[12:00] <mmiikkee12> i like ubuntu already - didn't have to reboot after updates ;)
[12:00] <Cran1988> ?
[12:00] <pjott> funkyHat, I have: "Systemverkty" (English: Systemtools)
[12:00] <Cran1988> ?
[12:00] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  one's a laser printer
[12:00] <gnomefreak> mmiikkee12,  im not sure any linux has to reboot after updates unless its kernel or something like that
[12:00] <bluefoxicy> the one I need
[12:01] <mmiikkee12>  btrue, but this is the first distro i've ever actually updated...
[12:01] <Gedionsen> Can't find a way to add a custom app to a shortcut...
[12:01] <mmiikkee12> *true
[12:01] <Cran1988> ?
[12:01] <Siph0n> do ppl here use subversion? and if so what version?
[12:01] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/Diagram2.png
[12:02] <gnomefreak> ok bluefoxicy lets try this in a network there is a base computer and than you have extra computers. the one with the printer is that a base pc or an extra?
[12:02] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  check the idagram
[12:02] <bluefoxicy> *diagram
[12:02] <wolverian> hmm, can't find relevant help in the eclipse docs
[12:02] <bluefoxicy> (that funky lightening thing is a serial link, since it's USB)
[12:02] <blueblood> How do I search for dirs?
[12:02] <wolverian> I also can't just uninstall gcj, since eclipse-base depends on it
[12:02] <dooglus> blueblood: "locate"
[12:03] <wolverian> that seems to indicate that ubuntu _really_ wants me to use gcj instead of sun's vm :)
[12:03] <dooglus> blueblood: or "find / -type d -name dirname"
[12:03] <bluefoxicy> blueblood: places->search for files
[12:03] <Gedionsen> Can't find a way to add a custom app to a shortcut... Does anyone know?
[12:03] <pjott> funkyHat, Found it ;)
[12:03] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  you got it now?
[12:03] <blueblood> dooglus, bluefoxicy, thanks
[12:04] <_jason> Gedionsen, you want to add a launcher to a custom app?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, your modem has to be attached to one of the pcs or a 3rd pc your diagram soesnt show that
[12:04] <gnomefreak> doesnt*
[12:04] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  my cable modem is attached to a router.
[12:04] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  start at the cloud that says "internet" and move down slowly.
[12:04] <calamari> hi
[12:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> ahh man!  i just edited clearlooks to make it flat and have zero saturation in its greys, and it looks sweeeet.
[12:05] <Gedionsen> _jason Already have that, but i don't know how to assign a shortcut like Ctrl+Alt+?
[12:05] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  here's a hint:  the linksys wrt54g is physically stationed inside my house.
[12:05] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, i understand that but you have a ehternet cord from pc-router and modem to router right?
[12:05] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  yes.  That's what a router is for.
[12:06] <gnomefreak> yes now what port is the modem plugged in?
[12:06] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  Port 1 on the router.  Icegate is plugged into port 2 on the router; icebox is plugged into port 3.
[12:06] <Siph0n> can neone tell me if there is a help file for what each file color means? like when i type ls and some are light blue and other files or dark blue
[12:06] <_jason> ubotu, tell Gedionsen about shortcut
[12:07] <gnomefreak> ok bluefoxicy  either way try the routers ip it should work
[12:07] <cafuego_> Siph0n: That's user-configurable, so no real meaning.
[12:07] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  explain exactly why the router's ip should work?  The router isn't broadcasting printing packets, and it knows not of the two printers on Icegate.
[12:07] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  at the same time, why exactly would the remote ubuntu machine be sharing the printer without me having configured it to do so
[12:08] <BurgerMann> My friend wanted to disable the GUI and was told that sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*gdm would do the trick. However the command he was told to enable doesn't work. What do he do?
[12:08] <thrush> Siph0n: type file filename that should give u a pretty good idea
[12:08] <Siph0n> oh k... neway to see the defaults? cause some of my files are a light blue, and i think its suppose to be a command, but when i type it it says not command
[12:08] <Siph0n> k
[12:08] <Siph0n> thanx :)
[12:08] <calamari> I'm not sure what happened (perhaps the Breezy upgrade?) but I can no longer run Java JAR's by double-clicking them.  To try to fix it I wrote a shell script javajar which works fine from the command line, but it doesn't seem to help when running from gnome
[12:08] <cafuego_> Siph0n: normally, blue would be a directory, yellow an executable file/script
[12:08] <gnomefreak> the router sees the pc your pc will send info through router to printer
[12:08] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  the router is not hosting a print server.
[12:09] <mmiikkee12> BurgerMann: apt-get remove gdm?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> the router is hosting the pc with the printers no?
[12:09] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  the remote computer (icegate) is also not broadcasting over the network anything about the printer.
[12:09] <cafuego_> Siph0n: run 'dircolors' for a list of what's currently set.
[12:09] <Siph0n> k, i did file filename for a light green file and it said shell script executable
[12:09] <Siph0n> thanx! :)
[12:09] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  the pc sees the printer, and uses it; it does not advertise to the network that there is a printer there, thus across the network nothing is saying that there's a printer.
[12:10] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  ok let's try talking about windows.
[12:10] <gnomefreak> blue the pc your on now with-out the printer will send infor to printer using the ip address
[12:10] <cafuego_> purple would appear to me media (sound,image,video)
[12:10] <BurgerMann> mmiikkee12: I'll tell him. Thanx
[12:10] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  in windows, you right click a printer, and hit, "Share"
[12:10] <mmiikkee12> yw
[12:10] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  Windows begins broadcasting packets that say, "I am sharing a printer.  It is called CLP-4000."
[12:10] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy,  i am sharing a printer right now threw a router
[12:11] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  Now, on a remote PC, you say, "Look at the network.  List the printers available."
[12:11] <cafuego_>  Siph0n: The format is *.EXT=ANSICOLORCODE;
[12:11] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  and that PC says, "I found a CLP-4000"
[12:11] <sivang> hi all
[12:12] <mmiikkee12> wtf, synaptic doesn't have supertux?
[12:12] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  Now step back, the remote host (Icegate) is running Linux instead of Windows.  Ubuntu Linux is not broadcasting samba packets.  It's not advertising that there's a printer connected to it.
[12:12] <cafuego_> !info supertux
[12:12] <ubotu> supertux: (Classic 2D jump 'n run sidescroller with Tux), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.1.2-4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 234 kB, Installed size: 664 kB
[12:12] <Orborde> mmiikkee12: Yes it does. I'm *playing* it.
[12:12] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  so unless my computer has hacked into it and taken remote control, there's no way it knows there's a printer there.
[12:12] <cafuego_> mmiikkee12: universe
[12:12] <Siph0n> thanx cafuego and thrush, thats exactly what i needed to know :)
[12:12] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  I need to find the Linux equivalent of right-clicking the printer and telling the machine to share it.
[12:12] <mmiikkee12> it's not in my synaptic, even in universe
[12:13] <Gedionsen> _jason ty, your the bomb...
[12:13] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, look you may have to go through the list and find the printer to set it up in cups than use ip address of router for network if you think that im wrong try looing at your help icon and see what that says or try ubuntu.wiki.org
[12:13] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  ok, but the printer is not there in cups.
[12:13] <bluefoxicy> cafuego_:  when you plug a printer in, does it automatically broadcast to the network that you have it?
[12:13] <_jason> Gedionsen, yw
[12:13] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, windows and linux share nothing i mean nothing (as in same) you can share your windows printer but i dont think cups will help there i wouldnt know i hate windows
[12:14] <cafuego_> bluefoxicy: Uh, if you are it on MacOSX, sure.
[12:14] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  see, that's the thing.  I have a printer installed through cups, but cups isn't sharing it.
[12:14] <bluefoxicy> cafuego_:  UBUNTU.
[12:14] <cafuego_> bluefoxicy: dude
[12:14] <mmiikkee12> apt-get worked
[12:14] <pundai> hey i got this today: W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[12:14] <pundai> with synaptic
[12:14] <cafuego_> out-of-the-blue question == out-of-the-blue answer ;-)
[12:14] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, if your printer is not listed in cups that is a sign that there isnt drivers for it
[12:14] <Klowner> so I went through some local LUG posts, so far I've seen.. "Unbuntu", "Umbunto, and "Unbunto"
[12:15] <cafuego_> !gpgerr
[12:15] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[12:15] <mmiikkee12> pundai: try it again
[12:15] <bluefoxicy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrinterSharing?highlight=%28share%29%7C%28printer%29
[12:15] <pundai> mmiikkee12, uh why...
[12:15] <bluefoxicy> "In Breezy it is nontrivial to make a locally installed printer accessible to other computers in the network. This should be simplified , and there should be a GUI for configuring it.
[12:15] <bluefoxicy> "
[12:15] <bluefoxicy> ok
[12:15] <sivang> anybody have an idea how to set up ATI X300 On breezy?
[12:15] <pundai> why did it happen
[12:15] <bluefoxicy> SO THERE IS NO WAY FOR ME TO DO THIS
[12:15] <bluefoxicy> THANKS GUYS.
[12:15] <gnomefreak> if your printer is already hooked to ubuntu linux on other pc your printer WILL be in cuos list
[12:15] <cafuego_> bluefoxicy: Calm down.
[12:15] <mmiikkee12> oh, do that ^
[12:15] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  on my pc?  No, it's not.
[12:16] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  it's in the list on the other one.
[12:16] <pundai> mmiikkee12, cafuego_ why did the error happen
[12:16] <cafuego_> cafuego_: I am _not_ just online here helping you, I am also dealing with paying clients in real life.
[12:16] <gnomefreak> it should be in the list on this one too
[12:16] <cafuego_> pundai: us.archive is a bad, bad machine.
[12:16] <pundai> i see cafuego_ talks to himself
[12:16] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  exactly why should it eb on the list on this one?  If I plug directly into the cable modem, will the whole world be able to print to my printer automatically?
[12:16] <pundai> cafuego_, interesting..
[12:16] <gnomefreak> unless ofcourse the other pc isnt runnning debian
[12:16] <mmiikkee12> who knows...
[12:16] <bluefoxicy> the pc is running ubuntu
[12:16] <gnomefreak> anyone with your routers ip address can
[12:17] <Stormx2> gimme something usefull to do towards the ubuntu project
[12:17] <Orborde> bluefoxicy: Get it working before worrying about security
[12:18] <crimsun> Stormx2: there're hosts of ways to get involved
[12:18] <gnomefreak> unless your fire wall blocks me i can set this computer to print on ur printer
[12:18] <mmiikkee12> Stormx2: make an Ubuntu Blue theme - i hate brown
[12:18] <mmiikkee12> ;)
[12:18] <thrush> Stormx2: if u go to school sneak into the computer room and install ubuntu on all the machines
[12:18] <mmiikkee12> that too ;)
[12:18] <cafuego_> bluefoxicy: You can at any time edit /etc/cups/* and edit the config files, so sharing works.
[12:18] <WX> anyone here want to help me figure out if my PSU isn't providing high enough quality voltages?
[12:18] <WX> +12V:     +12.46 V
[12:18] <WX> +3.3V:     +3.12 V
[12:18] <Stormx2> thrush: You think I havn't done that?
[12:18] <WX> +5V:       +4.85 V
[12:18] <WX> -12V:     -14.91 V
[12:18] <cafuego_> WX: Stop pasting!!!!!!
[12:19] <WX> are those voltage readings bad?
[12:19] <Klowner> WX: is it being unstable?
[12:19] <WX> yeah
[12:19] <Stormx2> thrush: I net sent, they banned my windows account. I just booted up ubuntu and used that
[12:19] <WX> cafuego_, sorry only had 4 lines to paste
[12:19] <cafuego_> WX: There is _no_ pasting here.
[12:19] <gnomefreak> WX, use pastebin
[12:19] <WX> Klowner, yeah it crashes quite often
[12:19] <cafuego_> Not even "only 4"
[12:19] <WX> wow let's all be rule nazis
[12:19] <ompaul> !tell WX about paste
[12:19] <WX> u've spent more lines correcting me
[12:19] <cafuego_> WX: Wow, let all 500 users paste "only 4" lines.
[12:20] <mmiikkee12> WX: no rule for you!
[12:20] <mmiikkee12> :P
[12:20] <WX> haha
[12:20] <gnomefreak> ompaul,  why bother he cant read the topic?
[12:20] <cafuego_> Why do YOU need to special and an exception?
[12:20] <bhearsum> how do i get the source code of a package?
[12:20] <Stormx2> Ubuntu blue theme has been done (ubuntuforums.org), and i've already had to tell my school's admins i have root.
[12:20] <bluefoxicy> http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/Screenshot-Printers_01.png http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/Screenshot-Printers_02.png http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/Screenshot-Printers_03.png http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/Screenshot-Printers_04.png
[12:20] <Siph0n> lol
[12:20] <crimsun> bhearsum: make sure you have the deb-src line(s) uncommented, then apt-get source package
[12:20] <bhearsum> crimsun: thats what i thought...i'm getting errors though. Could not open file firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu20.dsc - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:20] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  Note that the 3745 is shown for CUPS and for the HP driver finding it, so those two entries are the local printer.
[12:20] <WX> cafuego_, quit whining... why would everyone paste a few lines at the same time?
[12:20] <ompaul> bluefoxicy,  tinyurl.com is useful 26 character url for that
[12:20] <bhearsum> i tried browsing the repo, too, but i couldn't find it
[12:21] <cafuego_> WX: That isn't the point.
[12:21] <gnomefreak> ompaul,  that was more than one :(
[12:21] <Stormx2> what else... hmm
[12:21] <cafuego_> WX: One 1 person is allowed, there's no reason to tell others they can't. Ergo, no pasting. End of story.
[12:21] <bendb> I am running Hoary, and can't use lpr from the command line:
[12:21] <markybob> this couldnt be more off topic if i tried, but which actor does this guy look like?  i cant remember the name and it's driving me nuts.  http://www.markybob.com/camelot.jpg
[12:21] <ompaul> gnomefreak, so three entries :)
[12:21] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  look at the pictures.  That's the entire process of pointing at my router.  Do you see something here?  (Hint:  There's 2 printers on the remote computer and one on the local)
[12:21] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: hmm? It's right here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/
[12:21] <bendb> blout@chipmunk:~ $ lpr
[12:21] <bendb> lpr: error - scheduler not responding!
[12:21] <crimsun> bluefoxicy: sorry
[12:22] <gnomefreak> the second url is that one the pc with the printer or not?
[12:22] <crimsun> bhearsum: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/
[12:22] <cafuego_> WX: if you disagree, take it up with an op.
[12:22] <WX> ok let me talk to chanserv
[12:22] <WX> he's prolly as helpful as you
[12:22] <bhearsum> crimsun: oh, the source is the .orig + the diff, right?
[12:22] <crimsun> bhearsum: yes
[12:22] <bhearsum> duh, heh
[12:22] <bhearsum> thanks bud
[12:22] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  the second one is my machine, it detected my local printer twice
[12:22] <cafuego_> WX: Where exactly did I agree to helping you?
[12:22] <WX> lol
[12:22] <Stormx2> cafuego_, WX: shut up >.>
[12:22] <WX> thanks Storm
[12:23] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  both entries are my local 3745 printer.
[12:23] <cafuego_> (apart from informing you of channel policy, thus probably preventing you from being kicked off?)
[12:23] <bendb> I have cups configured, via 'sudo gnome-cups-manager', and the test page prints fine.
[12:23] <crimsun> WX: to put the issue to rest, pasting more than 3 lines unless excepted by a specific request from an op is the guideline here
[12:23] <Stormx2> !paste
[12:23] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:23] <darrochfamily> I just installed thunderbird with apt-get and I got a funny error message saying that I hadn't specified a maxdepth option.  can anyone tell me what it meand? I have pasted it in flood
[12:24] <WX> ok
[12:24] <WX> instead
[12:24] <Stormx2> WX: I know it seems silly, but if we allow exceptions lines can get big ;-)
[12:24] <gnomefreak> this last url is showing the ml-2550 is this not the laser printer and why is it you dont have it set to network?
[12:24] <WX> okay storm
[12:24] <cafuego_> darrochfamily: That's a command in the post-install script messing up; did the install finish OK?
[12:24] <WX> i ahve an idea
[12:24] <Stormx2> WX: Listening =)
[12:24] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak: ?
[12:24] <jepcubed> markybob: thanks now that is going to bother me all night :)
[12:25] <darrochfamily> cafuego_ , I think so
[12:25] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  when i hit next from 03, it went there.
[12:25] <gnomefreak> those screenshots are from the pc without the printer hooked to it?
[12:25] <cafuego_> darrochfamily: Just ignore it then :-)
[12:25] <Stormx2> I was going to get involved with the Ubuntu-IE team, but they are all communists...
[12:25] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  yeah.
[12:25] <WX> VCore:     +1.32 V  |   +12V:     +12.46 V   |   +3.3V:     +3.12 V    |   +5V:       +4.85 V   |   -12V:     -14.91 V         <--- does this reading look bad?
[12:25] <markybob> jepcubed, you know who i'm thinking of, right?  i cant even remember what movies his been in, but i know i've seen him
[12:25] <darrochfamily> cafuego_ , Iok thanks
[12:25] <Stormx2> WX: No idea ;-)
[12:25] <WX> Stormx2, lol
[12:25] <jepcubed> markybob: yes, it is killing me now ...
[12:25] <gnomefreak> ok the pc without the printers should be set to network not local
[12:25] <Stormx2> I'ma go see how the ubuntu-ie team is going
[12:26] <Stormx2> I still have op permissions on their channel...
[12:26] <gnomefreak> the pc with the printers should be set to local
[12:26] <cafuego_> Stormx2: They're undoubtedly in teh pub.
[12:26] <Terminus> WX, +3.3V seems a bit too low for my tastes and -12V seems to be too big. that's just me.  :)
[12:26] <vincent_> does linux ubuntu have some sort of ascii-table in it?
[12:26] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, you say it went through but yet you still cant print
[12:26] <cafuego_> vincent_: man ascii
[12:26] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  it blindly says whatever.  I can put the URI as 111.111.111.111 if I wanta nd it works.
[12:27] <r0bby> how do I redownload the keyrings?
[12:27] <ompaul> cafuego_, pub that something to do with ftp?
[12:27] <defendguin> is there any way to more tightly integrate gmail into my desktop.  when i click on an email link in a webbrowser i dont want evolution to come up i want open a window for gmail so i can compose it there??
[12:27] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, depends on what works means cause it works means to me is that u can print
[12:27] <WX> Terminus, lol that's what i was thinking
[12:28] <cafuego_> ompaul: only insofar as you can normally type 'mget beer'
[12:28] <Grug2> hey guys, if I have a .bin install file, how do I actually install from it?
[12:28] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  your printer is connected to your network via an ethernet connection isn't it
[12:28] <bluefoxicy> i.e. hp jetdirect
[12:28] <r0bby> GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release: Couldn't access keyring: No such file or director
[12:28] <gnomefreak> a router
[12:28] <cafuego_> Grug2: Depends on what it is.
[12:28] <bluefoxicy> printer->router->computers?
[12:28] <oskude> Grug2, form where, where there no instructions ?
[12:28] <Grug2> its the sun java sdk
[12:28] <bendb> Where would be a good place to ask about getting lpr to work on my Hoary system that is running cups?
[12:28] <cafuego_> Grug2: it varies from jjst running it to converting it to removing it and using  aproperly packaged one instead.
[12:28] <Terminus> WX, maybe it's time to change the PSU? i remember frying a mobo because we ignored the voltage readouts. =D
[12:28] <bluefoxicy> see my printer isn't a print server, it's a printer.  It doesn't have its own ethernet interface, or its own IP.
[12:28] <gnomefreak> pc with printer and router than my pc without either just an ethernet connection to router
[12:28] <cafuego_> Grug2: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[12:28] <Grug2> but its just a bin file... under windows, i just click and it works
[12:28] <bluefoxicy> huh
[12:29] <oskude> yeah, on windows i just click :)
[12:29] <Grug2> well at least it works under windows easily :)
[12:29] <bluefoxicy> this is pissing me off
[12:29] <gnomefreak> bluefoxicy, look im telling you how to make it print either do it the way i suggest or ask someone else cause right now mine works great and im on a different floor as my printer
[12:29] <dnB> can anyone help me out? i did a cd install of edubuntu, everything went well except 2% of packages couldnt be read from disk, im now @ command line only, so i tried to use apt-get install edubuntu-desktop (as the package is missing) however it prompts me to insert the cdrom (which cant be read) can anyone help me to get it to use a diff source? (i have a net connection working)
[12:29] <gnomefreak> and the printer is only an epson c64
[12:30] <cafuego_> Grug2: You cna convert it to a .deb for ubuntu using the make-jpkg command (instructions via that wiki page). - OR you cna just use the blackdown prebuilt java 1.4.2, which is in the 'universe' repository.
[12:30] <kvidell> Are ShipIT cds coming in from The Netherlands?
[12:30] <kvidell> I have a mysterious box waiting for me at home from the Netherlands.
[12:30] <mmiikkee12> oh btw... is there still that problem where you run the risk of trashing an ntfs partition if you access it from linux?
[12:30] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  are you using ipp printing?
[12:30] <cafuego_> kvidell: Apparently
[12:30] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  or SMB?
[12:30] <kvidell> hm, okay.
[12:30] <gnomefreak> hold on let me look\
[12:30] <SourceYako> hello
[12:30] <cafuego_> the dutch guys have all received theirs already
[12:30] <SourceYako> yup :)
[12:30] <thrush> dnB: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list comment out # the cdrom line at top
[12:30] <SourceYako> got a small problem here
[12:30] <SourceYako> anyone willing to help?
[12:31] <dnB> thrush, thanks a lot <3
[12:31] <kvidell> My mom thought it was a bomb or something (We're from The Netherlands and have the same last name as the kid being accused with some large kidnapping scandal out there right now, so she thinks we're going to be targeted *smacks his forehead*)
[12:31] <dnB> :)
[12:31] <thrush> dnB: then sudo apt-get update
[12:31] <dnB> thanks
[12:31] <dnB> brb
[12:31] <Grug2> ok thanks - i figured it out... had to set execute permissions on the bin file
[12:31] <gnomefreak> ipp
[12:31] <cafuego_> kvidell: Make sure to sprinkle some flour on the cds and yell ANTHRAX!!!
[12:31] <SourceYako> I mounted 3 NTFS filesystems to /media/stuff
[12:31] <kvidell> lol
[12:31] <kvidell> She'd fall over.
[12:31] <SourceYako> but on opening the folders, they don't read
[12:31] <dabaR> stuff is a bad word:)
[12:31] <dabaR> SourceYako: permission not granted?
[12:32] <SourceYako> nope
[12:32] <mmiikkee12> can you still access them from windows...?
[12:32] <SourceYako> it? 500
[12:32] <gnomefreak> try sudo
[12:32] <SourceYako> but I can't change it
[12:32] <SourceYako> yup I can
[12:32] <crimsun> you need to mount them with umask=022
[12:32] <SourceYako> sudo dir /media/stuff works
[12:32] <mmiikkee12> so would it be safe to access my win2k partition from here?
[12:32] <SourceYako> but I want to access them from the normal account to
[12:32] <dabaR> SourceYako: do what crimsun told you:)
[12:32] <Nick_Hill> The channel's topic is really mangled for me. I think an international character set has been used. Can the topic be written in UTF-8, C or ISO8859-1?
[12:32] <dabaR> Add that to the fstab file.
[12:32] <SourceYako> oh k
[12:32] <dabaR> Or jkust mount like that.
[12:33] <SourceYako> thanks crimsun and dabaR
[12:33] <gnomefreak> mmiikkee12,  to me nothing about windows is "safe"
[12:33] <dabaR> excellent
[12:33] <markybob> jepcubed still around?
[12:33] <dabaR> haha
[12:33] <varsendagger> hey i just updated to breezy how do i install xubuntu?
[12:33] <Grug2> win xp has been very safe for me
[12:33] <SourceYako> btw crimsun
[12:33] <mmiikkee12> i mean accessing ntfs from linux
[12:33] <dabaR> Grug2: are you still here with taht xp talk?
[12:33] <gnomefreak> varsendagger, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:33] <SourceYako> does that work with the breezy badger distro too?
[12:33] <mmiikkee12> i only have windows for my mom...
[12:33] <Grug2> ? i am installing java now
[12:33] <dabaR> SourceYako: it is distro independent.
[12:33] <SourceYako> cuz fstab seems different to me from hoary
[12:33] <markybob> jepcubed, paul giamatti.  from sideways.  :)
[12:34] <Nick_Hill> My 78 y/o dad uses Debian
[12:34] <varsendagger> now i've allready installed xfce4 will that cause any problems?
[12:34] <SourceYako> I'll try it though
[12:34] <SourceYako> thanks
[12:34] <crimsun> varsendagger: nope.
[12:34] <gnomefreak> varsendagger, no
[12:34] <varsendagger> great
[12:34] <varsendagger> do you promis?
[12:34] <SourceYako> bai
[12:34] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:34] <mmiikkee12> no :P
[12:34] <gnomefreak> var you can try this
[12:34] <Orborde> mmiikkee12: I know read is safe...not sure if they ever got writing to NTFS to a completely perfect state.
[12:34] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get remove xfce
[12:34] <gnomefreak> or add purge in there if you like
[12:35] <Orborde> mmiikkee12: That would do.
[12:35] <gnomefreak> than sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:35] <gnomefreak> that is if you feel safer that way varsendagger
[12:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> how do i make beagle auto start?
[12:36] <varsendagger> dabaR, what is the FS licence, is that th one in sources.list or the one for this chat room
[12:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> the deamen
[12:36] <varsendagger> ?
[12:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> daemon
[12:36] <varsendagger> neaver mind i wasn't serious any way
[12:37] <twisted_maple> anyone know why I get "Playback device not found" when trying to play midi?
[12:37] <Nick_Hill> Who sets the channel topic? Does it look messed up for anyone else?
[12:37] <crimsun> Nick_Hill: your irc client doesn't properly support UTF-8 then
[12:37] <Quest-Master> Nick_Hill:  this part?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> it was set by tritium and no it looks fine
[12:38] <Orborde> twisted_maple: AFAIK it's because MIDI is not set up by default on Ubuntu. Go searching the wiki/forums.
[12:38] <Nick_Hill> Quest-Master, Yes
[12:38] <thrush> twisted_maple: ah midi.. good luck man
[12:38] <Quest-Master> Nick_Hill: Yeah, I get it too ;x
[12:38] <Grug2> anybody know if linux/ubuntu supports Windows .fon fonts (not ttf but raster?)
[12:38] <Nick_Hill> So it probably isn't in UTF 8?
[12:38] <twisted_maple> Orborde -- got all the sound card set.  Timidity works find... trying to get the EMU-8000 to kick in.  Mods are all loaded.  Devices (sequencer) is created.
[12:38] <Quest-Master> Nick_Hill: What client are you using?
[12:38] <dabaR> varsendagger: free software klicences, and the other open source licences. They all disclaim all warranty, you can read the disclaimer from GPL for excample.
[12:38] <dooglus> BROKEN_LADDER: I used to get it to start from my ~/.gnomerc until I realised how much it affected system performance and removed it
[12:38] <dts> i have ubuntu on my laptop. What's the best way to move the entire system to my new laptop?
[12:38] <Nick_Hill> Quest-Master, X-chat
[12:38] <Quest-Master> Nick_Hill: Dunno.. I'm using HydraIRC on Windows
[12:39] <gnomefreak> :(winblows
[12:39] <Nick_Hill> So it is almost certainly not in UTF-8
[12:39] <Orborde> twisted_maple: Okay, I have no idea, then. Sorry. :)
[12:39] <oskude> does anyone know of a program that show the disk usage, like "top" shows cpu usage ? (i can imagine that this aint so easy)
[12:39] <twisted_maple> df
[12:39] <twisted_maple> oskude: df
[12:39] <gnomefreak> isnt utf-8 unix only?
[12:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> dooglus beagled hinders system performance?
[12:40] <Orborde> gnomefreak: Doubt it
[12:40] <oskude> twisted_maple, you dont seem to know what "top" makes, but thanks
[12:40] <funkyHat> gnomefreak, no
[12:40] <gnomefreak> oh ok ty
[12:40] <funkyHat> gnomefreak, don't ask me how to get it working on windows though ;)
[12:40] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> when is linux going to break into the 1990's with pervasive indexed file architecture, so that searches are instant?
[12:41] <mmiikkee12> # not sure what this does, but it looks important: - comment right before proc in my fstab :)
[12:41] <gnomefreak> there is a free download of xchat for windows works pretty much the same
[12:41] <oskude> BROKEN_LADDER, use "locate"
[12:41] <gnomefreak> yes i said free :)
[12:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> oskude lol
[12:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> oskude locate is an archaic program.
[12:41] <Grug2> Can gnome use raster fonts from windows (.fon) ?
[12:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> oskude it requires a database to be occasionally updated.
[12:41] <gnomefreak> my g/f is scared of linux so i found it for winblows
[12:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> Grug2 why would you want to do that?
[12:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> Grug2 just out of curiosity..
[12:42] <dooglus> BROKEN_LADDER: every time you create, edit or delete a file, the beagle daemon updates its database to make a note of the change.
[12:42] <Orborde> gnomefreak: Make her use Linux.
[12:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> gnomefreak lol.  mine is too.
[12:42] <Grug2> cause the fonts from linux are all fuzzy or distorted or something...
[12:42] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> Orborde dude..be realistic.  we don't all have nerdy girlfriends.
[12:42] <Grug2> i'd like to use the MS Sans Serif font
[12:42] <Grug2> if possible
[12:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> my girlfriend is a literature major.  she's computer illiterate
[12:42] <Orborde> BROKEN_LADDER: What does she do with her computer?
[12:42] <gnomefreak> fonts for linux are fine why not try to set your resolotion different
[12:42] <Grug2> but it is raster, not ttf
[12:42] <dooglus> BROKEN_LADDER: I deleted a copy of the kernel source tree once, and after about 2 hours of frantically trying to catch up with the thousands of deletes, beagled crashed my PC
[12:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> Grug2 then use the ms sans serif true type font.
[12:42] <Grug2> its not ttf though...
[12:42] <Grug2> its a raster font
[12:42] <Grug2> .fon
[12:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> Grug2 look for .ttf files in windows and copy them.  there's a fonts directory.
[12:42] <axel> hello all
[12:42] <bob832> is there a way to display an address bar in nautilus?
[12:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> Grug2 it's also available as a .ttf
[12:43] <Grug2> ok - i'll try it... you know where the fonts directory is?
[12:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> Grug2 i once copied all those windows fonts.
[12:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> Grug2 search for it.  it's easy to find.
[12:43] <Grug2> ok
[12:43] <Orborde> BROKEN_LADDER: Computer illiterate people are prime candidates for Linux, because they don't do anything with their computers :)
[12:43] <Grug2> thanks ladder
[12:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> Grug2 windows seems to make it hard to copy though.  i had to make a zip of it and copy that.
[12:43] <gnomefreak> if i wanted windows font i wouldnt have come to this side of the os elevater
[12:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> Orborde lol
[12:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> gnomefreak windows has some great fonts dude.
[12:43] <mmiikkee12> what are the correct dump/pass options in fstab for ntfs?
[12:43] <axel> Help, anyone knows how i can overcome a "cannot execute binary file error (im trying ipodlinux installation)
[12:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> gnomefreak the freesans font, for instance, is atrocious
[12:44] <Grug2> linux fonts look great when printing, but horrible (to me ) on the screen
[12:44] <Nick_Hill> Orborde, It is probably not a good idea to *make* someone use GNU/Linux. Much better to tell them about it, lay out the ethical arguments then let them make their own decision. Pushing someone to use a different OS always results in rebellion in my experience.
[12:44] <mmiikkee12> everyone use dos!!!
[12:44] <lurah|off> nite --->
[12:44] <axel> Help, anyone knows how i can overcome a "cannot execute binary file" error (im trying ipodlinux installation)
[12:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> can a linux file system automatically save dynamic file attributes and make an index that a program can use, if it understands that file system?  like in beos..searches were faster even than mac osx spotlight.  because the fs wase indexed like database, and the search utility knew how to interface with it..
[12:45] <oskude> axel, that would be like "why can i open the door". be more precise !
[12:45] <gnomefreak> BROKEN_LADDER, but i dont get if you know linux is not windows why not find a font that linux has to use that looks better ther eis a font package for the guy looking for it but i cant remember what its called i hate windows with a passion btw :)
[12:45] <Orborde> Nick_Hill: The idea is to get people who won't know the difference to use it.
[12:45] <mmiikkee12> axel: try chmod 755 file
[12:45] <Orborde> Nick_Hill: (How condescending I am)
[12:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> gnomefreak i've never found comparable quality in free fonts.
[12:46] <BROKEN_LADDER> gnomefreak i hate windows too. with a passion.  even linux is frustrating for me, since i used to use beos.
[12:46] <axel> mmiikkee12, ivze already set all the permissions
[12:46] <mmiikkee12> oh
[12:46] <gnomefreak> i dont see much of a difference really in fonts
[12:46] <mmiikkee12> then i give up...
[12:46] <mmiikkee12> try redownloading it, maybe corrupt
[12:46] <gnomefreak> mmiikkee12,  you just installed linux dont give up already
[12:47] <Nick_Hill> Orborde, If someone is starting out and has no basis for comparison, then it is a good idea to just introduce them to GNU/Linux. But a grounding in the principles I think is a good idea too.
[12:47] <pztak> i'm having a strange problem.. i'm using a dell d600 laptop with ubuntu and recently i started using an external monitor (dell 2005fpw) at a different resolution, so i changed the resolution in xorg.conf. now even when i set the right resolution back and disconnect the monitor gnome won't load in the correct laptop resolution (1400x1050).. any ideas?
[12:47] <mmiikkee12> on axel's problem i mean
[12:47] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[12:47] <mmiikkee12> i'm still tweaking my system, hang on
[12:47] <gnomefreak> i wonder if bluefoxicy ever got the printer printing
[12:48] <gnomefreak> mmiikkee12,  with linux you can be tweeking your system for 10 years
[12:48] <bluefoxicy> gnomefreak:  installing samba does it.
[12:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> do any of you guys use clearlooks?  you know you can make the progress bar not have that atrocious "candy bar" striped look?
[12:48] <r0d> how do i change the default program run w/ various extensions? want to xmms to run .mp3 instead of totem
[12:49] <mmiikkee12> anyone know how to turn off the beeping when firefox can't find something in a page?
[12:49] <axel> oskude: well basicaly im executing something called make_sw, which should allow me to make a new firmware with linux for the ipod from a kernel specially made for ipod
[12:49] <Sionide> r0d, right-click -> properties -> open with
[12:49] <gnomefreak> samba is one of many programs that willl do it
[12:49] <r0d> Sionide, default
[12:49] <r0d> not needed to do that
[12:49] <r0d> *needing
[12:49] <Sionide> eh
[12:49] <Sionide> yeah you are
[12:50] <sobersabre> hi.. which is the latest openoffice2 ubuntu package ?
[12:50] <axel> oskude: except i get "./make_fw : cann ot execute binary file3
[12:50] <oskude> axel, sry out of my knowledge :(
[12:50] <r0d> Sionide, when i say default i mean double click and automatic it goes to xmms not totem
[12:50] <Sionide> yes! right-click a .mp3 file -> properties -> open with -> add -> xmms
[12:50] <Nick_Hill> I'm off now, but if a moderator comes along, someone please have a word about the character set used for the topic. I am nto the only person to see this, and I don't think there are any glyphs there which need fall outside ascii.
[12:50] <Sionide> the select xmms
[12:50] <gnomefreak> latest openoffice2 package?
[12:50] <oskude> axel, do you have "file3" ?
[12:50] <sobersabre> gnomefreak yep.
[12:50] <axel> oskude; yeah a bit out of mine too it seems
[12:50] <Aven> hey, how do I set the total amount of MB space that can be used for a directory?
[12:50] <r0d> Sionide, lol what a goof i am. i c what your saying
[12:50] <axel> oskude; maybe not whats file3
[12:51] <oskude> axel, or was file3 supposed to be file"
[12:51] <Sionide> r0d, goof indeed - you said it! ;)
[12:51] <gnomefreak> wouldnt open office 2 be the latest package and just grab updates from ubuntu updater?
[12:51] <sobersabre> Aven it is usually done on a per partition/user/group basis. it is done by the means of quota.
[12:51] <Aven> sobersabre: ah ok
[12:51] <Aven> well how do I set the quota?
[12:51] <sobersabre> gnomefreak it is, but v.2.0 is out, and my current package is 1.9.129-0.1ubuntu
[12:52] <axel> oskude, oh not i mistyped, its not file3 it was file"
[12:52] <Sionide> sobersabre, ubuntu breezy has openoffice2.0 as default.
[12:52] <Nick_Hill> I think the  characters in the topic should be |
[12:52] <gnomefreak> sobersabre, are you running breezy or hoary?
[12:52] <axel> oskude, end of brackets i ean
[12:52] <oskude> axel, can use use "./make_fw --help" ?
[12:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> r0d the file type settings in gnome are rather limited
[12:52] <Stormx2> Gimme something to do towards the ubuntu project...
[12:52] <sobersabre> gnomefreak breezy.
[12:52] <MrFarts> hey
[12:52] <gnomefreak> oo2 is default
[12:52] <Stormx2> hi
[12:52] <jrsims> when Dapper Drake is released, will I have to re-install? Or will I be able to update my Breezy Badger using Synaptic or something?
[12:52] <MrFarts> is there anything like yum for ubuntu ?
[12:53] <Stormx2> jrsims: Upgrade.
[12:53] <Hobbsee> jrsims: you can dist-upgrade, yes
[12:53] <r0d> Sionide, hows your knowledge w/ kde? they have a program w/ the ability to change any program/extension configuaration. is their a program for gnome that does the same?
[12:53] <Sionide> jrsims, you'll be able to upgrade
[12:53] <gnomefreak> apt-get = yum but different
[12:53] <r0d> Sionide, w/o right click prop:D
[12:53] <MrFarts> gnomefreak, as long as it has dependencies and can update from a repository, it's ok with me
[12:53] <jrsims> cool. :)
[12:54] <Sionide> r0d, *shrug* kde is poop, use kubuntu if you wanna use kde.
[12:54] <MrFarts> gnomefreak, can it do those things ?
[12:54] <blizzo> OOo 1.9.129 ist default
[12:54] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, Yes. The debian package management system is probably what inspired YUM. But it is somewhat more sophisticated.
[12:54] <gnomefreak> mrfarts thats only 1/4 of what synaptic (apt-get) can do
[12:54] <r0d> Sionide, lol, i dont use kde. just asking if there is a tool similar to what i said. been looking for some time now
[12:54] <MrFarts> gnomefreak, cool
[12:54] <gnomefreak> OO2 is default in breezy
[12:54] <gnomefreak> OO1.9 is default in hoary
[12:54] <axel> oskude: i tried "./make_fw --help", it says again "cannot execute binary file"
[12:54] <jrsims> I for one, would love to see a "fubuntu" - fluxbox + ubuntu. ;)
[12:54] <sobersabre> gnomefreak can you run dpkg -l on any of the oo2 packages ?
[12:54] <Sionide> r0d, don't know in that case
[12:54] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, The debian package management system is probably the most sophisticated package management system. THere are several GUI and command line front ends.
[12:54] <MrFarts> would you guys say that running ubuntu on a server is a reasonable idea ?
[12:55] <switchcat> greetings
[12:55] <sobersabre> jrsims or opuntu ( openbox ubuntu )
[12:55] <MrFarts> or is it a bit too bleeding edge ?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> sobersabre, i dont see why you would need to that is for debian packages
[12:55] <oskude> axel, show me what "ls -lah make_fw" prints (1line please)
[12:55] <crimsun> MrFarts: sure. There is, after all, a server-oriented install.
[12:55] <jrsims> sobersabre: Hmm. Never used openbox!
[12:55] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, And Ubuntu is based on Debian, and is based on the Debian package management system.
[12:55] <MrFarts> crimsun, excellent
[12:55] <MrFarts> thanks
[12:55] <MrFarts> Nick_Hill,  i ran debian pack in 1999 the last time
[12:55] <MrFarts> i quite liked it, but they are way too slow to update
[12:55] <axel> oskude: -rwxr-xr-x  1 axel axel 21K 2005-08-15 07:00 make_fw
[12:56] <MrFarts> i was intrigued by the fact that ubuntu appears to to debian-based
[12:56] <sobersabre> gnomefreak, what are you talking about ?
[12:56] <vincent_> how do you make a picture with your webcam in linux ubuntu?
[12:56] <Stormx2> MrFarts: Well it is =)
[12:56] <sobersabre> jrsims , it is a fork of blackbox, rewritten from scratch.
[12:56] <oskude> axel, hmm, maybe its NO binary that you can execute
[12:56] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, For GUI, there is synaptic, kynaptic and command line curses aptitude and dselect, command line only: aptitude, dpkg, apt-get
[12:56] <gnomefreak> sober dpkg -i isnt needed for ubuntu packages only need if you are downloading and installing a package ubuntu doesnt have
[12:57] <MrFarts> Nick_Hill, i prefer the commandline anyway
[12:57] <Aven> hm, how do I set a quota for a user?
[12:57] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, To istall a package, sudo aptitude install packagename
[12:57] <MrFarts> although the last version of dselect i used was something awful
[12:57] <sobersabre> gnomefreak, I have asked you to run dpkg -l , not "i"
[12:57] <dts> i have ubuntu on my laptop. What's the best way to move the entire system to my new laptop?
[12:57] <MrFarts> has it improved at all since then ?
[12:57] <axel> oskude:well, its supposed to, maybe its corrupt tho, im gonna try another nightly build version, brb
[12:57] <gnomefreak> sorry i thought that was i
[12:57] <jrsims> sobersabre: how does it compare to fluxbox?
[12:57] <Stormx2> dts: What do you mean?
[12:57] <MrFarts> Aven, enable quotas in fstab, run quotaon
[12:57] <blizzo> gnomefreak: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/misc/
[12:58] <sobersabre> jrsims it doesn't ... openbox wins :)
[12:58] <MrFarts> Aven, and quotacheck
[12:58] <blizzo> openoffice.org2-officebean (1.9.129-0.1ubuntu4)
[12:58] <Stormx2> Yay for gnome ;-)
[12:58] <MrFarts> Aven, i think there is a HOWOT somewhere
[12:58] <Aven> what's fstab? :\
[12:58] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, Or try the curses dselect or aptitude.
[12:58] <dts> Stormx2: well I have laptop A which has ubuntu installed on it and I want to move the system to Laptop B
[12:58] <thrush> dts: do u need the entire thing? id just move my home directory contents maybe
[12:58] <MrFarts> Aven, /etc/fstab
[12:58] <Hobbsee> !tell Aven about fstab
[12:58] <Stormx2> dts: Copy over? Can't you just fresh install?
[12:59] <MrFarts> Nick_Hill, how many CDs is ubuntu btw ?
[12:59] <dts> can i have a list of all the programs that are installed or something from apt and then automatically install them on the new system
[12:59] <MrFarts> Nick_Hill, the website seems to imply thtat there is only one install CD
[12:59] <MrFarts> Nick_Hill, seems a bit smaall
[12:59] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, The default install fits on one
[12:59] <dts> because i don't want to reinstall everything i installed manually
[12:59] <crimsun> MrFarts: 1
[12:59] <Stormx2> MrFarts: One.
[12:59] <gnomefreak> blizzo: i have no questions of what packages are where i have this set to my liking and i have OO2 like most all other breezy users
[12:59] <jrsims> sobersabre: one thing I like about fluxbox is that it's really lightweight (it is kind of a pain to jimmy with config files to customize it though). Is openbox just about as lightweight?
[12:59] <MrFarts> Nick_Hill, the rest you have to get online ?
[12:59] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, However, there is a universe repository you can call on with 15000? packages
[12:59] <Stormx2> MrFarts: No.
[12:59] <Stormx2> MrFarts: It works fine without downloading anything else
[12:59] <crimsun> the CD contains everything you need.
[01:00] <Stormx2> MrFarts: But of course, you'll want to put more stuff on eventually ;-) Thats where apt-get or synaptic come in
[01:00] <MrFarts> crimsun, i guess i'm just used to seeing redhat in all its 7 CD glory :)
[01:00] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, If you need a large selection of packages offline, go for Debian sarge on 2 DVDs.
[01:00] <crimsun> universe+multiverse contain about 17000 additional packages.
[01:00] <gnomefreak> <<<has uni and multi uni and backports :)
[01:00] <MrFarts> Nick_Hill, actually i don't need that much stuff, especially on a server
[01:00] <sobersabre> jrsims you can always apt-get install/apt-get remove any package... that's what's so good about debian ( ubuntu variant )
[01:00] <MrFarts> Nick_Hill, basically, i need gcc, some servers
[01:00] <MrFarts> Nick_Hill, is that stuff included ?/
[01:00] <Stormx2> MrFarts: if you enter the server option on the install cd, you get what you need, methinks
[01:01] <Nick_Hill> !repositories
[01:01] <ubotu> repositories is, like, How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[01:01] <Aven> erm
[01:01] <Stormx2> MrFarts: gcc is available in the repos, yeah
[01:01] <Aven> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab <-- I save the file as winmac_fstab ?
[01:01] <MrFarts> Stormx2, it's not installed by default ?!
[01:01] <Stormx2> MrFarts: I... don't think so. Not sure, mind.
[01:01] <dts> so no hints on how to keep the programs that are on my system installed
[01:02] <MrFarts> thanks, i'll check it out
[01:02] <MrFarts> it's only two cds to download i guess :)
[01:02] <MrFarts> i'll try the live cd thing first
[01:02] <Stormx2> MrFarts: But if you are running a server you'll have internet and hence access to download it ;-)
[01:02] <Grug> wow - just installed MS verdana fonts and all the sudden my screen looks GREAT
[01:02] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, The package management system is so good, you shouldn't worry about it. Just uncomment multiverse from /etc/apt/sources.list then...
[01:02] <garrincha> 
[01:02] <Stormx2> Grug: BLASPHAMY!
[01:02] <Grug> lol
[01:02] <Grug> but i love ubuntu now
[01:02] <gnomefreak> only thing i wanna know is a list of GNU editoers for ubuntu other than emacs and vi and vi take offs
[01:02] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, sudo aptitude update
[01:02] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, sudo aptitude install packagename
[01:03] <axel> oskude: dude im with stupid, i had the ppc not i386 by mistake
[01:03] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, It will pull in dependencies like libc-dev make etc etc
[01:03] <oskude> axel, :)
[01:03] <MrFarts> Nick_Hill, excellent
[01:03] <Grug> anybody know when the next release of ubuntu is?
[01:03] <Stormx2> MrFarts: Or simply "sudo apt-get install <packagename>" both work, you're more likely to see instructions with apt-get
[01:03] <eternale1> hey guys long time no talk which is actually a good think on a support channel :D
[01:03] <NoobieDoobieDo> Ubuntu seems a little slugish, how can I improve performance ?
[01:03] <eternale1> thing*
[01:03] <Nick_Hill> MrFarts, sudo aptitude install gcc
[01:03] <jake37> anyone having probs with amarok player? I have added recommended engines (arts and xine) and it will simply cycle thru playlist and not play anything...
[01:03] <Stormx2> eternale1: Yeah ;-)
[01:04] <MrFarts> i have to take off
[01:04] <MrFarts> thanks for the info
[01:04] <dabaR> see ya
[01:04] <eternale1> anyway i've ran into a problem looking into the upgrading
[01:04] <Stormx2> MrFarts: Good luck =)
[01:04] <sobersabre> NoobieDoobieDo whaat do you mean "sluggish" ?
[01:04] <dabaR> change you rnick next time...
[01:04] <Nick_Hill> OK, Np. I'm off too
[01:04] <eternale1> i tried that first part with removal of firefox packages
[01:04] <eternale1> and now it won't let me install the mozilla-firefox one , it fails to fetch
[01:04] <eternale1> the package
[01:04] <Aven> noooooooooooo!
[01:04] <NoobieDoobieDo> sobersabre, i mean graphicly, like "screen tearing", screen delay, and so on.
[01:04] <Aven> for fstab, I get: No usable windows/mac partitions found
[01:04] <Aven> :(
[01:04] <Burke> Hello
[01:04] <eternale1> then i try apt-get update and that fails
[01:04] <NoobieDoobieDo> sobersabre, win2k by comparison, runs 'smoother'
[01:05] <jake37> dabaR > any experience with amaroK player?
[01:05] <Stormx2> !tell Aven about windowsdrives
[01:05] <krogoth64> how hard would it be to get to the xdm login screen on ubuntu from another computer?
[01:05] <eternale1> with some 404 errors
[01:05] <gnomefreak> someone just told me anjuta is GNU :) yayyyyyyyy
[01:05] <dabaR> jake37: /j #kubuntu
[01:05] <dooglus> NoobieDoobieDo: it will look smoother if you turn on x.org's backing store
[01:05] <dabaR> jake37: search the forums.
[01:05] <jrsims> is there a clean way to run both OpenBox and Gnome with ubuntu?
[01:05] <Stormx2> eternale1: You should inform whoever maintains the repos - that shouldn't happen
[01:05] <NoobieDoobieDo> dooglus, ic. is that simple to do or no ?
[01:05] <jake37> dabar...I am using ubuntu w/ kde files added by installs only...is amarok a kde only prog?
[01:05] <dooglus> NoobieDoobieDo: not too hard.  you need to add a line to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:06] <NoobieDoobieDo> cool
[01:06] <NoobieDoobieDo> thx
[01:06] <eternale1> hmm
[01:06] <dooglus> NoobieDoobieDo: only problem is I don't have my PC with me, so I can't see exactly what I added.
[01:06] <eternale1> guess i won't be closing this firefox window ....
[01:06] <eternale1> ;D
[01:06] <oskude> axel, do you still have the ppc file ?
[01:06] <Stormx2> eternale1: lol!
[01:06] <NoobieDoobieDo> ic
[01:06] <eternale1> haha
[01:06] <dooglus> NoobieDoobieDo: it's something like :   Option "BackingStore" "yes"    in the graphic card section of the xorg.conf
[01:06] <nickrud> dooglus, that's called bait and switch, or something like that ;)
[01:06] <oskude> axel, i would be intereste what "file" says to that file
[01:06] <dabaR> jake37: no, look where UI told you, dont make me type. /j is for join channel in irc.
[01:06] <NoobieDoobieDo> dooglus, thx
[01:06] <Stormx2> eternale1: Hmmm... Try "sudo apt-get update"
[01:06] <dooglus> nickrud: no, I'm trying to help, I just don't have all the info to hand
[01:07] <krogoth64> can I log in to X remotely?
[01:07] <cfa> hi
[01:07] <dooglus> NoobieDoobieDo: you could try that.  the worse that will happen is X will refuse to start, so you just take the line out again...
[01:07] <Stormx2> hey
[01:07] <jake37> dabaR> k...have been searching forums already
[01:07] <nickrud> dooglus, no, no, I think I can find it from that. Thanks, I'll look at it
[01:07] <cfa> any1 have a tablet
[01:07] <eternale1> did that with the same result
[01:07] <eternale1> s
[01:07] <Stormx2> cfa: Yeah, I have to take 4 a day...
[01:08] <NoobieDoobieDo> dooglus, i think it will also help to set the color depth to 16 instead of 24, that was my primary concern...
[01:08] <dooglus> nickrud: what it does is it keeps a copy of the graphical content of every window in RAM, so when you move things around, the windows underneath can be refreshed directly from the RAM copy, instead of the programs that created the windows having to do the work of working out what to redraw
[01:08] <Grug> !themes
[01:08] <Grug> lol
[01:08] <Grug> tell !themes
[01:08] <Grug> ok i'm a n00b
[01:08] <Stormx2> Grug: /msg ubotu themes
[01:08] <Grug> ahh thanks
[01:09] <dooglus> NoobieDoobieDo: try the BackingStore thing - it made a huge difference for me.  Of course, it does use a little more RAM, so if you're short of RAM maybe it will make things worse.  All you can do is try it :)
[01:09] <nickrud> ah. big memory, slow processor help. I might really want that.
[01:09] <NoobieDoobieDo> dooglus, in my xorg.conf there is no instance of 'backing store' but im asking google...
[01:09] <nickrud> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/x-faq/speedups/ looks interesting
[01:09] <Stormx2> owwy i can barely type, me hands are so sore :-\
[01:09] <dooglus> NoobieDoobieDo: no, it's not there by default, but you can add it.  It's one word, I'm pretty sure
[01:10] <cfa> any1 have a tablet laptop
[01:10] <NoobieDoobieDo> ok
[01:10] <Stormx2> cfa: No, but whats the problem?
[01:10] <cfa> i would like to get the pen to work
[01:10] <RustyJuggler> How do I get the vnc server running, I have tried to use the guide for vnc4server, but it wont start
[01:10] <Stormx2> !tell cfa about laptop
[01:10] <woody_> vnserver
[01:10] <eternale1> little more investigating into the 404 errors on the update .. they all seem to be in hoary-backports directory
[01:11] <dooglus> NoobieDoobieDo: find the section called "device" where it sets up your graphics card, and add Option "backingstore" "on"
[01:11] <woody_> what is the default root password on a ubuntu install ?
[01:11] <britishseapower> why wont ubuntu play mp3s ? (just installed it)
[01:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> the lady on air america radio right now has a fucking east coast + british accent.  weird.
[01:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> oops..pardon my language
[01:11] <Orborde> woody_: There isn't one
[01:11] <Stormx2> !mp3
[01:11] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:11] <dooglus> woody_: by default the root password is locked.  we use 'sudo' to run commands as root.
[01:11] <kinkoblast> Will it mess up my install (default from 5.10 Ubuntu CD plus configed NDISWrapper for my Wireless card) if I install xubuntu-desktop
[01:11] <NoobieDoobieDo> dooglus, ok...
[01:11] <woody_> dooglus thanks
[01:12] <oskude> woody_, you can set one with "sudo passwd" (and sudo asks your password)
[01:12] <kinkoblast> woody_: There isn't one, root is disabled. Use sudo.
[01:12] <jb__> hi all, i can't adjust volume level on new 5.10 install - any suggestions?
[01:12] <britishseapower> !mp3
[01:12] <ubotu> well, mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:12] <Stormx2> britishseapower: I just said that >.>
[01:12] <dooglus> woody_: so you can "sudo apt-get install package" and such like.  it'll ask for a password.  it wants YOUR password, not root's
[01:12] <dooglus> woody_: it'll only ask once - then it'll remember the password for 15 minutes I think
[01:13] <Stormx2> yeah 15
[01:13] <Stormx2> Ctrl + Alt + Backspace ;-)
[01:13] <oskude> btw. are there benefits for root not having a password ?
[01:13] <RustyJuggler> vncserver says that it started whatever is in /home/myusername/.vnc/xstartup, but I still don't find it with netstat -t -l
[01:13] <kinkoblast> dogglus: For in that terminal, anyway.
[01:14] <Stormx2> oskude: Security, user friendly, it means you arn't likely to overwrite important stuff in nautilus, etc
[01:14] <cfa> stormx2, thanx i have been there any other ideas
[01:14] <bob832> hi. . .i successfully changed the volume control in the tray to control PCM however, my keyboard buttons do not change it - what would i have to change to correct this?
[01:14] <woody_> RustyJuggler it started remember to do the .vncrc if you want gnome desktop
[01:14] <Stormx2> bob832: You don't want it controlling master?
[01:14] <britishseapower> what a palava
[01:14] <rawtek> anyone here know how to set up wpa support with wpa supplicant
[01:14] <mmiikkee12> now to find a nice aqua background
[01:15] <Stormx2> britishseapower: Not really. You only need to execute one line
[01:15] <oskude> Stormx2, well you KNOW your password, so u use sudo. what i wanted to know is it harder to hack a root without password, or so...
[01:15] <bob832> Stormx2: no, i'm on a laptop and need the PCM to be controled
[01:15] <NoobieDoobieDo> <--- using no good intel 810 graphics card
[01:16] <cafuego_> mmiikkee12: http://www.cafuego.net/Aqua%20Blue.jpg
[01:16] <nickrud> NoobieDoobieDo, be also, I've just set it
[01:16] <cfa> i tried this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/FujitsuT4010D, but it cashed X, i have a T4020D
[01:16] <mmiikkee12> cafuego_: 404 error
[01:16] <Stormx2> oskude: Well really, its a user thing. You'll find a lot of new users just use their root account for general work, its a big security risk, as root should only be used for admin (so that ports don't get left open, etc)
[01:17] <NoobieDoobieDo> nickrud, there really is little difference to the eye between 16 and 24/32 bit color depth
[01:17] <RustyJuggler> what is .vncrc?
[01:17] <NoobieDoobieDo> anyways thanks again all
[01:17] <nickrud> I run at 24, I'll do gl when I have a card that's worth it
[01:17] <Stormx2> oskude: ubuntu is different on that, it has an all-in-one account, were anyone hacking in won't be able to issue sudo remotely (i beleive)
[01:17] <NoobieDoobieDo> BYE ALL !
[01:17] <Stormx2> oskude: And like i said, it stops users renaming "var" to "SUPER HAPPY DIRECTORY"
[01:17] <dooglus> NoobieDoobieDo: drag a window around quickly and you'll notice that there's no "gap" left behind while the redraw tries to catch up
[01:17] <kinkoblast> stormx2: I think you can use sudo remotly... Maybe it's my apple i'm thiniking of, but i've done it.
[01:18] <oskude> Stormx2, and renaming "var" with sudo wouldnt work ?
[01:18] <rawtek> need a little wpa support here
[01:18] <rawtek> please
[01:18] <dooglus> oskude: the main advantage is that people can't guess your root password - because you don't have one
[01:18] <kinkoblast> oskude: It would, but it's more trouble than it's worth,
[01:18] <cfa> rawtek me too
[01:18] <dooglus> oskude: now they will have to guess your user password AND your username - that makes it harder
[01:18] <cfa> i have Atheros
[01:18] <Stormx2> oskude: It would, but by the time you know how to sudo and rename and use terminal, you would have decided against it.
[01:19] <britishseapower> why doesnt firefox remember my settings?
[01:19] <cfa> rawtek what do u have
[01:19] <nickrud> cat /etc/groups | grep admin <--- my target
[01:19] <oskude> dooglus, ok, that sounds good
[01:19] <rawtek> cfa I tried to read the forums about wpa suipplicant but I don't get it
[01:19] <Stormx2> britishseapower: Why not?
[01:19] <britishseapower> i remove the bookmark bar exit and restart and it reappears
[01:19] <eternale1> ah there we go :D
[01:20] <nickrud> if I was interested, even
[01:20] <dooglus> oskude: of course, you're probably not running a ssh daemon anyway, so the point is moot - but if you do, you'll be a little safer
[01:20] <marlun> I'm confused how does relative paths work in linux, I'm working some with HTML and now I want to show a image, i do src="images/image.jpg" but the images does not show. The image is inside the images directory.
[01:20] <britishseapower> i am liking gnome tis nice....wish i had a larger display though
[01:20] <eternale1> just needed a little freenode inspiration
[01:20] <Stormx2> marlun: "./images/image.jpg"
[01:20] <sNoJaCk> has anyond heard of a problem with booting 2.6.12 kernels and above?  I cant get breezy working but hoary works fine.
[01:20] <Stormx2> marlun: using simply "image" is incorrect, even on a windows system.
[01:20] <marlun> Stormx2, tried that too =/
[01:20] <rawtek> cfa it said something about a config file I have to change
[01:20] <oskude> dooglus, actually i use ssh very often with my desktop and notebook...
[01:20] <dooglus> oskude: and the barrier that sudo puts in your way makes you notice that you're root, and may just stop you accidentally doing something stupid.  if you logged in as root you might forget you were root after a while
[01:20] <Stormx2> marlun: Check you've got the right address then
[01:20] <marlun> Stormx2, yea well it doesn't work with ./ added either. =/
[01:20] <Stormx2> marlun: make sure its not .JPG or .jpeg
[01:21] <cfa> well i am new to Debian, i always used RH or Centos or FreeBSD
[01:21] <rawtek> did those work well with wifi
[01:21] <cfa> yes
[01:21] <marlun> yes it was the same thing with the .css file before, but then i just moved it to the same directory as the html file.
[01:21] <Stormx2> marlun: Make sure the html file is saved in the right place, etc
[01:21] <kinkoblast> marlun: Remember, ubuntu is case sensitive.
[01:21] <Stormx2> mhmm
[01:21] <cfa> rawtek what chip set do u have
[01:21] <eternale1> brb
[01:22] <rawtek> cfa I have a belkin (Broadcom )
[01:22] <cfa> i have Atheros
[01:22] <rawtek> why did you leave BSD
[01:22] <vincent_> so if you drop a cat upside down it first dearches its back and then it arches his back with net result the paws are facing earth
[01:22] <oskude> well, i need root acces sometimes frequently so im lazy allways to use "sudo" do a made a password for it. and now i realized that "sudo su -" works too :)
[01:22] <cfa> u have a card or builtin
[01:22] <rawtek> card
[01:22] <oskude> do a made =  so i made
[01:22] <cfa> i didnt
[01:22] <rawtek> i have the net right now
[01:22] <marlun> kinkoblast, wasn't that either.. =/ can it have to do with the chmod of the file?
[01:22] <rawtek> just using wep vice wpa
[01:23] <dooglus> oskude: just "sudo -i" is best
[01:23] <Stormx2> oskude: ;-) Perfectly fine, but remember it breaks the GUI System rools
[01:23] <marlun> or maybe the images directory?
[01:23] <dooglus> oskude: then you get the root path, root home, etc.
[01:23] <kinkoblast> marlun: Are you using apache? Then yes.
[01:23] <Stormx2> dooglus: sudo -i ?
[01:23] <vincent_> I'm on this site and I click on the guestbook and then the whole of the mozille firefox closes, what's wrong with it then? what on earth causes a whole program to close?
[01:23] <kinkoblast> Marlun: try chmod +r (file)
[01:23] <cfa> i have add a dual boot to this laptop
[01:23] <dooglus> Stormx2: is that wrong?
[01:23] <oskude> dooglus, "sudo -i" = "sudo su -" ?
[01:24] <rawtek> which do you prefer
[01:24] <dooglus> Stormx2: try "echo $HOME" after each commnd...
[01:24] <Stormx2> dooglus: No, i just wondered what the -i option does
[01:24] <eternale1> i don't reccomend anyone in the middle of an unrar e process to ctrl-c it
[01:24] <eternale1> :\
[01:24] <bitblit> Is it possible to use WPA wireless encryption with Ubuntu? I have searched and can not find a guide...
[01:24] <kinkoblast> !!
[01:24] <ubotu> methinks ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[01:24] <cfa> while depends on what u want to use it for
[01:24] <dooglus> Stormx2: "man sudo" will tell you in detail, but basically it runs a login shell
[01:24] <kinkoblast> I just had a really good idea!
[01:24] <wolverian> bitblit, yes, see wiki.ubuntu.com and search for wpa
[01:24] <Stormx2> dooglus: ok :)
[01:24] <marlun> kinkoblast, that wasn't it either, everyone already had reading rights
[01:24] <cfa> i was going to try ubuntu as a desktop
[01:24] <rawtek> there is our sign...need to go back to the forums
[01:24] <Stormx2> vincent_: Not sure, maybe some embedded activex or some horrible horrible code?
[01:24] <kinkoblast> marlun: hmm... are images on in your browser?
[01:25] <bitblit> wolverian: thank you, I found it :)
[01:25] <rawtek> cfa what do you use BSD for
[01:25] <marlun> kinkoblast, yeah
[01:25] <pasadia> hello, how can I increase the size of my system font?
[01:25] <vincent_> what is activex?
[01:25] <Stormx2> vincent_: Evil
[01:25] <kinkoblast> !activex
[01:25] <ubotu> Wish i knew, kinkoblast
[01:25] <vincent_> like an evil spyware virus?
[01:25] <Stormx2> ubotu: no, activex is evil
[01:25] <ubotu> okay, Stormx2
[01:25] <oskude> pasadia, system -> preferences -> font
[01:26] <Grug> man i am so lovin ubuntu
[01:26] <kinkoblast> ... NO ONE TAUGHT UBOTU ABOUT ACTIVEX!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
[01:26] !lilo:*! services restart, please bear with us
[01:26] <Stormx2> Grug: Great :)
[01:26] <Stormx2> kinkoblast: Just have ;-)
[01:26] <jb__> i could use a suggestion... i can't adjust the volume - stuck to max or mute. i've tried a few other solutions posted on the forums with no luck. i'm getting deafened by king crimson as i write this.
[01:26] <Stormx2> !activex
[01:26] <ubotu> activex is, like, totally, evil
[01:26] <pasadia> oskude, I don't have gnome
[01:26] <Grug> hey - i program activex components :)
[01:26] <oskude> pasadia, oh, sry
[01:26] <cfa> rawtek i want to configure 2 things, builtin A/B/G, penabled WACOM
[01:26] <vincent_> so activex is only active in the linux world and not on windows?
[01:26] <rawtek> so where are you at now
[01:26] <rawtek> with wifi
[01:26] <kinkoblast> ubotu: ActiveX is a Microsoft technology that only works in IE on MS Windows.
[01:26] <Stormx2> vincent_: Opposite.
[01:26] <ubotu> ...but activex is already something else...
[01:26] <Grug> you can run com objects on linux
[01:26] <vincent_> but I opened this site from linux!
[01:26] <kinkoblast> !forget activex
[01:27] <ubotu> kinkoblast: i forgot activex
[01:27] <britishseapower> i have sound - but when i try and play an mp3 in xmms it says soundacrd not configured properly...i have installed the win32 codec pack
[01:27] <dooglus> vincent_: activex is a technology used in windows to make it easier for hackers to take over your machine
[01:27] <Grug> lol
[01:27] <Grug> nm
[01:27] <cfa> still working on both, install ubuntu yesterday
[01:27] <Stormx2> dooglus: Well put.
[01:27] <Grug> so much misInformation :)
[01:27] <kinkoblast> ubotu: ActiveX is a Microsoft technology that only works in IE on MS Windows.
[01:27] <ubotu> okay, kinkoblast
[01:27] <vincent_> I am at the global warming non sacrificial zone of the Netherlands
[01:27] <rawtek> ok do you have the drive cfa?
[01:27] <rawtek> driver that is
[01:27] <marlun> kinkoblast, does apache2 has some kind of switch for allowing or not allowing relative paths? =)
[01:27] <cfa> where is the make command
[01:27] <bam_> anyone using an ftp server?
[01:27] <kinkoblast> There. NPOV ActiveX def.
[01:28] <cfa> the driver?
[01:28] <rubic> errors during 5.04 -> 5.10 upgrade - can i just download and apply the .debs?   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4450
[01:28] <cfa> ok
[01:28] <rawtek> for the built in wifi
[01:28] <Grug> when i do an ls and i get filenames in *green*, what does that mean?
[01:28] <Stormx2> kinkoblast: NPOV?
[01:28] <Smaug> Hello
[01:28] <vincent_> so why does the program close in linux too then?
[01:28] <cfa> yes for the A/B/G
[01:28] <Stormx2> Grug: Thats usually their permissions, I think
[01:28] <krogoth64> what's the best way to access X remotely?
[01:28] <oskude> Grug, green = executable (i thin)
[01:28] <Grug> thanks storm - was just thinking that :)
[01:28] <Smaug> Is it possible to switch from grafical view (gnome) to text only?
[01:28] <kinkoblast> stormx2: Neutral Point Of View. I stole the term from Wikipedia :-)
[01:28] <Grug> hehe
[01:28] <krogoth64> I want to be able to leave applications running while I'm disconnected
[01:28] <rawtek> is it a linux drive
[01:28] <thrush> bam_: whats your question?
[01:28] <rawtek> r
[01:28] <cfa> but when i try to  make it doesnt run
[01:28] <Stormx2> kinkoblast: teehe
[01:28] <dooglus> krogoth64: probably using "ssh -X" - but what exactly do you want to do?
[01:28] <bam_> looking for a "simple" one to use
[01:28] <cfa> yes linux driver
[01:28] <rawtek> do you have a windows drive
[01:28] <krogoth64> firstly, I'm accessing it from windows :)
[01:28] <sobersabre> cfa what's the prob. from the start please ... ?
[01:28] <rawtek> r
[01:28] <vincent_> it is linux ubuntu
[01:29] <cfa> yes
[01:29] <krogoth64> I want to have the full desktop displayed on another computer
[01:29] <BlueEagle> Know what? I liked ubuntu so much that I replaced Gentoo with it on my server. :)
[01:29] <rawtek> have you ever heard of ndiswrapper
[01:29] <bam_> wondered if anyone had any recommendations
[01:29] <rawtek> itis awesome
[01:29] <dooglus> krogoth64: are these X programs you want to leave running?
[01:29] <Stormx2> bam_: You can use gftp, or you can "mount" the FTP server. Go to Places > Connect to server
[01:29] <thrush> bam_: openssh-server
[01:29] <krogoth64> yes
[01:29] <cfa> great, ok
[01:29] <vincent_> how can hackers take over your PC?
[01:29] <thrush> bam_: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:29] <Smaug> Is it possible to switch from grafical view (gnome) to text only?
[01:29] <Stormx2> bam_: Mounting it will make it work invisibly, as if it were on your computer ;-)
[01:29] <vincent_> only with activex?
[01:29] <BlueEagle> bam_: I've used proftp and found it to be functional enough.
[01:29] <krogoth64> I want to be able to leave azureus running overnight while my desktop is shut down, and then be able to reconnect to it
[01:29] <dooglus> krogoth64: where do you want them to display?  on the windows box or the linux box?
[01:29] <bam_> ok, cool
[01:29] <rawtek> so download ndiswrapper from the repositories
[01:29] <sobersabre> vincent_ no.
[01:29] <krogoth64> on windows, the desktop
[01:29] <fredforfaen> I cant get k3b to burn mp3's to audiocd...it complaints about some missing plugin , any ideas?
[01:29] <krogoth64> I have the cygwin x server
[01:29] <oskude> vincent_, there are MANY ways to do that
[01:30] <dooglus> krogoth64: interesting.  I don't know if it's possible.
[01:30] <cfa> i have the Atheros linux driver and i extract the tarball and i can not find the make command
[01:30] <Smaug> Can anyone help me?
[01:30] <vincent_> like 10s.. or 100s ways??
[01:30] <sobersabre> fredforfaen, idea: install some missing plugin
[01:30] <dooglus> krogoth64: if you could use a console program, then it would be easy.  but X apps, I don't know.
[01:30] <oskude> vincent_, 100s or more :)
[01:30] <kinkoblast> Vincent_: ActiveX lets web pages run arbatrary code on your computer. Like java, only windows-only.
[01:30] <rawtek> I have never confi'd with linux drives
[01:30] <Stormx2> Smaug: You could open terminal, otherwise I'm not sure.
[01:30] <fredforfaen> sobersabre well tell me what pluing to install then i will
[01:30] <rawtek> I am not smart enough
[01:30] <thrush> bam_: u were asking for ftp or ssh?
[01:30] <krogoth64> does ubuntu have good support for vnc?
[01:30] <vincent_> but now that I've installed linux I'm totally safe from activex?
[01:30] <rawtek> I habe to use the wrapper
[01:30] <dooglus> krogoth64: yes.  that would work.
[01:31] <sobersabre> fredforfaen , well, tell me what plugin is missing then i will
[01:31] <dooglus> krogoth64: but the apps would be displaying on your linux box then, not the windows box.
[01:31] <cfa> where r the wrappers
[01:31] <varsendagger> hey how do i configure xterm?
[01:31] <Stormx2> vincent_: Almost. if you install WINE and use IE as your browser, you arn't immune.
[01:31] <krogoth64> what do I need to get it up?
[01:31] <bam_> on my control panel on my website it gives an option to upload directly to a ftp server
[01:31] <vincent_> what the hell is WINE?
[01:31] <rawtek> you have synaptic up right?
[01:31] <kinkoblast> vincent_: unless you use IE in wine, yeh.
[01:31] <krogoth64> as long as they run on linux and I see them on windows I don't care what it does
[01:31] <dooglus> krogoth64: there's a "remote desktop" menu entry somewhere in the menus - that lets you set up the VNC server
[01:31] <varsendagger> !wine
[01:31] <Stormx2> vincent_: Wine is a windows emulator, kind of. It lets you run windows programs on linux.
[01:31] <bam_> if I run one on my box, then I can save scheduled backups to it
[01:32] <vincent_> I use Mozilla Firefox, so I am relatively safe
[01:32] <cfa> rawtek 1 sec
[01:32] <Smaug> Thanks Stormx2. I am running linux for the first time. I have tried redhat before, but I was never using it, but it was possible to switch somehow
[01:32] <krogoth64> and it runs the vnc server?
[01:32] <rawtek> cfa, k
[01:32] <oskude> krogoth64, i tried VNC (system -> preferences -> remote desktop) and it worked like a charm from another ubuntu machine
[01:32] <sobersabre> fredforfaen ... what's up ? :)
[01:32] <dooglus> krogoth64: it runs *a* vnc server - I think it's called "vino" or something like that.
[01:32] <Stormx2> Smaug: I'm not sure! There will be a way, I'm not aware of it though!
[01:32] <cfa> rawtek i have now
[01:32] <thrush> bam_: u prob want either pure-ftpd, or vsftpd if u apt-get either it should work fine for u
[01:32] <rawtek> ok search for ndiswrapper
[01:32] <Stormx2> Smaug: Basicly you need to shut down X, but I don't know how to do that
[01:32] <krogoth64> ok, I think I have it... I'll switch over the hardware and see how fast I can get back here :)
[01:32] <Smaug> Stormx2 ..I don't know what "X" is..
[01:32] <vincent_> is there also a commodoreamigaemulator?
[01:32] <Stormx2> !X
[01:32] <ubotu> Stormx2: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:33] <Ahmuck> ubuntu live cd does not have ntp sync installed ?
[01:33] <Stormx2> >.>
[01:33] <fredforfaen> sobersabre i cant burn audio cds in k3b
[01:33] <Stormx2> Smaug: X is the X Windowing System. It is basicly the graphical layer on top of text.
[01:33] <Ng> vincent_: UAE
[01:33] <Smaug> Stormx2 I use gnome
[01:33] <Stormx2> Smaug: GNOME sits on X
[01:33] <sobersabre> fredforfaen, you don't see any answer in my messages ?
[01:33] <Smaug> Stormx2 I see..
[01:33] <varsendagger> this is off topic but i have src and i can't do a ./configure  Make Make install
[01:34] <Stormx2> varsendagger: What happens?
[01:34] <dooglus> varsendagger: make is lower case
[01:34] <Toba> I hear macromedia flash 7 has a security hole
[01:34] <fredforfaen> sobersabre huh?
[01:34] <bam_> oh, off subject question, cleaning up unused libraries, is there a way to do this, and how?
[01:34] <varsendagger> wait i figured it out
[01:34] <Toba> how would I upgrade that?
[01:34] <kinkoblast> xfce is nice.
[01:34] <Smaug> Stormx2 Ok, thanks anyway, I'll keep trying to get my voice heard.. ;p
[01:34] <dnB> hi, can someone let me know how to allow only certain sites for browsing? just installed edubuntu, going to be used unsupervised by children
[01:34] <dooglus> bam_: clean up unused dependancies in general with 'debfoster'
[01:35] <varsendagger> i am using xubuntu should i install gcc or just cc?
[01:35] <Stormx2> Smaug: If you don't get an answer here, try ubuntuforums.org
[01:35] <Stormx2> varsendagger: Both ;-)
[01:35] <cfa> rawtek, thanx
[01:35] <Stormx2> varsendagger: Well try gcc first.
[01:35] <Smaug> Stormx2 Ah ok. thanks I'll try that one also
[01:35] <cfa> rawtek i will try to config now, BRB
[01:35] <vincent_> so what is basically the difference in between Windows, C. Amiga and Linux? is there a small quick summary?
[01:35] <rawtek> did you suck the driver in
[01:35] <Grug> dnB - you could go through MSN or AOL - they have very good parental controls
[01:35] <bam_> thanks
[01:35] <cfa> yes
[01:35] <dnB> Grug, no way to restrict in firefox?
[01:36] <Grug> not sure...
[01:36] <dnB> hrm, dont really want to use AOL or MSN if possible
[01:36] <Smaug> Does anyone know how to switch from Gnome to textview?
[01:36] <dnB> ;)
[01:36] <Grug> don't blame you :)
[01:36] <kvidell> Smaug: Ctrl+Alt+F1
[01:36] <vincent_> ok I guess my question is a little too complex
[01:36] <krogoth64> huh... it works
[01:36] <kvidell> ?
[01:36] <dooglus> vincent_: Windows is an operating system, linux is a kernel, C is a programming language and amiga is a kind of computer
[01:36] <bam_> debfoster, whats the syntax on that?
[01:36] <kvidell> Alt+F7 to get bac kto X
[01:36] <varsendagger> (ctl Alt F1)
[01:36] <krogoth64> does this mean I have to leave an X session logged in so I can connect with VNC?
[01:36] <Smaug> kvidell: Thank you!
[01:36] <dnB> amiga's had kick ass games ;D
[01:36] <Stormx2> Smaug: Told you ;-)
[01:36] <kinkoblast> dooglus: What about Amiga OS?
[01:37] <Smaug> Stormx2: Hehe thanks :)
[01:37] <vincent_> but surely windows has a kernel too?
[01:37] <dooglus> vincent_: what is basically the difference between the moon, a banana and dirk bogart?
[01:37] <cfa> rawtek should i restart the network service, they dont c the A/G
[01:37] <Trab> vincent_: windows has a kernal, but its really ugly
[01:37] <dooglus> kinkoblast: amiga os is an operating system
[01:37] <vincent_> like the face of Bill Gates (50)?
[01:37] <krogoth64> Trab: you've seen it?
[01:37] <wolverian> Trab, have you seen it?
[01:37] <varsendagger> which is better open box or fluxbox
[01:37] <rawtek> cfa once you installed the driver...
[01:37] <wolverian> heh.
[01:37] <Grug> windows kernel is very well designed actually.
[01:37] <kvidell> Smaug: no problem.
[01:37] <rawtek> did you go to network tools to enable
[01:37] <krogoth64> inquiring minds want to know
[01:38] <Stormx2> Grug: BLASPHAMY!
[01:38] <Trab> seen the windows kernal?
[01:38] <vincent_> so in weekends you are allowed to stay up after 12.00 PM, no?
[01:38] <Grug> yes
[01:38] <Trab> errr kernel
[01:38] <Trab> no, but ive had far too many issues with it to love it
[01:38] <cfa> rawtek i believe i did, after i found the driver i marked it anf then applied it
[01:38] <kinkoblast> vincent_: GNU/Linux and Windows are operating systems. They comunicate between software and hardware. Windows is propritary. That means you can not look at the source code to fix problems or make copies for your friends.
[01:38] <necator> where do files go that synaptic installs?
[01:39] <rawtek> ok now the system should see the a/g but will still need to activate in network tools
[01:39] <necator> like what folder.
[01:39] <Trab> thats kinda the point
[01:39] <Trab> of a deb
[01:39] <Smaug> kvidell: I was trying to start up quake2, but it didn't work.. So what is textview good for actually?
[01:39] <dooglus> necator: all over the place, wherever they belong.
[01:39] <Trab> they are told where to go
[01:39] <Stormx2> necator: To your computer in the means of installed-ness
[01:39] <varsendagger> ok i'm currentlu running xfce on top of ubuntu-base
[01:39] <Trab> so that it works best
[01:39] <Stormx2> necator: Why?
[01:39] <necator> so how would i locate a particular file?
[01:39] <rawtek> system..administration...networking
[01:39] <Stormx2> necator: Find.
[01:39] <dooglus> necator: you can "dpkg -L <packagename>" to see what it installed for any given package
[01:39] <necator> thx
[01:39] <kinkoblast> Vincent_: GNU/Linux, on the other hand, is Free Software, meaning that you have the freedom to change, distribute, or if you so desire have sex with it.
[01:39] <varsendagger> and i just apt-get installed xubuntu-desktop
[01:39] <oskude> krogoth64, i opened my pc1 with System->Preferences->Remote Desktop, [x]  allow other users... then on PC2 type "vncviewer <ip of pc2>:"
[01:39] <varsendagger> and it is going to take an hour to finish
[01:39] <varsendagger> why?
[01:40] <cfa> rawtek, yes and the card was not there
[01:40] <Stormx2> varsendagger: Because its big?
[01:40] <Grug> lol storm
[01:40] <Grug> i just installed windows ttf fonts and everything looks great now
[01:40] <rawtek> cfa, ok then the driver is not acting right
[01:40] <necator> is there any good terminal guides out there that can teach a beginner such useful commands as what u just mentioned dooglus
[01:40] <krogoth64> I'll need to reboot this computer with no display/input attached... will vnc log me in?
[01:40] <varsendagger> well what all will i be getting?
[01:40] <Grug> love netbeans too
[01:40] <Grug> so far :)
[01:40] <oskude> krogoth64, you dont need to reboot !
[01:41] <krogoth64> lol
[01:41] <dnB> anyone know if there is a ubuntu package for 'dansguardian' or something similar for good web content filtering?
[01:41] <vincent_> sex with something recursive acronymic must be fantastic
[01:41] <krogoth64> it happens
[01:41] <rawtek> you should have clicked on windows wireless drivers...clicked add driver and then sucked the driver in from a file location
[01:41] <bam_> dooglus, how do I use debfoster?
[01:41] <krogoth64> and I need to move the computer to another room today
[01:41] <Stormx2> vincent_: Sex: Emulating X
[01:41] <Stormx2> vincent_: Now there's a damn good recursive acronym
[01:41] <oskude> krogoth64, sorry, i got it know. dunno how to automate vnc-server to be run when boot-up, sry
[01:42] <vincent_> but only the name GNU/linux is recursive, no? the OS itself is not recursive??
[01:42] <krogoth64> would I have to have it automatically log in on boot?
[01:42] <genbie> anyone using balsa or evolution here plz?
[01:42] <dooglus> bam_: just run "sudo debfoster" (once you've installed the 'debfoster' package).  it will ask you a bunch of questions about whether you want to keep certain packages.  you can say 'y' or 'n' for yes and no, or "p" to uninstall the package and all its dependancies.  it will remember your answers
[01:42] <bam_> ahh, I see
[01:42] <dooglus> bam_: then, next time you run it, it won't ask so many questions - it'll just ask about the stuff you've installed since the last time you ran it.
[01:42] <cfa> rawtek, where would i c the windows wireless card
[01:42] <bam_> doh!
[01:43] <oskude> krogoth64, do you mean the pc that you want to use through vnc has no monitor ?
[01:43] <krogoth64> yes
[01:43] <necator> o id like to apologize to everyone who had to deal with my frusteration breakdown i was imature.
[01:43] <Alakala> How do I get the drivers for radeon-3d card to work?
[01:43] <oskude> krogoth64, and you want vnc-server to start on boot ?
[01:43] <Smaug> Stormx2: Is it possible to change screendepth from 32 to 16 or something?
[01:43] <krogoth64> I'm sure it has an init script
[01:43] <necator> it was yesterday im sorry.
[01:43] <Stormx2> Smaug: Yep. "xorg-config"
[01:43] <krogoth64> ubuntu isn't THAT bad I hope
[01:43] <oskude> krogoth64, sry, never done that :)
[01:43] <dooglus> bam_: if unsure, you can answer '?' and it will show a description of the package.  or answer 's' to skip the question.  it'll ask you again next time about any you skip
[01:43] <vincent_> recursive would mean files randomly popping up on your harddisks...
[01:43] <Alakala> I'm on breezy and if I try to install em, and reboot xserver, it doesn't work.
[01:43] <rawtek> i dnot undestand
[01:43] <krogoth64> I just don't know if I have to be logged in already for vnc to connect
[01:43] <Stormx2> Smaug: Wait, thats wrong =O hang on
[01:44] <Smaug> Stormx2: Would you guide me through the process? =] 
[01:44] <bam_> cool, now I can clean up all the garbage
[01:44] <oskude> krogoth64, hmm, i think so, cause vnc shows u a xwindows session...
[01:44] <steigweis> i have to install the original nvidia drivers for breezy now. must i remove the nvidia-glx package before that?
[01:44] <cfa> rawtek where would i have clicked windows wireless card and how would i get  the drives
[01:44] <krogoth64> vnc can't just connect directly to the X server, can it?
[01:44] <dooglus> krogoth64: I've not played with ubuntu's built in vnc server yet.  I used 'x11vnc' before I found out about vino.  That allows you to connect to a running X Windows session
[01:44] <Stormx2> Smaug: Yes, once i've found the damned command.
[01:44] <Smaug> Stormx2: I am really new to linux.. I don't know how to install anything etc.. I am running quake2 through wine and stuff..
[01:44] <dooglus> krogoth64: it can - if you use x11vnc
[01:44] <krogoth64> so I could get the gdm screen?
[01:44] <cfa> rawtek, in a menu or somewhere else
[01:44] <Stormx2> Smaug: Running quake through wine is good for a new user ;-)
[01:45] <oskude> krogoth64, you mean connect to a xserver and log in as a user... dunno, sry
[01:45] <vincent_> if you do that Smaug aren't you at risk of hackers taking over your PC?
[01:45] <Smaug> Stormx2: Even tho there are a quake linux version
[01:45] <rawtek> system...  administration.... windows wireless drivers, the drivers you have to obtain with the computer
[01:45] <dooglus> krogoth64: I don't know about that.  I logged in through the gdm screen, then ran "x11vnc" as the user.
[01:45] <krogoth64> I'll have to try this out and see if it works
[01:45] <Smaug> Vincent_ what would a hacker ever find on my pc?
[01:45] <rawtek> that is what ndiswrapper is
[01:45] <dabaR> ok, aptitude just installed flash on me...
[01:45] <krogoth64> if I allow vnc sharing in the ubuntu settings, it should work every time I log in
[01:45] <rawtek> a program to install windows .inf files onlinux
[01:46] <vincent_> don't you have personal pictures and/or documents?
[01:46] <vincent_> maybe some billing info of your company?
[01:46] <Smaug> vincent_ I am totally new, this is a fresh install :)
[01:46] <steigweis> i have to install the original nvidia drivers for breezy now. must i remove the nvidia-glx package before that?
[01:46] <Stormx2> Someone remind me how to reconfigure X :-\
[01:46] <Stormx2> I forget
[01:46] <oskude> !xcfg
[01:46] <ubotu> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:46] <Smaug> vincent_ I'm only doing it cos I dont know how to install it otherwise
[01:47] <vincent_> I'm having problems with running pdflatex, this only runs with wine?
[01:47] <cfa> ok, i get it, so get the windows wireless drives on a disk then add then by going to the admin - system - network setting
[01:47] <rawtek> cfa, I got to run for now....I will check back with you in an hour or so
[01:47] <cfa> ok
[01:47] <vincent_> does ultraedit run under linux too?
[01:48] <jorge_> Seveas: you here?
[01:48] <jorge_> Seveas: you here
[01:48] <vincent_> when text appears red does it mean people talk to me alone and not in the group?
[01:48] <|sam|> hi there, ACPI is not needed for desktops right?
[01:49] <jorge_> no, they talk to you but everyone sees it
[01:49] <jorge_> it's just so that you can see it easier
[01:49] <Stormx2> Still there, Smaug?
[01:49] <crimsun> |sam|: it can be and normally is for newer hardware
[01:49] <chopin> sorry
[01:49] <Smaug> Stormx2 yup
[01:49] <chopin> i just installed new relase of ubuntu
[01:49] <Stormx2> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:49] <chopin> i got an error on dpkg
[01:49] <jorge_> hey guys, if I have two 40gb drives, one master, one slave, can i install windows on one and ubuntu on the other
[01:49] <Stormx2> Smaug: What did you want to change?
[01:50] <Smaug> Stormx2: There are too many colors
[01:50] <|sam|> crimsun; thx
[01:50] <wolverian> jorge_, ye
[01:50] <wolverian> s
[01:50] <jorge_> thanks
[01:50] <wolverian> (damn enter key)
[01:50] <Smaug> Stormx2: My pc is too slow for winxp, therefor I run linux
[01:50] <jorge_> cause i just did, didnt know if i'd get errors
[01:50] <Stormx2> Smaug: OK. Go through that wizard. The current option is always selected, so best keep pressing enter untill you get to the colours section
[01:50] <Smaug> Stormx2: But linux had alot of pictures also
[01:50] <vincent_> Smaug: you are from Sweden!
[01:51] <Smaug> vincent_ I know.. ;p
[01:51] <chopin> anyone experienced problems on dpkg?
[01:51] <chopin> pls
[01:51] <vincent_> Hur str det till?
[01:51] <oskude> where is the "best" reposity to find "w32codecs" ?
[01:51] <Stormx2> Smaug: You can set colour depth in that wizard
[01:51] <Smaug> vincent_ Rtt schysst
[01:51] <kinkoblast> !w32codecs
[01:51] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/
[01:51] <Stormx2> Smaug: Options are: 24, 16, 15, 8, 4, 1
[01:52] <vincent_> that's not good I think
[01:52] <Stormx2> Smaug: 1 bit will be black and white hehe
[01:52] <jorge_> can someone tell ubuntu to tell me about adding new repositories
[01:52] <oskude> thnx
[01:52] <jorge_> *ubotu
[01:52] <Smaug> Stormx2 What wizzard are we talking about?
[01:52] <kinkoblast> !repos
[01:52] <ubotu> I heard repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[01:52] <vincent_> Smaug guess shit?
[01:52] <jorge_> thanks
[01:52] <Smaug> vincent_ va?
[01:52] <Stormx2> Smaug: Go to terminal, and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:53] <Stormx2> And press enter.
[01:53] <Sanne> jorge_: you can do: /msg ubotu questionterm
[01:53] <oskude> lol WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[01:53] <oskude>   w32codecs
[01:53] <Stormx2> oskude: ignore it.
[01:53] <Smaug> vincent_ Dutch?
[01:54] <vincent_> ja
[01:54] <oskude> Stormx2, but why does it say that ?
[01:54] <Smaug> vincent_ Oh, hoe is het?
[01:54] <vincent_> heel goed, dank u
[01:54] <Stormx2> oskude: You havn't configured the packages to be signed. Go to http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl if you are that bothered by it ;-)
[01:54] <vincent_> I've been teaching my neighbours some klaverjassen
[01:54] <Smaug> vincent_ Hehe :) Ik spreek wel een beetje nederlands hoor
[01:54] <vincent_> a classical dutch game
[01:55] <odie5533> Does python come standard with ubuntu? IE is it on the install disc?
[01:55] <Stormx2> My dutch exctends to this: "Boom Ja! Boom! Hallo!"
[01:55] <tritium> odie5533, yes
[01:55] <luca__> Hi :)
[01:55] <oskude> Stormx2, roger
[01:55] <Stormx2> luca__: hey!
[01:55] <vincent_> I would love to learn swedish and norwegian, I have two little books already from the "wat&hoe" series
[01:55] <siimo> the taskbar flashing thing has a bug for gaim in breezy :-/
[01:55] <Stormx2> vincent_: Learn japanese ;-)
[01:55] <vincent_> semeai, seki!
[01:55] <Stormx2> siimo: No. it waits for you to start typing, then goes away
[01:56] <vincent_> what the hell good does japanese do me?
[01:56] <Stormx2> vincent_: Anime is in japanese/
[01:56] <vincent_> that's like sooo far away man
[01:56] <siimo> Stormx2, , thats annoying it should wait for you to focus window and then go
[01:56] <Stormx2> siimo: I know.
[01:56] <oskude> is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ a "home" server (low download)
[01:56] <Stormx2> oskude: No idea
[01:56] <siimo> Stormx2, fixed :)
[01:56] <Stormx2> siimo: Was it in preferences?
[01:57] <vincent_> when you have had a psychose, is your life over then?
[01:57] <vincent_> do you have to wait for reincarnation before it starts getting fun again?
[01:57] <siimo> Stormx2, yah remove when conversation window gaims focus
[01:57] <siimo> lol
[01:57] <tritium> vincent_, please stay on topic
[01:57] <vincent_> sorry
[01:57] <oskude> Stormx2, but when "ubotu" says it, i hope its "trust worthy" :)
[01:58] <Stormx2> oskude: usually.
[01:58] <Stormx2> !activex
[01:58] <ubotu> rumour has it, activex is evil
[01:58] <oskude> lol
[01:58] <Stormx2> !windows
[01:58] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, windows is unnecessary, everything runs in Linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office or find an !alternative
[01:58] <oskude> LOL
[01:58] <Stormx2> ;-) Ubuto is always right
[01:58] <Juhaz> it's just a bot, everyone can enter those descriptions
[01:58] <Stormx2> Ubotu, infact. Ack!
[01:58] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Stormx2
[01:58] <Smaug> Stormx2: I have done all that now
[01:59] <thoreauputic> !run
[01:59] <Smaug> Stormx2: But nothing seem to have changed
[01:59] <oskude> Juhaz, you mean even i can "reprogram" ubotu ? omg
[01:59] <Smaug> Stormx2: Do I need to reboot?
[01:59] <vincent_> Smaug how come you speak dutch?
[01:59] <dnB> i just used apt to download install a bunch of new games for my lil bro and my son, will they be automatically added to the applications list under 'games'? or is there something i must do?
[01:59] <Stormx2> Smaug: What do you mean?
[01:59] <Stormx2> Smaug: No. Save any unsaved work
[01:59] <Juhaz> oskude, you can also "reprogram" the entire wikipedia, usually it's still trustworthy :)
[01:59] <Smaug> vincent_ Ik heb in hoorn gewonen
[01:59] <Stormx2> Smaug: Then press Ctrl + Alt + Backspace
[01:59] <oskude> Juhaz, ok :)
[02:00] <fanopnaic> dnB: should be done automatically
[02:00] <Smaug> Stormx2 DoI need to kill xchat?
[02:00] <Stormx2> Smaug: No.
[02:00] <oskude> dnB, type "killall gnome-applet" and wait for the menu to reload, and all games with menu settings will be there
[02:00] <hyakuhei> Evening all, I installed breezy a little while ago and networking, specifcially http, is being very very flakey my laptop didnt have a problem with kanotix, but with breezy nat'd http stuff gets mangled
[02:00] <oskude> dnB, sry it was "killall gnome-panel"
[02:00] <vincent_> heb je daar stage gelopen, daar in hoorn?
[02:01] <Stormx2> !nl
[02:01] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[02:01] <oskude> !sf
[02:01] <ubotu> oskude: What?
[02:01] <oskude> :)
[02:01] <Stormx2> ;-)
[02:01] <oskude> sf = suomi finland :)
[02:02] <oskude> oh wait
[02:02] <vincent_> so suomi means "our"?
[02:02] <oskude> !fi
[02:02] <ubotu> I guess fi is "Suomalaiset: Suomea puhutaan kanavalla #ubuntu-fi"
[02:02] <dnB> oskude, thank you :)
[02:02] <oskude> juhuu :)
[02:02] <oskude> dnB, your welcome
[02:02] <Grug> wow - netbeans is nice for being free
[02:02] <vincent_> smaug heb je stage gelopen in hoorn?
[02:03] <Smaug> vincent_ stage?
[02:03] <vincent_> traineeship
[02:03] <oskude> if some1 bored, watch demoscene.tv (hq channel) with me :)
[02:03] <Grug> hey guys, any other good irc channels for linux enthusiasts?
[02:03] <Smaug> Stormx2: My screenresolution changed drasticly
[02:03] <raphink> Grug: #kubuntu ? :)
[02:03] <Smaug> vincent_ I don't know :x
[02:03] <Grug> lol
[02:03] <oskude> !demoscene.tv
[02:04] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, oskude
[02:04] <raphink> Grug: #debutant if you speak french ;)
[02:04] <Grug> ok... what is the config file to change color bit depth in my current resolution?
[02:04] <dooglus> oskude: it seems to require activex?
[02:05] <oskude> hmm, mplayer freezed
[02:05] <dooglus> Grug: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:05] <vincent_> so in australia it is 14:00 now?
[02:05] <raphink> Grug: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:05] <Grug> tx
[02:05] <oskude> dooglus, copy the link and open in mplayer
[02:05] <raphink> argh too late !
[02:05] <Smaug> Stormx2?
[02:05] <dooglus> oskude: I'm on an XP box atm
[02:05] <oskude> dooglus, they use nullsoft video format (should be in w32codecs)
[02:05] <siimo> vincent_, depends on where
[02:05] <oskude> dooglus, get winamp player
[02:05] <moshe> how do I change the default display manager?
[02:05] <Smaug> s
[02:05] <moshe> I remember reading it can be done with a dpkg-reconfigure, but I can't remember exactly
[02:05] <Stormx2> Smaug: It did?
[02:05] <Smaug> Stormx2: Hehe
[02:05] <raphink> what is your current manager moshe ?
[02:05] <Smaug> Stormx2: I only have 3 resolutions to choose between now
[02:05] <dooglus> oskude: how can I find the link?
[02:05] <oskude> dooglus, sec
[02:05] <Smaug> Stormx2: And the colors look funny ^^
[02:06] <dooglus> oskude: I'm using IE, but it's all in Czech, so I can't even find "open page source" or whatever
[02:06] <siimo> vincent_, actually its 1400 in new zealand, in australia EDT is 1200 now
[02:06] <moshe> raphael, kdm
[02:06] <Stormx2> Smaug: Run that wizard again and add the other resolution. Mind that some resolutions and colour depths are incompatible
[02:06] <moshe> I want to switch to gdm and see how I like it.
[02:06] <raphink> moshe: and you want it to gdm ?
[02:06] <raphink> ok
[02:06] <Stormx2> dooglus: lmao.
[02:06] <oskude> dooglus, paste this to mplayer/winamp: http://mirror.zonart.net:8018/listen.pls
[02:06] <raphink> then you can use dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[02:06] <Smaug> Stormx2: Can I have that commandline again please?
[02:06] <Smaug> Stormx2: Everything died
[02:06] <raphink> for example
[02:06] <Stormx2> Smaug: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:07] <bob2> vincent_: ' TZ=Australia/Sydney date', in a terminal
[02:07] <C_J_Pro> In which directory are mysql databases stored on ubuntu?
[02:07] <bob2> C_J_Pro: /var/lib/mysql, I'd assume
[02:07] <Smaug> Stormx2: Thanks alot for your help
[02:07] <raphink> moshe: the kdm postinstall script grants you what DM you want to use
[02:07] <moshe> won't that just reconfigure kdm if I issue that command?
[02:07] <bob2> C_J_Pro: dpkg -L mysql-server | grep var
[02:07] <moshe> oic
[02:07] <Stormx2> Smaug: I hope i did help at all ;-) Anyway, good night all. Its 1 am here!
[02:07] <raphink> moshe: choosing a dm is not really a matter of whether you like it or not
[02:07] <C_J_Pro> >_<
[02:07] <Stormx2> !ie
[02:07] <ubotu> hmm... ie is Aye boyo! Head on over t' the #ubuntu-ie channel
[02:07] <raphink> moshe: it's rather a matter of what DE you use the most
[02:07] <C_J_Pro> Accidentally ran a rm -rf / when I mean rm -rf ./*
[02:07] <moshe> raphael, well, I use xfce
[02:07] <fanopnaic> oskude: fun, in vlc I don't have video, in xine I don't have sound, in mplayer I have both :) (with that demoscene.tv thingie)
[02:07] <moshe> :)
[02:07] <raphink> moshe: then use xdm
[02:07] <bob2> C_J_Pro: you're probably screwed then
[02:07] <C_J_Pro> stopped it quickly, and I need to recover the mysql databases
[02:08] <oskude> fanopnaic, :)
[02:08] <moshe> but my wife uses kde
[02:08] <vincent_> so linux has no 
[02:08] <vincent_> 
[02:08] <vincent_> 
[02:08] <vincent_>  signs in its ascii table
[02:08] <raphink> moshe: then keep kdm
[02:08] <moshe> and xdm doesn't let you choose sessions
[02:08] <_jason> has anyone here been able to setup horizontal scroll on their mouse (or at least get the tilt buttons to genereate different button numbers in xev than other buttons on the mouse)?
[02:08] <moshe> I want to see what gdm is like.
[02:08] <tarheelcoxn> C_J_Pro: respect the root!
[02:08] <raphink> moshe: there's no point at all in using gdm if you use xfce and your wife uses kde
[02:08] <oskude> fanopnaic, that demoscene.tv uses a nullsoft (closed) video format, and with mplayer it works with the w32codecs...
[02:08] <someotherguy> Hello.
[02:08] <raphink> moshe: you can launche gdm from console without having to set it as default
[02:08] <siimo> moshe, why dont you just switch to terminal kill kdm and load gdm =) if all you want to do is see what gdm is like
[02:09] <raphink> *lauch
[02:09] <moshe> heh
[02:09] <moshe> ok fine
[02:09] <moshe> thanks
[02:09] <raphink> that's what I was about to propose siimo  :)
[02:09] <someotherguy> Can anyone help me?
[02:09] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: just ask your question
[02:09] <someotherguy> Word.
[02:09] <raphink> with word? no way :p
[02:09] <oskude> :)
[02:10] <raphink> well depends
[02:10] <raphink> if it's kwork then yes
[02:10] <raphink> ;)
[02:10] <raphink> kword
[02:10] <raphink> I'm getting tired :(
[02:10] <oskude> for linux you need atleas double-word :)
[02:10] <raphink> thanks tarheelcoxn
[02:10] <dooglus> oskude: do you know if winamp 3 is available somewhere?  winamp 5 sucks
[02:10] <raphink> I think I shall go to bed rather though tarheelcoxn
[02:10] <someotherguy> I just installed breezy from one of the pressed cd's on an old p2-500mhz, with 256 megs of ram. It installed alright, but now when it's booting, when gnome tries to load I get a black screen and I get a Long-short-short-short beep code.
[02:10] <LathropWells> I Love Ubuntu!
[02:11] <oskude> dooglus, dunno. and dunno if winamp3 has the video codec...
[02:11] <someotherguy> I guess the question is "wtf?"
[02:11] <ubuntu> waaaaaaaaa
[02:11] <ubuntu> hello
[02:11] <oskude> LathropWells, me too :)
[02:11] <ubuntu> mother fockers
[02:11] <ubuntu> xd
[02:12] <raphink> hmm
[02:12] <raphink> interesting point of view on life
[02:12] <necator> oskude what video codec do you need?
[02:12] <raphink> too late thoreauputic
[02:12] <oskude> oh, the next demo is hard, but nice
[02:12] <Korio> how do i get XDM to work in ubuntu?
[02:12] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: you might try a server install
[02:12] <thoreauputic> raphael: indeed
[02:12] <oskude> necator, none, why u ask ?
[02:12] <rawtek> cfa, how are things coming
[02:12] <raphink> Korio: you install it
[02:12] <Korio> raphink, o rly? well it doesnt start
[02:12] <necator> oskude i heard you say something about you and dooglus dont know if winamp had the codec.
[02:12] <someotherguy> Is the p2 too gutless to run it full install?
[02:12] <necator> oskude so i was curious what you were trying to do i might be able to help.
[02:12] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: when you boot from the pressed CD, type "server" at the prompt
[02:12] <jorge_> how can I make it so my icons are automatically organized
[02:12] <raphink> Korio: then you dpkg-reconfigure it
[02:12] <fanopnaic> oskude: ah ok, I forgot to register the codecs after installing gstreamer-pitfdll. now it works in xine too (didn't know that xine uses gstreamer anyway)... vlc still a no go (only uses its own codecs methinks)
[02:12] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: it might run xubuntu nicely
[02:12] <oskude> necator, the nullsoft video codec, forgot the name
[02:13] <Korio> raphink, that only re-installs it... i have always had this problem with ubuntu
[02:13] <LathropWells> Beeep- beep beep beep!     here is the link http://www.computerhope.com/beep.htm
[02:13] <necator> oskude do you have winamp?
[02:13] <jorge_> how can I install gdm themes, the ones where you log in
[02:13] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: do the server install and then install the xubuntu-desktop package
[02:13] <kinkoblast> !winvlin
[02:13] <Korio> raphael, you must be the smartest kid on the block..
[02:13] <raphink> hmm how about dpkg-reconfigure gdm Korio ?
[02:13] <necator> oskude xmms is like a linux clone of winamp its worth a try.
[02:13] <Smaug> !winvlin
[02:13] <Korio> raphink, *
[02:13] <jorge_> how can I install a gdm theme (login theme)
[02:13] <raphink> Korio: :p it's late here :p
[02:13] <Korio> raphael, i dont have gdm
[02:13] <Korio> raphink ;p
[02:14] <someotherguy> It's either a memory failure, or a graphics failure...despite the fact that it was happily running xp a few hours ago.
[02:14] <oskude> necator, i have it working (demoscene.tv) on mplayer, the question was if winamp3 (on windows) has the video codec...
[02:14] <Smaug> If I choose all available screenresolutions from the xconf list, will there be a problem?
[02:14] <tarheelcoxn> tarheelcoxn: another option you might try is booting into single-user mode and removing ubuntu-desktop
[02:14] <tarheelcoxn> err
[02:14] <kinkoblast> I wrote a parageaph into Ubotu. Check it out at winvlin. Ignore the last bit, I had to make some sort of joke.
[02:14] <necator> oskude ah i  c.
[02:14] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: another option you might try is booting into single-user mode and removing ubuntu-desktop
[02:14] <LathropWells> Realplayer must be run as root? - is there a lib that totem can use for ram  pl  streams?
[02:14] <thoreauputic> jorge_: you just drag it onto the login customising dialogue ( see system admin in menu)
[02:14] <oskude> jorge_, System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup
[02:15] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: It doesn't seem to want to let me boot at all.
[02:15] <jorge_> thanks
[02:15] <necator> jorge_ go to system > administrator > login screen setup
[02:15] <thoreauputic> jorge_: Login Screen Setup
[02:15] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: o.0
[02:15] <necator> beat me too it oskude :p
[02:15] <Smaug> If I choose all available screenresolutions from the xconf list, will there be a problem?
[02:15] <oskude> necator, :)
[02:15] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: can you boot from the CD again?
[02:15] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Well, it'll boot, but right after it finishes loading and before it goes into x, the screen goes black and it gives me the beeps.
[02:15] <tarheelcoxn> or from the liveCD?
[02:15] <switchcat> im installing server ubuntu.. and have the three kernels to choose from, how do i know which to choose?
[02:15] <someotherguy> someotherguy: Yes, I can.
[02:15] <bob2> switchcat: the default
[02:15] <sunshine82> im meant to have a folder called usr/src/linux but the linux file is unknow how do i get another linux file
[02:15] <someotherguy> Eerrrr
[02:15] <jorge_> how can i install a splash screen
[02:15] <bob2> if you have no idea, use the default
[02:15] <thoreauputic> someotherguy: beeps suggest hardware issues
[02:15] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Yes, I can.
[02:16] <oskude> jorge_, and then the "themed greeter" tab, just click "install new theme" and select the downloaded file
[02:16] <raphink> switchcat: what is your proc?
[02:16] <LathropWells> Smaug - nah - you can toggle from new res using ctrl+alt+numpad + or numpad -
[02:16] <bob2> sunshine82: what are you trying to do?
[02:16] <switchcat> pIII i think
[02:16] <necator> system > prerfences > splash screen jorge_
[02:16] <potus> does anyone have any idea why my ssh daemon is dropping the connection as soon as i enter a username? (openssh-server)?
[02:16] <someotherguy> I'll go re-seat my ram and video card...you never know.
[02:16] <raphink> switchcat: and what choice are you given?
[02:16] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: do you know what single-user mode is?
[02:16] <potus> yet i can use the same username for ftp.
[02:16] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Nope.
[02:16] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: okay... then just re-install
[02:16] <Smaug> Lathropwells: I wanted to change screendepth, and I did. But then my screenresolution went huge, and I want my old back, and I don't know wich one that was
[02:16] <tarheelcoxn> using "server" at the first prompt
[02:16] <dooglus> this is a little offtopic - but does anyone know where I might find an everquest IRC channel?
[02:16] <necator> afk
[02:16] <dnB> can someone help me out? im trying to setup iptables, using a tutorial that says to type "iptables-save > /etc/sysconfig/iptables" however that isnt working
[02:17] <jorge_> necator: i dont have splashscreen under preferences
[02:17] <switchcat> linux-386 image-386 and umage 2.6-12.9 -386
[02:17] <sunshine82> bob2 im tryin to set up my ebcam this the site im using http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Webcam-HOWTO.html
[02:17] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: When I first got the cds, I booted off the live cd and it gave me this problem, but I figured installing the full install would fix it.
[02:17] <switchcat> er image too
[02:17] <bob2> dnB: that tutorial is for redhat
[02:17] <raphink> oh yeah right
[02:17] <bob2> dnB: /usr/share/doc/iptables/README.Debian.gz
[02:17] <sunshine82> bob2 my webcam
[02:17] <raphink> switchcat: I usually choose linux-386
[02:17] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: That's why I'm not led to believe that re-installing it would make a difference.
[02:17] <dnB> bob2, you dont know the correct command for it?
[02:17] <fanopnaic> switchcat: take linux-386
[02:17] <LathropWells> Smaug - you can use what you like and edit away the rest.
[02:17] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: you may have a problem with Xorg
[02:17] <raphink> it doesn't really matter anyway
[02:18] <dnB> ok thanks bob2 ill go rtfm ;)
[02:18] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: you'll likely have to tinker to get any gui to work properly
[02:18] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: any other gui's I could boot to installed by default?
[02:18] <switchcat> what ARE the other ones for?
[02:18] <oskude> !ubotu
[02:18] <fanopnaic> I must say the video quality of this nullsoft video thing is quite good considering it only consumes 1Mbps
[02:18] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[02:18] <Smaug> Lathropwells: I don't know wich one I liked
[02:18] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: perhaps kde?
[02:18] <kinkoblast> Is there a greeter theme that matches xfce/xubuntu?
[02:18] <Smaug> Lathropwells: Before it went like this
[02:18] <dooglus> dnB: dnB what error so you see?
[02:18] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: very doubtful
[02:18] <LathropWells> dooglus - google ircspy.com or .net i don't remember
[02:18] <potus> Anyone got any idea about my ssh problem?  drops connection after entering a valid username?
[02:18] <Smaug> Lathropwells: But will it be OK if I choose to incklude them all?
[02:18] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: it'll be easier for us (or someone else) to help you if you can first get an install working
[02:18] <bob2> sunshine82: what chipset does it have?
[02:19] <bob2> potus: can you ssh from localhost on that machine?
[02:19] <Grug> my god - it is incredibly difficult to simply install an nvidia driver
[02:19] <thoreauputic> tarheelcoxn: 500mhz 256MB should handle gnome OK ( not fast but OK)
[02:19] <Grug> this could take a while :)
[02:19] <potus> bob2: cant tell now. i rebooted by ssh. now i cant sshback in..  altho the ftp and webserver are up.
[02:19] <Smaug> Grug, I got it from a selfinstalling package, just for ubuntu
[02:19] <Grug> yeah?
[02:19] <potus> the ssh comes up login: once i enter anything it just disconnects me.. without prompting for password.
[02:19] <Smaug> Grug: Yeah, I'm totally new to linux
[02:19] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: do you get a login prompt after the beeping?
[02:19] <Grug> where did you get it?
[02:19] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: or do you just get nothing?
[02:19] <kinkoblast> Is there a greeter theme that matches xfce/xubuntu?
[02:19] <LathropWells> Smaug - Smaug - you can but i would be conservative - some monitoers (mine included) hate anything above 1280X1024
[02:19] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Nah, it just freezes.
[02:20] <Smaug> Grug: I got it from a link from ubuntu website
[02:20] <sunshine82> bob2 divio n802
[02:20] <Grug> ok
[02:20] <Grug> thanks
[02:20] <someotherguy> The little flashing underscore in the corner stops flashing.
[02:20] <dooglus> LathropWells: it looks like ircspy.com is for finding files available on IRC, not for finding channels
[02:20] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: The little flashing underscore in the corner stops flashing.
[02:20] <thoreauputic> kinkoblast: please don't repeat - have you looked at xfce.look.org or whatever it's called ?
[02:20] <Smaug> Lathropwells, but it won't burn up will it?
[02:20] <LathropWells> dooglus - nah it is the best thing on the net for irc channels even company info
[02:20] <bob2> potus: have you touched anyssh settings at all, on the client or server?
[02:21] <kinkoblast> thoeauputic: Um... a little more specific?
[02:21] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: I'll go re-seat the ram and the video card, just to be sure it's not just being retarded.
[02:21] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: fair enough
[02:21] <LathropWells> Smaug - accepting the defaults is usually 1024X768 and that should be okayy for even the oldest monitors.
[02:21] <oskude> ubotu demoscene.tv is a cool place to get the best demos as video stream, needs w32codecs to encode
[02:21] <ubotu> oskude: okay
[02:22] <oskude> !demoscene.tv
[02:22] <ubotu> hmm... demoscene.tv is a cool place to get the best demos as video stream, needs w32codecs to encode
[02:22] <potus> bob2: idk maybe apt-get did on all this advanture of installing ISPConfig.    what would likely be the  cause/file?
[02:22] <oskude> hehe :)
[02:22] <Smaug> Lathropwells: That is what I use now. but everything is huge
[02:22] <bob2> potus: ispconfig soundslike some cpanel-like monstrosity, yes?
[02:22] <thoreauputic> kinkoblast: start here I guess http://www.xfce.org/index.php
[02:22] <LathropWells> smaug - if you are still concerned FCC.GOV aand the FCC ID# from the back panel will give you specs if the manufacturer isn't easy to find.
[02:22] <wondering> does anyone here have kdevelop "designer" crash as soon as you try to open it?
[02:23] <wondering> I can get all of the other Kdevelop apps to open fine
[02:23] <bob2> sunshine82: 'sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)', in a terminal
[02:23] <wondering> but not designer
[02:23] <sunshine82> bob2 any ideas
[02:23] <bob2> wondering: #kubuntu may no more
[02:23] <LathropWells> Smaug - what happens with ctrl+alt+   numpad +
[02:23] <bob2> er, know
[02:23] <potus> bob2: a webbased one, yes; i stopped it.. took program outta contrab. and rebooted.
[02:23] <Smaug> Lathropwells: Ok, I'll try figure it out.. Thanks alot for your help!
[02:23] <wondering> good point bob2
[02:23] <oskude> !bill
[02:23] <ubotu> oskude: Are you on ritalin?
[02:23] <wondering> but I am runing it in Ubuntu
[02:23] <Korio> is the universe for breezy up and running now?
[02:23] <oskude> !gates
[02:23] <ubotu> oskude: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[02:23] <wondering> with just the dependencies installed
[02:23] <oskude> lol
[02:23] <wondering> no kubuntu desktop
[02:23] <LathropWells> Samuag - we are here to help 24/7
[02:23] <wondering> brb
[02:24] <oskude> !software_patent
[02:24] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, oskude
[02:24] <sunshine82> bob2 that done
[02:24] <oskude> :)
[02:24] <LathropWells> I love Ubuntu!  - (oops did i say that already?)
[02:24] <Smaug> Lathropwells: Thanks :)
[02:24] <Grug> wait till you try and install nvidia drivers :)
[02:24] <potus> i got an idea
[02:24] <myrth_> hi
[02:24] <Smaug> grug wait
[02:24] <potus> apt-get remove openssh-server
[02:24] <oskude> roger
[02:24] <potus> apt-get install openssh-server
[02:24] <potus> should fix =)
[02:24] <dabaR> LathropWells: you are where 24/7?
[02:24] <JasonOfEarth> hey does anyone know what package contains the X11 file flipped_gray? Or how to find out?
[02:24] <bob2> sunshine82: then the driver should compile
[02:25] <Aurora> i love ubuntu too but why is apache giving me forbidden messages!
[02:25] <myrth_> i've just installed ubuntu on my laptop :)
[02:25] <potus> bob2: sound right?
[02:25] <bob2> JasonOfEarth: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:25] <glick> hey what does it mean in bittorrent when there are 0 seeders?
[02:25] <bob2> Aurora: when doing what?
[02:25] <bob2> glick: that no one currently active has the whole file
[02:25] <myrth_> how do i install KDE?
[02:25] <Aurora> trying to request any page through it
[02:25] <glick> ok thanks bob2
[02:25] <JasonOfEarth> excellent thanks bob2
[02:25] <bob2> glick: people may have enough non-overlapping parts spread amongst the rest to reconstruct it, tho
[02:25] <dooglus> glick: it means that nobody has the whole file.
[02:25] <Aurora> i configured it to use a folder in my homedir as a document root
[02:25] <bob2> myrth_: install kubuntu-desktop
[02:25] <bob2> Aurora: that's silly
[02:25] <LathropWells> dabaR -  i meant #ubuntu        dabaR of course is here more than anyone else.
[02:25] <bob2> Aurora: but the issue is probably that you didn't set o=rx permissions on every dir between / and your doc root
[02:25] <dabaR> LathropWells: read me in one line, eh?
[02:25] <myrth_> err.. what's default password for root?
[02:26] <Aurora> hmm, okay
[02:26] <raphink> there's no default passwd for root myrth_
[02:26] <raphink> myrth_: by default the root account is not activated
[02:26] <dabaR> myrth_: its your password
[02:26] <sunshine82> bob2 i wish it was that easy im getinn this error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4451
[02:26] <oskude> myrth_, sudo ask your password
[02:26] <bob2> myrth_: wiki.ubuntu/com/RootSudo
[02:26] <Aurora> i dont see why it needs +x and stuff on parent dirs of the doc root though
[02:26] <myrth_> su - without password says authentication failure, and also default user password doesn't work
[02:26] <bob2> Aurora: ok, but that's the way it is
[02:26] <dnB> anyone know how i can get a new default squid.conf?
[02:27] <raphink> !tell myrth_ about sudo
[02:27] <Smaug> Grug: I have this package: "automatix-ubuntu_v3.1.1.tar.gz"
[02:27] <dooglus> Aurora: if a directory doesn't have +x, it can't be opened
[02:27] <bob2> myrth_: the installer did explain this to you
[02:27] <Aurora> nope, the permissions are set
[02:27] <Grug> thankx smaug
[02:27] <bob2> dnB: lessone #1: backup config files before touching them
[02:27] <Smaug> Grug: But I couldn't find it while searching for it :x
[02:27] <dachnaz_> Hello.
[02:27] <Seveas> Grug, you'd better throw that out befoure you wreck your system with it
[02:27] <thoreauputic> kinkoblast: a bit of googling found this >>  http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/gdm-xfce/
[02:27] <Smaug> Grug: But it is ther somewhere :x
[02:27] <dnB> bob2, definitely :P
[02:27] <Grug> either could i...
[02:27] <dachnaz_> Quick question. ^^
[02:27] <bob2> dnB: also, sudo dpkg -P --force-depends squid ; sudo apt-get install squid
[02:27] <Grug> yeah i'm gonna give up on drivers for a while :)
[02:27] <dnB> bob2, thanks ;)
[02:27] <Smaug> Grug: Hehe ;)
[02:27] <Seveas> Smaug, I mean
[02:27] <bob2> Aurora: what is your docroot set at?
[02:27] <Grug> it's not like windows one-click setup.exe
[02:27] <Grug> :)
[02:27] <dachnaz_> How do I change the root password or sudo or login as root?
[02:27] <Smaug> Seveas: What?
[02:27] <LathropWells> suk, - software patents - jeez was reading that amazon.com got a patent for "one click ordering."  - no idea if they are going to enforce it or just keep it away from patent trolls
[02:27] <Seveas> Smaug, don't use automatix
[02:28] <Seveas> it's just another crappy script
[02:28] <thoreauputic> !tell dachnaz_ about root
[02:28] <dabaR> Grug: mostly if you ave to insatll a driver in windows, teh installation is not one click.
[02:28] <Smaug> Seveas: Why? It's my lifesaviour :)
[02:28] <lizardcry> where can i get kernel 2.6.13 for ubuntu 5.10?
[02:28] <Kman^> !tell Kman^ about root
[02:28] <dabaR> Grug: why do you always refer windows?
[02:28] <Aurora> eek
[02:28] <bob2> dachnaz_: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:28] <Grug> well, i've never seen otherwise dabar... you have advice for installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu?
[02:28] <Seveas> then don't come whining when it screws over your system
[02:28] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: any luck?
[02:28] <bob2> lizardcry: you can't, simply
[02:28] <bob2> lizardcry: why do you want it?
[02:28] <Smaug> Seveas: Please..
[02:28] <bob2> Grug: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:28] <LathropWells> lol@Seaveas
[02:28] <sunshine82> bob2 what u think
[02:29] <Grug> ahhh - thanks bob - i'll check it out
[02:29] <codecaine> can someone tell me how my VOIP device behind my netgear router is receiving phone calls when I don't have any port forwarding in the router for it, how does this work?
[02:29] <Smaug> Seveas: I got it from ubuntuforums
[02:29] <lizardcry> bob2, I believe I would then be able to run ubuntu on my amd64.
[02:29] <Seveas> Smaug, that does not mean it does not suck
[02:29] <dachnaz_> Ah ha. That makes sense. Thankee.
[02:29] <lizardcry> bob2, it freezes hard
[02:29] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Nope, it goes through all the module initialization and everything, with the progress bar and such, then the screen clears to the flashing underscore in the top left, it flashes a few times, then freezes and starts beeping.
[02:29] <lizardcry> bob2, fresh install
[02:29] <necator> what is metacity? does ubuntu breezy have it? i see it mentioned on gnome-look.or
[02:29] <Seveas> there's a lot of crap on the forums
[02:29] <bob2> lizardcry: does trying noapic/nolapic/acpi=off help? (kernel boot options)
[02:29] <Smaug> Seveas: But I'm totally new to linux. I'm sorry if I use something you don't like. But I trusted the people at ubuntuforums
[02:29] <bob2> necator: yes, it's the default window manager for gnome
[02:29] <Aurora> bob2,  DocumentRoot    /home/aurora/Projects/
[02:29] <lizardcry> bob2, did that
[02:29] <Seveas> there's good stuff too, but you need to be careful
[02:29] <codecaine> window manager
[02:29] <bob2> necator: ie it draws window borders
[02:29] <JasonOfEarth> bob2 is my hero!
[02:29] <bob2> lizardcry: even all 3 doesn't help?
[02:30] <lizardcry> bob2, i'm on gentoo now
[02:30] <thoreauputic> necator: it's the default underlying window manager for gnome
[02:30] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: can you type CTRL+ALT+F2 and get a prompt?
[02:30] <lizardcry> bob2, I swear. I did ALL 3
[02:30] <bob2> Aurora: and the output of 'ls -ld /home/{,aurora/{,Projects}}' to #flood
[02:30] <dachnaz_> Here's another pop quiz: Where can I find SSHD? Or is there a better way to access this from another location?
[02:30] <Fr0Gs> where do i get the latest worken fglrx drives
[02:30] <bob2> lizardcry: how odd
[02:30] <Fr0Gs> where do i get the latest worken fglrx drivers
[02:30] <someotherguy> Should I try it while it's initializing, or right now while it's frozen?
[02:30] <bob2> dachnaz_: install the openssh-server package
[02:30] <lizardcry> bob2, it's making me ill at my stomach
[02:30] <oskude> ubout tell oskude about demoscene.tv
[02:30] <LathropWells> JasonOfEarth, - yep mine too there are some great people here,
[02:30] <necator> so changing my "metacity" would change how my folders look?
[02:30] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: right now
[02:30] <bob2> Fr0Gs: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:30] <oskude> ubotu tell oskude about demoscene.tv
[02:30] <bob2> necator: no, window borders
[02:30] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: k, brb
[02:30] <lizardcry> bob2, i have an ati 9800
[02:30] <tarheelcoxn> dachnaz_: openssh-server
[02:30] <bob2> lizardcry: that shouldn't matter
[02:31] <Korio> which repos do i need to ad to get mplayer?
[02:31] <necator> so metacity and gtk 2.x then do the same thing?
[02:31] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Yes, it gave me a login prompt.
[02:31] <bob2> lizardcry: you've compiled a kernel from scratch before?
[02:31] <Seveas> !forget demoscene.tv
[02:31] <ubotu> i forgot demoscene.tv, Seveas
[02:31] <bob2> necator: no
[02:31] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: that's a good sign.
[02:31] <micropa1> I'm trying to do a multiseat install with the newest ubuntu, however nothing happens when I press enter on the "configure a multiseat system" in the installer. Any tips?
[02:31] <lizardcry> bob2, similar probs in gentoo, but disappeared after upgrade to 2.6.13 kernel
[02:31] <bob2> necator: I keep saying, "window borders", you keep hearing "widgets"
[02:31] <LathropWells> korio - univers community supported
[02:31] <lizardcry> bob2, gentoo ... i compile everythinh
[02:31] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: you have a problem with xorg
[02:31] <necator> bob2 im new at all this i dont really knwo the terms of differences of any of it :p
[02:31] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: login at that login prompt
[02:31] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: brb
[02:32] <dachnaz_> bob2: Where can I find this package?
[02:32] <bob2> necator: window borders = window title bar, border, resize handles, etc
[02:32] <Korio> LathropWells, weird I have that one enabled and yet i dont see mplayer
[02:32] <dnB> does anyone know how i can do the equivalent to "chkconfig squid on"
[02:32] <bob2> necator: widgets = buttons, text in the window, file selection screens, etc
[02:32] <necator> so gtk does widgets?
[02:32] <bob2> dachnaz_: you've never installed a package in ubuntu?
[02:32] <thoreauputic> Korio:  multiverse
[02:32] <necator> and metacity does borders
[02:32] <tarheelcoxn> dachnaz_: adept
[02:32] <bob2> dachnaz_: squid runs by default when installed
[02:32] <bob2> necator: more or less
[02:32] <sunshine82> bob2 what u think
[02:32] <Korio> thoreauputic, got that too
[02:32] <thoreauputic> !info mplayer-386
[02:32] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: There, logged in.
[02:32] <necator> do either of those control icons?
[02:32] <dnB> bob2, thanks ;)
[02:32] <Grug> So video drivers seem very difficult to install... is it any easier to install Audigy 2 drivers?
[02:32] <ubotu> mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3729 kB, Installed size: 8268 kB
[02:33] <bob2> sunshine82: looks like the driver itself is broken
[02:33] <LathropWells> thoreauputic, - mplayer is non-free?
[02:33] <bob2> Grug: video drivers are trivial
[02:33] <funkyHat> necator, no
[02:33] <thoreauputic> Korio: apt-cache search mplayer
[02:33] <funkyHat> necator, that's nautilus
[02:33] <dachnaz_> No, bob2, never installed one on Ubuntu.
[02:33] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: now cd /var/log
[02:33] <thoreauputic> Lathiat: I assume it's about codecs etc
[02:33] <bob2> Korio: it's in multiverse, wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:33] <andreiutz> hello
[02:33] <bob2> dachnaz_: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[02:33] <Korio> mga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source)
[02:33] <Korio> thats what i find
[02:33] <andreiutz> what is the root passwd for the ubuntu live cd ??
[02:33] <thoreauputic> oops LathropWells that was fro you not Lathiat
[02:33] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: done.
[02:33] <Grug> trivial?  compiling and interface to the kernel is trivial?  wow... now I'm *really* afraid to ask about sound drivers lol
[02:33] <Seveas> andreiutz, there is none
[02:33] <Aurora> bob2, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/427294
[02:33] <Seveas> !tell andreiutz about root
[02:34] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: ls should show you that there's a log for Xorg
[02:34] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Irritatingly enough the computer is in the other room, so I have to keep running around.
[02:34] <bob2> Aurora: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:34] <bob2> Grug: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:34] <dnB> when typing "sudo squid restart" i get the msg "/etc/dansguardian/languages" any ideas? :P
[02:34] <bob2> Grug: installing them doesn't require any compilation
[02:34] <dachnaz_> bob2, Thanks.
[02:34] <dnB> woops
[02:34] <dnB> "squid already running"
[02:35] <bob2> dnB: do you mean 'sudo invoke-rc.d squid restart' or 'sudo /etc/init.d/squid restart'?
[02:35] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: in that case, what you want to do is this:
[02:35] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Xorg.0.log
[02:35] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log > xorg.log
[02:35] <bob2> Aurora: guess we need the end of apache2' error.log and your /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default
[02:35] <dnB> bob2, lol i have no idea
[02:35] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: then post xorg.log somewhere where we can see it
[02:35] <bob2> dnB: the command you gave will more or less do nothing useful
[02:35] <Korio> deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse i have that in sources.list and yet i cant find mplayer
[02:35] <bob2> dnB: either of the ones I mentioned will restarts
[02:36] <bob2> Korio: get rid of that, for a start
[02:36] <Aurora> where would error.log be?
[02:36] <dnB> bob2, thanks again, you help helpful man
[02:36] <Korio> bob2,  why?
[02:36] <bob2> Korio: then actually read the page I pointed you at, and enable the universe repository
[02:36] <bob2> er, multivser
[02:36] <Grug> well i guess i'm going to try that link bob - thanks
[02:36] <bob2> dnB: np
[02:36] <Aurora> and whats rootsudo got to do with anything?
[02:36] <bob2> Aurora: /var/log/apache2/
[02:36] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Well, it said access denied, which makes me assume I have to su first.
[02:36] <bob2> Aurora: that would be me sucking, sorry
[02:36] <Aurora> ahh
[02:36] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: before you go
[02:36] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Also, how could I post it?
[02:36] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: do you have a webspace to post it to?
[02:36] <someotherguy> Yup
[02:37] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: perfect
[02:37] <krogoth64> do the default packages for the dhcp and bind servers chroot them?
[02:37] <Korio> bob2, that link was for warty, and i dont run gnome
[02:37] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: upload xorg.log to your webspace
[02:37] <bob2> krogoth64: bind9, yes, dunno about dhcp (there's more than one of them)
[02:37] <bob2> Korio: awesome
[02:37] <bob2> Korio: #kubuntu, I guess (and it' snot just for warty)
[02:37] <Korio> bob2, i run xfce..
[02:37] <necator> awww
[02:38] <necator> i found this really nice icon package on gnome-look.org
[02:38] <bob2> Korio: then presumably you know how to use aptitude or apt
[02:38] <necator> but the download dont work.
[02:38] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: I don't believe the network connection on that computer is working right.
[02:38] <necator> just my luck
[02:38] <krogoth64> the dhcp3-server package?
[02:38] <dachnaz_> Alright. Thanks!! ^^
[02:38] <Korio> bob2, yes?
[02:38] <krogoth64> it doesn't look like the init script does it
[02:38] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: But I'll hack away at it and hope for the best.
[02:38] <bob2> Korio: so read /etc/apt/sources.list and tell it to enable multiverse (the file explains how)
[02:38] <kinkoblast> What's everyone's favorite windowmanager? Mine's xfce.
[02:38] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: I recommend joining #xorg
[02:38] <bob2> krogoth64: I don't think it does, no
[02:38] <Aurora> bob2, oh duh, i forgot to change the permissions of the .htaccesses, dang hidden files, thanks for your help i think i can figure it from here :)
[02:38] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: thanks for all your help, I'll be back.
[02:38] <Korio> bob2, well thats what I did before I even came to this channel
[02:38] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: best of luck!
[02:38] <bob2> kinkoblast: ion3.
[02:38] <bob2> Korio: if you had, mplayer would be available
[02:39] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: getting that box on the internet will be a BIG first step
[02:39] <bob2> Korio: perhaps now you should just show it to us, so we can tell you which line is incorrect
[02:39] <bob2> Aurora: np
[02:39] <kinkoblast> Ion3?
[02:39] <zer0> hi
[02:39] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: Oh, by the way, what's the default admin password, I don't remember having to set one.
[02:40] <krogoth64> bob2: do you know what part of the init script does the chroot?
[02:40] <kinkoblast> someotherguy: There isn't one.
[02:40] <kinkoblast> !rootsudo
[02:40] <ubotu> hmm... rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:40] <thoreauputic> !tell someotherguy about sudo
[02:40] <dooglus> krogoth64: debbootstrap?
[02:40] <bob2> krogoth64: for bind9, you mean?
[02:40] <someotherguy> I just tried to su and it asked for a password.
[02:40] <krogoth64> yeah
[02:40] <bob2> let me check on my nameserver
[02:40] <bluefoxicy> Printing: Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[02:40] <dooglus> krogoth64: sorry - ignore that :)
[02:40] <Korio> bob2, u got pm
[02:40] <thoreauputic> someotherguy: read what th e bot sent you in msg
[02:41] <thoreauputic> someotherguy: ubuntu uses sudo
[02:41] <bob2> Korio: #flood or pastebin.ca
[02:41] <bob2> (and the irc server blocked your message, anyway)
[02:41] <tarheelcoxn> someotherguy: best of luck!
[02:41] <sicon> hiya, so uh, I started to install ubuntu, and i rebooted like it said, it finished installing packages then apparently started X ... but it froze at that point. the problem is i have not had the opportunity to set root pass so ctrl+alt+f1 and logging in does no good without root
[02:42] <bob2> sicon: wtf
[02:42] <bob2> sicon: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:42] <sicon> hrm
[02:42] <Korio> bob2, http://pastebin.ca/28505
[02:42] <bob2> thoreauputic: haha
[02:43] <sicon> bob2: i am not following, i know what sudo is ...
[02:43] <bob2> Korio: line 19, add multiverse to the end of it
[02:43] <sicon> bob2: the install never finished
[02:43] <bob2> sicon: ok
[02:43] <dooglus> sicon: you have a user account with permission to sudo to root...
[02:44] <dnB> can anyone point me in the right direction? id like a user account to automatically log out after a predefined idle time
[02:44] <dooglus> sicon: if not, you can boot into rescue mode and get root that way
[02:44] <sicon> ahh it automatically adds me to sudoer list
[02:44] <sicon> dooglus: i have never installed ubunto so i am not sure if everything finished installing correctly
[02:44] <Korio> thx bob2
[02:44] <navyn> hey nalioth, i rebooted and everything works now
[02:44] <dooglus> sicon: it automatically adds you to the admin group, and all members of the admin group can sudo to root
[02:45] <PJeremy> how do i make a softlink from motifwrapper to libXm.so ?
[02:45] <zblach> howdy
[02:45] <dooglus> PJeremy: ln -s libXm.so motifwrapper
[02:45] <sicon> dooglus: see my problem though? apparently X is running, i hear the drum sound but I am not seeing a desktop :-o
[02:45] <PJeremy> dooglus: with directories i assume?
[02:45] <dooglus> sicon: control-alt-F1 ?
[02:46] <Orborde> Is there a shortcut key to switch between GNOME workspaces?
[02:46] <dooglus> PJeremy: if you like :)
[02:46] <sicon> yeah i am logged in and sudo'd a shell
[02:46] <PJeremy> dooglus: well, is it necessary? ;)
[02:46] <bob2> Orborde: dunny if there is a default, but you can set one
[02:46] <thoreauputic> Orborde:  ctrl-alt-arrow
[02:46] <zblach> can one recommend a program like winamp (with internet radio stations)?
[02:46] <sicon> dooglus: but i am unsure why X isn't displaying, yet the X server IS running, i know the vid card supports it, as i just took openbsd off it ...
[02:46] <dooglus> PJeremy: you could cd to the directory you want to make the link in first.
[02:46] <krogoth64> why doesn't the disk manager send the mount configuration?
[02:46] <server_newbie> I am having big problems setting up shorewall & knockd and get them to work togther can someone spend a few minutes to help me ?
[02:47] <dooglus> PJeremy: then, if the link and the target are in the same directory you need not specify directories
[02:47] <dooglus> sicon: you may need to fiddle with /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:47] <thoreauputic> zblach:  sudo apt-get install streamtuner xmms streamripper
[02:47] <Orborde> thoreauputic / bob2 : Thanks
[02:47] <sicon> hmmm ... this could be interesting, i have 3 displays, i normally use Xorg --configure but ok
[02:47] <thoreauputic> zblach: STREAMTUNER WILL GIVE YOU A WHOLE BUNCH OF STATIONS
[02:47] <thoreauputic> OOP
[02:47] <zblach> i have xmms, but streamtuner and streamripper?
[02:47] <PJeremy> dooglus: that would be the motif one ? and no, they're not, libxm is in /usr/lib and motifwrapper is in /usr/lib/opera/plugins
[02:47] <thoreauputic> damn caps lock
[02:48] <thoreauputic> sorry for the noise people
[02:48] <zblach> thoreauputic, ok, thank.s thought that was a warning.
[02:48] <bob2> server_newbie: you need to be more specific
[02:48] <dooglus> PJeremy: so I would run "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libxm /usr/lib/opera/plugins/whateveritwascalled"
[02:48] <thoreauputic> zblach: I just hit the wrong key, sorry :|
[02:48] <PJeremy> dooglus: alrighty, thanks
[02:48] <dooglus> PJeremy: (only with more correct paths)
[02:50] <zblach> thoreauputic, no problem
[02:50] <thoreauputic> zblach: streamtuner uses xmms by default - you can use other players like bee--media-player or whatever you like
[02:50] <Korio> I dont get picture while streaming with mplayer in firefox but I get no sound
[02:50] <zblach> now, will streamtuner use xmms?
[02:50] <zblach> oh, thanks.
[02:50] <zblach> laggy.
[02:50] <Korio> I mean. i do get picture but no sound
[02:50] <thoreauputic> *beep-media-player
[02:51] <Zealot87> does anyone run windows on a dual boot?
[02:51] <server_newbie> bob2 I have tries to set up the shorewall conf files firewall works, and so does the knock how ever the port won't open
[02:51] <thoreauputic> zblach: streamripper integrates with streamtuner and allow you to rip from radio
[02:51] <necator> how do i install a metacity theme i downloaded from gnome-look.org
[02:51] <b1n0ry> if i'm unable to use the LiveCD, might i have success with a full install or should i not waste my time?
[02:51] <PJeremy> dooglus: what should it say if it was successful? should it say "blabla file exists" ?
[02:51] <dooglus> PJeremy: it should be quiet
[02:52] <necator> zealot87 i currently run windows on a dual boot
[02:52] <thoreauputic> necator: open the themes dialog and drag th etar ball onto it
[02:52] <PJeremy> dooglus: well, it tells me that motifwrapper exists, quite obviously it does..
[02:52] <soundray> b1n0ry, it depends on what the problem was with the live CD.
[02:52] <thoreauputic> necator: then check the "details" tab
[02:52] <dooglus> PJeremy: sounds like you already either have the link you want, or an alternative file of the same name
[02:52] <bob2> server_newbie: why are you using knockd at all?
[02:53] <zorin> b1n0ry did you burn the disk as a image
[02:53] <PJeremy> dooglus: well, if i had the link, motifwrapper would find libXm..
[02:53] <server_newbie> I don't want open ports , but I want to geto ssh and ftp
[02:53] <b1n0ry> soundray it got to a point where it was "Entering Preinstalled Session" gave me a red screen and then presented me with a menu that asked me to try again (or choose another step of the process)
[02:53] <dooglus> PJeremy: run "ls -l /usr/lib/opera/whatever" - what's that show you?
[02:53] <b1n0ry> zorin yeah, disk was fine.
[02:53] <thoreauputic> server_newbie: to run services, ports *have* to listen
[02:54] <dooglus> thoreauputic: I think that's the point - with 'knockd' they don't...
[02:54] <necator> thx thoreauputic that worked . does the same process apply to icons?
[02:54] <zorin> b1n0rywhat version is the disk
[02:54] <jessicaNZ> how do I get ubuntu to automaticly mount my windows (vfat) partition so that normal users can write to it?
[02:54] <thoreauputic> necator: haven't tried it - worth a try
[02:54] <b1n0ry> zorin most recent, i believe. i downloaded it yesterday from the website.
[02:54] <PJeremy> dooglus: -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 77520 2005-09-16 12:14 /usr/lib/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-3
[02:54] <dooglus> PJeremy: that's a file...
[02:54] <thoreauputic> necator: icon themes live in ~/.icons IIRC
[02:55] <dooglus> PJeremy: try an 'ls -l' on the thing you're trying to link to as well
[02:55] <bob2> server_newbie: er, you're being silly
[02:55] <Zealot87> necator, i cant get the windows installer to install on an unpartitioned amount of space
[02:55] <bob2> server_newbie: just use shorewall and forget about knockd
[02:55] <thoreauputic> necator: but there they have to be uncompresed
[02:55] <Zealot87> necator, so i tell it to create a partition that will work with windows, and it still tells me that it doesnt work
[02:55] <bob2> server_newbie: ssh with rsa keys is effectively unbreakable, ftp is so insecure that it's not worth bothering with
[02:56] <soundray> b1n0ry, is this a very recent machine?
[02:56] <server_newbie> bob2 how do I gets files
[02:56] <b1n0ry> soundray it's about a year old
[02:56] <soundray> b1n0ry, standard hardware?
[02:56] <bob2> server_newbie: rsync, sftp, scp
[02:56] <bob2> server_newbie: they all work over ssh
[02:57] <dooglus> server_newbie: you can use 'scp'
[02:57] <MrFarts> wow. this is nice
[02:57] <b1n0ry> soundray pretty much. only thing that most machines don't have is the live drive for my SB card
[02:57] <MrFarts> LiveCd works perfectly
[02:57] <MrFarts> i'm impressed
[02:57] <PJeremy> dooglus: http://pastebin.com/427310
[02:57] <soundray> b1n0ry, don't know what that is, but it shouldn't affect your graphics.
[02:57] <bluefoxicy> Mr_Milenko:  the livecd sets up X automatically; on an Ubuntu install, if you change from an nVidia video card to a Radeon, X refuses to start and you have to reinstall.
[02:57] <bluefoxicy> *mrFarts
[02:57] <bluefoxicy> MrFarts:  I'd say the livecds are more perfect than the base ubuntu install :)
[02:58] <soundray> b1n0ry, which is where your problem may lie.
[02:58] <b1n0ry> soundray nope, it doesn't. standard on-board nvidia card. i never got to a graphical screen.
[02:58] <jorge_> if my windows is on hda1, how can I put it in the boot menu
[02:58] <jorge_> cause it's not showing it
[02:58] <MrFarts> bluefoxicy, why's that ?
[02:58] <b1n0ry> soundray ubuntu doesn't work with SB cards?
[02:58] <bluefoxicy> MrFarts:  Well, you don't have to reinstall; you can go through the shell, vim /etc/X11R6/xorg.conf and set it up; but a noob would reinstall
[02:58] <server_newbie> bob2: is there a set of conf files out there pre-conf for shorewall ?
[02:58] <dooglus> PJeremy: maybe you want to move that plugin out the way and then put in the link in its place
[02:58] <Zealot87> necator
[02:58] <bob2> server_newbie: /usr/share/doc/shorewall/
[02:58] <Zealot87> ?
[02:58] <necator> zealot87 install your windows first.
[02:58] <bluefoxicy> isn't it sad?
[02:58] <jorge_> how can i mount a drive
[02:58] <necator> zealot87 then your linux. windows dosent like to share with others.
[02:59] <lightbright> I just ordered 5 CD ubuntu
[02:59] <soundray> b1n0ry, if SB is SoundBlaster, it does.
[02:59] <MrFarts> bluefoxicy, i want to install just to see how the installer works
[02:59] <Elock> sorry to bother everyone, but how do I change the password for my root account?
[02:59] <lightbright> will this be latest ubunt with latest kernel and kde and gnome?
[02:59] <bluefoxicy> MrFarts:  go for it.  DOn't hurt yourself though : )
[02:59] <b1n0ry> soundray it is. the "non-standard" device is just the drive-bay extension of the Audigy2 card.
[02:59] <bob2> Elock: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:59] <thoreauputic> bluefoxicy: the path you gave for xorg.conf is sad too ( try /etc/X11/xorg.conf )
[02:59] <bluefoxicy> MrFarts:  you've installed an OS before right?  :>
[02:59] <vader1102> Have a question here, other than evolution, what is a good email program with a calendar?
[02:59] <soundray> b1n0ry, have you tried different boot options?
[02:59] <server_newbie> Thanks bob2
[02:59] <bob2> Elock: it's in the FAQ, and the installer also prompted you to say you'd read it during the install
[02:59] <bluefoxicy> thoreauputic: yeah.  Doesn't cahnge the issue though.
[02:59] <PJeremy> dooglus: well, opera uses motifwrapper-3, but can't find it for some odd reason, now i read in a forum entry that someone softlinked them..
[03:00] <MrFarts> bluefoxicy, i've been using linux since about 1993 :)
[03:00] <soundray> b1n0ry, specifically the ones referring to graphics/framebuffers etc.
[03:00] <bluefoxicy> MrFarts:  Ah, ok.
[03:00] <Elock> bob2: thanks
[03:00] <lightbright> i just ordered 5 CDs! will this be latest ubunt with latest kernel and kde and gnome?
[03:00] <vader1102> Evolution crashes when I use the calendar ;-(
[03:00] <jorge_> does anybody have windows on their pc too?
[03:00] <b1n0ry> soundray you think the problem might be video card related?
[03:00] <bluefoxicy> Can someone please help me with samba before I kill something?
[03:00] <bob2> lightbright: yes...
[03:00] <jorge_> i need to look at what the windows entry looks like in the grub config
[03:00] <MrFarts> bluefoxicy, the days of manual xf86 modelines :)
[03:00] <bob2> bluefoxicy: not unless you ask an actual question
[03:00] <MrFarts> that was fu
[03:01] <soundray> b1n0ry, that's most likely from the limited information there is.
[03:01] <soundray> b1n0ry, unless you had any other clues.
[03:01] <soundray> b1n0ry, answering your original question:
[03:01] <bluefoxicy> bob2:  Alright.  I installed samba on a remote machine with a printer; entered user rusty <password> here, it listed the printer in gnome's cups configurator, I selected it.
[03:01] <MrFarts> i like thi
[03:01] <MrFarts> s
[03:01] <bluefoxicy> bob2:  Printing a testpage changes the status to "Printing: Connection failed with error NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE"
[03:01] <MrFarts> feels like BSD
[03:01] <soundray> b1n0ry, you would invest about 40 min, there being 10 min of actual work.
[03:01] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn: I figured it out!
[03:01] <bluefoxicy> bob2:  solve for obvious problems.
[03:02] <b1n0ry> soundray the livecd went through scanning for the hardware, then the nice blue boot-loader screen went red said "Failed Entering Preinstalled Session" then gave me a menu with about 20 options on it to choose the next step of the installation process. all the info i have.
[03:02] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> How do I check my ip?
[03:02] <soundray> b1n0ry, after that, you will very likely have a system where at least the command line works.
[03:02] <bluefoxicy> bob2:  and yes I already usurped root on the samba server over there and smbpasswd -e rusty
[03:02] <MrFarts> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu, ifcnfig
[03:02] <MrFarts> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu, ifcconfig
[03:02] <MrFarts> er
[03:02] <someotherguy> tarheelcoxn:Apparently my stupid roommate put a second videocard in when I wasn't looking, and I didn't notice it...it was loading x on it.
[03:02] <MrFarts> ifconfig
[03:02] <b1n0ry> soundray then i could try to get x working... that what you're getting at?
[03:02] <soundray> b1n0ry, exactly.
[03:02] <b1n0ry> soundray does ubuntu use xfree or x11-xorg?
[03:02] <soundray> b1n0ry, xorg
[03:03] <b1n0ry> soundray that's what i was hoping :)
[03:03] <b1n0ry> soundray i've gotten half decent at configuring xorg
[03:03] <soundray> b1n0ry, problem could be the CD too.
[03:03] <soundray> b1n0ry, don't know how pressed you are for time, but I know I would try.
[03:03] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> how do I make linux request a new ip address?
[03:03] <PJeremy> jorge_: did you get the query about grub?
[03:03] <b1n0ry> soundray i doubt it. cd worked fine on a virtual machine. i also verified the media from the aforementioned menu
[03:04] <superchode> ifdown, ifup
[03:04] <bluefoxicy> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu:  sudo dhclient eth0
[03:04] <bob2> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu: 'sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0', perhaps.
[03:04] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> ...
[03:04] <jorge_> PJeremy: yes but, thanks, but I messaged you back
[03:04] <bob2> bluefoxicy: that will go terribly wrong if there is an existing daemonized dhclient
[03:04] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> Okay, thanks.
[03:04] <bluefoxicy> bob2:  really?
[03:04] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> bye
[03:04] <PJeremy> jorge_: heh, didn't get anything.
[03:04] <jorge_> I'd like to know waht savedefault, chainloader +1, and makeactive does
[03:04] <soundray> b1n0ry, what distribution did you use with xorg, and was that on the same machine?
[03:05] <b1n0ry> soundray no, not the same machine. but with fedora.
[03:05] <bluefoxicy> bob2:  so no answer on my remote printing issue huh?
[03:05] <bob2> bluefoxicy: nope, I don't use samba printing
[03:05] <PJeremy> jorge_: sorry, don't know that, ubuntu set it up during installation.
[03:05] <jorge_> Ah, thanks anyways
[03:06] <jorge_> I'll set it up like that too
[03:06] <bob2> jorge_: 'info grub', after installigng grub-doc.
[03:06] <necator> how do i install a sound theme?
[03:06] <b1n0ry> soundray as soon as i finish backing up this drive i'm going to wipe out, i'm going to give it a try.
[03:06] <MrFarts> man, i wish i had heard of this earlier
[03:07] <MrFarts> this is sweet
[03:07] <MrFarts> everything i want
[03:07] <b1n0ry> are there any known issues with dual-booting windows xp if the two OS's reside on different drives?
[03:07] <soundray> b1n0ry, hope you can get it to run.
[03:07] <vader1102> Has anyone had Evolution crash after opening the calendar?
[03:07] <vader1102> using Breezy
[03:08] <justtestingandso> !testtest
[03:08] <ubotu> justtestingandso: No idea
[03:08] <justtestingandso> !note_me_about_msg
[03:08] <ubotu> justtestingandso: Are you smoking crack?
[03:08] <thoreauputic> justtestingandso: *cough*
[03:08] <necator> does anyone know how to install a sound theme from gnome-look.org ?
[03:09] <Zealot87> necator, then how do you install ubuntu afterwords so that you can choose which one to boot?
[03:09] <justtestingandso> i somehow registered my nick (oskude) and the command was given by ubotu, but the command didnt as for password, so i cant use my nick. DOH
[03:09] <necator> zealot87 do u mean after windows is already installed?
[03:10] <Zealot87> yeah
[03:10] <MrFarts> is there an ms core fonts package for ubuntu ?
[03:10] <soundray> b1n0ry, I haven't tried this myself but would expect no problem.
[03:10] <necator> zealot87 ubuntu will detect that windows is there and ask you if u want to install a boot loader.
[03:10] <justtestingandso> !msg
[03:10] <ubotu> please don't /msg people or start a personal message/ dcc chat without asking first in channel. People might be busy, and you have a better chance of an answer in the channel. Don't assume a particular user will be able to help you.
[03:10] <necator> zealot87 then when your comp turns on b4 an os loads youll get like a window that lists all your os unbutu and windows
[03:10] <StevenK> MrFarts: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/msttcorefonts
[03:10] <jorge_> im gonna try out my new grub file
[03:10] <jorge_> hope it works :S
[03:10] <necator> zealot87 and u just pick one with arrow keys and press enter and it boots into that.
[03:10] <soundray> b1n0ry, older Win versions were particular about wanting to be on the first HD, so you could arrange it like that to be on the safe side.
[03:10] <necator> zealot87 ubuntu will know how to work with windows once its installed its just windows dosent know how to work with linux.
[03:11] <MrFarts> StevenK, thanks
[03:11] <Zealot87> necator, ok thanks, i guess i will have to reinstall ubuntu and windows then
[03:11] <necator> zealot87 thats y u install the windows first cuss the ubuntu will know what to do with the windows when its intalled. just pay close attention to the ubuntu installers wizard.
[03:11] <Zealot87> why what will it say?
[03:11] <necator> zealot87 im not sure if thats the only way possible im new at this stuff my self but from what i know i belive thats how it has to be done.
[03:12] <justtestingandso> ok, i didnt read it comlete http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup, doh
[03:12] <Zealot87> necator, ok thanks for the help, i will try tonight
[03:12] <necator> zealot87 when ubuntu is installing and its partitioing it self its going to recongize the windows partion and ask u if u want to destroy it or install ubuntu in the free space
[03:12] <necator> zealot87 after u install ubuntu and leave the windows part intact then it will ask u if u want to install a boot loader and u say yes.
[03:14] <MrFarts> btw, does ubuntu include qt libs ?
[03:14] <dabaR> MrFarts: why not have a non farts nick?
[03:14] <StevenK> MrFarts: I expect so.
[03:14] <MrFarts> dabaR, why not have a non-lame nick ?
[03:15] <dabaR> MrFarts: ok sorry
[03:15] <soundray> Someone stinks.
[03:15] <dabaR> MrFarts: /msg ubotu ask the bot
[03:15] <dabaR> lol
[03:15] <dabaR> MrFarts: /msg ubotu find qt
[03:15] <MrFarts> thanks
[03:15] <sazwerx> help.. anyone here knows how to setup CDMA phone by Qualcomm?
[03:16] <dabaR> or libqt.~, or apt-cache search libqt, or aptitude search libqt
[03:16] <Zealot87> ok gotcha gotcha, it makes sense
[03:16] <dabaR> bah
[03:16] <Zealot87> necator, will do thanks for the help!
[03:16] <necator> can someone tell me what this means
[03:16] <necator> no problem zealot87
[03:16] <necator> zealot87 good luck
[03:16] <MrFarts> libqt4-core
[03:16] <MrFarts> seems like something
[03:16] <necator> can someone tell me what this means
[03:16] <Zealot87> hehe thanks
[03:16] <necator> IMPORTANT! You must do 'su' with the '-p' flag in order to preserve your home dir variable while running as superuser)
[03:16] <dducko> Dont run as superuser?
[03:16] <necator> i dont understand what thats telling me :p
[03:16] <MrFarts> you know the only thing that i don't like about ubuntu so far is the stupid logo
[03:17] <necator> i dont know what -p or home varibale is
[03:17] <MrFarts> i don't care to see politically correct black people :)
[03:17] <dabaR> MrFarts: I hate ubuntu.
[03:17] <dducko> Its telling that if your usuing the su
[03:17] <MrFarts> dabaR, the logo or the distribution?
[03:17] <necator> what if i use sudo dducko?
[03:17] <necator> cuss i dont know what su does either
[03:17] <dabaR> MrFarts: anything to do with it.
[03:17] <dave> any1 hlep me installing wine pm me pls
[03:17] <dave> any1 hlep me installing wine pm me pls
[03:17] <dducko> that unless you use the -p  you cant hit cd  to go home directory
[03:17] <MrFarts> dabaR, why are you in an ubuntu channel then
[03:18] <necator> dave
[03:18] <dave> ya
[03:18] <dducko> or use ~ as your home directory in lines
[03:18] <necator> sudo apt-get install wine
[03:18] <MrFarts> dabaR, and what do you hate about it exactly ?
[03:18] <necator> i think thats all u have to do
[03:18] <dducko> sudo keeps it, unless you do sudo  -s I believe
[03:18] <dabaR> dave: enable universe, "sudo aptitude install wine" in a terminal
[03:18] <dducko> not sure
[03:18] <dabaR> MrFarts: stop trolling me.
[03:18] <MrFarts> dabaR, ok, whatever
[03:19] <necator> where is the themes folder located?
[03:19] <dabaR> haha
[03:20] <dabaR> necator: for what wm?
[03:20] <DMJC> how do you set samba to run at boot?
[03:20] <DMJC> the machine is headless
[03:20] <b1n0ry> DMJC ntsysv
[03:21] <b1n0ry> DMJC lets you select the services you want to start at boot
[03:21] <necator> whats a wm ?
[03:21] <thoreauputic> DMJC: smba should run at bot by default
[03:21] <necator> im tryin to install a sound package i downloaded.
[03:21] <DMJC> hmm k
[03:21] <b1n0ry> necator window manager, such as gnome or kde
[03:21] <necator> gnome
[03:21] <b1n0ry> necator wait, i lied
[03:21] <thoreauputic> DMJC:  /etc/init.d/samba
[03:22] <DMJC> kj
[03:22] <dabaR> b1n0ry: gnome or kde are not wms, but ok...
[03:22] <b1n0ry> necator those would be desktop managers
[03:22] <dabaR> haha, nice:)
[03:22] <b1n0ry> or rather 'desktop environments'
[03:22] <myrth_> how do i install nvidia-glx on kubuntu?
[03:23] <dabaR> necator: well, download the file off the net, and install it through the gui, or something.
[03:23] <necator> dabar ya i cant figure out how.
[03:23] <b1n0ry> necator still 'wm' = window manager such as twm, used to handle the ways that windows interact with X
[03:23] <MrFarts> how can i search for a package in a repository ?
[03:23] <necator> dabar i have the file already just dont know how to install it.
[03:23] <b1n0ry> dabaR did i redeem myself? ;)
[03:24] <dabaR> necator: tried system prefs themes?
[03:24] <thoreauputic> MrFarts: erm - apt-cache search <keywords>   ?
[03:24] <necator> ya dosent work in there dabar
[03:24] <MrFarts> thomhash, thanks
[03:24] <dave> can u read windows partitions under ubuntu?
[03:24] <thoreauputic> dave: yes
[03:24] <FR500> hello
[03:24] <dave> where they at ? lol
[03:24] <FR500> is there a scanning program with a better gui than xsane? i mean, it's great but is far from being intuitive
[03:24] <thoreauputic> !tell dave about mountwindows
[03:24] <dabaR> necator: http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q2 ?
[03:24] <dave> ty
[03:25] <thoreauputic> FR500: I think you can use the GIMP for scanning (havne' got a scanner here)
[03:26] <thoreauputic> FR500: KDE has kooka IIRC
[03:26] <MrFarts> what in the world is vmware player ?
[03:26] <nybbz> hey, having problems resizing ntfs partition. is it even possible using the ubuntu installer?
[03:26] <glick> damn is there anything i can do if my landlord is beating around the bush when i request him to turn on my heat?
[03:26] <Siph0n> !tell Siph0n about mountwindows
[03:26] <glick> it apartment has been freezing for two weeks, when i asked him
[03:27] <FR500> thomhash, kk, gonna check em out
[03:27] <dabaR> glick: ya, offer ubuntu.
[03:27] <glick> how about i offer him a court summons
[03:27] <whynotwork> hmm, a little off-topic. i registered my nick (oskude) with "/msg nickserv register <password>" and relogged with it (password set in xchat preferences for that server) login went ok and freenode authorized me. but still "oskude" cant post on this channel ?!?!?!
[03:27] <glick> if i get a cold im sueing his ass
[03:27] <dabaR> right, that works too.
[03:27] <thoreauputic> glick: promise not to burn his house down? *grin*
[03:27] <trincamckee> http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7766/multiplexfce0fa.jpg , as u can see i have 2 xfce entries listed, how can i delete one of them?
[03:28] <FR500> thoreauputic, kooka looks good, to bad it's kde
[03:29] <FR500> looks to different
[03:29] <thoreauputic> trincamckee: edit (delete)  the *.desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions
[03:29] <mmiikkee12> what's the difference between hard and symblic links?
[03:29] <fanopnaic> whynotwork: are you sure you were authorized?
[03:29] <whynotwork> fanopnaic, 100% sure
[03:29] <thoreauputic> trincamckee: there will be two - I asume you want to keep the xfce4 one
[03:29] <trincamckee> thoreauputic, but "xsession" is a folder or a script?
[03:30] <thoreauputic> it'sa dirctory
[03:30] <trincamckee> actualy i want that is selected
[03:30] <thoreauputic> trincamckee: cd /usr/shar/xsessions ; ls
[03:30] <fanopnaic> whynotwork: because you have a n= prefix on your ident, and I think that means that you are not identified :)
[03:30] <thoreauputic> * /usr/share/xsessions
[03:30] <ssdd534> how do i make my ubuntu rereconize the hardware like it did during the install?
[03:30] <trincamckee> i dont have that dolder
[03:30] <trincamckee> =/
[03:30] <whynotwork> fanopnaic, i copy the messages, brb
[03:31] <thoreauputic> trincamckee: are you using KDM ?
[03:31] <trincamckee> sorry my mistake
[03:31] <trincamckee> i have
[03:31] <leeroy> Hi, I am trying to install a dual boot of xp and ubuntu 5.10 on my system.  It has two harddrives, one of which is hooked up through ata, and the other of which is hooked up through a pci card with more ata slots.  When I try to install, Windows goes on fine, but then Ubuntu sort of messes things up by popping up the error of "Cannot find operating system".  Any ideas as to the source of this?
[03:31] <thoreauputic> trincamckee: it has files in it - delete the one you don't want
[03:32] <ssdd534> how do i make my second cdrom that i just added auto mount?
[03:32] <dachnaz_> Why does my password suddenly not work?
[03:32] <mmiikkee12> ssdd534: remove noauto from fstab
[03:32] <ssdd534> mmiikkee12, thanks
[03:32] <myrth_> argh... installed nvidia-glx, and now all the fonts are huge - where do i change dpi in kubuntu?
[03:32] <mmiikkee12> wait, did you mean at boot or when you put a cd in?
[03:32] <punkass> is there away to install grub to the root partition after ubuntu has been installed?
[03:33] <thoreauputic> ssdd534: did you put an entry in /etc/fstab for it?
[03:33] <fanopnaic> oskude: working now?
[03:33] <dachnaz_> Why doesn't my password work?
[03:33] <trincamckee> tank u it worked
[03:33] <mmiikkee12> dachnaz_: login as root and do passwd yourname
[03:33] <thoreauputic> trincamckee: :)
[03:33] <leeroy> Any idea why installing a dual boot with Ubuntu causes the error, "Unable to find operating system" at bootup?
[03:34] <mmiikkee12> what's the difference between hard and symbolic links?
[03:34] <dachnaz_> mmiikkee12, no such thing as root in Ubuntu.
[03:34] <mmiikkee12> yes there is
[03:34] <mmiikkee12> it just isn't as hard to get to
[03:34] <thoreauputic> leeroy: the only time I've seen that it was a BIOS issue - try resetting the BIOS to defaults
[03:34] <dachnaz_> No, there isn't...
[03:34] <dachnaz_> If there is then how do I get to it?
[03:34] <dooglus> I have "n=" in front of my name whether I'm registered or not
[03:34] <mmiikkee12> sudo passwd and then su
[03:34] <leeroy> I have two harddrives, one of which is IDE, and the other is hooked up through a PCI card, could that make a difference?
[03:35] <mmiikkee12> the root pswd is your password
[03:35] <necator> dachnaz_ u can create it.
[03:35] <myrth_> anyone can tell me where do i change in kubuntu gui screen dpi?
[03:35] <dachnaz_> You guys don't get it.
[03:35] <mmiikkee12> there is a root
[03:35] <dachnaz_>  I need the password to do these things! And it doesn't work!
[03:35] <fanopnaic> mmiikkee12: a soft link points to another file. a hard link directly points to the specific piece of data on the harddrive.
[03:35] <dooglus> dachnaz_: you can set the root password like this: "sudo passwd"
[03:35] <mmiikkee12> it's your password
[03:35] <thoreauputic> !tell dachnaz_ about root
[03:35] <fanopnaic> mmiikkee12: (simplified)  see http://www.google.com/search?&q=difference%20soft%20link%20hard%20link
[03:35] <necator> dachnaz_ use the password you used for your login account.
[03:35] <mmiikkee12> ok
[03:35] <dachnaz_> dooglus, Dammit it asks me for a password and it doesn't WORK!
[03:36] <FR500> thoreauputic, when i plug my scanner i gotta change permissions manually to access it (like chmod 666 /proc/bus/usb/003/005 or something alike, is there a way to make it set like that automatically?
[03:36] <thoreauputic> dachnaz_: read what the bot sent you
[03:36] <myrth_> dachnaz_: are you putting your regular user password?
[03:36] <necator> dachnaz_ YOUR ACCOUNT PASSWORD IS THE PASSWORD.
[03:36] <dooglus> dachnaz_: I was disputing your "there's no root account in ubuntu" outrage :)
[03:36] <dachnaz_> How thick can you guys get...
[03:36] <mmiikkee12> !root
[03:36] <ubotu> root is, like, disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:36] <dooglus> necator: he's forgotten his user's password - or someone's changed it for him
[03:36] <dachnaz_> I am using my regular user password. It does NOT work.
[03:36] <thoreauputic> FR500: probably - I don't know
[03:36] <necator> dachnaz_ your the thick one. we trying to help your thick skull
[03:36] <leeroy> Don't bite the hand that feeds you...
[03:36] <necator> dooglus he thinks he needs another password called root.
[03:36] <dooglus> dachnaz_: maybe you've got capslock on.  or maybe you changed to a czech keyboard layout
[03:36] <FR500> ok
[03:36] <necator> dooglus we are telling him his usr accoutn is the root password.
[03:36] <dooglus> necator: I don't think he does.
[03:37] <dachnaz_> (-.-)
[03:37] <thoreauputic> dachnaz_: read the Code of Conduct and please show respect for other users
[03:37] <whynotwork> ok, i registered my password with "/msg nickserv register <password>" as user "oskude", logout and set my "nickserv password" in xchat for freenode server. on login i get "Password accepted - you are now recognized: services. sets mode +e oskude: You have no new memos" and then i "/join #ubuntu" and when saying something i get "#ubuntu :Cannot send to channel", wtf ?
[03:37] <dachnaz_> (*.*)
[03:37] <necator> dooglus if he does sudo he will be fine
[03:37] <dooglus> dachnaz_: can you log in as yourself still?
[03:37] <mmiikkee12> rm -Rf / and reinstall :) (jk)
[03:37] <intelikey> dachnaz_ are you needing to know how to reset your password ?
[03:37] <necator> dooglus but hes rude no point helping him.
[03:37] <dachnaz_> dooglus, no I cannot
[03:37] <myrth_> guys, where do i change dpi?
[03:37] <myrth_> of screen
[03:37] <dachnaz_> intelikey, This is probably necessary.
[03:38] <dooglus> necator: I think he's being rude 'cos he's frustrated that everyone is answering a question that he didn't ask :)
[03:38] <necator> dooglus i think someone did tell him that solution first and he said it was wrong so we told him another one.
[03:38] <dooglus> necator: boot into rescue mode and reset your password from there if it really has changed.
[03:38] <leeroy> Is there a way to install linux first, and then to install Windows alongside it?
[03:39] <mmiikkee12> yes
[03:39] <dooglus> necator: try typing it at the command prompt to see if it looks right
[03:39] <thoreauputic> leeroy: yes, but the other way round is easier
[03:39] <myrth_> leeroy: i think u'll have to reinstall grub after that
[03:39] <_native_> leeroy; windows will overwrite grub.
[03:39] <mmiikkee12> just have a grub floppy handy, install windows, then boot the floppy and reinstall
[03:39] <ssdd534> ok i tryed adding my new cdrom to fstab.... but it wont mount
[03:39] <_native_> leeroy; which is not good
[03:39] <necator> leeroy easier to go windows first.
[03:39] <ssdd534> any way i try to mount it
[03:39] <httpdss> im having this problem from a long time ago .. and that is: once i configured pppoe with the pppoeconfig utility .. and from then on, when i boot 2 or 3 ppp instances get created and the connection doesnt route fine .. how can i make this this ubuntu to run only one instance of ppp on bootup ??
[03:39] <dachnaz_> :X
[03:40] <mmiikkee12> did you put user in the options?
[03:40] <leeroy> Okay, cool
[03:40] <dachnaz_> brb then, rebooting into safe mode or whatevers.
[03:40] <necator> dooglus im not the one with the password problem he is.
[03:40] <whynotwork> do i have a fraking bug or what ? :)
[03:40] <mmiikkee12> ssdd534: what's the error?
[03:40] <dooglus> necator: you all look the same to me, you IRC nicks
[03:40] <ssdd534> can not mount specal device /dev/hdd
[03:40] <intelikey> dachnaz_ reboot and at the grub prompt (assuming grub)  hit [esc]  then  E  to edit the startup command line.    and add 1  that is the number one   or single  this should boot you into a root console where you can type "passwd <name> "  and set your passwd.  then use 'init 2 ' to continue the normal boot process.
[03:40] <ssdd534> it says /dev/hdd dosnt exist
[03:40] <necator> intelikey he isnt here.
[03:41] <intelikey> yes i'm lagging...
[03:41] <BOBBIE> hi how do i change file permissions of a file :?
[03:41] <krogoth64> is shorewall the best way to manage iptables?
[03:41] <whynotwork> well, gotta fo help myself (like allways
[03:42] <thoreauputic> BOBBIE:  chmod
[03:42] <httpdss> BOBBIE: chmod
[03:42] <dachnaz_> Rebooting worked. Wierd shiz.
[03:42] <ssdd534> i need to add a new dev to /dev.... how would i do so?
[03:42] <klontj> i'm trying to change my theme to clearlooks under System->Prefences->Theme ->Install theme. It asks for the location of the theme - where is the theme located-which directory?
[03:43] <intelikey> dachnaz_ just rebooting fixed it ?
[03:43] <dachnaz_> How can I add something to start when the system starts up? In gentoo it's something like rc-update add fooprog default
[03:43] <httpdss> klontj: it show appear if installed from package ..
[03:43] <dachnaz_> intelikey, Yeah.
[03:44] <thoreauputic> klontj: clearlooks is already installed (in breezy anyway) just click on the icon/picture
[03:44] <dooglus> dachnaz_: if it's something little, just add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[03:44] <thoreauputic> dachnaz_:  update-rc.d
[03:45] <glick> JEEEEEEEEEEESSSUS CHRIIIIIIST its cold!
[03:45] <httpdss> how can i run only 1 instance of pppd on bootup ??
[03:45] <ssdd534> i need to add a new dev to /dev.... how would i do so?
[03:45] <necator> dachnaz_ not sure if its the same thing but what i do is open my programs then when i log out i press save current setup.
[03:45] <intelikey> httpdss remove the symlink in /etc/rc2.d/
[03:45] <dachnaz_> so, for instance,  $ update-rc.d /home/dachnaz/ts2/startupscript start runlvl 2
[03:46] <dnB> hi, wondering if anyone knows what might cause the mouse pointer to be off from where im actually clicking? (clicks button 2 inches above where pointer appears to be?)
[03:46] <dachnaz_> nvm.
[03:47] <thoreauputic> dachnaz_: erm, update-rc.d is for scripts in /etc/init.d and so on
[03:47] <dachnaz_> Ok
[03:47] <klontj> I click on the picture and nothing happens - shouldn't the brown background color change?
[03:47] <ssdd534> ok... iadded a new cdrom to my system... but it seems there is no /dev/hdd (where the new cdrom is)... what can i do to fix this?
[03:47] <ohmannnnn> nickserv sucks. it says my user is regonized but posting in #ubuntu gives me "#ubuntu :Cannot send to channel"
[03:47] <dnB> heh, can someone tell me how to make an application load on startup? (dansguardian a webfilter)?
[03:48] <ssdd534> dnB System > prefs > sessions
[03:48] <intelikey> dachnaz_ i'd 'cp  /home/dachnaz/ts2/startupscript /etc/rc2.d/S99startupaddons
[03:48] <cfa> can any1 explain why i can not run make & make clean
[03:48] <thoreauputic> klontj: if you mean the desktop - no. You change the wallpaper for that - or do you mean changing themes has no effect on your widgets/ windows etc?
[03:49] <intelikey> cfa installed build essentials ?
[03:49] <thoreauputic> cfa: have you installed the "build-esential" package?
[03:49] <klontj> sorry - i thought the wallpaper would also change
[03:49] <dnB> ssdd534, will that work for loading an application that needs sudo on a non sudo account?
[03:49] <cfa> dont know
[03:49] <thoreauputic> build-essential (singular)
[03:49] <cfa> let me check
[03:49] <dnB> for instance, squid is autoloaded, however isnt listed in the sessions start up
[03:49] <ssdd534> dnB... i have no idea... sorry
[03:50] <thoreauputic> klontj: to change wallpaper right click the background and choose to change it
[03:50] <dnB> ssdd534, thanks ;)
[03:50] <cmcnamar> hello
[03:50] <cfa> thoreauputic, thanx i did not
[03:50] <cfa> i just did
[03:50] <cmcnamar> i am a n00b
[03:50] <cmcnamar> I just installed Ubuntu yesterday
[03:51] <klontj> thoreauputic : thanks
[03:51] <cmcnamar> anyone know how to play mp3's?
[03:51] <intelikey> yesterday would be a good name for the next release......
[03:51] <thoreauputic> cfa: that should help - but make sure you have the right -dev packages as well for what you compile
[03:51] <ohmannnnn> test123
[03:51] <ohmannnnn> IRC SUCKS :)
[03:51] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[03:51] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:52] <Shadowpillar> How do I compile a kernel and make it into a .deb?
[03:52] <cmcnamar> i have a bunch of mp3 files but I can't seem to figure out how to play them...  the only player my computer seems to have is rhythmbox, and it won't let me play mp3's
[03:52] <thoreauputic> Shadowline: why?
[03:52] <dooglus> ssdd534: sessions only works when you log in.  he wants it to run at boot.  I would suggest /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[03:52] <thoreauputic> Shadowpillar: ^^^
[03:52] <ohmannnnn> is anyone familiar with freenode nickserv ?
[03:52] <ssdd534> o oops
[03:52] <ssdd534> read that wrong
[03:52] <dooglus> dnB: did you see that?  run your webfilter from /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[03:52] <cfa> thoreauputic, i am going to install the madwifi-trunk-r1325-20051111
[03:53] <necator> what is a WxWindows application?
[03:53] <ssdd534> ok... iadded a new cdrom to my system... but it seems there is no /dev/hdd (where the new cdrom is)... what can i do to fix this?
[03:53] <dnB> dooglus, thanks ;)
[03:53] <ohmannnnn> can u people even see my text ? (again)
[03:54] <thoreauputic> cmcnamar: if you read the URL the bot spat out all will be revealed
[03:54] <trincamckee> thoreauputic, i  deleted one of those entries but when i log i continue with the 2 xfce entries
[03:54] <myrth_> grrr.. i've set in xorg.conf DisplaySize but the fonts are still huge, please someone help me...
[03:54] <intelikey> ssdd534 MAKEDEV cdrom  maybe
[03:54] <thoreauputic> trincamckee: that is very odd
[03:54] <trincamckee> /usr/share/xsessions/
[03:54] <trincamckee> thats the right dir?
[03:54] <markw> opinions on running 32bit?  Not that I need a huge addressable memory space or anything, the box should be _AS_ fast.
[03:55] <ohmannnnn> lol, im a ghost oaisjfoweijfwoiefjwoeifjwoiefjwoeifjwoeifj woeifj woeifjw eoifjw oeifj woiefj woiejfwoeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifjw oeifjwoeifj woeifj woiefj woeifj woiefj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj woeifj weoifj woeifj w
[03:55] <thoreauputic> trincamckee: does the entry reappear in that dir too?
[03:55] <trincamckee> do i have to reboot?
[03:55] <trincamckee> no
[03:55] <trincamckee> just to entries on xsession dir
[03:55] <ssdd534> intelikey, says it dosnt know how to make the device
[03:55] <thoreauputic> ohmannnnn: don't spam us please
[03:56] <trincamckee> what im trying to say is that i have just one xfce entrie
[03:56] <trincamckee> in xsessions
[03:56] <ohmannnnn> thomhash, i made a simple question where noone answered, so whought you dont see mee
[03:56] <trincamckee> but doesnt seemed to worked
[03:56] <dnB> dooglus, apparently its already in init.d, however it seems it loads before squid, which causes it to close down, know how i can change the boot order? so i can have it boot after squid?
[03:56] <thoreauputic> ohmannnnn: that's no escuse
[03:57] <thoreauputic> ohmannnnn: any repetition and you are out of here, sorry
[03:57] <Shadow_pillar> How do I compile a kernel and make it into a .deb?
[03:57] <ohmannnnn> thoreauputic, well, i'm here to HELP others and i registered my password with "/msg nickserv register <your-password>" as user "oskude", logout and set my "nickserv password" in xchat for freenode server". on login i get "Password accepted - you are now recognized: services. sets mode +e oskude: You have no new memos" and then i "/join #ubuntu" and when saying something i get "#ubuntu :Cannot send to channel"...
[03:57] <thoreauputic> Shadow_pillar: why?
[03:58] <Shadow_pillar> I want to compile a custom kernel
[03:58] <Shadow_pillar> thoreauputic: because from what I hear pre-emp support is disabled in the default kernel
[03:58] <rawtek> cfa; are you there
[03:58] <thoreauputic> ohmannnnn: because you have a gag (+q) I assume
[03:58] <Shadow_pillar> thoreauputic: and between hoary and breezy, I can notice it when trying to do ink work under the gimp
[03:58] <intelikey> ssdd534 look in /dev/ide/cd or host0  and see if you don't already have a device inode for it.....  if so you can symlink that   ln -s /dev/ide/cd/blah  /dev/cdrom#
[03:58] <cfa> i am new to ubuntu and debian. I now RH, FreeBSD, Centos and other. does the standard install not include the source and how can i install it
[03:59] <balfour> Hi all.
[03:59] <Shadow_pillar> when drawing, it uses 100% of the cpu, and the mouse skips around
[03:59] <thoreauputic> ohmannnnn: which given your behaviour isn't surprising
[03:59] <cfa> rawtek yes how r u doing\
[03:59] <Shadow_pillar> ohmannnnn: would you have to be juho?
[03:59] <dooglus> dnB: you can edit the file and add stuff to it.  the numbers tell you the boot order.  look in /etc/rc2.d
[03:59] <Shadow_pillar> ohmannnnn: have = happen
[03:59] <dnB> dooglus, thanks ;)
[03:59] <ohmannnnn> thoreauputic, no, i was allways oskude in here, until i registered it and couldnt talk here
[03:59] <dooglus> dnB: and from what I remember, bootmisc.sh is one of the last things to run - after squid I should think
[03:59] <rawtek> cfa; great thanks how is your network now
[04:00] <cmcnamar> hey....
[04:00] <ohmannnnn> Shadow_pillar, no, i was allways oskude in here, until i registered it and couldnt talk here
[04:00] <cmcnamar> does anyone know how to install something from a .bin file in Ubuntu?
[04:00] <balfour> I'm trying to make a disk image of /dev/hdb, which may have been partially formatted, and I'm trying to move said image onto /home/theblue on /dev/hda1. I'm using the Hoary Live CD, as I don't want to screw up my normal Breezy configuration, and I want the image to be copied to the home folder on the Breezy installation.  Does anyone know how I would go about doing this?
[04:00] <dnB> dooglus, according to this squid is s30 and dansguardian is s50.. so it should already be in the correct order/
[04:00] <cmcnamar> I'm trying to install RealPlayer, but it's in a .bin file
[04:00] <dnB> ?*
[04:00] <dooglus> dnB: right.
[04:00] <ssdd534> intelikey, sorry to be a pain... seems i dont have a /dev/ide :/
[04:00] <thoreauputic> cmcnamar: be specific -what is it and why are you installing it?
[04:00] <Shadow_pillar> thoreauputic: do I download a source deb package and compile it and then turn it into a deb?
[04:01] <cfa> sorry, back , have a newbirn and when he cries i need to run
[04:01] <dnB> dooglus, guess its some other problem then :) thanks
[04:01] <cmcnamar> it's RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[04:01] <cmcnamar> and I'm installing it because Rhythmbox can't play MP3's
[04:01] <ohmannnnn> thoreauputic, my (current) behaviour is caused by nickserv not working right
[04:01] <rawtek> cmcnamr; ./realplayer file name after you cd to its location
[04:01] <Shadow_pillar> # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set
[04:01] <dooglus> dnB: if you rename the s50 to a k50, it won't run.  then you can run it from bootmisc.sh instead
[04:01] <thoreauputic> cmcnamar: ah sorry I didn't see your post
[04:01] <cmcnamar> and I want to play MP3's
[04:01] <dooglus> dnB: 's' for 'start', 'k' for 'kill'
[04:01] <Madpilot> !tell cmcnamar about mp3
[04:01] <cmcnamar> how do I do that?
[04:01] <dnB> dooglus, ahh ;)
[04:01] <rawtek> mp3 use special codecs see ubuntu wiki
[04:02] <dnB> dooglus, would you mind if i pmed you?
[04:02] <thoreauputic> cmcnamar:  run  chmod +x RealPlay*    then run  sudo ./RealpPlay*.bin
[04:02] <dooglus> dnB: you can try :)  you need to have your nick registered or it won't let you
[04:02] <rawtek> yup
[04:02] <dnB> heh, ok
[04:02] <cmcnamar> I read the RestrictedFormats page
[04:02] <dooglus> dnB: and I draw the line at cybersex
[04:02] <thoreauputic> !tell cmcnamar about restricted
[04:02] <cmcnamar> and it said that you can use RealPlayer
[04:03] <balfour> I'm trying to make a disk image of /dev/hdb, which may have been partially formatted, and I'm trying to move said image onto /home/theblue on /dev/hda1. I'm using the Hoary Live CD, as I don't want to screw up my normal Breezy configuration, and I want the image to be copied to the home folder on the Breezy installation.  Does anyone know how I would go about doing this?
[04:03] <thoreauputic> cmcnamar: YOU READ IT? iTTELLS YOU HOW!
[04:03] <Shadow_pillar> thoreauputic: can you help with the custom kernel?
[04:03] <cmcnamar> which is what I'm trying to install...
[04:03] <balfour> And would "sudo cat /dev/hdb > ??????" work?
[04:03] <thoreauputic> Shadow_pillar: not really sorry
[04:03] <rawtek> cfa; did you get your a/g working
[04:03] <_native_> realplayer sucks install beep-media-player or xmms and libmad0
[04:03] <Shadow_pillar> thoreauputic: CONFIG_PREEMPT=y
[04:03] <Shadow_pillar>  in 2.6.10 on hoary # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set
[04:03] <Shadow_pillar>  on breezy
[04:03] <cfa> rawtek the wireless did not work. do u know if the source is installed when u do a standard install
[04:03] <rawtek> i like amarok but that is just me
[04:03] <Shadow_pillar> thoreauputic: my system is noticeably slow because of this
[04:03] <rawtek> cfa; what source please
[04:03] <Madpilot> cmcnamar: you don't need Realplayer just for mp3...
[04:04] <ohmannnnn> hmm, why cant i talk in #freenode ? i get "#freenode :Cannot send to channel" ?
[04:04] <balfour> Because you have to stay in #freenode for a while to get to be able to talk.
[04:04] <_native_> cmcnamar; install beep-media-player
[04:04] <ohmannnnn> ok, some1 granted me, foh
[04:04] <thoreauputic> ohmannnnn: they need to voice you
[04:04] <_native_> cmcnamar; and libmad0
[04:05] <cfa> linux kernel,
[04:05] <rawtek> cfa; I want to help you through this but you will need ndiswrapper installed and the driver file (not source) ready to go
[04:05] <balfour> So no one can tell me how to image a drive using Hoary Live?
[04:05] <intelikey>  libmad0 is in main but not on the cd.....   :)
[04:06] <cfa> rawtek the ndiswrapper is install
[04:06] <intelikey> balfour dd
[04:06] <cfa> installed
[04:06] <rawtek> ok how about the driver for your wireless
[04:06] <balfour> intelikey: dd if=/dev/hdb of=??
[04:06] <cfa> should i download the win drivers
[04:06] <rawtek> yes if you can get a hold of the win driver in .inf format
[04:06] <rawtek> do you have a disk
[04:06] <intelikey> balfour where ever you have room for it file.img
[04:06] <rawtek> that came with the pc
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> can someone explain ssh -x to me?
[04:07] <cfa> ok i will and i have a usb disk
[04:07] <balfour> intelikey: How do I get it to dump the .img file to my HD-installed Breezy ~ folder?
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> bluefox@icebox:~$ ssh -x rusty@192.168.1.100
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> rusty@192.168.1.100's password:
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> rusty@icegate:~$ gedit
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> (gedit:21334): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> mainly, why in the fuck it doesn't work for me, ever.
[04:07] <cfa> rawtek going now to download
[04:07] <intelikey> point it at the mount point blafour
[04:07] <balfour> bluefoxicy: Language, please.
[04:07] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Did you export your display?
[04:08] <rawtek> ok i will be here ; cfa
[04:08] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  no, how exactly is that done?
[04:08] <balfour> intelikey: I'm using the live CD, it'll go to the one on the CD, won't it?
[04:08] <balfour> intelikey: Or the ramdisk?
[04:08] <rawtek> cfa do you have an IM client
[04:08] <bluefoxicy> oh
[04:08] <bluefoxicy> holy crap, it's -X
[04:08] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Obviously you know X is a client <--> server model. From the remote host, try: export DISPLAY=your.ip.address:0.0
[04:08] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  it's -X, not -x
[04:09] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Oh, ha
[04:09] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  excuse me for reading BSD mailing lists where nobody knows what a shift key is.
[04:09] <intelikey> balfour like 'dd if=/dev/hdb of=/media/hda/file.img '   or where ever your hd is mounted.
[04:09] <balfour> Ok, thanks.
[04:09] <rawtek> can I make the PC beep when someone writes specifically to me?
[04:09] <cmcnamar> i'm trying to install the realplayer
[04:10] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: You should try out nx, I am quite spoiled to it. And it is much faster than raw XDMP
[04:10] <balfour> intelikey: But I'm not sure where its mounted, and there's nothing in /media.
[04:10] <cmcnamar> but the restrictedformats web page
[04:10] <intelikey> rawtek xchat has that ability
[04:10] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  i'm on breezy.  FreeNX isn't integrated
[04:10] <cmcnamar> says that there's a support package I'm supposed to have
[04:10] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: I believe that seveas's repo has packages, so yes it is :)
[04:10] <cmcnamar> how do I get htis package?
[04:10] <rawtek> I am using that how do i set it
[04:10] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  I searched a week ago for freenx.
[04:10] <intelikey> balfour ' df '    or     'mount '   either should tell you.
[04:10] <Madpilot> cmcnamar: the package has a name?
[04:10] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  and just now.  Nothing.
[04:10] <cmcnamar> i don't know what the name is!
[04:10] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Didn't search hard enough: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/freenx/
[04:11] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  that's not in breezy, that's additional :)
[04:11] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: The developers are all kde developers for freenx
[04:11] <cfa> rawtek i download the drives, but it is an .exe
[04:11] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: your point being? It works fine
[04:11] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: And it goes through ssh
[04:11] <cmcnamar> it just says there's a "support package needed by realplayer" that i'm supposed to install
[04:11] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  oh jesus that means it'll take for eternity for gdm/freenx integration.
[04:11] <rawtek> ok so you have to unzip t
[04:11] <cheeby> hello
[04:11] <cfa> rawtek, ok
[04:11] <cfa> rawtek, 1 sec
[04:12] <rawtek> terminal unzip file name.exe
[04:12] <Madpilot> cmcnamar: read the stuff in the tan box - that mentions which addtional file you need
[04:12] <AwaySword> hello
[04:12] <intelikey> balfour also if you know that your hd is hda but it's not mounted you can 'fdisk /dev/hda -l ' to list the partitions on hda...  then mount it some place with 'sudo mount /dev/hda# /mount/point '
[04:12] <AwaySword> can somebody help me
[04:13] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Redhat had a guy working on vnc <--> gdm integration right before nx was released. Don't know what happened though
[04:13] <cmcnamar> what tan box?
[04:13] <myrth_> GTK styles and fonts doesn't start from settings.... what's the command line so i can see which error it gives?
[04:13] <cheeby> is there a quick debian way to add drivers and support for wireless?  I have a linksys wmp11.
[04:13] <cheeby> (desktop pc)
[04:13] <ohmannnnn> ok the friendly people at #freenode say the user "oskude" is muted here, may i ask why ??????
[04:13] <rawtek> cheeby ndiswrapper
[04:14] <Madpilot> cmcnamar: in the RealPlayer section of RestrictedFormats, there is a box that starts "cd ~/Desktop" - please read that box
[04:14] <SEJeff> cheeby: Install ndisgtk from universe
[04:14] <cfa> rawtek, unzip did nt work
[04:14] <cfa> not
[04:14] <AwaySword> how can i synchronise the time in my linux?
[04:14] <cheeby> does ndiswrapper require Windows drivers?
[04:14] <rawtek> yes
[04:14] <rawtek> cfa not sure where to go from here
[04:14] <rawtek> hold on
[04:14] <Shadow_pillar> BTW
[04:14] <Madpilot> AwaySword: right click on the clock, choose "Adjust Time & Date" - then pick an NTP server
[04:14] <balfour> intelikey: And is there a utility to undelete files?
[04:14] <fletch33> i think trying to switch to linux or ubu is the hardest thing ive evr done and i have done a lot of hard stuff
[04:14] <AwaySword> can't
[04:14] <balfour> fletch33: Nonsense.
[04:14] <AwaySword> it won't startup that time and date thingy
[04:15] <cheeby> SEJeff, can you tell me how that command would be phrased?
[04:15] <balfour> fletch33: Its not that hard.
[04:15] <SEJeff> fletch33, ubuntu is easy
[04:15] <fletch33> i really want htis to work
[04:15] <kestas> is there any method to the madness in the ubuntu version numbering scheme?
[04:15] <cheeby> apt-get install ndisgtk... ?
[04:15] <SEJeff> cheeby: Open up synaptic
[04:15] <balfour> fletch33: You could have been using slackware or gentoo.
[04:15] <Madpilot> AwaySword: what happens when you try and start it?
[04:15] <fletch33> i cant figure it out
[04:15] <AwaySword> it just won't start
[04:15] <ohmannnnn> could be that i (oskude) got "auto-muted" cause i used "ubotu" too often ? (wihtout /msg)
[04:15] <balfour> fletch33: Uh oh.
[04:15] <SEJeff> cheeby: Yes, as long as you have universe enabled, do you?
[04:15] <fletch33> and i know windows inside and out
[04:15] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  I made this insane post on gnome's bugzilla about using gpg keys and the pgp global keyserver for an e-mail/signature authentication method, with user<->email mapping to get user/signature authentication.
[04:15] <DShepherd> fletch33: apt-get install easy-ubuntu :)
[04:15] <cheeby> SEJeff, not sure ... still installing.
[04:15] <Shadow_pillar> take notes: to all who complain about not being able to play realmedia and wmv files, find a w32codecs deb package, then install totem-xine
[04:15] <intelikey> yes. mc has a recovery method built in it, but i'v never used it. balfour
[04:15] <cfa> rawtek, i tried to unzip the .exe file, was that what i suppose to do
[04:15] <fletch33> what is that
[04:16] <Madpilot> AwaySword: "just won't start" isn't all that helpful... does Gnome give you an error message, or what?
[04:16] <DShepherd> fletch33: its a joke
[04:16] <fletch33> i just started thng up 2 days agois thi
[04:16] <fletch33> ok thanks
[04:16] <fletch33> lol
[04:16] <fletch33> ha ha ha ha
[04:16] <DShepherd> lol
[04:16] <intelikey> balfour there may be other ways...  best to not remove things you want to keep.
[04:16] <Shadow_pillar> gstreamer is absolute shit and shouldnt be included in ubuntu just yet
[04:16] <fletch33> bad typing sorry
[04:16] <ohmannnnn> any channel admins here ?
[04:16] <cheeby> SEJeff, this is kubuntu, so will kpackage work?
[04:16] <SEJeff> cheeby: I don't use kubuntu
[04:16] <balfour> intelikey: No, many things were accidentally deleted by Asterisk@Home setup, is there a way to get anything at all back?
[04:17] <SEJeff> cheeby: I guess it would, but I don't know how to enable universe with kpackage
[04:17] <cheeby> SEJeff, ok.  Just thought you'd know.
[04:17] <fletch33> all i really want to do at the moment is get my contacts and email form outlook to evolution
[04:17] <AwaySword> and in my terminal i get the error : sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 13 05:00:34 2005
[04:17] <rawtek> yes
[04:17] <fletch33> but i have been trying for 2 days
[04:17] <cheeby> SEJeff, what is the text file to edit so as to enable 'universe' ?
[04:17] <rawtek> folks how do we unzip a windows executable
[04:17] <intelikey> balfour if they were rm'd and things added after that probably not.
[04:17] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Most of your posts (lkml, ubuntu-devel) seem to be insane :-)
[04:17] <jrsims> ok, installed apache - now how do I start it?
[04:17] <balfour> intelikey: Nothing was added afterwards, it was just rm'd.
[04:17] <SEJeff> cheeby: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:17] <cheeby> SEJeff, cool.  thanks.
[04:17] <fletch33> i converted my eamil with thhunderbird but evo wont let me import it
[04:18] <rawtek> cfa: see if you can find just the driver (not the exe
[04:18] <cheeby> SEJeff, are you using wireless?
[04:18] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=320279
[04:18] <intelikey> balfour then yes,  but as to how to i'll have to back out on that and say good luck.
[04:18] <fletch33> can u recommend some reading or a book or something so i can start to figure this out
[04:18] <balfour> intelikey: Um, thanks.
[04:18] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  I'm of the persuasion that a GPG key should be the new identity.
[04:19] <intelikey> np
[04:19] <AwaySword> so i need to sync my clock to my terminal clock right madpilot?
[04:19] <SEJeff> cheeby: I use wpa
[04:19] <fletch33> at least the basics i want to get away from windows and into this but i dont know where to star
[04:19] <rawtek> cfa; do you not have a disk that cam with the pc
[04:19] <rawtek> came
[04:19] <DShepherd> fletch33: doc about ubuntu?
[04:19] <Madpilot> AwaySword: no idea... the Adjust Time & Date thing should work for you. Do any sudo functions work? Synaptic?
[04:19] <fletch33> yeah if that is possible
[04:19] <fletch33> basic commands or how to get and install softwqare
[04:19] <Madpilot> fletch33: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[04:19] <AwaySword> sudo gives error
[04:20] <cfa> rawtek, i did the linux drivers, i will look for the other win drives, yes i have the CD
[04:20] <DShepherd> fletch33:http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[04:20] <balfour> Can anyone else tell me how to undelete a file under the Hoary Live CD?
[04:20] <AwaySword> and synaptic won't start either
[04:20] <Madpilot> AwaySword: which error?
[04:20] <AwaySword> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 13 05:00:34 2005
[04:20] <Madpilot> AwaySword: and please start your posts w/ people's nicks - thanks...
[04:20] <rawtek> i only know how to use ndiswrapper with windows drivers, that is what it was designed for
[04:20] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: You should send in patches to do that. It would be very nice
[04:20] <rawtek> I have no experience with linux drivers
[04:20] <fletch33> i out 2 folders on my desktop and know they have a lock on them and ubu wont let me delete them
[04:21] <AwaySword> ok Madpilot
[04:21] <fletch33> sorry i dont type well opr really slow
[04:21] <intelikey> did someone say sync clocks ?
[04:21] <necator> WOOT ANJUTA WORKS JUST LIKE MY WINDOWS IDE!
[04:21] <AwaySword> <--
[04:21] <cfa> SEJeff how did u get wpa to work, is you wireless builtin and what chip set r u using
[04:21] <SEJeff> rawtek: In linux, there aren't "drivers" per se. They are called modules and are generally shipped with the kernel
[04:21] <balfour> necator: That's the goal.
[04:21] <AwaySword> intelikey, me
[04:21] <rawtek> the cd may contain the .inf files you need
[04:21] <Madpilot> intelikey: AwaySword has some sort of clock problem
[04:21] <intelikey> ntpdate pool.ntp.org && hwclock --systohc
[04:21] <balfour> necator: many things ni Ubuntu are designed to look similiar to things in Windows.
[04:21] <SEJeff> cfa: It is a PITA. Google for wpa_supplicant. I am not going to help you set it up
[04:22] <intelikey> AwaySword ^
[04:22] <necator> balfour i am basically trying to eliminate windows completelly.
[04:22] <jrsims> quit
[04:22] <balfour> necator: I actually keep one Windows box around, just in case.
[04:22] <balfour> necator: But everything else is Linux.
[04:22] <fletch33> d how do i get rid of those floders
[04:22] <necator> balfour but i found gaming in linux is becomming a hassle so i might keep my win os around just to install some of my games when i get them in a few months.
[04:22] <AwaySword> intelikey, 13 Nov 04:22:15 ntpdate[9182] : bind() fails: Permission denied
[04:22] <rawtek> so i guess you could modprobe the module if you kneew whichine
[04:22] <rawtek> one
[04:22] <balfour> necator: That's a good idea.
[04:22] <necator> balfour but i been looking thru my windows and writing dow nthe stuff i use since i am new to linux.
[04:22] <DShepherd> balfour: just in case iof wat?
[04:22] <cfa> SEJeff r u using breezy
[04:22] <necator> balfour and am trying to find ways to do the same stuff in linux.
[04:22] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Did you mean PKE towards the end?
[04:22] <intelikey> sudo them AwaySword
[04:22] <balfour> DShepherd: Better safe then sorry.
[04:22] <SEJeff> cfa: dapper
[04:22] <Lord2k> Hi. Is there any other method I could use to install Ubuntu besides burning it onto a cd? My burner is somewhere else and there is no possible way I can obtain it tonight.
[04:23] <balfour> DShepherd: For any reason at all, its still useful to keep a Windows box aroudn.
[04:23] <rawtek> how is dapper working out for you
[04:23] <fletch33> ok thanks dshepherd i am going to read be back later with stupid questions
[04:23] <cfa> is that out
[04:23] <necator> balfour problem now is im reformating soon and not sure how much hdd space to give to windows.
[04:23] <AwaySword> intelikey, sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 13 05:00:34 2005
[04:23] <DShepherd> fletch33: yeah later
[04:23] <balfour> necator: What version of Windows?
[04:23] <necator> balfour xp
[04:23] <rawtek> SEJeff; how is dapper working for you
[04:23] <DShepherd> balfour: kool. I just wanted t know why
[04:23] <balfour> bluefoxicy: Give it 3 gigs for a core install.
[04:23] <SEJeff> rawtek: Nothing is broken yet except for ipod support. I really like it. Once x.org 7.0 is released in Dec and that gets put in dapper, it might be rough for a bit
[04:24] <ohmannnnn> could some1 say why "oskude" got banned ?
[04:24] <balfour> bluefoxicy: Sorry,that was stupid of me.
[04:24] <balfour> necator: Give it 3.5 gigs for the core, another gig or 2 per game if they're really new games.
[04:24] <intelikey> lol AwaySword man idk.....      do this 'sudo bash '    and in that shell run the command 'ntpdate pool.ntp.org && hwclock --systohc'  it should work.....
[04:24] <fletch33> man i will trade something for someone to join me in any instant messenger for some personal training on a few things
[04:24] <necator> balfour if i reformat my windows do i have to redo the entire hard drive? like reconfigure linux also?
[04:24] <cfa> rawtek BRB going to Atheros for the drives, i have the CD for the laptop, but it is at work
[04:24] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: nvm. X.509 is really good
[04:25] <fletch33> like maybe an invite to www.oink.me.uk
[04:25] <AwaySword> intelikey,  again
[04:25] <Duvel> jaja
[04:25] <intelikey> yeah
[04:25] <balfour> necator: No, if you reformat your windows "drive", as Windows sees it, only the windows partition is affected.
[04:25] <gteppel> I tried to follow the instructions in the Ubunutu FAQ Guide to add universe and multiverse sources to my sources.list. when i do a apt-get update it works fine except for this server: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:25] <gteppel> . What might be wrong???
[04:25] <gteppel> also what is the difference between multiverse and universe
[04:25] <balfour> Windows "drives" are actually just windows-formatted partitions.
[04:25] <AwaySword> intelikey,  again same error
[04:25] <rawtek> just change apt sources config file references to breezy to dapper and go for it, right SEJeff
[04:25] <necator> balfour the windows install disc will only see the windows partion? and install to there only?
[04:25] <SEJeff> rawtek: That is correct
[04:25] <DShepherd> gteppel: mul
[04:25] <balfour> necator: Pretty much, but then it screws up the MBR.
[04:25] <_native_> paging Dr. watson greenthumb.
[04:25] <necator> balfour so either way my linux will be ruined then?
[04:26] <balfour> necator: No, there's ways to restore GRUB or LILO.
[04:26] <intelikey> AwaySword i've never seen that error and i've had the system clock years off on this box....
[04:26] <DShepherd> gteppel: sorry mult--- that's right
[04:26] <balfour> necator: I'm just not sure of them.
[04:26] <necator> balfour maybe it will be healthy to reformat my linux too? even tho this was my first install ever of linux and its been pretty tuff setting everything up.
[04:26] <SEJeff> gteppel: multiverse contains software that is not open source or has legal issues in some countries (mp3, divx support, flash player, adobe acrobad reader, etc)
[04:26] <AwaySword> :(
[04:26] <gteppel> SEJeff: okay
[04:26] <necator> balfour so thats what i would have to do reinstall a boot loader?
[04:26] <trincamckee> can someone help me here: ttp://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7766/multiplexfce0fa.jpg , i have to xfce session entriesm how can i delete one of them?
[04:26] <necator> balfour thats what windows would mess up?
[04:26] <myrth_> which package includes gtk-config?
[04:26] <SEJeff> gteppel: universe is just a ton of extra software that isn't officially supported, but still works fine 99.9% of the time
[04:26] <balfour> necator: Yeah, just install a bootloader, that's all that Windows would mess up.
[04:26] <intelikey> AwaySword google the error
[04:26] <AwaySword> intelikey,  :(
[04:27] <balfour> necator: Although I could be mistaken, it may want to wipe the drive.
[04:27] <necator> balfour would the breezy cd have that on there?
[04:27] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  oh shit
[04:27] <gteppel> The only multiverse server in my breezy install doesn't work... are there others?
[04:27] <balfour> necator: Yes, the Breezy CD would.
[04:27] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  this samsung CLP-510 says it's linux compatible, but you actually have to install drivers for it o_o
[04:27] <necator> balfour would i have to reinstall breezy to be bale to use that bootloader or is it just a nice option waiting for such situations?
[04:27] <intelikey> sorry AwaySword, that's standard clock syncronization i gave you.
[04:27] <balfour> necator: I don't know.
[04:27] <necator> balfour if i deep freeze my windows theres no real need for anti virus and firewall and such there right?
[04:27] <cheeby> SEJeff, are there any docs for setting up wireless on the ubuntulinux site?  I can't seem to find any.
[04:27] <balfour> necator: Firewall, you shuold defenitely keep.
[04:28] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: bummer
[04:28] <rawtek> has anyone has trouble with the backorts
[04:28] <balfour> necator: Antivirus isn't nearly as needed, there's one in APT in case you do.
[04:28] <necator> balfour since im probally only going to be using it for gaming.
[04:28] <Madpilot> !tell cheeby about wireless
[04:28] <rawtek> ports
[04:28] <SEJeff> cheeby: Search the wiki and forums. There are a ton of docs
[04:28] <myrth_> how do i search for package by the file it includes?
[04:28] <balfour> necator: If you're not gonna use the Internet at all on Windows, nope.
[04:28] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  to make matters w orse, samsung's site goes to nowhere.
[04:28] <Duvel> anybody experience with bluetooth? want to use my se t610 to control for example xmms or bmp or whatever... it's possible in win...
[04:28] <bluefoxicy>  The resource cannot be found.
[04:28] <necator> balfour well for online gaming ya.
[04:28] <bluefoxicy> Description: HTTP 404. The resource you are looking for (or one of its dependencies) could have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. Please review the following URL and make sure that it is spelled correctly.
[04:28] <necator> balfour but no web surfing most liekly not.
[04:28] <foampeace> http://www.trevorvanmeter.com/flyguy/
[04:28] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Awesome
[04:28] <balfour> necator: Oh god no, use A/V and firewall on Windows if you're using the Internet at all.
[04:28] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff: http://www.samsung.com/Products/PrinterandMultifunction/ColorLaserPrinters/CLP_510XAA.asp  Do most of the images seem broken to you?
[04:29] <ohmannnnn> im VERY VERY sory that im a noob and used the bot too often wihtout "/msg", i learned my lesson and registered to beable to use "/msg". so please unban "oskude"...
[04:29] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Do you want me to tell you when that freeze issue with vSecurity is worked out so you can test it?
[04:29] <necator> balfour do i need a/v and firewall on linux?
[04:29] <cheeby> SEJeff, ok.  the initial scan revealed nothing.  But, I am dealing with a toddler here.
[04:29] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  more pertainently, does the 'drivers' link break?
[04:29] <cheeby> Thanks.
[04:29] <trincamckee> can someone help me here: ttp://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7766/multiplexfce0fa.jpg , i have to xfce session entriesm how can i delete one of them?
[04:29] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  yeah, alright; but I have an uptime of 64 days now ;)
[04:29] <rawtek> SEJeff; are the backports for breezy dwon
[04:29] <ian> Anybody have MythTV working on Breezy?
[04:29] <balfour> necator: a/v, not really, but its a good idea, firewall, absolutely.
[04:29] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  I'll try it on my laptop
[04:29] <rawtek> down
[04:29] <balfour> necator: Firestarter is a nice firewall.
[04:29] <Duvel> !botsnack
[04:30] <ubotu> :)
[04:30] <balfour> necator: !botsnack
[04:30] <bluefoxicy> oh god firestarter.
[04:30] <balfour> Woops.
[04:30] <Duvel> lol
[04:30] <balfour> !botsnack
[04:30] <kestas> firestarter isnt a firewall
[04:30] <ian> or even just TVTIME
[04:30] <necator> balfour is it preinstalled with ubuntu or is that something i do in apt?
[04:30] <Duvel> :d
[04:30] <kestas> it just configures other firewalls like iptables
[04:30] <balfour> necator: I take that back.
[04:30] <bluefoxicy> balfour:  if you use irc connection tracking, it'll break it :)
[04:30] <balfour> necator: HOWEVER.
[04:30] <bluefoxicy> err.
[04:30] <SEJeff> rawtek: I already said I was on dapper. I don't use breezy on my main desktop, only my work laptop and I don't use backports on it so I don't know
[04:30] <Duvel> !botsnack
[04:30] <ubotu> thanks duvel :)
[04:30] <balfour> necator: rob.pectol.com has Ubuntu-firewall, which is a commandline utility.
[04:30] <necator> balfour so ubuntu doesnt have firewall built in?
[04:30] <balfour> necator: It can also do internet connection sharing.
[04:30] <rawtek> SEJeff ; my fault forgot
[04:31] <balfour> necator: It does, but I'm not sure how to use it.
[04:31] <Shadowpillar> the default ubuntu kernel is horribly broken
[04:31] <Shadowpillar> requesting someone fix this
[04:31] <SEJeff> necator: There are 0 ports open on default ubuntu
[04:31] <kinkoblast> Are there any decent strategy games in the repos? (Example: Command and Conquer)
[04:31] <Shadowpillar> I sent the maintainer an email
[04:31] <SEJeff> Shadowpillar: funny, works horribly well for me
[04:31] <gteppel> what are breezy backports? apt-get update crashes on this server-> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[04:31] <Xenguy> necator: shorewall is worth a look if you don't require a GUI
[04:31] <balfour> kinkoblast: craft is good.
[04:31] <necator> xenguy i dont even know if i have a firewall or need to add one :p
[04:31] <Madpilot> kinkoblast: Battle for Wesnoth - not a RTS, but very good
[04:31] <SEJeff> necator: Do you want a firewall for a desktop or server?
[04:31] <Shadowpillar> SEJeff: when you have a 400 mhz cpu, the lack of pre-empt support is noticeable
[04:31] <Xenguy> necator: you don't have a firewall by default...
[04:31] <Shadowpillar> SEJeff: as in applications lock up easily
[04:32] <necator> sejeff im on a desktop.
[04:32] <Shadowpillar> SEJeff: and I cant use the GIMP
[04:32] <AwaySword> intelikey, i found it :)
[04:32] <Shadowpillar> SEJeff: 100% cpu usage when drawing
[04:32] <SEJeff> necator: apt-get install firestarter
[04:32] <necator> will i neeed anti virus and anti malware programs as well or just a firewall?
[04:32] <Xenguy> necator: adding one or not is your decision, and depends on your circumstances and needs really
[04:32] <balfour> necator: Just a firewall, but A/V is still a good idea if you're worried.
[04:32] <SEJeff> Shadowpillar: gnome/gtk isn't that great on a 400MHZ
[04:32] <necator> balfour isnt it not likely that id get a virus on linux?
[04:32] <Shadowpillar> SEJeff: I know it's the lack of pre-empt because I ran it with the 2.6.10 kernel and it's fine
[04:33] <SEJeff> necator: No, you don't need AV. This is linux.
[04:33] <balfour> necator: Its not likely, but its not impossible.
[04:33] <bluefoxicy> Shadowpillar:  yeah.  There's exactly one application that breaks from a bug in 2.6.12 preempt.
[04:33] <Xenguy> necator: AV is nice, but optional on linux; malware isn't usually a problem, but rkhunter and chkrootkit are good to have running IMHO
[04:33] <balfour> necator: Though if you're not absolutely paranoid, you don't need it.
[04:34] <Shadowpillar> SEJeff: well uh huh, yeah, but, like I said, it's the lack of pre-empt that is hurting my system
[04:34] <necator> theres so much i have to learn in the linux word it feels like im starting all over as a computer user =(
[04:34] <trincamckee> i have two xfce session entries how can i delete one of them? http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/7766/multiplexfce0fa.jpg , so that u can see waht im trying to say...
[04:34] <necator> i dont know where to go where to begin what to do next.
[04:34] <balfour> necator: That's part of the fun of it.
[04:34] <Shadowpillar> bluefoxicy: which is?
[04:34] <SEJeff> Shadowpillar: Yes, that is odd why it is off. I just grepped /boot/config* and you are right
[04:34] <bluefoxicy> Shadowpillar:  some optional network applet.
[04:34] <kinkoblast> SEJeff: Gnome is SLOW on anything below 500. XFCE is SO much better on older systems. (I like it better anyway, but that's me :-P)
[04:34] <SEJeff> Shadowpillar, # CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set
[04:34] <kbrooks> bbl bed
[04:34] <necator> balfour be nice if i could talk with some of u guys on aim finding people in here can be diffiuclt
[04:34] <balfour> necator: Oh you bet.
[04:34] <Fr0Gs> how can i get quake3 to work on ubuntu?
[04:34] <balfour> necator: Ubuntu has very good user support, as you've seen.
[04:34] <SEJeff> kinkoblast: But thanks to geniuses like federico, mattias, behad, etc... gnome 2.14+ will be much faster
[04:34] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff, Shadowpillar: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11906
[04:34] <balfour> necator: Much better than those 1-800 tech support numbers.
[04:35] <necator> balfour first time on linux all my research pointed me to ubuntu
[04:35] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  oh oh sweet, is 2.14 in beta?  :)
[04:35] <balfour> necator: And your research was right.
[04:35] <Shadowpillar> SEJeff: yep, I wonder if it's working in the 686 version
[04:35] <necator> balfour not to mention there was only 1 cd i had to download lol
[04:35] <kinkoblast> SEJeff: True. I'll still like XFCE better.
[04:35] <necator> balfour compared to the 2-3 cds the other distros were using.
[04:35] <balfour> necator: You could have gotten it for free in the mail.
[04:35] <_native_> tell frogs about quake3
[04:35] <_native_> !tell frogs about quake3
[04:35] <Shadowpillar> BlueEagle: so, because of some optional app, the whole system has to suffer instead of fixing that app?
[04:35] <Shadowpillar> er
[04:35] <necator> balfour i did get it for free.
[04:35] <Shadowpillar> bluefoxicy: so, because of some optional app, the whole system has to suffer instead of fixing that app?
[04:35] <ohmannnnn> any channel admins around ?
[04:35] <necator> balfour downloaded and burned within the same day
[04:35] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: From my machine right now: gnome-panel                           2.13.1-0ubuntu1
[04:35] <_native_> hum
[04:36] <balfour> necator: Right.
[04:36] <ian> apt-get remove doesnt seem to totally remove an application, what should I be using to remove all traces of a specific application?
[04:36] <necator> balfour do you have aim ? hard to conversate here and feels wrong since its more of a tech support spot it seems.
[04:36] <SEJeff> kinkoblast: So does my little sister. Most of my workstations are openbox or gnome. It depends
[04:36] <Shadowpillar> I have to rely on the standard kernel because I use the nvidia kernel module
[04:36] <balfour> necator: Just type /msg theblue and then your message to me.
[04:36] <SEJeff> necator: use /msg balfour
[04:36] <Shadowpillar> is it me or is each ubuntu release becoming more and more broken?
[04:36] <balfour> Woops.
[04:36] <tryingsomething> sure why not
[04:37] <SEJeff> Shadowpillar: It is you
[04:37] <tryingsomething> im converting to kubuntu
[04:37] <ohmannnnn> ubotu sucks :)
[04:37] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, ohmannnnn
[04:37] <kinkoblast> SEJeff: I agree. I know people who swear by KDE. I can't stand it. My REAL favorite is Aqua (Mac OS X) which is why I have Ubuntu on one moniter and 10.3.9 on the other :-)
[04:37] <tryingsomething> hehe
[04:37] <tryingsomething> how can you get aqua on kde ?
[04:37] <Fr0Gs> i need help installing quake 3
[04:38] <tryingsomething> quake 3 is easy
[04:38] <kinkoblast> tryingsomething: You can't.
[04:38] <tryingsomething> do a search in google
[04:38] <ohmannnnn> i got screwed by ubotu, who can unban my user ? :)
[04:38] <kinkoblast> .zel
[04:39] <tryingsomething> anyone use 6800 nvidia with ubuntu?
[04:39] <tryingsomething> what driver do u use?
[04:39] <tryingsomething> which rather
[04:39] <LoneWolf071> does anyone here use hydra? or can recommend any network logon crackers?
[04:39] <tryingsomething> do you download nvidia's and compile or use the one that came with ubuntu?
[04:39] <feugan3333> hi all. Anyone know what package contains the "termlib" library?
[04:39] <tryingsomething> search synaptic
[04:39] <tryingsomething> it will tell u
[04:39] <ian> Anyone have a Hauppauge PVR card working ith breezy...?
[04:39] <SEJeff> LoneWolf071: hydra is very good
[04:39] <cfa> rawtek i have not found the drivers, just the linux ones. i need to run make and the kernelpath is not set right. do u know where the kernel is? do i need to install it if it is not in /usr/linux/src
[04:40] <ohmannnnn> i got a miroPCTV working on breezy :)
[04:40] <kinkoblast> :-( Finder spoiled me, any other file manager doesn't feel right anymore.
[04:40] <SEJeff> cfa: /usr/src/linux
[04:40] <ian> ohmannnnn, whats that exactly?
[04:40] <cfa> SEJeff it is not there
[04:40] <SEJeff> kinkoblast: You need to look at beagle + deskbar. That will spoil you
[04:40] <ohmannnnn> ian, i analog tv decoder
[04:40] <LoneWolf071> SEJeff, have you ever gottern the SSH cracker for it working?
[04:41] <tryingsomething> finder is da best
[04:41] <ian> ohmannnnn, does it use the ivtv driver?
[04:41] <blackhat> Whats a good program from copying DVDs like DVDDecrypter (for linux)
[04:41] <DShepherd> tryingsomething: I agree so far. Beagle has promis though
[04:41] <ohmannnnn> ian, dont think so, its like atleast 5years old card (bttv driver)
[04:41] <tryingsomething> hmm beagle
[04:41] <DShepherd> promise*
[04:41] <tryingsomething> will check out
[04:41] <LoneWolf071> blackhat, you use hydra or any network logon crackers?
[04:41] <SEJeff> tryingsomething: Have you ever used deskbar with beagle integration?
[04:41] <tryingsomething> what's best way to find it on google or is it on sourceforge?
[04:42] <tryingsomething> no
[04:42] <blackhat> no
[04:42] <SEJeff> tryingsomething: you are really missing out
[04:42] <blackhat> also whats a good program to burn DVD and CD iso files.
[04:42] <kinkoblast> blackhat: VLC can do it in theory, but i never quite got it working (got sound, but not video. Probably would work if I chose something other than Theora.)
[04:42] <DShepherd> tryingsomething: google is your friend ;)
[04:42] <tryingsomething> ok im checking it out lol
[04:42] <SEJeff> tryingsomething: sudo apt-get install deskbar
[04:42] <ian> ohmannnnn, oh ok. thanks anyway.
[04:42] <LoneWolf071> SEJeff, have you ever gottern the SSH cracker for it working?
[04:42] <ohmannnnn> Seveas, are you there ?
[04:42] <tryingsomething> ok
[04:42] <SEJeff> LoneWolf071: I'm not going to talk about penetration testing on #ubuntu sorry
[04:42] <tryingsomething> apt get ok
[04:42] <tryingsomething> im booted into windows currently though
[04:43] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  holy shit~
[04:43] <tryingsomething> will try soon though
[04:43] <LoneWolf071> ok, thanks
[04:43] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  the 2.12 release notes apparently whisper that Gnome will be available for Windows in 2.14
[04:43] <LoneWolf071> SEJeff, can you point me to a room where i can get info?
[04:43] <SEJeff> LoneWolf071: Last time I gave a brief tutorial on wireless hacking and I had 50 people /msg me next time I logged in
[04:43] <ian> Any TvTime experts out there....?
[04:43] <kinkoblast> trysomething: Uninstall it. If you are going to use a proppritary os, make it be! be is nice.
[04:43] <tryingsomething> oh beagle is that spotlight type app
[04:43] <tryingsomething> cool
[04:43] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff: "And now many more GNOME libraries, including ORBit2, libbonobo, libgnome, libbonoboui, libgnomeui and gnome-vfs, can build on Microsoft Windows, making it easier to build and distribute GNOME applications on that platform. While this support is not yet complete, it may be sufficient for some applications, and is expected to be complete in the next release of GTK+ and GNOME."
[04:43] <tryingsomething> ithink i heard of it
[04:43] <ohmannnnn> <<< got scruwed by a bot, lol :)
[04:43] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: link blease
[04:43] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff: http://gnome.org/start/2.12/notes/en/rndevelopers.html  At the bottom, read into it.
[04:43] <DShepherd> bluefoxicy: really kool!!
[04:44] <Shadowpillar> bluefoxicy: thus, might be possible for ubuntu over windows
[04:44] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  they're saying that some gnome apps should be buildable on Windows now, but it's not complete; but that full Windows support for all gnome libraries should be ready in the next release.
[04:44] <LoneWolf071> SEJeff, can you point me to a room where i can get info?
[04:44] <kinkoblast> Now, id only they would get GTK working on OS X.
[04:44] <cfa> SEJeff in a standard install, is the kernel src not install, because it is not in /usr/linux/src
[04:44] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  And full support for all gnome applications on windows.
[04:44] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: But hal needs kernel support and thats what gives gnome the hardware "just works" coolness factor
[04:44] <ohmannnnn> !abantest1
[04:44] <ubotu> ohmannnnn: Not a clue
[04:44] <ohmannnnn> !abantest2
[04:44] <ubotu> ohmannnnn: I haven't a clue
[04:44] <Shadowpillar> kinkoblast: I thought gtk was working on OSX already?
[04:44] <ohmannnnn> !abantest3
[04:44] <ubotu> No idea, ohmannnnn
[04:44] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  This leads into gnome, being a gnome app itself, working on windows, ne?
[04:44] <ohmannnnn> !abantest5
[04:45] <ubotu> ohmannnnn: Are you smoking crack?
[04:45] <ohmannnnn> !abantest6
[04:45] <ubotu> ohmannnnn: Not a clue
[04:45] <SEJeff> LoneWolf071: www.packetstormsecurity.org. Do some reading and figure it out. hyrdra is easy to use
[04:45] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  heh.  Gnome would probably have to re-hal for windows.  :P
[04:45] <nickrud> ohmannnnn, you were banned by an op, not the bot
[04:45] <kinkoblast> Shadowpiller: I never got it working. I never even got sdl working.
[04:45] <LoneWolf071> SEJeff, i know how to use it, but the SSh mod needs libSSh which is not really working, but TY for the help
[04:45] <blackhat> also whats a good program to burn DVD and CD *.iso files.
[04:45] <wickedpuppy> k3b
[04:45] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: gnome being a gtk "app" could possibly work on windows. But hal would likely suck for some time if ported to windows. It would need to be rewrote
[04:45] <ohmannnnn> nickrud, oh, you know by who, and why ?
[04:45] <ian> wickedpuppy, Singaporean?
[04:46] <blackhat> Thats KED
[04:46] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  yes, likely.  What exactly does HAL do, besides pop up a nautilus window when my USB drive is inserted :)
[04:46] <kinkoblast> Ubotu is naughty. He thinks fuck is a good word.
[04:46] <ubotu> kinkoblast: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[04:46] <blackhat> I use gnome I don't feel like installing 118mb to burn isos.
[04:46] <blackhat> whats a good program that allows me to burn isos to dvd or cds and is gui
[04:46] <cfa> rawtek u there
[04:46] <durt> blackhat: cdrecord
[04:46] <ohmannnnn> blackhat, gnomebaker
[04:46] <ohmannnnn> :)
[04:46] <nickrud> I happened to be skimming both then and now, bot abuse apparently was the reason, Seveas was the op.
[04:46] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: gnome-volume-manager does that :)
[04:46] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  my point is though, that's a really big hint that gnome for Windows is coming.
[04:47] <dooglus> blackhat: right-click the .iso file in nautilus and say 'burn iso' or some such
[04:47] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: hal is what allows gnome-volume-manager to work. It is also what allows all of the hardware to integrate so well in gnome
[04:47] <kinkoblast> Ubotu: if x=3 what is 2x^2?
[04:47] <ubotu> kinkoblast: what are you talking about?
[04:47] <ian> wickedpuppy, u there?
[04:47] <kinkoblast> ubotu: Green people
[04:47] <ubotu> kinkoblast: Are you on ritalin?
[04:47] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Take a look at opensolaris, hal won't run on the solaris kernel. Gnome kind of sucks without hal
[04:47] <kinkoblast> (i'm done now_
[04:47] <ohmannnnn> nickrud, how do you know i (oskude) was banned by op ?
[04:48] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  all of the hardware being NIC, screen resolution, sound card and volume mixer, and uSB drives?
[04:48] <dreumah> hello anyone know a microsoft avi codec player?
[04:48] <nickrud> ohmannnnn, you can look it up at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[04:48] <kinkoblast> dreuma: vlc
[04:48] <kinkoblast> !vlc
[04:48] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[04:48] <ohmannnnn> nickrud, checking
[04:48] <cfa> SEJeff in a standard install, is the kernel src not install, because it is not in /usr/linux/src
[04:48] <bluefoxicy> cfa:  /usr/src/linux, and no.
[04:48] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: any removable media, hid devices like mice and wireless keyboards, usb anything, etc
[04:49] <ubuntuamr> ola, alguem aqui manja de parties para caralho, estou com um probleminha
[04:49] <SEJeff> cfa: I know that. Install the kernel-headers
[04:49] <ubuntuamr> in english here ?
[04:49] <kestas> guys how can I make hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdb stick when I reset?
[04:49] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  do you think we REALLY need better post-install hardware detection on the install side?
[04:49] <SEJeff> cfa: And like I pointed out, the correct directory is /usr/src/linux
[04:49] <ubuntuamr> algum brasileiro ?
[04:49] <RedRose> after upgrading to breezy from hoary, hplip was added to my users, and ports 1025-1026 were opened, why?
[04:49] <cfa> ok thanx, can i add with Synap
[04:49] <dooglus> kestas: you can run it from /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[04:49] <kestas> dooglus, thanks
[04:49] <RedRose> and hpssh and hpiod are running
[04:49] <balfour> !tell balfour about quake3
[04:50] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: I think we need the idea that Microsoft wants for Vista about hardware
[04:50] <cfa> yes. sorry i know
[04:50] <kinkoblast> ubuntuamr: English please. None of us speak (Portugeese?)
[04:50] <dreumah> hello anyone know a microsoft avi codec player?
[04:50] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  Try this when you have a chance.  Get an nVidia card, and a radeon.  Install ubuntu with the nvidia card (don't worry about hardware accelerator, just install and let it use 'nv'), and then shutdown and swap to the radeon
[04:50] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  When you boot back up, GDM fails to start.
[04:50] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Replace the motherboard and all of the components minus the harddrive, boot the system, and everything works perfectly
[04:50] <RedRose> what is hplips?
[04:50] <kinkoblast> dreumah: VLC! (sudo apt-get vlc)
[04:50] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  I've done that!
[04:50] <dreumah> i tried vlc it doesnt work
[04:50] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: I believe that.
[04:50] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  It's been like that forever, minus the video card drivers changing.
[04:51] <dooglus> dreumah: pretty much any player with play .avi movies if you have the codecs
[04:51] <bluefoxicy> dreumah:  use xine-ui
[04:51] <tryingsomething> i hate ati
[04:51] <tryingsomething> ati sucks
[04:51] <dreumah> tried that too
[04:51] <tryingsomething> dont buy ati
[04:51] <dreumah> it seems to not work on any of the players
[04:51] <dooglus> tryingsomething: what's wrong with ati?
[04:51] <kestas> dooglus, hdparm -k 1 /dev/dvd will make it keep the settings you set
[04:51] <ohmannnnn> nickrud, lol, a 2mb html, waiting for render...
[04:51] <tryingsomething> they dont support linux
[04:51] <kinkoblast> dreumah: It's probably DRMed then. Try Windows Media Player.
[04:51] <dooglus> kestas: it will?  cool.
[04:51] <ubuntuamr> I need help with partitions. Any can help-me ?
[04:51] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: hal would detect the new card. It would be up to a user space daemon to change the x.org configuration
[04:52] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  which we don't have.
[04:52] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: the infrastructure is in place, it's just very new and in rapid development
[04:52] <dreumah> how do i do that in ubuntu?
[04:52] <dooglus> tryingsomething: they do
[04:52] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: Why don't you write something :)
[04:52] <kinkoblast> dreumah: wine might work.
[04:52] <bluefoxicy> SEJeff:  because I don't fully understand the technical implications.
[04:52] <kinkoblast> any
[04:52] <RedRose> what is HPLIP/HPSSH/HPIOD and why after updating did they get installed on my PC?
[04:52] <dooglus> tryingsomething: https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=300 is ati linux drivers
[04:52] <SEJeff> RedRose: For HP printers I believe
[04:52] <dreumah> i dont know how to use wine
[04:52] <nickrud> RedRose, they are hp specific, for the office jet & psc stuff
[04:53] <wickedpuppy> dreumah, wine /path/to/exe.exe
[04:53] <RedRose> but why did they install on my machine? is there an apt log?
[04:53] <RedRose> maybe i accidently installed it via apt
[04:53] <SEJeff> bluefoxicy: I got one of the ATI 9250 cards. EXA works really well so I get some luminosity wobbly windows style love
[04:54] <SEJeff> RedRose: Likely a dep of something
[04:54] <DShepherd> SEJeff: what is EXA?
[04:54] <RedRose> yeah...
[04:54] <kinkoblast> Kelkaj Esprantlingvo parolantoj?
[04:54] <RedRose> so is there an apt log of download things?
[04:54] <wickedpuppy> kinkoblast, english pls
[04:54] <dooglus> RedRose: /var/log/dpkg.log I think
[04:54] <SEJeff> RedRose: /var/log/dpkg.log
[04:54] <SEJeff> yep
[04:55] <kinkoblast> wickedpuppy: Any Esperanto speakers?
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> !es
[04:55] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:55] <RedRose> k
[04:55] <dooglus> that's espanol, not esperanto :)
[04:55] <Agrajag> esperanto is eo
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> oh
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> !eo
[04:55] <ubotu> Wish i knew, wickedpuppy
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:56] <wickedpuppy> i wish i know too ubotu
[04:56] <dcarpenter> k
[04:56] <SEJeff> DShepherd: http://www.freedesktop.org/~jonsmirl/graphics.html it makes things like xcompmgr more usable
[04:56] <kinkoblast> Esperanto is a supported install language. too.
[04:56] <kinkoblast> !esperanto
[04:56] <ubotu> kinkoblast: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[04:56] <cfa> how do i add the linux src to /usr/src/linux
[04:56] <ohmannnnn> this was the newest i found http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-2005-11-12.html and theres not mentioned why/how "oskude" got banned...
[04:56] <Agrajag> what about lojban
[04:56] <DShepherd> SEJeff: ok
[04:56] <ubuntuamr> a have 5 partitions on my hd, but last weekend, had I instaled the win xp for my wife and my partitions are not visible now, when I try to install the kubuntu 5.10, simply show the partition windows on hda1, but I can mount the other partition exiting of the instalation and going to the terminal. What can I do ?
[04:56] <nickrud> ohmannnnn, RedRose is gone (I need to stop talking where while I work, I can't keep up)
[04:56] <nickrud> heh, oh, man ;(
[04:56] <SEJeff> cfa: sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers
[04:57] <ohmannnnn> nickrud, RedRose banned me ?
[04:57] <nickrud> nosilver4u, bad nick completion
[04:57] <cfa> great thanx
[04:57] <nickrud> again
[04:58] <nickrud> ohmannnnn, I guess #ubuntu is to fast for a current, I didn't check.
[04:58] <fletch33> man i hat e to do this bit i really need some advoce on how to fix this and what it means
[04:58] <fletch33> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:58] <fletch33> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:58] <fletch33> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:58] <fletch33> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:58] <rob1> grr
[04:58] <fletch33> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:58] <fletch33> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:58] <Madpilot> !tell fletch33 about paste
[04:58] <fletch33> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:58] <rob1> fletch33, don't paste that here
[04:58] <nickrud> fletch33, one line would have been enough
[04:58] <ohmannnnn> nickrud, i just wonder how u know (oskude) was banned by op ?
[04:58] <fletch33> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:58] <fletch33> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_di
[04:58] <fletch33> sorry
[04:59] <fletch33> i know that was bad buit
[04:59] <nickrud> ohmannnnn, I keep irc logs, since they're already out on the net.
[04:59] <kinkoblast> !esperanto
[04:59] <fletch33> sorry i didnt know what to do
[04:59] <ubotu> it has been said that esperanto is the international language. (Esperanto estas la lingva internacia)   More info at http://www.lernu.net
[04:59] <necator> what is a file that ends in .o?
[04:59] <fletch33> i am really really sorry
[04:59] <fletch33> can u help
[04:59] <kinkoblast> necator: Object code.
[04:59] <necator> kinkoblast is that like an executeable of my source then?
[04:59] <fletch33> i cant get breezy or the other stuff
[05:00] <necator> fletch33 go into your reposties and turn off the ones that say backports on it.
[05:00] <gerbman> fletch, you can paste stuff here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ and link to it
[05:00] <ohmannnnn> <<< is confused about pannig policy, didnt even get a warning...
[05:00] <kinkoblast> necator: An intermediate step.
[05:00] <fletch33> ok how
[05:00] <nickrud> fletch33, there still must not be any breezy backports, comment them out
[05:00] <ohmannnnn> *panning = banning
[05:00] <fletch33> where
[05:00] <necator> kinkoblast can u explain? im new to compiling and stuff on linux.
[05:00] <nickrud> fletch33, in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:00] <durt> necator: you want to make an executable with gcc?
[05:00] <rob1> ohmannnnn, its simple, do stupid things = ban
[05:01] <Fr0Gs> where can i get the ubuntu fglrx drivers?
[05:01] <necator> durt i dont know what gcc is and what do u mean executebale? like an exe? cuss they are already executeable im using ajuta.
[05:01] <kinkoblast> necator: Join the club
[05:01] <nickrud> fletch33, put a ' # ' in front of the lines with breezy backports in them
[05:01] <ohmannnnn> rob1, i didnt do "stupid" things !
[05:01] <necator> kinkoblast your new to linux also/
[05:01] <necator> ?
[05:01] <fletch33> i am sorry i dont know what any of that ,eans
[05:01] <tryingsomething> ive tried a lot of linux disastros in my day
[05:01] <necator> fletch33 open up synpaitc
[05:01] <kinkoblast> necator: Pretty much. A month or so under my belt
[05:01] <fletch33> k
[05:01] <tryingsomething> probably from since mandrake 7.2 up to suse 10 beta
[05:01] <necator> kinkoblast me about a week
[05:01] <necator> kinkoblast you program in c++?
[05:01] <nickrud> fletch33, start with sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:02] <necator> fletch do u got it open?
[05:02] <nickrud> or, as necator says :)
[05:02] <fletch33> i opened package manger now what
[05:02] <kinkoblast> Necator: I barly program in BASIC.
[05:02] <tryingsomething> and ubuntu has been the best ive tried so far minus - some parts have been easier on suse  like windows paritions were automatically mounted and linked
[05:02] <fletch33> what is sudo
[05:02] <ohmannnnn> rob1, i just (maybe) asked the bot too often without "/msg", but someone said i was not banned by a bot, i was banned by an op. and i would like to know why.
[05:02] <necator> kinkoblast o i skipped basic and went right into c++
[05:02] <gerbman> Fr0gs: see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[05:02] <necator> fletch33 now go to settings > then repostiories
[05:02] <fletch33> i knok
[05:02] <fletch33> there
[05:03] <nickrud> fletch33, sudo is super user do, but, synaptic is better right now
[05:03] <durt> necator: to make a binary, run "g++ whatever.cpp -o whatever"
[05:03] <fletch33> k
[05:03] <necator> fletch33 scroll thru the list and UNCHECK the boxes that have the words backports in them.
[05:03] <kinkoblast> durt: Unless it's a multi-file program. that's just fucjed up.
[05:03] <fletch33> k
[05:03] <necator> fletch33 when u uncheck em all then you can close it.
[05:03] <kinkoblast> !fuck
[05:03] <ubotu> fuck is, like, a wonderful, versatile word, that you should use as often as you can. http://www.fartfarm.com/FWORD32_.wav
[05:03] <fletch33> 1 sec
[05:03] <nickrud> ubotu forget fuck
[05:03] <ubotu> i forgot fuck, nickrud
[05:03] <necator> durt i am using adjuta i think it makes them executeable already for me when i compile.
[05:03] <myrth_> how do i change fonts of gtk apps?
[05:03] <necator> durt it is an ide.
[05:04] <SEJeff> tryingsomething: Many of our desktops at work are suse 10. Ubuntu has 10x the amount of software SUSE does
[05:04] <kinkoblast> I didn't teach him that!
[05:04] <fletch33> ok unchecked
[05:04] <SEJeff> tryingsomething: And ubuntu works better for me than SUSE does
[05:04] <ohmannnnn> can someone see/tell why "oskude" was banned ?
[05:04] <durt> necator: yeah... i dont know how anjuta works - try geany
[05:05] <necator> durt ive only had anjuta about 5 mins seems fine tho.
[05:05] <SEJeff> ohmannnnn: probably because he was breaking the rules or acting stupid. can you quit asking why he was banned?
[05:05] <nickrud> fletch33, now click ok
[05:05] <necator> durt only other ide ive ever used is blood shed devC++ under windows.
[05:05] <nickrud> fletch33, then click reload
[05:05] <fletch33> k
[05:05] <necator> fletch33 yup do what nickrud said.
[05:06] <necator> fletch33 and that error should be gone.
[05:06] <ohmannnnn> SEJeff, lol, so i should quit cause of u assume something ?
[05:06] <nickrud> fletch33, you should be ok now
[05:06] <dooglus> 02:30 < oskude> ubotu tell oskude about demoscene.tv
[05:06] <dooglus> 02:31 -!- mode/#ubuntu [+b %oskude!*@*]  by Seveas
[05:06] <necator> durt how long you been using linux?
[05:06] <rob1> ohmannnnn, you need to talk to Seveas when he is here
[05:06] <SEJeff> ohmannnnn: No, asking the same question over and over again is a way to get banned
[05:06] <fletch33> now what
[05:06] <fletch33> k
[05:06] <fletch33>  i will try the download again
[05:06] <nickrud> fletch33, yes
[05:06] <ohmannnnn> dooglus, does that mean im not allowed to tell ubotu anything, and get banned right away ?
[05:07] <GigaClon> ohmannnnn, Seveas banned you ask them
[05:07] <gteppel> I just installed Breezy and have no sound!, i went to Volume Control and changed the sound device from my mobo to my SB Live 5.1 but I still don't have sound. Any ideas??
[05:07] <durt> necator, ive used bloodshed too and geany is somewhat similar, and a couple months
[05:08] <rob1> ohmannnnn, I would say for spamming
[05:08] <necator> durt did you have bloodshed running under linux or is that y now u have geany for linux? how long have u been programming in c++? or programming in general?
[05:08] <rob1> ohmannnnn, as it is your breaking the rules just by avoiding the ban
[05:09] <dooglus> looks like you were banned for playing with the bot.  I don't know the rules.  but:
[05:09] <dooglus> !botabuse
[05:09] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[05:09] <ohmannnnn> well, i was spamming max 3lines, and i saw someone spamming 5lines before and he dodnt get banned
[05:09] <ohmannnnn> !botabuse
[05:09] <durt> necator, i dont do c++, just random stuff in c - but you can use whatever ide/editor you want
[05:09] <nickrud> ohmannnnn, ubotu is for keeping factoids about ubuntu, not trivial things on the net.
[05:10] <SEJeff> ohmannnnn: And not marketing
[05:10] <durt> !start a jihad
[05:10] <ubotu> durt: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:10] <necator> durt well im new to linux just trying to bring my stuff over from windows into the linux world so im trying to find equivelants to what i use on win.
[05:11] <ohmannnnn> hmm, i just told ubotu about demoscene.tv and then tried (3times) to open that directly to me with !tell... and still, NOONE said me i got banned...
[05:11] <durt> necator, well then try geany and scite
[05:12] <Lord2k> What should my partition be? Ext2 or Ext3?
[05:12] <b1n0ry> it worked, installed fine, runs fine, now i just have to learn to use it
[05:12] <SEJeff> ohmannnnn: Why do you care that someone got banned for spamming ubotu? was it you on a different ip
[05:12] <prax> hola
[05:12] <prax> buenas noches
[05:12] <durt> hasta la vista
[05:12] <necator> durt is there something bad with adjuta? or are geany and scite just better?
[05:12] <prax> hola durt
[05:13] <prax> durt?
[05:13] <durt> no speakee espanol
[05:13] <prax> no?
[05:13] <ohmannnnn> SEJeff, no it was me with my main userid, that i registered after someone said i should use /msg to talk with ubotu..
[05:13] <crimsun> Lord2k: ext3 will suit you better unless you have a strictly defined reason for wanting ext2
[05:13] <echostorm> hi im having a problem with ubuntu install. no matter what screen resolution i pick when install hits the gnome portion (loading) of ubuntu I get a garbled sceen of whites and pink ascii charactors. Im running a evga geforce 6200 256mb gfx card with a sempron 3100+ palmero core
[05:13] <nickrud> SEJeff, he got the gentle ban, only by name
[05:13] <cmcnamar> hey...
[05:14] <cmcnamar> i just installed realplayer and am playing mp3's
[05:14] <prax> hola sala,
[05:14] <cmcnamar> thanks to everyone who helped me.
[05:14] <prax> esta es mi primera vez en esta sala
[05:14] <prax> de hecho, estoy probando un cd
[05:14] <prax> de ubuntu
[05:14] <echostorm> my cd is an official release btw so i know its not a corruption issue
[05:14] <nickrud> a man who likes to be legal :)
[05:14] <durt> scite and geany are nice and quick and simple
[05:14] <Lord2k> Alright, thanks crimsun. I don't really have a reason, I'm just doing the partition manually since my burner is not available at the moment.
[05:14] <ohmannnnn> im just pissed off that i got banned (like automaticly) and it wasnt even the bot that banned me, he/she could atleas give a reaseon/warning...
[05:15] <durt> !es
[05:15] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:15] <DShepherd> ohmannnnn: neva mind that man...your still loved.....hopefully :)
[05:15] <SEJeff> ohmannnnn: Well you should take that up with an op
[05:15] <DShepherd> ohmannnnn: so you got a question about ubuntu?:)
[05:16] <nickrud> lol
[05:16] <echostorm> can anyone help with this issue or point me in the right direction? i see nothing on the forums concerning this
[05:16] <ohmannnnn> actually i was here to help other ubuntu noobs...
[05:16] <DShepherd> ohmannnnn: or would you like to go to #ubuntu-offtopic and talk about chess :)
[05:16] <prax> #ubuntu-es
[05:16] <DShepherd> ohmannnnn: kool so are all of us also...KOOL! :)
[05:16] <prax> hey ubotu.
[05:17] <prax> como le hago?
[05:17] <ohmannnnn> and i still dont know where to look why and who banned "oskude"...
[05:17] <SEJeff> prax: /j #ubuntu-es
[05:17] <fletch33> yo nectar
[05:17] <dooglus> ohmannnnn: I showed you.  It was Seveas
[05:17] <nickrud> dooglus 02:30 < oskude> ubotu tell oskude about demoscene.tv
[05:17] <nickrud> dooglus 02:31 -!- mode/#ubuntu [+b %oskude!*@*]  by Seveas
[05:17] <ohmannnnn> is Seveas a bot ?
[05:17] <SEJeff> ohmannnnn: no
[05:18] <Madpilot> ohmannnnn: ping Seveas, ask him how you earned the ban, and stop whining about it...
[05:18] <ohmannnnn> or i just forget my support efforts for ubuntu and leave ur all alone...
[05:19] <nickrud> ohmannnnn, Seveas teaches geeks, and get over it. He didn't kick your ip, just your nick
[05:19] <gpled> has anyone had trouble with printers under ubuntu?
[05:19] <dooglus> ohmannnnn: I got banned from #mandrake a while back.  I left them to it as a matter of principal and came here instead.
[05:19] <nickrud> gpled, lol, oh yeah
[05:19] <durt> im banned from #slackware
[05:19] <ohmannnnn> nickrud, didnt see Seveas teach me before banning :)
[05:20] <nickrud> I'm done
[05:20] <nelson> Oh, great, #ubuntu attracts people who have been banned elsewhere.
[05:20] <nickrud> yeah, but they behave here cuz it's so much better
[05:20] <gteppel> has anybody had trouble getting their SB Live 5.1 working with breezy? I can't see to find any help on the forums
[05:21] <nickrud> gpled, what kind of printer problems?
[05:21] <SEJeff> ohmannnnn: Have you tried talking to an op when they are around?
[05:21] <gpled> nickrud: hp laserjet 5L.  used to work.  works on windows.  but not on my new ubuntu :(
[05:22] <slew> how do i get ubuntu to show me its uptime?
[05:22] <ohmannnnn> SEJeff, well, after my (oskude) there has be no op online...
[05:22] <crimsun> ohmannnnn: it's very simple. Don't talk about anything vaguely related to warez, even if it's not clear it's not warez or otherwise.
[05:22] <ohmannnnn> crimsun, warez ?! how do you come to that i talked about warez ?
[05:22] <gpled> slew:  uptime
[05:22] <nelson> nickrud: hehe.
[05:22] <slew> heh figured
[05:22] <Madpilot> ohmannnnn: there are several ops here - they're just not op'd in...
[05:23] <nelson> Madpilot: that's what we do over on #handhelds.org.  Stealth ops.  You have to be polite to everyone.  Works a charm.
[05:23] <echostorm> nobody has an idea on this install problem? damn I really wanted to run ubuntu :(
[05:23] <nickrud> gpled, I'm hoping someone else knows the answer :)
[05:23] <Madpilot> actually, Seveas is...
[05:23] <crimsun> ohmannnnn: 'scene' is a common string for it. Even if whoever banned you doesn't know the particular circumstances about what the demos really are, it's suspicious enough.
[05:23] <tryingsomething> does the soundbloweruper xifi work on ubuntu?
[05:24] <Madpilot> nelson: I think Freenode encourages stealth oping - other channels to it too
[05:24] <crimsun> ohmannnnn: in other words, it's best to be explicit about it
[05:24] <ohmannnnn> lol, demoscene = warez ?! OMG
[05:24] <nickrud> and here I thought it was the egalitarian attitude :)
[05:24] <crimsun> ohmannnnn: I didn't say it is warez, because I'm familiar with it. However, whoever banned you might not be.
[05:24] <SEJeff> ohmannnnn: rules are rules, play by them or not
[05:24] <DShepherd> THE END
[05:25] <ohmannnnn> where do i get the rules of this room ?
[05:25] <Madpilot> !conduct
[05:25] <nickrud> !conduct
[05:25] <ubotu> conduct is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view
[05:25] <Madpilot> ohmannnnn: there ^^^
[05:25] <ohmannnnn> didnt found "scene" there...
[05:25] <rob1> ohmannnnn, no one cares
[05:25] <dnB> can someone remind me how to restart a program using inet.d?
[05:25] <ohmannnnn> yeah, right
[05:26] <dnB> :P
[05:26] <nelson> dnB: it's program-dependent.
[05:26] <MagicFab> dnB: /etc/init.d/xxxxxxxx start
[05:26] <nelson> dnB: but generally you can say /etc/init.d/foobar stop
[05:26] <thrice`> restart
[05:26] <gpled> dnB: which program?
[05:26] <nelson> dnB: followed by start.
[05:26] <dnB> thanks guys
[05:26] <dnB> all i needed to know
[05:26] <SEJeff> nelson: no, he said inet.d. That is xinetd
[05:26] <dnB> :)
[05:26] <nelson> dnB: some init.d scripts let you say "restart"
[05:26] <dnB> ill try restart, otherwise stop start
[05:27] <ohmannnnn> and how do i now remove my "demoscene" addition form "ubotu" ?
[05:27] <crimsun> ohmannnnn: the ban was due to a misinformed string. Can we get beyond that?
[05:27] <gpled> nickrud: are you having printer trouble too?
[05:27] <nelson> SEJeff: er ... um ... uh, yeah!
[05:27] <ohmannnnn> i just want "oskude" get "unbanned"
[05:27] <nickrud> gpled, yeah, pdf's freeze my printer, and I have problems with landscape/portrait in openoffice
[05:27] <Madpilot> ohmannnnn: your ubotu factiod seems to already be gone
[05:28] <nickrud> a cheap hp psc
[05:28] <ohmannnnn> Madpilot, roger
[05:28] <SEJeff> nelson, nevermind, I'm thinking of rhel
[05:28] <dnB> thanks guys
[05:28] <dnB> perfect
[05:28] <dnB> <3
[05:28] <ohmannnnn> Madpilot, btw. it was "demoscene.tv"
[05:28] <ohmannnnn> thnx crimsun :)
[05:28] <nelson> SEJeff: *is* there such a thing as inet.d??  /me confesses that his Ubuntu box is not up right now.
[05:29] <Madpilot> ohmannnnn: it's gone. /msg ubotu list to see what it knows
[05:29] <oskude> hello world :)
[05:29] <MagicFab> oskude: hey
[05:29] <oskude> thnx crimsun !
[05:30] <oskude> was my ban because of "demoscene.tv" or too much use of "ubotu" ?
[05:30] <SEJeff> nelson: If you have xinetd installed, /etc/xinetd.d is a valid directory containing xinetd scripts for services like ntp
[05:30] <nickrud> nelson, no, inet.d doesn't exist
[05:30] <SEJeff> nelson: I was wrong
[05:30] <Madpilot> oskude: "/msg ubotu list" to see what it knows, btw...
[05:30] <prax> hola, hola,
[05:31] <prax> alguien que me pueda orientar?
[05:31] <nelson> Ahhhh, yes, Fedora uses xinetd and it has /etc/xinetd.d.
[05:31] <oskude> Madpilot, thnx
[05:31] <ian> If I rebuild my Breezy box with a TV tuner card installed will the installation process automatically detect and cofigure the card? Or will I still have to manually install the drivers when the build completes?
[05:31] <crimsun> ian: just insert the card, power the machine back up, and use it.
[05:32] <trappist> sort of depends on the card
[05:32] <nelson> ian: i'm sure that's the goal.  Whether it works or not is probably dependent upon which board it is.
[05:32] <prax> hey crimsun
[05:32] <ian> crimsun: if only it was that easy...
[05:32] <SEJeff> !info vsecurity
[05:32] <trappist> if it's a bttv chipset it should work fine
[05:32] <trappist> if it's a newer ivtv it'll take some work
[05:32] <crimsun> ian: sure, which is why there is a bug reporting facility if it isn't
[05:32] <iceman> I need help changing my Video card from the onboard to a add on card ...
[05:32] <oskude> im still interested on WHY i got banned...
[05:32] <prax> toc, toc, toc, hay alguien en casa?
[05:33] <rob1> oskude, let it o
[05:33] <nelson> WWJD? JWRTFM!      http://www.nancybuttons.com/catalog.cgi?o_custom=&o_selected=&ids=03710&chk3710=1&action=Button%20Baggie     Ya gotta love Nancy's Buttons.
[05:33] <rob1> s/o/go
[05:33] <crimsun> oskude: for the last time, he probably confused the string "scene" with that -other- scene.
[05:33] <ian> crimsun, is it a  bug if it doesnt work?
[05:33] <SEJeff> oskude: Well you are not any more. PLEASE stop whining abou tit
[05:33] <trappist> crimsun: if (for example) it's an ivtv card, it's not a matter of bugs.  there are licensing issues with the required firmware.
[05:33] <crimsun> ian: it can be
[05:33] <ian> crimsun, hmm.
[05:33] <iceman> Anyone able to help me change primary video cpntrollers in ubuntu
[05:34] <drcode> hi all
[05:34] <durt> watch the language there SEJeff ;)
[05:34] <drcode> sorry for asking again
[05:34] <ian> trappist, You have any experience with IVTV
[05:34] <crimsun> trappist: sure. That doesn't preclude filing a bug. We'll just close it with pertinent info attached if necessary.
[05:34] <trappist> yeah
[05:34] <drcode> where I can find upgrade info from hoary to breezy
[05:34] <crimsun> drcode: see the topic
[05:34] <nickrud> nelson, that's one I want to read :)
[05:34] <ian> trappist, What PVR card do you have?
[05:34] <trappist> crimsun: my point is not every card will work out of the box or will EVER work out of the box, through no fault of the developers
[05:35] <trappist> ian: 250
[05:35] <prax> crimsun, sabes de una sala hispana?
[05:35] <SEJeff> prax: /j #ubuntu-es
[05:35] <iceman> Dang it, Ubuntu has me stuck at 640x480 resolution .... on the onboard card ...
[05:35] <crimsun> trappist: I'm well aware of that, though you seem to have misunderstood my original response, which was (paraphrased) "Just try it".
[05:35] <ian> trappist, You have MythTV up and running or just TvTime?
[05:35] <nelson> nickrud: Nancy has some excellent sysadmin-related buttons.  It's WAY too easy to buy several dozen.
[05:35] <prax> gracias. pero esta mas sola que mi alma
[05:35] <prax> otra?
[05:35] <crimsun> prax: no
[05:35] <trappist> crimsun: I guess I did.  my bad :)
[05:36] <oskude> i was advised to apologize (freenode), i did apologize for "abusing" ubotu, and who apologizes at me :) (yeah, i DONT have any rights here..)
[05:36] <trappist> ian: I don't use it anymore, but I did have mythtv running
[05:36] <pretzel> what do you think is the best partioning structure for a 40GB harddrive with both Win XP and Ubuntu?
[05:36] <fletch33> just wondering there are a way to many apps available on synaptic when u choose all is there any way to know what the cool ones are or can or should u pick them all
[05:36] <pretzel> *partitioning
[05:36] <trappist> pretzel: depends which you use more and for what
[05:36] <Madpilot> oskude: would you please just drop it?
[05:36] <ian> trappist, Im struggling with the IVTV setup...
[05:36] <pretzel> trappist, I'm a newbie
[05:36] <nelson> pretzel: 0% for Windows and 100% for Ubuntu?  :-)
[05:36] <trappist> pretzel: but keep in mind linux can read and write fat32 and windows can't touch linux partitions
[05:36] <pretzel> lol, I can't go cold turkey
[05:36] <iceman> wheres the x11.conf file located
[05:36] <pretzel> trappist, I realize that
[05:36] <trappist> ian: yeah it's not very straightforward
[05:36] <oskude> Madpilot, not until some1 apologize at me :)
[05:37] <ian> trappist, the forums are full of HowTo
[05:37] <ian> trappist, but they are all adifferent and none work for me.
[05:37] <Madpilot> oskude: or until you get yourself banned again for spamming the channel?
[05:37] <nelson> nickrud: You are in the presence of a system administrator.....KNEEL     http://www.nancybuttons.com/catalog.cgi?o_custom=&o_selected=&ids=02902&chk2902=1&action=Button%20Baggie
[05:37] <nickrud> If it doesn't work, change the documentation <---
[05:37] <oskude> Mabus06, lol
[05:37] <nelson> hehe.
[05:37] <axisys> anyone know of a live radio and a good app to use to listen to it?
[05:37] <bob832> asked this question earlier, was wondering if anyone had any thoughts. . . .how can i change the keyboard volume buttons from changing master to PCM?
[05:37] <trappist> ian: where are you stuck?  I don't remember all the details of the process but we might get lucky
[05:37] <pretzel> should I have a seperate partition for linux?
[05:37] <nelson> I don't flirt with death. She runs up and sticks her tongue in my ear.
[05:38] <ian> trappist, Firmware
[05:38] <iceman> how do i reconfigure my video from a onboard nvidia to a Installed nvidia ?
[05:38] <trappist> pretzel: you need to have a separate partition for linux.  just leave it blank and the installer will deal with it.
[05:38] <fletch33> anybody have any help for picking what packages i should choose in synaptic
[05:38] <fletch33> there are 1000's
[05:38] <pretzel> what min partition size do I need for it?
[05:38] <Amaranth> fletch33: for what?
[05:38] <nickrud> bob832, you'll probably need to disable the stuff in metacity, and use some other means: hotkeys, or the equiv
[05:38] <fletch33> ii dont know the cool 1's to get
[05:39] <trappist> ian: debian has an unofficial repository with packaged firmware.  not sure if ubuntu does, but the debian package will work.
[05:39] <nelson> iceman: you mean the boot video?
[05:39] <Amaranth> iceman: disable the onboard one in your bios
[05:39] <fletch33> where do i start
[05:39] <nelson> iceman: your BIOS ought to say "Gee, he put in a video card.  Maybe I'm supposed to use it."
[05:39] <iceman> Amaranth no bios setting i looked dang emachine
[05:39] <axisys> what is a good app to listen to live radio?
[05:39] <Amaranth> fletch33: generally you have an idea of something you want first
[05:39] <trappist> axisys: xmms
[05:39] <Amaranth> iceman: i'd hope it was smart enough to autodisable
[05:39] <nelson> iceman: but then again, I can't STOP my BIOS from doing that, so when I put in a video card, I end up with only one usable video card.
[05:40] <SEJeff> axisys: rhythmbox
[05:40] <trappist> axisys: or mplayer
[05:40] <nickrud> fletch33, try apt-cache search <keywords> , things that might interest you
[05:40] <oskude> axisys, and look in www.shoutcast.com
[05:40] <bob832> nickrud: i did change the volume controls in the task bar to change PCM but the keys still change master
[05:40] <fletch33> amatanth how do i highlight my comment and add your name in this xcaht
[05:40] <axisys> oskude: can i use xmms to listen to shoutcast?
[05:40] <oskude> axisys, yes
[05:40] <nickrud> fletch33, steamtuner, oskude made me think of that
[05:40] <fletch33> like how u just responded to me
[05:40] <nelson> Amaranth: actually, I think that's the wrong behavior.  I'd prefer to be able to use both onboard and video cards, and set one or the other as primary.
[05:40] <iceman> nelson ubuntu see's both, but pipes to the onboard
[05:40] <pretzel> Is it okay if I set it up this way: 5GB for windows, 5GB for linux, and the other 30 for data storage?
[05:40] <iceman> where the x11 configuration file
[05:40] <trappist> fletch33: any line with your nick in it gets hilighted
[05:40] <SEJeff> fletch33: If someone says your name, it highlights it
[05:40] <oskude> yes, streamtuner/streamripper is a good all-in-one thing
[05:41] <nelson> iceman: is X not setting you up with two X screens?
[05:41] <nelson> iceman: it *ought* to give you two screens.  It really ought to.  It should, anyway.
[05:41] <nickrud> bob832, it's at a lower level than that, I think. I did it for a different distro a while back, I haven't got around to setting it up again.
[05:41] <fletch33> how do i quicly say your name do i have to type it out
[05:41] <nelson> fletch33: type a few letters and hit tab.
[05:41] <iceman> nelson one x starts on the onboard... nothing on the second screen
[05:41] <fletch33> ne thnkas
[05:41] <iceman> plug in and blank
[05:41] <fletch33> it didnt work ther
[05:42] <fletch33> nelson, ooh got it
[05:42] <nickrud> fletch33, just type a few characters like 'nick' and hit the tab key, you can cycle through some names.
[05:42] <axisys> i am going to give vlc a try
[05:42] <nelson> iceman: is the monitor getting a signal?  Does it automagically turn itself on?
[05:42] <axisys> my firefox automatically detected that for shoutcast
[05:42] <fletch33> ok so i didnt see it in a different color did u
[05:42] <nelson> iceman: because it it's turning itself on, then the video card is actually working, it's just displaying all black.
[05:42] <Sourceror> I want to print something in Linux.  I've plugged the printer into my motherboard, and it's powered.  So what else do I do?
[05:43] <trappist> fletch33: your irc client does the hilighting, not the server.  it's to let you know someone's talking to you.
[05:43] <iceman> If i plug in to the installed card i get a vid signal, no screen display
[05:43] <Amaranth> fletch33: When I say your name it shows in a different color for just you. It's the same if someone says my name.
[05:43] <fletch33> or does just nelson see
[05:43] <fletch33> that is cool
[05:43] <Amaranth> fletch33: It's to make it easier for you to follow who is talking to you in a large channel (like this one).
[05:43] <fletch33> thanks
[05:43] <pavelich> anyone here familiar with eclipse
[05:43] <nelson> fletch33: any colors you're seeing are entirely in your irc client.
[05:43] <fletch33> big time very nice
[05:43] <ilba7r> any one know if toshiba qosmio (25 us /20 the rest of the world) have good support or not on ubuntu
[05:43] <oskude> Sourceror, what port (usb, parallel) is your printer using ?
[05:43] <Amaranth> fletch33: So if you're talking to someone here it's usually a good idea to put they name in front of the line like I'm doing here. Otherwise they might miss it.
[05:43] <fletch33> i am usind xchat is that the best to use on ubu
[05:43] <nelson> fletch33: what's nice?  tab completion??  Yes, tab completion is teh rock.
[05:44] <Amaranth> err, their name
[05:44] <fletch33> k thanks
[05:44] <Amaranth> xchat is the best GUI irc client
[05:44] <Sourceror> It's a big one.  Parallel?
[05:44] <pavelich> anyone here familiar with ECLIPSE and creating c++ project, or what binary parsers are
[05:44] <Amaranth> err, i broke my own rule
[05:44] <DShepherd> gaim is nice too
[05:44] <Amaranth> pavelich: Nope, sorry.
[05:44] <fletch33> nelson, yeah it helps to know u r talking ot me that is sweet
[05:44] <bob832> nickrud: oh ok
[05:44] <Amaranth> DShepherd: It's too general.
[05:44] <DShepherd> Amaranth: general is good
[05:44] <nelson> Animal testing is a terrible idea--they get all nervous and give the wrong answers
[05:45] <iceman> damit how to change video controlers
[05:45] <fletch33> nelson, ha!
[05:45] <bnD> can anyone help me out with how to "iptables-save > /etc/sysconfig/iptables
[05:45] <bnD> " in ubuntu? trying to save iptables configuration
[05:45] <fletch33> nelson,  ooh yeah im in the game now
[05:45] <trappist> bnD: that's all there is to it
[05:46] <nelson> fletch33: yep, there ya go.  Try tab completion of filenames in the shell as well.
[05:46] <nickrud> bob832, yeah, it sucks here too
[05:46] <trappist> bnD: well, you'll need sudo
[05:46] <bnD> trappist, didnt work
[05:46] <bnD> perhaps wrong location for iptables
[05:46] <fletch33> nelson,  what is that
[05:46] <SEJeff> bnD: /etc/sysconfig is a redhat directory
[05:46] <bob832> nickrud:  i was looking through some of the files in /proc/asound but had no luck
[05:46] <bnD> SEJeff, ah ok
[05:46] <bnD> ;)
[05:46] <nelson> fletch33: command line.  "In The Beginning, There Was The Command Line."
[05:46] <trappist> bnD: you can put it anywhere you like (that exists) as long as you restore from the same place
[05:46] <fletch33> nelson,  what i sthe shell
[05:46] <DShepherd> fletch33: gaim is good too...with guificattions.........it rocks!!!
[05:46] <bnD> anyone know where iptables is located?
[05:46] <prax> somebody speak spanish?
[05:47] <trappist> bnD: `which iptables`
[05:47] <bnD> trappist, ?
[05:47] <nickrud> bob832, ask again later, there are people here who know sound backwards and forwards
[05:47] <trappist> bnD: run that command
[05:47] <nelson> fletch33: when you run System Tools/Terminal, you get a shell.
[05:47] <bnD> ah, thanks
[05:47] <fletch33> nelson,  ooh i have that and use it for my instant messenger so i should us ethat for this 2
[05:47] <bob832> nickrud: alright, thanks
[05:47] <bnD> wpw
[05:47] <bnD> wpw
[05:47] <nelson> prax: no hablo espaol.
[05:47] <bnD> wow* sorry
[05:47] <bnD> permission denied
[05:47] <bnD> with sudo
[05:47] <bnD> ?
[05:47] <trappist> bnD: sudo
[05:47] <fletch33> nelson, i havent gotten that far yet
[05:48] <bnD> trappist, brandon@edubuntu:~$ sudo iptables-save > /sbin/iptables
[05:48] <bnD> bash: /sbin/iptables: Permission denied
[05:48] <bnD> brandon@edubuntu:~$
[05:48] <fletch33> nelson, lol
[05:48] <iceman> Anything i can do to set the second video card to work
[05:48] <trappist> bnD: don't do that!  you're trying to overwrite iptables itself.  put it somewhere else, like maybe root's home directory or /etc or something
[05:48] <nelson> fletch33: there's a world of pleasure at the command line.  Much power available to you.
[05:48] <bnD> trappist
[05:49] <bnD> how do i save the configuration?
[05:49] <nelson> fletch33: the trouble with the command line is that you have to remember what you want to do.
[05:49] <prax> nelson: do you know some chat to spanish?
[05:49] <fletch33> nelson,  i just started to use this 2 dayz ago and this is my first try at linux and to be honest i am very  very frustrated
[05:49] <trappist> bnD: iptables-save > /etc/myrules for example
[05:49] <bnD> ok
[05:49] <bnD> and would that autoload?
[05:49] <nelson> prax: yo tengo nunca palabras.
[05:49] <zoexii> hello, how does one remove configuration of eth0 from the startup script?  I use wireless, and it holds things up.
[05:49] <SEJeff> prax: join the #ubuntu-es channel. with /j #ubuntu-es
[05:49] <trappist> bnD: no, you'd have to iptables-restore < /etc/myrules
[05:49] <bnD> so theres no way
[05:50] <bnD> to permanently save a configuration and have it used?
[05:50] <TodFlanders> zoexii do you ever want to use wht0?
[05:50] <fletch33> nelson,  i know windows inside and out i i feel like i am touching a compyetr for the first time
[05:50] <trappist> bnD: unless you have an iptables init script, in which case check it out to see where it tries to restore from
[05:50] <zoexii> TodFlanders, no, not so much,
[05:50] <bnD> ah
[05:50] <bnD> thanks ;)
[05:50] <trappist> bnD: try /etc/init.d/iptables save active
[05:50] <nelson> fletch33: ahhhh, I see.   Hmmm...  I've been using the Unix command line for uh, about twenty years now, so I don't know where to tell you to start.
[05:50] <oskude> fletch33, :)
[05:50] <SEJeff> fletch33: You know what microsoft lets you know of windows. You really can learn linux inside and out
[05:50] <TodFlanders> ok, open /etc/network/interfaces file as sudo in gedit
[05:50] <thrice`> nelson: 20 years?
[05:51] <DShepherd> fletch33: I felt the same way...linux and windows are different sometimes, depending waht you are doing..the learning curve can be steep
[05:51] <zoexii> TodFlanders, it is possible that I might need to use it someday, but it would be quite an exception to normal use,
[05:51] <TodFlanders> zoexii, their should be something that says etho0 auto intet or similar
[05:51] <bnD> trappist, it autoruns, however it isnt in init.d
[05:51] <bnD> any thoughts?
[05:51] <fletch33> i understand that i really didnt know anything i just new how to get it to work not why
[05:51] <nelson> thrice`: yep, I actually started in 1982, but had a three year hiatus after that.
[05:51] <iceman> c r  a  p    damit how to reconfigure video
[05:51] <trappist> bnD: what autoruns?
[05:51] <bnD> iptable
[05:51] <bnD> its running upon boot
[05:51] <oskude> if you started with dos (like i) linux will be a dream :)
[05:51] <bnD> however its not under /init.d
[05:51] <zoexii> TodFlanders, right, but I do not know where the startup script is kept, or what it is called,
[05:51] <fletch33> now i really dont know anyhting
[05:51] <cafuego_> and stay away from /etc/sysconfig if you're not using redhat
[05:51] <bnD> oskude, my mom feels the same way
[05:51] <DShepherd> fletch33: LInux = HUmans are the thinkers..not computers ;)
[05:51] <trappist> bnD: honestly I'm not on my ubuntu box atm so I'm not sure where else to look
[05:51] <nelson> thrice`: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:hp-cvd!russ&start=10&hl=en&rnum=11&selm=bnews.hp-pcd.806
[05:52] <bnD> well trappist, thank you ;)
[05:52] <fletch33> word!
[05:52] <oskude> bnD, my mom uses still windoze, gotta make those install ubuntu video tutorials :)
[05:52] <TodFlanders> zoexii, if you put a # infront of the eth0 auto i think it skips it on boot
[05:52] <SEJeff> oskude: agreed. I started with dos
[05:52] <SEJeff> oskude: dosshell is the best gui M$ has ever designed
[05:52] <fletch33> i could stop using windows if i could just get my contacts and emails from outlook into ubu
[05:52] <oskude> SEJeff, yeah :)
[05:52] <zoexii> TodFlanders, yes, but in what file?  I do not know what it is I must modify,
[05:53] <fletch33> i am stuck and have been working on it for 2 days
[05:53] <fletch33> i need them for work
[05:53] <nelson> fletch33: indeed.
[05:53] <thrice`> nelson: which distro?
[05:53] <nickrud> SEJeff, lol
[05:53] <TodFlanders> zoexii, sorry you may have missed above but that should be possibe from /etc/network/interfaces
[05:53] <thrice`> well, I guess linux wasn't aroudn yet
[05:53] <oskude> SEJeff, i wonder how OSX user react seeing a text-console for the first time :)
[05:53] <fletch33> it is the only hting holding me back from a complete switch
[05:53] <trappist> fletch33: when I first started in linux I didn't have internet access and I spent two months getting my sound card to work.  once I discovered irc and google things started going a lot smoother.
[05:53] <zoexii> TodFlanders, right on,
[05:53] <nelson> thrice`: what?  What distro was I using back in 1982??
[05:53] <SEJeff> oskude: yes, that would be entertaining
[05:53] <cyphase> why can't i compile a mono app that uses Gtk# in ubuntu?
[05:54] <thrice`> nelson: yes; but I meant variant, as distros weren't around yet
[05:54] <fletch33> well i am getting frustrated with this email and contact thiing
[05:54] <TodFlanders> zoexii, that interfaces file executes on boot i believe so just comment out the eth0 and it should just load your wireless
[05:54] <SEJeff> cyphase: because you need to install mcs and the libraries probably
[05:54] <iceman> God dam linux and the hard configurations .... how to get better resolution
[05:54] <thrice`> cyphase: what's the error?
[05:54] <oskude> cyphase, i love to compile, what are you compiling, url ?
[05:54] <fletch33> i ahve way way way too many to do it by hand
[05:54] <fletch33> i even thought about it
[05:54] <cyphase> hello world.cs(1) error CS0246: The namespace `Gtk' can not be found (missing assembly reference?)
[05:54] <cyphase>     Try using -pkg:gtk-sharp
[05:54] <cyphase> hello world.cs(2) error CS0246: The namespace `GtkSharp' can not be found (missing assembly reference?)
[05:54] <cyphase>     Try using -pkg:gtk-sharp
[05:54] <cyphase> Compilation failed: 2 error(s), 0 warnings
[05:54] <cyphase> oops
[05:54] <trappist> iceman: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:55] <cyphase> i thought that was only 2 lines
[05:55] <fletch33> but then i realizionrd i would have to take a 2 week vacat
[05:55] <nelson> thrice`: lemme see, it was an old HP 68000 box.  Probably bsd4.2
[05:55] <thrice`> cyphase: you have gtksharp installed?
[05:55] <cyphase> i think so
[05:55] <cyphase> i checked in synaptic, and i have..
[05:55] <fletch33> ooh by the way i type 2 ways slow and sloppy and ssssllllloooowwww
[05:55] <thrice`> cyphase: that's the first thing you should be looking for
[05:55] <oskude> cyphase, when you compile things, you mostly need xxxx-dev packages
[05:55] <nelson> thrice`: but then in 1985 I started using a sysv/bsd bastardization, with all the incompatibilities of both.  A Gould.  We called it the ghoul.
[05:55] <zoexii> TodFlanders, got it, thanks.
[05:55] <cyphase> i have libgtk-cil installed
[05:55] <Sourceror> How do I print with Ubuntu?
[05:56] <thrice`> nelson: interesting
[05:56] <cyphase> ah
[05:56] <cyphase> right
[05:56] <nelson> Sourceror: that's a difficult question to answer.  That's why you didn't get an answer earlier.
[05:56] <TodFlanders> zoexii, no problem, hope that works, just remember for future if you ever try to use it :)
[05:56] <Sourceror> Uh huh.
[05:56] <oskude> Sourceror, fisrt, whats your printer ? and how its connected to pc ?
[05:56] <cyphase> ah..
[05:56] <cyphase> i found it
[05:57] <cyphase> i was looking under l, for lib
[05:57] <Sourceror> oskude, it's a Lexmark laser printer... it's connected by a parallel port cable.
[05:57] <cyphase> it's called gtk-sharp, and gtk-sharp2
[05:57] <bnD> does anyone know how to correctly save iptables configuration?
[05:57] <thrice`> is anythign in backports yet?
[05:57] <oskude> Sourceror, what lexmark exactly ?
[05:58] <cyphase> i want gtk-sharp2, right?
[05:58] <cyphase> :)
[05:58] <Sourceror> It's labeled Z22.  I think it prints by laser.
[05:58] <oskude> Sourceror, sec...
[05:59] <thrice`> cyphase: looks like it
[06:01] <oskude> Sourceror, try here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19470&highlight=lexmark+z35+printer
[06:01] <fletch33> does anyone have any idea why evolution wont let me choose file type when i go to import for my email if i could figure this out i could get my email imported
[06:01] <myrth_> how do i enable power wlan card?
[06:01] <myrth_> i mean power to wlan card?
[06:01] <fletch33> i can not even choose automatic like it says i can
[06:01] <DShepherd> fletch33: try thunderbird....that may work
[06:01] <SEJeff> fletch33: Maybe you should try thunderbird. I prefer it over evo
[06:02] <durt> myrth_ you might need ndiswrapper - ask google
[06:02] <fletch33> thunderbird only imports 1 type and it is not the 1 need
[06:02] <myrth_> but it has wireless configuration in kubuntu
[06:02] <Sourceror> It is possible that if I restart my computer it will detect my printer?
[06:02] <myrth_> i need to install some more?
[06:02] <oskude> Sourceror, you could try
[06:02] <fletch33> i have read that it will import my emails which i transferd in windows thru mozilla mail
[06:02] <SEJeff> fletch33: Well I have something you might like
[06:03] <fletch33> ok
[06:03] <fletch33> what
[06:03] <Sourceror> OK what's a common script that would detect a printer and how do I make it run now?
[06:03] <SEJeff> fletch33: This company does windows --> Linux migrations. They open sourced the linux part of their client
[06:03] <SEJeff> fletch33: http://openmoveover.sf.net
[06:03] <oskude> Sourceror, dunno, sry
[06:03] <josh__> does anyone know how to serve games with ubuntu?
[06:03] <tritium> Sourceror, sudo invoke-rc.d restart cupsys
[06:03] <fletch33> have u used it i read about it
[06:03] <oskude> josh__, server games ? you need the game server for that
[06:03] <tritium> Sourceror, then check to see if you can add a new printer, and if it's automatically detected when you try to add it
[06:03] <oskude> *-r
[06:04] <fletch33> SEJeff,  do u know it works and of so what version
[06:04] <josh__> the game server being what?
[06:04] <oskude> josh__, server version of the game you want to serve...
[06:04] <josh__> oh, do you have any ideas of where i can download that if possible?
[06:04] <Sourceror> Thanks tritium, but it failed.  Thanks for the tutorial oskude
[06:04] <oskude> josh__, which game ?
[06:05] <josh__> call of duty united offensive
[06:05] <MrFarts> where are sudo groups defined ?
[06:05] <oskude> josh__, sec...
[06:05] <josh__> ok
[06:05] <tritium> Sourceror, you restarted cups and then tried to add?
[06:05] <Sourceror> No I just copy-pasted what you typed.
[06:06] <tritium> Sourceror, then you didn't do as I suggested
[06:06] <MrFarts> anyone ?
[06:07] <Sourceror> I have an Add a Printer dialogue up, and it didn't have anything in its list.
[06:07] <oskude> josh__, do you have the small or large version form here http://www.callofduty.com/uopatch/ (bottom of screen)
[06:07] <myrth_> durt: even if it says that ath0 is UP ?
[06:07] <bob832> another sound related question - checking out audacity but it says i have no playback or recording device?
[06:08] <josh__> hold on ...
[06:08] <hit3k> Can someone help me with my network problem I cant see windows machines and i have samba installed
[06:08] <tritium> Sourceror, is this after restarting cups?  Was your printer plugged in and turned on before you restarted it?
[06:08] <oskude> josh__, i would suggest using the "large" version...
[06:09] <Sourceror> tritium, I need to take a break.  THanks for your help.
[06:09] <oskude> josh__, and as it is an "binary" release, i think you just have to unpack it and run a command...
[06:09] <josh__> alright so i put it on say my desktop and unpack it and run it?
[06:10] <oskude> josh__, could be somthenign so easy :)
[06:10] <josh__> lol
[06:10] <superbeast> how do i get my audigy 2zs working with ubuntu
[06:10] <josh__> alright i'll do that, if that doesn't work i'll come back, thanks for the help.
[06:11] <oskude> josh__, just read the readme file in the package, should be easy
[06:11] <josh__> alright thanks
[06:11] <oskude> josh__, np, your welcome
[06:12] <superbeast> anyone?
[06:13] <jorgeu> hi
[06:13] <oskude> tritium, ? what are you trying to say through ubotu =
[06:13] <Orborde> What package would I want to get for a unix-to-dos plain text conversion (you know, a util that converts the line breaks and whatnot)?
[06:14] <tritium> Orborde, sysutils
[06:14] <tritium> it has the tofromdos tools
[06:14] <oskude> tritium, ok, got it "your welcome" "youre welcome" or "you're welcome" :)
[06:14] <tritium> oskude, oh, ok
[06:15] <Orborde> tritium: Thanks
[06:15] <oskude> tritium, nitpicker :)
[06:15] <jorgeu> i'm having problems trying to install ubuntu 5.04. If i create a swap partition, then all task freeze. Even the live cd freeze trying to create user, i think that the swap it creates is broken. Any idea? know problem?
[06:15] <tritium> oskude, :)
[06:15] <hit3k> Can someone help me with my network problem I cant see windows machines and i have samba installed
[06:15] <tritium> jorgeu, might I suggest you install 5.10 instead?
[06:16] <oskude> tritium, but (really) thanks for the info, didnt notice it (that it should be "youre" not "your")
[06:16] <jorgeu> tritium, i request for free CDs and they sent me the 5.04 version
[06:16] <tritium> jorgeu, are you able to download 5.10?
[06:16] <jorgeu> tritium, recently
[06:17] <jorgeu> tritium, no
[06:17] <tritium> okay, jorgeu
[06:17] <jorgeu> tritium, that's why i depend on free ship
[06:17] <tritium> jorgeu, all right
[06:18] <hit3k> Can someone help me with my network problem I cant see windows machines and i have samba installed
[06:19] <oskude> hit3k, i think with samba windows should see youm not you should see windows...
[06:19] <rob1> hit3k, try http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-samba-server
[06:20] <LaptopSword> hello :)
[06:20] <hit3k> How do I see windows machines then?
[06:20] <LaptopSword> somebody know a good dvd playing thingy?
[06:20] <rob1> LaptopSword, xine, totem
[06:20] <freddy> hello, im having a difficulty with gnome-bittorrent, i cant find a place to change the port it uses, do you guys know how to change it? thanks.
[06:20] <LaptopSword> ok thx rob1
[06:20] <rob1> freddy, you have to do it on the command line, see man gnome-bittorrent for more info
[06:21] <LaptopSword> and do u know how to get those windows codecs like mpeg and avi and shit?
[06:21] <rob1> LaptopSword, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-music-and-movies
[06:21] <oskude> !tell LaptopSword about w32codecs
[06:21] <LaptopSword> :P
[06:22] <EdLin> LaptopSword, I like ogle; if one is just playing DVDs.
[06:22] <LaptopSword> well ogle doesn't work here for some reason maybe i should reboot my system?
[06:23] <EdLin> LaptopSword, rebooting seldom solves problems in Linux, that's a more Windows approach. :)
[06:23] <LaptopSword> :P
[06:23] <ICE9> is anyone running glftpd on ubuntu ?
[06:23] <LaptopSword> well i haven't tried rebooting since i installed some programs
[06:23] <LaptopSword> so gtg do that bbl
[06:24] <EdLin> LaptopSword, installing programs is a lot less dangerous to your system's stability in Linux too.
[06:24] <LaptopSword> well anyways brb ;)
[06:26] <superbeast> how do i install wine?
[06:26] <rain`> Should I avoid usb headphones wshen using linux? Does their being usb mean they have to install some kind of driver when you plug them in? Does this work with linux/ubuntu?
[06:27] <jorgeu> superbeast, did you try $sudo apt-get install wine ?
[06:27] <oskude> superbeast, sudo apt-get install wine :) (sry havent never used wine)
[06:27] <superbeast> yeah
[06:27] <superbeast> michael@mike:~$ sudo apt-get install wine Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:27] <superbeast> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:27] <superbeast> is only available from another source
[06:27] <superbeast> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[06:28] <sfChrisJacob> Hey all, I am haveing some problems getting dual head configured... RightOf and LeftOf keywoeds seem to have no effect... The screens are on the wrong sides, and short og physicly moving them, does anyone have any ideas?
[06:28] <oskude> superbeast, could be that wine is in "universe" or "multiverse"
[06:28] <jorgeu> superbeast, do yo have uncommented the universe repos in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[06:28] <superbeast> remove the #?
[06:29] <jorgeu> subterrific,  yes
[06:29] <intelikey> can anyone tell me what kind of line to add to xorg.conf to adjust the mouse speed ?
[06:29] <MrFarts>  where exactly can i get the ms core fonts package for ubuntu ?
[06:29] <oskude> MrFarts, isnt MS copyrighted...
[06:29] <rain`> sfChrisJacob: Are they both external monitors?
[06:29] <Amaranth> !info msttcorefonts
[06:29] <MrFarts> oskude, the fonts are freely distributed
[06:29] <nelson> oskude: the ms core fonts are free as in beer.
[06:29] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[06:30] <intelikey> i'm looking at the mouse portion but there is nothing about sensitivity  ?
[06:30] <mustard5> intelikey, you on gnome?
[06:30] <oskude> ok
[06:30] <Madpilot> MrFarts: they're in Ubuntu's Multiverse
[06:30] <intelikey> mustard5 no flux
[06:30] <mustard5> k
[06:30] <MrFarts> Madpilot, i tried enabling it in the repository config
[06:30] <Amaranth> MrFarts: install that
[06:30] <MrFarts> maddler, no go
[06:30] <sfChrisJacob> rain`, yes
[06:30] <jorgeu> MrFarts, go to a Windows machine, copy in some media all the .ttf you need and back to the linux box and paste them in a shared font folder
[06:30] <Amaranth> !repos
[06:31] <Madpilot> MrFarts: Multiverse & the mscore fonts work here...
[06:31] <Amaranth> jorgeu: Not legal.
[06:31] <MrFarts> Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:31] <MrFarts> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:31] <MrFarts> is only available from another source
[06:31] <Amaranth> fscking bot
[06:31] <zack_> hey guys, anyone use WINE frequently?
[06:31] <Amaranth> !tell MrFarts about repos
[06:31] <MrFarts> i have no idea what that means
[06:31] <MrFarts> what in the world does that error mean
[06:31] <zack_> hey guys, anyone use WINE frequently?
[06:31] <Amaranth> MrFarts: yeah, you need to enable the multiverse repository, look at what ubotu just PMed you
[06:31] <MrFarts> it seems that debian is still as beligerently unfriendly as ever
[06:32] <MrFarts> Amaranth, i wish the errors were a bit less preposterous
[06:32] <Amaranth> zack_: Please don't repeat yourself.
[06:32] <MrFarts> what in the world does "referred to by another package" mean
[06:32] <rain`> sfChrisJacob: what kind of connections on your computer? vga/vga, vga/dvi,dvi/dvi  (doesnt matter what monitors are)
[06:32] <Amaranth> MrFarts: Well, it can't read minds...
[06:32] <zack_> yessir
[06:32] <Amaranth> MrFarts: I don't see how that error message can say anything different and still actually make sense.
[06:33] <MrFarts> Amaranth, i did enable the multiverse repository
[06:33] <sfChrisJacob> rain`, Two VGA from a GeForce FX 5200
[06:33] <zack_> hey guys, anyone use WINE frequently?
[06:33] <oskude> MrFarts, use "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources" and add "multiverse" after the line "...main restricted" in there
[06:33] <intelikey> ive got 4 options corepointer device protocol and emulate3button ,     there is a string that can make it less sensitive isn't there ?
[06:33] <Amaranth> MrFarts: and ran sudo apt-get update? (or clicked reload in synaptic)
[06:33] <tritium> sfChrisJacob, you're using TwinView?
[06:33] <superbeast> what is the command to update i forgot?
[06:33] <EdLin> MrFarts, you probably need the universe repository too
[06:33] <hit3k> How do i view Windows computers in the Networks folder?
[06:33] <superbeast> sudo apt something
[06:33] <oskude> MrFarts, did you do "apt-get update" after adding ?
[06:33] <superbeast> lol
[06:33] <Amaranth> zack_: ...
[06:33] <sfChrisJacob> rain`,  No, I don't beleive so...
[06:33] <MrFarts> oskude, yes
[06:33] <oskude> * "sudo apt-get update"
[06:34] <rain`> sfChrisJacob: Are you currently using two device sections in your xorg.conf?
[06:34] <zack_> amaranth ...
[06:34] <Amaranth> zack_: If someone does they will answer, you don't have to repeat it once a minute. You'd have to tell us what problem you're having with it.
[06:34] <tritium> sfChrisJacob, if you have an nVidia card, you should be using TwinView for dual head
[06:34] <zack_> how do you expect to get a question answered if you can only ask it once, and then no one answers it
[06:34] <sfChrisJacob> rain`, No... just one Device section
[06:34] <tritium> sfChrisJacob, see the docs in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx
[06:34] <ICE9> trying to copy the /usr/lib to glftpd/lib but I get a permission denied even when I sudo it
[06:34] <intelikey> superbeast sudo apt-get update
[06:34] <oskude> MrFarts, well, i could install that "msttcorefonts" and i have universe and multivers in apt sources...
[06:34] <zack_> im not having a problem with it, im asking if anyone uses it
[06:34] <Amaranth> ChanServ owned Seveas :P
[06:35] <MrFarts> oskude, no go
[06:35] <sfChrisJacob> tritium, Thanks for the tip... I will check it out
[06:35] <rain`> tritium: TwinView is nice in some cases, but for me I prefer dual head
[06:35] <ICE9> anyone
[06:35] <oskude> MrFarts, hmm... somethings wrong on your side..
[06:35] <tritium> rain`, twinview provides dual head
[06:35] <{{corona}}> hi is there a way to do a fsck on the etx2 filesystem without mount?
[06:35] <Amaranth> zack_: I toy with it from time to time and read the devel mailing list.
[06:35] <Kman^> I uh.. have a problem running make files (I think)
[06:35] <MrFarts> oskude, honestly this is very dissappointing
[06:36] <rain`> tritium: I mean the dual xserver method, sometimes that way is better
[06:36] <MrFarts> seems that debian hasn't been able to solve its problems in 6 years
[06:36] <MrFarts> pathetic
[06:36] <MrFarts> the installer is still shit too
[06:36] <Steve> Yeah!!! got my ATI Drivers working!
[06:36] <sfChrisJacob> tritium, I have both working.. they are just on the wrong sides.... RightOf and LeftOf don't seem to change anything
[06:36] <zack_> i heard it is unstable, your opinion?
[06:36] <Amaranth> MrFarts: Language.
[06:36] <{{corona}}> ICE9: how you copying it?
[06:36] <MrFarts> Amaranth, what about it ?
[06:36] <crimsun> {{corona}}: do you mean on next boot or on next mount?
[06:36] <oskude> MrFarts, could you post the line containing universe and multiverse in sources.list ?
[06:36] <EdLin> MrFarts, if you still have a Windows partition, you can copy Windows's *.ttf fonts to a ~/.fonts directory and they will Just Work (and look better than the old corefonts)
[06:37] <MrFarts> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted multiverse
[06:37] <MrFarts> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted multiverse
[06:37] <Amaranth> MrFarts: Please don't swear.
[06:37] <MrFarts> EdLin, what do you mean "still have"
[06:37] <MrFarts> i never had one
[06:37] <{{corona}}> crimsun: my root is corrupted and i want to run fsck, tried using system rescue but wont mount it
[06:37] <EdLin> MrFarts, OK, then never mind.
[06:37] <oskude> MrFarts, wrong, NOT in security...
[06:38] <Amaranth> MrFarts: That's breezy-security, you need to edit the line that says for just breezy
[06:38] <intelikey> {{corona}} you don't fsck a mounted partition
[06:38] <{{corona}}> oh yes i forgot
[06:38] <oskude> MrFarts, like this: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted universe multiverse
[06:38] <MrFarts> ok
[06:38] <rain`> sfChrisJacob: A great website about both non-twinview and twinview is here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors#Nvidia
[06:38] <crimsun> {{corona}}: boot to a live/install cd and e2fsck -Cf the partition
[06:38] <{{corona}}> but then how do i run fsck on say ext2-fs
[06:38] <Kman^> Could somebody help me install xvid codecs?
[06:38] <Aven> : apt-get is an unknown command
[06:38] <MrFarts> ok, now it works
[06:38] <MrFarts> thanks
[06:38] <oskude> MrFarts, and dont forget "sudo apt-get update" after modifyoing..
[06:39] <EdLin> MrFarts, though occasionally the -security universe repository gets security fixes so you might want to leave that.
[06:39] <Aven> I keep receiving that error
[06:39] <Aven> : apt-get is an unknown command
[06:39] <ICE9> if I'm getting permission denied what can I do
[06:39] <ICE9> trying to copy something
[06:39] <MrFarts> oskude, already did that
[06:39] <Aven> ICE9: use sudo
[06:39] <ICE9> sudo does not work
[06:39] <intelikey> {{corona}} you run it on the device-node   'sudo e2fsck /dev/hd?#
[06:39] <ICE9> what else
[06:39] <Steve> does anyone know of a player better than amaroK?
[06:39] <Xer0_h4x> ICE9, run sudo -s
[06:39] <Aven> it should
[06:39] <ICE9> chmod + x does not work
[06:39] <Xer0_h4x> then run it
[06:39] <oskude> MrFarts, and do you now get it ?
[06:39] <ICE9> what does -s do
[06:39] <{{corona}}> crimsun: intelikey: how do i run it on device-node?
[06:40] <Xer0_h4x> ICE9, try it
[06:40] <Xer0_h4x> its like using su
[06:40] <Aven> sudo -s would work, probably
[06:40] <Xer0_h4x> (like other linuxs)
[06:40] <mtupper> hey all, anybody help me get my sound to work on an HP Pavilion dv1000 laptop...   It worked fine after ubuntu install, then I installed KDE desktop and now no sound...
[06:40] <rain`> Should I avoid usb headphones wshen using linux? Does their being usb mean they have to install some kind of driver when you plug them in? Does this work with linux/ubuntu?
[06:40] <Xer0_h4x> sudo -s
[06:40] <Xer0_h4x> then the commands
[06:40] <wickedpuppy> Aven, what you typed to get that apt-get error ?
[06:40] <Aven> everytime I type 'su' I always get 'wrong password'
[06:40] <intelikey> {{corona}} you run it on the device-node   'sudo e2fsck /dev/hd?# '  <---- like that but where the ? is the letter and the # is the partition number
[06:40] <ICE9> cp: cannot create regular file `/glftpd/bin/ldconfig': Permission denied
[06:40] <Aven> wickedpuppy: it was a joke sorry, hehe :P
[06:41] <MrFarts> oskude, yes, it's installed
[06:41] <sfChrisJacob> rain`, Thanks for the site... I'll check it ouy
[06:41] <ICE9> this is what I get
[06:41] <oskude> MrFarts, niceone
[06:41] <ICE9> any clue
[06:41] <MrFarts> do i need to do anything with the font server in order to have everything work properly ?
[06:41] <sfChrisJacob> s/ouy/out
[06:41] <wickedpuppy> ICE9, what you typed ?
[06:41] <crimsun> MrFarts: by default Ubuntu doesn't use a font server.
[06:41] <oskude> MrFarts, after installing the package you should be able to use the fonts right-away...
[06:41] <{{corona}}> intelikey: ok so i dont have a ubuntu live cd  but i do have a linx system rescue live cd
[06:41] <intelikey> {{corona}} you can use 'sudo fdisk -l ' to view partition types on your system.
[06:41] <MrFarts> oskude, thanks
[06:41] <ICE9> sudo -s  cp /usr/lib/* /glftpd/lib;  cp /sbin/ldconfig /glftpd/bin
[06:42] <MrFarts> i
[06:42] <Xer0_h4x> ICE9, no no
[06:42] <MrFarts> i'm not quite sure i see the wisdom is using sudo like this btw ...
[06:42] <wickedpuppy> ICE9, i strongly suggest you man sudo
[06:42] <Xer0_h4x> ICE9, sudo -s (the put in your password) then when it has a # at the end do cp /usr/lib/* /glftpd/lib;  cp /sbin/ldconfig /glftpd/bin
[06:43] <intelikey> {{corona}} if it is linux, it should be the same commands.   you may not need the 'sudo' part though.
[06:43] <{{corona}}> intelikey:ok thanks will try
[06:43] <{{corona}}> crimsun: thanks
[06:43] <superbeast> how do i get a audigy 2 zs to work in ubuntu
[06:43] <sfChrisJacob> rain`, duh... I am using twinview.... came across that in a sample on Google... Everything is perfect short of the left is on the right and the right is on the left.... Any ideas?
[06:44] <oskude> how do i set my user as AFK/Away in here ?
[06:44] <wickedpuppy> superbeast, call creative ... incidently .. i am in singapore , hq of creative
[06:44] <crimsun> superbeast: should work by default. Paste the output from ''cat /proc/asound/cards'' and ''amixer'' onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:44] <ICE9> thx I got it
[06:44] <helpmeplz> hello
[06:44] <ICE9> sudo always screws me up
[06:44] <helpmeplz> I am trying to get Kdevelop up and running
[06:44] <ICE9> used to using root
[06:44] <helpmeplz> on my ubuntu system
[06:44] <helpmeplz> I can get everything going
[06:44] <wickedpuppy> helpmeplz, sudo apt-get install kdevelop
[06:44] <intelikey> sokude  /nick blah
[06:44] <helpmeplz> I did that
[06:44] <helpmeplz> I have it
[06:44] <helpmeplz> but part of it keeps crashing
[06:44] <Xer0_h4x> ICE9, yeah was a change from slackware :P
[06:45] <helpmeplz> Kdevelop Designer keeps crashing whenever I open it
[06:45] <helpmeplz> the rest of the Kdevelop suite works fine
[06:45] <wickedpuppy> helpmeplz, for that pls email to kdevelop mailing list .. i doubt here has kdevelop devs
[06:45] <helpmeplz> but the designer will never open
[06:45] <helpmeplz> ok
[06:45] <helpmeplz> I will bug #kdevelop
[06:45] <wickedpuppy> pls do
[06:46] <intelikey> anyone know xorg.conf ?    looking for mouse speed control line ?
[06:46] <superbeast> ok got it working
[06:46] <superbeast> the problem was with nvidea onboard sound
[06:46] <Madpilot> intelikey: try System menu - Prefs - Mouse
[06:47] <mtupper> anybody help me get my sound to work on an HP Pavilion dv1000 laptop?   It worked fine after ubuntu install, then I installed KDE desktop and now no sound...
[06:47] <rain`> sfChrisJacob: try "CRT-0 LeftOf CRT-1" or the other way around "CRT-1 LeftOf CRT-0"
[06:47] <durt> intelikey: option "MaxSpeed" or option "AccelFactor" perhaps
[06:48] <rain`> sfChrisJacob: dont worry if they are LCDs, vga ports are always marked as CRT
[06:48] <intelikey> k durt thanks,  it seems i have nuked 'man'  but i will fix that later.
[06:48] <superbeast> for 1024x768 i can only do 61 hz how do i change that to my monitors max (116hz)
[06:49] <durt> how the hell'd you do that intelikey?
[06:50] <intelikey> removing things to make room for x durt
[06:50] <MrFarts> peter@sweetcheeks:~$ sudo apt-get install gcc-4.0-base libgcc1
[06:50] <MrFarts> Reading package lists... Done
[06:50] <MrFarts> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:50] <MrFarts> gcc-4.0-base is already the newest version.
[06:50] <MrFarts> that in the world does that mean ?
[06:50] <durt> superbeast, you'd have to edit VertRefresh in xorg.conf under section "monitor" - but be careful, you monitor might explode or something
[06:50] <MrFarts> i don't have gcc installed
[06:50] <superbeast> hmmm
[06:50] <durt> apparently you do mrfarts
[06:51] <MrFarts> durt: no i dont
[06:51] <wickedpuppy> MrFarts, you sure you got no gcc ? type gcc and press tab
[06:51] <Amaranth> MrFarts: You have the base installed though.
[06:51] <MrFarts> wickedpuppy, i do not have gcc
[06:51] <sfChrisJacob> rain`, That goes in the server layout section right? Does it need an "Option" before it?
[06:51] <durt> yes you do
[06:51] <MrFarts> durt: wanna bet ?
[06:51] <Gecko> Hello, I wondered if there is a possibility to make a net-based install of ubuntu. I am currently in china, and do not have the major international bandwidth
[06:51] <superbeast> durt, i want to get 100hz like i do in windows what would the setting be?
[06:51] <wickedpuppy> lol
[06:51] <Amaranth> MrFarts: Install the build-essential package.
[06:51] <bungle> linux drivers are a biatch to install now
[06:51] <bungle> nvidia*
[06:51] <intelikey> MrFarts 'dpkg -la | grep gcc '
[06:51] <durt> superbeast: VertRefresh 100
[06:51] <MrFarts> i just installed it
[06:51] <AngryPunk> is there a way to remove openoffice 2.0 ?
[06:52] <MrFarts> apt-get gcc
[06:52] <MrFarts> er apt-get install gcc
[06:52] <bungle> the old 2 seprate packages were fine
[06:52] <durt> bungle: apt-get nvidia-glx
[06:52] <MrFarts> apparently gcc-base doesn't include gcc
[06:52] <MrFarts> *scratches head*
[06:52] <superbeast> durt, do i have to mess with horz to not mess my monitor up?
[06:52] <bungle> apt-get isntall
[06:52] <AngryPunk> id rather use the 1.x series
[06:52] <bungle> pfff I can't spell to day
[06:53] <durt> superbeast: i dont know, you'll have to look that up
[06:53] <MrFarts> Amaranth, of course it doesn't actually work ...
[06:53] <intelikey> MrFarts build-essential
[06:53] <superbeast> k
[06:53] <MrFarts> intelikey, what is build-essential ?
[06:53] <intelikey> what you want
[06:53] <rain`> essential build stuff
[06:53] <rain`> haha
[06:53] <wickedpuppy> !build-essential
[06:53] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: Syntax error in line 1
[06:54] <MrFarts> intelikey, why isn't a want in the gcc package ?
[06:54] <wickedpuppy> ah no bot entry
[06:54] <rain`> !buildessential
[06:54] <ubotu> rain`: Bugger all, i dunno
[06:54] <Amaranth> MrFarts: Exactly what it sounds like, the essential stuff for building things.
[06:54] <Amaranth> !be
[06:54] <ubotu> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:54] <durt> apt-get install gcc-4.0
[06:54] <Amaranth> that's...useless :P
[06:54] <MrFarts> Amaranth, why would i want the compiler by itself ?
[06:54] <durt> so you can compile stuff
[06:55] <Amaranth> MrFarts: err, build-essential installs more than the compiler
[06:55] <Amaranth> !info build-essential
[06:55] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[06:55] <MrFarts> durt, you can't actually do anything useful without a linker
[06:55] <intelikey> gause some things depend on gcc-base but the dev's didn't feel like putting all the compiler on the cd MrFarts
[06:55] <wickedpuppy> MrFarts, wait .. why you want gcc in the first place ? i am curious
[06:55] <EdLin> MrFarts, "apt-cache show build-essential" or running apt-get will reveal that it's a meta package that downloads much more than just the compiler.
[06:55] <intelikey> ok good night everybody.
[06:56] <Amaranth> MrFarts: If you want the low-level details build-essential contains all of the packages you can assume are already installed on a buildd (server to build packages for the distro)
[06:56] <sfChrisJacob> rain`, Thanks.... I got it fixed.... In the device section I added  Option "TwinViewOrientation" "DFP-0 LeftOf DFP-1"
[06:56] <sfChrisJacob> going to restart my main x session now.... So again thanks for the help...
[06:56] <freddy> if i install a debian package with dpkg -i foo.deb...how can i go about uninstalling a deb package?
[06:57] <wickedpuppy> freddy, man dpkg
[06:57] <Gecko> Is it possible to use a debian net-install cd to install ubuntu?
[06:57] <EdLin> freddy, apt-get remove
[06:57] <EdLin> Gecko, no
[06:57] <freddy> wickedpuppy, no such document :(
[06:57] <freddy> i tried it
[06:57] <EdLin> Gecko, mixing Debian and Ubuntu repositories will cause breakage.
[06:57] <wickedpuppy> no such man dpkg ?
[06:58] <wickedpuppy> you sure ?
[06:58] <freddy> freddy@lappy:~$ man dpkg
[06:58] <freddy> No manual entry for dpkg
[06:58] <freddy> See 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available.
[06:58] <MrFarts> wickedpuppy, because i'm a software developer
[06:58] <MrFarts> i'm perverted like that
[06:58] <oskude> freddy, try "dpkg -r" or "dpkg --remove"
[06:58] <wickedpuppy> MrFarts, then get build-essential
[06:58] <Gecko> EdLin: Well, if you don't add any debian repositories during install and run it from the ubuntu repositories, it should work, right?
[06:58] <EdLin> Gecko, no
[06:58] <mtupper> anybody help me get my sound to work?  It worked fine after ubuntu install, then I installed KDE desktop and now no sound...   ANYBODY?
[06:58] <Gecko> EdLin: Why?
[06:58] <EdLin> Gecko, the base system is different too.
[06:59] <wickedpuppy> funny ... how can there be no man dpkg on ya system ??? it should be default on ubuntu
[06:59] <MrFarts> build-essential seems to have done the trick
[06:59] <MrFarts> thanks
[06:59] <Gecko> EdLin: I see... Well, as a few people have reporting to succesfully upgrading from sid or even sarge to ubuntu, I guess I could upgrade using a very minimal base install?
[07:00] <EdLin> Gecko, I wouldn't recommend it.
[07:00] <Gecko> EdLin: It seems to be my only possibility to get ubuntu right now...
[07:00] <MrFarts> what does the "server" install include btw ?
[07:00] <EdLin> Gecko, why?
[07:00] <helpmeplz> how does one create a symbolic link
[07:00] <MrFarts> and is there a way of making automated installs with ubuntu ?
[07:01] <wickedpuppy> helpmeplz, ln ... and man ln for more info
[07:01] <EdLin> helpmeplz, ln -s
[07:01] <helpmeplz> thanks
[07:01] <Gecko> EdLin: I don't have an internet connection that can bear the download of the cd, and the only linux I could buy around here was fedora core 2...
[07:01] <freddy> damn i dont know how to remove it
[07:01] <Gecko> EdLin: the shipIt cd's haven't arrived either
[07:01] <Grug> edlin - lol now *that* brings back the memories :)
[07:02] <EdLin> Gecko, shipit.ubuntu.com. It's how I got my Ubuntu. :-)
[07:02] <Gecko> EdLin: I know, I already ordered from there
[07:02] <EdLin> Gecko, big rewards for those who wait. ;-)
[07:02] <MrFarts> EdLin, don't you have broadband ?
[07:02] <Gecko> EdLin :)
[07:02] <EdLin> MrFarts, no broadband
[07:02] <MrFarts> EdLin, poor deprived child
[07:02] <MrFarts> i downloaded ubuntu in 20 minutes :)
[07:03] <EdLin> Gecko, actually, if you're willing to download a bit over a day, you can download just the single install iso over the net. I did that for Hoary.
[07:03] <helpmeplz> OH HAIL YEAH
[07:03] <helpmeplz> that got Kdevelop workings
[07:03] <oskude> freddy, "dpkg -r <package name>" wont work ?
[07:03] <gwark> 256kn took a few hours
[07:03] <wickedpuppy> oskude, any error ?
[07:03] <gwark> but worth it
[07:03] <durt> huh? heil hitler?
[07:03] <oskude> wickedpuppy, wrong user u ask ? :)
[07:04] <wickedpuppy> oh i thought you saying that command doesn't work
[07:04] <wickedpuppy> lol
[07:04] <helpmeplz> silly apt did not create a symbolic link between Kdevelop and Kdevelop3
[07:04] <oskude> :)
[07:04] <helpmeplz> that is what caused the crash
[07:04] <helpmeplz> now it works
[07:04] <helpmeplz> brb
[07:07] <oskude> am i lagging, or is no one saying anythign... :)
[07:07] <robotgeek> i think no one is saying anything
[07:07] <icon256> not anymore
[07:07] <icon256> lol
[07:07] <oskude> omg, newer seen that :)
[07:07] <mtupper> sweet thanks!
[07:07] <robotgeek> hmm, at #ubuntu we fix everything :)
[07:08] <oskude> :)
[07:08] <icon256> yeah I'm looking to put pvr or dvr on this OS by of MythTV
[07:08] <wackymush> hey what are some kernel bootup arguments i can give to not boot x, and just run with terminals
[07:09] <oskude> i tried mythtv too, very complicated: http://www.abarbaccia.com/
[07:09] <icon256> "tried" seems hard already
[07:09] <icon256> lol
[07:09] <MrFarts> does anyone know where i can change the awful font that ubuntu uses for menus ? :)
[07:10] <oskude> icon256, well, i stopped after "apt-get install mythtv" was not enough :)
[07:10] <durt> theres a font howto in the forums
[07:10] <icon256> that's not good, did you get anything working on it?
[07:10] <icon256> I guess not if you stop "apt-get install mythtv"
[07:11] <icon256> I belive you had to compile it before you ran that line.
[07:11] <oskude> icon256, i didnt stop apt-get, but i somehow blow the configuration of mythtv and couldnt reconfigure/remove it...
[07:12] <oskude> and the tut in http://www.abarbaccia.com/ is so cimplicated :)
[07:13] <oskude> and as i know PD, i programmed my own tv recorder with it :)
[07:13] <icon256> aww...I'm probably going to have the same trouble then. But I'll try it anyway. Got the tv card and tvout; maybe I'll just go with microsoft Media center or something.
[07:14] <EdLin> icon256, Media Center is full of DRM
[07:14] <oskude> icon256, i just got confused as mythv asked about my mysql root password, AFTER it installed mysql... and that i couldnt make reverse...
[07:15] <oskude> sry, ment BEFORE it instaled mysql
[07:15] <icon256> that's ok, umm...interesting, so I'll still have to try This OS Ubuntu
[07:15] <icon256> I'll let you know if I see you on, in next couple weeks.
[07:16] <oskude> icon256, try to install mysql FIRST, set its root password and then install mythtv
[07:16] <icon256> k
[07:16] <icon256> that's good to know.
[07:16] <wackymush> can i keep all that fancy gnome gui shit from loading, through arguments at the boot prompt?
[07:16] <icon256> thanks, I hope it works
[07:17] <oskude> icon256, i got mythtv to "work" but the communicytion with mysql was not working right...
[07:17] <icon256> I understand...I will try that way you just said, think it will work?
[07:17] <selm> um, i just installed ubuntu on my powerbook, and i cant find my airport, nor can i connect to my network through a hardwire connection. i was wondering if any one had run in to this before?
[07:17] <oskude> icon256, so as i tried to setup with "mythtv-setup" nothing was saved...
[07:18] <icon256> Selm, I have ran it to that.
[07:18] <icon256> I don't know if there's any type of encryption. WAP???
[07:18] <icon256> does Ubuntu handle it? I don't know either.
[07:18] <libervisco> when you do apt-get update or just update repositories from synaptic, where is this database stored?
[07:18] <oskude> if you set up mysql before mythtv, and when installing mythtv give the right mysql root password it couls work...
[07:19] <selm> no no, i cant find the airport card in my comp.
[07:19] <EdLin> selm, Linux doesn't support the airport because it has proprietary specs.
[07:19] <icon256> nice, I should try that then, Thanks so much for this quick advice. cool. I be trying this week end after clean my house for sale.
[07:19] <selm> damn it
[07:20] <EdLin> selm, you should be able to run your wired NIC though; google about it.
[07:20] <selm> ok...
[07:20] <oskude> but this seems a very indepth howto for ubuntu&mythtv: http://www.abarbaccia.com/
[07:20] <icon256> interesting edlin, and selm.
[07:20] <icon256> oskude, k I will read it in addition to your advise.
[07:20] <selm> thanks for you help
[07:21] <nickrud> libervisco, /var/lib/apt/lists
[07:21] <oskude> icon256, roger, if you get it work, post on ubuntuforums.org :)
[07:21] <EdLin> icon256, it's very hard to write a driver if you don't have any specifications; Apple chose to make the airport have secret specifcations and didn't at least make available a binary Linux driver. Complain to them.
[07:21] <icon256> yes sir! lol
[07:21] <oskude> :)
[07:22] <bungle> YAY nikon d70 auto dectect
[07:22] <bungle> I love my cam
[07:22] <libervisco> alright, thanks nickrud :)
[07:22] <icon256> Edlin, Lol, I just thought because it was encrypted or something WAP.
[07:22] <MrFarts> does anyone know how to change the default ubuntu mouse cursors ?
[07:22] <nickrud> libervisco, /var/lib/dpkg is also interesting
[07:22] <freddy> i love wireless on linux :)
[07:22] <bungle> system - preferences - mouse ? MrFarts
[07:22] <EdLin> icon256, no, WEP is just a practically worthless encryption standard that has little to nothing to do with your hardware support.
[07:22] <icon256> freddy, it work at home right.
[07:23] <MrFarts> bungle, there is only one "theme" installed
[07:23] <icon256> freddy, did you try at airports?
[07:23] <MrFarts> i'm not sure how to install other "themes" because i don't know where they are stored
[07:23] <freddy> it works on my laptop so perfect..when any other distro could help me configure it right
[07:23] <icon256> Edlin, right, my bad, WEP
[07:23] <libervisco> nickrud, I see.. I'm asking because I want to update the list in hoary and import that in breezy because I can't compile my modem driver there
[07:23] <icon256> k
[07:23] <bungle>  /usr/share/themes ?
[07:24] <nickrud> libervisco, not a good idea, i don't think
[07:24] <EdLin> icon256, keep WEP enabled though, it's somewhat better than nothing; at least it will keep people from using your connection accidentally.
[07:24] <nickrud> libervisco, which modem driver?
[07:24] <libervisco> I just want to install GCC 3 somehow on breezy, because it wont compile on GCC 4
[07:24] <libervisco> nickrud, connexant HSF
[07:24] <Agrajag> libervisco: apt-get install gcc-3.4
[07:24] <nickrud> libervisco, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[07:25] <libervisco> nickrud, but there's no connection if there's no modem :)
[07:25] <oskude> btw. what are the 530 of 560 users doing here ? afk ? :)
[07:25] <libervisco> that's the catch
[07:25] <icon256> I usually do, I just didn't know if it made a difference in the airports since so many people might be using the same Wifi router
[07:25] <nickrud> libervisco, heh
[07:25] <icon256> night everyone thanks for the chat.
[07:25] <zorba64> oskude: loitering while doing other shit
[07:25] <libervisco> so I want to install it somehow by downloading packs in hoary and then installing in breezy
[07:25] <nickrud> libervisco, do you have acces to another linux machine on the net
[07:26] <oskude> zorba64, and why dont they set "away" ... =
[07:26] <oskude> ?
[07:26] <libervisco> nickrud, no, just this comp
[07:26] <nickrud> libervisco, take a look at apt-zip, it's for getting packages and dependencies on a machine with no net access
[07:26] <MrFarts> bungle, those are not cursor themes
[07:26] <libervisco> nick58b, will do :)
[07:26] <libervisco> sounds interesting :)
[07:26] <zorba64> oskude: maybe don't know how to...or can't be bothered or are zzzz
[07:26] <nickrud> libervisco, you can boot hoary, and have net there, right?
[07:26] <libervisco> nickrud, right
[07:26] <nickrud> try that
[07:27] <oskude> zorba64, or dont really care :=
[07:27] <oskude> )
[07:27] <snowowl> what has to be done @ freenode .net
[07:27] <bungle> MrFarts, isn't the cursor theme "human"
[07:27] <bungle> is human not listed in the themes section
[07:28] <MrFarts> bungle, there is both a cursor theme "human" and a gnome theme "human"
[07:28] <nickrud> or maybe building a searchable database of answers :)
[07:29] <oskude> 560 users and no-one talking, lol :)
[07:29] <wickedpuppy> oskude, nobody ?
[07:29] <snowowl> does anyone use the Xinerama extension
[07:29] <bungle> tru I dunno where the cursor themes are .. I no my b/f was trying to take pics of me asleep though
[07:29] <oskude> wickedpuppy, well, VERY VERY few...
[07:29] <nelson> snowowl: I do.
[07:30] <nelson> snowowl: did you have a question about xinerama?
[07:30] <wickedpuppy> oskude, thats true of all support channels ... helpers help in turn and well those in trouble ask...
[07:30] <snowowl> I have three samsungs using Xinerama but one wont do opengl
[07:30] <nickrud> cursor fonts can be put in .gnome2/share/cursor-fonts, if I remember right
[07:30] <nelson> snowowl: 3D accelleration and xinerama don't work at the same time.
[07:31] <pilgrim> Hi all. I'm no ubuntu user, nor am I a troll, I'm just doing research. Having said that, what kind of stuff works out of the box in Ubuntu (e.g. digital camera, flash drive, etc)?
[07:31] <oskude> wickedpuppy, i was just wondering why people stay in channel if obiosly AFK...
[07:31] <wickedpuppy> pilgrim, there is live cd ...
[07:31] <snowowl> tow Samsung monitors is on adp nvidia other is on PCI nvidia
[07:31] <snowowl> agp*
[07:31] <nelson> oskude: because they're going to read the log or scrollback.
[07:31] <wickedpuppy> oskude, i am in 8 channels ... i can't be talking on all :P
[07:32] <pilgrim> wickedpuppy: and that's a true reflection of what ubuntu is capable of?
[07:32] <nickrud> argh, need to read more carefully sometimes
[07:32] <nelson> snowowl: right.  I don't think *any* hardware supports both 3D hardware and xinerama.
[07:32] <Madpilot> pilgrim: mostly
[07:32] <icon256> oskude, wow, this site is good. This really is good at explaining every aspect, thanks
[07:32] <wickedpuppy> pilgrim, live cd is the live image of the install cd ... of course once you install you got more options but you want right out of the box without any tweaking
[07:32] <snowowl> thanks nelson - its a little disapointing though
[07:32] <oskude> ok, sry im new to IRC and it annoyng to see 560 users online and actually 10 are talking (why not set away?)
[07:33] <wickedpuppy> oskude, yah sure .. pls msg them to put their nick on away when they go away...
[07:33] <oskude> who asked about mouse pointers, he are some themes: http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=36
[07:33] <Madpilot> oskude: setting 'away' doesn't, AFAIK, remove you from the user count of a channel - and several clients do irritating away/still away/returned messages...
[07:33] <nelson> snowowl: indeed, yes.
[07:34] <nickrud> dange I can't find anything in X anymore, it's all moved
[07:34] <rubin> anyone know how to make kino sound work in esound?
[07:34] <rubin> does esd make a /dev device you can play via?
[07:34] <oskude> wickedpuppy, but i would see them "gray" in my list so i see they are not watching the chat atm...
[07:34] <Madpilot> pilgrim: from my own experience - and other's reports - digital cameras "just work" - plug them in and gThumb will pull down their pictures...
[07:35] <pilgrim> Madpilot: cool. cool.
[07:35] <wickedpuppy> oskude, whether they watch or don't ... does it matter ?? i am curious ... not arguing ...
[07:35] <pilgrim> And upgrading from one version to next, painless or not?
[07:35] <thechitowncubs> pilgrim, my capture card worked out of the box
[07:35] <kapputu> what's the difference between helix player and real player?
[07:35] <oskude> wickedpuppy, well, not really. its just "annoying" to _see_ they are online, but arent...
[07:35] <thechitowncubs> pilgrim, my network card worked out of the box
[07:36] <wickedpuppy> oskude, ah ... then you havn't been to efnet or undernet ...
[07:36] <oskude> wickedpuppy, nope, im a IRC noob :)
[07:36] <Madpilot> pilgrim: upgrading is fairly painless
[07:36] <thechitowncubs> pilgrim, pretty much my whole computer, all i had to add on was nvidia's proprietary drivers for gfx support
[07:37] <pilgrim> thechitowncubs: not bad, I say.
[07:37] <oskude> so what ever i see on the users list, the first question should be "is there anybody out there" :)
[07:37] <snowowl> I uograded my XBox to the new version quite easily
[07:37] <kapputu> what's the difference between helix player and real player?
[07:37] <wickedpuppy> oskude, another channel if you wish you talk more about this pls .. or pm me
[07:37] <thechitowncubs> snowowl, new version of what?
[07:37] <crimsun> kapputu: realplay contains real.com's proprietary codecs
[07:38] <Madpilot> oskude: join #ubuntu-offtopic if you just want to chat
[07:38] <wickedpuppy> snowowl, i turned my xbox 360 degrees and there i have it .. xbox360
[07:38] <oskude> roger, (no more ot)
[07:38] <snowowl> Wick: lol
[07:39] <acc__> join #KUbuntu
[07:39] <acc__> :-)
[07:39] <snowowl> I mean to the new verion of ubuntu
[07:40] <misfit_toy> snowowl, breezy 360?
[07:41] <Madpilot> snowowl: you run Ubuntu on your XBox? cool.
[07:42] <info> +i
[07:44] <snowowl> XBOX linux project
[07:44] <gowri> hai
[07:45] <gowri> hello
[07:45] <gowri> i am new to ubantu
[07:45] <gowri> i need help
[07:45] <gowri> relp help
[07:45] <snowowl> gowri: with what
[07:45] <freddy> ubantu
[07:45] <freddy> lol
[07:45] <yi> where could i get the mozconfig for the firefox that's shipped with ubuntu?
[07:45] <nelson> gowri: you have to ask a more specific question than that.
[07:45] <freddy> sounds like a fisher price toy
[07:45] <gowri> i dont see kde when i start my pc
[07:46] <gowri> i directly log on to gnome
[07:46] <freddy> cause there isnt
[07:46] <wickedpuppy> gowri, you are aware of the ubuntu->gnome and kubuntu->kde links ??
[07:46] <Madpilot> gowri: Ubuntu only installs Gnome...
[07:46] <gowri> nope
[07:46] <gowri> ok
[07:47] <GURT> i got breezy CDs today :D
[07:47] <gowri> can i get them for free
[07:47] <wickedpuppy> GURT, where you live ?
[07:47] <GURT> yes
[07:47] <GURT> wickedpuppy: new york state
[07:47] <lish> GURT: Isnt it cool?
[07:47] <wickedpuppy> ah heck ... i am in asia
[07:47] <Madpilot> gowri: if you've got Ubuntu/Gnome installed, you can switch to Kubuntu/KDE
[07:47] <snowowl> gowri: Too easy - Log in and go to synaptic and install  "kubuntu desktop" I can guide you
[07:47] <GURT> lish: yeah i guess.. i love getting mail.. and free stuff.. and things i can give away
[07:48] <wickedpuppy> GURT, free spam ?
[07:48] <GURT> no, stuff :P
[07:48] <gowri> ok
[07:48] <lish> I feel ubuntu and debian... give me the feeling of love :P
[07:49] <nelson> lish: Okay.  We all love you.
[07:49] <GURT> yeah
[07:49] <gowri> but how will do that
[07:49] <GURT> but you can't have my beer
[07:49] <lish> nelson: so good!
[07:49] <GURT> gowri: hang on
[07:49] <yahya> i noticed a lot of docs in /usr/share/doc.. is there a viewer for these?
[07:49] <gowri> synaptic...?
[07:49] <rob1> no thats your hand
[07:49] <GURT> gowri: nvm.. i thought you were asking me.
[07:50] <Madpilot> !tell gowri about synaptic
[07:50] <gowri> plz
[07:50] <gowri> plz guide me
[07:50] <Madpilot> gowri: you should have gotten a msg from ubotu w/ a URL
[07:50] <gowri> yes
[07:50] <oskude> yahya, i think they are mostly normal text files
[07:51] <gowri>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:51] <lish> In linux,a terminal is necessary ,of course
[07:51] <quaik8> yahya use less gedit nano or vim ^^
[07:51] <xzrsrm> hello
[07:51] <xzrsrm> hello
[07:52] <yahya> oskude: they're mostly .gz. i thought there would be some software to browse them
[07:52] <snowowl> gowri: Applications Menu->Terminal-> Type " sudo apt-get install synaptic"
[07:52] <oskude> yahya, "zless"
[07:52] <gowri> ok it is same as add and remove prgs in windows
[07:52] <wickedpuppy> snowowl, synaptic comes with ubuntu
[07:52] <snowowl> yup
[07:52] <Madpilot> snowowl: it's installed by default...
[07:52] <quaik8> great i didn't know about zless
[07:53] <Madpilot> gowri: it's more powerful than add/remove in Windows
[07:53] <CORONA> anyone knows what is the best thing to do when you have a complete system freeze- no mouse, keyboard...is it a reboot?
[07:53] <acetech> does anyone know an equivilant for xdccklicker in linux?
[07:53] <gowri> oh ok
[07:53] <yahya> oskude: thanks.
[07:53] <oskude> yahya, youre welcome
[07:53] <wickedpuppy> CORONA, its time to scream if you ever see something like this in ubuntu
[07:53] <snowowl> gowri: Applications Menu->Terminal-> Type " sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[07:54] <gowri> what should i do after opening it
[07:54] <CORONA> wickedpuppy: it happens quite a bit to me ;)
[07:55] <wickedpuppy> CORONA, then check ya /var/log ....your hardware got big problem ... apps crash .. for kernel itself to freeze is another thing
[07:55] <Madpilot> gowri: hit the search button, search for "kubuntu" - choose the "kubuntu-desktop" package, and hit the Apply button
[07:55] <snowowl> gowri: if you have synaptic open click on the window with all the check boxes and type "kubuntu-desktop" it should highlight the package
[07:55] <CORONA> wickedpuppy: i have lot of crashes on kde apps
[07:56] <rabeldable> anyone in here know anything about the apache module mod_security?
[07:56] <wickedpuppy> CORONA, app crashes all the time ... but you said the whole OS froze
[07:56] <Madpilot> rabeldable: #apache?
[07:56] <wickedpuppy> rabeldable, #apache
[07:56] <necator> hey guys does ubuntu have some kind of built in firewall? im trying to use azureus to download a torrent and i keep getting no connection. I think its a nat error and wondering if maybe ubuntu is blocking it with a firewall?
[07:56] <rabeldable> I've been to #apache
[07:56] <rabeldable> thank you
[07:56] <CORONA> wickedpuppy: ya first its the apps then the whole system freezes
[07:57] <CORONA> wickedpuppy: which log file should i look at
[07:57] <wickedpuppy> CORONA, then its just more than apps crashing .. check ya /var/log/message
[07:57] <CORONA> wickedpuppy: ok
[07:57] <Madpilot> necator: install Firestarter and make sure the bittorrent ports are opened
[07:57] <necator> is firestarter located in apt-get ?
[07:57] <wickedpuppy> necator, get firestarter .. open 6881-6889 ... btw some ISPs block those ports
[07:57] <wickedpuppy> necator, of course
[07:58] <necator> is firestarter the most often recommended firewall? or just easiest ot use ?
[07:58] <wickedpuppy> necator, why not try it out ?
[07:58] <necator> am about too now
[07:58] <wickedpuppy> ok
[07:58] <necator> just wondering while i try it if its a popular firewall or not
[07:58] <snowowl> wick: Is firestarter in the default repositories
[07:59] <wickedpuppy> necator, its the frontend for iptables ...
[07:59] <wickedpuppy> snowowl, yes
[07:59] <necator> my comp said firestarter is already at the newest version.
[07:59] <wickedpuppy> should be .. if not enable uni and multi
[07:59] <necator> so it appears i have it already.
[07:59] <necator> how do i use it?
[07:59] <necator> nm got it goin
[07:59] <wickedpuppy> necator, ... type firestarter or application -> internet ->firestarter
[07:59] <necator> thx guys
[08:00] <necator> it dossent appear in my applications > internet > spot but it does run from the terminal.
[08:00] <foobar> how would I have an command execute on startup (an app launch rather)?
[08:00] <snowowl> system tools-firestarter
[08:00] <wickedpuppy> necator, oh it should be in system tools
[08:00] <necator> yup its there.
[08:00] <necator> thx
[08:01] <wickedpuppy> foobar, startup as in start of init or start or x ?
[08:01] <necator> o since im installing a firewall now im curious do i need all those other secuirty apps too like anti virus and anti spyware etc?
[08:01] <foobar> x
[08:01] <Madpilot> necator: not really
[08:01] <snowowl> necator: This aint Windows
[08:01] <necator> snowowl thats y i was asking.
[08:02] <necator> snowowl to see if i needed to take the same precautions
[08:02] <CORONA> wickedpuppy: if an app like amarok crashed would it be logged in /var/log/messages
[08:02] <snowowl> Neca: ClamAV is a nice virus scan though
[08:02] <Madpilot> necator: there aren't really any Linxu viruses
[08:02] <wickedpuppy> CORONA, yes
[08:02] <necator> the firestarter wizard says i can eable internet connetion sharing
[08:02] <necator> doi need to do that if im already behind a router?
[08:03] <wickedpuppy> necator, if you are behind a router you gotta forward the port there too
[08:03] <oskude> ist there a program that shows disk usage, like "top" shows cpu usage ?
[08:03] <wickedpuppy> oskude, df
[08:03] <necator> forward the port for firestarter? i dont quite understand.
[08:03] <acetech__> is it a good idea to setup a firewall in linux when I already have it setup on my router?
[08:03] <oskude> wickedpuppy, i think u gave me that answer allready :) df != top
[08:03] <Reeld> Hey guys
[08:03] <wickedpuppy> necator, you gotta forward the port on the router ..
[08:04] <Reeld> How do I compile the kernal?
[08:04] <necator> wickedpuppy yes but which port?
[08:04] <Madpilot> necator: you might have to forward the bittorrent ports
[08:04] <necator> madpilot o ok that ive done.
[08:04] <Madpilot> necator: but I didn't have to, despite being behind a router...
[08:04] <NoUse> !tell Reeld about kernelhowto
[08:04] <wickedpuppy> acetech, no need really ... but if you want go ahead .. its your call
[08:04] <acetech__> neactor: azureus lets you choose which port to listen on
[08:04] <necator> madpilot do i have to enable internet connection sharing in this firestarter wizard or should i leave that job to my router since its doing it already.
[08:05] <oskude> ok, rephrase, is there a program that monitors disk access ? (i want to know what program is using my disk atm)
[08:05] <CORONA> wickedpuppy: it looks ok to me-the messages log. but there are a lot of entries like this one Nov 13 11:32:56 bigbillcotton kernel: [4295159.494000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[08:05] <snowowl> Just for general info: How do you go about fowarding a port to a router
[08:05] <CORONA> Nov 13 11:32:56 bigbillcotton kernel: [4295159.494000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[08:05] <wickedpuppy> CORONA, pls don't paste
[08:05] <wickedpuppy> pastebin pls
[08:05] <CORONA> wickedpuppy: sorry about that
[08:05] <acetech__> snowowl: you have to go into your router...
[08:05] <wickedpuppy> snowowl, router usually have web interface ...
[08:05] <wickedpuppy> 192.168.1.1
[08:05] <wickedpuppy> usually
[08:05] <necator> wickedpuppy do i have to enable internet connection sharing in this firestarter wizard or should i leave that job to my router since its doing it already.
[08:06] <gowri> does ubuntu support fat32
[08:06] <oskude> FYI: 10.20.30.1 is easier to remember/type than 192.168.1.1 :)
[08:06] <snowowl> true, true, thx
[08:06] <wickedpuppy> necator, first ... disable the firewall .. then forward the port on router ... then test ... then on the firewall if you wish and open the port
[08:06] <gowri> does ubuntu support fat32
[08:06] <oskude> gowri, yes
[08:06] <wickedpuppy> gowri, yes
[08:06] <wickedpuppy> you can read and write
[08:07] <dirkson> Say, does anyone know how to bind a key to a command?
[08:07] <acetech__> ubuntu supports NTFS too
[08:07] <necator> wickedpuppy yes im clear on that part im refering to the internet  connection sahring since i share internet in my house. do i enable that in firestarter ? becuase my router is what shares my internet so im not sure if i have to enable it in the firestarter also or jsut leave it be for the router
[08:07] <wickedpuppy> acetech, only read ...
[08:07] <gowri> i dont see my windows 98 partation in ubuntu
[08:07] <oskude> dirkson, System -> Preferences-> Keyboard Shortcuts
[08:08] <necator> gowri i think you have to mount it.
[08:08] <wickedpuppy> gowri, type sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[08:08] <CORONA> wickedpuppy: here http://pastebin.com/427497
[08:08] <gowri> one moment
[08:08] <gowri> i will try
[08:08] <Madpilot> necator: your router will still take care of that
[08:08] <dirkson> Oskude Well, yes, but how do I define my own? I only see options for using the presets? >.<
[08:08] <wickedpuppy> necator, test azureus without doing anything first ....
[08:08] <necator> wickedpuppy i wanted to go ahead and config the firewall now since i dont have one anyway.
[08:08] <oskude> dirkson, just saw the same :) dunno about that, sry (but i would be interested too)
[08:09] <dirkson> Oskude Np : )
[08:09] <necator> i like its system tray icon :p
[08:09] <gowri> after typing what should i do
[08:09] <gowri> it showed all the partations i have
[08:10] <dirkson> Anyone else have any hints for how to bind a key to a command?
[08:10] <gowri> how will i mount them
[08:10] <jrsims> any Apache ninjas here tonight?
[08:10] <wickedpuppy> CORONA, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76271.html
[08:10] <wickedpuppy> jrsims, #apache
[08:10] <wickedpuppy> gowri, man mount
[08:10] <gowri> how to mount fat32
[08:10] <jrsims> wickedpuppy: no, they're very slow tonight. no help.
[08:11] <CORONA> CO http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76271.html
[08:11] <CORONA> sorry i'm trying to copy that
[08:11] <oskude> oh i got one i forgot, i got a program that uses kde-panel to display its icon when minimized, i got gnome and i dont see any icon when i minimize. so is there a command to get that program "infront" again ?
[08:11] <wickedpuppy> gowri, mount -t vfat /dev/to/mount /dir/to/mount
[08:11] <DShepher1> hey
[08:11] <jrsims> besides, my issue may be more an ubuntu question than an apache question
[08:11] <wickedpuppy> jrsims, you can ask but no guarrentee
[08:11] <Fr0Gs> i cant get quake3 demo to work if someone can help me plz message me
[08:11] <necator> so where would i go about opening a port in firestarter? or enabling a program access
[08:11] <DShepher1> I trying to configure sound in flash
[08:11] <jrsims> ok here goes - I'
[08:11] <Fr0Gs> i cant get quake3 demo to work if someone can help me plz message me
[08:11] <DShepher1> I did what the starter guide toldme
[08:12] <DShepher1> but it hasnt seemed to work.Can anyone shed light on this
[08:12] <DShepher1> ?
[08:12] <wickedpuppy> necator, policy
[08:12] <jrsims> I'm running version 2.0 of Apache and it seems a daemon called 'apache2' is running instead of 'httpd'.
[08:12] <wickedpuppy> jrsims, thats correct
[08:13] <jrsims> ok, well here's what's confusing me - the docs at apache.org (for version 2.0) reference 'httpd' instead of 'apache2'. Why is that?
[08:13] <wickedpuppy> jrsims, lol .. for that you gotta ask the apache guys
[08:14] <oskude> or did ubuntu name it apache2 instead of httpd ?
[08:14] <wickedpuppy> jrsims, or you can offer to volunteer the changes ?
[08:14] <jrsims> oskude: EXACTLY.
[08:14] <wickedpuppy> thats easy to answer .. go ask in other distro channels
[08:15] <wickedpuppy> you can get the answer in less than 5 min ... instead of wondering
[08:15] <oskude> i dont have any other distro atm to test, but apache1.x was definetly httpd...
[08:15] <Madpilot> jrsims: Debian changed some Apache things, and Ubuntu has inherited them - that's what some of the #apache ppl told me...
[08:15] <JaMiNkLe> >.> can somebody please help me with mac-fdisk
[08:15] <DShepherd> I can get sound out of my flash..? CAn anyone help
[08:15] <StevenK> oskude: apache 1.3 under Debian is called 'apache'
[08:16] <StevenK> RedHat/Fedora call it httpd.
[08:16] <jrsims> Madpilot: Cool. That would explain a lot.
[08:16] <oskude> StevenK, hmm, it was like 1year a go as i last used debian, and there apache was httpd...
[08:16] <necator> wickedpuppy port seems to be checking out ok in azureus port tester.
[08:16] <necator> wickedpuppy so i think its working ok now. thx for the help.
[08:16] <Noah0504> Does anyone happen to have a version of CrossOver?
[08:16] <wickedpuppy> necator, no need to test the ports .... if you got green light its all fine
[08:16] <Madpilot> jrsims: Apache2 also changed a lot on its own, I gather, and some of the docs might not have caught up
[08:16] <wickedpuppy> Noah0504, ask man ask ... just ask
[08:16] <necator> wickedpuppy havent got the lights yet but im hoping and exspecting them
[08:17] <stazich> how do i add Extra Repositories in Synaptic?
[08:17] <wickedpuppy> !repositories
[08:17] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[08:17] <hijazi> hi every body
[08:17] <Fr0Gs> whats the command for the 3d glxgears
[08:17] <oskude> yeah, doc for OSS, please dont ask ;)
[08:17] <jrsims> Madpilot: offhand, do you know when 2.0 was released?
[08:17] <JaMiNkLe> >.> can somebody please help me with mac-fdisk
[08:17] <Noah0504> wickedpuppy: But I did, haha.
[08:17] <wickedpuppy> Fr0Gs, glxgears ?
[08:17] <Fr0Gs> yer] 
[08:17] <Fr0Gs> u know the 3d one
[08:18] <wickedpuppy> yes .. glxgears ...
[08:18] <stevejesus> whats up guys.  stevejesus is in the house
[08:18] <wickedpuppy> thats the command
[08:18] <Fr0Gs> theres another 1
[08:18] <jrsims> Well, I just tend to think that if you don't have current docs for 2.0, don't call it the 'Apache 2.0 Documentation'.
[08:18] <oskude> JaMiNkLe, hmm, i dont have a mac but whats your problem ?
[08:18] <JaMiNkLe> well.. i have no idea how to use it
[08:18] <necator> wickedpuppy still red but no more nat error
[08:18] <Madpilot> jrsims: the release dates will be in the docs, or on the Apache website
[08:18] <JaMiNkLe> i assume it would be the same as fdisk
[08:19] <stevejesus> so i was thinking about installing this 60gig in my machine and using it as my my home dir....  is there a way to do that?
[08:19] <wickedpuppy> necator, nat error or no .. red light means you got problem with ya network
[08:19] <necator> wickedpuppy i have 2 diff tracker errors
[08:19] <jrsims> Well, thanks for the input everyone. Peace out.
[08:19] <DShepherd> Do i need to restart my broswer after applying the suggested fix for sound in flash?
[08:20] <oskude> JaMiNkLe, i once installed (yellowdog)linux under my friends powerbook, and it was making some funny small partitions to addition of the normal partitions...
[08:20] <Quarupt> Is the new version Stable?
[08:20] <necator> one says connection error zipexception:gzip header corrupted
[08:20] <NoUse> Quarupt yes
[08:20] <necator> other says ok(dht:)
[08:20] <snowowl_> Its a horse it lives a place called a stable
[08:21] <DShepherd> Quarupt: new verison of what?
[08:21] <stevejesus> does anyone know how to move your homedir to another drive and use it from there instead?
[08:21] <DShepherd> Do i need to restart my broswer after applying the suggested fix for sound in flash?..anyone?
[08:21] <Quarupt> of Ubuntu, what else
[08:21] <Madpilot> Quarupt: if you mean Breezy, yes, it's very stable
[08:21] <Quarupt> not Breezy
[08:21] <Quarupt> There are Snapshots on the Ubuntu site for the new version
[08:21] <NoUse> Quarupt if not Breezy, what?
[08:21] <Quarupt> Begins with f
[08:21] <wickedpuppy> necator, ah thats ... tracker problem ? unless i am downloading the same thing as you i wouldn't know
[08:21] <Quarupt> Cant remeber
[08:21] <wickedpuppy> dapper
[08:22] <Quarupt> yea
[08:22] <nelson> dapper duck?
[08:22] <wickedpuppy> lol
[08:22] <Quarupt> It was on slashdot too
[08:22] <NoUse> Quarupt thats not stable, its a dev version
[08:22] <nelson> or dapper dragon.  One or the other.
[08:22] <necator> wickedpuppy well thx for help its late i better get some sleep while i still can
[08:22] <StevenK> dapper drake
[08:22] <nelson> oh, THAT's IT!
[08:22] <Quarupt> its called Drake
[08:22] <Quarupt> yea
[08:22] <StevenK> NoUse: At the moment it's a development version. It will be released.
[08:22] <Quarupt> It was on slashdot front page, I was like YEA BABY thats my distro
[08:22] <NoUse> StevenK yeah I know
[08:23] <nelson> development dapper drake duck dragon.
[08:23] <stevejesus> i suppose noone has experience with that?
[08:23] <oskude> is Drake = like sid on debian ?
[08:23] <wickedpuppy> Quarupt, you are using breezy ?
[08:23] <Quarupt> Yea
[08:23] <wickedpuppy> then you are on the edge already ... as far as stable version goes
[08:23] <Fr0Gs> where can i get an ati driver for a 9200se
[08:23] <wickedpuppy> !ati
[08:23] <Quarupt> Stable is never on the Edge
[08:23] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[08:23] <Madpilot> oskude: Dapper Drake is the next release of Ubuntu, now in dev/testing, it'll be released in April 2006
[08:23] <Quarupt> The edge is beta baby
[08:23] <stevejesus> FrOGs:  just apt-get fglrx
[08:23] <oskude> Madpilot, roger
[08:24] <CORONA> wickedpuppy: thanks for the help, i dont think amarok is logging anything into messages. cause i just switched it on and it does not appear in my system tray. it has been doing this for a while
[08:24] <stevejesus> FrOGs:  apt-get install fglrx
[08:24] <stevejesus> FrOGs:  sudo ofcourse
[08:24] <wickedpuppy> CORONA, no problem .. btw can your nick be in small letters ?
[08:24] <NoUse> Quarupt if you run Dapper, you'll probably get 50-100MB of updates every 1-2 days
[08:24] <Madpilot> Quarupt: then you should be happy running Dapper - just expect to spend the next 5 months crashing ;)
[08:24] <DShepherd> still no sound in flash..help
[08:24] <wickedpuppy> NoUse, i don't think the development is that fast ...
[08:25] <NoUse> wickedpuppy when i've run beta releases of other distros thats how fast it was
[08:25] <CORONA> wickedpuppy: do i have to do a set nick for that?
[08:25] <wickedpuppy> i be astounded if they can change 50-100mb in 2 days ...
[08:25] <Quarupt> I dun care im on a AMD 64 Athlon 3.4Ghz 3 Gigs of ram sittin on a 7Mbit connection
[08:25] <Fr0Gs> stevejesus pm
[08:25] <wickedpuppy> CORONA, /nick corona
[08:25] <NoUse> wickedpuppy all they'd have to do is update openoffice
[08:26] <wickedpuppy> NoUse, that will be for one or two days ... then ?
[08:26] <DShepherd> does anyone have sound running thru flash/
[08:26] <DShepherd> ?
[08:26] <oskude> i still have an "issue" with this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto, they say its for 9500 and up, but ati website says 8500 and up, are there NOT the same driver ?
[08:26] <corona> wickedpuppy: better
[08:26] <Quarupt> God I hate NFS
[08:26] <wickedpuppy> corona, excellent :P btw you can register ya nick if you havn't ... /msg nickserv help register
[08:26] <NoUse> wickedpuppy I'm just speaking from what I've experienced, maybe its different with ubuntu
[08:26] <Fr0Gs> i lost my origanal sources.list for ubuntu 4.10 can someone send me there origanal one please
[08:26] <wickedpuppy> !sources
[08:26] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:26] <Madpilot> Fr0Gs: 4.10 or 5.10?
[08:26] <corona> wickedpuppy: i have thats why i asked if i should do a /set nick thing
[08:27] <stevejesus> FrOGs:  if you are using 5.10 then you may have mine
[08:27] <Quarupt> Anyone ever done NFS from Ubuntu to FreeBSD?
[08:27] <wickedpuppy> corona, changing nick and registering nick not the same
[08:27] <Fr0Gs> 4.10 Madpilot
[08:27] <foxgamer> Hi all.
[08:28] <stevejesus> FrOGs:  good luck.  thats a little outdated and difficult to find things for
[08:28] <corona> wickedpuppy: i have registered with CORONA
[08:28] <foxgamer> I am wondering. Has anyone managed to get their ATI card working on 64bit ubuntu? I have been going through the forums and with no luck.
[08:28] <NoUse> Fr0Gs something keeping you from upgrading?
[08:28] <Quarupt> Who develops the Linux kernel?
[08:28] <wickedpuppy> Quarupt, a lot
[08:28] <NoUse> Quarupt the better question is who doesn't
[08:28] <Quarupt> is there a site?
[08:28] <oskude> is fglrx = official ati binary driver ?
[08:28] <stevejesus> FrOGs:  there is a sources.list generator in the wiki or somewhere.  it might make you one.  but it is no longer supported
[08:28] <NoUse> Quarupt kernel.org
[08:28] <wickedpuppy> Quarupt, kernel.org ???? i think its obvious
[08:29] <wickedpuppy> corona, i have nothing against caps ... just that it means shouting in irc
[08:30] <corona> wickedpuppy: i agree, just didn't notice that with all the problems i have been facing
[08:30] <DShepherd> ubuntu users... http://www.quake4game.com/ == DO you have sound?
[08:30] <stevejesus> help me please i have a directory issue that im not sure how to resolve
[08:30] <wickedpuppy> DShepherd, yes
[08:30] <oskude> stevejesus, just ask with good explanation
[08:30] <corona> wickedpuppy: i have just rescued a corrupt root with a system rescue disk...its a nightmare
[08:31] <DShepherd> ahh life.....so you used the flash fix for sound?
[08:31] <wickedpuppy> DShepherd, thats one cool flash site ... thanks for the link
[08:31] <stevejesus> i would like to install a second drive into my machine and use it exclusively as my homedir.  i am not sure how to go about this
[08:31] <DShepherd> wickedpuppy: ahh life.....so you used the flash fix for sound?
[08:31] <stevejesus> i already have a perfectly functional machine
[08:31] <wickedpuppy> DShepherd, flash fix ? no
[08:31] <DShepherd> wickedpuppy: no prob, but i need help.....my flash doesnt work..
[08:31] <corona> wickedpuppy: and i think my filesystems corrupt when i do a forced reboot or shutdown because of the crashes i'm having...do you think so?
[08:32] <wickedpuppy> !flash
[08:32] <ubotu> from memory, flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:32] <DShepherd> wickedpuppy: so you have flash plugin for your browswer installed and it just worked?
[08:32] <oskude> well, my next card will be a nvidia, so i dont care :)
[08:32] <wickedpuppy> DShepherd, yes .. just work
[08:32] <NoUse> stevejesus is the HD installed?
[08:32] <wickedpuppy> corona, possible
[08:32] <Sashi> a problem when compling
[08:32] <StevenK> stevejesus: The first step is to physically install the drive. Then you format the drive, mount it as /media/newhome or something, move your current /home there, and then edit /etc/fstab and reboot.
[08:32] <DShepherd> wickedpuppy: I went to that link already.. and that didnt work
[08:32] <Sashi> anyone help
[08:32] <Sashi> gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'as':No such file or directory
[08:32] <stevejesus> no, but after recieve affirmation that i will be able to accomplish this, i will install it and format it
[08:32] <DShepherd> wickedpuppy: i going to try resinstalling the plugin
[08:32] <wickedpuppy> DShepherd, eh ah .. i installed with that instruction ..
[08:33] <wickedpuppy> Sashi, what you typed ?
[08:33] <wickedpuppy> DShepherd, good idea :P
[08:33] <Sashi> make sql
[08:33] <stevejesus> StevenK:  i figured that would be the process, i was just a little scared
[08:33] <Sashi> its fer a game :P
[08:33] <Sashi> a server
[08:33] <Sashi> trying to make the sh's w/e
[08:33] <bony> que onda
[08:34] <bony> algun pinche Mexicano
[08:34] <StevenK> stevejesus: Heh. As long as you are exactly clear what each command does before you run it, you should be okay.
[08:34] <stevejesus> im gonna shutdown and pop the drive in, format, and i shall return.  hopefully...
[08:34] <wickedpuppy> Sashi, you are making no sense .. you want to install sql server ?
[08:34] <DShepherd> wickedpuppy: didnt see to have that plugin installed,....strange....
[08:34] <Sashi> grr
[08:34] <Sashi> no
[08:34] <Sashi> w/e
[08:34] <DShepherd> seem*
[08:35] <stevejesus> StevenK:  I think ill be alright.  seems pretty straightforward
[08:35] <wickedpuppy> Sashi, if you can not explain what you want .. i can't help .. nobody can
[08:35] <wickedpuppy> DShepherd, where did you checked ?
[08:35] <DShepherd> wickedpuppy: you remember doing  sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1 too?
[08:35] <foobar> where is the gnome menu located (to add startup entries)?
[08:35] <wickedpuppy> DShepherd, no such thing
[08:36] <DShepherd> wickedpuppy:  i just did that....and it downloaded some stuff and install itsudo apt-get install libflash-mozplugin
[08:36] <wickedpuppy> DShepherd, billy@wicked1:~$ /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[08:36] <wickedpuppy> thats what i got
[08:36] <Quarupt> Anyone know a good place to start learning how to shell script?
[08:36] <wickedpuppy> Quarupt, #bash
[08:36] <oskude> Quarupt, sec, i had a good one
[08:36] <wickedpuppy> and google
[08:36] <Quarupt> k
[08:36] <corona> wickedpuppy: thank you see you later
[08:36] <Quarupt> i have googled it
[08:36] <wickedpuppy> corona, see ya later dude
[08:37] <Quarupt> stfw
[08:37] <Quarupt> rtfm
[08:37] <asdfasdf> i have already a CD of hoary, how to upgrade my warthy to hoary >? without using Apt-something... ?
[08:37] <NoUse> Quarupt http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/unix/bash-tute.html
[08:37] <Quarupt> ya have to use apt
[08:37] <Quarupt> or a front end
[08:38] <rixth> Does anyone bother to see whether they have been hit by Linux/lupper.worm?
[08:38] <oskude> Quarupt, http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[08:38] <NoUse> asdfasdf you can add the CD as a repo in synaptic
[08:38] <asdfasdf> no, i have already a Hoary CD....
[08:38] <NoUse> asdfasdf I know, you add the CD as a repository in synaptic
[08:39] <asdfasdf> thats it ?
[08:39] <Quarupt> thx NoUse Thats good shit
[08:39] <asdfasdf> have to replace sources.list ?
[08:39] <NoUse> Quarupt found it via google
[08:39] <NoUse> asdfasdf https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes
[08:40] <asdfasdf> okay :)
[08:40] <Quarupt> asdfasdf, Ya ya have a warty cd, that doesnt have any Breezy or Hoary source ya have to use apt to dist upgrade from warty to hoary then hoary to breezy
[08:40] <asdfasdf> no, Warthy is already installed in my machine, just want to upgrade it to Hoary.... without internet connection
[08:40] <asdfasdf> i have the Hoary CD
[08:41] <Quarupt> oh
[08:41] <Quarupt> then just set the sources to use the CD and do apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:41] <NoUse> asdfasdf just follow the instrucions on the link I sent you and you'll be fine
[08:42] <asdfasdf> is it possible to apt-someting w/out internet connection ?
[08:42] <foxgamer> Has anyone managed to get their ATI card working on 64bit ubuntu? I have been going through the forums trying all of the suggestions, but no luck yet.
[08:42] <NoUse> asdfasdf only if its on the CD you have
[08:42] <DR_K13> samn here fox
[08:42] <asdfasdf> i thought apt only works on a internet connected machine
[08:42] <Quarupt> asdfasdf, yes its possible, as long as ya have all the sources on the CD
[08:42] <DR_K13> same*] 
[08:43] <foxgamer> DR_K13: So you are having no luck either? I don't want to have to go back to 32bit :(
[08:43] <asdfasdf> Quarupt, i have an Hoary installer CD, is the sources of this CD compelete ?
[08:43] <Quarupt> Just put the cd in your sources.list and do a dist-upgrade
[08:43] <Quarupt> Yes
[08:44] <DR_K13> ya good luck.  i went back to 32bit
[08:44] <Quarupt> Apt will get the source from where ever you specify in the sources.list
[08:44] <NoUse> asdfasdf have you looked at the link I sent you?
[08:44] <asdfasdf> ah ic...
[08:44] <asdfasdf> NoUse,yes....
[08:44] <NoUse> asdfasdf it says exactly what you need to do
[08:44] <asdfasdf> just need clarification regarding Apt
[08:45] <NoUse> asdfasdf ok
[08:45] <asdfasdf> i thought it only works on a internet connected pP
[08:45] <asdfasdf> *pc
[08:45] <Quarupt> apt will work offline, long as ya set the sources
[08:45] <DShepherd> how do you force all the subfolders and files to adopt the permission on that root folder
[08:45] <Quarupt> to a local source
[08:45] <DShepherd> with chown
[08:45] <DShepherd> ?
[08:45] <Quarupt> chown 777
[08:45] <Quarupt> :)
[08:46] <DShepherd> chown -R?
[08:46] <DR_K13> 777
[08:46] <DShepherd> yeah thats it
[08:46] <Quarupt> Recursive
[08:46] <wickedpuppy> chown = change ownership ... chmod = change mode
[08:46] <Quarupt> ya want recursive
[08:46] <Quarupt> so if its Chown 777 on that folder and anything in it, do chown 777 -R
[08:47] <wickedpuppy> so if you guys want a username 777 to own the files ... pls go ahead
[08:47] <Quarupt> oops 4got the dir
[08:47] <Quarupt> ya know what I mean
[08:47] <DShepherd> thanks, Quarupt, wickedpuppy and DR_K13t that''s helpful too
[08:47] <Quarupt> oh wait
[08:47] <Quarupt> chmod
[08:47] <Quarupt> lol
[08:47] <Quarupt> Im drunk
[08:48] <DR_K13> wheres your head at, wheres your head at,at,at,at,at,at, at
[08:48] <Quarupt> if yur in Nautilus just right click folder and you can set it recursively to anything ya want, just run Nautilus as root
[08:48] <DShepherd> wickedpuppy: I understand...;)...
[08:48] <B_166-ER-X> Linux + alcool = Bad
[08:49] <liable> bah
[08:49] <Quarupt> Thats how I do perms when im in X
[08:49] <Quarupt> if im in ssh, i need to be sober
[08:49] <Quarupt> unless I wanna tunnel X, but thats a whole different story
[08:50] <Quarupt> Who took my Cocoa puffs!
[08:50] <Quarupt_> brb
[08:51] <MrFarts> i propose that the default background theme be called "Fecal Brown" instead of "Human"
[08:52] <wickedpuppy> MrFarts, pls feel free to propose at mailing list ..
[08:53] <MrFarts> wickedpuppy, if i did that i'd propose that they eliminate that whole schme
[08:53] <MrFarts> wickedpuppy, it's hideous
[08:53] <MrFarts> people use blue because it's easy on the eyes
[08:53] <LathropWells> Have you guys seen this recipe for SSH FS   using fuse?      http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/427509
[08:53] <wickedpuppy> MrFarts, you can propose anything ...
[08:53] <wickedpuppy> its public mailing list after all
[08:53] <MrFarts> apparently they are anti-blue because everyone else uses blue
[08:54] <stevejesus> oh boy i really screwed it up
[08:54] <MrFarts> of course everyone else uses blue, because it looks nice :)
[08:54] <Melissa83> http://home.no.net/tms2k/stuff/not-31337.jpg
[08:54] <stevejesus> StevenK:  guess who just screwed it all up...
[08:54] <Melissa83> http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktop37vp.png
[08:55] <stevejesus> StevenK:  the computer is still usable but...  i have to run from failsafe, with no configs and run multiple x sessions to accomplish anything
[08:56] <isai> hii
[08:56] <LathropWells> Hi
[08:56] <Quarupt_> thats a windows BG
[08:57] <isai> how do I uninstall firefox without all the dependencies?
[08:57] <stevejesus> so i just tried to install a new disk and use that solely as my homedir, now i have destroyed everything.  can anyone help?
[08:57] <LathropWells> Quarupt - did you see the link i posted for you?
[08:57] <nalioth> isai: leave it, you'll make your ubuntu-desktop crazy otw
[08:58] <Quarupt> LathropWells, for what, and no i didnt
[08:58] <LathropWells> http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/427509 SSH FS Tech recipe using FUSE
[08:58] <isai> what if I want to use firefox cvs or an RC build from mozilla.org ?
[08:58] <stevejesus> i have lost my homedir.  i need help please
[08:59] <isai> stevejesus: what do you mean you lost it? the desktop icon or the actuall dir?
[08:59] <Quarupt> LathropWells, uhhh its a page on SHH, why do i want that?
[09:00] <stevejesus> isai:  wel i just installed a second disk, and was attempting to use it solely as my home dir.  now i cant find it.
[09:00] <stevejesus> isai:  now my homedir only contains lost&found
[09:00] <LathropWells> Quarupt - lol nvm - i must of missed the first part of what you had said. - pardon me.
[09:01] <stevejesus> isai:  any suggestions?
[09:01] <stevejesus> mustard5:  whats up man
[09:01] <isai> stevejesus: so your home dir on /dev/hdb only has lost&found?
[09:01] <mustard5> yo...I'm picking ubotu's brains in private message ;)
[09:02] <locomorto> !gay
[09:02] <Quarupt> ?
[09:02] <isai> stevejesus: try $ echo $HOME and see what it tells you...
[09:03] <Quarupt> just do homeon /dev/hda1
[09:03] <stevejesus> isai: ok
[09:06] <Quarupt> this guy told me that rm -rf /   would make it so I can play window games, but now my comp wont work??
[09:06] <nalioth> Quarupt: try again, bubba
[09:06] <isai> Quarupt: stop trolling.
[09:06] <LathropWells> Quarupt - give me a sec and i will try it for you on my machine hang on....
[09:07] <Quarupt> NO
[09:07] <LathropWells> lol
[09:07] <Quarupt> Dude I was kidding
[09:07] <Quarupt> lol
[09:07] <mustard5> :)
[09:07] <isai> :<
[09:07] <Quarupt> Jut tryin to wake up some people thats all
[09:07] <isai> :)
[09:07] <nalioth> Quarupt: please dont choose that string any more
[09:07] <Quarupt> huh
[09:08] <michel> jey
[09:08] <isai> michel: hey
[09:08] <michel> m this my first tume on ubuntu:P
[09:08] <Quarupt> don't "choose" it or dont quote it in here?
[09:08] <Noah0504> I'm trying to install CrossOver 5.0.  I have a file called install.sh, how do I run it?
[09:08] <nalioth> Quarupt: dont put it in this channel please
[09:08] <Madpilot> michel: Welcome to the Light Side, then ;)
[09:08] <Quarupt> \k
[09:08] <LathropWells> My wife wants to use Scrabble with Cedega. - it needs 256 color mode. - does anyone know where to adjust/edit that setting?
[09:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Noah0504 about cli
[09:09] <michel> haha:p first i had suse :P
[09:09] <Noah0504> Thanks.
[09:09] <Quarupt> what if someone asks how do i recursively delete everything in my root?
[09:09] <Quarupt> you paid for Cedega just to use scrable?
[09:09] <LathropWells> Quarupt - Do you like them or wish them pain and torment?
[09:10] <rixth> Hey guys- I need some sort of webserver manager. Like cPanel but free. Does anyone know of anything?
[09:10] <DShepherd> what does the  iB mean ... I get it when i use aptitude search packagname?
[09:10] <isai> rixth: less -f /var/log/apache2/access
[09:10] <nalioth> rixth: webmin
[09:10] <Quarupt> use webmin baby
[09:10] <isai> sorry, I meant tail :)
[09:11] <rixth> nalioth, ick! I don't like that much
[09:11] <Quarupt> it even has a hit counter!
[09:11] <isai> late night...
[09:11] <LathropWells> Quarupt - if my wife uses Ubuntu i spend fewer hours every month removing spyware and reinstalling windows. - Cedega is inexpensive by that measure.
[09:11] <Quarupt> true
[09:12] <Quarupt> but there dxwine and its free LathropWells
[09:12] <DShepherd> what does the  iB mean ... I get it when i use aptitude search packagname?
[09:12] <isai> scrabble needs that accelerate GLX stuff :)
[09:12] <LathropWells> Quarupt - true enough - the money is well spent still.
[09:12] <Quarupt> Yea
[09:12] <Quarupt> But my WoW subscription is allready killing me
[09:13] <LathropWells> Qaurupt - If i had a WOW subscription a sony CD for a windows cheat sounds interesting.
[09:14] <Quarupt> sony CD cheat for Windows, whats that LathropWells ?>
[09:14] <LathropWells> lol - headed into off-topic - sorry about that nalioth.
[09:14] <defcon8> fuck wow
[09:14] <gigcs> i have question?
[09:15] <defcon8> it is for people who are silly enough to not be able to play dnd
[09:15] <gigcs> remaster ubuntu distro
[09:15] <Quarupt> defcon8, ?
[09:15] <LathropWells> gigcs - ask it we are all here to help.
[09:15] <nalioth> defcon8: language please
[09:15] <Quarupt> People who dont play DnD are silly?
[09:15] <defcon8> pardon me nalioth
[09:15] <michel> is there a program for ubuntu/lile msn messenger
[09:15] <defcon8> Quarupt, naah people who play WoW are silly for not playing dnd
[09:16] <isai> gaim
[09:16] <nalioth> michel: gaim,
[09:16] <Quarupt> DnD is a table top, we are talking about MMORPG's here
[09:16] <defcon8> michel, lile?
[09:16] <defcon8> Quarupt, i am talkign about rpgs in general
[09:16] <nalioth> dnd WoW and all that can be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:16] <LathropWells> defcon - gaim is best and gyach has a voice app for yahoo chat.
[09:16] <britishseapower> how come i cant get sound working right...can someone help me ?
[09:16] <gigcs> i create gpg key own but. i try recomplie ubutnu-keyring.not pass
[09:16] <Quarupt> wtf is #ubuntu-unregged  ?
[09:17] <britishseapower> i got system sounds ok...and mp3s sometimes play...bit iffy though
[09:17] <defcon8> LathropWells, didnt know that
[09:17] <nalioth> Quarupt: a channel to chat in #ubuntu is for ubuntu help
[09:17] <defcon8> britishseapower, very decriptive of you
[09:17] <defcon8> descriptive
[09:17] <Quarupt> nalioth, that doesnt make sense?
[09:17] <gigcs> i want add package into  cd .
[09:17] <britishseapower> defcon8: ok lemme try again
[09:18] <defcon8> dont, the minute i wake up my grand parents make me go and get the bread and newspaper :(
[09:18] <Quarupt> ?
[09:18] <nalioth> Quarupt: #ubuntu is for help with ubuntu, not discussing the time of day in a fleas eye or mmporgs or anthing not ubuntu help related
[09:18] <Madpilot> nalioth: he asked about -unregged, not -offtopic...
[09:18] <Quarupt> nalioth, how does that answer my question of what #Ubuntu-unregged is?
[09:19] <britishseapower> totem says "There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins"
[09:19] <britishseapower> i have installed the w32 codec pack as per wiki
[09:19] <nalioth> unregged is a secret
[09:19] <DShepherd> wickedpuppy: still no sound
[09:19] <DShepherd> :(
[09:20] <wickedpuppy> DShepherd, eh ah ... no sound in flash or no sound ?
[09:20] <Quarupt> LathropWells, Join me in -offtopic or answer PM plz
[09:20] <DShepherd> wickedpuppy: in flash
[09:20] <nalioth> Quarupt: -unregged is a spambot tagging channel
[09:20] <LathropWells> Quarupt - okay
[09:20] <Quarupt> if its a secret why is it in the Topic?
[09:20] <stevejesus> my machine is now unusable
[09:20] <wickedpuppy> DShepherd, then in amarok or xmms ?
[09:20] <nalioth> Quarupt: what topic?
[09:21] <Quarupt> The channel topic
[09:21] <DShepherd> wickedpuppy: yes
[09:21] <stevejesus> is there some way to boot ubuntu and look at things when the machine has become unusable?
[09:21] <Quarupt> Knoppix then chroot
[09:21] <totaka> exit
[09:21] <nalioth> stevejesus: livecd
[09:21] <stevejesus> great...
[09:22] <wickedpuppy> DShepherd, then i am out of ideas .. sorry
[09:22] <stevejesus> there isnt an easier way?  there are no utilutes from the install cd?
[09:22] <DShepherd> wickedpuppy: me too :(
[09:22] <Quarupt> whats hard about Knoppic, the chroot?
[09:22] <mustard5> stevejesus, what happened to it?
[09:22] <Quarupt> Knoppix
[09:22] <stevejesus> mustard5:  youll laugh but i really screwed it iup
[09:23] <kvidell> s/s 3
[09:23] <nalioth> gigcs: stay out of #ubuntu-unregged please
[09:23] <nalioth> stevejesus: use the ubuntu livecd
[09:24] <stevejesus> mustard5:  i installed a second disk to use as my homedir...  but i think i went about it all wrong.  there is no homedir with proper permissions.  i can no longer login.
[09:24] <mustard5> stevejesus, I can only imagine :)
[09:24] <gigcs> not ubntu livecd.
[09:24] <gigcs> but ubuntu install.
[09:24] <gigcs> and i want add package on cd.
[09:24] <gigcs> HowTo.
[09:24] <nalioth> gigcs: nobody in here knows, please go ask uncle google
[09:24] <DShepherd> does sound flash work in anybodies...epiphany browser? http://www.quake4game.com/
[09:25] <DShepherd> flash sound*
[09:25] <stevejesus> mustard5:  if i have to use a live cd thats fine.  i will prolly try and find a smaller livecd distro so that i dont have to waste time dl'ing
[09:25] <nalioth> DShepherd: it should, if you're running an x86 arch
[09:25] <mustard5> stevejesus, so recovery mode doesnt drop you into a root prompt I take it?
[09:25] <stevejesus> mustard5:  what i am really concerned about is where my files went!!!
[09:25] <bluefrog-10> gigcs, http://wiki.edubuntu.org/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo
[09:25] <DShepherd> nalioth ok :(
[09:25] <nalioth> stevejesus: the smaller livecds dont have the tools
[09:25] <britishseapower> totem says "There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins"
[09:25] <britishseapower> why is this ?
[09:25] <stevejesus> mustard5:  how do i get to recovery mode?  i dont see an option for it on the cd
[09:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell britishseapower about multimedia
[09:26] <mustard5> stevejesus, not knowing how you went about it its hard to tell
[09:26] <stevejesus> naloith:  i just need to be able to mount the drives lol.
[09:26] <mustard5> stevejesus, its in the grub menu usually when you boot up
[09:26] <nalioth> stevejesus: then get dsl
[09:26] <stevejesus> naloith:  i mean do i really need the whole silly gnome live stuff?
[09:26] <britishseapower> nalioth: i have installed the w32 codec pack as per wiki
[09:26] <stevejesus> naloith:  i have cable nalioth
[09:27] <nalioth> britishseapower: the later microsoft media wont play no matter what
[09:27] <stevejesus> naloith:  i couldnt imagine updating over dialup.
[09:27] <nalioth> stevejesus: then use prozilla and d/l a ubuntu livecd in >20min
[09:27] <mustard5> stevejesus, I'm on dialup :)
[09:27] <stevejesus> mastard5:  thanks ill check it out
[09:27] <britishseapower> nalioth: these are bog standard mps3.
[09:28] <britishseapower> nalioth: something is up i think...annoying as i just installed ubuntu and i really like it !
[09:28] <nalioth> britishseapower: have you installed gstreamer0.8-mad?
[09:28] <britishseapower> nalioth: looking forward to getting stuck in.
[09:28] <stevejesus> mastard5:  naolith thank you but i dont need all that crap to just login as root lol
[09:28] <stevejesus> whoops
[09:28] <stevejesus> wrong person
[09:28] <britishseapower> nalioth: oh ? dont think so...lemme try...how do i do that ?
[09:28] <britishseapower> in apps/add ?
[09:28] <britishseapower> or from command line ?
[09:29] <nalioth> britishseapower: you should read the multimedia page info ubotu sent you
[09:29] <gigcs> Thank you. I have document InstallCDCustomizationHowTo .But I doubt ubuntu-keyring.
[09:29] <britishseapower> k
[09:29] <stevejesus> mustard5:  here is the silly thing that i did.  i formatted the drive with ubuntu's (gnome's?)  partitioner and made the access point /home
[09:29] <britishseapower> ta
[09:29] <britishseapower> i dint see it?
[09:30] <stevejesus> mustard5:  as soon as the desktop refreshed, it was clear that my current homedir no longer existed.
[09:30] <gigcs> because i try make document wiki .
[09:30] <MrFarts> anyone here running the version of firefox that comes stock with ubuntu ?
[09:30] <gigcs> I add package and test install.But i see error apt step fail .
[09:31] <stevejesus> mustard5:  ive got an idea.  i think i c an fix this
[09:31] <mustard5> stevejesus, ah ok interesting...
[09:31] <nalioth> britishseapower: do you have universe and multiverse repos enabled?
[09:31] <mustard5> stevejesus, whats the idea?
[09:32] <gigcs> doubt gpg sign ubntu-keyring.How To
[09:33] <stevejesus> mustard5:  well, i suppose that my /home/stevejesus was only showing "lost$found" becuase it was already the new disk.  tahts why i could see my old one!  so im booting into recovery mode to edit my /etc/fstab.  becuase surely the files arent gone. then everything should work.  after that, i should consider doing this correctly. lol
[09:34] <stevejesus> *couldnt* see my old one
[09:35] <britishseapower> nalioth: tis ok...back on track...
[09:35] <DShepherd> OK i'm having no luck with getting sound in flash
[09:35] <DShepherd> help
[09:35] <MrFarts> anyone here running firefox under ubuntu ?
[09:35] <britishseapower> thanks...following instructions...seeems like a right pallava to play a few mp3s?
[09:35] <DShepherd> MrFarts: yes
[09:35] <DShepherd> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
[09:35] <michel> how can i listen to streaming audio?
[09:35] <DShepherd> neva mind
[09:35] <DShepherd> sound is here :)
[09:35] <MrFarts> DShepherd, can you use the quit option ?
[09:35] <MrFarts> :)
[09:36] <stevejesus> rebooting and crossing fingers
[09:36] <MrFarts> DShepherd, quit doesn't work for me
[09:36] <londonboi2k3> Hi ppl's, Now I dont want anyone to laugh at me, but I have a small problem, I have Windows Spyware installed on my computer, I have Crossover Office, install, and I acedentliy click on an exe file and it installed this rubbish, any ideas how I can get rid of it?
[09:36] <DShepherd> MrFarts: yes it works fine for me
[09:36] <michel> how can i listen to straming audio???
[09:36] <MrFarts> DShepherd, weird
[09:37] <michel> ???c can someone help or not?
[09:37] <londonboi2k3> michel, Streamcast?
[09:37] <michel> how?
[09:37] <zack_> there is absolutely no way to run Photoshop on ubuntu is there ?
[09:37] <MrFarts> open("/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/chrome/icons/default/commonDialog.xpm", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[09:37] <MrFarts> DShepherd, this is the strace output when i try to exit
[09:37] <HappyFool> londonboi2k3: maybe ask in #winehq ?
[09:37] <zack_> beisdes WINE
[09:37] <nalioth> londonboi2k3: install clamav and scan your dirs
[09:38] <MrFarts> any idea what commonDialog.xpm is ?
[09:38] <stevejesus> michel:  what kind of streaming audio are you trying to listen to michel?
[09:38] <mustard5> stevejesus, sounds feasible :)
[09:38] <michel> @ stevejesus ehm music
[09:38] <DShepherd> MrFarts: no clue...how long have you had the problem?
[09:38] <MrFarts> DShepherd, as long as i've had ubunty
[09:38] <MrFarts> which is about 1 hour
[09:38] <stevejesus> michel:  heh?
[09:38] <zack_> anyone here run Wine?
[09:38] <spling> hello
[09:38] <stevejesus> mustard5:  its back!
[09:39] <michel> i want to listen a internet radio
[09:39] <DShepherd> MrFarts: weird...have you tried reisntalling...
[09:39] <DShepherd> ?
[09:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell michel about multimedia
[09:39] <MrFarts> DShepherd, i'm not going to re-install over a silly firefox problem
[09:39] <stevejesus> michel:  all you need is working audio.  do you have that?  if so try an app that will play the feeds.  i recomend amarok.
[09:40] <corona> i often get this message while launchinh apps from shell: Qt:Locales not supported on Xserver any idea why?
[09:40] <spling> I just tried a live boot of ubuntu, but it failed
[09:40] <DShepherd> MrFarts: ok.....i meant,,,reinstall firefox
[09:40] <stevejesus> michel:  grab the url for the radio station and put it in your amarok playlist
[09:40] <MrFarts> DShepherd, how can i do that ?
[09:40] <nalioth> corona: it happens to all of us, it can be ignored
[09:40] <spling> it said something about disconnecting from IRQ, and a bad controller
[09:40] <stevejesus> michel:  you can apt-get amarok.  if you need to know how to use amarok once its installed i can help you
[09:40] <mustard5> stevejesus, sounds good :)
[09:41] <corona> nalioth: ok
[09:41] <MrFarts> DShepherd, can you tell me if you have this file btw
[09:41] <DShepherd> MrFarts: sudo aptitude reinstall firefox
[09:41] <MrFarts> DShepherd, do you have the file: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/chrome/icons/default/commonDialog.xpm
[09:41] <stevejesus> mustard5:  now that i have everything working, you wouldnt happen to know how to move your homedir to a different disk and use it do you?
[09:42] <DShepherd> MrFarts: nope
[09:42] <DShepherd> MrFarts: default.xpm
[09:42] <MrFarts> DShepherd, what is the difference between aptitude and apt-get ?
[09:42] <stevejesus> man nano really saved the day on that one whew!
[09:42] <DShepherd> not much...you can replace apt-get with aptitude
[09:42] <nalioth> MrFarts: aptitude is a feature enriched console frontend to apt-get
[09:42] <DSL3> is there a way to save all of the options that are in my menuconfig for my kernel into a text file ?
[09:43] <DShepherd> show work
[09:43] <mustard5> stevejesus, I would create a mountpoint in /mnt with mkdir, mount the drive and cp the files and directories over from /home..
[09:43] <MrFarts> DShepherd, why do they both exist then ? :)
[09:43] <stevejesus> if i want to use a diferent homedir do i just need to set a different $HOME enviroment variable?
[09:43] <DShepherd> MrFarts: yeah..what nailoth siad
[09:43] <kestas> use chsh to make a permeanent home dir changbe
[09:43] <DShepherd> MrFarts: cause...Linux is alll about options :)
[09:44] <KaoticEvil> how can i check what transfer mode my cdrom is using?
[09:44] <stevejesus> mustard5:  i wish it weere that simple
[09:44] <HappyFool> stevejesus: what i'd do is create a new ext3 (or whatever) partition, copy /home across and mount /home at that new partition
[09:44] <MrFarts> DShepherd, one way to wipe your a** is generally enough
[09:44] <switchcat> :(  my ubuntu keeps screwing up at different parts during the install. :(  I've seemingly made a few coasters already before I go and download the ISO again, can anybody make any suggestions on writing the ISO (right now using a winXP system) or figuring out if it's soething else wrong with the ubuntu install process?
[09:44] <rixth> How do I backup an entire MySQL database from the commandline?
[09:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell switchcat about verify
[09:44] <DShepherd> MrFarts: maybe for you....but others maybe want 3 different ways to wipe there...
[09:44] <DShepherd> thier*
[09:44] <nalioth> switchcat: check your md5 sums on the iso image
[09:44] <kestas> switchcat, might be helpful to say where it screws up
[09:44] <mustard5> stevejesus, well I think the only mistake you made last time was not having your files from /home on the drive already
[09:45] <HappyFool> MrFarts: apt-get is older, and still has some features (e.g., build-dep) which aptitude does not have. However, aptitude has some superior features, like removing unused packages, which apt-get does not have
[09:45] <kestas> isnt aptitude a front end to apt-get
[09:45] <dle> Does anyone know anythin re authentication failures from apt-get, Breezy?
[09:45] <MrFarts> DShepherd, works now, although it's a bit disconcerting ...
[09:45] <marlun> In windows I can have a resolution up to 1280x1024, how come I can't in ubuntu?
[09:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dle about gpgerr
[09:45] <nalioth> marlun: you can
[09:45] <switchcat> kestas - uhm in 'retrieving' different packages and stuff, on my first coaster it was at varying places, so I thought it might be dirt, on my second one, it's the kernel..
[09:46] <marlun> nalioth, how?
[09:46] <kestas> marlun, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file where it lists the resolutions
[09:46] <dle> nalioth: Many thanks! :)
[09:46] <MrFarts> HappyFool, i see, thanks
[09:46] <DShepherd> MrFarts: ok...glad I could help
[09:46] <stevejesus> mustard5:  true.  also i didnt set the permissions properly.
[09:46] <kestas> switchcat, well buy quality CD-Rs, check the md5 of the ISO, and burn at a low speed, 2x or 4x
[09:47] <mustard5> marlun, backup your xorg.conf before changing ;)
[09:47] <nalioth> marlun: open a console and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg         and choose the rez you want (deselect the ones you dont)
[09:47] <mustard5> stevejesus, ah ok...
[09:47] <glick> yo
[09:47] <switchcat> yeah right now it keeps wanting to use Sonic record now! and I can't find where it is supposed to let me change the burn speed... :(
[09:47] <glick> excuse me i have a question
[09:47] <glick> whas the first preemptive linux kernel
[09:47] <mustard5> stevejesus, what permissions does it need?
[09:47] <glick> ?
[09:47] <MrFarts> glick, what does that mean ?
[09:48] <marlun> is there a way I should backup a file (so it gets that ~) or should I just use cp?
[09:48] <mustard5> stevejesus, I'm probably not any better at this than you :)
[09:48] <HappyFool> glick: i think you might want a more technical channel ;)
[09:48] <stevejesus> mustard5:  well its good to have a buddy here im on equal ground with: )
[09:48] <KaoticEvil> how can i check what transfer mode my cdrom is using? (PIO or UDMA)
[09:48] <mustard5> stevejesus, hehehe yeah
[09:48] <MrFarts> KaoticEvil, hdparm ?
[09:49] <glick> MrFarts, a preemtive kernel is that after a certian time slice the kernel interrupts the current program and runs the schedular that decides what program to run next
[09:49] <kestas> marlun, try `sudo sed -ibak -e 's/"1024x768"/"1280x1024" "1024x768"/'`
[09:49] <KaoticEvil> MrFarts: doesnt give me transfer mode
[09:49] <HappyFool> KaoticEvil: 'sudo hdparm -d /dev/<your dvd device here>'
[09:49] <nalioth> marlun: gedit provides the ~filenames
[09:49] <MrFarts> glick, umm, linux has always been preemptive
[09:49] <KaoticEvil> ah, i didnt hve the -d.. ty
[09:49] <glick> in a non-preemtive kernel the program decides when it gives up the cp
[09:49] <glick> cpyu
[09:49] <glick> cpu
[09:50] <DShepherd> nalioth i got sound to work flash in firefox, but not epiphany browser,, I went using the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Any suggestions on what i need to do to get it runniing on epiphany?
[09:50] <kestas> sudo sed -ibak -e 's/"1024x768"/"1280x1024" "1024x768"/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:50] <glick> MrFarts, i dont think so
[09:50] <MrFarts> glick, i'll bet anything on it
[09:50] <HappyFool> glick: linux userspace is preempted; for hard real-time you'll need a patched kernel (RTAI or RTlinux)
[09:50] <MrFarts> glick, i bet you're confused about something
[09:50] <KaoticEvil> ok.. now how would i go about setting it to use UDMA?
[09:50] <MrFarts> there is no such thing as non-preemptive linux
[09:50] <glick> yeah im playing with embedded linux for some hardware im developing
[09:50] <MrFarts> perhaps you are think about the kernel itself being preemptive
[09:50] <MrFarts> thinling
[09:50] <nalioth> DShepherd: did you put your flash plugin in ~/.mozilla/plugins or /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/  ?
[09:50] <britishseapower> thanks for help! working now :-).
[09:50] <MrFarts> glick, there are version of linux in which the kernel may be, to varying degrees preempted
[09:50] <britishseapower> ubuntu looks lovely on my LCD
[09:50] <glick> MrFarts, linux wasnt always preemtive
[09:50] <HappyFool> KaoticEvil: 'sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/<blah>'
[09:51] <mustard5> stevejesus, so is it ext3 on that drive now?
[09:51] <kestas> britishseapower, doesnt it though
[09:51] <MrFarts> glick, please stop trolling
[09:51] <HappyFool> KaoticEvil: read 'man hdparm' for much more
[09:51] <glick> MrFarts, im not trolling
[09:51] <MrFarts> glick, linux has been a preemptive system since the very earliest release
[09:51] <KaoticEvil> HappyFool: thanks :)
[09:51] <MrFarts> it's preemptive by design
[09:51] <stevejesus> mustard5:  yessir
[09:51] <DShepherd> nalioth libflash-mozplugin.so yes
[09:51] <glick> MrFarts, no i thnk preemtion wasnt a feature till the 2.2 release
[09:52] <MrFarts> glick, ok, you're retarded
[09:52] <marlun> nalioth, argh, tested what you said first and now I'm supposed to fill in stuff I don't know :P
[09:52] <DShepherd> nalioth yes libflashplayer.so
[09:52] <mustard5> stevejesus, so what is your plan? :)
[09:52] <MrFarts> glick,  as i said, there is a difference between preempting the kernel and preempting an application
[09:52] <nalioth> DShepherd: in your mozilla dir, not firefox dirs?
[09:52] <MrFarts> glick, this is probably what you are confused about since you are talking about embedded systems
[09:52] <nalioth> marlun: if you dont know, click through
[09:52] <glick> MrFarts, i got jesus on my side so you better be carefull or he will strike you with lighening!
[09:53] <mustard5> MrFarts, and glick try #ubuntu-offtopic for your discussion
[09:53] <nalioth> marlun: when you get the part about resolutions to use, the spacebar selects and deselects
[09:53] <glick> MrFarts, maybe
[09:53] <DShepherd> nalioth /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. that's where i am
[09:53] <glick> MrFarts, i am slightly drunk
[09:53] <glick> lol
[09:53] <marlun> nalioth, I have to find out how much memory my video card has ;P
[09:54] <zack_> anyone run Gimpshop?  or know if i can apt-get it?
[09:54] <stevejesus> well, i suppose ill "attempt" to properly change permissions on the directory (drive).  and then edit my /etc/fstab/
[09:54] <nalioth> DShepherd: then epiphany should be using them
[09:54] <mustard5> stevejesus, have you got the drive mounted on a different mount point?
[09:54] <nalioth> marlun: just click through
[09:55] <marlun> nalioth, but theres no default value?
[09:55] <DShepherd> it doesnt seem to be....well it runs the video part of the flash....but not the sound part
[09:55] <britishseapower> ok...now i've got ubuntu up and running...some cool things to do with it ?
[09:55] <kestas> marlun try sudo sed -ibak -e 's/"1024x768"/"1280x1024" "1024x768"/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:55] <nalioth> marlun: if you dont know what video ram your card has . . . .
[09:55] <kestas> marlun, this 1 liner should do the trick
[09:55] <gigcs> question apt step fail .
[09:55] <nalioth> kestas: he doesnt want any of those
[09:55] <HappyFool> britishseapower: what are your interests?
[09:55] <mustard5> stevejesus, ie make a directory in /mnt call it some random name and mount the drive on that directory?
[09:55] <kestas> nalioth, what do you mean?
[09:55] <stevejesus> well, its not currently moutned.  what i did before was add it to etc/fstab with mount-point /home  but it didnt have the proper permissions.
[09:56] <marlun> kestas, have to get through this first :P
[09:56] <DShepherd> nalioth it doesnt seem to be....well it runs the video part of the flash....but not the sound part
[09:56] <kestas> he wants to get more res, if he's using the right drivers then that line should do it
[09:56] <roshan> is there a good howto on adding swsusp2 functionality?
[09:56] <DShepherd> nalioth. it only worked for firefox when I did this... A different try: create ~/.mozilla/firefox/rc with the line FIREFOX_DSP="none".
[09:56] <britishseapower> HappyFool: music, multimedia, dtp...
[09:56] <stevejesus> mustard5: well, i dont want to put it in moutn.  i want the mount point to be /home.  i believe is HAS to be that way in order to work anyhow
[09:56] <nalioth> DShepherd: ah! that's another problem, that i havent seen a solution to
[09:57] <kestas> DShepherd, have you linked that esd.so file to the right one?
[09:57] <HappyFool> britishseapower: for dtp (desktop publishing, i presume), try Scribus
[09:57] <stevejesus> mustard5:  so first order of business is to backup my /home
[09:57] <britishseapower> HappyFool: internet...bla bla...its nice...i have a gentoo samba server have setup a few shortcuts to ssh into that box and nautilus to get at the media...seems to work fine.
[09:57] <mustard5> stevejesus, eventually yes, but to transfer your $HOME over you will need to mount it on a different point first
[09:57] <britishseapower> HappyFool: ok...ta
[09:57] <BlueEagle> stevejesus: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[09:57] <BlueEagle> stevejesus: add the mount point
[09:57] <stevejesus> mustard5:  ah yes.. thank you.  ill do that noe.  that will make it easier.  doh.  shoulda thought of that
[09:57] <DShepherd> kestas: the sound works in firefox...just not epiphany. SO i would believe I did
[09:57] <BlueEagle> stevejesus: sudo mount /home
[09:57] <HappyFool> britishseapower: not sure about music; maybe audacity ? If you'd like to play with 3D animation, try blender
[09:57] <marlun> rebooting
[09:58] <stevejesus> BlueEagle:  we are past that.
[09:58] <mustard5> stevejesus, if you join #kubuntu-offtopic we can talk about it in a quieter channel :)
[09:58] <nalioth> DShepherd: off topic. why are you using epiphany and not galeon?
[09:58] <DShepherd> but it only worked when I added FIREFOX_DSP=none to the rc file
[09:58] <stevejesus> BlueEagle:  but i do need to change the permissions can you help me with that?
[09:58] <BlueEagle> stevejesus: permission of what?
[09:58] <DShepherd> nalioth cause...cause......I dont know...options :)
[09:58] <CarinArr> britishseapower, you can get some adobe and macromedia applications running using cxoffice as well
[09:58] <stevejesus> BlueEagle:  permissions of the... wait... haha.  never mind
[09:59] <nalioth> DShepherd: galeon (imho) is a better gecko client than epiphany
[09:59] <DShepherd> kestas: but it only worked when I added FIREFOX_DSP=none to the rc file
[09:59] <kestas> DShepherd, well if it works then nm
[09:59] <britishseapower> thanks...will have a play... v inpressive install...
[09:59] <britishseapower> v easy compared to gentoo
[09:59] <mustard5> stevejesus, join #kubuntu-offtopc
[09:59] <DShepherd> nalioth ok. but... i think galeon will have the same problem as epiphany
[09:59] <stevejesus> mustard5:  k, jus a sec
[10:00] <michel> how to play dvd?
[10:00] <mustard5> stevejesus, k it's quieter in there ;)
[10:00] <HappyFool> i suspect gentoo and ubuntu are aimed at quite different sets of users ;)
[10:00] <stevejesus> mustard5:  how do i do that.  im not to familiar with irc.
[10:00] <Daemonic> what must I install to be able to play .wmv's?
[10:00] <Daemonic> Codecs?
[10:00] <marlun> Great, now I have 1280x1024
[10:00] <nalioth> stevejesus: type /j #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:00] <kestas> I used gentoo for about a year before switching to ubuntu HappyFool so I dont think so really
[10:00] <HappyFool> !tell michel about dvd
[10:00] <mustard5> stevejesus, /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Daemonic about w32codecs
[10:00] <kestas> if you're implying ubuntu is for less tech savvy users
[10:00] <BlueEagle> !w32codecs
[10:00] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/
[10:01] <MrFarts> gentoo is evil
[10:01] <kestas> marlun, glad to hear it
[10:01] <zack_> anyone can follow gentoos manuals word for word
[10:01] <zack_> its just a matter if anyone wants to spend the time to do it
[10:01] <German> having problems with tomboy, can anyone help me please??
[10:01] <darksoul> hey were is wines c:/ folder?
[10:01] <BlueEagle> mrfarts: ...because?
[10:01] <HappyFool> kestas: the other way around; my impression (perhaps incorrect) is that gentoo is not for novices
[10:01] <KaoticEvil> darksoul: ~/.wine
[10:02] <liable> zack_: um, wrong channel, this is #ubuntu
[10:02] <oskude> zack_, i nstalled and used gentoo for a month or so, but got bored to compile every update :)
[10:02] <darksoul> were?
[10:02] <zack_> liable, i know, i was refering to other people talking about it
[10:02] <kestas> darksoul, depends where you configured it to be
[10:02] <MrFarts> BlueEagle, it's a fundamentally stupid idea
[10:02] <kestas> darksoul, usually ~/.wine/fake_windows
[10:02] <darksoul> i just installed it thru the package manager
[10:02] <britishseapower> wow - err when i put a nautilus ssh link on my desktop its the acutual folder yeah ?
[10:02] <britishseapower> not a lijnk ?
[10:03] <marlun> nalioth, kestas, thanks :)
[10:03] <kestas> darksoul, try installing winesetuptk
[10:03] <darksoul> i know..but i dont know were it is at all..i installed it thru the package manager lol
[10:03] <MrFarts> HappyFool, gentoo is for kids with too much time
[10:03] <darksoul> fine
[10:03] <britishseapower> i errr...just tried to delete it ? is it a link ? how do i recreate it
[10:03] <BlueEagle> mrfarts: It is a fundamentally stupid idea to have a distro that forces people to learn a good deal about how linux works and make it much easier to change aspects of applications on your system?
[10:03] <MrFarts> BlueEagle, 1. if you want to learn how linux works, read a book
[10:04] <kestas> BlueEagle, I learnt a fair bit about linux from using gentoo, not as much as I did from reading some books and texts, but it's pretty good for learning it
[10:04] <michel> ubutu is not a unix system?
[10:04] <britishseapower> its a "mounted volume" ?
[10:04] <MrFarts> BlueEagle, 2. as an extension of #1, configuring applications doesn't teach you about how linux works
[10:04] <britishseapower> i cant delete its contents by deleting it right?
[10:04] <oskude> michel, ubuntu is GNU/Linux
[10:04] <MrFarts> BlueEagle, 3. a source-code based distribution is retarded. binary applications are a good idea
[10:04] <oskude> oh, did i scare him/her :)
[10:05] <MrFarts> BlueEagle, 4. you don't need that extra 0.00001% of performance
[10:05] <MrFarts> BlueEagle, 5. that extra 0.000001% of performance will cause you possibly many headaches, especially with systems applications compiled with strange optimizations
[10:05] <kestas> most important is that emerge is terribly unstable, having a whole distro on the bleeding edge is just a bad idea
[10:05] <oskude> there are benefits for both, dont start a flame-war...
[10:06] <yahya> is there a shortcut to open nautilus?
[10:06] <MrFarts> kestas, i think gentoo is for dorks, honestly :)
[10:06] <BlueEagle> mrfarts: Arguments like "that and that is retarted" are not very productive. If you haven't got a good argument to back up your point there is no need to bring up that point. As for the 0.000001%, where do you get that number from?
[10:06] <kestas> Applications>File Manager I think
[10:06] <kvidell> hmm.. say I want to use vim and regex to clip timestamps wrapped in parenthesis off the front of lines of text...
[10:06] <HappyFool> yahya: 'Places -> Home Folder' ?
[10:06] <MrFarts> BlueEagle, i just gave you 5 good arguments
[10:06] <britishseapower> i wanna drag my hosts file to /etc with nautilus but i dont have permissions ? how do i do it ?
[10:06] <kvidell> would that be.. :1,35s/\(*\)/ /
[10:06] <kvidell> ?
[10:06] <oskude> i think he/she means key-shortcut ?
[10:07] <MrFarts> 0.00001% was pulled out of my ass
[10:07] <Daemonic> are there any worthy replacements for firefox? it keeps freezing at random sites..
[10:07] <MrFarts> i've heard people claim certain "performance benefits" with gentoo
[10:07] <MrFarts> the point is whatever "performance" you gain is going to be negligable
[10:07] <HappyFool> britishseapower: you can do Applications -> System tools -> Run as different user and run nautilus from there as root (not sure how good an idea that is)
[10:07] <yahya> HappyFool: yeah, i mean keyboard shortcut
[10:07] <oskude> Daemonic, could you give an url that freezes firefox ?
[10:07] <Daemonic> oskude, negative.
[10:07] <oskude> Daemonic, oh sry, u said random
[10:08] <kestas> kvidell, dont think so
[10:08] <Madpilot> britishseapower: lauch Naut from a terminal w/ "visudo nautilus"
[10:08] <oskude> Daemonic, well, i dont have any freezes...
[10:08] <britishseapower> HappyFool: ok..i'll do it on cammand line instead ! thanks. :-)
[10:08] <nalioth> britishseapower: learn the terminal
[10:08] <kvidell> hm.. yea, that doesn't work :-\
[10:08] <kestas> kvidell, depends on the format of the timestamps
[10:08] <kvidell> it doesn't like the asteris
[10:08] <nalioth> ubotu: tell britishseapower about cli
[10:08] <Madpilot> britishseapower: or "sudo cp <whatever>"
[10:08] <britishseapower> nalioth: i know terminal "ish"
[10:08] <BlueEagle> mrfarts: I agree with you that reading a book is a better way to learn about linux. However for people not wanting to read a book installing Gentoo is a better alternative than installing fedora and just getting a different desktop. Configuring linux applications teaches you to some extent how those applications work. Just like setting up applications on other operating systems...
[10:08] <kestas> kvidell, but that regex should just replace an asterix with a space
[10:08] <yahya> I liked Win+E on windows.. can't seem to get the Win key to act as a modifier in ubuntu
[10:08] <britishseapower> wierd not having root account though
[10:08] <DShepherd> nalioth kestas ahh  just as I thought. at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats tells you you can trying add the FIREFOX_DSP="none" line to ~/.mozilla/firefox/rc file. When I comment it out...it doesnt work, when i uncomment it works...
[10:08] <kvidell> (04:34:22) <kvidell> ee eee eeeeee
[10:08] <nalioth> britishseapower: opening gui apps with superuser priveleges is "Not A Good Thing"
[10:09] <kvidell> for example
[10:09] <oidia> Anyone knows how to use socks proxies with xchat?
[10:09] <britishseapower> su -s ?
[10:09] <kvidell> actually, it just deleted half the file
[10:09] <HappyFool> yahya: best i can offer is  System -> Prefs -> Keyboard Shortcuts, and enable the 'Home Folder' shortcut. There may be a (much) better option
[10:09] <britishseapower> nalioth: i wont do it then
[10:09] <britishseapower> what the command to go to superuser on command line
[10:09] <nalioth> britishseapower: no su, use sudo
[10:09] <kestas> kvidell, hrmmm well Im more familiar with sed than vim so Ill try and make a regex for sed
[10:09] <kestas> kvidell, heheh ouch
[10:09] <nalioth> britishseapower: sudo command target
[10:09] <kestas> kvidell, hope you can get it back
[10:09] <kvidell> oh, that'll work.
[10:09] <oidia> britishseapower: sudo -s ?
[10:09] <kvidell> yea, I just :q!'d then opened it again, lol
[10:09] <britishseapower> sudo -s...
[10:09] <britishseapower> thats it...thanks
[10:09] <DShepherd> nalioth kestas now my guess is that I need to enter an entry for epiphany and gaelon too.... Any ideas how that would look?
[10:10] <BlueEagle> mrfarts: Distributing applications as source code is pretty standard in the linux community. A distro that is faster than another distro on a server may reduce the total cost of hardware needed in ie. a cluster. Overtuning anything might cause it to break and thus it is not recomended for people not knowing what they are doing.
[10:10] <nalioth> britishseapower: sudo -i is preferable
[10:10] <nalioth> DShepherd: ~/.epiphany/blah?
[10:11] <BlueEagle> mrfarts: You had one good argument, but the argument about something being "retarted" nullified the karma gained. :)
[10:11] <oskude> If you enjoy what you do, you'll never work another day in your life. :)
[10:12] <MrFarts> BlueEagle, source is nice to have, but you don't want to see it in every case
[10:12] <MrFarts> BlueEagle, it's good as option, not as a default package format
[10:12] <DShepherd> nalioth thanks...but i mean....the entry in the RC file..what would that look like....EPIPHANY_DSP?
[10:12] <emurz> Hello, How can I install the ATI 9200 drivers for ubuntu?
[10:13] <kestas> kvidell, its not elegant but it should work
[10:13] <kestas> sed -i.bak -e 's/^([0-9] [0-9] :[0-9] [0-9] :[0-9] [0-9] )//' blah.file
[10:13] <oskude> emurz, i got the same card :) (but havent installed drivers yet)
[10:13] <nalioth> DShepherd: perhaps put "epiphany_dsp" into google and see what comes up
[10:13] <emurz> oskude, I installed it once for debian, it worked fine
[10:13] <DShepherd> nalioth did that already,,,nothing
[10:14] <britishseapower> nalioth: -i ?
[10:14] <britishseapower> nalioth: what difference ?
[10:14] <MrFarts> BlueEagle, i can think of one good application for gentoo: using it as a system for creating your own binary distribution for a large custom installation
[10:14] <oskude> emurz, i allso installed the official ati drivers under hoary once... worked
[10:15] <nalioth> britishseapower: -i is 'interactive' and is more useful
[10:15] <britishseapower> nalioth: k..ta
[10:16] <HappyPills> I was wandering if anyone has had much success with wpa_supplicant, I can't get it to load on startup correctly =(
[10:16] <kestas> oh FUCKING COLD
[10:16] <kestas> water is dripping out of every hole in my face
[10:17] <kestas> buuuughhhh
[10:17] <BlueEagle> mrfarts: That would also be a good use. Also I agree with you that Gentoo would be for people interested in it. For a desktop distribution it's not very good. Especially not if you plan to use KDE. I've compiled QT for hours on end. That's no fun at all. :)
[10:17] <MrFarts> kestas, you have holes in your face ?
[10:17] <britishseapower> damn - i updated my hosts and now i cant get su ! "sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()"
[10:17] <HappyPills> he made them
[10:17] <britishseapower> i got a backup hosts but i cant get to it ?
[10:17] <emurz> is xorg better than xfree86?
[10:17] <MrFarts> BlueEagle, perhaps i'm just bitter though; i inherited a network full of gentoo machines. i hate it
[10:17] <britishseapower> what i do now ?
[10:17] <nalioth> kestas: dude, watch the language please (and the caps)
[10:17] <traveller> i installed webmin but i can't access it, is there anything i'm missing?
[10:17] <nalioth> britishseapower: dont use su
[10:18] <gigcs> command gpg  check package have sign ?
[10:18] <nalioth> britishseapower: this is ubuntu, not debian or redcrap
[10:18] <oskude> britishseapower, ive heard about that "sudo gethostbyname" search in ubuntuforums.org
[10:18] <kestas> nalioth, i'b borry
[10:18] <HappyFool> britishseapower: i think the only option is to boot into recovery mode
[10:18] <BlueEagle> mrfarts: Then again I came from an RPM-based distro before trying gentoo and not having to hunt down missing libs on my own made life soo much easier. However after trying Ubuntu I do think it's "a bettery way"(tm)
[10:18] <nalioth> HappyFool: yes, boot through recovery mode and put your hostname back in your hosts file
[10:18] <MrFarts> BlueEagle, fedora has something called "yum"
[10:19] <britishseapower> balls.
[10:19] <MrFarts> BlueEagle, which does something similar to what ubuntu does with apt-get
[10:19] <HappyFool> nalioth: i think he's changing hostname. britishseapower: make sure /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts have matching entries
[10:19] <britishseapower> HappyFool: sounds like a nightmare..
[10:19] <britishseapower> HappyFool: will do though
[10:19] <britishseapower> back later...
[10:19] <DShepherd> nalioth well galeon has the same problem...
[10:19] <HappyFool> britishseapower: i did exactly that on friday ;)
[10:19] <oskude> isnt that a bug ? why should u need to reboot to recovery mode to change /etc/hosts ?
[10:19] <kestas> that also happened to me
[10:19] <britishseapower> and i need to add "127.0.0.1 ubuntu" to top of hosts file i guess ?
[10:19] <kestas> used the live cd
[10:19] <MrFarts> BlueEagle, i think ubuntu is more suitable for a server installation though, which is why i am playing with it
[10:19] <DShepherd> nalioth it has something to do with DSP being off when firefox runs......
[10:19] <nalioth> DShepherd: i dont run flash things (even on my OSX, where it actually works)
[10:20] <nalioth> DShepherd: ubuntu is rife with sound problems
[10:20] <MrFarts> it's either that or CentOS, but the release cycle on CentOS is way too slow
[10:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell DShepherd about sound
[10:20] <oskude> MrFarts, i would ALLWAYS use Debian over Ubuntu for servers...
[10:20] <HappyFool> britishseapower: i'm not sure of the precise issue, but just make sure everything matches
[10:20] <kestas> oskude, debian is too unstable though really
[10:20] <MrFarts> oskude, unfortunately, debian is out of the question -- the software library is way too out of date
[10:20] <kestas> unless youre using 2.0 kernel bleah
[10:21] <oskude> kestas, unstable ? lol
[10:21] <DShepherd> nalioth. ok tell me this...the rc file. what does rc mean?
[10:21] <MrFarts> oskude, and using testing or unstable or whatever it's called sort of negates the purpose
[10:21] <oskude> MrFarts, out of date, maybe, but stable
[10:21] <nalioth> DShepherd: i've not figured that out yet, which is crazy seein how long i've been using *nix
[10:21] <MrFarts> oskude, i need something reasonably not out of date; we depend on a lot of newer software unfortunately
[10:21] <kestas> btw about your gentoo is bad because it compiles from source
[10:21] <KaoticEvil> ResourCe, maybe?
[10:21] <kestas> freebsd compiles from source and its damn good
[10:22] <DShepherd> nalioth that's ok....I understand
[10:22] <HappyFool> DShepherd, nalioth: possibly 'resource configuration'
[10:22] <MrFarts> kestas, freebsd does not compile from source
[10:22] <oskude> MrFarts, any you dont just upgrade every half year...
[10:22] <KaoticEvil> there we go...
[10:22] <kestas> MrFarts, it does
[10:22] <MrFarts> kestas, it has a ports system but you can get binaries as well
[10:22] <DShepherd> HappyFool: sounds sensible :)
[10:22] <nalioth> DShepherd: if you find out, let me know, please
[10:22] <kestas> MrFarts, the binary package system is terrible compared to ports
[10:22] <DShepherd> nalioth ok
[10:23] <kestas> MrFarts, pretty much everyone who uses freebsd uses ports, I use it and it's very stable, makes me wonder why gentoo is so unstable really
[10:23] <kestas> gentoo always messed up during updates, but freebsd never has for me
[10:23] <henningi> hello, does enyone know where I can find the "java-package"  in breezy?, what is the apt source?
[10:23] <michel> ik kan geen audio openen
[10:23] <MrFarts> oskude, what do you tink is running with running ubuntu as a server ?
[10:23] <MrFarts> er, is wrong
[10:24] <KaoticEvil> brb
[10:24] <MrFarts> it seems to have a minimal installation option, the software that is included is known to be stable
[10:24] <MrFarts> seems ok to me
[10:24] <oskude> MrFarts, me no comprende...
[10:24] <michel> how i can play mp3's o always get a message that it cant
[10:24] <MrFarts> osfameron, yo no comprendo you mean ? :)
[10:25] <HappyFool> henningi: it's in the universe repository
[10:25] <HappyFool> michel: you need to install mp3 software
[10:25] <michel> xmms?
[10:25] <HappyFool> hm. i thought xmms came with mp3 support
[10:26] <Madpilot> !tell michel about mp3
[10:26] <emurz> is it better to enable "kernel framebuffer device interface" or to turn it off?
[10:26] <DShepherd> nalioth adding EPIPHANY_DSP to the rc file doesnt seem to work?
[10:26] <HappyFool> in hoary one needed to set xmms's 'output plugin' to esd
[10:26] <DShepherd> nalioth do you know how I can kill dsp manually?
[10:26] <MrFarts> emurz, do you need a kernel framebuffer ?
[10:26] <nalioth> DShepherd: hunt it down using ps aux
[10:27] <nalioth> |grep dsp
[10:27] <DShepherd> ok
[10:27] <emurz> I don't know whether it helps
[10:27] <HappyFool> does the splashscreen use the framebuffer?
[10:27] <MrFarts> emurz, do you want pretty graphics on the console ?
[10:27] <emurz> I'm using kubuntu here
[10:27] <DShepherd> I dont see it
[10:27] <oskude> is kubuntu a own distribution or is it just a package ?
[10:27] <DShepherd> nalioth I dont see it running 'dsp'
[10:28] <LootBeer> how do u mount a cd of mp3's in linux?
[10:28] <HappyFool> emurz: i don't recommending using a custom kernel unless you have a specific need to
[10:28] <oskude> LootBeer, mount /media/cdrom0 :)
[10:28] <nalioth> DShepherd: /msg ubotu sound
[10:29] <HappyFool> oskude: it's part of ubuntu. The package 'kubuntu-desktop' will get you kubuntu on gnome-ubuntu system
[10:29] <LootBeer> i tried it.. but it say too many filesystem? why?
[10:29] <oskude> LootBeer, what i wanted to say, is, you mount like any other data cd
[10:29] <oskude> LootBeer, hmm
[10:29] <oskude> HappyFool, thnx
[10:30] <oskude> does fdisk work on cdrom ?
[10:30] <henningi> HappyFool: thanks, but I cant find it in the norweginan universe repository "deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe" I will try to switch
[10:30] <HappyFool> fdisk only works only on partitionable devices, i believe
[10:30] <HappyFool> henningi: doh!
[10:30] <oskude> LootBeer, how does your /media/cdrom0 line look like in /etc/fstab ?
[10:31] <HappyFool> henningi: my apologies. I meant multiverse
[10:31] <DShepherd> nalioth why do you like gaelon again?
[10:31] <LootBeer> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom,
[10:31] <LootBeer>        or too many mounted file systems
[10:31] <HappyFool> henningi: clearly i need coffee
[10:31] <DShepherd> epiphany seems nice to me IMHO
[10:31] <nalioth> DShepherd: more features and gtk2 (imho)
[10:31] <DShepherd> nalioth*nicer
[10:31] <DShepherd> naliothok
[10:31] <HappyFool> LootBeer: what mount command are you using?
[10:32] <britishseapower> if i get the musci player to scan my share - it wont edit any of my tags or touch the files on the share at all ?
[10:32] <oskude> LootBeer, did you try "mount /media/cdrom0" and not "mount /media/cdrom0" ?
[10:32] <oskude> LootBeer, hups
[10:32] <britishseapower> i imagine it just creates its own database ?
[10:32] <oskude> LootBeer, ment not "mount /media/cdrom"
[10:33] <henningi> HappyFool: Hah, that worked great :) thanks
[10:33] <britishseapower> if i get the music player to scan my share - it wont edit any of my tags or touch the files on the share at all ?
[10:33] <britishseapower> i imagine it just creates its own database ? that right?
[10:33] <HappyFool> britishseapower: as far as i know rhythmbox doesn't change the files
[10:33] <HappyFool> britishseapower: try mounting the share read-only if you're concerned
[10:33] <britishseapower> good one
[10:34] <oskude> HappyFool, or lets ask so, have you succesfully mounted ANY cds under your linux ? if so, could u open that mp3 cd with the same procedure ?
[10:34] <mommer> so, how do I get mp3 support under ubuntu? totem says no banana...
[10:34] <gigcs> make distro ubuntu
[10:34] <oskude> LootBeer, , or lets ask so, have you succesfully mounted ANY cds under your linux ? if so, could u open that mp3 cd with the same procedure ?
[10:34] <gigcs> redistro ubuntu
[10:34] <oskude> HappyFool, sry, wrong man :)
[10:34] <Madpilot> !tell mommer about mp3
[10:35] <britishseapower> HappyFool: rythmbox though...not amarok
[10:36] <oskude> silence ?
[10:36] <oskude> enjoying the silence... :)
[10:36] <Andypoo> Evening.
[10:37] <oskude> goo'day
[10:37] <mommer> Madpilot: thanks!
[10:38] <oskude> am i lagging or is here really silence... ?!
[10:39] <ompaul> shhhh
[10:39] <oskude> O.o
[10:39] <sneaky> if i want to play mp3 i alway get the message, control is youre soudcard is installed corectly,
[10:39] <ompaul> :-)
[10:40] <oskude> sneaky, close the message and press play ?
[10:40] <sneaky> cant
[10:40] <oskude> sneaky, hmm
[10:40] <sneaky> i get the message then
[10:41] <oskude> sneaky, do you get audio form other sound files / programs ?
[10:41] <sneaky> no i have just x-chat on
[10:42] <oskude> sneaky, so you newer played any sound ? did you hear the ubuntu start sound ?
[10:42] <switchcat> tried to change my burning speed, either it didn't burn at that speed, or it just didn't work. :( downloading via torrent this time.
[10:42] <sneaky> no
[10:42] <sneaky> never heard somethin i have a fresh install ubuntu
[10:43] <oskude> sneaky, is the sound maybe just muted ? check the "speaker" icon on your gnomepanel (upper-right)
[10:44] <sneaky> its not muted
[10:44] <DShepherd> well nalioth firefox works.....and nothing else for now....man...pity these things dont work out of the box...oh well..
[10:44] <nalioth> DShepherd: it'll get better. sound has always been an issue in ubuntu
[10:45] <oskude> sneaky, hmm, thats was the reason i changed from debian to ubuntu (audio WAS regonized/configured automaticly) :)
[10:45] <emurz> oskude, I got it installed :)
[10:45] <oskude> sneaky, so cant help you much :(
[10:45] <DShepherd> nalioth always.....mann....I hope that changes pretty soon
[10:45] <emurz> oskude, display: :0.0  screen: 0
[10:45] <emurz> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[10:45] <emurz> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9200 Series DDR Generic
[10:45] <emurz> OpenGL version string: 1.3.1010 (X4.3.0-8.16.20)
[10:45] <nalioth> emurz: what part of the /topic did you miss?
[10:45] <sneaky> i dont have any sound :(
[10:45] <emurz> the lines ? :)
[10:46] <oskude> emurz, nice, what tut did you use ? or the form ati.com site ?
[10:46] <DShepherd> nalioth anyways...I am way pass my bed time. thanks for the advice,, later
[10:46] <darksoul> has anyone got counter strike source to run on wine?
[10:46] <adriyel> nalioth, main issue I have with sound atm, is that I have to bugger with it to get doom3/quake4 sound working (oss?) and my sound in flash/firefox doesn't owkr
[10:46] <nalioth> DShepherd: sleep well
[10:46] <adriyel> work
[10:46] <emurz> nalioth, I know that one can post up to 4 lines
[10:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell adriyel about sound
[10:46] <nalioth> emurz: did you read the /topic?
[10:46] <adriyel> you used the bot :(
[10:46] <emurz> oskude, nope, the fglrx modules
[10:47] <nalioth> emurz: 4 lines x 586 people is quite nasty
[10:47] <nalioth> emurz: please use a pastebin
[10:47] <emurz> sure
[10:47] <oskude> emurz, ok, could you post glxgears fps ? and cpu :)
[10:47] <emurz> sure
[10:48] <emurz> how can I post the cpu?
[10:48] <oskude> emurz, or was it fglr_gears or something else...
[10:48] <emurz> fglrxgears
[10:48] <emurz> erm
[10:48] <Daemonic> is there a limewire package available?
[10:48] <emurz> glxgears
[10:48] <oskude> emurz, i ment how fast is your cpu ? ghz ?
[10:48] <adriyel> is dapper drake going to involve working on the sound issues?
[10:49] <oskude> emurz, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:49] <emurz> oskude, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4462 / CPU:3GHz
[10:49] <oskude> emurz, roger, thnx a much :)
[10:49] <emurz> you're welcome =] 
[10:49] <oskude> emurz, WOOAAAH :)
[10:49] <snadge> should i upgrade my laptop to breezy from hoary? ;)
[10:49] <emurz> nice fps right :P
[10:50] <oskude> emurz, i got a crappy 1.2ghz duron :(
[10:50] <emurz> my monitor s0x0rz tho
[10:50] <oskude> emurz, remember having something at 500fps
[10:50] <emurz> I'm working on 60Hz monitor
[10:50] <oskude> emurz, ouch
[10:51] <kvidell> kestas: thanks! worked like a charm :) (Sorry, I got beckoned by the fiance.)
[10:51] <emurz> nalioth, do you know where can I download eric from?
[10:51] <xxenon> I have problems with fonts rendering in flash pages (firefox). No fonts get displayed. Any clue ?
[10:51] <oskude> emurz, btw. did you follow this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[10:51] <nalioth> emurz: what is 'eric' ?
[10:52] <emurz> nalioth, it's an IDE for python
[10:52] <DragoraN> hi!
[10:52] <nalioth> emurz: it is in the repos
[10:52] <nalioth> emurz: use synaptic
[10:52] <DragoraN> is it possible to lock touchpad on notebook when usb mouse is connected?
[10:52] <emurz> nope, I cannot find it
[10:53] <emurz> it's in the debian repos, I cannot find it in ubuntu's one
[10:53] <snadge> ok i take it no response means i should upgrade my laptop from hoary to breezy :P
[10:53] <ilba7r> snadge it has a little better hardware support other than that its not that big leep
[10:53] <mikal> Is there any way to disable uhci and ohci during boot of the live cd?
[10:53] <emurz> oskude, I followed some article in ubuntu's forums. I think I got the same commands in the article you posted.
[10:53] <oskude> snadge, im allso "delaying" my notebook update from hoary to breezy :)
[10:53] <oskude> emurz, roger
[10:54] <ilba7r> snadge but from what i understand also to upgrade ot any new release you have to go through all inbetween releases of upgrade
[10:54] <snadge> i have
[10:54] <snadge> did that last night
[10:54] <adriyel> nalioth,
[10:54] <adriyel> ffs man
[10:54] <kestas> kvidell, glad to hear it
[10:54] <adriyel> I offered to stop long before, and he didn't shut up
[10:54] <snadge> im gonna do it.. at 128kbps.. woo
[10:54] <kestas> :)
[10:54] <emurz> oskude, are you using gnome?
[10:54] <adriyel> unban me please
[10:55] <adriyel> n/m
[10:55] <nalioth> adriyel: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[10:55] <oskude> emurz, yes
[10:55] <emurz> oskude, ah, I'm using kubuntu here
[10:55] <DragoraN> is it possible to lock touchpad on notebook when usb mouse is connected?
[10:56] <oskude> emurz, kde is too "overlbown" for me, but as i heard kde can that osx "app-menu in top-panel" im thinking on kde :)
[10:57] <javier_> h all,how can i see the *.wmv files on ubnutu?? i cant open them using totem nor mplayer
[10:57] <oskude> ive heard that when "drake" is out, the upgrade frequency will lower ?
[10:57] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell javier_ about w32codecs
[10:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell javier_ about w32codecs
[10:57] <adriyel> nalioth, beat me to it :)
[10:57] <nalioth> oskude: that is incorrect. ubuntu releases every 6 months
[10:58] <ilba7r> is drake the new release?
[10:58] <MisterFarts> nalioth, how long are security updates provided ?
[10:59] <adriyel> MisterFarts, I think 1 1/2 years...is that right guys?
[10:59] <oskude> nalioth, and drake will ubgrade every ? months ? or is this still speculation ?
[10:59] <HappyFool> adriyel: indeed. dapper drake will have a longer support period, however
[10:59] <adriyel> HappyFool, is drake a sort of milestone?
[10:59] <javier_> thx for the information guys
[10:59] <adriyel> HappyFool, I wasn't aware of any peculiar emphasis
[11:00] <nalioth> MisterFarts: oskude: security will be provided for years afterward for dapper, and only security updates will follow the final release
[11:00] <nalioth> adriyel: dapper drake is ubuntu 6.04
[11:00] <MisterFarts> nalioth, i'm not talking about dapper
[11:00] <javier_> i have another problem: i have a webcam, and it has the light as if it were on, but i just cant find any program to control it, can u plz help me???
[11:00] <MisterFarts> nalioth, if i were to install ubuntu 5.10 right now, how long would i get security updates ?
[11:01] <adriyel> nalioth, I'm aware of this...are the 04's going to be the milestones?
[11:01] <adriyel> MisterFarts, until 1.4 years from now
[11:01] <HappyFool> 18 months from release, so 17 months
[11:01] <nalioth> MisterFarts: 18 months
[11:01] <oskude> nalioth, i ment "apt-get upgrade" not "apt-get update" ...
[11:01] <nalioth> adriyel: they are all milestones
[11:01] <MisterFarts> nalioth, i see; is it possible to upgrade between ubuntu versions live ?
[11:01] <adriyel> ok, let me check real quick, is there any emphasis on drake?
[11:01] <nalioth> oskude: after an ubuntu version finals, only security updates are officially provided
[11:01] <nalioth> MisterFarts: live?
[11:02] <HappyFool> adriyel: i'm looking for the article i was thinking of... stand by
[11:02] <MisterFarts> nalioth, yes, on a running system
[11:02] <nalioth> adriyel: not emphasis at all, it's just the next version of ubuntu
[11:02] <adriyel> *nods*
[11:02] <adriyel> I believe I understand now
[11:02] <nalioth> MisterFarts: of course it is, that is the beauty of a debian based system (apt-get)
[11:02] <adriyel> what time is it right now for everybody? it is 5:02am EST here
[11:02] <gigcs>  sign the release file using HowTo
[11:03] <oskude> 1103 hours
[11:03] <ilba7r> adriyel hi 5:02 am here too
[11:03] <MisterFarts> nalioth, ok, so after 1.5 years, i should be able to pretty mainlessly migrate to the current version of ubuntu ?
[11:03] <adriyel> MisterFarts, yes
[11:03] <MisterFarts> adriyel, thanks
[11:03] <penguinzdr> it is 12:03 EET
[11:03] <adriyel> apt-get is beautiful, even if you didn't choose ubuntu, I'd highly recommend a .deb/apt-get based system
[11:03] <nalioth> MisterFarts: it's preferable to upgrade to the next contiguous release
[11:03] <oskude> MisterFarts, well, apt-get upgrade didnt work on debian "100%" neither, so...
[11:03] <adriyel> apt-get is what made me switch completely to Linux
[11:04] <Regexted> Basicly a debian system
[11:05] <MisterFarts> i'm looking at what debian-stable has in it, but it seems way too conservative unfortunatley :L(
[11:05] <oskude> MisterFarts, like what ?
[11:05] <yahya> how can i make the sudo time more than 15 minutes?
[11:05] <oskude> MisterFarts, nvm, would be off-topic :)
[11:05] <MisterFarts> oskude, older development tools, older kernel (not sure i care to much about that though)
[11:06] <HappyFool> adriyel: here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperGoals  -- 6.04 will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, 5 on server
[11:06] <adriyel> wow.
[11:06] <adriyel> long support schedule
[11:06] <oskude> why do all think olde=bad ? u know what software was used to fly in to the space ? :)
[11:06] <hns> yahya: don' t, 15 minutes is already too long
[11:06] <adriyel> MisterFarts, Ubuntu Server is certainly stable
[11:06] <MisterFarts> adriyel, that's what i'm leaning towards right now ...
[11:07] <nalioth> in linux stability is treasured over 'bling'
[11:07] <HappyFool> oskude: feel free to code in Fortran-77 if you like old ;)
[11:07] <yahya> hns:  i'll reset it to 15 once i'm done tinkering around :P
[11:07] <adriyel> if you want bling, turn meterosexual and buy a mac.
[11:07] <hns> ok, wait
[11:07] <adriyel> (sorry, had to)
[11:08] <MisterFarts> adriyel, i want what is useful for development, easy to maintain, and generally as painless as possible
[11:08] <michel> can someone help me oout with my sound?
[11:08] <eXistenZ> is it preffered to use the w32codecs for mp3 support or the gstreamer plugins?
[11:08] <HappyFool> have you seen the list of screensavers that comes with ubuntu? plenty of bling there :P
[11:08] <redduck666> on every distro so far i could mount my usb key with mount /dev/sda1 /key, while ubuntu says i need to specify a file system type. i tried adding -t usbfs and -t vfat, but no luck. any help appreciated
[11:09] <hns> yahya: put this line in your sudiers file and change the zero in what you want: Defaults 	timestamp_timeout = 0
[11:09] <HappyFool> eXistenZ: for normal mp3 sound, you should not need w32codecs
[11:09] <eXistenZ> HappyFool, normal mp3 sound?
[11:09] <nalioth> eXistenZ: the gstreamer and liblame
[11:09] <HappyFool> michel: what's the problem?
[11:09] <michel> i cant play anny sound/mp3
[11:09] <eli> Does anyone know of a console-based audo player that will play internet radio stations?
[11:09] <HappyFool> eXistenZ: as opposed to weird and wonderful microsoft audio/video codecs
[11:09] <HappyFool> michel: what application are you trying to use?
[11:10] <michel> xmms
[11:10] <MisterFarts> does MS actually have its own codecs  ?
[11:10] <michel> to play mp3
[11:10] <redduck666> eli, mp3blaster can do that. even mplayer can do it
[11:10] <siimo> MisterFarts, yes
[11:10] <MisterFarts> i thought they just have wrappers around stuff
[11:10] <HappyFool> michel: ok, what happens when you try to play a song?
[11:11] <eli> ok.. greatt.  i'll check 'em out. thanks.
[11:11] <siimo> michel, try beep-media-player GTK2 version of xmms works great
[11:11] <oskude> redduck666, my flash is mounted through fstab on a normal directory in /mnt
[11:11] <michel> 1 if i  gonfigure my soundcard right, 2 did i use the ritght plugin 3 is there an other program taht blocks my soundcard
[11:13] <HappyFool> michel: ok, let's test a simple sound first
[11:13] <siimo> michel, how do we know? does sound work at all, how about at GDM login
[11:13] <redduck666> oskude, thanks will try it
[11:13] <HappyFool> michel: are you running ubuntu 5.10 ? (breezy badger)
[11:13] <michel> yes
[11:14] <siimo> michel, so sound works?
[11:14] <michel> no
[11:14] <HappyFool> michel: yes to me or siimo? ;)
[11:14] <siimo> to you.
[11:14] <michel> i use ybuntu 5.10, breezy badger, sound doesnt work at all
[11:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell michel about sound
[11:15] <siimo> michel, i suggest you use ubuntu device database in system tools
[11:15] <siimo> it checks out sound
[11:15] <HappyFool> michel: ok. can you paste the output of 'aplay -l' to the pastebin ? (paste.ubuntulinux.nl)
[11:15] <michel> how i do that
[11:16] <coms> can someone help me with synaptics touchpad under unbuntu (2.6.12)
[11:16] <HappyFool> michel: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[11:16] <michel> and then
[11:17] <HappyFool> michel: a terminal is like the windows command prompt. type 'aplay -l' and press enter. Then, do *not* paste here...
[11:17] <HappyFool> michel: instead, point your browser to paste.ubuntulinux.nl and copy-and-paste the output to that page
[11:18] <coms> Newbie needs help with Touchpad config with kernel 2.6... i can't disable the tap-click
[11:18] <michel> michel@ubuntu:~$ applay -l'
[11:18] <michel> >
[11:18] <michel> i get this
[11:18] <Hentai^XP2> oh no
[11:18] <HappyFool> *sigh*
[11:18] <Hentai^XP2> lol
[11:18] <HappyFool> michel: ah, ok, no paste
[11:18] <HappyFool> michel: no quotes.   just     aplay -l
[11:19] <HappyFool> michel: type '<enter> to make the   '>' prompt end
[11:19] <michel> no soundcard found
[11:19] <HappyFool> ah
[11:20] <blueblood> Anyone got the Need for speed: MW demot working ? :)
[11:20] <siimo> michel, do you know what snd card you have
[11:20] <michel> onboard
[11:20] <michel> no i dont know
[11:20] <siimo> michel, do you have ubuntu live cd . or even better knoppix
[11:20] <HappyFool> michel: looks like you'll need to read these pages: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[11:21] <Tirno> hi there, I'm trying to use abc2ps but it thinks the entries are in latin-1 when they are actually in utf-8. Do I need to convert my text file, or can I use some sort of command prefix? (plain text is encoded in utf-8; the program creates ps and assumes latin-1)
[11:21] <michel> simo i dont have
[11:21] <michel> @ windows it worked:p
[11:21] <Tirno> any suggestions?
[11:21] <HappyFool> hmm. that second one is not terribly useful for solving your problem in the short term
[11:22] <coms> [REQ HELP]  I need some help configuring the synapitcs touchpad on a laptop ... some "known issues" i can't resolve...
[11:23] <yahya> hns:  thanks
[11:23] <hns> welcome
[11:23] <Tony_Sidaway> Hmm, got a problem.  If I do "ps e" I see tty1 to tty6 running gettys, and pts/1, which is running X.  And when I'm in the boot sequence I can switch from tty1 to tty2 and so on by using Ctrl-Alt-F1.
[11:23] <HappyFool> michel: you can try following the instructions on DebuggingSoundProblems (under 'Contributed by Carl Karsten')
[11:24] <coms> [REQ HELP]  I need some help configuring the synapitcs touchpad on a laptop ... some "known issues" i can't resolve...
[11:24] <Tony_Sidaway> But when I'm in X, I can't get out using those key combinations.
[11:24] <spling> I'm having an installation problem with a LiveCD boot of ubuntu
[11:24] <spling> I have some errors that it gave me copied down.
[11:24] <robotgeek> Tony_Sidaway: that works too, try using something else.../etc/xmodmap.conf
[11:24] <spling> Can anyone help me out?
[11:25] <coms> Anyone had issues with Synaptics touchpad on their laptop??
[11:25] <HappyFool> Tirno: have you tried using gedit to convert the encoding? under the 'Save As' dialog there's a character-coding selection
[11:25] <Tony_Sidaway> robotgeek, thanks. I think this is a side effect of my migrating from Debian Sarge to Ubunu Breezy using apt-get dist-upgrade.  Nearly everything works perfectly, or can be made to do so, but this one evades me so far.  Thanks I'll look at /etc/xmodmap.conf
[11:26] <Tony_Sidaway> # ls /etc/xmodmap.conf
[11:26] <Tony_Sidaway> ls: /etc/xmodmap.conf: No such file or director
[11:27] <Tony_Sidaway> robotgeek, is that the right filename?  If so I'll have to find the package it belongs to and reinstall.
[11:27] <robotgeek> Tony_Sidaway: yeah, i guess u need to install it. sorry
[11:27] <Tony_Sidaway> robotgeek, that's great news!
[11:28] <LasseL> Tony_Sidaway, a little warning: i don't think that ubuntu will load your xmodmap.conf file automatically, even if you create it
[11:29] <robotgeek> Tony_Sidaway: you'l have to run it with your session file. or run xmodmap manually
[11:29] <Tony_Sidaway> LasseL, thanks.  I'll have to work out how a stock ubuntu install makes it happen.
[11:29] <LasseL> robotgeek, i do what robotgeek suggests
[11:30] <robotgeek> LasseL: :)
[11:30] <coms> I'm a newbie and i need help patching the kernel...
[11:30] <coms> help
[11:30] <coms> :)
[11:32] <coms> anyone willing to help
[11:32] <coms> ?
[11:32] <Tony_Sidaway> robotgeek, oh I can do it in a shellscript /etc/X11/gdm/PostLogin/Default
[11:32] <michel> was the site to troubleshoot sound?
[11:32] <Tirno> HappyFool: yeah, could convert my plain text file to latin1 no problem, but I'd like to have everything on my box utf-8 if possible
[11:32] <Tony_Sidaway> Probably where I'd want it because it's a universal key mapping
[11:33] <robotgeek> Tony_Sidaway: or bring it up with /etc/init.d/ :)
[11:33] <HappyFool> michel:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:33] <HappyFool> Tirno: i meant as a temporary measure. this is something you'll need to do often?
[11:34] <coms> Need help with Config of touchpad
[11:34] <coms> !!
[11:34] <ubotu> I heard ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[11:34] <coms> can anyone see me?
[11:35] <HappyFool> coms: if anyone is able and willing, they'll respond. have you looked at the kernelhowto on the wiki?
[11:35] <nalioth> coms: yes we see you. nobody has an answer for you now
[11:35] <coms> HappyFool, nalioth . thanks for acking me :)
[11:36] <robotgeek> Tony_Sidaway: scratch what i said..you need to bring it up after X comes up.so, your approach is better
[11:36] <coms> nalioth, i never asked for specific help on a chan, so i don't know how scarse the responses are
[11:36] <coms> HappyFool,  i haven't read them...
[11:38] <michel> still i have no sound,. but ut found a soundcard
[11:39] <michel> ;
[11:41] <coms> HappyFool, the howto isnt very helpful... it's a bit beyond me. The instructions i have are a kernel patch and don't use the same commands as in the howto
[11:41] <spling> Can anyone help me install ubuntu? I run into a problem when it tries to run /etc/hotplug/usb.rc - it hangs and wont go any further
[11:42] <spling> Could it be because I have my mouse plugged in or something?
[11:42] <HappyFool> coms: kernel compilation is relatively complicated, unfortunately
[11:42] <MisterFarts> coms, why are you compiling a kernel ?
[11:43] <coms> HappyFool, yeah i kindda expecting that..
[11:43] <coms> HappyFool, MisterFarts, i'm not compiling the kernel.. i'm just trying to apply a patch for a touchpad
[11:44] <robotgeek> coms: aren't there directions to apply the patch? from where you obtained the patch?
[11:44] <MisterFarts> coms, is the patch to kernel source ?
[11:44] <coms> HappyFool, MisterFarts , the command is: gunzip name_name_of_patch | patch -p1
[11:44] <MisterFarts> coms, what does this patch do ?
[11:44] <MisterFarts> coms, and where did you get it ?
[11:44] <coms> MisterFarts, it makes the touchpad work :)
[11:44] <MisterFarts> coms, who provides this patch ?
[11:45] <Boobek> hi
[11:45] <coms> MisterFarts, i didn't download it.. or maybe i did.. it's just in /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-synaptcs/patch
[11:45] <MisterFarts> coms, this is most likely part of the kernel source you have installed
[11:45] <nalioth> coms: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowto
[11:45] <MisterFarts> coms, this patch is almost surely already in the running kernel
[11:45] <coms> nalioth, thank you
[11:46] <coms> MisterFarts, yes.. that's what i was telling myself
[11:47] <coms> nalioth, MisterFarts .. i'll read the Synaptics howto and see if it's useful.. i'll get back to you.. thanks for the help
[11:48] <MisterFarts> coms, there's not much to do there; just looks like you need to load an X.org module
[11:49] <spling> Running /etc/hotplug/usb.rc
[11:49] <spling> [4294674.594000]  ohci_hcd 0000:00:13.1: unlink after no-IRQ? Controller is probably using the wrong IRQ.
[11:49] <spling> - Install hangs here -
[11:50] <spling> Can anyone help me with this??
[11:50] <blueblood> Anyone got tips for links to read about how to code in linux? How to compile, how to use makefiles? Just want simple examples.
[11:50] <MisterFarts> blueblood, buy K&R's book on C
[11:51] <blueblood> no thanks
[11:51] <MisterFarts> blueblood, i guess you don't want to learn then
[11:51] <HappyFool> spling: try booting with 'linux debian-installer/probe/usb=false'
[11:51] <mommer> there's the make documentation, and the K&R is reputed to be online.
[11:51] <HappyFool> doh
[11:51] <mommer> but I don't know for sure.
[11:52] <MisterFarts> mommer, you should learn C before learning the make system
[11:52] <HappyFool> spling: try booting with 'linux debian-installer/probe/usb=false'
[11:52] <MisterFarts> you need some fairly sophisticated stuff to even warrant make
[11:52] <xunk> hi
[11:52] <spling> I'm using a live install if that makes any difference.
[11:52] <HappyFool> spling: what's a live install?
[11:52] <spling> I tried doing that once happyfool and it didn't workRunning /etc/hotplug/usb.rc
[11:52] <spling> [4294674.594000]  ohci_hcd 0000:00:13.1: unlink after no-IRQ? Controller is probably using the wrong IRQ.
[11:52] <spling> - Install hangs here -
[11:52] <spling> ack
[11:53] <spling> uhh
[11:53] <spling> a live boot?
[11:53] <mommer> MisterFarts: blueblods q sounds as if he knew programming already.
[11:53] <spling> live CD?
[11:53] <HappyFool> spling: ah, live cd
[11:53] <spling> does that make any difference?
[11:53] <blueblood> I just want to compile my SDL projects withouy having to type a 150char long gcc line :/
[11:53] <MisterFarts> mommer, he was asking about how "to code an compile"
[11:53] <MisterFarts> mommer, sounds like he's pretty green
[11:54] <HappyFool> spling: sorry, that's my best guess. check the help pages on boot under F1
[11:54] <spling> ok
[11:54] <spling> i'll try it again
[11:54] <MisterFarts> if he was a seasoned developer, he'd know what questions to ask and would find the answers pretty quickly
[11:54] <spling> I'll be back if it doesnt work LOL
[11:54] <mommer> MisterFarts: well, whatever. So let him get in trouble as he pleases :-)
[11:54] <mommer> that's one way to learn.
[11:54] <MisterFarts> mommer, well he asked what to read
[11:54] <HappyFool> blueblood: the 'make' info pages are pretty good. try 'info make' for more
[11:54] <MisterFarts> K&R is an excellent starting point for C on UNIX
[11:55] <coms> MisterFarts, the readme says that for kernel 2.6 a patch for the touchpads needs to be installed
[11:55] <HappyFool> blueblood: otherwise maybe people on #sdl can give you tips
[11:55] <mommer> I would rather not recomend C anyway, but that's me.
[11:55] <coms> MisterFarts, is there a way of knowing what patches are applyed to the kernel?
[11:55] <blondie> LOL
[11:55] <xunk> hi smbdy can help me to connect to a public wifi ... ? i can't since I installed wpa_supplicant (which indeed work on my WPA router at home, but now work ONLY on my router)
[11:55] <blondie> mommer: VB instead?
[11:55] <MisterFarts> coms, it sounds like the patch is already there
[11:56] <MisterFarts> let me check the howto
[11:56] <coms> MisterFarts, the howti doesn't say anything about the patch
[11:56] <MisterFarts> coms, where does the howto say antyhing about the patch ?
[11:57] <MisterFarts> coms, if the howto doesn't say antyhing about the patch it's probably beause you don't need any patch
[11:57] <ion> hi guys
[11:57] <MisterFarts> coms: ***The Synaptics Touchpad driver is already installed in Warty, but it seems it's not activated.***
[11:57] <coms> MisterFarts, well the patch is for ALPS (smth to do with touchpads i think) in the kernel... so the howto might be ok for kernel 2.4.. but not for 2.6
[11:57] <MisterFarts> there's your answer right there
[11:58] <MisterFarts> coms, i really doubt that ubuntu driver support would regress from one distribution to the next
[11:58] <MisterFarts> coms, i HIGHLY DOUBT that you need to patch the kernel
[11:59] <coms> MisterFarts, ok i understand, however It's not that the touchpad doesn't work.. it's just that it doesn't listen to it's configuration
[11:59] <MisterFarts> coms: did you do everything that the HOWTO said to do ?
[11:59] <coms> MisterFarts, when i try to desactivate the Tap-Click, it just keeps it active
[11:59] <coms> MisterFarts,  yes.. i have the same stuff in my xorg.conf
[11:59] <ion> I couldn't upgrade my system properly somebody can help to sort out my problem ?
[12:00] <MisterFarts> coms, did you restart your X server ?
[12:00] <ion> please
[12:00] <coms> MisterFarts, btw.. what's the easiest way of restarting x?
[12:00] <coms> MisterFarts, i have restarted it since changing yes
[12:00] <MisterFarts> coms: control-alt-backspace
[12:00] <coms> MisterFarts,  i tryed that once and everything just went black.. and didnt restart
[12:01] <HappyFool> ion: give us some details; maybe someone can help
[12:01] <coms> MisterFarts,  doesn't matter..
[12:01] <MisterFarts> coms: maybe xdm isn't set to respawn
[12:01] <MisterFarts> coms, or you were on the wrong console
[12:01] <coms> MisterFarts, and how do i do that
[12:01] <coms> MisterFarts, how do i tell xdm to respawn?
[12:01] <ion> HappyFool: I gonna post on the postbin right ?
[12:01] <HappyFool> gdm normally restarts
[12:01] <HappyFool> ion: that would be best
[12:01] <MisterFarts> coms, it's generally set in /etc/inittab
[12:02] <coms> MisterFarts, ok.. it's just a thing that's "off" that i need to change to "on"?
[12:02] <MisterFarts> man inittab
[12:02] <coms> k
[12:03] <stratovarius> hey all
[12:03] <HappyFool> MisterFarts: i don't think gdm is directly respawned by inittab in ubuntu; it's not mentioned in inittab
[12:04] <MisterFarts> HappyFool, that's what i said
[12:04] <HappyFool> err, by init, at least
[12:04] <robotgeek> MisterFarts: gdm starts from /etc/init.d, which of course adds it to the run-level (i figure)
[12:04] <MisterFarts> robotgeek, init.d won't respawn
[12:05] <stratovarius> guys I have several problems with the opening of my web pages. they opens veeeeery slow.I have a dsl connection and I found this problem with breezy and not with hoary.what can the problem be?
[12:05] <coms> MisterFarts, HappyFool do i just add the tty7 in the list to respawn.. coz there's a list up to tty6?
[12:05] <robotgeek> MisterFarts: hmm, true
[12:05] <HappyFool> coms: i wouldn't fiddle inittab if i were you
[12:05] <MisterFarts> coms, no, you add the gdm program to the list
[12:05] <coms> HappyFool, :)
[12:05] <HappyFool> coms: unless you have seriously mucked around, it should Just Work
[12:06] <MisterFarts> coms, although i would heed HappyFool's advice
[12:06] <coms> MisterFarts, ok.. and the numbers in front of respawn
[12:06] <MisterFarts> coms, read the manpage
[12:06] <stratovarius> may no one help me?
[12:06] <MisterFarts> it's all explained in detail there
[12:06] <MisterFarts> stratovarius, what's the question
[12:06] <stratovarius> guys I have several problems with the opening of my web pages. they opens veeeeery slow.I have a dsl connection and I found this problem with breezy and not with hoary.what can the problem be?
[12:07] <MisterFarts> stratovarius, there is some stuff in the FAQ about speeding up firefox
[12:07] <MisterFarts> stratovarius, is it a firefox problem or a network problem ?
[12:07] <HappyFool> coms: /etc/init.d/gdm has a comment 'sleep until gdm dies, then restart it 16jul2000' -- i think that script handles gdm restarting (though i can't see how)
[12:08] <MisterFarts> HappyFool, it's probably an infinite loop
[12:08] <stratovarius> MisterFarts I think it a ff problem cuz other pcs in my house work with no problems
[12:08] <MisterFarts> stratovarius, read the FAQ then
[12:08] <CosmoDad> stratovarius: I'd try figuring out if the slowness can be observed with a different OS as well..
[12:08] <coms> HappyFool, so i just leave the inittab?
[12:09] <HappyFool> coms: i would ;)
[12:09] <CosmoDad> stratovarius: and for a quick shot: did some network configurations change, like DNS server?
[12:09] <coms> HappyFool, MisterFarts well i'll restart it now..  and see what happens :)
[12:09] <HappyFool> coms: hang on
[12:09] <CosmoDad> stratovarius: if you suspect Firefox to be responsible, try Nautilus or Konqueror
[12:09] <MisterFarts> HappyFool, i dont see anything in that script that would cause gdm to respawn ...
[12:09] <HappyFool> coms: if it does break, switch to a console (alt-f1 or ctl-alt-f1), login and run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[12:10] <stratovarius> CosmoDad: i dont tink its a dns problem
[12:10] <stratovarius> i changed nothing
[12:10] <HappyFool> MisterFarts: me either. but it does -- try it ;)
[12:10] <coms> HappyFool,  ok thanks
[12:10] <coms> HappyFool,  and it'll restart in the tty7?
[12:10] <CosmoDad> stratovarius: Firefox allows you to see which part of page loading is currently active through the status bar... does the DNS resolution come up quickly but the data transfers lags?
[12:11] <MisterFarts> HappyFool, maybe it's in start-stop-daemon ...
[12:11] <HappyFool> coms: i think when gdm starts it takes over the console. i'm not sure if tty7 is the correct terminology for where X is running, but something like that
[12:11] <stratovarius> CosmoDad: I dont kow what u want to know cuz my problem is a temporary problem which solved by itself
[12:12] <stratovarius> CosmoDad: to solve the problem I ususally restart X and it works good =|
[12:12] <CosmoDad> stratovarius: I didn't read that
[12:12] <MisterFarts> HappyFool, it seems to be handled by the start-stop-daemon program
[12:12] <HappyFool> MisterFarts: quite possibly. a twisty maze of shell scripts, all different
[12:13] <ion> HappyFool: is already there I had made some mistakes on the screenshots sequece but I think you ganna understad....
[12:13] <coms> HappyFool, :) ok
[12:14] <MisterFarts> HappyFool, yeah, it supports "scheduling"
[12:14] <MisterFarts> HappyFool, basically it will poll every specified interval to check for  a certain state change
[12:14] <CosmoDad> stratovarius: strange problem.. maybe you wann check all active network programs, using netstat fr instance, and some network traffic monitor
[12:14] <CosmoDad> stratovarius: and compare CPU usage between laggy and non-laggy scenarios
[12:14] <HappyFool> ion: erk. my connection is a malfunctioning dial-up modem. i'll let you know when the first screenshot has downloaded ;)
[12:15] <stratovarius> CosmoDad: i think I'm not able to do what u said :D
[12:16] <CosmoDad> stratovarius: the tools you want are netstat, ps, and top, for the network monitor I'd look for something GUI-like
[12:16] <switchcat> ugh. :( im getting sick of this.  Is there an ubuntu Network based install process?
[12:16] <ion> HappyFool : rigth I had download all the packages but I couldn't upgrade the system well....
[12:16] <CosmoDad> stratovarius: if I had time I might guide you but I need to be off in some minutes and can only recommend the man-pages to you
[12:16] <MisterFarts> switchcat, eh ?
[12:16] <stratovarius> CosmoDad: dont worry tnx a lot
[12:17] <ion> HappyFool:so...what you think is it..??
[12:17] <switchcat> mister - like using a very basic system to download all the installation files from the net instead of from a cd..
[12:17] <switchcat> my cds for whatever reason arnt working
[12:17] <HappyFool> ion: still downloading the screenshot...
[12:17] <MisterFarts> switchcat, you could do a "server" install and get everything else via apt-get
[12:18] <ion> HappyFool: no I stopped
[12:18] <MisterFarts> switchcat, there's only 1 cd anyway ...
[12:18] <runedude3> hey all
[12:18] <LathropWells> I Love Ubuntu! :)
[12:18] <switchcat> misterfarts - I'm doing a server install, it is having problems on various parts..
[12:18] <laga> LathropWells: me too.
[12:18] <MisterFarts> switchcat, i don't think there is a full network install
[12:18] <switchcat> so far I've got four coasters. :(
[12:18] <ion> HappyFool: because you told me having a problem with your connection...
[12:18] <runedude3> I commend the ubuntu developers for doing a really good job on ubuntu, but I am just not happy with my 64bit installation. Is there anyway to downgrade to a 32bit installation without having to format?
[12:18] <MisterFarts> switchcat, debian used to have  one though
[12:18] <HappyFool> ion: stopped what?
[12:18] <MisterFarts> switchcat, took 4 floppies airc
[12:19] <MisterFarts> i think everyone pretty much assumes that you have a working CD nowadays :)
[12:19] <ion> HappyFool:to download it and try to explain here...
[12:19] <switchcat> I do have a working cd but cant seem to write a cd that ubuntu likes for whatever reason. :'(
[12:19] <MisterFarts> switchcat, i don't think it's ubuntu
[12:20] <MisterFarts> switchcat, either the file is corrupted or your burner is junk
[12:20] <robotgeek> switchcat: or you should trying burning at a lower speed
[12:20] <nalioth> switchcat: ubuntu cds seem to like being burnt as slowly as possible
[12:20] <MisterFarts> yeah, the CDs could be junk too :)
[12:20] <switchcat> I downloaded it twice two separate ways, it could be with the fact that my burner is burning too fast but the program I currently have isn't changing the speed of the burner, even when I change it in the system preferences
[12:20] <LathropWells> switchcat - is it making a bootable disk or just copying an iso file to disk?
[12:21] <switchcat> I've used two or three different brands of cds
[12:21] <switchcat> lathrop - they've all been bootable
[12:21] <MisterFarts> switchcat, get something that supports various burn speeds
[12:21] <MisterFarts> switchcat, i believe nero does
[12:21] <LathropWells> Okay. - :/
[12:21] <MisterFarts> you can get a demo for free airc
[12:21] <HappyFool> ion: what did you do to upgrade? did you follow the instructions on the wiki? (here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade)
[12:21] <switchcat> misterfarts - any suggestions for a freely available iso burner for windows(xp)?
[12:21] <MisterFarts> switchcat, try nero
[12:22] <LathropWells> sure free  isoburner powertoy by alex feinman
[12:22] <eedge> Thanks nalioth :)
[12:22] <eedge> oh...
[12:22] <eedge> did I say something mean or something?
[12:22] <MisterFarts> switchcat, i don't know much about windows burners
[12:22] <LathropWells> burn for free (ad supported)
[12:23] <ion> HappyFool: well I went to this chat yestarday, jenda and serveis tyed to help me that's it...
[12:24] <ion> HappyFlool: so I followed the istruction which they gave me....
[12:24] <kaschei> helo, I just installed ubuntu, but when I get to the login my keyboard is no longer working... I can use it as late as the grub menu, but when the login screen appears I can't type
[12:25] <kaschei> does anyone know a solution to this problem?
[12:25] <HappyFool> ion: what instructions were those?
[12:26] <kaschei> it's a usb/wireless logitech keyboard
[12:27] <kaschei> I used it in debian without issue and it still works fine from knoppix
[12:29] <ion> HappyFool: well before I was struggling to install a lots of pasckages because my sudo doesn't work well I was using hoary 5.04 and then servis told me to upgrade the system for breedy...I used sudo commands to do that......
[12:29] <m|k> hey while installing ubuntu i get an error saying that it was unable to install some of the packages at 83% how can i install the missing packages?
[12:30] <ion> HappyFool: so now some parts is upgraded but not  the entire system......you know.....
[12:30] <mahangu> what's the best tool for ubuntu to interface with my ipod shuffle
[12:30] <nalioth> mahangu: gtkpod
[12:31] <laga> i wonder if gtkpod actually supports the shuffle.
[12:31] <mahangu> nalioth, righto, just apt-getting that :)
[12:31] <mahangu> laga, ive heard it does
[12:31] <mahangu> laga, afaik the ipod family uses the same file format
[12:31] <mahangu> ?
[12:31] <mahangu> im not sure of 5g and nano
[12:31] <mahangu> but the rest do, I think
[12:31] <laga> mahangu: the ipod shuffle is just a mass storage device, imho.
[12:31] <mahangu> laga, you can select either option
[12:32] <laga> oh, sorry. it supports the shuffle i'll shut up now :)
[12:32] <mahangu> laga, in any case ill let you know in a minute
[12:32] <mahangu> oh ok
[12:32] <musik> where is that file which automounted win partitions in hoary plz????????/
[12:33] <mahangu> musik, fstab?
[12:34] <[nige] > anyone been able to get gmail via fetchmail?
[12:34] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell musik about windowsdrives
[12:34] <switchcat> lathrop - looks good, thanks... lets hope it works. :)
[12:34] <robotgeek> [nige] : yup
[12:35] <[nige] > i have exim as my mta
[12:35] <jareth_> [nige] : yep
[12:35] <musik> mahangu: no no...that piece of program....which automatically detected all win partitions and mounted them....winmac or something...it was like easyubuntu
[12:35] <[nige] > is it easy enough to do or do I have hack around abit?
[12:35] <jareth_> [nige] : getting mail works well for me
[12:35] <ion> HappyFool: ?
[12:35] <robotgeek> [nige] : pretty easy. i can put up my fetchmailrc for ya
[12:36] <[nige] > robotgeek,  that would be cool, i would love to see
[12:36] <[nige] > I am currently using SASL2 authentication to send
[12:36] <[nige] > I just want to be able to get all my mail in 1 location
[12:38] <m|k> hey while installing ubuntu i get an error saying that it was unable to install some of the packages at 83% how can i install the missing packages?
[12:38] <nalioth> m|k: fron a cd?
[12:38] <ion> anyone up to help me ??
[12:38] <ion> plase
[12:38] <robotgeek> [nige] : paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4469
[12:39] <m|k> nalioth: put the cd in and then what?
[12:39] <robotgeek> [nige] : are you following the nice guide?
[12:39] <[nige] > cheers i am go have alook
[12:39] <mahangu_> laga, imma getting errors
[12:39] <mahangu_> :)
[12:39] <nalioth> m|k: are you using a cd to install?
[12:40] <robotgeek> [nige] : http://souptonuts.sourceforge.net/postfix_tutorial.html
[12:40] <ion> hi guys I got problem with my OS a
[12:40] <[nige] > thats in  .fetchmailrc
[12:40] <andersonfda> hi
[12:40] <m|k> nalioth: well im using an iso image, from VMware under windows xp
[12:40] <robotgeek> [nige] : yup, correct
[12:40] <[nige] > okay
[12:40] <[nige] > let me go stick this in
[12:40] <[nige] > I will let you know how it goes
[12:40] <nalioth> m|k: check the iso image integrity
[12:40] <nalioth> ubuntu: tell m|k about verify
[12:41] <robotgeek> [nige] : you might want to skip the postfix smtp part, and use nbsmtp
[12:41] <[nige] > okay
[12:41] <andersonfda> im tring to install printers in my ubuntu but they are installed and i cant print the jobs are there but dont start
[12:41] <kaschei> I just installed ubuntu, and my keyboard stops working before I can log-in... GRUB responds to keyboard input but gdm does not.  It's a usb keyboard on a very old motherboard, does anyone know of a fix for this?
[12:41] <ion> well I tryed to install update my system to breezy but something went wrong........
[12:41] <robotgeek> [nige] : i use postfix tho, cause i spend so much time configuring it. it works much easier with nbsmtp + mutt
[12:42] <ion> I mean update
[12:42] <[nige] > hmm
[12:42] <jimcooncat> I'm lost trying to get a US Robotics/3com PCI Modem to work. How can I tell if it's attached to /dev/modem?
[12:42] <[nige] > I am using exim4+courier-imap+fetchmail
[12:42] <m|k> nalioth: can you tell me about verify?
[12:42] <m|k> kaschei: do you have a usb to ps2 converter that you could try?
[12:42] <robotgeek> [nige] : just for gmail? or you have a bigger setup to worry about?
[12:42] <[nige] > messages are sent with the use of exim4 + tls, so it generates my certificate
[12:43] <[nige] > everyting works
[12:43] <[nige] > I just want to get my gmail on my server
[12:43] <musik> how do i mount my ext2 hda6 partition.....plz help??
[12:43] <nalioth> m|k: ubotu just did
[12:43] <robotgeek> [nige] : i had issues with the certificate part (or so i thought). it turned out that i was using the wrong password!
[12:43] <nalioth> m|k: look to your private msgs
[12:43] <[nige] > fair enough
[12:43] <[nige] > :)
[12:43] <[nige] > if I already have a certifcate
[12:44] <[nige] > do I still need to generate one?
[12:44] <mahangu_> nalioth, the gtkpod has a long HOWTO including installing hotplug - if my ipod is picked up by nautilus i can safely disregard that, cant I?>
[12:44] <lesshaste> when you install ubuntu on a machine that was windows there already does it automatically sort out the dual boot for you?
[12:44] <nalioth> mahangu_: yes
[12:44] <mahangu_> lesshaste, in most  cases, yes
[12:44] <[nige] > I dont want to send via gmail is all
[12:44] <nalioth> lesshaste: yes it does
[12:44] <lesshaste> mahangu_: cool thx
[12:45] <lesshaste> is there a built in ntfs resizer in the boot cd?
[12:45] <nalioth> lesshaste: yes there is
[12:45] <lesshaste> thx ;)
[12:45] <robotgeek> [nige] : getting gmail, you just need the certificates for google and thwate, i believe
[12:45] <[nige] > so that requires a recreating  right
[12:46] <m|k> nalioth: i have no privat messages, i just turned off unfilterd messages so if ubotu can send that again?
[12:46] <robotgeek> [nige] : nope, you just need to download those from the soupnuts site, i guess
[12:47] <[nige] > okay
[12:47] <nalioth> m|k: unfiltered messages? ubotu is registered
[12:47] <lukes> I'm trying install ubuntu but am not having much luck: it doesn't detect my wireless ethernet card at the 'detect network hardware' step. is this bad?
[12:47] <m|k> nalioth: well i dont have any messages
[12:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell m|k about verify
[12:48] <m|k> nalioth: cheers i got this time round
[12:48] <lukes> folks? little help...
[12:48] <ThJ> hey, libclamav1 wants libgmp3 but it's been replaced by other packages. how do i fix it?
[12:49] <robotgeek> [nige] : while you are there, download the cert.pem certificate too.
[12:49] <[nige] > hmm okay
[12:49] <[nige] > okay
[12:49] <ufk> is there a 64 bit livecd for ubuntu?
[12:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lukes about wireless
[12:49] <[nige] > ahyways
[12:49] <ThJ> the other packages are installed but libclamav1 doesn't want them.
[12:49] <[nige] > I need to go
[12:49] <[nige] > thanks for all the help
[12:49] <robotgeek> [nige] : later
[12:49] <[nige] > have a good day / evening
[12:49] <[nige] > cya
[12:50] <ThJ> how do i tell apt-get to force the package to install despite dependencies?
[12:52] <lukes> thx nalioth
[12:52] <bigfoot1> is there a program that converts midi files to mp3?
[12:52] <emurz> hey, after I mounted my ntfs partitions it says that I cannot open the folders in /media/ because I do not have permission, how can I fix this?
[12:52] <nalioth> bigfoot1: search in synaptic for 'midi'
[12:53] <nalioth> emurz: give it permission
[12:53] <emurz> nalioth, how?
[12:53] <MisterFarts> emurz, if you want regular users to have permission for ntfs i believe it's a mount option
[12:53] <bellhurry> ??
[12:54] <nalioth> emurz: open a terminal and type "man fstab"
[12:54] <emurz> MisterFarts, there is no root
[12:54] <MisterFarts> emurz, sure there is
[12:54] <nalioth> emurz: under no circumstances, make your ntfs read/write
[12:54] <emurz> MisterFarts, it's disabled
[12:54] <MisterFarts> emurz, so enable it
[12:54] <MisterFarts> emurz: sudo su
[12:54] <MisterFarts> emile, passwd
[12:54] <nalioth> MisterFarts: dont do that
[12:54] <nalioth> emurz: dont do that
[12:55] <emurz> MisterFarts, I'm quite happy with my user
[12:55] <MisterFarts> nalioth, there's nothing wrong with enabling root
[12:55] <nalioth> MisterFarts: that is not his problem, and dont suggest sudo su, it's redundant and dangerous
[12:55] <switchcat> current problem: "an error was returned hile trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system"
[12:55] <nalioth> MisterFarts: join #ubuntu-offtopic please and we'll discuss
[12:55] <nalioth> emurz: in your fstab you need to change the permissions
[12:56] <emurz> I put umask=00
[12:56] <^Orpheus^> hello, I just installed the newest version of Ubuntu and I seem to have troubles getting X working. Some error saying "no screens found". I probably don;t have installed my video card right, but I can't seem to get that correct. I would appreciate some advise, but have to say this is the first time ever I am installing a Linux dist
[12:57] <duke> /etc/X11/xorg.config
[12:57] <switchcat> argh, I think I'm gonna have to try another distro. :(
[12:57] <duke> correct the file   ;)
[12:57] <duke> gentoo!!!
[12:57] <duke> ^^
[12:57] <nalioth> emurz: another 0 there, (you need 3 000)
[12:57] <robotgeek> ^Orpheus^: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:58] <duke> http://ipods.freepay.com/?r=24930002
[12:58] <unu> hello
[12:59] <unu> anyone around here using openbox?
[12:59] <robotgeek> unu: yeah, why?
[01:00] <^Orpheus^> duke: may sound stupid, but I am the dir you say, but what should I command should I use to be abled to correct it *blushes*
[01:00] <xophEr> Hi! What could be wrong; my computer freezes when I leave it unattended for a longer while.. like over night.. In all the logs everything is normal, but then suddenly stops.. Using Breezy
[01:01] <unu> robotgeek: i there anyway of restricting some screen areas?
[01:01] <robotgeek> unu: restricting?
[01:01] <unu> i don't know how it's called, i don't want it over some apps like fbpanel
[01:01] <Silencer> ppl please tell me how to setup my clock
[01:01] <unu> maybe another app which does this
[01:01] <unu> don't really now how it's called
[01:01] <unu> like: 30 px from the top of the screen
[01:01] <Silencer> I setup time and timezone my clock after some time go 3 minutes fast and timezone is changed :(
[01:02] <robotgeek> unu: hmm, i am not quite sure. take a look at devilspie, it might be in there
[01:02] <emurz> nalioth, do you know how can I enable my 5.1ch stereo system?
[01:02] <unu> i know of devilspie :| but it's gonna be a battle uphill with it - i might as well use fvwm :)
[01:02] <unu> thx for the idea though
[01:02] <nalioth> emurz: i have 0 clue
[01:02] <nalioth> ubotu: tell emurz about sound
[01:05] <unu> robotgeek: solved it - xftaskbar can hold its own :) it doesn't allow maximized apps to go over it
[01:06] <ceej> anyone been able to get limewire to work?
[01:06] <robotgeek> unu: i just use the gnome-panel, and gnome..openbox is my wm tho
[01:06] <Boobek> re
[01:06] <unu> bye everyone
[01:07] <m|k> nalioth: allright ive got the md5 sum but i dont have anything to compare it with?
[01:08] <nalioth> m|k: visit the webpage you d/l the iso from. see md5sums
[01:09] <m|k> naloith: thats for 5.04 ive got 5.10
[01:09] <nalioth> m|k: the md5sums exist for all of them, look around up the tree
[01:12] <LathropWells> HiddenFly,     No sound with Tux Racer/Planet Penguin Racer - any hints/links?
[01:12] <LathropWells> Hello*
[01:12] <HiddenFly> LathropWells: watch it...
[01:13] <bellhurry_> Hello
[01:14] <LathropWells> "Hi,"  - becane HiddenFly - sorry.
[01:14] <bellhurry_> Hello Every One
[01:14] <Bols> LathropWells, try to install libsdl1.2debian-alsa
[01:14] <LathropWells> Hi<space>,
[01:14] <LathropWells> Ah great! - Thank You.
[01:14] <switchcat> apparently there are options for netbooting but I cant make heads or tails of them right now. :(
[01:15] <switchcat> er, net installing that is
[01:17] <k1m> how to get VLC on ubuntu .. apt-get ?
[01:17] <nalioth> k1m: enable universe and multiverse repos
[01:18] <Hobbsee> !repos
[01:18] <ubotu> methinks repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[01:18] <xaint> hi all...
[01:18] <k1m> nalioth: ? (noob)
[01:18] <laga> !easysource
[01:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:18] <Bols> !mp3
[01:18] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:18] <Hobbsee> k1m: read the !repos above
[01:18] <nalioth> ubotu: tell k1m about repos
[01:18] <blueblood> Are there any more configurable virtual desktop module for gnome then the one wich ships with ubuntu?
[01:18] <Heroin> re all
[01:18] <LathropWells> switchcat - switchcat this looks like a good walkthrough for a net install https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot
[01:19] <Heroin> hallo everyone.. i  have a qeustion
[01:19] <bigfoot1> gaim is nice, but can it do searches for online people? Or do a "I'm free to chat and would like to search for other free people" ?
[01:19] <Heroin> could some one help me
[01:19] <k1m> thx
[01:19] <switchcat> lathrop - yes there are a few different pages on netbooting but they mean nothing to me at this moment.
[01:19] <nalioth> blueblood: kde?
[01:19] <kitsch> hello. for a few days, ubuntu has been behaving really weird. when my computer has been running for a day or so, i get some messages from azureus that says it failed to write to some files (downloads.config and such) because of READ-ONLY file system. at that point, i can't write to any files on any of my hdds, and have to reboot. anyone have an idea on how to solve this?
[01:19] <Magic07> installed everything on imac g5 went great...boots to login screen but wont let me input user...any ideas
[01:19] <blueblood> No, not gnome itself, I just mean the panel
[01:19] <Heroin> ... is everyone busy with helping people or can i ask something?
[01:20] <rixth> I'm so torn. I can have two 256mb Memory Sticks for $110 or one 512mb for $125. Hmmm. What to take?!
[01:20] <mahangu_> Heroin, just ask
[01:20] <robotgeek> Heroin: go right ahead
[01:20] <mahangu_> rixth, that is for #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:20] <Heroin> Rixth take the single 512
[01:20] <laga> funny thing: totem can't play raw video in an avi container.
[01:20] <switchcat> rixth - uh doesn't it depends upon what type of system you have set up?
[01:21] <Heroin> Robotgeek.. i have an old Dell latitude XPi.. and the bios doesnt allouw CD startup... only floppy and HD.. now what?
[01:21] <robotgeek> Heroin: net-install, probably. there's a howto on the wiki
[01:21] <Heroin> net install involves a network?
[01:21] <Heroin> hehehe there is no network ether
[01:22] <Heroin> only an old dailup card
[01:22] <robotgeek> Heroin: ahh..got me there!
[01:22] <Heroin> =]  beat j0o
[01:22] <Trackilizer> Is it only me, or is Firefox really sl
[01:22] <Trackilizer> slow*
[01:22] <switchcat> I cant believe ubuntu is so unforgiving of fast ISO burns... :(
[01:22] <Heroin> but damnsmalllinux had a floppy which activated teh CD or something
[01:22] <Coburn> why my icewm dont save configuration when i quit from session
[01:23] <Trackilizer> I don't mean the time it takes to load a webpage, i mean the time it takes you to scrowl down the bookmarks for example.
[01:23] <britishseapower> am lovin ubuntu...v easy to use...one thing...how do i install gkrellm2 to monitor my server?
[01:23] <Heroin> Robotgeek.. u know what minimal specs for ubunto are.. couldnt find them and i think my laptop doent meet requirements
[01:24] <robotgeek> Heroin: it's there on the wiki too, the minimum specs
[01:24] <Heroin> could u link me cuz i was unable to find it
[01:24] <Heroin> maby bill deleted it..
[01:24] <xaint> heroin: if you use another windows manager, f.e. blackbox, you will get more ugly and uncomfortable enviroment, but much , much faster!!!
[01:25] <xaint> i use it for games.
[01:25] <Heroin> urm well that dell.. lets just say it runs 96 in 800x600..
[01:25] <robotgeek> Heroin: looking it up now
[01:25] <Heroin> 95*
[01:25] <xaint> f.e. americas army, RTCW-ET is *much* faster than win version :-)))
[01:25] <Heroin> and windows 95 kinda SUX..
[01:25] <Heroin> xaint.. i dont have enough HD for the AA installer..
[01:25] <Heroin> 1.33GB
[01:26] <britishseapower> am lovin ubuntu...v easy to use...one thing...how do i install gkrellm2 to monitor my server?
[01:26] <Heroin> 150MHZ!!1
[01:26] <Hobbsee> !info gkrellm2
[01:26] <Hobbsee> !info gkrellm
[01:26] <nalioth> britishseapower: server?
[01:26] <ubotu> gkrellm: (multiple stacked system monitors: 1 process [client] ), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.2.7-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 388 kB, Installed size: 956 kB
[01:26] <Coburn85> why my icewm dont save configuration when i quit from session????
[01:26] <nalioth> britishseapower: you can use conky also
[01:26] <xaint> heroin: hm... i am beginner too it was only idea...
[01:27] <nalioth> !info conky
[01:27] <ubotu> conky: (highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1.3.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 84 kB, Installed size: 292 kB
[01:27] <ookami> anyone know how to edit the TVTIME config file? or where it may be? i set mirror mode and I cant seem to remove that setting the app closes immediatly after opening.
[01:27] <Heroin> hehe xaint :D its just a lot of people dont release how bad it was in 1996
[01:27] <Heroin> 150MHZ 48MB RAM... 1.0MB vid card
[01:27] <Coburn85> someone tell me some thing please??
[01:28] <xaint> i have question about root account, but not the usual one! I have root pasword set, but it works only with sudo....
[01:28] <Heroin> Coburn chck ur settings/
[01:28] <britishseapower> nalioth: client .
[01:28] <britishseapower> also skype.
[01:28] <britishseapower> is that available for ubuntu
[01:28] <Heroin> well i think iam going to use damnsmalllinux.. cuz ubunto probally wont run
[01:28] <robotgeek> Heroin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseNotes?highlight=%28minimum%29
[01:28] <Heroin> thx robot
[01:29] <Heroin> lets see..
[01:29] <ookami> where are programs installed in ubuntu? im looking for TVTIME config file...
[01:30] <xaint> for example: synaptic refuses my root passwd. but when i log with su as root, and run synaptic from commandline, works well. What can be problem?
[01:30] <lsuactiafner> its stuckup
[01:30] <Habbie> xaint, synaptic needs your password, not roots
[01:30] <Heroin> i only have 48MB of ram.. which is less then the server profile
[01:30] <Seveas> !tell xaint about root
[01:30] <lsuactiafner> Heroin : i have 42mb
[01:30] <lsuactiafner> wow actually 44
[01:30] <lsuactiafner> cmeme:            44         43          1          0          4          7
[01:31] <britishseapower> so how do install gkrellm client, skype and also bluefish webeditor - are auto installers available ?
[01:31] <Plaf> i need a trojan/virus scanner asap
[01:31] <lsuactiafner> britishseapower : apt-cache search app_name
[01:31] <Seveas> britishseapower, gkrellm and bluefish are in universe
[01:31] <nalioth> xaint: ubuntu is not designed for use with a root account
[01:31] <lsuactiafner> apt-get install app_name
[01:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell xaint about root
[01:31] <Seveas> !tell britishseapower about universe
[01:31] <Seveas> !tell britishseapower about skype
[01:31] <ceej> does ubuntu players now play mp3's?
[01:32] <ceej> not*
[01:32] <nubbe> ookami, do a search from /
[01:32] <lsuactiafner> nalioth : i use it with root.. works well
[01:32] <Seveas> !no universe is <reply> see repositories
[01:32] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[01:32] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic please, we're having a root party
[01:32] <nubbe> ookami, they might be in /etc or even ur home-dir hidden
[01:32] <nubbe> ookami, in
[01:33] <ceej> can i not play mp3 files on ubuntu?!
[01:33] <xaint> okay, thanks :-)
[01:33] <laga> !mp3
[01:33] <ubotu> well, mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:33] <laga> (i like this bot)
[01:33] <xaint> ceej: you can... just install software :-)
[01:33] <jestarius> hello
[01:34] <lsuactiafner> root party sounds dangerous
[01:34] <ceej> xaint: what one do i need to install?
[01:34] <xaint> nalioth: thanks, i read those faq. but when i tried to run update manager or synaptic with my password, it just dont start. synaptic doesnot start. etc...
[01:34] <xaint> ceej: xmms for example.
[01:35] <xaint> ceej: apt-get install xmms i think...
[01:35] <ceej> xaint: thanks just doing it :)
[01:35] <nalioth> xaint: what errors do you get? (dont paste in here)
[01:36] <mommer> hi, if i try to open files copied over from windoze wit hopen office, it says that the file doesn't exist "(invalid encoding)". Any ideas?
[01:36] <xaint> nalioth: no errors. simply screen fades and thats all.
[01:36] <nalioth> xaint: how do you start synaptic?
[01:36] <Tony_Sidaway> robotgeek, you there?  I would like to see if someone could perform dpkg -S /etc/xmodmap.conf and report the package name.
[01:37] <robotgeek> Tony_Sidaway: it's xmodmap
[01:37] <Tony_Sidaway> Thanks
[01:37] <robotgeek> Tony_Sidaway: apt-cache search xmodmap pulls it up, and it's in main
[01:38] <xaint> nalioth: upper menu, system->something->synaptic. (i have czech version). i thint thats default way...
[01:38] <x_line> xaint: look in system>administration and it should be there
[01:38] <ceej> anyone know why i can't control the volume levels, its either on:loud or off
[01:38] <xaint> x_line: thats it.
[01:38] <x_line> xaint: it should ask you for you're password
[01:38] <xaint> thats what i launch. it asks for password and fades. and cant launch it again.
[01:39] <xaint> x_line: asked first.
[01:39] <nalioth> xaint: try alt-f2 >gksudo synaptic
[01:39] <Tony_Sidaway> robotgeek, reinstalled xmodmap but still no sign of the config file.
[01:39] <Tony_Sidaway> robotgeek, I'll go poking around in the innards to see if it's there.
[01:39] <xaint> nalioth: nothing :-((( fades away and nothing :-(
[01:40] <robotgeek> Tony_Sidaway: look in the examples directory, or i can pastebin mine
[01:40] <nalioth> xaint: does apt-get work?
[01:40] <x_line> xaint: does it even give you a chance to enter the password
[01:41] <xaint> nalioth: no.
[01:41] <nalioth> xaint: what does it do?
[01:41] <xaint> x_line: asked me first time. I entered password. and thats last what i have seel asking for password.
[01:41] <x_line> xaint: are you using breezy
[01:42] <xaint> x_line breezy, yes.
[01:42] <pl_ice> heya
[01:42] <robotgeek> Tony_Sidaway: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4470
[01:42] <xaint> nalioth: moment, translating, error is in czech too :-)
[01:42] <Tony_Sidaway> robotgeek, cheers
[01:43] <pl_ice> nalioth where u from?
[01:43] <robotgeek> Tony_Sidaway: just remove the  weird stuff i put in there. or better, use it :)
[01:43] <nalioth> pl_ice: join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:44] <samourai> Hello everybody, I'm a newbie in ubuntu's world
[01:44] <pl_ice> :/ forgive me, i'm drunk ;)
[01:44] <ceej> how come i can control the volume for Gaim and other things but with XMS i can only have it really loud or not at all?!
[01:45] <xaint> nalioth: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4471
[01:45] <robotgeek> ceej: output plugin, check for volume control related stuff, in advanced tab
[01:45] <ceej> robotgeek: what in XMS?
[01:45] <robotgeek> ceej: yes
[01:45] <nalioth> xaint: close all your instances of apt-get and synaptic
[01:45] <xaint> and thanks all who tried to help me. i looked to documentation, but all about root account is what i dont need or what i tried.
[01:46] <chicken-man> When I try mount my CD-ROM drive I get this error: No medium found.
[01:46] <xaint> nalioth: closed, but maybe any process can be still launched. mom, i will try to kill them.
[01:47] <ceej> robotgeek: by changing what lol clicked everything still the same lol
[01:47] <robotgeek> ceej: there should be something called 'Volume Controls not PCM'
[01:48] <chicken-man> When I try mount my CD-ROM drive I get this error: No medium found, what does it mean ?
[01:48] <ceej> robotgeek: its ok its working now....thank you :)
[01:48] <nalioth> chicken-man: means your drive is empty
[01:49] <xaint> nalioth : no instance running, no process named synaptic ( ps -ALL tried)
[01:49] <chicken-man> nalioth: My CD-ROM drive is a cd-rw, I put in a empty cd-rw why does it not work ?
[01:50] <hyphenated> chicken-man: probably not formatted
[01:50] <nalioth> chicken-man: you dont need to mount a blank cd-rw, your writing software should take care of it
[01:50] <ceej> ok now XMS has just disaperd when i click main menu LOL
[01:50] <ceej> how do i get it back LOL!!
[01:50] <nalioth> xaint: look for apt-get , dpkg processes
[01:50] <chicken-man> hmmm whats a good KDE tool to write to CD's ?
[01:50] <nalioth> chicken-man: k3b
[01:50] <hyphenated> chicken-man: k3b
[01:50] <robotgeek> chicken-man: k3b
[01:50] <laga> k3b
[01:50] <robotgeek> heh
[01:50] <chicken-man> lol Thanks :-P
[01:51] <hyphenated> :-)
[01:51] <ceej> can anyone tell me how to view XMS i click main menu in the options and it disapered but its still playing!
[01:51] <chicken-man> ceej: kill it
[01:52] <ceej> chicken-man: how?
[01:52] <x_line> can anyone suggest a good on-line tutorial that can take me from c to c++
[01:52] <chicken-man> ceej: ps -U [user] , kill [pid] 
[01:53] <xaint> nalioth: none running...
[01:53] <nalioth> xaint: reboot and come back, ok?
[01:53] <x_line> oops sorry wrong channel
[01:53] <chicken-man> x_line: C++ is the same as C except the OOP, look for a C++ tutorial
[01:53] <xaint> nalioth: okay.
[01:54] <xaint> bye for a while
[01:54] <chicken-man> x_line: http://cprogramming.com
[01:54] <ceej> chicken-man: doesn't work
[01:54] <zyga> hello I've got a problem with recompiled kernel
[01:54] <zyga> I used the same config file as the default i386 kernel has
[01:54] <zyga> but after booting I get
[01:55] <zyga> 'unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)'
[01:55] <Seveas> zyga, did you use make-kpkg and create an initrd?
[01:55] <zyga> and before that: cannot open root device hda1 or unknown block(0,0)
[01:55] <zyga> Seveas: yes
[01:55] <chicken-man> ceej: ps -U [user running program]  | grep [program name] , kill [program number] 
[01:55] <ceej> how do i get the info to do that? :/
[01:56] <chicken-man> ceej: such as "ps -U root | grep kdm", "kill 6200"
[01:56] <Seveas> zyga, and the lines in grub are correct (ie: loading the initrd)
[01:57] <Seveas> and the initrd contains all modules you need?
[01:57] <chicken-man> ceej: the kill number will be where the program is
[01:57] <zyga> Seveas: grub got it's lines after installing the resulting .deb
[01:57] <zyga> Seveas: I'm not sure how to check initrd stuff I'm new to kernel compilation
[01:57] <chicken-man> ceej: such as   6200 ? kdm
[01:58] <ceej> chicken-man i can't see XMS though ;/
[01:59] <chicken-man> ceej: what user are you running it as ?
[01:59] <ceej> ceej
[02:00] <chicken-man> ceej: ps -U ceej | grep xms
[02:00] <ludde`> i want to check if my fw is running, and i forgot the command, " ps -aux |grep firestarter "
[02:01] <chicken-man> ceej: the kill [number]  , number will be on the left of xms
[02:01] <ceej> chicken-man: its still running
[02:01] <kyncani> zyga: the error message means your fs (say reiserfs) is not supported by your kernel, reconfigure your kernel and add support for say reiserfs. And do not make this feature a module.
[02:01] <vbgunz> hello everyone, does anyone have the problem of GAIM windows just minimizing for no apparent reason? I am on Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) and using GAIM 1.5.0
[02:01] <chicken-man> ceej: did you try to kill it ?
[02:01] <mahangu> vbgunz, i have loads of problems with GAIM
[02:01] <zyga> kyncani: okay I've got reiserfs here and the config file is the default ubuntu i386 config
[02:02] <vbgunz> mahangu: thanks for the confirmation :P
[02:02] <ceej> i don't know the number cause i can't see it
[02:02] <zyga> kyncani: is that supposed to happen?
[02:02] <mahangu> vbgunz, im on 5.04 btw
[02:02] <kyncani> zyga: make sure in grub you have your root=/dev/hdX right
[02:02] <vbgunz> mahangu: do windows minimize for no apparent reason?
[02:02] <chicken-man> ceej: what did you start xms with ?
[02:02] <zyga> kyncani: checking, it was set automatically though
[02:03] <zyga> kyncani: it's correct
[02:03] <xophEr> why is wine not installable through apt?
[02:03] <kyncani> zyga: ubuntu set reiserfs as a module, change this and add support directly in kernel
[02:03] <ceej> i went in aplications opend it went into the menu and click main menu button, which i think means it hides the player
[02:03] <mahangu> vbgunz, it hangs, and frequently just "disappears"
[02:03] <ceej> but i can't get it back now....
[02:03] <zyga> kyncani: great, thanks :)
[02:03] <zyga> kyncani: but ... why can I still boot the default kernel okay?
[02:03] <chicken-man> ceej: using KDE or Gnome ?
[02:03] <zyga> kyncani: initramfs?
[02:04] <kyncani> zyga: which default kernel ?
[02:04] <zyga> kyncani: i386
[02:04] <ceej> gnome
[02:04] <chicken-man> ceej: kill gnome that may stop it
[02:06] <zyga> kyncani: /boot/config-2.6.12-9-386
[02:06] <kyncani> zyga: ?? You should have a precompiled ubuntu kernel as a fallback (and you do not touch it), so you can experiment with your own kernel.
[02:06] <ceej> but its an option on XMMS but i don't see how to uncheck it so i can see it again
[02:06] <zyga> kyncani: I do have the default kernel
[02:06] <zyga> kyncani: so for learing I wanted to recompile the default kernelt
[02:06] <zyga> to be sure that it just works and that I didn't break anything
[02:06] <chicken-man> ceej: so you can see it using "ps -U ceej" ?
[02:06] <chicken-man> can't
[02:07] <kyncani> zyga: you should have a working kernel like linux-686 (don't touch it), and your own, built with linux-source-2.6.12
[02:07] <ceej> yes :)
[02:07] <zyga> kyncani: that's what I do
[02:07] <ufk> in the amd64 livecd what's the password for su?
[02:07] <zyga> my kernel has -zyga suffix
[02:08] <zyga> kyncani: I'm asking about this:
[02:08] <chicken-man> ceej: if you see it using ps, kill it
[02:08] <chicken-man> ceej: if you can't kill gnome
[02:08] <zyga> kyncani: how can the default kernel boot the system (it has reiserfs as a module) when the exactly same kernel (built by me from existing config file) cannot
[02:09] <chicken-man> ceej: other than that remove and reinstall it
[02:09] <ceej> chicken-man: thanks that seemed to work :D
[02:09] <ragnar> Has anyone had success with Azalia ALC861 and ubuntu 5.10. It's not listed in the docs for the latest linux drivers, so I'm guessing it's not supported.
[02:09] <chicken-man> ceej: :-)
[02:10] <kyncani> zyga: obviously you've made some error in your initrd setup. But since you're creating a custom kernel; you do not need to use initrd. Initrd is for generic kernels, not for custom-build ones.
[02:10] <zyga> kyncani: how do I setup initrd?
[02:10] <zyga> kyncani: (I did not setup it at all)
[02:11] <kyncani> zyga: start without first. Once you got it working _without_, you can start reading docs about initrd.
[02:11] <ookami> My synaptic package is outputting an error that starts as: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://...........  Any id.ea what this means?
[02:12] <zyga> kyncani: okay... it's building
[02:12] <zyga> kyncani: is it safe to remove something out of the default kernel... it's taking loong to build on smp box :/
[02:13] <ufk> ubuntu livecd amd64 doesn't come with nvidia module?
[02:14] <ufk> how can i login to root with ubuntu livecd ?
[02:14] <zyga> ufk: try sudo
[02:14] <andreasdk> pass: root
[02:15] <andreasdk> Can anyone help me? My sound has gone totally away and I don`t know why
[02:15] <ookami> where do i paste something for someone to check?
[02:16] <spektr> ookami: read the /topic
[02:17] <ookami> ah thanks.
[02:17] <kyncani> zyga: you're building a custom kernel. Nothing is safe, you _will_ make errors. I just hope you can track and correct them :)
[02:17] <andreasdk> Can anyone please help me with my soundproblem?
[02:17] <mahangu> andreasdk, just ask
[02:17] <andreasdk> mahangu: I just did ;-)
[02:17] <veloct> lol
[02:17] <kyncani> zyga: well, it is safe. You will just have kernels not working when you make an error ;)
[02:17] <mahangu> andreasdk, sorry didnt see  - try killall esd
[02:18] <zyga> kyncani: heh, right
[02:18] <andreasdk> mahangu: Even though it has been messed up for a few weeks??
[02:18] <mahangu> andreasdk, try it
[02:18] <andreasdk> Nothing happened.
[02:18] <ookami> synaptic is giving me a warning which i dont quite understand how to correct... see: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4474
[02:20] <Paradoxx> hmm, i'm looking to add another hd to my linux system.... what file system would you recommend? It will mainly jbe for general use, and extra storage. WIll be a 90GB partition
[02:20] <andreasdk> Now I`m getting this error: Failed to play: Could not open resource for writing.
[02:20] <Magic07> installed everything on imac g5 went great...boots to login screen but wont let me input user...any ideas
[02:20] <spektr> ookami: i'm not sure, but maybe refreshing your package list will help
[02:20] <ookami> is that: sudo apt-get update  ?
[02:20] <nalioth> Paradoxx: does windows have a place in your life?
[02:21] <nalioth> Magic07: imac G5s are not supported until dapper
[02:21] <sinizzl> hi
[02:21] <Paradoxx> yea, but its kept to a minimum
[02:21] <spektr> ookami: yes
[02:21] <nalioth> sinizzl: howdy
[02:21] <ookami> thanks spektr. will do.
[02:21] <sinizzl> does anyone know a tool a i can use for burning mp3's to an audio cd ON THE FLY ?
[02:21] <nalioth> Paradoxx: if you are gonna use that space for windows to read/write to, use fat32, otw, use ext3
[02:21] <andreasdk> any suggestions regarding the sound?
[02:21] <zyga> kyncani: is it possible to cross compile the kernel easily?
[02:21] <nalioth> sinizzl: k3b
[02:21] <Paradoxx> naliothwhat about raiserfs? isn't it supposed to b fast?
[02:21] <sinizzl> is it a kde program ?
[02:22] <nalioth> Paradoxx: i dont recommend reiser to anyone
[02:22] <nalioth> sinizzl: it is
[02:22] <emerson> guys I had
[02:22] <Paradoxx> nalioth: y is that? if you don't mind me askin\
[02:22] <veloct> ookami: probably the site is down so it can't update it
[02:22] <nalioth> Paradoxx: reiser is termperamental and not mature
[02:22] <sinizzl> hmm
[02:23] <sinizzl> nalioth, that means i've got to install qt & kdelibs ?
[02:23] <Paradoxx> naliothL kk m8, ext3 it is....
[02:23] <nalioth> sinizzl: k3b is the best. you can use gnomebaker or graveman and give them a try (they're gtk2)
[02:23] <sinizzl> they are capable of burning audio cd's from mp3 on the fly ?
[02:24] <nalioth> sinizzl: i only use k3b, so i dont know
[02:24] <sinizzl> i don't feel really like installing 17 extra packages for one simple app
[02:25] <Ophiocus> well it all boils down to a couple of clicks, dosent it?
[02:25] <emerson> I having a lots of trouble if hoary 5.04 that isn't hoary anymore but breezy some icones just dissapear I even can't access my root terminal.....I don't know what to do anymore.....
[02:26] <xaint> nalioth: i am back, after reboot. i forget your nick :-) i had a problem with password, which doesnot react, even for sudo.
[02:27] <nalioth> xaint: xaint i suspect you have major trouble but you can try this
[02:27] <nalioth> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LostPassword
[02:27] <Paradoxx> !format
[02:27] <ubotu> Paradoxx: I don't know
[02:27] <ceej> whats a good cd bunner?
[02:27] <Paradoxx> !mount
[02:27] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[02:27] <corona> hi can someone recommend an app to monitor my network--> data transfer... i use kubuntu with fluxbox
[02:28] <veloct> corona: ethereal
[02:28] <zyga> corona: iptraf
[02:28] <corona> are these slit based?
[02:28] <emerson> please how can i activate my root terminal again ?
[02:29] <zyga> emerson: sudo -s in your existing terminal
[02:29] <zyga> corona: I don't know, sorry
[02:29] <veloct> corona: i don't believe so
[02:29] <corona> ok i shall have a look
[02:30] <nubbe> Is the install cd that can be dled updated as time goes by?
[02:30] <xaint> nalioth: but i know my password, i am logging with it every session in gnome... my password is accepted, but no reaction... f.e. synaptic asked me for password, then window disappeared and thats all.
[02:30] <xaint> !windowsdrives
[02:30] <ubotu> it has been said that windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:30] <nalioth> xaint: try running synaptic from a console with no password
[02:30] <sinizzl> !gay
[02:31] <emerson> zyga: what do you mean ?
[02:31] <zyga> emerson: to access root account, open terminal (any terminal) and type sudo -s
[02:31] <xaint> nalioth: it says something as i must be superuser.
[02:32] <nalioth> xaint: type "sudo gedit" and let me know what happens with gedit, please
[02:32] <emerson> zyga: all rigth so is one terminal to do everything ?
[02:32] <xophEr> how can I convert a i386-deb to a amd64-deb?
[02:32] <bolrod> you can't?
[02:33] <zyga> emerson: yes, it's still the same terminal emulator as before
[02:33] <bolrod> why would you want to
[02:33] <xaint> nalioth: just nothing. accepted password, put me back to commandline and thats all.
[02:33] <xophEr> bolrod, when there isnt an 64bit version available
[02:33] <crube> How do I install tgz packages? I tried to use dpkg --install but it just gave me error 2
[02:33] <bolrod> is the source available?
[02:33] <veloct> xophER: compile from source
[02:34] <xophEr> veloct, and when there is no source available either :)
[02:34] <nalioth> xaint: i believe your sudoers is screwed, but i dont know enough to help you get it fixed (screwing up the sudoers file isn't good)
[02:34] <xophEr> can I get the source out of a deb-file then?
[02:34] <emerson> zyga: no isn't work I tryed now....
[02:34] <bolrod> if its in it
[02:34] <bolrod> yes
[02:34] <bolrod> :)
[02:34] <xophEr> .. :)
[02:34] <zyga> emerson: sudo -s
[02:34] <zyga> emerson: type your password
[02:34] <bolrod> what program is this?
[02:34] <zyga> emerson: you are now root
[02:34] <bolrod> why would any program have 'only' the i386 deb
[02:35] <emerson> zyga: yes  I'm
[02:35] <veloct> xophEr: there's has to be a source available
[02:35] <bolrod> I think so too
[02:35] <oo0_JeS_0oo> discon
[02:36] <xaint> nalioth: so may i edit this file? i dont know which informations you need. okay, i will try something, hope it works...
[02:36] <zyga> emerson: so what did you want instead?
[02:37] <nalioth> xaint: the command you should ask google about is "visudo"
[02:37] <fletch33> morning
[02:37] <bolrod> afternoon
[02:37] <nalioth> xaint: you'll need to boot in recovery mode to use it
[02:37] <bolrod> :)
[02:37] <Paradoxx> !chown
[02:37] <ubotu> chown is, like, totally, a command used to change the owner of a file or folder, see `man chown` for details
[02:37] <nalioth> xaint: IF that is your problem
[02:37] <jsteidl> hi all, where can i find some information for distupgrade from breezy to dapper?
[02:37] <emerson> zyga: after so much trouble to upgrade my system finally I did but anothers bugs just came up...
[02:37] <fletch33> has anyine had to reboot after intalling packets to get the internet working agagin
[02:38] <veloct> jsteidl: go to the forums, there's a dapper forum but all you have to do in your /etc/apt/sources.list is to change breezy to dapper, then update and dist-upgrade
[02:38] <xaint> nalioth: okay, i will try it. and if not, i will be tomorrow here like as the boomerang :-)
[02:38] <jsteidl> thanks, veloct!
[02:38] <fletch33> everytime i use synaptic or automatix i lose my internet. xchat will work but i can not surf or download
[02:39] <nalioth> xaint: you can ask seveas he's smart
[02:39] <veloct> jsteidl: yw
[02:39] <xaint> nalioth: thanks very much even for showing me the way, now i will try the next.
[02:39] <Seveas> nalioth, thanks ;)
[02:39] <Seveas> xaint, what is the problem?
[02:39] <oo0_JeS_0oo> join #ubuntu-ppc, join #debian-ppc
[02:40] <bolrod> O_o
[02:40] <xaint> nalioth: will ask seveas :-) but first i will try it by myself. Is it what gurus want, noobs trying to help themselves ;-)
[02:40] <xaint> ha, seveas.
[02:40] <fletch33> anyone else ever have that problem
[02:41] <xaint> Seveas: i have problem. I am trying to do normal things f.e. synaptic or apt-get or sudo, it accepted my password, but does nothing. Simply put me back to commandline and thats all.
[02:41] <fletch33> i keep having to restart to get my internet working again
[02:41] <Arbee> whois Arbee
[02:41] <Seveas> xaint, wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin
[02:42] <fletch33> but not chat or gaim just surfing and downloads
[02:42] <Seveas> xaint, sudo cat /etc/sudoers | python pastebin
[02:42] <Seveas> xaint, id | python pastebin
[02:42] <Seveas> emerson, you can talk to me in here instead of dcc...
[02:43] <emerson> Seveas: hi man it's me ion the system blocked me to log on as ion.....
[02:43] <dwig365> i need help
[02:43] <dwig365> with my installation
[02:43] <Seveas> emerson, hi there
[02:43] <dwig365> for Ubuntu
[02:43] <Seveas> how did the upgrade go?
[02:43] <emerson> seveas: do you remember me ?
[02:44] <Seveas> of course
[02:44] <dwig365> Seveas: after ur done with him, could ya help me with ma installation problem
[02:44] <fletch33> Seveas, did u happen to catch my text i am sure it is something simple i am missing
[02:44] <xaint> seveas: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4475
[02:45] <xaint> seveas and second: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4476
[02:45] <emerson> Seveas: after so much trouble I could update my system but now anothers bugs came out....
[02:45] <Arbee> Is there already a HowTo on the net, about configuring a mail server with the new ubuntu-server 5.10
[02:45] <Seveas> xaint, try the first pastebin command again
[02:46] <Seveas> something went wrong
[02:46] <Arbee> I can't find any docu
[02:46] <emerson> Seveas: for example one those my terminal just dissapear the root one...
[02:46] <dwig365> Seveas: when i try to install it, it hangs at "int:0 swing:0 id:0" or something like that, it's the usb probe i think, but linux debian-installer/probe/usb=false doesn't have any effect on the error
[02:46] <Seveas> emerson, that's not a bug, it's a good thing :)
[02:46] <emerson> Seveas: the icone which control the sound too
[02:46] <Seveas> emerson, in the normal terminal you type 'sudo -i' to get a root terminal
[02:47] <Seveas> emerson, the sound control thing next to the clock you mean?
[02:47] <xaint> seveas: done
[02:47] <emerson> Seveas: yeah
[02:47] <Seveas> xaint, hmm, I think my script is buggy, since it does not show at the pastebin
[02:48] <Seveas> emerson, rightclick on some empty space next to the clock and select 'add to panel'
[02:48] <Seveas> there you can select the sound volume thing and put it back on the panel
[02:48] <emerson> Seveas: I did already ...doesn't work
[02:49] <Seveas> emerson, what's the error?
[02:49] <veloct> could just be the theme you're using
[02:49] <Seveas> xaint, 'sudo gedit /etc/sudoers' and put it on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl manually
[02:49] <emerson> Seveas: I just can't find the right icone...
[02:49] <Seveas> emerson, 3rd row from the bottom
[02:50] <Seveas> the last icon in the 'system and hardware' section
[02:50] <xaint> seveas: it does nothing.  gedit is not laounched. Thats the problem!
[02:50] <Seveas> xaint, ah crud --- of course
[02:50] <emerson> Seveas: I know but I can't find it....
[02:50] <Seveas> xaint, did you set a root password perhaps?
[02:50] <xaint> seveas: what abou to look at this file in any editor and paste it manually? I have root password, i can try...
[02:51] <xaint> seveas: yes, i have. It works okay.
[02:51] <Seveas> xaint, if you have a root password, then do 'su' to become root and copy the file to /tmp
[02:51] <Visiteur610> bonjours
[02:51] <Seveas> you can then open the file in /tmp as normal user
[02:51] <Seveas> !fr
[02:51] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[02:51] <Razor-X`> hola
[02:51] <emerson> Seveas: I can't donwnload xmms, amule and so on.....
[02:52] <xaint> seveas: okay, wait. and i can paste the inner of this file to you, may i?
[02:52] <Seveas> emerson, http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4478
[02:53] <Seveas> emerson, you should be able to download xmms now, what is the error when you try it?
[02:53] <Razor-X`> mmmm, it's a sleepover, and it's 5:51 AM
[02:53] <Seveas> xaint, sure
[02:53] <Seveas> but not in the channel :)
[02:53] <Razor-X`> heh
[02:53] <xaint> seveas: dont worry :-)
[02:55] <xaint> seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4479
[02:55] <Dwight> Seveas: did you catch the text i put above
[02:56] <stratovarius> guys pls who may give me a repositories list  4 hoary?
[02:56] <stratovarius> *may = can
[02:56] <Dwight> Seveas: when installing, it hangs at usb probe, the usb probe=false code did not affect this error in any way, it just hangs, so could you help me
[02:56] <Seveas> !repos
[02:57] <Seveas> !+repos
[02:57] <ubotu> hmm... repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[02:57] <Seveas> Dwight, sorry, can't help there
[02:57] <emerson> Seveas: I cannot stay here anymore I'm too stupid.....:(....unbelievable....
[02:57] <Dwight> Seveas: it's ok, could you reccomend a different distro that may work
[02:57] <stratovarius> !repos
[02:57] <ubotu> I heard repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[02:57] <Seveas> xaint, hmm, your sudoers file is incomplete
[02:58] <Seveas> xaint, as root, do: 'EDITOR=nano visudo'
[02:58] <Seveas> at the bottom of the file that appears add the following line:
[02:58] <Dwight> Seveas: i heard some good things about OpenSUSE, is it good like ubuntu
[02:58] <Seveas> xaint ALL=(ALL) ALL
[02:58] <emerson> Seveas: I found man...
[02:58] <Seveas> xaint, then save the file (ctrl o) and exit (ctrl x)
[02:58] <Seveas> it should work then
[02:59] <xaint> seveas: its on the end already., this all=all(all)...
[02:59] <stratovarius> !easysource
[02:59] <ubotu> easysource is, like, totally, For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:59] <veloct> Dwight: I hear Fedora is good, redhat based
[02:59] <ceej> i just added ffmpeg using SPM and i can't see it in the applications menu. can anyone help?
[03:00] <xaint> seveas: save it as sudoers, replace the old, i quess?
[03:00] <Seveas> xaint, no you need a line that says 'xaint ALL=(ALL) ALL'
[03:00] <Seveas> just like the line for root
[03:01] <teh_pwnerer> ubuntu!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:01] <teh_pwnerer> :d
[03:02] <penguinzdr> hi ubuntu guys!
[03:02] <ceej> i just added ffmpeg using SPM and i can't see it in the applications menu. can anyone help?
[03:02] <nvez> Hello, anyone know's a link to network installs?
[03:03] <blueblood> Does Glut work with DX?
[03:03] <xaint> seveas: it works, finally :-) tried sudo apt-get update and it works :-) thanks... i thought i am doing something wrong and my file was broken. okay, so lets continue to learning :-)
[03:04] <nalioth> xaint: so it was your sudoers list?
[03:04] <xaint> seveas: if your help is a postcardware, i can send you a postcard :-) (really)
[03:04] <Seveas> xaint, cool :)
[03:05] <xaint> nalioth: yes, uncomplete sudoers.
[03:05] <Seveas> Dennis Kaarsemaker
[03:05] <Seveas> Hoek van het IJ 40
[03:05] <Seveas> 8223 BK Lelystad
[03:05] <Seveas> The Netherlands
[03:05] <charles2005> test
[03:05] <Seveas> !test
[03:05] <ubotu> Failed.
[03:05] <Secreth`X> Seveas, are you dutch?
[03:05] <nalioth> xaint: my help is in my /whois
[03:05] <Seveas> Secreth`X, yup
[03:06] <Secreth`X> hehe, en ik dacht dat ik alleen was :O
[03:06] <teh_pwnerer> can ppl refer me to book / web tutorial on ANSII C... for a unit relating to OSs
[03:06] <mmarker> Anyone know the ins and outs of hal/hotplug and how Ubuntu set it up?  I've got a mess I need to fix.  Only trying to allow automounting of certain CD hardware.
[03:07] <xaint> nalioth, seveas: postcard of prague is enough?
[03:07] <nalioth> xaint: i've been there
[03:07] <emerson> Seveas: I think I know what's going on the system tells me that it already dobe but doesn't show me the icone on the desktop.....
[03:08] <xaint> nalioth, seveas: and i can give you a link to my photos of my casting in film Doom, i was there :-)
[03:08] <xaint> nalioth: beautiful city of beautiful girls and ocean of beer :-)
[03:08] <nalioth> xaint: quite
[03:08] <Secreth`X> Ok, when I installed breezy I had 2 CD drives. But now one is broken so I unplugged the IDE, but it still keeps showing up in `Computer` how do i fix it?
[03:08] <xaint> nalioth: so you dont want a postcard of porague or yes?
[03:09] <nalioth> xaint: my address is not available, so i'll pass, but thank you
[03:09] <Razor-X`> nalioth: I know what you did last summer
[03:09] <Razor-X`> nalioth: you... *gasp*
[03:09] <Razor-X`> breathed!
[03:10] <xaint> nalioth: okay, as you wish :-) i hought its in your whois...
[03:10] <teh_pwnerer> hmm is the kernigham book best to learn C? or some other one
[03:10] <Nalos> hi does anyone know how I can enable my BCM4301 802.11b card on 5.10?
[03:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Nalos about ndiswrapper
[03:11] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Nalos about wireless
[03:11] <switchcat> okay hmmm... so I'm TRYING to do a windows server netboot ala https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WindowsServerNetboot  but I can't figure if my system can do PXE... it does have WAKE on lan under power management settings, but I don't know how to tell it to boot from the network as network is not a choice in the boot sequence options (and I can't write a disk to tell it to do that, because...
[03:11] <switchcat> ...I don't have a system to write a disk from.) I didn't know what other features I might have to look at to get it to do this...?
[03:11] <switchcat> any ideas?
[03:12] <nvez> !test\
[03:12] <ubotu> No idea, nvez
[03:12] <nvez> !test
[03:12] <robotgeek> switchcat: then you can't do pxe. though, i think you can do with a rom-o-matic floppy
[03:12] <ubotu> Failed.
[03:12] <nvez> Anyone has a link to netowkr installs?
[03:12] <felipe_> hey
[03:12] <felipe_> para que sirve el bash sudo??
[03:12] <robotgeek> !es
[03:12] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:12] <nalioth> felipe_: en #ubuntu-es por favor
[03:12] <penguinzdr> !bg
[03:12] <ubotu> penguinzdr: Not a clue
[03:13] <nalioth> felipe_: o #ubuntu-br por portugues
[03:13] <felipe_> join #ubuntu-es
[03:13] <felipe_> ?
[03:13] <nalioth> felipe_: marqu /j #ubuntu-es
[03:13] <Nick_Hill> tritium, The topic contains non-ascii pipe characters which show up wrongly on many clients, both GNU/Linux and windows.
[03:13] <nalioth> fat fingers i have, lol
[03:13] <felipe_> marqu / #ubuntu-es
[03:14] <Nalos> It doesnt seem ndiswrapper doesnt support my card
[03:14] <Secreth`X> Ok, when I installed breezy I had 2 CD drives. But now one is broken so I unplugged the IDE, but it still keeps showing up in `Computer`. How do I fix it?
[03:14] <robotgeek> Nalos: it does!
[03:14] <veloct> felipe_:  "/join #ubuntu-es
[03:14] <nalioth> Nalos: ndiswrapper supporst broadcom
[03:14] <veloct> felipe_:  /join #ubuntu-es
[03:15] <nalioth> felipe_: tipea /j #ubuntu-es
[03:15] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i know this isn't ubuntu-specific, but does anyone have any ideas why my laptop doesn't _seem_ to be receiving any charge? it seems to be stuck on 57% charged...
[03:16] <TMM2> hey all
[03:16] <penguinzdr> how can i download backports via synaptic?
[03:16] <TMM2> can someone tell me how I can get evolution to put all the email of my different acounts into the 'standard' inbox?
[03:16] <TMM2> I don't want seperate entries for my different mail accounts
[03:17] <penguinzdr> how can i download backports via synaptic?
[03:17] <snorks> will d2 maphack work with cedega? lets face it, life without maphack sucks.
[03:17] <xaint> okay boys, problems ae fixed, thanks to all who helped me :-)
[03:17] <xaint> bye
[03:18] <Dwight> !help
[03:18] <Dwight> !+help
[03:18] <ubotu> I learn mainly by observing declarative statements such as "x is at http://www.xxx.com", and then reply when people ask things like "where can i find x?"
[03:18] <Dwight> :D
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[03:19] <penguinzdr> !help
[03:19] <mustard5> he
[03:19] <Nalos> is there anyway to do a auto detection for wireless?
[03:19] <Secreth`X> Ok, when I installed breezy I had 2 CD drives. But now one is broken so I unplugged the IDE, but it still keeps showing up in `Computer`. How do I fix it?
[03:20] <nalioth> Nalos: if your machine doesnt see it during the install or regular usage, you'll need to read the info ubotu sent you
[03:20] <El_Che> Secreth`X: remove the line referring to your cdrom at /etc/fstab (careful)
[03:21] <Secreth`X> El_Che, k, I'll try
[03:21] <penguinzdr> how can i download backports via synaptic?
[03:21] <nalioth> penguinzdr: you should have it in your sources.list
[03:21] <iivann> Hello
[03:21] <penguinzdr> hi (or zdravei) iivan
[03:22] <penguinzdr> nalioth: please tell me what line should i have
[03:22] <Secreth`X> El_Che, I dont know wich one it is, /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd
[03:22] <iivann> I have a problem trying to install Ubuntu on my PC. The problem is that my CDROM drive is not detected by the kernel. My MotherBoard is an Asus p5ld2. Could it be a problem with IDE drivers?
[03:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell penguinzdr about backports
[03:23] <Razor-X`> iivann: does Ubuntu not boot?
[03:23] <iivann> Razor-X`: It does boot, but it never detects the CDROM
[03:24] <Razor-X`> iivann: so, it never detects the Ubuntu installation CD?
[03:24] <iivann> In the BIOS I can choose between compatible mode or enhanced mode
[03:24] <iivann> Razor-X`: yes
[03:24] <Razor-X`> iivann: do other CDs boot?
[03:25] <iivann> Razor-X`: lol...of course they do, if Ubuntu DOES BOOT, but once it boots the cdrom is not detected anymore
[03:25] <iivann> It's not detected by the kernel
[03:25] <Razor-X`> iivann: oh.... hmmm
[03:25] <iivann> Razor-X`: It's a IDE drivers issue I think
[03:26] <Razor-X`> iivann: I'm going to have to ask someone else to take over right now, only because I haven't slept for the last 12 hours
[03:26] <iivann> Razor-X`: lol :D
[03:26] <kbrooks> I need some help
[03:26] <Razor-X`> iivann: i'm at a ``sleepover''
[03:27] <nalioth> kbrooks: ask, friend
[03:27] <axel> helloo
[03:28] <kbrooks> I need to automatically start Subversion on bootup. I don't have the init script.
[03:28] <nalioth> kbrooks: putting it in your startup sessions thingy wont do it?
[03:28] <kbrooks> nalioth: on bootup
[03:29] <axel> Does a command exist to "chmod" a directory and all its sub directories and files at once ??
[03:29] <kbrooks> not when gnome starts
[03:29] <kbrooks> axel: chmod -R
[03:29] <axel> oki
[03:29] <nalioth> kbrooks: init.d perhaps?
[03:29] <axel> thk u
[03:29] <kbrooks> nalioth: I checked
[03:29] <kbrooks> nalioth: Not there.
[03:30] <iivann> axel: man man :)
[03:30] <axel> iivann, u mean manual ?
[03:30] <nalioth> kbrooks: put it there?
[03:30] <iivann> axel: yeah, if you want to know a program's options, man program...
[03:30] <Secreth`X> !fstab
[03:30] <ubotu> hmm... fstab is /etc/fstab is a real pain for new users. The fstab file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[03:30] <nalioth> kbrooks: ask uncle google about "linux startup scripts"
[03:31] <kbrooks> nalioth: that's counter productive ...
[03:31] <_chris> hi
[03:31] <nalioth> kbrooks: you are not getting any answers in here, it seems
[03:33] <Secreth`X> Can you add something to the startup list of Ubuntu?
[03:35] <kbrooks> Secreth`X: me?
[03:35] <Secreth`X> kbrooks, what?
[03:36] <Duvel> tell me about nfs
[03:36] <kbrooks> Secreth`X: question for me?
[03:36] <Duvel> !nfs
[03:36] <ubotu> hmm... nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:36] <kbrooks> Duvel: !, and /msg the bot
[03:36] <Secreth`X> kbrooks, if you want to answer, yes.
[03:36] <rikva> I have a big problem. Yesterday I partitioned a drive, and the second partition (hdb2) is ext3. I made it with mke2fs -j /dev/hdb2. I moved _important_ files from my homedir to that partiton. And today I can't mount the partition... it says it is not ext3! Any help please.
[03:36] <kbrooks>  /msg ubotu nfs
[03:36] <Secreth`X> k
[03:36] <kbrooks> Secreth`X: i dont want to write a script manually
[03:36] <Duvel> !botsnack
[03:36] <ubotu> :)
[03:37] <kbrooks> Duvel: /msg the bot
[03:37] <nalioth> kbrooks: he cant. he's not identified
[03:38] <Secreth`X> kbrooks, NFS is not what I'm looking, I think. I need something for starting up a program (for exemple gDesklets) when Ubuntu starts..
[03:38] <Secreth`X> example*
[03:38] <kbrooks> Secreth`X: that wasnt to you
[03:38] <xaint> \whois nalioth
[03:38] <mindtzar> hello fellow ubuntu lovers
[03:39] <mustard5> welcome mindtzar
[03:39] <Secreth`X> kbrooks, woot, sorry,
[03:39] <kbrooks> Secreth`X: the nfs
[03:39] <nalioth> xaint: use the other / it works better
[03:39] <kbrooks> i mean
[03:39] <kbrooks> brb
[03:39] <Secreth`X> Yeah, now I get it ;p
[03:39] <mindtzar> ubuntu came in the mail only 3 days ago
[03:40] <xaint> nalioth: tried :-) doesnot displays me anything. what it can display?
[03:40] <Shadowpillar> I ordered about 20 cd's
[03:40] <mindtzar> and it has been my saviour
[03:40] <mindtzar> :D
[03:40] <mustard5> mindtzar, thats good to hear
[03:40] <Secreth`X> xaint, are you using xchat?
[03:41] <sH4> hm.. i`m using xchat...
[03:42] <xaint> secreth'X: yes
[03:42] <Secreth`X> xaint, look in the tab called "Ubuntu Servers" there is the whois
[03:42] <nalioth> Secreth`X: not that way, that is confusing
[03:43] <nalioth> xaint: find my nick on the right side and right click on it
[03:43] <Secreth`X> nalioth, That works too..
[03:43] <xaint> Secreth`X, thanks, i see his whois now:-)
[03:43] <Secreth`X> :)
[03:43] <mindtzar> /whois mindtzar
[03:43] <mindtzar> that works as well :O
[03:44] <xaint> nalioth: i am not so stupid, just i didnt expected it displayed in Servers window :-)
[03:45] <nalioth> xaint: nobody said that word. the user list is easier to get to
[03:45] <[miles] > afternoon #ubuntu..
[03:45] <[miles] > is the server version available on dvd with more packages please, or only cd?
[03:46] <mindtzar> of ubuntu?
[03:46] <nalioth> [miles] : only cd right now
[03:46] <mindtzar> heh
[03:46] <[miles] > nalioth ah ok, thanks
[03:46] <iivann> bye
[03:46] <[miles] > nalioth do you know if there is a online package list?
[03:47] <nalioth> [miles] : visit packages.ubuntu.com and search for "ubuntu-server"
[03:48] <Shadowpillar> what is uPNP?
[03:48] <Secreth`X> Hmm, searching on the wiki didn't help me either..
[03:48] <mindtzar> universel plug and play
[03:48] <mindtzar> universal*
[03:49] <xaint> nalioth: its easier, i know, but poor Secreth`X adviced me and it wasnot confusing for me :-) but yes, rigtclick on the right is what i know from the DC++ :-)
[03:50] <Secreth`X> yeah, poor me :)
[03:51] <xaint> hey, Nalioth, dont take it bad, it was not against you...
[03:51] <Secreth`X>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[03:51] <Secreth`X> woops
[03:52] <pc22> nalioth, what is the control-alt-del in linux
[03:52] <Ophiocus> pc22 try control alt BACKcpace
[03:53] <mustard5> OMG0Dz0R, my 00bunt2 iz n0t w0rkin PLZ h3lP m3h!!! N0w!! ;)
[03:53] <server_newbie> Hi
[03:54] <mustard5> welcome server_newbie
[03:54] <server_newbie> I have ssh up and runnung with rsa however it asks for my pass phrase. is this normal? can I log in with out typeing the pass phrase?
[03:55] <xaint> mustard5: if you are bored of newbies, so play airsoft.
[03:55] <mustard5> xaint, :)
[03:56] <server_newbie> us newbie we're not so bad... just dumb as boards about linux ;->
[03:56] <gnomefreak> its not dumb its inexperence
[03:56] <mustard5> I'd love an easy question :)
[03:56] <mustard5> easy questions I can handle
[03:57] <server_newbie> yep but with a little blood sweet and tears I'll get there !!
[03:57] <dave> Hi when i install wine i add the repositories then what? :O
[03:57] <gnomefreak> easy like "how to open x-chat
[03:57] <unit01_> argh i can't get skype to install ><
[03:57] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get update?
[03:57] <mustard5> gnomefreak, thats about my speed, yep :)
[03:57] <gnomefreak> lol :)
[03:57] <gnomefreak> mine too today
[03:58] <server_newbie> how about getting rid of the pass phrase in ssh/ras ?
[03:58] <unit01_> can anyone give me a quick guide to get skype to install? :|
[03:58] <soundray> unit01_, what's the error?
[03:58] <Secreth`X> Can you add something to the startup list of Ubuntu?
[03:58] <unit01_> i downloaded the debian package
[03:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell unit01_ about skype
[03:58] <unit01_> but when i search for it nothing comes up
[03:58] <mustard5> server_newbie, I wish I knew that one :)
[03:59] <pc22> nalioth, what time is it there?
[03:59] <soundray> unit01_, install it with sudo dpkg -i <packagename>
[03:59] <server_newbie> cool thanks for the answer mustard5
[03:59] <xaint> unit01_: http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype
[03:59] <bluefrog-10> how do you prevent added users to logon locally, pls?
[04:00] <xaint> i just love server ubuntuguide.org :-) the author's name maybe cutted in the stone :-)))
[04:00] <unit01_> i've got xmms installed
[04:01] <nalioth> 0900 pc22
[04:01] <unit01_> i've tried choosing play url
[04:01] <unit01_> but nothing happens
[04:01] <unit01_> anything certain i have to config+
[04:01] <unit01_> ?
[04:01] <pc22> ok
[04:01] <nalioth> xaint: you didnt just say that, did you?
[04:01] <snorks> what did he say?
[04:01] <rikva> I have a big problem. Yesterday I partitioned a drive, and the second partition (hdb2) is ext3. I made it with mke2fs -j /dev/hdb2. I moved _important_ files from my homedir to that partiton. And today I can't mount the partition... it says it is not ext3! e2fsck says it has a bad superblock. Any help please.
[04:01] <unit01_> status database area is locked by another process :(
[04:01] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak, doesnt trust ubuntuguide.org
[04:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell xaint about ubuntuguide
[04:02] <gnomefreak> that was posed to have a star :(
[04:02] <unit01_> darn i don't get this
[04:02] <mustard5> rikva, what command are you using to mount it out of curiousity
[04:02] <unit01_> always get a error when i try install
[04:02] <xaint> nalioth: why? I know ubuntuguide, even his czech version. why you think ubuntuguide is bad?
[04:02] <rikva> mustard5: just mount, because it is in my fstab, and mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb2 /media/hdb2
[04:02] <nalioth> xaint: read the info from ubotu, please
[04:03] <mahangu> !ubuntuguide
[04:03] <ubotu> [ubuntuguide]  out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[04:03] <soundray> unit01_, is this when you're trying to dpkg -i?
[04:03] <xaint> nalioth: read, sorry.
[04:03] <laga> !faq
[04:03] <ubotu> from memory, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide is: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation or http://help.ubuntu.com
[04:03] <xaint> nalioth: next time i will read first and then second i will ask :-)
[04:03] <unit01_> yes
[04:03] <unit01_> soundray, yes
[04:04] <teh_pwnerer> hi
[04:04] <gnomefreak> not to mention it wont be updated for another couple months
[04:04] <teh_pwnerer> anyone think they could help me with connecting to vpn by wireless
[04:04] <teh_pwnerer> pls msg me
[04:04] <soundray> unit01_, you'll have to quit synaptic / other package managers first.
[04:04] <lanjelot> hi fellows. Can somebody tell me on what window manager relies Ubuntu ? (metacity?)
[04:04] <unit01_> i did that
[04:05] <unit01_> still errors like can't processos or invalid operation install
[04:05] <nalioth> xaint: ubuntuguide was good when it was written for warty warthog, but got out of date since then. using it with breezy is definitely bad news
[04:05] <mjr> lanjelot, metacity is the default, yes
[04:05] <Trackilizer> I need your help guys, everytime i try to play a video with VLC i don't have sound, the picture is always there, only the sound is always missing.
[04:05] <teh_pwnerer> vpn pptpconfig wireless pls anyone??? :)
[04:05] <soundray> unit01_, you've got the wrong package then. http://ubuntuguide.org/#skype
[04:05] <snorks> Trackilizer: apt-get install vlc-alsa-plugin (or vlc-plugin-alsa)
[04:06] <gnomefreak> that site gets thrown around here way too often
[04:06] <snorks> Trackilizer: apt-cache search vlc | grep alsa
[04:06] <murray__> i've got /etc/acpi/sleep.sh working, but it takes about 90 seconds to recover (after being asleep).  Screen is blank for most of this time, and the harddisk is mostly not being accessed.  Ideas?
[04:06] <gnomefreak> doesnt wiki have a section for skype?
[04:07] <Trackilizer> snorks, thanks alot, it worked.
[04:07] <asfra> hi, i need some better tool to handle pdf than xpdf, should I install?
[04:07] <unit01_> soundray, well it worked now. now when i try to install it i get this error"sudo dpkg -i skype_1.2.0.11-1_i386.deb"
[04:07] <nalioth> gnomefreak: !skype or /msg ubotu skype
[04:07] <unit01_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:07] <unit01_>  skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb
[04:07] <murray__> also, hibernate runs, shuts down the machine and immediately boots it back up again, so technically, not working...
[04:07] <gnomefreak> nalioth, its not me looking for it someone else is
[04:07] <[miles] > thanks nalioth, sorry had to run to my daughters... will visit the package list
[04:07] <nalioth> unit01_: what kind of machine do you have?
[04:07] <Trackilizer> Now the second problem i have is, everytime i try to open a mp3 file with xmms i get an error message telling me i should check my sound card or something like that.
[04:07] <soundray> unit01_, that sounds like the command line to me, not the error.
[04:08] <asfra> Does anyone have somthing to handle pdf (except xpdf) i need to be able to copy from pdf?
[04:08] <mustard5> rikva, just reading the manual for e2fsck, I wonder whether the -b option has any use in this situation
[04:08] <snorks> Trackilizer: Well, I changed output plugin from esd to ALSA in XMMS not long ago. It was easy. System -> Preferences -> Sound, then uncheck "enable sound server at startup", and then enter XMMS and set output module to alsa
[04:09] <rikva> mustard5: i tried different superblock numbers with the -b option (the superblock numbers from mke2fs -nj /dev/hdb2) and none work
[04:09] <asfra> !pdf
[04:09] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, asfra
[04:09] <asfra> !adobe
[04:09] <ubotu> asfra: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:09] <asfra> !xpdf
[04:09] <ubotu> asfra: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:09] <soundray> asfra, xpdf should be fine for copy-and-pasting.
[04:09] <mustard5> rikva, hmmm...ok
[04:09] <mahangu> asfra, try an apt-cache search
[04:09] <unit01_> i typed this "sudo dpkg -i skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb
[04:09] <unit01_> "
[04:10] <mustard5> rikva, I'm out of ideas
[04:10] <Trackilizer> snorks, once again thanks alot.
[04:10] <snorks> Trackilizer: remember that you wont get sounds (i think) anymore, and you need to define alsa as soundoutput in all your apps that produces sound. you'll figure it out
[04:10] <Trackilizer> Worked!
[04:10] <rikva> mustard5: me too...
[04:10] <donza> hello folks
[04:10] <Trackilizer> Oh!
[04:10] <unit01_> abit an7, amd xp 3000
[04:10] <er4z0r> hello
[04:10] <Trackilizer> I'll work out how to do that, thanks again.
[04:10] <nalioth> asfra: please !dont !fish
[04:11] <asfra> soundray, how? there's no way i can copy text to office..
[04:11] <nalioth> asfra: it works better if you ask us
[04:11] <er4z0r> My kpdf shows totally messed up text in some cases, any idea how I fix this?
[04:12] <soundray> asfra, select text by dragging from upper left to lower right. Paste with a middle-click.
[04:12] <unit01_> soundray, you got any idea what could be  wrong? i changed the lines as written in the ubuntuguide site
[04:13] <unit01_> i then used the commands in ubuntuguide
[04:13] <unit01_> it downloaded but then i'm unsure whathappened
[04:13] <soundray> unit01_, how many lines of error output?
[04:13] <gimmi> hello, anyone got a problem with lookup of IPs using a D-Link G604t ADSL Modem router wifi, the issue is that IP are resolved into 1.0.0.0
[04:14] <unit01_> 4
[04:14] <unit01_> hr, pdd
[04:14] <unit01_> couldn't stat source package
[04:14] <asfra> soundray, wheel click? what do u mean by middle click? if I right click what I have marked there's no copy
[04:14] <soundray> asfra, yeah, wheel click should do.
[04:15] <Secreth`X> Can you add something to the startup list of Ubuntu?
[04:16] <asfra> soundray, thanks alot man! u live and u learn :)
[04:16] <nalioth> unit01_: ubuntuguide will break your box.
[04:16] <TotalNewb> Hi.
[04:16] <rambo3> its friday the 13 today
[04:16] <soundray> unit01_, I'm not familiar with that error message.
[04:16] <unit01_> does it work for the new version?
[04:16] <unit01_> cause i'm unsure whether it's all correct
[04:16] <blueblood> whats the ASCII for ALT?
[04:16] <wickedpuppy> rambo3, today is friday ?
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> which planet are you on ?
[04:17] <Secreth`X> lol
[04:17] <rambo3> 6oo6Ie.com is ascii
[04:17] <unit01_> lol i can't even get xmms to play a damn mp3 stream :(
[04:17] <rambo3> then give up ?
[04:17] <traveller> is there a simpler DNS config tool than webmin?
[04:18] <fonkypij> Hi Guys
[04:18] <fonkypij> unit01 how come ?
[04:18] <unit01_> i choose play location
[04:18] <nalioth> unit01_: you follow the ubuntuguide, your'e likely not to be able to play with your computer
[04:18] <unit01_> insert location
[04:18] <unit01_> nothing happens
[04:18] <soundray> blueblood, ALT is a modifier, it doesn't have an ASCII code.
[04:18] <fonkypij> did someone try to use Automatix script?
[04:19] <nalioth> fonkypij: dont use it
[04:19] <blueblood> soundray, hmm ok,
[04:19] <fonkypij> why not nalioth ?
[04:19] <fonkypij> i got no problem with it
[04:19] <nalioth> fonkypij: those scripts are written by people who are not familiar or as careful with ubuntu as they should be
[04:19] <soundray> nalioth, are the instructions by Simon80 on http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-40148.html safe in your opinion?
[04:20] <nalioth> fonkypij: they may work great for some people, but for some people they destroy their box
[04:20] <fonkypij> it just adds some links to the apt/source.list file
[04:20] <fonkypij> what the matter with that
[04:20] <nalioth> soundray: let me look
[04:20] <soundray> nalioth, thanks
[04:20] <nalioth> fonkypij: i doubt it's as simple as that
[04:20] <xaint> nalioth: in this case i agree with you. they are too step-by-step, and user will not learn anything....
[04:21] <Secreth`X> I give up, I cant find it
[04:21] <TotalNewb> I have a simple, but kind of silly question about KDE. Does anyone know how to make it stop putting the little bouncing icon next to the mouse pointed when you open a program? It's just annoying :P
[04:21] <nalioth> soundray: grabbing the static version of skype should be fine, rebuilding shouldnt be necessary
[04:21] <Ng> Secreth`X: what are you looking for? ;)
[04:22] <fonkypij> nalioth, you must be kiddin
[04:22] <soundray> Thanks nalioth. unit01_, are you installing the static version?
[04:22] <fonkypij> did you see the source?
[04:22] <Secreth`X> Ng, A simple thing to add something to the startup list of ubuntu, if there is one..\
[04:22] <fonkypij> it is just a DL script man
[04:22] <fonkypij> with wget and apt-get
[04:22] <murray_> l3m: ta
[04:22] <fonkypij> i could have scripted this stuff
[04:22] <nalioth> fonkypij: some of those "easy scripts" have --force-all in them. when you force things you dont know about, things break
[04:22] <Ng> Secreth`X: what kind of thing? A system startup thing or something you want to start whenever you log in?
[04:23] <fonkypij> nalioth,  oh yeah i agree
[04:23] <unit01_> i just grabbed the debian package from here "http://www.skype.com/products/skype/linux/"
[04:23] <fonkypij> you're damn right
[04:23] <Secreth`X> Something to start whenever I log in, for example: gDesklets
[04:23] <fonkypij> but the idea is good basically
[04:23] <fonkypij> Is that true that Ubuntu is noob oriented ?
[04:23] <nalioth> fonkypij: if the writer(s) thought it out, yes, but most of only think of their own boxes
[04:24] <fonkypij> coz i had to do crazy things in order for the box to work properly
[04:24] <nalioth> fonkypij: it is user friendly on all levels
[04:24] <fonkypij> lol
[04:24] <xaint> fonkypij: yes, thats true :-) most friendly distribution, even better than mandriva.
[04:24] <Ng> Secreth`X: ok, then there are two routes. If the program is smart, it will register itself with gnome-session and when you log out, you just tick the Save Current Session box. If not (and that will warn you if a program isn't going to come back up) you can put it in the manual session startup, which is in System->Preferences->Sessions in the "Startup Programs" tab :)
[04:24] <soundray> unit01_, well, nalioth's suggestion is to download the statically linked tar.gz package instead. I got skype working here with Simon80's instructions.
[04:24] <fonkypij> ubuntu doesn t like my asus at all
[04:24] <fonkypij> first
[04:24] <fonkypij> i had to disable my sound coard
[04:24] <fonkypij> in order to boot
[04:24] <Secreth`X> Ng, GREAT! thanks
[04:25] <fonkypij> then reconf X in order to startx
[04:25] <unit01_> ok
[04:25] <peti> hi. I configured gnome to have hungarian keyboard layout for a user but it's still english. what can I be missing, I am out of ideas atm
[04:25] <fonkypij> this compile in recover in order to get sound
[04:25] <fonkypij> etc etc
[04:25] <unit01_> soundray, i'll download the static package, is the installation process as mentioned on the ubuntuguide site?
[04:25] <Ng> Secreth`X: no probs. I would expect gdesklets will be smrt enough to get into the session the easy way :)
[04:25] <fonkypij> i don't call this 'user friendly'
[04:25] <Secreth`X> Well then it is my fault, but it didnt
[04:26] <soundray> unit01_, no, follow the skype instructions instead.
[04:26] <donza> fonkypij: hw support improves all the time
[04:26] <nalioth> unit01_: ubuntuguide will break your box. guaranteed.
[04:26] <Ng> Secreth`X: hmm, well it's a long time since I've used it, so maybe it doesn't do it
[04:26] <fonkypij> donza, tell me about it
[04:26] <donza> fonkypij: maybe on dapper also your soundcard will work
[04:26] <fonkypij> lol
[04:26] <donza> :)
[04:26] <soundray> unit01_, bottom of the download page.
[04:27] <fonkypij> donza, it does work actually
[04:27] <unit01_> yes i see it
[04:27] <unit01_> do i haveto save the file on a certain place?
[04:27] <fonkypij> donza, had to rebuild kernel with m soundcard support
[04:27] <fonkypij> then build alsa
[04:27] <unit01_> i get the error "no such file or directory"
[04:27] <donza> fonkypij: yep.. sounds like hw recognition problem to me :/
[04:28] <fonkypij> which hw are u talkin about donza  ?
[04:28] <donza> i had loads of problems with my laptop back on hoary
[04:28] <donza> for example with acpi
[04:28] <fonkypij> really ?
[04:28] <donza> but they seem to have fixed most of those on breezy
[04:28] <fonkypij> didn't try hoary
[04:28] <soundray> unit01_, do a 'ls ~/skype_staticQT-1.2.0.18.tar.bz2' to see if it's in your home dir.
[04:28] <fonkypij> i was a debian addict
[04:28] <fonkypij> in the past
[04:29] <joosep> why does gksu give me a "wrong password" error but kdesu doesn't?
[04:29] <silversurfer> yes breetzy is laptop ready
[04:29] <Nalos> why is it that i can read my windows(ntfs) drive on knoppix but not on ubuntu?
[04:29] <fonkypij> but debian lacks packages upd
[04:29] <donza> fonkypij: yep..
[04:29] <soundray> joosep, things like that can happen with unusual passwords, eg. with trailing spaces.
[04:29] <bigfoot1> can someone go to http://www.metacafe.com/watch/34020/levitation/ and tell me the direct link for the embedded movie file please?
[04:29] <unit01_> soundray,  no it wasn't there
[04:30] <donza> fonkypij: yup..
[04:30] <nalioth> bigfoot1: your 'view source' doesnt work?
[04:30] <joosep> soundray: but my password doen't have any spaces or weird characters, only latin letters and numbers
[04:30] <donza> i think many debian users have come to ubuntu camp
[04:30] <bigfoot1> nalioth: i tried that, but i can't seem to download it .
[04:30] <soundray> joosep, in that case I don't know.
[04:30] <silversurfer> They are
[04:30] <joosep> ok, thanks anyway
[04:30] <fonkypij> io silversurfer
[04:30] <fonkypij> whassup you bit**
[04:30] <fonkypij> lol
[04:30] <silversurfer> io
[04:30] <gimmulf_> How do i start sshd
[04:30] <nalioth> bigfoot1: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[04:30] <gimmulf_> ?
[04:31] <silversurfer> /etc/init.d/sshd start
[04:31] <soundray> unit01_, if you're certain that you've downloaded the file, it must be somewhere on your system...
[04:31] <unit01_> it's on the desktop
[04:31] <soundray> unit01_, ahh okay.
[04:31] <Ng> gimmulf_: check you have openssh-server installed
[04:31] <donza> does anyone have w800 or k750i mobilephone?
[04:31] <gimmulf_> oki
[04:31] <Ng> donza: k750i here
[04:31] <fonkypij> man i must build this apache shit
[04:31] <bigfoot1> nalioth: why kubuntu? i don't use kubuntu
[04:31] <unit01_> i moved it to the home folder
[04:31] <unit01_> same thing cam eup
[04:32] <donza> Ng: do you have any problems with usb-cabel transfer in ubuntu?
[04:32] <nalioth> bigfoot1: #kubuntu-offtopic is a quiet place for your offtopic education
[04:32] <nalioth> bigfoot1: the link is dead, anyway
[04:32] <Ng> donza: the phone sometimes crashes, but otherwise no, it mounts fine. syncing with multisync doesn't work, but I can move files around ok
[04:32] <ekimus> hi, i'm planning on setting up a server for a win environment, the samba stuff isn't the problem (auth, share, printers) but i want the users to be able to open office files and it should transparently start a ltsp session open OO.org (maybe even for browsing) anyone got good documentation links on that?
[04:32] <donza> Ng: i have problem with moving multiple files
[04:33] <donza> Ng: it quite often just crashes... have to force unmount it
[04:33] <joosep> how to manually start a new X session, like the "start a new session" button
[04:33] <soundray> unit01_, you're not typing skype-version... literally, are you?
[04:33] <donza> single files moves ok.. but quite slow
[04:33] <Ng> donza: I've had problems before with usb2 on some motherboards, blacklisting the usb2 module so it only presents usb1 has helped, although obviously at the cost of a lot of speed :/
[04:33] <unit01_> soundray, i type out the whole filename
[04:33] <donza> Ng: ok.. i have to try that.. thanks
[04:34] <nalioth> bigfoot1: your question was offtopic, anyway
[04:34] <coax> help please! i need to find out a font string for use with xterm's -fw flag...
[04:34] <Ng> coax: xlsfonts may help, or xfontsel would be better
[04:34] <soundray> unit01_, do a 'cd' to be sure, then type 'tar xjvf skype_' followed by the Tab key.
[04:34] <unit01_> ok will do that
[04:34] <unit01_> gotta go now
[04:34] <unit01_> thanks for the help so far
[04:35] <Myk3> hey guys
[04:35] <djk_> hi, how do i enter the bios on old dell laptops?
[04:35] <Myk3> anyone chating here?
[04:35] <Myk3> f2
[04:35] <Myk3> i belive
[04:35] <nalioth> Myk3: chatting in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:35] <Myk3> or delete and or f10
[04:35] <Myk3> one fo those
[04:35] <Myk3> hu?
[04:35] <Myk3> o sorry
[04:35] <coax> thanks Ng... just what i needed!!
[04:36] <Myk3> umm i have a question about dvd playback
[04:36] <Myk3> i dled libdvdcss and tryed to install it but
[04:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Myk3 about libdvdcss2
[04:36] <Myk3> but its like it doesnt want to install all the way
[04:37] <Paradoxx> any1 know of an app i can use to burn avis to dvd so they can play on my dvd player?
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> i think we need some more details Myk3
[04:37] <Myk3> it goes to seting up lib... and then just goes back t the prompt
[04:37] <Myk3> to
[04:37] <Paradoxx> !dvd
[04:37] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> Myk3,  what command are ya using to install the file?
[04:38] <rambo3> !porn
[04:38] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, rambo3
[04:38] <Myk3> dpkg -i *.deb
[04:38] <nalioth> Myk3: then you're done.
[04:38] <nalioth> Myk3: if it goes back to the prompt, everything worked and it is installed
[04:38] <Myk3> but when i try to remove the pkgit says notinstalled
[04:38] <Ng> Paradoxx: I'm not aware of any easy dvd authoring software for linux. There is something called mkdvd, but it's written in a very very rare language and can be a bit of pain to setup. Google can probably find an ubuntu or at least debian guide for it, if you really want to
[04:39] <nalioth> Myk3: because you didnt install it with apt-get
[04:39] <Myk3> thwen when i try to play a dvd it isnt working
[04:39] <nalioth> Myk3: read what ubotu sent you, please
[04:39] <Myk3> no im useing dpkg -r *.
[04:39] <nalioth> Myk3: read what ubotu sent you, please
[04:40] <Myk3> k
[04:40] <shinu> if i do: ps -eo "%c %z"|grep java and get java 370320, does it mean that java is taking up 370mb of ram?..
[04:40] <Paradoxx> Ng: alright NG, thx... I'll try that
[04:41] <Ophiocus> how do i restart the dhcp server?
[04:41] <nalioth> shinu: java sucks (literally)
[04:41] <xaint> nalioth: gave you a feedback, but donation will be when paypal will be secure in czech :-)
[04:41] <nalioth> xaint: thank you
[04:41] <shinu> nalioth: it does but... that much 0.0
[04:41] <Ng> Ophiocus: servers usually have an "init script" in /etc/init.d/ so you can just do something like "sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp restart"
[04:41] <nalioth> shinu: yes, that much
[04:41] <shinu> nalioth: i mean... my friends run azureus under windows and it takes him 50-60mb...
[04:41] <Ng> Ophiocus: it might be named slightly differently though, so have a look first
[04:42] <xaint> bye
[04:42] <nalioth> shinu: how long and how many torrents are you running on it?
[04:42] <Ng> shinu: ram reporting on linux is unhelpful at best, so it probably isn't actually using that much ram
[04:42] <Myk3> hey ubotu
[04:43] <Myk3> i sent u a msg
[04:43] <Ng> shinu: and java doesn't suck, nalioth is talking nonsense ;)
[04:43] <fonkypij> mmm?
[04:43] <shinu> nalioth: about a day? or less.. and running 2 active torrents
[04:44] <Myk3> ok
[04:44] <shinu> Ng: yeah but its actually kinda slow... and when my ram meter reaches its top, everything dies 0.0 until i kill something...
[04:44] <frenetik> Hello, DRI stopped working after upgrading to Breezy from Hoary, following the Howto did not help, I see mtrr errors in dmesg and was pointed to rage3d forums, but didn't help either. Can anyone help?
[04:44] <shinu> Ng: and java sucks imho :P just dont like it :P
[04:44] <Myk3> is there new backports ?
[04:44] <djk_> what does "hd password is locked" mean in a bios?
[04:45] <nalioth> shinu: try bittornado-gui or bittornado ncurses
[04:45] <Myk3> means ur hd is lock
[04:45] <GNULinuxer> nalioth: how do I use the backports? where is the repo?
[04:45] <nalioth> shinu: use the curses client in a terminal with 'gnu screen' and you can run multiple torrents with almost 0 system hit
[04:45] <shinu> nalioth: they dont have capping and single file downloading... and multi torrents in one
[04:45] <bob832> when following the ati-driver install how to, and when i get to the step on creating the xorg.conf file, do i just go through selecting the defaults?
[04:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell GNULinuxer about backports
[04:45] <nalioth> GNULinuxer: use them with caution
[04:45] <server_newbie> I have keychain up and running but I am still getting asked for passphrase at each login ? any ideas ?
[04:45] <djk_> Myk3: well yes, but what exactly are the consequences?
[04:45] <GNULinuxer> nalioth: are they broken?
[04:46] <shinu> nalioth: i thought of getting rtorrent but its not in the repos :/
[04:46] <nalioth> shinu: and they dont kill your box with java suckdom, either
[04:46] <nalioth> GNULinuxer: they are probably empty
[04:46] <shinu> hehe
[04:46] <nalioth> shinu: build it
[04:46] <fonkypij> silversurfer,
[04:46] <GNULinuxer> nalioth: empty? how dangerous can they be in that case?
[04:46] <shinu> nalioth: too many dependencies :/ i didnt have time in the last few days... maybe during the week :D
[04:46] <fonkypij> silversurfer, ta bta est louche la
[04:46] <fonkypij> lol
[04:46] <nalioth> fonkypij: english please
[04:46] <Ng> shinu: to give you some idea, I have had Zend Studio running for a few days and its jvm has a VSS of 435MB, but it's only actually using 80MB of RAM
[04:47] <Ng> the VSS includes *everything* it has *mapped*
[04:47] <fonkypij> nalioth, i ain't english... and i wasn't talkin to u, so where's the problem ?
[04:47] <GNULinuxer> fonkypij: this is a english only channel
[04:47] <shinu> Ng: whats vss?...
[04:47] <Ng> shinu: %z in your ps command
[04:47] <fonkypij> GNULinuxer, omg okay, nevermind
[04:48] <Ng> shinu: it covers anything it maps through the kernel (including ram), apart from physical devices afair
[04:48] <shinu> Ng: i see... thats weird then.... xD
[04:48] <Ophiocus> ok i ve got dhcp and a proxy running a home lan, sometimes lan looses the internet access, if i reboot it all comes up again, can anyone tell me if i may need to look into any particular dhcp - proxy setting? lease time or something
[04:48] <Ng> shinu: it's why X always looks so huge, because it will have the memory on your graphics card mapped one or two times at least
[04:49] <shinu> Ng: even though... my comp very often lags... when the xfce ram meter reaches the top that is...
[04:49] <GNULinuxer> nalioth: what's the right way to see the available updates using apt-get ?
[04:49] <klemens> can someone help me with a wine problem pls
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> klemens,  and whats the problem?
[04:49] <Ng> shinu: sure, it may well be that it is eating ram. It's not java's fault though ;)
[04:50] <nalioth> GNULinuxer: not sure
[04:50] <klemens> just installed a program in a folder called program files in wine
[04:50] <klemens> how can i access it
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> wine path/to/whatever/command.exe
[04:50] <nalioth> Ng: it is not javas fault, correct. but since most java devs dont mind their code, java gets the black eye
[04:50] <klemens> ok thanks i give it a try
[04:51] <Ng> nalioth: the same could be said of things like gnome/openoffice that are quite wasteful with resources ;)
[04:51] <klemens> what is the default path of wine
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> klemens,   there is none. :P
[04:51] <nalioth> Ng: yes, but i have yet to find gtk apps that behave quite so horrendously
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> klemens,  cd to whever the .exe is at and do wine foobar.exe or whatever.
[04:51] <Ng> nalioth: evolution
[04:52] <nalioth> Ng: and openoffice is java based
[04:52] <GNULinuxer> nalioth: hmm, ok
[04:52] <Ng> nalioth: only a small part of it
[04:52] <Ng> the help system I think
[04:52] <nalioth> Ng: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic please and we can set off the fire alarms, eh?
[04:52] <Ng> hehe
[04:53] <GNULinuxer> nalioth: backports are empty
[04:53] <shinu> Ng: lets say its the torrent+java combination :P
[04:53] <nalioth> GNULinuxer: yes, there are none yet
[04:53] <Coburn> ihave some problem with  rox filer it give me an error when i try to mount floppy and cd rom ''
[04:53] <Coburn> someone can help me?
[04:53] <GNULinuxer> nalioth: heh ... I was expecting OOo 2.0 stable
[04:53] <nalioth> GNULinuxer: patience
[04:54] <GNULinuxer> nalioth: yeah :)
[04:54] <foobar> hey, does anyone know how I can start an app with gnome (gnome starts up -> app starts up automagically)?
[04:54] <GNULinuxer> foobar: sessions
[04:55] <GNULinuxer> foobar: Preferences > Sessions
[04:55] <Coburn> someone use rox filer?
[04:55] <Coburn> i have some problem with mount
[04:56] <Paradoxx> why does file copying take up so much resources in ubuntu? or is this a general linux problem?
[04:56] <tryingsomething> probably file system type
[04:56] <foxgamer> Hi all. I need to install a 'dialog' program, but I cannot seem to find any in the repositories. Can someone help?
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> Paradoxx,  never noticed it taking up much resources at all. - you do have 'dma' enabled on your hard drives?
[04:56] <Coburn> tryingsomething how can i repair it ?
[04:57] <Paradoxx> how do i check?
[04:57] <mjr> Paradoxx, I'd check if you have DMA on on your disk drive(s) enabled, if IDE
[04:57] <Ophiocus> ive logged to the workgroup of a win based lan, i can only see some of the folders but te rest got spaces in their names,. is that the reason i cant see em in lin?
[04:57] <mjr> echo
[04:57] <mjr> Paradoxx, sudo hdparm /dev/hda (and hdb, c, etc, for whatever you have)
[04:57] <satino> i have installe mplayer and mplayer firefox plugin, but firefox is still using totem, how do i change this ?
[04:57] <mjr> Paradoxx, there should be a line  using_dma    =  1 (on)
[04:59] <Paradoxx> mjr: yep, thats there
[04:59] <foobar> Thanks =)
[04:59] <foobar> GNULinuxer: yeah I found it, thanks =)
[05:00] <GNULinuxer> foampeace: no probs
[05:00] <GNULinuxer> foobar:
[05:00] <mjr> Paradoxx, right, well, that isn't the problem then
[05:01] <Paradoxx> mjr: kk...
[05:02] <Paradoxx> mjr: its just that when i do copys, like from external device to hd, it seems to tax the system so much...
[05:02] <mjr> Paradoxx, usb drives?
[05:02] <SirKillalot> how do  patch a bunch of files with a .diff file?
[05:02] <mjr> some have said that usb drives tax the system, but I don't know about that so much
[05:03] <SirKillalot> how do I*
[05:03] <Paradoxx> mjr: yep yep,....
[05:03] <Ng> SirKillalot: patch --dry-run </path/to/file.diff  to test, you might need -p1 if you are inside a directory and the patch was made outside it
[05:03] <flamey> hi all: is there something similar to dreamweaver for ubuntu (or linux in genaral)
[05:04] <SirKillalot> Ng, thanks
[05:05] <Hoxzer> what is the best news reader for ubuntu?
[05:05] <Aven> Hello
[05:05] <Ng> Hoxzer: I'd say pan :)
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> Hoxzer,  depends on how you define 'best'
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> Hoxzer,  pan is fairl;y well done
[05:06] <xophEr> Hi! What could be wrong; my computer freezes when I leave it unattended for a longer while.. like over night.. In all the logs everything is normal, but then suddenly stops.. Using Breezy
[05:06] <SirKillalot> Ng, I try patch but it doesn't seem to work, just no CPU usage, no output text and so on
[05:06] <Hoxzer> Dr_Willis: easy downloads
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> Hoxzer,  for just grabbing loads of porn binaries.. there are binary-grabber type news readers...
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> that specilize in that.
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> err.. or so i hear. :P
[05:07] <Ng> SirKillalot: have you put the < before the path to the diff? patch reads the diff on its standard input (ie as if you typed it in), so the < redirects the real file into that input. if that makes sense ;)
[05:07] <Hoxzer> Dr_willis: well can you tell me the name of them?
[05:07] <xThiAg0> http://www.linuxval.org/ubuntu/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1653
[05:07] <Hoxzer> or name one
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> check out synaptic and see what ones are in the list.
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> I tend to just use pan for my miminal needs.
[05:08] <Kensey> anybody ever gotten a plain old three-button PS/2 mouse to work with a laptop that has a Synaptics touchpad?
[05:09] <blueblood> does KDE have any as easy to use remoteserver as Gnome?
[05:09] <rdz> btw. how to disable in the touchpad, that tipping on it behaves like mouseclick?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> Kensey,  I have with usb mice - in the past.. none of my laptops have ps2 any more.
[05:09] <myrth_> hi, i have an app that requires libstdc++.so.5 , how do i know which package i need to install?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> rdz,  that gets asked in here all the time.. I think the wiki's have details.
[05:09] <anamaria> it is possible to print from a hoary witch is on a switch with a windows xp (the printer is plugged on xp)?
[05:10] <rdz> ok, thanks Dr_Willis
[05:10] <Kensey> it's actually a trackball but it shows up as a generic PS/2 mouse and works fine under Windows
[05:10] <anamaria> or how i make a network with it
[05:11] <anamaria> i wanna use a printer from another pc
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> anamaria,  with the printer cofig tool. i think you select 'smb' or 'samba' networked printer and tell it the name/path to it. or try the browse button.
[05:11] <Ophiocus> am really having a bothersome situation with network, highly unstable proxy, i cant feed internet to a local lan without loosing it every so often, only thing i can do is reboot
[05:13] <jessid> hello.
[05:14] <jessid> some of you know how can I create my own cd of repositories?
[05:14] <vbgunz> hello all, I just installed sawfish *but* see no option for it under sessions when I log out... I also tried "killall metacity; sawfish &" but I am given error 5... Anyone know how I can try out sawfish and see if it is right for me?
[05:14] <afv-13> what is ubuntu's rss reader?
[05:14] <basti__> Where do I change the icon for all my mp3s?
[05:15] <vbgunz> The sawfish error is: "sawfish cannot open display: error 5"
[05:15] <tryingsomething> delete all mp3's >:) haha
[05:15] <jessid> What I mean is this: if I download serveral packages and I want to use them in a machine that has not internet access, how can I create a cd in a machine that does have internet access
[05:16] <vbgunz> can someone help me correctly launch sawfish and replace metacity... Not always *but* on demand so to see if sawfish is right for me... Help is very much appreciated!
[05:16] <Paradoxx> afv-13: i use liferea, and it pretty much deals with everything i need
[05:16] <afv-13> thanks Paradoxx
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> vbgunz,  could make a special sawfisn gdm entry that starts up sawfish and the gnome-panel.
[05:16] <klemens> Is there cross platform program for webcams (linux, windows)
[05:17] <Ng> vbgunz: you could probably just do "killall metacity ; sawfish ; metacity" in a terminal. That will kill metacity and immediately run sawfish, then when sawfish quits (ie you get bored and kill it), metacity will be run again
[05:17] <Bicchi> is there a way to resize a lot images at once to the same size. Any programs out there that can do so?
[05:17] <Seveas> Bicchi, mogrify
[05:18] <Seveas> for example: mogrify -resize 160x100 *.png
[05:18] <Xenguy> Can anyone confirm whether 'aterm' is a bit leaner than alternatives (xterm, rxvt, etc.)?  It seems like it is a bit lighter on memory when I compare through 'top'.
[05:18] <Bicchi> Seveas: is that on synaptic
[05:18] <lesshaste> Xenguy: try rxvt
[05:18] <Seveas> Bicchi, yes
[05:19] <basti__> but there is no setting where I can change default icons for a mp3?
[05:19] <Seveas> in the imagemagick package
[05:19] <lesshaste> Xenguy: I don't think aterm is any better than that
[05:19] <Xenguy> lesshaste: see above; I have, but aterm looks a bit leaner AFAICT
[05:19] <Bicchi> Seveas: I can not find it
[05:19] <Seveas> in the imagemagick package <---
[05:19] <Seveas> !info imagemagick
[05:19] <ubotu> imagemagick: (Image manipulation programs), section graphics, is optional. Version: 6:6.2.3.4-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1301 kB, Installed size: 3688 kB
[05:20] <LjL> can anybody help me with locales/charsets? KNode isn't recognizing accents, though I'm not sure yet whether it's a KNode problem or a system-wide locale problem
[05:20] <lesshaste> Xenguy: have you turned off transparency?
[05:21] <lesshaste> Xenguy: the difference is very small.. much bigger savings are to made elsewhere.. what desktop?
[05:21] <simprix> I just did a apt-get dist-upgrade to breezy and now x doesn't work. What is the command line to configure x
[05:22] <snorks> simprix: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:22] <aikon> sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:22] <mustard5> simprix, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:22] <snorks> er ok
[05:22] <aikon> faster :D
[05:22] <mustard5> :)
[05:23] <aikon> there are some problems if you have install the nvidia driver
[05:23] <aikon> srry for bad english i am germen
[05:23] <PalleLap> aikon, welcher probleme?
[05:23] <PalleLap> du brauchst die debian pakete?
[05:23] <mustard5> aikon, you can always switch to VESA drivers as a temporary solution
[05:23] <nalioth> !de
[05:23] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[05:24] <PalleLap> heh, (write to me in private :))
[05:24] <nalioth> PalleLap: you should be registered to private message
[05:24] <Xenguy> lesshaste: yeah, I don't use transparency
[05:25] <Xenguy> lesshaste: xfce4 since this is an older laptop (even then, I find it a bit laggy)
[05:25] <jessid> hello. I want to create my own cd of repositories...is that posible? how? thanks
[05:25] <nalioth> jessid: see the debian new maintainers guide at debian.org
[05:25] <djk_> what does "hd password is locked" mean in a bios?
[05:25] <jessid> nalioth ok ok. thanks
[05:26] <Vit1251> hello
[05:26] <aikon> nee i dont have any problems
[05:26] <topyli> jessid: or just apt-get install maint-guide :)
[05:26] <mustard5> aikon, I just realised that sorry :)
[05:26] <aikon> np
[05:26] <jessid> topyli what is  maint-guide???
[05:26] <aikon> i means if you do a dist upgrade
[05:26] <lesshaste> Xenguy: is that less resource hungry than fluxbox?
[05:27] <mustard5> aikon, yep
[05:27] <lesshaste> Xenguy: how much RAM ?
[05:27] <aikon> you must switch nvidia to nv
[05:27] <aikon> before you upgrade
[05:27] <Vit1251> q.: ppp not onnect to FC
[05:27] <mustard5> aikon, type the nickname of the person you are talking to, before your message
[05:27] <Xenguy> lesshaste: no - fluxbox is a window manager whereas xfce4 is a desktop environment -- fluxbox would definitely be lighter
[05:28] <aikon> you talk to all
[05:28] <aikon> :D
[05:28] <Xenguy> lesshaste: 128 IIRC
[05:28] <mustard5> aikon, it's less confusing ;)
[05:28] <aikon> sry i means i talk to all
[05:28] <topyli> jessid: the debian new maintainers guide as a debian package so you can have a local copy if you want to
[05:28] <lesshaste> Xenguy: I imagine xfce is a bit heavy for that.  I would go for fluxbox.. unless you need a desktop for some reason?
[05:28] <villa> hi all
[05:28] <nalioth> aikon: when you preface a nick onto your sentence, it highlights in the client of the person you are talking to (in most clients)
[05:28] <jessid> topyli ok. thanks
[05:28] <mustard5> welcome villa
[05:28] <Nick_Hill> !ops
[05:28] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and nalioth
[05:28] <villa> i cant run synaptic
[05:29] <villa> help me please
[05:29] <topyli> jessid: the apt howto also explains how to create local repositories
[05:29] <aikon> villa, whats the problem?
[05:29] <nalioth> Nick_Hill: may i help you?
[05:29] <mustard5> villa, please describe the error in more detail
[05:29] <Xenguy> lesshaste: I was just experimenting -- I like xfce overall.  Typically I have used windowmaker in the past as a window manager; I find blackbox etc. a bit too lean ;-)
[05:29] <villa> there arent error
[05:29] <aikon> villa, use the bash
[05:29] <villa> i make clic on icon
[05:29] <nalioth> Nick_Hill: is there a problem?
[05:30] <villa> and progrand doesent runs
[05:30] <lesshaste> Xenguy: take a look at http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/applications.html  . Out of interest.. what is missing in fluxbox for you?
[05:30] <Nick_Hill> nalioth, Hi. The topic for discussion is using non-ascii characters. I have asked around, and it is looking corrupted for others as well. Can you change the pipe to ascii | ?
[05:30] <mustard5> villa, try sudo synaptic in terminal..and look for an error message then
[05:30] <nalioth> Nick_Hill: dont use !ops unless there is a noticeable problem. we are not your personal helpmates
[05:30] <jessid> topyli very nice...i will install it and read it. thanks again! ;)
[05:30] <mustard5> villa, gksudo synaptic might be better
[05:30] <Xenguy> lesshaste: but maybe I'll have another look someday when I have some time... Nothing was "missing", so much as it was an aethestic reaction I guess
[05:31] <mustard5> I'm confusing myself now..hehe
[05:31] <Xenguy> lesshaste: BTW I find the forks a bit confusing also - blackbox, fluxbox, openbox
[05:31] <villa> mustard5 no eerror appear
[05:31] <lesshaste> Xenguy: OK. I imagine you can make it look however you want.. unless you need 3-d buttons :)
[05:31] <Xenguy> brb
[05:31] <mustard5> villa, have you just installed?
[05:31] <aikon> villa, reboot you system and try again
[05:31] <villa> i already done it
[05:32] <aikon> what will you do in synaptic
[05:32] <aikon> install some programs
[05:32] <crube> Does anyone know how to use cpkg packages?
[05:32] <mustard5> villa, have you just installed?
[05:32] <jessid> a last question for now: every word that is said for debian is also "useful" for ubuntu? with useful i mean that if also works...
[05:32] <b|ake> hey , just wondering if i should download the live cd or the other one ? i already have the live cd here just wondering if i can do the same install as i need from that cd then if i had the basic i386.iso thats not live ?
[05:32] <aikon> crube, do you mean dpkg ??
[05:32] <Nick_Hill> nalioth, I used !ops to determine who to tell about the corrupted topic for the group. What should I have done?
[05:32] <villa> by default is installed
[05:32] <crube> aikon,  no I dont
[05:33] <aikon> whats cpkg??
[05:33] <villa> whow can i reintall it?!
[05:33] <Xenguy> lesshaste: how do you load fluxbox anyway (e.g. do you disable gdm or not?) ?
[05:33] <mustard5> villa, is this a new install?
[05:33] <aikon> sudo apt-get remove --pruge synaptic
[05:33] <villa> yes mustard5
[05:33] <mustard5> villa, did you use expert install?
[05:34] <villa> yes
[05:34] <nalioth> Nick_Hill: asked in the channel who was was an op. !ops is for emergency use
[05:34] <aikon> villa, what distri ???
[05:34] <aikon> breezy or Hoary
[05:34] <mustard5> villa, your user account probably doesnt have sudo priviliges yet
[05:34] <Nick_Hill> nalioth, I have done this on two occasions in the last 20 hours.
[05:34] <villa> mmm 5.10rc
[05:34] <mustard5> villa, expert install does not set up sudo for the first user by default
[05:34] <nalioth> Nick_Hill: is the topic suitable for you now?
[05:34] <Vit1251> hello
[05:34] <mustard5> villa, you will need to edit your /etc/sudoers file
[05:34] <aikon> villa, if there any problems when you login in your system
[05:35] <Vit1251> you can view my message???
[05:35] <mustard5> Vit1251, I see it
[05:35] <b|ake> anyone ?
[05:35] <Nick_Hill> nalioth, It isn't the case of being suitable for me personally. But to look right for everybody. Thank you for makign the change.
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> b|ake, ?
[05:35] <mustard5> villa, you would have assigned a root password correct?
[05:35] <b|ake> hey , just wondering if i should download the live cd or the other one ? i already have the live cd here just wondering if i can do the same install as i need from that cd then if i had the basic i386.iso thats not live ?
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> b|ake,  live cd dose not do an install.
[05:36] <villa> yes i activate root acount by terminal
[05:36] <b|ake> really
[05:36] <aikon> villa, if there any problems when you login in your system
[05:36] <b|ake> goddamnit
[05:36] <mustard5> villa, use the visudo command to add yourself to the /etc/sudoers file
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> b|ake,  the live DVD however can boot to a live mode. or an install mode - ihear
[05:36] <villa> aikon no
[05:36] <mustard5> villa, visudo
[05:36] <villa> root
[05:36] <Vit1251> mustard5, hello
[05:37] <mustard5> Vit1251, do you have a problem you need help with?
[05:37] <b|ake> so your sayin i shoulda got ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso , instead of ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso ?
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> b|ake,  if you want to INSTALL - thenyou need the install cd.
[05:37] <villa> resolved
[05:37] <tryingsomething> is there a big diff between 5.04 and 5.1?
[05:37] <villa> thanks
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> b|ake,  or the dvd.
[05:37] <mustard5> villa, np
[05:37] <b|ake> yeah so i need to nab the ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[05:38] <b|ake> doin that now
[05:38] <b|ake> i just figured the live cd would just giev me as many options
[05:38] <kinkoblast> Yeh, the livecd really ought to allow installation of a minimal system off of it.....
[05:38] <kinkoblast> But it doesn't.
[05:38] <villa> a program to view tvcapture?
[05:39] <mustard5> villa, xawtv?
[05:39] <alvaro_> hola
[05:39] <alvaro_> alguien qeu hable espaol?
[05:39] <villa> i have try installed by i dont know xD
[05:39] <villa> alvaro yo
[05:39] <villa> pero soy novatisimo
[05:40] <villa> xD
[05:40] <alvaro_> hola villa
[05:40] <alvaro_> tengo un problema
[05:40] <b|ake> thanks for the info
[05:40] <mustard5> villa alvaro_ engish only in this channel plz
[05:40] <b|ake> gotta run
[05:40] <b|ake> later
[05:40] <LjL> !es
[05:40] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:40] <korio> can anyone help me installing ut2004 demo? it asks for a symlink path, i dont know what to enter
[05:40] <villa> ok mustard5
[05:40] <besfred> where can i find the package maintainers of mono/libgdiplus in ubuntu?
[05:40] <weirdbro> Is there any way to make the LiveCd version anything more than a demo?
[05:40] <alvaro_> me cai
[05:41] <aikon> weirdbro, no
[05:41] <mustard5> villa, you will probably need to enable the universe and multiverse repositories to get xawtv
[05:41] <aikon> weirdbro, muste download the x86 or x64 CD s
[05:41] <alvaro_> no consigo hacer andar la sound blaster 24bit en ubuntu
[05:41] <[A] ndy80> alvaro_: #ubuntu-es
[05:41] <korio> can anyone help me installing ut2004 demo? it asks for a symlink path, i dont know what to enter
[05:42] <alvaro_> gracias
[05:42] <mustard5> korio, type man ln in terminal you are looking to use the 'ln' command with the -s option I would think
[05:42] <yhonatan> hey,i have ubuntu and i want to install windows in hdb(ubuntu is in hda) some problems will happen?
[05:43] <nalioth> yhonatan: yes, but you can fix them with this
[05:43] <nalioth> !recover
[05:43] <ubotu> hmm... recover is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:43] <yhonatan> what?
[05:43] <yhonatan> no,i have ubuntu
[05:44] <yhonatan> i want to install windows in other hd
[05:44] <nalioth> yhonatan: read what ubotu said above
[05:44] <yhonatan> but its ubuntu after installing windows
[05:44] <nalioth> yhonatan: if you unplug your ubuntu drive, you can edit the grub menu after windows installs to the other
[05:45] <yhonatan> amm its the only way?
[05:46] <nalioth> yhonatan: windows will eat your grub otherwise
[05:46] <yhonatan> windows sucks
[05:47] <mustard5> yhonatan, no argument there :)
[05:47] <yhonatan> :)
[05:49] <besfred> where can i complain about incompatible packages?
[05:49] <mustard5> besfred, which packages?
[05:49] <Paj> hi, just a quick question if i am ssh'd to a server how can i copy a file to my computer?
[05:49] <besfred> mono and libgdiplus. the latest versions in breezy dont work together.
[05:49] <yhonatan> again re-install of Ubuntu:(
[05:49] <stratovarius> hey what is the command line to install java with apt?
[05:50] <besfred> but i guess they are in universe
[05:50] <stratovarius> i use hoary
[05:50] <Paj> is java on apt ?
[05:50] <martin4775> can anyone help with mounting floppy in ubuntu?
[05:51] <Paj> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-java i just followed that for java
[05:51] <mustard5> besfred, what error are you getting with them?
[05:53] <evele> s
[05:54] <besfred> mustard5:
[05:54] <yhonatan> :( i dont want to re-install Ubuntu
[05:54] <mustard5> besfred, looking over the two packages in synaptic I can't see where either one refers to the other
[05:54] <Sionide> Paj
[05:54] <Sionide> !java
[05:54] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:54] <Paj> hi
[05:54] <lesshaste> how would I rotate the whole screen by 90 degrees so I can see my rotatable lcd screen in A4 mode?
[05:55] <Paj> hi, just a quick question if i am ssh'd to a server how can i copy a file to my computer?
[05:55] <Paj> :)
[05:55] <besfred> mustard5: when using libgdiplus from a mono app, i get this: http://www.pastehere.com/?piunhe
[05:55] <mustard5> besfred, thanks looking now..
[05:55] <korio> in which package is libstdc++.so.5 located in anyone?
[05:56] <LjL> libstdc++5
[05:56] <martin4775> is there a problem with ubuntu mounting floppy?
[05:56] <korio> in which package is libstdc++.so.5 located in anyone?
[05:56] <mustard5> martin4775, on breezy I have read of some problems yes
[05:56] <tryingsomething> search synaptic
[05:57] <basti__> If I wanta software to for example use alsa where do I point it instead of /dev/dsp ??
[05:57] <LjL> korio: didnt you just ask that?
[05:57] <Seveas>  libstdc++5: usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5
[05:57] <korio> LjL, didnt see annswer...
[05:57] <LjL> [17:56]  <LjL> libstdc++5
[05:58] <korio> didnt see that sorry
[05:58] <LjL> ok
[05:58] <Determinist> any idea what apache runs on? i mean... the apache daemon, what user does it use?
[05:58] <mustard5> besfred, not knowing much about mono I'm a bit in the dark
[05:58] <_null> Hello, is it possible to resize partitions without loosing all the data on it? (They're reiserfs & ext3)
[05:58] <korio> tnx LjL
[05:58] <mjr> _null, yes
[05:58] <_null> mjr, how?
[05:59] <LjL> _null: parted
[05:59] <mjr> _null, (g)parted can do that, plus there are separate tools also (wasit e2resize and something for reiser)
[05:59] <LjL> or gparted, or qtparted, i suppose
[05:59] <Virtuall> hello everybody... tell me please, what do I have to delete to make firefox use mplayer instead of totem? (mozilla-mplayer is already installed and totem removed, but it uses totem anyway)
[05:59] <mustard5> besfred, bugs in main distribution are normally reported to bugzilla
[05:59] <_null> LjL, does the installer suit my needs too? Because I'd like to resize my / partiton
[05:59] <mustard5> ubotu: tell besfred about bugzilla
[06:00] <mjr> null, I think reiserfs can be extended on-line (mounted), otherwise you want to unmount it first; try the live-cd if this is a problem otherwise
[06:00] <besfred> mustard5: thx.
[06:00] <LjL> _null: don't think
[06:00] <_null> LjL, why not? Isn't it parted on the installer cd?
[06:01] <djk_> i have a 6gb hdd, will 50mb /boot 2gb / 500mb swap and rest /home be enough for kubuntu?
[06:01] <michas> hello
[06:01] <LjL> _null: i think it's actually a simpler partitioner
[06:01] <LeeJunFan> what's the best way to search repositories to see what package has a file? and is ubotu aware of multiverse, universe?
[06:01] <mustard5> welcome michas
[06:01] <_null> LjL, ok... i'll try with the livecd then
[06:02] <Paj> no one able to help with ssh ?
[06:02] <mustard5> LeeJunFan, I would think apt-cache show and apt-cache showpkg with relevant grep command
[06:02] <michas> I have a problem, how to make for "give xorg
[06:03] <Orborde> Paj: What's up?
[06:03] <Paj> hi, just a quick question if i am ssh'd to a server how can i copy a file to my computer?
[06:03] <michas> because i must go to the help-terminal
[06:03] <mustard5> LeeJunFan, actually maybe not :)
[06:03] <Paj> well copy a folder
[06:03] <LeeJunFan> mustard5: I think that just processes the packages you have downled.
[06:03] <mustard5> LeeJunFan, I can see a flaw in that idea
[06:03] <mustard5> :)
[06:03] <LeeJunFan> yeah.
[06:03] <kinkoblast> paj, sftp support is buildt into the gnome file manager.
[06:03] <Orborde> Paj: Um....off the top of my head, I don't know. You can log in using sftp instead of ssh.
[06:03] <Paj> yeh
[06:03] <mustard5> LeeJunFan, well it does show unistalled stuff, but it assumes you have a packagename in mind already
[06:04] <Paj> i tried sftp Cannot download non-regular file:
[06:04] <Paj> got that
[06:04] <Paj> :(
[06:04] <Paj> i assume with get cmd ?
[06:04] <murray_> hmm. hiberating, /var/log/messages has "swsusp : FATAL cannot find swap device"
[06:05] <murray_> but /boot/grub/menu.lst has kopt=root=/dev/hda3 ro resume=/dev/hda2
[06:06] <murray_> any other ways to point swsusp at the correct device/file to use for hibernation?
[06:06] <Virtuall> hello everybody... tell me please, what do I have to delete to make firefox use mplayer instead of totem? (mozilla-mplayer is already installed and totem removed, but it uses totem anyway)
[06:06] <mustard5> LeeJunFan, *slowly dawning on me what you are trying to do* :)
[06:06] <LeeJunFan> mustard5: I'll have to look into auto-apt more to see how it does it, it says it installs packages automatically if you try to access a file that you don't have but it knows is in repos, and requires a database of available files.
[06:06] <LeeJunFan> now where to get that database. hehe
[06:06] <djk_> i have a 6gb hdd, will 50mb /boot 2gb / 500mb swap and rest /home be enough for kubuntu?
[06:07] <LeeJunFan> djk_: yes, as long as you don't install a ton of stuff. Also there is a #kubuntu channel.
[06:07] <LeeJunFan> djk_: I wouldn't even bother making /boot a separate partition.
[06:07] <djk_> LeeJunFan: i asked there ;)
[06:08] <murray_> is there anywhere else that might know about swsusp stuff?
[06:08] <djk_> LeeJunFan: so just / and /home + swap?
[06:08] <LeeJunFan> djk_: I see that now. I wasn't paying attention :)
[06:08] <mustard5> LeeJunFan, I wonder if packages.ubuntu.com would be useful
[06:09] <mustard5> LeeJunFan, it has a search the contents of packages option
[06:09] <LeeJunFan> djk_: you don't even need to have separate /home and / if you don't want to, it might save headache later if you find you need more room in one or the other.
[06:09] <LeeJunFan> mustard5: I'll try - thanks.
[06:11] <djk_> LeeJunFan: may i query?
[06:11] <mustard5> djk_, how much ram you got?
[06:11] <djk_> mustard5: 128
[06:12] <oidia> any good c++ compiler, easy graphical interface + good error messeges, for ubuntu?
[06:12] <mustard5> djk_, its sounds good to me..let me check how big my / partition is on gnome
[06:12] <mustard5> djk_, my / partition is half the size of yours and still not full
[06:13] <LeeJunFan> djk_: I've got 3.4 gigs in / on my system but I have a lot of src stuff in /usr/src, and a lot of stuff installed too.
[06:13] <mustard5> djk_, actually its less than half..its 264mb
[06:13] <mustard5> djk_, I suppose I have /usr and /var too though
[06:14] <mustard5> djk_, all up I think I have around 4 gigs including /, /usr and /var
[06:15] <djk_> LeeJunFan: i only want to install XFCE4 and that's pretty much it.. of course i need to know which packages to download for xfce (only modem on the laptop so have to dl+burn the packages)
[06:16] <mustard5> djk_, I think xubuntu uses xfce I dont know if its xfce4
[06:16] <gnomefreak> anyone know of a list of GNU text editors?
[06:16] <djk_> mustard5: why do you have /usr and /var?
[06:17] <nalioth> mustard5: it is xfce4
[06:17] <djk_> mustard5: xubuntu doesn't have a cd version yet does it? thought it's only breezy+ downloaded xfce?
[06:17] <mustard5> djk_, I chose an auto partition option in expert install while I was playing around with installing ubuntu..its just the way it set it up
[06:17] <loot> ubotu, ati
[06:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[06:17] <mustard5> djk_, I most likely don't need them :)
[06:18] <gnomefreak> djk_, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:18] <nalioth> just for kicks, how do you remove metapkgs and all their depends?
[06:18] <gnomefreak> that will install the xubuntu
[06:18] <mustard5> gnomefreak, he's on dialup
[06:18] <djk_> gnomefreak: i know how to get it on a machine connected to a broadband...
[06:18] <djk_> mustard5: i personally am not on dialup, the laptop is ;)
[06:18] <Lardarse> does anyone here know how o enable dual monitor suppport on ATI cards ?
[06:19] <jake37> djk > if you want the ubuntu cds aren't they offered as free cds shipped to you?
[06:19] <jah_raztah> in openbox under gnome what to u press on the keyboard to bring up the run menu, default was ALT+F2 but that don't work anymore for some reason
[06:19] <gnomefreak> does xubuntu have a download for it yet?
[06:20] <mustard5> gnomefreak, I believe so, I have never checked
[06:20] <djk_> jake37: heh, i have a 2mbit line on this machine, but the laptop only has a modem no ethernet...so..
[06:20] <jake37> ooo...sorry...dunno anything about xubuntu
[06:20] <gnomefreak> i have someone checking right now
[06:20] <djk_> mustard5: last time i looked i couldn't find a download section..
[06:20] <jake37> djk > i feel for you dude...was on 56k for four years on a p166...<s>
[06:21] <Lardarse> any1 ?
[06:21] <Virtuall> MY LAST TRY: tell me please, what do I have to delete to make firefox use mplayer instead of totem? (mozilla-mplayer is already installed and totem removed, but it uses totem anyway)
[06:21] <djk_> jake37: good ole times when writing the program by yourself was faster than downloading it ;)
[06:21] <Lardarse> lol djk_
[06:21] <wuhu> can someone help me figure out how to install totem plugins that allow for playing of mpeg files?
[06:21] <bluefrog-10> Virtuall, have you removed the totem plugin in firefox/plugin?
[06:22] <jake37> Virtual...try right clicking a music file and chose properites...go to Open with and chose your wanted prog...worked for me but not sure if it will work thru firefox
[06:22] <mustard5> Virtuall, I'm too sure how you would do that
[06:23] <jake37> I changed association from totem to xmss with that way
[06:23] <Virtuall> bluefrog-10, hm...
[06:23] <Lardarse> does anyone here know how to enable dual monitor suppport on ATI cards? so far i have them displaying the same thing, but that's not what i'm looking for...
[06:23] <Virtuall> jake37, i meant when it's <embed>
[06:24] <bluefrog-10> Virtuall, hum what?
[06:24] <wuhu> anyone?  mpg files?
[06:24] <jake37> Virtual > okie...dunno about plugins and the like <s>
[06:24] <erUSUL> wuhu, install gstreamers-plugins
[06:24] <wuhu> thanks
[06:25] <DavidMa> hi guys
[06:25] <Lardarse> (brb)
[06:25] <mustard5> djk_, yeah..no CD yet...just read the wiki on the latest.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[06:25] <Virtuall> bluefrog-10 Virtuall, have you removed the totem plugin in firefox/plugin? -- where??!
[06:25] <KarlosII> My Aunt boght a Dell with a Pentium 830 EMT64 processor, what precompiled kernel would be best for her to run?
[06:26] <erUSUL> wuhu, install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse sorry
[06:26] <gnomefreak> ther eis no download for cd version
[06:26] <bluefrog-10> Virtuall, as written firefox/plugin directory
[06:26] <Virtuall> where is this directory?!
[06:26] <jake37> Karlos is it a laptop?
[06:26] <gnomefreak> i was gonna say if he had access to dsl
[06:27] <bluefrog-10> Virtuall, look for it
[06:27] <mustard5> djk_, looks like it won't happen until Dapper release
[06:27] <KarlosII> jake37, no it's a full desktop
[06:27] <zyga> hello
[06:27] <DavidMa> is it easy to upgrade 5.04 to 5.10 using apt-get?
[06:27] <jake37> Karlos > is ita  64 bit processor?
[06:27] <zyga> I'm trying to compile a custom kernel
[06:27] <zyga> I still cannot get past the boot stage
[06:27] <mustard5> DavidMa, yes..we have instructions..
[06:27] <KarlosII> yes pentium 830 whichis a EMT64 processor with no HT
[06:27] <KarlosII> dual core
[06:27] <zyga> I've compiled the reiserfs into the kernel, not as module
[06:27] <mustard5> DavidMa, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:27] <DavidMa> will it always be easy to upgrade to the latest version using apt-get?
[06:27] <wuhu> erUSUL, no can do.  it says it cannot mark all packages for installation.  something about gstreamer0.8-a52dec not going to be installed...plus a bunch of others
[06:28] <DavidMa> i hate having to re-install from scratch
[06:28] <zyga> (I use raiser for /)
[06:28] <mustard5> DavidMa, yes
[06:28] <zyga> still it fails with unknown device (0,0)
[06:28] <mustard5> DavidMa, if you follow whatever official guides there are for doing so...
[06:28] <jake37> Karlos> I would think one of the 64 bit .iso's but I am not sure which exactly...
[06:28] <DavidMa> ok i will try ubuntu i think
[06:28] <_ShoGo_> hi ppl
[06:28] <mustard5> DavidMa, did you get the link?
[06:28] <DavidMa> i usually use slackware but it's a hassle because the packages are not plentiful
[06:28] <DavidMa> mustard5: yes, thanks reading now
[06:28] <mustard5> k
[06:28] <_ShoGo_> can anyone help me with falconseye?? as soon as i choose my char the screen gets black
[06:29] <KarlosII> jake37, well there is a emt64 kernel onthe list so I was curious
[06:29] <gnomefreak> slack is harder than ubuntu
[06:29] <gnomefreak> much :(
[06:29] <djk_> mustard5: yea, and the wiki instructions require a inet connection :-/
[06:29] <DavidMa> it's just a nightmare having to re-install from cd every 6 months
[06:29] <Virtuall> bluefrog-10, thanks, it worked!
[06:29] <laga> gnomefreak: but it also is fun :)
[06:29] <DavidMa> plus peter has some health problems which slows dev
[06:29] <KarlosII> what whether there woud be any performance gains vs the amd64 kernel
[06:29] <gnomefreak> laga that it is
[06:29] <mustard5> djk_, got usb drive?
[06:29] <ramblingturtle> is there anyway to have legal codecs for mp3 and dvd's because I would like to have everything legal but cant find anything online about it
[06:30] <DavidMa> why does it say to use "sudo"
[06:30] <djk_> mustard5: nope
[06:30] <v4lo> How could i listen mp3s on ubuntu?
[06:30] <laga> v4lo: with realplayer
[06:30] <gnomefreak> i went from slack to libranet and alwasy kept ubuntu on other drive
[06:30] <_ShoGo_> v4lo, with xmms
[06:30] <jake37> gnome> I have used about 4 distos...caldera, and three mandrakes...and ubuntu is the easiest to get up and running...provided you have partitions set up and ready...lol
[06:30] <mustard5> djk_, I think you can install ppp in the install options
[06:30] <wuhu> why is it so damn hard to install basic things on ubuntu?  every time i try to install things it depends on a zillion onther packages i don't have
[06:30] <laga> ubotu: v4lo about mp3
[06:30] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, laga
[06:30] <gnomefreak> sudo is like a root in other linux os's
[06:30] <DavidMa> jake37: why is that? no fdisk in the install menu?
[06:30] <_ShoGo_> can anyone help me with falconseye?? as soon as i choose my char the screen gets black
[06:31] <mustard5> djk_, there is a section that asks what other modules you want to load at install and I am sure ppp is one of them
[06:31] <gnomefreak> wuhu? what are you having a hard time installing?
[06:31] <laga> ubotu: tell v4lo about mp3
[06:31] <djk_> mustard5: of course i could sudo pppoeconf, but that still would require a _physical_ ethernet card ;)
[06:31] <wuhu> everything.  let's just start with mpg plugins for totem
[06:31] <wuhu> half the time i can't even find the packages in synaptic
[06:31] <Ethan> 2wdg
[06:31] <Ethan> arg
[06:31] <mustard5> djk_, the laptop has dialup? as in 56k?
[06:31] <Ethan> **** focus!!!
[06:32] <djk_> mustard5: yes, only 56k
[06:32] <gnomefreak> mpg?
[06:32] <wuhu> mpeg
[06:32] <jake37> David> no I installed new disk and set up ntfs and a fat32 partion and left free space for ubuntu...about 15 gb...was much easier to do guided partioning and not worry about others on drive...plus I installed grub to floppy to reduce threat to mbr
[06:32] <mustard5> djk_, I have never tried it but you could see if you could get ppp set up at install and try to connect via command line
[06:32] <DavidMa> i will install to a whole drive, i hope this is ok
[06:32] <DavidMa> can you mount ntfs in ubuntu?
[06:32] <gnomefreak> that is concidered a restricted format no?
[06:33] <Pablo> yes it is
[06:33] <wuhu> i have no idea...new to linux
[06:33] <etam> hi can anyone help me
[06:33] <sunshine82> im tryin to set up evolution can someone please help
[06:33] <gnomefreak> !restriced formats
[06:33] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:33] <jake37> David> it takes software to access ntfs I think...thats why I used fat32 to provide a sharing partiton between os'es
[06:33] <gnomefreak> yes :(
[06:33] <DavidMa> jake37: which software?
[06:33] <wuhu> sooo...if it's restricted, can i install it??
[06:34] <Pablo> yes
[06:34] <djk_> mustard5: well, that'd mean i have to pay for some 56k isp while i have a _unlimited traffic_ 2mbit adsl line here ;)
[06:34] <gnomefreak> what is the command for restricted formats? for the bot?
[06:34] <jake37> David> I have no idea really...I stick with what is working for my situation. No need to really muck around
[06:34] <recover> When I double click on a video file Totem opens, I want mplayer to open instead, how do I set this?
[06:34] <mustard5> djk_, ah ok, I assumed you had an isp already :)
[06:35] <kapputu> In firefox, if I chose to open a particular file format with a particular application and chose 'Do like this from now on' why doesn't it do it that way again
[06:35] <Pablo> ubotu tell wuhu about restricted formats
[06:35] <jake37> recover> right click media file and chose properties...go to Open with tab and chose program you want to use...and select always open with this prog if it is in dialog
[06:35] <wuhu> oik
[06:35] <wuhu> ok
[06:35] <gnomefreak> ty
[06:35] <Pablo> :)
[06:35] <gnomefreak> i cant remember the commands for the bot too many :(
[06:36] <djk_> mustard5: naa ;) the laptop will never go online anyway so no need for a 56k contract ;) especially because of the 2mbit line.
[06:36] <zyga> can anyone help me iwith kernel compilation?
[06:36] <steig> gnomefreak: do you know, if i can edit the context menu of gnome according to my individual wishes?
[06:37] <raghu> zyga: google for kernel compilation
[06:37] <raghu> zyga: good docs are online
[06:37] <recover> I can only have a program with sound at a time, how can I fix this?
[06:37] <gnomefreak> steig: context menu as in if you right click on desktop?
[06:37] <zyga> raghu: I don't care about generic compilation, I want to know how to rebuild the default kernel, identical to the one shipped with ubuntu
[06:37] <omeg> Hi guys. If I wanted to make suggestions to the Ubuntu art/aesthetics team, then how would I be able to contact them (or any institution that accepts such suggestions)? I intend to make elaborate descriptions with image references.
[06:38] <steig> gnomefreak: yes
[06:38] <zyga> omeg: try in #ubuntu-devel maybe, or the mailing list
[06:38] <omeg> Okay, thanks.
[06:38] <gnomefreak> i dont know of a way to edit that at all
[06:38] <steig> pity
[06:39] <soundray> zyga: just curious: why do you want to compile the kernel?
[06:39] <zyga> soundray: I want to add suqashfs and unionfs *later*
[06:39] <gnomefreak> i remember a while ago i got a terminal in there but thats what that terminall does itself
[06:39] <zyga> I just want to get a compiled kernel that works
[06:39] <kapputu> firefox that comes with ubuntu seems to be slow
[06:40] <zyga> all previous attempts (with default configs) couldn't mount my reiserfs /
[06:40] <Pablo> does anyone have a link for the win32 codecs?
[06:40] <steig> kapputu: i agree
[06:40] <soundray> zyga: so it's a learning thing more than anything else?
[06:40] <jbroome> !w32codecs
[06:40] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/
[06:40] <zyga> even after adding reiser support as a static stuff
[06:40] <steig> ff is slow on ubuntu
[06:40] <Pablo> ty
[06:40] <kapputu> pablo  - /msg ubotu w32codecs
[06:40] <gnomefreak> kapputu: do a google search for firefox tweaks
[06:40] <zyga> soundray: learing now but I'm trying to build a live cd based on ubuntu
[06:40] <Paj> what is the command to copy a directory from an ssh server ?
[06:41] <jah_raztah> in openbox under gnome what to u press on the keyboard to bring up the run menu, default was ALT+F2 but that don't work anymore for some reason
[06:41] <N6REJ> morning everyone... I want to know how to pass a file that has a list of filenames that I want apt-get to install to apt-get
[06:41] <kapputu> gnomefreak, did you take out the default firefox and install a new one?
[06:41] <steig> Paj: cp?
[06:41] <gnomefreak> no kapputu
[06:41] <Paj> doesnt seem to work :(
[06:41] <soundray> zyga: are you aware of the dfsbuild package
[06:41] <N6REJ> paj scp
[06:41] <soundray> zyga: ?
[06:42] <rem_> scp -r ?
[06:42] <kapputu> actually 5.10 is slow compared to warty
[06:42] <zyga> soundray: no, checking
[06:42] <sunshine82> im tryin to set up evolution can someone please help
[06:42] <kapputu> I know I don't have a great machine
[06:42] <gnomefreak> kapputu there are tweaks to make it run faster
[06:42] <Paj> hmm
[06:42] <rem_> anyone has experience stting up opengroupware server .. ?
[06:42] <zyga> soundray: hmm
[06:42] <kapputu> gnomefreak, where?
[06:42] <rem_> on ubuntu
[06:42] <Paj> i want to copy the file from ssh server to my own pc
[06:42] <soundray> zyga: Haven't tried it myself, but it does sound promising.
[06:43] <zyga> soundray: I'd like to build a small cd, only basic stuff and 3 tools, I was also willing to use live-scripts.org stuff
[06:43] <gnomefreak> kapputu do a search for firefox tweaks
[06:43] <jake37> Paj > try this link  http://www.akadia.com/services/ssh_tips_and_tricks.html
[06:43] <rem_> scp -r "foldername" user@yourpc:/~
[06:43] <zyga> (squashfs + unionfs are better than what ubuntu is using now)
[06:43] <Paj> k thx
[06:43] <rem_> -> paj
[06:43] <N6REJ> anyone know how to output a list of files to apt-get?
[06:43] <kapputu> gnomefreak, I'm talking about Ubuntu being slow in general - I have 256mb on a P-III 850 HP Laptop
[06:43] <gnomefreak> im not on my ubuntu pc rtight now and the updates for this are taking forever or i would get you the sites i use
[06:44] <rem_> anyone has experience stting up opengroupware server .. ?
[06:44] <rem_> on ubuntu
[06:44] <soundray> zyga: I used to compile kernels all the time. Nowadays I'm grateful for Ubuntu because most kernels *just work*
[06:44] <soundray> * stock kernels
[06:44] <gnomefreak> kapputu: that is between you and ubuntu and your pc you asked about firefox
[06:44] <v4lo> anyone ahve experience palying half life1 with wine on ubuntu?i cant make it work.
[06:44] <zyga> I want to build any kernel that just works here :)
[06:44] <kapputu> ubuntu has taken off mainly due to the support
[06:44] <zyga> each attempt lasted for 3 hours and failed
[06:45] <adriyel> zyga, ever heard of genkernel?
[06:45] <kapputu> people here want to help which is one of the main reasons I stayed with Ubuntu
[06:45] <zyga> adriyel: no, checking :-)
[06:45] <zyga> adriyel: is it gentoo specific/
[06:46] <mustard5> v4lo, you would have more luck with cedega I would think
[06:46] <adriyel> zyga, *shrugs* I've used it in slackware...
[06:48] <x_line> would anyone know anything about setting up my linux router to route to the internet through my dail-up connection, I am using ubuntu breezy
[06:48] <LoneWolf071> is there anby limit to the number of outbound/inbound ports i can connect to?
[06:49] <LoneWolf071> cause when i have like 5 apps all connecting to the net, one always goes down, like GAIM
[06:50] <LoneWolf071> is there anby limit to the number of outbound/inbound ports i can connect to?
[06:50] <adriyel> LoneWolf071, no, not to my knowledge
[06:50] <sunshine82> i want to setup my hotmail on evolution does anyone know how
[06:50] <wuhu> ah forget it, this is stupid.  going back to windows
[06:50] <LoneWolf071> wuhu, what's up?
[06:50] <antonio_> phlipmode: dime a ver tiguere
[06:50] <phlipmode> good idea:P
[06:51] <LoneWolf071> wuhu, what's the problem?
[06:51] <wuhu> nothing works.  i can't install a damn thing.
[06:51] <LoneWolf071> apt-get
[06:51] <wuhu> "the pack is not installable"
[06:51] <wuhu> "can't install"
[06:51] <yancheng> is the any download tool like get right, download accelerator in ubuntu?
[06:51] <soundray> x_line, can I have more detail on your setup. Serial modem on your Ubuntu box?
[06:51] <LoneWolf071> wuhu you of course need to read some thing to learn
[06:51] <erUSUL> LoneWolf071, there are 65536 - 1024 ports in a machine
[06:51] <wuhu> thanks, that's helpful
[06:51] <ubuntu> ubuntu "crashed" and now I can't open the filesystem explorer
[06:51] <ubuntu> can I restart it or something
[06:52] <wuhu> i've spent 2 weeks trying to install basic things on ubuntu.  this is dumb
[06:52] <ubuntu> s/this/you
[06:52] <Ophiocus> heh
[06:53] <jonaz> heyhey
[06:53] <ramblingturtle> ubuntu: ctrl + alt+ backspace
[06:53] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell wuhu about repos
[06:53] <ubuntu> I'm listening to virgin radio classic rock
[06:53] <ubuntu> haha
[06:53] <jonaz> is there a way to create an HFS+ partition?
[06:53] <ubuntu> "unexpected end of stream"
[06:53] <jonaz> i installed ubuntu on my ibook
[06:53] <jonaz> and left 40gigs unformated
[06:53] <jonaz> but the os x installer does not want to install os x
[06:53] <deus___> Im having problems with my printer
[06:54] <deus___> i use the hp printers, from foomatic?  and when i test the printer which is a Deskjet 840c
[06:54] <deus___> It keeps printing a page with some jibberish on the first line
[06:54] <pierre__> anyone know where i can find the source code for 2.6.12-9-k7
[06:54] <jonaz> no  i want to try to create an hfs+ partition and install it then with the installer
[06:54] <deus___> im running amd64
[06:55] <ubuntu> ctrl alt backspace didn't help
[06:55] <jonaz> no=now
[06:55] <bluefrog-10> pierre__, linux-headers
[06:55] <ubuntu> or was it just a really funny joke
[06:55] <iceman> Offtopic question, I need a Distro that can install and server Internet conectivity to a bunch of window systems and server as a web based server ...
[06:55] <pierre__> bluefrog -- msg me please
[06:55] <robotgeek> jonaz: aghh..always install the pesky OS first!
[06:56] <unit01_> hello again
[06:56] <bluefrog-10> pierre__, install linux-header for your K7 in synaptic...
[06:56] <soundray> Hi unit01_
[06:56] <jonaz> i tried that, too. but os x did not let me resize the partition :-/
[06:56] <ramblingturtle> ubuntu: it was not a joke sometimes it works for me and others it does not but I thought it was worth a try. so you will have to either do a normal reboot or try restarting that application
[06:56] <unit01_> hello soundray
[06:56] <unit01_> i just got back, rebooted the os
[06:56] <Ahmuck> is there a way to get UTF-8 JS encoding to work from the live cd >
[06:56] <ubuntu> how do I restart "that" application?
[06:56] <robotgeek> jonaz: you gotta do it from the first screen itself
[06:56] <unit01_> and changed some lines in the sources list
[06:56] <axel> hello, i have a quick question, to encode mp3 which is better between "joint stereo" and "stereo" ?
[06:56] <unit01_> some invalid urls in there
[06:56] <ramblingturtle> ubuntu: what are you trying to do exactly
[06:56] <ubuntu> I can't right-click the desktop or open the file system explorer
[06:57] <unit01_> just recently had dinner so now i got the patience :)
[06:57] <robotgeek> jonaz: as soon as you boot, pick the File menu, and partition manager. it will not allow you to partition later
[06:57] <ramblingturtle> ubuntu: did you just install or did the problem just start on it own
[06:57] <Lardarse> where is the "Synaptic Package Manager" ?
[06:57] <robotgeek> jonaz: i mean after you see the gui for installation and stuff
[06:57] <ubuntu> ramb: I just installed
[06:57] <soundray> Lardarse, System-Administration
[06:57] <ubuntu> but problem started after some application crashed
[06:58] <gnomefreak> Lardarse, click system and than the 2nd one down
[06:58] <gnomefreak> i cant think of it right now
[06:58] <jonaz> robot, you mean the os x installer?
[06:58] <ramblingturtle> ubuntu what application and what did you install on
[06:58] <gnomefreak> ty soundray
[06:58] <robotgeek> jonaz: yeah, the OS X installer
[06:58] <Lardarse> ok, i see it...
[06:58] <jonaz> i looked there :-/
[06:58] <ubuntu> amd64
[06:58] <wuhu> ok, i'm out, going to try this.  ubuntu has until the end of the day to impress me or it's back to windows
[06:58] <jonaz> with the disk utility
[06:58] <ubuntu> I don't know what application
[06:58] <neeja> wuhu: you arent trying hard enough
[06:58] <ReleaseX> does anyone here play glest?
[06:58] <ramblingturtle> ubuntu: have you done a update since you installed
[06:58] <gnomefreak> wuhu: your gonna need more time than a day
[06:58] <ubuntu> no
[06:59] <DShepherd> good morning everyone. Having your cup or brown sugar (ubuntu) i see
[06:59] <DShepherd> of*
[06:59] <Secreth`X> Ok, printer question.. I added my printer, but It doesnt print :x
[06:59] <unit01_> soundray, doesn't ubuntu have anything directly from the start that can handle deb files?
[06:59] <neeja> good morning shepherd
[06:59] <gnomefreak> wuhu: you didnt like windows first time you used it did you?
[06:59] <wuhu> i've already given it 2 weeks.  what the hell else more do i need.  at least windows works right out of the box
[06:59] <ubuntu> haha
[06:59] <ramblingturtle> ubuntu: go into synaptic and do a upgrade do you know what I am talking about
[06:59] <ubuntu> yes
[06:59] <soundray> unit01_, sure it does. What's the prob right now?
[06:59] <Lardarse> wuhu: windows ! fun
[06:59] <Lardarse> oops
[06:59] <Lardarse> !=
[06:59] <ubotu> Lardarse: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:59] <ramblingturtle> then try that
[06:59] <Lardarse> hmm...
[07:00] <mommer> Hi. I'm having troubles with the printer. The driver seems to be there, and I've installed it, but it just won't print anything (yes, it is connected and on, has paper, etc)
[07:00] <ubuntu> rambling: I'm running a live CD
[07:00] <mommer> any ideas?
[07:00] <unit01_> soundray, i try to open the deb package with archive manager and it says archive type not supported
[07:00] <gnomefreak> !windows
[07:00] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, windows is unnecessary, everything runs in Linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office or find an !alternative, or what you remove to make room for kubuntu
[07:00] <Lardarse> what's the easier way to upgrade without a CD?
[07:00] <blueblood> !themes
[07:00] <Secreth`X> !printer
[07:00] <ramblingturtle> well that is a whole other thing altogether
[07:00] <ubotu> I heard printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[07:00] <Manny> hi
[07:00] <djk_> Secreth`X: usb printer? if so, check if you used the right usb port when adding it.
[07:00] <Manny> is there also a developer channel?
[07:00] <soundray> unit01_, man dpkg-deb
[07:00] <pierre__> i am trying to build a program called TrueCrypt
[07:01] <robotgeek> blueblood: check art.gnome.org
[07:01] <gnomefreak> Lardarse, upgrade to breezy?
[07:01] <pierre__> and it asked for the source directory
[07:01] <ramblingturtle> ubuntu: i thought you said you installed
[07:01] <blueblood> robotgeek, yea, the bot told me :)
[07:01] <Secreth`X> djk_, thats right, usb. But it didnt ask me to give a port of the usb :x
[07:01] <Lardarse> gnomefreak: yeah, i only had the hoary CD :-/
[07:01] <neeja> !themes
[07:01] <robotgeek> blueblood: ah, okay..
[07:01] <zyga> Manny: ubuntu-devel
[07:01] <pierre__> it couldnt find stdlib.h
[07:01] <Manny> zyga, thanks
[07:01] <ubuntu> ramblingturtle, running the live CD is close enough to installing
[07:01] <blueblood> robotgeek, got any favorit theme?
[07:01] <pierre__> when  I gave /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-k7 as the source directory
[07:01] <pierre__> any ideas?
[07:01] <ubuntu> ramblingturtle, I don't want to install if applications are going to unexpectedly crash
[07:02] <djk_> Secreth`X: i don't know how it's done in gnome, but in kde's printing manager you have to choose the usb port.
[07:02] <anathema_> is there a way to get rid of the damn error any time trying to play a wmv that says its not looking like what it is supposed to be so ive got to right click and select the prog to open it with
[07:02] <anathema_> i just wanna double click and open it
[07:02] <ramblingturtle> ubuntu: no it is not close to install it is something completely different
[07:02] <mindtzar> hey, could someone tell me how to hide a folder from view?
[07:02] <Secreth`X> Im in the printing manager right now
[07:02] <ubuntu> ramblingturtle, it's more likely to crash?
[07:02] <gnomefreak> theres a wiki page on it for the most part it is changing you sources to breezy from hoary and changing the backports than apt-get update than apt-get dist-upgrade but i advise looking at the wiki page if you give me a min ill try to find it
[07:02] <robotgeek> blueblood: http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7813/screenshot16gl.png
[07:02] <djk_> anathema_: set a file association.
[07:03] <ReleaseX> does anyone here play glest?
[07:03] <ubuntu> what's the default root password?
[07:03] <DShepherd> mindtzar: put a dot in front of the name example ".folder"
[07:03] <gerbma1> ubuntu, i don't think there is one
[07:03] <djk_> ubuntu: there isn't any.
[07:03] <ubuntu> for the livecd
[07:03] <adriyel> ubuntu, isn't any.
[07:03] <anathema_> djk_: i did, i selected to open it wiht mplayer
[07:03] <ubuntu> because you aren't asked to set it
[07:03] <ramblingturtle> ubuntu: i have nevered had great experiences with live cd's but that is just me you may want to try a dual boot or something to get a real idea
[07:03] <ubuntu> blank pass?
[07:03] <djk_> ubuntu: livecd dont have a root pw
[07:03] <adriyel> ubuntu, there is not one.
[07:03] <mindtzar> thank you DShepherd
[07:03] <mindtzar> :)
[07:03] <anathema_> but it still gives me the error
[07:03] <Lardarse> ubuntu: go into th users screen and change it there if you plan to do anything that will need it
[07:03] <DShepherd> mindtzar: np
[07:04] <ubuntu> I just like running everything as root
[07:04] <ubuntu> it feels good
[07:04] <Lardarse> lol
[07:04] <ubuntu> webserver etc
[07:04] <Lardarse> i had  friend klike that once
[07:04] <djk_> anathema_: weird, better ask someone who uses mplayer.
[07:04] <DShepherd> does anyone here use a browser other than firefox under ubuntu?
[07:04] <soundray> Lardarse, bet he got wiped out by an accidental rm -f /
[07:05] <gnomefreak> Lardarse,  the page is in the topic just type /topic and click the link for upgrading
[07:05] <ubuntu> dsheperd I use wget
[07:05] <Lardarse> i have the page...
[07:05] <DShepherd> ubuntu to surf?
[07:05] <Lardarse> but i don't understand what i have o do
[07:05] <anathema_> its not mplayer
[07:05] <gnomefreak> DShepherd, i have oprea and lynx and links2
[07:05] <ubuntu> yeah
[07:05] <anathema_> its gnome
[07:05] <carambol> Dsheperd,opera
[07:05] <robotgeek> DShepherd: there's lynx/elinks/link2
[07:05] <ubuntu> wget and cat
[07:06] <mikelinux> im downloading opera now
[07:06] <gnomefreak> Lardarse, that link is prolly gonna be the easiest to understand
[07:06] <mikelinux> i have a question
[07:06] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: how is sound in flash?
[07:06] <DShepherd> robotgeek: links2 is GUI?
[07:06] <mindtzar> see when renaming something, how do you do it
[07:06] <mindtzar> because the help for it is ocnfusing me
[07:06] <carambol> mikelinux: use opera-static
[07:07] <mindtzar> i tried rename folder newname
[07:07] <simprix> I just did a dist-upgrade to breezy and it didn't upgrade mythtv. Im trying to install it and I get errors like this The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:07] <robotgeek> DShepherd: you can run it with the -g for links graphic
[07:07] <simprix>   mythtv: Depends: mythtv-frontend (= 0.18.1-5) but it is not going to be installed
[07:07] <pierre__> Has anyone tried to build TrueCrypt on Ubuntu 5.10 for the k-7 kernel
[07:07] <simprix>           Depends: mythtv-backend (= 0.18.1-5) but it is not going to be installed
[07:07] <simprix> E: Broken packages
[07:07] <simprix> But when i do them by themselves i get more errors like that
[07:07] <DShepherd> robotgeek: ok. How is sound in flash for links?
[07:07] <gnomefreak> simprix, dont paste in here use pastebin
[07:07] <mikelinux> why my firefox close sometimes without reason
[07:07] <gnomefreak> im not sure i havent used oprea in a few weeeks
[07:07] <mwe> mindtzar: mv
[07:07] <robotgeek> DShepherd: hmm, you got me on that one. i don't do flash
[07:08] <gnomefreak> mikelinux, that sounds like its crashing
[07:08] <annaandlev> hi
[07:08] <unit01_> soundray, weird, i've downloaded the deb file and am now following the instruction from the skypehowto but i get a error that says no such file or directory
[07:08] <mikelinux> yup
[07:08] <gnomefreak> i dont use flash either but i think i have it
[07:08] <annaandlev> every time my computer idles with ubuntu, the mouse goes black
[07:08] <mikelinux> and i have the latest version
[07:08] <gnomefreak> latest stable version?
[07:08] <DShepherd> robotgeek: http://www.quake4game.com/ and anybody else who is not using firefox check the link and tell me if you have sound?
[07:08] <annaandlev> or has wierd, grayscale colors
[07:09] <mikelinux> yes
[07:09] <Lardarse> gnomefreak: do i have to change the "distributiuon" for the update and security update entries ?
[07:09] <robotgeek> DShepherd: no flash here, sorry
[07:09] <soundray> unit01_, pls paste the recent commands and output via http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[07:09] <DShepherd> robotgeek: ok
[07:09] <[miles] > hello again... anyone running Open-Xchange on Ubuntu?
[07:09] <DShepherd> robotgeek: why not? religious thing? :)
[07:09] <annaandlev> every time my computer idles with ubuntu, the mouse goes black or has wierd, grayscale colors
[07:10] <annaandlev> what can i do?
[07:10] <gnomefreak> Lardarse, you have to change hoary to breezy everywhere you see hoary in your sources list change it to breezy
[07:10] <Lardarse> ok
[07:10] <simprix> I just did a dist-upgrade to breezy and it didn't upgrade mythtv. Im trying to install it and I get errors like this http://pastebin.com/427999
[07:10] <kapputu> are there any performance tweaks for Ubuntu??
[07:10] <robotgeek> DShepherd: it's mostly not useful. too many flash ads. slow machine :)
[07:10] <unit01_> soundray, i did, it's under unit01_
[07:10] <DShepherd> robotgeek: that's one way to look at ti
[07:10] <DShepherd> it*
[07:11] <mwe> kapputu: disable any service you don't use is one
[07:11] <pavka> anybody here use xen from http://mirror.clarkson.edu/pub/distributions/xenophilia/xen-debs/ubuntu on ubuntu?
[07:11] <DShepherd> robotgeek: opera is in the repos?
[07:11] <mikelinux> kapputu are there any performance tweaks for Ubuntu??.................yes
[07:11] <kapputu> mwe, where do I find a list of services running
[07:11] <mikelinux> nop
[07:11] <robotgeek> DShepherd: probably not, no
[07:11] <gnomefreak> DShepherd, no
[07:11] <kapputu> mikelinux, I tried googling for ubuntu performance tweaks - couldn't find much
[07:12] <mikelinux> wget http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/infosys/browsers/opera/linux/850/final/en/i386/shared/opera_8.50-20050916.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb
[07:12] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: robotgeek ok, So I need to go to the site then?
[07:12] <superbeast> how could i open a window as root?
[07:12] <superbeast> without terminal
[07:12] <gnomefreak> simprix, it looks like that you dont have the right repos enabled
[07:12] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: you use opera without flash too?
[07:12] <unit01_> soundray, my system is on a scsi disk if it makes any difference
[07:12] <mikelinux> superbeast how could i open a window as root?........................sudo nautilus
[07:12] <mikelinux> on a terminal
[07:12] <superbeast> thanks
[07:12] <mwe> kapputu: I think there is a GUI tool in gnome. I don't remember the name though since I do it from the console
[07:13] <gnomefreak> DShepherd, go to www.oprea.com download the ubuntu version and save it to desktop
[07:13] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: will do thanks. do you use opera with flash too?
[07:13] <gnomefreak> im not on my ubuntu pc right now so im not useing oprea at all
[07:13] <gnomefreak> no ds
[07:13] <soundray> unit01_, do you want to try the skype package that I made for my breezy installation?
[07:13] <kapputu> what's vino server?
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> last i tried Opera - i had to download the 'static' compiled version.. they may of fixed that by now.
[07:14] <mikelinux> im testing now vmware workstation and works fine
[07:14] <simprix> gnomefreak: this is what i have http://pastebin.com/428006
[07:14] <unit01_> soundray, where can i get it?
[07:14] <pavka> soundray: skype is debianized :)
[07:14] <DiViNe200> j /privat
[07:14] <dave> Hi im having problems installing wine if any1 will help me pls
[07:14] <[A] ndy80> uhm... about Opera.... when I start it, it says: Could not start plug-in executable 'operamotifwrapper'........ please install motif. I Installed Motif, lesstiff ecc.. but I still get this message. Which one package do I need exactly?
[07:15] <DiViNe200> have anybody a psp? and know how to convert a video to psp format ?
[07:15] <soundray> pavka, I just fixed a dependency problem in that debianized skype.
[07:15] <gnomefreak> simprix, thats all but the backports but myth tv isnt in backports
[07:15] <nalioth> [A] ndy80: install libmotif-dev
[07:15] <carambol> you need opera-static
[07:15] <nalioth> [A] ndy80: or get the static opera pkg ,as carambol says
[07:15] <gnomefreak> simprix, have you tried it from synaptic?
[07:15] <pavka> soundray: I havent any problem with it
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> yea - Opera-Static. :() guess they havent fixed that yet.
[07:15] <DiViNe200> have anybody a psp? and know how to convert a video to psp format ? pleaseeeeeeeeeee
[07:16] <slew> hi, i have a windows partition that im not able to write to, i tried changing the owner from root to me, but it wont let me, saying its read-only. how do i change the permissions, and ownership of this partition?
[07:16] <kapputu> Firefox takes up a whopping 110MB
[07:16] <Xyc0> kapputu: no it doesnt
[07:16] <superbeast> anyone know how to install yamipod?i put the file in usr/lib like it said and it isn't working
[07:16] <[A] ndy80> nalioth: I first check for libmotif-dev to be available
[07:16] <sunshine82> i want to setup my hotmail on evolution does anyone know how
[07:16] <Xyc0> kapputu: I have it on my USB drive 10 MB
[07:17] <pavka> soundray: can U try repository on www.bootsplash.de
[07:17] <kapputu> Xyc0, I'm talking about the memory it takes up while running and this is a fresh Ubuntu installation and I have two tabs open
[07:17] <soundray> unit01_, on pavka's prompt, please paste the ouput from 'dpkg -i ~/skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb' via pastebin.
[07:17] <Xyc0> kapputu: Ah, k saw out of context
[07:17] <soundray> pavka, I don't have a problem with mine. Trying to help unit01_
[07:17] <pavka> :)
[07:17] <DShepherd> question: has anyone....anyone got flash sound to work in a browser other than firefox?
[07:18] <DiViNe200> have anybody a psp? and know how to convert a video to psp format ? pleaseeeeeeeeeee (Sorry for being repeating but i cannot change the format!! :()
[07:18] <unit01_> soundray, pavkas prompt?
[07:18] <kapputu> anyone installed Firefox 1.5??
[07:18] <Xyc0> DShepherd: thats and odd question, yes i got it to work in Mozilla too
[07:18] <gnomefreak> 1.5 isnt stable yet
[07:18] <laga> DiViNe200: i believe that ffmpeg has a psp profile. and search www.digg.com as well
[07:18] <ProN00b> how can i rip totem out of my firefox ?!?!?!
[07:18] <[A] ndy80> nalioth: ok.. I installed libmotif-dev but I still get that error...
[07:19] <kapputu> gnomefreak, haven't had any problems with it on my Windows machine
[07:19] <soundray> pavka says he hasn't got a problem with Skype on Breezy.
[07:19] <ProN00b> how can i rip totem out of my firefox ?!?!?!
[07:19] <gnomefreak> kapputu: to everyones disbelief windows and linux are not alike
[07:19] <Xyc0> ProN00b: totem isnt in firefox
[07:19] <DShepherd> Xyc0: what did you do? did you have to add something the rc file?
[07:19] <Xyc0> ProN00b: are you trying to change file associations
[07:19] <soundray> pavka, sorry, just assuming that 'he' is the appropriate pronoun.
[07:19] <ubuntu> ubuntu listen on any ports by default?
[07:19] <nalioth> [A] ndy80: get the static opera pkg from opera.com
[07:20] <unit01_> soundray, ok i did as you said, still got an error :|
[07:20] <ProN00b> no, i already know how to do that (manually for every type of file), Xyc0
[07:20] <unit01_> soundray, pasted undermy nick
[07:20] <Xyc0> DShepherd: macromedia has binaries that you can use if ubuntu packages dont work
[07:20] <Corin> can someone please tell me the free alternatives to web control panels, such as cpanel, plesk etc....
[07:20] <kapputu> gnomefreak, you mean that firefox installations on Windows and Linux are not alike don't you? No point in being sarcastic
[07:20] <ProN00b> but somehow there seems to be some Totem plugin in my firefox, and i don't seem to be able to see it in extensions, and so i can't remove it, Xyc0
[07:20] <DShepherd> Xyc0: k I can get them on the site?
[07:20] <gnomefreak> no i mean the whole source is different
[07:21] <slew> hi, i have a windows partition that im not able to write to, i tried changing the owner from root to me, but it wont let me, saying its read-only. how do i change the permissions, and ownership of this partition?
[07:21] <Xyc0> DShepherd: what browser you using?
[07:21] <soundray> unit01_, get my dependency corrected package from http://www.soundray.org/skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb
[07:21] <gnomefreak> so if they made windows version stable doesnt mean that linux version is stable
[07:21] <shorty114> is there any document that i can refer to for getting a Microsoft IntelliPoint mouse to work fully on ubuntu?
[07:21] <shorty114> such as the sideways scrolling, extra buttons
[07:21] <DShepherd> Xyc0: epiphany
[07:21] <Xyc0> ProN00b: did you install a totem plugin for firefox?
[07:21] <Ahmuck> ProN00b: edit -- preferences -- file types
[07:21] <gnomefreak> sorry if i came across sarcastic its just everyone sits here and compares windows with linux
[07:21] <soundray> unit01_, pls let me know when you're done as I want to take it off afterwards.
[07:21] <Ahmuck> then edit or remove the file type
[07:21] <superbeast> anyone know how to install Yamipod?
[07:22] <Xyc0> gnomefreak: that is what we do here
[07:22] <Xyc0> gnomefreak: just no fanboy freakouts
[07:22] <ProN00b> Ahmuck, where is that ?
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> slew,  if it was mounted read only. then it will stay read only. Is this a NTFS parttition?
[07:22] <unit01_> soundray, done
[07:22] <soundray> unit01_, does it install with dpkg -i ?
[07:22] <PatrikJohansson> hey guys, how can i make firefox play .mov files on websites???
[07:22] <Ahmuck> edit --> preferences --> downloads --> file types
[07:22] <unit01_> going to try now
[07:22] <annaandlev> every time my computer idles with ubuntu, the mouse goes black or has wierd, grayscale colors
[07:22] <annaandlev> what can i do?
[07:22] <Xyc0> DShepherd: snoop around macromedias site, im not too sure about epiphANY THO
[07:22] <Ahmuck> on your firefox menu bar
[07:23] <ProN00b> Ahmuck, there is nothing in there
[07:23] <DShepherd> Xyc0: ok thanks
[07:23] <ProN00b> and its a firefox plugin, not something external
[07:23] <slew> Dr_Willis, yes
[07:23] <superbeast> anyone know a good podcaster grabber/ ipod syncer?
[07:23] <superbeast> *sync
[07:23] <annaandlev> please help
[07:23] <annaandlev> every time my computer idles with ubuntu, the mouse goes black or has wierd, grayscale colors
[07:23] <Xyc0> PatrikJohansson: you should install the mozilla or firefox plugin for you favorite media player, I use VLC it works great
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> slew,  writing to NTFS - can be very risky i hear
[07:23] <DShepherd> ProN00b: check your plugins folder for firefox...I think it would be safe enought to delete the totem plugin
[07:24] <kapputu> gnomefreak, I don't want to compare Windows with linux but if Firefox supports both Windows and Linux then I would expect 1.5 to be stable on both
[07:24] <ProN00b> where is that folder, DShepherd ?
[07:24] <soundray> annaandlev, do you mean the pointer arrow changes?
[07:24] <mikelinux> how can i get multiple audio output on my soundcard usin ubuntu
[07:24] <PatrikJohansson> Xyc0, can you please tell me how to do so??
[07:24] <annaandlev> soundray, no
[07:24] <mikelinux> i have 2 outputs and only 1 works
[07:24] <ReleaseX> does anyone here play glest?
[07:24] <DShepherd> ProN00b: cd /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[07:24] <slew> Dr_Willis, oh. ok. thanks for saving my partition, i just use it for game playing anyway. =] 
[07:24] <Xyc0> slew: Yea, if you must write to a windows parition, use Fat32 as a mediary
[07:24] <kapputu> you can probably I should not be expecting such things but passing snide comments is not the right reply
[07:24] <annaandlev> well yes
[07:24] <annaandlev> but not the shape
[07:24] <annaandlev> the color
[07:24] <annaandlev> it turns black or grayscale
[07:25] <Secreth`X> Someone here with a webcam?
[07:25] <slew> Xyc0, i was just gonna use it as a back up device
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> slew,  there IS a ext2 file system thing for windows that lets it read/write your linux (ext2/3) partitions.
[07:25] <unit01_> soundray, nope same error as before, think it's something i have to change.
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> slew,  i use that so i can  keep my mp3 and other stuff on a native linux partion these days
[07:25] <robotgeek> Dr_Willis: yes, there is... unfortunately, can't recall the name
[07:25] <unit01_> soundray, the howto mentinos i have to change something in the dependency field
[07:25] <robotgeek> i think fsdriver.org or smthing
[07:25] <Xyc0> slew: Thats what i figured, I use fat32 so both linux and windows can see the parition and read/write stable
[07:26] <Lord2k> Hi, I have a little issue. I'm trying to dual boot Windows XP and Ubuntu. At the moment, I do not have my cd burner, so, I'm forced to use a virtual machine to install directly to a partition. Now, I made a boot file using dd if=/dev/hda6 of=/ubuntu.bin bs=512 count=1. I copied it over to Windows using partition magic, I edit my boot.ini and add c:\Ubuntu.bin="Ubuntu". Now, when I reboot and select Ubuntu from the list, it just sits at a cursor.
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> let me look :P i have it installed
[07:26] <ProN00b> thanks, DShepherd
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> IFS Drivers
[07:26] <slew> Dr_Willis, Xyc0, thanks! i'll get working on it. =] 
[07:26] <DShepherd> ProN00b: worked?
[07:26] <mikelinux> download nero 4 linux
[07:26] <ProN00b> let me try
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. no "about' menu item lol
[07:26] <ProN00b> but there was a totem in there
[07:26] <mikelinux> nerolinux-2.0.0.3b-x86.rpm
[07:26] <mikelinux> S/N: 1A23-0609-4030-2333-6402-0097
[07:26] <gupta> Is there any way to get  rid of sudo and yet retain my home directory?
[07:27] <kapputu> Does anyone know if there are any issues with installing Firefox 1.5 on 5.10??
[07:27] <Xyc0> PatrikJohansson: Have you added your multiverse repositories?
[07:27] <soundray> unit01_, I did that in the package you downloaded. Check that your browser hasn't renamed my deb, since there already was a file by that name in your $HOME.
[07:27] <PatrikJohansson> Xyc0, yeag
[07:27] <Xyc0> gupta: what do you mean, sudo is superuser
[07:27] <DShepherd> kapputu: yes they are issues....
[07:27] <PatrikJohansson> Xyc0, yeah *
[07:27] <Secreth`X> Someone here with a webcam?
[07:27] <gupta> I mean anyway to avoid using sudo without loggin in as root?
[07:27] <ProN00b> worked, DShepherd, thanks
[07:28] <louis_> hi all
[07:28] <kapputu> DShepherd, can you provide some links to those?
[07:28] <unit01_> soundray, no i deleted the others before downloading
[07:28] <Xyc0> PatrikJohansson: in synaptic, look for VLC and install the mozilla plugin.  Everything else should install with it
[07:28] <gupta> sry if its stupid Q
[07:28] <PatrikJohansson> Xyc0, ok, thx
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> kapputu,  you could try the 'autopackage'  version - that way it isntalls for a single user.  But i'd advise just waiting.
[07:28] <DShepherd> ProN00b: good. Now go rule the world!!!
[07:28] <Xyc0> gupta: no stupid question, removing your sudo is unessisary
[07:28] <kapputu> Dr_Willis, should I try out Opera in the meanwhile? Firefox takes up way too much memory
[07:28] <Secreth`X> !webcam
[07:28] <ProN00b> don't worry, i will, DShepherd
[07:28] <Xyc0> gupta: Trust me, it is way easier then constantly changing to root
[07:28] <DShepherd> kapputu: you could google or check #firefox at irc.mozilla.org
[07:29] <soundray> unit01_, can you try a 'apt-get --purge remove skype' and then dpkg -i again?
[07:29] <Xyc0> kapputu: um, the memory you are seeing is a bit off
[07:29] <gupta> NO, xyc0, i want root permission to do eveything with my user
[07:29] <ProN00b> gupta, you san su to root, or get a rootshell with sudo
[07:29] <djk_> !java
[07:29] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:29] <Xyc0> gupta: no you dont
[07:29] <djk_> !javadebs
[07:30] <ubotu> Sun Java debs packaged for Ubuntu. Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy))
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> kapputu,  it does? Never noticed. I perfer firefox to opera.
[07:30] <kapputu> DShepherd, is there anyway I can keep myself informed about a 1.5 release for Linux?
[07:30] <Determinist> what user does the apache daemon use by default? i'm trying to set writing permissions to /var/www/ folder and cant seem to locate it
[07:30] <gupta> K, thx Xyc0
[07:30] <ProN00b> also you can add your user to the root group soemhow, gupta
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> kapputu,  the extra featres i have for firefox really blow away opera and the others.
[07:30] <superbeast> this is so hard to install files
[07:30] <Xyc0> gupta: that is what windows does, that is how virus spread
[07:30] <DShepherd> kapputu: yeah...sure....... #firefox channel
[07:30] <gupta> I wanna do it for a temp period of time :)
[07:30] <kapputu> Dr_Willis, yes I'd prefer firefox any day but it's hogging too much memory and I don't have a lot of it
[07:30] <robotgeek> Determinist: www-data
[07:30] <DShepherd> kapputu: their site is good too
[07:30] <cycom> arg.
[07:30] <ProN00b> Xyc0, i have never had a virus on windows, i think it'd be safe for me to be root ^^
[07:30] <Determinist> robotgeek, thanks
[07:30] <kapputu> I have three tabs open and it takes 110MB of VM
[07:30] <Xyc0> ProN00b: that is what you think
[07:31] <superbeast> how do i install america's army, i am having trouble with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AmericasArmy what would i type in terminal if i saved it to desktop?
[07:31] <cycom> ProN00b: you've never had a virus that you've NOTICED
[07:31] <PatrikJohansson> Xyc0, it still says that totem cant play the plugin :D (not surprised, hehe), how do i disable the totem plugin??
[07:31] <gupta> Me too never get a virus on Win
[07:31] <thechitowncubs> kapputu, linux is designed to use memory different than windows
[07:31] <Xyc0> ProN00b: Ive meet the people who program melitious text
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> kapputu,  hmm.. never noticed it taking that much. :P i'd switch to a lighter window manager - then i would a different browser.
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> kapputu,  how much memory ya got anyway?
[07:31] <unit01_> soundray, this is odd i get a error message but now i see it installed
[07:31] <DShepherd> ProN00b: PatrikJohansson needs your help :)
[07:31] <michel> can someone help me i cant get the sount to work
[07:32] <kapputu> Dr_Willis, I have thought about it - what would you recommend?
[07:32] <Xyc0> PatrikJohansson: Totem can, I told you I like VLC.  If you want to use totem, look for totem
[07:32] <kapputu> I have 256MB
[07:32] <soundray> unit01_, do you want to paste that error or is it short?
[07:32] <ProN00b> lol, cycom, do you think you are safe with sudo ? i could say the same of you, just that its even easyer to implement stealth virii on linux
[07:32] <cycom> I'm having this obnoxious problem with my wirless dying every time I plug in SOME usb devices.  My GPS and mouse caues my wireless to die, but my usb keyfob does not.
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> kapputu,  proberly fluxbox or similer. seem to be the most upto date/lite window managers
[07:32] <PatrikJohansson> Xyc0, ok
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> kapputu,  or the light-icewm
[07:32] <Xyc0> If you are having memory problems, puppy linux is awsome
[07:32] <PatrikJohansson> Xyc0, but if i want to use vlc??
[07:32] <unit01_> soundray, want me to paste in chan, pm or internet log?
[07:32] <Xyc0> PatrikJohansson: did you install it?
[07:32] <soundray> unit01_, pastebin pls
[07:32] <robotgeek> PatrikJohansson: cd ~/.mozilla/plugins/ and move the offending plugins to another folder
[07:33] <michel> can someone help me with my sound?
[07:33] <superbeast> how do i install america's army, i am having trouble with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AmericasArmy what would i type in terminal if i saved it to desktop?
[07:33] <Determinist> robotgeek, www-data is set to have it's home folder as /var/www/. shouldnt it have permissions to write/read from that folder?
[07:33] <PatrikJohansson> Xyc0, yeah in synaptic
[07:33] <Xyc0> michel: dont ask to ask, just ask away
[07:33] <joosep> could anyone recommend a good audio player for ubuntu?
[07:33] <kapputu> Dr_Willis, 256MB is less for Gnome?
[07:33] <Xyc0> PatrikJohansson: you also need to install w32codecs
[07:33] <robotgeek> Determinist: i'm not too strong on that one, sorry
[07:33] <michel> can someone help me to get my sound to work??
[07:33] <Xyc0> !tell PatrikJohansson restricted
[07:33] <Determinist> robotgeek, k, thanks mate
[07:34] <superbeast> o man this ubuntu is hard i should just go back to windows xp
[07:34] <ProN00b> joosep, bmp (beep-media-player)
[07:34] <dritterpunkt> joosep try amarok
[07:34] <kapputu> how do I change file associations?
[07:34] <unit01_> soundray, i've pasted it there now
[07:34] <Paradoxx> superbeast: nooooooooo
[07:34] <PatrikJohansson> MSG ubotu
[07:34] <Xyc0> what is the ubotu command for restricted formats?
[07:34] <joosep> i'm looking for something like amarok, which I could also use for managing my music
[07:34] <cafuego_> !restricted
[07:34] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:34] <dritterpunkt> yea, with a library
[07:34] <superbeast> paradoxx, well ubuntu is hard to install stuff with
[07:35] <robotgeek> joosep: amarok is the r0x0rs! the best media player out there, beats winamp/whatever out there
[07:35] <thechitowncubs> HAHAHA
[07:35] <michel> how can i play music?
[07:35] <thechitowncubs> the bears game is crazy
[07:35] <dritterpunkt> ;) the roxors ;))
[07:35] <thechitowncubs> michel, what kind of music
[07:35] <soundray> unit01_, do a 'apt-get install libqt3-mt' pls
[07:35] <Paradoxx> superbeast: are you serious? you find synaptic hard?
[07:35] <DShepherd> kapputu: man chmod
[07:35] <joosep> robotgeek: yes it is, but i don't want to install kdelibs
[07:35] <michel> mp3 i cant hear no sound at all
[07:35] <robotgeek> joosep: ahh..
[07:35] <kapputu> DShepherd, I meant file associations with applications
[07:35] <dritterpunkt> ahhh
[07:35] <superbeast> paradoxx yes
[07:35] <robotgeek> !tell michel about mp3
[07:35] <dritterpunkt> and yummie?
[07:35] <Paradoxx> superbeast: what is heard about it?
[07:35] <michel> i have no sount at all
[07:35] <robotgeek> joosep: i mean, it's worth it!
[07:36] <unit01_> soundray,  ok i did that
[07:36] <ProN00b> joosep, bmp (beep-media-player), its a fork of xine, still in development, v good
[07:36] <DShepherd> kapputu: right-click the file-> props-> OPen with tab
[07:36] <soundray> unit01_, skype me then.
[07:36] <dritterpunkt> does BMP have a library?
[07:36] <joosep> i'm currently using banshee, but IMO amarok kicks the crap out of it
[07:36] <michel> my sound doesnt work at all
[07:36] <Kaiza> hi..
[07:36] <thechitowncubs> michel, have to followed the RestricedFormats guide on the wiki?
[07:36] <thechitowncubs> michel, what kind of sound card?
[07:36] <ProN00b> nope, nothing inbuild, dritterpunkt
[07:36] <unit01_> soundray, it worked before even though i got the error message. that's the odd thing
[07:37] <dritterpunkt> :/
[07:37] <dritterpunkt> ty
[07:37] <michel> onboard soundccard
[07:37] <robotgeek> joosep: just install the libs :)
[07:37] <Paradoxx> ProN00b: y is it that, for me, xmms can play .wmas etc but beep can't?
[07:37] <superbeast> paradoxx, what is the thing you speak of again?
[07:37] <kapputu> DShepherd, is there a way to make Firefox open a particular with an application automatically instead of asking me what to do with it?
[07:37] <joosep> robotgeek: but they're like 80 MB, + i fear that most of that nice integration won't work then
[07:37] <thechitowncubs> michel, what motherboard
[07:37] <soundray> unit01_, I think it uses that lib only for popup msg's or something like that.
[07:37] <Paradoxx> superbeast: what is hard about synaptic? what are you having difficulty with?
[07:37] <DShepherd> a particular file?
[07:37] <michel> mm dont know a pentium 2 from compaq
[07:38] <DShepherd> kapputu: a particular file?
[07:38] <necator> is there a way to view whats running and turn it off and such like processes?
[07:38] <robotgeek> joosep: ah, not to worry. other than size, the rest works fine everywhere
[07:38] <gnomefreak> michel: has the sound worked on that computer before?
[07:38] <kapputu> DShepherd, for example a WMA file
[07:38] <unit01_> soundray, the program works now, though i've forgot my login -.-
[07:38] <michel> yes with windows it worked:p
[07:39] <dmg|lnx>  does ubuntu have an ftp client installed?
[07:39] <thechitowncubs> michel, what have you done to test it?
[07:39] <gnomefreak> michel: is that the only sound card in the pc?
[07:39] <soundray> unit01_, just get a new one, they'll delete your old one after a while.
[07:39] <joosep> robotgeek: oh well then...
[07:39] <michel> i tries another soundcard to
[07:39] <DShepherd> kapputu: yeah, right click -> properties -? Open with
[07:39] <kapputu> DShepherd, if I chose to use mplayer to play .wma files I keep getting asked each time what to do with .wma files
[07:39] <robotgeek> dmg|lnx: get gftp for gui. lftp/ncftp for cli
[07:39] <snprron> Hello all!
[07:39] <gnomefreak> michel: is it connected to the pc right now?
[07:39] <michel> yes
[07:39] <DShepherd> kapputu: if firefox is not listed....click add
[07:39] <gnomefreak> the one you tried
[07:39] <jean> hi
[07:39] <Albie1> Hello
[07:40] <gnomefreak> ok good
[07:40] <dmg|lnx>  does ubuntu have an ftp client installed?
[07:40] <korio> my movies lag in mplayer what can i do?
[07:40] <soundray> unit01_, ...of it having remained unused.
[07:40] <gnomefreak> go into your bios and disable the onboard sound card
[07:40] <superbeast> man
[07:40] <michel> i cant get to my bios
[07:40] <jean> how do i type 2 commands on the command line, like 1. pon then 2. firefox http://google.ca for example
[07:40] <snprron> Is anyone here using Ubuntu on a laptop?
[07:40] <gnomefreak> plug in the new card and than lets see what happens
[07:40] <unit01_> soundray, i suppose soundray is your skype name?
[07:40] <robotgeek> korio: does pause and play work?
[07:40] <DShepherd> kapputu: firefox should be in the list
[07:40] <superbeast> paradoxx, can i install a .tar.gz file with synaptic?
[07:40] <Albie1> I'm new to Ubuntu. Normally, i do it with Windows XP
[07:40] <korio> robotgeek, lemme check
[07:41] <djk_> which packages do i have to download and burn on a cd to install xfce on a laptop without inet access? --currently installing kubuntu on it.
[07:41] <michel> i cannot get into the bios
[07:41] <michel> dont know how
[07:41] <korio> robotgeek, yep pause works
[07:41] <PatrikJohansson> is it safe to uninstall totem??
[07:41] <mikelinux> i want to get work my 2 outputs from the soundcard under linux
[07:41] <mikelinux> have u any idea?
[07:41] <robotgeek> michel: hit F2 / del when your PC boots
[07:41] <djk_> michel: usually by pressing DEL at bootup
[07:41] <kapputu> thanks DShepherd
[07:41] <DShepherd> kapputu: worked?
[07:41] <michel> ok i try
[07:42] <gnomefreak> michel: when the computer starts up and you get the compaq screen does it say to press something to get into settings?
[07:42] <Paradoxx> superbeast: i'm new aswell, and for a tar.gz i think you have to go thru some extraction process or sothing like that... but i'm siure most of the apps you use, you can get them in the universe
[07:42] <Paradoxx> and that automatically deals with all that stuff for you
[07:42] <gnomefreak> dell i know os F2
[07:42] <gnomefreak> is*
[07:42] <korio> robotgeek, any suggestions?
[07:42] <robotgeek> korio: vlc
[07:42] <adriyel> superbeast, tar.gz's are usually source packages, and they cannot be installed from synaptic, you have to compile the source by hand yourself
[07:43] <adriyel> needless to say, this is not something a n00b should attempt
[07:43] <superbeast> how do i compile?
[07:43] <adriyel> sigh
[07:43] <superbeast> adriyel, how do i compile things?
[07:43] <adriyel> ./configure && make && make install
[07:43] <gnomefreak> <<<doesnt touch tar.gz if i can avoid them
[07:43] <robotgeek> superbeast: tar -zxf <file.tgz>, the cd . then read the README file.
[07:43] <superbeast> o man i'm confused
[07:43] <superbeast> bye
[07:43] <DShepherd> kapputu: I guess it worked then...OK...go and rule the world :)
[07:43] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:43] <superbeast> got to go
[07:43] <gnomefreak> already
[07:43] <kapputu> DShepherd, nope it didn't work
[07:44] <DShepherd> kapputu: oh ok :(
[07:44] <adriyel> ...
[07:44] <adriyel> he left
[07:44] <robotgeek> superbeast: what are u looking to compile?
[07:44] <kapputu> firefox screwed up and started opening new tabs like crazy
[07:44] <DShepherd> it doesnt open in firefox by defaullt?
[07:44] <gnomefreak> adriyel: i think he got scared
[07:44] <kapputu> DShepherd, nope
[07:45] <DShepherd> your programs dont know how to handle wmv files
[07:45] <joosep> is there a way to get these exotic mouse buttons to work?
[07:45] <adriyel> gnomefreak, I've seen him around before, he'll come back
[07:45] <joosep> i have a 5 button mouse
[07:45] <Albie1> I to
[07:45] <gnomefreak> adriyel, they always do :)
[07:45] <joosep> i need to get the side buttons to work as back/forward in FF
[07:45] <kapputu> DShepherd, I think I didn't make myself clear
[07:45] <kapputu> I can open WMA files using mplayer
[07:45] <Albie1> Its possibe
[07:45] <kevieboy123> Yes sure
[07:45] <DShepherd> kapputu: ok
[07:45] <kapputu> but if I go to a site and open a .wma file, firefox asks me if I want to open it or save it
[07:46] <xfan> kapputu : install w32codecs
[07:46] <kapputu> If I say open it, it's opened using mplayer
[07:46] <Albie1> 15
[07:46] <borgista> is that bad kapputu ?
[07:46] <Albie1> 12 its good to be back
[07:46] <DShepherd> kapputu: thats good so far
[07:46] <kapputu> and if I check the 'Do this for files like this from now on' it doesn't remember that setting
[07:46] <dmg|lnx>  does ubuntu have an ftp client installed?
[07:46] <Ahmuck> 1.5 ?
[07:46] <Albie1>  The inside colour is 09
[07:46] <robotgeek> dmg|lnx: sudo apt-get install gftp
[07:46] <borgista> You could also use the mplayerplug-in to open the videos embedded in firefox, kapputu
[07:47] <kapputu> next time I open a .wma file I have to manually say open it instead of opening it in mplayer automatically
[07:47] <dmg|lnx> robotgeek: thanks
[07:47] <kapputu> borgista, it's a .wma file
[07:47] <Albie1> its not
[07:47] <DShepherd> kapputu: yeah.ok...you my want to try a mplayer plugin for firefox.. otherwise....that's how it was made to work
[07:47] <kapputu> I have mplayer plugin installed which works for .ram files
[07:47] <borgista> I know kappu
[07:47] <borgista> kapputu, i know
[07:47] <borgista> install mplayer-mozilla kapputu
[07:47] <kapputu> hmm apt can't find it
[07:48] <kapputu> is it mozilla-mplayer?
[07:48] <adriyel> dyslexia kills.,
[07:48] <kapputu> ok got it
[07:48] <kapputu> yeah I have it installed and it's the latest version
[07:49] <DiViNe200> Unsupported codec for output stream #0.1
[07:49] <DiViNe200>  <---- what can I do?
[07:49] <borgista> you probably have to install gstreamer for totem
[07:49] <DiViNe200> i'm trying to convert an avi to psp format with ffmpeg as you help me but now it appears that: Unsupported codec for output stream #0.1
[07:49] <carambol> here is opera -static:ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/850/final/en/i386/
[07:50] <gnomefreak> i remember sitting days on end scrolling through synaptic with all the repos enabled than someone taught me apt-get :)
[07:50] <DShepherd> thanks carambol
[07:50] <_smd_> Is there a way to get streaming media in XMMS, similar to they way Winamp does?
[07:50] <kapputu> borgista, can I chose to open .wma files using mozilla-mplayer?
[07:50] <carambol> DSheperd: and use gxine for streams
[07:50] <DShepherd> carambol: ok
[07:50] <DiViNe200> i'm trying to convert an avi to psp format with ffmpeg as you help me but now it appears that: Unsupported codec for output stream #0.1...pleasee
[07:51] <borgista> not really kapputu gstreamer-totem is blocking it.
[07:51] <ProN00b> _smd_, use bmp, its a fork of xmms, and it supports mp3 streams (you can get some from www.shoutcast.com which is the same source winamp uses)
[07:51] <robotgeek> lsof /dev/dsp
[07:51] <zoexii> hey, I have questions about gcc:  Is it possible to have multiple versions installed at once?  it looks like synaptic will let me do this..  Is it a bad idea?
[07:52] <robotgeek> zoexii: not really, it's okay.
[07:52] <adriyel> zoexii, yes its possible, and no its not necessarily a bad idea, many kernel developers have multiple gcc's installed
[07:52] <DiViNe200> i'm trying to convert an avi to psp format with ffmpeg as you help me but now it appears that: Unsupported codec for output stream #0.1...pleasee :(
[07:52] <kapputu> borgista, I removed gstreamer-totem and installed totem-xine
[07:52] <gnomefreak> zoexii, yes you can
[07:52] <adriyel> zoexii, typically, gcc-3.3 or gcc-3.4 and 2.9 along with possibly gcc4
[07:52] <_smd_> ProN00b: ok I will look at that
[07:52] <gnomefreak> i have 4.0 and 3.4
[07:52] <adriyel> thats what I have installed.
[07:52] <borgista> why did you install totem-xine? kapputu
[07:52] <zoexii> hmm, ok, so can a makefile choose which compiler is used?
[07:53] <kapputu> borgista, I read somewhere that it's better for playing video than totem-gstreamer
[07:53] <zoexii> I am trying to build qemu, and it complains that gcc appears to be v 4.x
[07:53] <borgista> don't use either...use mplayer kapputu
[07:53] <kapputu> borgista, I'm using mplayer
[07:53] <kapputu> but I want to open .wma files automatically
[07:53] <Kaiza> does anyboduy know if is there any importan diference between /etc/network/interfaces ubunto and debian??
[07:54] <borgista> ok kapputu re-install mplayer-mozilla
[07:54] <kapputu> what's the apt command?
[07:54] <kapputu> apt-remove?
[07:54] <gnomefreak> that i dont know when im compiling my own stuff i use gcc <program>.c -o <program> and it works fine
[07:54] <adriyel> gnomefreak, dittoz.
[07:54] <gnomefreak> apt-get remove
[07:54] <DiViNe200> i'm trying to convert an avi to psp format with ffmpeg as you help me but now it appears that: Unsupported codec for output stream #0.1...pleasee :(
[07:54] <kapputu> yep
[07:55] <gnomefreak> apt-get remove -purge i think works too
[07:55] <gnomefreak> or no - sign
[07:55] <DShepherd> dwight@shepherd:~/.mozilla/plugins$ sudo aptitude search build-essential
[07:55] <DShepherd> id  build-essential
[07:55] <Kaiza> is it ok this /etc/network/interfaces --->http://pastebin.com/428069 ??
[07:55] <DShepherd> srry for the paste
[07:55] <gnomefreak> DShepherd, u need it?
[07:55] <kapputu> borgista, do I need to close firefox when I install it?
[07:56] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[07:56] <borgista> Just restart it kapputu
[07:56] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: no....wrong window...
[07:56] <trappist> it's build-essential
[07:56] <gnomefreak> or change the spelling to be right
[07:56] <gnomefreak> trappist, i know i keep adding s to it for some reason
[07:56] <DShepherd> gnomefreak:  yeah I know...I was going to ask about aptitude search and wat does...... id mean?
[07:56] <gnomefreak> ive installed it like 16-17 times
[07:57] <kapputu> nope same problem borgista
[07:57] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: it seems to be some status indicator...but I'm not sure
[07:57] <ProN00b> yay, i can finaly play mov files in mplayer perfectly
[07:57] <trappist> gnomefreak: I know what you mean.  I think it SHOULD be named build-essentials.
[07:57] <zodium> my new desktop needs to get here already so I can get off this windows laptop
[07:57] <zodium> :(
[07:57] <borgista> Sorry then kapputu
[07:57] <DiViNe200> i'm trying to convert an avi to psp format with ffmpeg as you help me but now it appears that: Unsupported codec for output stream #0.1...pleasee i'd be very pleased if you help me
[07:57] <kapputu> is mozilla-mplayer an application or a plugin?
[07:57] <ProN00b> trappist, u sure its with the s ?
[07:57] <borgista> plugin
[07:57] <neeja> zodium: install ubuntu on your laptop
[07:57] <trappist> ProN00b: it's not with the s.  I was just saying I thought it should be.
[07:57] <kapputu> these things need to be fixed
[07:58] <Kaiza> i am having networking problems. Using dhcp i have no problem. but if a use static (as i am used to do with my debian) i can get others pcs in the lan, but router not. Neither inet. any help -->http://pastebin.com/428069
[07:58] <gnomefreak> is GNU emacs the same as xemacs and emacs21?
[07:58] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, what u want to ask is: how do I manually associate an extension with a program. What file do I have to modify...
[07:58] <kapputu> it's annoying if you can't do silly things like this
[07:58] <kapputu> bluefrog-10, nope
[07:58] <Xyc1> How many watt power supply should I get for my amd64 bit system?
[07:58] <zoexii> robotgeek, adriyel, gnomefreak, you all seem to know many things about gcc's... I just finished installing gcc 3.4, yet the configure file for qemu gives a warning that gcc appears to be 4.x...  Is there a trick to get it to see version 3.4 ?
[07:58] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, well then u don't know what u're asking..
[07:59] <kapputu> How do I make firefox remember that .wma files are to be automatically open with mplayer just like it remembers that .pdf files are to be opened with Acrobat Reader
[07:59] <robotgeek> zoexii: try export $CC= <path to your gcc>
[07:59] <ProN00b> Kaiza, configure your router, and try setting it as gateway
[07:59] <kapputu> I don't want to be asked every time if I want to open it with Mplayer
[07:59] <gnomefreak> zoexii, is this something you wrote?
[07:59] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, cause if right click and assign doesn't work, ur only choice is to change it manually in an xml file or something like it
[07:59] <traveller> what is the package name to install mod-rewrite?
[08:00] <gnomefreak> zoexii, dont forget to install the gcc package
[08:00] <Kaiza> pridkett, router is ok. cause i have 3 pcs working as static. and with this same pc (in dewbian) with the same ip static, works
[08:00] <kapputu> I think I'm not making myself clear
[08:00] <ProN00b> kapputu, there is a checkbox, something like remember this choice, to always select mplayer
[08:00] <kapputu> I give up
[08:00] <gnomefreak> not just gcc 3.4 but you also need gcc
[08:00] <Kaiza> ProN00b, , router is ok. cause i have 3 pcs working as static. and with this same pc (in dewbian) with the same ip static, works
[08:00] <EasterSunshine> hi all. i was having trouble upgrading kaffeine, apparently the server is not carrying the deb anymore. what can i do?
[08:00] <kapputu> ProN00b, yes there is and it doesn't work for .wma files
[08:00] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, if firefox doesn'yt do it it means you have either not removed totem plugins and or have vlc installed
[08:00] <zoexii> gnomefreak, not at all, It is something I am trying to make work.  I installed gcc 3.4 with synaptic, it should be there.
[08:00] <trappist> traveller: apache-common
[08:00] <DiViNe200> i'm trying to convert an avi to psp format with ffmpeg as you help me but now it appears that: Unsupported codec for output stream #0.1...pleasee i'd be very pleased if you help me
[08:00] <kapputu> bluefrog-10, how do I remove my totem plugins and yes I just installed vlc but I have been having this problem before that
[08:01] <traveller> trappist: if i'm using apache2 i'm guessing i should get apache2-common?
[08:01] <gnomefreak> zoexii, in synaptic you will see <gcc> you need that also it wont have numbers after it
[08:01] <trappist> yep
[08:01] <ProN00b> Kaiza, maybe wrong gateway, seriously, your debian might use dhcp for that, and still use a static ip
[08:01] <trappist> traveller: apt-file search mod_rewrite.so
[08:01] <trappist> traveller: if you don't have it, apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update
[08:01] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, remove the totem plugins in firefox/plugin directory, and get rid of vlc otherwise u're dead in the water as well
[08:01] <zoexii> robotgeek, what is the default path to my gcc?  I'm guessing it is in /usr/bin?
[08:01] <traveller> trappist: ah..thanks
[08:01] <trappist> zoexii: yes
[08:02] <robotgeek>  zoexii : whereis gcc
[08:02] <EasterSunshine> zoexii: `which gcc`
[08:02] <trappist> or which gcc
[08:02] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: when I do a search with aptitude I get 'id' and 'v' in front of the some of the packages,,what do they mean?
[08:02] <gnomefreak> lol
[08:02] <gnomefreak> DShepherd, i dont know i dont search often in terminal
[08:02] <gnomefreak> i know what is on my pc always
[08:03] <kapputu> bluefrog-10, get rid of vlc altogether ???
[08:03] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, yes
[08:03] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: ok...kool
[08:03] <Kaiza> ProN00b, nop. i have 2 debian using 192.168.1.3/4. and all ok. This pc also work with window$ with .2 But with ubuntu...ping to router fails, but ping to others pcs works,
[08:03] <michel> how can i let my sount t5o work?
[08:04] <zoexii> EasterSunshine, robotgeek, trappist, Ok, I see both gcc 3.4 and 4.0 in /usr/bin/... so the export $CC= /usr/bin/gcc3.4 will tell the configure file to use 3.4 instead of 4.0?
[08:04] <bluefrog-10> kapputu, well u can try with vlc installed but if doesn't work u know what to do...
[08:04] <kapputu> bluefrog-10, just to get a better understanding of why I'm doing something can I know why?
[08:04] <gnomefreak> i might start for librant tho
[08:04] <robotgeek> zoexii: i sure hope so :)
[08:04] <thrush> DiViNe200: didnt u hear? sony is evil now ;)
[08:04] <trappist> zoexii: if the configure file respects that environment variable, which it should.  ./configure --help to be sure.
[08:04] <kapputu> what's the firefox installation directory?
[08:05] <necator> how do i burn a cd in ubuntu?
[08:05] <necator> what programs do it good and easy?
[08:05] <zoexii> trappist, ./configure --help only gives an error about gcc being 4.x :)
[08:05] <necator> preferablly something with a gui
[08:05] <trappist> zoexii: try update-alternatives
[08:05] <EasterSunshine> can someone give me a url to the newest kaffeine deb for ubuntu hoary? apt couldn't retrieve it
[08:05] <necator> can someone tell me what program i can use to burn cds?
[08:05] <kapputu> how do I get smb support for mplayer?
[08:06] <robotgeek> zoexii: sudo update-alternatives --config gcc
[08:06] <trappist> zoexii: as in update-alternatives --set gcc /usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[08:06] <gnomefreak> necator, hold on im thinking of the name
[08:06] <adriyel> server message block? @ kapputu
[08:06] <cafuego_> why would mplayer need a network fs?
[08:06] <Kaiza> what is the meaning of "v" when you do a aptitude search package?
[08:06] <kapputu> adriyel, I don't get it
[08:06] <adriyel> kapputu, what did you mean by smb?
[08:06] <EasterSunshine> kapputu: mount the smb share
[08:06] <gnomefreak> what is the one its brown something or black something :(
[08:06] <adriyel> server message block? samba (same thing)? super mario brothers?
[08:06] <adriyel> talk man!
[08:07] <ompaul> EasterSunshine, >>apt-cache policy kaffeine<< doing that in a terminal does that return a package name?
[08:07] <kapputu> EasterSunshine, it's mounted but mplayer doesn't play it
[08:07] <necator> anyone know a program i can use to burn cds?
[08:08] <gnomefreak> adriyel, what is the name of the gnome burner
[08:08] <Trackilizer> k3b
[08:08] <gnomefreak> its gnomebaker?
[08:08] <gnomefreak> k3b is not gnome
[08:08] <kapputu> adriyel, there is something called as 'context'
[08:08] <Trackilizer> necator, k3b has to be one of the best out there.
[08:08] <EasterSunshine> ompaul: yes, it returns 0.6-1, and my current installed version is 0.6-0, however, the forums mention 0.7-0 being available
[08:08] <adriyel> kapputu, there is something called as "being polite"
[08:08] <kapputu> did you mean talk 'please talk' or talk as in 'talk of the town'
[08:08] <zoexii> robotgeek, trappist, ok tried those two, it returns "no alternatives for gcc"
[08:08] <dmg|lnx> anyone get nerolinux to work on ubuntu?
[08:08] <adriyel> take your attitude elsewhere
[08:08] <Trackilizer> But you can still use it in gnome.
[08:08] <ompaul> EasterSunshine, that would be for breezy
[08:09] <Trackilizer> dmg, yes, i did.
[08:09] <kapputu> adriyel, that's what I should be telling you
[08:09] <gnomefreak> necator, you can use k3b it is easy and good but you need the kde dependencies to install it
[08:09] <trappist> zoexii: as a last resort, you could always: ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc
[08:09] <dmg|lnx> track: you did the debian version?
[08:09] <necator> i found one called gnome baker
[08:09] <robotgeek> uggh
[08:09] <necator> its asking me to choose a speed to burn
[08:09] <borgista> necator, serpentine works well.
[08:09] <necator> what is good for a speed?
[08:09] <dmg|lnx> how did you install?  i couldnt figure it out :P
[08:09] <traveller> i have made a symlink to /etc/apache2/mods-available/rewrite.load in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled and then restarted, but it still doesn't seem to be working
[08:09] <gnomefreak> thats a good one also
[08:09] <adriyel> kapputu, watch it. I'm not in the mood
[08:09] <trappist> necator: depends on your burner and your media
[08:09] <gnomefreak> i liked it
[08:09] <traveller> is there anything else that i need to enable?
[08:09] <borgista> necator, use the speed of your burner
[08:09] <kapputu> adriyel, I cannot talk based on your mood
[08:10] <ompaul> EasterSunshine, give me a min
[08:10] <necator> where do i check speed of my burner? :p
[08:10] <EasterSunshine> ompaul: can i install only kaffeine from the breezy repos and nothing else? without breaking my system. this version of kaffeine is very buggy
[08:10] <adriyel> kapputu, you can however refrain from speaking to me in the manner as you did earlier, it was rude, and I was attempting to be humorously constructive. Go choke on a pine-cone punk a55
[08:10] <DaMouse> hey.. what's the default root password?
[08:10] <zoexii> robotgeek, export $CC= <path to your gcc> I think I had a syntax problem trying this, it returned something about "not a valid identifier."
[08:10] <Kyral> Quick Ext3 question. If the partition is going to be used mainly for mass storage of files bigger than 100 MB, should I specify -T largefile4?
[08:10] <gnomefreak> thought kaffeine was a kde program
[08:10] <borgista> necator, it's on the front of the burner
[08:11] <borgista> usually
[08:11] <trappist> adriyel: why don't you take your mood elsewhere.
[08:11] <robotgeek> zoexii: one sec
[08:11] <kapputu> adriyel, I thought you were rude when you gave those expansions for smb
[08:11] <necator> mine dosent say borgista
[08:11] <adriyel> kapputu, no that was humor, you should try it some time, major stress reliever
[08:11] <dmg|lnx> how do you install nerolinux?
[08:11] <borgista> then just choose the highest one.
[08:11] <dmg|lnx> i couldnt do it w/ ubuntu..?
[08:11] <kapputu> adriyel, you are making a fool of yourself
[08:11] <necator> whats burnfree and dummy write settings mean
[08:11] <trappist> adriyel, kapputu: this is a support channel guys.  kindly take it elsewhere.
[08:11] <borgista> dmg|lnx, use K3B. Don't use nerolinux
[08:11] <Kyral> adriyel, kapputu, #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:12] <Xyc1> yes please
[08:12] <borgista> dmg|lnx, or use Serpentine
[08:12] <kapputu> trappist, I'm here to learn and make my experience with ubuntu better
[08:12] <dmg|lnx> yeah i have k3b installed now, but would like to try nerolinux
[08:12] <trappist> necator: dummy write won't actually write, and burnfree tries to prevent buffer underruns.
[08:12] <dmg|lnx> i gues syoud have to install the debian package?
[08:12] <necator> so its good to turn on burnfree then?
[08:12] <kapputu> I don't want to have sarcastic comments passed on me just because someone is not in the mood
[08:12] <gnomefreak> i never heard of nerolinux
[08:12] <trappist> necator: sure
[08:12] <Kyral> yes
[08:13] <Xyc1> TAKE IT OUTSIDE FELLAS #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:13] <Kyral> Xyc1, no caps either :P
[08:13] <ompaul> EasterSunshine, this is all that is available in the release world ftp://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kaffeine/  if I was you I would dist-upgrade and then work from there
[08:13] <weob> ok alright finally got static to work on my wifi excellent
[08:13] <Xyc1> why is my name xyc1, gah brb
[08:13] <kapputu> What to install and what to remove - totem-xine and totem-gstreamer?
[08:13] <dmg|lnx> any idea how to upgrade to the newest version of xchat as well?  or do i wait for ubuntu to update their package?
[08:14] <RoelRoel> is there any way to play .wmv's?
[08:14] <necator> remove btoh kapptu
[08:14] <necator> and then download vlc
[08:14] <robotgeek> zoexii:  try  export CC=<your gcc>
[08:14] <Kyral> dmg|lnx, you have to wait
[08:14] <necator> roelroel just install vlc media player it plays pretty mcuh anything in one program.
[08:14] <kapputu> ok bluefrog-10 just told me to remove vlc
[08:14] <gnomefreak> the version ubuntu is using is latest stable version of x-chat
[08:14] <dmg|lnx> kyral: k thx
[08:14] <Kyral> necator, VLC doesn't work with Compositing
[08:14] <Kyral> the various Xine-Frontends do
[08:14] <gnomefreak> im kinda fond of bitchx :)
[08:14] <kapputu> which is the firefox installation directory?
[08:15] <necator> kyral i thought he just needed codecs :p
[08:15] <zoexii> robotgeek, with the "<>"s correct?
[08:15] <EasterSunshine> ompaul: a dist-upgrade would require me to download 70.0 mb and i don't want to rape the servers like that when  kaffeine is the only thing i need to upgrade
[08:15] <Kyral> necator, well
[08:15] <robotgeek> zoexii: no, without the <>'s
[08:15] <Kyral> yah :P
[08:15] <dmg|lnx> how do you install debian packages?
[08:15] <ompaul> dmg|lnx, you wait - or you do it yourself according to the rules of xchat building - then you enjoy it
[08:15] <damora> hi is there a Firefox 1.5 repository for ubuntu?
[08:15] <Kyral> If you don't use Compositing, then VLC owns
[08:15] <kapputu> EasterSunshine, what's Kaffeine?
[08:15] <gnomefreak> dpkg -i
[08:15] <donza> damora: nope
[08:15] <donza> damora: you have to download it from mozilla.org
[08:15] <Ahmuck> kapputu: front end for xine
[08:15] <damora> thank you donza
[08:16] <donza> damora: there is a good guide at ubuntuforums.org for installing firefox 1.5
[08:16] <ompaul> EasterSunshine, 70 megs ain't a lot for them - the one I pointed you at servers terrabytes a day - unless you have charges accruing to you based on your online time/download quantity
[08:16] <pepe> alguien espaol aqui
[08:17] <pepe> ??
[08:17] <ompaul> I think the local expression is "silly amounts of bandwidth"
[08:17] <ompaul> !es
[08:17] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:17] <EasterSunshine> ompaul: i wonder what happens if i dpkg -i the deb from that link you gave me...if that fails, i will just grab the 70 megs
[08:17] <damora> i already read it, but i dont want to screw the synaptic configuration up
[08:18] <damora> Hola Pepe, yo soy de argentina
[08:18] <Xyc0> damora: make a backup of the repository list, then if you messup you can copy it back over
[08:18] <DShepherd> do i have to use dpkg to install debs or can i use aptitiude?
[08:18] <ompaul> EasterSunshine, go for it - but it is 1/70th of what you need - now you have to track that package - thus removing the prime reason most people run stable o/ss
[08:19] <Xyc0> DShepherd: aptitude used dpkg to install aswell
[08:19] <DShepherd> Xyc0: thanks
[08:19] <Xyc0> or at least a form of it
[08:19] <Xyc0> dpkg is the debian package system installer
[08:20] <aljosa> who is default user for postgres 8.0 installation on ubuntu?
[08:20] <pepe> hola, damora, me puedes ayudar? es la primera vez que uso Ubuntu y estoy un poco perdido
[08:20] <DiViNe200> hola pepe yo tb ablo espaol
[08:20] <DiViNe200> q necesitas?
[08:20] <borgista> list
[08:20] <Xyc0> yea, if you speak in english others can help too
[08:20] <DiViNe200> i'm trying to convert an avi to psp format with ffmpeg as you help me but now it appears that: Unsupported codec for output stream #0.1...pleasee i'd be very pleased if you help me
[08:20] <mikonian> hi there
[08:21] <pepe> saber muchas cosas, gracias, primero, sabeis si hay algun CD-burner eficiente para GNOMe?
[08:21] <mikonian> can someone help me install java?
[08:21] <mikonian> i'm trying to get azureus installed
[08:21] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-es for spanish
[08:21] <zoexii> robotgeek, ok, I am looking inside the configure file, and I think maybe it checks for the presence of gcc 4.x, and then prints an error regardless of wheter gcc 3.x is available.  I'm not sure.  If you don't mind looking I can paste what I'm looking at in #flood
[08:21] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell mikonian about java
[08:21] <DiViNe200> Xyc0 he said that it's his first time using ubuntu and wants to know if there is any good burner for gnome
[08:21] <DiViNe200> pepe yo uso k3b
[08:21] <robotgeek> zoexii: use the pastebin,
[08:21] <robotgeek> zoexii: it will stay aournd for a while then
[08:21] <pepe> ah k3b funciona en Gnome? es que no tengo ni idea
[08:22] <zoexii> robotgeek, pastebin?
[08:22] <mikelinux> si
[08:22] <mikelinux> funciona
[08:22] <EasterSunshine> ompaul: man i'm an idiot, i tried dpkg -i on the kaffeine deb, it didn't work, and now apt-get dist-upgrade wont work, complaining that kaffeine has unmet dependencies
[08:22] <mikelinux> pero necesitaras unas librerias de kde
[08:22] <DiViNe200> usa apt-get o synaptic
[08:22] <mikelinux> yup
[08:22] <damora> another question: is it posible to open Nautilus with <windows key>+e like windows?
[08:22] <Xyc0> DiViNe200: I know what he said, i read spanish rather well
[08:22] <mikelinux> te descargara alrededor de 36mb
[08:22] <mikelinux> para instalar k3b
[08:22] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell zoexii about the pastebin
[08:22] <DiViNe200> ...sorry :$
[08:22] <pepe> gracias, y algn dvd ripper para linux? es que suelo colgar DIVX y Xvid
[08:22] <Xyc0> damora: sure, you can program almost any keyboard shortcut
[08:22] <mikelinux> acidrip
[08:22] <mikelinux> mencoder
[08:23] <mikelinux> dvdrip
[08:23] <ompaul> EasterSunshine, dpkg -r kaffeine << may help
[08:23] <mikelinux> buscalos en tus repositorios del apt
[08:23] <damora> i tried usin metacity but it doesnt work
[08:23] <pepe> repositorios de apt? que es eso?
[08:23] <sewoyl> hello I can't access my router's config through http ... 'connection refused'
[08:23] <Ep|phany> hi im sharing a printer from my windows pc over my network how do i print from my ubuntu laptop to that printer?
[08:23] <robotgeek> damora: System -> Preferences -> Shortcuts
[08:23] <EasterSunshine> ompaul: i tried that, but kubuntu-desktop depends on it
[08:23] <Coburn> someone can help me with rox with mount of device???
[08:23] <mikelinux> sino busca los repositorios en www.apt-get.org y aadelos a tu sourcelist
[08:24] <EasterSunshine> ompaul: and a whole bunch of things depend on kubuntu-desktop
[08:24] <ompaul> !tell pepe about apt
[08:24] <pepe> what's apt
[08:24] <mikelinux> apt=synaptic=aptitude
[08:24] <ompaul> EasterSunshine, ehh *-desktop is a meta package
[08:24] <EasterSunshine> ompaul: should i forcefully remove it?
[08:24] <administrador> ...
[08:24] <sewoyl> Ep|phany, I think you can just use the printing wizard in gnome
[08:24] <Xyc0> pepe: /j #ubuntu-es, para  espanol
[08:24] <ompaul> EasterSunshine, I would not care if it was there or not - it is a way to bring lots of stuff onto themachine
[08:25] <sewoyl> Ep|phany, it should allow you to connect to that printer
[08:25] <zoexii> robotgeek, right on, I pasted it there, it's definately the part of the config file that produces the error message, but I'm not certain of how it works or how to interpret it.
[08:25] <Ep|phany> k let me try
[08:25] <Ep|phany> where is gnome
[08:25] <Coburn> someone can help me with rox with mount of device???please???
[08:25] <_smd_> ProN00b: I have installed BMP thank you so much i have radio now!
[08:25] <Xyc0> damn gnome running off?
[08:26] <b1n0ry> someone mentioned a gui frontend to apt...
[08:26] <robotgeek> zoexii: ./configure --help | less' and/or README or INSTALL file
[08:26] <Xyc0> b1n0ry: synaptic
[08:26] <sewoyl> Ep|phany, gnome is yourinux desktop, unless you are running Kubuntu
[08:26] <EasterSunshine> ompaul: ok i'm on the dist-upgrade step, thx a lot, i tihnk i can take it from here
[08:26] <sewoyl> your linux*
[08:26] <Ep|phany> okay
[08:26] <ompaul> EasterSunshine, #kubuntu also exists for kubuntu users :-)
[08:26] <ProN00b> _smd_, personally, i also like streamtuner, its an interface to shoutcast and some more things
[08:26] <sewoyl> Ep|phany, foow those menus : System> Administration>Peinting
[08:26] <Ep|phany> wheres the printer wizard then i tried system __> printing and added the printer but it didnt work
[08:27] <Ep|phany> it adds fine but doesnt print
[08:27] <robotgeek> zoexii: plus, tell me the url to the pastebin
[08:27] <EasterSunshine> ompaul: well kaffeine isn't part of kde so i thought i would get the same help in either channel
[08:27] <sewoyl> Ep|phany, hmm can you print from any other remote workstation?
[08:27] <b1n0ry> Xyc0, thanks
[08:27] <Ep|phany> i only have 1 other pc and that pc is the one connected to the printer
[08:28] <_smd_>  ProN00b: I am just happy I can listen to something else than my downloads, right now... and i actually got it installed with little to no problems as I have no clue about doing things with my computer..
[08:28] <zoexii> robotgeek, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4494
[08:28] <ompaul> EasterSunshine, ahh your there - thats good :) I was pointing it out to you incase you did not use it yet
[08:28] <EasterSunshine> ompaul: usually its kind of empty
[08:29] <sewoyl> Ep|phany, not sure i can help you :(
[08:29] <ompaul> EasterSunshine, ahh
[08:30] <gnomefreak> GNUemacs same as xemacs??????/
[08:30] <sewoyl> can anyone help me ? I can't ping nor access my router through http ... but I'm on the net
[08:30] <robotgeek> zoexii: ./configure --disable-gcc-check
[08:31] <zoexii> robotgeek, ok, was I right then? about it displaying the error regardless of whetere 3.x was available?
[08:32] <gnomefreak> sewoyl, if your on the net why are you wanting to ping your router?
[08:32] <robotgeek> zoexii: yeah, it checks for gcc 4.0, and doesn't check your CC, i guess
[08:32] <weob> ok who has been able to get wine .9 beta working on ubuntu?
[08:32] <HiddenFly> Anyone here with working Ventrilo?
[08:33] <sewoyl> gnomefreak, Well for some reason I want to change some settings
[08:33] <HiddenFly> Client software that is.
[08:33] <ompaul> EasterSunshine, that last one was for i
[08:33] <ompaul> EasterSunshine, that last one was for u
[08:33] <pepe> thanks everybody, gracias a todos
[08:33] <weob> nobody using the new wine on ubuntu?
[08:33] <weob> everyone uses cedega for gaming ?
[08:34] <EasterSunshine> ompaul: i don't see why so kde is so uncommon...maybe it's just me but i see almost nothing attractive in gnome
[08:34] <Ophiocus> does onyone know if cd juicer interferes with the proxy service?
[08:34] <weob> its cuz there are more apps for gnome
[08:34] <weob> that's all
[08:34] <weob> the apps are there
[08:34] <weob> and that's why it is where it is in popularity
[08:34] <gnomefreak> EasterSunshine, its not that its uncommon its that ubuntu=gnome and kubuntu=kde
[08:34] <ompaul> EasterSunshine, beauty etc
[08:35] <weob> you can apply different themes and make it look completely different
[08:35] <sewoyl> ClearLooks rocks! :p
[08:35] <mikonian> i've got java 1.5 installed, thanks
[08:35] <ushooz> I prefer Gnome. KDE is not bad. Gnome has the apps and tools I like and it feels more like my Mac
[08:36] <gnomefreak> i agree with ishooz
[08:36] <weob> ya
[08:36] <weob> but i just prefer the kde filebrowser over gnome's
[08:36] <gnomefreak> kde is a fine desktop but it looks and reminds me too much of windows
[08:36] <shingoki> Gnome is good apart from functionality
[08:36] <EasterSunshine> ompaul: i don't want to start a desktop suite war here, everyone has his or her own preferences
[08:36] <sewoyl> the overloaded Konqueror's GUI makes me feel bad I like clean and sleek design
[08:36] <DiViNe200> i'm k.o. what happens with ffmpeg!!!!! it appears that: Unsupported codec for output stream #0.1 help meee pleaseee
[08:36] <shingoki> some stuff in KDE just works better, like scp browsing, large files in kwrite etc.
[08:37] <Kromonos> /usr/local/games/dockingstation/dstation-install: line 913: /usr/local/games/dockingstation/langpick: cannot execute binary file << What happend there?
[08:37] <shingoki> yeah a lot of KDE stuff has too many options on the top level
[08:37] <DiViNe200> the codec unsuported is mp3!!!
[08:37] <Sionide> !midi
[08:37] <ubotu> rumour has it, midi is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736
[08:37] <DiViNe200> i'm k.o. what happens with ffmpeg!!!!! it appears that: Unsupported codec for output stream #0.1 help meee pleaseee
[08:37] <ompaul> EasterSunshine, that one was a bit like going into #gentoo and saying I like ubuntu :-) there is no war, thats what I was saying it has its fans and gnome has its and what I did not say is this >> there is a lot of good in both << and that I believe
[08:37] <shingoki> DiViNe200, I'm guessing you need some kind of mp3 codec, maybe lame?
[08:37] <Ophiocus> DiViNe200, you are still at that? have you tried diferent bitrates, compresion rates?
[08:37] <DiViNe200> yes
[08:37] <shingoki> well it's all good, ubuntu and kubuntu
[08:37] <ushooz> I use to be in the KDE camp until Gnome 2.x came out. I still play with KDE to keep up to speed. Mostly Slackware KDE. I tried Kubuntu and found Slackware KDE to be more up to speed. Kubuntu may have changed though. I tried 5.04 Kubuntu
[08:37] <Ophiocus> do you have the lame codec?
[08:37] <DiViNe200> i've been trying all the day lots of combinations
[08:38] <sewoyl> oh I noticed that Ubuntu won't install properly if chosing the wifi ipw2200bg as default nic in setup
[08:38] <shingoki> I just want kde and gnome to look the same and work together :)
[08:38] <sewoyl> any idea why?
[08:38] <DiViNe200> i've installed lame with synaptic
[08:38] <DiViNe200> is it correct?
[08:38] <shingoki> DiViNe200, you need to find the right command line option for lame then
[08:38] <shingoki> or try transcode or mencoder
[08:39] <DiViNe200> look i put in the shell: ffmpeg -i M4V00001.avi -f psp -r 14.985 -s 320x240 -b 768 -ar 24000 -ab 32 M4V00002.MP4
[08:39] <DiViNe200> if i put -acode mp2 it works fine
[08:39] <DiViNe200> but my psp doesn't accept it
[08:39] <shingoki> DiViNe200, I dunno, transcoding scares the crap out of me
[08:40] <shingoki> DiViNe200, you could try running psp video 9 under wine, that thing is great
[08:40] <shingoki> the ipod version id cool too
[08:40] <sewoyl> anybody got wifi working in breezy?
[08:40] <DiViNe200> it doesn't work too
[08:40] <weob> i do sewoy1
[08:40] <ushooz> sewoyl, yes
[08:40] <DiViNe200> sewoyl i've got wifi working in breezy
[08:40] <weob> depends on wifi card
[08:40] <weob> type of network encryption
[08:40] <weob> and your router
[08:41] <DiViNe200> shingoki psp video 9 doesn't work under wine i don't know wy
[08:41] <sewoyl> cause it detects the card, shows me signal strength but can't seem to access anything
[08:41] <shingoki> DiViNe200, :(
[08:41] <sewoyl> its wep 128bits ...
[08:41] <misfit_toy> sewoyl, check your DNS setting
[08:41] <adriyel> sewoyl, weak encryption, easily cracked.
[08:41] <weob> well tell me your key
[08:41] <weob> and tell me where you live
[08:41] <shingoki> DiViNe200, the only stuff I've done was under mencoder, I never got PSP working that way though. I really hate video conversion stuff.
[08:41] <sewoyl> adriyel, yeah but iont have no neighbor :D
[08:41] <weob> then i will help >:)
[08:41] <adriyel> why use wep at all then?
[08:41] <sewoyl> I don't have any neighbour*
[08:42] <sewoyl> adriyel, you got me there :D
[08:42] <weob> dont use any encryption at all then
[08:42] <DiViNe200> i'll try with mencoder so
[08:42] <DiViNe200> thanks shingoki
[08:42] <mobus> hello
[08:42] <adriyel> sewoyl, my interest is security, but I do believe in practicality.
[08:42] <DiViNe200> if it doesn't work i'll return here xDD
[08:42] <sewoyl> if I chose ascii do I have to write s:WEPKEY
[08:42] <mobus> I'm new to Breezy Badger, but I'm not new to Ubuntu linux, and I need help[
[08:42] <mobus> I am trying to mount my windows partition
[08:43] <sambearpoet> hi! I am running a Dell Dimension with a D Link DWL G510 wireless card and it's JUST not working. Anyone have a clue how to make that on?
[08:43] <weob> dear god what is wrong with beagle - spotlight is so much better
[08:43] <robotgeek> !tell sambearpoet about wireless
[08:43] <ushooz> weo1, I agree :)
[08:43] <JDahl> mobus, google for "fstab ntfs"
[08:43] <mobus> but it keeeps saying I don't have permission.  How do I give myselfd permission to access /media/hda1?
[08:43] <ushooz> weo1, I no longer run Beagle. I will wait for it to becomde more mature
[08:43] <mobus> Yeah, I know how to mount JDahl
[08:44] <mobus> but its already mounted
[08:44] <thrush> mobus: example mount -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/whatever
[08:44] <JDahl> mobus, add something like this: /dev/sda5       /disk1          vfat    users,umask=000 0 0
[08:44] <mobus> and I can't access it
[08:44] <mobus> its already mounted
[08:44] <mobus> but I can't access it due to me not being root
[08:44] <ompaul> mobus, what does your fstab say
[08:44] <mobus> whats the fstab?
[08:45] <sambearpoet> thank you for the link
[08:45] <mobus> hello?
[08:45] <thrush> mobus: umount it. then type 'sudo' what I typed above
[08:45] <sambearpoet> it said it just works, but it doesn't - it *does* recognize it in the device manager, but it doesn't provide wlan0
[08:46] <JDahl> mobus, /etc/fstab is table of filesystems that are automatically mounted at boot
[08:46] <ompaul> mobus, there is a line in your fstab for ntfs if you have done it the way I think you have (/etc/fstab) and slow with the wow people are not that fast sometimes
[08:46] <sambearpoet> of course I think I have the A version not the B version they talk about in the list
[08:46] <ushooz> sambearpoet, that is important difference
[08:47] <ushooz> sambearpoet, they can use different chipsets between revisions
[08:47] <sambearpoet> I bet it is. frustrating because this selfsame card works perfectly with my Mepix Pro distro on my main server
[08:47] <ushooz> sambearpoet, makes it fun for us linux people. I spent and hour at compusa using their internet connection and looking at wireless pcmcia cards for my powerbook
[08:48] <sambearpoet> Of course it's vaguely possible that the card is bad. i need to trouble shoot it more intensely, I suppose.
[08:48] <ushooz> sambearpoet, before I found one I thought would work. I was succesful :)
[08:48] <robotgeek> ushooz: i found that the stupid belkin card has broadcom, and rev 2 has ralink
[08:48] <sambearpoet> Excellent, I'm glad you did
[08:48] <ke_> Can someone tell me why this doesn't work? I'm absoluty sure it's that partition I must mount
[08:48] <sambearpoet> Maybe I will be as lucky
[08:48] <ke_> ke@yndebaws:/media$ sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows -t ntfs
[08:48] <ke_> mount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist
[08:48] <sambearpoet> Thanks y'all
[08:48] <Determinist> anyone here that's managed to make a gdesklet that places notifications work?
[08:48] <ushooz> robotgeek, it is so frustrating to get a nic that does not work
[08:49] <robotgeek> ushooz: same problem, powerbook here too
[08:49] <mobus> ok all mounted thanks
[08:49] <soundray> ke_, what makes you so sure?
[08:49] <ompaul>  ke_ do this "sudo fdisk -l" and put the output in paste.ubuntulinux.nl  i.e. do not paste here
[08:50] <weob> what's the equiv of netstumbler for ubunut?
[08:50] <ushooz> robotgeek, I have a Toshiba laptop with a internal B that works. But I am about to go on a long flight and do not want to lug that beast with me so installed Ubuntu on my Powerbook
[08:50] <EasterSunshine> lol...Totem could not start up: no reason.
[08:50] <gary__> question about Skype and breezy....... Have it working fine except I can't hear it ring when initiating a call or recieving a call. Can anyone help?
[08:50] <ke_> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4496
[08:51] <ushooz> robotgeek, my missing link was wireless on linux side
[08:51] <adriyel> gary__, have you checked options in Skype regarding sound events?
[08:51] <gary__> yes  event sound is greyed out
[08:51] <robotgeek> ushooz: ahh, look at the wireless wiki. i added a link to a site with versions numbers and all that.
[08:51] <ccc_> anyone running ati radeon 9500?
[08:51] <ompaul> ke_, emm /dev/hda1   *           1        1660    13333918+   7  HPFS/NTFS  <<< I think this may have something to do with the problem :)
[08:52] <ke_> Huh?
[08:52] <gary__> everything else works GREAT
[08:52] <weob> holy crap that server was fast - 3mb/s down :D have to remember the name
[08:52] <zack_> im trying to get Java Runtime Environment, should i get the "Linux RPM (self-extracting file)"
[08:52] <DShepherd> zack_: get the deb is possible
[08:52] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell zack_ about javadeb
[08:52] <EasterSunshine> zack_: you should look at the wiki
[08:52] <DShepherd> if*
[08:53] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell zack_ about java
[08:53] <weob> i think there is a security issue in firefox if i may state it
[08:53] <weob> not sure if its specific to ubuntu
[08:53] <ushooz> robotgeek, I think the wiki is what I used. I was on ubuntuforms with a large list pulled up on their demo iMac. I kept going back and forth with cards reading revision numbers until I found one that was said to work. It works like a champ too :)
[08:53] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell zack_ about javadebs
[08:53] <ompaul> ke_, SFS is that Self-certifying File System?
[08:53] <zack_> ill check it out
[08:53] <robotgeek> ushooz: which one?
[08:53] <Sionide> trying to get midi files to play
[08:53] <Sionide> "bash: sfxload: command not found
[08:53] <Sionide> "
[08:53] <Sionide> getting that error :s can anyone help?
[08:54] <ke_> I dunno.. It's just a normal ntfs I guess
[08:54] <Sionide> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 <-- what i'm trying to do
[08:54] <ke_> I use it from my windows partition
[08:54] <gary__> adriyel...   check boxes are all checked for sound events ,  but headphne setting on recieve is greyed out.
[08:54] <ompaul> ke_, your partition table does not think so
[08:54] <adriyel> gary__, sound really isn't my knack in Linux, sorry. My experience is localized in a different area, however I can direct you to a webpage
[08:54] <adriyel> ubotu tell gary__ about sound
[08:55] <ke_> Hmm
[08:55] <weob> anyone end up downgrading to ubuntu hoary to run wine 0.9 ?
[08:55] <ompaul> ke_, read the output you put on in pastebin
[08:55] <ke_> Yeah, I know
[08:55] <ke_> Dunno why
[08:56] <ushooz> robotgeek, DLink DWL-G630 Version: C2 Revision 3.01
[08:56] <soundray> ompaul, ke_: The error is about the device though, and not the filesystem...
[08:56] <robotgeek> ushooz: atheros
[08:56] <joosep> is gnome-look.org down?
[08:56] <ushooz> robotgeek, yep
[08:56] <ke_> Crap
[08:56] <robotgeek> ushooz: my friend got unlucky, he got a broadcom coaster
[08:57] <ke_> Gotta' backup everything and format it
[08:57] <ushooz> robotgeek, can not return it?
[08:57] <weob> how do i get firefox to use konqueror instead of nautilus?
[08:57] <soundray> ke_, how is hdb wired up?
[08:57] <ke_> Using kubuntu now - but I got it mounted while I was using gnome
[08:57] <robotgeek> ushooz: we returned it :)
[08:57] <ke_> Normal I guess
[08:57] <ke_> Hmm
[08:57] <ke_> Brb
[08:58] <ompaul> ke_, that does not make sense
[08:58] <ompaul> ahh
[08:58] <soundray> ke_, same cable as hda? Both disks jumpered as master/slave correctly?
[08:58] <b1n0ry> ok, i think my system's dying and i just installed it :(
[08:58] <ompaul> soundray, ke_ gone
[08:59] <sewoyl> :( still no wifi
[08:59] <ompaul> soundray,  bets for cable select?
[08:59] <weob> lol why would you want to dev wine on windows?
[08:59] <soundray> ompaul, :)
[08:59] <weob> maybe for older windows maybe.. but seems silly
[08:59] <sewoyl> does the fact that my wifi card is eth1 instead of wlan0 meanyhting
[08:59] <sewoyl> mean anything*
[08:59] <weob> yes
[08:59] <weob> it should see it as wlan0
[09:00] <soundray> ompaul, remember keiron?
[09:00] <sewoyl> but gnome says "wireless network adapter" in the config window
[09:00] <ushooz> sewoyl, nope. My Toshiba has its wireless as eth1 and wired as eth0
[09:00] <robotgeek> sewoyl: not necessary, it doesn't matter
[09:00] <b1n0ry> i am using the synaptic package manager to install some stuff. apache2 installed great. i went to install mysql and it asked me to configure postfix. i made a mistake, hit the 'back' button, the configuration window hung up so i had to force quit.
[09:00] <b1n0ry> now, the little "preparing packages" bar has been moving back and forth for about 30 minutes
[09:00] <sewoyl> why am not able to ping my routers ?
[09:00] <sewoyl> is that related to my wifi problemes?
[09:00] <ompaul> soundray, remind me
[09:01] <b1n0ry> on "installing software" i'm afraid to bomb it out because i don't want to really screw something up
[09:01] <cycom> ushooz: what kind of toshiba?
[09:01] <sewoyl> ushooz, my acer too
[09:01] <robotgeek> b1n0ry: bomb it , you could go over it again
[09:01] <soundray> ompaul, guy swearing at Linux when he had his HD hooked up with a CD-ROM ribbon.
[09:01] <ushooz> cycom, 1415-S173. Old beast :)
[09:01] <sewoyl> soundray, :)
[09:01] <ompaul> that was one of the lesser known better ones
[09:02] <b1n0ry> robotgeek,  is there something similar to the windows task manager that lets you force down hung apps?
[09:02] <ushooz> sewoyl, try iwconfig and make sure those setting are correct
[09:02] <cycom> ushooz: I had a problem with my wireless being eth0 and my wired being eth2, but then if there was some random problem with the acpi and I had to reboot, it would be eth0 wired and wireless eth1 till I rebooted again.  I updated a lot of stuff and now it's eth1 for wireless and eth0 for wired
[09:02] <robotgeek> b1n0ry: there's a panel applet called force quit
[09:02] <sunshine82> how do i set up xawtv
[09:02] <cycom> ushooz: I have a toshiba M45-265
[09:02] <robotgeek> b1n0ry: plus, you can always ps -ef | grep <appname> , get the pid and kill it
[09:03] <sewoyl> ushooz, it seems correct
[09:03] <cycom> ushooz: did you have to do any funky stuff with acpi on the old beast?
[09:03] <sunshine82> when i type xawtv -noxv i get v4l2: open /dev/video0: No such device
[09:03] <sunshine82>  how do i fix this
[09:03] <soundray> sunshine82, insert a PCI TV card? :)
[09:03] <zzyber> i have installed rufus bittorrent downloader but i cant get it to automaticlu load a torrent when i click the tottent link on a webpage then choose open with /user/bin/rufus? When i do that rufus starts empty. What can i do to fix this?
[09:03] <tarheelcoxn> b1n0ry: killall -9 <appname>
[09:03] <ushooz> cycom, acpi does not really work with it :(
[09:03] <b1n0ry> robotgeek, thanks
[09:04] <ushooz> cycom, only in limited fashion
[09:04] <tarheelcoxn> b1n0ry: saves a step from what robotgeek said
[09:04] <sewoyl> ushooz, hmm do I have to specify the wifi access point as "default gateway" or the wired router 'beneath' it ?
[09:04] <sunshine82> soundray how do i check if there is one install
[09:04] <clb_> heeelp! I rebuilt 2.6.14.2 kernel and I now get these errors: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4497
[09:04] <ushooz> sewoyl, depends on how you have things set up.
[09:05] <john-> hi newbish perosn here, about to attempt to install ubuntu, how straight forward is it?
[09:05] <john-> only experience i have is installing fedora
[09:05] <sewoyl> my setup is     WAN==ROUTER==WIFI ACCESS POINT==LAPTOP
[09:05] <john-> that was pretty easy
[09:05] <cycom> ushooz: I had a problem with my wireless dying randomly.  I threw acpi=noirq pci=usepirqmask irqpoll on the kernel options and it works now
[09:05] <fredforfaen> anybody here got cedega working on breezy?
[09:05] <tarheelcoxn> john-: it's pretty darn easy
[09:05] <ushooz> sewoyl, more than likely the router but it all depends if your access point is acting as a router itself as well
[09:05] <sunshine82> soundray i got this computer of a friend so that wasnt a good answer to give to me for one i dont know where to look to find a pci tv and i dont know what a pci card is
[09:05] <tarheelcoxn> john-: have you tried the liveCD?
[09:05] <john-> yup
[09:05] <john-> i liked it
[09:06] <ushooz> cycom, sheesh. I got lucky then :) I do not have to do any switches :)
[09:06] <john-> i'm gonna dual boot, already got a partition set aside
[09:06] <sewoyl> john-, partition editing is just different than fc4 but if you have the smallest idea of what oure doing it'll be okay
[09:06] <pppoe_dude> hi all, is there a way to map special keys to special characters? like say on a laptop, Fn + q to map to a sigma character
[09:06] <soundray> sunshine82, you clearly expect that computer to be receiving a video signal of some sort.
[09:06] <sewoyl> ushooz, no its actually a router with any routing/dhcp disabled
[09:06] <john-> i'm not totally comfortable with partitioning, but i know about it
[09:06] <cycom> ushooz: the fun part was that the wireless would also die if I plugged in my USB mouse or GPS.  Wardriving was tough. :)
[09:06] <sewoyl> ushooz, so basicallywifi router turned access point
[09:06] <soundray> sunshine82, you generally need specialized hardware for that kind of thing.
[09:06] <cycom> ushooz: but now it's all good
[09:06] <tarheelcoxn> john-: is this a simple desktop system for yourself?
[09:06] <sewoyl> ushooz, works fine in windows
[09:06] <john-> yes
[09:07] <pppoe_dude> or even shift-something
[09:07] <tarheelcoxn> john-: you're not trying to dual-boot, are you?
[09:07] <ushooz> b1n0ry, under application/system/tools is System Monitor... if you like task manager style killing of task that is it. Or if you want to me command line geek get to know ps -aux and kill and or top :)
[09:07] <john-> ...yes i am
[09:07] <john-> i need windows for games :p
[09:07] <tarheelcoxn> john-: ahh... then read the instructions in the wiki
[09:07] <sewoyl> john-, just remember 'happy face' = partition is not going to be formatted, 'skull' = partition will be formatted
[09:07] <jgomo3> Greetings
[09:07] <jgomo3> I need a little help
[09:07] <ushooz> sewoyl, I would do ipconfig /all in windows and make sure your linux setting match
[09:07] <jgomo3> It's a laptop wich doesn't setup correctly the eth0 interface. Only assignateit an int6 addres but not the inet addres.  This is shown by ip addr show eth0:
[09:07] <AzO> what'is the chan fr ???
[09:07] <jgomo3> 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000
[09:07] <jgomo3>     link/ether 00:00:86:56:17:bc brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[09:07] <cycom> sewoyl: HAHAHA! I had forgotten that!
[09:08] <sewoyl> ushooz, thats a good idea thanks I'll try that!
[09:08] <jgomo3>     inet6 fe80::200:86ff:fe56:17bc/64 scope link
[09:08] <jgomo3>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
[09:08] <sewoyl> cycom, :)
[09:08] <robotgeek> jgomo3: don't paste in here
[09:08] <cycom> jgomo3: is this for wireless?
[09:08] <jgomo3> the /etc/network/interface is pasted in http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4495
[09:08] <pppoe_dude> or is there a way to setup additional key binding?
[09:08] <AzO> what'is the chan fr ???
[09:08] <sunshine82> soundray but where do i look in device manager where....
[09:08] <tarheelcoxn> jgomo3: paste in #flood or somewhere else
[09:08] <soundray> sunshine82, normally that would be an expansion card that fits into a slot on the mainboard.
[09:08] <jgomo3> robotgeek: sorry
[09:08] <sunshine82> soundray i dont know
[09:08] <sewoyl> cycom, it's not stated anywhere on the screen ... but yeah pretty easy to figure out
[09:08] <AdrienDu54> hello
[09:08] <jgomo3> cycom: No,
[09:08] <sewoyl> AzMoo, french?
[09:09] <AdrienDu54> dites moi
[09:09] <_Dez> hey guys
[09:09] <sunshine82> soundray that sound like inside the cpu i dont go in there is there no way of checkin in the device manger without goin in there
[09:09] <tarheelcoxn> !fr
[09:09] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[09:09] <_Dez> anyone here know where i can pickup a ubuntu H2 usb hd?
[09:09] <cycom> jgomo3: you sure the cable's good?
[09:09] <soundray> sunshine82, look at the back of it. Is there a socket for an antenna?
[09:09] <AdrienDu54> c'est quoi c'est adresse svp ? elle correspond a koi sur un reseau ? 192.168.0.222
[09:10] <tarheelcoxn> ubotu: tell sewoyl about fr
[09:10] <nalioth> _Dez: follow the link from tomshardware
[09:10] <sewoyl> AdrienDu54, en franais c sur #ubuntu-fr
[09:10] <tarheelcoxn> err
[09:10] <tarheelcoxn> sorry sewoyl
[09:10] <sewoyl> no problem :)
[09:10] <jgomo3> cycom: Yes, the lights green. On win is working correctly, but the idea is to overwrite win with the ubuntu
[09:10] <tarheelcoxn> right idea... wrong nick
[09:10] <Khaaaaan> Damn you apple! Why won't you make a Linux client of your iPod software!
[09:11] <cycom> jgomo3: are you on that machine right now?
[09:11] <AdrienDu54> oui sewoyl je suis sur ubuntu
[09:11] <jgomo3> No
[09:11] <ushooz> Khaaaaan, what do you need?
[09:11] <cycom> Khaaaaan: because apple sucks?
[09:11] <AdrienDu54> j'ai confitgur un serveur web
[09:11] <sewoyl> it should probably say 'va sur #ubuntu-fr' (not va a ...)
[09:11] <sewoyl> but whatever :D
[09:11] <AdrienDu54> c'est l'adresse avec laquelle j'accede  mon site
[09:11] <cycom> jgomo3: ok, try dhclient eth0 and see if it snags and address
[09:11] <adriyel> oh good lord
[09:11] <jgomo3> cycom: but is at my right side
[09:11] <AdrienDu54> si toi tu tapes cette adresse dans ton exploreur internet est ce que tu tombes sur mon site?
[09:12] <sewoyl> AdrienDu54, il faut aller sur le canal #ubuntu-fr
[09:12] <adriyel> I hate it when its primetime in Europe, I don't understand half the convo's.
[09:12] <cycom> jgomo3: I figured :)
[09:12] <AdrienDu54> ah pardon
[09:12] <AdrienDu54> loll j'avais pas capt
[09:12] <ushooz> Khaaaaan, gtkpod, Banshee, SharpMusic
[09:12] <AdrienDu54> c en anglais
[09:12] <ubuntu_> 'lo everyone - could use a bit of help installing/configuring if anyone's available?
[09:12] <sunshine82> soundray i think so is it a green hole
[09:12] <sewoyl> yes it's in english here :D
[09:12] <adriyel> parle in anglais PLEASE
[09:12] <AdrienDu54> sorry bye be
[09:12] <Khaaaaan> ushooz: Yea i need a replacement for itunes... well actually ephpod on windows
[09:12] <ushooz> Khaaaaan, gtkpod and Banshee allow you to transfer songs to the ipod  SharpMusic allows you to buy songs
[09:12] <traveller> i have problems starting mod_rewrite, the module is there, i've linked the module in mods-enabled, but it seems nothing's changed
[09:12] <Khaaaaan> ushooz: How about formatting and firmware updates?
[09:12] <sunshine82> soundray it has an antenna lookin symbol nexy to it
[09:13] <soundray> sunshine82, it should be more like a barrel that protrudes about half an inch.
[09:13] <sewoyl> i like Banshee, looks like a new rhythmbox to me
[09:13] <ushooz> Khaaaaan, no firmware updates.
[09:13] <_Dez> nalioth i cant seem to find a link to buy the usb drive
[09:13] <cycom> adriyel: jgomo3 did it get an IP?
[09:13] <ushooz> Khaaaaan, should be able to format. I have never had to. Plus I have several Macs so use iTunes :)
[09:13] <cycom> er.. not adriyel
[09:14] <cycom> adriyel: how many languages do you speak/understand
[09:14] <Khaaaaan> hmmm
[09:14] <Khaaaaan> Is banshee free?
[09:14] <ushooz> yep
[09:14] <Khaaaaan> It looks pretty money..
[09:14] <Pablo> o.O
[09:14] <ubuntu_> ok, so I start with can anyone see this?
[09:14] <adriyel> cycom, I am a student an ancient written languages, but I do speak/understand a number of modern languages, not in any fluent manner however
[09:14] <ushooz> has lots of depends
[09:14] <nalioth> _Dez: it's on the last page of the writeup at the bottom of the article (not the bottom of the page)
[09:15] <sunshine82> soundray is a barrell like a  parrell point
[09:15] <sewoyl> Khaaaaan, free as in free speech my friend!
[09:15] <adriyel> cycom, I read/write latin, hebrew, greek, aramaic, arabic, blah blah.
[09:15] <chrisbudden14> With libdvdcss2 installed, I cannot play unencrypted dvd's and can play commercial encrypted dvd's.  When I remove libdvd2css I can play unencrypted.
[09:15] <adriyel> cycom, I also learned Tolkien's languages as a hobby
[09:15] <tarheelcoxn> ubuntu_: the installer is pretty straight-forward
[09:15] <sewoyl> adriyel, in prato condam rana conpexit bovem (or something like that)
[09:15] <anathema_> okay im back wiht the problem here
[09:15] <tarheelcoxn> ubuntu_: just jump in with both feet
[09:15] <Khaaaaan> hmmm...
[09:15] <anathema_> i get this error when trying to open .wmv files.. http://pastebin.com/428177
[09:15] <soundray> sunshine82, don't know what you mean.
[09:15] <adriyel> sewoyl, WHAT did you just try to say in latin? lol.
[09:15] <tarheelcoxn> ubuntu_: after you've made a backup, of course
[09:15] <anathema_> can i supress this error somehow?
[09:15] <anathema_> anyone?
[09:15] <adriyel> I recognize the forms, but not the vocab.
[09:16] <cycom> adriyel: if you know latin, why do you have so much trouble with french then? :)
[09:16] <ubuntu_> tried installer - failed 3x during install, finally got it installed, shell never came up. I know next to nada about linux. trying to install version 5.04
[09:16] <sewoyl> adriyel, hmm something like in the sunny field the frog stared at the beef
[09:16] <cycom> adriyel: semper ubi sub ubi :)
[09:16] <ubuntu_> using live version for now
[09:16] <sewoyl> adriyel, from that Lafontaine story (tale?)
[09:16] <tarheelcoxn> cycom: thaaaaat's aawwwwwwwful
[09:16] <adriyel> always where (below?) where
[09:16] <sewoyl> cycom, hmm latin is not french
[09:16] <adriyel> understanding a language and memorizing its dictionary is another story
[09:16] <adriyel> I learn many languages, I don't memorize two of them :P
[09:17] <tarheelcoxn> adriyel: "Always wear underwear" (horribly massacred)
[09:17] <cycom> sewoyl: French: romance language. based on latin.
[09:17] <sewoyl> cycom, thank you for telling me, my mother tongue is french
[09:17] <thrush> damn normans
[09:17] <nvez> ubuntu_, corrupt CD?
[09:17] <chrisbudden14> anyone got an idea?
[09:17] <cycom> tarheelcoxn: actually, it's always where under where literally
[09:17] <nvez> Plus 5.10 is out.
[09:17] <b1n0ry> ushooz,  i am pretty good with the command line. i've been working with linux for many years, but not much with x. i didn't know if there was something special that needed to be done.
[09:17] <sewoyl> cycom, and im not sure its romance
[09:17] <adriyel> tarheelcoxn, wow.
[09:17] <adriyel> my latin teacher just croaked.
[09:18] <_Dez> thanks nalioth
[09:18] <ubuntu_> doubt it's corrupt cd - got 5 diff ones mailed to me and I've tried all 5.  can update to 5.10 after the install - that part's working - prob is I can't get gnome and stuff to fully install.
[09:18] <tarheelcoxn> adriyel: did she not have a sense of humor?
[09:18] <adriyel> the written form of the languages is in particular my specialty...
[09:18] <adriyel> tarheelcoxn, actually she was the funniest teacher I've ever had
[09:18] <cycom> adriyel: I'm sure my silly 'semper ubi sub ubi' thing made your teacher turn over in her grave
[09:18] <adriyel> she just hated dirty latin
[09:18] <sewoyl> cycom, its roman language
[09:19] <adriyel> Romance Languages, bleh, they get boring
[09:19] <adriyel> all the bloody same except for English, which has german constructs
[09:19] <chrisbudden14> dvd playback anyone?
[09:19] <cycom> chrisbudden14: what?
[09:19] <jgomo3> cycom: didn't work
[09:19] <adriyel> ubotu tell chrisbudden14 about restricted formats
[09:19] <bonez> Can someone help me installing winex EXACTLY how to? I can't get it to work =(
[09:19] <tarheelcoxn> ubuntu_: what do you mean by "can't get gnome and stuff to fully install?" What's giving your errors? synaptic?
[09:19] <cycom> jgomo3: hrm...
[09:19] <|sam|> hi, in xfce4 you can set a frame on the desktop, so you can choose the area windows can fill, i wanna do the same with gnome, anybody know how?
[09:20] <chrisbudden14> i cant play UNencrypted dvd's with libdvdcss2 installed.
[09:20] <jgomo3> cycom: in the beginig lines of the dhclient were: sit0:   unknown hardware address type 776
[09:20] <sewoyl> |sam|, probably in gconf if anywhere
[09:20] <sled> hi
[09:20] <ubuntu_> can't bring up synaptic even.  I get command prompt and nothing else. remember I know next to nada about linux - ls is one of the few commands I'm good with, tried using man on some of the stuff I found but nothing led to the shell. looks like cshell prompt btw (I had a sco class years ago)
[09:20] <sewoyl> |sam|, oops doesnt seem to be the name
[09:21] <sewoyl> |sam|, configuration editor
[09:21] <cycom> jgomo3: this sounds like what was going on with my wireless (I know you're using wired) when the interface was getting all screwy due to issues with acpi and irqs and such
[09:21] <nvez> ubuntu_, try "apt-get install gnome" from shell?
[09:21] <tarheelcoxn> ubuntu_: it's a bash prompt
[09:21] <tarheelcoxn> you likely have a problem with Xorg
[09:21] <sunshine82> soundray u said the antenna connnection is like a barrell i was askin is a barrelll
[09:21] <sunshine82> soundray is a barrell like a  parrell pont
[09:21] <nvez> hmm
[09:21] <soundray> sunshine82, I don't know what a "parrell pont" is.
[09:21] <ubuntu_> thanks tarheel - and nvez..  tried apt-get install gnome, got fail error with some side instructions to follow (apt-get -f?) tried those, tried apt-get install gnome again, nada.
[09:21] <nvez> ubuntu_, why don't you try a network install?
[09:22] <ubuntu_> that's a possibility nvez - issue at hand is right now I've got no other way of getting out than here, and hdd is partitioned for winblows.
[09:22] <Khaaaaan> Is there a way to minimize X-chat to the system tray?
[09:22] <|sam|> sewoyl, i looked there :o( couldnt see anything like it
[09:22] <soundray> sunshine82, TV cards typically have a coaxial antenna connector.
[09:22] <nvez> ubuntu_, your best bet would be a network install.
[09:22] <|sam|> i will keep on googling, just thought i would check just incase ;oP
[09:22] <ubuntu_> wanna start me on the walkthru for network install? any particular url I need to hit to get it?
[09:22] <soundray> sunshine82, that connector protrudes from the backplate circa .5 in.
[09:23] <bonez> Can someone help me installing winex EXACTLY how to? I can't get it to work
[09:23] <thrush> ubuntu_: unable to sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[09:23] <nvez> Do you have a CD burner?
[09:23] <ubuntu_> and will it down me on live version? yah, got cd burner.
[09:23] <moo> i cannot find java-package from any repositories for breezy. do you have idea where I could get it?
[09:23] <soundray> sunshine82, it is round and fairly large, compared to eg. the mouse socket.
[09:23] <moo> i need to install jre 1.5
[09:23] <ubuntu_> did sudo apt-get thrush. even did sudo -s to start at root. no workee.
[09:23] <|sam|> moo, download it from suns website
[09:24] <moo> sam: i have jdk bin, but i need make-dpkg command to make .deb from it
[09:24] <ubuntu_> man you guys are helpful. this beats the hell out of my old dalnet days.  thanks for all this so far :)
[09:24] <moo> make-jpkg is in java-package
[09:24] <jgomo3> cycom: and how did you resolved that? (if that's the case)
[09:24] <nvez> ubuntu_..
[09:25] <nvez> What worked for me is a mini ISO image
[09:25] <cycom> jgomo3: yeah, I passed acpi=noirq pci=usepirqmask irqpoll as kernel options
[09:25] <sewoyl> |sam|, i think I managed to do that someday to use a macOSX like dock
[09:25] <nvez> Which works 100% like a CD installer, gui friendly, etc.
[09:25] <cycom> jgomo3: dunno if that'll help though
[09:25] <nvez> I got it from
[09:25] <tarheelcoxn> ubuntu_: linux for human beings, after all :)
[09:25] <|sam|> sewoyl, yeah i want it for the same reason :)
[09:26] <nvez> ubuntu_, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[09:26] <|sam|> moo, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70428 shows how to install jre1.5 from scratch
[09:26] <sewoyl> |sam|, but I finally found out that gnome's two bars layout is the most intuitive :)
[09:26] <msieradzki> is there such hint like (DONT USER DRAPER yet) ? (like with breezy)
[09:26] <nvez> That's the miniboot disk, download, burn, and then insert in CD, boot it, and follow instructions.  (not gentoo like installer. :)
[09:26] <ubuntu_> q on network install - is possible to do from the live version without crashing it?
[09:26] <josh__> does anyone know how to configure/install a wireless card
[09:27] <nvez> josh__:  Read about NDISWRAPPER on Wikipedia.
[09:27] <josh__> ok
[09:27] <clb_> anyone know about alsa? I get this at boot:  * /etc/init.d/alsa-utils: Warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message 'alsactl: set_control:894: warning: name mismatch (External Amplifier/Headphone Jack Sense) for control #41
[09:28] <clb_> and then I'm dropped into shell as root... not running gdm
[09:28] <john-> right, here i go
[09:28] <weob> anyone use dvdshrink in wine?
[09:28] <|sam|> sewoyl, yeah i will prolly end up using them again, but it would be nice to run like this for a little while
[09:28] <nvez> weob, I think a dvdshrink for ubuntu exists.
[09:28] <r0d> dapper is great..
[09:28] <nvez> With no need of wine.
[09:28] <weob> really
[09:28] <weob> that would be sweet
[09:28] <|sam|> r0d, what are the main differences atm between dapper and breezy?
[09:28] <tarheelcoxn> ubuntu_: you want to burn a minimal netinst CD and boot from that
[09:29] <r0d> nvez, what? never heard of that
[09:29] <nvez> Hmm.. last time on SuSE I saw that.
[09:29] <nvez> Doesn't look to be there on Ubuntu.
[09:29] <jgomo3> cycom: Hay man, i'll try that. Thanx a lot man
[09:29] <|sam|> r0d, is hotplugging usb sticks working?
[09:29] <r0d> i use to use dvdshrink w/ wine
[09:29] <ubuntu_> kk. can do - prob is I'm on live right now, and the live cd's in my burner :P
[09:29] <weob> i will do that
[09:29] <weob> cuz i love that windoz program
[09:30] <nvez> ubuntu_,  I don't think it'll crash or anything..
[09:30] <nvez> Don't quote me on that.
[09:30] <r0d> ok |sam| no 100 on that. when i went to those repositories, i had million upgrades. so i came to the conclusion its more aggressive w/ upgrading
[09:30] <ubuntu_> gonna cut outta here - thanks for the help so far. I'll do the burn and attempt install. If fails, I'll restart live and holler here :)
[09:30] <ubuntu_> be well y'all!
[09:30] <nvez> Okay, see you in a bit, ubuntu_
[09:30] <cycom> jgomo3: good luck
[09:31] <r0d> |sam|, i've seen it working, yes
[09:31] <johnhand> #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
[09:31] <r0d> |sam|, you have to check out the slashdot article on H2
[09:31] <johnhand> Uhm, HI
[09:31] <johnhand> I am in trouble
[09:31] <r0d> AWESOME
[09:31] <|sam|> r0d, i will check it out
[09:32] <johnhand> I used a sources.list to get mp3, and it crapped everything up
[09:32] <r0d> johnhand, spit the question out bro
[09:32] <johnhand> Anyone know where I can get an original?
[09:32] <weob> acidrip is the name of the linux native dvdshrinklike prog
[09:32] <nvez> johnhand, What version are you running
[09:32] <weob> im trying it out now
[09:32] <bonez_> Can someone help me install winex and cedega? I got problems and I dunno how to solve it...
[09:32] <nvez> I could private message you mine.
[09:32] <nvez> (Breezy Badger, 5.10)
[09:33] <johnhand> that would be great thanx
[09:33] <|sam|> bonez_, what problems?
[09:33] <nvez> Okay.
[09:33] <sunshine82> soundray i cant see anything as big as my mouse socket it not there does that mean i cant use gnomew meeting either im sure i was able to use my webcam when i was windows so my computer must have some vidoe capacity
[09:33] <bonez_> |sam| I followed instructions on linux-gamers, but when I ran ~/.cvscedega or cvscedega command it wouldn
[09:34] <weob> is it me or does wine take longer to compile than a kernel?
[09:34] <bonez_> |sam| I followed instructions on linux-gamers, but when I ran ~/.cvscedega or cvscedega command it wouldn't function
[09:34] <sunshine82> soundray what about fixin v4l
[09:34] <weob> is that cuz it tries to compile some of the windiz kernel parts ? and its all bloated and the bloat makes the boat not float?
[09:34] <weob> try sudo ./cvscedega
[09:34] <bonez_> I was logged as su
[09:35] <bonez_> And it said no such file or directory
[09:35] <|sam|> bonez_; cedega comes as a .deb file so you install it as sudo dpkg -i cedega5.deb
[09:35] <|sam|> bones_; ahh cvs cedega, sorry i aint tried that :o/
[09:35] <bonez_> |sam| I use cvs
[09:36] <CTPAYC> i am having problams with synaptic having dead servers does anyone know where i can get a new updated repository list? msg me please :)
[09:36] <weob> sudo apt-get update
[09:36] <CTPAYC> ...
[09:36] <CTPAYC> no
[09:36] <CTPAYC> dead servers
[09:37] <weob> kill them~
[09:37] <CTPAYC> the standard repository fails
[09:37] <FJ_Sanchez> Hi, is anybody using SCIM or UIM?
[09:37] <GigaClon> what does your sorces.list look like?
[09:37] <GigaClon> sources.list
[09:37] <FJ_Sanchez> I want to input japanese in GTK and QT aplications but I don't use gnome or KDE
[09:37] <CTPAYC> can i post it here?
[09:37] <bonez_> Can someone help me compiling winex and cedega? I dunno what to choose to install..
[09:37] <GigaClon> no
[09:37] <GigaClon> !pastbin
[09:37] <ubotu> GigaClon: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:37] <GigaClon> !pastebin
[09:37] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:37] <GigaClon> there
[09:37] <Paradoxx> !mdf
[09:37] <ubotu> Paradoxx: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:38] <bonez_> !help
[09:38] <bonez_> -.-
[09:38] <weob> lol giga
[09:38] <soundray> sunshine82, okay, if your video hardware is a web cam, then you don't need a TV card.
[09:38] <Paradoxx> anyone have any idea how i can convert a .mdf image to a .iso?
[09:38] <GigaClon> no
[09:38] <Ophiocus> interesting
[09:38] <ulaas> Paradoxx, rename the file..
[09:38] <Paradoxx> ulaas: thats all?
[09:38] <ulaas> Paradoxx, i am not joking...
[09:39] <bonez_> !cedega
[09:39] <ubotu> cedega is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page, or #cedega http://www.franskcorner.org/
[09:39] <Paradoxx> ......
[09:39] <soundray> sunshine82, xawtv is normally used to watch TV, but you're right, it works for web cams, too, if they are v4l compliant.
[09:39] <ulaas> Paradoxx, try and see for yourself
[09:39] <Digis> Paradoxx, if mdf is alchohol 120% format, if U will convert it to iso, it may not work correctly
[09:39] <bonez_> !winex
[09:39] <ubotu> bonez_: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:39] <weob> wine: error while loading shared libraries: libwine.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:39] <|sam|> CTPAYC; http://www.psychocats.net/linux/sources.php  has upto date list of repos
[09:39] <weob> i got this error at the end of the install progress
[09:39] <bonez_> Can someone help me compiling winex and cedega? I dunno what to choose to install..
[09:39] <sunshine82> soundray when i type xawtv -noxv i get v4l2: open /dev/video0: No such device
[09:39] <CTPAYC> ?
[09:39] <soundray> sunshine82, what you need to do now is find out the make, model and chipset of the web cam and see whether there is a Linux driver for it.
[09:39] <CTPAYC> weird function
[09:40] <bonez_> !cedega
[09:40] <ubotu> [cedega]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page, or #cedega http://www.franskcorner.org/
[09:40] <weob> !wine ?
[09:40] <Paradoxx> it didn't work...
[09:40] <bonez_> !wine
[09:40] <Paradoxx> Digis: yea i kno its the alchohol format
[09:41] <soundray> sunshine82, I take it your web cam is plugged into a USB socket.
[09:41] <sunshine82> soundray ive done all that already the driver is broken ive emailed the provider of the driver  they havent respond yet is there no way of settin up the /dev/video without the driveer set up
[09:41] <sunshine82> soundray yea
[09:41] <Paradoxx> ulaas: your suggestion did not work..
[09:41] <Digis> Paradoxx, ant if U will convert it to iso, It may not work.
[09:41] <CTPAYC> so what is my problam with the list
[09:42] <Paradoxx> Digis: grr, i though i was finished with windows...
[09:42] <soundray> sunshine82, the driver is what interfaces with the camera hardware and provides the virtual file /dev/video0 .
[09:42] <GigaClon> link?
[09:42] <sunshine82> soundray ahhh
[09:42] <Obi-1> i have some problems with the root user
[09:42] <Paradoxx> now i have to go back to alchohol just to convert these back
[09:42] <Paradoxx> >.<
[09:42] <Ophiocus> ok so am not getting sound from a video cd but all other sound applications work fine
[09:42] <Ophiocus> any ideas?
[09:42] <Digis> Paradoxx, it may work, if that cd/dvd  image, has no super/duper/mega protections, like a lot of new games has
[09:42] <CTPAYC> hmmmm
[09:42] <CTPAYC> oh i got it thx
[09:42] <CTPAYC> lol
[09:42] <sunshine82> soundray well there nothin we can do then because we already went through the driver and found out it broken
[09:42] <GigaClon> make your application is using esd?
[09:42] <Paradoxx> its not anything like that
[09:42] <CTPAYC> someone msged me lol
[09:43] <Obi-1> how can i run x applications as root
[09:43] <soundray> sunshine82, there you go.
[09:43] <traveller> does anyone know how i can enable mod_rewrite in apache2?
[09:43] <GigaClon> use sudo
[09:43] <Obi-1> i tryed that but it gives me an error
[09:43] <sewoyl> Obi-1, from terminal sudi gedit   >will run gedit as root
[09:43] <sunshine82> soundray we try everything to get it to work but im still getiin an error when i try and make the driver
[09:43] <sewoyl> sudo of course
[09:43] <El_Che> Obi-1: from a console within your X: sudo applicationprogram
[09:44] <GigaClon> sudoku
[09:44] <soundray> sunshine82, what's the name of the driver?
[09:44] <Digis> Paradoxx, then try converting mdf->iso with alcohol, U know alcohol is a commercial tool, and mdf is specific alcohol format
[09:45] <Obi-1> there's no sudi
[09:45] <Digis> sorsis, I dont whink, that U will find any tools related to mdf
[09:45] <Paradoxx> i didn't kno mdf was a alchohol specific format
[09:45] <sunshine82> soundray ahh nw802-2.4
[09:45] <Paradoxx> sigh
[09:45] <Digis> :)
[09:45] <Paradoxx> kk m8, ty much
[09:46] <ulaas> Paradoxx, sorry dude. it did work for me before..
[09:46] <Paradoxx> damn propiotory formats and their restrictions
[09:46] <Paradoxx> thats y i moved to open source you kno
[09:46] <Paradoxx> >.<
[09:47] <Digis> :), well migrating is painfull and tricky thing
[09:47] <Digis> :)
[09:47] <bulio> I have a wireless router
[09:47] <bulio> with a wireless usb device
[09:47] <bulio> how would I allow ubuntu to connect to it?
[09:48] <soundray> sunshine82, it looks like this driver only works with 2.4 kernels.
[09:48] <bulio> just plug it in and boot up ubuntu live?
[09:48] <soundray> Ubuntu comes with 2.6 by default.
[09:48] <Knowerrors> anybody else here having problems accessing usb cameras in breezy?
[09:48] <jgomo3> cycom: is "live acpi=noirq pci=usepirqmask irqpoll"
[09:48] <Trackilizer> bulio, yes, should do the trick.
[09:48] <Trackilizer> Try it.
[09:49] <sunshine82> soundray why do u say that
[09:49] <soundray> sunshine82, your best bet is to buy a web cam from a retailer who will exchange it for you if you can't get it to work.
[09:49] <cycom> jgomo3: afaik.  I did that in my /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:49] <Digis> bulio, it depends, what device U have, search some info, maybe drivers in google
[09:49] <server_newbie> can anyone help me with ssh & keychain? I want to get rid of the passphrase requirment every time I login...
[09:50] <soundray> sunshine82, nw802-2.4-0.0.99 is the version on the Sourceforge page. 0.0.99 is the driver version, and 2.4 is the kernel version that it has been developed for.
[09:50] <bulio_Lap> so, do I just boot up ubuntu live, and it should detect my USB wireless thing?
[09:50] <server_newbie> I have keychain loaded and follow several of the how to's I have found and still pass phrase
[09:51] <bulio_Lap> huh?
[09:51] <Obi-1> nothing works.. it's not allowing me to iniciate gedit as root
[09:52] <soundray> sunshin82, all according to my personal interpretation.
[09:52] <thrice`> hrm...it doesn't like this OOo line in my sources.list
[09:52] <thrice`> deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2/
[09:52] <dell500> how do you view man pages outside of console?
[09:52] <soundray> sunshine82, umm, did you get your driver sources from CVS?
[09:52] <thrice`> is that wrong ?
[09:53] <DShepherd> dell500: yelp
[09:54] <thrice`> hrm...why is xchat 2.4.4-0 in backports?
[09:54] <Obi-1> not working
[09:54] <thrice`> shouldn't that be 2.6.0 by now ?
[09:54] <bonez> Could someone help me? "The source directory is not writable. You probably extracted the sources as root.
[09:54] <bonez> " You are running wineinstall as root, this is not advisable. Please rerun as a user.
[09:54] <bonez> " someone can help me to fix this? =(
[09:55] <johnhand> Hey. How do I get permission to edit my sources.list? I can only open it as read only...
[09:55] <Rawplayer> 00      *     *       *           *            /home/kevin/bin/updatespam.sh >/dev/null 2>&1 is this every hour?
[09:55] <thrice`> johnhand, sudo
[09:55] <bonez> johnhand; sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:55] <johnhand> and then a program opens or?
[09:56] <bonez> yes
[09:56] <DShepherd> dell500: type yelp at the terminals. There is a link to the man pages...Crtl+f you can search for the command you want
[09:56] <thrice`> Seveas, around ?
[09:56] <fanopnaic> Rawplayer: yes.
[09:56] <DShepherd> terminal*
[09:56] <bonez> Could someone help me? "The source directory is not writable. You probably extracted the sources as root.
[09:56] <bonez>  " You are running wineinstall as root, this is not advisable. Please rerun as a user.
[09:56] <bonez>  " someone can help me to fix this?
[09:56] <johnhand> Thanks a load! Gotta write that command down
[09:56] <johnhand> Cheers!
[09:57] <johnhand> Well, I should be going. Late in DK, and I gotta get up at 0600..
[09:57] <johnhand> c ya
[09:57] <johnhand> !
[09:57] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, johnhand
[09:57] <johnhand> :D
[09:57] <thrice`> Hey Seveas mind helping me a sec>?
[09:57] <Omega11> hi
[09:57] <Seveas> thrice`, yes, i'm very busy
[09:57] <Omega11> ubuntu linux sucks
[09:57] <Omega11> i prefer mandrake
[09:57] <thrice`> Seveas, ok; nevermind :)
[09:58] <thrice`> i thought you were in charge of the final OOo2 packs, but I read the wrong line
[09:58] <weob> does winetools work with the current wine beta or no?
[09:58] <Obi-1> hehehe.. if it sucks so much why you use it?
[09:58] <weob> ubuntu is far better than mandark
[09:58] <Obi-1> i think so to
[09:58] <Seveas> weob, this is not the place for distrowars
[09:59] <bonez1> yo
[09:59] <Obi-1> the frindliest linux in th world
[09:59] <weob> there is no war here
[09:59] <chope> hi, is there a way to limit the mouse position so it doesnt go to the other screen in xinerama?
[09:59] <weob> how do you get the build number on wine?
[10:01] <Obi-1> how can i disable the root no logging
[10:01] <Seveas> Obi-1, 'root no logging'?
[10:01] <Ophiocus> is there a way to check what codec is totem using for audio playback? i aint geting audio from a vcd
[10:01] <Obi-1> in the loggin screen.. root
[10:02] <LjL> how get i get a list like "dpkg -l", but with the complete package names shown and not truncated? actually, what i need in the end is a terse list of all installed packages
[10:02] <Coburn> how can i remove rox panel from my xfdesktop????
[10:02] <Seveas> LjL, dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstalled
[10:02] <Ophiocus> LjL, you can check that in sinaptic,. go to status and select installed
[10:02] <LjL> Ophiocus: no, i need to automate the process
[10:03] <LjL> seveas: thanks, seems like what i need
[10:03] <absurdhero> I have absolutely no questions at all. Ubuntu is working *perfectly* for me. And it only took a half hour to get everything set up just right. Thank You!
[10:03] <Yulia> Is there any p2p for music as ares inside distribution??
[10:04] <misfit_toy> absurdhero, very cool
[10:04] <LjL> Seveas: i think that it would be "deinstall" though, not "deinstalled", unless there's something i'm missing. in any case, what can my (installed) packages show other than "install"?
[10:04] <DShepherd> absurdhero: great!! your among few :)
[10:04] <Seveas> LjL, you're right :)
[10:05] <DShepherd> Yulia: I use limewire
[10:05] <Yulia> DShepherd, is good?
[10:05] <DShepherd> Yulia: well I like it.... you can try amule
[10:06] <LjL> Seveas: i'm trying to do some nice hacky stuff with auto-apt and other thingies... in the end, if all goes well, i want to have something that creates a .deb from a raw .tar.gz without any user intervention. hacky, of course, but i think it would be useful for many people :)
[10:06] <Seveas> LjL, you mean something like checkinstall :)
[10:07] <varsendagger> why can't i run gnome and kde simultaniously?
[10:07] <LjL> seveas: yes, but not quite! i mean to *use* checkinstall as well, but i want people to be able to "createdeb archive.tar.gz". auto-apt will install the required dependencies, and checkinstall will create the package, and the user will hopefully not have to worry about anything
[10:07] <DShepherd> varsendagger: is like wanting day and night at the same time
[10:07] <absurdhero> varsendagger, you can run gnome and kde simultaniously
[10:08] <absurdhero> I can't think of any good reason to, but if you want the bottom bar from kde to start while gnome, type ctrl-F2 and type "kicker"
[10:08] <DShepherd> absurdhero: you can?
[10:08] <varsendagger> absurdhero, how?  i actuall only wnat to run xfce and fluxbox simultaniously but it is the same concept
[10:08] <absurdhero> oh, that is a little different
[10:08] <Nebular> ok I've just spent the last few days setting up a samba print server with breeze, everything was working fine until I switched it over to a wireless card using ndiswrapper. Now opening a print dialog in winxp takes forever. any ideas as to why that would be?
[10:09] <absurdhero> I am not terribly familiar with xfce, but you may be able to start its nav bar thingy while in fluxbox
[10:10] <adriyel> absurdhero, indeed you can
[10:10] <DShepherd> absurdhero: oh..you mean run components of kde in gnome and vice-versa
[10:10] <scofield> hola
[10:10] <Ahmuck> how do i get to root from the live cd ?
[10:10] <absurdhero> what else is there besides components? I guess they do have their related window managers, but of course you can't run those at the same time
[10:10] <scofield> sudo -s
[10:10] <DShepherd> Ahmuck: sudo su
[10:11] <Ahmuck> thx
[10:11] <bob2> varsendagger: that makes no sense
[10:11] <bob2> varsendagger: xfce includes a window manager
[10:12] <DShepherd> bob2:  it's what he wants....maybe a thing in the future...but hey...let him hack at it
[10:12] <bob2> ...X only let you have one window manager per display
[10:13] <bob2> I don't really think it's negotiable
[10:13] <scofield> what , that make no sense ?
[10:13] <bob2> scofield: you can't have xfceand fluxbox's window manager runnin at the same time on the same display
[10:13] <scofield> ok thk
[10:13] <jals> hi, you might remember me from about half hour ago, trying to dual boot ubuntu?
[10:14] <Ahmuck> uh oh, i think i am going to crash.  tried to run apt update from live cd
[10:14] <jals> i was john- then
[10:14] <bob2> Ahmuck: that's fine, yo ucan install packages on the live cd (to ram)
[10:14] <scofield> exactly
[10:15] <bullraiser> hi people, i couldnt change my screen resolution to more than 1024x768, however my current dual Win XP is configured for 1280x1024. I tried dpkg reconfigure, changing xorg.conf and lot more options but none working. When i tried to view the Xorg.0.log, it shows me this message: (II) ATI(0): Not using mode "1280x1024@75" (exceeds panel dimensions). Could anyone pls help me out.
[10:15] <varsendagger> i wnat to be able to hit ctl+alt+F3 and (somehow start ) fluxbox and then hit ctl alt F4 and start xfce or gnome or kde or whatever else i wnat
[10:15] <DShepherd> !tell bullraiser about ati
[10:15] <omeg> Hmm... I don't have permission to visit my external hard drive sd1.
[10:15] <omeg> *sda1
[10:16] <DShepherd> varsendagger: oh... nice idea!
[10:16] <bob2> varsendagger: that's fine, and simple
[10:16] <bullraiser> thanks DShepherd, would try to look over the link and get back with the results shortly
[10:16] <bob2> !+fixres
[10:16] <ubotu> fixres is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:16] <DShepherd> bullraiser: np
[10:16] <bob2> bullraiser:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:16] <varsendagger> do yall know how to do it
[10:16] <bob2> varsendagger: you'd need to start another gdm instance on another VT
[10:16] <omeg> Why can't I view my external hard drive? I don't have permission for some reason even though this is a clean install.
[10:16] <Ahmuck> the live cd is very stable imho
[10:17] <jonaz> back again :)
[10:17] <omeg> I am obviously the owner as I'm the only user on the entire system.
[10:17] <jonaz> ubuntu + osx work fine now
[10:17] <omeg> "Root" seems to be the owner.
[10:17] <jonaz> now i got another problem: i want to make wine, but cli says: bash: make: command not found
[10:17] <fxn> I burned the disc image for ppc (5.10) and the powerbook does not boot with it, do I need to burn it in any special way to use it as live cd?
[10:17] <lesshaste> omeg: do you know what root is?
[10:17] <varsendagger> ok i don't have gdm installed, shold i just be able to run startFluxbox?
[10:17] <bob2> omeg: you mean "Why don't I have read/write permissions to a windows filesystem I mounted using /etc/fstab?"?
[10:17] <omeg> Yeah, the top level user, right?
[10:17] <varsendagger> ---with out caps
[10:17] <lesshaste> omeg: on linux just because you are the only user does not mean you own everything
[10:17] <bob2> omeg: or is it being automounted incorrectly?
[10:18] <silversurfer>  does sm1 know how to get multiple window managers launched at the same time
[10:18] <omeg> Hmm. It's because it's NTFS?
[10:18] <mojo> HEY ALL - Anyone know a site like broadbandreports for Dial-UP ISP reviews and listings?  I am trying to find a good, inexpensive ISP for my friend to get on-line ASAP.  Thanks!
[10:18] <Digis> jonaz, apt-get install build-essentials
[10:18] <lesshaste> omeg: I doubt it.. how are you attempting to mount it?
[10:18] <bob2> silversurfer: it's not possible
[10:18] <mojo> PS - I am in middle USA
[10:18] <varsendagger> mojo where?
[10:18] <varsendagger> ahh
[10:18] <silversurfer> for exemple en display 7 drA7 and on 8 gnome
[10:18] <bob2> varsendagger: login to a VT, 'startx', login to another, 'startx -- :1'
[10:18] <omeg> I clean installed the system and didn't change anything to the default settings; I assume that when starting Ubuntu, it would just allow me to normally use any device connected to my computer, like an USB2.0 external hard drive.
[10:18] <bob2> silversurfer: start another X server
[10:18] <mojo> Fairview, Tennessee (40min E.S.E. of Nashville)
[10:19] <bob2> silversurfer: e.g. 'startx -- :1' in a virtual terminal
[10:19] <omeg> I bet it's because it's NTFS. My other external hard drive is still on FAT32.
[10:19] <omeg> And I can access that one just fine.
[10:19] <lesshaste> omeg: how are you mounting the ones that work fine?
[10:19] <bob2> omeg: you didn't tell us how it was being mounted
[10:19] <mojo> varsendagger: My friend can't even get DSL or Cable in his country locale
[10:19] <silversurfer> thanks
[10:19] <bob2> omeg: also, if it's NTFS, you'll only be able to read it
[10:19] <lesshaste> omeg: can you tell me what is in /etc/fstab for the external drive?
[10:19] <DShepherd> bob2:  how do you specify which desktop manager or windows manager to use
[10:19] <jonaz> d'oh !!! thanks, Digis !
[10:20] <tuxi> hi
[10:20] <Zim_256> Hello!
[10:20] <omeg> I don't know how I'm "mounting" it, bob2. I just started Ubuntu like normal after a clean install. This is my first time using Breezy.
[10:20] <jonaz> how long will wine take to compile approx. ?:))
[10:20] <DShepherd> bob2: startx starts your default....I think. correct me if I am wrong
[10:20] <lesshaste> omeg: what do you do to access the drive?
[10:20] <Zim_256> somebody knows how to configure the video driver under debian?
[10:20] <tuxi> is it possible to mirror a website and all links going off from it (from one html file)
[10:20] <lesshaste> omeg: click on something?
[10:20] <omeg> Just trying to double-click on the icon in "computer".
[10:20] <cius> hello
[10:20] <bob2> DShepherd: startx /usr/bin/yourwindowmanagerhere
[10:20] <lesshaste> omeg: aha... can you paste /etc/fstab to #flood?
[10:20] <bob2> omeg: so it's being automounted as I suggested?
[10:21] <omeg> Er... how do I get /etc/fstab?
[10:21] <bob2> lesshaste: there won't be a fstab entry if it's a usb device
[10:21] <Zim_256> ?
[10:21] <omeg> Is that a terminal command?
[10:21] <lesshaste> bob2: true...
[10:21] <bob2> omeg: no, it's a filename
[10:21] <DShepherd> bob2: ahh makes sense thanks
[10:21] <omeg> Ah, lemme find that out
[10:21] <lesshaste> omeg: listen to bob2 ... he is more on the case :)
[10:21] <omeg> Yeah... :P
[10:21] <varsendagger> ok i got a fatal server error the server is allready running on display 0
[10:21] <bob2> omeg: can you show us the output of 'mount' in #flood?
[10:21] <bob2> (that is a command)
[10:21] <omeg> I'm not sure if it's being automounted.
[10:21] <omeg> Okay
[10:21] <bob2> varsendagger: yes, you need to actually do what I said
[10:21] <bob2> varsendagger: running some other simialr command line will not work
[10:22] <bob2> tuxi: wget --mirror would be a good start
[10:22] <hav0k> hey, whats a good program for downloading podcasts for linux?
[10:22] <cius> Would anyone know how to changed your xserver layout from the gdm greeter?
[10:22] <varsendagger> what is a VT?
[10:22] <tuxi> bob2, but this way i mirror the whole site
[10:22] <omeg> Now all I gotta do is figure out how to open a terminal window
[10:22] <varsendagger> bob2,
[10:22] <bob2> varsendagger: 'startx /usr/bin/fluxbox -- :1' will start a new X server with fluxbox on it
[10:22] <varsendagger> ahhh
[10:22] <bob2> varsendagger: if you don't understand something I suggest, tell me.  silently ignoring it, then claiming it didn't work is really annoying.
[10:23] <Zim_256> somebody knows how to configure the video driver under debian? Please send private!
[10:23] <bob2> omeg: applications > accessories > terminal
[10:23] <bob2> Zim_256: no, ask a proper question
[10:23] <omeg> Oh, it's under accessories now
[10:23] <medgno> how do I check for if GLX is enabled from the terminal?
[10:23] <hav0k> does anyone download podcasts?
[10:23] <bob2> Zim_256: at the minimum, mention what card it is, and what you're trying to do
[10:23] <bob2> hav0k: I hear podcatcher is good
[10:23] <bob2> hav0k: also, apt-cache search podcast
[10:23] <bob2> medgno: glxinfo
[10:23] <Zim_256> it's a Intel Video card
[10:23] <anamaria> can i upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[10:23] <hav0k> hmm, good idea
[10:23] <bob2> omeg: yeah, no idea why it was moved
[10:23] <omeg> bob2: I just pasted mount in #flood.
[10:23] <bob2> anamaria: yes, /topic
[10:23] <bob2> omeg: thanks
[10:23] <lesshaste> Zim_256: the problem is that you need to provide enough information that someone could possibly answer your question. You also need to do it in less than 3 lines :)
[10:23] <varsendagger> bob2,  you are awesome
[10:24] <bob2> Zim_256: as in i810 or i855?
[10:24] <jah_raztah> does ubuntu ship with currupt X11 headers?
[10:24] <varsendagger> anamaria, yes
[10:24] <medgno> it's not installed on the livecd
[10:24] <DShepherd> bob2 : startx /usr/bin/kde for kde??
[10:24] <Zim_256> it comes with a ASRock p4i45GV
[10:24] <anamaria> bob2 how from synaptic?
[10:24] <cfa> rawtek u out there
[10:24] <Zim_256> I really don't know the exact model
[10:24] <hav0k> well, i guess ill just look around for some of them.  thanks bob2
[10:24] <lesshaste> hav0k: not yet :)
[10:24] <bob2> omeg: which in /media are inaccessible?
[10:24] <bob2> DShepherd: startkde, I'd think
[10:24] <DShepherd> ok
[10:24] <Zim_256> but it doesn't work with the intel810 driver
[10:24] <bob2> jah_raztah: yes, ubuntu patches them to be broken
[10:24] <bob2> anamaria: read the channel topic
[10:25] <dreadnought> Ubotu: tell me about java
[10:25] <bob2> Zim_256: you need to find out the model
[10:25] <omeg> bob2: hda2 and sda1.
[10:25] <cius> I runt a dual head xserver to my tv and monitor, but when i play games, I'd like to just run it on my monitor because the screen on the tv causes slow down in my games.  Anyone know how to easily switch between the two?
[10:25] <dreadnought> hey im back on!
[10:25] <bob2> Zim_256: if you have no idea, 'lspci | grep -i display', paste it to #flood
[10:25] <jah_raztah> bob2: why?
[10:25] <bob2> cius: depends how you set it up
[10:25] <cfa> can any1 help ndiswrapper, i have the win inf file
[10:25] <bob2> cius: ie what chipset it is, more or less
[10:25] <bob2> jah_raztah: I'm being sarcastic, of course they're not corrupt
[10:25] <bob2> jah_raztah: if you're having an issue, tell us
[10:26] <bob2> omeg: but sdb1 is fine?
[10:26] <cius> bob2, I'm running a geforce 5900 with nvidia drivers and using nvtv for my tv output
[10:26] <anamaria> bo2
[10:26] <anamaria> bob2
[10:26] <omeg> Yeah, sdb1 is fine. It's FAT32.
[10:26] <bob2> cius: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[10:26] <bob2> er
[10:26] <bob2> cfa: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[10:26] <bob2> anamaria: ?
[10:26] <bob2> cius: nvtv doesn't disable it then?
[10:26] <medgno> does the i810 driver not have support for GLX? I booted from the livecd, and everything's working but that
[10:27] <bob2> omeg: what about 'ls -l /media/', in #flood?
[10:27] <bob2> medgno: works for me
[10:27] <cfa> bob2 thanx will go now BRB
[10:27] <bob2> medgno: sure you're using it and not vesa or such?
[10:27] <Zim_256> It's a Intel Extreme graphics, it's onboard in a intel 845GV chipset
[10:27] <medgno> bob2, thanks. I guess I'll need to install to fight this one
[10:27] <DShepherd> bob2 are you sure you can more than one desktop manageers with the VT?
[10:27] <omeg> bob2: pasting...
[10:27] <treefrog> anyone here have any ecperence with wireless cards? mine is installed or seems to be. enabled but not working.!!
[10:28] <omeg> And done
[10:28] <bob2> DShepherd: I don't know what you mean
[10:28] <omeg> Wow
[10:28] <varsendagger> bob2, i got alot closer with that but it said it can't find cat
[10:28] <bob2> DShepherd: you can only use one window manager per X display, but you can have more than one X server on a machine
[10:28] <cius> bob2, I was under the impression that nvtv did the tv out on nvidia cards.  I didn't think simply killing nvtv would affect the xserver
[10:28] <omeg> Look at the differences in CHMOD.
[10:28] <medgno> bob2, reasonably sure. My /etc/X11/xorg.conf says it's using i810. But I'm not sure if the livecd set things up fully.
[10:28] <bob2> except multiple X servers makes my laptop fuckup on sleep
[10:28] <WhiteScorpion> Hi all
[10:28] <bob2> Zim_256: put your /var/log/X.org.log up somewhere
[10:28] <varsendagger> BRB
[10:28] <medgno> and I'm running a prerelease of breezy, since that was the only iso I had on my computer
[10:28] <bob2> varsendagger: you'd need to show us the full error in #flood
[10:29] <varsendagger> just a sec
[10:29] <DShepherd> bob2: at the vt = startxfce4 says...that server is already active
[10:29] <bob2> cius: hm, not killing it, I thought that command let you enable/diable tv-out.
[10:29] <bob2> cius: I've never used it, tho, so I could certainly be wrong
[10:29] <DShepherd> bob2: I have gdm running
[10:29] <lesshaste> medgno: have you updated?
[10:29] <bob2> DShepherd: if X is already running, it won't work
[10:29] <bob2> DShepherd: right
[10:29] <bob2> DShepherd: startx /usr/bin/whatever -- :1
[10:29] <varsendagger> just a sec
[10:29] <WhiteScorpion> Just a quick question: I love the idea behind ubuntu so i want to put the logo / link on my site as a token of my appreciation. Any idea which logo i could use best?
[10:29] <bob2> DShepherd: that tells it to start display '1' (0 is the default, and is where gdm is running)
[10:30] <cius> bob2, I wonder if disabling tvout would free up the resources used by it on the video card so that my games would run full speed?
[10:30] <DShepherd> bob2 oh thanks
[10:30] <bob2> medgno: hm, ok
[10:30] <dreadnought> hey i think that ubuntu screwed up mi window partition
[10:30] <Zim_256> it runs well with the knoppix 5.6 Live CD, using the i810 driver but i try to use this driver in debian and it doesn't work, It says that i haven't a 810 Vid. card
[10:30] <bob2> medgno: perhaps the snapshot you had was broken, but I don't actually have any evidence for that :)
[10:30] <medgno> lesshaste, the story is, for a long while my laptop's clock would race. I found a kernel parameter to try to pass to it. And this iso was the most recent livecd I had. The clock racing was fixed, so I'm downloading an install cd
[10:30] <bob2> DShepherd: np
[10:30] <Rev-Marc> is there anything I can download to play a video file that is in .wmv format?
[10:30] <bob2> cius: I don't know, I wouldn't think it'd make much difference
[10:31] <medgno> bob2, I wouldn't doubt it
[10:31] <treefrog> WhiteScorpion: just use the one that represents the version you r using.. thats what id do anyway
[10:31] <bob2> Zim_256: er, if you're using Debian, you're in the wrongl channel
[10:31] <varsendagger> Rev-Marc, Mplayer
[10:31] <bob2> Rev-Marc: wiki.ubunut.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:31] <bob2> WhiteScorpion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebsiteButtons
[10:31] <Zim_256> i'm current using a ubuntu LiveCD, sorry
[10:31] <Rev-Marc> mplayer wont play it
[10:31] <lesshaste> medgno: ok.. but can't you just upgrade with apt-get?
[10:31] <WhiteScorpion> treefrog: not using any yet. just ordered the cd.
[10:31] <varsendagger> really?
[10:31] <lesshaste> medgno: which motherboard out of interest?
[10:31] <WhiteScorpion> bob2: thanks !
[10:31] <bob2> WhiteScorpion: np
[10:31] <cius> bob2, ok, thanks, I'll try to find some more info on it.
[10:32] <bob2> omeg: hm, that's the problem, but I wonder why it's doing it
[10:32] <medgno> lesshaste, not sure. It's an hp pavillion laptop, 933 Mhz celeron
[10:32] <omeg> Hmm
[10:32] <bob2> cius: sorry I can't be of more help
[10:32] <omeg> So it's because it's NTFS?
[10:32] <varsendagger> bob2, how could i get the error i over to #flood?
[10:32] <bob2> cius: #nvidia may know more?
[10:32] <omeg> Is it because I updated my system (new Linux kernel, and is still waiting for a reboot)?
[10:32] <mojo> Q_Continuum: Anyone know of good site comparing/listing dial-up ISPs that service USA/Tennessee?  I need Ubuntu-friendly dial-up on a shoe-string budget for my friend.  THANKS!
[10:32] <treefrog> WhiteScorpion: that CD can take a while to land. I'd do an internet caffe job on it.
[10:32] <bob2> omeg: well, that seems to be triggering the bug, but the direct problem is that it's being mounted with the wrong owner
[10:32] <omeg> Aha!
[10:32] <bob2> omeg: oh, what kernel?
[10:33] <omeg> But all my filesystems belong to "root".
[10:33] <WhiteScorpion> treefrog: well, my dad just downloaded it, so i can start as soon as i visit my parents again...
[10:33] <weob> how do i change permissions for a file ?
[10:33] <Zim_256> Ok, i'm just about to toast the Ubuntu install CD to replace Debian
[10:33] <Zim_256> !!
[10:33] <ubotu> I heard ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[10:33] <omeg> I'm not sure, actually. I just clean installed Ubuntu, updated, and it told me that I now have a new Linux kernel and that I should restart as soon as possible.
[10:33] <treefrog> WhiteScorpion: cool. :-)
[10:33] <lesshaste> medgno: and why not upgrade with apt-get?
[10:34] <omeg> So all my filesystems belong to root, and I can access all except those two.
[10:34] <bob2> weob: what are you trying to do?
[10:34] <WhiteScorpion> treefrog: yes it is. I just hope it will be just as much fun as i have with slack now ;-)
[10:34] <lucaas> i have a small issue bugging me, the loopback interface only has an ipv6 adress on startup, so i have to run "sudo ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 up" after every startup, how can i set "lo" to have an ipv4 adress on startup aswell?
[10:34] <lucaas> :)
[10:34] <varsendagger> Zim what's wrong?
[10:34] <omeg> Both inaccessible filesystems are NTFS.
[10:34] <weob> trying to install a file but it has the permission of  root
[10:34] <bob2> omeg: well, it's possible rebooting will help, if other things like udev also got updated
[10:34] <Zim_256> Can i run Win apps in ubuntu?
[10:34] <varsendagger> Zim_256, what's wrong?
[10:34] <omeg> Hmm
[10:34] <bob2> lucaas: paste your /etc/network/interfaces to #flood
[10:34] <thrush> weob: apropos permission
[10:34] <bob2> Zim_256: some of them
[10:34] <weob> copied from ntfs
[10:34] <omeg> But it's kind of strange that it would do that, still.
[10:34] <treefrog> anyone have any experence with Wireles cards.. My Broadcome is there but not working.. !!
[10:34] <Sianis> hi all
[10:34] <DShepherd> bob2 its telling me no protocl specified
[10:34] <bob2> weob: 'sudo chown $USER filename'
[10:34] <The_Belgain> quick question about how hard drive partitions appear in ubuntu... i've used EVMS gui to make some partitions (of type RAID autodetect) on a drive.... running 'fdisk -l' lists the partitions on the this drive as /dev/sdb5, /dev/sdb6 and so on
[10:34] <medgno> lesshaste, the only other install cd I have is 4.10 And I'm on an ungodly slow dorm connection
[10:34] <omeg> I mean, you can't just change the owner or permissions of a hard drive while Linux is running, right?
[10:34] <Sianis> i have a little question
[10:34] <medgno> and I had problems with hoary on that laptop
[10:35] <bob2> treefrog: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[10:35] <Sianis> how can i remove some element outto gnome menu?
[10:35] <The_Belgain> but trying to pass these in to mdadm to create a RAID5 array, it complains that is can't find these?
[10:35] <lesshaste> medgno: ok
[10:35] <bob2> DShepherd: need to see the full error in #flood
[10:35] <Sianis> SMEG doesn't work
[10:35] <The_Belgain> am i missing something about how partitions get named by evms here?
[10:35] <lesshaste> medgno: downloading the install cd should be no faster than upgrading of course
[10:35] <DShepherd> j /#flood
[10:35] <bob2> omeg: you can indeed
[10:35] <omeg> Anyway, thanks for your help so far. I'm going to try restarting.
[10:35] <omeg> Be back in a second...
[10:35] <Sianis> it's an *ing ATI "never Works" Control icon
[10:35] <bob2> omeg: ok
[10:35] <weob> that command didnt work lol
[10:35] <treefrog> bob2: I'll go over it all again but I did that.. Oh well I can only learn more. :-)
[10:36] <Zim_256> i downloaded a lot of Motorola Cell apps and i need win to run it. Actually i have a boottime selector to select which OS start.
[10:36] <bob2> treefrog: then you need to be more specific about what isn't working
[10:36] <cfa> bob2 , i installed the wireless.inf but did not show up in the networking setting. builtin wireless card
[10:36] <medgno> lesshaste, yeah, but I don't feel confident upgrading from 4.10 to 5.10 without a stopover in 5.04
[10:36] <bob2> weob: 'didnt work' is not a useful description of the problem
[10:36] <Sianis> someone? help me pls!
[10:36] <bob2> cfa: ignore that, and read the end of 'dmesg'.
[10:36] <weob> says owned by root...
[10:36] <bob2> Sianis: please stop it
[10:36] <bob2> weob: then you didn't actually run what I said
[10:36] <weob> i need it to be owned by my home
[10:36] <cfa> bob 2
[10:36] <cfa> bob2 ok
[10:36] <bob2> weob: read what I said again, and try again
[10:36] <weob> yes i did
[10:36] <LjL> hm how does one represent a newline in a regexp?
[10:36] <Sianis> bob2, so nobody can answer me? :(
[10:36] <Zim_256> USB drivers and those things will work well under ubuntu?
[10:37] <bob2> weob: if you ran it with sudo, it won't give that error
[10:37] <bob2> Zim_256: usb drivers for *what*?
[10:37] <weob> it didnt give that error
[10:37] <bob2> Zim_256: out of the box, ubuntu supports more hardware than any other OS, yes
[10:37] <Zim_256> Motorola ROKR E1
[10:37] <weob> its not an error = simply when i check the file - it still belongs to root
[10:37] <bob2> (note: I have no evidence for this)
[10:37] <The_Belgain> are regions created by evms supposed to be available to other proggies such as mdadm?
[10:37] <lesshaste> medgno: ok :)
[10:37] <wilstar> how can i install flash plug-in and java in amd64?
[10:37] <Zim_256> I have that phone and i love to tune it
[10:37] <bob2> weob: so, run 'sudo chown $USER filename ; ls -ld filename' and paste the output to #flood
[10:37] <Sianis> How can i delete somthing frome gnome menu?
[10:38] <bob2> Sianis: please stop
[10:38] <bob2> Sianis: just wait patiently
[10:38] <medgno> lesshaste, and it never hurts to have it sitting around if someone else want to be ubuntuified
[10:38] <Sianis> but i have a problem
[10:38] <bob2> Sianis: if no one here knows, perhaps people on the mailing list or forums will know
[10:38] <Zim_256> Where i can find some "Mobile Phone Tools" or similar for linux?
[10:38] <bob2> Sianis: yes, and you already asked.  it's unlikely anyone joined in the last 3 seconds who knew the answer.
[10:38] <bob2> Zim_256: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[10:38] <Sianis> yes sir! :)
[10:38] <bob2> Zim_256: searching for motorola or so would be a good start
[10:38] <DShepherd> Sianis: have you tried menu editor?
[10:38] <treefrog> bob2: ok the card is installed as per HOW TO config broadcom cards un ubuntu. and it is there in system settings and I even managed to enable it. but it is not connecting. iwconfig shows a mac add of 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[10:39] <bob2> wilstar: there's no amd64 flash plugin, afaik
[10:39] <Sianis> yes...i unsigned, restart the panel, but i see already
[10:39] <weob> how do i get wine to run without doing sudo ?
[10:39] <omeg> Hi there.
[10:39] <bob2> wilstar: if you care about binary stuff like that, you'll probably be happier with the i386 port
[10:39] <omeg> No go so far!
[10:39] <bob2> weob: wine never needs to be run under sudo
[10:39] <Sianis> so SMEG doesn't work ....
[10:39] <cfa> bob2: this is what i got - ndiswrapper (ndiswrapper_load_driver:92): loadndiswrapper failed (65280); check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'
[10:39] <DShepherd> Sianis: if not applicatons menu -- system tools -- application menu editor
[10:39] <omeg> bob2: I'm back, and I brought back both the knowledge that the start-up says "failed" for "mounting local volumes" and that when trying to access the drives, I get a more elaborate error message.
[10:39] <wilstar> bob2, can i install firefox i386?
[10:39] <Ahmuck> how do i modify the apt souce list ?
[10:39] <gupta> Quick question, where are the services status(disabled, running etc) stored?? For backup purposes
[10:40] <bob2> cfa: paste the last ten or so lines from /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[10:40] <DShepherd> Sianis: show delete or put anything or everything in the gnome meni
[10:40] <omeg> bob2: Want me to show the error message in #flood?
[10:40] <DShepherd> menu*
[10:40] <weob> well apparently for me it does
[10:40] <Sianis> DShepherd, it is in the application
[10:40] <lekvar> Ahmuck: vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:40] <bob2> omeg: hm, #flood?
[10:40] <weob> its the only way it runs
[10:40] <DShepherd> Sianis:? huh
[10:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ahmuck about repos
[10:40] <omeg> Yeah
[10:40] <bob2> wilstar: the tarball, yes, the .deb, no
[10:40] <omeg> I'll paste it
[10:40] <bob2> wilstar: (not without a chroot, anyway)
[10:40] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> Hello, I have 1 question I asked for cd's in ship it in october 17 and today is November 13... is it normal to take so long to ship it?
[10:40] <bob2> gupta: they're not
[10:40] <omeg> There it is
[10:40] <Zim_256> Search for Motorola: 0 results :(
[10:40] <lucaas> bob2, i see that lots of people are bugging you, but if you want to look at it, its here: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4500
[10:40] <bob2> gupta: or, they are, in /etc/rc2.d/
[10:40] <Sianis> SMEG see the icon, but i cannot deselect, or delete
[10:40] <bob2> Ahmuck: what are you trying to do?
[10:40] <thrush> W|-|ite_Wol|-: thats not long trust me
[10:40] <Ahmuck> get scim-anthy
[10:40] <ksmurf> I'm having issues with smeg.  My .config dir does not exist?    How can I fix it?
[10:40] <bob2> W|-|ite_Wol|-: you would not believe how many jillion cds have been ordered
[10:40] <gupta> k thax bob2. any other way to backup services status?
[10:41] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> I live in portugal... :-S
[10:41] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> bob2 yes i know
[10:41] <bob_> anyone have any success with the ATI All In Wonder 9800?
[10:41] <joosep> When trying to mount an USB stick i get "Error: could not execute pmount"
[10:41] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> when its free many people order.
[10:41] <bob2> gupta: the default is for everything to run on boot, so, by default, htere's not much to backup
[10:41] <joosep> how to fix it?
[10:41] <DShepherd> Sianis: what program?
[10:41] <bob2> bob_: you need to be more specific about what you're trying to do with it
[10:41] <Zim_256> Ok, i gotta go!
[10:41] <lucaas> W|-|ite_Wol|-, if you want the cd fast, i sugest downloading and burning it
[10:41] <bob2> bob_: it should work out of he box with X
[10:41] <Yulia> hi...
[10:41] <Zim_256> Thanks for everything!
[10:41] <bob2> joosep: this is a default breezy system?
[10:41] <omeg> So
[10:41] <Sianis> DShepherd, it's an ATI control icon
[10:41] <lucaas> lo Yulia :>
[10:41] <bob_> it does work with X, but no tv capture...
[10:41] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> lucaas i know :-) just want the original to have it :-)
[10:42] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> heheh
[10:42] <gteppel> I'm in a quandry... I've used KDE in the past and find it just to messy to look, I love the simplicity of gnome! However KDE seems to be faster, window minizming/maxamizing transitions are nice and smooth and the gui is more responsive. I realize that most of this has to do with the window manager and the blame doesn't rest completely on the desktop enviroment. What other window managers are out there that will provide nicer looking
[10:42] <gteppel> gui animations and will just generally speed up my desktop. I find gnome is unbearbley slow and I have a AMD 1800XP, 768 RAM, and Geforce4 128MB video card. I hate to make the comparison but I'm looking for the way Windows and OSX feels, not looks, but just feels. Hope I'm making sense!, any help would be appreciated!
[10:42] <DShepherd> Sianis: you just dont want it to show in the menus right?
[10:42] <omeg> It seems like Ubuntu just doesn't know how to access my NTFS external hard disk. Too bad. :(
[10:42] <bob2> lucaas: the '
[10:42] <Yulia> is not there a bitcomet package for ubuntu?
[10:42] <bob2> ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 up' line should not be there
[10:42] <Zim_256> And greetz from     A r g e n t i n a  ! ! !
[10:42] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> oki well i supose i just wait a bit :-)
[10:42] <cfa> non2 i did
[10:42] <Sianis> DShepherd, yes yes
[10:42] <bob2> bob_: do you need gatos for that?
[10:42] <joosep> bob2: no actually it's a downgraded kubuntu system with ubuntu-desktop installed
[10:42] <bob_> bob2:i installed gatos, but still no joy..
[10:42] <bob2> bob_: ok
[10:42] <bob2> joosep: uh
[10:42] <bob_> bob2: i need a direction to start working in.
[10:42] <lucaas> bob2, okay, thanks alot, i'l try without it
[10:42] <joosep> bob2: but breezy yes
[10:42] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> gatos means Cats in portuguese
[10:42] <bob2> joosep: do you have pmount installed?
[10:42] <joosep> bob2: yes
[10:42] <bob_> y espanol
[10:43] <bluefrog-10> who could point me to a working /etc/skel howto, not theroy that everybody's is rewriting happily without understanding how to do it
[10:43] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> :-D
[10:43] <Yulia> lucaas, ??
[10:43] <DShepherd> Sianis: open smeg
[10:43] <bob2> omeg: hm, and your /etc/fstab?
[10:43] <lucaas> Yulia, lo=hello
[10:43] <lucaas> :>
[10:43] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> I hope some day ubuntu live cd brings de gcc mips compiler :-|
[10:43] <Sianis> DShepherd, opened
[10:43] <bob2> W|-|ite_Wol|-: huh?
[10:43] <omeg> It shows the drives as NTFS volumes.
[10:43] <Yulia> ups!
[10:43] <bob2> W|-|ite_Wol|-: you can install a cross-compiler on it if you want to
[10:43] <DShepherd> Sianis: you see applications at the top?
[10:44] <lesshaste> omeg: I assure you it can be done in ubuntu :)
[10:44] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> I know.. but im rookie
[10:44] <bob2> W|-|ite_Wol|-: there is no way a mips cross-compiler is going to be on the live cd by default
[10:44] <Sianis> DShepherd, yes!
[10:44] <omeg> Let me paste what fstab says in #flood, then
[10:44] <DShepherd> Sianis: in the right panel....you should still all the stuff unda apps
[10:44] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> bob2 it has for x86 architecture
[10:44] <cius> do .desktop files in the xsessions dir contain info about which server layout to use (after login from gdm)
[10:44] <cius> ?
[10:44] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> its only some few files.. lol.. i need to learn how to install it
[10:44] <Xyc1> what is the IRC command to get rid of your ghosts or w/e they are called?
[10:44] <DShepherd> Sianis: you shoould be able to check and uncheck over there
[10:44] <bob2> W|-|ite_Wol|-: apt-cache show toolchain-source
[10:44] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> its very usefull to see the assembler code of mips
[10:45] <bob2> cius: don't think so
[10:45] <szaz> hello all...
[10:45] <bob2> Xyc1: it's server specific; /msg nickserv help
[10:45] <szaz> I could do with some help sorting out a users/groups problem
[10:45] <szaz> any takers?
[10:45] <Sianis> DShepherd, i try it jet, i unsigned not once, but when close, it's signe again
[10:45] <cius> bob2, k, thanks
[10:45] <DShepherd> Sianis: still = see
[10:45] <lesshaste> omeg: sda1 is the one you are trying to mount?
[10:45] <Sianis> DShepherd, i don't understand why...i cannot unsig or delet it
[10:45] <bob2> szaz: it's a lot easier if you just ask
[10:46] <szaz> I use usermod to change the groups I belong to - I must have missed something - sudo no longer works
[10:46] <erUSUL> szaz, ask and we'll see if somebody can help
[10:46] <bob2> lesshaste: ok, you were right, my apologies :-)
[10:46] <omeg> Yeah, sda1. Actually, for some reason it's no longer giving me an error message when I try to view it now, just a blank folder.
[10:46] <lesshaste> bob2: :)
[10:46] <bob2> omeg: comment out those lines in /etc/fstab (add a # to the beginning of the line)
[10:46] <synapsis_> hello i just wanted to say i'm finally getting out of windows and i'm looking forward to using ubuntu. however i'm installing as we speak, if someone could assist me, i would much appreciate it
[10:46] <paul__> How do I install my printer when connected to a router
[10:46] <omeg> bob2: it's a read-only file.
[10:46] <erUSUL> szaz, you have deleted your user from admin group
[10:46] <bob2> synapsis_: best to just ask specific questions as you come upon them
[10:46] <Xyc0> bob2: thanks again bob2
[10:46] <DShepherd> Sianis: not sure why you having the prob....
[10:47] <lesshaste> omeg: can you use the command line?
[10:47] <nitrocks> is there a way to do an install of ubuntu strictly over the net?.. i'm having some issues with my cd drive, it keeps failing in the middle of the install at different points, with different cds
[10:47] <bob2> szaz: why did you change your default group selection?
[10:47] <lesshaste> omeg: it is easier for me :)
[10:47] <synapsis_> bobslaede: thanks
[10:47] <bobessutio> what do I need for tv capture under linux?
[10:47] <synapsis_> erase entire disk, or erase entire disk and use LVM ?
[10:47] <szaz> yes - I think I have
[10:47] <weob> anyone else have problem with acid rip crashing-freezing- i tried xvid codec -
[10:47] <bob2> omeg: 'sudo nano /etc/fstab', it should have help at the bottom of the screen
[10:47] <nitrocks> can i do an install from grub?
[10:47] <szaz> How do I get back in the group without acces to sudo?
[10:47] <bob2> szaz: reboot into recovery mode (it's a grub option at boot time), and run 'adduser yourusername admin'
[10:47] <bob2> nitrocks: theoretically
[10:47] <Sianis> DShepherd, that's the probleme why i ' am here ... i thing i not lama, but this probleme is the hard for me
[10:47] <cfa> bob2 i pasted the info on #flood
[10:47] <synapsis_> i'm unsure what LVM means, and if i should use it when i'm installing ubuntu
[10:47] <nitrocks> bob2: where should i start?
[10:47] <omeg> Okay, both of those lines are commented out and the file is saved.
[10:48] <DShepherd> Sianis: srry but I can help ypu
[10:48] <etherclear> synapsis: do you plan on dual-booting the system?
[10:48] <DShepherd> you*
[10:48] <Xyc0> bobessutio: Im pretty sure it depends on your video card/drivers
[10:48] <lesshaste> bob2: I'll leave you to it :) good luck!
[10:48] <synapsis_> etherclear: negitive, i want to use strictly ubuntu
[10:48] <szaz> Thankyou - how do I invoke grub?
[10:48] <Sianis> DShepherd, so i thanks
[10:48] <bobessutio> Xyc0: ok, thanks
[10:48] <Xyc0> bobessutio: what are you using?
[10:48] <bobessutio> Xyc0: ATI all in wonder 9800 pro
[10:49] <Xyc0> bobessutio: Oh me too :D
[10:49] <synapsis_> etherclear: i figure that didn't answer your question did it? =P
[10:49] <bobessutio> Xyc0: any luck?
[10:49] <lesshaste> omeg: I am leaving you in the trusty hands of bob2 :)
[10:49] <Orborde> What's the CLI command to count the number of lines in a text file?
[10:49] <erUSUL> szaz, boot with a livecd and edit /etc/groups directly
[10:49] <etherclear> synapsis: then if you have no data on the drive tell it to erase the disk
[10:49] <Sianis> bye all good night
[10:49] <bob2> synapsis_: if you don't know what it means, don't use it
[10:49] <bob2> lesshaste: adios, thanks :-)
[10:49] <synapsis_> etherclear: thanks =)
[10:49] <lesshaste> omeg: it should be mount ro of course
[10:49] <omeg> Okay :P A "cdrom0" popped up, by the way. And I only have one DVD-RAM drive.
[10:49] <lesshaste> NOT rw
[10:49] <etherclear> synapsis: sry just slow here
[10:49] <bob2> Orborde: wc -l filename
[10:49] <lesshaste> omeg: add noauto,ro,users
[10:49] <Corin> can anyone here help me with webmin?
[10:50] <bob2> omeg: that's normal(ish)
[10:50] <Corin> or proftpd?
[10:50] <erUSUL> Orborde, wc
[10:50] <szaz> bob2: thanks, I'll give it a go
[10:50] <lesshaste> omeg: instead of defaults
[10:50] <omeg> lesshaste: er... how?
[10:50] <nitrocks> what would be the easiset way to install ubuntu w/o copying the files from the cdrom?.. i'm able to boot off a cd, but once i start doing heavy data transfers from a cd, I get I/O errors..
[10:50] <jonaz> is there a way to show hidden files with xfce? i cant find the setting
[10:50] <Orborde> bob2 / erUSUL : Thanks
[10:50] <lesshaste> omeg: ask bob2  :) bye
[10:50] <bob2> omeg: you'll probably need to unmount everything on the usb drives and replug them
[10:50] <omeg> But I just commented the lines out.
[10:50] <Ophiocus> is there a way to put like a confirm window before closing xchat?
[10:50] <bob2> nitrocks: whatsort of machine is it?
[10:50] <synapsis_> etherclear: its ok. it says that partion #1 (hda) as ext3, and partion #5 (hda) as swap. is it ok with deleting those?
[10:50] <nitrocks> can i use a standards x86 install iso?
[10:50] <Corin> anyone? help with webmin or proftpd?
[10:50] <bobessutio> Xyc0: have you gottend tv capture to work?
[10:50] <Corin> please
[10:50] <nitrocks> bob2: dell inspiron 9100 laptop
[10:50] <Corin> :)
[10:50] <bob2> omeg: yeah, but they won't be remounted with the new settings until you replug them
[10:51] <bob2> nitrocks: can it PXE boot?
[10:51] <omeg> Okay, so I have to unplug them and replug them.
[10:51] <bob2> Corin: you haven't asked a real question yet
[10:51] <Xyc0> bobessutio: I have b4, im looking at my bookmarks to see what could help you
[10:51] <bob2> omeg: after unmounting them, yes
[10:51] <nitrocks> bob2: i'm not sure i know what a PXE boot is
[10:51] <omeg> ah
[10:51] <etherclear> synapsis_: hmm, did you just write those to the drive or were they there from a previous linux install?
[10:51] <bobessutio> Xyc0: cool, thanks
[10:51] <szaz> has anyone here successfully installed TurboGears on Breezy Badger?
[10:51] <nitrocks> bob2: network?
[10:51] <[linner] > hello everyone ;)
[10:51] <nalioth> [linner] : howdy
[10:52] <[linner] > nalioth:  how are ya'?
[10:52] <Corin> bob2, ive installed apache, mysql, php, phpmyadmin, webmin and proftpd
[10:52] <bob2> nitrocks: yeah
[10:52] <omeg> Actually, I just replugged them (without reading your last message) and they just popped up on my screen. "Dada" and "LACIE" are now working fine. Although my NTFS Windows volume isn't, but that's not a big deal.
[10:52] <bob2> nitrocks: that'd be the simplest solution
[10:52] <synapsis_> etherclear: i previously was trying to install about half an hour ago, before i cancled to go and backup some things. so it may have been created within the initial installation, i'm unsure.
[10:52] <Corin> i want to give ftp access to /var/www/folder1/
[10:52] <bob2> szaz: yes, it's simple
[10:52] <Corin> and to get webmin working...
[10:52] <[linner] > !tell me about mulitverse
[10:52] <szaz> I've tried all day - no luck
[10:52] <wastrel> hi - i have an inkjet printer set up using CUPS, epson stylus c86...  I need to clean the print heads, epson's site says i should use an epson utility to do this... is there any equivalent in CUPS or ubuntu?
[10:52] <[linner] > !tell me about repositories
[10:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell [linner]  about sources
[10:52] <bob2> omeg: to fix that, replace 'defaults' with 'defaults,umask=000' in /etc/fstab, for the windows hard disk
[10:52] <szaz> Loads of errors resulting in gcc exiting with status 1
[10:52] <[linner] > thank you nalioth
[10:52] <bob2> Corin: I'm not sure what this has to do with webmin
[10:53] <varsendagger> hey waht has two thumbs and can fun xfce and fluxbox at the same time?
[10:53] <bob2> Corin: configuring proftpd to do that is simple
[10:53] <bob2> szaz: which you're going to paste in #flood...?
[10:53] <etherclear> synapsis_: okay, then its probably okay to wipe those so as to have a clean drive, then just do the same thing and ubuntu will automatically set up your filesystem and swap
[10:53] <varsendagger> this guy
[10:53] <bob2> hah
[10:53] <bob2> congrats
[10:53] <szaz> bob2: er... I will when I sort out this sudo problem!
[10:53] <[linner] > nalioth:  i'm trying to update my repos again so i can get mulitverse stuff too ... couldn't do it the other night cause they were down
[10:53] <cfa> bob2  i c u r busy is there any1 else i can talk to about the ndiswrapper failing
[10:53] <Xyc0> bobessutio: look into Freevo packages
[10:53] <Corin> bob2, maybe its simple, but how do i do it?
[10:53] <omeg> Actually, since I don't want to even touch that drive at all, I think I might just leave it as it is. Thanks a lot, bob2. :)
[10:53] <szaz> bob2: can't run the install command at present
[10:54] <weob> how do i link wine to run so that it will run when i type it in terminal?
[10:54] <varsendagger> wait wait it crashed
[10:54] <Dez[debian] > i need some help
[10:54] <varsendagger> :(
[10:54] <bobessutio> Xyc0: cool, brb
[10:54] <bob2> szaz: oh, rebooting into recovery mode will fix that
[10:54] <Xyc0> bobessutio: i think ubuntuforums has some good infor on it
[10:54] <Dez[debian] > how do i reconfigure my screen Resolution
[10:54] <bob2> cfa: did you paste the bit of syslog to #flood that Iasked for?
[10:54] <bob2> Corin: edit the proftpd config file
[10:54] <bob2> omeg: no problem, good luck
[10:54] <bob2> watnu: how do you mean?
[10:54] <bob2> !+fixres
[10:54] <synapsis_> etherclear: much appreciated, i'll let you know if i run inot anything else
[10:54] <ubotu> from memory, fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:54] <bob2> Dez[debian] : ^
[10:54] <szaz> bob2: I installed python2.4-dev package, did you have to install anything else prior to running the turboGears setup.py scrtipt?
[10:54] <cfa> bob2 i pasted the /ect/apt/source.list
[10:55] <Dez[debian] > Thx bob
[10:55] <bob2> cfa: and the end of /var/log/syslog
[10:55] <Corin> bob2, where is the config file? (forgive me, i am new to linux, even newer to ubuntu, even newer to command-line, and even newer to proftpd! lol)
[10:55] <cfa> bob2 ok
[10:55] <etherclear> synapsis: okay cool, your gonna love ubuntu :)
[10:55] <bob2> Corin: /etc/protftpd.conf, or so
[10:55] <nalioth> Corin: we can help you elsewhere
[10:55] <Xyc0> bobessutio: I think Myth TV is another open project
[10:55] <bob2> szaz: don't think so; the error woul probably make it clear what you're missing, tho
[10:56] <szaz> bob2: Hundreds of warnings seemed to be related to cElementTree
[10:56] <synapsis_> etherclear: i'm seriously looking forward to it, i've wnated out of windows so badly, but i didn't wanna run into all sorts of problems with linux and not know the first thing to do.
[10:56] <bob2> szaz: ah, python2.4-celementree then
[10:56] <bob2> the bane of bzr
[10:56] <szaz> bob2: Seemed to suggest syntax errors in the install script
[10:56] <joosep> why can i only mount /dev/sda1 as root even in nautilus?
[10:56] <Xyc0> synapsis_: theres no problems, they are features! *oad to gates
[10:56] <bobessutio> Xyc0: my main problem seems to be a lack of driver. ie no /dev/video0
[10:56] <szaz> bob2: I do appear to have the latest version of ez_setup.py
[10:57] <synapsis_> Xyc0: hahaha
[10:57] <bob2> joosep: be more specific
[10:57] <synapsis_> base system installation error: the debootstrap progra mexited with an error (return value 1). Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for the details.
[10:57] <Xyc0> bobessutio: did you install the xorg-driver-fglrx for your system?
[10:57] <synapsis_> should i continue?
[10:57] <etherclear> synapsis_: it can be intimidating, but you can find solutions to most problems in channels like this, on the ubuntu wiki, or elsewhere...the community is great
[10:57] <cfa> bob2 ok i added the syslog
[10:58] <joosep> bob2: when i plug in my usbstick and right-click to mount it in nautilus i get the pmount error. But when i run nautilus as root i can mount it and view the files normally
[10:58] <Xyc0> synapsis_: does that happen on a clean isntall?
[10:58] <synapsis_> etherclear: thats the reason why i'm here for just installing it =)
[10:58] <Xyc0> install*
[10:58] <synapsis_> Xyc0: yes
[10:58] <bob2> synapsis_: sure the CD is ok?
[10:58] <synapsis_> it should be, i just burned it
[10:58] <Corin> bob2, im not sure which bits to edit...
[10:58] <bobessutio> Xyc0: will that do the trick?
[10:58] <bob2> joosep: you shouldn't have to right click anything to mount it
[10:59] <Xyc0> synapsis_: yea, either the cd is corrupted or the format didnt go well
[10:59] <Dez[debian] > brb
[10:59] <synapsis_> xyc0: should i continue anyways?
[10:59] <etherclear> synapsis_: are you sure you wiped the drive?
[10:59] <bob2> Corin: good point
[10:59] <synapsis_> etherclear: i selected the "erase entire drive" option
[10:59] <Corin> ?
[10:59] <bob2> Corin: what are you planning to do with this ftp server? just anonymous downloads?
[10:59] <etherclear> synapsis_: mk
[10:59] <joosep> bob2: well doubleclicking yields the same results
[10:59] <bobessutio> Xyc0: gonna try reinstalling driver,brb
[10:59] <Corin> bob2, i have set up a lamp server
[10:59] <Xyc0> bobessutio: do you know how?
[11:00] <szaz> bob2: I'll sort my user group problems and get back - perhaps you can give be some ideas later
[11:00] <bluefrog-10>  i'd like to know how to make users use the same background and have same icons on their desktop/taskbar using /etc/skel, who could point me to an howto with example or explain to me how to achieve that, pls?
[11:00] <szaz> bob2: Cheers
[11:00] <Corin> i want to give ftp access to people who want sites on my server
[11:00] <Xyc0> tell bobessutio binary
[11:00] <Corin> friends
[11:00] <Xyc0> I can never get ubotu working
[11:00] <bobessutio> Xyc0: lol
[11:00] <Xyc0> !tell bobessutio binary
[11:00] <synapsis_> etherclear & xyc0: should i continue even though i have this error?
[11:01] <Corin> ??
[11:01] <bobessutio> Xyc0: persnickety bots
[11:01] <Xyc0> synapsis_: yes, but you should consider getting a clean copy of ubuntu
[11:01] <Corin> bob2?
[11:01] <Xyc0> bobessutio: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:02] <bobessutio> Xyc0: cool, thanks
[11:02] <Xyc0> bobessutio: follow directions for Hoary, not warty
[11:02] <bob2> Corin: you are aware that ftp is a big security issue, right?
[11:02] <Corin> how?
[11:02] <bob2> bluefrog-10: desktop icons would be done by making /etc/ske/Desktop and putting some .desktop files in it
[11:02] <etherclear> synapsis_: did you do check the disk you are using to make sure it was ok?
[11:02] <cfa> Corinuse ftp over ssh
[11:02] <cfa> Corin use ftp over ssh
[11:02] <bob2> bluefrog-10: background would be simpler with gconf hacks, I'd think (ie edit the schema?)
[11:03] <bob2> Corin: because it sends passwords in plain text
[11:03] <synapsis_> etherclear: i believe so... what would i do to check if it was ok?
[11:03] <Corin> bob2, but all professional servers use ftp...?
[11:03] <bob2> Corin: this sounds like you want users to have seperate dirs they can ftp to
[11:03] <Corin> bob2, yes
[11:03] <bob2> Corin: only the poorly managed ones, or ones that have to deal with windows users
[11:04] <Corin> to be honest, no one will try hacking it lol
[11:04] <bluefrog-10> bob2, i need to have them in /etc/skel cause in fact i want to make /etc/skel /etc/skel1 /etc/skel2 so that depending on groups they are in users will have have diffrent things
[11:04] <kapputu> do wireless cards based on TI chipset have support in Ubuntu?
[11:04] <adriyel> Ti Chipsets are fairly non standard
[11:04] <adriyel> I'll venture a guess and say no
[11:04] <ubuntu> blaa?
[11:05] <kapputu> there was no support in Hoary
[11:05] <ubuntu> blaa? blaa?
[11:05] <dreadnought> where is the firefox directory in my computer?
[11:05] <cfa> bob2 any info on the things i pasted
[11:05] <Xyc0> kapputu: if not, ndiswrapper can use the windows drivers in ubuntu
[11:05] <Corin> bob?
[11:05] <tarheelcoxn> dreadnought: are you looking for something you downloaded?
[11:05] <adriyel> Xyc0, that too. :|
[11:05] <folha> ntu
[11:05] <ubuntu> Bob who? me?
[11:05] <Corin> bob2, ok, but how can i get ftp working?
[11:05] <Xyc0> Corin: apache
[11:05] <dreadnought> tarheelcoxn: no i need to change to that dir
[11:06] <Corin> Xyc0, ive installed apache....
[11:06] <Corin> i need ftp too
[11:06] <Corin> i need ftp access to the apache folders, ie /var/www/
[11:06] <Xyc0> Corin: hehe, get network certified?
[11:06] <dreadnought> tarheelcoxn: it should be the same 4 u too if ur running hoary
[11:06] <etherclear> synapsis_: I use cksum, but you arent on linux yet... um i bet there was an md5 with your disk image
[11:06] <Corin> lol
[11:06] <Corin> but anyway, please helo
[11:06] <tarheelcoxn> dreadnought: whereis firefox
[11:06] <Corin> :D
[11:06] <bob2> bluefrog-10: that will be hard then
[11:06] <Corin> help*
[11:06] <tarheelcoxn> dreadnought: from a command line
[11:07] <dreadnought> tarheelcoxn: well mozilla and in nautilus
[11:07] <ubuntu> help*
[11:07] <cfa> Corin start the service in init.d
[11:07] <ubuntu> help
[11:07] <kapputu> yes I have been using it that way for sometime but for some reason it doesn't start during boot
[11:07] <Xyc0> Corin: seriously tho, people make money of setting up networks and FTP, you may want to take a class on it
[11:07] <kapputu> I have to connect manually and the connection often drops
[11:07] <Xyc0> lots of money
[11:07] <dreadnought> tarheelcoxn: i need to put it in to the terminal to run something
[11:07] <tarheelcoxn> dreadnought: what is it that you're trying to do?
[11:07] <dreadnought> tarheelcoxn: and i cant find it
[11:07] <bob2> Corin: simplest is to just make users using adduser
[11:07] <dreadnought> tarheelcoxn: still tryin to do java r e
[11:08] <bob2> Corin: then they can ftp to their homedir
[11:08] <KinkoBlast> What good music creation software exists for linux. Creation, NOT playback.
[11:08] <Corin> cfa, i am new to this stuff, i dont understand what u said...
[11:08] <bob2> Corin: you'll need to configure apache approriately
[11:08] <bob2> KinkoBlast: I'd think you'd need to be more specific about what you mean
[11:08] <Xyc0> Corin: are you trying to share files on a home network?
[11:08] <Corin> bob2, any chance you could talk me through it?
[11:08] <tarheelcoxn> dreadnought: oh... sorry.. can't help you there
[11:08] <tarheelcoxn> ask the bot about java
[11:08] <Corin> Xyc0, no, web server
[11:08] <bob2> Corin: bear in mind you're in "if you're running a hosting company, you should know what you're doing or hire someone who does" territory
[11:08] <dreadnought> Well who can....?
[11:08] <Corin> bob2, im not running a company lol
[11:08] <bob2> Corin: sorry, have to get to my real job at some point
[11:08] <dreadnought> that doesnt work for me
[11:09] <Corin> little more help bob2?
[11:09] <Corin> :)
[11:09] <Xyc0> Corin: but you don't think anyone will mess with it?!  Dont be nieve
[11:09] <Xyc0> thanks for the help bob2!
[11:09] <KinkoBlast> bob2: Like Finale. Only for GNU/Linux. Pref. GTK+ w/o GNOME dependincies, but that's not all that important.
[11:09] <Corin> 1: how do i add users
[11:09] <bob2> Xyc0: np.
[11:09] <Xyc0> Tell bob1 i said hi
[11:09] <dreadnought> can someone tell me where in nautilus is mozilla located?
[11:09] <Corin> 2: how do i configure apache?
[11:09] <bob2> KinkoBlast: I don't know what finale is
[11:09] <Xyc0> and Bob0
[11:09] <bob2> Corin: adduser
[11:10] <small> hello
[11:10] <bob2> Corin: you'll be making a new entry in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ for each website, based on the default template
[11:10] <KinkoBlast> Bob2: It's a music editor with an interface that looks like sheet music.
[11:10] <small> ?
[11:10] <bob2> KinkoBlast: ah, perhaps lilypond4 will suit you
[11:10] <dreadnought> use fruity loops its much better
[11:11] <dreadnought> much much!
[11:11] <Corin> bob2, where do i do adduser?
[11:11] <phillambrechts> I have an nvidia ac97 coundcard, how can I get it to play more than one sound using the Last.fm player
[11:11] <cfa> Corin r u new to Linux, if so u should get a book for new users. It will help in all linux distros.
[11:11] <Dez[debian] > how do i mount my Windows XP Partition so i can get my Music from Windows
[11:11] <Dez[debian] > ?
[11:11] <Xyc0> dreadnought: and Project One is better the fruity loops, but we arnt willing to spend 500 on it
[11:11] <dreadnought> or acid pro
[11:11] <fredy2> hola
[11:11] <Xyc0> Dez[debian] : google how to mount ntfs
[11:11] <dreadnought> u can geta cheap 150 usd one
[11:12] <bob2> Corin: in the terminal...
[11:12] <lightbright> some say ubuntu is great, but they rushed breezy and it has a ton of problems!  What kind of problems?
[11:12] <cfa> Corin it will explain how to add users and start services like FTPd and HTTPd
[11:12] <Xyc0> Dez[debian] : you do it trough /etc/fstab for automaticaly mounting
[11:12] <eren> is there a way to control my cpu fan speed in ubuntu?
[11:12] <Xyc0> Dez[debian] : and writablilty with NTFS is rather unstable, so it is read only
[11:12] <dreadnought> well can any one tell me where mozilla is located in nautilus?
[11:12] <Duelus> how do I add screen resolutions bigger then 1024 by 786?
[11:12] <Dez[debian] > i just want to Read it Xyc0
[11:12] <Dez[debian] > when i click on HDA1 it tells me i dont have permission
[11:12] <cfa> bob2 should i uncomment anything in the source.list and what about the syslog
[11:12] <lightbright> does breezy have a lot of problems?
[11:13] <Corin> bob2, adduser in terminal created a new linux user...?
[11:13] <Elsan> Any idea when the OpenOffice.org 2.0 will be available in the repositories&?
[11:13] <bob2> cfa: that error indicates you didn't give it the right path for the inf file
[11:13] <bob2> !+info openoffice.org2 dapper
[11:13] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[11:13] <ubotu> openoffice.org2: (OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0), section editors, is optional. Version: 1.9.129-0.1ubuntu4 (dapper), Packaged size: 73 kB, Installed size: 192 kB
[11:13] <bob2> cfa: yes
[11:13] <cfa> bob2 ok i will try agian
[11:13] <lightbright> Elsan: why you want office 2?
[11:13] <lightbright> Elsan: what can office 2 do for you that the older cant?
[11:13] <dreadnought> well can any one tell me where mozilla is located in nautilus?
[11:14] <Elsan> lightbright: Just curious, I got OO.org on my Windows and I don't see any difference, I'm just curious.
[11:14] <Xyc0> Dez[debian] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:14] <bob2> dreadnought: you mean "Can someone tell me where on the filesystem the mozilla executable is?"?
[11:14] <kapputu> dreadnought, I have been trying to find that out too
[11:14] <Dez[debian] > xyc0 its already mounted
[11:14] <bob2> dreadnought: /usr/bin/mozilla, but it's just ashell script
[11:14] <phillambrechts> Ok, In a bash script how can I kill esd while a program i specify is running and launch it after that program is closed?
[11:14] <eren> where is the best place for support online?  (the wiki?)
[11:14] <Xyc0> Dez[debian] : oh then you need to change the permissions
[11:14] <dreadnought> i just need the path thanks
[11:14] <dreadnought> il try that
[11:14] <cfa> bob2 what should i uncomment, sorry, i am new to debian and unbuntu, RH and FreeBSD is what i know
[11:14] <lightbright> Elsan: what?
[11:14] <bob2> phillambrechts: pkill esd ; blah ; esd -nobeeps&
[11:14] <bob2> cfa: I didn't say to uncomment anything
[11:14] <Xyc0> Dez[debian] : that can be done by editing /etc/fstab, but read about it before you do
[11:14] <bob2> cfa: the log says it couldn't find the .inf file
[11:14] <cfa> bob2 ok
[11:15] <phillambrechts> bob2, thanks a lot, i'll try it
[11:15] <Dez[debian] > ok thanks xyc0
[11:15] <bob2> cfa: I'm really pretty sure following the howto I gave you would get it working...
[11:15] <Elsan> lightbright: I was just curious to know
[11:15] <treefrog> bob2:  is resolvconf necessary for a wireless card to install correctly and connect to a router? Im trying to figure out if that is my reason for not having a mac add when doing iwconfg
[11:15] <lightbright> Elsan: know what?
[11:15] <cfa> bob2 ok
[11:15] <Elsan> lightbright: If it was gonna be available in the repositories
[11:15] <synapsis_> etherclear & xyc0: update, everythings failing.
[11:15] <bob2> treefrog: no
[11:15] <bob2> treefrog: it's a pain in the arse
[11:16] <synapsis_> everything has failed.
[11:16] <Xyc0> synapsis_: what do you mean?
[11:16] <Xyc0> synapsis_: when you boot?
[11:16] <synapsis_> all sorts of errors
[11:16] <urbanfox|away> hrm, 32 MB is low enough to qualify as a "low memory mode" install?
[11:16] <dreadnought> it says "Go to the plugins sub-directory under the Mozilla installation directory
[11:16] <dreadnought> cd <Mozilla installation directory>/plugins"\
[11:16] <synapsis_> nah i have yet to even fully install it
[11:16] <angvp> hiya, anyone have been configured a webcam in linux?
[11:16] <treefrog> bob2: humm ya thought about asking before i try to install... thanks.. any idea where I should be looking??
[11:16] <dreadnought> what goes in the <>'s
[11:17] <synapsis_> in the midst of the installation i've encountered like 5 errors already
[11:17] <synapsis_> this really bums me out
[11:17] <Xyc0> synapsis_: wha, what part of installation?
[11:17] <synapsis_> "install the base system" or ""copy remaining packages to hard disk"
[11:17] <synapsis_> or=and
[11:18] <jnymo> anybody know of where to get info on installing a windows nic card on ubuntu?
[11:18] <bob2> treefrog: I don't know where you're stuck
[11:18] <bob2> urbanfox|away: yes, sadly
[11:18] <dreadnought> ubotu: tell synapsis about enter
[11:18] <bob2> urbanfox|away: it may not work at all, breezy had regressions wrt lowmem installs, dunno if they were completely fixed
[11:19] <dreadnought> so i take no one knows how to help me then?
[11:19] <bob2> dreadnought: I don't thin kyou've asked a coherent answerable question yet
[11:19] <Corin> bob2?
[11:19] <bob2> dreadnought: what are yo utrying to do?
[11:19] <jnymo> ~ndiswrapper
[11:20] <synapsis_> ubotu: tell synapsis_ about enter
[11:20] <dreadnought> bob2: figure out where the mozilla stuff is in nautilus
[11:20] <Corin> bob2, how can i add a user to proftpd?
[11:20] <treefrog> jnymo:  ~ndiswrapper indeed.
[11:20] <bob2> Corin: ?
[11:20] <bob2> dreadnought: no, that's not your goal
[11:20] <bob2> dreadnought: what is your endgoal?
[11:20] <bob2> Corin: sudo adduser blah
[11:21] <phillambrechts> bob2, how can i tell if esd is running or not?
[11:21] <Corin> bob2, that adds a user to the computer, not the ftp...
[11:21] <dreadnought> bob2: to install and use jre
[11:21] <jnymo> ubotu: tell me about ndiswrapper
[11:21] <dreadnought> like ive been tryin for weeks now
[11:21] <bob2> Corin: incorrect
[11:21] <bob2> phillambrechts: 'pidof esd'
[11:21] <bob2> dreadnought: so say that
[11:21] <Corin> then ok, ive added a user...
[11:21] <dreadnought> bob2: so do you know?
[11:21] <bob2> dreadnought: where did you mention which step of wiki.ubuntu.com/Java doesn't work?
[11:22] <phillambrechts> bob2, it returned 574, does that mean its running"
[11:22] <synapsis_> welll all the ubuntu files are all corrupt
[11:22] <synapsis_> and i'm gettin upset.
[11:22] <Janbanan> Can someone help me with a mount problem?
[11:22] <bob2> phillambrechts: yes
[11:22] <bob2> Janbanan: you need to be a lot more specific
[11:22] <bob2> synapsis_: when installing?
[11:22] <Corin> bob2, after adding user, how can i give that user access to /var/www/folder1/ ?
[11:22] <Janbanan> one sec
[11:22] <phillambrechts> bob2, why am I not getting sound from application launches, etc?
[11:22] <bob2> Corin: change their homedirectory
[11:22] <Xyc0> Janbanan: dont ask to ask dude, just shoot away
[11:23] <Corin> how?
[11:23] <synapsis_> bobslaede: yep, i burned the iso, put it into the drive, was following along, and it says that the cd's basically corrupt because none of the files are working
[11:23] <bob2> Corin: I guess editing /etc/passwd, very very carefully
[11:23] <synapsis_> bob2 sorry
[11:23] <dreadnought> bob2 the wiki doesnt work for me for some reason i do it all the way and it just doesnt work
[11:23] <bob2> synapsis_: did you check if the cd was corrupt?
[11:23] <bob2> dreadnought: that's ot a useful description of the problem
[11:24] <synapsis_> bob2 how can i cehck
[11:24] <bob2> synapsis_: boot into expert mode, run 'verify cd' from the menu
[11:24] <Corin> bob2, at the moment the user i created says this:
[11:24] <Xyc0> wow this is way to confusing for my lazy mind, im installing ubuntu and windows simultanioulsy
[11:24] <jals-> is apt ubuntu's version of fedora's yum
[11:24] <jals-> ?
[11:24] <dragoonz> Can someone help me get my laptop's NIC card working?
[11:24] <synapsis_> bob2: i have nothing to boot to, thats the problem.
[11:24] <Corin> sam:x:1001:1001:Sam,,,:/home/sam:/bin/bash
[11:24] <Corin> ?
[11:25] <jals-> in fact, could someone point me to a ubuntu faq type thing to get started?
[11:25] <Xyc0> jals-: um.... yes.... sorta
[11:25] <dreadnought> ok im at http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#enable and im all the way down to enable and configure could u look at it
[11:25] <Janbanan> hehe found the problem with the sata disk
[11:25] <Xyc0> jals-: yea, ubuntu.com has a link for it
[11:25] <Dez[debian] > im enjoying ubuntu so far :)
[11:25] <jals-> alrighty, thanks
[11:25] <Xyc0> jals-: wiki.ubuntu.com has a few new user pages too
[11:25] <Corin> bob2?
[11:25] <Xyc0> Corin: give him some time
[11:25] <bob2> Corin: ?
[11:26] <dreadnought> be patient hes help in alot of people
[11:26] <bob2> synapsis_: you can't boot the install cd?
[11:26] <Corin> do i change "/home/sam" to "/var/www/"?
[11:26] <Corin> it says:
[11:26] <Corin> sam:x:1001:1001:Sam,,,:/home/sam:/bin/bash
[11:26] <bob2> jals-: yum is more or less a clone of apt
[11:26] <bob2> Corin: yes
[11:26] <bob2> Corin: except to /var/www/whatever/
[11:26] <synapsis_> bob2: i can boot it, however i'm left iwt hthe option "type server, or press enter"
[11:26] <Corin> ok
[11:26] <bob2> synapsis_: type expert
[11:26] <dreadnought> u see it now bob2?
[11:26] <Xyc0> jals-: yumx is a straight clone of synaptic
[11:26] <bob2> dreadnought: so
[11:26] <Corin> ok, bob2, done that
[11:26] <dreadnought> what?
[11:27] <Dez[debian] > every time i go to Play a Mp3 file i get there were no decorders found to hadnle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[11:27] <bob2> dreadnought: I'm pretty sure I told you to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[11:27] <Corin> now, how can that user connect to /var/www/sam/ using ftp?
[11:27] <bob2> dreadnought: are you not using i386?
[11:27] <cfa> bob2 it is installed the .inf file but nothing, i did ndiswrapper -l and got this "net5211 invalid driver!", this was the driver i got from my windows partition
[11:27] <bob2> Corin: yes
[11:27] <bob2> Dez[debian] : wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:27] <Aven> how do I specify a compiler when compiling?
[11:27] <bob2> cfa: is it the .inf file
[11:27] <Corin> bob2, it was "how", not "can" :P
[11:28] <dreadnought> i cant just do it at javas site? bob2
[11:28] <bob2> Aven: what are you trying to do?
[11:28] <Xyc0> synapsis_: yea, what kind of processor are you using?
[11:28] <bob2> dreadnought: this is why you have been stuck for weeks
[11:28] <Aven> compile
[11:28] <Aven> a software
[11:28] <bob2> Corin: they connect using an ftp client
[11:28] <bob2> Aven: and the software is...
[11:28] <Corin> ok
[11:28] <Aven> it uses 'gcc 4' but I want to point it to gcc 3
[11:28] <synapsis_> xyc0: intel p4?
[11:28] <Aven> magick irc services
[11:28] <dreadnought> bob2: it just wont work and noone knows whats wrong with it
[11:29] <Xyc0> synapsis_: what architect of ubuntu did you download to install? i386, x86_64?
[11:29] <synapsis_> i386 i believe
[11:29] <Aven> I remember it being 'export=' or something
[11:29] <bob2> dreadnought: holy god
[11:29] <Aven> anyone know?
[11:29] <cfa> bob2 i believe so i will restart in win and check, thanx for help, bbl
[11:29] <synapsis_> integrety test failed
[11:29] <bob2> Aven: export CC=gcc-3.4, may work
[11:30] <bob2> Aven: it's software-specific, tho, which is why you need to mention exactly what you're trying to do in your initial questions
[11:30] <Dez[debian] > !universe
[11:30] <ubotu> it has been said that repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[11:30] <bob2> dreadnought: so, stop talking
[11:30] <bob2> dreadnought: go follow exactly what the page I pointed you at said
[11:30] <bob2> dreadnought: assuming you are using an i386 cpu, which you did not yet confirm
[11:30] <Xyc0> bob2: he said p4
[11:30] <synapsis_> xyc0: yeah its i386.
[11:30] <Corin> bob2, it wont let me connect from a different pc...
[11:30] <_Twitch> hey guys, im having a problem with my hoary hedgehog installation. Gnome will fire up, and it will either freeze at the login screen or right after when the splash screen displays. Anyone have any ideas as to what might me wrong? I have the i386 installation.
[11:30] <Aven> bob2: when I run the 'make' command, it uses gcc 4
[11:30] <Corin> oh wait, it will
[11:30] <Corin> :D
[11:31] <Corin> but, bob2, it allows him access to the entire pc...
[11:31] <dreadnought> bob2: how am i supposed to know!
[11:31] <Aven> ah, works now :)
[11:31] <synapsis_> integrety test failed - "the .pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-image-2.6.12-9-386_2.6.12-9.23_i386.deb file failed the MD5 checksum verification. Your CD-ROM or this file may have been corrupted"
[11:31] <synapsis_> what now
[11:32] <Dez[debian] > !howtoaddmultiverse
[11:32] <ubotu> Dez[debian] : I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:32] <gnomefreak> _Twitch, one word breezy :)
[11:32] <dreadnought> bob2 no i need JRE
[11:32] <dreadnought> not JDK
[11:32] <_Twitch> LOL
[11:32] <_Twitch> i have no way of getting breezy any time soon. :(
[11:32] <Xyc0> synapsis_: download ubuntu i386 install for 5.10 from ubuntu.com
[11:32] <synapsis_> xyc0: thats the one i downloaded.
[11:32] <dragoonz> Can someone help me get my laptop's NIC card working?
[11:32] <bob2> Xyc0: ah
[11:32] <bob2> dreadnought: dude, stop
[11:32] <Xyc0> Dez[debian] : look for repository on wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:33] <bob2> dreadnought: be quiet
[11:33] <bob2> dreadnought: then read that page again
[11:33] <Corin> bob2?
[11:33] <bob2> Aven: yes, it's software specific
[11:33] <bob2> Aven: you may need to hack the Makefile
[11:33] <Xyc0> synapsis_: yea, well that download is corrupted
[11:33] <dreadnought> bob2: unfortunatly for u i need JRE
[11:33] <bob2> Aven: simplest would be talking to the author
[11:33] <bob2> dreadnought: stop talking
[11:33] <gnomefreak> _Twitch, how much ram do you have?
[11:33] <bob2> dreadnought: 'In BreezyBadger, Java is also available as the Blackdown j2re1.4 and Blackdown j2se1.4 packages in the multiverse repository.'
[11:33] <_Twitch> gnomefreak: a gig.
[11:33] <synapsis_> xyc0: well whats to be done then if the offical site offers a corrupt copy?
[11:33] <HrdwrBoB> dreadnought: unfortunately for you, you can't type
[11:33] <gnomefreak> synapsis_, the error is froma bad download or bad burn
[11:34] <dreadnought> thanks
[11:34] <Xyc0> synapsis_: the download is corrupted, it probubly just cut off partway through
[11:34] <gnomefreak> _Twitch, im not sure than sorry :(
[11:34] <bob2> Corin: ?
[11:34] <bob2> Corin: yes
[11:34] <_Twitch> thanks, gnomefreak :)
[11:34] <dreadnought> I HAVE HOARY!!! god
[11:34] <Janbanan> I have a problem to restart X-server. When i press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace it turns off but my screen also turnes off so I'm not able to see anything
[11:34] <bob2> Corin: if you don't want them accessing things in other people's homedirs, change the permissions
[11:34] <Corin> ok...
[11:34] <Corin> how?
[11:34] <gnomefreak> _Twitch, yw
[11:34] <Corin> at the moment, he can access everything
[11:35] <synapsis_> xyc0: is there a way i can verify what i've downloaded, rather than downloading again, burning another iso to cd, and then getting caught in the same cycle?
[11:35] <bob2> Corin: look at the permissions of the other homedirs in /var/www/
[11:35] <bob2> Corin: bear in mind ftp is inherently asking for trouble
[11:35] <lightbright> once a person does a fresh install of breezy, do they update it and upgrade same as Debian?  apt-get update and apt-get upgrade ?
[11:35] <bob2> dreadnought: bah
[11:35] <gnomefreak> synapsis_, what are you using now for an os?
[11:35] <bob2> lightbright: yes
[11:35] <Xyc0> synapsis_: you said the MP5 test failed, that verifyed that your download is corrupted
[11:36] <synapsis_> Xyc0: k, thanks =)
[11:36] <lightbright> once a person does a fresh install of breezy, what other steps should they do besides  apt-get update and apt-get upgrade ?
[11:36] <Xyc0> synapsis_: sorry, not sure what you were asking
[11:36] <dreadnought> bah 4 wat
[11:36] <lightbright> bob2: ?
[11:36] <bob2> lightbright: ?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> add universe repo
[11:36] <lightbright> bob2: once a person does a fresh install of breezy, what other steps should they do besides  apt-get update and apt-get upgrade ?
[11:36] <Corin> and is it possible to log into root with ftp?
[11:36] <silversurfer> hey bob
[11:36] <gnomefreak> synapsis_,  what OS are you using?
[11:36] <silversurfer> since I tryed to open a new x server
[11:36] <Janbanan> Is it possible to run winamp in ubuntu?
[11:36] <bob2> lightbright: none.
[11:36] <synapsis_> gnomefreak: none now
[11:37] <silversurfer> I can't log anymore
[11:37] <szaz> Can anyone explain how to boot into recovery mode? GRUB doesn't normally appear when I reboot
[11:37] <bob2> Corin: if you do that, I will beat you
[11:37] <silversurfer> with entrance
[11:37] <bob2> Corin: (no)
[11:37] <Xyc0> lightbright: that should be good untill you want to install more programs then what ubuntu comes with
[11:37] <bob2> Janbanan: probably under wine, but why bother
[11:37] <synapsis_> what a waste
[11:37] <gnomefreak> synapsis_,  define none
[11:37] <lightbright> bob2: ok thanks. And does breezy come on 1 CD?
[11:37] <Corin> lol
[11:37] <dreadnought> omg  bob2 just can u please tell me where mozilla is located!
[11:37] <bob2> szaz: hit escape over and over
[11:37] <Dez[debian] > so i cant play mp3 files unless i pay .75c?
[11:37] <lightbright> Xyc0: ok
[11:37] <bob2> lightbright: yes
[11:37] <bob2> dreadnought: holy god
[11:37] <gnomefreak> lightbright, yes 1 cd
[11:37] <synapsis_> gnomefreak: none = error loading operating system
[11:37] <bob2> dreadnought: /usr/lib/mozilla/
[11:37] <szaz> bob2: at boot?
[11:37] <dreadnought> bob2 i no
[11:37] <gnomefreak> synapsis_,  how are you online?
[11:37] <Dez[debian] > nvm lol.
[11:37] <Corin> ok, then, in command-line, how can i change permissions so that user "sam" can only access /var/www/sam/ ?
[11:37] <synapsis_> gnomefreak: i'm using another comp
[11:37] <dreadnought> bob2 now was that so hard?
[11:38] <gnomefreak> what os is on it?
[11:38] <szaz> bob2: I booted from the liveCD but I can't find /etc/groups to edit
[11:38] <bob2> szaz: yes, immediately after the bios
[11:38] <lightbright> is breezy good to give to friends who have only ever used ms windows?  will they be able to install breezy by themselves and get conntected to internet using modem etc ?
[11:38] <szaz> bob2: cheers again!
[11:38] <Xyc0> lightbright: you also might want to install your video card drivers if you have ATI or nVidia
[11:38] <bob2> Corin: sudo chmod go= /var/www/sam/
[11:38] <gnomefreak> lightbright, cant tell you thaqt dont know how pc litterate they are
[11:38] <lightbright> Xyc0: how do you install drivers for ATI or nVidia?
[11:38] <ReleaseX> ls
[11:38] <ReleaseX> ls
[11:38] <lightbright> gnomefreak: lets say average user
[11:38] <djk_> lightbright: if they can think and read, they should succeed.
[11:38] <bob2> Corin: I'm not going to help you anymore, sorry; I don't have time to help you do this securely.
[11:38] <Xyc0> lightbright: yes, i dout youd hear otherwise here tho
[11:38] <Corin> i dont need it very secure bob
[11:39] <Corin> bob2, ok, and then
[11:39] <Corin> it then says
[11:39] <Corin> >
[11:39] <synapsis_> thanks to everyone who helped. you'll see me back in a few hours, hopefully next time it won't be a corrupted file. cuz if it is, i won't have anything nice to say
[11:39] <Xyc0> lightbright: what video card are you using, either one the how to can be found at wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:39] <gnomefreak> lightbright, it pretty much walks you threw the install depending on if that is the only hard drive and that is gonna be only operating system
[11:39] <lightbright> dpes breezy contain the latest security pathes etc, safe to use for internet banking etc?  Latest firefox etc?
[11:39] <Fred|Fr3d> hey... i keep getting "No sensors found" from lm-sensors... i followed the quickstart guide and did the detect thing... any ideas?
[11:39] <everton> Hi, I have re-installed Ubuntu to upgrade to breezy. I copied my /home to a partition hda7 e installed the system on hda9. How do I mount the old /home partition?
[11:39] <Xyc0> synapsis_: dont quit, no mater what you do
[11:40] <gnomefreak> guess he really didnt wanna know how to tell b4 burning it if its bad :(
[11:40] <dragoonz> how do I use "make" if it says command is not found
[11:40] <everton> e -> and *
[11:40] <Corin> bob2, very quickly please
[11:40] <weob> /usr/bin/wine: could not locate Wine source tree
[11:40] <weob>  - anyone know what that means?
[11:40] <synapsis_> Xyc0: just a pain
[11:40] <lightbright> Xyc0: does breezy contain the latest security pathes etc, safe to use for internet banking etc?  Latest firefox etc?
[11:40] <bob2> dragoonz: install it...
[11:40] <dragoonz> uh?
[11:40] <bob2> weob: why did you install wine from source?
[11:40] <weob> yest latest firefox
[11:40] <bob2> dragoonz: install build-essential
[11:40] <weob> because its 0.9
[11:40] <bob2> lightbright: yes...
[11:40] <lightbright> bob2: do you use Debian or Unbuntu?
[11:40] <bob2> weob: that's no reason to install it to /usr/
[11:40] <Xyc0> lightbright: yes, when updates come out online, you will be notified and asked if you want to install them
[11:40] <veloct> lightbright: it contains 1.0.7
[11:40] <bob2> lightbright: both
[11:40] <alpha> can someone send me a multiverse repository server or a list of them
[11:40] <gnomefreak> lightbright,  i cant tell you about the security if the banking website but there are many firewalls for linux
[11:40] <cameron> lightbright: i feel that its safer than MS
[11:41] <Corin> bob2, please?
[11:41] <bob2> lightbright: ubuntu has a similar security system to debian
[11:41] <bob2> alpha: read your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:41] <weob> then where should it be?
[11:41] <bob2> lightbright: ie fixes for security issues get backported to the stable release
[11:41] <bob2> weob: /usr/local/wine/
[11:41] <weob> ok
[11:41] <holycow> i not googling much info on qt7 support on linux ... anyone know what the score on this currently?
[11:41] <lightbright> Xyc0: so if you type apt-get update each day, you will make sure its got the latest updates etc?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> 21-5 away winning
[11:42] <veloct> holycow: you mean quicktime?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:42] <bob2> holycow: mplayer
[11:42] <Dez[debian] > is Wine installed by default?
[11:42] <holycow> no
[11:42] <bob2> holycow: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:42] <bob2> Dez[debian] : no
[11:42] <gnomefreak> no Dez[debian] 
[11:42] <holycow> i meant quicktime 7
[11:42] <holycow> as in not quicktime 6
[11:42] <lightbright> gnomefreak: does breezy come with a firewall such as firestarter?
[11:42] <bob2> lightbright: no
[11:42] <holycow> as in quicktime 7 support
[11:42] <holycow> >_>
[11:42] <gnomefreak> yes in synaptic
[11:42] <Xyc0> lightbright: no, there is an applet in gnome that will do it for you
[11:42] <weob> ine: cannot determine executable type for L"H:\\arial32.exe" now i got this
[11:42] <lightbright> Xyc0:  ok
[11:42] <holycow> bob2, that is a #debian answer, your slipping back to your old wasy friend
[11:43] <gnomefreak> or apt-get install firestarter
[11:43] <holycow> :)
[11:43] <bob2> weob: why would you run a font file?
[11:43] <lightbright> cool thanks :)
[11:43] <Corin> bob2? i did sudo chmod go= /var/www/sam/
[11:43] <bob2> holycow: ?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:43] <Xyc0> np
[11:43] <Corin> it now says ">" on a new line...?
[11:43] <weob> because that's a part of the wine tools install that doesnt work
[11:43] <bob2> lightbright: ubuntu, like sarge, has no listening network services by default
[11:43] <holycow> so, speaking of quicktime 7 anyone know if there is any work being done on that, who might be working on that, etc?
[11:43] <bob2> holycow: mplayer can play it.
[11:43] <holycow> qt7?
[11:43] <holycow> weird
[11:43] <weob> qt7 dont work
[11:43] <alpha> bob2: i need to add one to it
[11:43] <weob> cuz its bundled with itunes
[11:43] <weob> and itunes doesnt install right now
[11:43] <holycow> i will check it, but that doesn't sound right
[11:43] <shad0w1e> is there any way to get KDE to recognize the fact that I'm using a xinerama display, instead of one large screen ??
[11:44] <bob2> shad0w1e: perhaps #debian-kde
[11:44] <holycow> weob, thankfully no it doesn't install
[11:44] <holycow> EVER
[11:44] <shad0w1e> because my windows keep popping up halfway on each screen
[11:44] <weob> lol
[11:44] <alpha> bob2: for some reason the default ones in synaptic wont work
[11:44] <bob2> alpha: you need to read it
[11:44] <shad0w1e> bob2, thanks
[11:44] <Corin> bob2, please!
[11:45] <bob2> synapsis_: please turn that off
[11:45] <gnomefreak> i never learned how to turn them on :)
[11:45] <alpha> bob2, it doesn't have a list that i can see just a list of ones put in from install
[11:45] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:45] <laxise> hi everyone. i got a question. i installed ubuntu breezy badger on my pc and after the first boot up i get only some weird screen built by many stripes but no login?! i can boot up into text mode but  Xwindows doesnt work. How to fix that?
[11:46] <alpha> bob2, the server for multivers seems to be down
[11:46] <bob2> alpha: please read it, it explains preciesly how to enable multiverse
[11:46] <gnomefreak> laxise, re configure your x windows file
[11:46] <omeg> Wooh
[11:46] <bob2> alpha: no, the server for multiverse is the as the server for evetyhing tlse
[11:46] <holycow> no shit, mplayer can do qt7
[11:46] <holycow> wow
[11:46] <holycow> thx bob2 :)
[11:46] <bob2> please don't be a smartarse when I'm right ;)
[11:46] <alpha> bob2, i get a 404 error when i enable it
[11:46] <omeg> I finally contributed to the open source community today by fully translating gnome-volume-manager of dapper to Dutch completely.
[11:47] <Dez[debian] > anyone know a good place for X-Chat plugins
[11:47] <bob2> alpha: then show us your /etc/apt/sources.list in #flood
[11:47] <bob2> omeg: yay!
[11:47] <dseomn> when I try to reply to an html mailin evolution, the input is reversed (i.e. when I type "asdf" I see "fdsa"). I have evo set to always use plain text in outgoing mail
[11:47] <veloct> Dez: xchat's home page
[11:47] <laxise> gnomefreak  im not really advanced in that way. how to reconfigure my x windows file?
[11:47] <dseomn> I'm using dapper btw
[11:47] <omeg> That is, if they're accepted. But I'm well-known with my language, so they probably will. Hmm, too bad there's no section in which I can drop comments about (common) mistakes they made, just so they won't see the correct versions as faulty ones.
[11:47] <gnomefreak> bob2, whats the xorg config command
[11:48] <Xyc0> omeg: you dutch?
[11:48] <dseomn> gnomefreak: dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[11:48] <bob2> gnomefreak: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[11:48] <gnomefreak> there you go laxise
[11:48] <alpha> bob2, done
[11:48] <bob2> omeg: is there a dutch translation team? or a netherlands loco team?
[11:48] <gnomefreak> ty guys
[11:48] <dseomn> bob2: xorg, not xfree86
[11:49] <laxise> ok
[11:49] <laxise> thx gnomefreak
[11:50] <kbrooks> dseomn: depends
[11:50] <kbrooks> dseomn: warty uses xfree86
[11:50] <alpha> bob2, did you see my paste into flood
[11:50] <gnomefreak> all depends on the moniter and the vc what one you are using
[11:50] <dseomn> kbrooks: people still use warty? wow
[11:50] <Fred> i keep getting "No sensors found" from lm-sensors... i followed the quickstart guide and did the detect thing... and it did find sensors in that, and i have added the lines to /etc/modules, and they seem to be loaded... any ideas?
[11:50] <kbrooks> dseomn: it's old, i know. :)
[11:50] <gnomefreak> i wanna say its the age of the hardware that makes the difference between xfree and xorg
[11:51] <corey> hey
[11:51] <corey> hello
[11:51] <dseomn> hi
[11:51] <corey> wut is this
[11:51] <lightbright> once breezy is installed, whats procedure to get the internet working with a modem?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> what*
[11:51] <corey> is this like a chat
[11:52] <szaz> bob2: Thanks - recovery mode solved my first problem
[11:52] <gnomefreak> cable dsl or dial up?
[11:52] <corey> i saw this in my menu
[11:52] <dseomn> corey: yes, for support with ubuntu
[11:52] <dreadnought> how do you do this im too dumb to di it                 # Go to the plugins sub-directory under the Mozilla installation directory
[11:52] <dreadnought> cd <Mozilla installation directory>/plugins
[11:52] <dreadnought> # In the current directory, create a symbolic link to the JRE ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so file Type:
[11:52] <dreadnought> ln -s <JRE installation directory>/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[11:52] <omeg> bob2 omeg: is there a dutch translation team? or a netherlands loco team? <-- I'm not sure. I just checked out a page where I could translate and then went past all the boxes.
[11:52] <NoobieDoobieDo> Hi corey , this is Internet Relay Chat.
[11:52] <gnomefreak> dreadnought,  dont paste in here
[11:52] <lightbright> Xyc0 lightbright: no, there is an applet in gnome that will do it for you <--- does this listen by itself all the time?
[11:52] <corey> what do i do with it
[11:52] <Kovecses> in ubuntu my computers "thinking" light stays on always? is there a w
[11:52] <omeg> And yes, I'm Dutch. I don't know anybody who's well-learnt in Dutch without being Dutch himself, actually. It's not a very popular language to learn.
[11:52] <szaz> bob2: When you installed TurboGears, did you install anything else other than python2.4-dev?
[11:52] <Kovecses> to fix
[11:52] <dreadnought> ok i wont if i get told how to do it
[11:52] <dseomn> corey: ask for ubuntu-related help if you need it
[11:52] <Xyc0> lightbright: yea, you should have seen it when you first booted ubuntu
[11:52] <gnomefreak> pasting in here will not get you an answer
[11:52] <lightbright> Xyc0: what about KDE?
[11:53] <lightbright> Xyc0: does breezy come with KDE?
[11:53] <dreadnought> how do u now i pasted
[11:53] <gnomefreak> lightbright, gnome
[11:53] <Kovecses> lightbright, gnome.... but kde isnt hard to add
[11:53] <gnomefreak> type /topic and read it
[11:53] <lightbright> gnomefreak: you telling me there is no KDE?
[11:53] <Xyc0> Xyc0: it usualy comew with gnome, but you can put KDE on if youd like
[11:53] <veloct> lightbright: just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:53] <lightbright> Kovecses: ok
[11:53] <blank> hey guys, I'm so glad to be able to come back :)
[11:53] <dreadnought> can some one help me with it
[11:53] <lightbright> veloct: ok
[11:53] <bob2> dseomn: duh me, right
[11:53] <bob2> alpha: ok
[11:53] <Kovecses> lightbright, or you could download kubuntu wich has kde by default
[11:53] <Xyc0> lightbright: I like gnome tho, very straight forward
[11:53] <bob2> szaz: I don't recall
[11:54] <bob2> szaz: what error do you get?
[11:54] <lightbright> Xyc0: ok
[11:54] <tenzin_> hi, what is the best "Font-installer" for GNOME?
[11:54] <lightbright> Kovecses: ok
[11:54] <gnomefreak> there is kde but default is gnome
[11:54] <szaz> bob2: The install procedure just worked?
[11:54] <szaz> bob2: oh... hang on
[11:54] <bob2> alpha: add the word multiverse to the end of the 'deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe' line
[11:54] <gnomefreak> dreadnought, paste it in pastebin and give us the link
[11:54] <bob2> tenzin_: dragging them to the fonts:/// url in nautilus
[11:54] <Kovecses> in ubuntu my computers "thinking" light stays on always? is there a way to fix?
[11:55] <tenzin_> bob2: hmm...I test this
[11:55] <bob2> Kovecses: thinking = hard disk activity?
[11:55] <Kovecses> bob2, yes
[11:55] <dseomn> Kovecses: how much ram do you have?
[11:55] <gnomefreak> the "thinking light" as you put it is the hard drive spinning if im thinking of the same light
[11:56] <Kovecses> dseomn, pleny... 2 gigs ..... it is a software issue
[11:56] <gnomefreak> Kovecses, are you sure?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> software i mean
[11:56] <Kovecses> gnomefreak, positive
[11:56] <Kovecses> i dual boot multiple distros
[11:56] <Kovecses> ubuntu is the only one that does it
[11:57] <gnomefreak> dual boot =2
[11:57] <dseomn> Kovecses: use Applications > System Tools > Ubuntu Device Database and put the problem in the comments
[11:57] <Xyc0> I have two boots, they are black and they come untied alot
[11:57] <Kovecses> and i read some forums and others have the same problem
[11:57] <Kovecses> gnomefreak, yes dual boot = 2
[11:57] <misfit_toy> Xyc0, your boots have laces? in Texas we have no laces on our boots. ;p
[11:57] <Kovecses> gnomefreak, dont know why i said that
[11:58] <Kovecses> gnomefreak, i triple boot to be correct
[11:58] <alpha> bob2, it still wont work
[11:58] <Xyc0> misfit_toy: yup, they are the rompumstompum boots
[11:58] <bob2> alpha: you need to ru nthat command everytime you edit that file
[11:58] <eternale1> in the wiki for BreezyUpgradeNotes , it says to change your repositories to look for Breezy thru the Synaptic Package Manager , it looks like its showing a file but which file is it to edit or thru what menu in the manager?
[11:58] <misfit_toy> Xyc0, heh
[11:58] <gnomefreak> Kovecses, how many of the 3 are linux?
[11:58] <bob2> eternale1: the repositories menu option
[11:58] <Kovecses> gnomefreak, 2
[11:59] <pavelich> u fucking hate the world man, got my stereo stolen today and i dont know how to run C++ source code in any program in linux
[11:59] <szaz> bob2: I get hundreds of lines of warnings and errors - I've pasted the last sreen from the terminal in flood
[11:59] <dreadnought> is some o
[11:59] <pavelich> i meant i hate the world
[11:59] <eternale1> bob2:  thru +Add?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> pavelich,  please no cursing this is a family chat
[11:59] <misfit_toy> pavelich, it's ok, I hate the world too
[11:59] <Xyc0> Kovecses: do you hear your harddrive straining?  Is it hurting something?
[11:59] <dreadnought> is someone willingf to help me now
[11:59] <Kovecses> pavelich, c++.... are you trying to
[11:59] <omeg> Hmm...
[11:59] <bob2> dreadnought: again, you need to give details
[11:59] <switchcat> Greetings, is anybody here familiar with the ubuntu Net Install options?
[11:59] <Kovecses> Xyc0, no the hard disk is silent
[11:59] <omeg> Not having MP3 support is okay, but my browser window freezing upon encountering an embedded MP3 file, that's not so good.
[11:59] <alpha> bob2, thanks
[11:59] <gnomefreak> C++ i find alot like C
[11:59] <omeg> Just a temporary freeze, but still.
[12:00] <Xyc0> Kovecses: i would worry about it then
[12:00] <bob2> omeg: please do report it
[12:00] <pavelich> kovecses: i have eclipse and anjuta and i dont know how to work either
[12:00] <urbanfox|away> blech, doing a server install, and the "Starting up the partitioner" step hung at 55%