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mmiikkee12i like ubuntu already - didn't have to reboot after updates ;)12:00
Cran1988?12:00
pjottfunkyHat, I have: "Systemverkty" (English: Systemtools)12:00
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Cran1988?12:00
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bluefoxicygnomefreak:  one's a laser printer12:00
gnomefreakmmiikkee12,  im not sure any linux has to reboot after updates unless its kernel or something like that12:00
bluefoxicythe one I need12:00
mmiikkee12 btrue, but this is the first distro i've ever actually updated...12:01
GedionsenCan't find a way to add a custom app to a shortcut...12:01
mmiikkee12*true12:01
Cran1988?12:01
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Siph0ndo ppl here use subversion? and if so what version?12:01
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/Diagram2.png12:01
gnomefreakok bluefoxicy lets try this in a network there is a base computer and than you have extra computers. the one with the printer is that a base pc or an extra?12:02
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bluefoxicygnomefreak:  check the idagram12:02
bluefoxicy*diagram12:02
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wolverianhmm, can't find relevant help in the eclipse docs12:02
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bluefoxicy(that funky lightening thing is a serial link, since it's USB)12:02
bluebloodHow do I search for dirs?12:02
wolverianI also can't just uninstall gcj, since eclipse-base depends on it12:02
dooglusblueblood: "locate"12:02
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wolverianthat seems to indicate that ubuntu _really_ wants me to use gcj instead of sun's vm :)12:03
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dooglusblueblood: or "find / -type d -name dirname"12:03
bluefoxicyblueblood: places->search for files12:03
GedionsenCan't find a way to add a custom app to a shortcut... Does anyone know?12:03
pjottfunkyHat, Found it ;)12:03
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bluefoxicygnomefreak:  you got it now?12:03
blueblooddooglus, bluefoxicy, thanks12:03
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_jasonGedionsen, you want to add a launcher to a custom app?12:04
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gnomefreakbluefoxicy, your modem has to be attached to one of the pcs or a 3rd pc your diagram soesnt show that12:04
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gnomefreakdoesnt*12:04
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  my cable modem is attached to a router.12:04
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bluefoxicygnomefreak:  start at the cloud that says "internet" and move down slowly.12:04
calamarihi12:04
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BROKEN_LADDERahh man!  i just edited clearlooks to make it flat and have zero saturation in its greys, and it looks sweeeet.12:05
Gedionsen_jason Already have that, but i don't know how to assign a shortcut like Ctrl+Alt+?12:05
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  here's a hint:  the linksys wrt54g is physically stationed inside my house.12:05
gnomefreakbluefoxicy, i understand that but you have a ehternet cord from pc-router and modem to router right?12:05
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  yes.  That's what a router is for.12:05
gnomefreakyes now what port is the modem plugged in?12:06
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bluefoxicygnomefreak:  Port 1 on the router.  Icegate is plugged into port 2 on the router; icebox is plugged into port 3.12:06
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Siph0ncan neone tell me if there is a help file for what each file color means? like when i type ls and some are light blue and other files or dark blue12:06
_jasonubotu, tell Gedionsen about shortcut12:06
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gnomefreakok bluefoxicy  either way try the routers ip it should work12:07
cafuego_Siph0n: That's user-configurable, so no real meaning.12:07
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  explain exactly why the router's ip should work?  The router isn't broadcasting printing packets, and it knows not of the two printers on Icegate.12:07
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  at the same time, why exactly would the remote ubuntu machine be sharing the printer without me having configured it to do so12:07
BurgerMannMy friend wanted to disable the GUI and was told that sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*gdm would do the trick. However the command he was told to enable doesn't work. What do he do?12:08
thrushSiph0n: type file filename that should give u a pretty good idea12:08
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Siph0noh k... neway to see the defaults? cause some of my files are a light blue, and i think its suppose to be a command, but when i type it it says not command12:08
Siph0nk12:08
Siph0nthanx :)12:08
calamariI'm not sure what happened (perhaps the Breezy upgrade?) but I can no longer run Java JAR's by double-clicking them.  To try to fix it I wrote a shell script javajar which works fine from the command line, but it doesn't seem to help when running from gnome12:08
cafuego_Siph0n: normally, blue would be a directory, yellow an executable file/script12:08
gnomefreakthe router sees the pc your pc will send info through router to printer12:08
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bluefoxicygnomefreak:  the router is not hosting a print server.12:08
mmiikkee12BurgerMann: apt-get remove gdm?12:09
gnomefreakthe router is hosting the pc with the printers no?12:09
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  the remote computer (icegate) is also not broadcasting over the network anything about the printer.12:09
cafuego_Siph0n: run 'dircolors' for a list of what's currently set.12:09
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Siph0nk, i did file filename for a light green file and it said shell script executable12:09
Siph0nthanx! :)12:09
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  the pc sees the printer, and uses it; it does not advertise to the network that there is a printer there, thus across the network nothing is saying that there's a printer.12:09
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  ok let's try talking about windows.12:10
gnomefreakblue the pc your on now with-out the printer will send infor to printer using the ip address12:10
cafuego_purple would appear to me media (sound,image,video)12:10
BurgerMannmmiikkee12: I'll tell him. Thanx12:10
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  in windows, you right click a printer, and hit, "Share"12:10
mmiikkee12yw12:10
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  Windows begins broadcasting packets that say, "I am sharing a printer.  It is called CLP-4000."12:10
gnomefreakbluefoxicy,  i am sharing a printer right now threw a router12:10
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  Now, on a remote PC, you say, "Look at the network.  List the printers available."12:11
cafuego_ Siph0n: The format is *.EXT=ANSICOLORCODE;12:11
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  and that PC says, "I found a CLP-4000"12:11
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sivanghi all12:11
mmiikkee12wtf, synaptic doesn't have supertux?12:12
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  Now step back, the remote host (Icegate) is running Linux instead of Windows.  Ubuntu Linux is not broadcasting samba packets.  It's not advertising that there's a printer connected to it.12:12
cafuego_!info supertux12:12
ubotusupertux: (Classic 2D jump 'n run sidescroller with Tux), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.1.2-4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 234 kB, Installed size: 664 kB12:12
Orbordemmiikkee12: Yes it does. I'm *playing* it.12:12
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  so unless my computer has hacked into it and taken remote control, there's no way it knows there's a printer there.12:12
cafuego_mmiikkee12: universe12:12
Siph0nthanx cafuego and thrush, thats exactly what i needed to know :)12:12
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bluefoxicygnomefreak:  I need to find the Linux equivalent of right-clicking the printer and telling the machine to share it.12:12
mmiikkee12it's not in my synaptic, even in universe12:12
Gedionsen_jason ty, your the bomb...12:13
gnomefreakbluefoxicy, look you may have to go through the list and find the printer to set it up in cups than use ip address of router for network if you think that im wrong try looing at your help icon and see what that says or try ubuntu.wiki.org12:13
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  ok, but the printer is not there in cups.12:13
bluefoxicycafuego_:  when you plug a printer in, does it automatically broadcast to the network that you have it?12:13
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_jasonGedionsen, yw12:13
gnomefreakbluefoxicy, windows and linux share nothing i mean nothing (as in same) you can share your windows printer but i dont think cups will help there i wouldnt know i hate windows12:13
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cafuego_bluefoxicy: Uh, if you are it on MacOSX, sure.12:14
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  see, that's the thing.  I have a printer installed through cups, but cups isn't sharing it.12:14
bluefoxicycafuego_:  UBUNTU.12:14
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cafuego_bluefoxicy: dude12:14
mmiikkee12apt-get worked12:14
pundaihey i got this today: W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>12:14
pundaiwith synaptic12:14
cafuego_out-of-the-blue question == out-of-the-blue answer ;-)12:14
gnomefreakbluefoxicy, if your printer is not listed in cups that is a sign that there isnt drivers for it12:14
Klownerso I went through some local LUG posts, so far I've seen.. "Unbuntu", "Umbunto, and "Unbunto"12:14
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cafuego_!gpgerr12:15
ubotuIf you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.12:15
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mmiikkee12pundai: try it again12:15
bluefoxicyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrinterSharing?highlight=%28share%29%7C%28printer%2912:15
pundaimmiikkee12, uh why...12:15
bluefoxicy"In Breezy it is nontrivial to make a locally installed printer accessible to other computers in the network. This should be simplified , and there should be a GUI for configuring it.12:15
bluefoxicy"12:15
bluefoxicyok12:15
sivanganybody have an idea how to set up ATI X300 On breezy?12:15
pundaiwhy did it happen12:15
bluefoxicySO THERE IS NO WAY FOR ME TO DO THIS12:15
bluefoxicyTHANKS GUYS.12:15
gnomefreakif your printer is already hooked to ubuntu linux on other pc your printer WILL be in cuos list12:15
cafuego_bluefoxicy: Calm down.12:15
mmiikkee12oh, do that ^12:15
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  on my pc?  No, it's not.12:15
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bluefoxicygnomefreak:  it's in the list on the other one.12:16
pundaimmiikkee12, cafuego_ why did the error happen12:16
cafuego_cafuego_: I am _not_ just online here helping you, I am also dealing with paying clients in real life.12:16
gnomefreakit should be in the list on this one too12:16
cafuego_pundai: us.archive is a bad, bad machine.12:16
pundaii see cafuego_ talks to himself12:16
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  exactly why should it eb on the list on this one?  If I plug directly into the cable modem, will the whole world be able to print to my printer automatically?12:16
pundaicafuego_, interesting..12:16
gnomefreakunless ofcourse the other pc isnt runnning debian12:16
mmiikkee12who knows...12:16
bluefoxicythe pc is running ubuntu12:16
gnomefreakanyone with your routers ip address can12:16
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Stormx2gimme something usefull to do towards the ubuntu project12:17
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Orbordebluefoxicy: Get it working before worrying about security12:17
crimsunStormx2: there're hosts of ways to get involved12:18
gnomefreakunless your fire wall blocks me i can set this computer to print on ur printer12:18
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mmiikkee12Stormx2: make an Ubuntu Blue theme - i hate brown12:18
mmiikkee12;)12:18
thrushStormx2: if u go to school sneak into the computer room and install ubuntu on all the machines12:18
mmiikkee12that too ;)12:18
cafuego_bluefoxicy: You can at any time edit /etc/cups/* and edit the config files, so sharing works.12:18
WXanyone here want to help me figure out if my PSU isn't providing high enough quality voltages?12:18
WX+12V:     +12.46 V12:18
WX+3.3V:     +3.12 V12:18
Stormx2thrush: You think I havn't done that?12:18
WX+5V:       +4.85 V12:18
WX-12V:     -14.91 V12:18
cafuego_WX: Stop pasting!!!!!!12:18
WXare those voltage readings bad?12:19
KlownerWX: is it being unstable?12:19
WXyeah12:19
Stormx2thrush: I net sent, they banned my windows account. I just booted up ubuntu and used that12:19
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WXcafuego_, sorry only had 4 lines to paste12:19
cafuego_WX: There is _no_ pasting here.12:19
gnomefreakWX, use pastebin12:19
WXKlowner, yeah it crashes quite often12:19
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cafuego_Not even "only 4"12:19
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WXwow let's all be rule nazis12:19
ompaul!tell WX about paste12:19
WXu've spent more lines correcting me12:19
cafuego_WX: Wow, let all 500 users paste "only 4" lines.12:19
mmiikkee12WX: no rule for you!12:20
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mmiikkee12:P12:20
WXhaha12:20
gnomefreakompaul,  why bother he cant read the topic?12:20
cafuego_Why do YOU need to special and an exception?12:20
bhearsumhow do i get the source code of a package?12:20
Stormx2Ubuntu blue theme has been done (ubuntuforums.org), and i've already had to tell my school's admins i have root.12:20
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bluefoxicyhttp://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/Screenshot-Printers_01.png http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/Screenshot-Printers_02.png http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/Screenshot-Printers_03.png http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/Screenshot-Printers_04.png12:20
Siph0nlol12:20
crimsunbhearsum: make sure you have the deb-src line(s) uncommented, then apt-get source package12:20
bhearsumcrimsun: thats what i thought...i'm getting errors though. Could not open file firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu20.dsc - open (13 Permission denied)12:20
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  Note that the 3745 is shown for CUPS and for the HP driver finding it, so those two entries are the local printer.12:20
WXcafuego_, quit whining... why would everyone paste a few lines at the same time?12:20
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ompaulbluefoxicy,  tinyurl.com is useful 26 character url for that12:20
bhearsumi tried browsing the repo, too, but i couldn't find it12:20
cafuego_WX: That isn't the point.12:21
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gnomefreakompaul,  that was more than one :(12:21
Stormx2what else... hmm12:21
cafuego_WX: One 1 person is allowed, there's no reason to tell others they can't. Ergo, no pasting. End of story.12:21
bendbI am running Hoary, and can't use lpr from the command line:12:21
markybobthis couldnt be more off topic if i tried, but which actor does this guy look like?  i cant remember the name and it's driving me nuts.  http://www.markybob.com/camelot.jpg12:21
ompaulgnomefreak, so three entries :)12:21
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  look at the pictures.  That's the entire process of pointing at my router.  Do you see something here?  (Hint:  There's 2 printers on the remote computer and one on the local)12:21
crimsunbluefoxicy: hmm? It's right here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/12:21
bendbblout@chipmunk:~ $ lpr12:21
bendblpr: error - scheduler not responding!12:21
crimsunbluefoxicy: sorry12:21
gnomefreakthe second url is that one the pc with the printer or not?12:22
crimsunbhearsum: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/12:22
cafuego_WX: if you disagree, take it up with an op.12:22
WXok let me talk to chanserv12:22
WXhe's prolly as helpful as you12:22
bhearsumcrimsun: oh, the source is the .orig + the diff, right?12:22
crimsunbhearsum: yes12:22
bhearsumduh, heh12:22
bhearsumthanks bud12:22
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  the second one is my machine, it detected my local printer twice12:22
cafuego_WX: Where exactly did I agree to helping you?12:22
WXlol12:22
Stormx2cafuego_, WX: shut up >.>12:22
WXthanks Storm12:22
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bluefoxicygnomefreak:  both entries are my local 3745 printer.12:23
cafuego_(apart from informing you of channel policy, thus probably preventing you from being kicked off?)12:23
bendbI have cups configured, via 'sudo gnome-cups-manager', and the test page prints fine.12:23
crimsunWX: to put the issue to rest, pasting more than 3 lines unless excepted by a specific request from an op is the guideline here12:23
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Stormx2!paste12:23
ubotufrom memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text12:23
darrochfamilyI just installed thunderbird with apt-get and I got a funny error message saying that I hadn't specified a maxdepth option.  can anyone tell me what it meand? I have pasted it in flood12:23
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WXok12:24
WXinstead12:24
Stormx2WX: I know it seems silly, but if we allow exceptions lines can get big ;-)12:24
gnomefreakthis last url is showing the ml-2550 is this not the laser printer and why is it you dont have it set to network?12:24
WXokay storm12:24
cafuego_darrochfamily: That's a command in the post-install script messing up; did the install finish OK?12:24
WXi ahve an idea12:24
Stormx2WX: Listening =)12:24
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bluefoxicygnomefreak: ?12:24
jepcubedmarkybob: thanks now that is going to bother me all night :)12:24
darrochfamilycafuego_ , I think so12:25
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  when i hit next from 03, it went there.12:25
gnomefreakthose screenshots are from the pc without the printer hooked to it?12:25
cafuego_darrochfamily: Just ignore it then :-)12:25
Stormx2I was going to get involved with the Ubuntu-IE team, but they are all communists...12:25
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  yeah.12:25
WXVCore:     +1.32 V  |   +12V:     +12.46 V   |   +3.3V:     +3.12 V    |   +5V:       +4.85 V   |   -12V:     -14.91 V         <--- does this reading look bad?12:25
markybobjepcubed, you know who i'm thinking of, right?  i cant even remember what movies his been in, but i know i've seen him12:25
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darrochfamilycafuego_ , Iok thanks12:25
Stormx2WX: No idea ;-)12:25
WXStormx2, lol12:25
jepcubedmarkybob: yes, it is killing me now ...12:25
gnomefreakok the pc without the printers should be set to network not local12:25
Stormx2I'ma go see how the ubuntu-ie team is going12:25
Stormx2I still have op permissions on their channel...12:26
gnomefreakthe pc with the printers should be set to local12:26
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cafuego_Stormx2: They're undoubtedly in teh pub.12:26
TerminusWX, +3.3V seems a bit too low for my tastes and -12V seems to be too big. that's just me.  :)12:26
vincent_does linux ubuntu have some sort of ascii-table in it?12:26
gnomefreakbluefoxicy, you say it went through but yet you still cant print12:26
cafuego_vincent_: man ascii12:26
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  it blindly says whatever.  I can put the URI as 111.111.111.111 if I wanta nd it works.12:26
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r0bbyhow do I redownload the keyrings?12:27
ompaulcafuego_, pub that something to do with ftp?12:27
defendguinis there any way to more tightly integrate gmail into my desktop.  when i click on an email link in a webbrowser i dont want evolution to come up i want open a window for gmail so i can compose it there??12:27
gnomefreakbluefoxicy, depends on what works means cause it works means to me is that u can print12:27
WXTerminus, lol that's what i was thinking12:27
cafuego_ompaul: only insofar as you can normally type 'mget beer'12:28
Grug2hey guys, if I have a .bin install file, how do I actually install from it?12:28
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  your printer is connected to your network via an ethernet connection isn't it12:28
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bluefoxicyi.e. hp jetdirect12:28
r0bbyGPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release: Couldn't access keyring: No such file or director12:28
gnomefreaka router12:28
cafuego_Grug2: Depends on what it is.12:28
bluefoxicyprinter->router->computers?12:28
oskudeGrug2, form where, where there no instructions ?12:28
Grug2its the sun java sdk12:28
bendbWhere would be a good place to ask about getting lpr to work on my Hoary system that is running cups?12:28
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cafuego_Grug2: it varies from jjst running it to converting it to removing it and using  aproperly packaged one instead.12:28
TerminusWX, maybe it's time to change the PSU? i remember frying a mobo because we ignored the voltage readouts. =D12:28
bluefoxicysee my printer isn't a print server, it's a printer.  It doesn't have its own ethernet interface, or its own IP.12:28
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gnomefreakpc with printer and router than my pc without either just an ethernet connection to router12:28
cafuego_Grug2: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java12:28
Grug2but its just a bin file... under windows, i just click and it works12:28
bluefoxicyhuh12:28
oskudeyeah, on windows i just click :)12:29
Grug2well at least it works under windows easily :)12:29
bluefoxicythis is pissing me off12:29
gnomefreakbluefoxicy, look im telling you how to make it print either do it the way i suggest or ask someone else cause right now mine works great and im on a different floor as my printer12:29
dnBcan anyone help me out? i did a cd install of edubuntu, everything went well except 2% of packages couldnt be read from disk, im now @ command line only, so i tried to use apt-get install edubuntu-desktop (as the package is missing) however it prompts me to insert the cdrom (which cant be read) can anyone help me to get it to use a diff source? (i have a net connection working)12:29
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gnomefreakand the printer is only an epson c6412:29
cafuego_Grug2: You cna convert it to a .deb for ubuntu using the make-jpkg command (instructions via that wiki page). - OR you cna just use the blackdown prebuilt java 1.4.2, which is in the 'universe' repository.12:30
kvidellAre ShipIT cds coming in from The Netherlands?12:30
kvidellI have a mysterious box waiting for me at home from the Netherlands.12:30
mmiikkee12oh btw... is there still that problem where you run the risk of trashing an ntfs partition if you access it from linux?12:30
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  are you using ipp printing?12:30
cafuego_kvidell: Apparently12:30
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  or SMB?12:30
kvidellhm, okay.12:30
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gnomefreakhold on let me look\12:30
SourceYakohello12:30
cafuego_the dutch guys have all received theirs already12:30
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SourceYakoyup :)12:30
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thrushdnB: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list comment out # the cdrom line at top12:30
SourceYakogot a small problem here12:30
SourceYakoanyone willing to help?12:30
dnBthrush, thanks a lot <312:31
kvidellMy mom thought it was a bomb or something (We're from The Netherlands and have the same last name as the kid being accused with some large kidnapping scandal out there right now, so she thinks we're going to be targeted *smacks his forehead*)12:31
dnB:)12:31
thrushdnB: then sudo apt-get update12:31
dnBthanks12:31
dnBbrb12:31
Grug2ok thanks - i figured it out... had to set execute permissions on the bin file12:31
gnomefreakipp12:31
cafuego_kvidell: Make sure to sprinkle some flour on the cds and yell ANTHRAX!!!12:31
SourceYakoI mounted 3 NTFS filesystems to /media/stuff12:31
kvidelllol12:31
kvidellShe'd fall over.12:31
SourceYakobut on opening the folders, they don't read12:31
dabaRstuff is a bad word:)12:31
dabaRSourceYako: permission not granted?12:31
SourceYakonope12:32
mmiikkee12can you still access them from windows...?12:32
SourceYakoit? 50012:32
gnomefreaktry sudo12:32
SourceYakobut I can't change it12:32
SourceYakoyup I can12:32
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crimsunyou need to mount them with umask=02212:32
SourceYakosudo dir /media/stuff works12:32
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mmiikkee12so would it be safe to access my win2k partition from here?12:32
SourceYakobut I want to access them from the normal account to12:32
dabaRSourceYako: do what crimsun told you:)12:32
Nick_HillThe channel's topic is really mangled for me. I think an international character set has been used. Can the topic be written in UTF-8, C or ISO8859-1?12:32
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dabaRAdd that to the fstab file.12:32
SourceYakooh k12:32
dabaROr jkust mount like that.12:32
SourceYakothanks crimsun and dabaR12:33
gnomefreakmmiikkee12,  to me nothing about windows is "safe"12:33
dabaRexcellent12:33
markybobjepcubed still around?12:33
dabaRhaha12:33
varsendaggerhey i just updated to breezy how do i install xubuntu?12:33
Grug2win xp has been very safe for me12:33
SourceYakobtw crimsun12:33
mmiikkee12i mean accessing ntfs from linux12:33
dabaRGrug2: are you still here with taht xp talk?12:33
gnomefreakvarsendagger, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop12:33
SourceYakodoes that work with the breezy badger distro too?12:33
mmiikkee12i only have windows for my mom...12:33
Grug2? i am installing java now12:33
dabaRSourceYako: it is distro independent.12:33
SourceYakocuz fstab seems different to me from hoary12:33
markybobjepcubed, paul giamatti.  from sideways.  :)12:33
Nick_HillMy 78 y/o dad uses Debian12:34
varsendaggernow i've allready installed xfce4 will that cause any problems?12:34
SourceYakoI'll try it though12:34
SourceYakothanks12:34
crimsunvarsendagger: nope.12:34
gnomefreakvarsendagger, no12:34
varsendaggergreat12:34
varsendaggerdo you promis?12:34
SourceYakobai12:34
gnomefreakyes12:34
mmiikkee12no :P12:34
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gnomefreakvar you can try this12:34
Orbordemmiikkee12: I know read is safe...not sure if they ever got writing to NTFS to a completely perfect state.12:34
gnomefreaksudo apt-get remove xfce12:34
gnomefreakor add purge in there if you like12:34
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Orbordemmiikkee12: That would do.12:35
gnomefreakthan sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop12:35
gnomefreakthat is if you feel safer that way varsendagger12:35
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BROKEN_LADDERhow do i make beagle auto start?12:36
varsendaggerdabaR, what is the FS licence, is that th one in sources.list or the one for this chat room12:36
BROKEN_LADDERthe deamen12:36
varsendagger?12:36
BROKEN_LADDERdaemon12:36
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varsendaggerneaver mind i wasn't serious any way12:36
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twisted_mapleanyone know why I get "Playback device not found" when trying to play midi?12:37
Nick_HillWho sets the channel topic? Does it look messed up for anyone else?12:37
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crimsunNick_Hill: your irc client doesn't properly support UTF-8 then12:37
Quest-MasterNick_Hill:  this part?12:37
gnomefreakit was set by tritium and no it looks fine12:38
Orbordetwisted_maple: AFAIK it's because MIDI is not set up by default on Ubuntu. Go searching the wiki/forums.12:38
Nick_HillQuest-Master, Yes12:38
thrushtwisted_maple: ah midi.. good luck man12:38
Quest-MasterNick_Hill: Yeah, I get it too ;x12:38
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Grug2anybody know if linux/ubuntu supports Windows .fon fonts (not ttf but raster?)12:38
Nick_HillSo it probably isn't in UTF 8?12:38
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twisted_mapleOrborde -- got all the sound card set.  Timidity works find... trying to get the EMU-8000 to kick in.  Mods are all loaded.  Devices (sequencer) is created.12:38
Quest-MasterNick_Hill: What client are you using?12:38
dabaRvarsendagger: free software klicences, and the other open source licences. They all disclaim all warranty, you can read the disclaimer from GPL for excample.12:38
dooglusBROKEN_LADDER: I used to get it to start from my ~/.gnomerc until I realised how much it affected system performance and removed it12:38
dtsi have ubuntu on my laptop. What's the best way to move the entire system to my new laptop?12:38
Nick_HillQuest-Master, X-chat12:38
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Quest-MasterNick_Hill: Dunno.. I'm using HydraIRC on Windows12:38
gnomefreak:(winblows12:39
Nick_HillSo it is almost certainly not in UTF-812:39
Orbordetwisted_maple: Okay, I have no idea, then. Sorry. :)12:39
oskudedoes anyone know of a program that show the disk usage, like "top" shows cpu usage ? (i can imagine that this aint so easy)12:39
twisted_mapledf12:39
twisted_mapleoskude: df12:39
gnomefreakisnt utf-8 unix only?12:39
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BROKEN_LADDERdooglus beagled hinders system performance?12:40
Orbordegnomefreak: Doubt it12:40
oskudetwisted_maple, you dont seem to know what "top" makes, but thanks12:40
funkyHatgnomefreak, no12:40
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gnomefreakoh ok ty12:40
funkyHatgnomefreak, don't ask me how to get it working on windows though ;)12:40
gnomefreaklol12:40
BROKEN_LADDERwhen is linux going to break into the 1990's with pervasive indexed file architecture, so that searches are instant?12:40
mmiikkee12# not sure what this does, but it looks important: - comment right before proc in my fstab :)12:41
gnomefreakthere is a free download of xchat for windows works pretty much the same12:41
oskudeBROKEN_LADDER, use "locate"12:41
gnomefreakyes i said free :)12:41
BROKEN_LADDERoskude lol12:41
BROKEN_LADDERoskude locate is an archaic program.12:41
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Grug2Can gnome use raster fonts from windows (.fon) ?12:41
BROKEN_LADDERoskude it requires a database to be occasionally updated.12:41
gnomefreakmy g/f is scared of linux so i found it for winblows12:41
BROKEN_LADDERGrug2 why would you want to do that?12:41
BROKEN_LADDERGrug2 just out of curiosity..12:41
dooglusBROKEN_LADDER: every time you create, edit or delete a file, the beagle daemon updates its database to make a note of the change.12:42
Orbordegnomefreak: Make her use Linux.12:42
BROKEN_LADDERgnomefreak lol.  mine is too.12:42
Grug2cause the fonts from linux are all fuzzy or distorted or something...12:42
gnomefreaklol12:42
BROKEN_LADDEROrborde dude..be realistic.  we don't all have nerdy girlfriends.12:42
Grug2i'd like to use the MS Sans Serif font12:42
Grug2if possible12:42
BROKEN_LADDERmy girlfriend is a literature major.  she's computer illiterate12:42
OrbordeBROKEN_LADDER: What does she do with her computer?12:42
gnomefreakfonts for linux are fine why not try to set your resolotion different12:42
Grug2but it is raster, not ttf12:42
dooglusBROKEN_LADDER: I deleted a copy of the kernel source tree once, and after about 2 hours of frantically trying to catch up with the thousands of deletes, beagled crashed my PC12:42
BROKEN_LADDERGrug2 then use the ms sans serif true type font.12:42
Grug2its not ttf though...12:42
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Grug2its a raster font12:42
Grug2.fon12:42
BROKEN_LADDERGrug2 look for .ttf files in windows and copy them.  there's a fonts directory.12:42
axelhello all12:42
bob832is there a way to display an address bar in nautilus?12:42
BROKEN_LADDERGrug2 it's also available as a .ttf12:43
Grug2ok - i'll try it... you know where the fonts directory is?12:43
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BROKEN_LADDERGrug2 i once copied all those windows fonts.12:43
BROKEN_LADDERGrug2 search for it.  it's easy to find.12:43
Grug2ok12:43
OrbordeBROKEN_LADDER: Computer illiterate people are prime candidates for Linux, because they don't do anything with their computers :)12:43
Grug2thanks ladder12:43
BROKEN_LADDERGrug2 windows seems to make it hard to copy though.  i had to make a zip of it and copy that.12:43
gnomefreakif i wanted windows font i wouldnt have come to this side of the os elevater12:43
BROKEN_LADDEROrborde lol12:43
BROKEN_LADDERgnomefreak windows has some great fonts dude.12:43
mmiikkee12what are the correct dump/pass options in fstab for ntfs?12:43
axelHelp, anyone knows how i can overcome a "cannot execute binary file error (im trying ipodlinux installation)12:43
BROKEN_LADDERgnomefreak the freesans font, for instance, is atrocious12:43
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Grug2linux fonts look great when printing, but horrible (to me ) on the screen12:44
Nick_HillOrborde, It is probably not a good idea to *make* someone use GNU/Linux. Much better to tell them about it, lay out the ethical arguments then let them make their own decision. Pushing someone to use a different OS always results in rebellion in my experience.12:44
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mmiikkee12everyone use dos!!!12:44
lurah|offnite --->12:44
axelHelp, anyone knows how i can overcome a "cannot execute binary file" error (im trying ipodlinux installation)12:44
BROKEN_LADDERcan a linux file system automatically save dynamic file attributes and make an index that a program can use, if it understands that file system?  like in beos..searches were faster even than mac osx spotlight.  because the fs wase indexed like database, and the search utility knew how to interface with it..12:45
oskudeaxel, that would be like "why can i open the door". be more precise !12:45
gnomefreakBROKEN_LADDER, but i dont get if you know linux is not windows why not find a font that linux has to use that looks better ther eis a font package for the guy looking for it but i cant remember what its called i hate windows with a passion btw :)12:45
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OrbordeNick_Hill: The idea is to get people who won't know the difference to use it.12:45
mmiikkee12axel: try chmod 755 file12:45
OrbordeNick_Hill: (How condescending I am)12:45
BROKEN_LADDERgnomefreak i've never found comparable quality in free fonts.12:45
BROKEN_LADDERgnomefreak i hate windows too. with a passion.  even linux is frustrating for me, since i used to use beos.12:46
axelmmiikkee12, ivze already set all the permissions12:46
mmiikkee12oh12:46
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gnomefreaki dont see much of a difference really in fonts12:46
mmiikkee12then i give up...12:46
mmiikkee12try redownloading it, maybe corrupt12:46
gnomefreakmmiikkee12,  you just installed linux dont give up already12:46
Nick_HillOrborde, If someone is starting out and has no basis for comparison, then it is a good idea to just introduce them to GNU/Linux. But a grounding in the principles I think is a good idea too.12:47
pztaki'm having a strange problem.. i'm using a dell d600 laptop with ubuntu and recently i started using an external monitor (dell 2005fpw) at a different resolution, so i changed the resolution in xorg.conf. now even when i set the right resolution back and disconnect the monitor gnome won't load in the correct laptop resolution (1400x1050).. any ideas?12:47
mmiikkee12on axel's problem i mean12:47
gnomefreakoh ok12:47
mmiikkee12i'm still tweaking my system, hang on12:47
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gnomefreaki wonder if bluefoxicy ever got the printer printing12:47
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gnomefreakmmiikkee12,  with linux you can be tweeking your system for 10 years12:48
bluefoxicygnomefreak:  installing samba does it.12:48
BROKEN_LADDERdo any of you guys use clearlooks?  you know you can make the progress bar not have that atrocious "candy bar" striped look?12:48
r0dhow do i change the default program run w/ various extensions? want to xmms to run .mp3 instead of totem12:48
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mmiikkee12anyone know how to turn off the beeping when firefox can't find something in a page?12:49
axeloskude: well basicaly im executing something called make_sw, which should allow me to make a new firmware with linux for the ipod from a kernel specially made for ipod12:49
Sionider0d, right-click -> properties -> open with12:49
gnomefreaksamba is one of many programs that willl do it12:49
r0dSionide, default12:49
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r0dnot needed to do that12:49
r0d*needing12:49
Sionideeh12:49
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Sionideyeah you are12:49
sobersabrehi.. which is the latest openoffice2 ubuntu package ?12:50
axeloskude: except i get "./make_fw : cann ot execute binary file312:50
oskudeaxel, sry out of my knowledge :(12:50
r0dSionide, when i say default i mean double click and automatic it goes to xmms not totem12:50
Sionideyes! right-click a .mp3 file -> properties -> open with -> add -> xmms12:50
Nick_HillI'm off now, but if a moderator comes along, someone please have a word about the character set used for the topic. I am nto the only person to see this, and I don't think there are any glyphs there which need fall outside ascii.12:50
Sionidethe select xmms12:50
gnomefreaklatest openoffice2 package?12:50
oskudeaxel, do you have "file3" ?12:50
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sobersabregnomefreak yep.12:50
axeloskude; yeah a bit out of mine too it seems12:50
Avenhey, how do I set the total amount of MB space that can be used for a directory?12:50
r0dSionide, lol what a goof i am. i c what your saying12:50
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axeloskude; maybe not whats file312:50
oskudeaxel, or was file3 supposed to be file"12:51
Sionider0d, goof indeed - you said it! ;)12:51
gnomefreakwouldnt open office 2 be the latest package and just grab updates from ubuntu updater?12:51
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sobersabreAven it is usually done on a per partition/user/group basis. it is done by the means of quota.12:51
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Avensobersabre: ah ok12:51
Avenwell how do I set the quota?12:51
sobersabregnomefreak it is, but v.2.0 is out, and my current package is 1.9.129-0.1ubuntu12:51
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axeloskude, oh not i mistyped, its not file3 it was file"12:52
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Sionidesobersabre, ubuntu breezy has openoffice2.0 as default.12:52
Nick_HillI think the  characters in the topic should be |12:52
gnomefreaksobersabre, are you running breezy or hoary?12:52
axeloskude, end of brackets i ean12:52
oskudeaxel, can use use "./make_fw --help" ?12:52
BROKEN_LADDERr0d the file type settings in gnome are rather limited12:52
Stormx2Gimme something to do towards the ubuntu project...12:52
sobersabregnomefreak breezy.12:52
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MrFartshey12:52
gnomefreakoo2 is default12:52
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Stormx2hi12:52
jrsimswhen Dapper Drake is released, will I have to re-install? Or will I be able to update my Breezy Badger using Synaptic or something?12:52
MrFartsis there anything like yum for ubuntu ?12:52
Stormx2jrsims: Upgrade.12:53
Hobbseejrsims: you can dist-upgrade, yes12:53
r0dSionide, hows your knowledge w/ kde? they have a program w/ the ability to change any program/extension configuaration. is their a program for gnome that does the same?12:53
Sionidejrsims, you'll be able to upgrade12:53
gnomefreakapt-get = yum but different12:53
r0dSionide, w/o right click prop:D12:53
MrFartsgnomefreak, as long as it has dependencies and can update from a repository, it's ok with me12:53
jrsimscool. :)12:53
Sionider0d, *shrug* kde is poop, use kubuntu if you wanna use kde.12:54
MrFartsgnomefreak, can it do those things ?12:54
blizzoOOo 1.9.129 ist default12:54
Nick_HillMrFarts, Yes. The debian package management system is probably what inspired YUM. But it is somewhat more sophisticated.12:54
gnomefreakmrfarts thats only 1/4 of what synaptic (apt-get) can do12:54
r0dSionide, lol, i dont use kde. just asking if there is a tool similar to what i said. been looking for some time now12:54
MrFartsgnomefreak, cool12:54
gnomefreakOO2 is default in breezy12:54
gnomefreakOO1.9 is default in hoary12:54
axeloskude: i tried "./make_fw --help", it says again "cannot execute binary file"12:54
jrsimsI for one, would love to see a "fubuntu" - fluxbox + ubuntu. ;)12:54
sobersabregnomefreak can you run dpkg -l on any of the oo2 packages ?12:54
Sionider0d, don't know in that case12:54
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Nick_HillMrFarts, The debian package management system is probably the most sophisticated package management system. THere are several GUI and command line front ends.12:54
MrFartswould you guys say that running ubuntu on a server is a reasonable idea ?12:54
switchcatgreetings12:55
sobersabrejrsims or opuntu ( openbox ubuntu )12:55
MrFartsor is it a bit too bleeding edge ?12:55
gnomefreaksobersabre, i dont see why you would need to that is for debian packages12:55
oskudeaxel, show me what "ls -lah make_fw" prints (1line please)12:55
crimsunMrFarts: sure. There is, after all, a server-oriented install.12:55
jrsimssobersabre: Hmm. Never used openbox!12:55
Nick_HillMrFarts, And Ubuntu is based on Debian, and is based on the Debian package management system.12:55
MrFartscrimsun, excellent12:55
MrFartsthanks12:55
MrFartsNick_Hill,  i ran debian pack in 1999 the last time12:55
MrFartsi quite liked it, but they are way too slow to update12:55
axeloskude: -rwxr-xr-x  1 axel axel 21K 2005-08-15 07:00 make_fw12:55
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MrFartsi was intrigued by the fact that ubuntu appears to to debian-based12:56
sobersabregnomefreak, what are you talking about ?12:56
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vincent_how do you make a picture with your webcam in linux ubuntu?12:56
Stormx2MrFarts: Well it is =)12:56
sobersabrejrsims , it is a fork of blackbox, rewritten from scratch.12:56
oskudeaxel, hmm, maybe its NO binary that you can execute12:56
Nick_HillMrFarts, For GUI, there is synaptic, kynaptic and command line curses aptitude and dselect, command line only: aptitude, dpkg, apt-get12:56
gnomefreaksober dpkg -i isnt needed for ubuntu packages only need if you are downloading and installing a package ubuntu doesnt have12:56
MrFartsNick_Hill, i prefer the commandline anyway12:57
Avenhm, how do I set a quota for a user?12:57
Nick_HillMrFarts, To istall a package, sudo aptitude install packagename12:57
MrFartsalthough the last version of dselect i used was something awful12:57
sobersabregnomefreak, I have asked you to run dpkg -l , not "i"12:57
dtsi have ubuntu on my laptop. What's the best way to move the entire system to my new laptop?12:57
MrFartshas it improved at all since then ?12:57
axeloskude:well, its supposed to, maybe its corrupt tho, im gonna try another nightly build version, brb12:57
gnomefreaksorry i thought that was i12:57
jrsimssobersabre: how does it compare to fluxbox?12:57
Stormx2dts: What do you mean?12:57
MrFartsAven, enable quotas in fstab, run quotaon12:57
blizzognomefreak: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/misc/12:57
sobersabrejrsims it doesn't ... openbox wins :)12:58
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MrFartsAven, and quotacheck12:58
blizzoopenoffice.org2-officebean (1.9.129-0.1ubuntu4)12:58
Stormx2Yay for gnome ;-)12:58
MrFartsAven, i think there is a HOWOT somewhere12:58
Avenwhat's fstab? :\12:58
Nick_HillMrFarts, Or try the curses dselect or aptitude.12:58
dtsStormx2: well I have laptop A which has ubuntu installed on it and I want to move the system to Laptop B12:58
thrushdts: do u need the entire thing? id just move my home directory contents maybe12:58
MrFartsAven, /etc/fstab12:58
Hobbsee!tell Aven about fstab12:58
Stormx2dts: Copy over? Can't you just fresh install?12:58
MrFartsNick_Hill, how many CDs is ubuntu btw ?12:59
dtscan i have a list of all the programs that are installed or something from apt and then automatically install them on the new system12:59
MrFartsNick_Hill, the website seems to imply thtat there is only one install CD12:59
MrFartsNick_Hill, seems a bit smaall12:59
Nick_HillMrFarts, The default install fits on one12:59
dtsbecause i don't want to reinstall everything i installed manually12:59
crimsunMrFarts: 112:59
Stormx2MrFarts: One.12:59
gnomefreakblizzo: i have no questions of what packages are where i have this set to my liking and i have OO2 like most all other breezy users12:59
jrsimssobersabre: one thing I like about fluxbox is that it's really lightweight (it is kind of a pain to jimmy with config files to customize it though). Is openbox just about as lightweight?12:59
MrFartsNick_Hill, the rest you have to get online ?12:59
Nick_HillMrFarts, However, there is a universe repository you can call on with 15000? packages12:59
Stormx2MrFarts: No.12:59
Stormx2MrFarts: It works fine without downloading anything else12:59
crimsunthe CD contains everything you need.12:59
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Stormx2MrFarts: But of course, you'll want to put more stuff on eventually ;-) Thats where apt-get or synaptic come in01:00
MrFartscrimsun, i guess i'm just used to seeing redhat in all its 7 CD glory :)01:00
Nick_HillMrFarts, If you need a large selection of packages offline, go for Debian sarge on 2 DVDs.01:00
crimsununiverse+multiverse contain about 17000 additional packages.01:00
gnomefreak<<<has uni and multi uni and backports :)01:00
MrFartsNick_Hill, actually i don't need that much stuff, especially on a server01:00
sobersabrejrsims you can always apt-get install/apt-get remove any package... that's what's so good about debian ( ubuntu variant )01:00
MrFartsNick_Hill, basically, i need gcc, some servers01:00
MrFartsNick_Hill, is that stuff included ?/01:00
Stormx2MrFarts: if you enter the server option on the install cd, you get what you need, methinks01:00
Nick_Hill!repositories01:01
uboturepositories is, like, How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list01:01
Avenerm01:01
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Stormx2MrFarts: gcc is available in the repos, yeah01:01
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Avenhttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab <-- I save the file as winmac_fstab ?01:01
MrFartsStormx2, it's not installed by default ?!01:01
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Stormx2MrFarts: I... don't think so. Not sure, mind.01:01
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dtsso no hints on how to keep the programs that are on my system installed01:01
MrFartsthanks, i'll check it out01:02
MrFartsit's only two cds to download i guess :)01:02
MrFartsi'll try the live cd thing first01:02
Stormx2MrFarts: But if you are running a server you'll have internet and hence access to download it ;-)01:02
Grugwow - just installed MS verdana fonts and all the sudden my screen looks GREAT01:02
Nick_HillMrFarts, The package management system is so good, you shouldn't worry about it. Just uncomment multiverse from /etc/apt/sources.list then...01:02
garrincha01:02
Stormx2Grug: BLASPHAMY!01:02
Gruglol01:02
Grugbut i love ubuntu now01:02
gnomefreakonly thing i wanna know is a list of GNU editoers for ubuntu other than emacs and vi and vi take offs01:02
Nick_HillMrFarts, sudo aptitude update01:02
Nick_HillMrFarts, sudo aptitude install packagename01:02
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axeloskude: dude im with stupid, i had the ppc not i386 by mistake01:03
Nick_HillMrFarts, It will pull in dependencies like libc-dev make etc etc01:03
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oskudeaxel, :)01:03
MrFartsNick_Hill, excellent01:03
Gruganybody know when the next release of ubuntu is?01:03
Stormx2MrFarts: Or simply "sudo apt-get install <packagename>" both work, you're more likely to see instructions with apt-get01:03
eternale1hey guys long time no talk which is actually a good think on a support channel :D01:03
NoobieDoobieDoUbuntu seems a little slugish, how can I improve performance ?01:03
eternale1thing*01:03
Nick_HillMrFarts, sudo aptitude install gcc01:03
jake37anyone having probs with amarok player? I have added recommended engines (arts and xine) and it will simply cycle thru playlist and not play anything...01:03
Stormx2eternale1: Yeah ;-)01:03
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MrFartsi have to take off01:04
MrFartsthanks for the info01:04
dabaRsee ya01:04
eternale1anyway i've ran into a problem looking into the upgrading01:04
Stormx2MrFarts: Good luck =)01:04
sobersabreNoobieDoobieDo whaat do you mean "sluggish" ?01:04
dabaRchange you rnick next time...01:04
Nick_HillOK, Np. I'm off too01:04
eternale1i tried that first part with removal of firefox packages01:04
eternale1and now it won't let me install the mozilla-firefox one , it fails to fetch01:04
eternale1the package01:04
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Avennoooooooooooo!01:04
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NoobieDoobieDosobersabre, i mean graphicly, like "screen tearing", screen delay, and so on.01:04
Avenfor fstab, I get: No usable windows/mac partitions found01:04
Aven:(01:04
BurkeHello01:04
eternale1then i try apt-get update and that fails01:04
NoobieDoobieDosobersabre, win2k by comparison, runs 'smoother'01:04
jake37dabaR > any experience with amaroK player?01:05
Stormx2!tell Aven about windowsdrives01:05
krogoth64how hard would it be to get to the xdm login screen on ubuntu from another computer?01:05
eternale1with some 404 errors01:05
gnomefreaksomeone just told me anjuta is GNU :) yayyyyyyyy01:05
dabaRjake37: /j #kubuntu01:05
dooglusNoobieDoobieDo: it will look smoother if you turn on x.org's backing store01:05
dabaRjake37: search the forums.01:05
jrsimsis there a clean way to run both OpenBox and Gnome with ubuntu?01:05
Stormx2eternale1: You should inform whoever maintains the repos - that shouldn't happen01:05
NoobieDoobieDodooglus, ic. is that simple to do or no ?01:05
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jake37dabar...I am using ubuntu w/ kde files added by installs only...is amarok a kde only prog?01:05
dooglusNoobieDoobieDo: not too hard.  you need to add a line to /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:05
NoobieDoobieDocool01:06
NoobieDoobieDothx01:06
eternale1hmm01:06
dooglusNoobieDoobieDo: only problem is I don't have my PC with me, so I can't see exactly what I added.01:06
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eternale1guess i won't be closing this firefox window ....01:06
eternale1;D01:06
oskudeaxel, do you still have the ppc file ?01:06
Stormx2eternale1: lol!01:06
NoobieDoobieDoic01:06
eternale1haha01:06
dooglusNoobieDoobieDo: it's something like :   Option "BackingStore" "yes"    in the graphic card section of the xorg.conf01:06
nickruddooglus, that's called bait and switch, or something like that ;)01:06
oskudeaxel, i would be intereste what "file" says to that file01:06
dabaRjake37: no, look where UI told you, dont make me type. /j is for join channel in irc.01:06
NoobieDoobieDodooglus, thx01:06
Stormx2eternale1: Hmmm... Try "sudo apt-get update"01:06
dooglusnickrud: no, I'm trying to help, I just don't have all the info to hand01:06
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krogoth64can I log in to X remotely?01:07
cfahi01:07
dooglusNoobieDoobieDo: you could try that.  the worse that will happen is X will refuse to start, so you just take the line out again...01:07
Stormx2hey01:07
jake37dabaR> k...have been searching forums already01:07
nickruddooglus, no, no, I think I can find it from that. Thanks, I'll look at it01:07
cfaany1 have a tablet01:07
eternale1did that with the same result01:07
eternale1s01:07
Stormx2cfa: Yeah, I have to take 4 a day...01:07
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NoobieDoobieDodooglus, i think it will also help to set the color depth to 16 instead of 24, that was my primary concern...01:08
dooglusnickrud: what it does is it keeps a copy of the graphical content of every window in RAM, so when you move things around, the windows underneath can be refreshed directly from the RAM copy, instead of the programs that created the windows having to do the work of working out what to redraw01:08
Grug!themes01:08
Gruglol01:08
Grugtell !themes01:08
Grugok i'm a n00b01:08
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Stormx2Grug: /msg ubotu themes01:08
Grugahh thanks01:08
dooglusNoobieDoobieDo: try the BackingStore thing - it made a huge difference for me.  Of course, it does use a little more RAM, so if you're short of RAM maybe it will make things worse.  All you can do is try it :)01:09
nickrudah. big memory, slow processor help. I might really want that.01:09
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NoobieDoobieDodooglus, in my xorg.conf there is no instance of 'backing store' but im asking google...01:09
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nickrudhttp://www.faqs.org/faqs/x-faq/speedups/ looks interesting01:09
Stormx2owwy i can barely type, me hands are so sore :-\01:09
dooglusNoobieDoobieDo: no, it's not there by default, but you can add it.  It's one word, I'm pretty sure01:09
cfaany1 have a tablet laptop01:10
NoobieDoobieDook01:10
Stormx2cfa: No, but whats the problem?01:10
cfai would like to get the pen to work01:10
RustyJugglerHow do I get the vnc server running, I have tried to use the guide for vnc4server, but it wont start01:10
Stormx2!tell cfa about laptop01:10
woody_vnserver01:10
eternale1little more investigating into the 404 errors on the update .. they all seem to be in hoary-backports directory01:10
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dooglusNoobieDoobieDo: find the section called "device" where it sets up your graphics card, and add Option "backingstore" "on"01:11
woody_what is the default root password on a ubuntu install ?01:11
britishseapowerwhy wont ubuntu play mp3s ? (just installed it)01:11
BROKEN_LADDERthe lady on air america radio right now has a fucking east coast + british accent.  weird.01:11
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BROKEN_LADDERoops..pardon my language01:11
Orbordewoody_: There isn't one01:11
Stormx2!mp301:11
ubotump3 is, like, totally, to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:11
doogluswoody_: by default the root password is locked.  we use 'sudo' to run commands as root.01:11
kinkoblastWill it mess up my install (default from 5.10 Ubuntu CD plus configed NDISWrapper for my Wireless card) if I install xubuntu-desktop01:11
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NoobieDoobieDodooglus, ok...01:11
woody_dooglus thanks01:11
oskudewoody_, you can set one with "sudo passwd" (and sudo asks your password)01:12
kinkoblastwoody_: There isn't one, root is disabled. Use sudo.01:12
jb__hi all, i can't adjust volume level on new 5.10 install - any suggestions?01:12
britishseapower!mp301:12
ubotuwell, mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:12
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Stormx2britishseapower: I just said that >.>01:12
doogluswoody_: so you can "sudo apt-get install package" and such like.  it'll ask for a password.  it wants YOUR password, not root's01:12
doogluswoody_: it'll only ask once - then it'll remember the password for 15 minutes I think01:12
Stormx2yeah 1501:13
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Stormx2Ctrl + Alt + Backspace ;-)01:13
oskudebtw. are there benefits for root not having a password ?01:13
RustyJugglervncserver says that it started whatever is in /home/myusername/.vnc/xstartup, but I still don't find it with netstat -t -l01:13
kinkoblastdogglus: For in that terminal, anyway.01:13
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Stormx2oskude: Security, user friendly, it means you arn't likely to overwrite important stuff in nautilus, etc01:14
cfastormx2, thanx i have been there any other ideas01:14
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bob832hi. . .i successfully changed the volume control in the tray to control PCM however, my keyboard buttons do not change it - what would i have to change to correct this?01:14
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woody_RustyJuggler it started remember to do the .vncrc if you want gnome desktop01:14
Stormx2bob832: You don't want it controlling master?01:14
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britishseapowerwhat a palava01:14
rawtekanyone here know how to set up wpa support with wpa supplicant01:14
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mmiikkee12now to find a nice aqua background01:14
Stormx2britishseapower: Not really. You only need to execute one line01:15
oskudeStormx2, well you KNOW your password, so u use sudo. what i wanted to know is it harder to hack a root without password, or so...01:15
bob832Stormx2: no, i'm on a laptop and need the PCM to be controled01:15
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NoobieDoobieDo<--- using no good intel 810 graphics card01:15
cafuego_mmiikkee12: http://www.cafuego.net/Aqua%20Blue.jpg01:16
nickrudNoobieDoobieDo, be also, I've just set it01:16
cfai tried this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/FujitsuT4010D, but it cashed X, i have a T4020D01:16
mmiikkee12cafuego_: 404 error01:16
Stormx2oskude: Well really, its a user thing. You'll find a lot of new users just use their root account for general work, its a big security risk, as root should only be used for admin (so that ports don't get left open, etc)01:16
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NoobieDoobieDonickrud, there really is little difference to the eye between 16 and 24/32 bit color depth01:17
RustyJugglerwhat is .vncrc?01:17
NoobieDoobieDoanyways thanks again all01:17
nickrudI run at 24, I'll do gl when I have a card that's worth it01:17
Stormx2oskude: ubuntu is different on that, it has an all-in-one account, were anyone hacking in won't be able to issue sudo remotely (i beleive)01:17
NoobieDoobieDoBYE ALL !01:17
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Stormx2oskude: And like i said, it stops users renaming "var" to "SUPER HAPPY DIRECTORY"01:17
dooglusNoobieDoobieDo: drag a window around quickly and you'll notice that there's no "gap" left behind while the redraw tries to catch up01:17
kinkoblaststormx2: I think you can use sudo remotly... Maybe it's my apple i'm thiniking of, but i've done it.01:17
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oskudeStormx2, and renaming "var" with sudo wouldnt work ?01:18
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rawtekneed a little wpa support here01:18
rawtekplease01:18
dooglusoskude: the main advantage is that people can't guess your root password - because you don't have one01:18
kinkoblastoskude: It would, but it's more trouble than it's worth,01:18
cfarawtek me too01:18
dooglusoskude: now they will have to guess your user password AND your username - that makes it harder01:18
cfai have Atheros01:18
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Stormx2oskude: It would, but by the time you know how to sudo and rename and use terminal, you would have decided against it.01:18
britishseapowerwhy doesnt firefox remember my settings?01:19
cfarawtek what do u have01:19
nickrudcat /etc/groups | grep admin <--- my target01:19
oskudedooglus, ok, that sounds good01:19
rawtekcfa I tried to read the forums about wpa suipplicant but I don't get it01:19
Stormx2britishseapower: Why not?01:19
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britishseapoweri remove the bookmark bar exit and restart and it reappears01:19
eternale1ah there we go :D01:19
nickrudif I was interested, even01:20
dooglusoskude: of course, you're probably not running a ssh daemon anyway, so the point is moot - but if you do, you'll be a little safer01:20
marlunI'm confused how does relative paths work in linux, I'm working some with HTML and now I want to show a image, i do src="images/image.jpg" but the images does not show. The image is inside the images directory.01:20
britishseapoweri am liking gnome tis nice....wish i had a larger display though01:20
eternale1just needed a little freenode inspiration01:20
Stormx2marlun: "./images/image.jpg"01:20
sNoJaCkhas anyond heard of a problem with booting 2.6.12 kernels and above?  I cant get breezy working but hoary works fine.01:20
Stormx2marlun: using simply "image" is incorrect, even on a windows system.01:20
marlunStormx2, tried that too =/01:20
rawtekcfa it said something about a config file I have to change01:20
oskudedooglus, actually i use ssh very often with my desktop and notebook...01:20
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dooglusoskude: and the barrier that sudo puts in your way makes you notice that you're root, and may just stop you accidentally doing something stupid.  if you logged in as root you might forget you were root after a while01:20
Stormx2marlun: Check you've got the right address then01:20
marlunStormx2, yea well it doesn't work with ./ added either. =/01:20
Stormx2marlun: make sure its not .JPG or .jpeg01:20
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cfawell i am new to Debian, i always used RH or Centos or FreeBSD01:21
rawtekdid those work well with wifi01:21
cfayes01:21
marlunyes it was the same thing with the .css file before, but then i just moved it to the same directory as the html file.01:21
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Stormx2marlun: Make sure the html file is saved in the right place, etc01:21
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kinkoblastmarlun: Remember, ubuntu is case sensitive.01:21
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Stormx2mhmm01:21
cfarawtek what chip set do u have01:21
eternale1brb01:21
rawtekcfa I have a belkin (Broadcom )01:22
cfai have Atheros01:22
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rawtekwhy did you leave BSD01:22
vincent_so if you drop a cat upside down it first dearches its back and then it arches his back with net result the paws are facing earth01:22
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oskudewell, i need root acces sometimes frequently so im lazy allways to use "sudo" do a made a password for it. and now i realized that "sudo su -" works too :)01:22
cfau have a card or builtin01:22
rawtekcard01:22
oskudedo a made =  so i made01:22
cfai didnt01:22
rawteki have the net right now01:22
marlunkinkoblast, wasn't that either.. =/ can it have to do with the chmod of the file?01:22
rawtekjust using wep vice wpa01:22
dooglusoskude: just "sudo -i" is best01:23
Stormx2oskude: ;-) Perfectly fine, but remember it breaks the GUI System rools01:23
marlunor maybe the images directory?01:23
dooglusoskude: then you get the root path, root home, etc.01:23
kinkoblastmarlun: Are you using apache? Then yes.01:23
Stormx2dooglus: sudo -i ?01:23
vincent_I'm on this site and I click on the guestbook and then the whole of the mozille firefox closes, what's wrong with it then? what on earth causes a whole program to close?01:23
kinkoblastMarlun: try chmod +r (file)01:23
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cfai have add a dual boot to this laptop01:23
dooglusStormx2: is that wrong?01:23
oskudedooglus, "sudo -i" = "sudo su -" ?01:23
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rawtekwhich do you prefer01:24
dooglusStormx2: try "echo $HOME" after each commnd...01:24
Stormx2dooglus: No, i just wondered what the -i option does01:24
eternale1i don't reccomend anyone in the middle of an unrar e process to ctrl-c it01:24
eternale1:\01:24
bitblitIs it possible to use WPA wireless encryption with Ubuntu? I have searched and can not find a guide...01:24
kinkoblast!!01:24
ubotumethinks ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me01:24
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cfawhile depends on what u want to use it for01:24
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dooglusStormx2: "man sudo" will tell you in detail, but basically it runs a login shell01:24
kinkoblastI just had a really good idea!01:24
wolverianbitblit, yes, see wiki.ubuntu.com and search for wpa01:24
Stormx2dooglus: ok :)01:24
marlunkinkoblast, that wasn't it either, everyone already had reading rights01:24
cfai was going to try ubuntu as a desktop01:24
rawtekthere is our sign...need to go back to the forums01:24
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Stormx2vincent_: Not sure, maybe some embedded activex or some horrible horrible code?01:24
kinkoblastmarlun: hmm... are images on in your browser?01:24
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bitblitwolverian: thank you, I found it :)01:25
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rawtekcfa what do you use BSD for01:25
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marlunkinkoblast, yeah01:25
pasadiahello, how can I increase the size of my system font?01:25
vincent_what is activex?01:25
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Stormx2vincent_: Evil01:25
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kinkoblast!activex01:25
ubotuWish i knew, kinkoblast01:25
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vincent_like an evil spyware virus?01:25
Stormx2ubotu: no, activex is evil01:25
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ubotuokay, Stormx201:25
oskudepasadia, system -> preferences -> font01:25
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Grugman i am so lovin ubuntu01:26
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kinkoblast... NO ONE TAUGHT UBOTU ABOUT ACTIVEX!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!01:26
!lilo:*! services restart, please bear with us01:26
Stormx2Grug: Great :)01:26
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Stormx2kinkoblast: Just have ;-)01:26
jb__i could use a suggestion... i can't adjust the volume - stuck to max or mute. i've tried a few other solutions posted on the forums with no luck. i'm getting deafened by king crimson as i write this.01:26
Stormx2!activex01:26
ubotuactivex is, like, totally, evil01:26
pasadiaoskude, I don't have gnome01:26
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Grughey - i program activex components :)01:26
oskudepasadia, oh, sry01:26
cfarawtek i want to configure 2 things, builtin A/B/G, penabled WACOM01:26
vincent_so activex is only active in the linux world and not on windows?01:26
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rawtekso where are you at now01:26
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rawtekwith wifi01:26
kinkoblastubotu: ActiveX is a Microsoft technology that only works in IE on MS Windows.01:26
Stormx2vincent_: Opposite.01:26
ubotu...but activex is already something else...01:26
Grugyou can run com objects on linux01:26
vincent_but I opened this site from linux!01:26
kinkoblast!forget activex01:26
ubotukinkoblast: i forgot activex01:27
britishseapoweri have sound - but when i try and play an mp3 in xmms it says soundacrd not configured properly...i have installed the win32 codec pack01:27
dooglusvincent_: activex is a technology used in windows to make it easier for hackers to take over your machine01:27
Gruglol01:27
Grugnm01:27
cfastill working on both, install ubuntu yesterday01:27
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Stormx2dooglus: Well put.01:27
Grugso much misInformation :)01:27
kinkoblastubotu: ActiveX is a Microsoft technology that only works in IE on MS Windows.01:27
ubotuokay, kinkoblast01:27
vincent_I am at the global warming non sacrificial zone of the Netherlands01:27
rawtekok do you have the drive cfa?01:27
rawtekdriver that is01:27
marlunkinkoblast, does apache2 has some kind of switch for allowing or not allowing relative paths? =)01:27
cfawhere is the make command01:27
bam_anyone using an ftp server?01:27
kinkoblastThere. NPOV ActiveX def.01:27
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cfathe driver?01:28
rubicerrors during 5.04 -> 5.10 upgrade - can i just download and apply the .debs?   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/445001:28
cfaok01:28
rawtekfor the built in wifi01:28
Grugwhen i do an ls and i get filenames in *green*, what does that mean?01:28
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Stormx2kinkoblast: NPOV?01:28
SmaugHello01:28
vincent_so why does the program close in linux too then?01:28
cfayes for the A/B/G01:28
Stormx2Grug: Thats usually their permissions, I think01:28
krogoth64what's the best way to access X remotely?01:28
oskudeGrug, green = executable (i thin)01:28
Grugthanks storm - was just thinking that :)01:28
SmaugIs it possible to switch from grafical view (gnome) to text only?01:28
kinkoblaststormx2: Neutral Point Of View. I stole the term from Wikipedia :-)01:28
Grughehe01:28
krogoth64I want to be able to leave applications running while I'm disconnected01:28
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rawtekis it a linux drive01:28
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thrushbam_: whats your question?01:28
rawtekr01:28
cfabut when i try to  make it doesnt run01:28
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Stormx2kinkoblast: teehe01:28
doogluskrogoth64: probably using "ssh -X" - but what exactly do you want to do?01:28
bam_looking for a "simple" one to use01:28
cfayes linux driver01:28
rawtekdo you have a windows drive01:28
krogoth64firstly, I'm accessing it from windows :)01:28
sobersabrecfa what's the prob. from the start please ... ?01:28
rawtekr01:28
vincent_it is linux ubuntu01:28
cfayes01:29
krogoth64I want to have the full desktop displayed on another computer01:29
BlueEagleKnow what? I liked ubuntu so much that I replaced Gentoo with it on my server. :)01:29
rawtekhave you ever heard of ndiswrapper01:29
bam_wondered if anyone had any recommendations01:29
rawtekitis awesome01:29
doogluskrogoth64: are these X programs you want to leave running?01:29
Stormx2bam_: You can use gftp, or you can "mount" the FTP server. Go to Places > Connect to server01:29
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thrushbam_: openssh-server01:29
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krogoth64yes01:29
cfagreat, ok01:29
vincent_how can hackers take over your PC?01:29
thrushbam_: sudo apt-get install openssh-server01:29
SmaugIs it possible to switch from grafical view (gnome) to text only?01:29
Stormx2bam_: Mounting it will make it work invisibly, as if it were on your computer ;-)01:29
vincent_only with activex?01:29
BlueEaglebam_: I've used proftp and found it to be functional enough.01:29
krogoth64I want to be able to leave azureus running overnight while my desktop is shut down, and then be able to reconnect to it01:29
doogluskrogoth64: where do you want them to display?  on the windows box or the linux box?01:29
bam_ok, cool01:29
rawtekso download ndiswrapper from the repositories01:29
sobersabrevincent_ no.01:29
krogoth64on windows, the desktop01:29
fredforfaenI cant get k3b to burn mp3's to audiocd...it complaints about some missing plugin , any ideas?01:29
krogoth64I have the cygwin x server01:29
oskudevincent_, there are MANY ways to do that01:29
doogluskrogoth64: interesting.  I don't know if it's possible.01:30
cfai have the Atheros linux driver and i extract the tarball and i can not find the make command01:30
SmaugCan anyone help me?01:30
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vincent_like 10s.. or 100s ways??01:30
sobersabrefredforfaen, idea: install some missing plugin01:30
doogluskrogoth64: if you could use a console program, then it would be easy.  but X apps, I don't know.01:30
oskudevincent_, 100s or more :)01:30
kinkoblastVincent_: ActiveX lets web pages run arbatrary code on your computer. Like java, only windows-only.01:30
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rawtekI have never confi'd with linux drives01:30
Stormx2Smaug: You could open terminal, otherwise I'm not sure.01:30
fredforfaensobersabre well tell me what pluing to install then i will01:30
rawtekI am not smart enough01:30
thrushbam_: u were asking for ftp or ssh?01:30
krogoth64does ubuntu have good support for vnc?01:30
vincent_but now that I've installed linux I'm totally safe from activex?01:30
rawtekI habe to use the wrapper01:30
doogluskrogoth64: yes.  that would work.01:30
sobersabrefredforfaen , well, tell me what plugin is missing then i will01:31
doogluskrogoth64: but the apps would be displaying on your linux box then, not the windows box.01:31
cfawhere r the wrappers01:31
varsendaggerhey how do i configure xterm?01:31
Stormx2vincent_: Almost. if you install WINE and use IE as your browser, you arn't immune.01:31
krogoth64what do I need to get it up?01:31
bam_on my control panel on my website it gives an option to upload directly to a ftp server01:31
vincent_what the hell is WINE?01:31
rawtekyou have synaptic up right?01:31
kinkoblastvincent_: unless you use IE in wine, yeh.01:31
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krogoth64as long as they run on linux and I see them on windows I don't care what it does01:31
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doogluskrogoth64: there's a "remote desktop" menu entry somewhere in the menus - that lets you set up the VNC server01:31
varsendagger!wine01:31
Stormx2vincent_: Wine is a windows emulator, kind of. It lets you run windows programs on linux.01:31
bam_if I run one on my box, then I can save scheduled backups to it01:31
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vincent_I use Mozilla Firefox, so I am relatively safe01:32
cfarawtek 1 sec01:32
SmaugThanks Stormx2. I am running linux for the first time. I have tried redhat before, but I was never using it, but it was possible to switch somehow01:32
krogoth64and it runs the vnc server?01:32
rawtekcfa, k01:32
oskudekrogoth64, i tried VNC (system -> preferences -> remote desktop) and it worked like a charm from another ubuntu machine01:32
sobersabrefredforfaen ... what's up ? :)01:32
doogluskrogoth64: it runs *a* vnc server - I think it's called "vino" or something like that.01:32
Stormx2Smaug: I'm not sure! There will be a way, I'm not aware of it though!01:32
cfarawtek i have now01:32
thrushbam_: u prob want either pure-ftpd, or vsftpd if u apt-get either it should work fine for u01:32
rawtekok search for ndiswrapper01:32
Stormx2Smaug: Basicly you need to shut down X, but I don't know how to do that01:32
krogoth64ok, I think I have it... I'll switch over the hardware and see how fast I can get back here :)01:32
SmaugStormx2 ..I don't know what "X" is..01:32
vincent_is there also a commodoreamigaemulator?01:32
Stormx2!X01:32
ubotuStormx2: Do they come in packets of five?01:32
Ahmuckubuntu live cd does not have ntp sync installed ?01:33
Stormx2>.>01:33
fredforfaensobersabre i cant burn audio cds in k3b01:33
Stormx2Smaug: X is the X Windowing System. It is basicly the graphical layer on top of text.01:33
Ngvincent_: UAE01:33
SmaugStormx2 I use gnome01:33
Stormx2Smaug: GNOME sits on X01:33
sobersabrefredforfaen, you don't see any answer in my messages ?01:33
SmaugStormx2 I see..01:33
varsendaggerthis is off topic but i have src and i can't do a ./configure  Make Make install01:33
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Stormx2varsendagger: What happens?01:34
dooglusvarsendagger: make is lower case01:34
TobaI hear macromedia flash 7 has a security hole01:34
fredforfaensobersabre huh?01:34
bam_oh, off subject question, cleaning up unused libraries, is there a way to do this, and how?01:34
varsendaggerwait i figured it out01:34
Tobahow would I upgrade that?01:34
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kinkoblastxfce is nice.01:34
SmaugStormx2 Ok, thanks anyway, I'll keep trying to get my voice heard.. ;p01:34
dnBhi, can someone let me know how to allow only certain sites for browsing? just installed edubuntu, going to be used unsupervised by children01:34
dooglusbam_: clean up unused dependancies in general with 'debfoster'01:34
varsendaggeri am using xubuntu should i install gcc or just cc?01:35
Stormx2Smaug: If you don't get an answer here, try ubuntuforums.org01:35
Stormx2varsendagger: Both ;-)01:35
cfarawtek, thanx01:35
Stormx2varsendagger: Well try gcc first.01:35
SmaugStormx2 Ah ok. thanks I'll try that one also01:35
cfarawtek i will try to config now, BRB01:35
vincent_so what is basically the difference in between Windows, C. Amiga and Linux? is there a small quick summary?01:35
rawtekdid you suck the driver in01:35
GrugdnB - you could go through MSN or AOL - they have very good parental controls01:35
bam_thanks01:35
cfayes01:35
dnBGrug, no way to restrict in firefox?01:35
Grugnot sure...01:36
dnBhrm, dont really want to use AOL or MSN if possible01:36
SmaugDoes anyone know how to switch from Gnome to textview?01:36
dnB;)01:36
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Grugdon't blame you :)01:36
kvidellSmaug: Ctrl+Alt+F101:36
vincent_ok I guess my question is a little too complex01:36
krogoth64huh... it works01:36
kvidell?01:36
dooglusvincent_: Windows is an operating system, linux is a kernel, C is a programming language and amiga is a kind of computer01:36
bam_debfoster, whats the syntax on that?01:36
kvidellAlt+F7 to get bac kto X01:36
varsendagger(ctl Alt F1)01:36
krogoth64does this mean I have to leave an X session logged in so I can connect with VNC?01:36
Smaugkvidell: Thank you!01:36
dnBamiga's had kick ass games ;D01:36
Stormx2Smaug: Told you ;-)01:36
kinkoblastdooglus: What about Amiga OS?01:36
SmaugStormx2: Hehe thanks :)01:37
vincent_but surely windows has a kernel too?01:37
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dooglusvincent_: what is basically the difference between the moon, a banana and dirk bogart?01:37
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cfarawtek should i restart the network service, they dont c the A/G01:37
Trabvincent_: windows has a kernal, but its really ugly01:37
doogluskinkoblast: amiga os is an operating system01:37
vincent_like the face of Bill Gates (50)?01:37
krogoth64Trab: you've seen it?01:37
wolverianTrab, have you seen it?01:37
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varsendaggerwhich is better open box or fluxbox01:37
rawtekcfa once you installed the driver...01:37
wolverianheh.01:37
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Grugwindows kernel is very well designed actually.01:37
kvidellSmaug: no problem.01:37
rawtekdid you go to network tools to enable01:37
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krogoth64inquiring minds want to know01:37
Stormx2Grug: BLASPHAMY!01:38
Trabseen the windows kernal?01:38
vincent_so in weekends you are allowed to stay up after 12.00 PM, no?01:38
Grugyes01:38
Traberrr kernel01:38
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Trabno, but ive had far too many issues with it to love it01:38
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cfarawtek i believe i did, after i found the driver i marked it anf then applied it01:38
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kinkoblastvincent_: GNU/Linux and Windows are operating systems. They comunicate between software and hardware. Windows is propritary. That means you can not look at the source code to fix problems or make copies for your friends.01:38
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necatorwhere do files go that synaptic installs?01:38
rawtekok now the system should see the a/g but will still need to activate in network tools01:39
necatorlike what folder.01:39
Trabthats kinda the point01:39
Trabof a deb01:39
Smaugkvidell: I was trying to start up quake2, but it didn't work.. So what is textview good for actually?01:39
dooglusnecator: all over the place, wherever they belong.01:39
Trabthey are told where to go01:39
Stormx2necator: To your computer in the means of installed-ness01:39
varsendaggerok i'm currentlu running xfce on top of ubuntu-base01:39
Trabso that it works best01:39
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Stormx2necator: Why?01:39
necatorso how would i locate a particular file?01:39
rawteksystem..administration...networking01:39
Stormx2necator: Find.01:39
dooglusnecator: you can "dpkg -L <packagename>" to see what it installed for any given package01:39
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necatorthx01:39
kinkoblastVincent_: GNU/Linux, on the other hand, is Free Software, meaning that you have the freedom to change, distribute, or if you so desire have sex with it.01:39
varsendaggerand i just apt-get installed xubuntu-desktop01:39
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oskudekrogoth64, i opened my pc1 with System->Preferences->Remote Desktop, [x]  allow other users... then on PC2 type "vncviewer <ip of pc2>:"01:39
varsendaggerand it is going to take an hour to finish01:39
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varsendaggerwhy?01:39
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cfarawtek, yes and the card was not there01:40
Stormx2varsendagger: Because its big?01:40
Gruglol storm01:40
Grugi just installed windows ttf fonts and everything looks great now01:40
rawtekcfa, ok then the driver is not acting right01:40
necatoris there any good terminal guides out there that can teach a beginner such useful commands as what u just mentioned dooglus01:40
krogoth64I'll need to reboot this computer with no display/input attached... will vnc log me in?01:40
varsendaggerwell what all will i be getting?01:40
Gruglove netbeans too01:40
Grugso far :)01:40
oskudekrogoth64, you dont need to reboot !01:40
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krogoth64lol01:41
dnBanyone know if there is a ubuntu package for 'dansguardian' or something similar for good web content filtering?01:41
vincent_sex with something recursive acronymic must be fantastic01:41
krogoth64it happens01:41
rawtekyou should have clicked on windows wireless drivers...clicked add driver and then sucked the driver in from a file location01:41
bam_dooglus, how do I use debfoster?01:41
krogoth64and I need to move the computer to another room today01:41
Stormx2vincent_: Sex: Emulating X01:41
Stormx2vincent_: Now there's a damn good recursive acronym01:41
oskudekrogoth64, sorry, i got it know. dunno how to automate vnc-server to be run when boot-up, sry01:41
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vincent_but only the name GNU/linux is recursive, no? the OS itself is not recursive??01:42
krogoth64would I have to have it automatically log in on boot?01:42
genbieanyone using balsa or evolution here plz?01:42
dooglusbam_: just run "sudo debfoster" (once you've installed the 'debfoster' package).  it will ask you a bunch of questions about whether you want to keep certain packages.  you can say 'y' or 'n' for yes and no, or "p" to uninstall the package and all its dependancies.  it will remember your answers01:42
bam_ahh, I see01:42
dooglusbam_: then, next time you run it, it won't ask so many questions - it'll just ask about the stuff you've installed since the last time you ran it.01:42
cfarawtek, where would i c the windows wireless card01:42
bam_doh!01:42
oskudekrogoth64, do you mean the pc that you want to use through vnc has no monitor ?01:43
krogoth64yes01:43
necatoro id like to apologize to everyone who had to deal with my frusteration breakdown i was imature.01:43
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AlakalaHow do I get the drivers for radeon-3d card to work?01:43
oskudekrogoth64, and you want vnc-server to start on boot ?01:43
SmaugStormx2: Is it possible to change screendepth from 32 to 16 or something?01:43
krogoth64I'm sure it has an init script01:43
necatorit was yesterday im sorry.01:43
Stormx2Smaug: Yep. "xorg-config"01:43
krogoth64ubuntu isn't THAT bad I hope01:43
oskudekrogoth64, sry, never done that :)01:43
dooglusbam_: if unsure, you can answer '?' and it will show a description of the package.  or answer 's' to skip the question.  it'll ask you again next time about any you skip01:43
vincent_recursive would mean files randomly popping up on your harddisks...01:43
AlakalaI'm on breezy and if I try to install em, and reboot xserver, it doesn't work.01:43
rawteki dnot undestand01:43
krogoth64I just don't know if I have to be logged in already for vnc to connect01:43
Stormx2Smaug: Wait, thats wrong =O hang on01:43
SmaugStormx2: Would you guide me through the process? =] 01:44
bam_cool, now I can clean up all the garbage01:44
oskudekrogoth64, hmm, i think so, cause vnc shows u a xwindows session...01:44
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steigweisi have to install the original nvidia drivers for breezy now. must i remove the nvidia-glx package before that?01:44
cfarawtek where would i have clicked windows wireless card and how would i get  the drives01:44
krogoth64vnc can't just connect directly to the X server, can it?01:44
doogluskrogoth64: I've not played with ubuntu's built in vnc server yet.  I used 'x11vnc' before I found out about vino.  That allows you to connect to a running X Windows session01:44
Stormx2Smaug: Yes, once i've found the damned command.01:44
SmaugStormx2: I am really new to linux.. I don't know how to install anything etc.. I am running quake2 through wine and stuff..01:44
doogluskrogoth64: it can - if you use x11vnc01:44
krogoth64so I could get the gdm screen?01:44
cfarawtek, in a menu or somewhere else01:44
Stormx2Smaug: Running quake through wine is good for a new user ;-)01:44
oskudekrogoth64, you mean connect to a xserver and log in as a user... dunno, sry01:45
vincent_if you do that Smaug aren't you at risk of hackers taking over your PC?01:45
SmaugStormx2: Even tho there are a quake linux version01:45
rawteksystem...  administration.... windows wireless drivers, the drivers you have to obtain with the computer01:45
doogluskrogoth64: I don't know about that.  I logged in through the gdm screen, then ran "x11vnc" as the user.01:45
krogoth64I'll have to try this out and see if it works01:45
SmaugVincent_ what would a hacker ever find on my pc?01:45
rawtekthat is what ndiswrapper is01:45
dabaRok, aptitude just installed flash on me...01:45
krogoth64if I allow vnc sharing in the ubuntu settings, it should work every time I log in01:45
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rawteka program to install windows .inf files onlinux01:45
vincent_don't you have personal pictures and/or documents?01:46
vincent_maybe some billing info of your company?01:46
Smaugvincent_ I am totally new, this is a fresh install :)01:46
steigweisi have to install the original nvidia drivers for breezy now. must i remove the nvidia-glx package before that?01:46
Stormx2Someone remind me how to reconfigure X :-\01:46
Stormx2I forget01:46
oskude!xcfg01:46
ubotusudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:46
Smaugvincent_ I'm only doing it cos I dont know how to install it otherwise01:46
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vincent_I'm having problems with running pdflatex, this only runs with wine?01:47
cfaok, i get it, so get the windows wireless drives on a disk then add then by going to the admin - system - network setting01:47
rawtekcfa, I got to run for now....I will check back with you in an hour or so01:47
cfaok01:47
vincent_does ultraedit run under linux too?01:47
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jorge_Seveas: you here?01:48
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jorge_Seveas: you here01:48
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vincent_when text appears red does it mean people talk to me alone and not in the group?01:48
|sam|hi there, ACPI is not needed for desktops right?01:48
jorge_no, they talk to you but everyone sees it01:49
jorge_it's just so that you can see it easier01:49
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Stormx2Still there, Smaug?01:49
crimsun|sam|: it can be and normally is for newer hardware01:49
chopinsorry01:49
SmaugStormx2 yup01:49
chopini just installed new relase of ubuntu01:49
Stormx2sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:49
chopini got an error on dpkg01:49
jorge_hey guys, if I have two 40gb drives, one master, one slave, can i install windows on one and ubuntu on the other01:49
Stormx2Smaug: What did you want to change?01:49
SmaugStormx2: There are too many colors01:50
|sam|crimsun; thx01:50
wolverianjorge_, ye01:50
wolverians01:50
jorge_thanks01:50
wolverian(damn enter key)01:50
SmaugStormx2: My pc is too slow for winxp, therefor I run linux01:50
jorge_cause i just did, didnt know if i'd get errors01:50
Stormx2Smaug: OK. Go through that wizard. The current option is always selected, so best keep pressing enter untill you get to the colours section01:50
SmaugStormx2: But linux had alot of pictures also01:50
vincent_Smaug: you are from Sweden!01:50
Smaugvincent_ I know.. ;p01:51
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chopinanyone experienced problems on dpkg?01:51
chopinpls01:51
vincent_Hur str det till?01:51
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oskudewhere is the "best" reposity to find "w32codecs" ?01:51
Stormx2Smaug: You can set colour depth in that wizard01:51
Smaugvincent_ Rtt schysst01:51
kinkoblast!w32codecs01:51
ubotuw32codecs is, like, for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/01:51
Stormx2Smaug: Options are: 24, 16, 15, 8, 4, 101:51
vincent_that's not good I think01:52
Stormx2Smaug: 1 bit will be black and white hehe01:52
jorge_can someone tell ubuntu to tell me about adding new repositories01:52
oskudethnx01:52
jorge_*ubotu01:52
SmaugStormx2 What wizzard are we talking about?01:52
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kinkoblast!repos01:52
ubotuI heard repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource01:52
vincent_Smaug guess shit?01:52
jorge_thanks01:52
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Smaugvincent_ va?01:52
Stormx2Smaug: Go to terminal, and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"01:52
Stormx2And press enter.01:53
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Sannejorge_: you can do: /msg ubotu questionterm01:53
oskudelol WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!01:53
oskude  w32codecs01:53
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Stormx2oskude: ignore it.01:53
Smaugvincent_ Dutch?01:53
vincent_ja01:54
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oskudeStormx2, but why does it say that ?01:54
Smaugvincent_ Oh, hoe is het?01:54
vincent_heel goed, dank u01:54
Stormx2oskude: You havn't configured the packages to be signed. Go to http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl if you are that bothered by it ;-)01:54
vincent_I've been teaching my neighbours some klaverjassen01:54
Smaugvincent_ Hehe :) Ik spreek wel een beetje nederlands hoor01:54
vincent_a classical dutch game01:54
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odie5533Does python come standard with ubuntu? IE is it on the install disc?01:55
Stormx2My dutch exctends to this: "Boom Ja! Boom! Hallo!"01:55
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tritiumodie5533, yes01:55
luca__Hi :)01:55
oskudeStormx2, roger01:55
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Stormx2luca__: hey!01:55
vincent_I would love to learn swedish and norwegian, I have two little books already from the "wat&hoe" series01:55
siimothe taskbar flashing thing has a bug for gaim in breezy :-/01:55
Stormx2vincent_: Learn japanese ;-)01:55
vincent_semeai, seki!01:55
Stormx2siimo: No. it waits for you to start typing, then goes away01:55
vincent_what the hell good does japanese do me?01:56
Stormx2vincent_: Anime is in japanese/01:56
vincent_that's like sooo far away man01:56
siimoStormx2, , thats annoying it should wait for you to focus window and then go01:56
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Stormx2siimo: I know.01:56
oskudeis http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ a "home" server (low download)01:56
Stormx2oskude: No idea01:56
siimoStormx2, fixed :)01:56
Stormx2siimo: Was it in preferences?01:56
vincent_when you have had a psychose, is your life over then?01:57
vincent_do you have to wait for reincarnation before it starts getting fun again?01:57
siimoStormx2, yah remove when conversation window gaims focus01:57
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siimolol01:57
tritiumvincent_, please stay on topic01:57
vincent_sorry01:57
oskudeStormx2, but when "ubotu" says it, i hope its "trust worthy" :)01:57
Stormx2oskude: usually.01:58
Stormx2!activex01:58
uboturumour has it, activex is evil01:58
oskudelol01:58
Stormx2!windows01:58
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, windows is unnecessary, everything runs in Linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office or find an !alternative01:58
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oskudeLOL01:58
Stormx2;-) Ubuto is always right01:58
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Juhazit's just a bot, everyone can enter those descriptions01:58
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Stormx2Ubotu, infact. Ack!01:58
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, Stormx201:58
SmaugStormx2: I have done all that now01:58
thoreauputic!run01:59
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SmaugStormx2: But nothing seem to have changed01:59
oskudeJuhaz, you mean even i can "reprogram" ubotu ? omg01:59
SmaugStormx2: Do I need to reboot?01:59
vincent_Smaug how come you speak dutch?01:59
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dnBi just used apt to download install a bunch of new games for my lil bro and my son, will they be automatically added to the applications list under 'games'? or is there something i must do?01:59
Stormx2Smaug: What do you mean?01:59
Stormx2Smaug: No. Save any unsaved work01:59
Juhazoskude, you can also "reprogram" the entire wikipedia, usually it's still trustworthy :)01:59
Smaugvincent_ Ik heb in hoorn gewonen01:59
Stormx2Smaug: Then press Ctrl + Alt + Backspace01:59
oskudeJuhaz, ok :)01:59
fanopnaicdnB: should be done automatically02:00
SmaugStormx2 DoI need to kill xchat?02:00
Stormx2Smaug: No.02:00
oskudednB, type "killall gnome-applet" and wait for the menu to reload, and all games with menu settings will be there02:00
hyakuheiEvening all, I installed breezy a little while ago and networking, specifcially http, is being very very flakey my laptop didnt have a problem with kanotix, but with breezy nat'd http stuff gets mangled02:00
oskudednB, sry it was "killall gnome-panel"02:00
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vincent_heb je daar stage gelopen, daar in hoorn?02:00
Stormx2!nl02:01
ubotuOp #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.02:01
oskude!sf02:01
ubotuoskude: What?02:01
oskude:)02:01
Stormx2;-)02:01
oskudesf = suomi finland :)02:01
oskudeoh wait02:02
vincent_so suomi means "our"?02:02
oskude!fi02:02
ubotuI guess fi is "Suomalaiset: Suomea puhutaan kanavalla #ubuntu-fi"02:02
dnBoskude, thank you :)02:02
oskudejuhuu :)02:02
oskudednB, your welcome02:02
Grugwow - netbeans is nice for being free02:02
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vincent_smaug heb je stage gelopen in hoorn?02:02
Smaugvincent_ stage?02:03
vincent_traineeship02:03
oskudeif some1 bored, watch demoscene.tv (hq channel) with me :)02:03
Grughey guys, any other good irc channels for linux enthusiasts?02:03
SmaugStormx2: My screenresolution changed drasticly02:03
raphinkGrug: #kubuntu ? :)02:03
Smaugvincent_ I don't know :x02:03
Gruglol02:03
oskude!demoscene.tv02:03
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, oskude02:04
raphinkGrug: #debutant if you speak french ;)02:04
Grugok... what is the config file to change color bit depth in my current resolution?02:04
dooglusoskude: it seems to require activex?02:04
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oskudehmm, mplayer freezed02:05
dooglusGrug: /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:05
vincent_so in australia it is 14:00 now?02:05
raphinkGrug: /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:05
Grugtx02:05
oskudedooglus, copy the link and open in mplayer02:05
raphinkargh too late !02:05
SmaugStormx2?02:05
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dooglusoskude: I'm on an XP box atm02:05
oskudedooglus, they use nullsoft video format (should be in w32codecs)02:05
siimovincent_, depends on where02:05
oskudedooglus, get winamp player02:05
moshehow do I change the default display manager?02:05
Smaugs02:05
mosheI remember reading it can be done with a dpkg-reconfigure, but I can't remember exactly02:05
Stormx2Smaug: It did?02:05
SmaugStormx2: Hehe02:05
raphinkwhat is your current manager moshe ?02:05
SmaugStormx2: I only have 3 resolutions to choose between now02:05
dooglusoskude: how can I find the link?02:05
oskudedooglus, sec02:05
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SmaugStormx2: And the colors look funny ^^02:05
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dooglusoskude: I'm using IE, but it's all in Czech, so I can't even find "open page source" or whatever02:06
siimovincent_, actually its 1400 in new zealand, in australia EDT is 1200 now02:06
mosheraphael, kdm02:06
Stormx2Smaug: Run that wizard again and add the other resolution. Mind that some resolutions and colour depths are incompatible02:06
mosheI want to switch to gdm and see how I like it.02:06
raphinkmoshe: and you want it to gdm ?02:06
raphinkok02:06
Stormx2dooglus: lmao.02:06
oskudedooglus, paste this to mplayer/winamp: http://mirror.zonart.net:8018/listen.pls02:06
raphinkthen you can use dpkg-reconfigure kdm02:06
SmaugStormx2: Can I have that commandline again please?02:06
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SmaugStormx2: Everything died02:06
raphinkfor example02:06
Stormx2Smaug: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:06
bob2vincent_: ' TZ=Australia/Sydney date', in a terminal02:07
C_J_ProIn which directory are mysql databases stored on ubuntu?02:07
bob2C_J_Pro: /var/lib/mysql, I'd assume02:07
SmaugStormx2: Thanks alot for your help02:07
raphinkmoshe: the kdm postinstall script grants you what DM you want to use02:07
moshewon't that just reconfigure kdm if I issue that command?02:07
bob2C_J_Pro: dpkg -L mysql-server | grep var02:07
mosheoic02:07
Stormx2Smaug: I hope i did help at all ;-) Anyway, good night all. Its 1 am here!02:07
raphinkmoshe: choosing a dm is not really a matter of whether you like it or not02:07
C_J_Pro>_<02:07
Stormx2!ie02:07
ubotuhmm... ie is Aye boyo! Head on over t' the #ubuntu-ie channel02:07
raphinkmoshe: it's rather a matter of what DE you use the most02:07
C_J_ProAccidentally ran a rm -rf / when I mean rm -rf ./*02:07
mosheraphael, well, I use xfce02:07
fanopnaicoskude: fun, in vlc I don't have video, in xine I don't have sound, in mplayer I have both :) (with that demoscene.tv thingie)02:07
moshe:)02:07
raphinkmoshe: then use xdm02:07
bob2C_J_Pro: you're probably screwed then02:07
C_J_Prostopped it quickly, and I need to recover the mysql databases02:07
oskudefanopnaic, :)02:08
moshebut my wife uses kde02:08
vincent_so linux has no 02:08
vincent_02:08
vincent_02:08
vincent_ signs in its ascii table02:08
raphinkmoshe: then keep kdm02:08
mosheand xdm doesn't let you choose sessions02:08
_jasonhas anyone here been able to setup horizontal scroll on their mouse (or at least get the tilt buttons to genereate different button numbers in xev than other buttons on the mouse)?02:08
mosheI want to see what gdm is like.02:08
tarheelcoxnC_J_Pro: respect the root!02:08
raphinkmoshe: there's no point at all in using gdm if you use xfce and your wife uses kde02:08
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oskudefanopnaic, that demoscene.tv uses a nullsoft (closed) video format, and with mplayer it works with the w32codecs...02:08
someotherguyHello.02:08
raphinkmoshe: you can launche gdm from console without having to set it as default02:08
siimomoshe, why dont you just switch to terminal kill kdm and load gdm =) if all you want to do is see what gdm is like02:08
raphink*lauch02:09
mosheheh02:09
mosheok fine02:09
moshethanks02:09
raphinkthat's what I was about to propose siimo  :)02:09
someotherguyCan anyone help me?02:09
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: just ask your question02:09
someotherguyWord.02:09
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raphinkwith word? no way :p02:09
oskude:)02:09
raphinkwell depends02:10
raphinkif it's kwork then yes02:10
raphink;)02:10
raphinkkword02:10
raphinkI'm getting tired :(02:10
oskudefor linux you need atleas double-word :)02:10
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raphinkthanks tarheelcoxn02:10
dooglusoskude: do you know if winamp 3 is available somewhere?  winamp 5 sucks02:10
raphinkI think I shall go to bed rather though tarheelcoxn02:10
someotherguyI just installed breezy from one of the pressed cd's on an old p2-500mhz, with 256 megs of ram. It installed alright, but now when it's booting, when gnome tries to load I get a black screen and I get a Long-short-short-short beep code.02:10
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LathropWellsI Love Ubuntu!02:10
oskudedooglus, dunno. and dunno if winamp3 has the video codec...02:11
someotherguyI guess the question is "wtf?"02:11
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ubuntuwaaaaaaaaa02:11
ubuntuhello02:11
oskudeLathropWells, me too :)02:11
ubuntumother fockers02:11
ubuntuxd02:11
raphinkhmm02:12
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raphinkinteresting point of view on life02:12
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necatoroskude what video codec do you need?02:12
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raphinktoo late thoreauputic02:12
oskudeoh, the next demo is hard, but nice02:12
Koriohow do i get XDM to work in ubuntu?02:12
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: you might try a server install02:12
thoreauputicraphael: indeed02:12
oskudenecator, none, why u ask ?02:12
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rawtekcfa, how are things coming02:12
raphinkKorio: you install it02:12
Korioraphink, o rly? well it doesnt start02:12
necatoroskude i heard you say something about you and dooglus dont know if winamp had the codec.02:12
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someotherguyIs the p2 too gutless to run it full install?02:12
necatoroskude so i was curious what you were trying to do i might be able to help.02:12
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: when you boot from the pressed CD, type "server" at the prompt02:12
jorge_how can I make it so my icons are automatically organized02:12
raphinkKorio: then you dpkg-reconfigure it02:12
fanopnaicoskude: ah ok, I forgot to register the codecs after installing gstreamer-pitfdll. now it works in xine too (didn't know that xine uses gstreamer anyway)... vlc still a no go (only uses its own codecs methinks)02:12
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: it might run xubuntu nicely02:12
oskudenecator, the nullsoft video codec, forgot the name02:12
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Korioraphink, that only re-installs it... i have always had this problem with ubuntu02:13
LathropWellsBeeep- beep beep beep!     here is the link http://www.computerhope.com/beep.htm02:13
necatoroskude do you have winamp?02:13
jorge_how can I install gdm themes, the ones where you log in02:13
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: do the server install and then install the xubuntu-desktop package02:13
kinkoblast!winvlin02:13
Korioraphael, you must be the smartest kid on the block..02:13
raphinkhmm how about dpkg-reconfigure gdm Korio ?02:13
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necatoroskude xmms is like a linux clone of winamp its worth a try.02:13
Smaug!winvlin02:13
Korioraphink, *02:13
jorge_how can I install a gdm theme (login theme)02:13
raphinkKorio: :p it's late here :p02:13
Korioraphael, i dont have gdm02:13
Korioraphink ;p02:13
someotherguyIt's either a memory failure, or a graphics failure...despite the fact that it was happily running xp a few hours ago.02:14
oskudenecator, i have it working (demoscene.tv) on mplayer, the question was if winamp3 (on windows) has the video codec...02:14
SmaugIf I choose all available screenresolutions from the xconf list, will there be a problem?02:14
tarheelcoxntarheelcoxn: another option you might try is booting into single-user mode and removing ubuntu-desktop02:14
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tarheelcoxnerr02:14
kinkoblastI wrote a parageaph into Ubotu. Check it out at winvlin. Ignore the last bit, I had to make some sort of joke.02:14
necatoroskude ah i  c.02:14
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: another option you might try is booting into single-user mode and removing ubuntu-desktop02:14
LathropWellsRealplayer must be run as root? - is there a lib that totem can use for ram  pl  streams?02:14
thoreauputicjorge_: you just drag it onto the login customising dialogue ( see system admin in menu)02:14
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oskudejorge_, System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup02:14
someotherguytarheelcoxn: It doesn't seem to want to let me boot at all.02:15
jorge_thanks02:15
necatorjorge_ go to system > administrator > login screen setup02:15
thoreauputicjorge_: Login Screen Setup02:15
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: o.002:15
necatorbeat me too it oskude :p02:15
SmaugIf I choose all available screenresolutions from the xconf list, will there be a problem?02:15
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oskudenecator, :)02:15
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: can you boot from the CD again?02:15
someotherguytarheelcoxn: Well, it'll boot, but right after it finishes loading and before it goes into x, the screen goes black and it gives me the beeps.02:15
tarheelcoxnor from the liveCD?02:15
switchcatim installing server ubuntu.. and have the three kernels to choose from, how do i know which to choose?02:15
someotherguysomeotherguy: Yes, I can.02:15
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bob2switchcat: the default02:15
sunshine82im meant to have a folder called usr/src/linux but the linux file is unknow how do i get another linux file02:15
someotherguyEerrrr02:15
jorge_how can i install a splash screen02:15
bob2if you have no idea, use the default02:15
thoreauputicsomeotherguy: beeps suggest hardware issues02:15
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someotherguytarheelcoxn: Yes, I can.02:15
oskudejorge_, and then the "themed greeter" tab, just click "install new theme" and select the downloaded file02:16
raphinkswitchcat: what is your proc?02:16
LathropWellsSmaug - nah - you can toggle from new res using ctrl+alt+numpad + or numpad -02:16
bob2sunshine82: what are you trying to do?02:16
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switchcatpIII i think02:16
necatorsystem > prerfences > splash screen jorge_02:16
potusdoes anyone have any idea why my ssh daemon is dropping the connection as soon as i enter a username? (openssh-server)?02:16
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someotherguyI'll go re-seat my ram and video card...you never know.02:16
raphinkswitchcat: and what choice are you given?02:16
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: do you know what single-user mode is?02:16
potusyet i can use the same username for ftp.02:16
someotherguytarheelcoxn: Nope.02:16
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: okay... then just re-install02:16
SmaugLathropwells: I wanted to change screendepth, and I did. But then my screenresolution went huge, and I want my old back, and I don't know wich one that was02:16
tarheelcoxnusing "server" at the first prompt02:16
dooglusthis is a little offtopic - but does anyone know where I might find an everquest IRC channel?02:16
necatorafk02:16
dnBcan someone help me out? im trying to setup iptables, using a tutorial that says to type "iptables-save > /etc/sysconfig/iptables" however that isnt working02:16
jorge_necator: i dont have splashscreen under preferences02:17
switchcatlinux-386 image-386 and umage 2.6-12.9 -38602:17
sunshine82bob2 im tryin to set up my ebcam this the site im using http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Webcam-HOWTO.html02:17
someotherguytarheelcoxn: When I first got the cds, I booted off the live cd and it gave me this problem, but I figured installing the full install would fix it.02:17
switchcater image too02:17
bob2dnB: that tutorial is for redhat02:17
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raphinkoh yeah right02:17
bob2dnB: /usr/share/doc/iptables/README.Debian.gz02:17
sunshine82bob2 my webcam02:17
raphinkswitchcat: I usually choose linux-38602:17
someotherguytarheelcoxn: That's why I'm not led to believe that re-installing it would make a difference.02:17
dnBbob2, you dont know the correct command for it?02:17
fanopnaicswitchcat: take linux-38602:17
LathropWellsSmaug - you can use what you like and edit away the rest.02:17
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: you may have a problem with Xorg02:17
raphinkit doesn't really matter anyway02:17
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dnBok thanks bob2 ill go rtfm ;)02:18
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: you'll likely have to tinker to get any gui to work properly02:18
someotherguytarheelcoxn: any other gui's I could boot to installed by default?02:18
switchcatwhat ARE the other ones for?02:18
oskude!ubotu02:18
fanopnaicI must say the video quality of this nullsoft video thing is quite good considering it only consumes 1Mbps02:18
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.02:18
SmaugLathropwells: I don't know wich one I liked02:18
someotherguytarheelcoxn: perhaps kde?02:18
kinkoblastIs there a greeter theme that matches xfce/xubuntu?02:18
SmaugLathropwells: Before it went like this02:18
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dooglusdnB: dnB what error so you see?02:18
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: very doubtful02:18
LathropWellsdooglus - google ircspy.com or .net i don't remember02:18
potusAnyone got any idea about my ssh problem?  drops connection after entering a valid username?02:18
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SmaugLathropwells: But will it be OK if I choose to incklude them all?02:18
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: it'll be easier for us (or someone else) to help you if you can first get an install working02:18
bob2sunshine82: what chipset does it have?02:18
bob2potus: can you ssh from localhost on that machine?02:19
Grugmy god - it is incredibly difficult to simply install an nvidia driver02:19
thoreauputictarheelcoxn: 500mhz 256MB should handle gnome OK ( not fast but OK)02:19
Grugthis could take a while :)02:19
potusbob2: cant tell now. i rebooted by ssh. now i cant sshback in..  altho the ftp and webserver are up.02:19
SmaugGrug, I got it from a selfinstalling package, just for ubuntu02:19
Grugyeah?02:19
potusthe ssh comes up login: once i enter anything it just disconnects me.. without prompting for password.02:19
SmaugGrug: Yeah, I'm totally new to linux02:19
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: do you get a login prompt after the beeping?02:19
Grugwhere did you get it?02:19
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: or do you just get nothing?02:19
kinkoblastIs there a greeter theme that matches xfce/xubuntu?02:19
LathropWellsSmaug - Smaug - you can but i would be conservative - some monitoers (mine included) hate anything above 1280X102402:19
someotherguytarheelcoxn: Nah, it just freezes.02:19
SmaugGrug: I got it from a link from ubuntu website02:20
sunshine82bob2 divio n80202:20
Grugok02:20
Grugthanks02:20
someotherguyThe little flashing underscore in the corner stops flashing.02:20
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dooglusLathropWells: it looks like ircspy.com is for finding files available on IRC, not for finding channels02:20
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someotherguytarheelcoxn: The little flashing underscore in the corner stops flashing.02:20
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thoreauputickinkoblast: please don't repeat - have you looked at xfce.look.org or whatever it's called ?02:20
SmaugLathropwells, but it won't burn up will it?02:20
LathropWellsdooglus - nah it is the best thing on the net for irc channels even company info02:20
bob2potus: have you touched anyssh settings at all, on the client or server?02:20
kinkoblastthoeauputic: Um... a little more specific?02:21
someotherguytarheelcoxn: I'll go re-seat the ram and the video card, just to be sure it's not just being retarded.02:21
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tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: fair enough02:21
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LathropWellsSmaug - accepting the defaults is usually 1024X768 and that should be okayy for even the oldest monitors.02:21
oskudeubotu demoscene.tv is a cool place to get the best demos as video stream, needs w32codecs to encode02:21
ubotuoskude: okay02:21
oskude!demoscene.tv02:22
ubotuhmm... demoscene.tv is a cool place to get the best demos as video stream, needs w32codecs to encode02:22
potusbob2: idk maybe apt-get did on all this advanture of installing ISPConfig.    what would likely be the  cause/file?02:22
oskudehehe :)02:22
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SmaugLathropwells: That is what I use now. but everything is huge02:22
bob2potus: ispconfig soundslike some cpanel-like monstrosity, yes?02:22
thoreauputickinkoblast: start here I guess http://www.xfce.org/index.php02:22
LathropWellssmaug - if you are still concerned FCC.GOV aand the FCC ID# from the back panel will give you specs if the manufacturer isn't easy to find.02:22
wonderingdoes anyone here have kdevelop "designer" crash as soon as you try to open it?02:22
wonderingI can get all of the other Kdevelop apps to open fine02:23
bob2sunshine82: 'sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)', in a terminal02:23
wonderingbut not designer02:23
sunshine82bob2 any ideas02:23
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bob2wondering: #kubuntu may no more02:23
LathropWellsSmaug - what happens with ctrl+alt+   numpad +02:23
bob2er, know02:23
potusbob2: a webbased one, yes; i stopped it.. took program outta contrab. and rebooted.02:23
SmaugLathropwells: Ok, I'll try figure it out.. Thanks alot for your help!02:23
wonderinggood point bob202:23
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oskude!bill02:23
ubotuoskude: Are you on ritalin?02:23
wonderingbut I am runing it in Ubuntu02:23
Koriois the universe for breezy up and running now?02:23
oskude!gates02:23
ubotuoskude: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about02:23
wonderingwith just the dependencies installed02:23
oskudelol02:23
wonderingno kubuntu desktop02:23
LathropWellsSamuag - we are here to help 24/702:23
wonderingbrb02:23
oskude!software_patent02:24
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, oskude02:24
sunshine82bob2 that done02:24
oskude:)02:24
LathropWellsI love Ubuntu!  - (oops did i say that already?)02:24
SmaugLathropwells: Thanks :)02:24
Grugwait till you try and install nvidia drivers :)02:24
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potusi got an idea02:24
myrth_hi02:24
Smauggrug wait02:24
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potusapt-get remove openssh-server02:24
oskuderoger02:24
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potusapt-get install openssh-server02:24
potusshould fix =)02:24
dabaRLathropWells: you are where 24/7?02:24
JasonOfEarthhey does anyone know what package contains the X11 file flipped_gray? Or how to find out?02:24
bob2sunshine82: then the driver should compile02:24
Aurorai love ubuntu too but why is apache giving me forbidden messages!02:25
myrth_i've just installed ubuntu on my laptop :)02:25
potusbob2: sound right?02:25
bob2JasonOfEarth: packages.ubuntu.com02:25
glickhey what does it mean in bittorrent when there are 0 seeders?02:25
bob2Aurora: when doing what?02:25
bob2glick: that no one currently active has the whole file02:25
myrth_how do i install KDE?02:25
Auroratrying to request any page through it02:25
glickok thanks bob202:25
JasonOfEarthexcellent thanks bob202:25
bob2glick: people may have enough non-overlapping parts spread amongst the rest to reconstruct it, tho02:25
dooglusglick: it means that nobody has the whole file.02:25
Aurorai configured it to use a folder in my homedir as a document root02:25
bob2myrth_: install kubuntu-desktop02:25
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bob2Aurora: that's silly02:25
LathropWellsdabaR -  i meant #ubuntu        dabaR of course is here more than anyone else.02:25
bob2Aurora: but the issue is probably that you didn't set o=rx permissions on every dir between / and your doc root02:25
dabaRLathropWells: read me in one line, eh?02:25
myrth_err.. what's default password for root?02:25
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Aurorahmm, okay02:26
raphinkthere's no default passwd for root myrth_02:26
raphinkmyrth_: by default the root account is not activated02:26
dabaRmyrth_: its your password02:26
sunshine82bob2 i wish it was that easy im getinn this error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/445102:26
oskudemyrth_, sudo ask your password02:26
bob2myrth_: wiki.ubuntu/com/RootSudo02:26
Aurorai dont see why it needs +x and stuff on parent dirs of the doc root though02:26
myrth_su - without password says authentication failure, and also default user password doesn't work02:26
bob2Aurora: ok, but that's the way it is02:26
dnBanyone know how i can get a new default squid.conf?02:26
raphink!tell myrth_ about sudo02:27
SmaugGrug: I have this package: "automatix-ubuntu_v3.1.1.tar.gz"02:27
dooglusAurora: if a directory doesn't have +x, it can't be opened02:27
bob2myrth_: the installer did explain this to you02:27
Auroranope, the permissions are set02:27
Grugthankx smaug02:27
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bob2dnB: lessone #1: backup config files before touching them02:27
SmaugGrug: But I couldn't find it while searching for it :x02:27
dachnaz_Hello.02:27
SeveasGrug, you'd better throw that out befoure you wreck your system with it02:27
thoreauputickinkoblast: a bit of googling found this >>  http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/gdm-xfce/02:27
SmaugGrug: But it is ther somewhere :x02:27
dnBbob2, definitely :P02:27
Grugeither could i...02:27
dachnaz_Quick question. ^^02:27
bob2dnB: also, sudo dpkg -P --force-depends squid ; sudo apt-get install squid02:27
Grugyeah i'm gonna give up on drivers for a while :)02:27
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dnBbob2, thanks ;)02:27
SmaugGrug: Hehe ;)02:27
SeveasSmaug, I mean02:27
bob2Aurora: what is your docroot set at?02:27
Grugit's not like windows one-click setup.exe02:27
Grug:)02:27
dachnaz_How do I change the root password or sudo or login as root?02:27
SmaugSeveas: What?02:27
LathropWellssuk, - software patents - jeez was reading that amazon.com got a patent for "one click ordering."  - no idea if they are going to enforce it or just keep it away from patent trolls02:27
SeveasSmaug, don't use automatix02:27
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Seveasit's just another crappy script02:28
thoreauputic!tell dachnaz_ about root02:28
dabaRGrug: mostly if you ave to insatll a driver in windows, teh installation is not one click.02:28
SmaugSeveas: Why? It's my lifesaviour :)02:28
lizardcrywhere can i get kernel 2.6.13 for ubuntu 5.10?02:28
Kman^!tell Kman^ about root02:28
dabaRGrug: why do you always refer windows?02:28
Auroraeek02:28
bob2dachnaz_: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:28
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Grugwell, i've never seen otherwise dabar... you have advice for installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu?02:28
Seveasthen don't come whining when it screws over your system02:28
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tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: any luck?02:28
bob2lizardcry: you can't, simply02:28
bob2lizardcry: why do you want it?02:28
SmaugSeveas: Please..02:28
bob2Grug: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:28
LathropWellslol@Seaveas02:28
sunshine82bob2 what u think02:28
Grugahhh - thanks bob - i'll check it out02:29
codecainecan someone tell me how my VOIP device behind my netgear router is receiving phone calls when I don't have any port forwarding in the router for it, how does this work?02:29
SmaugSeveas: I got it from ubuntuforums02:29
lizardcrybob2, I believe I would then be able to run ubuntu on my amd64.02:29
SeveasSmaug, that does not mean it does not suck02:29
dachnaz_Ah ha. That makes sense. Thankee.02:29
lizardcrybob2, it freezes hard02:29
someotherguytarheelcoxn: Nope, it goes through all the module initialization and everything, with the progress bar and such, then the screen clears to the flashing underscore in the top left, it flashes a few times, then freezes and starts beeping.02:29
lizardcrybob2, fresh install02:29
necatorwhat is metacity? does ubuntu breezy have it? i see it mentioned on gnome-look.or02:29
Seveasthere's a lot of crap on the forums02:29
bob2lizardcry: does trying noapic/nolapic/acpi=off help? (kernel boot options)02:29
SmaugSeveas: But I'm totally new to linux. I'm sorry if I use something you don't like. But I trusted the people at ubuntuforums02:29
bob2necator: yes, it's the default window manager for gnome02:29
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Aurorabob2,  DocumentRoot    /home/aurora/Projects/02:29
lizardcrybob2, did that02:29
Seveasthere's good stuff too, but you need to be careful02:29
codecainewindow manager02:29
bob2necator: ie it draws window borders02:29
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JasonOfEarthbob2 is my hero!02:29
bob2lizardcry: even all 3 doesn't help?02:29
lizardcrybob2, i'm on gentoo now02:30
thoreauputicnecator: it's the default underlying window manager for gnome02:30
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: can you type CTRL+ALT+F2 and get a prompt?02:30
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lizardcrybob2, I swear. I did ALL 302:30
bob2Aurora: and the output of 'ls -ld /home/{,aurora/{,Projects}}' to #flood02:30
dachnaz_Here's another pop quiz: Where can I find SSHD? Or is there a better way to access this from another location?02:30
Fr0Gswhere do i get the latest worken fglrx drives02:30
bob2lizardcry: how odd02:30
Fr0Gswhere do i get the latest worken fglrx drivers02:30
someotherguyShould I try it while it's initializing, or right now while it's frozen?02:30
bob2dachnaz_: install the openssh-server package02:30
lizardcrybob2, it's making me ill at my stomach02:30
oskudeubout tell oskude about demoscene.tv02:30
LathropWellsJasonOfEarth, - yep mine too there are some great people here,02:30
necatorso changing my "metacity" would change how my folders look?02:30
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: right now02:30
bob2Fr0Gs: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:30
oskudeubotu tell oskude about demoscene.tv02:30
bob2necator: no, window borders02:30
someotherguytarheelcoxn: k, brb02:30
lizardcrybob2, i have an ati 980002:30
tarheelcoxndachnaz_: openssh-server02:30
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bob2lizardcry: that shouldn't matter02:30
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Koriowhich repos do i need to ad to get mplayer?02:31
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necatorso metacity and gtk 2.x then do the same thing?02:31
someotherguytarheelcoxn: Yes, it gave me a login prompt.02:31
bob2lizardcry: you've compiled a kernel from scratch before?02:31
Seveas!forget demoscene.tv02:31
ubotui forgot demoscene.tv, Seveas02:31
bob2necator: no02:31
someotherguytarheelcoxn: that's a good sign.02:31
micropa1I'm trying to do a multiseat install with the newest ubuntu, however nothing happens when I press enter on the "configure a multiseat system" in the installer. Any tips?02:31
lizardcrybob2, similar probs in gentoo, but disappeared after upgrade to 2.6.13 kernel02:31
bob2necator: I keep saying, "window borders", you keep hearing "widgets"02:31
LathropWellskorio - univers community supported02:31
lizardcrybob2, gentoo ... i compile everythinh02:31
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: you have a problem with xorg02:31
necatorbob2 im new at all this i dont really knwo the terms of differences of any of it :p02:31
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tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: login at that login prompt02:31
someotherguytarheelcoxn: brb02:31
dachnaz_bob2: Where can I find this package?02:32
bob2necator: window borders = window title bar, border, resize handles, etc02:32
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KorioLathropWells, weird I have that one enabled and yet i dont see mplayer02:32
dnBdoes anyone know how i can do the equivalent to "chkconfig squid on"02:32
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bob2necator: widgets = buttons, text in the window, file selection screens, etc02:32
necatorso gtk does widgets?02:32
bob2dachnaz_: you've never installed a package in ubuntu?02:32
thoreauputicKorio:  multiverse02:32
necatorand metacity does borders02:32
tarheelcoxndachnaz_: adept02:32
bob2dachnaz_: squid runs by default when installed02:32
bob2necator: more or less02:32
sunshine82bob2 what u think02:32
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Koriothoreauputic, got that too02:32
thoreauputic!info mplayer-38602:32
someotherguytarheelcoxn: There, logged in.02:32
necatordo either of those control icons?02:32
dnBbob2, thanks ;)02:32
GrugSo video drivers seem very difficult to install... is it any easier to install Audigy 2 drivers?02:32
ubotumplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3729 kB, Installed size: 8268 kB02:32
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bob2sunshine82: looks like the driver itself is broken02:33
LathropWellsthoreauputic, - mplayer is non-free?02:33
bob2Grug: video drivers are trivial02:33
funkyHatnecator, no02:33
thoreauputicKorio: apt-cache search mplayer02:33
funkyHatnecator, that's nautilus02:33
dachnaz_No, bob2, never installed one on Ubuntu.02:33
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: now cd /var/log02:33
thoreauputicLathiat: I assume it's about codecs etc02:33
bob2Korio: it's in multiverse, wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:33
andreiutzhello02:33
bob2dachnaz_: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto02:33
Koriomga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source)02:33
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Koriothats what i find02:33
andreiutzwhat is the root passwd for the ubuntu live cd ??02:33
thoreauputicoops LathropWells that was fro you not Lathiat02:33
someotherguytarheelcoxn: done.02:33
Grugtrivial?  compiling and interface to the kernel is trivial?  wow... now I'm *really* afraid to ask about sound drivers lol02:33
Seveasandreiutz, there is none02:33
Aurorabob2, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/42729402:33
Seveas!tell andreiutz about root02:33
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: ls should show you that there's a log for Xorg02:34
someotherguytarheelcoxn: Irritatingly enough the computer is in the other room, so I have to keep running around.02:34
bob2Aurora: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:34
bob2Grug: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:34
dnBwhen typing "sudo squid restart" i get the msg "/etc/dansguardian/languages" any ideas? :P02:34
bob2Grug: installing them doesn't require any compilation02:34
dachnaz_bob2, Thanks.02:34
dnBwoops02:34
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dnB"squid already running"02:34
bob2dnB: do you mean 'sudo invoke-rc.d squid restart' or 'sudo /etc/init.d/squid restart'?02:35
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: in that case, what you want to do is this:02:35
someotherguytarheelcoxn: Xorg.0.log02:35
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tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log > xorg.log02:35
bob2Aurora: guess we need the end of apache2' error.log and your /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default02:35
dnBbob2, lol i have no idea02:35
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: then post xorg.log somewhere where we can see it02:35
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bob2dnB: the command you gave will more or less do nothing useful02:35
Koriodeb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse i have that in sources.list and yet i cant find mplayer02:35
bob2dnB: either of the ones I mentioned will restarts02:35
bob2Korio: get rid of that, for a start02:36
Aurorawhere would error.log be?02:36
dnBbob2, thanks again, you help helpful man02:36
Koriobob2,  why?02:36
bob2Korio: then actually read the page I pointed you at, and enable the universe repository02:36
bob2er, multivser02:36
Grugwell i guess i'm going to try that link bob - thanks02:36
bob2dnB: np02:36
Auroraand whats rootsudo got to do with anything?02:36
bob2Aurora: /var/log/apache2/02:36
someotherguytarheelcoxn: Well, it said access denied, which makes me assume I have to su first.02:36
bob2Aurora: that would be me sucking, sorry02:36
Auroraahh02:36
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: before you go02:36
someotherguytarheelcoxn: Also, how could I post it?02:36
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: do you have a webspace to post it to?02:36
someotherguyYup02:36
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: perfect02:37
krogoth64do the default packages for the dhcp and bind servers chroot them?02:37
Koriobob2, that link was for warty, and i dont run gnome02:37
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: upload xorg.log to your webspace02:37
bob2krogoth64: bind9, yes, dunno about dhcp (there's more than one of them)02:37
bob2Korio: awesome02:37
bob2Korio: #kubuntu, I guess (and it' snot just for warty)02:37
Koriobob2, i run xfce..02:37
necatorawww02:37
necatori found this really nice icon package on gnome-look.org02:38
bob2Korio: then presumably you know how to use aptitude or apt02:38
necatorbut the download dont work.02:38
someotherguytarheelcoxn: I don't believe the network connection on that computer is working right.02:38
necatorjust my luck02:38
krogoth64the dhcp3-server package?02:38
dachnaz_Alright. Thanks!! ^^02:38
Koriobob2, yes?02:38
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krogoth64it doesn't look like the init script does it02:38
someotherguytarheelcoxn: But I'll hack away at it and hope for the best.02:38
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bob2Korio: so read /etc/apt/sources.list and tell it to enable multiverse (the file explains how)02:38
kinkoblastWhat's everyone's favorite windowmanager? Mine's xfce.02:38
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: I recommend joining #xorg02:38
bob2krogoth64: I don't think it does, no02:38
Aurorabob2, oh duh, i forgot to change the permissions of the .htaccesses, dang hidden files, thanks for your help i think i can figure it from here :)02:38
someotherguytarheelcoxn: thanks for all your help, I'll be back.02:38
Koriobob2, well thats what I did before I even came to this channel02:38
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tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: best of luck!02:38
bob2kinkoblast: ion3.02:38
bob2Korio: if you had, mplayer would be available02:38
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tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: getting that box on the internet will be a BIG first step02:39
bob2Korio: perhaps now you should just show it to us, so we can tell you which line is incorrect02:39
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bob2Aurora: np02:39
kinkoblastIon3?02:39
zer0hi02:39
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someotherguytarheelcoxn: Oh, by the way, what's the default admin password, I don't remember having to set one.02:39
krogoth64bob2: do you know what part of the init script does the chroot?02:40
kinkoblastsomeotherguy: There isn't one.02:40
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kinkoblast!rootsudo02:40
ubotuhmm... rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo02:40
thoreauputic!tell someotherguy about sudo02:40
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doogluskrogoth64: debbootstrap?02:40
bob2krogoth64: for bind9, you mean?02:40
someotherguyI just tried to su and it asked for a password.02:40
krogoth64yeah02:40
bob2let me check on my nameserver02:40
bluefoxicyPrinting: Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE02:40
doogluskrogoth64: sorry - ignore that :)02:40
Koriobob2, u got pm02:40
thoreauputicsomeotherguy: read what th e bot sent you in msg02:40
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thoreauputicsomeotherguy: ubuntu uses sudo02:41
bob2Korio: #flood or pastebin.ca02:41
bob2(and the irc server blocked your message, anyway)02:41
tarheelcoxnsomeotherguy: best of luck!02:41
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siconhiya, so uh, I started to install ubuntu, and i rebooted like it said, it finished installing packages then apparently started X ... but it froze at that point. the problem is i have not had the opportunity to set root pass so ctrl+alt+f1 and logging in does no good without root02:41
bob2sicon: wtf02:42
bob2sicon: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:42
siconhrm02:42
Koriobob2, http://pastebin.ca/2850502:42
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bob2thoreauputic: haha02:42
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siconbob2: i am not following, i know what sudo is ...02:43
bob2Korio: line 19, add multiverse to the end of it02:43
siconbob2: the install never finished02:43
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bob2sicon: ok02:43
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dooglussicon: you have a user account with permission to sudo to root...02:43
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dnBcan anyone point me in the right direction? id like a user account to automatically log out after a predefined idle time02:44
dooglussicon: if not, you can boot into rescue mode and get root that way02:44
siconahh it automatically adds me to sudoer list02:44
sicondooglus: i have never installed ubunto so i am not sure if everything finished installing correctly02:44
Koriothx bob202:44
navynhey nalioth, i rebooted and everything works now02:44
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dooglussicon: it automatically adds you to the admin group, and all members of the admin group can sudo to root02:44
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PJeremyhow do i make a softlink from motifwrapper to libXm.so ?02:45
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zblachhowdy02:45
dooglusPJeremy: ln -s libXm.so motifwrapper02:45
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sicondooglus: see my problem though? apparently X is running, i hear the drum sound but I am not seeing a desktop :-o02:45
PJeremydooglus: with directories i assume?02:45
dooglussicon: control-alt-F1 ?02:45
OrbordeIs there a shortcut key to switch between GNOME workspaces?02:46
dooglusPJeremy: if you like :)02:46
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siconyeah i am logged in and sudo'd a shell02:46
PJeremydooglus: well, is it necessary? ;)02:46
bob2Orborde: dunny if there is a default, but you can set one02:46
thoreauputicOrborde:  ctrl-alt-arrow02:46
zblachcan one recommend a program like winamp (with internet radio stations)?02:46
sicondooglus: but i am unsure why X isn't displaying, yet the X server IS running, i know the vid card supports it, as i just took openbsd off it ...02:46
dooglusPJeremy: you could cd to the directory you want to make the link in first.02:46
krogoth64why doesn't the disk manager send the mount configuration?02:46
server_newbieI am having big problems setting up shorewall & knockd and get them to work togther can someone spend a few minutes to help me ?02:46
dooglusPJeremy: then, if the link and the target are in the same directory you need not specify directories02:47
dooglussicon: you may need to fiddle with /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:47
thoreauputiczblach:  sudo apt-get install streamtuner xmms streamripper02:47
Orbordethoreauputic / bob2 : Thanks02:47
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siconhmmm ... this could be interesting, i have 3 displays, i normally use Xorg --configure but ok02:47
thoreauputiczblach: STREAMTUNER WILL GIVE YOU A WHOLE BUNCH OF STATIONS02:47
thoreauputicOOP02:47
zblachi have xmms, but streamtuner and streamripper?02:47
PJeremydooglus: that would be the motif one ? and no, they're not, libxm is in /usr/lib and motifwrapper is in /usr/lib/opera/plugins02:47
thoreauputicdamn caps lock02:47
thoreauputicsorry for the noise people02:48
zblachthoreauputic, ok, thank.s thought that was a warning.02:48
bob2server_newbie: you need to be more specific02:48
dooglusPJeremy: so I would run "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libxm /usr/lib/opera/plugins/whateveritwascalled"02:48
thoreauputiczblach: I just hit the wrong key, sorry :|02:48
PJeremydooglus: alrighty, thanks02:48
dooglusPJeremy: (only with more correct paths)02:48
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zblachthoreauputic, no problem02:50
thoreauputiczblach: streamtuner uses xmms by default - you can use other players like bee--media-player or whatever you like02:50
KorioI dont get picture while streaming with mplayer in firefox but I get no sound02:50
zblachnow, will streamtuner use xmms?02:50
zblachoh, thanks.02:50
zblachlaggy.02:50
KorioI mean. i do get picture but no sound02:50
thoreauputic*beep-media-player02:50
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Zealot87does anyone run windows on a dual boot?02:51
server_newbiebob2 I have tries to set up the shorewall conf files firewall works, and so does the knock how ever the port won't open02:51
thoreauputiczblach: streamripper integrates with streamtuner and allow you to rip from radio02:51
necatorhow do i install a metacity theme i downloaded from gnome-look.org02:51
b1n0ryif i'm unable to use the LiveCD, might i have success with a full install or should i not waste my time?02:51
PJeremydooglus: what should it say if it was successful? should it say "blabla file exists" ?02:51
dooglusPJeremy: it should be quiet02:51
necatorzealot87 i currently run windows on a dual boot02:52
thoreauputicnecator: open the themes dialog and drag th etar ball onto it02:52
PJeremydooglus: well, it tells me that motifwrapper exists, quite obviously it does..02:52
soundrayb1n0ry, it depends on what the problem was with the live CD.02:52
thoreauputicnecator: then check the "details" tab02:52
dooglusPJeremy: sounds like you already either have the link you want, or an alternative file of the same name02:52
bob2server_newbie: why are you using knockd at all?02:52
zorinb1n0ry did you burn the disk as a image02:53
PJeremydooglus: well, if i had the link, motifwrapper would find libXm..02:53
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server_newbieI don't want open ports , but I want to geto ssh and ftp02:53
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b1n0rysoundray it got to a point where it was "Entering Preinstalled Session" gave me a red screen and then presented me with a menu that asked me to try again (or choose another step of the process)02:53
dooglusPJeremy: run "ls -l /usr/lib/opera/whatever" - what's that show you?02:53
b1n0ryzorin yeah, disk was fine.02:53
thoreauputicserver_newbie: to run services, ports *have* to listen02:53
dooglusthoreauputic: I think that's the point - with 'knockd' they don't...02:54
necatorthx thoreauputic that worked . does the same process apply to icons?02:54
zorinb1n0rywhat version is the disk02:54
jessicaNZhow do I get ubuntu to automaticly mount my windows (vfat) partition so that normal users can write to it?02:54
thoreauputicnecator: haven't tried it - worth a try02:54
b1n0ryzorin most recent, i believe. i downloaded it yesterday from the website.02:54
PJeremydooglus: -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 77520 2005-09-16 12:14 /usr/lib/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-302:54
dooglusPJeremy: that's a file...02:54
thoreauputicnecator: icon themes live in ~/.icons IIRC02:54
dooglusPJeremy: try an 'ls -l' on the thing you're trying to link to as well02:55
bob2server_newbie: er, you're being silly02:55
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Zealot87necator, i cant get the windows installer to install on an unpartitioned amount of space02:55
bob2server_newbie: just use shorewall and forget about knockd02:55
thoreauputicnecator: but there they have to be uncompresed02:55
Zealot87necator, so i tell it to create a partition that will work with windows, and it still tells me that it doesnt work02:55
bob2server_newbie: ssh with rsa keys is effectively unbreakable, ftp is so insecure that it's not worth bothering with02:55
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soundrayb1n0ry, is this a very recent machine?02:56
server_newbiebob2 how do I gets files02:56
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b1n0rysoundray it's about a year old02:56
soundrayb1n0ry, standard hardware?02:56
bob2server_newbie: rsync, sftp, scp02:56
bob2server_newbie: they all work over ssh02:56
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dooglusserver_newbie: you can use 'scp'02:57
MrFartswow. this is nice02:57
b1n0rysoundray pretty much. only thing that most machines don't have is the live drive for my SB card02:57
MrFartsLiveCd works perfectly02:57
MrFartsi'm impressed02:57
PJeremydooglus: http://pastebin.com/42731002:57
soundrayb1n0ry, don't know what that is, but it shouldn't affect your graphics.02:57
bluefoxicyMr_Milenko:  the livecd sets up X automatically; on an Ubuntu install, if you change from an nVidia video card to a Radeon, X refuses to start and you have to reinstall.02:57
bluefoxicy*mrFarts02:57
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bluefoxicyMrFarts:  I'd say the livecds are more perfect than the base ubuntu install :)02:57
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soundrayb1n0ry, which is where your problem may lie.02:58
b1n0rysoundray nope, it doesn't. standard on-board nvidia card. i never got to a graphical screen.02:58
jorge_if my windows is on hda1, how can I put it in the boot menu02:58
jorge_cause it's not showing it02:58
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MrFartsbluefoxicy, why's that ?02:58
b1n0rysoundray ubuntu doesn't work with SB cards?02:58
bluefoxicyMrFarts:  Well, you don't have to reinstall; you can go through the shell, vim /etc/X11R6/xorg.conf and set it up; but a noob would reinstall02:58
server_newbiebob2: is there a set of conf files out there pre-conf for shorewall ?02:58
dooglusPJeremy: maybe you want to move that plugin out the way and then put in the link in its place02:58
Zealot87necator02:58
bob2server_newbie: /usr/share/doc/shorewall/02:58
Zealot87?02:58
necatorzealot87 install your windows first.02:58
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bluefoxicyisn't it sad?02:58
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jorge_how can i mount a drive02:58
necatorzealot87 then your linux. windows dosent like to share with others.02:58
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lightbrightI just ordered 5 CD ubuntu02:59
soundrayb1n0ry, if SB is SoundBlaster, it does.02:59
MrFartsbluefoxicy, i want to install just to see how the installer works02:59
Elocksorry to bother everyone, but how do I change the password for my root account?02:59
lightbrightwill this be latest ubunt with latest kernel and kde and gnome?02:59
bluefoxicyMrFarts:  go for it.  DOn't hurt yourself though : )02:59
b1n0rysoundray it is. the "non-standard" device is just the drive-bay extension of the Audigy2 card.02:59
bob2Elock: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:59
thoreauputicbluefoxicy: the path you gave for xorg.conf is sad too ( try /etc/X11/xorg.conf )02:59
bluefoxicyMrFarts:  you've installed an OS before right?  :>02:59
vader1102Have a question here, other than evolution, what is a good email program with a calendar?02:59
soundrayb1n0ry, have you tried different boot options?02:59
server_newbieThanks bob202:59
bob2Elock: it's in the FAQ, and the installer also prompted you to say you'd read it during the install02:59
bluefoxicythoreauputic: yeah.  Doesn't cahnge the issue though.02:59
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PJeremydooglus: well, opera uses motifwrapper-3, but can't find it for some odd reason, now i read in a forum entry that someone softlinked them..02:59
MrFartsbluefoxicy, i've been using linux since about 1993 :)03:00
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soundrayb1n0ry, specifically the ones referring to graphics/framebuffers etc.03:00
bluefoxicyMrFarts:  Ah, ok.03:00
Elockbob2: thanks03:00
lightbrighti just ordered 5 CDs! will this be latest ubunt with latest kernel and kde and gnome?03:00
vader1102Evolution crashes when I use the calendar ;-(03:00
jorge_does anybody have windows on their pc too?03:00
b1n0rysoundray you think the problem might be video card related?03:00
bluefoxicyCan someone please help me with samba before I kill something?03:00
bob2lightbright: yes...03:00
jorge_i need to look at what the windows entry looks like in the grub config03:00
MrFartsbluefoxicy, the days of manual xf86 modelines :)03:00
bob2bluefoxicy: not unless you ask an actual question03:00
MrFartsthat was fu03:00
soundrayb1n0ry, that's most likely from the limited information there is.03:01
soundrayb1n0ry, unless you had any other clues.03:01
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soundrayb1n0ry, answering your original question:03:01
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bluefoxicybob2:  Alright.  I installed samba on a remote machine with a printer; entered user rusty <password> here, it listed the printer in gnome's cups configurator, I selected it.03:01
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MrFartsi like thi03:01
MrFartss03:01
bluefoxicybob2:  Printing a testpage changes the status to "Printing: Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE"03:01
MrFartsfeels like BSD03:01
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soundrayb1n0ry, you would invest about 40 min, there being 10 min of actual work.03:01
someotherguytarheelcoxn: I figured it out!03:01
bluefoxicybob2:  solve for obvious problems.03:01
b1n0rysoundray the livecd went through scanning for the hardware, then the nice blue boot-loader screen went red said "Failed Entering Preinstalled Session" then gave me a menu with about 20 options on it to choose the next step of the installation process. all the info i have.03:02
Cry_Mac_UbuntuHow do I check my ip?03:02
soundrayb1n0ry, after that, you will very likely have a system where at least the command line works.03:02
bluefoxicybob2:  and yes I already usurped root on the samba server over there and smbpasswd -e rusty03:02
MrFartsCry_Mac_Ubuntu, ifcnfig03:02
MrFartsCry_Mac_Ubuntu, ifcconfig03:02
MrFartser03:02
someotherguytarheelcoxn:Apparently my stupid roommate put a second videocard in when I wasn't looking, and I didn't notice it...it was loading x on it.03:02
MrFartsifconfig03:02
b1n0rysoundray then i could try to get x working... that what you're getting at?03:02
soundrayb1n0ry, exactly.03:02
b1n0rysoundray does ubuntu use xfree or x11-xorg?03:02
soundrayb1n0ry, xorg03:02
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b1n0rysoundray that's what i was hoping :)03:03
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b1n0rysoundray i've gotten half decent at configuring xorg03:03
soundrayb1n0ry, problem could be the CD too.03:03
soundrayb1n0ry, don't know how pressed you are for time, but I know I would try.03:03
Cry_Mac_Ubuntuhow do I make linux request a new ip address?03:03
PJeremyjorge_: did you get the query about grub?03:03
b1n0rysoundray i doubt it. cd worked fine on a virtual machine. i also verified the media from the aforementioned menu03:03
superchodeifdown, ifup03:04
bluefoxicyCry_Mac_Ubuntu:  sudo dhclient eth003:04
bob2Cry_Mac_Ubuntu: 'sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0', perhaps.03:04
Cry_Mac_Ubuntu...03:04
jorge_PJeremy: yes but, thanks, but I messaged you back03:04
bob2bluefoxicy: that will go terribly wrong if there is an existing daemonized dhclient03:04
Cry_Mac_UbuntuOkay, thanks.03:04
bluefoxicybob2:  really?03:04
Cry_Mac_Ubuntubye03:04
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PJeremyjorge_: heh, didn't get anything.03:04
jorge_I'd like to know waht savedefault, chainloader +1, and makeactive does03:04
soundrayb1n0ry, what distribution did you use with xorg, and was that on the same machine?03:04
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b1n0rysoundray no, not the same machine. but with fedora.03:05
bluefoxicybob2:  so no answer on my remote printing issue huh?03:05
bob2bluefoxicy: nope, I don't use samba printing03:05
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PJeremyjorge_: sorry, don't know that, ubuntu set it up during installation.03:05
jorge_Ah, thanks anyways03:05
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jorge_I'll set it up like that too03:06
bob2jorge_: 'info grub', after installigng grub-doc.03:06
necatorhow do i install a sound theme?03:06
b1n0rysoundray as soon as i finish backing up this drive i'm going to wipe out, i'm going to give it a try.03:06
MrFartsman, i wish i had heard of this earlier03:06
MrFartsthis is sweet03:07
MrFartseverything i want03:07
b1n0ryare there any known issues with dual-booting windows xp if the two OS's reside on different drives?03:07
soundrayb1n0ry, hope you can get it to run.03:07
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vader1102Has anyone had Evolution crash after opening the calendar?03:07
vader1102using Breezy03:07
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justtestingandso!testtest03:08
ubotujusttestingandso: No idea03:08
justtestingandso!note_me_about_msg03:08
ubotujusttestingandso: Are you smoking crack?03:08
thoreauputicjusttestingandso: *cough*03:08
necatordoes anyone know how to install a sound theme from gnome-look.org ?03:08
Zealot87necator, then how do you install ubuntu afterwords so that you can choose which one to boot?03:09
justtestingandsoi somehow registered my nick (oskude) and the command was given by ubotu, but the command didnt as for password, so i cant use my nick. DOH03:09
necatorzealot87 do u mean after windows is already installed?03:09
Zealot87yeah03:10
MrFartsis there an ms core fonts package for ubuntu ?03:10
soundrayb1n0ry, I haven't tried this myself but would expect no problem.03:10
necatorzealot87 ubuntu will detect that windows is there and ask you if u want to install a boot loader.03:10
justtestingandso!msg03:10
ubotuplease don't /msg people or start a personal message/ dcc chat without asking first in channel. People might be busy, and you have a better chance of an answer in the channel. Don't assume a particular user will be able to help you.03:10
necatorzealot87 then when your comp turns on b4 an os loads youll get like a window that lists all your os unbutu and windows03:10
StevenKMrFarts: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/msttcorefonts03:10
jorge_im gonna try out my new grub file03:10
jorge_hope it works :S03:10
necatorzealot87 and u just pick one with arrow keys and press enter and it boots into that.03:10
soundrayb1n0ry, older Win versions were particular about wanting to be on the first HD, so you could arrange it like that to be on the safe side.03:10
necatorzealot87 ubuntu will know how to work with windows once its installed its just windows dosent know how to work with linux.03:10
MrFartsStevenK, thanks03:11
Zealot87necator, ok thanks, i guess i will have to reinstall ubuntu and windows then03:11
necatorzealot87 thats y u install the windows first cuss the ubuntu will know what to do with the windows when its intalled. just pay close attention to the ubuntu installers wizard.03:11
Zealot87why what will it say?03:11
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necatorzealot87 im not sure if thats the only way possible im new at this stuff my self but from what i know i belive thats how it has to be done.03:11
justtestingandsook, i didnt read it comlete http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup, doh03:12
Zealot87necator, ok thanks for the help, i will try tonight03:12
necatorzealot87 when ubuntu is installing and its partitioing it self its going to recongize the windows partion and ask u if u want to destroy it or install ubuntu in the free space03:12
necatorzealot87 after u install ubuntu and leave the windows part intact then it will ask u if u want to install a boot loader and u say yes.03:12
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MrFartsbtw, does ubuntu include qt libs ?03:14
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dabaRMrFarts: why not have a non farts nick?03:14
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StevenKMrFarts: I expect so.03:14
MrFartsdabaR, why not have a non-lame nick ?03:14
dabaRMrFarts: ok sorry03:15
soundraySomeone stinks.03:15
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dabaRMrFarts: /msg ubotu ask the bot03:15
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dabaRlol03:15
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dabaRMrFarts: /msg ubotu find qt03:15
MrFartsthanks03:15
sazwerxhelp.. anyone here knows how to setup CDMA phone by Qualcomm?03:15
dabaRor libqt.~, or apt-cache search libqt, or aptitude search libqt03:16
Zealot87ok gotcha gotcha, it makes sense03:16
dabaRbah03:16
Zealot87necator, will do thanks for the help!03:16
necatorcan someone tell me what this means03:16
necatorno problem zealot8703:16
necatorzealot87 good luck03:16
MrFartslibqt4-core03:16
MrFartsseems like something03:16
necatorcan someone tell me what this means03:16
Zealot87hehe thanks03:16
necatorIMPORTANT! You must do 'su' with the '-p' flag in order to preserve your home dir variable while running as superuser)03:16
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dduckoDont run as superuser?03:16
necatori dont understand what thats telling me :p03:16
MrFartsyou know the only thing that i don't like about ubuntu so far is the stupid logo03:16
necatori dont know what -p or home varibale is03:17
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MrFartsi don't care to see politically correct black people :)03:17
dabaRMrFarts: I hate ubuntu.03:17
dduckoIts telling that if your usuing the su03:17
MrFartsdabaR, the logo or the distribution?03:17
necatorwhat if i use sudo dducko?03:17
necatorcuss i dont know what su does either03:17
dabaRMrFarts: anything to do with it.03:17
daveany1 hlep me installing wine pm me pls03:17
daveany1 hlep me installing wine pm me pls03:17
dduckothat unless you use the -p  you cant hit cd  to go home directory03:17
MrFartsdabaR, why are you in an ubuntu channel then03:17
necatordave03:18
daveya03:18
dduckoor use ~ as your home directory in lines03:18
necatorsudo apt-get install wine03:18
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MrFartsdabaR, and what do you hate about it exactly ?03:18
necatori think thats all u have to do03:18
dduckosudo keeps it, unless you do sudo  -s I believe03:18
dabaRdave: enable universe, "sudo aptitude install wine" in a terminal03:18
dduckonot sure03:18
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dabaRMrFarts: stop trolling me.03:18
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MrFartsdabaR, ok, whatever03:18
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necatorwhere is the themes folder located?03:19
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dabaRhaha03:19
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dabaRnecator: for what wm?03:20
DMJChow do you set samba to run at boot?03:20
DMJCthe machine is headless03:20
b1n0ryDMJC ntsysv03:20
b1n0ryDMJC lets you select the services you want to start at boot03:21
necatorwhats a wm ?03:21
thoreauputicDMJC: smba should run at bot by default03:21
necatorim tryin to install a sound package i downloaded.03:21
DMJChmm k03:21
b1n0rynecator window manager, such as gnome or kde03:21
necatorgnome03:21
b1n0rynecator wait, i lied03:21
thoreauputicDMJC:  /etc/init.d/samba03:21
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DMJCkj03:22
dabaRb1n0ry: gnome or kde are not wms, but ok...03:22
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b1n0rynecator those would be desktop managers03:22
dabaRhaha, nice:)03:22
b1n0ryor rather 'desktop environments'03:22
myrth_how do i install nvidia-glx on kubuntu?03:22
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dabaRnecator: well, download the file off the net, and install it through the gui, or something.03:23
necatordabar ya i cant figure out how.03:23
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b1n0rynecator still 'wm' = window manager such as twm, used to handle the ways that windows interact with X03:23
MrFartshow can i search for a package in a repository ?03:23
necatordabar i have the file already just dont know how to install it.03:23
b1n0rydabaR did i redeem myself? ;)03:23
dabaRnecator: tried system prefs themes?03:24
thoreauputicMrFarts: erm - apt-cache search <keywords>   ?03:24
necatorya dosent work in there dabar03:24
MrFartsthomhash, thanks03:24
davecan u read windows partitions under ubuntu?03:24
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thoreauputicdave: yes03:24
FR500hello03:24
davewhere they at ? lol03:24
FR500is there a scanning program with a better gui than xsane? i mean, it's great but is far from being intuitive03:24
thoreauputic!tell dave about mountwindows03:24
dabaRnecator: http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q2 ?03:24
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davety03:24
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thoreauputicFR500: I think you can use the GIMP for scanning (havne' got a scanner here)03:25
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thoreauputicFR500: KDE has kooka IIRC03:26
MrFartswhat in the world is vmware player ?03:26
nybbzhey, having problems resizing ntfs partition. is it even possible using the ubuntu installer?03:26
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glickdamn is there anything i can do if my landlord is beating around the bush when i request him to turn on my heat?03:26
Siph0n!tell Siph0n about mountwindows03:26
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glickit apartment has been freezing for two weeks, when i asked him03:26
FR500thomhash, kk, gonna check em out03:27
dabaRglick: ya, offer ubuntu.03:27
glickhow about i offer him a court summons03:27
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whynotworkhmm, a little off-topic. i registered my nick (oskude) with "/msg nickserv register <password>" and relogged with it (password set in xchat preferences for that server) login went ok and freenode authorized me. but still "oskude" cant post on this channel ?!?!?!03:27
glickif i get a cold im sueing his ass03:27
dabaRright, that works too.03:27
thoreauputicglick: promise not to burn his house down? *grin*03:27
trincamckeehttp://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7766/multiplexfce0fa.jpg , as u can see i have 2 xfce entries listed, how can i delete one of them?03:27
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FR500thoreauputic, kooka looks good, to bad it's kde03:28
FR500looks to different03:29
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thoreauputictrincamckee: edit (delete)  the *.desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions03:29
mmiikkee12what's the difference between hard and symblic links?03:29
fanopnaicwhynotwork: are you sure you were authorized?03:29
whynotworkfanopnaic, 100% sure03:29
thoreauputictrincamckee: there will be two - I asume you want to keep the xfce4 one03:29
trincamckeethoreauputic, but "xsession" is a folder or a script?03:29
thoreauputicit'sa dirctory03:30
trincamckeeactualy i want that is selected03:30
thoreauputictrincamckee: cd /usr/shar/xsessions ; ls03:30
fanopnaicwhynotwork: because you have a n= prefix on your ident, and I think that means that you are not identified :)03:30
thoreauputic* /usr/share/xsessions03:30
ssdd534how do i make my ubuntu rereconize the hardware like it did during the install?03:30
trincamckeei dont have that dolder03:30
trincamckee=/03:30
whynotworkfanopnaic, i copy the messages, brb03:30
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thoreauputictrincamckee: are you using KDM ?03:31
trincamckeesorry my mistake03:31
trincamckeei have03:31
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leeroyHi, I am trying to install a dual boot of xp and ubuntu 5.10 on my system.  It has two harddrives, one of which is hooked up through ata, and the other of which is hooked up through a pci card with more ata slots.  When I try to install, Windows goes on fine, but then Ubuntu sort of messes things up by popping up the error of "Cannot find operating system".  Any ideas as to the source of this?03:31
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thoreauputictrincamckee: it has files in it - delete the one you don't want03:31
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ssdd534how do i make my second cdrom that i just added auto mount?03:32
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dachnaz_Why does my password suddenly not work?03:32
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mmiikkee12ssdd534: remove noauto from fstab03:32
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ssdd534mmiikkee12, thanks03:32
myrth_argh... installed nvidia-glx, and now all the fonts are huge - where do i change dpi in kubuntu?03:32
mmiikkee12wait, did you mean at boot or when you put a cd in?03:32
punkassis there away to install grub to the root partition after ubuntu has been installed?03:32
thoreauputicssdd534: did you put an entry in /etc/fstab for it?03:33
fanopnaicoskude: working now?03:33
dachnaz_Why doesn't my password work?03:33
trincamckeetank u it worked03:33
mmiikkee12dachnaz_: login as root and do passwd yourname03:33
thoreauputictrincamckee: :)03:33
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leeroyAny idea why installing a dual boot with Ubuntu causes the error, "Unable to find operating system" at bootup?03:33
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mmiikkee12what's the difference between hard and symbolic links?03:34
dachnaz_mmiikkee12, no such thing as root in Ubuntu.03:34
mmiikkee12yes there is03:34
mmiikkee12it just isn't as hard to get to03:34
thoreauputicleeroy: the only time I've seen that it was a BIOS issue - try resetting the BIOS to defaults03:34
dachnaz_No, there isn't...03:34
dachnaz_If there is then how do I get to it?03:34
dooglusI have "n=" in front of my name whether I'm registered or not03:34
mmiikkee12sudo passwd and then su03:34
leeroyI have two harddrives, one of which is IDE, and the other is hooked up through a PCI card, could that make a difference?03:34
mmiikkee12the root pswd is your password03:35
necatordachnaz_ u can create it.03:35
myrth_anyone can tell me where do i change in kubuntu gui screen dpi?03:35
dachnaz_You guys don't get it.03:35
mmiikkee12there is a root03:35
dachnaz_ I need the password to do these things! And it doesn't work!03:35
fanopnaicmmiikkee12: a soft link points to another file. a hard link directly points to the specific piece of data on the harddrive.03:35
dooglusdachnaz_: you can set the root password like this: "sudo passwd"03:35
mmiikkee12it's your password03:35
thoreauputic!tell dachnaz_ about root03:35
fanopnaicmmiikkee12: (simplified)  see http://www.google.com/search?&q=difference%20soft%20link%20hard%20link03:35
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necatordachnaz_ use the password you used for your login account.03:35
mmiikkee12ok03:35
dachnaz_dooglus, Dammit it asks me for a password and it doesn't WORK!03:35
FR500thoreauputic, when i plug my scanner i gotta change permissions manually to access it (like chmod 666 /proc/bus/usb/003/005 or something alike, is there a way to make it set like that automatically?03:36
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thoreauputicdachnaz_: read what the bot sent you03:36
myrth_dachnaz_: are you putting your regular user password?03:36
necatordachnaz_ YOUR ACCOUNT PASSWORD IS THE PASSWORD.03:36
dooglusdachnaz_: I was disputing your "there's no root account in ubuntu" outrage :)03:36
dachnaz_How thick can you guys get...03:36
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mmiikkee12!root03:36
uboturoot is, like, disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo03:36
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dooglusnecator: he's forgotten his user's password - or someone's changed it for him03:36
dachnaz_I am using my regular user password. It does NOT work.03:36
thoreauputicFR500: probably - I don't know03:36
necatordachnaz_ your the thick one. we trying to help your thick skull03:36
leeroyDon't bite the hand that feeds you...03:36
necatordooglus he thinks he needs another password called root.03:36
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dooglusdachnaz_: maybe you've got capslock on.  or maybe you changed to a czech keyboard layout03:36
FR500ok03:36
necatordooglus we are telling him his usr accoutn is the root password.03:36
dooglusnecator: I don't think he does.03:36
dachnaz_(-.-)03:37
thoreauputicdachnaz_: read the Code of Conduct and please show respect for other users03:37
whynotworkok, i registered my password with "/msg nickserv register <password>" as user "oskude", logout and set my "nickserv password" in xchat for freenode server. on login i get "Password accepted - you are now recognized: services. sets mode +e oskude: You have no new memos" and then i "/join #ubuntu" and when saying something i get "#ubuntu :Cannot send to channel", wtf ?03:37
dachnaz_(*.*)03:37
necatordooglus if he does sudo he will be fine03:37
dooglusdachnaz_: can you log in as yourself still?03:37
mmiikkee12rm -Rf / and reinstall :) (jk)03:37
intelikeydachnaz_ are you needing to know how to reset your password ?03:37
necatordooglus but hes rude no point helping him.03:37
dachnaz_dooglus, no I cannot03:37
myrth_guys, where do i change dpi?03:37
myrth_of screen03:37
dachnaz_intelikey, This is probably necessary.03:37
dooglusnecator: I think he's being rude 'cos he's frustrated that everyone is answering a question that he didn't ask :)03:38
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necatordooglus i think someone did tell him that solution first and he said it was wrong so we told him another one.03:38
dooglusnecator: boot into rescue mode and reset your password from there if it really has changed.03:38
leeroyIs there a way to install linux first, and then to install Windows alongside it?03:38
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mmiikkee12yes03:39
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dooglusnecator: try typing it at the command prompt to see if it looks right03:39
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thoreauputicleeroy: yes, but the other way round is easier03:39
myrth_leeroy: i think u'll have to reinstall grub after that03:39
_native_leeroy; windows will overwrite grub.03:39
mmiikkee12just have a grub floppy handy, install windows, then boot the floppy and reinstall03:39
ssdd534ok i tryed adding my new cdrom to fstab.... but it wont mount03:39
_native_leeroy; which is not good03:39
necatorleeroy easier to go windows first.03:39
ssdd534any way i try to mount it03:39
httpdssim having this problem from a long time ago .. and that is: once i configured pppoe with the pppoeconfig utility .. and from then on, when i boot 2 or 3 ppp instances get created and the connection doesnt route fine .. how can i make this this ubuntu to run only one instance of ppp on bootup ??03:39
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dachnaz_:X03:39
mmiikkee12did you put user in the options?03:40
leeroyOkay, cool03:40
dachnaz_brb then, rebooting into safe mode or whatevers.03:40
necatordooglus im not the one with the password problem he is.03:40
whynotworkdo i have a fraking bug or what ? :)03:40
mmiikkee12ssdd534: what's the error?03:40
dooglusnecator: you all look the same to me, you IRC nicks03:40
ssdd534can not mount specal device /dev/hdd03:40
intelikeydachnaz_ reboot and at the grub prompt (assuming grub)  hit [esc]  then  E  to edit the startup command line.    and add 1  that is the number one   or single  this should boot you into a root console where you can type "passwd <name> "  and set your passwd.  then use 'init 2 ' to continue the normal boot process.03:40
ssdd534it says /dev/hdd dosnt exist03:40
necatorintelikey he isnt here.03:40
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intelikeyyes i'm lagging...03:41
BOBBIEhi how do i change file permissions of a file :?03:41
krogoth64is shorewall the best way to manage iptables?03:41
whynotworkwell, gotta fo help myself (like allways03:41
thoreauputicBOBBIE:  chmod03:42
httpdssBOBBIE: chmod03:42
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dachnaz_Rebooting worked. Wierd shiz.03:42
ssdd534i need to add a new dev to /dev.... how would i do so?03:42
klontji'm trying to change my theme to clearlooks under System->Prefences->Theme ->Install theme. It asks for the location of the theme - where is the theme located-which directory?03:42
intelikeydachnaz_ just rebooting fixed it ?03:43
dachnaz_How can I add something to start when the system starts up? In gentoo it's something like rc-update add fooprog default03:43
httpdssklontj: it show appear if installed from package ..03:43
dachnaz_intelikey, Yeah.03:43
thoreauputicklontj: clearlooks is already installed (in breezy anyway) just click on the icon/picture03:44
dooglusdachnaz_: if it's something little, just add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh03:44
thoreauputicdachnaz_:  update-rc.d03:44
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glickJEEEEEEEEEEESSSUS CHRIIIIIIST its cold!03:45
httpdsshow can i run only 1 instance of pppd on bootup ??03:45
ssdd534i need to add a new dev to /dev.... how would i do so?03:45
necatordachnaz_ not sure if its the same thing but what i do is open my programs then when i log out i press save current setup.03:45
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intelikeyhttpdss remove the symlink in /etc/rc2.d/03:45
dachnaz_so, for instance,  $ update-rc.d /home/dachnaz/ts2/startupscript start runlvl 203:45
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dnBhi, wondering if anyone knows what might cause the mouse pointer to be off from where im actually clicking? (clicks button 2 inches above where pointer appears to be?)03:46
dachnaz_nvm.03:46
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thoreauputicdachnaz_: erm, update-rc.d is for scripts in /etc/init.d and so on03:47
dachnaz_Ok03:47
klontjI click on the picture and nothing happens - shouldn't the brown background color change?03:47
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ssdd534ok... iadded a new cdrom to my system... but it seems there is no /dev/hdd (where the new cdrom is)... what can i do to fix this?03:47
ohmannnnnnickserv sucks. it says my user is regonized but posting in #ubuntu gives me "#ubuntu :Cannot send to channel"03:47
dnBheh, can someone tell me how to make an application load on startup? (dansguardian a webfilter)?03:47
ssdd534dnB System > prefs > sessions03:48
intelikeydachnaz_ i'd 'cp  /home/dachnaz/ts2/startupscript /etc/rc2.d/S99startupaddons03:48
cfacan any1 explain why i can not run make & make clean03:48
thoreauputicklontj: if you mean the desktop - no. You change the wallpaper for that - or do you mean changing themes has no effect on your widgets/ windows etc?03:48
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intelikeycfa installed build essentials ?03:49
thoreauputiccfa: have you installed the "build-esential" package?03:49
klontjsorry - i thought the wallpaper would also change03:49
dnBssdd534, will that work for loading an application that needs sudo on a non sudo account?03:49
cfadont know03:49
thoreauputicbuild-essential (singular)03:49
cfalet me check03:49
dnBfor instance, squid is autoloaded, however isnt listed in the sessions start up03:49
ssdd534dnB... i have no idea... sorry03:49
thoreauputicklontj: to change wallpaper right click the background and choose to change it03:50
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dnBssdd534, thanks ;)03:50
cmcnamarhello03:50
cfathoreauputic, thanx i did not03:50
cfai just did03:50
cmcnamari am a n00b03:50
cmcnamarI just installed Ubuntu yesterday03:50
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klontjthoreauputic : thanks03:51
cmcnamaranyone know how to play mp3's?03:51
intelikeyyesterday would be a good name for the next release......03:51
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thoreauputiccfa: that should help - but make sure you have the right -dev packages as well for what you compile03:51
ohmannnnntest12303:51
ohmannnnnIRC SUCKS :)03:51
thoreauputic!mp303:51
ubotuI guess mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:51
ShadowpillarHow do I compile a kernel and make it into a .deb?03:52
cmcnamari have a bunch of mp3 files but I can't seem to figure out how to play them...  the only player my computer seems to have is rhythmbox, and it won't let me play mp3's03:52
thoreauputicShadowline: why?03:52
dooglusssdd534: sessions only works when you log in.  he wants it to run at boot.  I would suggest /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh03:52
thoreauputicShadowpillar: ^^^03:52
ohmannnnnis anyone familiar with freenode nickserv ?03:52
ssdd534o oops03:52
ssdd534read that wrong03:52
dooglusdnB: did you see that?  run your webfilter from /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh03:52
cfathoreauputic, i am going to install the madwifi-trunk-r1325-2005111103:52
necatorwhat is a WxWindows application?03:53
ssdd534ok... iadded a new cdrom to my system... but it seems there is no /dev/hdd (where the new cdrom is)... what can i do to fix this?03:53
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dnBdooglus, thanks ;)03:53
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ohmannnnncan u people even see my text ? (again)03:53
thoreauputiccmcnamar: if you read the URL the bot spat out all will be revealed03:54
trincamckeethoreauputic, i  deleted one of those entries but when i log i continue with the 2 xfce entries03:54
myrth_grrr.. i've set in xorg.conf DisplaySize but the fonts are still huge, please someone help me...03:54
intelikeyssdd534 MAKEDEV cdrom  maybe03:54
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thoreauputictrincamckee: that is very odd03:54
trincamckee/usr/share/xsessions/03:54
trincamckeethats the right dir?03:54
markwopinions on running 32bit?  Not that I need a huge addressable memory space or anything, the box should be _AS_ fast.03:54
ohmannnnnlol, im a ghost oaisjfoweijfwoiefjwoeifjwoiefjwoeifjwoeifj woeifj woeifjw eoifjw oeifj woiefj woiejfwoeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifjw oeifjwoeifj woeifj woiefj woeifj woiefj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj weoifj woeifj w03:55
thoreauputictrincamckee: does the entry reappear in that dir too?03:55
trincamckeedo i have to reboot?03:55
trincamckeeno03:55
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trincamckeejust to entries on xsession dir03:55
ssdd534intelikey, says it dosnt know how to make the device03:55
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thoreauputicohmannnnn: don't spam us please03:55
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trincamckeewhat im trying to say is that i have just one xfce entrie03:56
trincamckeein xsessions03:56
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ohmannnnnthomhash, i made a simple question where noone answered, so whought you dont see mee03:56
trincamckeebut doesnt seemed to worked03:56
dnBdooglus, apparently its already in init.d, however it seems it loads before squid, which causes it to close down, know how i can change the boot order? so i can have it boot after squid?03:56
thoreauputicohmannnnn: that's no escuse03:56
thoreauputicohmannnnn: any repetition and you are out of here, sorry03:57
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Shadow_pillarHow do I compile a kernel and make it into a .deb?03:57
ohmannnnnthoreauputic, well, i'm here to HELP others and i registered my password with "/msg nickserv register <your-password>" as user "oskude", logout and set my "nickserv password" in xchat for freenode server". on login i get "Password accepted - you are now recognized: services. sets mode +e oskude: You have no new memos" and then i "/join #ubuntu" and when saying something i get "#ubuntu :Cannot send to channel"...03:57
thoreauputicShadow_pillar: why?03:57
Shadow_pillarI want to compile a custom kernel03:58
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Shadow_pillarthoreauputic: because from what I hear pre-emp support is disabled in the default kernel03:58
rawtekcfa; are you there03:58
thoreauputicohmannnnn: because you have a gag (+q) I assume03:58
Shadow_pillarthoreauputic: and between hoary and breezy, I can notice it when trying to do ink work under the gimp03:58
intelikeyssdd534 look in /dev/ide/cd or host0  and see if you don't already have a device inode for it.....  if so you can symlink that   ln -s /dev/ide/cd/blah  /dev/cdrom#03:58
cfai am new to ubuntu and debian. I now RH, FreeBSD, Centos and other. does the standard install not include the source and how can i install it03:58
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balfourHi all.03:59
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Shadow_pillarwhen drawing, it uses 100% of the cpu, and the mouse skips around03:59
thoreauputicohmannnnn: which given your behaviour isn't surprising03:59
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cfarawtek yes how r u doing\03:59
Shadow_pillarohmannnnn: would you have to be juho?03:59
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dooglusdnB: you can edit the file and add stuff to it.  the numbers tell you the boot order.  look in /etc/rc2.d03:59
Shadow_pillarohmannnnn: have = happen03:59
dnBdooglus, thanks ;)03:59
ohmannnnnthoreauputic, no, i was allways oskude in here, until i registered it and couldnt talk here03:59
dooglusdnB: and from what I remember, bootmisc.sh is one of the last things to run - after squid I should think03:59
rawtekcfa; great thanks how is your network now03:59
cmcnamarhey....04:00
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ohmannnnnShadow_pillar, no, i was allways oskude in here, until i registered it and couldnt talk here04:00
cmcnamardoes anyone know how to install something from a .bin file in Ubuntu?04:00
balfourI'm trying to make a disk image of /dev/hdb, which may have been partially formatted, and I'm trying to move said image onto /home/theblue on /dev/hda1. I'm using the Hoary Live CD, as I don't want to screw up my normal Breezy configuration, and I want the image to be copied to the home folder on the Breezy installation.  Does anyone know how I would go about doing this?04:00
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dnBdooglus, according to this squid is s30 and dansguardian is s50.. so it should already be in the correct order/04:00
cmcnamarI'm trying to install RealPlayer, but it's in a .bin file04:00
dnB?*04:00
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dooglusdnB: right.04:00
ssdd534intelikey, sorry to be a pain... seems i dont have a /dev/ide :/04:00
thoreauputiccmcnamar: be specific -what is it and why are you installing it?04:00
Shadow_pillarthoreauputic: do I download a source deb package and compile it and then turn it into a deb?04:00
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cfasorry, back , have a newbirn and when he cries i need to run04:01
dnBdooglus, guess its some other problem then :) thanks04:01
cmcnamarit's RealPlayer10GOLD.bin04:01
cmcnamarand I'm installing it because Rhythmbox can't play MP3's04:01
ohmannnnnthoreauputic, my (current) behaviour is caused by nickserv not working right04:01
rawtekcmcnamr; ./realplayer file name after you cd to its location04:01
Shadow_pillar# CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set04:01
dooglusdnB: if you rename the s50 to a k50, it won't run.  then you can run it from bootmisc.sh instead04:01
thoreauputiccmcnamar: ah sorry I didn't see your post04:01
cmcnamarand I want to play MP3's04:01
dooglusdnB: 's' for 'start', 'k' for 'kill'04:01
Madpilot!tell cmcnamar about mp304:01
cmcnamarhow do I do that?04:01
dnBdooglus, ahh ;)04:01
rawtekmp3 use special codecs see ubuntu wiki04:01
dnBdooglus, would you mind if i pmed you?04:02
thoreauputiccmcnamar:  run  chmod +x RealPlay*    then run  sudo ./RealpPlay*.bin04:02
dooglusdnB: you can try :)  you need to have your nick registered or it won't let you04:02
rawtekyup04:02
dnBheh, ok04:02
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cmcnamarI read the RestrictedFormats page04:02
dooglusdnB: and I draw the line at cybersex04:02
thoreauputic!tell cmcnamar about restricted04:02
cmcnamarand it said that you can use RealPlayer04:02
balfourI'm trying to make a disk image of /dev/hdb, which may have been partially formatted, and I'm trying to move said image onto /home/theblue on /dev/hda1. I'm using the Hoary Live CD, as I don't want to screw up my normal Breezy configuration, and I want the image to be copied to the home folder on the Breezy installation.  Does anyone know how I would go about doing this?04:03
thoreauputiccmcnamar: YOU READ IT? iTTELLS YOU HOW!04:03
Shadow_pillarthoreauputic: can you help with the custom kernel?04:03
cmcnamarwhich is what I'm trying to install...04:03
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balfourAnd would "sudo cat /dev/hdb > ??????" work?04:03
thoreauputicShadow_pillar: not really sorry04:03
rawtekcfa; did you get your a/g working04:03
_native_realplayer sucks install beep-media-player or xmms and libmad004:03
Shadow_pillarthoreauputic: CONFIG_PREEMPT=y04:03
Shadow_pillar in 2.6.10 on hoary # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set04:03
Shadow_pillar on breezy04:03
cfarawtek the wireless did not work. do u know if the source is installed when u do a standard install04:03
rawteki like amarok but that is just me04:03
Shadow_pillarthoreauputic: my system is noticeably slow because of this04:03
rawtekcfa; what source please04:03
Madpilotcmcnamar: you don't need Realplayer just for mp3...04:03
ohmannnnnhmm, why cant i talk in #freenode ? i get "#freenode :Cannot send to channel" ?04:04
balfourBecause you have to stay in #freenode for a while to get to be able to talk.04:04
_native_cmcnamar; install beep-media-player04:04
ohmannnnnok, some1 granted me, foh04:04
thoreauputicohmannnnn: they need to voice you04:04
_native_cmcnamar; and libmad004:04
cfalinux kernel,04:05
rawtekcfa; I want to help you through this but you will need ndiswrapper installed and the driver file (not source) ready to go04:05
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balfourSo no one can tell me how to image a drive using Hoary Live?04:05
intelikey libmad0 is in main but not on the cd.....   :)04:05
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cfarawtek the ndiswrapper is install04:06
intelikeybalfour dd04:06
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cfainstalled04:06
rawtekok how about the driver for your wireless04:06
balfourintelikey: dd if=/dev/hdb of=??04:06
cfashould i download the win drivers04:06
rawtekyes if you can get a hold of the win driver in .inf format04:06
rawtekdo you have a disk04:06
intelikeybalfour where ever you have room for it file.img04:06
rawtekthat came with the pc04:06
bluefoxicycan someone explain ssh -x to me?04:07
cfaok i will and i have a usb disk04:07
balfourintelikey: How do I get it to dump the .img file to my HD-installed Breezy ~ folder?04:07
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bluefoxicybluefox@icebox:~$ ssh -x rusty@192.168.1.10004:07
bluefoxicyrusty@192.168.1.100's password:04:07
bluefoxicyrusty@icegate:~$ gedit04:07
bluefoxicy(gedit:21334): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:04:07
bluefoxicymainly, why in the fuck it doesn't work for me, ever.04:07
cfarawtek going now to download04:07
intelikeypoint it at the mount point blafour04:07
balfourbluefoxicy: Language, please.04:07
SEJeffbluefoxicy: Did you export your display?04:07
rawtekok i will be here ; cfa04:08
bluefoxicySEJeff:  no, how exactly is that done?04:08
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balfourintelikey: I'm using the live CD, it'll go to the one on the CD, won't it?04:08
balfourintelikey: Or the ramdisk?04:08
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rawtekcfa do you have an IM client04:08
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bluefoxicyoh04:08
bluefoxicyholy crap, it's -X04:08
SEJeffbluefoxicy: Obviously you know X is a client <--> server model. From the remote host, try: export DISPLAY=your.ip.address:0.004:08
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bluefoxicySEJeff:  it's -X, not -x04:08
SEJeffbluefoxicy: Oh, ha04:09
bluefoxicySEJeff:  excuse me for reading BSD mailing lists where nobody knows what a shift key is.04:09
intelikeybalfour like 'dd if=/dev/hdb of=/media/hda/file.img '   or where ever your hd is mounted.04:09
balfourOk, thanks.04:09
rawtekcan I make the PC beep when someone writes specifically to me?04:09
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cmcnamari'm trying to install the realplayer04:09
SEJeffbluefoxicy: You should try out nx, I am quite spoiled to it. And it is much faster than raw XDMP04:10
balfourintelikey: But I'm not sure where its mounted, and there's nothing in /media.04:10
cmcnamarbut the restrictedformats web page04:10
intelikeyrawtek xchat has that ability04:10
bluefoxicySEJeff:  i'm on breezy.  FreeNX isn't integrated04:10
cmcnamarsays that there's a support package I'm supposed to have04:10
SEJeffbluefoxicy: I believe that seveas's repo has packages, so yes it is :)04:10
cmcnamarhow do I get htis package?04:10
rawtekI am using that how do i set it04:10
bluefoxicySEJeff:  I searched a week ago for freenx.04:10
intelikeybalfour ' df '    or     'mount '   either should tell you.04:10
Madpilotcmcnamar: the package has a name?04:10
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bluefoxicySEJeff:  and just now.  Nothing.04:10
cmcnamari don't know what the name is!04:10
SEJeffbluefoxicy: Didn't search hard enough: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/freenx/04:10
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bluefoxicySEJeff:  that's not in breezy, that's additional :)04:11
SEJeffbluefoxicy: The developers are all kde developers for freenx04:11
cfarawtek i download the drives, but it is an .exe04:11
SEJeffbluefoxicy: your point being? It works fine04:11
SEJeffbluefoxicy: And it goes through ssh04:11
cmcnamarit just says there's a "support package needed by realplayer" that i'm supposed to install04:11
bluefoxicySEJeff:  oh jesus that means it'll take for eternity for gdm/freenx integration.04:11
rawtekok so you have to unzip t04:11
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cheebyhello04:11
cfarawtek, ok04:11
cfarawtek, 1 sec04:11
rawtekterminal unzip file name.exe04:12
Madpilotcmcnamar: read the stuff in the tan box - that mentions which addtional file you need04:12
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AwaySwordhello04:12
intelikeybalfour also if you know that your hd is hda but it's not mounted you can 'fdisk /dev/hda -l ' to list the partitions on hda...  then mount it some place with 'sudo mount /dev/hda# /mount/point '04:12
AwaySwordcan somebody help me04:12
SEJeffbluefoxicy: Redhat had a guy working on vnc <--> gdm integration right before nx was released. Don't know what happened though04:13
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cmcnamarwhat tan box?04:13
myrth_GTK styles and fonts doesn't start from settings.... what's the command line so i can see which error it gives?04:13
cheebyis there a quick debian way to add drivers and support for wireless?  I have a linksys wmp11.04:13
cheeby(desktop pc)04:13
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ohmannnnnok the friendly people at #freenode say the user "oskude" is muted here, may i ask why ??????04:13
rawtekcheeby ndiswrapper04:13
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Madpilotcmcnamar: in the RealPlayer section of RestrictedFormats, there is a box that starts "cd ~/Desktop" - please read that box04:14
SEJeffcheeby: Install ndisgtk from universe04:14
cfarawtek, unzip did nt work04:14
cfanot04:14
AwaySwordhow can i synchronise the time in my linux?04:14
cheebydoes ndiswrapper require Windows drivers?04:14
rawtekyes04:14
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rawtekcfa not sure where to go from here04:14
rawtekhold on04:14
Shadow_pillarBTW04:14
MadpilotAwaySword: right click on the clock, choose "Adjust Time & Date" - then pick an NTP server04:14
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balfourintelikey: And is there a utility to undelete files?04:14
fletch33i think trying to switch to linux or ubu is the hardest thing ive evr done and i have done a lot of hard stuff04:14
AwaySwordcan't04:14
balfourfletch33: Nonsense.04:14
AwaySwordit won't startup that time and date thingy04:14
cheebySEJeff, can you tell me how that command would be phrased?04:15
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balfourfletch33: Its not that hard.04:15
SEJefffletch33, ubuntu is easy04:15
fletch33i really want htis to work04:15
kestasis there any method to the madness in the ubuntu version numbering scheme?04:15
cheebyapt-get install ndisgtk... ?04:15
SEJeffcheeby: Open up synaptic04:15
balfourfletch33: You could have been using slackware or gentoo.04:15
MadpilotAwaySword: what happens when you try and start it?04:15
fletch33i cant figure it out04:15
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AwaySwordit just won't start04:15
ohmannnnncould be that i (oskude) got "auto-muted" cause i used "ubotu" too often ? (wihtout /msg)04:15
balfourfletch33: Uh oh.04:15
SEJeffcheeby: Yes, as long as you have universe enabled, do you?04:15
fletch33and i know windows inside and out04:15
bluefoxicySEJeff:  I made this insane post on gnome's bugzilla about using gpg keys and the pgp global keyserver for an e-mail/signature authentication method, with user<->email mapping to get user/signature authentication.04:15
DShepherdfletch33: apt-get install easy-ubuntu :)04:15
cheebySEJeff, not sure ... still installing.04:15
Shadow_pillartake notes: to all who complain about not being able to play realmedia and wmv files, find a w32codecs deb package, then install totem-xine04:15
intelikeyyes. mc has a recovery method built in it, but i'v never used it. balfour04:15
cfarawtek, i tried to unzip the .exe file, was that what i suppose to do04:15
fletch33what is that04:15
MadpilotAwaySword: "just won't start" isn't all that helpful... does Gnome give you an error message, or what?04:16
DShepherdfletch33: its a joke04:16
fletch33i just started thng up 2 days agois thi04:16
fletch33ok thanks04:16
fletch33lol04:16
fletch33ha ha ha ha04:16
DShepherdlol04:16
intelikeybalfour there may be other ways...  best to not remove things you want to keep.04:16
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Shadow_pillargstreamer is absolute shit and shouldnt be included in ubuntu just yet04:16
fletch33bad typing sorry04:16
ohmannnnnany channel admins here ?04:16
cheebySEJeff, this is kubuntu, so will kpackage work?04:16
SEJeffcheeby: I don't use kubuntu04:16
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balfourintelikey: No, many things were accidentally deleted by Asterisk@Home setup, is there a way to get anything at all back?04:16
SEJeffcheeby: I guess it would, but I don't know how to enable universe with kpackage04:17
cheebySEJeff, ok.  Just thought you'd know.04:17
fletch33all i really want to do at the moment is get my contacts and email form outlook to evolution04:17
AwaySwordand in my terminal i get the error : sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 13 05:00:34 200504:17
rawtekyes04:17
fletch33but i have been trying for 2 days04:17
cheebySEJeff, what is the text file to edit so as to enable 'universe' ?04:17
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rawtekfolks how do we unzip a windows executable04:17
intelikeybalfour if they were rm'd and things added after that probably not.04:17
SEJeffbluefoxicy: Most of your posts (lkml, ubuntu-devel) seem to be insane :-)04:17
jrsimsok, installed apache - now how do I start it?04:17
balfourintelikey: Nothing was added afterwards, it was just rm'd.04:17
SEJeffcheeby: /etc/apt/sources.list04:17
cheebySEJeff, cool.  thanks.04:17
fletch33i converted my eamil with thhunderbird but evo wont let me import it04:17
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rawtekcfa: see if you can find just the driver (not the exe04:18
cheebySEJeff, are you using wireless?04:18
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bluefoxicySEJeff: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32027904:18
intelikeybalfour then yes,  but as to how to i'll have to back out on that and say good luck.04:18
fletch33can u recommend some reading or a book or something so i can start to figure this out04:18
balfourintelikey: Um, thanks.04:18
bluefoxicySEJeff:  I'm of the persuasion that a GPG key should be the new identity.04:18
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intelikeynp04:19
AwaySwordso i need to sync my clock to my terminal clock right madpilot?04:19
SEJeffcheeby: I use wpa04:19
fletch33at least the basics i want to get away from windows and into this but i dont know where to star04:19
rawtekcfa; do you not have a disk that cam with the pc04:19
rawtekcame04:19
DShepherdfletch33: doc about ubuntu?04:19
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MadpilotAwaySword: no idea... the Adjust Time & Date thing should work for you. Do any sudo functions work? Synaptic?04:19
fletch33yeah if that is possible04:19
fletch33basic commands or how to get and install softwqare04:19
Madpilotfletch33: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation04:19
AwaySwordsudo gives error04:19
cfarawtek, i did the linux drivers, i will look for the other win drives, yes i have the CD04:20
DShepherdfletch33:http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html04:20
balfourCan anyone else tell me how to undelete a file under the Hoary Live CD?04:20
AwaySwordand synaptic won't start either04:20
MadpilotAwaySword: which error?04:20
AwaySwordsudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 13 05:00:34 200504:20
MadpilotAwaySword: and please start your posts w/ people's nicks - thanks...04:20
rawteki only know how to use ndiswrapper with windows drivers, that is what it was designed for04:20
SEJeffbluefoxicy: You should send in patches to do that. It would be very nice04:20
rawtekI have no experience with linux drivers04:20
fletch33i out 2 folders on my desktop and know they have a lock on them and ubu wont let me delete them04:20
AwaySwordok Madpilot04:21
fletch33sorry i dont type well opr really slow04:21
intelikeydid someone say sync clocks ?04:21
necatorWOOT ANJUTA WORKS JUST LIKE MY WINDOWS IDE!04:21
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AwaySword<--04:21
cfaSEJeff how did u get wpa to work, is you wireless builtin and what chip set r u using04:21
SEJeffrawtek: In linux, there aren't "drivers" per se. They are called modules and are generally shipped with the kernel04:21
balfournecator: That's the goal.04:21
AwaySwordintelikey, me04:21
rawtekthe cd may contain the .inf files you need04:21
Madpilotintelikey: AwaySword has some sort of clock problem04:21
intelikeyntpdate pool.ntp.org && hwclock --systohc04:21
balfournecator: many things ni Ubuntu are designed to look similiar to things in Windows.04:21
SEJeffcfa: It is a PITA. Google for wpa_supplicant. I am not going to help you set it up04:21
intelikeyAwaySword ^04:22
necatorbalfour i am basically trying to eliminate windows completelly.04:22
jrsimsquit04:22
balfournecator: I actually keep one Windows box around, just in case.04:22
balfournecator: But everything else is Linux.04:22
fletch33d how do i get rid of those floders04:22
necatorbalfour but i found gaming in linux is becomming a hassle so i might keep my win os around just to install some of my games when i get them in a few months.04:22
AwaySwordintelikey, 13 Nov 04:22:15 ntpdate[9182] : bind() fails: Permission denied04:22
rawtekso i guess you could modprobe the module if you kneew whichine04:22
rawtekone04:22
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balfournecator: That's a good idea.04:22
necatorbalfour but i been looking thru my windows and writing dow nthe stuff i use since i am new to linux.04:22
DShepherdbalfour: just in case iof wat?04:22
cfaSEJeff r u using breezy04:22
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necatorbalfour and am trying to find ways to do the same stuff in linux.04:22
SEJeffbluefoxicy: Did you mean PKE towards the end?04:22
intelikeysudo them AwaySword04:22
balfourDShepherd: Better safe then sorry.04:22
SEJeffcfa: dapper04:22
Lord2kHi. Is there any other method I could use to install Ubuntu besides burning it onto a cd? My burner is somewhere else and there is no possible way I can obtain it tonight.04:22
balfourDShepherd: For any reason at all, its still useful to keep a Windows box aroudn.04:23
rawtekhow is dapper working out for you04:23
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fletch33ok thanks dshepherd i am going to read be back later with stupid questions04:23
cfais that out04:23
necatorbalfour problem now is im reformating soon and not sure how much hdd space to give to windows.04:23
AwaySwordintelikey, sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 13 05:00:34 200504:23
DShepherdfletch33: yeah later04:23
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balfournecator: What version of Windows?04:23
necatorbalfour xp04:23
rawtekSEJeff; how is dapper working for you04:23
DShepherdbalfour: kool. I just wanted t know why04:23
balfourbluefoxicy: Give it 3 gigs for a core install.04:23
SEJeffrawtek: Nothing is broken yet except for ipod support. I really like it. Once x.org 7.0 is released in Dec and that gets put in dapper, it might be rough for a bit04:23
ohmannnnncould some1 say why "oskude" got banned ?04:24
balfourbluefoxicy: Sorry,that was stupid of me.04:24
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balfournecator: Give it 3.5 gigs for the core, another gig or 2 per game if they're really new games.04:24
intelikeylol AwaySword man idk.....      do this 'sudo bash '    and in that shell run the command 'ntpdate pool.ntp.org && hwclock --systohc'  it should work.....04:24
fletch33man i will trade something for someone to join me in any instant messenger for some personal training on a few things04:24
necatorbalfour if i reformat my windows do i have to redo the entire hard drive? like reconfigure linux also?04:24
cfarawtek BRB going to Atheros for the drives, i have the CD for the laptop, but it is at work04:24
SEJeffbluefoxicy: nvm. X.509 is really good04:24
fletch33like maybe an invite to www.oink.me.uk04:25
AwaySwordintelikey,  again04:25
Duveljaja04:25
intelikeyyeah04:25
balfournecator: No, if you reformat your windows "drive", as Windows sees it, only the windows partition is affected.04:25
gteppelI tried to follow the instructions in the Ubunutu FAQ Guide to add universe and multiverse sources to my sources.list. when i do a apt-get update it works fine except for this server: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse04:25
gteppel. What might be wrong???04:25
gteppelalso what is the difference between multiverse and universe04:25
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balfourWindows "drives" are actually just windows-formatted partitions.04:25
AwaySwordintelikey,  again same error04:25
rawtekjust change apt sources config file references to breezy to dapper and go for it, right SEJeff04:25
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necatorbalfour the windows install disc will only see the windows partion? and install to there only?04:25
SEJeffrawtek: That is correct04:25
DShepherdgteppel: mul04:25
balfournecator: Pretty much, but then it screws up the MBR.04:25
_native_paging Dr. watson greenthumb.04:25
necatorbalfour so either way my linux will be ruined then?04:25
balfournecator: No, there's ways to restore GRUB or LILO.04:26
intelikeyAwaySword i've never seen that error and i've had the system clock years off on this box....04:26
DShepherdgteppel: sorry mult--- that's right04:26
balfournecator: I'm just not sure of them.04:26
necatorbalfour maybe it will be healthy to reformat my linux too? even tho this was my first install ever of linux and its been pretty tuff setting everything up.04:26
SEJeffgteppel: multiverse contains software that is not open source or has legal issues in some countries (mp3, divx support, flash player, adobe acrobad reader, etc)04:26
AwaySword:(04:26
gteppelSEJeff: okay04:26
necatorbalfour so thats what i would have to do reinstall a boot loader?04:26
trincamckeecan someone help me here: ttp://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7766/multiplexfce0fa.jpg , i have to xfce session entriesm how can i delete one of them?04:26
necatorbalfour thats what windows would mess up?04:26
myrth_which package includes gtk-config?04:26
SEJeffgteppel: universe is just a ton of extra software that isn't officially supported, but still works fine 99.9% of the time04:26
balfournecator: Yeah, just install a bootloader, that's all that Windows would mess up.04:26
intelikeyAwaySword google the error04:26
AwaySwordintelikey,  :(04:26
balfournecator: Although I could be mistaken, it may want to wipe the drive.04:27
necatorbalfour would the breezy cd have that on there?04:27
bluefoxicySEJeff:  oh shit04:27
gteppelThe only multiverse server in my breezy install doesn't work... are there others?04:27
balfournecator: Yes, the Breezy CD would.04:27
bluefoxicySEJeff:  this samsung CLP-510 says it's linux compatible, but you actually have to install drivers for it o_o04:27
necatorbalfour would i have to reinstall breezy to be bale to use that bootloader or is it just a nice option waiting for such situations?04:27
intelikeysorry AwaySword, that's standard clock syncronization i gave you.04:27
balfournecator: I don't know.04:27
necatorbalfour if i deep freeze my windows theres no real need for anti virus and firewall and such there right?04:27
cheebySEJeff, are there any docs for setting up wireless on the ubuntulinux site?  I can't seem to find any.04:27
balfournecator: Firewall, you shuold defenitely keep.04:27
SEJeffbluefoxicy: bummer04:28
rawtekhas anyone has trouble with the backorts04:28
balfournecator: Antivirus isn't nearly as needed, there's one in APT in case you do.04:28
necatorbalfour since im probally only going to be using it for gaming.04:28
Madpilot!tell cheeby about wireless04:28
rawtekports04:28
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SEJeffcheeby: Search the wiki and forums. There are a ton of docs04:28
myrth_how do i search for package by the file it includes?04:28
balfournecator: If you're not gonna use the Internet at all on Windows, nope.04:28
bluefoxicySEJeff:  to make matters w orse, samsung's site goes to nowhere.04:28
Duvelanybody experience with bluetooth? want to use my se t610 to control for example xmms or bmp or whatever... it's possible in win...04:28
bluefoxicy The resource cannot be found.04:28
necatorbalfour well for online gaming ya.04:28
bluefoxicyDescription: HTTP 404. The resource you are looking for (or one of its dependencies) could have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. Please review the following URL and make sure that it is spelled correctly.04:28
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necatorbalfour but no web surfing most liekly not.04:28
foampeacehttp://www.trevorvanmeter.com/flyguy/04:28
SEJeffbluefoxicy: Awesome04:28
balfournecator: Oh god no, use A/V and firewall on Windows if you're using the Internet at all.04:28
bluefoxicySEJeff: http://www.samsung.com/Products/PrinterandMultifunction/ColorLaserPrinters/CLP_510XAA.asp  Do most of the images seem broken to you?04:28
ohmannnnnim VERY VERY sory that im a noob and used the bot too often wihtout "/msg", i learned my lesson and registered to beable to use "/msg". so please unban "oskude"...04:29
SEJeffbluefoxicy: Do you want me to tell you when that freeze issue with vSecurity is worked out so you can test it?04:29
necatorbalfour do i need a/v and firewall on linux?04:29
cheebySEJeff, ok.  the initial scan revealed nothing.  But, I am dealing with a toddler here.04:29
bluefoxicySEJeff:  more pertainently, does the 'drivers' link break?04:29
cheebyThanks.04:29
trincamckeecan someone help me here: ttp://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7766/multiplexfce0fa.jpg , i have to xfce session entriesm how can i delete one of them?04:29
bluefoxicySEJeff:  yeah, alright; but I have an uptime of 64 days now ;)04:29
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rawtekSEJeff; are the backports for breezy dwon04:29
ianAnybody have MythTV working on Breezy?04:29
balfournecator: a/v, not really, but its a good idea, firewall, absolutely.04:29
bluefoxicySEJeff:  I'll try it on my laptop04:29
rawtekdown04:29
balfournecator: Firestarter is a nice firewall.04:29
Duvel!botsnack04:29
ubotu:)04:30
balfournecator: !botsnack04:30
bluefoxicyoh god firestarter.04:30
balfourWoops.04:30
Duvellol04:30
balfour!botsnack04:30
kestasfirestarter isnt a firewall04:30
ianor even just TVTIME04:30
necatorbalfour is it preinstalled with ubuntu or is that something i do in apt?04:30
Duvel:d04:30
kestasit just configures other firewalls like iptables04:30
balfournecator: I take that back.04:30
bluefoxicybalfour:  if you use irc connection tracking, it'll break it :)04:30
balfournecator: HOWEVER.04:30
bluefoxicyerr.04:30
SEJeffrawtek: I already said I was on dapper. I don't use breezy on my main desktop, only my work laptop and I don't use backports on it so I don't know04:30
Duvel!botsnack04:30
ubotuthanks duvel :)04:30
balfournecator: rob.pectol.com has Ubuntu-firewall, which is a commandline utility.04:30
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necatorbalfour so ubuntu doesnt have firewall built in?04:30
balfournecator: It can also do internet connection sharing.04:30
rawtekSEJeff ; my fault forgot04:30
balfournecator: It does, but I'm not sure how to use it.04:31
Shadowpillarthe default ubuntu kernel is horribly broken04:31
Shadowpillarrequesting someone fix this04:31
SEJeffnecator: There are 0 ports open on default ubuntu04:31
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kinkoblastAre there any decent strategy games in the repos? (Example: Command and Conquer)04:31
ShadowpillarI sent the maintainer an email04:31
SEJeffShadowpillar: funny, works horribly well for me04:31
gteppelwhat are breezy backports? apt-get update crashes on this server-> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse04:31
Xenguynecator: shorewall is worth a look if you don't require a GUI04:31
balfourkinkoblast: craft is good.04:31
necatorxenguy i dont even know if i have a firewall or need to add one :p04:31
Madpilotkinkoblast: Battle for Wesnoth - not a RTS, but very good04:31
SEJeffnecator: Do you want a firewall for a desktop or server?04:31
ShadowpillarSEJeff: when you have a 400 mhz cpu, the lack of pre-empt support is noticeable04:31
Xenguynecator: you don't have a firewall by default...04:31
ShadowpillarSEJeff: as in applications lock up easily04:31
necatorsejeff im on a desktop.04:32
ShadowpillarSEJeff: and I cant use the GIMP04:32
AwaySwordintelikey, i found it :)04:32
ShadowpillarSEJeff: 100% cpu usage when drawing04:32
SEJeffnecator: apt-get install firestarter04:32
necatorwill i neeed anti virus and anti malware programs as well or just a firewall?04:32
Xenguynecator: adding one or not is your decision, and depends on your circumstances and needs really04:32
balfournecator: Just a firewall, but A/V is still a good idea if you're worried.04:32
SEJeffShadowpillar: gnome/gtk isn't that great on a 400MHZ04:32
necatorbalfour isnt it not likely that id get a virus on linux?04:32
ShadowpillarSEJeff: I know it's the lack of pre-empt because I ran it with the 2.6.10 kernel and it's fine04:32
SEJeffnecator: No, you don't need AV. This is linux.04:33
balfournecator: Its not likely, but its not impossible.04:33
bluefoxicyShadowpillar:  yeah.  There's exactly one application that breaks from a bug in 2.6.12 preempt.04:33
Xenguynecator: AV is nice, but optional on linux; malware isn't usually a problem, but rkhunter and chkrootkit are good to have running IMHO04:33
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balfournecator: Though if you're not absolutely paranoid, you don't need it.04:33
ShadowpillarSEJeff: well uh huh, yeah, but, like I said, it's the lack of pre-empt that is hurting my system04:34
necatortheres so much i have to learn in the linux word it feels like im starting all over as a computer user =(04:34
trincamckeei have two xfce session entries how can i delete one of them? http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7766/multiplexfce0fa.jpg , so that u can see waht im trying to say...04:34
necatori dont know where to go where to begin what to do next.04:34
balfournecator: That's part of the fun of it.04:34
Shadowpillarbluefoxicy: which is?04:34
SEJeffShadowpillar: Yes, that is odd why it is off. I just grepped /boot/config* and you are right04:34
bluefoxicyShadowpillar:  some optional network applet.04:34
kinkoblastSEJeff: Gnome is SLOW on anything below 500. XFCE is SO much better on older systems. (I like it better anyway, but that's me :-P)04:34
SEJeffShadowpillar, # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set04:34
kbrooksbbl bed04:34
necatorbalfour be nice if i could talk with some of u guys on aim finding people in here can be diffiuclt04:34
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balfournecator: Oh you bet.04:34
Fr0Gshow can i get quake3 to work on ubuntu?04:34
balfournecator: Ubuntu has very good user support, as you've seen.04:34
SEJeffkinkoblast: But thanks to geniuses like federico, mattias, behad, etc... gnome 2.14+ will be much faster04:34
bluefoxicySEJeff, Shadowpillar: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1190604:34
balfournecator: Much better than those 1-800 tech support numbers.04:34
necatorbalfour first time on linux all my research pointed me to ubuntu04:35
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bluefoxicySEJeff:  oh oh sweet, is 2.14 in beta?  :)04:35
balfournecator: And your research was right.04:35
ShadowpillarSEJeff: yep, I wonder if it's working in the 686 version04:35
necatorbalfour not to mention there was only 1 cd i had to download lol04:35
kinkoblastSEJeff: True. I'll still like XFCE better.04:35
necatorbalfour compared to the 2-3 cds the other distros were using.04:35
balfournecator: You could have gotten it for free in the mail.04:35
_native_tell frogs about quake304:35
_native_!tell frogs about quake304:35
ShadowpillarBlueEagle: so, because of some optional app, the whole system has to suffer instead of fixing that app?04:35
Shadowpillarer04:35
necatorbalfour i did get it for free.04:35
Shadowpillarbluefoxicy: so, because of some optional app, the whole system has to suffer instead of fixing that app?04:35
ohmannnnnany channel admins around ?04:35
necatorbalfour downloaded and burned within the same day04:35
SEJeffbluefoxicy: From my machine right now: gnome-panel                           2.13.1-0ubuntu104:35
_native_hum04:35
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balfournecator: Right.04:36
ianapt-get remove doesnt seem to totally remove an application, what should I be using to remove all traces of a specific application?04:36
necatorbalfour do you have aim ? hard to conversate here and feels wrong since its more of a tech support spot it seems.04:36
SEJeffkinkoblast: So does my little sister. Most of my workstations are openbox or gnome. It depends04:36
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ShadowpillarI have to rely on the standard kernel because I use the nvidia kernel module04:36
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balfournecator: Just type /msg theblue and then your message to me.04:36
SEJeffnecator: use /msg balfour04:36
Shadowpillaris it me or is each ubuntu release becoming more and more broken?04:36
balfourWoops.04:36
tryingsomethingsure why not04:36
SEJeffShadowpillar: It is you04:37
tryingsomethingim converting to kubuntu04:37
ohmannnnnubotu sucks :)04:37
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, ohmannnnn04:37
kinkoblastSEJeff: I agree. I know people who swear by KDE. I can't stand it. My REAL favorite is Aqua (Mac OS X) which is why I have Ubuntu on one moniter and 10.3.9 on the other :-)04:37
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tryingsomethinghehe04:37
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tryingsomethinghow can you get aqua on kde ?04:37
Fr0Gsi need help installing quake 304:37
tryingsomethingquake 3 is easy04:38
kinkoblasttryingsomething: You can't.04:38
tryingsomethingdo a search in google04:38
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ohmannnnni got screwed by ubotu, who can unban my user ? :)04:38
kinkoblast.zel04:38
tryingsomethinganyone use 6800 nvidia with ubuntu?04:39
tryingsomethingwhat driver do u use?04:39
tryingsomethingwhich rather04:39
LoneWolf071does anyone here use hydra? or can recommend any network logon crackers?04:39
tryingsomethingdo you download nvidia's and compile or use the one that came with ubuntu?04:39
feugan3333hi all. Anyone know what package contains the "termlib" library?04:39
tryingsomethingsearch synaptic04:39
tryingsomethingit will tell u04:39
ianAnyone have a Hauppauge PVR card working ith breezy...?04:39
SEJeffLoneWolf071: hydra is very good04:39
cfarawtek i have not found the drivers, just the linux ones. i need to run make and the kernelpath is not set right. do u know where the kernel is? do i need to install it if it is not in /usr/linux/src04:39
ohmannnnni got a miroPCTV working on breezy :)04:40
kinkoblast:-( Finder spoiled me, any other file manager doesn't feel right anymore.04:40
SEJeffcfa: /usr/src/linux04:40
ianohmannnnn, whats that exactly?04:40
cfaSEJeff it is not there04:40
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SEJeffkinkoblast: You need to look at beagle + deskbar. That will spoil you04:40
ohmannnnnian, i analog tv decoder04:40
LoneWolf071SEJeff, have you ever gottern the SSH cracker for it working?04:40
tryingsomethingfinder is da best04:41
ianohmannnnn, does it use the ivtv driver?04:41
blackhatWhats a good program from copying DVDs like DVDDecrypter (for linux)04:41
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DShepherdtryingsomething: I agree so far. Beagle has promis though04:41
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ohmannnnnian, dont think so, its like atleast 5years old card (bttv driver)04:41
tryingsomethinghmm beagle04:41
DShepherdpromise*04:41
tryingsomethingwill check out04:41
LoneWolf071blackhat, you use hydra or any network logon crackers?04:41
SEJefftryingsomething: Have you ever used deskbar with beagle integration?04:41
tryingsomethingwhat's best way to find it on google or is it on sourceforge?04:41
tryingsomethingno04:42
blackhatno04:42
SEJefftryingsomething: you are really missing out04:42
blackhatalso whats a good program to burn DVD and CD iso files.04:42
kinkoblastblackhat: VLC can do it in theory, but i never quite got it working (got sound, but not video. Probably would work if I chose something other than Theora.)04:42
DShepherdtryingsomething: google is your friend ;)04:42
tryingsomethingok im checking it out lol04:42
SEJefftryingsomething: sudo apt-get install deskbar04:42
ianohmannnnn, oh ok. thanks anyway.04:42
LoneWolf071SEJeff, have you ever gottern the SSH cracker for it working?04:42
ohmannnnnSeveas, are you there ?04:42
tryingsomethingok04:42
SEJeffLoneWolf071: I'm not going to talk about penetration testing on #ubuntu sorry04:42
tryingsomethingapt get ok04:42
tryingsomethingim booted into windows currently though04:42
bluefoxicySEJeff:  holy shit~04:43
tryingsomethingwill try soon though04:43
LoneWolf071ok, thanks04:43
bluefoxicySEJeff:  the 2.12 release notes apparently whisper that Gnome will be available for Windows in 2.1404:43
LoneWolf071SEJeff, can you point me to a room where i can get info?04:43
SEJeffLoneWolf071: Last time I gave a brief tutorial on wireless hacking and I had 50 people /msg me next time I logged in04:43
ianAny TvTime experts out there....?04:43
kinkoblasttrysomething: Uninstall it. If you are going to use a proppritary os, make it be! be is nice.04:43
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tryingsomethingoh beagle is that spotlight type app04:43
tryingsomethingcool04:43
bluefoxicySEJeff: "And now many more GNOME libraries, including ORBit2, libbonobo, libgnome, libbonoboui, libgnomeui and gnome-vfs, can build on Microsoft Windows, making it easier to build and distribute GNOME applications on that platform. While this support is not yet complete, it may be sufficient for some applications, and is expected to be complete in the next release of GTK+ and GNOME."04:43
tryingsomethingithink i heard of it04:43
ohmannnnn<<< got scruwed by a bot, lol :)04:43
SEJeffbluefoxicy: link blease04:43
bluefoxicySEJeff: http://gnome.org/start/2.12/notes/en/rndevelopers.html  At the bottom, read into it.04:43
DShepherdbluefoxicy: really kool!!04:43
Shadowpillarbluefoxicy: thus, might be possible for ubuntu over windows04:44
bluefoxicySEJeff:  they're saying that some gnome apps should be buildable on Windows now, but it's not complete; but that full Windows support for all gnome libraries should be ready in the next release.04:44
LoneWolf071SEJeff, can you point me to a room where i can get info?04:44
kinkoblastNow, id only they would get GTK working on OS X.04:44
cfaSEJeff in a standard install, is the kernel src not install, because it is not in /usr/linux/src04:44
bluefoxicySEJeff:  And full support for all gnome applications on windows.04:44
SEJeffbluefoxicy: But hal needs kernel support and thats what gives gnome the hardware "just works" coolness factor04:44
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ohmannnnn!abantest104:44
ubotuohmannnnn: Not a clue04:44
ohmannnnn!abantest204:44
ubotuohmannnnn: I haven't a clue04:44
Shadowpillarkinkoblast: I thought gtk was working on OSX already?04:44
ohmannnnn!abantest304:44
ubotuNo idea, ohmannnnn04:44
bluefoxicySEJeff:  This leads into gnome, being a gnome app itself, working on windows, ne?04:44
ohmannnnn!abantest504:44
ubotuohmannnnn: Are you smoking crack?04:45
ohmannnnn!abantest604:45
ubotuohmannnnn: Not a clue04:45
SEJeffLoneWolf071: www.packetstormsecurity.org. Do some reading and figure it out. hyrdra is easy to use04:45
bluefoxicySEJeff:  heh.  Gnome would probably have to re-hal for windows.  :P04:45
nickrudohmannnnn, you were banned by an op, not the bot04:45
kinkoblastShadowpiller: I never got it working. I never even got sdl working.04:45
LoneWolf071SEJeff, i know how to use it, but the SSh mod needs libSSh which is not really working, but TY for the help04:45
blackhatalso whats a good program to burn DVD and CD *.iso files.04:45
wickedpuppyk3b04:45
SEJeffbluefoxicy: gnome being a gtk "app" could possibly work on windows. But hal would likely suck for some time if ported to windows. It would need to be rewrote04:45
ohmannnnnnickrud, oh, you know by who, and why ?04:45
ianwickedpuppy, Singaporean?04:45
blackhatThats KED04:46
bluefoxicySEJeff:  yes, likely.  What exactly does HAL do, besides pop up a nautilus window when my USB drive is inserted :)04:46
kinkoblastUbotu is naughty. He thinks fuck is a good word.04:46
ubotukinkoblast: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!04:46
blackhatI use gnome I don't feel like installing 118mb to burn isos.04:46
blackhatwhats a good program that allows me to burn isos to dvd or cds and is gui04:46
cfarawtek u there04:46
durtblackhat: cdrecord04:46
ohmannnnnblackhat, gnomebaker04:46
ohmannnnn:)04:46
nickrudI happened to be skimming both then and now, bot abuse apparently was the reason, Seveas was the op.04:46
SEJeffbluefoxicy: gnome-volume-manager does that :)04:46
bluefoxicySEJeff:  my point is though, that's a really big hint that gnome for Windows is coming.04:46
dooglusblackhat: right-click the .iso file in nautilus and say 'burn iso' or some such04:47
SEJeffbluefoxicy: hal is what allows gnome-volume-manager to work. It is also what allows all of the hardware to integrate so well in gnome04:47
kinkoblastUbotu: if x=3 what is 2x^2?04:47
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ubotukinkoblast: what are you talking about?04:47
ianwickedpuppy, u there?04:47
kinkoblastubotu: Green people04:47
ubotukinkoblast: Are you on ritalin?04:47
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SEJeffbluefoxicy: Take a look at opensolaris, hal won't run on the solaris kernel. Gnome kind of sucks without hal04:47
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kinkoblast(i'm done now_04:47
ohmannnnnnickrud, how do you know i (oskude) was banned by op ?04:47
bluefoxicySEJeff:  all of the hardware being NIC, screen resolution, sound card and volume mixer, and uSB drives?04:48
dreumahhello anyone know a microsoft avi codec player?04:48
nickrudohmannnnn, you can look it up at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/04:48
kinkoblastdreuma: vlc04:48
kinkoblast!vlc04:48
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)04:48
ohmannnnnnickrud, checking04:48
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cfaSEJeff in a standard install, is the kernel src not install, because it is not in /usr/linux/src04:48
bluefoxicycfa:  /usr/src/linux, and no.04:48
SEJeffbluefoxicy: any removable media, hid devices like mice and wireless keyboards, usb anything, etc04:48
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ubuntuamrola, alguem aqui manja de parties para caralho, estou com um probleminha04:49
SEJeffcfa: I know that. Install the kernel-headers04:49
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ubuntuamrin english here ?04:49
kestasguys how can I make hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdb stick when I reset?04:49
bluefoxicySEJeff:  do you think we REALLY need better post-install hardware detection on the install side?04:49
SEJeffcfa: And like I pointed out, the correct directory is /usr/src/linux04:49
ubuntuamralgum brasileiro ?04:49
RedRoseafter upgrading to breezy from hoary, hplip was added to my users, and ports 1025-1026 were opened, why?04:49
cfaok thanx, can i add with Synap04:49
doogluskestas: you can run it from /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh04:49
kestasdooglus, thanks04:49
RedRoseand hpssh and hpiod are running04:49
balfour!tell balfour about quake304:49
SEJeffbluefoxicy: I think we need the idea that Microsoft wants for Vista about hardware04:50
cfayes. sorry i know04:50
kinkoblastubuntuamr: English please. None of us speak (Portugeese?)04:50
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dreumahhello anyone know a microsoft avi codec player?04:50
bluefoxicySEJeff:  Try this when you have a chance.  Get an nVidia card, and a radeon.  Install ubuntu with the nvidia card (don't worry about hardware accelerator, just install and let it use 'nv'), and then shutdown and swap to the radeon04:50
bluefoxicySEJeff:  When you boot back up, GDM fails to start.04:50
SEJeffbluefoxicy: Replace the motherboard and all of the components minus the harddrive, boot the system, and everything works perfectly04:50
RedRosewhat is hplips?04:50
kinkoblastdreumah: VLC! (sudo apt-get vlc)04:50
bluefoxicySEJeff:  I've done that!04:50
dreumahi tried vlc it doesnt work04:50
SEJeffbluefoxicy: I believe that.04:50
bluefoxicySEJeff:  It's been like that forever, minus the video card drivers changing.04:50
dooglusdreumah: pretty much any player with play .avi movies if you have the codecs04:51
bluefoxicydreumah:  use xine-ui04:51
tryingsomethingi hate ati04:51
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tryingsomethingati sucks04:51
dreumahtried that too04:51
tryingsomethingdont buy ati04:51
dreumahit seems to not work on any of the players04:51
dooglustryingsomething: what's wrong with ati?04:51
kestasdooglus, hdparm -k 1 /dev/dvd will make it keep the settings you set04:51
ohmannnnnnickrud, lol, a 2mb html, waiting for render...04:51
tryingsomethingthey dont support linux04:51
kinkoblastdreumah: It's probably DRMed then. Try Windows Media Player.04:51
doogluskestas: it will?  cool.04:51
ubuntuamrI need help with partitions. Any can help-me ?04:51
SEJeffbluefoxicy: hal would detect the new card. It would be up to a user space daemon to change the x.org configuration04:51
bluefoxicySEJeff:  which we don't have.04:52
SEJeffbluefoxicy: the infrastructure is in place, it's just very new and in rapid development04:52
dreumahhow do i do that in ubuntu?04:52
dooglustryingsomething: they do04:52
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SEJeffbluefoxicy: Why don't you write something :)04:52
kinkoblastdreumah: wine might work.04:52
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bluefoxicySEJeff:  because I don't fully understand the technical implications.04:52
kinkoblastany04:52
RedRosewhat is HPLIP/HPSSH/HPIOD and why after updating did they get installed on my PC?04:52
dooglustryingsomething: https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=300 is ati linux drivers04:52
SEJeffRedRose: For HP printers I believe04:52
dreumahi dont know how to use wine04:52
nickrudRedRose, they are hp specific, for the office jet & psc stuff04:52
wickedpuppydreumah, wine /path/to/exe.exe04:53
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RedRosebut why did they install on my machine? is there an apt log?04:53
RedRosemaybe i accidently installed it via apt04:53
SEJeffbluefoxicy: I got one of the ATI 9250 cards. EXA works really well so I get some luminosity wobbly windows style love04:53
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SEJeffRedRose: Likely a dep of something04:54
DShepherdSEJeff: what is EXA?04:54
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RedRoseyeah...04:54
kinkoblastKelkaj Esprantlingvo parolantoj?04:54
RedRoseso is there an apt log of download things?04:54
wickedpuppykinkoblast, english pls04:54
dooglusRedRose: /var/log/dpkg.log I think04:54
SEJeffRedRose: /var/log/dpkg.log04:54
SEJeffyep04:54
kinkoblastwickedpuppy: Any Esperanto speakers?04:55
wickedpuppy!es04:55
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:55
RedRosek04:55
dooglusthat's espanol, not esperanto :)04:55
Agrajagesperanto is eo04:55
wickedpuppyoh04:55
wickedpuppy!eo04:55
ubotuWish i knew, wickedpuppy04:55
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wickedpuppylol04:55
wickedpuppyi wish i know too ubotu04:56
dcarpenterk04:56
SEJeffDShepherd: http://www.freedesktop.org/~jonsmirl/graphics.html it makes things like xcompmgr more usable04:56
kinkoblastEsperanto is a supported install language. too.04:56
kinkoblast!esperanto04:56
ubotukinkoblast: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about04:56
cfahow do i add the linux src to /usr/src/linux04:56
ohmannnnnthis was the newest i found http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-2005-11-12.html and theres not mentioned why/how "oskude" got banned...04:56
Agrajagwhat about lojban04:56
DShepherdSEJeff: ok04:56
ubuntuamra have 5 partitions on my hd, but last weekend, had I instaled the win xp for my wife and my partitions are not visible now, when I try to install the kubuntu 5.10, simply show the partition windows on hda1, but I can mount the other partition exiting of the instalation and going to the terminal. What can I do ?04:56
nickrudohmannnnn, RedRose is gone (I need to stop talking where while I work, I can't keep up)04:56
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nickrudheh, oh, man ;(04:56
SEJeffcfa: sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers04:56
ohmannnnnnickrud, RedRose banned me ?04:57
nickrudnosilver4u, bad nick completion04:57
cfagreat thanx04:57
nickrudagain04:57
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nickrudohmannnnn, I guess #ubuntu is to fast for a current, I didn't check.04:58
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fletch33man i hat e to do this bit i really need some advoce on how to fix this and what it means04:58
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rob1grr04:58
fletch33W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:58
fletch33W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:58
Madpilot!tell fletch33 about paste04:58
fletch33W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:58
rob1fletch33, don't paste that here04:58
nickrudfletch33, one line would have been enough04:58
ohmannnnnnickrud, i just wonder how u know (oskude) was banned by op ?04:58
fletch33W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)04:58
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fletch33W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_di04:58
fletch33sorry04:58
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fletch33i know that was bad buit04:59
nickrudohmannnnn, I keep irc logs, since they're already out on the net.04:59
kinkoblast!esperanto04:59
fletch33sorry i didnt know what to do04:59
ubotuit has been said that esperanto is the international language. (Esperanto estas la lingva internacia)   More info at http://www.lernu.net04:59
necatorwhat is a file that ends in .o?04:59
fletch33i am really really sorry04:59
fletch33can u help04:59
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kinkoblastnecator: Object code.04:59
necatorkinkoblast is that like an executeable of my source then?04:59
fletch33i cant get breezy or the other stuff04:59
necatorfletch33 go into your reposties and turn off the ones that say backports on it.05:00
gerbmanfletch, you can paste stuff here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ and link to it05:00
ohmannnnn<<< is confused about pannig policy, didnt even get a warning...05:00
kinkoblastnecator: An intermediate step.05:00
fletch33ok how05:00
nickrudfletch33, there still must not be any breezy backports, comment them out05:00
ohmannnnn*panning = banning05:00
fletch33where05:00
necatorkinkoblast can u explain? im new to compiling and stuff on linux.05:00
nickrudfletch33, in /etc/apt/sources.list05:00
durtnecator: you want to make an executable with gcc?05:00
rob1ohmannnnn, its simple, do stupid things = ban05:00
Fr0Gswhere can i get the ubuntu fglrx drivers?05:01
necatordurt i dont know what gcc is and what do u mean executebale? like an exe? cuss they are already executeable im using ajuta.05:01
kinkoblastnecator: Join the club05:01
nickrudfletch33, put a ' # ' in front of the lines with breezy backports in them05:01
ohmannnnnrob1, i didnt do "stupid" things !05:01
necatorkinkoblast your new to linux also/05:01
necator?05:01
fletch33i am sorry i dont know what any of that ,eans05:01
tryingsomethingive tried a lot of linux disastros in my day05:01
necatorfletch33 open up synpaitc05:01
kinkoblastnecator: Pretty much. A month or so under my belt05:01
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fletch33k05:01
tryingsomethingprobably from since mandrake 7.2 up to suse 10 beta05:01
necatorkinkoblast me about a week05:01
necatorkinkoblast you program in c++?05:01
nickrudfletch33, start with sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:01
necatorfletch do u got it open?05:02
nickrudor, as necator says :)05:02
fletch33i opened package manger now what05:02
kinkoblastNecator: I barly program in BASIC.05:02
tryingsomethingand ubuntu has been the best ive tried so far minus - some parts have been easier on suse  like windows paritions were automatically mounted and linked05:02
fletch33what is sudo05:02
ohmannnnnrob1, i just (maybe) asked the bot too often without "/msg", but someone said i was not banned by a bot, i was banned by an op. and i would like to know why.05:02
necatorkinkoblast o i skipped basic and went right into c++05:02
gerbmanFr0gs: see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=42358405:02
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necatorfletch33 now go to settings > then repostiories05:02
fletch33i knok05:02
fletch33there05:02
nickrudfletch33, sudo is super user do, but, synaptic is better right now05:03
durtnecator: to make a binary, run "g++ whatever.cpp -o whatever"05:03
fletch33k05:03
necatorfletch33 scroll thru the list and UNCHECK the boxes that have the words backports in them.05:03
kinkoblastdurt: Unless it's a multi-file program. that's just fucjed up.05:03
fletch33k05:03
necatorfletch33 when u uncheck em all then you can close it.05:03
kinkoblast!fuck05:03
ubotufuck is, like, a wonderful, versatile word, that you should use as often as you can. http://www.fartfarm.com/FWORD32_.wav05:03
fletch331 sec05:03
nickrudubotu forget fuck05:03
ubotui forgot fuck, nickrud05:03
necatordurt i am using adjuta i think it makes them executeable already for me when i compile.05:03
myrth_how do i change fonts of gtk apps?05:03
necatordurt it is an ide.05:03
SEJefftryingsomething: Many of our desktops at work are suse 10. Ubuntu has 10x the amount of software SUSE does05:04
kinkoblastI didn't teach him that!05:04
fletch33ok unchecked05:04
SEJefftryingsomething: And ubuntu works better for me than SUSE does05:04
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ohmannnnncan someone see/tell why "oskude" was banned ?05:04
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durtnecator: yeah... i dont know how anjuta works - try geany05:04
necatordurt ive only had anjuta about 5 mins seems fine tho.05:05
SEJeffohmannnnn: probably because he was breaking the rules or acting stupid. can you quit asking why he was banned?05:05
nickrudfletch33, now click ok05:05
necatordurt only other ide ive ever used is blood shed devC++ under windows.05:05
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nickrudfletch33, then click reload05:05
fletch33k05:05
necatorfletch33 yup do what nickrud said.05:05
necatorfletch33 and that error should be gone.05:06
ohmannnnnSEJeff, lol, so i should quit cause of u assume something ?05:06
nickrudfletch33, you should be ok now05:06
dooglus02:30 < oskude> ubotu tell oskude about demoscene.tv05:06
dooglus02:31 -!- mode/#ubuntu [+b %oskude!*@*]  by Seveas05:06
necatordurt how long you been using linux?05:06
rob1ohmannnnn, you need to talk to Seveas when he is here05:06
SEJeffohmannnnn: No, asking the same question over and over again is a way to get banned05:06
fletch33now what05:06
fletch33k05:06
fletch33 i will try the download again05:06
nickrudfletch33, yes05:06
ohmannnnndooglus, does that mean im not allowed to tell ubotu anything, and get banned right away ?05:06
GigaClonohmannnnn, Seveas banned you ask them05:07
gteppelI just installed Breezy and have no sound!, i went to Volume Control and changed the sound device from my mobo to my SB Live 5.1 but I still don't have sound. Any ideas??05:07
durtnecator, ive used bloodshed too and geany is somewhat similar, and a couple months05:07
rob1ohmannnnn, I would say for spamming05:08
necatordurt did you have bloodshed running under linux or is that y now u have geany for linux? how long have u been programming in c++? or programming in general?05:08
rob1ohmannnnn, as it is your breaking the rules just by avoiding the ban05:08
doogluslooks like you were banned for playing with the bot.  I don't know the rules.  but:05:09
dooglus!botabuse05:09
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.05:09
ohmannnnnwell, i was spamming max 3lines, and i saw someone spamming 5lines before and he dodnt get banned05:09
ohmannnnn!botabuse05:09
durtnecator, i dont do c++, just random stuff in c - but you can use whatever ide/editor you want05:09
nickrudohmannnnn, ubotu is for keeping factoids about ubuntu, not trivial things on the net.05:09
SEJeffohmannnnn: And not marketing05:10
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durt!start a jihad05:10
ubotudurt: Did you get hit by a windmill?05:10
necatordurt well im new to linux just trying to bring my stuff over from windows into the linux world so im trying to find equivelants to what i use on win.05:10
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ohmannnnnhmm, i just told ubotu about demoscene.tv and then tried (3times) to open that directly to me with !tell... and still, NOONE said me i got banned...05:11
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durtnecator, well then try geany and scite05:11
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Lord2kWhat should my partition be? Ext2 or Ext3?05:12
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b1n0ryit worked, installed fine, runs fine, now i just have to learn to use it05:12
SEJeffohmannnnn: Why do you care that someone got banned for spamming ubotu? was it you on a different ip05:12
praxhola05:12
praxbuenas noches05:12
durthasta la vista05:12
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necatordurt is there something bad with adjuta? or are geany and scite just better?05:12
praxhola durt05:12
praxdurt?05:13
durtno speakee espanol05:13
praxno?05:13
ohmannnnnSEJeff, no it was me with my main userid, that i registered after someone said i should use /msg to talk with ubotu..05:13
crimsunLord2k: ext3 will suit you better unless you have a strictly defined reason for wanting ext205:13
echostormhi im having a problem with ubuntu install. no matter what screen resolution i pick when install hits the gnome portion (loading) of ubuntu I get a garbled sceen of whites and pink ascii charactors. Im running a evga geforce 6200 256mb gfx card with a sempron 3100+ palmero core05:13
nickrudSEJeff, he got the gentle ban, only by name05:13
cmcnamarhey...05:13
cmcnamari just installed realplayer and am playing mp3's05:14
praxhola sala,05:14
cmcnamarthanks to everyone who helped me.05:14
praxesta es mi primera vez en esta sala05:14
praxde hecho, estoy probando un cd05:14
praxde ubuntu05:14
echostormmy cd is an official release btw so i know its not a corruption issue05:14
nickruda man who likes to be legal :)05:14
durtscite and geany are nice and quick and simple05:14
Lord2kAlright, thanks crimsun. I don't really have a reason, I'm just doing the partition manually since my burner is not available at the moment.05:14
ohmannnnnim just pissed off that i got banned (like automaticly) and it wasnt even the bot that banned me, he/she could atleas give a reaseon/warning...05:14
durt!es05:15
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:15
DShepherdohmannnnn: neva mind that man...your still loved.....hopefully :)05:15
SEJeffohmannnnn: Well you should take that up with an op05:15
DShepherdohmannnnn: so you got a question about ubuntu?:)05:15
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nickrudlol05:16
echostormcan anyone help with this issue or point me in the right direction? i see nothing on the forums concerning this05:16
ohmannnnnactually i was here to help other ubuntu noobs...05:16
DShepherdohmannnnn: or would you like to go to #ubuntu-offtopic and talk about chess :)05:16
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prax#ubuntu-es05:16
DShepherdohmannnnn: kool so are all of us also...KOOL! :)05:16
praxhey ubotu.05:16
praxcomo le hago?05:17
ohmannnnnand i still dont know where to look why and who banned "oskude"...05:17
SEJeffprax: /j #ubuntu-es05:17
fletch33yo nectar05:17
dooglusohmannnnn: I showed you.  It was Seveas05:17
nickruddooglus 02:30 < oskude> ubotu tell oskude about demoscene.tv05:17
nickruddooglus 02:31 -!- mode/#ubuntu [+b %oskude!*@*]  by Seveas05:17
ohmannnnnis Seveas a bot ?05:17
SEJeffohmannnnn: no05:17
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Madpilotohmannnnn: ping Seveas, ask him how you earned the ban, and stop whining about it...05:18
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ohmannnnnor i just forget my support efforts for ubuntu and leave ur all alone...05:18
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nickrudohmannnnn, Seveas teaches geeks, and get over it. He didn't kick your ip, just your nick05:19
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gpledhas anyone had trouble with printers under ubuntu?05:19
dooglusohmannnnn: I got banned from #mandrake a while back.  I left them to it as a matter of principal and came here instead.05:19
nickrudgpled, lol, oh yeah05:19
durtim banned from #slackware05:19
ohmannnnnnickrud, didnt see Seveas teach me before banning :)05:19
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nickrudI'm done05:20
nelsonOh, great, #ubuntu attracts people who have been banned elsewhere.05:20
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nickrudyeah, but they behave here cuz it's so much better05:20
gteppelhas anybody had trouble getting their SB Live 5.1 working with breezy? I can't see to find any help on the forums05:20
nickrudgpled, what kind of printer problems?05:21
SEJeffohmannnnn: Have you tried talking to an op when they are around?05:21
gplednickrud: hp laserjet 5L.  used to work.  works on windows.  but not on my new ubuntu :(05:21
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slewhow do i get ubuntu to show me its uptime?05:22
ohmannnnnSEJeff, well, after my (oskude) there has be no op online...05:22
crimsunohmannnnn: it's very simple. Don't talk about anything vaguely related to warez, even if it's not clear it's not warez or otherwise.05:22
ohmannnnncrimsun, warez ?! how do you come to that i talked about warez ?05:22
gpledslew:  uptime05:22
nelsonnickrud: hehe.05:22
slewheh figured05:22
Madpilotohmannnnn: there are several ops here - they're just not op'd in...05:22
nelsonMadpilot: that's what we do over on #handhelds.org.  Stealth ops.  You have to be polite to everyone.  Works a charm.05:23
echostormnobody has an idea on this install problem? damn I really wanted to run ubuntu :(05:23
nickrudgpled, I'm hoping someone else knows the answer :)05:23
Madpilotactually, Seveas is...05:23
crimsunohmannnnn: 'scene' is a common string for it. Even if whoever banned you doesn't know the particular circumstances about what the demos really are, it's suspicious enough.05:23
tryingsomethingdoes the soundbloweruper xifi work on ubuntu?05:23
Madpilotnelson: I think Freenode encourages stealth oping - other channels to it too05:24
crimsunohmannnnn: in other words, it's best to be explicit about it05:24
ohmannnnnlol, demoscene = warez ?! OMG05:24
nickrudand here I thought it was the egalitarian attitude :)05:24
crimsunohmannnnn: I didn't say it is warez, because I'm familiar with it. However, whoever banned you might not be.05:24
SEJeffohmannnnn: rules are rules, play by them or not05:24
DShepherdTHE END05:24
ohmannnnnwhere do i get the rules of this room ?05:25
Madpilot!conduct05:25
nickrud!conduct05:25
ubotuconduct is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view05:25
Madpilotohmannnnn: there ^^^05:25
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ohmannnnndidnt found "scene" there...05:25
rob1ohmannnnn, no one cares05:25
dnBcan someone remind me how to restart a program using inet.d?05:25
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ohmannnnnyeah, right05:25
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dnB:P05:26
nelsondnB: it's program-dependent.05:26
MagicFabdnB: /etc/init.d/xxxxxxxx start05:26
nelsondnB: but generally you can say /etc/init.d/foobar stop05:26
thrice`restart05:26
gpleddnB: which program?05:26
nelsondnB: followed by start.05:26
dnBthanks guys05:26
dnBall i needed to know05:26
SEJeffnelson: no, he said inet.d. That is xinetd05:26
dnB:)05:26
nelsondnB: some init.d scripts let you say "restart"05:26
dnBill try restart, otherwise stop start05:26
ohmannnnnand how do i now remove my "demoscene" addition form "ubotu" ?05:27
crimsunohmannnnn: the ban was due to a misinformed string. Can we get beyond that?05:27
gplednickrud: are you having printer trouble too?05:27
nelsonSEJeff: er ... um ... uh, yeah!05:27
ohmannnnni just want "oskude" get "unbanned"05:27
nickrudgpled, yeah, pdf's freeze my printer, and I have problems with landscape/portrait in openoffice05:27
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Madpilotohmannnnn: your ubotu factiod seems to already be gone05:27
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nickruda cheap hp psc05:28
ohmannnnnMadpilot, roger05:28
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SEJeffnelson, nevermind, I'm thinking of rhel05:28
dnBthanks guys05:28
dnBperfect05:28
dnB<305:28
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ohmannnnnMadpilot, btw. it was "demoscene.tv"05:28
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ohmannnnnthnx crimsun :)05:28
nelsonSEJeff: *is* there such a thing as inet.d??  /me confesses that his Ubuntu box is not up right now.05:28
Madpilotohmannnnn: it's gone. /msg ubotu list to see what it knows05:29
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oskudehello world :)05:29
MagicFaboskude: hey05:29
oskudethnx crimsun !05:29
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oskudewas my ban because of "demoscene.tv" or too much use of "ubotu" ?05:30
SEJeffnelson: If you have xinetd installed, /etc/xinetd.d is a valid directory containing xinetd scripts for services like ntp05:30
nickrudnelson, no, inet.d doesn't exist05:30
SEJeffnelson: I was wrong05:30
Madpilotoskude: "/msg ubotu list" to see what it knows, btw...05:30
praxhola, hola,05:30
praxalguien que me pueda orientar?05:31
nelsonAhhhh, yes, Fedora uses xinetd and it has /etc/xinetd.d.05:31
oskudeMadpilot, thnx05:31
ianIf I rebuild my Breezy box with a TV tuner card installed will the installation process automatically detect and cofigure the card? Or will I still have to manually install the drivers when the build completes?05:31
crimsunian: just insert the card, power the machine back up, and use it.05:31
trappistsort of depends on the card05:32
nelsonian: i'm sure that's the goal.  Whether it works or not is probably dependent upon which board it is.05:32
praxhey crimsun05:32
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iancrimsun: if only it was that easy...05:32
SEJeff!info vsecurity05:32
trappistif it's a bttv chipset it should work fine05:32
trappistif it's a newer ivtv it'll take some work05:32
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crimsunian: sure, which is why there is a bug reporting facility if it isn't05:32
icemanI need help changing my Video card from the onboard to a add on card ...05:32
oskudeim still interested on WHY i got banned...05:32
praxtoc, toc, toc, hay alguien en casa?05:32
rob1oskude, let it o05:33
nelsonWWJD? JWRTFM!      http://www.nancybuttons.com/catalog.cgi?o_custom=&o_selected=&ids=03710&chk3710=1&action=Button%20Baggie     Ya gotta love Nancy's Buttons.05:33
rob1s/o/go05:33
crimsunoskude: for the last time, he probably confused the string "scene" with that -other- scene.05:33
iancrimsun, is it a  bug if it doesnt work?05:33
SEJeffoskude: Well you are not any more. PLEASE stop whining abou tit05:33
trappistcrimsun: if (for example) it's an ivtv card, it's not a matter of bugs.  there are licensing issues with the required firmware.05:33
crimsunian: it can be05:33
iancrimsun, hmm.05:33
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icemanAnyone able to help me change primary video cpntrollers in ubuntu05:33
drcodehi all05:34
durtwatch the language there SEJeff ;)05:34
drcodesorry for asking again05:34
iantrappist, You have any experience with IVTV05:34
crimsuntrappist: sure. That doesn't preclude filing a bug. We'll just close it with pertinent info attached if necessary.05:34
trappistyeah05:34
drcodewhere I can find upgrade info from hoary to breezy05:34
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crimsundrcode: see the topic05:34
nickrudnelson, that's one I want to read :)05:34
iantrappist, What PVR card do you have?05:34
trappistcrimsun: my point is not every card will work out of the box or will EVER work out of the box, through no fault of the developers05:34
trappistian: 25005:35
praxcrimsun, sabes de una sala hispana?05:35
SEJeffprax: /j #ubuntu-es05:35
icemanDang it, Ubuntu has me stuck at 640x480 resolution .... on the onboard card ...05:35
crimsuntrappist: I'm well aware of that, though you seem to have misunderstood my original response, which was (paraphrased) "Just try it".05:35
iantrappist, You have MythTV up and running or just TvTime?05:35
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nelsonnickrud: Nancy has some excellent sysadmin-related buttons.  It's WAY too easy to buy several dozen.05:35
praxgracias. pero esta mas sola que mi alma05:35
praxotra?05:35
crimsunprax: no05:35
trappistcrimsun: I guess I did.  my bad :)05:35
oskudei was advised to apologize (freenode), i did apologize for "abusing" ubotu, and who apologizes at me :) (yeah, i DONT have any rights here..)05:36
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trappistian: I don't use it anymore, but I did have mythtv running05:36
pretzelwhat do you think is the best partioning structure for a 40GB harddrive with both Win XP and Ubuntu?05:36
fletch33just wondering there are a way to many apps available on synaptic when u choose all is there any way to know what the cool ones are or can or should u pick them all05:36
pretzel*partitioning05:36
trappistpretzel: depends which you use more and for what05:36
Madpilotoskude: would you please just drop it?05:36
iantrappist, Im struggling with the IVTV setup...05:36
pretzeltrappist, I'm a newbie05:36
nelsonpretzel: 0% for Windows and 100% for Ubuntu?  :-)05:36
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trappistpretzel: but keep in mind linux can read and write fat32 and windows can't touch linux partitions05:36
pretzellol, I can't go cold turkey05:36
icemanwheres the x11.conf file located05:36
pretzeltrappist, I realize that05:36
trappistian: yeah it's not very straightforward05:36
oskudeMadpilot, not until some1 apologize at me :)05:36
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iantrappist, the forums are full of HowTo05:37
iantrappist, but they are all adifferent and none work for me.05:37
Madpilotoskude: or until you get yourself banned again for spamming the channel?05:37
nelsonnickrud: You are in the presence of a system administrator.....KNEEL     http://www.nancybuttons.com/catalog.cgi?o_custom=&o_selected=&ids=02902&chk2902=1&action=Button%20Baggie05:37
nickrudIf it doesn't work, change the documentation <---05:37
oskudeMabus06, lol05:37
nelsonhehe.05:37
axisysanyone know of a live radio and a good app to use to listen to it?05:37
bob832asked this question earlier, was wondering if anyone had any thoughts. . . .how can i change the keyboard volume buttons from changing master to PCM?05:37
trappistian: where are you stuck?  I don't remember all the details of the process but we might get lucky05:37
pretzelshould I have a seperate partition for linux?05:37
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nelsonI don't flirt with death. She runs up and sticks her tongue in my ear.05:37
iantrappist, Firmware05:38
icemanhow do i reconfigure my video from a onboard nvidia to a Installed nvidia ?05:38
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trappistpretzel: you need to have a separate partition for linux.  just leave it blank and the installer will deal with it.05:38
fletch33anybody have any help for picking what packages i should choose in synaptic05:38
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fletch33there are 1000's05:38
pretzelwhat min partition size do I need for it?05:38
Amaranthfletch33: for what?05:38
nickrudbob832, you'll probably need to disable the stuff in metacity, and use some other means: hotkeys, or the equiv05:38
fletch33ii dont know the cool 1's to get05:38
trappistian: debian has an unofficial repository with packaged firmware.  not sure if ubuntu does, but the debian package will work.05:39
nelsoniceman: you mean the boot video?05:39
Amaranthiceman: disable the onboard one in your bios05:39
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fletch33where do i start05:39
nelsoniceman: your BIOS ought to say "Gee, he put in a video card.  Maybe I'm supposed to use it."05:39
icemanAmaranth no bios setting i looked dang emachine05:39
axisyswhat is a good app to listen to live radio?05:39
Amaranthfletch33: generally you have an idea of something you want first05:39
trappistaxisys: xmms05:39
Amaranthiceman: i'd hope it was smart enough to autodisable05:39
nelsoniceman: but then again, I can't STOP my BIOS from doing that, so when I put in a video card, I end up with only one usable video card.05:39
SEJeffaxisys: rhythmbox05:40
trappistaxisys: or mplayer05:40
nickrudfletch33, try apt-cache search <keywords> , things that might interest you05:40
oskudeaxisys, and look in www.shoutcast.com05:40
bob832nickrud: i did change the volume controls in the task bar to change PCM but the keys still change master05:40
fletch33amatanth how do i highlight my comment and add your name in this xcaht05:40
axisysoskude: can i use xmms to listen to shoutcast?05:40
oskudeaxisys, yes05:40
nickrudfletch33, steamtuner, oskude made me think of that05:40
fletch33like how u just responded to me05:40
nelsonAmaranth: actually, I think that's the wrong behavior.  I'd prefer to be able to use both onboard and video cards, and set one or the other as primary.05:40
icemannelson ubuntu see's both, but pipes to the onboard05:40
pretzelIs it okay if I set it up this way: 5GB for windows, 5GB for linux, and the other 30 for data storage?05:40
icemanwhere the x11 configuration file05:40
trappistfletch33: any line with your nick in it gets hilighted05:40
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SEJefffletch33: If someone says your name, it highlights it05:40
oskudeyes, streamtuner/streamripper is a good all-in-one thing05:40
nelsoniceman: is X not setting you up with two X screens?05:41
nelsoniceman: it *ought* to give you two screens.  It really ought to.  It should, anyway.05:41
nickrudbob832, it's at a lower level than that, I think. I did it for a different distro a while back, I haven't got around to setting it up again.05:41
fletch33how do i quicly say your name do i have to type it out05:41
nelsonfletch33: type a few letters and hit tab.05:41
icemannelson one x starts on the onboard... nothing on the second screen05:41
fletch33ne thnkas05:41
icemanplug in and blank05:41
fletch33it didnt work ther05:41
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fletch33nelson, ooh got it05:42
nickrudfletch33, just type a few characters like 'nick' and hit the tab key, you can cycle through some names.05:42
axisysi am going to give vlc a try05:42
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nelsoniceman: is the monitor getting a signal?  Does it automagically turn itself on?05:42
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axisysmy firefox automatically detected that for shoutcast05:42
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fletch33ok so i didnt see it in a different color did u05:42
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nelsoniceman: because it it's turning itself on, then the video card is actually working, it's just displaying all black.05:42
SourcerorI want to print something in Linux.  I've plugged the printer into my motherboard, and it's powered.  So what else do I do?05:42
trappistfletch33: your irc client does the hilighting, not the server.  it's to let you know someone's talking to you.05:43
icemanIf i plug in to the installed card i get a vid signal, no screen display05:43
Amaranthfletch33: When I say your name it shows in a different color for just you. It's the same if someone says my name.05:43
fletch33or does just nelson see05:43
fletch33that is cool05:43
Amaranthfletch33: It's to make it easier for you to follow who is talking to you in a large channel (like this one).05:43
fletch33thanks05:43
pavelichanyone here familiar with eclipse05:43
nelsonfletch33: any colors you're seeing are entirely in your irc client.05:43
fletch33big time very nice05:43
ilba7rany one know if toshiba qosmio (25 us /20 the rest of the world) have good support or not on ubuntu05:43
oskudeSourceror, what port (usb, parallel) is your printer using ?05:43
Amaranthfletch33: So if you're talking to someone here it's usually a good idea to put they name in front of the line like I'm doing here. Otherwise they might miss it.05:43
fletch33i am usind xchat is that the best to use on ubu05:43
nelsonfletch33: what's nice?  tab completion??  Yes, tab completion is teh rock.05:43
Amarantherr, their name05:44
fletch33k thanks05:44
Amaranthxchat is the best GUI irc client05:44
SourcerorIt's a big one.  Parallel?05:44
pavelichanyone here familiar with ECLIPSE and creating c++ project, or what binary parsers are05:44
Amarantherr, i broke my own rule05:44
DShepherdgaim is nice too05:44
Amaranthpavelich: Nope, sorry.05:44
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fletch33nelson, yeah it helps to know u r talking ot me that is sweet05:44
bob832nickrud: oh ok05:44
AmaranthDShepherd: It's too general.05:44
DShepherdAmaranth: general is good05:44
nelsonAnimal testing is a terrible idea--they get all nervous and give the wrong answers05:44
icemandamit how to change video controlers05:45
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fletch33nelson, ha!05:45
bnDcan anyone help me out with how to "iptables-save > /etc/sysconfig/iptables05:45
bnD" in ubuntu? trying to save iptables configuration05:45
fletch33nelson,  ooh yeah im in the game now05:45
trappistbnD: that's all there is to it05:45
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nelsonfletch33: yep, there ya go.  Try tab completion of filenames in the shell as well.05:46
nickrudbob832, yeah, it sucks here too05:46
trappistbnD: well, you'll need sudo05:46
bnDtrappist, didnt work05:46
bnDperhaps wrong location for iptables05:46
fletch33nelson,  what is that05:46
SEJeffbnD: /etc/sysconfig is a redhat directory05:46
bob832nickrud:  i was looking through some of the files in /proc/asound but had no luck05:46
bnDSEJeff, ah ok05:46
bnD;)05:46
nelsonfletch33: command line.  "In The Beginning, There Was The Command Line."05:46
trappistbnD: you can put it anywhere you like (that exists) as long as you restore from the same place05:46
fletch33nelson,  what i sthe shell05:46
DShepherdfletch33: gaim is good too...with guificattions.........it rocks!!!05:46
bnDanyone know where iptables is located?05:46
praxsomebody speak spanish?05:46
trappistbnD: `which iptables`05:47
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bnDtrappist, ?05:47
nickrudbob832, ask again later, there are people here who know sound backwards and forwards05:47
trappistbnD: run that command05:47
nelsonfletch33: when you run System Tools/Terminal, you get a shell.05:47
bnDah, thanks05:47
fletch33nelson,  ooh i have that and use it for my instant messenger so i should us ethat for this 205:47
bob832nickrud: alright, thanks05:47
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bnDwpw05:47
bnDwpw05:47
nelsonprax: no hablo espaol.05:47
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bnDwow* sorry05:47
bnDpermission denied05:47
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bnDwith sudo05:47
bnD?05:47
trappistbnD: sudo05:47
fletch33nelson, i havent gotten that far yet05:47
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bnDtrappist, brandon@edubuntu:~$ sudo iptables-save > /sbin/iptables05:48
bnDbash: /sbin/iptables: Permission denied05:48
bnDbrandon@edubuntu:~$05:48
fletch33nelson, lol05:48
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icemanAnything i can do to set the second video card to work05:48
trappistbnD: don't do that!  you're trying to overwrite iptables itself.  put it somewhere else, like maybe root's home directory or /etc or something05:48
nelsonfletch33: there's a world of pleasure at the command line.  Much power available to you.05:48
bnDtrappist05:48
bnDhow do i save the configuration?05:49
nelsonfletch33: the trouble with the command line is that you have to remember what you want to do.05:49
praxnelson: do you know some chat to spanish?05:49
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fletch33nelson,  i just started to use this 2 dayz ago and this is my first try at linux and to be honest i am very  very frustrated05:49
trappistbnD: iptables-save > /etc/myrules for example05:49
bnDok05:49
bnDand would that autoload?05:49
nelsonprax: yo tengo nunca palabras.05:49
zoexiihello, how does one remove configuration of eth0 from the startup script?  I use wireless, and it holds things up.05:49
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SEJeffprax: join the #ubuntu-es channel. with /j #ubuntu-es05:49
trappistbnD: no, you'd have to iptables-restore < /etc/myrules05:49
bnDso theres no way05:49
bnDto permanently save a configuration and have it used?05:50
TodFlanderszoexii do you ever want to use wht0?05:50
fletch33nelson,  i know windows inside and out i i feel like i am touching a compyetr for the first time05:50
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trappistbnD: unless you have an iptables init script, in which case check it out to see where it tries to restore from05:50
zoexiiTodFlanders, no, not so much,05:50
bnDah05:50
bnDthanks ;)05:50
trappistbnD: try /etc/init.d/iptables save active05:50
nelsonfletch33: ahhhh, I see.   Hmmm...  I've been using the Unix command line for uh, about twenty years now, so I don't know where to tell you to start.05:50
oskudefletch33, :)05:50
SEJefffletch33: You know what microsoft lets you know of windows. You really can learn linux inside and out05:50
TodFlandersok, open /etc/network/interfaces file as sudo in gedit05:50
thrice`nelson: 20 years?05:50
DShepherdfletch33: I felt the same way...linux and windows are different sometimes, depending waht you are doing..the learning curve can be steep05:51
zoexiiTodFlanders, it is possible that I might need to use it someday, but it would be quite an exception to normal use,05:51
TodFlanderszoexii, their should be something that says etho0 auto intet or similar05:51
bnDtrappist, it autoruns, however it isnt in init.d05:51
bnDany thoughts?05:51
fletch33i understand that i really didnt know anything i just new how to get it to work not why05:51
nelsonthrice`: yep, I actually started in 1982, but had a three year hiatus after that.05:51
icemanc r  a  p    damit how to reconfigure video05:51
trappistbnD: what autoruns?05:51
bnDiptable05:51
bnDits running upon boot05:51
oskudeif you started with dos (like i) linux will be a dream :)05:51
bnDhowever its not under /init.d05:51
zoexiiTodFlanders, right, but I do not know where the startup script is kept, or what it is called,05:51
fletch33now i really dont know anyhting05:51
cafuego_and stay away from /etc/sysconfig if you're not using redhat05:51
bnDoskude, my mom feels the same way05:51
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DShepherdfletch33: LInux = HUmans are the thinkers..not computers ;)05:51
trappistbnD: honestly I'm not on my ubuntu box atm so I'm not sure where else to look05:51
nelsonthrice`: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:hp-cvd!russ&start=10&hl=en&rnum=11&selm=bnews.hp-pcd.80605:51
bnDwell trappist, thank you ;)05:52
fletch33word!05:52
oskudebnD, my mom uses still windoze, gotta make those install ubuntu video tutorials :)05:52
TodFlanderszoexii, if you put a # infront of the eth0 auto i think it skips it on boot05:52
SEJeffoskude: agreed. I started with dos05:52
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SEJeffoskude: dosshell is the best gui M$ has ever designed05:52
fletch33i could stop using windows if i could just get my contacts and emails from outlook into ubu05:52
oskudeSEJeff, yeah :)05:52
zoexiiTodFlanders, yes, but in what file?  I do not know what it is I must modify,05:52
fletch33i am stuck and have been working on it for 2 days05:53
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fletch33i need them for work05:53
nelsonfletch33: indeed.05:53
thrice`nelson: which distro?05:53
nickrudSEJeff, lol05:53
TodFlanderszoexii, sorry you may have missed above but that should be possibe from /etc/network/interfaces05:53
thrice`well, I guess linux wasn't aroudn yet05:53
oskudeSEJeff, i wonder how OSX user react seeing a text-console for the first time :)05:53
fletch33it is the only hting holding me back from a complete switch05:53
trappistfletch33: when I first started in linux I didn't have internet access and I spent two months getting my sound card to work.  once I discovered irc and google things started going a lot smoother.05:53
zoexiiTodFlanders, right on,05:53
nelsonthrice`: what?  What distro was I using back in 1982??05:53
SEJeffoskude: yes, that would be entertaining05:53
cyphasewhy can't i compile a mono app that uses Gtk# in ubuntu?05:53
thrice`nelson: yes; but I meant variant, as distros weren't around yet05:54
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fletch33well i am getting frustrated with this email and contact thiing05:54
TodFlanderszoexii, that interfaces file executes on boot i believe so just comment out the eth0 and it should just load your wireless05:54
SEJeffcyphase: because you need to install mcs and the libraries probably05:54
icemanGod dam linux and the hard configurations .... how to get better resolution05:54
thrice`cyphase: what's the error?05:54
oskudecyphase, i love to compile, what are you compiling, url ?05:54
fletch33i ahve way way way too many to do it by hand05:54
fletch33i even thought about it05:54
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cyphasehello world.cs(1) error CS0246: The namespace `Gtk' can not be found (missing assembly reference?)05:54
cyphase    Try using -pkg:gtk-sharp05:54
cyphasehello world.cs(2) error CS0246: The namespace `GtkSharp' can not be found (missing assembly reference?)05:54
cyphase    Try using -pkg:gtk-sharp05:54
cyphaseCompilation failed: 2 error(s), 0 warnings05:54
cyphaseoops05:54
trappisticeman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:54
cyphasei thought that was only 2 lines05:55
fletch33but then i realizionrd i would have to take a 2 week vacat05:55
nelsonthrice`: lemme see, it was an old HP 68000 box.  Probably bsd4.205:55
thrice`cyphase: you have gtksharp installed?05:55
cyphasei think so05:55
cyphasei checked in synaptic, and i have..05:55
fletch33ooh by the way i type 2 ways slow and sloppy and ssssllllloooowwww05:55
thrice`cyphase: that's the first thing you should be looking for05:55
oskudecyphase, when you compile things, you mostly need xxxx-dev packages05:55
nelsonthrice`: but then in 1985 I started using a sysv/bsd bastardization, with all the incompatibilities of both.  A Gould.  We called it the ghoul.05:55
zoexiiTodFlanders, got it, thanks.05:55
cyphasei have libgtk-cil installed05:55
SourcerorHow do I print with Ubuntu?05:55
thrice`nelson: interesting05:56
cyphaseah05:56
cyphaseright05:56
nelsonSourceror: that's a difficult question to answer.  That's why you didn't get an answer earlier.05:56
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TodFlanderszoexii, no problem, hope that works, just remember for future if you ever try to use it :)05:56
SourcerorUh huh.05:56
oskudeSourceror, fisrt, whats your printer ? and how its connected to pc ?05:56
cyphaseah..05:56
cyphasei found it05:56
cyphasei was looking under l, for lib05:57
Sourceroroskude, it's a Lexmark laser printer... it's connected by a parallel port cable.05:57
cyphaseit's called gtk-sharp, and gtk-sharp205:57
bnDdoes anyone know how to correctly save iptables configuration?05:57
thrice`is anythign in backports yet?05:57
oskudeSourceror, what lexmark exactly ?05:57
cyphasei want gtk-sharp2, right?05:58
cyphase:)05:58
SourcerorIt's labeled Z22.  I think it prints by laser.05:58
oskudeSourceror, sec...05:58
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thrice`cyphase: looks like it05:59
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oskudeSourceror, try here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19470&highlight=lexmark+z35+printer06:01
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fletch33does anyone have any idea why evolution wont let me choose file type when i go to import for my email if i could figure this out i could get my email imported06:01
myrth_how do i enable power wlan card?06:01
myrth_i mean power to wlan card?06:01
fletch33i can not even choose automatic like it says i can06:01
DShepherdfletch33: try thunderbird....that may work06:01
SEJefffletch33: Maybe you should try thunderbird. I prefer it over evo06:01
durtmyrth_ you might need ndiswrapper - ask google06:02
fletch33thunderbird only imports 1 type and it is not the 1 need06:02
myrth_but it has wireless configuration in kubuntu06:02
SourcerorIt is possible that if I restart my computer it will detect my printer?06:02
myrth_i need to install some more?06:02
oskudeSourceror, you could try06:02
fletch33i have read that it will import my emails which i transferd in windows thru mozilla mail06:02
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SEJefffletch33: Well I have something you might like06:02
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fletch33ok06:03
fletch33what06:03
SourcerorOK what's a common script that would detect a printer and how do I make it run now?06:03
SEJefffletch33: This company does windows --> Linux migrations. They open sourced the linux part of their client06:03
SEJefffletch33: http://openmoveover.sf.net06:03
oskudeSourceror, dunno, sry06:03
josh__does anyone know how to serve games with ubuntu?06:03
tritiumSourceror, sudo invoke-rc.d restart cupsys06:03
fletch33have u used it i read about it06:03
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oskudejosh__, server games ? you need the game server for that06:03
tritiumSourceror, then check to see if you can add a new printer, and if it's automatically detected when you try to add it06:03
oskude*-r06:03
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fletch33SEJeff,  do u know it works and of so what version06:04
josh__the game server being what?06:04
oskudejosh__, server version of the game you want to serve...06:04
josh__oh, do you have any ideas of where i can download that if possible?06:04
SourcerorThanks tritium, but it failed.  Thanks for the tutorial oskude06:04
oskudejosh__, which game ?06:04
josh__call of duty united offensive06:05
MrFartswhere are sudo groups defined ?06:05
oskudejosh__, sec...06:05
josh__ok06:05
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tritiumSourceror, you restarted cups and then tried to add?06:05
SourcerorNo I just copy-pasted what you typed.06:05
tritiumSourceror, then you didn't do as I suggested06:06
MrFartsanyone ?06:06
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SourcerorI have an Add a Printer dialogue up, and it didn't have anything in its list.06:07
oskudejosh__, do you have the small or large version form here http://www.callofduty.com/uopatch/ (bottom of screen)06:07
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myrth_durt: even if it says that ath0 is UP ?06:07
bob832another sound related question - checking out audacity but it says i have no playback or recording device?06:07
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josh__hold on ...06:08
hit3kCan someone help me with my network problem I cant see windows machines and i have samba installed06:08
tritiumSourceror, is this after restarting cups?  Was your printer plugged in and turned on before you restarted it?06:08
oskudejosh__, i would suggest using the "large" version...06:08
Sourcerortritium, I need to take a break.  THanks for your help.06:09
oskudejosh__, and as it is an "binary" release, i think you just have to unpack it and run a command...06:09
josh__alright so i put it on say my desktop and unpack it and run it?06:09
oskudejosh__, could be somthenign so easy :)06:10
josh__lol06:10
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superbeasthow do i get my audigy 2zs working with ubuntu06:10
josh__alright i'll do that, if that doesn't work i'll come back, thanks for the help.06:10
oskudejosh__, just read the readme file in the package, should be easy06:11
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josh__alright thanks06:11
oskudejosh__, np, your welcome06:11
superbeastanyone?06:12
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jorgeuhi06:13
oskudetritium, ? what are you trying to say through ubotu =06:13
OrbordeWhat package would I want to get for a unix-to-dos plain text conversion (you know, a util that converts the line breaks and whatnot)?06:13
tritiumOrborde, sysutils06:14
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tritiumit has the tofromdos tools06:14
oskudetritium, ok, got it "your welcome" "youre welcome" or "you're welcome" :)06:14
tritiumoskude, oh, ok06:14
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Orbordetritium: Thanks06:15
oskudetritium, nitpicker :)06:15
jorgeui'm having problems trying to install ubuntu 5.04. If i create a swap partition, then all task freeze. Even the live cd freeze trying to create user, i think that the swap it creates is broken. Any idea? know problem?06:15
tritiumoskude, :)06:15
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hit3kCan someone help me with my network problem I cant see windows machines and i have samba installed06:15
tritiumjorgeu, might I suggest you install 5.10 instead?06:15
oskudetritium, but (really) thanks for the info, didnt notice it (that it should be "youre" not "your")06:16
jorgeutritium, i request for free CDs and they sent me the 5.04 version06:16
tritiumjorgeu, are you able to download 5.10?06:16
jorgeutritium, recently06:16
jorgeutritium, no06:17
tritiumokay, jorgeu06:17
jorgeutritium, that's why i depend on free ship06:17
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tritiumjorgeu, all right06:17
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hit3kCan someone help me with my network problem I cant see windows machines and i have samba installed06:18
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oskudehit3k, i think with samba windows should see youm not you should see windows...06:19
rob1hit3k, try http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-samba-server06:19
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LaptopSwordhello :)06:20
hit3kHow do I see windows machines then?06:20
LaptopSwordsomebody know a good dvd playing thingy?06:20
rob1LaptopSword, xine, totem06:20
freddyhello, im having a difficulty with gnome-bittorrent, i cant find a place to change the port it uses, do you guys know how to change it? thanks.06:20
LaptopSwordok thx rob106:20
rob1freddy, you have to do it on the command line, see man gnome-bittorrent for more info06:20
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LaptopSwordand do u know how to get those windows codecs like mpeg and avi and shit?06:21
rob1LaptopSword, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-music-and-movies06:21
oskude!tell LaptopSword about w32codecs06:21
LaptopSword:P06:21
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EdLinLaptopSword, I like ogle; if one is just playing DVDs.06:22
LaptopSwordwell ogle doesn't work here for some reason maybe i should reboot my system?06:22
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EdLinLaptopSword, rebooting seldom solves problems in Linux, that's a more Windows approach. :)06:23
LaptopSword:P06:23
ICE9is anyone running glftpd on ubuntu ?06:23
LaptopSwordwell i haven't tried rebooting since i installed some programs06:23
LaptopSwordso gtg do that bbl06:23
EdLinLaptopSword, installing programs is a lot less dangerous to your system's stability in Linux too.06:24
LaptopSwordwell anyways brb ;)06:24
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superbeasthow do i install wine?06:26
rain`Should I avoid usb headphones wshen using linux? Does their being usb mean they have to install some kind of driver when you plug them in? Does this work with linux/ubuntu?06:26
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jorgeusuperbeast, did you try $sudo apt-get install wine ?06:27
oskudesuperbeast, sudo apt-get install wine :) (sry havent never used wine)06:27
superbeastyeah06:27
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superbeastmichael@mike:~$ sudo apt-get install wine Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.06:27
superbeastThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or06:27
superbeastis only available from another source06:27
superbeastE: Package wine has no installation candidate06:27
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sfChrisJacobHey all, I am haveing some problems getting dual head configured... RightOf and LeftOf keywoeds seem to have no effect... The screens are on the wrong sides, and short og physicly moving them, does anyone have any ideas?06:28
oskudesuperbeast, could be that wine is in "universe" or "multiverse"06:28
jorgeusuperbeast, do yo have uncommented the universe repos in /etc/apt/sources.list ?06:28
superbeastremove the #?06:28
jorgeusubterrific,  yes06:29
intelikeycan anyone tell me what kind of line to add to xorg.conf to adjust the mouse speed ?06:29
MrFarts where exactly can i get the ms core fonts package for ubuntu ?06:29
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oskudeMrFarts, isnt MS copyrighted...06:29
rain`sfChrisJacob: Are they both external monitors?06:29
Amaranth!info msttcorefonts06:29
MrFartsoskude, the fonts are freely distributed06:29
nelsonoskude: the ms core fonts are free as in beer.06:29
ubotumsttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB06:29
intelikeyi'm looking at the mouse portion but there is nothing about sensitivity  ?06:30
mustard5intelikey, you on gnome?06:30
oskudeok06:30
MadpilotMrFarts: they're in Ubuntu's Multiverse06:30
intelikeymustard5 no flux06:30
mustard5k06:30
MrFartsMadpilot, i tried enabling it in the repository config06:30
AmaranthMrFarts: install that06:30
MrFartsmaddler, no go06:30
sfChrisJacobrain`, yes06:30
jorgeuMrFarts, go to a Windows machine, copy in some media all the .ttf you need and back to the linux box and paste them in a shared font folder06:30
Amaranth!repos06:30
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MadpilotMrFarts: Multiverse & the mscore fonts work here...06:31
Amaranthjorgeu: Not legal.06:31
MrFartsPackage msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package.06:31
MrFartsThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or06:31
MrFartsis only available from another source06:31
Amaranthfscking bot06:31
zack_hey guys, anyone use WINE frequently?06:31
Amaranth!tell MrFarts about repos06:31
MrFartsi have no idea what that means06:31
MrFartswhat in the world does that error mean06:31
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zack_hey guys, anyone use WINE frequently?06:31
AmaranthMrFarts: yeah, you need to enable the multiverse repository, look at what ubotu just PMed you06:31
MrFartsit seems that debian is still as beligerently unfriendly as ever06:31
MrFartsAmaranth, i wish the errors were a bit less preposterous06:32
Amaranthzack_: Please don't repeat yourself.06:32
MrFartswhat in the world does "referred to by another package" mean06:32
rain`sfChrisJacob: what kind of connections on your computer? vga/vga, vga/dvi,dvi/dvi  (doesnt matter what monitors are)06:32
AmaranthMrFarts: Well, it can't read minds...06:32
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zack_yessir06:32
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AmaranthMrFarts: I don't see how that error message can say anything different and still actually make sense.06:32
MrFartsAmaranth, i did enable the multiverse repository06:33
sfChrisJacobrain`, Two VGA from a GeForce FX 520006:33
zack_hey guys, anyone use WINE frequently?06:33
oskudeMrFarts, use "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources" and add "multiverse" after the line "...main restricted" in there06:33
intelikeyive got 4 options corepointer device protocol and emulate3button ,     there is a string that can make it less sensitive isn't there ?06:33
AmaranthMrFarts: and ran sudo apt-get update? (or clicked reload in synaptic)06:33
tritiumsfChrisJacob, you're using TwinView?06:33
superbeastwhat is the command to update i forgot?06:33
EdLinMrFarts, you probably need the universe repository too06:33
hit3kHow do i view Windows computers in the Networks folder?06:33
superbeastsudo apt something06:33
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oskudeMrFarts, did you do "apt-get update" after adding ?06:33
superbeastlol06:33
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Amaranthzack_: ...06:33
sfChrisJacobrain`,  No, I don't beleive so...06:33
MrFartsoskude, yes06:33
oskude* "sudo apt-get update"06:33
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rain`sfChrisJacob: Are you currently using two device sections in your xorg.conf?06:34
zack_amaranth ...06:34
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Amaranthzack_: If someone does they will answer, you don't have to repeat it once a minute. You'd have to tell us what problem you're having with it.06:34
tritiumsfChrisJacob, if you have an nVidia card, you should be using TwinView for dual head06:34
zack_how do you expect to get a question answered if you can only ask it once, and then no one answers it06:34
sfChrisJacobrain`, No... just one Device section06:34
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tritiumsfChrisJacob, see the docs in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx06:34
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ICE9trying to copy the /usr/lib to glftpd/lib but I get a permission denied even when I sudo it06:34
intelikeysuperbeast sudo apt-get update06:34
oskudeMrFarts, well, i could install that "msttcorefonts" and i have universe and multivers in apt sources...06:34
zack_im not having a problem with it, im asking if anyone uses it06:34
AmaranthChanServ owned Seveas :P06:34
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MrFartsoskude, no go06:35
sfChrisJacobtritium, Thanks for the tip... I will check it out06:35
rain`tritium: TwinView is nice in some cases, but for me I prefer dual head06:35
ICE9anyone06:35
oskudeMrFarts, hmm... somethings wrong on your side..06:35
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tritiumrain`, twinview provides dual head06:35
{{corona}}hi is there a way to do a fsck on the etx2 filesystem without mount?06:35
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Amaranthzack_: I toy with it from time to time and read the devel mailing list.06:35
Kman^I uh.. have a problem running make files (I think)06:35
MrFartsoskude, honestly this is very dissappointing06:35
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rain`tritium: I mean the dual xserver method, sometimes that way is better06:36
MrFartsseems that debian hasn't been able to solve its problems in 6 years06:36
MrFartspathetic06:36
MrFartsthe installer is still shit too06:36
SteveYeah!!! got my ATI Drivers working!06:36
sfChrisJacobtritium, I have both working.. they are just on the wrong sides.... RightOf and LeftOf don't seem to change anything06:36
zack_i heard it is unstable, your opinion?06:36
AmaranthMrFarts: Language.06:36
{{corona}}ICE9: how you copying it?06:36
MrFartsAmaranth, what about it ?06:36
crimsun{{corona}}: do you mean on next boot or on next mount?06:36
oskudeMrFarts, could you post the line containing universe and multiverse in sources.list ?06:36
EdLinMrFarts, if you still have a Windows partition, you can copy Windows's *.ttf fonts to a ~/.fonts directory and they will Just Work (and look better than the old corefonts)06:36
MrFartsdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted multiverse06:37
MrFartsdeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted multiverse06:37
AmaranthMrFarts: Please don't swear.06:37
MrFartsEdLin, what do you mean "still have"06:37
MrFartsi never had one06:37
{{corona}}crimsun: my root is corrupted and i want to run fsck, tried using system rescue but wont mount it06:37
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EdLinMrFarts, OK, then never mind.06:37
oskudeMrFarts, wrong, NOT in security...06:37
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AmaranthMrFarts: That's breezy-security, you need to edit the line that says for just breezy06:38
intelikey{{corona}} you don't fsck a mounted partition06:38
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{{corona}}oh yes i forgot06:38
oskudeMrFarts, like this: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted universe multiverse06:38
MrFartsok06:38
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rain`sfChrisJacob: A great website about both non-twinview and twinview is here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors#Nvidia06:38
crimsun{{corona}}: boot to a live/install cd and e2fsck -Cf the partition06:38
{{corona}}but then how do i run fsck on say ext2-fs06:38
Kman^Could somebody help me install xvid codecs?06:38
Aven: apt-get is an unknown command06:38
MrFartsok, now it works06:38
MrFartsthanks06:38
oskudeMrFarts, and dont forget "sudo apt-get update" after modifyoing..06:38
EdLinMrFarts, though occasionally the -security universe repository gets security fixes so you might want to leave that.06:39
AvenI keep receiving that error06:39
Aven: apt-get is an unknown command06:39
ICE9if I'm getting permission denied what can I do06:39
ICE9trying to copy something06:39
MrFartsoskude, already did that06:39
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AvenICE9: use sudo06:39
ICE9sudo does not work06:39
intelikey{{corona}} you run it on the device-node   'sudo e2fsck /dev/hd?#06:39
ICE9what else06:39
Stevedoes anyone know of a player better than amaroK?06:39
Xer0_h4xICE9, run sudo -s06:39
Avenit should06:39
ICE9chmod + x does not work06:39
Xer0_h4xthen run it06:39
oskudeMrFarts, and do you now get it ?06:39
ICE9what does -s do06:39
{{corona}}crimsun: intelikey: how do i run it on device-node?06:39
Xer0_h4xICE9, try it06:40
Xer0_h4xits like using su06:40
Avensudo -s would work, probably06:40
Xer0_h4x(like other linuxs)06:40
mtupperhey all, anybody help me get my sound to work on an HP Pavilion dv1000 laptop...   It worked fine after ubuntu install, then I installed KDE desktop and now no sound...06:40
rain`Should I avoid usb headphones wshen using linux? Does their being usb mean they have to install some kind of driver when you plug them in? Does this work with linux/ubuntu?06:40
Xer0_h4xsudo -s06:40
Xer0_h4xthen the commands06:40
wickedpuppyAven, what you typed to get that apt-get error ?06:40
Aveneverytime I type 'su' I always get 'wrong password'06:40
intelikey{{corona}} you run it on the device-node   'sudo e2fsck /dev/hd?# '  <---- like that but where the ? is the letter and the # is the partition number06:40
ICE9cp: cannot create regular file `/glftpd/bin/ldconfig': Permission denied06:40
Avenwickedpuppy: it was a joke sorry, hehe :P06:40
MrFartsoskude, yes, it's installed06:41
sfChrisJacobrain`, Thanks for the site... I'll check it ouy06:41
ICE9this is what I get06:41
oskudeMrFarts, niceone06:41
ICE9any clue06:41
MrFartsdo i need to do anything with the font server in order to have everything work properly ?06:41
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sfChrisJacobs/ouy/out06:41
wickedpuppyICE9, what you typed ?06:41
crimsunMrFarts: by default Ubuntu doesn't use a font server.06:41
oskudeMrFarts, after installing the package you should be able to use the fonts right-away...06:41
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{{corona}}intelikey: ok so i dont have a ubuntu live cd  but i do have a linx system rescue live cd06:41
intelikey{{corona}} you can use 'sudo fdisk -l ' to view partition types on your system.06:41
MrFartsoskude, thanks06:41
ICE9sudo -s  cp /usr/lib/* /glftpd/lib;  cp /sbin/ldconfig /glftpd/bin06:41
MrFartsi06:42
Xer0_h4xICE9, no no06:42
MrFartsi'm not quite sure i see the wisdom is using sudo like this btw ...06:42
wickedpuppyICE9, i strongly suggest you man sudo06:42
Xer0_h4xICE9, sudo -s (the put in your password) then when it has a # at the end do cp /usr/lib/* /glftpd/lib;  cp /sbin/ldconfig /glftpd/bin06:42
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intelikey{{corona}} if it is linux, it should be the same commands.   you may not need the 'sudo' part though.06:43
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{{corona}}intelikey:ok thanks will try06:43
{{corona}}crimsun: thanks06:43
superbeasthow do i get a audigy 2 zs to work in ubuntu06:43
sfChrisJacobrain`, duh... I am using twinview.... came across that in a sample on Google... Everything is perfect short of the left is on the right and the right is on the left.... Any ideas?06:43
oskudehow do i set my user as AFK/Away in here ?06:44
wickedpuppysuperbeast, call creative ... incidently .. i am in singapore , hq of creative06:44
crimsunsuperbeast: should work by default. Paste the output from ''cat /proc/asound/cards'' and ''amixer'' onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:44
ICE9thx I got it06:44
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helpmeplzhello06:44
ICE9sudo always screws me up06:44
helpmeplzI am trying to get Kdevelop up and running06:44
ICE9used to using root06:44
helpmeplzon my ubuntu system06:44
helpmeplzI can get everything going06:44
wickedpuppyhelpmeplz, sudo apt-get install kdevelop06:44
intelikeysokude  /nick blah06:44
helpmeplzI did that06:44
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helpmeplzI have it06:44
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helpmeplzbut part of it keeps crashing06:44
Xer0_h4xICE9, yeah was a change from slackware :P06:44
helpmeplzKdevelop Designer keeps crashing whenever I open it06:45
helpmeplzthe rest of the Kdevelop suite works fine06:45
wickedpuppyhelpmeplz, for that pls email to kdevelop mailing list .. i doubt here has kdevelop devs06:45
helpmeplzbut the designer will never open06:45
helpmeplzok06:45
helpmeplzI will bug #kdevelop06:45
wickedpuppypls do06:45
intelikeyanyone know xorg.conf ?    looking for mouse speed control line ?06:46
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superbeastok got it working06:46
superbeastthe problem was with nvidea onboard sound06:46
Madpilotintelikey: try System menu - Prefs - Mouse06:46
mtupperanybody help me get my sound to work on an HP Pavilion dv1000 laptop?   It worked fine after ubuntu install, then I installed KDE desktop and now no sound...06:47
rain`sfChrisJacob: try "CRT-0 LeftOf CRT-1" or the other way around "CRT-1 LeftOf CRT-0"06:47
durtintelikey: option "MaxSpeed" or option "AccelFactor" perhaps06:47
rain`sfChrisJacob: dont worry if they are LCDs, vga ports are always marked as CRT06:48
intelikeyk durt thanks,  it seems i have nuked 'man'  but i will fix that later.06:48
superbeastfor 1024x768 i can only do 61 hz how do i change that to my monitors max (116hz)06:48
durthow the hell'd you do that intelikey?06:49
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intelikeyremoving things to make room for x durt06:50
MrFartspeter@sweetcheeks:~$ sudo apt-get install gcc-4.0-base libgcc106:50
MrFartsReading package lists... Done06:50
MrFartsBuilding dependency tree... Done06:50
MrFartsgcc-4.0-base is already the newest version.06:50
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MrFartsthat in the world does that mean ?06:50
durtsuperbeast, you'd have to edit VertRefresh in xorg.conf under section "monitor" - but be careful, you monitor might explode or something06:50
MrFartsi don't have gcc installed06:50
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superbeasthmmm06:50
durtapparently you do mrfarts06:50
MrFartsdurt: no i dont06:51
wickedpuppyMrFarts, you sure you got no gcc ? type gcc and press tab06:51
AmaranthMrFarts: You have the base installed though.06:51
MrFartswickedpuppy, i do not have gcc06:51
sfChrisJacobrain`, That goes in the server layout section right? Does it need an "Option" before it?06:51
durtyes you do06:51
MrFartsdurt: wanna bet ?06:51
GeckoHello, I wondered if there is a possibility to make a net-based install of ubuntu. I am currently in china, and do not have the major international bandwidth06:51
superbeastdurt, i want to get 100hz like i do in windows what would the setting be?06:51
wickedpuppylol06:51
AmaranthMrFarts: Install the build-essential package.06:51
bunglelinux drivers are a biatch to install now06:51
bunglenvidia*06:51
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intelikeyMrFarts 'dpkg -la | grep gcc '06:51
durtsuperbeast: VertRefresh 10006:51
MrFartsi just installed it06:51
AngryPunkis there a way to remove openoffice 2.0 ?06:51
MrFartsapt-get gcc06:52
MrFartser apt-get install gcc06:52
bunglethe old 2 seprate packages were fine06:52
durtbungle: apt-get nvidia-glx06:52
MrFartsapparently gcc-base doesn't include gcc06:52
MrFarts*scratches head*06:52
superbeastdurt, do i have to mess with horz to not mess my monitor up?06:52
bungleapt-get isntall06:52
AngryPunkid rather use the 1.x series06:52
bunglepfff I can't spell to day06:52
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durtsuperbeast: i dont know, you'll have to look that up06:53
MrFartsAmaranth, of course it doesn't actually work ...06:53
intelikeyMrFarts build-essential06:53
superbeastk06:53
MrFartsintelikey, what is build-essential ?06:53
intelikeywhat you want06:53
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rain`essential build stuff06:53
rain`haha06:53
wickedpuppy!build-essential06:53
ubotuwickedpuppy: Syntax error in line 106:53
MrFartsintelikey, why isn't a want in the gcc package ?06:54
wickedpuppyah no bot entry06:54
rain`!buildessential06:54
uboturain`: Bugger all, i dunno06:54
AmaranthMrFarts: Exactly what it sounds like, the essential stuff for building things.06:54
Amaranth!be06:54
ubotusudo apt-get install build-essential06:54
durtapt-get install gcc-4.006:54
Amaranththat's...useless :P06:54
MrFartsAmaranth, why would i want the compiler by itself ?06:54
durtso you can compile stuff06:54
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AmaranthMrFarts: err, build-essential installs more than the compiler06:55
Amaranth!info build-essential06:55
ubotubuild-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB06:55
MrFartsdurt, you can't actually do anything useful without a linker06:55
intelikeygause some things depend on gcc-base but the dev's didn't feel like putting all the compiler on the cd MrFarts06:55
wickedpuppyMrFarts, wait .. why you want gcc in the first place ? i am curious06:55
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EdLinMrFarts, "apt-cache show build-essential" or running apt-get will reveal that it's a meta package that downloads much more than just the compiler.06:55
intelikeyok good night everybody.06:55
AmaranthMrFarts: If you want the low-level details build-essential contains all of the packages you can assume are already installed on a buildd (server to build packages for the distro)06:56
sfChrisJacobrain`, Thanks.... I got it fixed.... In the device section I added  Option "TwinViewOrientation" "DFP-0 LeftOf DFP-1"06:56
sfChrisJacobgoing to restart my main x session now.... So again thanks for the help...06:56
freddyif i install a debian package with dpkg -i foo.deb...how can i go about uninstalling a deb package?06:56
wickedpuppyfreddy, man dpkg06:57
GeckoIs it possible to use a debian net-install cd to install ubuntu?06:57
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EdLinfreddy, apt-get remove06:57
EdLinGecko, no06:57
freddywickedpuppy, no such document :(06:57
freddyi tried it06:57
EdLinGecko, mixing Debian and Ubuntu repositories will cause breakage.06:57
wickedpuppyno such man dpkg ?06:57
wickedpuppyyou sure ?06:58
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freddyfreddy@lappy:~$ man dpkg06:58
freddyNo manual entry for dpkg06:58
freddySee 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available.06:58
MrFartswickedpuppy, because i'm a software developer06:58
MrFartsi'm perverted like that06:58
oskudefreddy, try "dpkg -r" or "dpkg --remove"06:58
wickedpuppyMrFarts, then get build-essential06:58
GeckoEdLin: Well, if you don't add any debian repositories during install and run it from the ubuntu repositories, it should work, right?06:58
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EdLinGecko, no06:58
mtupperanybody help me get my sound to work?  It worked fine after ubuntu install, then I installed KDE desktop and now no sound...   ANYBODY?06:58
GeckoEdLin: Why?06:58
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EdLinGecko, the base system is different too.06:58
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wickedpuppyfunny ... how can there be no man dpkg on ya system ??? it should be default on ubuntu06:59
MrFartsbuild-essential seems to have done the trick06:59
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MrFartsthanks06:59
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GeckoEdLin: I see... Well, as a few people have reporting to succesfully upgrading from sid or even sarge to ubuntu, I guess I could upgrade using a very minimal base install?06:59
EdLinGecko, I wouldn't recommend it.07:00
GeckoEdLin: It seems to be my only possibility to get ubuntu right now...07:00
MrFartswhat does the "server" install include btw ?07:00
EdLinGecko, why?07:00
helpmeplzhow does one create a symbolic link07:00
MrFartsand is there a way of making automated installs with ubuntu ?07:00
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wickedpuppyhelpmeplz, ln ... and man ln for more info07:01
EdLinhelpmeplz, ln -s07:01
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helpmeplzthanks07:01
GeckoEdLin: I don't have an internet connection that can bear the download of the cd, and the only linux I could buy around here was fedora core 2...07:01
freddydamn i dont know how to remove it07:01
GeckoEdLin: the shipIt cd's haven't arrived either07:01
Grugedlin - lol now *that* brings back the memories :)07:01
EdLinGecko, shipit.ubuntu.com. It's how I got my Ubuntu. :-)07:02
GeckoEdLin: I know, I already ordered from there07:02
EdLinGecko, big rewards for those who wait. ;-)07:02
MrFartsEdLin, don't you have broadband ?07:02
GeckoEdLin :)07:02
EdLinMrFarts, no broadband07:02
MrFartsEdLin, poor deprived child07:02
MrFartsi downloaded ubuntu in 20 minutes :)07:02
EdLinGecko, actually, if you're willing to download a bit over a day, you can download just the single install iso over the net. I did that for Hoary.07:03
helpmeplzOH HAIL YEAH07:03
helpmeplzthat got Kdevelop workings07:03
oskudefreddy, "dpkg -r <package name>" wont work ?07:03
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gwark256kn took a few hours07:03
wickedpuppyoskude, any error ?07:03
gwarkbut worth it07:03
durthuh? heil hitler?07:03
oskudewickedpuppy, wrong user u ask ? :)07:03
wickedpuppyoh i thought you saying that command doesn't work07:04
wickedpuppylol07:04
helpmeplzsilly apt did not create a symbolic link between Kdevelop and Kdevelop307:04
oskude:)07:04
helpmeplzthat is what caused the crash07:04
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helpmeplznow it works07:04
helpmeplzbrb07:04
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oskudeam i lagging, or is no one saying anythign... :)07:07
robotgeeki think no one is saying anything07:07
icon256not anymore07:07
icon256lol07:07
oskudeomg, newer seen that :)07:07
mtuppersweet thanks!07:07
robotgeekhmm, at #ubuntu we fix everything :)07:07
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oskude:)07:08
icon256yeah I'm looking to put pvr or dvr on this OS by of MythTV07:08
wackymushhey what are some kernel bootup arguments i can give to not boot x, and just run with terminals07:08
oskudei tried mythtv too, very complicated: http://www.abarbaccia.com/07:09
icon256"tried" seems hard already07:09
icon256lol07:09
MrFartsdoes anyone know where i can change the awful font that ubuntu uses for menus ? :)07:09
oskudeicon256, well, i stopped after "apt-get install mythtv" was not enough :)07:10
durttheres a font howto in the forums07:10
icon256that's not good, did you get anything working on it?07:10
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icon256I guess not if you stop "apt-get install mythtv"07:10
icon256I belive you had to compile it before you ran that line.07:11
oskudeicon256, i didnt stop apt-get, but i somehow blow the configuration of mythtv and couldnt reconfigure/remove it...07:11
oskudeand the tut in http://www.abarbaccia.com/ is so cimplicated :)07:12
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oskudeand as i know PD, i programmed my own tv recorder with it :)07:13
icon256aww...I'm probably going to have the same trouble then. But I'll try it anyway. Got the tv card and tvout; maybe I'll just go with microsoft Media center or something.07:13
EdLinicon256, Media Center is full of DRM07:14
oskudeicon256, i just got confused as mythv asked about my mysql root password, AFTER it installed mysql... and that i couldnt make reverse...07:14
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oskudesry, ment BEFORE it instaled mysql07:15
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icon256that's ok, umm...interesting, so I'll still have to try This OS Ubuntu07:15
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icon256I'll let you know if I see you on, in next couple weeks.07:15
oskudeicon256, try to install mysql FIRST, set its root password and then install mythtv07:16
icon256k07:16
icon256that's good to know.07:16
wackymushcan i keep all that fancy gnome gui shit from loading, through arguments at the boot prompt?07:16
icon256thanks, I hope it works07:16
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oskudeicon256, i got mythtv to "work" but the communicytion with mysql was not working right...07:17
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icon256I understand...I will try that way you just said, think it will work?07:17
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selmum, i just installed ubuntu on my powerbook, and i cant find my airport, nor can i connect to my network through a hardwire connection. i was wondering if any one had run in to this before?07:17
oskudeicon256, so as i tried to setup with "mythtv-setup" nothing was saved...07:17
icon256Selm, I have ran it to that.07:18
icon256I don't know if there's any type of encryption. WAP???07:18
icon256does Ubuntu handle it? I don't know either.07:18
liberviscowhen you do apt-get update or just update repositories from synaptic, where is this database stored?07:18
oskudeif you set up mysql before mythtv, and when installing mythtv give the right mysql root password it couls work...07:18
selmno no, i cant find the airport card in my comp.07:19
EdLinselm, Linux doesn't support the airport because it has proprietary specs.07:19
icon256nice, I should try that then, Thanks so much for this quick advice. cool. I be trying this week end after clean my house for sale.07:19
selmdamn it07:19
EdLinselm, you should be able to run your wired NIC though; google about it.07:20
selmok...07:20
oskudebut this seems a very indepth howto for ubuntu&mythtv: http://www.abarbaccia.com/07:20
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icon256interesting edlin, and selm.07:20
icon256oskude, k I will read it in addition to your advise.07:20
selmthanks for you help07:20
nickrudlibervisco, /var/lib/apt/lists07:21
oskudeicon256, roger, if you get it work, post on ubuntuforums.org :)07:21
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EdLinicon256, it's very hard to write a driver if you don't have any specifications; Apple chose to make the airport have secret specifcations and didn't at least make available a binary Linux driver. Complain to them.07:21
icon256yes sir! lol07:21
oskude:)07:21
bungleYAY nikon d70 auto dectect07:22
bungleI love my cam07:22
liberviscoalright, thanks nickrud :)07:22
icon256Edlin, Lol, I just thought because it was encrypted or something WAP.07:22
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MrFartsdoes anyone know how to change the default ubuntu mouse cursors ?07:22
nickrudlibervisco, /var/lib/dpkg is also interesting07:22
freddyi love wireless on linux :)07:22
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bunglesystem - preferences - mouse ? MrFarts07:22
EdLinicon256, no, WEP is just a practically worthless encryption standard that has little to nothing to do with your hardware support.07:22
icon256freddy, it work at home right.07:22
MrFartsbungle, there is only one "theme" installed07:23
icon256freddy, did you try at airports?07:23
MrFartsi'm not sure how to install other "themes" because i don't know where they are stored07:23
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freddyit works on my laptop so perfect..when any other distro could help me configure it right07:23
icon256Edlin, right, my bad, WEP07:23
libervisconickrud, I see.. I'm asking because I want to update the list in hoary and import that in breezy because I can't compile my modem driver there07:23
icon256k07:23
bungle /usr/share/themes ?07:23
nickrudlibervisco, not a good idea, i don't think07:24
EdLinicon256, keep WEP enabled though, it's somewhat better than nothing; at least it will keep people from using your connection accidentally.07:24
nickrudlibervisco, which modem driver?07:24
liberviscoI just want to install GCC 3 somehow on breezy, because it wont compile on GCC 407:24
libervisconickrud, connexant HSF07:24
Agrajaglibervisco: apt-get install gcc-3.407:24
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nickrudlibervisco, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.407:24
libervisconickrud, but there's no connection if there's no modem :)07:25
oskudebtw. what are the 530 of 560 users doing here ? afk ? :)07:25
liberviscothat's the catch07:25
icon256I usually do, I just didn't know if it made a difference in the airports since so many people might be using the same Wifi router07:25
nickrudlibervisco, heh07:25
icon256night everyone thanks for the chat.07:25
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zorba64oskude: loitering while doing other shit07:25
liberviscoso I want to install it somehow by downloading packs in hoary and then installing in breezy07:25
nickrudlibervisco, do you have acces to another linux machine on the net07:25
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oskudezorba64, and why dont they set "away" ... =07:26
oskude?07:26
libervisconickrud, no, just this comp07:26
nickrudlibervisco, take a look at apt-zip, it's for getting packages and dependencies on a machine with no net access07:26
MrFartsbungle, those are not cursor themes07:26
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libervisconick58b, will do :)07:26
liberviscosounds interesting :)07:26
zorba64oskude: maybe don't know how to...or can't be bothered or are zzzz07:26
nickrudlibervisco, you can boot hoary, and have net there, right?07:26
libervisconickrud, right07:26
nickrudtry that07:26
oskudezorba64, or dont really care :=07:27
oskude)07:27
snowowlwhat has to be done @ freenode .net07:27
bungleMrFarts, isn't the cursor theme "human"07:27
bungleis human not listed in the themes section07:27
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MrFartsbungle, there is both a cursor theme "human" and a gnome theme "human"07:28
nickrudor maybe building a searchable database of answers :)07:28
oskude560 users and no-one talking, lol :)07:29
wickedpuppyoskude, nobody ?07:29
snowowldoes anyone use the Xinerama extension07:29
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bungletru I dunno where the cursor themes are .. I no my b/f was trying to take pics of me asleep though07:29
oskudewickedpuppy, well, VERY VERY few...07:29
nelsonsnowowl: I do.07:29
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nelsonsnowowl: did you have a question about xinerama?07:30
wickedpuppyoskude, thats true of all support channels ... helpers help in turn and well those in trouble ask...07:30
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snowowlI have three samsungs using Xinerama but one wont do opengl07:30
nickrudcursor fonts can be put in .gnome2/share/cursor-fonts, if I remember right07:30
nelsonsnowowl: 3D accelleration and xinerama don't work at the same time.07:30
pilgrimHi all. I'm no ubuntu user, nor am I a troll, I'm just doing research. Having said that, what kind of stuff works out of the box in Ubuntu (e.g. digital camera, flash drive, etc)?07:31
oskudewickedpuppy, i was just wondering why people stay in channel if obiosly AFK...07:31
wickedpuppypilgrim, there is live cd ...07:31
snowowltow Samsung monitors is on adp nvidia other is on PCI nvidia07:31
snowowlagp*07:31
nelsonoskude: because they're going to read the log or scrollback.07:31
wickedpuppyoskude, i am in 8 channels ... i can't be talking on all :P07:31
pilgrimwickedpuppy: and that's a true reflection of what ubuntu is capable of?07:32
nickrudargh, need to read more carefully sometimes07:32
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nelsonsnowowl: right.  I don't think *any* hardware supports both 3D hardware and xinerama.07:32
Madpilotpilgrim: mostly07:32
icon256oskude, wow, this site is good. This really is good at explaining every aspect, thanks07:32
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wickedpuppypilgrim, live cd is the live image of the install cd ... of course once you install you got more options but you want right out of the box without any tweaking07:32
snowowlthanks nelson - its a little disapointing though07:32
oskudeok, sry im new to IRC and it annoyng to see 560 users online and actually 10 are talking (why not set away?)07:32
wickedpuppyoskude, yah sure .. pls msg them to put their nick on away when they go away...07:33
oskudewho asked about mouse pointers, he are some themes: http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=3607:33
Madpilotoskude: setting 'away' doesn't, AFAIK, remove you from the user count of a channel - and several clients do irritating away/still away/returned messages...07:33
nelsonsnowowl: indeed, yes.07:33
nickruddange I can't find anything in X anymore, it's all moved07:34
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rubinanyone know how to make kino sound work in esound?07:34
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rubindoes esd make a /dev device you can play via?07:34
oskudewickedpuppy, but i would see them "gray" in my list so i see they are not watching the chat atm...07:34
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Madpilotpilgrim: from my own experience - and other's reports - digital cameras "just work" - plug them in and gThumb will pull down their pictures...07:34
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pilgrimMadpilot: cool. cool.07:35
wickedpuppyoskude, whether they watch or don't ... does it matter ?? i am curious ... not arguing ...07:35
pilgrimAnd upgrading from one version to next, painless or not?07:35
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thechitowncubspilgrim, my capture card worked out of the box07:35
kapputuwhat's the difference between helix player and real player?07:35
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oskudewickedpuppy, well, not really. its just "annoying" to _see_ they are online, but arent...07:35
thechitowncubspilgrim, my network card worked out of the box07:35
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wickedpuppyoskude, ah ... then you havn't been to efnet or undernet ...07:36
oskudewickedpuppy, nope, im a IRC noob :)07:36
Madpilotpilgrim: upgrading is fairly painless07:36
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thechitowncubspilgrim, pretty much my whole computer, all i had to add on was nvidia's proprietary drivers for gfx support07:36
pilgrimthechitowncubs: not bad, I say.07:37
oskudeso what ever i see on the users list, the first question should be "is there anybody out there" :)07:37
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snowowlI uograded my XBox to the new version quite easily07:37
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kapputuwhat's the difference between helix player and real player?07:37
wickedpuppyoskude, another channel if you wish you talk more about this pls .. or pm me07:37
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thechitowncubssnowowl, new version of what?07:37
crimsunkapputu: realplay contains real.com's proprietary codecs07:37
Madpilotoskude: join #ubuntu-offtopic if you just want to chat07:38
wickedpuppysnowowl, i turned my xbox 360 degrees and there i have it .. xbox36007:38
oskuderoger, (no more ot)07:38
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snowowlWick: lol07:38
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acc__:-)07:39
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snowowlI mean to the new verion of ubuntu07:39
misfit_toysnowowl, breezy 360?07:40
Madpilotsnowowl: you run Ubuntu on your XBox? cool.07:41
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info+i07:42
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snowowlXBOX linux project07:44
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gowrihai07:44
gowrihello07:45
gowrii am new to ubantu07:45
gowrii need help07:45
gowrirelp help07:45
snowowlgowri: with what07:45
freddyubantu07:45
freddylol07:45
yiwhere could i get the mozconfig for the firefox that's shipped with ubuntu?07:45
nelsongowri: you have to ask a more specific question than that.07:45
freddysounds like a fisher price toy07:45
gowrii dont see kde when i start my pc07:45
gowrii directly log on to gnome07:46
freddycause there isnt07:46
wickedpuppygowri, you are aware of the ubuntu->gnome and kubuntu->kde links ??07:46
Madpilotgowri: Ubuntu only installs Gnome...07:46
gowrinope07:46
gowriok07:46
GURTi got breezy CDs today :D07:47
gowrican i get them for free07:47
wickedpuppyGURT, where you live ?07:47
GURTyes07:47
GURTwickedpuppy: new york state07:47
lishGURT: Isnt it cool?07:47
wickedpuppyah heck ... i am in asia07:47
Madpilotgowri: if you've got Ubuntu/Gnome installed, you can switch to Kubuntu/KDE07:47
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snowowlgowri: Too easy - Log in and go to synaptic and install  "kubuntu desktop" I can guide you07:47
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GURTlish: yeah i guess.. i love getting mail.. and free stuff.. and things i can give away07:47
wickedpuppyGURT, free spam ?07:48
GURTno, stuff :P07:48
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gowriok07:48
lishI feel ubuntu and debian... give me the feeling of love :P07:48
nelsonlish: Okay.  We all love you.07:49
GURTyeah07:49
gowribut how will do that07:49
GURTbut you can't have my beer07:49
lishnelson: so good!07:49
GURTgowri: hang on07:49
yahyai noticed a lot of docs in /usr/share/doc.. is there a viewer for these?07:49
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gowrisynaptic...?07:49
rob1no thats your hand07:49
GURTgowri: nvm.. i thought you were asking me.07:49
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Madpilot!tell gowri about synaptic07:50
gowriplz07:50
gowriplz guide me07:50
Madpilotgowri: you should have gotten a msg from ubotu w/ a URL07:50
gowriyes07:50
oskudeyahya, i think they are mostly normal text files07:50
gowri https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto07:51
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lishIn linux,a terminal is necessary ,of course07:51
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quaik8yahya use less gedit nano or vim ^^07:51
xzrsrmhello07:51
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xzrsrmhello07:51
yahyaoskude: they're mostly .gz. i thought there would be some software to browse them07:52
snowowlgowri: Applications Menu->Terminal-> Type " sudo apt-get install synaptic"07:52
oskudeyahya, "zless"07:52
gowriok it is same as add and remove prgs in windows07:52
wickedpuppysnowowl, synaptic comes with ubuntu07:52
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snowowlyup07:52
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Madpilotsnowowl: it's installed by default...07:52
quaik8great i didn't know about zless07:52
Madpilotgowri: it's more powerful than add/remove in Windows07:53
CORONAanyone knows what is the best thing to do when you have a complete system freeze- no mouse, keyboard...is it a reboot?07:53
acetechdoes anyone know an equivilant for xdccklicker in linux?07:53
gowrioh ok07:53
yahyaoskude: thanks.07:53
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oskudeyahya, youre welcome07:53
wickedpuppyCORONA, its time to scream if you ever see something like this in ubuntu07:53
snowowlgowri: Applications Menu->Terminal-> Type " sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"07:53
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gowriwhat should i do after opening it07:54
CORONAwickedpuppy: it happens quite a bit to me ;)07:54
wickedpuppyCORONA, then check ya /var/log ....your hardware got big problem ... apps crash .. for kernel itself to freeze is another thing07:55
Madpilotgowri: hit the search button, search for "kubuntu" - choose the "kubuntu-desktop" package, and hit the Apply button07:55
snowowlgowri: if you have synaptic open click on the window with all the check boxes and type "kubuntu-desktop" it should highlight the package07:55
CORONAwickedpuppy: i have lot of crashes on kde apps07:55
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rabeldableanyone in here know anything about the apache module mod_security?07:56
wickedpuppyCORONA, app crashes all the time ... but you said the whole OS froze07:56
Madpilotrabeldable: #apache?07:56
wickedpuppyrabeldable, #apache07:56
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necatorhey guys does ubuntu have some kind of built in firewall? im trying to use azureus to download a torrent and i keep getting no connection. I think its a nat error and wondering if maybe ubuntu is blocking it with a firewall?07:56
rabeldableI've been to #apache07:56
rabeldablethank you07:56
CORONAwickedpuppy: ya first its the apps then the whole system freezes07:56
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CORONAwickedpuppy: which log file should i look at07:57
wickedpuppyCORONA, then its just more than apps crashing .. check ya /var/log/message07:57
CORONAwickedpuppy: ok07:57
Madpilotnecator: install Firestarter and make sure the bittorrent ports are opened07:57
necatoris firestarter located in apt-get ?07:57
wickedpuppynecator, get firestarter .. open 6881-6889 ... btw some ISPs block those ports07:57
wickedpuppynecator, of course07:57
necatoris firestarter the most often recommended firewall? or just easiest ot use ?07:58
wickedpuppynecator, why not try it out ?07:58
necatoram about too now07:58
wickedpuppyok07:58
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necatorjust wondering while i try it if its a popular firewall or not07:58
snowowlwick: Is firestarter in the default repositories07:58
wickedpuppynecator, its the frontend for iptables ...07:59
wickedpuppysnowowl, yes07:59
necatormy comp said firestarter is already at the newest version.07:59
wickedpuppyshould be .. if not enable uni and multi07:59
necatorso it appears i have it already.07:59
necatorhow do i use it?07:59
necatornm got it goin07:59
wickedpuppynecator, ... type firestarter or application -> internet ->firestarter07:59
necatorthx guys07:59
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necatorit dossent appear in my applications > internet > spot but it does run from the terminal.08:00
foobarhow would I have an command execute on startup (an app launch rather)?08:00
snowowlsystem tools-firestarter08:00
wickedpuppynecator, oh it should be in system tools08:00
necatoryup its there.08:00
necatorthx08:00
wickedpuppyfoobar, startup as in start of init or start or x ?08:01
necatoro since im installing a firewall now im curious do i need all those other secuirty apps too like anti virus and anti spyware etc?08:01
foobarx08:01
Madpilotnecator: not really08:01
snowowlnecator: This aint Windows08:01
necatorsnowowl thats y i was asking.08:01
necatorsnowowl to see if i needed to take the same precautions08:02
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CORONAwickedpuppy: if an app like amarok crashed would it be logged in /var/log/messages08:02
snowowlNeca: ClamAV is a nice virus scan though08:02
Madpilotnecator: there aren't really any Linxu viruses08:02
wickedpuppyCORONA, yes08:02
necatorthe firestarter wizard says i can eable internet connetion sharing08:02
necatordoi need to do that if im already behind a router?08:02
wickedpuppynecator, if you are behind a router you gotta forward the port there too08:03
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oskudeist there a program that shows disk usage, like "top" shows cpu usage ?08:03
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wickedpuppyoskude, df08:03
necatorforward the port for firestarter? i dont quite understand.08:03
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acetech__is it a good idea to setup a firewall in linux when I already have it setup on my router?08:03
oskudewickedpuppy, i think u gave me that answer allready :) df != top08:03
ReeldHey guys08:03
wickedpuppynecator, you gotta forward the port on the router ..08:03
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ReeldHow do I compile the kernal?08:04
necatorwickedpuppy yes but which port?08:04
Madpilotnecator: you might have to forward the bittorrent ports08:04
necatormadpilot o ok that ive done.08:04
Madpilotnecator: but I didn't have to, despite being behind a router...08:04
NoUse!tell Reeld about kernelhowto08:04
wickedpuppyacetech, no need really ... but if you want go ahead .. its your call08:04
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acetech__neactor: azureus lets you choose which port to listen on08:04
necatormadpilot do i have to enable internet connection sharing in this firestarter wizard or should i leave that job to my router since its doing it already.08:04
oskudeok, rephrase, is there a program that monitors disk access ? (i want to know what program is using my disk atm)08:05
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CORONAwickedpuppy: it looks ok to me-the messages log. but there are a lot of entries like this one Nov 13 11:32:56 bigbillcotton kernel: [4295159.494000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).08:05
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snowowlJust for general info: How do you go about fowarding a port to a router08:05
CORONANov 13 11:32:56 bigbillcotton kernel: [4295159.494000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.08:05
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wickedpuppyCORONA, pls don't paste08:05
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wickedpuppypastebin pls08:05
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CORONAwickedpuppy: sorry about that08:05
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acetech__snowowl: you have to go into your router...08:05
wickedpuppysnowowl, router usually have web interface ...08:05
wickedpuppy192.168.1.108:05
wickedpuppyusually08:05
necatorwickedpuppy do i have to enable internet connection sharing in this firestarter wizard or should i leave that job to my router since its doing it already.08:05
gowridoes ubuntu support fat3208:06
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oskudeFYI: 10.20.30.1 is easier to remember/type than 192.168.1.1 :)08:06
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snowowltrue, true, thx08:06
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wickedpuppynecator, first ... disable the firewall .. then forward the port on router ... then test ... then on the firewall if you wish and open the port08:06
gowridoes ubuntu support fat3208:06
oskudegowri, yes08:06
wickedpuppygowri, yes08:06
wickedpuppyyou can read and write08:06
dirksonSay, does anyone know how to bind a key to a command?08:07
acetech__ubuntu supports NTFS too08:07
necatorwickedpuppy yes im clear on that part im refering to the internet  connection sahring since i share internet in my house. do i enable that in firestarter ? becuase my router is what shares my internet so im not sure if i have to enable it in the firestarter also or jsut leave it be for the router08:07
wickedpuppyacetech, only read ...08:07
gowrii dont see my windows 98 partation in ubuntu08:07
oskudedirkson, System -> Preferences-> Keyboard Shortcuts08:07
necatorgowri i think you have to mount it.08:08
wickedpuppygowri, type sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda08:08
CORONAwickedpuppy: here http://pastebin.com/42749708:08
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gowrione moment08:08
gowrii will try08:08
Madpilotnecator: your router will still take care of that08:08
dirksonOskude Well, yes, but how do I define my own? I only see options for using the presets? >.<08:08
wickedpuppynecator, test azureus without doing anything first ....08:08
necatorwickedpuppy i wanted to go ahead and config the firewall now since i dont have one anyway.08:08
oskudedirkson, just saw the same :) dunno about that, sry (but i would be interested too)08:08
dirksonOskude Np : )08:09
necatori like its system tray icon :p08:09
gowriafter typing what should i do08:09
gowriit showed all the partations i have08:09
dirksonAnyone else have any hints for how to bind a key to a command?08:10
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gowrihow will i mount them08:10
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jrsimsany Apache ninjas here tonight?08:10
wickedpuppyCORONA, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76271.html08:10
wickedpuppyjrsims, #apache08:10
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wickedpuppygowri, man mount08:10
gowrihow to mount fat3208:10
jrsimswickedpuppy: no, they're very slow tonight. no help.08:10
CORONACO http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76271.html08:11
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CORONAsorry i'm trying to copy that08:11
oskudeoh i got one i forgot, i got a program that uses kde-panel to display its icon when minimized, i got gnome and i dont see any icon when i minimize. so is there a command to get that program "infront" again ?08:11
wickedpuppygowri, mount -t vfat /dev/to/mount /dir/to/mount08:11
DShepher1hey08:11
jrsimsbesides, my issue may be more an ubuntu question than an apache question08:11
wickedpuppyjrsims, you can ask but no guarrentee08:11
Fr0Gsi cant get quake3 demo to work if someone can help me plz message me08:11
necatorso where would i go about opening a port in firestarter? or enabling a program access08:11
DShepher1I trying to configure sound in flash08:11
jrsimsok here goes - I'08:11
Fr0Gsi cant get quake3 demo to work if someone can help me plz message me08:11
DShepher1I did what the starter guide toldme08:11
DShepher1but it hasnt seemed to work.Can anyone shed light on this08:12
DShepher1?08:12
wickedpuppynecator, policy08:12
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jrsimsI'm running version 2.0 of Apache and it seems a daemon called 'apache2' is running instead of 'httpd'.08:12
wickedpuppyjrsims, thats correct08:12
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jrsimsok, well here's what's confusing me - the docs at apache.org (for version 2.0) reference 'httpd' instead of 'apache2'. Why is that?08:13
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wickedpuppyjrsims, lol .. for that you gotta ask the apache guys08:13
oskudeor did ubuntu name it apache2 instead of httpd ?08:14
wickedpuppyjrsims, or you can offer to volunteer the changes ?08:14
jrsimsoskude: EXACTLY.08:14
wickedpuppythats easy to answer .. go ask in other distro channels08:14
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wickedpuppyyou can get the answer in less than 5 min ... instead of wondering08:15
oskudei dont have any other distro atm to test, but apache1.x was definetly httpd...08:15
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Madpilotjrsims: Debian changed some Apache things, and Ubuntu has inherited them - that's what some of the #apache ppl told me...08:15
JaMiNkLe>.> can somebody please help me with mac-fdisk08:15
DShepherdI can get sound out of my flash..? CAn anyone help08:15
StevenKoskude: apache 1.3 under Debian is called 'apache'08:15
StevenKRedHat/Fedora call it httpd.08:16
jrsimsMadpilot: Cool. That would explain a lot.08:16
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oskudeStevenK, hmm, it was like 1year a go as i last used debian, and there apache was httpd...08:16
necatorwickedpuppy port seems to be checking out ok in azureus port tester.08:16
necatorwickedpuppy so i think its working ok now. thx for the help.08:16
Noah0504Does anyone happen to have a version of CrossOver?08:16
wickedpuppynecator, no need to test the ports .... if you got green light its all fine08:16
Madpilotjrsims: Apache2 also changed a lot on its own, I gather, and some of the docs might not have caught up08:16
wickedpuppyNoah0504, ask man ask ... just ask08:16
necatorwickedpuppy havent got the lights yet but im hoping and exspecting them08:16
stazichhow do i add Extra Repositories in Synaptic?08:17
wickedpuppy!repositories08:17
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list08:17
hijazihi every body08:17
Fr0Gswhats the command for the 3d glxgears08:17
oskudeyeah, doc for OSS, please dont ask ;)08:17
jrsimsMadpilot: offhand, do you know when 2.0 was released?08:17
JaMiNkLe>.> can somebody please help me with mac-fdisk08:17
Noah0504wickedpuppy: But I did, haha.08:17
wickedpuppyFr0Gs, glxgears ?08:17
Fr0Gsyer] 08:17
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Fr0Gsu know the 3d one08:17
wickedpuppyyes .. glxgears ...08:18
stevejesuswhats up guys.  stevejesus is in the house08:18
wickedpuppythats the command08:18
Fr0Gstheres another 108:18
jrsimsWell, I just tend to think that if you don't have current docs for 2.0, don't call it the 'Apache 2.0 Documentation'.08:18
oskudeJaMiNkLe, hmm, i dont have a mac but whats your problem ?08:18
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JaMiNkLewell.. i have no idea how to use it08:18
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necatorwickedpuppy still red but no more nat error08:18
Madpilotjrsims: the release dates will be in the docs, or on the Apache website08:18
JaMiNkLei assume it would be the same as fdisk08:18
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stevejesusso i was thinking about installing this 60gig in my machine and using it as my my home dir....  is there a way to do that?08:19
wickedpuppynecator, nat error or no .. red light means you got problem with ya network08:19
necatorwickedpuppy i have 2 diff tracker errors08:19
jrsimsWell, thanks for the input everyone. Peace out.08:19
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DShepherdDo i need to restart my broswer after applying the suggested fix for sound in flash?08:19
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oskudeJaMiNkLe, i once installed (yellowdog)linux under my friends powerbook, and it was making some funny small partitions to addition of the normal partitions...08:20
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QuaruptIs the new version Stable?08:20
necatorone says connection error zipexception:gzip header corrupted08:20
NoUseQuarupt yes08:20
necatorother says ok(dht:)08:20
snowowl_Its a horse it lives a place called a stable08:20
DShepherdQuarupt: new verison of what?08:21
stevejesusdoes anyone know how to move your homedir to another drive and use it from there instead?08:21
DShepherdDo i need to restart my broswer after applying the suggested fix for sound in flash?..anyone?08:21
Quaruptof Ubuntu, what else08:21
MadpilotQuarupt: if you mean Breezy, yes, it's very stable08:21
Quaruptnot Breezy08:21
QuaruptThere are Snapshots on the Ubuntu site for the new version08:21
NoUseQuarupt if not Breezy, what?08:21
QuaruptBegins with f08:21
wickedpuppynecator, ah thats ... tracker problem ? unless i am downloading the same thing as you i wouldn't know08:21
QuaruptCant remeber08:21
wickedpuppydapper08:21
Quaruptyea08:22
nelsondapper duck?08:22
wickedpuppylol08:22
QuaruptIt was on slashdot too08:22
NoUseQuarupt thats not stable, its a dev version08:22
nelsonor dapper dragon.  One or the other.08:22
necatorwickedpuppy well thx for help its late i better get some sleep while i still can08:22
StevenKdapper drake08:22
nelsonoh, THAT's IT!08:22
Quaruptits called Drake08:22
Quaruptyea08:22
StevenKNoUse: At the moment it's a development version. It will be released.08:22
QuaruptIt was on slashdot front page, I was like YEA BABY thats my distro08:22
NoUseStevenK yeah I know08:22
nelsondevelopment dapper drake duck dragon.08:23
stevejesusi suppose noone has experience with that?08:23
oskudeis Drake = like sid on debian ?08:23
wickedpuppyQuarupt, you are using breezy ?08:23
QuaruptYea08:23
wickedpuppythen you are on the edge already ... as far as stable version goes08:23
Fr0Gswhere can i get an ati driver for a 9200se08:23
wickedpuppy!ati08:23
QuaruptStable is never on the Edge08:23
ubotuit has been said that ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1008:23
Madpilotoskude: Dapper Drake is the next release of Ubuntu, now in dev/testing, it'll be released in April 200608:23
QuaruptThe edge is beta baby08:23
stevejesusFrOGs:  just apt-get fglrx08:23
oskudeMadpilot, roger08:23
CORONAwickedpuppy: thanks for the help, i dont think amarok is logging anything into messages. cause i just switched it on and it does not appear in my system tray. it has been doing this for a while08:24
stevejesusFrOGs:  apt-get install fglrx08:24
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stevejesusFrOGs:  sudo ofcourse08:24
wickedpuppyCORONA, no problem .. btw can your nick be in small letters ?08:24
NoUseQuarupt if you run Dapper, you'll probably get 50-100MB of updates every 1-2 days08:24
MadpilotQuarupt: then you should be happy running Dapper - just expect to spend the next 5 months crashing ;)08:24
DShepherdstill no sound in flash..help08:24
wickedpuppyNoUse, i don't think the development is that fast ...08:24
NoUsewickedpuppy when i've run beta releases of other distros thats how fast it was08:25
CORONAwickedpuppy: do i have to do a set nick for that?08:25
wickedpuppyi be astounded if they can change 50-100mb in 2 days ...08:25
QuaruptI dun care im on a AMD 64 Athlon 3.4Ghz 3 Gigs of ram sittin on a 7Mbit connection08:25
Fr0Gsstevejesus pm08:25
wickedpuppyCORONA, /nick corona08:25
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NoUsewickedpuppy all they'd have to do is update openoffice08:25
wickedpuppyNoUse, that will be for one or two days ... then ?08:26
DShepherddoes anyone have sound running thru flash/08:26
DShepherd?08:26
oskudei still have an "issue" with this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto, they say its for 9500 and up, but ati website says 8500 and up, are there NOT the same driver ?08:26
coronawickedpuppy: better08:26
QuaruptGod I hate NFS08:26
wickedpuppycorona, excellent :P btw you can register ya nick if you havn't ... /msg nickserv help register08:26
NoUsewickedpuppy I'm just speaking from what I've experienced, maybe its different with ubuntu08:26
Fr0Gsi lost my origanal sources.list for ubuntu 4.10 can someone send me there origanal one please08:26
wickedpuppy!sources08:26
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:26
MadpilotFr0Gs: 4.10 or 5.10?08:26
coronawickedpuppy: i have thats why i asked if i should do a /set nick thing08:26
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stevejesusFrOGs:  if you are using 5.10 then you may have mine08:27
QuaruptAnyone ever done NFS from Ubuntu to FreeBSD?08:27
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wickedpuppycorona, changing nick and registering nick not the same08:27
Fr0Gs4.10 Madpilot08:27
foxgamerHi all.08:27
stevejesusFrOGs:  good luck.  thats a little outdated and difficult to find things for08:28
coronawickedpuppy: i have registered with CORONA08:28
foxgamerI am wondering. Has anyone managed to get their ATI card working on 64bit ubuntu? I have been going through the forums and with no luck.08:28
NoUseFr0Gs something keeping you from upgrading?08:28
QuaruptWho develops the Linux kernel?08:28
wickedpuppyQuarupt, a lot08:28
NoUseQuarupt the better question is who doesn't08:28
Quaruptis there a site?08:28
oskudeis fglrx = official ati binary driver ?08:28
stevejesusFrOGs:  there is a sources.list generator in the wiki or somewhere.  it might make you one.  but it is no longer supported08:28
NoUseQuarupt kernel.org08:28
wickedpuppyQuarupt, kernel.org ???? i think its obvious08:28
wickedpuppycorona, i have nothing against caps ... just that it means shouting in irc08:29
coronawickedpuppy: i agree, just didn't notice that with all the problems i have been facing08:30
DShepherdubuntu users... http://www.quake4game.com/ == DO you have sound?08:30
stevejesushelp me please i have a directory issue that im not sure how to resolve08:30
wickedpuppyDShepherd, yes08:30
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oskudestevejesus, just ask with good explanation08:30
coronawickedpuppy: i have just rescued a corrupt root with a system rescue disk...its a nightmare08:30
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DShepherdahh life.....so you used the flash fix for sound?08:31
wickedpuppyDShepherd, thats one cool flash site ... thanks for the link08:31
stevejesusi would like to install a second drive into my machine and use it exclusively as my homedir.  i am not sure how to go about this08:31
DShepherdwickedpuppy: ahh life.....so you used the flash fix for sound?08:31
stevejesusi already have a perfectly functional machine08:31
wickedpuppyDShepherd, flash fix ? no08:31
DShepherdwickedpuppy: no prob, but i need help.....my flash doesnt work..08:31
coronawickedpuppy: and i think my filesystems corrupt when i do a forced reboot or shutdown because of the crashes i'm having...do you think so?08:31
wickedpuppy!flash08:32
ubotufrom memory, flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:32
DShepherdwickedpuppy: so you have flash plugin for your browswer installed and it just worked?08:32
oskudewell, my next card will be a nvidia, so i dont care :)08:32
wickedpuppyDShepherd, yes .. just work08:32
NoUsestevejesus is the HD installed?08:32
wickedpuppycorona, possible08:32
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Sashia problem when compling08:32
StevenKstevejesus: The first step is to physically install the drive. Then you format the drive, mount it as /media/newhome or something, move your current /home there, and then edit /etc/fstab and reboot.08:32
DShepherdwickedpuppy: I went to that link already.. and that didnt work08:32
Sashianyone help08:32
Sashigcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'as':No such file or directory08:32
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stevejesusno, but after recieve affirmation that i will be able to accomplish this, i will install it and format it08:32
DShepherdwickedpuppy: i going to try resinstalling the plugin08:32
wickedpuppyDShepherd, eh ah .. i installed with that instruction ..08:32
wickedpuppySashi, what you typed ?08:33
wickedpuppyDShepherd, good idea :P08:33
Sashimake sql08:33
stevejesusStevenK:  i figured that would be the process, i was just a little scared08:33
Sashiits fer a game :P08:33
Sashia server08:33
Sashitrying to make the sh's w/e08:33
bonyque onda08:33
bonyalgun pinche Mexicano08:34
StevenKstevejesus: Heh. As long as you are exactly clear what each command does before you run it, you should be okay.08:34
stevejesusim gonna shutdown and pop the drive in, format, and i shall return.  hopefully...08:34
wickedpuppySashi, you are making no sense .. you want to install sql server ?08:34
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DShepherdwickedpuppy: didnt see to have that plugin installed,....strange....08:34
Sashigrr08:34
Sashino08:34
Sashiw/e08:34
DShepherdseem*08:34
stevejesusStevenK:  I think ill be alright.  seems pretty straightforward08:35
wickedpuppySashi, if you can not explain what you want .. i can't help .. nobody can08:35
wickedpuppyDShepherd, where did you checked ?08:35
DShepherdwickedpuppy: you remember doing  sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1 too?08:35
foobarwhere is the gnome menu located (to add startup entries)?08:35
wickedpuppyDShepherd, no such thing08:35
DShepherdwickedpuppy:  i just did that....and it downloaded some stuff and install itsudo apt-get install libflash-mozplugin08:36
wickedpuppyDShepherd, billy@wicked1:~$ /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so08:36
wickedpuppythats what i got08:36
QuaruptAnyone know a good place to start learning how to shell script?08:36
wickedpuppyQuarupt, #bash08:36
oskudeQuarupt, sec, i had a good one08:36
wickedpuppyand google08:36
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Quaruptk08:36
coronawickedpuppy: thank you see you later08:36
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Quarupti have googled it08:36
wickedpuppycorona, see ya later dude08:36
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Quaruptstfw08:37
Quaruptrtfm08:37
asdfasdfi have already a CD of hoary, how to upgrade my warthy to hoary >? without using Apt-something... ?08:37
NoUseQuarupt http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/unix/bash-tute.html08:37
Quaruptya have to use apt08:37
Quaruptor a front end08:37
rixthDoes anyone bother to see whether they have been hit by Linux/lupper.worm?08:38
oskudeQuarupt, http://www.linuxcommand.org/08:38
NoUseasdfasdf you can add the CD as a repo in synaptic08:38
asdfasdfno, i have already a Hoary CD....08:38
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NoUseasdfasdf I know, you add the CD as a repository in synaptic08:38
asdfasdfthats it ?08:39
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Quaruptthx NoUse Thats good shit08:39
asdfasdfhave to replace sources.list ?08:39
NoUseQuarupt found it via google08:39
NoUseasdfasdf https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes08:39
asdfasdfokay :)08:40
Quaruptasdfasdf, Ya ya have a warty cd, that doesnt have any Breezy or Hoary source ya have to use apt to dist upgrade from warty to hoary then hoary to breezy08:40
asdfasdfno, Warthy is already installed in my machine, just want to upgrade it to Hoary.... without internet connection08:40
asdfasdfi have the Hoary CD08:40
Quaruptoh08:41
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Quaruptthen just set the sources to use the CD and do apt-get dist-upgrade08:41
NoUseasdfasdf just follow the instrucions on the link I sent you and you'll be fine08:41
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asdfasdfis it possible to apt-someting w/out internet connection ?08:42
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foxgamerHas anyone managed to get their ATI card working on 64bit ubuntu? I have been going through the forums trying all of the suggestions, but no luck yet.08:42
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NoUseasdfasdf only if its on the CD you have08:42
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DR_K13samn here fox08:42
asdfasdfi thought apt only works on a internet connected machine08:42
Quaruptasdfasdf, yes its possible, as long as ya have all the sources on the CD08:42
DR_K13same*] 08:42
foxgamerDR_K13: So you are having no luck either? I don't want to have to go back to 32bit :(08:43
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asdfasdfQuarupt, i have an Hoary installer CD, is the sources of this CD compelete ?08:43
QuaruptJust put the cd in your sources.list and do a dist-upgrade08:43
QuaruptYes08:43
DR_K13ya good luck.  i went back to 32bit08:44
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QuaruptApt will get the source from where ever you specify in the sources.list08:44
NoUseasdfasdf have you looked at the link I sent you?08:44
asdfasdfah ic...08:44
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asdfasdfNoUse,yes....08:44
NoUseasdfasdf it says exactly what you need to do08:44
asdfasdfjust need clarification regarding Apt08:44
NoUseasdfasdf ok08:45
asdfasdfi thought it only works on a internet connected pP08:45
asdfasdf*pc08:45
Quaruptapt will work offline, long as ya set the sources08:45
DShepherdhow do you force all the subfolders and files to adopt the permission on that root folder08:45
Quaruptto a local source08:45
DShepherdwith chown08:45
DShepherd?08:45
Quaruptchown 77708:45
Quarupt:)08:45
DShepherdchown -R?08:46
DR_K1377708:46
DShepherdyeah thats it08:46
QuaruptRecursive08:46
wickedpuppychown = change ownership ... chmod = change mode08:46
Quaruptya want recursive08:46
Quaruptso if its Chown 777 on that folder and anything in it, do chown 777 -R08:46
wickedpuppyso if you guys want a username 777 to own the files ... pls go ahead08:47
Quaruptoops 4got the dir08:47
Quaruptya know what I mean08:47
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DShepherdthanks, Quarupt, wickedpuppy and DR_K13t that''s helpful too08:47
Quaruptoh wait08:47
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Quaruptchmod08:47
Quaruptlol08:47
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QuaruptIm drunk08:47
DR_K13wheres your head at, wheres your head at,at,at,at,at,at, at08:48
Quaruptif yur in Nautilus just right click folder and you can set it recursively to anything ya want, just run Nautilus as root08:48
DShepherdwickedpuppy: I understand...;)...08:48
B_166-ER-XLinux + alcool = Bad08:48
liablebah08:49
QuaruptThats how I do perms when im in X08:49
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Quaruptif im in ssh, i need to be sober08:49
Quaruptunless I wanna tunnel X, but thats a whole different story08:49
QuaruptWho took my Cocoa puffs!08:50
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Quarupt_brb08:50
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MrFartsi propose that the default background theme be called "Fecal Brown" instead of "Human"08:51
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wickedpuppyMrFarts, pls feel free to propose at mailing list ..08:52
MrFartswickedpuppy, if i did that i'd propose that they eliminate that whole schme08:53
MrFartswickedpuppy, it's hideous08:53
MrFartspeople use blue because it's easy on the eyes08:53
LathropWellsHave you guys seen this recipe for SSH FS   using fuse?      http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/42750908:53
wickedpuppyMrFarts, you can propose anything ...08:53
wickedpuppyits public mailing list after all08:53
MrFartsapparently they are anti-blue because everyone else uses blue08:53
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stevejesusoh boy i really screwed it up08:54
MrFartsof course everyone else uses blue, because it looks nice :)08:54
Melissa83http://home.no.net/tms2k/stuff/not-31337.jpg08:54
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stevejesusStevenK:  guess who just screwed it all up...08:54
Melissa83http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktop37vp.png08:54
stevejesusStevenK:  the computer is still usable but...  i have to run from failsafe, with no configs and run multiple x sessions to accomplish anything08:55
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isaihii08:56
LathropWellsHi08:56
Quarupt_thats a windows BG08:56
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isaihow do I uninstall firefox without all the dependencies?08:57
stevejesusso i just tried to install a new disk and use that solely as my homedir, now i have destroyed everything.  can anyone help?08:57
LathropWellsQuarupt - did you see the link i posted for you?08:57
naliothisai: leave it, you'll make your ubuntu-desktop crazy otw08:57
QuaruptLathropWells, for what, and no i didnt08:58
LathropWellshttp://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/427509 SSH FS Tech recipe using FUSE08:58
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isaiwhat if I want to use firefox cvs or an RC build from mozilla.org ?08:58
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stevejesusi have lost my homedir.  i need help please08:58
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isaistevejesus: what do you mean you lost it? the desktop icon or the actuall dir?08:59
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QuaruptLathropWells, uhhh its a page on SHH, why do i want that?08:59
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stevejesusisai:  wel i just installed a second disk, and was attempting to use it solely as my home dir.  now i cant find it.09:00
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stevejesusisai:  now my homedir only contains lost&found09:00
LathropWellsQuarupt - lol nvm - i must of missed the first part of what you had said. - pardon me.09:00
stevejesusisai:  any suggestions?09:01
stevejesusmustard5:  whats up man09:01
isaistevejesus: so your home dir on /dev/hdb only has lost&found?09:01
mustard5yo...I'm picking ubotu's brains in private message ;)09:01
locomorto!gay09:02
Quarupt?09:02
isaistevejesus: try $ echo $HOME and see what it tells you...09:02
Quaruptjust do homeon /dev/hda109:03
stevejesusisai: ok09:03
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Quaruptthis guy told me that rm -rf /   would make it so I can play window games, but now my comp wont work??09:06
naliothQuarupt: try again, bubba09:06
isaiQuarupt: stop trolling.09:06
LathropWellsQuarupt - give me a sec and i will try it for you on my machine hang on....09:06
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QuaruptNO09:07
LathropWellslol09:07
QuaruptDude I was kidding09:07
Quaruptlol09:07
mustard5:)09:07
isai:<09:07
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QuaruptJut tryin to wake up some people thats all09:07
isai:)09:07
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naliothQuarupt: please dont choose that string any more09:07
Quarupthuh09:07
micheljey09:08
isaimichel: hey09:08
michelm this my first tume on ubuntu:P09:08
Quaruptdon't "choose" it or dont quote it in here?09:08
Noah0504I'm trying to install CrossOver 5.0.  I have a file called install.sh, how do I run it?09:08
naliothQuarupt: dont put it in this channel please09:08
Madpilotmichel: Welcome to the Light Side, then ;)09:08
Quarupt\k09:08
LathropWellsMy wife wants to use Scrabble with Cedega. - it needs 256 color mode. - does anyone know where to adjust/edit that setting?09:08
naliothubotu: tell Noah0504 about cli09:08
michelhaha:p first i had suse :P09:09
Noah0504Thanks.09:09
Quaruptwhat if someone asks how do i recursively delete everything in my root?09:09
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Quaruptyou paid for Cedega just to use scrable?09:09
LathropWellsQuarupt - Do you like them or wish them pain and torment?09:09
rixthHey guys- I need some sort of webserver manager. Like cPanel but free. Does anyone know of anything?09:10
DShepherdwhat does the  iB mean ... I get it when i use aptitude search packagname?09:10
isairixth: less -f /var/log/apache2/access09:10
naliothrixth: webmin09:10
Quaruptuse webmin baby09:10
isaisorry, I meant tail :)09:10
rixthnalioth, ick! I don't like that much09:11
Quaruptit even has a hit counter!09:11
isailate night...09:11
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LathropWellsQuarupt - if my wife uses Ubuntu i spend fewer hours every month removing spyware and reinstalling windows. - Cedega is inexpensive by that measure.09:11
Quarupttrue09:11
Quaruptbut there dxwine and its free LathropWells09:12
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DShepherdwhat does the  iB mean ... I get it when i use aptitude search packagname?09:12
isaiscrabble needs that accelerate GLX stuff :)09:12
LathropWellsQuarupt - true enough - the money is well spent still.09:12
QuaruptYea09:12
QuaruptBut my WoW subscription is allready killing me09:12
LathropWellsQaurupt - If i had a WOW subscription a sony CD for a windows cheat sounds interesting.09:13
Quaruptsony CD cheat for Windows, whats that LathropWells ?>09:14
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LathropWellslol - headed into off-topic - sorry about that nalioth.09:14
defcon8fuck wow09:14
gigcsi have question?09:14
defcon8it is for people who are silly enough to not be able to play dnd09:15
gigcsremaster ubuntu distro09:15
Quaruptdefcon8, ?09:15
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LathropWellsgigcs - ask it we are all here to help.09:15
naliothdefcon8: language please09:15
QuaruptPeople who dont play DnD are silly?09:15
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defcon8pardon me nalioth09:15
michelis there a program for ubuntu/lile msn messenger09:15
defcon8Quarupt, naah people who play WoW are silly for not playing dnd09:15
isaigaim09:16
naliothmichel: gaim,09:16
QuaruptDnD is a table top, we are talking about MMORPG's here09:16
defcon8michel, lile?09:16
defcon8Quarupt, i am talkign about rpgs in general09:16
naliothdnd WoW and all that can be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic please09:16
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LathropWellsdefcon - gaim is best and gyach has a voice app for yahoo chat.09:16
britishseapowerhow come i cant get sound working right...can someone help me ?09:16
gigcsi create gpg key own but. i try recomplie ubutnu-keyring.not pass09:16
Quaruptwtf is #ubuntu-unregged  ?09:16
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britishseapoweri got system sounds ok...and mp3s sometimes play...bit iffy though09:17
defcon8LathropWells, didnt know that09:17
naliothQuarupt: a channel to chat in #ubuntu is for ubuntu help09:17
defcon8britishseapower, very decriptive of you09:17
defcon8descriptive09:17
Quaruptnalioth, that doesnt make sense?09:17
gigcsi want add package into  cd .09:17
britishseapowerdefcon8: ok lemme try again09:17
defcon8dont, the minute i wake up my grand parents make me go and get the bread and newspaper :(09:18
Quarupt?09:18
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naliothQuarupt: #ubuntu is for help with ubuntu, not discussing the time of day in a fleas eye or mmporgs or anthing not ubuntu help related09:18
Madpilotnalioth: he asked about -unregged, not -offtopic...09:18
Quaruptnalioth, how does that answer my question of what #Ubuntu-unregged is?09:18
britishseapowertotem says "There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins"09:19
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britishseapoweri have installed the w32 codec pack as per wiki09:19
naliothunregged is a secret09:19
DShepherdwickedpuppy: still no sound09:19
DShepherd:(09:19
wickedpuppyDShepherd, eh ah ... no sound in flash or no sound ?09:20
QuaruptLathropWells, Join me in -offtopic or answer PM plz09:20
DShepherdwickedpuppy: in flash09:20
naliothQuarupt: -unregged is a spambot tagging channel09:20
LathropWellsQuarupt - okay09:20
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Quaruptif its a secret why is it in the Topic?09:20
stevejesusmy machine is now unusable09:20
wickedpuppyDShepherd, then in amarok or xmms ?09:20
naliothQuarupt: what topic?09:20
QuaruptThe channel topic09:21
DShepherdwickedpuppy: yes09:21
stevejesusis there some way to boot ubuntu and look at things when the machine has become unusable?09:21
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QuaruptKnoppix then chroot09:21
totakaexit09:21
naliothstevejesus: livecd09:21
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stevejesusgreat...09:21
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wickedpuppyDShepherd, then i am out of ideas .. sorry09:22
stevejesusthere isnt an easier way?  there are no utilutes from the install cd?09:22
DShepherdwickedpuppy: me too :(09:22
Quaruptwhats hard about Knoppic, the chroot?09:22
mustard5stevejesus, what happened to it?09:22
QuaruptKnoppix09:22
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stevejesusmustard5:  youll laugh but i really screwed it iup09:22
kvidells/s 309:23
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naliothgigcs: stay out of #ubuntu-unregged please09:23
naliothstevejesus: use the ubuntu livecd09:23
stevejesusmustard5:  i installed a second disk to use as my homedir...  but i think i went about it all wrong.  there is no homedir with proper permissions.  i can no longer login.09:24
mustard5stevejesus, I can only imagine :)09:24
gigcsnot ubntu livecd.09:24
gigcsbut ubuntu install.09:24
gigcsand i want add package on cd.09:24
gigcsHowTo.09:24
naliothgigcs: nobody in here knows, please go ask uncle google09:24
DShepherddoes sound flash work in anybodies...epiphany browser? http://www.quake4game.com/09:24
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DShepherdflash sound*09:25
stevejesusmustard5:  if i have to use a live cd thats fine.  i will prolly try and find a smaller livecd distro so that i dont have to waste time dl'ing09:25
naliothDShepherd: it should, if you're running an x86 arch09:25
mustard5stevejesus, so recovery mode doesnt drop you into a root prompt I take it?09:25
stevejesusmustard5:  what i am really concerned about is where my files went!!!09:25
bluefrog-10gigcs, http://wiki.edubuntu.org/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo09:25
DShepherdnalioth ok :(09:25
naliothstevejesus: the smaller livecds dont have the tools09:25
britishseapowertotem says "There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins"09:25
britishseapowerwhy is this ?09:25
stevejesusmustard5:  how do i get to recovery mode?  i dont see an option for it on the cd09:25
naliothubotu: tell britishseapower about multimedia09:26
mustard5stevejesus, not knowing how you went about it its hard to tell09:26
stevejesusnaloith:  i just need to be able to mount the drives lol.09:26
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mustard5stevejesus, its in the grub menu usually when you boot up09:26
naliothstevejesus: then get dsl09:26
stevejesusnaloith:  i mean do i really need the whole silly gnome live stuff?09:26
britishseapowernalioth: i have installed the w32 codec pack as per wiki09:26
stevejesusnaloith:  i have cable nalioth09:26
naliothbritishseapower: the later microsoft media wont play no matter what09:27
stevejesusnaloith:  i couldnt imagine updating over dialup.09:27
naliothstevejesus: then use prozilla and d/l a ubuntu livecd in >20min09:27
mustard5stevejesus, I'm on dialup :)09:27
stevejesusmastard5:  thanks ill check it out09:27
britishseapowernalioth: these are bog standard mps3.09:27
britishseapowernalioth: something is up i think...annoying as i just installed ubuntu and i really like it !09:28
naliothbritishseapower: have you installed gstreamer0.8-mad?09:28
britishseapowernalioth: looking forward to getting stuck in.09:28
stevejesusmastard5:  naolith thank you but i dont need all that crap to just login as root lol09:28
stevejesuswhoops09:28
stevejesuswrong person09:28
britishseapowernalioth: oh ? dont think so...lemme try...how do i do that ?09:28
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britishseapowerin apps/add ?09:28
britishseapoweror from command line ?09:28
naliothbritishseapower: you should read the multimedia page info ubotu sent you09:29
gigcsThank you. I have document InstallCDCustomizationHowTo .But I doubt ubuntu-keyring.09:29
britishseapowerk09:29
stevejesusmustard5:  here is the silly thing that i did.  i formatted the drive with ubuntu's (gnome's?)  partitioner and made the access point /home09:29
britishseapowerta09:29
britishseapoweri dint see it?09:29
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stevejesusmustard5:  as soon as the desktop refreshed, it was clear that my current homedir no longer existed.09:30
gigcsbecause i try make document wiki .09:30
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MrFartsanyone here running the version of firefox that comes stock with ubuntu ?09:30
gigcsI add package and test install.But i see error apt step fail .09:30
stevejesusmustard5:  ive got an idea.  i think i c an fix this09:31
mustard5stevejesus, ah ok interesting...09:31
naliothbritishseapower: do you have universe and multiverse repos enabled?09:31
mustard5stevejesus, whats the idea?09:31
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gigcsdoubt gpg sign ubntu-keyring.How To09:32
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stevejesusmustard5:  well, i suppose that my /home/stevejesus was only showing "lost$found" becuase it was already the new disk.  tahts why i could see my old one!  so im booting into recovery mode to edit my /etc/fstab.  becuase surely the files arent gone. then everything should work.  after that, i should consider doing this correctly. lol09:33
stevejesus*couldnt* see my old one09:34
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britishseapowernalioth: tis ok...back on track...09:35
DShepherdOK i'm having no luck with getting sound in flash09:35
DShepherdhelp09:35
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MrFartsanyone here running firefox under ubuntu ?09:35
britishseapowerthanks...following instructions...seeems like a right pallava to play a few mp3s?09:35
DShepherdMrFarts: yes09:35
DShepherdaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah09:35
michelhow can i listen to streaming audio?09:35
DShepherdneva mind09:35
DShepherdsound is here :)09:35
MrFartsDShepherd, can you use the quit option ?09:35
MrFarts:)09:35
stevejesusrebooting and crossing fingers09:36
MrFartsDShepherd, quit doesn't work for me09:36
londonboi2k3Hi ppl's, Now I dont want anyone to laugh at me, but I have a small problem, I have Windows Spyware installed on my computer, I have Crossover Office, install, and I acedentliy click on an exe file and it installed this rubbish, any ideas how I can get rid of it?09:36
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DShepherdMrFarts: yes it works fine for me09:36
michelhow can i listen to straming audio???09:36
MrFartsDShepherd, weird09:36
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michel???c can someone help or not?09:37
londonboi2k3michel, Streamcast?09:37
michelhow?09:37
zack_there is absolutely no way to run Photoshop on ubuntu is there ?09:37
MrFartsopen("/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/chrome/icons/default/commonDialog.xpm", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)09:37
MrFartsDShepherd, this is the strace output when i try to exit09:37
HappyFoollondonboi2k3: maybe ask in #winehq ?09:37
zack_beisdes WINE09:37
naliothlondonboi2k3: install clamav and scan your dirs09:37
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MrFartsany idea what commonDialog.xpm is ?09:38
stevejesusmichel:  what kind of streaming audio are you trying to listen to michel?09:38
mustard5stevejesus, sounds feasible :)09:38
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michel@ stevejesus ehm music09:38
DShepherdMrFarts: no clue...how long have you had the problem?09:38
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MrFartsDShepherd, as long as i've had ubunty09:38
MrFartswhich is about 1 hour09:38
stevejesusmichel:  heh?09:38
zack_anyone here run Wine?09:38
splinghello09:38
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stevejesusmustard5:  its back!09:38
micheli want to listen a internet radio09:39
DShepherdMrFarts: weird...have you tried reisntalling...09:39
DShepherd?09:39
naliothubotu: tell michel about multimedia09:39
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MrFartsDShepherd, i'm not going to re-install over a silly firefox problem09:39
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stevejesusmichel:  all you need is working audio.  do you have that?  if so try an app that will play the feeds.  i recomend amarok.09:39
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coronai often get this message while launchinh apps from shell: Qt:Locales not supported on Xserver any idea why?09:40
splingI just tried a live boot of ubuntu, but it failed09:40
DShepherdMrFarts: ok.....i meant,,,reinstall firefox09:40
stevejesusmichel:  grab the url for the radio station and put it in your amarok playlist09:40
MrFartsDShepherd, how can i do that ?09:40
naliothcorona: it happens to all of us, it can be ignored09:40
splingit said something about disconnecting from IRQ, and a bad controller09:40
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stevejesusmichel:  you can apt-get amarok.  if you need to know how to use amarok once its installed i can help you09:40
mustard5stevejesus, sounds good :)09:40
coronanalioth: ok09:41
MrFartsDShepherd, can you tell me if you have this file btw09:41
DShepherdMrFarts: sudo aptitude reinstall firefox09:41
MrFartsDShepherd, do you have the file: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/chrome/icons/default/commonDialog.xpm09:41
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stevejesusmustard5:  now that i have everything working, you wouldnt happen to know how to move your homedir to a different disk and use it do you?09:41
DShepherdMrFarts: nope09:42
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DShepherdMrFarts: default.xpm09:42
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MrFartsDShepherd, what is the difference between aptitude and apt-get ?09:42
stevejesusman nano really saved the day on that one whew!09:42
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DShepherdnot much...you can replace apt-get with aptitude09:42
naliothMrFarts: aptitude is a feature enriched console frontend to apt-get09:42
DSL3is there a way to save all of the options that are in my menuconfig for my kernel into a text file ?09:42
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DShepherdshow work09:43
mustard5stevejesus, I would create a mountpoint in /mnt with mkdir, mount the drive and cp the files and directories over from /home..09:43
MrFartsDShepherd, why do they both exist then ? :)09:43
stevejesusif i want to use a diferent homedir do i just need to set a different $HOME enviroment variable?09:43
DShepherdMrFarts: yeah..what nailoth siad09:43
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kestasuse chsh to make a permeanent home dir changbe09:43
DShepherdMrFarts: cause...Linux is alll about options :)09:43
KaoticEvilhow can i check what transfer mode my cdrom is using?09:44
stevejesusmustard5:  i wish it weere that simple09:44
HappyFoolstevejesus: what i'd do is create a new ext3 (or whatever) partition, copy /home across and mount /home at that new partition09:44
MrFartsDShepherd, one way to wipe your a** is generally enough09:44
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switchcat:(  my ubuntu keeps screwing up at different parts during the install. :(  I've seemingly made a few coasters already before I go and download the ISO again, can anybody make any suggestions on writing the ISO (right now using a winXP system) or figuring out if it's soething else wrong with the ubuntu install process?09:44
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rixthHow do I backup an entire MySQL database from the commandline?09:44
naliothubotu: tell switchcat about verify09:44
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DShepherdMrFarts: maybe for you....but others maybe want 3 different ways to wipe there...09:44
DShepherdthier*09:44
naliothswitchcat: check your md5 sums on the iso image09:44
kestasswitchcat, might be helpful to say where it screws up09:44
mustard5stevejesus, well I think the only mistake you made last time was not having your files from /home on the drive already09:44
HappyFoolMrFarts: apt-get is older, and still has some features (e.g., build-dep) which aptitude does not have. However, aptitude has some superior features, like removing unused packages, which apt-get does not have09:45
kestasisnt aptitude a front end to apt-get09:45
dleDoes anyone know anythin re authentication failures from apt-get, Breezy?09:45
MrFartsDShepherd, works now, although it's a bit disconcerting ...09:45
marlunIn windows I can have a resolution up to 1280x1024, how come I can't in ubuntu?09:45
naliothubotu: tell dle about gpgerr09:45
naliothmarlun: you can09:45
switchcatkestas - uhm in 'retrieving' different packages and stuff, on my first coaster it was at varying places, so I thought it might be dirt, on my second one, it's the kernel..09:45
marlunnalioth, how?09:46
kestasmarlun, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file where it lists the resolutions09:46
dlenalioth: Many thanks! :)09:46
MrFartsHappyFool, i see, thanks09:46
DShepherdMrFarts: ok...glad I could help09:46
stevejesusmustard5:  true.  also i didnt set the permissions properly.09:46
kestasswitchcat, well buy quality CD-Rs, check the md5 of the ISO, and burn at a low speed, 2x or 4x09:46
mustard5marlun, backup your xorg.conf before changing ;)09:47
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naliothmarlun: open a console and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg         and choose the rez you want (deselect the ones you dont)09:47
mustard5stevejesus, ah ok...09:47
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glickyo09:47
switchcatyeah right now it keeps wanting to use Sonic record now! and I can't find where it is supposed to let me change the burn speed... :(09:47
glickexcuse me i have a question09:47
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glickwhas the first preemptive linux kernel09:47
mustard5stevejesus, what permissions does it need?09:47
glick?09:47
MrFartsglick, what does that mean ?09:47
marlunis there a way I should backup a file (so it gets that ~) or should I just use cp?09:48
mustard5stevejesus, I'm probably not any better at this than you :)09:48
HappyFoolglick: i think you might want a more technical channel ;)09:48
stevejesusmustard5:  well its good to have a buddy here im on equal ground with: )09:48
KaoticEvilhow can i check what transfer mode my cdrom is using? (PIO or UDMA)09:48
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mustard5stevejesus, hehehe yeah09:48
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MrFartsKaoticEvil, hdparm ?09:48
glickMrFarts, a preemtive kernel is that after a certian time slice the kernel interrupts the current program and runs the schedular that decides what program to run next09:49
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kestasmarlun, try `sudo sed -ibak -e 's/"1024x768"/"1280x1024" "1024x768"/'`09:49
KaoticEvilMrFarts: doesnt give me transfer mode09:49
HappyFoolKaoticEvil: 'sudo hdparm -d /dev/<your dvd device here>'09:49
naliothmarlun: gedit provides the ~filenames09:49
MrFartsglick, umm, linux has always been preemptive09:49
KaoticEvilah, i didnt hve the -d.. ty09:49
glickin a non-preemtive kernel the program decides when it gives up the cp09:49
glickcpyu09:49
glickcpu09:49
DShepherdnalioth i got sound to work flash in firefox, but not epiphany browser,, I went using the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Any suggestions on what i need to do to get it runniing on epiphany?09:50
kestassudo sed -ibak -e 's/"1024x768"/"1280x1024" "1024x768"/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:50
glickMrFarts, i dont think so09:50
MrFartsglick, i'll bet anything on it09:50
HappyFoolglick: linux userspace is preempted; for hard real-time you'll need a patched kernel (RTAI or RTlinux)09:50
MrFartsglick, i bet you're confused about something09:50
KaoticEvilok.. now how would i go about setting it to use UDMA?09:50
MrFartsthere is no such thing as non-preemptive linux09:50
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glickyeah im playing with embedded linux for some hardware im developing09:50
MrFartsperhaps you are think about the kernel itself being preemptive09:50
MrFartsthinling09:50
naliothDShepherd: did you put your flash plugin in ~/.mozilla/plugins or /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/  ?09:50
britishseapowerthanks for help! working now :-).09:50
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MrFartsglick, there are version of linux in which the kernel may be, to varying degrees preempted09:50
britishseapowerubuntu looks lovely on my LCD09:50
glickMrFarts, linux wasnt always preemtive09:50
HappyFoolKaoticEvil: 'sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/<blah>'09:50
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mustard5stevejesus, so is it ext3 on that drive now?09:51
kestasbritishseapower, doesnt it though09:51
MrFartsglick, please stop trolling09:51
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HappyFoolKaoticEvil: read 'man hdparm' for much more09:51
glickMrFarts, im not trolling09:51
MrFartsglick, linux has been a preemptive system since the very earliest release09:51
KaoticEvilHappyFool: thanks :)09:51
MrFartsit's preemptive by design09:51
stevejesusmustard5:  yessir09:51
DShepherdnalioth libflash-mozplugin.so yes09:51
glickMrFarts, no i thnk preemtion wasnt a feature till the 2.2 release09:51
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MrFartsglick, ok, you're retarded09:52
marlunnalioth, argh, tested what you said first and now I'm supposed to fill in stuff I don't know :P09:52
DShepherdnalioth yes libflashplayer.so09:52
mustard5stevejesus, so what is your plan? :)09:52
MrFartsglick,  as i said, there is a difference between preempting the kernel and preempting an application09:52
naliothDShepherd: in your mozilla dir, not firefox dirs?09:52
MrFartsglick, this is probably what you are confused about since you are talking about embedded systems09:52
naliothmarlun: if you dont know, click through09:52
glickMrFarts, i got jesus on my side so you better be carefull or he will strike you with lighening!09:52
mustard5MrFarts, and glick try #ubuntu-offtopic for your discussion09:53
naliothmarlun: when you get the part about resolutions to use, the spacebar selects and deselects09:53
glickMrFarts, maybe09:53
DShepherdnalioth /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. that's where i am09:53
glickMrFarts, i am slightly drunk09:53
glicklol09:53
marlunnalioth, I have to find out how much memory my video card has ;P09:53
zack_anyone run Gimpshop?  or know if i can apt-get it?09:54
stevejesuswell, i suppose ill "attempt" to properly change permissions on the directory (drive).  and then edit my /etc/fstab/09:54
naliothDShepherd: then epiphany should be using them09:54
mustard5stevejesus, have you got the drive mounted on a different mount point?09:54
naliothmarlun: just click through09:54
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marlunnalioth, but theres no default value?09:55
DShepherdit doesnt seem to be....well it runs the video part of the flash....but not the sound part09:55
britishseapowerok...now i've got ubuntu up and running...some cool things to do with it ?09:55
kestasmarlun try sudo sed -ibak -e 's/"1024x768"/"1280x1024" "1024x768"/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:55
naliothmarlun: if you dont know what video ram your card has . . . .09:55
kestasmarlun, this 1 liner should do the trick09:55
gigcsquestion apt step fail .09:55
naliothkestas: he doesnt want any of those09:55
HappyFoolbritishseapower: what are your interests?09:55
mustard5stevejesus, ie make a directory in /mnt call it some random name and mount the drive on that directory?09:55
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kestasnalioth, what do you mean?09:55
stevejesuswell, its not currently moutned.  what i did before was add it to etc/fstab with mount-point /home  but it didnt have the proper permissions.09:55
marlunkestas, have to get through this first :P09:56
DShepherdnalioth it doesnt seem to be....well it runs the video part of the flash....but not the sound part09:56
kestashe wants to get more res, if he's using the right drivers then that line should do it09:56
roshanis there a good howto on adding swsusp2 functionality?09:56
DShepherdnalioth. it only worked for firefox when I did this... A different try: create ~/.mozilla/firefox/rc with the line FIREFOX_DSP="none".09:56
britishseapowerHappyFool: music, multimedia, dtp...09:56
stevejesusmustard5: well, i dont want to put it in moutn.  i want the mount point to be /home.  i believe is HAS to be that way in order to work anyhow09:56
naliothDShepherd: ah! that's another problem, that i havent seen a solution to09:56
kestasDShepherd, have you linked that esd.so file to the right one?09:57
HappyFoolbritishseapower: for dtp (desktop publishing, i presume), try Scribus09:57
stevejesusmustard5:  so first order of business is to backup my /home09:57
britishseapowerHappyFool: internet...bla bla...its nice...i have a gentoo samba server have setup a few shortcuts to ssh into that box and nautilus to get at the media...seems to work fine.09:57
mustard5stevejesus, eventually yes, but to transfer your $HOME over you will need to mount it on a different point first09:57
britishseapowerHappyFool: ok...ta09:57
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BlueEaglestevejesus: sudo nano /etc/fstab09:57
BlueEaglestevejesus: add the mount point09:57
stevejesusmustard5:  ah yes.. thank you.  ill do that noe.  that will make it easier.  doh.  shoulda thought of that09:57
DShepherdkestas: the sound works in firefox...just not epiphany. SO i would believe I did09:57
BlueEaglestevejesus: sudo mount /home09:57
HappyFoolbritishseapower: not sure about music; maybe audacity ? If you'd like to play with 3D animation, try blender09:57
marlunrebooting09:57
stevejesusBlueEagle:  we are past that.09:58
mustard5stevejesus, if you join #kubuntu-offtopic we can talk about it in a quieter channel :)09:58
naliothDShepherd: off topic. why are you using epiphany and not galeon?09:58
DShepherdbut it only worked when I added FIREFOX_DSP=none to the rc file09:58
stevejesusBlueEagle:  but i do need to change the permissions can you help me with that?09:58
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BlueEaglestevejesus: permission of what?09:58
DShepherdnalioth cause...cause......I dont know...options :)09:58
CarinArrbritishseapower, you can get some adobe and macromedia applications running using cxoffice as well09:58
stevejesusBlueEagle:  permissions of the... wait... haha.  never mind09:58
naliothDShepherd: galeon (imho) is a better gecko client than epiphany09:59
DShepherdkestas: but it only worked when I added FIREFOX_DSP=none to the rc file09:59
kestasDShepherd, well if it works then nm09:59
britishseapowerthanks...will have a play... v inpressive install...09:59
britishseapowerv easy compared to gentoo09:59
mustard5stevejesus, join #kubuntu-offtopc09:59
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DShepherdnalioth ok. but... i think galeon will have the same problem as epiphany09:59
stevejesusmustard5:  k, jus a sec09:59
michelhow to play dvd?10:00
mustard5stevejesus, k it's quieter in there ;)10:00
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HappyFooli suspect gentoo and ubuntu are aimed at quite different sets of users ;)10:00
stevejesusmustard5:  how do i do that.  im not to familiar with irc.10:00
Daemonicwhat must I install to be able to play .wmv's?10:00
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DaemonicCodecs?10:00
marlunGreat, now I have 1280x102410:00
naliothstevejesus: type /j #kubuntu-offtopic10:00
kestasI used gentoo for about a year before switching to ubuntu HappyFool so I dont think so really10:00
HappyFool!tell michel about dvd10:00
mustard5stevejesus, /join #kubuntu-offtopic10:00
naliothubotu: tell Daemonic about w32codecs10:00
kestasif you're implying ubuntu is for less tech savvy users10:00
BlueEagle!w32codecs10:00
ubotuit has been said that w32codecs is for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/10:00
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MrFartsgentoo is evil10:01
kestasmarlun, glad to hear it10:01
zack_anyone can follow gentoos manuals word for word10:01
zack_its just a matter if anyone wants to spend the time to do it10:01
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Germanhaving problems with tomboy, can anyone help me please??10:01
darksoulhey were is wines c:/ folder?10:01
BlueEaglemrfarts: ...because?10:01
HappyFoolkestas: the other way around; my impression (perhaps incorrect) is that gentoo is not for novices10:01
KaoticEvildarksoul: ~/.wine10:01
liablezack_: um, wrong channel, this is #ubuntu10:02
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oskudezack_, i nstalled and used gentoo for a month or so, but got bored to compile every update :)10:02
darksoulwere?10:02
zack_liable, i know, i was refering to other people talking about it10:02
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kestasdarksoul, depends where you configured it to be10:02
MrFartsBlueEagle, it's a fundamentally stupid idea10:02
kestasdarksoul, usually ~/.wine/fake_windows10:02
darksouli just installed it thru the package manager10:02
britishseapowerwow - err when i put a nautilus ssh link on my desktop its the acutual folder yeah ?10:02
britishseapowernot a lijnk ?10:02
marlunnalioth, kestas, thanks :)10:03
kestasdarksoul, try installing winesetuptk10:03
darksouli know..but i dont know were it is at all..i installed it thru the package manager lol10:03
MrFartsHappyFool, gentoo is for kids with too much time10:03
darksoulfine10:03
britishseapoweri errr...just tried to delete it ? is it a link ? how do i recreate it10:03
BlueEaglemrfarts: It is a fundamentally stupid idea to have a distro that forces people to learn a good deal about how linux works and make it much easier to change aspects of applications on your system?10:03
MrFartsBlueEagle, 1. if you want to learn how linux works, read a book10:03
kestasBlueEagle, I learnt a fair bit about linux from using gentoo, not as much as I did from reading some books and texts, but it's pretty good for learning it10:04
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michelubutu is not a unix system?10:04
britishseapowerits a "mounted volume" ?10:04
MrFartsBlueEagle, 2. as an extension of #1, configuring applications doesn't teach you about how linux works10:04
britishseapoweri cant delete its contents by deleting it right?10:04
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oskudemichel, ubuntu is GNU/Linux10:04
MrFartsBlueEagle, 3. a source-code based distribution is retarded. binary applications are a good idea10:04
oskudeoh, did i scare him/her :)10:04
MrFartsBlueEagle, 4. you don't need that extra 0.00001% of performance10:05
MrFartsBlueEagle, 5. that extra 0.000001% of performance will cause you possibly many headaches, especially with systems applications compiled with strange optimizations10:05
kestasmost important is that emerge is terribly unstable, having a whole distro on the bleeding edge is just a bad idea10:05
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oskudethere are benefits for both, dont start a flame-war...10:05
yahyais there a shortcut to open nautilus?10:06
MrFartskestas, i think gentoo is for dorks, honestly :)10:06
BlueEaglemrfarts: Arguments like "that and that is retarted" are not very productive. If you haven't got a good argument to back up your point there is no need to bring up that point. As for the 0.000001%, where do you get that number from?10:06
kestasApplications>File Manager I think10:06
kvidellhmm.. say I want to use vim and regex to clip timestamps wrapped in parenthesis off the front of lines of text...10:06
HappyFoolyahya: 'Places -> Home Folder' ?10:06
MrFartsBlueEagle, i just gave you 5 good arguments10:06
britishseapoweri wanna drag my hosts file to /etc with nautilus but i dont have permissions ? how do i do it ?10:06
kvidellwould that be.. :1,35s/\(*\)/ /10:06
kvidell?10:06
oskudei think he/she means key-shortcut ?10:06
MrFarts0.00001% was pulled out of my ass10:07
Daemonicare there any worthy replacements for firefox? it keeps freezing at random sites..10:07
MrFartsi've heard people claim certain "performance benefits" with gentoo10:07
MrFartsthe point is whatever "performance" you gain is going to be negligable10:07
HappyFoolbritishseapower: you can do Applications -> System tools -> Run as different user and run nautilus from there as root (not sure how good an idea that is)10:07
yahyaHappyFool: yeah, i mean keyboard shortcut10:07
oskudeDaemonic, could you give an url that freezes firefox ?10:07
Daemonicoskude, negative.10:07
oskudeDaemonic, oh sry, u said random10:07
kestaskvidell, dont think so10:08
Madpilotbritishseapower: lauch Naut from a terminal w/ "visudo nautilus"10:08
oskudeDaemonic, well, i dont have any freezes...10:08
britishseapowerHappyFool: ok..i'll do it on cammand line instead ! thanks. :-)10:08
naliothbritishseapower: learn the terminal10:08
kvidellhm.. yea, that doesn't work :-\10:08
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kestaskvidell, depends on the format of the timestamps10:08
kvidellit doesn't like the asteris10:08
naliothubotu: tell britishseapower about cli10:08
Madpilotbritishseapower: or "sudo cp <whatever>"10:08
britishseapowernalioth: i know terminal "ish"10:08
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BlueEaglemrfarts: I agree with you that reading a book is a better way to learn about linux. However for people not wanting to read a book installing Gentoo is a better alternative than installing fedora and just getting a different desktop. Configuring linux applications teaches you to some extent how those applications work. Just like setting up applications on other operating systems...10:08
kestaskvidell, but that regex should just replace an asterix with a space10:08
yahyaI liked Win+E on windows.. can't seem to get the Win key to act as a modifier in ubuntu10:08
britishseapowerwierd not having root account though10:08
DShepherdnalioth kestas ahh  just as I thought. at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats tells you you can trying add the FIREFOX_DSP="none" line to ~/.mozilla/firefox/rc file. When I comment it out...it doesnt work, when i uncomment it works...10:08
kvidell(04:34:22) <kvidell> ee eee eeeeee10:08
naliothbritishseapower: opening gui apps with superuser priveleges is "Not A Good Thing"10:08
kvidellfor example10:09
oidiaAnyone knows how to use socks proxies with xchat?10:09
britishseapowersu -s ?10:09
kvidellactually, it just deleted half the file10:09
HappyFoolyahya: best i can offer is  System -> Prefs -> Keyboard Shortcuts, and enable the 'Home Folder' shortcut. There may be a (much) better option10:09
britishseapowernalioth: i wont do it then10:09
britishseapowerwhat the command to go to superuser on command line10:09
naliothbritishseapower: no su, use sudo10:09
kestaskvidell, hrmmm well Im more familiar with sed than vim so Ill try and make a regex for sed10:09
kestaskvidell, heheh ouch10:09
naliothbritishseapower: sudo command target10:09
kestaskvidell, hope you can get it back10:09
kvidelloh, that'll work.10:09
oidiabritishseapower: sudo -s ?10:09
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kvidellyea, I just :q!'d then opened it again, lol10:09
britishseapowersudo -s...10:09
britishseapowerthats it...thanks10:09
DShepherdnalioth kestas now my guess is that I need to enter an entry for epiphany and gaelon too.... Any ideas how that would look?10:09
BlueEaglemrfarts: Distributing applications as source code is pretty standard in the linux community. A distro that is faster than another distro on a server may reduce the total cost of hardware needed in ie. a cluster. Overtuning anything might cause it to break and thus it is not recomended for people not knowing what they are doing.10:10
naliothbritishseapower: sudo -i is preferable10:10
naliothDShepherd: ~/.epiphany/blah?10:10
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BlueEaglemrfarts: You had one good argument, but the argument about something being "retarted" nullified the karma gained. :)10:11
oskudeIf you enjoy what you do, you'll never work another day in your life. :)10:11
MrFartsBlueEagle, source is nice to have, but you don't want to see it in every case10:12
MrFartsBlueEagle, it's good as option, not as a default package format10:12
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DShepherdnalioth thanks...but i mean....the entry in the RC file..what would that look like....EPIPHANY_DSP?10:12
emurzHello, How can I install the ATI 9200 drivers for ubuntu?10:12
kestaskvidell, its not elegant but it should work10:13
kestassed -i.bak -e 's/^([0-9] [0-9] :[0-9] [0-9] :[0-9] [0-9] )//' blah.file10:13
oskudeemurz, i got the same card :) (but havent installed drivers yet)10:13
naliothDShepherd: perhaps put "epiphany_dsp" into google and see what comes up10:13
emurzoskude, I installed it once for debian, it worked fine10:13
DShepherdnalioth did that already,,,nothing10:13
britishseapowernalioth: -i ?10:14
britishseapowernalioth: what difference ?10:14
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MrFartsBlueEagle, i can think of one good application for gentoo: using it as a system for creating your own binary distribution for a large custom installation10:14
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oskudeemurz, i allso installed the official ati drivers under hoary once... worked10:14
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naliothbritishseapower: -i is 'interactive' and is more useful10:15
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britishseapowernalioth: k..ta10:15
HappyPillsI was wandering if anyone has had much success with wpa_supplicant, I can't get it to load on startup correctly =(10:16
kestasoh FUCKING COLD10:16
kestaswater is dripping out of every hole in my face10:16
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kestasbuuuughhhh10:17
BlueEaglemrfarts: That would also be a good use. Also I agree with you that Gentoo would be for people interested in it. For a desktop distribution it's not very good. Especially not if you plan to use KDE. I've compiled QT for hours on end. That's no fun at all. :)10:17
MrFartskestas, you have holes in your face ?10:17
britishseapowerdamn - i updated my hosts and now i cant get su ! "sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()"10:17
HappyPillshe made them10:17
britishseapoweri got a backup hosts but i cant get to it ?10:17
emurzis xorg better than xfree86?10:17
MrFartsBlueEagle, perhaps i'm just bitter though; i inherited a network full of gentoo machines. i hate it10:17
britishseapowerwhat i do now ?10:17
naliothkestas: dude, watch the language please (and the caps)10:17
travelleri installed webmin but i can't access it, is there anything i'm missing?10:17
naliothbritishseapower: dont use su10:17
gigcscommand gpg  check package have sign ?10:18
naliothbritishseapower: this is ubuntu, not debian or redcrap10:18
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oskudebritishseapower, ive heard about that "sudo gethostbyname" search in ubuntuforums.org10:18
kestasnalioth, i'b borry10:18
HappyFoolbritishseapower: i think the only option is to boot into recovery mode10:18
BlueEaglemrfarts: Then again I came from an RPM-based distro before trying gentoo and not having to hunt down missing libs on my own made life soo much easier. However after trying Ubuntu I do think it's "a bettery way"(tm)10:18
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naliothHappyFool: yes, boot through recovery mode and put your hostname back in your hosts file10:18
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MrFartsBlueEagle, fedora has something called "yum"10:18
britishseapowerballs.10:19
MrFartsBlueEagle, which does something similar to what ubuntu does with apt-get10:19
HappyFoolnalioth: i think he's changing hostname. britishseapower: make sure /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts have matching entries10:19
britishseapowerHappyFool: sounds like a nightmare..10:19
britishseapowerHappyFool: will do though10:19
britishseapowerback later...10:19
DShepherdnalioth well galeon has the same problem...10:19
HappyFoolbritishseapower: i did exactly that on friday ;)10:19
oskudeisnt that a bug ? why should u need to reboot to recovery mode to change /etc/hosts ?10:19
kestasthat also happened to me10:19
britishseapowerand i need to add "127.0.0.1 ubuntu" to top of hosts file i guess ?10:19
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kestasused the live cd10:19
MrFartsBlueEagle, i think ubuntu is more suitable for a server installation though, which is why i am playing with it10:19
DShepherdnalioth it has something to do with DSP being off when firefox runs......10:19
naliothDShepherd: i dont run flash things (even on my OSX, where it actually works)10:19
naliothDShepherd: ubuntu is rife with sound problems10:20
MrFartsit's either that or CentOS, but the release cycle on CentOS is way too slow10:20
naliothubotu: tell DShepherd about sound10:20
oskudeMrFarts, i would ALLWAYS use Debian over Ubuntu for servers...10:20
HappyFoolbritishseapower: i'm not sure of the precise issue, but just make sure everything matches10:20
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kestasoskude, debian is too unstable though really10:20
MrFartsoskude, unfortunately, debian is out of the question -- the software library is way too out of date10:20
kestasunless youre using 2.0 kernel bleah10:20
oskudekestas, unstable ? lol10:21
DShepherdnalioth. ok tell me this...the rc file. what does rc mean?10:21
MrFartsoskude, and using testing or unstable or whatever it's called sort of negates the purpose10:21
oskudeMrFarts, out of date, maybe, but stable10:21
naliothDShepherd: i've not figured that out yet, which is crazy seein how long i've been using *nix10:21
MrFartsoskude, i need something reasonably not out of date; we depend on a lot of newer software unfortunately10:21
kestasbtw about your gentoo is bad because it compiles from source10:21
KaoticEvilResourCe, maybe?10:21
kestasfreebsd compiles from source and its damn good10:21
DShepherdnalioth that's ok....I understand10:22
HappyFoolDShepherd, nalioth: possibly 'resource configuration'10:22
MrFartskestas, freebsd does not compile from source10:22
oskudeMrFarts, any you dont just upgrade every half year...10:22
KaoticEvilthere we go...10:22
kestasMrFarts, it does10:22
MrFartskestas, it has a ports system but you can get binaries as well10:22
DShepherdHappyFool: sounds sensible :)10:22
naliothDShepherd: if you find out, let me know, please10:22
kestasMrFarts, the binary package system is terrible compared to ports10:22
DShepherdnalioth ok10:22
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kestasMrFarts, pretty much everyone who uses freebsd uses ports, I use it and it's very stable, makes me wonder why gentoo is so unstable really10:23
kestasgentoo always messed up during updates, but freebsd never has for me10:23
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henningihello, does enyone know where I can find the "java-package"  in breezy?, what is the apt source?10:23
michelik kan geen audio openen10:23
MrFartsoskude, what do you tink is running with running ubuntu as a server ?10:23
MrFartser, is wrong10:23
KaoticEvilbrb10:24
MrFartsit seems to have a minimal installation option, the software that is included is known to be stable10:24
MrFartsseems ok to me10:24
oskudeMrFarts, me no comprende...10:24
michelhow i can play mp3's o always get a message that it cant10:24
MrFartsosfameron, yo no comprendo you mean ? :)10:24
HappyFoolhenningi: it's in the universe repository10:25
HappyFoolmichel: you need to install mp3 software10:25
michelxmms?10:25
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HappyFoolhm. i thought xmms came with mp3 support10:25
Madpilot!tell michel about mp310:26
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emurzis it better to enable "kernel framebuffer device interface" or to turn it off?10:26
DShepherdnalioth adding EPIPHANY_DSP to the rc file doesnt seem to work?10:26
HappyFoolin hoary one needed to set xmms's 'output plugin' to esd10:26
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DShepherdnalioth do you know how I can kill dsp manually?10:26
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MrFartsemurz, do you need a kernel framebuffer ?10:26
naliothDShepherd: hunt it down using ps aux10:26
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nalioth|grep dsp10:27
DShepherdok10:27
emurzI don't know whether it helps10:27
HappyFooldoes the splashscreen use the framebuffer?10:27
MrFartsemurz, do you want pretty graphics on the console ?10:27
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emurzI'm using kubuntu here10:27
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DShepherdI dont see it10:27
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oskudeis kubuntu a own distribution or is it just a package ?10:27
DShepherdnalioth I dont see it running 'dsp'10:27
LootBeerhow do u mount a cd of mp3's in linux?10:28
HappyFoolemurz: i don't recommending using a custom kernel unless you have a specific need to10:28
oskudeLootBeer, mount /media/cdrom0 :)10:28
naliothDShepherd: /msg ubotu sound10:28
HappyFooloskude: it's part of ubuntu. The package 'kubuntu-desktop' will get you kubuntu on gnome-ubuntu system10:29
LootBeeri tried it.. but it say too many filesystem? why?10:29
oskudeLootBeer, what i wanted to say, is, you mount like any other data cd10:29
oskudeLootBeer, hmm10:29
oskudeHappyFool, thnx10:29
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oskudedoes fdisk work on cdrom ?10:30
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henningiHappyFool: thanks, but I cant find it in the norweginan universe repository "deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe" I will try to switch10:30
HappyFoolfdisk only works only on partitionable devices, i believe10:30
HappyFoolhenningi: doh!10:30
oskudeLootBeer, how does your /media/cdrom0 line look like in /etc/fstab ?10:30
HappyFoolhenningi: my apologies. I meant multiverse10:31
DShepherdnalioth why do you like gaelon again?10:31
LootBeermount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom,10:31
LootBeer       or too many mounted file systems10:31
HappyFoolhenningi: clearly i need coffee10:31
DShepherdepiphany seems nice to me IMHO10:31
naliothDShepherd: more features and gtk2 (imho)10:31
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DShepherdnalioth*nicer10:31
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DShepherdnaliothok10:31
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HappyFoolLootBeer: what mount command are you using?10:31
britishseapowerif i get the musci player to scan my share - it wont edit any of my tags or touch the files on the share at all ?10:32
oskudeLootBeer, did you try "mount /media/cdrom0" and not "mount /media/cdrom0" ?10:32
oskudeLootBeer, hups10:32
britishseapoweri imagine it just creates its own database ?10:32
oskudeLootBeer, ment not "mount /media/cdrom"10:32
henningiHappyFool: Hah, that worked great :) thanks10:33
britishseapowerif i get the music player to scan my share - it wont edit any of my tags or touch the files on the share at all ?10:33
britishseapoweri imagine it just creates its own database ? that right?10:33
HappyFoolbritishseapower: as far as i know rhythmbox doesn't change the files10:33
HappyFoolbritishseapower: try mounting the share read-only if you're concerned10:33
britishseapowergood one10:33
oskudeHappyFool, or lets ask so, have you succesfully mounted ANY cds under your linux ? if so, could u open that mp3 cd with the same procedure ?10:34
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mommerso, how do I get mp3 support under ubuntu? totem says no banana...10:34
gigcsmake distro ubuntu10:34
oskudeLootBeer, , or lets ask so, have you succesfully mounted ANY cds under your linux ? if so, could u open that mp3 cd with the same procedure ?10:34
gigcsredistro ubuntu10:34
oskudeHappyFool, sry, wrong man :)10:34
Madpilot!tell mommer about mp310:34
britishseapowerHappyFool: rythmbox though...not amarok10:35
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oskudesilence ?10:36
oskudeenjoying the silence... :)10:36
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AndypooEvening.10:36
oskudegoo'day10:37
mommerMadpilot: thanks!10:37
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oskudeam i lagging or is here really silence... ?!10:38
ompaulshhhh10:39
oskudeO.o10:39
sneakyif i want to play mp3 i alway get the message, control is youre soudcard is installed corectly,10:39
ompaul:-)10:39
oskudesneaky, close the message and press play ?10:40
sneakycant10:40
oskudesneaky, hmm10:40
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sneakyi get the message then10:40
oskudesneaky, do you get audio form other sound files / programs ?10:41
sneakyno i have just x-chat on10:41
oskudesneaky, so you newer played any sound ? did you hear the ubuntu start sound ?10:42
switchcattried to change my burning speed, either it didn't burn at that speed, or it just didn't work. :( downloading via torrent this time.10:42
sneakyno10:42
sneakynever heard somethin i have a fresh install ubuntu10:42
oskudesneaky, is the sound maybe just muted ? check the "speaker" icon on your gnomepanel (upper-right)10:43
sneakyits not muted10:44
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DShepherdwell nalioth firefox works.....and nothing else for now....man...pity these things dont work out of the box...oh well..10:44
naliothDShepherd: it'll get better. sound has always been an issue in ubuntu10:44
oskudesneaky, hmm, thats was the reason i changed from debian to ubuntu (audio WAS regonized/configured automaticly) :)10:45
emurzoskude, I got it installed :)10:45
oskudesneaky, so cant help you much :(10:45
DShepherdnalioth always.....mann....I hope that changes pretty soon10:45
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emurzoskude, display: :0.0  screen: 010:45
emurzOpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.10:45
emurzOpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9200 Series DDR Generic10:45
emurzOpenGL version string: 1.3.1010 (X4.3.0-8.16.20)10:45
naliothemurz: what part of the /topic did you miss?10:45
sneakyi dont have any sound :(10:45
emurzthe lines ? :)10:45
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oskudeemurz, nice, what tut did you use ? or the form ati.com site ?10:46
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DShepherdnalioth anyways...I am way pass my bed time. thanks for the advice,, later10:46
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darksoulhas anyone got counter strike source to run on wine?10:46
adriyelnalioth, main issue I have with sound atm, is that I have to bugger with it to get doom3/quake4 sound working (oss?) and my sound in flash/firefox doesn't owkr10:46
naliothDShepherd: sleep well10:46
adriyelwork10:46
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emurznalioth, I know that one can post up to 4 lines10:46
naliothubotu: tell adriyel about sound10:46
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naliothemurz: did you read the /topic?10:46
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adriyelyou used the bot :(10:46
emurzoskude, nope, the fglrx modules10:46
naliothemurz: 4 lines x 586 people is quite nasty10:47
naliothemurz: please use a pastebin10:47
emurzsure10:47
oskudeemurz, ok, could you post glxgears fps ? and cpu :)10:47
emurzsure10:47
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emurzhow can I post the cpu?10:48
oskudeemurz, or was it fglr_gears or something else...10:48
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emurzfglrxgears10:48
emurzerm10:48
Daemonicis there a limewire package available?10:48
emurzglxgears10:48
oskudeemurz, i ment how fast is your cpu ? ghz ?10:48
adriyelis dapper drake going to involve working on the sound issues?10:48
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oskudeemurz, cat /proc/cpuinfo10:49
emurzoskude, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4462 / CPU:3GHz10:49
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oskudeemurz, roger, thnx a much :)10:49
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emurzyou're welcome =] 10:49
oskudeemurz, WOOAAAH :)10:49
snadgeshould i upgrade my laptop to breezy from hoary? ;)10:49
emurznice fps right :P10:49
oskudeemurz, i got a crappy 1.2ghz duron :(10:50
emurzmy monitor s0x0rz tho10:50
oskudeemurz, remember having something at 500fps10:50
emurzI'm working on 60Hz monitor10:50
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oskudeemurz, ouch10:50
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kvidellkestas: thanks! worked like a charm :) (Sorry, I got beckoned by the fiance.)10:51
emurznalioth, do you know where can I download eric from?10:51
xxenonI have problems with fonts rendering in flash pages (firefox). No fonts get displayed. Any clue ?10:51
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oskudeemurz, btw. did you follow this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?10:51
naliothemurz: what is 'eric' ?10:51
emurznalioth, it's an IDE for python10:52
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DragoraNhi!10:52
naliothemurz: it is in the repos10:52
naliothemurz: use synaptic10:52
DragoraNis it possible to lock touchpad on notebook when usb mouse is connected?10:52
emurznope, I cannot find it10:52
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emurzit's in the debian repos, I cannot find it in ubuntu's one10:53
snadgeok i take it no response means i should upgrade my laptop from hoary to breezy :P10:53
ilba7rsnadge it has a little better hardware support other than that its not that big leep10:53
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mikalIs there any way to disable uhci and ohci during boot of the live cd?10:53
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emurzoskude, I followed some article in ubuntu's forums. I think I got the same commands in the article you posted.10:53
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oskudesnadge, im allso "delaying" my notebook update from hoary to breezy :)10:53
oskudeemurz, roger10:53
ilba7rsnadge but from what i understand also to upgrade ot any new release you have to go through all inbetween releases of upgrade10:54
snadgei have10:54
snadgedid that last night10:54
adriyelnalioth,10:54
adriyelffs man10:54
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kestaskvidell, glad to hear it10:54
adriyelI offered to stop long before, and he didn't shut up10:54
snadgeim gonna do it.. at 128kbps.. woo10:54
kestas:)10:54
emurzoskude, are you using gnome?10:54
adriyelunban me please10:54
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adriyeln/m10:55
naliothadriyel: join #kubuntu-offtopic please10:55
oskudeemurz, yes10:55
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emurzoskude, ah, I'm using kubuntu here10:55
DragoraNis it possible to lock touchpad on notebook when usb mouse is connected?10:55
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oskudeemurz, kde is too "overlbown" for me, but as i heard kde can that osx "app-menu in top-panel" im thinking on kde :)10:56
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javier_h all,how can i see the *.wmv files on ubnutu?? i cant open them using totem nor mplayer10:57
oskudeive heard that when "drake" is out, the upgrade frequency will lower ?10:57
robotgeekubotu: tell javier_ about w32codecs10:57
naliothubotu: tell javier_ about w32codecs10:57
adriyelnalioth, beat me to it :)10:57
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naliothoskude: that is incorrect. ubuntu releases every 6 months10:57
ilba7ris drake the new release?10:58
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MisterFartsnalioth, how long are security updates provided ?10:58
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adriyelMisterFarts, I think 1 1/2 years...is that right guys?10:59
oskudenalioth, and drake will ubgrade every ? months ? or is this still speculation ?10:59
HappyFooladriyel: indeed. dapper drake will have a longer support period, however10:59
adriyelHappyFool, is drake a sort of milestone?10:59
javier_thx for the information guys10:59
adriyelHappyFool, I wasn't aware of any peculiar emphasis10:59
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naliothMisterFarts: oskude: security will be provided for years afterward for dapper, and only security updates will follow the final release11:00
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naliothadriyel: dapper drake is ubuntu 6.0411:00
MisterFartsnalioth, i'm not talking about dapper11:00
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javier_i have another problem: i have a webcam, and it has the light as if it were on, but i just cant find any program to control it, can u plz help me???11:00
MisterFartsnalioth, if i were to install ubuntu 5.10 right now, how long would i get security updates ?11:00
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adriyelnalioth, I'm aware of this...are the 04's going to be the milestones?11:01
adriyelMisterFarts, until 1.4 years from now11:01
HappyFool18 months from release, so 17 months11:01
naliothMisterFarts: 18 months11:01
oskudenalioth, i ment "apt-get upgrade" not "apt-get update" ...11:01
naliothadriyel: they are all milestones11:01
MisterFartsnalioth, i see; is it possible to upgrade between ubuntu versions live ?11:01
adriyelok, let me check real quick, is there any emphasis on drake?11:01
naliothoskude: after an ubuntu version finals, only security updates are officially provided11:01
naliothMisterFarts: live?11:01
HappyFooladriyel: i'm looking for the article i was thinking of... stand by11:02
MisterFartsnalioth, yes, on a running system11:02
naliothadriyel: not emphasis at all, it's just the next version of ubuntu11:02
adriyel*nods*11:02
adriyelI believe I understand now11:02
naliothMisterFarts: of course it is, that is the beauty of a debian based system (apt-get)11:02
adriyelwhat time is it right now for everybody? it is 5:02am EST here11:02
gigcs sign the release file using HowTo11:02
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oskude1103 hours11:03
ilba7radriyel hi 5:02 am here too11:03
MisterFartsnalioth, ok, so after 1.5 years, i should be able to pretty mainlessly migrate to the current version of ubuntu ?11:03
adriyelMisterFarts, yes11:03
MisterFartsadriyel, thanks11:03
penguinzdrit is 12:03 EET11:03
adriyelapt-get is beautiful, even if you didn't choose ubuntu, I'd highly recommend a .deb/apt-get based system11:03
naliothMisterFarts: it's preferable to upgrade to the next contiguous release11:03
oskudeMisterFarts, well, apt-get upgrade didnt work on debian "100%" neither, so...11:03
adriyelapt-get is what made me switch completely to Linux11:03
RegextedBasicly a debian system11:04
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MisterFartsi'm looking at what debian-stable has in it, but it seems way too conservative unfortunatley :L(11:05
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oskudeMisterFarts, like what ?11:05
yahyahow can i make the sudo time more than 15 minutes?11:05
oskudeMisterFarts, nvm, would be off-topic :)11:05
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MisterFartsoskude, older development tools, older kernel (not sure i care to much about that though)11:05
HappyFooladriyel: here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperGoals  -- 6.04 will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, 5 on server11:06
adriyelwow.11:06
adriyellong support schedule11:06
oskudewhy do all think olde=bad ? u know what software was used to fly in to the space ? :)11:06
hnsyahya: don' t, 15 minutes is already too long11:06
adriyelMisterFarts, Ubuntu Server is certainly stable11:06
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MisterFartsadriyel, that's what i'm leaning towards right now ...11:06
naliothin linux stability is treasured over 'bling'11:07
HappyFooloskude: feel free to code in Fortran-77 if you like old ;)11:07
yahyahns:  i'll reset it to 15 once i'm done tinkering around :P11:07
adriyelif you want bling, turn meterosexual and buy a mac.11:07
hnsok, wait11:07
adriyel(sorry, had to)11:07
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MisterFartsadriyel, i want what is useful for development, easy to maintain, and generally as painless as possible11:08
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michelcan someone help me oout with my sound?11:08
eXistenZis it preffered to use the w32codecs for mp3 support or the gstreamer plugins?11:08
HappyFoolhave you seen the list of screensavers that comes with ubuntu? plenty of bling there :P11:08
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redduck666on every distro so far i could mount my usb key with mount /dev/sda1 /key, while ubuntu says i need to specify a file system type. i tried adding -t usbfs and -t vfat, but no luck. any help appreciated11:08
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hnsyahya: put this line in your sudiers file and change the zero in what you want: Defaults timestamp_timeout = 011:09
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HappyFooleXistenZ: for normal mp3 sound, you should not need w32codecs11:09
eXistenZHappyFool, normal mp3 sound?11:09
naliotheXistenZ: the gstreamer and liblame11:09
HappyFoolmichel: what's the problem?11:09
micheli cant play anny sound/mp311:09
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eliDoes anyone know of a console-based audo player that will play internet radio stations?11:09
HappyFooleXistenZ: as opposed to weird and wonderful microsoft audio/video codecs11:09
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HappyFoolmichel: what application are you trying to use?11:09
michelxmms11:10
MisterFartsdoes MS actually have its own codecs  ?11:10
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michelto play mp311:10
redduck666eli, mp3blaster can do that. even mplayer can do it11:10
siimoMisterFarts, yes11:10
MisterFartsi thought they just have wrappers around stuff11:10
HappyFoolmichel: ok, what happens when you try to play a song?11:10
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eliok.. greatt.  i'll check 'em out. thanks.11:11
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siimomichel, try beep-media-player GTK2 version of xmms works great11:11
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oskuderedduck666, my flash is mounted through fstab on a normal directory in /mnt11:11
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michel1 if i  gonfigure my soundcard right, 2 did i use the ritght plugin 3 is there an other program taht blocks my soundcard11:11
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HappyFoolmichel: ok, let's test a simple sound first11:13
siimomichel, how do we know? does sound work at all, how about at GDM login11:13
redduck666oskude, thanks will try it11:13
HappyFoolmichel: are you running ubuntu 5.10 ? (breezy badger)11:13
michelyes11:13
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siimomichel, so sound works?11:14
michelno11:14
HappyFoolmichel: yes to me or siimo? ;)11:14
siimoto you.11:14
micheli use ybuntu 5.10, breezy badger, sound doesnt work at all11:14
naliothubotu: tell michel about sound11:15
siimomichel, i suggest you use ubuntu device database in system tools11:15
siimoit checks out sound11:15
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HappyFoolmichel: ok. can you paste the output of 'aplay -l' to the pastebin ? (paste.ubuntulinux.nl)11:15
michelhow i do that11:15
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comscan someone help me with synaptics touchpad under unbuntu (2.6.12)11:16
HappyFoolmichel: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal11:16
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micheland then11:16
HappyFoolmichel: a terminal is like the windows command prompt. type 'aplay -l' and press enter. Then, do *not* paste here...11:17
HappyFoolmichel: instead, point your browser to paste.ubuntulinux.nl and copy-and-paste the output to that page11:17
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comsNewbie needs help with Touchpad config with kernel 2.6... i can't disable the tap-click11:18
michelmichel@ubuntu:~$ applay -l'11:18
michel>11:18
micheli get this11:18
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Hentai^XP2oh no11:18
HappyFool*sigh*11:18
Hentai^XP2lol11:18
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HappyFoolmichel: ah, ok, no paste11:18
HappyFoolmichel: no quotes.   just     aplay -l11:18
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HappyFoolmichel: type '<enter> to make the   '>' prompt end11:19
michelno soundcard found11:19
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HappyFoolah11:19
bluebloodAnyone got the Need for speed: MW demot working ? :)11:20
siimomichel, do you know what snd card you have11:20
michelonboard11:20
michelno i dont know11:20
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siimomichel, do you have ubuntu live cd . or even better knoppix11:20
HappyFoolmichel: looks like you'll need to read these pages: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection11:20
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Tirnohi there, I'm trying to use abc2ps but it thinks the entries are in latin-1 when they are actually in utf-8. Do I need to convert my text file, or can I use some sort of command prefix? (plain text is encoded in utf-8; the program creates ps and assumes latin-1)11:21
michelsimo i dont have11:21
michel@ windows it worked:p11:21
Tirnoany suggestions?11:21
HappyFoolhmm. that second one is not terribly useful for solving your problem in the short term11:21
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coms[REQ HELP]  I need some help configuring the synapitcs touchpad on a laptop ... some "known issues" i can't resolve...11:22
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yahyahns:  thanks11:23
hnswelcome11:23
Tony_SidawayHmm, got a problem.  If I do "ps e" I see tty1 to tty6 running gettys, and pts/1, which is running X.  And when I'm in the boot sequence I can switch from tty1 to tty2 and so on by using Ctrl-Alt-F1.11:23
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HappyFoolmichel: you can try following the instructions on DebuggingSoundProblems (under 'Contributed by Carl Karsten')11:23
coms[REQ HELP]  I need some help configuring the synapitcs touchpad on a laptop ... some "known issues" i can't resolve...11:24
Tony_SidawayBut when I'm in X, I can't get out using those key combinations.11:24
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splingI'm having an installation problem with a LiveCD boot of ubuntu11:24
splingI have some errors that it gave me copied down.11:24
robotgeekTony_Sidaway: that works too, try using something else.../etc/xmodmap.conf11:24
splingCan anyone help me out?11:24
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comsAnyone had issues with Synaptics touchpad on their laptop??11:25
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HappyFoolTirno: have you tried using gedit to convert the encoding? under the 'Save As' dialog there's a character-coding selection11:25
Tony_Sidawayrobotgeek, thanks. I think this is a side effect of my migrating from Debian Sarge to Ubunu Breezy using apt-get dist-upgrade.  Nearly everything works perfectly, or can be made to do so, but this one evades me so far.  Thanks I'll look at /etc/xmodmap.conf11:25
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Tony_Sidaway# ls /etc/xmodmap.conf11:26
Tony_Sidawayls: /etc/xmodmap.conf: No such file or director11:26
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Tony_Sidawayrobotgeek, is that the right filename?  If so I'll have to find the package it belongs to and reinstall.11:27
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robotgeekTony_Sidaway: yeah, i guess u need to install it. sorry11:27
Tony_Sidawayrobotgeek, that's great news!11:27
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LasseLTony_Sidaway, a little warning: i don't think that ubuntu will load your xmodmap.conf file automatically, even if you create it11:28
robotgeekTony_Sidaway: you'l have to run it with your session file. or run xmodmap manually11:29
Tony_SidawayLasseL, thanks.  I'll have to work out how a stock ubuntu install makes it happen.11:29
LasseLrobotgeek, i do what robotgeek suggests11:29
robotgeekLasseL: :)11:30
comsI'm a newbie and i need help patching the kernel...11:30
comshelp11:30
coms:)11:30
comsanyone willing to help11:32
coms?11:32
Tony_Sidawayrobotgeek, oh I can do it in a shellscript /etc/X11/gdm/PostLogin/Default11:32
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michelwas the site to troubleshoot sound?11:32
TirnoHappyFool: yeah, could convert my plain text file to latin1 no problem, but I'd like to have everything on my box utf-8 if possible11:32
Tony_SidawayProbably where I'd want it because it's a universal key mapping11:32
robotgeekTony_Sidaway: or bring it up with /etc/init.d/ :)11:33
HappyFoolmichel:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems11:33
HappyFoolTirno: i meant as a temporary measure. this is something you'll need to do often?11:33
comsNeed help with Config of touchpad11:34
coms!!11:34
ubotuI heard ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me11:34
comscan anyone see me?11:34
HappyFoolcoms: if anyone is able and willing, they'll respond. have you looked at the kernelhowto on the wiki?11:35
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naliothcoms: yes we see you. nobody has an answer for you now11:35
comsHappyFool, nalioth . thanks for acking me :)11:35
robotgeekTony_Sidaway: scratch what i said..you need to bring it up after X comes up.so, your approach is better11:36
comsnalioth, i never asked for specific help on a chan, so i don't know how scarse the responses are11:36
comsHappyFool,  i haven't read them...11:36
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michelstill i have no sound,. but ut found a soundcard11:38
michel;11:39
comsHappyFool, the howto isnt very helpful... it's a bit beyond me. The instructions i have are a kernel patch and don't use the same commands as in the howto11:41
splingCan anyone help me install ubuntu? I run into a problem when it tries to run /etc/hotplug/usb.rc - it hangs and wont go any further11:41
splingCould it be because I have my mouse plugged in or something?11:42
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HappyFoolcoms: kernel compilation is relatively complicated, unfortunately11:42
MisterFartscoms, why are you compiling a kernel ?11:42
comsHappyFool, yeah i kindda expecting that..11:43
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comsHappyFool, MisterFarts, i'm not compiling the kernel.. i'm just trying to apply a patch for a touchpad11:43
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robotgeekcoms: aren't there directions to apply the patch? from where you obtained the patch?11:44
MisterFartscoms, is the patch to kernel source ?11:44
comsHappyFool, MisterFarts , the command is: gunzip name_name_of_patch | patch -p111:44
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MisterFartscoms, what does this patch do ?11:44
MisterFartscoms, and where did you get it ?11:44
comsMisterFarts, it makes the touchpad work :)11:44
MisterFartscoms, who provides this patch ?11:44
Boobekhi11:45
comsMisterFarts, i didn't download it.. or maybe i did.. it's just in /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-synaptcs/patch11:45
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MisterFartscoms, this is most likely part of the kernel source you have installed11:45
naliothcoms: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowto11:45
MisterFartscoms, this patch is almost surely already in the running kernel11:45
comsnalioth, thank you11:45
comsMisterFarts, yes.. that's what i was telling myself11:46
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comsnalioth, MisterFarts .. i'll read the Synaptics howto and see if it's useful.. i'll get back to you.. thanks for the help11:47
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MisterFartscoms, there's not much to do there; just looks like you need to load an X.org module11:48
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splingRunning /etc/hotplug/usb.rc11:49
spling[4294674.594000]  ohci_hcd 0000:00:13.1: unlink after no-IRQ? Controller is probably using the wrong IRQ.11:49
spling- Install hangs here -11:49
splingCan anyone help me with this??11:50
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bluebloodAnyone got tips for links to read about how to code in linux? How to compile, how to use makefiles? Just want simple examples.11:50
MisterFartsblueblood, buy K&R's book on C11:50
bluebloodno thanks11:51
MisterFartsblueblood, i guess you don't want to learn then11:51
HappyFoolspling: try booting with 'linux debian-installer/probe/usb=false'11:51
mommerthere's the make documentation, and the K&R is reputed to be online.11:51
HappyFooldoh11:51
mommerbut I don't know for sure.11:51
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MisterFartsmommer, you should learn C before learning the make system11:52
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HappyFoolspling: try booting with 'linux debian-installer/probe/usb=false'11:52
MisterFartsyou need some fairly sophisticated stuff to even warrant make11:52
xunkhi11:52
splingI'm using a live install if that makes any difference.11:52
HappyFoolspling: what's a live install?11:52
splingI tried doing that once happyfool and it didn't workRunning /etc/hotplug/usb.rc11:52
spling[4294674.594000]  ohci_hcd 0000:00:13.1: unlink after no-IRQ? Controller is probably using the wrong IRQ.11:52
spling- Install hangs here -11:52
splingack11:52
splinguhh11:53
splinga live boot?11:53
mommerMisterFarts: blueblods q sounds as if he knew programming already.11:53
splinglive CD?11:53
HappyFoolspling: ah, live cd11:53
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splingdoes that make any difference?11:53
bluebloodI just want to compile my SDL projects withouy having to type a 150char long gcc line :/11:53
MisterFartsmommer, he was asking about how "to code an compile"11:53
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MisterFartsmommer, sounds like he's pretty green11:53
HappyFoolspling: sorry, that's my best guess. check the help pages on boot under F111:54
splingok11:54
splingi'll try it again11:54
MisterFartsif he was a seasoned developer, he'd know what questions to ask and would find the answers pretty quickly11:54
splingI'll be back if it doesnt work LOL11:54
mommerMisterFarts: well, whatever. So let him get in trouble as he pleases :-)11:54
mommerthat's one way to learn.11:54
MisterFartsmommer, well he asked what to read11:54
HappyFoolblueblood: the 'make' info pages are pretty good. try 'info make' for more11:54
MisterFartsK&R is an excellent starting point for C on UNIX11:54
comsMisterFarts, the readme says that for kernel 2.6 a patch for the touchpads needs to be installed11:55
HappyFoolblueblood: otherwise maybe people on #sdl can give you tips11:55
mommerI would rather not recomend C anyway, but that's me.11:55
comsMisterFarts, is there a way of knowing what patches are applyed to the kernel?11:55
blondieLOL11:55
xunkhi smbdy can help me to connect to a public wifi ... ? i can't since I installed wpa_supplicant (which indeed work on my WPA router at home, but now work ONLY on my router)11:55
blondiemommer: VB instead?11:55
MisterFartscoms, it sounds like the patch is already there11:55
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MisterFartslet me check the howto11:56
comsMisterFarts, the howti doesn't say anything about the patch11:56
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MisterFartscoms, where does the howto say antyhing about the patch ?11:56
MisterFartscoms, if the howto doesn't say antyhing about the patch it's probably beause you don't need any patch11:57
ionhi guys11:57
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MisterFartscoms: ***The Synaptics Touchpad driver is already installed in Warty, but it seems it's not activated.***11:57
comsMisterFarts, well the patch is for ALPS (smth to do with touchpads i think) in the kernel... so the howto might be ok for kernel 2.4.. but not for 2.611:57
MisterFartsthere's your answer right there11:57
MisterFartscoms, i really doubt that ubuntu driver support would regress from one distribution to the next11:58
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MisterFartscoms, i HIGHLY DOUBT that you need to patch the kernel11:58
comsMisterFarts, ok i understand, however It's not that the touchpad doesn't work.. it's just that it doesn't listen to it's configuration11:59
MisterFartscoms: did you do everything that the HOWTO said to do ?11:59
comsMisterFarts, when i try to desactivate the Tap-Click, it just keeps it active11:59
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comsMisterFarts,  yes.. i have the same stuff in my xorg.conf11:59
ionI couldn't upgrade my system properly somebody can help to sort out my problem ?11:59
MisterFartscoms, did you restart your X server ?12:00
ionplease12:00
comsMisterFarts, btw.. what's the easiest way of restarting x?12:00
comsMisterFarts, i have restarted it since changing yes12:00
MisterFartscoms: control-alt-backspace12:00
comsMisterFarts,  i tryed that once and everything just went black.. and didnt restart12:00
HappyFoolion: give us some details; maybe someone can help12:01
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comsMisterFarts,  doesn't matter..12:01
MisterFartscoms: maybe xdm isn't set to respawn12:01
MisterFartscoms, or you were on the wrong console12:01
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comsMisterFarts, and how do i do that12:01
comsMisterFarts, how do i tell xdm to respawn?12:01
ionHappyFool: I gonna post on the postbin right ?12:01
HappyFoolgdm normally restarts12:01
HappyFoolion: that would be best12:01
MisterFartscoms, it's generally set in /etc/inittab12:01
comsMisterFarts, ok.. it's just a thing that's "off" that i need to change to "on"?12:02
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MisterFartsman inittab12:02
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stratovariushey all12:03
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HappyFoolMisterFarts: i don't think gdm is directly respawned by inittab in ubuntu; it's not mentioned in inittab12:03
MisterFartsHappyFool, that's what i said12:04
HappyFoolerr, by init, at least12:04
robotgeekMisterFarts: gdm starts from /etc/init.d, which of course adds it to the run-level (i figure)12:04
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MisterFartsrobotgeek, init.d won't respawn12:04
stratovariusguys I have several problems with the opening of my web pages. they opens veeeeery slow.I have a dsl connection and I found this problem with breezy and not with hoary.what can the problem be?12:05
comsMisterFarts, HappyFool do i just add the tty7 in the list to respawn.. coz there's a list up to tty6?12:05
robotgeekMisterFarts: hmm, true12:05
HappyFoolcoms: i wouldn't fiddle inittab if i were you12:05
MisterFartscoms, no, you add the gdm program to the list12:05
comsHappyFool, :)12:05
HappyFoolcoms: unless you have seriously mucked around, it should Just Work12:05
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MisterFartscoms, although i would heed HappyFool's advice12:06
comsMisterFarts, ok.. and the numbers in front of respawn12:06
MisterFartscoms, read the manpage12:06
stratovariusmay no one help me?12:06
MisterFartsit's all explained in detail there12:06
MisterFartsstratovarius, what's the question12:06
stratovariusguys I have several problems with the opening of my web pages. they opens veeeeery slow.I have a dsl connection and I found this problem with breezy and not with hoary.what can the problem be?12:06
MisterFartsstratovarius, there is some stuff in the FAQ about speeding up firefox12:07
MisterFartsstratovarius, is it a firefox problem or a network problem ?12:07
HappyFoolcoms: /etc/init.d/gdm has a comment 'sleep until gdm dies, then restart it 16jul2000' -- i think that script handles gdm restarting (though i can't see how)12:07
MisterFartsHappyFool, it's probably an infinite loop12:08
stratovariusMisterFarts I think it a ff problem cuz other pcs in my house work with no problems12:08
MisterFartsstratovarius, read the FAQ then12:08
CosmoDadstratovarius: I'd try figuring out if the slowness can be observed with a different OS as well..12:08
comsHappyFool, so i just leave the inittab?12:08
HappyFoolcoms: i would ;)12:09
CosmoDadstratovarius: and for a quick shot: did some network configurations change, like DNS server?12:09
comsHappyFool, MisterFarts well i'll restart it now..  and see what happens :)12:09
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HappyFoolcoms: hang on12:09
CosmoDadstratovarius: if you suspect Firefox to be responsible, try Nautilus or Konqueror12:09
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MisterFartsHappyFool, i dont see anything in that script that would cause gdm to respawn ...12:09
HappyFoolcoms: if it does break, switch to a console (alt-f1 or ctl-alt-f1), login and run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'12:09
stratovariusCosmoDad: i dont tink its a dns problem12:10
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stratovariusi changed nothing12:10
HappyFoolMisterFarts: me either. but it does -- try it ;)12:10
comsHappyFool,  ok thanks12:10
comsHappyFool,  and it'll restart in the tty7?12:10
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CosmoDadstratovarius: Firefox allows you to see which part of page loading is currently active through the status bar... does the DNS resolution come up quickly but the data transfers lags?12:10
MisterFartsHappyFool, maybe it's in start-stop-daemon ...12:11
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HappyFoolcoms: i think when gdm starts it takes over the console. i'm not sure if tty7 is the correct terminology for where X is running, but something like that12:11
stratovariusCosmoDad: I dont kow what u want to know cuz my problem is a temporary problem which solved by itself12:11
stratovariusCosmoDad: to solve the problem I ususally restart X and it works good =|12:12
CosmoDadstratovarius: I didn't read that12:12
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MisterFartsHappyFool, it seems to be handled by the start-stop-daemon program12:12
HappyFoolMisterFarts: quite possibly. a twisty maze of shell scripts, all different12:12
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ionHappyFool: is already there I had made some mistakes on the screenshots sequece but I think you ganna understad....12:13
comsHappyFool, :) ok12:13
MisterFartsHappyFool, yeah, it supports "scheduling"12:14
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MisterFartsHappyFool, basically it will poll every specified interval to check for  a certain state change12:14
CosmoDadstratovarius: strange problem.. maybe you wann check all active network programs, using netstat fr instance, and some network traffic monitor12:14
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CosmoDadstratovarius: and compare CPU usage between laggy and non-laggy scenarios12:14
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HappyFoolion: erk. my connection is a malfunctioning dial-up modem. i'll let you know when the first screenshot has downloaded ;)12:14
stratovariusCosmoDad: i think I'm not able to do what u said :D12:15
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CosmoDadstratovarius: the tools you want are netstat, ps, and top, for the network monitor I'd look for something GUI-like12:16
switchcatugh. :( im getting sick of this.  Is there an ubuntu Network based install process?12:16
ionHappyFool : rigth I had download all the packages but I couldn't upgrade the system well....12:16
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CosmoDadstratovarius: if I had time I might guide you but I need to be off in some minutes and can only recommend the man-pages to you12:16
MisterFartsswitchcat, eh ?12:16
stratovariusCosmoDad: dont worry tnx a lot12:16
ionHappyFool:so...what you think is it..??12:17
switchcatmister - like using a very basic system to download all the installation files from the net instead of from a cd..12:17
switchcatmy cds for whatever reason arnt working12:17
HappyFoolion: still downloading the screenshot...12:17
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MisterFartsswitchcat, you could do a "server" install and get everything else via apt-get12:17
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ionHappyFool: no I stopped12:18
MisterFartsswitchcat, there's only 1 cd anyway ...12:18
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runedude3hey all12:18
LathropWellsI Love Ubuntu! :)12:18
switchcatmisterfarts - I'm doing a server install, it is having problems on various parts..12:18
lagaLathropWells: me too.12:18
MisterFartsswitchcat, i don't think there is a full network install12:18
switchcatso far I've got four coasters. :(12:18
ionHappyFool: because you told me having a problem with your connection...12:18
runedude3I commend the ubuntu developers for doing a really good job on ubuntu, but I am just not happy with my 64bit installation. Is there anyway to downgrade to a 32bit installation without having to format?12:18
MisterFartsswitchcat, debian used to have  one though12:18
HappyFoolion: stopped what?12:18
MisterFartsswitchcat, took 4 floppies airc12:18
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MisterFartsi think everyone pretty much assumes that you have a working CD nowadays :)12:19
ionHappyFool:to download it and try to explain here...12:19
switchcatI do have a working cd but cant seem to write a cd that ubuntu likes for whatever reason. :'(12:19
MisterFartsswitchcat, i don't think it's ubuntu12:19
MisterFartsswitchcat, either the file is corrupted or your burner is junk12:20
robotgeekswitchcat: or you should trying burning at a lower speed12:20
naliothswitchcat: ubuntu cds seem to like being burnt as slowly as possible12:20
MisterFartsyeah, the CDs could be junk too :)12:20
switchcatI downloaded it twice two separate ways, it could be with the fact that my burner is burning too fast but the program I currently have isn't changing the speed of the burner, even when I change it in the system preferences12:20
LathropWellsswitchcat - is it making a bootable disk or just copying an iso file to disk?12:20
switchcatI've used two or three different brands of cds12:21
switchcatlathrop - they've all been bootable12:21
MisterFartsswitchcat, get something that supports various burn speeds12:21
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MisterFartsswitchcat, i believe nero does12:21
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LathropWellsOkay. - :/12:21
MisterFartsyou can get a demo for free airc12:21
HappyFoolion: what did you do to upgrade? did you follow the instructions on the wiki? (here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade)12:21
switchcatmisterfarts - any suggestions for a freely available iso burner for windows(xp)?12:21
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MisterFartsswitchcat, try nero12:21
LathropWellssure free  isoburner powertoy by alex feinman12:22
eedgeThanks nalioth :)12:22
eedgeoh...12:22
eedgedid I say something mean or something?12:22
MisterFartsswitchcat, i don't know much about windows burners12:22
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LathropWellsburn for free (ad supported)12:22
ionHappyFool: well I went to this chat yestarday, jenda and serveis tyed to help me that's it...12:23
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ionHappyFlool: so I followed the istruction which they gave me....12:24
kascheihelo, I just installed ubuntu, but when I get to the login my keyboard is no longer working... I can use it as late as the grub menu, but when the login screen appears I can't type12:24
kascheidoes anyone know a solution to this problem?12:25
HappyFoolion: what instructions were those?12:25
kascheiit's a usb/wireless logitech keyboard12:26
kascheiI used it in debian without issue and it still works fine from knoppix12:27
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ionHappyFool: well before I was struggling to install a lots of pasckages because my sudo doesn't work well I was using hoary 5.04 and then servis told me to upgrade the system for breedy...I used sudo commands to do that......12:29
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m|khey while installing ubuntu i get an error saying that it was unable to install some of the packages at 83% how can i install the missing packages?12:29
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ionHappyFool: so now some parts is upgraded but not  the entire system......you know.....12:30
mahanguwhat's the best tool for ubuntu to interface with my ipod shuffle12:30
naliothmahangu: gtkpod12:30
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lagai wonder if gtkpod actually supports the shuffle.12:31
mahangunalioth, righto, just apt-getting that :)12:31
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mahangulaga, ive heard it does12:31
mahangulaga, afaik the ipod family uses the same file format12:31
mahangu?12:31
mahanguim not sure of 5g and nano12:31
mahangubut the rest do, I think12:31
lagamahangu: the ipod shuffle is just a mass storage device, imho.12:31
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mahangulaga, you can select either option12:31
lagaoh, sorry. it supports the shuffle i'll shut up now :)12:32
mahangulaga, in any case ill let you know in a minute12:32
mahanguoh ok12:32
musikwhere is that file which automounted win partitions in hoary plz????????/12:32
mahangumusik, fstab?12:33
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[nige] anyone been able to get gmail via fetchmail?12:34
robotgeekubotu: tell musik about windowsdrives12:34
switchcatlathrop - looks good, thanks... lets hope it works. :)12:34
robotgeek[nige] : yup12:34
[nige] i have exim as my mta12:35
jareth_[nige] : yep12:35
musikmahangu: no no...that piece of program....which automatically detected all win partitions and mounted them....winmac or something...it was like easyubuntu12:35
[nige] is it easy enough to do or do I have hack around abit?12:35
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jareth_[nige] : getting mail works well for me12:35
ionHappyFool: ?12:35
robotgeek[nige] : pretty easy. i can put up my fetchmailrc for ya12:35
[nige] robotgeek,  that would be cool, i would love to see12:36
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[nige] I am currently using SASL2 authentication to send12:36
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[nige] I just want to be able to get all my mail in 1 location12:36
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m|khey while installing ubuntu i get an error saying that it was unable to install some of the packages at 83% how can i install the missing packages?12:38
naliothm|k: fron a cd?12:38
ionanyone up to help me ??12:38
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ionplase12:38
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robotgeek[nige] : paste.ubuntulinux.nl/446912:38
m|knalioth: put the cd in and then what?12:39
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robotgeek[nige] : are you following the nice guide?12:39
[nige] cheers i am go have alook12:39
mahangu_laga, imma getting errors12:39
mahangu_:)12:39
naliothm|k: are you using a cd to install?12:39
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robotgeek[nige] : http://souptonuts.sourceforge.net/postfix_tutorial.html12:40
ionhi guys I got problem with my OS a12:40
[nige] thats in  .fetchmailrc12:40
andersonfdahi12:40
m|knalioth: well im using an iso image, from VMware under windows xp12:40
robotgeek[nige] : yup, correct12:40
[nige] okay12:40
[nige] let me go stick this in12:40
[nige] I will let you know how it goes12:40
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naliothm|k: check the iso image integrity12:40
naliothubuntu: tell m|k about verify12:40
robotgeek[nige] : you might want to skip the postfix smtp part, and use nbsmtp12:41
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[nige] okay12:41
andersonfdaim tring to install printers in my ubuntu but they are installed and i cant print the jobs are there but dont start12:41
kascheiI just installed ubuntu, and my keyboard stops working before I can log-in... GRUB responds to keyboard input but gdm does not.  It's a usb keyboard on a very old motherboard, does anyone know of a fix for this?12:41
ionwell I tryed to install update my system to breezy but something went wrong........12:41
robotgeek[nige] : i use postfix tho, cause i spend so much time configuring it. it works much easier with nbsmtp + mutt12:41
ionI mean update12:42
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[nige] hmm12:42
jimcooncatI'm lost trying to get a US Robotics/3com PCI Modem to work. How can I tell if it's attached to /dev/modem?12:42
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[nige] I am using exim4+courier-imap+fetchmail12:42
m|knalioth: can you tell me about verify?12:42
m|kkaschei: do you have a usb to ps2 converter that you could try?12:42
robotgeek[nige] : just for gmail? or you have a bigger setup to worry about?12:42
[nige] messages are sent with the use of exim4 + tls, so it generates my certificate12:42
[nige] everyting works12:43
[nige] I just want to get my gmail on my server12:43
musikhow do i mount my ext2 hda6 partition.....plz help??12:43
naliothm|k: ubotu just did12:43
robotgeek[nige] : i had issues with the certificate part (or so i thought). it turned out that i was using the wrong password!12:43
naliothm|k: look to your private msgs12:43
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[nige] fair enough12:43
[nige] :)12:43
[nige] if I already have a certifcate12:43
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[nige] do I still need to generate one?12:44
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mahangu_nalioth, the gtkpod has a long HOWTO including installing hotplug - if my ipod is picked up by nautilus i can safely disregard that, cant I?>12:44
lesshastewhen you install ubuntu on a machine that was windows there already does it automatically sort out the dual boot for you?12:44
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naliothmahangu_: yes12:44
mahangu_lesshaste, in most  cases, yes12:44
[nige] I dont want to send via gmail is all12:44
naliothlesshaste: yes it does12:44
lesshastemahangu_: cool thx12:44
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lesshasteis there a built in ntfs resizer in the boot cd?12:45
naliothlesshaste: yes there is12:45
lesshastethx ;)12:45
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robotgeek[nige] : getting gmail, you just need the certificates for google and thwate, i believe12:45
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[nige] so that requires a recreating  right12:45
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m|knalioth: i have no privat messages, i just turned off unfilterd messages so if ubotu can send that again?12:46
robotgeek[nige] : nope, you just need to download those from the soupnuts site, i guess12:46
[nige] okay12:47
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naliothm|k: unfiltered messages? ubotu is registered12:47
lukesI'm trying install ubuntu but am not having much luck: it doesn't detect my wireless ethernet card at the 'detect network hardware' step. is this bad?12:47
m|knalioth: well i dont have any messages12:47
naliothubotu: tell m|k about verify12:47
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m|knalioth: cheers i got this time round12:48
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lukesfolks? little help...12:48
ThJhey, libclamav1 wants libgmp3 but it's been replaced by other packages. how do i fix it?12:48
robotgeek[nige] : while you are there, download the cert.pem certificate too.12:49
[nige] hmm okay12:49
[nige] okay12:49
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ufkis there a 64 bit livecd for ubuntu?12:49
naliothubotu: tell lukes about wireless12:49
[nige] ahyways12:49
ThJthe other packages are installed but libclamav1 doesn't want them.12:49
[nige] I need to go12:49
[nige] thanks for all the help12:49
robotgeek[nige] : later12:49
[nige] have a good day / evening12:49
[nige] cya12:49
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ThJhow do i tell apt-get to force the package to install despite dependencies?12:50
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lukesthx nalioth12:52
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bigfoot1is there a program that converts midi files to mp3?12:52
emurzhey, after I mounted my ntfs partitions it says that I cannot open the folders in /media/ because I do not have permission, how can I fix this?12:52
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naliothbigfoot1: search in synaptic for 'midi'12:52
naliothemurz: give it permission12:53
emurznalioth, how?12:53
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MisterFartsemurz, if you want regular users to have permission for ntfs i believe it's a mount option12:53
bellhurry??12:53
naliothemurz: open a terminal and type "man fstab"12:54
emurzMisterFarts, there is no root12:54
MisterFartsemurz, sure there is12:54
naliothemurz: under no circumstances, make your ntfs read/write12:54
emurzMisterFarts, it's disabled12:54
MisterFartsemurz, so enable it12:54
MisterFartsemurz: sudo su12:54
MisterFartsemile, passwd12:54
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naliothMisterFarts: dont do that12:54
naliothemurz: dont do that12:54
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emurzMisterFarts, I'm quite happy with my user12:55
MisterFartsnalioth, there's nothing wrong with enabling root12:55
naliothMisterFarts: that is not his problem, and dont suggest sudo su, it's redundant and dangerous12:55
switchcatcurrent problem: "an error was returned hile trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system"12:55
naliothMisterFarts: join #ubuntu-offtopic please and we'll discuss12:55
naliothemurz: in your fstab you need to change the permissions12:55
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emurzI put umask=0012:56
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^Orpheus^hello, I just installed the newest version of Ubuntu and I seem to have troubles getting X working. Some error saying "no screens found". I probably don;t have installed my video card right, but I can't seem to get that correct. I would appreciate some advise, but have to say this is the first time ever I am installing a Linux dist12:56
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duke/etc/X11/xorg.config12:57
switchcatargh, I think I'm gonna have to try another distro. :(12:57
dukecorrect the file   ;)12:57
dukegentoo!!!12:57
duke^^12:57
naliothemurz: another 0 there, (you need 3 000)12:57
robotgeek^Orpheus^: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:57
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dukehttp://ipods.freepay.com/?r=2493000212:58
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unuhello12:58
unuanyone around here using openbox?12:59
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robotgeekunu: yeah, why?12:59
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^Orpheus^duke: may sound stupid, but I am the dir you say, but what should I command should I use to be abled to correct it *blushes*01:00
xophErHi! What could be wrong; my computer freezes when I leave it unattended for a longer while.. like over night.. In all the logs everything is normal, but then suddenly stops.. Using Breezy01:00
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unurobotgeek: i there anyway of restricting some screen areas?01:01
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robotgeekunu: restricting?01:01
unui don't know how it's called, i don't want it over some apps like fbpanel01:01
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Silencerppl please tell me how to setup my clock01:01
unumaybe another app which does this01:01
unudon't really now how it's called01:01
unulike: 30 px from the top of the screen01:01
SilencerI setup time and timezone my clock after some time go 3 minutes fast and timezone is changed :(01:01
robotgeekunu: hmm, i am not quite sure. take a look at devilspie, it might be in there01:02
emurznalioth, do you know how can I enable my 5.1ch stereo system?01:02
unui know of devilspie :| but it's gonna be a battle uphill with it - i might as well use fvwm :)01:02
unuthx for the idea though01:02
naliothemurz: i have 0 clue01:02
naliothubotu: tell emurz about sound01:02
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unurobotgeek: solved it - xftaskbar can hold its own :) it doesn't allow maximized apps to go over it01:05
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ceejanyone been able to get limewire to work?01:06
robotgeekunu: i just use the gnome-panel, and gnome..openbox is my wm tho01:06
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Boobekre01:06
unubye everyone01:06
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m|knalioth: allright ive got the md5 sum but i dont have anything to compare it with?01:07
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naliothm|k: visit the webpage you d/l the iso from. see md5sums01:08
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m|knaloith: thats for 5.04 ive got 5.1001:09
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naliothm|k: the md5sums exist for all of them, look around up the tree01:09
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LathropWellsHiddenFly,     No sound with Tux Racer/Planet Penguin Racer - any hints/links?01:12
LathropWellsHello*01:12
HiddenFlyLathropWells: watch it...01:12
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bellhurry_Hello01:13
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LathropWells"Hi,"  - becane HiddenFly - sorry.01:14
bellhurry_Hello Every One01:14
BolsLathropWells, try to install libsdl1.2debian-alsa01:14
LathropWellsHi<space>,01:14
LathropWellsAh great! - Thank You.01:14
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switchcatapparently there are options for netbooting but I cant make heads or tails of them right now. :(01:14
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switchcater, net installing that is01:15
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k1mhow to get VLC on ubuntu .. apt-get ?01:17
naliothk1m: enable universe and multiverse repos01:17
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Hobbsee!repos01:18
ubotumethinks repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource01:18
xainthi all...01:18
k1mnalioth: ? (noob)01:18
laga!easysource01:18
uboturumour has it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:18
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Bols!mp301:18
ubotuhmm... mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:18
Hobbseek1m: read the !repos above01:18
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naliothubotu: tell k1m about repos01:18
bluebloodAre there any more configurable virtual desktop module for gnome then the one wich ships with ubuntu?01:18
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Heroinre all01:18
LathropWellsswitchcat - switchcat this looks like a good walkthrough for a net install https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot01:18
Heroinhallo everyone.. i  have a qeustion01:19
bigfoot1gaim is nice, but can it do searches for online people? Or do a "I'm free to chat and would like to search for other free people" ?01:19
Heroincould some one help me01:19
k1mthx01:19
switchcatlathrop - yes there are a few different pages on netbooting but they mean nothing to me at this moment.01:19
naliothblueblood: kde?01:19
kitschhello. for a few days, ubuntu has been behaving really weird. when my computer has been running for a day or so, i get some messages from azureus that says it failed to write to some files (downloads.config and such) because of READ-ONLY file system. at that point, i can't write to any files on any of my hdds, and have to reboot. anyone have an idea on how to solve this?01:19
Magic07installed everything on imac g5 went great...boots to login screen but wont let me input user...any ideas01:19
bluebloodNo, not gnome itself, I just mean the panel01:19
Heroin... is everyone busy with helping people or can i ask something?01:19
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rixthI'm so torn. I can have two 256mb Memory Sticks for $110 or one 512mb for $125. Hmmm. What to take?!01:20
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mahangu_Heroin, just ask01:20
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robotgeekHeroin: go right ahead01:20
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mahangu_rixth, that is for #ubuntu-offtopic01:20
HeroinRixth take the single 51201:20
lagafunny thing: totem can't play raw video in an avi container.01:20
switchcatrixth - uh doesn't it depends upon what type of system you have set up?01:20
HeroinRobotgeek.. i have an old Dell latitude XPi.. and the bios doesnt allouw CD startup... only floppy and HD.. now what?01:21
robotgeekHeroin: net-install, probably. there's a howto on the wiki01:21
Heroinnet install involves a network?01:21
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Heroinhehehe there is no network ether01:21
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Heroinonly an old dailup card01:22
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robotgeekHeroin: ahh..got me there!01:22
Heroin=]  beat j0o01:22
TrackilizerIs it only me, or is Firefox really sl01:22
Trackilizerslow*01:22
switchcatI cant believe ubuntu is so unforgiving of fast ISO burns... :(01:22
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Heroinbut damnsmalllinux had a floppy which activated teh CD or something01:22
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Coburnwhy my icewm dont save configuration when i quit from session01:22
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TrackilizerI don't mean the time it takes to load a webpage, i mean the time it takes you to scrowl down the bookmarks for example.01:23
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britishseapoweram lovin ubuntu...v easy to use...one thing...how do i install gkrellm2 to monitor my server?01:23
HeroinRobotgeek.. u know what minimal specs for ubunto are.. couldnt find them and i think my laptop doent meet requirements01:23
robotgeekHeroin: it's there on the wiki too, the minimum specs01:24
Heroincould u link me cuz i was unable to find it01:24
Heroinmaby bill deleted it..01:24
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xaintheroin: if you use another windows manager, f.e. blackbox, you will get more ugly and uncomfortable enviroment, but much , much faster!!!01:24
xainti use it for games.01:25
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Heroinurm well that dell.. lets just say it runs 96 in 800x600..01:25
robotgeekHeroin: looking it up now01:25
Heroin95*01:25
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xaintf.e. americas army, RTCW-ET is *much* faster than win version :-)))01:25
Heroinand windows 95 kinda SUX..01:25
Heroinxaint.. i dont have enough HD for the AA installer..01:25
Heroin1.33GB01:25
britishseapoweram lovin ubuntu...v easy to use...one thing...how do i install gkrellm2 to monitor my server?01:26
Heroin150MHZ!!101:26
Hobbsee!info gkrellm201:26
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Hobbsee!info gkrellm01:26
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naliothbritishseapower: server?01:26
ubotugkrellm: (multiple stacked system monitors: 1 process [client] ), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.2.7-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 388 kB, Installed size: 956 kB01:26
Coburn85why my icewm dont save configuration when i quit from session????01:26
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naliothbritishseapower: you can use conky also01:26
xaintheroin: hm... i am beginner too it was only idea...01:26
nalioth!info conky01:27
ubotuconky: (highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1.3.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 84 kB, Installed size: 292 kB01:27
ookamianyone know how to edit the TVTIME config file? or where it may be? i set mirror mode and I cant seem to remove that setting the app closes immediatly after opening.01:27
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Heroinhehe xaint :D its just a lot of people dont release how bad it was in 199601:27
Heroin150MHZ 48MB RAM... 1.0MB vid card01:27
Coburn85someone tell me some thing please??01:27
xainti have question about root account, but not the usual one! I have root pasword set, but it works only with sudo....01:28
HeroinCoburn chck ur settings/01:28
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britishseapowernalioth: client .01:28
britishseapoweralso skype.01:28
britishseapoweris that available for ubuntu01:28
Heroinwell i think iam going to use damnsmalllinux.. cuz ubunto probally wont run01:28
robotgeekHeroin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseNotes?highlight=%28minimum%2901:28
Herointhx robot01:28
Heroinlets see..01:29
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ookamiwhere are programs installed in ubuntu? im looking for TVTIME config file...01:29
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xaintfor example: synaptic refuses my root passwd. but when i log with su as root, and run synaptic from commandline, works well. What can be problem?01:30
lsuactiafnerits stuckup01:30
Habbiexaint, synaptic needs your password, not roots01:30
Heroini only have 48MB of ram.. which is less then the server profile01:30
Seveas!tell xaint about root01:30
lsuactiafnerHeroin : i have 42mb01:30
lsuactiafnerwow actually 4401:30
lsuactiafnercmeme:            44         43          1          0          4          701:30
britishseapowerso how do install gkrellm client, skype and also bluefish webeditor - are auto installers available ?01:31
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Plafi need a trojan/virus scanner asap01:31
lsuactiafnerbritishseapower : apt-cache search app_name01:31
Seveasbritishseapower, gkrellm and bluefish are in universe01:31
naliothxaint: ubuntu is not designed for use with a root account01:31
lsuactiafnerapt-get install app_name01:31
naliothubotu: tell xaint about root01:31
Seveas!tell britishseapower about universe01:31
Seveas!tell britishseapower about skype01:31
ceejdoes ubuntu players now play mp3's?01:31
ceejnot*01:32
nubbeookami, do a search from /01:32
lsuactiafnernalioth : i use it with root.. works well01:32
Seveas!no universe is <reply> see repositories01:32
ubotuSeveas: okay01:32
naliothlsuactiafner: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic please, we're having a root party01:32
nubbeookami, they might be in /etc or even ur home-dir hidden01:32
nubbeookami, in01:32
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ceejcan i not play mp3 files on ubuntu?!01:33
xaintokay, thanks :-)01:33
laga!mp301:33
ubotuwell, mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:33
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laga(i like this bot)01:33
xaintceej: you can... just install software :-)01:33
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jestariushello01:33
lsuactiafnerroot party sounds dangerous01:34
ceejxaint: what one do i need to install?01:34
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xaintnalioth: thanks, i read those faq. but when i tried to run update manager or synaptic with my password, it just dont start. synaptic doesnot start. etc...01:34
xaintceej: xmms for example.01:34
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xaintceej: apt-get install xmms i think...01:35
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ceejxaint: thanks just doing it :)01:35
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naliothxaint: what errors do you get? (dont paste in here)01:35
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mommerhi, if i try to open files copied over from windoze wit hopen office, it says that the file doesn't exist "(invalid encoding)". Any ideas?01:36
xaintnalioth: no errors. simply screen fades and thats all.01:36
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naliothxaint: how do you start synaptic?01:36
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Tony_Sidawayrobotgeek, you there?  I would like to see if someone could perform dpkg -S /etc/xmodmap.conf and report the package name.01:36
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robotgeekTony_Sidaway: it's xmodmap01:37
Tony_SidawayThanks01:37
robotgeekTony_Sidaway: apt-cache search xmodmap pulls it up, and it's in main01:37
xaintnalioth: upper menu, system->something->synaptic. (i have czech version). i thint thats default way...01:38
x_linexaint: look in system>administration and it should be there01:38
ceejanyone know why i can't control the volume levels, its either on:loud or off01:38
xaintx_line: thats it.01:38
x_linexaint: it should ask you for you're password01:38
xaintthats what i launch. it asks for password and fades. and cant launch it again.01:38
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xaintx_line: asked first.01:39
naliothxaint: try alt-f2 >gksudo synaptic01:39
Tony_Sidawayrobotgeek, reinstalled xmodmap but still no sign of the config file.01:39
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Tony_Sidawayrobotgeek, I'll go poking around in the innards to see if it's there.01:39
xaintnalioth: nothing :-((( fades away and nothing :-(01:39
robotgeekTony_Sidaway: look in the examples directory, or i can pastebin mine01:40
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naliothxaint: does apt-get work?01:40
x_linexaint: does it even give you a chance to enter the password01:40
xaintnalioth: no.01:41
naliothxaint: what does it do?01:41
xaintx_line: asked me first time. I entered password. and thats last what i have seel asking for password.01:41
x_linexaint: are you using breezy01:41
xaintx_line breezy, yes.01:42
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pl_iceheya01:42
robotgeekTony_Sidaway: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/447001:42
xaintnalioth: moment, translating, error is in czech too :-)01:42
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Tony_Sidawayrobotgeek, cheers01:42
pl_icenalioth where u from?01:43
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robotgeekTony_Sidaway: just remove the  weird stuff i put in there. or better, use it :)01:43
naliothpl_ice: join #ubuntu-offtopic please01:43
samouraiHello everybody, I'm a newbie in ubuntu's world01:44
pl_ice:/ forgive me, i'm drunk ;)01:44
ceejhow come i can control the volume for Gaim and other things but with XMS i can only have it really loud or not at all?!01:44
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xaintnalioth: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/447101:45
robotgeekceej: output plugin, check for volume control related stuff, in advanced tab01:45
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ceejrobotgeek: what in XMS?01:45
robotgeekceej: yes01:45
naliothxaint: close all your instances of apt-get and synaptic01:45
xaintand thanks all who tried to help me. i looked to documentation, but all about root account is what i dont need or what i tried.01:45
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chicken-manWhen I try mount my CD-ROM drive I get this error: No medium found.01:46
xaintnalioth: closed, but maybe any process can be still launched. mom, i will try to kill them.01:46
ceejrobotgeek: by changing what lol clicked everything still the same lol01:47
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robotgeekceej: there should be something called 'Volume Controls not PCM'01:47
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chicken-manWhen I try mount my CD-ROM drive I get this error: No medium found, what does it mean ?01:48
ceejrobotgeek: its ok its working now....thank you :)01:48
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naliothchicken-man: means your drive is empty01:48
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xaintnalioth : no instance running, no process named synaptic ( ps -ALL tried)01:49
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chicken-mannalioth: My CD-ROM drive is a cd-rw, I put in a empty cd-rw why does it not work ?01:49
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hyphenatedchicken-man: probably not formatted01:50
naliothchicken-man: you dont need to mount a blank cd-rw, your writing software should take care of it01:50
ceejok now XMS has just disaperd when i click main menu LOL01:50
ceejhow do i get it back LOL!!01:50
naliothxaint: look for apt-get , dpkg processes01:50
chicken-manhmmm whats a good KDE tool to write to CD's ?01:50
naliothchicken-man: k3b01:50
hyphenatedchicken-man: k3b01:50
robotgeekchicken-man: k3b01:50
lagak3b01:50
robotgeekheh01:50
chicken-manlol Thanks :-P01:50
hyphenated:-)01:51
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ceejcan anyone tell me how to view XMS i click main menu in the options and it disapered but its still playing!01:51
chicken-manceej: kill it01:51
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ceejchicken-man: how?01:52
x_linecan anyone suggest a good on-line tutorial that can take me from c to c++01:52
chicken-manceej: ps -U [user] , kill [pid] 01:52
xaintnalioth: none running...01:53
naliothxaint: reboot and come back, ok?01:53
x_lineoops sorry wrong channel01:53
chicken-manx_line: C++ is the same as C except the OOP, look for a C++ tutorial01:53
xaintnalioth: okay.01:53
xaintbye for a while01:54
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chicken-manx_line: http://cprogramming.com01:54
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ceejchicken-man: doesn't work01:54
zygahello I've got a problem with recompiled kernel01:54
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zygaI used the same config file as the default i386 kernel has01:54
zygabut after booting I get01:54
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zyga'unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)'01:55
Seveaszyga, did you use make-kpkg and create an initrd?01:55
zygaand before that: cannot open root device hda1 or unknown block(0,0)01:55
zygaSeveas: yes01:55
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chicken-manceej: ps -U [user running program]  | grep [program name] , kill [program number] 01:55
ceejhow do i get the info to do that? :/01:55
chicken-manceej: such as "ps -U root | grep kdm", "kill 6200"01:56
Seveaszyga, and the lines in grub are correct (ie: loading the initrd)01:56
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Seveasand the initrd contains all modules you need?01:57
chicken-manceej: the kill number will be where the program is01:57
zygaSeveas: grub got it's lines after installing the resulting .deb01:57
zygaSeveas: I'm not sure how to check initrd stuff I'm new to kernel compilation01:57
chicken-manceej: such as   6200 ? kdm01:57
ceejchicken-man i can't see XMS though ;/01:58
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chicken-manceej: what user are you running it as ?01:59
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ceejceej01:59
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chicken-manceej: ps -U ceej | grep xms02:00
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ludde`i want to check if my fw is running, and i forgot the command, " ps -aux |grep firestarter "02:00
chicken-manceej: the kill [number]  , number will be on the left of xms02:01
ceejchicken-man: its still running02:01
kyncanizyga: the error message means your fs (say reiserfs) is not supported by your kernel, reconfigure your kernel and add support for say reiserfs. And do not make this feature a module.02:01
vbgunzhello everyone, does anyone have the problem of GAIM windows just minimizing for no apparent reason? I am on Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) and using GAIM 1.5.002:01
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chicken-manceej: did you try to kill it ?02:01
mahanguvbgunz, i have loads of problems with GAIM02:01
zygakyncani: okay I've got reiserfs here and the config file is the default ubuntu i386 config02:01
vbgunzmahangu: thanks for the confirmation :P02:02
ceeji don't know the number cause i can't see it02:02
zygakyncani: is that supposed to happen?02:02
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mahanguvbgunz, im on 5.04 btw02:02
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kyncanizyga: make sure in grub you have your root=/dev/hdX right02:02
vbgunzmahangu: do windows minimize for no apparent reason?02:02
chicken-manceej: what did you start xms with ?02:02
zygakyncani: checking, it was set automatically though02:02
zygakyncani: it's correct02:03
xophErwhy is wine not installable through apt?02:03
kyncanizyga: ubuntu set reiserfs as a module, change this and add support directly in kernel02:03
ceeji went in aplications opend it went into the menu and click main menu button, which i think means it hides the player02:03
mahanguvbgunz, it hangs, and frequently just "disappears"02:03
ceejbut i can't get it back now....02:03
zygakyncani: great, thanks :)02:03
zygakyncani: but ... why can I still boot the default kernel okay?02:03
chicken-manceej: using KDE or Gnome ?02:03
zygakyncani: initramfs?02:03
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kyncanizyga: which default kernel ?02:04
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zygakyncani: i38602:04
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ceejgnome02:04
chicken-manceej: kill gnome that may stop it02:04
zygakyncani: /boot/config-2.6.12-9-38602:06
kyncanizyga: ?? You should have a precompiled ubuntu kernel as a fallback (and you do not touch it), so you can experiment with your own kernel.02:06
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ceejbut its an option on XMMS but i don't see how to uncheck it so i can see it again02:06
zygakyncani: I do have the default kernel02:06
zygakyncani: so for learing I wanted to recompile the default kernelt02:06
zygato be sure that it just works and that I didn't break anything02:06
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chicken-manceej: so you can see it using "ps -U ceej" ?02:06
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chicken-mancan't02:06
kyncanizyga: you should have a working kernel like linux-686 (don't touch it), and your own, built with linux-source-2.6.1202:07
ceejyes :)02:07
zygakyncani: that's what I do02:07
ufkin the amd64 livecd what's the password for su?02:07
zygamy kernel has -zyga suffix02:07
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zygakyncani: I'm asking about this:02:08
chicken-manceej: if you see it using ps, kill it02:08
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chicken-manceej: if you can't kill gnome02:08
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zygakyncani: how can the default kernel boot the system (it has reiserfs as a module) when the exactly same kernel (built by me from existing config file) cannot02:08
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chicken-manceej: other than that remove and reinstall it02:09
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ceejchicken-man: thanks that seemed to work :D02:09
ragnarHas anyone had success with Azalia ALC861 and ubuntu 5.10. It's not listed in the docs for the latest linux drivers, so I'm guessing it's not supported.02:09
chicken-manceej: :-)02:09
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kyncanizyga: obviously you've made some error in your initrd setup. But since you're creating a custom kernel; you do not need to use initrd. Initrd is for generic kernels, not for custom-build ones.02:10
zygakyncani: how do I setup initrd?02:10
zygakyncani: (I did not setup it at all)02:10
kyncanizyga: start without first. Once you got it working _without_, you can start reading docs about initrd.02:11
ookamiMy synaptic package is outputting an error that starts as: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://...........  Any id.ea what this means?02:11
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zygakyncani: okay... it's building02:12
zygakyncani: is it safe to remove something out of the default kernel... it's taking loong to build on smp box :/02:12
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ufkubuntu livecd amd64 doesn't come with nvidia module?02:13
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ufkhow can i login to root with ubuntu livecd ?02:14
zygaufk: try sudo02:14
andreasdkpass: root02:14
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andreasdkCan anyone help me? My sound has gone totally away and I don`t know why02:15
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ookamiwhere do i paste something for someone to check?02:15
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spektrookami: read the /topic02:16
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ookamiah thanks.02:17
kyncanizyga: you're building a custom kernel. Nothing is safe, you _will_ make errors. I just hope you can track and correct them :)02:17
andreasdkCan anyone please help me with my soundproblem?02:17
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mahanguandreasdk, just ask02:17
andreasdkmahangu: I just did ;-)02:17
veloctlol02:17
kyncanizyga: well, it is safe. You will just have kernels not working when you make an error ;)02:17
mahanguandreasdk, sorry didnt see  - try killall esd02:17
zygakyncani: heh, right02:18
andreasdkmahangu: Even though it has been messed up for a few weeks??02:18
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mahanguandreasdk, try it02:18
andreasdkNothing happened.02:18
ookamisynaptic is giving me a warning which i dont quite understand how to correct... see: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/447402:18
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Paradoxxhmm, i'm looking to add another hd to my linux system.... what file system would you recommend? It will mainly jbe for general use, and extra storage. WIll be a 90GB partition02:20
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andreasdkNow I`m getting this error: Failed to play: Could not open resource for writing.02:20
Magic07installed everything on imac g5 went great...boots to login screen but wont let me input user...any ideas02:20
spektrookami: i'm not sure, but maybe refreshing your package list will help02:20
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ookamiis that: sudo apt-get update  ?02:20
naliothParadoxx: does windows have a place in your life?02:20
naliothMagic07: imac G5s are not supported until dapper02:21
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sinizzlhi02:21
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Paradoxxyea, but its kept to a minimum02:21
spektrookami: yes02:21
naliothsinizzl: howdy02:21
ookamithanks spektr. will do.02:21
sinizzldoes anyone know a tool a i can use for burning mp3's to an audio cd ON THE FLY ?02:21
naliothParadoxx: if you are gonna use that space for windows to read/write to, use fat32, otw, use ext302:21
andreasdkany suggestions regarding the sound?02:21
zygakyncani: is it possible to cross compile the kernel easily?02:21
naliothsinizzl: k3b02:21
Paradoxxnaliothwhat about raiserfs? isn't it supposed to b fast?02:21
sinizzlis it a kde program ?02:21
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naliothParadoxx: i dont recommend reiser to anyone02:22
naliothsinizzl: it is02:22
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emersonguys I had02:22
Paradoxxnalioth: y is that? if you don't mind me askin\02:22
veloctookami: probably the site is down so it can't update it02:22
naliothParadoxx: reiser is termperamental and not mature02:22
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sinizzlhmm02:22
sinizzlnalioth, that means i've got to install qt & kdelibs ?02:23
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ParadoxxnaliothL kk m8, ext3 it is....02:23
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naliothsinizzl: k3b is the best. you can use gnomebaker or graveman and give them a try (they're gtk2)02:23
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sinizzlthey are capable of burning audio cd's from mp3 on the fly ?02:23
naliothsinizzl: i only use k3b, so i dont know02:24
sinizzli don't feel really like installing 17 extra packages for one simple app02:24
Ophiocuswell it all boils down to a couple of clicks, dosent it?02:25
emersonI having a lots of trouble if hoary 5.04 that isn't hoary anymore but breezy some icones just dissapear I even can't access my root terminal.....I don't know what to do anymore.....02:25
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xaintnalioth: i am back, after reboot. i forget your nick :-) i had a problem with password, which doesnot react, even for sudo.02:26
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naliothxaint: xaint i suspect you have major trouble but you can try this02:27
naliothhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LostPassword02:27
Paradoxx!format02:27
ubotuParadoxx: I don't know02:27
ceejwhats a good cd bunner?02:27
Paradoxx!mount02:27
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives02:27
coronahi can someone recommend an app to monitor my network--> data transfer... i use kubuntu with fluxbox02:27
veloctcorona: ethereal02:28
zygacorona: iptraf02:28
coronaare these slit based?02:28
emersonplease how can i activate my root terminal again ?02:28
zygaemerson: sudo -s in your existing terminal02:29
zygacorona: I don't know, sorry02:29
veloctcorona: i don't believe so02:29
coronaok i shall have a look02:29
nubbeIs the install cd that can be dled updated as time goes by?02:30
xaintnalioth: but i know my password, i am logging with it every session in gnome... my password is accepted, but no reaction... f.e. synaptic asked me for password, then window disappeared and thats all.02:30
xaint!windowsdrives02:30
ubotuit has been said that windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:30
naliothxaint: try running synaptic from a console with no password02:30
sinizzl!gay02:30
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emersonzyga: what do you mean ?02:31
zygaemerson: to access root account, open terminal (any terminal) and type sudo -s02:31
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xaintnalioth: it says something as i must be superuser.02:31
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naliothxaint: type "sudo gedit" and let me know what happens with gedit, please02:32
emersonzyga: all rigth so is one terminal to do everything ?02:32
xophErhow can I convert a i386-deb to a amd64-deb?02:32
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bolrodyou can't?02:32
zygaemerson: yes, it's still the same terminal emulator as before02:33
bolrodwhy would you want to02:33
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xaintnalioth: just nothing. accepted password, put me back to commandline and thats all.02:33
xophErbolrod, when there isnt an 64bit version available02:33
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crubeHow do I install tgz packages? I tried to use dpkg --install but it just gave me error 202:33
bolrodis the source available?02:33
veloctxophER: compile from source02:33
xophErveloct, and when there is no source available either :)02:34
naliothxaint: i believe your sudoers is screwed, but i dont know enough to help you get it fixed (screwing up the sudoers file isn't good)02:34
xophErcan I get the source out of a deb-file then?02:34
emersonzyga: no isn't work I tryed now....02:34
bolrodif its in it02:34
bolrodyes02:34
bolrod:)02:34
xophEr.. :)02:34
zygaemerson: sudo -s02:34
zygaemerson: type your password02:34
bolrodwhat program is this?02:34
zygaemerson: you are now root02:34
bolrodwhy would any program have 'only' the i386 deb02:34
emersonzyga: yes  I'm02:35
veloctxophEr: there's has to be a source available02:35
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bolrodI think so too02:35
oo0_JeS_0oodiscon02:35
xaintnalioth: so may i edit this file? i dont know which informations you need. okay, i will try something, hope it works...02:36
zygaemerson: so what did you want instead?02:36
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naliothxaint: the command you should ask google about is "visudo"02:37
fletch33morning02:37
bolrodafternoon02:37
naliothxaint: you'll need to boot in recovery mode to use it02:37
bolrod:)02:37
Paradoxx!chown02:37
ubotuchown is, like, totally, a command used to change the owner of a file or folder, see `man chown` for details02:37
naliothxaint: IF that is your problem02:37
jsteidlhi all, where can i find some information for distupgrade from breezy to dapper?02:37
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emersonzyga: after so much trouble to upgrade my system finally I did but anothers bugs just came up...02:37
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fletch33has anyine had to reboot after intalling packets to get the internet working agagin02:37
veloctjsteidl: go to the forums, there's a dapper forum but all you have to do in your /etc/apt/sources.list is to change breezy to dapper, then update and dist-upgrade02:38
xaintnalioth: okay, i will try it. and if not, i will be tomorrow here like as the boomerang :-)02:38
jsteidlthanks, veloct!02:38
fletch33everytime i use synaptic or automatix i lose my internet. xchat will work but i can not surf or download02:38
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naliothxaint: you can ask seveas he's smart02:39
veloctjsteidl: yw02:39
xaintnalioth: thanks very much even for showing me the way, now i will try the next.02:39
Seveasnalioth, thanks ;)02:39
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Seveasxaint, what is the problem?02:39
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bolrodO_o02:40
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xaintnalioth: will ask seveas :-) but first i will try it by myself. Is it what gurus want, noobs trying to help themselves ;-)02:40
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xaintha, seveas.02:40
fletch33anyone else ever have that problem02:40
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xaintSeveas: i have problem. I am trying to do normal things f.e. synaptic or apt-get or sudo, it accepted my password, but does nothing. Simply put me back to commandline and thats all.02:41
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fletch33i keep having to restart to get my internet working again02:41
Arbeewhois Arbee02:41
Seveasxaint, wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin02:41
fletch33but not chat or gaim just surfing and downloads02:42
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Seveasxaint, sudo cat /etc/sudoers | python pastebin02:42
Seveasxaint, id | python pastebin02:42
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Seveasemerson, you can talk to me in here instead of dcc...02:42
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emersonSeveas: hi man it's me ion the system blocked me to log on as ion.....02:43
dwig365i need help02:43
dwig365with my installation02:43
Seveasemerson, hi there02:43
dwig365for Ubuntu02:43
Seveashow did the upgrade go?02:43
emersonseveas: do you remember me ?02:43
Seveasof course02:44
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dwig365Seveas: after ur done with him, could ya help me with ma installation problem02:44
fletch33Seveas, did u happen to catch my text i am sure it is something simple i am missing02:44
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xaintseveas: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/447502:44
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xaintseveas and second: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/447602:45
emersonSeveas: after so much trouble I could update my system but now anothers bugs came out....02:45
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ArbeeIs there already a HowTo on the net, about configuring a mail server with the new ubuntu-server 5.1002:45
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Seveasxaint, try the first pastebin command again02:45
Seveassomething went wrong02:46
ArbeeI can't find any docu02:46
emersonSeveas: for example one those my terminal just dissapear the root one...02:46
dwig365Seveas: when i try to install it, it hangs at "int:0 swing:0 id:0" or something like that, it's the usb probe i think, but linux debian-installer/probe/usb=false doesn't have any effect on the error02:46
Seveasemerson, that's not a bug, it's a good thing :)02:46
emersonSeveas: the icone which control the sound too02:46
Seveasemerson, in the normal terminal you type 'sudo -i' to get a root terminal02:46
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Seveasemerson, the sound control thing next to the clock you mean?02:47
xaintseveas: done02:47
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emersonSeveas: yeah02:47
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Seveasxaint, hmm, I think my script is buggy, since it does not show at the pastebin02:47
Seveasemerson, rightclick on some empty space next to the clock and select 'add to panel'02:48
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Seveasthere you can select the sound volume thing and put it back on the panel02:48
emersonSeveas: I did already ...doesn't work02:48
Seveasemerson, what's the error?02:49
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veloctcould just be the theme you're using02:49
Seveasxaint, 'sudo gedit /etc/sudoers' and put it on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl manually02:49
emersonSeveas: I just can't find the right icone...02:49
Seveasemerson, 3rd row from the bottom02:49
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Seveasthe last icon in the 'system and hardware' section02:50
xaintseveas: it does nothing.  gedit is not laounched. Thats the problem!02:50
Seveasxaint, ah crud --- of course02:50
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emersonSeveas: I know but I can't find it....02:50
Seveasxaint, did you set a root password perhaps?02:50
xaintseveas: what abou to look at this file in any editor and paste it manually? I have root password, i can try...02:50
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xaintseveas: yes, i have. It works okay.02:51
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Seveasxaint, if you have a root password, then do 'su' to become root and copy the file to /tmp02:51
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Visiteur610bonjours02:51
Seveasyou can then open the file in /tmp as normal user02:51
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Seveas!fr02:51
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais02:51
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Razor-X`hola02:51
emersonSeveas: I can't donwnload xmms, amule and so on.....02:51
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xaintseveas: okay, wait. and i can paste the inner of this file to you, may i?02:52
Seveasemerson, http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/447802:52
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Seveasemerson, you should be able to download xmms now, what is the error when you try it?02:53
Razor-X`mmmm, it's a sleepover, and it's 5:51 AM02:53
Seveasxaint, sure02:53
Seveasbut not in the channel :)02:53
Razor-X`heh02:53
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xaintseveas: dont worry :-)02:53
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xaintseveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/447902:55
DwightSeveas: did you catch the text i put above02:55
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stratovariusguys pls who may give me a repositories list  4 hoary?02:56
stratovarius*may = can02:56
DwightSeveas: when installing, it hangs at usb probe, the usb probe=false code did not affect this error in any way, it just hangs, so could you help me02:56
Seveas!repos02:56
Seveas!+repos02:57
ubotuhmm... repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource02:57
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SeveasDwight, sorry, can't help there02:57
emersonSeveas: I cannot stay here anymore I'm too stupid.....:(....unbelievable....02:57
DwightSeveas: it's ok, could you reccomend a different distro that may work02:57
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stratovarius!repos02:57
ubotuI heard repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource02:57
Seveasxaint, hmm, your sudoers file is incomplete02:57
Seveasxaint, as root, do: 'EDITOR=nano visudo'02:58
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Seveasat the bottom of the file that appears add the following line:02:58
DwightSeveas: i heard some good things about OpenSUSE, is it good like ubuntu02:58
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Seveasxaint ALL=(ALL) ALL02:58
emersonSeveas: I found man...02:58
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Seveasxaint, then save the file (ctrl o) and exit (ctrl x)02:58
Seveasit should work then02:58
xaintseveas: its on the end already., this all=all(all)...02:59
stratovarius!easysource02:59
ubotueasysource is, like, totally, For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:59
veloctDwight: I hear Fedora is good, redhat based02:59
ceeji just added ffmpeg using SPM and i can't see it in the applications menu. can anyone help?02:59
xaintseveas: save it as sudoers, replace the old, i quess?03:00
Seveasxaint, no you need a line that says 'xaint ALL=(ALL) ALL'03:00
Seveasjust like the line for root03:00
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teh_pwnererubuntu!!!!!!!!!!!03:01
teh_pwnerer:d03:01
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penguinzdrhi ubuntu guys!03:02
ceeji just added ffmpeg using SPM and i can't see it in the applications menu. can anyone help?03:02
nvezHello, anyone know's a link to network installs?03:02
bluebloodDoes Glut work with DX?03:03
xaintseveas: it works, finally :-) tried sudo apt-get update and it works :-) thanks... i thought i am doing something wrong and my file was broken. okay, so lets continue to learning :-)03:03
naliothxaint: so it was your sudoers list?03:04
xaintseveas: if your help is a postcardware, i can send you a postcard :-) (really)03:04
Seveasxaint, cool :)03:04
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xaintnalioth: yes, uncomplete sudoers.03:05
SeveasDennis Kaarsemaker03:05
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SeveasHoek van het IJ 4003:05
Seveas8223 BK Lelystad03:05
SeveasThe Netherlands03:05
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charles2005test03:05
Seveas!test03:05
ubotuFailed.03:05
Secreth`XSeveas, are you dutch?03:05
naliothxaint: my help is in my /whois03:05
SeveasSecreth`X, yup03:05
Secreth`Xhehe, en ik dacht dat ik alleen was :O03:06
teh_pwnerercan ppl refer me to book / web tutorial on ANSII C... for a unit relating to OSs03:06
mmarkerAnyone know the ins and outs of hal/hotplug and how Ubuntu set it up?  I've got a mess I need to fix.  Only trying to allow automounting of certain CD hardware.03:06
xaintnalioth, seveas: postcard of prague is enough?03:07
naliothxaint: i've been there03:07
emersonSeveas: I think I know what's going on the system tells me that it already dobe but doesn't show me the icone on the desktop.....03:07
xaintnalioth, seveas: and i can give you a link to my photos of my casting in film Doom, i was there :-)03:08
xaintnalioth: beautiful city of beautiful girls and ocean of beer :-)03:08
naliothxaint: quite03:08
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Secreth`XOk, when I installed breezy I had 2 CD drives. But now one is broken so I unplugged the IDE, but it still keeps showing up in `Computer` how do i fix it?03:08
xaintnalioth: so you dont want a postcard of porague or yes?03:08
naliothxaint: my address is not available, so i'll pass, but thank you03:09
Razor-X`nalioth: I know what you did last summer03:09
Razor-X`nalioth: you... *gasp*03:09
Razor-X`breathed!03:09
xaintnalioth: okay, as you wish :-) i hought its in your whois...03:10
teh_pwnererhmm is the kernigham book best to learn C? or some other one03:10
Naloshi does anyone know how I can enable my BCM4301 802.11b card on 5.10?03:10
naliothubotu: tell Nalos about ndiswrapper03:11
robotgeekubotu: tell Nalos about wireless03:11
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switchcatokay hmmm... so I'm TRYING to do a windows server netboot ala https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot  but I can't figure if my system can do PXE... it does have WAKE on lan under power management settings, but I don't know how to tell it to boot from the network as network is not a choice in the boot sequence options (and I can't write a disk to tell it to do that, because...03:11
switchcat...I don't have a system to write a disk from.) I didn't know what other features I might have to look at to get it to do this...?03:11
switchcatany ideas?03:11
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nvez!test\03:12
ubotuNo idea, nvez03:12
nvez!test03:12
robotgeekswitchcat: then you can't do pxe. though, i think you can do with a rom-o-matic floppy03:12
ubotuFailed.03:12
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nvezAnyone has a link to netowkr installs?03:12
felipe_hey03:12
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felipe_para que sirve el bash sudo??03:12
robotgeek!es03:12
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:12
naliothfelipe_: en #ubuntu-es por favor03:12
penguinzdr!bg03:12
ubotupenguinzdr: Not a clue03:12
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naliothfelipe_: o #ubuntu-br por portugues03:13
felipe_join #ubuntu-es03:13
felipe_?03:13
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naliothfelipe_: marqu /j #ubuntu-es03:13
Nick_Hilltritium, The topic contains non-ascii pipe characters which show up wrongly on many clients, both GNU/Linux and windows.03:13
naliothfat fingers i have, lol03:13
felipe_marqu / #ubuntu-es03:13
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NalosIt doesnt seem ndiswrapper doesnt support my card03:14
Secreth`XOk, when I installed breezy I had 2 CD drives. But now one is broken so I unplugged the IDE, but it still keeps showing up in `Computer`. How do I fix it?03:14
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robotgeekNalos: it does!03:14
veloctfelipe_:  "/join #ubuntu-es03:14
naliothNalos: ndiswrapper supporst broadcom03:14
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naliothfelipe_: tipea /j #ubuntu-es03:15
sexcopter8000mhi, i know this isn't ubuntu-specific, but does anyone have any ideas why my laptop doesn't _seem_ to be receiving any charge? it seems to be stuck on 57% charged...03:15
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TMM2hey all03:16
penguinzdrhow can i download backports via synaptic?03:16
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TMM2can someone tell me how I can get evolution to put all the email of my different acounts into the 'standard' inbox?03:16
TMM2I don't want seperate entries for my different mail accounts03:16
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penguinzdrhow can i download backports via synaptic?03:17
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snorkswill d2 maphack work with cedega? lets face it, life without maphack sucks.03:17
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xaintokay boys, problems ae fixed, thanks to all who helped me :-)03:17
xaintbye03:17
Dwight!help03:18
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Dwight!+help03:18
ubotuI learn mainly by observing declarative statements such as "x is at http://www.xxx.com", and then reply when people ask things like "where can i find x?"03:18
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penguinzdr!help03:19
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Nalosis there anyway to do a auto detection for wireless?03:19
Secreth`XOk, when I installed breezy I had 2 CD drives. But now one is broken so I unplugged the IDE, but it still keeps showing up in `Computer`. How do I fix it?03:19
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naliothNalos: if your machine doesnt see it during the install or regular usage, you'll need to read the info ubotu sent you03:20
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El_CheSecreth`X: remove the line referring to your cdrom at /etc/fstab (careful)03:20
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Secreth`XEl_Che, k, I'll try03:21
penguinzdrhow can i download backports via synaptic?03:21
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naliothpenguinzdr: you should have it in your sources.list03:21
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iivannHello03:21
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penguinzdrhi (or zdravei) iivan03:21
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penguinzdrnalioth: please tell me what line should i have03:22
Secreth`XEl_Che, I dont know wich one it is, /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd03:22
iivannI have a problem trying to install Ubuntu on my PC. The problem is that my CDROM drive is not detected by the kernel. My MotherBoard is an Asus p5ld2. Could it be a problem with IDE drivers?03:22
naliothubotu: tell penguinzdr about backports03:23
Razor-X`iivann: does Ubuntu not boot?03:23
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iivannRazor-X`: It does boot, but it never detects the CDROM03:23
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Razor-X`iivann: so, it never detects the Ubuntu installation CD?03:24
iivannIn the BIOS I can choose between compatible mode or enhanced mode03:24
iivannRazor-X`: yes03:24
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Razor-X`iivann: do other CDs boot?03:24
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iivannRazor-X`: lol...of course they do, if Ubuntu DOES BOOT, but once it boots the cdrom is not detected anymore03:25
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iivannIt's not detected by the kernel03:25
Razor-X`iivann: oh.... hmmm03:25
iivannRazor-X`: It's a IDE drivers issue I think03:25
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Razor-X`iivann: I'm going to have to ask someone else to take over right now, only because I haven't slept for the last 12 hours03:26
iivannRazor-X`: lol :D03:26
kbrooksI need some help03:26
Razor-X`iivann: i'm at a ``sleepover''03:26
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naliothkbrooks: ask, friend03:27
axelhelloo03:27
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kbrooksI need to automatically start Subversion on bootup. I don't have the init script.03:28
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naliothkbrooks: putting it in your startup sessions thingy wont do it?03:28
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kbrooksnalioth: on bootup03:28
axelDoes a command exist to "chmod" a directory and all its sub directories and files at once ??03:29
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kbrooksnot when gnome starts03:29
kbrooksaxel: chmod -R03:29
axeloki03:29
naliothkbrooks: init.d perhaps?03:29
axelthk u03:29
kbrooksnalioth: I checked03:29
kbrooksnalioth: Not there.03:29
iivannaxel: man man :)03:30
axeliivann, u mean manual ?03:30
naliothkbrooks: put it there?03:30
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iivannaxel: yeah, if you want to know a program's options, man program...03:30
Secreth`X!fstab03:30
ubotuhmm... fstab is /etc/fstab is a real pain for new users. The fstab file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.03:30
naliothkbrooks: ask uncle google about "linux startup scripts"03:30
kbrooksnalioth: that's counter productive ...03:31
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_chrishi03:31
naliothkbrooks: you are not getting any answers in here, it seems03:31
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Secreth`XCan you add something to the startup list of Ubuntu?03:33
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kbrooksSecreth`X: me?03:35
Secreth`Xkbrooks, what?03:35
Duveltell me about nfs03:36
kbrooksSecreth`X: question for me?03:36
Duvel!nfs03:36
ubotuhmm... nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.03:36
kbrooksDuvel: !, and /msg the bot03:36
Secreth`Xkbrooks, if you want to answer, yes.03:36
rikvaI have a big problem. Yesterday I partitioned a drive, and the second partition (hdb2) is ext3. I made it with mke2fs -j /dev/hdb2. I moved _important_ files from my homedir to that partiton. And today I can't mount the partition... it says it is not ext3! Any help please.03:36
kbrooks /msg ubotu nfs03:36
Secreth`Xk03:36
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kbrooksSecreth`X: i dont want to write a script manually03:36
Duvel!botsnack03:36
ubotu:)03:36
kbrooksDuvel: /msg the bot03:37
naliothkbrooks: he cant. he's not identified03:37
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Secreth`Xkbrooks, NFS is not what I'm looking, I think. I need something for starting up a program (for exemple gDesklets) when Ubuntu starts..03:38
Secreth`Xexample*03:38
kbrooksSecreth`X: that wasnt to you03:38
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xaint\whois nalioth03:38
mindtzarhello fellow ubuntu lovers03:38
mustard5welcome mindtzar03:39
Secreth`Xkbrooks, woot, sorry,03:39
kbrooksSecreth`X: the nfs03:39
naliothxaint: use the other / it works better03:39
kbrooksi mean03:39
kbrooksbrb03:39
Secreth`XYeah, now I get it ;p03:39
mindtzarubuntu came in the mail only 3 days ago03:39
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xaintnalioth: tried :-) doesnot displays me anything. what it can display?03:40
ShadowpillarI ordered about 20 cd's03:40
mindtzarand it has been my saviour03:40
mindtzar:D03:40
mustard5mindtzar, thats good to hear03:40
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Secreth`Xxaint, are you using xchat?03:40
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sH4hm.. i`m using xchat...03:41
xaintsecreth'X: yes03:42
Secreth`Xxaint, look in the tab called "Ubuntu Servers" there is the whois03:42
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naliothSecreth`X: not that way, that is confusing03:42
naliothxaint: find my nick on the right side and right click on it03:43
Secreth`Xnalioth, That works too..03:43
xaintSecreth`X, thanks, i see his whois now:-)03:43
Secreth`X:)03:43
mindtzar/whois mindtzar03:43
mindtzarthat works as well :O03:43
xaintnalioth: i am not so stupid, just i didnt expected it displayed in Servers window :-)03:44
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naliothxaint: nobody said that word. the user list is easier to get to03:45
[miles] afternoon #ubuntu..03:45
[miles] is the server version available on dvd with more packages please, or only cd?03:45
mindtzarof ubuntu?03:46
nalioth[miles] : only cd right now03:46
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mindtzarheh03:46
[miles] nalioth ah ok, thanks03:46
iivannbye03:46
[miles] nalioth do you know if there is a online package list?03:46
nalioth[miles] : visit packages.ubuntu.com and search for "ubuntu-server"03:47
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Shadowpillarwhat is uPNP?03:48
Secreth`XHmm, searching on the wiki didn't help me either..03:48
mindtzaruniversel plug and play03:48
mindtzaruniversal*03:48
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xaintnalioth: its easier, i know, but poor Secreth`X adviced me and it wasnot confusing for me :-) but yes, rigtclick on the right is what i know from the DC++ :-)03:49
Secreth`Xyeah, poor me :)03:50
xainthey, Nalioth, dont take it bad, it was not against you...03:51
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Secreth`X /msg nickserv set unfiltered on03:51
Secreth`Xwoops03:51
pc22nalioth, what is the control-alt-del in linux03:52
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Ophiocuspc22 try control alt BACKcpace03:52
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mustard5OMG0Dz0R, my 00bunt2 iz n0t w0rkin PLZ h3lP m3h!!! N0w!! ;)03:53
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server_newbieHi03:53
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mustard5welcome server_newbie03:54
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server_newbieI have ssh up and runnung with rsa however it asks for my pass phrase. is this normal? can I log in with out typeing the pass phrase?03:54
xaintmustard5: if you are bored of newbies, so play airsoft.03:55
mustard5xaint, :)03:55
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server_newbieus newbie we're not so bad... just dumb as boards about linux ;->03:56
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gnomefreakits not dumb its inexperence03:56
mustard5I'd love an easy question :)03:56
mustard5easy questions I can handle03:56
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server_newbieyep but with a little blood sweet and tears I'll get there !!03:57
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daveHi when i install wine i add the repositories then what? :O03:57
gnomefreakeasy like "how to open x-chat03:57
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unit01_argh i can't get skype to install ><03:57
gnomefreaksudo apt-get update?03:57
mustard5gnomefreak, thats about my speed, yep :)03:57
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gnomefreaklol :)03:57
gnomefreakmine too today03:57
server_newbiehow about getting rid of the pass phrase in ssh/ras ?03:58
unit01_can anyone give me a quick guide to get skype to install? :|03:58
soundrayunit01_, what's the error?03:58
Secreth`XCan you add something to the startup list of Ubuntu?03:58
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unit01_i downloaded the debian package03:58
naliothubotu: tell unit01_ about skype03:58
unit01_but when i search for it nothing comes up03:58
mustard5server_newbie, I wish I knew that one :)03:58
pc22nalioth, what time is it there?03:59
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soundrayunit01_, install it with sudo dpkg -i <packagename>03:59
server_newbiecool thanks for the answer mustard503:59
xaintunit01_: http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype03:59
bluefrog-10how do you prevent added users to logon locally, pls?03:59
xainti just love server ubuntuguide.org :-) the author's name maybe cutted in the stone :-)))04:00
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unit01_i've got xmms installed04:00
nalioth0900 pc2204:01
unit01_i've tried choosing play url04:01
unit01_but nothing happens04:01
unit01_anything certain i have to config+04:01
unit01_?04:01
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pc22ok04:01
naliothxaint: you didnt just say that, did you?04:01
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snorkswhat did he say?04:01
rikvaI have a big problem. Yesterday I partitioned a drive, and the second partition (hdb2) is ext3. I made it with mke2fs -j /dev/hdb2. I moved _important_ files from my homedir to that partiton. And today I can't mount the partition... it says it is not ext3! e2fsck says it has a bad superblock. Any help please.04:01
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unit01_status database area is locked by another process :(04:01
gnomefreakgnomefreak, doesnt trust ubuntuguide.org04:01
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naliothubotu: tell xaint about ubuntuguide04:01
gnomefreakthat was posed to have a star :(04:02
unit01_darn i don't get this04:02
mustard5rikva, what command are you using to mount it out of curiousity04:02
unit01_always get a error when i try install04:02
xaintnalioth: why? I know ubuntuguide, even his czech version. why you think ubuntuguide is bad?04:02
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rikvamustard5: just mount, because it is in my fstab, and mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb2 /media/hdb204:02
naliothxaint: read the info from ubotu, please04:02
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mahangu!ubuntuguide04:03
ubotu[ubuntuguide]  out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.04:03
soundrayunit01_, is this when you're trying to dpkg -i?04:03
xaintnalioth: read, sorry.04:03
laga!faq04:03
ubotufrom memory, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide is: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation or http://help.ubuntu.com04:03
xaintnalioth: next time i will read first and then second i will ask :-)04:03
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unit01_yes04:03
unit01_soundray, yes04:03
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teh_pwnererhi04:04
gnomefreaknot to mention it wont be updated for another couple months04:04
teh_pwnereranyone think they could help me with connecting to vpn by wireless04:04
teh_pwnererpls msg me04:04
soundrayunit01_, you'll have to quit synaptic / other package managers first.04:04
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lanjelothi fellows. Can somebody tell me on what window manager relies Ubuntu ? (metacity?)04:04
unit01_i did that04:04
unit01_still errors like can't processos or invalid operation install04:05
naliothxaint: ubuntuguide was good when it was written for warty warthog, but got out of date since then. using it with breezy is definitely bad news04:05
mjrlanjelot, metacity is the default, yes04:05
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TrackilizerI need your help guys, everytime i try to play a video with VLC i don't have sound, the picture is always there, only the sound is always missing.04:05
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teh_pwnerervpn pptpconfig wireless pls anyone??? :)04:05
soundrayunit01_, you've got the wrong package then. http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype04:05
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snorksTrackilizer: apt-get install vlc-alsa-plugin (or vlc-plugin-alsa)04:05
gnomefreakthat site gets thrown around here way too often04:06
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snorksTrackilizer: apt-cache search vlc | grep alsa04:06
murray__i've got /etc/acpi/sleep.sh working, but it takes about 90 seconds to recover (after being asleep).  Screen is blank for most of this time, and the harddisk is mostly not being accessed.  Ideas?04:06
gnomefreakdoesnt wiki have a section for skype?04:06
Trackilizersnorks, thanks alot, it worked.04:07
asfrahi, i need some better tool to handle pdf than xpdf, should I install?04:07
unit01_soundray, well it worked now. now when i try to install it i get this error"sudo dpkg -i skype_1.2.0.11-1_i386.deb"04:07
naliothgnomefreak: !skype or /msg ubotu skype04:07
unit01_Errors were encountered while processing:04:07
unit01_ skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb04:07
murray__also, hibernate runs, shuts down the machine and immediately boots it back up again, so technically, not working...04:07
gnomefreaknalioth, its not me looking for it someone else is04:07
[miles] thanks nalioth, sorry had to run to my daughters... will visit the package list04:07
naliothunit01_: what kind of machine do you have?04:07
TrackilizerNow the second problem i have is, everytime i try to open a mp3 file with xmms i get an error message telling me i should check my sound card or something like that.04:07
soundrayunit01_, that sounds like the command line to me, not the error.04:07
asfraDoes anyone have somthing to handle pdf (except xpdf) i need to be able to copy from pdf?04:08
mustard5rikva, just reading the manual for e2fsck, I wonder whether the -b option has any use in this situation04:08
snorksTrackilizer: Well, I changed output plugin from esd to ALSA in XMMS not long ago. It was easy. System -> Preferences -> Sound, then uncheck "enable sound server at startup", and then enter XMMS and set output module to alsa04:08
rikvamustard5: i tried different superblock numbers with the -b option (the superblock numbers from mke2fs -nj /dev/hdb2) and none work04:09
asfra!pdf04:09
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, asfra04:09
asfra!adobe04:09
ubotuasfra: Do they come in packets of five?04:09
asfra!xpdf04:09
ubotuasfra: Do they come in packets of five?04:09
soundrayasfra, xpdf should be fine for copy-and-pasting.04:09
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mustard5rikva, hmmm...ok04:09
mahanguasfra, try an apt-cache search04:09
unit01_i typed this "sudo dpkg -i skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb04:09
unit01_"04:09
mustard5rikva, I'm out of ideas04:10
Trackilizersnorks, once again thanks alot.04:10
snorksTrackilizer: remember that you wont get sounds (i think) anymore, and you need to define alsa as soundoutput in all your apps that produces sound. you'll figure it out04:10
TrackilizerWorked!04:10
rikvamustard5: me too...04:10
donzahello folks04:10
TrackilizerOh!04:10
unit01_abit an7, amd xp 300004:10
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er4z0rhello04:10
TrackilizerI'll work out how to do that, thanks again.04:10
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naliothasfra: please !dont !fish04:10
asfrasoundray, how? there's no way i can copy text to office..04:11
naliothasfra: it works better if you ask us04:11
er4z0rMy kpdf shows totally messed up text in some cases, any idea how I fix this?04:11
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soundrayasfra, select text by dragging from upper left to lower right. Paste with a middle-click.04:12
unit01_soundray, you got any idea what could be  wrong? i changed the lines as written in the ubuntuguide site04:12
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unit01_i then used the commands in ubuntuguide04:13
unit01_it downloaded but then i'm unsure whathappened04:13
soundrayunit01_, how many lines of error output?04:13
gimmihello, anyone got a problem with lookup of IPs using a D-Link G604t ADSL Modem router wifi, the issue is that IP are resolved into 1.0.0.004:13
unit01_404:14
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unit01_hr, pdd04:14
unit01_couldn't stat source package04:14
asfrasoundray, wheel click? what do u mean by middle click? if I right click what I have marked there's no copy04:14
soundrayasfra, yeah, wheel click should do.04:14
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Secreth`XCan you add something to the startup list of Ubuntu?04:15
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asfrasoundray, thanks alot man! u live and u learn :)04:16
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naliothunit01_: ubuntuguide will break your box.04:16
TotalNewbHi.04:16
rambo3its friday the 13 today04:16
soundrayunit01_, I'm not familiar with that error message.04:16
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unit01_does it work for the new version?04:16
unit01_cause i'm unsure whether it's all correct04:16
bluebloodwhats the ASCII for ALT?04:16
wickedpuppyrambo3, today is friday ?04:16
wickedpuppywhich planet are you on ?04:17
Secreth`Xlol04:17
rambo36oo6Ie.com is ascii04:17
unit01_lol i can't even get xmms to play a damn mp3 stream :(04:17
rambo3then give up ?04:17
travelleris there a simpler DNS config tool than webmin?04:17
fonkypijHi Guys04:18
fonkypijunit01 how come ?04:18
unit01_i choose play location04:18
naliothunit01_: you follow the ubuntuguide, your'e likely not to be able to play with your computer04:18
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unit01_insert location04:18
unit01_nothing happens04:18
soundrayblueblood, ALT is a modifier, it doesn't have an ASCII code.04:18
fonkypijdid someone try to use Automatix script?04:18
naliothfonkypij: dont use it04:19
bluebloodsoundray, hmm ok,04:19
fonkypijwhy not nalioth ?04:19
fonkypiji got no problem with it04:19
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naliothfonkypij: those scripts are written by people who are not familiar or as careful with ubuntu as they should be04:19
soundraynalioth, are the instructions by Simon80 on http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-40148.html safe in your opinion?04:19
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naliothfonkypij: they may work great for some people, but for some people they destroy their box04:20
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fonkypijit just adds some links to the apt/source.list file04:20
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fonkypijwhat the matter with that04:20
naliothsoundray: let me look04:20
soundraynalioth, thanks04:20
naliothfonkypij: i doubt it's as simple as that04:20
xaintnalioth: in this case i agree with you. they are too step-by-step, and user will not learn anything....04:20
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Secreth`XI give up, I cant find it04:21
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TotalNewbI have a simple, but kind of silly question about KDE. Does anyone know how to make it stop putting the little bouncing icon next to the mouse pointed when you open a program? It's just annoying :P04:21
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naliothsoundray: grabbing the static version of skype should be fine, rebuilding shouldnt be necessary04:21
NgSecreth`X: what are you looking for? ;)04:21
fonkypijnalioth, you must be kiddin04:22
soundrayThanks nalioth. unit01_, are you installing the static version?04:22
fonkypijdid you see the source?04:22
Secreth`XNg, A simple thing to add something to the startup list of ubuntu, if there is one..\04:22
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fonkypijit is just a DL script man04:22
fonkypijwith wget and apt-get04:22
murray_l3m: ta04:22
fonkypiji could have scripted this stuff04:22
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naliothfonkypij: some of those "easy scripts" have --force-all in them. when you force things you dont know about, things break04:22
NgSecreth`X: what kind of thing? A system startup thing or something you want to start whenever you log in?04:22
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fonkypijnalioth,  oh yeah i agree04:23
unit01_i just grabbed the debian package from here "http://www.skype.com/products/skype/linux/"04:23
fonkypijyou're damn right04:23
Secreth`XSomething to start whenever I log in, for example: gDesklets04:23
fonkypijbut the idea is good basically04:23
fonkypijIs that true that Ubuntu is noob oriented ?04:23
naliothfonkypij: if the writer(s) thought it out, yes, but most of only think of their own boxes04:23
fonkypijcoz i had to do crazy things in order for the box to work properly04:24
naliothfonkypij: it is user friendly on all levels04:24
fonkypijlol04:24
xaintfonkypij: yes, thats true :-) most friendly distribution, even better than mandriva.04:24
NgSecreth`X: ok, then there are two routes. If the program is smart, it will register itself with gnome-session and when you log out, you just tick the Save Current Session box. If not (and that will warn you if a program isn't going to come back up) you can put it in the manual session startup, which is in System->Preferences->Sessions in the "Startup Programs" tab :)04:24
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soundrayunit01_, well, nalioth's suggestion is to download the statically linked tar.gz package instead. I got skype working here with Simon80's instructions.04:24
fonkypijubuntu doesn t like my asus at all04:24
fonkypijfirst04:24
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fonkypiji had to disable my sound coard04:24
fonkypijin order to boot04:24
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Secreth`XNg, GREAT! thanks04:24
fonkypijthen reconf X in order to startx04:25
unit01_ok04:25
petihi. I configured gnome to have hungarian keyboard layout for a user but it's still english. what can I be missing, I am out of ideas atm04:25
fonkypijthis compile in recover in order to get sound04:25
fonkypijetc etc04:25
unit01_soundray, i'll download the static package, is the installation process as mentioned on the ubuntuguide site?04:25
NgSecreth`X: no probs. I would expect gdesklets will be smrt enough to get into the session the easy way :)04:25
fonkypiji don't call this 'user friendly'04:25
Secreth`XWell then it is my fault, but it didnt04:25
soundrayunit01_, no, follow the skype instructions instead.04:26
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donzafonkypij: hw support improves all the time04:26
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naliothunit01_: ubuntuguide will break your box. guaranteed.04:26
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NgSecreth`X: hmm, well it's a long time since I've used it, so maybe it doesn't do it04:26
fonkypijdonza, tell me about it04:26
donzafonkypij: maybe on dapper also your soundcard will work04:26
fonkypijlol04:26
donza:)04:26
soundrayunit01_, bottom of the download page.04:26
fonkypijdonza, it does work actually04:27
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unit01_yes i see it04:27
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unit01_do i haveto save the file on a certain place?04:27
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fonkypijdonza, had to rebuild kernel with m soundcard support04:27
fonkypijthen build alsa04:27
unit01_i get the error "no such file or directory"04:27
donzafonkypij: yep.. sounds like hw recognition problem to me :/04:27
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fonkypijwhich hw are u talkin about donza  ?04:28
donzai had loads of problems with my laptop back on hoary04:28
donzafor example with acpi04:28
fonkypijreally ?04:28
donzabut they seem to have fixed most of those on breezy04:28
fonkypijdidn't try hoary04:28
soundrayunit01_, do a 'ls ~/skype_staticQT-1.2.0.18.tar.bz2' to see if it's in your home dir.04:28
fonkypiji was a debian addict04:28
fonkypijin the past04:28
joosepwhy does gksu give me a "wrong password" error but kdesu doesn't?04:29
silversurferyes breetzy is laptop ready04:29
Naloswhy is it that i can read my windows(ntfs) drive on knoppix but not on ubuntu?04:29
fonkypijbut debian lacks packages upd04:29
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donzafonkypij: yep..04:29
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soundrayjoosep, things like that can happen with unusual passwords, eg. with trailing spaces.04:29
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bigfoot1can someone go to http://www.metacafe.com/watch/34020/levitation/ and tell me the direct link for the embedded movie file please?04:29
unit01_soundray,  no it wasn't there04:29
donzafonkypij: yup..04:30
naliothbigfoot1: your 'view source' doesnt work?04:30
joosepsoundray: but my password doen't have any spaces or weird characters, only latin letters and numbers04:30
donzai think many debian users have come to ubuntu camp04:30
bigfoot1nalioth: i tried that, but i can't seem to download it .04:30
soundrayjoosep, in that case I don't know.04:30
silversurferThey are04:30
joosepok, thanks anyway04:30
fonkypijio silversurfer04:30
fonkypijwhassup you bit**04:30
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fonkypijlol04:30
silversurferio04:30
gimmulf_How do i start sshd04:30
naliothbigfoot1: join #kubuntu-offtopic please04:30
gimmulf_?04:30
silversurfer/etc/init.d/sshd start04:31
soundrayunit01_, if you're certain that you've downloaded the file, it must be somewhere on your system...04:31
unit01_it's on the desktop04:31
soundrayunit01_, ahh okay.04:31
Nggimmulf_: check you have openssh-server installed04:31
donzadoes anyone have w800 or k750i mobilephone?04:31
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gimmulf_oki04:31
Ngdonza: k750i here04:31
fonkypijman i must build this apache shit04:31
bigfoot1nalioth: why kubuntu? i don't use kubuntu04:31
unit01_i moved it to the home folder04:31
unit01_same thing cam eup04:31
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donzaNg: do you have any problems with usb-cabel transfer in ubuntu?04:32
naliothbigfoot1: #kubuntu-offtopic is a quiet place for your offtopic education04:32
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naliothbigfoot1: the link is dead, anyway04:32
Ngdonza: the phone sometimes crashes, but otherwise no, it mounts fine. syncing with multisync doesn't work, but I can move files around ok04:32
ekimushi, i'm planning on setting up a server for a win environment, the samba stuff isn't the problem (auth, share, printers) but i want the users to be able to open office files and it should transparently start a ltsp session open OO.org (maybe even for browsing) anyone got good documentation links on that?04:32
donzaNg: i have problem with moving multiple files04:32
donzaNg: it quite often just crashes... have to force unmount it04:33
joosephow to manually start a new X session, like the "start a new session" button04:33
soundrayunit01_, you're not typing skype-version... literally, are you?04:33
donzasingle files moves ok.. but quite slow04:33
Ngdonza: I've had problems before with usb2 on some motherboards, blacklisting the usb2 module so it only presents usb1 has helped, although obviously at the cost of a lot of speed :/04:33
unit01_soundray, i type out the whole filename04:33
donzaNg: ok.. i have to try that.. thanks04:33
naliothbigfoot1: your question was offtopic, anyway04:34
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coaxhelp please! i need to find out a font string for use with xterm's -fw flag...04:34
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Ngcoax: xlsfonts may help, or xfontsel would be better04:34
soundrayunit01_, do a 'cd' to be sure, then type 'tar xjvf skype_' followed by the Tab key.04:34
unit01_ok will do that04:34
unit01_gotta go now04:34
unit01_thanks for the help so far04:34
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Myk3hey guys04:35
djk_hi, how do i enter the bios on old dell laptops?04:35
Myk3anyone chating here?04:35
Myk3f204:35
Myk3i belive04:35
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naliothMyk3: chatting in #ubuntu-offtopic please04:35
Myk3or delete and or f1004:35
Myk3one fo those04:35
Myk3hu?04:35
Myk3o sorry04:35
coaxthanks Ng... just what i needed!!04:35
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Myk3umm i have a question about dvd playback04:36
Myk3i dled libdvdcss and tryed to install it but04:36
naliothubotu: tell Myk3 about libdvdcss204:36
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Myk3but its like it doesnt want to install all the way04:36
Paradoxxany1 know of an app i can use to burn avis to dvd so they can play on my dvd player?04:37
Dr_Willisi think we need some more details Myk304:37
Myk3it goes to seting up lib... and then just goes back t the prompt04:37
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Myk3to04:37
Paradoxx!dvd04:37
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl04:37
Dr_WillisMyk3,  what command are ya using to install the file?04:37
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rambo3!porn04:38
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, rambo304:38
Myk3dpkg -i *.deb04:38
naliothMyk3: then you're done.04:38
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naliothMyk3: if it goes back to the prompt, everything worked and it is installed04:38
Myk3but when i try to remove the pkgit says notinstalled04:38
NgParadoxx: I'm not aware of any easy dvd authoring software for linux. There is something called mkdvd, but it's written in a very very rare language and can be a bit of pain to setup. Google can probably find an ubuntu or at least debian guide for it, if you really want to04:38
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naliothMyk3: because you didnt install it with apt-get04:39
Myk3thwen when i try to play a dvd it isnt working04:39
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naliothMyk3: read what ubotu sent you, please04:39
Myk3no im useing dpkg -r *.04:39
naliothMyk3: read what ubotu sent you, please04:39
Myk3k04:40
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shinuif i do: ps -eo "%c %z"|grep java and get java 370320, does it mean that java is taking up 370mb of ram?..04:40
ParadoxxNg: alright NG, thx... I'll try that04:40
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Ophiocushow do i restart the dhcp server?04:41
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naliothshinu: java sucks (literally)04:41
xaintnalioth: gave you a feedback, but donation will be when paypal will be secure in czech :-)04:41
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naliothxaint: thank you04:41
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shinunalioth: it does but... that much 0.004:41
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NgOphiocus: servers usually have an "init script" in /etc/init.d/ so you can just do something like "sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp restart"04:41
naliothshinu: yes, that much04:41
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shinunalioth: i mean... my friends run azureus under windows and it takes him 50-60mb...04:41
NgOphiocus: it might be named slightly differently though, so have a look first04:41
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xaintbye04:42
naliothshinu: how long and how many torrents are you running on it?04:42
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Ngshinu: ram reporting on linux is unhelpful at best, so it probably isn't actually using that much ram04:42
Myk3hey ubotu04:42
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Myk3i sent u a msg04:43
Ngshinu: and java doesn't suck, nalioth is talking nonsense ;)04:43
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fonkypijmmm?04:43
shinunalioth: about a day? or less.. and running 2 active torrents04:43
Myk3ok04:44
shinuNg: yeah but its actually kinda slow... and when my ram meter reaches its top, everything dies 0.0 until i kill something...04:44
frenetikHello, DRI stopped working after upgrading to Breezy from Hoary, following the Howto did not help, I see mtrr errors in dmesg and was pointed to rage3d forums, but didn't help either. Can anyone help?04:44
shinuNg: and java sucks imho :P just dont like it :P04:44
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Myk3is there new backports ?04:44
djk_what does "hd password is locked" mean in a bios?04:44
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naliothshinu: try bittornado-gui or bittornado ncurses04:45
Myk3means ur hd is lock04:45
GNULinuxernalioth: how do I use the backports? where is the repo?04:45
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naliothshinu: use the curses client in a terminal with 'gnu screen' and you can run multiple torrents with almost 0 system hit04:45
shinunalioth: they dont have capping and single file downloading... and multi torrents in one04:45
bob832when following the ati-driver install how to, and when i get to the step on creating the xorg.conf file, do i just go through selecting the defaults?04:45
naliothubotu: tell GNULinuxer about backports04:45
naliothGNULinuxer: use them with caution04:45
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server_newbieI have keychain up and running but I am still getting asked for passphrase at each login ? any ideas ?04:45
djk_Myk3: well yes, but what exactly are the consequences?04:45
GNULinuxernalioth: are they broken?04:45
shinunalioth: i thought of getting rtorrent but its not in the repos :/04:46
naliothshinu: and they dont kill your box with java suckdom, either04:46
naliothGNULinuxer: they are probably empty04:46
shinuhehe04:46
naliothshinu: build it04:46
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fonkypijsilversurfer,04:46
GNULinuxernalioth: empty? how dangerous can they be in that case?04:46
shinunalioth: too many dependencies :/ i didnt have time in the last few days... maybe during the week :D04:46
fonkypijsilversurfer, ta bta est louche la04:46
fonkypijlol04:46
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naliothfonkypij: english please04:46
Ngshinu: to give you some idea, I have had Zend Studio running for a few days and its jvm has a VSS of 435MB, but it's only actually using 80MB of RAM04:46
Ngthe VSS includes *everything* it has *mapped*04:47
fonkypijnalioth, i ain't english... and i wasn't talkin to u, so where's the problem ?04:47
GNULinuxerfonkypij: this is a english only channel04:47
shinuNg: whats vss?...04:47
Ngshinu: %z in your ps command04:47
fonkypijGNULinuxer, omg okay, nevermind04:47
Ngshinu: it covers anything it maps through the kernel (including ram), apart from physical devices afair04:48
shinuNg: i see... thats weird then.... xD04:48
Ophiocusok i ve got dhcp and a proxy running a home lan, sometimes lan looses the internet access, if i reboot it all comes up again, can anyone tell me if i may need to look into any particular dhcp - proxy setting? lease time or something04:48
Ngshinu: it's why X always looks so huge, because it will have the memory on your graphics card mapped one or two times at least04:48
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shinuNg: even though... my comp very often lags... when the xfce ram meter reaches the top that is...04:49
GNULinuxernalioth: what's the right way to see the available updates using apt-get ?04:49
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klemenscan someone help me with a wine problem pls04:49
Dr_Willisklemens,  and whats the problem?04:49
Ngshinu: sure, it may well be that it is eating ram. It's not java's fault though ;)04:49
naliothGNULinuxer: not sure04:50
klemensjust installed a program in a folder called program files in wine04:50
klemenshow can i access it04:50
Dr_Williswine path/to/whatever/command.exe04:50
naliothNg: it is not javas fault, correct. but since most java devs dont mind their code, java gets the black eye04:50
klemensok thanks i give it a try04:50
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Ngnalioth: the same could be said of things like gnome/openoffice that are quite wasteful with resources ;)04:51
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klemenswhat is the default path of wine04:51
Dr_Willisklemens,   there is none. :P04:51
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naliothNg: yes, but i have yet to find gtk apps that behave quite so horrendously04:51
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Dr_Willisklemens,  cd to whever the .exe is at and do wine foobar.exe or whatever.04:51
Ngnalioth: evolution04:51
naliothNg: and openoffice is java based04:52
GNULinuxernalioth: hmm, ok04:52
Ngnalioth: only a small part of it04:52
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Ngthe help system I think04:52
naliothNg: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic please and we can set off the fire alarms, eh?04:52
Nghehe04:52
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GNULinuxernalioth: backports are empty04:53
shinuNg: lets say its the torrent+java combination :P04:53
naliothGNULinuxer: yes, there are none yet04:53
Coburnihave some problem with  rox filer it give me an error when i try to mount floppy and cd rom ''04:53
Coburnsomeone can help me?04:53
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GNULinuxernalioth: heh ... I was expecting OOo 2.0 stable04:53
naliothGNULinuxer: patience04:53
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GNULinuxernalioth: yeah :)04:54
foobarhey, does anyone know how I can start an app with gnome (gnome starts up -> app starts up automagically)?04:54
GNULinuxerfoobar: sessions04:54
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GNULinuxerfoobar: Preferences > Sessions04:55
Coburnsomeone use rox filer?04:55
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Coburni have some problem with mount04:55
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Paradoxxwhy does file copying take up so much resources in ubuntu? or is this a general linux problem?04:56
tryingsomethingprobably file system type04:56
foxgamerHi all. I need to install a 'dialog' program, but I cannot seem to find any in the repositories. Can someone help?04:56
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Dr_WillisParadoxx,  never noticed it taking up much resources at all. - you do have 'dma' enabled on your hard drives?04:56
Coburntryingsomething how can i repair it ?04:56
Paradoxxhow do i check?04:57
mjrParadoxx, I'd check if you have DMA on on your disk drive(s) enabled, if IDE04:57
Ophiocusive logged to the workgroup of a win based lan, i can only see some of the folders but te rest got spaces in their names,. is that the reason i cant see em in lin?04:57
mjrecho04:57
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mjrParadoxx, sudo hdparm /dev/hda (and hdb, c, etc, for whatever you have)04:57
satinoi have installe mplayer and mplayer firefox plugin, but firefox is still using totem, how do i change this ?04:57
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mjrParadoxx, there should be a line  using_dma    =  1 (on)04:57
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Paradoxxmjr: yep, thats there04:59
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foobarThanks =)04:59
foobarGNULinuxer: yeah I found it, thanks =)04:59
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GNULinuxerfoampeace: no probs05:00
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GNULinuxerfoobar:05:00
mjrParadoxx, right, well, that isn't the problem then05:00
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Paradoxxmjr: kk...05:01
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Paradoxxmjr: its just that when i do copys, like from external device to hd, it seems to tax the system so much...05:02
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mjrParadoxx, usb drives?05:02
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SirKillalothow do  patch a bunch of files with a .diff file?05:02
mjrsome have said that usb drives tax the system, but I don't know about that so much05:02
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SirKillalothow do I*05:03
Paradoxxmjr: yep yep,....05:03
NgSirKillalot: patch --dry-run </path/to/file.diff  to test, you might need -p1 if you are inside a directory and the patch was made outside it05:03
flameyhi all: is there something similar to dreamweaver for ubuntu (or linux in genaral)05:03
SirKillalotNg, thanks05:04
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Hoxzerwhat is the best news reader for ubuntu?05:05
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AvenHello05:05
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NgHoxzer: I'd say pan :)05:05
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Dr_WillisHoxzer,  depends on how you define 'best'05:05
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Dr_WillisHoxzer,  pan is fairl;y well done05:06
xophErHi! What could be wrong; my computer freezes when I leave it unattended for a longer while.. like over night.. In all the logs everything is normal, but then suddenly stops.. Using Breezy05:06
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SirKillalotNg, I try patch but it doesn't seem to work, just no CPU usage, no output text and so on05:06
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HoxzerDr_Willis: easy downloads05:06
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Dr_WillisHoxzer,  for just grabbing loads of porn binaries.. there are binary-grabber type news readers...05:06
Dr_Willisthat specilize in that.05:06
Dr_Willis:P05:07
Dr_Williserr.. or so i hear. :P05:07
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NgSirKillalot: have you put the < before the path to the diff? patch reads the diff on its standard input (ie as if you typed it in), so the < redirects the real file into that input. if that makes sense ;)05:07
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HoxzerDr_willis: well can you tell me the name of them?05:07
xThiAg0http://www.linuxval.org/ubuntu/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=165305:07
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Hoxzeror name one05:07
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Dr_Willischeck out synaptic and see what ones are in the list.05:07
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Dr_WillisI tend to just use pan for my miminal needs.05:07
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Kenseyanybody ever gotten a plain old three-button PS/2 mouse to work with a laptop that has a Synaptics touchpad?05:08
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blueblooddoes KDE have any as easy to use remoteserver as Gnome?05:09
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rdzbtw. how to disable in the touchpad, that tipping on it behaves like mouseclick?05:09
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Dr_WillisKensey,  I have with usb mice - in the past.. none of my laptops have ps2 any more.05:09
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myrth_hi, i have an app that requires libstdc++.so.5 , how do i know which package i need to install?05:09
Dr_Willisrdz,  that gets asked in here all the time.. I think the wiki's have details.05:09
anamariait is possible to print from a hoary witch is on a switch with a windows xp (the printer is plugged on xp)?05:09
rdzok, thanks Dr_Willis05:10
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Kenseyit's actually a trackball but it shows up as a generic PS/2 mouse and works fine under Windows05:10
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anamariaor how i make a network with it05:10
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anamariai wanna use a printer from another pc05:11
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Dr_Willisanamaria,  with the printer cofig tool. i think you select 'smb' or 'samba' networked printer and tell it the name/path to it. or try the browse button.05:11
Ophiocusam really having a bothersome situation with network, highly unstable proxy, i cant feed internet to a local lan without loosing it every so often, only thing i can do is reboot05:11
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jessidhello.05:13
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jessidsome of you know how can I create my own cd of repositories?05:14
vbgunzhello all, I just installed sawfish *but* see no option for it under sessions when I log out... I also tried "killall metacity; sawfish &" but I am given error 5... Anyone know how I can try out sawfish and see if it is right for me?05:14
afv-13what is ubuntu's rss reader?05:14
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basti__Where do I change the icon for all my mp3s?05:14
vbgunzThe sawfish error is: "sawfish cannot open display: error 5"05:15
tryingsomethingdelete all mp3's >:) haha05:15
jessidWhat I mean is this: if I download serveral packages and I want to use them in a machine that has not internet access, how can I create a cd in a machine that does have internet access05:15
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vbgunzcan someone help me correctly launch sawfish and replace metacity... Not always *but* on demand so to see if sawfish is right for me... Help is very much appreciated!05:16
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Paradoxxafv-13: i use liferea, and it pretty much deals with everything i need05:16
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afv-13thanks Paradoxx05:16
Dr_Willisvbgunz,  could make a special sawfisn gdm entry that starts up sawfish and the gnome-panel.05:16
klemensIs there cross platform program for webcams (linux, windows)05:16
Ngvbgunz: you could probably just do "killall metacity ; sawfish ; metacity" in a terminal. That will kill metacity and immediately run sawfish, then when sawfish quits (ie you get bored and kill it), metacity will be run again05:17
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Bicchiis there a way to resize a lot images at once to the same size. Any programs out there that can do so?05:17
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SeveasBicchi, mogrify05:17
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Seveasfor example: mogrify -resize 160x100 *.png05:18
XenguyCan anyone confirm whether 'aterm' is a bit leaner than alternatives (xterm, rxvt, etc.)?  It seems like it is a bit lighter on memory when I compare through 'top'.05:18
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BicchiSeveas: is that on synaptic05:18
lesshasteXenguy: try rxvt05:18
SeveasBicchi, yes05:18
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basti__but there is no setting where I can change default icons for a mp3?05:19
Seveasin the imagemagick package05:19
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lesshasteXenguy: I don't think aterm is any better than that05:19
Xenguylesshaste: see above; I have, but aterm looks a bit leaner AFAICT05:19
BicchiSeveas: I can not find it05:19
Seveasin the imagemagick package <---05:19
Seveas!info imagemagick05:19
ubotuimagemagick: (Image manipulation programs), section graphics, is optional. Version: 6:6.2.3.4-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1301 kB, Installed size: 3688 kB05:19
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LjLcan anybody help me with locales/charsets? KNode isn't recognizing accents, though I'm not sure yet whether it's a KNode problem or a system-wide locale problem05:20
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lesshasteXenguy: have you turned off transparency?05:20
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lesshasteXenguy: the difference is very small.. much bigger savings are to made elsewhere.. what desktop?05:21
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simprixI just did a apt-get dist-upgrade to breezy and now x doesn't work. What is the command line to configure x05:21
snorkssimprix: /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:22
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aikonsudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:22
mustard5simprix, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:22
snorkser ok05:22
aikonfaster :D05:22
mustard5:)05:22
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aikonthere are some problems if you have install the nvidia driver05:23
aikonsrry for bad english i am germen05:23
PalleLapaikon, welcher probleme?05:23
PalleLapdu brauchst die debian pakete?05:23
mustard5aikon, you can always switch to VESA drivers as a temporary solution05:23
nalioth!de05:23
ubotuBitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe05:23
PalleLapheh, (write to me in private :))05:24
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naliothPalleLap: you should be registered to private message05:24
Xenguylesshaste: yeah, I don't use transparency05:24
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Xenguylesshaste: xfce4 since this is an older laptop (even then, I find it a bit laggy)05:25
jessidhello. I want to create my own cd of repositories...is that posible? how? thanks05:25
naliothjessid: see the debian new maintainers guide at debian.org05:25
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djk_what does "hd password is locked" mean in a bios?05:25
jessidnalioth ok ok. thanks05:25
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Vit1251hello05:26
aikonnee i dont have any problems05:26
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topylijessid: or just apt-get install maint-guide :)05:26
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mustard5aikon, I just realised that sorry :)05:26
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aikonnp05:26
jessidtopyli what is  maint-guide???05:26
aikoni means if you do a dist upgrade05:26
lesshasteXenguy: is that less resource hungry than fluxbox?05:26
mustard5aikon, yep05:27
lesshasteXenguy: how much RAM ?05:27
aikonyou must switch nvidia to nv05:27
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aikonbefore you upgrade05:27
Vit1251q.: ppp not onnect to FC05:27
mustard5aikon, type the nickname of the person you are talking to, before your message05:27
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Xenguylesshaste: no - fluxbox is a window manager whereas xfce4 is a desktop environment -- fluxbox would definitely be lighter05:27
aikonyou talk to all05:28
aikon:D05:28
Xenguylesshaste: 128 IIRC05:28
mustard5aikon, it's less confusing ;)05:28
aikonsry i means i talk to all05:28
topylijessid: the debian new maintainers guide as a debian package so you can have a local copy if you want to05:28
lesshasteXenguy: I imagine xfce is a bit heavy for that.  I would go for fluxbox.. unless you need a desktop for some reason?05:28
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villahi all05:28
naliothaikon: when you preface a nick onto your sentence, it highlights in the client of the person you are talking to (in most clients)05:28
jessidtopyli ok. thanks05:28
mustard5welcome villa05:28
Nick_Hill!ops05:28
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and nalioth05:28
villai cant run synaptic05:28
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villahelp me please05:29
topylijessid: the apt howto also explains how to create local repositories05:29
aikonvilla, whats the problem?05:29
naliothNick_Hill: may i help you?05:29
mustard5villa, please describe the error in more detail05:29
Xenguylesshaste: I was just experimenting -- I like xfce overall.  Typically I have used windowmaker in the past as a window manager; I find blackbox etc. a bit too lean ;-)05:29
villathere arent error05:29
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aikonvilla, use the bash05:29
villai make clic on icon05:29
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naliothNick_Hill: is there a problem?05:29
villaand progrand doesent runs05:30
lesshasteXenguy: take a look at http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/applications.html  . Out of interest.. what is missing in fluxbox for you?05:30
Nick_Hillnalioth, Hi. The topic for discussion is using non-ascii characters. I have asked around, and it is looking corrupted for others as well. Can you change the pipe to ascii | ?05:30
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mustard5villa, try sudo synaptic in terminal..and look for an error message then05:30
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naliothNick_Hill: dont use !ops unless there is a noticeable problem. we are not your personal helpmates05:30
jessidtopyli very nice...i will install it and read it. thanks again! ;)05:30
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mustard5villa, gksudo synaptic might be better05:30
Xenguylesshaste: but maybe I'll have another look someday when I have some time... Nothing was "missing", so much as it was an aethestic reaction I guess05:30
mustard5I'm confusing myself now..hehe05:31
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Xenguylesshaste: BTW I find the forks a bit confusing also - blackbox, fluxbox, openbox05:31
villamustard5 no eerror appear05:31
lesshasteXenguy: OK. I imagine you can make it look however you want.. unless you need 3-d buttons :)05:31
Xenguybrb05:31
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mustard5villa, have you just installed?05:31
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aikonvilla, reboot you system and try again05:31
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villai already done it05:31
aikonwhat will you do in synaptic05:32
aikoninstall some programs05:32
crubeDoes anyone know how to use cpkg packages?05:32
mustard5villa, have you just installed?05:32
jessida last question for now: every word that is said for debian is also "useful" for ubuntu? with useful i mean that if also works...05:32
b|akehey , just wondering if i should download the live cd or the other one ? i already have the live cd here just wondering if i can do the same install as i need from that cd then if i had the basic i386.iso thats not live ?05:32
aikoncrube, do you mean dpkg ??05:32
Nick_Hillnalioth, I used !ops to determine who to tell about the corrupted topic for the group. What should I have done?05:32
villaby default is installed05:32
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crubeaikon,  no I dont05:32
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aikonwhats cpkg??05:33
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villawhow can i reintall it?!05:33
Xenguylesshaste: how do you load fluxbox anyway (e.g. do you disable gdm or not?) ?05:33
mustard5villa, is this a new install?05:33
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aikonsudo apt-get remove --pruge synaptic05:33
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villayes mustard505:33
mustard5villa, did you use expert install?05:33
villayes05:34
naliothNick_Hill: asked in the channel who was was an op. !ops is for emergency use05:34
aikonvilla, what distri ???05:34
aikonbreezy or Hoary05:34
mustard5villa, your user account probably doesnt have sudo priviliges yet05:34
Nick_Hillnalioth, I have done this on two occasions in the last 20 hours.05:34
villammm 5.10rc05:34
mustard5villa, expert install does not set up sudo for the first user by default05:34
naliothNick_Hill: is the topic suitable for you now?05:34
Vit1251hello05:34
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mustard5villa, you will need to edit your /etc/sudoers file05:34
aikonvilla, if there any problems when you login in your system05:34
Vit1251you can view my message???05:35
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mustard5Vit1251, I see it05:35
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b|akeanyone ?05:35
Nick_Hillnalioth, It isn't the case of being suitable for me personally. But to look right for everybody. Thank you for makign the change.05:35
Dr_Willisb|ake, ?05:35
mustard5villa, you would have assigned a root password correct?05:35
b|akehey , just wondering if i should download the live cd or the other one ? i already have the live cd here just wondering if i can do the same install as i need from that cd then if i had the basic i386.iso thats not live ?05:35
Dr_Willisb|ake,  live cd dose not do an install.05:36
villayes i activate root acount by terminal05:36
b|akereally05:36
aikonvilla, if there any problems when you login in your system05:36
b|akegoddamnit05:36
mustard5villa, use the visudo command to add yourself to the /etc/sudoers file05:36
Dr_Willisb|ake,  the live DVD however can boot to a live mode. or an install mode - ihear05:36
villaaikon no05:36
mustard5villa, visudo05:36
villaroot05:36
Vit1251mustard5, hello05:36
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mustard5Vit1251, do you have a problem you need help with?05:37
b|akeso your sayin i shoulda got ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso , instead of ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso ?05:37
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Dr_Willisb|ake,  if you want to INSTALL - thenyou need the install cd.05:37
villaresolved05:37
tryingsomethingis there a big diff between 5.04 and 5.1?05:37
villathanks05:37
Dr_Willisb|ake,  or the dvd.05:37
mustard5villa, np05:37
b|akeyeah so i need to nab the ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso05:37
b|akedoin that now05:38
b|akei just figured the live cd would just giev me as many options05:38
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kinkoblastYeh, the livecd really ought to allow installation of a minimal system off of it.....05:38
kinkoblastBut it doesn't.05:38
villaa program to view tvcapture?05:38
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mustard5villa, xawtv?05:39
alvaro_hola05:39
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alvaro_alguien qeu hable espaol?05:39
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villai have try installed by i dont know xD05:39
villaalvaro yo05:39
villapero soy novatisimo05:39
villaxD05:40
alvaro_hola villa05:40
alvaro_tengo un problema05:40
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b|akethanks for the info05:40
mustard5villa alvaro_ engish only in this channel plz05:40
b|akegotta run05:40
b|akelater05:40
LjL!es05:40
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:40
koriocan anyone help me installing ut2004 demo? it asks for a symlink path, i dont know what to enter05:40
villaok mustard505:40
besfredwhere can i find the package maintainers of mono/libgdiplus in ubuntu?05:40
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weirdbroIs there any way to make the LiveCd version anything more than a demo?05:40
alvaro_me cai05:40
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aikonweirdbro, no05:41
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mustard5villa, you will probably need to enable the universe and multiverse repositories to get xawtv05:41
aikonweirdbro, muste download the x86 or x64 CD s05:41
alvaro_no consigo hacer andar la sound blaster 24bit en ubuntu05:41
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[A] ndy80alvaro_: #ubuntu-es05:41
koriocan anyone help me installing ut2004 demo? it asks for a symlink path, i dont know what to enter05:41
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alvaro_gracias05:42
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mustard5korio, type man ln in terminal you are looking to use the 'ln' command with the -s option I would think05:42
yhonatanhey,i have ubuntu and i want to install windows in hdb(ubuntu is in hda) some problems will happen?05:42
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naliothyhonatan: yes, but you can fix them with this05:43
nalioth!recover05:43
ubotuhmm... recover is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows05:43
yhonatanwhat?05:43
yhonatanno,i have ubuntu05:43
yhonatani want to install windows in other hd05:44
naliothyhonatan: read what ubotu said above05:44
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yhonatanbut its ubuntu after installing windows05:44
naliothyhonatan: if you unplug your ubuntu drive, you can edit the grub menu after windows installs to the other05:44
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yhonatanamm its the only way?05:45
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naliothyhonatan: windows will eat your grub otherwise05:46
yhonatanwindows sucks05:46
mustard5yhonatan, no argument there :)05:47
yhonatan:)05:47
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besfredwhere can i complain about incompatible packages?05:49
mustard5besfred, which packages?05:49
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Pajhi, just a quick question if i am ssh'd to a server how can i copy a file to my computer?05:49
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besfredmono and libgdiplus. the latest versions in breezy dont work together.05:49
yhonatanagain re-install of Ubuntu:(05:49
stratovariushey what is the command line to install java with apt?05:49
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besfredbut i guess they are in universe05:50
stratovariusi use hoary05:50
Pajis java on apt ?05:50
martin4775can anyone help with mounting floppy in ubuntu?05:50
Pajhttp://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-java i just followed that for java05:51
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mustard5besfred, what error are you getting with them?05:51
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eveles05:53
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besfredmustard5:05:54
yhonatan:( i dont want to re-install Ubuntu05:54
mustard5besfred, looking over the two packages in synaptic I can't see where either one refers to the other05:54
SionidePaj05:54
Sionide!java05:54
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs05:54
Pajhi05:54
lesshastehow would I rotate the whole screen by 90 degrees so I can see my rotatable lcd screen in A4 mode?05:54
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Pajhi, just a quick question if i am ssh'd to a server how can i copy a file to my computer?05:55
Paj:)05:55
besfredmustard5: when using libgdiplus from a mono app, i get this: http://www.pastehere.com/?piunhe05:55
mustard5besfred, thanks looking now..05:55
korioin which package is libstdc++.so.5 located in anyone?05:55
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LjLlibstdc++505:56
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martin4775is there a problem with ubuntu mounting floppy?05:56
korioin which package is libstdc++.so.5 located in anyone?05:56
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mustard5martin4775, on breezy I have read of some problems yes05:56
tryingsomethingsearch synaptic05:56
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basti__If I wanta software to for example use alsa where do I point it instead of /dev/dsp ??05:57
LjLkorio: didnt you just ask that?05:57
Seveas libstdc++5: usr/lib/libstdc++.so.505:57
korioLjL, didnt see annswer...05:57
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LjL[17:56]  <LjL> libstdc++505:57
koriodidnt see that sorry05:58
LjLok05:58
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Deterministany idea what apache runs on? i mean... the apache daemon, what user does it use?05:58
mustard5besfred, not knowing much about mono I'm a bit in the dark05:58
_nullHello, is it possible to resize partitions without loosing all the data on it? (They're reiserfs & ext3)05:58
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koriotnx LjL05:58
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mjr_null, yes05:58
_nullmjr, how?05:58
LjL_null: parted05:59
mjr_null, (g)parted can do that, plus there are separate tools also (wasit e2resize and something for reiser)05:59
LjLor gparted, or qtparted, i suppose05:59
Virtuallhello everybody... tell me please, what do I have to delete to make firefox use mplayer instead of totem? (mozilla-mplayer is already installed and totem removed, but it uses totem anyway)05:59
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mustard5besfred, bugs in main distribution are normally reported to bugzilla05:59
_nullLjL, does the installer suit my needs too? Because I'd like to resize my / partiton05:59
mustard5ubotu: tell besfred about bugzilla05:59
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mjrnull, I think reiserfs can be extended on-line (mounted), otherwise you want to unmount it first; try the live-cd if this is a problem otherwise06:00
besfredmustard5: thx.06:00
LjL_null: don't think06:00
_nullLjL, why not? Isn't it parted on the installer cd?06:00
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djk_i have a 6gb hdd, will 50mb /boot 2gb / 500mb swap and rest /home be enough for kubuntu?06:01
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michashello06:01
LjL_null: i think it's actually a simpler partitioner06:01
LeeJunFanwhat's the best way to search repositories to see what package has a file? and is ubotu aware of multiverse, universe?06:01
mustard5welcome michas06:01
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_nullLjL, ok... i'll try with the livecd then06:01
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Pajno one able to help with ssh ?06:02
mustard5LeeJunFan, I would think apt-cache show and apt-cache showpkg with relevant grep command06:02
michasI have a problem, how to make for "give xorg06:02
OrbordePaj: What's up?06:03
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Pajhi, just a quick question if i am ssh'd to a server how can i copy a file to my computer?06:03
michasbecause i must go to the help-terminal06:03
mustard5LeeJunFan, actually maybe not :)06:03
Pajwell copy a folder06:03
LeeJunFanmustard5: I think that just processes the packages you have downled.06:03
mustard5LeeJunFan, I can see a flaw in that idea06:03
mustard5:)06:03
LeeJunFanyeah.06:03
kinkoblastpaj, sftp support is buildt into the gnome file manager.06:03
OrbordePaj: Um....off the top of my head, I don't know. You can log in using sftp instead of ssh.06:03
Pajyeh06:03
mustard5LeeJunFan, well it does show unistalled stuff, but it assumes you have a packagename in mind already06:03
Paji tried sftp Cannot download non-regular file:06:04
Pajgot that06:04
Paj:(06:04
Paji assume with get cmd ?06:04
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murray_hmm. hiberating, /var/log/messages has "swsusp : FATAL cannot find swap device"06:04
murray_but /boot/grub/menu.lst has kopt=root=/dev/hda3 ro resume=/dev/hda206:05
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murray_any other ways to point swsusp at the correct device/file to use for hibernation?06:06
Virtuallhello everybody... tell me please, what do I have to delete to make firefox use mplayer instead of totem? (mozilla-mplayer is already installed and totem removed, but it uses totem anyway)06:06
mustard5LeeJunFan, *slowly dawning on me what you are trying to do* :)06:06
LeeJunFanmustard5: I'll have to look into auto-apt more to see how it does it, it says it installs packages automatically if you try to access a file that you don't have but it knows is in repos, and requires a database of available files.06:06
LeeJunFannow where to get that database. hehe06:06
djk_i have a 6gb hdd, will 50mb /boot 2gb / 500mb swap and rest /home be enough for kubuntu?06:06
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LeeJunFandjk_: yes, as long as you don't install a ton of stuff. Also there is a #kubuntu channel.06:07
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LeeJunFandjk_: I wouldn't even bother making /boot a separate partition.06:07
djk_LeeJunFan: i asked there ;)06:07
murray_is there anywhere else that might know about swsusp stuff?06:08
djk_LeeJunFan: so just / and /home + swap?06:08
LeeJunFandjk_: I see that now. I wasn't paying attention :)06:08
mustard5LeeJunFan, I wonder if packages.ubuntu.com would be useful06:08
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mustard5LeeJunFan, it has a search the contents of packages option06:09
LeeJunFandjk_: you don't even need to have separate /home and / if you don't want to, it might save headache later if you find you need more room in one or the other.06:09
LeeJunFanmustard5: I'll try - thanks.06:09
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djk_LeeJunFan: may i query?06:11
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mustard5djk_, how much ram you got?06:11
djk_mustard5: 12806:11
oidiaany good c++ compiler, easy graphical interface + good error messeges, for ubuntu?06:12
mustard5djk_, its sounds good to me..let me check how big my / partition is on gnome06:12
mustard5djk_, my / partition is half the size of yours and still not full06:12
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LeeJunFandjk_: I've got 3.4 gigs in / on my system but I have a lot of src stuff in /usr/src, and a lot of stuff installed too.06:13
mustard5djk_, actually its less than half..its 264mb06:13
mustard5djk_, I suppose I have /usr and /var too though06:13
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mustard5djk_, all up I think I have around 4 gigs including /, /usr and /var06:14
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djk_LeeJunFan: i only want to install XFCE4 and that's pretty much it.. of course i need to know which packages to download for xfce (only modem on the laptop so have to dl+burn the packages)06:15
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mustard5djk_, I think xubuntu uses xfce I dont know if its xfce406:16
gnomefreakanyone know of a list of GNU text editors?06:16
djk_mustard5: why do you have /usr and /var?06:16
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naliothmustard5: it is xfce406:17
djk_mustard5: xubuntu doesn't have a cd version yet does it? thought it's only breezy+ downloaded xfce?06:17
mustard5djk_, I chose an auto partition option in expert install while I was playing around with installing ubuntu..its just the way it set it up06:17
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lootubotu, ati06:17
uboturumour has it, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1006:17
mustard5djk_, I most likely don't need them :)06:17
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gnomefreakdjk_, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop06:18
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naliothjust for kicks, how do you remove metapkgs and all their depends?06:18
gnomefreakthat will install the xubuntu06:18
mustard5gnomefreak, he's on dialup06:18
djk_gnomefreak: i know how to get it on a machine connected to a broadband...06:18
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djk_mustard5: i personally am not on dialup, the laptop is ;)06:18
Lardarsedoes anyone here know how o enable dual monitor suppport on ATI cards ?06:18
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jake37djk > if you want the ubuntu cds aren't they offered as free cds shipped to you?06:19
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jah_raztahin openbox under gnome what to u press on the keyboard to bring up the run menu, default was ALT+F2 but that don't work anymore for some reason06:19
gnomefreakdoes xubuntu have a download for it yet?06:19
mustard5gnomefreak, I believe so, I have never checked06:20
djk_jake37: heh, i have a 2mbit line on this machine, but the laptop only has a modem no ethernet...so..06:20
jake37ooo...sorry...dunno anything about xubuntu06:20
gnomefreaki have someone checking right now06:20
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djk_mustard5: last time i looked i couldn't find a download section..06:20
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jake37djk > i feel for you dude...was on 56k for four years on a p166...<s>06:20
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Lardarseany1 ?06:21
VirtuallMY LAST TRY: tell me please, what do I have to delete to make firefox use mplayer instead of totem? (mozilla-mplayer is already installed and totem removed, but it uses totem anyway)06:21
djk_jake37: good ole times when writing the program by yourself was faster than downloading it ;)06:21
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Lardarselol djk_06:21
wuhucan someone help me figure out how to install totem plugins that allow for playing of mpeg files?06:21
bluefrog-10Virtuall, have you removed the totem plugin in firefox/plugin?06:21
jake37Virtual...try right clicking a music file and chose properites...go to Open with and chose your wanted prog...worked for me but not sure if it will work thru firefox06:22
mustard5Virtuall, I'm too sure how you would do that06:22
jake37I changed association from totem to xmss with that way06:23
Virtuallbluefrog-10, hm...06:23
Lardarsedoes anyone here know how to enable dual monitor suppport on ATI cards? so far i have them displaying the same thing, but that's not what i'm looking for...06:23
Virtualljake37, i meant when it's <embed>06:23
bluefrog-10Virtuall, hum what?06:24
wuhuanyone?  mpg files?06:24
jake37Virtual > okie...dunno about plugins and the like <s>06:24
erUSULwuhu, install gstreamers-plugins06:24
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wuhuthanks06:24
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DavidMahi guys06:25
Lardarse(brb)06:25
mustard5djk_, yeah..no CD yet...just read the wiki on the latest.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu06:25
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Virtuallbluefrog-10 Virtuall, have you removed the totem plugin in firefox/plugin? -- where??!06:25
KarlosIIMy Aunt boght a Dell with a Pentium 830 EMT64 processor, what precompiled kernel would be best for her to run?06:25
erUSULwuhu, install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse sorry06:26
gnomefreakther eis no download for cd version06:26
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bluefrog-10Virtuall, as written firefox/plugin directory06:26
Virtuallwhere is this directory?!06:26
jake37Karlos is it a laptop?06:26
gnomefreaki was gonna say if he had access to dsl06:26
bluefrog-10Virtuall, look for it06:27
mustard5djk_, looks like it won't happen until Dapper release06:27
KarlosIIjake37, no it's a full desktop06:27
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zygahello06:27
DavidMais it easy to upgrade 5.04 to 5.10 using apt-get?06:27
jake37Karlos > is ita  64 bit processor?06:27
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zygaI'm trying to compile a custom kernel06:27
zygaI still cannot get past the boot stage06:27
mustard5DavidMa, yes..we have instructions..06:27
KarlosIIyes pentium 830 whichis a EMT64 processor with no HT06:27
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KarlosIIdual core06:27
zygaI've compiled the reiserfs into the kernel, not as module06:27
mustard5DavidMa, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade06:27
DavidMawill it always be easy to upgrade to the latest version using apt-get?06:27
wuhuerUSUL, no can do.  it says it cannot mark all packages for installation.  something about gstreamer0.8-a52dec not going to be installed...plus a bunch of others06:27
DavidMai hate having to re-install from scratch06:28
zyga(I use raiser for /)06:28
mustard5DavidMa, yes06:28
zygastill it fails with unknown device (0,0)06:28
mustard5DavidMa, if you follow whatever official guides there are for doing so...06:28
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jake37Karlos> I would think one of the 64 bit .iso's but I am not sure which exactly...06:28
DavidMaok i will try ubuntu i think06:28
_ShoGo_hi ppl06:28
mustard5DavidMa, did you get the link?06:28
DavidMai usually use slackware but it's a hassle because the packages are not plentiful06:28
DavidMamustard5: yes, thanks reading now06:28
mustard5k06:28
_ShoGo_can anyone help me with falconseye?? as soon as i choose my char the screen gets black06:28
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KarlosIIjake37, well there is a emt64 kernel onthe list so I was curious06:29
gnomefreakslack is harder than ubuntu06:29
gnomefreakmuch :(06:29
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djk_mustard5: yea, and the wiki instructions require a inet connection :-/06:29
DavidMait's just a nightmare having to re-install from cd every 6 months06:29
Virtuallbluefrog-10, thanks, it worked!06:29
lagagnomefreak: but it also is fun :)06:29
DavidMaplus peter has some health problems which slows dev06:29
KarlosIIwhat whether there woud be any performance gains vs the amd64 kernel06:29
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gnomefreaklaga that it is06:29
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mustard5djk_, got usb drive?06:29
ramblingturtleis there anyway to have legal codecs for mp3 and dvd's because I would like to have everything legal but cant find anything online about it06:29
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DavidMawhy does it say to use "sudo"06:30
djk_mustard5: nope06:30
v4loHow could i listen mp3s on ubuntu?06:30
lagav4lo: with realplayer06:30
gnomefreaki went from slack to libranet and alwasy kept ubuntu on other drive06:30
_ShoGo_v4lo, with xmms06:30
jake37gnome> I have used about 4 distos...caldera, and three mandrakes...and ubuntu is the easiest to get up and running...provided you have partitions set up and ready...lol06:30
mustard5djk_, I think you can install ppp in the install options06:30
wuhuwhy is it so damn hard to install basic things on ubuntu?  every time i try to install things it depends on a zillion onther packages i don't have06:30
lagaubotu: v4lo about mp306:30
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, laga06:30
gnomefreaksudo is like a root in other linux os's06:30
DavidMajake37: why is that? no fdisk in the install menu?06:30
_ShoGo_can anyone help me with falconseye?? as soon as i choose my char the screen gets black06:30
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mustard5djk_, there is a section that asks what other modules you want to load at install and I am sure ppp is one of them06:31
gnomefreakwuhu? what are you having a hard time installing?06:31
lagaubotu: tell v4lo about mp306:31
djk_mustard5: of course i could sudo pppoeconf, but that still would require a _physical_ ethernet card ;)06:31
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wuhueverything.  let's just start with mpg plugins for totem06:31
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wuhuhalf the time i can't even find the packages in synaptic06:31
Ethan2wdg06:31
Ethanarg06:31
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mustard5djk_, the laptop has dialup? as in 56k?06:31
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Ethan**** focus!!!06:31
djk_mustard5: yes, only 56k06:32
gnomefreakmpg?06:32
wuhumpeg06:32
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jake37David> no I installed new disk and set up ntfs and a fat32 partion and left free space for ubuntu...about 15 gb...was much easier to do guided partioning and not worry about others on drive...plus I installed grub to floppy to reduce threat to mbr06:32
mustard5djk_, I have never tried it but you could see if you could get ppp set up at install and try to connect via command line06:32
DavidMai will install to a whole drive, i hope this is ok06:32
DavidMacan you mount ntfs in ubuntu?06:32
gnomefreakthat is concidered a restricted format no?06:32
Pabloyes it is06:33
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wuhui have no idea...new to linux06:33
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etamhi can anyone help me06:33
sunshine82im tryin to set up evolution can someone please help06:33
gnomefreak!restriced formats06:33
ubotugnomefreak: Did you get hit by a windmill?06:33
jake37David> it takes software to access ntfs I think...thats why I used fat32 to provide a sharing partiton between os'es06:33
gnomefreakyes :(06:33
DavidMajake37: which software?06:33
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wuhusooo...if it's restricted, can i install it??06:33
Pabloyes06:34
djk_mustard5: well, that'd mean i have to pay for some 56k isp while i have a _unlimited traffic_ 2mbit adsl line here ;)06:34
gnomefreakwhat is the command for restricted formats? for the bot?06:34
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jake37David> I have no idea really...I stick with what is working for my situation. No need to really muck around06:34
recoverWhen I double click on a video file Totem opens, I want mplayer to open instead, how do I set this?06:34
mustard5djk_, ah ok, I assumed you had an isp already :)06:34
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kapputuIn firefox, if I chose to open a particular file format with a particular application and chose 'Do like this from now on' why doesn't it do it that way again06:35
Pabloubotu tell wuhu about restricted formats06:35
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jake37recover> right click media file and chose properties...go to Open with tab and chose program you want to use...and select always open with this prog if it is in dialog06:35
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wuhuoik06:35
wuhuok06:35
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gnomefreakty06:35
Pablo:)06:35
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gnomefreaki cant remember the commands for the bot too many :(06:35
djk_mustard5: naa ;) the laptop will never go online anyway so no need for a 56k contract ;) especially because of the 2mbit line.06:36
zygacan anyone help me iwith kernel compilation?06:36
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steiggnomefreak: do you know, if i can edit the context menu of gnome according to my individual wishes?06:36
raghuzyga: google for kernel compilation06:37
raghuzyga: good docs are online06:37
recoverI can only have a program with sound at a time, how can I fix this?06:37
gnomefreaksteig: context menu as in if you right click on desktop?06:37
zygaraghu: I don't care about generic compilation, I want to know how to rebuild the default kernel, identical to the one shipped with ubuntu06:37
omegHi guys. If I wanted to make suggestions to the Ubuntu art/aesthetics team, then how would I be able to contact them (or any institution that accepts such suggestions)? I intend to make elaborate descriptions with image references.06:37
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steiggnomefreak: yes06:38
zygaomeg: try in #ubuntu-devel maybe, or the mailing list06:38
omegOkay, thanks.06:38
gnomefreaki dont know of a way to edit that at all06:38
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soundrayzyga: just curious: why do you want to compile the kernel?06:39
zygasoundray: I want to add suqashfs and unionfs *later*06:39
gnomefreaki remember a while ago i got a terminal in there but thats what that terminall does itself06:39
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zygaI just want to get a compiled kernel that works06:39
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kapputufirefox that comes with ubuntu seems to be slow06:39
zygaall previous attempts (with default configs) couldn't mount my reiserfs /06:40
Pablodoes anyone have a link for the win32 codecs?06:40
steigkapputu: i agree06:40
soundrayzyga: so it's a learning thing more than anything else?06:40
jbroome!w32codecs06:40
ubotuwell, w32codecs is for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/06:40
zygaeven after adding reiser support as a static stuff06:40
steigff is slow on ubuntu06:40
Pabloty06:40
kapputupablo  - /msg ubotu w32codecs06:40
gnomefreakkapputu: do a google search for firefox tweaks06:40
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zygasoundray: learing now but I'm trying to build a live cd based on ubuntu06:40
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Pajwhat is the command to copy a directory from an ssh server ?06:40
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jah_raztahin openbox under gnome what to u press on the keyboard to bring up the run menu, default was ALT+F2 but that don't work anymore for some reason06:41
N6REJmorning everyone... I want to know how to pass a file that has a list of filenames that I want apt-get to install to apt-get06:41
kapputugnomefreak, did you take out the default firefox and install a new one?06:41
steigPaj: cp?06:41
gnomefreakno kapputu06:41
Pajdoesnt seem to work :(06:41
soundrayzyga: are you aware of the dfsbuild package06:41
N6REJpaj scp06:41
soundrayzyga: ?06:41
rem_scp -r ?06:42
kapputuactually 5.10 is slow compared to warty06:42
zygasoundray: no, checking06:42
sunshine82im tryin to set up evolution can someone please help06:42
kapputuI know I don't have a great machine06:42
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gnomefreakkapputu there are tweaks to make it run faster06:42
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Pajhmm06:42
rem_anyone has experience stting up opengroupware server .. ?06:42
zygasoundray: hmm06:42
kapputugnomefreak, where?06:42
rem_on ubuntu06:42
Paji want to copy the file from ssh server to my own pc06:42
soundrayzyga: Haven't tried it myself, but it does sound promising.06:42
zygasoundray: I'd like to build a small cd, only basic stuff and 3 tools, I was also willing to use live-scripts.org stuff06:43
gnomefreakkapputu do a search for firefox tweaks06:43
jake37Paj > try this link  http://www.akadia.com/services/ssh_tips_and_tricks.html06:43
rem_scp -r "foldername" user@yourpc:/~06:43
zyga(squashfs + unionfs are better than what ubuntu is using now)06:43
Pajk thx06:43
rem_-> paj06:43
N6REJanyone know how to output a list of files to apt-get?06:43
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kapputugnomefreak, I'm talking about Ubuntu being slow in general - I have 256mb on a P-III 850 HP Laptop06:43
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gnomefreakim not on my ubuntu pc rtight now and the updates for this are taking forever or i would get you the sites i use06:43
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rem_anyone has experience stting up opengroupware server .. ?06:44
rem_on ubuntu06:44
soundrayzyga: I used to compile kernels all the time. Nowadays I'm grateful for Ubuntu because most kernels *just work*06:44
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soundray* stock kernels06:44
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gnomefreakkapputu: that is between you and ubuntu and your pc you asked about firefox06:44
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v4loanyone ahve experience palying half life1 with wine on ubuntu?i cant make it work.06:44
zygaI want to build any kernel that just works here :)06:44
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kapputuubuntu has taken off mainly due to the support06:44
zygaeach attempt lasted for 3 hours and failed06:44
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adriyelzyga, ever heard of genkernel?06:45
kapputupeople here want to help which is one of the main reasons I stayed with Ubuntu06:45
zygaadriyel: no, checking :-)06:45
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zygaadriyel: is it gentoo specific/06:45
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mustard5v4lo, you would have more luck with cedega I would think06:46
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adriyelzyga, *shrugs* I've used it in slackware...06:46
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x_linewould anyone know anything about setting up my linux router to route to the internet through my dail-up connection, I am using ubuntu breezy06:48
LoneWolf071is there anby limit to the number of outbound/inbound ports i can connect to?06:48
LoneWolf071cause when i have like 5 apps all connecting to the net, one always goes down, like GAIM06:49
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LoneWolf071is there anby limit to the number of outbound/inbound ports i can connect to?06:50
adriyelLoneWolf071, no, not to my knowledge06:50
sunshine82i want to setup my hotmail on evolution does anyone know how06:50
wuhuah forget it, this is stupid.  going back to windows06:50
LoneWolf071wuhu, what's up?06:50
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antonio_phlipmode: dime a ver tiguere06:50
phlipmodegood idea:P06:50
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LoneWolf071wuhu, what's the problem?06:51
wuhunothing works.  i can't install a damn thing.06:51
LoneWolf071apt-get06:51
wuhu"the pack is not installable"06:51
wuhu"can't install"06:51
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yanchengis the any download tool like get right, download accelerator in ubuntu?06:51
soundrayx_line, can I have more detail on your setup. Serial modem on your Ubuntu box?06:51
LoneWolf071wuhu you of course need to read some thing to learn06:51
erUSULLoneWolf071, there are 65536 - 1024 ports in a machine06:51
wuhuthanks, that's helpful06:51
ubuntuubuntu "crashed" and now I can't open the filesystem explorer06:51
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ubuntucan I restart it or something06:51
wuhui've spent 2 weeks trying to install basic things on ubuntu.  this is dumb06:52
ubuntus/this/you06:52
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Ophiocusheh06:52
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jonazheyhey06:53
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ramblingturtleubuntu: ctrl + alt+ backspace06:53
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robotgeekubotu: tell wuhu about repos06:53
ubuntuI'm listening to virgin radio classic rock06:53
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ubuntuhaha06:53
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jonazis there a way to create an HFS+ partition?06:53
ubuntu"unexpected end of stream"06:53
jonazi installed ubuntu on my ibook06:53
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jonazand left 40gigs unformated06:53
jonazbut the os x installer does not want to install os x06:53
deus___Im having problems with my printer06:53
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deus___i use the hp printers, from foomatic?  and when i test the printer which is a Deskjet 840c06:54
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deus___It keeps printing a page with some jibberish on the first line06:54
pierre__anyone know where i can find the source code for 2.6.12-9-k706:54
jonazno  i want to try to create an hfs+ partition and install it then with the installer06:54
deus___im running amd6406:54
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ubuntuctrl alt backspace didn't help06:55
jonazno=now06:55
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bluefrog-10pierre__, linux-headers06:55
ubuntuor was it just a really funny joke06:55
icemanOfftopic question, I need a Distro that can install and server Internet conectivity to a bunch of window systems and server as a web based server ...06:55
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pierre__bluefrog -- msg me please06:55
robotgeekjonaz: aghh..always install the pesky OS first!06:55
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unit01_hello again06:56
bluefrog-10pierre__, install linux-header for your K7 in synaptic...06:56
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soundrayHi unit01_06:56
jonazi tried that, too. but os x did not let me resize the partition :-/06:56
ramblingturtleubuntu: it was not a joke sometimes it works for me and others it does not but I thought it was worth a try. so you will have to either do a normal reboot or try restarting that application06:56
unit01_hello soundray06:56
unit01_i just got back, rebooted the os06:56
Ahmuckis there a way to get UTF-8 JS encoding to work from the live cd >06:56
ubuntuhow do I restart "that" application?06:56
robotgeekjonaz: you gotta do it from the first screen itself06:56
unit01_and changed some lines in the sources list06:56
axelhello, i have a quick question, to encode mp3 which is better between "joint stereo" and "stereo" ?06:56
unit01_some invalid urls in there06:56
ramblingturtleubuntu: what are you trying to do exactly06:56
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ubuntuI can't right-click the desktop or open the file system explorer06:56
unit01_just recently had dinner so now i got the patience :)06:57
robotgeekjonaz: as soon as you boot, pick the File menu, and partition manager. it will not allow you to partition later06:57
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ramblingturtleubuntu: did you just install or did the problem just start on it own06:57
Lardarsewhere is the "Synaptic Package Manager" ?06:57
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robotgeekjonaz: i mean after you see the gui for installation and stuff06:57
ubunturamb: I just installed06:57
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soundrayLardarse, System-Administration06:57
ubuntubut problem started after some application crashed06:57
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gnomefreakLardarse, click system and than the 2nd one down06:58
gnomefreaki cant think of it right now06:58
jonazrobot, you mean the os x installer?06:58
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ramblingturtleubuntu what application and what did you install on06:58
gnomefreakty soundray06:58
robotgeekjonaz: yeah, the OS X installer06:58
Lardarseok, i see it...06:58
jonazi looked there :-/06:58
ubuntuamd6406:58
wuhuok, i'm out, going to try this.  ubuntu has until the end of the day to impress me or it's back to windows06:58
jonazwith the disk utility06:58
ubuntuI don't know what application06:58
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neejawuhu: you arent trying hard enough06:58
ReleaseXdoes anyone here play glest?06:58
ramblingturtleubuntu: have you done a update since you installed06:58
gnomefreakwuhu: your gonna need more time than a day06:58
ubuntuno06:58
DShepherdgood morning everyone. Having your cup or brown sugar (ubuntu) i see06:59
DShepherdof*06:59
Secreth`XOk, printer question.. I added my printer, but It doesnt print :x06:59
unit01_soundray, doesn't ubuntu have anything directly from the start that can handle deb files?06:59
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neejagood morning shepherd06:59
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gnomefreakwuhu: you didnt like windows first time you used it did you?06:59
wuhui've already given it 2 weeks.  what the hell else more do i need.  at least windows works right out of the box06:59
ubuntuhaha06:59
ramblingturtleubuntu: go into synaptic and do a upgrade do you know what I am talking about06:59
ubuntuyes06:59
soundrayunit01_, sure it does. What's the prob right now?06:59
Lardarsewuhu: windows ! fun06:59
Lardarseoops06:59
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Lardarse!=06:59
ubotuLardarse: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?06:59
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ramblingturtlethen try that06:59
Lardarsehmm...06:59
mommerHi. I'm having troubles with the printer. The driver seems to be there, and I've installed it, but it just won't print anything (yes, it is connected and on, has paper, etc)07:00
ubunturambling: I'm running a live CD07:00
mommerany ideas?07:00
unit01_soundray, i try to open the deb package with archive manager and it says archive type not supported07:00
gnomefreak!windows07:00
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, windows is unnecessary, everything runs in Linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office or find an !alternative, or what you remove to make room for kubuntu07:00
Lardarsewhat's the easier way to upgrade without a CD?07:00
blueblood!themes07:00
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Secreth`X!printer07:00
ramblingturtlewell that is a whole other thing altogether07:00
ubotuI heard printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org07:00
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Mannyhi07:00
djk_Secreth`X: usb printer? if so, check if you used the right usb port when adding it.07:00
Mannyis there also a developer channel?07:00
soundrayunit01_, man dpkg-deb07:00
pierre__i am trying to build a program called TrueCrypt07:00
robotgeekblueblood: check art.gnome.org07:01
gnomefreakLardarse, upgrade to breezy?07:01
pierre__and it asked for the source directory07:01
ramblingturtleubuntu: i thought you said you installed07:01
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bluebloodrobotgeek, yea, the bot told me :)07:01
Secreth`Xdjk_, thats right, usb. But it didnt ask me to give a port of the usb :x07:01
Lardarsegnomefreak: yeah, i only had the hoary CD :-/07:01
neeja!themes07:01
robotgeekblueblood: ah, okay..07:01
zygaManny: ubuntu-devel07:01
pierre__it couldnt find stdlib.h07:01
Mannyzyga, thanks07:01
ubunturamblingturtle, running the live CD is close enough to installing07:01
bluebloodrobotgeek, got any favorit theme?07:01
pierre__when  I gave /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-k7 as the source directory07:01
pierre__any ideas?07:01
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ubunturamblingturtle, I don't want to install if applications are going to unexpectedly crash07:01
djk_Secreth`X: i don't know how it's done in gnome, but in kde's printing manager you have to choose the usb port.07:02
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anathema_is there a way to get rid of the damn error any time trying to play a wmv that says its not looking like what it is supposed to be so ive got to right click and select the prog to open it with07:02
anathema_i just wanna double click and open it07:02
ramblingturtleubuntu: no it is not close to install it is something completely different07:02
mindtzarhey, could someone tell me how to hide a folder from view?07:02
Secreth`XIm in the printing manager right now07:02
ubunturamblingturtle, it's more likely to crash?07:02
gnomefreaktheres a wiki page on it for the most part it is changing you sources to breezy from hoary and changing the backports than apt-get update than apt-get dist-upgrade but i advise looking at the wiki page if you give me a min ill try to find it07:02
robotgeekblueblood: http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7813/screenshot16gl.png07:02
djk_anathema_: set a file association.07:02
ReleaseXdoes anyone here play glest?07:03
ubuntuwhat's the default root password?07:03
DShepherdmindtzar: put a dot in front of the name example ".folder"07:03
gerbma1ubuntu, i don't think there is one07:03
djk_ubuntu: there isn't any.07:03
ubuntufor the livecd07:03
adriyelubuntu, isn't any.07:03
anathema_djk_: i did, i selected to open it wiht mplayer07:03
ubuntubecause you aren't asked to set it07:03
ramblingturtleubuntu: i have nevered had great experiences with live cd's but that is just me you may want to try a dual boot or something to get a real idea07:03
ubuntublank pass?07:03
djk_ubuntu: livecd dont have a root pw07:03
adriyelubuntu, there is not one.07:03
mindtzarthank you DShepherd07:03
mindtzar:)07:03
anathema_but it still gives me the error07:03
Lardarseubuntu: go into th users screen and change it there if you plan to do anything that will need it07:03
DShepherdmindtzar: np07:03
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ubuntuI just like running everything as root07:04
ubuntuit feels good07:04
Lardarselol07:04
ubuntuwebserver etc07:04
Lardarsei had  friend klike that once07:04
djk_anathema_: weird, better ask someone who uses mplayer.07:04
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DShepherddoes anyone here use a browser other than firefox under ubuntu?07:04
soundrayLardarse, bet he got wiped out by an accidental rm -f /07:04
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gnomefreakLardarse,  the page is in the topic just type /topic and click the link for upgrading07:05
ubuntudsheperd I use wget07:05
Lardarsei have the page...07:05
DShepherdubuntu to surf?07:05
Lardarsebut i don't understand what i have o do07:05
anathema_its not mplayer07:05
gnomefreakDShepherd, i have oprea and lynx and links207:05
ubuntuyeah07:05
anathema_its gnome07:05
carambolDsheperd,opera07:05
robotgeekDShepherd: there's lynx/elinks/link207:05
ubuntuwget and cat07:05
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mikelinuxim downloading opera now07:06
gnomefreakLardarse, that link is prolly gonna be the easiest to understand07:06
mikelinuxi have a question07:06
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DShepherdgnomefreak: how is sound in flash?07:06
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DShepherdrobotgeek: links2 is GUI?07:06
mindtzarsee when renaming something, how do you do it07:06
mindtzarbecause the help for it is ocnfusing me07:06
carambolmikelinux: use opera-static07:06
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mindtzari tried rename folder newname07:07
simprixI just did a dist-upgrade to breezy and it didn't upgrade mythtv. Im trying to install it and I get errors like this The following packages have unmet dependencies:07:07
robotgeekDShepherd: you can run it with the -g for links graphic07:07
simprix  mythtv: Depends: mythtv-frontend (= 0.18.1-5) but it is not going to be installed07:07
pierre__Has anyone tried to build TrueCrypt on Ubuntu 5.10 for the k-7 kernel07:07
simprix          Depends: mythtv-backend (= 0.18.1-5) but it is not going to be installed07:07
simprixE: Broken packages07:07
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simprixBut when i do them by themselves i get more errors like that07:07
DShepherdrobotgeek: ok. How is sound in flash for links?07:07
gnomefreaksimprix, dont paste in here use pastebin07:07
mikelinuxwhy my firefox close sometimes without reason07:07
gnomefreakim not sure i havent used oprea in a few weeeks07:07
mwemindtzar: mv07:07
robotgeekDShepherd: hmm, you got me on that one. i don't do flash07:07
gnomefreakmikelinux, that sounds like its crashing07:08
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annaandlevhi07:08
unit01_soundray, weird, i've downloaded the deb file and am now following the instruction from the skypehowto but i get a error that says no such file or directory07:08
mikelinuxyup07:08
gnomefreaki dont use flash either but i think i have it07:08
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annaandlevevery time my computer idles with ubuntu, the mouse goes black07:08
mikelinuxand i have the latest version07:08
gnomefreaklatest stable version?07:08
DShepherdrobotgeek: http://www.quake4game.com/ and anybody else who is not using firefox check the link and tell me if you have sound?07:08
annaandlevor has wierd, grayscale colors07:08
mikelinuxyes07:09
Lardarsegnomefreak: do i have to change the "distributiuon" for the update and security update entries ?07:09
robotgeekDShepherd: no flash here, sorry07:09
soundrayunit01_, pls paste the recent commands and output via http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/07:09
DShepherdrobotgeek: ok07:09
[miles] hello again... anyone running Open-Xchange on Ubuntu?07:09
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DShepherdrobotgeek: why not? religious thing? :)07:09
annaandlevevery time my computer idles with ubuntu, the mouse goes black or has wierd, grayscale colors07:09
annaandlevwhat can i do?07:10
gnomefreakLardarse, you have to change hoary to breezy everywhere you see hoary in your sources list change it to breezy07:10
Lardarseok07:10
simprixI just did a dist-upgrade to breezy and it didn't upgrade mythtv. Im trying to install it and I get errors like this http://pastebin.com/42799907:10
kapputuare there any performance tweaks for Ubuntu??07:10
robotgeekDShepherd: it's mostly not useful. too many flash ads. slow machine :)07:10
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unit01_soundray, i did, it's under unit01_07:10
DShepherdrobotgeek: that's one way to look at ti07:10
DShepherdit*07:10
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mwekapputu: disable any service you don't use is one07:11
pavkaanybody here use xen from http://mirror.clarkson.edu/pub/distributions/xenophilia/xen-debs/ubuntu on ubuntu?07:11
DShepherdrobotgeek: opera is in the repos?07:11
mikelinuxkapputu are there any performance tweaks for Ubuntu??.................yes07:11
kapputumwe, where do I find a list of services running07:11
mikelinuxnop07:11
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robotgeekDShepherd: probably not, no07:11
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gnomefreakDShepherd, no07:11
kapputumikelinux, I tried googling for ubuntu performance tweaks - couldn't find much07:11
mikelinuxwget http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/infosys/browsers/opera/linux/850/final/en/i386/shared/opera_8.50-20050916.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb07:12
DShepherdgnomefreak: robotgeek ok, So I need to go to the site then?07:12
superbeasthow could i open a window as root?07:12
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superbeastwithout terminal07:12
gnomefreaksimprix, it looks like that you dont have the right repos enabled07:12
DShepherdgnomefreak: you use opera without flash too?07:12
unit01_soundray, my system is on a scsi disk if it makes any difference07:12
mikelinuxsuperbeast how could i open a window as root?........................sudo nautilus07:12
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mikelinuxon a terminal07:12
superbeastthanks07:12
mwekapputu: I think there is a GUI tool in gnome. I don't remember the name though since I do it from the console07:12
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gnomefreakDShepherd, go to www.oprea.com download the ubuntu version and save it to desktop07:13
DShepherdgnomefreak: will do thanks. do you use opera with flash too?07:13
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gnomefreakim not on my ubuntu pc right now so im not useing oprea at all07:13
gnomefreakno ds07:13
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soundrayunit01_, do you want to try the skype package that I made for my breezy installation?07:13
kapputuwhat's vino server?07:13
Dr_Willislast i tried Opera - i had to download the 'static' compiled version.. they may of fixed that by now.07:13
mikelinuxim testing now vmware workstation and works fine07:14
simprixgnomefreak: this is what i have http://pastebin.com/42800607:14
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unit01_soundray, where can i get it?07:14
pavkasoundray: skype is debianized :)07:14
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DiViNe200j /privat07:14
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daveHi im having problems installing wine if any1 will help me pls07:14
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[A] ndy80uhm... about Opera.... when I start it, it says: Could not start plug-in executable 'operamotifwrapper'........ please install motif. I Installed Motif, lesstiff ecc.. but I still get this message. Which one package do I need exactly?07:14
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DiViNe200have anybody a psp? and know how to convert a video to psp format ?07:15
soundraypavka, I just fixed a dependency problem in that debianized skype.07:15
gnomefreaksimprix, thats all but the backports but myth tv isnt in backports07:15
nalioth[A] ndy80: install libmotif-dev07:15
carambolyou need opera-static07:15
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nalioth[A] ndy80: or get the static opera pkg ,as carambol says07:15
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gnomefreaksimprix, have you tried it from synaptic?07:15
pavkasoundray: I havent any problem with it07:15
Dr_Willisyea - Opera-Static. :() guess they havent fixed that yet.07:15
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DiViNe200have anybody a psp? and know how to convert a video to psp format ? pleaseeeeeeeeeee07:15
slewhi, i have a windows partition that im not able to write to, i tried changing the owner from root to me, but it wont let me, saying its read-only. how do i change the permissions, and ownership of this partition?07:16
kapputuFirefox takes up a whopping 110MB07:16
Xyc0kapputu: no it doesnt07:16
superbeastanyone know how to install yamipod?i put the file in usr/lib like it said and it isn't working07:16
[A] ndy80nalioth: I first check for libmotif-dev to be available07:16
sunshine82i want to setup my hotmail on evolution does anyone know how07:16
Xyc0kapputu: I have it on my USB drive 10 MB07:16
pavkasoundray: can U try repository on www.bootsplash.de07:17
kapputuXyc0, I'm talking about the memory it takes up while running and this is a fresh Ubuntu installation and I have two tabs open07:17
soundrayunit01_, on pavka's prompt, please paste the ouput from 'dpkg -i ~/skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb' via pastebin.07:17
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Xyc0kapputu: Ah, k saw out of context07:17
soundraypavka, I don't have a problem with mine. Trying to help unit01_07:17
pavka:)07:17
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DShepherdquestion: has anyone....anyone got flash sound to work in a browser other than firefox?07:17
DiViNe200have anybody a psp? and know how to convert a video to psp format ? pleaseeeeeeeeeee (Sorry for being repeating but i cannot change the format!! :()07:18
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unit01_soundray, pavkas prompt?07:18
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kapputuanyone installed Firefox 1.5??07:18
Xyc0DShepherd: thats and odd question, yes i got it to work in Mozilla too07:18
gnomefreak1.5 isnt stable yet07:18
lagaDiViNe200: i believe that ffmpeg has a psp profile. and search www.digg.com as well07:18
ProN00bhow can i rip totem out of my firefox ?!?!?!07:18
[A] ndy80nalioth: ok.. I installed libmotif-dev but I still get that error...07:18
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kapputugnomefreak, haven't had any problems with it on my Windows machine07:19
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soundraypavka says he hasn't got a problem with Skype on Breezy.07:19
ProN00bhow can i rip totem out of my firefox ?!?!?!07:19
gnomefreakkapputu: to everyones disbelief windows and linux are not alike07:19
Xyc0ProN00b: totem isnt in firefox07:19
DShepherdXyc0: what did you do? did you have to add something the rc file?07:19
Xyc0ProN00b: are you trying to change file associations07:19
soundraypavka, sorry, just assuming that 'he' is the appropriate pronoun.07:19
ubuntuubuntu listen on any ports by default?07:19
nalioth[A] ndy80: get the static opera pkg from opera.com07:19
unit01_soundray, ok i did as you said, still got an error :|07:20
ProN00bno, i already know how to do that (manually for every type of file), Xyc007:20
unit01_soundray, pasted undermy nick07:20
Xyc0DShepherd: macromedia has binaries that you can use if ubuntu packages dont work07:20
Corincan someone please tell me the free alternatives to web control panels, such as cpanel, plesk etc....07:20
kapputugnomefreak, you mean that firefox installations on Windows and Linux are not alike don't you? No point in being sarcastic07:20
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ProN00bbut somehow there seems to be some Totem plugin in my firefox, and i don't seem to be able to see it in extensions, and so i can't remove it, Xyc007:20
DShepherdXyc0: k I can get them on the site?07:20
gnomefreakno i mean the whole source is different07:20
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slewhi, i have a windows partition that im not able to write to, i tried changing the owner from root to me, but it wont let me, saying its read-only. how do i change the permissions, and ownership of this partition?07:21
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Xyc0DShepherd: what browser you using?07:21
soundrayunit01_, get my dependency corrected package from http://www.soundray.org/skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb07:21
gnomefreakso if they made windows version stable doesnt mean that linux version is stable07:21
shorty114is there any document that i can refer to for getting a Microsoft IntelliPoint mouse to work fully on ubuntu?07:21
shorty114such as the sideways scrolling, extra buttons07:21
DShepherdXyc0: epiphany07:21
Xyc0ProN00b: did you install a totem plugin for firefox?07:21
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AhmuckProN00b: edit -- preferences -- file types07:21
gnomefreaksorry if i came across sarcastic its just everyone sits here and compares windows with linux07:21
soundrayunit01_, pls let me know when you're done as I want to take it off afterwards.07:21
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Ahmuckthen edit or remove the file type07:21
superbeastanyone know how to install Yamipod?07:21
Xyc0gnomefreak: that is what we do here07:22
Xyc0gnomefreak: just no fanboy freakouts07:22
ProN00bAhmuck, where is that ?07:22
Dr_Willisslew,  if it was mounted read only. then it will stay read only. Is this a NTFS parttition?07:22
unit01_soundray, done07:22
soundrayunit01_, does it install with dpkg -i ?07:22
PatrikJohanssonhey guys, how can i make firefox play .mov files on websites???07:22
Ahmuckedit --> preferences --> downloads --> file types07:22
unit01_going to try now07:22
annaandlevevery time my computer idles with ubuntu, the mouse goes black or has wierd, grayscale colors07:22
annaandlevwhat can i do?07:22
Xyc0DShepherd: snoop around macromedias site, im not too sure about epiphANY THO07:22
Ahmuckon your firefox menu bar07:22
ProN00bAhmuck, there is nothing in there07:23
DShepherdXyc0: ok thanks07:23
ProN00band its a firefox plugin, not something external07:23
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slewDr_Willis, yes07:23
superbeastanyone know a good podcaster grabber/ ipod syncer?07:23
superbeast*sync07:23
annaandlevplease help07:23
annaandlevevery time my computer idles with ubuntu, the mouse goes black or has wierd, grayscale colors07:23
Xyc0PatrikJohansson: you should install the mozilla or firefox plugin for you favorite media player, I use VLC it works great07:23
Dr_Willisslew,  writing to NTFS - can be very risky i hear07:23
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DShepherdProN00b: check your plugins folder for firefox...I think it would be safe enought to delete the totem plugin07:23
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kapputugnomefreak, I don't want to compare Windows with linux but if Firefox supports both Windows and Linux then I would expect 1.5 to be stable on both07:24
ProN00bwhere is that folder, DShepherd ?07:24
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soundrayannaandlev, do you mean the pointer arrow changes?07:24
mikelinuxhow can i get multiple audio output on my soundcard usin ubuntu07:24
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PatrikJohanssonXyc0, can you please tell me how to do so??07:24
annaandlevsoundray, no07:24
mikelinuxi have 2 outputs and only 1 works07:24
ReleaseXdoes anyone here play glest?07:24
DShepherdProN00b: cd /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/07:24
slewDr_Willis, oh. ok. thanks for saving my partition, i just use it for game playing anyway. =] 07:24
Xyc0slew: Yea, if you must write to a windows parition, use Fat32 as a mediary07:24
kapputuyou can probably I should not be expecting such things but passing snide comments is not the right reply07:24
annaandlevwell yes07:24
annaandlevbut not the shape07:24
annaandlevthe color07:24
annaandlevit turns black or grayscale07:24
Secreth`XSomeone here with a webcam?07:25
slewXyc0, i was just gonna use it as a back up device07:25
Dr_Willisslew,  there IS a ext2 file system thing for windows that lets it read/write your linux (ext2/3) partitions.07:25
unit01_soundray, nope same error as before, think it's something i have to change.07:25
Dr_Willisslew,  i use that so i can  keep my mp3 and other stuff on a native linux partion these days07:25
robotgeekDr_Willis: yes, there is... unfortunately, can't recall the name07:25
unit01_soundray, the howto mentinos i have to change something in the dependency field07:25
robotgeeki think fsdriver.org or smthing07:25
Xyc0slew: Thats what i figured, I use fat32 so both linux and windows can see the parition and read/write stable07:25
Lord2kHi, I have a little issue. I'm trying to dual boot Windows XP and Ubuntu. At the moment, I do not have my cd burner, so, I'm forced to use a virtual machine to install directly to a partition. Now, I made a boot file using dd if=/dev/hda6 of=/ubuntu.bin bs=512 count=1. I copied it over to Windows using partition magic, I edit my boot.ini and add c:\Ubuntu.bin="Ubuntu". Now, when I reboot and select Ubuntu from the list, it just sits at a cursor.07:26
Dr_Willislet me look :P i have it installed07:26
ProN00bthanks, DShepherd07:26
Dr_WillisIFS Drivers07:26
slewDr_Willis, Xyc0, thanks! i'll get working on it. =] 07:26
DShepherdProN00b: worked?07:26
mikelinuxdownload nero 4 linux07:26
ProN00blet me try07:26
Dr_WillisHmm.. no "about' menu item lol07:26
ProN00bbut there was a totem in there07:26
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mikelinuxnerolinux-2.0.0.3b-x86.rpm07:26
mikelinuxS/N: 1A23-0609-4030-2333-6402-009707:26
guptaIs there any way to get  rid of sudo and yet retain my home directory?07:26
kapputuDoes anyone know if there are any issues with installing Firefox 1.5 on 5.10??07:27
Xyc0PatrikJohansson: Have you added your multiverse repositories?07:27
soundrayunit01_, I did that in the package you downloaded. Check that your browser hasn't renamed my deb, since there already was a file by that name in your $HOME.07:27
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PatrikJohanssonXyc0, yeag07:27
Xyc0gupta: what do you mean, sudo is superuser07:27
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DShepherdkapputu: yes they are issues....07:27
PatrikJohanssonXyc0, yeah *07:27
Secreth`XSomeone here with a webcam?07:27
guptaI mean anyway to avoid using sudo without loggin in as root?07:27
ProN00bworked, DShepherd, thanks07:27
louis_hi all07:28
kapputuDShepherd, can you provide some links to those?07:28
unit01_soundray, no i deleted the others before downloading07:28
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Xyc0PatrikJohansson: in synaptic, look for VLC and install the mozilla plugin.  Everything else should install with it07:28
guptasry if its stupid Q07:28
PatrikJohanssonXyc0, ok, thx07:28
Dr_Williskapputu,  you could try the 'autopackage'  version - that way it isntalls for a single user.  But i'd advise just waiting.07:28
DShepherdProN00b: good. Now go rule the world!!!07:28
Xyc0gupta: no stupid question, removing your sudo is unessisary07:28
kapputuDr_Willis, should I try out Opera in the meanwhile? Firefox takes up way too much memory07:28
Secreth`X!webcam07:28
ProN00bdon't worry, i will, DShepherd07:28
Xyc0gupta: Trust me, it is way easier then constantly changing to root07:28
DShepherdkapputu: you could google or check #firefox at irc.mozilla.org07:28
soundrayunit01_, can you try a 'apt-get --purge remove skype' and then dpkg -i again?07:29
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Xyc0kapputu: um, the memory you are seeing is a bit off07:29
guptaNO, xyc0, i want root permission to do eveything with my user07:29
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ProN00bgupta, you san su to root, or get a rootshell with sudo07:29
djk_!java07:29
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs07:29
Xyc0gupta: no you dont07:29
djk_!javadebs07:29
ubotuSun Java debs packaged for Ubuntu. Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy))07:30
Dr_Williskapputu,  it does? Never noticed. I perfer firefox to opera.07:30
kapputuDShepherd, is there anyway I can keep myself informed about a 1.5 release for Linux?07:30
Deterministwhat user does the apache daemon use by default? i'm trying to set writing permissions to /var/www/ folder and cant seem to locate it07:30
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guptaK, thx Xyc007:30
ProN00balso you can add your user to the root group soemhow, gupta07:30
Dr_Williskapputu,  the extra featres i have for firefox really blow away opera and the others.07:30
superbeastthis is so hard to install files07:30
Xyc0gupta: that is what windows does, that is how virus spread07:30
DShepherdkapputu: yeah...sure....... #firefox channel07:30
guptaI wanna do it for a temp period of time :)07:30
kapputuDr_Willis, yes I'd prefer firefox any day but it's hogging too much memory and I don't have a lot of it07:30
robotgeekDeterminist: www-data07:30
DShepherdkapputu: their site is good too07:30
cycomarg.07:30
ProN00bXyc0, i have never had a virus on windows, i think it'd be safe for me to be root ^^07:30
Deterministrobotgeek, thanks07:30
kapputuI have three tabs open and it takes 110MB of VM07:30
Xyc0ProN00b: that is what you think07:30
superbeasthow do i install america's army, i am having trouble with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AmericasArmy what would i type in terminal if i saved it to desktop?07:31
cycomProN00b: you've never had a virus that you've NOTICED07:31
PatrikJohanssonXyc0, it still says that totem cant play the plugin :D (not surprised, hehe), how do i disable the totem plugin??07:31
guptaMe too never get a virus on Win07:31
thechitowncubskapputu, linux is designed to use memory different than windows07:31
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Xyc0ProN00b: Ive meet the people who program melitious text07:31
Dr_Williskapputu,  hmm.. never noticed it taking that much. :P i'd switch to a lighter window manager - then i would a different browser.07:31
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Dr_Williskapputu,  how much memory ya got anyway?07:31
unit01_soundray, this is odd i get a error message but now i see it installed07:31
DShepherdProN00b: PatrikJohansson needs your help :)07:31
michelcan someone help me i cant get the sount to work07:31
kapputuDr_Willis, I have thought about it - what would you recommend?07:32
Xyc0PatrikJohansson: Totem can, I told you I like VLC.  If you want to use totem, look for totem07:32
kapputuI have 256MB07:32
soundrayunit01_, do you want to paste that error or is it short?07:32
ProN00blol, cycom, do you think you are safe with sudo ? i could say the same of you, just that its even easyer to implement stealth virii on linux07:32
cycomI'm having this obnoxious problem with my wirless dying every time I plug in SOME usb devices.  My GPS and mouse caues my wireless to die, but my usb keyfob does not.07:32
Dr_Williskapputu,  proberly fluxbox or similer. seem to be the most upto date/lite window managers07:32
PatrikJohanssonXyc0, ok07:32
Dr_Williskapputu,  or the light-icewm07:32
Xyc0If you are having memory problems, puppy linux is awsome07:32
PatrikJohanssonXyc0, but if i want to use vlc??07:32
unit01_soundray, want me to paste in chan, pm or internet log?07:32
Xyc0PatrikJohansson: did you install it?07:32
soundrayunit01_, pastebin pls07:32
robotgeekPatrikJohansson: cd ~/.mozilla/plugins/ and move the offending plugins to another folder07:32
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michelcan someone help me with my sound?07:33
superbeasthow do i install america's army, i am having trouble with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AmericasArmy what would i type in terminal if i saved it to desktop?07:33
Deterministrobotgeek, www-data is set to have it's home folder as /var/www/. shouldnt it have permissions to write/read from that folder?07:33
PatrikJohanssonXyc0, yeah in synaptic07:33
Xyc0michel: dont ask to ask, just ask away07:33
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joosepcould anyone recommend a good audio player for ubuntu?07:33
kapputuDr_Willis, 256MB is less for Gnome?07:33
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Xyc0PatrikJohansson: you also need to install w32codecs07:33
robotgeekDeterminist: i'm not too strong on that one, sorry07:33
michelcan someone help me to get my sound to work??07:33
Xyc0!tell PatrikJohansson restricted07:33
Deterministrobotgeek, k, thanks mate07:33
superbeasto man this ubuntu is hard i should just go back to windows xp07:34
ProN00bjoosep, bmp (beep-media-player)07:34
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dritterpunktjoosep try amarok07:34
kapputuhow do I change file associations?07:34
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unit01_soundray, i've pasted it there now07:34
Paradoxxsuperbeast: nooooooooo07:34
PatrikJohanssonMSG ubotu07:34
Xyc0what is the ubotu command for restricted formats?07:34
joosepi'm looking for something like amarok, which I could also use for managing my music07:34
cafuego_!restricted07:34
ubotuhmm... restricted is I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats07:34
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dritterpunktyea, with a library07:34
superbeastparadoxx, well ubuntu is hard to install stuff with07:34
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robotgeekjoosep: amarok is the r0x0rs! the best media player out there, beats winamp/whatever out there07:35
thechitowncubsHAHAHA07:35
michelhow can i play music?07:35
thechitowncubsthe bears game is crazy07:35
dritterpunkt;) the roxors ;))07:35
thechitowncubsmichel, what kind of music07:35
soundrayunit01_, do a 'apt-get install libqt3-mt' pls07:35
Paradoxxsuperbeast: are you serious? you find synaptic hard?07:35
DShepherdkapputu: man chmod07:35
jooseprobotgeek: yes it is, but i don't want to install kdelibs07:35
michelmp3 i cant hear no sound at all07:35
robotgeekjoosep: ahh..07:35
kapputuDShepherd, I meant file associations with applications07:35
dritterpunktahhh07:35
superbeastparadoxx yes07:35
robotgeek!tell michel about mp307:35
dritterpunktand yummie?07:35
Paradoxxsuperbeast: what is heard about it?07:35
micheli have no sount at all07:35
robotgeekjoosep: i mean, it's worth it!07:35
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unit01_soundray,  ok i did that07:36
ProN00bjoosep, bmp (beep-media-player), its a fork of xine, still in development, v good07:36
DShepherdkapputu: right-click the file-> props-> OPen with tab07:36
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soundrayunit01_, skype me then.07:36
dritterpunktdoes BMP have a library?07:36
joosepi'm currently using banshee, but IMO amarok kicks the crap out of it07:36
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michelmy sound doesnt work at all07:36
Kaizahi..07:36
thechitowncubsmichel, have to followed the RestricedFormats guide on the wiki?07:36
thechitowncubsmichel, what kind of sound card?07:36
ProN00bnope, nothing inbuild, dritterpunkt07:36
unit01_soundray, it worked before even though i got the error message. that's the odd thing07:36
dritterpunkt:/07:37
dritterpunktty07:37
michelonboard soundccard07:37
robotgeekjoosep: just install the libs :)07:37
ParadoxxProN00b: y is it that, for me, xmms can play .wmas etc but beep can't?07:37
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superbeastparadoxx, what is the thing you speak of again?07:37
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kapputuDShepherd, is there a way to make Firefox open a particular with an application automatically instead of asking me what to do with it?07:37
jooseprobotgeek: but they're like 80 MB, + i fear that most of that nice integration won't work then07:37
thechitowncubsmichel, what motherboard07:37
soundrayunit01_, I think it uses that lib only for popup msg's or something like that.07:37
Paradoxxsuperbeast: what is hard about synaptic? what are you having difficulty with?07:37
DShepherda particular file?07:37
michelmm dont know a pentium 2 from compaq07:37
DShepherdkapputu: a particular file?07:38
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necatoris there a way to view whats running and turn it off and such like processes?07:38
robotgeekjoosep: ah, not to worry. other than size, the rest works fine everywhere07:38
gnomefreakmichel: has the sound worked on that computer before?07:38
kapputuDShepherd, for example a WMA file07:38
unit01_soundray, the program works now, though i've forgot my login -.-07:38
michelyes with windows it worked:p07:38
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dmg|lnx does ubuntu have an ftp client installed?07:39
thechitowncubsmichel, what have you done to test it?07:39
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gnomefreakmichel: is that the only sound card in the pc?07:39
soundrayunit01_, just get a new one, they'll delete your old one after a while.07:39
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jooseprobotgeek: oh well then...07:39
micheli tries another soundcard to07:39
DShepherdkapputu: yeah, right click -> properties -? Open with07:39
kapputuDShepherd, if I chose to use mplayer to play .wma files I keep getting asked each time what to do with .wma files07:39
robotgeekdmg|lnx: get gftp for gui. lftp/ncftp for cli07:39
snprronHello all!07:39
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gnomefreakmichel: is it connected to the pc right now?07:39
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michelyes07:39
DShepherdkapputu: if firefox is not listed....click add07:39
gnomefreakthe one you tried07:39
jeanhi07:39
Albie1Hello07:39
gnomefreakok good07:40
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dmg|lnx does ubuntu have an ftp client installed?07:40
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koriomy movies lag in mplayer what can i do?07:40
soundrayunit01_, ...of it having remained unused.07:40
gnomefreakgo into your bios and disable the onboard sound card07:40
superbeastman07:40
micheli cant get to my bios07:40
jeanhow do i type 2 commands on the command line, like 1. pon then 2. firefox http://google.ca for example07:40
snprronIs anyone here using Ubuntu on a laptop?07:40
gnomefreakplug in the new card and than lets see what happens07:40
unit01_soundray, i suppose soundray is your skype name?07:40
robotgeekkorio: does pause and play work?07:40
DShepherdkapputu: firefox should be in the list07:40
superbeastparadoxx, can i install a .tar.gz file with synaptic?07:40
Albie1I'm new to Ubuntu. Normally, i do it with Windows XP07:40
koriorobotgeek, lemme check07:40
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djk_which packages do i have to download and burn on a cd to install xfce on a laptop without inet access? --currently installing kubuntu on it.07:41
micheli cannot get into the bios07:41
micheldont know how07:41
koriorobotgeek, yep pause works07:41
PatrikJohanssonis it safe to uninstall totem??07:41
mikelinuxi want to get work my 2 outputs from the soundcard under linux07:41
mikelinuxhave u any idea?07:41
robotgeekmichel: hit F2 / del when your PC boots07:41
djk_michel: usually by pressing DEL at bootup07:41
kappututhanks DShepherd07:41
DShepherdkapputu: worked?07:41
michelok i try07:41
gnomefreakmichel: when the computer starts up and you get the compaq screen does it say to press something to get into settings?07:42
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Paradoxxsuperbeast: i'm new aswell, and for a tar.gz i think you have to go thru some extraction process or sothing like that... but i'm siure most of the apps you use, you can get them in the universe07:42
Paradoxxand that automatically deals with all that stuff for you07:42
gnomefreakdell i know os F207:42
gnomefreakis*07:42
koriorobotgeek, any suggestions?07:42
robotgeekkorio: vlc07:42
adriyelsuperbeast, tar.gz's are usually source packages, and they cannot be installed from synaptic, you have to compile the source by hand yourself07:42
adriyelneedless to say, this is not something a n00b should attempt07:43
superbeasthow do i compile?07:43
adriyelsigh07:43
superbeastadriyel, how do i compile things?07:43
adriyel./configure && make && make install07:43
gnomefreak<<<doesnt touch tar.gz if i can avoid them07:43
robotgeeksuperbeast: tar -zxf <file.tgz>, the cd . then read the README file.07:43
superbeasto man i'm confused07:43
superbeastbye07:43
DShepherdkapputu: I guess it worked then...OK...go and rule the world :)07:43
gnomefreaklol07:43
superbeastgot to go07:43
gnomefreakalready07:43
kapputuDShepherd, nope it didn't work07:43
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DShepherdkapputu: oh ok :(07:44
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adriyel...07:44
adriyelhe left07:44
robotgeeksuperbeast: what are u looking to compile?07:44
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kapputufirefox screwed up and started opening new tabs like crazy07:44
DShepherdit doesnt open in firefox by defaullt?07:44
gnomefreakadriyel: i think he got scared07:44
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kapputuDShepherd, nope07:44
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DShepherdyour programs dont know how to handle wmv files07:45
joosepis there a way to get these exotic mouse buttons to work?07:45
adriyelgnomefreak, I've seen him around before, he'll come back07:45
joosepi have a 5 button mouse07:45
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Albie1I to07:45
gnomefreakadriyel, they always do :)07:45
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joosepi need to get the side buttons to work as back/forward in FF07:45
kapputuDShepherd, I think I didn't make myself clear07:45
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kapputuI can open WMA files using mplayer07:45
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Albie1Its possibe07:45
kevieboy123Yes sure07:45
DShepherdkapputu: ok07:45
kapputubut if I go to a site and open a .wma file, firefox asks me if I want to open it or save it07:45
xfankapputu : install w32codecs07:46
kapputuIf I say open it, it's opened using mplayer07:46
Albie11507:46
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borgistais that bad kapputu ?07:46
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Albie112 its good to be back07:46
DShepherdkapputu: thats good so far07:46
kapputuand if I check the 'Do this for files like this from now on' it doesn't remember that setting07:46
dmg|lnx does ubuntu have an ftp client installed?07:46
Ahmuck1.5 ?07:46
Albie1 The inside colour is 0907:46
robotgeekdmg|lnx: sudo apt-get install gftp07:46
borgistaYou could also use the mplayerplug-in to open the videos embedded in firefox, kapputu07:46
kapputunext time I open a .wma file I have to manually say open it instead of opening it in mplayer automatically07:47
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dmg|lnxrobotgeek: thanks07:47
kapputuborgista, it's a .wma file07:47
Albie1its not07:47
DShepherdkapputu: yeah.ok...you my want to try a mplayer plugin for firefox.. otherwise....that's how it was made to work07:47
kapputuI have mplayer plugin installed which works for .ram files07:47
borgistaI know kappu07:47
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borgistakapputu, i know07:47
borgistainstall mplayer-mozilla kapputu07:47
kapputuhmm apt can't find it07:47
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kapputuis it mozilla-mplayer?07:48
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adriyeldyslexia kills.,07:48
kapputuok got it07:48
kapputuyeah I have it installed and it's the latest version07:48
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DiViNe200Unsupported codec for output stream #0.107:49
DiViNe200 <---- what can I do?07:49
borgistayou probably have to install gstreamer for totem07:49
DiViNe200i'm trying to convert an avi to psp format with ffmpeg as you help me but now it appears that: Unsupported codec for output stream #0.107:49
carambolhere is opera -static:ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/850/final/en/i386/07:49
gnomefreaki remember sitting days on end scrolling through synaptic with all the repos enabled than someone taught me apt-get :)07:50
DShepherdthanks carambol07:50
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_smd_Is there a way to get streaming media in XMMS, similar to they way Winamp does?07:50
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kapputuborgista, can I chose to open .wma files using mozilla-mplayer?07:50
carambolDSheperd: and use gxine for streams07:50
DShepherdcarambol: ok07:50
DiViNe200i'm trying to convert an avi to psp format with ffmpeg as you help me but now it appears that: Unsupported codec for output stream #0.1...pleasee07:50
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borgistanot really kapputu gstreamer-totem is blocking it.07:51
ProN00b_smd_, use bmp, its a fork of xmms, and it supports mp3 streams (you can get some from www.shoutcast.com which is the same source winamp uses)07:51
robotgeeklsof /dev/dsp07:51
zoexiihey, I have questions about gcc:  Is it possible to have multiple versions installed at once?  it looks like synaptic will let me do this..  Is it a bad idea?07:51
robotgeekzoexii: not really, it's okay.07:52
adriyelzoexii, yes its possible, and no its not necessarily a bad idea, many kernel developers have multiple gcc's installed07:52
DiViNe200i'm trying to convert an avi to psp format with ffmpeg as you help me but now it appears that: Unsupported codec for output stream #0.1...pleasee :(07:52
kapputuborgista, I removed gstreamer-totem and installed totem-xine07:52
gnomefreakzoexii, yes you can07:52
adriyelzoexii, typically, gcc-3.3 or gcc-3.4 and 2.9 along with possibly gcc407:52
_smd_ProN00b: ok I will look at that07:52
gnomefreaki have 4.0 and 3.407:52
adriyelthats what I have installed.07:52
borgistawhy did you install totem-xine? kapputu07:52
zoexiihmm, ok, so can a makefile choose which compiler is used?07:52
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kapputuborgista, I read somewhere that it's better for playing video than totem-gstreamer07:53
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zoexiiI am trying to build qemu, and it complains that gcc appears to be v 4.x07:53
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borgistadon't use either...use mplayer kapputu07:53
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kapputuborgista, I'm using mplayer07:53
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kapputubut I want to open .wma files automatically07:53
Kaizadoes anyboduy know if is there any importan diference between /etc/network/interfaces ubunto and debian??07:53
borgistaok kapputu re-install mplayer-mozilla07:54
kapputuwhat's the apt command?07:54
kapputuapt-remove?07:54
gnomefreakthat i dont know when im compiling my own stuff i use gcc <program>.c -o <program> and it works fine07:54
adriyelgnomefreak, dittoz.07:54
gnomefreakapt-get remove07:54
DiViNe200i'm trying to convert an avi to psp format with ffmpeg as you help me but now it appears that: Unsupported codec for output stream #0.1...pleasee :(07:54
kapputuyep07:54
gnomefreakapt-get remove -purge i think works too07:55
gnomefreakor no - sign07:55
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DShepherddwight@shepherd:~/.mozilla/plugins$ sudo aptitude search build-essential07:55
DShepherdid  build-essential07:55
Kaizais it ok this /etc/network/interfaces --->http://pastebin.com/428069 ??07:55
DShepherdsrry for the paste07:55
gnomefreakDShepherd, u need it?07:55
kapputuborgista, do I need to close firefox when I install it?07:55
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gnomefreaksudo apt-get install build-essentials07:56
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borgistaJust restart it kapputu07:56
DShepherdgnomefreak: no....wrong window...07:56
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trappistit's build-essential07:56
gnomefreakor change the spelling to be right07:56
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gnomefreaktrappist, i know i keep adding s to it for some reason07:56
DShepherdgnomefreak:  yeah I know...I was going to ask about aptitude search and wat does...... id mean?07:56
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gnomefreakive installed it like 16-17 times07:56
kapputunope same problem borgista07:57
DShepherdgnomefreak: it seems to be some status indicator...but I'm not sure07:57
ProN00byay, i can finaly play mov files in mplayer perfectly07:57
trappistgnomefreak: I know what you mean.  I think it SHOULD be named build-essentials.07:57
zodiummy new desktop needs to get here already so I can get off this windows laptop07:57
zodium:(07:57
borgistaSorry then kapputu07:57
DiViNe200i'm trying to convert an avi to psp format with ffmpeg as you help me but now it appears that: Unsupported codec for output stream #0.1...pleasee i'd be very pleased if you help me07:57
kapputuis mozilla-mplayer an application or a plugin?07:57
ProN00btrappist, u sure its with the s ?07:57
borgistaplugin07:57
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neejazodium: install ubuntu on your laptop07:57
trappistProN00b: it's not with the s.  I was just saying I thought it should be.07:57
kappututhese things need to be fixed07:57
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Kaizai am having networking problems. Using dhcp i have no problem. but if a use static (as i am used to do with my debian) i can get others pcs in the lan, but router not. Neither inet. any help -->http://pastebin.com/42806907:58
gnomefreakis GNU emacs the same as xemacs and emacs21?07:58
bluefrog-10kapputu, what u want to ask is: how do I manually associate an extension with a program. What file do I have to modify...07:58
kapputuit's annoying if you can't do silly things like this07:58
kapputubluefrog-10, nope07:58
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Xyc1How many watt power supply should I get for my amd64 bit system?07:58
zoexiirobotgeek, adriyel, gnomefreak, you all seem to know many things about gcc's... I just finished installing gcc 3.4, yet the configure file for qemu gives a warning that gcc appears to be 4.x...  Is there a trick to get it to see version 3.4 ?07:58
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bluefrog-10kapputu, well then u don't know what u're asking..07:58
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kapputuHow do I make firefox remember that .wma files are to be automatically open with mplayer just like it remembers that .pdf files are to be opened with Acrobat Reader07:59
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robotgeekzoexii: try export $CC= <path to your gcc>07:59
ProN00bKaiza, configure your router, and try setting it as gateway07:59
kapputuI don't want to be asked every time if I want to open it with Mplayer07:59
gnomefreakzoexii, is this something you wrote?07:59
bluefrog-10kapputu, cause if right click and assign doesn't work, ur only choice is to change it manually in an xml file or something like it07:59
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travellerwhat is the package name to install mod-rewrite?07:59
gnomefreakzoexii, dont forget to install the gcc package08:00
Kaizapridkett, router is ok. cause i have 3 pcs working as static. and with this same pc (in dewbian) with the same ip static, works08:00
kapputuI think I'm not making myself clear08:00
ProN00bkapputu, there is a checkbox, something like remember this choice, to always select mplayer08:00
kapputuI give up08:00
gnomefreaknot just gcc 3.4 but you also need gcc08:00
KaizaProN00b, , router is ok. cause i have 3 pcs working as static. and with this same pc (in dewbian) with the same ip static, works08:00
EasterSunshinehi all. i was having trouble upgrading kaffeine, apparently the server is not carrying the deb anymore. what can i do?08:00
kapputuProN00b, yes there is and it doesn't work for .wma files08:00
bluefrog-10kapputu, if firefox doesn'yt do it it means you have either not removed totem plugins and or have vlc installed08:00
zoexiignomefreak, not at all, It is something I am trying to make work.  I installed gcc 3.4 with synaptic, it should be there.08:00
trappisttraveller: apache-common08:00
DiViNe200i'm trying to convert an avi to psp format with ffmpeg as you help me but now it appears that: Unsupported codec for output stream #0.1...pleasee i'd be very pleased if you help me08:00
kapputubluefrog-10, how do I remove my totem plugins and yes I just installed vlc but I have been having this problem before that08:00
travellertrappist: if i'm using apache2 i'm guessing i should get apache2-common?08:01
gnomefreakzoexii, in synaptic you will see <gcc> you need that also it wont have numbers after it08:01
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trappistyep08:01
ProN00bKaiza, maybe wrong gateway, seriously, your debian might use dhcp for that, and still use a static ip08:01
trappisttraveller: apt-file search mod_rewrite.so08:01
trappisttraveller: if you don't have it, apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update08:01
bluefrog-10kapputu, remove the totem plugins in firefox/plugin directory, and get rid of vlc otherwise u're dead in the water as well08:01
zoexiirobotgeek, what is the default path to my gcc?  I'm guessing it is in /usr/bin?08:01
travellertrappist: ah..thanks08:01
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trappistzoexii: yes08:01
robotgeek zoexii : whereis gcc08:02
EasterSunshinezoexii: `which gcc`08:02
trappistor which gcc08:02
DShepherdgnomefreak: when I do a search with aptitude I get 'id' and 'v' in front of the some of the packages,,what do they mean?08:02
gnomefreaklol08:02
gnomefreakDShepherd, i dont know i dont search often in terminal08:02
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gnomefreaki know what is on my pc always08:02
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kapputubluefrog-10, get rid of vlc altogether ???08:03
bluefrog-10kapputu, yes08:03
DShepherdgnomefreak: ok...kool08:03
KaizaProN00b, nop. i have 2 debian using 192.168.1.3/4. and all ok. This pc also work with window$ with .2 But with ubuntu...ping to router fails, but ping to others pcs works,08:03
michelhow can i let my sount t5o work?08:03
zoexiiEasterSunshine, robotgeek, trappist, Ok, I see both gcc 3.4 and 4.0 in /usr/bin/... so the export $CC= /usr/bin/gcc3.4 will tell the configure file to use 3.4 instead of 4.0?08:04
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bluefrog-10kapputu, well u can try with vlc installed but if doesn't work u know what to do...08:04
kapputubluefrog-10, just to get a better understanding of why I'm doing something can I know why?08:04
gnomefreaki might start for librant tho08:04
robotgeekzoexii: i sure hope so :)08:04
thrushDiViNe200: didnt u hear? sony is evil now ;)08:04
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trappistzoexii: if the configure file respects that environment variable, which it should.  ./configure --help to be sure.08:04
kapputuwhat's the firefox installation directory?08:04
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necatorhow do i burn a cd in ubuntu?08:05
necatorwhat programs do it good and easy?08:05
zoexiitrappist, ./configure --help only gives an error about gcc being 4.x :)08:05
necatorpreferablly something with a gui08:05
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trappistzoexii: try update-alternatives08:05
EasterSunshinecan someone give me a url to the newest kaffeine deb for ubuntu hoary? apt couldn't retrieve it08:05
necatorcan someone tell me what program i can use to burn cds?08:05
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kapputuhow do I get smb support for mplayer?08:05
robotgeekzoexii: sudo update-alternatives --config gcc08:06
trappistzoexii: as in update-alternatives --set gcc /usr/bin/gcc-3.408:06
gnomefreaknecator, hold on im thinking of the name08:06
adriyelserver message block? @ kapputu08:06
cafuego_why would mplayer need a network fs?08:06
Kaizawhat is the meaning of "v" when you do a aptitude search package?08:06
kapputuadriyel, I don't get it08:06
adriyelkapputu, what did you mean by smb?08:06
EasterSunshinekapputu: mount the smb share08:06
gnomefreakwhat is the one its brown something or black something :(08:06
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adriyelserver message block? samba (same thing)? super mario brothers?08:06
adriyeltalk man!08:06
ompaulEasterSunshine, >>apt-cache policy kaffeine<< doing that in a terminal does that return a package name?08:07
kapputuEasterSunshine, it's mounted but mplayer doesn't play it08:07
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necatoranyone know a program i can use to burn cds?08:07
gnomefreakadriyel, what is the name of the gnome burner08:08
Trackilizerk3b08:08
gnomefreakits gnomebaker?08:08
gnomefreakk3b is not gnome08:08
kapputuadriyel, there is something called as 'context'08:08
Trackilizernecator, k3b has to be one of the best out there.08:08
EasterSunshineompaul: yes, it returns 0.6-1, and my current installed version is 0.6-0, however, the forums mention 0.7-0 being available08:08
adriyelkapputu, there is something called as "being polite"08:08
kapputudid you mean talk 'please talk' or talk as in 'talk of the town'08:08
zoexiirobotgeek, trappist, ok tried those two, it returns "no alternatives for gcc"08:08
dmg|lnxanyone get nerolinux to work on ubuntu?08:08
adriyeltake your attitude elsewhere08:08
TrackilizerBut you can still use it in gnome.08:08
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ompaulEasterSunshine, that would be for breezy08:08
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Trackilizerdmg, yes, i did.08:09
kapputuadriyel, that's what I should be telling you08:09
gnomefreaknecator, you can use k3b it is easy and good but you need the kde dependencies to install it08:09
trappistzoexii: as a last resort, you could always: ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc08:09
dmg|lnxtrack: you did the debian version?08:09
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necatori found one called gnome baker08:09
robotgeekuggh08:09
necatorits asking me to choose a speed to burn08:09
borgistanecator, serpentine works well.08:09
necatorwhat is good for a speed?08:09
dmg|lnxhow did you install?  i couldnt figure it out :P08:09
travelleri have made a symlink to /etc/apache2/mods-available/rewrite.load in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled and then restarted, but it still doesn't seem to be working08:09
gnomefreakthats a good one also08:09
adriyelkapputu, watch it. I'm not in the mood08:09
trappistnecator: depends on your burner and your media08:09
gnomefreaki liked it08:09
travelleris there anything else that i need to enable?08:09
borgistanecator, use the speed of your burner08:09
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kapputuadriyel, I cannot talk based on your mood08:09
ompaulEasterSunshine, give me a min08:10
necatorwhere do i check speed of my burner? :p08:10
EasterSunshineompaul: can i install only kaffeine from the breezy repos and nothing else? without breaking my system. this version of kaffeine is very buggy08:10
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adriyelkapputu, you can however refrain from speaking to me in the manner as you did earlier, it was rude, and I was attempting to be humorously constructive. Go choke on a pine-cone punk a5508:10
DaMousehey.. what's the default root password?08:10
zoexiirobotgeek, export $CC= <path to your gcc> I think I had a syntax problem trying this, it returned something about "not a valid identifier."08:10
KyralQuick Ext3 question. If the partition is going to be used mainly for mass storage of files bigger than 100 MB, should I specify -T largefile4?08:10
gnomefreakthought kaffeine was a kde program08:10
borgistanecator, it's on the front of the burner08:10
borgistausually08:11
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trappistadriyel: why don't you take your mood elsewhere.08:11
robotgeekzoexii: one sec08:11
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kapputuadriyel, I thought you were rude when you gave those expansions for smb08:11
necatormine dosent say borgista08:11
adriyelkapputu, no that was humor, you should try it some time, major stress reliever08:11
dmg|lnxhow do you install nerolinux?08:11
borgistathen just choose the highest one.08:11
dmg|lnxi couldnt do it w/ ubuntu..?08:11
kapputuadriyel, you are making a fool of yourself08:11
necatorwhats burnfree and dummy write settings mean08:11
trappistadriyel, kapputu: this is a support channel guys.  kindly take it elsewhere.08:11
borgistadmg|lnx, use K3B. Don't use nerolinux08:11
Kyraladriyel, kapputu, #ubuntu-offtopic08:11
Xyc1yes please08:12
borgistadmg|lnx, or use Serpentine08:12
kappututrappist, I'm here to learn and make my experience with ubuntu better08:12
dmg|lnxyeah i have k3b installed now, but would like to try nerolinux08:12
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trappistnecator: dummy write won't actually write, and burnfree tries to prevent buffer underruns.08:12
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dmg|lnxi gues syoud have to install the debian package?08:12
necatorso its good to turn on burnfree then?08:12
kapputuI don't want to have sarcastic comments passed on me just because someone is not in the mood08:12
gnomefreaki never heard of nerolinux08:12
trappistnecator: sure08:12
Kyralyes08:12
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Xyc1TAKE IT OUTSIDE FELLAS #ubuntu-offtopic08:13
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KyralXyc1, no caps either :P08:13
ompaulEasterSunshine, this is all that is available in the release world ftp://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kaffeine/  if I was you I would dist-upgrade and then work from there08:13
weobok alright finally got static to work on my wifi excellent08:13
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Xyc1why is my name xyc1, gah brb08:13
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kapputuWhat to install and what to remove - totem-xine and totem-gstreamer?08:13
dmg|lnxany idea how to upgrade to the newest version of xchat as well?  or do i wait for ubuntu to update their package?08:13
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RoelRoelis there any way to play .wmv's?08:14
necatorremove btoh kapptu08:14
necatorand then download vlc08:14
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robotgeekzoexii:  try  export CC=<your gcc>08:14
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Kyraldmg|lnx, you have to wait08:14
necatorroelroel just install vlc media player it plays pretty mcuh anything in one program.08:14
kapputuok bluefrog-10 just told me to remove vlc08:14
gnomefreakthe version ubuntu is using is latest stable version of x-chat08:14
dmg|lnxkyral: k thx08:14
Kyralnecator, VLC doesn't work with Compositing08:14
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Kyralthe various Xine-Frontends do08:14
gnomefreakim kinda fond of bitchx :)08:14
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kapputuwhich is the firefox installation directory?08:14
necatorkyral i thought he just needed codecs :p08:15
zoexiirobotgeek, with the "<>"s correct?08:15
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EasterSunshineompaul: a dist-upgrade would require me to download 70.0 mb and i don't want to rape the servers like that when  kaffeine is the only thing i need to upgrade08:15
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Kyralnecator, well08:15
robotgeekzoexii: no, without the <>'s08:15
Kyralyah :P08:15
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dmg|lnxhow do you install debian packages?08:15
ompauldmg|lnx, you wait - or you do it yourself according to the rules of xchat building - then you enjoy it08:15
damorahi is there a Firefox 1.5 repository for ubuntu?08:15
KyralIf you don't use Compositing, then VLC owns08:15
kapputuEasterSunshine, what's Kaffeine?08:15
gnomefreakdpkg -i08:15
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donzadamora: nope08:15
donzadamora: you have to download it from mozilla.org08:15
Ahmuckkapputu: front end for xine08:15
damorathank you donza08:15
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donzadamora: there is a good guide at ubuntuforums.org for installing firefox 1.508:16
ompaulEasterSunshine, 70 megs ain't a lot for them - the one I pointed you at servers terrabytes a day - unless you have charges accruing to you based on your online time/download quantity08:16
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pepealguien espaol aqui08:16
pepe??08:17
ompaulI think the local expression is "silly amounts of bandwidth"08:17
ompaul!es08:17
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ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:17
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EasterSunshineompaul: i wonder what happens if i dpkg -i the deb from that link you gave me...if that fails, i will just grab the 70 megs08:17
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damorai already read it, but i dont want to screw the synaptic configuration up08:17
damoraHola Pepe, yo soy de argentina08:18
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Xyc0damora: make a backup of the repository list, then if you messup you can copy it back over08:18
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DShepherddo i have to use dpkg to install debs or can i use aptitiude?08:18
ompaulEasterSunshine, go for it - but it is 1/70th of what you need - now you have to track that package - thus removing the prime reason most people run stable o/ss08:18
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Xyc0DShepherd: aptitude used dpkg to install aswell08:19
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DShepherdXyc0: thanks08:19
Xyc0or at least a form of it08:19
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Xyc0dpkg is the debian package system installer08:19
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aljosawho is default user for postgres 8.0 installation on ubuntu?08:20
pepehola, damora, me puedes ayudar? es la primera vez que uso Ubuntu y estoy un poco perdido08:20
DiViNe200hola pepe yo tb ablo espaol08:20
DiViNe200q necesitas?08:20
borgistalist08:20
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Xyc0yea, if you speak in english others can help too08:20
DiViNe200i'm trying to convert an avi to psp format with ffmpeg as you help me but now it appears that: Unsupported codec for output stream #0.1...pleasee i'd be very pleased if you help me08:20
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mikonianhi there08:20
pepesaber muchas cosas, gracias, primero, sabeis si hay algun CD-burner eficiente para GNOMe?08:21
mikoniancan someone help me install java?08:21
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mikoniani'm trying to get azureus installed08:21
gnomefreak#ubuntu-es for spanish08:21
zoexiirobotgeek, ok, I am looking inside the configure file, and I think maybe it checks for the presence of gcc 4.x, and then prints an error regardless of wheter gcc 3.x is available.  I'm not sure.  If you don't mind looking I can paste what I'm looking at in #flood08:21
robotgeekubotu: tell mikonian about java08:21
DiViNe200Xyc0 he said that it's his first time using ubuntu and wants to know if there is any good burner for gnome08:21
DiViNe200pepe yo uso k3b08:21
robotgeekzoexii: use the pastebin,08:21
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robotgeekzoexii: it will stay aournd for a while then08:21
pepeah k3b funciona en Gnome? es que no tengo ni idea08:21
zoexiirobotgeek, pastebin?08:22
mikelinuxsi08:22
mikelinuxfunciona08:22
EasterSunshineompaul: man i'm an idiot, i tried dpkg -i on the kaffeine deb, it didn't work, and now apt-get dist-upgrade wont work, complaining that kaffeine has unmet dependencies08:22
mikelinuxpero necesitaras unas librerias de kde08:22
DiViNe200usa apt-get o synaptic08:22
mikelinuxyup08:22
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damoraanother question: is it posible to open Nautilus with <windows key>+e like windows?08:22
Xyc0DiViNe200: I know what he said, i read spanish rather well08:22
mikelinuxte descargara alrededor de 36mb08:22
mikelinuxpara instalar k3b08:22
robotgeekubotu: tell zoexii about the pastebin08:22
DiViNe200...sorry :$08:22
pepegracias, y algn dvd ripper para linux? es que suelo colgar DIVX y Xvid08:22
Xyc0damora: sure, you can program almost any keyboard shortcut08:22
mikelinuxacidrip08:22
mikelinuxmencoder08:22
mikelinuxdvdrip08:23
ompaulEasterSunshine, dpkg -r kaffeine << may help08:23
mikelinuxbuscalos en tus repositorios del apt08:23
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damorai tried usin metacity but it doesnt work08:23
peperepositorios de apt? que es eso?08:23
sewoylhello I can't access my router's config through http ... 'connection refused'08:23
Ep|phanyhi im sharing a printer from my windows pc over my network how do i print from my ubuntu laptop to that printer?08:23
robotgeekdamora: System -> Preferences -> Shortcuts08:23
EasterSunshineompaul: i tried that, but kubuntu-desktop depends on it08:23
Coburnsomeone can help me with rox with mount of device???08:23
mikelinuxsino busca los repositorios en www.apt-get.org y aadelos a tu sourcelist08:23
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EasterSunshineompaul: and a whole bunch of things depend on kubuntu-desktop08:24
ompaul!tell pepe about apt08:24
pepewhat's apt08:24
mikelinuxapt=synaptic=aptitude08:24
ompaulEasterSunshine, ehh *-desktop is a meta package08:24
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EasterSunshineompaul: should i forcefully remove it?08:24
administrador...08:24
sewoylEp|phany, I think you can just use the printing wizard in gnome08:24
Xyc0pepe: /j #ubuntu-es, para  espanol08:24
ompaulEasterSunshine, I would not care if it was there or not - it is a way to bring lots of stuff onto themachine08:24
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sewoylEp|phany, it should allow you to connect to that printer08:25
zoexiirobotgeek, right on, I pasted it there, it's definately the part of the config file that produces the error message, but I'm not certain of how it works or how to interpret it.08:25
Ep|phanyk let me try08:25
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Ep|phanywhere is gnome08:25
Coburnsomeone can help me with rox with mount of device???please???08:25
_smd_ProN00b: I have installed BMP thank you so much i have radio now!08:25
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Xyc0damn gnome running off?08:25
b1n0rysomeone mentioned a gui frontend to apt...08:26
robotgeekzoexii: ./configure --help | less' and/or README or INSTALL file08:26
Xyc0b1n0ry: synaptic08:26
sewoylEp|phany, gnome is yourinux desktop, unless you are running Kubuntu08:26
EasterSunshineompaul: ok i'm on the dist-upgrade step, thx a lot, i tihnk i can take it from here08:26
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sewoylyour linux*08:26
Ep|phanyokay08:26
ompaulEasterSunshine, #kubuntu also exists for kubuntu users :-)08:26
ProN00b_smd_, personally, i also like streamtuner, its an interface to shoutcast and some more things08:26
sewoylEp|phany, foow those menus : System> Administration>Peinting08:26
Ep|phanywheres the printer wizard then i tried system __> printing and added the printer but it didnt work08:26
Ep|phanyit adds fine but doesnt print08:27
robotgeekzoexii: plus, tell me the url to the pastebin08:27
EasterSunshineompaul: well kaffeine isn't part of kde so i thought i would get the same help in either channel08:27
sewoylEp|phany, hmm can you print from any other remote workstation?08:27
b1n0ryXyc0, thanks08:27
Ep|phanyi only have 1 other pc and that pc is the one connected to the printer08:27
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_smd_ ProN00b: I am just happy I can listen to something else than my downloads, right now... and i actually got it installed with little to no problems as I have no clue about doing things with my computer..08:28
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zoexiirobotgeek, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/449408:28
ompaulEasterSunshine, ahh your there - thats good :) I was pointing it out to you incase you did not use it yet08:28
EasterSunshineompaul: usually its kind of empty08:28
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sewoylEp|phany, not sure i can help you :(08:29
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ompaulEasterSunshine, ahh08:29
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gnomefreakGNUemacs same as xemacs??????/08:30
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sewoylcan anyone help me ? I can't ping nor access my router through http ... but I'm on the net08:30
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robotgeekzoexii: ./configure --disable-gcc-check08:30
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zoexiirobotgeek, ok, was I right then? about it displaying the error regardless of whetere 3.x was available?08:31
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gnomefreaksewoyl, if your on the net why are you wanting to ping your router?08:32
robotgeekzoexii: yeah, it checks for gcc 4.0, and doesn't check your CC, i guess08:32
weobok who has been able to get wine .9 beta working on ubuntu?08:32
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HiddenFlyAnyone here with working Ventrilo?08:32
sewoylgnomefreak, Well for some reason I want to change some settings08:33
HiddenFlyClient software that is.08:33
ompaulEasterSunshine, that last one was for i08:33
ompaulEasterSunshine, that last one was for u08:33
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pepethanks everybody, gracias a todos08:33
weobnobody using the new wine on ubuntu?08:33
weobeveryone uses cedega for gaming ?08:33
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EasterSunshineompaul: i don't see why so kde is so uncommon...maybe it's just me but i see almost nothing attractive in gnome08:34
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Ophiocusdoes onyone know if cd juicer interferes with the proxy service?08:34
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weobits cuz there are more apps for gnome08:34
weobthat's all08:34
weobthe apps are there08:34
weoband that's why it is where it is in popularity08:34
gnomefreakEasterSunshine, its not that its uncommon its that ubuntu=gnome and kubuntu=kde08:34
ompaulEasterSunshine, beauty etc08:34
weobyou can apply different themes and make it look completely different08:35
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sewoylClearLooks rocks! :p08:35
mikoniani've got java 1.5 installed, thanks08:35
ushoozI prefer Gnome. KDE is not bad. Gnome has the apps and tools I like and it feels more like my Mac08:35
gnomefreaki agree with ishooz08:36
weobya08:36
weobbut i just prefer the kde filebrowser over gnome's08:36
gnomefreakkde is a fine desktop but it looks and reminds me too much of windows08:36
shingokiGnome is good apart from functionality08:36
EasterSunshineompaul: i don't want to start a desktop suite war here, everyone has his or her own preferences08:36
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sewoylthe overloaded Konqueror's GUI makes me feel bad I like clean and sleek design08:36
DiViNe200i'm k.o. what happens with ffmpeg!!!!! it appears that: Unsupported codec for output stream #0.1 help meee pleaseee08:36
shingokisome stuff in KDE just works better, like scp browsing, large files in kwrite etc.08:36
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Kromonos/usr/local/games/dockingstation/dstation-install: line 913: /usr/local/games/dockingstation/langpick: cannot execute binary file << What happend there?08:37
shingokiyeah a lot of KDE stuff has too many options on the top level08:37
DiViNe200the codec unsuported is mp3!!!08:37
Sionide!midi08:37
uboturumour has it, midi is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=873608:37
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DiViNe200i'm k.o. what happens with ffmpeg!!!!! it appears that: Unsupported codec for output stream #0.1 help meee pleaseee08:37
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ompaulEasterSunshine, that one was a bit like going into #gentoo and saying I like ubuntu :-) there is no war, thats what I was saying it has its fans and gnome has its and what I did not say is this >> there is a lot of good in both << and that I believe08:37
shingokiDiViNe200, I'm guessing you need some kind of mp3 codec, maybe lame?08:37
OphiocusDiViNe200, you are still at that? have you tried diferent bitrates, compresion rates?08:37
DiViNe200yes08:37
shingokiwell it's all good, ubuntu and kubuntu08:37
ushoozI use to be in the KDE camp until Gnome 2.x came out. I still play with KDE to keep up to speed. Mostly Slackware KDE. I tried Kubuntu and found Slackware KDE to be more up to speed. Kubuntu may have changed though. I tried 5.04 Kubuntu08:37
Ophiocusdo you have the lame codec?08:37
DiViNe200i've been trying all the day lots of combinations08:37
sewoyloh I noticed that Ubuntu won't install properly if chosing the wifi ipw2200bg as default nic in setup08:38
shingokiI just want kde and gnome to look the same and work together :)08:38
sewoylany idea why?08:38
DiViNe200i've installed lame with synaptic08:38
DiViNe200is it correct?08:38
shingokiDiViNe200, you need to find the right command line option for lame then08:38
shingokior try transcode or mencoder08:38
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DiViNe200look i put in the shell: ffmpeg -i M4V00001.avi -f psp -r 14.985 -s 320x240 -b 768 -ar 24000 -ab 32 M4V00002.MP408:39
DiViNe200if i put -acode mp2 it works fine08:39
DiViNe200but my psp doesn't accept it08:39
shingokiDiViNe200, I dunno, transcoding scares the crap out of me08:39
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shingokiDiViNe200, you could try running psp video 9 under wine, that thing is great08:40
shingokithe ipod version id cool too08:40
sewoylanybody got wifi working in breezy?08:40
DiViNe200it doesn't work too08:40
weobi do sewoy108:40
ushoozsewoyl, yes08:40
DiViNe200sewoyl i've got wifi working in breezy08:40
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weobdepends on wifi card08:40
weobtype of network encryption08:40
weoband your router08:40
DiViNe200shingoki psp video 9 doesn't work under wine i don't know wy08:41
sewoylcause it detects the card, shows me signal strength but can't seem to access anything08:41
shingokiDiViNe200, :(08:41
sewoylits wep 128bits ...08:41
misfit_toysewoyl, check your DNS setting08:41
adriyelsewoyl, weak encryption, easily cracked.08:41
weobwell tell me your key08:41
weoband tell me where you live08:41
shingokiDiViNe200, the only stuff I've done was under mencoder, I never got PSP working that way though. I really hate video conversion stuff.08:41
sewoyladriyel, yeah but iont have no neighbor :D08:41
weobthen i will help >:)08:41
adriyelwhy use wep at all then?08:41
sewoylI don't have any neighbour*08:41
sewoyladriyel, you got me there :D08:42
weobdont use any encryption at all then08:42
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DiViNe200i'll try with mencoder so08:42
DiViNe200thanks shingoki08:42
mobushello08:42
adriyelsewoyl, my interest is security, but I do believe in practicality.08:42
DiViNe200if it doesn't work i'll return here xDD08:42
sewoylif I chose ascii do I have to write s:WEPKEY08:42
mobusI'm new to Breezy Badger, but I'm not new to Ubuntu linux, and I need help[08:42
mobusI am trying to mount my windows partition08:42
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sambearpoethi! I am running a Dell Dimension with a D Link DWL G510 wireless card and it's JUST not working. Anyone have a clue how to make that on?08:43
weobdear god what is wrong with beagle - spotlight is so much better08:43
robotgeek!tell sambearpoet about wireless08:43
ushoozweo1, I agree :)08:43
JDahlmobus, google for "fstab ntfs"08:43
mobusbut it keeeps saying I don't have permission.  How do I give myselfd permission to access /media/hda1?08:43
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ushoozweo1, I no longer run Beagle. I will wait for it to becomde more mature08:43
mobusYeah, I know how to mount JDahl08:43
mobusbut its already mounted08:44
thrushmobus: example mount -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/whatever08:44
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JDahlmobus, add something like this: /dev/sda5       /disk1          vfat    users,umask=000 0 008:44
mobusand I can't access it08:44
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mobusits already mounted08:44
mobusbut I can't access it due to me not being root08:44
ompaulmobus, what does your fstab say08:44
mobuswhats the fstab?08:44
sambearpoetthank you for the link08:45
mobushello?08:45
thrushmobus: umount it. then type 'sudo' what I typed above08:45
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sambearpoetit said it just works, but it doesn't - it *does* recognize it in the device manager, but it doesn't provide wlan008:45
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JDahlmobus, /etc/fstab is table of filesystems that are automatically mounted at boot08:46
ompaulmobus, there is a line in your fstab for ntfs if you have done it the way I think you have (/etc/fstab) and slow with the wow people are not that fast sometimes08:46
sambearpoetof course I think I have the A version not the B version they talk about in the list08:46
ushoozsambearpoet, that is important difference08:46
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ushoozsambearpoet, they can use different chipsets between revisions08:47
sambearpoetI bet it is. frustrating because this selfsame card works perfectly with my Mepix Pro distro on my main server08:47
ushoozsambearpoet, makes it fun for us linux people. I spent and hour at compusa using their internet connection and looking at wireless pcmcia cards for my powerbook08:47
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sambearpoetOf course it's vaguely possible that the card is bad. i need to trouble shoot it more intensely, I suppose.08:48
ushoozsambearpoet, before I found one I thought would work. I was succesful :)08:48
robotgeekushooz: i found that the stupid belkin card has broadcom, and rev 2 has ralink08:48
sambearpoetExcellent, I'm glad you did08:48
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ke_Can someone tell me why this doesn't work? I'm absoluty sure it's that partition I must mount08:48
sambearpoetMaybe I will be as lucky08:48
ke_ke@yndebaws:/media$ sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows -t ntfs08:48
ke_mount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist08:48
sambearpoetThanks y'all08:48
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Deterministanyone here that's managed to make a gdesklet that places notifications work?08:48
ushoozrobotgeek, it is so frustrating to get a nic that does not work08:48
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robotgeekushooz: same problem, powerbook here too08:49
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mobusok all mounted thanks08:49
soundrayke_, what makes you so sure?08:49
ompaul ke_ do this "sudo fdisk -l" and put the output in paste.ubuntulinux.nl  i.e. do not paste here08:49
weobwhat's the equiv of netstumbler for ubunut?08:50
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ushoozrobotgeek, I have a Toshiba laptop with a internal B that works. But I am about to go on a long flight and do not want to lug that beast with me so installed Ubuntu on my Powerbook08:50
EasterSunshinelol...Totem could not start up: no reason.08:50
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gary__question about Skype and breezy....... Have it working fine except I can't hear it ring when initiating a call or recieving a call. Can anyone help?08:50
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ke_http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/449608:50
ushoozrobotgeek, my missing link was wireless on linux side08:51
adriyelgary__, have you checked options in Skype regarding sound events?08:51
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gary__yes  event sound is greyed out08:51
robotgeekushooz: ahh, look at the wireless wiki. i added a link to a site with versions numbers and all that.08:51
ccc_anyone running ati radeon 9500?08:51
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ompaulke_, emm /dev/hda1   *           1        1660    13333918+   7  HPFS/NTFS  <<< I think this may have something to do with the problem :)08:51
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ke_Huh?08:52
gary__everything else works GREAT08:52
weobholy crap that server was fast - 3mb/s down :D have to remember the name08:52
zack_im trying to get Java Runtime Environment, should i get the "Linux RPM (self-extracting file)"08:52
DShepherdzack_: get the deb is possible08:52
robotgeekubotu: tell zack_ about javadeb08:52
EasterSunshinezack_: you should look at the wiki08:52
DShepherdif*08:52
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robotgeekubotu: tell zack_ about java08:53
weobi think there is a security issue in firefox if i may state it08:53
weobnot sure if its specific to ubuntu08:53
ushoozrobotgeek, I think the wiki is what I used. I was on ubuntuforms with a large list pulled up on their demo iMac. I kept going back and forth with cards reading revision numbers until I found one that was said to work. It works like a champ too :)08:53
robotgeekubotu: tell zack_ about javadebs08:53
ompaulke_, SFS is that Self-certifying File System?08:53
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zack_ill check it out08:53
robotgeekushooz: which one?08:53
Sionidetrying to get midi files to play08:53
Sionide"bash: sfxload: command not found08:53
Sionide"08:53
Sionidegetting that error :s can anyone help?08:53
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ke_I dunno.. It's just a normal ntfs I guess08:54
Sionidehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 <-- what i'm trying to do08:54
ke_I use it from my windows partition08:54
gary__adriyel...   check boxes are all checked for sound events ,  but headphne setting on recieve is greyed out.08:54
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ompaulke_, your partition table does not think so08:54
adriyelgary__, sound really isn't my knack in Linux, sorry. My experience is localized in a different area, however I can direct you to a webpage08:54
adriyelubotu tell gary__ about sound08:54
ke_Hmm08:55
weobanyone end up downgrading to ubuntu hoary to run wine 0.9 ?08:55
ompaulke_, read the output you put on in pastebin08:55
ke_Yeah, I know08:55
ke_Dunno why08:55
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ushoozrobotgeek, DLink DWL-G630 Version: C2 Revision 3.0108:56
soundrayompaul, ke_: The error is about the device though, and not the filesystem...08:56
robotgeekushooz: atheros08:56
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joosepis gnome-look.org down?08:56
ushoozrobotgeek, yep08:56
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ke_Crap08:56
robotgeekushooz: my friend got unlucky, he got a broadcom coaster08:56
ke_Gotta' backup everything and format it08:57
ushoozrobotgeek, can not return it?08:57
weobhow do i get firefox to use konqueror instead of nautilus?08:57
soundrayke_, how is hdb wired up?08:57
ke_Using kubuntu now - but I got it mounted while I was using gnome08:57
robotgeekushooz: we returned it :)08:57
ke_Normal I guess08:57
ke_Hmm08:57
ke_Brb08:57
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ompaulke_, that does not make sense08:58
ompaulahh08:58
soundrayke_, same cable as hda? Both disks jumpered as master/slave correctly?08:58
b1n0ryok, i think my system's dying and i just installed it :(08:58
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ompaulsoundray, ke_ gone08:58
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sewoyl:( still no wifi08:59
ompaulsoundray,  bets for cable select?08:59
weoblol why would you want to dev wine on windows?08:59
soundrayompaul, :)08:59
weobmaybe for older windows maybe.. but seems silly08:59
sewoyldoes the fact that my wifi card is eth1 instead of wlan0 meanyhting08:59
sewoylmean anything*08:59
weobyes08:59
weobit should see it as wlan008:59
soundrayompaul, remember keiron?09:00
sewoylbut gnome says "wireless network adapter" in the config window09:00
ushoozsewoyl, nope. My Toshiba has its wireless as eth1 and wired as eth009:00
robotgeeksewoyl: not necessary, it doesn't matter09:00
b1n0ryi am using the synaptic package manager to install some stuff. apache2 installed great. i went to install mysql and it asked me to configure postfix. i made a mistake, hit the 'back' button, the configuration window hung up so i had to force quit.09:00
b1n0rynow, the little "preparing packages" bar has been moving back and forth for about 30 minutes09:00
sewoylwhy am not able to ping my routers ?09:00
sewoylis that related to my wifi problemes?09:00
ompaulsoundray, remind me09:00
b1n0ryon "installing software" i'm afraid to bomb it out because i don't want to really screw something up09:01
cycomushooz: what kind of toshiba?09:01
sewoylushooz, my acer too09:01
robotgeekb1n0ry: bomb it , you could go over it again09:01
soundrayompaul, guy swearing at Linux when he had his HD hooked up with a CD-ROM ribbon.09:01
ushoozcycom, 1415-S173. Old beast :)09:01
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sewoylsoundray, :)09:01
ompaulthat was one of the lesser known better ones09:01
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b1n0ryrobotgeek,  is there something similar to the windows task manager that lets you force down hung apps?09:02
ushoozsewoyl, try iwconfig and make sure those setting are correct09:02
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cycomushooz: I had a problem with my wireless being eth0 and my wired being eth2, but then if there was some random problem with the acpi and I had to reboot, it would be eth0 wired and wireless eth1 till I rebooted again.  I updated a lot of stuff and now it's eth1 for wireless and eth0 for wired09:02
robotgeekb1n0ry: there's a panel applet called force quit09:02
sunshine82how do i set up xawtv09:02
cycomushooz: I have a toshiba M45-26509:02
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robotgeekb1n0ry: plus, you can always ps -ef | grep <appname> , get the pid and kill it09:02
sewoylushooz, it seems correct09:03
cycomushooz: did you have to do any funky stuff with acpi on the old beast?09:03
sunshine82when i type xawtv -noxv i get v4l2: open /dev/video0: No such device09:03
sunshine82 how do i fix this09:03
soundraysunshine82, insert a PCI TV card? :)09:03
zzyberi have installed rufus bittorrent downloader but i cant get it to automaticlu load a torrent when i click the tottent link on a webpage then choose open with /user/bin/rufus? When i do that rufus starts empty. What can i do to fix this?09:03
tarheelcoxnb1n0ry: killall -9 <appname>09:03
ushoozcycom, acpi does not really work with it :(09:03
b1n0ryrobotgeek, thanks09:03
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ushoozcycom, only in limited fashion09:04
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tarheelcoxnb1n0ry: saves a step from what robotgeek said09:04
sewoylushooz, hmm do I have to specify the wifi access point as "default gateway" or the wired router 'beneath' it ?09:04
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sunshine82soundray how do i check if there is one install09:04
clb_heeelp! I rebuilt 2.6.14.2 kernel and I now get these errors: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/449709:04
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ushoozsewoyl, depends on how you have things set up.09:04
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john-hi newbish perosn here, about to attempt to install ubuntu, how straight forward is it?09:05
john-only experience i have is installing fedora09:05
sewoylmy setup is     WAN==ROUTER==WIFI ACCESS POINT==LAPTOP09:05
john-that was pretty easy09:05
cycomushooz: I had a problem with my wireless dying randomly.  I threw acpi=noirq pci=usepirqmask irqpoll on the kernel options and it works now09:05
fredforfaenanybody here got cedega working on breezy?09:05
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tarheelcoxnjohn-: it's pretty darn easy09:05
ushoozsewoyl, more than likely the router but it all depends if your access point is acting as a router itself as well09:05
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sunshine82soundray i got this computer of a friend so that wasnt a good answer to give to me for one i dont know where to look to find a pci tv and i dont know what a pci card is09:05
tarheelcoxnjohn-: have you tried the liveCD?09:05
john-yup09:05
john-i liked it09:05
ushoozcycom, sheesh. I got lucky then :) I do not have to do any switches :)09:06
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john-i'm gonna dual boot, already got a partition set aside09:06
sewoyljohn-, partition editing is just different than fc4 but if you have the smallest idea of what oure doing it'll be okay09:06
pppoe_dudehi all, is there a way to map special keys to special characters? like say on a laptop, Fn + q to map to a sigma character09:06
soundraysunshine82, you clearly expect that computer to be receiving a video signal of some sort.09:06
sewoylushooz, no its actually a router with any routing/dhcp disabled09:06
john-i'm not totally comfortable with partitioning, but i know about it09:06
cycomushooz: the fun part was that the wireless would also die if I plugged in my USB mouse or GPS.  Wardriving was tough. :)09:06
sewoylushooz, so basicallywifi router turned access point09:06
soundraysunshine82, you generally need specialized hardware for that kind of thing.09:06
cycomushooz: but now it's all good09:06
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tarheelcoxnjohn-: is this a simple desktop system for yourself?09:06
sewoylushooz, works fine in windows09:06
john-yes09:06
pppoe_dudeor even shift-something09:07
tarheelcoxnjohn-: you're not trying to dual-boot, are you?09:07
ushoozb1n0ry, under application/system/tools is System Monitor... if you like task manager style killing of task that is it. Or if you want to me command line geek get to know ps -aux and kill and or top :)09:07
john-...yes i am09:07
john-i need windows for games :p09:07
tarheelcoxnjohn-: ahh... then read the instructions in the wiki09:07
sewoyljohn-, just remember 'happy face' = partition is not going to be formatted, 'skull' = partition will be formatted09:07
jgomo3Greetings09:07
jgomo3I need a little help09:07
ushoozsewoyl, I would do ipconfig /all in windows and make sure your linux setting match09:07
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jgomo3It's a laptop wich doesn't setup correctly the eth0 interface. Only assignateit an int6 addres but not the inet addres.  This is shown by ip addr show eth0:09:07
AzOwhat'is the chan fr ???09:07
jgomo32: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 100009:07
jgomo3    link/ether 00:00:86:56:17:bc brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff09:07
cycomsewoyl: HAHAHA! I had forgotten that!09:07
sewoylushooz, thats a good idea thanks I'll try that!09:08
jgomo3    inet6 fe80::200:86ff:fe56:17bc/64 scope link09:08
jgomo3       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever09:08
sewoylcycom, :)09:08
robotgeekjgomo3: don't paste in here09:08
cycomjgomo3: is this for wireless?09:08
jgomo3the /etc/network/interface is pasted in http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/449509:08
pppoe_dudeor is there a way to setup additional key binding?09:08
AzOwhat'is the chan fr ???09:08
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sunshine82soundray but where do i look in device manager where....09:08
tarheelcoxnjgomo3: paste in #flood or somewhere else09:08
soundraysunshine82, normally that would be an expansion card that fits into a slot on the mainboard.09:08
jgomo3robotgeek: sorry09:08
sunshine82soundray i dont know09:08
sewoylcycom, it's not stated anywhere on the screen ... but yeah pretty easy to figure out09:08
AdrienDu54hello09:08
jgomo3cycom: No,09:08
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sewoylAzMoo, french?09:08
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AdrienDu54dites moi09:09
_Dezhey guys09:09
sunshine82soundray that sound like inside the cpu i dont go in there is there no way of checkin in the device manger without goin in there09:09
tarheelcoxn!fr09:09
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais09:09
_Dezanyone here know where i can pickup a ubuntu H2 usb hd?09:09
cycomjgomo3: you sure the cable's good?09:09
soundraysunshine82, look at the back of it. Is there a socket for an antenna?09:09
AdrienDu54c'est quoi c'est adresse svp ? elle correspond a koi sur un reseau ? 192.168.0.22209:09
tarheelcoxnubotu: tell sewoyl about fr09:10
nalioth_Dez: follow the link from tomshardware09:10
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sewoylAdrienDu54, en franais c sur #ubuntu-fr09:10
tarheelcoxnerr09:10
tarheelcoxnsorry sewoyl09:10
sewoylno problem :)09:10
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jgomo3cycom: Yes, the lights green. On win is working correctly, but the idea is to overwrite win with the ubuntu09:10
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tarheelcoxnright idea... wrong nick09:10
KhaaaaanDamn you apple! Why won't you make a Linux client of your iPod software!09:10
cycomjgomo3: are you on that machine right now?09:11
AdrienDu54oui sewoyl je suis sur ubuntu09:11
jgomo3No09:11
ushoozKhaaaaan, what do you need?09:11
cycomKhaaaaan: because apple sucks?09:11
AdrienDu54j'ai confitgur un serveur web09:11
sewoylit should probably say 'va sur #ubuntu-fr' (not va a ...)09:11
sewoylbut whatever :D09:11
AdrienDu54c'est l'adresse avec laquelle j'accede  mon site09:11
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cycomjgomo3: ok, try dhclient eth0 and see if it snags and address09:11
adriyeloh good lord09:11
jgomo3cycom: but is at my right side09:11
AdrienDu54si toi tu tapes cette adresse dans ton exploreur internet est ce que tu tombes sur mon site?09:11
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sewoylAdrienDu54, il faut aller sur le canal #ubuntu-fr09:12
adriyelI hate it when its primetime in Europe, I don't understand half the convo's.09:12
cycomjgomo3: I figured :)09:12
AdrienDu54ah pardon09:12
AdrienDu54loll j'avais pas capt09:12
ushoozKhaaaaan, gtkpod, Banshee, SharpMusic09:12
AdrienDu54c en anglais09:12
ubuntu_'lo everyone - could use a bit of help installing/configuring if anyone's available?09:12
sunshine82soundray i think so is it a green hole09:12
sewoylyes it's in english here :D09:12
adriyelparle in anglais PLEASE09:12
AdrienDu54sorry bye be09:12
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Khaaaaanushooz: Yea i need a replacement for itunes... well actually ephpod on windows09:12
ushoozKhaaaaan, gtkpod and Banshee allow you to transfer songs to the ipod  SharpMusic allows you to buy songs09:12
travelleri have problems starting mod_rewrite, the module is there, i've linked the module in mods-enabled, but it seems nothing's changed09:12
Khaaaaanushooz: How about formatting and firmware updates?09:12
sunshine82soundray it has an antenna lookin symbol nexy to it09:12
soundraysunshine82, it should be more like a barrel that protrudes about half an inch.09:13
sewoyli like Banshee, looks like a new rhythmbox to me09:13
ushoozKhaaaaan, no firmware updates.09:13
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_Deznalioth i cant seem to find a link to buy the usb drive09:13
cycomadriyel: jgomo3 did it get an IP?09:13
ushoozKhaaaaan, should be able to format. I have never had to. Plus I have several Macs so use iTunes :)09:13
cycomer.. not adriyel09:13
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cycomadriyel: how many languages do you speak/understand09:14
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Khaaaaanhmmm09:14
KhaaaaanIs banshee free?09:14
ushoozyep09:14
KhaaaaanIt looks pretty money..09:14
Pabloo.O09:14
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ubuntu_ok, so I start with can anyone see this?09:14
adriyelcycom, I am a student an ancient written languages, but I do speak/understand a number of modern languages, not in any fluent manner however09:14
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ushoozhas lots of depends09:14
nalioth_Dez: it's on the last page of the writeup at the bottom of the article (not the bottom of the page)09:14
sunshine82soundray is a barrell like a  parrell point09:15
sewoylKhaaaaan, free as in free speech my friend!09:15
adriyelcycom, I read/write latin, hebrew, greek, aramaic, arabic, blah blah.09:15
chrisbudden14With libdvdcss2 installed, I cannot play unencrypted dvd's and can play commercial encrypted dvd's.  When I remove libdvd2css I can play unencrypted.09:15
adriyelcycom, I also learned Tolkien's languages as a hobby09:15
tarheelcoxnubuntu_: the installer is pretty straight-forward09:15
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sewoyladriyel, in prato condam rana conpexit bovem (or something like that)09:15
anathema_okay im back wiht the problem here09:15
tarheelcoxnubuntu_: just jump in with both feet09:15
Khaaaaanhmmm...09:15
anathema_i get this error when trying to open .wmv files.. http://pastebin.com/42817709:15
soundraysunshine82, don't know what you mean.09:15
adriyelsewoyl, WHAT did you just try to say in latin? lol.09:15
tarheelcoxnubuntu_: after you've made a backup, of course09:15
anathema_can i supress this error somehow?09:15
anathema_anyone?09:15
adriyelI recognize the forms, but not the vocab.09:15
cycomadriyel: if you know latin, why do you have so much trouble with french then? :)09:16
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ubuntu_tried installer - failed 3x during install, finally got it installed, shell never came up. I know next to nada about linux. trying to install version 5.0409:16
sewoyladriyel, hmm something like in the sunny field the frog stared at the beef09:16
cycomadriyel: semper ubi sub ubi :)09:16
ubuntu_using live version for now09:16
sewoyladriyel, from that Lafontaine story (tale?)09:16
tarheelcoxncycom: thaaaaat's aawwwwwwwful09:16
adriyelalways where (below?) where09:16
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sewoylcycom, hmm latin is not french09:16
adriyelunderstanding a language and memorizing its dictionary is another story09:16
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adriyelI learn many languages, I don't memorize two of them :P09:16
tarheelcoxnadriyel: "Always wear underwear" (horribly massacred)09:17
cycomsewoyl: French: romance language. based on latin.09:17
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sewoylcycom, thank you for telling me, my mother tongue is french09:17
thrushdamn normans09:17
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nvezubuntu_, corrupt CD?09:17
chrisbudden14anyone got an idea?09:17
cycomtarheelcoxn: actually, it's always where under where literally09:17
nvezPlus 5.10 is out.09:17
b1n0ryushooz,  i am pretty good with the command line. i've been working with linux for many years, but not much with x. i didn't know if there was something special that needed to be done.09:17
sewoylcycom, and im not sure its romance09:17
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adriyeltarheelcoxn, wow.09:17
adriyelmy latin teacher just croaked.09:17
_Dezthanks nalioth09:18
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ubuntu_doubt it's corrupt cd - got 5 diff ones mailed to me and I've tried all 5.  can update to 5.10 after the install - that part's working - prob is I can't get gnome and stuff to fully install.09:18
tarheelcoxnadriyel: did she not have a sense of humor?09:18
adriyelthe written form of the languages is in particular my specialty...09:18
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adriyeltarheelcoxn, actually she was the funniest teacher I've ever had09:18
cycomadriyel: I'm sure my silly 'semper ubi sub ubi' thing made your teacher turn over in her grave09:18
adriyelshe just hated dirty latin09:18
sewoylcycom, its roman language09:18
adriyelRomance Languages, bleh, they get boring09:19
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adriyelall the bloody same except for English, which has german constructs09:19
chrisbudden14dvd playback anyone?09:19
cycomchrisbudden14: what?09:19
jgomo3cycom: didn't work09:19
adriyelubotu tell chrisbudden14 about restricted formats09:19
bonezCan someone help me installing winex EXACTLY how to? I can't get it to work =(09:19
tarheelcoxnubuntu_: what do you mean by "can't get gnome and stuff to fully install?" What's giving your errors? synaptic?09:19
cycomjgomo3: hrm...09:19
|sam|hi, in xfce4 you can set a frame on the desktop, so you can choose the area windows can fill, i wanna do the same with gnome, anybody know how?09:19
chrisbudden14i cant play UNencrypted dvd's with libdvdcss2 installed.09:20
jgomo3cycom: in the beginig lines of the dhclient were: sit0:   unknown hardware address type 77609:20
sewoyl|sam|, probably in gconf if anywhere09:20
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sledhi09:20
ubuntu_can't bring up synaptic even.  I get command prompt and nothing else. remember I know next to nada about linux - ls is one of the few commands I'm good with, tried using man on some of the stuff I found but nothing led to the shell. looks like cshell prompt btw (I had a sco class years ago)09:20
sewoyl|sam|, oops doesnt seem to be the name09:20
sewoyl|sam|, configuration editor09:21
cycomjgomo3: this sounds like what was going on with my wireless (I know you're using wired) when the interface was getting all screwy due to issues with acpi and irqs and such09:21
nvezubuntu_, try "apt-get install gnome" from shell?09:21
tarheelcoxnubuntu_: it's a bash prompt09:21
tarheelcoxnyou likely have a problem with Xorg09:21
sunshine82soundray u said the antenna connnection is like a barrell i was askin is a barrelll09:21
sunshine82soundray is a barrell like a  parrell pont09:21
nvezhmm09:21
soundraysunshine82, I don't know what a "parrell pont" is.09:21
ubuntu_thanks tarheel - and nvez..  tried apt-get install gnome, got fail error with some side instructions to follow (apt-get -f?) tried those, tried apt-get install gnome again, nada.09:21
nvezubuntu_, why don't you try a network install?09:21
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ubuntu_that's a possibility nvez - issue at hand is right now I've got no other way of getting out than here, and hdd is partitioned for winblows.09:22
KhaaaaanIs there a way to minimize X-chat to the system tray?09:22
|sam|sewoyl, i looked there :o( couldnt see anything like it09:22
soundraysunshine82, TV cards typically have a coaxial antenna connector.09:22
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nvezubuntu_, your best bet would be a network install.09:22
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|sam|i will keep on googling, just thought i would check just incase ;oP09:22
ubuntu_wanna start me on the walkthru for network install? any particular url I need to hit to get it?09:22
soundraysunshine82, that connector protrudes from the backplate circa .5 in.09:22
bonezCan someone help me installing winex EXACTLY how to? I can't get it to work09:23
thrushubuntu_: unable to sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?09:23
nvezDo you have a CD burner?09:23
ubuntu_and will it down me on live version? yah, got cd burner.09:23
mooi cannot find java-package from any repositories for breezy. do you have idea where I could get it?09:23
soundraysunshine82, it is round and fairly large, compared to eg. the mouse socket.09:23
mooi need to install jre 1.509:23
ubuntu_did sudo apt-get thrush. even did sudo -s to start at root. no workee.09:23
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|sam|moo, download it from suns website09:23
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moosam: i have jdk bin, but i need make-dpkg command to make .deb from it09:24
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ubuntu_man you guys are helpful. this beats the hell out of my old dalnet days.  thanks for all this so far :)09:24
moomake-jpkg is in java-package09:24
jgomo3cycom: and how did you resolved that? (if that's the case)09:24
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nvezubuntu_..09:24
nvezWhat worked for me is a mini ISO image09:25
cycomjgomo3: yeah, I passed acpi=noirq pci=usepirqmask irqpoll as kernel options09:25
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sewoyl|sam|, i think I managed to do that someday to use a macOSX like dock09:25
nvezWhich works 100% like a CD installer, gui friendly, etc.09:25
cycomjgomo3: dunno if that'll help though09:25
nvezI got it from09:25
tarheelcoxnubuntu_: linux for human beings, after all :)09:25
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|sam|sewoyl, yeah i want it for the same reason :)09:25
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nvezubuntu_, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso09:26
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|sam|moo, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70428 shows how to install jre1.5 from scratch09:26
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sewoyl|sam|, but I finally found out that gnome's two bars layout is the most intuitive :)09:26
msieradzkiis there such hint like (DONT USER DRAPER yet) ? (like with breezy)09:26
nvezThat's the miniboot disk, download, burn, and then insert in CD, boot it, and follow instructions.  (not gentoo like installer. :)09:26
ubuntu_q on network install - is possible to do from the live version without crashing it?09:26
josh__does anyone know how to configure/install a wireless card09:26
nvezjosh__:  Read about NDISWRAPPER on Wikipedia.09:27
josh__ok09:27
clb_anyone know about alsa? I get this at boot:  * /etc/init.d/alsa-utils: Warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message 'alsactl: set_control:894: warning: name mismatch (External Amplifier/Headphone Jack Sense) for control #4109:27
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clb_and then I'm dropped into shell as root... not running gdm09:28
john-right, here i go09:28
weobanyone use dvdshrink in wine?09:28
|sam|sewoyl, yeah i will prolly end up using them again, but it would be nice to run like this for a little while09:28
nvezweob, I think a dvdshrink for ubuntu exists.09:28
r0ddapper is great..09:28
nvezWith no need of wine.09:28
weobreally09:28
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weobthat would be sweet09:28
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|sam|r0d, what are the main differences atm between dapper and breezy?09:28
tarheelcoxnubuntu_: you want to burn a minimal netinst CD and boot from that09:28
r0dnvez, what? never heard of that09:29
nvezHmm.. last time on SuSE I saw that.09:29
nvezDoesn't look to be there on Ubuntu.09:29
jgomo3cycom: Hay man, i'll try that. Thanx a lot man09:29
|sam|r0d, is hotplugging usb sticks working?09:29
r0di use to use dvdshrink w/ wine09:29
ubuntu_kk. can do - prob is I'm on live right now, and the live cd's in my burner :P09:29
weobi will do that09:29
weobcuz i love that windoz program09:29
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nvezubuntu_,  I don't think it'll crash or anything..09:30
nvezDon't quote me on that.09:30
r0dok |sam| no 100 on that. when i went to those repositories, i had million upgrades. so i came to the conclusion its more aggressive w/ upgrading09:30
ubuntu_gonna cut outta here - thanks for the help so far. I'll do the burn and attempt install. If fails, I'll restart live and holler here :)09:30
ubuntu_be well y'all!09:30
nvezOkay, see you in a bit, ubuntu_09:30
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cycomjgomo3: good luck09:30
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r0d|sam|, i've seen it working, yes09:31
johnhand#ubuntu on irc.freenode.net09:31
r0d|sam|, you have to check out the slashdot article on H209:31
johnhandUhm, HI09:31
johnhandI am in trouble09:31
r0dAWESOME09:31
|sam|r0d, i will check it out09:31
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johnhandI used a sources.list to get mp3, and it crapped everything up09:32
r0djohnhand, spit the question out bro09:32
johnhandAnyone know where I can get an original?09:32
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weobacidrip is the name of the linux native dvdshrinklike prog09:32
nvezjohnhand, What version are you running09:32
weobim trying it out now09:32
bonez_Can someone help me install winex and cedega? I got problems and I dunno how to solve it...09:32
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nvezI could private message you mine.09:32
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nvez(Breezy Badger, 5.10)09:32
johnhandthat would be great thanx09:33
|sam|bonez_, what problems?09:33
nvezOkay.09:33
sunshine82soundray i cant see anything as big as my mouse socket it not there does that mean i cant use gnomew meeting either im sure i was able to use my webcam when i was windows so my computer must have some vidoe capacity09:33
bonez_|sam| I followed instructions on linux-gamers, but when I ran ~/.cvscedega or cvscedega command it wouldn09:33
weobis it me or does wine take longer to compile than a kernel?09:34
bonez_|sam| I followed instructions on linux-gamers, but when I ran ~/.cvscedega or cvscedega command it wouldn't function09:34
sunshine82soundray what about fixin v4l09:34
weobis that cuz it tries to compile some of the windiz kernel parts ? and its all bloated and the bloat makes the boat not float?09:34
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weobtry sudo ./cvscedega09:34
bonez_I was logged as su09:34
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bonez_And it said no such file or directory09:35
|sam|bonez_; cedega comes as a .deb file so you install it as sudo dpkg -i cedega5.deb09:35
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|sam|bones_; ahh cvs cedega, sorry i aint tried that :o/09:35
bonez_|sam| I use cvs09:35
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CTPAYCi am having problams with synaptic having dead servers does anyone know where i can get a new updated repository list? msg me please :)09:36
weobsudo apt-get update09:36
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CTPAYC...09:36
CTPAYCno09:36
CTPAYCdead servers09:36
weobkill them~09:37
CTPAYCthe standard repository fails09:37
FJ_SanchezHi, is anybody using SCIM or UIM?09:37
GigaClonwhat does your sorces.list look like?09:37
GigaClonsources.list09:37
FJ_SanchezI want to input japanese in GTK and QT aplications but I don't use gnome or KDE09:37
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CTPAYCcan i post it here?09:37
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bonez_Can someone help me compiling winex and cedega? I dunno what to choose to install..09:37
GigaClonno09:37
GigaClon!pastbin09:37
ubotuGigaClon: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about09:37
GigaClon!pastebin09:37
ubotusomebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:37
GigaClonthere09:37
Paradoxx!mdf09:37
ubotuParadoxx: Did you get hit by a windmill?09:37
bonez_!help09:38
bonez_-.-09:38
weoblol giga09:38
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soundraysunshine82, okay, if your video hardware is a web cam, then you don't need a TV card.09:38
Paradoxxanyone have any idea how i can convert a .mdf image to a .iso?09:38
GigaClonno09:38
Ophiocusinteresting09:38
ulaasParadoxx, rename the file..09:38
Paradoxxulaas: thats all?09:38
ulaasParadoxx, i am not joking...09:38
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bonez_!cedega09:39
ubotucedega is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page, or #cedega http://www.franskcorner.org/09:39
Paradoxx......09:39
soundraysunshine82, xawtv is normally used to watch TV, but you're right, it works for web cams, too, if they are v4l compliant.09:39
ulaasParadoxx, try and see for yourself09:39
DigisParadoxx, if mdf is alchohol 120% format, if U will convert it to iso, it may not work correctly09:39
bonez_!winex09:39
ubotubonez_: I don't know, could you explain it?09:39
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weobwine: error while loading shared libraries: libwine.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:39
|sam|CTPAYC; http://www.psychocats.net/linux/sources.php  has upto date list of repos09:39
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weobi got this error at the end of the install progress09:39
bonez_Can someone help me compiling winex and cedega? I dunno what to choose to install..09:39
sunshine82soundray when i type xawtv -noxv i get v4l2: open /dev/video0: No such device09:39
CTPAYC?09:39
soundraysunshine82, what you need to do now is find out the make, model and chipset of the web cam and see whether there is a Linux driver for it.09:39
CTPAYCweird function09:39
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bonez_!cedega09:40
ubotu[cedega]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page, or #cedega http://www.franskcorner.org/09:40
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weob!wine ?09:40
Paradoxxit didn't work...09:40
bonez_!wine09:40
ParadoxxDigis: yea i kno its the alchohol format09:40
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soundraysunshine82, I take it your web cam is plugged into a USB socket.09:41
sunshine82soundray ive done all that already the driver is broken ive emailed the provider of the driver  they havent respond yet is there no way of settin up the /dev/video without the driveer set up09:41
sunshine82soundray yea09:41
Paradoxxulaas: your suggestion did not work..09:41
DigisParadoxx, ant if U will convert it to iso, It may not work.09:41
CTPAYCso what is my problam with the list09:41
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ParadoxxDigis: grr, i though i was finished with windows...09:42
soundraysunshine82, the driver is what interfaces with the camera hardware and provides the virtual file /dev/video0 .09:42
GigaClonlink?09:42
sunshine82soundray ahhh09:42
Obi-1i have some problems with the root user09:42
Paradoxxnow i have to go back to alchohol just to convert these back09:42
Paradoxx>.<09:42
Ophiocusok so am not getting sound from a video cd but all other sound applications work fine09:42
Ophiocusany ideas?09:42
DigisParadoxx, it may work, if that cd/dvd  image, has no super/duper/mega protections, like a lot of new games has09:42
CTPAYChmmmm09:42
CTPAYCoh i got it thx09:42
CTPAYClol09:42
sunshine82soundray well there nothin we can do then because we already went through the driver and found out it broken09:42
GigaClonmake your application is using esd?09:42
Paradoxxits not anything like that09:42
CTPAYCsomeone msged me lol09:42
Obi-1how can i run x applications as root09:43
soundraysunshine82, there you go.09:43
travellerdoes anyone know how i can enable mod_rewrite in apache2?09:43
GigaClonuse sudo09:43
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Obi-1i tryed that but it gives me an error09:43
sewoylObi-1, from terminal sudi gedit   >will run gedit as root09:43
sunshine82soundray we try everything to get it to work but im still getiin an error when i try and make the driver09:43
sewoylsudo of course09:43
El_CheObi-1: from a console within your X: sudo applicationprogram09:43
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GigaClonsudoku09:44
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soundraysunshine82, what's the name of the driver?09:44
DigisParadoxx, then try converting mdf->iso with alcohol, U know alcohol is a commercial tool, and mdf is specific alcohol format09:44
Obi-1there's no sudi09:45
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Digissorsis, I dont whink, that U will find any tools related to mdf09:45
Paradoxxi didn't kno mdf was a alchohol specific format09:45
sunshine82soundray ahh nw802-2.409:45
Paradoxxsigh09:45
Digis:)09:45
Paradoxxkk m8, ty much09:45
ulaasParadoxx, sorry dude. it did work for me before..09:46
Paradoxxdamn propiotory formats and their restrictions09:46
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Paradoxxthats y i moved to open source you kno09:46
Paradoxx>.<09:46
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Digis:), well migrating is painfull and tricky thing09:47
Digis:)09:47
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bulioI have a wireless router09:47
buliowith a wireless usb device09:47
buliohow would I allow ubuntu to connect to it?09:47
soundraysunshine82, it looks like this driver only works with 2.4 kernels.09:48
buliojust plug it in and boot up ubuntu live?09:48
soundrayUbuntu comes with 2.6 by default.09:48
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Knowerrorsanybody else here having problems accessing usb cameras in breezy?09:48
jgomo3cycom: is "live acpi=noirq pci=usepirqmask irqpoll"09:48
Trackilizerbulio, yes, should do the trick.09:48
TrackilizerTry it.09:48
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sunshine82soundray why do u say that09:49
soundraysunshine82, your best bet is to buy a web cam from a retailer who will exchange it for you if you can't get it to work.09:49
cycomjgomo3: afaik.  I did that in my /boot/grub/menu.lst09:49
Digisbulio, it depends, what device U have, search some info, maybe drivers in google09:49
server_newbiecan anyone help me with ssh & keychain? I want to get rid of the passphrase requirment every time I login...09:49
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soundraysunshine82, nw802-2.4-0.0.99 is the version on the Sourceforge page. 0.0.99 is the driver version, and 2.4 is the kernel version that it has been developed for.09:50
bulio_Lapso, do I just boot up ubuntu live, and it should detect my USB wireless thing?09:50
server_newbieI have keychain loaded and follow several of the how to's I have found and still pass phrase09:50
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bulio_Laphuh?09:51
Obi-1nothing works.. it's not allowing me to iniciate gedit as root09:51
soundraysunshin82, all according to my personal interpretation.09:52
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thrice`hrm...it doesn't like this OOo line in my sources.list09:52
thrice`deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2/09:52
dell500how do you view man pages outside of console?09:52
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soundraysunshine82, umm, did you get your driver sources from CVS?09:52
thrice`is that wrong ?09:52
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DShepherddell500: yelp09:53
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thrice`hrm...why is xchat 2.4.4-0 in backports?09:54
Obi-1not working09:54
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thrice`shouldn't that be 2.6.0 by now ?09:54
bonezCould someone help me? "The source directory is not writable. You probably extracted the sources as root.09:54
bonez" You are running wineinstall as root, this is not advisable. Please rerun as a user.09:54
bonez" someone can help me to fix this? =(09:54
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johnhandHey. How do I get permission to edit my sources.list? I can only open it as read only...09:55
Rawplayer00      *     *       *           *            /home/kevin/bin/updatespam.sh >/dev/null 2>&1 is this every hour?09:55
thrice`johnhand, sudo09:55
bonezjohnhand; sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list09:55
johnhandand then a program opens or?09:55
bonezyes09:56
DShepherddell500: type yelp at the terminals. There is a link to the man pages...Crtl+f you can search for the command you want09:56
thrice`Seveas, around ?09:56
fanopnaicRawplayer: yes.09:56
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DShepherdterminal*09:56
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bonezCould someone help me? "The source directory is not writable. You probably extracted the sources as root.09:56
bonez " You are running wineinstall as root, this is not advisable. Please rerun as a user.09:56
bonez " someone can help me to fix this?09:56
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johnhandThanks a load! Gotta write that command down09:56
johnhandCheers!09:56
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johnhandWell, I should be going. Late in DK, and I gotta get up at 0600..09:57
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johnhandc ya09:57
johnhand!09:57
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, johnhand09:57
johnhand:D09:57
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thrice`Hey Seveas mind helping me a sec>?09:57
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Omega11hi09:57
Seveasthrice`, yes, i'm very busy09:57
Omega11ubuntu linux sucks09:57
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Omega11i prefer mandrake09:57
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thrice`Seveas, ok; nevermind :)09:57
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thrice`i thought you were in charge of the final OOo2 packs, but I read the wrong line09:58
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weobdoes winetools work with the current wine beta or no?09:58
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Obi-1hehehe.. if it sucks so much why you use it?09:58
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weobubuntu is far better than mandark09:58
Obi-1i think so to09:58
Seveasweob, this is not the place for distrowars09:58
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bonez1yo09:59
Obi-1the frindliest linux in th world09:59
weobthere is no war here09:59
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chopehi, is there a way to limit the mouse position so it doesnt go to the other screen in xinerama?09:59
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weobhow do you get the build number on wine?09:59
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Obi-1how can i disable the root no logging10:01
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SeveasObi-1, 'root no logging'?10:01
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Ophiocusis there a way to check what codec is totem using for audio playback? i aint geting audio from a vcd10:01
Obi-1in the loggin screen.. root10:01
LjLhow get i get a list like "dpkg -l", but with the complete package names shown and not truncated? actually, what i need in the end is a terse list of all installed packages10:02
Coburnhow can i remove rox panel from my xfdesktop????10:02
SeveasLjL, dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstalled10:02
OphiocusLjL, you can check that in sinaptic,. go to status and select installed10:02
LjLOphiocus: no, i need to automate the process10:02
LjLseveas: thanks, seems like what i need10:03
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absurdheroI have absolutely no questions at all. Ubuntu is working *perfectly* for me. And it only took a half hour to get everything set up just right. Thank You!10:03
YuliaIs there any p2p for music as ares inside distribution??10:03
misfit_toyabsurdhero, very cool10:04
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LjLSeveas: i think that it would be "deinstall" though, not "deinstalled", unless there's something i'm missing. in any case, what can my (installed) packages show other than "install"?10:04
DShepherdabsurdhero: great!! your among few :)10:04
SeveasLjL, you're right :)10:04
DShepherdYulia: I use limewire10:05
YuliaDShepherd, is good?10:05
DShepherdYulia: well I like it.... you can try amule10:05
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LjLSeveas: i'm trying to do some nice hacky stuff with auto-apt and other thingies... in the end, if all goes well, i want to have something that creates a .deb from a raw .tar.gz without any user intervention. hacky, of course, but i think it would be useful for many people :)10:06
SeveasLjL, you mean something like checkinstall :)10:06
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varsendaggerwhy can't i run gnome and kde simultaniously?10:07
LjLseveas: yes, but not quite! i mean to *use* checkinstall as well, but i want people to be able to "createdeb archive.tar.gz". auto-apt will install the required dependencies, and checkinstall will create the package, and the user will hopefully not have to worry about anything10:07
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DShepherdvarsendagger: is like wanting day and night at the same time10:07
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absurdherovarsendagger, you can run gnome and kde simultaniously10:07
absurdheroI can't think of any good reason to, but if you want the bottom bar from kde to start while gnome, type ctrl-F2 and type "kicker"10:08
DShepherdabsurdhero: you can?10:08
varsendaggerabsurdhero, how?  i actuall only wnat to run xfce and fluxbox simultaniously but it is the same concept10:08
absurdherooh, that is a little different10:08
Nebularok I've just spent the last few days setting up a samba print server with breeze, everything was working fine until I switched it over to a wireless card using ndiswrapper. Now opening a print dialog in winxp takes forever. any ideas as to why that would be?10:08
absurdheroI am not terribly familiar with xfce, but you may be able to start its nav bar thingy while in fluxbox10:09
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adriyelabsurdhero, indeed you can10:10
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DShepherdabsurdhero: oh..you mean run components of kde in gnome and vice-versa10:10
scofieldhola10:10
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Ahmuckhow do i get to root from the live cd ?10:10
absurdherowhat else is there besides components? I guess they do have their related window managers, but of course you can't run those at the same time10:10
scofieldsudo -s10:10
DShepherdAhmuck: sudo su10:10
Ahmuckthx10:11
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bob2varsendagger: that makes no sense10:11
bob2varsendagger: xfce includes a window manager10:11
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DShepherdbob2:  it's what he wants....maybe a thing in the future...but hey...let him hack at it10:12
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bob2...X only let you have one window manager per display10:12
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bob2I don't really think it's negotiable10:13
scofieldwhat , that make no sense ?10:13
bob2scofield: you can't have xfceand fluxbox's window manager runnin at the same time on the same display10:13
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scofieldok thk10:13
jalshi, you might remember me from about half hour ago, trying to dual boot ubuntu?10:13
Ahmuckuh oh, i think i am going to crash.  tried to run apt update from live cd10:14
jalsi was john- then10:14
bob2Ahmuck: that's fine, yo ucan install packages on the live cd (to ram)10:14
scofieldexactly10:14
bullraiserhi people, i couldnt change my screen resolution to more than 1024x768, however my current dual Win XP is configured for 1280x1024. I tried dpkg reconfigure, changing xorg.conf and lot more options but none working. When i tried to view the Xorg.0.log, it shows me this message: (II) ATI(0): Not using mode "1280x1024@75" (exceeds panel dimensions). Could anyone pls help me out.10:15
varsendaggeri wnat to be able to hit ctl+alt+F3 and (somehow start ) fluxbox and then hit ctl alt F4 and start xfce or gnome or kde or whatever else i wnat10:15
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DShepherd!tell bullraiser about ati10:15
omegHmm... I don't have permission to visit my external hard drive sd1.10:15
omeg*sda110:15
DShepherdvarsendagger: oh... nice idea!10:16
bob2varsendagger: that's fine, and simple10:16
bullraiserthanks DShepherd, would try to look over the link and get back with the results shortly10:16
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bob2!+fixres10:16
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ubotufixres is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:16
DShepherdbullraiser: np10:16
bob2bullraiser:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:16
varsendaggerdo yall know how to do it10:16
bob2varsendagger: you'd need to start another gdm instance on another VT10:16
omegWhy can't I view my external hard drive? I don't have permission for some reason even though this is a clean install.10:16
Ahmuckthe live cd is very stable imho10:16
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jonazback again :)10:17
omegI am obviously the owner as I'm the only user on the entire system.10:17
jonazubuntu + osx work fine now10:17
omeg"Root" seems to be the owner.10:17
jonaznow i got another problem: i want to make wine, but cli says: bash: make: command not found10:17
fxnI burned the disc image for ppc (5.10) and the powerbook does not boot with it, do I need to burn it in any special way to use it as live cd?10:17
lesshasteomeg: do you know what root is?10:17
varsendaggerok i don't have gdm installed, shold i just be able to run startFluxbox?10:17
bob2omeg: you mean "Why don't I have read/write permissions to a windows filesystem I mounted using /etc/fstab?"?10:17
omegYeah, the top level user, right?10:17
varsendagger---with out caps10:17
lesshasteomeg: on linux just because you are the only user does not mean you own everything10:17
bob2omeg: or is it being automounted incorrectly?10:17
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silversurfer does sm1 know how to get multiple window managers launched at the same time10:18
omegHmm. It's because it's NTFS?10:18
mojoHEY ALL - Anyone know a site like broadbandreports for Dial-UP ISP reviews and listings?  I am trying to find a good, inexpensive ISP for my friend to get on-line ASAP.  Thanks!10:18
Digisjonaz, apt-get install build-essentials10:18
lesshasteomeg: I doubt it.. how are you attempting to mount it?10:18
bob2silversurfer: it's not possible10:18
mojoPS - I am in middle USA10:18
varsendaggermojo where?10:18
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varsendaggerahh10:18
silversurferfor exemple en display 7 drA7 and on 8 gnome10:18
bob2varsendagger: login to a VT, 'startx', login to another, 'startx -- :1'10:18
omegI clean installed the system and didn't change anything to the default settings; I assume that when starting Ubuntu, it would just allow me to normally use any device connected to my computer, like an USB2.0 external hard drive.10:18
bob2silversurfer: start another X server10:18
mojoFairview, Tennessee (40min E.S.E. of Nashville)10:18
bob2silversurfer: e.g. 'startx -- :1' in a virtual terminal10:19
omegI bet it's because it's NTFS. My other external hard drive is still on FAT32.10:19
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omegAnd I can access that one just fine.10:19
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lesshasteomeg: how are you mounting the ones that work fine?10:19
bob2omeg: you didn't tell us how it was being mounted10:19
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mojovarsendagger: My friend can't even get DSL or Cable in his country locale10:19
silversurferthanks10:19
bob2omeg: also, if it's NTFS, you'll only be able to read it10:19
lesshasteomeg: can you tell me what is in /etc/fstab for the external drive?10:19
DShepherdbob2:  how do you specify which desktop manager or windows manager to use10:19
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jonazd'oh !!! thanks, Digis !10:19
tuxihi10:20
Zim_256Hello!10:20
omegI don't know how I'm "mounting" it, bob2. I just started Ubuntu like normal after a clean install. This is my first time using Breezy.10:20
jonazhow long will wine take to compile approx. ?:))10:20
DShepherdbob2: startx starts your default....I think. correct me if I am wrong10:20
lesshasteomeg: what do you do to access the drive?10:20
Zim_256somebody knows how to configure the video driver under debian?10:20
tuxiis it possible to mirror a website and all links going off from it (from one html file)10:20
lesshasteomeg: click on something?10:20
omegJust trying to double-click on the icon in "computer".10:20
ciushello10:20
bob2DShepherd: startx /usr/bin/yourwindowmanagerhere10:20
lesshasteomeg: aha... can you paste /etc/fstab to #flood?10:20
bob2omeg: so it's being automounted as I suggested?10:20
omegEr... how do I get /etc/fstab?10:21
bob2lesshaste: there won't be a fstab entry if it's a usb device10:21
Zim_256?10:21
omegIs that a terminal command?10:21
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lesshastebob2: true...10:21
bob2omeg: no, it's a filename10:21
DShepherdbob2: ahh makes sense thanks10:21
omegAh, lemme find that out10:21
lesshasteomeg: listen to bob2 ... he is more on the case :)10:21
omegYeah... :P10:21
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varsendaggerok i got a fatal server error the server is allready running on display 010:21
bob2omeg: can you show us the output of 'mount' in #flood?10:21
bob2(that is a command)10:21
omegI'm not sure if it's being automounted.10:21
omegOkay10:21
bob2varsendagger: yes, you need to actually do what I said10:21
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bob2varsendagger: running some other simialr command line will not work10:21
bob2tuxi: wget --mirror would be a good start10:22
hav0khey, whats a good program for downloading podcasts for linux?10:22
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ciusWould anyone know how to changed your xserver layout from the gdm greeter?10:22
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varsendaggerwhat is a VT?10:22
tuxibob2, but this way i mirror the whole site10:22
omegNow all I gotta do is figure out how to open a terminal window10:22
varsendaggerbob2,10:22
bob2varsendagger: 'startx /usr/bin/fluxbox -- :1' will start a new X server with fluxbox on it10:22
varsendaggerahhh10:22
bob2varsendagger: if you don't understand something I suggest, tell me.  silently ignoring it, then claiming it didn't work is really annoying.10:22
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Zim_256somebody knows how to configure the video driver under debian? Please send private!10:23
bob2omeg: applications > accessories > terminal10:23
bob2Zim_256: no, ask a proper question10:23
omegOh, it's under accessories now10:23
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medgnohow do I check for if GLX is enabled from the terminal?10:23
hav0kdoes anyone download podcasts?10:23
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bob2Zim_256: at the minimum, mention what card it is, and what you're trying to do10:23
bob2hav0k: I hear podcatcher is good10:23
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bob2hav0k: also, apt-cache search podcast10:23
bob2medgno: glxinfo10:23
Zim_256it's a Intel Video card10:23
anamariacan i upgrade from hoary to breezy?10:23
hav0khmm, good idea10:23
bob2omeg: yeah, no idea why it was moved10:23
omegbob2: I just pasted mount in #flood.10:23
bob2anamaria: yes, /topic10:23
bob2omeg: thanks10:23
lesshasteZim_256: the problem is that you need to provide enough information that someone could possibly answer your question. You also need to do it in less than 3 lines :)10:23
varsendaggerbob2,  you are awesome10:23
bob2Zim_256: as in i810 or i855?10:24
jah_raztahdoes ubuntu ship with currupt X11 headers?10:24
varsendaggeranamaria, yes10:24
medgnoit's not installed on the livecd10:24
DShepherdbob2 : startx /usr/bin/kde for kde??10:24
Zim_256it comes with a ASRock p4i45GV10:24
anamariabob2 how from synaptic?10:24
cfarawtek u out there10:24
Zim_256I really don't know the exact model10:24
hav0kwell, i guess ill just look around for some of them.  thanks bob210:24
lesshastehav0k: not yet :)10:24
bob2omeg: which in /media are inaccessible?10:24
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bob2DShepherd: startkde, I'd think10:24
DShepherdok10:24
Zim_256but it doesn't work with the intel810 driver10:24
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bob2jah_raztah: yes, ubuntu patches them to be broken10:24
bob2anamaria: read the channel topic10:24
dreadnoughtUbotu: tell me about java10:25
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bob2Zim_256: you need to find out the model10:25
omegbob2: hda2 and sda1.10:25
ciusI runt a dual head xserver to my tv and monitor, but when i play games, I'd like to just run it on my monitor because the screen on the tv causes slow down in my games.  Anyone know how to easily switch between the two?10:25
dreadnoughthey im back on!10:25
bob2Zim_256: if you have no idea, 'lspci | grep -i display', paste it to #flood10:25
jah_raztahbob2: why?10:25
bob2cius: depends how you set it up10:25
cfacan any1 help ndiswrapper, i have the win inf file10:25
bob2cius: ie what chipset it is, more or less10:25
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bob2jah_raztah: I'm being sarcastic, of course they're not corrupt10:25
bob2jah_raztah: if you're having an issue, tell us10:25
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bob2omeg: but sdb1 is fine?10:26
ciusbob2, I'm running a geforce 5900 with nvidia drivers and using nvtv for my tv output10:26
anamariabo210:26
anamariabob210:26
omegYeah, sdb1 is fine. It's FAT32.10:26
bob2cius: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper10:26
bob2er10:26
bob2cfa: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper10:26
bob2anamaria: ?10:26
bob2cius: nvtv doesn't disable it then?10:26
medgnodoes the i810 driver not have support for GLX? I booted from the livecd, and everything's working but that10:26
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bob2omeg: what about 'ls -l /media/', in #flood?10:27
bob2medgno: works for me10:27
cfabob2 thanx will go now BRB10:27
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bob2medgno: sure you're using it and not vesa or such?10:27
Zim_256It's a Intel Extreme graphics, it's onboard in a intel 845GV chipset10:27
medgnobob2, thanks. I guess I'll need to install to fight this one10:27
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DShepherdbob2 are you sure you can more than one desktop manageers with the VT?10:27
omegbob2: pasting...10:27
treefroganyone here have any ecperence with wireless cards? mine is installed or seems to be. enabled but not working.!!10:27
omegAnd done10:28
bob2DShepherd: I don't know what you mean10:28
omegWow10:28
varsendaggerbob2, i got alot closer with that but it said it can't find cat10:28
bob2DShepherd: you can only use one window manager per X display, but you can have more than one X server on a machine10:28
ciusbob2, I was under the impression that nvtv did the tv out on nvidia cards.  I didn't think simply killing nvtv would affect the xserver10:28
omegLook at the differences in CHMOD.10:28
medgnobob2, reasonably sure. My /etc/X11/xorg.conf says it's using i810. But I'm not sure if the livecd set things up fully.10:28
bob2except multiple X servers makes my laptop fuckup on sleep10:28
WhiteScorpionHi all10:28
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bob2Zim_256: put your /var/log/X.org.log up somewhere10:28
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varsendaggerBRB10:28
medgnoand I'm running a prerelease of breezy, since that was the only iso I had on my computer10:28
bob2varsendagger: you'd need to show us the full error in #flood10:28
varsendaggerjust a sec10:29
DShepherdbob2: at the vt = startxfce4 says...that server is already active10:29
bob2cius: hm, not killing it, I thought that command let you enable/diable tv-out.10:29
bob2cius: I've never used it, tho, so I could certainly be wrong10:29
DShepherdbob2: I have gdm running10:29
lesshastemedgno: have you updated?10:29
bob2DShepherd: if X is already running, it won't work10:29
bob2DShepherd: right10:29
bob2DShepherd: startx /usr/bin/whatever -- :110:29
varsendaggerjust a sec10:29
WhiteScorpionJust a quick question: I love the idea behind ubuntu so i want to put the logo / link on my site as a token of my appreciation. Any idea which logo i could use best?10:29
bob2DShepherd: that tells it to start display '1' (0 is the default, and is where gdm is running)10:29
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ciusbob2, I wonder if disabling tvout would free up the resources used by it on the video card so that my games would run full speed?10:30
DShepherdbob2 oh thanks10:30
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bob2medgno: hm, ok10:30
dreadnoughthey i think that ubuntu screwed up mi window partition10:30
Zim_256it runs well with the knoppix 5.6 Live CD, using the i810 driver but i try to use this driver in debian and it doesn't work, It says that i haven't a 810 Vid. card10:30
bob2medgno: perhaps the snapshot you had was broken, but I don't actually have any evidence for that :)10:30
medgnolesshaste, the story is, for a long while my laptop's clock would race. I found a kernel parameter to try to pass to it. And this iso was the most recent livecd I had. The clock racing was fixed, so I'm downloading an install cd10:30
bob2DShepherd: np10:30
Rev-Marcis there anything I can download to play a video file that is in .wmv format?10:30
bob2cius: I don't know, I wouldn't think it'd make much difference10:30
medgnobob2, I wouldn't doubt it10:31
treefrogWhiteScorpion: just use the one that represents the version you r using.. thats what id do anyway10:31
bob2Zim_256: er, if you're using Debian, you're in the wrongl channel10:31
varsendaggerRev-Marc, Mplayer10:31
bob2Rev-Marc: wiki.ubunut.com/RestrictedFormats10:31
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bob2WhiteScorpion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebsiteButtons10:31
Zim_256i'm current using a ubuntu LiveCD, sorry10:31
Rev-Marcmplayer wont play it10:31
lesshastemedgno: ok.. but can't you just upgrade with apt-get?10:31
WhiteScorpiontreefrog: not using any yet. just ordered the cd.10:31
varsendaggerreally?10:31
lesshastemedgno: which motherboard out of interest?10:31
WhiteScorpionbob2: thanks !10:31
bob2WhiteScorpion: np10:31
ciusbob2, ok, thanks, I'll try to find some more info on it.10:31
bob2omeg: hm, that's the problem, but I wonder why it's doing it10:32
medgnolesshaste, not sure. It's an hp pavillion laptop, 933 Mhz celeron10:32
omegHmm10:32
bob2cius: sorry I can't be of more help10:32
omegSo it's because it's NTFS?10:32
varsendaggerbob2, how could i get the error i over to #flood?10:32
bob2cius: #nvidia may know more?10:32
omegIs it because I updated my system (new Linux kernel, and is still waiting for a reboot)?10:32
mojoQ_Continuum: Anyone know of good site comparing/listing dial-up ISPs that service USA/Tennessee?  I need Ubuntu-friendly dial-up on a shoe-string budget for my friend.  THANKS!10:32
treefrogWhiteScorpion: that CD can take a while to land. I'd do an internet caffe job on it.10:32
bob2omeg: well, that seems to be triggering the bug, but the direct problem is that it's being mounted with the wrong owner10:32
omegAha!10:32
bob2omeg: oh, what kernel?10:32
omegBut all my filesystems belong to "root".10:33
WhiteScorpiontreefrog: well, my dad just downloaded it, so i can start as soon as i visit my parents again...10:33
weobhow do i change permissions for a file ?10:33
Zim_256Ok, i'm just about to toast the Ubuntu install CD to replace Debian10:33
Zim_256!!10:33
ubotuI heard ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me10:33
omegI'm not sure, actually. I just clean installed Ubuntu, updated, and it told me that I now have a new Linux kernel and that I should restart as soon as possible.10:33
treefrogWhiteScorpion: cool. :-)10:33
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lesshastemedgno: and why not upgrade with apt-get?10:33
omegSo all my filesystems belong to root, and I can access all except those two.10:34
bob2weob: what are you trying to do?10:34
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WhiteScorpiontreefrog: yes it is. I just hope it will be just as much fun as i have with slack now ;-)10:34
lucaasi have a small issue bugging me, the loopback interface only has an ipv6 adress on startup, so i have to run "sudo ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 up" after every startup, how can i set "lo" to have an ipv4 adress on startup aswell?10:34
lucaas:)10:34
varsendaggerZim what's wrong?10:34
omegBoth inaccessible filesystems are NTFS.10:34
weobtrying to install a file but it has the permission of  root10:34
bob2omeg: well, it's possible rebooting will help, if other things like udev also got updated10:34
Zim_256Can i run Win apps in ubuntu?10:34
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varsendaggerZim_256, what's wrong?10:34
omegHmm10:34
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bob2lucaas: paste your /etc/network/interfaces to #flood10:34
thrushweob: apropos permission10:34
bob2Zim_256: some of them10:34
weobcopied from ntfs10:34
omegBut it's kind of strange that it would do that, still.10:34
treefroganyone have any experence with Wireles cards.. My Broadcome is there but not working.. !!10:34
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Sianishi all10:34
DShepherdbob2 its telling me no protocl specified10:34
bob2weob: 'sudo chown $USER filename'10:34
The_Belgainquick question about how hard drive partitions appear in ubuntu... i've used EVMS gui to make some partitions (of type RAID autodetect) on a drive.... running 'fdisk -l' lists the partitions on the this drive as /dev/sdb5, /dev/sdb6 and so on10:34
medgnolesshaste, the only other install cd I have is 4.10 And I'm on an ungodly slow dorm connection10:34
omegI mean, you can't just change the owner or permissions of a hard drive while Linux is running, right?10:34
Sianisi have a little question10:34
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medgnoand I had problems with hoary on that laptop10:34
bob2treefrog: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper10:35
Sianishow can i remove some element outto gnome menu?10:35
The_Belgainbut trying to pass these in to mdadm to create a RAID5 array, it complains that is can't find these?10:35
lesshastemedgno: ok10:35
bob2DShepherd: need to see the full error in #flood10:35
SianisSMEG doesn't work10:35
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The_Belgainam i missing something about how partitions get named by evms here?10:35
lesshastemedgno: downloading the install cd should be no faster than upgrading of course10:35
DShepherdj /#flood10:35
bob2omeg: you can indeed10:35
omegAnyway, thanks for your help so far. I'm going to try restarting.10:35
omegBe back in a second...10:35
Sianisit's an *ing ATI "never Works" Control icon10:35
bob2omeg: ok10:35
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weobthat command didnt work lol10:35
treefrogbob2: I'll go over it all again but I did that.. Oh well I can only learn more. :-)10:35
Zim_256i downloaded a lot of Motorola Cell apps and i need win to run it. Actually i have a boottime selector to select which OS start.10:36
bob2treefrog: then you need to be more specific about what isn't working10:36
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cfabob2 , i installed the wireless.inf but did not show up in the networking setting. builtin wireless card10:36
medgnolesshaste, yeah, but I don't feel confident upgrading from 4.10 to 5.10 without a stopover in 5.0410:36
bob2weob: 'didnt work' is not a useful description of the problem10:36
Sianissomeone? help me pls!10:36
bob2cfa: ignore that, and read the end of 'dmesg'.10:36
weobsays owned by root...10:36
bob2Sianis: please stop it10:36
bob2weob: then you didn't actually run what I said10:36
weobi need it to be owned by my home10:36
cfabob 210:36
cfabob2 ok10:36
bob2weob: read what I said again, and try again10:36
weobyes i did10:36
LjLhm how does one represent a newline in a regexp?10:36
Sianisbob2, so nobody can answer me? :(10:36
Zim_256USB drivers and those things will work well under ubuntu?10:36
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bob2weob: if you ran it with sudo, it won't give that error10:37
bob2Zim_256: usb drivers for *what*?10:37
weobit didnt give that error10:37
bob2Zim_256: out of the box, ubuntu supports more hardware than any other OS, yes10:37
Zim_256Motorola ROKR E110:37
weobits not an error = simply when i check the file - it still belongs to root10:37
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bob2(note: I have no evidence for this)10:37
The_Belgainare regions created by evms supposed to be available to other proggies such as mdadm?10:37
lesshastemedgno: ok :)10:37
wilstarhow can i install flash plug-in and java in amd64?10:37
Zim_256I have that phone and i love to tune it10:37
bob2weob: so, run 'sudo chown $USER filename ; ls -ld filename' and paste the output to #flood10:37
SianisHow can i delete somthing frome gnome menu?10:37
bob2Sianis: please stop10:38
bob2Sianis: just wait patiently10:38
medgnolesshaste, and it never hurts to have it sitting around if someone else want to be ubuntuified10:38
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Sianisbut i have a problem10:38
bob2Sianis: if no one here knows, perhaps people on the mailing list or forums will know10:38
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Zim_256Where i can find some "Mobile Phone Tools" or similar for linux?10:38
bob2Sianis: yes, and you already asked.  it's unlikely anyone joined in the last 3 seconds who knew the answer.10:38
bob2Zim_256: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto10:38
Sianisyes sir! :)10:38
bob2Zim_256: searching for motorola or so would be a good start10:38
DShepherdSianis: have you tried menu editor?10:38
treefrogbob2: ok the card is installed as per HOW TO config broadcom cards un ubuntu. and it is there in system settings and I even managed to enable it. but it is not connecting. iwconfig shows a mac add of 00 00 00 00 00 00 0010:38
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bob2wilstar: there's no amd64 flash plugin, afaik10:39
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Sianisyes...i unsigned, restart the panel, but i see already10:39
weobhow do i get wine to run without doing sudo ?10:39
omegHi there.10:39
bob2wilstar: if you care about binary stuff like that, you'll probably be happier with the i386 port10:39
omegNo go so far!10:39
bob2weob: wine never needs to be run under sudo10:39
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Sianisso SMEG doesn't work ....10:39
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cfabob2: this is what i got - ndiswrapper (ndiswrapper_load_driver:92): loadndiswrapper failed (65280); check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'10:39
DShepherdSianis: if not applicatons menu -- system tools -- application menu editor10:39
omegbob2: I'm back, and I brought back both the knowledge that the start-up says "failed" for "mounting local volumes" and that when trying to access the drives, I get a more elaborate error message.10:39
wilstarbob2, can i install firefox i386?10:39
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Ahmuckhow do i modify the apt souce list ?10:39
guptaQuick question, where are the services status(disabled, running etc) stored?? For backup purposes10:39
bob2cfa: paste the last ten or so lines from /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood10:40
DShepherdSianis: show delete or put anything or everything in the gnome meni10:40
omegbob2: Want me to show the error message in #flood?10:40
DShepherdmenu*10:40
weobwell apparently for me it does10:40
SianisDShepherd, it is in the application10:40
lekvarAhmuck: vi /etc/apt/sources.list10:40
bob2omeg: hm, #flood?10:40
weobits the only way it runs10:40
DShepherdSianis:? huh10:40
naliothubotu: tell Ahmuck about repos10:40
omegYeah10:40
bob2wilstar: the tarball, yes, the .deb, no10:40
omegI'll paste it10:40
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bob2wilstar: (not without a chroot, anyway)10:40
W|-|ite_Wol|-Hello, I have 1 question I asked for cd's in ship it in october 17 and today is November 13... is it normal to take so long to ship it?10:40
bob2gupta: they're not10:40
omegThere it is10:40
Zim_256Search for Motorola: 0 results :(10:40
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lucaasbob2, i see that lots of people are bugging you, but if you want to look at it, its here: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/450010:40
bob2gupta: or, they are, in /etc/rc2.d/10:40
SianisSMEG see the icon, but i cannot deselect, or delete10:40
bob2Ahmuck: what are you trying to do?10:40
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thrushW|-|ite_Wol|-: thats not long trust me10:40
Ahmuckget scim-anthy10:40
ksmurfI'm having issues with smeg.  My .config dir does not exist?    How can I fix it?10:40
bob2W|-|ite_Wol|-: you would not believe how many jillion cds have been ordered10:40
guptak thax bob2. any other way to backup services status?10:40
W|-|ite_Wol|-I live in portugal... :-S10:41
W|-|ite_Wol|-bob2 yes i know10:41
bob_anyone have any success with the ATI All In Wonder 9800?10:41
joosepWhen trying to mount an USB stick i get "Error: could not execute pmount"10:41
W|-|ite_Wol|-when its free many people order.10:41
bob2gupta: the default is for everything to run on boot, so, by default, htere's not much to backup10:41
joosephow to fix it?10:41
DShepherdSianis: what program?10:41
bob2bob_: you need to be more specific about what you're trying to do with it10:41
Zim_256Ok, i gotta go!10:41
lucaasW|-|ite_Wol|-, if you want the cd fast, i sugest downloading and burning it10:41
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bob2bob_: it should work out of he box with X10:41
Yuliahi...10:41
Zim_256Thanks for everything!10:41
bob2joosep: this is a default breezy system?10:41
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omegSo10:41
SianisDShepherd, it's an ATI control icon10:41
lucaaslo Yulia :>10:41
bob_it does work with X, but no tv capture...10:41
W|-|ite_Wol|-lucaas i know :-) just want the original to have it :-)10:41
W|-|ite_Wol|-heheh10:42
gteppelI'm in a quandry... I've used KDE in the past and find it just to messy to look, I love the simplicity of gnome! However KDE seems to be faster, window minizming/maxamizing transitions are nice and smooth and the gui is more responsive. I realize that most of this has to do with the window manager and the blame doesn't rest completely on the desktop enviroment. What other window managers are out there that will provide nicer looking10:42
gteppelgui animations and will just generally speed up my desktop. I find gnome is unbearbley slow and I have a AMD 1800XP, 768 RAM, and Geforce4 128MB video card. I hate to make the comparison but I'm looking for the way Windows and OSX feels, not looks, but just feels. Hope I'm making sense!, any help would be appreciated!10:42
DShepherdSianis: you just dont want it to show in the menus right?10:42
omegIt seems like Ubuntu just doesn't know how to access my NTFS external hard disk. Too bad. :(10:42
bob2lucaas: the '10:42
Yuliais not there a bitcomet package for ubuntu?10:42
bob2ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 up' line should not be there10:42
Zim_256And greetz from     A r g e n t i n a  ! ! !10:42
W|-|ite_Wol|-oki well i supose i just wait a bit :-)10:42
cfanon2 i did10:42
SianisDShepherd, yes yes10:42
bob2bob_: do you need gatos for that?10:42
joosepbob2: no actually it's a downgraded kubuntu system with ubuntu-desktop installed10:42
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bob_bob2:i installed gatos, but still no joy..10:42
bob2bob_: ok10:42
bob2joosep: uh10:42
bob_bob2: i need a direction to start working in.10:42
lucaasbob2, okay, thanks alot, i'l try without it10:42
joosepbob2: but breezy yes10:42
W|-|ite_Wol|-gatos means Cats in portuguese10:42
bob2joosep: do you have pmount installed?10:42
joosepbob2: yes10:42
bob_y espanol10:42
bluefrog-10who could point me to a working /etc/skel howto, not theroy that everybody's is rewriting happily without understanding how to do it10:43
W|-|ite_Wol|-:-D10:43
Yulialucaas, ??10:43
DShepherdSianis: open smeg10:43
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bob2omeg: hm, and your /etc/fstab?10:43
lucaasYulia, lo=hello10:43
lucaas:>10:43
W|-|ite_Wol|-I hope some day ubuntu live cd brings de gcc mips compiler :-|10:43
SianisDShepherd, opened10:43
bob2W|-|ite_Wol|-: huh?10:43
omegIt shows the drives as NTFS volumes.10:43
Yuliaups!10:43
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bob2W|-|ite_Wol|-: you can install a cross-compiler on it if you want to10:43
DShepherdSianis: you see applications at the top?10:43
lesshasteomeg: I assure you it can be done in ubuntu :)10:44
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W|-|ite_Wol|-I know.. but im rookie10:44
bob2W|-|ite_Wol|-: there is no way a mips cross-compiler is going to be on the live cd by default10:44
SianisDShepherd, yes!10:44
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omegLet me paste what fstab says in #flood, then10:44
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DShepherdSianis: in the right panel....you should still all the stuff unda apps10:44
W|-|ite_Wol|-bob2 it has for x86 architecture10:44
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ciusdo .desktop files in the xsessions dir contain info about which server layout to use (after login from gdm)10:44
cius?10:44
W|-|ite_Wol|-its only some few files.. lol.. i need to learn how to install it10:44
Xyc1what is the IRC command to get rid of your ghosts or w/e they are called?10:44
DShepherdSianis: you shoould be able to check and uncheck over there10:44
bob2W|-|ite_Wol|-: apt-cache show toolchain-source10:44
W|-|ite_Wol|-its very usefull to see the assembler code of mips10:44
bob2cius: don't think so10:45
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szazhello all...10:45
bob2Xyc1: it's server specific; /msg nickserv help10:45
szazI could do with some help sorting out a users/groups problem10:45
szazany takers?10:45
SianisDShepherd, i try it jet, i unsigned not once, but when close, it's signe again10:45
ciusbob2, k, thanks10:45
DShepherdSianis: still = see10:45
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lesshasteomeg: sda1 is the one you are trying to mount?10:45
SianisDShepherd, i don't understand why...i cannot unsig or delet it10:45
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bob2szaz: it's a lot easier if you just ask10:45
szazI use usermod to change the groups I belong to - I must have missed something - sudo no longer works10:46
erUSULszaz, ask and we'll see if somebody can help10:46
bob2lesshaste: ok, you were right, my apologies :-)10:46
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omegYeah, sda1. Actually, for some reason it's no longer giving me an error message when I try to view it now, just a blank folder.10:46
lesshastebob2: :)10:46
bob2omeg: comment out those lines in /etc/fstab (add a # to the beginning of the line)10:46
synapsis_hello i just wanted to say i'm finally getting out of windows and i'm looking forward to using ubuntu. however i'm installing as we speak, if someone could assist me, i would much appreciate it10:46
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paul__How do I install my printer when connected to a router10:46
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omegbob2: it's a read-only file.10:46
erUSULszaz, you have deleted your user from admin group10:46
bob2synapsis_: best to just ask specific questions as you come upon them10:46
Xyc0bob2: thanks again bob210:46
DShepherdSianis: not sure why you having the prob....10:46
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lesshasteomeg: can you use the command line?10:47
nitrocksis there a way to do an install of ubuntu strictly over the net?.. i'm having some issues with my cd drive, it keeps failing in the middle of the install at different points, with different cds10:47
bob2szaz: why did you change your default group selection?10:47
lesshasteomeg: it is easier for me :)10:47
synapsis_bobslaede: thanks10:47
bobessutiowhat do I need for tv capture under linux?10:47
synapsis_erase entire disk, or erase entire disk and use LVM ?10:47
szazyes - I think I have10:47
weobanyone else have problem with acid rip crashing-freezing- i tried xvid codec -10:47
bob2omeg: 'sudo nano /etc/fstab', it should have help at the bottom of the screen10:47
nitrockscan i do an install from grub?10:47
szazHow do I get back in the group without acces to sudo?10:47
bob2szaz: reboot into recovery mode (it's a grub option at boot time), and run 'adduser yourusername admin'10:47
bob2nitrocks: theoretically10:47
SianisDShepherd, that's the probleme why i ' am here ... i thing i not lama, but this probleme is the hard for me10:47
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cfabob2 i pasted the info on #flood10:47
synapsis_i'm unsure what LVM means, and if i should use it when i'm installing ubuntu10:47
nitrocksbob2: where should i start?10:47
omegOkay, both of those lines are commented out and the file is saved.10:47
DShepherdSianis: srry but I can help ypu10:48
etherclearsynapsis: do you plan on dual-booting the system?10:48
DShepherdyou*10:48
Xyc0bobessutio: Im pretty sure it depends on your video card/drivers10:48
lesshastebob2: I'll leave you to it :) good luck!10:48
synapsis_etherclear: negitive, i want to use strictly ubuntu10:48
szazThankyou - how do I invoke grub?10:48
SianisDShepherd, so i thanks10:48
bobessutioXyc0: ok, thanks10:48
Xyc0bobessutio: what are you using?10:48
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bobessutioXyc0: ATI all in wonder 9800 pro10:48
Xyc0bobessutio: Oh me too :D10:49
synapsis_etherclear: i figure that didn't answer your question did it? =P10:49
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bobessutioXyc0: any luck?10:49
lesshasteomeg: I am leaving you in the trusty hands of bob2 :)10:49
OrbordeWhat's the CLI command to count the number of lines in a text file?10:49
erUSULszaz, boot with a livecd and edit /etc/groups directly10:49
etherclearsynapsis: then if you have no data on the drive tell it to erase the disk10:49
Sianisbye all good night10:49
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bob2synapsis_: if you don't know what it means, don't use it10:49
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bob2lesshaste: adios, thanks :-)10:49
synapsis_etherclear: thanks =)10:49
lesshasteomeg: it should be mount ro of course10:49
omegOkay :P A "cdrom0" popped up, by the way. And I only have one DVD-RAM drive.10:49
lesshasteNOT rw10:49
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etherclearsynapsis: sry just slow here10:49
bob2Orborde: wc -l filename10:49
lesshasteomeg: add noauto,ro,users10:49
Corincan anyone here help me with webmin?10:49
bob2omeg: that's normal(ish)10:50
Corinor proftpd?10:50
erUSULOrborde, wc10:50
szazbob2: thanks, I'll give it a go10:50
lesshasteomeg: instead of defaults10:50
omeglesshaste: er... how?10:50
nitrockswhat would be the easiset way to install ubuntu w/o copying the files from the cdrom?.. i'm able to boot off a cd, but once i start doing heavy data transfers from a cd, I get I/O errors..10:50
jonazis there a way to show hidden files with xfce? i cant find the setting10:50
Orbordebob2 / erUSUL : Thanks10:50
lesshasteomeg: ask bob2  :) bye10:50
bob2omeg: you'll probably need to unmount everything on the usb drives and replug them10:50
omegBut I just commented the lines out.10:50
Ophiocusis there a way to put like a confirm window before closing xchat?10:50
bob2nitrocks: whatsort of machine is it?10:50
synapsis_etherclear: its ok. it says that partion #1 (hda) as ext3, and partion #5 (hda) as swap. is it ok with deleting those?10:50
nitrockscan i use a standards x86 install iso?10:50
Corinanyone? help with webmin or proftpd?10:50
bobessutioXyc0: have you gottend tv capture to work?10:50
Corinplease10:50
nitrocksbob2: dell inspiron 9100 laptop10:50
Corin:)10:50
bob2omeg: yeah, but they won't be remounted with the new settings until you replug them10:50
bob2nitrocks: can it PXE boot?10:51
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omegOkay, so I have to unplug them and replug them.10:51
bob2Corin: you haven't asked a real question yet10:51
Xyc0bobessutio: I have b4, im looking at my bookmarks to see what could help you10:51
bob2omeg: after unmounting them, yes10:51
nitrocksbob2: i'm not sure i know what a PXE boot is10:51
omegah10:51
etherclearsynapsis_: hmm, did you just write those to the drive or were they there from a previous linux install?10:51
bobessutioXyc0: cool, thanks10:51
szazhas anyone here successfully installed TurboGears on Breezy Badger?10:51
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nitrocksbob2: network?10:51
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[linner] hello everyone ;)10:51
nalioth[linner] : howdy10:51
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[linner] nalioth:  how are ya'?10:52
Corinbob2, ive installed apache, mysql, php, phpmyadmin, webmin and proftpd10:52
bob2nitrocks: yeah10:52
omegActually, I just replugged them (without reading your last message) and they just popped up on my screen. "Dada" and "LACIE" are now working fine. Although my NTFS Windows volume isn't, but that's not a big deal.10:52
bob2nitrocks: that'd be the simplest solution10:52
synapsis_etherclear: i previously was trying to install about half an hour ago, before i cancled to go and backup some things. so it may have been created within the initial installation, i'm unsure.10:52
Corini want to give ftp access to /var/www/folder1/10:52
bob2szaz: yes, it's simple10:52
Corinand to get webmin working...10:52
[linner] !tell me about mulitverse10:52
szazI've tried all day - no luck10:52
wastrelhi - i have an inkjet printer set up using CUPS, epson stylus c86...  I need to clean the print heads, epson's site says i should use an epson utility to do this... is there any equivalent in CUPS or ubuntu?10:52
[linner] !tell me about repositories10:52
naliothubotu: tell [linner]  about sources10:52
bob2omeg: to fix that, replace 'defaults' with 'defaults,umask=000' in /etc/fstab, for the windows hard disk10:52
szazLoads of errors resulting in gcc exiting with status 110:52
[linner] thank you nalioth10:52
bob2Corin: I'm not sure what this has to do with webmin10:52
varsendaggerhey waht has two thumbs and can fun xfce and fluxbox at the same time?10:53
bob2Corin: configuring proftpd to do that is simple10:53
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bob2szaz: which you're going to paste in #flood...?10:53
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etherclearsynapsis_: okay, then its probably okay to wipe those so as to have a clean drive, then just do the same thing and ubuntu will automatically set up your filesystem and swap10:53
varsendaggerthis guy10:53
bob2hah10:53
bob2congrats10:53
szazbob2: er... I will when I sort out this sudo problem!10:53
[linner] nalioth:  i'm trying to update my repos again so i can get mulitverse stuff too ... couldn't do it the other night cause they were down10:53
cfabob2  i c u r busy is there any1 else i can talk to about the ndiswrapper failing10:53
Xyc0bobessutio: look into Freevo packages10:53
Corinbob2, maybe its simple, but how do i do it?10:53
omegActually, since I don't want to even touch that drive at all, I think I might just leave it as it is. Thanks a lot, bob2. :)10:53
szazbob2: can't run the install command at present10:53
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weobhow do i link wine to run so that it will run when i type it in terminal?10:54
varsendaggerwait wait it crashed10:54
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Dez[debian] i need some help10:54
varsendagger:(10:54
bobessutioXyc0: cool, brb10:54
bob2szaz: oh, rebooting into recovery mode will fix that10:54
Xyc0bobessutio: i think ubuntuforums has some good infor on it10:54
Dez[debian] how do i reconfigure my screen Resolution10:54
bob2cfa: did you paste the bit of syslog to #flood that Iasked for?10:54
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bob2Corin: edit the proftpd config file10:54
bob2omeg: no problem, good luck10:54
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bob2watnu: how do you mean?10:54
bob2!+fixres10:54
synapsis_etherclear: much appreciated, i'll let you know if i run inot anything else10:54
ubotufrom memory, fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:54
bob2Dez[debian] : ^10:54
szazbob2: I installed python2.4-dev package, did you have to install anything else prior to running the turboGears setup.py scrtipt?10:54
cfabob2 i pasted the /ect/apt/source.list10:54
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Dez[debian] Thx bob10:55
bob2cfa: and the end of /var/log/syslog10:55
Corinbob2, where is the config file? (forgive me, i am new to linux, even newer to ubuntu, even newer to command-line, and even newer to proftpd! lol)10:55
cfabob2 ok10:55
etherclearsynapsis: okay cool, your gonna love ubuntu :)10:55
bob2Corin: /etc/protftpd.conf, or so10:55
naliothCorin: we can help you elsewhere10:55
Xyc0bobessutio: I think Myth TV is another open project10:55
bob2szaz: don't think so; the error woul probably make it clear what you're missing, tho10:55
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szazbob2: Hundreds of warnings seemed to be related to cElementTree10:56
synapsis_etherclear: i'm seriously looking forward to it, i've wnated out of windows so badly, but i didn't wanna run into all sorts of problems with linux and not know the first thing to do.10:56
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bob2szaz: ah, python2.4-celementree then10:56
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bob2the bane of bzr10:56
szazbob2: Seemed to suggest syntax errors in the install script10:56
joosepwhy can i only mount /dev/sda1 as root even in nautilus?10:56
Xyc0synapsis_: theres no problems, they are features! *oad to gates10:56
bobessutioXyc0: my main problem seems to be a lack of driver. ie no /dev/video010:56
szazbob2: I do appear to have the latest version of ez_setup.py10:56
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synapsis_Xyc0: hahaha10:57
bob2joosep: be more specific10:57
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synapsis_base system installation error: the debootstrap progra mexited with an error (return value 1). Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for the details.10:57
Xyc0bobessutio: did you install the xorg-driver-fglrx for your system?10:57
synapsis_should i continue?10:57
etherclearsynapsis_: it can be intimidating, but you can find solutions to most problems in channels like this, on the ubuntu wiki, or elsewhere...the community is great10:57
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cfabob2 ok i added the syslog10:57
joosepbob2: when i plug in my usbstick and right-click to mount it in nautilus i get the pmount error. But when i run nautilus as root i can mount it and view the files normally10:58
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Xyc0synapsis_: does that happen on a clean isntall?10:58
synapsis_etherclear: thats the reason why i'm here for just installing it =)10:58
Xyc0install*10:58
synapsis_Xyc0: yes10:58
bob2synapsis_: sure the CD is ok?10:58
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synapsis_it should be, i just burned it10:58
Corinbob2, im not sure which bits to edit...10:58
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bobessutioXyc0: will that do the trick?10:58
bob2joosep: you shouldn't have to right click anything to mount it10:58
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Xyc0synapsis_: yea, either the cd is corrupted or the format didnt go well10:59
Dez[debian] brb10:59
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synapsis_xyc0: should i continue anyways?10:59
etherclearsynapsis_: are you sure you wiped the drive?10:59
bob2Corin: good point10:59
synapsis_etherclear: i selected the "erase entire drive" option10:59
Corin?10:59
bob2Corin: what are you planning to do with this ftp server? just anonymous downloads?10:59
etherclearsynapsis_: mk10:59
joosepbob2: well doubleclicking yields the same results10:59
bobessutioXyc0: gonna try reinstalling driver,brb10:59
Corinbob2, i have set up a lamp server10:59
Xyc0bobessutio: do you know how?10:59
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szazbob2: I'll sort my user group problems and get back - perhaps you can give be some ideas later11:00
bluefrog-10 i'd like to know how to make users use the same background and have same icons on their desktop/taskbar using /etc/skel, who could point me to an howto with example or explain to me how to achieve that, pls?11:00
szazbob2: Cheers11:00
Corini want to give ftp access to people who want sites on my server11:00
Xyc0tell bobessutio binary11:00
Corinfriends11:00
Xyc0I can never get ubotu working11:00
bobessutioXyc0: lol11:00
Xyc0!tell bobessutio binary11:00
synapsis_etherclear & xyc0: should i continue even though i have this error?11:00
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Corin??11:01
bobessutioXyc0: persnickety bots11:01
Xyc0synapsis_: yes, but you should consider getting a clean copy of ubuntu11:01
Corinbob2?11:01
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Xyc0bobessutio: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI11:01
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bobessutioXyc0: cool, thanks11:02
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Xyc0bobessutio: follow directions for Hoary, not warty11:02
bob2Corin: you are aware that ftp is a big security issue, right?11:02
Corinhow?11:02
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bob2bluefrog-10: desktop icons would be done by making /etc/ske/Desktop and putting some .desktop files in it11:02
etherclearsynapsis_: did you do check the disk you are using to make sure it was ok?11:02
cfaCorinuse ftp over ssh11:02
cfaCorin use ftp over ssh11:02
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bob2bluefrog-10: background would be simpler with gconf hacks, I'd think (ie edit the schema?)11:02
bob2Corin: because it sends passwords in plain text11:03
synapsis_etherclear: i believe so... what would i do to check if it was ok?11:03
Corinbob2, but all professional servers use ftp...?11:03
bob2Corin: this sounds like you want users to have seperate dirs they can ftp to11:03
Corinbob2, yes11:03
bob2Corin: only the poorly managed ones, or ones that have to deal with windows users11:03
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Corinto be honest, no one will try hacking it lol11:04
bluefrog-10bob2, i need to have them in /etc/skel cause in fact i want to make /etc/skel /etc/skel1 /etc/skel2 so that depending on groups they are in users will have have diffrent things11:04
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kapputudo wireless cards based on TI chipset have support in Ubuntu?11:04
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adriyelTi Chipsets are fairly non standard11:04
adriyelI'll venture a guess and say no11:04
ubuntublaa?11:04
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kappututhere was no support in Hoary11:05
ubuntublaa? blaa?11:05
dreadnoughtwhere is the firefox directory in my computer?11:05
cfabob2 any info on the things i pasted11:05
Xyc0kapputu: if not, ndiswrapper can use the windows drivers in ubuntu11:05
Corinbob?11:05
tarheelcoxndreadnought: are you looking for something you downloaded?11:05
adriyelXyc0, that too. :|11:05
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folhantu11:05
ubuntuBob who? me?11:05
Corinbob2, ok, but how can i get ftp working?11:05
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Xyc0Corin: apache11:05
dreadnoughttarheelcoxn: no i need to change to that dir11:05
CorinXyc0, ive installed apache....11:06
Corini need ftp too11:06
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Corini need ftp access to the apache folders, ie /var/www/11:06
Xyc0Corin: hehe, get network certified?11:06
dreadnoughttarheelcoxn: it should be the same 4 u too if ur running hoary11:06
etherclearsynapsis_: I use cksum, but you arent on linux yet... um i bet there was an md5 with your disk image11:06
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Corinlol11:06
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Corinbut anyway, please helo11:06
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tarheelcoxndreadnought: whereis firefox11:06
Corin:D11:06
bob2bluefrog-10: that will be hard then11:06
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Corinhelp*11:06
tarheelcoxndreadnought: from a command line11:06
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dreadnoughttarheelcoxn: well mozilla and in nautilus11:07
ubuntuhelp*11:07
cfaCorin start the service in init.d11:07
ubuntuhelp11:07
kapputuyes I have been using it that way for sometime but for some reason it doesn't start during boot11:07
Xyc0Corin: seriously tho, people make money of setting up networks and FTP, you may want to take a class on it11:07
kapputuI have to connect manually and the connection often drops11:07
Xyc0lots of money11:07
dreadnoughttarheelcoxn: i need to put it in to the terminal to run something11:07
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tarheelcoxndreadnought: what is it that you're trying to do?11:07
dreadnoughttarheelcoxn: and i cant find it11:07
bob2Corin: simplest is to just make users using adduser11:07
dreadnoughttarheelcoxn: still tryin to do java r e11:07
bob2Corin: then they can ftp to their homedir11:08
KinkoBlastWhat good music creation software exists for linux. Creation, NOT playback.11:08
Corincfa, i am new to this stuff, i dont understand what u said...11:08
bob2Corin: you'll need to configure apache approriately11:08
bob2KinkoBlast: I'd think you'd need to be more specific about what you mean11:08
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Xyc0Corin: are you trying to share files on a home network?11:08
Corinbob2, any chance you could talk me through it?11:08
tarheelcoxndreadnought: oh... sorry.. can't help you there11:08
tarheelcoxnask the bot about java11:08
CorinXyc0, no, web server11:08
bob2Corin: bear in mind you're in "if you're running a hosting company, you should know what you're doing or hire someone who does" territory11:08
dreadnoughtWell who can....?11:08
Corinbob2, im not running a company lol11:08
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bob2Corin: sorry, have to get to my real job at some point11:08
dreadnoughtthat doesnt work for me11:08
Corinlittle more help bob2?11:09
Corin:)11:09
Xyc0Corin: but you don't think anyone will mess with it?!  Dont be nieve11:09
Xyc0thanks for the help bob2!11:09
KinkoBlastbob2: Like Finale. Only for GNU/Linux. Pref. GTK+ w/o GNOME dependincies, but that's not all that important.11:09
Corin1: how do i add users11:09
bob2Xyc0: np.11:09
Xyc0Tell bob1 i said hi11:09
dreadnoughtcan someone tell me where in nautilus is mozilla located?11:09
Corin2: how do i configure apache?11:09
bob2KinkoBlast: I don't know what finale is11:09
Xyc0and Bob011:09
bob2Corin: adduser11:09
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smallhello11:10
bob2Corin: you'll be making a new entry in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ for each website, based on the default template11:10
KinkoBlastBob2: It's a music editor with an interface that looks like sheet music.11:10
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small?11:10
bob2KinkoBlast: ah, perhaps lilypond4 will suit you11:10
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dreadnoughtuse fruity loops its much better11:10
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dreadnoughtmuch much!11:11
Corinbob2, where do i do adduser?11:11
phillambrechtsI have an nvidia ac97 coundcard, how can I get it to play more than one sound using the Last.fm player11:11
cfaCorin r u new to Linux, if so u should get a book for new users. It will help in all linux distros.11:11
Dez[debian] how do i mount my Windows XP Partition so i can get my Music from Windows11:11
Dez[debian] ?11:11
Xyc0dreadnought: and Project One is better the fruity loops, but we arnt willing to spend 500 on it11:11
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dreadnoughtor acid pro11:11
fredy2hola11:11
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Xyc0Dez[debian] : google how to mount ntfs11:11
dreadnoughtu can geta cheap 150 usd one11:11
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bob2Corin: in the terminal...11:12
lightbrightsome say ubuntu is great, but they rushed breezy and it has a ton of problems!  What kind of problems?11:12
cfaCorin it will explain how to add users and start services like FTPd and HTTPd11:12
Xyc0Dez[debian] : you do it trough /etc/fstab for automaticaly mounting11:12
erenis there a way to control my cpu fan speed in ubuntu?11:12
Xyc0Dez[debian] : and writablilty with NTFS is rather unstable, so it is read only11:12
dreadnoughtwell can any one tell me where mozilla is located in nautilus?11:12
Duelushow do I add screen resolutions bigger then 1024 by 786?11:12
Dez[debian] i just want to Read it Xyc011:12
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Dez[debian] when i click on HDA1 it tells me i dont have permission11:12
cfabob2 should i uncomment anything in the source.list and what about the syslog11:12
lightbrightdoes breezy have a lot of problems?11:12
Corinbob2, adduser in terminal created a new linux user...?11:13
ElsanAny idea when the OpenOffice.org 2.0 will be available in the repositories&?11:13
bob2cfa: that error indicates you didn't give it the right path for the inf file11:13
bob2!+info openoffice.org2 dapper11:13
ubotuUpdating ubuntu files... please wait.11:13
ubotuopenoffice.org2: (OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0), section editors, is optional. Version: 1.9.129-0.1ubuntu4 (dapper), Packaged size: 73 kB, Installed size: 192 kB11:13
bob2cfa: yes11:13
cfabob2 ok i will try agian11:13
lightbrightElsan: why you want office 2?11:13
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lightbrightElsan: what can office 2 do for you that the older cant?11:13
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dreadnoughtwell can any one tell me where mozilla is located in nautilus?11:13
Elsanlightbright: Just curious, I got OO.org on my Windows and I don't see any difference, I'm just curious.11:14
Xyc0Dez[debian] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions11:14
bob2dreadnought: you mean "Can someone tell me where on the filesystem the mozilla executable is?"?11:14
kapputudreadnought, I have been trying to find that out too11:14
Dez[debian] xyc0 its already mounted11:14
bob2dreadnought: /usr/bin/mozilla, but it's just ashell script11:14
phillambrechtsOk, In a bash script how can I kill esd while a program i specify is running and launch it after that program is closed?11:14
erenwhere is the best place for support online?  (the wiki?)11:14
Xyc0Dez[debian] : oh then you need to change the permissions11:14
dreadnoughti just need the path thanks11:14
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dreadnoughtil try that11:14
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cfabob2 what should i uncomment, sorry, i am new to debian and unbuntu, RH and FreeBSD is what i know11:14
lightbrightElsan: what?11:14
bob2phillambrechts: pkill esd ; blah ; esd -nobeeps&11:14
bob2cfa: I didn't say to uncomment anything11:14
Xyc0Dez[debian] : that can be done by editing /etc/fstab, but read about it before you do11:14
bob2cfa: the log says it couldn't find the .inf file11:14
cfabob2 ok11:14
phillambrechtsbob2, thanks a lot, i'll try it11:15
Dez[debian] ok thanks xyc011:15
bob2cfa: I'm really pretty sure following the howto I gave you would get it working...11:15
Elsanlightbright: I was just curious to know11:15
treefrogbob2:  is resolvconf necessary for a wireless card to install correctly and connect to a router? Im trying to figure out if that is my reason for not having a mac add when doing iwconfg11:15
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lightbrightElsan: know what?11:15
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cfabob2 ok11:15
Elsanlightbright: If it was gonna be available in the repositories11:15
synapsis_etherclear & xyc0: update, everythings failing.11:15
bob2treefrog: no11:15
bob2treefrog: it's a pain in the arse11:15
synapsis_everything has failed.11:16
Xyc0synapsis_: what do you mean?11:16
Xyc0synapsis_: when you boot?11:16
synapsis_all sorts of errors11:16
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urbanfox|awayhrm, 32 MB is low enough to qualify as a "low memory mode" install?11:16
dreadnoughtit says "Go to the plugins sub-directory under the Mozilla installation directory11:16
dreadnoughtcd <Mozilla installation directory>/plugins"\11:16
synapsis_nah i have yet to even fully install it11:16
angvphiya, anyone have been configured a webcam in linux?11:16
treefrogbob2: humm ya thought about asking before i try to install... thanks.. any idea where I should be looking??11:16
dreadnoughtwhat goes in the <>'s11:16
synapsis_in the midst of the installation i've encountered like 5 errors already11:17
synapsis_this really bums me out11:17
Xyc0synapsis_: wha, what part of installation?11:17
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synapsis_"install the base system" or ""copy remaining packages to hard disk"11:17
synapsis_or=and11:17
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jnymoanybody know of where to get info on installing a windows nic card on ubuntu?11:18
bob2treefrog: I don't know where you're stuck11:18
bob2urbanfox|away: yes, sadly11:18
dreadnoughtubotu: tell synapsis about enter11:18
bob2urbanfox|away: it may not work at all, breezy had regressions wrt lowmem installs, dunno if they were completely fixed11:18
dreadnoughtso i take no one knows how to help me then?11:19
bob2dreadnought: I don't thin kyou've asked a coherent answerable question yet11:19
Corinbob2?11:19
bob2dreadnought: what are yo utrying to do?11:19
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jnymo~ndiswrapper11:19
synapsis_ubotu: tell synapsis_ about enter11:20
dreadnoughtbob2: figure out where the mozilla stuff is in nautilus11:20
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Corinbob2, how can i add a user to proftpd?11:20
treefrogjnymo:  ~ndiswrapper indeed.11:20
bob2Corin: ?11:20
bob2dreadnought: no, that's not your goal11:20
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bob2dreadnought: what is your endgoal?11:20
bob2Corin: sudo adduser blah11:20
phillambrechtsbob2, how can i tell if esd is running or not?11:21
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Corinbob2, that adds a user to the computer, not the ftp...11:21
dreadnoughtbob2: to install and use jre11:21
jnymoubotu: tell me about ndiswrapper11:21
dreadnoughtlike ive been tryin for weeks now11:21
bob2Corin: incorrect11:21
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bob2phillambrechts: 'pidof esd'11:21
bob2dreadnought: so say that11:21
Corinthen ok, ive added a user...11:21
dreadnoughtbob2: so do you know?11:21
bob2dreadnought: where did you mention which step of wiki.ubuntu.com/Java doesn't work?11:21
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phillambrechtsbob2, it returned 574, does that mean its running"11:22
synapsis_welll all the ubuntu files are all corrupt11:22
synapsis_and i'm gettin upset.11:22
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JanbananCan someone help me with a mount problem?11:22
bob2phillambrechts: yes11:22
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bob2Janbanan: you need to be a lot more specific11:22
bob2synapsis_: when installing?11:22
Corinbob2, after adding user, how can i give that user access to /var/www/folder1/ ?11:22
Janbananone sec11:22
phillambrechtsbob2, why am I not getting sound from application launches, etc?11:22
bob2Corin: change their homedirectory11:22
Xyc0Janbanan: dont ask to ask dude, just shoot away11:22
Corinhow?11:23
synapsis_bobslaede: yep, i burned the iso, put it into the drive, was following along, and it says that the cd's basically corrupt because none of the files are working11:23
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bob2Corin: I guess editing /etc/passwd, very very carefully11:23
synapsis_bob2 sorry11:23
dreadnoughtbob2 the wiki doesnt work for me for some reason i do it all the way and it just doesnt work11:23
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bob2synapsis_: did you check if the cd was corrupt?11:23
bob2dreadnought: that's ot a useful description of the problem11:23
synapsis_bob2 how can i cehck11:24
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bob2synapsis_: boot into expert mode, run 'verify cd' from the menu11:24
Corinbob2, at the moment the user i created says this:11:24
Xyc0wow this is way to confusing for my lazy mind, im installing ubuntu and windows simultanioulsy11:24
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jals-is apt ubuntu's version of fedora's yum11:24
jals-?11:24
dragoonzCan someone help me get my laptop's NIC card working?11:24
synapsis_bob2: i have nothing to boot to, thats the problem.11:24
Corinsam:x:1001:1001:Sam,,,:/home/sam:/bin/bash11:24
Corin?11:24
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jals-in fact, could someone point me to a ubuntu faq type thing to get started?11:25
Xyc0jals-: um.... yes.... sorta11:25
dreadnoughtok im at http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#enable and im all the way down to enable and configure could u look at it11:25
Janbananhehe found the problem with the sata disk11:25
Xyc0jals-: yea, ubuntu.com has a link for it11:25
Dez[debian] im enjoying ubuntu so far :)11:25
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jals-alrighty, thanks11:25
Xyc0jals-: wiki.ubuntu.com has a few new user pages too11:25
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Corinbob2?11:25
Xyc0Corin: give him some time11:25
bob2Corin: ?11:25
dreadnoughtbe patient hes help in alot of people11:26
bob2synapsis_: you can't boot the install cd?11:26
Corindo i change "/home/sam" to "/var/www/"?11:26
Corinit says:11:26
Corinsam:x:1001:1001:Sam,,,:/home/sam:/bin/bash11:26
bob2jals-: yum is more or less a clone of apt11:26
bob2Corin: yes11:26
bob2Corin: except to /var/www/whatever/11:26
synapsis_bob2: i can boot it, however i'm left iwt hthe option "type server, or press enter"11:26
Corinok11:26
bob2synapsis_: type expert11:26
dreadnoughtu see it now bob2?11:26
Xyc0jals-: yumx is a straight clone of synaptic11:26
bob2dreadnought: so11:26
Corinok, bob2, done that11:26
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dreadnoughtwhat?11:26
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Dez[debian] every time i go to Play a Mp3 file i get there were no decorders found to hadnle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins11:27
bob2dreadnought: I'm pretty sure I told you to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java11:27
Corinnow, how can that user connect to /var/www/sam/ using ftp?11:27
bob2dreadnought: are you not using i386?11:27
cfabob2 it is installed the .inf file but nothing, i did ndiswrapper -l and got this "net5211 invalid driver!", this was the driver i got from my windows partition11:27
bob2Corin: yes11:27
bob2Dez[debian] : wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:27
Avenhow do I specify a compiler when compiling?11:27
bob2cfa: is it the .inf file11:27
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Corinbob2, it was "how", not "can" :P11:27
dreadnoughti cant just do it at javas site? bob211:28
bob2Aven: what are you trying to do?11:28
Xyc0synapsis_: yea, what kind of processor are you using?11:28
bob2dreadnought: this is why you have been stuck for weeks11:28
Avencompile11:28
Avena software11:28
bob2Corin: they connect using an ftp client11:28
bob2Aven: and the software is...11:28
Corinok11:28
Avenit uses 'gcc 4' but I want to point it to gcc 311:28
synapsis_xyc0: intel p4?11:28
Avenmagick irc services11:28
dreadnoughtbob2: it just wont work and noone knows whats wrong with it11:28
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Xyc0synapsis_: what architect of ubuntu did you download to install? i386, x86_64?11:29
synapsis_i386 i believe11:29
AvenI remember it being 'export=' or something11:29
bob2dreadnought: holy god11:29
Avenanyone know?11:29
cfabob2 i believe so i will restart in win and check, thanx for help, bbl11:29
synapsis_integrety test failed11:29
bob2Aven: export CC=gcc-3.4, may work11:29
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bob2Aven: it's software-specific, tho, which is why you need to mention exactly what you're trying to do in your initial questions11:30
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Dez[debian] !universe11:30
ubotuit has been said that repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list11:30
bob2dreadnought: so, stop talking11:30
bob2dreadnought: go follow exactly what the page I pointed you at said11:30
bob2dreadnought: assuming you are using an i386 cpu, which you did not yet confirm11:30
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Xyc0bob2: he said p411:30
synapsis_xyc0: yeah its i386.11:30
Corinbob2, it wont let me connect from a different pc...11:30
_Twitchhey guys, im having a problem with my hoary hedgehog installation. Gnome will fire up, and it will either freeze at the login screen or right after when the splash screen displays. Anyone have any ideas as to what might me wrong? I have the i386 installation.11:30
Avenbob2: when I run the 'make' command, it uses gcc 411:30
Corinoh wait, it will11:30
Corin:D11:30
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Corinbut, bob2, it allows him access to the entire pc...11:31
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dreadnoughtbob2: how am i supposed to know!11:31
Avenah, works now :)11:31
synapsis_integrety test failed - "the .pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-image-2.6.12-9-386_2.6.12-9.23_i386.deb file failed the MD5 checksum verification. Your CD-ROM or this file may have been corrupted"11:31
synapsis_what now11:31
Dez[debian] !howtoaddmultiverse11:32
ubotuDez[debian] : I don't know, could you explain it?11:32
gnomefreak_Twitch, one word breezy :)11:32
dreadnoughtbob2 no i need JRE11:32
dreadnoughtnot JDK11:32
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_TwitchLOL11:32
_Twitchi have no way of getting breezy any time soon. :(11:32
Xyc0synapsis_: download ubuntu i386 install for 5.10 from ubuntu.com11:32
synapsis_xyc0: thats the one i downloaded.11:32
dragoonzCan someone help me get my laptop's NIC card working?11:32
bob2Xyc0: ah11:32
bob2dreadnought: dude, stop11:32
Xyc0Dez[debian] : look for repository on wiki.ubuntu.com11:32
bob2dreadnought: be quiet11:33
bob2dreadnought: then read that page again11:33
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Corinbob2?11:33
bob2Aven: yes, it's software specific11:33
bob2Aven: you may need to hack the Makefile11:33
Xyc0synapsis_: yea, well that download is corrupted11:33
dreadnoughtbob2: unfortunatly for u i need JRE11:33
bob2Aven: simplest would be talking to the author11:33
bob2dreadnought: stop talking11:33
gnomefreak_Twitch, how much ram do you have?11:33
bob2dreadnought: 'In BreezyBadger, Java is also available as the Blackdown j2re1.4 and Blackdown j2se1.4 packages in the multiverse repository.'11:33
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_Twitchgnomefreak: a gig.11:33
synapsis_xyc0: well whats to be done then if the offical site offers a corrupt copy?11:33
HrdwrBoBdreadnought: unfortunately for you, you can't type11:33
gnomefreaksynapsis_, the error is froma bad download or bad burn11:33
dreadnoughtthanks11:34
Xyc0synapsis_: the download is corrupted, it probubly just cut off partway through11:34
gnomefreak_Twitch, im not sure than sorry :(11:34
bob2Corin: ?11:34
bob2Corin: yes11:34
_Twitchthanks, gnomefreak :)11:34
dreadnoughtI HAVE HOARY!!! god11:34
JanbananI have a problem to restart X-server. When i press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace it turns off but my screen also turnes off so I'm not able to see anything11:34
bob2Corin: if you don't want them accessing things in other people's homedirs, change the permissions11:34
Corinok...11:34
Corinhow?11:34
gnomefreak_Twitch, yw11:34
Corinat the moment, he can access everything11:34
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synapsis_xyc0: is there a way i can verify what i've downloaded, rather than downloading again, burning another iso to cd, and then getting caught in the same cycle?11:35
bob2Corin: look at the permissions of the other homedirs in /var/www/11:35
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bob2Corin: bear in mind ftp is inherently asking for trouble11:35
lightbrightonce a person does a fresh install of breezy, do they update it and upgrade same as Debian?  apt-get update and apt-get upgrade ?11:35
bob2dreadnought: bah11:35
gnomefreaksynapsis_, what are you using now for an os?11:35
bob2lightbright: yes11:35
Xyc0synapsis_: you said the MP5 test failed, that verifyed that your download is corrupted11:35
synapsis_Xyc0: k, thanks =)11:36
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lightbrightonce a person does a fresh install of breezy, what other steps should they do besides  apt-get update and apt-get upgrade ?11:36
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Xyc0synapsis_: sorry, not sure what you were asking11:36
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dreadnoughtbah 4 wat11:36
lightbrightbob2: ?11:36
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bob2lightbright: ?11:36
gnomefreakadd universe repo11:36
lightbrightbob2: once a person does a fresh install of breezy, what other steps should they do besides  apt-get update and apt-get upgrade ?11:36
Corinand is it possible to log into root with ftp?11:36
silversurferhey bob11:36
gnomefreaksynapsis_,  what OS are you using?11:36
silversurfersince I tryed to open a new x server11:36
JanbananIs it possible to run winamp in ubuntu?11:36
bob2lightbright: none.11:36
synapsis_gnomefreak: none now11:36
silversurferI can't log anymore11:37
szazCan anyone explain how to boot into recovery mode? GRUB doesn't normally appear when I reboot11:37
bob2Corin: if you do that, I will beat you11:37
silversurferwith entrance11:37
bob2Corin: (no)11:37
Xyc0lightbright: that should be good untill you want to install more programs then what ubuntu comes with11:37
bob2Janbanan: probably under wine, but why bother11:37
synapsis_what a waste11:37
gnomefreaksynapsis_,  define none11:37
lightbrightbob2: ok thanks. And does breezy come on 1 CD?11:37
Corinlol11:37
dreadnoughtomg  bob2 just can u please tell me where mozilla is located!11:37
bob2szaz: hit escape over and over11:37
Dez[debian] so i cant play mp3 files unless i pay .75c?11:37
lightbrightXyc0: ok11:37
bob2lightbright: yes11:37
bob2dreadnought: holy god11:37
gnomefreaklightbright, yes 1 cd11:37
synapsis_gnomefreak: none = error loading operating system11:37
bob2dreadnought: /usr/lib/mozilla/11:37
szazbob2: at boot?11:37
dreadnoughtbob2 i no11:37
gnomefreaksynapsis_,  how are you online?11:37
Dez[debian] nvm lol.11:37
Corinok, then, in command-line, how can i change permissions so that user "sam" can only access /var/www/sam/ ?11:37
synapsis_gnomefreak: i'm using another comp11:37
dreadnoughtbob2 now was that so hard?11:37
gnomefreakwhat os is on it?11:38
szazbob2: I booted from the liveCD but I can't find /etc/groups to edit11:38
bob2szaz: yes, immediately after the bios11:38
lightbrightis breezy good to give to friends who have only ever used ms windows?  will they be able to install breezy by themselves and get conntected to internet using modem etc ?11:38
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szazbob2: cheers again!11:38
Xyc0lightbright: you also might want to install your video card drivers if you have ATI or nVidia11:38
bob2Corin: sudo chmod go= /var/www/sam/11:38
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gnomefreaklightbright, cant tell you thaqt dont know how pc litterate they are11:38
lightbrightXyc0: how do you install drivers for ATI or nVidia?11:38
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ReleaseXls11:38
ReleaseXls11:38
lightbrightgnomefreak: lets say average user11:38
djk_lightbright: if they can think and read, they should succeed.11:38
bob2Corin: I'm not going to help you anymore, sorry; I don't have time to help you do this securely.11:38
Xyc0lightbright: yes, i dout youd hear otherwise here tho11:38
Corini dont need it very secure bob11:38
Corinbob2, ok, and then11:39
Corinit then says11:39
Corin>11:39
synapsis_thanks to everyone who helped. you'll see me back in a few hours, hopefully next time it won't be a corrupted file. cuz if it is, i won't have anything nice to say11:39
Xyc0lightbright: what video card are you using, either one the how to can be found at wiki.ubuntu.com11:39
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gnomefreaklightbright, it pretty much walks you threw the install depending on if that is the only hard drive and that is gonna be only operating system11:39
lightbrightdpes breezy contain the latest security pathes etc, safe to use for internet banking etc?  Latest firefox etc?11:39
Fred|Fr3dhey... i keep getting "No sensors found" from lm-sensors... i followed the quickstart guide and did the detect thing... any ideas?11:39
evertonHi, I have re-installed Ubuntu to upgrade to breezy. I copied my /home to a partition hda7 e installed the system on hda9. How do I mount the old /home partition?11:39
Xyc0synapsis_: dont quit, no mater what you do11:39
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gnomefreakguess he really didnt wanna know how to tell b4 burning it if its bad :(11:40
dragoonzhow do I use "make" if it says command is not found11:40
evertone -> and *11:40
Corinbob2, very quickly please11:40
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weob/usr/bin/wine: could not locate Wine source tree11:40
weob - anyone know what that means?11:40
synapsis_Xyc0: just a pain11:40
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lightbrightXyc0: does breezy contain the latest security pathes etc, safe to use for internet banking etc?  Latest firefox etc?11:40
bob2dragoonz: install it...11:40
dragoonzuh?11:40
bob2weob: why did you install wine from source?11:40
weobyest latest firefox11:40
bob2dragoonz: install build-essential11:40
weobbecause its 0.911:40
bob2lightbright: yes...11:40
lightbrightbob2: do you use Debian or Unbuntu?11:40
bob2weob: that's no reason to install it to /usr/11:40
Xyc0lightbright: yes, when updates come out online, you will be notified and asked if you want to install them11:40
veloctlightbright: it contains 1.0.711:40
bob2lightbright: both11:40
alphacan someone send me a multiverse repository server or a list of them11:40
gnomefreaklightbright,  i cant tell you about the security if the banking website but there are many firewalls for linux11:40
cameronlightbright: i feel that its safer than MS11:40
Corinbob2, please?11:41
bob2lightbright: ubuntu has a similar security system to debian11:41
bob2alpha: read your /etc/apt/sources.list11:41
weobthen where should it be?11:41
bob2lightbright: ie fixes for security issues get backported to the stable release11:41
bob2weob: /usr/local/wine/11:41
weobok11:41
holycowi not googling much info on qt7 support on linux ... anyone know what the score on this currently?11:41
lightbrightXyc0: so if you type apt-get update each day, you will make sure its got the latest updates etc?11:41
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gnomefreak21-5 away winning11:42
veloctholycow: you mean quicktime?11:42
gnomefreak:)11:42
bob2holycow: mplayer11:42
Dez[debian] is Wine installed by default?11:42
holycowno11:42
bob2holycow: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:42
bob2Dez[debian] : no11:42
gnomefreakno Dez[debian] 11:42
holycowi meant quicktime 711:42
holycowas in not quicktime 611:42
lightbrightgnomefreak: does breezy come with a firewall such as firestarter?11:42
bob2lightbright: no11:42
holycowas in quicktime 7 support11:42
holycow>_>11:42
gnomefreakyes in synaptic11:42
Xyc0lightbright: no, there is an applet in gnome that will do it for you11:42
weobine: cannot determine executable type for L"H:\\arial32.exe" now i got this11:42
lightbrightXyc0:  ok11:42
holycowbob2, that is a #debian answer, your slipping back to your old wasy friend11:42
gnomefreakor apt-get install firestarter11:43
holycow:)11:43
bob2weob: why would you run a font file?11:43
lightbrightcool thanks :)11:43
Corinbob2? i did sudo chmod go= /var/www/sam/11:43
bob2holycow: ?11:43
gnomefreakyw11:43
Xyc0np11:43
Corinit now says ">" on a new line...?11:43
weobbecause that's a part of the wine tools install that doesnt work11:43
bob2lightbright: ubuntu, like sarge, has no listening network services by default11:43
holycowso, speaking of quicktime 7 anyone know if there is any work being done on that, who might be working on that, etc?11:43
bob2holycow: mplayer can play it.11:43
holycowqt7?11:43
holycowweird11:43
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weobqt7 dont work11:43
alphabob2: i need to add one to it11:43
weobcuz its bundled with itunes11:43
weoband itunes doesnt install right now11:43
holycowi will check it, but that doesn't sound right11:43
shad0w1eis there any way to get KDE to recognize the fact that I'm using a xinerama display, instead of one large screen ??11:43
bob2shad0w1e: perhaps #debian-kde11:44
holycowweob, thankfully no it doesn't install11:44
holycowEVER11:44
shad0w1ebecause my windows keep popping up halfway on each screen11:44
weoblol11:44
alphabob2: for some reason the default ones in synaptic wont work11:44
bob2alpha: you need to read it11:44
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shad0w1ebob2, thanks11:44
Corinbob2, please!11:44
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bob2synapsis_: please turn that off11:45
gnomefreaki never learned how to turn them on :)11:45
alphabob2, it doesn't have a list that i can see just a list of ones put in from install11:45
gnomefreaklol11:45
laxisehi everyone. i got a question. i installed ubuntu breezy badger on my pc and after the first boot up i get only some weird screen built by many stripes but no login?! i can boot up into text mode but  Xwindows doesnt work. How to fix that?11:45
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alphabob2, the server for multivers seems to be down11:46
bob2alpha: please read it, it explains preciesly how to enable multiverse11:46
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gnomefreaklaxise, re configure your x windows file11:46
omegWooh11:46
bob2alpha: no, the server for multiverse is the as the server for evetyhing tlse11:46
holycowno shit, mplayer can do qt711:46
holycowwow11:46
holycowthx bob2 :)11:46
bob2please don't be a smartarse when I'm right ;)11:46
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alphabob2, i get a 404 error when i enable it11:46
omegI finally contributed to the open source community today by fully translating gnome-volume-manager of dapper to Dutch completely.11:46
Dez[debian] anyone know a good place for X-Chat plugins11:47
bob2alpha: then show us your /etc/apt/sources.list in #flood11:47
bob2omeg: yay!11:47
dseomnwhen I try to reply to an html mailin evolution, the input is reversed (i.e. when I type "asdf" I see "fdsa"). I have evo set to always use plain text in outgoing mail11:47
veloctDez: xchat's home page11:47
laxisegnomefreak  im not really advanced in that way. how to reconfigure my x windows file?11:47
dseomnI'm using dapper btw11:47
omegThat is, if they're accepted. But I'm well-known with my language, so they probably will. Hmm, too bad there's no section in which I can drop comments about (common) mistakes they made, just so they won't see the correct versions as faulty ones.11:47
gnomefreakbob2, whats the xorg config command11:47
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Xyc0omeg: you dutch?11:48
dseomngnomefreak: dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg11:48
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bob2gnomefreak: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8611:48
gnomefreakthere you go laxise11:48
alphabob2, done11:48
bob2omeg: is there a dutch translation team? or a netherlands loco team?11:48
gnomefreakty guys11:48
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dseomnbob2: xorg, not xfree8611:48
laxiseok11:49
laxisethx gnomefreak11:49
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kbrooksdseomn: depends11:50
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kbrooksdseomn: warty uses xfree8611:50
alphabob2, did you see my paste into flood11:50
gnomefreakall depends on the moniter and the vc what one you are using11:50
dseomnkbrooks: people still use warty? wow11:50
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Fredi keep getting "No sensors found" from lm-sensors... i followed the quickstart guide and did the detect thing... and it did find sensors in that, and i have added the lines to /etc/modules, and they seem to be loaded... any ideas?11:50
kbrooksdseomn: it's old, i know. :)11:50
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gnomefreaki wanna say its the age of the hardware that makes the difference between xfree and xorg11:50
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coreyhey11:51
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coreyhello11:51
dseomnhi11:51
coreywut is this11:51
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lightbrightonce breezy is installed, whats procedure to get the internet working with a modem?11:51
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gnomefreakwhat*11:51
coreyis this like a chat11:51
szazbob2: Thanks - recovery mode solved my first problem11:52
gnomefreakcable dsl or dial up?11:52
coreyi saw this in my menu11:52
dseomncorey: yes, for support with ubuntu11:52
dreadnoughthow do you do this im too dumb to di it                 # Go to the plugins sub-directory under the Mozilla installation directory11:52
dreadnoughtcd <Mozilla installation directory>/plugins11:52
dreadnought# In the current directory, create a symbolic link to the JRE ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so file Type:11:52
dreadnoughtln -s <JRE installation directory>/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so11:52
omegbob2 omeg: is there a dutch translation team? or a netherlands loco team? <-- I'm not sure. I just checked out a page where I could translate and then went past all the boxes.11:52
NoobieDoobieDoHi corey , this is Internet Relay Chat.11:52
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gnomefreakdreadnought,  dont paste in here11:52
lightbrightXyc0 lightbright: no, there is an applet in gnome that will do it for you <--- does this listen by itself all the time?11:52
coreywhat do i do with it11:52
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Kovecsesin ubuntu my computers "thinking" light stays on always? is there a w11:52
omegAnd yes, I'm Dutch. I don't know anybody who's well-learnt in Dutch without being Dutch himself, actually. It's not a very popular language to learn.11:52
szazbob2: When you installed TurboGears, did you install anything else other than python2.4-dev?11:52
Kovecsesto fix11:52
dreadnoughtok i wont if i get told how to do it11:52
dseomncorey: ask for ubuntu-related help if you need it11:52
Xyc0lightbright: yea, you should have seen it when you first booted ubuntu11:52
gnomefreakpasting in here will not get you an answer11:52
lightbrightXyc0: what about KDE?11:52
lightbrightXyc0: does breezy come with KDE?11:53
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dreadnoughthow do u now i pasted11:53
gnomefreaklightbright, gnome11:53
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Kovecseslightbright, gnome.... but kde isnt hard to add11:53
gnomefreaktype /topic and read it11:53
lightbrightgnomefreak: you telling me there is no KDE?11:53
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Xyc0Xyc0: it usualy comew with gnome, but you can put KDE on if youd like11:53
veloctlightbright: just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:53
lightbrightKovecses: ok11:53
blankhey guys, I'm so glad to be able to come back :)11:53
dreadnoughtcan some one help me with it11:53
lightbrightveloct: ok11:53
bob2dseomn: duh me, right11:53
bob2alpha: ok11:53
Kovecseslightbright, or you could download kubuntu wich has kde by default11:53
Xyc0lightbright: I like gnome tho, very straight forward11:53
bob2szaz: I don't recall11:53
bob2szaz: what error do you get?11:54
lightbrightXyc0: ok11:54
tenzin_hi, what is the best "Font-installer" for GNOME?11:54
lightbrightKovecses: ok11:54
gnomefreakthere is kde but default is gnome11:54
szazbob2: The install procedure just worked?11:54
szazbob2: oh... hang on11:54
bob2alpha: add the word multiverse to the end of the 'deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe' line11:54
gnomefreakdreadnought, paste it in pastebin and give us the link11:54
bob2tenzin_: dragging them to the fonts:/// url in nautilus11:54
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Kovecsesin ubuntu my computers "thinking" light stays on always? is there a way to fix?11:54
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tenzin_bob2: hmm...I test this11:55
bob2Kovecses: thinking = hard disk activity?11:55
Kovecsesbob2, yes11:55
dseomnKovecses: how much ram do you have?11:55
gnomefreakthe "thinking light" as you put it is the hard drive spinning if im thinking of the same light11:55
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Kovecsesdseomn, pleny... 2 gigs ..... it is a software issue11:56
gnomefreakKovecses, are you sure?11:56
gnomefreaksoftware i mean11:56
Kovecsesgnomefreak, positive11:56
Kovecsesi dual boot multiple distros11:56
Kovecsesubuntu is the only one that does it11:56
gnomefreakdual boot =211:57
dseomnKovecses: use Applications > System Tools > Ubuntu Device Database and put the problem in the comments11:57
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Xyc0I have two boots, they are black and they come untied alot11:57
Kovecsesand i read some forums and others have the same problem11:57
Kovecsesgnomefreak, yes dual boot = 211:57
misfit_toyXyc0, your boots have laces? in Texas we have no laces on our boots. ;p11:57
Kovecsesgnomefreak, dont know why i said that11:57
Kovecsesgnomefreak, i triple boot to be correct11:58
alphabob2, it still wont work11:58
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Xyc0misfit_toy: yup, they are the rompumstompum boots11:58
bob2alpha: you need to ru nthat command everytime you edit that file11:58
eternale1in the wiki for BreezyUpgradeNotes , it says to change your repositories to look for Breezy thru the Synaptic Package Manager , it looks like its showing a file but which file is it to edit or thru what menu in the manager?11:58
misfit_toyXyc0, heh11:58
gnomefreakKovecses, how many of the 3 are linux?11:58
bob2eternale1: the repositories menu option11:58
Kovecsesgnomefreak, 211:58
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pavelichu fucking hate the world man, got my stereo stolen today and i dont know how to run C++ source code in any program in linux11:59
szazbob2: I get hundreds of lines of warnings and errors - I've pasted the last sreen from the terminal in flood11:59
dreadnoughtis some o11:59
pavelichi meant i hate the world11:59
eternale1bob2:  thru +Add?11:59
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gnomefreakpavelich,  please no cursing this is a family chat11:59
misfit_toypavelich, it's ok, I hate the world too11:59
Xyc0Kovecses: do you hear your harddrive straining?  Is it hurting something?11:59
dreadnoughtis someone willingf to help me now11:59
Kovecsespavelich, c++.... are you trying to11:59
omegHmm...11:59
bob2dreadnought: again, you need to give details11:59
switchcatGreetings, is anybody here familiar with the ubuntu Net Install options?11:59
KovecsesXyc0, no the hard disk is silent11:59
omegNot having MP3 support is okay, but my browser window freezing upon encountering an embedded MP3 file, that's not so good.11:59
alphabob2, thanks11:59
gnomefreakC++ i find alot like C11:59
omegJust a temporary freeze, but still.11:59
Xyc0Kovecses: i would worry about it then12:00
bob2omeg: please do report it12:00
pavelichkovecses: i have eclipse and anjuta and i dont know how to work either12:00
urbanfox|awayblech, doing a server install, and the "Starting up the partitioner" step hung at 55%12:00

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