[12:32] <KabelKasper> mornfall: The cleanest package manager GUI i have ever seen is Xandros Networks
[12:32] <KabelKasper> http://www.xandros.com/images/screenshots/v3/xandros_networks1.png
[12:32] <KabelKasper> http://www.xandros.com/images/screenshots/v3/xandros_networks2.png
[12:34] <KabelKasper> \sh_away: Will the RepositoryDialog be a guidance aplication?
[12:42] <spstarr_home> Riddell: is there a python2.4-sip4-kde3 package coming?
[12:46] <Riddell> spstarr_home: there's a sip package and a python-kde3 package
[12:47] <spstarr_home> its missing the .api files though?
[12:47] <Riddell> python-kde3-dev ?
[12:47] <Riddell> has the .sip files, what's a .api file?
[12:48] <spstarr_home> oh that has the .sip file
[12:48] <spstarr_home> there's a python2.4-sip4-qt3
[12:48] <spstarr_home> ok that explains what I was missing
[12:50] <spstarr_home>  .api files are generated by eric3
[12:50] <spstarr_home> via sip
[12:53] <mdke> Riddell, around?
[12:54] <Riddell> mdke: hi
[12:54] <mdke> wow midnight on a sunday, what service :)
[12:54] <spstarr_home> thanks, now i have a complete KDE Python development environment
[12:54] <mdke> Riddell, re: the kubuntu docs on help.u.c: i've put them up, just wanted to clarify something.
[12:55] <Riddell> spstarr_home: what are the .sip files needed for?
[12:55] <mdke> Riddell, i made some web targets with local stylesheets, are these ok?
[12:55] <mdke> they are kde-default.css
[12:56] <spstarr_home> Riddell, to generate code completion .api files for when specifying functions or variables
[12:56] <Riddell> mdke: local as in file:/  ?>
[12:56] <Riddell> s/>//
[12:56] <mdke> no, sorry
[12:56] <mdke> i'll show you
[12:56] <mdke> Riddell, http://help.ubuntu.com/kde/kquickguide/C/index.html
[12:57] <Riddell> mdke: looks fine
[12:57] <mdke> good
[12:57] <Riddell> mdke: why wouldn't they be?
[12:57] <mdke> Riddell, just in case I'd taken the wrong .css file or something
[12:57] <mdke> Riddell, i've made separate Makefile targets for building with that css
[12:58] <mdke> ending in -web
[12:58] <Riddell> good idea
[12:58] <mdke> okies
[12:59] <mdke> will you point the links at those files?
[12:59] <Riddell> yep
[12:59] <mdke> great, thanks
[12:59] <mdke> no kubuntu header on the pages sadly, but we can work on that
[12:59] <Riddell> yes, I'll get round to that soonish
[12:59] <Riddell> once kde 3.5 rc1 is done
[01:00] <mdke> i'd like to find a way, for kubuntu and ubuntu docs, to generate headers on the page automatically from the xsl, I'm sure it's possible
[01:00] <mdke> i'll look around
[01:01] <Riddell> why shouldn't it be?
[01:01] <mdke> it should
[01:01] <mdke> i just need to learn how
[02:11] <spstarr_home> hrm, PyKDE tutorials are way out of date :(
[02:12] <spstarr_home> KTMainWindow is nonexistant
[10:05] <Diablo-D3> anyone having problems with kdesktop segfaulting?
[10:05] <Tm_T> version?
[10:05] <Diablo-D3> dapper.
[10:05] <Tm_T> I mean KDE version
[10:06] <Diablo-D3> 3.4.3-0ubuntu4
[10:06] <Tm_T> ah
[10:07] <Diablo-D3> Im pretty sure its related to the libarts bullshit thats been going on
[10:07] <Tm_T> :/
[10:07] <Tm_T> I don't use arts, for reason
[10:07] <Diablo-D3> #4  0xb69debae in __gnu_cxx::__pool<true>::_M_reclaim_block ()
[10:07] <Diablo-D3>    from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6
[10:07] <Diablo-D3> #5  0xb651afbc in __gnu_cxx::__mt_alloc<Arts::ParamDef, __gnu_cxx::__common_pool_policy<__gnu_cxx::__pool, true> >::deallocate () from /usr/lib/libartskde.so.1
[10:07] <Diablo-D3> #6  0xb5fcec5c in Arts::readTypeSeq<Arts::MethodDef> ()
[10:07] <Diablo-D3>    from /usr/lib/libmcop.so.1
[10:07] <Diablo-D3> it doesnt really matter
[10:07] <Tm_T> I do my best to avoid it
[10:08] <Diablo-D3> kdesktop is still linked to it, and tries to use it
[10:08] <Tm_T> yup
[10:08] <Tm_T> even if soundsystem is disabled?
[10:08] <Diablo-D3> yup
[10:08] <Tm_T> humm
[10:08] <Tm_T> great
[10:09] <Diablo-D3> I've seen similar tracebacks for other things
[10:09] <Diablo-D3> in bugzilla I mean
[10:09] <Diablo-D3> (on bugzilla?)
[10:09] <Tm_T> in
[10:09] <Tm_T> imo
[10:10] <Diablo-D3> Im not sure why this hasnt been noticed before
[10:10] <Diablo-D3> the lack of kdesktop functioning would be pretty noticable
[10:10] <Tonio_> hi everyone
[10:11] <Tm_T> hullo Tonio_ 
[10:13] <Tonio_> hi Tm_T 
[10:14] <Diablo-D3> what sucks is reverting to breezy's kdesktop and libarts1c2 doesnt help
[10:18] <Tm_T> Diablo-D3: I installed rc1, no problem, I moved to dapper, no problem
[10:18] <Diablo-D3> Tm_T: wtf.
[10:18] <Diablo-D3> I wonder whats causing that then.
[10:19] <Tm_T> well, never used 3.4.3 afaik
[10:19] <Tm_T> so if it's there, I don't know
[10:19] <Diablo-D3> yeah, but Im using the newest packages.
[10:19] <Diablo-D3> so if you're using the newest packages, and I'm using the newest pakcages, then theres a problem.
[10:21] <Tm_T> humm, can you try rc1 ?
[10:21] <Tm_T> (not sure does it install properly to dapper though)
[10:21] <Diablo-D3> no, I cant try rc1
[10:22] <Tm_T> hmh
[10:22] <Tm_T> then use it, don't just try ;)
[10:22] <Diablo-D3> hah
[10:23] <Tm_T> I don't have other machines to test either
[10:23] <Tm_T> I just install new stuff and fortunately most of the timee all works fine
[10:24] <Diablo-D3> what version of kdesktop do you have installed?
[10:25] <Tm_T> I'm not home now, but I hope it's still rc1
[10:30] <Diablo-D3> wtf.
[10:30] <Diablo-D3> Tm_T: something isnt right here
[10:30] <Tm_T> ah
[10:30] <Tm_T> you have borked your own box?
[10:30] <Diablo-D3> why does dapper have 3.5-rc1 for source
[10:30] <Diablo-D3> and not for packages?
[10:30] <Tm_T> dunno
[10:31] <Tm_T> if there's no packages, make some ;)
[10:31] <Diablo-D3> well, thats what I'm doing atm
[10:31] <Tm_T> :)
[10:31] <Diablo-D3> though, I obviously can't upload them to dapper =P
[10:32] <Verwilst> it's because the gcc transition that's going to happen this week
[10:33] <Diablo-D3> lets see how long kdebase takes to compile on my sempron 2600+
[10:34] <Tm_T> Verwilst: please tell more
[10:34] <Diablo-D3> yes, spit it out
[10:34] <Verwilst> libstdc++ will be upgraded iirc
[10:34] <Diablo-D3> oh god, again?
[10:34] <Verwilst> which will mean rebuilding lots of dapper pkgs
[10:34] <Diablo-D3> didnt we just go through one of these?
[10:35] <Verwilst> that was gcc4.0 transition :p
[10:35] <Verwilst> this will happen this week normally
[10:35] <Tm_T> Verwilst: something to do with this? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/427962
[10:36] <Diablo-D3> and hopefully nothing else.
[10:39] <Verwilst> Tm_T, no idea :)
[10:39] <Tm_T> Verwilst: that was with gcc4, gcc3.4(?) compiled it fine
[10:40] <Tm_T> hah
[10:41] <Diablo-D3> so, arts, kdelibs, and kdebase.
[10:41] <Diablo-D3> what a pain in the ass.
[10:41] <Tm_T> yes I am
[10:41] <Diablo-D3> er, that cant be right
[10:41] <Diablo-D3> g++-3.4 is a build dep of arts.
[10:42] <Diablo-D3> that means...
[10:42] <Diablo-D3> um
[10:42] <Diablo-D3> wtf?
[10:42] <Diablo-D3> that doesnt even make sense
[10:43] <Diablo-D3> why would g++3.4 ever be a build dep of arts?
[10:43] <Diablo-D3> kde is built with 4.0
[10:45] <Diablo-D3> I wonder if I could CXX=g++-4.0 apt-get -b source arts
[10:45] <Diablo-D3> nope
[10:51] <Diablo-D3> ugh
[10:51] <Diablo-D3>   * Build with GCC 3.4 to prevent segfault
[10:51] <Diablo-D3> thanks jriddel
[10:52] <Diablo-D3> Tm_T: hey
[10:52] <Diablo-D3> if arts is compiled with g++ 3.4, kde cant link with it, right?
[11:00] <Diablo-D3> AHAH!
[11:00] <Diablo-D3> I found a bug methinks
[11:00] <Diablo-D3> kdelibs requires libarts1-dev >= 1.5.0
[11:00] <Diablo-D3> but 1.5-rc1-1ubuntu1 apparently doesnt >= 1.5.0
[11:01] <Diablo-D3> anyone think I should file a bug?
[11:06] <Diablo-D3> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/4435
[11:10] <Diablo-D3> ie, editing the control file
[11:50] <Diablo-D3> kdelibs is done!
[12:02] <Diablo-D3> soon I will have a working copy of kde 3.5 rc1 as packaged by ubuntu
[12:40] <Diablo-D3> ahh another bug
[12:40] <Diablo-D3> Xrender.h->render.h
[12:53] <Diablo-D3> no thats not quite right either
[01:53] <Riddell> Diablo-D3: no need to file a bug
[01:58] <Tonio_> hi Riddell 
[01:58] <Tonio_> Riddell: FYI, I uploaded on REVU the last version of pwmanager (the package that didn't want to upload for a strange reason)... Maybe this new package will.
[01:59] <Tonio_> also I uploaded an update for kmess, tellico, and a original package for codeine (a media player minimalist, very stable, rocking...)
[02:00] <Diablo-D3> Riddell: well too late =P
[03:29] <jeroenvrp> Riddell: how is rc1 doing?
[03:31] <Riddell> jeroenvrp: compiling away nicely thanks :)
[03:31] <jeroenvrp> great
[03:32] <jeroenvrp> do you have any indication when they will be available?
[03:32] <Riddell> new c++ transition has slowed it down but I should have the breezy stuff available in a couple of hours with any luck
[03:32] <jeroenvrp> great, so I will be able to update my breezy to 3.5 this evening
[03:32] <jeroenvrp> Riddell: thank you very much for your great work
[03:38] <Diablo-D3> cp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/usr/bin/kfontview': No such file or directory
[03:38] <Diablo-D3> bah
[03:41] <Riddell> Diablo-D3: what's that?
[03:43] <Diablo-D3> kdebase 3.5 rc1 from dapper
[03:43] <Diablo-D3> I got arts to build fine, and I got kdelibs to build fine
[03:43] <Diablo-D3> but kdebase just fucking shits itself
[04:19] <jjesse> can i just change my sources from breezy to dapper to get a preview of what dapper currently looks like?
[04:21] <Riddell> jjesse: you can, it doesn't look much different :)
[04:21] <jjesse> install 5, upgrad 417 remove 2 according to adept :)
[04:22] <Diablo-D3> Riddell: so any ideas?
[04:24] <Riddell> Diablo-D3: what's the problem?
[04:24] <Diablo-D3> cp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp/usr/bin/kfontview': No such file or directory
[04:25] <Riddell> when do you get that?
[04:25] <Diablo-D3> at the end
[04:25] <Diablo-D3> its running dh_ commands
[04:26] <Diablo-D3> Riddell: I'm assuming kde in dapper was never meant to be compiled
[04:26] <Diablo-D3> because it doesnt without hacking
[04:27] <Riddell> I have kfontview on my kdebase compile
[04:27] <Diablo-D3> blah
[04:27] <Riddell> possibly you're missing some buil
[04:27] <Riddell> possibly you're missing some build-dep
[04:27] <Diablo-D3> unlikely
[04:27] <Diablo-D3> unless the build-deps are incomplete
[04:28] <Diablo-D3> I only have installed whats required for arts, kdelibs, and kdebase.
[04:28] <Diablo-D3> atleast kdelibs builds with only one alteration
[04:28] <Riddell> look through the configure output
[04:29] <Riddell> and try running make in ./obj-i486-linux-gnu/kcontrol/kfontinst/viewpart/
[04:29] <Diablo-D3> (had to change control to allow arts 1.5-current-ubuntu, because it doesnt >= 1.5.0)
[04:30] <Diablo-D3> hrm, where does configure.log end up?
[04:30] <Diablo-D3> er config.log
[04:30] <Riddell> in obj-i486-linux-gnu
[04:30] <Riddell> see the .build file in .. though
[04:30] <Diablo-D3> heh shoulda known
[04:31] <Diablo-D3> config.log isnt being useful, sadly enough
[04:32] <Diablo-D3> though, something maybe interesting...
[04:32] <Diablo-D3> configure:43370: checking for fontconfig-config
[04:32] <Diablo-D3> configure:43420: result: not found
[04:32] <Diablo-D3> checking for GL fails too
[04:32] <Riddell> sounds likely
[04:33] <Diablo-D3> that Xrender.h thing crops up again too
[04:34] <Diablo-D3> so the check for Xft fails.
[04:34] <Diablo-D3> Riddell: for some reason (ask daniels, because I dont get it) Xrender.h is not put in /usr/include/X11/extensions
[04:35] <Diablo-D3> its put in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/extensions, all by itself
[04:35] <Diablo-D3> dun dun duuuun
[04:35] <Diablo-D3> configure:45168: WARNING: Missing Xft headers - disabling font previews!
[05:09] <Diablo-D3> Riddell: hey
[05:09] <Riddell> Diablo-D3: hmm?
[05:09] <Diablo-D3> so whats the proper way to fix this Xrender.h bullshit?
[05:10] <Riddell> wuh, not sure just yet
[05:10] <Diablo-D3> this does suck, btw
[05:11] <Diablo-D3> maybe I'll just copy Xrender.h to /usr/include/X11/extensions
[05:11] <Diablo-D3> because, you know, thats where it belongs and all...
[06:01] <Diablo-D3> Riddell: well
[06:01] <Diablo-D3> Riddell: copying the file worked
[06:06] <Diablo-D3> w00t
[06:06] <Diablo-D3> kdesktop works now
[06:07] <hunger> Diablo-D3: What did you do to fix it?
[06:07] <Diablo-D3> hunger: built a newer version
[06:07] <hunger> Diablo-D3: Oh:-)
[06:08] <Diablo-D3> hrm
[06:08] <Diablo-D3> maybe 'fix' isnt the right word
[06:08] <Diablo-D3> atleast it executes now
[06:08] <Diablo-D3> and displays icons
[06:09] <Diablo-D3> gah
[06:09] <Diablo-D3> xrender strikes again methinks
[06:12] <Diablo-D3> and there goes kdesktop
[06:13] <Diablo-D3> #4  0xb7df1bae in __gnu_cxx::__pool<true>::_M_reclaim_block ()
[06:13] <Diablo-D3>    from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6
[06:13] <Diablo-D3> #5  0xb654e1bf in init_konq_sound () from /usr/lib/kde3/konq_sound.so
[06:13] <Diablo-D3> #6  0xb654d393 in init_konq_sound () from /usr/lib/kde3/konq_sound.so
[06:13] <Diablo-D3> #7  0xb7c19d7d in KonqIconViewWidget::slotOnItem () from /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4
[06:13] <Diablo-D3> #8  0xb7c38fba in KonqIconViewWidget::qt_invoke () from /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4
[06:13] <jpatrick> flood
[06:38] <jpatrick> Oh dear where's _Tonio_?
[06:39] <Riddell> 16:42 -!- Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net]  has quit [Remote closed the connection] 
[06:42] <jpatrick> I need some French stuff done for Kubuntu Forums
[06:43] <Riddell> try #kubuntu-fr
[06:43] <jpatrick> I have bad French...
[06:44] <jpatrick> but I'll try :P
[07:33] <jpat|away> Riddell: you there?
[07:43] <Riddell> jpat|away: hi
[07:44] <jpat|away> Riddell: could you announce the new French forums?
[07:44] <Riddell> jpat|away: sure, URL?
[07:45] <jpat|away> http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php#11
[07:46] <jpat|away> Tonio_!
[07:46] <Tonio_> re
[07:46] <Tonio_> hi jpat|away 
[07:47] <jpat|away> just finished setting up the French forums
[07:47] <Tonio_> excellente nouvelle ;)
[07:48] <Tonio_> url please ?
[07:48] <jpat|away> http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php#11
[07:48] <jpat|away> need to add descriptions tho
[07:48] <Tonio_> okay
[07:48] <Tonio_> don't you speak french ?
[07:48] <Tonio_> let me check
[07:49] <jpat|away> Tonio_: a bit
[07:49] <jpat|away> took a while to get the people at #kubuntu-fr to understand me
[07:49] <Tonio_> Installation et Premier Lancement <- trouvez les solutions  vos problmes d'installation et de dmarrage
<a href="http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php#11">Kubuntuforums.net</a> &agrave; des nouvelle forums francophone.</p>
[07:50] <Riddell> bon?
[07:51] <Tonio_> Riddell: s/des nouvelle/de nouveaux
[07:51] <Tonio_> "forum" is masculin in french
[07:51] <jpat|away> Tonio_: got that
[07:51] <Tonio_> and s/francophone/francophones ;-)
[07:52] <Tonio_> Riddell: <p><a href="http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php#11">Kubuntuforums.net</a> a de nouveaux forums francophones.</p>
[07:52] <Tonio_> here is the full replacement
[07:52] <Tonio_> jpat|away: let me finish the others ;)
[07:54] <Tonio_> Support Logiciel <- Aide et solutions pour vos problmes relatifs aux logiciels et  leur configuration
[07:54] <Riddell> http://kubuntu.org/ voila
[07:55] <jpat|away> merci
[07:55] <Tonio_> Riddell: replace "" by "a"
[07:55] <Tonio_> Riddell: it doesn't take any accent when it's a verb
[07:55] <Riddell> done
[07:55] <Tonio_> and francophone needs an "s"
[07:55] <Riddell> done
[07:56] <Tonio_> and that's perfect ;)
[07:56] <Riddell> although I'm not sure why
[07:56] <Diablo-D3> french speakers?
[07:56] <Tonio_> advjectives takes an S when the name is plural
[07:56] <Riddell> my french is so bad, quebec did nothing for it
[07:56] <Tonio_> that's different in english
[07:57] <Tonio_> Riddell: it is quite okay, you can speak and be understood
[07:57] <jpat|away> right
[07:57] <jpat|away> Tonio_: wanna be moderator?
[07:57] <Tonio_> Riddell: my english is far from beeing perfect too ;)
[07:57] <Riddell> Tonio_: s/too/to/  :)
[07:57] <Tonio_> jpat|away: I'd be honnored yes
[07:57] <jpat|away> Tonio_: your it
[07:57] <Tonio_> jpat|away: thanks
[07:58] <jpat|away> what's your nick there?
[07:58] <Tonio_> Riddell: "to" when saying "also" take only one "o" ?
[07:59] <Riddell> hmm, dunno, maybe not
[07:59] <Tonio_> ;)
[08:00] <jpat|away> Riddell: is 'older news' meant to have to stories with the same names above it?
[08:00] <Tonio_> Support Matriel <- Posez ici vos questions concernant vos problmes relatifs au matriel
[08:01] <Tonio_> jpat|away: id "Gnral" a kind of blabla, or is itsupposed to be relative to kubuntu anyway ?
[08:02] <jpat|away> Relative/Anything else
[08:02] <Tonio_> jpat|away: okay
[08:03] <Tonio_> Gnral <- Pour les sujets divers ne correspondant  aucune des rubriques ci-dessus
[08:03] <Tonio_> jpat|away: that should be okay
[08:03] <jpat|away> prefect
[08:03] <jpat|away> just need your nick
[08:04] <Riddell> jpat|away: nope, fixed, thanks
[08:05] <Riddell> hmm, no more kubuntu-girl on front page
[08:05] <jpat|away> welcome :)
[08:05] <jpat|away> :(
[08:05] <jpat|away> under Konqui?
[08:07] <Tonio_> jpat|away: concerning the moderator rank, my account's login is Tonio, simply, in case you where doubting
[08:07] <jpat|away> right
[08:08] <jpat|away> Just need to wait for Zack (admin) to finish his test
[08:08] <jpat|away> gotta go
[08:08] <jpat|away> later
[08:08] <Riddell> I need more upstream
[08:08] <Riddell> my bandwidth is saturated
[08:09] <jjesse> just finished upgrading kubuntu breezy box to dapper :)
[08:09] <Riddell> jjesse: success?
[08:09] <jjesse> successful upgrade, i'm restarting just for fun :)
[08:09] <jjesse> does dapper include kde 3.5 rc1?
[08:09] <Riddell> nope
[08:10] <jjesse> i guess that's next
[08:10] <Riddell> should do in a couple of days, maybe, possibly
[08:11] <Tonio_> Riddell: just saw this
[08:11] <Tonio_> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=18416
[08:12] <jjesse> can i use the deb source for kde35rc in a dapper build?
[08:12] <Tonio_> Riddell: it appears that the french ubuntu-fr.org team was about to create a french section
[08:13] <Riddell> jjesse: yep
[08:13] <Tonio_> and they are apparently embarrassed with the risk of having a double database that would make it complicated for users to search on......
[08:15] <Riddell> hmm, splitting the community isn't good
[08:18] <Tonio_> Riddell: I don't have any opinion, but I'm just discussing with him
[08:19] <Riddell> saklut yann
[08:19] <Riddell> salut
[08:20] <Diablo-D3> the new sf.net site is up
[08:20] <Riddell> Tonio_: where?  who to?
[08:20] <Diablo-D3> ugly as sin
[08:20] <Tm_T> have to speak english, let's see if I can manage it all
[08:20] <Riddell> tm	rather
[08:21] <Tm_T> ?
[08:21] <Tonio_> Riddell: Yann2 is from ubuntu-fr.org, He is the guy I was discussing with
[08:21] <Riddell> Tm_T: where?  who to?
[08:22] <Tm_T> in school, to class
[08:22] <Tm_T> part of "speak english" course
[08:22] <OculusAquilae> ah :-)
[08:22] <OculusAquilae> wrong command :-)
[08:23] <Tm_T> :p
[08:28] <Tm_T> :)
[08:29] <Sime> scary stuff. ;-)
[08:32] <Riddell> Sime: to who?
[08:33] <Sime> Riddell: NLUUG, (www.nluug.nl)
[08:35] <Riddell> what's the event?  might be good to have that on the dot
[08:36] <Tm_T> that reminds me, I may do presentation too in next local LUG meeting
[08:36] <Tm_T> if I manage to be there
[08:37] <Riddell> Tonio_: #do you prefer to use kubuntuofurms or ubuntu-fr for francophone kubuntu stuff?
[08:40] <Tonio_> Riddell: hum.....
[08:40] <Tonio_> dunno
[08:40] <Tonio_> both have advantages....
[08:41] <Tonio_> Riddell: in fact I don't see any particular difference as long as the "non hosting" board is linking the other one
[08:42] <Tonio_> Riddell: it is always possible to add a fake board that is only an external link
[08:43] <Riddell> if francophone kubuntu users have a question about X or whatever I think they are more likely to prefer ubuntu-fr over englihs speaking kubuntuforums
[08:43] <Tonio_> Riddell: probably
[08:43] <Tonio_> Riddell: anyway http://ubuntuforums.org/ isn't hosting something else that english
[08:43] <Riddell> shame jpatrick has gone, can't discuss it with him
[08:44] <Tonio_> Riddell: maybe it's better to keep sync with the ubuntu way to do, no ?
[08:44] <Tonio_> same logic and organization
[08:44] <Riddell> yes
[08:47] <Riddell> Yann2: when do you think you could get kubuntu skin and forums up on ubuntu-fr?
[08:48] <Yann2> skin? soon
[08:48] <Yann2> this week certainly
[08:49] <Yann2> but the css has been done last week... after a request i made :p
[08:50] <Yann2> forum... we'll see how to do that at the meeting
[08:50] <Riddell> it's just a new area on http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/
[08:51] <Yann2> in fact i'd love to see the kubuntu team discuss with the other locoteams to see how to integrate kubuntu on existing ubuntu websites
[08:51] <Yann2> Riddell > yep but we need to discuss what kind of subforums we should create
[08:51] <Tonio_> Riddell, Yann2 : I think that if ubuntu-fr is hosting the french board, it could be interesting to link it in kubuntuforums.net as a fake board...
[08:52] <jjesse> successful upgrade to kde 3.5 rc1 on a dapper build
[08:52] <Yann2> we could link kubuntuforums too
[08:52] <Yann2> as soon as I know the opinion of ubuntforums ^^
[08:55] <Riddell> Yann2: opinion of ubuntforums?
[08:56] <Riddell> Tonio_: sounds like a good idea to me
[08:57] <Riddell> I'll take the kubuntuofurms news off kubuntu.org
[08:59] <Yann2> Riddell > ubuntuforums is the official english forum for ubuntu and kubuntu
[08:59] <Yann2> i'd like to know what Ubuntugeek thinks of kubuntuforums.net before doing anything :)
[08:59] <Riddell> not of kubuntu :)
[08:59] <Yann2> there is also a kubuntu forum on it :p
[09:00] <Riddell> but yeah, I'm not sure what the best htthing is to do there either
[09:00] <Yann2> Riddell > maybe, discuss? :)
[09:01] <Yann2> we should be able to come to an agreement which make everybody happy :)