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chaoticgeekok I am at this topic http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584 trying to find out how to install the new drivers for my fresh install12:03
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chaoticgeekCurrently I can not start up kde upon a fresh boot, or using startx12:04
naliothmae: check at freshmeat.net or www.deviantart.com12:05
LeeJunFanchaoticgeek: something is devinately not right. From a fresh boot you should at least have video, fglrx is just to give you accelerated 3d.12:06
LeeJunFandefinately even :)12:06
LeeJunFanWhat's with this channel and all the chaotic or kaotic people anyway :)12:07
chaoticgeeknugget was in use12:07
chaoticgeekok well I got something and I'm going to go try it12:08
LeeJunFanyeah, chaoticnugget just wouldn't have the same ring... ;-)12:08
chaoticgeekno just plain nugget12:08
chaoticgeek...12:08
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djk_LeeJunFan: you made him leave :p12:10
djk_is there a way to configure the kde clock in the konsole? it won't let me via kde on that laptop12:10
LeeJunFanI guess. Sensetive fellow :)12:12
djk_LeeJunFan: you were mean :p he only wanted to be a nugget :(12:12
LeeJunFanwhat color? :)12:13
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djk_golden brown i suppose ;)12:13
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troyhow well do the wine packages integrate into kubuntu?12:19
djk_mmh, kubuntu booted fine a few times on the laptop, but now it's dying on starting hotplug subsystem12:20
djk_troy: i've used wine on hoary and it worked nicely12:20
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KaoticEvilno joy.12:20
troydjk_: did you have to do a lot of work to get it installed? will it try to run windows apps automagically?12:21
KaoticEvilLeeJunFan: even when i used the kil command you gave me, it stil said /home was in use12:21
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KnowerrorsCan anyone help with this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8985412:21
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djk_troy: i just had to use apt to install it and well, the programs that wine can run, ran12:23
LeeJunFanKaoticEvil: did you try kill -9?12:23
LeeJunFanKaoticEvil: maybe run it as root?12:23
KaoticEvilLeeJunFan: i was logged in as root from the console ;)12:23
KaoticEviland yes, i tried kill -9 as well12:23
LeeJunFanMan, we are getting 80mph wind gusts here right now :(12:23
LeeJunFantry running 'lsof -n | egrep /home | awk '{print $2}' | sort -n | uniq' again and see if it lists anything.12:24
troydjk_: perfect, thanks :)12:24
KaoticEvilLeeJunFan: i did... it showed nothing...12:25
djk_troy: you're welcome12:25
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djk_LeeJunFan: any idea why it would stop at "starting hotplug subsystem" during booting that damn laptop ?12:26
LeeJunFantry fuser -m /dev/hdaX - where X is the # of /home12:26
LeeJunFandjk_: no, but it normally will hang there for at least 10 seconds.12:26
djk_LeeJunFan: mmh, i've been waiting for much longer 12:28
LeeJunFanKaoticEvil: fuser -k -m /dev/hdaX will accomplish that whole damn for.... kill ... done line I gave you. heheh12:29
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KaoticEvillol LeeJunFan... seems thats a lil simpler ;)12:29
KaoticEvilLeeJunFan: ill write it down, and try it a lil later...12:30
KaoticEvilin the middle of another project... helping a friend o.o12:30
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LeeJunFanokay, I gotta go out and brave the wind now. later everyone.12:30
KaoticEvillater LeeJunFan 12:31
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jstraussHi, first time on IRC.  Why are kubuntu's wireless interface names eth0, eth2 instead of wlan012:31
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chaoticgeekarg12:37
chaoticgeekit didnt work12:37
chaoticgeekok when I boot up to kubuntu it goes to the splash screen and does the ok stuff12:41
chaoticgeekthen it goes to the console black w/ white text and it stops at battery check       [ok] 12:41
chaoticgeekand I let it sit the for a half hour and nothing happened12:42
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chaoticgeekand no one is here to help me12:42
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arcanistheroguehey, in KDE how do you add those folder buttons to the panel?12:49
arcanistheroguelike the system menu12:49
arcanistheroguethat is there by default12:49
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arcanistherogueI want to make ones like that but with custom shortcuts in them12:49
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JasonMwtf?12:50
chaoticgeekhi12:50
kairu0hey12:50
kairu0damn i'm loving kde right now12:50
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KaoticEvillol kairu0 12:51
KaoticEvilgot rc1 installed, kairu0 ?12:51
kairu0nope12:52
kairu0i think i'll wait for the final release12:53
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kairu0im in the middle of a big project and i cant afford to break my installation12:53
DrGayusis there a temperature monitoring for HDD smart12:53
DrGayus*and fan control12:53
kairu0KaoticEvil, did you?12:53
KaoticEvilDrGayus: afaik, temp monitor isnt part of SMART...12:53
KaoticEvilkairu0: yup :) sure did12:54
kairu0how is she?12:54
KaoticEvilgreat so far12:54
kairu0what is great12:54
KaoticEvilnot a problem at all.. except during the install..12:54
kairu0compared to kde 3.412:54
KaoticEvilone of the packages didnt want to isntall correctly... had to manually install it12:54
slow-motionn812:55
KaoticEvilkairu0: as far as *i* can tell, not a whole lot other than LookNFeel options... but im sure there are thousands of lines of code that are different.. im just not advanced enough to know :)12:56
kairu0is it faster?12:56
KaoticEvilkairu0: seems to be, and on my machine, every little bit counts :)12:56
kairu0KaoticEvil, pentium 60?12:56
kairu0j/k12:56
KaoticEvilkairu0: close.. Celeron 400MHz (100MHz FSB) :(12:57
kairu0thats pretty sad12:57
KaoticEvilyeah, iknoiw12:57
KaoticEvilknow*12:57
chaoticgeekok when I boot up to kubuntu it goes to the splash screen and does the ok stuff12:57
KaoticEviland whats worse.. ive only got 128MB of RAM :(12:57
chaoticgeekthen it goes to the console black w/ white text and it stops at battery check       [ok] 12:57
kairu0KaoticEvil, thats really sad12:57
KaoticEvilkairu0: yeah, i know12:58
kairu0chaoticgeek, push ctrl+c12:58
KaoticEvili miss my dual Athlon MP2200 ssytem :(12:58
chaoticgeekok12:58
kairu0KaoticEvil, what happened to it12:58
KaoticEvilsystem*12:58
chaoticgeekI'll be back if it does not work12:58
KaoticEvilkairu0: i went to jail. it got parted out12:58
kairu0chaoticgeek, you might be having a problem launching X 12:58
kairu0oops too late12:58
kairu0KaoticEvil, you serious??12:58
KaoticEvilkairu0: as a heart attack12:58
kairu0KaoticEvil, whyd you go to jail12:59
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KaoticEvilhad 1GB of PC2100 DDR, Registered/ECC, nearly 1TB of hard drive space.. i spent well over $4,000 building it12:59
KaoticEvilkairu0: hot checks :PO12:59
kairu0lol12:59
kairu0i did time for burning a baby alive once12:59
kairu0and then squeezing its heart in my fingertips01:00
KaoticEvilthats sick.01:00
kairu0lol01:00
kairu0no that was just the movie i watched last nite01:00
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chaoticgeekok ctrl-c did not work01:08
DrGayuskaoticevil: can i get your 1TB ?01:08
chaoticgeekI also tried ctrl/alt-d01:08
chaoticgeekalt-c01:08
chaoticgeekctrl+alt-c and d01:09
kairu0chaoticgeek, i think you have a problem starting x01:09
djk_how do i delete a ppp connection created with pppoeconf?01:09
kairu0battery state is one of the last things to load before x starts01:09
KaoticEvilDrGayus: no. i dont even have it anymore01:10
chaoticgeekcrap01:10
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kairu0chaoticgeek, once i had a problem like that and it was caused by a bug in the x mouse driver. i also got that problem 1 time when i installed ifplugd01:12
chaoticgeekok01:12
chaoticgeekumm 01:12
chaoticgeekI dont follow you01:12
kairu0well.. when did this start happening01:14
chaoticgeekI just installed it01:14
kairu0you've never gotten into X?01:14
chaoticgeekI did go and start recovery mode and do "apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx"01:14
chaoticgeekno01:14
chaoticgeekyes01:14
chaoticgeekcorrect01:14
kairu0ahhh so its probably an ati driver problem01:15
chaoticgeekya thats what I was thinking01:15
kairu0ok, so you arent getting into x because the video driver is failing to load01:15
chaoticgeekBut on the forums I did not see anything like this01:15
kairu0i dont have an ati card so i really know nothing about how to install your drivers01:15
chaoticgeekand there were a million ways to do it so I was so confused01:16
kairu0but i see it a lot on ubuntuforums.org. i would search for other people with your problem there01:16
chaoticgeekone way you have to recompile your entire kernal01:16
chaoticgeekanother you dont01:16
kairu0search for "x won't load ati driver" or something like that01:16
chaoticgeekok thanks01:16
kairu0good luck01:16
kairu0there may even be a HOWTO for installing ati drivers01:17
KaoticEvilchaoticgeek: have you tried editing your xorg.conf file?01:17
chaoticgeekno01:17
KaoticEvilchaoticgeek: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg01:18
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KaoticEvilerr... hang on.. its not xorg01:18
KaoticEvilshit.. what is it?01:19
chaoticgeekok well I am trying to do all this problem stuff through my windows partion01:19
kairu0its xservers-xorg? or something right?01:20
kairu0chaoticgeek, you wont be able to. 01:20
kairu0chaoticgeek, youll have to be in linux01:20
chaoticgeekI know01:21
KaoticEvilthats it... chaoticgeek: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:21
KaoticEvilthats the one :)01:21
chaoticgeekI'm getttin the ideas and trying to find out what to do through windows then I reboot and01:21
chaoticgeekstart it all over again01:21
kairu0chaoticgeek, i see01:21
KaoticEvilchaoticgeek: you should be able to change the driver that X is using thru the x-configure program using the command i just gave you :)01:21
KaoticEvilit worked for me :)01:22
chaoticgeekok01:22
chaoticgeekI'll be back if it does not work01:22
KaoticEvilother than that... try in #ubuntu as well01:22
KaoticEvilits a more active channel than this one... nevermind, youre gone01:22
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etamhi, where is the wep configuration file?01:23
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diegooooohi01:25
etamhi01:26
etamdiegooooo: do you know what file has configuration about wifi wep key?01:26
diegooooohi01:26
diegoooooi don't01:27
diegoooooi'm a newbie of kubuntu and i need a big help01:27
etamwhat kind of?01:27
diegooooohow can i see root user? (i have the latest ppc version)01:27
diegoooooi install it01:27
etami dont know as well ;)01:28
diegooooothen i can access with My user01:28
diegooooobut to connect with kppp i need to have privileges01:28
diegoooooso i can't connect01:28
diegoooootha sux01:28
diegoooooi actually don't know why i try kubuntu, just to try if works well as on intel01:28
diegooooobut macosx is better done :)01:29
KaoticEvilubotu: tell diegooooo about sudo01:29
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etamubotu: tell etam about sudo01:29
KaoticEvildiegooooo: read what ubotu just told you :)01:29
diegooooochecking01:29
etamKaoticEvil: tell ubotu to tell me too please01:31
KaoticEvilubotu: tell etam  about sudo01:31
diegooooowtf01:31
diegooooothat's hard to rememmber :)01:31
KaoticEviletam> try /msg ubotu <command> ;)01:31
diegoooooi'll go and check01:31
KaoticEvildiegooooo: no its not.. just sudo <whatever> when you need to run a command as root..01:31
etamKaoticEvil: thanks01:32
KaoticEviln/p01:32
diegoooooi'll check01:32
diegooooothank you!01:32
KaoticEvildiegooooo: a word of warning..01:32
diegooooo?01:32
KaoticEvildont use sudo for gui commands...01:32
KaoticEviluse sudo only on in a terminal01:32
diegooooolike sudo kppp?01:32
diegoooooor sudo kate?01:33
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KaoticEvilno, dont do that.. use "kdesu kppp" instead01:33
chaoticgeekit hates me01:33
diegooooobecause last time i tried i did sudo kate and kate died right after01:33
chaoticgeekit still hangs up there01:33
KaoticEvilchaoticgeek: try using just the vesa driver01:33
KaoticEvildiegooooo: use kdesu when you need to run a gui app with root privs01:33
chaoticgeekhow do I do that?01:33
diegooooook thank you!01:33
KaoticEvilchaoticgeek: select the vesa driver in xserver-xorg config01:34
KaoticEvilor, if you want to get really brave, you can edit xorg.conf by nad01:34
KaoticEvilhand*01:34
chaoticgeekya lets not01:35
Hobbseehey KaoticEvil :)01:35
KaoticEvilheya Hobbsee :)01:35
chaoticgeekok well lets try that01:36
chaoticgeekI'll be back later01:36
KaoticEvilchaoticgeek: that should at least allow you to... blah01:36
KaoticEvili wihs hed stop doing that lol01:36
KaoticEvilwish*01:36
Hobbseehehe01:36
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Hobbseewhat, wait for instructions before leaving?01:36
Hobbseedont know why you'd bother doing that lol!01:37
KaoticEvilyeah heh01:37
HobbseeKaoticEvil: am i feeling brave today lol?01:37
KaoticEvilHobbsee: old habit... i usually haunt windows:1 on yahoo...01:37
KaoticEvilHobbsee: i dont know, are you?01:37
Hobbseehmmm01:37
Hobbseei'm contemplating01:37
KaoticEvilHobbsee: brave enough for waht?01:37
Hobbseereorganising my partitions on this computer, and installing dapper, to tripple boot01:38
KaoticEvildapper? its out in pre-release?01:38
Hobbseein pre-release...it's in testing01:39
Hobbseeyou can dist upgrade, if you're prepared for things to break :P01:39
Hobbseeand on a spare partition...that could be interesting to try01:39
KaoticEvillol.. i think ill keep things the way they are :)01:40
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KaoticEvilone set of pre-release software is enough for me, i think01:40
Hobbseehehe01:40
Hobbseewhat, RC1?01:40
KaoticEvilyup :)01:40
KaoticEvilworks great.. no problems whatsoever01:40
Hobbseehavent found enough bugs here yet for it!01:40
KaoticEvilexcept during install01:40
Hobbseewhat was the install one?01:41
KaoticEvilopne of the packages didnt install properly...01:41
Hobbseeah...yes, i think i recall that01:41
Hobbseewhat did you upgrade from, too?01:41
KaoticEvili just installed it it with dpkg, and then i had some problems with the initial start... but i sorted them.. cant recall exactly HOW.. but i did.. with LeeJunFan's help01:41
Hobbseeah yep01:42
KaoticEvilfrom 3.4.301:42
Hobbseei think i was there for that01:42
KaoticEvilyeah, you were01:42
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KaoticEvilbeta2?01:42
KaoticEvil3.4.3 was a beta?01:42
Hobbseeno01:43
Hobbseekde 3.5 beta201:43
KaoticEviloh, ok01:43
Hobbsee2 gig hard drive space min...hmmm....01:44
KaoticEvili cant wait till i get a decent computer.. then i can really put kubuntu thru the tests :)01:44
Hobbseehehe01:44
Hobbseewhat's your computer now?01:44
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Hobbseehehe01:44
KaoticEvil400MHz Celeron, 128MB/20GB, 1MB Intel i810 onboard graphics01:44
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KaoticEviloh, and its only 100MHz FSB01:44
interspechey all01:45
KaoticEvilhello, interspec 01:45
interspecany ideas how i can get my webcam running on unbuntu 5.0401:45
HobbseeKaoticEvil: nasty01:45
interspecit see it in the hardware ? any ideas many thanks01:45
KaoticEvilHobbsee: tell me about it... i used to have me a badass box tho.. Dual MP2200's, 1GB of PC2100 Reg/ECC DDR, 1TB of hard drive...01:46
KaoticEvilyeah, it was badass :)01:46
Hobbseehehe nice...01:46
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Hobbseeand so you killed it?01:46
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KaoticEvilspent over $4,000US building it :)01:46
chaoticgeekok it   workss01:46
KaoticEvilchaoticgeek: any luck with the vesa driver?01:46
chaoticgeekyes01:46
KaoticEvilthere ya go :)01:46
chaoticgeekmy keyboarrrd  iss veerry  toooooouchy01:47
chaoticgeekahh01:47
KaoticEvilchaoticgeek: in a few days when i get my Radeon 7200, i may be able to help a lil more.. 01:47
djk_radeon 7200..isn't that a bit old?01:48
brodelHey.. I have a 720001:48
KaoticEvildjk_: yup.. but better than the one ive got now :)01:48
chaoticgeekI think I fixed the repeat01:48
chaoticgeekyep fixed 01:48
chaoticgeekI need a gfx card01:48
chaoticgeekthe onboard gfx sucks01:48
djk_chaoticgeek: got the sticky things out of the keyboard? ;)01:48
chaoticgeeklol01:49
chaoticgeekno just the repeat rate01:49
chaoticgeekbut I have to leave kubuntu so I can go back to windows01:49
chaoticgeek:(01:49
djk_oi01:49
KaoticEvilwhy? lol01:49
chaoticgeekI have to find out how to set up tv tuner later01:49
chaoticgeekbut I need to record something on at 801:49
KaoticEvillol01:50
djk_KaoticEvil: not enough hentai-games run on linux :(01:50
brodelmy battery seems to last longer in windows.. no idea why01:50
djk_chaoticgeek: what are you recording?01:50
Hobbseebrodel: you're not alone01:50
chaoticgeekCharmed01:50
brodelwell at least thats comforting I suppose.01:50
Hobbseealthough the windows one seems shorter too, now that i dual boot01:50
djk_heh.. chaoticgeek i hope you record it for the boobies ;)01:50
chaoticgeekno for the parents01:50
djk_fair enough01:51
chaoticgeekthey dont get WB where we live, but at college I do01:51
brodelyou are recording it in windows?01:51
chaoticgeekya01:51
brodelhmm01:51
chaoticgeekI just got linux up and running01:51
KaoticEvili dont even recall how long it takes my system to boot.. i know its a while tho :(01:51
brodelwish I could get good enough to ditch windows all together01:51
brodelalthough with my pocketpc I'll probably be stuck with it for a while.01:51
KaoticEvilbrodel: im not that good, and ive removed windows from my drive :)01:51
Hobbseebrodel: you'll get good at it if you keep learning :P01:51
Hobbseestill windows here, for games01:52
chaoticgeekI want to remove windows as soon as I can transfer everything over01:52
brodelif I could get my modem working I'd learn a lot more because I could be on it during work. :D01:52
KaoticEvilbrodel: Winmodem?01:52
chaoticgeekok well time to shut down01:52
brodelI dunno. It same up in the device listing when I looked at it.01:52
djk_how do i delete a ppp connection created with pppoeconf?01:52
KaoticEvilthe only modem ive ever gotten to work in linux was an external hardware modem01:53
KaoticEviland that was so cool.. i was happy as hell when i did that :)01:54
brodelWell I have a USB modem too, but it didn't seem to want to work either.01:54
Hobbseecan i use the same swap file for breezy and dapper?  or do i need to create a second /swap?01:54
KaoticEvilHobbsee: i dont see why you couldnt...01:54
KaoticEvilits all type 83...01:55
Hobbseeright01:55
KaoticEvilshould work... swap is cleared when the computer shut down, isnt it?'01:55
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brodelHow do I tell if it's a winmodem?01:55
HobbseeKaoticEvil: not sure01:55
KaoticEvilbrodel: is it internal?01:55
djk_chaoticgeek: that was a quick charmed episode.01:56
brodelit doesn't say winmodem in kinfocenter01:56
KaoticEvilheh01:56
chaoticgeekok well it all works, thanks a lot KaoticEvil01:56
chaoticgeekI'm in windows01:56
brodelyeah it's internal. I'm on my laptop.01:56
djk_chaoticgeek: ah :p01:56
KaoticEviln/p chaoticgeek.. 01:56
chaoticgeekbut I can soak up any knowladge ppl toss around in here01:56
KaoticEvilbrodel: good luck with that... it probably *is* a winmodem01:56
Hobbseechaoticgeek: so true01:56
chaoticgeekI seen this article where someone took a winmodem and a computer and made an answering machine01:57
Hobbseei'm learning all sorts of things about ndiswrapper, but never had a wireless card01:57
KaoticEviland there is plenty of that.. sometimes :P01:57
brodelKaoticEvil: any idea how I could tell?01:57
KaoticEvilknowledge flying about here, that is...01:57
KaoticEvilbrodel: the odds are very good (99.9%) that your lappymodem is a winmodem...01:57
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chaoticgeekI need to find out how to fix my resolution01:58
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chaoticgeekmy screen seems jummpy for somereason01:58
KaoticEvilchaoticgeek: in linux? or windows?01:58
chaoticgeekbut thats for later01:58
chaoticgeeklinux01:58
brodelyeah.. I just looked it up.. http://www.michaelminn.com/linux/notebooks/toshiba1905.html#section601:58
brodelthanks though01:58
KaoticEvilchaoticgeek: check out the xorg.conf file :)01:58
KaoticEvilyou can use kdesu kate to open it... iirc, its in /etc/xorg/xorg.conf01:59
chaoticgeekI think the resolution is too high, but under the configure thingy for kde it wont let me change it01:59
chaoticgeekbut thats for later01:59
KaoticEviloops, /etc/X11/xorg.conf excuse me02:00
KaoticEvilbrodel: its a winmodem?02:00
brodelyep02:00
KaoticEvilfigured so ;)02:01
brodelthat article actually looks like it might be able to help me get it going though. I'm gonna try it.02:01
KaoticEvilgood luck to ya :)02:01
KaoticEvilHobbsee: i would recommend a backup ;)02:01
KaoticEvilhey Hobbsee.. you may be able to help me out... is parted non-destructive?02:01
brodelMaybe I should see about a PCMCIA modem to go in here.02:01
KaoticEvilbrodel: i would02:01
chaoticgeekok well show is recording02:01
Hobbseeyeah, and i cant be bothered going to turn on the other computer to place /home on there02:01
KaoticEvilwould certainly be simpler :P02:01
HobbseeKaoticEvil: parted non-destructive...what would you be thinking of?02:02
KaoticEvilHobbsee: i need to resize my /home02:02
cabajgtrDoes anyone no how to setup wireless in /etc/network/interfaces so that it doesn't wait for wireless to connect before booting?02:02
brodelyeah.. well I'm frugal.. and hell I might learn something by trying this. :)02:02
KaoticEvilbrodel: most likely :)02:02
HobbseeKaoticEvil: you'll have trouble - /home keeps saying it's busy02:02
KaoticEviland lol @ "frugal"02:02
KaoticEvilHobbsee: i noticed that :P02:02
Hobbseeseeing as that was what i was just tyring to do02:02
KaoticEvilLOL02:02
crimsuncabajgtr: comment out the hotplug section in it, and make sure the auto parameter isn't specified for your wireless iface02:02
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KaoticEvilHobbsee: if you find a way to get it done, please.. let me know02:03
KaoticEvilO.O i just got called cutey :O02:04
chaoticgeekthanks for all your help KaoticEvil02:04
HobbseeKaoticEvil: sure, will do - i'll probably try by using the installer cd, and repartitioning off there02:04
Hobbseehehe02:04
cabajgtrshould the definition still be there, just w/o the "auto eth1" line?02:04
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chaoticgeekthanks for your help too kairu002:04
KaoticEvilHobbsee: i was trying to do it without rebooting :P02:04
Hobbseewell, you have to be able to somehow unmount /home02:04
KaoticEvilchaoticgeek: not a problem.. im just glad to be able to help some people in linux...02:04
Hobbseeand sudo umount /home doesnt work either02:05
KaoticEvilHobbsee: affirm... i wonder if init 1 would work..02:05
chaoticgeekwell I'm not exactly new02:05
Hobbseegot no idea02:05
chaoticgeekbut I still dont know much02:05
KaoticEvilHobbsee: do you have root console logins enabled?02:05
chaoticgeekI can compile stuff from source, its fun02:05
HobbseeKaoticEvil: uh...no, but there's sudo -s if i get really desperate02:05
KaoticEvilHobbsee: damn.. lol02:05
Hobbseenever needed to before - it's far easier to screw things up with root, paritcularly in konsole02:06
KaoticEvilHobbsee: root console is so much more fun ;)02:06
Hobbseehehe02:06
Hobbseeso much easier to screw up, too02:06
KaoticEvilim talking an actual term.. before kdm loads ;)02:06
Hobbseerm this in particular?  whoops lol!02:06
Hobbseeoh...no, dont think so02:06
KaoticEviloh, i dont mess about with something unles i have at least a fairly good idea what im doing..02:06
KaoticEvilHobbsee: like rm -R /usr ? :P02:07
Hobbseehehe02:07
Hobbseethat too02:07
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KaoticEvilor chmod -R 000 / :P02:07
KaoticEvilor is it / 000 ?02:07
Hobbseedont know02:07
KaoticEvilone or the other.. i have a yahoo ID named after it :P02:07
Hobbseei've never tried using chmod, except for creating my own java package02:08
Hobbseelol02:08
KaoticEvilive used chown a few times... but never chmod02:08
Hobbseenever used either02:08
KaoticEvili had to...02:08
KaoticEvilsomehow /home/kao got chown to root o_o02:08
Hobbseeeek!02:08
Hobbseelol02:08
brodelbah.. didn't take me long to get stuck on that02:08
KaoticEvilyeah.. that SUCKED!02:08
Hobbseehehe02:09
KaoticEvilwell, it wasnt -R.. just the initial dir02:09
KaoticEvilbut it was chmod 700 too.02:09
Hobbseehehe02:09
KaoticEvili had *no* access to it....02:09
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Hobbsee-R is recursive?02:09
KaoticEvilyup02:09
Hobbsee*nods*02:09
KaoticEvilif you really wanna mess up a system... chown -R root:root / :P02:09
KaoticEvilor 'chmod -R 000 /' thats even better ;)02:10
Hobbseehehehehe02:10
Hobbseewhat's that do?02:10
Hobbseedoesnt let root access root?02:10
KaoticEvilbetter02:11
KaoticEvilit changes permissions on EVERY file/directory to 00002:11
Hobbseehehehehe fun02:11
KaoticEvilnoone has *any* access at all02:11
KaoticEvilstarting in / and going recursively02:11
Hobbseenow that would be fun02:11
djk_and how do you fix it?02:11
KaoticEvilyeah.. i wanna get a job at a place where they run linux servers...02:11
KaoticEvildjk_: no clue lol02:12
Hobbseereinstall would be sounding pretty good lol02:12
KaoticEviland then when i get fired and/or quit, run that command :)02:12
KaoticEvilHobbsee: well, you could 'chmod -R 766 /' or would it be 755 ?02:13
KaoticEvilthen go in and fix all the permissions on a directory wide basis02:13
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Hobbseedont remember what all those numbers mean02:13
KaoticEvilbut youd have to boot froma boot disk02:13
Hobbseetrue02:13
KaoticEvili know 000 is no access to anyone, and 777 if full access to everyone02:13
Hobbseeah right02:14
Hobbseethat's starting to make sense lol02:14
KaoticEvilthe first number is Read, the second is Write, and the 3rd is Execute...02:14
KaoticEviltheres some way of arriving at the proper number, involving owner, user and group.. but i dont recall how.. i knew at one point in time02:14
djk_but there must be a way to fix 000 or not? otherwise 000 wouldn't be a smart option02:15
chaoticgeekI knew this02:15
Hobbseeah...so that's how it works02:15
KaoticEvildjk_: see my few previous posts....02:15
KaoticEvil"[19:13]  <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: well, you could 'chmod -R 766 /' or would it be 755 ?"02:15
brodelbah02:15
brodeldamn winmodems :(02:16
KaoticEvil"[19:13]  <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: well, you could 'chmod -R 766 /' or would it be 755 ?"02:16
KaoticEvildoh!02:16
djk_KaoticEvil: ah..didn't see that..bit too sleepy..02:16
KaoticEvildjk_: ah, lol02:16
KaoticEvilhey.. wow.. shes kinda cute :)02:17
HobbseeKaoticEvil: going in to try and resize /home - will back up first though lol02:17
KaoticEvilHobbsee: from boot cD?02:17
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thrice`hrm...ok02:17
thrice`I am on ubuntu now, and want to install kubuntu02:17
thrice`but, would like to skip straight to kde 3.5 RC1 packs02:18
thrice`is this possible ?02:18
KaoticEvilthrice`: you can install rc1, yes02:18
thrice`KaoticEvil, can I go straight to RC1 by adding a line to sources.list ?02:18
KaoticEvilubotu: tell thrice` about kde3.502:18
KaoticEvilcheck that out thrice`  :)02:18
HobbseeKaoticEvil: nah, breezy installer02:18
thrice`KaoticEvil, awesome02:19
KaoticEvilHobbsee: thats what i meant :P02:19
thrice`KaoticEvil, it'll just grab the most recent packs it finds in sources.list right ?02:19
Hobbseewow, XP takes a long while to boot...02:19
KaoticEvilthrice`: should work, yeah02:19
Hobbseewell, seeing as i plan to install another copy of breezy onto the spare space that i make, it kinda makes sense02:19
djk_what are the admin mode fixes in breezy and which packaged do i have to get?02:19
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djk_packages*02:20
KaoticEvilHobbsee: doh! @ me lol.. good point ;)02:20
thrice`W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508802:20
Hobbseehehe02:20
thrice`=|02:20
Hobbseeyou can ignore it02:20
Hobbsee!kde3.502:20
ubotumethinks kde3.5 is KDE 3.5 Release Candidate 1 is out: http://tinyurl.com/dycgf02:20
Hobbseebut go grab the key from there02:20
thrice`ok02:20
Hobbseeread the instructions on hwo to add it02:20
KaoticEvilthrice`: add the key to your gpg keyring02:20
brodelthis tutorial tells me to do "make" but in my terminal it says command not found02:21
Hobbsee!repos02:21
ubotuI heard repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource02:21
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Hobbseebrodel: sudo apt-get install build-essential02:21
Hobbseehmmm...should do the !'ing privately i suppose02:21
KaoticEvilbeat me to it, Hobbsee ;)02:21
Hobbseehehe02:22
brodelok.. did it.. but uhh what did I do?02:22
KaoticEvilHobbsee: try: ubotu tell <user> about <command> or: /msg ubotu <command> ;)02:22
Hobbseeyeah, did that02:22
KaoticEvillol :P02:22
KaoticEvilbrodel: did what?02:22
brodelI did the command ya told me to02:22
thrice`KaoticEvil, oops, sorry...missed that!02:23
brodeljust wondering what that thing is I'm now installing02:23
thrice`working now02:23
thrice`thanks guys02:23
Hobbseebrodel: it's the tools, like make02:23
thrice`then install kubuntu-desktop should grab it eh?02:23
thrice`easy enough02:23
KaoticEvilbrodel: it installs make and afew other utils02:23
KaoticEvilthrice`: should.. yeah02:23
thrice`=] 02:23
KaoticEvilthrice`: you make have to run an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade02:23
brodelahh ok thanks02:23
brodelbut now make itself is giving me errors hehe02:24
KaoticEvili dont think the kubuntu-desktop has rc1 in it yet02:24
thrice`KaoticEvil, upgrade, even if I don't have any KDE stuff installed right now ?02:24
thrice`er...run upgrade after right ?02:24
KaoticEvilthrice`: after :)02:24
KaoticEvilthrice`:  i dont think the kubuntu-desktop has rc1 in it yet02:24
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thrice`KaoticEvil, ok; just a meta pack I suppose;  I was hoping it would pick out that I had RC1 in sources.list, but upgrade is easy enough02:25
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KaoticEvilthrice`: yeah, kubuntu-desktop is a metapack02:25
KaoticEvilheh @ teh02:26
Hobbseecant spell :P02:27
Hobbseeah well, back after an install for breezy02:28
Hobbseesee you all soon!02:28
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rawtekI am 34 minutes from a clean install of kubuntu, will I like it more than the gnome flavor?02:33
brodelI did.02:33
brodelI switched today from gnome to KDE02:33
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rawtekI have noticed that it seems much more polished02:34
brodelyeah02:34
rawtekI updated apt files for dapper on ubuntu and now I can't get kubuntu-desktop thus a new install02:35
KnowerrorsHey all, just installed qtparted, and it does nothing when I click on the program icon to start it... whats up here?02:35
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kevmanMy WLAN NIC is detected according to dmesg, and ifconfig wlan0 shows something. But ifup wlan0 gives me "Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0"02:36
kevmanDoes this mean the drivers aren't installing correctly?02:36
rawtekdoes the NIC show up in networking gui02:37
Knowerrorsnevermind... Im on Kubuntu, and needed to change gksudo to kdesu in the command... that should be automatic02:37
RiddellKnowerrors: hoary or breezy?02:38
rawtekKnowerrors; I agree02:38
kevmanrawtek, yes.02:38
Knowerrorsbreezy02:38
rawtekand the network shows it as enabled; kevman02:38
djk_what are the admin mode fixes in breezy and which packages do i have to get?02:38
kevmanYes.02:38
Knowerrorsbtw, this is the second or third time this has happened with apps I installed myself from ubu repos on Kubuntu02:39
kevmanWait, not sure.02:39
rawtekwow I am at a loss02:39
chaoticgeekok charmed needs to end02:39
brodel20 more minutes :)02:39
chaoticgeekI wanna go back to linux02:40
chaoticgeekyep02:40
brodelI don't even watch TV.. I'm just guessing it ends at 902:40
KaoticEvilTV?02:40
KaoticEvilwhats that?02:40
kevmanrawtek, no, it says disabled.02:40
brodelIt's what many people schedule their day around so they can be entertained02:40
rawtekkevman; ok should have an enable button02:41
rawtekin ubuntu it does02:41
rawteknot sure about k..switching today02:41
kevmanYes, but I need root access to do it...02:41
rawtekno such thing in kubuntu right?02:41
rawtekhow about sudo ifup wlan002:42
rawtekwhen it asks for root privileges I think it really means your user paswwd, right?02:43
kevmanifup wlan0 gives me "Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0"02:43
kevmanYeah02:43
KaoticEvilbrodel: oh, THAT.. i think i had one of those once.. even watched it.. then i got a computer :P02:43
rawtekit seems to be a driver issue, how did you install the driver02:44
rawtekI only know ndiswrapper, cauz I am a newb02:44
rawtekdriver is a windows term huh, I meanmodulr02:44
rawtekmodule02:44
thrice`damn, dep errors02:45
thrice`!repos02:45
ubotuhmm... repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource02:45
Knowerrorshow do you get Qtparted to format a partition as NTFS? 02:46
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thrice`The following packages have unmet dependencies:02:48
thrice`  k3b: Depends: kdelibs-data (>= 4:3.1.4-2) but it is not going to be installed02:48
thrice`  kdelibs4c2: Depends: kdelibs-data (> 4:3.5-rc1) but it is not going to be installed02:48
thrice`              Depends: kdelibs-data (< 4:3.90) but it is not going to be installed02:48
rawtekkevman; was does if config give02:49
rawtekifconfig02:49
chaoticgeek12 minuets02:49
chaoticgeekminutes*02:49
rawtekand why is it wlan0..that us usually wireless; kevman02:50
RiddellKnowerrors: you can't, you need to get windows to do that02:50
KnowerrorsI have windows... but the ntfs partition with windows got messed up by linux reading it, and now I can't even reinstall windows on it02:50
thrice`The following packages have unmet dependencies:02:51
thrice`  kubuntu-desktop: Depends: ksysguard but it is not going to be installed02:51
thrice`lol, this is confusing02:51
rawtekthrice; does this always happen in kubuntu?  maybe I should stay with ubuntu02:52
thrice`i'm trying to install kubuntu from ubuntu02:52
thrice`with no luck02:52
rawtekare you using dapper repos?02:53
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rawtekthat screwed it up for me02:53
Knowerrorsrawtek: be prepared to "learn" alot to make kubuntu workable, there are far more bugs in it at this point than ubuntu, its just behind the curve02:53
thrice`damn, this sucks!02:54
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rawtekthat is unfortunate it looks really great!02:54
Knowerrorsthrice: youre using wrong repos, looks like they want kde 3.5 stuff02:54
thrice`Knowerrors, yes, but I have commented out 3.5, ran dist-upgrade02:55
Knowerrorsapt-get install kubuntu-desktop should grab KDE 3.4.3 stuff02:55
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thrice`it removed them, now i'm trying to grab 3.4.302:55
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rawtekbut do you still have 3.5 packages installed02:55
thrice`I don't believe so02:55
thrice`is there an easy way to be certain ?02:55
rawteksounds like the dependency tree is jacked02:56
rawtekanyone an apt pro out there02:56
rawtekhow do you clean up a bad tree?02:56
Knowerrorsthrice`: are you installing kde or kubuntu-desktop?02:56
thrice`Knowerrors, I was trying kubuntu02:57
thrice`though all I really want is kde 3.5 RC!02:57
thrice`102:57
kevmanrawtek, ifconfig doesn't mention wlan0. But ifconfig wlan0 does.02:57
rawtekkevman; I am confused are you using a wireless nic?02:57
kevmanYes.02:58
rawtekthrice we need to get your dependency tree cleaned uo02:58
rawtekup02:58
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thrice`hrm02:58
rawtekkevman; how did you install the driver02:58
kevmanPLugged the device in.02:59
thrice`Knowerrors, apt-get install kde doesn't work either02:59
thrice`kde: Depends: kde-core but it is not going to be installed02:59
thrice`why is that?02:59
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kevmanapt-get install kubuntu is how you install KDE.02:59
rawtekkevman; are you using a windows or linux driver02:59
Hobbseehey all again!02:59
kevmanLinux.02:59
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thrice`no, not kubuntu03:00
HobbseeKaoticEvil: works brilliantly changing by the installer cd03:00
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bnDanyone here used or is using squid proxy? i cant seem to allow access to ANY url from local machine pls help03:00
rawteklsmod shows that it is loaded 03:00
rawtekthe driver that is03:01
KaoticEvilHobbsee: cool... non-destructive using parted?03:01
kevmanat76_usbdfu  03:01
kevmanYes.03:01
rawtekwhat does iwconfig give you03:02
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HobbseeKaoticEvil: not sure about the non destructive - only just got to a GUI - this is irssi here03:03
KaoticEviloh, ok03:03
Hobbseeit detected the already existing breezy, and XP fine though03:04
Hobbseemodified the menu.lst for grub - to make it readable lol!03:04
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jesusfishhow come apt isn't picking up the new kde 3.5 packages?03:07
jesusfishI have the right line in sources.list03:07
jesusfishoh03:08
jesusfishnm03:08
jesusfishapprently they changed the new item on kubntu.org03:08
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chaoticgeekhello all03:15
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chaoticgeekback under kubuntu03:15
Hobbsee:)03:15
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Hobbseenalioth_zZz: thank goodness i know how to use irssi lol!  Otherwise i'd be very, very bored03:16
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Hobbsee!java03:17
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs03:17
Hobbsee!javadeb03:17
ubotuI don't know, Hobbsee03:17
Hobbseeargh!  the debs are down!  that's right!03:17
chaoticgeekmy screen is a lil bouncy03:18
chaoticgeekits annoying03:18
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_brian!w32codecs03:21
ubotuI heard w32codecs is for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/03:21
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Hobbseeshoot..03:22
KaoticEvilbang03:23
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Hobbseelol03:23
Hobbseeum03:23
Hobbseehow does one go about creating a new user, then editing them to the sudo list?03:23
jsubl2kcontrol has a users area i believe.  then man sudoers03:24
Hobbseeno kcontrol - terminal only03:24
Hobbseegrrr...cant believe i did this03:25
jsubl2adduser03:25
KaoticEvilHobbsee: you still stuckin terminal?03:25
HobbseeKaoticEvil: well, i copied all my data (ie. the entire /home) from my backup, adn now it wont let me login03:25
Hobbseesays...03:25
KaoticEviluh oh03:25
jsubl2oh its visudo03:26
Hobbseecould not read ~/DCOPserver_Sarah__003:26
KaoticEvilHobbsee: can you remove it?03:26
Hobbseei'll try03:26
Hobbseeno, same error03:27
KaoticEvildamn.. that sucks :(03:27
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Hobbsee*sighs03:27
KaoticEvillol03:27
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KaoticEvillol03:28
chaoticgeekhey KaoticEvil 03:28
KaoticEvilyeah?03:29
chaoticgeekhi03:29
jsubl2move your home dir to a safe place so you can get X back.  then move things over slowly like start with .kde dir03:29
chaoticgeekback on kubuntu03:29
KaoticEvilcool :)03:29
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Hobbseejsubl2: move which?  i've already got a full backup of it - can i just remove the entire thing, so it regenerates?03:30
Hobbseewill it regenerate?03:30
chaoticgeekI'll be back03:30
Hobbseegrr...root logins not allowed03:30
KaoticEvilHobbsee: yes they are ;)03:31
KaoticEvilif you do it right03:31
KaoticEvilbut not from kdm03:31
HobbseeKaoticEvil: how?  in the GUI, i already have root enabled in console03:31
Hobbseeah...yes...03:31
jsubl2mv hobbsee save; mkdir hobbsee; cp -rf save/.kde hobbsee etc........03:31
Hobbseelet me try...03:31
KaoticEvilthere ya go ;)03:31
jsubl2oh and make sure you own the new dir03:31
Hobbseedarm03:32
Hobbsee*darn03:32
Hobbseestartx wont work03:32
KaoticEvilerrors?03:32
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Hobbseeserver already active for display003:33
KaoticEvilHobbsee: pidof kdm ;) then kill it03:33
jsubl2ctrl alt f703:33
Hobbseebingo03:33
Hobbseeor just select console login, then try startx again03:33
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ealmare there any debs of koffice 1.5 alpha yet? (I badly need some of the features in Kexi 1.5)03:33
KaoticEvilyeah, that works too :)03:33
Hobbseenow, can i delete the user sarah, and recreate her?03:34
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chaoticgeekback03:35
chaoticgeekscreen is better03:35
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Hobbseehey kkathman!03:37
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Hobbseeright, created a new user03:37
Hobbseeah...now how do i start kdm again?03:38
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chaoticgeekI love linux03:39
chaoticgeekits been so long since I had a linux box up and running03:39
jsubl2vi .xinitrc -- startkde -- then xinit03:39
jsubl2put startkde inthe .xinitrc file03:40
jsubl2how come kdm is not running03:40
Hobbseeright03:40
Hobbseeah, cos i logged out of it03:40
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Hobbseeie, got rid of kdm to go to a console login, went in as root (was very careful with my mouse!), then logged out after creating a couple of users03:41
Hobbseelogs in now, having removed all those files, except the 2 original ones03:41
chaoticgeekdo you guys use firefox or the kde one03:41
chaoticgeekwhat ever its called03:41
jsubl2i use firefox03:42
KaoticEvilchaoticgeek: konqueror03:43
Hobbseefirefox here, or lynx03:43
chaoticgeekCan you get all the plugins that you could get for firefox?03:43
KaoticEvilchaoticgeek: ive not had a problem...03:43
jsubl2i only use the mplayer plugin03:43
KaoticEvilit uses Fx plugins03:44
chaoticgeekoh03:44
KaoticEvilchaoticgeek: Fx is Firefox ;)03:44
chaoticgeekthen I guess I'll use that03:44
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chaoticgeekya03:44
Hobbseetempramental thing...03:44
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chaoticgeekI'll just go and get all that working03:44
darksoulhow much ram sould you have to run games like counter strike source on wine?03:45
chaoticgeek512 to 1 gig03:45
chaoticgeekoh w/ wine03:45
darksouldamn..no wonder it lags..lol03:45
chaoticgeekI have never used wine03:45
chaoticgeekas much as you can get03:45
darksoulmy main box has 384mb ram03:45
darksoulmy server box has 1034mb ram03:45
darksoulbut the gui wouldent work on it so...meh03:46
jsubl2chaoticgeek, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxTipsAndTricks03:46
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darksoulits weird.. the gui wouldent work no matter what i tried..and all i got working is server only mode..it couldent complie from what i figured out...maby i sould just try it with the new breezy install lol03:47
chaoticgeekI know firefox tips and tricks03:47
darksoulwow...to long sorry.03:47
chaoticgeekI've tweaked it in windows03:47
darksoulwhen will they make somthing free to run windows programs/games JUST right..i mean wine is great and all but its...slow..03:48
chaoticgeekbut I do like Konqueror but its built in and I do like it03:48
chaoticgeekits pretty nice03:48
chaoticgeekhave you tried vmware, its still beta, but it was nice under windows?03:49
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darksoulhey, if i want to uninstall windows, were do i go lol.03:49
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chaoticgeekyou could format it03:50
darksoulmy windows os...is very currupted and has rootkit..03:50
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darksoulno i dont want to do that, i just need to edit the partions...i just dont know were03:50
Hobbseedarksoul: you on linux now?03:50
chaoticgeekSony?03:50
darksoulyes03:50
chaoticgeeklol03:50
LeeJunFandarksoul: they are trying, that's wine. Whe something works with wine it's usually as fast or faster than running in windows native. You could try cedega which is a commercial version of wine, but vmware wont' work for games, it doesn't support 3d, plus it's a lot slower because it emulates a whole computer.03:50
Hobbseegparted03:50
chaoticgeekI was joking about that03:50
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darksoulLeeJunFan: well counterstrike source was slow, and i only got 382mb ram on this box, the linux gui wont work on my box with 1024mb ram03:51
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Hobbseethanks KaoticEvil :)03:51
Hobbseehavent even gone up to breezy yet!03:51
KaoticEvilalways :)03:51
chaoticgeeksony is evil03:52
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darksoulLeeJunFan: it also took me about 9 hours to download css...even thou i have 8mb download..03:52
Hobbseeprobably should check at some point that the breezy original still works though03:52
KaoticEvilLOL03:52
adrian_hI'm running Kubuntu Breezy, and every so often (like when I type very quickly), the keyboard jumps to a different place in the document -- or sometimes it even toggles which app I'm on. This happens in any KDE app -- Kate, Konsole, Konversation, etc. Any ideas?03:52
Hobbseeit should do03:52
HobbseeKaoticEvil: grub found it, and made a menu entry for it03:52
LeeJunFanadrian_h: laptop?03:52
darksouladrian_h: are you sure its not your keyboard...i have had tons of problems with keyboards before...no matter what03:52
adrian_hLeeJunFan: Yes, laptop.03:52
LeeJunFanadrian_h: your touchpad is too sensitive :)03:53
adrian_hLeeJunFan: This never happened up until I upgraded to Breezy.03:53
LeeJunFanadrian_h: you probably need to adjust synaptics settings.03:53
soundmaster80is there a way to convert debian packages to ubuntu compatible03:53
darksouladrian_h: how did you upgrade? did you install off the cd, or did you type sudo apt-get upgrade03:54
adrian_hLeeJunFan: How would I go about doing that?03:54
adrian_hdarksoul: I did an "apt-get dist-upgrade"03:54
LeeJunFanadrian_h: new kernel probably == new driver tweaks for your touchpad or something.03:54
chaoticgeekbrb03:54
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darksouladrian_h: thats a big no no, i had to reinstall twice and every time gui failed, i finnaly just downloaded kubuntu breezy iso installed on my cd, and did a fresh install, now its working very good.03:55
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Hobbseedarksoul: dist upgrades can work, i'm about to do one03:55
jsubl2adrian_h, might try reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowto03:55
LeeJunFanadrian_h: I was going to say to install synaptics, but it looks like it has been replaced by tpconfig, so install that I guess.03:55
darksoulHobbsee: yea they can..but theres tons of problems almost always, trust me, download the new iso03:56
adrian_hdarksoul: That's interesting...I thought one of the main advantages of apt-get was to make transitions between releases simple03:56
soundmaster80anyone have an answer?...is there a way to make debian packages compatible with ubuntu?03:56
Hobbseedarksoul: i usually do - i did for breezy03:56
darksouladrian_h: it is, but i dont know what happened with me, all i know is i couldent get on the gui anymore and was stuck on console..like in server only mode03:56
Hobbseei've seen how it screws up before lol03:56
Hobbseeeven worse than how this is currently screwing up03:56
soundmaster80i know they are both .deb but i am running into more and more compatibility issues03:56
LeeJunFanadrian_h: and it doesn't seem to have any config for sensitivity. that's lame.03:57
darksoulHobbsee: i did to, and i had to reinstall twice before i learned to download the iso03:57
bnDcan someone help me out with chown?03:57
bnDie: how to check and how to set ownership?03:57
bnD:/03:57
LeeJunFanbnD: open a konsole and type 'man chown'03:58
bnDyea, thanks ;P03:58
darksoulim sure it will work on some systems, but it majorly messed up with mine, it also screwed up X server, and my desplay...i couldent even see console after that, just a big blue screen with mixed up words, and errors03:58
LeeJunFanbnD: and 'man ls'  --- basically ls -l will show you permissions.03:58
chaoticgeekback03:58
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darksoul..03:58
darksoulwtf03:59
Hobbseedarksoul: dont remind me of that lol...done it twice too03:59
darksoulwhy cant i delete partion one..03:59
Hobbseedarksoul: is it mounted?03:59
darksoulA busy device with at least one mounted partion..03:59
darksoulyea i guess..03:59
darksoulbut im not on that partion03:59
adrian_hLeeJunFan: Are you sure tpconfig handles keyboard sensitivity, and not just touchpad sensitivity?03:59
Hobbseeumount /dev/hda103:59
darksoulwindows is03:59
LeeJunFanthat shouldn't matter to fdisk.03:59
chaoticgeekhey KaoticEvil how does one get Konqueror to use the plugins?03:59
Hobbseeyou cant delete windows with fdisk...assuming you mean windows fdisk...03:59
darksoulwtf..03:59
Hobbseeand not the fdisk command in linux03:59
darksoulwhy is it unallocated now..but it just gave me at error sign *sigh*03:59
LeeJunFanadrian_h: no it's for touchpad, my guess is what's happening is your touchpad is picking up your hand over it and moving your cursor in the middle of typing something to where the mouse pointer is, I've had it happen before.04:00
adrian_hLeeJunFan: Ahhhh, that would make sense.04:00
darksoulim just getting fdisk..04:00
LeeJunFanbut I don't see where it sets sensitivity.04:00
darksoulscrew Gparted04:00
KaoticEvilchakie: its in the Preferences...04:00
KaoticEvilchaoticgeek: even..04:00
chaoticgeeklol04:00
LeeJunFangparted is for rescuing partitions, not erasing them.04:00
chaoticgeekI understood04:00
KaoticEvilscroll down to Pugins.. Settings -> Configure Konqueror04:01
darksoul  util-linux04:01
darksoulE: Package fdisk has no installation candidate04:01
darksouldarksoul@darksoulsserver:~$04:01
darksoulE: Package fdisk has no installation candidate04:01
darksouldarksoul@darksoulsserver:~$04:01
darksoulE: Package fdisk has no installation candidate04:01
LeeJunFanfdisk should be installed by default.04:01
chaoticgeekhumm...04:02
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darksouloh..04:02
darksoulits here i think disk and filesystems --system settings right04:02
chaoticgeekI want to give konq a try04:02
LeeJunFandarksoul: as should cfdisk which is ncurses based.04:02
chaoticgeekSo I can go install the plugins manualy now and just do the scan for new plugins right04:03
LeeJunFanadrian_h: there's a package called ksynaptics for configuring your touchpad :)04:04
adrian_hLeeJunFan: Very cool. I'll check it out. Thanks!04:04
adrian_hLeeJunFan: Can I be moderately sure that my touchpad was manufactured by Synaptics, or does ksynaptics work for any touchpad?04:05
darksoulalright, i got that partion cleared...now how do i add the space to my linux partion04:05
darksoulin gparted04:06
LeeJunFanit's very likely synaptics.04:06
adrian_hLeeJunFan: All right04:06
LeeJunFanI just installed it - even has a feature "disable touchpad while typing"04:06
LeeJunFanWhy this wouldn't be part of kde main I don't know.04:06
adrian_hLeeJunFan: Oooh04:06
darksoulany ideas?04:06
LeeJunFanktouchpad does alps too, so no matter what you have should be good.04:07
adrian_hLeeJunFan: Where does it install to?04:07
adrian_hLeeJunFan: i.e., how do I run it?04:07
LeeJunFanin your kde control center.04:07
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LeeJunFankcontrol under peripherals.04:08
adrian_hLeeJunFan: Ah, got it. Thanks.04:08
darksoul*sigh* how do i add more space to my lunux partion..out of a unallocated partion on gparted04:08
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richardI've had problems getting Kubuntu to work properly with my Wifi card. The software didn't work and seemed flawed. (Currently running Mepis for KDE and Ubuntu for Gnome. ) Did any of the bugs with the control panel get fixed? 04:13
richardSeems some of the buttons in administrator mode locked up and wouldn;t set properly when they were selected. 04:14
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brodelis there a logfile or anything I can look at to see why the ntp update is failing at boot?04:15
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fyrmedicanyone able to tell me where to find libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 , I tried adept with no luck and have tried a couple of web searches also04:18
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fyrmedic.04:19
KaoticEvilwhat switch can i add to ifconfig to just get eth0 information?04:19
LathiatKaoticEvil: ifconfig eth004:19
snakeHey can anyone help me out?04:19
KaoticEvilty lath04:19
Lathiatfyrmedic: sounds like a bad soname04:19
Lathiatfyrmedic: can you compile the program that wants it from sourc04:20
Lathiate04:20
Lathiatif so, that may help04:20
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snakeI'm trying to use kopete, and everytime I log in, all my buddys have 2 names on my buddy list, but only one sends what I type to them04:20
snakeAnyone know a fix? It also keeps crashing04:20
fyrmedicLathiat: I am way to new to try compiling something myself04:20
KaoticEvilerr.. not ifconfig.. 04:22
KaoticEvilwhat can i add to netstat to show only eth0 connections?04:22
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kubuntu_guygud morning04:31
Hobbseeargh...dare i reboot?04:32
KaoticEvildare dare :P04:33
Hobbseeguess i'll have to04:34
Hobbseelol04:35
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chaoticgeekomg why is nugget taken04:49
chaoticgeekthat is so stupid04:49
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troychaotic_geek: freenode is a pretty old network, lots of traffic - all the good nicks are taken - people try to take mine all the time :)04:54
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kkathmanevening all04:57
Hobbseeevening kkathman 04:58
kkathmanhi Hobbsee  :)04:59
Hobbseekkathman: i'm beginning to think i like living on the bleeding edge - and am getting very used to the console!04:59
kkathmanwell thats sounds good05:00
Hobbseehehe05:00
kkathmanyou are much more adept (no pun intended) than I05:00
Hobbseedapper on a spare partition, rc105:00
Hobbseehehe...and know how to use irssi for when it all screws up05:00
Hobbseehavent rebooted back there yet05:00
kkathmanI have been convinced over the last week and I know nothing about any of this so I'm just sitting back and listening from now on :)05:00
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Hobbseehehe05:01
Hobbseeyou learn pretty quick05:01
Hobbseei learn pretty quick!05:01
kkathmangood for you :)05:01
kkathmanalways a good trait :)05:02
Hobbseehehe05:02
Hobbseedefinetly05:02
Hobbseestartx works wonders05:02
Hobbseealthough i still shudder at having to log in as root05:02
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Hobbseebah05:03
Hobbseethat's why i tripple boot05:03
kkathmanI leave all the excitement to all you youngsters05:03
Hobbseehehe05:04
Hobbseeactually, it picked up the tripple boot just fine05:04
Hobbseegrub picked it up at install - xp, a copy of breezy, and th eone it was installing05:04
kkathmantriple booting seems to be about 2 more than I can stand05:04
Hobbseehehe05:05
kkathmanthats why I never shut down my system05:05
Hobbseehavent booted to xp in a while though05:05
kkathmanseparate systems work wonders05:05
Hobbseebah...05:05
Hobbseeonly one laptop here05:06
kkathmanI think I might like to get a sound card for my Linux box tho05:06
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kkathmanI dont know if it would make any difference tho05:06
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glitchquick q - I'm using firefox + thunderbird on 5.1005:07
Hobbseeyep?05:07
glitchand when I click a link in thunderbird05:07
glitchit doesn't open in firefox05:07
Hobbseeah, it doesnt open in firefox05:07
glitchprobably should have googled this05:07
glitchlol05:07
Hobbseeglitch: search on ubuntuforums.org - asiyu's written a great post on how to fix it05:08
glitchawesome, thanks05:08
Hobbseeit's 2 lines that you stick in user.js05:08
kkathmanI think you can set that easily05:08
Hobbseeno problems - i use it too05:08
kkathmanin Systems Settings05:08
glitchhow weird. Are those packages in universe or multiverse?05:08
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jsubl2glitch, man update-alternatives05:08
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kkathmanglitch:  If you do an alt-f2, then type kcontrol, then click on KDE Components, then Component Chooser. Then choose web browser and put firefox in that box05:11
glitchI actually did tht in component chooser05:11
glitchbut it still doesn't seem to work05:11
kkathmanyep thats what I did05:11
glitchtrying the user.js fix now05:11
kkathmanoh. well see I dont know anything anyway :)05:11
kkathmanhehe05:11
jsubl2thunderbird does not use that05:12
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jsubl2thunderbird probably uses what /etc/alternatives/www-browser is pointing to05:12
jsubl2ls -l /etc/alternatives/www-browser05:12
kkathmanothers are right, I need not to talk :)05:13
kkathmanback to -offtopic :)05:13
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glitchaww05:14
Hobbseejsubl2: no, that is the fix for thunderbird...05:14
glitchit was a good try kkathman05:14
jsubl2Hobbsee, ? need more info to follow you05:15
Hobbseewhere i pointed glitch to, assuming he found the right file05:16
Hobbsee*topic05:16
jsubl2oic05:16
Hobbseebecause i've tried it, and it solved the issue05:16
jsubl2and it did not include running update-alternatives05:16
Hobbseenope05:17
Hobbseelet me go find the one i was thinking of05:17
glitchthis one05:17
glitchhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51186&highlight=firefox+thunderbird+link+user.js05:17
glitch?05:17
sambagirlfuzzy clock is very neat05:18
jsubl2Hobbsee, thanks  for correcting me.. page bookmarked05:18
Hobbseehttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6042705:18
Hobbseeyep05:18
Hobbseeno problems :)05:18
Hobbseeglitch: this one http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427 05:19
Hobbseethat is the one that i've tried, and works05:19
glitchgotcha05:20
glitchdid it with the one above / user.js files05:20
glitchworking like a charm05:20
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Hobbsee:)05:21
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[linner] hey y'all05:27
Hobbseehey [linner]  05:27
[linner] has anyone installed Skype for debian05:27
[linner] hey Hobbsee 05:27
[linner] ;)05:27
Hobbsee!skype05:27
ubotuI guess skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl05:27
glitchthere's skype for debian?05:27
[linner] glitch:  yes05:28
glitchhmmm05:28
glitchinteresting :)05:28
[linner] just downloaded it05:28
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[linner] http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb05:28
sambagirli changed my desktop to 800x600 from 1024x768 but xchat still is small, i must close applications for change to reflect?05:28
[linner] glitch:  that's for you05:28
glitchlinner: thanks - I'll check it out05:29
[linner] glitch:  no problem :)05:30
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darksoulhow do you mount new partions?05:33
Hobbsee!mount05:33
ubotumethinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives05:33
darksoulthanks05:34
Hobbseeno problems05:34
[linner] Hobbsee:  how are you doing?05:34
darksoulgood05:34
Hobbsee[linner] : good, tripple booting yet, havent booted back into dapper yet05:34
[linner] oh wow... triple boot???05:35
[linner] never heard of that... I'm impressed05:35
darksoulerr im not installing a new hdd..just a new partion05:35
Hobbsee[linner] : xp, breezy, dapper05:35
darksoulbreezy05:35
Hobbsee[linner] : grub configures it fine, just install linux last05:35
[linner] forgive me... what is dapper?05:35
Hobbseeeither one of them05:36
Hobbsee!dapper05:36
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release.05:36
glitch!dapper05:36
glitchheh05:36
glitchokay05:36
darksoul!dapper05:36
glitchwhat's the whole !word thing05:36
[linner] unbelievable05:36
[linner] it launches the definition or info from the bot 05:36
Hobbsee!bot05:36
ubotuI'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to hobbsee? I think not. Bot, shot, chicken... rhyming sucks.05:36
glitchahh05:36
Hobbseevery useful05:36
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darksoulhow do i add a partion to media?..i made one i just have to add it05:38
Hobbseedarksoul: what type of partition?  ext3?  ntfs?05:38
darksoulits currently ext305:38
darksoulbut whats the best for a custom made partion05:39
Hobbseewhere do you want to mount it?05:39
darksoulin media:/05:39
Hobbseeas in, media/foldername05:39
darksoulyea05:39
darksoulas in like a hdd really...but anything will do05:39
Hobbseedarksoul: sudo mkdir /media/foldername05:40
Hobbseekdesu kwrite /etc/fstab05:40
Hobbseeoh yeah, and which partition is it?  which number?05:40
darksoulnumber 105:41
Hobbseedarksoul: does sudo fdisk -l tell you that?05:41
darksoulNew Partion #105:41
Hobbseehda1 or hdc1?05:41
darksoullet me check05:41
Hobbseego for it, you'll need that info05:41
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darksoul...05:41
darksoulit doesnt show05:41
Hobbseepaste your "sudo fdisk -l"05:42
Hobbsee!pastebin05:42
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:42
darksoulhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4515] 05:43
darksoulhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/451505:43
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Hobbseegood, got that working05:43
darksoulno..05:44
darksoulits not listed there05:44
Hobbsee:) i now see all the partitoins of my drive05:44
darksoulthe one i want to mount is 250mb, im going to encrypt it when i find out how05:44
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darksoulhow do i mount it in media:/05:44
Hobbseehmmm...05:44
darksoulhmm05:45
darksoulah there we go05:45
Hobbseehang on, teh one you want to mount, that's a new hard disk, or a new partition on the current hard disk?05:45
darksoulnew partion on current harddisk05:45
darksoulanyway its/dev/hda105:46
darksoulso what do i do?05:46
Hobbseedarksoul: cd /dev/hda105:46
chaoticgeekhello all05:46
darksoulnot a directory05:46
Hobbseeoops, hang on05:47
Hobbseemount05:47
Hobbseepaste to paste bin05:47
Hobbseeas in, type mount, and paste the error to the pastebin05:47
darksoulhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/451605:48
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darksoulhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/451605:49
Hobbseeyeah, i saw, looking at it05:50
darksoulk05:50
Hobbseehave you actually created a partition with that free space?05:50
darksoulyea05:50
darksouli had to delete windows so i had to put some of the space to use..05:50
darksoulthats going to be my encrypted partion05:50
darksoulmy other one will be like 30gb05:50
Hobbseeyep, right - so after you deleted windows, what did you do with that (now free) space?05:51
darksoulits unallocated05:51
Hobbseesorry to seem so simple here, but there's gotta be a simple reason for this05:51
Hobbseeah05:51
Hobbseewell there's your problme05:51
darksoulno i have unallocated, and then the new partion i just made05:51
Hobbseedarksoul: do you have gparted on there?05:52
darksoulthats what im using05:52
Hobbseeright05:52
Hobbseeyou've hit apply?05:52
darksoulyesd05:52
darksoulit also shows on it05:52
Hobbseeand teh command that you sent is after you hit apply?05:53
darksoulyes05:53
Hobbseethe sudo fdisk -l, that is05:53
Hobbseehmmm....05:53
Hobbseeis gparted open now?05:53
darksoulyes05:53
darksoulone sec05:53
Hobbseek05:54
darksoulhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/451705:54
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darksoulthat help?05:55
Hobbseeah, now there we go!05:55
Hobbseeyes05:55
Hobbseeok, did you do the "mkdir /media/foldername"?05:56
darksoulnope05:56
darksoullol05:56
chaoticgeekarg05:56
Hobbseeok05:56
Hobbseepick a foldername05:56
chaoticgeekkonversation is not connecting to dalnet for me05:57
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darksoulso it would be /media/hda1 right05:57
Hobbseesudo mkdir /media/hda105:57
Hobbseeyeah, if you want the folder to be called hda105:57
darksouldone05:57
Hobbseeyou can call it windows, fish, penguin, whatever you like it - it doesnt really matter05:57
Hobbseeok05:57
Hobbseekdesu kwrite /etc/fstab05:57
Hobbsee /dev/hda1       /media/hda1   ext3    defaults        0       205:58
darksoulcommand not found05:58
Hobbseeadd that line to the end of it, hit enter once, and save it05:58
darksoulit said command not found05:58
Hobbseewhich command not found?05:58
darksoullet me try somthing else05:58
darksoulomg i spelled it wron lol05:58
Hobbseekdesu kate /etc/fstab05:58
Hobbseelol05:58
Hobbseeeither will work05:58
thanatosI have a faulty router, I need DHCP to get an IP address from an outside DNS, but when I change the DNS, when I reset my comp, it changes back to the default: my faulty router.  can anyone help?05:59
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darksoulok now..05:59
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chaoticgeekok what is kdesu?05:59
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chaoticgeekwell I understand it05:59
chaoticgeekbut where is it?05:59
Hobbsee!tell chaoticgeek about root05:59
darksoulwhat do i type in when i got the folder up06:00
Hobbsee /dev/hda1       /media/hda1   ext3    defaults        0       206:00
chaoticgeekI know about root06:00
Hobbseechaoticgeek: go read the end of that page, it has a bit about kdesu06:00
chaoticgeekdo I type it in the terminal? if so why not sudo?06:00
darksoulk done06:00
darksoulnow what06:00
Hobbseedarksoul: save it06:01
darksouldid06:01
Hobbseeok, close kwrite06:01
darksoulk06:01
Hobbsee"sudo mount -a"06:01
Hobbseechaoticgeek: read the root page in the wiki - kdesu is the sudo for GUI apps - it explains it pretty well06:01
darksoulcommand not found06:01
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darksoulbash: sudo mount -a06:01
thanatosplease help06:02
Hobbseejust typing sudo mount -a?  that command should definetly work in a shell06:02
darksoulyea it works06:02
darksoul[mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab06:02
Hobbseeah, "kdesu kwrite /etc/fstab06:03
Hobbsee"06:03
Hobbseego to the very bottom of it, at the end of the last line06:03
Hobbseehit enter/return, save, sudo mount -a06:03
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Hobbseethanatos: about what?06:03
darksoulHobbsee: k that works06:03
thanatosI have a faulty router, I need DHCP to get an IP address from an outside DNS, but when I change the DNS, when I reset my comp, it changes back to the default: my faulty router.  can anyone help?06:03
Hobbseedarksoul: excellent :)06:03
darksoulnow..06:03
Hobbseedarksoul: in a shell cd /media/hda106:04
Hobbseedarksoul: ls06:04
Hobbseeshow you any files?06:04
darksoullost+found06:04
Hobbseecool06:05
Hobbseetry creating a file on there if you want06:05
darksoulk06:05
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Hobbseeguess you might have to chown it...not sure06:05
darksouldenied..06:05
Hobbseeyeah06:05
Hobbsee!chown06:05
ubotuit has been said that chown is a command used to change the owner of a file or folder, see `man chown` for details06:05
Hobbsee!man chown06:05
ubotuNot a clue, Hobbsee06:05
Hobbseeright06:05
Hobbseelets see...06:05
Hobbseethis is where we need kkathman back in here, who is good with this stuff06:06
darksoul..06:06
darksoulcant i just chmod it06:06
Hobbseewhichever the correct one is, yeah06:06
darksoulgrrr06:07
darksouldidint work06:07
Hobbseewhat?06:07
darksoulnot premitted..06:07
thanatosHobbsee: I have a faulty router, I need DHCP to get an IP address from an outside DNS, but when I change the DNS, when I reset my comp, it changes back to the default: my faulty router.  can anyone help?06:07
Hobbseethanatos: no clue, sorry06:07
Hobbseedarksoul: getting more info from kkathman06:08
darksoulk06:08
Hobbsee!chown06:09
uboturumour has it, chown is a command used to change the owner of a file or folder, see `man chown` for details06:09
Hobbseeall right, someone shoot kkathman for being a pain lol06:09
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Hobbseeright, anyone else here know about chmod?06:10
chaoticgeekok, so I guess I dont have permissions huh06:10
chaoticgeekI click the admin mode button and input my password but I cant change anything06:10
Hobbseechaoticgeek: /topic06:11
darksouli think i know what to do..06:11
darksoulwhat was that command to wright in that file?06:11
Hobbseechown or chmod?06:12
Hobbseeone of them06:12
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darksoulwtf is pass for06:12
darksoulwhy wont admin mode work06:14
darksoul...it wont let me login to system settings..06:15
Hobbseedarksoul: its' a bug06:15
Hobbseedarksoul: /topic06:15
darksoulomg..06:15
darksoulis it fixed yet06:16
darksoulcouse i REALLY need it..i think thats were i can change ownership06:16
Hobbseeyou can change ownership via command line06:16
darksoulnope06:16
KaoticEvilwhat aobut chmod?06:16
darksouli dont know what it is06:16
darksoulchmod only made it so i cant make files06:16
darksoulwell i never could..but it took away the button06:16
Hobbseedarksoul: sudo chown user.user <directory>06:17
darksoulwhat chmod do i need to use06:17
darksoul77706:17
darksoul*sigh* what do i type in06:18
darksoulthis media/hda106:18
Hobbseedarksoul: sudo chown user.user /media/hda106:19
Hobbseewith user being your username06:19
darksoulwell..it didint work06:19
darksoulor it did..06:19
darksouli just cant view it06:19
Hobbseesudo mount -a06:20
darksoulwhat is that supposed to do..06:20
darksoulit did nothing06:20
Hobbseecheck in konq, who now owns it06:21
darksouldarksoul06:21
darksoul+06:21
darksoulit does make the files06:21
darksouli just cant VIEW them06:21
darksoulits only if i type em in that it even tells me its there06:21
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darksoulwhat if i remount it06:22
Hobbseecould try06:22
darksoulso what would i do lol06:23
darksoulNOW its working06:24
darksoulHobbsee: now how would i encrypt it?06:25
Hobbsee!encrypt06:25
ubotuNo idea, Hobbsee06:25
Hobbseesame as ubotu lol06:25
darksoulLOL06:25
darksoulthe bot doesnt know anything06:25
darksoulare we truly the only ones talking here?06:25
Hobbsee#kubuntu's quieter than #ubuntu, but it's quiet here today, yes06:26
darksoulwhy dont you like ubuntu?06:26
darksoul(gnome)06:26
chaoticgeekahhhhh06:26
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chaoticgeekI still cant get it so I have the right permissions06:27
Hobbseedont like gnome, i'm part of both06:27
Hobbseechaoticgeek: what do you want to change the permissions of, and what to?06:27
darksouli like both..but gnome seriously needs a redo06:27
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darksoul...the premissions are fine..06:27
darksouli want a password on it now06:27
chaoticgeekI tried clicking on the admin mode  button and typed in my password and I still cant change anything06:27
darksoulwhich i hope is possibe..since i read about it on fourms somwere06:27
darksoulchaoticgeek: get a better router06:28
Hobbseechaoticgeek: if you use kdesu system settings, does that work?06:28
darksoultopics:/06:28
darksoultopics06:29
darksoultopics/06:29
chaoticgeekget a better router?06:29
darksoulyou have to be able to encrypt partions06:31
darksoulsince i encrypted my entire hdd on windows a year ago06:31
kubuntu_guywat username should I use webmin?06:35
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Hobbseedarksoul: i'm sure you can, tried searching on ubuntuforums.org?06:36
Hobbseeor ask in #ubuntu06:36
Hobbseei dont know everything06:36
darksouljoin #ubuntu06:36
darksoul*sigh*06:37
True_Chaos|Laptohey, is there a way to check what version of kubuntu im running?  Im sure its simple, but I seem to have forgotten :(06:37
chaoticgeekok06:37
chaoticgeeknow I went and did the update manager and it came up w/ KDEsu and took my password06:38
chaoticgeekbut I went into Preferences>Internet&Network>Network Settings06:38
chaoticgeekand I clicked the Administrator mode at the bottom and it came up with KDEsu and I put in my password and it would not let me change anything06:39
True_Chaos|Laptoanyone?06:39
chaoticgeekExcept I can create new Network Profiles under the Network Profile tab06:40
chaoticgeekok... now under the Users & Groups I can make changes after I click administrator mode06:41
Hobbseechaoticgeek: now, i didnt say this, but i think the only solution is to log in as root, and go from there06:41
chaoticgeekI'm so confused06:42
chaoticgeeknow I can change stuff 06:42
KaoticEvilLOL06:42
Hobbseeok then06:42
KaoticEvilchaoticgeek: try: kdesu kcontrol06:42
True_Chaos|Laptoanyone?  can you guys see what im typing?06:42
chaoticgeeknow I can do anything06:43
KaoticEvilTrue_Chaos|Lapto: whats up?06:43
chaoticgeekwhat changed?06:43
chaoticgeekit all works now so I'm happy thanks for the help Hobbsee 06:43
Hobbsee:) no problems06:43
True_Chaos|LaptoIm trying to figure out which version of kubuntu im running -- Im sure its a simple command, but I seem to have forgotten how :P06:43
chaoticgeekmaybe I had to update?06:43
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KaoticEvilTrue_Chaos|Lapto: its on the login screen...06:43
chaoticgeekI just downloaded the DVD iso friday though so it should not be old06:43
True_Chaos|LaptoKaoticEvil, I havent rebooted this machine in a month or so ;)06:44
KaoticEvilTrue_Chaos|Lapto: no need to reboot.. 06:44
KaoticEviljust logout06:44
KaoticEvil;)06:44
KaoticEvilfor that matter..06:44
KaoticEvilno, nevermind... lol06:45
True_Chaos|Laptoits not on the login screen.  All I see is time, username / pw, session type06:45
KaoticEvilTrue_Chaos|Lapto: it should be on there somewhere.. i know its on mine...06:46
True_Chaos|Laptounfortunatly, tis not.06:47
KaoticEvilTrue_Chaos|Lapto: > try Ctrl+Alt+F406:47
KaoticEvilthat will take you to another terminal..06:47
KaoticEvilit should show on there06:47
KaoticEviljust do NOT login06:47
True_Chaos|Laptowhy dont login?06:48
True_Chaos|Laptoand it did, ubuntu 5.0406:48
KaoticEvilpress Ctrl+Alt+F(1-9) until your desktop comes back up06:48
KaoticEvilTrue_Chaos|Lapto: because it doesnt end X.. it just switched to another TTY06:48
KaoticEviland you dont need to anyway ;)06:48
True_Chaos|Laptonewest release is 5.10 right?06:49
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chaoticgeekso weird06:50
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KaoticEvildammit06:50
KaoticEvilthat sucked06:50
chaoticgeek...06:50
chaoticgeekthat was weird too06:50
True_Chaos|Laptolol?06:50
KaoticEvilah, 6 hour connection06:51
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True_Chaos|Laptohmm, I feel the need to upgrade to 5.10... should be interesting.  Hopefully all goes well.06:52
KaoticEvillol06:52
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chaoticgeekok this must seeme like a stupid question06:52
rawtekhow do I get mp3s to play on amarok06:53
chaoticgeekbut how do I get my clock in 12 hour format?06:53
KaoticEvilTrue_Chaos|Lapto: try apt-get update then apt-get upgrade :)06:53
KaoticEvilusing sudo for both, of course06:53
LeeJunFanrawtek: install libxine and set amarok to use the xine engine.06:53
True_Chaos|Laptowell yeah06:53
rawtekthanks06:53
True_Chaos|LaptoI sudo everything06:53
KaoticEvilLeeJunFan: hello06:53
KaoticEvil:)06:53
LeeJunFanhey.06:53
True_Chaos|LaptoKaoticEvil, the FAQ says that I have to edit my sources.list, but it doesnt say what to change...06:54
KaoticEvilubotu: tell True_Chaos|Lapto about repos06:54
KaoticEvilTrue_Chaos|Lapto: check out what ubotu just told ya :)06:54
rawtekapt-get doesn't show libxine06:55
rawtekLeejunfan:do I have to find libxine myself on the net06:55
KaoticEvilrawtek: try libxine1c206:55
rawtekit is currently installed but does not show up under engines in amarok06:56
KaoticEvilrawtek: apt-cache search <foo>06:56
LeeJunFanrawtek: no, just run adept and search libxine it's something like libxine1c or something odd.06:56
KaoticEvillibxine1c2 actually ;)06:56
rawtekI have the libexine1c2 installed06:57
LeeJunFanKaoticEvil: that apt-cache search only works on your system because you've already downloaded it, won't do much good for him :)06:57
KaoticEvilLeeJunFan: ive not installed libxine1c206:57
rawtekgstreamer is all that shows up in amarok06:57
LeeJunFanrawtek: then go into settings in amarok, go to engine and set it to libxine.06:57
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LeeJunFanrawtek: amarok-xine or something like that is needed too.06:58
KaoticEvili thought apt-cache search searched available package names06:58
LeeJunFanyeah, amarok-xine06:58
LeeJunFanKaoticEvil: only ones you've downloaded are are in /var/cache/apt06:58
KaoticEvilLeeJunFan: not possible.. ive cleared apt-get's cache06:58
rawteknot listed on adept..why is the package list so short 06:59
KaoticEviland i dont have amarok installed...06:59
KaoticEvilubotu: tell rawtek about repos06:59
LeeJunFanubotu: tell rawtek about repositories06:59
KaoticEvilrawtek: add universe and multiverse as described in the link that ubotu just gave you :)06:59
LeeJunFantwice :)06:59
KaoticEvilheh indeed06:59
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LeeJunFanrepositories - not to be confused with the things that make you poop.07:00
KaoticEvilrepos, rc1, w32codecs..07:00
KaoticEvilLOL LeeJunFan 07:00
KaoticEviloh, and LeeJunFan.. apt-cache does search available packages...07:00
KaoticEvili dont have amarok installed or downloaded, and it shows amarok-xine on a search for amarok :)07:01
True_Chaos|Laptothanks KaoticEvil :)07:01
KaoticEviln/p True_Chaos|Lapto 07:01
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LeeJunFanKaoticEvil: cool.07:01
KaoticEvilvery07:01
rawtekok folks all repos are enabled (uncommented) 07:01
KaoticEvili use it religiously07:02
KaoticEvilrawtek: now do: sudo apt-get update07:02
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sambagirli changed my desktop to 800x600 from 1024x768 but xchat still is small, i must close applications for change to reflect?07:04
True_Chaos|Laptoheh upgrading to 5.10 is gonna take awile :P07:04
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True_Chaos|Laptohour and a half for downloading.07:06
sambagirli changed my desktop to 800x600 from 1024x768 but xchat still is small, i must close applications for change to reflect?07:06
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LeeJunFanargh, farking kopete has like 3-5 copies of each user :(07:07
True_Chaos|Laptolol07:07
True_Chaos|Laptokopete is the password thing right?07:07
LeeJunFaninstant messenger07:08
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True_Chaos|Laptoright07:08
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LeeJunFanemphasis on MESS at the moment :)07:08
True_Chaos|Laptolol07:08
True_Chaos|Laptogaim ftw07:08
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rawtekok still no luck07:12
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rawtekgoes to the beginning of the song and then says end of playlist07:12
LeeJunFanrawtek: try to get it to play something from /usr/share/sounds just to make sure it plays anything.07:16
LeeJunFanrawtek: and that's it's just not an mp3 problem.07:16
LeeJunFanKaoticEvil: you ever get ftp working?07:17
chaoticgeekis there a way in kopete to turn off timestamps?07:20
LeeJunFannot that I know of.07:20
chaoticgeekomg07:21
chaoticgeekI hate timestamps07:21
LeeJunFanyou don't want to know what time it was when someone said "Are you there?" while you are sleeping :)07:22
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chaoticgeektime to get gaim07:23
glitchhmm07:24
glitchI love audacity07:24
glitchbut it's really time for an update07:24
glitchalmost a year since the last stable release07:25
LeeJunFanchaoticgeek: SIM is my favorite instant messenger, I've just got mine messed up right now because I play with the devel CVS versions of it.07:25
chaoticgeekSIM?07:25
chaoticgeeknever heard of it07:25
LeeJunFansimple instant messenger07:25
chaoticgeekmaybe I'll give it a shot sometime07:25
chaoticgeekbut I'm off I got class tomorrow07:26
LeeJunFanhttp://sim-icq.sourceforge.net/07:27
LeeJunFancrappy screenshot though.07:28
True_Chaos|LaptoLeeJunFan, does it support webcams?07:29
LeeJunFanTrue_Chaos|Lapto: no.07:32
True_Chaos|Laptodarn07:32
True_Chaos|Laptonone ive found o07:32
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True_Chaos|Laptodo*07:32
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darksoul!encryption07:34
ubotuI haven't a clue, darksoul07:34
darksoul*sigh* anyone know what program can encrypt a entire partion?07:35
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gigcsi have question07:49
kkathmangigcs: please ask07:51
gigcsi doubt sign key package.07:53
gigcsi add package on ubuntu cd .07:55
gigcsuse command which07:56
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gigcsubuntu update distribution08:07
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gigcswhat time is it?08:30
gerbma12:30 a.m. in michigan, USA :-)08:31
aftertaflol08:32
aftertaf8:30 am in france 08:32
aftertafand coooold08:32
gerbma1yea we're headed that direction...i hate the cold08:33
drgayusin kubuntu after i install the packages can i delete them?08:33
drgayuslike firefox08:34
gerbma1drgayus, yes "sudo apt-get remove <package>"08:34
gerbma1aftertaf, are you getting to experience any of that wonderful rioting?08:34
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fatejudgerdoes anyone have a link to those java packages?08:35
gerbma1you mean for the VM and netbeans? they should be on java.sun.com08:36
fatejudgerno08:36
gerbma1oh08:36
fatejudgerthere are debian packages that everyone always gives the link to08:37
fatejudgerI forget the link though08:37
gerbma1hmmm, not sure...i've always just grabbed the installed from sun08:37
fatejudgerthat isn't nearly as good as getting the package08:37
fatejudgersince it doesn't show up in apt08:38
fatejudgermake install and 3rd party installers are bad08:38
gerbma1yea it probably isnt' the best thing...but i was in a hurry and it worked :-)08:38
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gigcsCan someone suggest Sign your packages HowTo.08:40
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darksoulhey, my games folder disapeared on the kde menu, but when i go to edit its still there...some help?08:42
manverudarksoul: delete it in edit-mode and run kappfinder08:43
darksoulwere is kappfinder at08:43
darksoulnvm08:44
manveruyou have to start it with typing [alt] +f2... ok :)08:44
gigcsCan someone suggest Sign your packages HowTo08:44
darksoulits not showing up08:45
manveruok, that's bad...08:45
manverudid you delete/save it in the editor?08:46
manverugigcs: what do you mean?08:46
darksouli deleted it and saved it in KDE menu editer08:46
darksoulyes08:46
manveruok... next step would be to remove the complete menu and rebuild it08:47
darksoulyea...right08:48
manverunot sure if someone of the pros in here has another idea08:48
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darksoulwere are all the games stored?08:48
manveruhey KaoticEvil do you know an easy way to rebuild the k-menu?08:48
manveruand good morning :)08:48
darksoulwere are the games stored?08:48
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manverudarksoul: the games itself or the entries in the menu?08:49
darksouluh entries08:49
darksoulthen games itself08:49
KaoticEvilmanveru: to the defaults, you mean?08:49
manveruexactly08:50
KaoticEvilmanveru: sorry, no :(08:50
darksoulwtf08:50
manveruthought so ... :)08:50
darksoulnothing new is appearing on the menu08:50
KaoticEvilyou may try kappfinder... altho it only scans for non-kde apps08:50
manverulemme look where this config for k-menu lies08:51
manverushould be in kicker right?08:51
darksoulwhats the command to rebuild the menu08:51
darksoulthere has to be a sudo apt-get command lol08:52
manveruno...08:52
manveruexcept you want to remove all your kde-settings08:53
darksoul..08:53
manveruthen removing the .kde folder in your home-directory and restarting kde should help08:53
manverubut i guess you don't want to do that08:53
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oann i downloaded MacromediaStudio For Linux from macromedias site, but its not .deb file.. how can i install it?08:55
kkathmanedit the menu by right clicking the K-menu and choose Menu Editor08:55
kkathmanoann: what kind of file is it?08:55
manverukkathman: sorry, but darksoul is gone already08:56
kkathmanoh08:56
oannkkathman : its macromedia suit files, flash.bin etc.. oh ok i started applications08:56
kkathmanoh well08:56
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kkathmanmanveru: was darksoul's problem more complex that just editing the K menu and putting an item there?08:57
manverukkathman: it was08:57
kkathmanok08:57
manverukkathman: problem was, that the games where there already in the editor, but didn't show in the real menu08:57
kkathmanI shouldnt try to answer while you are here, cuz you are MUCH more advanced than most everyone else 08:58
manverudon't say that, i started with kubuntu two weeks ago...08:58
kkathmanits bed time for me anyway08:58
kkathmangood night08:58
manverusleep well08:58
oanni am a spy from ubuntu channel08:58
manverudoes that help us in any way?08:59
manverudidn't know that there is a macromedia-suite for linux09:00
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DjDarkmanhy ,how can i access a theme maneger program for kde themes?09:05
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kubuntu_guyguys having problem with vmware09:11
DjDarkmanhow can i access a theme maneger program for kde themes?09:12
manveruDjDarkman: you can do it from kcontrol09:12
manveruDjDarkman: in the submenu appearance09:12
kubuntu_guytry kcontrol from cmd line09:12
DjDarkmank09:13
DjDarkmani try09:13
DjDarkman10x a lot09:13
DjDarkmanbye09:14
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walhello09:26
chaoticgeekhello09:26
chaoticgeekdoes mplayer have a apt-get installer?09:26
Tm_Tyes09:26
walmplayer-38609:26
Tm_Tubotu: tell chaoticgeek about sources09:27
chaoticgeekI can compile from source09:27
chaoticgeekits easier to apt-get if its theier09:27
Tm_Thaooy with what you have to be happy with09:27
chaoticgeeknevermind09:27
Tm_T:)09:27
Tm_Tyou can compile or install using apt09:27
wali was wondering how to uninstall the kde desktop - seeing kubuntu-desktop is only a metapackage09:28
chaoticgeekya I tried sudo apt-get install mplayer-386 and it didnt work09:28
chaoticgeeksaid ti could not be found09:28
walits there for me ;)09:29
walaptitiude may help09:29
walthats strange09:30
Tm_Twal: apt-get install kde ;)09:30
Tm_Tand you get MUCH kde stuff09:30
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walhehe im not starting a flame09:31
waljust dont have hd space09:31
Tm_Tyu09:32
Tm_Tthen apt-get remove kde*09:32
Tm_Tpropably remove more thant you want09:32
chaoticgeekwell its not in my source list I did apt-cache pkgnames > pkgnames.txt and it was not in the list09:33
Tm_Tchaoticgeek: I thought I gave some hints to you09:33
walit is in universe i think09:34
Tm_Tyes09:34
walTm_T, thanks for your help btw09:34
chaoticgeekya now I got to find the apt-get source list 09:34
Tm_T!sources09:35
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic09:35
chaoticgeekya I seen that09:35
chaoticgeekand I'm there09:35
chaoticgeekand now I'm searching around09:35
gigcsi try signature package for debian09:38
gigcs<manveru>i try signatrue package ubuntu.09:38
gigcswhat is command sign package .09:39
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manverugigcs: i have got no idea how you would 'sign' a package... what package, what signature, what for?09:39
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ice_1963lol09:40
gigcsWho signatrue package .09:41
ice_1963hello :0)09:41
gigcs<manveru>i want add package on ubuntu cd .09:41
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gigcsyou have advise or link.09:41
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manveruno, i'm sorry, i never did that before09:42
manveruhave a look at #ubuntu for that09:42
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chaoticgeekits still not in my list of apps for apt-get 09:54
chaoticgeekI un commented the lines09:54
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gigcssign package debian10:25
gigcsHowTo10:25
crimsuncome again?10:25
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gigcsHow to sign package debian10:26
raphinkgigcs: what exactly do you want to do ?10:27
kubuntu_guyguys how will I share my printer 10:27
raphinkpackage something for ubuntu?10:27
stagiairHi, I'm new to Kubuntu. Just installed Kubuntu 5.04 on my PC. Now I want do `apt-cache search wxpython` but it doesn't return anything (besides the prompt :)10:27
raphinkkubuntu_guy: google is your friend 10:27
stagiair(correction, it returns python-opengl and python2.4-opengl)10:27
raphinkkubuntu_guy: search a bit on google and you'll find an answer to your question 10:27
kubuntu_guymy printer is installed on my kubuntu and want to share to my windows and ubuntu client10:28
raphinkstagiair: did you install universe/multiverse ?10:28
kubuntu_guyk thanks10:28
raphinkkubuntu_guy: `share printer ubuntu' will do it 10:28
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stagiairraphink: not sure, i just put in the CD really. But from /etc/apt/sources.list I see references to restricted and some to universe.10:29
crimsungigcs: use debsign -k<id>, or pass -k<id> to the appropriate dpkg-buildpackage10:29
raphinkstagiair: they are commented though I guess10:29
raphinkstagiair: lines that begin with a # are commented lines10:29
stagiairraphink: you are right, two references to universe sources are commented, I'll try uncommenting them and see what happends.10:29
raphinkthey are not taken in consideration by apt10:29
raphinkstagiair: when you change your sources.list10:30
raphinkyou have to run apt-get update10:30
raphinkso the changes are taken in consideration ;)10:30
stagiairYes! apt-cache search now returns wxpython & co10:31
stagiairThank you raphink 10:31
raphinkyou're welcome10:31
kubuntu_guyrap thanks 10:31
raphinkkubuntu_guy: got your answer ?10:32
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gigcsthank you10:32
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HaNazirhow do i reset my passwords if i forgot them?10:33
kubuntu_guynot yet10:34
bimberiHaNazir: boot into recovery mode and "passwd <username>"10:34
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choletzkehallo!10:35
kubuntu_guyhow try to search with ubuntuguide.com 10:35
kubuntu_guyraph not yet10:35
stagiairs/com/org/ I think :)10:36
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nalioth!ubuntuguide10:37
ubotusomebody said ubuntuguide was out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.10:37
choletzkei need a mysql admin tool for kubuntu like navicat?10:37
naliothkubuntu_guy: u'guide will break your box, be very wary.  help.ubuntu.com is a safer alternative10:37
kubuntu_guynalioth ganun k thanks for that info10:38
kubuntu_guyany other helpful links that can gave us info for both kubuntu and ubuntu?10:39
nalioth!faq10:39
ubotufaq is, like, totally, The Ubuntu FAQ Guide is: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation or http://help.ubuntu.com10:39
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HaNazirbimberi: but i dotn remmber my root password either10:44
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naliothyahalom: there is no root password10:44
nalioth!root10:44
ubotumethinks root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:44
yahalomnalioth: i created one10:44
bimberiyahalom: recovery mode boots into a root shell 10:45
yahalomok10:45
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choletzkei need a mysql admin tool for kde or gnome like tomcat? where i can find these tools?10:45
naliothyahalom: does your sudo work?10:46
raphinkcholetzke: on kde-apps10:46
choletzkeyes but kmysqladmin and knode is not 100% ok!10:47
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choletzkei miss the SQL (export and import) function in all linux mysql admin tools!10:48
choletzkei search for best opensource linux database tool10:48
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raphinkcholetzke: how about phpmyadmin?10:49
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yahalombimberi: it doesnt work man10:49
yahalombimberi: it says" enter root for maintance or press ctrl +d to continue10:50
bimberiyahalom: i guess that's because you set a root password :(10:50
yahalomyes i did10:51
yahalomthats my whole issue10:51
yahalomhow do i reset it?10:51
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bimberiyahalom: that's the only method that i'm aware of, but there should be others10:52
naliothyahalom: in the future, you can start those things from a superuser shell (sudo -i)10:53
choletzke<raphink> i search x tool not webbased tool10:53
choletzkei compile now knode 0.8! i will test the new export and import function10:53
choletzkesmokingbrake :-)10:54
l3mkopete constantly disconnects me from icq.. "An unknown error has occurred and the connection has been closed". aol and jabber work fine. any ideas what could be causing this?10:54
chaoticgeekthat is weird10:56
chaoticgeekbut I cant help10:56
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chaoticgeekI cant get Mplayer to work10:57
nikkial3m, that's icq being lousy :)10:58
chaoticgeekit says it was built fine and it should work10:58
naliothnikkia: you been hiding again?10:59
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nikkianalioth: was on a business trip thurs and fri, then playing WoW most of the weekend10:59
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naliothnikkia: using the new anti-anti-cheat supplied by Sony ?  :11:00
chaoticgeekok I deleted something11:01
chaoticgeekOn the taskbar next to Konqeror there is an application for checking your mail, RSSfeeds and such what app was that?11:02
chaoticgeekanyone?11:04
raphinkkontact11:04
chaoticgeekthanks11:04
raphinkusing kmail for email, akregator for rss, kaddressbook for contact, korganizer for the organizer, etc.11:04
chaoticgeekya11:05
raphinkkontact gathers several apps in one11:05
chaoticgeekya now I need to put that back there11:05
chaoticgeekok I got it back11:07
nikkiaraphink: i just wish you could configure the korganizer alarm daemon to open kontact on click rather than korganizer :)11:07
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chaoticgeekok now that I have that back its all good11:12
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Myk3hey is there a reason when i add the univers and multi in 5.10 and do a update it fails?11:53
Tm_Thow it fails?11:53
Myk3says cant resolve11:53
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Myk3wont connect to the server11:54
golan77hello everybody!11:54
Tm_Tah, give me the error message11:54
Myk3on 4 of the repositories11:54
Myk3hey11:54
naliothMyk3: spelling counts11:54
Myk3umm11:54
Myk3ok11:54
Tm_Tkubuntu.pastebin.com11:54
chaoticgeeksounds like someone likes error messages11:54
golan77I need some help with my network configuration under kubuntu... anybody listening?11:54
chaoticgeekwow, I got class in 5 hours but I cant sleep11:54
chaoticgeekthis sucks11:54
chaoticgeekhello11:54
Tm_Tchaoticgeek: easier to figure out what's wrong than just "something is wrong"11:54
chaoticgeekdont know if I can help you but sure give it a shot11:55
chaoticgeekI know I just like to be a pain11:55
chaoticgeek:)11:55
golan77This is: I need to manually write "route add default gw xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx", how can I automate it?11:55
golan77when I reboot, my route is without default again...11:55
chaoticgeekTm_T? you have any ideas?11:56
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Tm_TI have ideas, sure11:56
Myk3nm its workign now11:56
Myk3i think11:56
Tm_TMyk3: good, typos?11:56
Myk3no11:56
chaoticgeekideas relevant to golan77's problem?11:56
Myk3its on another box and the route was screwed11:57
Myk3"wrong gateway"11:57
chaoticgeekmaybe I should get out a book and read since I cant sleep11:57
chaoticgeekbut that would require work...11:57
chaoticgeekok11:57
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golan77Myk3... what do u think about it?11:58
chaoticgeekthe linux cookbook11:58
Myk3im gonna log in as "jose" on the machine and if it fails ill paste the error11:58
Myk3t5hink about what?11:58
Myk3o the network11:59
Myk3ubuntu or kubutu?11:59
golan77kubuntu12:00
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Myk3umm12:00
golan77when I reboot the machine, I always haven't the "default" route12:00
golan77and I need to add it manually12:00
golan77I'm in a LAN12:00
Myk3like the gateway?12:00
Myk3static or dhcp?12:00
golan77static12:00
golan77I miss the gw12:00
josehttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found12:01
josehttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found12:01
josehttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found12:01
josehttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found12:01
josehttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/main/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found12:01
josehttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/restricted/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found12:01
josehttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/universe/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found12:01
josehttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/multiverse/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found12:01
Tm_Tflood12:01
golan77I tried to use "network settings", but it doesn't solve the problem12:01
Myk3the gateway is stored in a file called12:01
Myk3hey thats the error12:01
chaoticgeekwhat the12:01
Myk3im getting on the box12:01
Tm_T12:54 < Tm_T> kubuntu.pastebin.com12:01
Myk3something ".conf"12:01
Tm_T;)12:01
Myk3but i cant remember where12:02
golan77resolv.conf12:02
Myk3yea thats it12:02
golan77in /etc12:02
golan77it is correct12:02
Myk3hey thats the error i get when i try to update it12:02
Myk3the other box12:02
Tm_Tyes12:02
chaoticgeekhow about /etc/apt/12:02
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Myk3whats the file look like?12:02
raphinkjose: in the future, please do not paste on here, use the pastebin12:02
Myk3sorry12:03
golan77the file llooks like12:03
chaoticgeekthey have good stuff in there when you do stuff w/ apt program12:03
josesorry12:03
golan77nameserver 123.456.789.12312:03
golan77with the correct ip address of DNS12:03
golan77but hte problem is the GW12:03
Myk3so why cant i see the repos?12:04
golan77well, I'll try again... thanks for now... I need to reboot :)12:04
golan77cheers12:04
naliothjose: please dont paste in here12:05
Myk3ok12:05
joseok i wont12:05
josethsnks12:05
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joseso why cant i get the repos?12:06
joseto update??12:06
naliothbackports just opened up yesterday, they may not have propagated across the world yet (besides, there are no programs there now anyway)12:07
chaoticgeekfortune12:07
chaoticgeekRandom Fortune: ...Deep Hack Mode -- that mysterious and frightening state of consciousness where Mortal Users fear to tread. -- Matt Welsh 12:07
josei know but why do i get a error12:07
chaoticgeekRandom Fortune: In most countries selling harmful things like drugs is punishable. Then howcome people can sell Microsoft software and go unpunished? -- Hasse Skrifvars, hasku@rost.abo.fi,  12:08
chaoticgeeklol12:08
josei am trying to get mp3 support and dvd support12:08
Tm_Tw12:08
Tm_Tawwway ->12:08
chaoticgeekRandom Fortune: Personally, I think my choice in the mostest-superlative-computer wars has to be the HP-48 series of calculators. They'll run almost anything. And if they can't, while I'll just plug a Linux box into the serial port and load up the HP-48 VT-100 emulator. -- Jeff Dege, jdege@winternet.com 12:08
naliothchaoticgeek: please dont do that in here, fortune the walls out of #kubuntu-offtopic , if you wish12:08
chaoticgeekoops12:08
joseso how can i get mp3 support without the repos?12:09
joseand dvd support12:09
joseany one12:10
jose?12:10
naliothjose: you have all the repos you need, you only got errors for something that doesnt exist12:10
joseyea but when i search for the "gstreamer" it isnt there12:11
naliothubotu: tell jose about repos12:12
naliothjose: enable universe and multiverse12:12
chaoticgeekwait, jose you are using kubunu12:12
josei did12:12
joseno12:12
joseubuntu12:12
jose5.1012:12
chaoticgeekoh12:12
chaoticgeeknever mind12:12
Tm_Tsame thing12:12
joselol12:12
joseonly diff is kde/gnome12:12
joseright12:12
Tm_Tno, only diff is Kubuntu has some extra12:13
chaoticgeekadept package manager showed gstreamer stuff when I went to update before I got universe/multiverse12:13
Tm_Tboth have kde && gnome12:13
chaoticgeekso if you got adept then  you could load that up and see12:13
naliothchaoticgeek: it isnt the frontend, it's the sources.list12:14
chaoticgeekhow do I know what stuff kaffeine can play?12:14
chaoticgeekwhat?12:14
chaoticgeekI know adept is a frontend12:14
chaoticgeekbut I edited the sources.list after I got gestreamer files12:15
naliothchaoticgeek: if his sources are good, he can find gstreamer using adept, synaptic, apt-get, aptitude, etc12:15
chaoticgeekya12:15
chaoticgeekI see what your saying now12:15
joseit isnt finding it12:15
chaoticgeekok, then I cant help12:16
naliothjose: paste your sources list to this place >>12:16
nalioth!paste12:16
ubotusomebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text12:16
joseo wait it might have this tikme12:16
kubuntu_guygtg guys have to go12:17
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Myk3is libdvdcss in the repos?12:26
nalioth!libdvdcss212:28
ubotusomebody said libdvdcss2 was to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"12:28
Myk3does that come with 5.10?12:28
Myk3i think it does12:28
Myk3so it will decrypt dvd?12:28
naliothMyk3: um, read the ubotu post12:29
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Myk3ok12:34
Myk3how do i use that file for libdvdcss2?12:34
naliothMyk3: read the file itself12:35
Myk3i did12:35
naliothubotu: tell Myk3 about cli12:38
josewhat is cli?12:38
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naliothubotu: tell jose about cli12:38
Myk3lol12:38
naliothcommand line interface is your best friend12:38
Myk3ok what is ubotu?12:38
chaoticgeekOk, I want to use kaffine to do all my videos, is this possible?12:38
naliothknowing how to get around in the console will save your butt when your xserver goes bye-bye12:39
nalioth!ubotu12:39
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.12:39
Myk3lol12:39
Myk3cool12:39
chaoticgeekdamn I cant play around with him12:40
chaoticgeekubotu tell chaoticgeek about msfounts12:40
chaoticgeekubotu tell chaoticgeek about msfonts12:41
josetotem frezzes on dvd playback12:42
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naliothubotu: tell chaoticgeek about msg the bot12:42
chaoticgeekI got that12:42
naliothubotu: tell chaoticgeek about repeat12:42
chaoticgeekhe tells you about it12:42
Myk3 ubotu: tell chaoticgeek about ubotu12:43
naliothi suspect the msg forms is different tween 'msg the bot' and what you get when you tell yourself12:43
Myk3any reason why totem is freezing on dvd playback?12:43
naliothubotu: tell Myk3 about dvd12:44
Myk3why u tell me about libdvdcss2 when u said just a minute ago about libdvdread312:45
Myk3or somehting12:45
naliothubotu: tell Myk3 about libdvdcss212:46
naliothMyk3: if you dont have the whole set, dvd wont work12:46
joseo ok12:46
chaoticgeekok, do I need the backports for the sources.list uncommented?12:47
chaoticgeekI assume so12:47
Myk3what is uncommented12:48
Myk3?12:48
chaoticgeektake the # from infront of the url12:48
Myk3yea but the backports arnet ready yet12:49
Myk3i dont belive12:49
nalioththere are no pkgs in backports at this time, the repo is open though12:49
Kao|Sleepanyone know how to import mail messages from Thunderbird to KMail?12:50
chaoticgeekwell I get 404 errors for them12:50
Myk3so do i12:50
naliothchaoticgeek: Myk3: then comment them until some pkgs arrive12:50
Myk3i will12:51
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chaoticgeekI still cant find mplayer-k6 package to install mplayer12:53
ealmhi12:53
chaoticgeekhi12:53
ealmI need a sources.list for kubuntu12:53
ealmwhere can I find one?12:53
nalioth!sources12:53
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:53
chaoticgeekI was gonna do that12:54
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chaoticgeekmy kate does not open up12:55
chaoticgeekI get the bouncing icon next to my mouse cursor12:55
chaoticgeekwhen I try and run kate from the terminal I get "kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed."12:57
josehow do i add a link to xine in the applications menu/>12:58
joseok01:02
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Myk3sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh01:03
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Myk3how do i change th default dvd player from totem to xine?01:11
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atidemhello01:12
aftertafchaoticgeek: what does apt-cache search mplayer-   give you? 01:14
chaoticgeekone sec01:15
naliothubotu: tell chaoticgeek about mplayer01:15
chaoticgeeknothing01:16
chaoticgeek > mga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source) w32codecs - win32 binary codecs01:16
chaoticgeekapt-cache search mplayer gives me that ^^01:17
atidemroot@zeus:/home/atidem# apt-cache search mplayer01:17
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atidemmga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source)01:17
atidemacidrip - ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder01:17
atidemlibpostproc0 - Mplayer postproc shared libraries01:17
atidemmencoder-586 - MPlayer's Movie Encoder01:17
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atidemmencoder-custom - MPlayer's Movie Encoder01:17
atidemmencoder-k6 - MPlayer's Movie Encoder01:17
atidemmozilla-mplayer - MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla01:17
atidemmplayer-386 - The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux01:17
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atidemmplayer-586 - The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux01:17
atidemmplayer-686 - transitional dummy package which can be safely removed01:18
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atidem?01:18
naliothatidem: please dont paste01:18
nalioth!paste01:19
ubotusomebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text01:19
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chaoticgeekya nalioth I have seen that, but it does not help me when it keeps telling me that mplayer is not found, does not matter what I use01:19
chaoticgeekhaha01:19
chaoticgeekthats kinda funny01:19
atidemI didnt flood the channel nalioth 01:20
naliothchaoticgeek: there is no mplayer, there are only mplayer-586 or mplayer-powerpc01:20
naliothatidem: not about flooding, it's about pasting01:20
atidemput something on topic then01:21
atidemit's better01:21
chaoticgeekok, but on the webpage that I got from the bot  it says for amd x86 use mplayer-k601:21
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chaoticgeekand it says there is no mplayer-586 too01:22
chaoticgeekand I know Idont have powerpc01:22
chaoticgeekyou can "apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings"01:23
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naliothchaoticgeek: then you need to enable universe and multiverse01:23
chaoticgeekI have them enabled01:23
chaoticgeekI went "sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list" and removed the # from the two urls01:24
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naliothchaoticgeek: then something is very wrong. have you updated your apt-get since you enabled them?01:24
chaoticgeekI have updated apt-get quite a few times01:25
naliothchaoticgeek: then something is very wrong01:25
nalioth!info mplayer-58601:25
ubotumplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB01:25
naliothchaoticgeek: you need to go back and vi in some multiverse01:26
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chaoticgeekI'm looking through this and I cant find anything talking about multiverse01:26
chaoticgeekbut my kate is messed up so I cant use the source list genorator01:26
naliothchaoticgeek: the source list generator is pure bunk01:27
chaoticgeekwhat?01:28
naliothchaoticgeek: open the sources.list in vi or nano or whatever and change "universe" to "universe multiverse"01:28
nalioththe source-o-matic is crap01:28
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AngryClipdoes installing doing an: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop remove gnome ?01:30
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chaoticgeekk well its working now01:31
chaoticgeekam I going to have to do more to get the gui working?01:31
naliothwhat gui?01:31
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chaoticgeekgmplayer01:31
chaoticgeekok thanks01:32
chaoticgeekit all works01:32
chaoticgeekfinnaly thanks alot nalioth 01:34
naliothchaoticgeek: sorry for the growling01:35
chaoticgeekI got chem at 11 and I have not slept all night01:35
chaoticgeekno problems, I would have too if I was in your shoes, espicaly at the person that would have been me01:35
chaoticgeekbeing new and all01:35
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chaoticgeekits light out again01:36
chaoticgeekagain, thanks alot you were a great help01:36
chaoticgeekbut I need to go get something to eat01:36
naliothno excuse for my growling01:37
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matt_hi!01:51
matt_does anyone know if its possible to play wma files in amaroK01:51
naliothubotu: tell matt_ about w32codecs01:54
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matt_oh, ive installed the w32codecs.01:54
naliothmatt_: if you're trying to access modern microcrap formats, you may not have success01:55
matt_yeah i thought as much. cheers tho.01:56
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Mars_^Hi somone using kxdocker? I need help. I want to deletye from docker part of it that shows running aplications. How can i do it?01:59
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guillermitoHi I've already installed kubuntu 5.1 and I don know where is my KDE-theme-manager. Can anybody help me?02:10
guillermitoDo I need to install it or what02:11
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chaoticgeekoops02:15
chaoticgeekdidnt want to close that out02:15
qbitguillermito: while there is an Appearance entry on the System Settings menu you probably want kcontrol - install this with 02:17
qbitAdept and you'll see the old Kcontrol you're used to02:17
chaoticgeekI'm gonna crash bad tonihgt02:17
chaoticgeekif I make it02:17
chaoticgeekI have not slept in going on 24 hours02:17
chaoticgeekand college food sucks02:17
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qbitwhen I was young I used to stay up 3 days at a time but I wouldn't even think of it now...  :-)02:18
guillermitoqbit but can I keep the new k control and including KDE theme manager in it?02:18
qbityou will have both the System Setting and the Kcontrol02:18
qbityou can use either02:18
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qbitthe System Setting is the new replacement for the old Kcontrol02:19
guillermitoI understand02:19
guillermitobut I'd not like to install to muchh things you know...02:19
guillermitojust the necessary02:19
qbitlol - yeah I'm working on filling up my 10Gb drive, but I don't think Kcontrol is too large02:20
guillermitoso I prefere to include KDE theme manager in the new k control (System setings)02:20
guillermito:)02:20
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guillermitothat is not the toruble. It's just I dont like to have too mane things.02:21
qbitI understand02:21
guillermitoSo, there's a way to include it in the new Kpanel?02:21
qbitif there is I don't know02:21
guillermitook, thanks a lot qbit?02:22
guillermitoehh, what do you think about my english?02:22
guillermitoI'm spanish02:22
qbitnot bad - if I can understand then it's just fine  :-)02:22
guillermitospaniard02:22
guillermito:) ok02:23
qbitlet me look at something for a second02:23
guillermitookay i'm doing the same02:23
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naliothwhere's my multiple select in konqueror filemangler?02:24
naliothi'm using breezy02:24
nalioththe ctrl key doesnt do it02:24
djk_nalioth: heh, ctrl+mouse click doesn't select several files?02:25
naliothdjk_: it does not02:25
guillermitoyou could try to configure it ak kcontrol. I thing there's a way02:26
djk_nalioth: does it work in other progs like k3b?02:26
naliothhavent tried the other evil guis, yes02:26
naliothyes it does work in k3b02:27
qbitguillermito: I was thinking I could quickly see how the theme manager is launched, but to no avail02:27
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djk_nalioth: finally someone besides me with that problem :) i didn't find a fix. neither here nor in #kde... so krusader is running now.02:27
qbitguillermito: It is probably just a couple of switches buried somewhere02:28
qbitIt would be a shame to install kcontrol (16.4MB) just to get the theme manager back  :(02:29
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AldeBaranhi02:29
djk_hehe, krusader is pretty nice actually.02:29
naliothi use it, but i prefer konq02:30
AldeBaranIs it possible to get jigdo files from live kubuntu?02:30
chaoticgeekyou can just d/l the whole dvd iso02:30
AldeBaraner... "for" even02:30
chaoticgeekI did02:30
chaoticgeekalmost 24 hours02:31
naliothAldeBaran: there are jigdo files for all isos02:31
volkerhi. anybody can help me with backports and extra-repos??02:31
volkerwhich one are working??02:31
djk_nalioth: the ctrl+mouse seems to work for pretty much everyone besides us two it seems.02:31
chaoticgeekbackports are not working yet02:31
AldeBaranok, assuming I live in Africa and don't have a big fat DSL pipe?02:31
chaoticgeekoh02:31
AldeBarannalioth: I can't seem to find any for the live kubuntu CDs02:31
volkerchaoticgeek: ok02:31
chaoticgeekkeep the # infront of the backports for now02:32
chaoticgeekbut other than that all of them should be working02:32
qbitdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse02:32
chaoticgeekyes02:32
chaoticgeekI think so02:32
guillermitoqbit, yes installing old kcontrol is not a "clean" solution. That's why  I'm trying other way02:32
qbitand: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-extras main restricted universe multiverse02:33
volkerok.02:33
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volkerive got some  problems with my ubuntu02:34
chaoticgeekcrap02:34
chaoticgeekno 3d games work02:34
djk_which packages include the admin mode fix in breezy?02:34
volkeri cant watch videos and i cant hear my MP3s:(02:34
AldeBaran..just by changing sources file :)02:34
volkerwhich packages should i install?02:34
chaoticgeekI did an update for my entire system and the admin mode worked02:34
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guillermitoqbit http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=63b452c98999779c6b425b7872f7bbff&topic=876.0 here there's a way but I cant do the same as the guys does02:34
djk_chaoticgeek: well, i don't want to update everything.02:35
chaoticgeekthen I cant help you02:35
chaoticgeeksry02:35
djk_chaoticgeek: pretty much just want to be able to set the clock02:35
AldeBaransudo ntpdate ?02:35
chaoticgeekya I have problems w/ the clock still02:36
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AldeBarannot sure what just happened..02:36
chaoticgeekubotu: tell volker about codecs02:36
chaoticgeekthere you go volker the codecs thing is the link that ubotu gave you02:37
chaoticgeekthat should help you with mp3s, and videos02:37
AldeBaranso, can one get jigdo files for the live kubuntu CDs?02:37
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AldeBaranthyey aren't listed on the website or mirrors02:37
chaoticgeekI dont know then02:38
naliothAldeBaran: you are correct, ask riddell about it when he arrives02:38
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guillermitoqbit i coud do it doing the same as the instrucctions in the url I gave you02:39
Aldenal: ok, thanx02:39
guillermitoit's a bit strage but..02:39
chaoticgeekhttp://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/ if you scroll down find kubuntu-5.10-live-<your processor tyep>.jigdo02:40
chaoticgeekits under all the cds02:40
Riddellnalioth: hmm?02:40
chaoticgeekit has the .iso and .torrent files along side too02:40
chaoticgeekand all the install and live cds are there02:40
naliothchaoticgeek: there are NO jidgo files for live kubuntu02:40
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chaoticgeekI could have sworn I saw one02:41
naliothRiddell: Alde was pointing out there are no jidgo files for live kubuntu 5.1002:41
chaoticgeekguess not02:41
naliothchaoticgeek: they exist for install images but not live ones02:41
chaoticgeekI'm seeing things02:41
manveruchaoticgeek: are they green and have no pants?02:42
chaoticgeekno02:42
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chaoticgeekjust .jigdo files02:42
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manverudamn, you can't make money with jigdo...02:43
chaoticgeekvolker did that link help you?02:43
chaoticgeekvolker:? are you there?02:44
volkerchaoticgeek: yes thanks very much:D02:44
Aldehmmmm...hoary also doesn't have02:44
chaoticgeekoh02:44
volkerchaoticgeek: sorry for beeing so slow;-)02:44
Riddellno, you can't jigdo live CDs02:44
mrmarcelhi02:44
chaoticgeekhi02:44
Riddellhi mrmarcel 02:45
Alderiddell: pity, coz I'm sure it could save a lot of downloading02:45
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RiddellAlde: rsync02:46
Riddellshould half the download time02:46
Riddellsee KubuntuFiles on the wiki02:46
guillermitobye bye02:47
djk_Riddell: which packages include the admin mode fix in breezy?02:47
chaoticgeekkate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.02:48
chaoticgeekcrap02:48
Riddelldjk_: kdebase-bin in breezy-updates02:48
chaoticgeekok well nalioth I keep getting an error, the one I just said02:48
Alderiddell: mount ISO image, rsync, burn?02:48
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chaoticgeekdo you know of any problems like this? It will not even start up02:49
djk_Riddell: thanks.02:49
RiddellAlde: just rsync the .iso file02:49
Aldeok...will try, thanx :)02:50
chaoticgeekanyone know of anyproblems where kate (advanced text editor) just stops working?02:53
chaoticgeekI gte this error02:54
chaoticgeekkate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.02:54
djk_how do i delete a ppp connection created with pppoeconf?02:55
naliothchaoticgeek: open a konsole and type "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kate"02:55
AldeI have... try run it command line and see what you get02:55
chaoticgeekstill get the same thing02:56
djk_chaoticgeek: only had that problem in hoary with sudo kate..02:56
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Alderiddell: why is there no ssh installed on ubuntu live cd?02:59
chaoticgeekI need some caffine03:00
naliothAlde: an ssh client is on the livecd03:00
Aldenal: I meant server03:00
naliothAlde: install the 'ssh' pkg03:00
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Aldenal: I do. But I have to do it everytime I use the box03:01
RiddellAlde: kubuntu has no servers by default03:01
Aldeahhhh03:01
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Kao|Sleepanyone know how to import mail messages from thunderbird to kmail?03:02
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asmzHello. I have problemas installing my USB adsl modem in KUbuntu 5.10; i'm using the eagle-usb driver, but the driver doesn't.. recognize? the modem connected to my PC. It's seems that only the "module" is charged, but only that. How can I search to solve this problem?03:05
qbitKoa|Sleep: goto Tools and choose Import messages and select Thunderbird if the mails are local03:06
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qbiterr - that to KaoticEvil   03:07
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KaoticEvilqbit: i didnt see thta option in kmail...03:08
KaoticEvilthat*03:08
qbitI'm using Kontact with Kde 3.4.3 and I have that option under Kontact03:09
KaoticEviloh, its in kontact.. ok03:09
KaoticEvili was just looking in KMail03:09
djk_i'd like to use my pppoe connection on someone elses computer since it's faster, how do i delete it afterwards? i use pppoeconf to configure it.03:10
KaoticEvilqbit: they must have taken that out of KDE3.5rc1... because its not there03:11
qbitok03:12
KaoticEvil*sigh*03:13
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qbitMy Adept is showing kmail alone as installed but IIRC I installed kdepim manually and some plugins03:15
qbitMaybe I got it when I did that03:15
chaoticgeekwow, my college is of no help to me03:15
qbitbut I can't speak to 3.5rc103:15
KaoticEvilcould be... altho i think kdepim got installed when i upgraded to rc103:16
chaoticgeekI can not get some infromation on a degree03:16
KaoticEvilnevermind, it didnt get installed... getting it now03:17
KaoticEvilty qbit :)03:17
chaoticgeekkdepim just finished for me03:17
KaoticEvili cant really see them removing a fdeauture such as that....03:17
qbitthese features get shuffled around from package to package every once in a while  :-)03:19
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Myk3hey how can i install stuff from the cd that wasnt installed on install03:20
chaoticgeektired03:21
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Myk3hey is there a way to install software from cd?03:28
dreampinghave someone integrated selinux to kubuntu?03:28
Myk3im trying to install k3b from the cd03:29
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Alderiddell, nalioth, chaotic: thank you all for your help.03:31
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Myk3hu?03:31
Myk3anyone03:31
naliothMyk3: what cd is it?03:32
Myk3how can i chnage the default video player?03:32
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Myk3the ubuntu cd03:32
Myk35.1003:32
RiddellMyk3: k3b isn't on the ubuntu CD03:32
Myk3damn03:32
penguinzdrguys what must i do after installing kubuntu-desktop packages on ubuntu?03:33
Myk3so can i just download the k3b pkg?03:33
Myk3what other files will i need?03:33
naliothMyk3: use adept03:33
naliothMyk3: that is what adept is for03:33
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penguinzdrguys what must i do after installing kubuntu-desktop packages on ubuntu?03:34
naliothpenguinzdr: log out and at the log in screen, click "sessions" and choose 'kde'03:35
pc22how do i make this>>> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda5 /media/win      writable03:35
Myk3that pc is  not on the net03:35
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Myk3 right noe03:35
Myk3now03:35
manverupc22: excuse me but i seriously doubt it will work like that03:36
penguinzdrnalioth: i see that synaptic now installs kdm03:36
pc22yes it does work03:36
penguinzdrhow can i use it and no use gdm?03:36
Myk3pc22 is it ntfs?03:36
pc22dont worry its not windows03:36
naliothpenguinzdr: you'll be fine03:36
manverupc22: ok...03:36
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pc22its ext303:36
manverupc22: however, it should be mounted rw already03:36
penguinzdrnalioth: ok, i worry if x server crash03:36
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pc22so whats the command?03:37
naliothpenguinzdr: when kdm is installing, it will ask you which one you want, just keep gdm03:37
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penguinzdrnalioth: and if i select kdm?03:37
naliothpenguinzdr: you'll use kdm and be happy03:37
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penguinzdrnalioth: great thanks03:38
zercoszHi03:38
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mianoswow03:39
mianosi'm doing a make menuconfig on 2.6.14-2 source03:39
mianoswhat is that? ipw2200 intel centrino wlan driver IN the kernel=03:39
mianos=03:39
mianos?03:39
djk_i'd like to use my pppoe connection on someone elses computer since it's faster, how do i delete it afterwards? i use pppoeconf to configure it.03:39
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StRHi all!03:44
Myk3so what files are required for k3b?03:44
StRare ther already backports for breezy?03:44
Myk3hey03:44
Myk3the link is there but noe file03:44
Myk3s03:44
Myk3no files03:44
naliothMyk3: just use adept for install it03:46
Myk3that pc is not on the net03:47
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chaoticgeekI'm back03:47
Myk3is k3b on the old ubuntu cd?03:47
chaoticgeekk3b is for kde so would it be on the kubuntu cd?03:47
Myk3ok03:48
Myk3so cd burning app for gnome?03:48
chaoticgeekand also I belive you can go 'sudo apt-get install k3b'03:48
chaoticgeekcrap03:48
chaoticgeekI cant remember right off hand03:48
Myk3the pc is not on the net03:48
chaoticgeekah03:48
Myk3so i want to either install off disk or dled it and install it via external/thumb drive03:49
chaoticgeekgnomebaker is the cd/dvd burner for gnome03:49
Myk3make sense?03:49
chaoticgeekya03:49
chaoticgeekubuntu should have ti03:49
Myk3is it as good as k3b?03:49
chaoticgeekI dont knwo03:50
chaoticgeekknow*03:50
Myk3i dont see gnome baker03:50
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cardmeuh03:51
Myk3ok so how can i install from the kubuntu cd?03:51
naliothMyk3: visit packages.ubuntu.com and search for k3b. you'll find all the depends there03:51
Myk3"k3b"03:51
Myk3k03:51
chaoticgeekyou can use the adept package manager to install from cd03:52
naliothchaoticgeek: k3b is not on the cd03:52
chaoticgeekoh03:52
Myk3even from the kubuntu cd?03:53
Myk3cause i have 5.04 kubuntu03:53
chaoticgeekso how easy is it to burn a dvd w/ k3b?03:53
naliothchaoticgeek: easy as pie03:53
chaoticgeekI dont like pie03:54
mornfallnalioth: pies are pretty hard... to cook03:54
chaoticgeekhow about cookies?03:54
chaoticgeeklol03:54
naliothk3b is the best cd/dvd burner in ubuntu, imho03:54
chaoticgeekok03:54
chaoticgeekI'll take your word for it03:54
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chaoticgeek I got a question03:55
naliothchaoticgeek: what do you do with a question?03:55
Myk3what was that link aqain03:56
Myk3?03:56
naliothpackages.ubuntu.com03:56
chaoticgeekIs there a big diffrence to d/l the DVD iso and install from that from the regular CD iso?03:56
Myk3more stuff03:56
naliothchaoticgeek: no difference at all. the dvd has a live and install image on it03:56
Myk3?03:56
naliothMyk3: no sir.03:56
Myk3o so it has both03:56
chaoticgeekok03:57
Myk3instead of both cds03:57
chaoticgeekthats what I was thinking03:57
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chaoticgeekI was able to install some stuff from the DVD iso to windows before I got kubnutu up and going03:57
chaoticgeekbut that goes along w/ the free cd project03:58
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Myk3where do i type it in04:05
Myk3directories?>04:06
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acvardarhaving problem with the admin password it returns an error "error-kde su" su returned an error. how can i avoid this problem04:09
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cvardarhaving problem with the admin password it returns an error "error-kde su" su returned an error. how can i avoid this problem? any idea?04:11
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chaoticgeekcvardar: you need to update kdebase-bin in breezy-updates04:13
cvardarnow i cannto conenct to internet becaus ei even cannot modify my ip settings how can i get that package?04:13
naliothcvardar: avoid using '04:14
naliothsu'04:14
naliothcvardar: 'su' is for other linux distros, not (k)ubuntu04:14
cvardaravoid? without su how can i change admin related setttings?04:14
nalioth!kdesu04:14
ubotuUse kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.04:14
naliothcvardar: you also need to update your broken admin package as chaoticgeek points out04:15
chaoticgeekwell I'm of to te wild web to find a tv tuner program to watch tv with :) wish me luck04:15
chaoticgeekyay I'm rihgt04:15
chaoticgeekright*04:15
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hantsjimhello all04:16
chaoticgeeklets see what kdetv does04:17
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hantsjimanyone else had trouble with wireless after the adept update?..04:17
cvardarwhat about the kubuntu itself doe snot it uses su? because i even cannot enter to admin mode from gui applicatiosn for example admin mode of network settings.04:17
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hantsjimcvardar, that is a bug, for which you need to update to the latest version of kcontrol04:17
hantsjimalthough if you do that like I did, you lose wireless04:18
hantsjimand I cant seem to get it back!04:18
naliothcvardar: your admin controls are broken. 04:18
naliothcvardar: it is a known bug, see what chaoticgeek said to you above04:19
brokenbrow the crims04:19
brokenbroi'M italian!04:19
hantsjimhas anyone else lost wireless after updating?..04:19
brokenbroseek and destroy!04:19
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cvardarok letme try thank you 04:19
KaoticEvilwell, whoever that was that suggested installing kdepim to import my mail from t'bird to kmail.. you were right :) cheers!04:19
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chaoticgeekholy shit04:21
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chaoticgeekgetting a tv tuner program and my tv tuner card is gonna be fun04:21
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naliothchaoticgeek: language please, and keep religion out of here, too04:22
KaoticEvillol @ keep religion out04:22
chaoticgeeklol religion04:22
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cardhi04:29
carddo you can speak french on another chan for kubuntu?04:29
nalioth#kubuntu-fr or #ubuntu-fr04:29
cardtx man04:29
naliothno problem04:30
chaoticgeekok kdetv is not working04:31
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cvardarfrom where cna i download kdebase-bin latest version .deb file and how can i install it without haveing adminsitrative rights (i mean when su command is not functioning)04:34
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naliothcvardar: visit kubuntu.org04:35
cvardargood idea.04:35
naliothcvardar: dont use su04:35
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naliothubotu: tell cvardar about root04:35
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tiloYay04:36
noteventime:P04:36
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noteventimeAny kde gurus here? :D04:37
manveruhow guruistic do he have to be?04:37
manveru-do+does04:37
noteventimehehe04:37
noteventimeNot too guru i think ;)04:37
noteventimeI actualy rather need a KDM guru04:38
manveruwell, that's something different04:38
manverubut maybe i can help you04:38
noteventimeSometimes when i try to login after i logout  i cant write anything in the txtboxes04:39
manveruin this case, restart X04:39
manveruat least it solves the problem for me04:39
cvardarguruistic approach :)04:39
noteventime:P Thats what i usualy do04:39
manveru^^04:39
noteventimeHehe, thanks anyway04:39
manverusorry, i'm in no way a guru, and never thought more about this problem04:40
cvardarcomeon thisis not a microsoft product,, there should be a way to solve that problem.04:40
cvardar;)04:40
noteventimeYep...04:40
manveruwell, go on and do it...04:40
noteventimeThere IS someway... But i dont know it.04:40
noteventimeMaybe its because of moodin04:40
manverui won't be able to solve it, since there is not even a error-message or something to focus on04:41
manveruand it's not like i would login that often...04:41
manverualso you could use gdm04:41
noteventime:P im on a laptop so it happens quite often04:41
manveru(wich doesn't provide shutdown for kde - so you solve a problem by creating a new one, wich sounds very much like murphys law...)04:42
noteventime:p04:44
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chaoticgeeklooks like I have to trouble shoot kdetv04:46
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chaoticgeekbut thats for when I'm not so tired04:46
manveruchaoticgeek: aim at the head... it has no heart04:46
chaoticgeekkdetv?04:46
manveruyeah... isn't it just a gui for something else?04:47
chaoticgeekI dont know04:47
manveruin case of doubt just ignore what i said and use killall kdetv04:47
chaoticgeekit was just one of the programs that I saw that could do tv like what I needed04:48
manverui've never tried it - is it for analog or digital?04:48
chaoticgeekI dont know04:49
manverudo you use satellite or antenna?04:50
chaoticgeekwintv program for windows automaticly set it all up for me04:50
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chaoticgeekcable04:50
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manveruthat's digital then04:50
chaoticgeekcoax connection04:50
chaoticgeekI just want to be able to record some shows and watch some tv w/ it04:50
manveruit all comes down to the _just_ :)04:50
chaoticgeekmy anime thats on when I sleep and when my roomie is using his tv so I can watch other stuff04:51
manveruwell, i use a normal tv with HD-recorder to do it...04:51
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Mars_^Hi05:00
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freemanenIf have ubuntu and install  kubuntudesktop I just get it in english. How do I get in swedish?05:08
cvardari am having problem about the su, as advised i tried to update kdebase-bin using kdesu command but again i receive an error and cannot do anythign that requires admin rights any idea?05:08
naliothfreemanen: join #kubuntu and ask05:08
naliothwait this is #kubuntu  (oh i'm so confused)05:09
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Mars_^how can i remove task manager from kxdocker?05:10
cvardar137 people on the list and nobody has an idea how to make access rights working, it is a fresh install, and from the first moment sudo and kdesu and also admin buttons onthe gui applicatiosn are not funstioning, always returnung kde-su error.05:12
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Asashihey all05:19
Asashianyone have a moment to help me with something? 05:20
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naliothAsashi|help: ask your question05:24
Asashi|helpdoes anyone know if there is a way to install kubuntu to hard drive from live cd or is the install destro seperate?05:24
Asashi|helpjust did :)05:24
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Asashi|helpdistro*05:25
naliothAsashi|help: they are seperate05:25
jjesseinstall is seperate right now, in dapper you will be able to install from the live cd05:26
jjesseonly one cd 05:26
Asashi|helpok..thanks for your help :)05:26
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_rolf!sources05:31
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic05:31
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_ghi05:34
Myk3hey05:34
_gIch htte mal eine Frage bez. KDE05:34
Myk3hu?05:34
naliothfr deutsch, fragen sie im #ubuntu-de, oder #kubuntu-de05:35
_gmeep. Sorry.05:35
Myk3english?05:35
naliothMyk3: english what?05:35
_gI've got a question referring to KDE05:35
Myk3ok05:36
_gIve just installed KDE and got following "problem": Window-Captions and Menu-texts are extremely bold (Im currently uploading a Picture)05:36
_ghttp://img493.imageshack.us/img493/1098/bildschirmphoto19eu.png05:37
_rolffor xubuntu i just need to apt-get install xfce4 right?05:37
_gor xfld-desktop (meta package)05:37
raphinkthis is normal _g05:38
raphinkthis is how KDE looks on kubuntu by default05:38
_gmhh. Im not blind XD05:38
raphinkyou can change the settings in kcontrol05:38
_gwhere exactly?05:38
_gAppearance->Fonts ?05:38
naliothrobin_: no, xubuntu-desktop05:39
naliothcrap05:39
nalioth_rolf: no, xubuntu-desktop05:39
raphinkyes g05:39
_rolfnalioth: ah okay, thanks05:39
_gbut the sizes are already set to "10" and it looks nicely in the preview05:40
_gbut not on the desktop05:40
_rolfwill the printer settings done in kde stay?05:40
_gok. Done. 9 looks much better. Thank you :)05:41
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Mars_^How to update kxdocker?05:42
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naliothnikkia: yawn? ya been playin WoW all week long..05:45
nikkiaerm, no, i've been working like crazy for the last 8 hours05:46
nikkiawell, 7hr4505:46
naliothi finally put breezy on my powermac05:46
naliothsound works now05:46
nikkiamanaged to get about 80% of my 'expected to be completed by thursday' workload done today05:46
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nikkiaanyway, time for some 'early' WoW i think, be back tomorrow :)05:48
naliothnikkia: have fun, (use the $$sys$ to your advantage)05:49
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StRHi all05:51
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StRhow do I install the amarok 1.3.5?05:51
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slow-motionhallo05:51
_rolfnalioth: when i reboot or shutdown i get a Couldn't evaluate GTM error with some numbers (goes away too fast, so not sure what they are).. what does it mean?05:51
nalioth_rolf: never heard of that05:53
StRanyone already using amarok1.3.5?05:53
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manveruStR: if you want it, build it05:54
naliotha few of us05:54
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StRmanveru: I downloaded the .deb from the kubuntu site, but I don't know how to install it (upgrade my existing one)05:54
manveruStR: well, i tried it and it kept crashing, so i switched back to my old 1.5.105:55
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manveruStR: you just do dpkg -i whateverthispackageiscalled.deb05:55
StRmanveru: that will overwrite the one I have installed now?05:56
cvardaryes, if never.05:56
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cvardarif newer05:56
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StRcvardar: thanks05:56
cvardarwelcome, her ei have a question about admin rights on a  fresh install of latest kubuntu 05:57
cvardari can not do anythign that requires admin rights, it gives kde-su error.05:57
_rolfwill the desktop shrtcuts i have in kde be available in xfce?05:57
naliothubotu: tell StR about checkinstall05:58
naliothStR: better to build it from source and use checkinstall to install it05:58
cvardarnobody has an idea about the kde-su error?05:59
cvardarwhat a bad feeling to be ignored :(06:00
_rolfcvardar: i'd assume the in the /topic mentioned "admin mode fix" fixes that06:00
cvardarshoudl i check it in wiki?06:01
naliothcvardar: you're not being ignored. i see everything you type06:01
naliothcvardar: no one knows the answer to your question06:01
cvardar:(06:01
naliothcvardar: the wiki or forums is a good place to go, i'd check kubuntu.org first06:01
cvardarpeople says about kubuntu.org but ic annot see any support page instead of redirecting to forums and chat, is there anythign i am missing?06:02
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icewt_rolf: you can't place shortcuts on desktop in xfce by default06:03
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_rolficewt: how can i get quick access to certain progs in xfce then06:05
icewt_rolf: well, you could place them in the xfce panel06:05
_rolficewt: good enough i suppose, will the printer settings done in kde be available in xfce?06:06
icewt_rolf: can't say, i haven't had kde installed when i have used xfce06:07
naliothcvardar: come to #kubuntu-offtopic please06:08
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jpatrickhi OculusAquilae 06:09
icewt_rolf: you can find some desktop solutions for xfce there http://www.lynucs.org/?xfce - if you are lucky, people have mentioned all the programs they have used ;)06:09
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OculusAquilaehi jpatrick06:10
_rolficewt: thanks :)06:11
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KaoticEvilis there a way to change the views for konqueror?06:28
KaoticEvili remember there being a way to make your own views.. but i cant seem to find it now06:28
naliothKaoticEvil: in the view menu06:28
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KaoticEvilnalioth: i cant save the ones i want tho06:29
naliothKaoticEvil: tools > save profile06:29
KaoticEvilnalioth: i dont have that option06:29
naliothKaoticEvil: sorry, it's settings (dont you ever explore your menus?)06:30
KaoticEvilyeah, i do..06:30
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KaoticEvilhmmm.. that only allows me the option to overwrite existing setups :-\06:31
KaoticEvilthat kinda sux0rz.06:31
naliothKaoticEvil: have you saved A previous one?06:31
KaoticEvilnalioth: i cant.. it wont let me create a new profile.06:31
naliothyou are just overwriting the Default06:31
naliothdont creat anything06:32
KaoticEvilhmm.. save and rename, perhaps..06:32
KaoticEvilblah.. long way around..06:32
naliothKaoticEvil: i dont have those on my konq06:33
KaoticEviland the only one i can rename is "simple browsing" o_o06:33
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naliothKaoticEvil: you are in a browser, no?06:34
KaoticEvilyeah06:34
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KaoticEvili go Settings -> Configure View Profiles...06:34
LeeJunFanKaoticEvil: yeah, that's the new dumbed down menu. Lemme find the link that shows how to get your normal menus back again.06:34
naliothdont you want to save the browser settings as they ar now?06:34
KaoticEvilah, that would be great06:34
KaoticEvilnalioth: yeah.. but i want my oen name for it ;)06:34
naliothi've got the 'dumbed menus' and have 'save profile'06:34
naliothKaoticEvil: the default settings are easy to return to, and it's YOUR box and YOUR account. who else is gonna be naming it ?06:35
Niomihow do you set default browser in KDE?06:35
LeeJunFanhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7994106:35
KaoticEvilhey LeeJunFan :)06:35
LeeJunFanoops, that's for KaoticEvil 06:35
naliothKaoticEvil: i dont understand at all06:35
KaoticEvilnalioth: i want to create a new profile name.06:36
KaoticEvilcompletely different than the ones that are already there... but i also want to preserve the existing ones06:36
KaoticEvilhowever, if i go Settings -> Save View Profile "<foo>" it overwrites the existing one :-\06:37
naliothKaoticEvil: you are only overwriting the default06:37
naliothKaoticEvil: the default will forever be in /usr/lib/kde/blah06:38
KaoticEvilnalioth: i dont have the default profile loaded tho...06:38
naliothKaoticEvil: go to the URL LeeJunFan sent06:38
KaoticEvili did :)06:38
LeeJunFan!go menu06:38
ubotuhmm... go menu is Konqueror in kubuntu now has lamer menus, to restore konqueror to it's full powered menus visit http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79941 and follow the instructions there.06:38
KaoticEvilLOL!06:38
naliothi guess my thoughts are " why does KaoticEvil need more than one browsing profile?"06:38
KaoticEvilnalioth: because im difficult like that ;)06:39
naliothLeeJunFan: dont send that forum post any more06:39
LeeJunFanwhy?06:39
naliothLeeJunFan: there is an official one at kubuntu.org06:39
LeeJunFanwhere?06:39
naliothhttp://kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror06:40
naliothforums are full of unmoderated crackpots06:40
LeeJunFannalioth: no problem I'll change it now, thanks.06:40
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naliothKaoticEvil: WHY do you need more than one browsing profile?06:42
KaoticEvilnalioth: because i want a small menu in my panel that allows me to load a differnet konqi profile for file browsing, vs one for web browsing... different home pages and such :)06:42
naliothKaoticEvil: ummm make a new icon that has konqueror --profile filemanagement    as the command06:43
KaoticEvilnalioth: thats what i intend to do... but i want to get them setup the way i like first :)06:44
naliothKaoticEvil: better yet, type in a konsole "konqueror --help06:44
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LeeJunFannalioth: removing the "go" menu doesn't really make things easier to use either, having an easy to find way to get to Autostart is nice.06:44
naliothmake me crazed06:44
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LeeJunFanMandrake did tons of "dumbing down" stuff like that, which is why I'm now using kubuntu :-/06:46
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KaoticEvilLeeJunFan: i noticed that as well...06:46
KaoticEvilLOL nalioth.. some of us just like having things "just so"... im one of them :P06:46
LeeJunFanKaoticEvil: yeah, I don't think bein an expert should be a pre-requisite to have expert options. :)06:47
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KaoticEvilLeeJunFan: exactly! :)06:47
kdudehello!06:47
kdudeany samba gurus here?06:47
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naliothkdude: just ask your question06:48
LeeJunFanin any instance ubotu now understands 'go menu' and 'profiles' if anyone else asks.06:48
kdudeI have setup samba as a PDC. However, I can only login with username and nopassword, even though there is a password set.. WindowsXP is the client.06:48
kdudeI want a username:password login method.. what property is causing this?06:49
LeeJunFankdude: and you've set a password for samba with smbpasswd right?06:50
kdudeLeeJunFan: I think I did.. le'me reset it and try again.. smbpasswd right?06:51
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LeeJunFankdude: also - do you have any "auth methods =" in your /etc/samba/smb.conf?   ---- yes smbpasswd06:52
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LeeJunFankdude: smbpasswd [username]  to be exact.06:52
LeeJunFankdude: smbpasswd -a [username]  to add a user.06:52
kdudeLeeJunFan: I did smbpasswd -U'user'..06:53
kdudeLeeJunFan: it changed..06:53
kdudele'me try re-login again on windows. Brb.06:53
LeeJunFankdude: or that :)06:53
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LeeJunFanKaoticEvil: I see on my system with RC1 that Riddell has not setup the simplebrowser (at least yet) for RC1. There's an rc file for it in /usr/share/apps/konqueror though.06:56
kdudeLeeJunFan:  ;) your da bomb.. that worked..06:56
KaoticEvilLeeJunFan: cool...06:56
kdudeLeeJunFan: I thought that Unix->Samba syncrhonization supposed to take care of the username and the password..06:56
KaoticEvili may just go about hacking up the profile files themselves :P06:56
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kdudeLeeJunFan: I have one more problem.. I have another account, that is disabled by Samba, even though it is enabled in Linux..06:58
kdudeany suggestions>06:58
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LeeJunFankdude: it's disabled apparently. Has something to do with encryption - I haven't used it in years myself.06:58
LeeJunFankdude: you may just need to add them. smbpasswd -a [user] 06:58
kdudebut it is enabled in Linux.. that's what I use to logon to my linux box.06:58
djk_hi, booting dies at "starting hotplug subsytem" almost always on my laptop. what should i do?06:59
kdudeLeeJunFan: It is already added.. maybe I need to delete and add it again.06:59
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LeeJunFankdude: maybe just the passwd thing. Even though you can log in on linux smb might not have it in it's smbpasswd file.07:00
paineshi07:00
painesI bought myself a TFT ( before I had a crt), and now some of the fonts look crappy07:00
kdudeLeeJunFan: I tried the passwd thingi.. but it told me machine 127.0.0.1 rejected the (anonymous) password change: Error was : Account disabled.07:01
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painesantialising is on07:01
LeeJunFankdude: smbpassw -e [user] 07:01
LeeJunFankdude: to enable it.07:01
LeeJunFankdude: smbpasswd --help will show you a lot of options, 'man smbpasswd' will of course show you more in depth instructions for use.07:02
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kdudeLeeJunFan: that didn't work.07:02
LeeJunFankdude: I wonder if you can delete the user and re-add them, smbpasswd -x [user]  will remove their entry from the smbpasswd file.07:03
kdudeLeeJunFan: tried that already dude.. didn't work.07:05
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kdudeLeeJunFan: Kept getting the Account disabled message.07:05
kdudeLeeJunFan: Do you think it has anything to do with the unix groups the account is in?07:06
LeeJunFankdude: I dunno, I can't create that error here either by locking or unlocking the samba nor the unix username.07:07
kdudeit's in adm,admin,users..plus more.07:07
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LeeJunFankdude: I think it has to do with the password sync you turned on. It won't let smbpasswd change the system password I think.07:10
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LeeJunFankdude: I really haven't done much with password sync myself in recent years.07:11
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LeeJunFankdude: you may also want to look at options -i and -m in manpage for smbpasswd, as they correspond to PDC setup.07:14
kdudek07:15
LeeJunFansorry I can't be of more help.07:15
kdudeLeeJunFan: no prob man.. you helped me alot.. I did 'su' at the shell, ran the smbpasswd  -x user.. -a user.. and i got results..07:16
kdudeI didn't get results the lasttime..07:16
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kdudeit actually worked this time LeeJunFan: ..thanks again.07:17
kdudeI wasn't executing the commands as 'su'07:18
LeeJunFanah. cool.07:18
LeeJunFanhey, it's Knowerrors! look everyone Knowerrors is here! :)07:20
oracel:s07:20
LeeJunFanThere, now I can check that off my to-do list for today: "Make someone feel special"07:20
LeeJunFan:p07:20
KnowerrorsWooo Hooo, Ima soo spacial afeelin :)07:22
libbenhttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=2939807:23
LeeJunFanlol07:23
kdudeLeeJunFan: is there any synchronisation that creates the /profiles/username automatically? Or do I have to manually create that directory myself for each user I need roaming profile for?07:23
LeeJunFankdude: I beleive you have to add them manually.07:24
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LeeJunFankdude: that's so you don't end up giving samba access by default and giving it to someone who you don't want to have it.07:24
kdudeLeeJunFan: one more thing.07:25
KnowerrorsHey LeeJunFan: I just downloaded wine cvs overnight by modem, not sure if I got it all... got 35.8MB, any way to check if thats all?07:25
kdudeLeeJunFan: How do you give a user Administrative rights on WindowsXP when logged in to the samba PDC?07:26
LeeJunFanKnowerrors: go to the directory it created and run cvs update -PCd - to get anything missing or changed07:26
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LeeJunFankdude: got me on that one. :)07:27
kdudeLeeJunFan: :) hehe! Do you do any remote User/Domain administration?07:27
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LeeJunFankdude: very little. I try to avoid windows as much as possible.07:30
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LeeJunFankdude: I work with lots of unix servers. :)07:30
kdude;) hehe!!. I have no choice.. I use Visual Studio.Net..07:30
Flosoftdoes anyone know about KVIRC integration in Ubuntu? Y there is such an old version?07:30
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LeeJunFankdude: that's how I learn everything about windows - when I have no other choice.07:31
kdudeLeeJunFan: I was only wondering what's the best tool to remotely administer the Domain, and Users from a GUI mode, and not from console.07:31
Knowerrorsthx LeeJunFan , thats working, dlin more now07:32
LeeJunFankdude: might look into webmin for samba admin and config. There's also a program called SWAT that will change any option under the sun for samba.07:32
LeeJunFankdude: for either of those you will need to enable your linux root account by setting a password for root if you have not done so already.07:33
LeeJunFankdude: actually webmin you won't need to, that one you just need to put a password in.07:33
kdudeLeeJunFan: Webmin ha?... true.. I'll see what options webmin have.. I tried SRVTOOLS.EXE from microsoft..07:36
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kdudeit ran ok. loaded the domain, and users,, but it gave an error on the unix group.. saying no such group..07:36
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kdudei'll google srvtools.exe to see why that happened.. apart from that. i'll stick with webmin.. I like the srvtools.exe though cause it gives me a nice listview of users, and lot of options via windows.07:37
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kdudeanyways dude.. have to get some work done.. lata07:39
LeeJunFankdude: I think you have to make sure the user you are logging in as from windows is a member of a group that is defined as admin for the domain in your smb.conf.07:40
LeeJunFanlater.07:40
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Flosoftdoes anyone know about KVIRC integration in Ubuntu? Y there is such an old version?07:52
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onemanHi08:15
onemanCan someone provide me with the /etc/networking/interfaces file and /etc/apt/sources.list file, im writing a  quick howto to include for ubuntu/kubuntu users but i dont have it installed and I need to reference those files08:16
nalioth!sources08:16
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:16
freemanenchecking for KDE... configure: error:08:16
freemanenin the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.08:16
freemanenSo, check this please and use another prefix!08:16
freemanenwhat does this error mean?08:17
LeeJunFanoneman: I could give you mine, but they are configured for my system of course.08:17
onemanLeeJunFan, thats fine actualy because ive seen the originals so I can it close enough08:17
onemanthat would do me much good08:17
LeeJunFanoneman: how do you want them?08:17
onemanhttp://www.rafb.net/paste/08:18
naliothfreemanen: install kde-devel08:18
freemanenoki thanks08:19
naliothfreemanen: watch your priv msgs08:19
naliothubotu: tell freemanen about xincludes08:19
naliothfreemanen: those two bits of info SHOULD fix you up08:19
freemanen???08:19
LeeJunFanoneman: hrm, I just noticed my interfaces file is pretty much empty - I config my wireless with a script. :)08:19
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naliothfreemanen: the kde-devel and the priv msg from ubotu should fix you up08:20
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freemanenoki08:20
murray_when locking session, it seems like the kde screensaver kicks in08:20
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murray_is there a way to get xscreensaver instead?08:21
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Flosoftdoes anyone know about KVIRC integration in Ubuntu? Y there is such an old version?08:22
LeeJunFanoneman: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/U0goRB27.html08:22
naliothFlosoft: visit kubuntu.org and see about the newer ones08:23
coronahi in adept i am getting an error against the amarok package..it says BROKEN install and i cant remove it08:23
Flosoftwell there is none in the apt-get sources ...08:23
Flosoftthere is only 2.***08:23
Flosoftout @ the moment is 3.2008:23
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LeeJunFancorona: apt-get -f install amarok08:27
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coronaLeeJunFan: it says E: The package amarok needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.08:29
Flosoftis there anyone here that makes the list of apps that are each included in a Kubuntu Release?08:31
Flosoftso that anyone could update the release of KVIrc to 3.2008:31
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onemanLeeJunFan, thanks08:33
onemanhttp://industrialstrengthsolutions.com/ubuntu-centrino/08:33
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coronaLeeJunFan: its still borken :( and nothing seems to work08:33
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naliothcorona: where did you get amarok in the first place?08:34
coronafrom the kubuntu page i got 1.3.508:35
LeeJunFancorona: what about removing it with dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq amarok?08:35
coronai shall try that08:35
coronait says need an action option??? i dont understand08:37
LeeJunFancorona: add a -r in there08:37
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naliothcorona: then go get it again and use dpkg to install it08:38
naliothLeeJunFan: forcing is never a good option08:38
coronait removed it and said forcing is a bad idea...08:38
coronait also said always install and then remove..but then thats kind of funny ;)08:39
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coronai have both gstreamer and amarok 1.3.5 can someone give me the dpkg command so that it installs...i have been mucking around with adept and apt-get both were giving problems08:40
onemanLeeJunFan, can I get one more thing from you08:40
onemanLeeJunFan, can I get your /boot/grub/menu.lst 08:40
onemanOr if anyone has a nearly stock one ;] 08:41
naliothcorona: when you install and remove, it gets all the pieces that are left when you --force it08:41
coronaok so you mean i should install it and then remove it before finally installing it again...08:42
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onemanGah08:42
onemanAllmost done with this howto ;] 08:42
LeeJunFanoneman: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/eS10FT88.html08:44
onemanRad 08:44
onemanthanks!08:44
LeeJunFannp, I think that one is totally stock.08:44
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_thumper_Hi All, anyone else getting superkaramba crashing every now and then?08:48
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_thumper_On 3.5RC108:49
_thumper_Also, since the upgrade I've lost the icons in Kontact for mark as spam / not spam08:49
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LeeJunFan_thumper_: in the menu or on the message list?08:51
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LeeJunFan_thumper_: nevermind, they both work on mine anyway. The spam icons that is.08:54
onemanhttp://industrialstrengthsolutions.com/ubuntu-centrino/ << thanks its done08:54
onemanhope it helps someone08:54
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_thumper_LeeJunFan, it was on the menu bar08:57
LeeJunFan_thumper_: works for me.08:59
LeeJunFan_thumper_: are you using something other than crystal for your iconset?08:59
LeeJunFan_thumper_: also - is this for a new user account created after updating to RC1 or an existing one (which may have icons saved in the $HOME/.kde dir)?09:00
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_thumper_LeeJunFan, existing user.  Same one that it was installed with09:04
coronaanyone help me a bit with amarok?09:04
_thumper_Not sure on the icon set though09:04
LeeJunFan_thumper_: hrm, that's odd then.09:05
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manverucorona: what's your problem?09:05
coronamanveru: hi i shall paste it09:05
manverucorona: just give me a short description09:06
coronamanveru: it says SWFDEC: ERROR....tag func define font_2:langcode109:07
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coronamanveru: is it something to do with libtag?09:08
manverucorona: no, it looks like you want to play a flash-movie...09:09
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manverucorona: please try it at #amarok09:09
coronamanveru: ok09:10
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tobyDoes anyone know why, when I change my IP from DHCP to fixed, I lose my network connection? I am behind a router, and have my other PC (XP) on fixed IP.09:11
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manverutoby: this is how it works...09:12
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tobyi.e. if DHCP gives me 192.168.2.2 then I can connect fine, but if I choose 192.168.2.2 then I have no connection09:12
manverutoby: you get your network-config through dhcp - if you don't specify a gateway you have no connection09:12
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tobySo, under the 'routes' tab in my System Settings/Network Settings, I have 'Default Gateway IP: 192.168.2.1'. That is my router. Should I use the WAN gateway IP instead?09:13
toby(fwiw, on the other PC, I use 192.168.2.1)09:14
LeeJunFantoby: no - your router is right.09:14
LeeJunFantoby: can you ping your router?09:14
tobyGood question. I shall leave, try, and return....09:14
LeeJunFantoby: you may have your netmask set wrong, in which case if your subnet mask doesn't encompass the IP address of your router then your computer can't talk to your router.09:14
toby255.255.255.0 - pretty standard stuff09:15
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spiralhi09:15
tobybrb09:15
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tobyI'm back! Whether my IP is static or dynamic, when pinging my router, I get 'ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted'09:19
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manverudo it via sudo09:19
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tobymanveru: I tried that, but to no avail. Same message.09:20
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manveruhmm, not sure what this is then - maybe you could google it09:21
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LeeJunFantoby: do you have any type of firewall setup on your linux box?09:21
LeeJunFantoby: I think something set sysctl to not allow icmp or something.09:22
toby*reads /var/log/messages* *sees many ICMP packets* *slaps forehead*09:22
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tobyLeeJunFan: thx :D09:23
LeeJunFantoby: try this 'sysctl net.ipv4.icmp_echo_ignore_all'09:23
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liqshi all09:26
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liqscan someone please tell me why i cannot access my (ntfs) partitions from kubuntu even though they are mounted as rw?09:27
toby...test09:27
tobyam I disconnected?09:27
toby...test...09:27
manverupassed09:27
liqsit says either i have no permission (in KDE) or it was read only (console)09:27
sampanliqs, ntfs is "read only" 09:28
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liqsokay, but why can't i even read it then?09:28
tobyOkay, I09:29
sampanare the permissions set right?09:29
liqsi would say so, but i'm not sure09:29
liqswhat do you need to tell me if they're right?09:29
tobyOkay, I've opened my firewall and am able to ping my router when my IP is static. IRC and WWW do not work however.09:29
coronamanveru: hey i had this swfdec installed: a gstreamer plugin- removed it and it works now. thanks anyway09:30
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sampanliqs, have you mounted it?  manually, or is it in your fstab? 09:30
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liqsit's  in fstab, should i post the mountingoptions?09:31
sampanliqs, sure ... my fstab line for my ntfs partition is a simple one: /dev/hdb1       /media/windata     ntfs    umask=0222        0       009:32
liqsokay, mine is more complex... maybe i should just reduce it09:32
liqsdev/hda2 /windows/daten1 ntfs defaults,uid=0,gid=100,auto,rw,user 0 009:32
liqswhat does umask=0222 do?09:33
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sampanhrmmmmm ... i'm a newb, but maybe the defaults is what's doing it with the permissions... i'm not even sure what the umask=0222 does (too newb) but i got it from wiki's and faqs09:34
sampan:X09:34
liqsokay, i'll just try09:34
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palodequesoHow can I check to make sure my laptop cpu scaling is working?09:35
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sampanliqs, just doing some googling and umask=0222 gives users read-only access09:37
liqshm, i changed the line in fstab accordingly but after remounting it still says no permission09:39
sampanhrmmmm 09:39
liqsi'll read a bit about mounting, maybe it helps :)09:39
sampansometimes reading does wonders!  D:09:40
sampanerrrr :D09:40
liqsbtw,i got another problem. my soundcard is reported busy and all  output is rerouted to /dev/null09:40
TheVoxanybody else having trouble upgrading to kde3.5rc1?09:40
sampanliqs, what are the permissions on your /windows/daten1/ directory?  maybe all you need is to change that to 555 ?09:42
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liqsit also gives me an error due to read only09:43
Bicchithere is a program that i like but right now its on "universe candidate" wish list and not on the repositories. How long does it usually take before it goes into the repositories and be available to everyone.09:43
sampanliqs, can you do sudo chmod 555 /windows/daten1/  ?  09:44
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liqsno, same error09:48
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sampanweird ... i'm stumped (of course that's not saying much ... i get stumped with the easiest things in linux)09:52
liqsyeah, i know that feeling. knowing most intimate details in windows and then being unable to even access my files in linux...09:52
liqsbut it's sth new to learn :)09:53
sampanlol yeah ... it gets funny though when i actually do solve something, but then can't remember how or what i did to solve it09:53
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sampani feel like the proverbial monkeys banging on typewriters to produce shakespeare's plays -- eventually if i try everything something will work -- but i'll never be able to repeat it again :/09:54
liqshehe. well at least i have no hardware (except my soundcard) that doesn't work out of the box09:55
liqssuse was much worse in that respect09:55
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oracelI just tried out that 2.6.14 kernel with the ck5 patchset, I didn't notice any difference except the rubberband being even slower than usual, and that wifi didn't work09:56
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MTo.009:57
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liqsyeah :D10:00
liqsgot it10:00
liqsi just deletet the line from fstab and mounted manually10:01
liqsnow its at least readable for root10:01
MTmy eth0 wont enable, i try enabling it in kcontrol and it just reverts back to being disabled right before my eyes10:01
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_alessandrohellllo10:15
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LjLguys, i suppose kubuntu.org's kde 3.5rc1 repository is being updated, as my aptitude is trying to update a lot of packages but i get 404s for most of them?10:17
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callistodoes anyone else in here have an ati mobility card?10:18
funkyHatis amaroK working by default in breezy? or do i still need to install a different version/do other odd stuff?10:18
callistoit works for me amarok that is10:19
LjLi think it worked by default, but don't quite remember10:19
cryptomis there anyone from switzerland? how do I have to set LC_* in /etc/environment to get everything in english, except the characterlayout in swiss german and the possibility to write  10:20
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callistodoes anyone else experience freezes when they have 3d accel. and use the shortcut keys to switch between displays10:20
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che_benwaymy system stops during bootup when it gets to LOOKING UP NETWORK INTERFACES. Can anyone help?10:23
manverustops or just takes a long time?10:23
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che_benwaysorry. takes a VERY long time10:24
manveruthis is dhcp searching for a dhcp-server10:24
manveruyou can speed it up with setting a static ip-address if you don't use dhcp10:24
che_benwayok10:24
MTmy eth0 wont enable, i try enabling it in kcontrol and it just reverts back to being disabled right before my eyes10:25
manveruthis is done by the system-settings>network10:25
che_benwayi think i get assigned on by my ISP10:25
manveruche_benway: no, not for eth0 i would say10:25
manveruMT: common bug... tho i don't know if it isn't solved already10:26
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MTwell is there an easy workaround? :-/10:27
che_benwaymanveru: i am in settings now. the only options i have are dhcp and boot p10:27
Firetechis 3.5rc1 stable enough for everyday use?10:27
manveruFiretech: for every-day crashes maybe :)10:27
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manveruMT: searching for a bugfix, the only workaround i know is editing your network-config by hand10:28
che_benwaymanveru: should i change to bootp?10:28
MT:-[10:28
manveruche_benway: not sure what you are seeing at the moment10:28
MTother than that kubuntu is mighty slick10:28
manveruche_benway: how does your network-setup look like? how do you connect to the internet?10:29
che_benwaymanveru:10:29
che_benwaymanveru: i have a broadband connection. always on10:29
che_benwayin network settings i have the following:10:29
che_benwayAutomatic - DHCP or BOOTP. And Maunal ( ip address and netmask)10:30
manveruche_benway: what kind of broadband?10:30
manveruche_benway: satellite, adsl, cable?10:30
liqsif i convert my ntfs-partitions to fat32 i should be able to read/write from both windows and linux, right? if so, how do i do it, without loosing data10:30
che_benwaycable10:30
che_benwaymanveru: cable10:31
manveruche_benway: so dhcp should work for you i guess10:31
manveruche_benway: have no experience with cable, you know :) i don't know how you connect10:31
KaoticEvilhey everyone :)10:31
Firetechmanveru: does it crash a lot?10:31
manveruche_benway: but i guess you should set it to manual (ip-address 192.168.0.1)10:32
manveruhey KaoticEvil could use some help :)10:32
che_benwaymanveru: it worked fine up till Friday. My ISP disconnected my service. I got it installed today but then i geth this issue on booting up10:32
KaoticEvilmanveru: uhh.. i dont know if im the one to ask.. but i can try :)10:32
manveruFiretech: not sure, didn't try, it's only what i have heard10:32
manveruliqs: you should be able to read/write without converting them (wich is not gonna work without formatting)10:32
che_benwayOh. The other thing. My network card blew (not sure how). But I replaced it and got a  connection10:33
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liqsmanveru: well atm i can mount & read as root, and do nothing as user10:33
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manveruliqs: did you read the forums and wiki on ntfs?10:34
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MTnow all thats left is to get ipcop to go online :/10:34
manveruche_benway: well, this might be your new card looking for a address10:34
manveruche_benway: just give it one, doesn't matter when it gets another one later on10:35
liqsmanveru: wiki didn't really tell me much about ntfs, where do i find the forums?10:35
manveruMT: still searching :) i'm a bit busy here ^^10:35
che_benwaymanveru: ok. will try that. thanks for all your help10:35
manveruliqs: http://www.ubuntuforums.org10:36
Noairesanybody try building wine from cvs, and get to the end where it asks for root password?  it doesn't accept the sudo password and fails... whats up here?10:36
liqsthx manveru :) *wandering off to the forums*10:37
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manveruMT: found a good article for you http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-82258.html10:37
manverupuh... now to you Noaires :)10:38
manverudid you follow the instructions from the wiki for wine?10:38
pv_there are debs for wine on winehq.org10:39
manveruyeah... are they built daily?10:39
Noairesno, Im using this howto: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996&highlight=Internet+Explorer+Wine10:39
MTthanks manveru10:40
manveruInternet Explorer works in wine??10:40
Noairesyeah, hehe, you didn't know that?!!!10:40
manverukinda cool :)10:40
manverui've never used wine...10:40
NoairesI fixed it, had to do sudo make install10:40
pv_they are quite recent, 0.9.1 or so. 10:40
MTie in wine? what a waste :P10:40
manveruthat means - i've never got deeper than installing it10:40
Noairesthey assume you have a root account with the cvs install10:40
manveruNoaires: just do sudo -i before10:41
NoairesMT: some websites just won't run w/o IE, especially many finanical or ecommerce sites, also good for testing web pages I make myself10:41
Noaires90% or so of net users are on IE10:42
manveruindeed10:42
manverui have a windows-pc standing here for that...10:42
manverunever thought about running it in wine10:42
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MT90%?10:42
MTits 85 now :P10:42
manveruMT: depends on the page :)10:43
manveruthink /. is down to 50% by now10:43
MTwell /. is a bunch of leftist geeks ;)10:43
manveru^^10:43
manverueven my parents use firefox now10:44
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MTmy grandpa uses it :P10:44
notechhi10:44
MTand my dad, which was the hardest10:45
MThi notech10:45
manveruwell, getting them to linux might prove impossible10:45
NoairesHey manveru: how bout this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89854 ?10:45
notechcould you suggest me some repositories to add to sources.list where i can find more software?10:45
MTmanveru10:45
MTim slowly working them to linux10:45
Noairesmy folks are already on linux10:46
manveruubotu: tell notech about repositories10:46
MTwell my family never noticed when i switched thunderbird in for outlook10:46
manveruMT: it's hard to do - but almost every software they run now is OS10:46
manveruNoaires: what is this link for? :)10:47
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MTmanveru, my family absolutely LOVES openoffice and the other oss stuff10:49
liqsmanveru: thanks for the hint to the forum. i found a way to mount my disk at least readable to all users10:49
manveruMT: yeah, especially since i promised them to repair their system if they only use the softare i provide them10:49
manveruMT: but my sister is die-hard-windows-user10:50
Noairesmanveru: need help fixing question posted there :)10:50
notechanyone know how to resolve this kubuntu 5.10 bug:  ...10:50
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manveruNoaires: sorry, but i have no clue :)10:51
manveruNoaires: but SCSI-emulation for USB???10:52
Noairesthx, I keep asking twice a day til someone does10:52
manveruNoaires: last time i saw something like that was years ago for my cd-burner10:52
notechin system settings-login manager for example i cant change nothing! i need to be root privileges but if i tap onto root button after typing psw i can't change nothing again!10:52
Noairesdon't know, though thats how linux treated a usb disk...10:53
notechany ideas how to solve?10:53
manverunotech: same problem like ~200 others10:53
notech:)10:53
manverusomebody messed up the system-settings10:53
notechit is not fun.. :/10:54
manveruand now everyone has a buggy thing lying around (wich works for 20% though)10:54
manverui know...10:54
notechso no fix for now?10:54
manveruyou have to go the traditional way i fear10:54
notechsorry,i am really new to linux! even dont know about reposiories,really dont know a 'traditional way'10:55
manverunotech: well, you are in the right channel for questions about it10:56
MTnotech, you have to dive into config files :-/10:56
notech:) 10:56
notech:/10:56
manverui gave you already info about repositories10:56
manverunow, what do you want to do with the system-settings-menu?10:56
notechabout repositories: i have enabled all repositories in synaptics,done a refresh..10:56
notechbut i can't find for example chromium ( a game)10:57
notechis it on another rep.? hoe do i find what rep?10:57
manveru!info chromium10:57
ubotuchromium: (Fast paced, arcade-style, scrolling space shooter), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-7ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 104 kB, Installed size: 424 kB10:58
notechsorry to bother u10:58
notechi do in console: sudo apt-get install chromium but it finds nothing10:58
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manveruok10:58
manverucould you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to http://rafb.net/paste ?10:58
nalioth!info chromium10:59
ubotuchromium: (Fast paced, arcade-style, scrolling space shooter), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-7ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 104 kB, Installed size: 424 kB10:59
notechdone..11:00
manverunalioth: please take over here... need to finish some work asap11:00
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notechis something wrond with my sources.list?11:00
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manverunotech: paste the url here - have to go, sorry11:01
notechhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/bF7VWi86.html11:01
notechsorry11:01
LeeJunFannotech: you uncommentd the src universe but not the regular one.11:01
LeeJunFanline 2011:01
notech;) i presume this is my problem? thanx..11:02
LeeJunFannotech: yeah, should be. np.11:02
notechGreat! :)11:03
naliothmanveru: take over what?11:03
notech:) other question..in konqueror i can't edit sources.list so i start konsole and type sudo kate11:04
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notechthen navigate to the file and edit it!11:04
{slacky}hello I installed KUbuntu11:04
{slacky}but now I want to upgrade to the last packages11:04
MTso did i!11:04
notechwhen i close kate,and try to run again i receive an error!11:04
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{slacky}I start the apgrade but the system ask me the root password11:05
notechi need to restart pc all the times to start kate again!11:05
{slacky}I never defined a "root" password11:05
manverunotech: use 'kdesu kate'11:05
{slacky}what can I do?11:05
notechthank you11:05
chaoticgeekhello all11:05
manveru{slacky}: input your user-password11:05
manveruubotu: tell {slacky} about root11:05
manveruhmm, got finished earlier than i imagined :)11:05
chaoticgeekkate is working again for me11:05
{slacky}manveru: thank you11:06
{slacky}it works :D11:06
manverushould i add "kate is working again for me" to famous last words? :)11:06
naliothslow-motion: there is no root password, use your user password11:06
djk_manveru: most certainly :p11:07
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{slacky}updating all the system stuff I can always get the last release of all the system as for slackware-current or I need to reinstall KUbunto between 6 month with the new release?11:08
notechbut this is not happening only with kate, with konqueror,etc.. too! i always need to restart pc to start something..is this couse bad command i use?11:08
manverunotech: i already said, use 'kdesu kate' or 'kdesu konqueror' instead of sudo11:08
notechsudo is really this bad? thank u.11:09
manveru{slacky}: you can upgrade to the next distro with ease11:09
manverunotech: not bad... but not fitting for graphical apps11:09
manverunotech: btw, there is the right-click>run/edit-as-root11:10
manveruin konqueror11:10
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{slacky}with the system upgrade I can get KDE 3.5.0 when it will be in final release directly from the repository or not?11:10
notechreally? :) didnt know..i said i am new to linux! thank u manveru11:10
manverunotech: np - this channel is how i learned about it as well :)11:11
naliothnotech: you'll think "this bad" when your system starts throwing errors, cuz it can't write to your own files (cuz root ate the permissions)11:11
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manveru{slacky}: you can use dist-upgrade for it later11:11
notechthis is a great channel!11:11
notechand i have  too many questions!11:11
manveru{slacky}: and you can install kde 3.5 before, but on your very own risk11:11
LeeJunFannotech: look at it this way, if sudo eats your permissions you'll learn how to fix more stuff :)11:12
{slacky}manveru: I read the the KDE 3.5.0 packets for KUbuntu has a lot of problems11:12
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notechi have a partition (hda 0,0) to mount,how do i?11:12
manveru{slacky}: of course they have - it is still the RC111:12
LeeJunFanI'm running 3.5 w/o too much problem.11:12
manveruLeeJunFan: but you know how to handle problems if they arise :)11:13
LeeJunFanyeah, I wouldn't rec giving 3.5rc1 to a newbie.11:13
{slacky}LeeJunFan: I'm not a newbie, but for KUbuntu yes11:14
{slacky}LeeJunFan: I use Linux from 3,5 years11:14
{slacky}I use Slackware and I'm installing KUbuntu on my friend PC11:14
LeeJunFan{slacky}: ah, then you could probably put up with or fix it yourself pretty well too.11:14
{slacky}so I just want to know if it's simply to update it with me11:15
{slacky}so I just want to know if it's simply to update it without me11:15
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LeeJunFan{slacky}: only problem I really had was konqueror crashing on mouse-over icon, when I figured out it was related to sound preview I just turned that feature off.11:15
notechcan someone help me with mount command?11:15
{slacky}I don't want my friend tell me: "damn you and Linux" :D11:15
manveruubotu: tell notech about mount11:16
notechi need to mount a windows part. (hd0,0) i type mount .. then?11:16
{slacky}I get KUbuntu at aKademy this year11:16
notech:)11:16
{slacky}so I tryed the live CD11:16
notech!windowsdrives11:16
ubotuit has been said that windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions11:16
{slacky}so now I installed it on my friend PC to let him know Linux11:16
{slacky}I get the 5.10 DVD11:17
LeeJunFannotech: mount /dev/hda1 [where you want it mouted]  - but there are a lot of options available with mount for that too. try 'man mount'11:17
{slacky}I've got a strange problem anyway11:17
{slacky}when I reboot the system11:17
{slacky}I get no outpunt on video11:17
{slacky}I have to halt it11:18
LeeJunFanI get to put kubuntu in the face of thousands in a month or so when I setup our local library with kubuntu terminal servers :)11:18
{slacky}wait for 10-20 seconds11:18
{slacky}and start up the PC again11:18
manveruLeeJunFan: using the ff-kiosk?11:18
LeeJunFanmanveru: no, I'm doing it all by hand. But what is the ff-kiosk?11:19
manveruLeeJunFan: oh, guess it is different use :) - for letting people surf the web without getting access to the real stuff11:19
FastElbowdoes anyone using  kubuntu remote with xdmcp on a  windowsxp pc11:20
manveru{slacky}: what gfx-card?11:20
LeeJunFanmanveru: I will probably setup the patron profile with kiosktool for kde to lock out some stuff, but most of the patron user will be read only anyway.11:20
{slacky}manveru: it's an ATI Radeon 920011:21
manveruLeeJunFan: ah, k... heard it is a great tool (and there are even services providing a free virtual kde over nomachine using it)11:21
{slacky}why kmail and knode is not into KDE menu?11:21
{slacky}why kmail and knode are not into KDE menu?11:21
manveruthey are integrated in kontact11:21
{slacky}ah ok11:22
manveruuhm11:22
manveruno, wait - not knode11:22
manveruor maybe? ... never used it... :)11:22
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{slacky}manveru: is there a default firewall on KUbuntu?11:22
manveru{slacky}: it is in kontact11:22
manverunot the firewall of course11:23
djk_{slacky}: iptables..11:23
manveru!firestarter11:23
ubotuI heard firestarter is Ubuntu has, like every other Linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is Firestarter, which can be installed via Breezy's "Add Applications" or Synaptic11:23
LeeJunFanyeah, knode is.11:23
notechhey,again me! :) could u redirect me to a good link about demons? is this right? the 'services' running on my pc at startup?11:23
notechwhat can i remove? how to optimize it ?11:23
notechthank u11:23
manverunotech: this is very deep stuff :)11:24
notechohh..11:24
{slacky}djk_: yes I know about iptables :P11:24
slow-motion<nalioth> slow-motion: there is no root password, use your user password < do you mean me?11:24
{slacky}I was just asking if KUbuntu used a default firewall like SuSE does :)11:24
LeeJunFannotech: http://ubuntuguide.org/#permanentlydisableenableboot-upservices11:24
{slacky}thank you for your reply11:24
manveru{slacky}: no, it only has a favored gui to iptables i guess11:25
notechthanx will see11:25
{slacky}manveru: do you know when will be updated the repository for OpenOffice?11:26
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{slacky}I've got OO 1.9.129 on KUbuntu 5.1011:26
manverulemme check my version11:27
{slacky}OO 2.0 was released11:27
manveruyeah... i have 2.0 on my computer, but what version it is...11:27
brodelwhen I run OO it says 2.011:27
manveruthe 1.9 was 2.0 already as well11:27
naliothslow-motion: no sorry, i misfired at the weirdo with the weird nick11:27
djk_{slacky}: OOo 2 would be 1.9.137 or something like that11:28
nalioth{slacky}: kubuntu doesnt need a firewall11:28
manveru1.9.129 is mine11:28
jorgenDoes any one know anything about what low dns lookup sucess in konqueror can be caused by. Its not a problem in firefox11:28
{slacky}nalioth: why kubuntu doesn't need a firewall?11:28
brodelthat's weird.. it says 2.0, but on help about it says 1.911:29
djk_{slacky}: because there aren't any ports open by default i suppose11:29
djk_brodel: it's not weird, it's normal11:29
manveru1.9 is the dev-version for every 2.011:29
{slacky}nalioth: I want to keep people away form the pc. Anycase I set the rules on my own I know how to do :)11:29
djk_and 1.9.137 i think it was became OOo2.0 final11:29
bimberi!ooo211:29
ubotuTest packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html11:29
bimberi^^^^ packages for OOo2 final :)11:30
{slacky}manveru: yes I know, so 1-2 weeks and there will be OO 2.0.0 in the KUbuntu repository?11:30
brodelstill seems weird to me.11:31
djk_brodel: it's standard developing procedure..11:31
manveruevery x.even is a stable version11:33
manveruso 1.9 is the unstable for 2.011:33
FastElbowdoes anyone succesfull use xdmcp with kubuntu?11:33
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manveruFastElbow: no... never did11:34
manveruFastElbow: do you do muay-thai? :)11:34
FastElbownope11:35
manverunice nick anyway11:35
LeeJunFanFastElbow: it's broken11:35
LeeJunFanFastElbow: you'll have to use RC111:36
FastElbowthnx11:36
LeeJunFanFastElbow: np, I blew a whole saturday working on it to find out it didn't work :)11:36
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FastElbowi'l wait for the nxt update11:36
FastElbowi needed a week to find out11:37
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FastElbowis nx a option?11:37
LeeJunFanFastElbow: I've never used it but I've heard others who failed with xdmcp say they used that instead.11:38
FastElbow is there a free version11:38
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LeeJunFanFastElbow: freenx :)11:39
FastElbow:-D11:39
liqsis there any way to "upmix" stereosound to play it on all 5 channels + subwoofer? i'm using the terratec aureon universe11:39
manveruliqs: use kmix11:40
liqsi activated all channels, but theres still only sound coming from left and right front11:41
notechGreat channel! Thank u to all11:43
manveruliqs: try alsamixer11:44
FastElbowLeeJunFan: what would you prefere, nx or xdmcp? 11:44
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LeeJunFanFastElbow: I've never used nx yet, so I really don't kow. I like xdmcp, that I know.11:44
FastElbowok11:45
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liqsi'll try that tomorrow11:45
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liqsthanks, you helped me alot :)11:45
liqsgn8 all11:46
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gibarianHi...is there any way for KDE to distinguish between various USB connected devices?11:47
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{slacky}thank all of you my KUbuntu rocks :D11:48
brodelhow can I tell where a program is stored? I am looking to install flash player for konqueror and it is asking me where it is installed.. and I don't know what to tell it.11:49
djk_brodel: locate libflashplayer.so11:50
djk_type that in a konsole..11:50
djk_eh. better without the .so11:51
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brodelthat's where I have the install files. It's asking for the location of the browser (I think)11:52
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JustinSG'morning all (it's almost 8am here) .. I've had Kubuntu installed on this box (basic x86, w/SB Live card). My sound is nonexistant. In Kaffine I get "Can't init Audio Driver "alsasink' - trying another one" / "No useable Audio Driver found" and with XMMS it hands me either "check if something is using your sound driver" or .. it plays fine .. w/no sound .. help?11:52
naliothbrodel: use ~/.mozilla/plugins/11:53
{slacky}bye bye11:53
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djk_brodel: well, it installed libflashplayer.so for mozilla and opera here, in their plugin directories..11:53
_luiswhy is it so hard to connect a printer. I have a Samsung ML-1740. I have a ppd file but the test page never goes through. 11:53
brodelI haven't installed it yet though. that's what I'm trying to do11:53
djk_nalioth: that'd require that he installed it for mozilla though..11:53
naliothdjk_: if it installs in ~/.mozilla/plugins EVERY gecko browser will use it11:53
djk_brodel: locate flashinstaller or whatever the name of the file was...11:54
naliothiirc, konqueror can use it from there, also11:54
djk_nalioth: well yes, but he doesn't have to install it for mozilla when he starts the flashinstaller.11:54
brodel"WARNING: /home/brodel/flashplayer7/install_flash_player_7_linux/~./mozilla/plugins/ is not a directory."11:55
naliothbrodel: you may have to make those directories before you start11:55
brodelrgr11:55
djk_brodel: didn't you follow the instructions on the flash site?11:55
naliothbrodel: and its /home/brodel/.mozilla/plugins11:55
naliothbrodel: dots are important in their placement11:56
brodelwell the flash site assumes that the install just goes..11:56
brodelmine asks questions I don't know answers to11:56
djk_for example?11:56
JustinSHow do I tell alsa to use my sb card instead of the onboard card (that's disabled via bios) ..11:57
brodelhttp://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash11:57
djk_doesn't the installer just ask for which browser you want to install it and if you want it installed for every person?11:57
brodelI am at 4.. then it just goes to 5 saying "after it's done.."11:57
JustinSis it alsa-config or alsa?11:57
djk_brodel: well cd to install_flash_player_7_linux then and start the installation11:58
brodelthat's what I did..11:58
brodelthat's how I got here11:59
djk_brodel: okay, and now type ./flashplayer-installer11:59
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djk_brodel: don't forget to shut down all open browsers.11:59
brodelright.. I've done that12:00
brodeland now it's asking me for the path12:00
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djk_path of?12:00
=== JustinS as nalioth said . "/home/brodel/.mozilla/plugins" .. I'd imagine ..
slow-motionn812:01
JustinSAnyone know how to tell alsa to use my SB card instead of the onboard Intel card it's looking at now?12:01
brodelhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/42968112:01
brodelthat's what I did..12:01
naliothbrodel: it shows you did nothing12:02
brodelit shows me asking for the path12:03
brodelerr12:03
JustinSyou never told it .. "/home/brodel/.mozilla/plugins" . just left it at it's default .12:03
brodelit shows it asking ME for it12:03

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