[02:28] <doko_> Riddell: hmm, I thought we were not using -fvisibility? the patch is not upstream, and even delayed for 4.1
[02:30] <Riddell> well I thought I'd give the -fvisibility thing a shot, but I can always turn it off
[02:31] <doko_> give it a shot in a rebuild which doesn't hit the archives?
[02:31] <Riddell> not yet
[02:31] <Riddell> waiting on the c++ transition stuff
[02:46] <Riddell> doko_: any idea why subversion is failing to build?  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/428529
[02:47] <Riddell> I changed the build-dep from libdb4.2 to libdb4.3
[02:47] <Riddell> but that doesn't seem to be the issue
[02:59] <doko_> Riddell: didn't look I have here a 1.3.0 build, which builds ok for me
[03:00] <Riddell> doko_: any plans to upload that?
[03:00] <Riddell> I need a subversion using libdb4.3 for kdesdk
[03:00] <doko_> Riddell: did you read 19664? It's a can of worms ... requires more than the visibility patch to the headers
[03:01] <doko_> hmm, and what about upgrading subversion databases? is it needed?
[03:02] <Riddell> subversion databases?
[03:03] <Riddell> doko_: I've not read 19664 closely, gcc hacking is more your area than mine, if it's a bother then I'll just not use visibility
[03:08] <doko_> from the report:
[03:08] <doko_> I agree Geoff, we should hold off on this for 4.1, and try to hit 4.2. If
[03:08] <doko_> things get solid sooner, maybe this can be reconsidered. Adding this patch to
[03:08] <doko_> 4.0.x is out of the question, it has the potential to change too many things.
[03:11] <Riddell> aw man, 4.2.  we'll never get visibility in :(
[08:25] <doko> fabbione: regarding the libstdc++ allocator change: I did ask lamont to shutdown the hppa buildd tomorrow at 22:00 UTC, could you do the same for sparc and/or only build the gcc-4.0 and gcc-3.4 packages?
[08:25] <fabbione> doko: will do
[08:26] <doko> fabbione: do you know when infinity is back?
[08:28] <fabbione> doko: i think tomorrow
[08:28] <fabbione> he had today off
[08:28] <fabbione> and i am going to crash really soon
[08:29] <doko> ok, it's enough if he's online tomorrow
[08:29] <fabbione> doko: the sparc buildd is surely lagging behind
[08:29] <fabbione> given that i didn't turn on my pc for 2 days
[08:30] <fabbione> what's the watermark for this allocator change
[08:30] <fabbione> ?
[08:30] <fabbione> what do i need to build before gcc?
[08:30] <doko> http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/11/msg00097.html
[08:30] <doko> nothing before gcc
[08:30] <fabbione> ok
[03:19] <jbailey> doko: Eh, I see that there's a CVS snap of binutils.  Any idea if that includes the sparc64 TLS stuff?  I think it should.
[03:20] <doko> jbailey: no, forgot about that one. it's just the merge
[03:23] <jbailey> I suspect it's in there anyway.
[03:23] <jbailey> I'll play with it a bit later.