| kapputu | interesting, ok | 12:04 |
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| mdke | otherwise, try the laptop-testing-team mailing list | 12:05 |
| mdke | http://lists.ubuntu.com | 12:05 |
| kapputu | please don't tell me he is a bot :-), just kidding | 12:06 |
| mdke | nah, but if you're in the same timezone, you'll be ok | 12:07 |
| kapputu | ok | 12:07 |
| mdke | kapputu, check out that mailing list, and the #ubuntu-laptop channel | 12:07 |
| mdke | mjg59 is the head laptop dude | 12:07 |
| mdke | jjesse, about kubuntu, releasenotes and kquickguide on help.u.c now | 12:08 |
| kapputu | mdke, do you work on documentation? | 12:08 |
| mdke | i guess so | 12:08 |
| kapputu | so what do you document? | 12:09 |
| mdke | i seem to do more work on infrastructure than actually writing anything though | 12:09 |
| mdke | kapputu, our documents for Breezy are on help.ubuntu.com. Our work in progress projects you can find at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamProjects | 12:09 |
| mdke | for documentation, the wiki documentation is an excellent entry point - there is a lot of community contributed documentation that needs love | 12:10 |
| kapputu | community-contributed documentation? | 12:11 |
| mdke | yeah | 12:12 |
| mdke | anyone can edit the wiki, it's totally free access | 12:12 |
| mdke | so it get's a little untidy sometimes | 12:13 |
| mdke | the list of documents is at wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation | 12:13 |
| mdke | wiki.u.c/CategoryCleanup has a lot of pages that need work listed | 12:13 |
| mdke | hey Burgundavia i changed the fonts of help.u.c, do you think it is a good idea? | 12:15 |
| kapputu | is there any way to capture the knowledge dispersed in IRC | 12:26 |
| kapputu | people resolve a lot of problems here but does it make it to the docs? | 12:27 |
| mdke | i suppose people are inspired to write things down which arise frequently | 12:29 |
| mdke | recently we've been trying to think about ways of getting good feedback about what is missing from the docs | 12:29 |
| mdke | but it's difficult to get statistics from irc | 12:29 |
| mdke | only feedback from people who help often | 12:30 |
| kapputu | hmm yeah it's difficult | 12:32 |
| kapputu | but if we can have people follow a standard then it'd make it easy to parse the text | 12:32 |
| kapputu | like all problems should start with 'Problem:' else it'd be ignored | 12:33 |
| mdke | heh | 12:37 |
| mdke | can't see that working, most people don't even read the topic | 12:37 |
| mdke | kapputu, one team member wrote a spec yesterday for something feedback-related, it is v young, but feel free to comment: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamCompIdeas | 12:38 |
| mdke | we'd need to figure out a web form for that too actually :) | 12:47 |
| Burgundavia | mdke, hmm, looks good | 01:05 |
| mdke | good | 01:05 |
| mdke | i don't like big fonts | 01:05 |
| Burgundavia | mdke, https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+spec/launchpad-knowledgebase | 01:06 |
| Burgundavia | that the jbaileys idea | 01:06 |
| Burgundavia | mdke, I like the reorg too | 01:07 |
| mdke | supercool | 01:07 |
| mdke | the reorg on help.u.c? | 01:07 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 01:07 |
| mdke | ah good | 01:08 |
| mdke | i wonder if we can put some edubuntu docs up there | 01:08 |
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| Burgundavia | for a good laugh | 05:17 |
| Burgundavia | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89926 | 05:17 |
| LaserJock | hmm, interesting | 05:23 |
| LaserJock | 3 & 7 are the only ones I would be interested in | 05:24 |
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| Madpilot | hi all | 06:23 |
| Burgundavia | salut Madpilot | 06:29 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot, about to head to C's, but are you interested in helping the vlug website? | 06:29 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia: what does it need? | 06:31 |
| Burgundavia | a compete redesign? | 06:32 |
| Madpilot | just had a look, and yeah, it could use some love | 06:32 |
| Burgundavia | do you want to meet sometime this week and talk about it? | 06:32 |
| Madpilot | sure | 06:32 |
| Madpilot | here, or is there a VLUG meeting this coming week? | 06:33 |
| Burgundavia | I just emailed dad about going to dinner there sometime this week | 06:33 |
| Burgundavia | vlug was last week, missed it | 06:33 |
| Burgundavia | your place would be good | 06:33 |
| Madpilot | Tuesday night? | 06:33 |
| Burgundavia | sure | 06:33 |
| Madpilot | I'm busy Weds. & Thurs. night | 06:33 |
| Burgundavia | ah | 06:33 |
| Madpilot | cool - I'm at work until 6 Tues. night, but come by anytime after 6:30 | 06:34 |
| Burgundavia | shall I ping the vlug discuss list to ask if anyone wants to come and join the redesign discussion? | 06:34 |
| Madpilot | sure | 06:34 |
| Madpilot | I should actually join VLUG and get on that list... | 06:34 |
| Madpilot | the redesign of Andrea's website went live this afternoon | 06:35 |
| Burgundavia | cool | 06:37 |
| Burgundavia | holy crap most of the info on the website in ancient | 06:38 |
| Madpilot | using a totally new install of XP was... interesting... | 06:38 |
| Burgundavia | s/in.is | 06:38 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot, have they already bought the new machine | 06:38 |
| Burgundavia | ? | 06:38 |
| Madpilot | yes | 06:38 |
| Burgundavia | grr | 06:38 |
| Burgundavia | our parents baffle me | 06:38 |
| Madpilot | it's theoretically more powerful than either of ours - except for half the RAM - but it crawls w/ XP Home... | 06:38 |
| Burgundavia | ouch | 06:39 |
| Burgundavia | wonder if Discovery will take it back | 06:39 |
| Madpilot | not sure who they got it from, actually | 06:39 |
| Burgundavia | why???, for love of god | 06:39 |
| Madpilot | I'd forgotten how much crap you have to install to make a Windows machine usable... a real browser, Photoshop, AVG, anti-spyware, etc etc | 06:40 |
| Madpilot | OpenOffice.org came pre-installed | 06:40 |
| Burgundavia | I had heard that some local computer stores are handing out OO.o now | 06:40 |
| Madpilot | and I customized the UI of Opera 8.5 into a non-threatening-to-Andrea mode, and imported her old IE favourite | 06:40 |
| Burgundavia | oh geez | 06:41 |
| Burgundavia | any, I have to catch a bus to go to C's | 06:41 |
| Madpilot | old IE favourites, I mean - bookmarks | 06:41 |
| Burgundavia | talk to you later | 06:41 |
| Madpilot | later | 06:41 |
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| bhuvan | quick question on moin | 07:57 |
| bhuvan | how can we embed comment in our moin page ? | 07:57 |
| Madpilot | bhuvan: with #, I think | 07:57 |
| Madpilot | let me check | 07:57 |
| bhuvan | ok, please let me check :) | 07:57 |
| robitaille | yes. just look at the code of the top page in the wiki. The first few lines start with #s | 07:58 |
| Madpilot | it's two ##, I think | 07:59 |
| Madpilot | ## This is a moin comment | 07:59 |
| bhuvan | Madpilot: ## works, thankx | 08:00 |
| Madpilot | np | 08:00 |
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| bhuvan | can someone update next docteam meeting details in udp launchpad calander ? | 08:13 |
| robitaille | bhuvan, I suspect only Burgundavia or Jerome can update it since they are the 2 launchpad admin. | 08:17 |
| robitaille | I usually update the calendar on the Fridge and the topic in #ubuntu-meeting with the date/time of the meetings | 08:18 |
| bhuvan | ok | 08:18 |
| bhuvan | i'll assign it to them | 08:18 |
| robitaille | the Launchpad calendar is great, but it seems very underutilized by the ubuntu community. | 08:21 |
| robitaille | I still have to find a group using it to post their meetings | 08:21 |
| highvolt1ge | robitaille: i use it. i even have my birthday logged in there. | 08:21 |
| robitaille | yes. And I also want to start using it. But groups don't seem to add anything to them. And that it's strength when you can subcribe to calendar from various groups. | 08:23 |
| robitaille | s/groups/teams | 08:23 |
| robitaille | that's a very small team :) https://launchpad.net/people/debiandevelopers | 08:24 |
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| mdke | did anyone see the meeting agenda item posted by some guy? | 09:06 |
| mdke | he hasn't posted to the mailing list | 09:06 |
| mdke | bhuvan, ping? | 09:07 |
| Madpilot | mdke: where? the wiki? | 09:07 |
| mdke | yes | 09:07 |
| Madpilot | mdke: the Problem Analyzer thing? | 09:08 |
| mdke | that's it | 09:09 |
| mdke | it seems to me that he's suggested we write the documents we've already written | 09:09 |
| Madpilot | huh | 09:10 |
| mdke | oh great, someone has deleted ItalianRedirect | 09:11 |
| mdke | the page which 100 pages redirect to | 09:11 |
| Madpilot | I'll look for that XP app he mentioned later this week, when I'll be forced to use my stepmother's XP machine for a while ;) | 09:11 |
| mdke | aha | 09:13 |
| mdke | i've replied anyhow, encouraging him to post to the ML | 09:13 |
| Madpilot | saw that | 09:13 |
| Madpilot | gah... just realized that now that we're off Daylight Savings Time, 1400Z = 0600 Local - ick! | 09:14 |
| mdke | whoosh | 09:15 |
| Madpilot | being at UTC -8 bites sometimes... | 09:16 |
| bhuvan | mdke: yes | 09:17 |
| mdke | bhuvan, the quicktour is not obsolete, it's a marketing doc, i think you may have got things a bit confused there | 09:18 |
| mdke | i replied on the wiki page | 09:19 |
| bhuvan | ok | 09:19 |
| bhuvan | i meant, we're maintaining a html version. if we should, we can maintain a xml version ? | 09:19 |
| Madpilot | bhuvan: QuickTour was/is meant to be more portable | 09:20 |
| bhuvan | Madpilot, ok. but, imho, we if we maintain it in xml version, we can make it easily portable | 09:21 |
| bhuvan | mdke, do you want me to remove this item from docteammeetingagenda ? | 09:21 |
| mdke | you could make it a bit clearer I think | 09:21 |
| bhuvan | ok | 09:21 |
| bhuvan | i'll do that | 09:22 |
| mdke | bhuvan, one more request. Can you send emails to the list, rather than to me in the To: field and the list in Cc: ? | 09:22 |
| mdke | that can be easily achieved if you use evolution by using "Reply to list" (ctrl L) | 09:22 |
| bhuvan | generally, i do 'reply-all'. i'll correct it | 09:22 |
| mdke | if your mailer doesn't have that, don't worry! | 09:22 |
| bhuvan | np, it's trivial. i'll correct it. pardon me, if it has troubled you! | 09:23 |
| mdke | thanks for the patches by the way | 09:23 |
| mdke | you're doing some good work | 09:23 |
| bhuvan | hmm, thankx! | 09:24 |
| mdke | got to run | 09:24 |
| Madpilot | bhuvan: portable in the 'viewable w/o using Yelp' sense - putting it up on a website, that sort of thing | 09:24 |
| bhuvan | Madpilot, you are correct. but, if we maintain a xml version with xslt template, we can convert it to html/pdf and it'll be portable to website as you wish | 09:25 |
| bhuvan | imo, thats how we maintain most of our other documents | 09:25 |
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| jsgotangco | hello | 03:45 |
| highvoltage | hello | 03:46 |
| jsgotangco | hey highvoltage how's things? | 03:46 |
| highvoltage | things are very good today. | 03:48 |
| highvoltage | monday's are usually bad, today is a big exception. | 03:49 |
| highvoltage | i think people are just getting in better and better moods as summer is approaching. | 03:49 |
| jsgotangco | that's nice things have been busy on my side, i might go to seoul in 2 weeks for a linux desktop conference | 03:53 |
| highvoltage | oooh. sounds nice. | 03:55 |
| highvoltage | i never liked traveling. but lately i've started enjoying it. | 03:56 |
| jjesse | grin winter is approaching here :) | 03:58 |
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| === highvoltage will of course be in his room doing ubuntu stuff :) | ||
| jjesse | for those interested Riddell is packaging KDE 3.5 RC for Kubuntu as we speak | 03:59 |
| jsgotangco | ahhh | 03:59 |
| jsgotangco | wow | 03:59 |
| jsgotangco | we'll see it in dapper-updates? | 03:59 |
| jjesse | should | 03:59 |
| jsgotangco | i'll upgrade one box to dapper later then | 03:59 |
| jjesse | i didn't know there was a dapper build out there, can i just change sources to dapper instead of breazy? | 03:59 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 03:59 |
| jsgotangco | dapper just opened up a few weeks ago | 04:00 |
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| jsgotangco | good night | 04:21 |
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| jjesse | any krazy kubuntu people out there, kde 3.5 release kanidate 1 has been release for breezy http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35rc1.php | 06:57 |
| poningru | I had a question | 06:59 |
| poningru | why dont we have some sort of animated presentation of ubuntu when people login for the first time | 07:00 |
| poningru | kinda like what windows has | 07:00 |
| jjesse | that's a good question :) | 07:11 |
| poningru | hmm what could it be done in? | 07:21 |
| poningru | I mean svg would be a good idea right? | 07:21 |
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| dartmoordog | Trying to install Ubuntu on G3 powerbook ............ probs ........ anyone know about mac installs | 09:25 |
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| mdke | evening all | 09:27 |
| jjesse | evening mdke | 09:29 |
| mdke | hi :) | 09:30 |
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| SteveMyers | mdke | 10:41 |
| SteveMyers | got a sec? | 10:41 |
| mdke | sure | 10:42 |
| SteveMyers | awesome | 10:42 |
| SteveMyers | check pm | 10:42 |
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