[12:03] <chaoticgeek> ok I am at this topic http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584 trying to find out how to install the new drivers for my fresh install
[12:04] <chaoticgeek> Currently I can not start up kde upon a fresh boot, or using startx
[12:05] <nalioth> mae: check at freshmeat.net or www.deviantart.com
[12:06] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: something is devinately not right. From a fresh boot you should at least have video, fglrx is just to give you accelerated 3d.
[12:06] <LeeJunFan> definately even :)
[12:07] <LeeJunFan> What's with this channel and all the chaotic or kaotic people anyway :)
[12:07] <chaoticgeek> nugget was in use
[12:08] <chaoticgeek> ok well I got something and I'm going to go try it
[12:08] <LeeJunFan> yeah, chaoticnugget just wouldn't have the same ring... ;-)
[12:08] <chaoticgeek> no just plain nugget
[12:08] <chaoticgeek> ...
[12:10] <djk_> LeeJunFan: you made him leave :p
[12:10] <djk_> is there a way to configure the kde clock in the konsole? it won't let me via kde on that laptop
[12:12] <LeeJunFan> I guess. Sensetive fellow :)
[12:12] <djk_> LeeJunFan: you were mean :p he only wanted to be a nugget :(
[12:13] <LeeJunFan> what color? :)
[12:13] <djk_> golden brown i suppose ;)
[12:19] <troy> how well do the wine packages integrate into kubuntu?
[12:20] <djk_> mmh, kubuntu booted fine a few times on the laptop, but now it's dying on starting hotplug subsystem
[12:20] <djk_> troy: i've used wine on hoary and it worked nicely
[12:20] <KaoticEvil> no joy.
[12:21] <troy> djk_: did you have to do a lot of work to get it installed? will it try to run windows apps automagically?
[12:21] <KaoticEvil> LeeJunFan: even when i used the kil command you gave me, it stil said /home was in use
[12:21] <Knowerrors> Can anyone help with this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89854
[12:23] <djk_> troy: i just had to use apt to install it and well, the programs that wine can run, ran
[12:23] <LeeJunFan> KaoticEvil: did you try kill -9?
[12:23] <LeeJunFan> KaoticEvil: maybe run it as root?
[12:23] <KaoticEvil> LeeJunFan: i was logged in as root from the console ;)
[12:23] <KaoticEvil> and yes, i tried kill -9 as well
[12:23] <LeeJunFan> Man, we are getting 80mph wind gusts here right now :(
[12:24] <LeeJunFan> try running 'lsof -n | egrep /home | awk '{print $2}' | sort -n | uniq' again and see if it lists anything.
[12:24] <troy> djk_: perfect, thanks :)
[12:25] <KaoticEvil> LeeJunFan: i did... it showed nothing...
[12:25] <djk_> troy: you're welcome
[12:26] <djk_> LeeJunFan: any idea why it would stop at "starting hotplug subsystem" during booting that damn laptop ?
[12:26] <LeeJunFan> try fuser -m /dev/hdaX - where X is the # of /home
[12:26] <LeeJunFan> djk_: no, but it normally will hang there for at least 10 seconds.
[12:28] <djk_> LeeJunFan: mmh, i've been waiting for much longer 
[12:29] <LeeJunFan> KaoticEvil: fuser -k -m /dev/hdaX will accomplish that whole damn for.... kill ... done line I gave you. heheh
[12:29] <KaoticEvil> lol LeeJunFan... seems thats a lil simpler ;)
[12:30] <KaoticEvil> LeeJunFan: ill write it down, and try it a lil later...
[12:30] <KaoticEvil> in the middle of another project... helping a friend o.o
[12:30] <LeeJunFan> okay, I gotta go out and brave the wind now. later everyone.
[12:31] <KaoticEvil> later LeeJunFan 
[12:31] <jstrauss> Hi, first time on IRC.  Why are kubuntu's wireless interface names eth0, eth2 instead of wlan0
[12:37] <chaoticgeek> arg
[12:37] <chaoticgeek> it didnt work
[12:41] <chaoticgeek> ok when I boot up to kubuntu it goes to the splash screen and does the ok stuff
[12:41] <chaoticgeek> then it goes to the console black w/ white text and it stops at battery check       [ok] 
[12:42] <chaoticgeek> and I let it sit the for a half hour and nothing happened
[12:42] <chaoticgeek> and no one is here to help me
[12:49] <arcanistherogue> hey, in KDE how do you add those folder buttons to the panel?
[12:49] <arcanistherogue> like the system menu
[12:49] <arcanistherogue> that is there by default
[12:49] <arcanistherogue> I want to make ones like that but with custom shortcuts in them
[12:50] <JasonM> wtf?
[12:50] <chaoticgeek> hi
[12:50] <kairu0> hey
[12:50] <kairu0> damn i'm loving kde right now
[12:51] <KaoticEvil> lol kairu0 
[12:51] <KaoticEvil> got rc1 installed, kairu0 ?
[12:52] <kairu0> nope
[12:53] <kairu0> i think i'll wait for the final release
[12:53] <kairu0> im in the middle of a big project and i cant afford to break my installation
[12:53] <DrGayus> is there a temperature monitoring for HDD smart
[12:53] <DrGayus> *and fan control
[12:53] <kairu0> KaoticEvil, did you?
[12:53] <KaoticEvil> DrGayus: afaik, temp monitor isnt part of SMART...
[12:54] <KaoticEvil> kairu0: yup :) sure did
[12:54] <kairu0> how is she?
[12:54] <KaoticEvil> great so far
[12:54] <kairu0> what is great
[12:54] <KaoticEvil> not a problem at all.. except during the install..
[12:54] <kairu0> compared to kde 3.4
[12:54] <KaoticEvil> one of the packages didnt want to isntall correctly... had to manually install it
[12:55] <slow-motion> n8
[12:56] <KaoticEvil> kairu0: as far as *i* can tell, not a whole lot other than LookNFeel options... but im sure there are thousands of lines of code that are different.. im just not advanced enough to know :)
[12:56] <kairu0> is it faster?
[12:56] <KaoticEvil> kairu0: seems to be, and on my machine, every little bit counts :)
[12:56] <kairu0> KaoticEvil, pentium 60?
[12:56] <kairu0> j/k
[12:57] <KaoticEvil> kairu0: close.. Celeron 400MHz (100MHz FSB) :(
[12:57] <kairu0> thats pretty sad
[12:57] <KaoticEvil> yeah, iknoiw
[12:57] <KaoticEvil> know*
[12:57] <chaoticgeek> ok when I boot up to kubuntu it goes to the splash screen and does the ok stuff
[12:57] <KaoticEvil> and whats worse.. ive only got 128MB of RAM :(
[12:57] <chaoticgeek> then it goes to the console black w/ white text and it stops at battery check       [ok] 
[12:57] <kairu0> KaoticEvil, thats really sad
[12:58] <KaoticEvil> kairu0: yeah, i know
[12:58] <kairu0> chaoticgeek, push ctrl+c
[12:58] <KaoticEvil> i miss my dual Athlon MP2200 ssytem :(
[12:58] <chaoticgeek> ok
[12:58] <kairu0> KaoticEvil, what happened to it
[12:58] <KaoticEvil> system*
[12:58] <chaoticgeek> I'll be back if it does not work
[12:58] <KaoticEvil> kairu0: i went to jail. it got parted out
[12:58] <kairu0> chaoticgeek, you might be having a problem launching X 
[12:58] <kairu0> oops too late
[12:58] <kairu0> KaoticEvil, you serious??
[12:58] <KaoticEvil> kairu0: as a heart attack
[12:59] <kairu0> KaoticEvil, whyd you go to jail
[12:59] <KaoticEvil> had 1GB of PC2100 DDR, Registered/ECC, nearly 1TB of hard drive space.. i spent well over $4,000 building it
[12:59] <KaoticEvil> kairu0: hot checks :PO
[12:59] <kairu0> lol
[12:59] <kairu0> i did time for burning a baby alive once
[01:00] <kairu0> and then squeezing its heart in my fingertips
[01:00] <KaoticEvil> thats sick.
[01:00] <kairu0> lol
[01:00] <kairu0> no that was just the movie i watched last nite
[01:08] <chaoticgeek> ok ctrl-c did not work
[01:08] <DrGayus> kaoticevil: can i get your 1TB ?
[01:08] <chaoticgeek> I also tried ctrl/alt-d
[01:08] <chaoticgeek> alt-c
[01:09] <chaoticgeek> ctrl+alt-c and d
[01:09] <kairu0> chaoticgeek, i think you have a problem starting x
[01:09] <djk_> how do i delete a ppp connection created with pppoeconf?
[01:09] <kairu0> battery state is one of the last things to load before x starts
[01:10] <KaoticEvil> DrGayus: no. i dont even have it anymore
[01:10] <chaoticgeek> crap
[01:12] <kairu0> chaoticgeek, once i had a problem like that and it was caused by a bug in the x mouse driver. i also got that problem 1 time when i installed ifplugd
[01:12] <chaoticgeek> ok
[01:12] <chaoticgeek> umm 
[01:12] <chaoticgeek> I dont follow you
[01:14] <kairu0> well.. when did this start happening
[01:14] <chaoticgeek> I just installed it
[01:14] <kairu0> you've never gotten into X?
[01:14] <chaoticgeek> I did go and start recovery mode and do "apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx"
[01:14] <chaoticgeek> no
[01:14] <chaoticgeek> yes
[01:14] <chaoticgeek> correct
[01:15] <kairu0> ahhh so its probably an ati driver problem
[01:15] <chaoticgeek> ya thats what I was thinking
[01:15] <kairu0> ok, so you arent getting into x because the video driver is failing to load
[01:15] <chaoticgeek> But on the forums I did not see anything like this
[01:15] <kairu0> i dont have an ati card so i really know nothing about how to install your drivers
[01:16] <chaoticgeek> and there were a million ways to do it so I was so confused
[01:16] <kairu0> but i see it a lot on ubuntuforums.org. i would search for other people with your problem there
[01:16] <chaoticgeek> one way you have to recompile your entire kernal
[01:16] <chaoticgeek> another you dont
[01:16] <kairu0> search for "x won't load ati driver" or something like that
[01:16] <chaoticgeek> ok thanks
[01:16] <kairu0> good luck
[01:17] <kairu0> there may even be a HOWTO for installing ati drivers
[01:17] <KaoticEvil> chaoticgeek: have you tried editing your xorg.conf file?
[01:17] <chaoticgeek> no
[01:18] <KaoticEvil> chaoticgeek: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[01:18] <KaoticEvil> err... hang on.. its not xorg
[01:19] <KaoticEvil> shit.. what is it?
[01:19] <chaoticgeek> ok well I am trying to do all this problem stuff through my windows partion
[01:20] <kairu0> its xservers-xorg? or something right?
[01:20] <kairu0> chaoticgeek, you wont be able to. 
[01:20] <kairu0> chaoticgeek, youll have to be in linux
[01:21] <chaoticgeek> I know
[01:21] <KaoticEvil> thats it... chaoticgeek: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:21] <KaoticEvil> thats the one :)
[01:21] <chaoticgeek> I'm getttin the ideas and trying to find out what to do through windows then I reboot and
[01:21] <chaoticgeek> start it all over again
[01:21] <kairu0> chaoticgeek, i see
[01:21] <KaoticEvil> chaoticgeek: you should be able to change the driver that X is using thru the x-configure program using the command i just gave you :)
[01:22] <KaoticEvil> it worked for me :)
[01:22] <chaoticgeek> ok
[01:22] <chaoticgeek> I'll be back if it does not work
[01:22] <KaoticEvil> other than that... try in #ubuntu as well
[01:22] <KaoticEvil> its a more active channel than this one... nevermind, youre gone
[01:23] <etam> hi, where is the wep configuration file?
[01:25] <diegooooo> hi
[01:26] <etam> hi
[01:26] <etam> diegooooo: do you know what file has configuration about wifi wep key?
[01:26] <diegooooo> hi
[01:27] <diegooooo> i don't
[01:27] <diegooooo> i'm a newbie of kubuntu and i need a big help
[01:27] <etam> what kind of?
[01:27] <diegooooo> how can i see root user? (i have the latest ppc version)
[01:27] <diegooooo> i install it
[01:28] <etam> i dont know as well ;)
[01:28] <diegooooo> then i can access with My user
[01:28] <diegooooo> but to connect with kppp i need to have privileges
[01:28] <diegooooo> so i can't connect
[01:28] <diegooooo> tha sux
[01:28] <diegooooo> i actually don't know why i try kubuntu, just to try if works well as on intel
[01:29] <diegooooo> but macosx is better done :)
[01:29] <KaoticEvil> ubotu: tell diegooooo about sudo
[01:29] <etam> ubotu: tell etam about sudo
[01:29] <KaoticEvil> diegooooo: read what ubotu just told you :)
[01:29] <diegooooo> checking
[01:31] <etam> KaoticEvil: tell ubotu to tell me too please
[01:31] <KaoticEvil> ubotu: tell etam  about sudo
[01:31] <diegooooo> wtf
[01:31] <diegooooo> that's hard to rememmber :)
[01:31] <KaoticEvil> etam> try /msg ubotu <command> ;)
[01:31] <diegooooo> i'll go and check
[01:31] <KaoticEvil> diegooooo: no its not.. just sudo <whatever> when you need to run a command as root..
[01:32] <etam> KaoticEvil: thanks
[01:32] <KaoticEvil> n/p
[01:32] <diegooooo> i'll check
[01:32] <diegooooo> thank you!
[01:32] <KaoticEvil> diegooooo: a word of warning..
[01:32] <diegooooo> ?
[01:32] <KaoticEvil> dont use sudo for gui commands...
[01:32] <KaoticEvil> use sudo only on in a terminal
[01:32] <diegooooo> like sudo kppp?
[01:33] <diegooooo> or sudo kate?
[01:33] <KaoticEvil> no, dont do that.. use "kdesu kppp" instead
[01:33] <chaoticgeek> it hates me
[01:33] <diegooooo> because last time i tried i did sudo kate and kate died right after
[01:33] <chaoticgeek> it still hangs up there
[01:33] <KaoticEvil> chaoticgeek: try using just the vesa driver
[01:33] <KaoticEvil> diegooooo: use kdesu when you need to run a gui app with root privs
[01:33] <chaoticgeek> how do I do that?
[01:33] <diegooooo> ok thank you!
[01:34] <KaoticEvil> chaoticgeek: select the vesa driver in xserver-xorg config
[01:34] <KaoticEvil> or, if you want to get really brave, you can edit xorg.conf by nad
[01:34] <KaoticEvil> hand*
[01:35] <chaoticgeek> ya lets not
[01:35] <Hobbsee> hey KaoticEvil :)
[01:35] <KaoticEvil> heya Hobbsee :)
[01:36] <chaoticgeek> ok well lets try that
[01:36] <chaoticgeek> I'll be back later
[01:36] <KaoticEvil> chaoticgeek: that should at least allow you to... blah
[01:36] <KaoticEvil> i wihs hed stop doing that lol
[01:36] <KaoticEvil> wish*
[01:36] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:36] <Hobbsee> what, wait for instructions before leaving?
[01:37] <Hobbsee> dont know why you'd bother doing that lol!
[01:37] <KaoticEvil> yeah heh
[01:37] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: am i feeling brave today lol?
[01:37] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: old habit... i usually haunt windows:1 on yahoo...
[01:37] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: i dont know, are you?
[01:37] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[01:37] <Hobbsee> i'm contemplating
[01:37] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: brave enough for waht?
[01:38] <Hobbsee> reorganising my partitions on this computer, and installing dapper, to tripple boot
[01:38] <KaoticEvil> dapper? its out in pre-release?
[01:39] <Hobbsee> in pre-release...it's in testing
[01:39] <Hobbsee> you can dist upgrade, if you're prepared for things to break :P
[01:39] <Hobbsee> and on a spare partition...that could be interesting to try
[01:40] <KaoticEvil> lol.. i think ill keep things the way they are :)
[01:40] <KaoticEvil> one set of pre-release software is enough for me, i think
[01:40] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:40] <Hobbsee> what, RC1?
[01:40] <KaoticEvil> yup :)
[01:40] <KaoticEvil> works great.. no problems whatsoever
[01:40] <Hobbsee> havent found enough bugs here yet for it!
[01:40] <KaoticEvil> except during install
[01:41] <Hobbsee> what was the install one?
[01:41] <KaoticEvil> opne of the packages didnt install properly...
[01:41] <Hobbsee> ah...yes, i think i recall that
[01:41] <Hobbsee> what did you upgrade from, too?
[01:41] <KaoticEvil> i just installed it it with dpkg, and then i had some problems with the initial start... but i sorted them.. cant recall exactly HOW.. but i did.. with LeeJunFan's help
[01:42] <Hobbsee> ah yep
[01:42] <KaoticEvil> from 3.4.3
[01:42] <Hobbsee> i think i was there for that
[01:42] <KaoticEvil> yeah, you were
[01:42] <KaoticEvil> beta2?
[01:42] <KaoticEvil> 3.4.3 was a beta?
[01:43] <Hobbsee> no
[01:43] <Hobbsee> kde 3.5 beta2
[01:43] <KaoticEvil> oh, ok
[01:44] <Hobbsee> 2 gig hard drive space min...hmmm....
[01:44] <KaoticEvil> i cant wait till i get a decent computer.. then i can really put kubuntu thru the tests :)
[01:44] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:44] <Hobbsee> what's your computer now?
[01:44] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:44] <KaoticEvil> 400MHz Celeron, 128MB/20GB, 1MB Intel i810 onboard graphics
[01:44] <KaoticEvil> oh, and its only 100MHz FSB
[01:45] <interspec> hey all
[01:45] <KaoticEvil> hello, interspec 
[01:45] <interspec> any ideas how i can get my webcam running on unbuntu 5.04
[01:45] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: nasty
[01:45] <interspec> it see it in the hardware ? any ideas many thanks
[01:46] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: tell me about it... i used to have me a badass box tho.. Dual MP2200's, 1GB of PC2100 Reg/ECC DDR, 1TB of hard drive...
[01:46] <KaoticEvil> yeah, it was badass :)
[01:46] <Hobbsee> hehe nice...
[01:46] <Hobbsee> and so you killed it?
[01:46] <KaoticEvil> spent over $4,000US building it :)
[01:46] <chaoticgeek> ok it   workss
[01:46] <KaoticEvil> chaoticgeek: any luck with the vesa driver?
[01:46] <chaoticgeek> yes
[01:46] <KaoticEvil> there ya go :)
[01:47] <chaoticgeek> my keyboarrrd  iss veerry  toooooouchy
[01:47] <chaoticgeek> ahh
[01:47] <KaoticEvil> chaoticgeek: in a few days when i get my Radeon 7200, i may be able to help a lil more.. 
[01:48] <djk_> radeon 7200..isn't that a bit old?
[01:48] <brodel> Hey.. I have a 7200
[01:48] <KaoticEvil> djk_: yup.. but better than the one ive got now :)
[01:48] <chaoticgeek> I think I fixed the repeat
[01:48] <chaoticgeek> yep fixed 
[01:48] <chaoticgeek> I need a gfx card
[01:48] <chaoticgeek> the onboard gfx sucks
[01:48] <djk_> chaoticgeek: got the sticky things out of the keyboard? ;)
[01:49] <chaoticgeek> lol
[01:49] <chaoticgeek> no just the repeat rate
[01:49] <chaoticgeek> but I have to leave kubuntu so I can go back to windows
[01:49] <chaoticgeek> :(
[01:49] <djk_> oi
[01:49] <KaoticEvil> why? lol
[01:49] <chaoticgeek> I have to find out how to set up tv tuner later
[01:49] <chaoticgeek> but I need to record something on at 8
[01:50] <KaoticEvil> lol
[01:50] <djk_> KaoticEvil: not enough hentai-games run on linux :(
[01:50] <brodel> my battery seems to last longer in windows.. no idea why
[01:50] <djk_> chaoticgeek: what are you recording?
[01:50] <Hobbsee> brodel: you're not alone
[01:50] <chaoticgeek> Charmed
[01:50] <brodel> well at least thats comforting I suppose.
[01:50] <Hobbsee> although the windows one seems shorter too, now that i dual boot
[01:50] <djk_> heh.. chaoticgeek i hope you record it for the boobies ;)
[01:50] <chaoticgeek> no for the parents
[01:51] <djk_> fair enough
[01:51] <chaoticgeek> they dont get WB where we live, but at college I do
[01:51] <brodel> you are recording it in windows?
[01:51] <chaoticgeek> ya
[01:51] <brodel> hmm
[01:51] <chaoticgeek> I just got linux up and running
[01:51] <KaoticEvil> i dont even recall how long it takes my system to boot.. i know its a while tho :(
[01:51] <brodel> wish I could get good enough to ditch windows all together
[01:51] <brodel> although with my pocketpc I'll probably be stuck with it for a while.
[01:51] <KaoticEvil> brodel: im not that good, and ive removed windows from my drive :)
[01:51] <Hobbsee> brodel: you'll get good at it if you keep learning :P
[01:52] <Hobbsee> still windows here, for games
[01:52] <chaoticgeek> I want to remove windows as soon as I can transfer everything over
[01:52] <brodel> if I could get my modem working I'd learn a lot more because I could be on it during work. :D
[01:52] <KaoticEvil> brodel: Winmodem?
[01:52] <chaoticgeek> ok well time to shut down
[01:52] <brodel> I dunno. It same up in the device listing when I looked at it.
[01:52] <djk_> how do i delete a ppp connection created with pppoeconf?
[01:53] <KaoticEvil> the only modem ive ever gotten to work in linux was an external hardware modem
[01:54] <KaoticEvil> and that was so cool.. i was happy as hell when i did that :)
[01:54] <brodel> Well I have a USB modem too, but it didn't seem to want to work either.
[01:54] <Hobbsee> can i use the same swap file for breezy and dapper?  or do i need to create a second /swap?
[01:54] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: i dont see why you couldnt...
[01:55] <KaoticEvil> its all type 83...
[01:55] <Hobbsee> right
[01:55] <KaoticEvil> should work... swap is cleared when the computer shut down, isnt it?'
[01:55] <brodel> How do I tell if it's a winmodem?
[01:55] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: not sure
[01:55] <KaoticEvil> brodel: is it internal?
[01:56] <djk_> chaoticgeek: that was a quick charmed episode.
[01:56] <brodel> it doesn't say winmodem in kinfocenter
[01:56] <KaoticEvil> heh
[01:56] <chaoticgeek> ok well it all works, thanks a lot KaoticEvil
[01:56] <chaoticgeek> I'm in windows
[01:56] <brodel> yeah it's internal. I'm on my laptop.
[01:56] <djk_> chaoticgeek: ah :p
[01:56] <KaoticEvil> n/p chaoticgeek.. 
[01:56] <chaoticgeek> but I can soak up any knowladge ppl toss around in here
[01:56] <KaoticEvil> brodel: good luck with that... it probably *is* a winmodem
[01:56] <Hobbsee> chaoticgeek: so true
[01:57] <chaoticgeek> I seen this article where someone took a winmodem and a computer and made an answering machine
[01:57] <Hobbsee> i'm learning all sorts of things about ndiswrapper, but never had a wireless card
[01:57] <KaoticEvil> and there is plenty of that.. sometimes :P
[01:57] <brodel> KaoticEvil: any idea how I could tell?
[01:57] <KaoticEvil> knowledge flying about here, that is...
[01:57] <KaoticEvil> brodel: the odds are very good (99.9%) that your lappymodem is a winmodem...
[01:58] <chaoticgeek> I need to find out how to fix my resolution
[01:58] <chaoticgeek> my screen seems jummpy for somereason
[01:58] <KaoticEvil> chaoticgeek: in linux? or windows?
[01:58] <chaoticgeek> but thats for later
[01:58] <chaoticgeek> linux
[01:58] <brodel> yeah.. I just looked it up.. http://www.michaelminn.com/linux/notebooks/toshiba1905.html#section6
[01:58] <brodel> thanks though
[01:58] <KaoticEvil> chaoticgeek: check out the xorg.conf file :)
[01:59] <KaoticEvil> you can use kdesu kate to open it... iirc, its in /etc/xorg/xorg.conf
[01:59] <chaoticgeek> I think the resolution is too high, but under the configure thingy for kde it wont let me change it
[01:59] <chaoticgeek> but thats for later
[02:00] <KaoticEvil> oops, /etc/X11/xorg.conf excuse me
[02:00] <KaoticEvil> brodel: its a winmodem?
[02:00] <brodel> yep
[02:01] <KaoticEvil> figured so ;)
[02:01] <brodel> that article actually looks like it might be able to help me get it going though. I'm gonna try it.
[02:01] <KaoticEvil> good luck to ya :)
[02:01] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: i would recommend a backup ;)
[02:01] <KaoticEvil> hey Hobbsee.. you may be able to help me out... is parted non-destructive?
[02:01] <brodel> Maybe I should see about a PCMCIA modem to go in here.
[02:01] <KaoticEvil> brodel: i would
[02:01] <chaoticgeek> ok well show is recording
[02:01] <Hobbsee> yeah, and i cant be bothered going to turn on the other computer to place /home on there
[02:01] <KaoticEvil> would certainly be simpler :P
[02:02] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: parted non-destructive...what would you be thinking of?
[02:02] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: i need to resize my /home
[02:02] <cabajgtr> Does anyone no how to setup wireless in /etc/network/interfaces so that it doesn't wait for wireless to connect before booting?
[02:02] <brodel> yeah.. well I'm frugal.. and hell I might learn something by trying this. :)
[02:02] <KaoticEvil> brodel: most likely :)
[02:02] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: you'll have trouble - /home keeps saying it's busy
[02:02] <KaoticEvil> and lol @ "frugal"
[02:02] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: i noticed that :P
[02:02] <Hobbsee> seeing as that was what i was just tyring to do
[02:02] <KaoticEvil> LOL
[02:02] <crimsun> cabajgtr: comment out the hotplug section in it, and make sure the auto parameter isn't specified for your wireless iface
[02:03] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: if you find a way to get it done, please.. let me know
[02:04] <KaoticEvil> O.O i just got called cutey :O
[02:04] <chaoticgeek> thanks for all your help KaoticEvil
[02:04] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: sure, will do - i'll probably try by using the installer cd, and repartitioning off there
[02:04] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:04] <cabajgtr> should the definition still be there, just w/o the "auto eth1" line?
[02:04] <chaoticgeek> thanks for your help too kairu0
[02:04] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: i was trying to do it without rebooting :P
[02:04] <Hobbsee> well, you have to be able to somehow unmount /home
[02:04] <KaoticEvil> chaoticgeek: not a problem.. im just glad to be able to help some people in linux...
[02:05] <Hobbsee> and sudo umount /home doesnt work either
[02:05] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: affirm... i wonder if init 1 would work..
[02:05] <chaoticgeek> well I'm not exactly new
[02:05] <Hobbsee> got no idea
[02:05] <chaoticgeek> but I still dont know much
[02:05] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: do you have root console logins enabled?
[02:05] <chaoticgeek> I can compile stuff from source, its fun
[02:05] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: uh...no, but there's sudo -s if i get really desperate
[02:05] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: damn.. lol
[02:06] <Hobbsee> never needed to before - it's far easier to screw things up with root, paritcularly in konsole
[02:06] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: root console is so much more fun ;)
[02:06] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:06] <Hobbsee> so much easier to screw up, too
[02:06] <KaoticEvil> im talking an actual term.. before kdm loads ;)
[02:06] <Hobbsee> rm this in particular?  whoops lol!
[02:06] <Hobbsee> oh...no, dont think so
[02:06] <KaoticEvil> oh, i dont mess about with something unles i have at least a fairly good idea what im doing..
[02:07] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: like rm -R /usr ? :P
[02:07] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:07] <Hobbsee> that too
[02:07] <KaoticEvil> or chmod -R 000 / :P
[02:07] <KaoticEvil> or is it / 000 ?
[02:07] <Hobbsee> dont know
[02:07] <KaoticEvil> one or the other.. i have a yahoo ID named after it :P
[02:08] <Hobbsee> i've never tried using chmod, except for creating my own java package
[02:08] <Hobbsee> lol
[02:08] <KaoticEvil> ive used chown a few times... but never chmod
[02:08] <Hobbsee> never used either
[02:08] <KaoticEvil> i had to...
[02:08] <KaoticEvil> somehow /home/kao got chown to root o_o
[02:08] <Hobbsee> eek!
[02:08] <Hobbsee> lol
[02:08] <brodel> bah.. didn't take me long to get stuck on that
[02:08] <KaoticEvil> yeah.. that SUCKED!
[02:09] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:09] <KaoticEvil> well, it wasnt -R.. just the initial dir
[02:09] <KaoticEvil> but it was chmod 700 too.
[02:09] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:09] <KaoticEvil> i had *no* access to it....
[02:09] <Hobbsee> -R is recursive?
[02:09] <KaoticEvil> yup
[02:09] <Hobbsee> *nods*
[02:09] <KaoticEvil> if you really wanna mess up a system... chown -R root:root / :P
[02:10] <KaoticEvil> or 'chmod -R 000 /' thats even better ;)
[02:10] <Hobbsee> hehehehe
[02:10] <Hobbsee> what's that do?
[02:10] <Hobbsee> doesnt let root access root?
[02:11] <KaoticEvil> better
[02:11] <KaoticEvil> it changes permissions on EVERY file/directory to 000
[02:11] <Hobbsee> hehehehe fun
[02:11] <KaoticEvil> noone has *any* access at all
[02:11] <KaoticEvil> starting in / and going recursively
[02:11] <Hobbsee> now that would be fun
[02:11] <djk_> and how do you fix it?
[02:11] <KaoticEvil> yeah.. i wanna get a job at a place where they run linux servers...
[02:12] <KaoticEvil> djk_: no clue lol
[02:12] <Hobbsee> reinstall would be sounding pretty good lol
[02:12] <KaoticEvil> and then when i get fired and/or quit, run that command :)
[02:13] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: well, you could 'chmod -R 766 /' or would it be 755 ?
[02:13] <KaoticEvil> then go in and fix all the permissions on a directory wide basis
[02:13] <Hobbsee> dont remember what all those numbers mean
[02:13] <KaoticEvil> but youd have to boot froma boot disk
[02:13] <Hobbsee> true
[02:13] <KaoticEvil> i know 000 is no access to anyone, and 777 if full access to everyone
[02:14] <Hobbsee> ah right
[02:14] <Hobbsee> that's starting to make sense lol
[02:14] <KaoticEvil> the first number is Read, the second is Write, and the 3rd is Execute...
[02:14] <KaoticEvil> theres some way of arriving at the proper number, involving owner, user and group.. but i dont recall how.. i knew at one point in time
[02:15] <djk_> but there must be a way to fix 000 or not? otherwise 000 wouldn't be a smart option
[02:15] <chaoticgeek> I knew this
[02:15] <Hobbsee> ah...so that's how it works
[02:15] <KaoticEvil> djk_: see my few previous posts....
[02:15] <KaoticEvil> "[19:13]  <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: well, you could 'chmod -R 766 /' or would it be 755 ?"
[02:15] <brodel> bah
[02:16] <brodel> damn winmodems :(
[02:16] <KaoticEvil> "[19:13]  <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: well, you could 'chmod -R 766 /' or would it be 755 ?"
[02:16] <KaoticEvil> doh!
[02:16] <djk_> KaoticEvil: ah..didn't see that..bit too sleepy..
[02:16] <KaoticEvil> djk_: ah, lol
[02:17] <KaoticEvil> hey.. wow.. shes kinda cute :)
[02:17] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: going in to try and resize /home - will back up first though lol
[02:17] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: from boot cD?
[02:17] <thrice`> hrm...ok
[02:17] <thrice`> I am on ubuntu now, and want to install kubuntu
[02:18] <thrice`> but, would like to skip straight to kde 3.5 RC1 packs
[02:18] <thrice`> is this possible ?
[02:18] <KaoticEvil> thrice`: you can install rc1, yes
[02:18] <thrice`> KaoticEvil, can I go straight to RC1 by adding a line to sources.list ?
[02:18] <KaoticEvil> ubotu: tell thrice` about kde3.5
[02:18] <KaoticEvil> check that out thrice`  :)
[02:18] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: nah, breezy installer
[02:19] <thrice`> KaoticEvil, awesome
[02:19] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: thats what i meant :P
[02:19] <thrice`> KaoticEvil, it'll just grab the most recent packs it finds in sources.list right ?
[02:19] <Hobbsee> wow, XP takes a long while to boot...
[02:19] <KaoticEvil> thrice`: should work, yeah
[02:19] <Hobbsee> well, seeing as i plan to install another copy of breezy onto the spare space that i make, it kinda makes sense
[02:19] <djk_> what are the admin mode fixes in breezy and which packaged do i have to get?
[02:20] <djk_> packages*
[02:20] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: doh! @ me lol.. good point ;)
[02:20] <thrice`> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[02:20] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:20] <thrice`> =|
[02:20] <Hobbsee> you can ignore it
[02:20] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5
[02:20] <ubotu> methinks kde3.5 is KDE 3.5 Release Candidate 1 is out: http://tinyurl.com/dycgf
[02:20] <Hobbsee> but go grab the key from there
[02:20] <thrice`> ok
[02:20] <Hobbsee> read the instructions on hwo to add it
[02:20] <KaoticEvil> thrice`: add the key to your gpg keyring
[02:21] <brodel> this tutorial tells me to do "make" but in my terminal it says command not found
[02:21] <Hobbsee> !repos
[02:21] <ubotu> I heard repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[02:21] <Hobbsee> brodel: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:21] <Hobbsee> hmmm...should do the !'ing privately i suppose
[02:21] <KaoticEvil> beat me to it, Hobbsee ;)
[02:22] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:22] <brodel> ok.. did it.. but uhh what did I do?
[02:22] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: try: ubotu tell <user> about <command> or: /msg ubotu <command> ;)
[02:22] <Hobbsee> yeah, did that
[02:22] <KaoticEvil> lol :P
[02:22] <KaoticEvil> brodel: did what?
[02:22] <brodel> I did the command ya told me to
[02:23] <thrice`> KaoticEvil, oops, sorry...missed that!
[02:23] <brodel> just wondering what that thing is I'm now installing
[02:23] <thrice`> working now
[02:23] <thrice`> thanks guys
[02:23] <Hobbsee> brodel: it's the tools, like make
[02:23] <thrice`> then install kubuntu-desktop should grab it eh?
[02:23] <thrice`> easy enough
[02:23] <KaoticEvil> brodel: it installs make and afew other utils
[02:23] <KaoticEvil> thrice`: should.. yeah
[02:23] <thrice`> =] 
[02:23] <KaoticEvil> thrice`: you make have to run an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[02:23] <brodel> ahh ok thanks
[02:24] <brodel> but now make itself is giving me errors hehe
[02:24] <KaoticEvil> i dont think the kubuntu-desktop has rc1 in it yet
[02:24] <thrice`> KaoticEvil, upgrade, even if I don't have any KDE stuff installed right now ?
[02:24] <thrice`> er...run upgrade after right ?
[02:24] <KaoticEvil> thrice`: after :)
[02:24] <KaoticEvil> thrice`:  i dont think the kubuntu-desktop has rc1 in it yet
[02:25] <thrice`> KaoticEvil, ok; just a meta pack I suppose;  I was hoping it would pick out that I had RC1 in sources.list, but upgrade is easy enough
[02:25] <KaoticEvil> thrice`: yeah, kubuntu-desktop is a metapack
[02:26] <KaoticEvil> heh @ teh
[02:27] <Hobbsee> cant spell :P
[02:28] <Hobbsee> ah well, back after an install for breezy
[02:28] <Hobbsee> see you all soon!
[02:33] <rawtek> I am 34 minutes from a clean install of kubuntu, will I like it more than the gnome flavor?
[02:33] <brodel> I did.
[02:33] <brodel> I switched today from gnome to KDE
[02:34] <rawtek> I have noticed that it seems much more polished
[02:34] <brodel> yeah
[02:35] <rawtek> I updated apt files for dapper on ubuntu and now I can't get kubuntu-desktop thus a new install
[02:35] <Knowerrors> Hey all, just installed qtparted, and it does nothing when I click on the program icon to start it... whats up here?
[02:36] <kevman> My WLAN NIC is detected according to dmesg, and ifconfig wlan0 shows something. But ifup wlan0 gives me "Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0"
[02:36] <kevman> Does this mean the drivers aren't installing correctly?
[02:37] <rawtek> does the NIC show up in networking gui
[02:37] <Knowerrors> nevermind... Im on Kubuntu, and needed to change gksudo to kdesu in the command... that should be automatic
[02:38] <Riddell> Knowerrors: hoary or breezy?
[02:38] <rawtek> Knowerrors; I agree
[02:38] <kevman> rawtek, yes.
[02:38] <Knowerrors> breezy
[02:38] <rawtek> and the network shows it as enabled; kevman
[02:38] <djk_> what are the admin mode fixes in breezy and which packages do i have to get?
[02:38] <kevman> Yes.
[02:39] <Knowerrors> btw, this is the second or third time this has happened with apps I installed myself from ubu repos on Kubuntu
[02:39] <kevman> Wait, not sure.
[02:39] <rawtek> wow I am at a loss
[02:39] <chaoticgeek> ok charmed needs to end
[02:39] <brodel> 20 more minutes :)
[02:40] <chaoticgeek> I wanna go back to linux
[02:40] <chaoticgeek> yep
[02:40] <brodel> I don't even watch TV.. I'm just guessing it ends at 9
[02:40] <KaoticEvil> TV?
[02:40] <KaoticEvil> whats that?
[02:40] <kevman> rawtek, no, it says disabled.
[02:40] <brodel> It's what many people schedule their day around so they can be entertained
[02:41] <rawtek> kevman; ok should have an enable button
[02:41] <rawtek> in ubuntu it does
[02:41] <rawtek> not sure about k..switching today
[02:41] <kevman> Yes, but I need root access to do it...
[02:41] <rawtek> no such thing in kubuntu right?
[02:42] <rawtek> how about sudo ifup wlan0
[02:43] <rawtek> when it asks for root privileges I think it really means your user paswwd, right?
[02:43] <kevman> ifup wlan0 gives me "Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0"
[02:43] <kevman> Yeah
[02:43] <KaoticEvil> brodel: oh, THAT.. i think i had one of those once.. even watched it.. then i got a computer :P
[02:44] <rawtek> it seems to be a driver issue, how did you install the driver
[02:44] <rawtek> I only know ndiswrapper, cauz I am a newb
[02:44] <rawtek> driver is a windows term huh, I meanmodulr
[02:44] <rawtek> module
[02:45] <thrice`> damn, dep errors
[02:45] <thrice`> !repos
[02:45] <ubotu> hmm... repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[02:46] <Knowerrors> how do you get Qtparted to format a partition as NTFS? 
[02:48] <thrice`> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:48] <thrice`>   k3b: Depends: kdelibs-data (>= 4:3.1.4-2) but it is not going to be installed
[02:48] <thrice`>   kdelibs4c2: Depends: kdelibs-data (> 4:3.5-rc1) but it is not going to be installed
[02:48] <thrice`>               Depends: kdelibs-data (< 4:3.90) but it is not going to be installed
[02:49] <rawtek> kevman; was does if config give
[02:49] <rawtek> ifconfig
[02:49] <chaoticgeek> 12 minuets
[02:49] <chaoticgeek> minutes*
[02:50] <rawtek> and why is it wlan0..that us usually wireless; kevman
[02:50] <Riddell> Knowerrors: you can't, you need to get windows to do that
[02:50] <Knowerrors> I have windows... but the ntfs partition with windows got messed up by linux reading it, and now I can't even reinstall windows on it
[02:51] <thrice`> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:51] <thrice`>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: ksysguard but it is not going to be installed
[02:51] <thrice`> lol, this is confusing
[02:52] <rawtek> thrice; does this always happen in kubuntu?  maybe I should stay with ubuntu
[02:52] <thrice`> i'm trying to install kubuntu from ubuntu
[02:52] <thrice`> with no luck
[02:53] <rawtek> are you using dapper repos?
[02:53] <rawtek> that screwed it up for me
[02:53] <Knowerrors> rawtek: be prepared to "learn" alot to make kubuntu workable, there are far more bugs in it at this point than ubuntu, its just behind the curve
[02:54] <thrice`> damn, this sucks!
[02:54] <rawtek> that is unfortunate it looks really great!
[02:54] <Knowerrors> thrice: youre using wrong repos, looks like they want kde 3.5 stuff
[02:55] <thrice`> Knowerrors, yes, but I have commented out 3.5, ran dist-upgrade
[02:55] <Knowerrors> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop should grab KDE 3.4.3 stuff
[02:55] <thrice`> it removed them, now i'm trying to grab 3.4.3
[02:55] <rawtek> but do you still have 3.5 packages installed
[02:55] <thrice`> I don't believe so
[02:55] <thrice`> is there an easy way to be certain ?
[02:56] <rawtek> sounds like the dependency tree is jacked
[02:56] <rawtek> anyone an apt pro out there
[02:56] <rawtek> how do you clean up a bad tree?
[02:56] <Knowerrors> thrice`: are you installing kde or kubuntu-desktop?
[02:57] <thrice`> Knowerrors, I was trying kubuntu
[02:57] <thrice`> though all I really want is kde 3.5 RC!
[02:57] <thrice`> 1
[02:57] <kevman> rawtek, ifconfig doesn't mention wlan0. But ifconfig wlan0 does.
[02:57] <rawtek> kevman; I am confused are you using a wireless nic?
[02:58] <kevman> Yes.
[02:58] <rawtek> thrice we need to get your dependency tree cleaned uo
[02:58] <rawtek> up
[02:58] <thrice`> hrm
[02:58] <rawtek> kevman; how did you install the driver
[02:59] <kevman> PLugged the device in.
[02:59] <thrice`> Knowerrors, apt-get install kde doesn't work either
[02:59] <thrice`> kde: Depends: kde-core but it is not going to be installed
[02:59] <thrice`> why is that?
[02:59] <kevman> apt-get install kubuntu is how you install KDE.
[02:59] <rawtek> kevman; are you using a windows or linux driver
[02:59] <Hobbsee> hey all again!
[02:59] <kevman> Linux.
[03:00] <thrice`> no, not kubuntu
[03:00] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: works brilliantly changing by the installer cd
[03:00] <bnD> anyone here used or is using squid proxy? i cant seem to allow access to ANY url from local machine pls help
[03:00] <rawtek> lsmod shows that it is loaded 
[03:01] <rawtek> the driver that is
[03:01] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: cool... non-destructive using parted?
[03:01] <kevman> at76_usbdfu  
[03:01] <kevman> Yes.
[03:02] <rawtek> what does iwconfig give you
[03:03] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: not sure about the non destructive - only just got to a GUI - this is irssi here
[03:03] <KaoticEvil> oh, ok
[03:04] <Hobbsee> it detected the already existing breezy, and XP fine though
[03:04] <Hobbsee> modified the menu.lst for grub - to make it readable lol!
[03:07] <jesusfish> how come apt isn't picking up the new kde 3.5 packages?
[03:07] <jesusfish> I have the right line in sources.list
[03:08] <jesusfish> oh
[03:08] <jesusfish> nm
[03:08] <jesusfish> apprently they changed the new item on kubntu.org
[03:15] <chaoticgeek> hello all
[03:15] <chaoticgeek> back under kubuntu
[03:15] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:16] <Hobbsee> nalioth_zZz: thank goodness i know how to use irssi lol!  Otherwise i'd be very, very bored
[03:17] <Hobbsee> !java
[03:17] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:17] <Hobbsee> !javadeb
[03:17] <ubotu> I don't know, Hobbsee
[03:17] <Hobbsee> argh!  the debs are down!  that's right!
[03:18] <chaoticgeek> my screen is a lil bouncy
[03:18] <chaoticgeek> its annoying
[03:21] <_brian> !w32codecs
[03:21] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/
[03:22] <Hobbsee> shoot..
[03:23] <KaoticEvil> bang
[03:23] <Hobbsee> lol
[03:23] <Hobbsee> um
[03:23] <Hobbsee> how does one go about creating a new user, then editing them to the sudo list?
[03:24] <jsubl2> kcontrol has a users area i believe.  then man sudoers
[03:24] <Hobbsee> no kcontrol - terminal only
[03:25] <Hobbsee> grrr...cant believe i did this
[03:25] <jsubl2> adduser
[03:25] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: you still stuckin terminal?
[03:25] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: well, i copied all my data (ie. the entire /home) from my backup, adn now it wont let me login
[03:25] <Hobbsee> says...
[03:25] <KaoticEvil> uh oh
[03:26] <jsubl2> oh its visudo
[03:26] <Hobbsee> could not read ~/DCOPserver_Sarah__0
[03:26] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: can you remove it?
[03:26] <Hobbsee> i'll try
[03:27] <Hobbsee> no, same error
[03:27] <KaoticEvil> damn.. that sucks :(
[03:27] <Hobbsee> *sighs
[03:27] <KaoticEvil> lol
[03:28] <KaoticEvil> lol
[03:28] <chaoticgeek> hey KaoticEvil 
[03:29] <KaoticEvil> yeah?
[03:29] <chaoticgeek> hi
[03:29] <jsubl2> move your home dir to a safe place so you can get X back.  then move things over slowly like start with .kde dir
[03:29] <chaoticgeek> back on kubuntu
[03:29] <KaoticEvil> cool :)
[03:30] <Hobbsee> jsubl2: move which?  i've already got a full backup of it - can i just remove the entire thing, so it regenerates?
[03:30] <Hobbsee> will it regenerate?
[03:30] <chaoticgeek> I'll be back
[03:30] <Hobbsee> grr...root logins not allowed
[03:31] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: yes they are ;)
[03:31] <KaoticEvil> if you do it right
[03:31] <KaoticEvil> but not from kdm
[03:31] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: how?  in the GUI, i already have root enabled in console
[03:31] <Hobbsee> ah...yes...
[03:31] <jsubl2> mv hobbsee save; mkdir hobbsee; cp -rf save/.kde hobbsee etc........
[03:31] <Hobbsee> let me try...
[03:31] <KaoticEvil> there ya go ;)
[03:31] <jsubl2> oh and make sure you own the new dir
[03:32] <Hobbsee> darm
[03:32] <Hobbsee> *darn
[03:32] <Hobbsee> startx wont work
[03:32] <KaoticEvil> errors?
[03:33] <Hobbsee> server already active for display0
[03:33] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: pidof kdm ;) then kill it
[03:33] <jsubl2> ctrl alt f7
[03:33] <Hobbsee> bingo
[03:33] <Hobbsee> or just select console login, then try startx again
[03:33] <ealm> are there any debs of koffice 1.5 alpha yet? (I badly need some of the features in Kexi 1.5)
[03:33] <KaoticEvil> yeah, that works too :)
[03:34] <Hobbsee> now, can i delete the user sarah, and recreate her?
[03:35] <chaoticgeek> back
[03:35] <chaoticgeek> screen is better
[03:37] <Hobbsee> hey kkathman!
[03:37] <Hobbsee> right, created a new user
[03:38] <Hobbsee> ah...now how do i start kdm again?
[03:39] <chaoticgeek> I love linux
[03:39] <chaoticgeek> its been so long since I had a linux box up and running
[03:39] <jsubl2> vi .xinitrc -- startkde -- then xinit
[03:40] <jsubl2> put startkde inthe .xinitrc file
[03:40] <jsubl2> how come kdm is not running
[03:40] <Hobbsee> right
[03:40] <Hobbsee> ah, cos i logged out of it
[03:41] <Hobbsee> ie, got rid of kdm to go to a console login, went in as root (was very careful with my mouse!), then logged out after creating a couple of users
[03:41] <Hobbsee> logs in now, having removed all those files, except the 2 original ones
[03:41] <chaoticgeek> do you guys use firefox or the kde one
[03:41] <chaoticgeek> what ever its called
[03:42] <jsubl2> i use firefox
[03:43] <KaoticEvil> chaoticgeek: konqueror
[03:43] <Hobbsee> firefox here, or lynx
[03:43] <chaoticgeek> Can you get all the plugins that you could get for firefox?
[03:43] <KaoticEvil> chaoticgeek: ive not had a problem...
[03:43] <jsubl2> i only use the mplayer plugin
[03:44] <KaoticEvil> it uses Fx plugins
[03:44] <chaoticgeek> oh
[03:44] <KaoticEvil> chaoticgeek: Fx is Firefox ;)
[03:44] <chaoticgeek> then I guess I'll use that
[03:44] <chaoticgeek> ya
[03:44] <Hobbsee> tempramental thing...
[03:44] <chaoticgeek> I'll just go and get all that working
[03:45] <darksoul> how much ram sould you have to run games like counter strike source on wine?
[03:45] <chaoticgeek> 512 to 1 gig
[03:45] <chaoticgeek> oh w/ wine
[03:45] <darksoul> damn..no wonder it lags..lol
[03:45] <chaoticgeek> I have never used wine
[03:45] <chaoticgeek> as much as you can get
[03:45] <darksoul> my main box has 384mb ram
[03:45] <darksoul> my server box has 1034mb ram
[03:46] <darksoul> but the gui wouldent work on it so...meh
[03:46] <jsubl2> chaoticgeek, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxTipsAndTricks
[03:47] <darksoul> its weird.. the gui wouldent work no matter what i tried..and all i got working is server only mode..it couldent complie from what i figured out...maby i sould just try it with the new breezy install lol
[03:47] <chaoticgeek> I know firefox tips and tricks
[03:47] <darksoul> wow...to long sorry.
[03:47] <chaoticgeek> I've tweaked it in windows
[03:48] <darksoul> when will they make somthing free to run windows programs/games JUST right..i mean wine is great and all but its...slow..
[03:48] <chaoticgeek> but I do like Konqueror but its built in and I do like it
[03:48] <chaoticgeek> its pretty nice
[03:49] <chaoticgeek> have you tried vmware, its still beta, but it was nice under windows?
[03:49] <darksoul> hey, if i want to uninstall windows, were do i go lol.
[03:50] <chaoticgeek> you could format it
[03:50] <darksoul> my windows os...is very currupted and has rootkit..
[03:50] <darksoul> no i dont want to do that, i just need to edit the partions...i just dont know were
[03:50] <Hobbsee> darksoul: you on linux now?
[03:50] <chaoticgeek> Sony?
[03:50] <darksoul> yes
[03:50] <chaoticgeek> lol
[03:50] <LeeJunFan> darksoul: they are trying, that's wine. Whe something works with wine it's usually as fast or faster than running in windows native. You could try cedega which is a commercial version of wine, but vmware wont' work for games, it doesn't support 3d, plus it's a lot slower because it emulates a whole computer.
[03:50] <Hobbsee> gparted
[03:50] <chaoticgeek> I was joking about that
[03:51] <darksoul> LeeJunFan: well counterstrike source was slow, and i only got 382mb ram on this box, the linux gui wont work on my box with 1024mb ram
[03:51] <Hobbsee> thanks KaoticEvil :)
[03:51] <Hobbsee> havent even gone up to breezy yet!
[03:51] <KaoticEvil> always :)
[03:52] <chaoticgeek> sony is evil
[03:52] <darksoul> LeeJunFan: it also took me about 9 hours to download css...even thou i have 8mb download..
[03:52] <Hobbsee> probably should check at some point that the breezy original still works though
[03:52] <KaoticEvil> LOL
[03:52] <adrian_h> I'm running Kubuntu Breezy, and every so often (like when I type very quickly), the keyboard jumps to a different place in the document -- or sometimes it even toggles which app I'm on. This happens in any KDE app -- Kate, Konsole, Konversation, etc. Any ideas?
[03:52] <Hobbsee> it should do
[03:52] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: grub found it, and made a menu entry for it
[03:52] <LeeJunFan> adrian_h: laptop?
[03:52] <darksoul> adrian_h: are you sure its not your keyboard...i have had tons of problems with keyboards before...no matter what
[03:52] <adrian_h> LeeJunFan: Yes, laptop.
[03:53] <LeeJunFan> adrian_h: your touchpad is too sensitive :)
[03:53] <adrian_h> LeeJunFan: This never happened up until I upgraded to Breezy.
[03:53] <LeeJunFan> adrian_h: you probably need to adjust synaptics settings.
[03:53] <soundmaster80> is there a way to convert debian packages to ubuntu compatible
[03:54] <darksoul> adrian_h: how did you upgrade? did you install off the cd, or did you type sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:54] <adrian_h> LeeJunFan: How would I go about doing that?
[03:54] <adrian_h> darksoul: I did an "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[03:54] <LeeJunFan> adrian_h: new kernel probably == new driver tweaks for your touchpad or something.
[03:54] <chaoticgeek> brb
[03:55] <darksoul> adrian_h: thats a big no no, i had to reinstall twice and every time gui failed, i finnaly just downloaded kubuntu breezy iso installed on my cd, and did a fresh install, now its working very good.
[03:55] <Hobbsee> darksoul: dist upgrades can work, i'm about to do one
[03:55] <jsubl2> adrian_h, might try reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowto
[03:55] <LeeJunFan> adrian_h: I was going to say to install synaptics, but it looks like it has been replaced by tpconfig, so install that I guess.
[03:56] <darksoul> Hobbsee: yea they can..but theres tons of problems almost always, trust me, download the new iso
[03:56] <adrian_h> darksoul: That's interesting...I thought one of the main advantages of apt-get was to make transitions between releases simple
[03:56] <soundmaster80> anyone have an answer?...is there a way to make debian packages compatible with ubuntu?
[03:56] <Hobbsee> darksoul: i usually do - i did for breezy
[03:56] <darksoul> adrian_h: it is, but i dont know what happened with me, all i know is i couldent get on the gui anymore and was stuck on console..like in server only mode
[03:56] <Hobbsee> i've seen how it screws up before lol
[03:56] <Hobbsee> even worse than how this is currently screwing up
[03:56] <soundmaster80> i know they are both .deb but i am running into more and more compatibility issues
[03:57] <LeeJunFan> adrian_h: and it doesn't seem to have any config for sensitivity. that's lame.
[03:57] <darksoul> Hobbsee: i did to, and i had to reinstall twice before i learned to download the iso
[03:57] <bnD> can someone help me out with chown?
[03:57] <bnD> ie: how to check and how to set ownership?
[03:57] <bnD> :/
[03:58] <LeeJunFan> bnD: open a konsole and type 'man chown'
[03:58] <bnD> yea, thanks ;P
[03:58] <darksoul> im sure it will work on some systems, but it majorly messed up with mine, it also screwed up X server, and my desplay...i couldent even see console after that, just a big blue screen with mixed up words, and errors
[03:58] <LeeJunFan> bnD: and 'man ls'  --- basically ls -l will show you permissions.
[03:58] <chaoticgeek> back
[03:58] <darksoul> ..
[03:59] <darksoul> wtf
[03:59] <Hobbsee> darksoul: dont remind me of that lol...done it twice too
[03:59] <darksoul> why cant i delete partion one..
[03:59] <Hobbsee> darksoul: is it mounted?
[03:59] <darksoul> A busy device with at least one mounted partion..
[03:59] <darksoul> yea i guess..
[03:59] <darksoul> but im not on that partion
[03:59] <adrian_h> LeeJunFan: Are you sure tpconfig handles keyboard sensitivity, and not just touchpad sensitivity?
[03:59] <Hobbsee> umount /dev/hda1
[03:59] <darksoul> windows is
[03:59] <LeeJunFan> that shouldn't matter to fdisk.
[03:59] <chaoticgeek> hey KaoticEvil how does one get Konqueror to use the plugins?
[03:59] <Hobbsee> you cant delete windows with fdisk...assuming you mean windows fdisk...
[03:59] <darksoul> wtf..
[03:59] <Hobbsee> and not the fdisk command in linux
[03:59] <darksoul> why is it unallocated now..but it just gave me at error sign *sigh*
[04:00] <LeeJunFan> adrian_h: no it's for touchpad, my guess is what's happening is your touchpad is picking up your hand over it and moving your cursor in the middle of typing something to where the mouse pointer is, I've had it happen before.
[04:00] <adrian_h> LeeJunFan: Ahhhh, that would make sense.
[04:00] <darksoul> im just getting fdisk..
[04:00] <LeeJunFan> but I don't see where it sets sensitivity.
[04:00] <darksoul> screw Gparted
[04:00] <KaoticEvil> chakie: its in the Preferences...
[04:00] <KaoticEvil> chaoticgeek: even..
[04:00] <chaoticgeek> lol
[04:00] <LeeJunFan> gparted is for rescuing partitions, not erasing them.
[04:00] <chaoticgeek> I understood
[04:01] <KaoticEvil> scroll down to Pugins.. Settings -> Configure Konqueror
[04:01] <darksoul>   util-linux
[04:01] <darksoul> E: Package fdisk has no installation candidate
[04:01] <darksoul> darksoul@darksoulsserver:~$
[04:01] <darksoul> E: Package fdisk has no installation candidate
[04:01] <darksoul> darksoul@darksoulsserver:~$
[04:01] <darksoul> E: Package fdisk has no installation candidate
[04:01] <LeeJunFan> fdisk should be installed by default.
[04:02] <chaoticgeek> humm...
[04:02] <darksoul> oh..
[04:02] <darksoul> its here i think disk and filesystems --system settings right
[04:02] <chaoticgeek> I want to give konq a try
[04:02] <LeeJunFan> darksoul: as should cfdisk which is ncurses based.
[04:03] <chaoticgeek> So I can go install the plugins manualy now and just do the scan for new plugins right
[04:04] <LeeJunFan> adrian_h: there's a package called ksynaptics for configuring your touchpad :)
[04:04] <adrian_h> LeeJunFan: Very cool. I'll check it out. Thanks!
[04:05] <adrian_h> LeeJunFan: Can I be moderately sure that my touchpad was manufactured by Synaptics, or does ksynaptics work for any touchpad?
[04:05] <darksoul> alright, i got that partion cleared...now how do i add the space to my linux partion
[04:06] <darksoul> in gparted
[04:06] <LeeJunFan> it's very likely synaptics.
[04:06] <adrian_h> LeeJunFan: All right
[04:06] <LeeJunFan> I just installed it - even has a feature "disable touchpad while typing"
[04:06] <LeeJunFan> Why this wouldn't be part of kde main I don't know.
[04:06] <adrian_h> LeeJunFan: Oooh
[04:06] <darksoul> any ideas?
[04:07] <LeeJunFan> ktouchpad does alps too, so no matter what you have should be good.
[04:07] <adrian_h> LeeJunFan: Where does it install to?
[04:07] <adrian_h> LeeJunFan: i.e., how do I run it?
[04:07] <LeeJunFan> in your kde control center.
[04:08] <LeeJunFan> kcontrol under peripherals.
[04:08] <adrian_h> LeeJunFan: Ah, got it. Thanks.
[04:08] <darksoul> *sigh* how do i add more space to my lunux partion..out of a unallocated partion on gparted
[04:13] <richard> I've had problems getting Kubuntu to work properly with my Wifi card. The software didn't work and seemed flawed. (Currently running Mepis for KDE and Ubuntu for Gnome. ) Did any of the bugs with the control panel get fixed? 
[04:14] <richard> Seems some of the buttons in administrator mode locked up and wouldn;t set properly when they were selected. 
[04:15] <brodel> is there a logfile or anything I can look at to see why the ntp update is failing at boot?
[04:18] <fyrmedic> anyone able to tell me where to find libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 , I tried adept with no luck and have tried a couple of web searches also
[04:19] <fyrmedic> .
[04:19] <KaoticEvil> what switch can i add to ifconfig to just get eth0 information?
[04:19] <Lathiat> KaoticEvil: ifconfig eth0
[04:19] <snake> Hey can anyone help me out?
[04:19] <KaoticEvil> ty lath
[04:19] <Lathiat> fyrmedic: sounds like a bad soname
[04:20] <Lathiat> fyrmedic: can you compile the program that wants it from sourc
[04:20] <Lathiat> e
[04:20] <Lathiat> if so, that may help
[04:20] <snake> I'm trying to use kopete, and everytime I log in, all my buddys have 2 names on my buddy list, but only one sends what I type to them
[04:20] <snake> Anyone know a fix? It also keeps crashing
[04:20] <fyrmedic> Lathiat: I am way to new to try compiling something myself
[04:22] <KaoticEvil> err.. not ifconfig.. 
[04:22] <KaoticEvil> what can i add to netstat to show only eth0 connections?
[04:31] <kubuntu_guy> gud morning
[04:32] <Hobbsee> argh...dare i reboot?
[04:33] <KaoticEvil> dare dare :P
[04:34] <Hobbsee> guess i'll have to
[04:35] <Hobbsee> lol
[04:49] <chaoticgeek> omg why is nugget taken
[04:49] <chaoticgeek> that is so stupid
[04:54] <troy> chaotic_geek: freenode is a pretty old network, lots of traffic - all the good nicks are taken - people try to take mine all the time :)
[04:57] <kkathman> evening all
[04:58] <Hobbsee> evening kkathman 
[04:59] <kkathman> hi Hobbsee  :)
[04:59] <Hobbsee> kkathman: i'm beginning to think i like living on the bleeding edge - and am getting very used to the console!
[05:00] <kkathman> well thats sounds good
[05:00] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:00] <kkathman> you are much more adept (no pun intended) than I
[05:00] <Hobbsee> dapper on a spare partition, rc1
[05:00] <Hobbsee> hehe...and know how to use irssi for when it all screws up
[05:00] <Hobbsee> havent rebooted back there yet
[05:00] <kkathman> I have been convinced over the last week and I know nothing about any of this so I'm just sitting back and listening from now on :)
[05:01] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:01] <Hobbsee> you learn pretty quick
[05:01] <Hobbsee> i learn pretty quick!
[05:01] <kkathman> good for you :)
[05:02] <kkathman> always a good trait :)
[05:02] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:02] <Hobbsee> definetly
[05:02] <Hobbsee> startx works wonders
[05:02] <Hobbsee> although i still shudder at having to log in as root
[05:03] <Hobbsee> bah
[05:03] <Hobbsee> that's why i tripple boot
[05:03] <kkathman> I leave all the excitement to all you youngsters
[05:04] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:04] <Hobbsee> actually, it picked up the tripple boot just fine
[05:04] <Hobbsee> grub picked it up at install - xp, a copy of breezy, and th eone it was installing
[05:04] <kkathman> triple booting seems to be about 2 more than I can stand
[05:05] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:05] <kkathman> thats why I never shut down my system
[05:05] <Hobbsee> havent booted to xp in a while though
[05:05] <kkathman> separate systems work wonders
[05:05] <Hobbsee> bah...
[05:06] <Hobbsee> only one laptop here
[05:06] <kkathman> I think I might like to get a sound card for my Linux box tho
[05:06] <kkathman> I dont know if it would make any difference tho
[05:07] <glitch> quick q - I'm using firefox + thunderbird on 5.10
[05:07] <Hobbsee> yep?
[05:07] <glitch> and when I click a link in thunderbird
[05:07] <glitch> it doesn't open in firefox
[05:07] <Hobbsee> ah, it doesnt open in firefox
[05:07] <glitch> probably should have googled this
[05:07] <glitch> lol
[05:08] <Hobbsee> glitch: search on ubuntuforums.org - asiyu's written a great post on how to fix it
[05:08] <glitch> awesome, thanks
[05:08] <Hobbsee> it's 2 lines that you stick in user.js
[05:08] <kkathman> I think you can set that easily
[05:08] <Hobbsee> no problems - i use it too
[05:08] <kkathman> in Systems Settings
[05:08] <glitch> how weird. Are those packages in universe or multiverse?
[05:08] <jsubl2> glitch, man update-alternatives
[05:11] <kkathman> glitch:  If you do an alt-f2, then type kcontrol, then click on KDE Components, then Component Chooser. Then choose web browser and put firefox in that box
[05:11] <glitch> I actually did tht in component chooser
[05:11] <glitch> but it still doesn't seem to work
[05:11] <kkathman> yep thats what I did
[05:11] <glitch> trying the user.js fix now
[05:11] <kkathman> oh. well see I dont know anything anyway :)
[05:11] <kkathman> hehe
[05:12] <jsubl2> thunderbird does not use that
[05:12] <jsubl2> thunderbird probably uses what /etc/alternatives/www-browser is pointing to
[05:12] <jsubl2> ls -l /etc/alternatives/www-browser
[05:13] <kkathman> others are right, I need not to talk :)
[05:13] <kkathman> back to -offtopic :)
[05:14] <glitch> aww
[05:14] <Hobbsee> jsubl2: no, that is the fix for thunderbird...
[05:14] <glitch> it was a good try kkathman
[05:15] <jsubl2> Hobbsee, ? need more info to follow you
[05:16] <Hobbsee> where i pointed glitch to, assuming he found the right file
[05:16] <Hobbsee> *topic
[05:16] <jsubl2> oic
[05:16] <Hobbsee> because i've tried it, and it solved the issue
[05:16] <jsubl2> and it did not include running update-alternatives
[05:17] <Hobbsee> nope
[05:17] <Hobbsee> let me go find the one i was thinking of
[05:17] <glitch> this one
[05:17] <glitch> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51186&highlight=firefox+thunderbird+link+user.js
[05:17] <glitch> ?
[05:18] <sambagirl> fuzzy clock is very neat
[05:18] <jsubl2> Hobbsee, thanks  for correcting me.. page bookmarked
[05:18] <Hobbsee> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[05:18] <Hobbsee> yep
[05:18] <Hobbsee> no problems :)
[05:19] <Hobbsee> glitch: this one http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427 
[05:19] <Hobbsee> that is the one that i've tried, and works
[05:20] <glitch> gotcha
[05:20] <glitch> did it with the one above / user.js files
[05:20] <glitch> working like a charm
[05:21] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:27] <[linner] > hey y'all
[05:27] <Hobbsee> hey [linner]  
[05:27] <[linner] > has anyone installed Skype for debian
[05:27] <[linner] > hey Hobbsee 
[05:27] <[linner] > ;)
[05:27] <Hobbsee> !skype
[05:27] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:27] <glitch> there's skype for debian?
[05:28] <[linner] > glitch:  yes
[05:28] <glitch> hmmm
[05:28] <glitch> interesting :)
[05:28] <[linner] > just downloaded it
[05:28] <[linner] > http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb
[05:28] <sambagirl> i changed my desktop to 800x600 from 1024x768 but xchat still is small, i must close applications for change to reflect?
[05:28] <[linner] > glitch:  that's for you
[05:29] <glitch> linner: thanks - I'll check it out
[05:30] <[linner] > glitch:  no problem :)
[05:33] <darksoul> how do you mount new partions?
[05:33] <Hobbsee> !mount
[05:33] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[05:34] <darksoul> thanks
[05:34] <Hobbsee> no problems
[05:34] <[linner] > Hobbsee:  how are you doing?
[05:34] <darksoul> good
[05:34] <Hobbsee> [linner] : good, tripple booting yet, havent booted back into dapper yet
[05:35] <[linner] > oh wow... triple boot???
[05:35] <[linner] > never heard of that... I'm impressed
[05:35] <darksoul> err im not installing a new hdd..just a new partion
[05:35] <Hobbsee> [linner] : xp, breezy, dapper
[05:35] <darksoul> breezy
[05:35] <Hobbsee> [linner] : grub configures it fine, just install linux last
[05:35] <[linner] > forgive me... what is dapper?
[05:36] <Hobbsee> either one of them
[05:36] <Hobbsee> !dapper
[05:36] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release.
[05:36] <glitch> !dapper
[05:36] <glitch> heh
[05:36] <glitch> okay
[05:36] <darksoul> !dapper
[05:36] <glitch> what's the whole !word thing
[05:36] <[linner] > unbelievable
[05:36] <[linner] > it launches the definition or info from the bot 
[05:36] <Hobbsee> !bot
[05:36] <ubotu> I'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to hobbsee? I think not. Bot, shot, chicken... rhyming sucks.
[05:36] <glitch> ahh
[05:36] <Hobbsee> very useful
[05:38] <darksoul> how do i add a partion to media?..i made one i just have to add it
[05:38] <Hobbsee> darksoul: what type of partition?  ext3?  ntfs?
[05:38] <darksoul> its currently ext3
[05:39] <darksoul> but whats the best for a custom made partion
[05:39] <Hobbsee> where do you want to mount it?
[05:39] <darksoul> in media:/
[05:39] <Hobbsee> as in, media/foldername
[05:39] <darksoul> yea
[05:39] <darksoul> as in like a hdd really...but anything will do
[05:40] <Hobbsee> darksoul: sudo mkdir /media/foldername
[05:40] <Hobbsee> kdesu kwrite /etc/fstab
[05:40] <Hobbsee> oh yeah, and which partition is it?  which number?
[05:41] <darksoul> number 1
[05:41] <Hobbsee> darksoul: does sudo fdisk -l tell you that?
[05:41] <darksoul> New Partion #1
[05:41] <Hobbsee> hda1 or hdc1?
[05:41] <darksoul> let me check
[05:41] <Hobbsee> go for it, you'll need that info
[05:41] <darksoul> ...
[05:41] <darksoul> it doesnt show
[05:42] <Hobbsee> paste your "sudo fdisk -l"
[05:42] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[05:42] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:43] <darksoul> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4515] 
[05:43] <darksoul> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4515
[05:43] <Hobbsee> good, got that working
[05:44] <darksoul> no..
[05:44] <darksoul> its not listed there
[05:44] <Hobbsee> :) i now see all the partitoins of my drive
[05:44] <darksoul> the one i want to mount is 250mb, im going to encrypt it when i find out how
[05:44] <darksoul> how do i mount it in media:/
[05:44] <Hobbsee> hmmm...
[05:45] <darksoul> hmm
[05:45] <darksoul> ah there we go
[05:45] <Hobbsee> hang on, teh one you want to mount, that's a new hard disk, or a new partition on the current hard disk?
[05:45] <darksoul> new partion on current harddisk
[05:46] <darksoul> anyway its/dev/hda1
[05:46] <darksoul> so what do i do?
[05:46] <Hobbsee> darksoul: cd /dev/hda1
[05:46] <chaoticgeek> hello all
[05:46] <darksoul> not a directory
[05:47] <Hobbsee> oops, hang on
[05:47] <Hobbsee> mount
[05:47] <Hobbsee> paste to paste bin
[05:47] <Hobbsee> as in, type mount, and paste the error to the pastebin
[05:48] <darksoul> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4516
[05:49] <darksoul> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4516
[05:50] <Hobbsee> yeah, i saw, looking at it
[05:50] <darksoul> k
[05:50] <Hobbsee> have you actually created a partition with that free space?
[05:50] <darksoul> yea
[05:50] <darksoul> i had to delete windows so i had to put some of the space to use..
[05:50] <darksoul> thats going to be my encrypted partion
[05:50] <darksoul> my other one will be like 30gb
[05:51] <Hobbsee> yep, right - so after you deleted windows, what did you do with that (now free) space?
[05:51] <darksoul> its unallocated
[05:51] <Hobbsee> sorry to seem so simple here, but there's gotta be a simple reason for this
[05:51] <Hobbsee> ah
[05:51] <Hobbsee> well there's your problme
[05:51] <darksoul> no i have unallocated, and then the new partion i just made
[05:52] <Hobbsee> darksoul: do you have gparted on there?
[05:52] <darksoul> thats what im using
[05:52] <Hobbsee> right
[05:52] <Hobbsee> you've hit apply?
[05:52] <darksoul> yesd
[05:52] <darksoul> it also shows on it
[05:53] <Hobbsee> and teh command that you sent is after you hit apply?
[05:53] <darksoul> yes
[05:53] <Hobbsee> the sudo fdisk -l, that is
[05:53] <Hobbsee> hmmm....
[05:53] <Hobbsee> is gparted open now?
[05:53] <darksoul> yes
[05:53] <darksoul> one sec
[05:54] <Hobbsee> k
[05:54] <darksoul> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4517
[05:55] <darksoul> that help?
[05:55] <Hobbsee> ah, now there we go!
[05:55] <Hobbsee> yes
[05:56] <Hobbsee> ok, did you do the "mkdir /media/foldername"?
[05:56] <darksoul> nope
[05:56] <darksoul> lol
[05:56] <chaoticgeek> arg
[05:56] <Hobbsee> ok
[05:56] <Hobbsee> pick a foldername
[05:57] <chaoticgeek> konversation is not connecting to dalnet for me
[05:57] <darksoul> so it would be /media/hda1 right
[05:57] <Hobbsee> sudo mkdir /media/hda1
[05:57] <Hobbsee> yeah, if you want the folder to be called hda1
[05:57] <darksoul> done
[05:57] <Hobbsee> you can call it windows, fish, penguin, whatever you like it - it doesnt really matter
[05:57] <Hobbsee> ok
[05:57] <Hobbsee> kdesu kwrite /etc/fstab
[05:58] <Hobbsee>  /dev/hda1       /media/hda1   ext3    defaults        0       2
[05:58] <darksoul> command not found
[05:58] <Hobbsee> add that line to the end of it, hit enter once, and save it
[05:58] <darksoul> it said command not found
[05:58] <Hobbsee> which command not found?
[05:58] <darksoul> let me try somthing else
[05:58] <darksoul> omg i spelled it wron lol
[05:58] <Hobbsee> kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[05:58] <Hobbsee> lol
[05:58] <Hobbsee> either will work
[05:59] <thanatos> I have a faulty router, I need DHCP to get an IP address from an outside DNS, but when I change the DNS, when I reset my comp, it changes back to the default: my faulty router.  can anyone help?
[05:59] <darksoul> ok now..
[05:59] <chaoticgeek> ok what is kdesu?
[05:59] <chaoticgeek> well I understand it
[05:59] <chaoticgeek> but where is it?
[05:59] <Hobbsee> !tell chaoticgeek about root
[06:00] <darksoul> what do i type in when i got the folder up
[06:00] <Hobbsee>  /dev/hda1       /media/hda1   ext3    defaults        0       2
[06:00] <chaoticgeek> I know about root
[06:00] <Hobbsee> chaoticgeek: go read the end of that page, it has a bit about kdesu
[06:00] <chaoticgeek> do I type it in the terminal? if so why not sudo?
[06:00] <darksoul> k done
[06:00] <darksoul> now what
[06:01] <Hobbsee> darksoul: save it
[06:01] <darksoul> did
[06:01] <Hobbsee> ok, close kwrite
[06:01] <darksoul> k
[06:01] <Hobbsee> "sudo mount -a"
[06:01] <Hobbsee> chaoticgeek: read the root page in the wiki - kdesu is the sudo for GUI apps - it explains it pretty well
[06:01] <darksoul> command not found
[06:01] <darksoul> bash: sudo mount -a
[06:02] <thanatos> please help
[06:02] <Hobbsee> just typing sudo mount -a?  that command should definetly work in a shell
[06:02] <darksoul> yea it works
[06:02] <darksoul> [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[06:03] <Hobbsee> ah, "kdesu kwrite /etc/fstab
[06:03] <Hobbsee> "
[06:03] <Hobbsee> go to the very bottom of it, at the end of the last line
[06:03] <Hobbsee> hit enter/return, save, sudo mount -a
[06:03] <Hobbsee> thanatos: about what?
[06:03] <darksoul> Hobbsee: k that works
[06:03] <thanatos> I have a faulty router, I need DHCP to get an IP address from an outside DNS, but when I change the DNS, when I reset my comp, it changes back to the default: my faulty router.  can anyone help?
[06:03] <Hobbsee> darksoul: excellent :)
[06:03] <darksoul> now..
[06:04] <Hobbsee> darksoul: in a shell cd /media/hda1
[06:04] <Hobbsee> darksoul: ls
[06:04] <Hobbsee> show you any files?
[06:04] <darksoul> lost+found
[06:05] <Hobbsee> cool
[06:05] <Hobbsee> try creating a file on there if you want
[06:05] <darksoul> k
[06:05] <Hobbsee> guess you might have to chown it...not sure
[06:05] <darksoul> denied..
[06:05] <Hobbsee> yeah
[06:05] <Hobbsee> !chown
[06:05] <ubotu> it has been said that chown is a command used to change the owner of a file or folder, see `man chown` for details
[06:05] <Hobbsee> !man chown
[06:05] <ubotu> Not a clue, Hobbsee
[06:05] <Hobbsee> right
[06:05] <Hobbsee> lets see...
[06:06] <Hobbsee> this is where we need kkathman back in here, who is good with this stuff
[06:06] <darksoul> ..
[06:06] <darksoul> cant i just chmod it
[06:06] <Hobbsee> whichever the correct one is, yeah
[06:07] <darksoul> grrr
[06:07] <darksoul> didint work
[06:07] <Hobbsee> what?
[06:07] <darksoul> not premitted..
[06:07] <thanatos> Hobbsee: I have a faulty router, I need DHCP to get an IP address from an outside DNS, but when I change the DNS, when I reset my comp, it changes back to the default: my faulty router.  can anyone help?
[06:07] <Hobbsee> thanatos: no clue, sorry
[06:08] <Hobbsee> darksoul: getting more info from kkathman
[06:08] <darksoul> k
[06:09] <Hobbsee> !chown
[06:09] <ubotu> rumour has it, chown is a command used to change the owner of a file or folder, see `man chown` for details
[06:09] <Hobbsee> all right, someone shoot kkathman for being a pain lol
[06:10] <Hobbsee> right, anyone else here know about chmod?
[06:10] <chaoticgeek> ok, so I guess I dont have permissions huh
[06:10] <chaoticgeek> I click the admin mode button and input my password but I cant change anything
[06:11] <Hobbsee> chaoticgeek: /topic
[06:11] <darksoul> i think i know what to do..
[06:11] <darksoul> what was that command to wright in that file?
[06:12] <Hobbsee> chown or chmod?
[06:12] <Hobbsee> one of them
[06:12] <darksoul> wtf is pass for
[06:14] <darksoul> why wont admin mode work
[06:15] <darksoul> ...it wont let me login to system settings..
[06:15] <Hobbsee> darksoul: its' a bug
[06:15] <Hobbsee> darksoul: /topic
[06:15] <darksoul> omg..
[06:16] <darksoul> is it fixed yet
[06:16] <darksoul> couse i REALLY need it..i think thats were i can change ownership
[06:16] <Hobbsee> you can change ownership via command line
[06:16] <darksoul> nope
[06:16] <KaoticEvil> what aobut chmod?
[06:16] <darksoul> i dont know what it is
[06:16] <darksoul> chmod only made it so i cant make files
[06:16] <darksoul> well i never could..but it took away the button
[06:17] <Hobbsee> darksoul: sudo chown user.user <directory>
[06:17] <darksoul> what chmod do i need to use
[06:17] <darksoul> 777
[06:18] <darksoul> *sigh* what do i type in
[06:18] <darksoul> this media/hda1
[06:19] <Hobbsee> darksoul: sudo chown user.user /media/hda1
[06:19] <Hobbsee> with user being your username
[06:19] <darksoul> well..it didint work
[06:19] <darksoul> or it did..
[06:19] <darksoul> i just cant view it
[06:20] <Hobbsee> sudo mount -a
[06:20] <darksoul> what is that supposed to do..
[06:20] <darksoul> it did nothing
[06:21] <Hobbsee> check in konq, who now owns it
[06:21] <darksoul> darksoul
[06:21] <darksoul> +
[06:21] <darksoul> it does make the files
[06:21] <darksoul> i just cant VIEW them
[06:21] <darksoul> its only if i type em in that it even tells me its there
[06:22] <darksoul> what if i remount it
[06:22] <Hobbsee> could try
[06:23] <darksoul> so what would i do lol
[06:24] <darksoul> NOW its working
[06:25] <darksoul> Hobbsee: now how would i encrypt it?
[06:25] <Hobbsee> !encrypt
[06:25] <ubotu> No idea, Hobbsee
[06:25] <Hobbsee> same as ubotu lol
[06:25] <darksoul> LOL
[06:25] <darksoul> the bot doesnt know anything
[06:25] <darksoul> are we truly the only ones talking here?
[06:26] <Hobbsee> #kubuntu's quieter than #ubuntu, but it's quiet here today, yes
[06:26] <darksoul> why dont you like ubuntu?
[06:26] <darksoul> (gnome)
[06:26] <chaoticgeek> ahhhhh
[06:27] <chaoticgeek> I still cant get it so I have the right permissions
[06:27] <Hobbsee> dont like gnome, i'm part of both
[06:27] <Hobbsee> chaoticgeek: what do you want to change the permissions of, and what to?
[06:27] <darksoul> i like both..but gnome seriously needs a redo
[06:27] <darksoul> ...the premissions are fine..
[06:27] <darksoul> i want a password on it now
[06:27] <chaoticgeek> I tried clicking on the admin mode  button and typed in my password and I still cant change anything
[06:27] <darksoul> which i hope is possibe..since i read about it on fourms somwere
[06:28] <darksoul> chaoticgeek: get a better router
[06:28] <Hobbsee> chaoticgeek: if you use kdesu system settings, does that work?
[06:28] <darksoul> topics:/
[06:29] <darksoul> topics
[06:29] <darksoul> topics/
[06:29] <chaoticgeek> get a better router?
[06:31] <darksoul> you have to be able to encrypt partions
[06:31] <darksoul> since i encrypted my entire hdd on windows a year ago
[06:35] <kubuntu_guy> wat username should I use webmin?
[06:36] <Hobbsee> darksoul: i'm sure you can, tried searching on ubuntuforums.org?
[06:36] <Hobbsee> or ask in #ubuntu
[06:36] <Hobbsee> i dont know everything
[06:36] <darksoul> join #ubuntu
[06:37] <darksoul> *sigh*
[06:37] <True_Chaos|Lapto> hey, is there a way to check what version of kubuntu im running?  Im sure its simple, but I seem to have forgotten :(
[06:37] <chaoticgeek> ok
[06:38] <chaoticgeek> now I went and did the update manager and it came up w/ KDEsu and took my password
[06:38] <chaoticgeek> but I went into Preferences>Internet&Network>Network Settings
[06:39] <chaoticgeek> and I clicked the Administrator mode at the bottom and it came up with KDEsu and I put in my password and it would not let me change anything
[06:39] <True_Chaos|Lapto> anyone?
[06:40] <chaoticgeek> Except I can create new Network Profiles under the Network Profile tab
[06:41] <chaoticgeek> ok... now under the Users & Groups I can make changes after I click administrator mode
[06:41] <Hobbsee> chaoticgeek: now, i didnt say this, but i think the only solution is to log in as root, and go from there
[06:42] <chaoticgeek> I'm so confused
[06:42] <chaoticgeek> now I can change stuff 
[06:42] <KaoticEvil> LOL
[06:42] <Hobbsee> ok then
[06:42] <KaoticEvil> chaoticgeek: try: kdesu kcontrol
[06:42] <True_Chaos|Lapto> anyone?  can you guys see what im typing?
[06:43] <chaoticgeek> now I can do anything
[06:43] <KaoticEvil> True_Chaos|Lapto: whats up?
[06:43] <chaoticgeek> what changed?
[06:43] <chaoticgeek> it all works now so I'm happy thanks for the help Hobbsee 
[06:43] <Hobbsee> :) no problems
[06:43] <True_Chaos|Lapto> Im trying to figure out which version of kubuntu im running -- Im sure its a simple command, but I seem to have forgotten how :P
[06:43] <chaoticgeek> maybe I had to update?
[06:43] <KaoticEvil> True_Chaos|Lapto: its on the login screen...
[06:43] <chaoticgeek> I just downloaded the DVD iso friday though so it should not be old
[06:44] <True_Chaos|Lapto> KaoticEvil, I havent rebooted this machine in a month or so ;)
[06:44] <KaoticEvil> True_Chaos|Lapto: no need to reboot.. 
[06:44] <KaoticEvil> just logout
[06:44] <KaoticEvil> ;)
[06:44] <KaoticEvil> for that matter..
[06:45] <KaoticEvil> no, nevermind... lol
[06:45] <True_Chaos|Lapto> its not on the login screen.  All I see is time, username / pw, session type
[06:46] <KaoticEvil> True_Chaos|Lapto: it should be on there somewhere.. i know its on mine...
[06:47] <True_Chaos|Lapto> unfortunatly, tis not.
[06:47] <KaoticEvil> True_Chaos|Lapto: > try Ctrl+Alt+F4
[06:47] <KaoticEvil> that will take you to another terminal..
[06:47] <KaoticEvil> it should show on there
[06:47] <KaoticEvil> just do NOT login
[06:48] <True_Chaos|Lapto> why dont login?
[06:48] <True_Chaos|Lapto> and it did, ubuntu 5.04
[06:48] <KaoticEvil> press Ctrl+Alt+F(1-9) until your desktop comes back up
[06:48] <KaoticEvil> True_Chaos|Lapto: because it doesnt end X.. it just switched to another TTY
[06:48] <KaoticEvil> and you dont need to anyway ;)
[06:49] <True_Chaos|Lapto> newest release is 5.10 right?
[06:50] <chaoticgeek> so weird
[06:50] <KaoticEvil> dammit
[06:50] <KaoticEvil> that sucked
[06:50] <chaoticgeek> ...
[06:50] <chaoticgeek> that was weird too
[06:50] <True_Chaos|Lapto> lol?
[06:51] <KaoticEvil> ah, 6 hour connection
[06:52] <True_Chaos|Lapto> hmm, I feel the need to upgrade to 5.10... should be interesting.  Hopefully all goes well.
[06:52] <KaoticEvil> lol
[06:52] <chaoticgeek> ok this must seeme like a stupid question
[06:53] <rawtek> how do I get mp3s to play on amarok
[06:53] <chaoticgeek> but how do I get my clock in 12 hour format?
[06:53] <KaoticEvil> True_Chaos|Lapto: try apt-get update then apt-get upgrade :)
[06:53] <KaoticEvil> using sudo for both, of course
[06:53] <LeeJunFan> rawtek: install libxine and set amarok to use the xine engine.
[06:53] <True_Chaos|Lapto> well yeah
[06:53] <rawtek> thanks
[06:53] <True_Chaos|Lapto> I sudo everything
[06:53] <KaoticEvil> LeeJunFan: hello
[06:53] <KaoticEvil> :)
[06:53] <LeeJunFan> hey.
[06:54] <True_Chaos|Lapto> KaoticEvil, the FAQ says that I have to edit my sources.list, but it doesnt say what to change...
[06:54] <KaoticEvil> ubotu: tell True_Chaos|Lapto about repos
[06:54] <KaoticEvil> True_Chaos|Lapto: check out what ubotu just told ya :)
[06:55] <rawtek> apt-get doesn't show libxine
[06:55] <rawtek> Leejunfan:do I have to find libxine myself on the net
[06:55] <KaoticEvil> rawtek: try libxine1c2
[06:56] <rawtek> it is currently installed but does not show up under engines in amarok
[06:56] <KaoticEvil> rawtek: apt-cache search <foo>
[06:56] <LeeJunFan> rawtek: no, just run adept and search libxine it's something like libxine1c or something odd.
[06:56] <KaoticEvil> libxine1c2 actually ;)
[06:57] <rawtek> I have the libexine1c2 installed
[06:57] <LeeJunFan> KaoticEvil: that apt-cache search only works on your system because you've already downloaded it, won't do much good for him :)
[06:57] <KaoticEvil> LeeJunFan: ive not installed libxine1c2
[06:57] <rawtek> gstreamer is all that shows up in amarok
[06:57] <LeeJunFan> rawtek: then go into settings in amarok, go to engine and set it to libxine.
[06:58] <LeeJunFan> rawtek: amarok-xine or something like that is needed too.
[06:58] <KaoticEvil> i thought apt-cache search searched available package names
[06:58] <LeeJunFan> yeah, amarok-xine
[06:58] <LeeJunFan> KaoticEvil: only ones you've downloaded are are in /var/cache/apt
[06:58] <KaoticEvil> LeeJunFan: not possible.. ive cleared apt-get's cache
[06:59] <rawtek> not listed on adept..why is the package list so short 
[06:59] <KaoticEvil> and i dont have amarok installed...
[06:59] <KaoticEvil> ubotu: tell rawtek about repos
[06:59] <LeeJunFan> ubotu: tell rawtek about repositories
[06:59] <KaoticEvil> rawtek: add universe and multiverse as described in the link that ubotu just gave you :)
[06:59] <LeeJunFan> twice :)
[06:59] <KaoticEvil> heh indeed
[07:00] <LeeJunFan> repositories - not to be confused with the things that make you poop.
[07:00] <KaoticEvil> repos, rc1, w32codecs..
[07:00] <KaoticEvil> LOL LeeJunFan 
[07:00] <KaoticEvil> oh, and LeeJunFan.. apt-cache does search available packages...
[07:01] <KaoticEvil> i dont have amarok installed or downloaded, and it shows amarok-xine on a search for amarok :)
[07:01] <True_Chaos|Lapto> thanks KaoticEvil :)
[07:01] <KaoticEvil> n/p True_Chaos|Lapto 
[07:01] <LeeJunFan> KaoticEvil: cool.
[07:01] <KaoticEvil> very
[07:01] <rawtek> ok folks all repos are enabled (uncommented) 
[07:02] <KaoticEvil> i use it religiously
[07:02] <KaoticEvil> rawtek: now do: sudo apt-get update
[07:04] <sambagirl> i changed my desktop to 800x600 from 1024x768 but xchat still is small, i must close applications for change to reflect?
[07:04] <True_Chaos|Lapto> heh upgrading to 5.10 is gonna take awile :P
[07:06] <True_Chaos|Lapto> hour and a half for downloading.
[07:06] <sambagirl> i changed my desktop to 800x600 from 1024x768 but xchat still is small, i must close applications for change to reflect?
[07:07] <LeeJunFan> argh, farking kopete has like 3-5 copies of each user :(
[07:07] <True_Chaos|Lapto> lol
[07:07] <True_Chaos|Lapto> kopete is the password thing right?
[07:08] <LeeJunFan> instant messenger
[07:08] <True_Chaos|Lapto> right
[07:08] <LeeJunFan> emphasis on MESS at the moment :)
[07:08] <True_Chaos|Lapto> lol
[07:08] <True_Chaos|Lapto> gaim ftw
[07:12] <rawtek> ok still no luck
[07:12] <rawtek> goes to the beginning of the song and then says end of playlist
[07:16] <LeeJunFan> rawtek: try to get it to play something from /usr/share/sounds just to make sure it plays anything.
[07:16] <LeeJunFan> rawtek: and that's it's just not an mp3 problem.
[07:17] <LeeJunFan> KaoticEvil: you ever get ftp working?
[07:20] <chaoticgeek> is there a way in kopete to turn off timestamps?
[07:20] <LeeJunFan> not that I know of.
[07:21] <chaoticgeek> omg
[07:21] <chaoticgeek> I hate timestamps
[07:22] <LeeJunFan> you don't want to know what time it was when someone said "Are you there?" while you are sleeping :)
[07:23] <chaoticgeek> time to get gaim
[07:24] <glitch> hmm
[07:24] <glitch> I love audacity
[07:24] <glitch> but it's really time for an update
[07:25] <glitch> almost a year since the last stable release
[07:25] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: SIM is my favorite instant messenger, I've just got mine messed up right now because I play with the devel CVS versions of it.
[07:25] <chaoticgeek> SIM?
[07:25] <chaoticgeek> never heard of it
[07:25] <LeeJunFan> simple instant messenger
[07:25] <chaoticgeek> maybe I'll give it a shot sometime
[07:26] <chaoticgeek> but I'm off I got class tomorrow
[07:27] <LeeJunFan> http://sim-icq.sourceforge.net/
[07:28] <LeeJunFan> crappy screenshot though.
[07:29] <True_Chaos|Lapto> LeeJunFan, does it support webcams?
[07:32] <LeeJunFan> True_Chaos|Lapto: no.
[07:32] <True_Chaos|Lapto> darn
[07:32] <True_Chaos|Lapto> none ive found o
[07:32] <True_Chaos|Lapto> do*
[07:34] <darksoul> !encryption
[07:34] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, darksoul
[07:35] <darksoul> *sigh* anyone know what program can encrypt a entire partion?
[07:49] <gigcs> i have question
[07:51] <kkathman> gigcs: please ask
[07:53] <gigcs> i doubt sign key package.
[07:55] <gigcs> i add package on ubuntu cd .
[07:56] <gigcs> use command which
[07:58] <afterAwaY> boing
[08:07] <gigcs> ubuntu update distribution
[08:30] <gigcs> what time is it?
[08:31] <gerbma1> 2:30 a.m. in michigan, USA :-)
[08:32] <aftertaf> lol
[08:32] <aftertaf> 8:30 am in france 
[08:32] <aftertaf> and coooold
[08:33] <gerbma1> yea we're headed that direction...i hate the cold
[08:33] <drgayus> in kubuntu after i install the packages can i delete them?
[08:34] <drgayus> like firefox
[08:34] <gerbma1> drgayus, yes "sudo apt-get remove <package>"
[08:34] <gerbma1> aftertaf, are you getting to experience any of that wonderful rioting?
[08:35] <fatejudger> does anyone have a link to those java packages?
[08:36] <gerbma1> you mean for the VM and netbeans? they should be on java.sun.com
[08:36] <fatejudger> no
[08:36] <gerbma1> oh
[08:37] <fatejudger> there are debian packages that everyone always gives the link to
[08:37] <fatejudger> I forget the link though
[08:37] <gerbma1> hmmm, not sure...i've always just grabbed the installed from sun
[08:37] <fatejudger> that isn't nearly as good as getting the package
[08:38] <fatejudger> since it doesn't show up in apt
[08:38] <fatejudger> make install and 3rd party installers are bad
[08:38] <gerbma1> yea it probably isnt' the best thing...but i was in a hurry and it worked :-)
[08:40] <gigcs> Can someone suggest Sign your packages HowTo.
[08:42] <darksoul> hey, my games folder disapeared on the kde menu, but when i go to edit its still there...some help?
[08:43] <manveru> darksoul: delete it in edit-mode and run kappfinder
[08:43] <darksoul> were is kappfinder at
[08:44] <darksoul> nvm
[08:44] <manveru> you have to start it with typing [alt] +f2... ok :)
[08:44] <gigcs> Can someone suggest Sign your packages HowTo
[08:45] <darksoul> its not showing up
[08:45] <manveru> ok, that's bad...
[08:46] <manveru> did you delete/save it in the editor?
[08:46] <manveru> gigcs: what do you mean?
[08:46] <darksoul> i deleted it and saved it in KDE menu editer
[08:46] <darksoul> yes
[08:47] <manveru> ok... next step would be to remove the complete menu and rebuild it
[08:48] <darksoul> yea...right
[08:48] <manveru> not sure if someone of the pros in here has another idea
[08:48] <darksoul> were are all the games stored?
[08:48] <manveru> hey KaoticEvil do you know an easy way to rebuild the k-menu?
[08:48] <manveru> and good morning :)
[08:48] <darksoul> were are the games stored?
[08:49] <manveru> darksoul: the games itself or the entries in the menu?
[08:49] <darksoul> uh entries
[08:49] <darksoul> then games itself
[08:49] <KaoticEvil> manveru: to the defaults, you mean?
[08:50] <manveru> exactly
[08:50] <KaoticEvil> manveru: sorry, no :(
[08:50] <darksoul> wtf
[08:50] <manveru> thought so ... :)
[08:50] <darksoul> nothing new is appearing on the menu
[08:50] <KaoticEvil> you may try kappfinder... altho it only scans for non-kde apps
[08:51] <manveru> lemme look where this config for k-menu lies
[08:51] <manveru> should be in kicker right?
[08:51] <darksoul> whats the command to rebuild the menu
[08:52] <darksoul> there has to be a sudo apt-get command lol
[08:52] <manveru> no...
[08:53] <manveru> except you want to remove all your kde-settings
[08:53] <darksoul> ..
[08:53] <manveru> then removing the .kde folder in your home-directory and restarting kde should help
[08:53] <manveru> but i guess you don't want to do that
[08:55] <oann>  i downloaded MacromediaStudio For Linux from macromedias site, but its not .deb file.. how can i install it?
[08:55] <kkathman> edit the menu by right clicking the K-menu and choose Menu Editor
[08:55] <kkathman> oann: what kind of file is it?
[08:56] <manveru> kkathman: sorry, but darksoul is gone already
[08:56] <kkathman> oh
[08:56] <oann> kkathman : its macromedia suit files, flash.bin etc.. oh ok i started applications
[08:56] <kkathman> oh well
[08:57] <kkathman> manveru: was darksoul's problem more complex that just editing the K menu and putting an item there?
[08:57] <manveru> kkathman: it was
[08:57] <kkathman> ok
[08:57] <manveru> kkathman: problem was, that the games where there already in the editor, but didn't show in the real menu
[08:58] <kkathman> I shouldnt try to answer while you are here, cuz you are MUCH more advanced than most everyone else 
[08:58] <manveru> don't say that, i started with kubuntu two weeks ago...
[08:58] <kkathman> its bed time for me anyway
[08:58] <kkathman> good night
[08:58] <manveru> sleep well
[08:58] <oann> i am a spy from ubuntu channel
[08:59] <manveru> does that help us in any way?
[09:00] <manveru> didn't know that there is a macromedia-suite for linux
[09:05] <DjDarkman> hy ,how can i access a theme maneger program for kde themes?
[09:11] <kubuntu_guy> guys having problem with vmware
[09:12] <DjDarkman> how can i access a theme maneger program for kde themes?
[09:12] <manveru> DjDarkman: you can do it from kcontrol
[09:12] <manveru> DjDarkman: in the submenu appearance
[09:12] <kubuntu_guy> try kcontrol from cmd line
[09:13] <DjDarkman> k
[09:13] <DjDarkman> i try
[09:13] <DjDarkman> 10x a lot
[09:14] <DjDarkman> bye
[09:26] <wal> hello
[09:26] <chaoticgeek> hello
[09:26] <chaoticgeek> does mplayer have a apt-get installer?
[09:26] <Tm_T> yes
[09:26] <wal> mplayer-386
[09:27] <Tm_T> ubotu: tell chaoticgeek about sources
[09:27] <chaoticgeek> I can compile from source
[09:27] <chaoticgeek> its easier to apt-get if its theier
[09:27] <Tm_T> haooy with what you have to be happy with
[09:27] <chaoticgeek> nevermind
[09:27] <Tm_T> :)
[09:27] <Tm_T> you can compile or install using apt
[09:28] <wal> i was wondering how to uninstall the kde desktop - seeing kubuntu-desktop is only a metapackage
[09:28] <chaoticgeek> ya I tried sudo apt-get install mplayer-386 and it didnt work
[09:28] <chaoticgeek> said ti could not be found
[09:29] <wal> its there for me ;)
[09:29] <wal> aptitiude may help
[09:30] <wal> thats strange
[09:30] <Tm_T> wal: apt-get install kde ;)
[09:30] <Tm_T> and you get MUCH kde stuff
[09:31] <wal> hehe im not starting a flame
[09:31] <wal> just dont have hd space
[09:32] <Tm_T> yu
[09:32] <Tm_T> then apt-get remove kde*
[09:32] <Tm_T> propably remove more thant you want
[09:33] <chaoticgeek> well its not in my source list I did apt-cache pkgnames > pkgnames.txt and it was not in the list
[09:33] <Tm_T> chaoticgeek: I thought I gave some hints to you
[09:34] <wal> it is in universe i think
[09:34] <Tm_T> yes
[09:34] <wal> Tm_T, thanks for your help btw
[09:34] <chaoticgeek> ya now I got to find the apt-get source list 
[09:35] <Tm_T> !sources
[09:35] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:35] <chaoticgeek> ya I seen that
[09:35] <chaoticgeek> and I'm there
[09:35] <chaoticgeek> and now I'm searching around
[09:38] <gigcs> i try signature package for debian
i try signatrue package ubuntu.
[09:39] <gigcs> what is command sign package .
[09:39] <manveru> gigcs: i have got no idea how you would 'sign' a package... what package, what signature, what for?
[09:40] <ice_1963> lol
[09:41] <gigcs> Who signatrue package .
[09:41] <ice_1963> hello :0)
i want add package on ubuntu cd .
[09:41] <gigcs> you have advise or link.
[09:42] <manveru> no, i'm sorry, i never did that before
[09:42] <manveru> have a look at #ubuntu for that
[09:54] <chaoticgeek> its still not in my list of apps for apt-get 
[09:54] <chaoticgeek> I un commented the lines
[10:25] <gigcs> sign package debian
[10:25] <gigcs> HowTo
[10:25] <crimsun> come again?
[10:26] <gigcs> How to sign package debian
[10:27] <raphink> gigcs: what exactly do you want to do ?
[10:27] <kubuntu_guy> guys how will I share my printer 
[10:27] <raphink> package something for ubuntu?
[10:27] <stagiair> Hi, I'm new to Kubuntu. Just installed Kubuntu 5.04 on my PC. Now I want do `apt-cache search wxpython` but it doesn't return anything (besides the prompt :)
[10:27] <raphink> kubuntu_guy: google is your friend 
[10:27] <stagiair> (correction, it returns python-opengl and python2.4-opengl)
[10:27] <raphink> kubuntu_guy: search a bit on google and you'll find an answer to your question 
[10:28] <kubuntu_guy> my printer is installed on my kubuntu and want to share to my windows and ubuntu client
[10:28] <raphink> stagiair: did you install universe/multiverse ?
[10:28] <kubuntu_guy> k thanks
[10:28] <raphink> kubuntu_guy: `share printer ubuntu' will do it 
[10:29] <stagiair> raphink: not sure, i just put in the CD really. But from /etc/apt/sources.list I see references to restricted and some to universe.
[10:29] <crimsun> gigcs: use debsign -k<id>, or pass -k<id> to the appropriate dpkg-buildpackage
[10:29] <raphink> stagiair: they are commented though I guess
[10:29] <raphink> stagiair: lines that begin with a # are commented lines
[10:29] <stagiair> raphink: you are right, two references to universe sources are commented, I'll try uncommenting them and see what happends.
[10:29] <raphink> they are not taken in consideration by apt
[10:30] <raphink> stagiair: when you change your sources.list
[10:30] <raphink> you have to run apt-get update
[10:30] <raphink> so the changes are taken in consideration ;)
[10:31] <stagiair> Yes! apt-cache search now returns wxpython & co
[10:31] <stagiair> Thank you raphink 
[10:31] <raphink> you're welcome
[10:31] <kubuntu_guy> rap thanks 
[10:32] <raphink> kubuntu_guy: got your answer ?
[10:32] <gigcs> thank you
[10:33] <HaNazir> how do i reset my passwords if i forgot them?
[10:34] <kubuntu_guy> not yet
[10:34] <bimberi> HaNazir: boot into recovery mode and "passwd <username>"
[10:35] <choletzke> hallo!
[10:35] <kubuntu_guy> how try to search with ubuntuguide.com 
[10:35] <kubuntu_guy> raph not yet
[10:36] <stagiair> s/com/org/ I think :)
[10:37] <nalioth> !ubuntuguide
[10:37] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntuguide was out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[10:37] <choletzke> i need a mysql admin tool for kubuntu like navicat?
[10:37] <nalioth> kubuntu_guy: u'guide will break your box, be very wary.  help.ubuntu.com is a safer alternative
[10:38] <kubuntu_guy> nalioth ganun k thanks for that info
[10:39] <kubuntu_guy> any other helpful links that can gave us info for both kubuntu and ubuntu?
[10:39] <nalioth> !faq
[10:39] <ubotu> faq is, like, totally, The Ubuntu FAQ Guide is: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation or http://help.ubuntu.com
[10:44] <HaNazir> bimberi: but i dotn remmber my root password either
[10:44] <nalioth> yahalom: there is no root password
[10:44] <nalioth> !root
[10:44] <ubotu> methinks root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:44] <yahalom> nalioth: i created one
[10:45] <bimberi> yahalom: recovery mode boots into a root shell 
[10:45] <yahalom> ok
[10:45] <choletzke> i need a mysql admin tool for kde or gnome like tomcat? where i can find these tools?
[10:46] <nalioth> yahalom: does your sudo work?
[10:46] <raphink> choletzke: on kde-apps
[10:47] <choletzke> yes but kmysqladmin and knode is not 100% ok!
[10:48] <choletzke> i miss the SQL (export and import) function in all linux mysql admin tools!
[10:48] <choletzke> i search for best opensource linux database tool
[10:49] <raphink> choletzke: how about phpmyadmin?
[10:49] <yahalom> bimberi: it doesnt work man
[10:50] <yahalom> bimberi: it says" enter root for maintance or press ctrl +d to continue
[10:50] <bimberi> yahalom: i guess that's because you set a root password :(
[10:51] <yahalom> yes i did
[10:51] <yahalom> thats my whole issue
[10:51] <yahalom> how do i reset it?
[10:52] <bimberi> yahalom: that's the only method that i'm aware of, but there should be others
[10:53] <nalioth> yahalom: in the future, you can start those things from a superuser shell (sudo -i)
 i search x tool not webbased tool
[10:53] <choletzke> i compile now knode 0.8! i will test the new export and import function
[10:54] <choletzke> smokingbrake :-)
[10:54] <l3m> kopete constantly disconnects me from icq.. "An unknown error has occurred and the connection has been closed". aol and jabber work fine. any ideas what could be causing this?
[10:56] <chaoticgeek> that is weird
[10:56] <chaoticgeek> but I cant help
[10:57] <chaoticgeek> I cant get Mplayer to work
[10:58] <nikkia> l3m, that's icq being lousy :)
[10:58] <chaoticgeek> it says it was built fine and it should work
[10:59] <nalioth> nikkia: you been hiding again?
[10:59] <nikkia> nalioth: was on a business trip thurs and fri, then playing WoW most of the weekend
[11:00] <nalioth> nikkia: using the new anti-anti-cheat supplied by Sony ?  :
[11:01] <chaoticgeek> ok I deleted something
[11:02] <chaoticgeek> On the taskbar next to Konqeror there is an application for checking your mail, RSSfeeds and such what app was that?
[11:04] <chaoticgeek> anyone?
[11:04] <raphink> kontact
[11:04] <chaoticgeek> thanks
[11:04] <raphink> using kmail for email, akregator for rss, kaddressbook for contact, korganizer for the organizer, etc.
[11:05] <chaoticgeek> ya
[11:05] <raphink> kontact gathers several apps in one
[11:05] <chaoticgeek> ya now I need to put that back there
[11:07] <chaoticgeek> ok I got it back
[11:07] <nikkia> raphink: i just wish you could configure the korganizer alarm daemon to open kontact on click rather than korganizer :)
[11:12] <chaoticgeek> ok now that I have that back its all good
[11:53] <Myk3> hey is there a reason when i add the univers and multi in 5.10 and do a update it fails?
[11:53] <Tm_T> how it fails?
[11:53] <Myk3> says cant resolve
[11:54] <Myk3> wont connect to the server
[11:54] <golan77> hello everybody!
[11:54] <Tm_T> ah, give me the error message
[11:54] <Myk3> on 4 of the repositories
[11:54] <Myk3> hey
[11:54] <nalioth> Myk3: spelling counts
[11:54] <Myk3> umm
[11:54] <Myk3> ok
[11:54] <Tm_T> kubuntu.pastebin.com
[11:54] <chaoticgeek> sounds like someone likes error messages
[11:54] <golan77> I need some help with my network configuration under kubuntu... anybody listening?
[11:54] <chaoticgeek> wow, I got class in 5 hours but I cant sleep
[11:54] <chaoticgeek> this sucks
[11:54] <chaoticgeek> hello
[11:54] <Tm_T> chaoticgeek: easier to figure out what's wrong than just "something is wrong"
[11:55] <chaoticgeek> dont know if I can help you but sure give it a shot
[11:55] <chaoticgeek> I know I just like to be a pain
[11:55] <chaoticgeek> :)
[11:55] <golan77> This is: I need to manually write "route add default gw xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx", how can I automate it?
[11:55] <golan77> when I reboot, my route is without default again...
[11:56] <chaoticgeek> Tm_T? you have any ideas?
[11:56] <Tm_T> I have ideas, sure
[11:56] <Myk3> nm its workign now
[11:56] <Myk3> i think
[11:56] <Tm_T> Myk3: good, typos?
[11:56] <Myk3> no
[11:56] <chaoticgeek> ideas relevant to golan77's problem?
[11:57] <Myk3> its on another box and the route was screwed
[11:57] <Myk3> "wrong gateway"
[11:57] <chaoticgeek> maybe I should get out a book and read since I cant sleep
[11:57] <chaoticgeek> but that would require work...
[11:57] <chaoticgeek> ok
[11:58] <golan77> Myk3... what do u think about it?
[11:58] <chaoticgeek> the linux cookbook
[11:58] <Myk3> im gonna log in as "jose" on the machine and if it fails ill paste the error
[11:58] <Myk3> t5hink about what?
[11:59] <Myk3> o the network
[11:59] <Myk3> ubuntu or kubutu?
[12:00] <golan77> kubuntu
[12:00] <Myk3> umm
[12:00] <golan77> when I reboot the machine, I always haven't the "default" route
[12:00] <golan77> and I need to add it manually
[12:00] <golan77> I'm in a LAN
[12:00] <Myk3> like the gateway?
[12:00] <Myk3> static or dhcp?
[12:00] <golan77> static
[12:00] <golan77> I miss the gw
[12:01] <jose> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[12:01] <jose> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[12:01] <jose> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[12:01] <jose> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[12:01] <jose> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/main/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[12:01] <jose> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/restricted/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[12:01] <jose> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/universe/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[12:01] <jose> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/multiverse/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[12:01] <Tm_T> flood
[12:01] <golan77> I tried to use "network settings", but it doesn't solve the problem
[12:01] <Myk3> the gateway is stored in a file called
[12:01] <Myk3> hey thats the error
[12:01] <chaoticgeek> what the
[12:01] <Myk3> im getting on the box
[12:01] <Tm_T> 12:54 < Tm_T> kubuntu.pastebin.com
[12:01] <Myk3> something ".conf"
[12:01] <Tm_T> ;)
[12:02] <Myk3> but i cant remember where
[12:02] <golan77> resolv.conf
[12:02] <Myk3> yea thats it
[12:02] <golan77> in /etc
[12:02] <golan77> it is correct
[12:02] <Myk3> hey thats the error i get when i try to update it
[12:02] <Myk3> the other box
[12:02] <Tm_T> yes
[12:02] <chaoticgeek> how about /etc/apt/
[12:02] <Myk3> whats the file look like?
[12:02] <raphink> jose: in the future, please do not paste on here, use the pastebin
[12:03] <Myk3> sorry
[12:03] <golan77> the file llooks like
[12:03] <chaoticgeek> they have good stuff in there when you do stuff w/ apt program
[12:03] <jose> sorry
[12:03] <golan77> nameserver 123.456.789.123
[12:03] <golan77> with the correct ip address of DNS
[12:03] <golan77> but hte problem is the GW
[12:04] <Myk3> so why cant i see the repos?
[12:04] <golan77> well, I'll try again... thanks for now... I need to reboot :)
[12:04] <golan77> cheers
[12:05] <nalioth> jose: please dont paste in here
[12:05] <Myk3> ok
[12:05] <jose> ok i wont
[12:05] <jose> thsnks
[12:06] <jose> so why cant i get the repos?
[12:06] <jose> to update??
[12:07] <nalioth> backports just opened up yesterday, they may not have propagated across the world yet (besides, there are no programs there now anyway)
[12:07] <chaoticgeek> fortune
[12:07] <chaoticgeek> Random Fortune: ...Deep Hack Mode -- that mysterious and frightening state of consciousness where Mortal Users fear to tread. 	-- Matt Welsh 
[12:07] <jose> i know but why do i get a error
[12:08] <chaoticgeek> Random Fortune: In most countries selling harmful things like drugs is punishable. Then howcome people can sell Microsoft software and go unpunished? 	-- Hasse Skrifvars, hasku@rost.abo.fi,  
[12:08] <chaoticgeek> lol
[12:08] <jose> i am trying to get mp3 support and dvd support
[12:08] <Tm_T> w
[12:08] <Tm_T> awwway ->
[12:08] <chaoticgeek> Random Fortune: Personally, I think my choice in the mostest-superlative-computer wars has to be the HP-48 series of calculators. They'll run almost anything. And if they can't, while I'll just plug a Linux box into the serial port and load up the HP-48 VT-100 emulator. 	-- Jeff Dege, jdege@winternet.com 
[12:08] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: please dont do that in here, fortune the walls out of #kubuntu-offtopic , if you wish
[12:08] <chaoticgeek> oops
[12:09] <jose> so how can i get mp3 support without the repos?
[12:09] <jose> and dvd support
[12:10] <jose> any one
[12:10] <jose> ?
[12:10] <nalioth> jose: you have all the repos you need, you only got errors for something that doesnt exist
[12:11] <jose> yea but when i search for the "gstreamer" it isnt there
[12:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jose about repos
[12:12] <nalioth> jose: enable universe and multiverse
[12:12] <chaoticgeek> wait, jose you are using kubunu
[12:12] <jose> i did
[12:12] <jose> no
[12:12] <jose> ubuntu
[12:12] <jose> 5.10
[12:12] <chaoticgeek> oh
[12:12] <chaoticgeek> never mind
[12:12] <Tm_T> same thing
[12:12] <jose> lol
[12:12] <jose> only diff is kde/gnome
[12:12] <jose> right
[12:13] <Tm_T> no, only diff is Kubuntu has some extra
[12:13] <chaoticgeek> adept package manager showed gstreamer stuff when I went to update before I got universe/multiverse
[12:13] <Tm_T> both have kde && gnome
[12:13] <chaoticgeek> so if you got adept then  you could load that up and see
[12:14] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: it isnt the frontend, it's the sources.list
[12:14] <chaoticgeek> how do I know what stuff kaffeine can play?
[12:14] <chaoticgeek> what?
[12:14] <chaoticgeek> I know adept is a frontend
[12:15] <chaoticgeek> but I edited the sources.list after I got gestreamer files
[12:15] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: if his sources are good, he can find gstreamer using adept, synaptic, apt-get, aptitude, etc
[12:15] <chaoticgeek> ya
[12:15] <chaoticgeek> I see what your saying now
[12:15] <jose> it isnt finding it
[12:16] <chaoticgeek> ok, then I cant help
[12:16] <nalioth> jose: paste your sources list to this place >>
[12:16] <nalioth> !paste
[12:16] <ubotu> somebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:16] <jose> o wait it might have this tikme
[12:17] <kubuntu_guy> gtg guys have to go
[12:26] <Myk3> is libdvdcss in the repos?
[12:28] <nalioth> !libdvdcss2
[12:28] <ubotu> somebody said libdvdcss2 was to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"
[12:28] <Myk3> does that come with 5.10?
[12:28] <Myk3> i think it does
[12:28] <Myk3> so it will decrypt dvd?
[12:29] <nalioth> Myk3: um, read the ubotu post
[12:34] <Myk3> ok
[12:34] <Myk3> how do i use that file for libdvdcss2?
[12:35] <nalioth> Myk3: read the file itself
[12:35] <Myk3> i did
[12:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Myk3 about cli
[12:38] <jose> what is cli?
[12:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jose about cli
[12:38] <Myk3> lol
[12:38] <nalioth> command line interface is your best friend
[12:38] <Myk3> ok what is ubotu?
[12:38] <chaoticgeek> Ok, I want to use kaffine to do all my videos, is this possible?
[12:39] <nalioth> knowing how to get around in the console will save your butt when your xserver goes bye-bye
[12:39] <nalioth> !ubotu
[12:39] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[12:39] <Myk3> lol
[12:39] <Myk3> cool
[12:40] <chaoticgeek> damn I cant play around with him
[12:40] <chaoticgeek> ubotu tell chaoticgeek about msfounts
[12:41] <chaoticgeek> ubotu tell chaoticgeek about msfonts
[12:42] <jose> totem frezzes on dvd playback
[12:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell chaoticgeek about msg the bot
[12:42] <chaoticgeek> I got that
[12:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell chaoticgeek about repeat
[12:42] <chaoticgeek> he tells you about it
[12:43] <Myk3>  ubotu: tell chaoticgeek about ubotu
[12:43] <nalioth> i suspect the msg forms is different tween 'msg the bot' and what you get when you tell yourself
[12:43] <Myk3> any reason why totem is freezing on dvd playback?
[12:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Myk3 about dvd
[12:45] <Myk3> why u tell me about libdvdcss2 when u said just a minute ago about libdvdread3
[12:45] <Myk3> or somehting
[12:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Myk3 about libdvdcss2
[12:46] <nalioth> Myk3: if you dont have the whole set, dvd wont work
[12:46] <jose> o ok
[12:47] <chaoticgeek> ok, do I need the backports for the sources.list uncommented?
[12:47] <chaoticgeek> I assume so
[12:48] <Myk3> what is uncommented
[12:48] <Myk3> ?
[12:48] <chaoticgeek> take the # from infront of the url
[12:49] <Myk3> yea but the backports arnet ready yet
[12:49] <Myk3> i dont belive
[12:49] <nalioth> there are no pkgs in backports at this time, the repo is open though
[12:50] <Kao|Sleep> anyone know how to import mail messages from Thunderbird to KMail?
[12:50] <chaoticgeek> well I get 404 errors for them
[12:50] <Myk3> so do i
[12:50] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: Myk3: then comment them until some pkgs arrive
[12:51] <Myk3> i will
[12:53] <chaoticgeek> I still cant find mplayer-k6 package to install mplayer
[12:53] <ealm> hi
[12:53] <chaoticgeek> hi
[12:53] <ealm> I need a sources.list for kubuntu
[12:53] <ealm> where can I find one?
[12:53] <nalioth> !sources
[12:53] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:54] <chaoticgeek> I was gonna do that
[12:55] <chaoticgeek> my kate does not open up
[12:55] <chaoticgeek> I get the bouncing icon next to my mouse cursor
[12:57] <chaoticgeek> when I try and run kate from the terminal I get "kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed."
[12:58] <jose> how do i add a link to xine in the applications menu/>
[01:02] <jose> ok
[01:03] <Myk3> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[01:11] <Myk3> how do i change th default dvd player from totem to xine?
[01:12] <atidem> hello
[01:14] <aftertaf> chaoticgeek: what does apt-cache search mplayer-   give you? 
[01:15] <chaoticgeek> one sec
[01:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell chaoticgeek about mplayer
[01:16] <chaoticgeek> nothing
[01:16] <chaoticgeek>  > mga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source) w32codecs - win32 binary codecs
[01:17] <chaoticgeek> apt-cache search mplayer gives me that ^^
[01:17] <atidem> root@zeus:/home/atidem# apt-cache search mplayer
[01:17] <atidem> mga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source)
[01:17] <atidem> acidrip - ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder
[01:17] <atidem> libpostproc0 - Mplayer postproc shared libraries
[01:17] <atidem> mencoder-586 - MPlayer's Movie Encoder
[01:17] <atidem> mencoder-custom - MPlayer's Movie Encoder
[01:17] <atidem> mencoder-k6 - MPlayer's Movie Encoder
[01:17] <atidem> mozilla-mplayer - MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla
[01:17] <atidem> mplayer-386 - The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux
[01:17] <atidem> mplayer-586 - The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux
[01:18] <atidem> mplayer-686 - transitional dummy package which can be safely removed
[01:18] <atidem> ?
[01:18] <nalioth> atidem: please dont paste
[01:19] <nalioth> !paste
[01:19] <ubotu> somebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:19] <chaoticgeek> ya nalioth I have seen that, but it does not help me when it keeps telling me that mplayer is not found, does not matter what I use
[01:19] <chaoticgeek> haha
[01:19] <chaoticgeek> thats kinda funny
[01:20] <atidem> I didnt flood the channel nalioth 
[01:20] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: there is no mplayer, there are only mplayer-586 or mplayer-powerpc
[01:20] <nalioth> atidem: not about flooding, it's about pasting
[01:21] <atidem> put something on topic then
[01:21] <atidem> it's better
[01:21] <chaoticgeek> ok, but on the webpage that I got from the bot  it says for amd x86 use mplayer-k6
[01:22] <chaoticgeek> and it says there is no mplayer-586 too
[01:22] <chaoticgeek> and I know Idont have powerpc
[01:23] <chaoticgeek> you can "apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings"
[01:23] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: then you need to enable universe and multiverse
[01:23] <chaoticgeek> I have them enabled
[01:24] <chaoticgeek> I went "sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list" and removed the # from the two urls
[01:24] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: then something is very wrong. have you updated your apt-get since you enabled them?
[01:25] <chaoticgeek> I have updated apt-get quite a few times
[01:25] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: then something is very wrong
[01:25] <nalioth> !info mplayer-586
[01:25] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB
[01:26] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: you need to go back and vi in some multiverse
[01:26] <chaoticgeek> I'm looking through this and I cant find anything talking about multiverse
[01:26] <chaoticgeek> but my kate is messed up so I cant use the source list genorator
[01:27] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: the source list generator is pure bunk
[01:28] <chaoticgeek> what?
[01:28] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: open the sources.list in vi or nano or whatever and change "universe" to "universe multiverse"
[01:28] <nalioth> the source-o-matic is crap
[01:30] <AngryClip> does installing doing an: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop remove gnome ?
[01:31] <chaoticgeek> k well its working now
[01:31] <chaoticgeek> am I going to have to do more to get the gui working?
[01:31] <nalioth> what gui?
[01:31] <chaoticgeek> gmplayer
[01:32] <chaoticgeek> ok thanks
[01:32] <chaoticgeek> it all works
[01:34] <chaoticgeek> finnaly thanks alot nalioth 
[01:35] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: sorry for the growling
[01:35] <chaoticgeek> I got chem at 11 and I have not slept all night
[01:35] <chaoticgeek> no problems, I would have too if I was in your shoes, espicaly at the person that would have been me
[01:35] <chaoticgeek> being new and all
[01:36] <chaoticgeek> its light out again
[01:36] <chaoticgeek> again, thanks alot you were a great help
[01:36] <chaoticgeek> but I need to go get something to eat
[01:37] <nalioth> no excuse for my growling
[01:51] <matt_> hi!
[01:51] <matt_> does anyone know if its possible to play wma files in amaroK
[01:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell matt_ about w32codecs
[01:54] <matt_> oh, ive installed the w32codecs.
[01:55] <nalioth> matt_: if you're trying to access modern microcrap formats, you may not have success
[01:56] <matt_> yeah i thought as much. cheers tho.
[01:59] <Mars_^> Hi somone using kxdocker? I need help. I want to deletye from docker part of it that shows running aplications. How can i do it?
[02:10] <guillermito> Hi I've already installed kubuntu 5.1 and I don know where is my KDE-theme-manager. Can anybody help me?
[02:11] <guillermito> Do I need to install it or what
[02:15] <chaoticgeek> oops
[02:15] <chaoticgeek> didnt want to close that out
[02:17] <qbit> guillermito: while there is an Appearance entry on the System Settings menu you probably want kcontrol - install this with 
[02:17] <qbit> Adept and you'll see the old Kcontrol you're used to
[02:17] <chaoticgeek> I'm gonna crash bad tonihgt
[02:17] <chaoticgeek> if I make it
[02:17] <chaoticgeek> I have not slept in going on 24 hours
[02:17] <chaoticgeek> and college food sucks
[02:18] <qbit> when I was young I used to stay up 3 days at a time but I wouldn't even think of it now...  :-)
[02:18] <guillermito> qbit but can I keep the new k control and including KDE theme manager in it?
[02:18] <qbit> you will have both the System Setting and the Kcontrol
[02:18] <qbit> you can use either
[02:19] <qbit> the System Setting is the new replacement for the old Kcontrol
[02:19] <guillermito> I understand
[02:19] <guillermito> but I'd not like to install to muchh things you know...
[02:19] <guillermito> just the necessary
[02:20] <qbit> lol - yeah I'm working on filling up my 10Gb drive, but I don't think Kcontrol is too large
[02:20] <guillermito> so I prefere to include KDE theme manager in the new k control (System setings)
[02:20] <guillermito> :)
[02:21] <guillermito> that is not the toruble. It's just I dont like to have too mane things.
[02:21] <qbit> I understand
[02:21] <guillermito> So, there's a way to include it in the new Kpanel?
[02:21] <qbit> if there is I don't know
[02:22] <guillermito> ok, thanks a lot qbit?
[02:22] <guillermito> ehh, what do you think about my english?
[02:22] <guillermito> I'm spanish
[02:22] <qbit> not bad - if I can understand then it's just fine  :-)
[02:22] <guillermito> spaniard
[02:23] <guillermito> :) ok
[02:23] <qbit> let me look at something for a second
[02:23] <guillermito> okay i'm doing the same
[02:24] <nalioth> where's my multiple select in konqueror filemangler?
[02:24] <nalioth> i'm using breezy
[02:24] <nalioth> the ctrl key doesnt do it
[02:25] <djk_> nalioth: heh, ctrl+mouse click doesn't select several files?
[02:25] <nalioth> djk_: it does not
[02:26] <guillermito> you could try to configure it ak kcontrol. I thing there's a way
[02:26] <djk_> nalioth: does it work in other progs like k3b?
[02:26] <nalioth> havent tried the other evil guis, yes
[02:27] <nalioth> yes it does work in k3b
[02:27] <qbit> guillermito: I was thinking I could quickly see how the theme manager is launched, but to no avail
[02:27] <djk_> nalioth: finally someone besides me with that problem :) i didn't find a fix. neither here nor in #kde... so krusader is running now.
[02:28] <qbit> guillermito: It is probably just a couple of switches buried somewhere
[02:29] <qbit> It would be a shame to install kcontrol (16.4MB) just to get the theme manager back  :(
[02:29] <AldeBaran> hi
[02:29] <djk_> hehe, krusader is pretty nice actually.
[02:30] <nalioth> i use it, but i prefer konq
[02:30] <AldeBaran> Is it possible to get jigdo files from live kubuntu?
[02:30] <chaoticgeek> you can just d/l the whole dvd iso
[02:30] <AldeBaran> er... "for" even
[02:30] <chaoticgeek> I did
[02:31] <chaoticgeek> almost 24 hours
[02:31] <nalioth> AldeBaran: there are jigdo files for all isos
[02:31] <volker> hi. anybody can help me with backports and extra-repos??
[02:31] <volker> which one are working??
[02:31] <djk_> nalioth: the ctrl+mouse seems to work for pretty much everyone besides us two it seems.
[02:31] <chaoticgeek> backports are not working yet
[02:31] <AldeBaran> ok, assuming I live in Africa and don't have a big fat DSL pipe?
[02:31] <chaoticgeek> oh
[02:31] <AldeBaran> nalioth: I can't seem to find any for the live kubuntu CDs
[02:31] <volker> chaoticgeek: ok
[02:32] <chaoticgeek> keep the # infront of the backports for now
[02:32] <chaoticgeek> but other than that all of them should be working
[02:32] <qbit> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[02:32] <chaoticgeek> yes
[02:32] <chaoticgeek> I think so
[02:32] <guillermito> qbit, yes installing old kcontrol is not a "clean" solution. That's why  I'm trying other way
[02:33] <qbit> and: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-extras main restricted universe multiverse
[02:33] <volker> ok.
[02:34] <volker> ive got some  problems with my ubuntu
[02:34] <chaoticgeek> crap
[02:34] <chaoticgeek> no 3d games work
[02:34] <djk_> which packages include the admin mode fix in breezy?
[02:34] <volker> i cant watch videos and i cant hear my MP3s:(
[02:34] <AldeBaran> ..just by changing sources file :)
[02:34] <volker> which packages should i install?
[02:34] <chaoticgeek> I did an update for my entire system and the admin mode worked
[02:34] <guillermito> qbit http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=63b452c98999779c6b425b7872f7bbff&topic=876.0 here there's a way but I cant do the same as the guys does
[02:35] <djk_> chaoticgeek: well, i don't want to update everything.
[02:35] <chaoticgeek> then I cant help you
[02:35] <chaoticgeek> sry
[02:35] <djk_> chaoticgeek: pretty much just want to be able to set the clock
[02:35] <AldeBaran> sudo ntpdate ?
[02:36] <chaoticgeek> ya I have problems w/ the clock still
[02:36] <AldeBaran> not sure what just happened..
[02:36] <chaoticgeek> ubotu: tell volker about codecs
[02:37] <chaoticgeek> there you go volker the codecs thing is the link that ubotu gave you
[02:37] <chaoticgeek> that should help you with mp3s, and videos
[02:37] <AldeBaran> so, can one get jigdo files for the live kubuntu CDs?
[02:37] <AldeBaran> thyey aren't listed on the website or mirrors
[02:38] <chaoticgeek> I dont know then
[02:38] <nalioth> AldeBaran: you are correct, ask riddell about it when he arrives
[02:39] <guillermito> qbit i coud do it doing the same as the instrucctions in the url I gave you
[02:39] <Alde> nal: ok, thanx
[02:39] <guillermito> it's a bit strage but..
[02:40] <chaoticgeek> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/ if you scroll down find kubuntu-5.10-live-<your processor tyep>.jigdo
[02:40] <chaoticgeek> its under all the cds
[02:40] <Riddell> nalioth: hmm?
[02:40] <chaoticgeek> it has the .iso and .torrent files along side too
[02:40] <chaoticgeek> and all the install and live cds are there
[02:40] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: there are NO jidgo files for live kubuntu
[02:41] <chaoticgeek> I could have sworn I saw one
[02:41] <nalioth> Riddell: Alde was pointing out there are no jidgo files for live kubuntu 5.10
[02:41] <chaoticgeek> guess not
[02:41] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: they exist for install images but not live ones
[02:41] <chaoticgeek> I'm seeing things
[02:42] <manveru> chaoticgeek: are they green and have no pants?
[02:42] <chaoticgeek> no
[02:42] <chaoticgeek> just .jigdo files
[02:43] <manveru> damn, you can't make money with jigdo...
[02:43] <chaoticgeek> volker did that link help you?
[02:44] <chaoticgeek> volker:? are you there?
[02:44] <volker> chaoticgeek: yes thanks very much:D
[02:44] <Alde> hmmmm...hoary also doesn't have
[02:44] <chaoticgeek> oh
[02:44] <volker> chaoticgeek: sorry for beeing so slow;-)
[02:44] <Riddell> no, you can't jigdo live CDs
[02:44] <mrmarcel> hi
[02:44] <chaoticgeek> hi
[02:45] <Riddell> hi mrmarcel 
[02:45] <Alde> riddell: pity, coz I'm sure it could save a lot of downloading
[02:46] <Riddell> Alde: rsync
[02:46] <Riddell> should half the download time
[02:46] <Riddell> see KubuntuFiles on the wiki
[02:47] <guillermito> bye bye
[02:47] <djk_> Riddell: which packages include the admin mode fix in breezy?
[02:48] <chaoticgeek> kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[02:48] <chaoticgeek> crap
[02:48] <Riddell> djk_: kdebase-bin in breezy-updates
[02:48] <chaoticgeek> ok well nalioth I keep getting an error, the one I just said
[02:48] <Alde> riddell: mount ISO image, rsync, burn?
[02:49] <chaoticgeek> do you know of any problems like this? It will not even start up
[02:49] <djk_> Riddell: thanks.
[02:49] <Riddell> Alde: just rsync the .iso file
[02:50] <Alde> ok...will try, thanx :)
[02:53] <chaoticgeek> anyone know of anyproblems where kate (advanced text editor) just stops working?
[02:54] <chaoticgeek> I gte this error
[02:54] <chaoticgeek> kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[02:55] <djk_> how do i delete a ppp connection created with pppoeconf?
[02:55] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: open a konsole and type "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kate"
[02:55] <Alde> I have... try run it command line and see what you get
[02:56] <chaoticgeek> still get the same thing
[02:56] <djk_> chaoticgeek: only had that problem in hoary with sudo kate..
[02:59] <Alde> riddell: why is there no ssh installed on ubuntu live cd?
[03:00] <chaoticgeek> I need some caffine
[03:00] <nalioth> Alde: an ssh client is on the livecd
[03:00] <Alde> nal: I meant server
[03:00] <nalioth> Alde: install the 'ssh' pkg
[03:01] <Alde> nal: I do. But I have to do it everytime I use the box
[03:01] <Riddell> Alde: kubuntu has no servers by default
[03:01] <Alde> ahhhh
[03:02] <Kao|Sleep> anyone know how to import mail messages from thunderbird to kmail?
[03:05] <asmz> Hello. I have problemas installing my USB adsl modem in KUbuntu 5.10; i'm using the eagle-usb driver, but the driver doesn't.. recognize? the modem connected to my PC. It's seems that only the "module" is charged, but only that. How can I search to solve this problem?
[03:06] <qbit> Koa|Sleep: goto Tools and choose Import messages and select Thunderbird if the mails are local
[03:07] <qbit> err - that to KaoticEvil   
[03:08] <KaoticEvil> qbit: i didnt see thta option in kmail...
[03:08] <KaoticEvil> that*
[03:09] <qbit> I'm using Kontact with Kde 3.4.3 and I have that option under Kontact
[03:09] <KaoticEvil> oh, its in kontact.. ok
[03:09] <KaoticEvil> i was just looking in KMail
[03:10] <djk_> i'd like to use my pppoe connection on someone elses computer since it's faster, how do i delete it afterwards? i use pppoeconf to configure it.
[03:11] <KaoticEvil> qbit: they must have taken that out of KDE3.5rc1... because its not there
[03:12] <qbit> ok
[03:13] <KaoticEvil> *sigh*
[03:15] <qbit> My Adept is showing kmail alone as installed but IIRC I installed kdepim manually and some plugins
[03:15] <qbit> Maybe I got it when I did that
[03:15] <chaoticgeek> wow, my college is of no help to me
[03:15] <qbit> but I can't speak to 3.5rc1
[03:16] <KaoticEvil> could be... altho i think kdepim got installed when i upgraded to rc1
[03:16] <chaoticgeek> I can not get some infromation on a degree
[03:17] <KaoticEvil> nevermind, it didnt get installed... getting it now
[03:17] <KaoticEvil> ty qbit :)
[03:17] <chaoticgeek> kdepim just finished for me
[03:17] <KaoticEvil> i cant really see them removing a fdeauture such as that....
[03:19] <qbit> these features get shuffled around from package to package every once in a while  :-)
[03:20] <Myk3> hey how can i install stuff from the cd that wasnt installed on install
[03:21] <chaoticgeek> tired
[03:28] <Myk3> hey is there a way to install software from cd?
[03:28] <dreamping> have someone integrated selinux to kubuntu?
[03:29] <Myk3> im trying to install k3b from the cd
[03:31] <Alde> riddell, nalioth, chaotic: thank you all for your help.
[03:31] <Myk3> hu?
[03:31] <Myk3> anyone
[03:32] <nalioth> Myk3: what cd is it?
[03:32] <Myk3> how can i chnage the default video player?
[03:32] <Myk3> the ubuntu cd
[03:32] <Myk3> 5.10
[03:32] <Riddell> Myk3: k3b isn't on the ubuntu CD
[03:32] <Myk3> damn
[03:33] <penguinzdr> guys what must i do after installing kubuntu-desktop packages on ubuntu?
[03:33] <Myk3> so can i just download the k3b pkg?
[03:33] <Myk3> what other files will i need?
[03:33] <nalioth> Myk3: use adept
[03:33] <nalioth> Myk3: that is what adept is for
[03:34] <penguinzdr> guys what must i do after installing kubuntu-desktop packages on ubuntu?
[03:35] <nalioth> penguinzdr: log out and at the log in screen, click "sessions" and choose 'kde'
[03:35] <pc22> how do i make this>>> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda5 /media/win      writable
[03:35] <Myk3> that pc is  not on the net
[03:35] <Myk3>  right noe
[03:35] <Myk3> now
[03:36] <manveru> pc22: excuse me but i seriously doubt it will work like that
[03:36] <penguinzdr> nalioth: i see that synaptic now installs kdm
[03:36] <pc22> yes it does work
[03:36] <penguinzdr> how can i use it and no use gdm?
[03:36] <Myk3> pc22 is it ntfs?
[03:36] <pc22> dont worry its not windows
[03:36] <nalioth> penguinzdr: you'll be fine
[03:36] <manveru> pc22: ok...
[03:36] <pc22> its ext3
[03:36] <manveru> pc22: however, it should be mounted rw already
[03:36] <penguinzdr> nalioth: ok, i worry if x server crash
[03:37] <pc22> so whats the command?
[03:37] <nalioth> penguinzdr: when kdm is installing, it will ask you which one you want, just keep gdm
[03:37] <penguinzdr> nalioth: and if i select kdm?
[03:37] <nalioth> penguinzdr: you'll use kdm and be happy
[03:38] <penguinzdr> nalioth: great thanks
[03:38] <zercosz> Hi
[03:39] <mianos> wow
[03:39] <mianos> i'm doing a make menuconfig on 2.6.14-2 source
[03:39] <mianos> what is that? ipw2200 intel centrino wlan driver IN the kernel=
[03:39] <mianos> =
[03:39] <mianos> ?
[03:39] <djk_> i'd like to use my pppoe connection on someone elses computer since it's faster, how do i delete it afterwards? i use pppoeconf to configure it.
[03:44] <StR> Hi all!
[03:44] <Myk3> so what files are required for k3b?
[03:44] <StR> are ther already backports for breezy?
[03:44] <Myk3> hey
[03:44] <Myk3> the link is there but noe file
[03:44] <Myk3> s
[03:44] <Myk3> no files
[03:46] <nalioth> Myk3: just use adept for install it
[03:47] <Myk3> that pc is not on the net
[03:47] <chaoticgeek> I'm back
[03:47] <Myk3> is k3b on the old ubuntu cd?
[03:47] <chaoticgeek> k3b is for kde so would it be on the kubuntu cd?
[03:48] <Myk3> ok
[03:48] <Myk3> so cd burning app for gnome?
[03:48] <chaoticgeek> and also I belive you can go 'sudo apt-get install k3b'
[03:48] <chaoticgeek> crap
[03:48] <chaoticgeek> I cant remember right off hand
[03:48] <Myk3> the pc is not on the net
[03:48] <chaoticgeek> ah
[03:49] <Myk3> so i want to either install off disk or dled it and install it via external/thumb drive
[03:49] <chaoticgeek> gnomebaker is the cd/dvd burner for gnome
[03:49] <Myk3> make sense?
[03:49] <chaoticgeek> ya
[03:49] <chaoticgeek> ubuntu should have ti
[03:49] <Myk3> is it as good as k3b?
[03:50] <chaoticgeek> I dont knwo
[03:50] <chaoticgeek> know*
[03:50] <Myk3> i dont see gnome baker
[03:51] <card> meuh
[03:51] <Myk3> ok so how can i install from the kubuntu cd?
[03:51] <nalioth> Myk3: visit packages.ubuntu.com and search for k3b. you'll find all the depends there
[03:51] <Myk3> "k3b"
[03:51] <Myk3> k
[03:52] <chaoticgeek> you can use the adept package manager to install from cd
[03:52] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: k3b is not on the cd
[03:52] <chaoticgeek> oh
[03:53] <Myk3> even from the kubuntu cd?
[03:53] <Myk3> cause i have 5.04 kubuntu
[03:53] <chaoticgeek> so how easy is it to burn a dvd w/ k3b?
[03:53] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: easy as pie
[03:54] <chaoticgeek> I dont like pie
[03:54] <mornfall> nalioth: pies are pretty hard... to cook
[03:54] <chaoticgeek> how about cookies?
[03:54] <chaoticgeek> lol
[03:54] <nalioth> k3b is the best cd/dvd burner in ubuntu, imho
[03:54] <chaoticgeek> ok
[03:54] <chaoticgeek> I'll take your word for it
[03:55] <chaoticgeek>  I got a question
[03:55] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: what do you do with a question?
[03:56] <Myk3> what was that link aqain
[03:56] <Myk3> ?
[03:56] <nalioth> packages.ubuntu.com
[03:56] <chaoticgeek> Is there a big diffrence to d/l the DVD iso and install from that from the regular CD iso?
[03:56] <Myk3> more stuff
[03:56] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: no difference at all. the dvd has a live and install image on it
[03:56] <Myk3> ?
[03:56] <nalioth> Myk3: no sir.
[03:56] <Myk3> o so it has both
[03:57] <chaoticgeek> ok
[03:57] <Myk3> instead of both cds
[03:57] <chaoticgeek> thats what I was thinking
[03:57] <chaoticgeek> I was able to install some stuff from the DVD iso to windows before I got kubnutu up and going
[03:58] <chaoticgeek> but that goes along w/ the free cd project
[04:05] <Myk3> where do i type it in
[04:06] <Myk3> directories?>
[04:09] <acvardar> having problem with the admin password it returns an error "error-kde su" su returned an error. how can i avoid this problem
[04:11] <cvardar> having problem with the admin password it returns an error "error-kde su" su returned an error. how can i avoid this problem? any idea?
[04:13] <chaoticgeek> cvardar: you need to update kdebase-bin in breezy-updates
[04:13] <cvardar> now i cannto conenct to internet becaus ei even cannot modify my ip settings how can i get that package?
[04:14] <nalioth> cvardar: avoid using '
[04:14] <nalioth> su'
[04:14] <nalioth> cvardar: 'su' is for other linux distros, not (k)ubuntu
[04:14] <cvardar> avoid? without su how can i change admin related setttings?
[04:14] <nalioth> !kdesu
[04:14] <ubotu> Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.
[04:15] <nalioth> cvardar: you also need to update your broken admin package as chaoticgeek points out
[04:15] <chaoticgeek> well I'm of to te wild web to find a tv tuner program to watch tv with :) wish me luck
[04:15] <chaoticgeek> yay I'm rihgt
[04:15] <chaoticgeek> right*
[04:16] <hantsjim> hello all
[04:17] <chaoticgeek> lets see what kdetv does
[04:17] <hantsjim> anyone else had trouble with wireless after the adept update?..
[04:17] <cvardar> what about the kubuntu itself doe snot it uses su? because i even cannot enter to admin mode from gui applicatiosn for example admin mode of network settings.
[04:17] <hantsjim> cvardar, that is a bug, for which you need to update to the latest version of kcontrol
[04:18] <hantsjim> although if you do that like I did, you lose wireless
[04:18] <hantsjim> and I cant seem to get it back!
[04:18] <nalioth> cvardar: your admin controls are broken. 
[04:19] <nalioth> cvardar: it is a known bug, see what chaoticgeek said to you above
[04:19] <brokenbro> w the crims
[04:19] <brokenbro> i'M italian!
[04:19] <hantsjim> has anyone else lost wireless after updating?..
[04:19] <brokenbro> seek and destroy!
[04:19] <cvardar> ok letme try thank you 
[04:19] <KaoticEvil> well, whoever that was that suggested installing kdepim to import my mail from t'bird to kmail.. you were right :) cheers!
[04:21] <chaoticgeek> holy shit
[04:21] <chaoticgeek> getting a tv tuner program and my tv tuner card is gonna be fun
[04:22] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: language please, and keep religion out of here, too
[04:22] <KaoticEvil> lol @ keep religion out
[04:22] <chaoticgeek> lol religion
[04:29] <card> hi
[04:29] <card> do you can speak french on another chan for kubuntu?
[04:29] <nalioth> #kubuntu-fr or #ubuntu-fr
[04:29] <card> tx man
[04:30] <nalioth> no problem
[04:31] <chaoticgeek> ok kdetv is not working
[04:34] <cvardar> from where cna i download kdebase-bin latest version .deb file and how can i install it without haveing adminsitrative rights (i mean when su command is not functioning)
[04:35] <nalioth> cvardar: visit kubuntu.org
[04:35] <cvardar> good idea.
[04:35] <nalioth> cvardar: dont use su
[04:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cvardar about root
[04:36] <tilo> Yay
[04:36] <noteventime> :P
[04:37] <noteventime> Any kde gurus here? :D
[04:37] <manveru> how guruistic do he have to be?
[04:37] <manveru> -do+does
[04:37] <noteventime> hehe
[04:37] <noteventime> Not too guru i think ;)
[04:38] <noteventime> I actualy rather need a KDM guru
[04:38] <manveru> well, that's something different
[04:38] <manveru> but maybe i can help you
[04:39] <noteventime> Sometimes when i try to login after i logout  i cant write anything in the txtboxes
[04:39] <manveru> in this case, restart X
[04:39] <manveru> at least it solves the problem for me
[04:39] <cvardar> guruistic approach :)
[04:39] <noteventime> :P Thats what i usualy do
[04:39] <manveru> ^^
[04:39] <noteventime> Hehe, thanks anyway
[04:40] <manveru> sorry, i'm in no way a guru, and never thought more about this problem
[04:40] <cvardar> comeon thisis not a microsoft product,, there should be a way to solve that problem.
[04:40] <cvardar> ;)
[04:40] <noteventime> Yep...
[04:40] <manveru> well, go on and do it...
[04:40] <noteventime> There IS someway... But i dont know it.
[04:40] <noteventime> Maybe its because of moodin
[04:41] <manveru> i won't be able to solve it, since there is not even a error-message or something to focus on
[04:41] <manveru> and it's not like i would login that often...
[04:41] <manveru> also you could use gdm
[04:41] <noteventime> :P im on a laptop so it happens quite often
[04:42] <manveru> (wich doesn't provide shutdown for kde - so you solve a problem by creating a new one, wich sounds very much like murphys law...)
[04:44] <noteventime> :p
[04:46] <chaoticgeek> looks like I have to trouble shoot kdetv
[04:46] <chaoticgeek> but thats for when I'm not so tired
[04:46] <manveru> chaoticgeek: aim at the head... it has no heart
[04:46] <chaoticgeek> kdetv?
[04:47] <manveru> yeah... isn't it just a gui for something else?
[04:47] <chaoticgeek> I dont know
[04:47] <manveru> in case of doubt just ignore what i said and use killall kdetv
[04:48] <chaoticgeek> it was just one of the programs that I saw that could do tv like what I needed
[04:48] <manveru> i've never tried it - is it for analog or digital?
[04:49] <chaoticgeek> I dont know
[04:50] <manveru> do you use satellite or antenna?
[04:50] <chaoticgeek> wintv program for windows automaticly set it all up for me
[04:50] <chaoticgeek> cable
[04:50] <manveru> that's digital then
[04:50] <chaoticgeek> coax connection
[04:50] <chaoticgeek> I just want to be able to record some shows and watch some tv w/ it
[04:50] <manveru> it all comes down to the _just_ :)
[04:51] <chaoticgeek> my anime thats on when I sleep and when my roomie is using his tv so I can watch other stuff
[04:51] <manveru> well, i use a normal tv with HD-recorder to do it...
[05:00] <Mars_^> Hi
[05:08] <freemanen> If have ubuntu and install  kubuntudesktop I just get it in english. How do I get in swedish?
[05:08] <cvardar> i am having problem about the su, as advised i tried to update kdebase-bin using kdesu command but again i receive an error and cannot do anythign that requires admin rights any idea?
[05:08] <nalioth> freemanen: join #kubuntu and ask
[05:09] <nalioth> wait this is #kubuntu  (oh i'm so confused)
[05:10] <Mars_^> how can i remove task manager from kxdocker?
[05:12] <cvardar> 137 people on the list and nobody has an idea how to make access rights working, it is a fresh install, and from the first moment sudo and kdesu and also admin buttons onthe gui applicatiosn are not funstioning, always returnung kde-su error.
[05:19] <Asashi> hey all
[05:20] <Asashi> anyone have a moment to help me with something? 
[05:24] <nalioth> Asashi|help: ask your question
[05:24] <Asashi|help> does anyone know if there is a way to install kubuntu to hard drive from live cd or is the install destro seperate?
[05:24] <Asashi|help> just did :)
[05:25] <Asashi|help> distro*
[05:25] <nalioth> Asashi|help: they are seperate
[05:26] <jjesse> install is seperate right now, in dapper you will be able to install from the live cd
[05:26] <jjesse> only one cd 
[05:26] <Asashi|help> ok..thanks for your help :)
[05:31] <_rolf> !sources
[05:31] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:34] <_g> hi
[05:34] <Myk3> hey
[05:34] <_g> Ich htte mal eine Frage bez. KDE
[05:34] <Myk3> hu?
[05:35] <nalioth> fr deutsch, fragen sie im #ubuntu-de, oder #kubuntu-de
[05:35] <_g> meep. Sorry.
[05:35] <Myk3> english?
[05:35] <nalioth> Myk3: english what?
[05:35] <_g> I've got a question referring to KDE
[05:36] <Myk3> ok
[05:36] <_g> Ive just installed KDE and got following "problem": Window-Captions and Menu-texts are extremely bold (Im currently uploading a Picture)
[05:37] <_g> http://img493.imageshack.us/img493/1098/bildschirmphoto19eu.png
[05:37] <_rolf> for xubuntu i just need to apt-get install xfce4 right?
[05:37] <_g> or xfld-desktop (meta package)
[05:38] <raphink> this is normal _g
[05:38] <raphink> this is how KDE looks on kubuntu by default
[05:38] <_g> mhh. Im not blind XD
[05:38] <raphink> you can change the settings in kcontrol
[05:38] <_g> where exactly?
[05:38] <_g> Appearance->Fonts ?
[05:39] <nalioth> robin_: no, xubuntu-desktop
[05:39] <nalioth> crap
[05:39] <nalioth> _rolf: no, xubuntu-desktop
[05:39] <raphink> yes g
[05:39] <_rolf> nalioth: ah okay, thanks
[05:40] <_g> but the sizes are already set to "10" and it looks nicely in the preview
[05:40] <_g> but not on the desktop
[05:40] <_rolf> will the printer settings done in kde stay?
[05:41] <_g> ok. Done. 9 looks much better. Thank you :)
[05:42] <Mars_^> How to update kxdocker?
[05:45] <nalioth> nikkia: yawn? ya been playin WoW all week long..
[05:46] <nikkia> erm, no, i've been working like crazy for the last 8 hours
[05:46] <nikkia> well, 7hr45
[05:46] <nalioth> i finally put breezy on my powermac
[05:46] <nalioth> sound works now
[05:46] <nikkia> managed to get about 80% of my 'expected to be completed by thursday' workload done today
[05:48] <nikkia> anyway, time for some 'early' WoW i think, be back tomorrow :)
[05:49] <nalioth> nikkia: have fun, (use the $$sys$ to your advantage)
[05:51] <StR> Hi all
[05:51] <StR> how do I install the amarok 1.3.5?
[05:51] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:51] <_rolf> nalioth: when i reboot or shutdown i get a Couldn't evaluate GTM error with some numbers (goes away too fast, so not sure what they are).. what does it mean?
[05:53] <nalioth> _rolf: never heard of that
[05:53] <StR> anyone already using amarok1.3.5?
[05:54] <manveru> StR: if you want it, build it
[05:54] <nalioth> a few of us
[05:54] <StR> manveru: I downloaded the .deb from the kubuntu site, but I don't know how to install it (upgrade my existing one)
[05:55] <manveru> StR: well, i tried it and it kept crashing, so i switched back to my old 1.5.1
[05:55] <manveru> StR: you just do dpkg -i whateverthispackageiscalled.deb
[05:56] <StR> manveru: that will overwrite the one I have installed now?
[05:56] <cvardar> yes, if never.
[05:56] <cvardar> if newer
[05:56] <StR> cvardar: thanks
[05:57] <cvardar> welcome, her ei have a question about admin rights on a  fresh install of latest kubuntu 
[05:57] <cvardar> i can not do anythign that requires admin rights, it gives kde-su error.
[05:57] <_rolf> will the desktop shrtcuts i have in kde be available in xfce?
[05:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell StR about checkinstall
[05:58] <nalioth> StR: better to build it from source and use checkinstall to install it
[05:59] <cvardar> nobody has an idea about the kde-su error?
[06:00] <cvardar> what a bad feeling to be ignored :(
[06:00] <_rolf> cvardar: i'd assume the in the /topic mentioned "admin mode fix" fixes that
[06:01] <cvardar> shoudl i check it in wiki?
[06:01] <nalioth> cvardar: you're not being ignored. i see everything you type
[06:01] <nalioth> cvardar: no one knows the answer to your question
[06:01] <cvardar> :(
[06:01] <nalioth> cvardar: the wiki or forums is a good place to go, i'd check kubuntu.org first
[06:02] <cvardar> people says about kubuntu.org but ic annot see any support page instead of redirecting to forums and chat, is there anythign i am missing?
[06:03] <icewt> _rolf: you can't place shortcuts on desktop in xfce by default
[06:05] <_rolf> icewt: how can i get quick access to certain progs in xfce then
[06:05] <icewt> _rolf: well, you could place them in the xfce panel
[06:06] <_rolf> icewt: good enough i suppose, will the printer settings done in kde be available in xfce?
[06:07] <icewt> _rolf: can't say, i haven't had kde installed when i have used xfce
[06:08] <nalioth> cvardar: come to #kubuntu-offtopic please
[06:09] <jpatrick> hi OculusAquilae 
[06:09] <icewt> _rolf: you can find some desktop solutions for xfce there http://www.lynucs.org/?xfce - if you are lucky, people have mentioned all the programs they have used ;)
[06:10] <OculusAquilae> hi jpatrick
[06:11] <_rolf> icewt: thanks :)
[06:28] <KaoticEvil> is there a way to change the views for konqueror?
[06:28] <KaoticEvil> i remember there being a way to make your own views.. but i cant seem to find it now
[06:28] <nalioth> KaoticEvil: in the view menu
[06:29] <KaoticEvil> nalioth: i cant save the ones i want tho
[06:29] <nalioth> KaoticEvil: tools > save profile
[06:29] <KaoticEvil> nalioth: i dont have that option
[06:30] <nalioth> KaoticEvil: sorry, it's settings (dont you ever explore your menus?)
[06:30] <KaoticEvil> yeah, i do..
[06:31] <KaoticEvil> hmmm.. that only allows me the option to overwrite existing setups :-\
[06:31] <KaoticEvil> that kinda sux0rz.
[06:31] <nalioth> KaoticEvil: have you saved A previous one?
[06:31] <KaoticEvil> nalioth: i cant.. it wont let me create a new profile.
[06:31] <nalioth> you are just overwriting the Default
[06:32] <nalioth> dont creat anything
[06:32] <KaoticEvil> hmm.. save and rename, perhaps..
[06:32] <KaoticEvil> blah.. long way around..
[06:33] <nalioth> KaoticEvil: i dont have those on my konq
[06:33] <KaoticEvil> and the only one i can rename is "simple browsing" o_o
[06:34] <nalioth> KaoticEvil: you are in a browser, no?
[06:34] <KaoticEvil> yeah
[06:34] <KaoticEvil> i go Settings -> Configure View Profiles...
[06:34] <LeeJunFan> KaoticEvil: yeah, that's the new dumbed down menu. Lemme find the link that shows how to get your normal menus back again.
[06:34] <nalioth> dont you want to save the browser settings as they ar now?
[06:34] <KaoticEvil> ah, that would be great
[06:34] <KaoticEvil> nalioth: yeah.. but i want my oen name for it ;)
[06:34] <nalioth> i've got the 'dumbed menus' and have 'save profile'
[06:35] <nalioth> KaoticEvil: the default settings are easy to return to, and it's YOUR box and YOUR account. who else is gonna be naming it ?
[06:35] <Niomi> how do you set default browser in KDE?
[06:35] <LeeJunFan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79941
[06:35] <KaoticEvil> hey LeeJunFan :)
[06:35] <LeeJunFan> oops, that's for KaoticEvil 
[06:35] <nalioth> KaoticEvil: i dont understand at all
[06:36] <KaoticEvil> nalioth: i want to create a new profile name.
[06:36] <KaoticEvil> completely different than the ones that are already there... but i also want to preserve the existing ones
[06:37] <KaoticEvil> however, if i go Settings -> Save View Profile "<foo>" it overwrites the existing one :-\
[06:37] <nalioth> KaoticEvil: you are only overwriting the default
[06:38] <nalioth> KaoticEvil: the default will forever be in /usr/lib/kde/blah
[06:38] <KaoticEvil> nalioth: i dont have the default profile loaded tho...
[06:38] <nalioth> KaoticEvil: go to the URL LeeJunFan sent
[06:38] <KaoticEvil> i did :)
[06:38] <LeeJunFan> !go menu
[06:38] <ubotu> hmm... go menu is Konqueror in kubuntu now has lamer menus, to restore konqueror to it's full powered menus visit http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79941 and follow the instructions there.
[06:38] <KaoticEvil> LOL!
[06:38] <nalioth> i guess my thoughts are " why does KaoticEvil need more than one browsing profile?"
[06:39] <KaoticEvil> nalioth: because im difficult like that ;)
[06:39] <nalioth> LeeJunFan: dont send that forum post any more
[06:39] <LeeJunFan> why?
[06:39] <nalioth> LeeJunFan: there is an official one at kubuntu.org
[06:39] <LeeJunFan> where?
[06:40] <nalioth> http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[06:40] <nalioth> forums are full of unmoderated crackpots
[06:40] <LeeJunFan> nalioth: no problem I'll change it now, thanks.
[06:42] <nalioth> KaoticEvil: WHY do you need more than one browsing profile?
[06:42] <KaoticEvil> nalioth: because i want a small menu in my panel that allows me to load a differnet konqi profile for file browsing, vs one for web browsing... different home pages and such :)
[06:43] <nalioth> KaoticEvil: ummm make a new icon that has konqueror --profile filemanagement    as the command
[06:44] <KaoticEvil> nalioth: thats what i intend to do... but i want to get them setup the way i like first :)
[06:44] <nalioth> KaoticEvil: better yet, type in a konsole "konqueror --help
[06:44] <LeeJunFan> nalioth: removing the "go" menu doesn't really make things easier to use either, having an easy to find way to get to Autostart is nice.
[06:44] <nalioth> make me crazed
[06:46] <LeeJunFan> Mandrake did tons of "dumbing down" stuff like that, which is why I'm now using kubuntu :-/
[06:46] <KaoticEvil> LeeJunFan: i noticed that as well...
[06:46] <KaoticEvil> LOL nalioth.. some of us just like having things "just so"... im one of them :P
[06:47] <LeeJunFan> KaoticEvil: yeah, I don't think bein an expert should be a pre-requisite to have expert options. :)
[06:47] <KaoticEvil> LeeJunFan: exactly! :)
[06:47] <kdude> hello!
[06:47] <kdude> any samba gurus here?
[06:48] <nalioth> kdude: just ask your question
[06:48] <LeeJunFan> in any instance ubotu now understands 'go menu' and 'profiles' if anyone else asks.
[06:48] <kdude> I have setup samba as a PDC. However, I can only login with username and nopassword, even though there is a password set.. WindowsXP is the client.
[06:49] <kdude> I want a username:password login method.. what property is causing this?
[06:50] <LeeJunFan> kdude: and you've set a password for samba with smbpasswd right?
[06:51] <kdude> LeeJunFan: I think I did.. le'me reset it and try again.. smbpasswd right?
[06:52] <LeeJunFan> kdude: also - do you have any "auth methods =" in your /etc/samba/smb.conf?   ---- yes smbpasswd
[06:52] <LeeJunFan> kdude: smbpasswd [username]  to be exact.
[06:52] <LeeJunFan> kdude: smbpasswd -a [username]  to add a user.
[06:53] <kdude> LeeJunFan: I did smbpasswd -U'user'..
[06:53] <kdude> LeeJunFan: it changed..
[06:53] <kdude> le'me try re-login again on windows. Brb.
[06:53] <LeeJunFan> kdude: or that :)
[06:56] <LeeJunFan> KaoticEvil: I see on my system with RC1 that Riddell has not setup the simplebrowser (at least yet) for RC1. There's an rc file for it in /usr/share/apps/konqueror though.
[06:56] <kdude> LeeJunFan:  ;) your da bomb.. that worked..
[06:56] <KaoticEvil> LeeJunFan: cool...
[06:56] <kdude> LeeJunFan: I thought that Unix->Samba syncrhonization supposed to take care of the username and the password..
[06:56] <KaoticEvil> i may just go about hacking up the profile files themselves :P
[06:58] <kdude> LeeJunFan: I have one more problem.. I have another account, that is disabled by Samba, even though it is enabled in Linux..
[06:58] <kdude> any suggestions>
[06:58] <LeeJunFan> kdude: it's disabled apparently. Has something to do with encryption - I haven't used it in years myself.
[06:58] <LeeJunFan> kdude: you may just need to add them. smbpasswd -a [user] 
[06:58] <kdude> but it is enabled in Linux.. that's what I use to logon to my linux box.
[06:59] <djk_> hi, booting dies at "starting hotplug subsytem" almost always on my laptop. what should i do?
[06:59] <kdude> LeeJunFan: It is already added.. maybe I need to delete and add it again.
[07:00] <LeeJunFan> kdude: maybe just the passwd thing. Even though you can log in on linux smb might not have it in it's smbpasswd file.
[07:00] <paines> hi
[07:00] <paines> I bought myself a TFT ( before I had a crt), and now some of the fonts look crappy
[07:01] <kdude> LeeJunFan: I tried the passwd thingi.. but it told me machine 127.0.0.1 rejected the (anonymous) password change: Error was : Account disabled.
[07:01] <paines> antialising is on
[07:01] <LeeJunFan> kdude: smbpassw -e [user] 
[07:01] <LeeJunFan> kdude: to enable it.
[07:02] <LeeJunFan> kdude: smbpasswd --help will show you a lot of options, 'man smbpasswd' will of course show you more in depth instructions for use.
[07:02] <kdude> LeeJunFan: that didn't work.
[07:03] <LeeJunFan> kdude: I wonder if you can delete the user and re-add them, smbpasswd -x [user]  will remove their entry from the smbpasswd file.
[07:05] <kdude> LeeJunFan: tried that already dude.. didn't work.
[07:05] <kdude> LeeJunFan: Kept getting the Account disabled message.
[07:06] <kdude> LeeJunFan: Do you think it has anything to do with the unix groups the account is in?
[07:07] <LeeJunFan> kdude: I dunno, I can't create that error here either by locking or unlocking the samba nor the unix username.
[07:07] <kdude> it's in adm,admin,users..plus more.
[07:10] <LeeJunFan> kdude: I think it has to do with the password sync you turned on. It won't let smbpasswd change the system password I think.
[07:11] <LeeJunFan> kdude: I really haven't done much with password sync myself in recent years.
[07:14] <LeeJunFan> kdude: you may also want to look at options -i and -m in manpage for smbpasswd, as they correspond to PDC setup.
[07:15] <kdude> k
[07:15] <LeeJunFan> sorry I can't be of more help.
[07:16] <kdude> LeeJunFan: no prob man.. you helped me alot.. I did 'su' at the shell, ran the smbpasswd  -x user.. -a user.. and i got results..
[07:16] <kdude> I didn't get results the lasttime..
[07:17] <kdude> it actually worked this time LeeJunFan: ..thanks again.
[07:18] <kdude> I wasn't executing the commands as 'su'
[07:18] <LeeJunFan> ah. cool.
[07:20] <LeeJunFan> hey, it's Knowerrors! look everyone Knowerrors is here! :)
[07:20] <oracel> :s
[07:20] <LeeJunFan> There, now I can check that off my to-do list for today: "Make someone feel special"
[07:20] <LeeJunFan> :p
[07:22] <Knowerrors> Wooo Hooo, Ima soo spacial afeelin :)
[07:23] <libben> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29398
[07:23] <LeeJunFan> lol
[07:23] <kdude> LeeJunFan: is there any synchronisation that creates the /profiles/username automatically? Or do I have to manually create that directory myself for each user I need roaming profile for?
[07:24] <LeeJunFan> kdude: I beleive you have to add them manually.
[07:24] <LeeJunFan> kdude: that's so you don't end up giving samba access by default and giving it to someone who you don't want to have it.
[07:25] <kdude> LeeJunFan: one more thing.
[07:25] <Knowerrors> Hey LeeJunFan: I just downloaded wine cvs overnight by modem, not sure if I got it all... got 35.8MB, any way to check if thats all?
[07:26] <kdude> LeeJunFan: How do you give a user Administrative rights on WindowsXP when logged in to the samba PDC?
[07:26] <LeeJunFan> Knowerrors: go to the directory it created and run cvs update -PCd - to get anything missing or changed
[07:27] <LeeJunFan> kdude: got me on that one. :)
[07:27] <kdude> LeeJunFan: :) hehe! Do you do any remote User/Domain administration?
[07:30] <LeeJunFan> kdude: very little. I try to avoid windows as much as possible.
[07:30] <LeeJunFan> kdude: I work with lots of unix servers. :)
[07:30] <kdude> ;) hehe!!. I have no choice.. I use Visual Studio.Net..
[07:30] <Flosoft> does anyone know about KVIRC integration in Ubuntu? Y there is such an old version?
[07:31] <LeeJunFan> kdude: that's how I learn everything about windows - when I have no other choice.
[07:31] <kdude> LeeJunFan: I was only wondering what's the best tool to remotely administer the Domain, and Users from a GUI mode, and not from console.
[07:32] <Knowerrors> thx LeeJunFan , thats working, dlin more now
[07:32] <LeeJunFan> kdude: might look into webmin for samba admin and config. There's also a program called SWAT that will change any option under the sun for samba.
[07:33] <LeeJunFan> kdude: for either of those you will need to enable your linux root account by setting a password for root if you have not done so already.
[07:33] <LeeJunFan> kdude: actually webmin you won't need to, that one you just need to put a password in.
[07:36] <kdude> LeeJunFan: Webmin ha?... true.. I'll see what options webmin have.. I tried SRVTOOLS.EXE from microsoft..
[07:36] <kdude> it ran ok. loaded the domain, and users,, but it gave an error on the unix group.. saying no such group..
[07:37] <kdude> i'll google srvtools.exe to see why that happened.. apart from that. i'll stick with webmin.. I like the srvtools.exe though cause it gives me a nice listview of users, and lot of options via windows.
[07:39] <kdude> anyways dude.. have to get some work done.. lata
[07:40] <LeeJunFan> kdude: I think you have to make sure the user you are logging in as from windows is a member of a group that is defined as admin for the domain in your smb.conf.
[07:40] <LeeJunFan> later.
[07:52] <Flosoft> does anyone know about KVIRC integration in Ubuntu? Y there is such an old version?
[08:15] <oneman> Hi
[08:16] <oneman> Can someone provide me with the /etc/networking/interfaces file and /etc/apt/sources.list file, im writing a  quick howto to include for ubuntu/kubuntu users but i dont have it installed and I need to reference those files
[08:16] <nalioth> !sources
[08:16] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:16] <freemanen> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[08:16] <freemanen> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[08:16] <freemanen> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[08:17] <freemanen> what does this error mean?
[08:17] <LeeJunFan> oneman: I could give you mine, but they are configured for my system of course.
[08:17] <oneman> LeeJunFan, thats fine actualy because ive seen the originals so I can it close enough
[08:17] <oneman> that would do me much good
[08:17] <LeeJunFan> oneman: how do you want them?
[08:18] <oneman> http://www.rafb.net/paste/
[08:18] <nalioth> freemanen: install kde-devel
[08:19] <freemanen> oki thanks
[08:19] <nalioth> freemanen: watch your priv msgs
[08:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell freemanen about xincludes
[08:19] <nalioth> freemanen: those two bits of info SHOULD fix you up
[08:19] <freemanen> ???
[08:19] <LeeJunFan> oneman: hrm, I just noticed my interfaces file is pretty much empty - I config my wireless with a script. :)
[08:20] <nalioth> freemanen: the kde-devel and the priv msg from ubotu should fix you up
[08:20] <freemanen> oki
[08:20] <murray_> when locking session, it seems like the kde screensaver kicks in
[08:21] <murray_> is there a way to get xscreensaver instead?
[08:22] <Flosoft> does anyone know about KVIRC integration in Ubuntu? Y there is such an old version?
[08:22] <LeeJunFan> oneman: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/U0goRB27.html
[08:23] <nalioth> Flosoft: visit kubuntu.org and see about the newer ones
[08:23] <corona> hi in adept i am getting an error against the amarok package..it says BROKEN install and i cant remove it
[08:23] <Flosoft> well there is none in the apt-get sources ...
[08:23] <Flosoft> there is only 2.***
[08:23] <Flosoft> out @ the moment is 3.20
[08:27] <LeeJunFan> corona: apt-get -f install amarok
[08:29] <corona> LeeJunFan: it says E: The package amarok needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[08:31] <Flosoft> is there anyone here that makes the list of apps that are each included in a Kubuntu Release?
[08:31] <Flosoft> so that anyone could update the release of KVIrc to 3.20
[08:33] <oneman> LeeJunFan, thanks
[08:33] <oneman> http://industrialstrengthsolutions.com/ubuntu-centrino/
[08:33] <corona> LeeJunFan: its still borken :( and nothing seems to work
[08:34] <nalioth> corona: where did you get amarok in the first place?
[08:35] <corona> from the kubuntu page i got 1.3.5
[08:35] <LeeJunFan> corona: what about removing it with dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq amarok?
[08:35] <corona> i shall try that
[08:37] <corona> it says need an action option??? i dont understand
[08:37] <LeeJunFan> corona: add a -r in there
[08:38] <nalioth> corona: then go get it again and use dpkg to install it
[08:38] <nalioth> LeeJunFan: forcing is never a good option
[08:38] <corona> it removed it and said forcing is a bad idea...
[08:39] <corona> it also said always install and then remove..but then thats kind of funny ;)
[08:40] <corona> i have both gstreamer and amarok 1.3.5 can someone give me the dpkg command so that it installs...i have been mucking around with adept and apt-get both were giving problems
[08:40] <oneman> LeeJunFan, can I get one more thing from you
[08:40] <oneman> LeeJunFan, can I get your /boot/grub/menu.lst 
[08:41] <oneman> Or if anyone has a nearly stock one ;] 
[08:41] <nalioth> corona: when you install and remove, it gets all the pieces that are left when you --force it
[08:42] <corona> ok so you mean i should install it and then remove it before finally installing it again...
[08:42] <oneman> Gah
[08:42] <oneman> Allmost done with this howto ;] 
[08:44] <LeeJunFan> oneman: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/eS10FT88.html
[08:44] <oneman> Rad 
[08:44] <oneman> thanks!
[08:44] <LeeJunFan> np, I think that one is totally stock.
[08:48] <_thumper_> Hi All, anyone else getting superkaramba crashing every now and then?
[08:49] <_thumper_> On 3.5RC1
[08:49] <_thumper_> Also, since the upgrade I've lost the icons in Kontact for mark as spam / not spam
[08:51] <LeeJunFan> _thumper_: in the menu or on the message list?
[08:54] <LeeJunFan> _thumper_: nevermind, they both work on mine anyway. The spam icons that is.
[08:54] <oneman> http://industrialstrengthsolutions.com/ubuntu-centrino/ << thanks its done
[08:54] <oneman> hope it helps someone
[08:57] <_thumper_> LeeJunFan, it was on the menu bar
[08:59] <LeeJunFan> _thumper_: works for me.
[08:59] <LeeJunFan> _thumper_: are you using something other than crystal for your iconset?
[09:00] <LeeJunFan> _thumper_: also - is this for a new user account created after updating to RC1 or an existing one (which may have icons saved in the $HOME/.kde dir)?
[09:04] <_thumper_> LeeJunFan, existing user.  Same one that it was installed with
[09:04] <corona> anyone help me a bit with amarok?
[09:04] <_thumper_> Not sure on the icon set though
[09:05] <LeeJunFan> _thumper_: hrm, that's odd then.
[09:05] <manveru> corona: what's your problem?
[09:05] <corona> manveru: hi i shall paste it
[09:06] <manveru> corona: just give me a short description
[09:07] <corona> manveru: it says SWFDEC: ERROR....tag func define font_2:langcode1
[09:08] <corona> manveru: is it something to do with libtag?
[09:09] <manveru> corona: no, it looks like you want to play a flash-movie...
[09:09] <manveru> corona: please try it at #amarok
[09:10] <corona> manveru: ok
[09:11] <toby> Does anyone know why, when I change my IP from DHCP to fixed, I lose my network connection? I am behind a router, and have my other PC (XP) on fixed IP.
[09:12] <manveru> toby: this is how it works...
[09:12] <toby> i.e. if DHCP gives me 192.168.2.2 then I can connect fine, but if I choose 192.168.2.2 then I have no connection
[09:12] <manveru> toby: you get your network-config through dhcp - if you don't specify a gateway you have no connection
[09:13] <toby> So, under the 'routes' tab in my System Settings/Network Settings, I have 'Default Gateway IP: 192.168.2.1'. That is my router. Should I use the WAN gateway IP instead?
[09:14] <toby> (fwiw, on the other PC, I use 192.168.2.1)
[09:14] <LeeJunFan> toby: no - your router is right.
[09:14] <LeeJunFan> toby: can you ping your router?
[09:14] <toby> Good question. I shall leave, try, and return....
[09:14] <LeeJunFan> toby: you may have your netmask set wrong, in which case if your subnet mask doesn't encompass the IP address of your router then your computer can't talk to your router.
[09:15] <toby> 255.255.255.0 - pretty standard stuff
[09:15] <spiral> hi
[09:15] <toby> brb
[09:19] <toby> I'm back! Whether my IP is static or dynamic, when pinging my router, I get 'ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted'
[09:19] <manveru> do it via sudo
[09:20] <toby> manveru: I tried that, but to no avail. Same message.
[09:21] <manveru> hmm, not sure what this is then - maybe you could google it
[09:21] <LeeJunFan> toby: do you have any type of firewall setup on your linux box?
[09:22] <LeeJunFan> toby: I think something set sysctl to not allow icmp or something.
[09:22] <toby> *reads /var/log/messages* *sees many ICMP packets* *slaps forehead*
[09:23] <toby> LeeJunFan: thx :D
[09:23] <LeeJunFan> toby: try this 'sysctl net.ipv4.icmp_echo_ignore_all'
[09:26] <liqs> hi all
[09:27] <liqs> can someone please tell me why i cannot access my (ntfs) partitions from kubuntu even though they are mounted as rw?
[09:27] <toby> ...test
[09:27] <toby> am I disconnected?
[09:27] <toby> ...test...
[09:27] <manveru> passed
[09:27] <liqs> it says either i have no permission (in KDE) or it was read only (console)
[09:28] <sampan> liqs, ntfs is "read only" 
[09:28] <liqs> okay, but why can't i even read it then?
[09:29] <toby> Okay, I
[09:29] <sampan> are the permissions set right?
[09:29] <liqs> i would say so, but i'm not sure
[09:29] <liqs> what do you need to tell me if they're right?
[09:29] <toby> Okay, I've opened my firewall and am able to ping my router when my IP is static. IRC and WWW do not work however.
[09:30] <corona> manveru: hey i had this swfdec installed: a gstreamer plugin- removed it and it works now. thanks anyway
[09:30] <sampan> liqs, have you mounted it?  manually, or is it in your fstab? 
[09:31] <liqs> it's  in fstab, should i post the mountingoptions?
[09:32] <sampan> liqs, sure ... my fstab line for my ntfs partition is a simple one: /dev/hdb1       /media/windata     ntfs    umask=0222        0       0
[09:32] <liqs> okay, mine is more complex... maybe i should just reduce it
[09:32] <liqs> dev/hda2 /windows/daten1 ntfs defaults,uid=0,gid=100,auto,rw,user 0 0
[09:33] <liqs> what does umask=0222 do?
[09:34] <sampan> hrmmmmm ... i'm a newb, but maybe the defaults is what's doing it with the permissions... i'm not even sure what the umask=0222 does (too newb) but i got it from wiki's and faqs
[09:34] <sampan> :X
[09:34] <liqs> okay, i'll just try
[09:35] <palodequeso> How can I check to make sure my laptop cpu scaling is working?
[09:37] <sampan> liqs, just doing some googling and umask=0222 gives users read-only access
[09:39] <liqs> hm, i changed the line in fstab accordingly but after remounting it still says no permission
[09:39] <sampan> hrmmmm 
[09:39] <liqs> i'll read a bit about mounting, maybe it helps :)
[09:40] <sampan> sometimes reading does wonders!  D:
[09:40] <sampan> errrr :D
[09:40] <liqs> btw,i got another problem. my soundcard is reported busy and all  output is rerouted to /dev/null
[09:40] <TheVox> anybody else having trouble upgrading to kde3.5rc1?
[09:42] <sampan> liqs, what are the permissions on your /windows/daten1/ directory?  maybe all you need is to change that to 555 ?
[09:43] <liqs> it also gives me an error due to read only
[09:43] <Bicchi> there is a program that i like but right now its on "universe candidate" wish list and not on the repositories. How long does it usually take before it goes into the repositories and be available to everyone.
[09:44] <sampan> liqs, can you do sudo chmod 555 /windows/daten1/  ?  
[09:48] <liqs> no, same error
[09:52] <sampan> weird ... i'm stumped (of course that's not saying much ... i get stumped with the easiest things in linux)
[09:52] <liqs> yeah, i know that feeling. knowing most intimate details in windows and then being unable to even access my files in linux...
[09:53] <liqs> but it's sth new to learn :)
[09:53] <sampan> lol yeah ... it gets funny though when i actually do solve something, but then can't remember how or what i did to solve it
[09:54] <sampan> i feel like the proverbial monkeys banging on typewriters to produce shakespeare's plays -- eventually if i try everything something will work -- but i'll never be able to repeat it again :/
[09:55] <liqs> hehe. well at least i have no hardware (except my soundcard) that doesn't work out of the box
[09:55] <liqs> suse was much worse in that respect
[09:56] <oracel> I just tried out that 2.6.14 kernel with the ck5 patchset, I didn't notice any difference except the rubberband being even slower than usual, and that wifi didn't work
[09:57] <MT> o.0
[10:00] <liqs> yeah :D
[10:00] <liqs> got it
[10:01] <liqs> i just deletet the line from fstab and mounted manually
[10:01] <liqs> now its at least readable for root
[10:01] <MT> my eth0 wont enable, i try enabling it in kcontrol and it just reverts back to being disabled right before my eyes
[10:15] <_alessandro> hellllo
[10:17] <LjL> guys, i suppose kubuntu.org's kde 3.5rc1 repository is being updated, as my aptitude is trying to update a lot of packages but i get 404s for most of them?
[10:18] <callisto> does anyone else in here have an ati mobility card?
[10:18] <funkyHat> is amaroK working by default in breezy? or do i still need to install a different version/do other odd stuff?
[10:19] <callisto> it works for me amarok that is
[10:19] <LjL> i think it worked by default, but don't quite remember
[10:20] <cryptom> is there anyone from switzerland? how do I have to set LC_* in /etc/environment to get everything in english, except the characterlayout in swiss german and the possibility to write  
[10:20] <callisto> does anyone else experience freezes when they have 3d accel. and use the shortcut keys to switch between displays
[10:23] <che_benway> my system stops during bootup when it gets to LOOKING UP NETWORK INTERFACES. Can anyone help?
[10:23] <manveru> stops or just takes a long time?
[10:24] <che_benway> sorry. takes a VERY long time
[10:24] <manveru> this is dhcp searching for a dhcp-server
[10:24] <manveru> you can speed it up with setting a static ip-address if you don't use dhcp
[10:24] <che_benway> ok
[10:25] <MT> my eth0 wont enable, i try enabling it in kcontrol and it just reverts back to being disabled right before my eyes
[10:25] <manveru> this is done by the system-settings>network
[10:25] <che_benway> i think i get assigned on by my ISP
[10:25] <manveru> che_benway: no, not for eth0 i would say
[10:26] <manveru> MT: common bug... tho i don't know if it isn't solved already
[10:27] <MT> well is there an easy workaround? :-/
[10:27] <che_benway> manveru: i am in settings now. the only options i have are dhcp and boot p
[10:27] <Firetech> is 3.5rc1 stable enough for everyday use?
[10:27] <manveru> Firetech: for every-day crashes maybe :)
[10:28] <manveru> MT: searching for a bugfix, the only workaround i know is editing your network-config by hand
[10:28] <che_benway> manveru: should i change to bootp?
[10:28] <MT> :-[
[10:28] <manveru> che_benway: not sure what you are seeing at the moment
[10:28] <MT> other than that kubuntu is mighty slick
[10:29] <manveru> che_benway: how does your network-setup look like? how do you connect to the internet?
[10:29] <che_benway> manveru:
[10:29] <che_benway> manveru: i have a broadband connection. always on
[10:29] <che_benway> in network settings i have the following:
[10:30] <che_benway> Automatic - DHCP or BOOTP. And Maunal ( ip address and netmask)
[10:30] <manveru> che_benway: what kind of broadband?
[10:30] <manveru> che_benway: satellite, adsl, cable?
[10:30] <liqs> if i convert my ntfs-partitions to fat32 i should be able to read/write from both windows and linux, right? if so, how do i do it, without loosing data
[10:30] <che_benway> cable
[10:31] <che_benway> manveru: cable
[10:31] <manveru> che_benway: so dhcp should work for you i guess
[10:31] <manveru> che_benway: have no experience with cable, you know :) i don't know how you connect
[10:31] <KaoticEvil> hey everyone :)
[10:31] <Firetech> manveru: does it crash a lot?
[10:32] <manveru> che_benway: but i guess you should set it to manual (ip-address 192.168.0.1)
[10:32] <manveru> hey KaoticEvil could use some help :)
[10:32] <che_benway> manveru: it worked fine up till Friday. My ISP disconnected my service. I got it installed today but then i geth this issue on booting up
[10:32] <KaoticEvil> manveru: uhh.. i dont know if im the one to ask.. but i can try :)
[10:32] <manveru> Firetech: not sure, didn't try, it's only what i have heard
[10:32] <manveru> liqs: you should be able to read/write without converting them (wich is not gonna work without formatting)
[10:33] <che_benway> Oh. The other thing. My network card blew (not sure how). But I replaced it and got a  connection
[10:33] <liqs> manveru: well atm i can mount & read as root, and do nothing as user
[10:34] <manveru> liqs: did you read the forums and wiki on ntfs?
[10:34] <MT> now all thats left is to get ipcop to go online :/
[10:34] <manveru> che_benway: well, this might be your new card looking for a address
[10:35] <manveru> che_benway: just give it one, doesn't matter when it gets another one later on
[10:35] <liqs> manveru: wiki didn't really tell me much about ntfs, where do i find the forums?
[10:35] <manveru> MT: still searching :) i'm a bit busy here ^^
[10:35] <che_benway> manveru: ok. will try that. thanks for all your help
[10:36] <manveru> liqs: http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[10:36] <Noaires> anybody try building wine from cvs, and get to the end where it asks for root password?  it doesn't accept the sudo password and fails... whats up here?
[10:37] <liqs> thx manveru :) *wandering off to the forums*
[10:37] <manveru> MT: found a good article for you http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-82258.html
[10:38] <manveru> puh... now to you Noaires :)
[10:38] <manveru> did you follow the instructions from the wiki for wine?
[10:39] <pv_> there are debs for wine on winehq.org
[10:39] <manveru> yeah... are they built daily?
[10:39] <Noaires> no, Im using this howto: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996&highlight=Internet+Explorer+Wine
[10:40] <MT> thanks manveru
[10:40] <manveru> Internet Explorer works in wine??
[10:40] <Noaires> yeah, hehe, you didn't know that?!!!
[10:40] <manveru> kinda cool :)
[10:40] <manveru> i've never used wine...
[10:40] <Noaires> I fixed it, had to do sudo make install
[10:40] <pv_> they are quite recent, 0.9.1 or so. 
[10:40] <MT> ie in wine? what a waste :P
[10:40] <manveru> that means - i've never got deeper than installing it
[10:40] <Noaires> they assume you have a root account with the cvs install
[10:41] <manveru> Noaires: just do sudo -i before
[10:41] <Noaires> MT: some websites just won't run w/o IE, especially many finanical or ecommerce sites, also good for testing web pages I make myself
[10:42] <Noaires> 90% or so of net users are on IE
[10:42] <manveru> indeed
[10:42] <manveru> i have a windows-pc standing here for that...
[10:42] <manveru> never thought about running it in wine
[10:42] <MT> 90%?
[10:42] <MT> its 85 now :P
[10:43] <manveru> MT: depends on the page :)
[10:43] <manveru> think /. is down to 50% by now
[10:43] <MT> well /. is a bunch of leftist geeks ;)
[10:43] <manveru> ^^
[10:44] <manveru> even my parents use firefox now
[10:44] <MT> my grandpa uses it :P
[10:44] <notech> hi
[10:45] <MT> and my dad, which was the hardest
[10:45] <MT> hi notech
[10:45] <manveru> well, getting them to linux might prove impossible
[10:45] <Noaires> Hey manveru: how bout this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89854 ?
[10:45] <notech> could you suggest me some repositories to add to sources.list where i can find more software?
[10:45] <MT> manveru
[10:45] <MT> im slowly working them to linux
[10:46] <Noaires> my folks are already on linux
[10:46] <manveru> ubotu: tell notech about repositories
[10:46] <MT> well my family never noticed when i switched thunderbird in for outlook
[10:46] <manveru> MT: it's hard to do - but almost every software they run now is OS
[10:47] <manveru> Noaires: what is this link for? :)
[10:49] <MT> manveru, my family absolutely LOVES openoffice and the other oss stuff
[10:49] <liqs> manveru: thanks for the hint to the forum. i found a way to mount my disk at least readable to all users
[10:49] <manveru> MT: yeah, especially since i promised them to repair their system if they only use the softare i provide them
[10:50] <manveru> MT: but my sister is die-hard-windows-user
[10:50] <Noaires> manveru: need help fixing question posted there :)
[10:50] <notech> anyone know how to resolve this kubuntu 5.10 bug:  ...
[10:51] <manveru> Noaires: sorry, but i have no clue :)
[10:52] <manveru> Noaires: but SCSI-emulation for USB???
[10:52] <Noaires> thx, I keep asking twice a day til someone does
[10:52] <manveru> Noaires: last time i saw something like that was years ago for my cd-burner
[10:52] <notech> in system settings-login manager for example i cant change nothing! i need to be root privileges but if i tap onto root button after typing psw i can't change nothing again!
[10:53] <Noaires> don't know, though thats how linux treated a usb disk...
[10:53] <notech> any ideas how to solve?
[10:53] <manveru> notech: same problem like ~200 others
[10:53] <notech> :)
[10:53] <manveru> somebody messed up the system-settings
[10:54] <notech> it is not fun.. :/
[10:54] <manveru> and now everyone has a buggy thing lying around (wich works for 20% though)
[10:54] <manveru> i know...
[10:54] <notech> so no fix for now?
[10:54] <manveru> you have to go the traditional way i fear
[10:55] <notech> sorry,i am really new to linux! even dont know about reposiories,really dont know a 'traditional way'
[10:56] <manveru> notech: well, you are in the right channel for questions about it
[10:56] <MT> notech, you have to dive into config files :-/
[10:56] <notech> :) 
[10:56] <notech> :/
[10:56] <manveru> i gave you already info about repositories
[10:56] <manveru> now, what do you want to do with the system-settings-menu?
[10:56] <notech> about repositories: i have enabled all repositories in synaptics,done a refresh..
[10:57] <notech> but i can't find for example chromium ( a game)
[10:57] <notech> is it on another rep.? hoe do i find what rep?
[10:57] <manveru> !info chromium
[10:58] <ubotu> chromium: (Fast paced, arcade-style, scrolling space shooter), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-7ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 104 kB, Installed size: 424 kB
[10:58] <notech> sorry to bother u
[10:58] <notech> i do in console: sudo apt-get install chromium but it finds nothing
[10:58] <manveru> ok
[10:58] <manveru> could you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to http://rafb.net/paste ?
[10:59] <nalioth> !info chromium
[10:59] <ubotu> chromium: (Fast paced, arcade-style, scrolling space shooter), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-7ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 104 kB, Installed size: 424 kB
[11:00] <notech> done..
[11:00] <manveru> nalioth: please take over here... need to finish some work asap
[11:00] <notech> is something wrond with my sources.list?
[11:01] <manveru> notech: paste the url here - have to go, sorry
[11:01] <notech> http://rafb.net/paste/results/bF7VWi86.html
[11:01] <notech> sorry
[11:01] <LeeJunFan> notech: you uncommentd the src universe but not the regular one.
[11:01] <LeeJunFan> line 20
[11:02] <notech> ;) i presume this is my problem? thanx..
[11:02] <LeeJunFan> notech: yeah, should be. np.
[11:03] <notech> Great! :)
[11:03] <nalioth> manveru: take over what?
[11:04] <notech> :) other question..in konqueror i can't edit sources.list so i start konsole and type sudo kate
[11:04] <notech> then navigate to the file and edit it!
[11:04] <{slacky}> hello I installed KUbuntu
[11:04] <{slacky}> but now I want to upgrade to the last packages
[11:04] <MT> so did i!
[11:04] <notech> when i close kate,and try to run again i receive an error!
[11:05] <{slacky}> I start the apgrade but the system ask me the root password
[11:05] <notech> i need to restart pc all the times to start kate again!
[11:05] <{slacky}> I never defined a "root" password
[11:05] <manveru> notech: use 'kdesu kate'
[11:05] <{slacky}> what can I do?
[11:05] <notech> thank you
[11:05] <chaoticgeek> hello all
[11:05] <manveru> {slacky}: input your user-password
[11:05] <manveru> ubotu: tell {slacky} about root
[11:05] <manveru> hmm, got finished earlier than i imagined :)
[11:05] <chaoticgeek> kate is working again for me
[11:06] <{slacky}> manveru: thank you
[11:06] <{slacky}> it works :D
[11:06] <manveru> should i add "kate is working again for me" to famous last words? :)
[11:06] <nalioth> slow-motion: there is no root password, use your user password
[11:07] <djk_> manveru: most certainly :p
[11:08] <{slacky}> updating all the system stuff I can always get the last release of all the system as for slackware-current or I need to reinstall KUbunto between 6 month with the new release?
[11:08] <notech> but this is not happening only with kate, with konqueror,etc.. too! i always need to restart pc to start something..is this couse bad command i use?
[11:08] <manveru> notech: i already said, use 'kdesu kate' or 'kdesu konqueror' instead of sudo
[11:09] <notech> sudo is really this bad? thank u.
[11:09] <manveru> {slacky}: you can upgrade to the next distro with ease
[11:09] <manveru> notech: not bad... but not fitting for graphical apps
[11:10] <manveru> notech: btw, there is the right-click>run/edit-as-root
[11:10] <manveru> in konqueror
[11:10] <{slacky}> with the system upgrade I can get KDE 3.5.0 when it will be in final release directly from the repository or not?
[11:10] <notech> really? :) didnt know..i said i am new to linux! thank u manveru
[11:11] <manveru> notech: np - this channel is how i learned about it as well :)
[11:11] <nalioth> notech: you'll think "this bad" when your system starts throwing errors, cuz it can't write to your own files (cuz root ate the permissions)
[11:11] <manveru> {slacky}: you can use dist-upgrade for it later
[11:11] <notech> this is a great channel!
[11:11] <notech> and i have  too many questions!
[11:11] <manveru> {slacky}: and you can install kde 3.5 before, but on your very own risk
[11:12] <LeeJunFan> notech: look at it this way, if sudo eats your permissions you'll learn how to fix more stuff :)
[11:12] <{slacky}> manveru: I read the the KDE 3.5.0 packets for KUbuntu has a lot of problems
[11:12] <notech> i have a partition (hda 0,0) to mount,how do i?
[11:12] <manveru> {slacky}: of course they have - it is still the RC1
[11:12] <LeeJunFan> I'm running 3.5 w/o too much problem.
[11:13] <manveru> LeeJunFan: but you know how to handle problems if they arise :)
[11:13] <LeeJunFan> yeah, I wouldn't rec giving 3.5rc1 to a newbie.
[11:14] <{slacky}> LeeJunFan: I'm not a newbie, but for KUbuntu yes
[11:14] <{slacky}> LeeJunFan: I use Linux from 3,5 years
[11:14] <{slacky}> I use Slackware and I'm installing KUbuntu on my friend PC
[11:14] <LeeJunFan> {slacky}: ah, then you could probably put up with or fix it yourself pretty well too.
[11:15] <{slacky}> so I just want to know if it's simply to update it with me
[11:15] <{slacky}> so I just want to know if it's simply to update it without me
[11:15] <LeeJunFan> {slacky}: only problem I really had was konqueror crashing on mouse-over icon, when I figured out it was related to sound preview I just turned that feature off.
[11:15] <notech> can someone help me with mount command?
[11:15] <{slacky}> I don't want my friend tell me: "damn you and Linux" :D
[11:16] <manveru> ubotu: tell notech about mount
[11:16] <notech> i need to mount a windows part. (hd0,0) i type mount .. then?
[11:16] <{slacky}> I get KUbuntu at aKademy this year
[11:16] <notech> :)
[11:16] <{slacky}> so I tryed the live CD
[11:16] <notech> !windowsdrives
[11:16] <ubotu> it has been said that windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:16] <{slacky}> so now I installed it on my friend PC to let him know Linux
[11:17] <{slacky}> I get the 5.10 DVD
[11:17] <LeeJunFan> notech: mount /dev/hda1 [where you want it mouted]  - but there are a lot of options available with mount for that too. try 'man mount'
[11:17] <{slacky}> I've got a strange problem anyway
[11:17] <{slacky}> when I reboot the system
[11:17] <{slacky}> I get no outpunt on video
[11:18] <{slacky}> I have to halt it
[11:18] <LeeJunFan> I get to put kubuntu in the face of thousands in a month or so when I setup our local library with kubuntu terminal servers :)
[11:18] <{slacky}> wait for 10-20 seconds
[11:18] <{slacky}> and start up the PC again
[11:18] <manveru> LeeJunFan: using the ff-kiosk?
[11:19] <LeeJunFan> manveru: no, I'm doing it all by hand. But what is the ff-kiosk?
[11:19] <manveru> LeeJunFan: oh, guess it is different use :) - for letting people surf the web without getting access to the real stuff
[11:20] <FastElbow> does anyone using  kubuntu remote with xdmcp on a  windowsxp pc
[11:20] <manveru> {slacky}: what gfx-card?
[11:20] <LeeJunFan> manveru: I will probably setup the patron profile with kiosktool for kde to lock out some stuff, but most of the patron user will be read only anyway.
[11:21] <{slacky}> manveru: it's an ATI Radeon 9200
[11:21] <manveru> LeeJunFan: ah, k... heard it is a great tool (and there are even services providing a free virtual kde over nomachine using it)
[11:21] <{slacky}> why kmail and knode is not into KDE menu?
[11:21] <{slacky}> why kmail and knode are not into KDE menu?
[11:21] <manveru> they are integrated in kontact
[11:22] <{slacky}> ah ok
[11:22] <manveru> uhm
[11:22] <manveru> no, wait - not knode
[11:22] <manveru> or maybe? ... never used it... :)
[11:22] <{slacky}> manveru: is there a default firewall on KUbuntu?
[11:22] <manveru> {slacky}: it is in kontact
[11:23] <manveru> not the firewall of course
[11:23] <djk_> {slacky}: iptables..
[11:23] <manveru> !firestarter
[11:23] <ubotu> I heard firestarter is Ubuntu has, like every other Linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is Firestarter, which can be installed via Breezy's "Add Applications" or Synaptic
[11:23] <LeeJunFan> yeah, knode is.
[11:23] <notech> hey,again me! :) could u redirect me to a good link about demons? is this right? the 'services' running on my pc at startup?
[11:23] <notech> what can i remove? how to optimize it ?
[11:23] <notech> thank u
[11:24] <manveru> notech: this is very deep stuff :)
[11:24] <notech> ohh..
[11:24] <{slacky}> djk_: yes I know about iptables :P
 slow-motion: there is no root password, use your user password < do you mean me?
[11:24] <{slacky}> I was just asking if KUbuntu used a default firewall like SuSE does :)
[11:24] <LeeJunFan> notech: http://ubuntuguide.org/#permanentlydisableenableboot-upservices
[11:24] <{slacky}> thank you for your reply
[11:25] <manveru> {slacky}: no, it only has a favored gui to iptables i guess
[11:25] <notech> thanx will see
[11:26] <{slacky}> manveru: do you know when will be updated the repository for OpenOffice?
[11:26] <{slacky}> I've got OO 1.9.129 on KUbuntu 5.10
[11:27] <manveru> lemme check my version
[11:27] <{slacky}> OO 2.0 was released
[11:27] <manveru> yeah... i have 2.0 on my computer, but what version it is...
[11:27] <brodel> when I run OO it says 2.0
[11:27] <manveru> the 1.9 was 2.0 already as well
[11:27] <nalioth> slow-motion: no sorry, i misfired at the weirdo with the weird nick
[11:28] <djk_> {slacky}: OOo 2 would be 1.9.137 or something like that
[11:28] <nalioth> {slacky}: kubuntu doesnt need a firewall
[11:28] <manveru> 1.9.129 is mine
[11:28] <jorgen> Does any one know anything about what low dns lookup sucess in konqueror can be caused by. Its not a problem in firefox
[11:28] <{slacky}> nalioth: why kubuntu doesn't need a firewall?
[11:29] <brodel> that's weird.. it says 2.0, but on help about it says 1.9
[11:29] <djk_> {slacky}: because there aren't any ports open by default i suppose
[11:29] <djk_> brodel: it's not weird, it's normal
[11:29] <manveru> 1.9 is the dev-version for every 2.0
[11:29] <{slacky}> nalioth: I want to keep people away form the pc. Anycase I set the rules on my own I know how to do :)
[11:29] <djk_> and 1.9.137 i think it was became OOo2.0 final
[11:29] <bimberi> !ooo2
[11:29] <ubotu> Test packages for OpenOffice.org 2 are available - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html
[11:30] <bimberi> ^^^^ packages for OOo2 final :)
[11:30] <{slacky}> manveru: yes I know, so 1-2 weeks and there will be OO 2.0.0 in the KUbuntu repository?
[11:31] <brodel> still seems weird to me.
[11:31] <djk_> brodel: it's standard developing procedure..
[11:33] <manveru> every x.even is a stable version
[11:33] <manveru> so 1.9 is the unstable for 2.0
[11:33] <FastElbow> does anyone succesfull use xdmcp with kubuntu?
[11:34] <manveru> FastElbow: no... never did
[11:34] <manveru> FastElbow: do you do muay-thai? :)
[11:35] <FastElbow> nope
[11:35] <manveru> nice nick anyway
[11:35] <LeeJunFan> FastElbow: it's broken
[11:36] <LeeJunFan> FastElbow: you'll have to use RC1
[11:36] <FastElbow> thnx
[11:36] <LeeJunFan> FastElbow: np, I blew a whole saturday working on it to find out it didn't work :)
[11:36] <FastElbow> i'l wait for the nxt update
[11:37] <FastElbow> i needed a week to find out
[11:37] <FastElbow> is nx a option?
[11:38] <LeeJunFan> FastElbow: I've never used it but I've heard others who failed with xdmcp say they used that instead.
[11:38] <FastElbow>  is there a free version
[11:39] <LeeJunFan> FastElbow: freenx :)
[11:39] <FastElbow> :-D
[11:39] <liqs> is there any way to "upmix" stereosound to play it on all 5 channels + subwoofer? i'm using the terratec aureon universe
[11:40] <manveru> liqs: use kmix
[11:41] <liqs> i activated all channels, but theres still only sound coming from left and right front
[11:43] <notech> Great channel! Thank u to all
[11:44] <manveru> liqs: try alsamixer
[11:44] <FastElbow> LeeJunFan: what would you prefere, nx or xdmcp? 
[11:44] <LeeJunFan> FastElbow: I've never used nx yet, so I really don't kow. I like xdmcp, that I know.
[11:45] <FastElbow> ok
[11:45] <liqs> i'll try that tomorrow
[11:45] <liqs> thanks, you helped me alot :)
[11:46] <liqs> gn8 all
[11:47] <gibarian> Hi...is there any way for KDE to distinguish between various USB connected devices?
[11:48] <{slacky}> thank all of you my KUbuntu rocks :D
[11:49] <brodel> how can I tell where a program is stored? I am looking to install flash player for konqueror and it is asking me where it is installed.. and I don't know what to tell it.
[11:50] <djk_> brodel: locate libflashplayer.so
[11:50] <djk_> type that in a konsole..
[11:51] <djk_> eh. better without the .so
[11:52] <brodel> that's where I have the install files. It's asking for the location of the browser (I think)
[11:52] <JustinS> G'morning all (it's almost 8am here) .. I've had Kubuntu installed on this box (basic x86, w/SB Live card). My sound is nonexistant. In Kaffine I get "Can't init Audio Driver "alsasink' - trying another one" / "No useable Audio Driver found" and with XMMS it hands me either "check if something is using your sound driver" or .. it plays fine .. w/no sound .. help?
[11:53] <nalioth> brodel: use ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[11:53] <{slacky}> bye bye
[11:53] <djk_> brodel: well, it installed libflashplayer.so for mozilla and opera here, in their plugin directories..
[11:53] <_luis> why is it so hard to connect a printer. I have a Samsung ML-1740. I have a ppd file but the test page never goes through. 
[11:53] <brodel> I haven't installed it yet though. that's what I'm trying to do
[11:53] <djk_> nalioth: that'd require that he installed it for mozilla though..
[11:53] <nalioth> djk_: if it installs in ~/.mozilla/plugins EVERY gecko browser will use it
[11:54] <djk_> brodel: locate flashinstaller or whatever the name of the file was...
[11:54] <nalioth> iirc, konqueror can use it from there, also
[11:54] <djk_> nalioth: well yes, but he doesn't have to install it for mozilla when he starts the flashinstaller.
[11:55] <brodel> "WARNING: /home/brodel/flashplayer7/install_flash_player_7_linux/~./mozilla/plugins/ is not a directory."
[11:55] <nalioth> brodel: you may have to make those directories before you start
[11:55] <brodel> rgr
[11:55] <djk_> brodel: didn't you follow the instructions on the flash site?
[11:55] <nalioth> brodel: and its /home/brodel/.mozilla/plugins
[11:56] <nalioth> brodel: dots are important in their placement
[11:56] <brodel> well the flash site assumes that the install just goes..
[11:56] <brodel> mine asks questions I don't know answers to
[11:56] <djk_> for example?
[11:57] <JustinS> How do I tell alsa to use my sb card instead of the onboard card (that's disabled via bios) ..
[11:57] <brodel> http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[11:57] <djk_> doesn't the installer just ask for which browser you want to install it and if you want it installed for every person?
[11:57] <brodel> I am at 4.. then it just goes to 5 saying "after it's done.."
[11:57] <JustinS> is it alsa-config or alsa?
[11:58] <djk_> brodel: well cd to install_flash_player_7_linux then and start the installation
[11:58] <brodel> that's what I did..
[11:59] <brodel> that's how I got here
[11:59] <djk_> brodel: okay, and now type ./flashplayer-installer
[11:59] <djk_> brodel: don't forget to shut down all open browsers.
[12:00] <brodel> right.. I've done that
[12:00] <brodel> and now it's asking me for the path
[12:00] <djk_> path of?
[12:01] <slow-motion> n8
[12:01] <JustinS> Anyone know how to tell alsa to use my SB card instead of the onboard Intel card it's looking at now?
[12:01] <brodel> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/429681
[12:01] <brodel> that's what I did..
[12:02] <nalioth> brodel: it shows you did nothing
[12:03] <brodel> it shows me asking for the path
[12:03] <brodel> err
[12:03] <JustinS> you never told it .. "/home/brodel/.mozilla/plugins" . just left it at it's default .
[12:03] <brodel> it shows it asking ME for it