=== KabelKasper [n=KabelKas@i5387F844.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:32] mornfall: The cleanest package manager GUI i have ever seen is Xandros Networks [12:32] http://www.xandros.com/images/screenshots/v3/xandros_networks1.png [12:32] http://www.xandros.com/images/screenshots/v3/xandros_networks2.png [12:34] \sh_away: Will the RepositoryDialog be a guidance aplication? === jeroenvrp is terug. [12:42] Riddell: is there a python2.4-sip4-kde3 package coming? [12:46] spstarr_home: there's a sip package and a python-kde3 package [12:47] its missing the .api files though? [12:47] python-kde3-dev ? === spstarr_home examines that [12:47] has the .sip files, what's a .api file? [12:48] oh that has the .sip file [12:48] there's a python2.4-sip4-qt3 [12:48] ok that explains what I was missing [12:50] .api files are generated by eric3 [12:50] via sip === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:53] Riddell, around? [12:54] mdke: hi [12:54] wow midnight on a sunday, what service :) [12:54] thanks, now i have a complete KDE Python development environment [12:54] Riddell, re: the kubuntu docs on help.u.c: i've put them up, just wanted to clarify something. [12:55] spstarr_home: what are the .sip files needed for? [12:55] Riddell, i made some web targets with local stylesheets, are these ok? [12:55] they are kde-default.css [12:56] Riddell, to generate code completion .api files for when specifying functions or variables [12:56] mdke: local as in file:/ ?> [12:56] s/>// [12:56] no, sorry [12:56] i'll show you [12:56] Riddell, http://help.ubuntu.com/kde/kquickguide/C/index.html [12:57] mdke: looks fine [12:57] good [12:57] mdke: why wouldn't they be? [12:57] Riddell, just in case I'd taken the wrong .css file or something [12:57] Riddell, i've made separate Makefile targets for building with that css [12:58] ending in -web [12:58] good idea [12:58] okies [12:59] will you point the links at those files? [12:59] yep [12:59] great, thanks [12:59] no kubuntu header on the pages sadly, but we can work on that [12:59] yes, I'll get round to that soonish [12:59] once kde 3.5 rc1 is done [01:00] i'd like to find a way, for kubuntu and ubuntu docs, to generate headers on the page automatically from the xsl, I'm sure it's possible [01:00] i'll look around [01:01] why shouldn't it be? [01:01] it should [01:01] i just need to learn how === KabelKasper [n=KabelKas@i5387F844.versanet.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@d-ip-129-15-213-40.wireless.ou.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL_ [n=KaiL@p548F5567.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:11] hrm, PyKDE tutorials are way out of date :( [02:12] KTMainWindow is nonexistant === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has left #kubuntu-devel ["later"] === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.186.225] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mae [n=mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@s64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #kubuntu-devel === spstarr_home [n=sh0n@CPEdeadbeef0000-CM000039d4cc6a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@s64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@rrba-146-120-32.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === author-psi [n=marcel@p509073DF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chmj [n=chmj@wbs-146-169-178.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === m-fox [n=m-fox@port-212-202-9-177.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Diablo-D3 [i=diablod3@pool-71-241-214-94.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:05] anyone having problems with kdesktop segfaulting? [10:05] version? [10:05] dapper. [10:05] I mean KDE version [10:06] 3.4.3-0ubuntu4 [10:06] ah === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:07] Im pretty sure its related to the libarts bullshit thats been going on [10:07] :/ [10:07] I don't use arts, for reason [10:07] #4 0xb69debae in __gnu_cxx::__pool::_M_reclaim_block () [10:07] from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 [10:07] #5 0xb651afbc in __gnu_cxx::__mt_alloc >::deallocate () from /usr/lib/libartskde.so.1 [10:07] #6 0xb5fcec5c in Arts::readTypeSeq () [10:07] from /usr/lib/libmcop.so.1 [10:07] it doesnt really matter [10:07] I do my best to avoid it [10:08] kdesktop is still linked to it, and tries to use it [10:08] yup [10:08] even if soundsystem is disabled? [10:08] yup [10:08] humm [10:08] great [10:09] I've seen similar tracebacks for other things [10:09] in bugzilla I mean [10:09] (on bugzilla?) [10:09] in [10:09] imo [10:10] Im not sure why this hasnt been noticed before [10:10] the lack of kdesktop functioning would be pretty noticable [10:10] hi everyone [10:11] hullo Tonio_ [10:13] hi Tm_T [10:14] what sucks is reverting to breezy's kdesktop and libarts1c2 doesnt help === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:18] Diablo-D3: I installed rc1, no problem, I moved to dapper, no problem [10:18] Tm_T: wtf. [10:18] I wonder whats causing that then. [10:19] well, never used 3.4.3 afaik [10:19] so if it's there, I don't know [10:19] yeah, but Im using the newest packages. [10:19] so if you're using the newest packages, and I'm using the newest pakcages, then theres a problem. [10:21] humm, can you try rc1 ? [10:21] (not sure does it install properly to dapper though) [10:21] no, I cant try rc1 === Diablo-D3 has no other machines to install on [10:22] hmh [10:22] then use it, don't just try ;) [10:22] hah === Diablo-D3 has a working dapper install thankyouverymuch [10:23] I don't have other machines to test either [10:23] I just install new stuff and fortunately most of the timee all works fine [10:24] what version of kdesktop do you have installed? [10:25] I'm not home now, but I hope it's still rc1 === Diablo-D3 tries building kdebase [10:30] wtf. [10:30] Tm_T: something isnt right here [10:30] ah [10:30] you have borked your own box? [10:30] why does dapper have 3.5-rc1 for source [10:30] and not for packages? [10:30] dunno === Diablo-D3 is quite confused now. [10:31] if there's no packages, make some ;) [10:31] well, thats what I'm doing atm [10:31] :) [10:31] though, I obviously can't upload them to dapper =P [10:32] it's because the gcc transition that's going to happen this week [10:33] lets see how long kdebase takes to compile on my sempron 2600+ [10:34] Verwilst: please tell more [10:34] yes, spit it out [10:34] libstdc++ will be upgraded iirc [10:34] oh god, again? [10:34] which will mean rebuilding lots of dapper pkgs [10:34] didnt we just go through one of these? [10:35] that was gcc4.0 transition :p [10:35] this will happen this week normally [10:35] Verwilst: something to do with this? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/427962 === Diablo-D3 will have to rebuild kdelibs. [10:36] and hopefully nothing else. [10:39] Tm_T, no idea :) [10:39] Verwilst: that was with gcc4, gcc3.4(?) compiled it fine === Diablo-D3 will have to build arts. [10:40] hah [10:41] so, arts, kdelibs, and kdebase. [10:41] what a pain in the ass. [10:41] yes I am [10:41] er, that cant be right [10:41] g++-3.4 is a build dep of arts. [10:42] that means... [10:42] um [10:42] wtf? [10:42] that doesnt even make sense [10:43] why would g++3.4 ever be a build dep of arts? [10:43] kde is built with 4.0 === Diablo-D3 tries it anyhow =/ === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:45] I wonder if I could CXX=g++-4.0 apt-get -b source arts [10:45] nope [10:51] ugh [10:51] * Build with GCC 3.4 to prevent segfault [10:51] thanks jriddel [10:52] Tm_T: hey [10:52] if arts is compiled with g++ 3.4, kde cant link with it, right? === m-fox [n=m-fox@port-212-202-9-177.dynamic.qsc.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:00] AHAH! [11:00] I found a bug methinks [11:00] kdelibs requires libarts1-dev >= 1.5.0 [11:00] but 1.5-rc1-1ubuntu1 apparently doesnt >= 1.5.0 [11:01] anyone think I should file a bug? [11:06] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/4435 === Diablo-D3 builds a copy of kdelibs by force. [11:10] ie, editing the control file === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:50] kdelibs is done! === Diablo-D3 now builds kdebase [12:02] soon I will have a working copy of kde 3.5 rc1 as packaged by ubuntu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_ [n=hunger@p54A640BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:40] ahh another bug [12:40] Xrender.h->render.h === hunger_ is now known as hunger [12:53] no thats not quite right either === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === chmj_ [n=chmj@wbs-146-171-71.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F5567.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A62458.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:53] Diablo-D3: no need to file a bug [01:58] hi Riddell [01:58] Riddell: FYI, I uploaded on REVU the last version of pwmanager (the package that didn't want to upload for a strange reason)... Maybe this new package will. [01:59] also I uploaded an update for kmess, tellico, and a original package for codeine (a media player minimalist, very stable, rocking...) [02:00] Riddell: well too late =P === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === author-psi [n=marcel@p509073DF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D2F23.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A63C66.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:29] Riddell: how is rc1 doing? [03:31] jeroenvrp: compiling away nicely thanks :) [03:31] great [03:32] do you have any indication when they will be available? [03:32] new c++ transition has slowed it down but I should have the breezy stuff available in a couple of hours with any luck [03:32] great, so I will be able to update my breezy to 3.5 this evening [03:32] Riddell: thank you very much for your great work [03:38] cp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/usr/bin/kfontview': No such file or directory [03:38] bah === Diablo-D3 fucking gives up [03:41] Diablo-D3: what's that? [03:43] kdebase 3.5 rc1 from dapper [03:43] I got arts to build fine, and I got kdelibs to build fine [03:43] but kdebase just fucking shits itself === KabelKasper [n=KabelKas@i5387E927.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A617A4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === m-fox [n=m-fox@port-212-202-9-177.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:19] can i just change my sources from breezy to dapper to get a preview of what dapper currently looks like? [04:21] jjesse: you can, it doesn't look much different :) [04:21] install 5, upgrad 417 remove 2 according to adept :) [04:22] Riddell: so any ideas? [04:24] Diablo-D3: what's the problem? [04:24] cp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/usr/bin/kfontview': No such file or directory [04:25] when do you get that? [04:25] at the end [04:25] its running dh_ commands [04:26] Riddell: I'm assuming kde in dapper was never meant to be compiled [04:26] because it doesnt without hacking [04:27] I have kfontview on my kdebase compile [04:27] blah [04:27] possibly you're missing some buil [04:27] possibly you're missing some build-dep [04:27] unlikely [04:27] unless the build-deps are incomplete [04:28] I only have installed whats required for arts, kdelibs, and kdebase. [04:28] atleast kdelibs builds with only one alteration [04:28] look through the configure output [04:29] and try running make in ./obj-i486-linux-gnu/kcontrol/kfontinst/viewpart/ [04:29] (had to change control to allow arts 1.5-current-ubuntu, because it doesnt >= 1.5.0) [04:30] hrm, where does configure.log end up? [04:30] er config.log [04:30] in obj-i486-linux-gnu [04:30] see the .build file in .. though [04:30] heh shoulda known [04:31] config.log isnt being useful, sadly enough [04:32] though, something maybe interesting... [04:32] configure:43370: checking for fontconfig-config [04:32] configure:43420: result: not found [04:32] checking for GL fails too [04:32] sounds likely [04:33] that Xrender.h thing crops up again too [04:34] so the check for Xft fails. [04:34] Riddell: for some reason (ask daniels, because I dont get it) Xrender.h is not put in /usr/include/X11/extensions [04:35] its put in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/extensions, all by itself [04:35] dun dun duuuun [04:35] configure:45168: WARNING: Missing Xft headers - disabling font previews! [05:09] Riddell: hey [05:09] Diablo-D3: hmm? [05:09] so whats the proper way to fix this Xrender.h bullshit? [05:10] wuh, not sure just yet [05:10] this does suck, btw [05:11] maybe I'll just copy Xrender.h to /usr/include/X11/extensions [05:11] because, you know, thats where it belongs and all... === Diablo-D3 just wants this to build === Tm_T [i=tm_travo@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:01] Riddell: well [06:01] Riddell: copying the file worked === jpatrick [n=patrick@231.Red-81-36-250.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cmvo [n=vcc@62.225.11.174] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:06] w00t [06:06] kdesktop works now [06:07] Diablo-D3: What did you do to fix it? === hunger has not seen his kdesktop in days. [06:07] hunger: built a newer version [06:07] Diablo-D3: Oh:-) [06:08] hrm [06:08] maybe 'fix' isnt the right word [06:08] atleast it executes now [06:08] and displays icons === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D22BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:09] gah [06:09] xrender strikes again methinks === Diablo-D3 is betting kdelibs didnt build with xrender enabled [06:12] and there goes kdesktop [06:13] #4 0xb7df1bae in __gnu_cxx::__pool::_M_reclaim_block () [06:13] from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 [06:13] #5 0xb654e1bf in init_konq_sound () from /usr/lib/kde3/konq_sound.so [06:13] #6 0xb654d393 in init_konq_sound () from /usr/lib/kde3/konq_sound.so [06:13] #7 0xb7c19d7d in KonqIconViewWidget::slotOnItem () from /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4 [06:13] #8 0xb7c38fba in KonqIconViewWidget::qt_invoke () from /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4 [06:13] flood === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D22BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D22BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:38] Oh dear where's _Tonio_? [06:39] 16:42 -!- Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] === Oculus [n=oculus@p548D361D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:42] I need some French stuff done for Kubuntu Forums [06:43] try #kubuntu-fr [06:43] I have bad French... [06:44] but I'll try :P === olwin [n=olwin@dyn-83-157-243-173.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Oculus [n=oculus@p548D361D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _olwin [n=olwin@dyn-83-157-246-115.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:33] Riddell: you there? [07:43] jpat|away: hi [07:44] Riddell: could you announce the new French forums? [07:44] jpat|away: sure, URL? [07:45] http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php#11 === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:46] Tonio_! [07:46] re [07:46] hi jpat|away [07:47] just finished setting up the French forums [07:47] excellente nouvelle ;) [07:48] url please ? [07:48] http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php#11 [07:48] need to add descriptions tho [07:48] okay [07:48] don't you speak french ? [07:48] let me check [07:49] Tonio_: a bit [07:49] took a while to get the people at #kubuntu-fr to understand me [07:49] Installation et Premier Lancement <- trouvez les solutions vos problmes d'installation et de dmarrage [07:50]

Kubuntuforums.net à des nouvelle forums francophone.

[07:50] bon? [07:51] Riddell: s/des nouvelle/de nouveaux [07:51] "forum" is masculin in french [07:51] Tonio_: got that [07:51] and s/francophone/francophones ;-) [07:52] Riddell:

Kubuntuforums.net a de nouveaux forums francophones.

[07:52] here is the full replacement [07:52] jpat|away: let me finish the others ;) [07:54] Support Logiciel <- Aide et solutions pour vos problmes relatifs aux logiciels et leur configuration [07:54] http://kubuntu.org/ voila [07:55] merci [07:55] Riddell: replace "" by "a" [07:55] Riddell: it doesn't take any accent when it's a verb [07:55] done [07:55] and francophone needs an "s" [07:55] done [07:56] and that's perfect ;) [07:56] although I'm not sure why [07:56] french speakers? [07:56] advjectives takes an S when the name is plural [07:56] my french is so bad, quebec did nothing for it [07:56] that's different in english [07:57] Riddell: it is quite okay, you can speak and be understood [07:57] right [07:57] Tonio_: wanna be moderator? [07:57] Riddell: my english is far from beeing perfect too ;) [07:57] Tonio_: s/too/to/ :) [07:57] jpat|away: I'd be honnored yes [07:57] Tonio_: your it [07:57] jpat|away: thanks [07:58] what's your nick there? [07:58] Riddell: "to" when saying "also" take only one "o" ? [07:59] hmm, dunno, maybe not [07:59] ;) [08:00] Riddell: is 'older news' meant to have to stories with the same names above it? [08:00] Support Matriel <- Posez ici vos questions concernant vos problmes relatifs au matriel [08:01] jpat|away: id "Gnral" a kind of blabla, or is itsupposed to be relative to kubuntu anyway ? [08:02] Relative/Anything else [08:02] jpat|away: okay [08:03] Gnral <- Pour les sujets divers ne correspondant aucune des rubriques ci-dessus [08:03] jpat|away: that should be okay [08:03] prefect [08:03] just need your nick [08:04] jpat|away: nope, fixed, thanks [08:05] hmm, no more kubuntu-girl on front page [08:05] welcome :) [08:05] :( [08:05] under Konqui? [08:07] jpat|away: concerning the moderator rank, my account's login is Tonio, simply, in case you where doubting [08:07] right === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:08] Just need to wait for Zack (admin) to finish his test [08:08] gotta go [08:08] later [08:08] I need more upstream [08:08] my bandwidth is saturated [08:09] just finished upgrading kubuntu breezy box to dapper :) [08:09] jjesse: success? [08:09] successful upgrade, i'm restarting just for fun :) [08:09] does dapper include kde 3.5 rc1? [08:09] nope [08:10] i guess that's next [08:10] should do in a couple of days, maybe, possibly [08:11] Riddell: just saw this [08:11] http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=18416 [08:12] can i use the deb source for kde35rc in a dapper build? [08:12] Riddell: it appears that the french ubuntu-fr.org team was about to create a french section [08:13] jjesse: yep [08:13] and they are apparently embarrassed with the risk of having a double database that would make it complicated for users to search on...... [08:15] hmm, splitting the community isn't good [08:18] Riddell: I don't have any opinion, but I'm just discussing with him === Yann2 [n=Yann2@sab57-1-82-231-107-53.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:19] saklut yann [08:19] salut === Tm_T will do Kubuntu/KDE presentation wednesday [08:20] the new sf.net site is up [08:20] Tonio_: where? who to? [08:20] ugly as sin [08:20] have to speak english, let's see if I can manage it all [08:20] tm rather [08:21] ? [08:21] Riddell: Yann2 is from ubuntu-fr.org, He is the guy I was discussing with [08:21] Tm_T: where? who to? [08:22] in school, to class [08:22] part of "speak english" course === OculusAquilae so [08:22] ah :-) [08:22] wrong command :-) [08:23] :p === author-psi [n=marcel@p509073DF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Sime will do a KDE+Python programming presentation thursday [08:28] :) [08:29] scary stuff. ;-) [08:32] Sime: to who? [08:33] Riddell: NLUUG, (www.nluug.nl) === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@lns-bzn-37-82-253-53-53.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@lns-bzn-37-82-253-53-53.adsl.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["ByeBye"] [08:35] what's the event? might be good to have that on the dot [08:36] that reminds me, I may do presentation too in next local LUG meeting [08:36] if I manage to be there [08:37] Tonio_: #do you prefer to use kubuntuofurms or ubuntu-fr for francophone kubuntu stuff? [08:40] Riddell: hum..... [08:40] dunno [08:40] both have advantages.... [08:41] Riddell: in fact I don't see any particular difference as long as the "non hosting" board is linking the other one [08:42] Riddell: it is always possible to add a fake board that is only an external link [08:43] if francophone kubuntu users have a question about X or whatever I think they are more likely to prefer ubuntu-fr over englihs speaking kubuntuforums [08:43] Riddell: probably [08:43] Riddell: anyway http://ubuntuforums.org/ isn't hosting something else that english [08:43] shame jpatrick has gone, can't discuss it with him [08:44] Riddell: maybe it's better to keep sync with the ubuntu way to do, no ? [08:44] same logic and organization [08:44] yes [08:47] Yann2: when do you think you could get kubuntu skin and forums up on ubuntu-fr? [08:48] skin? soon [08:48] this week certainly [08:49] but the css has been done last week... after a request i made :p [08:50] forum... we'll see how to do that at the meeting [08:50] it's just a new area on http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/ [08:51] in fact i'd love to see the kubuntu team discuss with the other locoteams to see how to integrate kubuntu on existing ubuntu websites [08:51] Riddell > yep but we need to discuss what kind of subforums we should create [08:51] Riddell, Yann2 : I think that if ubuntu-fr is hosting the french board, it could be interesting to link it in kubuntuforums.net as a fake board... [08:52] successful upgrade to kde 3.5 rc1 on a dapper build === Tonio_ doesn't know if what he's trying to describe is clear... [08:52] we could link kubuntuforums too [08:52] as soon as I know the opinion of ubuntforums ^^ [08:55] Yann2: opinion of ubuntforums? [08:56] Tonio_: sounds like a good idea to me [08:57] I'll take the kubuntuofurms news off kubuntu.org === hunger [n=hunger@p54A6107A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:59] Riddell > ubuntuforums is the official english forum for ubuntu and kubuntu [08:59] i'd like to know what Ubuntugeek thinks of kubuntuforums.net before doing anything :) [08:59] not of kubuntu :) [08:59] there is also a kubuntu forum on it :p [09:00] but yeah, I'm not sure what the best htthing is to do there either [09:00] Riddell > maybe, discuss? :) [09:01] we should be able to come to an agreement which make everybody happy :) === olwin [n=olwin@dyn-83-156-93-31.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _olwin [n=olwin@dyn-83-156-81-169.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@s64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === author-psi [n=marcel@p509073DF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === m-fox [n=m-fox@port-212-202-9-177.dynamic.qsc.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@s64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@s64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@s64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel