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| KabelKasper | mornfall: The cleanest package manager GUI i have ever seen is Xandros Networks | 12:32 |
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| KabelKasper | http://www.xandros.com/images/screenshots/v3/xandros_networks1.png | 12:32 |
| KabelKasper | http://www.xandros.com/images/screenshots/v3/xandros_networks2.png | 12:32 |
| KabelKasper | \sh_away: Will the RepositoryDialog be a guidance aplication? | 12:34 |
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| spstarr_home | Riddell: is there a python2.4-sip4-kde3 package coming? | 12:42 |
| Riddell | spstarr_home: there's a sip package and a python-kde3 package | 12:46 |
| spstarr_home | its missing the .api files though? | 12:47 |
| Riddell | python-kde3-dev ? | 12:47 |
| === spstarr_home examines that | ||
| Riddell | has the .sip files, what's a .api file? | 12:47 |
| spstarr_home | oh that has the .sip file | 12:48 |
| spstarr_home | there's a python2.4-sip4-qt3 | 12:48 |
| spstarr_home | ok that explains what I was missing | 12:48 |
| spstarr_home | .api files are generated by eric3 | 12:50 |
| spstarr_home | via sip | 12:50 |
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| mdke | Riddell, around? | 12:53 |
| Riddell | mdke: hi | 12:54 |
| mdke | wow midnight on a sunday, what service :) | 12:54 |
| spstarr_home | thanks, now i have a complete KDE Python development environment | 12:54 |
| mdke | Riddell, re: the kubuntu docs on help.u.c: i've put them up, just wanted to clarify something. | 12:54 |
| Riddell | spstarr_home: what are the .sip files needed for? | 12:55 |
| mdke | Riddell, i made some web targets with local stylesheets, are these ok? | 12:55 |
| mdke | they are kde-default.css | 12:55 |
| spstarr_home | Riddell, to generate code completion .api files for when specifying functions or variables | 12:56 |
| Riddell | mdke: local as in file:/ ?> | 12:56 |
| Riddell | s/>// | 12:56 |
| mdke | no, sorry | 12:56 |
| mdke | i'll show you | 12:56 |
| mdke | Riddell, http://help.ubuntu.com/kde/kquickguide/C/index.html | 12:56 |
| Riddell | mdke: looks fine | 12:57 |
| mdke | good | 12:57 |
| Riddell | mdke: why wouldn't they be? | 12:57 |
| mdke | Riddell, just in case I'd taken the wrong .css file or something | 12:57 |
| mdke | Riddell, i've made separate Makefile targets for building with that css | 12:57 |
| mdke | ending in -web | 12:58 |
| Riddell | good idea | 12:58 |
| mdke | okies | 12:58 |
| mdke | will you point the links at those files? | 12:59 |
| Riddell | yep | 12:59 |
| mdke | great, thanks | 12:59 |
| mdke | no kubuntu header on the pages sadly, but we can work on that | 12:59 |
| Riddell | yes, I'll get round to that soonish | 12:59 |
| Riddell | once kde 3.5 rc1 is done | 12:59 |
| mdke | i'd like to find a way, for kubuntu and ubuntu docs, to generate headers on the page automatically from the xsl, I'm sure it's possible | 01:00 |
| mdke | i'll look around | 01:00 |
| Riddell | why shouldn't it be? | 01:01 |
| mdke | it should | 01:01 |
| mdke | i just need to learn how | 01:01 |
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| spstarr_home | hrm, PyKDE tutorials are way out of date :( | 02:11 |
| spstarr_home | KTMainWindow is nonexistant | 02:12 |
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| Diablo-D3 | anyone having problems with kdesktop segfaulting? | 10:05 |
| Tm_T | version? | 10:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | dapper. | 10:05 |
| Tm_T | I mean KDE version | 10:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | 3.4.3-0ubuntu4 | 10:06 |
| Tm_T | ah | 10:06 |
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| Diablo-D3 | Im pretty sure its related to the libarts bullshit thats been going on | 10:07 |
| Tm_T | :/ | 10:07 |
| Tm_T | I don't use arts, for reason | 10:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | #4 0xb69debae in __gnu_cxx::__pool<true>::_M_reclaim_block () | 10:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 | 10:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | #5 0xb651afbc in __gnu_cxx::__mt_alloc<Arts::ParamDef, __gnu_cxx::__common_pool_policy<__gnu_cxx::__pool, true> >::deallocate () from /usr/lib/libartskde.so.1 | 10:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | #6 0xb5fcec5c in Arts::readTypeSeq<Arts::MethodDef> () | 10:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | from /usr/lib/libmcop.so.1 | 10:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt really matter | 10:07 |
| Tm_T | I do my best to avoid it | 10:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | kdesktop is still linked to it, and tries to use it | 10:08 |
| Tm_T | yup | 10:08 |
| Tm_T | even if soundsystem is disabled? | 10:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | yup | 10:08 |
| Tm_T | humm | 10:08 |
| Tm_T | great | 10:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | I've seen similar tracebacks for other things | 10:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | in bugzilla I mean | 10:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | (on bugzilla?) | 10:09 |
| Tm_T | in | 10:09 |
| Tm_T | imo | 10:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im not sure why this hasnt been noticed before | 10:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | the lack of kdesktop functioning would be pretty noticable | 10:10 |
| Tonio_ | hi everyone | 10:10 |
| Tm_T | hullo Tonio_ | 10:11 |
| Tonio_ | hi Tm_T | 10:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | what sucks is reverting to breezy's kdesktop and libarts1c2 doesnt help | 10:14 |
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| Tm_T | Diablo-D3: I installed rc1, no problem, I moved to dapper, no problem | 10:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | Tm_T: wtf. | 10:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wonder whats causing that then. | 10:18 |
| Tm_T | well, never used 3.4.3 afaik | 10:19 |
| Tm_T | so if it's there, I don't know | 10:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, but Im using the newest packages. | 10:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | so if you're using the newest packages, and I'm using the newest pakcages, then theres a problem. | 10:19 |
| Tm_T | humm, can you try rc1 ? | 10:21 |
| Tm_T | (not sure does it install properly to dapper though) | 10:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, I cant try rc1 | 10:21 |
| === Diablo-D3 has no other machines to install on | ||
| Tm_T | hmh | 10:22 |
| Tm_T | then use it, don't just try ;) | 10:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | hah | 10:22 |
| === Diablo-D3 has a working dapper install thankyouverymuch | ||
| Tm_T | I don't have other machines to test either | 10:23 |
| Tm_T | I just install new stuff and fortunately most of the timee all works fine | 10:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | what version of kdesktop do you have installed? | 10:24 |
| Tm_T | I'm not home now, but I hope it's still rc1 | 10:25 |
| === Diablo-D3 tries building kdebase | ||
| Diablo-D3 | wtf. | 10:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | Tm_T: something isnt right here | 10:30 |
| Tm_T | ah | 10:30 |
| Tm_T | you have borked your own box? | 10:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | why does dapper have 3.5-rc1 for source | 10:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | and not for packages? | 10:30 |
| Tm_T | dunno | 10:30 |
| === Diablo-D3 is quite confused now. | ||
| Tm_T | if there's no packages, make some ;) | 10:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, thats what I'm doing atm | 10:31 |
| Tm_T | :) | 10:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | though, I obviously can't upload them to dapper =P | 10:31 |
| Verwilst | it's because the gcc transition that's going to happen this week | 10:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | lets see how long kdebase takes to compile on my sempron 2600+ | 10:33 |
| Tm_T | Verwilst: please tell more | 10:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, spit it out | 10:34 |
| Verwilst | libstdc++ will be upgraded iirc | 10:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | oh god, again? | 10:34 |
| Verwilst | which will mean rebuilding lots of dapper pkgs | 10:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | didnt we just go through one of these? | 10:34 |
| Verwilst | that was gcc4.0 transition :p | 10:35 |
| Verwilst | this will happen this week normally | 10:35 |
| Tm_T | Verwilst: something to do with this? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/427962 | 10:35 |
| === Diablo-D3 will have to rebuild kdelibs. | ||
| Diablo-D3 | and hopefully nothing else. | 10:36 |
| Verwilst | Tm_T, no idea :) | 10:39 |
| Tm_T | Verwilst: that was with gcc4, gcc3.4(?) compiled it fine | 10:39 |
| === Diablo-D3 will have to build arts. | ||
| Tm_T | hah | 10:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | so, arts, kdelibs, and kdebase. | 10:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | what a pain in the ass. | 10:41 |
| Tm_T | yes I am | 10:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | er, that cant be right | 10:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | g++-3.4 is a build dep of arts. | 10:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | that means... | 10:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | um | 10:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | wtf? | 10:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | that doesnt even make sense | 10:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | why would g++3.4 ever be a build dep of arts? | 10:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | kde is built with 4.0 | 10:43 |
| === Diablo-D3 tries it anyhow =/ | ||
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| Diablo-D3 | I wonder if I could CXX=g++-4.0 apt-get -b source arts | 10:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | nope | 10:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | ugh | 10:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | * Build with GCC 3.4 to prevent segfault | 10:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | thanks jriddel | 10:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | Tm_T: hey | 10:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | if arts is compiled with g++ 3.4, kde cant link with it, right? | 10:52 |
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| Diablo-D3 | AHAH! | 11:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | I found a bug methinks | 11:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | kdelibs requires libarts1-dev >= 1.5.0 | 11:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | but 1.5-rc1-1ubuntu1 apparently doesnt >= 1.5.0 | 11:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | anyone think I should file a bug? | 11:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/4435 | 11:06 |
| === Diablo-D3 builds a copy of kdelibs by force. | ||
| Diablo-D3 | ie, editing the control file | 11:10 |
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| Diablo-D3 | kdelibs is done! | 11:50 |
| === Diablo-D3 now builds kdebase | ||
| Diablo-D3 | soon I will have a working copy of kde 3.5 rc1 as packaged by ubuntu | 12:02 |
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| Diablo-D3 | ahh another bug | 12:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | Xrender.h->render.h | 12:40 |
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| Diablo-D3 | no thats not quite right either | 12:53 |
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| Riddell | Diablo-D3: no need to file a bug | 01:53 |
| Tonio_ | hi Riddell | 01:58 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: FYI, I uploaded on REVU the last version of pwmanager (the package that didn't want to upload for a strange reason)... Maybe this new package will. | 01:58 |
| Tonio_ | also I uploaded an update for kmess, tellico, and a original package for codeine (a media player minimalist, very stable, rocking...) | 01:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | Riddell: well too late =P | 02:00 |
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| jeroenvrp | Riddell: how is rc1 doing? | 03:29 |
| Riddell | jeroenvrp: compiling away nicely thanks :) | 03:31 |
| jeroenvrp | great | 03:31 |
| jeroenvrp | do you have any indication when they will be available? | 03:32 |
| Riddell | new c++ transition has slowed it down but I should have the breezy stuff available in a couple of hours with any luck | 03:32 |
| jeroenvrp | great, so I will be able to update my breezy to 3.5 this evening | 03:32 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: thank you very much for your great work | 03:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | cp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/usr/bin/kfontview': No such file or directory | 03:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | bah | 03:38 |
| === Diablo-D3 fucking gives up | ||
| Riddell | Diablo-D3: what's that? | 03:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | kdebase 3.5 rc1 from dapper | 03:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | I got arts to build fine, and I got kdelibs to build fine | 03:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | but kdebase just fucking shits itself | 03:43 |
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| jjesse | can i just change my sources from breezy to dapper to get a preview of what dapper currently looks like? | 04:19 |
| Riddell | jjesse: you can, it doesn't look much different :) | 04:21 |
| jjesse | install 5, upgrad 417 remove 2 according to adept :) | 04:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | Riddell: so any ideas? | 04:22 |
| Riddell | Diablo-D3: what's the problem? | 04:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | cp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/usr/bin/kfontview': No such file or directory | 04:24 |
| Riddell | when do you get that? | 04:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | at the end | 04:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | its running dh_ commands | 04:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | Riddell: I'm assuming kde in dapper was never meant to be compiled | 04:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | because it doesnt without hacking | 04:26 |
| Riddell | I have kfontview on my kdebase compile | 04:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | blah | 04:27 |
| Riddell | possibly you're missing some buil | 04:27 |
| Riddell | possibly you're missing some build-dep | 04:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | unlikely | 04:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | unless the build-deps are incomplete | 04:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | I only have installed whats required for arts, kdelibs, and kdebase. | 04:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | atleast kdelibs builds with only one alteration | 04:28 |
| Riddell | look through the configure output | 04:28 |
| Riddell | and try running make in ./obj-i486-linux-gnu/kcontrol/kfontinst/viewpart/ | 04:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | (had to change control to allow arts 1.5-current-ubuntu, because it doesnt >= 1.5.0) | 04:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | hrm, where does configure.log end up? | 04:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | er config.log | 04:30 |
| Riddell | in obj-i486-linux-gnu | 04:30 |
| Riddell | see the .build file in .. though | 04:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | heh shoulda known | 04:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | config.log isnt being useful, sadly enough | 04:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | though, something maybe interesting... | 04:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | configure:43370: checking for fontconfig-config | 04:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | configure:43420: result: not found | 04:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | checking for GL fails too | 04:32 |
| Riddell | sounds likely | 04:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | that Xrender.h thing crops up again too | 04:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | so the check for Xft fails. | 04:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | Riddell: for some reason (ask daniels, because I dont get it) Xrender.h is not put in /usr/include/X11/extensions | 04:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | its put in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/extensions, all by itself | 04:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | dun dun duuuun | 04:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | configure:45168: WARNING: Missing Xft headers - disabling font previews! | 04:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | Riddell: hey | 05:09 |
| Riddell | Diablo-D3: hmm? | 05:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | so whats the proper way to fix this Xrender.h bullshit? | 05:09 |
| Riddell | wuh, not sure just yet | 05:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | this does suck, btw | 05:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | maybe I'll just copy Xrender.h to /usr/include/X11/extensions | 05:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | because, you know, thats where it belongs and all... | 05:11 |
| === Diablo-D3 just wants this to build | ||
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| Diablo-D3 | Riddell: well | 06:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | Riddell: copying the file worked | 06:01 |
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| Diablo-D3 | w00t | 06:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | kdesktop works now | 06:06 |
| hunger | Diablo-D3: What did you do to fix it? | 06:07 |
| === hunger has not seen his kdesktop in days. | ||
| Diablo-D3 | hunger: built a newer version | 06:07 |
| hunger | Diablo-D3: Oh:-) | 06:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | hrm | 06:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | maybe 'fix' isnt the right word | 06:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | atleast it executes now | 06:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | and displays icons | 06:08 |
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| Diablo-D3 | gah | 06:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | xrender strikes again methinks | 06:09 |
| === Diablo-D3 is betting kdelibs didnt build with xrender enabled | ||
| Diablo-D3 | and there goes kdesktop | 06:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | #4 0xb7df1bae in __gnu_cxx::__pool<true>::_M_reclaim_block () | 06:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 | 06:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | #5 0xb654e1bf in init_konq_sound () from /usr/lib/kde3/konq_sound.so | 06:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | #6 0xb654d393 in init_konq_sound () from /usr/lib/kde3/konq_sound.so | 06:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | #7 0xb7c19d7d in KonqIconViewWidget::slotOnItem () from /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4 | 06:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | #8 0xb7c38fba in KonqIconViewWidget::qt_invoke () from /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4 | 06:13 |
| jpatrick | flood | 06:13 |
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| jpatrick | Oh dear where's _Tonio_? | 06:38 |
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| jpatrick | I need some French stuff done for Kubuntu Forums | 06:42 |
| Riddell | try #kubuntu-fr | 06:43 |
| jpatrick | I have bad French... | 06:43 |
| jpatrick | but I'll try :P | 06:44 |
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| jpat|away | Riddell: you there? | 07:33 |
| Riddell | jpat|away: hi | 07:43 |
| jpat|away | Riddell: could you announce the new French forums? | 07:44 |
| Riddell | jpat|away: sure, URL? | 07:44 |
| jpat|away | http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php#11 | 07:45 |
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| jpat|away | Tonio_! | 07:46 |
| Tonio_ | re | 07:46 |
| Tonio_ | hi jpat|away | 07:46 |
| jpat|away | just finished setting up the French forums | 07:47 |
| Tonio_ | excellente nouvelle ;) | 07:47 |
| Tonio_ | url please ? | 07:48 |
| jpat|away | http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php#11 | 07:48 |
| jpat|away | need to add descriptions tho | 07:48 |
| Tonio_ | okay | 07:48 |
| Tonio_ | don't you speak french ? | 07:48 |
| Tonio_ | let me check | 07:48 |
| jpat|away | Tonio_: a bit | 07:49 |
| jpat|away | took a while to get the people at #kubuntu-fr to understand me | 07:49 |
| Tonio_ | Installation et Premier Lancement <- trouvez les solutions vos problmes d'installation et de dmarrage | 07:49 |
| Riddell | <p><a href="http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php#11">Kubuntuforums.net</a> à des nouvelle forums francophone.</p> | 07:50 |
| Riddell | bon? | 07:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: s/des nouvelle/de nouveaux | 07:51 |
| Tonio_ | "forum" is masculin in french | 07:51 |
| jpat|away | Tonio_: got that | 07:51 |
| Tonio_ | and s/francophone/francophones ;-) | 07:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: <p><a href="http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php#11">Kubuntuforums.net</a> a de nouveaux forums francophones.</p> | 07:52 |
| Tonio_ | here is the full replacement | 07:52 |
| Tonio_ | jpat|away: let me finish the others ;) | 07:52 |
| Tonio_ | Support Logiciel <- Aide et solutions pour vos problmes relatifs aux logiciels et leur configuration | 07:54 |
| Riddell | http://kubuntu.org/ voila | 07:54 |
| jpat|away | merci | 07:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: replace "" by "a" | 07:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it doesn't take any accent when it's a verb | 07:55 |
| Riddell | done | 07:55 |
| Tonio_ | and francophone needs an "s" | 07:55 |
| Riddell | done | 07:55 |
| Tonio_ | and that's perfect ;) | 07:56 |
| Riddell | although I'm not sure why | 07:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | french speakers? | 07:56 |
| Tonio_ | advjectives takes an S when the name is plural | 07:56 |
| Riddell | my french is so bad, quebec did nothing for it | 07:56 |
| Tonio_ | that's different in english | 07:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it is quite okay, you can speak and be understood | 07:57 |
| jpat|away | right | 07:57 |
| jpat|away | Tonio_: wanna be moderator? | 07:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: my english is far from beeing perfect too ;) | 07:57 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: s/too/to/ :) | 07:57 |
| Tonio_ | jpat|away: I'd be honnored yes | 07:57 |
| jpat|away | Tonio_: your it | 07:57 |
| Tonio_ | jpat|away: thanks | 07:57 |
| jpat|away | what's your nick there? | 07:58 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: "to" when saying "also" take only one "o" ? | 07:58 |
| Riddell | hmm, dunno, maybe not | 07:59 |
| Tonio_ | ;) | 07:59 |
| jpat|away | Riddell: is 'older news' meant to have to stories with the same names above it? | 08:00 |
| Tonio_ | Support Matriel <- Posez ici vos questions concernant vos problmes relatifs au matriel | 08:00 |
| Tonio_ | jpat|away: id "Gnral" a kind of blabla, or is itsupposed to be relative to kubuntu anyway ? | 08:01 |
| jpat|away | Relative/Anything else | 08:02 |
| Tonio_ | jpat|away: okay | 08:02 |
| Tonio_ | Gnral <- Pour les sujets divers ne correspondant aucune des rubriques ci-dessus | 08:03 |
| Tonio_ | jpat|away: that should be okay | 08:03 |
| jpat|away | prefect | 08:03 |
| jpat|away | just need your nick | 08:03 |
| Riddell | jpat|away: nope, fixed, thanks | 08:04 |
| Riddell | hmm, no more kubuntu-girl on front page | 08:05 |
| jpat|away | welcome :) | 08:05 |
| jpat|away | :( | 08:05 |
| jpat|away | under Konqui? | 08:05 |
| Tonio_ | jpat|away: concerning the moderator rank, my account's login is Tonio, simply, in case you where doubting | 08:07 |
| jpat|away | right | 08:07 |
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| jpat|away | Just need to wait for Zack (admin) to finish his test | 08:08 |
| jpat|away | gotta go | 08:08 |
| jpat|away | later | 08:08 |
| Riddell | I need more upstream | 08:08 |
| Riddell | my bandwidth is saturated | 08:08 |
| jjesse | just finished upgrading kubuntu breezy box to dapper :) | 08:09 |
| Riddell | jjesse: success? | 08:09 |
| jjesse | successful upgrade, i'm restarting just for fun :) | 08:09 |
| jjesse | does dapper include kde 3.5 rc1? | 08:09 |
| Riddell | nope | 08:09 |
| jjesse | i guess that's next | 08:10 |
| Riddell | should do in a couple of days, maybe, possibly | 08:10 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: just saw this | 08:11 |
| Tonio_ | http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=18416 | 08:11 |
| jjesse | can i use the deb source for kde35rc in a dapper build? | 08:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it appears that the french ubuntu-fr.org team was about to create a french section | 08:12 |
| Riddell | jjesse: yep | 08:13 |
| Tonio_ | and they are apparently embarrassed with the risk of having a double database that would make it complicated for users to search on...... | 08:13 |
| Riddell | hmm, splitting the community isn't good | 08:15 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I don't have any opinion, but I'm just discussing with him | 08:18 |
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| Riddell | saklut yann | 08:19 |
| Riddell | salut | 08:19 |
| === Tm_T will do Kubuntu/KDE presentation wednesday | ||
| Diablo-D3 | the new sf.net site is up | 08:20 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: where? who to? | 08:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | ugly as sin | 08:20 |
| Tm_T | have to speak english, let's see if I can manage it all | 08:20 |
| Riddell | tmrather | 08:20 |
| Tm_T | ? | 08:21 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: Yann2 is from ubuntu-fr.org, He is the guy I was discussing with | 08:21 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: where? who to? | 08:21 |
| Tm_T | in school, to class | 08:22 |
| Tm_T | part of "speak english" course | 08:22 |
| === OculusAquilae so | ||
| OculusAquilae | ah :-) | 08:22 |
| OculusAquilae | wrong command :-) | 08:22 |
| Tm_T | :p | 08:23 |
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| Tm_T | :) | 08:28 |
| Sime | scary stuff. ;-) | 08:29 |
| Riddell | Sime: to who? | 08:32 |
| Sime | Riddell: NLUUG, (www.nluug.nl) | 08:33 |
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| Riddell | what's the event? might be good to have that on the dot | 08:35 |
| Tm_T | that reminds me, I may do presentation too in next local LUG meeting | 08:36 |
| Tm_T | if I manage to be there | 08:36 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: #do you prefer to use kubuntuofurms or ubuntu-fr for francophone kubuntu stuff? | 08:37 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum..... | 08:40 |
| Tonio_ | dunno | 08:40 |
| Tonio_ | both have advantages.... | 08:40 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: in fact I don't see any particular difference as long as the "non hosting" board is linking the other one | 08:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it is always possible to add a fake board that is only an external link | 08:42 |
| Riddell | if francophone kubuntu users have a question about X or whatever I think they are more likely to prefer ubuntu-fr over englihs speaking kubuntuforums | 08:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: probably | 08:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: anyway http://ubuntuforums.org/ isn't hosting something else that english | 08:43 |
| Riddell | shame jpatrick has gone, can't discuss it with him | 08:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: maybe it's better to keep sync with the ubuntu way to do, no ? | 08:44 |
| Tonio_ | same logic and organization | 08:44 |
| Riddell | yes | 08:44 |
| Riddell | Yann2: when do you think you could get kubuntu skin and forums up on ubuntu-fr? | 08:47 |
| Yann2 | skin? soon | 08:48 |
| Yann2 | this week certainly | 08:48 |
| Yann2 | but the css has been done last week... after a request i made :p | 08:49 |
| Yann2 | forum... we'll see how to do that at the meeting | 08:50 |
| Riddell | it's just a new area on http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/ | 08:50 |
| Yann2 | in fact i'd love to see the kubuntu team discuss with the other locoteams to see how to integrate kubuntu on existing ubuntu websites | 08:51 |
| Yann2 | Riddell > yep but we need to discuss what kind of subforums we should create | 08:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell, Yann2 : I think that if ubuntu-fr is hosting the french board, it could be interesting to link it in kubuntuforums.net as a fake board... | 08:51 |
| jjesse | successful upgrade to kde 3.5 rc1 on a dapper build | 08:52 |
| === Tonio_ doesn't know if what he's trying to describe is clear... | ||
| Yann2 | we could link kubuntuforums too | 08:52 |
| Yann2 | as soon as I know the opinion of ubuntforums ^^ | 08:52 |
| Riddell | Yann2: opinion of ubuntforums? | 08:55 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: sounds like a good idea to me | 08:56 |
| Riddell | I'll take the kubuntuofurms news off kubuntu.org | 08:57 |
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| Yann2 | Riddell > ubuntuforums is the official english forum for ubuntu and kubuntu | 08:59 |
| Yann2 | i'd like to know what Ubuntugeek thinks of kubuntuforums.net before doing anything :) | 08:59 |
| Riddell | not of kubuntu :) | 08:59 |
| Yann2 | there is also a kubuntu forum on it :p | 08:59 |
| Riddell | but yeah, I'm not sure what the best htthing is to do there either | 09:00 |
| Yann2 | Riddell > maybe, discuss? :) | 09:00 |
| Yann2 | we should be able to come to an agreement which make everybody happy :) | 09:01 |
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