[12:00] <alpha> bob2, what would have caused that, old server list?
[12:00] <bob2> totem + firefox's craposity is legendary
[12:00] <dreadnought> give me the link to the pasten=bin
[12:00] <bob2> dreadnought: /topic
[12:00] <omeg> Actually, I suspect that Firefox is at fault.
[12:00] <bob2> urbanfox|away: sure the cd is ok?
[12:00] <Kovecses> Xyc0, you "would" worry?
[12:00] <bob2> alpha: yes
[12:00] <gnomefreak> type /topic dreadnought its in there
[12:00] <dreadnought> ubotu: tell me about pastebin
[12:00] <bob2> switchcat: pxe is all there is, afaik
[12:00] <bob2> szaz: eh?
[12:00] <bob2> szaz: celementree is in ubuntu, why are you compiling it?
[12:01] <gnomefreak> !tell dreadnought  about pastebin
[12:01] <misfit_toy> heh "craposity"
[12:01] <Xyc0> Kovecses: wouldn't he, sorry
[12:01] <urbanfox|away> bob2> fairly sure... going to the log console says it's at "Reading all physical volumes. This may take a whie..."
[12:01] <szaz> bob2: I have no idea - it is installed (according to synaptic)
[12:01] <Xyc0> Kovecses: made you panic for a bit did i?
[12:01] <urbanfox|away> but the physical volumes are all idle :(
[12:01] <Kovecses> Xyc0, yeah im not to concerned
[12:01] <dreadnought> thnx
[12:01] <gnomefreak> im sure ubotu doesnt know the me command
[12:01] <bob2> szaz: oh, this is the script? sorry
[12:01] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:01] <dreadnought> ok go to it and ill show u
[12:01] <bob2> szaz: that's crack
[12:01] <Xyc0> Kovecses: are you suing sata drives?
[12:01] <bob2> urbanfox|away: try the 'verify cd' stage, boot with the option 'expert'
[12:01] <Kovecses> Xyc0, yup
[12:01] <gnomefreak> put the link after you submit it in here
[12:01] <switchcat> bob2 - I have a bootable ubuntu install cd, but I was wondering if there was any way for me to tell the cd to get the files from the same place that a PXE network install would get it's files instead of getting the files from the cd romwhich seems to be continuing to fail
[12:01] <szaz> bob2: i run the following command
[12:01] <d_pelaez> Hello everyone
[12:02] <szaz> bob2: sudo python2.4 ez_setup.py -f http://www.turbogears.org/download/index.html --script-dir /usr/local/bin TurboGears
[12:02] <dreadnought> see it now?
[12:02] <d_pelaez> I have a weird problem in my 5.10 ubuntu
[12:02] <d_pelaez> anyone can help
[12:02] <Kovecses> what is it
[12:02] <Xyc0> Kovecses: it might have something to do with that, my amd64 box's hd light doesnt turn off either
[12:02] <Kovecses> first
[12:02] <Xyc0> d_pelaez: dont ask to ask buddy, just shoot away
[12:02] <bob2> szaz: I ran 'sudo python ez_setup.py -f http://www.turbogears.org/download/index.html --ignore-conflicts-at-my-risk --script-dir ~/turbo TurboGears'
[12:02] <Kovecses> Xyc0, it doesnt do it with debian sarge
[12:02] <bob2> szaz: according to my shell history
[12:02] <bob2> also, all praise zsh
[12:02] <szaz> bob2: ok - I'll give that a go
[12:03] <bob2> switchcat: don't think so
[12:03] <Xyc0> Kovecses: *shrugs*
[12:03] <bob2> switchcat: can't you just pxe boot it?
[12:03] <Kovecses> oh well
[12:03] <d_pelaez> when i try to open any app in the System -> Administration menu, it prompts me to type a password, it does not say it's the root password. However i've typed root passwd and sometime it does not say the pass is wrong, but it keep on loading the program and no program is openes, anyone can help me please?
[12:03] <Xyc0> Kovecses: like did you boot into it recently?
[12:03] <dreadnought> can anyone help my question is in the pastebin?
[12:03] <Kovecses> Xyc0, yup today
[12:03] <Agrajag> d_pelaez: put in your user's password
[12:03] <bob2> d_pelaez: it's asking for your password
[12:03] <gnomefreak> dreadnought,  we need the link to it
[12:03] <switchcat> bob2 - it seems as if, although my bios has Wake On Lan -- it doesnt seem to have a boot from lan option and I can't currently write a floppy disk to make a pxe boot disk
[12:03] <bob2> d_pelaez: please don't enable rhe root account
[12:04] <Xyc0> d_pelaez: what password did you give when you installed ubuntu?
[12:04] <dreadnought> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4505
[12:04] <Kovecses> bob2, sometimes you have too....
[12:04] <szaz> bob2: no joy - same errors as far as I can tell
[12:04] <dreadnought> there
[12:04] <dseomn> d_pelaez: DO NOT answer Xyc0
[12:04] <bob2> switchcat: ah, dang
[12:04] <misfit_toy> lol
[12:04] <dreadnought> see it
[12:04] <Xyc0> d_pelaez: yea, i didn really need to know it, just wanted you to use it...
[12:04] <bob2> switchcat: I can't think aof anything aside fro mtrying to write another cd, sorry
[12:04] <Kovecses> bob2, sudo doesnt work for everything
[12:04] <bob2> Kovecses: e.g.?
[12:04] <Kovecses> bob2, echo commands
[12:04] <gnomefreak> dreadnought, those are instructions
[12:05] <bob2> Kovecses: and I mean it in the "if you have to ask about how to use gnome, you shouldn't be enable it", sense
[12:05] <switchcat> bob2 - I've written about 5 different cds from two different downloads
[12:05] <dreadnought> i no help me with them
[12:05] <bob2> Kovecses: eh? echo foo | sudo tee /filename/
[12:05] <switchcat> they all fail at different places in the process
[12:05] <dreadnought> i dont know the 2nd step
[12:05] <omeg> Is there any way I can set my clock to be 24-H rather than 12-H?
[12:05] <switchcat> I wonder if I could find a PXE boot CD-rom image
[12:05] <bob2> misfit_toy: latin
[12:05] <El_Che> misfit_toy: ex gratia
[12:05] <gnomefreak> dreadnought, first off what are you trying to do install java runtime or sdk?
[12:05] <Agrajag> misfit_toy: exempli gratia or something like that
[12:05] <Xenguy> misfit_toy: it's latin, that's all I know
[12:05] <dreadnought> theyre also at http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#enable
[12:05] <Xyc0> switchcat: try using the torrent to download, never had those fail
[12:05] <misfit_toy> El_Che, thx
[12:05] <dreadnought> yes JRE
[12:05] <dreadnought> werent u just here
[12:05] <switchcat> xyc0  - I did. it did.
[12:05] <Kovecses> bob2, hmm ... let me try
[12:05] <bob2> misfit_toy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.g. for details
[12:06] <dreadnought> gnomefreak can u go to ur private challel please
[12:06] <bob2> dreadnought: you still haven't told us what the issue is
[12:06] <bob2> dreadnought: just do what it said
[12:06] <Kovecses> ok so just add multivers to the end of universe
[12:06] <misfit_toy> bob2, I know I could look it up, but I like to hear it from strangers in a chat room better, ;p
[12:06] <mebaran151> I am having trouble getting ssh to work
[12:06] <dreadnought> i dont understand it
[12:06] <gnomefreak> dreadnought, jre isnt the developers java its just a plug in and no ty i dont do private
[12:06] <bob2> dreadnought: which part don't you understand?
[12:06] <bob2> misfit_toy: haha
[12:06] <bob2> mebaran151: and the trouble is...?
[12:07] <Xyc0> misfit_toy: lazy are we?
[12:07] <bob2> Kovecses: yes
[12:07] <dreadnought> i need the plugin for something
[12:07] <mebaran151> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[12:07] <bob2> dreadnought: stop
[12:07] <misfit_toy> Xyc0, no, just curious, it helps to point out who knows what here
[12:07] <mebaran151> There is the trouble^
[12:07] <dreadnought> i get the green puzzle piece
[12:07] <dreadnought> stop what?
[12:07] <bob2> dreadnought: which line confuses you?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> i have never seen those instructions before
[12:07] <bob2> dreadnought: then I'll ask you which part of that line confuses you
[12:07] <Xyc0> misfit_toy: do you know what OK stands for?
[12:07] <bob2> dreadnought: then we'll have your solution
[12:07] <dreadnought> bob2:3
[12:07] <dreadnought> how do i do that
[12:07] <bob2> dreadnought: dude
[12:07] <Kovecses> are there jre packages or should i use java-package?
[12:07] <Corin> bob2, thanks for your help, got it sorted
[12:07] <Corin> :D
[12:07] <misfit_toy> Xyc0, for instance if I asked "who remembers Jethro Tull", I could find a lot of interesting things about people, depending on the answers.
[12:08] <bob2> dreadnought: it is telling you the commands to run
[12:08] <misfit_toy> Xyc0, no I don't
[12:08] <dreadnought> what its confuzing for a noob
[12:08] <bob2> dreadnought: lines beginning with # are comments
[12:08] <bob2> dreadnought: you're making it impossible for anyone to help you
[12:08] <Agrajag> Kovecses: use java-package
[12:08] <Kovecses> w32codecs is not in multiverse?
[12:08] <bob2> dreadnought: tell us which part of the line confuses you
[12:08] <bob2> Kovecses: yes
[12:08] <Kovecses> it is
[12:08] <bob2> Kovecses: no one has permission to distribute it, at all
[12:08] <d_pelaez> please
[12:08] <omeg> Sorry for asking this again, but is there any way I can set my system clock to 24-H?
[12:08] <d_pelaez> anyone helping?
[12:08] <bob2> Kovecses: /msg ubotu w32codecs
[12:08] <Kovecses> thanks
[12:08] <bob2> omeg: you mean on the gnome panel?
[12:08] <dreadnought> this part in line 3       create a symbolic link to the JRE ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so file
[12:09] <bob2> dreadnought: that is a comment
[12:09] <bob2> dreadnought: the command on the next line does that
[12:09] <omeg> The clock I see on the top-right of my screen.
[12:09] <dreadnought> wat u mean i dont have to do it
[12:09] <bob2> dreadnought: the only possible thing that could be confusing is if you don't know where those dirs are
[12:09] <Xyc0> misfit_toy: it meant oll korrect for a time, then one of our presidents made it popular by his nickname ol' kanoe
[12:09] <bob2> omeg: right click, preferences
[12:09] <cyphase> which port does h323 use again?
[12:09] <dreadnought> ok lets start from the start of it
[12:09] <misfit_toy> Xyc0, hmmm, Tyler?
[12:10] <bob2> Corin: great
[12:10] <Kovecses> bob2, thanks.... its been a while since ive been on ubuntu
[12:10] <bob2> cyphase: doesn't it use RTP?
[12:10] <omeg> Ohh, I see
[12:10] <omeg> Thanks
[12:10] <Xyc0> misfit_toy: either him or jackson or polke, not sure
[12:10] <Corin> bob2, do you know much about webmin?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> <<<got java the bad way
[12:10] <dreadnought> theyre in /home/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins correct
[12:10] <bob2> Corin: I have not used it since 2001 or so
[12:10] <bob2> dreadnought: not if you installed mozilla from the ubuntu package
[12:10] <Xyc0> ok gnite all, i have labs to finish
[12:10] <gnomefreak> dreadnought, we dont know only you would know that
[12:10] <Kovecses> java-package is awesome
[12:10] <Agrajag> why would you have a /home/usr/lib?
[12:11] <szaz> bob2: I cannot think of anything that might cause a problem. cElementTree is installed, python 2.4 is installed, the dev package is installed
[12:11] <Kovecses> misfit_toy, yup
[12:11] <szaz> bob2: Do you have any ideas?
[12:11] <dreadnought> it was just on here when i put ubuntu on here
[12:11] <Kovecses> misfit_toy, ive been bouncing around distros
[12:11] <Corin> bob2, could you possibly spend another 7 mins helping me with that?
[12:11] <dreadnought> join #bob2
[12:11] <Corin> (starting in about 10 mins)
[12:11] <dreadnought> heeh
[12:11] <gnomefreak> bob2 is a room?
[12:11] <misfit_toy> Kovecses, a fun thing to do, but eventually you have to stick with three, heheh
[12:11] <omeg> Wow, Ubuntu supports my laptop's volume keys
[12:12] <omeg> Great job
[12:12] <bob2> szaz: no, sorry; I don't know why it's installing it's own celementree, either, that's just weird
[12:12] <gnomefreak> congrats omeg
[12:12] <bob2> hah, awesome
[12:12] <jose> hI!!!!!!
[12:12] <lightbright> is breezy stable?
[12:12] <misfit_toy> jose, such enthusiasm!
[12:12] <gnomefreak> hi
[12:12] <Agrajag> yes
[12:12] <dreadnought> omg will some help me and stay with it
[12:12] <gnomefreak> lightbright, yes very
[12:12] <bob2> dreadnought: stop it
[12:12] <omeg> Yeah, that is hardcore.
[12:12] <lightbright> gnomefreak: greeat
[12:12] <adriyel> it still hasn't crashed.
[12:12] <bob2> dreadnought: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[12:12] <dreadnought> well no one will
[12:12] <bob2> dreadnought: that is your plugin dir
[12:12] <omeg> I wonder if it will sleep if I close the lid...
[12:13] <bob2> dreadnought: because you're really fucking annoying to help
[12:13] <szaz> bob2: ok - cheers for your help - you're a credit to the ubuntu community
[12:13] <bob2> dreadnought: now focus
[12:13] <dreadnought> ok change it in terminal to that correct
[12:13] <gnomefreak> lightbright,  ive been using it since colony 3 and it ahsnt crashed yet
[12:13] <bob2> szaz: hah, thanks
[12:13] <brownie17> gnomefreak, i don't know about very, everyone keeps telling me how great it is, but i was having less bugs in hoary
[12:13] <szaz> bob2: I'm off to bug the turbogears channel!
[12:13] <bob2> dreadnought: cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[12:13] <bob2> szaz: hah, good luck!
[12:13] <adriyel> brownie17, bugs are a different issue than stability...
[12:13] <dreadnought> stupid noobochitus
[12:13] <omeg> Yes, it sleeps upon closing the lid.
[12:13] <gnomefreak> brownie17, thats the thing about linux it runs different on every pc
[12:13] <adriyel> for all intents and purposes anyways
[12:13] <nalioth> brownie17: i just upgraded my last box to breezy and it works better than hoary
[12:13] <dreadnought> in root right
[12:14] <omeg> I find it too bad that the old wallpapers from previous Ubuntu releases are somehow no longer available, though.
[12:14] <brownie17> nalioth, yeah, i guess i am just a weirdo
[12:14] <bob2> Corin: if you're going to ask me a question, you need to do so
[12:14] <misfit_toy> omeg, look for them in google cache
[12:14] <Kovecses> gnome-look has tons of cool ubuntu stuff
[12:14] <blackhat> hi i am running an amd64 and i just setup a 32bit chroot to run i386 programs on and I am having a problem with apt-get
[12:14] <dreadnought> bob2 in root correct?
[12:14] <bob2> Corin: burning your question karma on "can you help me" is suboptimal ;)
[12:14] <bob2> dreadnought: no
[12:14] <blackhat> dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `postdrop' in statusoverride file
[12:14] <blackhat> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[12:14] <nalioth> brownie17: no, i'm the weirdo here
[12:14] <suix> hi!!!
[12:14] <gnomefreak> blackhat,  please use pastebin to paste
[12:15] <Corin> bob2, basically, i installed webmin, but dont know how to use it
[12:15] <blackhat> It was only two lines.
[12:15] <misfit_toy> suix, another enthusiastic user!
[12:15] <gnomefreak> root has nothing to do with cd command
[12:15] <bob2> omeg: they should still be available in warty-security or wherever it was
[12:15] <alex2> is it possible to update yelp content ?
[12:15] <bob2> Corin: I'd recommend avoiding webmin as much as possible
[12:15] <dreadnought> bob2: ok im htere
[12:15] <Corin> i assume once its set up, i just access it remotely, over web browser
[12:15] <Corin> but i dont know how to set up
[12:15] <wegstar> about installing ubuntu to a 32MB RAM machine... I managed to get the base system installed, but grub failed to install....
[12:15] <bob2> Corin: if that's not possible, 'http://localhost:10000'
[12:15] <Corin> bob2, what would you recomend?
[12:15] <clay> Hey, is there any advantage to apt-get'ing KDE on top of Ubunutu rather than installing Kubuntu?
[12:15] <wegstar> what should I do?
[12:15] <dreadnought> bob2 now what
[12:15] <misfit_toy> Corin, webmin will just make you learn less about your system
[12:15] <bob2> wegstar: is it possible to install that drive from another machine?
[12:15] <brownie17> nalioth, whew! that's a load off my mind! :)
[12:15] <wegstar> hmm.. no.. :(
[12:15] <bob2> clay: installing kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu = installing kubuntu
[12:16] <misfit_toy> Corin, look things up when you want to do something: http://tldp.org
[12:16] <bob2> dreadnought: now run the second command line (ie the 4th line)
[12:16] <blackhat> http://pastebin.com/428372
[12:16] <suix> I've a centrino, and it makes noise under linux when it's in a low speed mode, anybody has the same problem??
[12:16] <gnomefreak> clay, kde is the desktop  kubuntu-desktop is a bunch of things
[12:16] <bob2> Corin: I'd recommend learning to configure things yourself
[12:16] <clay> That is what I would think, but I read somewhere that Kubuntu wasn't as good as Ub+KDE
[12:16] <bob2> suix: my ibm x40 is silent when not under heavy load
[12:16] <clay> Ok, very good thanks
[12:16] <Corin> bob2, http://localhost:10000 wont let me do it, because no ssl...?
[12:16] <bob2> (ie unless I'm compiling mozilla)
[12:16] <lightbright> gnomefreak: colony 3? :P
[12:16] <gnomefreak> clay install kubuntudesktop
[12:16] <wegstar> is there some way I could install grub from knoppix?
[12:16] <brownie17> clay, i think it would be better, because then you cna use the sessions manager to choose which desktop to use!
[12:16] <blackhat> http://pastebin.com/428372 (im an amd64 user and setup a 32bit chroot and I am getting that error when trying to apt-get upgrade)
[12:16] <gnomefreak> yep thats like beta 3
[12:17] <dreadnought> bob2 starting with what it all?
[12:17] <clay> I can do that now
[12:17] <wegstar> or a way from the ubuntu cd?
[12:17] <clay> with apt-get kde
[12:17] <bob2> dreadnought: I cannot parse that sentence
[12:17] <clay> kdebase
[12:17] <clay> and some others
[12:17] <Kovecses> you want to use
[12:17] <clay> you use Tor/Privoxy?
[12:17] <bob2> wegstar: you could reboot into 'expert' mode on the installer and select the 'write mbr with grub' option
[12:17] <Kovecses> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:17] <dreadnought> so the whole thing right?
[12:17] <wegstar> ummm
[12:17] <nalioth> bob2 id 10 t parser module offline?
[12:17] <alex2> use apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[12:17] <clay> still? after already apt-get'ing the KDE ?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:18] <suix> I've a centrino, and it makes noise under linux when it's in a low speed mode, anybody has the same problem??
[12:18] <bob2> dreadnought: tell me exactly what you're going to type in, before you do so
[12:18] <clay> I usually get lazy and sudo su as soon as I hit cmd
[12:18] <blackhat> when I try to use dpkg -i *.deb to install a file, I get this error "dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `postdrop' in statusoverride file"
[12:18] <wegstar> bob2: the grub installer hangs
[12:18] <gnomefreak> clay run sudo apt-get remove kde first if it bothers you
[12:18] <lightbright> gnomefreak: why do you prefer ubuntu over debian?
[12:18] <dreadnought> bob2 this           ln -s <JRE installation directory>/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[12:19] <dreadnought> right
[12:19] <brownie17> suix, you mean underclocked?
[12:19] <gnomefreak> i have debian on other hd
[12:19] <clay> It doesn't bother me, I am just curious what would be different in the apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:19] <clay> siince you guys said they were the same thing
[12:19] <suix> yup
[12:19] <lightbright> gnomefreak: so why use ubuntu over debian?
[12:19] <gnomefreak> but ubuntu does things alittle different
[12:19] <bob2> dreadnought: no
[12:19] <lightbright> gnomefreak: such as?
[12:19] <dreadnought> then what bob2
[12:19] <Kovecses> dont forget ubuntu has gnome 2.12
[12:19] <clay> What does bother me is I cannot get tor or privoxy to run, they break. Say that /var/lib/tor <for tor> isn't owned by me
[12:19] <brownie17> suix, could be a bios setting, maybe try googling it.
[12:19] <gnomefreak> i use sarge, ubuntu and libranet
[12:19] <bob2> dreadnought: <JRE installation directory> is telling you "replace this bit with the path to the JRE installagtion directory"
[12:19] <adriyel> lightbright, ubuntu requires less configging, has better hardware support, has a better integrated desktop, its easier in general
[12:19] <dreadnought> oh put the path in
[12:19] <suix> ive been googling but ive not seen anything
[12:19] <Corin> bob2, ?
[12:19] <lightbright> Kovecses: what does Debian have? older gnome?
[12:19] <bob2> blackhat: what did you to do your system?
[12:19] <dreadnought> yea i no i forgot
[12:19] <Kovecses> lightbright, yes
[12:19] <suix> unde3r windwos there's no problem...
[12:19] <lightbright> adriyel: sounds good
[12:19] <adriyel> lightbright, debian is also extremely old
[12:19] <blackhat> bob2; setup a 32 bit chroot
[12:19] <bob2> Corin: as I said, I don't use webmin; try /usr/share/doc/webmin/
[12:19] <korio> how do i enable totem to use xine?
[12:20] <bob2> korio: install totem-xine
[12:20] <Agrajag> korio: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[12:20] <Kovecses> lightbright, ubuntu the software is way more up to date.... but debian is rock solid
[12:20] <lightbright> adriyel: but isnt ubuntu based on debian?
[12:20] <adriyel> lightbright, those people are anal about testing packages forever, not necessarily a bad thing but they take it to the extreme
[12:20] <gnomefreak> etch isnt old
[12:20] <Knowerrors> Can anyone help with this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89854
[12:20] <alex2> korio, read media help in yelp
[12:20] <gnomefreak> lightbright,  based on not the same as is debian
[12:20] <bob2> blackhat: copying the /etc/group from outside the chroot into it is the simplest solution
[12:20] <adriyel> lightbright, yes it is, but "we" choose different packages, and don't take as long to test them
[12:20] <Kovecses> gnomefreak, etch is broken right now
[12:20] <blackhat> I've done that bob2.
[12:20] <dreadnought> ln -s </home/andrew/Desktop>/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[12:20] <dreadnought>      right now?
[12:20] <adriyel> based on is different than same, *nods*
[12:20] <fletch33> ne tell me why i have a lock on a folder that i moved from a disc and how can i get rid of it so i can delete it
[12:20] <gnomefreak> ubuntu only has 3 versions and they are on a stricker release
[12:20] <clay> A quick question about sudo.  Great idea and all, and I'll admit I'm a newb but how come every user can sudo? Or at least this is how it is for me
[12:21] <lightbright> well i think im going to begi using Ubuntu as im using Sarge and its older
[12:21] <gnomefreak> lol at sid being broke
[12:21] <Zukero> lightbright : debian still uses a very old linux kernel
[12:21] <wegstar> hmm
[12:21] <brownie17> suix, yes but if you are using a pc with special buttons for special modes, then the GUI will not be installed under linux, therefore it will probably go with the default setting, or the last setting. which in your case appears to be "low speed".
[12:21] <clay> is there a default setting that can be changed so my kid can't sudo ?
[12:21] <bob2> blackhat: 'grep postdrop /etc/group', in the chroot, prints what?
[12:21] <wegstar> so is there some otger way I can get grub installed on that machine
[12:21] <lightbright> Zukero: Debian Sarge uses 2.6.8 , what does ubuntu use?
[12:21] <wegstar> other*
[12:21] <Agrajag> clay: he needs to be removed from the admin group
[12:21] <gnomefreak> clay he cant sudo unless you give him password
[12:21] <bob2> clay: by default only the first user created can
[12:21] <clay> and sudo with their own password , rather
[12:21] <adriyel> clay, remove your child from the admin group
[12:21] <blackhat> bob2; prints nothing.
[12:21] <bob2> wegstar: you can't reboot into expert mode?
[12:21] <adriyel> darn gnomefreak
[12:21] <Kovecses> why is it taking so long for things to copy from my dvd driv.... is it because of dma?
[12:21] <Zukero> lightbright : i thought Sarge used 2.4.*
[12:21] <wegstar> I am in expert mode
[12:21] <bob2> blackhat: then you didn't copy /etc/group into the chroot
[12:21] <lightbright> Kovecses: try this hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[12:21] <wegstar> in the shell...
[12:21] <gnomefreak> sarge uses 2.4 kernel by default
[12:21] <blackhat> I did bob2.
[12:21] <Zukero> last time i installed a sarge, it came with 2.4.*
[12:21] <adriyel> clay, System - Administration - Users and Groups, remove him from the admin group
[12:21] <bob2> wegstar: select install mbr from the menu
[12:21] <clay> really? that is weird, maybe it did it by default  but I thought i went into users and groups and just created an account but that makes sense and I'm happy it is because *she* is in a group
[12:22] <clay> thanks
[12:22] <blackhat> cp /etc/group /var/32/etc/group
[12:22] <blackhat> I did.
[12:22] <bob2> blackhat: what does it print outside the chroot?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> you can compile 2.6 for it tho
[12:22] <adriyel> clay, yes it does do it by default
[12:22] <lightbright> Zukero: hmm maybe, but I up[dated to 2.6.8, whats ubuntu use?
[12:22] <Zukero> yeha
[12:22] <Corin> bob2, it says run setup.sh from that directory...
[12:22] <Zukero> 2.6....;
[12:22] <Kovecses> sarge uses 2.4 by default 2.6 as an option
[12:22] <dreadnought> bob2?
[12:22] <zerokarmaleft> why doesn't breezy's glxgears give framerate info?
[12:22] <adriyel> at least it doesn't login to root by default like Linspire
[12:22] <Zukero> i don't really know :)
[12:22] <Corin> there is no setup.sh in /usr/share/doc/webmin/
[12:22] <Corin> ?
[12:22] <wegstar> there is no such option there...
[12:22] <gnomefreak> 2.6.12 is ubuntu i think (breezy)
[12:22] <blackhat> posts nothing in and out of the chroot
[12:22] <fletch33> can someone please tell me why all the folders that i move over from cd have a lock on them and i cannot delete them now and how i can fix that
[12:22] <adriyel> zerokarmaleft, noone knows, I have same thing
[12:23] <bob2> dreadnought: ...
[12:23] <adriyel> omg, this looks like tetris lvl 50, TOO MANY PEOPLE
[12:23] <bob2> zerokarmaleft: to stop people using it as a benchmarking tool
[12:23] <dreadnought> i no bob2
[12:23] <bob2> blackhat: you removed postfix?
[12:23] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok
[12:23] <blackhat> No.
[12:23] <Kovecses> lightbright, thats the command thanks
[12:23] <korio> how do i make totem-xine to be able to stream movies in firefox?
[12:23] <bob2> fletch33: how are you copying them?
[12:23] <dreadnought> bob2 Im noobolicious!
[12:23] <lightbright> how many developers does ubuntu have?
[12:23] <lightbright> Kovecses:  np :)
[12:23] <wegstar> there's only the option to install Grub and Lilo
[12:23] <bob2> dreadnought: ...
[12:23] <fletch33> dragging from disc
[12:23] <dreadnought> bob2 did you see it?
[12:23] <bob2> dreadnought: you need to ask a question, or show us what you're going to run
[12:23] <blackhat> bob2; i did nothing.
[12:23] <fletch33> bob2, dragging from a disc
[12:23] <misfit_toy> korio, there are excellent instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org
[12:23] <bob2> blackhat: what does 'dpkg -l postfix | tail -n1' print outside the chroot?
[12:23] <bob2> dreadnought: get rid of the < and >
[12:23] <zerokarmaleft> bob2: 1) why would people use glxgears as a benchmark?  2) why is that bad?
[12:24] <korio> misfit_toy, you wouldnt mind to link to thoose instructions?
[12:24] <dreadnought> oh
[12:24] <Kovecses> glxgears sucks
[12:24] <fletch33> bob2,  how can i fix that> ubu won let me delete them now
[12:24] <gnomefreak> lightbright,  i dont remember off hand you should beable to find that info on ubuntu.com
[12:24] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok
[12:24] <alex2> I got "OIL: ERROR liboiltest.c 247: (): illegal instruction in idct8x8_s16_mmx
[12:24] <alex2> " during the gstreamer0.8 installation, what went wrong ?
[12:24] <blackhat> un  postfix        <none>         (no description available)
[12:24] <misfit_toy> korio, hold on
[12:24] <bnD> can someone help me out? randomly im unable to install any new packages using synaptic or apt-get
[12:24] <bob2> zerokarmaleft: a) people are stupid b) people would file bugs about how it was slower
[12:24] <CosmoDad> fletch33: maybe right-click the files, see properties and check right permissions?
[12:24] <bob2> alex2: when installing the ubuntu packages
[12:25] <wegstar> could I install grub from another source?
[12:25] <Kovecses> bnD, how random is it
[12:25] <blackhat> and in the chroot it posts 'iF  postfix        2.1.5-9ubuntu3 A high-performance mail transport agent'
[12:25] <bob2> bnD: and the error is...?
[12:25] <lightbright> gnomefreak: I ordered 5 breezy CD from website,  They arrived Friday, need to go pick them up
[12:25] <misfit_toy> korio, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84742
[12:25] <fletch33> CosmoDad, checking that
[12:25] <dreadnought> bob2: i tried it and it said permission denied at the end is that bad
[12:25] <gnomefreak> already?
[12:25] <bob2> blackhat: so you did remove postfix then
[12:25] <bnD> bob2, "couldnt stat source package list" and "Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)"
[12:25] <gnomefreak> i oredered mine oct 2nd i think
[12:25] <blackhat> No bob2.
[12:25] <lightbright> will 40gig hd be enough to install breezy?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> still havent seen them
[12:25] <lightbright> just kidding :)
[12:25] <bob2> bnD: does 'sudo apt-get update' fix it?
[12:25] <Agrajag> lightbright: more than enough
[12:25] <terry__> hello folks
[12:25] <bnD> bob2, nope
[12:25] <gnomefreak> more than engough
[12:25] <bnD> ;/
[12:25] <thrush> lightbright: u will need about 1.8 gigs plus a little more for extras
[12:25] <alex2> bob2, no when installing multimedia plugins
[12:25] <Corin> bob2?
[12:25] <Agrajag> you could do it in 10, or even 5 or less
[12:25] <lightbright> thrush: ok
[12:25] <Talisker> !tell Talisker abot quick time
[12:25] <bob2> bnD: are you using archive.ubuntu.com?
[12:25] <zerokarmaleft> bob2: good enough reason for me
[12:25] <bob2> Corin: ?
[12:25] <holycow> bizarre
[12:25] <sizzam> im trying to burn a .img file (similar to burning an iso file) anyone have any suggestions
[12:25] <gnomefreak> breezy default install is what like 3-5 gig?
[12:26] <bnD> bob2, ive tried archive and us.archive
[12:26] <CosmoDad> lightbright: basically yes, but to be sure I'd say: it depends on your needs :)
[12:26] <bnD> bob2, you must be good at multitasking ;)
[12:26] <holycow> now totem-mozilla actually plays qt7 streams
[12:26] <bob2> zerokarmaleft: it was mainly done because someone snapped and patched it
[12:26] <Corin> the help file says to run setup.sh in the same directory as the readme file....
[12:26] <holycow> just started all of a sudden
[12:26] <Corin> but there is not setujp.sh file there
[12:26] <lightbright> I hope breezy will play smoother videos!  Sarge plays choppy because it doesnt pick up my video card so it uses VESA
[12:26] <terry__> is any one here that could help with wi fi on and e machine m5312
[12:26] <bob2> bnD: try replacing archive.ubuntu.com with 82.211.81.167
[12:26] <dreadnought> bob2: stop doin that
[12:26] <fletch33> CosmoDad,  read and execute are all checked
[12:26] <Kovecses> gnome-look loves ubuntu
[12:26] <blackhat> bob2; how would I remove postfix in chroot?
[12:26] <bnD> bob2, thanks ill try that, brb
[12:26] <gnomefreak> lightbright, are you gonna try to install it? or just dream for now? :)
[12:26] <adriyel> lightbright, what kind of video card do you have?
[12:26] <CosmoDad> fletch33: you need write checked to be able to delete...
[12:26] <Talisker> "No talisker, I won't"
[12:26] <misfit_toy> Kovecses, and art.gnome.org
[12:27] <Talisker> WTF?
[12:27] <fletch33> CosmoDad, thanks
[12:27] <bob2> dreadnought: 'sudo ln -s ...'
[12:27] <Corin> bob2, the help file says to run setup.sh in the same directory as the readme file....
[12:27] <bob2> dreadnought: stop it
[12:27] <Corin> bob2, but there is not setup.sh file there
[12:27] <CosmoDad> fletch33: you're welcome
[12:27] <bnD> bob2, i have a hyperactive child talking to me, pls remind me where sources.list is? :P
[12:27] <Ropechoborra> I got an usb Amigo PTI 800 adsl modem... how can i configure it in hoary ?
[12:27] <lightbright> I have a  Hercules 3D Prophet 4000XT (STMicroelectronics KYRO) video card, will breezy work with that?
[12:27] <bob2> dreadnought: run the same command as before, with 'sudo' in front of it
[12:27] <bob2> Corin: as I said, I don't use webmin
[12:27] <Agrajag> bnD: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:27] <bob2> Ropechoborra: does it have a linux driver?
[12:27] <lightbright> gnomefreak: im waiting to go pick it up from post office
[12:27] <misfit_toy> webmin will teach you LESS about your system
[12:27] <Corin> does anyone here know how to get webmin working?
[12:27] <bob2> bnD: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:27] <Ropechoborra> Nope
[12:28] <gnomefreak> i perfer http://www.desktopgirls.com/ lol
[12:28] <jacekP> hi,
[12:28] <lightbright> adriyel: I have a  Hercules 3D Prophet 4000XT (STMicroelectronics KYRO) video card, will breezy work with that?
[12:28] <bob2> Ropechoborra: then you're screwed
[12:28] <bnD> Agrajag, bob2, thanks
[12:28] <gnomefreak> bvut art.gnome.org and kde.look.org are good sites
[12:28] <gnomefreak> but*
[12:28] <Ropechoborra> bob2 but ive heart that it works in linux
[12:28] <jacekP> did anybody have success making vmware work under ubuntu?
[12:28] <everton137> Hi, I re-intalled my Ububuntu system on hda9 for upgrade to breezy and saved my old home on hda7. I changed my fstab (option notail for /home) and /home is not mounting anymore. What is wrong?
[12:28] <bob2> Ropechoborra: so it does?
[12:28] <bob2> jacekP: works fine
[12:28] <bob2> jacekP: you'll need the any2any patch for it to work with 2.6.12, tho
[12:28] <Ropechoborra> bob2 got to configure it
[12:28] <iratsu> I get the following error in Xorg: Fatal Server error: Caught Signal 11. What does this mean?
[12:28] <wegstar> bob2: could I install grub from a floppy?
[12:28] <bob2> everton137: need to show it to us in #flood
[12:29] <jacekP> thanks
[12:29] <terry__> hello can anyone here help me with a wlan issue
[12:29] <bnD> bob2, Couldn't stat source package list http://82.211.81.167 breezy-backports/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/82.211.81.167_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[12:29] <bob2> wegstar: probably not
[12:29] <bnD> etc.
[12:29] <everton137> bob2, I will show my fstab there
[12:29] <bob2> bnD: comment out the backports line in your sources.list with # at the start of the line
[12:29] <veloct> bnD: link may be down, that's all
[12:29] <bob2> terry__: not unless you ask
[12:29] <blackhat>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[12:29] <blackhat>  (how can I set that)?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> iratsu, im thinking that means that xsession crashed but i dont know never seen that error
[12:29] <bob2> iratsu: need to show us the rest of the log
[12:29] <terry__> hi bob
[12:29] <bnD> veloct, it comes up when i access via www
[12:29] <CosmoDad> terry__: describe your issue
[12:29] <everton137> bob2, done
[12:29] <lightbright> how can I find out if breezy will work with my Hercules 3D Prophet 4000XT video card?
[12:30] <dreadnought> bob2: ok it went back to the prompt now what?
[12:30] <terry__> i have and e macihne 5312
[12:30] <everton137> bob2, I mounted now manualu and it is working, but when I boot, not.
[12:30] <veloct> bnD hmm
[12:30] <terry__> ubuntu canot see my wireless
[12:30] <bnD> bob2, same issue with all other repo's
[12:30] <bnD> bob2, commented out, same reply
[12:30] <CosmoDad> terry__: what driver would you need for that? is the module loaded?
[12:30] <bnD> veloct, :) i know right ;P
[12:30] <Corin> anyone here help me with webmin?
[12:30] <bob2> dreadnought: now restart mozilla
[12:30] <gnomefreak> lol at bob2 being called from every angle
[12:30] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[12:30] <bob2> bnD: full error, #flood
[12:31] <alex2> lol
[12:31] <bnD> bob2, thanks one sec
[12:31] <bob2> terry__: what chipset is it?
[12:31] <veloct> bnD: you sure you got the link right?
[12:31] <terry__> ?
[12:31] <squareyes> morning all
[12:31] <Ropechoborra> bob2 i think i got the drivers... how do i install them?
[12:31] <terry__> brodcom?
[12:31] <Corin> bob2, what was the command i used to change the new users default directory?
[12:31] <bob2> everton137: mount options for / in fstab are ignored
[12:31] <dreadnought> bob2: ok its off now
[12:31] <bnD> veloct, yes, ive tried several :/
[12:31] <Corin> it was a file called passwd or something...?
[12:31] <bob2> everton137: since the kernel mounts / before / is mounted, so it can't read fstab ;p
[12:32] <CosmoDad> terry__: what kind of chipset is used on your WLAN adapter?
[12:32] <bob2> Corin: /etc/passwd
[12:32] <bob2> I'm ure there's a better way
[12:32] <CosmoDad> terry__: broadcom ok
[12:32] <terry__> broadcom
[12:32] <alex2> corin it's ~/.bashrc
[12:32] <terry__> i think
[12:32] <iratsu> bob2: well there's not much info about the error
[12:32] <Corin> ok
[12:32] <everton137> bob2, So, how could I solve this? :-O
[12:32] <terry__> i am a newbie to linux
[12:32] <iratsu> bob2: there isn't even a [EE]  line
[12:32] <Kovecses> brb
[12:32] <dreadnought> bob2: and now its on back on now what
[12:32] <alex2> your right it's /etc/passwd
[12:32] <bob2> terry__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[12:32] <everton137> bob2, I mean, which options shoud I use?
[12:32] <bob2> dreadnought: I don't know what that sentence means
[12:32] <bnD> bob2, its goin in flood
[12:32] <bob2> everton137: the simplest solution is to not do it
[12:32] <misfit_toy> bob2, don't you read your lewis carroll?
[12:33] <misfit_toy> ;p
[12:33] <bob2> everton137: more complicated would be to 'sudo mount -o remount /' at boot
[12:33] <dreadnought> bob2: its resatrted now what
[12:33] <bob2> dreadnought: 'about:plugins'
[12:33] <squareyes> is there anyway I can downgrade from Breezy back to Hoary without losing software I have downloaded, am on dialup?
[12:33] <CosmoDad> terry__: what's the card's name?
[12:33] <dreadnought> bob2 what
[12:33] <bob2> misfit_toy: hah, not in years
[12:33] <bob2> squareyes: no
[12:33] <bnD> bob2, its all there, any thoughts?
[12:33] <bob2> dreadnought: you need to use punctuation more
[12:33] <CosmoDad> terry__: n/m bob2 seems to know it uses Ndiswrapper
[12:33] <djk_> kubuntu breezy hangs on bootup at "starting hotplug subsystem" on an old laptop. any ideas what can cause this and what to do to fix this?
[12:33] <bob2> dreadnought: type 'about:plugin', no quotes, into the url bar
[12:33] <veloct> bnD: try this one: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[12:33] <bob2> djk_: trying 'noapic', 'nolapic' or 'acpi=off' as boot options will probably work
[12:34] <FrideF> I am having a terrible time getting my sound working under breezy.  I get no errors from anything that plays sounds (such as xmms).  I am using breezy on my amd64 ML-40 (2.2Ghz) laptop.  It's using some kind of AC'97 chip.  I have tried several mixers but can't find a setting/switch that help.
[12:34] <terry__> ok guys I will read and get back to you thanks for the link
[12:34] <bnD> veloct, ive had that before i think, but ok, one sec
[12:34] <terry__> I must say I really like this OS
[12:34] <ubuntu> help im new!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hehe
[12:34] <squareyes> thanks bob, take care
[12:34] <dreadnought> ok its in bob2
[12:34] <dreadnought> enter?
[12:34] <FrideF> it's an MSI laptop (model 1029 chasis)
[12:35] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: ask a question
[12:35] <everton137> bob2, I didnt understand, cant I just change my fstab and mount at boot time?
[12:35] <bnD> um veloct, yeah i just had that in, had just commented it out from bob2's suggestion
[12:35] <bnD> either way, same response
[12:35] <bob2> dreadnought: and what did it say?
[12:35] <veloct> bnD: k
[12:35] <bob2> bnD: are you sure you're not behind a web proxy?
[12:35] <bob2> everton137: no
[12:35] <FrideF> So, here is my question:  is there a utility that will detect and configure a soundcard out there?
[12:35] <bnD> bob2, ahhh, actually i am, just installed squid
[12:35] <bob2> everton137: the kernel ignores fstab to mount /
[12:35] <bnD> lol
[12:35] <ubuntu> i have jarver
[12:35] <bnD> bob2, any idea how to get it through
[12:35] <bnD> ?
[12:35] <bob2> bnD: does it work if you don't go through it?
[12:35] <dreadnought> bob2: it wont do any thing if i just type it in or press eenter
[12:35] <blackhat> I get this when I try to run wine, can someone help? - http://pastebin.com/428390
[12:36] <Agrajag> bob2: you sure about that?
[12:36] <bob2> dreadnought: press enter...
[12:36] <bnD> bob2, lemme kill squid one sec
[12:36] <Agrajag> /dev/hdb2 on / type reiserfs (rw,noatime,notail)
[12:36] <bob2> Agrajag: which bit?
[12:36] <Agrajag> bob2: the kernel mounts it read-only, then re-mounts it rw with the options you give it
[12:36] <dreadnought> bob2: doesnt even flinch
[12:36] <bob2> Agrajag: well, the kernel ignores it, maybe bootmisc.sh or such remounts it?
[12:36] <bob2> Agrajag: oh, you're right
[12:37] <bob2> blackhat: a) don't run it as root, b) that binary install you did is broken
[12:37] <bob2> blackhat: install libstdc++6
[12:37] <bob2> dreadnought: = ?
[12:37] <heinzanova> Hey I just recently installed Ubuntu, and I am trying to get my linksys wmp54g PCI working, I downloaded the GUI version of NdisWrapper via the package menu, and when I go into wireless network drivers, and click install and select from the folder linksys\drivers\blah.inf and hit insatll it doesnt do anything.  Help please?
[12:37] <dreadnought> bob2: huh?
[12:37] <bnD> bob2, its the same with squid off, however i set iptables to only allow squid/dansguardian through, any idea how to let apt work correctly?
[12:37] <dreadnought> bob2: what r u tryin to do here/
[12:37] <bob2> dreadnought: so, I can't see your screen
[12:37] <bob2> dreadnought: so you need to tell me what it says
[12:38] <bob2> dreadnought: I have no idea what "doesnt even flinch" signifies
[12:38] <bob2> bnD: depends hwo yo uconfigured iptables
[12:38] <dreadnought> bob2: its still at the homepage and i typed in about:plugin and pressed enter and nothing happens
[12:38] <gnomefreak> is firestarted easy to configure and set up?
[12:39] <bob2> so I hear
[12:39] <gnomefreak> firestarter even
[12:39] <wegstar> bob2: is there some way I could extract GRUB from the installation cd?
[12:39] <bob2> dreadnought: nothing at all?
[12:39] <bob2> wegstar: it's already extracted
[12:39] <dreadnought> bob2: nope!
[12:39] <bob2> wegstar: what happens when you run the grub menu item?
[12:39] <fletch33> CosmoDad, is there any way to migrate them without having to unlock every single file
[12:39] <Agrajag> about:plugins
[12:39] <bnD> bob2, i used tables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -m owner --uid-owner squid -j ACCEPT
[12:39] <bnD> iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 3128 -m owner --uid-owner squid -j ACCEPT
[12:39] <wegstar> grub isn't installed :(
[12:39] <dreadnought> bob2: what was supposed to happed
[12:39] <bob2> dreadnought: I find that hard to believe
[12:39] <Agrajag> dreadnought: about:plugins
[12:39] <bob2> dreadnought: here it shows a red screen, if nothing else
[12:40] <bob2> wegstar: I don't understand you
[12:40] <bob2> bnD: ugh
[12:40] <bnD> uh oh
[12:40] <bnD> ;P
[12:40] <bob2> bnD: I'd just flush iptables entirely
[12:40] <dreadnought> bob2: no i swear to god nothing happens
[12:40] <ion> anyone which can help with my DVD player ?
[12:40] <CosmoDad> fletch33: I'd do it on the console: find <path where files are> -type f -exec chmod u+w {} \;
[12:40] <wegstar> bob2: ok, so I am in the middle of the installation process...
[12:40] <Agrajag> dreadnought:
[12:40] <Agrajag> dreadnought:
[12:40] <bnD> bob2, how do i go about doing that?
[12:40] <bob2> wegstar: no
[12:40] <Agrajag> LISTEN
[12:40] <Agrajag> about:plugins
[12:40] <ithiel> ubotu tell ion about restricted formats
[12:40] <ithiel> have fun ion
[12:40] <wegstar> bob2: and grub fails to install
[12:40] <dreadnought> lemme try to restart mozilla
[12:40] <bob2> wegstar: reboot into the installer in expert mode and select the grub option
[12:40] <Agrajag> oy
[12:40] <CosmoDad> fletch33: the find command looks for regular files and adds write rights for the owner
[12:40] <triplah> excuse me, trying to trouble shoot my mums pc. whats the repo name for the openssh deamon?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> ty bob2 i didnt know about about:plugins :)
[12:41] <thrush> triplah: openssh-server?
[12:41] <Agrajag> triplah: openssh
[12:41] <dreadnought> hehe i left out the s at the end
[12:41] <triplah> hmm
[12:41] <triplah> openssh didnt work
[12:41] <triplah> i'll try server
[12:41] <Agrajag> oh
[12:41] <bob2> gah
[12:41] <Agrajag> just ssh
[12:41] <wegstar> bob2: the grub installer freezes at 0% and just stays there...
[12:41] <dreadnought> bob2: now it says no plugins are installed
[12:41] <CosmoDad> fletch33: if you want to do the same for directories, do that again with "-type d"
[12:41] <heinzanova> anyone wanna give me some advice on my wireless delema?
[12:41] <bnD> ill bet bob2 has a mother of a headache ;D
[12:41] <bob2> wegstar: are you sure the CD is ok?
[12:41] <fletch33> CosmoDad, ok i will have to look into that thanks i just started at this and i have no idea how to fo the command lines yet lol
[12:41] <wegstar> dunno
[12:41] <dreadnought> ino
[12:42] <lightbright> how can I find out if breezy will work with my Hercules 3D Prophet 4000XT video card?
[12:42] <Agrajag> bnD: I helped that guy with some stuff yesterday
[12:42] <dreadnought> with what im doen
[12:42] <Agrajag> I'm still taking ibuprofen
[12:42] <bnD> lol
[12:42] <thrush> lightbright: i wouldnt think youd have too much of a problem with that card
[12:42] <dreadnought> thanks on that agrajag
[12:42] <CosmoDad> fletch33: you might also be able to just right click on the root folder and tell it to change rights on all files recursively
[12:42] <CosmoDad> fletch33: but I'm not how/if that works
[12:42] <dreadnought> ok so whats the prob bob2
[12:42] <bnD> i didnt mean dreadnought specifically, i meant the multitude including myself ;)
[12:42] <wegstar> bob2: the cd worked on another comp...
[12:42] <dreadnought> oh yes
[12:42] <lightbright> thrush:  ok
[12:42] <ion> ithiel: is not restrict format is normal DVD which I try to play with VLC, totem but does't work the application ask me for some plugins
[12:42] <Agrajag> true, I couldn't keep up 6 conversations at once
[12:42] <fletch33> CosmoDad, thanks alot for your help
[12:43] <bnD> i have a hard time with one Agrajag :)
[12:43] <CosmoDad> fletch33: np
[12:43] <bob2> wegstar: does it pass the verifiation stage
[12:43] <hypn0> what should happen when i click on video in firefox :-/
[12:43] <bob2> lightbright: by trying it
[12:43] <dreadnought> i no ur busy but what is that good? bob2
[12:43] <brownie17> does anyone here know anything about compiling with gcc?
[12:43] <bob2> dreadnought: "ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla//plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so"
[12:43] <wegstar> bob2: no.. but there's a menu item to check the CD's integrity...
[12:43] <bob2> dreadnought: are you a native english speaker?
[12:43] <bob2> brownie17: best to just ask your question
[12:43] <bob2> wegstar: try it
[12:43] <bnD> has anyone here successfully configured dansguardian/squid to work? the only instructions i found were for redhat, and didnt work quite right, buggered iptables, and allows no webactivity regardless of site content :x
[12:43] <dreadnought> hehe kinda
[12:43] <Talisker> do you ppl know any quicktime plugin for mozilla/firefox that actually works? The totem one just makes my machine crash
[12:44] <dreadnought> with sudo in front bob2?
[12:44] <bob2> dreadnought: no
[12:44] <LjL> seveas: would you by any chance know how to add dependencies to a .deb? i mean, i suppose i can poke into the .deb manually, but besides that?
[12:44] <heinzanova> anyone know why the visual wireless network drivers program doesnt actually install the driver, even after I select the proper *.INF file?
[12:44] <dreadnought> and in the andrew@ubuntu:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins$
[12:44] <dreadnought>  directory
[12:44] <bnD> hey bob2 any pointers on 'flushing the iptables'?
[12:44] <bob2> dreadnought: doesn't matter
[12:45] <brownie17> how do i compile a file in gcc? i tried doing this "gcc samp.c
[12:45] <brownie17> " and it created "a.out". is "a.out" my c++ file?
[12:45] <bnD> dreadnought, youre pointing to the dir you need, regardless of the one youre in
[12:45] <bob2> bnD: sudo iptables -F ; sudo iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT ; sudo iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT ; sudo iptables -P FORWARDING ACCEPT
[12:45] <everton137> bob2, So, what should I do to boot hda7 on home? any tip?
[12:45] <bnD> bob2, <3
[12:45] <bob2> brownie17: a.out is the executable
[12:45] <ithiel> ion, sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[12:45] <thrush> brownie17: gcc samp.c -o filename i believe
[12:45] <Agrajag> brownie17: a.out is the compiled executable
[12:45] <ithiel> sorry for delayed response ion
[12:45] <Agrajag> use the -o option to change the output filename
[12:45] <bob2> brownie17: normally you do gcc -o output foo.cc
[12:46] <dreadnought> bob2: it says no such drive oir dir
[12:46] <brownie17> bob2, so when i try running it, i get bash: "a.out: command not found"
[12:46] <bob2> dreadnought: then you didn't make te symlink to begin with
[12:46] <Bliz1> i have a dwl-520 with a prism 2 chipset rev p will that work in 5.4? i also have a trendnet tew-421pc TI chipset does that work
[12:46] <bob2> brownie17: ./a.out
[12:46] <bob2> brownie17: bash looks for command names in $PATH, and ./ will not be in $PATH
[12:46] <gnomefreak> apt-get clean   cleans unneded files right?
[12:46] <bob2> Bliz1: prism, yes
[12:46] <heinzanova> since no one here seems to know, can any of you suggest a room to goto with my wireless problem????
[12:46] <bob2> gnomefreak: downloaded .debs, yes
[12:46] <gnomefreak> ty
[12:46] <brownie17> bob2, oh i get it. ok.
[12:47] <bob2> heinzanova: why are you wasting time with a graphical tool?
[12:47] <bob2> heinzanova: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[12:47] <Bliz1> bob2: it did not work before. i am getting the dvd so i can test this with the live boot
[12:47] <dreadnought> aughhh can i just start over and do it right?
[12:47] <fletch33> CosmoDad, you ever had your cd rom not open
[12:47] <bnD> lol bob2 will a restart for iptables be necessary to apply those changes? apt's still having the same issue
[12:47] <CosmoDad> fletch33: not open?
[12:47] <heinzanova> because I suck at the linux
[12:47] <bob2> dreadnought: cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins ; sudo ln -s /home/whateveritwas/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[12:47] <fletch33> CosmoDad, it is dead the cd drive will not open like it has no power
[12:48] <Agrajag> dreadnought: Why don't you just follow the guide at the RestrictedFormats node on the wiki
[12:48] <Agrajag> ?
[12:48] <bob2> heinzanova: that page is pretty simple; read it and ask us if you have any troubles understanding it
[12:48] <heinzanova> bob2: thanks
[12:48] <bob2> Bliz1: "did not work"?
[12:48] <fletch33> CosmoDad,  weird i just got files of it
[12:48] <bob2> bnD: restart?
[12:48] <fletch33> CosmoDad,  works in windows
[12:48] <Bliz1> bob2: not in previous ones
[12:48] <misfit_toy> anybody used gaim-vv ? is it still too beta? I just want to be able to have my little girl on vid for her grandparents via gaim/msn...
[12:48] <bnD> bob2,  sudo iptables restart or something similar?
[12:48] <dreadnought> uh it said ln: `./libjavaplugin_oji.so': File exists
[12:48] <dreadnought> andrew@ubuntu:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins$
[12:48] <bnD> bob2, otherwise the changes didnt make a difference :/
[12:48] <bob2> bnD: no, the command I gave you will restart it
[12:49] <dreadnought> is that good bob2
[12:49] <CosmoDad> fletch33: right click on it, and "release" (or whatever it is in english, the last one)
[12:49] <FrideF> ok, this is weird
[12:49] <Bliz1> bob2: it didnt work off the bat with the dlink one i had a bitch of a time to get it working but then it stoped working and i couldnt get it back
[12:49] <bnD> bob2, well it took the commands, however apt is having the same issues
[12:49] <fletch33> CosmoDad, holy cow that was cool thanks
[12:49] <bob2> dreadnought: ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/, #flood
[12:49] <fletch33> CosmoDad,  i would have never thought that
[12:49] <bob2> bnD: the bzip2 ones? does your isp have a "transparent" proxy?
[12:49] <fletch33> CosmoDad, thanks again
[12:49] <dreadnought> bob2: copy and paste all that into the terminal?
[12:49] <bnD> bob2, nope :/
[12:50] <FrideF> My sound works through the HEADPHONES, but through the built-in speakers it doesn't.  If I unplug the headphones, shouldn't it route to the speakers?
[12:50] <bnD> yes, no*
[12:50] <Talisker> would issuing "apt-get remove totem" remove all of the related packages, like libs I need to run other stuff?
[12:50] <bob2> dreadnought: it's a one line command
[12:50] <bob2> Talisker: no
[12:50] <blackhat> Where is my wine config located?
[12:50] <bob52> does anyone have experience with moneydance under ubuntu?
[12:50] <dreadnought> bob2: huh?
[12:50] <bnD> bob2, new error is connection failed*
[12:50] <CosmoDad> fletch33: yeah Linux usually doesn't release mounted device unless you umount them
[12:50] <Talisker> and will it remove the mozilla plugin?
[12:50] <bob2> dreadnought: you are sucking out my will to live
[12:51] <bob2> blackhat: ~/
[12:51] <Agrajag> ahahahahahah
[12:51] <bob2> 10:49:28           bob2 | dreadnought: ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/, #flood
[12:51] <misfit_toy> bob2, just change your nick for an hour ;)
[12:51] <dreadnought> bob2: forgive my noobyness and my soulsucking capabiliteis
[12:51] <blackhat> bob2; im in ~/.wine
[12:51] <blackhat> and I don't see it
[12:51] <djk_> bob2: what does acpi=off mean and where do i set it?
[12:51] <CosmoDad> FrideF: if you use alsa, make sure any "sense" devices in alsamixer are active
[12:51] <blackhat> I see system.reg  user.reg  userdef.reg
[12:51] <fletch33> CosmoDad, cool thanks
[12:52] <bnD> dreadnought, type the command "ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ then paste the output to the irc channel #flood
[12:52] <bnD> minus that first quote lol
[12:52] <dreadnought> oh duh
[12:52] <CosmoDad> djk_: disable ACPI support, usually used in GRUB
[12:52] <misfit_toy> djk_, and why do you want to turn off ACPI?
[12:52] <blackhat> Wheres my wine config file?
[12:53] <blackhat> I've looked in ~/.wine
[12:53] <CosmoDad> djk_: misfit_toy is right, make sure you really wanna do that
[12:53] <Corin> how can i change root password in command-line?
[12:53] <misfit_toy> blackhat, las vegas, gambling
[12:53] <FrideF> CosmoDad, thanks.  I checked and don't see any "sense" item (like headphone sense or others like I've seen before)
[12:53] <bob2> bnD: ok, try pointing it at au.archive.ubuntu.com, then potinting it back at 82.211.81.182
[12:53] <gallonegro__> is there a way to make all torrents open only with azzures when i download through firefox?
[12:53] <djk_> misfit_toy: because bob2 suggested it due to it hanging on bootup at "starting hotplug subsystem" on an old laptop
[12:53] <bob2> Corin: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:53] <blackhat> there is no 'config' file anymore.
[12:53] <CosmoDad> FrideF: you saw them before but now they're gone?
[12:53] <piratePenguin> does the Ubuntu installation disk use GRUB for booting?
[12:53] <bob2> misfit_toy: because I suspect acpi/apic fuckage on his/her machine
[12:53] <bob2> piratePenguin: no, isolinux (afaik)
[12:53] <veloct> blackhat: type winecfg in console
[12:53] <bob2> piratePenguin: it does use grub to boot the hard disk
[12:53] <piratePenguin> bob2: ah, thanks
[12:53] <dreadnought> did u see it bob2?
[12:54] <misfit_toy> djk_, then add that to the end of your grub boot line when your system comes up..
[12:54] <bob2> Corin: you really don't want to modify it, tho
[12:54] <FrideF> CosmoDad, no, sorry.  On my old thinkpad I have seen them, but here I don't
[12:54] <Corin> ok
[12:54] <bnD> bob2, ok, one sec, thanks
[12:54] <bob2> dreadnought: does /home/andrew/Desktop/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so really exist?
[12:55] <misfit_toy> djk_, boot, hit f2 when the grub screen comes up, "e" to edit, add "acpi=no" at the end of the boot line, "enter" to accept the change.
[12:55] <CosmoDad> FrideF: if it's a different driver, it could be possible your current driver doesn't support sensing
[12:55] <djk_> misfit_toy: and what will the consequences be? it doesn't hang always, but just now 3 times in a row and then after 5 mins of the laptop turned off it booted again
[12:55] <dreadnought> i dunno bob2
[12:55] <CosmoDad> FrideF: what kind of driver is it?
[12:55] <ion> ithiel: it's all right man no problem I went the web page tahat you told
[12:55] <misfit_toy> djk_, you can always delete that entry and go back how it is now
[12:55] <test34> when I do apt-get update, I get this error--> GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40876EAF435D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>, what can I do to fix this ?
[12:55] <gallonegro__> is there a way to make all torrents open only with azzures when i download through firefox?
[12:56] <bob2> dreadnought: yes you do
[12:56] <bob2> adios
[12:56] <blackhat> if I am using wine in a 32 bit chroot and it wants freetype installed can I install it on my nonchroot and configure winecfg in chroot?
[12:56] <FrideF> CosmoDad, just a second while I check on the driver type
[12:56] <misfit_toy> lol, bob2 's soul is sucked
[12:56] <bnD> bob2, using "au.archive.ubuntu.com" same connection failed error.. and as well using "82.211.81.182"
[12:56] <gnomefreak> test34, its ok dont worry about it
[12:56] <dreadnought> ok lets just say it does bob2
[12:56] <gnomefreak> test34, it still updates right?
[12:56] <ithiel> ion, glad to be of service
[12:56] <bnD> aww, he left
[12:56] <misfit_toy> dreadnought, he's gone
[12:56] <Agrajag> dreadnought: jesus
[12:56] <djk_> misfit_toy: but what will the consequences of acpi=off be?
[12:57] <Agrajag> I have NEVER seen anyone do that to bob2
[12:57] <veloct> blackhat: give it a shot
[12:57] <dreadnought> who bob2
[12:57] <gnomefreak> bnD, take out au and add us see if that works
[12:57] <dreadnought> maybe he killed himself
[12:57] <gnomefreak> bob2 is gone
[12:57] <bnD> gnomefreak, ive tried au, us and "82.211.81.182"
[12:57] <misfit_toy> djk_, it will turn off ACPI, don't worry about it.
[12:57] <bnD> as well as no prefix to archive.ubuntu.com
[12:57] <dreadnought> is he now bob52?
[12:57] <djk_> misfit_toy: well yes, but what is acpi?
[12:57] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone here know if you can update the open office 2 beta to the latest version and if so how?
[12:57] <bnD> dreadnought, if he wanted to continue he would have, leave him be
[12:58] <test34> gnomefreak, I havent had any new updates for at least a week with breezy, is this normal ?
[12:58] <CosmoDad> djk_: enables energy savings and stuff like that
[12:58] <misfit_toy> djk: (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) is a power management specification that allows the operating system to control the amount of power distributed to the computer's devices
[12:58] <CosmoDad> djk_: like suspend-to-ram/-disk
[12:58] <gnomefreak> test34,  i was down for over 2 weeks so im not sure what there was
[12:58] <dreadnought> aughhh he was helpin he with a thiong ive been workin on forever now!
[12:58] <bnD> dreadnought, ask someone else
[12:58] <gnomefreak> test34,  can you run sudo apt-get upgrade?
[12:58] <khermans> Can someone tell me how nto reset my sound config to the default installation settings?  I just tried the Live CD and sound works fine on my IBM T42p, but its not working in my installation
[12:58] <dreadnought> aaaaaauuuuuugggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
[12:58] <misfit_toy> dreadnought, what color is your thong?
[12:58] <epic> how do one start the ssh daemon on the livecd?
[12:58] <dreadnought> thing ass
[12:59] <bnD> misfit_toy, ill bet its hot pink
[12:59] <djk_> CosmoDad: misfit_toy: thanks :)
[12:59] <ion> ithiel::)
[12:59] <test34> gnomefreak, yeah that doesnt give me any error.. but there is nothing to upgrade
[12:59] <misfit_toy> bnD, heh
[12:59] <misfit_toy> djk_, np
[12:59] <khermans> epic, /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[12:59] <bnD> anyone dealt with "connection failed" error using apt-get update?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> test34, is that the only repo causing issues?
[12:59] <bnD> proxy = off, iptables = clear
[12:59] <bnD> :/
[12:59] <test34> gnomefreak, yes
[12:59] <popey> warnings from apt-get update, are they a faq?
[12:59] <blackhat> if wine wants me to enable freetype fonts how can I do this>?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> can you paste your sources list in pastebin test34
[12:59] <epic> thanks khermans :)
[12:59] <dreadnought> sdafr e
[01:00] <test34> gnomefreak, ok just a sec
[01:00] <gnomefreak> ty test34
[01:00] <dreadnought> i want to kill whoever invented linux
[01:00] <heinzanova> I am having an issue with ndiswrapper, I do the sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/warren/wireless/bcmwl5.inf and then the modprobe ndiswrapper, but am still not having any luck having the networking card appearing the network configuration
[01:00] <bnD> dreadnought, :O!
[01:00] <dreadnought> gates is now my god
[01:00] <blackhat> dreadnought, linus torvalds would kill you first.
[01:00] <khermans> Anyone know how to reset SOUND configs back to initial installation settings?
[01:00] <dreadnought> its so pissin me offf
[01:00] <bnD> dreadnought, go download windows xp home off of bearshare and f off then ;)
[01:00] <blackhat> Anyway, how can I configure my wine to freetype font library because it wants it?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> dreadnought, if you dont like it than calm down and either uninstall it or work with it but please stop bringing everyone else down
[01:00] <dreadnought> i did and it bsoded
[01:01] <Agrajag> dreadnought: I will give you ONE shot. ONE.
[01:01] <dreadnought> or i would be usin it
[01:01] <Agrajag> now.
[01:01] <triplah> dreadnought = troll? :>
[01:01] <bnD> dreadnought, maybe you should buy a pocket calculator..or a dell or something
[01:01] <bnD> ;)
[01:01] <Agrajag> Are you trying to install java?
[01:01] <dreadnought> well ill kill java then
[01:01] <dreadnought> yes
[01:01] <CosmoDad> khermans: not sure, but maybe moving /var/lib/asound.state away from that directory and restarting alsa might help..
[01:01] <dreadnought> and its really pissin me off
[01:01] <Agrajag> dreadnought: did you read the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?
[01:01] <gnomefreak> someone teach him how to enable multi and send him to synaptic
[01:01] <blackhat> Anyway, how can I configure my wine to freetype font library because it wants it?
[01:01] <popey> I get this when i do apt-get update... "W: GPG error: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[01:01] <popey> "
[01:01] <popey> any ideas?
[01:02] <test34> gnomefreak, http://pastebin.com/428420
[01:02] <khermans> CosmoDad, i dont see that file
[01:02] <dreadnought> agrajag HTEY DONT WORK FOR ME OBVOIUSLY
[01:02] <khermans> CosmoDad, oh its under alsa
[01:02] <test34> gnomefreak, I didn't manually edit it.. I just added universe multiverse from synaptic
[01:02] <bnD> popey, try going to settings/repositories/authentication and restore default keys
[01:02] <denton> where is the compilecache normally located?
[01:02] <misfit_toy> dreadnought, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76754
[01:03] <CosmoDad> khermans: sorry my fault
[01:03] <bnD> dreadnought, calm down with the caps big guy
[01:03] <Agrajag> dreadnought: chill the hell out.
[01:03] <popey> thanks bnD
[01:03] <dreadnought> auhgghg
[01:03] <bnD> popey, any luck?
[01:03] <heinzanova> am I doing something wrong? because the wireless card isn't showing up in networking  : warren@blackbox:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/warren/wireless/bcmwl5.inf
[01:03] <heinzanova> Password:
[01:03] <heinzanova>  Installing bcmwl5
[01:03] <heinzanova> warren@blackbox:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:03] <Agrajag> dreadnought: how do they not work?
[01:03] <Agrajag> Where do those instructions fail?
[01:03] <popey> bnD: I use apt on the command line so wouldn't have thought of that
[01:03] <khermans> CosmoDad, what does that really do?
[01:03] <dreadnought> im gonna put a foot through my monitor
[01:03] <bnD> popey, ah
[01:03] <gnomefreak> test why are so many commented out?
[01:03] <CosmoDad> khermans: it's the configuration file for alsa
[01:04] <blackhat> how can I configure my wine to freetype font library because it wants it?
[01:04] <Agrajag> dreadnought: I'm going to put a foot through your ass if you don't take your ritalin or whatever it is you need to do to calm down and listen.
[01:04] <FrideF> CosmoDad, I'm using the alsa driver, it's a *gasp* ATI chipset ...some sort of itx ac'97 something
[01:04] <CosmoDad> khermans: it includes mixer settings, maybe some other stuff, I was just guessing
[01:04] <misfit_toy> dreadnought, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76754
[01:04] <khermans> CosmoDad, seems like /etc/init.d/alsa restart is deprecated
[01:04] <gnomefreak> test34, it looks like your universe is commented out
[01:04] <epic> hmm, does the 5.10 livecd have any sshd server?
[01:04] <CosmoDad> FrideF: lsmod|grep snd , what's the top device?
[01:04] <dreadnought> im tryin misfits i never seen thaty one
[01:04] <Agrajag> haha
[01:04] <FrideF>  /etc/init.d/alsa-utils
[01:04] <CosmoDad> khermans: yeah you use alsa-utils
[01:04] <CosmoDad> khermans: as FrideF said
[01:05] <denton> does anyone know where g++ and gcc's cache is?
[01:05] <bnD> anyone have a recommendation for a "connection failed" error on apt-get update? no proxy and iptables cleared
[01:05] <epic> can i find a list of the packages included in the ubuntu livecd/dvd?
[01:05] <bnD> har @ misfit_toy
[01:05] <wegstar> bob2: integrity check shows that the disk is fine...
[01:05] <dreadnought> 64%
[01:06] <gnomefreak> test34,  take the # away from the universe repos
[01:06] <misfit_toy> bnD, only on apt-get? no other network issues?
[01:06] <gnomefreak> than try it
[01:06] <mindtzar> hey, could someone kinda help me insatll GCC? I've download the right files and when I go to configure I get this error, /tmp/cNf8287/cNf8287.pos: line 8: cc: command not found
[01:06] <ptlo> heya, people, could anyone tell me any package that resides in multiverse? i'm trying to detect the repository from Section field of the pkg control file, but for example gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg (which i guess goes in multiverse) says 'Section: universe/libs'
[01:06] <bnD> misfit_toy, correct
[01:06] <dreadnought> 86%
[01:06] <gnomefreak> mindtzar, the command cc isnt a good command
[01:06] <bnD> epic, on the CD open this file:
[01:06] <test34> gnomefreak, I did and still get the same error
[01:06] <redguy> mindtzar: try sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[01:06] <bnD> on the CD open this file
[01:06] <bnD> hrm
[01:06] <Agrajag> ptlo: unrar-nonfree is in multiverse
[01:06] <misfit_toy> bnD, so you can ping your router and everything else...did you try an apt-get clean all
[01:07] <mindtzar> okay redguy
[01:07] <CosmoDad> bnD: does an apt-get update work?
[01:07] <bnD> on the CD open this file  "casper/filesystem.manifest"
[01:07] <redguy> mindtzar: and you'll get gcc with that
[01:07] <bnD> CosmoDad, nope
[01:07] <gnomefreak> test34,  you saved it than ran sudo apt-get update?
[01:07] <ptlo> Agrajag, thanks!
[01:07] <fanopnaic> ptlo: j2sdk1.4
[01:07] <bnD> epic ^
[01:07] <test34> gnomefreak, yes
[01:07] <CosmoDad> bnD: your sources.list isn't screwed or something?
[01:07] <epic> damn, is there no sshd server on the live cd??
[01:07] <bnD> CosmoDad, ive changed it several times
[01:07] <epic> lmao
[01:07] <bnD> to us. au. and no prefix to the ip's
[01:07] <Bofia> hey
[01:08] <ptlo> fanopnaic, tnx
[01:08] <CosmoDad> bnD: using the default one too?
[01:08] <gnomefreak> ok test34  can i have the error again please
[01:08] <djk_> how do i delete a ppp connection i've created with pppoeconf?
[01:08] <obscurite> hello
[01:08] <Bofia> is it safe to make a swapfile on an NTFS partition?
[01:08] <redguy> mindtzar: you might try sudo apt-get install gcc-4.0 if you want gcc 4.0
[01:08] <obscurite> Anyone know how to make the gsfonts-x11 font bigger in flash? the default font is way too small
[01:08] <Agrajag> Bofia: no, writing to NTFS is risky
[01:08] <declan> little question: I can't get ooffice2 impress to animate the phrases of a text box.  With ooffice1 this was done in a through a dialogue called text effects, or something. This is now gone.  Does anyone know how it is now to be done, short of adding an effect to each individual line?
[01:08] <bnD> CosmoDad, yes that too :/
[01:08] <Janbanan> I wan't to replace my forms.css in the mozilla-firefox dir. But I don't have the access to do that it says
[01:09] <blackhat> how can I configure my wine to freetype font library because it wants it?
[01:09] <mindtzar> redguy, I just do that in the synaptic package manager?
[01:09] <test34> gnomefreak, W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures wer e invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[01:09] <mindtzar> or from console
[01:09] <bnD> CosmoDad, i thought it was an issue with proxy i was running, however that made no difference, and ive tried several different mirrors, i can open them all just fine from mozilla
[01:09] <redguy> mindtzar: you might do it there as well
[01:09] <triplah> how would i see what module my dial up modem is using?
[01:09] <bulio> will ubuntu detect a wireless USB adapter?
[01:09] <triplah> i think its limited to 14.4 but the ubuntu install
[01:09] <bnD> brb, need a smoke
[01:10] <misfit_toy> bnD, you said you didn't have a proxy!
[01:10] <bnD> misfit_toy, i did, however it has been stopped
[01:10] <khermans> My sound is still not working!
[01:10] <bnD> so now i dont :)
[01:10] <obscurite> has anyone else noticed that the font in the linux flash player is small?
[01:10] <bimberi> bulio: check here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[01:10] <redguy> mindtzar: it doesn't matter if you do it in synaptic, aptitude or apt-get.
[01:11] <mindtzar> thanks redguy
[01:11] <mindtzar> it's working now
[01:11] <gnomefreak> test34, give me a min to set mine up and ill give you a copy of mine to replace yours i have no errors
[01:11] <CosmoDad> khermans: check alsamixer. Are those devices unmuted?
[01:11] <redguy> np mindtzar
[01:11] <mindtzar> thanks very very much :)
[01:11] <khermans> CosmoDad, yes
[01:11] <veloct> night folks
[01:11] <dreadnought> ok lets try it!
[01:11] <CosmoDad> khermans: what's the error? does it play but you get no output, or any particular error message?
[01:12] <obscurite> Maybe it's just this one flash application that's too small. someone tell me i'm not crazy.
[01:12] <khermans> yes, like in totem i have an OGG going
[01:12] <khermans> but no sound comes out
[01:12] <khermans> CosmoDad, i hear computer beeps like when i TAB in bash, but no sound
[01:12] <bnD> anyone know what port aptitude uses?
[01:12] <dreadnought> aaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuuuggggghhhhhhh WHY WONT IT WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:12] <CosmoDad> bnD: 80 ?
[01:12] <test34> gnomefreak, I think it might be authentification key problem ?
[01:12] <khermans> CosmoDad, it worked on the Live CD
[01:12] <bnD> CosmoDad, thanks
[01:12] <Janbanan> How do I change the persmission on a dir so I can change the files in it?
[01:12] <bnD> dreadnought, because it doesnt like your capslocking ways ;P
[01:13] <obscurite> oh well, i'll assume i'm crazy for now
[01:13] <mindtzar> Janbanan, chmod 0777 dirname
[01:13] <mindtzar> :)
[01:13] <obscurite> thanks anyways
[01:13] <CosmoDad> Janbanan: right-click on it using nautilus, permissions
[01:13] <misfit_toy> dreadnought, log out and back in, just to make certain
[01:13] <Janbanan> thanks
[01:13] <zblach> hi. i had a plugin for xmms that would display media data on my desktop. what was it called again?
[01:13] <dreadnought> not in the mood bnD
[01:13] <misfit_toy> brb
[01:13] <mindtzar> Setting up gcc-4.0 (4.0.1-4ubuntu9) ...
[01:13] <mindtzar> mindtzar@ubuntu:~$ gcc
[01:13] <mindtzar> bash: gcc: command not found
[01:13] <bnD> YAY!
[01:13] <CosmoDad> khermans: maybe the live CD does a different setup..
[01:13] <mindtzar> how come gcc isn't working there?
[01:13] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.com/428433 test34
[01:13] <mindtzar> i take it I have to do something else now?
[01:13] <khermans> Any ideas how to get sound working in that case
[01:13] <gnomefreak> lol bnd
[01:13] <mllr> exit
[01:14] <mllr> oops
[01:14] <Agrajag> oh thank god, we can all talk about him behind his back
[01:14] <Drees> hello people
[01:14] <Talisker> err... could you help me? I'm trying to watch those videos that are available online at either Real or QuickTime
[01:14] <khermans> CosmoDad, can't i do an apt remove alsa, then reinstall ?
[01:14] <CosmoDad> khermans: you could try "reinstall"
[01:14] <khermans> and make apt forget all the old configs?
[01:14] <Talisker> I can't get them to play using the mplayer plugin, for some unknown reason
[01:14] <CosmoDad> khermans: don't know if it helps, but try
[01:14] <jah_raztah> is there an application ot make graphics for math class, like if i tell the programa  function and some other paramenter like range and domain e.t.c it'll make the graph for me
[01:14] <CosmoDad> khermans: did you play with your alsa setting somehow?
[01:14] <gnomefreak> brb gonna update my site on breezy sources
[01:14] <CosmoDad> khermans: include alsa-base, alsa-utils too
[01:14] <bnD> ok guys, when i have the squid proxy running, i get the error "(stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
[01:14] <bnD> " when i dont have the proxy running i get a connection failed error, someoen enlighten me ;)
[01:14] <OgMaciel> I have a question about the karma you get at launchpad... can someone lend me a hand?  My karma keeps decreasing even though I keep contributing with my translations
[01:14] <khermans> CosmoDad, i think i did before I realized the problem
[01:15] <test34> gnomefreak, I get the same error
[01:15] <dreadnought> ok now i officially have to go kill myself
[01:15] <bnD> yay hes back
[01:15] <dreadnought> or someone at java
[01:15] <bnD> did you smoke a cigarette dreadnought ?
[01:15] <mindtzar> redguy, It's finished with the installing part
[01:15] <bnD> :)
[01:15] <redguy> mindtzar: try "gcc-4.0", did you install build-essentials as well? AFAIR the default gcc version is 3.4 and it is brought in as a dependancy od build-essentials
[01:16] <mindtzar> okay
[01:16] <triplah> is there somehwere in ubuntu that i can set the speed that a dial up modem would be running at?
[01:16] <dreadnought> i might smoke a joint
[01:16] <triplah> somewhere that isnt in a gui tool
[01:16] <khermans> CosmoDad, what should the Multimedia Systems Selectr be set to?
[01:16] <NanoBCN28> Guys, you have to help me on this. There is a "parse" error in "/etc/sudoers" and now I cannot do any sudo operation
[01:16] <NanoBCN28> what can I do?
[01:16] <bnD> NanoBCN28, EEK!
[01:16] <bimberi> NanoBCN28: boot into recovery mode and fix the file
[01:16] <dreadnought> is there any one in upstate ny to help me
[01:16] <dreadnought> New York
[01:16] <OgMaciel> MarioMeyer hehehe...  pode deixar
[01:17] <bnD> gotta go dig a hole, ill come back and complain some more later
[01:17] <nebular> when running bootcdwrite I get and error The initrd file is no Compressed ROM File System. anyone have any idea what's going on?
[01:17] <dreadnought> for me?
[01:17] <CosmoDad> khermans: esd is default
[01:17] <zblach> anyone have that plugin still? i had to replatform
[01:17] <NanoBCN28> bimberi, thanks for the advise, I'll try that.
[01:17] <CosmoDad> khermans: I'd recommend installing alsaplayer-esd and try playing an mp3 through alsaplayer and esound
[01:17] <hypn0> triplah, i'm guessing u got crippled free conexant driver :-)
[01:17] <OgMaciel> MarioMeyer ja tem o meu cloak?
[01:17] <mindtzar> redguy, gcc-4.0 works. but the things i'm installing that need GCC don't detect it. I guess thats because the command "gcc" wont work?
[01:17] <bimberi> NanoBCN28: np :)
[01:17] <david1980> dear friends, just a simple question
[01:17] <dreadnought> so theres nothing else i can do
[01:17] <Agrajag> dreadnought: why does it matter where they arre
[01:18] <triplah> hypn0: oh so they package that with ubuntu do they?
[01:18] <NanoBCN28> bimberi, never logged in in recovery mode, anything I have to know before I do it?
[01:18] <dreadnought> so they can help me direct in my house
[01:18] <triplah> damn
[01:18] <Agrajag> dreadnought: yes, there is. What you need to do, is tell us where you are having a problem.
[01:18] <dreadnought> cause obviously all u can help secessfully
[01:18] <OgMaciel> anyone here knows about Launchpads karma?
[01:18] <triplah> i need to make sure its a connexant chip, where would i find out what sort of modem it it? which module should i look for?
[01:18] <dreadnought> ive done that
[01:18] <redguy> mindtzar: propably. Do you need gcc 4.0?
[01:18] <Agrajag> dreadnought: what are you, a serial killer?
[01:18] <OgMaciel> MarioMeyer eu tinha linkado
[01:18] <dreadnought> nothing seems to work
[01:19] <dreadnought> sometimes i would like to be
[01:19] <OgMaciel> MarioMeyer tenta o GnuKemist
[01:19] <Agrajag> dreadnought: tell us again, because bob2 gave up. Start over. I told you I would try, once.
[01:19] <bimberi> NanoBCN28: it should boot to a root shell, then you can run "visudo" and fix the file.  BTW, somewhat perversely, visudo runs the nano editor
[01:19] <dreadnought> like now
[01:19] <mindtzar> redguy, well not 4.0, but 3.0?
[01:19] <redguy> mindtzar: if not, you might uninstall gcc-4.0 and install build-essentials
[01:19] <mindtzar> will i try with 3.0
[01:19] <NanoBCN28> thanks again, bimberi
[01:19] <redguy> mindtzar: gcc will be brought in with build-essentials
[01:19] <dreadnought> i need to put java runtime enviro on my linux pc
[01:19] <dreadnought> god
[01:19] <Agrajag> dreadnought: ok.
[01:19] <bimberi> NanoBCN28: good luck :)
[01:19] <dreadnought> ya know im gona break
[01:20] <Agrajag> dreadnought: go here, in a browser: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
[01:20] <zblach> no one?
[01:20] <OgMaciel> MarioMeyer o Seveas falou que talvez quarta-feira
[01:20] <dreadnought> cya in about an hour and a half
[01:20] <Agrajag> dreadnought: I'd be willing to bet you will break me first.
[01:20] <NanoBCN28> thanks
[01:20] <dreadnought> tell me when i come back
[01:20] <Agrajag> But I'll try.
[01:20] <dreadnought> not u linus hehe
[01:20] <triplah> crc_ccitt   <--- would this be the connexant driver?
[01:20] <dreadnought> bye
[01:20] <mindtzar> redguy, sorry to sound like an idiot. but how di i build the essentials? it's command line arguement
[01:20] <mindtzar> ?
[01:20] <OgMaciel> MarioMeyer pra mim isso?
[01:20] <gnomefreak> !tell test34 about gpg
[01:20] <misfit_toy> Agrajag, I gave him a link with explicit instructions, if he can't do that then he's just missing something and it will never work.
[01:21] <redguy> mindtzar: no, no install the package 'build-essentials'
[01:21] <liquidboy> in 5.04, what packagge do i install to be able to play mp3s etc?
[01:21] <redguy> mindtzar: with synaptic or whatever you prefer
[01:21] <CosmoDad> khermans: what comes up in my mind: did you create an /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc that you screwed?
[01:21] <Agrajag> misfit_toy: if he actually tells someone what the problem is we might be able to help.
[01:21] <funbags> Has anyoned added a extra drive to a raid 5 conifg to make it large?
[01:21] <funbags> *larger
[01:21] <HrdwrBoB> funbags: yes
[01:21] <khermans> CosmoDad, dont think so, but when i got frustrated, i tried a bunch of things like the HoarySoundProblems guide on the wiki
[01:21] <gnomefreak> test34,  follow instructions that ubotu gave you
[01:21] <Talisker> err... could you help me? I'm trying to watch those videos that are available online at either Real or QuickTime
[01:22] <khermans> nothing worked
[01:22] <Talisker> I can't get them to play using the mplayer plugin, for some unknown reason
[01:22] <gnomefreak> test34, that should clear it up
[01:22] <Talisker> could any of you try to stream them and tell me if it worked?
[01:22] <funbags> HrdwrBoB: hard to do?
[01:22] <bimberi> liquidboy: gstreamer0.8-lame (in multiverse)
[01:22] <Talisker> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html <-- in here
[01:22] <liquidboy> bimberi, thanks
[01:22] <bimberi> liquidboy: np :)
[01:22] <CosmoDad> khermans: if you have one, remove it for testing
[01:23] <HrdwrBoB> funbags: yes
[01:23] <sexcopter8000m> is it possible to edit the menues in gnome? not the "Applications" menu, but rather the "System" menu?
[01:23] <CosmoDad> khermans: did you try playing with alsaplayer through esd while having the multimedia selector set to esd as well?
[01:23] <funbags> HrdwrBoB: you using LVM also or?
[01:23] <jbalreira> hi
[01:23] <khermans> CosmoDad, yeah didnt work -- no sound -- see the file is playing
[01:23] <david1980> I dear friends
[01:24] <khermans> CosmoDad, i assume that ESD implies that I have ESD selected in MMS
[01:24] <david1980> i want to know how i can have a program remote asistance software, like VNC
[01:24] <gnomefreak> bnD, were you getting the gpg error also on apt-get update?
[01:24] <khermans> multimedia systems selector
[01:24] <mindtzar> redguy
[01:24] <CosmoDad> khermans: true
[01:24] <mindtzar> mindtzar@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get build-essentials
[01:24] <mindtzar> E: Invalid operation build-essentials
[01:24] <gnomefreak> mindtzar, no s
[01:24] <redguy> mindtzar: :-)
[01:24] <jbalreira> I have a fresh install of Ubuntu Linux 5.10 The Breezy Badger. When I install an 686-smp-kernel, i get general lag during boot and working on Gnome. With 386 kernel, everything works fine
[01:24] <CosmoDad> khermans: if that doesn't work, disable ESD and try to route everything to basic alsa
[01:24] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get build-essential
[01:24] <Kovecses> mindtzar, apt-get install build-essential
[01:24] <jbalreira> does anybody know why?
[01:25] <fadumpt> does anyone know where I could find the minimum requirements for ubuntu?
[01:25] <Kovecses> mindtzar, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:25] <CosmoDad> khermans: what's your sound module? lsmod, it starts with snd-
[01:25] <yubimusubi> I just installed an Ubuntu system on a computer on my network...and it has no DHCP
[01:25] <redguy> mindtzar: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[01:25] <cyrre> someone got the default sources.list?
[01:25] <Kovecses> fadumpt, on their website
[01:25] <khermans> CosmoDad, you mean select Alsa instead of ESD in the MSS?
[01:25] <khermans> k
[01:25] <bimberi> david1980: ubuntu comes with a vnc client (Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client) and server (System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop)
[01:25] <CosmoDad> khermans: correct
[01:25] <fadumpt> Kovecses, do you know this for a fact or are you assuming it's listed there?
[01:25] <Kovecses> fadumpt, i know for a fact
[01:25] <khermans> CosmoDad, snd-intel8x0
[01:25] <cyrre> !sources.list
[01:25] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:25] <CosmoDad> khermans: same here...
[01:25] <fadumpt> okay Kovecses
[01:25] <gnomefreak> cyrre,  what do you mean default sources?
[01:25] <zdennis_> hey all, is there a way to get the "pin" icon in the upper left hand corner of a window, similar to how it is in KDE ?
[01:26] <zdennis_> but in gnome?
[01:26] <etam> hi, where is wep configuration file?
[01:26] <bimberi> cyrre: there you go - self service :)
[01:26] <khermans> CosmoDad, theres a whole bunch of pother dependent modules too
[01:26] <CosmoDad> khermans: did you try http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=743553ff8d641e79e64da071158ff85c&t=32063&highlight=sound+breezy+hear ?
[01:26] <Kovecses> zdennis_, what is the pin icon?
[01:26] <mindtzar> thanks so much for the help guys
[01:26] <CosmoDad> khermans: I use a snd-intel8x0 too and that HOWTO works perfectly to me
[01:26] <mindtzar> :)
[01:26] <zdennis_> Kovecses, it locks the current window so it shows up on all workspaces
[01:27] <zdennis_> without having to right click on the title and navigate the menu
[01:27] <lancer285> can anyone help me w/ my ipod?? How do I access it w/ Ubuntu?
[01:27] <jbalreira> why do i get general lag during boot and working on gnome when I install an 686-smp-kernel???
[01:27] <brownie17> bob2 i am trying to write a very simple c program, just to learn the basics, but i am having a little trouble. i am trying to write a command line converter for celsius to fahrenheit.
[01:27] <brownie17> lancer285, rhythmbox
[01:27] <liquidboy> bimberi, it couldn't find it. btw, i'm not using 5.10, i'm using 5.04 if that matters
[01:27] <Kovecses> jbalreira, i use that kernel without a problem
[01:27] <fadumpt> thanks Kovecses, I found it
[01:27] <Kovecses> fadumpt, np
[01:27] <bimberi> liquidboy: hm
[01:27] <lancer285> brownie17, I don't see any options for ipod in rhythmbox. should I reinstall it?
[01:28] <bimberi> !info gstreamer0.8-lame hoary
[01:28] <redguy> jbalreira: you got multiple processors?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> here is a complete working list of breezy sources http://www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc/linux.htm
[01:28] <jbalreira> Kovecses, did you installed any extra packages or something?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> instructions are there too
[01:28] <bulio> I have a USB wireless adapter to connect to my router
[01:28] <thrush> lancer285: also install gtkpod
[01:28] <bulio> will Ubuntu live detect it alright, or no?
[01:28] <yubimusubi> I just installed an Ubuntu system on a computer on my network...and it has no DHCP...anyway, I've no luck googling,, or asking my debian savvy friends.
[01:28] <jbalreira> redguy, no. I have an pentium 4 with HyperThreathing
[01:28] <mindtzar> bulio, so do I
[01:28] <brownie17> lancer285, no, there should be an ipod mention in the "cource" list
[01:28] <yubimusubi> Any help?
[01:28] <Kovecses> jbalreira, i get the ... linux-image linux-headers... linux-restricted-modules..... how many processors do you have?
[01:28] <brownie17> lancer285, no, there should be an ipod mention in the "source***" list
[01:28] <lancer285> thrush,  okay thanks
[01:28] <mindtzar> ubuntu seems to work fine with it
[01:29] <lancer285> brownie17, okay, thanks
[01:29] <jbalreira> Kovecses, no multiple processors, just HyperThreathing
[01:29] <bulio> mindtzar: how do I setup WEP in it?
[01:29] <liquidboy> bimberi, in 4.10 there was a package that had the word 'codecs' in it, i think
[01:29] <Kovecses> jbalreira, ok thats cool.... yeah i dont know why you get lag
[01:29] <mindtzar> bulio, are you using ubuntu right now?
[01:29] <bulio> in Ubuntu live, that is
[01:29] <gnomefreak> w32codects?
[01:29] <brownie17> who here can have a quick look at a simple line of C code, and tell me what i did wrong?
[01:29] <liquidboy> gnomefreak, yep
[01:29] <mindtzar> well, there should be a network icon
[01:29] <gnomefreak> -t
[01:29] <mindtzar> if you right click on that
[01:29] <bulio> may I PM?
[01:30] <mindtzar> sure
[01:30] <jbalreira> Kovecses, the strange is that with the normal kernel, everything works fast
[01:30] <sw0> hi
[01:30] <Kovecses> jbalreira, do you have the hyperthreading set up in your bios
[01:30] <liquidboy> hmm, that didnt work either :(
[01:30] <Lord_Maynoth> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89926
[01:30] <sw0> test
[01:30] <Lord_Maynoth> what do you guys think of my post
[01:30] <NanoBCN28> bimberi, just logged in to thank you. It worked ok.
[01:30] <Lord_Maynoth> ?
[01:30] <cfa> rawtek u there
[01:30] <jbalreira> Kovecses, yeah
[01:31] <gnomefreak> !tell liquidboy about w32codecs
[01:31] <bimberi> liquidboy: you're right, no package in hoary :/
[01:31] <bimberi> NanoBCN28: great :)
[01:31] <Talisker> that's weird, I issued apt-get remove totem
[01:31] <bulio> mindtzar: you around?
[01:31] <Talisker> but totem is still here
[01:31] <ithiel> gnomefreak, you can start by addressing the bot by his proper name instead of using draconian commands, thank you.
[01:31] <bulio> so a USB wireless adpater should work fine?
[01:31] <sw0> more test
[01:31] <jbalreira> Kovecses, when I boot with the smp kernel, the boot acts very strange with some pause's
[01:31] <bulio> I'll try it
[01:31] <gnomefreak> i can type ubotu tell instead of the !?
[01:31] <bimberi> liquidboy: geez, everything i find is breezy specific :/
[01:32] <ithiel> gnomefreak, yes.
[01:32] <Lord_Maynoth> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89926
[01:32] <liquidboy> yeah :/
[01:32] <ithiel> ubotu tell gnomefreak about ubotu
[01:32] <gnomefreak> sorry wasnt aware of that
[01:32] <mindtzar> hey gnomefreak. see to install glib, what would i put as the package name?
[01:32] <ithiel> its ok
[01:32] <ithiel> I've always addressed him by name though
[01:32] <brownie17> Lord_Maynoth, yeah i like the post. i would definatly go for option 5.
[01:33] <jbalreira> Kovecses,  well.. this is only hapening on 5.10 breezy. I think I'll wait for next release to install my smp kernel
[01:33] <gnomefreak> i hate to be picky but that site says to do it either way
[01:33] <ithiel> gnomefreak, thats fine but it is discourteous to the bot
[01:33] <ithiel> and I don't appreciate that :|
[01:33] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:33] <ithiel> people abuse ubotu enough
[01:34] <brownie17> Lord_Maynoth, but i don't like option 6. i feel that if there ever becomes a paid version, then the free version will always be second best to it, and all time and effort will go to the paid one. keep it all free. no enterprise edition extra charges is one committment ubuntu made when they started.
[01:34] <Kovecses> jbalreira, how did you install the kernel
[01:35] <brownie17> ithiel, hahaha, did you not realise the subtle mention of "bot" in his name? coming from the word "robot"?
[01:35] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell mindtzar about restrictedformats
[01:35] <gallonegro__> is there a way to make all torrents open only with azzures when i download through firefox?
[01:36] <ithiel> brownie17, do I care?
[01:36] <ithiel> brownie17, I referred to him as a bot.
[01:36] <brownie17> ithiel, i was just kidding. calm down
[01:36] <ithiel> brownie17, he's still a helpful member of this channel and has answered many questions, more than you have I imagine
[01:36] <yubimusubi> Hey, can anyone tell me how to get this Ubuntu system to recognize DHCP?
[01:36] <ithiel> dhclient
[01:36] <yubimusubi> ithiel: it's not working
[01:36] <misfit_toy> oh god, we're defending the bot now?
[01:36] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:37] <ithiel> yubimusubi, ifconfig?
[01:37] <gnomefreak> <<keeps mouth shut most of time i know better
[01:37] <ithiel> misfit_toy, got a problem with it?
[01:37] <yubimusubi> ithiel: I've tried ifconfig eth0 up
[01:37] <yubimusubi> No luck
[01:37] <misfit_toy> ithiel, I have no problem with anything you do in life, not my issue.
[01:37] <gnomefreak> night all
[01:37] <ithiel> ubotu tell yubimusubi about dhcp
[01:38] <ithiel> ubotu dhclient
[01:38] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, ithiel
[01:38] <ithiel> ubotu eth0
[01:38] <ubotu> ithiel: Wish i knew
[01:38] <ithiel> *sighs*.
[01:38] <ithiel> ubotu ifconfig
[01:38] <ubotu> I don't know, ithiel
[01:38] <yubimusubi> ithiel: dhclient outputs something like DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
[01:38] <bulio_Lap> hi
[01:38] <bulio_Lap> how can I tell if Ubuntu recognizes my USB wireless adapter?
[01:39] <ithiel> plug it in, call us in the morning
[01:39] <NightVision> how do i change permissions on my ntfs partitions so i can mount them?
[01:39] <bulio_Lap> Its in
[01:39] <bulio_Lap> I''m on my laptop atm
[01:39] <misfit_toy> bulio_Lap, what adapter
[01:39] <bulio_Lap> USB adapter, so I can connect to my wireless router
[01:39] <bulio_Lap> Made by SMC
[01:40] <yubimusubi> ithiel: My router is a gentoo box, by the way.
[01:40] <thrush> NightVision: example sudo mount -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 is that what u were refering to ?
[01:40] <NanoBCN28> bulio_Lap, well, dmesg will give you useful info after you plug it in
[01:40] <NightVision> ok
[01:40] <misfit_toy> bulio_Lap, you need to know the specific adapter model/make/#
[01:40] <bulio_Lap> in term -> dmsg?
[01:40] <NightVision> i didn't know beacuse there is no root
[01:40] <NightVision> in ubuntu
[01:40] <lancer285> does anyone here have an ipod??
[01:41] <bulio_Lap> ok
[01:41] <ithiel> I wish, could you send me one?
[01:41] <bulio_Lap> typing that in ubuntu terminal now
[01:41] <misfit_toy> bulio_Lap, unplug it, open a term, type "sudo tail -f /var/log/messages" then plug it back in and see what it says
[01:41] <bulio_Lap> this is ubuntu live btw
[01:42] <bulio_Lap> no such file
[01:42] <misfit_toy> bulio_Lap, yeah, if you're on a live cd you won't have that
[01:42] <kevman> Hey, I have a WLAN NIC here. its being detected and used, but scans do not find any networks.
[01:42] <kevman> Does anyone have any advice?
[01:42] <misfit_toy> bulio_Lap, no idea how to fix anything from a live cd
[01:42] <misfit_toy> sorry
[01:42] <liquidboy> bimberi, i got it to work, there wasn't an entry exactly called what i was looking for, but i jus looked through all the other gstreamer entries untill i found one that looked like it would work, and it did
[01:43] <jrsims> OK, here's a quick and easy one (I think) - how can I view which apache modules I have installed?
[01:43] <Janbanan> I'm trying to install flashplayer for mozilla by running ~$ sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla. Get this message E: Could noy find package flashplayer-mozilla
[01:43] <Janbanan> not
[01:43] <bimberi> liquidboy: great :), which one was it?
[01:43] <bulio_Lap> is there a cmd to see what USB devices are plugged in?
[01:44] <bimberi> bulio_Lap: lsusb
[01:44] <bulio_Lap> ok
[01:44] <bulio_Lap> Askey computer corp on dev 003
[01:44] <MisterFarts> oh cool
[01:44] <MisterFarts> there is an ubuntu server release
[01:44] <MisterFarts> excellent
[01:45] <bulio_Lap> hmm
[01:46] <bulio_Lap> what would i use to see if linux recognizes it?
[01:46] <liquidboy> bimberi, looking
[01:46] <bimberi> liquidboy: k :)
[01:46] <bulio_Lap> anyone?
[01:46] <liquidboy> bimberi, gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[01:47] <bulio_Lap> it sees the devices
[01:47] <iratsu> how can i burn the ubuntu iso from the terminal?
[01:47] <bulio_Lap> but I'm not sure as what
[01:47] <MisterFarts> iratsu, man cdrecord
[01:47] <bimberi> liquidboy: ah, (for my own knowledgebase) - thanks!
[01:48] <liquidboy> sweet
[01:48] <liquidboy> :P
[01:48] <thrush> Janbanan: u probably need to add multiverse either in synaptic or just by editing your sources.list file see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:48] <NightVision> ok its mounted how do i change permissions so i can look @ it?
[01:48] <bimberi> bulio_Lap: does "iwconfig" show anything (other than "no wireless extensions.")
[01:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> is reiser4 supposed to be stable now?
[01:49] <thrush> NightVision: if u included umask option u should be able to access it
[01:49] <NightVision> it says its already mounted
[01:49] <triplah> BROKEN_LADDER: they've been saying that for a while, its still breaking epoples systems
[01:50] <Tom39Away> Is there a ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso.torrent available?
[01:50] <MisterFarts> Tom39Away, why do you need a torrent ?
[01:50] <MisterFarts> Tom39Away, the mirrors are plenty fast
[01:50] <interspec> hey all
[01:50] <thrush> NightVision: wont let u in the directory?
[01:50] <Tom39Away> Figured I'd help others download, etc.
[01:51] <MisterFarts> Tom39Away, i was getting 700K/sec from one the mirrors
[01:51] <Whity> This is most likely a stupid question, but it fustrating the hell out of me (i've tried ubuntu wiki/forums and google). I am trying to get the nvidia drivers to pick up my tv-out
[01:51] <Dasnipa`> any way to tell what command invokes an app you just installed with apt ? for instance i installed the program "attal" but the obvious command 'attal' doesnt start the app
[01:51] <triplah> aye, torrents are about helping others too
[01:51] <MisterFarts> i think they have plenty of bandwidth right now :)
[01:51] <NightVision> it says i dont have permissions
[01:51] <Tom39Away> MisterFarts: Okay, thanks.
[01:51] <_smd_> MY computer is now kinda messed up:  My cmputer "mysteriously" shut down while my kid was in my room and i wasn't,  When I went to go start up Ubuntu again and get into the GUI, I got an error right before I went to go login,  There msg was: Failed to start x server(your graphical interface) It is likely that is it not set up correctly, would you liket he view the x server out put to diagnose the problem.  Yes or no.... I pressed ok and it
[01:51] <MisterFarts> triplah, that's great, but i don't think they need help
[01:51] <Tom39Away> MisterFarts: Which mirror do you use, by the way?
[01:51] <MisterFarts> Tom39Away, i don't remember
[01:52] <thrush> NightVision: sudo umount /mnt/whatever then sudo mount -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/whatever
[01:52] <MisterFarts> Tom39Away, i think it was the 3rd us mirror
[01:52] <MisterFarts> Tom39Away, was really fast for me
[01:52] <NightVision> ok
[01:52] <Tom39Away> MisterFarts: Thanks.
[01:52] <triplah> MisterFarts: in many cases saving bandwidth saves money. You are getting the whole operating system for free, why not show some consideration
[01:52] <maddash> hi, has anyone had success with "sudo apt-get install w32codecs"?
[01:52] <ithiel> _smd_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:52] <Whity> yes maddash
[01:52] <bimberi> Tom39Away: just in case :P - http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso.torrent
[01:52] <ithiel> maddash, yes.
[01:53] <djk_> how do i delete a ppp connection i've created with pppoeconf?
[01:53] <ithiel> ubotu tell maddash about repos
[01:53] <interspec> any one help with webcam probs in ubuntu
[01:53] <Tom39Away> bimberi: That's not working for me.  Odd.
[01:53] <misfit_toy> interspec, there are a number of webcam fixes at http://ubuntuforums.org
[01:54] <SlitherX> what's your problem maddash?
[01:54] <_smd_> ithiel: thank you, what is the commant to start up the gui again?
[01:54] <interspec> couldnt find them at that site
[01:54] <ithiel> _smd_, startx
[01:54] <misfit_toy> _smd_, startx
[01:54] <intelikey> does ub not have any 2.4 kernels ?
[01:54] <Hobbsee> can i use the same swap file for breezy and dapper?  or do i need to create a second /swap?
[01:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> so if a search program understands reiser4, it can do really fast searching, right?  no need to use locate and have to rebuild a database every so often..?
[01:55] <_smd_> Thanks
[01:55] <intelikey> i want a 2.4 kernel.
[01:55] <bimberi> Tom39Away: that link works ok for me - although i haven't tried using the resulting file in my bt client
[01:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> reiser4 looks like everything beos fs had, plus more
[01:55] <Tom39Away> bimberi: I get a "The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading." error in Firefox 1.5 RC2.
[01:56] <jrsims> hey fellas, I have apache installed and running, but I can't seem to access web pages from another machine. What's up with this?
[01:56] <MisterFarts> Hobbsee, you should be able to use thre same swap file
[01:56] <Hobbsee> MisterFarts: excellent
[01:56] <ithiel> I want to start an open source project, and someday have an RC151
[01:56] <MisterFarts> Hobbsee, they are both based on 2.6 kernels
[01:56] <maddash> SlitherX: I've enabled the both the Universe and Multiverse option for the repositories in Synaptic, but when I try "sudo apt-get install w32codecs", I get an error message
[01:56] <Hobbsee> yep
[01:56] <intelikey> what if i install a 2.4 kernel from debian ?
[01:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> As of 2004, benchmarks performed by Namesys show that Reiser4 is 10 to 15 times faster than Ext3 working on files smaller than 1Kb.
[01:56] <NightVision> got it working but I had to enable root
[01:56] <Hobbsee> !tell maddash about w32codecs
[01:56] <MisterFarts> intelikey, you should still be able to use the same swap file :)
[01:56] <ithiel> maddash, whats the error?
[01:56] <MisterFarts> intelikey, although you may need to clear it between reloads
[01:57] <intelikey> MisterFarts i don't use swap  :)
[01:57] <MisterFarts> intelikey, you should use swap
[01:57] <triplah> BROKEN_LADDER: ok, enjoy that with yours files > 1kb :)
[01:57] <intelikey> no
[01:57] <thrush> jrsims: can u ping the computer running apache?
[01:57] <maddash> SlitherX: the terminal returns, "Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[01:57] <jrsims> thrush: yes
[01:57] <maddash> ithiel: the terminal returns, "Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[01:57] <MisterFarts> intelikey, yes, unix is designed to use swap space
[01:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> trip heh.  i think it's still very fast on bigger files.
[01:57] <intelikey> MisterFarts i don't have room for it.
[01:57] <ithiel> maddash, sudo apt-get update
[01:57] <thrush> jrsims: from the computer running apache can u get to http://127.0.0.1
[01:57] <bimberi> Tom39Away: strange, perhaps one of the other mirrors - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/
[01:57] <MisterFarts> intelikey, i'm not going to get explain the internals to you, but you should have at least some swap
[01:57] <triplah> stability > speed :)
[01:57] <ithiel> maddash, sudo apt-get install win32codecs
[01:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> can you install ubuntu onto a reiser4 hd?  is that an install option?
[01:58] <ithiel> trip, wrong.
[01:58] <ithiel> trip :P
[01:58] <triplah> i'll use reiser4 when its been in mainstream kernel for a couple of versions
[01:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm going to reinstall breezy, since upgrading from hoary broke my system to hell
[01:58] <pavelich> hey whats going on my cdrom wont open now, all of a sudden
[01:58] <superbeast> how do i restart gnome and xserver?
[01:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> trip but then you have to reinstall
[01:58] <pavelich> it works through the comp, but the actuall button wont open the drive
[01:58] <ithiel> triplah, actually you are right, reiser4 has mangled a few peoples data
[01:58] <triplah> ithiel: i mean that very specifically about filesystems
[01:58] <maddash> ithiel, no such package as "win32codecs"
[01:58] <intelikey> MisterFarts if it will make you feel that much better i'll make a 1k swap file
[01:58] <triplah> data integrity is important
[01:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> superbeast like.. startx
[01:58] <ithiel> triplah, ah, ok
[01:58] <ithiel> triplah, thats why I agreed with you about reiser
[01:58] <jrsims> thrush: yes
[01:58] <ithiel> maddash, sudo apt-get update
[01:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> triplah ehh..true.
[01:58] <maddash> ithiel: I've updated twice within the past hour already
[01:59] <triplah> :>
[01:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> reiser4 just seems so cool, i wanna use it :)
[01:59] <triplah> ok uni time
[01:59] <triplah> cyas
[01:59] <pavelich> ANYONE KNOW?
[01:59] <ithiel> maddash, double check how you added universe and multiverse
[01:59] <Tom39Away> bimberi: Every US mirror gives me the same error.
[01:59] <thrush> jrsims: are both computers on same network? both 192. ips?
[01:59] <jrsims> thrush:
[01:59] <jrsims> thrush: yes
[02:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> Reiser4 possesses employs new algorithms that allow it to make these operations atomic at little additional cost where other filesystems have paid a heavy, usually prohibitive, price to do that. We hope to share with you how that is done. <-- bad grammar
[02:00] <superbeast> broken_ladder, start x isn't a VALID COMMAND
[02:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> superbeast startx
[02:00] <ok_newbie> hello all
[02:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> one word..
[02:00] <pavelich> WHY WOULD MY CD ROM NOT OPEN BUT WORK?
[02:00] <SlitherX> hello
[02:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> pavelich have you tried sudo eject ?
[02:00] <ithiel> pavelich, omg.
[02:00] <ithiel> *bangs head on desk*
[02:00] <pavelich> no i dont know where it is
[02:00] <MisterFarts> BROKEN_LADDER, where is the bad grammar ?
[02:01] <thrush> jrsims: can u get to http://ipaddress from the other computer?
[02:01] <pavelich> or where i could find one
[02:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> MisterFarts "Reiser4 possesses employs new.."
[02:01] <superbeast> broken_ladder i want to restart it, that isn't working?
[02:01] <NigelS> pavelich: maybe it doesn't like the fact that your caps lock is stuck down? you have to unmount the disc first or use eject.
[02:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> there should be an "and" there
[02:01] <jrsims> thrush: no, that's the problem
[02:01] <MisterFarts> BROKEN_LADDER, i think it's a typo
[02:01] <klafka> that's more a typo than a grammatical error
[02:01] <jrsims> thrush: I can only open sites locally
[02:01] <ok_newbie> anyone well experianced with win32 codec
[02:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> superbeast you want to kill it then restart it?
[02:01] <thrush> jrsims: didnt know if u were using hostname instead of ip
[02:01] <ithiel> "well experienced with win32 codec" sigh.
[02:01] <superbeast> broken_ladder yes
[02:01] <ithiel> just ask your question
[02:01] <jrsims> thrush: no, I was using IP address
[02:02] <synapsis_> hello all, i'm installing ubuntu for the first time, i'll be using the 6.10-i386. hopefully this version will actually work.
[02:02] <maddash> hobbsee, ithiel: I downloaded the w32codec manually from Yars repository and installed it using dpkg. Thanks, both of you
[02:02] <superbeast> broken_ladder w/o rebooting
[02:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> superbeast why not just log out?
[02:02] <Hobbsee> maddash: no problems
[02:02] <pavelich> anytime i try an eject through an app it says (eject): ioctl failed: Input/output error
[02:02] <superbeast> k
[02:02] <ok_newbie> ithiel I have installed the codec, so I can play vidoe's just cannot hear them
[02:02] <_smd_> I got back in to the GUI yah!
[02:02] <jrsims> thrush: also, when I run nmap, it shows the ports are open for http
[02:02] <MisterFarts> pavelich, sounds like the device doesn't support eject
[02:02] <ithiel> ok_newbie, check the volume
[02:02] <ithiel> is the speaker plugged in?
[02:02] <pavelich> sorry for the caps before but no one would answer
[02:02] <Bofia> hey
[02:03] <Bofia> How do you boot using more than 1 cheat code?
[02:03] <pavelich> yeah but what doesnt make sense is that it originally worked
[02:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> ubuntu is going to end up being sold on pc's preinstalled like a competitor to windows, huh?
[02:03] <ok_newbie> I did that my volume is fine and all other sounds work just no win files
[02:03] <pavelich> just stopped today
[02:03] <MisterFarts> pavelich, weird ...
[02:03] <pavelich> yeah i know
[02:03] <intelikey> pavelich it probably needs a symlink in /dev   do you know the device address ?
[02:03] <thrush> jrsims: thats a little odd :) dunno sorry
[02:04] <pavelich> no sorry i am a newb
[02:04] <pavelich> how do i find it
[02:04] <pavelich> please help
[02:04] <ithiel> intelikey, take it down a technical notch man
[02:04] <ithiel> step by step it
[02:04] <jrsims> thrush: that's cool. thanks for the help.
[02:04] <intelikey> pavelich first lets see if there is already a link.  "ls /dev/cdrom "
[02:05] <Bofia> How do you boot using more than 1 cheat code?
[02:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there a nice graphical hard drive partitioner?
[02:05] <pavelich> it gave back /dev/cdrom
[02:06] <intelikey>  k it exists.  that is not the problem then.
[02:06] <thrush> BROKEN_LADDER: dont like cfdisk?
[02:06] <intelikey> pavelich try "eject /dev/cdrom "  and see if it errors
[02:06] <McJerry> can someone help me solve video boot problem?
[02:06] <pavelich> k
[02:07] <pavelich> aahhahaha yes
[02:07] <pavelich> thank you man
[02:07] <MisterFarts> BROKEN_LADDER, the redhat/fedora installer has one
[02:07] <pavelich> wait why didnt it work before though u think?
[02:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> thrush cfdisk is fine.
[02:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> i just wondered
[02:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm really tired and sick right now and i want to make this as easy as possible
[02:07] <pavelich> now it starded working
[02:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> i can barely think straight
[02:07] <pavelich> the button too
[02:07] <intelikey> pavelich device in use maybe ?
[02:08] <ithiel> BROKEN_LADDER, I just got done sparring for an hour yesterday. I got wailed on by a black belt, I do not want to hear it
[02:08] <pavelich> hmm, well it was just an audio cd in there
[02:08] <pavelich> no app running
[02:09] <ok_newbie> intelikey: is thier something I can use in Windows to save my vidoes in a format that will work better in Linux
[02:09] <ithiel> ok_newbie, mehhhhh....
[02:09] <ithiel> yeah
[02:09] <SlitherX> ok_newbie.... ??
[02:09] <SlitherX> mm
[02:09] <intelikey> pavelich can't umount a device that is in use.... or at least should not be able too.     if there was a file browser looking at the drive or if you had cd'd to the device in a terminal it would prevent ejecting.
[02:09] <SlitherX> tmpeg enc
[02:09] <MisterFarts> ithiel, bah, you all suck. i squatted a gazillion sets of 250lbs on friday, then biked 50 miles yesterday, today, i went running in the park and now i'm going to go deadlift
[02:10] <pavelich> are ibm formatted floppies compat w/ linux
[02:10] <MisterFarts> :)
[02:10] <ithiel> MisterFarts, bullshit.
[02:10] <MisterFarts> ithiel, what is bullshit ?
[02:10] <intelikey> ok_newbie i'm sure there is, but i have no idea what.   i don't do windows, and seldom ever mess with vidio.
[02:10] <thrush> BROKEN_LADDER: never used gparted before but that might be what u were looking for
[02:10] <ok_newbie> thanx anyway
[02:10] <MisterFarts> ithiel, i actually did more than that; those are just the highlights
[02:10] <MisterFarts> squatting is about 1/4 of my workout
[02:11] <MisterFarts> but it's the most painful part :)
[02:11] <pavelich> intelikey: thanks alot man, are ibm floppies compat with linux
[02:11] <McJerry> newb here needs help.!!!haven't fooled with linux since 2001........
[02:11] <intelikey> ok_newbie you can google for vidio converters....
[02:11] <intelikey> pavelich yessir
[02:11] <pavelich> hmm
[02:11] <GTroy> hey guys
[02:11] <pavelich> how can i access the floppy form the terminal
[02:12] <McJerry> when booting, get blankscreen
[02:12] <ok_newbie> thanx they just have a lot memories from my time in the service
[02:12] <pavelich> or maybe i need device drivers for it, but shouldnt it have installed
[02:12] <McJerry> can boot to console
[02:12] <MisterFarts> pavelich, mount /dev/df0 MOUNTPOINT
[02:12] <GTroy> how much improvement will I see going from an amd 1.4Ghz to an intel celery D 2.9?
[02:12] <MisterFarts> pavelich, alternatively, you can download mtools
[02:12] <GTroy> on breezy?
[02:12] <MisterFarts> and stream directly from the disk
[02:12] <MisterFarts> using dos-like commands
[02:12] <thrush> GTroy: 1.4 ghz what?
[02:12] <intelikey> pavelich 'sudo mount /media/floppy '   and  ls /media/floppy    will list the files on it.
[02:12] <GTroy> thrush: athlon
[02:12] <MisterFarts> GTroy, 22.56%
[02:13] <ithiel> pavelich, sudo mkdir /media/floppy && mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[02:13] <ithiel> erm
[02:13] <ithiel> nevermind
[02:13] <thrice`> other than mediaplayerconnectiviy, what is the best solution (pref. without mplayer) to get streaming video working ?
[02:13] <thrush> GTroy: why not go with an amd 64? :)
[02:13] <sazwerx> how do we know that some applications has been installed or not yet installed?
[02:13] <GTroy> 149 computer
[02:13] <GTroy> dollar computer
[02:13] <intelikey> pavelich don't forget to "sudo umount /media/floppy "  before removing the disk.
[02:13] <pavelich> k
[02:13] <MisterFarts> ithiel, i am still waiting to know what is "bullshit" exactly :)
[02:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> thrush ahhh yess..i had that but forgot about it.  thx
[02:14] <ithiel> MisterFarts, someone who uses Linux may have some physical activity, but not that much
[02:14] <pavelich> dude intelikey you rule man that worked grea
[02:14] <Terminus> intelikey, you don't need sudo for the floppy coz it has the option 'user' in fstab. :)
[02:14] <pavelich> u know anything about C++
[02:14] <MisterFarts> ithiel, is there some law against it ? :)
[02:14] <intelikey> Terminus that assumes a default setup of fstab.
[02:14] <MisterFarts> ithiel, i have a girlfriend too. am i going to hell ?
[02:15] <ithiel> MisterFarts, I have a girlfriend
[02:15] <McJerry> can anyone help me with boot problem?
[02:15] <pavelich> intelikey: you know anything about c++
[02:15] <ithiel> thats not the issue here. :P
[02:15] <intelikey> pavelich no
[02:15] <Terminus> intelikey, well, yeah. i guess i missed that part. :)
[02:15] <interspec__> any one help can get my webcam to work
[02:15] <SlitherX> pavelich, i know something....
[02:15] <MisterFarts> ithiel, well i've had more activity than i usually do, but i'm a bit of a fitness freak
[02:15] <MisterFarts> and the weather is really good
[02:15] <intelikey> pavelich all the writing i'v done is in bash.
[02:16] <pavelich> are you guys familiar with eclipse or anjuta
[02:16] <ithiel> pavelich, use anjuta
[02:16] <SlitherX> pavelich, im now using ajunta
[02:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> gparted is sick
[02:17] <ithiel> MisterFarts, the cool thing is, I get way less physical activity, yet, you're still gonna die right along with me
[02:17] <pavelich> do you have to alter anything other than using the program itself, ie alter files in the os itself
[02:17] <MisterFarts> ithiel, so ?
[02:17] <pavelich> cuz i am not having any success building , compiling etc
[02:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> gparted supports reiser4 !! :)
[02:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> do i want to use primary partition or extended?
[02:17] <MisterFarts> ithiel, physical activity makes me feel good
[02:17] <SlitherX> pavelich, no... i use it without touching anything
[02:17] <mrsnazzy> Can somebody here help me with a problem?
[02:17] <MisterFarts> i like to enjoy the life that i do have
[02:18] <MisterFarts> i like having a strong body
[02:18] <pavelich> k
[02:18] <pavelich> hmm
[02:18] <pavelich> brb
[02:18] <mrsnazzy> Anybody? At all?] 
[02:18] <jeramy> I just dist-upgraded to Breezy on my parents' computer.  Big mistake.
[02:19] <intelikey> pavelich to compile first make sure you have installed "build-essential"  it is not part of the default install.
[02:19] <jeramy> They can't log into X
[02:19] <SlitherX> pavelich, maybe.... the code is wrong
[02:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm about to reboot and install os x for x86 on a second hard drive just to see whether it really works.
[02:19] <MisterFarts> jeramy, what's the problem exactly ?
[02:20] <intelikey> mrsnazzy no.    it is impossable to help you.   you haven't ask any question.
[02:20] <SlitherX> oh... intelikey that's right.... aptitude install build-essential
[02:20] <jeramy> Black screen, console login.  startx returns a bunch of errors
[02:20] <mrsnazzy> Just installed Ubuntu. I can log in. As soon as I enter my username and password, it takes me to a brown screen with the Ubuntu logo and freezes.
[02:20] <MisterFarts> ithiel, you engage in martial arts for the same reason, don't you ?
[02:20] <jeramy> could not open default font '6'.,
[02:21] <terry__> hey room
[02:21] <MisterFarts> jeramy, sounds like either your fontpath is screwed up or for some reason fonts aren't installed
[02:21] <SlitherX> terry__, ?
[02:22] <terry__> brand new to ubuntu just test driving it
[02:22] <jeramy> I just had them run apt-get install ubuntu-desktop... but that didn't do the trick.  Got a quickie way to install or re-install fonts?
[02:22] <theine_> jeramy, try generating a new xorg.conf with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:22] <ithiel> MisterFarts, I engage in martial arts PARTIALLY for health, but I'm not that worried about it, and it doesn't = 50 miles of activity. I am trained in those arts because of discipline, and similar related reasons
[02:22] <jrsims> HEY are there any kind of external port blocking enabled with the default ubuntu install?
[02:22] <MisterFarts> jeramy, you can download the font debs directly
[02:22] <MisterFarts> ithiel, a 50 mile bike ride is not that much
[02:22] <MisterFarts> ithiel, it's about 2 houts
[02:22] <ithiel> flat?
[02:22] <MisterFarts> hours
[02:22] <MisterFarts> ithiel, up and down
[02:22] <mrsnazzy> Am I being ignored or are all my messages just invisible?
[02:23] <ithiel> meh.
[02:23] <MisterFarts> it's san francisco
[02:23] <glick> damn streamtuner is cool as shit
[02:23] <MisterFarts> so some hills but you get to go down too :)
[02:23] <ithiel> flat wouldn't be bad
[02:23] <ithiel> san francisco is another story
[02:23] <mtupper> i cant see php pages in Apache, do I have to install php?  how can I check to see if it is installed or not?  Anybody?  thanks in advance...
[02:23] <ithiel> I've got bruises all over my arms...my back is sore (got kicked there) got hooked in the jaw too
[02:23] <intelikey> you avarage 25mph on a bike ????    not.
[02:23] <theine_> jeramy, be sure to read the header of xorg.conf in case you modified it in the past
[02:23] <McJerry> when at root.....and type startx.....video goes black screen.....am s-video to 47" widescreen....how do i reconfigure?
[02:23] <ithiel> thats what I get for challenging a black belt who is 2 feet taller than me
[02:23] <nut543>  what's the name of that tool that lets you modify modules?
[02:24] <MisterFarts> intelikey, not quite 25mph
[02:24] <user01> does ubuntu install ok on dell laptops?
[02:24] <SlitherX> user01, why not?
[02:24] <intelikey> MisterFarts 50 mile in 2 hours you do the math.
[02:24] <MisterFarts> intelikey, i rounded the time down :)
[02:24] <user01> SlitherX: just to know before i repartition...
[02:24] <aruther> You kept up 25 miles an hour for 2 hours?  Holy crap.
[02:24] <MisterFarts> and the distance isn't exactly either
[02:25] <MisterFarts> aruther, about 20mph i'd sa
[02:25] <MisterFarts> y
[02:25] <MisterFarts> average
[02:25] <aruther> that's just really fast and lon
[02:25] <aruther> long*
[02:25] <MisterFarts> i don't have an odometer so i wouldn't know
[02:25] <jrsims> dabaR: where do you live?
[02:25] <pavelich> intelikey: what do you mean "build-install"?
[02:25] <MisterFarts> aruther, i was often keeping up with cars
[02:25] <MisterFarts> aruther, so i was probably going pretty fastr
[02:25] <dabaR> jrsims: Canada.
[02:25] <intelikey> you an olempic bike racer ?
[02:25] <MisterFarts> aruther, :)
[02:25] <aruther> oh, no, i believe you, I'm just amazed, i couldn't ever do that
[02:26] <mrsnazzy> Can anybody help with this problem at all?
[02:26] <jrsims> dabaR: say, you wouldn't want to help me out with this Comcast problem I'm having wouldja? ;)
[02:26] <MisterFarts> intelikey, no, i'm actually sort of heavy
[02:26] <jeramy> unfortunately theine, I can't read the xorg.conf file because their stupid ISP won't let me ssh into their box.  :x
[02:26] <jrsims> dabaR: jk
[02:26] <MisterFarts> just decent lungs and legs
[02:26] <klafka> hey so i have two 36 gig drives in my ubuntu box i want to setup a software raid for them, when i'm partitioning the drives, should I just create one partition per drive and then create the software raid on top
[02:26] <ithiel> MisterFarts, I am 5' 10 or 11
[02:27] <ithiel> I weigh 205 pounds
[02:27] <aruther> Decent?  I've played ice hockey for 15 years and I don't have the endurance to do that.
[02:27] <MisterFarts> ithiel, i'm 5 7
[02:27] <user01> does ubuntu use one big / partition ?
[02:27] <ithiel> prolly 5' 9''
[02:27] <theine_> jeramy, how did you upgrade to breezy then?
[02:27] <MisterFarts> ithiel, i weigh about 175
[02:27] <jeramy> theine, via synaptic
[02:27] <dabaR> jrsims: sup? :D
[02:27] <ithiel> I'm technically overweight, but nowhere near obese
[02:27] <theine_> jeramy, no, i mean without being able to ssh into their box
[02:27] <nut543> "technically"? :)
[02:27] <MisterFarts> ithiel, i'm technically nearly obese, but in reality, i'm just pretty muscular
[02:27] <ithiel> I said technically, because I have large amounts of muscle in my legs, and my arms are descent
[02:28] <mtupper> this chat is poop: mucho caca, poco ubuntu...
[02:28] <ithiel> MisterFarts, yeah, same story here, prolly not as much muscle as you though, plus I have a little amt of chub in the stomach
[02:28] <pavelich> how do i create executables, it doesnt do it for you like in windows visual C++
[02:28] <jeramy> theine, I was visiting their place, and I left before it was done.  :(
[02:28] <ithiel> dabaR, what?
[02:28] <MisterFarts> ithiel, i have some chubin the gut too, although not enough for it to protrude
[02:28] <ithiel> MisterFarts, ditto
[02:28] <intelikey> pavelich "sudo apt-get install build-essential "   you cant compile without it.
[02:28] <user01> does ubuntu install as one partition ?
[02:28] <pavelich> l
[02:29] <pavelich> k
[02:29] <ithiel> dabaR, you whistled at me, whaddya want?
[02:29] <coa> fyytyu
[02:29] <theine_> jeramy, without access to a terminal, there's not much you can do i think
[02:29] <coa> hi there people
[02:29] <pavelich> holy shit
[02:29] <dabaR> ithiel: just like, sexy!
[02:29] <kapputu> is there a Cisco VPN client for Ubuntu?
[02:29] <dabaR> With your muscle talk...
[02:29] <coa> shit ka jan
[02:29] <pavelich> intelikey you are the man
[02:30] <pavelich> was that already on my hd
[02:30] <intelikey> why ?
[02:30] <dabaR> just go with it.
[02:30] <ithiel> dabaR, ...lol...well I sure hope so, the g/f tells me she likes my physique, so I must be doing something right
[02:30] <nut543> what's the name of that tool that lets you modify modules?
[02:30] <klafka> anyone?
[02:30] <pavelich> ahah cuz you just solved 2 probs i couldnt for todays with 3 commands
[02:30] <pavelich> lol
[02:30] <dabaR> klafka: what?
[02:30] <ubuntu> hi y'all.  Hoping at least one of you would be willing to help a linux idiot like me out a bit....
[02:30] <ithiel> dabaR, MisterFarts actually my g/f wants me to bulk up a little more, prolly in the arms
[02:30] <klafka> hey so i have two 36 gig drives in my ubuntu box i want to setup a software raid for them, when i'm partitioning the drives, should I just create one partition per drive and then create the software raid on top
[02:30] <user01> is there a room that discusses installation questions or is just physique chat?
[02:31] <ithiel> user01, it'll install fine
[02:31] <ithiel> shoo now
[02:31] <MisterFarts> ithiel, i have dismorphia by nwo :)
[02:31] <kevman> My WLAN NIC is detected according to dmesg, and ifconfig wlan0 shows something. But ifup wlan0 gives me "Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0"
[02:31] <klafka> i'm trying to do this from a fresh install withe the raid drives as the boot/main drives
[02:31] <intelikey> pavelich i'm just another linux newbee   :)
[02:31] <kapputu> is there a Cisco VPN client for Ubuntu?
[02:31] <ithiel> MisterFarts, wtf is that?
[02:31] <bimberi> user01: by default, two partitions, one ext3 and one swap
[02:31] <kevman> Does that mean its not working?
[02:31] <dabaR> !raid
[02:31] <ubotu> [raid]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[02:31] <klafka> ah
[02:32] <klafka> thanks
[02:32] <dabaR> ithiel: dont shoo him:) he left...
[02:32] <jrsims> HEY are there any kind of external port blocking enabled with the default ubuntu install?
[02:32] <pavelich> ahah well then i am extra new
[02:32] <dabaR> jrsims: no.
[02:32] <pavelich> lol
[02:32] <MisterFarts> ithiel, i can't really see myself objectively
[02:32] <ubuntu> having a major issue with installing.  I've got 5 x 5.04 ubuntu cd's - only one will fully install without redscreening, and that one leaves me at some sort of installer program that does a huge download then crashes.
[02:32] <glick> man smooth jazz is soo hot
[02:32] <ithiel> dabaR, it worked
[02:32] <glick> smooth jazz is the shit
[02:32] <ithiel> MisterFarts, how do you mean?
[02:32] <jrsims> dabaR: I have apache running - how come I can't load pages from my other machine?
[02:32] <dabaR> ithiel: pah. thats not the point.
[02:32] <dabaR> Also, please read:
[02:32] <dabaR> !enter
[02:32] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[02:32] <MisterFarts> ithiel, well i used to be really thin so i guess that's part of my self-image
[02:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> what's up with this?
[02:32] <ubuntu> booted to live version now just to get help here if possible before I throw in the towel and reinstall *gag* windoze
[02:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> mount: unknown filesystem type 'reiser4'
[02:33] <intelikey> be back..... food.
[02:33] <synapsis_> ubuntu: can you download the last disck again?
[02:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i install the package to be able to mount reiser4 partitions?
[02:33] <Aurora> installed php5 as apache2 module, with the php5-mysql package, yet neither the mysql or mysqli extensions appear to be loaded...
[02:33] <ithiel> MisterFarts, *nods*
[02:33] <ithiel> MisterFarts, I used to be skinny too
[02:33] <MisterFarts> ithiel, in reality, i'm pretty built, but i think i'm small :)
[02:33] <bimberi> guys, c'mon, #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:33] <MisterFarts> it's really weird
[02:33] <jrsims> dabaR: my web server is pingable from the other machine, but I cant ftp or http.
[02:33] <ithiel> lets go to #ubuntu-offtopic MisterFarts I am already there
[02:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> MisterFarts it's like reverse anorexia
[02:33] <ubuntu> got the cd in my writer now synapsis - is possible to do the install while in live mode so y'all can maybe talk me through it?
[02:33] <dabaR> jrsims: ok, you can ping?
[02:33] <ithiel> but actually
[02:33] <ithiel> I need to go
[02:33] <jrsims> dabaR: yep
[02:33] <ithiel> so, I'll ttyl
[02:33] <dabaR> jrsims: is it on the web?
[02:34] <Aurora> oh dang just needed to restart the httpd
[02:34] <jrsims> dabaR: no, it's on my home network
[02:34] <dabaR> jrsims: then its your router, right?
[02:34] <jrsims> dabaR: the machines are sharing a Linksys router
[02:34] <synapsis_> ubuntulog: i'm unsure to tell you the truth man, i'm installing ubuntu for the first time right now. i actually was trying earlier and i ran into a huge problem with red screen's
[02:34] <dabaR> jrsims: forward port 80 on the router to the server.
[02:34] <jrsims> dabaR: mmkay cool.
[02:35] <MisterFarts> BROKEN_LADDER, yeah, something like that, except i am self-aware enough nto to take it seriously
[02:35] <Knowerrors> Hey all, just installed qtparted, and it does nothing when I click on the program icon to start it... whats up here?
[02:35] <MisterFarts> BROKEN_LADDER, so i don't really suffer from trying to address my "problems"
[02:35] <ubuntu> nexu was trying to help me out earlier - he sent me to a link for some sort of 'netboot' thing.  I got the file, it's on a burned cd but not extracted so won't do me any good :(
[02:35] <dabaR> jrsims: the router receives _all_ traffic. Therefore, it needs to forward it, or firewall it. You want it forwarded.
[02:35] <jrsims> dabaR: ... but still, shouldn't I be able to load the page in my browser regardless?
[02:36] <dabaR> jrsims: on the localhost, yes.
[02:36] <synapsis_> ubuntulog: ahh that sucks man, wish i could help yah out. keep askin though, maybe someone will know somethin
[02:36] <dabaR> jrsims: on the other computer, it is as good as firewalled until you forward the port.
[02:36] <XRange> can someone point me in right direction of pcmcia card.  It worked as eth1 in 5.04 & now in 5.10 it's eth2 to finally got it to work
[02:36] <coa> hi there can i join your conversation?
[02:36] <dabaR> ubuntu: you can not at this time install from the live cd Ubuntu.
[02:37] <dabaR> coa: ask question related to your issue, not throa\t clearing ones:)
[02:37] <ubuntu> k, so I can't install from the live cd - can I install from the install cd while still in live mode?
[02:37] <Knowerrors> nevermind... Im on Kubuntu, and needed to change gksudo to kdesu in the command... that should be automatic
[02:37] <dabaR> ubuntu: no.
[02:37] <XRange> i want it back as eth1 so I don;t have to change it manual every time to get pcmcia working
[02:37] <Riddell> Knowerrors: hoary or breezy?
[02:37] <dabaR> ubuntu: in fact, I dont know, but think not. reboot, whats the deal?
[02:38] <dabaR> XRange: it can be set to be automatic, how is it manual?
[02:38] <dabaR> XRange: meaning what do you do to fix it?
[02:38] <synapsis_> does ubuntu come with a mp3 player right off the bat?
[02:38] <dabaR> synapsis_: no. /msg ubotu mp3
[02:38] <synapsis_> k thanks
[02:38] <ubuntu> the deal is I never get into gnome shell after install - it gets me to that installer thing which downloads like 100 megs of stuff then crashes, then I get bash prompt, then I reboot and get bash prompt with no way into any kind of shell.
[02:39] <kapputu> is there a Cisco VPN client for Ubuntu?
[02:39] <XRange> dabaR: every time i reboot i have to deactive eth1 and activate eth2 to get to net
[02:39] <dabaR> ubuntu: what graphics card?
[02:39] <dabaR> XRange: write a script...change the config file...
[02:39] <XRange> i'm not that good man
[02:39] <Knowerrors> Riddell: breezy btw, this is the second or third time this has happened with apps I installed myself from ubu repos on Kubuntu
[02:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know how the hell to get reiserfs4 support module in ubuntu?
[02:39] <ubuntu> dabaR: nvidia geforce 5200 xfx. no graphics issues with live though, even on a fubared hdd since it's got the bad ubuntu on it.
[02:39] <dabaR> ubuntu: install with the shell, and /msg ubotu nvidia
[02:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> wish me luck guys..
[02:40] <Knowerrors> They should really fix that so apps installed on kubuntu have kdesu instead of gksudo
[02:40] <dabaR> XRange: well, I can perhaps help you. Do you know what pastebin is?
[02:40] <XRange> dabaR: no
[02:40] <liquidboy> how can i play streaming asx files (like from mp3.com.au) ?
[02:40] <Riddell> Knowerrors: what other apps have you had the problem with
[02:41] <dabaR> XRange: read private messages from ubotu
[02:41] <XRange> ok
[02:41] <ubuntu> ok, let's back up a bit - install with the shell - ummm ok, that's what I've been trying to do -
[02:41] <ubuntu> tried msging ubotu with nvidia, no luck.
[02:41] <Knowerrors> Riddell: BUM... forgot which others
[02:41] <pavelich> got it everyone thats for all help
[02:41] <dabaR> xrange, type "sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces" and press enter, in a terminal. Paste that file to pastebin.
[02:42] <XRange> ok
[02:42] <OptiPlex> anyone ever have trouble with the gpg keys in synaptic?
[02:42] <dabaR> !gpg
[02:42] <ubotu> gpg is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey or http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/8746
[02:42] <dabaR> !gpgerr
[02:42] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[02:43] <martin_> hey, Ive been trying to get my ATI Mobility 9100 to work for hours now, anyone gone through this and can give me a hand?
[02:43] <OptiPlex> heh I did that the other day
[02:43] <OptiPlex> :[\
[02:43] <Knowerrors> OptiPlex: yeah, try changing your apt list from us.whatever to just whatever
[02:43] <F-Jakob> how do i install rpm pakages?
[02:43] <synapsis_> finally installed ubuntu, can't wait to see what happens now
[02:43] <F-Jakob> In Ubuntu...
[02:43] <OptiPlex> ahh ty Knowerrors
[02:43] <dabaR> F-Jakob: by avoiding them, and uising .debs, .bins, and source code instead.
[02:43] <McJerry> can someone help me troubleshoot and solve video failure on boot up
[02:43] <F-Jakob> :-D
[02:43] <OptiPlex> Knowerrors: but I just use the default keys?
[02:44] <OptiPlex> F-Jakob: alien -i <packagename.rpm>
[02:44] <F-Jakob> dabaR But i can't install Limewire then...
[02:44] <Knowerrors> I didn't have to change keys
[02:44] <dabaR> F-Jakob: get the one for other systems, there is no installation.
[02:44] <F-Jakob> (y)
[02:44] <Knowerrors> OptiPlex: depends on your GPG problem
[02:45] <XRange> dabaR: it's there i think
[02:45] <dabaR> haha, an msn thumbs up...
[02:45] <Knowerrors> OptiPlex: I just changed us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com for all the repositories and updated
[02:45] <dabaR> ubuntu: did you say you get a shell and no X windows?
[02:45] <OptiPlex> Knowerrors: Ill keep you posted. *reloads package list*
[02:45] <ubuntu> precisely dabaR
[02:45] <OptiPlex> im gonna go watch Penn and Teller :] 
[02:45] <kapputu> where can I get a copy of the Cisco VPN client for Linux???
[02:45] <Paradoxx> y is it for my sound settings, when it goes to '50%' it goes silent and then 51% acts like 1% of the actual output?
[02:45] <ubuntu> couldn't even find anything resembling gnome or xwindows using ls from bash.
[02:45] <Paradoxx> !sound
[02:45] <ubotu> rumour has it, sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[02:45] <dabaR> ubuntu: follow the instructions on the nvidia wiki page ubotu told you about in private.
[02:46] <Knowerrors> how do you get Qtparted to format a partition as NTFS?
[02:46] <ubuntu> thanks - but there's an issue there too... the instructions say use synaptic, and tell how to light it off from xwindows not from prompt.
[02:46] <urbanfox|away> on ubuntu, how do I configure network interfaces from the commandline? (like I can with netsetup under slack)
[02:46] <dabaR> XRange: sure is. now that you have looked at your config file, guess on what line you have to put a # on the front to disable the eth1 from loading
[02:46] <MisterFarts> urbanfox|away, configure them permanently or configure them itneractively ?
[02:47] <Dasnipa`> any way to tell what command invokes an app you just installed with apt ? for instance i installed the program "attal" but the obvious command 'attal' doesnt start the app
[02:47] <dabaR> dpkg -L package will list files.
[02:47] <urbanfox|away> misfit_toy> permanently
[02:47] <urbanfox|away> er
[02:47] <urbanfox|away> MisterFarts> permanently
[02:47] <XRange> dabaR: iface eth1 inet dhcp
[02:47] <dabaR> XRange: good work.:)
[02:47] <MisterFarts> urbanfox|away, there appear to be some scripts in /etc/network
[02:48] <jrsims> dabaR: I missed your reply to this one: shouldn't I be able to load the page in my browser regardless of the router settings?
[02:48] <misfit_toy> I have to say I have never been confused with anyone named MisterFarts before
[02:48] <dabaR> try, and then when you reboot next, it should just work, XRange
[02:48] <dabaR> jrsims: on the localhost, yes.
[02:48] <XRange> ok thanks
[02:48] <jrsims> dabaR: k
[02:48] <Paradoxx> y is it for my sound settings, when it goes to '50%' it goes silent and then 51% acts like 1% of the actual output?
[02:49] <dabaR> jrsims: on the other computer, it is as good as firewalled until you forward the port. Because the port is not being forwarded, so its firewalled.
[02:49] <varsendagger> is there a how to for samba
[02:49] <kbrooks> "I love building all sources from scratch, then it will be optimized and made to run smooth for MY machine. as Debian normally uses binary packages, yeah dependencies crap may happen, that's odd, you might as well just switch to pure source base distro, right."
[02:49] <Elsan> I need help. My Applications Menu Editor won't work at all! I see it starting in the taskbar but it just disappears after, I can't edit anything...
[02:49] <kbrooks> lol
[02:49] <MisterFarts> urbanfox|away, check /etc/init.d/networking and see what that thuing does
[02:49] <misfit_toy> varsendagger, http://samba.org
[02:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> Elsan mined doesn't really do much either.
[02:49] <MisterFarts> kbrooks, the credo of retards everywhere
[02:49] <jrsims> dabaR: would 'port triggering' be the same thing as 'port forwarding'?
[02:49] <Toma-> MisterFarts: that wont configure diddly
[02:49] <Elsan> BROKEN_LADDER: What?
[02:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> Elsan did you run smeg?
[02:49] <kbrooks> "I use Gentoo because I'm a speed freak - I can't stand the thought that some of my packages might not be running as fast as they could be."
[02:49] <Knowerrors> !ntfs
[02:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> !reiser4
[02:50] <ubotu> BROKEN_LADDER: Do they come in packets of five?
[02:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> lol
[02:50] <dabaR> jrsims: perhaps, look at the manual for the router(usually available on the OEM site). It seems so.
[02:50] <DrBair> does anyone know if you can make gnome scripts only show up in the listing if its a certain file type?
[02:50] <occy> does anyone find Breezy unstable?
[02:50] <misfit_toy> occy, not me
[02:50] <Toma-> occy: never
[02:50] <occy> Thunderbird and Firefox are both unstable for me.
[02:50] <occy> they keep crashing.
[02:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> occy i've had tons of problems with it since upgrading from hoary.  but i'm going to try a fresh install.
[02:50] <MisterFarts> Toma-, sure it will, you have to read the script to figure out what it's doing though
[02:50] <occy> Inever had any problems with Hoary
[02:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> occy never had that problem. :/
[02:50] <Toma-> right.
[02:50] <ubuntu> still stuck, reading pages - pardon me idling here a minute.
[02:50] <occy> BROKEN_LADDER, this is from fresh install, not upgrading
[02:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> occy wow.
[02:50] <Elsan> BROKEN_LADDER: I don't know, I go In applications menu then System Utilities and click "diteur de Menu Application"(my OS is in french). I then see "Starting App..." and it disappears and nothing happens. Been like this for a while...
[02:50] <occy> I used the Ireland repos'
[02:51] <crimsun> I just can't seem to run Ubuntu 5.10 PPC on my Dell laptop.
[02:51] <occy> that shouldn't make a diff huh?
[02:51] <Paradoxx> anyone know y is it for my volume settings, when it goes to '50%' it goes silent and then 51% acts like 1% of the actual output?
[02:51] <Paradoxx> !volume
[02:51] <ubotu> Paradoxx: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[02:51] <sasquatc4> how do you change the bootup graphic, like where it starts all the services and whatnot
[02:51] <ithiel> lol
[02:51] <Razor-X``> crimsun: you cn't do that! you're moral support for the channel@
[02:51] <dabaR> crimsun: what?
[02:51] <Razor-X``> *!
[02:51] <occy> crimsun, I am an Ironman!   http://occy.net/ironman
[02:51] <crimsun> occy: congrats!
[02:51] <occy> :)
[02:51] <Razor-X``> *can't
[02:51] <occy> crimsun, it was a super fun day.
[02:51] <occy> crimsun, 14:09:18
[02:52] <crimsun> occy: ooh, excellent
[02:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm downloading an ubuntu right now that says "6.10" wtf
[02:52] <occy> I was about an hour and a half ahead of where I thought I'd be.
[02:52] <crimsun> Razor-X``: it's fine, the real crimsun was only kidnapped for a moment
[02:52] <occy> crimsun, and I wasn't very tired at the end.
[02:52] <occy> heh
[02:52] <occy> well, I was tired, but not completely worn out.
[02:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> Elsan did you try running from command line?
[02:52] <occy> I had something extra left in the tank.
[02:52] <Elsan> I need help. My Applications Menu Editor won't work at all! I see it starting in the taskbar but it just disappears after, I can't edit anything...
[02:52] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[02:53] <occy> hmmm
[02:53] <Razor-X``> crimsun: oh, ok
[02:53] <occy> I wonder if it could be my GTK theme causing the problem.
[02:53] <dabaR> Elsan: oh no, now you cant edit the application menu...
[02:53] <EnsignRedshirt> Anyone here familiar with latex/dvips/ps2pdf?
[02:53] <occy> crimsun, think it could be my gtk theme?
[02:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> crimsun is there reiser4 for ubuntu?
[02:53] <McJerry> can anyone help with problem.....load fails after startx.......no video, just blank screen
[02:53] <crimsun> occy: hmm, but then it would be manifest across all gtk apps
[02:53] <occy> crimsun, I never had problems with it under Hoary though.
[02:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> McJerry same thing happened to me for a long time.  i don't remember how i fixed it.  it was tons of work.
[02:53] <Elsan> BROKEN_LADDER: what is the command?
[02:53] <crimsun> occy: can you reproduce the instability with a new user?
[02:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> Elsan smeg
[02:54] <Elsan> dabaR: It's just a french translation
[02:54] <occy> crimsun, interesting point, I did copy over my preferences
[02:54] <occy> crimsun, meaning, I used the old ~
[02:54] <dabaR> Elsan: and a fine one to that.
[02:54] <UbuntuTUX> alguem ai sabe a senha de root do live cd do ubunt:
[02:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> occy yeah, there's a good chance you just need to start with fresh profiles
[02:54] <occy> :/
[02:54] <occy> hmm
[02:54] <EnsignRedshirt> ps2pdf seems to shift the document up by about half an inch.
[02:54] <crimsun> BROKEN_LADDER: not yet
[02:54] <occy> man, that is the suxx0r
[02:54] <UbuntuTUX> what is the root password of the live cd/
[02:54] <McJerry> broken_ladder.......what command do i run at console to reconfigure video
[02:54] <crimsun> UbuntuTUX: set one.
[02:54] <ithiel> UbuntuTUX, there isn't one
[02:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> McJerry dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[02:54] <UbuntuTUX> crimsun, how/
[02:55] <ubuntu> ok, doing the nvidia glx install thru synaptic - this can be done from live version and will fix on the hdd, yes?
[02:55] <occy> crimsun, so you are saying, try and operate as another user, see if I have any problems, if I don't then, it's probably my prefs config files.
[02:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> occy exactly.
[02:55] <occy> BROKEN_LADDER, good thinking guys.
[02:55] <occy> :/
[02:55] <Elsan> BROKEN_LADDER, dabaR: I'll post my error.
[02:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> occy you could even rename your config directory for a second.
[02:55] <occy> well
[02:55] <occy> I can't reproduce the issue
[02:55] <occy> Like...
[02:55] <occy> I can't do a certain thing and have it barf
[02:56] <occy> it seems like a random occurance
[02:56] <dabaR> Elsan: #ubuntu-fr speaks in french
[02:56] <ufk> hiya
[02:56] <occy> mon dieux
[02:56] <occy> heh
[02:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> crimsun why am i downloading an ubuntu 6.10 install iso right now?  6.10?
[02:56] <McJerry> tx BROKEN_LADDER; i haven't used linux in any fashion since 2001..just need some direction....am in xserver-xorg now
[02:56] <occy> BROKEN_LADDER, you crazy, I pity you!
[02:56] <ubuntu> je parlez un petit peux de francais, but not that freakin much *boggle*
[02:56] <crimsun> BROKEN_LADDER: ...I dunno, why are you?
[02:57] <nebular> I'm having trouble with bootcdwrite, when it tries to mount the initrd.img I get an error cramfs wrong magic
[02:57] <synapsis_> borken: cuz i just downloaded it and renamed it to 6.10 ;)
[02:57] <Elsan> dabaR: I know but I'm not in France so there's a lot of people and in english there's always more people.
[02:57] <EnsignRedshirt> BROKEN_LADDER: Are you from the future?
[02:57] <Elsan> I need help. My Applications Menu Editor won't work at all! I see it starting in the taskbar but it just disappears after, I can't edit anything... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4507
[02:57] <ufk> ubuntu amd64 is the only livecd that actually sees my sata drives. it sees them only after it loads evms and lvm. are those related to viewing my sata drives? what do i need to install to be able to compile my own kernel and view them?
[02:57] <occy> BROKEN_LADDER, that was my "Raising Arizona" reference.
[02:57] <bnD> anyone here used (using) squid? i cant seem to allow access to ANY url from my local machine
[02:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> crimsun i thought breezy was 5.10
[02:58] <Knowerrors> Can anybody help with this please? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89854
[02:58] <crimsun> BROKEN_LADDER: breezy is 5.10.
[02:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> so why does the iso so 6.10?
[02:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> should i not download it?
[02:59] <crimsun> BROKEN_LADDER: url?
[02:59] <andresmedina> alguien habla espaol ?
[02:59] <dabaR> Knowerrors: as in thanks ahead.
[02:59] <dabaR> in advance
[02:59] <XRange> dabaR: still had to manual start eth2 after changing those lines
[02:59] <dabaR> !es
[02:59] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> crimsun http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[03:00] <dabaR> XRange: how did you start it?
[03:00] <ubuntu> no espanol aqui - usen #ubuntu-es por favor
[03:00] <XRange> is there another file i need
[03:00] <XRange> edit
[03:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> crimsun uhh..somehow i'm gettinga file named  ubuntu-6.10-install-i386.iso from that
[03:00] <mike_douglas> just last week my printer started printing everything in a shade of pink. At first I thought it was an ink cartridge issue, but after I replaced them, all my documents are still pink. Has this happened to anyone else?
[03:00] <XRange> system , admin , networking
[03:00] <dabaR> XRange: and did you have to turn off eth1?
[03:00] <crimsun> BROKEN_LADDER: try another mirror.
[03:00] <MisterFarts> mike_douglas, your printer is gay
[03:01] <XRange> no eth1 was off
[03:01] <Toma-> lol
[03:01] <ubuntu> btw thanks for all the help so far dabaR.  I hope we can get this fixed and up and running.  I'm so sick of all the M$problems it's not even funny.
[03:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> crimsun doh!  it's just firefox trying to increment the name because an existing file with that name exists.  bizarre.
[03:01] <mike_douglas> hah
[03:02] <dabaR> XRange: try changing the map eth1 to map eth2:)
[03:02] <XRange> ok
[03:02] <dabaR> XRange: reading the config file can tell you lots.
[03:03] <EasterSunshine> hi all, i was wondering if there were any 3d desktop managers or 3d file browsers in the repos for breezy? anything 3d and desktop-related, not games
[03:03] <thrice`> what is the pack to remove obselete packs ?
[03:03] <DaMouse> anyone know what i should be using for speech-to-commands ?
[03:03] <EasterSunshine> thrice`: debfoster?
[03:03] <Toma-> EasterSunshine: use synaptic and search for 3d
[03:03] <Paradoxx> anyone know y is it for my volume settings, when it goes to '50%' it goes silent and then 51% acts like 1% of the actual output?
[03:03] <dabaR> Paradoxx: not y x
[03:03] <ithiel> EasterSunshine, Project Looking Glass
[03:04] <Paradoxx> dabaR: huh?
[03:04] <thrice`> EasterSunshine, thansk :)
[03:04] <DaMouse> anyone? :(
[03:04] <EasterSunshine> ithiel: it is in the repos? what is the package name, i couldn't find it
[03:04] <McJerry> BROKEN_LADDER
[03:04] <ithiel> EasterSunshine, I didn'
[03:05] <McJerry> reran xorg configuration.....still blank screen
[03:05] <ithiel> EasterSunshine, I didn't say it was in the repo's, I merely told you an example project, www.google.com
[03:05] <jrsims> dabaR: ok, once I've setup port forwarding, I should be able to send http requests to my external IP?
[03:05] <Mabus06> what's the easiest way to burn a dvd with ubuntu
[03:05] <ithiel> search for 3d otherwise
[03:05] <McJerry> where can i view log to help find prob?
[03:05] <Mabus06> a dvd to be played on a dvd player, that is
[03:05] <_smd_> I am getting an error on my monitor saying  "OUT OF FREQUENCY RANGE" "SET RESOLUTION LOWER OR SEE MONITORS USER GUIDE",  I have looked at ubuntu forums, and tried  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop      sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg,  and i thought it might have done something,  but no, and I dont know what else to try.
[03:05] <Toma-> EasterSunshine: try xcruise
[03:05] <Paradoxx> dabaR: could you explain please m8?
[03:05] <Knowerrors> dabaR: wiseguy eh ;) guess that means you don't know nutin?
[03:05] <dabaR> jrsims: yes
[03:05] <McJerry> have svideo from nvidea fx5500 to tv
[03:05] <dabaR> Paradoxx: refer to Knowerrors' last post
[03:05] <ithiel> _smd_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg you need to set your vertical/horizontal frequency limits properly
[03:06] <Elsan> I need help. My Applications Menu Editor won't work at all! I see it starting in the taskbar but it just disappears after, I can't edit anything... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4507 Maybe it is caused by the fact that some programs were added automatically to the GNOME menu...
[03:06] <_smd_>  ithiel: i know basically nothing about computers :( \
[03:06] <dabaR> _smd_: not so. And, we did this many times already.
[03:07] <MagicFab> Any Averatec laptop users here ? Wondering if anyone's able to suspend-to-ram or sleep their machine ?
[03:07] <ithiel> _smd_, its ok, just choose lower refresh rates/frequencies, they're prolly too high for the resolution you are choosing
[03:07] <dabaR> _smd_: post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to paste.ubuntulinux.nl (cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[03:07] <everton137> Hi, which package should I install for run skype? I am havibng the message  libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:07] <ithiel> MagicFab, I am not an owner, but I would bet not
[03:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> McJerry what?
[03:07] <Mabus06> what's the easiest way to burn a dvd with ubuntu??
[03:07] <ithiel> MagicFab, google might provide answers
[03:07] <Paradoxx> dabaR: can't seem to locate the one that you are talking about
[03:07] <MisterFarts> everton137, install the libstdtc++ :)
[03:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> crimsun do you think reinstalling breezy from disc might fix some problems i've had since upgrading from hoary?
[03:07] <dabaR> Paradoxx: I dont know the answer.
[03:07] <MagicFab> Mabus06: insert a blank DVD and Nautilus should prompt to to do ti
[03:08] <MisterFarts> everton137, you need to install the C++ runtime
[03:08] <MagicFab> (do it)
[03:08] <everton137> MisterFarts, thanks :)
[03:08] <ithiel> Mabus06, search synaptic for dvd burning or creation
[03:08] <synapsis_> are a lot of people here using Xchat IRC?
[03:08] <phillambrechts> how can i remove a symbolic link
[03:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> synapsis_ i am
[03:08] <phillambrechts> synapsis_, yes
[03:08] <Mabus06> MagicFab, data, photo, or audio cd? Video DVD is none of those.
[03:08] <synapsis_> k just curious
[03:08] <_smd_> dabaR: how would I post my' /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to paste.ubuntulinux.nl (cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[03:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> xchat is cool.  and you don't have to remember all the commands like in bitchx or whatever
[03:08] <synapsis_> i'm just checking out the programs in ubuntu, never used it before.
[03:08] <MisterFarts> everton137, libstdc++5
[03:08] <ubuntu> did the install, popped me out to a bash prompt, then restarted live mode.
[03:08] <McJerry> ran through xorg configuration again...card detects correctly....but still no video on tv....have svideo from nvidia fx5500 to tv
[03:08] <jrsims> dabaR: I don't know man. still no worky.
[03:08] <MisterFarts> everton137, apt-get install libstdc++5
[03:08] <XRange> dabaR: least networking works even if i have start it manual
[03:08] <ithiel> xchat is nice, yes
[03:08] <MisterFarts> everton137, you will also need the qt3 libs
[03:08] <Toma-> Mabus06: what are u trying to do exactly?
[03:09] <MagicFab> Mabus06: ah, you mean mastering a dvd
[03:09] <everton137> MisterFarts, Thanks, I am doing ;)
[03:09] <pavelich> hey how do you install drivers for printers
[03:09] <ubuntu> dabar: reckon I should reboot from hdd now, and if so, and if I get a bash prompt, how do I start xwindows?
[03:09] <ithiel> this room btw, is what happens when you make a distribution/OS default to a server/channel
[03:09] <everton137> MisterFarts, ah, ok. qt3
[03:09] <ithiel> 626 people, obscene.
[03:09] <XRange> there must be another file that keeps calling eth1 first
[03:09] <Knowerrors> dabaR: is that issue with usb camera something being worked on?  I know of others with similar thing and they haven't fixed it
[03:09] <dabaR> _smd_: type "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf in a terminal, and press enter. taht will give you the file.
[03:09] <superbeast> how do i mount my ipod
[03:09] <ithiel> it gets worse continually.
[03:09] <Mabus06> Toma-, burning a folder that was ripped from a dvd, back onto one
[03:09] <ithiel> superbeast, sudo apt-get install gtkpod
[03:09] <Toma-> superbeast: plug it in, and it should mount automagically
[03:09] <dabaR> ubuntu: you dont, untill you fix your graphics card driver.
[03:09] <dabaR> ubuntu: have you found the nvidia wiki page?
[03:10] <Toma-> Mabus06: so its in AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS format already?
[03:10] <superbeast> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:10] <superbeast> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:10] <superbeast> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_universe_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:10] <ubuntu> dabar: did the synaptic install of it. let me return to the wiki page and see
[03:10] <superbeast> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_multiverse_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:10] <Toma-> eep
[03:10] <ithiel> SUPERBEAST
[03:10] <superbeast> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[03:10] <superbeast> E: Couldn't find package gtkipod
[03:10] <ithiel> don't spam!
[03:10] <superbeast> sorry for spam
[03:10] <ubuntu> holy spam batman!
[03:10] <ithiel> superbeast, goddamn you!
[03:10] <MagicFab> Mabus06: check there's some stuff in the wiki avout DVDs
[03:10] <MagicFab> Mabus06: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=dvd&titlesearch=Titles
[03:10] <ubuntu> !nvidia
[03:10] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:10] <dabaR> ubuntu: anything you install on the live cd has no effect on the installation on your computer.
[03:10] <pavelich> any one know how to install a driver for printer thats usb,  hp deskjet 3600
[03:10] <dabaR> !paste
[03:10] <ubotu> well, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:11] <ithiel> superbeast, I said GTKPOD, NOT GTKIPOD
[03:11] <nebular> I'm trying to mount my initrd.img, when I run mount -o loop -t cramfs /initrd.img I get a message about wrong magic. anyone know why?
[03:11] <pavelich> sorry 3650
[03:11] <everton137> MisterFarts, libqt3-i38n?
[03:11] <ithiel> *smacks forehead*
[03:11] <ubuntu> dabar: ok, so how do I get it installed and fixed when I can't call synaptic from the bash prompt then?
[03:11] <MisterFarts> everton137, no
[03:11] <dabaR> ithiel: his sources.list need us. remo0val
[03:11] <Toma-> Mabus06: so its in AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS format already?
[03:11] <ithiel> dabaR, irrelevant, should've installed.
[03:11] <EasterSunshine> Toma-: wow ,i've been playing with xcruise for a while now, thx
[03:11] <Mabus06> Toma-, there is only a VIDEO_TS folder
[03:11] <everton137> MisterFarts, qt3assistant?
[03:12] <ubuntu> dabar: or, how do I call up synaptic from a bash prompt?
[03:12] <mclaren266> hello
[03:12] <MisterFarts> everton137, bi
[03:12] <_smd_> dabaR: its there now
[03:12] <MisterFarts> everton137, no
[03:12] <Toma-> Mabus06: well just put that VIDEO_TS folder at the root... eg. lowest level
[03:12] <dabaR> ubuntu: sudo aptitude install works as an installation command.
[03:12] <Toma-> and burn away
[03:12] <pavelich> ok does anyone know ANYTHING about printer drivers
[03:12] <everton137> MisterFarts, qt3-dev-tools?
[03:12] <MisterFarts> everton137, no
[03:12] <Toma-> Mabus06: ps, its a data cd format
[03:12] <ubuntu> dabar: that's the screwy one that crashes after doing this enormous download.
[03:12] <mclaren266> does anyone know how to install wireless drivers for my wireless usb key (dwl-g122)?
[03:12] <rabeldable> pavelich: whats wrong?
[03:12] <MisterFarts> everton137, you need the qt libraries
[03:12] <Mabus06> Toma-, data cd? okay thanks
[03:12] <ithiel> mclaren266, ndiswrapper
[03:12] <dabaR> _smd_: is your screen big again?
[03:12] <Toma-> np
[03:12] <mclaren266> is it easy to use
[03:13] <Mabus06> Toma-, do I put the folder on the dvd or the contents of the folder? Or does it matter?
[03:13] <ubuntu> dabar: but I'll try it from there. back in a few if it doesn't work. thanks!
[03:13] <mclaren266> i am a noob at linux
[03:13] <MisterFarts> i believe they're called libqt3-mt
[03:13] <Toma-> Mabus06: the folder
[03:13] <dabaR> ubuntu: sudo apt-get insatll works too.
[03:13] <pavelich> rabeldabel: hey man nice to talk again, i need to get my printer working, hp deskjet 3650, usb
[03:13] <ithiel> I'm a noob at life, but its ok.
[03:13] <Mabus06> !wifi
[03:13] <ubotu> from memory, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:13] <Mabus06> mclaren266, ^^^
[03:13] <everton137> MisterFarts, libavahi-qt3-0 - Avahi QT3 integration library
[03:13] <everton137>  :)?
[03:13] <Dez[debian] > !make
[03:13] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Dez[debian] 
[03:13] <Dez[debian] > !dcc
[03:13] <ubotu> Dez[debian] : Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:13] <Dez[debian] > :(
[03:13] <MisterFarts> everton137, for the millionth time, no
[03:13] <Toma-> anyone know if the new Nintendo Wi-Fi adapter for the DS is gonna work? :D
[03:13] <Dez[debian] > !gcc
[03:13] <ubotu> gcc is, like, totally, the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.
[03:13] <synapsis_> honestly, i'm imperssed with linux, i have no idea why i bothered with windows for so long. wow.
[03:13] <everton137> MisterFarts, I am soooooo dumb/
[03:13] <_smd_> dabar: I have it at 1024x768 now,,, the smaller res was not working with xine
[03:13] <dabaR> Dez[debian] : are you ok?
[03:13] <MisterFarts> MisterFarts, you need whatever is qt3 runtime
[03:13] <Mabus06> Dez[debian] , msg ubotu privately for private queries okay
[03:13] <Dez[debian] > yeah
[03:14] <MisterFarts> everton137, which i belive it libqt3-mt
[03:14] <Dez[debian] > i need stuff to make a SRC
[03:14] <rabeldable> pavelich: did you try to set it up through the printing administration tool?
[03:14] <dabaR> smurf: really?
[03:14] <MisterFarts> everton137, from memory
[03:14] <dabaR> smurf: sorry
[03:14] <synapsis_> Dez[debian] : did you say earlier that you were likin ubuntu as well?
[03:14] <everton137> MisterFarts, Thsnk
[03:14] <dabaR> _smd_: really? weird. well...
[03:14] <spine> can someone tell me why totem crashes when trying to play in-web videos, its driving me insane and am quite amteurish
[03:14] <Dez[debian] > yeah
[03:14] <_smd_> Yes yes it was odd
[03:14] <Dez[debian] > i love ubuntu
[03:14] <pavelich> rabeldable: where is it located
[03:14] <Mabus06> what's a good program to mount folders as drives, like daemon but for ubuntu (or can I get that for ubuntu...)?
[03:14] <dabaR> I think you need me to reinstall that ubuntu..
[03:14] <MisterFarts> everton137, ibqt3-mt                             3.3.4-8ubuntu5                     Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), V
[03:14] <MisterFarts> everton137, this is what you need
[03:14] <synapsis_> Dez[debian] : i'm joinin you on that =D
[03:14] <Mabus06> !paste
[03:14] <ubotu> methinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:14] <rabeldable> pavelich: Sytem -> Administration -> Printing
[03:14] <Dez[debian] > Everything works
[03:15] <_smd_> dabaR: mine?
[03:15] <Dez[debian] > E_V_E_R_Y_T_H_I_N_G
[03:15] <Dez[debian] > it was to powerful for my P266
[03:15] <spine> can someone tell me why totem crashes when trying to play in-web videos, its driving me insane and am quite amteurish
[03:15] <Dez[debian] > Laptop
[03:15] <pavelich> lol
[03:15] <Mabus06> what's a good program to mount folders as drives, like daemon but for ubuntu (or can I get that for ubuntu...)?
[03:15] <everton137> MisterFarts, Thank you very much :))
[03:15] <ithiel> YES!
[03:15] <synapsis_> hey whats everyone using for a msn messenger clone?
[03:15] <ithiel> THE RADIO IS PLAYING MOTORCYCLE!
[03:15] <Toma-> synapsis_: amsn
[03:15] <ithiel> hahahahahahahahha!
[03:15] <Mabus06> spine, get totem-xine
[03:15] <dabaR> _smd_: ya, who else do I know, and can reinstall ubuntu on their computer, these people all from all over, I dont know anyone:)
[03:15] <misfit_toybuntu> ithiel, is that good or bad?
[03:15] <ithiel> Motorcycle - As The Rush Comes
[03:15] <ithiel> misfit_toybuntu, FREAKING GOOD!
[03:16] <dabaR> _smd_: and...we have the separate partitions;)
[03:16] <spine> awsome mabus u rox
[03:16] <spine> awsome mabus u rox
[03:16] <ithiel> I just maxed out my PCM, lol.
[03:16] <_smd_> dabaR: it would be a good idea
[03:16] <dabaR> ya...
[03:16] <synapsis_> i selected to install amsn, however it says that its not currently installable, but should be available in the 'universe' repository. would you like the enable this repositroy? anyone?
[03:16] <Mabus06> what's a good program to mount folders as drives, like daemon but for ubuntu (or can I get that for ubuntu...)?
[03:16] <Mabus06> !repose
[03:16] <ubotu> Mabus06: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[03:16] <Mabus06> !repos
[03:16] <ubotu> repos is probably How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[03:16] <Mabus06> synapsis_, ^^^
[03:16] <mclaren266> it says that nediswrapper is in a unsupported file
[03:17] <mclaren266> what do i do?
[03:17] <Mabus06> what is "it"
[03:17] <ithiel> we drift deeper into the sound, life goes oooonnnnnnn
[03:17] <ithiel> feelin strong
[03:17] <ithiel> so bring it ooonnnnnnnn
[03:17] <mclaren266> something to do with wireless networks .deb file
[03:17] <ithiel> so bring it oooononnnnnnnn
[03:18] <ithiel> embrace me, surround me, as the rush comes
[03:18] <Mabus06> use ndiswrapper to install .bin drivers from whatever driver cd came with your wirless adapter.
[03:18] <Mabus06> ithiel, #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:18] <pavelich> rabeldabel: yeah got it going just dled the ppd file and everythings working great, man i just need to try harder before i come with questions lol
[03:18] <misfit_toybuntu> ithiel, I take it you didn't have sound until now?
[03:18] <mclaren266> so how do i do this
[03:18] <Mabus06> read the link I pointed you to
[03:18] <ithiel> misfit_toybuntu, I did, its just that the radio finally played a good song (pandora.com)
[03:18] <ithiel> a REALLY good song
[03:18] <mclaren266> i did
[03:18] <Mabus06> You're doing something wrong obviously, which I can't tell you what it is. So just reread that.
[03:19] <mclaren266> can you send me the link again?
[03:19] <Mabus06> !wifi
[03:19] <ubotu> I guess wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:19] <sasquatc4> anyone know how to change the usplash graphics?
[03:19] <ithiel> sasquatc4, I wish.
[03:19] <ithiel> ubotu usplash
[03:19] <ubotu> usplash is, like, for your information, about Usplash : if you use a home-built kernel, required options are initramfs & framebuffer, that's all ... don't take any prerequisites used for bootsplash or patches in consideration
[03:19] <Dez[debian] > i get this everytime i try to unrar something -> unrar: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:19] <ithiel> ubotu thats the first time you've sounded like a valley girl man.
[03:19] <ubotu> ithiel: Syntax error in line 1
[03:20] <kapputu> has anyone used the patch version of interceptor.c ??
[03:20] <dabaR> Dez[debian] : for that, you just need to install that package.
[03:20] <dabaR> libstdc++5
[03:20] <rabeldable> I suggest clicking around for about an hour and checking out the OS.  ubuntu has some really great features and gnome has came along way in the last two years.
[03:20] <_brian> !w32codecs
[03:20] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/
[03:20] <ithiel> has come, but yes.
[03:21] <spine> MABUS, xine loads plays about a sec and crashes, do you happen to know if it is a driver problem?
[03:21] <rabeldable> I don't have any problems on my laptop, with a 17 in monitor, 1400x900 resolution, wireless and sound works, as a matter of fact I watched a dvd on it a few days ago with no problems either
[03:21] <srbaker> yo
[03:21] <PMantis> libdvdscc is not working on my system. Advice?  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4509
[03:21] <PMantis> libdvdcss, rather
[03:21] <srbaker> is there any presentation software for gnome?
[03:21] <synapsis_> i have yet to hook my internet up, however, i'm hoping that when i do ubuntu will recognize it. will this happen or will i have to configure?
[03:21] <rabeldable> !libdvdcss
[03:21] <ubotu> rabeldable: I haven't a clue
[03:21] <rabeldable> !libdwdcss2
[03:21] <ubotu> I don't know, rabeldable
[03:22] <ithiel> ubotu libdvdcss
[03:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there anything wrong with this line that should stop a user from being able to write to this drive? /dev/hdc1      /mnt/HD2        reiserfs rw,user       0       4
[03:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> /dev/hdc1      /mnt/HD2        reiserfs rw,user       0       4
[03:22] <ithiel> ubotu libdvdcss2
[03:22] <ubotu> libdvdcss2 is probably to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"
[03:22] <spine> MABUS, xine loads plays about a sec and crashes, do you happen to know if it is a driver problem?
[03:22] <Beuno> hey, Ive been trying for hours to get my Ati Mobility 9100 to accelerate something, I did all the how-to's and still seem to be using the mesa driver, any ideas?
[03:23] <rabeldable> Beuno: did you edit your xorg.conf file?
[03:23] <ithiel> ubotu tell Beuno about ati
[03:23] <spine> can anyone tell me why totem-xine loads the video and crashes
[03:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> Beuno did you rmmod the modules for the mesa and modprobe the right module
[03:23] <spine> does that sound like a driver isue
[03:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> spine you should run from command line and see the output.
[03:24] <ithiel> spine, libdvdcss2?
[03:24] <synapsis_> when i restart my computer, and hook the internet up to it, will ubuntu recognize that the internet is connected? or will i have to troubleshoot and figure out things i don't know?
[03:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> it should give you some clues, and you can google those error messages to find help
[03:24] <Beuno> broken no!   how do I do that?
[03:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> Beuno lsmod | grep mesa
[03:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> Beuno what does that say?
[03:24] <ithiel> synapsis_, you can prolly assume so yes
[03:24] <spine> thx, im not at strategizing computer usage
[03:24] <Beuno> absolutely nothing
[03:24] <rabeldable> synapsis_: reboot your computer and find out
[03:24] <spine> im not good*
[03:24] <synapsis_> grr ;)
[03:24] <PMantis> ubotu, I have it installed. In fact I was at UBZ asking why it can't crack some my my DVDs, and the persion that looked at it couldn't figure it out. I've remover, reinstalled libdvdread3, tried a couple different version of libdvdcss... doesn't crack all keys on a DVD. :(
[03:25] <ubotu> PMantis: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[03:25] <synapsis_> alright i'll bback in a few mins...
[03:25] <Beuno> BROKEN_LADDER nothing at all!
[03:25] <PMantis> ubotu, Did you look at the paste?
[03:25] <ubotu> PMantis: Not a clue
[03:25] <ithiel> PMantis, are you retarded?
[03:25] <rabeldable> PMantis: ubotu is a bot... you can try to talk to it but it wont be much of a convo
[03:25] <ithiel> ubotu tell PMantis about ubotu
[03:26] <ithiel> omg
[03:26] <ithiel> that is getting quoted
[03:26] <ithiel> !quotes
[03:26] <ubotu> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/quotes
[03:26] <mclaren266> does anyone know how to enable ClearType?
[03:26] <mclaren266> i dont know what it is called for linux
[03:26] <PMantis> ithiel, Thanks for helping.
[03:26] <Beuno> BROKEN_LADDER   is this good or bad?
[03:26] <ithiel> PMantis, welcome.
[03:27] <PMantis> ithiel, I appreacite being caled retarded
[03:27] <dabaR> cafuego_: ping
[03:27] <ithiel> PMantis, I appreciate getting a good laugh, its ok man, you're not the first
[03:27] <mclaren266> does anyone know how to enable ClearType
[03:28] <ithiel> mclaren266, no such thing on Linux, you can enable subpixel hinting for LCD's though
[03:28] <ithiel> go to system - preferences - font
[03:28] <Dez[debian] > is there codecs for Linux?
[03:28] <ithiel> play around, have fun
[03:28] <Dez[debian] > XviD DivX SVCD VCD blah blah
[03:28] <Beuno> brb, gonno try somethng else
[03:28] <ithiel> ubotu tell Dez[debian]  about win32codecs
[03:28] <mclaren266> will it do the same thing as microsofts clear type
[03:28] <ithiel> ubotu tell Dez[debian]  about restricted formats
[03:28] <Dez[debian] > :(
[03:28] <PMantis> ithiel, So anyway, anyone have a clue what a fully installed libdvdcss can't crack any of my DVDs?  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4509
[03:29] <ithiel> mclaren266, essentially yes, it looks better in my opinion though
[03:29] <mr-russ> its there a way to install ubuntu in a chroot environment?  not using debain as a base?
[03:29] <rabeldable> haha, i read the quote...
[03:29] <ithiel> mclaren266, try playing around with the options, choose what looks best to you
[03:29] <PMantis> ithiel, Well, except burned DVDd, but they're not encrypted, so.......
[03:29] <mclaren266> thanks
[03:30] <rabeldable> hey my words are copyright protected under the GPL, free to use and distribute as you wish ./\.
[03:30] <ithiel> ubotu tell PMantis about libdvdcss2
[03:31] <PMantis> ithiel, It's already installed. lol
[03:31] <ithiel> PMantis, well.
[03:31] <_smd_> I watched a good dvd today.
[03:31] <PMantis> I removed and reinstalled it a few times.
[03:31] <ithiel> PMantis, libdvdread3?
[03:31] <PMantis> ithiel, Yes.
[03:32] <ithiel> hmm
[03:32] <ithiel> totem-xine?
[03:32] <ithiel> lol...
[03:33] <PMantis> ithiel, like I said in Montreal, at UBZ. the one guy that looked at it coudn't figure out why it couldn't crack the DVD. We tried totem, mplayer, and one more (forgot).
[03:33] <varsendagger> _smd_, what dvd?
[03:33] <_smd_> the machinist.. messed up
[03:33] <varsendagger> i bet
[03:34] <PMantis> ithiel, Ahh, ogle... and I'm using totem-xine right now... tried totem-gstreamer earlier today.
[03:35] <varsendagger> hey is jre availible on a apt-get repo?
[03:35] <Pablo> no
[03:35] <varsendagger> i swear i saw it two weeks ago
[03:35] <dabaR> ubotu: tell varsendagger about java
[03:35] <PMantis> ON the same DVD, I see: libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_09_0.VOB at 0x003c6e71
[03:35] <PMantis> libdvdread: Elapsed time 0    <--- sccess, I assume
[03:35] <PMantis> *success
[03:35] <varsendagger> dabaR, 10-4
[03:36] <PMantis> thenuke, the next line: libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_09_1.VOB (0x003c6e75)!!
[03:36] <PMantis> Arrr, sorry thenuke
[03:36] <varsendagger> how aobut after i install it would it be coming up on a apt-cache search
[03:36] <ispiked> is there some sort of log for synaptic? like one that shows what I installed and when?
[03:37] <OptiPlex> hi ppl
[03:37] <OptiPlex> question: the file I need to give rhythmbox mp3 support IS gstreamer0.8-mad right?
[03:38] <b3nw> how to see what modules are loaded?
[03:38] <rabeldable> b3nw: don't know what modules your talking about
[03:38] <rabeldable> b3nw: kernel mods =  lsmod
[03:38] <psusi> b3nw, lsmod
[03:38] <b3nw> yeah thats it
[03:39] <b3nw> thx :)
[03:39] <ufk> do i need evms or lvm for sata to work properly on amd64?
[03:39] <psusi> or cat /proc/modules
[03:39] <psusi> ufk, no
[03:39] <kbrooks> bbl, bed
[03:39] <dabaR> ubotu: tell OptiPlex about mp3
[03:39] <psusi> ufk, why do you ask?
[03:39] <OptiPlex> ty
[03:39] <PMantis> Ok, many people joined. repeat: libdvdcss is installed, but is giving "error cracking"
[03:39] <PMantis> libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.9 for DVD access
[03:39] <glick> i dont get it i type in "the shape of my heart" into gtk-gnutella
[03:40] <glick> and i get hits like "jenna jamesson slurping the man meat" wtf!?
[03:40] <ufk> cause ubuntu amd64 livecd sees my drives. no other live cd of any other distro nor the kernel i'm trying to compile
[03:40] <kapputu> CAn someone tell me where to get a Cisco VPN client for Linux - I'm looking for version 4.0.3
[03:40] <psusi> ufk, see which driver it is using and make sure you enable that driver
[03:40] <underdog> guys, where can I find info on 5.10's unstable repositories?
[03:41] <misfit_toybuntu> anybody use GAIM-VV with voice/video support? is it stable?
[03:42] <psusi> ufk, try lspci to see what pci devices you have on the system... find the device number of your sata controler and look in /sys/devices/pci0000/:00 for the directory with that number... it should have a symlink named driver that shows the name of the driver
[03:42] <OptiPlex> propagandhi: let's try to update this thing again lol
[03:42] <ufk> that's what i'm tryin
[03:42] <psusi> this is when it is working from the livecd of course
[03:42] <ufk> lspci just shows me lots of unknown devices with no sata controller
[03:43] <psusi> ufk, this is from the livecd where it works?
[03:43] <OptiPlex> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA it works! w000t!
[03:43] <psusi> paste the output to pastebin
[03:44] <ufk> yeah
[03:44] <OptiPlex> heh
[03:44] <intelikey> heh just dl the server
[03:44] <Dez[debian] > is there Themes for ubuntu
[03:45] <Dez[debian] > the one im on now is to harsh on my stoner eyes
[03:45] <OptiPlex> The other day I tried to get universe/multiverse, and it kept timing out on me cause of gpg and slow dialup
[03:45] <OptiPlex> this time I removed one gpg key, and bam mp3 support
[03:45] <ufk> i'm trying to compile all ide and sata drivers, hope that will do :)
[03:45] <OptiPlex> ...now if I could only get my xvidtune settings to load on boot, I will be one happy f00 :}
[03:46] <PMantis> libdvdcss 1.2.9 installed with libdvdread3. Now see: "Error cracking CSS key for..."  Details: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4509
[03:46] <Victor_jiang> Who can tell me what sabdef means?
[03:46] <beuno> ok, still cant get the ATI drivers to work, I still get that Im using MESA and get 400fps, did all the how to's, I dont get any error, gust cant get it to work, any ideas?
[03:47] <ufk> it boots!!!!
[03:47] <ufk> yay!!!
[03:47] <OptiPlex> w00t :] 
[03:47] <ufk> thanks alot :)
[03:48] <Victor_jiang> Who can tell me what sabdef means?Thanks!
[03:48] <rabeldable> where are you getting that sabdef from?
[03:49] <Victor_jiang> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/governance
[03:49] <varsendagger> hey how do install flash with apt-get for firefox
[03:49] <OptiPlex> j'aime ubuntu :] 
[03:49] <intelikey> i cant believe this.   i think i fixed me keyborad resetting problem....    i noticed that symlink stderr was broken and so i made new device inodes std* and it seems to have fixed the keyboard.....  :)
[03:49] <rabeldable> SABDFL ?
[03:49] <OptiPlex> lol PDP-11 emulator..
[03:50] <theoddbot> anyone having issues with k8-smp kernel - seems to be hanging under heavy i/o
[03:50] <OptiPlex> is mac-on-linux any good?
[03:50] <beuno> ok, still cant get the ATI drivers to work, I still get that Im using MESA and get 400fps, did all the how to's, I dont get any errors, just cant get it to work, any ideas?
[03:50] <dabaR> rabeldable: ya, thats what he wants to know.
[03:50] <varsendagger> OptiPlex, what do you mean?
[03:50] <kapputu> CAn someone tell me where to get a Cisco VPN client for Linux - I'm looking for version 4.0.3
[03:51] <OptiPlex> the osx drivers
[03:51] <OptiPlex> i found it in synaptic... too bad I dont have my OSX cd's
[03:51] <theoddbot> kapputu: from what i remember, you need a cisco login or some google skillz to get it
[03:51] <Victor_jiang> yes,it is
[03:52] <dabaR> Victor_jiang: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabdfl
[03:52] <rabeldable> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/49
[03:53] <theoddbot> kapputu: try wget http://www.mcmaster.ca/cis/network/software/vpnclient-linux.tar.gz  dunno what version it is
[03:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone here have a sip phone?
[03:53] <intelikey> kapputu why not try "apt-cache search cisco "
[03:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> hey, if i have an iso of mac osx, do i need to probably move the iso to a hard drive to boot from it?  is that possible?
[03:53] <tyler> hey small error: dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[03:53] <tyler> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly
[03:54] <tyler> how do i fix this?
[03:54] <intelikey> vpnc - Cisco-compatible VPN client
[03:54] <beuno> still cant get the ATI drivers to work, I still get that Im using MESA instead of ATI Drivers, did all the how to's, I dont get any errors, just cant get it to work, any ideas?
[03:54] <OptiPlex> heh, OSX is too slow for me..
[03:54] <theoddbot> tyler: ah, i have had that before, hang on
[03:55] <kapputu> intelikey, does vpnc support Profile certificates?
[03:55] <intelikey> tyler is build-essential installed ?
[03:55] <tyler> no sir
[03:55] <theoddbot> tyler: try dpkg --configure --force-depends -a
[03:55] <intelikey> kapputu you know as much about it as i do.     try 'apt-cache show vpnc ' for a little more info.
[03:56] <theoddbot> that bloody cisco thing is hard enough to set up on mac never tried linux
[03:56] <tyler> dpkg --configure --force-depends -a
[03:56] <tyler> dpkg: blt: dependency problems, but configuring anyway as you request:
[03:56] <tyler>  blt depends on blt-common; however:
[03:56] <tyler>   Package blt-common is not installed.
[03:56] <tyler> Setting up blt (2.4z-3ubuntu1) ...
[03:57] <OptiPlex> ubuntu on ppc owns :] 
[03:57] <NightVision> ubuntu on turion64 ownz:D
[03:57] <OptiPlex> ..except for rhythmbox putting a pregap between mp3s :[
[03:57] <OptiPlex> heh, ppc64.. i bet THAT owns us all
[03:57] <NightVision> except for no w32 codecs
[03:57] <NightVision> heg
[03:57] <NightVision> heh
[03:58] <beuno> still cant get the ATI drivers to work, I still get that Im using MESA instead of ATI Drivers, did all the how to's, just cant get it to work, any ideas on where to look?
[03:58] <OptiPlex> heh GAMES *spaces out*
[03:58] <Ca[M] eL> i cannot get ubuntu to recognize my internet connection, can anyone help me out?
[03:59] <theoddbot> Ca[M] eL: what sort of connection ?
[03:59] <OptiPlex> woot fceu :] 
[03:59] <NightVision> does anyone know where to get the 64bit w32 codecs?
[03:59] <Ca[M] eL> theoddbot: dsl
[03:59] <theoddbot> NightVision: there is such a thing ?
[03:59] <NightVision> i think so
[03:59] <theoddbot> Ca[M] eL: behind a router or do you have to run a ppp client
[03:59] <Ramoned> anyone can help me with vsftpd ?
[03:59] <SEJeff> NightVision: w32codecs are not mp3. gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse has mp3
[03:59] <OptiPlex> aww no linux port of necrotech yet :[
[03:59] <OptiPlex> Ramoned: whatcha need to know? I may know something.
[03:59] <Ca[M] eL> theoddbot: neither, i'm not using a router, nor do i use a ppp client.
[04:00] <NightVision> ok
[04:00] <SEJeff> NightVision: Enable the multiverse repository and then search for the package I just said
[04:00] <Victor_jiang> Mark Shuttleworth is the only sabdef?
[04:00] <theoddbot> Ca[M] eL: modem is usb or ethernet ?
[04:00] <Ramoned> i installed vsftpd with apt but i have troubles with permissions
[04:00] <Ca[M] eL> theoddbot: ethernet
[04:00] <Victor_jiang> Mark Shuttleworth is ht only sabdfl?
[04:00] <Ca[M] eL> theoddbot: i was trying to enable the ethernet connection, however it just sat there.
[04:00] <Ramoned> i couldnt modify a file and now i can but i cant download the file
[04:00] <OptiPlex> Ramoned: try chmod
[04:00] <OptiPlex> oooh that sucks
[04:00] <theoddbot> Ca[M] eL: do you have to set a static ip ?
[04:00] <Ramoned> its 777
[04:01] <Ramoned> lol
[04:01] <Ca[M] eL> theoddbot: nope
[04:01] <OptiPlex> :[
[04:01] <theoddbot> wierd
[04:01] <beuno> Ca[M] eL what does ifconfig spit out?
[04:01] <Ca[M] eL> yeah i don't understand
[04:01] <theoddbot> so its a modem bridge job
[04:01] <Ca[M] eL> beuno: i have no idea, how can i figure that out
[04:01] <OptiPlex> lol supertux is da shiznit
[04:01] <ispiked> where can I find a log of the updates I've made with synaptic?
[04:01] <Ca[M] eL> keep in mind this is *first* time i've used ubuntu.
[04:01] <beuno> Ca[M] eL open a console and type:     sudo ifconfig
[04:01] <Ca[M] eL> so i've got a bunch of bonehead questions to ask
[04:02] <OptiPlex> lol I wish I had the bandwidth to DL tuxracer
[04:02] <beuno> Ca[M] eL   everyone has to start at some point  :D
[04:02] <OptiPlex> becasue I dont have the patience to get it on this connection heh
[04:02] <NightVision> yea dialup sux
[04:02] <minderaser> hello   new to linux  cant get sound card to work SB16 PnP please send me in right direction to solve the problem
[04:02] <Ca[M] eL> beuno: how can i get to the console =P
[04:03] <theoddbot> Ca[M] eL: try alt-f2 type gnome-terminal
[04:03] <beuno> Ca[M] eL  private message me and we'll take it from there
[04:03] <everton_2> Hi, I'm with skype working on gnome. But after the 1st time I run (echo123 or talk to a friend) it sayd the sound is not working anymore. does someone experienced this?
[04:03] <OptiPlex> Nightvision: I wish we could get cable around here, I'd wardrive/canteena my connection
[04:03] <onkarshinde> which is the graphical partitioning tool available in breezy by default?
[04:03] <beuno> still cant get the ATI drivers to work, I still get that Im using MESA instead of ATI Drivers, did all the how to's, just cant get it to work, any ideas on where to look?
[04:03] <OptiPlex> stick it on top of my house :[
[04:03] <SEJeff> onkarshinde: use gparted
[04:03] <Ca[M] eL> theoddbot: thanks
[04:03] <intelikey> Ramoned 777 = rwxrwxrwx     it is the binary permissions  of   111111111   devided into three three bit bites  exec=1 write=2 read=4  4+2+1=7
[04:03] <psusi> onkarshinde: gparted
[04:03] <NightVision> if i walk 1/2 mile i can leach off a wifi connection...
[04:04] <onkarshinde> psusi: SEJeff: It seems it didn't get installed when I upgraded
[04:04] <psusi> onkarshinde: you have to install it
[04:04] <onkarshinde> psusi:
[04:04] <onkarshinde> psusi: Ok
[04:04] <OptiPlex> Nightvision: Im like 200 yards across the stateline, and they get cable on the other side
[04:04] <OptiPlex> ok, maybe 50 yds :[
[04:04] <tyler> l
[04:04] <NightVision> lol
[04:04] <OptiPlex> 500 lol
[04:04] <psusi> SEJeff, do you know how to enable debug level printk messages?  preferably from a specific module?
[04:04] <OptiPlex> I need to climb a tree with a pringles can :] 
[04:05] <beuno> no one else had to deal with ati drivers?  :(
[04:05] <onkarshinde> by the way, has anyone faced problem of deleted package list (uni, multi) in synaptic. I have to apt-get update on every reboot
[04:05] <Ramoned> 777 666 644
[04:05] <Ramoned> nothing works
[04:05] <theoddbot> beuno: no we all use nvidia :)
[04:05] <beuno> lol, I used to
[04:05] <Ramoned> i cant open the file
[04:05] <OptiPlex> I use ATI, but its a stock apple part :] 
[04:05] <OptiPlex> Ramoned: dont tell me you forgot to ./ it :] 
[04:06] <Ramoned> nop
[04:06] <Ramoned> for example
[04:06] <OptiPlex> well, I got nothing on that now
[04:06] <beuno> I just changed to a new laptop, so Im trying to get it working
[04:06] <Ramoned> i created a new acc
[04:06] <Ramoned> called test
[04:06] <Ramoned> oploaded a index.php
[04:06] <minderaser> is this a help site?
[04:06] <OptiPlex> omfg, you are Screewwwwwed man.
[04:06] <Ramoned> uploaded*
[04:06] <Ramoned> i cant view it
[04:06] <OptiPlex> minderaser: yes, even though I spout random comments in here
[04:06] <superbeast> to get wine by apt-get what do i uncomment in sources.list?
[04:07] <intelikey> minderaser some times
[04:07] <OptiPlex> :[
[04:07] <onkarshinde> by the way, has anyone faced problem of deleted package list (uni, multi) in synaptic. I have to apt-get update on every reboot
[04:07] <Xenguy> minderaser: yes
[04:07] <psusi> SEJeff, you go away, or don't know?
[04:07] <minderaser> where to go for SB12 PnP help in ubuntu 5.10
[04:07] <chris_> anyone knows any radio automation software for breezy or linux
[04:07] <minderaser> SB16
[04:08] <crimsun> minderaser: sudo modprobe snd-sb16
[04:08] <superbeast> to get wine by apt-get what do i uncomment in sources.list?
[04:08] <minderaser> thanks
[04:08] <intelikey> #PhP maybe ? minderaser
[04:09] <pavelich> http://rafb.net/paste/results/YP2E1M98.html,  can someone help me i think i have all my functions, but what i really dont know what to do is the main function, the program is supposed to input a string as MMDDYYYY or MDDYYYY and convert to int, check to see if it is all digits, and print out as November 1, 2005
[04:09] <minderaser> plug and pray
[04:09] <Ca[M] eL> unfortunately i didn't configure the DHCP or whatever when i installed ubuntu, is that the reason why my internet connection isn't workin?
[04:09] <OptiPlex> minderaser: I say that to everyone lol
[04:09] <theoddbot> Ca[M] eL: try dhclient eth0 or similar
[04:09] <pavelich> sorry i am pretty bad and new but i need help
[04:10] <onkarshinde> superbeast: How can we tell wht to uncomment if we don't know what is commented
[04:10] <minderaser> first shot at linux
[04:10] <intelikey> superbeast pool/universe/w/wine/wine_0.0.20050310-1.1_i386.deb  looks like universe
[04:10] <superbeast> onkarshinde it is default
[04:10] <minderaser> getting a real lesson
[04:10] <pavelich> anyone?
[04:10] <Dez[debian] > anyoen know what that prog is that lets you vew system stats in a little box grellm or something like that
[04:10] <OptiPlex> I swear, if the freebsd project and ubuntu merged, we would have a perfect OS
[04:10] <onkarshinde> superbeast: Ok. You have to uncomment the line that contains word 'universe'
[04:10] <OptiPlex> pavelich: just ask, someone will answer. I was told that too
[04:10] <theoddbot> Dez[debian] : yeah gkrellm2 i think these days
[04:11] <onkarshinde> by the way, has anyone faced problem of deleted package list (uni, multi) in synaptic???? I have to apt-get update on every reboot
[04:11] <durt> what are you talking about optiplex? craziness
[04:11] <Xenguy> linux doesn't need fbsd (it takes what it wants already)
[04:11] <minderaser> brb gonna try again
[04:11] <OptiPlex> durt: FreeBSD and Ubuntu simply OWN in different ways
[04:12] <OptiPlex> durt: if both projects became one, no one could stop the product :] 
[04:12] <OptiPlex> true, but the way FreeBSD is developed is standardized.
[04:12] <chris_> radio automation software for linux anyone knows any
[04:12] <OptiPlex> which just kicks ass
[04:13] <intelikey> optiplex  it wouldn't be that hard to stop it.    i could pull the plug out of the wall :)
[04:13] <Xenguy> OptiPlex: it's a Cathedral more than a Bazaar -- that's one of the reasons I prefer GNU/Linux
[04:13] <onkarshinde> OptiPlex: One main problem. FreeBSD is BSD licensed. Ubuntu is GPLed
[04:13] <OptiPlex> intelikey: but of course :] 
[04:13] <OptiPlex> Xenguy: ...but I like Catholics !
[04:13] <Xenguy> Plus BSD is a limp-dick license
[04:13] <OptiPlex> onkarshinde: ...now don't y'all get all penguin-gang on me.
[04:14] <intelikey> birds of a fether :)
[04:14] <OptiPlex> Xenguy: one thing that is constant from FreeBSD to Ubuntu is that everything must be downloaded. Hence the light weight. :] 
[04:14] <Ca[M] eL> anyone have an idea of how i can get ubuntu to recognize my internet connection?
[04:14] <OptiPlex> ..and FreeBSD is just easy as hell, just like Ubuntu :] 
[04:15] <intelikey> not without more info Ca[M] eL
[04:15] <NightVision> ifconfig? pump -i eth0
[04:15] <onkarshinde> OptiPlex: No I am not. But consider this. FessBSD and Ubuntu combines. unfortunately part of the system is BSD licensed. M$ steals that part and makes an OS that is not only good looking but also stable.
[04:15] <Xenguy> OptiPlex: seriously, the GPL license is a big factor in my preferences - I will always support Linux becuase of that
[04:15] <theoddbot> Ca[M] eL: did you try: dhclient eth0
[04:15] <Ca[M] eL> i'll do that now
[04:15] <Xenguy> Ca[M] eL: DHCP or static IP?
[04:15] <OptiPlex> :[
[04:15] <varsendagger> BsDubuntu will be sop cool you don't even know
[04:16] <OptiPlex> onkarshinde: if M$ EVER makes a stable OS, I will buy it because it most likely wont happen anytime soon
[04:16] <Ca[M] eL> theoddbot: permission denied twice, couldn't create whatever it wanted to do. couldn't set group id: operation not permitted
[04:16] <OptiPlex> BSD/ubuntu would be looks+stability+1337ness :] 
[04:16] <intelikey> GNU
[04:16] <theoddbot> Ca[M] eL: sudo dhclient eth0
[04:16] <intelikey> GPL
[04:16] <intelikey> GNU
[04:16] <intelikey> GPL
[04:16] <onkarshinde> OptiPlex: 8-)
[04:16] <Xenguy> varsendagger: linux has already surpassed bsd AFAICT - but yes, I am biased
[04:16] <OptiPlex> I feel bad about putting XP Home on my Mom's computer
[04:16] <beuno> still cant get the ATI drivers to work, I still get that Im using MESA instead of ATI Drivers, did all the how to's, just cant get it to work, any ideas on where to look?   (eventually some ATI user's gotto look at the screen)
[04:16] <OptiPlex> ...because Ubuntu didnt like her soundcard
[04:17] <intelikey> OptiPlex you should feel bad....
[04:17] <OptiPlex> heh
[04:17] <OptiPlex> she hates M$ as much as I do
[04:17] <OptiPlex> besides... Ubuntu likes her digital camera and it has TETRIS *the trump card* :D
[04:18] <intelikey> and it's probably warez xp at that.
[04:18] <cavalry> how can I get a list of users that have never logged in?
[04:18] <Ca[M] eL> theoddbot: do i have to have the network cable attached to the computer? because i notice its doing a ping or whatever.
[04:18] <Ca[M] eL> i'm not using a network here.
[04:18] <OptiPlex> intelikey: it came with her computer :[ I tried my XP Pro bootleg but her computer came with a DVD full of drivers/crap
[04:18] <OptiPlex> ..and I can get XP Pro legit free too. *contradictory*
[04:19] <intelikey>  /kill NightVision
[04:19] <theoddbot> Ca[M] eL: you said your modem is ethernet ....
[04:19] <NightVision> lol
[04:19] <Ca[M] eL> theoddbot: its dsl.
[04:20] <Xenguy> Ca[M] eL: pppoe ?
[04:20] <theoddbot> Ca[M] eL: dsl is a phone line, it goes to a modem, and the modem plugs into the computer somewhow
[04:20] <OptiPlex> speaking of M$, there is ONE class in my school's IT dept. that is dedicated to linux
[04:20] <leetbox> hello, has anyone built stepmania 4.0 cvs for ubuntu?
[04:20] <Sashi> a question
[04:20] <OptiPlex> there are like 7 classes on M$ server 03, Im switching majors tomorrow..
[04:20] <Sashi> i have a partition and im on the LiveCD
[04:20] <Ca[M] eL> theoddbot: ahaha, i know, remember i'm a windows user, i know absolutely nothing. which is why i wanna stop using windows, so i don't get into situations like this =)
[04:21] <beuno> Ca[M] eL : you have to use pppoe
[04:21] <Sashi> how do i mount the FS so its write too?
[04:21] <Ca[M] eL> beuno: i have no idea what pppoe is.
[04:21] <OptiPlex> Ca(M)eL: the first time I used linux I had to spend $30 on a modem
[04:21] <onkarshinde> HPlease tell me. Has anyone faced problem of deleted package list (uni, multi) in synaptic? I have to apt-get update on every reboot
[04:21] <theoddbot> beuno: it depends, some modems are smart and run a half-bridge, unwrap the ppp packets and dump them out the ethernet
[04:21] <Elock> How can I verify my JRE is installed correctly?
[04:21] <OptiPlex> in 4 yrs of linux, that's ALL I've spent on conversion fees :] 
[04:21] <beuno> Ca[M] eL type:  pppoe      in the console
[04:21] <Ca[M] eL> beuno: k
[04:21] <OptiPlex> onkarshinde: did you deselect the repositories manually?
[04:21] <bur[n] er> Ca[M] eL: better yet... "man pppoe"
[04:21] <Sashi> anyone?
[04:22] <beuno> heh
[04:22] <Ca[M] eL> beuno: command not found
[04:22] <onkarshinde> OptiPlex: What do you mean?
[04:22] <Ca[M] eL> no manual entry for pppoe
[04:22] <beuno> ok then:  apt-get install pppoe
[04:22] <Sashi> eh?
[04:22] <bur[n] er> Ca[M] eL: u have DSL that plugs directly to your PC?  there's no DSL modem or router?
[04:22] <theoddbot> sudo pppoeconf
[04:22] <Sashi> i mean
[04:22] <theoddbot> maybe
[04:22] <Sashi> to mount it
[04:22] <OptiPlex> like.. when they updated did you unclick them in the drop-down menu?
[04:22] <Sashi> so its write-acess
[04:22] <OptiPlex> ..because I did that, but that was just DUMB :|
[04:22] <intelikey> is it ntfs ?
[04:22] <Ca[M] eL> bur[n] er: phone jack -> modem -> network wire -> network card
[04:22] <Sashi> yea
[04:22] <OptiPlex> mount -t /dev/hdaX /windows
[04:22] <bur[n] er> Ca[M] eL: u don't need pppoe
[04:23] <Sashi> alrighty
[04:23] <Sashi> thc
[04:23] <OptiPlex> i know this one...
[04:23] <Ramoned> ok
[04:23] <Ramoned> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:23] <Ramoned> See `config.log' for more details.
[04:23] <OptiPlex> sudo network-admin
[04:23] <onkarshinde> OptiPlex: I don't understand what drop down menu you are talking about. I hand edited sources.list file
[04:23] <Ramoned> its just me or ubuntu have several permissions problems ?
[04:23] <Ca[M] eL> beuno: permission denied, and unable to lock the list directory
[04:23] <bur[n] er> permissions problems?
[04:23] <theoddbot> Ramoned: something like: apt-get install binutils-dev
[04:23] <intelikey> Sashi ntfs write under linux is hap hazard at best.
[04:23] <beuno> ramoned: its just you
[04:23] <OptiPlex> onkarshinde: oh well, i guess I didn't think of that :] 
[04:23] <ithiel> Ramoned, stop using sudo for GUI programs
[04:23] <Shadowline> anyone here use xawtv ?
[04:24] <Ramoned> i am not using sudo
[04:24] <Mabus06> what is a good program to make .iso files from folders?
[04:24] <Ramoned> i am logged in as root
[04:24] <fbafelipe> how do I set an environment variable?
[04:24] <OptiPlex> Kino any good?
[04:24] <bur[n] er> Mabus06: graveman?
[04:24] <Ca[M] eL> theoddbot: should i type sudo pppoeconf ?
[04:24] <beuno> Ca[M] eL  sorry, its pppoeconfig   but burner seems to think you dont need it, so I dont know
[04:24] <OptiPlex> Mabus06: k3b or cdbakeoven are good, dunno if cdbakeoven is in ubuntu though
[04:24] <beuno> Ca[M] eL  yes
[04:24] <Elock> Note sure if my question was missed or the answer unknown but... How can I tell if my java runtime environment is installed correctly on Hoary?(I can't get azureus to work, and I'm not sure I set up java properly)
[04:24] <Mabus06> ok bur[n] er and what about a program to mount isos?
[04:24] <theoddbot> Ca[M] eL: give it a shot, i've not tried it
[04:24] <Ca[M] eL> found 1 ethernet device
[04:25] <intelikey> Sashi if possable use a fat32 partition for access from linux and windows.   that is the safe way.
[04:25] <onkarshinde> Ca[M] eL: What are you trying to do? If it is DSL then sudo pppoeconf
[04:25] <mobus> I forgot the name of the plugin for xmms that allows you to use it as an alarm clock.  Does anyone remember the name? and is it in synaptic?
[04:25] <mobus> anyone?
[04:25] <Ca[M] eL> onkarshinde: i'm trying to get ubuntu to recognize my internet, so i can use it, rather than sit on this laptop trying to get the net to work
[04:25] <Ramoned> theoddbot no binutils-dev
[04:25] <Sashi> ack
[04:25] <beuno> Mabus06 linux mounts isos just like they where a hardrive  try this:  sudo mkdir /media/iso
[04:25] <Ramoned> didnt helped
[04:25] <Sashi> mount -t /dev/hda1
[04:25] <beuno> then sudo modprobe loop
[04:26] <beuno> then
[04:26] <onkarshinde> Ca[M] eL: Is it DSL?
[04:26] <Sashi> doesnt work
[04:26] <beuno> sudo mount file.iso /media/iso/ -t iso9660 -o loop
[04:26] <Ca[M] eL> beuno: k, it found the device.
[04:26] <Cole> hey does anyone know if Ubuntu is going to offer a pre-built vmware virtual machine?
[04:26] <beuno> Ca[M] eL   great!  : )
[04:26] <OptiPlex> anyone ever use Kino?
[04:26] <Ca[M] eL> beuno: its doin some stuff now
[04:26] <Ca[M] eL> onkarshinde: yes
[04:26] <Sashi> ?
[04:26] <beuno> stuff is good
[04:26] <fbafelipe> how do I set an environment variable?
[04:26] <Xenguy> fbafelipe: set
[04:27] <onkarshinde> Ca[M] eL: pppoeconf is simplest way to configure
[04:27] <fanopnaic> fbafelipe: export VAR=foo
[04:27] <Ca[M] eL> alright
[04:27] <intelikey> Sashi where do you want it mounted "sudo mount /dev/hda1 <mount_point> "   you must supply a mount point.
[04:27] <beuno> fbafelipe:   http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#setsystem-wideenvironmentvariables
[04:27] <Xenguy> fbafelipe: what fanopnaic said works
[04:27] <Ca[M] eL> i figure i have to stick this network connection into the other box
[04:27] <Ca[M] eL> cuz it was looking for it
[04:27] <fbafelipe> i want to configure the system to configure automatic...
[04:27] <Ca[M] eL> good idea?
[04:28] <beuno> yes, please re do the whole thing with the network plugged in so it can find your modem
[04:28] <Ca[M] eL> alright
[04:28] <Ca[M] eL> brb
[04:28] <beuno> k
[04:28] <beuno> and now, I insist
[04:28] <beuno> still cant get the ATI drivers to work, I still get that Im using MESA instead of ATI Drivers, did all the how to's, just cant get it to work, any ideas on where to look?
[04:28] <Mabus06> OptiPlex, bur[n] er, beuno... graveman can't burn iso files from folders, any suggestions?\
[04:28] <OptiPlex> I suggested K3B of cdbakeoven for burning .isos
[04:29] <Xenguy> fbafelipe: set the configuration in ~/.bash_profile
[04:29] <r00723r0> hi
[04:29] <OptiPlex> or..
[04:29] <beuno> Mabus06 have you tried this:  http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#cddvdburning   ?
[04:29] <onkarshinde> Is it possible to resize /usr partition from withng ubuntu session?
[04:29] <r00723r0> i cant set up my wireless
[04:29] <Mabus06> cdbakeoven is not on ubuntu
[04:29] <r00723r0> how can i set up my wireless?
[04:29] <OptiPlex> Mabus06: k3b?
[04:29] <Mabus06> !wifi
[04:29] <ubotu> wifi is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[04:29] <onkarshinde> beuno: which ATI card?
[04:29] <OptiPlex> it owns
[04:29] <theoddbot> onkarshinde: if you mount it readonly and pray
[04:29] <onkarshinde> theoddbot: Ok. Thanks
[04:29] <beuno> onkarshinde Ati Radeon Mobility 9100 U3 (R200 IGP)
[04:29] <Mabus06> OptiPlex, is that for gnome or not?
[04:29] <theoddbot> actually, i dont think parted will touch it if its mounted
[04:29] <OptiPlex> wild guess on time to DL kde on 28.8? :] 
[04:30] <OptiPlex> k3b is kde :[
[04:30] <r00723r0> how can i set up my wireless card?
[04:30] <onkarshinde> beuno: Sorry I have to go. Electricity gone
[04:30] <OptiPlex> I should request CD's of Kubuntu Breezy
[04:30] <Sashi> its cuz
[04:30] <jbroome> good reason to leave
[04:30] <beuno> just my luck...
[04:30] <OptiPlex> or whatever the K version is called
[04:30] <Sashi> hmmm
[04:30] <Cole> hey does anyone know if Ubuntu is going to offer a pre-built vmware virtual machine?
[04:30] <fbafelipe> Xengu: I already edited .bash_profile, when I open the console the variable is set, but when I exec a script it's not
[04:31] <fanopnaic> fbafelipe: .bash_profile is only executed by login shells. you need .bashrc for interactive shells.
[04:31] <Xenguy> fbafelipe: hmmm, not sure about that kind of requirement
[04:31] <nba> anybody pls., can't play mp3 in my linux ubuntu hoary, wat shall i do
[04:31] <r00723r0> how can i set up my wireless card?
[04:31] <beuno> nba is this a fresh install?
[04:31] <Mabus06> thanks for the link beuno
[04:32] <synapsis_> hey its Ca[M] eL
[04:32] <synapsis_> thanks for your help
[04:32] <synapsis_> it works =D
[04:32] <synapsis_> i'm so pleased
[04:32] <fbafelipe> I already edited .bashrc too
[04:32] <beuno> Mabus06:  your welcome
[04:32] <OptiPlex> woot!
[04:32] <intelikey> fbafelipe try /etc/profile ?
[04:32] <fanopnaic> fbafelipe: which is why you should put it into .bashrc, because .bash_profile includes .bashrc, and therefore you have it in both kinds of shells.
[04:32] <theoddbot> ha cool synapsis_
[04:32] <beuno> synapsis_   your welcome too  :)
[04:32] <synapsis_> seriously, i'm so pumped now
[04:32] <fanopnaic> hmmm.
[04:32] <nba> beuno: ther's an error msg, can't play parse
[04:32] <Victor_jiang> Who is the chairman to Community Council ?
[04:32] <fbafelipe> I edited /etc/profile too
[04:32] <synapsis_> i've been waiting for this since 12 =P
[04:32] <beuno> things are easier the they seem
[04:32] <raydio> how do I change permissions on windows partitions ?
[04:33] <intelikey> fbafelipe also ls -l /bin/sh   and see if it is bash or dash  that may be why.
[04:33] <r00723r0> how can i set up my wireless card damnit
[04:33] <beuno> nba  have you ever been able to play mp3's?
[04:33] <r00723r0> there is no sit0
[04:33] <synapsis_> now i'm gunna try and get amsn kickin
[04:33] <nba> beuno: nope
[04:33] <dooglus> it's best not to put it in .bashrc.  .bashrc gets run every time you run a shell, which is a waste.
[04:33] <mobus> I just downloaded and installed gcc from apt-get, and when I tried to install a program it says gcc cannot create executables.  how do I fix this?
[04:33] <nba> beuno: but it plays on audio cd
[04:33] <beuno> synapsis_  Im a fan of Gaim, but have fun!
[04:33] <dooglus> mobus: install build-essential
[04:33] <fbafelipe> its bash
[04:33] <fanopnaic> fbafelipe: did you prepend a $ ? because that would be wrong :)
[04:33] <synapsis_> beuno: seriously...
[04:33] <nba> beuno: not mp3's
[04:34] <beuno> nba:  take a look at:    http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[04:34] <theoddbot> mobus: try apt-get install build-essentials
[04:34] <Victor_jiang> Nobody knows about it?
[04:34] <synapsis_> beuno: whats the difference?  any place you'd recommend for me to check before i install?
[04:34] <fbafelipe> no, i didint put $
[04:34] <dooglus> fbafelipe: did you use 'export'?
[04:34] <fbafelipe> yes
[04:34] <beuno> synapsis_  no,  sudo apt-get install amsn should do it
[04:34] <nba> beuno: thanks
[04:35] <mobus> dooglus: so far its working
[04:35] <dooglus> fbafelipe: if you run a shell and type "env | grep whatever-your-variable-is-called", do you see it?
[04:35] <beuno> synapsis_   most of the stuff you should be able to install with apt-get
[04:35] <intelikey> so is sh pointed at bash or dash fbafelipe ?
[04:35] <r00723r0> can someone help with my wireless
[04:35] <beuno> did you take a look at:  http://www.ubuntuguide.org/  ?
[04:35] <r00723r0> please
[04:35] <mobus> I fixed the gcc problem but there's bound to be another with my luck
[04:35] <beuno> nba :  welcome  : )
[04:35] <fbafelipe> dooglus: its dont send any ansower
[04:35] <beuno> still cant get the ATI drivers to work, I still get that Im using MESA instead of ATI Drivers, did all the how to's, just cant get it to work, any ideas on where to look?
[04:35] <fbafelipe> its pointed at bash
[04:35] <dooglus> fbafelipe: what does "ps | grep $$" tell you?
[04:35] <synapsis_> beuno: i assume that you encourage me to get friendly with the prompt?
[04:36] <Mr_singha> can someone please help me....i cant seem to get bittorrent to run.....
[04:36] <fbafelipe> 10688 pts/0    00:00:00 bash
[04:36] <dooglus> fbafelipe: what does "grep your-variable-name ~/.bashrc" tell you?
[04:36] <beuno> synapsis_  yes, very much, although Synaptic can do the apt-get stuff for you, Im a fan of the console
[04:36] <beuno> don't think you can live in linux without it
[04:36] <r00723r0> someone help me damnit
[04:36] <beuno> Mr_singha  any specific client?
[04:36] <fbafelipe> no ansower
[04:36] <r00723r0> how do i set up wireless
[04:37] <mobus> ok now it says I don't have glib, but synaptic says I do
[04:37] <dooglus> fbafelipe: so the line's not in your .bashrc.
[04:37] <beuno> r00723r0  what wireless card do you have?
[04:37] <Duelus> how do I get azures from synaptic?
[04:37] <Mr_singha> ???
[04:37] <r00723r0> belkin
[04:37] <dooglus> put the "export VAR=value" in your ~/.gnomerc and restart gnome.
[04:37] <fbafelipe> I am trying to edit the variable PATH
[04:37] <r00723r0> wireless g+
[04:37] <beuno> Duelus  are you on breezy?
[04:37] <Duelus> beuno Yes
[04:37] <Mr_singha> yes
[04:37] <fbafelipe> i tryed, bvut i already removed
[04:37] <synapsis_> beuno: i'm learning that very fast =)
[04:38] <dooglus> fbafelipe: you can put something like "export PATH=/home/chris/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/X11R6/bin" in your ~/.bashrc
[04:38] <beuno> Duelus  bad news, azureus aint working out of the box for breezy, you have to manually install jse 1.5 and download the azureus deb...  its a loooong process and I cant seem to find the url right now, i recommend googling
[04:38] <fbafelipe> i want to include the binaries of java into the path
[04:38] <r00723r0> beuno, belkin wireless g+
[04:38] <synapsis_> i'm trying to figure out how to get hooked into the 'universe' thing
[04:38] <Duelus> ok
[04:38] <fbafelipe> in slackware i just edit /etc/profile and it work...
[04:38] <mobus> agh where do I get a working bersion of glob?
[04:38] <jah_raztah> this is ubuntu
[04:38] <dooglus> fbafelipe: in breezy you just edit the /etc/gdm/gdm.conf thing and it work the same way
[04:39] <beuno> r00723r0  what does "ifconfig" spit out?
[04:39] <r00723r0> lemme check
[04:39] <mobus> someone where can I get glib 1.2.6 or better?
[04:39] <dooglus> fbafelipe: that is a system-wide change.  edit the "DefaultPath=" in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[04:39] <NightVision> is there a .deb of gstreamer0.8 somewhere?
[04:39] <fbafelipe> ok, i will try it, thanks
[04:39] <beuno> still cant get the ATI Moble 9100 drivers to work, I still get that Im using MESA instead of ATI Drivers, did all the how to's, just cant get it to work, any ideas on where to look?
[04:40] <dooglus> does anyone know how I can delete the last 500 bytes of every file in a directory?
[04:40] <theoddbot> dooglus: some dd magic maybe
[04:41] <dooglus> theoddbot: good idea, thanks.
[04:41] <theoddbot> dooglus: if you can do it for 1 file the rest is easy :)
[04:41] <dooglus> theoddbot: sure
[04:41] <theoddbot> ah head or tail maybe
[04:41] <mobus> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4513
[04:41] <OptiPlex> ok now Im scared.. 15MB download on dialup
[04:41] <OptiPlex> ...be seeing you in several hours.
[04:41] <mobus> please someone help me fix this
[04:41] <dooglus> theoddbot: head -c -n <size-500> would do it - but how do you find the size?
[04:42] <misfit_toybuntu> yoi
[04:42] <theoddbot> dooglus: head -c -n -500
[04:42] <misfit_toybuntu> why is nickserv so ignorant sometimes...demanding recognition when you already have it? duh.
[04:42] <theoddbot> oh
[04:42] <theoddbot> head -c -500
[04:42] <dooglus> theoddbot: that will give me the first 500 bytes...
[04:42] <beuno> still cant get the ATI Moble 9100 drivers to work, I still get that Im using MESA instead of ATI Drivers, did all the how to's, just cant get it to work, any ideas on where to look?
[04:43] <dooglus> theoddbot: I want all bytes except the last 500
[04:43] <theoddbot> dooglus: then tail -c -500
[04:43] <theoddbot> except tail doesnt seem to have the -
[04:43] <theoddbot> crazy
[04:45] <dooglus> theoddbot: that will give me the last 500 bytes.  I want the rest.
[04:45] <theoddbot> dooglus: yep
[04:45] <Cole> he wants from 1 until 500 from the end
[04:45] <leetbox> anyone with stepmania building experience?
[04:46] <theoddbot> Cole: yeah, its tricky :)
[04:46] <Cole> theoddbot: how do you get the size of a file in bytes?
[04:46] <theoddbot> use perl lol
[04:46] <dooglus> theoddbot: I found a way:    for i in *; do head -c$(($(stat -c%s "$i")-500)) "$i" > $i.chopped; done
[04:46] <synapsis_> i'm looking to install amsn, but it says that other packages will be affected, will this in any way upset/screw up other programs?
[04:47] <theoddbot> ah stat, i was looking for fstat
[04:47] <tiann> i am net-installing ubuntu and keep getting 'temp failure resolving ca.archive.ubuntu.com' how do i change to another one in the installation process?
[04:47] <dooglus> theoddbot: I didn't know about $((...)) in bash either.  that's a nice trick :)
[04:48] <theoddbot> $() is the same as `` but you can nest them :)
[04:48] <Cole> dooglus: may i ask why you want to crop all of the files?
[04:48] <dooglus> theoddbot: no, I knew about $().  I didn't know about $(())
[04:48] <dooglus> theoddbot: $() is for process substitution.  $(()) is for arithmetic substitution.
[04:48] <theoddbot> yep
[04:49] <varsendagger> what does tail do?
[04:49] <dooglus> Cole: I was using bitcomet to download some stuff.  it stopped working halfway through a download.  I'm left with lots of partially downloaded files.  each one has a .bc! extension and 508 bytes of crap on the end of it, which azureus refuses to resume for me.
[04:49] <theoddbot> ha
[04:49] <Cole> ahh i c..
[04:49] <synapsis_> anyone? i'm looking to install amsn, but it says that other packages will be affected, will this in any way upset/screw up other programs?
[04:50] <bnD> wow, ive never used gaim for irc, how interesting it is
[04:50] <dooglus> Cole: azureus tells me the files are too big.  If I chop the 508 bytes of crap off the end and remove the .bc! extension then azureus will be happy
[04:50] <bnD> irc buddy list, wee
[04:50] <bnD> hey dooglus, hows it going
[04:50] <dooglus> hey bnD.  how was dinner?
[04:50] <bnD> dooglus: lol tasty
[04:50] <theoddbot> synapsis_: on mine it asks to install 6 others, is i the same for you ?
[04:50] <Cole> dooglus: yeah i get it.. thats wierd that bc us does that
[04:50] <theoddbot> synapsis_: if so dont worry, it will be fine
[04:51] <dooglus> Cole: I guess it uses it for some kind of sanity checking, so save having to do a complete hash-check when resuming
[04:51] <varsendagger> i wnat to tail something what does it do? how di i do it?
[04:51] <r00723r0_> sorry, beuno
[04:51] <Cole> dooglus: yeah i've always just used azureus
[04:51] <r00723r0_> it gives me lo
[04:51] <theoddbot> varsendagger: prints out the last 10 lines of the file
[04:51] <r00723r0_> and thats it
[04:51] <theoddbot> varsendagger: man tail
[04:52] <r00723r0_> obviously, i cant switch computers on the fly
[04:52] <r00723r0_> oh shit
[04:52] <r00723r0_> can i have help with my wireless?
[04:52] <LeeJunFan> what's the standard way to force a module to load on boot with the current modprobe.d setup?
[04:52] <r00723r0_> i have a belkin wireless g+
[04:53] <theoddbot> LeeJunFan: /etc/modules i think
[04:53] <r00723r0_> i tried lspci, the only thing close to that is "unknown device"
[04:53] <r00723r0_> my ifconfig only shows lo
[04:54] <r00723r0_> can i have help with my wireless?
[04:54] <theoddbot> r00723r0_: you probably need ndiswrapper voodoo
[04:54] <r00723r0_> what?
[04:54] <r00723r0_> what si that
[04:55] <r00723r0_> *is
[04:55] <LeeJunFan> cool, though maybe that changed. thanks
[04:55] <bnD> anyone recommend a package for use with downloading large attachments from usenet? ie(GB's at a time?)
[04:55] <synapsis_> theodd: says could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade =(
[04:55] <theoddbot> r00723r0_: it wraps the windows wireless drivers so you can use them for linux
[04:55] <beuno> still cant get the ATI Moble 9100 drivers to work, I still get that Im using MESA instead of ATI Drivers, did all the how to's, just cant get it to work, any ideas on where to look?
[04:56] <theoddbot> r00723r0: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[04:56] <r00723r0> theoddbot, apt-get install ndiswrapper ?
[04:56] <theoddbot> r00723r0: try it, i've only done it once
[04:57] <synapsis_> theoddbot: should i try apt-get install amsn ?
[04:57] <alpha> anyone here have an amd64bit cpu and running 32bit ubuntu newest build?
[04:57] <r00723r0> damnit tell me
[04:57] <r00723r0> i have 3 minutes
[04:57] <varsendagger> how do i make xcaht transparent?
[04:57] <theoddbot> synapsis_: sure
[04:57] <theoddbot> alpha: i'm busy trying to get one to be stable in 64bit :)
[04:57] <alpha> my rtc seems to run about 1.5x faster then it should and my battery dislpay wont work
[04:57] <varsendagger> nevermind'
[04:58] <thewayofzen> varsendagger,  Settings >  Interface > Text box > transparent background
[04:58] <bnD> hey guys? there is a package called "childsplay" for younger linux users, however it doesnt make a shortcut under "games" and apparently has to be started by typing childsplay from terminal, any recommendations on some short of shortcut for my lil brother to be able to start it himself?
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> alpha,  what cpu? (I just got here)
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> if its a Turion :P i know the fix.
[04:58] <alpha> theoddbot, i gave up on 64bit too many packages weren't available
[04:58] <alpha> Dr_Willis, turion
[04:58] <thewayofzen> bnD,  use smeg menu editor to add a selection for the bin?
[04:58] <theoddbot> alpha: thanks for the heads up
[04:58] <synapsis_> theoddbot: doesn't seem to want to install the program, any idea what i can do?
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> alpha,  Heh --- :P good guess on my part eh.
[04:58] <theoddbot> synapsis_: whats it say
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> alpha,  thers a kernel option that will fix the clock.. but i think it may disable the apci.
[04:59] <bnD> thewayofzen, ok thanks ;P
[04:59] <alpha> Dr_Willis, it scews up my sound buffer
[04:59] <theoddbot> bnD: you should be able to right click on the menu to edit it
[04:59] <synapsis_> permission denied
[04:59] <thewayofzen> bnd: in breezy  Applications > System tools > Application menu editor
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> alpha,  let me fire up my laptop and see. (its also proberly documented in the wikis)
[04:59] <bnD> thewayofzen, :) thanks
[04:59] <dooglus> bnD: right-click on the panel, pick 'add to panel', then 'custom app launcher' and 'add'.  fill in the boxes.
[04:59] <thewayofzen> bnD,  :) np.
[04:59] <alpha> Dr_Willis, the noapic switch?
[04:59] <bnD> lol thanks to you too dooglus :)
[04:59] <misfit_toybuntu> amazing the services that are still "auto" started on a distro...like rsync, etc...that the average user would never touch, I just sped up my boot time by like 30 seconds disabling services not needed.
[04:59] <theoddbot> alpha: what annoying packages in particular ?
[04:59] <dooglus> bnD: depends whether you want a menu entry or an icon on the panel
[05:00] <alpha> theoddbot, mp3 decoders, dvd umm lots :P
[05:00] <Duelus> ATTRACT WOMEN anytime, anywhere without rejection... free tips>.
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> alpha,  i am also using the 'nolapic' option
[05:00] <alpha> theoddbot, w32codec won't work
[05:00] <theoddbot> alpha: mplayer works ok here, but i like to build my own anyway
[05:00] <bnD> dooglus, looks like thewayofzen's method is the one for me in this situaiton, nice to know both items of information tho :)
[05:00] <theoddbot> yeah i'm aware of w32codec
[05:01] <theoddbot> actually 64bit is stable just not k8-smp
[05:01] <alpha> Dr_Willis, when i do the nolapic option the sound buffer just keeps repeating itself
[05:01] <theoddbot> trying 2.6.14.2 see if it helps
[05:01] <dooglus> ok.  explain this:    $ i='foo.bc!'     $ echo "$i"    -> no output!
[05:01] <alpha> Dr_Willis, what laptop?
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> alpha,  no clue there. i use both the noapic and nolapic - got a Compaq V2311
[05:01] <alpha> Dr_Willis, i have an Acer ferrari 4000
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> could be some differance in the chipstes I guess.
[05:02] <alpha> Dr_Willis, mine has an ati chipset i think you have a sis?
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> I got an ati x200m video card
[05:02] <alpha> ahh
[05:02] <alpha> yeah i have a x700
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> and YES i did get the ati drivers going for it.
[05:03] <alpha> hehe
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> Mine was $500 :P after rebates
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> not a bad laptop for the low end.
[05:03] <alpha> i went for the size, battery life and graphics card
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> I went for the cheap. :P
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> plus its a dang good linux box now.
[05:04] <alpha> i can play halflife 2 full specs at 60fps
[05:04] <Davey> I have a HP zv6000, man it kicks ass :)
[05:04] <Davey> I can play WoW, BF2, all sorts :)
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> I have H2 - and its not even installed. :P
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> Been playing Civ4 a little lately
[05:04] <alpha> before this laptop i had a compaq 2170
[05:04] <Davey> I don't think I could run linux on my laptop without a butt load of hassle
[05:05] <alpha> 2500+ bartion with a 320m chipset
[05:05] <alpha> it run gentoo and ubuntu fine
[05:05] <Davey> Mines an Athlon64 3800+
[05:05] <Davey> it kicks *ass*
[05:05] <alpha> mines the same speed as a 3200+
[05:05] <Davey> I tried the livecd, that failed, so I stuck with windows, its my gaming box :)
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> heh - ive had several live cd's not like this laptop
[05:06] <BoneE> what ways can i make my OS run faster when i play videos
[05:06] <BoneE> its lags
[05:06] <beuno> still cant get the ATI Moble 9100 drivers to work, I still get that Im using MESA instead of ATI Drivers, did all the how to's, just cant get it to work, any ideas on where to look?
[05:06] <BoneE> i have 1gb ram and 2.53 P4
[05:06] <theoddbot> BoneE: video drivers probably
[05:06] <Davey> BoneE, turned on DMA?
[05:06] <BoneE> i got that driver
[05:06] <BoneE> its videos on the computer
[05:06] <theoddbot> BoneE: which video player do you use
[05:06] <Davey> !dma
[05:07] <BoneE> !dma
[05:07] <alpha> most intergrated ati chipsets before the "x" series are a pain to get direct rendering going
[05:08] <alpha> to get my 320m i had to patch the driver or the binary ati driver wouldn't work
[05:08] <beuno> alpha dont tell me that, I just bought this laptop yesterday because it had a nice ati card...
[05:08] <Davey> lol
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> some would argue the  'nice ati'  part. :P
[05:08] <alpha> 320m is also the same as a 7500m depending on who makes it
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> i actually look for nvdia in the laptops i get... but theres VERY few that have any nvidia these days it seems.
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> sadly.
[05:09] <alpha> i like ati for games and tv out put... but for linux....
[05:09] <beuno> alpha  where can I get more info on patching the driver or whatever gets me closer to getting it working?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> games are for the weak! :P
[05:09] <alpha> as well the ati chipsets and gpus have better powersaving
[05:09] <synapsis_> i downloaded amsn, however i don't even have permission to create a directory
[05:10] <beuno> Dr_Willis I couldnt find any decent laptops with nvidia
[05:10] <Davey> you think ATI is bad for linux? try it with dual monitors. UGH
[05:10] <theoddbot> synapsis_: what are you trying to do ?
[05:10] <alpha> beuno, hit up linux
[05:10] <alpha> ups
[05:10] <deus_> I cant start the DCOPserver
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> beuno,  yep.. thats problem. :(
[05:10] <alpha> i mean google
[05:10] <lancer285> is there a program to convert .ogg to mp3?
[05:10] <theoddbot> synapsis_: apt-get install asmn   then press enter
[05:10] <deus_> Before all i had todo was to delete the .ICEauth file
[05:10] <deus_> but the file isnt there
[05:10] <beuno> yes, all links under ubuntu ati or anything related are visited
[05:10] <beuno> :)
[05:10] <deus_> why isnt a new file being created?
[05:10] <sedition> has anyone had any luck with the dwl-250 and 5.10?
[05:11] <synapsis_> theoddbot: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:11] <synapsis_> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[05:11] <alpha> beuno, this is why i hate intergraded video... aways a pain
[05:11] <theoddbot> synapsis_: sudo apt-get install asmn   then press enter
[05:11] <bob832> does anyone know where the keyboard shortcut conf files are stored in gnome?
[05:11] <synapsis_> whats sudo?
[05:11] <theoddbot> sudo runs commands as the root account, like the windows administrator
[05:12] <alpha> beuno, my x700 took me about 5 min to get going with full ati binary fgx drivers
[05:12] <beuno> alpha yes, I agree, but I bought it yesterday, so im stuck with this for a few months at least
[05:12] <beuno> yeah, I got all the other nvidia ones running in a few min too
[05:12] <alpha> ether way. i want to get my battery and clock in order
[05:12] <alpha> anyone have an idea how to get them going?
[05:13] <cfh_dev> What's a good pptp client to connect to a windows network?
[05:13] <rain`> Anyone know what a UM-4 battery is?
[05:13] <synapsis_> theoddbot: The following packages have unmet dependencies: amsn: Depends: imlib1 but it is not installable Depends: sox but it is not going to be installed Depends: libpng10-0 but it is not installable E: Broken package
[05:13] <ubuntu> dabaR: you still alive? it's me with the nvidia thing again. got another problem - this one's huge.
[05:13] <me|ong> anybody here?
[05:13] <theoddbot> gah
[05:13] <synapsis_> =)
[05:14] <me|ong> whats the root default password
[05:14] <theoddbot> synapsis_: sudo apt-get update
[05:14] <me|ong> i was installing it and i couldnt su to root
[05:14] <SEJeff> me|ong, sudo -s and type your user password
[05:14] <cfh_dev> me|ong: you can use sudo
[05:14] <Davey> This is my laptop: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&lang=en&cc=us&product=500267&dlc=en&docname=c00392210 :D
[05:14] <me|ong> never asked for a root password either
[05:14] <deus_> *restates his question*
[05:14] <synapsis_> theoddbot: done
[05:14] <me|ong> hmm
[05:14] <theoddbot> synapsis_: try again
[05:15] <synapsis_> theoddbot: same thing
[05:15] <SEJeff> me|ong: the root account is disabled for security reasons. Use sudo and type your user password. Only users of the admin group can use sudo
[05:15] <me|ong> well i had tried to update the drivers for my old ati 7x00 card cuz i was stuck with 640x480
[05:15] <me|ong> wouldnt let me
[05:15] <linlin> hey how do i install an SMP kernel (multi cpu) onto ubuntu?
[05:15] <me|ong> hmm
[05:15] <Davey> Is there a GUI (or better yet, toolbar/systray) app for APC UPSs?
[05:15] <theoddbot> synapsis_: run synaptic and and make sure its got something other than your cd listed
[05:15] <me|ong> weird i tried :S lol
[05:15] <linlin> uname -r shows no mention of SMP
[05:15] <me|ong> bah well reinstalling now.. thought id ask cuz i found it weird
[05:15] <theoddbot> linlin: run synaptic and install linux smp image for your system
[05:15] <linlin> i dont have gui
[05:15] <linlin> running as a server
[05:16] <SEJeff> me|ong: Why are you reinstalling?
[05:16] <me|ong> changed vid card
[05:16] <me|ong> went with nvidia ti 4200 :)
[05:16] <me|ong> it was gonan be setup for gaming later anyways.. so when i switched form the old ati to the ti 4200 it said the vid was messed
[05:16] <Davey> you don't need to reinstall cause of that
[05:16] <sedition> me|ong - sudo passwd root
[05:16] <SEJeff> linlin: apt-cache search smp will show you linux-686-smp as one of the options
[05:16] <me|ong> still somewhat new to linux .. didnt have time to go nuts fixing it all
[05:17] <me|ong> sedition
[05:17] <SEJeff> linlin: So sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp should do the trick for you
[05:17] <synapsis_> theoddbot: how can i tell if my cd is listed?
[05:17] <me|ong> i know how to sudo ;) thanks though.. I'm a rookie not a noob so i got some exp under the belt
[05:17] <me|ong> plus been a while since i played with it
[05:17] <SEJeff> me|ong: Define experience
[05:17] <SEJeff> me|ong: If less than a few years, you're still a noob :)
[05:17] <me|ong> playing wiht it in class )they made us use zandros :S)
[05:18] <sedition> "sudo passwd root" will give you the more tradional root account
[05:18] <me|ong> lol.. well i consider myself a bit of a rookie :)
[05:19] <me|ong> heh
[05:19] <me|ong> aw shit!
[05:19] <me|ong> hit the wrong key when i was supposed to choose reso optiosn i wanted :S
[05:19] <ubuntu> I especially admit it while looking at that freaking grub prompt and wondering why aptitude caused a kernel panic.
[05:19] <beuno> cant get the ATI Moble 9100 drivers to work, I still get that Im using MESA instead of ATI Drivers, did all the how to's, just cant get it to work, any ideas on where to look?
[05:19] <me|ong> gah too many machines on the go lol
[05:19] <me|ong> bueno
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> MESA? ya mean VESA?
[05:19] <me|ong> word to wise with linux..
[05:19] <me|ong> try not to use ati ;) specially if new
[05:20] <beuno> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[05:20] <me|ong> theri drivers arent the best supported.. even for windows sadly
[05:20] <Ron_o> hey all.
[05:20] <beuno> me|ong somehow I always hear those things once I spent 2k on  a laptop  : )
[05:20] <ubuntu> lo Ron
[05:20] <me|ong> lol
[05:21] <Pablo> hi Ron_o
[05:21] <mgcross> Hi all...proiblem I can't find a solution to: I'm running 5.10 and play Enemy Territory. The game works just fine, but crashes with a signal 11 if I try to host a game...no info on the wiki or web forums that seems to apply..
[05:21] <me|ong> always shop first and ask questions before you drop money
[05:21] <Ron_o> I finally got Ubuntu up and working... it's working great.
[05:21] <me|ong> eww redhat
[05:21] <beuno> me|ong I had read around that ppl where getting ATI cards working...
[05:21] <me|ong> why buy a copy.. you only pay for the support
[05:21] <me|ong> yeah you can get them working. try the ATI website
[05:22] <me|ong> they have drivers there for linux for cards 8500 +
[05:22] <ubuntu> at least rh will install properly instead of the clusterfuck I've been through this weekend trying to get ubuntu up.
[05:22] <synapsis_> ubuntu: that sucks, however i'm finding windows to be really easy to use compared to ubuntu so far =(
[05:22] <me|ong> bah
[05:22] <beuno> me|ong dled the driver, installed it, still cant get my card to use it
[05:22] <me|ong> windows = easy
[05:22] <me|ong> but a bitch
[05:22] <me|ong> its loves to fuckup
[05:22] <Ron_o> I noticed that my download speeds have increased from Windows..
[05:22] <ubuntu> windows sucks arse synapsis_.  I'd MUCH rather have linux up and running.
[05:22] <mgcross> anyone help?
[05:22] <me|ong> and when it begins screwing up it goes downhill fast
[05:22] <Mabus06> language, melalcoolique
[05:22] <Mabus06> me|ong, i mean
[05:22] <alpha> me|ong, beuno has an older onboard ati chipset
[05:22] <ubuntu> but dang - let us get ubuntu to install right for us idiots please?
[05:23] <me|ong> really? i thought he said a 9100?
[05:23] <alpha> its an ipg
[05:23] <GausS_> hi all. I have ubuntu 5.10, and I created a new user with default group "users". How do I grant administrative rights to this user? it is already a member of adm group, but it cannot set network settings.
[05:23] <beuno> aaah  :)
[05:23] <damian__> ok guys, the easy question I never remember the answer. I want to connect my ubuntu machine with my winxp machine. What to do?
[05:23] <beuno> yeah
[05:23] <beuno> its brand new
[05:23] <me|ong> damian__
[05:23] <me|ong> samba
[05:23] <beuno> 9100 Mobility
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> depends on WHAT you want to do damian__
[05:23] <me|ong> bue
[05:23] <Mabus06> GausS_, visudo
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> damian__,  you want to acess the shared windows folders?  or what exactly?
[05:23] <deus_> Im trying to install a printer here, its fully supported with the HPijs drivers
[05:23] <me|ong> go to the sight.. they have mobile drivers too ;)
[05:23] <alpha> beuno, the chipsets been out for a while like at least a year
[05:24] <Mabus06> !visudo
[05:24] <ubotu> Mabus06: Are you smoking crack?
[05:24] <Mabus06> !sudo
[05:24] <ubotu> it has been said that sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:24] <damian__> Yes , I know I have to use samba, but what i have to edit in the smb.conf? Right now i see my windows machine but I can't see my ubuntu machine in the network
[05:24] <beuno> alpha yeah, well, its not "old" is it?
[05:24] <[linner] > hey ya'll
[05:24] <deus_> When i run the test it keeps printing jibberish, only one line and it wont stope
[05:24] <synapsis_> does ubuntu have a ftp program?  or do i need to install one?
[05:24] <Remmelas> anyone have time to give a hand getting gamepads to work?
[05:25] <deus_> Anybody have any idea on why my printer goes beserk?
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> damian__,  theres a gnome-config item ya gotta run to enable the shareing on ubuntus side.
[05:25] <AzMoo> synapsis_, install one
[05:25] <me|ong> damian__
[05:25] <[linner] > has anyone installed the debian version of Skype?
[05:25] <alpha> beuno, to make it work you need to trick the ati driver into thinking yours is a real gpu by changing the pci id string
[05:25] <me|ong> if you know its ip
[05:25] <synapsis_> azmoo: from where
[05:25] <sedition> synapsis - type ftp in the terminal
[05:25] <damian__> Dr Willis, I want all :) I'm kidding, I want to share the internet connection, the folders and the printer. The internet and th eprinters are hooked to my ubuntu machine
[05:25] <me|ong> just use \\ipaddressituses
[05:25] <AzMoo> synapsis_, synaptic. gftp is in there.
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> damian__,  all it does is edit the smb.conf :P or ya can read a book "Using samba" (online for free) and edit it manually
[05:25] <me|ong> that might open the networked share
[05:25] <AzMoo> synapsis_, or sudo apt-get install gftp
[05:26] <synapsis_> thank you
[05:26] <alpha> beuno, but i can't remeber what or how as its been about 6months since ive done it
[05:26] <damian__> That book it's too long and complicated for a newbie like me
[05:26] <AzMoo> nps
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> damian__,  for shareing the internet - thats part of the ip-masquerading stuff.. ihavent used that in years. so i cant help ya there.
[05:26] <me|ong> damian__
[05:26] <me|ong> no book is too big
[05:26] <me|ong> :)
[05:26] <synapsis_> azmoo:   gftp: Depends: gftp-gtk (= 2.0.18-10) but it is not installable Depends: gftp-text (= 2.0.18-10) but it is not going to be installed
[05:26] <synapsis_> E: Broken packages
[05:26] <beuno> alpha  (googling....)
[05:26] <damian__> Dr. i remeber that once the two machines are in the network you have no problem. I did it before but I can't remember how
[05:26] <synapsis_> i've been having trouble trying to install anything using apt-get
[05:27] <lancer285> guys, what program will rip dvds directly to mpeg 4??
[05:27] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: use aptitude
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> big book? I read through "Using Samba" and by chapter 3 - i knew all i really needed to know.
[05:28] <damian__> I will give a try Dr.
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> Samba is one of those tools that has such a varity of features and 'little quirks' :P
[05:28] <ubuntu> aptitude has made me ill.  anyone got any advice on the grub prompt it left me at and why it'd cause a kernel panic when doing updates/installs?
[05:28] <synapsis_> gnulinuxer: what is aptitude
[05:28] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: aptitude is what you should use ...
[05:28] <deus_> I have a printer that goes beserk, it keeps printing one line, i use cups with the hpijs driver. My distro is kubuntu amd64 and i use kprinter to set my printer.
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> deus_,  what printer?
[05:29] <synapsis_> gnulinuxer: as in ftp?
[05:29] <deus_> deskjet 840c
[05:29] <deus_> Dr_Willis:
[05:30] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: aptitude is the userspace tool for installing/uninstalling stuff .... apt-get won't automatically resolve deps & fix broken stuff
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> deus_,  Hmm..   could check the cups.org (.com?) page and see wht they sayt about that printer.
[05:30] <RedRose> how do i kill the xserver?
[05:30] <damian__> may be my samba is not working. I will give a try
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> RedRose,  several ways..   kill the gdm service.. or alt-ctrl-backspace
[05:31] <deus_> Dr_Willis: ive been to linuxprinting and its fully supported
[05:31] <NigelS> damian__: what are you trying to do? is linux on the router or?
[05:31] <RedRose> alt-ctrl-backspace will reboot X
[05:31] <Ron_o> and on my system only the lest alt-ctrl does it.
[05:31] <beuno> alpha check out my dmesg | grep fglrx
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> RedRose,  yes.. thats killing X.
[05:31] <beuno> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4514
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> RedRose,  and gdm restarts it.
[05:31] <damian__> It was the problem!! Samba wasn't installed correctly. Duh!
[05:31] <Ron_o> then to get back in X, use startx... or reboot.
[05:32] <sambagirl> is there anyone i can haev private dialog box to help me to install vistaemr software on ubuntu?
[05:33] <lancer285> does lame do batch encoding from ogg to mp3?
[05:34] <jo__> Hello.
[05:34] <damian__> Yes, I have internet in my linux machine. Should i install Firestarter to enable internet sharing?
[05:34] <jo__> Can someone tell me which services are responsible for networking?
[05:34] <jo__> I installed sysv-rc-conf, and started fooling around with services.
[05:34] <beuno> cant get the ATI Mobility 9100 drivers to work, I still get that Im using MESA instead of ATI Drivers, did all the how to's, just cant get it to work, any ideas on where to look?
[05:35] <jo__> Managed to break networking, then fix it again, but I'm not sure what services are networking related. ;-)
[05:35] <adam_1981> hi all
[05:35] <NigelS> damian__: you could do yes, though a good solution is also the shorewall package which makes configuring iptables a bit easier
[05:35] <jestarius> does the 32-bit chroot on 64-bit usually take a long to to check components?
[05:35] <synapsis_> gnulinuxer: so i should type aptitude install program ?
[05:36] <alpha> #flood
[05:36] <jo__> What exactly does chroot do?
[05:36] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: yes!
[05:36] <jo__> man chroot doesn't really tell me.
[05:36] <damian__> Nigel: What I know is that if I install Firestarter the conetion between the machines will screw up. Is it true?
[05:36] <jo__> lol
[05:36] <synapsis_> gnulinuxer: thanks! =D
[05:36] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: before that ... do one thing
[05:36] <synapsis_> k
[05:36] <alpha> beuno, ?
[05:36] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: take my ~/.aptitude/config
[05:36] <intelikey> mmm jo__ i think you can 'dpkg-reconfigure initscripts'  for a full reset.
[05:36] <beuno> dunno, that seems to be working ok
[05:36] <codernaut> hello there. I have a weird problem. Last night my mouse went crazy and then everything went back to normal, since then when I minimize a window it doesn't show on the panel, the only way I can get focus of the window is by using ALT+TAB... does anyone knows why is this happening?
[05:36] <beuno> cant find whats wrong  :(
[05:36] <jo__> intelikey, I've got networking fixed.
[05:37] <jo__> intelikey, I'm just not sure which service fixed it ;)
[05:37] <intelikey> pppd probably
[05:37] <NigelS> damian__: not necessarily, some things could be blocked until you unblock them maybe.  Does firestarter let you configure masquerading and port forwarding?
[05:37] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: http://pastebin.com/428666
[05:37] <alpha> beuno, the ati binary driver wont work unless it sees a certain device and your is one it wont work with
[05:37] <jo__> Ah, I need pppd-dns?
[05:38] <adam_1981> does anyone here know how i can view my windows files on a dual boot system? Of know where I can look to findout?
[05:38] <jo__> pppd-dns: nothing appropriate.
[05:38] <jo__> I love whatis... so useless.
[05:38] <codernaut> Everytime I minimize a window it doesn't show the minimized button on the panel, does anybody know why please?
[05:38] <jo__> adam_1981, you have to mount the Windows drive.
[05:38] <beuno> ok, Ill keep on googling on how to change my pci string, and which one is appropriate
[05:38] <intelikey> jo__ the man pages work on your box don't they?    man pppd-dns   and see what it does..... should work with most commands and some functions
[05:39] <jo__> No manual entry for pppd-dns
[05:39] <jo__>  ;)
[05:39] <jo__> man 8 pppd gave me some info though, thanks.
[05:40] <intelikey> sell i couldn't check it atm.... '-bash: man: command not found
[05:40] <wegstar> ah... my unbuntu installation fails to boot up..
[05:40] <jo__> Haha. :D
[05:40] <intelikey> i guess i should fix my own man pages.
[05:40] <jo__> Google usually finds man pages pretty easily.
[05:40] <codernaut> Everytime I minimize a window it doesn't show the minimized button on the panel, does anybody know why please?
[05:40] <[linner] > !seen thoreauputic
[05:40] <ubotu> thoreauputic <n=prospero@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 1d 1h 38m 16s ago, saying: '!tell cmcnamar about restricted'.
[05:40] <intelikey> not on dialup
[05:40] <damian__> Nigel: don't know. I just tried and the internet sharing is working but the rest of the stuff is not.
[05:40] <wegstar> it says "kernel panic - not syncing/: VFS: unable to mout root fs on unknown-block(0,0)"
[05:41] <jo__> codernaut, does alt+tab work?
[05:41] <wegstar> and before that it says "please append a correct "root=" boot option"
[05:41] <codernaut> jo__ ALT+TAB works fine, that's the only way I can get focus to the windows.
[05:41] <jo__> Huh... weird.
[05:41] <NigelS> damian__: what other stuff?
[05:42] <synapsis_> gnulinuxer: i still have no idea what i'm doing.
[05:42] <intelikey> codernaut add a pager to the pannel ?
[05:42] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: why?
[05:42] <wegstar> and before that it says cannot open root device "hda0" or unknown-block(0,0)
[05:42] <synapsis_> gnulinuxer: well to make it simple, today is my first day using linux.
[05:42] <jestarius> i'm trying to use this howto:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575&highlight=chroot+32bit and I can't even get past the first step, it seems to get stuck at: Checking component main on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu...
[05:42] <jo__> codernaut, yeah, make sure you have the right widgets ;)
[05:42] <pyraz> hey, i was wondering if anyone could help me find linux compatible drivers for a Radeon 9800 Pro
[05:42] <damian__> I can't access the other computers in the network
[05:43] <codernaut> intelkey : how do I add a pager?, I right click on the panel and I don't see something to add a pager
[05:43] <codernaut> jo__ : thanks, what widget do I need?
[05:43] <synapsis_> all i'm seeking to do is install amsn, thats all i wanna do.
[05:43] <SEJeff> !ati
[05:43] <ubotu> hmm... ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[05:43] <jo__> codernaut, "window list"
[05:43] <synapsis_> but there's like 50 million things that i have no idea to do.
[05:43] <theoddbot> codernaut: workspace switcher maybe
[05:43] <shadeofgrey> hey does anybody here know anything about linux certiufication?
[05:43] <synapsis_> makes me wanna run back to winblows
[05:43] <linlin> i have to NIC's, the first nic, eth0, works fine and can gt an ip via dhcp...when i try sudo ifup eth1, i get "ignoring unknown interface eth1"
[05:43] <linlin> how do i setup this second interface
[05:44] <SEJeff> shadeofgrey: I am going to go for my LPIC-1 Linux certification this Wed
[05:44] <codernaut> theoddbot: how do I add that to the panel?
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> damian__,  windows xp with sp2 has a lot of the stuff firewalled by default. also to access the ubuntu shares - you need to set up each user with a 'smbpasswd -a username'  (i think) to give them a samba login password
[05:44] <pyraz> wonderful, i'll check them out
[05:44] <shadeofgrey> thats something im very passionate about obtaining now that ive disdcovered how much i likwe the linux environment
[05:44] <pyraz> thanks
[05:44] <codernaut> jo__ : how do I add a "Window List" to the panel?
[05:44] <theoddbot> codernaut: right click on a panel -> add to panel -> window list   or whatever
[05:44] <damian__> Yes, I did that Nigel
[05:44] <jo__> Right click, click add to panel, drag the window list
[05:44] <SEJeff> shadeofgrey: Do you want to be a systems admin for a living?
[05:44] <abarbaccia> hello all - what is a good java compiler?  command line - simple generic if possible
[05:44] <synapsis_> gnulinuxer: scare yah off?
[05:44] <SEJeff> shadeofgrey: If not, there isn't much of a point
[05:44] <codernaut> theoddbot: thanks
[05:44] <theoddbot> abarbaccia: jikes is pretty good
[05:44] <NigelS> damian__: by access do you mean view their shared folders and they're win boxes? Most probably firestarters default rules have blocked smb access, have a look in the section showing denied access etc and unblock as ncessary if it's samba related
[05:44] <codernaut> theodbott: I added Window List and it woeked
[05:44] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: do you need specific instructions [aka spoon feeding]  ?
[05:45] <codernaut> jo__ it worked thanks a lot!!
[05:45] <codernaut> you guys rock :D
[05:45] <jo__> No problem.
[05:45] <damian__> I think I found that section but it's more of trying and error.
[05:45] <libervisco> hello ppl
[05:45] <linlin> when i boot up my ubuntu 5.10 machine, it doesnt automatically bring up eth0, i have to manually do "sudo ifup eth0" for it to work...how do i fix this
[05:45] <shadeofgrey> seeraa:  yes, but...  not JUST a systems admin.  i want to be a systems admin and a consultant....  consultants are trhe ones that make the real monrey....  and i figure the best way to prove that i know the systems that i intend to recommend to people is by becoming certified inall of them.
[05:46] <SEJeff> shadeofgrey: I am a Web / Systems Admin consultant, I know this :)
[05:46] <libervisco> I can't figure this out...
[05:46] <SEJeff> shadeofgrey: I work for Trasys http://www.trasys.com
[05:46] <damian__> shit!! how the hell can I make it work?
[05:46] <synapsis_> gnulinuxer: well if you wanna be mean about it, yes.
[05:46] <jo__> Hey guys, I have another situation. I want to run Windows, on Linux... probably vmware or win4lin... unfortunately, this computer's not super fast: 800mhz, 256mb ram; any chance I have a chance?
[05:46] <jo__> [don't bother suggesting WINE... lol] 
[05:47] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: okay ... what are you trying to install? and do you have aptitude installed?
[05:47] <linlin> way too slow/not enough ram
[05:47] <fletch33> does anyone know if there is a synaptec usb2 mouse package or something that will allow me some more control over my laptop mouse pad?
[05:47] <jo__> linlin, thanks. :(
[05:47] <RAT> anyone knows programming in GTK?
[05:47] <libervisco> I'm trying to install DRM for savage according to this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75393
[05:47] <pyraz> another driver question, does anyone know where I could find a driver for a Creative SB Audigy 2?
[05:47] <synapsis_> gnulinuxer: i'm seeking to install amsn, and i believe that i do have aptitude installed, however i could be wrong.
[05:47] <libervisco> but I keep getting the GCC related error
[05:47] <jo__> I can run Windows XP perfectly fine on this box, natively... but, I real;ly don't want to have to reboot.  :D
[05:47] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: okay ... did you take my aptitude config?
[05:47] <intelikey> linlin you can add comands to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh   that you need to run at boot time
[05:48] <Xenguy> jo__: just check the minimum system requirements for vmware
[05:48] <synapsis_> gnulinuxer: i'm on the site that you gave me, however looking at to me, is like trying to read russian.
[05:48] <RAT> I NEED HELP WITH THE GTK LIBRARY.......
[05:48] <heinzanova> if anyone could be so kind as to help a newb with some ndiswrapper problems, it would be greatly apperciated
[05:49] <_brian> what about GTK
[05:49] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: just copy and paste to to some file ... and save it in .aptitude/config in your home dir
[05:49] <linlin> will those commands be run as root intelikey
[05:49] <jo__> Xenguy, 500mhz and 256mb ram
[05:49] <linlin> or do i need to include sudo
[05:49] <intelikey> yes
[05:49] <linlin> k
[05:49] <damian__> I'm going to sleep. MAy be tomorrow will be a brighter day.
[05:49] <jo__> So, maybe it'll work fine?
[05:49] <RAT> how can i pass commands from a text box to console??
[05:49] <jo__> There's an evalution copy available... i'll probably grab it... if it runs well, I'll buy it./
[05:50] <Xenguy> jo__: there's only one way to find out ;-)
[05:50] <theoddbot> RAT: try zenity
[05:50] <libervisco> FATAL: Error inserting savage (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-k7/kernel/drivers/char/drm/savage.ko): Invalid module format
[05:50] <jo__> Yeah, might as well try.
[05:50] <RAT> pardon my ignorance....zenity?
[05:50] <pyraz> are there thrid parties that make drivers for linux?
[05:50] <theoddbot> man zenity
[05:50] <RAT> thanx
[05:50] <_brian> Doesn't seem like a Gtk question,
[05:50] <libervisco> also talking about some version magic and needing to have GCC 3.4 instead of GCC 4.0 specified
[05:50] <me|ong> is vnc on by default in ubuntu?
[05:50] <libervisco> and I do have both installed
[05:50] <heinzanova> I am having a problem with after I run sudo modprobe ndiswrapper , nothing happens and the wireless nic does not appear in networking... Anyone????
[05:51] <Xenguy> me|ong: no
[05:51] <_brian> why do you want something on the console?
[05:51] <intelikey> console only :)
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> me|ong,  its not installed by deaault.. and you need to manually run the vncserver you install. (theres like 3 to choose from)
[05:52] <RAT> i have to make a program that puts lines trought GTK in the console.....
[05:52] <Xenguy> intelikey: it's great that linux gives you the option to do that tho, otherwise your hardware would be mostly useless :-)
[05:52] <synapsis_> gnulinuxer: done and done, however i cannot see a .aptitude directory
[05:52] <misfit_toy> I'm truly amazed...after retweaking my breezy here, I have open: xchat, tbird, firefox (with 4 tabs active), 2 terms, liferea, gaim, and amarok, and am pushing tvout to a 20" tv for video, total cpu is 13%, on a 5 year old dell laptop.
[05:52] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: it's a hidden dir
[05:53] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: gedit .aptitude/config
[05:53] <Xenguy> misfit_toy: impressive - what did you tweak ?  :-)
[05:53] <intelikey> not at all Xenguy the lappy would.  but this p1 133mmx with 98m ram runs bluxbox just fine without any swap.
[05:53] <jo__> Hey, one last (well, probably not) question... in Fedora Core, my monitor was configured perfectly out of the box, however, on Ubuntu it's flickery (low refresh rate, I guess?) and it won't let me change the refresh rate...
[05:53] <jo__> Where can I change video card/monitor drivers to be my model?
[05:54] <Xenguy> intelikey: fluxbox, yes?
[05:54] <misfit_toy> Xenguy, hand combed every service and decided whether it needed to be started at S or in one of the init levels, got rid of tty4,5,6, small things like that
[05:54] <Xenguy> misfit_toy: cool
[05:54] <intelikey> Xenguy untill 3/4 days ago i ran kde on it.  :)
[05:54] <heinzanova> is there a room better suited for my wireless networking questions ??? and stuff with the ndiswrapper????
[05:54] <misfit_toy> and the boot was shaved 30 seconds as well :)
[05:54] <Xenguy> intelikey: how do you start fluxbox then - do you de-activate gdm?
[05:54] <jo__>  Where/how can I change video card/monitor drivers to be my model?
[05:55] <synapsis_> gnulinuxer: could not save file "/home/synapsis/.aptitude/config
[05:55] <intelikey> no *dm installed
[05:55] <intelikey> startx blah
[05:55] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: try sudo
[05:55] <glick> hey do you have to cool a cpu that consumes 9 watts of power?
[05:55] <jo__> Where/how can I change video card/monitor drivers to be my model?
[05:55] <Xenguy> intelikey: OK, so fluxbox configured through .xinitrc or .xsession then ?
[05:55] <jo__> [sorry, left] 
[05:55] <xechostormx> yay! i finally got ubuntu installed :) had to use a different gfx card, install nvidia, reinsert my card and configure. but it looks worth it so far :)
[05:56] <intelikey> xsession
[05:56] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer: nope
[05:56] <misfit_toy> xechostormx, welcome!
[05:56] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: mkdir .aptitude
[05:56] <Xenguy> intelikey: do you invoke with 'fluxbox' or 'exec fluxbox' ?
[05:57] <intelikey> with it set to default in .xsession i just use 'startx'
[05:57] <cec> dus everyone using linux here
[05:57] <misfit_toy> cec, I would think yes
[05:57] <heinzanova> ^^^barely using linux
[05:57] <jo__> cec, either all using linux, or all planning to.
[05:57] <Xenguy> intelikey: sorry, what is the actual line in .xsession that invokes fluxbox tho (I'm thinking about adding another option for my setup)
[05:57] <heinzanova> cec : I consider my linux at about 2% set up
[05:57] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, off of /synapsis ?
[05:57] <xechostormx> although now i have a slight problem with getting my nforce driver installed. is there a way to se if its available though apt?
[05:57] <Latino> does ubuntu send CD for free outside US, or they charge only for the shipping?
[05:57] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: in ~/
[05:58] <misfit_toy> xechostormx, you mean the "real" nvidia driver?
[05:58] <Xenguy> Latino: it's free, just order them
[05:58] <jo__> Alright, well, thanks anyways guys, I'll figure out the monitor thing another day
[05:58] <heinzanova> Please somebody, anyone have experiance making this stupid NDisWrapper work with PCI Wireless cards?????
[05:58] <Latino> even the international shipping is paid by then?
[05:58] <misfit_toy> Latino, worldwide, anywhere
[05:58] <xechostormx> lol well i got the real gfx nvidia driver now but i need my 'chipset' driver . nforce3-250
[05:58] <Latino> k, thanks
[05:59] <Xenguy> Latino: AFAIK yes - check the web page for details tho
[05:59] <theoddbot> Latino: its shipped by people close to you
[05:59] <Latino> ohh, k I c
[05:59] <misfit_toy> xechostormx, I have no idea what you mean by that
[05:59] <Latino> thanks
[05:59] <intelikey> xenguy top line in .Xsession    'fluxbox'    i for got about removing the other stuff.
[05:59] <Xenguy> intelikey: thanks man
[05:59] <xechostormx> well I have a 'nvidia' chipset (some people have via,sis,etc.)
[06:00] <misfit_toy> xechostormx, post your xorg.conf to pastebin
[06:00] <xechostormx> ok
[06:00] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, i'm having so much trouble with this, i can't find the directory when i'm using the file browser
[06:01] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: do you know how to use the console?
[06:01] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, not well
[06:01] <synapsis_> enough to move around somewhat
[06:01] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: open it anyhow
[06:01] <Mabus06> applications, accessories, terminal
[06:02] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: opened?
[06:02] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, already there, whast the move command
[06:02] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: cd .aptitude
[06:02] <Mabus06> cd (change directory)
[06:02] <synapsis_> i'm trying to move that text file i made of what i pasted from that site, to the .aptitude
[06:03] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: cp <oldfile> .aptitude/config
[06:03] <sohappy2> does someone know the name for linux "widgets" (a la Tiger?)
[06:03] <misfit_toy> sohappy2, gdesklets?
[06:03] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, is /config a directory?
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> theres several sohappy2  :P
[06:03] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: no a file
[06:03] <synapsis_> k nice
[06:04] <synapsis_> its there
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> gnome= gdesklets, kde = somthing else. :P
[06:04] <sohappy2> misfit: i don't know... maybe? i'm totally new to linux
[06:04] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: done?
[06:04] <synapsis_> sohappy2: same here, and i'm way out in left feild bud
[06:04] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer,  yep
[06:04] <intelikey> GNULinuxer if he cd'd into .aptitude and then cp's blah .aptitude/blah   will the dir exist
[06:05] <GNULinuxer> intelikey: no
[06:05] <GNULinuxer> intelikey: i didn't know what he wanted to do
[06:05] <intelikey> that's what you told him to do.
[06:05] <sohappy2> synaps: thanks :)
[06:05] <GNULinuxer> intelikey: i assumed he'd have some common sense
[06:05] <sohappy2> anybody else? not gdesklets, but...?
[06:05] <synapsis_> i'd like to hope so ;)
[06:05] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer,  alright with that done, whats next
[06:06] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: sudo aptititude -f install amsn
[06:06] <synapsis_> k
[06:06] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: i hope your repos are in good shape
[06:06] <glick> i must say the debian fortunes were better and funnier then the ubuntu ones
[06:06] <GNULinuxer> glick: install them in that case
[06:06] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, well it did something
[06:07] <synapsis_> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[06:07] <synapsis_> E: Unable to correct dependencies, some packages cannot be installed
[06:07] <synapsis_> E: Unable to resolve some dependencies
[06:07] <glick> GNULinuxer, i dont kow why they just dont use the same fortune
[06:07] <me|ong> make dep? :P
[06:07] <glick> files
[06:07] <glick> fortune is one of the most important programs
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> dont forget 'cowsay' also.
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> and 'figlet'
[06:08] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: your packages are in bad shape
[06:08] <synapsis_> yea =(
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> fortune | cowsay
[06:08] <synapsis_> i wish i could fix them myself, however i have no idea where to even start.
[06:08] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: the problems of installing stuff carelessly
[06:08] <synapsis_> this seems like a bad idea to even switch to ubuntu
[06:09] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: did it say which packages are held?
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> ive had very few if any problems with Ubuntu 5.10 actually
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> compared to other disrtos ive used.
[06:09] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: are you new to GNU/Linux?
[06:09] <synapsis_>   amsn: Depends: imlib1 which is a virtual package.
[06:09] <synapsis_>         Depends: sox but it is not installable
[06:09] <synapsis_>         Depends: libpng10-0 which is a virtual package.
[06:09] <thanatos> I have a faulty router, I need DHCP to get an IP address from an outside DNS, but when I change the DNS, when I reset my comp, it changes back to the default: my faulty router. can anyone help?
[06:09] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, *today* new
[06:09] <st_edmund> I have a problem with ppc ubuntu: I cant open Networking, it says "The config could not be loaded, there was an error running the backend script" .. can i reinstall networking?
[06:09] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: you are using GNU/Linux for the first time ever?
[06:10] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, yep.
[06:10] <shadeofgrey> hey guys whats a good book that i can buy that details all the commandline commands available in ubuntu and debian so that i can learn to control a ubuntu install without the gui
[06:10] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: install imlib1
[06:10] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, type that?
[06:10] <xechostormx> oh shoot i unfortunatly need yum or mp3 support anyone have a command?
[06:10] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: sudo aptititude -f install imlib1
[06:10] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: sudo aptitude -f install imlib1
[06:10] <varsendagger> there had got to be some kind of progrram to get tv streams like stream tuner?
[06:11] <me|ong> xechostormx
[06:11] <AzMoo> varsendagger, gstreamer?
[06:11] <me|ong> get xmms
[06:11] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, done
[06:11] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: installed?
[06:11] <intelikey> shadeofgrey 'ls /*bin /usr/*bin ' for the list and 'man command ' for the info.
[06:11] <synapsis_> yep
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> shadeofgrey,  'using bash' by Orealy is a must get/read book for learning bash. :P
[06:11] <st_edmund> yea xmms rocks .
[06:11] <thanatos> I have a faulty router, I need DHCP to get an IP address from an outside DNS, but when I change the DNS, when I reset my comp, it changes back to the default: my faulty router. can anyone help?
[06:11] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: sudo aptitude -f install sox
[06:11] <xechostormx> oh i have xmms i thought it didnt support mp3 without screwing with it?
[06:11] <AzMoo> thanatos, don't repeat your question.
[06:11] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: sudo aptitude -f install libpng10-0
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> or is it "learning bash"  - i forget.
[06:12] <theoddbot> xechostormx: only in redhat land
[06:12] <synapsis_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:12] <synapsis_>   sox: Depends: libmad0 (>= 0.15.1b) which is a virtual package.
[06:12] <st_edmund> xechostormx, i use xmms all the time to play mp3s. Works like a charm! infact i have an mp3 server running it.
[06:12] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, libpng done
[06:12] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: sudo aptitude -f install libmad0
[06:12] <xechostormx> nice :) must only be redhat then
[06:12] <synapsis_> done
[06:13] <xadux> where I can find a good book to learn bash?
[06:13] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: sudo aptitude -f install sox
[06:13] <me|ong> xechostormx
[06:13] <me|ong> redhat blows :P
[06:13] <mustard5> xadux, there is a guide you can download via synaptic actually
[06:13] <me|ong> its like windows but you pay for support
[06:13] <me|ong> which it needs :S
[06:13] <mustard5> xadux, I think the package is called abs
[06:13] <jo-idle> me|ong, red hat doesn't blow...
[06:13] <st_edmund> xadux, chapters?
[06:13] <st_edmund> amazon.com?
[06:13] <xadux> ok
[06:14] <me|ong> i dont like redhat
[06:14] <me|ong> its overrated
[06:14] <me|ong> the only reason companies buy it is because of the support
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> "advanced bash scripting guide" is a must read (ABS GUide)
[06:14] <varsendagger> really
[06:14] <synapsis_> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 13 19:12:47 2005
[06:14] <kapputu> Isn't cc the C compiler for Solaris??
[06:14] <st_edmund> Anyone know if i can re-install the networking applet?
[06:15] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, i just changed my clock time, is that why
[06:15] <intelikey> rute
[06:15] <mustard5> synapsis, your system clock might have gone out of wack
[06:15] <heinzanova> Is there a place, I can get help
[06:15] <heinzanova> with my wireless?
[06:15] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: is your clock time correct? did you do this in between this installations?
[06:16] <mustard5> synapsis_, I would say changing the time has everything to do with it ;)
[06:16] <kapputu> isn't gcc the C compiler for linux?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> kapputu,  yes. normally
[06:16] <intelikey> yep
[06:16] <synapsis_> *sigh*
[06:16] <synapsis_> i'm gettin real upset
[06:16] <synapsis_> won't even let me change the date
[06:16] <intelikey> kapputu install 'build-essential'
[06:17] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: don't worry ... have patience
[06:17] <mustard5> synapsis_, did you sync your system clock with a time server?
[06:17] <xechostormx> ok xmms works great :) im getting distorted audio (just slightly) though, is this common? definently never happend using win.
[06:17] <kapputu> ubuntu is very addictive
[06:17] <synapsis_> must: nope
[06:17] <mustard5> synapsis_, how exactly did you change it?
[06:17] <kapputu> it was, when I started using it last year
[06:17] <kapputu> and again when I moved to Hoary
[06:17] <heinzanova> ubuntu is annoying
[06:17] <kapputu> and now when I moved to Breezy
[06:17] <synapsis_> i right clicked on the clock, and tried to set it for my time, 12:19am, rather than 7 something
[06:17] <kapputu> and yet it's very simple
[06:17] <xechostormx> Im a huge audiophile, so this could be a killer for me
[06:17] <mustard5> heinzanova, what are you setting up?
[06:18] <kapputu> I think it'd due to apt
[06:18] <st_edmund> xechostormx, i'm a musician. xmms is just fine!!!
[06:18] <mustard5> heinzanova, there are a number of guides on wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:18] <xechostormx> ok its my sound codec then
[06:18] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, so whats the plan now that everythings sidelined
[06:18] <xechostormx> dangnabbit!
[06:18] <heinzanova> mustard5 : I have gone buy a tutorial on there
[06:18] <heinzanova> and I am not getting the results they are
[06:18] <heinzanova> it is installing the wireless
[06:19] <kapputu> why would someone compile the modules in Cisco VPN client using cc and say it's for linux?
[06:19] <mustard5> heinzanova, what is your hardware?
[06:19] <heinzanova> LinkSys WMP54G PCI
[06:19] <AzMoo> Where do you put gnome themes?
[06:19] <xechostormx> Im using a realtek850 for sound -normally with optical out, but i havent figured out how to enable that yet so im using rca's
[06:19] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: have you used Synaptic?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> AzMoo,  the gnome theem selector tool has a 'install' button I belive. Or ya can drag/drop them on it.
[06:19] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, nope
[06:20] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: i guess the command line is too much for you
[06:20] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, getting to be
[06:20] <mustard5> heinzanova, check your hardware on this list.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[06:20] <AzMoo> Dr_Willis, ah, nice, thanks.
[06:20] <kapputu> Is the cc compiler available for linux?
[06:20] <mustard5> heinzanova, I think you will find its not supported
[06:20] <st_edmund> good question AzMoo
[06:20] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> AzMoo,  not that ive ever USED that feature. :P
[06:20] <xechostormx> only reason i paid so much for this dang mobo is the optical out lol but thats a problem ill tackle later, i suppose. for now i just need to get rid of the distortion
[06:20] <intelikey> kapputu gcc
[06:20] <xadux> Dr_Willis, thanks for the info of bash
[06:20] <synapsis_> its not loading
[06:21] <thechitowncubs> What file contains my dns server information?
[06:21] <thechitowncubs> I want to change the server i use
[06:21] <kapputu> intelikey, this is off-topic but I need help : http://www.cs.uu.nl/technical/services/vpn/ - This site has a vpnclient for linux but the C modules are compiled using cc
[06:21] <mustard5> heinzanova, although there are a couple of different entries that look similar to your card
[06:22] <heinzanova> mustard5: it says it is supported
[06:22] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, nope isn't loading, nothing is.
[06:22] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: why isn't it `loading' now??
[06:22] <synapsis_> no idea man
[06:22] <mustard5> heinzanova, what other notes are there on it that might be relevant?
[06:22] <heinzanova> it is one of the only PCI cards linksys makes, not to be confused with PCMICA ones
[06:22] <synapsis_> my anger's loading though
[06:22] <heinzanova>  Detected in Network Settings as ra0 and started working after WAP details were input
[06:22] <heinzanova> no clue what that means
[06:23] <mustard5> heinzanova, are you using ndiswrapper?
[06:23] <heinzanova> yes
[06:23] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: go back to your favourite winblows then [if you are getting angry because you can't fix this small isue] 
[06:23] <xechostormx> ok screw the distortion problem, ill bet if i get spdif enabled i wont have to worry about it. anyone running spdif that can point me in the right direction?
[06:24] <mustard5> heinzanova, hmmm..not having wireless I am not sure how to proceed, you might have to find someone who is experienced with wireless
[06:24] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, well i'd like to fix this, but all thats happening is i'm relying on everyone else to solve these small issues.
[06:24] <synapsis_> because i can't install a simple program
[06:24] <heinzanova> mustard5: I have been in here all day long begging for a little help, and even though your not experianced with it, your the first person who has helped at all
[06:24] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: RTFM then
[06:24] <heinzanova> I really thought this community was that, a community of help; I guessed wrong
[06:25] <heinzanova> thank you though mustard for your help
[06:25] <mustard5> heinzanova, I think the key is asking the right questions too...detailed explanations of exactly what step you are up to and what errors you are getting
[06:25] <thechitowncubs> I need to assign a static IP to my ipw2200 powered laptop, and I everytime i set it, then reboot, i can't access the internet or anything. But it works if i set it to dhcp again.
[06:25] <thechitowncubs> How do I set a static ip?
[06:25] <heinzanova> I was a while ago, and now I have hath given up on that
[06:25] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, no idea what that acronym means
[06:25] <mustard5> heinzanova, often questions of a general nature are overlooked
[06:25] <synapsis_> probably not a good one
[06:25] <kapputu> GNULinuxer, initially it'll be like that - I'm sure you faced problems when you worked initially with Windows
[06:25] <RAT> I GOT IT.....!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:26] <thechitowncubs> RAT, what did you get
[06:26] <kapputu> RTFM - Read the (Making babies) manual
[06:26] <GNULinuxer> kapputu: I never worked with Winblows
[06:26] <kapputu> oops GNULinuxer
[06:26] <synapsis_> meh
[06:26] <RAT> pass commands to the console....
[06:26] <RAT> thru GTK
[06:26] <kapputu> that was addressed to Synapsis
[06:26] <kapputu> sorry
[06:26] <GNULinuxer> kapputu: :)
[06:26] <mustard5> heinzanova, there is a little bit of luck involved too of coures :)  Haveing someone online at that time who knows the answer and wants to help ;)
[06:27] <RAT> i forgot about the system() instruction......
[06:27] <synapsis_> kapputu, your right.
[06:27] <kapputu> synapsis_, take it from me - Ubuntu is better than Windows, you just need a little patience initially
[06:27] <kapputu> also you should be prepared to read and learn
[06:28] <kapputu> and then you'll find yourself educating others in no time
[06:28] <synapsis_> kappu: i'm prepared, however nothing seems to be explained in plain englsih as to help me undersatnd.
[06:28] <heinzanova> mustard : one quicky I am trying to edit this file btw I am total new, how do I save what I am doing in vi and exit?
[06:28] <Razor-X> synapsis_: well, if you read the man pages, it shouldn't be that hard to understand
[06:28] <Bollenator> heinzanova: type ":wq"
[06:28] <Cole> :wq
[06:28] <mustard5> heinzanova, hmmm..I don't use vi, but I will see if I have a manual :)
[06:29] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, back to the issue, what am i to do now that i cannot type in that last line you gave me
[06:29] <Razor-X> synapsis_: it does take some practice and experimentation to understand the layout of man pages, but after a while, it becomes essential
[06:29] <Bollenator> heinzanova: btw, if you're really new, you may want to edit with Nano; it's a bit more... intuitive ;)
[06:29] <xechostormx> ok what was the command to log out of the gui? i forget
[06:29] <Razor-X> heinzanova: from my vi days, ``:wq''
[06:29] <snowowl> real quick: does any body use an SLI graphics card configuration with Xinerama
[06:29] <mustard5> heinzanova, it says press 'q' and enter on my vi when I load it
[06:30] <mustard5> heinzanova, oh save!
[06:30] <Cole> heinzanova: if you would liek to familiarize youself with vi here is a cheat sheet http://www.lagmonster.org/docs/vi.html
[06:30] <mustard5> hehe
[06:30] <heinzanova> excellent thanks
[06:30] <Razor-X> heinzanova: you may want to take a look at other text editors, a nice list would include: nano, jedit, vi, emacs, and mcedit
[06:30] <intelikey> kapputu i havent found what you are talking about on that web site.  did you dl the tar ball ?
[06:30] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: that was NOT a command .... use your mouse to open synaptic ... from the taskbar on top!!!
[06:30] <sethrd> Hello all.
[06:30] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, it will not open when i click it.
[06:30] <xechostormx> i need to logout of the gui to install my chipset drivers so, its real important for me. I know it was (something)=3
[06:30] <GNULinuxer> synapsis_: why?
[06:31] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, no idea.  thats just my point.  i have no idea
[06:31] <heinzanova> is the chat that appears in red, a personal message to me? Because if so thanks to all that replied to taht question
[06:31] <synapsis_> GNULinuxer, i click it, it makes a sound, and then nothing happens
[06:31] <mustard5> heinzanova, I found the F1 key for help...and ended up pressing it about 5 times and had rash of help windows all over my desktop :P
[06:31] <synapsis_> your guess is as good as mine
[06:31] <kapputu> intelikey, yes
[06:31] <sethrd> I just did a server install, and am trying to get X (GNOME) up. Friend of mine told me that if I do a server install, then install GNOME, less hard drive space will be used, as it doesn't install all the useless programs.
[06:31] <intelikey> lag=16
[06:31] <mustard5> synapsis_, what are you installing?
[06:31] <Razor-X> heinzanova: it includes your name in the beginning of it, XChat hilights it red for your advantage
[06:32] <Razor-X> heinzanova: again, different clients behave in different ways, you may be intrigued to try others :)
[06:32] <mustard5> sethrd, I can't confirm what your friend says unfortunately..
[06:32] <synapsis_> mustard5, i'm *hoping* on installing amsn.  however its not happening, i'm running into errors that i can't understand
[06:32] <mustard5> synapsis_, are you installing from the repositories?
[06:32] <sethrd> mustard5: Is there any reason what so ever to do a server install, then get X up?
[06:32] <heinzanova> gotcha's
[06:32] <kapputu> intelikey, if you download vpnclient-4.0.3 and untar it, you'll see a script named build_driver
[06:33] <mustard5> sethrd, there are probably reasons yes....
[06:33] <Razor-X> sethrd: that may be the case, but it will require more work on your part
[06:33] <kapputu> That script compiles the modules using cc instead of gcc
[06:33] <synapsis_> mustard5, i have been trying to to no avail, i've also downloaded it from its own site, only to be told that i don't even have permission to open the file.
[06:33] <me|ong> what is better
[06:33] <intelikey> kapputu ok i'm looking at it   (dialup)
[06:33] <me|ong> reiser or ext3?
[06:33] <Razor-X> sethrd: because you'll probably have to get a lot of different packages
[06:33] <kapputu> I tried changing it to gcc and installed it again but I got a bunch of warnings
[06:33] <Razor-X> me|ong: depends on the need
[06:33] <kapputu> thanks intelikey
[06:33] <me|ong> well whats the big difference then
[06:33] <mustard5> synapsis_, come over to #kubuntu-offtopic its quieter
[06:33] <me|ong> like what would i use each for
[06:33] <varsendagger> hey i was asking about a program like streamtuner and someone mentioned gstreamer fo searchg for and findingg TV shows
[06:33] <Razor-X> me|ong: ReiserFS is better for many small files in a medium amount of space (such as an OGG collection), but ext3 is better for overall performance
[06:33] <me|ong> cuz i know they are both journaling..
[06:34] <me|ong> coo good to know thanks
[06:34] <mustard5> synapsis_, type /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:34] <varsendagger> is there a plugin that i would hve to install for that
[06:34] <me|ong> i always thought reiser was better
[06:34] <sethrd> Razor-X: I saw on the forums that people were doing server installs then getting X up. For what reason I was unsure, so I asked my friend Tim and he said that hard drive space was most likely the reason.
[06:34] <me|ong> just cuz i had seen it default for most distros
[06:34] <sethrd> Razor-X: I'm only on a 30GB hard drive, and I like to use it all up with MY stuff, not OS stuff.
[06:34] <heinzanova> After running sudo ndiswrapper -i driver.inf and sudo modprobe ndiswrapper why is my network card still not appearing in the networking under administration? I only have my Eth0 (my onboard eithernet) no sign of the WLAN0, and some weird PPP0 modem connection
[06:34] <me|ong> sethrd
[06:35] <me|ong> an OS should never take more than 6 gb of space
[06:35] <me|ong> specially a one cd distro
[06:35] <hp_> i have a sound problem
[06:35] <kapputu> heinzanova, did you find what chipset it is?
[06:35] <hp_> how do i edit:/etc/esound/esd.conf
[06:35] <sethrd> me|ong: When I say OS stuff, I mean programs and all. I want as little space as possible used by programs. Most space should be for me and my movies/music/etc.
[06:35] <kapputu> if it's a TI chipset, try craig's acx 100/111 setup
[06:35] <Razor-X> sethrd: probably, but I won't suggest it unless you're installing in a very constricted space, and if you're install Gnome, there shouldn't be much point
[06:35] <varsendagger> the days of more than one CD installs are over, or even DVD installs
[06:35] <intelikey> ah yes kapputu hahaha that is rediculess,  you should email them about that.
[06:35] <hp_> says its read only
[06:36] <Razor-X> sethrd: I mean, if you want to, persay, use aewm without any GTK or QT apps, then a server install with X manually installed is best
[06:36] <kapputu> intelikey, yeah but I don't have any connection - I'm just trying to download a client to connect to work
[06:36] <sethrd> So, in other words, my friend is an asshat and duped me.
[06:36] <me|ong> sethrd
[06:36] <hp_> ive just started with linux/ubuntu
[06:37] <me|ong> i know what im talking about when it comes to that stuff man
[06:37] <heinzanova> kapputu,  Ralink
[06:37] <me|ong> and os wiht its programs shouldnt exceed 6gb
[06:37] <me|ong> otherwise its overhead not needed
[06:37] <kubuntu_guy> guys hello
[06:37] <me|ong> or bloatware :P
[06:37] <sethrd> My own fauly for listening to him without looking it up.
[06:37] <sethrd> *cough*Windows*cough*
[06:37] <intelikey> kapputu try changing  ' CC=cc '     to      ' CC=gcc '    and see if it will build.
[06:37] <me|ong> most distros give you a package installing selection
[06:37] <Razor-X> sethrd: not really, I wouldn't go that far
[06:37] <me|ong> just choose minimal.. most of the time itl install under 1gb
[06:37] <kapputu> intelikey, it got built, but with warnings
[06:37] <me|ong> then you install what you need after
[06:37] <Razor-X> sethrd: it definitely depends on choice
[06:38] <me|ong> but again.. it "shouldnt" exceed 6gb.. then you have room for all your stuff
[06:38] <kapputu> and then the module wouldn't work, it errored out with an invalid module format
[06:38] <kubuntu_guy> Im already install my webmin and try to log using root account but always saying that my password is wrong? how can I resolve this
[06:38] <st_edmund> Anyone know how to re-install networking app?
[06:38] <me|ong> and partition is.. then mount diff partitions so that you dont use more than you need
[06:38] <sethrd> Alright, well, looks like I'll do this over with a normal install.
[06:38] <heinzanova> kapputu, I downloaded the util for ubuntu and it shows it installed and as hardware there, but it doesnt appear as an item in the networking menu
[06:38] <me|ong> like .... your 30gb.. partition 5/25
[06:38] <Razor-X> sethrd: but then, if you use aewm without GTK or QT, you probably have the experience to setup X using a server install :)
[06:38] <me|ong> then install linux on the 25gb.. then mount the other 25gb to yoru home folder
[06:38] <Razor-X> sethrd: I could fit Ubuntu comfortable on 2 GB in the beginning
[06:38] <intelikey> hmmmm  ;/
[06:38] <Razor-X> *comfortably
[06:39] <st_edmund> sethrd, i have a 600 Mb ubuntu install....
[06:39] <kapputu> does Ubuntu allow you to choose packages?
[06:39] <sethrd> Alright, one more question for ya guys.
[06:39] <kapputu> expert mode?
[06:39] <sethrd> 512MB RAM. How big should swap be? I hear the 1 and a half thing a lot.
[06:39] <me|ong> it is
[06:40] <me|ong> usually double
[06:40] <st_edmund> sethrd,  1.5 sounds about right yes.
[06:40] <SEJeff> sethrd: The twice ram thing was for kernel 2.4.
[06:40] <intelikey> razor-X it is bloated but i'm running ub on .5g atm with room to work.
[06:40] <me|ong> but I'd say even 256mb is ok
[06:40] <SEJeff> sethrd: 512+, I just make swap size == ram size
[06:40] <me|ong> you shouldnt use more anyways ;)
[06:40] <Razor-X> intelikey: so, you don't like X?
[06:40] <st_edmund> my Networking thingy is broked. Can i reinstall it?
[06:40] <intelikey> i run x
[06:40] <sethrd> Alright, thanks guys.
[06:40] <Razor-X> intelikey: what WM?
[06:41] <intelikey> razor-x
[06:41] <sethrd> I'm sure I'll be back to chat more later.
[06:41] <sethrd> exit
[06:41] <sethrd> Oops.
[06:41] <me|ong> lol
[06:41] <Razor-X> intelikey: even then, you don't use all that many different things do you? centericq alone is of the order of 100 MB
[06:41] <intelikey> fluxbox on this ubuntu  but i ran kde on mdk
[06:41] <kapputu> is there some way to make Ubuntu recognize the screen size?? My display is set to 1024x768 but it looks like 800x600
[06:41] <Razor-X> without its assosciated libraries
[06:41] <kapputu> it works fine with KDE
[06:41] <snowowl> is their a command like ipconfig for linux that show mac and ip adress and the like
[06:41] <me|ong> icq..
[06:42] <me|ong> over 2000 known exploits :)
[06:42] <Razor-X> me|ong: well, I don't use ICQ in centericq
[06:42] <Razor-X> :)
[06:42] <me|ong> same shit diff pile?
[06:42] <Razor-X> me|ong: ...?
[06:42] <rixth> http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=5348 I have set error reporting to E_ALL. Once again my problem is that the script mysteriously dies. I see 'Beofre DB' echo'd but not 'After DB'
[06:42] <me|ong> a program that has NEVER achieved full version.. always beta etc.. should not be used
[06:42] <Razor-X> it allows simeltaneous connections to multiple IM networks, useful in one package
[06:42] <Razor-X> although a bit heavy, for my tastes
[06:42] <kubuntu_guy> how can I share my printer
[06:42] <intelikey> icq '/
[06:42] <rob_p> snowowl:  ifconfig
[06:42] <me|ong> you may be safe.. but cuz of somebody ele they can get to you
[06:42] <heinzanova> kapputu, I downloaded the util for ubuntu and it shows it installed and as hardware there, but it doesnt appear as an item in the networking menu
[06:43] <me|ong> think of it like a nice secure network
[06:43] <me|ong> once in they can do more amage then from outside
[06:43] <snowowl> oooh, thx rob :)
[06:43] <me|ong> infect one and the rest get easier
[06:43] <intelikey> icq ;/   *turns nose up*
[06:44] <me|ong> i gave up ICQ about 4 years ago
[06:44] <intelikey> i never have used it.
[06:44] <kapputu> heinzanova, I'm not sure I can help you further
[06:44] <me|ong> when somebody used me to synflood a friend.. that was the day it lost respect.. plsu the never endless beta/alpha hehe
[06:44] <kapputu> I can look into though but I need to go
[06:44] <me|ong> plus*
[06:44] <heinzanova> kapputu, :-(
[06:44] <snowowl> rob: what is the web interface address for my little home router
[06:45] <kapputu> heinzanova, I can tell you something though. I have a TI chipset which is not even supported by ndiswrapper and I could still get that working. There must be a lot of tutorials out there.
[06:45] <jah_raztah> ok i completley destroyed my ubuntu
[06:46] <jah_raztah> i installed a new version of a couple of libraries
[06:46] <jah_raztah> like gc
[06:46] <jah_raztah> gcc*
[06:46] <jah_raztah> and cpp
[06:46] <jah_raztah> and then i got an error saying there are broken packages
[06:46] <jah_raztah> so i removed the original older versions
[06:47] <jah_raztah> and then with those older lib a shit load of ubuntu programs go un-installed
[06:47] <intelikey> and thing are still broken
[06:47] <kapputu> where is xorg.conf located?
[06:47] <jah_raztah> like i don't have gnome
[06:47] <jah_raztah> i think i have x
[06:47] <kapputu> is there any application edit it or change the configuration settings?
[06:47] <intelikey> kapputu /etc/X11/
[06:47] <intelikey> kapputu yes
[06:47] <jah_raztah> now there is nothign left to be broken
[06:47] <kapputu> intelikey, which app?
[06:48] <intelikey> xorgconfig maybe
[06:48] <jah_raztah> all this just to install wxmaxima
[06:48] <jah_raztah> in my /usr/bin there are 4 files
[06:48] <kapputu> intelikey, no such app
[06:48] <intelikey> you can use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ' to rework it also
[06:48] <jah_raztah> xchat is one
[06:49] <jah_raztah> anyone can help me please
[06:49] <intelikey> xorgcfg ?
[06:49] <jah_raztah> i can't even run anything there is gnome panel
[06:49] <kapputu> nope
[06:49] <jah_raztah> and ALT+F2 doesn't bring the run window
[06:50] <intelikey> you can use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg '
[06:50] <jah_raztah> i can only access console / terminal by pressing ctr+alt+F4
[06:51] <jah_raztah> Dr_Willis: you helped me before
[06:51] <jah_raztah> Dr_Willis: please help me
[06:51] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: Do killall gnome-panel
[06:52] <jah_raztah> no point
[06:52] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: It will then restart itsself
[06:52] <jah_raztah> there is no gnome
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> jah_raztah,  i think you managed to muck things up very well... :P
[06:52] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: Well what are you trying to do?
[06:52] <z|bandito> hi
[06:52] <jah_raztah> there is nothing
[06:52] <me|ong> jah_raztah
[06:52] <jah_raztah> all i have is X
[06:52] <intelikey> jah_raztah what are you trying to do ?
[06:52] <z|bandito> whats the proper syntax for running badblocks on hda1 ?
[06:52] <me|ong> do it
[06:52] <jah_raztah> i f*ked up
[06:52] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:52] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: *** sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:52] <jah_raztah> SEJeff i no longer have gdm either
[06:52] <z|bandito> I've got an unstable system now, and I ran a memtest and it cycled 10 times without error...
[06:53] <jah_raztah> or terminal
[06:53] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gdm
[06:53] <z|bandito> is there a vram test included with ubuntu?  or how to run badblocks?  thanks! :)
[06:53] <me|ong> z|bandito
[06:53] <Razor-X> me|ong: I'm plagued to use ICQ/AIM only because I'm 15
[06:53] <me|ong> what type of unstable?
[06:53] <Razor-X> me|ong: and every single person uses it
[06:53] <intelikey> ah jah_raztah you need somekind of desktop environment to run in X    like xfce4 or fluxbox or icewm ....
[06:53] <me|ong> Razor-X lol
[06:53] <me|ong> dude
[06:53] <me|ong> you can still use
[06:53] <jah_raztah> i know
[06:53] <me|ong> its just my opinion
[06:53] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: Did you try what I said?
[06:54] <z|bandito> it freezes hard, sometimes at screensaver, sometimes just in the desktop gui ... ubuntu hoary, it's current ..
[06:54] <Razor-X> me|ong: of course, I use IRC much more often
[06:54] <jah_raztah> yes SEJeff
[06:54] <jah_raztah> i get a bunch dependcies error
[06:54] <me|ong> z|
[06:54] <me|ong> vid card probs then
[06:54] <jah_raztah> saying it won't be installed because of something
[06:55] <z|bandito> is there  a way I can run a test on the memory and have it stay out of bad memory?  it's onboard graphics... :/
[06:55] <jah_raztah> ok i have to explain again... 80% of what comes in ubuntu breezy default is wiped out from my computer
[06:55] <me|ong> z|
[06:55] <jah_raztah> i can't install them because of certain libraries persent
[06:55] <me|ong> then it might be yoru mobo dying
[06:55] <jah_raztah> does that make sense?
[06:56] <intelikey> yes it does.   not sure that we can help you with that though jah_raztah
[06:56] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: What did you do to break your system?
[06:56] <me|ong> he tried to isntall something
[06:56] <me|ong> screwed up
[06:56] <z|bandito> I saw some corrosion on what appeared to be vram chips when I had it open
[06:56] <z|bandito> ;/
[06:56] <me|ong> so he tried uninstalling it.. but it uninstalled the legacy stuff
[06:56] <me|ong> so it took it ALL out
[06:56] <me|ong> ouch
[06:57] <me|ong> i think your mobo might have had a bad shock dude
[06:57] <SEJeff> jah_raztah, Try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:57] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: Tell me if that works
[06:57] <jah_raztah> tried already
[06:57] <jah_raztah> it won't
[06:57] <intelikey> or someone sweeted in it
[06:57] <intelikey> errr sweted
[06:58] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: What packages are giving you errors?
[06:58] <jah_raztah> how do i find out
[06:58] <jah_raztah> apt-get -f install?
[06:58] <z|bandito> sweated
[06:59] <z|bandito> highly saline air here
[06:59] <z|bandito> stuff corrodes like mad
[06:59] <z|bandito> i've had a bunch of video cards with a bad solder wash that went bad due to corrosion on various IC's
[06:59] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: What errors do you get when you try to install ubuntu-desktop?
[06:59] <me|ong> :S
[07:00] <jah_raztah> it shows a bunch of unmet dependencies
[07:00] <jah_raztah> ok let me tell u what caused this
[07:00] <jah_raztah> i was trying to install a program
[07:00] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: please do
[07:01] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: You need to be specific. I installed a program doesn't help me help you
[07:01] <jah_raztah> and the libraries required for program were newer then those on breezy
[07:01] <me|ong> so you got scred on the vid card
[07:01] <me|ong> :P
[07:01] <jah_raztah> for gcc and cpp and libstdc++
[07:01] <intelikey> one drop of sweat and  ! bang !  rust on the board.
[07:01] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: So you installed the ones from dapper manually?
[07:01] <jah_raztah> no
[07:01] <jah_raztah> i installed them from the debain website
[07:01] <jah_raztah> downloaded the .deb
[07:01] <jah_raztah> and installed them
[07:01] <intelikey> AH HA
[07:01] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: aaahhh!
[07:02] <intelikey> put the install cd in the drive and reboot.
[07:02] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: I guess you decided to ignore the fact that ubuntu is not binary compatible with many debian packages
[07:03] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: Reinstall
[07:03] <jah_raztah> breezy?
[07:03] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: If you insist on newer packages, try dapper
[07:03] <jah_raztah> ohh
[07:03] <jah_raztah> can i do that still
[07:03] <jah_raztah> like added the drapper repos
[07:03] <jah_raztah> adn update
[07:03] <jah_raztah> and hope for it work?
[07:03] <me|ong> jah_raztah
[07:03] <SEJeff> It's possible
[07:03] <jah_raztah> ye?
[07:04] <jah_raztah> ok i have no firefox
[07:04] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: But you would be best to reinstall
[07:04] <me|ong> i think in your case.. to make your life easier.. just reinstal your ubuntu heh
[07:04] <jah_raztah> so i need u to message be the repos
[07:04] <jah_raztah> i can't re-install breezy
[07:04] <jah_raztah> i have no cd
[07:04] <me|ong> lol
[07:04] <jah_raztah> i have no firefox
[07:04] <me|ong> how can you not have a cd?
[07:04] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: Use wget to download the iso
[07:04] <jah_raztah> how do i burn it
[07:04] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: And then use cdrecord to burn the iso
[07:04] <jah_raztah> i can't install any of thos eprograms
[07:04] <intelikey> wget jah_raztah ?
[07:04] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: They should be installed already
[07:05] <jah_raztah> ok
[07:05] <Razor-X> jah_raztah: wget and cdrecord come standard
[07:05] <me|ong> SEJeff
[07:05] <jah_raztah> i have wget
[07:05] <jah_raztah> and cdrecord
[07:05] <jah_raztah> but i want to give the drapper idea a try
[07:05] <Razor-X> after my torrent finishes, i'm going to upgrade from Hoary to Dapper
[07:05] <thewayofzen> when opening a VCD in mplayer it opens but i get an error saying   "ioctl dif1: Invalid argument"
[07:05] <Razor-X> and pray that my custom compilations don't break
[07:05] <me|ong> Hoary?
[07:05] <me|ong> daooer?
[07:05] <Razor-X> me|ong: yeahp
[07:06] <thewayofzen> anyone know anything about it.. im assuming it has to do with the /dev/dvd cause i dont have a dvd rom
[07:06] <Razor-X> errr, Drapper
[07:06] <me|ong> yeah lol sry
[07:06] <me|ong> havnt been in this awhile
[07:06] <jah_raztah> intelikey i don't how anything is working at this moment
[07:06] <me|ong> what are they?
[07:06] <jah_raztah> i have to give xchat a round of applause
[07:06] <jah_raztah> sice it's working
[07:06] <misfit_toy> it's "Dapper" as in the "Dapper Drake"
[07:06] <mustard5> hey synapsis :)
[07:07] <jah_raztah> along with some of the other packages i complied
[07:07] <glick> linux should use statically built stuff
[07:07] <synapsis> mustard5, hey!  made it back on =P.  what channel are you in though
[07:07] <mustard5> synapsis, /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:07] <intelikey> was maybe already running at the time of the crash ?
[07:07] <glick> all these libs and stuff means dependancy hell
[07:07] <glick> which is why you need tools like apt in the first place
[07:07] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: wget http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/20051111.2/dapper-install-i386.iso
[07:07] <jah_raztah> SEJeff can't do it through repositories?
[07:07] <Razor-X> oh, *see*, it's dapper!
[07:08] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: You mixed debian with ubuntu. You need to reinstall
[07:08] <me|ong> and what is dapper lol
[07:08] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: if you just update to dapper, things will likely still be broken
[07:08] <SEJeff> me|ong: The development release of ubuntu
[07:08] <misfit_toy> "dapper" means kinda "dressed up"
[07:08] <jah_raztah> i have to back up my home folder first
[07:08] <me|ong> ohhh
[07:08] <me|ong> shit.. i thought it was soemthign built into linux or an app of sorts lol
[07:09] <asad2005> I have a problem with mouse scroll, xorg.conf seems to have the right enteries ImPS/2
[07:10] <Razor-X> I have mixed a bit of Debian with Ubuntu, but only ratpoison and one other thing, IIRC
[07:10] <misfit_toy> me|ong, "dapper drake" is the next release of Ubuntu linux
[07:10] <jah_raztah> what is a good terminal program other then gnome-terminal which allows copy paste
[07:10] <snowowl> can someone tell me how to get to my network config app
[07:10] <misfit_toy> night all
[07:10] <Razor-X> my real concern is how my compiled apps will behave after the upgrade
[07:10] <me|ong> yeah i got that now
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> jah_raztah,  about all of them. :P xterm, rxvt, eterm, 'Terminal', xfce-terminal,
[07:11] <intelikey> asad2005 maybe 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg '   and enable scrolling when it asks ?
[07:11] <sambagirl> i am trying to install vistaemr software. how do you start the sql ?
[07:11] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: I'm agreeing with Razor-X. You need to reinstall
[07:11] <jah_raztah> i tried aterm
[07:11] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: And you need to forget the command apt-get -f
[07:11] <Razor-X> stuff like mplayer and centericq may break -_-
[07:11] <SEJeff> jah_raztah: xterm, rxvt, konsole
[07:11] <Razor-X> jah_raztah: I prefer urxvt, personally
[07:11] <Razor-X> but Konsole is a close second
[07:11] <me|ong> heh kde
[07:12] <SEJeff> Razor-X: I prefer gnome-terminal. It is slow, but i like the tabs and profiles
[07:12] <me|ong> can you install KDE on ubuntu?
[07:12] <anathema_> hey does anyone in here use a a7n8x-e ?
[07:12] <anathema_> my hdd LED doesnt work in ubuntu
[07:12] <anathema_> for serial ata drive
[07:12] <SEJeff> me|ong: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :)
[07:12] <me|ong> lol
[07:12] <me|ong> anathema_
[07:12] <anathema_> can anyone help?
[07:12] <Razor-X> jah_raztah: you can try Gnome-terminal, xfce-terminal, rxvt, urxvt, XTerm, mlterm, pterm, pTerm, Eterm, aterm, and others
[07:12] <me|ong> thats hardware
[07:12] <sambagirl> i am installing vistaEMR software.  do i need to start sql or is it always running or what?
[07:12] <anathema_> well
[07:12] <anathema_> not really
[07:12] <anathema_> it works in windows just fine
[07:12] <anathema_> the LED i mean
[07:13] <me|ong> really? didnt know it was included
[07:13] <me|ong> well thats cool :)
[07:13] <anathema_> so must be something to do with ubuntu or the module or somethign
[07:13] <sambagirl> this is such a simple question but i cannot get an answer. this is so frustrating.
[07:13] <l33txp> I'm trying to create a partition for my Ubuntu install... I'm using Partition Magic 8.0.... What do I use? "Linux Ext2 , Linux Ext3, or Linux Swap"
[07:13] <anathema_> just wondering if there is a way to fix
[07:13] <me|ong> im still trying to get familiar with box guis... see which one i really like better
[07:13] <anathema_> l33txp: ext3
[07:13] <l33txp> k
[07:13] <anathema_> but make a half gig or so linux swap too
[07:13] <SEJeff> l33txp: ext3
[07:14] <anathema_> its always good to have swap
[07:14] <me|ong> Linux Ext3
[07:14] <cfa> any1 know how to install or use a file with "......._all.deb"
[07:14] <Razor-X> me|ong: Fluxbox refused to work on my box, along with XFce
[07:14] <intelikey> sambagirl cause no one in here atm knows .....
[07:14] <Razor-X> I decided to try ratpoison, and got hooked to its simplicity and concept
[07:14] <cafuego_> cfa: sudo dpkg -i ......_all.deb
[07:14] <me|ong> ratpoison eh?
[07:15] <SEJeff> Razor-X: Ever tried ion3?
[07:15] <anathema_> knows what? whats her question
[07:15] <cfa> cafuego thanx
[07:15] <Razor-X> SEJeff: I hear it's something like EvilWM, no?
[07:15] <SEJeff> Razor-X: Never used evil. My wm choices in order: gnome --> openbox --> ion3
[07:15] <Razor-X> I don't know if I could adjust back to a more conventional WM, I have C-t shortcuts up the brain
[07:15] <me|ong> alll i knwo is i like desktop space and costomizable taskbars.. also moveable
[07:15] <tga> ug.ro
[07:15] <sambagirl> atm?
[07:16] <intelikey> at the moment
[07:16] <sambagirl> what means atm?
[07:16] <Razor-X> and a lot of my hacks (like copy/paste to clipboard from urxvt) is based on the convenience of ratpoison binds
[07:16] <sambagirl> like debit machien?
[07:16] <SEJeff> sambagirl: at the moment
[07:16] <l33txp> Create the Swap before the Ext3?
[07:16] <Razor-X> sambagirl: ``at the moment''
[07:16] <sambagirl> ahho ok
[07:16] <sambagirl> ok thanks
[07:16] <jah_raztah> rxvt doesn't allow copying or pasting
[07:16] <Razor-X> jah_raztah: it does
[07:16] <Razor-X> jah_raztah: it has a very particular caveat though, which i've hacked at so that it doesen't bother me anymore
[07:17] <jah_raztah> how do I?
[07:17] <jah_raztah> i type ctrl + c
[07:17] <jah_raztah> i mean press
[07:17] <jah_raztah> and i do ctrl + v
[07:17] <Razor-X> jah_raztah: C-c almost never works
[07:17] <sambagirl> i am trying to install this medical software for this pc to test that is being given as open source by the government for electreonic medical records stuff and i just have a clue with it. maybe ubuntu is not the right environment for this i haev no clue. all i know is i dont know.
[07:17] <Razor-X> jah_raztah: highlight the thing and left-click, the selection should disappear
[07:17] <jah_raztah> ok i need one that works
[07:18] <jah_raztah> doesn't work
[07:18] <Razor-X> to paste inside urxvt again use Middle mouse button (or Mouse 2)
[07:18] <jah_raztah> ohh ic
[07:18] <Razor-X> C-c works with very few terminal emulators, I meant
[07:18] <jah_raztah> ok i need to knowa  simple small webbrowser i can install
[07:18] <SEJeff> sambagirl: Try out openvista
[07:18] <Razor-X> (because C-c is generally the shell interrupt command)
[07:18] <jah_raztah> firefox won't work
[07:18] <me|ong> whats urxvt?
[07:18] <SEJeff> !urxvt
[07:18] <ubotu> Not a clue, SEJeff
[07:18] <Razor-X> me|ong: also known as rxvt-unicode
[07:19] <me|ong> still no go..
[07:19] <Razor-X> me|ong: oh, meh, I thought it obvious by the name
[07:19] <Razor-X> it's rxvt with better unicode support, among other things
[07:19] <me|ong> heh... if its used for programming i have no clue
[07:19] <me|ong> im a net admin more than anything
[07:19] <intelikey> sambagirl usually someone good with networking around, but not always.   so if you ask and no one answers right away try again in 30 minutes or so.     and ubuntu should be as good as any open source for that yes.    but knowing the basics about linux will be a must.
[07:19] <SEJeff> me|ong: It is a lightweight terminal
[07:19] <me|ong> coo
[07:19] <Razor-X> a little terminal emulator lesson (feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, Linux gurus) for all:
[07:20] <Razor-X> you have XTerm as one of the first terminal emulators, and almost everything was based off that
[07:20] <l33txp> Is there any printed books that would be good to have around about Linux?? Ubuntu?
[07:20] <me|ong> oh wait..
[07:20] <Razor-X> rxvt is a lighter version of XTerm, and another deviation along that same path is urxvt
[07:20] <me|ong> actually
[07:20] <me|ong> would i use this to terminal into lets say a cisco router?
[07:20] <sambagirl> well intelikey it says To run OpenEMR, MySQL and Apache or another PHP-capable webserver must be configured.
[07:20] <Razor-X> stuff like Konsole and Gnome-Terminal all originate from XTerm, i'm pretty sure
[07:20] <Razor-X> me|ong: you could use it for anything a tty can do
[07:20] <sambagirl> i have all that included withj ubuntu, no?
[07:21] <me|ong> oh nice
[07:21] <Razor-X> only with X pretty-ness :)
[07:21] <sambagirl> but how do i start them?
[07:21] <me|ong> i want :)
[07:21] <me|ong> i have to find soemthgin to use TTY for a cisco router
[07:21] <me|ong> i have a 2505 router right now i wanted to play with... see if i can configure each hub port seperately or if im pooched hehe
[07:21] <sambagirl> bye
[07:21] <Razor-X> heh
[07:22] <intelikey> you couldn't hand someone a pc with windows on it and say "here set us up a database server on this" and expect them to do much if they had never used windows before.    yes that is all in ubuntu.
[07:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> reinstalling hoart fixed all my problems!!!
[07:22] <Razor-X> have fun leafing through man pages, me|ong
[07:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> hoary even
[07:22] <me|ong> leafting?
[07:22] <me|ong> through what pages?
[07:22] <Razor-X> me|ong: leafing
[07:22] <Razor-X> meh
[07:22] <varsendagger> has anyone gotten rosegarden4 to work?
[07:22] <me|ong> cisco shit
[07:22] <me|ong> im going to school for it.. im currently taking CCNP4 :)
[07:22] <thoreauputic> varsendagger: yes
[07:23] <Razor-X> the best way to configure XTerm and rxvt is to read the manual page
[07:23] <me|ong> ohhh
[07:23] <me|ong> that
[07:23] <me|ong> hmm
[07:23] <me|ong> well waht would you suggest for what i want to do?
[07:23] <Madpilot> sambagirl: installing Apache/PHP/MySQL isn't that hard - learning to use them is the difficult part
[07:23] <Madpilot> !tell sambagirl about apache
[07:23] <varsendagger> thoreauputic, how, i ahve sequencer errores everytime
[07:23] <Razor-X> me|ong: depends on your resources
[07:24] <sambagirl> An error occurred while loading http://localhost/openemr/setup.php: Could not connect to host localhost.
[07:24] <thoreauputic> varsendagger: I used timidity in server mode to make it work here: I have a crappy onboard sound card
[07:24] <Razor-X> me|ong: urxvt is nice and lightweight and uses xft's, so it's perfect for me
[07:24] <sambagirl> does this mean the servers things are not running?
[07:24] <Razor-X> it can even be compiled to use a background pixmap
[07:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there a way to install icon themes at the system level as root, instead of as a user?
[07:24] <me|ong> i just need a basic console program that allows ctrl c and v
[07:24] <thoreauputic> varsendagger: basically you run timidity as a daemon, and that allows rosegarden to connect
[07:24] <varsendagger> what is timidity?
[07:24] <me|ong> cisco GUI is pretty much like dos prompt
[07:25] <Razor-X> me|ong: Ctrl+C won't work in almost any terminal emulator, as I said before
[07:25] <BROKEN_LADDER> me|ong use ctrl-shift-c and ctrl-shift-v in gnome-terminal
[07:25] <thoreauputic> varsendagger: it's a midi player
[07:25] <varsendagger> gust type timidity
[07:25] <me|ong> or any real command router
[07:25] <me|ong> hmm
[07:25] <varsendagger> if i have it installed
[07:25] <SEJeff> sambagirl: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[07:25] <thoreauputic> varsendagger:  sudo apt-get install freepats timidity
[07:25] <Madpilot> sambagirl: probably. none of the Apache/PHP/etc stuff is installed by default in Ubuntu
[07:25] <Razor-X> me|ong: only because C-c is mapped to interrupt in most UNIX stuff
[07:25] <me|ong> hmm
[07:25] <me|ong> well i mena a menu to
[07:26] <me|ong> like you ever use teraterm?
[07:26] <me|ong> or windows hyper terminal?
[07:26] <thoreauputic> varsendagger: timidity is a commandline app unless you install timidity-interfaces-extra
[07:26] <varsendagger> my rosegarden whats to start JACK
[07:26] <Razor-X> me|ong: ... heh, I only use Putty in Windows
[07:26] <me|ong> lol dang
[07:26] <SEJeff> !enter
[07:26] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[07:26] <me|ong> well its just a quick menu up top.. like "Edit>PAste"
[07:27] <me|ong> then it pastes text ive copied into the window as if i typed it
[07:27] <thoreauputic> varsendagger: have a look here http://linux-sound.org/
[07:27] <me|ong> saves AGES on typing commands forever when i can just make a text file configuration then paste ;)
[07:27] <thoreauputic> varsendagger: and on the wiki there's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[07:27] <Razor-X> me|ong: oh yeah, Konsole and Gnome-Terminal work with that
[07:28] <tiann> this new breeze installation interface sucks. the installing package stage is not like the hooray at all and i can't see exactly what it is being installed and where it hangs.
[07:28] <me|ong> oh
[07:28] <me|ong> right on then :)
[07:28] <Razor-X> but then, I never use that, emacs and most SH based shells in general support using kill-ring commands, so once you get used to that, it becomes a breeze
[07:28] <varsendagger> is this going to be a long and involved process
[07:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> where did the gperfection2 icon theme go?!
[07:28] <sambagirl> thank you for the command to start the thing.
[07:28] <Razor-X> 3 months of learning to use the kill ring broke about 8 years of C-c and C-v
[07:28] <SEJeff> sambagirl: Did that work?
[07:28] <SEJeff> Razor-X: kill ring?
[07:29] <thoreauputic> !midi
[07:29] <ubotu> it has been said that midi is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[07:29] <Razor-X> SEJeff: :( am I using emacs speak?
[07:29] <SEJeff> Razor-X: You are
[07:29] <Razor-X> in emacs, using C-k and C-y uses the kill wring
[07:29] <SEJeff> Razor-X: Never used emacs. I broke my teeth on vi years ago
[07:29] <Razor-X> BASH supports it by default, but I don't know the non-emacs terminology behind it
[07:29] <sambagirl> sudo: /etc/init.d/apache2: command not found
[07:29] <SEJeff> Razor-X: So you have one of the infamous "emacs claws"
[07:29] <Razor-X> SEJeff: I initially picked up vi, but never religiously
[07:30] <sambagirl> the command i used is not valid?
[07:30] <SEJeff> sambagirl: sudo apt-get install apache2 and then do that command again
[07:30] <Razor-X> SEJeff: oh yes, of course
[07:30] <Razor-X> infuriating I can't use it in certain X apps
[07:30] <SEJeff> sambagirl: You need to have a webserver installed
[07:30] <snowowl> k
[07:30] <Razor-X> C-f, C-p, C-v, M-v, the works :P
[07:30] <SEJeff> Razor-X: :screwemacs!
[07:30] <sambagirl> ok
[07:30] <vladuz976> hey anybody know what to do when at firefox start the window
[07:30] <vladuz976>                    pops up that ask you for what profile to choose? i have
[07:30] <vladuz976>                    actually no firefox processes running, so i don't know why i
[07:30] <Razor-X> SEJeff: :P
[07:30] <vladuz976>                    get that
[07:30] <sambagirl> so i can use synamptic to install it?
[07:30] <vladuz976> hmmm sorry
[07:31] <Razor-X> M-x kill-vi
[07:31] <SEJeff> sambagirl: yes, install apache2
[07:31] <intelikey> yep sambagirl
[07:31] <vladuz976> anybody have taht firefox startup problem?
[07:31] <sambagirl> now that i install KDE i cannot find synamptic anymore.
[07:31] <SEJeff> Razor-X: :!sudo killall emacs richard-stallman
[07:31] <varsendagger> my firefox seems slow
[07:31] <SEJeff> sambagirl: kpackage
[07:31] <Razor-X> SEJeff: ..... *GASP*
[07:31] <Razor-X> you can hate emacs but.... Richard Stallman?!
[07:31] <Razor-X> he *made* GNU
[07:32] <thoreauputic> varsendagger: http://fasterfox.mozdev.org/installation.html
[07:32] <SEJeff> Razor-X: The gpl is written. He is done and he stinks
[07:32] <Razor-X> if it wasn't for Stallman, you probably wouldn't be here!
[07:32] <SEJeff> Razor-X: Wrong.
[07:32] <sambagirl> kynaptic instead of synaptic?
[07:32] <SEJeff> Razor-X: If it wasn't for stallman, I would be a Unix Admin, not a Unix / Linux admin
[07:32] <tdn_> How do I upgrade from Ubuntu 5.04 to 5.10?
[07:32] <Razor-X> SEJeff: exactly, you wouldn't be in #ubuntu
[07:32] <Razor-X> :)
[07:32] <Razor-X> because there would be no #ubuntu
[07:32] <thoreauputic> !tell tdn_ about breezy
[07:33] <darksoul> what program can i use to encrypt a entire partion
[07:33] <Razor-X> I doubt Linus Torvalds would have acheived anything special without GNU
[07:33] <Razor-X> and the same with GNU
[07:33] <darksoul> why do you like gnome more then kde?..
[07:33] <SEJeff> Razor-X: I was joking. RMS stinks as he has hydrophobia
[07:34] <SEJeff> Razor-X: And he does all of his conferences barefoot. Very very odd bird
[07:34] <varsendagger> thoreauputic, thanks
[07:34] <Razor-X> SEJeff: :)
[07:34] <sealfish> qc
[07:34] <Razor-X> I wouldn't doubt that
[07:34] <Razor-X> I mean, Aristotle ran throughout the city naked after he figured out his problem
[07:34] <varsendagger> darksoul, because they makde ubuntu standard with gnome
[07:34] <Razor-X> and thanks to him, we have the basis of hydrostatics :)
[07:34] <SEJeff> Razor-X: He had a girlfriend once that forced him to take weekly showers, but he got rid of her :)
[07:34] <Razor-X> SEJeff: mmm, my mom makes me do that
[07:35] <Razor-X> I'm not that bad though, I tend to do it weekly, my mom forces me to do it more :)
[07:35] <SEJeff> darksoul: gnome is simpler and cleaner. If you want to see all of the flashy colors and have 50 million preferences, use kde. If you want to get work done, use gnome
[07:35] <intelikey> too much bathing will weeken ya
[07:36] <Razor-X> I would not want to live with someone who will make me bathe or become clean, that would not be pleasurable, but enough of this, this is eclecting too much into the domain of #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:36] <sealfish> exit
[07:36] <SEJeff> Razor-X: I am fanatical about hygeine
[07:36] <Razor-X> SEJeff: mmmm, have fun at that, I heard a lot of OCDs also like hygeine :P
[07:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> how do i install in icon theme to /usr/share/icons instead of to my home directory?
[07:36] <Razor-X> (nothing against OCDs, they just scare me, since they contrast my lazy self)
[07:36] <SEJeff> Razor-X: I'm not OCD, I just don't like having greasy hair. It feely nasty
[07:37] <SEJeff> s/feely/feels/
[07:37] <SEJeff> Razor-X: How long have you used linux
[07:37] <Razor-X> SEJeff: it's easy to ignore, especially when you already have a lot of pimples on your face thanks to raging hormones, and ever-present bags underneath your eyes thanks to allergies and an aversion to sleep
[07:37] <dr_willis> BROKEN_LADDER,  could install it as a user.. then as root copy the files over.. and change the owensrship
[07:37] <Razor-X> SEJeff: 6 years, my last 2 years have been the most concentrated usage, though
[07:38] <SEJeff> Razor-X: You mean you started using linux when you were 9?
[07:39] <SEJeff> Razor-X: And 2 1/2 years ago was when the major linux desktop focus started
[07:39] <intelikey>  /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> dr_willis but then how to i install it so that theme manager sees it?
[07:39] <Razor-X> SEJeff: wow, I shouldn't have sleptover that long, change that to 4 years
[07:40] <thoreauputic> Razor-X: actually your reference to Aristotle should have been to Archimedes :)
[07:41] <thoreauputic> it was Archimedes who ran from the public bath naked shouting "Eureka!"
[07:41] <Razor-X> thoreauputic: my bad
[07:41] <Razor-X> like I said, I should've slept
[07:41] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:41] <sambagirl> y
[07:41] <Razor-X> i'm on my 5th shot of caffeine, IIRC
[07:41] <sambagirl> how do you start apache2 again? i installed it i think
[07:41] <SEJeff> sambagirl: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[07:42] <sambagirl> it does not work SEJeff
[07:42] <Madpilot> sambagirl: ubotu should have sent you a msg w/ a URL - that's got info on stopping/starting/restarting Apache, along with a lot of other info
[07:42] <sambagirl> ahh it works this time :)
[07:42] <jessid_> hello...is it possible to set the amount of lines the central wheel of the mouse can move??
[07:42] <malv> what do you guys think of this 1-day redesign of Debian.org http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~macchiea/download.html ?
[07:43] <intelikey> jessid_ in what env ?
[07:43] <intelikey> and yes it is.
[07:43] <SEJeff> malv: thats nice, you should post that on the mailinglists
[07:43] <sambagirl> ahh ok i thought it was someone trying to chat privately or something.
[07:44] <jessid_> intelikey do you mean if i use gnome, kde, etc...if so I use gnome
[07:44] <malv> SEJeff: thanks, its actually for a technical communications class
[07:44] <thoreauputic> malv: it's an improvement :) But rather off-topic here I guess
[07:44] <SEJeff> malv: You should still post it, it might be accepted
[07:44] <malv> yea, just wondering =)
[07:44] <intelikey> yes i meant that jessid_ but i don't use gnome, sorry i can't tell you how.
[07:45] <jessid_> intelikey ok...thanks...by the way, what do you use?
[07:45] <intelikey> ? changing mouse settings in gnome
[07:46] <OptiPlex> heh, I HAVE to use gnome.. i didn't use shipit to get kubuntu lol
[07:46] <intelikey> fluxbox kde and xfce   mostly kde jessid_
[07:46] <jessid_> intelikey i havent heard of fluxbox...is it good?
[07:47] <hugo_> hello
[07:47] <thoreauputic> !fluxbox
[07:47] <ubotu> somebody said fluxbox was forked off blackbox and is found at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net, or the new blackbox, with antialias, better menu, etc.
[07:47] <Xenguy> I just tried a bunch of 'light-weight' window managers (openbox, fluxbox, icewm, wmaker)...
[07:47] <intelikey> OptiPlex no you don't have to, you can install fluxbox over a dialup connection.   i did it two days ago,
[07:47] <Xenguy> and frankly, I cannot see major performance gains over xfce4...
[07:47] <hugo_> what is the cmd for install a .deb?
[07:47] <Xenguy> which actually rather amazes me :-)
[07:47] <agtnz> I luv xfce
[07:47] <intelikey> jessid_ if you need light weight yes flux is very good.
[07:47] <keikoz> hugo_ dpkg -i file.deb
[07:48] <hugo_> ty
[07:48] <OptiPlex> heh, I have about 4 more hours to use this connection :] 
[07:48] <thoreauputic> Xenguy: xfce4 is indeed pretty efficient
[07:48] <Xenguy> thoreauputic: I was really surprised - I thought openbox or icewm would wipe the floor, y'know?
[07:48] <jessid_> intelikey ok...thanks...may be it is good for servers...I guess
[07:48] <intelikey> OptiPlex so install it right quick and if you don't like you can ditch it later.
[07:48] <thoreauputic> Xenguy: takes longer to start than fluxbox though, understandably
[07:48] <OptiPlex> maybe if I can get my emulator downloaded within the hour, I might grab flux. also, are there any other good blackbox clones that you folks have tried? :] 
[07:49] <Xenguy> thoreauputic: but not that much (at least on this hardware)
[07:49] <intelikey> yes if you want a gui on a server flux would work fine.
[07:49] <Xenguy> OptiPlex: openbox is worth a look...
[07:49] <OptiPlex> is it in universe/multiverse? I havent even looked lol
[07:49] <thoreauputic> Xenguy: depends if you start gnome and/or KDE services with xfce4, mostly
[07:49] <Xenguy> OptiPlex: actually leaner than flux AFAICT
[07:49] <BlackDalek> hello!
[07:50] <Xenguy> thoreauputic: hrm, I don't think I am doing that
[07:50] <BlackDalek> what is minimum sys requirements to install ubuntu linux?
[07:50] <OptiPlex> omg, I tried icewm on SuSE on pc, it scared me
[07:50] <thoreauputic> Xenguy: well, it's an option (if you have gnome or KDE installed)
[07:50] <hugo_> Help I've some problem with skype
[07:51] <mustard5> hugo_, what is your issue with skype?
[07:51] <hugo_> simple he wont start
[07:51] <mustard5> hugo_, it has a long delay starting btw
[07:51] <intelikey> BlackDalek for the installer to work you have to have about 48m ram and 250m free hd    but it can be installed manually on a 486 with 24m ram and 124m hd.
[07:51] <hugo_> btw?
[07:51] <mustard5> hugo_, it takes 20 seconds to load up for me
[07:51] <hugo_> hum ok
[07:52] <mustard5> hugo_, where did you install it from?
[07:52] <OptiPlex> Xenguy: is there an 'easy' way to pick wm at boot?
[07:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone understand how keymaps work now in breezy?  the keymap files all end in .gz
[07:52] <hugo_> .deb pack
[07:52] <Xenguy> OptiPlex: yes...
[07:52] <mustard5> hugo_, k
[07:52] <OptiPlex> :] 
[07:52] <mustard5> hugo_, it doesnt like other sound devices running either
[07:52] <hugo_> hum I restart X
[07:52] <hugo_> no
[07:52] <Xenguy> OptiPlex: disable gdm from starting up, then insert 'exec yourfavouritewindowmanger' into ~/.xsession
[07:52] <Xenguy> OptiPlex: basically
[07:52] <tiann> the ubuntu installation didn't ask me to setup root , and now how do i become root ??
[07:53] <intelikey> BROKEN_LADDER that just means they are gzip compressed
[07:53] <BlackDalek> i put together some old computer bits to try ubuntu. I only had a spare 3Gb hard disk. It froze up during the install, then I rebooted and it gave me some spiel about installing some programs failed, then went into some command/console type thing
[07:53] <thoreauputic> !tell tiann about root
[07:53] <Xenguy> OptiPlex: hrm, maybe that solution didn't match your question
[07:53] <hugo_> Hum back but I've start skype
[07:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> intelikey but they are completely different files in different locations.  is ubuntu back to using xmodmap?
[07:54] <OptiPlex> hm, like you do in FreeBSD? "gnome-session" "startkde"?
[07:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> hugo_ screw skype.
[07:54] <tiann> thoreauputic: thanks
[07:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> skype is proprietary
[07:54] <OptiPlex> just add exec... boy thats easy :] 
[07:54] <thoreauputic> tiann: np :)
[07:54] <hugo_> I remember in the dpkg I see some errors
[07:54] <Xenguy> OptiPlex: you can easily switch between kde, gnome, and xfce4 with gdm activated tho (if you don't want other options)
[07:54] <intelikey> BROKEN_LADDER idk
[07:55] <Razor-X> BROKEN_LADDER: sadly, there is almost no viable alternative, there are alternatives, but they aren't very effecient
[07:55] <OptiPlex> actually I dont hate gnome too bad, the only thing that pisses me off about hoary is that it screws up my screen orientation a bit
[07:55] <OptiPlex> and i have to use xvidtune every time I boot
[07:55] <Madpilot> OptiPlex: filed a bug about that?
[07:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> Razor-X alternative to WHAT?
[07:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> Razor-X xorg had switched to xkb.
[07:56] <Razor-X> BROKEN_LADDER: skype
[07:56] <OptiPlex> nah not yet, im not too motivated to do that tonight due to low bandwidth :[
[07:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> Razor-X there is sip!
[07:56] <Razor-X> BROKEN_LADDER: is it very effecient?
[07:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> Razor-X http://gizmoproject.com/ uses sip.  sip is an open protocol.  you can call me on my sip phone sitting right here on my desk.
[07:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> ??
[07:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> efficient?
[07:56] <Xenguy> sorry I can't handle all cap nicks
[07:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> read about session initiation protocol.
[07:56] <OptiPlex> then again, this is on an imac so I guess it's not THAT big a deal lol
[07:56] <Razor-X> BROKEN_LADDER: does it use a similar concept as Skype?
[07:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> Razor-X it uses a better concept.
[07:57] <hugo_> I remember in the dpkg I see some errors
[07:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> Razor-X it's not proprietary.
[07:57] <Razor-X> the very basis of Skype's traffic sharing gives it a natural edge over most other implementations
[07:57] <Razor-X> BROKEN_LADDER: *gasp* it's not proprietary
[07:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> Razor-X with sip, you can use ANY SERVER you want to.  so john@doe.com can call jane@smith.net
[07:57] <mustard5> hugo_, ok have you used pastebin before?
[07:57] <mustard5> ubotu: tell hugo_ about pastebin
[07:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> Razor-X that's right, it's not proprietary, unlike skype.
[07:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> skype should be destroyed.
[07:57] <BlackDalek> when i was installing from the ubuntu install CD it asked me if I wanted to erase the drive, so I told it yes, then a while after that during progam installing it froze up. Was it a mistake to let it erase the disk?
[07:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> BlackDalek no
[07:58] <mustard5> hugo_, did you get a message from ubotu about the pastebin?
[07:58] <hugo_> pastebin?
[07:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> does ubuntu use xmodmap or xkb?
[07:58] <mustard5> hugo_, paste your error messages here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl   and then show me the URL after you submit your pasted content
[07:58] <Razor-X> BROKEN_LADDER: I'm not going to burst into flames if I use proprietary software :)
[07:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> Razor-X check out http://voipsupply.com/  they sell tons of sip phones.
[07:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> Razor-X it's not the software that is the problem.
[07:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> Razor-X it's the PROTOCOL
[07:59] <hugo_> I've no error msg
[07:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> Razor-X if you use skype, you're just delaying the spread of sip, which is a real standard.  open and free.
[07:59] <ilba7r> I am tying to mount a floopy disk but breezy seems not to be able to recognize it. I am using gnome to do that any ideas?
[07:59] <mustard5> hugo_, the error message when you dpkg
[07:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> thoreauputic text does not have volume. i don't believe that letters can annoy you unless you are just being pedantic.
[07:59] <Puiu> I did apt-get install selinux-policy*; then I changed my mind after and did apt-get remove selinux-policy
[08:00] <Xenguy> Until then BROKEN_LADDER is ignored here - sorry...
[08:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> text is totally silent.
[08:00] <mustard5> hugo_, dpkg again and show me the error
[08:00] <BlackDalek> I have just rebooted and reformatted the hard drive. I'll give installing another go then come back here if anything strange happens this time.
[08:00] <ilba7r> do i have for example to specify that the floppy is dos formated
[08:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> yeah, if you have some arbitrary dislike of capital letters, by all means ignore me.
[08:00] <Puiu> now when I try to boot I get a kernel panic...what to do?
[08:00] <Madpilot> BROKEN_LADDER: we've had this argument before - all caps = shouting, by convention...
[08:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm using an all caps font so i can't even see your lowercase silliness.
[08:00] <thoreauputic> BROKEN_LADDER: it's called convention and protocol - whether you like it or not, people find caps annoying
[08:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> thoreauputic that's stupid.
[08:00] <OptiPlex> mkdir /floppy
[08:00] <BROKEN_LADDER> i find lowercase letters annoying and redundant
[08:01] <bnD> BROKEN_LADDER: how are they redundant?
[08:01] <OptiPlex> mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy
[08:01] <OptiPlex> its easier in freebsd :[
[08:01] <kemik> lowercase letters are easier to read than Caps
[08:01] <Xenguy> fuck bsd
[08:01] <Razor-X> BROKEN_LADDER: sadly, in order to partake in society, one requires certain measures of social entrenchment
[08:01] <hugo_> (Lecture de la base de donnes... 59106 fichiers et rpertoires dj installs.)Prparation du remplacement de skype 1.2.0.18-1 (en utilisant skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb) ...
[08:01] <hugo_> Dpaquetage de la mise  jour de skype ...
[08:01] <hugo_> dpkg: des problmes de dpendances empchent la configuration de skype:
[08:01] <hugo_>  skype dpend de libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2); cependant:
[08:01] <hugo_>   Paquet libqt3c102-mt n'est pas install.
[08:01] <OptiPlex> heh, Im working on chapter 1 of my book :] 
[08:01] <hugo_> dpkg: erreur de traitement de skype (--install):
[08:01] <ilba7r> will try that though floppy is under /mnt here
[08:01] <hugo_>  problmes de dpendances - laiss non configur
[08:01] <brownie17> Xenguy, language
[08:01] <hugo_> Des erreurs ont t rencontres pendant l'excution:
[08:01] <thoreauputic> BROKEN_LADDER: *shrug* if you want to be annoying I can just /ignore you so personally I don't really care
[08:01] <hugo_>  skype
[08:01] <aftertaf> hugo_: dont paste here
[08:01] <mustard5> hugo_, in the pastebin!
[08:01] <Xenguy> brownie17: aye
[08:01] <kemik> !fr
[08:01] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:01] <bnD> thats a lot of french
[08:01] <bnD> lol
[08:01] <hugo_> ok
[08:01] <_native_> Xenguy; what? about bsd to advanced for ya?
[08:02] <mustard5> hugo_, paste your error messages here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:02] <Razor-X> hugo_: parlez-vous anglais?
[08:02] <Xenguy> _native_: bah
[08:02] <aftertaf> hugo there is a different skype package for that problem.
[08:02] <OptiPlex> excerpt: If you've ever had the misfortune of hearing really bad mariachi music for several hours consecutively, then you understand how badly I wanted to take matters into my own hands and kick his ass back to Mexico.
[08:02] <OptiPlex> :] 
[08:02] <Xenguy> take bsd to #bsd
[08:02] <Razor-X> Xenguy: exactly
[08:02] <Razor-X> I hate BSD so much, I don't use ``ps aux'' :)
[08:02] <_native_> Razor-X; shut up
[08:02] <Xenguy> heh
[08:03] <_native_> :)
[08:03] <intelikey> i dont either i use 'ps -A x '
[08:03] <Razor-X> _native_: :P
[08:03] <Xenguy> _native_: language :-)
[08:03] <_native_> i use ps axvu
[08:03] <_native_> :-P
[08:03] <mustard5> aftertaf, you up to helping hugo?
[08:03] <OptiPlex> :[
[08:03] <aftertaf> !skype
[08:03] <ubotu> somebody said skype was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:03] <thoreauputic> guys, BSD vs Linux wars in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:03] <Razor-X> _native_: so... much... BSDness! :)
[08:03] <Razor-X> but yeah, let's drop it
[08:03] <_native_> yeah
[08:03] <mustard5> aftertaf,  I have a feeling he won't see that :)
[08:04] <aftertaf> hugo_ regarde ce lien d'ubotu pour skype ;)
[08:04] <Xenguy> it's the wrong channel - end of story
[08:04] <mustard5> aftertaf, he's off at the pastebin atm ;)
[08:04] <OptiPlex> i swear though, a freebsd/ubuntu hybrid would be the best OS for ppc :] 
[08:04] <Razor-X> thoreauputic: i'm slightly glad I don't wear your mantle on my shoulder, and my schooling cut into my hopes of becoming a big name in the #ubuntu community :)
[08:04] <aftertaf> !tell hugo_ about skype
[08:04] <Razor-X> aftertaf: :)
[08:04] <kemik> didnt hugo leave?
[08:04] <aftertaf> hehe Razor-X :)
[08:04] <Xenguy> OptiPlex: OK, I'll ignore you if you insist on bsd trolling
[08:04] <ilba7r> thanx optplex
[08:04] <mustard5> kemik, so he did :)
[08:04] <mustard5> kemik, I missed that
[08:05] <thoreauputic> Razor-X: hah - I'm hardly a big name - I just got asked to join up and be an op
[08:05] <OptiPlex> hm, i wonder what to write the next paragraph about
[08:05] <OptiPlex> ideas? :] 
[08:05] <mustard5> aftertaf, is he in the other channel?
[08:05] <Razor-X> thoreauputic: yeah, but I don't have the time anymore to complete my documentation projects
[08:05] <aftertaf> thoreauputic: 12 letters tho, quite big ;)
[08:05] <thoreauputic> Razor-X: it's more fun not being one, I assure you
[08:05] <Razor-X> I still have my command-line guide in its early draft form
[08:05] <OptiPlex> uhh Xenguy: I was talking about my book
[08:05] <Razor-X> thoreauputic: it's a badge of pride, a 15 year old Linux channel op is pride enough for me
[08:05] <aftertaf> mustard5: still on freenode quelquepart ;)
[08:05] <OptiPlex> i1ba7r: did that work?
[08:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> crap, i meant breezy
[08:06] <Razor-X> all I really have time for now is for small essays, stuff like my Firefox article
[08:06] <mustard5> aftertaf, I just found in the french channel yeah :)
[08:06] <aftertaf> hehe will see if he go that link then.
[08:07] <OptiPlex> Razor-X: I wrote like 15 journals on random things, then my Mom casually says: "write some fiction." ..until then I hadn't thought much about that :] 
[08:08] <pawan> I am getting crashes with my current breezy. Things freeze. I want to log stuff at a higher level. Do I tweak /etc/sysctl.conf to do that?
[08:08] <Razor-X> OptiPlex: my mom doesen't want me to write in general, she believes it a waste of time, but that's not a subject worth discussing here :P
[08:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> can someone tell me whether breezy uses xkb or xmodmap?
[08:08] <Razor-X> OptiPlex: I should rather focus my attention on schooling
[08:09] <OptiPlex> Razor-X: lol my old man told me playing guitar was a waste of time, it took me ten years to find out he was right
[08:09] <BROKEN_LADDER> OptiPlex maybe he was wrong, and you just sold out.
[08:09] <yi> does anyone know where i could the the mozconf that ubuntu used for compiling firefox?
[08:10] <mustard5> aftertaf, heh..he left without answering doh!
[08:10] <aftertaf> pff
[08:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> OptiPlex my family always derides me for moving to california to pursue a music career.  and every day i have to tell them, this is what i want to do with my life, so shut up
[08:10] <mustard5> aftertaf, ah well ..you tried:)
[08:10] <OptiPlex> Nah, I joined a band that was more concerned with drugs than music and did that for awhile and spend a few years recovering.
[08:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know ANYTHING about keymaps in breezy?
[08:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> they are all screwed up.
[08:10] <intelikey> BROKEN_LADDER less /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what is under keyboard, it might give you a klew
[08:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> i can't find the uncompressed versions
[08:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> intelikey i know which keymap it is.
[08:10] <durt> all the good music has already been invented, so just give up ;)
[08:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> i just don't know how it's being accessed.
[08:11] <OptiPlex> personally, I'd rather write politically-motivated material
[08:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> durt pfft
[08:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> durt tell that to coldplay
[08:11] <OptiPlex> and teach people literature, so Im changing my major to English :] 
[08:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> Ophiocus a lot of my music is about encryption and politics.  big brother stuff
[08:11] <pawan> musicians should expect to stay broke. Like the starving artists of the 19th century.
[08:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> pawan not if they have the talent to make it.
[08:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> god dammit
[08:11] <brownie17> BROKEN_LADDER, i have a friend precussionist, who specialises in timpanies and xylophone, who is 15, her dad told her she would never make it, and then she got into a college in the city, where they have a 99% success rating for gettings jobs afterwards
[08:12] <OptiPlex> heh, the ending to 1984 sucked :[
[08:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> brownie17 awesome!
[08:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> brownie17 good to hear someone who's not a pessimist!
[08:12] <OptiPlex> woot, my keramik theme for gnome is done
[08:12] <Xenguy> OptiPlex: you could do that over dial-up in a couple of nights - it's do-able
[08:12] <pawan> BROKEN_LADDER : that's like saying: They won't be broke if they have made it. Musical talent itself has little to do with if you make it.
[08:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> arrghhh...why is the keymaps system in breezy afu and not documented?!
[08:12] <durt> brownie17, so? she's still a failure and should do something less ... um ... gay
[08:13] <OptiPlex> heh, ive been playing guitar since I was 14, and I've just NOW started writing decent material
[08:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> pawan that's stupid.  it has TONS to do with whether you make it.
[08:13] <OptiPlex> um do what over a couple of nights, KDE?
[08:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> pawan i'm a musician in san francisco, and i see which artists do well and which ones don't.  the ones who do, are better than the ones who don't.  tehy are just better all around.
[08:13] <Razor-X> durt: ... gay?
[08:13] <Xenguy> OptiPlex: breezy
[08:13] <thoreauputic> OK please move to #ubuntu-offtopic - that's what it's for
[08:13] <thoreauputic> !gay
[08:14] <OptiPlex> its all about merchandising yourself
[08:14] <OptiPlex> :|
[08:14] <Razor-X> thoreauputic: I don't think that should be tolerated
[08:14] <thoreauputic> !+gay
[08:14] <ubotu> somebody said gay was the dictionary says "Excited with merriment; manifesting sportiveness or delight; inspiring delight; livery; merry."  But some people don't know what it means, I guess  Some highly ignorant folks think it's an insult of some sort.  Who can tell why?
[08:14] <OptiPlex> this is the MORAL support channel, you want #ubuntu-tech :] 
[08:14] <pawan> BROKEN_LADDER : merchandizing != musical talent is what I mean.
[08:14] <Razor-X> OptiPlex: :P
[08:14] <OptiPlex> heh Xenguy: I've got 14 copies coming in the mail sometime lol
[08:14] <OptiPlex> I should've looked closer to see if I could've got kubuntu
[08:14] <OptiPlex> I like KDE a bit better :] 
[08:14] <Xenguy> OptiPlex: cool, that works too
[08:15] <OptiPlex> heh too bad I wont be able to use 7 of em for awhile
[08:15] <Xenguy> OptiPlex: you can just apt-get KDE if you want - can't hurt too bad :-)
[08:15] <bnD> anyone know how long receiving shipped discs typically takes?
[08:15] <mustard5> bnD, it can take up to 2 months
[08:15] <thoreauputic> bnD: 4-6 weeks usually
[08:15] <bnD> mustard5: thanks ;)
[08:16] <GigaClon> anyone got there breezy CD's?
[08:16] <mustard5> GigaClon, nope
[08:16] <bnD> i wonder why i was assigned a server in frankfurt when im in socal
[08:16] <thoreauputic> GigaClon: quite a few people have - reported on the users mailing list
[08:16] <Razor-X> bnD: assigned?
[08:16] <bnD> i used irc.freenode.net
[08:17] <Razor-X> pawan: even more painful is chmod to a beginner
[08:17] <bnD> and im on kornbluth.freenode.net (Frankfurt, DE, EU)
[08:17] <bnD> ;)
[08:17] <Razor-X> pawan: worst is the man page for MTAs
[08:17] <Razor-X> bnD: I'm given the same mirror
[08:17] <pawan> BROKEN_LADDER : so, Mariah Carey is better than your average SF rock band?
[08:17] <OptiPlex> heh, I need to jack my friends cable connection this week if he's not busy.
[08:17] <Razor-X> what does Mariah Carey have to do with Linux?
[08:17] <Razor-X> or Ubuntu?
[08:17] <mustard5> pawan, #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[08:17] <OptiPlex> that fool gets something like 600MB in ten minutes.
[08:18] <OptiPlex> heh chmod = russian grammatical permissions
[08:18] <OptiPlex> chmod 777 wow.txt  =    you me give lapdance
[08:18] <OptiPlex> omfg, dont say the M word again
[08:18] <Razor-X> OptiPlex: either my advanced state of caffeine-less lethargy makes me not understand that, or i'm not even going to ask what that means
[08:18] <Razor-X> but I will ask you not to use the word ``lapdance'' in this channel :P
[08:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> pawan mariah carey is talentless
[08:19] <OptiPlex> :[
[08:19] <brownie17> durt, shut your mouth
[08:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> pawan are you freakin kidding me?!
[08:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> pawan mariah f'ing carey?!  do you play a goddam instrument?
[08:19] <ksmurf> Is there a good alternitive to acidpro for linux ( for doing loops)?
[08:19] <Razor-X> ..........................
[08:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> ksmurf hydrogen
[08:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> ksmurf ardour
[08:20] <Razor-X> BROKEN_LADDER: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:20] <thoreauputic> that's enough off-topic stuff - you've been asked nicely
[08:20] <ksmurf> BROKEN u rock
[08:20] <OptiPlex> russian grammer is out-of-order like chmod's syntax
[08:20] <OptiPlex> :] 
[08:20] <OptiPlex> *grammar, wtf I need caffeine too
[08:20] <durt> brownie17, i was only half serious
[08:20] <OptiPlex> ksmurf, audacity is kewl :] 
[08:20] <thoreauputic> BROKEN_LADDER: watch your language or you'll be out of here, sorry
[08:20] <brownie17> BROKEN_LADDER, i play guitar a little, and i definately have musical appreciation. i've played piano for 3 years, bass guitar for 3, and lead for 3. mariah careys music completely revolves around singing. she is talentless
[08:21] <brownie17> durt, ok, forgiven
[08:21] <OptiPlex> I use it for loops/guitar/vocals/soundfx
[08:21] <aftertaf> take it offtopic or LEAVE!!!!!!!!
[08:21] <ksmurf> opti it is but it's not what I need
[08:21] <OptiPlex> :[
[08:21] <Razor-X> thoreauputic: please use your shiny op powers
[08:21] <pawan> BROKEN_LADDER : heh. Yes, actually. do a search on Maya Conglomerate and pick up my oggs. Free as in beer and speech.
[08:22] <aftertaf> lol OptiPlex
[08:22] <thoreauputic> OK I'll remove the gag in aminute - but please move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:22] <OptiPlex> ksmurf: loop+loop+hip-hop-vocal stuff?
[08:22] <Razor-X> OptiPlex: it won't, it's a RAM hog
[08:23] <thoreauputic> so please guys - #ubuntu-offtopic: now!
[08:23] <brownie17> hey, i stopped, there was no need to ban me!
[08:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> are any ubuntu devs in here?
[08:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> brownie17 militant extremism
[08:23] <thoreauputic> brownie17: it was a +q
[08:23] <brownie17> thoreauputic, "+q"?
[08:24] <varsendagger> what is a +q?
[08:24] <ksmurf> Opti yes
[08:24] <thoreauputic> brownie17: just a "gag" not a ban
[08:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> are _these_ the new keymap files in breezy? imdcvcjfxgrin
[08:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> err
[08:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> /usr/share/keymaps/i386/\
[08:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> they are all gzipped
[08:24] <OptiPlex> well it owned on windoze and suse, but then again I had 50 extra mhz :] 
[08:24] <OptiPlex> because that was my pc lol
[08:24] <OptiPlex> i love double-compression...
[08:24] <ksmurf> Optiplex yes.  I love Acidpro but I hat 'doze and it doesn't work with wine.
[08:25] <ksmurf> *hate
[08:26] <OptiPlex> heh, im not even gonna use doze until I get the parts to fix my athlon-xp box
[08:26] <OptiPlex> and thats gonna be nothing but video games lol
[08:26] <pawan> oy, BROKEN_LADDER , come on over to #ubuntu-offtopic so I can devastate you with my jibes and all!
[08:26] <MisterFarts> hey
[08:27] <OptiPlex> i was thinking about filming some crap with my camera, and downloading kino tonight to edit it
[08:27] <MisterFarts> does anyone know where i can define serif and sans serif fonts in gnome ?
[08:27] <OptiPlex> but my bandwidth said 'no' :] 
[08:28] <OptiPlex> try 'sessions'
[08:28] <pawan> anyone using a p4 on breezy? Getting freezes?
[08:28] <henk> I just compiled a tree of some software and after 'make install' it runs fine. How do i turn this into a .deb file, so I can give it to a friend to install?
[08:28] <OptiPlex> whoops no ttha tone
[08:28] <gerbma1> pawan, yes...and no
[08:28] <MisterFarts> anyone ?
[08:29] <GigaClon> henk, dpkg
[08:29] <varsendagger> hey i have a problem with timidy thoreauputic
[08:29] <MisterFarts> henk, can't your friend just untar ?
[08:29] <varsendagger> --- #flood
[08:29] <OptiPlex> lol i dont even know in gnome *wants kubuntu irl*
[08:29] <pawan> shit. it is freezing again as I speak.
[08:29] <OptiPlex> with no cpu fan
[08:30] <gerbma1> pawan, haha, not that it's funny ;p
[08:30] <OptiPlex> timidity owns :] 
[08:30] <henk> MisterFarts, sure i could just give him the build trees of the stuff and let him do a make install. But isn't that what debs are for ? and he gets to uninstall if he wants to
[08:30] <pawan> I wanna log this better. biab when the system reboots. Brings back memories of ms-windows.
[08:30] <l33txp> guys I am trying to install ubuntu.. I have created a swap and partition for it but durring installing.. I can't just select the partition I created... says something about a root file system or something.... WTF?!?!
[08:31] <MisterFarts> henk, there's no deb for the package that you compiled ?
[08:31] <MisterFarts> does anyone at all know how to change the gnome serif fonts ?
[08:31] <aftertaf> l33txp: you need to format it ;)
[08:31] <DR_K13> what is the command to trail my syslog?
[08:31] <OptiPlex> leet
[08:31] <OptiPlex> do this
[08:32] <OptiPlex> youll have to set your mount point of the main partition to '/'
[08:32] <OptiPlex> after you format that is :] 
[08:32] <henk> MisterFarts, no ofcourse not otherwise I whouldn't have gone to so mucht trouble now would i :)
[08:32] <gerbma1> DR_K13, tail -f ?
[08:32] <OptiPlex> dmesg
[08:32] <OptiPlex> um, i think.. dont hold me to that
[08:32] <MisterFarts> henk, just wondering what package doesn't already have a deb ? :)
[08:32] <henk> GigaClon, can you be more helpfull than just 'dpkg'
[08:33] <MisterFarts> henk, read the man page for dpkg
[08:33] <MisterFarts> henk, creating a package is pretty involved
[08:33] <l33txp> i'll try some more stuff.. thanks
[08:33] <GigaClon> henk dpkg --help
[08:33] <DR_K13> tail: warning: following standard input indefinitely is ineffective
[08:33] <durt> henk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003
[08:33] <polpak> DR_K13: tail -f /var/log/messages
[08:33] <OptiPlex> henk: man dpkg
[08:33] <MisterFarts> henk, you'll need to specify dependencies, root installation directory and so forth
[08:33] <DR_K13> lol I forgot
[08:33] <DR_K13> ty
[08:33] <henk> hmm and that is the only way ? seems strange to me it should be posible to automate most of the task I'd think
[08:33] <OptiPlex> :] 
[08:34] <MisterFarts> henk, automate most of what task ?
[08:34] <Boobek> hi
[08:34] <MisterFarts> henk, dpkg can't be expected to know what dependencies your package has
[08:34] <dooglus> henk: I apologise.  the answer is "checkinstall"
[08:35] <polpak> dooglus: I think there's also a way to do it with fakeroot
[08:35] <durt> checkinstall doesnt make a deb
[08:35] <DR_K13> polpak:   will that keep running or just read the log once>?  I want to trial it
[08:35] <dooglus> durt: wanna bet?
[08:36] <thoreauputic> durt: yes it does
[08:36] <brownie17> Boobek, hi
[08:36] <OptiPlex> mount_ntfs /dev/ad0s2 /windows | fdisk *.*
[08:36] <OptiPlex> heh
[08:36] <polpak> DR_K13: it will output the file indefinately until you stop it with CTRL-C
[08:36] <OptiPlex> i dont think that works anyway
[08:36] <MisterFarts> what's the point of creating a deb if it doesn't have dependencies
[08:36] <DR_K13> ty polpak
[08:37] <durt> oh - i thought it just tracked installed stuff
[08:37] <fansheng> hi
[08:37] <polpak> if you just want to read the last couple of lines and not "follow" it, you can just do tail /var/log/messages  OR tail -n 100 /var/log/messages
[08:37] <henk> MisterFarts, sure most of the dependencies can be resolved using the information on what is linked to the binaries, and by running the program with a trace and resolving those to the packages that deliever them seems not that hard to me
[08:38] <MisterFarts> henk, that will create dependencies on those particular libraries
[08:39] <MisterFarts> henk, when the program could in fact possibly run with other versions
[08:39] <OptiPlex> heh mc chris owns
[08:39] <gerbma1> haha...yes he certainly does
[08:39] <dooglus> how can I get the clock to be kept correct?  it's about an hour slow, even though I'm running ntdp
[08:39] <dooglus> ntpd
[08:40] <Seveas> dooglus, correct the timezone?
[08:40] <MisterFarts> henk, the program could also be using dlopen to access certain libraries at runtime
[08:40] <dooglus> Seveas: it's fine I think
[08:40] <MisterFarts> henk, and you wouldn't know that until yhou actually hit the proper branch of the code
[08:40] <OptiPlex> mmorpg's made me want cable a few months back, but now ubuntu REALLY makes me want cable :] 
[08:40] <varsendagger> thoreauputic, thanks
[08:40] <thoreauputic> varsendagger: no worries :)
[08:41] <MisterFarts> does anyone here knwo anything about GNOME ?
[08:41] <Seveas> MisterFarts, no, we ar all stupid...
[08:41] <MisterFarts> Seveas, it would appear so
[08:41] <MisterFarts> Seveas, i asked a pretty basic question, yet no one reponded
[08:41] <BlackDalek> installing ubuntu from CD - I'm up to the screen "Partition Disks". options are "erase entire disk IDE1 master (hda)", "erase entire disk and use LVM: IDE Master (hda)" or "manually edit partition table".. which do I select??
[08:41] <Seveas> didn't see the question
[08:41] <Seveas> what was it?
[08:42] <dooglus> MisterFarts: you asked a silly question.  of course we all know something about GNOME.  now what do you really want to know?
[08:42] <MisterFarts> Seveas, i want to change my serif and sans serif fonts
[08:42] <MisterFarts> dooglus, read above
[08:42] <Seveas> system -> preferences -> fonts
[08:42] <MisterFarts> Seveas, that wont
[08:42] <MisterFarts> Seveas, that won't do it
[08:42] <Seveas> sure it will
[08:42] <MisterFarts> Seveas, those are some other fonts
[08:42] <OptiPlex> BlackDalek: the third one :] 
[08:42] <Seveas> or else you will have to describe your problem better
[08:42] <MisterFarts> show me where i can change the definitions for "serif" in system->Preferences->fotns
[08:42] <OptiPlex> gee I hope these ubuntu-calender pics are good
[08:43] <MisterFarts> Seveas, i think the problem is well described :})
[08:43] <Seveas> MisterFarts, it is not
[08:43] <mustard5> MisterFarts, click on the button that says serif
[08:43] <MisterFarts> Seveas, gnome has a definition for "serif" fonts apparently
[08:43] <thoreauputic> MisterFarts: great approach by the way - alienate everyone by implying they are stupid then expect them to help
[08:43] <OptiPlex> correction MisterFarts: that WILL do it...
[08:43] <Seveas> what do you mean with 'the definition of serif'
[08:43] <mebaran151> dmix doesn't seem to work on my machine
[08:43] <mebaran151> whenever I enable it
[08:43] <mebaran151> I get massive lockups
[08:43] <MisterFarts> thoreauputic, actually it works quite well. people are actually helping me now :)
[08:43] <MisterFarts> thoreauputic, because they are offended
[08:43] <dooglus> can any of you dimwits help me with my clock problem?
[08:43] <OptiPlex> ...I'm not in love with fonts, so if that DOESN't do it, they're screwed
[08:44] <MisterFarts> before they were just ignoring
[08:44] <mebaran151> (as two apps compete for the snd dev)
[08:44] <mustard5> dooglus, heheh
[08:44] <Seveas> MisterFarts, it also helps to get kicked very quickly
[08:44] <me|ong> would you prefer worse?
[08:44] <MisterFarts> mustard5, there is no such button
[08:44] <me|ong> >:)
[08:44] <Seveas> OptiPlex, do NOT do that in here
[08:44] <MisterFarts> Seveas, i'll take my chances. it's better than not getting any response at all
[08:44] <henk> durt, that page is very helpfull thank you
[08:45] <MisterFarts> mustard5, there's no such button  in that menu
[08:45] <mustard5> MisterFarts, there is a button there that shows the current font though and font size
[08:45] <varsendagger> how do i make xfce look more like fluxbox and less like kde
[08:45] <MisterFarts> mustard5, yeah, but that doesn't define serigf
[08:45] <mustard5> MisterFarts, what do you mean by 'define'?
[08:45] <MisterFarts> mustard5, i already changed those fonts; the have no effect on the serif definitions apparently
[08:46] <MisterFarts> mustard5, apaprenty there is a concept of a system-wide 'serif' font
[08:46] <MisterFarts> mustard5, this 'serif' font maps to a real font somewhere
[08:46] <MisterFarts> i just don't knwo where
[08:46] <Seveas> MisterFarts, in that dialog...
[08:46] <durt> henk, i think checkinstall works too - im compiling bzflag now to try it
[08:46] <MisterFarts> Seveas, as i said, there is no "serif" definition in that dialog
[08:46] <Seveas> if you are too stupid to follow some directions, then we can't help
[08:47] <MisterFarts> Seveas, show me where that dialog says "serif font"
[08:47] <thoreauputic> varsendagger: if you want fluxbox, use fluxbox :) I do
[08:47] <dooglus> in /var/log/ntpstats, both peerstats and loopstats have been touched in the last minute.  but the time is still wrong.  any ideas what might be wrong?
[08:47] <MisterFarts> "application font"
[08:47] <Madpilot> MisterFarts: "serif" is, I think, the FreeSerif font...
[08:47] <MisterFarts> "desktop font"
[08:47] <Seveas> *sigh*
[08:47] <mustard5> MisterFarts, click on the font button for whatever thing you want to change...cycle through the font options...and look for serif
[08:47] <MisterFarts> mustard5, i want to change tthe definition for serif
[08:48] <varsendagger> thoreauputic, i cn't seem to configure fluxbox either
[08:48] <durt> heh
[08:48] <me|ong> doobie
[08:48] <thoreauputic> varsendagger: lots of good docs linked from http://fluxbox.org
[08:49] <me|ong> did you set it to use local or ntpd time?
[08:49] <OptiPlex> gee nice warning :[
[08:49] <varsendagger> heck i'll do it
[08:49] <me|ong> if its using local it might be getting you CMOS time
[08:49] <me|ong> and taking precedance
[08:49] <durt> since when does xfce look like kde?
[08:49] <teenz> hello.....im new to linux n i need help with installing n compiling c in ubuntu
[08:50] <teenz> ive used c in fedora core before using the c++ to compile but it does not seem to work in ubuntu
[08:50] <teenz> plz help
[08:50] <dooglus> me|ong: where's the setting?
[08:50] <polpak> teenz: what's the problem?
[08:50] <teenz> i need to use c++in linux
[08:50] <GigaClon> teenz, install the build-essential package
[08:50] <dooglus> me|ong: and anyway, it's been a long time since I rebooted.  the CMOS setting should have been corrected by now, right?
[08:50] <me|ong> not sure atm.. i was looking to night and saw it somewhere.. but i cant remember sorry man
[08:51] <durt> teenz: use g++
[08:51] <teenz> sorry...how do i do that?
[08:51] <me|ong> i dont think the OS touches your CMOS time
[08:51] <teenz> u mean g++ filename.c to compile?
[08:51] <Seveas> teenz, no
[08:51] <dooglus> teenz: install build-essential
[08:51] <teenz> how?
[08:51] <me|ong> thats usually set by the user when they put the computer together (if the facotry hasn't done it already)
[08:51] <GigaClon> teenz, with synaptic or apt-get
[08:51] <bnD> me|ong: doesnt it change it upon install?
[08:51] <me|ong> nope
[08:52] <me|ong> the os doesnt touch it
[08:52] <me|ong> it can read from it though
[08:52] <bnD> hrm, my system time in xp changed after installing breezy
[08:52] <dooglus> I think the OS reads CMOS time when it boots, and writes it when it shuts down
[08:52] <teenz> does ubuntu 5.10 come preinstalled with gcc?
[08:52] <me|ong> yeah cuz its updating soemwhere else
[08:52] <adriyel> Seveas, as a personal favor, that is a temporary ban on MisterFarts correct? I've had my moments too....
[08:52] <varsendagger> thoreauputic, shouldn't i just quit out of xfce4 and run startfluxbox?
[08:52] <oann> any girl using ubuntu?
[08:52] <Whity> Anyone got tv-out working well with nvidia drivers and feels like helping a guy thats struggling?
[08:52] <me|ong> but in linux theres a setting that says to use a remote or a local time
[08:52] <polpak> teenz: go to Applications->Add Applications
[08:52] <thoreauputic> varsendagger: yes
[08:52] <Seveas> adriyel, no it is a permanent ban
[08:52] <bnD> oann: you asling? :P
[08:52] <me|ong> and i think its set to local for default
[08:52] <teenz> k...then
[08:53] <GigaClon> teenz, in a console type sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:53] <thoreauputic> varsendagger: choose it from "Sessions"
[08:53] <adriyel> Seveas, :(
[08:53] <mustard5> oann, what relevance would that have?
[08:53] <Seveas> the idiot started to behave as a 3-year-old in private chat
[08:53] <OptiPlex> 5.04 does teenz, so I think 5.10 should :] 
[08:53] <teenz> thank you i'll try it and let u know
[08:53] <varsendagger> aint got gdm  --- should i install it?
[08:53] <thoreauputic> varsendagger: assuming you have GDM running...
[08:53] <darksoul> hey anyone here know how to repair a menu when the games are deleted?
[08:53] <polpak> teenz: err sorry, no.. Go to system->adminstration->synaptic
[08:53] <varsendagger> i ahve started fluxbox before
[08:53] <teenz> k...no problem thanks anyway
[08:53] <mustard5> darksoul, you on breezy?
[08:53] <allorder> what FS must have partition EXT3 ?
[08:53] <varsendagger> any way
[08:53] <dooglus> me|ong: there's a setting which tells it whether to interpret the CMOS time as local or UTC, right.  but after the CMOS time has been read, once, at boot, it's not read again.  and so ntpd should have corrected the time by now, even if the CMOS time was originally interpreted incorrectly.
[08:53] <polpak> teenz: under "Development" you should see g++
[08:54] <varsendagger> gnite
[08:54] <polpak> teenz: install that and you should be fine
[08:54] <darksoul> mustard5: yes. breezy kde..but no one at kde knows what to do
[08:54] <thoreauputic> varsendagger: OK in that case from tty run  startx /usr/bin/startfluxbox
[08:54] <oann> i downloaded MacromediaStudio For Linux from macromedias site, but its not .deb file.. how can i install it?
[08:54] <teenz> thank u polpak
[08:54] <mustard5> darksoul, ah ok...don't know the KDE interface
[08:54] <allorder> please what FS must have partition EXT3 ?
[08:54] <adriyel> Seveas, oh, in private? that was unwise. I suppose I've had my moments, but I don't think they were as bad as you seem to be describing] 
[08:54] <OptiPlex> Seveas: #neworder on outerweb.net is a 3-yr-old-run channel, so dont go there :] 
[08:54] <durt> what kind of file is it oann?
[08:55] <oann> durt : its flash.bin ?
[08:55] <darksoul> anyone
[08:55] <darksoul> *sigh*
[08:55] <OptiPlex> oann: is it a tar.gz file?
[08:55] <derrickw> hey guys, i've got a question. i'm ordering some vodka to make white russians for some friends and i don't know what kind to buy. i find that potato vodka is more effective than grain, but belvedere seems like a waste of money since i'm mixing.
[08:55] <derrickw> any thoughts?
[08:55] <mustard5> darksoul, try searching for where it's listed in the usr/share directories
[08:55] <oann> OptiPlex : its macromedia suit... dreamviewer flash etc.. thereis flash.bin
[08:55] <darksoul> mustard5: why do you prefer gnome over kde?
[08:56] <OptiPlex> :[
[08:56] <oann> ah ok i started applications..thanx
[08:56] <darksoul> o
[08:56] <darksoul> m
[08:56] <darksoul> f
[08:56] <darksoul> g
[08:56] <mustard5> darksoul, gnome came as default on ubuntu :)
[08:56] <darksoul> all my media is gone
[08:56] <OptiPlex> stolichnaya :] 
[08:56] <Lathiat> darksoul: try #kubuntu
[08:56] <thoreauputic> derrickw: umm - *ubuntu-offtopic ?
[08:56] <OptiPlex> stoli is russian :] 
[08:56] <darksoul> all. my. media. is. gone. this. means. my. hdd. and. partions. and. everything
[08:56] <teenz> i hav another doubt.........how can i run my .avi n .dat files in ubuntu 5.10?
[08:56] <darksoul> i did, they are no help..
[08:56] <derrickw> mustard5 - install kde. it runs much smoother, it's prettier, it's just better all around
[08:56] <durt> oann: probably best to follow whatever instructions it has, but run ./whatever.bin in the directory where it is
[08:57] <darksoul> all that i know is kde is beginning to piss me off
[08:57] <mustard5> derrickw, I'm fine with gnome thanks
[08:57] <OptiPlex> oann: never messed with macromedia on linux, so Im no help. Sorry :[
[08:57] <adriyel> ubotu tell oann about flash
[08:57] <bnD> ive never liked kde, couldnt tell you why
[08:57] <derrickw> plus kubuntu installs with amarok, which is an amazing media player
[08:57] <bnD> been a long time since ive used it
[08:57] <darksoul> ok if i installed gnome would it repair all this?
[08:57] <teenz> .how can i run my .avi n .dat files in ubuntu 5.10?
[08:57] <durt> xmms is also amazing
[08:57] <oann> OptiPlex : its for linux..
[08:58] <mustard5> darksoul, your problems sound far more serious
[08:58] <derrickw> although i suppose you could just apt-get isntall amarok
[08:58] <adriyel> ubotu tell teenz about restricted formats
[08:58] <darksoul> *sigh*
[08:58] <derrickw> install*
[08:58] <OptiPlex> teenz: use totem
[08:58] <thoreauputic> !tell teenz about restricted
[08:58] <mustard5> darksoul, I suspect you have done something silly to your system
[08:58] <darksoul> as in..
[08:58] <adriyel> thoreauputic, way ahead of you, pay attention :P
[08:58] <mustard5> darksoul, I could only speculate :)
[08:58] <thoreauputic> adriyel: heh :)
[08:58] <polpak> teenz: You should look at the Ubuntu Starter Guide
[08:58] <adriyel> mustard5, thanks for the advice earlier,  I'll be applying it tomorrow
[08:58] <darksoul> The file or folder media:/hda1/ does not exist.
[08:58] <teenz> k ill do that
[08:58] <polpak> teenz: if you click the help icon on your taskbar
[08:58] <OptiPlex> oann: i just said ive never used it on linux
[08:58] <polpak> teenz: it's in there
[08:59] <adriyel> polpak, I already answered teenz question, shush.
[08:59] <teenz> got it polpak
[08:59] <mustard5> adriyel, yeah?  *tries to remember*..hehehe I give so much advice I forget ;)
[08:59] <darksoul> The file or folder media:/hda1/ does not exist.
[08:59] <adriyel> mustard5, female/relationship advice.
[08:59] <darksoul> whats up with this..
[08:59] <mustard5> adriyel, ah of course!
[08:59] <adriyel> darksoul, what did you do to fsck it up?
[08:59] <darksoul> ok how can i do a major reinstall to gnome...with everything repaired
[08:59] <darksoul> yes
[08:59] <thoreauputic>  media:/hda1/  <<-- fo you mean /media/hda1  ?
[09:00] <bnD> darksoul: youve tried remounting it?
[09:00] <adriyel> darksoul, sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[09:00] <adriyel> thoreauputic, meh, same dilly.
[09:00] <Seveas> media:/hda1 is kde-stupidness
[09:00] <adriyel> Seveas, all things KDE are stupidness.
[09:00] <OptiPlex> darksoul: you should be able to do something like that with synaptic, just not sure how
[09:00] <thoreauputic> adriyel: *cough* computers are pedantic
[09:00] <pawan> bugger. freezing again.
[09:00] <Seveas> adriyel, even though I agree - this is NOT the place for desktop wars
[09:00] <adriyel> Seveas, #ubuntu-offtopic or....#kde >:)
[09:01] <OptiPlex> thats it :] 
[09:01] <darksoul> my main hdd is not found..
[09:01] <OptiPlex> four more files to download with synaptic, w00t!
[09:01] <darksoul> ......would it help if i restarted?
[09:01] <mustard5> darksoul, I wouldnt just yet
[09:01] <mustard5> darksoul, you need to find out what you have done
[09:01] <olliej> anyone got any ideas as to what would cause dvi to be broken in xorg?
[09:02] <darksoul> ok i got accses to the /folders
[09:02] <OptiPlex> pawan: I hear that P4s freeze on a LOT of OSes, so I doubt the problem is ubuntu
[09:02] <darksoul> my hdd just isint mounted on media or somthing
[09:02] <kcskyl> can anyone tell me how to deactivate my media player that autoruns when i logg in?
[09:02] <kcskyl> thanks
[09:02] <darksoul> what sould i look under?
[09:02] <adriyel> OptiPlex, gee, I wish my P4 would freeze, it seems to fry all the time (lolz)
[09:02] <OptiPlex> if ubuntu were less than world-class, it would've EATEN my imac already
[09:02] <Seveas> kcskyl, system -> prefs -> session
[09:02] <mustard5> darksoul, is that a spare partition for something?
[09:02] <darksoul> i did add a partion yes
[09:02] <OptiPlex> darksoul: what is it ntfs/fat32/ext3?
[09:03] <darksoul> ext3
[09:03] <darksoul> both
[09:03] <adriyel> OptiPlex, actually I purchase AMD, but it had to be said
[09:03] <darksoul> anyway i got / to work
[09:03] <kcskyl> okay
[09:03] <mustard5> darksoul, so its not related to your main linux partition?
[09:03] <adriyel> darksoul, how the crap can it be both?
[09:03] <kcskyl> Seveas, okay
[09:03] <adriyel> ???
[09:03] <darksoul> ..
[09:03] <darksoul> i added a new partion today
[09:03] <OptiPlex> Im too scared to buy a new computer because of P4s..
[09:03] <Seveas> adriyel, i think he means: both are ext3 ;)
[09:03] <kcskyl> Seveas, i'm actually running xubuntu...so it's alittle different
[09:03] <adriyel> OptiPlex, buy AMD
[09:03] <mustard5> darksoul, what is on it?
[09:03] <Seveas> kcskyl, hehe
[09:03] <OptiPlex> ok try this dark: mount -t ext3fs /dev/hda1/ /media/hda1/
[09:03] <OptiPlex> that should work.
[09:03] <darksoul> the problem is the main i guess
[09:03] <adriyel> kcskyl, XFce4, how is it?
[09:04] <Seveas> in that case: I don't know
[09:04] <OptiPlex> if not ext3fs try ext3
[09:04] <darksoul> hda1 is the one i added today
[09:04] <adriyel> why the fsck is he ignoring me?
[09:04] <adriyel> *shrugs*
[09:04] <darksoul> im guessing hda2 is the main..
[09:04] <kcskyl> adriyel, it's awesome...except i'm not that used to it.  It makes my 10 yr old computer seem quite fast
[09:04] <OptiPlex> mmm opteron...
[09:04] <allorder> please what FS must have partition EXT3 ?
[09:04] <Seveas> opteron is nice
[09:04] <OptiPlex> i wanna sparc box for some reason
[09:05] <Seveas> even sun uses opterons
[09:05] <darksoul> all i know is my system is messed up reallllyyy bad atm
[09:05] <governador> g
[09:05] <kcskyl> does anyone here familiar with xubuntu?
[09:05] <mustard5> darksoul, messed up is to vague
[09:05] <kcskyl> is*
[09:05] <darksoul> ok...its shit
[09:05] <darksoul> is that better?
[09:05] <bnD> why isnt xubuntu listed on ubuntu.com where kubuntu and edubuntu are?
[09:05] <mustard5> darksoul, no
[09:05] <OptiPlex> heh mine's like 7 yrs old and it outperforms my sisters 1500-something mhz machine
[09:05] <egon_spengler> kcskyl, What about xubuntu?
[09:05] <NoUse> darksoul can you put the output of `mount` in pastebin?
[09:05] <NoUse> !tell darksoul about pastebin
[09:05] <durt> no - but i run xfce. is xubuntu different from regular ubuntu with xfce?
[09:05] <kcskyl> egon_spengler, i have my media player starting up when i log in, and I want to deactivate that
[09:05] <thoreauputic> allorder: odd question - if you want ext3 you would use it for  / and prbably most other partitions except swap
[09:06] <Uzla> hai semua
[09:06] <Seveas> durt, no
[09:06] <pc22> i wonder my browser cant find java even if its installed already
[09:06] <kcskyl> egon_spengler, do you know how to do this?
[09:06] <darksoul> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4520
[09:06] <egon_spengler> kcskyl, Hang on a sec while I log into xubuntu session
[09:06] <Seveas> pc22, then you did not install it the right way
[09:06] <kcskyl> egon_spengler, hey thanks!
[09:06] <OptiPlex> Seveas: yeah, but I'm kind of a RISC processor n00b. they just seem faster for less clock speed
[09:07] <thoreauputic> Seveas: actually xubuntu adds some different defaults like sylpheed and rox-filer
[09:07] <bnD> is there an faq or something as to what xubuntu is?
[09:07] <NoUse> darksoul does anything show up in /media/hda1?
[09:07] <darksoul> i would reinstall..but i spent all day configuring this..and i just deleted windows for good...so yea this is kinda pissing me off
[09:07] <thoreauputic> bnD: it's basically ubuntu + xfce4
[09:07] <OptiPlex> three more files to download lol
[09:07] <darksoul> yup
[09:07] <bnD> thoreauputic: xfce4 = ?
[09:07] <darksoul> the partion i added today
[09:07] <pc22> Seveas, i just did the synaptic
[09:07] <ekimus> hi, do the ranges 192.168.0.0/24 and 192.168.0.1/24 get routed to each other without having ip forwarding or something similiar activated? i don't think so because private ip ranges aren't forwarded to other subnet's by default...
[09:08] <thoreauputic> bnD:  read httP;//xwinman.org   :)
[09:08] <NoUse> darksoul so where was the stuff you are missing stored?
[09:08] <mustard5> pc22, there is another method
[09:08] <darksoul> hda2
[09:08] <bnD> thoreauputic: thanks :)
[09:08] <Seveas> pc22, then you need to install the browser plugin
[09:08] <thoreauputic> hmm http://xwinman.org
[09:08] <pc22> how?
[09:08] <NoUse> darksoul well mounting hda2 might help
[09:08] <darksoul> and the file hda2 "does not exist"
[09:09] <darksoul> err it was mounted..
[09:09] <mebaran151> how do I get DMIX to run and not hard halt
[09:09] <Seveas> pc22, j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin - Java plugin for mozilla/firefox
[09:09] <Seveas> you need that package
[09:09] <OptiPlex> darksoul: I went through 10 or so reinstalls before I got this box running correctly, dont feel bad if you have to reload
[09:09] <pc22> in console?
[09:09] <mustard5> pc22, yes
[09:09] <darksoul> i went thru about 3 in 2 days
[09:09] <mustard5> pc22, or synaptic
[09:09] <darksoul> dont start with me lol
[09:09] <NoUse> darksoul pastebin 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda'
[09:09] <mustard5> pc22, whichever you like
[09:10] <kcskyl> hey egon_spengler, thanks for doing this
[09:10] <mustard5> pc22, use the search function in synaptic if you are comfortable with synaptic
[09:11] <darksoul> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4521
[09:11] <egon_spengler> kcskyl, On shutdown/logout the XFCE session has checkbox to remember/save desktop state. Quit MediaPlayer, then quit session and ensure save state/session is checked to make it go away
[09:11] <OptiPlex> heh, synaptic is like the bsd ports thing, but alot better
[09:11] <darksoul> please tell me its a mounting problem and not a entire system failer..
[09:11] <egon_spengler> kcskyl, Is labeled save session for further logins
[09:11] <pc22> thanks
[09:12] <OptiPlex> ..but then again, some people like not using a GUI which there is always apt for :] 
[09:12] <derrickw> synaptic is priceless
[09:12] <lancer285> can someone please tell me the best way to batch convert ogg to mp3?
[09:12] <mebaran151> OptiPlex, BSD ports are more awesome
[09:12] <derrickw> it made installing the nvidia-legacy drivers less hellish
[09:12] <kcskyl> egon_spengler, yeah, i actually tried that and it didn't work...
[09:12] <derrickw> lancer - why would you want to do that?
[09:12] <OptiPlex> mounting problem I'm guessing sir.
[09:12] <OptiPlex> and/or madam
[09:12] <Uzla> ajar
[09:12] <egon_spengler> kcskyl, Worked for me
[09:12] <darksoul> Sir
[09:12] <lancer285> derrickw, so I can put my music on my ipod
[09:12] <kcskyl> egon_spengler, i tried it a few times actually, and it the xfmedia would consistently pop up...
[09:12] <NoUse> darksoul what does 'sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /media/hda2' output?
[09:12] <kcskyl> egon_spengler, i can try again
[09:12] <kcskyl> egon_spengler, brb
[09:12] <Seveas> Uzla, this is an english channel
[09:13] <darksoul> mount: mount point /media/hda2 does not exist
[09:13] <darksoul> mount: mount point /media/hda2 does not exist
[09:13] <OptiPlex> heh, more progs I'm sure but I like synaptic a little more
[09:13] <darksoul> NoUse:mount: mount point /media/hda2 does not exist
[09:13] <Seveas> darksoul, sudo mkdir /media/hda2
[09:13] <OptiPlex> lancer285: try getting vorbis-tools
[09:13] <darksoul> now
[09:14] <Hhhhh> hmm, would anybody want to give me a quick comparison of Fedora Core 4 and Ubuntu Breezy?
[09:14] <lancer285> OptiPlex, okay, I'll check into that
[09:14] <darksoul> Seveas: now?
[09:14] <kcskyl> egon_spengler, the media starts, and I get a message saying "there is already a system tray running on this screen".  I'm not sure if this helps
[09:14] <thoreauputic> Hhhhh: never used Fedora, sorry
[09:14] <apes> is LVM recommended?
[09:14] <Seveas> Hhhhh, sure, if you give me a quick compare of an apple and an orange
[09:14] <NoUse> darksoul run the mount command again
[09:14] <dooglus> where's the file which says whether the system clock is stored in UTC or localtime?
[09:14] <Seveas> both are fruit, one ust tastes better
[09:14] <Seveas> which one depends on what you like
[09:14] <darksoul> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /media/hda2: nothing happened
[09:14] <Seveas> darksoul, good
[09:14] <OptiPlex> Hhhhh: FC4 < Hoary
[09:15] <mustard5> darksoul, thats good
[09:15] <Seveas> then it is mounted
[09:15] <Hhhhh> oh, I just want an assessment of strengths/weaknesses
[09:15] <kcskyl> egon_spengler, any ideas?
[09:15] <BlackDalek> what does "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /media/hda2:" mean?
[09:15] <Hhhhh> not a distro war
[09:15] <OptiPlex> well FC3 was... :[
[09:15] <OptiPlex> lol Seveas
[09:15] <egon_spengler> kcskyl, Just a sec
[09:15] <Seveas> Hhhhh, rpm vs apt
[09:15] <DR_K13> lol internets
[09:15] <mustard5> BlackDalek, it means a
[09:15] <Seveas> battle won instantly by Ubuntu
[09:15] <Seveas> add the bad quality of redhat/fedora packages
[09:15] <darksoul> btw when i said i had no mounts in :/media i ment it, i have no dvd-rw, no burner, no hdd, no partion mount, only a floppy disk..
[09:15] <Hhhhh> how is media support in ubuntu? that was lacking a bit in FC4
[09:15] <Seveas> and Ubuntu crushes fedora
[09:15] <derrickw> i've really enjoyed using breezy; i didn't care for hoary so much, but breezy patched up most of the issues i had with it
[09:15] <Seveas> Hhhhh, fairly good
[09:16] <mustard5> BlackDalek, it means as superuser mount the ext3 filesystem on device /dev/hda2 or the directory called /media/hda2
[09:16] <Hhhhh> any must-have tweaks you need to do after ubuntu install?
[09:16] <mustard5> *or = on
[09:16] <OptiPlex> FC4 = will never ever install on my computer       ubuntu = faster than os x and 2 less CD's of install
[09:16] <NoUse> darksoul you messed something up with the way KDE deals with Filesystems
[09:16] <Seveas> you need to go through some hoops to get mp3 working, but that's the same on every distro
[09:16] <thoreauputic> Hhhhh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[09:16] <darksoul> ohhhh sweet..
[09:16] <Seveas> it's a patent thing, not a tachnical problem
[09:16] <darksoul> so then wtf will fix this...lol
[09:16] <OptiPlex> Seveas: didn't RH ship with a broken apache binary or something once?
[09:16] <Seveas> and well documented for Ubuntu :)
[09:16] <NoUse> darksoul I don't use KDE so I don't know
[09:16] <darksoul> ..
[09:16] <Seveas> OptiPlex, they ship with brokenness all over the place
[09:17] <Hhhhh> how about hardware compatibility in breezy?
[09:17] <Seveas> anyway, gotta run
[09:17] <thoreauputic> OptiPlex: a broken gcc , once
[09:17] <darksoul> so if i installed gnome would it fix it
[09:17] <pc22> mustard5, E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[09:17] <NoUse> darksoul I would reinstall the OS
[09:17] <darksoul> what about just gnome..
[09:17] <OptiPlex> Hhhhh: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad for sure :] 
[09:17] <Madpilot> Hhhhh: most hardware should just work
[09:17] <thoreauputic> pc22: so run it
[09:17] <NoUse> darksoul maybe
[09:17] <mustard5> pc22, can you paste the complete output and the command you ran in pastebin plz?
[09:17] <OptiPlex> peace Sev
[09:17] <derrickw> Hhhhh - i havn't had any problems with any of my hardware and i'm still a bit of al inux n00b. dual heads is a bitch to set up, but i think that's pretty much across the board on linux
[09:17] <pc22> thats the complete output
[09:18] <mustard5> pc22, do as it says then :)
[09:18] <Hhhhh> are there any .deb packages with nvidia binaries ready for breezy?
[09:18] <thoreauputic> pc22: put sudo before the comand it recommends
[09:18] <NoUse> !tell Hhhhh about nvidia
[09:18] <lanjelot> Hi folks, is there a way to mount an image cd that came with three files : .img, .ccd and .sub (i know how to do it using windows)
[09:18] <OptiPlex> darksoul: just reload it. it isn't gonna kill ya, IS it?
[09:18] <darksoul> you mean reinstall?
[09:19] <darksoul> yes it is
[09:19] <NoUse> Hhhhh I've found Ubuntu much better than FC4
[09:19] <darksoul> i spent all day getting it running just the way it is now
[09:19] <kcskyl1> egon_spengler, you still there?
[09:19] <darksoul> it took me 9 hours to download counter strike source
[09:19] <mustard5> pc22, is this still related to installing the java-plugin for mozilla?
[09:19] <NoUse> darksoul you seem to have spent all day breaking it
[09:19] <darksoul> theres no way im about to reinstall right now
[09:19] <pc22> yes
[09:19] <egon_spengler> kcskyl, Still here, and looking for xfce4 config hiding place
[09:19] <darksoul> no..no errors came up until now
[09:19] <derrickw> Hhhhh - manually installing the nvidia driver is a pain since it always seems to fail to find the headers for the kernel, but you can use synaptic and grab a few packages, reboot and you've got it. you just have to make sure you get the right packages, and i strongly recommend you reboot the system rather than just restarting the x server
[09:19] <kcskyl1> egon_spengler, awesome
[09:19] <darksoul> i rebooted then this crap happened
[09:20] <lanjelot> is there a way to mount some kind of a clonecd image file ?
[09:20] <thoreauputic> egon_spengler: try ~/.config
[09:20] <OptiPlex> aww cmon darksoul: you wanna format your disk *uses jedi mind trick*
[09:20] <derrickw> but if you google ubuntu instaling nvidia you'll find plenty of walkthrough
[09:20] <mustard5> pc22, so this error came from synaptic?
[09:20] <derrickw> walkthroughs*
[09:20] <darksoul> no..i dont
[09:20] <darksoul> i have gone thru alot of shit today..dealing with rootkit on windows
[09:21] <darksoul> then making a very large decision to delete windows is verrryy hard since im a hardcore gamer
[09:21] <egon_spengler> thoreauputic, Tnx
[09:21] <OptiPlex> darksoul: you, as well as I need to find a wifi hotspot..
[09:21] <dooglus> darksoul: they're not as good as the linux ones yet, are they
[09:21] <darksoul> dooglus: what..
[09:21] <derrickw> darksoul - yeah i just deleted my windows partition finally. i'm not much of a gamer, but i did enjoy ragnarok, and unfortunately WINE doesn't emulate it too smoothly =(
[09:21] <egon_spengler> kcskyl, Try rm -rf .config and log back in.
[09:21] <dooglus> the rootkits
[09:22] <polpak> darksoul: I feel your pain.. I gave up windows 3 months ago.. Only thing I used it for was games. They're the only thing I miss also
[09:22] <l33txp> ok guys.. I have installed Ubuntu and it's all updated!! Now it's time to learn Linux and all about the OS.
[09:22] <lancer285> can anyone tell me how to make lame encode a whole directory of .wav to mp3?
[09:22] <apes> darksoul, you can use cedega for gaming on Linux
[09:22] <darksoul> derrickw: im on a computer 24/7 im a VERY hardcore gamer...this is not fun now couse i have to put up with this shit
[09:22] <polpak> leetxp: read the getting started guide
[09:22] <l33txp> Ok.
[09:22] <darksoul> apes: yes i could, but it wouldent work well, i only have 384mb ram on this thing, and a 1.4ghz prosseser
[09:23] <dooglus> lancer285: how do you make it encode one file?
[09:23] <l33txp> polpak, where is that? on the website?
[09:23] <lancer285> darksoul, My games run faster w/ Cedega than they did in windows
[09:23] <kcskyl1> egon_spengler, oh okay.
[09:23] <kcskyl1> egon_spengler, brb
[09:23] <apes> doesnt sound like it would work wel even in windws!
[09:23] <darksoul> apes: on my other computer i have a amd 64 or whatever 3.0, and 1024mb ram, BUT GUI WONT WORK
[09:23] <DR_K13> what games where you playing?  pong?
[09:23] <OptiPlex> heh, I miss a lot of games on win, ifortunately some of them are available for os x so Ill have to backup and reinstall 2 OSes heh
[09:23] <polpak> leetxp: no, click the help button on your taskbar
[09:23] <lancer285> dooglus, lame sound.wav sound.mp3
[09:23] <polpak> l33txp: it looks like a life preserve
[09:23] <OptiPlex> darksoul: ONLY 1.4ghz? lol
[09:23] <darksoul> lancer285: im not about to pay for somthing like that, then pay 500$ a year on games...no thanks
[09:24] <OptiPlex> I have 400mhz on this thing, and I use it for graphics heh
[09:24] <Hhhhh> derrickw, how often are nvidia binaries updated for breezy?
[09:24] <dooglus> lancer285: so:  for i in *.wav; do lame "$i" "$(echo "$i" | sed 's/.wav$/.mp3/'); done
[09:24] <l33txp> Got it!! Thanks.. yeah I'll need it. LoL I have NEVER used linux before at least at any length of time..
[09:24] <darksoul> optiPlex: hey i got a awsome computer right next to mine, but windows wont run on it and GUI on liunx wont run on it...why i still dont know
[09:24] <lancer285> darksoul, its worth the $5 a month. Total support and it runs all my stuff. if ur converting to linux. then that's the way to go
[09:24] <egon_spengler> OptiPlex, 400MHz for the video card?
[09:24] <viyyer> Whom should I contact for discussing about Rosetta  licensing issues?
[09:24] <dooglus> lancer285: I missed a close quote:
[09:24] <l33txp> But.. it's time for bed.. LoL Got 3:30am and work starts @ 8am...
[09:24] <dooglus> lancer285: so:  for i in *.wav; do lame "$i" "$(echo "$i" | sed 's/.wav$/.mp3/')"; done
[09:24] <l33txp> I'm sure I will become a regular n00b in here so... thanks for being here to help!! later!
[09:25] <durt> l33txp: i can still get 2 hrs of sleep though!
[09:25] <derrickw> Hhhhh - that i don't know. i just switched to breezy recently
[09:25] <mustard5> dooglus, you got a talent there ;)
[09:25] <l33txp> hehe..
[09:25] <darksoul> lancer285: do you know why the gui wont work on my other computer (amd) like (kde, gnome) it always seems to get stuck on complieing, and btw ceadga i might get..when my mom finds her debit card lol
[09:25] <polpak> darksoul: sorry, I missed what the problem is..
[09:25] <OptiPlex> omfg, mail it to me :] 
[09:25] <DR_K13> thats what coffee is for
[09:25] <derrickw> cadega is $5 a month?
[09:25] <polpak> derrickw yes
[09:25] <OptiPlex> heh hell no, 400mhz PPC. these things PWN intel :] 
[09:25] <darksoul> polpak: im missing everything accept floppy in media, and i have no control over shit really in kubuntu...im going to try gnome and see what happens
[09:26] <lancer285> dooglus, sorry, I don't follow. I was trying lame ./*.wav *.mp3 but that didn't work.
[09:26] <durt> derrickw: or you can steal it...
[09:26] <dooglus> lancer285: copy and paste:
[09:26] <kcskyl1> egon_spengler, awesome!  thanks!
[09:26] <lancer285> darksoul, what gui? KDE? Are you running 64 bit processor?
[09:26] <dooglus> lancer285:    for i in *.wav; do lame "$i" "$(echo "$i" | sed 's/.wav$/.mp3/')"; done
[09:26] <DR_K13> zuh
[09:26] <egon_spengler> kcskyl, Glad to assist but thoreauputic offered the location for the solution
[09:26] <lancer285> dooglus, woa, cool
[09:26] <darksoul> lancer285: the one were the gui wont work is running a SUPPOSEDLY 64bit..but i have heard the cpu doesnt have any 64bit extentions..but it says it
[09:26] <derrickw> durt - i'm not sure i want to steal it unless doing so is extremely convenient
[09:26] <darksoul> lancer285: and gnome and kde wont work on it
[09:26] <kcskyl1> thoreauputic, thanks for your input ;)
[09:27] <lancer285> darksoul, what sort of error messages are you getting?
[09:27] <polpak> darksoul: what is it you're worrying about losing if you format and install standard ubuntu?
[09:27] <thoreauputic> egon_spengler: kcskyl  Open source collaboration *grin*
[09:27] <darksoul> polpak: 9 hours redownloading just counter strike source for one
[09:27] <lancer285> dooglus, can I copy that into a #bash script and just run it??
[09:28] <darksoul> lancer285: none, it just goes over the same compling for hours and never ends
[09:28] <egon_spengler> thoreauputic, Would you believe I started with XFCE because it so closely resembled CDE?
[09:28] <durt> derrickw: oh, bittorrent makes it extremely convenient - but of course you shouldnt do that
[09:28] <thoreauputic> lancer285: you can run it as is in a terminal
[09:28] <OptiPlex> darksoul: maybe you need the amd64 version of ubuntu, I dunno
[09:28] <OptiPlex> darksoul: counterstrike is EVIL!
[09:28] <lancer285> thoreauputic, I did that. I was hoping to make it easy to run (:
[09:28] <DR_K13> cs is lame'
[09:28] <lancer285> I'll just keep it in my 'notes' file to copy and paste
[09:28] <darksoul> Optiplex: yes...but i own a few zombie servers so meh
[09:28] <DR_K13> BF2 is coo
[09:28] <lancer285> darksoul, so it won't install??
[09:28] <polpak> darksoul: where did you install cs source?
[09:29] <darksoul> polpak: i download wine then ran steam and installed counterstrike source off steam
[09:29] <lancer285> darksoul, or are you talking about Point2Play?? not KDE itself
[09:29] <thoreauputic> lancer285: you can make it a script by prepending #!/bin/bash and saving it, then making it executable
[09:29] <darksoul> lancer285: im talking about the entire gui of linux
[09:29] <polpak> darksoul: Then I must assume you installed to your home directory
[09:29] <lancer285> thoreauputic, awesome, thats what I was looking for
[09:29] <darksoul> lancer285: it wouldent run on suse either
[09:29] <OptiPlex> :[
[09:30] <darksoul> polpak: yea...whatever lol
[09:30] <teenz> what exactly is wine and where can i get it?
[09:30] <polpak> darksoul: is your home directory on its own partition?
[09:30] <derrickw> durt - haha yeah, i see
[09:30] <darksoul> polpak: no
[09:30] <polpak> darksoul: do you have gparted installed?
[09:30] <thoreauputic> lancer285: #!/bin/bash goes on th efirst line ( separate line) of course
[09:30] <derrickw> durt - i'm not sure where i'd find a torrent file for cadega though
[09:30] <lancer285> darksoul, I wish I could help. I would say that you need to make sure you have the right architect for your processor.
[09:30] <wal>  i was wondering how to uninstall the kde desktop - seeing kubuntu-desktop is only a metapackage
[09:30] <darksoul> polpak: yes
[09:30] <dooglus> lancer285: you can run that directly from the command line if you like
[09:30] <OptiPlex> darksoul: so... suse OR ubuntu wont run a GUI on your 64bit box at ALL?
[09:30] <dooglus> lancer285: or you can make an alias or shell function from it
[09:31] <darksoul> lancer285: i tried 64bit ubuntu and the x86 or whatever it was for ubuntu..funny thing is with i386 servero only mode works..but it wont complie the gui
[09:31] <OptiPlex> teenz: check synaptic
[09:31] <lancer285> dooglus, I have no idea how to do that (:
[09:31] <teenz> ok
[09:31] <darksoul> OptiPlex: suse managed it on one install..but i hated the way suse was so i uninstalled it
[09:31] <icewt> teenz: wine allows you to run windows programs on linux. you can get it from ubuntu repositories, or if you want the latest version go to http://winehq.com
[09:31] <dooglus> lancer285: I'll make a pastebin for it.  Would you prefer a recursive version?
[09:32] <thoreauputic> wal: kubuntu-desktop pulls in most of KDE - if you want more you install the "kde" package afterwards
[09:32] <lancer285> dooglus, yes plz (:
[09:32] <lanjelot> i want to convert clonecd image file into an iso one. Any ideas fellows ?
[09:32] <thoreauputic> wal: ah sorry - I misread
[09:32] <lancer285> darksoul, and you didn't do a clean install?? how did you set up partitions when you installed?
[09:32] <OptiPlex> heh, suse is kewl for some stuff
[09:33] <polpak> darksoul: I suggest using gparted to resize your partitions such that you have a new partition where you can put your /home directory
[09:33] <thoreauputic> wal: uninstalling kdelibs would tear out most of KDE I would guess
[09:33] <darksoul> OptiPlex: i havent tired the ubuntu install yet..but i dont think it will work
[09:33] <lancer285> <-- loves ubuntu
[09:33] <bun-bun> does scp require ssh server to be running on both machines?
[09:33] <darksoul> lancer285: i used gparted
[09:33] <polpak> darksoul: then when you reinstall you can mount it as your /home and not reformat it
[09:33] <Drelives> hi everyone
[09:33] <OptiPlex> it comes with audacity, freecraft, and CD-burning stuff, so its good for a basic home PC, but I don't have all FIVE cds for PPC so I chose ubuntu and Im diggin it :] 
[09:33] <polpak> darksoul: all your files should be in there then
[09:33] <teenz> icewt : thank you ill check it out
[09:33] <thoreauputic> wal: hmm that's a metapackage as well, sorry
[09:33] <darksoul> polpak: yea.....unless the entire problem is in the home dir
[09:33] <Drelives> i'm looking for the temporary internet files folder in my ubuntu os
[09:33] <lcore> I'm using ubuntu 5.10 + evolution 2.4.1 and afaik there's no spam filter support yet (btns spam and no-spam).  Been googling for a guide on howto setup some spam filter but didn't found any good one. Any easy to use (maybe combined with evolution interface) solutions (uri is enough)?
[09:34] <Drelives> do you know where is it?
[09:34] <darksoul> in a few ill try gnome
[09:34] <polpak> darksoul: have you tried creating a new user and seeing if the problem persists there?
[09:34] <apes> Drelives, i have mine  set to /tmp in Firefox
[09:34] <OptiPlex> give it a shot, I didnt think freebsd would work on my old PII but it did.. take a chance :] 
[09:34] <darksoul> polpak: no.............wtf i sould have thought of that.
[09:34] <Drelives> so it's set in the browser?
[09:34] <OptiPlex> use gmail and set up evolution to forward your mail :] 
[09:35] <darksoul> polpak: meh i want to try gnome anyway lol..but ill try what you said
[09:35] <polpak> darksoul: I personally prefer gnome
[09:35] <wal> thoreauputic, thanks for your help
[09:35] <polpak> darksoul: but to each his own
[09:35] <darksoul> polpak: why?
[09:35] <polpak> darksoul: it's not built off of QT
[09:35] <darksoul> polpak: QT?
[09:35] <Drelives> ehm, i need another info, can u pls tell me how can i search a file in my ubuntu os???
[09:36] <OptiPlex> gnome is kewl
[09:36] <darksoul> Drelives: systimatic package manager
[09:36] <Drelives> what?
[09:36] <Drelives> r u talkin bout synaptic?
[09:36] <OptiPlex> I dont think this computer could handle all the visual effects that I like in KDE so Ill stick to gnome lol
[09:36] <darksoul> polpak: whats a QT, and why else do you like gnome?
[09:36] <foxgamer> Hi all.
[09:37] <OptiPlex> synaptic *slaps darksoul
[09:37] <foxgamer> Has anyone managed to get their ATI card working with the 64bit version of ubuntu? I'ts driving me mad!
[09:37] <darksoul> yea well its not installed here
[09:37] <lancer285> dammit I just wish Ipods played .OGG
[09:37] <darksoul> so i cant spell it right lol
[09:37] <OptiPlex> :] 
[09:37] <derrickw> holy balls! while i was looking for a torrent for cadega, i found a wicked linux version of Creatures
[09:37] <derrickw> i miss that game
[09:37] <polpak> QT is the widget lib that KDE is built off of.  I think GTK (the widget lib gnome is built on ) has a cleaner programming interface
[09:37] <Drelives> maybe i din explain well.....i need to find a file into the computer
[09:37] <OptiPlex> QT is like GTK for KDE
[09:37] <OptiPlex> and its LEET :] 
[09:37] <OptiPlex> hi
[09:37] <Drelives> i dun need an external packet
[09:38] <polpak> darksoul: I do some GUI programming, and GTK fits my needs better
[09:38] <darksoul> QptiPlex: yea you can run kde.. on my 98mb ram computer and 400mhz it could run freekin suse 9.2pro in kde, and then ubuntu server only mode. it could run 4 bots, 4 people or 8 people without bots..
[09:38] <OptiPlex> :[
[09:38] <polpak> Drelives: Try locate "filename"
[09:38] <OptiPlex> ok Drelives, if youre in GNOME go to Places, Search for files :] 
[09:39] <polpak> Drelives: or do what Opti said
[09:39] <thoreauputic> Drelives: try the gnome search program - it's in the menu
[09:39] <Drelives> uh
[09:39] <Drelives> ok
[09:39] <Drelives> ty
[09:39] <Drelives> i'll try
[09:39] <polpak> Drelives: I'm just so used to using terminals
[09:39] <Drelives> thx vry much
[09:39] <OptiPlex> heh darksoul, this is ppc
[09:39] <durt> drelives: man locate
[09:39] <dooglus> lancer285: copy and paste the whole of http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4522 into your .bashrc
[09:39] <OptiPlex> with 384m of ram
[09:39] <OptiPlex> and I still dont trust it to run kde efficiently :] 
[09:40] <durt> 3:40am - seriously bedtime
[09:40] <dooglus> lancer285: then in any new shell you start, you'll be able to just type "wav2mp3" to convert wavs to mp3s recursively
[09:41] <OptiPlex> mp3 support owns
[09:41] <darksoul> wow
[09:41] <lancer285> dooglus, awesome! I don't need the line numbers right??
[09:41] <darksoul> gnome fixed my entire problem
[09:41] <darksoul> hurray gnome!
[09:41] <OptiPlex> i had no idea how to fix synaptic then I removed the CD rep. gpg key and downloaded ONE file and it works now lol
[09:41] <darksoul> *bows*
[09:42] <lancer285> darksoul, shouldnt it by horray gnome?
[09:42] <Drelives> lol, i tried "locate / *.swf" but it started listing a lot of filese...maybe every file in the hd
[09:42] <Drelives> some tips???
[09:42] <local_> hello, everybody, during the install of ubuntu he never ask me for a root password and now i can't connect to my computer
[09:42] <local_> whats wrong
[09:42] <darksoul> lancer285: shutup its 1 am here
[09:42] <dooglus> lancer285: no, you don't want the numbers
[09:42] <lancer285> darksoul, lol (:
[09:42] <OptiPlex> WOOT!
[09:42] <polpak> Drelives: don't use the /
[09:42] <lancer285> dooglus, that's what I thought. thanks !!
[09:42] <thoreauputic> Drelives: no space between * and .swf
[09:42] <Drelives> there was no space
[09:42] <Drelives> and
[09:43] <Drelives> i also tried locate *.swf
[09:43] <darksoul> quick question, some apps didint install with gnome, how do i get them?
[09:43] <Drelives> but it didn't work
[09:43] <polpak> local_: you don't need a root password
[09:43] <polpak> darksoul: synaptic
[09:43] <lancer285> dooglus, this is my only option. I ripped all my cds, then my car got stolen and I lost them all. These .ogg rips are all I have now
[09:43] <local_> polpak, what ?? there is no root account on ubuntu ???
[09:43] <derrickw> local - ubuntu doesn't really use a root login. the user you create when you install is an admin; you can use that password where root is required.
[09:43] <darksoul> matter of fact..it looks like no gnome things installed...if i just got gnome-desktop what else do i need
[09:43] <thoreauputic> Drelives: first run  sudo updatedb
[09:44] <derrickw> you'll just use the command 'sudo' to do things as root
[09:44] <Drelives> thoreauputic, ok, i try
[09:44] <darksoul> polpak: i want everything that comes with gnome built in, if i just did gnome-desktop what else do i need?
[09:44] <thoreauputic> Drelives: locate needs an up to date database
[09:44] <thoreauputic> Drelives: takes a while for that comand to run
[09:44] <Drelives> i have time
[09:44] <Drelives> :D
[09:45] <local_> but i can't use apt-get install with this account, i don't have rights to open  /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[09:45] <polpak> darksoul: I really don't know....
[09:45] <thoreauputic> darksoul: erm - try  ubuntu-desktop
[09:45] <mustard5> local_, close synaptic?
[09:45] <derrickw> although i actually enabled root in ubuntu because sometimes sudo'ing everything is a pain and being able to log in as root for directory management is nice
[09:45] <darksoul> i did
[09:45] <polpak> local_: use sudo apt-get install
[09:45] <th3flawl3ss1> i got a quick question about installing programs
[09:45] <darksoul> polpak: i dont have synaptic
[09:45] <apes> derrickw, no ROOT account is necessary
[09:45] <apes> just use sudo -s
[09:45] <derrickw> apes - it's nice to have
[09:45] <polpak> darksoul: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[09:46] <apes> derrickw, sudo -s is the same thing
[09:46] <lancer285> okay, now that I have my ogg conversion problem going, anyone wanna help me rip my DVDs to Mpeg4??
[09:46] <darksoul> thanks
[09:46] <apes> never create the root acount, gor security reasons
[09:46] <HaNazir> spliy?
[09:46] <darksoul> gnome isint to bad...kde was way to much like windows
[09:47] <polpak> darksoul: at some point you should really consider reinstalling the core CD so you won't run into any oddities
[09:47] <darksoul> it remined me of windows to..3 reinstalls in 2 days...so many crashes
[09:47] <darksoul> what core cd?
[09:47] <darksoul> you mean ubuntu cd isntall not kubuntu? i dont want to download another iso
[09:47] <OptiPlex> heh gnome looks more like win to me than kde
[09:47] <polpak> darksoul: the normal ubuntu install cd
[09:47] <apes> lancer285, use DVD::Rip
[09:47] <HaNazir> i forgot the root account passord and all account passwords, how do i reset the passwords?
[09:47] <Drelives> uhm, i found more, but i didn't find the file i was looking for yet, is there an option to search in hidden or system folders?
[09:47] <darksoul> polpak: i only got the kubuntu one lol
[09:48] <lancer285> apes, I'm having problems making go straight into mpg. it wants to use .avi
[09:48] <OptiPlex> heh kde/suse 8.2 reminds me of win too.. unstable as hell
[09:48] <polpak> darksoul: just start downloading the normal one, and leave it overnight
[09:48] <thoreauputic> Drelives: do you have any idea where what you want is located?
[09:48] <apes> Drelives, use find / -iname myfile.txt
[09:48] <OptiPlex> bbl lol
[09:48] <derrickw> yeah i ran suse for about an hour and i switched. it sucked.
[09:48] <derrickw> it was pretty but it wasn't very stable
[09:48] <apes> lancer285, you just said mpeg4!
[09:48] <Drelives> thoreauputic, no i don't have any idea, it's a temporary file, called di.swf, but it seems to be hiden
[09:49] <darksoul> polpak: why what does it have that kubuntu doesnt..besides kde and gnome..
[09:49] <lancer285> apes, it has an .avi extension? I thought it was m4v
[09:49] <thoreauputic> Drelives: if it's temporary it might be in /tmp  :)
[09:49] <apes> lancer285, all DVD discs are already MPEG2
[09:49] <nameless12> i installed the server version of ubuntu, i setup a few server things ftp and such. i then tried to install fluxbox but it did not install X and i need to startx... what do i apt-get to get it working properly
[09:49] <polpak> darksoul: nothing.. I'm sure if you knew how to do it you could configure the system to be identical to the standard Ubuntu install, but I don't know how, and you probably don't want to be bothered trying to do it
[09:49] <lancer285> apes, I'm wanting to rip them so I can play them on my new Ipod. (:
[09:50] <Hhhhh> how good is 64-bit support in ubuntu?
[09:50] <apes> lancer285, yeah i dont know what format it suppports
[09:50] <polpak> darksoul: so I recommend (particularly if you run into situations where stuff isn't working right, or you can't find what you're looking for) installing standard ubuntu
[09:50] <Drelives> thoreauputic, i already tried to search inside there, but i couldn't see anything....maybe it's like the content.ie5 folder in win32 os, you can't see it if you don't know how to spell it
[09:50] <darksoul> polpak: thats why i got linux...so i can configure it unlike windows..
[09:50] <thoreauputic> Hhhhh: how long is a piece odf string ?
[09:50] <th3flawl3ss1> does anybody know of a noob friendly way to install wine
[09:50] <darksoul> polpak: btw are there any real viruses out for linux yet?
[09:51] <polpak> th3flawl3ssl: buy cedega?
[09:51] <Hhhhh> thoreauputic: a string?
[09:51] <apes> darksoul, never
[09:51] <th3flawl3ss1> cedega?
[09:51] <gigcs> i try signatrue package ubuntu
[09:51] <thoreauputic> Drelives: possible - /tmp sometimes has cryptic stuff in it
[09:51] <gigcs> HowTo signature package
[09:51] <lancer285> apes, maybe I'll do a web how-to when I figure it out (:
[09:51] <thoreauputic> Hhhhh: "How good is"  X is kind of meaningless, don't you think ?
[09:51] <Drelives> thoreauputic, and....how to see it? :D
[09:51] <derrickw> yeah WINE isn't a very stable emulator. it's fine for small programs, useless for directx though
[09:52] <darksoul> apes: if you truly think that then i feel sorry for you, somone who uses linux will release a virus at a point, no system is safe from hackers. *sigh* i wish it was true lol
[09:52] <gigcs> I have question????
[09:52] <polpak> darksoul: there are worms that can compromise certain daemons.. But those are mostly out of date servers. If you keep up to date with your security updates and manage your firewalls right it's hard to get infected with anything
[09:52] <Hhhhh> thoreauputic, I meant to ask how well it is working, like for example, is flash working well in breezy 64-bit?
[09:52] <th3flawl3ss1> ok, i need to run the macromedia suite so im guessin thats not the greatest
[09:52] <darksoul> polpak: sould i install the firewall?
[09:52] <thoreauputic> Drelives: well, if /tmp isn't too full of files, trial and error I guess
[09:52] <polpak> derrickw: actually, the directx support is making great strides
[09:52] <onkarshinde> All the pacakge lists on my machine will be deleted on every reboot. Has anyone else faced this?
[09:52] <Hhhhh> thoreauputic, I'm trying to evaluate against other distros
[09:52] <derrickw> polpak - it's still poor
[09:52] <apes> darksoul, linux is secure by default -- unless you mung it up yourself
[09:52] <polpak> darksoul: use synaptic to get "Firestarter"
[09:52] <thoreauputic> Hhhhh: issues with flash and java etc
[09:52] <lancer285> derrickw, I have a buddy on Warcraft that's using Wine (not cedega) to play it
[09:53] <polpak> darksoul: it makes managing your firewall very easy
[09:53] <thoreauputic> Hhhhh: and of course win 32  codecs
[09:53] <apes> darksoul, viruses on linux are pretty much useless, because they wpmt have root privs
[09:53] <darksoul> apes: somone will hack it at some point --never think that its inpossible...but its VERY hard.. lol
[09:53] <Hhhhh> thoreauputic, are there work arounds?
[09:53] <Drelives> thoreauputic, ok....let's put to work....i'll come back to annoy you guys later....ghghgh
[09:53] <polpak> darksoul: linux has a built in firewall, you just have to configure it properly.
[09:53] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: Can you help me with my one particular problem?
[09:53] <darksoul> polpak: were?
[09:53] <derrickw> lancer285 - i don't know, i tried to play fallout 2 in wine and it runs like hell.
[09:53] <polpak> darksoul: where what?
[09:53] <apes> darksoul, there have been worms in server software, but no viruses in recent history
[09:53] <theoddbo1> i tried to play fallout2 in vmware it sucked there too :)
[09:54] <thoreauputic> Hhhhh: I don't run 64 bit, but I believe the method involves a 32 bit chroot
[09:54] <lancer285> derrickw, Yah I don't know. that's just what he said. I use wine for my script writing software, and it runs great.
[09:54] <darksoul> apes: it prob wont happen. im just not overuling the possiblity
[09:54] <foxgamer> I am having a problem with ubuntu. Can anyone spare some time to help?
[09:54] <gigcs> i sign packageS HowTo.
[09:54] <darksoul> polpak: this "built in" firewall
[09:54] <derrickw> lancer285 - yes, but the prolem is the directx support, hence fallout not running well
[09:54] <polpak> foxgamer: just ask your question
[09:54] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: try disabling daily updates in synaptic
[09:54] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: if it's what I think it is
[09:54] <polpak> darksoul: it can be controlled via commandline using the iptables command
[09:54] <th3flawl3ss1> so how do i install wine or cedega?
[09:55] <lancer285> derrickw, yah, makes sense .
[09:55] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: I never enabled it.
[09:55] <polpak> darksoul: but I suggest using Firestarter to make it much easier
[09:55] <darksoul> polpak: i got a freekin 8mb download connection, and no matter what i do, no matter were, its slower then 1mb
[09:55] <lancer285> th3flawl3ss1, check out transgaming.com
[09:55] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: it's eneabled by default :)
[09:55] <foxgamer> Thank you polpak :) I have been trying for several days and have scrutinised the forums to get my ati graphics card working with 64bit ubuntu. Has anyone managed this yet?
[09:55] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: turn it off
[09:55] <onkarshinde> Synaptic gives me error 'Could not stat something' on every reboot. It happens only for universe and multiverse.
[09:55] <polpak> th3flawl3ssl: cedega is subscription based software available from transgaming.com
[09:56] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: only those repos? That sounds different then
[09:56] <darksoul> polpak: well they need money...we need the real companys that are rising for linux..
[09:56] <lancer285> is there a way to globally edit an ID tag of a bunch of mp3s?
[09:56] <polpak> foxgamer: I use ATI, but not 64bit ubuntu.. sorry I can't be of more help
[09:56] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: I know someone who has faced this problem before. But he is not logged in.
[09:56] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: I had an issue where anacron tried to access th e network with apt even when I wasn't connected
[09:56] <gigcs> Please answer.
[09:57] <foxgamer> Setting it up on 32bit was easy enough. I didn't have a problem. But with 64bit? It seems impossible!
[09:57] <polpak> darksoul: I wasn't complaining about paying. I was just pointing him to the appropriate location
[09:57] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: result - the error you describe
[09:57] <darksoul> polpak: i know...im just wondering why so little people make games in linux...
[09:57] <lancer285> darksoul, cause according to M$ linux isn't ready for the desktop
[09:58] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: Do you mean I have to stop anacron? And why the hell it is doing that?
[09:58] <Hopelessness> darksoul: Because there's not too much money to be made in it?
[09:58] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: no, i mean you have to sop synaptic auto updating
[09:58] <thoreauputic> *stop
[09:58] <darksoul> lancer285: right now its not ready for games..it IS ready for the desktop.
[09:58] <polpak> darksoul: lots of reasons, but none of them terribly good.
[09:58] <darksoul> personaly i think linux sould make its own code like direct 3d....
[09:58] <lancer285> darksoul, my games run faster in linux than they do in windows. Better fps, they load faster, etc
[09:59] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: butthat's assuming your problem is the same as the one I debugged here
[09:59] <polpak> darksoul: nah.. openGL is sufficient
[09:59] <Madpilot> darksoul: OpenGL works just fine...
[09:59] <darksoul> since linux is not based on m$ at all...
[09:59] <polpak> darksoul: but wine is working to get a d3d api working under linux
[09:59] <apes> how to turn off system beeping?  bell-style none in .bashrc does not work
[09:59] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: I will try. Not at home currently.
[09:59] <thoreauputic> apes:  xset b off
[09:59] <apes> thoreauputic, in .bashrc ?
[10:00] <thoreauputic> apes: or set it in gnome - under sounds IIRC
[10:00] <thoreauputic> apes:  I just type it in the terminal :)
[10:00] <apes> thoreauputic, but does it get saved?
[10:01] <thoreauputic> apes: not that way, no
[10:01] <darksoul> i installed this virus scanner..were is it
[10:01] <apes> thoreauputic, using the GUI tool worked -- but nice to know when i dont have a GUI
[10:01] <thoreauputic> apes: I guess you can put it in .bashrc
[10:01] <gigcs> i want gpg into package
[10:01] <BlackDalek> i don't get it.
[10:01] <polpak> darksoul: virus scanner?
[10:01] <darksoul> A virus scanner for Linux/Unix systems
[10:01] <darksoul> Aegis is a virus scanner for Linux/Unix systems with a simple and intuitive
[10:01] <darksoul> user interface.
[10:01] <thoreauputic> apes: doesn't work in tty - for that you need to use setterm
[10:01] <darksoul> so do i just type in Aegis in terminal
[10:02] <polpak> darksoul: try looking under the system menu?
[10:02] <BlackDalek> everytime I try to install ubuntu I get - problem installing software. one or more packages failed to install etc....
[10:02] <polpak> darksoul: I'm not sure, I've never used it.. Or heard of it for that matter.
[10:02] <darksoul> polpak: yup not there
[10:03] <polpak> darksoul: applications->system tools?
[10:03] <darksoul> polpak: its not anywere on menus
[10:03] <BlackDalek> then I select OK to continue and I get Ubuntu 5.10 "breezy badger" ubuntu tty1. ubuntu login:
[10:03] <thoreauputic> apes: see here >>  http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_NoBeep
[10:04] <thoreauputic> apes: gentoo wiki can be useful too ;-)
[10:04] <HaNazir> how do i reset my passwords if i'm locked out of my accounts
[10:04] <darksoul> !aegis
[10:04] <ubotu> darksoul: I haven't a clue
[10:04] <mr-russ> HaNazir: how locked out?
[10:04] <BlackDalek> everytime I try to install ubuntu I get - problem installing software. one or more packages failed to install etc.... then I select OK to continue and I get Ubuntu 5.10 "breezy badger" ubuntu tty1. ubuntu login:... after I login I end up with a sort of command prompt myname@ubuntu:~$ What am I doing wrong?
[10:04] <darksoul> polpak: i just uninstalled it lol
[10:05] <mr-russ> HaNazir: boot from cd, mount you hdd partition, chroot to it.  passwd myuserwithforgottenpassword
[10:05] <thoreauputic> BlackDalek: sounds like maybe a bad disc
[10:05] <polpak> darksoul: you can use dpkg-query -L pkgname
[10:05] <polpak> darksoul: to show you what files a given package installs
[10:05] <darksoul> polpak: whats your fav program?
[10:06] <polpak> darksoul: for what?
[10:06] <BlackDalek> thoreauputic: what? the hard disk bad or the install CD bad?
[10:06] <thoreauputic> BlackDalek: install disc
[10:06] <darksoul> polpak: gnome/linux
[10:06] <polpak> darksoul: depends on what I want to do
[10:06] <polpak> darksoul: my favorite text editor is jedit
[10:06] <darksoul> polpak: your game
[10:07] <thoreauputic> BlackDalek: or possibly X can't be configured in which case you would run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know where the real keymap files are for gnome?
[10:07] <polpak> darksoul: NWN is probably the only game I really play much of anymore
[10:07] <darksoul> polpak: what?
[10:07] <fatehaze> i'm installing on a powerbook, but i get an error during the base files installation
[10:07] <polpak> darksoul: NeverWinter Nights
[10:07] <BlackDalek> thoreauputic: the Hard disk is only 3Gb in size... does the default ubuntu installation even fit of my hard disk? I thought it said 2Gb was enough...
[10:07] <darksoul> polpak: and is there anything like FlashMX on here?
[10:07] <darksoul> polpak: ah
[10:08] <polpak> darksoul: a flash-player you mean?
[10:08] <thoreauputic> BlackDalek:  yes 3GB is enough
[10:08] <darksoul> polpak: no a flash maker
[10:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> can anyone explain to me why reinstalling breezy from disc fixed tons of problems that upgrading from hoary caused?
[10:08] <thoreauputic> BlackDalek: the default install is aroun 1.8 or 1.9 GB
[10:08] <polpak> darksoul: I don't think so.. Macromedia controlls the rights to the format, and nobody has bothered to violate their patent.
[10:09] <darksoul> BROKEN_LADDER: well for one...it recomplies it right
[10:09] <fatehaze> the installation of the base system fails at about 67%
[10:09] <mustard5> fatehaze, does it give an error message?
[10:09] <derrickw> i think i'm going to try to run warcraft iii under wine
[10:09] <derrickw> just for kicks
[10:09] <BROKEN_LADDER> darksoul recompiles?  no.
[10:09] <fatehaze> yeah, i forgot it :P  i'm reinstalling now, I'll have it in a sec
[10:09] <polpak> derrickw: warcraft 3 works great
[10:09] <darksoul> BROKEN_LADDER: yes...and it also has new core files to my understanding..
[10:09] <polpak> derrickw: that's the other game I play
[10:10] <BlackDalek> is there anyway for me to resume the installation process or do I have to reformat and start from scratch again?
[10:10] <derrickw> polpak - can i use your cd key? i don't know where mine is
[10:10] <darksoul> BROKEN_LADDER: oh and it also deletes anything that will cause tons of problems
[10:10] <thoreauputic> BROKEN_LADDER: I'm guessing when you upgraded you didn't have ubuntu-desktop or maybe ubuntu-base installed on your old system
[10:10] <polpak> derrickw: ... I use mine for online play. Can't give it away
[10:11] <derrickw> polpak - well i wasn't planning on playing online, but fine
[10:11] <HaNazir> mr-russ: how would i mount it? mount /dev/hda?
[10:11] <apes> installed Ubuntu -- sound worked on first boot -- no changes -- now fails!!!
[10:12] <BlackDalek> is there anyway for me to resume the ubuntu installation process or do I have to reformat and start from scratch again?
[10:12] <polpak> darksoul: did you install firestarter?
[10:12] <thoreauputic> apes: check all your volume controls
[10:12] <darksoul> polpak: yes
[10:12] <apes> thoreauputic, yeah
[10:12] <thoreauputic> apes: alsamixer or use the GUI and check to see all the channels
[10:12] <BlackDalek> it seems there are not enough hours in a day to install ubuntu.
[10:12] <polpak> BlackDalek: I would certainly advise formatting and installing again incase something was corrupt. Possibly try redownloading and burning the CD also
[10:13] <mr-russ> HaNazir: still there?
[10:13] <thoreauputic> BlackDalek: make sure the md5sum is right for your ISO
[10:13] <darksoul> polpak: what makes linux not boring after awhile..couse im on my computer almost 24/7
[10:13] <apes> thoreauputic, yep all mixers on
[10:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> thoreauputic of course i had those installed.  how would it work if i didn't?
[10:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> darksoul so why weren't those things upgraded in apt-get dist-upgrade?
[10:14] <mr-russ> HaNazir: how did you format your hdd when you installed ubuntu?
[10:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> and where the hell are the keymap files in breezy?
[10:14] <mustard5> apes, what are you using to test the sound?
[10:14] <polpak> darksoul: learn to write programs, and then make your own games =)
[10:14] <mr-russ> HaNazir: I don't even know the defaults for ubuntu.  I installed it for the first time today.
[10:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> they're just totally gone
[10:14] <derrickw> polpak - i found one online
[10:14] <darksoul> BROKEN_LADDER: you didint configure your sources right, or there were conflicts from hoary
[10:14] <thoreauputic> BROKEN_LADDER: erm - it still works - for instance I had an old pentium here with fluxbox and no ubuntu-desktop I upgraded to breezy
[10:14] <apes> mustard5, well should at least do it during login but also tried an ogg file
[10:14] <polpak> derrickw: congrats
[10:14] <darksoul> polpak: were do i learn to make programs and games?
[10:14] <apes> mustard5, it worked before i rebooted
[10:14] <mr-russ> polpak: yeah, writing games.  That's not always as easy as it looks.
[10:15] <apes> mustard5, and nothing was changed
[10:15] <mustard5> apes, k
[10:15] <polpak> mr-russ: depends on the game =p
[10:15] <derrickw> polpak - i'm thrilled to see if WINE emulates this at all. it would be nice to actually test my 3d card. i see the nvidia logo at boot, so apparrently the driver is there, but the only 3d app i've run thus far has been glxgears
[10:15] <thoreauputic> BROKEN_LADDER: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage that pulls in beeded deps for gnome etc
[10:15] <mr-russ> polpak: it's probably the legacy code we have over at stratagus that makes it harder :)
[10:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> thoreauputic ummm..okay.
[10:15] <polpak> derrickw: there are a lot of 3d accellerated games available in universe which run natively
[10:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> polpak accelleration..in LINUX?  pffft..get outta town!
[10:16] <darksoul> polpak: were do i learn to make programs/games, mostly on linux for now
[10:16] <derrickw> polpak - PLANET PENGUIN RACER
[10:16] <thoreauputic> BROKEN_LADDER: lots of people who didn't have that package had troubles
[10:16] <derrickw> darksoul - the book store
[10:16] <apes> mustard5, only think i did was turn off system bell
[10:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> thoreauputic like i couldn't log out of my session back to the gdm..my monitor just died
[10:16] <thoreauputic> BROKEN_LADDER: this is discussed in the wiki page about upgrading
[10:16] <darksoul> derrickw: no..that wouldent really help me..since its outdated..isint there a website or somthing...
[10:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> thoreauputic anyway, i'm doing great now.
[10:16] <derrickw> darksoul - to teach you how to make games/
[10:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> thoreauputic i didn't see that wiki page, but i did spend hours in the help forums and in here.
[10:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> thoreauputic maybe if you had told me this in the morning, i would have saved some major work
[10:17] <darksoul> derrickw: yea
[10:17] <polpak> darksoul: the first think you'll want to do is learn a programming language
[10:17] <thoreauputic> BROKEN_LADDER: great:) next time you dist-upgrade check for the upgrade notes
[10:17] <derrickw> darksoul - learn to program?
[10:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> darksoul c++ is nice.
[10:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> thoreauputic link?
[10:17] <darksoul> polpak: what do you use?
[10:17] <polpak> darksoul: I recommend starting with something like Python. It is pretty quick to learn
[10:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> thoreauputic maybe it will explain where the heck the keymaps went.
[10:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> keymapping in gnome is a nightmare
[10:17] <darksoul> polpak: was it easy? lol
[10:18] <polpak> darksoul: I program in python, C, C++, and Perl
[10:18] <thoreauputic> !tell BROKEN_LADDER about breezy
[10:18] <derrickw> polpak - how did you address the issue of warcraft iii not detecting a disk in the drive?
[10:18] <darksoul> polpak: were do i get the guides lol
[10:18] <apes> i shut off system bell and now sound wont work?~?
[10:18] <johan_> hello! when i installed ubuntu, the setup never asked for what root password i wanted, what is the default password for root then? :P
[10:18] <thoreauputic> apes: not related
[10:18] <derrickw> darksoul - for the love of god just go buy a book. python for dummies or something
[10:18] <theoddbot> johan_: sudo -s instead of su
[10:18] <apes> thoreauputic, you wouldnt think
[10:19] <johan_> ok thx
[10:19] <derrickw> johan - the default root password is the password of the first user you created
[10:19] <polpak> derrickw: Well cedega has support for copy protection. Or you can get a no-cd crack
[10:19] <thoreauputic> apes: the system bell is not part of the sound system (alsa etc)
[10:19] <darksoul> derrickw: shutup its almost 1:30am, tell me a damn place that is still open
[10:19] <derrickw> darksoul - you're not going to start programming games tonight anyway
[10:19] <bimberi> ubotu tell johan_ about root
[10:19] <johan_> oook :D
[10:19] <darksoul> derrickw: no shit, but at least i could get a look at the code
[10:19] <derrickw> darksoul - google is your friend
[10:20] <johan_> no, i know what root is, but i never got to set root's password, but now i know
[10:20] <johan_> thx
[10:20] <bimberi> johan_: btw there is no root password, the account is disabled by default
[10:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> google = big brother
[10:20] <darksoul> derrickw: omg another person who always says that =/....but your right it is your freind lol
[10:20] <See_ME_HERE> Hello everyone?
[10:20] <polpak> darksoul: here's a good place.. http://docs.python.org/tut/tut.html
[10:20] <Cryptid> thoreauputic, i need ur help the Breezy installation disk says 350mb of disk space is enough for installing ubuntu where as i have a 2 gb HD from which around 175mb is used as swap partition, when i tried installing ubuntu the base installation is completed without any problem but when the second stage comes (installing packages) after around 30-40% is completed it gives a error saying it ran out of disk space what do i do????
[10:21] <darksoul> thanks
[10:21] <gteppel> SANE just provided support for the HP Scanjet 2300c, it doesn't look like that newest version of sane made it into the breezy release, what is the best way to get support for this scanner, build from source??
[10:21] <polpak> decent walkthrough and tutorial of the language
[10:21] <See_ME_HERE> is someone can confirm about serial attach scsi for ubuntu?
[10:21] <apes> thoreauputic, if bell and sound != related, why does this only change affect the sound!??
[10:21] <johan_> omg, ubuntu seems very nice!! i just finished the install for about 10 minutes ago, it seems clean, fast and really nice :D
[10:21] <polpak> darksoul: once you familiarize yourself with the language you can look into starting with some text base game development
[10:22] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: hmm - sounds like you have actually run out of space - I thought 1.8 GB was enough but maybe not for breezy
[10:22] <derrickw> darksoul - or be l33t like me and write games in PHP
[10:22] <derrickw> actually i've just got too much free time =(
[10:22] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: probably the /var/cache/apt/ is filling up with packages
[10:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> the app registry doesn't have a gui? jesus h.
[10:23] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: you might have to do a server install and add apps afterwards
[10:23] <Cryptid> thoreauputic, how do i add apps later?
[10:23] <johan_> but, i have two monitors, for the moment im trying to install the ati driver, but are there any other way to get multiple monitors work on with a radeon 9600?
[10:23] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: you use apt or aptitude
[10:23] <apes> ANyone figure out why my sound only worked on first boot?
[10:24] <polpak> BROKEN_LADDER: synaptic ?
[10:24] <Cryptid> how much space does the server installation require?
[10:24] <thoreauputic> apes: the fact that one followed the other doesn't prove causality
[10:24] <Chameleon22> what app do i need to convert ogg to mp3?
[10:25] <gigcs>  gig
[10:25] <apes> thoreauputic, of course not
[10:25] <thoreauputic> apes: did you try reversing the system bell thing?
[10:25] <apes> thoreauputic, yes
[10:25] <thoreauputic> apes: also you might  have turned off something like system sounds, or changed nultimedia settings?
[10:25] <bimberi> Chameleon22: audacity can do that
[10:25] <apes> thoreauputic, nope
[10:26] <gigcs> How To sign package debian .
[10:26] <dooglus> derrickw: what's the URL for the linux creatures?
[10:26] <Chameleon22> bimberi, thanks will check it out
[10:26] <derrickw> dooglus - i forgot. it's called docking station
[10:26] <derrickw> polpak - is reign of chaos the name of the original warcraft 3?
[10:26] <polpak> derrickw: yes
[10:26] <thoreauputic> apes: well, it's hard to say without more info - and what you need is someone like crimsun to diagnose your problem
[10:26] <bimberi> Chameleon22: np. there might be better ways, but its the one i know of :)
[10:26] <polpak> derrickw: The Frozen Throne is the expansion
[10:26] <dooglus> derrickw: thanks.  got it.
[10:27] <thoreauputic> apes: try the users mailing list ?
[10:27] <Cryptid> thoreauputic, will just inserting the cd be enought to start the package manager,, coz usually when the ubuntu cd is detected when inserted it gives an option of starting the package manager rite?
[10:27] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: erm - sorry that doesn't make sense to me
[10:27] <apes> thoreauputic, only thing i can think of are tese IBM T42p sound buttons which are not mapped in Ubuntu correctly -- and setting them manually fails
[10:27] <apes> maybe they shut off the sound internally
[10:28] <derrickw> polpak - finding no cd cracks is becoming a pain
[10:28] <thoreauputic> later all - stuff I have to do here
[10:28] <polpak> derrickw: yeah, that's why I just used cedega
[10:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> polpak no, i mean the place you set mime associations
[10:29] <derrickw> polpak - i don't have cadega
[10:29] <Cryptid> thoreauputic, usually when u insert the Ubuntu installation disk ur promted by an option of launching the pacakage manager,,, so if i install the server version of Ubuntu then insert the cd will i be able to install the apps?
[10:29] <fatehaze> ok, back
[10:29] <fatehaze> this is the error i get when trying to install the base system on my powerbook
[10:30] <fatehaze> an error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system
[10:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> i wish gnome had that menu bar in task bar feature like mac os and kde. :(
[10:30] <|3lack|ce> just to let y'all know for those of you who're still around that helped me as ubuntu earlier..thanks. I got it installed :)
[10:31] <See_ME_HERE> serial attach scsi (SAS) everyone? already test it?
[10:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> sata?
[10:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> oh no..
[10:34] <derrickw> is it possible to install os x under linux?
[10:34] <mr-russ> how common are updates to packages in universe?
[10:34] <mr-russ> given they are not supported by ubuntu developers.
[10:36] <crimsun> mr-russ: not terribly common.
[10:36] <cyphase> would anyone be interested in an all-in-one download manager?
[10:36] <crimsun> i.e., there has to be a security update or a major one-line bugfix
[10:36] <cyphase> nothing fancy..
[10:36] <nalioth> derrickw: if you have apple hardware you can run Mac On Linux (mol)
[10:36] <nalioth> cyphase: sure we would
[10:37] <cyphase> but it would support http, ftp, sftp, bittorrent, edonkey links, etc
[10:37] <mr-russ> crimsun: so who maintains those packages.
[10:37] <mr-russ> sorry is these are dumb questions.  new to ubuntu.  not new to linux.
[10:38] <bimberi> mr-russ: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[10:38] <crimsun> mr-russ: we do.
[10:38] <crimsun> (we being MOTU)
[10:39] <mr-russ> ah, so it's like the debian model, and core packages are commercially supported by ubuntu.
[10:39] <frogzoo> See_ME_HERE: Looks pretty new - compile your own kernel maybe? see http://linux.adaptec.com/sas/
[10:41] <crimsun> mr-russ: s/commercially//
[10:41] <crimsun> mr-russ: though yes, you can purchase actual support contracts
[10:41] <mr-russ> okay, so it's nobody's fault if something goes wrong with the other packages.
[10:42] <crimsun> correct, universe & multiverse are "best effort"
[10:42] <crimsun> granted, we push fairly hard with our limited group
[10:42] <nalioth> mr-russ: the motu team does a fine job
[10:42] <bimberi> hear hear!
[10:43] <kittykat_> huh?
[10:45] <e1sbaer> I've a problem connecting my BT-Mouse and -Keyboard at systemstartup
[10:45] <mr-russ> I'm just checking.  I know who to contact and how to go about supplying patches too when I need a package updated.
[10:45] <mr-russ> thanks all who comments, you have all been a great help.
[10:45] <fatehaze> I get the following error when trying to install ubuntu on my powerpc:
[10:45] <fatehaze> I get the following error when trying to install ubuntu on my powerpc:
[10:45] <mr-russ> s/comments/commented/
[10:45] <fatehaze> an error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system
[10:45] <polpak> mr-russ: #ubuntu-motu I find most helpfull
[10:45] <fruud> anyone wanna help me ?
[10:46] <mr-russ> polpak: I've joined there.  I think I will be hanging out there a bit.
[10:46] <mr-russ> it's probabl less "busy" than this channel.
[10:46] <polpak> mr-russ: considerably so
[10:46] <frogzoo> fruud: don't ask - just state your problem
[10:46] <fruud>  cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/ruby-gnome2 co -P modulename   ( What do i type on Modulename ?! )
[10:47] <nalioth> fatehaze: what hardware is that?
[10:47] <e1sbaer> how can I connect BT-HIDs at startup?
[10:47] <fatehaze> it's a g4 powerbook
[10:47] <leagris> fatehaze, did you check the integrity of the CD used for installation ?
[10:47] <frogzoo> fruud: oh dear, I really don't know if you're up to what you're trying to do
[10:47] <fatehaze> yup, checksum checks out
[10:47] <fruud> ?
[10:47] <drcode> hi all
[10:47] <fruud> frogzoo,  ?
[10:47] <nalioth> fatehaze: check the md5 of your iso image and burnt disc
[10:47] <drcode> I have some strange problem
[10:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fatehaze about verify
[10:48] <leagris> fatehaze, you can do this with md5sum and compare with the reference md5
[10:48] <drcode> on the top of the screen I see long names
[10:48] <fatehaze> checksum checks out
[10:48] <drcode> like firefox - www.google.com
[10:48] <drcode> somthing like that
[10:48] <drcode> where I Can fix it
[10:48] <phanter> hello, where can I find and how do I install the gnomebaker audio plugin?
[10:49] <nalioth> fatehaze: burn the disc on the slowest burn speed
[10:49] <polpak> drcode: I don't see what the problem is....
[10:49] <fruud> What do they mean on "modulename" ????? ( cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/ruby-gnome2 co -P modulename )
[10:49] <leagris> fatehaze, then initrd thing is used to build a bootstrap ram disk image providing drivers and modules to run the hardware on your computer
[10:49] <frogzoo> fruud: why not just stick with synaptic?
[10:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i change the default gnome setup for new user accounts; and don't say /skel
[10:49] <fruud> ??
[10:49] <leagris> fatehaze, on reason that may fail in building the initrd image is with insufficiant RAM
[10:49] <drcode> sorry
[10:49] <drcode> I Am in xfce
[10:50] <polpak> fruud: apt-get install ruby-gnome2
[10:50] <fatehaze> there's about a gig on my powerbook
[10:50] <fruud> ty.
[10:50] <polpak> fruud: or rather sudo apt-get install ruby-gnome2
[10:50] <mrtwister> hi, upgrading hoary -> breeze. questions. 1. where is backports (repositories)? 2. mplayer? :)
[10:50] <fatehaze> would my partition setup affect that?
[10:50] <fatehaze> i still have osx on another partition
[10:50] <fruud> could not find package
[10:50] <nalioth> leagris: most new apples dont have any hardware limitations such as that
[10:50] <nalioth> mrtwister: backports is empty atm
[10:50] <fatehaze> i set aside a 15gb partition, and used the ext3 journal system... that sound correct?
[10:50] <leagris> fatehaze, that may b a possibility but I know nothing about the particularity with powerpc and powerbook setups sorry
[10:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mrtwister about backports
[10:51] <mrtwister> hi, upgrading hoary -> breeze. questions. 1. where is backports (repositories)? 2. mplayer? :) at present, in hoary, i just compiled mplayer. 3. have i to remove gnome settings etc under user account to get breezy settings ?
[10:51] <polpak> fruud: use synaptic
[10:51] <nalioth> fatehaze: did you create a / and a "new world bootstrap" or did you just create some free space and let the installer do it?
[10:51] <fruud> polpak, whats thta ?
[10:51] <fruud> that*
[10:51] <mrtwister> nalioth, empty atm?
[10:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mrtwister about mplayer
[10:51] <fatehaze> i did what you just said, with a / root and newworld boot
[10:52] <nalioth> mrtwister: there are no programs backported yet, the repo is open, toh
[10:52] <fatehaze> and a swap
[10:52] <polpak> fruud: your package management tool.. Click on System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[10:52] <fruud> ty
[10:52] <nalioth> fatehaze: i'm thinking it's a bad burn of the cd. burn it again on the slowest speed (and dont use Disk Utility)
[10:52] <polpak> do a search for ruby-gnome2
[10:52] <fatehaze> roger that
[10:52] <fatehaze> thanks guys!
[10:53] <phanter> the plugin handeling file type audio/mpeg is not installed. What can I do about this?
[10:53] <fruud> polpak, there is no "ruby-gnome2" in synaptic
[10:53] <fruud> :(
[10:53] <polpak> yes there is
[10:53] <polpak> fruud: you using Breezy?
[10:53] <darkness> Hello?
[10:53] <fruud> ya
[10:54] <curious_kitty> i'm using breezy too
[10:54] <darkness> Hello everyone.
[10:54] <polpak> fruud: it's there.. Let me find the section
[10:54] <bwb> hello
[10:54] <fruud> ok
[10:54] <nalioth> !info ruby-gnome2
[10:54] <ubotu> ruby-gnome2: (GNOME-related bindings for the Ruby language), section universe/interpreters, is extra. Version: 0.13.0-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 17 kB, Installed size: 60 kB
[10:55] <fruud> polpak, i get this when im trying to setup, (setup.sh: line 4: ruby: command not found
[10:55] <fruud> )
[10:55] <nalioth> fruud: it's in universe
[10:55] <fruud> ok
[10:55] <nalioth> fruud: do yourself a favor and enable universe and multiverse
[10:56] <fruud> .. how ? :(
[10:56] <polpak> fruud: read the getting started guide
[10:56] <fruud> ok
[10:57] <darkness> Can anyone sugest a nice IDE for C++?
[10:58] <darkness> I have looked around but avn't found anything that isn't a huge download.
[10:58] <apes> darkness, KDevelop
[10:58] <Decadent> is there a program similar to netlimiter for ubuntu??
[10:58] <darkness> How big is the download?
[10:58] <apes> darkness, or Eclipse 3 woth the C++ plugin
[10:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fruud about repos
[10:58] <polpak> darkness: There's several, most notably, Eclipse and  Codeblocks
[10:58] <darkness> Thanks.
[10:58] <nalioth> Decadent: trickle
[10:59] <Decadent> ok thanks
[10:59] <Decadent> :)
[11:00] <darkness> I must say, i am finding ubuntu a very good os.
[11:01] <nalioth> darkness: so do we
[11:01] <darkness> Lol, i would have thought so!
[11:01] <reedbeat> hi, i want to run xasane without getting root, iam using a parallel scanner, how can ig ret access as normal user?
[11:01] <darkness> I have only been using it for a few days. NO problems at all apart from installing some things.
[11:02] <J_Element> can any one help me with this command " iptables -t -net -APOSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE "
[11:02] <J_Element> its not working...
[11:02] <nalioth> reedbeat: use sudo
[11:02] <J_Element> its giving this message " iptables v1.2.11: can't initialize iptables table `-net': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)
[11:02] <J_Element> Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded"
[11:02] <reedbeat> hi nalioth, i dont want to use sudo
[11:03] <reedbeat> becaue it saves pics with root rights
[11:03] <reedbeat> and than i dont see anything as normal user
[11:03] <polpak> J_Element: get Firestarter
[11:03] <nalioth> xsane shouldn't require superuser privleges
[11:03] <polpak> J_Element: makes setting up your firewall rules much eaiser
[11:03] <gilligan_> hi
[11:03] <gilligan_> anyone here using the Gorilla icon theme?
[11:03] <reedbeat> iam using a parallel scanner, maybe thats the point?
[11:04] <polpak> J_Element: course I misread what you were trying to do
[11:04] <fruud> thanks for the help guys. over and out.
[11:04] <polpak> J_Element: which is set up masqurading ;p
[11:04] <reedbeat> xsane says when starting with normal user: no device found
[11:04] <reedbeat> as root, it finds the scanner
[11:05] <Renski> reedbeat: find the file for the scanner, and change its permissions
[11:05] <gilligan_> I'm having probs with Gorilla (and some other icon themes) -- the correct icons exist for various mimetypes but they just aren't being displayed.. like I get a 'blank paper' icon instead of a cd icon when inserting any kind of CD
[11:05] <polpak> reedbeat: your normal user probably doesn't have permissions for the device
[11:05] <polpak> reedbeat: you just need to find out what the device is and change the permissions for it
[11:05] <J_Element> polpak,
[11:05] <reedbeat> polpak: ok, how can i find out the device?
[11:05] <J_Element> i need to masquerade :S please any one ...
[11:05] <reedbeat> is it in /proc ?
[11:06] <J_Element> can any one help me with this command " iptables -t -net -APOSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE "
[11:07] <nalioth> J_Element: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[11:09] <darkness> I think i might go with codeblocks
[11:11] <darkness> By everyone. Thanks too those people who suggested a IDE for me.
[11:12] <afd_> hi! why is gnome-terminal not recording the bash history and how can I enable it? It sucks to type a lot of commands and not be able to find them later with reversed search
[11:12] <mrtwister> afd_, it recording, by default. i not know how to turn off for example :)
[11:13] <mrtwister> afd_, use xterm, aterm, mrxvt for a whil then :)
[11:13] <Habbie> euh
[11:13] <Habbie> that won't help
[11:13] <Habbie> as it's not gnome-terminals fault
[11:13] <mrtwister> Get:514 http://lt.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe openoffice.org-bin 1.1.5-0ubuntu1 [41.8MB] 
[11:13] <mrtwister> 26% [514 openoffice.org-bin 10024184/41.8MB 23%] 
[11:13] <mrtwister> i upgrading hoary to breeze
[11:14] <mrtwister> why they downloading openoffice 1-5, not 2.0?
[11:14] <gnomefreak> afd_, using bash terminal you should beable to hit the up arrow
[11:14] <darksoul> is there a way to password-protect a partion..or encrypt it with a password on it?
[11:14] <nalioth> mrtwister: please dont paste in here (see the /topic)
[11:14] <afd_> gnomefreak, what bash terminal are you refering to?
[11:14] <nalioth> mrtwister: oOo2 doesnt exist yet for ubuntu
[11:14] <mrtwister> nalioth, ok, thx
[11:14] <afd_> mrtwister, I would, but I like multiple tabs
[11:14] <polpak> mrtwister: cause OO 2.0 was released after breezy was locked?
[11:14] <mrtwister> afd_, mrxvt have
[11:15] <nalioth> mrtwister: it will appear in backports, i'm quite sure
[11:15] <mrtwister> afd_, and multi-aterm
[11:15] <polpak> darksoul: to what end?
[11:15] <gnomefreak> afd_,  as far as i know there is only 1 bash terminal
[11:15] <darksoul> polpak: i want to encrypt the entire partion with a password, its only 250mb or somthing like that
[11:15] <mrtwister> darksoul, use bestcrypt
[11:15] <mrtwister> darksoul, but it making virtual partition
[11:16] <gnomefreak> afd_, open terminal and type bash that will make sure your using bash
[11:16] <mrtwister> darksoul, which present as file and you can encrypt
[11:16] <darksoul> ?
[11:16] <darksoul> were do i get bestcrypt
[11:16] <mrtwister> darksoul, google for bestcrypt or apt-cache search for it
[11:16] <mrtwister> darksoul, it is commercial btw
[11:17] <mrtwister> darksoul, but month trial available
[11:17] <afd_> gnomefreak, yeah, i do that for root, sudo bash :)
[11:17] <darksoul> no then..
[11:17] <darksoul> thats not secure to me then lol
[11:18] <polpak> darksoul: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=04/06/07/2036205
[11:18] <darksoul> polpak: thanks
[11:19] <darksoul> polpak: your still here..
[11:19] <polpak> yeah, I need to go to bed
[11:19] <polpak> ;p
[11:20] <NegativeSoul> hi
[11:20] <darksoul> i would..but its to late now
[11:20] <gnomefreak> too late here too or i would be still in bed :(
[11:21] <darksoul> mm ill prob skip school just to sleep
[11:23] <gnomefreak> afd_,  im sorry i cant think of anything that would cause the up arrow not to recall commands
[11:24] <gnomefreak> unless ofcourse the key board is not configured right
[11:25] <topyli> of if the history size is set at 0 :)
[11:25] <sazwerx> helloo.. how to use "Terminal Server Client"? when i'm trying to connect to my Window$ computer, i'm always get "Connection Refused".. FYI, my firewall in Window$ has allowed port for "Remote Desktop".. Anyone has clue?
[11:28] <gnomefreak> its 5:30 am i dont get a clue till atleast 8am :(
[11:28] <darkness> Hi, can anyone try to help me install codeblocks?
[11:29] <darkness> I have downloaded it, and the file is codeblocks-1.Orc2_mingw.exe
[11:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> 
[11:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> 
[11:30] <darkness> When i double click it, a message comes up saying "Couldn't display "/home/darkness/Desktop/codeblocks-1.2orc2_mingw.exe"."
[11:31] <nicola_> hi all. I've a little question: how I can delete an app from the gnome-panel?
[11:31] <gardin> hello!, i'm trying to install the ati drivers as in the tutorial on ubuntuforums.org, but when i try the command sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 module-assistant build-essential fakeroot dh-make debconf libstdc++5 gcc-3.3-base
[11:31] <gnomefreak> they make .exe files for linux?????????
[11:31] <topyli> darkness: that's a windows installer. no worky. get the source
[11:31] <gardin> it doesnt find the package module-assistant
[11:31] <darkness> Oh bugger. Ok, i'll go get the source.
[11:32] <nalioth> darkness: why are you running a windows executable?
[11:32] <darkness> Because i have only just started to use linux, and i had no idea i was trying to install a windows exe.
[11:32] <nicola_> HELP: I can't delete an app to the gnome panel
[11:33] <reedbeat> hi, where can i find the devicefile for parallelpoprt in ubuntu?
[11:33] <nalioth> darkness: np, friend. make sure you install "build-essential" before you tackle the source code
[11:33] <gardin> apt-get doesnt find the package module-assistant that it says i need to install in the ati driver tutorial on ubuntuforums...
[11:33] <reedbeat> tried /dev/port
[11:33] <reedbeat> or is it /dev/?
[11:33] <topyli> nicola_: that's one of the strangest sentences i've ever heard
[11:33] <gnomefreak> nicola_,  try sudo apt-get remove <packagename>
[11:34] <gnomefreak> nicola_, thats if you want it gone from pc
[11:34] <reedbeat> i want to set permissions for my parprt scanner
[11:34] <reedbeat> sorry "parport"
[11:34] <nicola_> I can't delete an app from application/office menu of the panel
[11:34] <topyli> reedbeat: that's /dev/lp or lp0 or some such
[11:34] <reedbeat> ok, thx!
[11:35] <nicola_> I've searched for a config file for gnome2 where these info was stored but unsuccesfully
[11:35] <gnomefreak> nicola_, you just want it gone from menu you can use smeg to do that
[11:35] <gnomefreak> nicola_, use applications menu editor
[11:36] <LathropWells> I Love Ubuntu! :)
[11:36] <darkness> So do i!
[11:36] <topyli> reedbeat: best way to run a parallel scanner is to use saned, then connect to it as a user through the "net" sane interface
[11:36] <reedbeat> ok, ill check this
[11:36] <nicola_> gnomefreak: application menu editor? how can I find this apps?
[11:37] <nalioth> nicola_: right click on your menu
[11:37] <gnomefreak> click on applications than system tools  or right click your menu
[11:37] <reedbeat> chown and chmod on /dev/lp0 dindnt work, xsane doesnt find the scanner , as root it works
[11:38] <topyli> reedbeat: yeah, i'll bet my pants you'll end up reading about saned eventually :)
[11:38] <nicola_> nalioth: if I right click on my menu, I can only add the launcher on the panel but not remove or modify icon for example
[11:38] <darkness> HEy, do i download codeblocks-1.0-rc2/src.rpm?
[11:38] <reedbeat> topyli: right, yoop.
[11:38] <gnomefreak> nicola_, right click where it says applications
[11:38] <_native_> how come there are no fluxbox themes available?
[11:38] <nalioth> nicola_: you are using breezy?
[11:39] <_native_> in the repos.
[11:39] <nicola_> nalioth: yes, I'me using breezy
[11:39] <nalioth> _native_: visit deviantart.com for them
[11:39] <_native_> okie
[11:39] <gnomefreak> <<<assuming she is using gnome
[11:40] <gnomefreak> or he
[11:40] <nalioth> nicola_: as gnomefreak says, right click on the applicatins menu, or system tools > applications menu editor
[11:42] <pavelich> it says i dont have permission to write to my floppy when i try to drag and drop
[11:42] <pavelich> what do i doo
[11:43] <nicola_> ok nalioth, but in this menu I can't change icons
[11:43] <gnomefreak> nicola_,  i thought you wanted to get something out of the menu not change icons
[11:44] <curious_kitty> my new breezy takes quite a long to boot, and i would like to build a kernel iage
[11:44] <curious_kitty> image*
[11:44] <nicola_> yes, I wanted to delete an launcher and to modify icon to another
[11:44] <nalioth> nicola_: sure you can (on mine it works)
[11:44] <darkness> Grrr, installing things isn't as easy as i thought.
[11:44] <nalioth> darkness: whats up?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> nicola_, if you mean the icons to the right of the word system right click the icon you want to change and click properties than left click the picture in properties
[11:45] <darkness> Trying to install codeblocks C++ ide, and i am not sure which file to download, and how to install it.
[11:45] <nalioth> darkness: get the "source code" usually in a .tar.gz format
[11:46] <darkness> Ummm, i have a .tgz a source .rpm and a .spec file
[11:46] <nicola_> In menu Applications->office I've openoffice2 installed (and also openoffice1). I want delete openoffice1 (and now I've deleted them) but also change icon to openoffice2
[11:47] <El-Presidente> how can I clear apt-get so it stops downloading something everytime I run it
[11:47] <nicola_> If I find a config file for the gnome-panel, with vim or some other editor I can perform these operations quickly
[11:47] <gnomefreak> El-Presidente,  what is it downloading and what command are you using?
[11:47] <nalioth> El-Presidente: apt-get or synaptic?
[11:47] <ompaul> El-Presidente, what are you saying, there is a "broken" package there ?
[11:48] <El-Presidente> yeah
[11:48] <El-Presidente> im using apt-get
[11:48] <darksoul> hey if your running two servers, how much can a gui slow it down (gnome)
[11:48] <nalioth> El-Presidente: apt-get is supposed to download. that is it's purpose
[11:48] <ompaul> El-Presidente,  sudo apt-get remove broken-name
[11:49] <El-Presidente> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:49] <El-Presidente> keep getting that
[11:49] <nalioth> El-Presidente: what pkg is this on?
[11:49] <darksoul> try sudo killall name
[11:49] <ompaul> El-Presidente, paste the output into paste.ubuntulinux.nl and let use see what is happening
[11:49] <El-Presidente> webmin-apache
[11:50] <El-Presidente> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4523
[11:51] <Myk3> hey is there a reason when i add the univers and multi in 5.10 and do a update it fails?
[11:52] <topyli> nicola_: are you sure you are uninstalling the programs, and not just deleting random icons? :)
[11:52] <ompaul> El-Presidente, try this  >> sudo touch /etc/webmin/update.conf <<  then run the command
[11:53] <El-Presidente> ahh ompaul -- legend :D
[11:53] <El-Presidente> ty
[11:53] <ompaul> El-Presidente, np
[11:54] <Steinbeck1> does ubuntu's installation allow make it easy to dualboot for windows or am i going to need partition magic or another program to do it?
[11:55] <nalioth> Steinbeck1: it automajically fixes you up for dual bootig
[11:55] <soundray> Steinbeck1, Ubuntu will make a bootloader entry so you can select your OS at boot.
[11:55] <Steinbeck1> good:)
[11:56] <ompaul> Steinbeck1, not using windows I know very little about that - however it does have the tools to help with it but make sure you defrag your windows several times each time you do it you can recover more
[11:56] <nicola_> hi topyli: I don't wont uninstall some pkg, I wont modify my gnome-panel via command line
[11:56] <soundray> Steinbeck1, if Windows occupies the whole of your hard drive, you're going to have to repartition it.
[11:56] <Steinbeck1> why would I need to defrag?
[11:57] <ompaul> Steinbeck1, to try and get as much of the data at the "front of the disk" at the one time - thus making it easier for Linux to install
[11:57] <topyli> Steinbeck1: it will be safer to resize your windows partition if your stuff is neatly arranged
[11:57] <gnomefreak> Steinbeck1, because windows doesnt use space like it should it will put things all over the hard drive instead of in a section
[11:57] <LathropWells> Hi Steinbeck1 - if you are resizing defrag will help you get all the space  - a fragment nr the disk edge keeps resize conservative
[11:57] <topyli> nicola_: ok, you can edit the menus with an editor, they're just xml files
[11:57] <LathropWells> "a solid block" of data
[11:57] <Steinbeck1> ok thank you
[11:57] <ompaul> so more defrags = more linux room
[11:57] <topyli> nicola_: in /usr/share/applications i think
[11:57] <LathropWells> more defrags more linux room. :0
[11:58] <LathropWells> :)
[11:58] <ompaul> it compacts better with less room for it to be spread over
[11:58] <gnomefreak> more defrag not only more linux oom but allows windows to run faster :) 2 good reasons to defrag
[11:58] <Steinbeck1> ive downloaded the X64 version is there support for all the programs in linux in x64?
[11:58] <soundray> What's the back end of the partitioner in the Ubuntu installer?
[11:58] <ompaul> gnomefreak,  windows running is a reason? :-)
[11:58] <topyli> Steinbeck1: linux installers might also break stuff when resizing ntfs if you're a very unlucky person
[11:58] <gnomefreak> lol ompaul good point
[11:59] <jimcooncat> I'm looking for a command line tool or proc entry that will report the ppp connection speed, like "48k" or "52k" for a dialup modem. I've tried several monitor programs and don't see this figure, just traffic values. Anyone?
[11:59] <nalioth> Steinbeck1: there is not (i assume you have the amd64 disc)
[11:59] <topyli> Steinbeck1: i'd arrange some empty space before installing linux
[11:59] <nicola_> topyli: do you know also the file name?
[11:59] <darkness> I cannot figure out how to install anything on ubuntu. Does anyone know of a good tutorial on this problem?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> Steinbeck1,  support for ubuntu = forums mailing lists or here
[11:59] <LathropWells> Steinbeck - I am likely to get into trouble for saying this...  - get the 32 bit version if you are new to linux - 64 bit in my opinion just isn't ready fir a new user
[11:59] <nalioth> darkness: what is up?
[11:59] <darkness> Well, it ain't really a problem, but for me it is
[11:59] <Steinbeck1> nalioth, yes
[11:59] <Steinbeck1> im burning it right now
[11:59] <topyli> nicola_: every entry is in its own file called something.desktop IIRC
[12:00] <gardin> when i installed the ati-driver as in the how-to on ubuntuforums, i try to dpkg -i fglrx... but there is no such file as fglrx-control... as in the tutorial???
[12:00] <nalioth> Steinbeck1: support for popular format audio/video is quite lacking at this time on amd64
[12:00] <Habbie> ompaul, games, other windows-only applications
[12:00] <soundray> darkness, have you tried System - Administration - Synaptic Package Manager ?
[12:00] <Steinbeck1> so i should probally just go back and download x32?
[12:00] <nalioth> Steinbeck1: for maximum entertainment, i'd suggest using the i386 install disc and upgrading afterward to the i686 kernel
[12:00] <gnomefreak> Habbie, you dont really NEED windows for those they will run on linux
[12:01] <Habbie> gnomefrea, not all of them; but then again, that argument seems just as valid for cad-software, which was ompaul's point
[12:01] <ompaul> Habbie, I have been saying something like what I said for over 10 years almost 11 at this stage - so I know these things exist  :) I just don't "get the requirement"
[12:01] <nalioth> darkness: join #kubuntu-offtopic for a quick tutorial in installing things
[12:01] <Habbie> ompaul, how is CAD any different?
[12:01] <ompaul> Habbie, there is no replacement for Auto CAD
[12:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> i got my keymap stuff workin
[12:02] <Steinbeck1> nalioth, is it difficult upgrading kernels?
[12:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> 
[12:02] <ompaul> Habbie, it is unfortunately the industry standard
[12:02] <Habbie> ompaul, and autocad doesn't run on linux?
[12:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> Steinbeck1 not if you use apt-get. lol
[12:02] <ompaul> correct
[12:02] <gnomefreak> ompaul, wont auto cad run using wine?
[12:02] <Habbie> ompaul, how about Wine?
[12:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> Steinbeck1 apt-get install kernal-blah
[12:02] <nicola_> topyli: tanks a lot. Now I can modify all I want from my gnome-panel menu
[12:02] <Steinbeck1> what is apt-get?
[12:02] <Habbie> 'google says' it runs in wine
[12:02] <ompaul> Habbie, great
[12:02] <xxMEL0Nxx> Hi all
[12:03] <ompaul> well will later
[12:03] <gnomefreak> apt-get is a text version of synaptic
[12:03] <Steinbeck1> im sorry im new to linux
[12:03] <nalioth> Steinbeck1: not at all
[12:03] <xxMEL0Nxx> I'm having some issues sharing the printer with another ubuntu box
[12:03] <Renski> Theres a gui version of apt-get ?
[12:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Renski about synaptic
[12:03] <Habbie> Renski, synaptic
[12:03] <xxMEL0Nxx> can anyone help me?
[12:03] <Renski> ty
[12:03] <gnomefreak> synaptic is the package manager for ubuntu
[12:04] <soundray> xxMEL0Nxx, there is no way to tell in advance.
[12:04] <Steinbeck1> an installer?
[12:04] <LathropWells> Steinbeck - Ubuntu is graphical for everything you are likely to want to do. - some find typing commands "Relaxing"? - lol
[12:04] <gnomefreak> synaptic= grafical version of apt.
[12:04] <nalioth> darkness: we can go over how to install things in #kubuntu-offtopic , if you wish
[12:04] <Steinbeck1> ok thanks
[12:04] <[nige] > hey all
[12:04] <gnomefreak> i find commands faster :)
[12:05] <Renski> ditto
[12:05] <LathropWells> (Uh-oh - ducks the flame war.)
[12:05] <gnomefreak> lol no flaming here :)
[12:05] <darkness> Ahhh, i am now installing everything in the synaptic package manager.
[12:05] <gnomefreak> use whatever your comfy using is my moto
[12:05] <darkness> But i don't see how that will give me a C++ ide..
[12:06] <LathropWells> lol - Graphical is good. - especially if you are acusomed to the redmond OS
[12:06] <nalioth> darkness: install kdevelop
[12:06] <gnomefreak> C++ ide = anjuta, kdevelop, so on and so forth
[12:06] <darkness> Is that on it?
[12:06] <nalioth> darkness: enable universe and multiverse and you'll find most anything you want
[12:06] <LathropWells> << - I will learn to program kernel modules when the next kernel programming for dummies is published.
[12:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell darkness about repos
[12:06] <Renski> LathropWells: what is this "the OS who must not be named?"
[12:06] <soundray> xxMEL0Nxx, what's the problem?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> anjuta is just like kdevelop but you dont need any kde packages to run it
[12:07] <LathropWells> Some OS from the north west of the United States?
[12:07] <Renski> exactly
[12:07] <ceej> is there anyway u can get information off another partition?!
[12:07] <topyli> nicola_: ok, hack away! =)
[12:07] <xxMEL0Nxx> I can't print from my laptop
[12:07] <darkness> Nalioth: What is univererse and multiverse.. Apart from the obvious.
[12:07] <pc12> ko
[12:08] <LathropWells> ceej - do you mean copy files or disk structure?
[12:08] <xxMEL0Nxx> I run the lpstats -t
[12:08] <nalioth> darkness: patented formats software and non gpl stuff
[12:08] <darkness> Ok, how do i do that?
[12:08] <xxMEL0Nxx> and it shows the printer, but when i try to print from the laptop nothign happens
[12:08] <gnomefreak> darkness, they are repos to give you more package selection
[12:08] <ceej> LathroWells:For say just getting some files off
[12:08] <soundray> xxMEL0Nxx, so you have a printer physically connected to a desktop?
[12:08] <xxMEL0Nxx> yes
[12:09] <nalioth> darkness: you read what ubotu sent you
[12:09] <xxMEL0Nxx> and its working correctly
[12:09] <darkness> OK, ubotu just told me some links. I'm guessing he is just a bot.
[12:09] <soundray> xxMEL0Nxx, and you can print from the desktop?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> darkness,  go to www.freewebs.com/joeboxer and click on linux tab :)
[12:09] <xxMEL0Nxx> yes i can
[12:09] <darkness> After i have finished installing these things, i'll check it out
[12:09] <soundray> xxMEL0Nxx, just checking.
[12:09] <LathropWells> 17,000+ plus free apps and growing. - thats a lot isn't it?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> nc*
[12:09] <nalioth> sneaky sneaky varmints
[12:10] <soundray> xxMEL0Nxx, have you set up the printer on the laptop via System - Admin. - Printing?
[12:10] <xxMEL0Nxx> yes, i have also edited the cups.conf
[12:10] <xxMEL0Nxx> but nothing
[12:11] <soundray> xxMEL0Nxx, which one and why?
[12:12] <drakeoutlaw> hi all, which is the preferred dhcp server for ubuntu dnsmasq or dhcpd
[12:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> 
[12:12] <lcore> BMP player 0.9.7 ubuntu 5.10 output plugin set to alsa kkeps stopping music when screensaver turns on. Any suggestions on howto fix this?
[12:13] <xxMEL0Nxx> I did read the FAQ and it says that i needed to change the et/cups/client.conf
[12:13] <soundray> xxMEL0Nxx, can you point me to that FAQ pls.
[12:13] <LathropWells> !faq
[12:13] <ubotu> methinks faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide is: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation or http://help.ubuntu.com
[12:13] <xxMEL0Nxx> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FrequentlyAskedQuestions#head-31236fe6767d32d8849819b22f0da7da5026023b
[12:13] <darkness> ahhh, the www.freewebs.com/joeboxer link isn't right. Comes up with the page not found thing Freewebs likes to give you
[12:14] <gnomefreak> joeboxernc
[12:14] <gnomefreak> i forgot the nc
[12:14] <gnomefreak> www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc
[12:14] <darkness> Ahh, thank you.
[12:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> can someone do me a huge favor
[12:14] <ceej> LathroWells: ?
[12:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> please send me the file /etc/X11/xkb/symbols slash us
[12:15] <LathropWells> Hi
[12:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> pretend that slash is a real slash
[12:15] <soundray> xxMEL0Nxx, you made those changes on the desktop?
[12:15] <gnomefreak> lol @ pretend
[12:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> to blah ak brokenladder.com
[12:15] <ceej> do you know if there's some way i can view another partition and get files from it?
[12:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> at
[12:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> blah at brokenladder.com
[12:15] <xxMEL0Nxx> yes
[12:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> please someone
[12:16] <xxMEL0Nxx> in the client i put the server ip
[12:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> i cnat tzpe
[12:16] <xxMEL0Nxx> when i restart the cupsd it found the printer
[12:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> i cannot type
[12:16] <xxMEL0Nxx> but i cant print
[12:16] <soundray> xxMEL0Nxx, have you looked at the files in /var/log/cups ?
[12:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> help me
[12:17] <dooglus> BROKEN_LADDER: which version?  breezy, hoary or dapper?
[12:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> breezy
[12:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> htnka tzo
[12:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> errr
[12:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> thank zou
[12:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> thank you
[12:19] <dooglus> BROKEN_LADDER: I put it herE: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4524
[12:19] <drakeoutlaw> BROKEN_LADDER: ok sent to you
[12:19] <boss_> hello
[12:19] <xxMEL0Nxx> in client it says Job queued on E210 by me
[12:19] <drakeoutlaw> BROKEN_LADDER: ok sent to you
[12:19] <boss_> ho start ssh on ubuntu ?
[12:19] <boss_> plz
[12:19] <boss_> help me..someone
[12:19] <dooglus> boss_: run "ssh" from command line
[12:20] <Zukero> just type ssh in a command line
[12:20] <xxMEL0Nxx> in server processipprequest: 5 status code=0
[12:20] <Zukero> boss_ : you may need to apt-get it
[12:20] <boss_> ....
[12:20] <boss_> aha
[12:20] <boss_> 10x man
[12:20] <soundray> xxMEL0Nxx, sounds like you were printing an empty file
[12:20] <dooglus> boss_: u cn use synaptic if u lk
[12:20] <soundray> xxMEL0Nxx, or like you were using the wrong driver on the client.
[12:22] <xxMEL0Nxx> How can I change the driver?, If i delete the printer it appears again, and I cant change the driver from there
[12:22] <buntu_total> people hear speak english not indonesian ?
[12:22] <soundray> xxMEL0Nxx, when you test, do you use the "print test page" button?
[12:23] <xxMEL0Nxx> yes
[12:23] <ompaul> buntu_total, this is normal is there a #ubuntu-id ?
[12:23] <xxMEL0Nxx> also i send a document from writer
[12:23] <soundray> xxMEL0Nxx, do you see all those tests in the job queue?
[12:23] <buntu_total> wups wrong chanel guys :)
[12:23] <darkness> Ok, how do i install multiverse and universe again?
[12:24] <ompaul> !tell darkness about repos
[12:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell darkness about repos
[12:24] <xxMEL0Nxx> no
[12:24] <boss_> e vreun roman paici ? :D
[12:24] <xxMEL0Nxx> in server nothing happens
[12:24] <ompaul> darkness, read the message the bot send you
[12:24] <xxMEL0Nxx> in the client it says queing job
[12:24] <darkness> Thanks.
[12:25] <soundray> xxMEL0Nxx, I mean the "Jobs" item in the printer's context menu.
[12:25] <xxMEL0Nxx> no
[12:25] <xxMEL0Nxx> nothing appears
[12:25] <galotzas> nalioth,  send it to me also plz  (repos)
[12:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell galotzas about repos
[12:26] <galotzas> thanks pal
[12:26] <soundray> xxMEL0Nxx, can you try setting up a new printer
[12:26] <xxMEL0Nxx> going to try
[12:27] <Belnet> holas
[12:28] <ubuntu> hi
[12:29] <ompaul> lo
[12:30] <darkness> Ok, i have done what the link tells me to do. Enabled the universe. Do i just look for kdevelop in there and then install it?
[12:31] <ompaul> darkness, yes it will be called kdevelop3 in ubuntu5.10
[12:32] <nalioth> darkness: enable multiverse, also
[12:32] <darkness> Thank you.
[12:32] <viviersf> any reason why dma / 32 bit is off on my pc ?
[12:32] <darkness> When i was choosing whatever they are called, it only said community maintained universe or something.
[12:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> dude, that keymap file was from breezy?
[12:33] <ompaul> darkness, that is not an issue
[12:34] <darkness> OK.
[12:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> can someone please send me a breezy version of /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/us at clay@brokenladder.com?
[12:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> pleeeeez
[12:34] <xxMEL0Nxx> nothing
[12:34] <darkness>  have found kdevelop, only thing is there are a few of them.
[12:35] <emgee_> Hey people! How do I get Azureus up and running on breezy with java not being in the repositories?
[12:35] <soundray> xxMEL0Nxx, can you select "Generic - Raw" as the driver for the printer you've added.
[12:35] <emgee_> I've tried to install java from java.com, but that doesn't work..
[12:35] <xxMEL0Nxx> yes
[12:35] <darkness> I just clikd kdevelop3.... It wanted to install a ferw different things, i'm letting it. The worst thing that can happen is that i have to reinstall.
[12:35] <BROKEN_LADDER> nice sugar mill dude!
[12:35] <soundray> xxMEL0Nxx, does it work then?
[12:35] <topyli> emgee_: sure it works. but there are packages too
[12:35] <xxMEL0Nxx> let me try
[12:36] <ompaul> darkness, read what it says, you will take the all so you don't have to look back if you want to
[12:36] <ircrob> When will vlc be updated?
[12:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> can someone please take 2 seconds to send me a file.  i'd appreciate it.
[12:36] <Steinbeck1> does ubuntu automatically configure sound?
[12:36] <darkness> Well people, i think you very much for your help. Especially nalioth and ompaul. I will go and make a cup of coffee and let it download.
[12:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> Steinbeck1 you can configure it however you want ti
[12:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> it
[12:36] <topyli> Steinbeck1: it tries to
[12:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> alsamixer
[12:36] <darkness> I got everything i need for it. I think and hope. It's just downloading now.
[12:36] <darkness> I'll most likely be back if i need your help.
[12:36] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, that does not exist here :-)
[12:36] <ari123> is there an prog in ubuntu to burn dvd iso ?
[12:37] <ceej> is there anyway way of getting files from the windows partition from ubuntu?!
[12:37] <mjr> ari123, should work just by right-clicking in nautilus and selecting burn
[12:37] <topyli> ari123: the file manager
[12:37] <Steinbeck1> so ubuntu configures it or do I have to>
[12:37] <Steinbeck1> ?
[12:37] <nalioth> ari123: k3b
[12:37] <ompaul> ari123,  growisofs  if you want to do other stuff command line thing
[12:37] <nalioth> Steinbeck1: ubuntu configures everything (for the most part)
[12:38] <Steinbeck1> ok good
[12:38] <ircrob> ari123: growisofs
[12:38] <topyli> Steinbeck1: it configures all your hardware. if something doesn't work out of the box, it's a bug :)
[12:38] <xxMEL0Nxx> It says "Network host '192.168.1.3 is busy' will retry in 30 secs
[12:38] <Steinbeck1> ok sounds good..linux is going to be better than i thought
[12:39] <Steinbeck1> i keep hearing horrible stories about it
[12:39] <xxMEL0Nxx> but the server is not busy
[12:39] <xxMEL0Nxx> and nothing shows in error_log
[12:39] <soundray> xxMEL0Nxx, try restarting cups on the server.
[12:39] <djp> can anyone point me in the direction of a good installation guide for breezy badger?
[12:40] <ompaul> Steinbeck1, it is not windows so people who approach it as if it was and do not want to learn anything will have a bad time - consider this if you move makes of car you can find the indicator in a different place you get on with your life -in the most part it is people who do not want to learn how to do something and just want to learn things by rote that have problems with computers in the first place
[12:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell djp about breezy
[12:40] <topyli> djp: here: insert cd, reboot, press enter
[12:40] <xxMEL0Nxx> same
[12:40] <djp> topyli, :)
[12:40] <xxMEL0Nxx> if I stop the server it says the same
[12:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone have breezy?
[12:41] <soundray> xxMEL0Nxx, when you've started it, can you confirm that it's running by doing 'ps | grep cupsd' on the server?
[12:41] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, yes but that file does not exist
[12:41] <soundray> xxMEL0Nxx, sorry, ps ax | grep cupsd
[12:42] <djp> nalioth, it is not an upgrade actually. a complete fresh install. i am downloading the iso now
[12:42] <xxMEL0Nxx> yes cupsd -F pid 16747
[12:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> ompaul of course it does
[12:42] <nalioth> djp: then see topyli's instructions
[12:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> -rw-r--r--   1 root root  8191 2005-11-14 03:22 us
[12:43] <codepoet> can anybody direct me though some proper instructions to submit suggestions to developers, or to even get CVS access?
[12:43] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, you saying I (A) have a us kbd and (B) can't use ls ?
[12:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> /etc/X11/xkb/symbols
[12:43] <djp> nalioth, and nothing will need fixing on install?
[12:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> hamare lia ig beer credo
[12:43] <djp> topyli, nalioth, everything will be wroking without the need for a bit of twiddling so to speak?! ;)
[12:43] <nalioth> djp: nothing should need fixing. the isntaller has a built in ntfs resizer for making free space
[12:44] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, sorry - I can't use ls :-) left out the leading /
[12:44] <nalioth> djp: if you want to avoid 'twiddling' you dont need to be running linux
[12:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> ?
[12:44] <xxMEL0Nxx> now it says that the printer is idle in the client
[12:44] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, /etc etc are not the same
[12:44] <djp> amazing! i have had no end of fixing, altering, configuring to do with the latest debian release (3.1 sarg)
[12:44] <xxMEL0Nxx> but as soon as I send a print test
[12:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> djp indeed.  linux won't be hassle free for years
[12:44] <topyli> djp: that's the plan. things can always go awry but let's worry about it then :)
[12:44] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, send you it as a tar ball in a sec
[12:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> no tar ball
[12:44] <xxMEL0Nxx> the network host busy message shows again
[12:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> thx
[12:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> ompaul are you going to buy me a beer?
[12:45] <LathropWells> Is there a handy way to record .pls streams from the command line?
[12:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> ompaul in my kitchen i have ajwaan, fenugreek, methi, tamarind, asafetida, and many other goodes.
[12:45] <djp> topyli, do i still need to download and install smeg in order to muck around with gnome under breezy, as i did with hoary?
[12:46] <kbrooks> ls etc == ls ./etc # ENOENT as in "No such file or directory"
[12:46] <topyli> djp: oh, you can tweak ubuntu, break it, fix it and so on, just like debian if you wish to :)
[12:46] <soundray> LathropWells, .pls = playlist ?
[12:46] <LathropWells> << FAXes BROKEN_LADDER a "Falt" Pepsi. - ;)
[12:46] <topyli> djp: no, smeg is in by default
[12:46] <kbrooks> if you're not in /.
[12:46] <xxMEL0Nxx> im going to give up
[12:46] <LathropWells> soundray - yes i think that is it.
[12:46] <LathropWells> *flat
[12:46] <ceej> how do you find where your windows partition is..... thought it was /dev/hda1 but i was wronge
[12:46] <ceej> mount: special device /dev/hda1
[12:47] <codepoet> can anybody direct me though some proper instructions to submit suggestions to developers, or to even get CVS access?
[12:47] <djp> BROKEN_LADDER, well some distros are better than others for people like myself. i must admit that ubuntu has been one of the most comfortable installs for me in the past, both hoary and the release previous (whos name escapes me right now)
[12:47] <LathropWells> ceej - fdisk -l
[12:47] <ceej> mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist
[12:47] <ceej> *
[12:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> warty
[12:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> breezy is the best by far
[12:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> but it has a few problems
[12:47] <hyakuhei> breezy has broken networking
[12:47] <ceej> LathropWells: that didnt do anything
[12:47] <djp> topyli, sounds good. looking forward to breezy then... ;)
[12:47] <hyakuhei> not sure why
[12:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> breezy has terrorized my keymaps
[12:48] <BlackDalek> I have not been able to get anywhere with my installing of ubuntu.
[12:48] <ceej> i'm doing this at the moment: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win_c -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[12:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> ompaul thx
[12:48] <BlackDalek> it just won't work.
[12:48] <ompaul> k
[12:48] <ari123> is there a way to transform a ntfs patition to fat or ext without loosing data ?
[12:48] <ceej> but my windows partion isn't at /dev/hda1 so i need to find out where it is, but have no idea ;/
[12:49] <Kao|Sleep> anyone know how to import mail messages from Thunderbird to KMail?
[12:49] <LathropWells> ceej - Psst. - give in to the easy way i know you want to... - lol - grab the "Winmac_fstab" script
[12:49] <LathropWells> !winmac_fstab
[12:49] <ubotu> LathropWells: What?
[12:49] <LathropWells> !ntfs
[12:49] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:49] <ceej> LathropWells: what does that do?
[12:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> ompaul it worked!  thank you !!
[12:50] <LathropWells> ceej - It will find all partitions and mount them - then edit the fstab list so they are remounted automatically on reboot.
[12:50] <gardin> is there write-support for ntfs now? :P i haven't tried it, but i heard that there was only read support for a time ago...
[12:51] <ceej> LathropWells: so i can view them from ubuntu?
[12:51] <Kao|Sleep> gardin: i had write support in an early version of the 2.6 kernel..
[12:51] <Kao|Sleep> was extremely alpha tho...
[12:51] <Kao|Sleep> and it did work :)
[12:51] <soundray> ari123, no, there isn't.
[12:51] <gardin> ok hehe
[12:51] <LathropWells> ceej - Yes, - it is very easy to use, - better you can use it as an example to learn BASH scripting.
[12:52] <KaoticEvil> gardin: i wouldnt trust it with data that i didnt *really* need tho
[12:52] <BlackDalek> my ubuntu installation gets up to the 'installing packages' bit, reaches 71% and freezes at 'configuring: xserver-xorg' Why? this happens every time I get to this point in the installation.
[12:52] <ceej> LathropWells: sudo apt-get install Winmac_fstab
[12:52] <ceej>  ?
[12:52] <KaoticEvil> anyone know how to import mail messages from Thunderbird to KMail?
[12:52] <ceej> sorry  sudo bash winmac_fstab?
[12:53] <gardin> but isn't win vista going to use something like WinFS, (just to make it harder for linux to access windows files :P)
[12:53] <LathropWells> it is a text file. - you download it and then change it to executable - google winmac_fstab  - when you see Seveas page grab it. or follow ubotu
[12:53] <KaoticEvil> gardin: yes, ive heard that Vista is going to use a whole new FS...
[12:53] <LathropWells> ubotu tell ceej about ntfs
[12:53] <Habbie> winfs has been cancelled or postponed
[12:53] <KaoticEvil> Habbie: really?
[12:53] <ceej> cheers
[12:54] <KaoticEvil> i wasnt aware of that..
[12:54] <gardin> Habbie: ok? so they'll use ntfs?
[12:54] <Habbie> KF: WinFS generated a lot of excitement and then had to be dropped from this release. Did WinFS play a role in the schedule?
[12:54] <Habbie> http://news.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=us/0-0&fp=4378103518d11fb6&ei=zHp4Q-WYMLf26QHF_51L&url=http%3A//www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/47876/Windows_47876.html&cid=0
[12:54] <Habbie> gardin, I guess :)
[12:54] <Habbie> http://news.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=us/3-0&fp=4378103518d11fb6&ei=zHp4Q-WYMLf26QHF_51L&url=http%3A//www.windowsitpro.com/Windows/Article/ArticleID/47841/47841.html&cid=0
[12:54] <nalioth> Habbie: y'all take the windows talk to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:54] <LathropWells> ceej - editing text has it's place, - good to learn. - so much more fun to boot up and do something fun right away. - lol
[12:54] <Habbie> nalioth, it's talk about accessing windows partitions from ubuntu ;)
[12:55] <HiddenWolf>  but, but, can't you run windows on ubuntu? :P
[12:55] <gardin> Habbie: yea probably :P maybe they'll disable fat32, ms evil-style :P
[12:55] <gardin> sure
[12:55] <BlackDalek> i think that is just isn't possible to install ubuntu onto the system I am trying to install it to.
[12:55] <KaoticEvil> HiddenWolf: with VMWare, yes
[12:55] <nalioth> HiddenWolf: qemu will allow that
[12:55] <nalioth> KaoticEvil: vmware is commercial, qemu is F/OSS
[12:55] <HiddenWolf> KaoticEvil, nalioth google for "joke"
[12:55] <KaoticEvil> qemu?
[12:55] <KaoticEvil> never heard of it..
[12:55] <nalioth> !info qemu
[12:55] <ubotu> qemu: (fast processor emulator), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 0.7.0-4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1783 kB, Installed size: 5332 kB
[12:56] <kbrooks> I need help.
[12:56] <KaoticEvil> :O
[12:56] <ceej> LathropWells: workd a charme thanks
[12:56] <LathropWells> You can buy windows ntfs drivers for linux - erm - but why???
[12:56] <nalioth> kbrooks: friend, just ask your question
[12:56] <LathropWells> ceej - np - "Linux Community" ;)
[12:56] <BlackDalek> ubuntu simply does not work on my system - what is another good linux I can try instead of ubuntu?
[12:57] <HiddenWolf> BlackDalek, define "not work"
[12:57] <ceej> :)
[12:57] <newtolinux> I am in the installing ubuntu on my other computer..im trying to resize the hdd through the guided partitioning option and it keeps failing and says i need to resize manually, ive tried manually but the changes wont seem to apply..any ideas?
[12:57] <gardin> BlackDalek: Ubuntu has become my favourite on 1 hour, i just installed it, and it's great :D
[12:57] <BlackDalek> "not work" as in it can't be installed on my system.
[12:57] <kbrooks> I need SVN server to auomatically start
[12:57] <HiddenWolf> BlackDalek, why not? what goes wrong?
[12:57] <kbrooks> on bootup
[12:57] <LathropWells> gardin - Welcome to Ubuntu! :)
[12:58] <BlackDalek> my ubuntu installation gets up to the 'installing packages' bit, reaches 71% and freezes at 'configuring: xserver-xorg' Why? this happens every time I get to this point in the installation.
[12:58] <KaoticEvil> anyone know how to import mail messages from Thunderbird to KMail?
[12:58] <newtolinux> I currently have windows xp installed on a 120gb drive
[12:58] <HiddenWolf> BlackDalek, burned the cd yourself?
[12:58] <BlackDalek> yes
[12:59] <mahangu_> in breezy, my fat disks are mounted as root, and i cant write to them without doing sudo nautilus /media/hdaX
[12:59] <mahangu_> any work around?
[12:59] <KaoticEvil> BlackDalek: probably a bad burn... try reburning at a slower speed..
[12:59] <soundray> kbrooks, svn as in Subversion?
[12:59] <BlackDalek> it dies installing the packages from the hard drive.
[12:59] <kbrooks> soundray: Yes.
[12:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> now i can type habeero
[12:59] <newtolinux> any ideas?
[12:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> or caon city, colorado
[12:59] <KaoticEvil> mahangu: edit /etc/fstab and add user to the lines mentioning your fat drives..
[12:59] <LathropWells> BlackDaleck - you can check it with a md5summ app md5summer or Filealyzer - both are free.
[01:00] <BlackDalek> it seems to copy the packages from the CD to the hard drive OK, it just freezes at 71% every timewhile installing them from the HD
[01:00] <BlackDalek> i don't have the ISO file anymore. only the CD
[01:00] <HiddenWolf> BlackDalek, press escape during install, and look for "media integrity check"
[01:00] <soundray> kbrooks, is there a svn related file in /etc/default ?
[01:00] <LathropWells> BlackDalek, - my bet is a fingerprint.
[01:01] <J_Element> i need to masquerade :S please any one ...
[01:01] <J_Element> can any one help me with this command " iptables -t -net -APOSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE "
[01:01] <HiddenWolf> What VT does the installer print it's messages on again?
[01:01] <HiddenWolf> F4?
[01:01] <kbrooks> soundray: No
[01:01] <soundray> kbrooks, in /etc/init.d ?
[01:01] <mahangu_> KaoticEvil, evil umask=0?
[01:02] <kbrooks> soundray: no
[01:02] <BlackDalek> is it just me or does ubuntu take 4 hours to install for everyone.?
[01:02] <Zukero> just you
[01:02] <LathropWells> lol - newsflash "Sony is not releasing CD's with anti-piracy program - scolded by the government Homeland Security Agency - Apparently Hackers have written exploits using it already.
[01:02] <ceej> how do you cd into a dir that has a space i.e Adobe Photoshop
[01:02] <nalioth> BlackDalek: just you
[01:02] <ceej> without using cd Photoshop*
[01:02] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ceej about cli
[01:03] <hyakuhei> I have the java 1.5 jdk running fine on breezy, how do i get firefox to use java though?
[01:03] <nalioth> ceej: cd "directory directory"
[01:03] <Zukero> ceej
[01:03] <nalioth> ceej: or cd directory\ directory
[01:03] <Zukero> put  \ before the space
[01:03] <Zukero> or use tab
[01:03] <BlackDalek> I've attemped to install this thing 4 times today and it has taken up the entire day.
[01:03] <Zukero> to auto complete path name
[01:03] <KaoticEvil> mahangu: huh?
[01:03] <nalioth> BlackDalek: is your cd good?
[01:03] <Zukero> BlackDalek : how fast is your cpu/cd drive ?
[01:04] <BlackDalek> nalioth: i have no idea if the CD is good.
[01:04] <ceej> thank you
[01:04] <nalioth> BlackDalek: at the installer menu, as was suggested above, click 'esc' and check media integrity
[01:05] <BlackDalek> zukero it's a celeron 266Mhz... I don't know the speed of the CD-ROM, all I know is it's about 6 years old
[01:05] <soundray> kbrooks, I don't know much about svn, but it seems that there isn't a server as such, just modules for apache2.
[01:05] <Zukero> ah
[01:05] <LathropWells> BlackDalek, - HiddenWolf has the hot tip. - use the media intgritycheck included as an option F# key "Media Integrity Check"   - 1.8mhz machine 33mins.
[01:06] <Zukero> so maybe it's quite normal
[01:06] <kbrooks> soundray: svnserve ...
[01:06] <Zukero> took 2 hrs on a PII with 2x CDROM
[01:06] <Steinbeck1> jeusus thats old
[01:06] <BlackDalek> when I press esc and check media integrity, what does that do?
[01:06] <mustard5> BlackDalek, it checks the CD for errors
[01:07] <Habbie> BlackDale, in my experience, nothing much
[01:07] <LathropWells> BlackDalek, -  xubuntu-desktop - will speed things up quite a bit. - don't worry.
[01:08] <Steinbeck1> will a x64 processor run a x32 linux operating system?
[01:08] <Habbie> Steinbeck, yes
[01:08] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, yes
[01:08] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, its has its advantages doing it that way too
[01:09] <LathropWells> No Execute Bit locking. is just one.
[01:09] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, with regards to what applications will work on your system, you will have more available
[01:09] <soundray> kbrooks, there is a generic way to install system services. Check out /etc/init.d/README.
[01:09] <Steinbeck1> ok
[01:09] <BlackDalek> well, I don't have time to try install again tonight. I will try this media integrity check thing another time... and if I dtill get nowhere I will download the CD again.
[01:09] <Steinbeck1> does linux generally run faster than windows?
[01:09] <Steinbeck1> or about the same
[01:09] <LathropWells> it keeps exploits from ruining your day. - hackers have a tough time bufferoverflowing your machine. with the noex bit
[01:09] <serfserver> hello
[01:10] <Habbie> noex bit is mostly marketing fluff
[01:10] <serfserver> there is some package that I use to have in gnome, it was in system admin, something like network config
[01:10] <Steinbeck1> well thats always good:)
[01:10] <serfserver> How do I get this back, what package? It use to configure the networks dhcp etc
[01:11] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, I dare not make that value judgement :)
[01:11] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, there is potential for it to be faster :D
[01:12] <soundray> Steinbeck1, it's difficult to compare execution speeds fairly under different OS's. I'd say subjectively, there won't be a noticable difference.
[01:12] <fruud> how do i setup my root pasword ? cant login on ROOT from login screen
[01:12] <mustard5> fruud, root login is disabled by default
[01:12] <Habbie> !tell fruud about sudo
[01:12] <Steinbeck1> ah ok
[01:12] <LathropWells> !sudo
[01:12] <ubotu> sudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:12] <Steinbeck1> well atleast its not 100 bucks
[01:12] <mustard5> fruud, you log in as a user and have superuser privileges
[01:12] <LathropWells> lol true - better you can see source code and alter it to your liking.
[01:13] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, this is true :)
[01:13] <serfserver> How do I get this back, what package? It use to configure the networks dhcp etc
[01:13] <Habbie> LathropWe, users don't do that.
[01:13] <kbrooks> soundray: do i really *have* to rtfm?
[01:13] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, its a lot of fun to tweak and play with your system too, if you like tweaking :)
[01:13] <Steinbeck1> itll take some getting used to
[01:13] <Steinbeck1> i have no understanding of the operating system
[01:14] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, it will be like starting with windows from scratch :)
[01:14] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, we have a lot of people around to help you if you have questions though
[01:14] <fruud> one guy helped me b4 to enable to logon as root from login screen :O
[01:14] <Steinbeck1> i started with windows 3.1..but i have a feeling this will be much more challenging
[01:14] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, you've come to the right place ;)
[01:14] <soundray> kbrooks, sorry. I've waited for quite a while before replying to you. There don't seem to be any SVN experts hanging out today... :)
[01:14] <fruud> how do i renew my root psw ?
[01:14] <kbrooks> soundray: svnserve
[01:14] <mustard5> fruud, the instruction are at the wiki link someone provided above
[01:15] <darkness> HEllo everyone.
[01:15] <kbrooks> soundray: i need that to autostart
[01:15] <aftertaf> serfserver: you can do it manually too ;)     edit /etc/networking/interfaces
[01:15] <nalioth> fruud: you should not have a root password
[01:15] <Steinbeck1> yes i heard the community support for ubuntu was good
[01:15] <kbrooks> for anonymous svn.
[01:15] <fruud> ok.
[01:15] <ktogias> fruud, as root run passwd
[01:15] <aftertaf> Steinbeck1: first class, mate ;)
[01:15] <asmz> hello.
[01:15] <kbrooks> ktogias: dont suggest that
[01:15] <serfserver> k
[01:15] <soundray> kbrooks, I understand that, but I can't save you rtfm.
[01:15] <darkness> How do you compiler a c++ program in Kdevelop?
[01:15] <ktogias> kbrooks, why not?
[01:16] <kbrooks> ktogias: you  dont understand sudo
[01:16] <kbrooks> ubotu: tell ktogias about sudo
[01:16] <aftertaf> serfserver: i dont know what its called, but you can do it manually, gives you a bit extra knowhow.....
[01:16] <Steinbeck1> does the os give you a generic video driver or the official drivers(i use ati's x800)
[01:16] <darkness> ubotu: tell darkness about kdevelop
[01:16] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, I would go through your hardware and check for hardware compatibility too
[01:16] <nalioth> ktogias: you are thinking of other distros than ubuntu, we use sudo here (and have no root account)
[01:16] <LathropWells> Ubuntu has a GUI for everything most users want to do. - simple to use - or go geek wild and type everything just like a hacker from the movie "War Games"
[01:17] <aftertaf> Steinbeck1: depends.......
[01:17] <aftertaf> w00t
[01:17] <LathropWells> lol
[01:17] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, personally I think ati can be a bit of a pain.  Depends on the which type of ati really
[01:17] <darkness> Hey, could anyone tell me how to compiler a C++ program using kdevelop or using the terminal.. IF that is how you do it.
[01:17] <Steinbeck1> well its already installing so
[01:18] <Steinbeck1> crossing my fingers
[01:18] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, there is a generic driver, VESA, that will get you going if your ati is being finicky during install
[01:18] <ktogias> if there is no root account password (i also work with sudo) why should someone whant to 'renew his root password'?? I suggested he knew what he wanted to do....
[01:18] <Steinbeck1> why is ati so difficult?
[01:18] <kbrooks> nalioth: the root account is *disabled*. he can *access* it with sudo -s
[01:18] <asmz> Excuse my bad english. I need some help with the eagle-sub driver; i'm using a Hauwei MT810 USB modem, and i can't make it works using the normal configuration. The module charges, but it doesn't detect the modem, like it's not plugged in mi computer.
[01:18] <nalioth> ktogias: there are lots of howtos out there that refernece 'root', in ubuntu we use 'sudo' for superuser duties
[01:19] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, I am not too sure, being a nvidia person.  I just cringe at all the ati people struggling with their driver installs
[01:19] <Steinbeck1> mustard5, :(
[01:19] <ktogias> ok
[01:19] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, depends on what model ati you have :)
[01:19] <Steinbeck1> i use x800
[01:19] <soundray> kbrooks, have you googled? I found http://stonetable.org/wiki/index.php/WorkingWithSubversion
[01:20] <LathropWells> !display
[01:20] <ubotu> from memory, display is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto or ask !Resolution
[01:20] <LathropWells> !ati
[01:20] <ubotu> I guess ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[01:20] <pc22> whats the difference between 386 and 686 kernel?
[01:20] <Steinbeck1> aslong as I can get the higher resolutions and can play videos im fine
[01:21] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, you making a dual boot system or full linux?
[01:21] <Steinbeck1> ive got another computer with windows..so im full
[01:21] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, full install makes life easier :)
[01:22] <Steinbeck1> yes i figured it would
[01:22] <Steinbeck1> hows linux support for wireless cards and routers?
[01:23] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, not too bad in Breezy Badger
[01:23] <Steinbeck1> good
[01:23] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, check if you hardware is listed in here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[01:23] <Steinbeck1> mustartd5, do you know if vesa supports higher resolutions?
[01:24] <Steinbeck1> mustard5, i havent got the card yet, still need to get it
[01:24] <kbrooks> Steinbeck1: also, its not linux, its the linux distributions
[01:24] <Steinbeck1> i just bought this other computer and before than didnt need a router
[01:24] <nalioth> Steinbeck1: vesa supports more resolutions than your vid card can create
[01:24] <Steinbeck1> other computer is on the other side of the house so need to go wireless
[01:24] <kbrooks> they have a tool called "ndiswrapper"
[01:24] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, I don't know for sure.  I can run my desktop on 1280 x 1024 with VESA
[01:24] <soundray> kbrooks, have you found the URL useful?
[01:24] <Steinbeck1> ok thats fine
[01:24] <Steinbeck1> just didnt want to be stuck at 640x480
[01:25] <jouni__m> Hi, does anyone have experience asus p5p800 motherboard?
[01:25] <LathropWells> Steinbeck - You have ati?
[01:26] <darknature> can anyone explain why when firefox can not play some music or a video on a website...it crashes
[01:26] <Steinbeck1> latropwells, yes ati x800
[01:26] <LathropWells> Steinbeck - nice card.
[01:26] <Steinbeck1> with a x64 so i see problems right off the bat
[01:26] <Steinbeck1> yes its a good card
[01:26] <Steinbeck1> also have a geforce 7800gtx ko
[01:26] <Steinbeck1> on my newer one
[01:26] <AngryClip> darknature, its a security umm feature
[01:27] <AngryClip> :P
[01:27] <Steinbeck1> computer*
[01:27] <kbrooks> soundray: modifying the init script atm
[01:27] <crube> Hey I was wondering if anyone knows a good HowTo that could tell me how to get KDE and Gnome installed at the same time and not showing each other's programs.
[01:27] <jouni__m> could anyone help buying pci firewire card?
[01:27] <darknature> hmm how do i modify this security feature
[01:28] <deFrysk> crube, gnome has a menu-editor whre you can comment out/in applications
[01:28] <AngryClip> darknature, launch ff from the command line, then make it crash and show us the error message it outputs
[01:28] <deFrysk> crube, I'm sure kde also has an symilar menu editor
[01:28] <deFrysk> similar*
[01:28] <darknature> command line you mean in the terminal?
[01:28] <AngryClip> yeah darknature
[01:28] <crube> deFrysk,  I'll look into that.
[01:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell darknature about cli
[01:29] <crube> deFrysk, you dont happen to remember the name of that editor.
[01:29] <nalioth> crube: you can ask about kubuntu things in #kubuntu
[01:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell crube about smeg
[01:30] <deFrysk> crube, in gnome its applications > Systemtools >applications menu editor
[01:30] <crube> nalioth well this is actually a little bit of both. I'm using ubuntu but I want to test kde as well without having to mess anything up.
[01:30] <crube> deFrysk, thanks.
[01:30] <J_Element> how can i install my intel sound card using ubuntu :O
[01:30] <deFrysk> crube, also known as nalioth says : smeg
[01:30] <J_Element> im quite new on this
[01:31] <J_P> hi all
[01:31] <LathropWells> crube - you can install kubuntu-desktop with out too much extra fuss. - except the 100meg+ download.
[01:31] <AngryClip> crube, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop *should* work
[01:31] <nalioth> crube: kde has a built in menu editor, ask in #kubuntu
[01:31] <AngryClip> but I haven't tested it
[01:31] <pc22> is their any advantage to me running 686 kernel on my P4?
[01:31] <nalioth> pc22: do you have more than 768mb ram?
[01:31] <kbrooks> but how?
[01:32] <AngryClip> pc22, if it has HT tech, then you will want to use the smp kern
[01:32] <nalioth> kbrooks: visit -motu or -devel
[01:32] <LathropWells> crube - on the initial sign-in password screen there will be an option to switch back and forth betwen gnome and kde.
[01:32] <pc22> 256 ram pnly
[01:32] <pc22> only
[01:32] <nalioth> pc22: do you have ht or dual core?
[01:32] <crube> LathropWells, allright.
[01:32] <dooglus> can I run GNOME without nautilus?
[01:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there a way to change the person icon on the xscreensaver login?
[01:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> doobie_ of course.
[01:32] <nalioth> dooglus: not really
[01:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> absolutely he can.
[01:32] <dooglus> nalioth: why?
[01:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> just don't run it.
[01:32] <nalioth> dooglus: nautilus draws your desktop
[01:32] <AngryClip> dooglus, that sounds like a question for #gnome, but I doubt it
[01:32] <dooglus> I don't run it - it seems to run itself
[01:32] <kbrooks> well, its in main, nalioth
[01:32] <crube> Well it's downloading now. I'll get to test it in about 15 minutes
[01:33] <nalioth> BROKEN_LADDER: and have a broken gnome?
[01:33] <J_Element> can any one help regarding samba file sharing ?
[01:33] <dooglus> I never use it.
[01:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> dooglus you could easily set another program to draw your wallpaper.
[01:33] <J_Element> it keeps setting default network group to Ms home :S
[01:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> nalioth broken? lol
[01:33] <pc22> Nalioth no
[01:33] <dooglus> BROKEN_LADDER: the wallpaper is hidden behind other windows anyway.  I never get to see it
[01:33] <chriss_> hi, i am searching for a linux-distri for my son (12). Goals are gaming and education. my computer is very old  - Pentium 105 Mhz, 32 MB RAM . So what can you recommend me.
[01:33] <nalioth> pc22: then no, using the 686 kernel wont do a thing for you
[01:33] <Habbie> chriss_, edubuntu?
[01:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> dooglus even if you did want to see it, there are programs besides nautilus that could draw it for you.
[01:33] <Habbie> chriss_, although 32MB RAM is really not much
[01:34] <HiddenWolf> Habbie, I doubt that'd run nicely
[01:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> dooglus you don't put icons on your "desktop" do you?
[01:34] <nalioth> dooglus: it's not just wallpaper, it's the right-click functionality, the panels usage and such
[01:34] <LathropWells> crube - erm - Psst. - you can even try XFCE4 or Enlightement Desktop and get this IT'S ADDED AUTO-MAGICALLY!  - this was enough to make me have to sit down and take a few slow breaths - lol
[01:34] <dooglus> BROKEN_LADDER: I believe you can just set the root window to have a picture on it without needing a program to be constantly running
[01:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> dooglus yup
[01:34] <HiddenWolf> chriss_, you will need to jump through some hoops to find something that's snappy on that pc
[01:34] <dooglus> nalioth: I think the panels are a separate program (called 'gnome-panel')
[01:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> dooglus i really wouldn't get rid of nautilus, but if you want to, go for it.
[01:34] <nalioth> dooglus: nautilus and gnome are like explorer and windows  (they both draw and run the interface)
[01:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> dooglus yup
[01:34] <HiddenWolf> chriss_, let alone work nicely for a small child.
[01:34] <nalioth> dooglus: i said usage of gnome panel
[01:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> nautilus is totally optional
[01:35] <dooglus> nalioth: explorer does a bit more, I think.  maybe nautilus+gnome-panel == explorer, or something
[01:35] <chriss_> Habbie: i heared from edubuntu but i dont think it will run on my computer
[01:35] <nalioth> dooglus: it's your box, have fun
[01:35] <Habbie> chriss_, I doubt that too
[01:35] <dooglus> nautilus is using 30Mb that I could be using for other stuff is all...
[01:36] <HiddenWolf> chriss_, even xfce/xubuntu won't run too happily. you might want to resort to more minimalistic graphical interfaces.
[01:37] <dooglus> does anyone understand the session management in GNOME?  I'd like to make a new session, and remove nautilus from it, so I don't mess up the working default session.  can I?
[01:37] <chriss_> i think i have to search distrowatch.com to find what i am looking for
[01:37] <Steinbeck1> ok...i cant get a gui up
[01:38] <Steinbeck1> it saying something is wrong with xserver
[01:38] <nalioth> Steinbeck1: did you choose VESA?
[01:38] <Steinbeck1> it chose everything for me
[01:38] <Steinbeck1> so i have no idea
[01:38] <nalioth> Steinbeck1: then in a console, do what ubotu says, and choose the VESA driver
[01:38] <nalioth> !xcfg
[01:38] <ubotu> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:38] <tshepo> i need somebody to help with installation of freemind
[01:38] <paolob> Hi guys! Anyone knows if openoffice 2.0 will be released for breeze? If so, when?
[01:39] <sexcopter8000m> hi, have a friend who might like to try ubuntu, but she's in halls of residence and you have to connect via a proxy server. how does that work in ubuntu?
[01:39] <tshepo> I am having issues with java actually
[01:39] <Steinbeck1> ok hold on i have to go to the other side of the house, so ill write it down
[01:39] <nalioth> paolob: most likely it will appear in backports
[01:40] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, k
[01:40] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: in your ~/.bashrc put "http_proxy=x.x.x.x:port"  <enter> "export http_proxy"
[01:40] <aftertaf> sexcopter8000m: and for the apt repositories, there is a file to cretae too
[01:40] <paolob> nalioth: any idea when will it be there?
[01:40] <tshepo> when i try to run freemind java gives me this message: java.awt.IllegalComponentStateException
[01:41] <marlun> Is there a application which reads pdf files and also have the feature to highlight text? I'm using Evince (which came with ubuntu) now and does not seem to be able to do it?
[01:41] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth, ok, so what does one put for the settings in "system -> admin -> networking"?
[01:41] <tshepo> then freemind never opens
[01:41] <tshepo> anyone out there with ideas?
[01:41] <holycow> wow, xorg is using 891 mb or virtual memory
[01:41] <holycow> *hmmmm*
[01:41] <Steinbeck1> ok command is entered
[01:41] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: i have no idea, let me look
[01:41] <sexcopter8000m> and nalioth, this proxy requires a login, where does that info go?
[01:41] <Steinbeck1> put my password in and at some screen
[01:42] <aftertaf> sexcopter8000m: shell need to create a file called apt.conf in /etc/apt
[01:42] <aftertaf> sexcopter8000m: and put this line (change where needed)   Acquire::http::Proxy "http://10.130.8.254:8090";
[01:42] <sexcopter8000m> ok, cool aftertaf
[01:42] <tshepo> where can i get java specialist to help me
[01:43] <tshepo> or is there a better group you can recommend
[01:43] <Nali0ths_dog> nalioth should know better then to run a gui
[01:43] <J_Element> any one can help with how to see my domain when im using file sharing for windows ?
[01:43] <kbrooks> tshepo: The java group, straight down the hall, right, and then right again at the deadend. Only joking ;)
[01:43] <Nali0ths_dog> sexcopter8000m, nalioth will be back in a moment, his network-admin crashed his computer
[01:44] <kbrooks> #java
[01:44] <Steinbeck1> im at a ubuntu configuration screen asking if i want to autodetect the videocard or manually do so
[01:44] <LathropWells> nalioth - hm - no idea you had a pet.. what is this?
[01:44] <sexcopter8000m> lol, ok Nali0ths_dog
[01:44] <ompaul> Nali0ths_dog, what are you barking on about :-)
[01:44] <Nali0ths_dog> Steinbeck1, just click through until you get to the driver section
[01:44] <sexcopter8000m> paolob, as far as i know breezy has OOo2.0....
[01:44] <dooglus> paolob: breezy was frozen a few months back.  openoffice 2.0 isn't in breezy.
[01:44] <kbrooks> Nali0ths_dog: you ARE nalioth
[01:44] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, when you get to the driver section choose VESA and just choose default for everything else
[01:44] <HiddenWolf> sexcopter8000m, no, 1.9.something
[01:45] <paolob> sexcopter8000m: it has RC1 or 2
[01:45] <ompaul> sexcopter8000m, the last of the betas but it might as well be 2.0 it is close but not the cigar
[01:45] <HiddenWolf> dooglus, there are test packages that'll move to dapper soon.
[01:45] <soundray> kbrooks, how did you work that out? :)
[01:45] <HiddenWolf> ompaul, not nearly close, I hope. :P
[01:45] <dooglus> HiddenWolf: sure.  but he was asking when it will be in breezy.
[01:45] <Steinbeck1> ok I chose vesa
[01:45] <Steinbeck1> and its asking for a pci bus identifier
[01:45] <ari123>  the pb of writing on ntfs partition affect also hard drive that are on a NAS ?
[01:45] <LathropWells> HiddenWolf - well don't just tease us - what packages???? - grin
[01:45] <kbrooks> soundray: he told me
[01:45] <kbrooks> Steinbeck1: next
[01:46] <HiddenWolf> dooglus, backporting generally happens when the stuff hits the devel distro. :P
[01:46] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: i only deal with console settings, usually, and have no clue about network-admin
[01:46] <mahangu> why isnt kismet in the breezy repos?
[01:46] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth, ok, no worries, heh
[01:46] <soundray> ari123, no, not usually.
[01:47] <borup> mahangu: it is'
[01:47] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: what i was typing when my machine shut off, was that google has many howtos on using proxies in linux
[01:47] <kbrooks> nalioth: are they that evil
[01:47] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: all the pertinent info on proxy user/pass and all that rot are in the how tos
[01:47] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, choose the default
[01:47] <nalioth> kbrooks: my console progs dont kill my box
[01:47] <holycow> i'm just curious, is it normal for xorg to end up using large amounts of virtual memory after several days of use?  it starts to really hit home when i'm swapping many windows as its paging stuff out, even though i have 512 megs of ram (its using 891 megs of virtual ram for some reason and 178 or resident which should be fine)?
[01:48] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, choose defaults for everything else in fact
[01:48] <ompaul> kbrooks, they are a step away from the command line that they could be
[01:48] <ompaul> kbrooks, that step can be very big
[01:48] <soundray> holycow, no, that isn't normal.
[01:49] <Steinbeck1> x is up:)
[01:49] <dtamas> how can I record mp3 from online radio stream under ubuntu?
[01:49] <kbrooks> ompaul: who is "they"
[01:49] <kbrooks> ?
[01:49] <holycow> soundray, i thought so, this is a phenomenon i've only seen on breezy
[01:50] <holycow> lets try this again
[01:50] <Steinbeck1> ive got the resolution at 1600x1200 how do i bring it down?
[01:50] <ompaul> kbrooks, they are the commands they could be :)
[01:50] <ompaul> kbrooks, guis are not the command lines they could be ...
[01:50] <LathropWells> CTRL+ALT+NUMKEY+
[01:50] <LathropWells> CTRL+ALT+NUMKEY-
[01:50] <soundray> holycow, try using another Xserver perhaps.
[01:50] <kbrooks> Steinbeck1: xrandr :) or system -> prefs -> screen resolution
[01:51] <nalioth> Steinbeck1: streamripper
[01:51] <Steinbeck1> ok thanks :)
[01:51] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, too easy ;)
[01:51] <nalioth> dtamas: streamripper
[01:51] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, as usual ati disappoints ;)
[01:51] <LathropWells> soundray - i think you are right i had that in ram problems in hoary with 3 desktops installed.
[01:52] <Steinbeck1> ok
[01:52] <Steinbeck1> how do i get my sound up and running
[01:52] <Steinbeck1> or check it?
[01:52] <gimmulf> !alsa
[01:52] <ubotu> well, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[01:52] <LathropWells> Steinbeck - right click on the speaker icon
[01:52] <holycow> much much better
[01:52] <holycow> it seems we have found a memory leak in xorg somewhere
[01:52] <holycow> *hmmm* how to track it down
[01:52] <LathropWells> Steinbeck1, likely it is muted
[01:52] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, speaker icon is top right corner
[01:52] <Steinbeck1> ok
[01:53] <soundray> holycow, first suspect is the Xserver.
[01:53] <hunger> Is there a way to force cpu freq to give me all the power it got?
[01:53] <nalioth> kbrooks: it never crashes unless i'm in the middle of something that took a lot of time to set up
[01:53] <soundray> hunger, yeah, uninstall it.
[01:53] <holycow> soundray, ah! alrighty, now that i have a starting point i can begin my googling/testing
[01:53] <holycow> thanks soundray
[01:53] <Steinbeck1> how do i unmute it?
[01:53] <Steinbeck1> it was all the way down
[01:53] <hunger> soundray: Normally I do want it:-)
[01:53] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, double click on it
[01:54] <soundray> holycow, good luck.
[01:54] <Steinbeck1> brought it up...but ihave no audio file to check it
[01:54] <LathropWells> nalioth - install a keylogger - j/k ;)
[01:54] <Steinbeck1> ok will do
[01:54] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, try testing with the System>>preferences>>multimedia selector
[01:54] <dtamas> nalioth: are there a GUI frontend?
[01:54] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, after you have made sure your volume settings are working
[01:54] <soundray> hunger, over here it switches to max frequency on demand. Isn't that the default behaviour?
[01:55] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, or turned up I should saay
[01:55] <nalioth> dtamas: xstreamripper, kstreamripper, probably some more
[01:55] <Steinbeck1> ok i hear static :)
[01:55] <Steinbeck1> ok ill check mutimedia selector
[01:56] <ari123> i can write to nas ntfs formated drive from linux *
[01:56] <hunger> soundray: It does most of the time... but not when qemu needs the power.
[01:57] <mrtwister> upgrading to breezy... strange message about locale       LANGUAGE = "en_LT:en",
[01:57] <mrtwister> i am in lithuania, but en_LT is impossible :)
[01:57] <Steinbeck1> ok
[01:57] <Steinbeck1> esd works..but alsa dosent
[01:58] <Steinbeck1> and i also checked video test and they didnt work
[01:58] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, come back to that later :)
[01:58] <soundray> hunger, you can temporarily disable freq scaling with /etc/init.d/cpufreq stop .
[01:58] <hunger> soundray: Ah! adding "-n" to the OPTIONS in /etc/default/powernowd fixes it:-)
[01:58] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, you have a lot of configuration left to do yet with other stuff :)
[01:59] <Steinbeck1> yes
[01:59] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Steinbeck1 about sound
[01:59] <hunger> soundray: qemu runs way faster with 2.1GHz then with 400MHz;-)
[01:59] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, you got internet up straight away?
[01:59] <Steinbeck1> i need a router
[01:59] <soundray> hunger, okay, you're on powernowd, that's good...
[01:59] <Steinbeck1> its not hooked up yet
[01:59] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, k
[01:59] <mustard5> I would work on internet connection
[01:59] <Steinbeck1> do i need to be connected?
[02:00] <LathropWells> how do you measure your CPU Frequency?
[02:00] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, you using wifi?
[02:00] <Steinbeck1> not yet
[02:00] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, no wifi card in yet?
[02:00] <hunger> LathropWells: There are applets for that in both Gnome and kde (somewhat hidden there).
[02:00] <Steinbeck1> no not yet
[02:00] <soundray> LathropWells, there's a CPU freq. monitor for the panel.
[02:00] <Steinbeck1> this computer is hooked up the cable modem and i have no router
[02:00] <LathropWells> Ah - ok. - Thank You
[02:00] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, k, well most of the stuff you need to get your system up and running is online
[02:01] <Steinbeck1> ah ok...i guess ill tear everything down then
[02:01] <soundray> LathropWells, but real men do 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' I guess.
[02:01] <ompaul> LathropWells,  cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz
[02:01] <Steinbeck1> how do i shut it down?
[02:01] <Steinbeck1> same?
[02:01] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, System>>Log out
[02:01] <hunger> soundray: It's in /sys nowadays IIRC:-)
[02:02] <fbest> Hi, I'm encountering a kernel panic when attempting to install 5.04, 5.10 and the latest Drake as well - my machine has a DPT i2o SCSI RAID controller card in it, and I seem to be encountering the same error reported in this bugzilla bug report: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17897 ...any suggestions on how to get around this? From what I gather it loads a DPT driver and an i2o driver and they clash with each other brutally
[02:02] <Steinbeck1> will it be a problem if i use my 21 inch monitor thats already on this desk?
[02:02] <LathropWells> soundray -thats cool. - Thanks
[02:02] <winston> help my Ubuntu wont start after login and I dont know how to debug
[02:02] <LathropWells> Ompaul guru
[02:02] <Steinbeck1> i dont really feel like tossing monitors around
[02:02] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, you got me on that one :)
[02:02] <mustard5> Nalioth, can Steinbeck1 switch monitors easily?
[02:03] <krischan> Hi. I am looking for applications to bulk rename files. The only graphical solution seems to be Krename. Does anybody know good alternatives?
[02:03] <LathropWells> Steinbeck - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is easy enough. - just run it after the switch.
[02:04] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, there you go
[02:04] <Steinbeck1> ok will do
[02:04] <ompaul> LathropWells, I am far from a guru, but I have a torch :-) so let me remove some gloom :)
[02:04] <hunger> krischan: mmv works great for me... no GUI though.
[02:04] <Steinbeck1> ill be back in a minute
[02:04] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, k
[02:04] <soundray> krischan, 'for i in * ; do something ; done'
[02:04] <hunger> soundray: Wow! qemu really rocks now that it got 5times the cpu freq:-)
[02:04] <winston> Cant start X after login on Breezy, can anyone help me debug
[02:04] <krischan> hunger: what can mmv do?
[02:05] <hunger> krischan: mass move files.
[02:05] <soundray> hunger, I'm not surprised.
[02:05] <krischan> soundray: of course, do-it-yourself is always a solution. But I'm interested to know if there's a decent application, like the bulk rename tool of Total Commander (Windows).
[02:06] <hunger> How do I set a http-proxy for apt?
[02:06] <LathropWells> winston - likely the answer is in the command  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    - i will help where i can.
[02:06] <mustard5> hunger, I'll show you a link one tick
[02:06] <LathropWells> winston from Orwell's 1984?
[02:07] <hunger> mustard5: Thanks!
[02:07] <soundray> krischan, guess I'm old fashioned that way, but I've come to trust my bash one-liners...
[02:07] <mustard5> hunger, down the bottom of the page http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[02:07] <winston> lathroWells ok will try, yes from the novel and im adapting it to comic book using my ubuntu
[02:07] <oxigen> hi
[02:07] <oxigen> my gnome panel died :(
[02:08] <fbest> no experience with the i2o issue?
[02:08] <oxigen> am I alone with this problem?
[02:08] <LathropWells> winston - reading the link might be faster than my typing. give ubotu a chance to earn his keep.
[02:08] <LathropWells> !display
[02:08] <ubotu> [display]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto or ask !Resolution
[02:08] <oxigen> last update seems fatal
[02:08] <hunger> mustard5: Hmmm. I checked the apt.conf man page. It lists a config file entry to do it there. Well, if the env-var works, I'll stick with that.
[02:08] <krischan> soundray: for you and me, programming a bash script is an option, but not for the ordinary user. I am curious to know if there already exists a decent app for this particular problem.
[02:09] <mustard5> hunger, I have searched for the apt.conf file and couldnt find it
[02:09] <mustard5> hunger, do you have one in /etc/apt?
[02:10] <oxigen> it was bad idea to upgrade to breezy I think...
[02:10] <oxigen> old debian bugs are on the way, or something ... :(
[02:10] <mustard5> oxigne, what exactly died in your gnome panel?
[02:11] <oxigen> mustard5: gnome panel
[02:11] <winston> lathroWells ok damned still same prob
[02:11] <LathropWells> winston - What do you see?
[02:11] <oxigen> mustard5: I can not get konsole
[02:11] <hunger> mustard5: It should go into /etc/apt/apt.conf.
[02:11] <winston> lathroWells I tried even reinstalling but ubuntu keeps the configs even when formating
[02:11] <mustard5> oxigen, you on kde?
[02:11] <oxigen> mustard5: and the rest of the programs
[02:12] <hunger> mustard5: I created it... but the http proxy setting is ignored.
[02:12] <mustard5> oxigen, forget I said that
[02:12] <hunger> mustard5: apt-config dump lists it, so the setting should work.
[02:12] <mustard5> hunger did you close your terminal?
[02:12] <winston> well I went trhough the reconfiguration and am back to same prob...
[02:12] <gardin> im using the radeon driver supplied by X.org, and i'm trying to get Xinerama to work, i get the same picture on both monitors, except only one of them show the mouse, in Xorg.0.log it says that X finds my primary monitor on DVI, and my sec on VGA, whats wrong? is there any good tutorial?
[02:12] <mustard5> hunger, oh you are talking about apt-conf?
[02:12] <mustard5> hunger, soz
[02:12] <J_Element> any one can help me about mouting my drives & cd rom
[02:12] <soundray> krischan, you're implying something about non-DAU solutions not being decent?
[02:13] <winston> LathropWells I get a window telling me that my session lasted less than 10 seconds
[02:13] <hunger> mustard5: I was. Using http_proxy env var now as suggested by the howto you pointed out to me.
[02:13] <LathropWells> winston - where i got tripped up was in the bus ID# and then later with enabling "Frame Buffer" -
[02:13] <soundray> krischan, sorry, don't mean to turn this into a flamewar.
[02:13] <Astxist> took me awhile to get mp3s playing though
[02:13] <gardin> J_Element: mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom, if hdc is your cdrom
[02:13] <oxigen> I have working breezy mirror on other disk, can I repair broken breezy that way?
[02:13] <mustard5> hunger, I played with my system for ages before I found out how to do it :)
[02:13] <mustard5> hunger, I added that to the guide ;)
[02:13] <winston> LathropWells when i view detail i see xsession setup with (...)
[02:13] <LathropWells> winston read the debug report offered it will give you some good info.
[02:13] <hunger> mustard5: Thanks:-)
[02:13] <soundray> krischan, I don't have to look after any users, so I guess that's lucky.
[02:14] <J_Element> dont get it
[02:14] <fbest> any suggestions on where to head next for i2o expertise??
[02:14] <krischan> soundray: no problem, neither do I.
[02:14] <mustard5> hunger I was so pleased to see it being used hehehe ;)
[02:14] <hunger> mustard5: That setting works for wget as well by the way (and some other console webbrowsers).
[02:14] <jamie> ok im up
[02:14] <J_Element> i cant see my partitions from windows
[02:14] <mustard5> hunger, k
[02:14] <J_Element> u get my point ?
[02:14] <hunger> mustard5: even though it is underdocumented in wget's man page as well;-)
[02:14] <mustard5> hunger, :)
[02:15] <mahangu> "Couldn't stat source package list http://lk.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages"
[02:15] <mahangu> i also cant seem to find kismet
[02:15] <LathropWells> J_Element - give ubotu's link a peek winmac_fstab - will find and mount all available partitions automatically.
[02:15] <LathropWells> !ntfs
[02:15] <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:15] <J_Element> LathropWells,  ?
[02:15] <hunger> OK, back to playing with xen...
[02:16] <mahangu> !repos
[02:16] <ubotu> well, repos is How to add repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[02:16] <J_Element> how do i do that
[02:16] <jamie> ubotu, if you dont mind can you send me that link so i can get alsa up?
[02:16] <ubotu> Not a clue, jamie
[02:16] <winston> LathropWells /etc/gdm.PreSession/Default/: running: /usr/bin/x11/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utump -x >/var/lib/gdm/ :0.Xservers> -h >> -l >:0> >winston>
[02:16] <LathropWells> J_Element - winmac_fstab.sh is a very nice script that will find and enable all parttions auto matically.
[02:16] <J_Element> yeah where can i get that
[02:17] <winston> LathropWells > are supposed to be quotes
[02:17] <Steinbeck1> forgot to change my name :)
[02:17] <fbest> ...so total NADA on i2o issues?
[02:17] <winston> I cant make any sense out of this
[02:17] <sianis> hi all!
[02:17] <sianis> is there an nVidia guru?
[02:17] <LathropWells> winston - i have don't know enough to help. - maybe someoine has the answer.
[02:18] <winston> ok I have to get to work anyways thanks
[02:18] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, welcome back :)
[02:18] <winston> will try later
[02:18] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, you online on ubuntu?
[02:18] <Steinbeck1> for a minute there i didnt think i could get my ethernet up
[02:18] <Steinbeck1> but yea i got it
[02:18] <Steinbeck1> had to activate eth0
[02:18] <J_Element> LathropWells,  where do i get it ?
[02:18] <mustard5> ah ok, you got it working on ubuntu on your own?
[02:18] <sianis> i install factory nVidia driver for my 6600 GT
[02:19] <Steinbeck1> yea
[02:19] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, well done :)
[02:19] <LathropWells> winston - dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is the tol to use.
[02:19] <sianis> when boot X i see the nVidia logo
[02:19] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, ok you probably want to install software now?
[02:19] <sianis> and i can start the glxgears
[02:19] <Steinbeck1> well fix alsa
[02:19] <Steinbeck1> yea
[02:19] <Steinbeck1> drivers first:)
[02:19] <Steinbeck1> if it is a driver?
[02:19] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, hmm..I'm not sure aobut how to proceed with alsa
[02:19] <LathropWells> J_Elelment - follow the link ubotu has or google Seveas  winmac_fstab
[02:20] <sianis> but the gears move slow, and program not report the FPS
[02:20] <Habbie> sianis, glxgears -printfps
[02:20] <sianis> how can I test my VGA card ?
[02:20] <oxigen> I found the same problem with possible solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14853
[02:20] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, no it won't be a driver I dont think..drivers are built into the kernel
[02:20] <winston> LathropWells thanks will try it
[02:20] <LathropWells> tell J_Element about !ntfs
[02:20] <Steinbeck1> yea i didnt think so
[02:20] <LathropWells> ubotu tell J_Element about !ntfs
[02:20] <J_Element> lol
[02:20] <soundray> sianis, it's probably an aliasing effect.
[02:20] <Steinbeck1> is alsa needed for music?
[02:20] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, its a configuration issue of some kind
[02:20] <sianis> Habbie:  thx .... 32972 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6594.219 FPS
[02:20] <sianis> 34366 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6873.105 FPS
[02:20] <J_Element> no one told me any thing :D
[02:20] <sianis> is it good?
[02:20] <Steinbeck1> or will esd work?
[02:20] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, alsa will let you play two devices at once
[02:21] <Steinbeck1> ahh to programs?
[02:21] <Steinbeck1> two(*
[02:21] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, esd will work for single app running the sound device
[02:21] <paolob> Guys, I found the openoffice2 packages for breeze, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80392
[02:21] <soundray> sianis, it's wonderful. You'll have great fun with tuxracer :)
[02:21] <sianis> i thing it's works fine
[02:21] <Steinbeck1> why is alsa not installed default?
[02:21] <sianis> soundray:  thx i try it! :)
[02:21] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, for the most compatibility
[02:21] <Steinbeck1> gotcha
[02:21] <LathropWells> Steinbeck Alsa is installed by default.
[02:22] <Steinbeck1> just not configured?
[02:22] <sianis> 63661 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12732.101 FPS i think it was good buy , i change from ATI 9600 :)
[02:22] <LathropWells> Steinbeck - it should be. - i had no problems
[02:22] <LathropWells> AC97 sound
[02:22] <Steinbeck1> let me get the error for you real quick
[02:22] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, yeah, its sets up with ESD and OSS by default in config
[02:22] <Steinbeck1> i use soundblaster 24bit live
[02:23] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, eewwww,,, that rings a bell
[02:23] <LathropWells> Steinbeck - Your machine makes me jealous - lol
[02:23] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, I might do a search on the forums for 24bit soundblaster, I have read something about them
[02:23] <Steinbeck1> well dont ask me about the one i was using before:)
[02:24] <topyli> mustard5: esd lets you play multiple sounds at once. that's what sound servers are for! it's another matter that not all apps are esd-aware
[02:24] <Steinbeck1> its running on a 4800x2
[02:24] <J_Element> LathropWells,  i got the script how do i use it ?
[02:24] <Steinbeck1> it says it failed to construct test pipeline for ALSA
[02:24] <mustard5> topyli, ah ok..thanks :)
[02:25] <Steinbeck1> so i dont need alsa?
[02:25] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, personally I would set them both to ALSA regardless
[02:25] <Steinbeck1> ok
[02:25] <LathropWells> J_Elelment - you can right click and set the permissions as Executable or you can type "chmod +x winmac_fstab.sh" in the terminal than execute it.   .sh is important.
[02:26] <topyli> mustard5: so basically, gnome users set up esd and then tweak it for two weeks to get all their games and stuff to work :)
[02:26] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, I actually turn off the sound server in system>>preferences>>sound  as it gives me problems, you might not have the same issue though
[02:27] <ceej> how can i get into ~/.wine using the ubuntu desktop?
[02:27] <ceej> never mind lol
[02:27] <Dany2> can somebody translate me what is on http://accessrunner.sourceforge.net/index.shtml
[02:28] <Dany2> ?
[02:28] <LathropWells> ceej - CTRL+H  will show hidden files in your /home/username  dir
[02:28] <oxigen> deleting file .recently-used in home solved problem with gnome panel crash! :) I like big ubuntu community!
[02:28] <sianis> thanks the help Ubuntu Team
[02:28] <sianis> bye bye
[02:28] <Steinbeck1> the sound is to loud even when i turn the volume down is much as i can
[02:28] <ceej> LathropWells: :)
[02:28] <LathropWells> Take cianis see you soon.
[02:28] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, double click on the sound icon and open up the more advanced configuring tool
[02:28] <LathropWells> ilol i stil canned spell
[02:29] <J_Element> LathropWells, chmod: cannot access `winmac_fstab.sh': No such file or directory
[02:29] <Steinbeck1> ok thats better
[02:30] <nalioth> LathropWells: make sure you are in the same dir as the winmac_fstab
[02:30] <topyli> Steinbeck1: turn down your speaker volume ;)
[02:30] <LathropWells> lol - oops i should of said "sudo chmod +x" - you can right click and use the gui too. either way.
[02:30] <Steinbeck1> yes i just figured that out:)
[02:30] <Dany2> can somebody help me installing accessrunner driver 4 modem adsl usb??
[02:30] <DevinT> Mark Shuttleworth is my fucking hero
[02:31] <Steinbeck1> what do i need to do to get alsa configured?
[02:31] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, I would say its done personally
[02:31] <Steinbeck1> ok good
[02:31] <Steinbeck1> hmm whats a good p2p so i can download music
[02:31] <LathropWells> J_Element - how is it going now?
[02:32] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, well there are a few steps to complete before we do that :)
[02:32] <Steinbeck1> ok
[02:32] <J_Element> not so good
[02:32] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, open up synaptic package manager in System>>Admin>>
[02:32] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, put your user password in
[02:32] <ompaul> DevinT, have you read this http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view
[02:32] <J_Element> so i should type this in the terminal  sudo chmod +x
[02:33] <LathropWells> J_Element - Okay, let me know what you are seeing.
[02:33] <Dany2> can somebody help me installing accessrunner driver 4 modem adsl usb??
[02:33] <J_Element> chmod: too few arguments Try `chmod --help' for more information.
[02:33] <Steinbeck1> ok
[02:33] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Steinbeck1 about synaptic
[02:33] <Steinbeck1> its up
[02:33] <DevinT> ompaul: Yes.
[02:33] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, find the PM from ubotu about synaptic
[02:33] <Steinbeck1> ok
[02:33] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Steinbeck1 about repositories
[02:34] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, read how to add extra repositories
[02:34] <DevinT> ompaul: why do you ask?
[02:34] <Steinbeck1> ok will do
[02:34] <mustard5> ubotu, from the second message from ubotu
[02:34] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, mustard5
[02:34] <mustard5> doh
[02:34] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, when you have them all enabled and working we can start downloading stuff
[02:35] <zion115> HI
[02:35] <ompaul> DevinT, nothing much just the language you used to declare him a hero
[02:35] <sianis> re
[02:35] <zion115> Hey can any1 tell me which debugger is running on ubuntu kde ?
[02:36] <J_Element> LathropWells,  can i talk to u in ur prvt window
[02:36] <sianis> i have an other question
[02:36] <DevinT> ompaul: hrm you're right. i'm sorry about that
[02:36] <J_Element> perhaps u can help me better ?
[02:36] <LathropWells> J_Element - once the file is mad executable you can use it by clicking on it. - Ubuntu puts shortcuts for all of your drives and partitions on the desktop.
[02:36] <sianis> i did a ext2 partition
[02:36] <zion115> any1?
[02:36] <J_Element> yeah but i didnt see the shortcuts
[02:36] <sianis> how can i mount it up with fstab, how all user can be read and write it?
[02:37] <J_Element> it gave me an option to run in terminal
[02:37] <J_Element> and i said yes
[02:37] <LathropWells> J_Element - likely better to stay in channel more people more ideas for a solution.
[02:37] <J_Element> and it didnt show me the drives
[02:38] <ompaul> DevinT, i don't get offended that easily but you could consider signing it
[02:38] <LathropWells> J_Element - hm - well, you can take a peek at what is on the disk the old fashioned way. please use fdisk with care   "sudo fdisk -l" that is l=list
[02:39] <J_Element> root@Jabak:/home/jabak # /dev/hda1 bash: /dev/hda1: Permission denied
[02:40] <ompaul> J_Element, stick sudo in front of it
[02:40] <ompaul> J_Element, stick sudo in front of it  >> sudo fdisk -l <<
[02:40] <bob2> er
[02:40] <mustard5> looks like he is in root already
[02:40] <Steinbeck1> what is adept?
[02:40] <ompaul> ohh
[02:41] <J_Element> it showed me the partitions
[02:41] <J_Element> how do i mount them bro ?
[02:41] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, adept is a package manager for kde I believe
[02:42] <ompaul> adept  This package contains the GUI PM based on the libapt-front API
[02:42] <ompaul>  and KDE libraries. Currently beta version.
[02:42] <ompaul> J_Element, paste the result in paste.ubuntulinux.nl and we can help more
[02:42] <LathropWells> J_Element sudo mount -t VFAT -o ro /dev/hda1 /media/hda1   - peek at the winmac file it will have a few examples
[02:42] <LathropWells> even a few for macintoshes
[02:43] <deFrysk> adept is an overconfigurable package manager
[02:43] <zion115> hello
[02:43] <mustard5> welcome zion115
[02:44] <zion115> im trying to run call of duty multi player works fine but sp says thers a debugger running ???
[02:44] <Steinbeck1> ok im getting an error when adding some lines into the repositories
[02:44] <LathropWells> ompaul - lol - see you in a bit. - can ya bring me a sandwich?
[02:44] <Steinbeck1> can i post it?
[02:44] <nalioth> Steinbeck1: what kind of errors?
[02:44] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, no
[02:44] <nalioth> Steinbeck1: use a pastebin
[02:44] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, use the pastebin
[02:44] <nalioth> !paste
[02:44] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:44] <deFrysk> Steinbeck1, only in pastebin
[02:44] <LathropWells> Steinbeck try http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[02:44] <LathropWells> !paste
[02:45] <zion115> mustard5 you know of a debugger running in background of ubuntu KDE?
[02:45] <mustard5> zion115, no sorry
[02:45] <zion115> ok thnx anyway
[02:45] <mustard5> :)
[02:45] <LathropWells> ubotu tell Steinbeck about flood
[02:46] <LathropWells> lol @ deFrysk
[02:46] <Steinbeck1> ok i used patebin
[02:46] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, show us the URL
[02:46] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, after you submit
[02:47] <deFrysk> Steinbeck1, now give us the url ;)
[02:47] <Steinbeck1> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/428967
[02:47] <LathropWells> my ESP is hindered by a tinfoil hat.
[02:47] <mustard5> thanks
[02:47] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, something radically wrong with your sources.list :)
[02:47] <Steinbeck1> lol
[02:48] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, you seem to have added a url?
[02:48] <pl_ice> hi ya
[02:48] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, ok..lets do this the easy way
[02:48] <Steinbeck1> probally i added all the lines in "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto"
[02:48] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, ok can you open up a terminal?
[02:49] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, its in applications>>accessories
[02:49] <Steinbeck1> yea i got a terminal up
[02:49] <pl_ice> guys, anyone knows how i can check mail from cli ? pop3 ...
[02:49] <mustard5> ok enter this command   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:50] <Steinbeck1> ok a document popped up
[02:50] <Steinbeck1> sources.list
[02:50] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, it has stuff in it?
[02:50] <LathropWells> Steinbeck i am guessing there is extra white space/linefeed  in your apt sources list  - restore your backed up list and add each and test them one at a time.
[02:50] <Steinbeck1> yes
[02:50] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, ok go to this link in your browser http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[02:50] <zion115> hello again
[02:50] <LathropWells> add a line at a time and tst each one singly as you add it.
[02:51] <Steinbeck1> ok
[02:51] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, take the contents of that link and copy it over the top of your old sources.list
[02:51] <Steinbeck1> do i delete the current one?
[02:51] <pl_ice> anyone ? ...
[02:51] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, just the sources.list you see in the box
[02:51] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, yep  paste it over the other completely replacing it
[02:51] <zion115> probably a stupid question but if i run 1024 X 768 is the 1024 the width or the height of my screen?
[02:52] <LathropWells> << - admits to linux wimpdom for using synaptic to manage his apt sources list.
[02:52] <Steinbeck1> ok done
[02:52] <gardin> zion115: width
[02:52] <zion115> thanx
[02:52] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, save an close gedit
[02:52] <gardin> np
[02:53] <Steinbeck1> its worse now
[02:53] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, now type this command in terminal     sudo apt-get update
[02:53] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, you gotta wait for the next step ;)
[02:54] <Steinbeck1> ok its updating
[02:54] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, k
[02:54] <Steinbeck1> sorry
[02:54] <Steinbeck1> im a newb..ha
[02:54] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, close synaptic btw
[02:54] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, as synaptic is a front-end gui for apt-get
[02:54] <pl_ice> guys, anyone knows how i can check mail from cli ? pop3 ...
[02:54] <Steinbeck1> ok i got 2 lines of errors
[02:54] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, so you have to use either on or the other
[02:55] <Steinbeck1> do i need to re do it?
[02:55] <mustard5> lock file?
[02:55] <Steinbeck1> yea
[02:55] <gardin> will ubuntu + gnome work well on a 600Mhz p3 320MB laptop? since i like it's great on my other computer:D
[02:55] <mustard5> close synaptic and repeat the sudo apt-get update
[02:55] <Steinbeck1> i redid it
[02:55] <Habbie> gardin, that should do
[02:55] <Steinbeck1> done
[02:55] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, yeah one locks the other out
[02:56] <Steinbeck1> updating finished
[02:56] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, k
[02:56] <mustard5> now you can open up synaptic again
[02:56] <Steinbeck1> linux isnt to shabby
[02:56] <gardin> Habbie: yea, but i want it to be pretty quick to use, not too long loads and so :P
[02:56] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, it has the complete package list now
[02:56] <Habbie> gardin, try it :)
[02:56] <LathropWells> Steinbeck1, - here is mine should you need it.    http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/428981
[02:56] <Habbie> gardin, memory is most important and 320meg sounds doable
[02:56] <gardin> yea, i think so
[02:56] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, use the search function in synaptic to find stuff
[02:57] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, a peer to peer program to use might be gtk-gnutella or amule
[02:57] <Steinbeck1> it automatically finds it?
[02:57] <Steinbeck1> it automatically finds programs?
[02:57] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, yeah the sources.list that you updated with has now informed synaptic of the 17000 packages available
[02:57] <ookami> is there something similar to windows samurize (or linux karamba) for gnome?
[02:57] <Steinbeck1> wow that is amazing
[02:57] <pl_ice> what's a console's progrm to check mail? ...
[02:57] <djk_> how do i delete a ppp connection created with pppoeconf?
[02:57] <bob2> it's not amazing
[02:58] <bob2> it's ten years of hard work by Debian people
[02:58] <LathropWells> Steinbeck1, - If 17,000 apps  in Synaptic aren't enough check out sourceforge for 100,000 active projects
[02:58] <bob2> djk_: it doesn't let you delete from the list?
[02:58] <djk_> bob2: which list?
[02:58] <LathropWells> bob2 - Good Morning :)
[02:58] <bob2> LathropWells: hiya
[02:58] <Steinbeck1> ok amule is getting 2 different results
[02:59] <Steinbeck1> amule, and amule-utils
[02:59] <Steinbeck1> which do i download?
[02:59] <bob2> hm, there is no list
[02:59] <mustard5> amule is the main package Steinbeck1
[02:59] <bob2> Steinbeck1: read the package descrtipions to see
[02:59] <LathropWells> Steinbeck - amule or "When a good computer goes bad.." - lol
[02:59] <ookami> is there something like Karamba (kde) for gnome?
[02:59] <bob2> Steinbeck1: also, you can probably guess one is the main package, and one contains utilities
[02:59] <bob2> ookami: gdesklets
[02:59] <bob2> which, afaik, karambda is based on
[03:00] <ookami> thanks bob2. I will look into that.
[03:00] <LathropWells> amule "When internet apps attack!...
[03:00] <Steinbeck1> ok thanks
[03:00] <Steinbeck1> yea i recognize the hard work that everybody must put in this os and its apps
[03:00] <Steinbeck1> it really is amazing
[03:01] <djk_> bob2: i'd like to use my connection on someone elses computer since mine is faster, thus i'd like to know how to delete it afterwards.
[03:01] <bob2> djk_: good point, I guess you need to delete the files from /etc/pppd manually
[03:02] <LathropWells> bob2 - Do you think AMD64 support will be a lot better with the next release in April?
[03:02] <djk_> bob2: yea i'd guess so too, but being sure would be splendid
[03:02] <bob2> LathropWells: what isn't supported?
[03:02] <bob2> djk_: yeah, sorry, don't know
[03:03] <djk_> bob2: no worries, you're the first to answer at all ;)
[03:03] <LathropWells> bob2 - it just isn't as smooth an installllllas the 32 bit instal.
[03:03] <bob2> LathropWells: e.g.?
[03:03] <LathropWells> Ask Steinbeck.
[03:04] <Steinbeck1> im fine with x32
[03:04] <Steinbeck1> its running well
[03:05] <Steinbeck1> well for the first 5 minutes of me using it
[03:05] <bob2> aside from binary-only crud and openoffice, I'm not aware of anything that doesn't run on amd64
[03:06] <djk_> bob2: java plugins ;)
[03:06] <Steinbeck1> how do i video up and running?
[03:06] <dooglus> djk_: that sounds like binary-only crud to me.  flash too.
[03:06] <bob2> that falls under both "binary-only crud" AND "openoffice"
[03:06] <bob2> Steinbeck1: what do you mean?
[03:06] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, video as in avi's and mpegs? or DVD?
[03:06] <Steinbeck1> everything...well
[03:06] <djk_> bob2: ah, wasn't sure what you included in binary-only crud
[03:07] <Steinbeck1> ive used the test
[03:07] <kismet> Hi All! Can someone help to you update-alternatives?
[03:07] <Steinbeck1> and it failed..the same i used to test esd
[03:07] <kismet> Hi All! Can someone help to use update-alternatives?
[03:07] <Steinbeck1> multimedia selector
[03:07] <bob2> Steinbeck1: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:07] <bob2> kismet: just ask your question...
[03:07] <dooglus> djk_: binary-only crud is crud where the source code isn't available.
[03:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Steinbeck1 about sound
[03:07] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, check the link that bob2 gave you for video stuff
[03:07] <nalioth> Steinbeck1: ubotu has been sending you neat info
[03:08] <djk_> dooglus: i see..
[03:08] <penguinzdr> people, how do you think: what's better - gnome or kde?
[03:08] <Renski> gnome
[03:08] <djk_> kde
[03:08] <kismet> I'm try to configure update-alternatives so that I can swap between gij-4.0 and  SUN's java...
[03:08] <LathropWells> !ubotu tell Steinbeck1 about restrictedformats
[03:08] <ookami> penguinzdr, personally, i have become more comfortable with gnome.
[03:08] <noxmortis> hi, who can i find a german suporter or chat for ubuntu sound problems?
[03:08] <dooglus> kismet: to chose your default editor, run "sudo update-alternatives --config editor" for example
[03:08] <djk_> !de
[03:08] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[03:09] <noxmortis> danke
[03:09] <penguinzdr> i'm with gnome, now i'm downlaoding kubuntu-desktop to see what's bette
[03:09] <djk_> bitte
[03:09] <meheren> can somone tell me how to mount a floppy drive in breezy?
[03:09] <penguinzdr> !bg
[03:09] <ubotu> penguinzdr: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:09] <kismet> ..I know how to use update-alternativs with --config but I'd like to add a line to the alternatives that I can choose
[03:09] <dooglus> kismet: install the package and the line will appear
[03:10] <penguinzdr> !bulgaria
[03:10] <ubotu> No idea, penguinzdr
[03:10] <meheren> anyone no how  to mount a floppy in breezy
[03:10] <meheren> mount floppy does not work
[03:10] <kismet> the problem is that I want to do that with program that are not packaged... for example I want to do that with SUN JDK and other program
[03:10] <dooglus> meheren: I don't have a floppy drive, but I guess you "sudo mount <floppy-device> <floppy-mount-point>"
[03:10] <nalioth> penguinzdr: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
[03:10] <Steinbeck1> ok thank you
[03:11] <meheren> ok
[03:11] <Steinbeck1> currently reading
[03:11] <nalioth> penguinzdr: please quit !guessing
[03:11] <bob2> kismet: you can install your own alternatives, --install
[03:11] <penguinzdr> ok, nalioth
[03:11] <Steinbeck1> how do i know which gui im using?
[03:11] <Steinbeck1> nevermind
[03:11] <Steinbeck1> i found it
[03:11] <meheren> how do i no the device?
[03:11] <penguinzdr> i am bulgarian and i want to know where is the ubuntu-bg channel
[03:11] <dooglus> Steinbeck1: if it has a "Start" button in the bottom left, it's probably Windows
[03:12] <meheren> dooglus: what should i put for device and mount point?
[03:13] <dooglus> meheren: you can use any directory you like for the mount point.  maybe /media/floppy would be a good choice.  if it doesn't exist, create it with "sudo mkdir /media/floppy"
[03:13] <nalioth> penguinzdr: have you tried #ubuntu-bg?
[03:13] <dooglus> meheren: for the device, you need to find which device in /dev/... corresponds to your floppy drive.  I don't know what that would be.  /dev/fda perhaps?  that's a guess
[03:13] <LathropWells> mehren - sudo fdisk -l     l=list will give you info about your drives and partitions.  be VERY careful with the fdisk command
[03:13] <penguinzdr> nalioth: lets try
[03:13] <meheren> ok thx
[03:14] <kismet> bob2: can yuo write an example that show how can I use update-alternatives --install
[03:14] <meheren> ok
[03:14] <dooglus> meheren: do you have a directory /dev/floppy/ ?
[03:14] <meheren> yep
[03:14] <penguinzdr> nalioth: no one is on #ubuntu-bg
[03:14] <dooglus> meheren: what's in it?
[03:14] <LathropWells> penguinzdr - we will do what we can here.
[03:14] <kismet> ..beacuse I read the man update-alternatives but I don't understand what are genname, symlink, altern
[03:14] <nalioth> penguinzdr: then i guess you're stuck with us
[03:15] <penguinzdr> :(
[03:15] <penguinzdr> i will try with ubuntu channel on UniBG
[03:15] <LathropWells> my english is pretty bad my german is non existent.
[03:15] <bob2> kismet: sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator x-terminal-emulator /usr/bin/xterm 0
[03:16] <penguinzdr> yes!
[03:16] <LathropWells> Wow i am always impressed. - linux is tough if english is your first language. - if it is your second.. amazing
[03:16] <meheren> dooglus it says u must specify the  file system type
[03:16] <dooglus> meheren: I guess /dev/floppy/0 is your floppy device if it exists
[03:16] <meheren> ?
[03:17] <dooglus> meheren: oh, does it?  what if you put a "-t auto" after the "mount" word?
[03:17] <kismet> THANK YOU!!!!
[03:17] <meheren> i get no command back
[03:17] <pusling> a chrooted scponly-shell - is there some info on that anywhere ? (auth.log says couldn't chroot to /home/user)
[03:17] <kismet> That worked for me :)
[03:17] <dooglus> meheren: you get a prompt back, but no output?
[03:18] <meheren> yep
[03:18] <dooglus> meheren: so it worked...  look in /media/floppy
[03:18] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, you kicking butt on linux now? ;)
[03:18] <dooglus> meheren: (or wherever you told it to mount to)
[03:18] <meheren> dooglus:ok thx!
[03:18] <meheren> media floopy
[03:18] <kismet> bob2 I think that the line that you wrote to me should be add to the man-pages of the command to avoid other people ask the same things....
[03:18] <meheren> floppy
[03:18] <bob2> pusling: why not just use scponly?
[03:18] <bob2> kismet: hah
[03:19] <bob2> kismet: I hink I ended up copying that from /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[03:19] <Steinbeck1> mustard5, just dowloading java, different codecs, etc
[03:19] <dooglus> meheren: "sudo umount /media floppy" will un-mount the floppy and let you eject it.  until you unmount it, it's possible that data still needs writing to the disk.  you can corrupt the disk if you eject without unmounting.
[03:19] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, ah ok..deep into the restricted formats how to I see, good work :)
[03:19] <Steinbeck1> im glad they have vlc
[03:19] <dooglus> meheren: note that the umount command isn't uNmount
[03:19] <Steinbeck1> i used to use it all the time on windows
[03:19] <meheren> ok
[03:19] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, :)
[03:19] <meheren> thx
[03:20] <LathropWells> pusling - http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/428997  - This may help. at leas i hope so.
[03:20] <Steinbeck1> amule is very slow though
[03:20] <Steinbeck1> might be the server though
[03:21] <meheren> dooglus: nothing is there under floppy0
[03:21] <dooglus> meheren: it's odd that you had to specify "-t auto".  The man page for mount says "If no -t option is given, or if  the  auto  type  is  specified, mount will try
[03:21] <dooglus> to guess the desired type." - that makes it sound like the "-t auto" is the default behaviour, doesn't it?
[03:21] <kismet> bob2 I didn't know that /var/lib/dpkg/info contain the information related to installation and removal script of the packages!!!
[03:22] <pusling> bob2: in the chrooted-edetion, people cannot write to /tmp and read files outside ~
[03:22] <bob2> kismet: it's all in there
[03:22] <dooglus> meheren: what command did you use to mount the floppy?
[03:22] <bob2> pusling: oh, duh me
[03:22] <meheren> sudo -t auto
[03:22] <kismet> That's great one question two new thing known :)
[03:23] <dooglus> meheren: it should have included the word mount, and the word floppy somewhere in it?
[03:23] <meheren> lol
[03:23] <Steinbeck1> it comes with a free office suite?
[03:23] <meheren> ok worked thx
[03:23] <LathropWells> Steinbeck - "Open Office" ??
[03:23] <dooglus> meheren: and I can't believe that "sudo -t auto" didn't complain a bit about illegal options and stuff?
[03:23] <Steinbeck1> yes...this is amazing
[03:24] <tenzin_> I wrote that the little cmyk is implementet in the current version of ubuntu...but how can I configure it with the "qtmonitorprofiler"....(http://docs.scribus.net/index.php?lang=en&page=moncal)?`
[03:24] <meheren> it gave me a bunch of tex
[03:24] <meheren> t
[03:24] <LathropWells> Steinbeck - give Mozilla "NVU" a try for html
[03:25] <Steinbeck1> nvu?
[03:25] <ari123> is there a way to startx in safe mode ?*
[03:25] <Steinbeck1> I really dont see how windows stands a chance...much less dominates
[03:26] <dooglus> Steinbeck1: it comes bundled with every PC...
[03:26] <Steinbeck1> thats to bad
[03:26] <dooglus> Steinbeck1: most people don't even really know what Windows is, what an OS is, or anything much about their PC.  they just "click the blue e" and surf the net
[03:27] <ari123> someone help me to enalbe graphic mode ?
[03:27] <meheren> start x
[03:27] <Steinbeck1> well i dont know very much either...well more than that but still
[03:27] <LathropWells> Steinbeck - in a few months windows will be a vague memory (Nightmare?) except for games even then Cedega emulation will work for most.
[03:27] <nalioth> ari123: choose "rescue mode" from the grub menu
[03:27] <dooglus> Steinbeck1: and anyway, everybody knows you get what you pay for.  free software must be crap, or they'd charge for it, right?
[03:27] <dooglus> LathropWells: that's a little over-optimistic, don't you think?
[03:28] <Steinbeck1> dooglus, well lord knows what would happen if everybody would have to touch a terminal
[03:28] <Steinbeck1> or shell*
[03:28] <Steinbeck1> can i emulate steam?
[03:28] <avinoam> anyone know how to work with vfd images in ubuntu?
[03:29] <pusling> LathropWells: hmm... I don't see how that should help ?
[03:29] <LathropWells> dooglus - not really, every serious app has an equivakent in linux and most games are very playable with cedega.  (Doom3, and UT series games have native linux ports)
[03:30] <Hali_303> hi! how to install C developer documentation? for "man strcmp" to work..
[03:30] <LathropWells> Steinbeck YES! - i play Half-life 2 all the time
[03:30] <mjr> Hali_303, sudo apt-get install manpages-dev
[03:30] <nalioth> Hali_303: install manpages-dev
[03:30] <dooglus> Hali_303: install a package called 'manpages-dev'
[03:31] <Hali_303> thx all!
[03:31] <MarcN> Hali_303: apt-get install glibc-doc    also
[03:31] <dooglus> Hali_303: maybe manpages-posix-dev as well?
[03:31] <Steinbeck1> LathropWells, same fps?
[03:31] <LathropWells> Steinbeck - It isn't noticeably different.
[03:32] <dooglus> LathropWells: how much does cedega cost?
[03:32] <mustard5> dooglus, 15 USD for 3 months
[03:32] <Steinbeck1> is it difficult to change around boot screens etc?
[03:33] <dooglus> and how much does Windows cost?
[03:33] <Steinbeck1> and gui skins?
[03:33] <mwe> My experience is that most games do not work in Linux, even with cedega. That's the main reason I still keep windows around.
[03:33] <LathropWells> five dollars per month - you can get the free version no point2play. - ech - five dollars a month is a deal
[03:33] <avinoam> anyone? vfd files?
[03:33] <dooglus> that's still $60 per year.  a copy of Windows isn't much more than that, is it?
[03:33] <LathropWells> no free version of point2play. wine can be had for nothing from CVS
[03:34] <johnm> dooglus: much more.
[03:34] <johnm> actually...
[03:34] <johnm> cedega is free from the cvs as well iirc.
[03:34] <dooglus> johnm: I've been looking at buying a new laptop recently.  there's only about a 1500Kc difference in price between a "no OS" laptop and the equivalent Win-XP laptop.  that's around 30, or $50.
[03:35] <LazyAngel> does anyone know about a jukebox better than rythmbox?
[03:35] <bob2> cplay
[03:35] <LathropWells> dooglus - Ubuntu has a few preconfigured iso's for HP models
[03:35] <dooglus> johnm: I downloaded and build CVS cedega a few weeks ago, but couldn't get it to run.
[03:35] <johnm> dooglus: if you want it for games, then go for it, but aside from that i have never got any valid reasons for using windows
[03:35] <johnm> dooglus: well, except for pro. accounting packages
[03:36] <Steinbeck1> where do all the files downloaded go to?
[03:36] <LazyAngel> thanks bob2. i'll look at that
[03:36] <dooglus> LathropWells: I wouldn't touch HP laptops with a bargepole after seeing the one they sold my parents.
[03:36] <Steinbeck1> default*
[03:36] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, usually /usr/bin/
[03:36] <bob2> 8/win52
[03:37] <dooglus> Steinbeck1: "dpkg -L <packagename>" will show you exactly where the package unpacked to.
[03:37] <sianis> hi!
[03:37] <dooglus> Steinbeck1: the .deb files themselves get cached in /var/cache/apt/archives for a week or so
[03:38] <LathropWells> WB sianis
[03:38] <sianis> can somebody help me for fstab setup?
[03:38] <darka> Hello, does Audigy2 6.1 (not ZS) have hardware mixing? It's not in ALSA sound card list
[03:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sianis about fstab
[03:38] <LathropWells> ubotu tell sianis about ntfs
[03:38] <bob2> darka: does it use emu10k1 chipset?
[03:38] <darka> bob2, yes, it seems so
[03:38] <LazyAngel> bob2: does cplay have a gui?
[03:38] <bob2> darka: then yes
[03:38] <bob2> LazyAngel: no
[03:38] <darka> bob2, ty
[03:39] <LazyAngel> does anyone know about a jukebox better than rythmbox? (with gui)
[03:39] <sianis> nalioth:  i'm not new in Ubuntu :)
[03:39] <sianis> nalioth:  a tell my probleme first ok?
[03:39] <LathropWells> sianis - lol - sorry   - How can we help?
[03:40] <sianis> so i have an ext3 partition
[03:40] <dooglus> LazyAngel: there was a jukebox that I heard of recently - but I forgot its name.  someone must know though.
[03:40] <Steinbeck1> dooglus, im downloading from amule
[03:40] <Steinbeck1> and trying to figure out where they are going
[03:40] <sianis> it's empyt and mount up when comp booting
[03:40] <Steinbeck1> so I can play them with vlc
[03:40] <sianis> but with user account i cannot write on, just read
[03:40] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, all apps can be loaded via terminal
[03:41] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, just type the app name in terminal   ie vlc
[03:41] <sianis> how can i mount it up with read/write rights for simple users?
[03:41] <dooglus> Steinbeck1: oh, I see.  they'll be going to wherever amule is set up to put them.  check the amule options...  probably ~/.amule or ~/.emule or some such.  do a "ls -altr ~/" to see what's been modified recently in your home dir.  something near the bottom is a likely candidate
[03:41] <LathropWells> LazyAngel -  sourceforge is a favorite of mine always something new and interesting.
[03:41] <sianis> i try chown the mountpoint but it isn't help...
[03:41] <Steinbeck1> ok thanks
[03:41] <dooglus> Steinbeck1: and don't you find amule is very slow to get started?  bittorrent is the way forward.
[03:41] <darka> bob2, hmm, nope I'm wrong, it uses CA0102-IAT chipset
[03:41] <Steinbeck1> dooglus, yes i do think so
[03:42] <Steinbeck1> is bittorrent any good for songs though?
[03:42] <sianis> LathropWells:  so? have you any idea?
[03:42] <Steinbeck1> i though  it was mainly used for larger files
[03:42] <dooglus> Steinbeck1: it's good for full albums.  less good for individual tracks.
[03:42] <dooglus> Steinbeck1: you'll find stuff like "top 1000 hits of the 80's" bundled into one download.
[03:42] <Steinbeck1> does linux have anything similar to bearshare
[03:42] <dooglus> Steinbeck1: I believe limewire is available for linux
[03:42] <Steinbeck1> per song downlonds
[03:42] <darka> bob2, although i think it uses the emu10k1 ALSA driver
[03:43] <deFrysk> Steinbeck1, try nicotine
[03:43] <dooglus> Steinbeck1: nicotine is a 'soulseek' work-alike
[03:43] <deFrysk> Steinbeck1, easy and lightweight
[03:43] <Steinbeck1> ok ill try it out thanks
[03:43] <LathropWells> sianis - i would try this bash script winmac_fstab.sh you can follow ubotu's link or www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab here
[03:43] <LathropWells> !ntfs
[03:43] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:43] <Steinbeck1> ok...how do you uninstall programs?
[03:44] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, same way your installed..in synaptic
[03:44] <deFrysk> Steinbeck1, apt-get remove <package>
[03:44] <sianis> LathropWells:  i see it...
[03:44] <Steinbeck1> oh ok..great
[03:44] <sianis> LathropWells:  but it's an ex2 partition...
[03:44] <sianis> LathropWells:  but it's an ext2 partition...soory
[03:46] <sianis> LathropWells:  so can this script help me?
[03:46] <LathropWells> sianis it will work. - it worked for me
[03:46] <Steinbeck1> how to I connect in nicotine?
[03:46] <sianis> but works with ext2?
[03:46] <nalioth> LathropWells: not for ext2/3 it doesnt, you're gonna have to get your hands dirty and actuall help :)
[03:46] <Steinbeck1> im thinking it wants a login/password
[03:47] <LathropWells> you can copy your original fstab file to fstab.bak if you are worried.
[03:47] <LathropWells> nalioth - thanks - i hate to give out bad info
[03:48] <sianis> nalioth:  so not works with ext2? enogth the fstab option what i can mount up for every user rw...
[03:48] <djk_> how do i delete a ppp connection created with pppoeconf?
[03:48] <cygnusx> Hi
[03:48] <cygnusx> i'm having problems with Wine on Ubuntu
[03:48] <cygnusx> i'm getting this:
[03:48] <cygnusx> X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[03:48] <cygnusx>   Major opcode of failed request:  1 (X_CreateWindow)
[03:48] <cygnusx>   Serial number of failed request:  13
[03:48] <cygnusx>   Current serial number in output stream:  14
[03:48] <Ophiocus> cygnusx,  dont paste here !!!
[03:48] <Ophiocus> ffs
[03:48] <cygnusx> srry.
[03:48] <Steinbeck1> deFrysk, how do you connect in Nicotine?
[03:48] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, try typing ' man nicotine ' in terminal, there might be a manual
[03:49] <cygnusx> anyway, can someone help me? :)
[03:49] <sianis> nalioth, LathropWells : is there help? :)
[03:50] <kitsch> hello! my computer have been crashing every twenty-four hours for the last few days. sometimes, before the computer crash, i get messages from azureus that it can't write to some files because of "read-only file system" and this morning i couldn't start x for the same reason. anyone know what could be causing this?
[03:50] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, I'm just going to download it and have a look
[03:50] <nalioth> sianis: did ubotu send you a private msg?
[03:50] <bob2> kitsch: your disk is failing
[03:50] <Steinbeck1> ok thanks:)
[03:51] <sianis> nalioth:  not yet
[03:51] <kitsch> bob2: ok, so do you think it's a hardware problem?
[03:51] <LathropWells> sianis - "sudo fdisk -l"  l=list will give you info about your partitions
[03:51] <bob2> yes
[03:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sianis about fstab
[03:52] <volker> hello. im trying to install ubuntu on my fathers laptop. but he instaler can not detect ethernet.
[03:52] <Steinbeck1> mustard, i seem to be unable to connect to a server
[03:52] <nalioth> kitsch: are you using alternative filesystems in your running system?
[03:52] <edddi3> Hi, does anyone know of a good OSS Nero alternative?
[03:52] <volker> is there a way to configure network bye hand?
[03:52] <Steinbeck1> a server is listed..but im unable to click the button connect..not available
[03:52] <kismet> I have a WideScreen and I saw all the stuff more large that usally...I'm using the correct resolution and radeon driver. what should I do to fix the problem?
[03:52] <cygnusx> Nerolinux?
[03:52] <bob2> edddi3: to do what?
[03:52] <kitsch> nalioth: i have two hdds with ext3
[03:52] <bob2> volker: /etc/network/interfaces
[03:53] <nalioth> kitsch: and? i'm not following
[03:53] <kismet> To be clear I'm using a laptop with 1280x800 screen resolution
[03:53] <edddi3> bob2: to burn dvd's using a burner that supposedly only burns using nero
[03:53] <bob2> edddi3: do you still have the receipt?
[03:53] <kitsch> nalioth: so i suppose i do not have any alternative filesystems in my running system
[03:54] <edddi3> bob2: what receipt?
[03:54] <nalioth> kitsch: you'll need to find out why your FS is read-only
[03:54] <bob2> edddi3: for the burner...
[03:54] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, maybe it doesnt work till you choose a username and pass..I would suspect you just make one up
[03:54] <kitsch> nalioth: it's not read-only, but after about 24 hours that's the error message i get
[03:55] <edddi3> bob2: it was an online purchase, I can still return it but 90% make you use nero
[03:55] <nalioth> kitsch: may i suggest that azureus + java is not a good combination
[03:55] <Steinbeck1> forgive my ignorance :(
[03:56] <bob2> edddi3: I've never heard of that
[03:56] <LathropWells> eddi3 - awhile ago if you had proff of pruchase for windows nero you could download the linux version for free
[03:56] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, I'm still fiddling around trying to make it work myself :)
[03:56] <edddi3> I had alot of problems with it
[03:56] <kismet> Hi All! How can I set DPI for X.org?
[03:56] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, there is some documents to read at cd /usr/share/doc/nicotine/
[03:56] <edddi3> bob2: tech support made me use nero -.-
[03:56] <kitsch> nalioth: azureus is not the only application that comes with this error message. this morning, i couldnt even login because of "read-only file system". i didnt have time to write the error message down though...
[03:57] <kitsch> is there any way to run azureus without java? :o
[03:57] <edddi3> kitsch: are you using a ntfs drive as the subject?
[03:57] <nalioth> kitsch: there are system logs somewhere to look at (i dont know where)
[03:57] <nalioth> kitsch: bittornado-gui works well
[03:57] <kitsch> edddi3: no, no ntfs drive
[03:57] <halibut> Hali_303, nice name
[03:57] <halibut> :p
[03:57] <kitsch> nalioth: thanks
[03:58] <sianis> nalioth:  see your private pls!
[03:58] <Steinbeck1> its up and running
[03:58] <jnymo> hi
[03:58] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, yeah?
[03:58] <Steinbeck1> yea
[03:59] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, ok, I can give up reading the faq then ;)
[03:59] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, http://nicotine.thegraveyard.org/cgi-bin/faqw.py?req=index
[03:59] <jnymo> how does one install a .deb? I have one in my directory here and I can't seem to get synaptic to open a local file
[03:59] <edddi3> bob2: so do you know of one?
[03:59] <mustard5> jnymo, dpkg -i fullpackagename.deb
[04:00] <jnymo> mustard5: thanks a bunch
[04:00] <bob2> edddi3: of one what? port of nero to linux? yes, you can buy it.
[04:01] <edddi3> oh ok, I'll have a look then, thanks bob2.
[04:01] <Steinbeck1> ill take a look thanks
[04:09] <kismet> Anyone know how to change DPI setting for X.org? Because I saw all the things strech horizontally with my 16:10 monitor
[04:11] <mustard5> kismet, its been dead as a doornail in here for a while :)
[04:11] <nalioth> yup, 620-odd dead people
[04:11] <Renski> BRAINS
[04:11] <Renski> (undead)
[04:11] <kismet> :D
[04:12] <Lathiat> kismet: its probably actually your resolution thast broken not th eDPI
[04:12] <Lathiat> if its stretched
[04:12] <Lathiat> dpi just makes the text bigger\
[04:12] <Lathiat> kismet: probably nee a modeline or something
[04:12] <kismet> I know that my resolution is correct..
[04:12] <Lathiat> kismet: if you figure it out (try googling your lcd/laptop monitor)
[04:12] <Lathiat> and file a bug if you fin da solution
[04:12] <kismet> ..I've already tryed :-(
[04:13] <Lathiat> sorry :)
[04:13] <meuserj|work> kismet, try turning on DPMS in your xorg.conf
[04:13] <kismet> My monitor should be working at 1280x800 and that is the resolution that I'm using...
[04:13] <kismet> DPMS is already on :(
[04:13] <meuserj|work> what is stretched? everything or just the background?
[04:14] <_ShoGo_> how can i make my terminal translucent?
[04:15] <trappist> what terminal?
[04:15] <_ShoGo_> my... console
[04:15] <meuserj|work> _ShoGo_, in GNOME?
[04:15] <trappist> Eterm? aterm? konsole?
[04:15] <_ShoGo_> yes, im using ubuntu with gnome
[04:15] <nalioth> _ShoGo_: gnome-terminal, eterm, aterm, konsole ?
[04:16] <_ShoGo_> ... it's ubuntu's default
[04:16] <meuserj|work> edit.. current profile
[04:16] <meuserj|work> go to the effects tab
[04:16] <_ShoGo_> meuserj|work, where??
[04:16] <meuserj|work> in the menu of the terminal
[04:16] <_ShoGo_> mmm
[04:16] <_ShoGo_> ok i see now
[04:17] <_ShoGo_> thanks
[04:17] <meuserj|work> np
[04:17] <_ShoGo_> and, to make transparent other things like.. windows, etc?
[04:17] <meuserj|work> that's another story.... you can do it, but it isn't very stable yet
[04:17] <_ShoGo_> ok =))
[04:17] <randy> Hello All.
[04:17] <_ShoGo_> then i think i ll wait
[04:18] <randy> can someone tell me why when I switch terminals from X (alt-f2 etc.) it kills my X session?  I swith back with alt-f7 and I am at my gdm login.
[04:19] <randy> I am running Breezy Final.
[04:19] <hantsjim> hell all
[04:19] <hantsjim> hello all even!
[04:20] <LazyAngel> my creative muvo player says that i have used 171 mb, but if i use "du -h" i have only used 86 mb. What has happend to the rest?
[04:20] <hantsjim> has anyone else in here lost wireless after updating using adept?...
[04:21] <trappist> LazyAngel: 171 is suspiciously close to double 86
[04:22] <LazyAngel> trappist: good point... i'll try to delete and see what happens
[04:22] <clb_> hey.. I get Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:23] <clb_> ddoes that mean I can't connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[04:23] <nalioth> clb_: try again in a while
[04:23] <duncanm> is bittorrent 4.1.7 available on breezy?
[04:23] <clb_> is there opera package in the repos?
[04:23] <duncanm> i downloaded the dpkg from bittorrent.org, but i see
[04:23] <duncanm>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/BitTorrent/DownloaderFeedback.py', which is also in package bittorrent
[04:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell clb_ about opera
[04:25] <Steinbeck1> where can I download limewire
[04:25] <randy> Anyone else able to switch terminals form X without killing the current X session?  Any ideas where I should look to resolve this?
[04:25] <Habbie> randy, it works for me
[04:25] <duncanm> nalioth: any ideas about bittorrent?
[04:25] <Steinbeck1> i cant seem to get it off of synaptic
[04:26] <Steinbeck1> and their website only gives rpms
[04:26] <LazyAngel> randy: what do you mean? using ctrl+alt+ f1 - f7?
[04:26] <nalioth> !info bittorrent
[04:26] <ubotu> bittorrent: (Scatter-gather network file transfer), section net, is optional. Version: 3.4.2-3ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 86 kB, Installed size: 536 kB
[04:26] <pepito> hello
[04:26] <randy> LazyAngel:  Yes.  If I go to a text console from X it kills my X session.
[04:26] <nalioth> duncanm: grab bittorrent from it's homepage, if you wish
[04:26] <duncanm> if i have a dpkg that's more recent, how do i upgrade?
[04:26] <nalioth> duncanm: a deb you mean?
[04:26] <duncanm> nalioth: that's what i did, but dpkg -i won't work
[04:26] <duncanm> yeah
[04:26] <duncanm> a deb
[04:27] <nalioth> duncanm: if dpkg -i didnt work, something is not correct
[04:27] <duncanm>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/BitTorrent/DownloaderFeedback.py', which is also in package bittorrent
[04:27] <duncanm> hmm
[04:27] <nalioth> duncanm: ah, ok.
[04:27] <nalioth> duncanm: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[04:27] <duncanm> well, i already have the 3.4.2-3ubuntu bittorrent
[04:27] <pepito> Im trying to get ubnuts source code in terms of boot-up hardware detenction and activation, does anyone know package names to download?
[04:27] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, I havent installed limewire, but I have a feeling its not straightforward
[04:27] <holycow> brb
[04:27] <clb_> nalioth: I get some dependency errors.. how do I make it also install all the required packages?
[04:28] <holycow> i think i found the xorg memory leak
[04:28] <holycow> its spurred on by firefox infact
[04:28] <holycow> weird
[04:28] <nalioth> clb_: grab the static deb
[04:28] <LazyAngel> randy: that works fine with me
[04:28] <Steinbeck1> mustard5, why do you say that?
[04:28] <LazyAngel> you can look in /var/log/
[04:28] <LazyAngel> or dmesg
[04:28] <clb_> nalioth: umm I got it.. dpkg -i says to first install some other package
[04:28] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Steinbeck1 about limewire
[04:28] <Steinbeck1> i think it requires java, but i downloaded that
[04:29] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, ubotu has a link :)
[04:29] <Steinbeck1> ok thanks man
[04:29] <nalioth> clb_: get the static version from opera.com
[04:29] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, don't forget the end part of the ubotu information on how to run the installer
[04:29] <oestenn> I can't stop Evolution email from sleeping
[04:29] <randy> atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).  I have a bunch of these from dmesg.
[04:30] <clb_> hmm where the hell is that..
[04:30] <oestenn> anyone know how to wake evolution email up?
[04:30] <clb_> oh I got it
[04:30] <clb_> static QT package?
[04:30] <LazyAngel> randy: i wish i knew what that means :P
[04:30] <randy> LazyAngel: Then Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[04:30] <oestenn> I can't find anything about evolution's sleep state online...  and I kind of need to use it...
[04:31] <oestenn> And I'm reluctant to just quit out of it because that could lose me some data
[04:31] <LazyAngel> randy: try googling for the error messages. I can't image that you are the only one with that problem
[04:32] <randy> LazyAngel:  Thanks guy.  WIll do.
[04:32] <pepito> Hello, anyone up there running Ubuntu could let me know which packages are used for hardware detenction and activation through out the booting proccess? thanks
[04:33] <oestenn> Alright, I've got to go to class
[04:33] <aleitner> i am trying to install a lan printer on a breezy box. however for some reason the second dialog in the "Add New Printer" Dialog doesnt list any drivers. it only offers me to search for drivers manually. is this to be expected?
[04:33] <oestenn> But if anyone knows or remembers anything about how to get Evolution out of sleep, PM me, I would greatly appreciate it
[04:34] <mustard5> oestenn, roger ;)
[04:34] <Enquest> If I scp something and want to make of this a tar file how would I do it. something like scp bla@bla:/file | tar foo.tar file      ?????
[04:35] <Steinbeck1> mustard5, thanks ran smoothly
[04:36] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, you learn fast it seems :)
[04:37] <Steinbeck1> however I cant just run limewire...I have to use runlime.sh instead of just limewire in run, any way to fix that?
[04:37] <Steinbeck1> thank you..im just doing what you tell me to
[04:37] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, you could add it to your application menu
[04:37] <frogzoo> what does Ubuntu offer by way of newsreaders pls?
[04:37] <Steinbeck1> how do i do that?
[04:38] <nalioth> Steinbeck1: alias it, or use gtk-gnutella (my personal favorite solution)
[04:38] <clb_> nalioth: didn't help downloading the static version
[04:38] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, there is a tool to add apps to menu in Applications>>System tools>Application menu editor
[04:38] <trappist> frogzoo: I like pan
[04:38] <clb_>  opera-static depends on xlib6g (>= 3.3.6) | xlibs; however:
[04:38] <clb_>   Package xlib6g is not installed.
[04:38] <clb_>   Package xlibs is not installed.
[04:38] <nalioth> Steinbeck1: i personally find java apps bloated and sucky, gtk-gnutella is functionally equivalent to limewire, without the system bloat of java
[04:38] <frogzoo> cheers, thx trappist - see how we go
[04:39] <nalioth> clb_: that is a weird error i have not seen before
[04:39] <nalioth> clb_: are you sure you got the debian static build of opera?
[04:39] <clb_> yea
[04:39] <clb_> opera-static_8.50-20050916.1-qt_en_i386.deb
[04:39] <nalioth> clb_: install libmotif-dev
[04:39] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, I would imagine you could just put the command in the 'command' section
[04:40] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, that would save you typing at all
[04:40] <Steinbeck1> yea i got it fixed
[04:40] <Steinbeck1> thank you
[04:40] <clb_> nalioth: says 'is not installable'
[04:40] <|3lack|ce> morning you good linux guru types!  got a couple questions if y'all have time?
[04:41] <nalioth> clb_: are you running breezy?
[04:41] <clb_> yes
[04:41] <nalioth> clb_: are you running non ubuntu repositories?
[04:41] <clb_>   libmotif-dev: Depends: libmotif3 but it is not going to be installed
[04:41] <clb_>                 Depends: xlibs-dev but it is not installable
[04:41] <nalioth> clb_: dont paste
[04:41] <Deanodriver> would breezy run fine on a celeron 600 laptop?
[04:41] <clb_> multiverse and the official
[04:41] <axel> Hello, is it possible to format a ntfs usb drive under ubuntu or do i have to go thu windows, put it in fat and then back in ubuntu to format
[04:41] <nalioth> !paste
[04:41] <ubotu> I heard paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[04:42] <Deanodriver> i can get one cheap, and i would be upgrading the ram
[04:42] <nalioth> clb_: paste your sources.list please
[04:42] <FaBouLoUz> i have a problem, can anyone halp me?
[04:42] <FaBouLoUz> help*
[04:42] <axel> whats ur problem
[04:42] <nalioth> axel: ntfs and linux have nothing to do with the other
[04:42] <Deanodriver> (it has 64mb atm, i'd probly try and put 256 in)
[04:42] <nalioth> FaBouLoUz: if you dont ask a question, you'll get no help
[04:43] <|3lack|ce> after much trouble I finally got 5.04 installed - but when it boots it fails the 'setting sensors' test - how do I fix this?  Also when I get signed on, I get 'Hal failed to initialize' - what's Hal and how do I fix that too?
[04:43] <FaBouLoUz> i'm not able to find where i can grew up the volume of my sound card!!
[04:43] <axel> nalioth, i dont get u, is wasnt clear maybe, i dont want to put it in ntfs, its ntfs right now and i want to format it to linux filesystem
[04:43] <clb_> nalioth: where do I find that
[04:44] <mustard5> clb_, its at /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:44] <nalioth> axel: have fun then, use mkfs
[04:44] <nalioth> clb_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:44] <ericmoritz> hi, whenever I shut my laptop cover, my wifi connection disconnects, does anyone know how I can prevent that?
[04:44] <nalioth> ericmoritz: dont close your lappy?
[04:45] <clb_> nalioth: mustard5: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4529
[04:45] <axel> nalioth, oki thx
[04:45] <FaBouLoUz> nalioth, where in ubuntu can i modify the volume of the sound card??
[04:46] <trappist> FaBouLoUz: alsamixer
[04:46] <|3lack|ce> after much trouble I finally got 5.04 installed - but when it boots it fails the 'setting sensors' test - how do I fix this?  Also when I get signed on, I get 'Hal failed to initialize' - what's Hal and how do I fix that too?
[04:46] <FaBouLoUz> ok thanks trappist
[04:46] <FaBouLoUz> :D
[04:47] <nalioth> FaBouLoUz: system > prefs > multimedia
[04:47] <axel> nalioth, i dont know anything about the filesystems, is ext3 ok for an external drive ?
[04:47] <Lothar_gbg> Getting winmodem running with sl-modem driver - anyone?
[04:47] <nalioth> clb_: use this sources.list your's is messed up a bit
[04:47] <nalioth> !sources
[04:47] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:47] <trappist> axel: is this an actual hard drive or a little usb thumb drive?
[04:48] <axel> trappist: its a 250GB usb drive
[04:48] <nalioth> axel: if you're only gonna use it in linux machines, yes. probably mkfs.vfat would be better, cuz then you could use it in linux and windows boxen
[04:48] <clb_> nalioth: do I need to use some update command after I edit that?
[04:49] <nalioth> clb_: of course you do
[04:49] <mustard5> clb_, yes
[04:49] <axel> nalioth, great thx a lot
[04:49] <clb_> well what might that be
[04:49] <mustard5> clb_, sudo apt-get update
[04:50] <clb_> nalioth: doesn't help
[04:50] <nalioth> clb_: did you put in a new sources.list?
[04:50] <clb_> yes and I ran apt-get update
[04:50] <nalioth> clb_: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[04:52] <|3lack|ce> be well
[04:52] <axel> bye people
[04:52] <userphp> Hi! I have a Postgresql database and I have set up unixODBC and the psqlodbc driver. I connect to the database with OpenOffice Base
[04:52] <userphp> Problem is that the psql database is unicode but Base cannot accept unicode characters
[04:53] <userphp> Where should I set unicode encoding? in unixODBC? in psqlodbc? in Base?
[04:53] <synapsis> morning
[04:54] <synapsis_> my monitor is producing an incredibly high frequency
[04:54] <jnymo> vmware's installation script is telling me that I'm missing some kernel modules "vmmon".. and it nees a C compiler.. it couldn't find one "make" on the system.. so I'm trying to hurry up and install make and maybe some C compiler if necessary (libc something?).. anyone have any advice?
[04:54] <synapsis_> this has only started when i'm using ubuntu
[04:54] <synapsis_> how can i stop it
[04:54] <synapsis_> its so annoying
[04:54] <nalioth> jnymo: install 'build-essential'
[04:55] <nalioth> synapsis_: use a console with what ubotu sends you
[04:55] <nalioth> ubuntu_: tell synapsis_ about xcfg
[04:55] <gypsymauro> hello
[04:55] <jnymo> nalioth: thanks.. is it in install applications or synaptic?
[04:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell synapsis_ about xcfg
[04:55] <nalioth> jnymo: use synaptic
[04:55] <jnymo> rgr
[04:56] <gypsymauro> I've installed ubuntu but if I try to open the icon "hda1" that I've on the desktop it says that I've not permission
[04:56] <synapsis_> nalio: i just switched screen resolutions from 1024x800 to 800x600 and it stopped, however i want to use 1024x800
[04:56] <gypsymauro> (is a ntfs partition)
[04:57] <synapsis_> nalio: i'm unfamilure with xcfg, i'm new to ubuntu/linux so i'm lost
[04:57] <nalioth> synapsis_: go to applications, accessories, terminal (and open a terminal)
[04:58] <synapsis_> nalioth: k
[04:58] <nalioth> synapsis_: then look at your irc client for a tab marked 'ubotu', he sent you the command to use
[04:58] <nalioth> synapsis_: this will allow you to change your video settings
[04:58] <nalioth> synapsis_: be wary, using the wrong frequencies can explode your display
[04:58] <synapsis_> nalioth: =O
[04:59] <djk_> how do i delete a ppp connection created with pppoeconf?
[04:59] <Xiris> hey all
[04:59] <synapsis_> nalioth: so what should i use then so this doesn't happen?
[04:59] <nalioth> synapsis_: i dont know what monitor you have, so i can't answer the question
[05:00] <Xiris> Anyone else having issues with USplash flickering during bootup?
[05:00] <synapsis_> nalioth: its a del monitor =P
[05:01] <Steinbeck1> how to you check cpu load?
[05:01] <nalioth> synapsis_: i believe there is a 'let dpkg automatically find devices' or somehting as the first questino
[05:01] <Steinbeck1> do*
[05:01] <djk_> Steinbeck1: top
[05:01] <nalioth> Steinbeck1: in a terminal, type 'top'
[05:02] <Steinbeck1> k
[05:02] <selinium> hi nalioth :)
[05:02] <Der_Meister> is powernowd compatible with athlon xp 1800+ ?
[05:02] <synapsis_> nalioth: it did do that, however i'm at a list now for selecting a driver.  i still have no idea
[05:02] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, alternatively you have a gui in App>>System tools>>System monitor
[05:02] <selinium> Anybody know what to do when if trying to uninstall, it fails?
[05:02] <Der_Meister> i cannot get it working
[05:02] <nalioth> synapsis_: choose VESA
[05:03] <xjonex_>      /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[05:03] <Steinbeck1> even better
[05:04] <synapsis_> nalioth: you sure?
[05:04] <nalioth> synapsis_: use vesa, it is safe and works on any display
[05:05] <synapsis_> nalioth:  video cards bus identifier
[05:06] <nalioth> synapsis_: if you dont know the answer, go on to the next question
[05:06] <synapsis_> nalioth: i'm gunna know none of these answers, like "amount of memory in kb to be used by your video card"
[05:06] <nalioth> synapsis_: then just go to the next question
[05:07] <synapsis_> nalioth: use kernel framebuffer device interface?  yes no?
[05:07] <nalioth> synapsis_: stick with the default answer(s)
[05:08] <Deanodriver> so would a celeron 600 be fine for ubuntu, with 256mb of ram?
[05:08] <mustard5> Deanodriver, it would function
[05:08] <deFrysk> Deanodriver, would do
[05:08] <mustard5> Deanodriver, how big is the hard drive?
[05:08] <Deanodriver> 6gb, i think
[05:08] <mustard5> Deanodriver, big enough :)
[05:08] <Xiris> Anyone else having issues with USplash flickering during bootup?
[05:08] <Deanodriver> yeah
[05:09] <Deanodriver> just trying to decide whether to buy a c600 laptop
[05:09] <mustard5> Deanodriver, it might run slow with gnome..but it will be functional
[05:09] <Deanodriver> although it's only got 64mb of ram, i'd upgrade that
[05:09] <deFrysk> Deanodriver, you could always setup xfce4 on it to improve speed
[05:09] <Deanodriver> so it'd be ok just for irc/browsing/im?
[05:09] <deFrysk> xfce4 = xubuntu-desktop
[05:09] <Deanodriver> for $200AUD, it is kinda tempting
[05:10] <Deanodriver> yeah, i know, i have it installed on my other machine, but normally run gnome
[05:10] <Deanodriver> (xp2500+, 1gb ram, etc)
[05:10] <synapsis_> nalioth: well i set it back to 1024x800 and its not making a hissing noise anymore, so thanks =)
[05:10] <deFrysk> Deanodriver, you should be ok for an internet box
[05:10] <nalioth> synapsis_: enjoy!
[05:10] <synapsis_> nalioth: it wasn't doing this yesterday, only today =(
[05:10] <nalioth>  synapsis_ is your monitor going bad?
[05:11] <Deanodriver> so you're saying it'd run, but not fantastic with gnome, but reasonable with xfce or fluxbox?
[05:11] <Deanodriver> any recommendations on cheap wireless cards that are linux compatible?
[05:11] <deFrysk> Deanodriver, thats about it imho
[05:11] <nalioth> Deanodriver: that is a great box to run any ubuntu variant
[05:11] <synapsis_> nalioth: i have no idea, some things look very hazey though
[05:11] <dr_willis> Deanodriver,  the wireless-ng web site has a large list of them.
[05:11] <Prothall> how do I fix synaptic so it'll install when apt-get install -f doesn't work?
[05:11] <nalioth> synapsis_: need to look at that, then
[05:11] <synapsis_> nalioth: wouldn't know the first thign about it
[05:12] <deFrysk> Prothall, sudao apt-get -f install
[05:12] <deFrysk> Prothall, sudo apt-get -f install
[05:12] <Deanodriver> nalioth, you mean my athlon, or the laptop?
[05:12] <nalioth> synapsis_: if it's old and nasty, it probably needs replacing
[05:12] <Prothall> defrysk: sorry, that doesn't work either - did it from root terminal.
[05:12] <mustard5> Deanodriver, there is this wiki page too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:12] <jnymo> nalioth: synaptic keeps wanting me to insert my breezy cd. but I don't have that anymore (to get 'build-essentials')
[05:12] <Deanodriver> cool, thanks
[05:12] <nalioth> Deanodriver: xp2500+, 1gb ram, etc is a great ubuntu platform
[05:12] <Prothall> apt-get install -f works, but it doesn't fix the problem of not being able to install..
[05:12] <Deanodriver> i know, i'm using it atm
[05:12] <Deanodriver> but i'm more worried about a Celeron 600 laptop :P
[05:12] <deFrysk> jnymo, comment the first line in sources.list the cd line
[05:12] <Deanodriver> at the moment
[05:13] <strips> I'm about to order a Cnet https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:13] <strips> sorry
[05:13] <jnymo> deFrysk: k
[05:13] <nalioth> Deanodriver: xubuntu-desktop is made for the celery
[05:13] <void^> i've used gnome on a p3-500 laptop /w 128m memory. works, if you don't open too many browsers.
[05:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Deanodriver about xubuntu
[05:13] <Deanodriver> cool
[05:13] <freemanen> if I have ubuntu and install kubuntu desktop i get kde in english, but how do I get in swedish?
[05:13] <Deanodriver> so i'd just do a server install of breezy?
[05:13] <Deanodriver> thanks
[05:13] <nalioth> Deanodriver: and install xubuntu-desktop
[05:13] <Deanodriver> cool
[05:14] <Deanodriver> there's a new file manager for xfce being developed, isn't there?
[05:14] <Prothall> should I post the exact errors that are returning?
[05:14] <strips> I was abot to say om about to arder a Cnet CWP-854 revision 1.12 with Ralink 2500 chipset... they have native linux driver..
[05:14] <deFrysk> Prothall, use pastebin
[05:14] <Prothall> thanks defrysk - I'm a noob -what's pastebin?
[05:15] <deFrysk> !tell Prothall about pastebin
[05:15] <Hamman> Deanodriver: Yes, it's called Thunar
[05:15] <Deanodriver> because i've tried the xfce file manager, and it's awful
[05:15] <Deanodriver> cool
[05:15] <Hamman> agreed :P
[05:15] <Prothall> 10-q again. lemme read up and I'll go from there.
[05:15] <Deanodriver> is it complete yet?
[05:15] <deFrysk> Prothall, read ubotu's message about pastebin
[05:15] <theine> I'm currently upgrading to breezy and I get loads of locale related warnings (see #flood). Does anybody know how to fix this?
[05:15] <Hamman> I don't think so, IIRC they're planning to ship it with XFCE 4.4
[05:15] <Deanodriver> ok
[05:16] <deFrysk> theine, shout be automagically fixed during upgrade
[05:16] <deFrysk> should*
[05:16] <Deanodriver> so you reckon it'd be worth getting the laptop, just for a basic internet box?
[05:16] <Hamman> then XFCE might become an alternative again, especially if they do automounting with DBUS/HAL
[05:16] <deFrysk> Deanodriver, for sure
[05:16] <theine> deFrysk, that's good news
[05:16] <Deanodriver> i'm thinking, it's only cheap ($200AUD), and if i don't like it, could probly make that back on ebay :)
[05:17] <deFrysk> silly aussies ;p
[05:17] <Deanodriver> heh
[05:17] <Steinbeck1> anybody know where i can get some skins for gnome?
[05:17] <deFrysk> Steinbeck1, art.gnome.org
[05:17] <misfit_toy> Steinbeck1, art.gnome.org and gnome-look.org
[05:18] <deFrysk> Steinbeck1, sudo apt-get gnome-themes-extras
[05:18] <deFrysk> Steinbeck1, sudo apt-get install gnome-themes-extras
[05:18] <deFrysk> even
[05:18] <Steinbeck1> ok will do
[05:18] <MARCHEV> CAN YOU TELL ME HOW TO INSTALL SKYPE
[05:18] <deFrysk> MARCHEV, no caps please
[05:18] <austin_> I need help installing Java
[05:18] <nalioth> ubotu: tell austin_ about java
[05:18] <Deanodriver> anyway, thanks everyone
[05:18] <synapsis_> well
[05:19] <synapsis_> i'm going back to windows
[05:19] <synapsis_> i'm not computer sauvy
[05:19] <MARCHEV> I DO NOT UNDERSTAND YOU
[05:19] <deFrysk> synapsis_, poor you :p
[05:19] <mustard5> MARCHEV, turn off cap locks please
[05:19] <MARCHEV> OK
[05:19] <synapsis_> deFrysk: i know, but everything here bothers me.  everything has to be tweeked, or fixed, with commands i don't understand
[05:19] <deFrysk> MARCHEV, dont worry keep up the caps and youll be banned soon
[05:19] <synapsis_> so whats the point
[05:19] <nalioth> MARCHEV: knock off the capitol letters, please
[05:20] <MARCHEV> ok
[05:20] <Steinbeck1> synapsis, this is my first day as well
[05:20] <MARCHEV> my mistake
[05:20] <deFrysk> synapsis_, catch up on the howtos, its not that hard its just dufferent
[05:20] <Steinbeck1> its not to difficult
[05:20] <Steinbeck1> youll get it
[05:20] <theine> synapsis_, everything? I don't think so...
[05:20] <mustard5> !skype
[05:20] <ubotu> methinks skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:20] <nalioth> synapsis_: the learning curve flattens out soon (i suspect your monitor may be defective, which is not a linux problem)
[05:20] <austin_> tried to download but keep getting mess gedit cannot automatically detect coding
[05:20] <nalioth> austin_: read what ubotu sent you please
[05:21] <Prothall> deFrysk: ok, posted.
[05:21] <deFrysk> Prothall, url ?
[05:22] <Prothall> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4530
[05:22] <Prothall> when I opened it it brought up the kde crash thing - so I posted that first.
[05:22] <mustard5> synapsis_, you gotta do what works for you :)
[05:22] <selinium> nalioth: this is what I get when I try to remove mysql-server http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4531
[05:22] <synapsis_> mustard5: hey =), and yeah your right
[05:22] <Niomi> ahh, when all else fails, complain that you are moving back to windows! :P
[05:22] <synapsis_> mustard5: this just isn't working for me.
[05:23] <jah_raztah> hi, i was here last night sice my ubuntu was completely broken
[05:23] <snowowl> or Gnome
[05:23] <jnymo> Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "3.4.5", while you are trying to use
[05:23] <jnymo> "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2".
[05:23] <jnymo> well that sucks
[05:23] <theine> synapsis_, can you give an example of what's not working for you?
[05:23] <mustard5> synapsis_,  thats ok buddy :)
[05:23] <deFrysk> Prothall, what app are you trying to startup there ?
[05:24] <Hamman> synapsis_: If you feel more comfortable with windows, by all means use it. I agree that Ubuntu has some rough edges, but the benefits(free, no viruses, more logical filesystem layout, me prefering Gnomes way of doing things over Windows etc) outweights the edges
[05:24] <Hamman> for me that is
[05:24] <Prothall> was trying to install nvidia-glx using synaptic
[05:24] <synapsis_> theine: well as i was lying in bed today, i was thinking about other programs which i use for music and such and i don't even know if their offered in a linux format
[05:24] <SlitherX> hello, i have a p166 mmx, 64 mb ram running with ubuntu (server mode). but im trying to install dsl (damn small) and when i write the partition table with fidisk or cfdisk, the system freeze... ???.... any ideas?
[05:24] <Prothall> there's a couple errors on boot too - hal fails to initialize and 'setting sensors' fails.
[05:24] <deFrysk> Prothall, sorry but I have no clue what happend there ?
[05:25] <jnymo> i find that windows, over the course of a few months, always slows down, becoming unresponsive
[05:25] <theine> synapsis_, like cubase or logic?
[05:25] <deFrysk> and now hes gone
[05:25] <nalioth> synapsis_: search sourceforge.net or freshmeat.net (but search packages.ubuntu.com  first)
[05:25] <snowowl> I dont know linux is better for me because don't play computer games and enjoy making stuff work
[05:25] <theine> synapsis_, or more like winamp?
[05:26] <mmHg> anybody here run hamachi, waste, or something similar?
[05:26] <Steinbeck1> nothing like relaxing and listening to Handel's Sonata in D
[05:27] <chicken-man> Can someone help me, my gcc and g++ compilers are not working, I keep getiing errors about the header files, I don't think it can find them ?
[05:27] <theine> chicken-man, did you install the build-essentials package?
[05:27] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, hehehe
[05:27] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, I take it you have mp3 support going?
[05:27] <SlitherX> chicken-man, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:28] <jnymo> so, i installed the gcc and make and stuff. and then the vmware installer told me that i have a different version of gcc than my kernel is built with, so it doesn't like it and aborted
[05:28] <Steinbeck1> yes
[05:28] <nalioth> jygge: install gcc-3.4
[05:28] <ZenithDK> how do I make postfix relay mail through another server?
[05:28] <mrtwister> hello. now in breezy :) all ok, but apt-get dist-upgrade i have to do several times and some packages to install manually. opera browser gone somewhere and now i installed again. and it require Motif. where i can get it/what package to install?
[05:28] <mrtwister> thx
[05:28] <chicken-man> theine, I think i may have messed ubuntu up by install breezy packages, I install from a 5.04 CD :-/
[05:29] <nalioth> mrtwister: install libmotif-dev
[05:29] <jnymo> so, i can just go into synaptic, look up gcc 3.4, install it, and it should work?
[05:29] <nalioth> jnymo: you'll be one step closer
[05:29] <jnymo> like i don't need special make versions and stuff?
[05:29] <jnymo> right
[05:29] <German> hi [linner] , how's your linux doing??
[05:29] <Steinbeck1> how do you check your kernel version?
[05:29] <Prothall> gotta hate it when xchat crashes, then the entire system does a lock-up. thanks for the attempt - I'll do a bit more research on the fix.
[05:29] <molsen> uname -r
[05:29] <deFrysk> Steinbeck1, uname -r
[05:29] <nalioth> jnymo: when you get the gcc-3.4 installed, in your terminal you are using, put CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4  ./configure
[05:30] <Steinbeck1> k
[05:30] <deFrysk> Steinbeck1, you version of ubuntu = cat /etc/issue
[05:30] <theine> chicken-man, via dpkg or what?
[05:31] <chicken-man> theine: aptitude (apt-get)
[05:31] <jnymo> my system says it was built with 3.4.5.. but the closest thing in synaptic is 3.4.4. think it'll work?
[05:31] <Steinbeck1> its the latest ubunto
[05:31] <Steinbeck1> 5.10
[05:31] <Steinbeck1> ubuntu*
[05:31] <nalioth> jnymo: gcc-3.4 will do fine
[05:31] <jnymo> word
[05:31] <theine> chicken-man, that's ok, did you do a apt-get dist-upgrade?
[05:32] <Steinbeck1> is there a way to get certain programs to start up automatically when you restart the computer?
[05:32] <chicken-man> theine: well i changed the sources.list file to use breezy then used the upgrade function in aptitude
[05:32] <Steinbeck1> start up manager*
[05:32] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, system>>preferences>>Sessions
[05:32] <nalioth> Steinbeck1: system > prefs > sessions
[05:32] <iratsu> how do I make my computer have a static IP within my network?
[05:32] <mrtwister> nalioth, no.... look, it telling that libmotiff-dev now replaced by lesstif2-dev but - it conflict..
[05:33] <mrtwister> nalioth, i will paste
[05:33] <sowdog> heya, what controls the icon associations for mime types? Eg, If i wanted to change the icon association for .wmv, how would i do that?
[05:33] <Steinbeck1> k thanks
[05:33] <molsen> Can someone help me with this one: http://pastebin.com/429160 ?
[05:33] <Steinbeck1> i should of switched sooner
[05:33] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, :)
[05:34] <sowdog> iratsu, not possible to set from system->administration->networking?
[05:35] <chicken-man> theine: well i changed the sources.list file to use breezy then used the upgrade function in aptitude
[05:35] <synapsis_> nalioth: i know that fruityloops or adobe audition are not linux based
[05:35] <nosilver4u> any ideas why mdadm devices would get started on boot, even though i have nothing defined in mdadm.conf?
[05:35] <synapsis_> and thats what i use.
[05:36] <mrtwister> nalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4532
[05:36] <marlun> Is there a commonly used directory to store ur subversion repository?
[05:36] <nalioth> synapsis_: linux has equivalents to those (linux is used extensively in the entertainment industry)
[05:37] <chicken-man> Can some one help me change back to my 5.04 system (after I did a upgrade while using breezy repositorys)
[05:37] <clb_> anyone has any experience with anjuta? I installed it fine but am getting the error that glib is not installed.. dpkg shows I have  libglib2.0-0
[05:37] <synapsis_> nalioth: freshmeat is where i would search for these equivilents?
[05:37] <jnymo> hmm. now i have 2 gcc versions installed, but if i try to remove the 4.0, synaptic wants to remove build-essentials too, and some other stuff. should i uninstall or is there a way to specify the default compiler?
[05:37] <carambol> mrtwister why u do not use the opera-static package
[05:37] <nalioth> mrtwister: paste your sources.list, please
[05:38] <nalioth> synapsis_: enable universe and multiverse repositories first and search using your own box
[05:38] <clb_> what's better in opera-static than opera btw?
[05:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell synapsis_ about repos
[05:38] <carambol> ftp://ftp.opera.com/downloads
[05:38] <chicken-man> How do i change back my system to 5.04 with damage to any of my files ?
[05:38] <mrtwister> carambol, i checkboxed opera-ubuntu-breeze :)
[05:38] <selinium> nalioth, still have probs with dpkg   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4533
[05:38] <nalioth> clb_: any package that is static contains all the software it need to run
[05:38] <mrtwister> nalioth, minute
[05:38] <chicken-man> without*
[05:38] <nalioth> clb_: a static pkg depends on nothing on the system
[05:38] <clb_> nalioth: but the functionality is the same on both?
[05:38] <carambol> try the link i gave you,mrtwister
[05:38] <nalioth> clb_: yes
[05:38] <clb_> ok
[05:39] <selinium> nalioth, Trying to install apache2, and it tries to install mysql-server even though I dont ask!
[05:39] <carambol> mrtwister and for streams use gxine
[05:39] <nalioth> selinium: it IS a depend
[05:39] <chicken-man> How do I change back my system to 5.04 without damage to my files
[05:39] <mrtwister> carambol, please give link
[05:40] <randy> Hello again all.
[05:40] <selinium> is it? what apache2 depends on mysql-server?
[05:40] <deFrysk> chicken-man, better to dist-upgrade to 5.10
[05:40] <carambol> ftp://ftp.opera.com
[05:40] <mrtwister> nalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4535
[05:40] <ccooke> chicken-man: why do you need to change back? You'd need to do a full install, really
[05:40] <carambol> and use gxine,because mozilla-player will not work in opera
[05:40] <chicken-man> deFrysk: how all my config files are messed up and i only have a 5.04 disk
[05:41] <mrtwister> carambol, i go to www.opera.com, press download and selected.. ok, i will download static. but in hoary i use shared and was ok :)
[05:41] <ccooke> chicken-man: messed up in what way?
[05:41] <deFrysk> !tell chickenman about upgrade
[05:41] <nalioth> mrtwister: have you used those debian repos often?
[05:41] <deFrysk> !tell chicken-man  about upgrade
[05:41] <carambol> no you need the ftp-site
[05:41] <mrtwister> nalioth, few months ago
[05:41] <mrtwister> nalioth, to install asterisk pbx
[05:41] <chicken-man> ccooke: I done a server install not a full install with 5.04, my compilers will not work and theres i one or two boot problems
[05:42] <ccooke> chicken-man: okay
[05:42] <nalioth> mrtwister: that is the reason you are having trouble now
[05:42] <mrtwister> nalioth, in breeze asterisk is 1.0.9, up to date and i dont need it
[05:42] <ccooke> chicken-man: but you've now on breezy?
[05:42] <nalioth> mrtwister: you still have those old pkgs, causing trouble
[05:42] <synapsis_> nalioth: thanks again, i'll be back.
[05:42] <chicken-man> ccooke, i think so i install the breezy base system but it still say 5.04 when i login
[05:42] <nalioth> chicken-man: then you havent successfully updated
[05:43] <carambol> mrtwister,ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/
[05:43] <ccooke> chicken-man: right. you're half-way through the upgrade.
[05:43] <deFrysk> chicken-man, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base (with repo set to 5.10)
[05:43] <mrtwister> nalioth, asterisk do not use libtif and motif :)
[05:43] <chicken-man> nalioth: so what do i do and i need to restore the config files so they work
[05:43] <nalioth> mrtwister: the symptoms you describe point to non ubuntu pkg confusion
[05:44] <chicken-man> deFrysk: ok I'll do that now
[05:44] <nalioth> chicken-man: you've done a dist-upgrade?
[05:44] <mrtwister> nalioth, lesstif-dev: Conflicts: lesstif2-dev but 1:0.93.94-11.4ubuntu3 is to be installed
[05:44] <chicken-man> nalioth: not i used the upgrade function in aptitude with the repos set to breezy
[05:45] <nalioth> mrtwister: you have those debian pkgs causing trouble
[05:45] <nalioth> mrtwister: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[05:45] <deFrysk> chicken-man, you should use dist-upgrade as nalioth said
[05:45] <chicken-man> deFrysk: ok
[05:45] <deFrysk> chicken-man, not upgrade
[05:46] <canis_sud> hi everybody
[05:46] <deFrysk> dist-upgrade als removes adds packages if needed , upgrade does not chicken-man
[05:46] <deFrysk> als = also
[05:46] <jasongrieves> any ideas why the xnest in the application menu wouldn't work on breezy?
[05:47] <jasongrieves> xnest :1 seems to load up an xnest ok
[05:47] <jasongrieves> but i can't rout any apps to it,
[05:47] <jasongrieves> Xlib: connection to ":1.0" refused by server
[05:47] <jasongrieves> Xlib: No protocol specified
[05:47] <Decarabia> does somebody the german chan know ?
[05:47] <canis_sud> somebody know how to join to a w2k3 domain
[05:47] <canis_sud> _
[05:47] <canis_sud> ???
[05:48] <dr_willis> sounds sambaish to me. :P
[05:48] <trappist> jasongrieves: try xhost +127.0.0.1 in your :1
[05:48] <jasongrieves> samba, numerous articles
[05:48] <chicken-man> deFrysk: I tryed apt-get dist-upgrade but it don't look to need updateing
[05:48] <jnymo> I'm in a little deep guys.. anyone know the answer to this question?:
[05:48] <jnymo> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[05:48] <jnymo> kernel?
[05:49] <jnymo> it doesn't find it in /usr/src/linux/includ
[05:49] <deFrysk> chicken-man, then try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base
[05:49] <trappist> jnymo: vmware?
[05:49] <jnymo> e
[05:49] <trappist> jnymo: sudo apt-get install linux-source
[05:49] <canis_sud> jason, i work configuring the samba files and pem.h, but, when i login the ubuntu ask me 2 time the pass
[05:49] <Fox> .
[05:49] <jnymo> trappist: that's what I'm trying install.. ah
[05:49] <jasongrieves> trappist what do you mean?
[05:49] <chicken-man> deFrysk: All ready newest version
[05:50] <Decarabia> what is the german-chan called ?
[05:50] <nalioth> jnymo: you need linux-headers-yourkernelversion and linux-source
[05:50] <nalioth> Decarabia: #ubuntu-de
[05:50] <deFrysk> chicken-man, then you are upgrade to 5.10
[05:50] <Decarabia> thx a lot
[05:50] <trappist> jasongrieves: if you can get a console in your :1, put 'xhost +127.0.0.1' in it
[05:50] <jasongrieves> yeah i can't get xterm to go over there
[05:50] <jasongrieves> xterm -display :1
[05:50] <chicken-man> deFrysk: repositorys are set to breezy, it must already be 5.10
[05:50] <jasongrieves> gives errors above
[05:50] <deFrysk> chicken-man, yes
[05:51] <jnymo> nalioth: so also sudo apt-get install linux-headers-mykernelversion ?
[05:51] <trappist> jasongrieves: I haven't used xnest much, so I dunno if it respects your .xinitrc, but you could try putting it there
[05:51] <deFrysk> chicken-man, did you use other repositories then the ubuntu repo's ?
[05:51] <nalioth> jnymo: substitute your kernel version (use synaptic, it's much easier)
[05:51] <chicken-man> deFrysk: i changed them all from hoary to breezy
[05:51] <jnymo> right
[05:52] <chicken-man> deFrysk: all the default repositories
[05:52] <deFrysk> chicken-man, and no alien repo's added ?
[05:53] <deFrysk> just checking
[05:53] <canis_sud> look i can logon like a ubunto user, and i see the domain users and group, but if i put a domain user  with the rigth pass in the login the system said Login faild
[05:53] <chicken-man> deFrysk: no all ubuntu
[05:53] <jnymo> how do you check your kernel version?
[05:53] <carambol> uname -a
[05:53] <deFrysk> chicken-man, I think you should ask nalioth for further help as he is smarter then I am with this
[05:54] <jnymo> word
[05:54] <chicken-man> deFrysk: maybe i should down grade to 5.04 the upgrade again then it may fix the config files
[05:54] <nalioth> chicken-man: have you "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"ed?
[05:55] <chicken-man> nalioth: when i upgraded to 5.10 i just used update
[05:55] <korio> I have horrible sound quality in apps like ZSNES and at times it says "sound init failed!"   what should I do?
[05:56] <nalioth> chicken-man: right now this instant run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[05:56] <systemm> of gewoon sudo -s
[05:56] <systemm> ff inloggen
[05:56] <systemm> en dan
[05:56] <systemm> apt-get update
[05:57] <deFrysk> systemm, /j #ubuntu-nl ;)
[05:57] <ccc_> i need to tell my 2nd nic (eth1) which has a static ip to only connect via the (static) ip of my directly connected other computer (which has an ftp server up and running), how would i do that? route --something? my eth0 is for internet and uses dhcp and works.
[05:57] <chicken-man> nalioth, won't work I'm running 5.10 but all the config files are in a mess
[05:57] <mtaq> Can anyone in here help me with a kernel module issue http://pastebin.ca/28671
[05:57] <jnymo> ah, they're there. sweet
[05:57] <randy> WOW.  Breezy seems so fast compared to SuSE here.  So far I am quite impressed (Day 1).
[05:57] <korio> I have horrible sound quality in apps like ZSNES and at times it says "sound init failed!"   what should I do?
[05:58] <jnymo> ok. lets try this install again
[05:59] <deFrysk> korio, in kde ?
[05:59] <nalioth> chicken-man: type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[06:00] <jnymo> upon examination of the filesystem.. usr/src/linux/include doesn't exist and rather its /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9
[06:01] <electron_> hi, how can I put a irc client on my website that people can use?
[06:01] <canis_sud> hi, i need some help, someone can help me please?
[06:01] <jah_raztah> what is the url to download drapper drake
[06:01] <deFrysk> canis_sud, ask
[06:01] <chicken-man> nalioth, output: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[06:01] <jah_raztah> iso
[06:01] <electron_> so like you go to my server url and it connects to my irc server and channel
[06:01] <NoUse> canis_sud we'll probably know whether or not we can help you once you ask your question
[06:01] <deFrysk> jah_raztah, same url as breezy , only about 4 mnths from now
[06:01] <pjott> Hi all! =)
[06:01] <jnymo> but when i tell the installer to look in /usr/src .. it says it wants "linux, asm, or net" as directories
[06:02] <jnymo> should I just create the directory structure?
[06:02] <pjott> I need some help here, with a Ubuntu Linux I downloaded from Ubuntu's WEB Page.
[06:02] <sudabeh> moinZz
[06:02] <sudabeh> ist jemand da
[06:02] <NoUse> pjott ask a question
[06:02] <dts> what's the best way to do two-way synchronization between two folders. Google is a enigma on that issue...
[06:02] <pjott> NoUse, sure ;)
[06:02] <NoUse> dts look into rsync
[06:02] <sudabeh> hello!who is here
[06:03] <sudabeh> bye
[06:03] <rockz> how i install jdk 1.5 ?
[06:03] <chicken-man> nalioth, output: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[06:03] <pjott> I've downloaded a package converter called "Alien", because I need to convert a RPM page to a valid Ubuntu package. I'm a noob with Ubuntu, so I need help to convert it ;)
[06:03] <electron_> How can I put a irc client on my website that people can use? Which one should I use so like you go to my server url and it connects to my irc server and channel!
[06:03] <deFrysk> !tell rockz about javadeb
[06:03] <nalioth> chicken-man: sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[06:03] <NoUse> pjott what program are you trying to install?
[06:03] <canis_sud> hi guys, i`m configuring my ubuntu to log with w2k3 AD, but did work, when i log with a user and the right pass, ubuntu tells me logging faild, but when i put a wrong pass ask me a 2 password\
[06:04] <deFrysk> !tell rockz about java
[06:04] <pjott> NoUse, LimeWire
[06:04] <deFrysk> !tell rockz about javadebs
[06:04] <dr_willis> electron_,  ive seen several java irc clients that can do that. google for them  and see.
[06:04] <rockz> tkz =D
[06:04] <NoUse> !tell pjott about limewire
[06:05] <NoUse> pjott it's probably easier to just use the generic installer ubotu sent you
[06:05] <jah_raztah> deFrysk, no i remember someone giving me the url for drapper
[06:05] <pjott> Thakns ;)
[06:05] <jah_raztah> lastnight
[06:05] <pjott> !java
[06:05] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:05] <deFrysk> jah_raztah, good luck searching
[06:06] <chicken-man> nalioth, none to install
[06:07] <deFrysk> chicken-man, could you post your sources.list please ? (just to check)
[06:07] <electron_> how do I stop samba?
[06:07] <chicken-man> deFrysk how do i copy all the text in emacs and paste in lynx ? lol
[06:08] <deFrysk> lol
[06:08] <lem> How do I change the date format from mm/dd/yyyy to dd.mm.yyyy in the taskbar clock?
[06:08] <canis_sud> i did that with samba and winbind
[06:08] <kosovar> hi all :)
[06:08] <deFrysk> chicken-man, http://johanvrt.tomaatnet.nl/sources.list put this in your sources.list
[06:09] <deFrysk> chicken-man, wget it
[06:09] <bingorl> hello
[06:09] <bingorl> there is a theme for ubuntu that looks like windows XP? (it's for a windows user:)
[06:09] <imrik> thats ugly
[06:09] <jnymo> figured it out
[06:09] <timo_> ok so im a complete newb, and need a little help. I got the ubuntu 5.10 breezy amd64 version installed on my machine and at the end of the installation i selected a range of resolutions that i wanted to be able to use. problem is when i try to change the resolution to a higher resoultion it doesnt actually change, even though ubtuntu is telling me that it is.... any suggestions?
[06:10] <duncanm> i get all sorts of exceptions when i try to run azureus
[06:10] <jnymo> timo_: I'm a newb too, but if aint broke, don't fix it, right?
[06:10] <timo_> yea, but i cant stand having a resoultion this low
[06:11] <timo_> lol
[06:11] <trappist> pfft.  if it ain't broke, tweak it.
[06:11] <chicken-man> deFrysk: can you paste that again please
[06:11] <canis_sud> timo_, but have you a list to choice?
[06:11] <deFrysk> chicken-man, http://johanvrt.tomaatnet.nl/sources.list put this in your sources.list
[06:11] <jnymo> heh
[06:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell timo_ about fixres
[06:11] <dts> timo_ you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:11] <jnymo> hey what does vmware mean by "Do yo want to be able to use host-only networking in your virtual machines?"
[06:12] <dts> timo_ and the first resolution you put will be the one that starts by default
[06:12] <deFrysk> chicken-man,  cp it to /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:12] <timo_> yea i read a thing about editing xorg.conf, and i tried what i saw when i googled it but their solution didnt work for me
[06:12] <canis_sud> yes, the xorg.conf, i have the same problem check for the range of refresh of your monitor the horizontal and vertical ratio
[06:13] <nalioth> timo_: ubotu just sent you some revelent info in a private msg
[06:13] <deFrysk> chicken-man, as in : use it as a replacement.
[06:13] <timo_> thanks, im reading up on it now
[06:13] <chicken-man> deFrysk: updateing
[06:13] <deFrysk> cool'
[06:14] <deFrysk> chicken-man,  and try again an apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:14] <chicken-man> deFrysk: done, ok
[06:14] <deFrysk> chicken-man, any goodness coming now ?
[06:15] <chicken-man> deFrysk: only needs an update to xfonts-console :-(
[06:15] <lancer285> Hey guys, I'm having problems compiling a cvs snapshot of libgpod. There's no ./configure to run
[06:15] <chicken-man> deFrysk: xfonts-konsole*
[06:15] <Habbie> lancer285, does it include an INSTALL or README document?
[06:15] <leagris> /var/log/kern.log plagged by huge quantity of Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa00
[06:15] <leagris> 60/serio0). What is the problem and how can it be solved ?
[06:15] <neus> Can anyone help? I've just gotten Ubuntu installation CD's, and I can't install it :(
[06:16] <lancer285> Habbie, Yes. it says run ./configure make make install. but there's no ./configure. Am I missing some libraries or sometihng?
[06:16] <chicken-man> neus: put in CD-ROM drive, when it boots press enter
[06:16] <deFrysk> chicken-man, when done again try apt-get -f install
[06:16] <NoUse> !tell neus about install
[06:16] <neus> of course, I've done that, but windows loads just as usual. is there some way to force the cd to start when I restart my comp?
[06:17] <NoUse> neus you need to set your BIOS to boot from CD
[06:17] <neus> is there any other way?
[06:17] <zion115> hi guys, how do i replace the gnome boot screen with the kde one ? I have installed kde and it works fine, but the login manager is stil gnome ?????!
[06:17] <chicken-man> neus: go in the bios and change the boot setting
[06:17] <chicken-man> deFrysk: not updates needed
[06:17] <chicken-man> deFrysk: no*
[06:18] <neus> chicken-man: I would, but I've forgotten my BIOS passowrd, so I'm wondering is there a different way to go about it
[06:18] <NoUse> neus is there something stopping you from changing BIOS settings?
[06:18] <deFrysk> chicken-man, try apt-get install ubuntu-base
[06:18] <NoUse> neus ah
[06:18] <neus> you see my plight :(
[06:18] <jag_fsf> an oddity -- when i'm doing apt-get update this morning, i'm getting key verification errors for breezy-updates...
[06:18] <jag_fsf> anybody else seeing the same thing?
[06:18] <NoUse> neus why not reset the password?
[06:18] <tdn_> How do I replace my kernel with one that is optimized for AMD Athlon Thunderbird? Right now I am using some generic i383 kernel image.
[06:18] <neus> nouse: how?
[06:18] <musik> how do i use amule to download isos?
[06:18] <NoUse> neus open the manual for your computer
[06:19] <chicken-man> neus: remove the battery from the mother board and the password chould reset
[06:19] <nalioth> zion115: sudo dkpg-reconfigure kdm
[06:19] <NoUse> neus usually you disconnect the mainboard batter for a while
[06:19] <deFrysk> tdn_, athlon = k6 or k7 ?
[06:19] <neus> hmm ... what's the mainboard battery look like?
[06:19] <NoUse> neus like a battery
[06:19] <zion115> THANK! nalioth
[06:19] <chicken-man> deFrysk: already newest version
[06:19] <donza> hi all
[06:19] <tdn_> defcon8, how do I tell?
[06:20] <tdn_> oups.
[06:20] <chicken-man> neus: silver circle, remove it
[06:20] <tdn_> deFrysk, , how do I tell?
[06:20] <deFrysk> chicken-man, then I am no longer able to help you any further  unfortunately
[06:20] <neus> chicken man: I'll do it, be back in ~15mins to tell you how it's going.
[06:20] <deFrysk> !info linux-k7
[06:20] <zion115> sudo dkpg-reconfigure kdm : command not found ?
[06:20] <ubotu> linux-k7: (Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7.), section restricted/base, is optional. Version: 2.6.12.16 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[06:20] <neus> thank you both
[06:20] <chicken-man> deFrysk: lol thank for you help anyways :-D
[06:20] <tdn_> deFrysk, I *think* that it is K7.
[06:20] <leagris> [breezy} /var/log/kern.log filled with atkbd.c errors what can I do to fix this ?
[06:20] <pjott> I've downloaded a package converter called "Alien", because I need to convert a RPM page to a valid Ubuntu package. I'm a noob with Ubuntu, so I need help to convert it ;) I have installed Java, so that is not a problem
[06:20] <HappyFool> zion115: dpkg-reconfigure (not dkpg)
[06:21] <deFrysk> tdn_, then its sudo apt-get install linux-k7
[06:21] <jag_fsf> is anybody else having invalid gpg sig problems this morning on breezy-updateS?
[06:21] <NoUse> pjott did the installer not work?
[06:21] <zion115> :)
[06:21] <tdn_> deFrysk, ok. Thanks.
[06:21] <Marshall> question: i just installed breezy, and i dont have any dev headers for most stuff, like opengl or libjpeg. after searching around, i found out i should install mesa-dev and freeglut3-dev, but synaptic doesnt list them (and i am looking in universe as well) ...
[06:21] <HappyFool> leagris: doesn't it tell you to use setkeycodes?
[06:21] <pjott> NoUse, no. Because I have Ubuntu, and it does not support "*.rmp" files :/
[06:21] <NoUse> !tell jag_fsf about gpgerr
[06:21] <leagris> HappyFool, yes it does
[06:22] <tdn_> deFrysk, I have tried to apt-get install the kernel image packages, but that didn't work. MY graphics card and such did not work when booting the new kernel.
[06:22] <pjott> rpm**
[06:22] <NoUse> pjott did you follow the link that ubotu sent you before?
[06:22] <tdn_> deFrysk, but if I use linux-k7 it should work?
[06:22] <HappyFool> leagris: it's probably safe to ignore them, unless you want to use the non-standard keys ('spreadsheet' etc)
[06:22] <NoUse> pjott that gives you a non-RPM installer
[06:23] <deFrysk> tdn_, linux-k7 should work fine yes , also the old 386 is still in your /boot so you can still use it if needed
[06:23] <pjott> ah
[06:23] <pjott> ok ;)
[06:23] <pjott> no, I closed it. I just installed the Java
[06:23] <randy> Anyone try to compile gnomebaker0.5?  Mine gets to Checking for GNOME... then stops.
[06:23] <tdn_> deFrysk, ok. Thanks.
[06:23] <pjott> sorry, my bad :s
[06:23] <leagris> HappyFool, I don't use any funny keys. The trouble is that fills up kern.log quite fast and cause nitocable slow down of the machine. I'd like to disable this or fix it a clean way.
[06:24] <pjott> may you help me now NoUse ? :s
[06:24] <jasongrieves> still can't xnest to work proprerly, nothing will display over in it
[06:24] <pjott> Just write the "tell" thing, and I shall follow the link ;)
[06:24] <HappyFool> leagris: hrm
[06:24] <NoUse> pjott follow the instructions ubotu sent you
[06:24] <gallonegro__> is there a way to make all torrents open only with azzures when i download through firefox?
[06:24] <jasongrieves> Xlib: connection to ":1.0" refused by server
[06:24] <jasongrieves> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:24] <zion115> dpkg-reconfigure: kde says package not installed.. sorry i'm a bit of a noob :):)
[06:24] <HappyFool> leagris: the same keycode each time?
[06:24] <leagris> yes
[06:25] <tdn_> Is it possible to get MosML (Moscow ML) for Ubuntu? (I guess that only few of you if any uses SML ;)
[06:25] <HappyFool> leagris: what keyboard do you have?
[06:25] <Marshall> so where do i get these dev packages?
[06:25] <pjott> Thanik you very much, NoUse ! :D
[06:25] <leagris> HappyFool, Standard PC105 french keybord with euro
[06:25] <leagris> Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[06:26] <HappyFool> leagris: the keyboard otherwise works as you wish?
[06:26] <nalioth> zion115: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed?
[06:26] <mickskyvitch> I am trying to play mp3s from a windows share on my ubuntu machine,I can see the share but when I select and try to play in xmms it doesn,t work.Is it possible to do this?
[06:26] <leagris> HappyFool, yes,
[06:26] <zion115> no, i installed ubuntu with gnome and then downloaded kde through synaptic..
[06:27] <pjott> NoUse, why did you get me a windows installer? :S
[06:27] <leagris> HappyFool, I just care about the logs filling up quite fast and requiring repetitiv kernel interruption and disk access that does noticeable slowdon at times.
[06:27] <J_Man> mickskyvitch, you need to actually mount the windows share - xmms can't use gnome-vfs, which is how nautilus displays windows shares
[06:28] <maddash> mickskyvitch:  what's the problem?
[06:28] <J_Man> try something like mount -t cifs
[06:28] <HappyFool> leagris: just a sec
[06:28] <Steinbeck1> what is the difference between linux and bsd?
[06:28] <maddash> mickskyvitch: More specifically, what's the error message?
[06:28] <nalioth> zion115: install "kubuntu-desktop"
[06:28] <pjott> NoUse, why did you get me a windows installer? :S
[06:28] <NoUse> pjott it's a java app, its universal
[06:28] <veloct> mickskyvitch: is it an NTFS partition
[06:28] <J_Man> he's using xmms - it can't access gnome-vfs stuff :)
[06:28] <pjott> NoUse, ah ;P
[06:28] <NoUse> pjott follow the instructions ubotu sent you
[06:28] <pjott> Sorry for the repeating
[06:28] <zion115> okay... thanks.,.. but how?  told you i was a noob :P
[06:29] <leagris> HappyFool, Todays log is like this -rw-r-----  1 root adm 1,4M 2005-11-14 18:31 /var/log/kern.log
[06:29] <mickskyvitch> velocy,yes it is an ntfs partition
[06:29] <pjott> NoUse, damnit! I closed it again :s Please send it to me for the last time :) *Tears-my-hair*!!!
[06:29] <mickskyvitch> maddash no error message just nothing
[06:29] <veloct> mickskyvitch: follow what J_Man said
[06:29] <timo_> nalioth: i used that webpage you sent me and followed the steps listed, no luck, any other ideas?
[06:29] <mickskyvitch> if I try to open a folder I get a file selection window madash
[06:30] <tdn_> I am following the instructions for Post-Upgrading to brezey. It says that if I have an nvidia card (which I do) you have to run: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, but this gives me an error saying: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ... What to do now?
[06:30] <mickskyvitch> okay ty
[06:30] <leagris> 1.4 MegaByte complaining from atkbd.c in few hours
[06:30] <nalioth> timo_: run in a terminal, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose the resolutions you want
[06:31] <lancer285> hey guys, where's the libdvdcss ??
[06:31] <mjr> lancer285, /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples contains a script that downloads and installs it
[06:31] <NoUse> !dvd
[06:31] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:32] <lancer285> thanks guys (:
[06:32] <HappyFool> leagris: hrm. maybe an option is to set the keycode to some fairly high number, which (hopefully) doesn't do anything
[06:32] <nalioth> !libdvdcss2
[06:32] <ubotu> libdvdcss2 is, like, to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"
[06:32] <mickskyvitch> veloct,J_Man,maddash ty but no help  I'll keep trying
[06:32] <J_Man> mickskyvitch, what you need to do is:
[06:32] <J_Man> sudo mkdir /mnt/samba
[06:33] <maddash> mickskyvitch: are you able to access the files by loading them directly from xmms?
[06:33] <zion115> nialoth, how do i install kubuntu ? apt-get install kubuntu ??
[06:33] <J_Man> sudo mount -t cifs \\server\share-name /mnt/samba
[06:33] <NoUse> zion115 kubuntu-desktop
[06:33] <J_Man> then have xmms browse to /mnt/samba and play your files that way
[06:33] <leagris> HappyFool, it appeay it does this any type I use an arrow key
[06:33] <leagris> appear
[06:33] <HappyFool> leagris: hmm
[06:33] <nalioth> zion115: please read what you are sent
[06:34] <leagris> I would not want to disable the arrow keys
[06:34] <J_Man> or you can use totem instead, which will support gnome-vfs
[06:34] <zion115> soz
[06:34] <pulaski> hello
[06:34] <HappyFool> leagris: let me try
[06:34] <pjott> pulaski, hi =)
[06:34] <mickskyvitch> okay J_man will try that now ty
[06:34] <J_Man> welcome
[06:34] <Sianis> re all!
[06:34] <timo_> ive tried that as well, but the resolution still wont change. the main thing im having trouble figuring out is that originally i had ubuntu for standard 32bit processors installed onto my machine and im running amd64, the resolution worked fine then, and now it doesnt
[06:34] <leagris> HappyFool, I found a simmilar topic here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-74504.html with no answer
[06:35] <stratovarius> hey all
[06:35] <Sianis> do someone tell me a graphial bittorrent client?
[06:35] <stratovarius> does no one play america's army?
[06:35] <pulaski> I pjott, I'm and ubuntu newbie and budding java developer.  I know java is unfree but i've found docmentation to enable the java SDK on my new distro.
[06:35] <dr_willis> stratovarius,  i cant pass basic training.
[06:35] <musik> im downloading an iso with wget....how do i pause it for resuming download the next day?
[06:35] <dr_willis> stratovarius,  and i keep dieing on the parachute test.
[06:35] <stratovarius> dr_willis I'm not able to lig in
[06:35] <J_Man> Sianis, btdownload-gui
[06:35] <Sianis> stratovarius:  i do!
[06:36] <HappyFool> leagris: i only get those messages when i press 'funny' keys
[06:36] <dr_willis> wget has a --resume  option of somthing like that.
[06:36] <J_Man> I think that's the name of it :)
[06:36] <stratovarius> Sianis: im not able to log in
[06:36] <stratovarius> dunno why
[06:36] <zion115> pulaski , java is free as far as i know, what is your proble m ?
[06:36] <HappyFool> leagris: 1.4 M in a couple of hours is not all that much
[06:36] <randy> Hmmm.  Every Gnome app I try to compile dies in configure at:  checking for GNOME...  I have installed gnome-devel via apt.  Any ideas?
[06:36] <ReleaseX> everytime i click on a link to an embedded video in firefox, it crashes
[06:36] <Sianis> stratovarius:  is it writeing sometthing?
[06:37] <stratovarius> Sianis dr_willis i created an account but when I try to log in after game starts it says me unknow account
[06:37] <pulaski> I need the java-package but to create a debian package from a java distribution by running make-jpkg <filename>
[06:37] <nalioth> randy: use synaptic and search for -dev in 'names"
[06:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pulaski about java
[06:37] <Sianis> stratovarius:  e-mail? need get a e-mail
[06:37] <tdn_> !nvidia
[06:37] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:37] <pulaski> apt-get can't find the java-package
[06:37] <pjott> Hi! I can't install "Java" that I downloaded from Sun Microsystems for Linux. I get this error message: "Could not open /home/pjott/Desktop/java.bin - gedit could not recognize (...)" What's wrong? :s
[06:38] <leagris> HappyFool, fgrep 'setkeycodes e02a' /var/log/kern.log | wc -l  count 5908
[06:38] <pulaski> oh pjott you and I are doing the same thing
[06:38] <Sianis> J_Man:  it's open a window for every torrent
[06:38] <HappyFool> leagris: seen this? http://www.wains.be/index.php?2005/11/01/21-unknown-key-pressed-use-setkeycodes-
[06:38] <Sianis> not good.... :(
[06:38] <shingoki> is compositing stuff for drop shadows actually useable now, with an nvidia card?
[06:38] <stratovarius> Sianis I registred on the site an I put in my email but do I have to use it to og in after game satrts?
[06:38] <J_Man> sianis - that's normal :)
[06:38] <NoUse> !java
[06:38] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:38] <shingoki> last time I tried it it just crashed instantly
[06:39] <pjott> pulaski, realy? I'm about to install LimeWire. And you? :)
[06:39] <Sianis> J_Man:  i know but i don't like :)
[06:39] <pulaski> I have an ubuntu web link to some instructions for doing this
[06:39] <HappyFool> leagris: have you tried using setkeycodes yet?
[06:39] <tdn_> Does anyone know what to do if sudo nvidia-glx-config enable fails with an error?
[06:39] <pjott> let me know in PM ;)
[06:39] <J_Man> you could maybe try that java bittorrent client - Azureus, I think the name is
[06:39] <pulaski> i'm not doing limewire I'm trying to install the java SDK
[06:39] <Sianis> stratovarius:  i think you will get an email, you forced your accout...
[06:39] <leagris> HappyFool, Tnaks for the link, at least it look lake there a fix for this :)
[06:40] <Sianis> i can't write it
[06:40] <zion115> pulaski, packages.debian.org/java-package
[06:40] <shingoki> pulaski, I think the best way is with java-package, there is a howto on serios.net, try looking for those in google
[06:40] <Sianis> i don't know the best word for this...soory...
[06:40] <Talisker>  /j #israel
[06:40] <stratovarius> Sianis: I get an email from america's amry site and I click on a link to finish my registration
[06:41] <pulaski> yes zion115 I found the java-package at the package.debian site but apt-get doesn't find it.
[06:41] <Sianis> so can you log into the Army page?
[06:41] <stratovarius> Sianis: I tried with 2 accounts but they both dont work
[06:41] <stratovarius> Sianis: yes I can
[06:42] <stratovarius> Sianis: i have problems to log in during the game
[06:42] <zion115> hmmm... i see what you mean.. i'll get onto it..
[06:42] <Sianis> stratovarius:  i think the account servers was shouted down, i see they works try it now pls
[06:42] <stratovarius> ok I ll try
[06:42] <nalioth> pulaski: ubotu sent you a link for an ubuntu java package
[06:42] <randy> nalioth: Shouldn't apt-get install gnome-devel give me all I need?
[06:42] <nalioth> zion115: debian packages will be harmful to ubuntu
[06:42] <mahangu> anybody got a link to ubuntu bug report #1?
[06:43] <mickskyvitch> J_man thanks for your help but I'm just not getting it,will try again later
[06:43] <mahangu> need the text for an article
[06:43] <nalioth> randy: not in all cases
[06:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell randy about xincludes
[06:43] <stratovarius> Sianis : it says me error: unknown
[06:44] <stratovarius> I cant log in from the personnal jacket game page
[06:44] <pulaski> nalioth, ubotu: I'll look for it in the mail thanks.
[06:44] <ester> holaaa
[06:45] <Sianis> hm...
[06:45] <GNULinuxer> pulaski: ubotu is a bot
[06:45] <Dasnipa> how can you tell which programs are currently using the soundcard?
[06:45] <Sianis> stratovarius:  2.5 version?
[06:45] <stratovarius> yes I think it is
[06:45] <pulaski> thank you GNULinuxer
[06:46] <nalioth> pulaski: look to your private messages
[06:46] <Sianis> you think or you know? :D
[06:46] <pulaski> gee nalioth, thanks very useful
[06:46] <mirak_> is there a ubuntu 64 channel ?
[06:46] <nalioth> mirak_: you are in it
[06:47] <HappyFool> ubuntu 64: ubuntu *64* hours a day
[06:47] <stratovarius> Sianis: america's amry special forces
[06:47] <stratovarius> i think it's the 2.5
[06:47] <Sianis> okey
[06:48] <mirak_> nalioth: so how to use flash ?
[06:48] <mirak_> lol
[06:48] <Sianis> stratovarius:  what you see in your account page?
[06:48] <mirak_> that's the redundant question
[06:48] <mirak_> you only need this crap when you don't exept it
[06:48] <nalioth> mirak_: dont use amd64
[06:48] <stratovarius> wait I ll tell you
[06:48] <mirak_> nalioth: beside flash it's ok
[06:48] <veloct> Is there any way to change a partition from ext3 to reiserfs without data loss?
[06:48] <lanjelot> Is there someone who knows who to tell gnome not to popup a new icon whenever i mount a new device ? (plz)
[06:48] <stratovarius> Sianis: pvt
[06:48] <ubuntu> D
[06:48] <ubuntu> :D
[06:49] <mirak_> nalioth: I have still the ubuntu 32 bits, I can chroot in it, but I fail to manage X export
[06:49] <mirak_> veloct: no
[06:49] <|rt|> veloct: there is a way but it's risky convertfs...it uses a loopback device to convert the filesystem in place
[06:49] <ubuntu> hey ppl
[06:49] <ubuntu> I need some help with my comp
[06:49] <mirak_> veloct: not with a back up drive
[06:49] <ubuntu> I guess I've got blaster or suser
[06:49] <stratovarius> Sianis:do u recive my mess in pvt?
[06:50] <veloct> thanks mirak_ and |rt|
[06:50] <veloct> np
[06:50] <nalioth> mirak_: i find chrooting a pita
[06:50] <axel> hello, anyone does some Folding@home here ?
[06:50] <ReleaseX> if i try and play an embedded video in firefox, the browser window will just go white, the scrollbar appears for just a second and then goes away
[06:50] <mirak_> nalioth: a what ?
[06:50] <nalioth> ubuntu: can you be more specific?
[06:50] <nalioth> mirak_: pain in the arse
[06:50] <nalioth> pita
[06:50] <stratovarius> Sianis: ??? u there?
[06:50] <ProN00b> ReleaseX, remove the sucky totem plugin/any other plugins
[06:51] <mirak_> nalioth: yes but I just have to su
[06:51] <ubuntu> after booting windows 2k
[06:51] <ProN00b> haha
[06:51] <nalioth> mirak_: there is no su in ubuntu
[06:51] <neus> chicken-man: I've resent my bios password and done some changes: 1st boot: floppy, 2nd: hd, 3rd: cd - is that what I want? (In CMOS settings)
[06:51] <pulaski> nalioth, again thank you.  This page is also my guidel.  My problem is I'm unable to obtain the java-package
[06:51] <nalioth> ubuntu: tell pulaski about javadebs
[06:51] <mirak_> nalioth: aptitude install su
[06:51] <randy> Okay.  I installed all the Xlibs dev stuff and configure still quits on checking for GNOME...
[06:51] <ReleaseX> ProN00b, how do i check that
[06:51] <mirak_> there is even sux
[06:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pulaski about javadebs
[06:51] <chicken-man> neus: no second one CD
[06:51] <zion115> i can do a su in ubuntu ?
[06:51] <axel> hello, anyone does some Folding@home here ?
[06:51] <NoUse> nalioth it looks like the javadebs links are broken
[06:52] <ubuntu> there appears counting and I have about one min and then my comp is turned off
[06:52] <ProN00b> ReleaseX, locate your firefox folder then open the plugins folder in it
[06:52] <nalioth> randy: search in synaptic for -dev and install any that look guilty
[06:52] <neus> chicken-man: and first?
[06:52] <pulaski> good thanks nalith
[06:52] <pulaski> nalioth
[06:52] <|rt|> veloct: I would backup your important data before you try convertfs if possible
[06:52] <chicken-man> neus: first = floppy, second = CD, third = HDD
[06:52] <nalioth> NoUse: i have no control over apokryphos' server, they used to be on a torrent
[06:52] <|rt|> veloct: only use convertfs if there are no other options
[06:52] <ProN00b> ubuntu, trash that windows, its fucked
[06:52] <tdn_> !nvidia
[06:52] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:52] <HappyFool> zion115: we recommend sudo
[06:52] <jnymo> nope.. the vmware install borked some how
[06:52] <mirak_>  * Reloading GNOME Display Manager configuration...  * Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended.
[06:53] <HappyFool> zion115: if you really want su, you can enable root login
[06:53] <nalioth> ProN00b: watch your language please
[06:53] <mirak_> what is the interst of a reload option if I still need to restart all sessions ?
[06:53] <neus> chicken-man: thank you kindly. another question - I've only 8.some gigs of free HD space - is that enough for ubuntu?
[06:53] <ubuntu> anyone knows how to deal with suser of blaster on win 2k????????????
[06:53] <tdn_> Great! !nvidia gives me some urls now that I dont have a graphical browser :/
[06:53] <ProN00b> ubuntu, you are doomed, forget it !
[06:53] <nalioth> HappyFool: please, you're killin me
[06:53] <Agrajag> ubuntu: this isn't #windows
[06:53] <Agrajag> My suggestion is to install linux
[06:53] <HappyFool> nalioth: .... ?
[06:53] <Agrajag> problem solved.
[06:53] <nalioth> ubuntu: go to #windows please
[06:53] <bluefrog-10> where could i find an explanation of what groups (dip plugdev...) do exactly, pls?
[06:53] <ReleaseX> ProN00b, i have one for libtotem_mozilla.so and libtotem_mozilla.xpt, do i just remove those
[06:53] <chicken-man> neus: yep lot's, good luck with the install ;-)
[06:54] <nalioth> HappyFool: i'm so tired of explainging the root situation
[06:54] <neus> chicken-man: thanks, if it works, I won't be back ^_^
[06:54] <ubuntu> ppl I have there valuable data
[06:54] <BuFF> how coul i choose kde instead of gnome in ubuntu 5.10 ?
[06:54] <ProN00b> ReleaseX, backup them somewhere else in case it doesn't help and you want em back
[06:54] <ubuntu> I need help :(((
[06:54] <Agrajag> ubuntu: so go ask in #windows
[06:54] <nalioth> ubuntu: visit #windows please, we can't help you here
[06:54] <jnymo> wahwah.. whah
[06:54] <J_Man> BuFF: sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[06:54] <chicken-man> BuFF: install KDE
[06:55] <jasongrieves> any ideas why the xnest app in the application menu
[06:55] <J_Man> oops
[06:55] <J_Man> that's sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:55] <jasongrieves> would load, brin gthe mouse hte screen, and then die
[06:55] <J_Man> or install kubuntu-desktop via synaptic
[06:55] <britishseapower5> is skype available for ubuntu
[06:55] <bluefrog-10> yes
[06:55] <jasongrieves> would oad, bring the mouse, the screen, and then die
[06:55] <jasongrieves>  Xnest :1 loads a X window
[06:55] <veloct> british: yes
[06:55] <jasongrieves> but I can't even put an xterm over there
[06:56] <jasongrieves> Xlib: connection to ":1.0" refused by server
[06:56] <jasongrieves> Xlib: No protocol specified
[06:56] <jasongrieves> I can do another x session on a full screen however
[06:57] <pulaski> nalioth, sorry to be a pain, the link for breezy redirects me to a 404
[06:57] <britishseapower5> veloct, ta.
[06:57] <tdn_> 
[06:57] <britishseapower5> another question..how come when i copy a file via ssh on my lan i only get 1 Mbps !
[06:58] <ReleaseX> ProN00b, thanks, that worked perfect
[06:58] <britishseapower5> should be 100
[06:58] <nalioth> pulaski: yes i'm sorry. the person who insisted he had the bandwidth obviously does not
[06:58] <ProN00b> cant the devs fuxxing remove totem from the system ?
[06:58] <ProN00b> its a PEST
[06:58] <Niko__> lol
[06:58] <Sianis> stratovarius:  sorry i'm not registered yet! :)
[06:59] <Agrajag> ProN00b: how so?
[06:59] <Agrajag> it plays everything I throw at it
[06:59] <ReleaseX> ProN00b, should i remove libtotem-plparser0, totem, and totem-gstreamer from synaptic also
[06:59] <stratovarius> Sianis: if u aren't registered, how do u continue your training without register your progresses?
[06:59] <pekka> suomen vastaava kanava?
[07:00] <ProN00b> Agrajag, noone, uses it, its heavyly bugged, strange to config, not intuitive, in short, there are much better alternatives#
[07:00] <ProN00b> no, i wouldn't do that, ReleaseX
[07:00] <ReleaseX> ProN00b, alright, thanks for your help, i'm still trying to figure out what all of these different plugins and such do
[07:00] <Agrajag> I use it, I didn't have to do anything to configure it, it works fine. Are you sure the problem isn't somewhere else?
[07:00] <Sianis> stratovarius:  here i'm not!
[07:00] <djk_> hi, booting dies at "starting hotplug subsytem" almost always on my laptop. what should i do?
[07:01] <Agrajag> All I did was install totem-xine. One step.
[07:01] <stratovarius> Sianis: :P
[07:01] <Sianis> stratovarius:  i have 60 honor in the game
[07:01] <Sianis> :)
[07:01] <ProN00b> Agrajag, there are better interfaces to xine
[07:01] <ProN00b> and mplayer is better than xine
[07:02] <Agrajag> But neither of those are part of gnome.
[07:02] <jasongrieves> any idea why nessted X won't work from applicatoin
[07:02] <jasongrieves>  it laods a window
[07:02] <jasongrieves> brings up a mouse
[07:02] <jasongrieves> then closes automatically
[07:02] <jasongrieves> I can do a new login, but its full screen
[07:02] <Octane2> anyone have any idea how to get a torrent off a shell and download it... the catch is that the tracker requires authentication
[07:03] <Marshall> is it just me, or is synaptic missing a bunch of dev packages in breezy?
[07:03] <HappyFool> Marshall: for example?
[07:03] <|rt|> Octane2: ssh tunnel?
[07:03] <Marshall> looks like i dont have anything for opengl for one
[07:03] <Marshall> no mesa-dev stuff or freeglut-dev
[07:04] <neus> chicken-man: BAD NEWS. My comp won't recognise either of my cd drives - cdrom nor cdr. what do I do?
[07:04] <HappyFool> Marshall: i see freeglut3-dev (in fact, i probably have it since i've compiled Soya3D)
[07:04] <Marshall> so it is just me...
[07:04] <HappyFool> Marshall: appears to be in main
[07:04] <Steinbeck1> how do you install icon themes?
[07:04] <djk_> Marshall: get a proper sources.list then ;)
[07:04] <makol> hola a todos
[07:04] <Marshall> whats wrong with the one that came with my install? =p
[07:04] <poningru> !es
[07:04] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:05] <Agrajag> Marshall: you don't have libgl1-mesa-dev?
[07:05] <Marshall> no
[07:05] <makol> quien sabe como hacer funcionar una webcam creative vista????????????????????????
[07:05] <poningru> !tell makol about es
[07:05] <Agrajag> !tell makol about es
[07:05] <Marshall> i seem to be missing a lot ... i didnt have jpeglib.h either
[07:05] <Agrajag> hah
[07:05] <NoUse> neus you mean it won't boot off the CD or won't recognize it
[07:05] <maddash> can anyone tell me how to change to R/W permissions of a mounted partition?
[07:06] <Marshall> any suggestions?
[07:06] <HappyFool> !tell Marshall about sources
[07:06] <NoUse> maddash what kind of partition?
[07:06] <veloct> !sources
[07:06] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:06] <zion115> i'm trying to replace grub with lilo... it goes through the whole thing fine, says /boot/boot.0301 exists - no boot sector backup copy made. at the end but when i reboot grub still runs
[07:06] <veloct> !es
[07:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:07] <maddash> NoUse: ext2
[07:07] <jasongrieves> any idea why nessted X won't work from applicatoin menu
[07:07] <maddash> NoUse: I've alreayd edited fstab on my own
[07:07] <Marshall> ill check it out ... hopefully you will never hear from me again =p
[07:07] <jasongrieves>  it laods a window
[07:07] <jasongrieves> brings up a mouse
[07:07] <jasongrieves> then closes automatically
[07:07] <NoUse> maddash is it mounted as read-only?
[07:08] <maddash> NoUse: and did mount /dev/sda2 --- it all works; the only problem is that I can't create folders within the partition
[07:08] <socketbind> howdy, did anybody managed to enable coolbits in breezy? :)
[07:08] <kdude> any samba guru here?
[07:08] <maddash> NoUse: here's the entry in fstab for the mount: /dev/sda2       /home/maddash/Desktop/DATA     ext2    user,exec,auto,rw        0       2
[07:09] <NoUse> maddash man chmod and man chown
[07:09] <kdude> I have an enabled unix account that is disabled in samba. I tried enabling it with -e but it still shows up as disabled. Any ideas?
[07:10] <socketbind> my mc is kinda funky, any idea how to fix it? :D
[07:10] <NoUse> kdude you might have to add it with -a first
[07:10] <zion115> i'm trying to replace grub with lilo... it goes through the whole thing fine, says /boot/boot.0301 exists - no boot sector backup copy made. at the end but when i reboot grub still runs
[07:10] <zion115> ???
[07:10] <socketbind> I believe it's something about ncurses
[07:10] <makol> who knows how to install creative-.vista webcam.....(en el de hispanoblantes nobody knows)
[07:10] <kdude> NoUse: I tried that already..
[07:10] <djk_> booting dies at "starting hotplug subsytem" almost always on my laptop. what should i do?
[07:11] <poningru> !webcam
[07:11] <NoUse> kdude where are you seeing it as disabled?
[07:11] <kdude> NoUse: I did delete with -x  and then -a..
[07:11] <socketbind> djk_, what brand of notebook you have?
[07:11] <NoUse> kdude you realized that /etc/passwd and samba accounts are managed seperately right?
[07:11] <kdude> NoUse: when I use the smbpasswd -Uuser to change the password..
[07:11] <kdude> NoUse: I know.
[07:12] <iratsu> how can i access the fonts supplied in xfonts-jmk?
[07:12] <djk_> socketbind: dell latitude
[07:12] <rojo> hello..i'm new in linux ..and i have a problem about loging  at internet with a certificate provide by my isp..any help
[07:12] <NoUse> kdude are you running smbpaswd as root when you enable the user?
[07:12] <MarcN> Anyone try google's picassa under wine?
[07:12] <socketbind> any idea why dosbox segfaults all on my machines? :D
[07:12] <kdude> NoUse: shouldn't the samba synch take care of the linux->samba user mapping?
[07:12] <MarcN> f-spot isn't quite ready
[07:12] <NoUse> kdude no, that just syncs passwords
[07:12] <kdude> NoUse: yes, as su..
[07:12] <socketbind> djk_, which model?
[07:12] <NoUse> kdude try #samba
[07:13] <kdude> #samba
[07:13] <kdude> NoUse: ok I will go there.. thanks.
[07:13] <djk_> socketbind: well, LS, model number on the back says: PP01S
[07:14] <makol> !webcam
[07:14] <zion115>  /msg nickserv link <primary-nick> <your-password>
[07:14] <socketbind> djk_, sad thing is, dell notebooks tend to have loads of problems with linux
[07:14] <zion115>  /msg nickserv link  zion zion115
[07:14] <kdude> NoUse: how do you check the status of a user:?
[07:14] <socketbind> djk_: the model number should be something like Dxxx Cxxx
[07:16] <jasongrieves> any idea why nessted X won't work from applicatoin menu
[07:16] <lanjelot> is there a way to edit gnome desktop->administration and preferences menus ?
[07:16] <zion115> soz NoUse, i'm new at this..
[07:16] <NoUse> kdude I forget how to do it via comamds, you can read /etc/passwd
[07:16] <stympy> I'm having problems installing 5.10 to a dell dimension 5150 (sata)... the installer fails as it's trying to load initial packages from the cdrom.  any pointers on what I can do to get this installed?
[07:16] <NoUse> zion115 I don't use lilo so I don't think I can help
[07:16] <djk_> socketbind: well, i can't find anything like that, it's from 2001 so maybe they had it managed differently back then.
[07:17] <zion115> tx anyway
[07:17] <NoUse> zion115 what is wrong with GBUB?
[07:17] <zion115> no UI :)
[07:17] <NoUse> zion115 I've never seen a lilo ui
[07:17] <rojo> hi...i'm new in linux...and i have problems connecting to internet via my isp..can i have some help:)?
[07:18] <zion115> it has that cool wallpaper thing no ?
[07:18] <djk_> socketbind: i could give you the win98 key though if you'd like ;)
[07:18] <NoUse> zion115 that's grub
[07:18] <kdude> NoUse: I ran the commands again -x and -a as 'su' and it works.. thanks man.
[07:18] <ptlo> hi all. any ideas why apt-get install xchat-gnome would want to remove ubuntu-desktop package in breezy?
[07:18] <kdude> :)
[07:18] <HappyFool> rojo: what sort of connection? dial-up/adsl/... ?
[07:18] <socketbind> djk_: thx but I don't need it :D
[07:18] <zion115> hmm.,.. okay so how do i get rid of the text based thing ?
[07:18] <kdude> gonna create a profile directory now.. thanks again.
[07:18] <djk_> socketbind: hehe
[07:19] <NoUse> zion115 read up on grub
[07:19] <rojo> i have a cable conection but t navigate i need to run a certificate
[07:19] <socketbind> djk_: well you should blacklist some modules in /etc/hotplug/blacklist but it's kinda hard to find out which one causes the freeze
[07:19] <jnymo> vmware failed to install correctly and broke my system
[07:19] <jasongrieves> Xlib: connection to ":1.0" refused by server
[07:19] <jasongrieves> Xlib: No protocol specified
[07:19] <pjott> Any good ida for a simple Java installer for Linux Ubuntu? :)
[07:19] <jasongrieves> any idea about tht mesaage/
[07:19] <bronson_> Can anyone tell me why my removable USB disk mounts as root?
[07:19] <HappyFool> pjott: tried the javadebs link from ubotu ?
[07:19] <jasongrieves> pjott, there are numerous posts about installing java
[07:19] <socketbind> djk_: I googled after this stuff and a bunch of people have the same problem but no one of them find out which module caused the problem
[07:19] <rojo> it is possible to run this certificate from boot?
[07:19] <jnymo> pjott: just use sun's installer
[07:19] <djk_> socketbind: so far everything is running fine, even kde - albeit slow, yet faster than xfce.. just that hotplug problem is irritating.
[07:19] <bronson_> I stick it in, it mounts great, but I can't write to it without su'ing first.
[07:20] <NoUse> pjott have you read the java wiki page?
[07:20] <socketbind> djk_: it always hangs or just sometimes?
[07:20] <iratsu> how can i access the fonts supplied in xfonts-jmk?
[07:20] <djk_> socketbind: 2 out of 3 times..
[07:20] <clb_> bronson_: set umask=0 to /etc/fstab?
[07:20] <pjott> HappyFool, yes, I did. But I don't know how to "compile" it... Well, I got the "original" one from Sun Systems. I could not run it, so I tried: "chmod -x /home/pjott/Desktop/java.bin"
[07:20] <djk_> socketbind: usually i try two times, then shut it off, wait a few, and it works.
[07:21] <bronson_> pjott, as long as you only need 1.4, you're great.  1.5 is a hassle.  Just install Sun's package if you require 1.5.
[07:21] <pjott> bronson_, I have it, but it woun't let me open it!
[07:21] <bronson_> clb_, erm, what line in fstab?  This is a removable USB disk.
[07:21] <jnymo> it should be a name longer than just java.bin
[07:21] <kdude> NoUse: is there any synchronisation that creates the /profiles/username automatically? Or do I have to manually create that directory myself for each user I need roaming profile for?
[07:21] <jnymo> its like java1.5_05-linux.bin or something
[07:21] <Agrajag> pjott: you need +x to make it executable
[07:21] <NoUse> kdude I'm not samba expert, sorry
[07:22] <pjott> ah! ok ;)
[07:22] <Agrajag> but I suggest you follow the instruction on the wiki at RestrictedFormats for making a debian package out of that .bin file
[07:22] <kdude> NoUse: :) sorry ..thanks anyways.. bye.
[07:22] <Agrajag> !codecs
[07:22] <ubotu> codecs is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:22] <Agrajag> pjott: read that ^^^
[07:22] <Agrajag> there's a section on java
[07:22] <socketbind> djk_: well I haven't found any usable info yet
[07:22] <clb_> bronson_: I think you should have a line for the usb in fstab..
[07:23] <bronson_> clb_, Ah, that could explain it.
[07:23] <bronson_> I don't
[07:23] <bronson_> Could you paste an example?
[07:23] <jnymo> Agrajag: why do all that java-package crap?
[07:23] <clb_> it shows up as /dev/sda1?
[07:23] <djk_> socketbind: it wouldn't be as problematic if i used that laptop, but it's for my father who isn't much of a pc friend (probably because of the win98-impression he got)
[07:23] <bronson_> clb_, yep
[07:23] <clb_> I have this line: /dev/sda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[07:23] <socketbind> djk_: well I had similar problem with an older notebook too, I disabled APIC and worked perfectly
[07:23] <Agrajag> jnymo: it allows you to install things that depend on java via apt, because it will know that a JRE is installed
[07:24] <socketbind> djk_: but in your case it might be something else
[07:24] <clb_> bronson_: change the second parameter '/' to something like /media/sda1
[07:24] <clb_> and mkdir /media/sda1 first
[07:24] <socketbind> djk_: I'm sure that some buggy module causes the freezes
[07:24] <bronson_> clb_, do you have multiple sd* lines?
[07:24] <jnymo> Agrajag: ahah
[07:24] <bronson_> What happens if I plug in 2 USB disks?
[07:24] <Agrajag> also it's less of a headache to get things like browser plugins installed and so on, because dpkg does all of the work
[07:24] <socketbind> djk_: but it's pretty hard to find out which one
[07:24] <djk_> socketbind: mmh. anything i can run to determine what's causing it?
[07:25] <pjott> "chmod -x /home/pjott/Desktop/java.bin" <-- Is that right?
[07:25] <clb_> bronson_: actually I have no idea..
[07:25] <Agrajag> pjott: no
[07:25] <Agrajag> +x
[07:25] <clb_> I'm not that master at these things
[07:25] <pjott> yeah
[07:25] <pjott> I have that
[07:25] <bronson_> clb_, Ah, your /dev/sda is not actually removable is it?
[07:25] <bronson_> It's serial ata?
[07:25] <pjott> ah!
[07:25] <pjott> done ;)
[07:25] <Agrajag> if you want to run it, but I suggest against that, just make a debian package out of it, it'll make your life easier
[07:25] <clb_> bronson_: well it is removable.. I have installed ubuntu to a removable USB drive
[07:25] <socketbind> djk_: well dmesg and syslog after a crash
[07:26] <jnymo> damn.. my desktop is starting to break
[07:26] <clb_> but yes, sata drives also show up as /dev/sdx
[07:26] <bone_idol> hi...
[07:26] <socketbind> djk_: you should produce a crash, grab a live cd, mount the installed partition and check the dmesg and syslog
[07:26] <jnymo> all because of that vmware crap
[07:26] <pjott> DONE! Now I have Java ;) Thank you all ;D
[07:26] <bone_idol> I'm trying to do a oem install
[07:26] <meheren> can someone plz tell me the unmount command
[07:26] <bone_idol> do i just type oem at 5.10 installation boot ?
[07:26] <Agrajag> jnymo: what vmware crap?
[07:26] <Seveas> bone_idol, yep
[07:27] <bone_idol> neat
[07:27] <bone_idol> does it do a hardware detect on firstboot after install then ?
[07:27] <ubuntu> hey
[07:27] <ubuntu> i have some question
[07:27] <jnymo> Agrajag: I tried installing vmware.. had to download my headers and what not to get it to work.. so it finishes, and then it wont start
[07:27] <bone_idol> I have about 20 old pc's  from our collge we are going to give away
[07:27] <djk_> socketbind: mmh, i shall try that next time
[07:27] <ubuntu> does anyone know how to join two partitions in one
[07:28] <djk_> socketbind: thanks.
[07:28] <bone_idol> and rather than just giving them away blank I wnat to put a distro onthem
[07:28] <socketbind> jnymo: I had a bunch of similar problems with vmware, installing the upgrades fixed that lockup stuff
[07:28] <jnymo> says it has to go through the config again but that just hangs on start.. and the uninstall script hangs on start too
[07:28] <J_Man> ubuntu - you want lvm for that :)
[07:28] <rojo> i have a cable conection but t navigate i need to run a site certificate at boot/startup..thanks
[07:28] <socketbind> djk_: well I hope you'll get it working :D
[07:28] <meheren> how do u unmount something?
[07:28] <socketbind> djk_: ubuntu is way better than win98 :D
[07:28] <bone_idol> so I'm gonna do an oem install
[07:29] <bone_idol> then disk image them ? using pqdi
[07:29] <rojo> i'm still waiting for answer even if it's yes or not about loading a site certificate at boot/startup..thanks
[07:29] <jnymo> socketbind: well, it won't even start
[07:29] <bone_idol> hows that sound ??
[07:29] <socketbind> jnymo: had the same problem
[07:29] <jnymo> and now "add applications" wont start, nor will "system moniter"
[07:29] <socketbind> jnymo: you just need the updates for it, gimme a sec and i'll find the link
[07:29] <CrAzY_DeViL__> join #pazardjik
[07:29] <meheren> plz someone how do you unmount somehting?
[07:29] <meheren> i no its not unmount
[07:29] <meheren> ...
[07:29] <meheren> plz
[07:29] <jeroen_> sudo unmount
[07:30] <jnymo> socketbind: were you using ver.5.0?
[07:30] <meheren> no
[07:30] <meheren> its not sudo unmount
[07:30] <meheren> arrgg
[07:30] <socketbind> jnymo: yes
[07:30] <NoUse> meheren umount
[07:30] <djk_> socketbind: i know, first thing i did  when i got the lappy was formating ;)
[07:30] <meheren> its not unmont!!!
[07:30] <jnymo> meheren: why don't you install a graphical mount utility?
[07:30] <meheren> im on breezy
[07:30] <socketbind> djk_: I love nuking windozes too :D
[07:30] <NoUse> meheren read closer
[07:30] <NoUse> meheren umount
[07:31] <Pierot> Need help for install of Ubuntu in french plz !
[07:31] <NoUse> !fr
[07:31] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[07:31] <meheren> ok thx
[07:31] <Pierot> Merci beaucoup !
[07:31] <meheren> nouse: sry i i mis read thx!
[07:31] <pjott> DAMNIT!!! I've installed Java, but LimeWire whines about that there is no java! >:(
[07:31] <socketbind> jnymo: there are 3 patches, I applied all of them and it made work
[07:31] <Rockett18> jnymo> what would you recommend as a GUI for mounting/unmounting?
[07:32] <socketbind> jnymo: http://ftp.cvut.cz/vmware/vmware-any-any-update92.tar.gz
[07:32] <Pierot> bye bye
[07:32] <socketbind> jnymo: update93 update94 too
[07:32] <NoUse> pjott you have to make sure the java executable is in your path
[07:32] <jeroen_> excuse me for the UNmount (ofcourse it is umount)
[07:32] <jeroen_> here is a link
[07:32] <umberleigh> hey, my dvd-rom drive won't eject using 'eject /dev/hdc', what do i do?
[07:32] <jeroen_> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2514531
[07:32] <The> hey hola alguien me puede decir como es la url del reposiorio  Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" (Binario)
[07:32] <The> ?
[07:32] <ubuntu> i am asking bcs i was intalling ubuntu and ubuntu destroyed one of my partitions
[07:32] <ubuntu> J_Man what do you mean?
[07:32] <HappyFool> umberleigh: make sure it's not in use
[07:32] <ubuntu> i am not really sure what happend but i guess ubuntu devided one partitions into two seperate
[07:32] <socketbind> jnymo: just untar it, and run runme.pl
[07:33] <NoUse> !es
[07:33] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:33] <ubuntu> does anyone know how to join two partitions into one?????????????
[07:33] <ubuntu> does anyone know how to join two partitions into one?????????????
[07:33] <jeroen_> sudo eject
[07:33] <ubuntu> does anyone know how to join two partitions into one?????????????
[07:33] <jnymo> socketbind++ :)
[07:33] <socketbind> jnymo: it'll update the sources of the already installed kernel modules when you first installed vmware
[07:33] <HappyFool> umberleigh: 'sudo eject -s /dev/hdc' worked once when i was desparate
[07:33] <socketbind> jnymo: you just need to reconfigure it
[07:33] <pjott> NoUse, "chmod +x /home/pjott/Desktop/java.bin" -- DONE! -- Terminal: /home/pjott/Desktop/java.bin -- "Run in Terminal" -- DONE -- Installing... -- DONE. But when I'm aboutto open runLime.sh in the LimeWire folder, it says: OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy
[07:33] <socketbind> jnymo: good luck ;)
[07:33] <NoUse> ubuntu please don't repeat yourself like that
[07:33] <socketbind> jnymo: mine worked with these
[07:33] <HappyFool> ubuntu: please don't repeat yourself. and one question mark is fine ;)
[07:33] <umberleigh> HappyFool: it's not. it unmounts thatn gives me the error eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[07:33] <jnymo> Rockett18: i use xfce fstab mount manager
[07:34] <HappyFool> umberleigh: yeah, i think that was when i was desparate
[07:34] <NoUse> pjott you have to alter your PATH and make sure the java exectable is in there
[07:34] <pjott> NoUse, ok ;)
[07:34] <NoUse> pjott google around and you should find something on it
[07:35] <socketbind> anybody has an idea why Dosemu segfaults??? :D
[07:35] <socketbind> I installed it on 5 five machines now, all of them different and it segfaults, segfaults and seeeegfaults :D
[07:35] <umberleigh> HappyFool: sudo eject /dev/hdc worked, though it's really annoying that i should need root access to eject a cd i've mounted
[07:35] <socketbind> I wonder what's wrong with it?
[07:35] <HappyFool> umberleigh: i think it shouldn't be often necessary
[07:35] <suoli> Hey can someone tell me why my x-server doesn't start?
[07:35] <janus> This is probably a common question. I need to install additional software like mplayer, xmms java etc. What sources should i add to my sources.list - and do I need to do more than that?
[07:36] <umberleigh> HappyFool: thanks for your help
[07:36] <socketbind> suoli: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:36] <socketbind> suoli: do you have any (EE) lines?
[07:36] <HappyFool> janus: some stuff, like xmms, is provided by ubuntu.com. other stuff, like java, is not
[07:36] <HappyFool> !tell janus about sources
[07:36] <meheren> quick quetion can u get active x for ubuntu?
[07:36] <meheren> i have wine
[07:36] <HappyFool> !tell janus about javadebs
[07:36] <pjott> "inflating: jre1.5.0_05/lib/cmm/sRGB.pf" <-- So it should have been installed there... :&
[07:37] <socketbind> meheren: afaik only crossover supports activex but that's commercial
[07:37] <meheren> oh ok
[07:37] <meheren> well thx...
[07:37] <suoli> Socketbind you have to be more accurate... I'm just a noob =)
[07:37] <suoli> yet
[07:37] <meheren> no way to get itunes for ubuntu is there?
[07:37] <suoli> what EE?
[07:38] <NoUse> meheren I think crossover can run it
[07:38] <janus> thx - but do you have some advice if it is neccecary to add sources or not to the default list
[07:38] <socketbind> suoli: lines starting with (EE) in /var/log/Xorg.0.log mean errors
[07:38] <suoli> mmkays
[07:38] <meheren> yeh but doesn't that cost like 30bucks?
[07:38] <HappyFool> janus: yeah, you typically need to add sources
[07:38] <socketbind> souli: you should look at them
[07:38] <NoUse> meheren yeah
[07:38] <HappyFool> janus: you can also add them using synaptic (under preferences -> repositories, i think)
[07:39] <suoli> I get this error message before I log in the unix system, says something about some symbols are missing
[07:39] <meheren> nouse:yeh i don't really want to pay for that
[07:39] <suoli> ?
[07:39] <jnymo> socketbind: does it matter where I unpack the tar to?
[07:39] <NoUse> meheren ok
[07:39] <meheren> can u get mac programs working on ubuntu?
[07:39] <socketbind> jnymo: untar it wherever you want :)
[07:39] <Amaranth> no
[07:39] <NoUse> meheren no
[07:39] <suoli> I ment linux
[07:39] <jnymo> coo'
[07:39] <meheren> not even with mol?
[07:39] <corona-> i have this problem with amarok..no help on #amarok can someone look at the errors its throwing up?
[07:40] <NoUse> meheren well you'd need a PPC emulator
[07:40] <socketbind> suoli: well missing symbols are kinda fun, something is totally messed up :D
[07:40] <meheren> i have ubuntu installed on a ppc
[07:40] <NoUse> meheren and you'd probably need to run OSX inside ubutnu
[07:40] <meheren> oh ok
[07:40] <NoUse> meheren ah then I don' tknow
[07:40] <suoli> godadmn
[07:41] <suoli> all I have done is I installed drivers to my ATIx850XT and tried configure the xorg.conf, but that doesn't help
[07:41] <janus> HappyFool: Thanks a lot - I'll try it out
[07:41] <socketbind> suoli: well you should put your Xorg.0.log somewhere and let me check it
[07:42] <suoli> mmm...are here tomorrow?
[07:42] <jnymo> socketbind: i see runme.pl, services.sh, and update . ?
[07:42] <socketbind> jnymo: run runme.pl
[07:42] <suoli> cause I way too annoyed to start ubuntu again=)
[07:42] <jnymo> I'm thinking runme, but update looks pretty appatizing.. ah ok
[07:42] <Lars_G> Greetings all.
[07:43] <suoli> or then I can do it now=)
[07:43] <suoli> wait a sec
[07:43] <socketbind> suoli: well I tend to show up in #ubuntu time to time but I can't promise i'll be there tomorrow
[07:44] <socketbind> jnymo: after applying all the three updates just run vmware-config.pl and everything should get fixed, at least it worked for me
[07:44] <jnymo> socketbind: i did a: sudo perl runme.pl .. and it's just hanging there
[07:44] <pjott> You know what? Sometimes Linux might as well burn in hell! Or... Do I say this because I'm a noob?
[07:44] <Lars_G> Question, Under breezy my Sonix SN9C101 based Genius cam loads well (v4l) drivers, but when I try to capture with any v4l program the whole kernel freezes inmediately. Will I have to recompile my kernel? any ideas?
[07:44] <suoli> socketbind, I forgot to tell, I'm using XP at the moment=)
[07:44] <socketbind> jnymo: that's fun ... well it shouldn't hang, it should display that it's updating the sources
[07:44] <sewoyl> Hi, how can I remove unused 'location' settings in the network settings ??
[07:44] <suoli> tehre is no chanse to go to ubuntu and copy tehm over to windows?
[07:45] <jnymo> socketbind: right.. something's fishy
[07:45] <socketbind> souli: well you can grab the log from the filesystem
[07:45] <socketbind> souli: there is some utility that can read ext2fs filesystems under windoze
[07:45] <socketbind> souli: but i can't remember the name
[07:46] <josh__> i am having trouble with call of duty united offensive as a server on my workstation, i downloaded the large file like i was told but the readme says to put the disc contents into the folder with the "localization.txt", and i don't have that, can anyone help me?
[07:46] <josh__> i am having trouble with call of duty united offensive as a server on my workstation, i downloaded the large file like i was told but the readme says to put the disc contents into the folder with the "localization.txt", and i don't have that, can anyone help me?
[07:46] <superchode|fu> ZOMG2TIMES
[07:47] <socketbind> suoli: ahh it's explore2fs
[07:47] <socketbind> suoli: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[07:47] <socketbind> suoli: you can grab the log with this
[07:47] <ubuntu> ubuntu is a peace of shit it destroyed one of my patitions when i was installing that shit
[07:47] <josh__> ok then why are you in the ubuntu chat?
[07:47] <socketbind> ubuntu: you're not forced to use it
[07:48] <jnymo> socketbind: i don't think there's anything wrong with my perl, cause doing perl -version gets me the version data for perl
[07:48] <pjott> GOD DAMNIT!!!
[07:48] <steigweis> [Off-Topic, but important to me :)]  does anybody know, where I can find the font of that logo? --> http://hektor.umcs.lublin.pl/~zlimn/school/logo.gif
[07:48] <ubuntu> bcs my win2k has sasser
[07:48] <pjott> Why can't I install LimeWire now? >:(
[07:48] <ubuntu> i am using live ubuntu naw
[07:48] <Lars_G> pjott: Because you're under surveilance of the RIAA
[07:48] <jnymo> ubuntu: that's when you reinstall
[07:48] <pjott> I have installed it all, googled it, followed the instructions at Sun Microsystem's page
[07:48] <action09> hi all, what's the mta used in breezy ?
[07:48] <action09> pleas
[07:48] <josh__> then why are you complaining there are people with real problems here
[07:49] <Lars_G> pjott: Btw I've NEVER installed it, I just unpack the zip in a subdir in my home, cd there and run it....
[07:49] <pjott> Lars_G, What the hell are you talking about?
[07:49] <ceej> pjott:why do you want limewire? use Gtk-Gnutella
[07:49] <Lars_G> action09: Personally I use postfix, but I don't know which one is the default
[07:49] <jnymo> pjott: what does java -version say, exactly
[07:49] <pjott> ceej, I was THIS close to find out how to install it
[07:49] <HappyFool> action09: i think it's postfix; not sure if it's installed by default
[07:49] <Agrajag> pjott: did you install java by creating a java package as I suggested?
[07:49] <ceej> pjott: Gtk is alot better though :P
[07:49] <HappyFool> action09: i'm sure sendmail and all the usual suspects are available via the repositories
[07:49] <socketbind> pjott: just grab the .zip version, unzip into your home and run runLime.sh that's it it isn't complicated
[07:50] <Agrajag> Or did you just run the .bin file?
[07:50] <josh__> has anyone installed the call of duty united offensive server edition on their ubuntu station?
[07:50] <socketbind> josh_: as far as I remember I had the localization.txt with that "big file" when I unpacked it
[07:50] <pjott> I don't remember who, but the person told me to go to: "System" --> "Administration" --> "Synpatic"
[07:50] <mahangu> how can i get a list of procesess so i can pkill smething>
[07:50] <superchode|fu> steigweis: try this site: http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/
[07:50] <josh__> so it was in the UO folder when you unpacked the tar.gz file?
[07:50] <HappyFool> mahangu: 'ps aux' is popular
[07:50] <superchode|fu> give it an image of the font text and it'll try and spit out the font used for you
[07:50] <action09> yes but as far as i remember i can't see a mta on it :(  maybe a mua is just needed for home users and it's why there's not mta no ?
[07:51] <socketbind> josh__: it should be, as far as I remember
[07:51] <josh__> hm.. ok
[07:51] <HappyFool> action09: i think that's right, but i also think postfix might be on the install cd
[07:51] <trappist> mahangu: check out pgrep
[07:51] <socketbind> pjott: if you have java installed just grab the .zip version from limewire.com unzip it into your home and run runLime.sh, you shouldn't do anything else, don't bother installing it through synaptic
[07:51] <mahangu> HappyFool, trappist thanks
[07:51] <mahangu> HappyFool, #-offtopic for a sec?
[07:52] <sean_> hello
[07:52] <blacklinux001> nas
[07:52] <socketbind> jnymo: did you managed to get it work?
[07:52] <sean_> how i configure grub____
[07:52] <socketbind> sean_: /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> depends on what you want to do.
[07:53] <sean_> thks
[07:53] <pjott> socketbind, No, it did not work. And seriously, Now I'm gonna rise up and smack my freakin' CRT computer screen. And I'm afraid that if you already have read this, my screen will not work as it did like before...
[07:53] <blacklinux001> descargaros del emule el siguiente archivo si os apetece jugar ;)  desobediencia civil contra seat hckrs.org
[07:53] <socketbind> pjott: calm down, relax :D
[07:53] <samuli> ehee
[07:53] <HappyFool> action09: it is on the install cd. just use synaptic to install it (system -> admin -> synaptic) or 'sudo aptitude install postfix'
[07:53] <socketbind> pjott: everything gonna be okay :D why did the .zip version not work?
[07:53] <action09> ok thx guys :) HappyFool Lars :)
[07:54] <socketbind> pjott: it said you haven't got a java environment?
[07:54] <pjott> socketbind, I'm off for 3 min. Cigarette Break ;P Then I'm gonna do it ;)
[07:54] <socketbind> pjott: o.k.
[07:54] <pjott> socketbind, yes, or the wrong version
[07:54] <pjott> It requires 4.1, and I have 5.1
[07:54] <pjott> ...or something like that
[07:54] <pjott> brb
[07:55] <socketbind> anybody has an idea why dosemu segfaults? :D
[07:55] <socketbind> I now have it on 5 machines and all of them segfaults
[07:55] <Answer> Hello.  Is there a way to turn up system logging so that I can see every file that is changed?  with timestamps maybe?
[07:55] <socketbind> kinda fun :D
[07:57] <Answer> Hello.  Is there a way to turn up system logging so that I can see every file that is changed?  with timestamps maybe?
[07:57] <samuli> onks tl ket suomalaist
[07:57] <pjott> How do I log in?
[07:57] <pjott> I've registred :)
[07:57] <suoli> tllaisen error viestin saan logeissa. /names
[07:58] <Answer> pjott:  /msg nickserv identify <password>
[07:58] <weiers> Hi, I really need help. I somehow broke my CUPS server in the process of trying to edit the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf file. (I'm trying to get my wife's winXP computer to print on my Laserjet printer.) I've used synaptic to uninstall and re-install cups, but I get the same error all the time:  "The CUPS server could not be contacted"
[07:58] <samuli> finland is best
[07:59] <socketbind> weiers: how did you managed to break it? can you tell what did you changed?
[07:59] <bluefrog-10> weiers, complete removal of cups, remove cups.conf, reinstall, start cups
[07:59] <Answer> weiers, you can do apt-get remove with the Purge option to completely uninstall
[07:59] <pjott> socketbind, I'm back ;)
[07:59] <socketbind> weiers: or purge it of course
[07:59] <HappyFool> weiers: the purge idea sounds good. also maybe 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure cupsys'
[08:00] <StDellis> how do I force quit a process such as XMMS
[08:00] <StDellis> I cant get it to close
[08:00] <Suoli> Ok Socketbind this is the error message that I get in the logs: Skipping "usr/X11R6/modules/extension/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o": No symbols found
[08:00] <Suoli> and finally Fatal error: Module Load error
[08:01] <socketbind> Suoli: hmm well afaik the ATI driver doesn't needs the GLcore extension
[08:01] <socketbind> Suoli: so I think you can safely remove it
[08:01] <Answer> StDellis, type ps -ef, find the pid then type kill pid :)
[08:01] <weiers> Thank you. What is the simplest to return it to a clean install? the sudo dpkg-reconfigure cupsys sounds quickest (HappyFool, socketbind, Answer, bluefrog-10)
[08:01] <Suoli> and how do I remove it?
[08:01] <HappyFool> StDellis: from a terminal try 'pkill xmms' or maybe 'xkill' and then click on the xmms window
[08:01] <trappist> StDellis: pgrep
[08:01] <socketbind> weiers: dpkg --purge cupsys
[08:01] <socketbind> Souli: search for a section called "Modules"
[08:01] <StDellis> thanks
[08:02] <jasongrieves> any idea why nessted X won't work from applicatoin menu?
[08:02] <Suoli> and then what?
[08:02] <socketbind> Souli: and put a # before a line like Load "GLcore"
[08:02] <socketbind> Souli: just comment it out
[08:02] <Answer> weiers, use apt-get remove with the purge option.  then just reinstall it however you want (apt-get install, synaptic, whatevr)
[08:02] <Answer> Hello.  Is there a way to turn up system logging so that I can see every file that is changed?  with timestamps maybe?
[08:02] <Suoli> and that should work?
[08:03] <socketbind> Suoli: well I suppose..., afaik the ATI driver doesn't need that module loaded
[08:03] <weiers> Interesting the dpkg --purge cupsys provides the following feedback: dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove cypsys which isn't installed.
[08:03] <solidgroove> i am getting an error from gnomebaker that something is not installed to decode mp3
[08:04] <solidgroove> what do I need to install?
[08:04] <bluefrog-10> weiers, if you fiddle with cups.conf ther is a chance that reinstalling or recionfiguring won't overwrite the file
[08:04] <Suoli> ok thanx
[08:04] <NickolasName> Hi.  I am running ubunutu 5.10 on a dell laptop and the wireless card isn't showing up.  It's the 2200, using the ipw2200 driver.  I just updated the firmware, the ieee80211, and the ipw2200 to the latest release.  Can someone help me?
[08:04] <weiers> bluefrog-10, can I just delete the file?
[08:04] <Answer> NickolasName, type in ifconfig, do you see eth1 ?
[08:04] <troughton> hello
[08:04] <socketbind> solidgroove: gstreamer0.8-mad but i'm not confident lemme check it ;)
[08:05] <bluefrog-10> weiers, u try but by the time u finsih asking questions, removing, deleting and reinstalling would be over...
[08:05] <troughton> i am needing advice on making an internet conection can anyone help ?
[08:05] <solidgroove> socketbind, thanks
[08:06] <socketbind> solidgroove: oh sry, it isn't gstreamer0.8-mad, it needs mpg321
[08:06] <NickolasName> answer i do not.  only eth0
[08:06] <HappyFool> troughton: what sort of connection? dial-up, adsl, .... ?
[08:06] <solidgroove> i have those now
[08:06] <Answer> NickolasName, try  ifconfig eth1 up
[08:06] <troughton> adsl on a broadband modem
[08:06] <troughton> usb
[08:06] <weiers> Ok... bluefrog-10 I'm gong to remove cups and everything that has anything to do with it, delete the config files, and reinstall then.
[08:06] <NickolasName> output: eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[08:07] <bluefrog-10> weiers, especially the file you played with
[08:07] <Answer> NickolasName, i'm afraid that ubuntu does not see your wireless device.  it is built in or pcmcia?
[08:07] <Answer> weiers, apt-get remove --purge
[08:07] <NickolasName> it's built in.  mini PCI
[08:07] <dts> What's the best way to keep two home folders synchronized
[08:08] <weiers> Answer, sorry... I'm still new, do I type apt-get remove --purge (cups? or something)?
[08:08] <Answer> NickolasName, run sudo network-admin from the command line.  It should show device eth1
[08:08] <Answer> weiers, apt-get remove --purge <packagenamehere>
[08:08] <Answer> How can I log all changes made to files on my system?
[08:09] <NickolasName> i only see the 'ethernet connection' and 'modem connection'
[08:09] <trappist> Answer: install and configure tripwire
[08:09] <trappist> or changetrack
[08:09] <blackhat> !limewire
[08:09] <ubotu> [limewire]  first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[08:09] <Answer> trappist, can't I just turn up system logging somehow?
[08:10] <Answer> NickolasName, check that the mini pci card is fully seated in it's socket and that the two wires are connected.  ubuntu is not seeing that device
[08:10] <NickolasName> thanks answer
[08:10] <HappyFool> troughton: this might help
[08:10] <trappist> Answer: changes to files aren't generally tracked, and therefore not logged.  you could run a system-wide fam daemon to log them on the fly, but that would drag you down badly.  or you could install something that checks files for changes on a regular basis like tripwire or changetrack.
[08:10] <HappyFool> !tell troughton about adsl
[08:11] <HappyFool> troughton: i unfortunately am not familiar with adsl, so i can't help more
[08:12] <Answer> troughton, have you gone into your router and put in your username and password?  192.168.1.1 usually
[08:12] <skippy> I'm sure this has been asked before; but if Mark Shuttleworth can buy his way into space, why can't he legally license MP3/DVD playback for Ubuntu?  (note: this is not meant to be a slam / smear -- I'm genuinely curious)
[08:12] <Answer> trappist, which is better, tripwire or changetrack :)
[08:13] <technomancy> i've got a problem with switching virtual terminals on breezy--when I press ctrl-alt-1 and then try to go back to my X display, it permanently blacks out
[08:13] <zion115> hi guys, i am trying to change the background of my grub startup, added this splashimage (hd0,1)/boot/grub/images/ubuntu.xpm.gz \n to my menu.lst, but it garbles all the text and then loads normally. i found the tip to do it on ubuntuguide.org
[08:13] <trappist> skippy: you can't give something away, make it free for other people to redistribute it, and collect fees for included proprietary software
[08:13] <technomancy> anybody got any tips? I can't get the display back except by a reboot
[08:13] <trappist> technomancy: what video card
[08:13] <technomancy> it's an integrated intel one
[08:13] <Answer> skippy, the legality depends on what country you use ubuntu from so it is not cost effective to pursue the licensing in every country....
[08:13] <technomancy> 82830 CGC
[08:14] <Answer> technomancy, you're pressing ctrl+alt + F 1 right ?  not just 1 ?
[08:14] <technomancy> yeah, that's right
[08:14] <mirak_> how to use bootstrap with ubuntu ?
[08:14] <trappist> technomancy: I've only seen that with some nvidia cards, where it's a framebuffer issue.  you might try booting with no framebuffer.
[08:14] <skippy> trappist: I'm not entirely familiar with the licensing details; is it impossible to purchase a license for use without fees?   Lots of Wintel DVD playback software is bundled without (an outright, to the customer, at least) fee
[08:14] <mirak_> how to use "debootstrap" with ubuntu ?
[08:14] <technomancy> i'll try that.
[08:14] <weiers> Answer, Bluefrog-10, I think I did it: removed cupsys, cupsys-client, cupsys-driver-gimpprinit, and cupsys-pt. I got one message that /var/run/cups is not empty and therefore not removed. Should I worry about this? Do I now just re-install cupssys, cupsys-client etc. or do I reboot?
[08:14] <technomancy> i can switch to ctrl-alt-1 etc if i kill gdm, but if X is active at the time, it gets messy
[08:15] <weiers> Answer, Bluefrog-10, Oh, yes... I used the aptget --purge command
[08:15] <trappist> skippy: trust me, fees are paid for that stuff and passed on to the customer.  but the gpl makes it illegal to bundle software for which distribution fees are required, because ubuntu itself has to stay redistributable.
[08:15] <Answer> weiers, delete everything you can find that is related and thus maybe corrupted
[08:15] <zion115> hi guys, i am trying to change the background of my grub startup, added this splashimage (hd0,1)/boot/grub/images/ubuntu.xpm.gz \n to my menu.lst, but it garbles all the text and then loads normally. i found the tip to do it on ubuntuguide.org
[08:16] <zion115> any ideas on how to get it to work ?
[08:17] <root__> how i instal draiver for amd64?
[08:18] <blueblood> "If the distribution you are using provides a configuration mechanism for audio drivers, use it to select the nvsound driver module for use with the nForce audio device. Otherwise, manually edit the module configuration file.
[08:18] <blueblood> "
[08:18] <blueblood> How do I do that?
[08:18] <sean_> how do i install a driver dor amd64 procesor????
[08:18] <meheren> how do you uninstall something
[08:18] <blackhat> Whats a good program for ripping DVDs in Linux with GUI easily, like DVDDecrypter for Windows.. =/
[08:18] <blueblood> it's for the sounddriver
[08:18] <Kyral> meheren, sudo apt-get remove <package>
[08:19] <jnymo> anyone know how to debug a perl file that hangs on start?
[08:19] <meheren> like install is apt-get install bzflag how do i uninstall bzflag?
[08:19] <meheren> ok thx
[08:19] <meheren> kral; thx
[08:19] <weiers> Answer, ok, I did that, I suppose I just re-install now (without rebooting)
[08:19] <sean_> how do i install a driver dor amd64 procesor????
[08:19] <Kyral> A driver FOR the processor?
[08:19] <Goshawk> meheren, apt-get --purge remove bzflag
[08:19] <sean_> zes
[08:19] <Kyral> You don't need to
[08:19] <sean_> yes kzral
[08:19] <Kyral> Goshawk, the purge op is only on aptitude
[08:20] <meheren> Goshawk: thx
[08:20] <pjott> sean_: http://www.lavalys.com/ install "Everest Home Edition". There it will detect your Processor, and give you a link to the download page
[08:20] <Goshawk> meheren, add --purge if you want the config files delete
[08:20] <sean_> are you sure
[08:20] <Kyral> so it would be sudo aptitude purge <package>
[08:20] <meheren> yeh  i no thx
[08:20] <Goshawk> Kyral, what?? do man apt-get
[08:20] <Kyral> Goshawk, my bad
[08:20] <Goshawk> :D
[08:20] <Kyral> Aptitude is just faster :P
[08:20] <Suoli> ok now my problem seems to be or I just didn't saw it that the kernel can't load glx module and something bout sub modules...????
[08:20] <sean_> for cool end quiet
[08:20] <Suoli> *about
[08:20] <Kyral> sean_, just install the AMD64 version of Ubuntu
[08:20] <Goshawk> Kyral, really i use aptitute only in interactive mode :D
[08:21] <sean_> k
[08:21] <sean_> nvidia driver
[08:21] <Kyral> Goshawk, I only command line commando apt :D
[08:21] <blackhat> Whats a good program for ripping DVDs in Linux with GUI easily, like DVDDecrypter for Windows.. =/
[08:21] <sean_> how a install????
[08:21] <zion115> hi guys, i am trying to change the background of my grub startup, added this splashimage (hd0,1)/boot/grub/images/ubuntu.xpm.gz \n to my menu.lst, but it garbles all the text and then loads normally. i found the tip to do it on ubuntuguide.org
[08:21] <nalioth> sean_: if you use the amd64 arch, you're gonna have a lot of trouble playing closed format audio/video
[08:21] <Suoli> socketbindok now my problem seems to be or I just didn't saw it that the kernel can't load glx module and something bout sub modules...????
[08:21] <medgno> blackhat, I use acidrip, but it's a bit tricky to use
[08:21] <Kyral> sean sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:21] <sean_> yes a know
[08:21] <blackhat> medgno where can I get it from
[08:21] <sean_> suoli
[08:22] <Suoli> tell me sean?
[08:22] <medgno> blackhat, I think it's in either universe or multiverse
[08:22] <blueblood> Add the following lines to the configuration file:
[08:22] <blueblood> alias sound-slot-0 nvsound
[08:22] <blueblood> alias snd-intel8x0 off
[08:22] <blueblood> alias i810_audio off
[08:22] <blueblood> what config file?
[08:22] <blueblood> verry vauge description :(
[08:22] <blueblood> (nForce sound driver)
[08:22] <Kyral> blueblood, .bash_alias
[08:22] <Kyral> in home
[08:22] <Kyral> I think
[08:22] <sean_> thx guys
[08:22] <Kyral> that looks like alias defs
[08:22] <skippy> blackhat: I used dvd-backup with success (http://dvd-backup.sf.net)
[08:22] <blackhat> thanks guys
[08:23] <blackhat> skippy, the page is broekn
[08:24] <mirak_> I tried a deboostrap of a x86 system on amd64 : debootstrap --verbose --foreign --arch i386  breezy x86/  http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  but it stalls on cheking phase
[08:24] <zion115> hi guys, i am trying to change the background of my grub startup, added this splashimage (hd0,1)/boot/grub/images/ubuntu.xpm.gz \n to my menu.lst, but it garbles all the text and then loads normally. i found the tip to do it on ubuntuguide.org
[08:24] <skippy> blackhat: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/utils/dvdbackup
[08:24] <Goshawk> skippy, do dvd-backup has a gui?
[08:24] <sean_> just sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx????????????
[08:24] <skippy> Goshawk: no.
[08:25] <Kyral> sean_, it should pull in whatever it needs
[08:25] <skippy> Goshawk: `dvdbackup -i /dev/dvd -o /home/movies/`  and you're done.
[08:25] <sean_> i dont understand
[08:25] <Kyral> then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:25] <Goshawk> skippy, so, it's easy... and do it will produce a .iso?
[08:25] <Kyral> sean_ do this
[08:25] <skippy> Goshawk: no, it produces a directory compatible with dvdauthor and growisofs.
[08:25] <josh__> does anyone now how to share files from a windows machine to an ubuntu station and vica versa?
[08:25] <josh__> know*
[08:25] <sean_> i do that
[08:25] <Kyral> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:26] <skippy> josh__: samba
[08:26] <Kyral> then
[08:26] <sean_> that all????
[08:26] <josh__> but how do you set it up?|
[08:26] <Kyral> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:26] <sean_> then....
[08:26] <Suoli> ok now my problem seems to be or I just didn't saw it that the kernel can't load glx module and something bout sub modules...????
[08:26] <skippy> josh__: `man smb.conf` !  =)
[08:26] <Kyral> restart X
[08:26] <Kyral> with CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[08:26] <sewoyl> josh__, after its installed you can right click on a folder and chose 'share' ...
[08:26] <sean_> k
[08:26] <bluefrog-10> sean_, sudo modprobe nvidia  and afterwrads restart x
[08:26] <sewoyl> josh__, even before its installed it will prompt ou to do so
[08:27] <Kyral> I thought that the GLX package modprobed for you
[08:27] <josh__> ok
[08:27] <Suoli> ok now my problem seems to be or I just didn't saw it that the kernel can't load glx module and something bout sub modules...????!
[08:27] <clb_> what is the ubuntu equivalent for conf.modules ??
[08:27] <Kyral> Suoli, the error msg would help
[08:27] <Goshawk> skippy, what about protected dvds?
[08:27] <skippy> Goshawk: you'll need libdvdcss.
[08:27] <zion115> hi guys, i am trying to change the background of my grub startup, added this splashimage (hd0,1)/boot/grub/images/ubuntu.xpm.gz \n to my menu.lst, but it garbles all the text and then loads normally. i found the tip to do it on ubuntuguide.org
[08:27] <Kyral> clb_, you mean a file listing what modules should be loaded at boot?
[08:27] <pedidos> hola a todos
[08:28] <Suoli> damn, well I have to get back here tomorrow
[08:28] <Suoli> then
[08:28] <clb_> Kyral: yeah.. I need some manual parameters and I put them to conf.modules in sus
[08:28] <clb_> e
[08:28] <HiddenFly> Is there any way to disable the touchpad from my laptop and enable it when wanted?
[08:28] <skippy> zion115: please stop saying the same thing.  Clearly no one has an answer for you.  Asking again and again will not magically produce an answer.
[08:28] <Kyral> I think its /etc/modules
[08:28] <Xcerca> hey,  how do i log in as root to my computer
[08:28] <clb_> Kyral: it won't work :(
[08:28] <Kyral> uhh, then I dunno...
[08:28] <medgno> clb_, I think it's in /etc/modprobe.d/ and then whichever file you want. You then need to run update-modules after that.
[08:28] <soundray> HiddenFly, there is usually a way. It depends on the make of your touchpad.
[08:28] <Kyral> ubotu tell Xcerca about RootSudo
[08:29] <weiers> Answer, Bluefrog-10, Thank you, I have cupsys re-installed and everything else. But now I am going to try to get the WinXP printing work again, and perhaps break CUPS again!
[08:29] <clb_> medgno: just make a new file there?
[08:29] <Xcerca> RootSudo ?
[08:29] <medgno> clb_, that's what I did
[08:29] <Kyral> Read the page :D
[08:29] <clb_> medgno: ok I gotta try that
[08:29] <Kyral> that Ubotu pmsged you
[08:29] <Xcerca> thanks
[08:29] <HiddenFly> soundray: propably synaptics, atleast manufacturer provides me synaptics drivers for windows
[08:29] <Goshawk> Xcerca, root in ubuntu is "inibited"
[08:29] <soundray> HiddenFly, that's a pretty good indication.
[08:29] <medgno> clb_, and don't forget to do a   sudo update-modules
[08:29] <bluefrog-10> weiers, u shouldn't have to play with conf. use the printing tools
[08:30] <soundray> HiddenFly, check out the package tpconfig
[08:31] <HiddenFly> soundray: ok, thanks
[08:31] <clb_> medgno: if I put a file with only one line 'pcnet32 homepna=1' would that then pass the param automatically when I do modprobe pcnet32
[08:31] <Goshawk> skippy, have you tried dvd::rip yet?
[08:31] <skippy> Goshawk: no.
[08:31] <Mabus06> how do you change your msn display name on gaim?
[08:31] <medgno> clb_, if that's what you would've put in the modules.conf, then I guess so. Mine has 'options bttv tuner=43' in it
[08:32] <clb_> medgno: oh I guess I need the options param there
[08:32] <soundray> HiddenFly, searching for synaptics in synaptic brings up a couple other things as well.
[08:32] <HiddenFly> k
[08:32] <weiers> bluefrog-10, I've tried that, but I am not sure that I have it right - in fact, when I define my printer as a network printer on 10.0.65.3, I cannot even print to the printer from my own desktop. Am I doing something fundamentally wrong?
[08:32] <sean_> max refresh is 60 hz for gforce4mx in ubuntu??????
[08:33] <sean_> max refresh is 60 hz for gforce4mx in ubuntu??????
[08:33] <Yogarin1> sean_: you can configure that in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:33] <sean_> k
[08:33] <Yogarin1> ;)
[08:34] <Yogarin1> sean_: lemme check
[08:34] <bluefrog-10> weiers, what printer? usb
[08:34] <weiers> no, it is a Hewlett Packard HP 5L (Quite old normal printing cable)
[08:34] <Yogarin1> sean_: under the section 'monitor' change the VertRefresh
[08:35] <sean_> driver for monitor???
[08:35] <sean_> how a install that???
[08:36] <philip> Ive got an epson 4180 scanner that doesnt want to work with ubuntu
[08:36] <pal4d1n_> lo all
[08:36] <Yogarin1> sean_: you dont need that, you just need to change the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the values under the section monitor
[08:36] <sewoyl> I don't think he understands what you said
[08:36] <bluefrog-10> weiers, if your printer is connected to your pc, can't you declare it as local printer?
[08:36] <ICE9> how do I restart my services  /etc/services
[08:36] <philip> i get an error saying "unable to ParDevice::Open hp:/par/ANY?device=/dev/parport0: No such file or directory: io/hpiod/ppdevice.cpp 827"
[08:37] <philip> in my /var/log/syslog anyone got any ideas?
[08:37] <Goshawk> sean_, linux != windows you don't have to install drivers for each hardware
[08:37] <pal4d1n_> whois skippy
[08:37] <philip> normally :\
[08:37] <soundray> Goshawk, sean_ is away.
[08:38] <weiers> Hi Bluefrog-10, I can install the printer as a local printer, and then it works. But then I still don't know how to get my wife's XP box to recognise my printer
[08:38] <Yogarin1> sewoyl: well, cant say i didnt try :P
[08:38] <medgno> philip, according to http://sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-EPSON  it seems that the linux scanner thing doesn't support it
[08:38] <_willcooke_> Anyone else getting a gpg error with apt?
[08:39] <pjott> Where do I find codecs for Linux Ubuntu?
[08:39] <sewoyl> sean_ whats your language?
[08:39] <Goshawk> soundray, yep, thanks
[08:39] <sewoyl> oh hes gone :p
[08:39] <Goshawk> pjott, do you mean codecs to play wma and wmv?
[08:39] <philip> oh.  Im sure it said it was :\
[08:40] <bluefrog-10> weiers, try installing samba, sry am in middle of something can't help u much
[08:40] <pjott> Goshawk, no, to play mp3's, avi's, divx etc.
[08:40] <Goshawk> pjott, mp3 = gstreamer0.8-mad
[08:40] <sewoyl> im interested in the codecs for WMx
[08:41] <Agrajag> pjott: thi sis the third and last time that I will direct you to
[08:41] <pjott> Goshawk, do I find that at "Add Applications" or "Synpatic" ?
[08:41] <Goshawk> pjott, avi's,divx, i'm not sure but it should be gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[08:41] <Agrajag> pjott: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats
[08:41] <gismo> salve
[08:41] <Goshawk> pjott, synaptic
[08:41] <pjott> Agrajag, Thanks ;)
[08:41] <Goshawk> ciao gilligan_
[08:41] <Goshawk> ops
[08:41] <weiers> Thanks bluefrog-10. Will try
[08:41] <Goshawk> ciao gismo
[08:41] <gismo> is there a italian user???
[08:41] <Goshawk> si ma vai su #ubuntu-it
[08:41] <Agrajag> !it
[08:41] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese, Grazie...
[08:41] <philip> its listed as compatiable with the epokawa backend
[08:41] <Goshawk> qui si parla solo italiano
[08:41] <snowowl> pjott: try ffmpeg
[08:41] <Goshawk> ops.. english
[08:42] <gismo> on grazie
[08:42] <britishseapower5> why no sound ion frozen bubble ?
[08:42] <HappyFool> !en
[08:42] <ubotu> rumour has it, en is Queen's English Speakers, Essex inhabitants who may all go to #ubuntu-en also allowed in is anyone from the Island of Great Britain
[08:42] <blackhat> When I try to use DVDBACKUP, I get this libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
[08:42] <blackhat> anyway to bypass?
[08:42] <Goshawk> blackhat, install the lirary
[08:43] <Agrajag> blackhat: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats
[08:43] <Goshawk> s/lirary/library
[08:43] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:43] <oneman> hi
[08:43] <britishseapower5> why no sound ion frozen bubble ?
[08:43] <pjott> It's downloading many packages from Ubuntu now. But I'm suprised over how much Ubuntu Team uses by writing "...remember that non-free media is illegal..."
[08:43] <gismo> scusate...
[08:43] <gismo> chi mi darebbe una mano??
[08:43] <Seveas> !it
[08:43] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese, Grazie...
[08:43] <pjott> gismo, English please
[08:43] <Seveas> stick to english in hete
[08:43] <Seveas> here*
[08:44] <oneman> Can someone please provide me with a stock /boot/grub/menu.lst file? http://www.rafb.net/paste/
[08:44] <Goshawk> gismo, chiamami in pvt
[08:44] <Goshawk> gismo, or... speack in English
[08:44] <pjott> Goshawk, please speak your mother language ;P Your English sucks ;P
[08:44] <Goshawk> s/speack/speak
[08:45] <Goshawk> pjott, it's the tiny laptop keyboard
[08:45] <HiddenWolf> !nl
[08:45] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[08:45] <HiddenWolf> lol
[08:45] <gismo> sentite...
[08:45] <pjott> Goshawk: Ever tried to play games on that?
[08:45] <pjott>  ;P
[08:45] <blackhat> I get this error when trying to use dvdbackup - Error reading BUP for title set 1
[08:45] <pjott> lol
[08:45] <blackhat> whats this mean?
[08:45] <HiddenWolf> !de
[08:45] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[08:45] <gismo> sapete per caso come si fa a installare un tema gnome con ubuntu??
[08:45] <Tyrael> hello Hello Ubuntu. I must say Is the best I've seen for client side
[08:46] <Kromonos_> hi guys
[08:46] <SGershon> gismo,
[08:46] <SGershon> !it
[08:46] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese, Grazie...
[08:46] <Tyrael> One Question Tho
[08:46] <Kromonos_> I need help installing wlan
[08:46] <sewoyl> Tyrael, are you using LTSP??ive always wondered how well it performed
[08:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Kromonos_ about wireless
[08:46] <Kejk_PL> Hi,Program I need uses WSALookupServiceBeginA (WinSocks). This is unimplemented in wine, so can I use windows dll? Which one?
[08:47] <Tyrael> Can I change the Applications Icon, On the Toolbar(sewoyl: No But ive been looking into it) Any one? Anyone got an IDEA?
[08:47] <Goshawk> pjott, never... it's my first 7 days old laptop :D
[08:47] <Kromonos_> iwconfig is no problem with my  Network controller: Intersil Corporation ISL3886 [Prism Javelin/Prism Xbow] , but a ifconfig eth0 up brings, that SIOCSIFFLAGS: File not fond
[08:47] <Kromonos_> :(
[08:47] <Kromonos_> what can I do?
[08:47] <Tyrael> Kromonos. PM Me i may be able to help
[08:48] <sewoyl> Tyrael, on the bar?? right click on them
[08:48] <Tyrael> I know
[08:48] <Tyrael> If he wants help he can find my name
[08:48] <Tyrael> lol
[08:48] <pjott> How do I make a short-cut for a folder that is in "Home" to "Desktop" ?
[08:49] <huatao> ls
[08:49] <ceej> pjott: right click make link drag to desktop?
[08:50] <mp3guy> where can i get the nvidia legacy drivers, for a Riva TNT?
[08:50] <soundray> pjott: on the command line, 'ln -s ~/Folder ~/Desktop/'
[08:50] <pjott> ceej, I don't want to move it, just make a short-cut
[08:50] <ICE9> how do you restart xinetd
[08:51] <ICE9> /etc/xinetd.d restart right
[08:51] <ceej> pjott:that will make a shortcut if u right click and make link
[08:51] <pjott> k ;)
[08:51] <ceej> pjott: :)
[08:51] <cyberix_> Is there a log somewhere for IP-addresses I've got with dhcp?
[08:51] <cyberix_> I'd like to see, if my address has changed.
[08:51] <blackhat> is there anyway to play *.wmv files
[08:51] <cyberix_> And I don't know my old addresses
[08:52] <dan_> hi all !
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> blackhat:  try vlc, mplayer and xine (with the w32 codecs) yet?
[08:52] <cyberix_> blackhat: You should get your hand on w32codecs deb-package and install is
[08:52] <cyberix_> it
[08:52] <ceej> cyberix_: System -> Administration -> Networking
[08:52] <pjott> Thanks ceej! :D
[08:52] <cyberix_> blackhat: But it is illegal
[08:52] <ceej> pjott: np
[08:52] <cyberix_> blackhat: Or quetionable
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> :P
[08:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell blackhat about w32codecs
[08:53] <Goshawk> blackhat, install the codecs and run totem :D
[08:53] <Validdot> Hello, if I have windows on hd(0,0) and a reinstall it, how can I reinstall GRUB without reinst ubuntu?
[08:53] <Kromonos_> Tyrael: hmm, one moment, I have to relog on with my registered name :)
[08:53] <ceej> cyberix_: then click DNS tab :)
[08:53] <oneman> http://industrialstrengthsolutions.com/ubuntu-centrino/
[08:53] <blackhat> Connection refused.
[08:53] <snowowl> Totem is horible get VCL and MPlayer
[08:53] <snowowl> horible with two 'r's
[08:53] <cyberix_> Totem-xine works ok
[08:54] <cyberix_> Totem-gstreamer is great, but doesn't workl
[08:54] <cyberix_> -l
[08:54] <Goshawk> Validdot, if i'm not wrong you should install windows and thell install grub because windows writes on the MBR
[08:54] <cyberix_> ceej: Well. I'd have to see the IPs on my firewall which hasn't got desktop installed
[08:55] <Tyrael> sorry AFK
[08:55] <cyberix_> ceej: And those are just DNS-addresses. Not my old IP-addresses.
[08:55] <ceej> cyberix_: sorry will have alook where logs are kept :)
[08:55] <dan_> validdot : why reinstall grub ?! if windoofs is to use a partition where an other win* was, there is no problem for the existing GRUB, alse, if win* comes new, it is good to make place for it AS THE LAST PARTITION, so that GRUB still has the same names for Linux
[08:56] <ICE9> anyone how to restart xinetd I looked in man files can't find it
[08:56] <Goshawk> dan_, if you reninstall windows, it will delete the mbr (installing its bootloader), isn't it?
[08:57] <theine> !skype
[08:57] <ubotu> somebody said skype was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:57] <weiers> Hi, I am still not succeeding. Is there a simple way to print from a Win XP box (IP address 10.0.65.4) to my Hewlett Packard 5L printer which is installed and working on my Breezy box (IP address 10.0.65.3)? If I can do this, I will probably never have to use my dual boot functionality (which I used to use for my wife to print her windows documents)
[08:57] <TheGladiator> hi
[08:57] <TheGladiator> i have a problem
[08:57] <Tyrael> you know the little Ubuntu Red/Orange circle thingy... I want to change that. I think the may have modified the bar itself because i installed a Icon pac that had a new icon but id didnt change even after several reboots
[08:57] <Tyrael> wazza Gladiator
[08:57] <TheGladiator> i installde linux and then had to format my xp
[08:57] <Tyrael> u fucked up eh.
[08:57] <TheGladiator> after that he boot option doesnt come up!
[08:57] <TheGladiator> yeah!
[08:57] <ryanred> weiers - maybe get a network print server?  dual booting for printing sounds like a pain
[08:58] <dan_> Goshawk : as far as i know not necessarily, win* MUST BE TOLD to use the specified partition... (and not the default one)
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> weiers:  set up the printer as a shared samba printer - and tell windows box to access the network printer.
[08:58] <TheGladiator> the lin is still in my hdd though
[08:58] <ceej> windows sucks just dont use it anyway lol
[08:58] <Tyrael> You need to watch that when installing Linux you tell grub that XP is there
[08:58] <weiers> hi ryanred... it is a pain.
[08:58] <pjott> mmmMMMMMMmmm... Freeeeeeeench Frieeeeesss.....
[08:58] <TheGladiator> ah
[08:58] <ryanred> weiers: dr_willis had a better suggestion :)
[08:58] <TheGladiator> so now what is the work around ?
[08:58] <dan_> Goshawk : but i did only bad experiences with win*, so my advice here may fail
[08:58] <TheGladiator> will i have to reinstall ?
[08:59] <weiers> Dr_Willis, I promise that I've been trying to do that... but I must be putting some paramater in wrongly somewhere, because then I can't get it to print even on my Breezy
[08:59] <blackhat> Anyone here a blackbox user? where is the the directory of the menu so I can edit it
[09:00] <trappist> blackhat: well in fluxbox, which is a blackbox derivative, it's ~/.fluxbox/menu
[09:00] <xbox_sky> hi guys.. sorry but I got a nasty fever (brain dead) I just started the GUI of ubuntu's firewall (firestarter) and it kills my entire connection when I turn it on, shouldn't permissive allow most of the traffic?
[09:01] <TheGladiator> ny idea?
[09:01] <Goshawk> dan_, i installed win + ubuntu many times, and when win goes down (win system can run at least 3 months without trouble), when i reinstall it in the same partition it deletes my grub stage 1, so i should use ubuntu live to install grub..
[09:01] <enkrav> Hello, since I would like to install ubuntu on a PC *without* internet and develop gnome apps with my question is: does the default ubuntu 5.10 ship with all neccessary developer tools to develop gnome apps? Gtk+, Gnome-VFS, etc?
[09:01] <stimpie> How do I change my gtk settings when using enlightenment?
[09:01] <medgno> enkrates, no
[09:02] <enkrav> medgno, what should I do? Put packages on a dvd and install from there?
[09:02] <medgno> enkrates, that could work. I'm really not sure how to best do it.
[09:02] <xbox_sky> is there another firewall I could use?
[09:02] <Goshawk> enkrarav, exactly
[09:03] <pjott> What's the "standard" URL to DC++ ?
[09:03] <dan_> Goshawk : oh, i see, i had no problems with a win2000 version, but xp may be more aggressive... sorry.
[09:03] <weiers> Dr_Willis, OK... perhaps you could help me here... I've now installed the printer as a smb printer on the network, now it says : ready: parallell port busy: will retry in 60 seconds
[09:03] <xbox_sky> it doesn't make any sense... permissive should work
[09:03] <pjott> No, not the download, but to the hubs
[09:03] <enkrav> Or, wich I think is better, I think I'll download all the sources of Gtk, libgnome* etc. and compile them from scratch.
[09:03] <trappist> xbox_sky: try ipkungfu
[09:03] <Gdp_usrlam> greeting!!! from argentina
[09:03] <xbox_sky> googling for it
[09:03] <Gdp_usrlam> greetingS :P
[09:05] <xbox_sky> trappist.. I can't find any screenies how it looks like
[09:05] <weiers> Dr_Willis, Wait a Minute! I think I fixed it, don't ask me how! But it seems when I print to the Samba-printer, it immediately transfers the job to the local printer and the testpage goes through. I suppose I can now just go to my wife's XP computer and see if I can find this Samba printer on the network
[09:05] <trappist> xbox_sky: it's not gui
[09:05] <xbox_sky> trappist..ugh im new to linux.. I would prefer a grapichal interface
[09:06] <ICE9> how do you start xinetd
[09:06] <ICE9> ?
[09:06] <soundray> xbox_sky, come on, be courageous.
[09:06] <trappist> xbox_sky: firestarter is the way to go then
[09:06] <chrisx1> hey i have problem trying to run a bin file
[09:06] <Goshawk> soundray, lol
[09:06] <trappist> xbox_sky: ipkungfu is pretty simple to configure, with easily readable config files
[09:06] <xbox_sky> Doesn't mean I don't use terminal..in fact I love it... but firestarter I don't understand what's the issue...
[09:07] <snowowl> xbox_sky try GUARDDOG
[09:07] <xbox_sky> hmm
[09:07] <trappist> xbox_sky: and it should work pretty well with no configuration at all
[09:07] <dan_> i have in this second a very strange problem : mozilla does not start, (neither mozilla& at prompt , nor throgh the manu) BUT moving to an other destination in my local net, there i start through an ssh -X connection a mozille, and the my own button works ! any1 any idea what's goin' on ?!
[09:07] <xbox_sky> ipkungfu/guarddog I'll check it out, tx guys :)
[09:07] <soundray> Goshawk, wouldn't you say the difficulty of using command line interfaces is grossly exaggerated by most GUI users?
[09:07] <sean_> a dc++ client for amd64
[09:07] <sean_> pls
[09:08] <blueblood> hmm, anyone know why I only can get one sound source at the time? If I play XMMS I don't get sound i Q4, or vlc, or any other app, and vise versa
[09:08] <trappist> soundray: I wouldn't
[09:08] <Pjott^AWAY> See you all ;D And thank's for all your help :)
[09:08] <soundray> trappist, bad experience?
[09:08] <snowowl> blueblood what the deal
[09:08] <chrisx1> hey i have problem trying to run a bin file any ideas i get permission denied
[09:08] <sean_> i need a dc++ cleinet for ubuntu-amd64
[09:08] <Goshawk> soundray, no, i think that the phrase "be courageous" sounds good :D
[09:09] <soundray> chrisx1, what's a bin file?
[09:09] <blueblood> snowowl, how do you mean?
[09:09] <chrisx1> an installer..
[09:09] <medgno> chrisx1, you need to add the "execute" bit
[09:09] <fletch33> hello all
[09:09] <chrisx1> im trying to install amsn
[09:09] <soundray> Goshawk, is 'Be bold' more mainstream?
[09:09] <fletch33> my 4th day of being free from microsoft
[09:09] <chrisx1> execute bit??
[09:09] <fletch33> yeah
[09:09] <trappist> soundray: gui is inherently easier.  it's recollection vs. recognition.  it's easier to see a list of things to click and choose the right one than to recall off the top of your head exactly what needs to be typed.
[09:09] <medgno> right click, go to Properties, permissions, and check the checkboxes that say "execute"
[09:09] <Kromonos> nobody could help?
[09:10] <chrisx1> oo yer
[09:10] <chrisx1> sec
[09:10] <chrisx1> tryin now
[09:10] <dan_> i have in this second a very strange problem : mozilla does not start, (neither mozilla& at prompt , nor through the menu Applications -> Internet -> ..) BUT moving to an other destination in my local net, ssh -X etchost, there starting through a mozilla is possible (not my computer), and the my own button works for mozilla ! (But bad bookmarks...) any1 any idea what's goin' on ?!
[09:10] <soundray> trappist, I rarely know exactly what I need to type. There, bash comes in with tab completion.
[09:10] <bungle> 4thyr
[09:10] <snowowl> I asking if you can specify the problem :) I want to help
[09:11] <trappist> soundray: sure, that helps.  but the principle is the same.  how do you know you need to type ps to get a process list?  it's a lot easier to find it in a gui menu.
[09:11] <chrisx1> thanks medgno works
[09:11] <Tyrael> dan_: wow sounds like a linux quirk. At least it works kinda vrs with Winblows it just fails
[09:11] <chrisx1> also i have another problem Xmms Locks up when i try to play a song
[09:11] <snowowl> blueblood:  kde or gnome or other - OSS esd or other
[09:11] <blueblood> oh, hmm, gnome, think it's oss
[09:12] <theine> !skype
[09:12] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:12] <Kromonos> sudo iwconfig eth0 up says me SIOCSIFFLAGS: File not found :( whats the error?
[09:12] <chrisx1> any idea where i can get tsl from?
[09:13] <fletch33> can i ask a question to everyone even if you dont know the answer i want to make sure it isnt just me.  sometimes when i am typing my cursor just goes to some other place on the page and i cant figure it out. it really sucks because it will just jump up to another paragraph or something and it is driving me carzy. anyone else have this happen or know how to fix it?
[09:13] <medgno> fletch33, are you using a touchpad, by any chance?
[09:13] <fletch33> yes sir
[09:13] <fletch33> hp laptop
[09:13] <meheren> how do u change the permission under command line of some file
[09:14] <dan_> Tyrael : yes, i knew before, that starting mozilla & CO. on remore host uses most soft from the local host, but this situation is indeed strange...
[09:14] <NoUse> meheren chmod
[09:14] <chrisx1> meheren, chmod
[09:14] <Tyrael> kromonos: try ifconfig wlan0
[09:14] <meheren> nouse: ok thx
[09:14] <medgno> you're gently tapping it while typing, which causes the cursor to move. I know this since I always have that problem as well. If yours is like mine, there's a button to temporarily disable the touchpad
[09:14] <fletch33> medgno, is that happening to you
[09:14] <Tyrael> mehren: chmod (permission) (file)
[09:14] <Kromonos> Tyrael: Device not found
[09:14] <Kromonos> eth0 is the wlan device
[09:14] <Tyrael> kromonos: kk
[09:14] <meheren> nouse:chmod then file path then name right?
[09:14] <Tyrael> odd. that is odd
[09:14] <snowowl> blueblood: System -> Multimedia Selector
[09:15] <Tyrael> mehren: chmod (permission) (file)
[09:15] <fletch33> medgno, i wonder why it didnt happen on windows and if there is a fix
[09:15] <meheren> ok
[09:15] <soundray> trappist, you're right, but from then on, going through GUI menus is a pain.
[09:16] <medgno> fletch33, I doubt there's a fix, and I know I got that problem under windows
[09:16] <jron_> wtf is gnome checking my cdrom drive everytime i click a desktop icon/folder?
[09:16] <chrisx1> Anyone have any ideas where to download TSL from?
[09:16] <blueblood> snowowl, can't find it, I got a swedish Ubuntu, the closest I find is Sound.
[09:16] <blueblood> And there I can't change much
[09:16] <soundray> I've always appreciated GUIs that help you construct a command line.
[09:17] <fletch33> medgno,  i use the touchpad the whole time i am typing so constantly turning it off is out of the question even though i do have that little on and off button. however it never did that while in windows
[09:17] <meheren> i have a debain server with dhcp fiel sharing how can i get my ubuntu to reconise and connect to it?
[09:17] <cipres> ande hay foro en espaol de ubuntu?
[09:17] <Kromonos> meheren: try dhclient <device> ;)
[09:17] <chrisx1> Anyone have any ideas where to download TSL from?
[09:17] <Tyrael> Sie Spreche Englise bitte.
[09:18] <medgno> fletch33, well, I don't know what to say then. Maybe try being a bit more careful, and do a search in synaptic for synaptics, and maybe change some options?
[09:18] <soundray> chrisx1, don't repeat yourself. What is TSL?
[09:18] <chrisx1> For SSL
[09:18] <fletch33> medgno,  one more question have you been able to find an updated package to add all the touchpad features i loost when i switched from windows
[09:18] <Gdp_usrlam> jron_ are you usig the "live" CD?
[09:18] <Traedre> lo all
[09:18] <jron_> anyone know why gnome is checking my cdrom drive everytime i click a desktop icon/folder?
[09:18] <meheren> i can't seem to get dhcp file sharing program on this computer though
[09:18] <medgno> fletch33, what types of features? I can do scrolling on the pad, and do a two or three fingered click for middle and right clicking
[09:18] <fletch33> medgno, i have been looking for a synaptic with no luck yet
[09:18] <jron_> erm sorry
[09:19] <Tyrael> anyone know how to get rid of the Ubuntu Icon next to Applications on the top bar?
[09:19] <jron_> Gdp_usrlam, no, i'm not using the live cd
[09:19] <Tyrael> change to something else.
[09:20] <Tyrael> meheren: DHCP has nothing to do with File-Sharing...
[09:20] <jron_> i should state that it isn't EVERYTIME ;P but it seems like it is often =(
[09:20] <Tyrael> Just getting an IP address
[09:20] <fletch33> medgno, ooh i agree it does do all that but i think i had a sensitivity setting before and that would fix this but i am sure that is asking to much. i just switched to linux 4 days ago and i am very happy so far. i cant wait to actually start learning stuff
[09:20] <Gdp_usrlam> mmm, that is really aukward
[09:20] <medgno> fletch33, I'm looking around to see if I can find anything
[09:20] <meheren> ok soo im a noob close enough
[09:20] <sean_> what dc++ client do you recomand me????
[09:20] <fletch33> medgno, cool thanks
[09:21] <Tyrael> mehren: im not tring t o insult you
[09:21] <chrisx1> Any1 Have An Idea Why xmms hangs When Playing A File?
[09:21] <meheren> i no
[09:21] <meheren> like i said im a noob at linux
[09:21] <Tyrael> chris: happens to me if there is no codec for it
[09:22] <chrisx1> they are mp3s tho
[09:22] <meheren> learned it even ecisted about a month ago
[09:22] <Tyrael> meheren: kk
[09:22] <chrisx1> its same on any file
[09:22] <Tyrael> chris: use Amarok. its better anyway
[09:22] <medgno> fletch33, did you try using the program qsynaptics?
[09:22] <Obi-1> i havent tryed yet.. but.. is ubuntu able to play mp3 in a default installation?
[09:22] <Tyrael> meheren: stick with it man. Linux f*'ing rules
[09:23] <meheren> how can i install a xdmcp something or other on ubuntu
[09:23] <Goshawk> Obi-1, no
[09:23] <fletch33> medgno, no i didnt see that 1 but there are so many too lok at
[09:23] <fletch33> medgno, what is it under
[09:23] <Goshawk> Obi-1, just install gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:23] <Obi-1> could i dowload the package for it with synaptics
[09:23] <Goshawk> Obi-1, sure
[09:23] <medgno> fletch33, I don't know. I did a search for the term 'synaptics' and it came up with it as one of the packages
[09:23] <fletch33> medgno,  ok i will check that out thanksa lot
[09:23] <Obi-1> what package? gstreamer?
[09:24] <medgno> fletch33, hope that helps, and best of luck
[09:24] <sbalneav> meheren: What is it you're wanting to do?  Or what's not working.  Then we'd be better able to point you in the right direction.
[09:24] <fletch33> medgno,  i will let u kinow when i get a chance to look at it
[09:24] <Tyrael> meheren: you should be able to just enable. it... I just started using Ubuntu this weekend so I'll have to look into it
[09:24] <Goshawk> Obi-1, gstreamer0.8-mad if i'm not wrong
[09:24] <clb_> is there any way I can login to a ssh server and automatically have the password sent, like "ssh user@host.com --password myloginpassword" (don't tell me anything about it being stupid or something)
[09:24] <sean_> please a need a dc++ for ubuntu64
[09:24] <sean_> pls
[09:24] <bluefrog-10> blueblood, still around?
[09:25] <Obi-1> ok.. thanks
[09:25] <Tyrael> g2g to class
[09:25] <sbalneav> clb_: google for ssh-keygen.
[09:25] <Vaksy> hello. I'm trying to install fluxbox and other wm:s with apt-get, but it won't find those packages?
[09:25] <meheren> well i have a debian server with it and im tring to sign on to the server to directly transfer my files instad of burn them all to cd's then copy them onto the server
[09:25] <trappist> clb_: it's stupid because there's a much better way - keys.  you send your key (stored in .ssh/id_dsa.pub) which is authenticated against .ssh/authorized_keys on the server
[09:25] <sean_> pls
[09:25] <bluefrog-10> blueblood, xmms options > preferences > change osd to alsa
[09:25] <sean_> please a need a dc++ for ubuntu64
[09:25] <Obi-1> another question.. when i beggin session with gnome.. all ethernets are not activated
[09:25] <Gdp_usrlam> clb_ i dont think so... because your passwd has to be shadowed (so that nobody standing behind you can see it)
[09:26] <Goshawk> sean_, if for dc++ you mean a p2p client you can use gtk-gnutella or emule or amule ( these are the clients that i know)
[09:26] <Obi-1> i have to run the netwotking gui
[09:26] <sbalneav> meheren: So, what you want is something like NFS.  Does the ubuntu box already have an IP address (i.e. can it talk on the network?)
[09:26] <Goshawk> Obi-1, even if you leave it enabled during the last session?
[09:26] <Obi-1> yes
[09:26] <sean_> thx goshawk
[09:27] <meheren> not really
[09:27] <chrisx1> anybody know a good msn messenger client
[09:27] <clb_> how do the sshkeys work in practice? does the server need to implement some special stuff?
[09:27] <dducko> gaim
[09:27] <chrisx1> with display pics?
[09:27] <sbalneav> meheren: Do you have a network set up?
[09:27] <meheren> i have a windwos network but none of the 4 f*ing computer reconize each other
[09:27] <dducko> umm yeah
[09:27] <Blejdfizt> ubotu: tell Blejdfizt about w32codecs
[09:27] <Goshawk> Obi-1, i've the same problem, but mu network card leaves configured so my boot takes too long
[09:27] <chrisx1> it didnt have for me:S
[09:27] <jasongrieves> any idea why nessted X won't work from applicatoin menu?
[09:28] <meheren> sbalneav: i have a debain a macand a ubuntu on the network
[09:28] <meheren> and of course a fing windows
[09:28] <Goshawk> what about webcams on gaim? i know that in amsn they work..
[09:28] <clb_> should I use rsa or dsa?
[09:28] <trappist> dssa
[09:28] <sbalneav> So you want the ubuntu box to be able to see files on the Debian server?  Do you have admin rights on the Debian box?
[09:28] <trappist> *dsa
[09:29] <meheren> soo sbalneav: how can i set up a network without having to use th stupid windwos
[09:29] <clb_> what's this passphrase stuff?
[09:29] <clb_> can I leave it empty?
[09:29] <Gdp_usrlam> meheren ifconfig
[09:29] <meheren> ok thx
[09:29] <sbalneav> clb_: yes
[09:29] <Obi-1> Goshawk: what should i do? should i modify a script.. wich one?
[09:29] <gpl> Hallo
[09:29] <jnymo> whats that vm that competes with vmware?
[09:30] <trappist> clb_: you can optionally encrypt your key.  I recommend it, as it's fairly easy to set it up so you only have to enter it when you boot up, and you can ssh all over the place without entering passwords after that.
[09:30] <trappist> clb_: you can leave it empty, but that'd be kinda lame.
[09:30] <SirKillalot> hi, where can I find the gnome startup? (I want several programs to get started, when some user logs in gnome)
[09:30] <sbalneav> meheren: You'll want to set up the Debian box as an NFS server, probably.
[09:30] <meheren> nfs?
[09:30] <jnymo> that open source vm?
[09:30] <ceej> whats the best way to install java runtime for firefox?
[09:30] <soundray> gpl, hallo.
[09:30] <clb_> trappist: sbalneav: ok I got a fingerprint and two identity files
[09:30] <medgno> SirKillalot, System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup Programs
[09:31] <Gdp_usrlam> mm meheren, tell us how is your network
[09:31] <sbalneav> meheren: Network File Server.
[09:31] <meheren> bad
[09:31] <Gdp_usrlam> i mean
[09:31] <meheren> i created a network with the windwos network setup tool
[09:31] <trappist> clb_: put the contents of ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub (make sure it's the .pub) in your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the other end
[09:31] <fletch33> medgno,  that has an option for sensitivity. i dont know how well itworks yet but i turned it all the way down and i guess i will find out. thanks
[09:31] <Gdp_usrlam> which pcs do you have, if there is a router
[09:31] <meheren> windows...
[09:31] <Gdp_usrlam> etcetc
[09:31] <sbalneav> clb_: There's lots of pages on the Internets about that, google around.
[09:31] <meheren> al the 4 computers connet through a hub
[09:31] <meheren> there is a deb a ubuntu a windwos and a mac on it
[09:32] <bluefrog-10> meheren, install samba-ldap on debian server and u'll be fine or nfs, or both
[09:32] <fletch33> has anyone had any success getting there pocket pc to sync? i would have to guess not
[09:32] <meheren> ok
[09:32] <SirKillalot> medgno, thanks man
[09:32] <meheren> thx
[09:32] <jasongrieves> any idea why nessted X won't work from applicatoin menu?, I can create new X sessions on the screen, just not nested on top of each other
[09:32] <ceej> whats the best way to install java runtime for firefox?
[09:32] <soundray> !java
[09:32] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:32] <sbalneav> clb_: Here's one to get you started: http://kimmo.suominen.com/docs/ssh/
[09:32] <fletch33> ceej, it is in synaptic
[09:32] <ceej> nope
[09:32] <fletch33> just search for firefox
[09:32] <bluefrog-10> meheren, you will have to join the windows box to the domain if you sest samba-ldap
[09:33] <Gdp_usrlam> allright, so in your ubuntu and also in your debian, you shoud set a rout to your gateway (hub) with routeadd, also stablish an ip on the boxes with ifconfig
[09:33] <Goshawk> Obi-1, as i said i've the opposed problem
[09:33] <fletch33> ceej,  sorry do a search for mozilla
[09:33] <ceej> well firefox went to install plugin but could said had to do manual
[09:33] <Goshawk> Obi-1, by the way network is configured by /etc/network/interfaces
[09:33] <Goshawk> Obi-1, look there
[09:33] <meheren> how would i do that
[09:34] <dartmoordog> anyone know about install on an old Mac powerbookG3? keep gettin panics. got started once then froze TC
[09:34] <meheren> or shouldn't i bother with windwos
[09:34] <meheren> lol
[09:34] <fletch33> ceej,  sorry i dont know then. that is how i did it. ooh wait i got mine from automatix
[09:34] <Kromonos> dartmoordog: sry, but I only had installed ubuntu on a powerbook G4 :)
[09:34] <Gdp_usrlam> :D you shoudnt touch anything in your windows, you have to configure samba in deb and ubuntu boxes
[09:34] <bluefrog-10> meheren, can you ping all your 4 machines one from eachother?
[09:34] <fletch33> ceej, i know it is in automatix
[09:34] <ceej> whats that?
[09:34] <meheren> ?
[09:35] <meheren> bluefrog-10: ping?
[09:35] <fletch33> ceej,  ooh u are going to love this 1 sec i will get you the link
[09:35] <ceej> k
[09:35] <Goshawk> is normal that my network card leaves configured when i shutdown the pc? (thus when it reboots my boot takes too much time to configure the network card that can be disconnected)
[09:35] <bluefrog-10> meheren, no offense but am not sure you should play with a server and 4 machines for now...
[09:35] <meheren> yeh
[09:36] <meheren> lol
[09:36] <fletch33> ceej,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[09:36] <iratsu> how can i set a static ip for my computer on my network?
[09:37] <Kromonos> iratsu: ifconfig
[09:37] <mikelds> Hey! someone knows any way to contact jdub? I know he is right now in his 3BT
[09:37] <Gdp_usrlam> iratsu ifconfig device ip
[09:37] <iratsu> Kromonos: will that set it permanently though?
[09:37] <soundray> I have a USB WLAN adapter with a rt2500 chipset. Breezy is supposed to support it "out of the box", but no driver is loaded. What can I do?
[09:37] <Goshawk> iratsu, nano /etc/network/interfaces
[09:38] <Goshawk> iratsu, then use man (on another shell) to know how and where set you card
[09:38] <Goshawk> iratsu, it will be permanently
[09:38] <Bicchi> i see a program that i like but right now its on "universe candidate" wish list. How long does it usually take before it goes into the repositories and be available to everyone.
[09:39] <iratsu> Goshawk: tahnks
[09:39] <ceej> fletch33:wheres the best place to download it?
[09:39] <Goshawk> is normal that my network card leaves configured when i shutdown the pc? (thus when it reboots my boot takes too much time to configure the network card that can be disconnected).. any idea?
[09:39] <fletch33> ceej, look at the bottom right of that first big post
[09:39] <SirKillalot> which video player do you use for firefox as vid player plugin?
[09:40] <Gdp_usrlam> Goshawk are you using DHCP or static?
[09:40] <avaurus> gxine
[09:40] <chrisx1> how do i install java for limewire?
[09:40] <SirKillalot> avalost, is there nothing better
[09:40] <SirKillalot> ?
[09:40] <Goshawk> dhcp configured with the gnome gui
[09:40] <SirKillalot> like vlc or something
[09:40] <SirKillalot> mplayer?
[09:40] <SirKillalot> I hate gxine, dunno why
[09:40] <avaurus> whatever
[09:40] <avaurus> use what you want :)
[09:40] <meatwad65> does anyone know how to properly setup tv-out with an nvidia card?
[09:40] <Gdp_usrlam> Goshawk perhaps thats the problem, why dont you tri static IP
[09:41] <Gdp_usrlam> try (sorry)
[09:41] <bluefrog-10> soundray, ndiswrapper
[09:41] <jasongrieves> any idea why nessted X won't work from applicatoin menu?, I can create new X sessions on the screen, just not nested on top of each other
[09:41] <meatwad65> basically it works in clone mode but if i have the s-video connection it makes my desktop 800x600 and i want the desktop to be 1280x800 and the tv 800x600
[09:41] <soundray> bluefrog-10, with ndiswrapper I get frequent hangs. I was hoping to be able to try the native driver.
[09:42] <bitpuler> Hi, ist da jemand?
[09:42] <redguy> !de
[09:42] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[09:42] <Goshawk> Gdp_usrlam, i used the gnome gui (that edits the /etc/network/interfaces) than when the system reboots it reads the file and try to set the card up... but it can be disconnected, i prefer to configure the network every time that i switch on my pc...
[09:45] <clb_> trappist: that didn't really remove the problem... I still need to enter a password
[09:45] <clb_> if I leave the password null, can I then connect without typing one?
[09:45] <Gdp_usrlam> AAAH! sorry i misunderstood you,
[09:45] <Lardarse> what's the recommended version of Java to install ?
[09:46] <Goshawk> Gdp_usrlam, are you talking with me?... i think yes
[09:46] <Gdp_usrlam> Goshawk you should i think you should erease the line in /etc/modules.conf that refears to your NIC
[09:46] <bluefrog-10> clb_, ssh conf should allow you to log wihtout passwd if not mistaken
[09:47] <Goshawk> Gdp_usrlam, but doing what you say i may load the module every time...
[09:47] <Goshawk> Gdp_usrlam, every time that i wanna configure the netwrok
[09:47] <Goshawk> s/netwrok/network
[09:48] <bluefrog-10> clb_, you can allow empty passwd in sshconf
[09:48] <Gdp_usrlam> Goshawk, mmm... there should be another way, let me check
[09:48] <Gdp_usrlam> Goshawk, (you are right)
[09:48] <chrisx1> how do i find out what device is using my sound??
[09:49] <yi> what device is using your sound?
[09:49] <yi> you mean what program?
[09:49] <medgno> chrisx1, lsof | grep dsp
[09:50] <Lardarse> what's the recommended version of Java to install ?
[09:50] <Goshawk> Gdp_usrlam, thanks...
[09:50] <dan_> was a nice time today here ! c u soon ! bye all!
[09:51] <Goshawk> Lardarse, the lastest one :D
[09:51] <soundray> When I insert my WLAN USB stick, it gets recognized, but nothing else. What do I need to do to make it load the driver?
[09:51] <Goshawk> soundray, is it shown in ifconfig?
[09:51] <clb_> bluefrog-10: yeah I did that.. is it secure as long as my private key doesn't get exposed?
[09:52] <soundray> Goshawk, no.
[09:52] <trappist> clb_: yes
[09:52] <Goshawk> soundray, even with ifconfig -a ?
[09:52] <bluefrog-10> clb_, if you allow empty pls don't talk about security
[09:52] <trappist> clb_: but bluefrog-10's right.  don't depend on not exposing your private key.
[09:52] <soundray> Goshawk, yes. Even then, no wlan0 interface pops up, which is what I'm hoping...
[09:52] <clb_> bluefrog-10: are you saying private key isn't secure?
[09:53] <pjott> Hi all... again ;P =)
[09:53] <jasongrieves> any idea why nessted X won't work from applicatoin menu?, I can create new X sessions on the screen, just not nested on top of each other
[09:53] <Goshawk> soundray, so you need the driver, your wlan is not recognised
[09:53] <pjott> Where can I download games for Linux, such as Half Life 2, Quake etc. ? ;)
[09:53] <trappist> clb_: security is almost always a tradeoff, but in this case it's a no-brainer.  for almost no inconvenience, you can be plenty secure with an ssh key exchange.
[09:53] <Goshawk> soundray, open google and search for the drivers
[09:54] <soundray> Goshawk, driver is rt2500. I can load it manually, but still no interface.
[09:54] <Goshawk> soundray, maybe you will see that it's usable with ndiswrapper
[09:54] <Goshawk> soundray, does it use ndiswrapper?
[09:54] <trappist> clb_: encrypt your key with a good passphrase, and set up keychain so you only have to enter your passphrase once, say when X starts
[09:54] <soundray> Goshawk, I know that it is, but barely.
[09:54] <pjott> Where can I download games for Linux, such as Half Life 2, Quake etc. ? ;)
[09:54] <soundray> Goshawk, with ndiswrapper, it hangs at regular intervals.
[09:54] <bluefrog-10> clb_, am not good enough to answer you, but when someone is talking to me about empty passwords and then security, it makes me wonder. the thing is i don't know how the ssh key exchange works, and i will have to work on that.
[09:55] <djib> hello
[09:55] <trappist> pjott: there is no half life 2 for linux, but it will run in cedega
[09:55] <avaurus> bluefrog-10, will not work with empfy pass :)
[09:55] <Goshawk> soundray, i've expirience only with ndiswrapper, my broadcom works good
[09:55] <djib> I have a quesion of vocabulary
[09:55] <clb_> trappist: I work on windows also.. so I don't think I can automatically set up any key chains
[09:55] <djib> what does polled mode means
[09:55] <Goshawk> soundray, try a way to install that driver
[09:55] <bluefrog-10> avaurus, what will not work?
[09:55] <Gdp_usrlam> Goshawk, i cant find where it is.. but there should be an entry in one of those RC.x, where it tells the system to load the dhcp client daemon, if you cand find it and erease it, you?ll be able to do what yo want to do
[09:55] <avaurus> bluefrog-10, without password, no login via ssh
[09:55] <soundray> Goshawk, sudo modprobe rt2500 ?
[09:56] <trappist> avaurus: incorrect
[09:56] <djib> can anyone try and explain to me please ?
[09:56] <pjott> trappist, well, is there any other games (3D) for linux? I know Quake 4 is
[09:56] <bluefrog-10> avaurus, what about the permit logins with empty passwords in ssh conf?
[09:56] <pjott> but where can I find it?
[09:56] <Goshawk> soundray, remember that if i'm not wrong most wlan works with ndiswrapper and the drivers are just bin files to install on ndiswrapper, i think that you have a ndiswrapper bin...
[09:56] <avaurus> bluefrog-10, I forgot
[09:56] <trappist> pjott: yeah, quake4, doom3... you can find them at your local computer game store
[09:56] <Goshawk> Gdp_usrlam, yep
[09:56] <clb_> djib: polled mode is that something periodically checks for some other device's state
[09:56] <Goshawk> Gdp_usrlam, i can delete the rc script
[09:56] <trappist> bluefrog-10: empty passwords aren't the same as empty key passphrases
[09:57] <djib> clb_, ok so it avoids using interrupts right ?
[09:57] <Goshawk> Gdp_usrlam, yep, using upgrade-rc i think... thanks
[09:57] <bluefrog-10> trappist, i got that, i just have to work on how it works
[09:57] <soundray> Goshawk, I'm really keen to have a native driver. There is a rt2500.ko , so ndiswrapper should not be necessary.
[09:57] <clb_> djib: yes I would think so
[09:57] <Goshawk> ok time to go
[09:57] <Gdp_usrlam> Goshawk, great!!
[09:57] <clb_> djib: if there's a reason for you to be avoiding using an interrupt
[09:57] <Goshawk> soundray, yep you right so modprobe rt2500
[09:57] <Gdp_usrlam> Goshawk, hope it works ;)
[09:57] <clb_> djib: but it's also slower
[09:57] <pjott> trappist, Thanks! ;D
[09:58] <Goshawk> soundray, then lsmod | grep rt2500
[09:58] <pjott> trappist, I have a friend with a FTP with shit loads of games
[09:58] <djib> clb_, yeah I understand that
[09:58] <trappist> bluefrog-10: if your key passphrase is empty, your private key is effectively unencrypted.  your passphrase is to decrypt your private key.
[09:58] <pjott> for Linux
[09:58] <soundray> Goshawk, only that when I load rt2500 with modprobe, I still don't get an interface.
[09:58] <djib> I makes sense, clb_
[09:58] <Goshawk> Gdp_usrlam, yep it will :D
[09:58] <soundray> Goshawk, yep, loaded.
[09:58] <djib> Thanks !!!
[09:58] <Gdp_usrlam> Goshawk, excellent! :D:D
[09:58] <trappist> pjott: if you're gonna be illegally downloading games, don't tell me about it.
[09:58] <clb_> trappist: bluefrog-10: avaurus: I would think that a empty key passphrase is harder to brute force than a normal 4-8 char password?
[09:58] <bluefrog-10> trappist, it'snot on this i have to work it's on the export key stuff on different computers
[09:58] <SirKillalot> does WoW run with normal wine? or do I need cedega?
 Lardarse, the lastest one :D
[09:59] <avaurus> clb_, hehe,
[09:59] <djib> cedega I would say
[09:59] <djib> I'm not sure
[09:59] <Lardarse> latest from where?
[09:59] <Goshawk> soundray, so search an how-to to set that kind of driver, usually you should get the interface yet...
[09:59] <pjott> trappist, sorry, then. lol
[09:59] <trappist> clb_: there's nothing easier than cracking an empty password/passphrase.  just enter a passphrase, encrypt your private key, and set up keychain.
[09:59] <Under^Uni> Hi...can any1 recommend a webcam with linux driver which works good ?
[09:59] <Goshawk> Lardarse, version of java
[09:59] <jron_> does ubuntu have a recursive sfv  checking program ? not turning anything up....
[09:59] <Goshawk> Lardarse, you asked a question
[10:00] <Lardarse> you didn't answer it...
[10:00] <Lardarse> AFAIK there's more than 1 version of Java available
[10:00] <trappist> bluefrog-10: you just put your public key (~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub) in the remote box's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[10:00] <clb_> trappist: can I set it up so that I only need to enter gdm login password and my key chain is in use?
[10:00] <bluefrog-10> trappist, ty make a copy of that
[10:01] <Goshawk> Lardarse, the lastest one so... the one with x.y where x and y are the biggest
[10:01] <trappist> clb_: that would defeat the purpose.  you can, however, set it up so you enter your password in gdm, then enter your ssh passphrase, and not have to enter it again until you reboot.
[10:01] <Goshawk> ok folks... time to go
[10:01] <Goshawk> see you tomorrow
[10:01] <clb_> trappist: so I can't avoid entering two passwords?
[10:01] <bluefrog-10> clb_, if you were telling us what you want to do...
[10:01] <Lardarse> hmm...
[10:01] <clb_> bluefrog-10: I can't avoid entering two passwords?
[10:02] <bluefrog-10> clb_, to do what? for what purpose?
[10:02] <trappist> clb_: no.  if that's too steep a price for you to pay, you might as well give up on being secure.
[10:02] <jron_> can anyone point me to a tutorial for building ebuild packages for ubuntu? tired or the DB not having a trillion good apps... ill do it myself with the right docs...
[10:02] <clb_> trappist: wtf am I having gdm login password then... beats me
[10:02] <clb_> bluefrog-10: I'd like to join all my passwords into one so I don't have to type them all over again
[10:03] <tristanmike> I just got my 5.10 cd's in the mail. Yay!
[10:03] <bluefrog-10> clb_, get windows
[10:03] <trappist> clb_: your gdm password authenticates you to the system you're on.  the ssh passphrase decrypts your private key so you can securely and quickly login to other machines without having to enter any kind of password.
[10:03] <tristanmike> but I'm having trouble, boo :(
[10:03] <clb_> bluefrog-10: how is it better in windows?
[10:03] <bluefrog-10> clb_, and even on windows u will have passwords all over the place
[10:04] <bluefrog-10> clb_, it's no better not worse
[10:04] <blitzace1234> hi i'm looking for the name of a program i've used before.. It compiles stuff into deb packages, i can't remeber its name tho.. can anyone help?
[10:04] <trappist> clb_: I login to kdm, then enter my ssh passphrase, and those are the only two passphrases I enter in a day, unless I pgp-sign an email.
[10:04] <blitzace1234> *remember
[10:05] <bluefrog-10> clb_, if you're in company u need passwords, if you're at home well indeed u can get rid of them if you like
[10:05] <avaurus> no :)
[10:05] <tristanmike> I'm getting an error under the "Loading additional components" on the live cd. It's freezing at "casper-udeb" and I'm getting a cdrom error.  Any ideas?
[10:05] <trappist> bluefrog-10: that's horrible advice.
[10:05] <avaurus> *agreement
[10:05] <honda> hi all
[10:05] <clb_> trappist: bluefrog-10: so is the conclusion that empty-passphrase sda-authenticated ssh logins are a piece of cake to crack?
[10:06] <bluefrog-10> clb_, when you leave your house, u close your door using locks, no?
[10:06] <clb_> bluefrog-10: most of the time :)
[10:06] <trappist> clb_: there's nothing to cracking an empty passphrase.  if no on ever gets to see your private key, your ssh sessions will still be secure, but it's ridiculous to count on that.
[10:07] <clb_> trappist: how so... I keep the usb stick with me, if I lose it I'll remove the auth key from the other end
[10:07] <snooo> can u reconfigure source packages?
[10:07] <snooo> and if so how?
[10:07] <clb_> so I would like to think that the "usb stick" is my key
[10:07] <clb_> and not something I type all over again
[10:08] <trappist> clb_: check out pam_usb - you can even login to your system with just your usb key (no password) and lock the system when you take it out, and it unlocks when you reinsert, etc.
[10:08] <snooo> hello?
[10:08] <clb_> trappist: that sounds c00l
[10:08] <diubidone> hey all, can any one help me installing atmel drivers?
[10:09] <diubidone> hey how do I install atmel drivers?
[10:10] <fletch33> can someone tell me if it is ok to move all those .%$#@ folders that get put in my home folder into 1 folder or get rid of them or something
[10:10] <fletch33> the one's created when i ad packages
[10:10] <avaurus> how kinde, diubidone
[10:10] <avaurus> -e
[10:10] <medgno> fletch33, those are what store your preference and settings in all the programs you use
[10:10] <trappist> fletch33: things will break if you do that
[10:10] <blitzace1234> yep
[10:11] <darkheart> Hmm.../etc/init.d/apache2 stop doesn't stop apache2?
[10:11] <blitzace1234> they should be hidden, just leave them alone
[10:11] <trappist> fletch33: they start with a . because in linux that's hidden - configure your file manager to not show hidden files.
[10:11] <diubidone> anyone here knows bout atmel drivers please?
[10:12] <fletch33> trappist, thanks i may have deleted a couple i hope i didnt break anyhitng
[10:12] <avaurus> diubidone, repeat the question as often as you can, perhaps someone helps you
[10:12] <Gdp_usrlam> :D
[10:12] <trappist> I was personally waiting to hear it 7 times
[10:12] <avaurus> :)
[10:12] <blitzace1234> if hidden files are beig shown, go into configuration editor and make em not shown.. to put it plainly
[10:12] <trappist> then I was gonna offer up my secret atmel knowledge
[10:12] <blitzace1234> *being
[10:12] <fletch33> trappist, lol
[10:12] <avaurus> :P
[10:13] <trappist> bonus points if all 7 are on my screen at the same time
[10:13] <blitzace1234> that was a little harsh, but he was annoying
[10:14] <bluefrog-10> any /etc/skel guru around by chance?
[10:14] <fletch33> blitzace1234,  thanks i changed them because i did that in windows but i will change them back because i have no idea what i am doing on ubu
[10:14] <NikoKesten> Hey guys
[10:15] <funkyHat> i just installed kde-theme-plastik, and i want to select it as my kde theme, but i don't want to install kcontrol or anything else... how can i do it by editing files instead?
[10:15] <blitzace1234> ... wait a sec, isn't there a kubuntu channel?
[10:15] <Tyrael> yes
[10:15] <Tyrael> i believe so
[10:15] <blitzace1234> go there mate
[10:15] <paulo_> how do I configure grub?
[10:15] <funkyHat> i guess there is, i'm not using kubuntu though ;)
[10:16] <paulo_> i want it to be instaled into /dev/hdb
[10:16] <NoUse> !tell paulo_ about grub
[10:16] <medgno> funkyHat, the file ~/.qt/qtrc, there should be a line saying "style=something" make it be "style=plastik"
[10:16] <funkyHat> thanks :)
[10:16] <kbrooks> #kubuntu, funkyHat :) :P
[10:16] <fletch33> it was harsh but i got a laugh out of it :)
[10:16] <pjott> Calling socketbind... Calling Socketbind... Earth Call, Earth Cal... Let's make it simple ;) Have anyone seen Socketbind latley?
[10:16] <clb_> how do I properly even remove my usb stick from linux system?
[10:17] <clb_> umount: /media/KINGSTON is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[10:17] <blitzace1234> right click the icon and press eject
[10:17] <kbrooks> clb_: unmount it
[10:17] <medgno> clb_, or from the command line, pumount /media/KINGSTON
[10:17] <Boobek> bye all
[10:17] <clb_> blitzace1234: which icon.. I get no icon
[10:17] <Tyrael> idle... g'day all
[10:18] <blitzace1234> ohic
[10:18] <NoUse> clb_ what shows up in "Computer" in gnome?
[10:18] <clb_> NoUse: I don't see the usb drive on the left side, but on the right side is an item 'Kingston DataTraveler'
[10:19] <jgw> anyone have a url for the "couldn't stat" sources.lsit problem in breezy? i get it with every breezy install after i enable universe, etc
[10:19] <NoUse> clb_ right click that and click unmount
[10:19] <clb_> NoUse: when I click on it, I get an error.. can't mount, alreaydy mounted
[10:19] <nadia> trying to install ubuntu on a new box, getting kernel panic error.  Tried this with other distros too?
[10:19] <clb_> NoUse: there's no such option when I rightclick
[10:19] <fletch33>  clb i just pull mine out. he he he he i said pull mine out
[10:19] <NoUse> jgw you have to run apt-get update first
[10:19] <jgw> nouse: i do
[10:19] <NoUse> clb_ then it's not mounted
[10:19] <clb_> NoUse: yes it is
[10:20] <jgw> apt-get update is where i get the errors
[10:20] <clb_> I can browse it in shell
[10:20] <NoUse> clb_ just yank it out
[10:20] <pjott> Is it hard to write a simple Operating SYstem?
[10:20] <jgw> pjott: yes
[10:20] <clb_> NoUse: but how can I browse it in graphical mode
[10:20] <jgw> especially if you have to ask.
[10:20] <blitzace1234> hehe
[10:20] <clb_> I don't get the link in places-menu
[10:20] <NoUse> clb_ for me, I plug in the USB drive and an icon appears on my dekstop
[10:20] <oofnik> hey does anyone know about a memory leak involving gdesklets and/or python? i'm having a big problem with this
[10:20] <clb_> NoUse: for me not
[10:21] <tarzeauBSD> someone in here makes ubuntu live cds?
[10:21] <blitzace1234> i got pissed off with gdesklets, kept crashing so i got rid of it
[10:21] <NoUse> clb_ you running breezy?
[10:21] <clb_> almost out-of-the box Breezy Badger install
[10:21] <NoUse> clb_ report a bug
[10:21] <nadia> anyone get a kernel panic error when installing ubuntu?
[10:21] <jgw> anyone have a url for the "couldn't stat" sources.list problem when apt-get update'ing in breezy? i get it with every breezy install after i enable universe, etc
[10:21] <oofnik> gdesklets doesn't crash for me but it just chews up memory like crazy
[10:21] <clb_> NoUse: hmm I guess I should
[10:21] <NoUse> jgw pastebin the output
[10:21] <NoUse> !tell jgw about pastebin
[10:21] <jgw> k
[10:22] <oofnik> anyone else use gdesklets?
[10:22] <clb_> NoUse: should I have the usb stick in fstab?
[10:22] <NoUse> clb_ I'm not sure how gnome deals with it
[10:22] <blitzace1234> I've never had a kernel panic unles i've compiled my own kernel, it's odd that a vanilla kernel would not work on a system
[10:23] <medgno> clb_, no, you shouldn't need to
[10:23] <clparker> I wish gdesklets worked as well as superkaramba
[10:23] <oofnik> ok.. well does anyone have any ideas why i can't compile anything relatively large like wine without my system halting
[10:23] <oofnik> is that a gcc bug or a hardware problem?
[10:23] <jgw> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4540
[10:23] <thrush> oofnik: maybe a memory problem?
[10:23] <NoUse> oofnik sounds like you don't have sufficient CPU cooling or bad memory
[10:24] <oofnik> thrush ive done 48hr memtests
[10:24] <oofnik> so i don't think it is that
[10:24] <nadia> blitzace1234, I've tried installing other distros as well and getting similar error.  I'm assuming it's a hardware issue, but don't know what would cause a kernel panic.
[10:24] <oofnik> the cpu never goes over 50 C
[10:24] <thrush> oofnik: out of ideas
[10:24] <jgw> anyone have a url for the "couldn't stat" sources.list problem when apt-get update'ing in breezy? i get it with every breezy install after i enable universe, etc && http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4540
[10:24] <blitzace1234> what is your harware
[10:24] <oofnik> hah thanks anyway.. it doesnt only happen when compiling
[10:24] <blitzace1234> *hardware
[10:24] <oofnik> happens completely randomly
[10:25] <oofnik> but almost always during compile
[10:25] <medgno> jgw, try changing the us.archive.ubuntu.com  to archive.ubuntu.com
[10:25] <oofnik> i have a P4 2.6 HT (with 686smp kernel)
[10:25] <thrush> oofnik: hows your psu?
[10:25] <NoUse> oofnik have you run a memtest?
[10:25] <jgw> megno: is that an official fix? i've tried lots of "fixes", which just made things worse
[10:26] <jgw> i'd rather not reinstall again
[10:26] <NoUse> oofnik nevermind, read above
[10:26] <medgno> this won't break anything, since you can just put the 'us' back in
[10:26] <holycow> hey all
[10:26] <jgw> ok
[10:26] <jgw> so s// it and then sudo apt-get update?
[10:26] <oofnik> NoUse yes memtest has worked for 48 hours.. PSU is a thermaltake, 430W i believe which should be sufficient
[10:26] <suix> hi
[10:26] <medgno> and several times in the past, there have been problems like this where us.archive.ubuntu.com got weird and the fix was to get rid of the 'us'
[10:26] <holycow> can anyone tell me why oo.org2 uses ugly icons in breezy, and not the official ones ?
[10:26] <medgno> sure
[10:26] <cryptom> is there anyone from switzerland? how do I have to set LC_* in /etc/environment to get everything in english, except the characterlayout in swiss german and the possibility to write 
[10:27] <iratsu> is rhythmbox superior to xmms?
[10:27] <blitzace1234> it has a library function
[10:27] <blitzace1234> but i prefer amarok to everything personally
[10:27] <oofnik> holycow same problem in hoary..
[10:27] <jgw> med: i shouldnt manually have to clean out any /var/*/apt dirs right?
[10:27] <holycow> i personally like banshee
[10:27] <fletch33> medgno,  can u tell me how to keep from getting locks on folders i have brought into ubu like my music folder from windows. i have to go to properties and change the permission to write and then when i open the folder all the 200 items in there need the same thing. there has to be an easier way
[10:27] <holycow> oofnik, i thought in hoary they had the nice ones?
[10:28] <medgno> jgw, correct. the apt-get update should take care of everything
[10:28] <oofnik> oh wait, now that i check they are nice :D haha nevermind
[10:28] <blitzace1234> sudo chmod 777
[10:28] <jgw> medgno: now i get these errors: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4541
[10:28] <blitzace1234> and for recursive
[10:28] <oofnik> holycow when it starts up for you do you get a 1.1 crossed out and 2.0 written in what looks like mspaint?
[10:28] <blitzace1234> sudo chmod -R 777
[10:28] <medgno> blitzace1234, uhm, you do know 777 is a bad idea. right?
[10:28] <blitzace1234> that'll get rid of locks
[10:29] <jgw> medgno: "not in gzip format" errors
[10:29] <oofnik> chmod 777 can create a security hole but if youre the only user it shouldnt matter
[10:29] <NoUse> jgw are you coming through a firewall that blocks certain pages?
[10:29] <jgw> nouse: nope
[10:29] <holycow> oofnik, no
[10:29] <oofnik> oh.. hm
[10:29] <meatwad65> anyone here have tv-out working with an nvidia card?
[10:29] <evan_d> Is there any way to add https support for apt in Ubuntu?  I've found a few debs for debian from last year, but I'm afraid they'll horribly break my system.
[10:29] <blitzace1234> ic what's a better number then for read/write?
[10:30] <suix> do you know how I can make that hotplug skips loading my bluetooth?
[10:30] <oofnik> evan_d any specific reason why you want to or just because?
[10:30] <fletch33> blitzace1234, were u talking to me about the write otion
[10:30] <NoUse> jgw download this url using wget and then run it against file http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[10:30] <evan_d> oofnik: LUG ubuntu mirror on a school network.  The CIO of the school doens't want external users on it.
[10:30] <jgw> nouse: k
[10:30] <evan_d> oofnik: requires http authentication
[10:30] <nalioth> evan_d: please please please dont use debian binaries
[10:30] <mirak_> Hi*
[10:30] <evan_d> nalioth: that's what I figured
[10:30] <blitzace1234> i was asking everyone
[10:30] <suix> hey?
[10:30] <oofnik> evan_d that's lame.. sorry i don't know how to do it
[10:30] <Chris_Tucker> anyone know how to fix the wine systray prob in ubuntu?
[10:31] <mirak_> there is really no way to make linux guess the monitor frequencies for X ?
[10:31] <evan_d> oofnik: tell me about it
[10:31] <suix> do you know how I can make that hotplug skips loading my bluetooth?
[10:31] <fletch33> ooh
[10:31] <nalioth> evan_d: using debian binaries on breezy is a sure way to wreck it
[10:31] <cafuego> evan_d: Nah, just allow/deny directives with a subnet.
[10:31] <mirak_> that's a problem for newbies
[10:31] <nalioth> evan_d: better to build from debian source repos
[10:31] <evan_d> we have off campus users though
[10:31] <Chris_Tucker> anyone know how to fix the wine systray prob in ubuntu?
[10:31] <oofnik> yeah debian source is usually (!!!!) safe
[10:31] <cafuego> mirak_: it normally does that by default.
[10:32] <oofnik> so those of you out there with breezy, what do you think so far, are you happy with it?
[10:32] <jgw> NoUse: jgw@bukowski:~$ file Packages.gz
[10:32] <jgw> Packages.gz: gzip compressed data, from Unix, max compression
[10:32] <Chris_Tucker> oofnik, yes, its great
[10:32] <oofnik> i'm considering either upgrading from hoary, wipe&install or go with gentoo
[10:32] <evan_d> oofnik: love it, but the upgrade left me with crazy screensaver problems
[10:32] <medgno> oofnik, it fixed the few problems I had with my laptop and hoary
[10:32] <blitzace1234> ii'm looking for a better way to build tar.gz stuff, i used a program that made debs from tar.gz once but i can't remember it's name, does anyone know?
[10:32] <Noaires> Hey all, anybody know of a fix for this? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89854
[10:32] <jgw> NoUse: manually gunzipping it presents a Packages file of type text with extend lines
[10:33] <thrush> oofnik: not much difference for me I dont use gnome and didnt have any issues with hoary..
[10:33] <oofnik> can anyone compare breezy and gentoo?
[10:33] <cafuego> grr
[10:33] <NikoKesten> I cant insall lzo-1.08 PLZ HELP
[10:33] <Chris_Tucker> oofnik, ive only tried gentoo once, never got far with it, i say try breezy first
[10:33] <medgno> blitzace1234, are you talking about alien?
[10:33] <oofnik> thrush do you use KDE or something else
[10:33] <Chris_Tucker> anyone know how to fix the wine systray prob in ubuntu?
[10:33] <blitzace1234> nono
[10:33] <blitzace1234> building from source
[10:33] <thrush> just blackbox mostly. pretty barebones
[10:33] <medgno> oh, nevermind then
[10:33] <oofnik> Chris_Tucker what's the problem? i don't think i've heard about that..
[10:33] <blitzace1234> thanks tho
[10:34] <nadanuage> can everyone help me? I Search the French Chan of Ubuntu
[10:34] <nadia> blitzace1234, found out what the prob is... RAM issue, for some reason my ram won't work...
[10:34] <cafuego> !fr
[10:34] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[10:34] <blitzace1234> ic thats a shame
[10:34] <blitzace1234> does windows work then?
[10:34] <nadanuage> thanks
[10:34] <cafuego> pas de problme
[10:34] <Chris_Tucker> oofnik, systray icons appear in desktop windows, are are so small they are only a 2px tall by about 20px wide strip with a border and title... no icon inside it
[10:35] <Under^Uni> Hi...can any1 recommend a webcam with linux driver which works good ?
[10:35] <Chris_Tucker> oofnik, this problem with wine is not limited to ubuntu or breezy, its common with gnome
[10:35] <oofnik> hmm, funky, i've never seen it before
[10:35] <Dez[debian] > haq
[10:35] <blitzace1234> i'm kinda new to IRC, can anyone tell me how to address a person specifically
[10:35] <Dez[debian] > Anyone know if there is Dual Screen Support ?
[10:35] <oofnik> Chris_Tucker did you search ubuntuforums?
[10:35] <Noaires> anybody try building wine from cvs, and get to the end where it asks for root password?  it doesn't accept the sudo password and fails... whats up here?
[10:36] <thrush> Under^Uni: I believe wiki.ubuntu.com has a list of working webcams and how easy they were to install
[10:36] <funkyHat> blitzace1234, depending on your client, type the start of their name and then press tab
[10:36] <Chris_Tucker> oofnik, wow im stupid.. only been checking google/linux
[10:36] <NikoKesten> I keep getting no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[10:36] <NikoKesten> whenever i try to ./configure stuff, please help.
[10:36] <blitzace1234> funkyHat, cheers
[10:36] <udfhdus> Hi i am VERY new to ubuntu. Is there any good tutorial for beginners?
[10:36] <jgw> NoUse: hrm, 'mv /var/lib/apt/lists /var/lib/apt/lists_old && mkdir -p lists/partial && sudo apt-get update' fixed the problem
[10:36] <jgw> i can now apt-get update without errors
[10:36] <cafuego> NikoKesten: Whatcha compiling?
[10:36] <NikoKesten> Open VPN
[10:36] <oofnik> haha yeah check out ubuntuforums, it should be on there somewhere..
[10:36] <NikoKesten> and lzo
[10:36] <cafuego> NikoKesten: That's precompiled.
[10:36] <Donfuria> is there a way to set up a network between Ubuntu and Windoze on the same pc? Since I need to put some windoze screenshots to ubuntu
[10:36] <blitzace1234> i know the hoary guide
[10:36] <cafuego> !info openvpn
[10:37] <ubotu> openvpn: (Virtual Private Network daemon), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.0.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 306 kB, Installed size: 932 kB
[10:37] <cafuego> No compiling needed.
[10:37] <blitzace1234> i dont have the addy for the breey starter guide tho
[10:37] <NikoKesten> it says to in the guide...
[10:37] <blitzace1234> *breezy
[10:37] <cafuego> NikoKesten: Just make sure the 'universe' repository is enabled on your machine.
[10:37] <NikoKesten> ok
[10:37] <NikoKesten> and I aldready did that
[10:37] <selinium> Noaires, Have a look at the comments at the bottom, it explains a work around
[10:37] <cafuego> NikoKesten: Never ever use the guide, it contains outdated and wrong information.
[10:37] <NikoKesten> ok
[10:37] <blitzace1234> nadia, does windows work on your system?
[10:37] <udfhdus> One question: Do you think ubuntu is secure? WIth "Secure" i mean as secure as other os?
[10:37] <cafuego> !info lzo
[10:38] <chrisx1> hey im trying to listen to music from amarok and i hear no sound and it doesnt seem to start playing any ideas?
[10:38] <psusi> udfhdus: define 'secure'
[10:38] <jgw> udf: reasonably secure, yes
[10:38] <trappist> udfhdus: as secure as you make it.
[10:38] <ICE9> anyone know how to start xinetd
[10:38] <oofnik> any kubuntu users?
[10:38] <blitzace1234> secure enough for the average home user without any aditios
[10:38] <selinium> NikoKesten, What are you using vpn for? If you need vpn cool, if not take a look at freenx, it is much quicker.
[10:38] <blitzace1234> *aditions
[10:38] <ICE9> anyone
[10:38] <trappist> if security came in a bottle, microsoft would sell it.  security takes a little work on your part.
[10:38] <cafuego> NikoKesten: Also check /https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[10:38] <blitzace1234> *additions
[10:39] <blitzace1234> 8ffs
[10:39] <udfhdus> ehm. I am very new to linux and i don't know if ubuntu is very secure
[10:39] <NikoKesten> freenx eh? all I really need is a way to play lan games over teh net
[10:39] <Noaires> selinium: sudo make install seems to work
[10:39] <udfhdus> I don't have the vocabulary to explain it in detail :)
[10:39] <ICE9> anyone
[10:39] <ICE9> I need help
[10:39] <selinium> Noaires, :)
[10:39] <oofnik> ICE9 do you have it installed?
[10:39] <trappist> ICE9: /etc/init.d/xinetd start if you have it
[10:39] <NikoKesten> what is freenx?
[10:39] <ICE9> yesh its itinstalled
[10:39] <ompaul> security is not a product it is a process - and never forget that :-)
[10:39] <blitzace1234> think of it this way, (nearly)everyone is trying to hack windows machines, any linux distro is pretty safe
[10:39] <oofnik> NikoKesten check out http://freenx.berlios.de/
[10:40] <selinium> NikoKesten, Cool, np :) If you are looking for a remote desktop, take a look at freenx. but you obviously aren't! :)
[10:40] <chrisx1> hey im trying to listen to music from amarok and i hear no sound and it doesnt seem to start playing any ideas?
[10:40] <medgno> but linux won't save you if you run poorly coded PHP on your webserver
[10:40] <ICE9> thx
[10:40] <oofnik> ICE9 you should be able to do it by: sudo /etc/init.d/xinetd start
[10:40] <ICE9> that worked
[10:40] <NikoKesten> Thanks alot oofnik
[10:40] <ICE9> I'm in root
[10:40] <ompaul> medgno, and lots of other steps that you should not do :-)
[10:40] <ICE9> for the time being
[10:40] <udfhdus> yes thank. But (sorry) linux is the os the most skilled people use (except me) and i thought it would be a kind of "hobby" :)
[10:40] <selinium> Hi ompaul :)
[10:40] <ICE9> but I will when I go back to usr
[10:41] <ompaul> ICE9, why when you have sudo?
[10:41] <ICE9> user
[10:41] <ompaul> selinium, greetings and saluations
[10:41] <ICE9> cause you have to sudo everything
[10:41] <psusi> wit ubuntu your computer isn't going to get all virused up within 10 mins of being connected to the Internet without a firewall, like windows will... if that's how you define 'secure'
[10:41] <ICE9> everytime when I want to conf a file
[10:41] <ICE9> easier to just sudo -s
[10:41] <udfhdus> :) lol... yes...
[10:41] <chrisx1> nm i got xmms working now
[10:41] <blitzace1234> chrisx1, go into amarok configuration and engine
[10:41] <udfhdus> thanks
[10:41] <e1sbaer> how can I configure my bluetooth mouse/keyboard to get reconnected after a reboot?
[10:41] <blitzace1234> chrisx1, and see what engine you are using
[10:41] <chrisx1> theres only oss there
[10:41] <chrisx1> and its selected
[10:41] <udfhdus> this channel is really full :)
[10:42] <blitzace1234> ic
[10:42] <udfhdus> many ubuntu users worldwide he? :)
[10:42] <chrisx1> i meanr arts
[10:42] <selinium> udfhdus, there's only 632 of us? :)
[10:42] <blitzace1234> chrisx1, go into synaptic and get amarok-xine
[10:42] <_jason> e1sbaer, how do you connect them now, with some sort of command?
[10:42] <chrisx1> okay
[10:42] <chrisx1> hold on
[10:42] <udfhdus> yes. but i'm used to see 20-100 in an irc channel :)
[10:43] <selinium> udfhdus, not been here before then! :) Lots of helpful people :)
[10:43] <ompaul> ICE9, well you really should consider "sudo -i" if your going to insist on doing that - if your editing conf files the whole time I take it that it is a server in which case I am curious did you use the default breezy or the breezy server disk
[10:43] <oofnik> elsbaer how did you get them working in the first place?
[10:43] <chrisx1> blitzace1234,  amarok-xine isnt there
[10:43] <e1sbaer> _jason: I connect them with: hidd -c 00:50:F2:7F:19:9E
[10:43] <cafuego> udfhdus: There are only 20 users, the other 640 are bots.
[10:43] <selinium> cafuego, lol
[10:43] <chrisx1> doubt they be bots may be just ppl not at pc much?
[10:43] <psusi> beep...... ding....
[10:44] <e1sbaer> _jason: and the same command to connect the other devic
[10:44] <foxiness> am trying to install "drpython" and after that synaptic output this "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/python-wxversion_2.6.1.1.1ubuntu2_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/wxversion.py', which is also in package wxpython2.5.3" ,its should be remove it or what i dont know if this safe?
[10:44] <cafuego> chrisx1: No, bots.
[10:44] <fox> why they are so many bot?? O_O
[10:44] <_jason> e1sbaer, you can probably just have it run that command on startup, try preferences->sessions->startup... you could also make a bash script and just call that on startup i guess
[10:44] <chrisx1> lol
[10:44] <chrisx1> k
[10:44] <oofnik> elsbaer you should be able to .. yeah _jason got it hah
[10:44] <ompaul> selinium, sorry your not a bot you are actually human
[10:44] <udfhdus> First ubuntu install. Never thought any linux would accept my wireless card without configuration! From now on i love ubuntu! :)
[10:44] <oofnik> haha udfhdus we're glad you like it
[10:44] <selinium> ompaul, Damn, i have been found out!
[10:44] <Sionide> udfhdus, ubuntu rocks.
[10:45] <e1sbaer> _jason: where do i have to put this script ?
[10:45] <Kovecses> misfit_toybuntu, you here?
[10:45] <fox> why live cd of ubuntu are so slow??
[10:45] <clb_> how do I switch between workspaces?
[10:45] <chrisx1> Any1 Have Any Ideas Where To Get TLS?
[10:45] <selinium> Sionide, Indeed! and it rolls!
[10:45] <Kovecses> fox, becuase it is running off the cd
[10:45] <Sionide> clb_, ctrl+alt+arrow key if you have it set up that way?
[10:45] <ompaul> fox, because it operates in ram only
[10:45] <blitzace1234> yeh in reviews it always scores very high on hardware recognition, the only problem i have is that it wont recognise that my monitor can supprt 75hz
[10:45] <udfhdus> yes. O.K. don't want to annoy you any more. I try to find a good tutorial :)
[10:45] <oofnik> elsbaer try this: System --> Preferences --> Sessions --> Startup Programs
[10:45] <selinium> clb_ use the switcher in the bottom right hand corner
[10:45] <chrisx1> i bbs ppl
[10:45] <foxiness> is it safe to remove wxpython2.5.3 from ubuntu ? any one "am tring to install drpython with wxpython2.6"
[10:45] <clb_> Sionide: yeah that works.. any other keyboard hotkeys?
[10:45] <_jason> e1sbaer, I think you can just make that the command to run on startup... if that doesn't work let me know and I will help you with the script
[10:45] <Sionide> clb_, you can make ctrl+alt+1,2,3,4 etc work to switch workspaces
[10:45] <Kovecses> ompaul, if it ran in ram only it would be super fast
[10:45] <Sionide> clb_, you can make your own hotkeys
[10:46] <oofnik> elsebaer then click add and type in the command
[10:46] <Sionide> clb_, go system->prefs->keyboard shortcuts
[10:46] <oofnik> foxiness i think you should be okay
[10:46] <selinium> Kovecses, It is all loaded into ram, it does not use the HD
[10:46] <clb_> Sionide: ok thanks
[10:46] <foxiness> oofnik, thank you very mutch :)
[10:47] <Kovecses> selinium, i know it doesnt use the hd..... but it doesnt load ALL into ram... if everything was in ram it would run really really fast
[10:47] <tarzeauBSD> Deep6: you! here?
[10:47] <blitzace1234> knoppix can do that
[10:47] <Sionide> clb_, no problem - don't you have the workspace switcher on your gnome-panel though?
[10:47] <selinium> Kovecses, So where does the rest go then?
[10:47] <Sionide> clb_, i do and thats by the far the easiest way
[10:47] <Kovecses> selinium, its on the cd
[10:48] <oofnik> no prob foxiness
[10:48] <clb_> Sionide: I don't like using mouse to switch between them
[10:48] <selinium> Kovecses, ? I may be mistaken then. SO if you remove the CD ubuntu will stop running?
[10:48] <Sionide> clb_, fair enough - definately make your own shortcuts for doing it then, whatever suits you (and doesn't do something else already)
[10:48] <blitzace1234> i dont think it would let you
[10:48] <blitzace1234> you'd have to use a pin
[10:49] <e1sbaer> _jason: i have created a script that should do this, but how can i put it into a runlevel to get executet at startup?
[10:49] <_jason> system -> preferences -> startup ->add then type your command
[10:49] <Kovecses> selinium, it will stay in the state that it is in... but if you try and use it...like say opening firefox or something it will promt for the cd...
[10:50] <selinium> Kovecses, OK , I will give it a go some other time. But thanks for the heads up!
[10:50] <_jason> e1sbaer, umm go to "sessions" after preferences then "startup"
[10:50] <clb_> I recently installed opera, but mozilla still opens as my default browser... how might I change that?
[10:50] <clb_> oh got it
[10:50] <Kovecses> selinium, just read up on the live cd....... you would need at least 4 gigs of ram for that to completely run in ram
[10:50] <ufk> hiya. where can i find a different mirror for apt-get?
[10:50] <selinium> Kovecses, not me then! :)
[10:51] <blitzace1234> has anyone had any luck in getting a logitech mouse working in ubuntu with all the extra buttons?
[10:51] <ompaul> Kovecses, correct, sloppy on that one
[10:51] <NikoKesten> I need help with Freenx
[10:52] <oofnik> NikoKesten what's the problem
[10:52] <e1sbaer> _jason: but this will be executet after the login, but i need the keyboard to login...
[10:52] <NikoKesten> What do I downlaod :P
[10:52] <oofnik> NikoKesten are you on breezy?
[10:52] <_jason> e1sbaer, good point... not sure of how to start things before then sorry
[10:52] <NikoKesten> yep
[10:53] <bluefrog-10> e1sbaer, /etc/init.d
[10:53] <oofnik> does anyone know if freenx is in the breezy repository?
[10:54] <theine> !skype
[10:54] <ubotu> methinks skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:54] <oofnik> NikoKesten I use hoary and breezy is set up differently so someone else should be able to help you better..
[10:54] <NikoKesten> ok
[10:54] <pjott> lol... My X-Girlfriend is on the phone, and whines... "OOOoooh... Chris, I love you! Please.. .Take me back *grynt-cry*"
[10:54] <NikoKesten> I will check synaptic
[10:54] <e1sbaer> bluefrog-10: but when i put the script in this directory it wouldn't be executet by default. how do i put it into a runlevel?
[10:55] <bluefrog-10> e1sbaer, hang on..
[10:55] <blitzace1234> exit
[10:56] <oofnik> so anyone have any ideas why i can't compile big things like wine without a full system lockup?
[10:56] <Romx> hola
[10:56] <oofnik> i've tried more than once, with and without X running
[10:56] <bluefrog-10> e1sbaer, make a link into /etc/rc.*
[10:56] <Romx> alguien me explica como bjar de version del gcc.para poder compilar el wine
[10:56] <NikoKesten> Does anyone here running Breezy have any info about Freenx?
[10:56] <bluefrog-10> e1sbaer, you could get webmin core i think to help otherwise
[10:57] <e1sbaer> bluefrog-10: webmin core? what is it?
[10:57] <oofnik> NikoKesten did you find it in synaptic?
[10:58] <oofnik> and do you have all repo's enabled?
[10:58] <NikoKesten> I am seaching
[10:58] <oofnik> ok
[10:58] <ufk> when i'm trying to apt-get update to http://us.archive.ubuntu.com it trys to connect to 1.0.0.0.!?!?? can anyone give me a different address for apt-update ?
[10:58] <NikoKesten> I have a question, will Freenx allow me to play Lan games over the internet?
[10:58] <bluefrog-10> e1sbaer, synpatic > universe >webmin, there's a sys init menu in it.. webmin administration made easy...
[10:59] <Hostile> hmm, slight problem here...The updater thing around the clock area in gnome says I have updates...so I click it...it asks me my password...and then I press enter..and my gnome freezes up and I have to restart X with ctrl+alt+backspace and re login
[10:59] <oofnik> NikoKesten i don't think so
[10:59] <NikoKesten> then whats it for?
[10:59] <me|ong> whats the command to install kde again?
[10:59] <ufk> there are no other mirrors?
[10:59] <oofnik> freenx forwards x protocol data (keyboard/mouse/video) over a connection
[10:59] <oofnik> but it might be too slow to play games
[10:59] <NikoKesten> oh
[11:00] <thrush> me|ong: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:00] <oofnik> it's like vnc but 50 times faster but still not good enough for lan games
[11:00] <Answer> ufk: apt-get update
[11:00] <Noaires> selinium: have you installed wine cvs before?
[11:00] <NikoKesten> I am looking for a way to play LAN games over the internet.. VPN  is the only way I know, are there others?
[11:00] <bluefrog-10> e1sbaer,  other wise try to put your script in /etc/init.d and then ln-s etc/init.d/script /etc/rc2.d/S92script, find a number that suits you..
[11:00] <SirKillalot> can I empty /tmp/ without any doubt?
[11:00] <ufk> Answer: ahhh?? how will that give me a list of other mirrors?
[11:00] <me|ong> thanks thrush
[11:00] <Hostile> NikoKesten, Ive done that with VPN
[11:00] <thrush> NikoKesten: u could probably play runescape like that :)
[11:00] <Hostile> works nicely
[11:01] <NikoKesten> My problem is I cant get VPN running
[11:01] <ufk> oh
[11:01] <ufk> :)
[11:01] <me|ong> hmm
[11:01] <NikoKesten> can anyone lend me some aide?
[11:01] <me|ong> couldnt find the package
[11:01] <pjott> How do I find a file that I have renamed or moved while downloading in Ubuntu? Is there a way to search for it? :s
[11:01] <marco_> hey guys, is there an "image viewer" that i can download to edit images?
[11:02] <e1sbaer> bluefrog-10: okay, thanks
[11:02] <bluefrog-10> e1sbaer, have a look at /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh as well
[11:02] <oofnik> NikoKesten specifically what games
[11:02] <Answer> pjott: man grep
[11:02] <Answer> marco_, gimp is installed by default
[11:02] <NikoKesten> Anyone for helping me get a VPN server running on Breezy (preferably OpenVpn)
[11:02] <pjott> Answer, Is it called "Man Grep" ? :s
[11:02] <n0odl3> does anyone know anything about configuring gpm?
[11:02] <marco_> is gimp pretty good?
[11:02] <fmasi> how do i install an icon theme
[11:02] <oofnik> fmasi where did you get it from
[11:02] <chrisx1> is it easy to install KDE Desktop on ubuntu?
[11:02] <Answer> pjott, grep is a command used for searching.  man grep will display the users manual for that command
[11:03] <me|ong> chris
[11:03] <me|ong> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:03] <thrush> marco_: very good. slight learning curve
[11:03] <me|ong> :P
[11:03] <bluefrog-10> fmasi, synaptic > artmanager
[11:03] <fmasi> http://www.gnome-look.org
[11:03] <marco_> cool, thanks
[11:03] <beginner1> As you know i am new to linux. Is there any list of good programs for ubuntu?
[11:03] <chrisx1> is that like kde me|ong
[11:03] <Answer> marco_, gimp will probably do everything you want to do
[11:03] <pjott> k ;)
[11:03] <fmasi> ok
[11:03] <Answer> beginner1, run Synaptic.  you can search and install from there
[11:03] <me|ong> yes
[11:03] <SirKillalot> anyone managed installing gimpshop?
[11:03] <chrisx1> ummkay
[11:03] <SirKillalot> the gimp with the photoshop interface hack
[11:03] <bluefrog-10> beginner1, applications > add applications
[11:04] <beginner1> Yes thanks!
[11:04] <ptlo> beginner1, i find this list full of c00l programs: http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/blog/projects/ubuntu/1131773415 (ok some of them are not strictly programs, but ubuntu-related services)
[11:04] <n0odl3> does anyone here know how to set up a MousePen tablet? through the Xfree or gpm?
[11:04] <pjott> Answer, No, when I wrote that, nothing happened :s
[11:04] <beginner1> thanks
[11:04] <Answer> pjott:  type in the command line  "man grep"
[11:04] <me|ong> um crap
[11:04] <pjott> grep Quake.3.Arena_for_Linux.tar
[11:05] <ufk> thanks alot
[11:05] <Answer> pjott:  grep -R <filename> *
[11:05] <fmasi> bluefrog-10 i cant find it
[11:05] <oofnik> does anyone know if breezy will configure a intellimouse correctly on install?
[11:05] <Answer> oofnik, intellimouse worked for me.
[11:05] <oofnik> great, thanks
[11:05] <bluefrog-10> fmasi, in universe
[11:06] <melong> there.. this should make it wasier for copy paste :P
[11:06] <bluefrog-10> fmasi, art manager
[11:06] <fmasi> a lets try again
[11:06] <n0odl3> Does anyone know how to set up a MousePen tablet through Xfree?
[11:06] <melong> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[11:06] <melong> how do i fix that?
[11:06] <bluefrog-10> fmasi, gnome art
[11:06] <melong> gotta download it?
[11:07] <e1sbaer> bluefrog-10: it seems like i'm the only one who has this prob because i can't find anything about it on the web... do you have experience with bluetooth-keyboards?
[11:07] <bluefrog-10> no
[11:07] <Answer> melong, apt-get update
[11:07] <beginner1> what is the universe ...
[11:07] <melong> ok thanks
[11:08] <pjott> Answer: I happened again. Well, nothing happens... It just goes to a new line with no "root@cm-62:/home/pjott#" just an empty line :s
[11:08] <n0odl3> does anyone know what a repeater is?
[11:08] <beginner1> i need it for the installation of addional programs
[11:08] <Answer> pjott, that means it did not find the file.
[11:08] <cyberix_> "sudo apt-get update" tells me...
[11:08] <n0odl3> it has to do something with a mouse/pointer device
[11:08] <cyberix_> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[11:08] <cyberix_> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[11:08] <pjott> DOH!! :S
[11:08] <n0odl3> cyberix_: I know how to fix that problem
[11:08] <Answer> beginner1, are you using synaptic?  add the repositories
[11:08] <Spudchat> hi im writing a bash script that id like to have read a variable from a file...any ideas on how that would be done?
[11:08] <Seveas> cyberix_, use archive.ubuntu.com instead of us.archive
[11:08] <cyberix_> The solution to that the software is broken is to run it again :-)
[11:09] <Seveas> Spudchat, -> #bash
[11:09] <beginner1> thanks
[11:09] <cyberix_> Seveas: Ok
[11:09] <melong> no go :S
[11:09] <jasongrieves> anyone use XDMCP?
[11:09] <kyle__> I just installed breezy and my cpu is always at 100% and the system runs everything real slow anyone got any ideas?
[11:09] <NikoKesten> I got open VPN installed, now an anyone help me PLEASE?
[11:10] <pjott> Well, then I'll download it again, Answer :)
[11:10] <fmasi> bluefrog-10 i found it it is ganome art
[11:10] <chrisx1> any 1 know any good dvd players?
[11:10] <bluefrog-10> jasongrieves, what do you need XDMCP for?
[11:10] <fmasi> thx and fock microsoft
[11:10] <daminap> ok im now ready to try again with the java thing
[11:10] <Lardarse> does anyone know how to install a package that i downloaded?
[11:10] <oofnik> kyle__ open the system monitor to see what's eating your cpu up
[11:10] <superbeast> for installing America's army what would be the command to run it from desktop  according to this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AmericasArmy ?
[11:10] <chrisx1> daminap, i had problem installing java on every linux i tried
[11:10] <kyle__> gnome system monitor at 23 % nothing else
[11:10] <jasongrieves> bluefrog-10 doing some remote logins for users
[11:10] <n0odl3> what is a protocol?
[11:11] <daminap> i no right
[11:11] <n0odl3> or a protocol for USB pointer devices?
[11:11] <jasongrieves> bluefrog-10 it works well, GMD does a good job with it
[11:11] <SirKillalot> superbeast, just start 'armyops'
[11:11] <daminap> i tried it like 200 times!
[11:11] <Answer> kyle__, how fast of a cpu and how much memory
[11:11] <kyle__> 2.6 2 gig
[11:11] <bluefrog-10> kyle, get rid of /etc/init.d/hotkey and reboot see qhat it's like afterwards
[11:11] <jasongrieves> bluefrog-10 besides being in-secure that is :)
[11:11] <Noaires> cyberix_: edit your /apt/sources.list file and change us.archive to archive on every line
[11:11] <daminap> aww bob 2 isnt here
[11:11] <chrisx1> What Should i select for defualt Display manager?
[11:11] <chrisx1> GDM or KDM
[11:11] <bluefrog-10> jasongrieves, with ltsp?
[11:11] <Noaires> cyberix_: then apt-get update
[11:11] <SirKillalot> that what you like?
[11:11] <SirKillalot> @ Chris_Tucker
[11:11] <SirKillalot> ops
[11:11] <Answer> chrisx1, gdm... use all the defaults
[11:11] <oofnik> GDM for gnome, KDM for kde
[11:11] <SirKillalot> chrisx1, I mean
[11:12] <kyle__> ok ill try that
[11:12] <kyle__> wait how?
[11:12] <n0odl3> does anyone know what a protocol is or the protocol used for usb devices to repeat?
[11:12] <jasongrieves> bluefrog-10 no, remote display to a server
[11:12] <superbeast> it isn't working i need to install it
[11:12] <chrisx1> i did apt-get kbunto-desktop
[11:12] <SirKillalot> hm.. I hate cedega... wine works well o.O
[11:12] <jasongrieves> not wrking with the ltsp
[11:12] <Answer> n0odl3, i'm sorry but I don't think your question makes sense
[11:12] <oofnik> kyle just sudo rm /etc/init.d/hotkey
[11:12] <kyle__> thanks
[11:12] <oofnik> yup
[11:12] <n0odl3> Answer: do you know anything about gpm?
[11:12] <daminap> oh yea im dreadnought
[11:12] <bluefrog-10> jasongrieves, anyway enabling XDMCP=true should be sufficient, take gtk+ theme fro remote login
[11:13] <Seveas> n0odl3, usb is the protocol :)
[11:13] <Answer> n0odl3, I don't think there is a separate protocol for repeating...
[11:13] <daminap> someones on my name!
[11:13] <jasongrieves> bluefrog-10 it works, im trying to figure out if it created a X session
[11:13] <jasongrieves> on say 1.0
[11:13] <jasongrieves> or osmething
[11:13] <jasongrieves> bluefrog-10 i get the impression it doesn', im used to VNC
[11:13] <kyle__> no file exists can't remove hotkey
[11:14] <bluefrog-10> jasongrieves, connect with a client you will see...
[11:14] <gimmulf> Is there any good console based mail klient to run paralell with thunderbird? (example. When an email has been read in Thunderbird, the console based email klient know about this and mark the email as read :> )
[11:14] <daminap> ok someone help me with java
[11:14] <oofnik> hmm kyle__ i don't know
[11:14] <kyle__> thanks for tryin
[11:14] <pjott> How do I Log In?
[11:14] <Answer> gimmulf, maybe you can integrate with Pine, but I seriously doubt it.
[11:14] <oofnik> kyle__ have you rebooted
[11:14] <n0odl3> Seveas: gpm is prompting which protocol i should use for repeating... should i just type in "usb"
[11:14] <Lardarse> i have this package sitting on my desktop and i don't know how to install it
[11:14] <kyle__> several times
[11:14] <jasongrieves> bluefrog-10 what command will show that
[11:14] <kyle__> reloaded as well
[11:15] <bluefrog-10> kyle, get rid of /etc/init.d/hotkey-setup
[11:15] <Answer> pjott, /msg nickserv identify <password>
[11:15] <gimmulf> Answer:  oki
[11:15] <jasongrieves> bluefrog-10 ps shows me the gnoem informaiton is running
[11:15] <phoghawk> Lardarse, dpkg -i PACKAGENAME
[11:15] <kyle__> worked for a day then watched a movie and next morning slow...
[11:15] <Seveas> n0odl3, I have no idea what gpm is :)
[11:15] <Answer> Lardarse, use apt-get or synaptic to install packages... much easier than manually
[11:15] <jasongrieves> bluefrog-10 ps shows me the gnome binaries are running
[11:15] <Lardarse> Answer: i can't get it to show up in synaptic
[11:15] <bluefrog-10> jasongrieves, how your clients are going to use the login screen?
[11:15] <kyle__> ok got rid of hotkey-setup
[11:15] <veloct> Lardase, do what phoghawk suggested
[11:15] <phoghawk> Lardarse, open a terminal and type: "dpkg -i packagefilenamehere"
[11:15] <Answer> Lardarse, use dpkg -i
[11:15] <bluefrog-10> jasongrieves, thru ssh?
[11:16] <jasongrieves> one sec
[11:16] <kyle__> ill be back
[11:16] <veloct> Lardase, since is on you desktop  you'll need to change dir to the Desktop the dpkg -i package
[11:17] <Lardarse> i worked out how to cd
[11:17] <jasongrieves> bluefrog-10 it appears on display :2.0 on server
[11:17] <Lardarse> and that i had to sudo the command
[11:17] <jasongrieves> but an application is complaining that it can't get source from server:2.0
[11:17] <jasongrieves> where server = hostname
[11:17] <Lardarse> now i need to hunt down dependencies
[11:17] <daminap> what does sudo mean anyways
[11:18] <Lardarse> SuperUser DO ?
[11:18] <bluefrog-10> jasongrieves, sry can't help you, am using ltsp myself
[11:18] <Lardarse> (i'm guessing)
[11:18] <phoghawk> Is anyone in here willing to help me solve my sound problem? I have a desktop PC with a Audigy Soudblaster Sound Card. ALSA supposedly supports this. However, whenever I have music playing (in any program), my computer will eventually just completely freeze. It often occurs in between tracks if that means anything. Someone advised me to add "pci=noacpi" to the kernel line in GRUB, but it didn't help. Does anyone have any more ideas?
[11:18] <thrush> Lardarse: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list there is a universe entry copy that and paste, change universe to multiverse save and exit, type sudo apt-get update - if u havent already
[11:18] <jasongrieves> bluefrog-10 no worries, ltsp is great stuff
[11:18] <jb__> i'd be grateful for some help with this... (new to linux) i can't adjust the main sound level, it's stuck on maximum... if anyone has any suggestions?
[11:19] <jasongrieves> saw it running yesterday on and old PII
[11:19] <jasongrieves> ubuntu never looked better
[11:19] <Lardarse> thrush: i have synaptic set up to find  muliverse and universe
[11:19] <pjott> Well guys, I have to go now ;)
[11:19] <pjott> C Ya all tomorrow ;D
[11:19] <thrush> Lardarse: ah then nm :)
[11:19] <Lardarse> ok
[11:20] <thrush> Lathiat: what app are u looking for?
[11:20] <thrush> Lardarse: ^
[11:20] <daminap> where is the plugin for mov files?
[11:20] <Lardarse> i'm trying to install skype
[11:20] <Lardarse> i have the package
[11:20] <phoghawk> daminap, in the w32codecs package
[11:20] <Answer> daminap, see #ubuntu-pr0n
[11:20] <Lardarse> but it says it needs dependencies
[11:21] <phoghawk> Answer, lol
[11:21] <Lardarse> Answer: lol
[11:21] <Lardarse> ehe
[11:21] <phoghawk> Lardarse, what dependencies do you need?
[11:21] <Lardarse> well...
[11:21] <Lardarse> tht's the thing
[11:21] <jasongrieves> bluefrog-10 i was wrong its not on :.0
[11:21] <jasongrieves> 2.0
[11:21] <phoghawk> Lardarse, it doesn't list any?
[11:21] <Lardarse>  dunno if it will tell me 1 at a time, or if it's telling me tha ti only need 1 thing...
[11:21] <Lardarse> it lists only 1
[11:22] <Lardarse> so is that all of them i need
[11:22] <phoghawk> Lardarse, you probably only need one thing
[11:22] <jasongrieves> admin users can conect via X -query SERVER
[11:22] <Lardarse> ok
[11:22] <phoghawk> Lardarse, what is it?
[11:22] <Lardarse> i'll synaptic it
[11:22] <jasongrieves> admin users can conect via X -query SERVER :DISPLAY
[11:22] <phoghawk> Lardarse, good idea
[11:22] <_tarball> Any one know how to get a 'reverse' vnc session to start?  I have a listening vncviewer on my gentoo box and I am starting the connecting vnc server on a W2k box.  I can get a connection but vncviewer doesn't open a window.  Any ideas?
[11:22] <Lardarse>  skype depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2);
[11:22] <_tarball> Oops I meant Ubuntu box!
[11:22] <jasongrieves> but unlike vnc, the xdmcp protocol doesn't seem to put an X server on the local machine ,
[11:22] <bimberi> Lardarse: are you running breezy?
[11:22] <jasongrieves> but I can't really tell
[11:22] <daminap> Answer thets an empty channel!
[11:22] <phoghawk> Lardarse, I'm almost positive that's in the repos
[11:22] <Lardarse> bimberi: yes - the upgrade was a bitch
[11:23] <Answer> daminap, good things come to those who wait!
[11:23] <phoghawk> daminap, AHAHAHA
[11:23] <oofnik> er.. does anyone know about re-compiling gcc?
[11:23] <Lardarse> would'vw been easier if i had a breezy CD
[11:23] <Chris_Tucker> :(
[11:23] <bimberi> Lardarse: k, look for a skype package at seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:23] <Lardarse> oofnik: sounds painful
[11:23] <phoghawk> oofnik, For what reason?
[11:23] <Lardarse> bimberi: i have the pckage...
[11:23] <oofnik> painful, yes.. haha.. i can't seem to compile anything without a full system lock up
[11:23] <Lardarse> ouch
[11:23] <Chris_Tucker> me no likey big 2 MB package list files for apt-get update
[11:23] <bimberi> Lardarse: was it from there?
[11:24] <oofnik> music loops, mouse stops responding and i need to hard reset
[11:24] <oofnik> pretty nasty eh
[11:24] <Lardarse> no, it was from the skype website
[11:24] <Lardarse> skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb
[11:24] <phoghawk> oofnik, That's similar to my problem, but it isn't caused by gcc
[11:24] <oofnik> what else?
[11:24] <daminap> huh?
[11:24] <Chris_Tucker> i want highspeed net =X
[11:24] <bimberi> Lardarse: Seveas has repackaged it for breezy
[11:24] <phoghawk> Lardarse, search the Ubuntu forums for a neat app called "Automatix" it will automatically install Skype for you.
[11:25] <henk> Hi i fetched a cvs repository of wxwidgets, There is a ./debian directory in it. So i guess i should use dpkg-builddebs to make the package. However there is no debian/control file, but a debian/control.on file. I probably need some step to generate the real needed files from this. can anyone tell me what i need to do
[11:25] <henk> dpkg-buildpackage i mean
[11:25] <daminap> mike?
[11:25] <phoghawk> henk, you could try to find a prebuilt deb
[11:25] <henk> phoghawk, yes that i could
[11:26] <synapsis> how can i find out how big the os for ubuntu is?
[11:26] <Seveas> !info wxwidgets
[11:26] <Answer> synapsis, df -ah
[11:26] <phoghawk> henk, as far as doing it the "fun" way, I can't help you there. lol
[11:26] <oofnik> synapsis, you mean the size of the installed operating system?
[11:26] <henk> but i'd like to learn how to do stuff like this 'you can give a man a fish and he has food for a day .. you can t... well you know'
[11:27] <chrisx1> Anyone Recommend A Good DVD-Player?
[11:27] <synapsis> oofnik: yes
[11:27] <daminap> any thing pioneer or jbl
[11:27] <Answer> synapsis, df -ah
[11:27] <phoghawk> henk, I know. I'm sure there's plenty of .deb building tutorials around the web. I just don't really know how
[11:27] <sbalneav> "If you build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day.  If you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life".  Or something like that.
[11:27] <daminap> Answer what were y talkin about?
[11:27] <phoghawk> chrisx1, Totem, mplayer, xine. There's a lot of them
[11:27] <jasongrieves> bluefrog-10 u still around? does anyone know if XDMCP starts an Xsession when a user requests?
[11:27] <synapsis> Answer: 1.7G is roughly how big it is?
[11:27] <jasongrieves> i guess that is worded poorly
[11:28] <chrisx1> ty phoghawk
[11:28] <Answer> synapsis, it can be much smaller with the minimum install, or much bigger if you keep installing more packages
[11:28] <abahatar> hi
[11:28] <sbalneav> jasongrieves: Yep, when you connext, an X session will be spawned.
[11:28] <jasongrieves> VNC must be started with a vncserver to start on say 1.0, does XDMCP just push all data through network to the client without using the vidoe card
[11:28] <phoghawk> chrisx1, what's ty mean?
[11:28] <felipe_> how do I remove the 686 kernel from synaptic?
[11:28] <abahatar> somebody spanish?
[11:28] <jasongrieves> sbalneav but it spawns an X session on the client, not on the server?
[11:28] <Answer> jasongrieves, yes it uses remote frame buffer, look into that
[11:28] <veloct> phoghawk ty = thank you
[11:28] <phoghawk> felipe_, You mean divert it?
[11:28] <phoghawk> veloct, thank you sir
[11:28] <bluefrog-10> jasongrieves, apart from using XDMCP with ltsp, am afraid I won't be of big help to u
[11:29] <synapsis> Answer: so /dev/hdal used shows 1.7G, thats the answer?
[11:29] <jasongrieves> Answer the VFB?
[11:29] <veloct> phoghawk :)
[11:29] <jasongrieves> not virtual, remote huh
[11:29] <Answer> jasongrieves, yes but over hte network it is remote frame buffer
[11:29] <kyle__> its just as bad but i did find whats eating it using the sys mon pref...    xorg 11%  syslogd 1 % klogd 37% gnome sys mon 21%  dd 24%
[11:29] <Answer> synapsis, that is how much disk space you have used... I dont know how to answer your question any better than that
[11:29] <phoghawk> felipe_, I don't know the intricacies of dpkg-divert. I'm sure you can find specifics somewhere... including "man dpkg-divert"
[11:29] <sbalneav> You're already running X on the client.  The X server on the client makes an XDMCP request to have it's session managed.  The server then launches the session manager (i.e. gdmlogin)
[11:29] <felipe_> phoghawk, not sure what you mean. I intalled it to see if it would work with the nvidia drivers, but it didnt't and now I want to remove it
[11:29] <chrisx1> phoghawk, i try to load totem and get Totem could not startup.
[11:29] <chrisx1> No reason.
[11:29] <jasongrieves> Answer does tha tmean the DISPLAY for the server is diffrent
[11:29] <synapsis> Answer: thats ok, i haven't installed much so its gotta be roughly around that, thanks =)
[11:30] <jasongrieves> i.e. if app wan'ts to know what SOURCE is for server
[11:30] <Answer> synapsis, you could use a minimal install option to make it less tho
[11:30] <jasongrieves> and I already told it TARGET is client
[11:30] <phoghawk> chrisx1, Totem should already be installed. DId you just try to install a different version or something
[11:30] <synapsis> Answer: i really don't mind, but thanks for the option
[11:30] <ubuntu> Whats the root password for ubunto live cd??
[11:30] <ptlo> synapsis, a small poll (35 users responded) i did on breezy installations is :minimum 1174 MB, maximum 4517 MB, average 2492 MB (note that most of these are upgrades from hoary, so the sizes can be probably be smaller)
[11:30] <NikoKesten> how do you open Carpaltunnel????
[11:30] <Answer> jasongrieves, umm when you start the vncserver you should be able to specify a display #
[11:30] <bluefrog-10> jasongrieves, u try to do that for in house clients?
[11:30] <ubuntu> Whats the root password for ubunto live cd??
[11:30] <Answer> ubuntu, sudo su root
[11:30] <bimberi> ubuntu: there isn't one, you can use sudo
[11:30] <daminap> ubuntu there isnt one
[11:30] <ubuntu> Alright
[11:30] <jasongrieves> Answer, XDMCP doesn't use VNC?
[11:30] <NikoKesten> how do you open Carpaltunnel????
[11:30] <chrisx1> no i did apt-get but sed installed so i typed in console totem
[11:30] <ubuntu> I wasn wondering.. su didnt work
[11:31] <chrisx1> and sed
[11:31] <bur[n] er> !tell ubuntu about sudo
[11:31] <phoghawk> Niko__, I would imagine by typing "CarpalTunnel" in a terminal
[11:31] <jasongrieves> bluefrog-10 yep
[11:31] <Answer> jasongrieves, sorry I dunno about xdmcp
[11:31] <synapsis> ptlo: would you happen to know how much windows roughly installs for an average installation for a contrast?
[11:31] <ubuntu> I know what sudo is
[11:31] <daminap> !tell me about sudo
[11:31] <ubuntu> Just other live cd's I used have root pass
[11:31] <chrisx1> ** (totem:14093): WARNING **: No GConf default video sink key and xvimagesink doesn't work
[11:31] <chrisx1> ** Message: failed to render default video sink from gconf
[11:31] <bur[n] er> jasongrieves: you're trying to set up a vnc server?
[11:31] <jasongrieves> Answer understood, vnc is so muchs lsower hwoever
[11:31] <Answer> !tell daminap about ubotu
[11:31] <bluefrog-10> jasongrieves, so u should give ltsp a try, ther's an otpion in ltsp to run local apps
[11:31] <daminap> wow thanks not (frowns)
[11:31] <ptlo> synapsis, sorry, i wouldn't know (even by a longshot)
[11:31] <jasongrieves> bur[n] er im no dong want to setup vnc sessions for multiple users
[11:31] <oofnik> for those of you using vnc, try freenx
[11:31] <Answer> jasongrieves, I know vnc uses remote frame buffer... other things might be integrated into the virtual machine to forward the data and then render it locally on the remote comp
[11:32] <oofnik> if your server is on a unix system that is
[11:32] <jasongrieves> right
[11:32] <synapsis_> ptlo: thanks a lot, much appreciated
[11:32] <phoghawk> chrisx1, that's weird. Try just going to Applications>Sound and Video>Totem Movie Player
[11:32] <kyle__> bluefrog-10 its just as bad but i did find whats eating it using the sys mon pref...    xorg 11%  syslogd 1 % klogd 37% gnome sys mon 21%  dd 24%
[11:32] <chrisx1> kk
[11:32] <ufk> hiya. some of the packages that i'm trying to install gives me: dpkg: ../../main/packages.c:191: process_queque: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' faild. any ideas?
[11:32] <chrisx1> gives error "no reason"
[11:32] <jasongrieves> Answer lets say I have 2 users who want rmeote access
[11:32] <bluefrog-10> kyle__, running ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:32] <jasongrieves> Answer vnc i have ot setup 2 servers
[11:32] <kyle__> ubuntu
[11:32] <jasongrieves> Answer correct?
[11:33] <phoghawk> chrisx1, i know this won't solve your totem woes, but I usually use gxine for watching dvds. If you need a quick fix, apt-get install gxine
[11:33] <jasongrieves> vncserver 3:user or whatever
[11:33] <Answer> jasongrieves, yeah you need two different displays or they will both be fighting over one display
[11:33] <bur[n] er> jasongrieves: I understand... have you tried tightvncserver?  it's faster than normal vnc
[11:33] <ompaul> ubuntu, sudo -i that help?
[11:33] <jasongrieves> vncserver 4:user
[11:33] <synapsis_> what is a delete command?
[11:33] <Answer> synapsis_, rm
[11:33] <phoghawk> synapsis_, rm and rmdir
[11:33] <chrisx1> E: Couldn't find package gxine
[11:33] <bur[n] er> synapsis_: rm -r for directories
[11:33] <jasongrieves> bur[n] er not really, i just loved being able to have users log in via gdm and forget it
[11:33] <jasongrieves> bur[n] er plus speeds to be much higher
[11:33] <synapsis_> thanks all
[11:33] <phoghawk> chrisx1, how long have you been using ubuntu?
[11:33] <jasongrieves> bur[n] er and clieaner for htat matter
[11:34] <oofnik> so besides re-compiling gcc (is that even possible?) what can i do to make things compile without completely locking up my system? does anyone have any ideas? this happens compiling fairly large apps like wine, freenx, etc
[11:34] <bur[n] er> jasongrieves: u used to use XDMCP?
[11:34] <chrisx1> umm tried it like once
[11:34] <oofnik> i have tried with and witnout xorg running
[11:34] <jasongrieves> bur[n] er yep
[11:34] <chrisx1> but since windows messin me about
[11:34] <Answer> oofnik, why are you tyring to compile them?
[11:34] <chrisx1> i thought id use it more often
[11:34] <phoghawk> oofnik, I'm sure there's other C compilers around
[11:34] <synapsis_> is anyone using amsn here?
[11:34] <chrisx1> i tried
[11:34] <oofnik> answer the binaries don't work for some strange reason
[11:34] <chrisx1> it needed tsl
[11:34] <phoghawk> synapsis_, Ubuntu doesn't like amsn
[11:34] <chrisx1> or tls
[11:34] <oofnik> phoghawk how can i tell make to use a different compiler
[11:34] <phoghawk> lol
[11:34] <Answer> oofnik, I don't think that compiling is the answer buddy
[11:35] <daminap> is there any known problems with ubuntu that would cause my windows partition to BSOD on me
[11:35] <mjr> oofnik, if your system is locking up while compiling, your hardware is most likely faulty
[11:35] <Answer> mjr, he's trying to compile huge things
[11:35] <oofnik> mjr that's what i thought but i ran a memtest for 48 hours once with no probs
[11:35] <jasongrieves> bur[n] er XDMCP works great
[11:35] <mjr> oofnik, doesn't necessarily mean you don't have a problem
[11:35] <phoghawk> oofnik, I don't know specifically. If you scan a make output, however, it usually looks for several compilers (including gcc). I would try removing gcc and installing some other compiler to see how that works
[11:35] <veloct> daminap: i don't think so unless an error was made during partitioning
[11:35] <jasongrieves> bur[n] er its just I can't figure out if XDMCP sets up a session on the server
[11:36] <mjr> memtest stresses only some parts of the system
[11:36] <jasongrieves> bur[n] er like :3.0
[11:36] <oofnik> ergh.. i'll just try binaries again
[11:36] <daminap> no i think it was spyware anyways
[11:36] <oofnik> these lockups are just extremely annoying
[11:36] <synapsis_> phog: so i've noticed =P
[11:36] <oofnik> they always occur during compiling big stuff and also completely out of the blue sometimes
[11:36] <phoghawk> oofnik, I have my fair share of lockups as well. It's so sad
[11:36] <synapsis_> phog: gaim seems like it'll be the only choice =(
[11:36] <LaLO> holaa
[11:36] <oofnik> cheap taiwanese hardware >:O
[11:36] <LaLO> necesito ayuda!!
[11:37] <phoghawk> synapsis_, What's wrong with gaim? THere's also Kopete anyways
[11:37] <oofnik> LaLO que es la problema
[11:37] <veloct> daminap: ok, sorry to hear that
[11:37] <watnu> i am looking for a GUI dns-server for ubuntu... anybody an idea?
[11:37] <LaLO> he metio unos archivos en la carpeta /etc/modprobe.d por causa de entender mal los pasos de una guia y ya no me carga linux, he tenido k entrar con el live cd pero no puedo ver mis archivos desde el live cd
[11:37] <phoghawk> LaLO, Do you only speak spanish? I speak very little
[11:37] <nalioth> !es
[11:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:37] <daminap> its made more prolific with unix though
[11:37] <LaLO> k puedo hacer ?
[11:37] <nalioth> LaLO: por favor, vaya de el #ubuntu-es
[11:37] <d-snp> hey I'm having problems with dowloading anime using Azureus, it can't connect to users, it doesn't error or anything, just doesn't work, my port forwarding is ok says the integrated port tester
[11:37] <polverari> hi, could somebody help me with a problem with my interner connection in ubuntu 5.10?
[11:37] <oofnik> ay LaLO mi espanol is muy mal.. sorry :(
[11:37] <kevor> Someone plz link me to the way to install mp3 thingies ;P
[11:38] <kyle__> anyone know what klogd does?
[11:38] <LasseL> watnu, dnspark.com :)
[11:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kevor about mp3
[11:38] <veloct> LalO: trata el canal #ubutu-es
[11:38] <synapsis_> phoghawk: nothings particularly 'wrong' with it, its just that i switched from windows to ubuntu and my brother's upset with the change (as am i sometimes).   but i wanna get a msn clone so it'll appease him =)
[11:38] <dts> kevor: ubuntuguide.or
[11:38] <dts> g
[11:38] <phoghawk> d-snp, what happens if you use another bittorrent client
[11:38] <watnu> LasseL: thank you!
[11:38] <phoghawk> dts, we're technically not supposed to support ubuntuguide.org. It breaks systems relatively easily
[11:38] <veloct> LaLO: #ubuntu-es, ese es el canal en espanol para ubuntu
[11:38] <nalioth> !ubuntuguide
[11:38] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[11:39] <d-snp> phoghawk, not sure, the one that comes with ubuntu doesn't resume very well
[11:39] <phoghawk> synapsis_, have you tried Kopete?
[11:39] <nalioth> dts: please dont recommend ubuntuguide
[11:39] <d-snp> azareus is a very sophisticated one..
[11:39] <phoghawk> d-snp, but does it connect to peers?
[11:39] <d-snp> I'd have to test, 1 sec, thanks for helping though :D
[11:39] <oofnik> azureus pwns
[11:40] <phoghawk> d-snp, I definitely prefer azurues too. However, I think I read that Breezy doesn't like Azureus very much. You might search the forums for threads on the subject.
[11:40] <LaLO> I put some files in /etc/modprobe.d by error but the system when I restart the computer dont want to enter to linux
[11:40] <polverari> hi, could somebody help me?
[11:40] <synapsis_> phoghawk: not yet, however i would like to uninstall amsn before i do, how can i remove it?
[11:40] <shawoho> tell me, polverari?
[11:40] <LaLO> what can i do ???
[11:40] <djk_> synapsis_: you could also try sim
[11:40] <phoghawk> synapsis_, open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get remove amsn"
[11:40] <phoghawk> LaLO, I wish I could help. I'm not that smart
[11:40] <polverari> my internet connection works in ubuntu, but stops from time to time
[11:41] <oofnik> LaLO did you try maybe using a live cd to delete the files?
[11:41] <Lardarse> ok... so i managed to install the pakage
[11:41] <polverari> then I have to restart /etc/init.d/network
[11:41] <polverari> why is that?
[11:41] <phoghawk> polverari, what's your connection config?
[11:41] <Lardarse> bimberi: thanks for the updated package
[11:41] <LaLO> yes but with live cd i cant see my files
[11:41] <LaLO> :(
[11:41] <synapsis_> phoghawk: thank you =)
[11:41] <synapsis_> djk_: do you think sim is better than kopete?
[11:41] <phoghawk> synapsis_, I try :)
[11:41] <Lardarse> now i need to work out how toadd it to my menu
[11:41] <polverari> well, Im using static IP for my ADSL router
[11:41] <d-snp> oeh I came at a bad time, looks very busy here phoghawk  :P bittorrent doesn't seem to connect either, has been trying for a minute or so
[11:41] <LaLO> I hace another account with other files
[11:41] <LaLO> :(
[11:42] <shawoho> pong.... jajajaja
[11:42] <shawoho> bye
[11:42] <polverari> I have my eth0 set
[11:42] <bimberi> Lardarse: np (well, for pointing you to it) :)
[11:42] <Lardarse> hehe
[11:42] <veloct> LaLO: i'm not that smart either sorry :(
[11:42] <polverari> what else?
[11:42] <djk_> synapsis_: personally i prefer gaim for its simplicity, kopete has nice features, so does sim.
[11:42] <Lardarse> synaptic installed the dependencies when it fixed the broken install of skype :-)
[11:42] <oofnik> LaLO you need to mount your hard drive in the live cd
[11:42] <Lardarse> now i need o work out how t add it to my menu
[11:42] <synapsis_> djk_: k great
[11:42] <phoghawk> djk_, I can't stand Kopete, but some people like it
[11:42] <LaLO> how ??
[11:43] <bimberi> Lardarse: Applications -> System Tools -> Applications Menu Editor (although I thought it got added somewhere in the Apps menu anyway - but could be mistaken)
[11:43] <polverari> phoghawk?
[11:43] <LaLO> can you tell me de command ?? :S
[11:43] <oofnik> LaLO do you know where ubuntu is installed
[11:43] <synapsis_> firefox keeps closing when i'm on myspace.com, has a problem with totem, anyone know how to fix this?
[11:43] <nalioth> LaLO: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LivecdRecovery
[11:43] <oofnik> synapsis same problem..
[11:43] <Lardarse> k
[11:43] <djk_> phoghawk: choice is a nice thing innit
[11:43] <Lardarse> i see it finally
[11:43] <LaLO> yes
[11:43] <LaLO> hdc5
[11:44] <synapsis_> oofnik: have you done anything about it?
[11:44] <veloct> LaLO: mount -a /dev/hdc5 /(whatever you want to call it)
[11:44] <phoghawk> polverari, Sorry. I don't know a lot about internet connections. I would wait until there are smarter people than me in here. There usually is
[11:44] <LaLO> ok thanks
[11:44] <oofnik> ok so you need to: sudo mount /dev/hdc5 /[something] 
[11:44] <jatos> hi
[11:44] <phoghawk> polverari, not that I'm the smartest person here at all. But if someone knows more about the issue, they're not speaking up :)
[11:44] <polverari> ok, thanx anyways, phoghawk
[11:44] <veloct> LaLO: yes you need to do it as sudo, sorry
[11:44] <oofnik> no synapsis_ i don't know what to do..
[11:44] <synapsis_> oofnik: hrm
[11:44] <LaLO> ok thanks
[11:45] <LaLO> :P
[11:45] <jatos> anyone know how to get set up my system so /bin/rpm exists in the same way it would on redhat?
[11:45] <nalioth> LaLO: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LivecdRecovery
[11:45] <phoghawk> oofnik, Have you tried simply reinstalling gcc?
[11:45] <oofnik> jatos i wouldn't want to have deb and rpm packages working together.. because they usually don't
[11:45] <phoghawk> jatos, what does /bin/rpm do on redhat?
[11:45] <oofnik> phoghawk, hm no i'll try that
[11:46] <phoghawk> oofnik, I've never had alien problems before. But apparently it's a last resort
[11:46] <jatos> its used by some package installers
[11:46] <phoghawk> oops not oofnik
[11:46] <synapsis_> jatos: do you like using redhat over ubuntu?
[11:46] <jatos> I trying to get an RPM to work
[11:46] <jatos> no, I want to use a redhat only package
[11:46] <daminap> doesnt red hat cost a fortune?
[11:46] <veloct> jatos: use alien to make it a .deb
[11:46] <nalioth> jatos: use alien
[11:46] <phoghawk> jatos, do you know about alien?
[11:46] <bimberi> nalioth: thanks for the LivecdRecovery link (would have been handy for that guy yesterday) :)
[11:46] <jatos> no
[11:46] <phoghawk> daminap, only the enterprise version
[11:46] <synapsis_> daminap: $150 for the enterprise package
[11:46] <nalioth> jatos: what pkg do you want?
[11:46] <nalioth> bimberi: the wiki is open to everyone :)
[11:46] <jatos> zervex DSM server
[11:47] <cafuego> daminap: Depends on how you value your soul.
[11:47] <daminap> hehe linux is supposed to be free
[11:47] <phoghawk> Linspire's sooooo lame
[11:47] <cafuego> daminap: Well, it is. You get the support for $150 and the Software for free.
[11:47] <bimberi> nalioth: oh yes, but sometimes it's a matter of knowing what's there :)
[11:47] <daminap> i never tried it
[11:47] <daminap> whasnt that lindows?
[11:47] <jatos> doubt you have, its a web hosting CP
[11:47] <oofnik> ok new problem... gnomebaker won't burn a cd, it complains about permissions to /dev/sg0, why is it looking for a SCSI device?
[11:48] <daminap> hmm does red hat sent out free discs like un=buntu?
[11:48] <cafuego> daminap: No, because their aim is to increase shareholder value.
[11:48] <nalioth> daminap: no distro that i know of sends free cds
[11:48] <phoghawk> daminap, Ubuntu is probably the only distro I know of that sends free disks. The take FOREVER to get there though
[11:48] <J_Man> actually, breezy didn't take long for me
[11:48] <phoghawk> The last time i ordered disks, it took two months for them to arrive
[11:48] <J_Man> I got my breezy disks saturday
[11:49] <djk_> daminap: redhat only has their enterprise edition, fedora core is based on redhat and their community project..
[11:49] <d-snp> phoghawk,  it's actually downloading at the speed of a snail
[11:49] <daminap> i no i ordered 30 of them like 3 weeks aogo and they still havent gotten here
[11:49] <d-snp> 0,01kbp/s
[11:49] <jatos> I am still waiting for my breezy disks
[11:49] <d-snp> bittorrent then, azureus not..
[11:49] <daminap> but its like win xp
[11:49] <oofnik> no ideas about gnomebaker?
[11:49] <jatos> how long do they take to arrive to the UK, anyone know?
[11:49] <oofnik> anybodyt
[11:49] <J_Man> I was surprised they got here as quickly as they did
[11:49] <daminap> where is the ubuntu hq located anyways
[11:49] <Slaggan> Does NE-one now a good and easy way to upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[11:49] <phoghawk> d-snp, are you bittorrent guy? lol. I lose track of everyone.
[11:49] <oofnik> phoghawk i'm going for another compile for wine, wish me luck..
[11:49] <cafuego> daminap: low priority sea mail, yeah. 6 weeks
[11:49] <LasseL> isle of man
[11:49] <d-snp> yeah I'm bittorrent/azureus guy and np :P
[11:50] <jatos> apt-get dist-upgrade followed by dpkg -reconfigure xorg
[11:50] <J_Man> Slaggan: sudo sed -i "s/hoary/breezy/g" /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:50] <ufk> which package has X?!?!
[11:50] <phoghawk> oofnik, Wine Schmine
[11:50] <daminap> im in New York State USA
[11:50] <phoghawk> oofnik, but luck anyways
[11:50] <J_Man> don't forget to change the sources.list :)
[11:50] <daminap> how long then
[11:50] <cafuego> daminap: The founder lives in London, but the cds get shipped from holland
[11:50] <J_Man> and apt-get update
[11:50] <polak> hi
[11:50] <oofnik> haha wine is good!
[11:50] <daminap> oh great...
[11:50] <Slaggan> tnx... I'll try that...
[11:50] <oofnik> terribly annoying but good
[11:50] <daminap> for free right???
[11:50] <cafuego> daminap: 4-6 weeks. yes, free.
[11:50] <me|ong> whats the command to see your system info
[11:50] <me|ong> like computer name etc.. and kernel version
[11:50] <daminap> 4-6 WEEKS!!
[11:50] <synapsis_> what is everyone here primarily using ubuntu for?  what type of 'home' stuff?
[11:50] <me|ong> is it not version?
[11:50] <J_Man> uname -a
[11:50] <polak> who can help me? ? ? ? i can't find any my files from hard drive in Ubuntu :/
[11:51] <oofnik> hey everyone check out this link, great news for ubuntu :) http://www.cbronline.com/article_news.asp?guid=99632EF5-C67F-4A53-A69B-FF8F21DE59D4
[11:51] <cafuego> daminap: If you want them afster, I'm sure you can pay for express delivery.
[11:51] <me|ong> nice
[11:51] <me|ong> and how do you edit the alias' in ubuntu?
[11:51] <phoghawk> synapsis_, desktop use. Music, Surfing, etc.
[11:51] <me|ong> i looooove alias :)
[11:51] <phoghawk> polak, have you tried to reboot?
[11:51] <daminap> no thanks
[11:51] <polak> yes
[11:51] <phoghawk> me|ong, should I be familiar with alias? what is it?
[11:52] <veloct> offnik: cool
[11:52] <daminap> i just wish ubuntu came with an installer ie installshield
[11:52] <synapsis_> phoghawk: whats a good mp3 player, and mp3 download client?  i've installed direct connect but i still have yet to 'get it'
[11:52] <polak> it doesn't work :/
[11:52] <d-snp> I think I got a good tut, I'ma try it :P
[11:52] <me|ong> heh
[11:52] <phoghawk> synapsis_, AMAROK
[11:52] <me|ong> aliases ar ejust shortcuts
[11:52] <me|ong> liek i can setup a commadn like blah to do an apget or soemthing
[11:52] <synapsis_> phoghawk: apt-get install amarok ?
[11:52] <kookanurranz67> may i ask a question please, anyone?
[11:52] <chrisx1> how do i mount my usb memory stick?
[11:52] <phoghawk> synapsis_, It's amazing to say the least. MP3 dl clients are BitTorrent (of course). There's also limewire and amule, but I prefer not to use those
[11:52] <me|ong> or if i type update it does apt-get update
[11:52] <phoghawk> synapsis_, yes
[11:53] <fdr> synapsis_ : I've used ubuntu for building a clustered fileserver
[11:53] <me|ong> its good shit
[11:53] <arcanistherogue> hey, how do you remove the splash screen on startup?  The one that replaces the full text boot, with a brown ubuntu logo and all of the things below it?  this is the last thing I don't like about 5.10, very pleased overall.
[11:53] <phoghawk> synapsis_, you might as well do "apt-get install amarok-engines" as well
[11:53] <jron_> can i add debian's ebuild sites to synaptic and expect most packages to work?
[11:53] <synapsis_> fdr: with that said would you recommend windows to someone who doesn't know how to 'use' a computer?
[11:53] <synapsis_> phog: ok 1 sec
[11:53] <thrush> chrisx1: it didnt automount? if u type mount in a terminal is it displayed?
[11:53] <phoghawk> arcanistherogue, there's a forum thread on this. i don't remember the solution though
[11:54] <me|ong> damnit
[11:54] <fdr> synapsis_ : no, because windows is too easy to break if you do the wrong thing.
[11:54] <arcanistherogue> phoghawk: k, ill search the forums
[11:54] <tyrael_tc> hello all
[11:54] <daminap> cafuego do you know how much of a pain in the ass it is to install something with linus its so much easier in windows Nextnextnext...
[11:54] <me|ong> finnaly got apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to work
[11:54] <arcanistherogue> phoghawk: thanks
[11:54] <me|ong> but i need dependancies
[11:54] <thrush> chrisx1: or lsusb command also
[11:54] <me|ong> is there a quick way to get it done?
[11:54] <phoghawk> arcanistherogue, np
[11:54] <synapsis_> phog: should it be sudo? because i'm getting permission denied.
[11:54] <synapsis_> fdr: how long have you been using linux based os?
[11:54] <veloct> jron: it's not recommended but you can try :)
[11:54] <phoghawk> me|ong, what dependencies do you need?
[11:54] <chrisx1> thrush, sec trying it
[11:54] <phoghawk> synapsis_, ya, use sudo if you need to
[11:55] <me|ong> alot :S
[11:55] <synapsis_> phoghawk: whats the difference in using sudo, i don't understand
[11:55] <tyrael_tc> does anyone know why after changing the Applications Icon at the top right of the top bar/ It doesnt change?
[11:55] <cafuego> daminap: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[11:55] <phoghawk> synapsis_, It makes you superuser (root) for one command
[11:55] <chrisx1> thrush, usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[11:55] <cafuego> daminap: or Applications -> Add Applications
[11:55] <daminap> whats that do cafuego?
[11:55] <phoghawk> synapsis_, more or less
[11:55] <cafuego> daminap: Why not try?
[11:55] <fdr> synapsis_ : using a little.. hmm... for some years. Serious and frequent use... since last spring.
[11:55] <me|ong> anything i need to add to the command to install the dependancies also?
[11:55] <daminap> i dont want to hack myown computer
[11:55] <phoghawk> synapsis_, I usually walk the line and use a root terminal. So I don't usually use sudo.
[11:55] <cafuego> daminap: What does running a normal administration app have to do with hacking?
[11:56] <LaLO> I have another problem with live cd --> ubuntu@dhcppc0:/$ sudo mount /dev/hdc5 /lalo mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hd5       missing codepage or other error       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try       dmesg | tail  or so
[11:56] <daminap> just tell mewhat it does cafuego
[11:56] <phoghawk> It's fun answering questions in here.
[11:56] <phoghawk> daminap, it's like a noob interface to synaptic
[11:56] <synapsis_> phoghawk: i still have no idea how to use ubuntu - how can i make it so i don't have to use subo ?
[11:56] <cafuego> daminap: Just run it and see. it won't break anything.
[11:57] <LaLO> what can i do ?
[11:57] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: why doenst the Applications Icon change. Even after setting it to something else
[11:57] <cratel1> i want to connect new hard dick inmy pc
[11:57] <daminap> im not as much of a noob as u think
[11:57] <thrush> chrisx1: not showing up when u type mount? /dev/whatever?
[11:57] <cratel1> so what should i do
[11:57] <daminap> i no how synaptic works
[11:57] <chrisx1> nope cant see it:S
[11:58] <LaLO> I have another problem with live cd --> ubuntu@dhcppc0:/$ sudo mount /dev/hdc5 /lalo
[11:58] <LaLO> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc5,
[11:58] <LaLO>        missing codepage or other error
[11:58] <LaLO>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[11:58] <LaLO>        dmesg | tail  or so
[11:58] <phoghawk> synapsis_, YOu can, but I don't know the exact command to do so. If you go to Applications>System TOols>Applications Menu Editor you can add "Root Terminal" to one of the lists
[11:58] <daminap> hey whats the name of the plugin for mov files like win32....?
[11:58] <synapsis_> phoghawk: i've installed both amarok and amarok-engines
[11:58] <martix> hey guys
[11:58] <chrisx1> thrush, /dev on /.dev type unknown (rw,bind)
[11:58] <martix> I go a question for you
[11:58] <cratel1> I connected SATA 150 card TX2 card wiht PCI slot
[11:58] <phoghawk> Tyrael_tc, I don't know what you mean
[11:58] <martix> Im using XFCE
[11:58] <synapsis_> phoghawk: ahh ok, i'll just stick to typing sudo then ;)
[11:58] <LaLO> how i can mount my old partition ???
[11:58] <martix> and I need to change my keyboard schema to spanish
[11:58] <phoghawk> synapsis_, now go to your applications menu, sound and video, then amarok
[11:58] <martix> how do I do that?
[11:58] <Spudchat> good call Seveas
[11:58] <cratel1> excuse me
[11:59] <phoghawk> martix, you can do that while reconfiguring XServer
[11:59] <cratel1> can any one help
[11:59] <phoghawk> cratel1, just ask and you may recieve an answer
[11:59] <martix> phoghawk: how can I reconfigure?
[11:59] <tyrael_tc> phonghawk: you know the little gnome foot in a normal Gnome install. Well I want to change the Little Ubuntu Icon that shows up at the top right. next to where it says Applications
[11:59] <martix> orinigally I installed with a US keyboard
[11:59] <daminap> whats the plugin for mov files?
[11:59] <cratel1> how can i connect new hard dick inmy pc
[11:59] <veloct> martix: or you can go System>Preferences>Keyboard
[11:59] <martix> now I want to use my spanish keyboard
[11:59] <phoghawk> martix, it's kind of an advanced process so do you think you can handle it before I give you the command?
[11:59] <LaLO> ubuntu@dhcppc0:/$ sudo mount /dev/hdc5 /lalo
[12:00] <LaLO> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc5,
[12:00] <LaLO>        missing codepage or other error
[12:00] <LaLO>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[12:00] <LaLO>        dmesg | tail  or so
[12:00] <martix> vi /etc/X/xorg.conf?
[12:00] <oofnik> check out this news report everyone, great news for ubuntu :) http://tinyurl.com/ata8x
[12:00] <LaLO> how i can mount my old partition ???
[12:00] <phoghawk> tyrael_tc, are you using Hoary?