[12:55] <codepoet> ok
[12:55] <codepoet> anybody here first?
[02:23] <zul> hey
[02:27] <DevinT> woah
[02:27] <DevinT> somebody's here
[02:27] <DevinT> ok
[02:27] <DevinT> well
[02:28] <DevinT> i know you and 3 other people are on the kernel team from launchpad, correct?
[02:35] <zul> yeah
[02:36] <DevinT> well, are you familiar with the acx100 driver?
[02:36] <zul> not really..
[02:37] <zul> whats the problem
[02:38] <DevinT> well
[02:38] <DevinT> i was wondering how i could become some sort of psuedo module maintainer for that
[02:39] <DevinT> i'm interested in helping out with the ubuntu kernel, and i was thinking that would be a great place to start, especially as it needs a lot of work
[02:43] <zul> DevinT: you might want to talk to BenC 
[02:43] <DevinT> ok
[02:44] <zul> but all you really do is pull the git tree, make patches and push
[02:44] <BenC> yeah, read the wiki in the channel topic
[02:50] <DevinT> alright
[02:51] <makx> BenC: davej had some comments about enabled lapic.
[02:51] <makx> maybe you imported that setting from Debian as we have this also set.
[02:51] <makx> any comment on the matter.
[02:51] <makx> ?
[02:53] <makx> (i was quite happy for his acpi cut off pointer, did turn that off too in current tree, all the old boxes i've seen work with acpi=force)
[02:54] <DevinT> how lame haha
[02:55] <mjg59> makx: Enabled lapic ought to work fine now
[02:55] <DevinT> why 0.99.9abcdefg, just go to 1.0 already
[02:55] <DevinT> silly Linus
[02:55] <makx> mjg99: vanilla?
[02:55] <mjg59> makx: As far as I know, yes
[02:55] <mjg59> What's the issue?
[02:57] <makx> well i need to find time and see if some boot failures are corelated too UP_APIC
[02:57] <makx> mjg59: did you read latest davej blog?
[02:59] <makx> (not that i want to throw any flames, more interested in facts :)
[03:00] <mjg59> makx: Enabling local apic in the kernel used to enable it on boot regardless of what the BIOS did
[03:00] <mjg59> That changed in 2.6.10 or so - now the kernel only enables it if the BIOS has already enabled it
[03:00] <mjg59> That seemed to fix all the problems we saw
[03:00] <mjg59> Let me see if I can track down when that changed
[03:00] <makx> hmm definitely before git time. :)
[03:01] <BenC> makx: Haven't looked into it
[03:01] <zul> BenC: its just a rant
[03:01] <makx> zul: naah it had also nice info for me.:)
[03:03] <BenC> I need to setup a test partition on my g5
[03:10] <mjg59> makx: We've had no reported problems with enabling UP APIC
[03:50] <zul> makx: heh...im going to start a blog to respond
[03:51] <makx> zul: ok cool, but be nice ;)
[04:11] <fabbione>   YES! I know there are no i386 SMP packages. The 686 and k7 packages are
[04:11] <fabbione>      SMP enabled. In fact, they are also UP enabled "WHAT!?!? HUH!?!". Yes, SMP
[04:11] <fabbione>      on i386 now has the added benefit of killing lock ops dynamically on boot.
[04:11] <fabbione>      This is still in testing phase. I also need to fix a few things to get it
[04:11] <fabbione>      working for modules.
[04:11] <mjg59> EAT YOUR CRACK
[04:15] <fabbione> mjg59: i assume that's too much even for you
[04:15] <mjg59> Haha
[04:15] <mjg59> Linus has actually been talking about it - he seems to think it's kind of cool
[04:17] <fabbione> that patch is old as helll
[04:17] <fabbione> i think Ben did port it from 2.4 or something
[04:18] <fabbione> so i assume Linus is looking into our tree
[04:24] <dilinger> fabbione: hope there's a provides for the smp flavours :)
[04:25] <dilinger> or dummy packages or something
[04:25] <fabbione> dilinger: there is no need to do that in the kernel package
[04:25] <fabbione> we can handle that in linux-meta
[04:25] <dilinger> no?linux-image-686-smp
[04:26] <dilinger> that's what i've got installed; that will need to be sure to pick up -686 instead
[04:26] <fabbione> yeah
[04:26] <fabbione> linux-image-686-smp comes from linux-meta
[04:26] <fabbione> not from linux-source
[04:26] <dilinger> ok
[04:26] <fabbione> that one will pick up the right kernel
[06:05] <BenC> Linux colorless 2.6.15-2-powerpc #4 Mon Nov 14 10:58:05 EST 2005 ppc GNU/Linux
[06:06] <BenC> g4 booted flawlessly with new kernel
[06:07] <fabbione> BenC: cool
[06:07] <fabbione> so it did actually build
[06:07] <fabbione> or is it with a local version of kernel-package
[06:07] <fabbione> ?
[06:08] <fabbione> because i need a d-i with .15 to be able to install my powerbook
[06:08] <BenC> local mods to k-p
[06:08] <fabbione> or backport some git stuff to .12
[06:08] <fabbione> ok
[06:08] <BenC> we have to use ARCH=powerpc for ppc32
[06:09] <BenC> 15-1 wont work, I had to make a few fixes to .config for ppc32
[06:09] <fabbione> BenC: ok
[06:10] <fabbione> i need to ask benh if the ID changes have made linus tree
[06:10] <BenC> it's all in git if you want to do a build though
[06:10] <BenC> and I can dpkg-repack my kernel-package
[06:10] <BenC> is your powerbook G5?
[06:10] <fabbione> the problem is that to build d-i you need stuff in the archive, otherwise it's a bunch of hacks
[06:10] <fabbione> nope.. g4
[06:11] <fabbione> there are no powerbook g5 yet
[06:11] <fabbione> i am off for dinner
[06:11] <fabbione> bbl
[06:26] <BenC> later
[06:28] <dilinger> hm
[06:29] <dilinger> http://www.livejournal.com/users/kernelslacker/30664.html
[06:31] <zul_> dilinger: yeah saw it this morning
[06:39] <BenC> people getting mad at us is probably a good thing in that sense :)
[06:39] <BenC> we do have about half a dozen patches that need to be pushed upstream though
[06:42] <dilinger> yea
[06:42] <BenC> good thing is that a whole lot of patches got rm'd with 2.6.15
[06:42] <dilinger> now that i'm not doing debian kernel stuff anymore, i'm thinking i should start going through vendor kernels and pushing stuff upstream (maybe starting another kernel tree w/ those fixes)
[06:42] <BenC> mostly acpi of course
[06:43] <BenC> they are easy to find in our git tree
[06:43] <dilinger> yep
[06:43] <BenC> search git-log for "UpstreamStatus: Unsubmitted"
[06:56] <fabbione> clearly who did that review isn't aware that 90% of the patches we pull are from other upstreams
[06:56] <fabbione> specially the ACPI ones
[06:56] <fabbione> BenC: btw.. speaking of patches.. the megaraid split is my work
[06:57] <fabbione> something i did almost for fun
[06:57] <BenC> ah, so you lay claim to that code? :)
[06:57] <fabbione> code... well.. it's a patch...
[06:57] <fabbione> it does nothing fancy :)
[06:57] <BenC> is it needed?
[06:57] <fabbione> well yes
[06:58] <fabbione> some controllers are supported only by the old driver
[06:58] <fabbione> and viceversa
[06:58] <fabbione> so the patch does split per PCI ID's
[06:58] <fabbione> to support the largest amount of cards
[06:58] <fabbione> with no overlap between the two
[06:58] <fabbione> so they should be even able to load in parallel
[06:58] <BenC> to make it correct, I should probably make it so that it enables/disables the extra PCI id's depending on whether the new module is compiled
[06:59] <fabbione> hmmm that's an option
[07:01] <BenC> this new kernel doesn't seem as troublesome as I was expecting, but I don't have the varied hardware like our users do
[07:01] <BenC> atleast I can say "works for me" though :)
[07:01] <fabbione> BenC: i will be able to start testing on 8 boxes tomorrow
[07:01] <fabbione> modulo my fever going away
[07:01] <BenC> you should get some rest dude
[07:02] <fabbione> i have been in bed all day
[07:02] <fabbione> just too restless to stay there longer
[07:02] <fabbione> i needed a break :)
[07:04] <BenC> yeah, I can't just lay around all day either
[07:05] <BenC> need to restart X
[07:53] <zul_> hey...we both worked on that patch fabbione 
[07:56] <fabbione> zul_: we did???
[07:56] <fabbione> probably
[07:58] <zul_> yeah..
[07:58] <zul_> the megaraid one if you are talking about
[07:58] <fabbione> yeah that one
[07:58] <zul_> i started it, you finished it :)
[07:59] <fabbione> right
[08:01] <fabbione> BenC: ^^^now you can blame zul for that patch :)
[08:03] <zul_> damn it
[08:04] <zul_> is this because of davej's blog?
[08:05] <fabbione> no.. you want to share credits and it's of course fine by me.. you also share the blames :P
[08:06] <zul_> nah i dont want blame i just want a share of the credit..you can have all of the blame ;)
[08:06] <fabbione> ehhe
[08:06] <fabbione> anyway i am out of here
[08:06] <fabbione> time to get more rest
[08:07] <zul_> toodles