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mmiikkee12i like ubuntu already - didn't have to reboot after updates ;)12:00
pjottfunkyHat, I have: "Systemverkty" (English: Systemtools)12:00
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bluefoxicygnomefreak:  one's a laser printer12:00
gnomefreakmmiikkee12,  im not sure any linux has to reboot after updates unless its kernel or something like that12:00
bluefoxicythe one I need12:00
mmiikkee12 btrue, but this is the first distro i've ever actually updated...12:01
GedionsenCan't find a way to add a custom app to a shortcut...12:01
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Siph0ndo ppl here use subversion? and if so what version?12:01
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/Diagram2.png12:01
gnomefreakok bluefoxicy lets try this in a network there is a base computer and than you have extra computers. the one with the printer is that a base pc or an extra?12:02
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bluefoxicygnomefreak:  check the idagram12:02
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wolverianhmm, can't find relevant help in the eclipse docs12:02
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bluefoxicy(that funky lightening thing is a serial link, since it's USB)12:02
bluebloodHow do I search for dirs?12:02
wolverianI also can't just uninstall gcj, since eclipse-base depends on it12:02
dooglusblueblood: "locate"12:02
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wolverianthat seems to indicate that ubuntu _really_ wants me to use gcj instead of sun's vm :)12:03
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dooglusblueblood: or "find / -type d -name dirname"12:03
bluefoxicyblueblood: places->search for files12:03
GedionsenCan't find a way to add a custom app to a shortcut... Does anyone know?12:03
pjottfunkyHat, Found it ;)12:03
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bluefoxicygnomefreak:  you got it now?12:03
blueblooddooglus, bluefoxicy, thanks12:03
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_jasonGedionsen, you want to add a launcher to a custom app?12:04
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gnomefreakbluefoxicy, your modem has to be attached to one of the pcs or a 3rd pc your diagram soesnt show that12:04
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bluefoxicygnomefreak:  my cable modem is attached to a router.12:04
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bluefoxicygnomefreak:  start at the cloud that says "internet" and move down slowly.12:04
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BROKEN_LADDERahh man!  i just edited clearlooks to make it flat and have zero saturation in its greys, and it looks sweeeet.12:05
Gedionsen_jason Already have that, but i don't know how to assign a shortcut like Ctrl+Alt+?12:05
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  here's a hint:  the linksys wrt54g is physically stationed inside my house.12:05
gnomefreakbluefoxicy, i understand that but you have a ehternet cord from pc-router and modem to router right?12:05
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  yes.  That's what a router is for.12:05
gnomefreakyes now what port is the modem plugged in?12:06
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bluefoxicygnomefreak:  Port 1 on the router.  Icegate is plugged into port 2 on the router; icebox is plugged into port 3.12:06
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Siph0ncan neone tell me if there is a help file for what each file color means? like when i type ls and some are light blue and other files or dark blue12:06
_jasonubotu, tell Gedionsen about shortcut12:06
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gnomefreakok bluefoxicy  either way try the routers ip it should work12:07
cafuego_Siph0n: That's user-configurable, so no real meaning.12:07
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  explain exactly why the router's ip should work?  The router isn't broadcasting printing packets, and it knows not of the two printers on Icegate.12:07
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  at the same time, why exactly would the remote ubuntu machine be sharing the printer without me having configured it to do so12:07
BurgerMannMy friend wanted to disable the GUI and was told that sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*gdm would do the trick. However the command he was told to enable doesn't work. What do he do?12:08
thrushSiph0n: type file filename that should give u a pretty good idea12:08
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Siph0noh k... neway to see the defaults? cause some of my files are a light blue, and i think its suppose to be a command, but when i type it it says not command12:08
Siph0nthanx :)12:08
calamariI'm not sure what happened (perhaps the Breezy upgrade?) but I can no longer run Java JAR's by double-clicking them.  To try to fix it I wrote a shell script javajar which works fine from the command line, but it doesn't seem to help when running from gnome12:08
cafuego_Siph0n: normally, blue would be a directory, yellow an executable file/script12:08
gnomefreakthe router sees the pc your pc will send info through router to printer12:08
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bluefoxicygnomefreak:  the router is not hosting a print server.12:08
mmiikkee12BurgerMann: apt-get remove gdm?12:09
gnomefreakthe router is hosting the pc with the printers no?12:09
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  the remote computer (icegate) is also not broadcasting over the network anything about the printer.12:09
cafuego_Siph0n: run 'dircolors' for a list of what's currently set.12:09
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Siph0nk, i did file filename for a light green file and it said shell script executable12:09
Siph0nthanx! :)12:09
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  the pc sees the printer, and uses it; it does not advertise to the network that there is a printer there, thus across the network nothing is saying that there's a printer.12:09
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  ok let's try talking about windows.12:10
gnomefreakblue the pc your on now with-out the printer will send infor to printer using the ip address12:10
cafuego_purple would appear to me media (sound,image,video)12:10
BurgerMannmmiikkee12: I'll tell him. Thanx12:10
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  in windows, you right click a printer, and hit, "Share"12:10
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  Windows begins broadcasting packets that say, "I am sharing a printer.  It is called CLP-4000."12:10
gnomefreakbluefoxicy,  i am sharing a printer right now threw a router12:10
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  Now, on a remote PC, you say, "Look at the network.  List the printers available."12:11
cafuego_ Siph0n: The format is *.EXT=ANSICOLORCODE;12:11
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  and that PC says, "I found a CLP-4000"12:11
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sivanghi all12:11
mmiikkee12wtf, synaptic doesn't have supertux?12:12
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  Now step back, the remote host (Icegate) is running Linux instead of Windows.  Ubuntu Linux is not broadcasting samba packets.  It's not advertising that there's a printer connected to it.12:12
cafuego_!info supertux12:12
ubotusupertux: (Classic 2D jump 'n run sidescroller with Tux), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.1.2-4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 234 kB, Installed size: 664 kB12:12
Orbordemmiikkee12: Yes it does. I'm *playing* it.12:12
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  so unless my computer has hacked into it and taken remote control, there's no way it knows there's a printer there.12:12
cafuego_mmiikkee12: universe12:12
Siph0nthanx cafuego and thrush, thats exactly what i needed to know :)12:12
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bluefoxicygnomefreak:  I need to find the Linux equivalent of right-clicking the printer and telling the machine to share it.12:12
mmiikkee12it's not in my synaptic, even in universe12:12
Gedionsen_jason ty, your the bomb...12:13
gnomefreakbluefoxicy, look you may have to go through the list and find the printer to set it up in cups than use ip address of router for network if you think that im wrong try looing at your help icon and see what that says or try ubuntu.wiki.org12:13
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  ok, but the printer is not there in cups.12:13
bluefoxicycafuego_:  when you plug a printer in, does it automatically broadcast to the network that you have it?12:13
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_jasonGedionsen, yw12:13
gnomefreakbluefoxicy, windows and linux share nothing i mean nothing (as in same) you can share your windows printer but i dont think cups will help there i wouldnt know i hate windows12:13
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cafuego_bluefoxicy: Uh, if you are it on MacOSX, sure.12:14
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  see, that's the thing.  I have a printer installed through cups, but cups isn't sharing it.12:14
bluefoxicycafuego_:  UBUNTU.12:14
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cafuego_bluefoxicy: dude12:14
mmiikkee12apt-get worked12:14
pundaihey i got this today: W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>12:14
pundaiwith synaptic12:14
cafuego_out-of-the-blue question == out-of-the-blue answer ;-)12:14
gnomefreakbluefoxicy, if your printer is not listed in cups that is a sign that there isnt drivers for it12:14
Klownerso I went through some local LUG posts, so far I've seen.. "Unbuntu", "Umbunto, and "Unbunto"12:14
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ubotuIf you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.12:15
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mmiikkee12pundai: try it again12:15
pundaimmiikkee12, uh why...12:15
bluefoxicy"In Breezy it is nontrivial to make a locally installed printer accessible to other computers in the network. This should be simplified , and there should be a GUI for configuring it.12:15
sivanganybody have an idea how to set up ATI X300 On breezy?12:15
pundaiwhy did it happen12:15
bluefoxicyTHANKS GUYS.12:15
gnomefreakif your printer is already hooked to ubuntu linux on other pc your printer WILL be in cuos list12:15
cafuego_bluefoxicy: Calm down.12:15
mmiikkee12oh, do that ^12:15
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  on my pc?  No, it's not.12:15
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bluefoxicygnomefreak:  it's in the list on the other one.12:16
pundaimmiikkee12, cafuego_ why did the error happen12:16
cafuego_cafuego_: I am _not_ just online here helping you, I am also dealing with paying clients in real life.12:16
gnomefreakit should be in the list on this one too12:16
cafuego_pundai: us.archive is a bad, bad machine.12:16
pundaii see cafuego_ talks to himself12:16
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  exactly why should it eb on the list on this one?  If I plug directly into the cable modem, will the whole world be able to print to my printer automatically?12:16
pundaicafuego_, interesting..12:16
gnomefreakunless ofcourse the other pc isnt runnning debian12:16
mmiikkee12who knows...12:16
bluefoxicythe pc is running ubuntu12:16
gnomefreakanyone with your routers ip address can12:16
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Stormx2gimme something usefull to do towards the ubuntu project12:17
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Orbordebluefoxicy: Get it working before worrying about security12:17
crimsunStormx2: there're hosts of ways to get involved12:18
gnomefreakunless your fire wall blocks me i can set this computer to print on ur printer12:18
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mmiikkee12Stormx2: make an Ubuntu Blue theme - i hate brown12:18
thrushStormx2: if u go to school sneak into the computer room and install ubuntu on all the machines12:18
mmiikkee12that too ;)12:18
cafuego_bluefoxicy: You can at any time edit /etc/cups/* and edit the config files, so sharing works.12:18
WXanyone here want to help me figure out if my PSU isn't providing high enough quality voltages?12:18
WX+12V:     +12.46 V12:18
WX+3.3V:     +3.12 V12:18
Stormx2thrush: You think I havn't done that?12:18
WX+5V:       +4.85 V12:18
WX-12V:     -14.91 V12:18
cafuego_WX: Stop pasting!!!!!!12:18
WXare those voltage readings bad?12:19
KlownerWX: is it being unstable?12:19
Stormx2thrush: I net sent, they banned my windows account. I just booted up ubuntu and used that12:19
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WXcafuego_, sorry only had 4 lines to paste12:19
cafuego_WX: There is _no_ pasting here.12:19
gnomefreakWX, use pastebin12:19
WXKlowner, yeah it crashes quite often12:19
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cafuego_Not even "only 4"12:19
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WXwow let's all be rule nazis12:19
ompaul!tell WX about paste12:19
WXu've spent more lines correcting me12:19
cafuego_WX: Wow, let all 500 users paste "only 4" lines.12:19
mmiikkee12WX: no rule for you!12:20
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gnomefreakompaul,  why bother he cant read the topic?12:20
cafuego_Why do YOU need to special and an exception?12:20
bhearsumhow do i get the source code of a package?12:20
Stormx2Ubuntu blue theme has been done (ubuntuforums.org), and i've already had to tell my school's admins i have root.12:20
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bluefoxicyhttp://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/Screenshot-Printers_01.png http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/Screenshot-Printers_02.png http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/Screenshot-Printers_03.png http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/Screenshot-Printers_04.png12:20
crimsunbhearsum: make sure you have the deb-src line(s) uncommented, then apt-get source package12:20
bhearsumcrimsun: thats what i thought...i'm getting errors though. Could not open file firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu20.dsc - open (13 Permission denied)12:20
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  Note that the 3745 is shown for CUPS and for the HP driver finding it, so those two entries are the local printer.12:20
WXcafuego_, quit whining... why would everyone paste a few lines at the same time?12:20
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ompaulbluefoxicy,  tinyurl.com is useful 26 character url for that12:20
bhearsumi tried browsing the repo, too, but i couldn't find it12:20
cafuego_WX: That isn't the point.12:21
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gnomefreakompaul,  that was more than one :(12:21
Stormx2what else... hmm12:21
cafuego_WX: One 1 person is allowed, there's no reason to tell others they can't. Ergo, no pasting. End of story.12:21
bendbI am running Hoary, and can't use lpr from the command line:12:21
markybobthis couldnt be more off topic if i tried, but which actor does this guy look like?  i cant remember the name and it's driving me nuts.  http://www.markybob.com/camelot.jpg12:21
ompaulgnomefreak, so three entries :)12:21
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  look at the pictures.  That's the entire process of pointing at my router.  Do you see something here?  (Hint:  There's 2 printers on the remote computer and one on the local)12:21
crimsunbluefoxicy: hmm? It's right here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/12:21
bendbblout@chipmunk:~ $ lpr12:21
bendblpr: error - scheduler not responding!12:21
crimsunbluefoxicy: sorry12:21
gnomefreakthe second url is that one the pc with the printer or not?12:22
crimsunbhearsum: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/12:22
cafuego_WX: if you disagree, take it up with an op.12:22
WXok let me talk to chanserv12:22
WXhe's prolly as helpful as you12:22
bhearsumcrimsun: oh, the source is the .orig + the diff, right?12:22
crimsunbhearsum: yes12:22
bhearsumduh, heh12:22
bhearsumthanks bud12:22
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  the second one is my machine, it detected my local printer twice12:22
cafuego_WX: Where exactly did I agree to helping you?12:22
Stormx2cafuego_, WX: shut up >.>12:22
WXthanks Storm12:22
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bluefoxicygnomefreak:  both entries are my local 3745 printer.12:23
cafuego_(apart from informing you of channel policy, thus probably preventing you from being kicked off?)12:23
bendbI have cups configured, via 'sudo gnome-cups-manager', and the test page prints fine.12:23
crimsunWX: to put the issue to rest, pasting more than 3 lines unless excepted by a specific request from an op is the guideline here12:23
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ubotufrom memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text12:23
darrochfamilyI just installed thunderbird with apt-get and I got a funny error message saying that I hadn't specified a maxdepth option.  can anyone tell me what it meand? I have pasted it in flood12:23
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Stormx2WX: I know it seems silly, but if we allow exceptions lines can get big ;-)12:24
gnomefreakthis last url is showing the ml-2550 is this not the laser printer and why is it you dont have it set to network?12:24
WXokay storm12:24
cafuego_darrochfamily: That's a command in the post-install script messing up; did the install finish OK?12:24
WXi ahve an idea12:24
Stormx2WX: Listening =)12:24
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bluefoxicygnomefreak: ?12:24
jepcubedmarkybob: thanks now that is going to bother me all night :)12:24
darrochfamilycafuego_ , I think so12:25
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  when i hit next from 03, it went there.12:25
gnomefreakthose screenshots are from the pc without the printer hooked to it?12:25
cafuego_darrochfamily: Just ignore it then :-)12:25
Stormx2I was going to get involved with the Ubuntu-IE team, but they are all communists...12:25
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  yeah.12:25
WXVCore:     +1.32 V  |   +12V:     +12.46 V   |   +3.3V:     +3.12 V    |   +5V:       +4.85 V   |   -12V:     -14.91 V         <--- does this reading look bad?12:25
markybobjepcubed, you know who i'm thinking of, right?  i cant even remember what movies his been in, but i know i've seen him12:25
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darrochfamilycafuego_ , Iok thanks12:25
Stormx2WX: No idea ;-)12:25
WXStormx2, lol12:25
jepcubedmarkybob: yes, it is killing me now ...12:25
gnomefreakok the pc without the printers should be set to network not local12:25
Stormx2I'ma go see how the ubuntu-ie team is going12:25
Stormx2I still have op permissions on their channel...12:26
gnomefreakthe pc with the printers should be set to local12:26
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cafuego_Stormx2: They're undoubtedly in teh pub.12:26
TerminusWX, +3.3V seems a bit too low for my tastes and -12V seems to be too big. that's just me.  :)12:26
vincent_does linux ubuntu have some sort of ascii-table in it?12:26
gnomefreakbluefoxicy, you say it went through but yet you still cant print12:26
cafuego_vincent_: man ascii12:26
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  it blindly says whatever.  I can put the URI as if I wanta nd it works.12:26
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r0bbyhow do I redownload the keyrings?12:27
ompaulcafuego_, pub that something to do with ftp?12:27
defendguinis there any way to more tightly integrate gmail into my desktop.  when i click on an email link in a webbrowser i dont want evolution to come up i want open a window for gmail so i can compose it there??12:27
gnomefreakbluefoxicy, depends on what works means cause it works means to me is that u can print12:27
WXTerminus, lol that's what i was thinking12:27
cafuego_ompaul: only insofar as you can normally type 'mget beer'12:28
Grug2hey guys, if I have a .bin install file, how do I actually install from it?12:28
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  your printer is connected to your network via an ethernet connection isn't it12:28
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bluefoxicyi.e. hp jetdirect12:28
r0bbyGPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release: Couldn't access keyring: No such file or director12:28
gnomefreaka router12:28
cafuego_Grug2: Depends on what it is.12:28
oskudeGrug2, form where, where there no instructions ?12:28
Grug2its the sun java sdk12:28
bendbWhere would be a good place to ask about getting lpr to work on my Hoary system that is running cups?12:28
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cafuego_Grug2: it varies from jjst running it to converting it to removing it and using  aproperly packaged one instead.12:28
TerminusWX, maybe it's time to change the PSU? i remember frying a mobo because we ignored the voltage readouts. =D12:28
bluefoxicysee my printer isn't a print server, it's a printer.  It doesn't have its own ethernet interface, or its own IP.12:28
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gnomefreakpc with printer and router than my pc without either just an ethernet connection to router12:28
cafuego_Grug2: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java12:28
Grug2but its just a bin file... under windows, i just click and it works12:28
oskudeyeah, on windows i just click :)12:29
Grug2well at least it works under windows easily :)12:29
bluefoxicythis is pissing me off12:29
gnomefreakbluefoxicy, look im telling you how to make it print either do it the way i suggest or ask someone else cause right now mine works great and im on a different floor as my printer12:29
dnBcan anyone help me out? i did a cd install of edubuntu, everything went well except 2% of packages couldnt be read from disk, im now @ command line only, so i tried to use apt-get install edubuntu-desktop (as the package is missing) however it prompts me to insert the cdrom (which cant be read) can anyone help me to get it to use a diff source? (i have a net connection working)12:29
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gnomefreakand the printer is only an epson c6412:29
cafuego_Grug2: You cna convert it to a .deb for ubuntu using the make-jpkg command (instructions via that wiki page). - OR you cna just use the blackdown prebuilt java 1.4.2, which is in the 'universe' repository.12:30
kvidellAre ShipIT cds coming in from The Netherlands?12:30
kvidellI have a mysterious box waiting for me at home from the Netherlands.12:30
mmiikkee12oh btw... is there still that problem where you run the risk of trashing an ntfs partition if you access it from linux?12:30
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  are you using ipp printing?12:30
cafuego_kvidell: Apparently12:30
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  or SMB?12:30
kvidellhm, okay.12:30
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gnomefreakhold on let me look\12:30
cafuego_the dutch guys have all received theirs already12:30
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SourceYakoyup :)12:30
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thrushdnB: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list comment out # the cdrom line at top12:30
SourceYakogot a small problem here12:30
SourceYakoanyone willing to help?12:30
dnBthrush, thanks a lot <312:31
kvidellMy mom thought it was a bomb or something (We're from The Netherlands and have the same last name as the kid being accused with some large kidnapping scandal out there right now, so she thinks we're going to be targeted *smacks his forehead*)12:31
thrushdnB: then sudo apt-get update12:31
Grug2ok thanks - i figured it out... had to set execute permissions on the bin file12:31
cafuego_kvidell: Make sure to sprinkle some flour on the cds and yell ANTHRAX!!!12:31
SourceYakoI mounted 3 NTFS filesystems to /media/stuff12:31
kvidellShe'd fall over.12:31
SourceYakobut on opening the folders, they don't read12:31
dabaRstuff is a bad word:)12:31
dabaRSourceYako: permission not granted?12:31
mmiikkee12can you still access them from windows...?12:32
SourceYakoit? 50012:32
gnomefreaktry sudo12:32
SourceYakobut I can't change it12:32
SourceYakoyup I can12:32
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crimsunyou need to mount them with umask=02212:32
SourceYakosudo dir /media/stuff works12:32
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mmiikkee12so would it be safe to access my win2k partition from here?12:32
SourceYakobut I want to access them from the normal account to12:32
dabaRSourceYako: do what crimsun told you:)12:32
Nick_HillThe channel's topic is really mangled for me. I think an international character set has been used. Can the topic be written in UTF-8, C or ISO8859-1?12:32
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dabaRAdd that to the fstab file.12:32
SourceYakooh k12:32
dabaROr jkust mount like that.12:32
SourceYakothanks crimsun and dabaR12:33
gnomefreakmmiikkee12,  to me nothing about windows is "safe"12:33
markybobjepcubed still around?12:33
varsendaggerhey i just updated to breezy how do i install xubuntu?12:33
Grug2win xp has been very safe for me12:33
SourceYakobtw crimsun12:33
mmiikkee12i mean accessing ntfs from linux12:33
dabaRGrug2: are you still here with taht xp talk?12:33
gnomefreakvarsendagger, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop12:33
SourceYakodoes that work with the breezy badger distro too?12:33
mmiikkee12i only have windows for my mom...12:33
Grug2? i am installing java now12:33
dabaRSourceYako: it is distro independent.12:33
SourceYakocuz fstab seems different to me from hoary12:33
markybobjepcubed, paul giamatti.  from sideways.  :)12:33
Nick_HillMy 78 y/o dad uses Debian12:34
varsendaggernow i've allready installed xfce4 will that cause any problems?12:34
SourceYakoI'll try it though12:34
crimsunvarsendagger: nope.12:34
gnomefreakvarsendagger, no12:34
varsendaggerdo you promis?12:34
mmiikkee12no :P12:34
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gnomefreakvar you can try this12:34
Orbordemmiikkee12: I know read is safe...not sure if they ever got writing to NTFS to a completely perfect state.12:34
gnomefreaksudo apt-get remove xfce12:34
gnomefreakor add purge in there if you like12:34
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Orbordemmiikkee12: That would do.12:35
gnomefreakthan sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop12:35
gnomefreakthat is if you feel safer that way varsendagger12:35
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BROKEN_LADDERhow do i make beagle auto start?12:36
varsendaggerdabaR, what is the FS licence, is that th one in sources.list or the one for this chat room12:36
BROKEN_LADDERthe deamen12:36
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varsendaggerneaver mind i wasn't serious any way12:36
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twisted_mapleanyone know why I get "Playback device not found" when trying to play midi?12:37
Nick_HillWho sets the channel topic? Does it look messed up for anyone else?12:37
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crimsunNick_Hill: your irc client doesn't properly support UTF-8 then12:37
Quest-MasterNick_Hill:  this part?12:37
gnomefreakit was set by tritium and no it looks fine12:38
Orbordetwisted_maple: AFAIK it's because MIDI is not set up by default on Ubuntu. Go searching the wiki/forums.12:38
Nick_HillQuest-Master, Yes12:38
thrushtwisted_maple: ah midi.. good luck man12:38
Quest-MasterNick_Hill: Yeah, I get it too ;x12:38
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Grug2anybody know if linux/ubuntu supports Windows .fon fonts (not ttf but raster?)12:38
Nick_HillSo it probably isn't in UTF 8?12:38
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twisted_mapleOrborde -- got all the sound card set.  Timidity works find... trying to get the EMU-8000 to kick in.  Mods are all loaded.  Devices (sequencer) is created.12:38
Quest-MasterNick_Hill: What client are you using?12:38
dabaRvarsendagger: free software klicences, and the other open source licences. They all disclaim all warranty, you can read the disclaimer from GPL for excample.12:38
dooglusBROKEN_LADDER: I used to get it to start from my ~/.gnomerc until I realised how much it affected system performance and removed it12:38
dtsi have ubuntu on my laptop. What's the best way to move the entire system to my new laptop?12:38
Nick_HillQuest-Master, X-chat12:38
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Quest-MasterNick_Hill: Dunno.. I'm using HydraIRC on Windows12:38
Nick_HillSo it is almost certainly not in UTF-812:39
Orbordetwisted_maple: Okay, I have no idea, then. Sorry. :)12:39
oskudedoes anyone know of a program that show the disk usage, like "top" shows cpu usage ? (i can imagine that this aint so easy)12:39
twisted_mapleoskude: df12:39
gnomefreakisnt utf-8 unix only?12:39
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BROKEN_LADDERdooglus beagled hinders system performance?12:40
Orbordegnomefreak: Doubt it12:40
oskudetwisted_maple, you dont seem to know what "top" makes, but thanks12:40
funkyHatgnomefreak, no12:40
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gnomefreakoh ok ty12:40
funkyHatgnomefreak, don't ask me how to get it working on windows though ;)12:40
BROKEN_LADDERwhen is linux going to break into the 1990's with pervasive indexed file architecture, so that searches are instant?12:40
mmiikkee12# not sure what this does, but it looks important: - comment right before proc in my fstab :)12:41
gnomefreakthere is a free download of xchat for windows works pretty much the same12:41
oskudeBROKEN_LADDER, use "locate"12:41
gnomefreakyes i said free :)12:41
BROKEN_LADDERoskude lol12:41
BROKEN_LADDERoskude locate is an archaic program.12:41
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Grug2Can gnome use raster fonts from windows (.fon) ?12:41
BROKEN_LADDERoskude it requires a database to be occasionally updated.12:41
gnomefreakmy g/f is scared of linux so i found it for winblows12:41
BROKEN_LADDERGrug2 why would you want to do that?12:41
BROKEN_LADDERGrug2 just out of curiosity..12:41
dooglusBROKEN_LADDER: every time you create, edit or delete a file, the beagle daemon updates its database to make a note of the change.12:42
Orbordegnomefreak: Make her use Linux.12:42
BROKEN_LADDERgnomefreak lol.  mine is too.12:42
Grug2cause the fonts from linux are all fuzzy or distorted or something...12:42
BROKEN_LADDEROrborde dude..be realistic.  we don't all have nerdy girlfriends.12:42
Grug2i'd like to use the MS Sans Serif font12:42
Grug2if possible12:42
BROKEN_LADDERmy girlfriend is a literature major.  she's computer illiterate12:42
OrbordeBROKEN_LADDER: What does she do with her computer?12:42
gnomefreakfonts for linux are fine why not try to set your resolotion different12:42
Grug2but it is raster, not ttf12:42
dooglusBROKEN_LADDER: I deleted a copy of the kernel source tree once, and after about 2 hours of frantically trying to catch up with the thousands of deletes, beagled crashed my PC12:42
BROKEN_LADDERGrug2 then use the ms sans serif true type font.12:42
Grug2its not ttf though...12:42
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Grug2its a raster font12:42
BROKEN_LADDERGrug2 look for .ttf files in windows and copy them.  there's a fonts directory.12:42
axelhello all12:42
bob832is there a way to display an address bar in nautilus?12:42
BROKEN_LADDERGrug2 it's also available as a .ttf12:43
Grug2ok - i'll try it... you know where the fonts directory is?12:43
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BROKEN_LADDERGrug2 i once copied all those windows fonts.12:43
BROKEN_LADDERGrug2 search for it.  it's easy to find.12:43
OrbordeBROKEN_LADDER: Computer illiterate people are prime candidates for Linux, because they don't do anything with their computers :)12:43
Grug2thanks ladder12:43
BROKEN_LADDERGrug2 windows seems to make it hard to copy though.  i had to make a zip of it and copy that.12:43
gnomefreakif i wanted windows font i wouldnt have come to this side of the os elevater12:43
BROKEN_LADDEROrborde lol12:43
BROKEN_LADDERgnomefreak windows has some great fonts dude.12:43
mmiikkee12what are the correct dump/pass options in fstab for ntfs?12:43
axelHelp, anyone knows how i can overcome a "cannot execute binary file error (im trying ipodlinux installation)12:43
BROKEN_LADDERgnomefreak the freesans font, for instance, is atrocious12:43
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Grug2linux fonts look great when printing, but horrible (to me ) on the screen12:44
Nick_HillOrborde, It is probably not a good idea to *make* someone use GNU/Linux. Much better to tell them about it, lay out the ethical arguments then let them make their own decision. Pushing someone to use a different OS always results in rebellion in my experience.12:44
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mmiikkee12everyone use dos!!!12:44
lurah|offnite --->12:44
axelHelp, anyone knows how i can overcome a "cannot execute binary file" error (im trying ipodlinux installation)12:44
BROKEN_LADDERcan a linux file system automatically save dynamic file attributes and make an index that a program can use, if it understands that file system?  like in beos..searches were faster even than mac osx spotlight.  because the fs wase indexed like database, and the search utility knew how to interface with it..12:45
oskudeaxel, that would be like "why can i open the door". be more precise !12:45
gnomefreakBROKEN_LADDER, but i dont get if you know linux is not windows why not find a font that linux has to use that looks better ther eis a font package for the guy looking for it but i cant remember what its called i hate windows with a passion btw :)12:45
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OrbordeNick_Hill: The idea is to get people who won't know the difference to use it.12:45
mmiikkee12axel: try chmod 755 file12:45
OrbordeNick_Hill: (How condescending I am)12:45
BROKEN_LADDERgnomefreak i've never found comparable quality in free fonts.12:45
BROKEN_LADDERgnomefreak i hate windows too. with a passion.  even linux is frustrating for me, since i used to use beos.12:46
axelmmiikkee12, ivze already set all the permissions12:46
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gnomefreaki dont see much of a difference really in fonts12:46
mmiikkee12then i give up...12:46
mmiikkee12try redownloading it, maybe corrupt12:46
gnomefreakmmiikkee12,  you just installed linux dont give up already12:46
Nick_HillOrborde, If someone is starting out and has no basis for comparison, then it is a good idea to just introduce them to GNU/Linux. But a grounding in the principles I think is a good idea too.12:47
pztaki'm having a strange problem.. i'm using a dell d600 laptop with ubuntu and recently i started using an external monitor (dell 2005fpw) at a different resolution, so i changed the resolution in xorg.conf. now even when i set the right resolution back and disconnect the monitor gnome won't load in the correct laptop resolution (1400x1050).. any ideas?12:47
mmiikkee12on axel's problem i mean12:47
gnomefreakoh ok12:47
mmiikkee12i'm still tweaking my system, hang on12:47
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gnomefreaki wonder if bluefoxicy ever got the printer printing12:47
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gnomefreakmmiikkee12,  with linux you can be tweeking your system for 10 years12:48
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  installing samba does it.12:48
BROKEN_LADDERdo any of you guys use clearlooks?  you know you can make the progress bar not have that atrocious "candy bar" striped look?12:48
r0dhow do i change the default program run w/ various extensions? want to xmms to run .mp3 instead of totem12:48
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mmiikkee12anyone know how to turn off the beeping when firefox can't find something in a page?12:49
axeloskude: well basicaly im executing something called make_sw, which should allow me to make a new firmware with linux for the ipod from a kernel specially made for ipod12:49
Sionider0d, right-click -> properties -> open with12:49
gnomefreaksamba is one of many programs that willl do it12:49
r0dSionide, default12:49
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r0dnot needed to do that12:49
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Sionideyeah you are12:49
sobersabrehi.. which is the latest openoffice2 ubuntu package ?12:50
axeloskude: except i get "./make_fw : cann ot execute binary file312:50
oskudeaxel, sry out of my knowledge :(12:50
r0dSionide, when i say default i mean double click and automatic it goes to xmms not totem12:50
Sionideyes! right-click a .mp3 file -> properties -> open with -> add -> xmms12:50
Nick_HillI'm off now, but if a moderator comes along, someone please have a word about the character set used for the topic. I am nto the only person to see this, and I don't think there are any glyphs there which need fall outside ascii.12:50
Sionidethe select xmms12:50
gnomefreaklatest openoffice2 package?12:50
oskudeaxel, do you have "file3" ?12:50
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sobersabregnomefreak yep.12:50
axeloskude; yeah a bit out of mine too it seems12:50
Avenhey, how do I set the total amount of MB space that can be used for a directory?12:50
r0dSionide, lol what a goof i am. i c what your saying12:50
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axeloskude; maybe not whats file312:50
oskudeaxel, or was file3 supposed to be file"12:51
Sionider0d, goof indeed - you said it! ;)12:51
gnomefreakwouldnt open office 2 be the latest package and just grab updates from ubuntu updater?12:51
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sobersabreAven it is usually done on a per partition/user/group basis. it is done by the means of quota.12:51
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Avensobersabre: ah ok12:51
Avenwell how do I set the quota?12:51
sobersabregnomefreak it is, but v.2.0 is out, and my current package is 1.9.129-0.1ubuntu12:51
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axeloskude, oh not i mistyped, its not file3 it was file"12:52
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Sionidesobersabre, ubuntu breezy has openoffice2.0 as default.12:52
Nick_HillI think the  characters in the topic should be |12:52
gnomefreaksobersabre, are you running breezy or hoary?12:52
axeloskude, end of brackets i ean12:52
oskudeaxel, can use use "./make_fw --help" ?12:52
BROKEN_LADDERr0d the file type settings in gnome are rather limited12:52
Stormx2Gimme something to do towards the ubuntu project...12:52
sobersabregnomefreak breezy.12:52
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gnomefreakoo2 is default12:52
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jrsimswhen Dapper Drake is released, will I have to re-install? Or will I be able to update my Breezy Badger using Synaptic or something?12:52
MrFartsis there anything like yum for ubuntu ?12:52
Stormx2jrsims: Upgrade.12:53
Hobbseejrsims: you can dist-upgrade, yes12:53
r0dSionide, hows your knowledge w/ kde? they have a program w/ the ability to change any program/extension configuaration. is their a program for gnome that does the same?12:53
Sionidejrsims, you'll be able to upgrade12:53
gnomefreakapt-get = yum but different12:53
r0dSionide, w/o right click prop:D12:53
MrFartsgnomefreak, as long as it has dependencies and can update from a repository, it's ok with me12:53
jrsimscool. :)12:53
Sionider0d, *shrug* kde is poop, use kubuntu if you wanna use kde.12:54
MrFartsgnomefreak, can it do those things ?12:54
blizzoOOo 1.9.129 ist default12:54
Nick_HillMrFarts, Yes. The debian package management system is probably what inspired YUM. But it is somewhat more sophisticated.12:54
gnomefreakmrfarts thats only 1/4 of what synaptic (apt-get) can do12:54
r0dSionide, lol, i dont use kde. just asking if there is a tool similar to what i said. been looking for some time now12:54
MrFartsgnomefreak, cool12:54
gnomefreakOO2 is default in breezy12:54
gnomefreakOO1.9 is default in hoary12:54
axeloskude: i tried "./make_fw --help", it says again "cannot execute binary file"12:54
jrsimsI for one, would love to see a "fubuntu" - fluxbox + ubuntu. ;)12:54
sobersabregnomefreak can you run dpkg -l on any of the oo2 packages ?12:54
Sionider0d, don't know in that case12:54
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Nick_HillMrFarts, The debian package management system is probably the most sophisticated package management system. THere are several GUI and command line front ends.12:54
MrFartswould you guys say that running ubuntu on a server is a reasonable idea ?12:54
sobersabrejrsims or opuntu ( openbox ubuntu )12:55
MrFartsor is it a bit too bleeding edge ?12:55
gnomefreaksobersabre, i dont see why you would need to that is for debian packages12:55
oskudeaxel, show me what "ls -lah make_fw" prints (1line please)12:55
crimsunMrFarts: sure. There is, after all, a server-oriented install.12:55
jrsimssobersabre: Hmm. Never used openbox!12:55
Nick_HillMrFarts, And Ubuntu is based on Debian, and is based on the Debian package management system.12:55
MrFartscrimsun, excellent12:55
MrFartsNick_Hill,  i ran debian pack in 1999 the last time12:55
MrFartsi quite liked it, but they are way too slow to update12:55
axeloskude: -rwxr-xr-x  1 axel axel 21K 2005-08-15 07:00 make_fw12:55
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MrFartsi was intrigued by the fact that ubuntu appears to to debian-based12:56
sobersabregnomefreak, what are you talking about ?12:56
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vincent_how do you make a picture with your webcam in linux ubuntu?12:56
Stormx2MrFarts: Well it is =)12:56
sobersabrejrsims , it is a fork of blackbox, rewritten from scratch.12:56
oskudeaxel, hmm, maybe its NO binary that you can execute12:56
Nick_HillMrFarts, For GUI, there is synaptic, kynaptic and command line curses aptitude and dselect, command line only: aptitude, dpkg, apt-get12:56
gnomefreaksober dpkg -i isnt needed for ubuntu packages only need if you are downloading and installing a package ubuntu doesnt have12:56
MrFartsNick_Hill, i prefer the commandline anyway12:57
Avenhm, how do I set a quota for a user?12:57
Nick_HillMrFarts, To istall a package, sudo aptitude install packagename12:57
MrFartsalthough the last version of dselect i used was something awful12:57
sobersabregnomefreak, I have asked you to run dpkg -l , not "i"12:57
dtsi have ubuntu on my laptop. What's the best way to move the entire system to my new laptop?12:57
MrFartshas it improved at all since then ?12:57
axeloskude:well, its supposed to, maybe its corrupt tho, im gonna try another nightly build version, brb12:57
gnomefreaksorry i thought that was i12:57
jrsimssobersabre: how does it compare to fluxbox?12:57
Stormx2dts: What do you mean?12:57
MrFartsAven, enable quotas in fstab, run quotaon12:57
blizzognomefreak: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/misc/12:57
sobersabrejrsims it doesn't ... openbox wins :)12:58
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MrFartsAven, and quotacheck12:58
blizzoopenoffice.org2-officebean (1.9.129-0.1ubuntu4)12:58
Stormx2Yay for gnome ;-)12:58
MrFartsAven, i think there is a HOWOT somewhere12:58
Avenwhat's fstab? :\12:58
Nick_HillMrFarts, Or try the curses dselect or aptitude.12:58
dtsStormx2: well I have laptop A which has ubuntu installed on it and I want to move the system to Laptop B12:58
thrushdts: do u need the entire thing? id just move my home directory contents maybe12:58
MrFartsAven, /etc/fstab12:58
Hobbsee!tell Aven about fstab12:58
Stormx2dts: Copy over? Can't you just fresh install?12:58
MrFartsNick_Hill, how many CDs is ubuntu btw ?12:59
dtscan i have a list of all the programs that are installed or something from apt and then automatically install them on the new system12:59
MrFartsNick_Hill, the website seems to imply thtat there is only one install CD12:59
MrFartsNick_Hill, seems a bit smaall12:59
Nick_HillMrFarts, The default install fits on one12:59
dtsbecause i don't want to reinstall everything i installed manually12:59
crimsunMrFarts: 112:59
Stormx2MrFarts: One.12:59
gnomefreakblizzo: i have no questions of what packages are where i have this set to my liking and i have OO2 like most all other breezy users12:59
jrsimssobersabre: one thing I like about fluxbox is that it's really lightweight (it is kind of a pain to jimmy with config files to customize it though). Is openbox just about as lightweight?12:59
MrFartsNick_Hill, the rest you have to get online ?12:59
Nick_HillMrFarts, However, there is a universe repository you can call on with 15000? packages12:59
Stormx2MrFarts: No.12:59
Stormx2MrFarts: It works fine without downloading anything else12:59
crimsunthe CD contains everything you need.12:59
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Stormx2MrFarts: But of course, you'll want to put more stuff on eventually ;-) Thats where apt-get or synaptic come in01:00
MrFartscrimsun, i guess i'm just used to seeing redhat in all its 7 CD glory :)01:00
Nick_HillMrFarts, If you need a large selection of packages offline, go for Debian sarge on 2 DVDs.01:00
crimsununiverse+multiverse contain about 17000 additional packages.01:00
gnomefreak<<<has uni and multi uni and backports :)01:00
MrFartsNick_Hill, actually i don't need that much stuff, especially on a server01:00
sobersabrejrsims you can always apt-get install/apt-get remove any package... that's what's so good about debian ( ubuntu variant )01:00
MrFartsNick_Hill, basically, i need gcc, some servers01:00
MrFartsNick_Hill, is that stuff included ?/01:00
Stormx2MrFarts: if you enter the server option on the install cd, you get what you need, methinks01:00
uboturepositories is, like, How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list01:01
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Stormx2MrFarts: gcc is available in the repos, yeah01:01
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Avenhttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab <-- I save the file as winmac_fstab ?01:01
MrFartsStormx2, it's not installed by default ?!01:01
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Stormx2MrFarts: I... don't think so. Not sure, mind.01:01
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dtsso no hints on how to keep the programs that are on my system installed01:01
MrFartsthanks, i'll check it out01:02
MrFartsit's only two cds to download i guess :)01:02
MrFartsi'll try the live cd thing first01:02
Stormx2MrFarts: But if you are running a server you'll have internet and hence access to download it ;-)01:02
Grugwow - just installed MS verdana fonts and all the sudden my screen looks GREAT01:02
Nick_HillMrFarts, The package management system is so good, you shouldn't worry about it. Just uncomment multiverse from /etc/apt/sources.list then...01:02
Stormx2Grug: BLASPHAMY!01:02
Grugbut i love ubuntu now01:02
gnomefreakonly thing i wanna know is a list of GNU editoers for ubuntu other than emacs and vi and vi take offs01:02
Nick_HillMrFarts, sudo aptitude update01:02
Nick_HillMrFarts, sudo aptitude install packagename01:02
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axeloskude: dude im with stupid, i had the ppc not i386 by mistake01:03
Nick_HillMrFarts, It will pull in dependencies like libc-dev make etc etc01:03
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oskudeaxel, :)01:03
MrFartsNick_Hill, excellent01:03
Gruganybody know when the next release of ubuntu is?01:03
Stormx2MrFarts: Or simply "sudo apt-get install <packagename>" both work, you're more likely to see instructions with apt-get01:03
eternale1hey guys long time no talk which is actually a good think on a support channel :D01:03
NoobieDoobieDoUbuntu seems a little slugish, how can I improve performance ?01:03
Nick_HillMrFarts, sudo aptitude install gcc01:03
jake37anyone having probs with amarok player? I have added recommended engines (arts and xine) and it will simply cycle thru playlist and not play anything...01:03
Stormx2eternale1: Yeah ;-)01:03
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MrFartsi have to take off01:04
MrFartsthanks for the info01:04
dabaRsee ya01:04
eternale1anyway i've ran into a problem looking into the upgrading01:04
Stormx2MrFarts: Good luck =)01:04
sobersabreNoobieDoobieDo whaat do you mean "sluggish" ?01:04
dabaRchange you rnick next time...01:04
Nick_HillOK, Np. I'm off too01:04
eternale1i tried that first part with removal of firefox packages01:04
eternale1and now it won't let me install the mozilla-firefox one , it fails to fetch01:04
eternale1the package01:04
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NoobieDoobieDosobersabre, i mean graphicly, like "screen tearing", screen delay, and so on.01:04
Avenfor fstab, I get: No usable windows/mac partitions found01:04
eternale1then i try apt-get update and that fails01:04
NoobieDoobieDosobersabre, win2k by comparison, runs 'smoother'01:04
jake37dabaR > any experience with amaroK player?01:05
Stormx2!tell Aven about windowsdrives01:05
krogoth64how hard would it be to get to the xdm login screen on ubuntu from another computer?01:05
eternale1with some 404 errors01:05
gnomefreaksomeone just told me anjuta is GNU :) yayyyyyyyy01:05
dabaRjake37: /j #kubuntu01:05
dooglusNoobieDoobieDo: it will look smoother if you turn on x.org's backing store01:05
dabaRjake37: search the forums.01:05
jrsimsis there a clean way to run both OpenBox and Gnome with ubuntu?01:05
Stormx2eternale1: You should inform whoever maintains the repos - that shouldn't happen01:05
NoobieDoobieDodooglus, ic. is that simple to do or no ?01:05
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jake37dabar...I am using ubuntu w/ kde files added by installs only...is amarok a kde only prog?01:05
dooglusNoobieDoobieDo: not too hard.  you need to add a line to /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:05
dooglusNoobieDoobieDo: only problem is I don't have my PC with me, so I can't see exactly what I added.01:06
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eternale1guess i won't be closing this firefox window ....01:06
oskudeaxel, do you still have the ppc file ?01:06
Stormx2eternale1: lol!01:06
dooglusNoobieDoobieDo: it's something like :   Option "BackingStore" "yes"    in the graphic card section of the xorg.conf01:06
nickruddooglus, that's called bait and switch, or something like that ;)01:06
oskudeaxel, i would be intereste what "file" says to that file01:06
dabaRjake37: no, look where UI told you, dont make me type. /j is for join channel in irc.01:06
NoobieDoobieDodooglus, thx01:06
Stormx2eternale1: Hmmm... Try "sudo apt-get update"01:06
dooglusnickrud: no, I'm trying to help, I just don't have all the info to hand01:06
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krogoth64can I log in to X remotely?01:07
dooglusNoobieDoobieDo: you could try that.  the worse that will happen is X will refuse to start, so you just take the line out again...01:07
jake37dabaR> k...have been searching forums already01:07
nickruddooglus, no, no, I think I can find it from that. Thanks, I'll look at it01:07
cfaany1 have a tablet01:07
eternale1did that with the same result01:07
Stormx2cfa: Yeah, I have to take 4 a day...01:07
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NoobieDoobieDodooglus, i think it will also help to set the color depth to 16 instead of 24, that was my primary concern...01:08
dooglusnickrud: what it does is it keeps a copy of the graphical content of every window in RAM, so when you move things around, the windows underneath can be refreshed directly from the RAM copy, instead of the programs that created the windows having to do the work of working out what to redraw01:08
Grugtell !themes01:08
Grugok i'm a n00b01:08
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Stormx2Grug: /msg ubotu themes01:08
Grugahh thanks01:08
dooglusNoobieDoobieDo: try the BackingStore thing - it made a huge difference for me.  Of course, it does use a little more RAM, so if you're short of RAM maybe it will make things worse.  All you can do is try it :)01:09
nickrudah. big memory, slow processor help. I might really want that.01:09
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NoobieDoobieDodooglus, in my xorg.conf there is no instance of 'backing store' but im asking google...01:09
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nickrudhttp://www.faqs.org/faqs/x-faq/speedups/ looks interesting01:09
Stormx2owwy i can barely type, me hands are so sore :-\01:09
dooglusNoobieDoobieDo: no, it's not there by default, but you can add it.  It's one word, I'm pretty sure01:09
cfaany1 have a tablet laptop01:10
Stormx2cfa: No, but whats the problem?01:10
cfai would like to get the pen to work01:10
RustyJugglerHow do I get the vnc server running, I have tried to use the guide for vnc4server, but it wont start01:10
Stormx2!tell cfa about laptop01:10
eternale1little more investigating into the 404 errors on the update .. they all seem to be in hoary-backports directory01:10
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dooglusNoobieDoobieDo: find the section called "device" where it sets up your graphics card, and add Option "backingstore" "on"01:11
woody_what is the default root password on a ubuntu install ?01:11
britishseapowerwhy wont ubuntu play mp3s ? (just installed it)01:11
BROKEN_LADDERthe lady on air america radio right now has a fucking east coast + british accent.  weird.01:11
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BROKEN_LADDERoops..pardon my language01:11
Orbordewoody_: There isn't one01:11
ubotump3 is, like, totally, to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:11
doogluswoody_: by default the root password is locked.  we use 'sudo' to run commands as root.01:11
kinkoblastWill it mess up my install (default from 5.10 Ubuntu CD plus configed NDISWrapper for my Wireless card) if I install xubuntu-desktop01:11
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NoobieDoobieDodooglus, ok...01:11
woody_dooglus thanks01:11
oskudewoody_, you can set one with "sudo passwd" (and sudo asks your password)01:12
kinkoblastwoody_: There isn't one, root is disabled. Use sudo.01:12
jb__hi all, i can't adjust volume level on new 5.10 install - any suggestions?01:12
ubotuwell, mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:12
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Stormx2britishseapower: I just said that >.>01:12
doogluswoody_: so you can "sudo apt-get install package" and such like.  it'll ask for a password.  it wants YOUR password, not root's01:12
doogluswoody_: it'll only ask once - then it'll remember the password for 15 minutes I think01:12
Stormx2yeah 1501:13
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Stormx2Ctrl + Alt + Backspace ;-)01:13
oskudebtw. are there benefits for root not having a password ?01:13
RustyJugglervncserver says that it started whatever is in /home/myusername/.vnc/xstartup, but I still don't find it with netstat -t -l01:13
kinkoblastdogglus: For in that terminal, anyway.01:13
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Stormx2oskude: Security, user friendly, it means you arn't likely to overwrite important stuff in nautilus, etc01:14
cfastormx2, thanx i have been there any other ideas01:14
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bob832hi. . .i successfully changed the volume control in the tray to control PCM however, my keyboard buttons do not change it - what would i have to change to correct this?01:14
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woody_RustyJuggler it started remember to do the .vncrc if you want gnome desktop01:14
Stormx2bob832: You don't want it controlling master?01:14
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britishseapowerwhat a palava01:14
rawtekanyone here know how to set up wpa support with wpa supplicant01:14
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mmiikkee12now to find a nice aqua background01:14
Stormx2britishseapower: Not really. You only need to execute one line01:15
oskudeStormx2, well you KNOW your password, so u use sudo. what i wanted to know is it harder to hack a root without password, or so...01:15
bob832Stormx2: no, i'm on a laptop and need the PCM to be controled01:15
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NoobieDoobieDo<--- using no good intel 810 graphics card01:15
cafuego_mmiikkee12: http://www.cafuego.net/Aqua%20Blue.jpg01:16
nickrudNoobieDoobieDo, be also, I've just set it01:16
cfai tried this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/FujitsuT4010D, but it cashed X, i have a T4020D01:16
mmiikkee12cafuego_: 404 error01:16
Stormx2oskude: Well really, its a user thing. You'll find a lot of new users just use their root account for general work, its a big security risk, as root should only be used for admin (so that ports don't get left open, etc)01:16
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NoobieDoobieDonickrud, there really is little difference to the eye between 16 and 24/32 bit color depth01:17
RustyJugglerwhat is .vncrc?01:17
NoobieDoobieDoanyways thanks again all01:17
nickrudI run at 24, I'll do gl when I have a card that's worth it01:17
Stormx2oskude: ubuntu is different on that, it has an all-in-one account, were anyone hacking in won't be able to issue sudo remotely (i beleive)01:17
NoobieDoobieDoBYE ALL !01:17
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Stormx2oskude: And like i said, it stops users renaming "var" to "SUPER HAPPY DIRECTORY"01:17
dooglusNoobieDoobieDo: drag a window around quickly and you'll notice that there's no "gap" left behind while the redraw tries to catch up01:17
kinkoblaststormx2: I think you can use sudo remotly... Maybe it's my apple i'm thiniking of, but i've done it.01:17
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oskudeStormx2, and renaming "var" with sudo wouldnt work ?01:18
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rawtekneed a little wpa support here01:18
dooglusoskude: the main advantage is that people can't guess your root password - because you don't have one01:18
kinkoblastoskude: It would, but it's more trouble than it's worth,01:18
cfarawtek me too01:18
dooglusoskude: now they will have to guess your user password AND your username - that makes it harder01:18
cfai have Atheros01:18
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Stormx2oskude: It would, but by the time you know how to sudo and rename and use terminal, you would have decided against it.01:18
britishseapowerwhy doesnt firefox remember my settings?01:19
cfarawtek what do u have01:19
nickrudcat /etc/groups | grep admin <--- my target01:19
oskudedooglus, ok, that sounds good01:19
rawtekcfa I tried to read the forums about wpa suipplicant but I don't get it01:19
Stormx2britishseapower: Why not?01:19
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britishseapoweri remove the bookmark bar exit and restart and it reappears01:19
eternale1ah there we go :D01:19
nickrudif I was interested, even01:20
dooglusoskude: of course, you're probably not running a ssh daemon anyway, so the point is moot - but if you do, you'll be a little safer01:20
marlunI'm confused how does relative paths work in linux, I'm working some with HTML and now I want to show a image, i do src="images/image.jpg" but the images does not show. The image is inside the images directory.01:20
britishseapoweri am liking gnome tis nice....wish i had a larger display though01:20
eternale1just needed a little freenode inspiration01:20
Stormx2marlun: "./images/image.jpg"01:20
sNoJaCkhas anyond heard of a problem with booting 2.6.12 kernels and above?  I cant get breezy working but hoary works fine.01:20
Stormx2marlun: using simply "image" is incorrect, even on a windows system.01:20
marlunStormx2, tried that too =/01:20
rawtekcfa it said something about a config file I have to change01:20
oskudedooglus, actually i use ssh very often with my desktop and notebook...01:20
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dooglusoskude: and the barrier that sudo puts in your way makes you notice that you're root, and may just stop you accidentally doing something stupid.  if you logged in as root you might forget you were root after a while01:20
Stormx2marlun: Check you've got the right address then01:20
marlunStormx2, yea well it doesn't work with ./ added either. =/01:20
Stormx2marlun: make sure its not .JPG or .jpeg01:20
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cfawell i am new to Debian, i always used RH or Centos or FreeBSD01:21
rawtekdid those work well with wifi01:21
marlunyes it was the same thing with the .css file before, but then i just moved it to the same directory as the html file.01:21
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Stormx2marlun: Make sure the html file is saved in the right place, etc01:21
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kinkoblastmarlun: Remember, ubuntu is case sensitive.01:21
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cfarawtek what chip set do u have01:21
rawtekcfa I have a belkin (Broadcom )01:22
cfai have Atheros01:22
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rawtekwhy did you leave BSD01:22
vincent_so if you drop a cat upside down it first dearches its back and then it arches his back with net result the paws are facing earth01:22
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oskudewell, i need root acces sometimes frequently so im lazy allways to use "sudo" do a made a password for it. and now i realized that "sudo su -" works too :)01:22
cfau have a card or builtin01:22
oskudedo a made =  so i made01:22
cfai didnt01:22
rawteki have the net right now01:22
marlunkinkoblast, wasn't that either.. =/ can it have to do with the chmod of the file?01:22
rawtekjust using wep vice wpa01:22
dooglusoskude: just "sudo -i" is best01:23
Stormx2oskude: ;-) Perfectly fine, but remember it breaks the GUI System rools01:23
marlunor maybe the images directory?01:23
dooglusoskude: then you get the root path, root home, etc.01:23
kinkoblastmarlun: Are you using apache? Then yes.01:23
Stormx2dooglus: sudo -i ?01:23
vincent_I'm on this site and I click on the guestbook and then the whole of the mozille firefox closes, what's wrong with it then? what on earth causes a whole program to close?01:23
kinkoblastMarlun: try chmod +r (file)01:23
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cfai have add a dual boot to this laptop01:23
dooglusStormx2: is that wrong?01:23
oskudedooglus, "sudo -i" = "sudo su -" ?01:23
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rawtekwhich do you prefer01:24
dooglusStormx2: try "echo $HOME" after each commnd...01:24
Stormx2dooglus: No, i just wondered what the -i option does01:24
eternale1i don't reccomend anyone in the middle of an unrar e process to ctrl-c it01:24
bitblitIs it possible to use WPA wireless encryption with Ubuntu? I have searched and can not find a guide...01:24
ubotumethinks ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me01:24
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cfawhile depends on what u want to use it for01:24
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dooglusStormx2: "man sudo" will tell you in detail, but basically it runs a login shell01:24
kinkoblastI just had a really good idea!01:24
wolverianbitblit, yes, see wiki.ubuntu.com and search for wpa01:24
Stormx2dooglus: ok :)01:24
marlunkinkoblast, that wasn't it either, everyone already had reading rights01:24
cfai was going to try ubuntu as a desktop01:24
rawtekthere is our sign...need to go back to the forums01:24
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Stormx2vincent_: Not sure, maybe some embedded activex or some horrible horrible code?01:24
kinkoblastmarlun: hmm... are images on in your browser?01:24
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bitblitwolverian: thank you, I found it :)01:25
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rawtekcfa what do you use BSD for01:25
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marlunkinkoblast, yeah01:25
pasadiahello, how can I increase the size of my system font?01:25
vincent_what is activex?01:25
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Stormx2vincent_: Evil01:25
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ubotuWish i knew, kinkoblast01:25
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vincent_like an evil spyware virus?01:25
Stormx2ubotu: no, activex is evil01:25
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ubotuokay, Stormx201:25
oskudepasadia, system -> preferences -> font01:25
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Grugman i am so lovin ubuntu01:26
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kinkoblast... NO ONE TAUGHT UBOTU ABOUT ACTIVEX!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!01:26
!lilo:*! services restart, please bear with us01:26
Stormx2Grug: Great :)01:26
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Stormx2kinkoblast: Just have ;-)01:26
jb__i could use a suggestion... i can't adjust the volume - stuck to max or mute. i've tried a few other solutions posted on the forums with no luck. i'm getting deafened by king crimson as i write this.01:26
ubotuactivex is, like, totally, evil01:26
pasadiaoskude, I don't have gnome01:26
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Grughey - i program activex components :)01:26
oskudepasadia, oh, sry01:26
cfarawtek i want to configure 2 things, builtin A/B/G, penabled WACOM01:26
vincent_so activex is only active in the linux world and not on windows?01:26
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rawtekso where are you at now01:26
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rawtekwith wifi01:26
kinkoblastubotu: ActiveX is a Microsoft technology that only works in IE on MS Windows.01:26
Stormx2vincent_: Opposite.01:26
ubotu...but activex is already something else...01:26
Grugyou can run com objects on linux01:26
vincent_but I opened this site from linux!01:26
kinkoblast!forget activex01:26
ubotukinkoblast: i forgot activex01:27
britishseapoweri have sound - but when i try and play an mp3 in xmms it says soundacrd not configured properly...i have installed the win32 codec pack01:27
dooglusvincent_: activex is a technology used in windows to make it easier for hackers to take over your machine01:27
cfastill working on both, install ubuntu yesterday01:27
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Stormx2dooglus: Well put.01:27
Grugso much misInformation :)01:27
kinkoblastubotu: ActiveX is a Microsoft technology that only works in IE on MS Windows.01:27
ubotuokay, kinkoblast01:27
vincent_I am at the global warming non sacrificial zone of the Netherlands01:27
rawtekok do you have the drive cfa?01:27
rawtekdriver that is01:27
marlunkinkoblast, does apache2 has some kind of switch for allowing or not allowing relative paths? =)01:27
cfawhere is the make command01:27
bam_anyone using an ftp server?01:27
kinkoblastThere. NPOV ActiveX def.01:27
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cfathe driver?01:28
rubicerrors during 5.04 -> 5.10 upgrade - can i just download and apply the .debs?   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/445001:28
rawtekfor the built in wifi01:28
Grugwhen i do an ls and i get filenames in *green*, what does that mean?01:28
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Stormx2kinkoblast: NPOV?01:28
vincent_so why does the program close in linux too then?01:28
cfayes for the A/B/G01:28
Stormx2Grug: Thats usually their permissions, I think01:28
krogoth64what's the best way to access X remotely?01:28
oskudeGrug, green = executable (i thin)01:28
Grugthanks storm - was just thinking that :)01:28
SmaugIs it possible to switch from grafical view (gnome) to text only?01:28
kinkoblaststormx2: Neutral Point Of View. I stole the term from Wikipedia :-)01:28
krogoth64I want to be able to leave applications running while I'm disconnected01:28
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rawtekis it a linux drive01:28
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thrushbam_: whats your question?01:28
cfabut when i try to  make it doesnt run01:28
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Stormx2kinkoblast: teehe01:28
doogluskrogoth64: probably using "ssh -X" - but what exactly do you want to do?01:28
bam_looking for a "simple" one to use01:28
cfayes linux driver01:28
rawtekdo you have a windows drive01:28
krogoth64firstly, I'm accessing it from windows :)01:28
sobersabrecfa what's the prob. from the start please ... ?01:28
vincent_it is linux ubuntu01:28
krogoth64I want to have the full desktop displayed on another computer01:29
BlueEagleKnow what? I liked ubuntu so much that I replaced Gentoo with it on my server. :)01:29
rawtekhave you ever heard of ndiswrapper01:29
bam_wondered if anyone had any recommendations01:29
rawtekitis awesome01:29
doogluskrogoth64: are these X programs you want to leave running?01:29
Stormx2bam_: You can use gftp, or you can "mount" the FTP server. Go to Places > Connect to server01:29
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thrushbam_: openssh-server01:29
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cfagreat, ok01:29
vincent_how can hackers take over your PC?01:29
thrushbam_: sudo apt-get install openssh-server01:29
SmaugIs it possible to switch from grafical view (gnome) to text only?01:29
Stormx2bam_: Mounting it will make it work invisibly, as if it were on your computer ;-)01:29
vincent_only with activex?01:29
BlueEaglebam_: I've used proftp and found it to be functional enough.01:29
krogoth64I want to be able to leave azureus running overnight while my desktop is shut down, and then be able to reconnect to it01:29
doogluskrogoth64: where do you want them to display?  on the windows box or the linux box?01:29
bam_ok, cool01:29
rawtekso download ndiswrapper from the repositories01:29
sobersabrevincent_ no.01:29
krogoth64on windows, the desktop01:29
fredforfaenI cant get k3b to burn mp3's to audiocd...it complaints about some missing plugin , any ideas?01:29
krogoth64I have the cygwin x server01:29
oskudevincent_, there are MANY ways to do that01:29
doogluskrogoth64: interesting.  I don't know if it's possible.01:30
cfai have the Atheros linux driver and i extract the tarball and i can not find the make command01:30
SmaugCan anyone help me?01:30
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vincent_like 10s.. or 100s ways??01:30
sobersabrefredforfaen, idea: install some missing plugin01:30
doogluskrogoth64: if you could use a console program, then it would be easy.  but X apps, I don't know.01:30
oskudevincent_, 100s or more :)01:30
kinkoblastVincent_: ActiveX lets web pages run arbatrary code on your computer. Like java, only windows-only.01:30
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rawtekI have never confi'd with linux drives01:30
Stormx2Smaug: You could open terminal, otherwise I'm not sure.01:30
fredforfaensobersabre well tell me what pluing to install then i will01:30
rawtekI am not smart enough01:30
thrushbam_: u were asking for ftp or ssh?01:30
krogoth64does ubuntu have good support for vnc?01:30
vincent_but now that I've installed linux I'm totally safe from activex?01:30
rawtekI habe to use the wrapper01:30
doogluskrogoth64: yes.  that would work.01:30
sobersabrefredforfaen , well, tell me what plugin is missing then i will01:31
doogluskrogoth64: but the apps would be displaying on your linux box then, not the windows box.01:31
cfawhere r the wrappers01:31
varsendaggerhey how do i configure xterm?01:31
Stormx2vincent_: Almost. if you install WINE and use IE as your browser, you arn't immune.01:31
krogoth64what do I need to get it up?01:31
bam_on my control panel on my website it gives an option to upload directly to a ftp server01:31
vincent_what the hell is WINE?01:31
rawtekyou have synaptic up right?01:31
kinkoblastvincent_: unless you use IE in wine, yeh.01:31
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krogoth64as long as they run on linux and I see them on windows I don't care what it does01:31
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doogluskrogoth64: there's a "remote desktop" menu entry somewhere in the menus - that lets you set up the VNC server01:31
Stormx2vincent_: Wine is a windows emulator, kind of. It lets you run windows programs on linux.01:31
bam_if I run one on my box, then I can save scheduled backups to it01:31
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vincent_I use Mozilla Firefox, so I am relatively safe01:32
cfarawtek 1 sec01:32
SmaugThanks Stormx2. I am running linux for the first time. I have tried redhat before, but I was never using it, but it was possible to switch somehow01:32
krogoth64and it runs the vnc server?01:32
rawtekcfa, k01:32
oskudekrogoth64, i tried VNC (system -> preferences -> remote desktop) and it worked like a charm from another ubuntu machine01:32
sobersabrefredforfaen ... what's up ? :)01:32
doogluskrogoth64: it runs *a* vnc server - I think it's called "vino" or something like that.01:32
Stormx2Smaug: I'm not sure! There will be a way, I'm not aware of it though!01:32
cfarawtek i have now01:32
thrushbam_: u prob want either pure-ftpd, or vsftpd if u apt-get either it should work fine for u01:32
rawtekok search for ndiswrapper01:32
Stormx2Smaug: Basicly you need to shut down X, but I don't know how to do that01:32
krogoth64ok, I think I have it... I'll switch over the hardware and see how fast I can get back here :)01:32
SmaugStormx2 ..I don't know what "X" is..01:32
vincent_is there also a commodoreamigaemulator?01:32
ubotuStormx2: Do they come in packets of five?01:32
Ahmuckubuntu live cd does not have ntp sync installed ?01:33
fredforfaensobersabre i cant burn audio cds in k3b01:33
Stormx2Smaug: X is the X Windowing System. It is basicly the graphical layer on top of text.01:33
Ngvincent_: UAE01:33
SmaugStormx2 I use gnome01:33
Stormx2Smaug: GNOME sits on X01:33
sobersabrefredforfaen, you don't see any answer in my messages ?01:33
SmaugStormx2 I see..01:33
varsendaggerthis is off topic but i have src and i can't do a ./configure  Make Make install01:33
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Stormx2varsendagger: What happens?01:34
dooglusvarsendagger: make is lower case01:34
TobaI hear macromedia flash 7 has a security hole01:34
fredforfaensobersabre huh?01:34
bam_oh, off subject question, cleaning up unused libraries, is there a way to do this, and how?01:34
varsendaggerwait i figured it out01:34
Tobahow would I upgrade that?01:34
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kinkoblastxfce is nice.01:34
SmaugStormx2 Ok, thanks anyway, I'll keep trying to get my voice heard.. ;p01:34
dnBhi, can someone let me know how to allow only certain sites for browsing? just installed edubuntu, going to be used unsupervised by children01:34
dooglusbam_: clean up unused dependancies in general with 'debfoster'01:34
varsendaggeri am using xubuntu should i install gcc or just cc?01:35
Stormx2Smaug: If you don't get an answer here, try ubuntuforums.org01:35
Stormx2varsendagger: Both ;-)01:35
cfarawtek, thanx01:35
Stormx2varsendagger: Well try gcc first.01:35
SmaugStormx2 Ah ok. thanks I'll try that one also01:35
cfarawtek i will try to config now, BRB01:35
vincent_so what is basically the difference in between Windows, C. Amiga and Linux? is there a small quick summary?01:35
rawtekdid you suck the driver in01:35
GrugdnB - you could go through MSN or AOL - they have very good parental controls01:35
dnBGrug, no way to restrict in firefox?01:35
Grugnot sure...01:36
dnBhrm, dont really want to use AOL or MSN if possible01:36
SmaugDoes anyone know how to switch from Gnome to textview?01:36
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Grugdon't blame you :)01:36
kvidellSmaug: Ctrl+Alt+F101:36
vincent_ok I guess my question is a little too complex01:36
krogoth64huh... it works01:36
dooglusvincent_: Windows is an operating system, linux is a kernel, C is a programming language and amiga is a kind of computer01:36
bam_debfoster, whats the syntax on that?01:36
kvidellAlt+F7 to get bac kto X01:36
varsendagger(ctl Alt F1)01:36
krogoth64does this mean I have to leave an X session logged in so I can connect with VNC?01:36
Smaugkvidell: Thank you!01:36
dnBamiga's had kick ass games ;D01:36
Stormx2Smaug: Told you ;-)01:36
kinkoblastdooglus: What about Amiga OS?01:36
SmaugStormx2: Hehe thanks :)01:37
vincent_but surely windows has a kernel too?01:37
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dooglusvincent_: what is basically the difference between the moon, a banana and dirk bogart?01:37
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cfarawtek should i restart the network service, they dont c the A/G01:37
Trabvincent_: windows has a kernal, but its really ugly01:37
doogluskinkoblast: amiga os is an operating system01:37
vincent_like the face of Bill Gates (50)?01:37
krogoth64Trab: you've seen it?01:37
wolverianTrab, have you seen it?01:37
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varsendaggerwhich is better open box or fluxbox01:37
rawtekcfa once you installed the driver...01:37
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Grugwindows kernel is very well designed actually.01:37
kvidellSmaug: no problem.01:37
rawtekdid you go to network tools to enable01:37
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krogoth64inquiring minds want to know01:37
Stormx2Grug: BLASPHAMY!01:38
Trabseen the windows kernal?01:38
vincent_so in weekends you are allowed to stay up after 12.00 PM, no?01:38
Traberrr kernel01:38
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Trabno, but ive had far too many issues with it to love it01:38
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cfarawtek i believe i did, after i found the driver i marked it anf then applied it01:38
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kinkoblastvincent_: GNU/Linux and Windows are operating systems. They comunicate between software and hardware. Windows is propritary. That means you can not look at the source code to fix problems or make copies for your friends.01:38
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necatorwhere do files go that synaptic installs?01:38
rawtekok now the system should see the a/g but will still need to activate in network tools01:39
necatorlike what folder.01:39
Trabthats kinda the point01:39
Trabof a deb01:39
Smaugkvidell: I was trying to start up quake2, but it didn't work.. So what is textview good for actually?01:39
dooglusnecator: all over the place, wherever they belong.01:39
Trabthey are told where to go01:39
Stormx2necator: To your computer in the means of installed-ness01:39
varsendaggerok i'm currentlu running xfce on top of ubuntu-base01:39
Trabso that it works best01:39
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Stormx2necator: Why?01:39
necatorso how would i locate a particular file?01:39
Stormx2necator: Find.01:39
dooglusnecator: you can "dpkg -L <packagename>" to see what it installed for any given package01:39
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kinkoblastVincent_: GNU/Linux, on the other hand, is Free Software, meaning that you have the freedom to change, distribute, or if you so desire have sex with it.01:39
varsendaggerand i just apt-get installed xubuntu-desktop01:39
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oskudekrogoth64, i opened my pc1 with System->Preferences->Remote Desktop, [x]  allow other users... then on PC2 type "vncviewer <ip of pc2>:"01:39
varsendaggerand it is going to take an hour to finish01:39
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cfarawtek, yes and the card was not there01:40
Stormx2varsendagger: Because its big?01:40
Gruglol storm01:40
Grugi just installed windows ttf fonts and everything looks great now01:40
rawtekcfa, ok then the driver is not acting right01:40
necatoris there any good terminal guides out there that can teach a beginner such useful commands as what u just mentioned dooglus01:40
krogoth64I'll need to reboot this computer with no display/input attached... will vnc log me in?01:40
varsendaggerwell what all will i be getting?01:40
Gruglove netbeans too01:40
Grugso far :)01:40
oskudekrogoth64, you dont need to reboot !01:40
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dnBanyone know if there is a ubuntu package for 'dansguardian' or something similar for good web content filtering?01:41
vincent_sex with something recursive acronymic must be fantastic01:41
krogoth64it happens01:41
rawtekyou should have clicked on windows wireless drivers...clicked add driver and then sucked the driver in from a file location01:41
bam_dooglus, how do I use debfoster?01:41
krogoth64and I need to move the computer to another room today01:41
Stormx2vincent_: Sex: Emulating X01:41
Stormx2vincent_: Now there's a damn good recursive acronym01:41
oskudekrogoth64, sorry, i got it know. dunno how to automate vnc-server to be run when boot-up, sry01:41
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vincent_but only the name GNU/linux is recursive, no? the OS itself is not recursive??01:42
krogoth64would I have to have it automatically log in on boot?01:42
genbieanyone using balsa or evolution here plz?01:42
dooglusbam_: just run "sudo debfoster" (once you've installed the 'debfoster' package).  it will ask you a bunch of questions about whether you want to keep certain packages.  you can say 'y' or 'n' for yes and no, or "p" to uninstall the package and all its dependancies.  it will remember your answers01:42
bam_ahh, I see01:42
dooglusbam_: then, next time you run it, it won't ask so many questions - it'll just ask about the stuff you've installed since the last time you ran it.01:42
cfarawtek, where would i c the windows wireless card01:42
oskudekrogoth64, do you mean the pc that you want to use through vnc has no monitor ?01:43
necatoro id like to apologize to everyone who had to deal with my frusteration breakdown i was imature.01:43
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AlakalaHow do I get the drivers for radeon-3d card to work?01:43
oskudekrogoth64, and you want vnc-server to start on boot ?01:43
SmaugStormx2: Is it possible to change screendepth from 32 to 16 or something?01:43
krogoth64I'm sure it has an init script01:43
necatorit was yesterday im sorry.01:43
Stormx2Smaug: Yep. "xorg-config"01:43
krogoth64ubuntu isn't THAT bad I hope01:43
oskudekrogoth64, sry, never done that :)01:43
dooglusbam_: if unsure, you can answer '?' and it will show a description of the package.  or answer 's' to skip the question.  it'll ask you again next time about any you skip01:43
vincent_recursive would mean files randomly popping up on your harddisks...01:43
AlakalaI'm on breezy and if I try to install em, and reboot xserver, it doesn't work.01:43
rawteki dnot undestand01:43
krogoth64I just don't know if I have to be logged in already for vnc to connect01:43
Stormx2Smaug: Wait, thats wrong =O hang on01:43
SmaugStormx2: Would you guide me through the process? =] 01:44
bam_cool, now I can clean up all the garbage01:44
oskudekrogoth64, hmm, i think so, cause vnc shows u a xwindows session...01:44
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steigweisi have to install the original nvidia drivers for breezy now. must i remove the nvidia-glx package before that?01:44
cfarawtek where would i have clicked windows wireless card and how would i get  the drives01:44
krogoth64vnc can't just connect directly to the X server, can it?01:44
doogluskrogoth64: I've not played with ubuntu's built in vnc server yet.  I used 'x11vnc' before I found out about vino.  That allows you to connect to a running X Windows session01:44
Stormx2Smaug: Yes, once i've found the damned command.01:44
SmaugStormx2: I am really new to linux.. I don't know how to install anything etc.. I am running quake2 through wine and stuff..01:44
doogluskrogoth64: it can - if you use x11vnc01:44
krogoth64so I could get the gdm screen?01:44
cfarawtek, in a menu or somewhere else01:44
Stormx2Smaug: Running quake through wine is good for a new user ;-)01:44
oskudekrogoth64, you mean connect to a xserver and log in as a user... dunno, sry01:45
vincent_if you do that Smaug aren't you at risk of hackers taking over your PC?01:45
SmaugStormx2: Even tho there are a quake linux version01:45
rawteksystem...  administration.... windows wireless drivers, the drivers you have to obtain with the computer01:45
doogluskrogoth64: I don't know about that.  I logged in through the gdm screen, then ran "x11vnc" as the user.01:45
krogoth64I'll have to try this out and see if it works01:45
SmaugVincent_ what would a hacker ever find on my pc?01:45
rawtekthat is what ndiswrapper is01:45
dabaRok, aptitude just installed flash on me...01:45
krogoth64if I allow vnc sharing in the ubuntu settings, it should work every time I log in01:45
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rawteka program to install windows .inf files onlinux01:45
vincent_don't you have personal pictures and/or documents?01:46
vincent_maybe some billing info of your company?01:46
Smaugvincent_ I am totally new, this is a fresh install :)01:46
steigweisi have to install the original nvidia drivers for breezy now. must i remove the nvidia-glx package before that?01:46
Stormx2Someone remind me how to reconfigure X :-\01:46
Stormx2I forget01:46
ubotusudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:46
Smaugvincent_ I'm only doing it cos I dont know how to install it otherwise01:46
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vincent_I'm having problems with running pdflatex, this only runs with wine?01:47
cfaok, i get it, so get the windows wireless drives on a disk then add then by going to the admin - system - network setting01:47
rawtekcfa, I got to run for now....I will check back with you in an hour or so01:47
vincent_does ultraedit run under linux too?01:47
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jorge_Seveas: you here?01:48
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jorge_Seveas: you here01:48
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vincent_when text appears red does it mean people talk to me alone and not in the group?01:48
|sam|hi there, ACPI is not needed for desktops right?01:48
jorge_no, they talk to you but everyone sees it01:49
jorge_it's just so that you can see it easier01:49
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Stormx2Still there, Smaug?01:49
crimsun|sam|: it can be and normally is for newer hardware01:49
SmaugStormx2 yup01:49
chopini just installed new relase of ubuntu01:49
Stormx2sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:49
chopini got an error on dpkg01:49
jorge_hey guys, if I have two 40gb drives, one master, one slave, can i install windows on one and ubuntu on the other01:49
Stormx2Smaug: What did you want to change?01:49
SmaugStormx2: There are too many colors01:50
|sam|crimsun; thx01:50
wolverianjorge_, ye01:50
wolverian(damn enter key)01:50
SmaugStormx2: My pc is too slow for winxp, therefor I run linux01:50
jorge_cause i just did, didnt know if i'd get errors01:50
Stormx2Smaug: OK. Go through that wizard. The current option is always selected, so best keep pressing enter untill you get to the colours section01:50
SmaugStormx2: But linux had alot of pictures also01:50
vincent_Smaug: you are from Sweden!01:50
Smaugvincent_ I know.. ;p01:51
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chopinanyone experienced problems on dpkg?01:51
vincent_Hur str det till?01:51
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oskudewhere is the "best" reposity to find "w32codecs" ?01:51
Stormx2Smaug: You can set colour depth in that wizard01:51
Smaugvincent_ Rtt schysst01:51
ubotuw32codecs is, like, for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/01:51
Stormx2Smaug: Options are: 24, 16, 15, 8, 4, 101:51
vincent_that's not good I think01:52
Stormx2Smaug: 1 bit will be black and white hehe01:52
jorge_can someone tell ubuntu to tell me about adding new repositories01:52
SmaugStormx2 What wizzard are we talking about?01:52
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ubotuI heard repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource01:52
vincent_Smaug guess shit?01:52
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Smaugvincent_ va?01:52
Stormx2Smaug: Go to terminal, and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"01:52
Stormx2And press enter.01:53
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Sannejorge_: you can do: /msg ubotu questionterm01:53
oskudelol WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!01:53
oskude  w32codecs01:53
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Stormx2oskude: ignore it.01:53
Smaugvincent_ Dutch?01:53
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oskudeStormx2, but why does it say that ?01:54
Smaugvincent_ Oh, hoe is het?01:54
vincent_heel goed, dank u01:54
Stormx2oskude: You havn't configured the packages to be signed. Go to http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl if you are that bothered by it ;-)01:54
vincent_I've been teaching my neighbours some klaverjassen01:54
Smaugvincent_ Hehe :) Ik spreek wel een beetje nederlands hoor01:54
vincent_a classical dutch game01:54
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odie5533Does python come standard with ubuntu? IE is it on the install disc?01:55
Stormx2My dutch exctends to this: "Boom Ja! Boom! Hallo!"01:55
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tritiumodie5533, yes01:55
luca__Hi :)01:55
oskudeStormx2, roger01:55
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Stormx2luca__: hey!01:55
vincent_I would love to learn swedish and norwegian, I have two little books already from the "wat&hoe" series01:55
siimothe taskbar flashing thing has a bug for gaim in breezy :-/01:55
Stormx2vincent_: Learn japanese ;-)01:55
vincent_semeai, seki!01:55
Stormx2siimo: No. it waits for you to start typing, then goes away01:55
vincent_what the hell good does japanese do me?01:56
Stormx2vincent_: Anime is in japanese/01:56
vincent_that's like sooo far away man01:56
siimoStormx2, , thats annoying it should wait for you to focus window and then go01:56
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Stormx2siimo: I know.01:56
oskudeis http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ a "home" server (low download)01:56
Stormx2oskude: No idea01:56
siimoStormx2, fixed :)01:56
Stormx2siimo: Was it in preferences?01:56
vincent_when you have had a psychose, is your life over then?01:57
vincent_do you have to wait for reincarnation before it starts getting fun again?01:57
siimoStormx2, yah remove when conversation window gaims focus01:57
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tritiumvincent_, please stay on topic01:57
oskudeStormx2, but when "ubotu" says it, i hope its "trust worthy" :)01:57
Stormx2oskude: usually.01:58
uboturumour has it, activex is evil01:58
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, windows is unnecessary, everything runs in Linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office or find an !alternative01:58
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Stormx2;-) Ubuto is always right01:58
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Juhazit's just a bot, everyone can enter those descriptions01:58
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Stormx2Ubotu, infact. Ack!01:58
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, Stormx201:58
SmaugStormx2: I have done all that now01:58
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SmaugStormx2: But nothing seem to have changed01:59
oskudeJuhaz, you mean even i can "reprogram" ubotu ? omg01:59
SmaugStormx2: Do I need to reboot?01:59
vincent_Smaug how come you speak dutch?01:59
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dnBi just used apt to download install a bunch of new games for my lil bro and my son, will they be automatically added to the applications list under 'games'? or is there something i must do?01:59
Stormx2Smaug: What do you mean?01:59
Stormx2Smaug: No. Save any unsaved work01:59
Juhazoskude, you can also "reprogram" the entire wikipedia, usually it's still trustworthy :)01:59
Smaugvincent_ Ik heb in hoorn gewonen01:59
Stormx2Smaug: Then press Ctrl + Alt + Backspace01:59
oskudeJuhaz, ok :)01:59
fanopnaicdnB: should be done automatically02:00
SmaugStormx2 DoI need to kill xchat?02:00
Stormx2Smaug: No.02:00
oskudednB, type "killall gnome-applet" and wait for the menu to reload, and all games with menu settings will be there02:00
hyakuheiEvening all, I installed breezy a little while ago and networking, specifcially http, is being very very flakey my laptop didnt have a problem with kanotix, but with breezy nat'd http stuff gets mangled02:00
oskudednB, sry it was "killall gnome-panel"02:00
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vincent_heb je daar stage gelopen, daar in hoorn?02:00
ubotuOp #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.02:01
ubotuoskude: What?02:01
oskudesf = suomi finland :)02:01
oskudeoh wait02:02
vincent_so suomi means "our"?02:02
ubotuI guess fi is "Suomalaiset: Suomea puhutaan kanavalla #ubuntu-fi"02:02
dnBoskude, thank you :)02:02
oskudejuhuu :)02:02
oskudednB, your welcome02:02
Grugwow - netbeans is nice for being free02:02
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vincent_smaug heb je stage gelopen in hoorn?02:02
Smaugvincent_ stage?02:03
oskudeif some1 bored, watch demoscene.tv (hq channel) with me :)02:03
Grughey guys, any other good irc channels for linux enthusiasts?02:03
SmaugStormx2: My screenresolution changed drasticly02:03
raphinkGrug: #kubuntu ? :)02:03
Smaugvincent_ I don't know :x02:03
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, oskude02:04
raphinkGrug: #debutant if you speak french ;)02:04
Grugok... what is the config file to change color bit depth in my current resolution?02:04
dooglusoskude: it seems to require activex?02:04
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oskudehmm, mplayer freezed02:05
dooglusGrug: /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:05
vincent_so in australia it is 14:00 now?02:05
raphinkGrug: /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:05
oskudedooglus, copy the link and open in mplayer02:05
raphinkargh too late !02:05
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dooglusoskude: I'm on an XP box atm02:05
oskudedooglus, they use nullsoft video format (should be in w32codecs)02:05
siimovincent_, depends on where02:05
oskudedooglus, get winamp player02:05
moshehow do I change the default display manager?02:05
mosheI remember reading it can be done with a dpkg-reconfigure, but I can't remember exactly02:05
Stormx2Smaug: It did?02:05
SmaugStormx2: Hehe02:05
raphinkwhat is your current manager moshe ?02:05
SmaugStormx2: I only have 3 resolutions to choose between now02:05
dooglusoskude: how can I find the link?02:05
oskudedooglus, sec02:05
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SmaugStormx2: And the colors look funny ^^02:05
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dooglusoskude: I'm using IE, but it's all in Czech, so I can't even find "open page source" or whatever02:06
siimovincent_, actually its 1400 in new zealand, in australia EDT is 1200 now02:06
mosheraphael, kdm02:06
Stormx2Smaug: Run that wizard again and add the other resolution. Mind that some resolutions and colour depths are incompatible02:06
mosheI want to switch to gdm and see how I like it.02:06
raphinkmoshe: and you want it to gdm ?02:06
Stormx2dooglus: lmao.02:06
oskudedooglus, paste this to mplayer/winamp: http://mirror.zonart.net:8018/listen.pls02:06
raphinkthen you can use dpkg-reconfigure kdm02:06
SmaugStormx2: Can I have that commandline again please?02:06
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SmaugStormx2: Everything died02:06
raphinkfor example02:06
Stormx2Smaug: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:06
bob2vincent_: ' TZ=Australia/Sydney date', in a terminal02:07
C_J_ProIn which directory are mysql databases stored on ubuntu?02:07
bob2C_J_Pro: /var/lib/mysql, I'd assume02:07
SmaugStormx2: Thanks alot for your help02:07
raphinkmoshe: the kdm postinstall script grants you what DM you want to use02:07
moshewon't that just reconfigure kdm if I issue that command?02:07
bob2C_J_Pro: dpkg -L mysql-server | grep var02:07
Stormx2Smaug: I hope i did help at all ;-) Anyway, good night all. Its 1 am here!02:07
raphinkmoshe: choosing a dm is not really a matter of whether you like it or not02:07
ubotuhmm... ie is Aye boyo! Head on over t' the #ubuntu-ie channel02:07
raphinkmoshe: it's rather a matter of what DE you use the most02:07
C_J_ProAccidentally ran a rm -rf / when I mean rm -rf ./*02:07
mosheraphael, well, I use xfce02:07
fanopnaicoskude: fun, in vlc I don't have video, in xine I don't have sound, in mplayer I have both :) (with that demoscene.tv thingie)02:07
raphinkmoshe: then use xdm02:07
bob2C_J_Pro: you're probably screwed then02:07
C_J_Prostopped it quickly, and I need to recover the mysql databases02:07
oskudefanopnaic, :)02:08
moshebut my wife uses kde02:08
vincent_so linux has no 02:08
vincent_ signs in its ascii table02:08
raphinkmoshe: then keep kdm02:08
mosheand xdm doesn't let you choose sessions02:08
_jasonhas anyone here been able to setup horizontal scroll on their mouse (or at least get the tilt buttons to genereate different button numbers in xev than other buttons on the mouse)?02:08
mosheI want to see what gdm is like.02:08
tarheelcoxnC_J_Pro: respect the root!02:08
raphinkmoshe: there's no point at all in using gdm if you use xfce and your wife uses kde02:08
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oskudefanopnaic, that demoscene.tv uses a nullsoft (closed) video format, and with mplayer it works with the w32codecs...02:08
raphinkmoshe: you can launche gdm from console without having to set it as default02:08
siimomoshe, why dont you just switch to terminal kill kdm and load gdm =) if all you want to do is see what gdm is like02:08
mosheok fine02:09
raphinkthat's what I was about to propose siimo  :)02:09
someotherguyCan anyone help me?02:09
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: just ask your question02:09
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raphinkwith word? no way :p02:09
raphinkwell depends02:10
raphinkif it's kwork then yes02:10
raphinkI'm getting tired :(02:10
oskudefor linux you need atleas double-word :)02:10
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raphinkthanks tarheelcoxn02:10
dooglusoskude: do you know if winamp 3 is available somewhere?  winamp 5 sucks02:10
raphinkI think I shall go to bed rather though tarheelcoxn02:10
someotherguyI just installed breezy from one of the pressed cd's on an old p2-500mhz, with 256 megs of ram. It installed alright, but now when it's booting, when gnome tries to load I get a black screen and I get a Long-short-short-short beep code.02:10
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LathropWellsI Love Ubuntu!02:10
oskudedooglus, dunno. and dunno if winamp3 has the video codec...02:11
someotherguyI guess the question is "wtf?"02:11
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oskudeLathropWells, me too :)02:11
ubuntumother fockers02:11
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raphinkinteresting point of view on life02:12
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necatoroskude what video codec do you need?02:12
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raphinktoo late thoreauputic02:12
oskudeoh, the next demo is hard, but nice02:12
Koriohow do i get XDM to work in ubuntu?02:12
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: you might try a server install02:12
thoreauputicraphael: indeed02:12
oskudenecator, none, why u ask ?02:12
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rawtekcfa, how are things coming02:12
raphinkKorio: you install it02:12
Korioraphink, o rly? well it doesnt start02:12
necatoroskude i heard you say something about you and dooglus dont know if winamp had the codec.02:12
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someotherguyIs the p2 too gutless to run it full install?02:12
necatoroskude so i was curious what you were trying to do i might be able to help.02:12
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: when you boot from the pressed CD, type "server" at the prompt02:12
jorge_how can I make it so my icons are automatically organized02:12
raphinkKorio: then you dpkg-reconfigure it02:12
fanopnaicoskude: ah ok, I forgot to register the codecs after installing gstreamer-pitfdll. now it works in xine too (didn't know that xine uses gstreamer anyway)... vlc still a no go (only uses its own codecs methinks)02:12
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: it might run xubuntu nicely02:12
oskudenecator, the nullsoft video codec, forgot the name02:12
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Korioraphink, that only re-installs it... i have always had this problem with ubuntu02:13
LathropWellsBeeep- beep beep beep!     here is the link http://www.computerhope.com/beep.htm02:13
necatoroskude do you have winamp?02:13
jorge_how can I install gdm themes, the ones where you log in02:13
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: do the server install and then install the xubuntu-desktop package02:13
Korioraphael, you must be the smartest kid on the block..02:13
raphinkhmm how about dpkg-reconfigure gdm Korio ?02:13
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necatoroskude xmms is like a linux clone of winamp its worth a try.02:13
Korioraphink, *02:13
jorge_how can I install a gdm theme (login theme)02:13
raphinkKorio: :p it's late here :p02:13
Korioraphael, i dont have gdm02:13
Korioraphink ;p02:13
someotherguyIt's either a memory failure, or a graphics failure...despite the fact that it was happily running xp a few hours ago.02:14
oskudenecator, i have it working (demoscene.tv) on mplayer, the question was if winamp3 (on windows) has the video codec...02:14
SmaugIf I choose all available screenresolutions from the xconf list, will there be a problem?02:14
tarheelcoxntarheelcoxn: another option you might try is booting into single-user mode and removing ubuntu-desktop02:14
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kinkoblastI wrote a parageaph into Ubotu. Check it out at winvlin. Ignore the last bit, I had to make some sort of joke.02:14
necatoroskude ah i  c.02:14
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: another option you might try is booting into single-user mode and removing ubuntu-desktop02:14
LathropWellsRealplayer must be run as root? - is there a lib that totem can use for ram  pl  streams?02:14
thoreauputicjorge_: you just drag it onto the login customising dialogue ( see system admin in menu)02:14
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oskudejorge_, System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup02:14
someotherguytarheelcoxn: It doesn't seem to want to let me boot at all.02:15
necatorjorge_ go to system > administrator > login screen setup02:15
thoreauputicjorge_: Login Screen Setup02:15
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: o.002:15
necatorbeat me too it oskude :p02:15
SmaugIf I choose all available screenresolutions from the xconf list, will there be a problem?02:15
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oskudenecator, :)02:15
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: can you boot from the CD again?02:15
someotherguytarheelcoxn: Well, it'll boot, but right after it finishes loading and before it goes into x, the screen goes black and it gives me the beeps.02:15
tarheelcoxnor from the liveCD?02:15
switchcatim installing server ubuntu.. and have the three kernels to choose from, how do i know which to choose?02:15
someotherguysomeotherguy: Yes, I can.02:15
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bob2switchcat: the default02:15
sunshine82im meant to have a folder called usr/src/linux but the linux file is unknow how do i get another linux file02:15
jorge_how can i install a splash screen02:15
bob2if you have no idea, use the default02:15
thoreauputicsomeotherguy: beeps suggest hardware issues02:15
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someotherguytarheelcoxn: Yes, I can.02:15
oskudejorge_, and then the "themed greeter" tab, just click "install new theme" and select the downloaded file02:16
raphinkswitchcat: what is your proc?02:16
LathropWellsSmaug - nah - you can toggle from new res using ctrl+alt+numpad + or numpad -02:16
bob2sunshine82: what are you trying to do?02:16
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switchcatpIII i think02:16
necatorsystem > prerfences > splash screen jorge_02:16
potusdoes anyone have any idea why my ssh daemon is dropping the connection as soon as i enter a username? (openssh-server)?02:16
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someotherguyI'll go re-seat my ram and video card...you never know.02:16
raphinkswitchcat: and what choice are you given?02:16
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: do you know what single-user mode is?02:16
potusyet i can use the same username for ftp.02:16
someotherguytarheelcoxn: Nope.02:16
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: okay... then just re-install02:16
SmaugLathropwells: I wanted to change screendepth, and I did. But then my screenresolution went huge, and I want my old back, and I don't know wich one that was02:16
tarheelcoxnusing "server" at the first prompt02:16
dooglusthis is a little offtopic - but does anyone know where I might find an everquest IRC channel?02:16
dnBcan someone help me out? im trying to setup iptables, using a tutorial that says to type "iptables-save > /etc/sysconfig/iptables" however that isnt working02:16
jorge_necator: i dont have splashscreen under preferences02:17
switchcatlinux-386 image-386 and umage 2.6-12.9 -38602:17
sunshine82bob2 im tryin to set up my ebcam this the site im using http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Webcam-HOWTO.html02:17
someotherguytarheelcoxn: When I first got the cds, I booted off the live cd and it gave me this problem, but I figured installing the full install would fix it.02:17
switchcater image too02:17
bob2dnB: that tutorial is for redhat02:17
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raphinkoh yeah right02:17
bob2dnB: /usr/share/doc/iptables/README.Debian.gz02:17
sunshine82bob2 my webcam02:17
raphinkswitchcat: I usually choose linux-38602:17
someotherguytarheelcoxn: That's why I'm not led to believe that re-installing it would make a difference.02:17
dnBbob2, you dont know the correct command for it?02:17
fanopnaicswitchcat: take linux-38602:17
LathropWellsSmaug - you can use what you like and edit away the rest.02:17
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: you may have a problem with Xorg02:17
raphinkit doesn't really matter anyway02:17
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dnBok thanks bob2 ill go rtfm ;)02:18
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: you'll likely have to tinker to get any gui to work properly02:18
someotherguytarheelcoxn: any other gui's I could boot to installed by default?02:18
switchcatwhat ARE the other ones for?02:18
fanopnaicI must say the video quality of this nullsoft video thing is quite good considering it only consumes 1Mbps02:18
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.02:18
SmaugLathropwells: I don't know wich one I liked02:18
someotherguytarheelcoxn: perhaps kde?02:18
kinkoblastIs there a greeter theme that matches xfce/xubuntu?02:18
SmaugLathropwells: Before it went like this02:18
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dooglusdnB: dnB what error so you see?02:18
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: very doubtful02:18
LathropWellsdooglus - google ircspy.com or .net i don't remember02:18
potusAnyone got any idea about my ssh problem?  drops connection after entering a valid username?02:18
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SmaugLathropwells: But will it be OK if I choose to incklude them all?02:18
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: it'll be easier for us (or someone else) to help you if you can first get an install working02:18
bob2sunshine82: what chipset does it have?02:18
bob2potus: can you ssh from localhost on that machine?02:19
Grugmy god - it is incredibly difficult to simply install an nvidia driver02:19
thoreauputictarheelcoxn: 500mhz 256MB should handle gnome OK ( not fast but OK)02:19
Grugthis could take a while :)02:19
potusbob2: cant tell now. i rebooted by ssh. now i cant sshback in..  altho the ftp and webserver are up.02:19
SmaugGrug, I got it from a selfinstalling package, just for ubuntu02:19
potusthe ssh comes up login: once i enter anything it just disconnects me.. without prompting for password.02:19
SmaugGrug: Yeah, I'm totally new to linux02:19
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: do you get a login prompt after the beeping?02:19
Grugwhere did you get it?02:19
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: or do you just get nothing?02:19
kinkoblastIs there a greeter theme that matches xfce/xubuntu?02:19
LathropWellsSmaug - Smaug - you can but i would be conservative - some monitoers (mine included) hate anything above 1280X102402:19
someotherguytarheelcoxn: Nah, it just freezes.02:19
SmaugGrug: I got it from a link from ubuntu website02:20
sunshine82bob2 divio n80202:20
someotherguyThe little flashing underscore in the corner stops flashing.02:20
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dooglusLathropWells: it looks like ircspy.com is for finding files available on IRC, not for finding channels02:20
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someotherguytarheelcoxn: The little flashing underscore in the corner stops flashing.02:20
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thoreauputickinkoblast: please don't repeat - have you looked at xfce.look.org or whatever it's called ?02:20
SmaugLathropwells, but it won't burn up will it?02:20
LathropWellsdooglus - nah it is the best thing on the net for irc channels even company info02:20
bob2potus: have you touched anyssh settings at all, on the client or server?02:20
kinkoblastthoeauputic: Um... a little more specific?02:21
someotherguytarheelcoxn: I'll go re-seat the ram and the video card, just to be sure it's not just being retarded.02:21
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tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: fair enough02:21
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LathropWellsSmaug - accepting the defaults is usually 1024X768 and that should be okayy for even the oldest monitors.02:21
oskudeubotu demoscene.tv is a cool place to get the best demos as video stream, needs w32codecs to encode02:21
ubotuoskude: okay02:21
ubotuhmm... demoscene.tv is a cool place to get the best demos as video stream, needs w32codecs to encode02:22
potusbob2: idk maybe apt-get did on all this advanture of installing ISPConfig.    what would likely be the  cause/file?02:22
oskudehehe :)02:22
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SmaugLathropwells: That is what I use now. but everything is huge02:22
bob2potus: ispconfig soundslike some cpanel-like monstrosity, yes?02:22
thoreauputickinkoblast: start here I guess http://www.xfce.org/index.php02:22
LathropWellssmaug - if you are still concerned FCC.GOV aand the FCC ID# from the back panel will give you specs if the manufacturer isn't easy to find.02:22
wonderingdoes anyone here have kdevelop "designer" crash as soon as you try to open it?02:22
wonderingI can get all of the other Kdevelop apps to open fine02:23
bob2sunshine82: 'sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)', in a terminal02:23
wonderingbut not designer02:23
sunshine82bob2 any ideas02:23
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bob2wondering: #kubuntu may no more02:23
LathropWellsSmaug - what happens with ctrl+alt+   numpad +02:23
bob2er, know02:23
potusbob2: a webbased one, yes; i stopped it.. took program outta contrab. and rebooted.02:23
SmaugLathropwells: Ok, I'll try figure it out.. Thanks alot for your help!02:23
wonderinggood point bob202:23
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ubotuoskude: Are you on ritalin?02:23
wonderingbut I am runing it in Ubuntu02:23
Koriois the universe for breezy up and running now?02:23
ubotuoskude: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about02:23
wonderingwith just the dependencies installed02:23
wonderingno kubuntu desktop02:23
LathropWellsSamuag - we are here to help 24/702:23
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, oskude02:24
sunshine82bob2 that done02:24
LathropWellsI love Ubuntu!  - (oops did i say that already?)02:24
SmaugLathropwells: Thanks :)02:24
Grugwait till you try and install nvidia drivers :)02:24
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potusi got an idea02:24
Smauggrug wait02:24
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potusapt-get remove openssh-server02:24
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potusapt-get install openssh-server02:24
potusshould fix =)02:24
dabaRLathropWells: you are where 24/7?02:24
JasonOfEarthhey does anyone know what package contains the X11 file flipped_gray? Or how to find out?02:24
bob2sunshine82: then the driver should compile02:24
Aurorai love ubuntu too but why is apache giving me forbidden messages!02:25
myrth_i've just installed ubuntu on my laptop :)02:25
potusbob2: sound right?02:25
bob2JasonOfEarth: packages.ubuntu.com02:25
glickhey what does it mean in bittorrent when there are 0 seeders?02:25
bob2Aurora: when doing what?02:25
bob2glick: that no one currently active has the whole file02:25
myrth_how do i install KDE?02:25
Auroratrying to request any page through it02:25
glickok thanks bob202:25
JasonOfEarthexcellent thanks bob202:25
bob2glick: people may have enough non-overlapping parts spread amongst the rest to reconstruct it, tho02:25
dooglusglick: it means that nobody has the whole file.02:25
Aurorai configured it to use a folder in my homedir as a document root02:25
bob2myrth_: install kubuntu-desktop02:25
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bob2Aurora: that's silly02:25
LathropWellsdabaR -  i meant #ubuntu        dabaR of course is here more than anyone else.02:25
bob2Aurora: but the issue is probably that you didn't set o=rx permissions on every dir between / and your doc root02:25
dabaRLathropWells: read me in one line, eh?02:25
myrth_err.. what's default password for root?02:25
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Aurorahmm, okay02:26
raphinkthere's no default passwd for root myrth_02:26
raphinkmyrth_: by default the root account is not activated02:26
dabaRmyrth_: its your password02:26
sunshine82bob2 i wish it was that easy im getinn this error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/445102:26
oskudemyrth_, sudo ask your password02:26
bob2myrth_: wiki.ubuntu/com/RootSudo02:26
Aurorai dont see why it needs +x and stuff on parent dirs of the doc root though02:26
myrth_su - without password says authentication failure, and also default user password doesn't work02:26
bob2Aurora: ok, but that's the way it is02:26
dnBanyone know how i can get a new default squid.conf?02:26
raphink!tell myrth_ about sudo02:27
SmaugGrug: I have this package: "automatix-ubuntu_v3.1.1.tar.gz"02:27
dooglusAurora: if a directory doesn't have +x, it can't be opened02:27
bob2myrth_: the installer did explain this to you02:27
Auroranope, the permissions are set02:27
Grugthankx smaug02:27
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bob2dnB: lessone #1: backup config files before touching them02:27
SmaugGrug: But I couldn't find it while searching for it :x02:27
SeveasGrug, you'd better throw that out befoure you wreck your system with it02:27
thoreauputickinkoblast: a bit of googling found this >>  http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/gdm-xfce/02:27
SmaugGrug: But it is ther somewhere :x02:27
dnBbob2, definitely :P02:27
Grugeither could i...02:27
dachnaz_Quick question. ^^02:27
bob2dnB: also, sudo dpkg -P --force-depends squid ; sudo apt-get install squid02:27
Grugyeah i'm gonna give up on drivers for a while :)02:27
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dnBbob2, thanks ;)02:27
SmaugGrug: Hehe ;)02:27
SeveasSmaug, I mean02:27
bob2Aurora: what is your docroot set at?02:27
Grugit's not like windows one-click setup.exe02:27
dachnaz_How do I change the root password or sudo or login as root?02:27
SmaugSeveas: What?02:27
LathropWellssuk, - software patents - jeez was reading that amazon.com got a patent for "one click ordering."  - no idea if they are going to enforce it or just keep it away from patent trolls02:27
SeveasSmaug, don't use automatix02:27
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Seveasit's just another crappy script02:28
thoreauputic!tell dachnaz_ about root02:28
dabaRGrug: mostly if you ave to insatll a driver in windows, teh installation is not one click.02:28
SmaugSeveas: Why? It's my lifesaviour :)02:28
lizardcrywhere can i get kernel 2.6.13 for ubuntu 5.10?02:28
Kman^!tell Kman^ about root02:28
dabaRGrug: why do you always refer windows?02:28
bob2dachnaz_: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:28
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Grugwell, i've never seen otherwise dabar... you have advice for installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu?02:28
Seveasthen don't come whining when it screws over your system02:28
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tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: any luck?02:28
bob2lizardcry: you can't, simply02:28
bob2lizardcry: why do you want it?02:28
SmaugSeveas: Please..02:28
bob2Grug: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:28
sunshine82bob2 what u think02:28
Grugahhh - thanks bob - i'll check it out02:29
codecainecan someone tell me how my VOIP device behind my netgear router is receiving phone calls when I don't have any port forwarding in the router for it, how does this work?02:29
SmaugSeveas: I got it from ubuntuforums02:29
lizardcrybob2, I believe I would then be able to run ubuntu on my amd64.02:29
SeveasSmaug, that does not mean it does not suck02:29
dachnaz_Ah ha. That makes sense. Thankee.02:29
lizardcrybob2, it freezes hard02:29
someotherguytarheelcoxn: Nope, it goes through all the module initialization and everything, with the progress bar and such, then the screen clears to the flashing underscore in the top left, it flashes a few times, then freezes and starts beeping.02:29
lizardcrybob2, fresh install02:29
necatorwhat is metacity? does ubuntu breezy have it? i see it mentioned on gnome-look.or02:29
Seveasthere's a lot of crap on the forums02:29
bob2lizardcry: does trying noapic/nolapic/acpi=off help? (kernel boot options)02:29
SmaugSeveas: But I'm totally new to linux. I'm sorry if I use something you don't like. But I trusted the people at ubuntuforums02:29
bob2necator: yes, it's the default window manager for gnome02:29
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Aurorabob2,  DocumentRoot    /home/aurora/Projects/02:29
lizardcrybob2, did that02:29
Seveasthere's good stuff too, but you need to be careful02:29
codecainewindow manager02:29
bob2necator: ie it draws window borders02:29
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JasonOfEarthbob2 is my hero!02:29
bob2lizardcry: even all 3 doesn't help?02:29
lizardcrybob2, i'm on gentoo now02:30
thoreauputicnecator: it's the default underlying window manager for gnome02:30
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: can you type CTRL+ALT+F2 and get a prompt?02:30
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lizardcrybob2, I swear. I did ALL 302:30
bob2Aurora: and the output of 'ls -ld /home/{,aurora/{,Projects}}' to #flood02:30
dachnaz_Here's another pop quiz: Where can I find SSHD? Or is there a better way to access this from another location?02:30
Fr0Gswhere do i get the latest worken fglrx drives02:30
bob2lizardcry: how odd02:30
Fr0Gswhere do i get the latest worken fglrx drivers02:30
someotherguyShould I try it while it's initializing, or right now while it's frozen?02:30
bob2dachnaz_: install the openssh-server package02:30
lizardcrybob2, it's making me ill at my stomach02:30
oskudeubout tell oskude about demoscene.tv02:30
LathropWellsJasonOfEarth, - yep mine too there are some great people here,02:30
necatorso changing my "metacity" would change how my folders look?02:30
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: right now02:30
bob2Fr0Gs: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:30
oskudeubotu tell oskude about demoscene.tv02:30
bob2necator: no, window borders02:30
someotherguytarheelcoxn: k, brb02:30
lizardcrybob2, i have an ati 980002:30
tarheelcoxndachnaz_: openssh-server02:30
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bob2lizardcry: that shouldn't matter02:30
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Koriowhich repos do i need to ad to get mplayer?02:31
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necatorso metacity and gtk 2.x then do the same thing?02:31
someotherguytarheelcoxn: Yes, it gave me a login prompt.02:31
bob2lizardcry: you've compiled a kernel from scratch before?02:31
Seveas!forget demoscene.tv02:31
ubotui forgot demoscene.tv, Seveas02:31
bob2necator: no02:31
someotherguytarheelcoxn: that's a good sign.02:31
micropa1I'm trying to do a multiseat install with the newest ubuntu, however nothing happens when I press enter on the "configure a multiseat system" in the installer. Any tips?02:31
lizardcrybob2, similar probs in gentoo, but disappeared after upgrade to 2.6.13 kernel02:31
bob2necator: I keep saying, "window borders", you keep hearing "widgets"02:31
LathropWellskorio - univers community supported02:31
lizardcrybob2, gentoo ... i compile everythinh02:31
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: you have a problem with xorg02:31
necatorbob2 im new at all this i dont really knwo the terms of differences of any of it :p02:31
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tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: login at that login prompt02:31
someotherguytarheelcoxn: brb02:31
dachnaz_bob2: Where can I find this package?02:32
bob2necator: window borders = window title bar, border, resize handles, etc02:32
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KorioLathropWells, weird I have that one enabled and yet i dont see mplayer02:32
dnBdoes anyone know how i can do the equivalent to "chkconfig squid on"02:32
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bob2necator: widgets = buttons, text in the window, file selection screens, etc02:32
necatorso gtk does widgets?02:32
bob2dachnaz_: you've never installed a package in ubuntu?02:32
thoreauputicKorio:  multiverse02:32
necatorand metacity does borders02:32
tarheelcoxndachnaz_: adept02:32
bob2dachnaz_: squid runs by default when installed02:32
bob2necator: more or less02:32
sunshine82bob2 what u think02:32
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Koriothoreauputic, got that too02:32
thoreauputic!info mplayer-38602:32
someotherguytarheelcoxn: There, logged in.02:32
necatordo either of those control icons?02:32
dnBbob2, thanks ;)02:32
GrugSo video drivers seem very difficult to install... is it any easier to install Audigy 2 drivers?02:32
ubotumplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3729 kB, Installed size: 8268 kB02:32
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bob2sunshine82: looks like the driver itself is broken02:33
LathropWellsthoreauputic, - mplayer is non-free?02:33
bob2Grug: video drivers are trivial02:33
funkyHatnecator, no02:33
thoreauputicKorio: apt-cache search mplayer02:33
funkyHatnecator, that's nautilus02:33
dachnaz_No, bob2, never installed one on Ubuntu.02:33
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: now cd /var/log02:33
thoreauputicLathiat: I assume it's about codecs etc02:33
bob2Korio: it's in multiverse, wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:33
bob2dachnaz_: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto02:33
Koriomga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source)02:33
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Koriothats what i find02:33
andreiutzwhat is the root passwd for the ubuntu live cd ??02:33
thoreauputicoops LathropWells that was fro you not Lathiat02:33
someotherguytarheelcoxn: done.02:33
Grugtrivial?  compiling and interface to the kernel is trivial?  wow... now I'm *really* afraid to ask about sound drivers lol02:33
Seveasandreiutz, there is none02:33
Aurorabob2, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/42729402:33
Seveas!tell andreiutz about root02:33
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: ls should show you that there's a log for Xorg02:34
someotherguytarheelcoxn: Irritatingly enough the computer is in the other room, so I have to keep running around.02:34
bob2Aurora: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:34
bob2Grug: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:34
dnBwhen typing "sudo squid restart" i get the msg "/etc/dansguardian/languages" any ideas? :P02:34
bob2Grug: installing them doesn't require any compilation02:34
dachnaz_bob2, Thanks.02:34
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dnB"squid already running"02:34
bob2dnB: do you mean 'sudo invoke-rc.d squid restart' or 'sudo /etc/init.d/squid restart'?02:35
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: in that case, what you want to do is this:02:35
someotherguytarheelcoxn: Xorg.0.log02:35
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tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log > xorg.log02:35
bob2Aurora: guess we need the end of apache2' error.log and your /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default02:35
dnBbob2, lol i have no idea02:35
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: then post xorg.log somewhere where we can see it02:35
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bob2dnB: the command you gave will more or less do nothing useful02:35
Koriodeb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse i have that in sources.list and yet i cant find mplayer02:35
bob2dnB: either of the ones I mentioned will restarts02:35
bob2Korio: get rid of that, for a start02:36
Aurorawhere would error.log be?02:36
dnBbob2, thanks again, you help helpful man02:36
Koriobob2,  why?02:36
bob2Korio: then actually read the page I pointed you at, and enable the universe repository02:36
bob2er, multivser02:36
Grugwell i guess i'm going to try that link bob - thanks02:36
bob2dnB: np02:36
Auroraand whats rootsudo got to do with anything?02:36
bob2Aurora: /var/log/apache2/02:36
someotherguytarheelcoxn: Well, it said access denied, which makes me assume I have to su first.02:36
bob2Aurora: that would be me sucking, sorry02:36
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: before you go02:36
someotherguytarheelcoxn: Also, how could I post it?02:36
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: do you have a webspace to post it to?02:36
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: perfect02:37
krogoth64do the default packages for the dhcp and bind servers chroot them?02:37
Koriobob2, that link was for warty, and i dont run gnome02:37
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: upload xorg.log to your webspace02:37
bob2krogoth64: bind9, yes, dunno about dhcp (there's more than one of them)02:37
bob2Korio: awesome02:37
bob2Korio: #kubuntu, I guess (and it' snot just for warty)02:37
Koriobob2, i run xfce..02:37
necatori found this really nice icon package on gnome-look.org02:38
bob2Korio: then presumably you know how to use aptitude or apt02:38
necatorbut the download dont work.02:38
someotherguytarheelcoxn: I don't believe the network connection on that computer is working right.02:38
necatorjust my luck02:38
krogoth64the dhcp3-server package?02:38
dachnaz_Alright. Thanks!! ^^02:38
Koriobob2, yes?02:38
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krogoth64it doesn't look like the init script does it02:38
someotherguytarheelcoxn: But I'll hack away at it and hope for the best.02:38
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bob2Korio: so read /etc/apt/sources.list and tell it to enable multiverse (the file explains how)02:38
kinkoblastWhat's everyone's favorite windowmanager? Mine's xfce.02:38
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: I recommend joining #xorg02:38
bob2krogoth64: I don't think it does, no02:38
Aurorabob2, oh duh, i forgot to change the permissions of the .htaccesses, dang hidden files, thanks for your help i think i can figure it from here :)02:38
someotherguytarheelcoxn: thanks for all your help, I'll be back.02:38
Koriobob2, well thats what I did before I even came to this channel02:38
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tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: best of luck!02:38
bob2kinkoblast: ion3.02:38
bob2Korio: if you had, mplayer would be available02:38
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tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: getting that box on the internet will be a BIG first step02:39
bob2Korio: perhaps now you should just show it to us, so we can tell you which line is incorrect02:39
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bob2Aurora: np02:39
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someotherguytarheelcoxn: Oh, by the way, what's the default admin password, I don't remember having to set one.02:39
krogoth64bob2: do you know what part of the init script does the chroot?02:40
kinkoblastsomeotherguy: There isn't one.02:40
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ubotuhmm... rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo02:40
thoreauputic!tell someotherguy about sudo02:40
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doogluskrogoth64: debbootstrap?02:40
bob2krogoth64: for bind9, you mean?02:40
someotherguyI just tried to su and it asked for a password.02:40
bob2let me check on my nameserver02:40
bluefoxicyPrinting: Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE02:40
doogluskrogoth64: sorry - ignore that :)02:40
Koriobob2, u got pm02:40
thoreauputicsomeotherguy: read what th e bot sent you in msg02:40
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thoreauputicsomeotherguy: ubuntu uses sudo02:41
bob2Korio: #flood or pastebin.ca02:41
bob2(and the irc server blocked your message, anyway)02:41
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: best of luck!02:41
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siconhiya, so uh, I started to install ubuntu, and i rebooted like it said, it finished installing packages then apparently started X ... but it froze at that point. the problem is i have not had the opportunity to set root pass so ctrl+alt+f1 and logging in does no good without root02:41
bob2sicon: wtf02:42
bob2sicon: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:42
Koriobob2, http://pastebin.ca/2850502:42
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bob2thoreauputic: haha02:42
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siconbob2: i am not following, i know what sudo is ...02:43
bob2Korio: line 19, add multiverse to the end of it02:43
siconbob2: the install never finished02:43
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bob2sicon: ok02:43
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dooglussicon: you have a user account with permission to sudo to root...02:43
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dnBcan anyone point me in the right direction? id like a user account to automatically log out after a predefined idle time02:44
dooglussicon: if not, you can boot into rescue mode and get root that way02:44
siconahh it automatically adds me to sudoer list02:44
sicondooglus: i have never installed ubunto so i am not sure if everything finished installing correctly02:44
Koriothx bob202:44
navynhey nalioth, i rebooted and everything works now02:44
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dooglussicon: it automatically adds you to the admin group, and all members of the admin group can sudo to root02:44
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PJeremyhow do i make a softlink from motifwrapper to libXm.so ?02:45
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dooglusPJeremy: ln -s libXm.so motifwrapper02:45
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sicondooglus: see my problem though? apparently X is running, i hear the drum sound but I am not seeing a desktop :-o02:45
PJeremydooglus: with directories i assume?02:45
dooglussicon: control-alt-F1 ?02:45
OrbordeIs there a shortcut key to switch between GNOME workspaces?02:46
dooglusPJeremy: if you like :)02:46
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siconyeah i am logged in and sudo'd a shell02:46
PJeremydooglus: well, is it necessary? ;)02:46
bob2Orborde: dunny if there is a default, but you can set one02:46
thoreauputicOrborde:  ctrl-alt-arrow02:46
zblachcan one recommend a program like winamp (with internet radio stations)?02:46
sicondooglus: but i am unsure why X isn't displaying, yet the X server IS running, i know the vid card supports it, as i just took openbsd off it ...02:46
dooglusPJeremy: you could cd to the directory you want to make the link in first.02:46
krogoth64why doesn't the disk manager send the mount configuration?02:46
server_newbieI am having big problems setting up shorewall & knockd and get them to work togther can someone spend a few minutes to help me ?02:46
dooglusPJeremy: then, if the link and the target are in the same directory you need not specify directories02:47
dooglussicon: you may need to fiddle with /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:47
thoreauputiczblach:  sudo apt-get install streamtuner xmms streamripper02:47
Orbordethoreauputic / bob2 : Thanks02:47
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siconhmmm ... this could be interesting, i have 3 displays, i normally use Xorg --configure but ok02:47
zblachi have xmms, but streamtuner and streamripper?02:47
PJeremydooglus: that would be the motif one ? and no, they're not, libxm is in /usr/lib and motifwrapper is in /usr/lib/opera/plugins02:47
thoreauputicdamn caps lock02:47
thoreauputicsorry for the noise people02:48
zblachthoreauputic, ok, thank.s thought that was a warning.02:48
bob2server_newbie: you need to be more specific02:48
dooglusPJeremy: so I would run "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libxm /usr/lib/opera/plugins/whateveritwascalled"02:48
thoreauputiczblach: I just hit the wrong key, sorry :|02:48
PJeremydooglus: alrighty, thanks02:48
dooglusPJeremy: (only with more correct paths)02:48
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zblachthoreauputic, no problem02:50
thoreauputiczblach: streamtuner uses xmms by default - you can use other players like bee--media-player or whatever you like02:50
KorioI dont get picture while streaming with mplayer in firefox but I get no sound02:50
zblachnow, will streamtuner use xmms?02:50
zblachoh, thanks.02:50
KorioI mean. i do get picture but no sound02:50
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Zealot87does anyone run windows on a dual boot?02:51
server_newbiebob2 I have tries to set up the shorewall conf files firewall works, and so does the knock how ever the port won't open02:51
thoreauputiczblach: streamripper integrates with streamtuner and allow you to rip from radio02:51
necatorhow do i install a metacity theme i downloaded from gnome-look.org02:51
b1n0ryif i'm unable to use the LiveCD, might i have success with a full install or should i not waste my time?02:51
PJeremydooglus: what should it say if it was successful? should it say "blabla file exists" ?02:51
dooglusPJeremy: it should be quiet02:51
necatorzealot87 i currently run windows on a dual boot02:52
thoreauputicnecator: open the themes dialog and drag th etar ball onto it02:52
PJeremydooglus: well, it tells me that motifwrapper exists, quite obviously it does..02:52
soundrayb1n0ry, it depends on what the problem was with the live CD.02:52
thoreauputicnecator: then check the "details" tab02:52
dooglusPJeremy: sounds like you already either have the link you want, or an alternative file of the same name02:52
bob2server_newbie: why are you using knockd at all?02:52
zorinb1n0ry did you burn the disk as a image02:53
PJeremydooglus: well, if i had the link, motifwrapper would find libXm..02:53
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server_newbieI don't want open ports , but I want to geto ssh and ftp02:53
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b1n0rysoundray it got to a point where it was "Entering Preinstalled Session" gave me a red screen and then presented me with a menu that asked me to try again (or choose another step of the process)02:53
dooglusPJeremy: run "ls -l /usr/lib/opera/whatever" - what's that show you?02:53
b1n0ryzorin yeah, disk was fine.02:53
thoreauputicserver_newbie: to run services, ports *have* to listen02:53
dooglusthoreauputic: I think that's the point - with 'knockd' they don't...02:54
necatorthx thoreauputic that worked . does the same process apply to icons?02:54
zorinb1n0rywhat version is the disk02:54
jessicaNZhow do I get ubuntu to automaticly mount my windows (vfat) partition so that normal users can write to it?02:54
thoreauputicnecator: haven't tried it - worth a try02:54
b1n0ryzorin most recent, i believe. i downloaded it yesterday from the website.02:54
PJeremydooglus: -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 77520 2005-09-16 12:14 /usr/lib/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-302:54
dooglusPJeremy: that's a file...02:54
thoreauputicnecator: icon themes live in ~/.icons IIRC02:54
dooglusPJeremy: try an 'ls -l' on the thing you're trying to link to as well02:55
bob2server_newbie: er, you're being silly02:55
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Zealot87necator, i cant get the windows installer to install on an unpartitioned amount of space02:55
bob2server_newbie: just use shorewall and forget about knockd02:55
thoreauputicnecator: but there they have to be uncompresed02:55
Zealot87necator, so i tell it to create a partition that will work with windows, and it still tells me that it doesnt work02:55
bob2server_newbie: ssh with rsa keys is effectively unbreakable, ftp is so insecure that it's not worth bothering with02:55
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soundrayb1n0ry, is this a very recent machine?02:56
server_newbiebob2 how do I gets files02:56
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b1n0rysoundray it's about a year old02:56
soundrayb1n0ry, standard hardware?02:56
bob2server_newbie: rsync, sftp, scp02:56
bob2server_newbie: they all work over ssh02:56
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dooglusserver_newbie: you can use 'scp'02:57
MrFartswow. this is nice02:57
b1n0rysoundray pretty much. only thing that most machines don't have is the live drive for my SB card02:57
MrFartsLiveCd works perfectly02:57
MrFartsi'm impressed02:57
PJeremydooglus: http://pastebin.com/42731002:57
soundrayb1n0ry, don't know what that is, but it shouldn't affect your graphics.02:57
bluefoxicyMr_Milenko:  the livecd sets up X automatically; on an Ubuntu install, if you change from an nVidia video card to a Radeon, X refuses to start and you have to reinstall.02:57
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bluefoxicyMrFarts:  I'd say the livecds are more perfect than the base ubuntu install :)02:57
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soundrayb1n0ry, which is where your problem may lie.02:58
b1n0rysoundray nope, it doesn't. standard on-board nvidia card. i never got to a graphical screen.02:58
jorge_if my windows is on hda1, how can I put it in the boot menu02:58
jorge_cause it's not showing it02:58
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MrFartsbluefoxicy, why's that ?02:58
b1n0rysoundray ubuntu doesn't work with SB cards?02:58
bluefoxicyMrFarts:  Well, you don't have to reinstall; you can go through the shell, vim /etc/X11R6/xorg.conf and set it up; but a noob would reinstall02:58
server_newbiebob2: is there a set of conf files out there pre-conf for shorewall ?02:58
dooglusPJeremy: maybe you want to move that plugin out the way and then put in the link in its place02:58
bob2server_newbie: /usr/share/doc/shorewall/02:58
necatorzealot87 install your windows first.02:58
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bluefoxicyisn't it sad?02:58
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jorge_how can i mount a drive02:58
necatorzealot87 then your linux. windows dosent like to share with others.02:58
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lightbrightI just ordered 5 CD ubuntu02:59
soundrayb1n0ry, if SB is SoundBlaster, it does.02:59
MrFartsbluefoxicy, i want to install just to see how the installer works02:59
Elocksorry to bother everyone, but how do I change the password for my root account?02:59
lightbrightwill this be latest ubunt with latest kernel and kde and gnome?02:59
bluefoxicyMrFarts:  go for it.  DOn't hurt yourself though : )02:59
b1n0rysoundray it is. the "non-standard" device is just the drive-bay extension of the Audigy2 card.02:59
bob2Elock: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:59
thoreauputicbluefoxicy: the path you gave for xorg.conf is sad too ( try /etc/X11/xorg.conf )02:59
bluefoxicyMrFarts:  you've installed an OS before right?  :>02:59
vader1102Have a question here, other than evolution, what is a good email program with a calendar?02:59
soundrayb1n0ry, have you tried different boot options?02:59
server_newbieThanks bob202:59
bob2Elock: it's in the FAQ, and the installer also prompted you to say you'd read it during the install02:59
bluefoxicythoreauputic: yeah.  Doesn't cahnge the issue though.02:59
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PJeremydooglus: well, opera uses motifwrapper-3, but can't find it for some odd reason, now i read in a forum entry that someone softlinked them..02:59
MrFartsbluefoxicy, i've been using linux since about 1993 :)03:00
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soundrayb1n0ry, specifically the ones referring to graphics/framebuffers etc.03:00
bluefoxicyMrFarts:  Ah, ok.03:00
Elockbob2: thanks03:00
lightbrighti just ordered 5 CDs! will this be latest ubunt with latest kernel and kde and gnome?03:00
vader1102Evolution crashes when I use the calendar ;-(03:00
jorge_does anybody have windows on their pc too?03:00
b1n0rysoundray you think the problem might be video card related?03:00
bluefoxicyCan someone please help me with samba before I kill something?03:00
bob2lightbright: yes...03:00
jorge_i need to look at what the windows entry looks like in the grub config03:00
MrFartsbluefoxicy, the days of manual xf86 modelines :)03:00
bob2bluefoxicy: not unless you ask an actual question03:00
MrFartsthat was fu03:00
soundrayb1n0ry, that's most likely from the limited information there is.03:01
soundrayb1n0ry, unless you had any other clues.03:01
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soundrayb1n0ry, answering your original question:03:01
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bluefoxicybob2:  Alright.  I installed samba on a remote machine with a printer; entered user rusty <password> here, it listed the printer in gnome's cups configurator, I selected it.03:01
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MrFartsi like thi03:01
bluefoxicybob2:  Printing a testpage changes the status to "Printing: Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE"03:01
MrFartsfeels like BSD03:01
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soundrayb1n0ry, you would invest about 40 min, there being 10 min of actual work.03:01
someotherguytarheelcoxn: I figured it out!03:01
bluefoxicybob2:  solve for obvious problems.03:01
b1n0rysoundray the livecd went through scanning for the hardware, then the nice blue boot-loader screen went red said "Failed Entering Preinstalled Session" then gave me a menu with about 20 options on it to choose the next step of the installation process. all the info i have.03:02
Cry_Mac_UbuntuHow do I check my ip?03:02
soundrayb1n0ry, after that, you will very likely have a system where at least the command line works.03:02
bluefoxicybob2:  and yes I already usurped root on the samba server over there and smbpasswd -e rusty03:02
MrFartsCry_Mac_Ubuntu, ifcnfig03:02
MrFartsCry_Mac_Ubuntu, ifcconfig03:02
someotherguytarheelcoxn:Apparently my stupid roommate put a second videocard in when I wasn't looking, and I didn't notice it...it was loading x on it.03:02
b1n0rysoundray then i could try to get x working... that what you're getting at?03:02
soundrayb1n0ry, exactly.03:02
b1n0rysoundray does ubuntu use xfree or x11-xorg?03:02
soundrayb1n0ry, xorg03:02
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b1n0rysoundray that's what i was hoping :)03:03
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b1n0rysoundray i've gotten half decent at configuring xorg03:03
soundrayb1n0ry, problem could be the CD too.03:03
soundrayb1n0ry, don't know how pressed you are for time, but I know I would try.03:03
Cry_Mac_Ubuntuhow do I make linux request a new ip address?03:03
PJeremyjorge_: did you get the query about grub?03:03
b1n0rysoundray i doubt it. cd worked fine on a virtual machine. i also verified the media from the aforementioned menu03:03
superchodeifdown, ifup03:04
bluefoxicyCry_Mac_Ubuntu:  sudo dhclient eth003:04
bob2Cry_Mac_Ubuntu: 'sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0', perhaps.03:04
jorge_PJeremy: yes but, thanks, but I messaged you back03:04
bob2bluefoxicy: that will go terribly wrong if there is an existing daemonized dhclient03:04
Cry_Mac_UbuntuOkay, thanks.03:04
bluefoxicybob2:  really?03:04
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PJeremyjorge_: heh, didn't get anything.03:04
jorge_I'd like to know waht savedefault, chainloader +1, and makeactive does03:04
soundrayb1n0ry, what distribution did you use with xorg, and was that on the same machine?03:04
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b1n0rysoundray no, not the same machine. but with fedora.03:05
bluefoxicybob2:  so no answer on my remote printing issue huh?03:05
bob2bluefoxicy: nope, I don't use samba printing03:05
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PJeremyjorge_: sorry, don't know that, ubuntu set it up during installation.03:05
jorge_Ah, thanks anyways03:05
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jorge_I'll set it up like that too03:06
bob2jorge_: 'info grub', after installigng grub-doc.03:06
necatorhow do i install a sound theme?03:06
b1n0rysoundray as soon as i finish backing up this drive i'm going to wipe out, i'm going to give it a try.03:06
MrFartsman, i wish i had heard of this earlier03:06
MrFartsthis is sweet03:07
MrFartseverything i want03:07
b1n0ryare there any known issues with dual-booting windows xp if the two OS's reside on different drives?03:07
soundrayb1n0ry, hope you can get it to run.03:07
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vader1102Has anyone had Evolution crash after opening the calendar?03:07
vader1102using Breezy03:07
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ubotujusttestingandso: No idea03:08
ubotujusttestingandso: Are you smoking crack?03:08
thoreauputicjusttestingandso: *cough*03:08
necatordoes anyone know how to install a sound theme from gnome-look.org ?03:08
Zealot87necator, then how do you install ubuntu afterwords so that you can choose which one to boot?03:09
justtestingandsoi somehow registered my nick (oskude) and the command was given by ubotu, but the command didnt as for password, so i cant use my nick. DOH03:09
necatorzealot87 do u mean after windows is already installed?03:09
MrFartsis there an ms core fonts package for ubuntu ?03:10
soundrayb1n0ry, I haven't tried this myself but would expect no problem.03:10
necatorzealot87 ubuntu will detect that windows is there and ask you if u want to install a boot loader.03:10
ubotuplease don't /msg people or start a personal message/ dcc chat without asking first in channel. People might be busy, and you have a better chance of an answer in the channel. Don't assume a particular user will be able to help you.03:10
necatorzealot87 then when your comp turns on b4 an os loads youll get like a window that lists all your os unbutu and windows03:10
StevenKMrFarts: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/msttcorefonts03:10
jorge_im gonna try out my new grub file03:10
jorge_hope it works :S03:10
necatorzealot87 and u just pick one with arrow keys and press enter and it boots into that.03:10
soundrayb1n0ry, older Win versions were particular about wanting to be on the first HD, so you could arrange it like that to be on the safe side.03:10
necatorzealot87 ubuntu will know how to work with windows once its installed its just windows dosent know how to work with linux.03:10
MrFartsStevenK, thanks03:11
Zealot87necator, ok thanks, i guess i will have to reinstall ubuntu and windows then03:11
necatorzealot87 thats y u install the windows first cuss the ubuntu will know what to do with the windows when its intalled. just pay close attention to the ubuntu installers wizard.03:11
Zealot87why what will it say?03:11
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necatorzealot87 im not sure if thats the only way possible im new at this stuff my self but from what i know i belive thats how it has to be done.03:11
justtestingandsook, i didnt read it comlete http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup, doh03:12
Zealot87necator, ok thanks for the help, i will try tonight03:12
necatorzealot87 when ubuntu is installing and its partitioing it self its going to recongize the windows partion and ask u if u want to destroy it or install ubuntu in the free space03:12
necatorzealot87 after u install ubuntu and leave the windows part intact then it will ask u if u want to install a boot loader and u say yes.03:12
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MrFartsbtw, does ubuntu include qt libs ?03:14
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dabaRMrFarts: why not have a non farts nick?03:14
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StevenKMrFarts: I expect so.03:14
MrFartsdabaR, why not have a non-lame nick ?03:14
dabaRMrFarts: ok sorry03:15
soundraySomeone stinks.03:15
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dabaRMrFarts: /msg ubotu ask the bot03:15
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dabaRMrFarts: /msg ubotu find qt03:15
sazwerxhelp.. anyone here knows how to setup CDMA phone by Qualcomm?03:15
dabaRor libqt.~, or apt-cache search libqt, or aptitude search libqt03:16
Zealot87ok gotcha gotcha, it makes sense03:16
Zealot87necator, will do thanks for the help!03:16
necatorcan someone tell me what this means03:16
necatorno problem zealot8703:16
necatorzealot87 good luck03:16
MrFartsseems like something03:16
necatorcan someone tell me what this means03:16
Zealot87hehe thanks03:16
necatorIMPORTANT! You must do 'su' with the '-p' flag in order to preserve your home dir variable while running as superuser)03:16
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dduckoDont run as superuser?03:16
necatori dont understand what thats telling me :p03:16
MrFartsyou know the only thing that i don't like about ubuntu so far is the stupid logo03:16
necatori dont know what -p or home varibale is03:17
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MrFartsi don't care to see politically correct black people :)03:17
dabaRMrFarts: I hate ubuntu.03:17
dduckoIts telling that if your usuing the su03:17
MrFartsdabaR, the logo or the distribution?03:17
necatorwhat if i use sudo dducko?03:17
necatorcuss i dont know what su does either03:17
dabaRMrFarts: anything to do with it.03:17
daveany1 hlep me installing wine pm me pls03:17
daveany1 hlep me installing wine pm me pls03:17
dduckothat unless you use the -p  you cant hit cd  to go home directory03:17
MrFartsdabaR, why are you in an ubuntu channel then03:17
dduckoor use ~ as your home directory in lines03:18
necatorsudo apt-get install wine03:18
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MrFartsdabaR, and what do you hate about it exactly ?03:18
necatori think thats all u have to do03:18
dduckosudo keeps it, unless you do sudo  -s I believe03:18
dabaRdave: enable universe, "sudo aptitude install wine" in a terminal03:18
dduckonot sure03:18
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dabaRMrFarts: stop trolling me.03:18
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MrFartsdabaR, ok, whatever03:18
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necatorwhere is the themes folder located?03:19
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dabaRnecator: for what wm?03:20
DMJChow do you set samba to run at boot?03:20
DMJCthe machine is headless03:20
b1n0ryDMJC ntsysv03:20
b1n0ryDMJC lets you select the services you want to start at boot03:21
necatorwhats a wm ?03:21
thoreauputicDMJC: smba should run at bot by default03:21
necatorim tryin to install a sound package i downloaded.03:21
DMJChmm k03:21
b1n0rynecator window manager, such as gnome or kde03:21
b1n0rynecator wait, i lied03:21
thoreauputicDMJC:  /etc/init.d/samba03:21
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dabaRb1n0ry: gnome or kde are not wms, but ok...03:22
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b1n0rynecator those would be desktop managers03:22
dabaRhaha, nice:)03:22
b1n0ryor rather 'desktop environments'03:22
myrth_how do i install nvidia-glx on kubuntu?03:22
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dabaRnecator: well, download the file off the net, and install it through the gui, or something.03:23
necatordabar ya i cant figure out how.03:23
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b1n0rynecator still 'wm' = window manager such as twm, used to handle the ways that windows interact with X03:23
MrFartshow can i search for a package in a repository ?03:23
necatordabar i have the file already just dont know how to install it.03:23
b1n0rydabaR did i redeem myself? ;)03:23
dabaRnecator: tried system prefs themes?03:24
thoreauputicMrFarts: erm - apt-cache search <keywords>   ?03:24
necatorya dosent work in there dabar03:24
MrFartsthomhash, thanks03:24
davecan u read windows partitions under ubuntu?03:24
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thoreauputicdave: yes03:24
davewhere they at ? lol03:24
FR500is there a scanning program with a better gui than xsane? i mean, it's great but is far from being intuitive03:24
thoreauputic!tell dave about mountwindows03:24
dabaRnecator: http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q2 ?03:24
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thoreauputicFR500: I think you can use the GIMP for scanning (havne' got a scanner here)03:25
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thoreauputicFR500: KDE has kooka IIRC03:26
MrFartswhat in the world is vmware player ?03:26
nybbzhey, having problems resizing ntfs partition. is it even possible using the ubuntu installer?03:26
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glickdamn is there anything i can do if my landlord is beating around the bush when i request him to turn on my heat?03:26
Siph0n!tell Siph0n about mountwindows03:26
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glickit apartment has been freezing for two weeks, when i asked him03:26
FR500thomhash, kk, gonna check em out03:27
dabaRglick: ya, offer ubuntu.03:27
glickhow about i offer him a court summons03:27
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whynotworkhmm, a little off-topic. i registered my nick (oskude) with "/msg nickserv register <password>" and relogged with it (password set in xchat preferences for that server) login went ok and freenode authorized me. but still "oskude" cant post on this channel ?!?!?!03:27
glickif i get a cold im sueing his ass03:27
dabaRright, that works too.03:27
thoreauputicglick: promise not to burn his house down? *grin*03:27
trincamckeehttp://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7766/multiplexfce0fa.jpg , as u can see i have 2 xfce entries listed, how can i delete one of them?03:27
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FR500thoreauputic, kooka looks good, to bad it's kde03:28
FR500looks to different03:29
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thoreauputictrincamckee: edit (delete)  the *.desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions03:29
mmiikkee12what's the difference between hard and symblic links?03:29
fanopnaicwhynotwork: are you sure you were authorized?03:29
whynotworkfanopnaic, 100% sure03:29
thoreauputictrincamckee: there will be two - I asume you want to keep the xfce4 one03:29
trincamckeethoreauputic, but "xsession" is a folder or a script?03:29
thoreauputicit'sa dirctory03:30
trincamckeeactualy i want that is selected03:30
thoreauputictrincamckee: cd /usr/shar/xsessions ; ls03:30
fanopnaicwhynotwork: because you have a n= prefix on your ident, and I think that means that you are not identified :)03:30
thoreauputic* /usr/share/xsessions03:30
ssdd534how do i make my ubuntu rereconize the hardware like it did during the install?03:30
trincamckeei dont have that dolder03:30
whynotworkfanopnaic, i copy the messages, brb03:30
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thoreauputictrincamckee: are you using KDM ?03:31
trincamckeesorry my mistake03:31
trincamckeei have03:31
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leeroyHi, I am trying to install a dual boot of xp and ubuntu 5.10 on my system.  It has two harddrives, one of which is hooked up through ata, and the other of which is hooked up through a pci card with more ata slots.  When I try to install, Windows goes on fine, but then Ubuntu sort of messes things up by popping up the error of "Cannot find operating system".  Any ideas as to the source of this?03:31
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thoreauputictrincamckee: it has files in it - delete the one you don't want03:31
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ssdd534how do i make my second cdrom that i just added auto mount?03:32
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dachnaz_Why does my password suddenly not work?03:32
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mmiikkee12ssdd534: remove noauto from fstab03:32
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ssdd534mmiikkee12, thanks03:32
myrth_argh... installed nvidia-glx, and now all the fonts are huge - where do i change dpi in kubuntu?03:32
mmiikkee12wait, did you mean at boot or when you put a cd in?03:32
punkassis there away to install grub to the root partition after ubuntu has been installed?03:32
thoreauputicssdd534: did you put an entry in /etc/fstab for it?03:33
fanopnaicoskude: working now?03:33
dachnaz_Why doesn't my password work?03:33
trincamckeetank u it worked03:33
mmiikkee12dachnaz_: login as root and do passwd yourname03:33
thoreauputictrincamckee: :)03:33
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leeroyAny idea why installing a dual boot with Ubuntu causes the error, "Unable to find operating system" at bootup?03:33
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mmiikkee12what's the difference between hard and symbolic links?03:34
dachnaz_mmiikkee12, no such thing as root in Ubuntu.03:34
mmiikkee12yes there is03:34
mmiikkee12it just isn't as hard to get to03:34
thoreauputicleeroy: the only time I've seen that it was a BIOS issue - try resetting the BIOS to defaults03:34
dachnaz_No, there isn't...03:34
dachnaz_If there is then how do I get to it?03:34
dooglusI have "n=" in front of my name whether I'm registered or not03:34
mmiikkee12sudo passwd and then su03:34
leeroyI have two harddrives, one of which is IDE, and the other is hooked up through a PCI card, could that make a difference?03:34
mmiikkee12the root pswd is your password03:35
necatordachnaz_ u can create it.03:35
myrth_anyone can tell me where do i change in kubuntu gui screen dpi?03:35
dachnaz_You guys don't get it.03:35
mmiikkee12there is a root03:35
dachnaz_ I need the password to do these things! And it doesn't work!03:35
fanopnaicmmiikkee12: a soft link points to another file. a hard link directly points to the specific piece of data on the harddrive.03:35
dooglusdachnaz_: you can set the root password like this: "sudo passwd"03:35
mmiikkee12it's your password03:35
thoreauputic!tell dachnaz_ about root03:35
fanopnaicmmiikkee12: (simplified)  see http://www.google.com/search?&q=difference%20soft%20link%20hard%20link03:35
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necatordachnaz_ use the password you used for your login account.03:35
dachnaz_dooglus, Dammit it asks me for a password and it doesn't WORK!03:35
FR500thoreauputic, when i plug my scanner i gotta change permissions manually to access it (like chmod 666 /proc/bus/usb/003/005 or something alike, is there a way to make it set like that automatically?03:36
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thoreauputicdachnaz_: read what the bot sent you03:36
myrth_dachnaz_: are you putting your regular user password?03:36
dooglusdachnaz_: I was disputing your "there's no root account in ubuntu" outrage :)03:36
dachnaz_How thick can you guys get...03:36
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uboturoot is, like, disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo03:36
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dooglusnecator: he's forgotten his user's password - or someone's changed it for him03:36
dachnaz_I am using my regular user password. It does NOT work.03:36
thoreauputicFR500: probably - I don't know03:36
necatordachnaz_ your the thick one. we trying to help your thick skull03:36
leeroyDon't bite the hand that feeds you...03:36
necatordooglus he thinks he needs another password called root.03:36
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dooglusdachnaz_: maybe you've got capslock on.  or maybe you changed to a czech keyboard layout03:36
necatordooglus we are telling him his usr accoutn is the root password.03:36
dooglusnecator: I don't think he does.03:36
thoreauputicdachnaz_: read the Code of Conduct and please show respect for other users03:37
whynotworkok, i registered my password with "/msg nickserv register <password>" as user "oskude", logout and set my "nickserv password" in xchat for freenode server. on login i get "Password accepted - you are now recognized: services. sets mode +e oskude: You have no new memos" and then i "/join #ubuntu" and when saying something i get "#ubuntu :Cannot send to channel", wtf ?03:37
necatordooglus if he does sudo he will be fine03:37
dooglusdachnaz_: can you log in as yourself still?03:37
mmiikkee12rm -Rf / and reinstall :) (jk)03:37
intelikeydachnaz_ are you needing to know how to reset your password ?03:37
necatordooglus but hes rude no point helping him.03:37
dachnaz_dooglus, no I cannot03:37
myrth_guys, where do i change dpi?03:37
myrth_of screen03:37
dachnaz_intelikey, This is probably necessary.03:37
dooglusnecator: I think he's being rude 'cos he's frustrated that everyone is answering a question that he didn't ask :)03:38
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necatordooglus i think someone did tell him that solution first and he said it was wrong so we told him another one.03:38
dooglusnecator: boot into rescue mode and reset your password from there if it really has changed.03:38
leeroyIs there a way to install linux first, and then to install Windows alongside it?03:38
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dooglusnecator: try typing it at the command prompt to see if it looks right03:39
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thoreauputicleeroy: yes, but the other way round is easier03:39
myrth_leeroy: i think u'll have to reinstall grub after that03:39
_native_leeroy; windows will overwrite grub.03:39
mmiikkee12just have a grub floppy handy, install windows, then boot the floppy and reinstall03:39
ssdd534ok i tryed adding my new cdrom to fstab.... but it wont mount03:39
_native_leeroy; which is not good03:39
necatorleeroy easier to go windows first.03:39
ssdd534any way i try to mount it03:39
httpdssim having this problem from a long time ago .. and that is: once i configured pppoe with the pppoeconfig utility .. and from then on, when i boot 2 or 3 ppp instances get created and the connection doesnt route fine .. how can i make this this ubuntu to run only one instance of ppp on bootup ??03:39
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mmiikkee12did you put user in the options?03:40
leeroyOkay, cool03:40
dachnaz_brb then, rebooting into safe mode or whatevers.03:40
necatordooglus im not the one with the password problem he is.03:40
whynotworkdo i have a fraking bug or what ? :)03:40
mmiikkee12ssdd534: what's the error?03:40
dooglusnecator: you all look the same to me, you IRC nicks03:40
ssdd534can not mount specal device /dev/hdd03:40
intelikeydachnaz_ reboot and at the grub prompt (assuming grub)  hit [esc]  then  E  to edit the startup command line.    and add 1  that is the number one   or single  this should boot you into a root console where you can type "passwd <name> "  and set your passwd.  then use 'init 2 ' to continue the normal boot process.03:40
ssdd534it says /dev/hdd dosnt exist03:40
necatorintelikey he isnt here.03:40
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intelikeyyes i'm lagging...03:41
BOBBIEhi how do i change file permissions of a file :?03:41
krogoth64is shorewall the best way to manage iptables?03:41
whynotworkwell, gotta fo help myself (like allways03:41
thoreauputicBOBBIE:  chmod03:42
httpdssBOBBIE: chmod03:42
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dachnaz_Rebooting worked. Wierd shiz.03:42
ssdd534i need to add a new dev to /dev.... how would i do so?03:42
klontji'm trying to change my theme to clearlooks under System->Prefences->Theme ->Install theme. It asks for the location of the theme - where is the theme located-which directory?03:42
intelikeydachnaz_ just rebooting fixed it ?03:43
dachnaz_How can I add something to start when the system starts up? In gentoo it's something like rc-update add fooprog default03:43
httpdssklontj: it show appear if installed from package ..03:43
dachnaz_intelikey, Yeah.03:43
thoreauputicklontj: clearlooks is already installed (in breezy anyway) just click on the icon/picture03:44
dooglusdachnaz_: if it's something little, just add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh03:44
thoreauputicdachnaz_:  update-rc.d03:44
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httpdsshow can i run only 1 instance of pppd on bootup ??03:45
ssdd534i need to add a new dev to /dev.... how would i do so?03:45
necatordachnaz_ not sure if its the same thing but what i do is open my programs then when i log out i press save current setup.03:45
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intelikeyhttpdss remove the symlink in /etc/rc2.d/03:45
dachnaz_so, for instance,  $ update-rc.d /home/dachnaz/ts2/startupscript start runlvl 203:45
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dnBhi, wondering if anyone knows what might cause the mouse pointer to be off from where im actually clicking? (clicks button 2 inches above where pointer appears to be?)03:46
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thoreauputicdachnaz_: erm, update-rc.d is for scripts in /etc/init.d and so on03:47
klontjI click on the picture and nothing happens - shouldn't the brown background color change?03:47
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ssdd534ok... iadded a new cdrom to my system... but it seems there is no /dev/hdd (where the new cdrom is)... what can i do to fix this?03:47
ohmannnnnnickserv sucks. it says my user is regonized but posting in #ubuntu gives me "#ubuntu :Cannot send to channel"03:47
dnBheh, can someone tell me how to make an application load on startup? (dansguardian a webfilter)?03:47
ssdd534dnB System > prefs > sessions03:48
intelikeydachnaz_ i'd 'cp  /home/dachnaz/ts2/startupscript /etc/rc2.d/S99startupaddons03:48
cfacan any1 explain why i can not run make & make clean03:48
thoreauputicklontj: if you mean the desktop - no. You change the wallpaper for that - or do you mean changing themes has no effect on your widgets/ windows etc?03:48
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intelikeycfa installed build essentials ?03:49
thoreauputiccfa: have you installed the "build-esential" package?03:49
klontjsorry - i thought the wallpaper would also change03:49
dnBssdd534, will that work for loading an application that needs sudo on a non sudo account?03:49
cfadont know03:49
thoreauputicbuild-essential (singular)03:49
cfalet me check03:49
dnBfor instance, squid is autoloaded, however isnt listed in the sessions start up03:49
ssdd534dnB... i have no idea... sorry03:49
thoreauputicklontj: to change wallpaper right click the background and choose to change it03:50
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dnBssdd534, thanks ;)03:50
cfathoreauputic, thanx i did not03:50
cfai just did03:50
cmcnamari am a n00b03:50
cmcnamarI just installed Ubuntu yesterday03:50
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klontjthoreauputic : thanks03:51
cmcnamaranyone know how to play mp3's?03:51
intelikeyyesterday would be a good name for the next release......03:51
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thoreauputiccfa: that should help - but make sure you have the right -dev packages as well for what you compile03:51
ohmannnnnIRC SUCKS :)03:51
ubotuI guess mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:51
ShadowpillarHow do I compile a kernel and make it into a .deb?03:52
cmcnamari have a bunch of mp3 files but I can't seem to figure out how to play them...  the only player my computer seems to have is rhythmbox, and it won't let me play mp3's03:52
thoreauputicShadowline: why?03:52
dooglusssdd534: sessions only works when you log in.  he wants it to run at boot.  I would suggest /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh03:52
thoreauputicShadowpillar: ^^^03:52
ohmannnnnis anyone familiar with freenode nickserv ?03:52
ssdd534o oops03:52
ssdd534read that wrong03:52
dooglusdnB: did you see that?  run your webfilter from /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh03:52
cfathoreauputic, i am going to install the madwifi-trunk-r1325-2005111103:52
necatorwhat is a WxWindows application?03:53
ssdd534ok... iadded a new cdrom to my system... but it seems there is no /dev/hdd (where the new cdrom is)... what can i do to fix this?03:53
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dnBdooglus, thanks ;)03:53
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ohmannnnncan u people even see my text ? (again)03:53
thoreauputiccmcnamar: if you read the URL the bot spat out all will be revealed03:54
trincamckeethoreauputic, i  deleted one of those entries but when i log i continue with the 2 xfce entries03:54
myrth_grrr.. i've set in xorg.conf DisplaySize but the fonts are still huge, please someone help me...03:54
intelikeyssdd534 MAKEDEV cdrom  maybe03:54
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thoreauputictrincamckee: that is very odd03:54
trincamckeethats the right dir?03:54
markwopinions on running 32bit?  Not that I need a huge addressable memory space or anything, the box should be _AS_ fast.03:54
ohmannnnnlol, im a ghost oaisjfoweijfwoiefjwoeifjwoiefjwoeifjwoeifj woeifj woeifjw eoifjw oeifj woiefj woiejfwoeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifjw oeifjwoeifj woeifj woiefj woeifj woiefj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj weoifj woeifj w03:55
thoreauputictrincamckee: does the entry reappear in that dir too?03:55
trincamckeedo i have to reboot?03:55
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trincamckeejust to entries on xsession dir03:55
ssdd534intelikey, says it dosnt know how to make the device03:55
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thoreauputicohmannnnn: don't spam us please03:55
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trincamckeewhat im trying to say is that i have just one xfce entrie03:56
trincamckeein xsessions03:56
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ohmannnnnthomhash, i made a simple question where noone answered, so whought you dont see mee03:56
trincamckeebut doesnt seemed to worked03:56
dnBdooglus, apparently its already in init.d, however it seems it loads before squid, which causes it to close down, know how i can change the boot order? so i can have it boot after squid?03:56
thoreauputicohmannnnn: that's no escuse03:56
thoreauputicohmannnnn: any repetition and you are out of here, sorry03:57
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Shadow_pillarHow do I compile a kernel and make it into a .deb?03:57
ohmannnnnthoreauputic, well, i'm here to HELP others and i registered my password with "/msg nickserv register <your-password>" as user "oskude", logout and set my "nickserv password" in xchat for freenode server". on login i get "Password accepted - you are now recognized: services. sets mode +e oskude: You have no new memos" and then i "/join #ubuntu" and when saying something i get "#ubuntu :Cannot send to channel"...03:57
thoreauputicShadow_pillar: why?03:57
Shadow_pillarI want to compile a custom kernel03:58
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Shadow_pillarthoreauputic: because from what I hear pre-emp support is disabled in the default kernel03:58
rawtekcfa; are you there03:58
thoreauputicohmannnnn: because you have a gag (+q) I assume03:58
Shadow_pillarthoreauputic: and between hoary and breezy, I can notice it when trying to do ink work under the gimp03:58
intelikeyssdd534 look in /dev/ide/cd or host0  and see if you don't already have a device inode for it.....  if so you can symlink that   ln -s /dev/ide/cd/blah  /dev/cdrom#03:58
cfai am new to ubuntu and debian. I now RH, FreeBSD, Centos and other. does the standard install not include the source and how can i install it03:58
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balfourHi all.03:59
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Shadow_pillarwhen drawing, it uses 100% of the cpu, and the mouse skips around03:59
thoreauputicohmannnnn: which given your behaviour isn't surprising03:59
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cfarawtek yes how r u doing\03:59
Shadow_pillarohmannnnn: would you have to be juho?03:59
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dooglusdnB: you can edit the file and add stuff to it.  the numbers tell you the boot order.  look in /etc/rc2.d03:59
Shadow_pillarohmannnnn: have = happen03:59
dnBdooglus, thanks ;)03:59
ohmannnnnthoreauputic, no, i was allways oskude in here, until i registered it and couldnt talk here03:59
dooglusdnB: and from what I remember, bootmisc.sh is one of the last things to run - after squid I should think03:59
rawtekcfa; great thanks how is your network now03:59
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ohmannnnnShadow_pillar, no, i was allways oskude in here, until i registered it and couldnt talk here04:00
cmcnamardoes anyone know how to install something from a .bin file in Ubuntu?04:00
balfourI'm trying to make a disk image of /dev/hdb, which may have been partially formatted, and I'm trying to move said image onto /home/theblue on /dev/hda1. I'm using the Hoary Live CD, as I don't want to screw up my normal Breezy configuration, and I want the image to be copied to the home folder on the Breezy installation.  Does anyone know how I would go about doing this?04:00
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dnBdooglus, according to this squid is s30 and dansguardian is s50.. so it should already be in the correct order/04:00
cmcnamarI'm trying to install RealPlayer, but it's in a .bin file04:00
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dooglusdnB: right.04:00
ssdd534intelikey, sorry to be a pain... seems i dont have a /dev/ide :/04:00
thoreauputiccmcnamar: be specific -what is it and why are you installing it?04:00
Shadow_pillarthoreauputic: do I download a source deb package and compile it and then turn it into a deb?04:00
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cfasorry, back , have a newbirn and when he cries i need to run04:01
dnBdooglus, guess its some other problem then :) thanks04:01
cmcnamarit's RealPlayer10GOLD.bin04:01
cmcnamarand I'm installing it because Rhythmbox can't play MP3's04:01
ohmannnnnthoreauputic, my (current) behaviour is caused by nickserv not working right04:01
rawtekcmcnamr; ./realplayer file name after you cd to its location04:01
Shadow_pillar# CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set04:01
dooglusdnB: if you rename the s50 to a k50, it won't run.  then you can run it from bootmisc.sh instead04:01
thoreauputiccmcnamar: ah sorry I didn't see your post04:01
cmcnamarand I want to play MP3's04:01
dooglusdnB: 's' for 'start', 'k' for 'kill'04:01
Madpilot!tell cmcnamar about mp304:01
cmcnamarhow do I do that?04:01
dnBdooglus, ahh ;)04:01
rawtekmp3 use special codecs see ubuntu wiki04:01
dnBdooglus, would you mind if i pmed you?04:02
thoreauputiccmcnamar:  run  chmod +x RealPlay*    then run  sudo ./RealpPlay*.bin04:02
dooglusdnB: you can try :)  you need to have your nick registered or it won't let you04:02
dnBheh, ok04:02
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cmcnamarI read the RestrictedFormats page04:02
dooglusdnB: and I draw the line at cybersex04:02
thoreauputic!tell cmcnamar about restricted04:02
cmcnamarand it said that you can use RealPlayer04:02
balfourI'm trying to make a disk image of /dev/hdb, which may have been partially formatted, and I'm trying to move said image onto /home/theblue on /dev/hda1. I'm using the Hoary Live CD, as I don't want to screw up my normal Breezy configuration, and I want the image to be copied to the home folder on the Breezy installation.  Does anyone know how I would go about doing this?04:03
thoreauputiccmcnamar: YOU READ IT? iTTELLS YOU HOW!04:03
Shadow_pillarthoreauputic: can you help with the custom kernel?04:03
cmcnamarwhich is what I'm trying to install...04:03
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balfourAnd would "sudo cat /dev/hdb > ??????" work?04:03
thoreauputicShadow_pillar: not really sorry04:03
rawtekcfa; did you get your a/g working04:03
_native_realplayer sucks install beep-media-player or xmms and libmad004:03
Shadow_pillarthoreauputic: CONFIG_PREEMPT=y04:03
Shadow_pillar in 2.6.10 on hoary # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set04:03
Shadow_pillar on breezy04:03
cfarawtek the wireless did not work. do u know if the source is installed when u do a standard install04:03
rawteki like amarok but that is just me04:03
Shadow_pillarthoreauputic: my system is noticeably slow because of this04:03
rawtekcfa; what source please04:03
Madpilotcmcnamar: you don't need Realplayer just for mp3...04:03
ohmannnnnhmm, why cant i talk in #freenode ? i get "#freenode :Cannot send to channel" ?04:04
balfourBecause you have to stay in #freenode for a while to get to be able to talk.04:04
_native_cmcnamar; install beep-media-player04:04
ohmannnnnok, some1 granted me, foh04:04
thoreauputicohmannnnn: they need to voice you04:04
_native_cmcnamar; and libmad004:04
cfalinux kernel,04:05
rawtekcfa; I want to help you through this but you will need ndiswrapper installed and the driver file (not source) ready to go04:05
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balfourSo no one can tell me how to image a drive using Hoary Live?04:05
intelikey libmad0 is in main but not on the cd.....   :)04:05
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cfarawtek the ndiswrapper is install04:06
intelikeybalfour dd04:06
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rawtekok how about the driver for your wireless04:06
balfourintelikey: dd if=/dev/hdb of=??04:06
cfashould i download the win drivers04:06
rawtekyes if you can get a hold of the win driver in .inf format04:06
rawtekdo you have a disk04:06
intelikeybalfour where ever you have room for it file.img04:06
rawtekthat came with the pc04:06
bluefoxicycan someone explain ssh -x to me?04:07
cfaok i will and i have a usb disk04:07
balfourintelikey: How do I get it to dump the .img file to my HD-installed Breezy ~ folder?04:07
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bluefoxicybluefox@icebox:~$ ssh -x rusty@
bluefoxicyrusty@'s password:04:07
bluefoxicyrusty@icegate:~$ gedit04:07
bluefoxicy(gedit:21334): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:04:07
bluefoxicymainly, why in the fuck it doesn't work for me, ever.04:07
cfarawtek going now to download04:07
intelikeypoint it at the mount point blafour04:07
balfourbluefoxicy: Language, please.04:07
SEJeffbluefoxicy: Did you export your display?04:07
rawtekok i will be here ; cfa04:08
bluefoxicySEJeff:  no, how exactly is that done?04:08
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balfourintelikey: I'm using the live CD, it'll go to the one on the CD, won't it?04:08
balfourintelikey: Or the ramdisk?04:08
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rawtekcfa do you have an IM client04:08
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bluefoxicyholy crap, it's -X04:08
SEJeffbluefoxicy: Obviously you know X is a client <--> server model. From the remote host, try: export DISPLAY=your.ip.address:0.004:08
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bluefoxicySEJeff:  it's -X, not -x04:08
SEJeffbluefoxicy: Oh, ha04:09
bluefoxicySEJeff:  excuse me for reading BSD mailing lists where nobody knows what a shift key is.04:09
intelikeybalfour like 'dd if=/dev/hdb of=/media/hda/file.img '   or where ever your hd is mounted.04:09
balfourOk, thanks.04:09
rawtekcan I make the PC beep when someone writes specifically to me?04:09
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cmcnamari'm trying to install the realplayer04:09
SEJeffbluefoxicy: You should try out nx, I am quite spoiled to it. And it is much faster than raw XDMP04:10
balfourintelikey: But I'm not sure where its mounted, and there's nothing in /media.04:10
cmcnamarbut the restrictedformats web page04:10
intelikeyrawtek xchat has that ability04:10
bluefoxicySEJeff:  i'm on breezy.  FreeNX isn't integrated04:10
cmcnamarsays that there's a support package I'm supposed to have04:10
SEJeffbluefoxicy: I believe that seveas's repo has packages, so yes it is :)04:10
cmcnamarhow do I get htis package?04:10
rawtekI am using that how do i set it04:10
bluefoxicySEJeff:  I searched a week ago for freenx.04:10
intelikeybalfour ' df '    or     'mount '   either should tell you.04:10
Madpilotcmcnamar: the package has a name?04:10
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bluefoxicySEJeff:  and just now.  Nothing.04:10
cmcnamari don't know what the name is!04:10
SEJeffbluefoxicy: Didn't search hard enough: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/freenx/04:10
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bluefoxicySEJeff:  that's not in breezy, that's additional :)04:11
SEJeffbluefoxicy: The developers are all kde developers for freenx04:11
cfarawtek i download the drives, but it is an .exe04:11
SEJeffbluefoxicy: your point being? It works fine04:11
SEJeffbluefoxicy: And it goes through ssh04:11
cmcnamarit just says there's a "support package needed by realplayer" that i'm supposed to install04:11
bluefoxicySEJeff:  oh jesus that means it'll take for eternity for gdm/freenx integration.04:11
rawtekok so you have to unzip t04:11
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cfarawtek, ok04:11
cfarawtek, 1 sec04:11
rawtekterminal unzip file name.exe04:12
Madpilotcmcnamar: read the stuff in the tan box - that mentions which addtional file you need04:12
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intelikeybalfour also if you know that your hd is hda but it's not mounted you can 'fdisk /dev/hda -l ' to list the partitions on hda...  then mount it some place with 'sudo mount /dev/hda# /mount/point '04:12
AwaySwordcan somebody help me04:12
SEJeffbluefoxicy: Redhat had a guy working on vnc <--> gdm integration right before nx was released. Don't know what happened though04:13
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cmcnamarwhat tan box?04:13
myrth_GTK styles and fonts doesn't start from settings.... what's the command line so i can see which error it gives?04:13
cheebyis there a quick debian way to add drivers and support for wireless?  I have a linksys wmp11.04:13
cheeby(desktop pc)04:13
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ohmannnnnok the friendly people at #freenode say the user "oskude" is muted here, may i ask why ??????04:13
rawtekcheeby ndiswrapper04:13
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Madpilotcmcnamar: in the RealPlayer section of RestrictedFormats, there is a box that starts "cd ~/Desktop" - please read that box04:14
SEJeffcheeby: Install ndisgtk from universe04:14
cfarawtek, unzip did nt work04:14
AwaySwordhow can i synchronise the time in my linux?04:14
cheebydoes ndiswrapper require Windows drivers?04:14
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rawtekcfa not sure where to go from here04:14
rawtekhold on04:14
MadpilotAwaySword: right click on the clock, choose "Adjust Time & Date" - then pick an NTP server04:14
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balfourintelikey: And is there a utility to undelete files?04:14
fletch33i think trying to switch to linux or ubu is the hardest thing ive evr done and i have done a lot of hard stuff04:14
balfourfletch33: Nonsense.04:14
AwaySwordit won't startup that time and date thingy04:14
cheebySEJeff, can you tell me how that command would be phrased?04:15
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balfourfletch33: Its not that hard.04:15
SEJefffletch33, ubuntu is easy04:15
fletch33i really want htis to work04:15
kestasis there any method to the madness in the ubuntu version numbering scheme?04:15
cheebyapt-get install ndisgtk... ?04:15
SEJeffcheeby: Open up synaptic04:15
balfourfletch33: You could have been using slackware or gentoo.04:15
MadpilotAwaySword: what happens when you try and start it?04:15
fletch33i cant figure it out04:15
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AwaySwordit just won't start04:15
ohmannnnncould be that i (oskude) got "auto-muted" cause i used "ubotu" too often ? (wihtout /msg)04:15
balfourfletch33: Uh oh.04:15
SEJeffcheeby: Yes, as long as you have universe enabled, do you?04:15
fletch33and i know windows inside and out04:15
bluefoxicySEJeff:  I made this insane post on gnome's bugzilla about using gpg keys and the pgp global keyserver for an e-mail/signature authentication method, with user<->email mapping to get user/signature authentication.04:15
DShepherdfletch33: apt-get install easy-ubuntu :)04:15
cheebySEJeff, not sure ... still installing.04:15
Shadow_pillartake notes: to all who complain about not being able to play realmedia and wmv files, find a w32codecs deb package, then install totem-xine04:15
intelikeyyes. mc has a recovery method built in it, but i'v never used it. balfour04:15
cfarawtek, i tried to unzip the .exe file, was that what i suppose to do04:15
fletch33what is that04:15
MadpilotAwaySword: "just won't start" isn't all that helpful... does Gnome give you an error message, or what?04:16
DShepherdfletch33: its a joke04:16
fletch33i just started thng up 2 days agois thi04:16
fletch33ok thanks04:16
fletch33ha ha ha ha04:16
intelikeybalfour there may be other ways...  best to not remove things you want to keep.04:16
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Shadow_pillargstreamer is absolute shit and shouldnt be included in ubuntu just yet04:16
fletch33bad typing sorry04:16
ohmannnnnany channel admins here ?04:16
cheebySEJeff, this is kubuntu, so will kpackage work?04:16
SEJeffcheeby: I don't use kubuntu04:16
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balfourintelikey: No, many things were accidentally deleted by Asterisk@Home setup, is there a way to get anything at all back?04:16
SEJeffcheeby: I guess it would, but I don't know how to enable universe with kpackage04:17
cheebySEJeff, ok.  Just thought you'd know.04:17
fletch33all i really want to do at the moment is get my contacts and email form outlook to evolution04:17
AwaySwordand in my terminal i get the error : sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 13 05:00:34 200504:17
fletch33but i have been trying for 2 days04:17
cheebySEJeff, what is the text file to edit so as to enable 'universe' ?04:17
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rawtekfolks how do we unzip a windows executable04:17
intelikeybalfour if they were rm'd and things added after that probably not.04:17
SEJeffbluefoxicy: Most of your posts (lkml, ubuntu-devel) seem to be insane :-)04:17
jrsimsok, installed apache - now how do I start it?04:17
balfourintelikey: Nothing was added afterwards, it was just rm'd.04:17
SEJeffcheeby: /etc/apt/sources.list04:17
cheebySEJeff, cool.  thanks.04:17
fletch33i converted my eamil with thhunderbird but evo wont let me import it04:17
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rawtekcfa: see if you can find just the driver (not the exe04:18
cheebySEJeff, are you using wireless?04:18
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bluefoxicySEJeff: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32027904:18
intelikeybalfour then yes,  but as to how to i'll have to back out on that and say good luck.04:18
fletch33can u recommend some reading or a book or something so i can start to figure this out04:18
balfourintelikey: Um, thanks.04:18
bluefoxicySEJeff:  I'm of the persuasion that a GPG key should be the new identity.04:18
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AwaySwordso i need to sync my clock to my terminal clock right madpilot?04:19
SEJeffcheeby: I use wpa04:19
fletch33at least the basics i want to get away from windows and into this but i dont know where to star04:19
rawtekcfa; do you not have a disk that cam with the pc04:19
DShepherdfletch33: doc about ubuntu?04:19
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MadpilotAwaySword: no idea... the Adjust Time & Date thing should work for you. Do any sudo functions work? Synaptic?04:19
fletch33yeah if that is possible04:19
fletch33basic commands or how to get and install softwqare04:19
Madpilotfletch33: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation04:19
AwaySwordsudo gives error04:19
cfarawtek, i did the linux drivers, i will look for the other win drives, yes i have the CD04:20
balfourCan anyone else tell me how to undelete a file under the Hoary Live CD?04:20
AwaySwordand synaptic won't start either04:20
MadpilotAwaySword: which error?04:20
AwaySwordsudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 13 05:00:34 200504:20
MadpilotAwaySword: and please start your posts w/ people's nicks - thanks...04:20
rawteki only know how to use ndiswrapper with windows drivers, that is what it was designed for04:20
SEJeffbluefoxicy: You should send in patches to do that. It would be very nice04:20
rawtekI have no experience with linux drivers04:20
fletch33i out 2 folders on my desktop and know they have a lock on them and ubu wont let me delete them04:20
AwaySwordok Madpilot04:21
fletch33sorry i dont type well opr really slow04:21
intelikeydid someone say sync clocks ?04:21
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cfaSEJeff how did u get wpa to work, is you wireless builtin and what chip set r u using04:21
SEJeffrawtek: In linux, there aren't "drivers" per se. They are called modules and are generally shipped with the kernel04:21
balfournecator: That's the goal.04:21
AwaySwordintelikey, me04:21
rawtekthe cd may contain the .inf files you need04:21
Madpilotintelikey: AwaySword has some sort of clock problem04:21
intelikeyntpdate pool.ntp.org && hwclock --systohc04:21
balfournecator: many things ni Ubuntu are designed to look similiar to things in Windows.04:21
SEJeffcfa: It is a PITA. Google for wpa_supplicant. I am not going to help you set it up04:21
intelikeyAwaySword ^04:22
necatorbalfour i am basically trying to eliminate windows completelly.04:22
balfournecator: I actually keep one Windows box around, just in case.04:22
balfournecator: But everything else is Linux.04:22
fletch33d how do i get rid of those floders04:22
necatorbalfour but i found gaming in linux is becomming a hassle so i might keep my win os around just to install some of my games when i get them in a few months.04:22
AwaySwordintelikey, 13 Nov 04:22:15 ntpdate[9182] : bind() fails: Permission denied04:22
rawtekso i guess you could modprobe the module if you kneew whichine04:22
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balfournecator: That's a good idea.04:22
necatorbalfour but i been looking thru my windows and writing dow nthe stuff i use since i am new to linux.04:22
DShepherdbalfour: just in case iof wat?04:22
cfaSEJeff r u using breezy04:22
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necatorbalfour and am trying to find ways to do the same stuff in linux.04:22
SEJeffbluefoxicy: Did you mean PKE towards the end?04:22
intelikeysudo them AwaySword04:22
balfourDShepherd: Better safe then sorry.04:22
SEJeffcfa: dapper04:22
Lord2kHi. Is there any other method I could use to install Ubuntu besides burning it onto a cd? My burner is somewhere else and there is no possible way I can obtain it tonight.04:22
balfourDShepherd: For any reason at all, its still useful to keep a Windows box aroudn.04:23
rawtekhow is dapper working out for you04:23
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fletch33ok thanks dshepherd i am going to read be back later with stupid questions04:23
cfais that out04:23
necatorbalfour problem now is im reformating soon and not sure how much hdd space to give to windows.04:23
AwaySwordintelikey, sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 13 05:00:34 200504:23
DShepherdfletch33: yeah later04:23
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balfournecator: What version of Windows?04:23
necatorbalfour xp04:23
rawtekSEJeff; how is dapper working for you04:23
DShepherdbalfour: kool. I just wanted t know why04:23
balfourbluefoxicy: Give it 3 gigs for a core install.04:23
SEJeffrawtek: Nothing is broken yet except for ipod support. I really like it. Once x.org 7.0 is released in Dec and that gets put in dapper, it might be rough for a bit04:23
ohmannnnncould some1 say why "oskude" got banned ?04:24
balfourbluefoxicy: Sorry,that was stupid of me.04:24
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balfournecator: Give it 3.5 gigs for the core, another gig or 2 per game if they're really new games.04:24
intelikeylol AwaySword man idk.....      do this 'sudo bash '    and in that shell run the command 'ntpdate pool.ntp.org && hwclock --systohc'  it should work.....04:24
fletch33man i will trade something for someone to join me in any instant messenger for some personal training on a few things04:24
necatorbalfour if i reformat my windows do i have to redo the entire hard drive? like reconfigure linux also?04:24
cfarawtek BRB going to Atheros for the drives, i have the CD for the laptop, but it is at work04:24
SEJeffbluefoxicy: nvm. X.509 is really good04:24
fletch33like maybe an invite to www.oink.me.uk04:25
AwaySwordintelikey,  again04:25
balfournecator: No, if you reformat your windows "drive", as Windows sees it, only the windows partition is affected.04:25
gteppelI tried to follow the instructions in the Ubunutu FAQ Guide to add universe and multiverse sources to my sources.list. when i do a apt-get update it works fine except for this server: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse04:25
gteppel. What might be wrong???04:25
gteppelalso what is the difference between multiverse and universe04:25
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balfourWindows "drives" are actually just windows-formatted partitions.04:25
AwaySwordintelikey,  again same error04:25
rawtekjust change apt sources config file references to breezy to dapper and go for it, right SEJeff04:25
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necatorbalfour the windows install disc will only see the windows partion? and install to there only?04:25
SEJeffrawtek: That is correct04:25
DShepherdgteppel: mul04:25
balfournecator: Pretty much, but then it screws up the MBR.04:25
_native_paging Dr. watson greenthumb.04:25
necatorbalfour so either way my linux will be ruined then?04:25
balfournecator: No, there's ways to restore GRUB or LILO.04:26
intelikeyAwaySword i've never seen that error and i've had the system clock years off on this box....04:26
DShepherdgteppel: sorry mult--- that's right04:26
balfournecator: I'm just not sure of them.04:26
necatorbalfour maybe it will be healthy to reformat my linux too? even tho this was my first install ever of linux and its been pretty tuff setting everything up.04:26
SEJeffgteppel: multiverse contains software that is not open source or has legal issues in some countries (mp3, divx support, flash player, adobe acrobad reader, etc)04:26
gteppelSEJeff: okay04:26
necatorbalfour so thats what i would have to do reinstall a boot loader?04:26
trincamckeecan someone help me here: ttp://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7766/multiplexfce0fa.jpg , i have to xfce session entriesm how can i delete one of them?04:26
necatorbalfour thats what windows would mess up?04:26
myrth_which package includes gtk-config?04:26
SEJeffgteppel: universe is just a ton of extra software that isn't officially supported, but still works fine 99.9% of the time04:26
balfournecator: Yeah, just install a bootloader, that's all that Windows would mess up.04:26
intelikeyAwaySword google the error04:26
AwaySwordintelikey,  :(04:26
balfournecator: Although I could be mistaken, it may want to wipe the drive.04:27
necatorbalfour would the breezy cd have that on there?04:27
bluefoxicySEJeff:  oh shit04:27
gteppelThe only multiverse server in my breezy install doesn't work... are there others?04:27
balfournecator: Yes, the Breezy CD would.04:27
bluefoxicySEJeff:  this samsung CLP-510 says it's linux compatible, but you actually have to install drivers for it o_o04:27
necatorbalfour would i have to reinstall breezy to be bale to use that bootloader or is it just a nice option waiting for such situations?04:27
intelikeysorry AwaySword, that's standard clock syncronization i gave you.04:27
balfournecator: I don't know.04:27
necatorbalfour if i deep freeze my windows theres no real need for anti virus and firewall and such there right?04:27
cheebySEJeff, are there any docs for setting up wireless on the ubuntulinux site?  I can't seem to find any.04:27
balfournecator: Firewall, you shuold defenitely keep.04:27
SEJeffbluefoxicy: bummer04:28
rawtekhas anyone has trouble with the backorts04:28
balfournecator: Antivirus isn't nearly as needed, there's one in APT in case you do.04:28
necatorbalfour since im probally only going to be using it for gaming.04:28
Madpilot!tell cheeby about wireless04:28
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SEJeffcheeby: Search the wiki and forums. There are a ton of docs04:28
myrth_how do i search for package by the file it includes?04:28
balfournecator: If you're not gonna use the Internet at all on Windows, nope.04:28
bluefoxicySEJeff:  to make matters w orse, samsung's site goes to nowhere.04:28
Duvelanybody experience with bluetooth? want to use my se t610 to control for example xmms or bmp or whatever... it's possible in win...04:28
bluefoxicy The resource cannot be found.04:28
necatorbalfour well for online gaming ya.04:28
bluefoxicyDescription: HTTP 404. The resource you are looking for (or one of its dependencies) could have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. Please review the following URL and make sure that it is spelled correctly.04:28
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necatorbalfour but no web surfing most liekly not.04:28
SEJeffbluefoxicy: Awesome04:28
balfournecator: Oh god no, use A/V and firewall on Windows if you're using the Internet at all.04:28
bluefoxicySEJeff: http://www.samsung.com/Products/PrinterandMultifunction/ColorLaserPrinters/CLP_510XAA.asp  Do most of the images seem broken to you?04:28
ohmannnnnim VERY VERY sory that im a noob and used the bot too often wihtout "/msg", i learned my lesson and registered to beable to use "/msg". so please unban "oskude"...04:29
SEJeffbluefoxicy: Do you want me to tell you when that freeze issue with vSecurity is worked out so you can test it?04:29
necatorbalfour do i need a/v and firewall on linux?04:29
cheebySEJeff, ok.  the initial scan revealed nothing.  But, I am dealing with a toddler here.04:29
bluefoxicySEJeff:  more pertainently, does the 'drivers' link break?04:29
trincamckeecan someone help me here: ttp://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7766/multiplexfce0fa.jpg , i have to xfce session entriesm how can i delete one of them?04:29
bluefoxicySEJeff:  yeah, alright; but I have an uptime of 64 days now ;)04:29
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rawtekSEJeff; are the backports for breezy dwon04:29
ianAnybody have MythTV working on Breezy?04:29
balfournecator: a/v, not really, but its a good idea, firewall, absolutely.04:29
bluefoxicySEJeff:  I'll try it on my laptop04:29
balfournecator: Firestarter is a nice firewall.04:29
balfournecator: !botsnack04:30
bluefoxicyoh god firestarter.04:30
kestasfirestarter isnt a firewall04:30
ianor even just TVTIME04:30
necatorbalfour is it preinstalled with ubuntu or is that something i do in apt?04:30
kestasit just configures other firewalls like iptables04:30
balfournecator: I take that back.04:30
bluefoxicybalfour:  if you use irc connection tracking, it'll break it :)04:30
balfournecator: HOWEVER.04:30
SEJeffrawtek: I already said I was on dapper. I don't use breezy on my main desktop, only my work laptop and I don't use backports on it so I don't know04:30
ubotuthanks duvel :)04:30
balfournecator: rob.pectol.com has Ubuntu-firewall, which is a commandline utility.04:30
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necatorbalfour so ubuntu doesnt have firewall built in?04:30
balfournecator: It can also do internet connection sharing.04:30
rawtekSEJeff ; my fault forgot04:30
balfournecator: It does, but I'm not sure how to use it.04:31
Shadowpillarthe default ubuntu kernel is horribly broken04:31
Shadowpillarrequesting someone fix this04:31
SEJeffnecator: There are 0 ports open on default ubuntu04:31
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kinkoblastAre there any decent strategy games in the repos? (Example: Command and Conquer)04:31
ShadowpillarI sent the maintainer an email04:31
SEJeffShadowpillar: funny, works horribly well for me04:31
gteppelwhat are breezy backports? apt-get update crashes on this server-> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse04:31
Xenguynecator: shorewall is worth a look if you don't require a GUI04:31
balfourkinkoblast: craft is good.04:31
necatorxenguy i dont even know if i have a firewall or need to add one :p04:31
Madpilotkinkoblast: Battle for Wesnoth - not a RTS, but very good04:31
SEJeffnecator: Do you want a firewall for a desktop or server?04:31
ShadowpillarSEJeff: when you have a 400 mhz cpu, the lack of pre-empt support is noticeable04:31
Xenguynecator: you don't have a firewall by default...04:31
ShadowpillarSEJeff: as in applications lock up easily04:31
necatorsejeff im on a desktop.04:32
ShadowpillarSEJeff: and I cant use the GIMP04:32
AwaySwordintelikey, i found it :)04:32
ShadowpillarSEJeff: 100% cpu usage when drawing04:32
SEJeffnecator: apt-get install firestarter04:32
necatorwill i neeed anti virus and anti malware programs as well or just a firewall?04:32
Xenguynecator: adding one or not is your decision, and depends on your circumstances and needs really04:32
balfournecator: Just a firewall, but A/V is still a good idea if you're worried.04:32
SEJeffShadowpillar: gnome/gtk isn't that great on a 400MHZ04:32
necatorbalfour isnt it not likely that id get a virus on linux?04:32
ShadowpillarSEJeff: I know it's the lack of pre-empt because I ran it with the 2.6.10 kernel and it's fine04:32
SEJeffnecator: No, you don't need AV. This is linux.04:33
balfournecator: Its not likely, but its not impossible.04:33
bluefoxicyShadowpillar:  yeah.  There's exactly one application that breaks from a bug in 2.6.12 preempt.04:33
Xenguynecator: AV is nice, but optional on linux; malware isn't usually a problem, but rkhunter and chkrootkit are good to have running IMHO04:33
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balfournecator: Though if you're not absolutely paranoid, you don't need it.04:33
ShadowpillarSEJeff: well uh huh, yeah, but, like I said, it's the lack of pre-empt that is hurting my system04:34
necatortheres so much i have to learn in the linux word it feels like im starting all over as a computer user =(04:34
trincamckeei have two xfce session entries how can i delete one of them? http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7766/multiplexfce0fa.jpg , so that u can see waht im trying to say...04:34
necatori dont know where to go where to begin what to do next.04:34
balfournecator: That's part of the fun of it.04:34
Shadowpillarbluefoxicy: which is?04:34
SEJeffShadowpillar: Yes, that is odd why it is off. I just grepped /boot/config* and you are right04:34
bluefoxicyShadowpillar:  some optional network applet.04:34
kinkoblastSEJeff: Gnome is SLOW on anything below 500. XFCE is SO much better on older systems. (I like it better anyway, but that's me :-P)04:34
SEJeffShadowpillar, # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set04:34
kbrooksbbl bed04:34
necatorbalfour be nice if i could talk with some of u guys on aim finding people in here can be diffiuclt04:34
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balfournecator: Oh you bet.04:34
Fr0Gshow can i get quake3 to work on ubuntu?04:34
balfournecator: Ubuntu has very good user support, as you've seen.04:34
SEJeffkinkoblast: But thanks to geniuses like federico, mattias, behad, etc... gnome 2.14+ will be much faster04:34
bluefoxicySEJeff, Shadowpillar: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1190604:34
balfournecator: Much better than those 1-800 tech support numbers.04:34
necatorbalfour first time on linux all my research pointed me to ubuntu04:35
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bluefoxicySEJeff:  oh oh sweet, is 2.14 in beta?  :)04:35
balfournecator: And your research was right.04:35
ShadowpillarSEJeff: yep, I wonder if it's working in the 686 version04:35
necatorbalfour not to mention there was only 1 cd i had to download lol04:35
kinkoblastSEJeff: True. I'll still like XFCE better.04:35
necatorbalfour compared to the 2-3 cds the other distros were using.04:35
balfournecator: You could have gotten it for free in the mail.04:35
_native_tell frogs about quake304:35
_native_!tell frogs about quake304:35
ShadowpillarBlueEagle: so, because of some optional app, the whole system has to suffer instead of fixing that app?04:35
necatorbalfour i did get it for free.04:35
Shadowpillarbluefoxicy: so, because of some optional app, the whole system has to suffer instead of fixing that app?04:35
ohmannnnnany channel admins around ?04:35
necatorbalfour downloaded and burned within the same day04:35
SEJeffbluefoxicy: From my machine right now: gnome-panel                           2.13.1-0ubuntu104:35
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balfournecator: Right.04:36
ianapt-get remove doesnt seem to totally remove an application, what should I be using to remove all traces of a specific application?04:36
necatorbalfour do you have aim ? hard to conversate here and feels wrong since its more of a tech support spot it seems.04:36
SEJeffkinkoblast: So does my little sister. Most of my workstations are openbox or gnome. It depends04:36
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ShadowpillarI have to rely on the standard kernel because I use the nvidia kernel module04:36
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balfournecator: Just type /msg theblue and then your message to me.04:36
SEJeffnecator: use /msg balfour04:36
Shadowpillaris it me or is each ubuntu release becoming more and more broken?04:36
tryingsomethingsure why not04:36
SEJeffShadowpillar: It is you04:37
tryingsomethingim converting to kubuntu04:37
ohmannnnnubotu sucks :)04:37
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, ohmannnnn04:37
kinkoblastSEJeff: I agree. I know people who swear by KDE. I can't stand it. My REAL favorite is Aqua (Mac OS X) which is why I have Ubuntu on one moniter and 10.3.9 on the other :-)04:37
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tryingsomethinghow can you get aqua on kde ?04:37
Fr0Gsi need help installing quake 304:37
tryingsomethingquake 3 is easy04:38
kinkoblasttryingsomething: You can't.04:38
tryingsomethingdo a search in google04:38
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ohmannnnni got screwed by ubotu, who can unban my user ? :)04:38
tryingsomethinganyone use 6800 nvidia with ubuntu?04:39
tryingsomethingwhat driver do u use?04:39
tryingsomethingwhich rather04:39
LoneWolf071does anyone here use hydra? or can recommend any network logon crackers?04:39
tryingsomethingdo you download nvidia's and compile or use the one that came with ubuntu?04:39
feugan3333hi all. Anyone know what package contains the "termlib" library?04:39
tryingsomethingsearch synaptic04:39
tryingsomethingit will tell u04:39
ianAnyone have a Hauppauge PVR card working ith breezy...?04:39
SEJeffLoneWolf071: hydra is very good04:39
cfarawtek i have not found the drivers, just the linux ones. i need to run make and the kernelpath is not set right. do u know where the kernel is? do i need to install it if it is not in /usr/linux/src04:39
ohmannnnni got a miroPCTV working on breezy :)04:40
kinkoblast:-( Finder spoiled me, any other file manager doesn't feel right anymore.04:40
SEJeffcfa: /usr/src/linux04:40
ianohmannnnn, whats that exactly?04:40
cfaSEJeff it is not there04:40
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SEJeffkinkoblast: You need to look at beagle + deskbar. That will spoil you04:40
ohmannnnnian, i analog tv decoder04:40
LoneWolf071SEJeff, have you ever gottern the SSH cracker for it working?04:40
tryingsomethingfinder is da best04:41
ianohmannnnn, does it use the ivtv driver?04:41
blackhatWhats a good program from copying DVDs like DVDDecrypter (for linux)04:41
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DShepherdtryingsomething: I agree so far. Beagle has promis though04:41
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ohmannnnnian, dont think so, its like atleast 5years old card (bttv driver)04:41
tryingsomethinghmm beagle04:41
tryingsomethingwill check out04:41
LoneWolf071blackhat, you use hydra or any network logon crackers?04:41
SEJefftryingsomething: Have you ever used deskbar with beagle integration?04:41
tryingsomethingwhat's best way to find it on google or is it on sourceforge?04:41
SEJefftryingsomething: you are really missing out04:42
blackhatalso whats a good program to burn DVD and CD iso files.04:42
kinkoblastblackhat: VLC can do it in theory, but i never quite got it working (got sound, but not video. Probably would work if I chose something other than Theora.)04:42
DShepherdtryingsomething: google is your friend ;)04:42
tryingsomethingok im checking it out lol04:42
SEJefftryingsomething: sudo apt-get install deskbar04:42
ianohmannnnn, oh ok. thanks anyway.04:42
LoneWolf071SEJeff, have you ever gottern the SSH cracker for it working?04:42
ohmannnnnSeveas, are you there ?04:42
SEJeffLoneWolf071: I'm not going to talk about penetration testing on #ubuntu sorry04:42
tryingsomethingapt get ok04:42
tryingsomethingim booted into windows currently though04:42
bluefoxicySEJeff:  holy shit~04:43
tryingsomethingwill try soon though04:43
LoneWolf071ok, thanks04:43
bluefoxicySEJeff:  the 2.12 release notes apparently whisper that Gnome will be available for Windows in 2.1404:43
LoneWolf071SEJeff, can you point me to a room where i can get info?04:43
SEJeffLoneWolf071: Last time I gave a brief tutorial on wireless hacking and I had 50 people /msg me next time I logged in04:43
ianAny TvTime experts out there....?04:43
kinkoblasttrysomething: Uninstall it. If you are going to use a proppritary os, make it be! be is nice.04:43
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tryingsomethingoh beagle is that spotlight type app04:43
bluefoxicySEJeff: "And now many more GNOME libraries, including ORBit2, libbonobo, libgnome, libbonoboui, libgnomeui and gnome-vfs, can build on Microsoft Windows, making it easier to build and distribute GNOME applications on that platform. While this support is not yet complete, it may be sufficient for some applications, and is expected to be complete in the next release of GTK+ and GNOME."04:43
tryingsomethingithink i heard of it04:43
ohmannnnn<<< got scruwed by a bot, lol :)04:43
SEJeffbluefoxicy: link blease04:43
bluefoxicySEJeff: http://gnome.org/start/2.12/notes/en/rndevelopers.html  At the bottom, read into it.04:43
DShepherdbluefoxicy: really kool!!04:43
Shadowpillarbluefoxicy: thus, might be possible for ubuntu over windows04:44
bluefoxicySEJeff:  they're saying that some gnome apps should be buildable on Windows now, but it's not complete; but that full Windows support for all gnome libraries should be ready in the next release.04:44
LoneWolf071SEJeff, can you point me to a room where i can get info?04:44
kinkoblastNow, id only they would get GTK working on OS X.04:44
cfaSEJeff in a standard install, is the kernel src not install, because it is not in /usr/linux/src04:44
bluefoxicySEJeff:  And full support for all gnome applications on windows.04:44
SEJeffbluefoxicy: But hal needs kernel support and thats what gives gnome the hardware "just works" coolness factor04:44
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ubotuohmannnnn: Not a clue04:44
ubotuohmannnnn: I haven't a clue04:44
Shadowpillarkinkoblast: I thought gtk was working on OSX already?04:44
ubotuNo idea, ohmannnnn04:44
bluefoxicySEJeff:  This leads into gnome, being a gnome app itself, working on windows, ne?04:44
ubotuohmannnnn: Are you smoking crack?04:45
ubotuohmannnnn: Not a clue04:45
SEJeffLoneWolf071: www.packetstormsecurity.org. Do some reading and figure it out. hyrdra is easy to use04:45
bluefoxicySEJeff:  heh.  Gnome would probably have to re-hal for windows.  :P04:45
nickrudohmannnnn, you were banned by an op, not the bot04:45
kinkoblastShadowpiller: I never got it working. I never even got sdl working.04:45
LoneWolf071SEJeff, i know how to use it, but the SSh mod needs libSSh which is not really working, but TY for the help04:45
blackhatalso whats a good program to burn DVD and CD *.iso files.04:45
SEJeffbluefoxicy: gnome being a gtk "app" could possibly work on windows. But hal would likely suck for some time if ported to windows. It would need to be rewrote04:45
ohmannnnnnickrud, oh, you know by who, and why ?04:45
ianwickedpuppy, Singaporean?04:45
blackhatThats KED04:46
bluefoxicySEJeff:  yes, likely.  What exactly does HAL do, besides pop up a nautilus window when my USB drive is inserted :)04:46
kinkoblastUbotu is naughty. He thinks fuck is a good word.04:46
ubotukinkoblast: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!04:46
blackhatI use gnome I don't feel like installing 118mb to burn isos.04:46
blackhatwhats a good program that allows me to burn isos to dvd or cds and is gui04:46
cfarawtek u there04:46
durtblackhat: cdrecord04:46
ohmannnnnblackhat, gnomebaker04:46
nickrudI happened to be skimming both then and now, bot abuse apparently was the reason, Seveas was the op.04:46
SEJeffbluefoxicy: gnome-volume-manager does that :)04:46
bluefoxicySEJeff:  my point is though, that's a really big hint that gnome for Windows is coming.04:46
dooglusblackhat: right-click the .iso file in nautilus and say 'burn iso' or some such04:47
SEJeffbluefoxicy: hal is what allows gnome-volume-manager to work. It is also what allows all of the hardware to integrate so well in gnome04:47
kinkoblastUbotu: if x=3 what is 2x^2?04:47
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ubotukinkoblast: what are you talking about?04:47
ianwickedpuppy, u there?04:47
kinkoblastubotu: Green people04:47
ubotukinkoblast: Are you on ritalin?04:47
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SEJeffbluefoxicy: Take a look at opensolaris, hal won't run on the solaris kernel. Gnome kind of sucks without hal04:47
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kinkoblast(i'm done now_04:47
ohmannnnnnickrud, how do you know i (oskude) was banned by op ?04:47
bluefoxicySEJeff:  all of the hardware being NIC, screen resolution, sound card and volume mixer, and uSB drives?04:48
dreumahhello anyone know a microsoft avi codec player?04:48
nickrudohmannnnn, you can look it up at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/04:48
kinkoblastdreuma: vlc04:48
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)04:48
ohmannnnnnickrud, checking04:48
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cfaSEJeff in a standard install, is the kernel src not install, because it is not in /usr/linux/src04:48
bluefoxicycfa:  /usr/src/linux, and no.04:48
SEJeffbluefoxicy: any removable media, hid devices like mice and wireless keyboards, usb anything, etc04:48
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ubuntuamrola, alguem aqui manja de parties para caralho, estou com um probleminha04:49
SEJeffcfa: I know that. Install the kernel-headers04:49
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ubuntuamrin english here ?04:49
kestasguys how can I make hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdb stick when I reset?04:49
bluefoxicySEJeff:  do you think we REALLY need better post-install hardware detection on the install side?04:49
SEJeffcfa: And like I pointed out, the correct directory is /usr/src/linux04:49
ubuntuamralgum brasileiro ?04:49
RedRoseafter upgrading to breezy from hoary, hplip was added to my users, and ports 1025-1026 were opened, why?04:49
cfaok thanx, can i add with Synap04:49
doogluskestas: you can run it from /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh04:49
kestasdooglus, thanks04:49
RedRoseand hpssh and hpiod are running04:49
balfour!tell balfour about quake304:49
SEJeffbluefoxicy: I think we need the idea that Microsoft wants for Vista about hardware04:50
cfayes. sorry i know04:50
kinkoblastubuntuamr: English please. None of us speak (Portugeese?)04:50
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dreumahhello anyone know a microsoft avi codec player?04:50
bluefoxicySEJeff:  Try this when you have a chance.  Get an nVidia card, and a radeon.  Install ubuntu with the nvidia card (don't worry about hardware accelerator, just install and let it use 'nv'), and then shutdown and swap to the radeon04:50
bluefoxicySEJeff:  When you boot back up, GDM fails to start.04:50
SEJeffbluefoxicy: Replace the motherboard and all of the components minus the harddrive, boot the system, and everything works perfectly04:50
RedRosewhat is hplips?04:50
kinkoblastdreumah: VLC! (sudo apt-get vlc)04:50
bluefoxicySEJeff:  I've done that!04:50
dreumahi tried vlc it doesnt work04:50
SEJeffbluefoxicy: I believe that.04:50
bluefoxicySEJeff:  It's been like that forever, minus the video card drivers changing.04:50
dooglusdreumah: pretty much any player with play .avi movies if you have the codecs04:51
bluefoxicydreumah:  use xine-ui04:51
tryingsomethingi hate ati04:51
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tryingsomethingati sucks04:51
dreumahtried that too04:51
tryingsomethingdont buy ati04:51
dreumahit seems to not work on any of the players04:51
dooglustryingsomething: what's wrong with ati?04:51
kestasdooglus, hdparm -k 1 /dev/dvd will make it keep the settings you set04:51
ohmannnnnnickrud, lol, a 2mb html, waiting for render...04:51
tryingsomethingthey dont support linux04:51
kinkoblastdreumah: It's probably DRMed then. Try Windows Media Player.04:51
doogluskestas: it will?  cool.04:51
ubuntuamrI need help with partitions. Any can help-me ?04:51
SEJeffbluefoxicy: hal would detect the new card. It would be up to a user space daemon to change the x.org configuration04:51
bluefoxicySEJeff:  which we don't have.04:52
SEJeffbluefoxicy: the infrastructure is in place, it's just very new and in rapid development04:52
dreumahhow do i do that in ubuntu?04:52
dooglustryingsomething: they do04:52
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SEJeffbluefoxicy: Why don't you write something :)04:52
kinkoblastdreumah: wine might work.04:52
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bluefoxicySEJeff:  because I don't fully understand the technical implications.04:52
RedRosewhat is HPLIP/HPSSH/HPIOD and why after updating did they get installed on my PC?04:52
dooglustryingsomething: https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=300 is ati linux drivers04:52
SEJeffRedRose: For HP printers I believe04:52
dreumahi dont know how to use wine04:52
nickrudRedRose, they are hp specific, for the office jet & psc stuff04:52
wickedpuppydreumah, wine /path/to/exe.exe04:53
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RedRosebut why did they install on my machine? is there an apt log?04:53
RedRosemaybe i accidently installed it via apt04:53
SEJeffbluefoxicy: I got one of the ATI 9250 cards. EXA works really well so I get some luminosity wobbly windows style love04:53
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SEJeffRedRose: Likely a dep of something04:54
DShepherdSEJeff: what is EXA?04:54
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kinkoblastKelkaj Esprantlingvo parolantoj?04:54
RedRoseso is there an apt log of download things?04:54
wickedpuppykinkoblast, english pls04:54
dooglusRedRose: /var/log/dpkg.log I think04:54
SEJeffRedRose: /var/log/dpkg.log04:54
kinkoblastwickedpuppy: Any Esperanto speakers?04:55
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:55
dooglusthat's espanol, not esperanto :)04:55
Agrajagesperanto is eo04:55
ubotuWish i knew, wickedpuppy04:55
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wickedpuppyi wish i know too ubotu04:56
SEJeffDShepherd: http://www.freedesktop.org/~jonsmirl/graphics.html it makes things like xcompmgr more usable04:56
kinkoblastEsperanto is a supported install language. too.04:56
ubotukinkoblast: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about04:56
cfahow do i add the linux src to /usr/src/linux04:56
ohmannnnnthis was the newest i found http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-2005-11-12.html and theres not mentioned why/how "oskude" got banned...04:56
Agrajagwhat about lojban04:56
DShepherdSEJeff: ok04:56
ubuntuamra have 5 partitions on my hd, but last weekend, had I instaled the win xp for my wife and my partitions are not visible now, when I try to install the kubuntu 5.10, simply show the partition windows on hda1, but I can mount the other partition exiting of the instalation and going to the terminal. What can I do ?04:56
nickrudohmannnnn, RedRose is gone (I need to stop talking where while I work, I can't keep up)04:56
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nickrudheh, oh, man ;(04:56
SEJeffcfa: sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers04:56
ohmannnnnnickrud, RedRose banned me ?04:57
nickrudnosilver4u, bad nick completion04:57
cfagreat thanx04:57
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nickrudohmannnnn, I guess #ubuntu is to fast for a current, I didn't check.04:58
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fletch33man i hat e to do this bit i really need some advoce on how to fix this and what it means04:58
fletch33W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:58
fletch33W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:58
fletch33W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:58
fletch33W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:58
fletch33W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:58
fletch33W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:58
Madpilot!tell fletch33 about paste04:58
fletch33W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:58
rob1fletch33, don't paste that here04:58
nickrudfletch33, one line would have been enough04:58
ohmannnnnnickrud, i just wonder how u know (oskude) was banned by op ?04:58
fletch33W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:58
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fletch33W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_di04:58
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fletch33i know that was bad buit04:59
nickrudohmannnnn, I keep irc logs, since they're already out on the net.04:59
fletch33sorry i didnt know what to do04:59
ubotuit has been said that esperanto is the international language. (Esperanto estas la lingva internacia)   More info at http://www.lernu.net04:59
necatorwhat is a file that ends in .o?04:59
fletch33i am really really sorry04:59
fletch33can u help04:59
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kinkoblastnecator: Object code.04:59
necatorkinkoblast is that like an executeable of my source then?04:59
fletch33i cant get breezy or the other stuff04:59
necatorfletch33 go into your reposties and turn off the ones that say backports on it.05:00
gerbmanfletch, you can paste stuff here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ and link to it05:00
ohmannnnn<<< is confused about pannig policy, didnt even get a warning...05:00
kinkoblastnecator: An intermediate step.05:00
fletch33ok how05:00
nickrudfletch33, there still must not be any breezy backports, comment them out05:00
ohmannnnn*panning = banning05:00
necatorkinkoblast can u explain? im new to compiling and stuff on linux.05:00
nickrudfletch33, in /etc/apt/sources.list05:00
durtnecator: you want to make an executable with gcc?05:00
rob1ohmannnnn, its simple, do stupid things = ban05:00
Fr0Gswhere can i get the ubuntu fglrx drivers?05:01
necatordurt i dont know what gcc is and what do u mean executebale? like an exe? cuss they are already executeable im using ajuta.05:01
kinkoblastnecator: Join the club05:01
nickrudfletch33, put a ' # ' in front of the lines with breezy backports in them05:01
ohmannnnnrob1, i didnt do "stupid" things !05:01
necatorkinkoblast your new to linux also/05:01
fletch33i am sorry i dont know what any of that ,eans05:01
tryingsomethingive tried a lot of linux disastros in my day05:01
necatorfletch33 open up synpaitc05:01
kinkoblastnecator: Pretty much. A month or so under my belt05:01
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tryingsomethingprobably from since mandrake 7.2 up to suse 10 beta05:01
necatorkinkoblast me about a week05:01
necatorkinkoblast you program in c++?05:01
nickrudfletch33, start with sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:01
necatorfletch do u got it open?05:02
nickrudor, as necator says :)05:02
fletch33i opened package manger now what05:02
kinkoblastNecator: I barly program in BASIC.05:02
tryingsomethingand ubuntu has been the best ive tried so far minus - some parts have been easier on suse  like windows paritions were automatically mounted and linked05:02
fletch33what is sudo05:02
ohmannnnnrob1, i just (maybe) asked the bot too often without "/msg", but someone said i was not banned by a bot, i was banned by an op. and i would like to know why.05:02
necatorkinkoblast o i skipped basic and went right into c++05:02
gerbmanFr0gs: see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=42358405:02
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necatorfletch33 now go to settings > then repostiories05:02
fletch33i knok05:02
nickrudfletch33, sudo is super user do, but, synaptic is better right now05:03
durtnecator: to make a binary, run "g++ whatever.cpp -o whatever"05:03
necatorfletch33 scroll thru the list and UNCHECK the boxes that have the words backports in them.05:03
kinkoblastdurt: Unless it's a multi-file program. that's just fucjed up.05:03
necatorfletch33 when u uncheck em all then you can close it.05:03
ubotufuck is, like, a wonderful, versatile word, that you should use as often as you can. http://www.fartfarm.com/FWORD32_.wav05:03
fletch331 sec05:03
nickrudubotu forget fuck05:03
ubotui forgot fuck, nickrud05:03
necatordurt i am using adjuta i think it makes them executeable already for me when i compile.05:03
myrth_how do i change fonts of gtk apps?05:03
necatordurt it is an ide.05:03
SEJefftryingsomething: Many of our desktops at work are suse 10. Ubuntu has 10x the amount of software SUSE does05:04
kinkoblastI didn't teach him that!05:04
fletch33ok unchecked05:04
SEJefftryingsomething: And ubuntu works better for me than SUSE does05:04
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ohmannnnncan someone see/tell why "oskude" was banned ?05:04
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durtnecator: yeah... i dont know how anjuta works - try geany05:04
necatordurt ive only had anjuta about 5 mins seems fine tho.05:05
SEJeffohmannnnn: probably because he was breaking the rules or acting stupid. can you quit asking why he was banned?05:05
nickrudfletch33, now click ok05:05
necatordurt only other ide ive ever used is blood shed devC++ under windows.05:05
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nickrudfletch33, then click reload05:05
necatorfletch33 yup do what nickrud said.05:05
necatorfletch33 and that error should be gone.05:06
ohmannnnnSEJeff, lol, so i should quit cause of u assume something ?05:06
nickrudfletch33, you should be ok now05:06
dooglus02:30 < oskude> ubotu tell oskude about demoscene.tv05:06
dooglus02:31 -!- mode/#ubuntu [+b %oskude!*@*]  by Seveas05:06
necatordurt how long you been using linux?05:06
rob1ohmannnnn, you need to talk to Seveas when he is here05:06
SEJeffohmannnnn: No, asking the same question over and over again is a way to get banned05:06
fletch33now what05:06
fletch33 i will try the download again05:06
nickrudfletch33, yes05:06
ohmannnnndooglus, does that mean im not allowed to tell ubotu anything, and get banned right away ?05:06
GigaClonohmannnnn, Seveas banned you ask them05:07
gteppelI just installed Breezy and have no sound!, i went to Volume Control and changed the sound device from my mobo to my SB Live 5.1 but I still don't have sound. Any ideas??05:07
durtnecator, ive used bloodshed too and geany is somewhat similar, and a couple months05:07
rob1ohmannnnn, I would say for spamming05:08
necatordurt did you have bloodshed running under linux or is that y now u have geany for linux? how long have u been programming in c++? or programming in general?05:08
rob1ohmannnnn, as it is your breaking the rules just by avoiding the ban05:08
doogluslooks like you were banned for playing with the bot.  I don't know the rules.  but:05:09
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.05:09
ohmannnnnwell, i was spamming max 3lines, and i saw someone spamming 5lines before and he dodnt get banned05:09
durtnecator, i dont do c++, just random stuff in c - but you can use whatever ide/editor you want05:09
nickrudohmannnnn, ubotu is for keeping factoids about ubuntu, not trivial things on the net.05:09
SEJeffohmannnnn: And not marketing05:10
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durt!start a jihad05:10
ubotudurt: Did you get hit by a windmill?05:10
necatordurt well im new to linux just trying to bring my stuff over from windows into the linux world so im trying to find equivelants to what i use on win.05:10
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ohmannnnnhmm, i just told ubotu about demoscene.tv and then tried (3times) to open that directly to me with !tell... and still, NOONE said me i got banned...05:11
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durtnecator, well then try geany and scite05:11
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Lord2kWhat should my partition be? Ext2 or Ext3?05:12
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b1n0ryit worked, installed fine, runs fine, now i just have to learn to use it05:12
SEJeffohmannnnn: Why do you care that someone got banned for spamming ubotu? was it you on a different ip05:12
praxbuenas noches05:12
durthasta la vista05:12
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necatordurt is there something bad with adjuta? or are geany and scite just better?05:12
praxhola durt05:12
durtno speakee espanol05:13
ohmannnnnSEJeff, no it was me with my main userid, that i registered after someone said i should use /msg to talk with ubotu..05:13
crimsunLord2k: ext3 will suit you better unless you have a strictly defined reason for wanting ext205:13
echostormhi im having a problem with ubuntu install. no matter what screen resolution i pick when install hits the gnome portion (loading) of ubuntu I get a garbled sceen of whites and pink ascii charactors. Im running a evga geforce 6200 256mb gfx card with a sempron 3100+ palmero core05:13
nickrudSEJeff, he got the gentle ban, only by name05:13
cmcnamari just installed realplayer and am playing mp3's05:14
praxhola sala,05:14
cmcnamarthanks to everyone who helped me.05:14
praxesta es mi primera vez en esta sala05:14
praxde hecho, estoy probando un cd05:14
praxde ubuntu05:14
echostormmy cd is an official release btw so i know its not a corruption issue05:14
nickruda man who likes to be legal :)05:14
durtscite and geany are nice and quick and simple05:14
Lord2kAlright, thanks crimsun. I don't really have a reason, I'm just doing the partition manually since my burner is not available at the moment.05:14
ohmannnnnim just pissed off that i got banned (like automaticly) and it wasnt even the bot that banned me, he/she could atleas give a reaseon/warning...05:14
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:15
DShepherdohmannnnn: neva mind that man...your still loved.....hopefully :)05:15
SEJeffohmannnnn: Well you should take that up with an op05:15
DShepherdohmannnnn: so you got a question about ubuntu?:)05:15
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echostormcan anyone help with this issue or point me in the right direction? i see nothing on the forums concerning this05:16
ohmannnnnactually i was here to help other ubuntu noobs...05:16
DShepherdohmannnnn: or would you like to go to #ubuntu-offtopic and talk about chess :)05:16
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DShepherdohmannnnn: kool so are all of us also...KOOL! :)05:16
praxhey ubotu.05:16
praxcomo le hago?05:17
ohmannnnnand i still dont know where to look why and who banned "oskude"...05:17
SEJeffprax: /j #ubuntu-es05:17
fletch33yo nectar05:17
dooglusohmannnnn: I showed you.  It was Seveas05:17
nickruddooglus 02:30 < oskude> ubotu tell oskude about demoscene.tv05:17
nickruddooglus 02:31 -!- mode/#ubuntu [+b %oskude!*@*]  by Seveas05:17
ohmannnnnis Seveas a bot ?05:17
SEJeffohmannnnn: no05:17
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Madpilotohmannnnn: ping Seveas, ask him how you earned the ban, and stop whining about it...05:18
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ohmannnnnor i just forget my support efforts for ubuntu and leave ur all alone...05:18
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nickrudohmannnnn, Seveas teaches geeks, and get over it. He didn't kick your ip, just your nick05:19
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gpledhas anyone had trouble with printers under ubuntu?05:19
dooglusohmannnnn: I got banned from #mandrake a while back.  I left them to it as a matter of principal and came here instead.05:19
nickrudgpled, lol, oh yeah05:19
durtim banned from #slackware05:19
ohmannnnnnickrud, didnt see Seveas teach me before banning :)05:19
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nickrudI'm done05:20
nelsonOh, great, #ubuntu attracts people who have been banned elsewhere.05:20
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nickrudyeah, but they behave here cuz it's so much better05:20
gteppelhas anybody had trouble getting their SB Live 5.1 working with breezy? I can't see to find any help on the forums05:20
nickrudgpled, what kind of printer problems?05:21
SEJeffohmannnnn: Have you tried talking to an op when they are around?05:21
gplednickrud: hp laserjet 5L.  used to work.  works on windows.  but not on my new ubuntu :(05:21
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slewhow do i get ubuntu to show me its uptime?05:22
ohmannnnnSEJeff, well, after my (oskude) there has be no op online...05:22
crimsunohmannnnn: it's very simple. Don't talk about anything vaguely related to warez, even if it's not clear it's not warez or otherwise.05:22
ohmannnnncrimsun, warez ?! how do you come to that i talked about warez ?05:22
gpledslew:  uptime05:22
nelsonnickrud: hehe.05:22
slewheh figured05:22
Madpilotohmannnnn: there are several ops here - they're just not op'd in...05:22
nelsonMadpilot: that's what we do over on #handhelds.org.  Stealth ops.  You have to be polite to everyone.  Works a charm.05:23
echostormnobody has an idea on this install problem? damn I really wanted to run ubuntu :(05:23
nickrudgpled, I'm hoping someone else knows the answer :)05:23
Madpilotactually, Seveas is...05:23
crimsunohmannnnn: 'scene' is a common string for it. Even if whoever banned you doesn't know the particular circumstances about what the demos really are, it's suspicious enough.05:23
tryingsomethingdoes the soundbloweruper xifi work on ubuntu?05:23
Madpilotnelson: I think Freenode encourages stealth oping - other channels to it too05:24
crimsunohmannnnn: in other words, it's best to be explicit about it05:24
ohmannnnnlol, demoscene = warez ?! OMG05:24
nickrudand here I thought it was the egalitarian attitude :)05:24
crimsunohmannnnn: I didn't say it is warez, because I'm familiar with it. However, whoever banned you might not be.05:24
SEJeffohmannnnn: rules are rules, play by them or not05:24
DShepherdTHE END05:24
ohmannnnnwhere do i get the rules of this room ?05:25
ubotuconduct is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view05:25
Madpilotohmannnnn: there ^^^05:25
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ohmannnnndidnt found "scene" there...05:25
rob1ohmannnnn, no one cares05:25
dnBcan someone remind me how to restart a program using inet.d?05:25
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ohmannnnnyeah, right05:25
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nelsondnB: it's program-dependent.05:26
MagicFabdnB: /etc/init.d/xxxxxxxx start05:26
nelsondnB: but generally you can say /etc/init.d/foobar stop05:26
gpleddnB: which program?05:26
nelsondnB: followed by start.05:26
dnBthanks guys05:26
dnBall i needed to know05:26
SEJeffnelson: no, he said inet.d. That is xinetd05:26
nelsondnB: some init.d scripts let you say "restart"05:26
dnBill try restart, otherwise stop start05:26
ohmannnnnand how do i now remove my "demoscene" addition form "ubotu" ?05:27
crimsunohmannnnn: the ban was due to a misinformed string. Can we get beyond that?05:27
gplednickrud: are you having printer trouble too?05:27
nelsonSEJeff: er ... um ... uh, yeah!05:27
ohmannnnni just want "oskude" get "unbanned"05:27
nickrudgpled, yeah, pdf's freeze my printer, and I have problems with landscape/portrait in openoffice05:27
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Madpilotohmannnnn: your ubotu factiod seems to already be gone05:27
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nickruda cheap hp psc05:28
ohmannnnnMadpilot, roger05:28
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SEJeffnelson, nevermind, I'm thinking of rhel05:28
dnBthanks guys05:28
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ohmannnnnMadpilot, btw. it was "demoscene.tv"05:28
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ohmannnnnthnx crimsun :)05:28
nelsonSEJeff: *is* there such a thing as inet.d??  /me confesses that his Ubuntu box is not up right now.05:28
Madpilotohmannnnn: it's gone. /msg ubotu list to see what it knows05:29
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oskudehello world :)05:29
MagicFaboskude: hey05:29
oskudethnx crimsun !05:29
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oskudewas my ban because of "demoscene.tv" or too much use of "ubotu" ?05:30
SEJeffnelson: If you have xinetd installed, /etc/xinetd.d is a valid directory containing xinetd scripts for services like ntp05:30
nickrudnelson, no, inet.d doesn't exist05:30
SEJeffnelson: I was wrong05:30
Madpilotoskude: "/msg ubotu list" to see what it knows, btw...05:30
praxhola, hola,05:30
praxalguien que me pueda orientar?05:31
nelsonAhhhh, yes, Fedora uses xinetd and it has /etc/xinetd.d.05:31
oskudeMadpilot, thnx05:31
ianIf I rebuild my Breezy box with a TV tuner card installed will the installation process automatically detect and cofigure the card? Or will I still have to manually install the drivers when the build completes?05:31
crimsunian: just insert the card, power the machine back up, and use it.05:31
trappistsort of depends on the card05:32
nelsonian: i'm sure that's the goal.  Whether it works or not is probably dependent upon which board it is.05:32
praxhey crimsun05:32
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iancrimsun: if only it was that easy...05:32
SEJeff!info vsecurity05:32
trappistif it's a bttv chipset it should work fine05:32
trappistif it's a newer ivtv it'll take some work05:32
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crimsunian: sure, which is why there is a bug reporting facility if it isn't05:32
icemanI need help changing my Video card from the onboard to a add on card ...05:32
oskudeim still interested on WHY i got banned...05:32
praxtoc, toc, toc, hay alguien en casa?05:32
rob1oskude, let it o05:33
nelsonWWJD? JWRTFM!      http://www.nancybuttons.com/catalog.cgi?o_custom=&o_selected=&ids=03710&chk3710=1&action=Button%20Baggie     Ya gotta love Nancy's Buttons.05:33
crimsunoskude: for the last time, he probably confused the string "scene" with that -other- scene.05:33
iancrimsun, is it a  bug if it doesnt work?05:33
SEJeffoskude: Well you are not any more. PLEASE stop whining abou tit05:33
trappistcrimsun: if (for example) it's an ivtv card, it's not a matter of bugs.  there are licensing issues with the required firmware.05:33
crimsunian: it can be05:33
iancrimsun, hmm.05:33
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icemanAnyone able to help me change primary video cpntrollers in ubuntu05:33
drcodehi all05:34
durtwatch the language there SEJeff ;)05:34
drcodesorry for asking again05:34
iantrappist, You have any experience with IVTV05:34
crimsuntrappist: sure. That doesn't preclude filing a bug. We'll just close it with pertinent info attached if necessary.05:34
drcodewhere I can find upgrade info from hoary to breezy05:34
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crimsundrcode: see the topic05:34
nickrudnelson, that's one I want to read :)05:34
iantrappist, What PVR card do you have?05:34
trappistcrimsun: my point is not every card will work out of the box or will EVER work out of the box, through no fault of the developers05:34
trappistian: 25005:35
praxcrimsun, sabes de una sala hispana?05:35
SEJeffprax: /j #ubuntu-es05:35
icemanDang it, Ubuntu has me stuck at 640x480 resolution .... on the onboard card ...05:35
crimsuntrappist: I'm well aware of that, though you seem to have misunderstood my original response, which was (paraphrased) "Just try it".05:35
iantrappist, You have MythTV up and running or just TvTime?05:35
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nelsonnickrud: Nancy has some excellent sysadmin-related buttons.  It's WAY too easy to buy several dozen.05:35
praxgracias. pero esta mas sola que mi alma05:35
crimsunprax: no05:35
trappistcrimsun: I guess I did.  my bad :)05:35
oskudei was advised to apologize (freenode), i did apologize for "abusing" ubotu, and who apologizes at me :) (yeah, i DONT have any rights here..)05:36
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trappistian: I don't use it anymore, but I did have mythtv running05:36
pretzelwhat do you think is the best partioning structure for a 40GB harddrive with both Win XP and Ubuntu?05:36
fletch33just wondering there are a way to many apps available on synaptic when u choose all is there any way to know what the cool ones are or can or should u pick them all05:36
trappistpretzel: depends which you use more and for what05:36
Madpilotoskude: would you please just drop it?05:36
iantrappist, Im struggling with the IVTV setup...05:36
pretzeltrappist, I'm a newbie05:36
nelsonpretzel: 0% for Windows and 100% for Ubuntu?  :-)05:36
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trappistpretzel: but keep in mind linux can read and write fat32 and windows can't touch linux partitions05:36
pretzellol, I can't go cold turkey05:36
icemanwheres the x11.conf file located05:36
pretzeltrappist, I realize that05:36
trappistian: yeah it's not very straightforward05:36
oskudeMadpilot, not until some1 apologize at me :)05:36
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iantrappist, the forums are full of HowTo05:37
iantrappist, but they are all adifferent and none work for me.05:37
Madpilotoskude: or until you get yourself banned again for spamming the channel?05:37
nelsonnickrud: You are in the presence of a system administrator.....KNEEL     http://www.nancybuttons.com/catalog.cgi?o_custom=&o_selected=&ids=02902&chk2902=1&action=Button%20Baggie05:37
nickrudIf it doesn't work, change the documentation <---05:37
oskudeMabus06, lol05:37
axisysanyone know of a live radio and a good app to use to listen to it?05:37
bob832asked this question earlier, was wondering if anyone had any thoughts. . . .how can i change the keyboard volume buttons from changing master to PCM?05:37
trappistian: where are you stuck?  I don't remember all the details of the process but we might get lucky05:37
pretzelshould I have a seperate partition for linux?05:37
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nelsonI don't flirt with death. She runs up and sticks her tongue in my ear.05:37
iantrappist, Firmware05:38
icemanhow do i reconfigure my video from a onboard nvidia to a Installed nvidia ?05:38
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trappistpretzel: you need to have a separate partition for linux.  just leave it blank and the installer will deal with it.05:38
fletch33anybody have any help for picking what packages i should choose in synaptic05:38
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fletch33there are 1000's05:38
pretzelwhat min partition size do I need for it?05:38
Amaranthfletch33: for what?05:38
nickrudbob832, you'll probably need to disable the stuff in metacity, and use some other means: hotkeys, or the equiv05:38
fletch33ii dont know the cool 1's to get05:38
trappistian: debian has an unofficial repository with packaged firmware.  not sure if ubuntu does, but the debian package will work.05:39
nelsoniceman: you mean the boot video?05:39
Amaranthiceman: disable the onboard one in your bios05:39
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fletch33where do i start05:39
nelsoniceman: your BIOS ought to say "Gee, he put in a video card.  Maybe I'm supposed to use it."05:39
icemanAmaranth no bios setting i looked dang emachine05:39
axisyswhat is a good app to listen to live radio?05:39
Amaranthfletch33: generally you have an idea of something you want first05:39
trappistaxisys: xmms05:39
Amaranthiceman: i'd hope it was smart enough to autodisable05:39
nelsoniceman: but then again, I can't STOP my BIOS from doing that, so when I put in a video card, I end up with only one usable video card.05:39
SEJeffaxisys: rhythmbox05:40
trappistaxisys: or mplayer05:40
nickrudfletch33, try apt-cache search <keywords> , things that might interest you05:40
oskudeaxisys, and look in www.shoutcast.com05:40
bob832nickrud: i did change the volume controls in the task bar to change PCM but the keys still change master05:40
fletch33amatanth how do i highlight my comment and add your name in this xcaht05:40
axisysoskude: can i use xmms to listen to shoutcast?05:40
oskudeaxisys, yes05:40
nickrudfletch33, steamtuner, oskude made me think of that05:40
fletch33like how u just responded to me05:40
nelsonAmaranth: actually, I think that's the wrong behavior.  I'd prefer to be able to use both onboard and video cards, and set one or the other as primary.05:40
icemannelson ubuntu see's both, but pipes to the onboard05:40
pretzelIs it okay if I set it up this way: 5GB for windows, 5GB for linux, and the other 30 for data storage?05:40
icemanwhere the x11 configuration file05:40
trappistfletch33: any line with your nick in it gets hilighted05:40
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SEJefffletch33: If someone says your name, it highlights it05:40
oskudeyes, streamtuner/streamripper is a good all-in-one thing05:40
nelsoniceman: is X not setting you up with two X screens?05:41
nelsoniceman: it *ought* to give you two screens.  It really ought to.  It should, anyway.05:41
nickrudbob832, it's at a lower level than that, I think. I did it for a different distro a while back, I haven't got around to setting it up again.05:41
fletch33how do i quicly say your name do i have to type it out05:41
nelsonfletch33: type a few letters and hit tab.05:41
icemannelson one x starts on the onboard... nothing on the second screen05:41
fletch33ne thnkas05:41
icemanplug in and blank05:41
fletch33it didnt work ther05:41
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fletch33nelson, ooh got it05:42
nickrudfletch33, just type a few characters like 'nick' and hit the tab key, you can cycle through some names.05:42
axisysi am going to give vlc a try05:42
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nelsoniceman: is the monitor getting a signal?  Does it automagically turn itself on?05:42
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axisysmy firefox automatically detected that for shoutcast05:42
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fletch33ok so i didnt see it in a different color did u05:42
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nelsoniceman: because it it's turning itself on, then the video card is actually working, it's just displaying all black.05:42
SourcerorI want to print something in Linux.  I've plugged the printer into my motherboard, and it's powered.  So what else do I do?05:42
trappistfletch33: your irc client does the hilighting, not the server.  it's to let you know someone's talking to you.05:43
icemanIf i plug in to the installed card i get a vid signal, no screen display05:43
Amaranthfletch33: When I say your name it shows in a different color for just you. It's the same if someone says my name.05:43
fletch33or does just nelson see05:43
fletch33that is cool05:43
Amaranthfletch33: It's to make it easier for you to follow who is talking to you in a large channel (like this one).05:43
pavelichanyone here familiar with eclipse05:43
nelsonfletch33: any colors you're seeing are entirely in your irc client.05:43
fletch33big time very nice05:43
ilba7rany one know if toshiba qosmio (25 us /20 the rest of the world) have good support or not on ubuntu05:43
oskudeSourceror, what port (usb, parallel) is your printer using ?05:43
Amaranthfletch33: So if you're talking to someone here it's usually a good idea to put they name in front of the line like I'm doing here. Otherwise they might miss it.05:43
fletch33i am usind xchat is that the best to use on ubu05:43
nelsonfletch33: what's nice?  tab completion??  Yes, tab completion is teh rock.05:43
Amarantherr, their name05:44
fletch33k thanks05:44
Amaranthxchat is the best GUI irc client05:44
SourcerorIt's a big one.  Parallel?05:44
pavelichanyone here familiar with ECLIPSE and creating c++ project, or what binary parsers are05:44
Amarantherr, i broke my own rule05:44
DShepherdgaim is nice too05:44
Amaranthpavelich: Nope, sorry.05:44
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fletch33nelson, yeah it helps to know u r talking ot me that is sweet05:44
bob832nickrud: oh ok05:44
AmaranthDShepherd: It's too general.05:44
DShepherdAmaranth: general is good05:44
nelsonAnimal testing is a terrible idea--they get all nervous and give the wrong answers05:44
icemandamit how to change video controlers05:45
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fletch33nelson, ha!05:45
bnDcan anyone help me out with how to "iptables-save > /etc/sysconfig/iptables05:45
bnD" in ubuntu? trying to save iptables configuration05:45
fletch33nelson,  ooh yeah im in the game now05:45
trappistbnD: that's all there is to it05:45
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nelsonfletch33: yep, there ya go.  Try tab completion of filenames in the shell as well.05:46
nickrudbob832, yeah, it sucks here too05:46
trappistbnD: well, you'll need sudo05:46
bnDtrappist, didnt work05:46
bnDperhaps wrong location for iptables05:46
fletch33nelson,  what is that05:46
SEJeffbnD: /etc/sysconfig is a redhat directory05:46
bob832nickrud:  i was looking through some of the files in /proc/asound but had no luck05:46
bnDSEJeff, ah ok05:46
nelsonfletch33: command line.  "In The Beginning, There Was The Command Line."05:46
trappistbnD: you can put it anywhere you like (that exists) as long as you restore from the same place05:46
fletch33nelson,  what i sthe shell05:46
DShepherdfletch33: gaim is good too...with guificattions.........it rocks!!!05:46
bnDanyone know where iptables is located?05:46
praxsomebody speak spanish?05:46
trappistbnD: `which iptables`05:47
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bnDtrappist, ?05:47
nickrudbob832, ask again later, there are people here who know sound backwards and forwards05:47
trappistbnD: run that command05:47
nelsonfletch33: when you run System Tools/Terminal, you get a shell.05:47
bnDah, thanks05:47
fletch33nelson,  ooh i have that and use it for my instant messenger so i should us ethat for this 205:47
bob832nickrud: alright, thanks05:47
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nelsonprax: no hablo espaol.05:47
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bnDwow* sorry05:47
bnDpermission denied05:47
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bnDwith sudo05:47
trappistbnD: sudo05:47
fletch33nelson, i havent gotten that far yet05:47
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bnDtrappist, brandon@edubuntu:~$ sudo iptables-save > /sbin/iptables05:48
bnDbash: /sbin/iptables: Permission denied05:48
fletch33nelson, lol05:48
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icemanAnything i can do to set the second video card to work05:48
trappistbnD: don't do that!  you're trying to overwrite iptables itself.  put it somewhere else, like maybe root's home directory or /etc or something05:48
nelsonfletch33: there's a world of pleasure at the command line.  Much power available to you.05:48
bnDhow do i save the configuration?05:49
nelsonfletch33: the trouble with the command line is that you have to remember what you want to do.05:49
praxnelson: do you know some chat to spanish?05:49
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fletch33nelson,  i just started to use this 2 dayz ago and this is my first try at linux and to be honest i am very  very frustrated05:49
trappistbnD: iptables-save > /etc/myrules for example05:49
bnDand would that autoload?05:49
nelsonprax: yo tengo nunca palabras.05:49
zoexiihello, how does one remove configuration of eth0 from the startup script?  I use wireless, and it holds things up.05:49
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SEJeffprax: join the #ubuntu-es channel. with /j #ubuntu-es05:49
trappistbnD: no, you'd have to iptables-restore < /etc/myrules05:49
bnDso theres no way05:49
bnDto permanently save a configuration and have it used?05:50
TodFlanderszoexii do you ever want to use wht0?05:50
fletch33nelson,  i know windows inside and out i i feel like i am touching a compyetr for the first time05:50
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trappistbnD: unless you have an iptables init script, in which case check it out to see where it tries to restore from05:50
zoexiiTodFlanders, no, not so much,05:50
bnDthanks ;)05:50
trappistbnD: try /etc/init.d/iptables save active05:50
nelsonfletch33: ahhhh, I see.   Hmmm...  I've been using the Unix command line for uh, about twenty years now, so I don't know where to tell you to start.05:50
oskudefletch33, :)05:50
SEJefffletch33: You know what microsoft lets you know of windows. You really can learn linux inside and out05:50
TodFlandersok, open /etc/network/interfaces file as sudo in gedit05:50
thrice`nelson: 20 years?05:50
DShepherdfletch33: I felt the same way...linux and windows are different sometimes, depending waht you are doing..the learning curve can be steep05:51
zoexiiTodFlanders, it is possible that I might need to use it someday, but it would be quite an exception to normal use,05:51
TodFlanderszoexii, their should be something that says etho0 auto intet or similar05:51
bnDtrappist, it autoruns, however it isnt in init.d05:51
bnDany thoughts?05:51
fletch33i understand that i really didnt know anything i just new how to get it to work not why05:51
nelsonthrice`: yep, I actually started in 1982, but had a three year hiatus after that.05:51
icemanc r  a  p    damit how to reconfigure video05:51
trappistbnD: what autoruns?05:51
bnDits running upon boot05:51
oskudeif you started with dos (like i) linux will be a dream :)05:51
bnDhowever its not under /init.d05:51
zoexiiTodFlanders, right, but I do not know where the startup script is kept, or what it is called,05:51
fletch33now i really dont know anyhting05:51
cafuego_and stay away from /etc/sysconfig if you're not using redhat05:51
bnDoskude, my mom feels the same way05:51
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DShepherdfletch33: LInux = HUmans are the thinkers..not computers ;)05:51
trappistbnD: honestly I'm not on my ubuntu box atm so I'm not sure where else to look05:51
nelsonthrice`: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:hp-cvd!russ&start=10&hl=en&rnum=11&selm=bnews.hp-pcd.80605:51
bnDwell trappist, thank you ;)05:52
oskudebnD, my mom uses still windoze, gotta make those install ubuntu video tutorials :)05:52
TodFlanderszoexii, if you put a # infront of the eth0 auto i think it skips it on boot05:52
SEJeffoskude: agreed. I started with dos05:52
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SEJeffoskude: dosshell is the best gui M$ has ever designed05:52
fletch33i could stop using windows if i could just get my contacts and emails from outlook into ubu05:52
oskudeSEJeff, yeah :)05:52
zoexiiTodFlanders, yes, but in what file?  I do not know what it is I must modify,05:52
fletch33i am stuck and have been working on it for 2 days05:53
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fletch33i need them for work05:53
nelsonfletch33: indeed.05:53
thrice`nelson: which distro?05:53
nickrudSEJeff, lol05:53
TodFlanderszoexii, sorry you may have missed above but that should be possibe from /etc/network/interfaces05:53
thrice`well, I guess linux wasn't aroudn yet05:53
oskudeSEJeff, i wonder how OSX user react seeing a text-console for the first time :)05:53
fletch33it is the only hting holding me back from a complete switch05:53
trappistfletch33: when I first started in linux I didn't have internet access and I spent two months getting my sound card to work.  once I discovered irc and google things started going a lot smoother.05:53
zoexiiTodFlanders, right on,05:53
nelsonthrice`: what?  What distro was I using back in 1982??05:53
SEJeffoskude: yes, that would be entertaining05:53
cyphasewhy can't i compile a mono app that uses Gtk# in ubuntu?05:53
thrice`nelson: yes; but I meant variant, as distros weren't around yet05:54
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fletch33well i am getting frustrated with this email and contact thiing05:54
TodFlanderszoexii, that interfaces file executes on boot i believe so just comment out the eth0 and it should just load your wireless05:54
SEJeffcyphase: because you need to install mcs and the libraries probably05:54
icemanGod dam linux and the hard configurations .... how to get better resolution05:54
thrice`cyphase: what's the error?05:54
oskudecyphase, i love to compile, what are you compiling, url ?05:54
fletch33i ahve way way way too many to do it by hand05:54
fletch33i even thought about it05:54
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cyphasehello world.cs(1) error CS0246: The namespace `Gtk' can not be found (missing assembly reference?)05:54
cyphase    Try using -pkg:gtk-sharp05:54
cyphasehello world.cs(2) error CS0246: The namespace `GtkSharp' can not be found (missing assembly reference?)05:54
cyphase    Try using -pkg:gtk-sharp05:54
cyphaseCompilation failed: 2 error(s), 0 warnings05:54
trappisticeman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:54
cyphasei thought that was only 2 lines05:55
fletch33but then i realizionrd i would have to take a 2 week vacat05:55
nelsonthrice`: lemme see, it was an old HP 68000 box.  Probably bsd4.205:55
thrice`cyphase: you have gtksharp installed?05:55
cyphasei think so05:55
cyphasei checked in synaptic, and i have..05:55
fletch33ooh by the way i type 2 ways slow and sloppy and ssssllllloooowwww05:55
thrice`cyphase: that's the first thing you should be looking for05:55
oskudecyphase, when you compile things, you mostly need xxxx-dev packages05:55
nelsonthrice`: but then in 1985 I started using a sysv/bsd bastardization, with all the incompatibilities of both.  A Gould.  We called it the ghoul.05:55
zoexiiTodFlanders, got it, thanks.05:55
cyphasei have libgtk-cil installed05:55
SourcerorHow do I print with Ubuntu?05:55
thrice`nelson: interesting05:56
nelsonSourceror: that's a difficult question to answer.  That's why you didn't get an answer earlier.05:56
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TodFlanderszoexii, no problem, hope that works, just remember for future if you ever try to use it :)05:56
SourcerorUh huh.05:56
oskudeSourceror, fisrt, whats your printer ? and how its connected to pc ?05:56
cyphasei found it05:56
cyphasei was looking under l, for lib05:57
Sourceroroskude, it's a Lexmark laser printer... it's connected by a parallel port cable.05:57
cyphaseit's called gtk-sharp, and gtk-sharp205:57
bnDdoes anyone know how to correctly save iptables configuration?05:57
thrice`is anythign in backports yet?05:57
oskudeSourceror, what lexmark exactly ?05:57
cyphasei want gtk-sharp2, right?05:58
SourcerorIt's labeled Z22.  I think it prints by laser.05:58
oskudeSourceror, sec...05:58
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thrice`cyphase: looks like it05:59
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oskudeSourceror, try here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19470&highlight=lexmark+z35+printer06:01
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fletch33does anyone have any idea why evolution wont let me choose file type when i go to import for my email if i could figure this out i could get my email imported06:01
myrth_how do i enable power wlan card?06:01
myrth_i mean power to wlan card?06:01
fletch33i can not even choose automatic like it says i can06:01
DShepherdfletch33: try thunderbird....that may work06:01
SEJefffletch33: Maybe you should try thunderbird. I prefer it over evo06:01
durtmyrth_ you might need ndiswrapper - ask google06:02
fletch33thunderbird only imports 1 type and it is not the 1 need06:02
myrth_but it has wireless configuration in kubuntu06:02
SourcerorIt is possible that if I restart my computer it will detect my printer?06:02
myrth_i need to install some more?06:02
oskudeSourceror, you could try06:02
fletch33i have read that it will import my emails which i transferd in windows thru mozilla mail06:02
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SEJefffletch33: Well I have something you might like06:02
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SourcerorOK what's a common script that would detect a printer and how do I make it run now?06:03
SEJefffletch33: This company does windows --> Linux migrations. They open sourced the linux part of their client06:03
SEJefffletch33: http://openmoveover.sf.net06:03
oskudeSourceror, dunno, sry06:03
josh__does anyone know how to serve games with ubuntu?06:03
tritiumSourceror, sudo invoke-rc.d restart cupsys06:03
fletch33have u used it i read about it06:03
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oskudejosh__, server games ? you need the game server for that06:03
tritiumSourceror, then check to see if you can add a new printer, and if it's automatically detected when you try to add it06:03
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fletch33SEJeff,  do u know it works and of so what version06:04
josh__the game server being what?06:04
oskudejosh__, server version of the game you want to serve...06:04
josh__oh, do you have any ideas of where i can download that if possible?06:04
SourcerorThanks tritium, but it failed.  Thanks for the tutorial oskude06:04
oskudejosh__, which game ?06:04
josh__call of duty united offensive06:05
MrFartswhere are sudo groups defined ?06:05
oskudejosh__, sec...06:05
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tritiumSourceror, you restarted cups and then tried to add?06:05
SourcerorNo I just copy-pasted what you typed.06:05
tritiumSourceror, then you didn't do as I suggested06:06
MrFartsanyone ?06:06
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SourcerorI have an Add a Printer dialogue up, and it didn't have anything in its list.06:07
oskudejosh__, do you have the small or large version form here http://www.callofduty.com/uopatch/ (bottom of screen)06:07
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myrth_durt: even if it says that ath0 is UP ?06:07
bob832another sound related question - checking out audacity but it says i have no playback or recording device?06:07
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josh__hold on ...06:08
hit3kCan someone help me with my network problem I cant see windows machines and i have samba installed06:08
tritiumSourceror, is this after restarting cups?  Was your printer plugged in and turned on before you restarted it?06:08
oskudejosh__, i would suggest using the "large" version...06:08
Sourcerortritium, I need to take a break.  THanks for your help.06:09
oskudejosh__, and as it is an "binary" release, i think you just have to unpack it and run a command...06:09
josh__alright so i put it on say my desktop and unpack it and run it?06:09
oskudejosh__, could be somthenign so easy :)06:10
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superbeasthow do i get my audigy 2zs working with ubuntu06:10
josh__alright i'll do that, if that doesn't work i'll come back, thanks for the help.06:10
oskudejosh__, just read the readme file in the package, should be easy06:11
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josh__alright thanks06:11
oskudejosh__, np, your welcome06:11
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oskudetritium, ? what are you trying to say through ubotu =06:13
OrbordeWhat package would I want to get for a unix-to-dos plain text conversion (you know, a util that converts the line breaks and whatnot)?06:13
tritiumOrborde, sysutils06:14
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tritiumit has the tofromdos tools06:14
oskudetritium, ok, got it "your welcome" "youre welcome" or "you're welcome" :)06:14
tritiumoskude, oh, ok06:14
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Orbordetritium: Thanks06:15
oskudetritium, nitpicker :)06:15
jorgeui'm having problems trying to install ubuntu 5.04. If i create a swap partition, then all task freeze. Even the live cd freeze trying to create user, i think that the swap it creates is broken. Any idea? know problem?06:15
tritiumoskude, :)06:15
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hit3kCan someone help me with my network problem I cant see windows machines and i have samba installed06:15
tritiumjorgeu, might I suggest you install 5.10 instead?06:15
oskudetritium, but (really) thanks for the info, didnt notice it (that it should be "youre" not "your")06:16
jorgeutritium, i request for free CDs and they sent me the 5.04 version06:16
tritiumjorgeu, are you able to download 5.10?06:16
jorgeutritium, recently06:16
jorgeutritium, no06:17
tritiumokay, jorgeu06:17
jorgeutritium, that's why i depend on free ship06:17
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tritiumjorgeu, all right06:17
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hit3kCan someone help me with my network problem I cant see windows machines and i have samba installed06:18
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oskudehit3k, i think with samba windows should see youm not you should see windows...06:19
rob1hit3k, try http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-samba-server06:19
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LaptopSwordhello :)06:20
hit3kHow do I see windows machines then?06:20
LaptopSwordsomebody know a good dvd playing thingy?06:20
rob1LaptopSword, xine, totem06:20
freddyhello, im having a difficulty with gnome-bittorrent, i cant find a place to change the port it uses, do you guys know how to change it? thanks.06:20
LaptopSwordok thx rob106:20
rob1freddy, you have to do it on the command line, see man gnome-bittorrent for more info06:20
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LaptopSwordand do u know how to get those windows codecs like mpeg and avi and shit?06:21
rob1LaptopSword, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-music-and-movies06:21
oskude!tell LaptopSword about w32codecs06:21
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EdLinLaptopSword, I like ogle; if one is just playing DVDs.06:22
LaptopSwordwell ogle doesn't work here for some reason maybe i should reboot my system?06:22
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EdLinLaptopSword, rebooting seldom solves problems in Linux, that's a more Windows approach. :)06:23
ICE9is anyone running glftpd on ubuntu ?06:23
LaptopSwordwell i haven't tried rebooting since i installed some programs06:23
LaptopSwordso gtg do that bbl06:23
EdLinLaptopSword, installing programs is a lot less dangerous to your system's stability in Linux too.06:24
LaptopSwordwell anyways brb ;)06:24
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superbeasthow do i install wine?06:26
rain`Should I avoid usb headphones wshen using linux? Does their being usb mean they have to install some kind of driver when you plug them in? Does this work with linux/ubuntu?06:26
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jorgeusuperbeast, did you try $sudo apt-get install wine ?06:27
oskudesuperbeast, sudo apt-get install wine :) (sry havent never used wine)06:27
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superbeastmichael@mike:~$ sudo apt-get install wine Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.06:27
superbeastThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or06:27
superbeastis only available from another source06:27
superbeastE: Package wine has no installation candidate06:27
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sfChrisJacobHey all, I am haveing some problems getting dual head configured... RightOf and LeftOf keywoeds seem to have no effect... The screens are on the wrong sides, and short og physicly moving them, does anyone have any ideas?06:28
oskudesuperbeast, could be that wine is in "universe" or "multiverse"06:28
jorgeusuperbeast, do yo have uncommented the universe repos in /etc/apt/sources.list ?06:28
superbeastremove the #?06:28
jorgeusubterrific,  yes06:29
intelikeycan anyone tell me what kind of line to add to xorg.conf to adjust the mouse speed ?06:29
MrFarts where exactly can i get the ms core fonts package for ubuntu ?06:29
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oskudeMrFarts, isnt MS copyrighted...06:29
rain`sfChrisJacob: Are they both external monitors?06:29
Amaranth!info msttcorefonts06:29
MrFartsoskude, the fonts are freely distributed06:29
nelsonoskude: the ms core fonts are free as in beer.06:29
ubotumsttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB06:29
intelikeyi'm looking at the mouse portion but there is nothing about sensitivity  ?06:30
mustard5intelikey, you on gnome?06:30
MadpilotMrFarts: they're in Ubuntu's Multiverse06:30
intelikeymustard5 no flux06:30
MrFartsMadpilot, i tried enabling it in the repository config06:30
AmaranthMrFarts: install that06:30
MrFartsmaddler, no go06:30
sfChrisJacobrain`, yes06:30
jorgeuMrFarts, go to a Windows machine, copy in some media all the .ttf you need and back to the linux box and paste them in a shared font folder06:30
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MadpilotMrFarts: Multiverse & the mscore fonts work here...06:31
Amaranthjorgeu: Not legal.06:31
MrFartsPackage msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package.06:31
MrFartsThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or06:31
MrFartsis only available from another source06:31
Amaranthfscking bot06:31
zack_hey guys, anyone use WINE frequently?06:31
Amaranth!tell MrFarts about repos06:31
MrFartsi have no idea what that means06:31
MrFartswhat in the world does that error mean06:31
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zack_hey guys, anyone use WINE frequently?06:31
AmaranthMrFarts: yeah, you need to enable the multiverse repository, look at what ubotu just PMed you06:31
MrFartsit seems that debian is still as beligerently unfriendly as ever06:31
MrFartsAmaranth, i wish the errors were a bit less preposterous06:32
Amaranthzack_: Please don't repeat yourself.06:32
MrFartswhat in the world does "referred to by another package" mean06:32
rain`sfChrisJacob: what kind of connections on your computer? vga/vga, vga/dvi,dvi/dvi  (doesnt matter what monitors are)06:32
AmaranthMrFarts: Well, it can't read minds...06:32
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AmaranthMrFarts: I don't see how that error message can say anything different and still actually make sense.06:32
MrFartsAmaranth, i did enable the multiverse repository06:33
sfChrisJacobrain`, Two VGA from a GeForce FX 520006:33
zack_hey guys, anyone use WINE frequently?06:33
oskudeMrFarts, use "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources" and add "multiverse" after the line "...main restricted" in there06:33
intelikeyive got 4 options corepointer device protocol and emulate3button ,     there is a string that can make it less sensitive isn't there ?06:33
AmaranthMrFarts: and ran sudo apt-get update? (or clicked reload in synaptic)06:33
tritiumsfChrisJacob, you're using TwinView?06:33
superbeastwhat is the command to update i forgot?06:33
EdLinMrFarts, you probably need the universe repository too06:33
hit3kHow do i view Windows computers in the Networks folder?06:33
superbeastsudo apt something06:33
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oskudeMrFarts, did you do "apt-get update" after adding ?06:33
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Amaranthzack_: ...06:33
sfChrisJacobrain`,  No, I don't beleive so...06:33
MrFartsoskude, yes06:33
oskude* "sudo apt-get update"06:33
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rain`sfChrisJacob: Are you currently using two device sections in your xorg.conf?06:34
zack_amaranth ...06:34
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Amaranthzack_: If someone does they will answer, you don't have to repeat it once a minute. You'd have to tell us what problem you're having with it.06:34
tritiumsfChrisJacob, if you have an nVidia card, you should be using TwinView for dual head06:34
zack_how do you expect to get a question answered if you can only ask it once, and then no one answers it06:34
sfChrisJacobrain`, No... just one Device section06:34
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tritiumsfChrisJacob, see the docs in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx06:34
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ICE9trying to copy the /usr/lib to glftpd/lib but I get a permission denied even when I sudo it06:34
intelikeysuperbeast sudo apt-get update06:34
oskudeMrFarts, well, i could install that "msttcorefonts" and i have universe and multivers in apt sources...06:34
zack_im not having a problem with it, im asking if anyone uses it06:34
AmaranthChanServ owned Seveas :P06:34
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MrFartsoskude, no go06:35
sfChrisJacobtritium, Thanks for the tip... I will check it out06:35
rain`tritium: TwinView is nice in some cases, but for me I prefer dual head06:35
oskudeMrFarts, hmm... somethings wrong on your side..06:35
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tritiumrain`, twinview provides dual head06:35
{{corona}}hi is there a way to do a fsck on the etx2 filesystem without mount?06:35
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Amaranthzack_: I toy with it from time to time and read the devel mailing list.06:35
Kman^I uh.. have a problem running make files (I think)06:35
MrFartsoskude, honestly this is very dissappointing06:35
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rain`tritium: I mean the dual xserver method, sometimes that way is better06:36
MrFartsseems that debian hasn't been able to solve its problems in 6 years06:36
MrFartsthe installer is still shit too06:36
SteveYeah!!! got my ATI Drivers working!06:36
sfChrisJacobtritium, I have both working.. they are just on the wrong sides.... RightOf and LeftOf don't seem to change anything06:36
zack_i heard it is unstable, your opinion?06:36
AmaranthMrFarts: Language.06:36
{{corona}}ICE9: how you copying it?06:36
MrFartsAmaranth, what about it ?06:36
crimsun{{corona}}: do you mean on next boot or on next mount?06:36
oskudeMrFarts, could you post the line containing universe and multiverse in sources.list ?06:36
EdLinMrFarts, if you still have a Windows partition, you can copy Windows's *.ttf fonts to a ~/.fonts directory and they will Just Work (and look better than the old corefonts)06:36
MrFartsdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted multiverse06:37
MrFartsdeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted multiverse06:37
AmaranthMrFarts: Please don't swear.06:37
MrFartsEdLin, what do you mean "still have"06:37
MrFartsi never had one06:37
{{corona}}crimsun: my root is corrupted and i want to run fsck, tried using system rescue but wont mount it06:37
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EdLinMrFarts, OK, then never mind.06:37
oskudeMrFarts, wrong, NOT in security...06:37
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AmaranthMrFarts: That's breezy-security, you need to edit the line that says for just breezy06:38
intelikey{{corona}} you don't fsck a mounted partition06:38
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{{corona}}oh yes i forgot06:38
oskudeMrFarts, like this: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted universe multiverse06:38
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rain`sfChrisJacob: A great website about both non-twinview and twinview is here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors#Nvidia06:38
crimsun{{corona}}: boot to a live/install cd and e2fsck -Cf the partition06:38
{{corona}}but then how do i run fsck on say ext2-fs06:38
Kman^Could somebody help me install xvid codecs?06:38
Aven: apt-get is an unknown command06:38
MrFartsok, now it works06:38
oskudeMrFarts, and dont forget "sudo apt-get update" after modifyoing..06:38
EdLinMrFarts, though occasionally the -security universe repository gets security fixes so you might want to leave that.06:39
AvenI keep receiving that error06:39
Aven: apt-get is an unknown command06:39
ICE9if I'm getting permission denied what can I do06:39
ICE9trying to copy something06:39
MrFartsoskude, already did that06:39
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AvenICE9: use sudo06:39
ICE9sudo does not work06:39
intelikey{{corona}} you run it on the device-node   'sudo e2fsck /dev/hd?#06:39
ICE9what else06:39
Stevedoes anyone know of a player better than amaroK?06:39
Xer0_h4xICE9, run sudo -s06:39
Avenit should06:39
ICE9chmod + x does not work06:39
Xer0_h4xthen run it06:39
oskudeMrFarts, and do you now get it ?06:39
ICE9what does -s do06:39
{{corona}}crimsun: intelikey: how do i run it on device-node?06:39
Xer0_h4xICE9, try it06:40
Xer0_h4xits like using su06:40
Avensudo -s would work, probably06:40
Xer0_h4x(like other linuxs)06:40
mtupperhey all, anybody help me get my sound to work on an HP Pavilion dv1000 laptop...   It worked fine after ubuntu install, then I installed KDE desktop and now no sound...06:40
rain`Should I avoid usb headphones wshen using linux? Does their being usb mean they have to install some kind of driver when you plug them in? Does this work with linux/ubuntu?06:40
Xer0_h4xsudo -s06:40
Xer0_h4xthen the commands06:40
wickedpuppyAven, what you typed to get that apt-get error ?06:40
Aveneverytime I type 'su' I always get 'wrong password'06:40
intelikey{{corona}} you run it on the device-node   'sudo e2fsck /dev/hd?# '  <---- like that but where the ? is the letter and the # is the partition number06:40
ICE9cp: cannot create regular file `/glftpd/bin/ldconfig': Permission denied06:40
Avenwickedpuppy: it was a joke sorry, hehe :P06:40
MrFartsoskude, yes, it's installed06:41
sfChrisJacobrain`, Thanks for the site... I'll check it ouy06:41