| Riddell | any breezy users around? | 12:11 |
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| Riddell | 3.5 rc1 uploaded | 12:11 |
| Riddell | jeroenvrp: ping | 12:13 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: pong | 12:13 |
| jeroenvrp | yes great I saw that you we're busy | 12:14 |
| jeroenvrp | let's check | 12:14 |
| Riddell | jeroenvrp: if you could install 3.5 rc1 to test that would be great | 12:14 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: great, one thing missing though :-( | 12:14 |
| jeroenvrp | kdewebdev/ | 12:15 |
| jeroenvrp | ? | 12:15 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: Off course I will install it | 12:15 |
| jeroenvrp | and will let you know | 12:15 |
| jeroenvrp | but kdewebdev is missing? | 12:15 |
| Riddell | jeroenvrp: yeah, kdesdk is waiting on a subversion updates, blocks kdewebdev and kdevelop Im' afraid | 12:15 |
| jeroenvrp | ok, hopefully there we be no problem to have 3.4.3 of those available | 12:16 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: synaptic wants to remove some packages | 12:20 |
| jeroenvrp | like akode | 12:20 |
| jeroenvrp | kdeskd | 12:20 |
| jeroenvrp | ok I see, different names | 12:20 |
| jeroenvrp | let's do it :-) | 12:20 |
| Riddell | jeroenvrp: akode -> libakode2 | 12:24 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: yes I saw that, "different names" :-) | 12:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | sf.net is back to normal | 12:27 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: it complains about kmenu.png , that is in kicker, but also in kdelibs-data > the latter one wants to overwrite it | 12:41 |
| jeroenvrp | how do I set --force-rpm in Synaptic? | 12:41 |
| jeroenvrp | oeps I mean --force | 12:41 |
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| Riddell | jeroenvrp: can you paste the exact error? | 12:43 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: it is in dutch | 12:43 |
| Riddell | fine | 12:43 |
| jeroenvrp | but here it goes | 12:43 |
| jeroenvrp | E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5-rc1-0ubuntu0breezy1_all.deb: poging tot overschrijven van `/usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/22x22/apps/kmenu.png', wat ook in pakket kicker zit | 12:43 |
| jeroenvrp | in synaptic (popup) | 12:43 |
| Riddell | jeroenvrp: ok, I'll fix that, thanks | 12:46 |
| Riddell | dpkg --force-overwrite --install /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5-rc1-0ubuntu0breezy1_all.deb | 12:46 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: how can I continue | 12:46 |
| Riddell | should do it | 12:46 |
| jeroenvrp | ok, but I'm in synaptic right now | 12:46 |
| Riddell | do it on the command line | 12:46 |
| jeroenvrp | ok I try | 12:46 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: ok, no back to synaptic | 12:47 |
| jeroenvrp | installing | 12:52 |
| jeroenvrp | oeps | 12:52 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: another error | 12:52 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdepim-kresources_4%3a3.5-rc1-1ubuntu0breezy1_i386.deb: poging tot overschrijven van `/usr/share/services/kresources/kcal/blogging.desktop', wat ook in pakket libkcal2a zit | 12:52 |
| jeroenvrp | same kind of error | 12:52 |
| Riddell | hmm, thought I'd fixed that one | 12:53 |
| jeroenvrp | i will continue using dpkg | 12:53 |
| jeroenvrp | deps-problem | 12:54 |
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| jeroenvrp | Riddell: how forcing ignoring deps | 12:54 |
| Riddell | please tell me any problems here | 12:55 |
| jeroenvrp | with dpkg | 12:55 |
| Riddell | jeroenvrp: what's the deps problems? | 01:01 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: dpkg was complaining about missing deps | 01:01 |
| jeroenvrp | but I resolved it with apt-get -f install | 01:01 |
| jeroenvrp | synapric is now running again | 01:01 |
| Riddell | ok | 01:01 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: error again | 01:05 |
| jeroenvrp | 2 errors | 01:05 |
| jeroenvrp | E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kttsd_4%3a3.5-rc1-1ubuntu0breezy1_i386.deb: poging tot overschrijven van `/usr/lib/libKTTSD_Lib.so.0.0.1', wat ook in pakket ksayit zit | 01:06 |
| jeroenvrp | E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kmouth_4%3a3.5-rc1-1ubuntu0breezy1_i386.deb: conflicterende pakketten - kmouth wordt niet genstalleerd | 01:06 |
| Riddell | grr | 01:06 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: do you understand the errors | 01:06 |
| Riddell | what's the second one? | 01:06 |
| jeroenvrp | conflicting packages - kmouth will not be installed | 01:06 |
| allee | jeroenvrp: LC_ALL=en_US make ;) | 01:07 |
| jeroenvrp | allee: yeah yeah | 01:07 |
| allee | :) | 01:07 |
| jeroenvrp | almost ready | 01:07 |
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| jeroenvrp | Riddell: another problem | 01:12 |
| jeroenvrp | E: kdeedu-doc-html: subproces post-installation script gaf een foutwaarde 2 terug | 01:12 |
| jeroenvrp | E: kdepim-doc: subproces post-installation script gaf een foutwaarde 2 terug | 01:12 |
| jeroenvrp | this is during the configure process, somewhere on the end | 01:12 |
| jeroenvrp | trans.: subprocess post-installation script gave a error 2 back | 01:13 |
| jeroenvrp | but installation is complete | 01:13 |
| Riddell | grr, the old .dhelp problem | 01:14 |
| Riddell | thanks much jeroenvrp, I'll try and get those tidied up | 01:14 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: I don't thnink that last error was very trivial | 01:14 |
| jeroenvrp | I will package the dutch language pack now first and after that I kill the X-server and hopefully I will be back soon :-) | 01:15 |
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| jeroenvrp | Riddell: can't install nl-language | 01:33 |
| jeroenvrp | it is saying: no english docs found in /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common/ | 01:34 |
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| jeroenvrp | Riddell: I? back | 01:46 |
| jeroenvrp | 3.5 :-) | 01:46 |
| Riddell | woo | 01:47 |
| jeroenvrp | withouy the new dutch language-file | 01:51 |
| jeroenvrp | Riddell: thanks a lot | 01:51 |
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| LeeJunFan | I don't suppose anyone here has tried to compile the newest sim1.0 svn against qt4? Seems the qt4 dev in breezy univ is missing a file. | 04:49 |
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| freeflying | Is kde3.5rc1 ready for dapper now ? | 02:58 |
| jjesse | yesterday i asked the same question and you can use the breezy build on dapper | 03:04 |
| jjesse | which is what i'm using | 03:04 |
| jjesse | i just added the breezy source for kde3.5rc1 to my dapper sources | 03:05 |
| freeflying | jjesse: dose this work on dapper well? | 03:05 |
| jjesse | i upgraded from breezy to dapper then updated to kde3.5rc1 | 03:06 |
| freeflying | jjesse: works smoothly? | 03:07 |
| jjesse | the upgrade was a little slow, but it works fine | 03:07 |
| freeflying | dare not to do so | 03:10 |
| jjesse | freeflying: i've been using it since yesterday afternoon w/ no issues :) | 03:13 |
| freeflying | there maybe problems ? | 03:14 |
| freeflying | and warning message gives | 03:15 |
| jjesse | did you install riddell's key? | 03:16 |
| jjesse | afk helping out someone at work | 03:16 |
| jjesse | if you didn't install his key then it will give you warnings but you can still install | 03:16 |
| freeflying | jjesse: yeah , i import Riddell's key | 03:17 |
| jjesse | freeflying: did you get it installed? | 03:35 |
| freeflying | jjesse:have not yet | 03:35 |
| Tm_T | hmh | 03:53 |
| freeflying | jjesse: when I do aptitude upgrade ,many packages of kde3.5rc1 can not be upgrade | 03:58 |
| Riddell | freeflying: which ones? | 04:00 |
| freeflying | Reading extended state information | 04:01 |
| freeflying | Initializing package states... | 04:01 |
| freeflying | The following packages have been kept back: | 04:01 |
| freeflying | akregator ark arts artsbuilder gwenview imagemagick initramfs-tools | 04:01 |
| freeflying | kaddressbook kamera kappfinder karm kate kaudiocreator kcontrol kcron | 04:01 |
| freeflying | kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdebase-bin kdebase-kio-plugins | 04:01 |
| freeflying | kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs4-dev kdelibs4c2 | 04:01 |
| Tm_T | aerh, can't get Kopete compiled at all now | 04:01 |
| freeflying | kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins | 04:01 |
| freeflying | kdenetwork-filesharing kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdepasswd | 04:01 |
| freeflying | kdepim-kio-plugins kdepim-wizards kdeprint kdesktop kdm kfind kget | 04:01 |
| Tm_T | not iwth gcc 4 or 3.4 | 04:01 |
| freeflying | kghostview kgpg khelpcenter kicker klaptopdaemon kleopatra klipper kmail | 04:01 |
| freeflying | kmenuedit kmilo kmix knetworkconf knotes konqueror konqueror-nsplugins | 04:01 |
| freeflying | konsole kontact kooka kopete korganizer kpdf kpf kpilot kppp krfb kscd | 04:01 |
| freeflying | kscreensaver ksim ksmserver ksnapshot ksplash ksvg ksync ksysguard | 04:01 |
| freeflying | ksysguardd kuser kwalletmanager kweather kwifimanager kwin libarts1-dev | 04:02 |
| freeflying | libarts1-xine libarts1c2 libartsc0 libartsc0-dev libkcddb1 libkonq4 | 04:02 |
| freeflying | libkpimexchange1 libkpimidentities1 libkscan1 libksieve0 libktnef1 | 04:02 |
| Tm_T | flood :/ | 04:04 |
| freeflying | Riddell: have you got it ? | 04:04 |
| jjesse | hmm i don't remember if i had any issues like that, i just did a apt-update apt-get dist-upgrade | 04:04 |
| Tm_T | yu | 04:04 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: amd64? | 04:04 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: nope | 04:04 |
| Tm_T | I'm not that rich ;) | 04:05 |
| Riddell | hmm | 04:05 |
| Riddell | my amd64 was stupidly cheap | 04:05 |
| Tm_T | http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/430328 | 04:05 |
| Tm_T | heh | 04:05 |
| Tm_T | well, motherboard was the issue when I bought my pc | 04:05 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: everything else do compile just fine(?) | 04:07 |
| Riddell | I had no problems with kdenetwork, except on amd64 | 04:07 |
| Tm_T | hmm | 04:08 |
| Tm_T | well, I compiled Kopete just fine in Breezy :) | 04:09 |
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| Riddell | http://business.bostonherald.com/technologyNews/view.bg?articleid=112160&format=text | 05:58 |
| Riddell | installing "kubunto" | 05:58 |
| Tm_T | :/ | 05:59 |
| Tm_T | I don't understand why it's so hard to write correct | 06:00 |
| Tm_T | they are not real kubunteros, amigo | 06:00 |
| Riddell | he gets it right the second time | 06:00 |
| Tm_T | :p | 06:00 |
| Riddell | "pronounced kay-ubuntu" no it isn't | 06:00 |
| Riddell | maybe I should add that to the FAQ | 06:00 |
| Tm_T | yu | 06:01 |
| Tm_T | si si senr | 06:02 |
| === Tm_T really would like to compile Kopete | ||
| Tm_T | well, can't win every time | 06:03 |
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| Tm_T | no luck | 06:17 |
| Tm_T | irritating | 06:17 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: what you think, should I try to compile g++-4 etc myself and see if it helps? | 06:27 |
| Tm_T | hmm, or.. | 06:28 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: eek, no | 06:29 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: just wait a few days and it'll be in the archives? | 06:29 |
| Tm_T | ah, new g++ ? | 06:31 |
| Tm_T | tried to force older version (from breezy) but synaptic crashed :p | 06:32 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: ? | 06:34 |
| Riddell | well I'll upload it to the archives | 06:34 |
| Tm_T | g++ you mean, good | 06:34 |
| Riddell | kdenetwork | 06:36 |
| Tm_T | well, that doesn't help me | 06:37 |
| Tm_T | I'm compiling dev-0.12 branch | 06:37 |
| Tm_T | using, testing | 06:37 |
| Tm_T | ve | 06:37 |
| Tm_T | whops | 06:38 |
| Tm_T | hmh, downgrading and testing more | 06:42 |
| Tm_T | -> | 06:42 |
| Tm_T | bah, nocando | 06:44 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: well, I keep on trying,will bother you if can/can't manage to sort it out ;) | 06:52 |
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| jjesse | is gimp the default image editor for kubuntu or would that be krita? | 07:31 |
| Riddell | krita is | 07:32 |
| Riddell | although gimp is currently still better than krita for most uses | 07:32 |
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| Tonio_ | re | 08:13 |
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| Tm_T | Riddell: ah, forcing, cleaning, forcing, cleaning... ah, finally :) | 08:46 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: woo | 08:47 |
| Tm_T | I tried 3 times from scracth... | 08:47 |
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| Tm_T | maybe compiler was just having fun or something | 08:49 |
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| author-psi | Riddell: "[19:32] <Riddell> although gimp is currently still better than krita for most uses" yes thats right, but krita is allredy for "image manipulation". Gimp is for expert painting ;) | 08:51 |
| === author-psi loves his KolourPaint :D | ||
| Riddell | krita from koffice 1.5 will rock | 08:52 |
| === author-psi looks for his version | ||
| author-psi | mhm my version is 1.4.1 | 08:53 |
| author-psi | what kind of new features are in version 1.5 | 08:54 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: true | 08:54 |
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| author-psi | http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/koffice-features.html | 08:55 |
| author-psi | oh realy nice things for 1.5 krita | 08:55 |
| author-psi | i hope for the feature like gimp: you copy an image and click on "new -> new image" and then the image have the same propotions like the first | 08:56 |
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| Riddell | JRe, tvo: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29514 | 10:08 |
| Riddell | interesting katapult alternative | 10:08 |
| Riddell | uterly unusable but | 10:08 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: according to what I know it needs configuration | 10:09 |
| Tonio_ | the advantage of katapult is that "it just works" | 10:09 |
| Tonio_ | but there is a really anoying issue | 10:10 |
| Riddell | well you could take that out | 10:10 |
| Riddell | this thing needs the mouse as well as keyboard, and it doesn't have all the apps | 10:10 |
| Tonio_ | it is not possible to switch between different possibilities | 10:10 |
| Tonio_ | for example firefox has several bookmarks whose name start with firefox | 10:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | Riddell: hows project get-kdesktop-working-right going? | 10:12 |
| Tonio_ | when you want to launch firefox, you only get those annoying bookmarks.... switching with "tab" would be great ;) | 10:12 |
| Riddell | Diablo-D3: what's that? | 10:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | Riddell: its the one where you're supposed to get kdesktop working right ;) | 10:13 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: would you like a kommando package for universe at least ? I have a few time, I can make one ;) | 10:14 |
| tvo | Tonio_: if you're talking about katapult, this is already feature-requested (re: it is not possible to switch between different possibilities) | 10:14 |
| tvo | and will be implemented pretty soon I guess | 10:14 |
| Tonio_ | tvo: good news thanks ;) | 10:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | Riddell: kdesktop keeps saying it recieves signal 11 | 10:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | Riddell: and then refreshes all the icons | 10:15 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: sure | 10:15 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: let's go | 10:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | happens anytime you interact with it in any meaningful way (such as hover over an icon, or drag a window over icons) | 10:15 |
| Riddell | Diablo-D3: which kubuntu version, what KDE packages? | 10:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | Riddell: 3.5 rc1 from dapper | 10:15 |
| jjesse | Diablo-D3: i'm not seeing any crashes on breezy kde 3.5 rc1or on dapper kde 3.5 rc1 | 10:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not a crash | 10:16 |
| Riddell | Diablo-D3: probably need to rebuild arts at least without visibility | 10:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | I think kdesktop is just on crack | 10:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | Riddell: doesnt dapper's arts already do this? | 10:16 |
| Riddell | no | 10:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | .... | 10:20 |
| tvo | seriously, ctrl+alt+H is the worst choice for a shortcut key ever... | 10:28 |
| tvo | it (kommando) could be useful if it's changed so that it responds to mouse click instead of kb shortcut, | 10:33 |
| tvo | so you can just drag the mouse with button(s) pressed to the right entry | 10:33 |
| Riddell | every mouse click? that might get in the way | 10:38 |
| tvo | well, it should be an option imho, so you can change for example middle click to show kommando menu | 10:39 |
| tvo | (such a thing for windows was included with my mouse drivers) | 10:40 |
| Riddell | we should ask the guy to work on katapult | 10:41 |
| jjesse | i love katapult, so much easier then k menu -> run or naviagting through the k menu | 10:42 |
| tvo | something like a circular K menu could be pretty cool: you'd press mouse button on K, drag in certain direction, hold for a while, submenu pops up with center at mousepos, then you drag again etc.. | 10:44 |
| tvo | iirc I read once that circular menus could be navigated faster than rectangular | 10:45 |
| jjesse | tvo: i once had a mouse that had a programable button that activated a menu like that | 10:46 |
| tvo | jjesse: included with the (win) drivers I assume, just like my mouse? (mine without extra button tho..) | 10:49 |
| jjesse | tvo: yeah with the win driver it was a button that was where my thumb was, i loved it but the mouse got lost in a move | 10:50 |
| tvo | if I _had_ a 4th button such a circular menu feature would be a good candidate to be assigned to that button | 10:51 |
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| Verwilst | aaaah | 10:58 |
| Verwilst | back in kubuntu | 10:58 |
| Verwilst | with kde 3.5 rc1 | 10:58 |
| Verwilst | looks pretty damn sweet ;) | 10:58 |
| Verwilst | after some tweaking ofcourse ;) | 10:58 |
| Riddell | Verwilst: what tweaking? | 11:00 |
| === tvo goes, bye | ||
| Verwilst | gui stuffs | 11:10 |
| Verwilst | nuvola icons, other kdm theme, other background, konsole on taskbar, handles on taskbar invisible, plastik instead of lipstik, fontsize 9 | 11:11 |
| Verwilst | kde4ever as konqueror background | 11:11 |
| Verwilst | that's about it :d | 11:11 |
| Verwilst | i'm glad to see dejavu is standard now :d | 11:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | why? | 11:11 |
| Verwilst | cuz it's nice :p | 11:11 |
| Verwilst | it's like bitstream vera on steroids :p | 11:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | I still dont get why dejavu is prefered over bitstream vera | 11:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | I think its ugly | 11:12 |
| Verwilst | it looks the same, just has a lot more characters | 11:12 |
| Verwilst | unicode stuffs | 11:12 |
| Verwilst | dejavu is bitstream, but improved | 11:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | not enough room between the z and the y ;) | 11:12 |
| Verwilst | zy | 11:12 |
| Verwilst | :p | 11:13 |
| Verwilst | i can live with that :p | 11:13 |
| === Diablo-D3 was making a joke, at any rate. | ||
| Diablo-D3 | I wish the defaults were a bit bigger | 11:13 |
| Verwilst | :p | 11:13 |
| Diablo-D3 | 10 is pretty small. | 11:14 |
| Verwilst | 9 is perfect | 11:14 |
| Verwilst | 19", 1280x1024 | 11:14 |
| Verwilst | aaaaaaaaaaanyways, bed, see ya! | 11:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | not really. | 11:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | seeya | 11:14 |
| Verwilst | it is for me :p | 11:14 |
| Verwilst | bye! | 11:14 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: kommando uploaded | 11:19 |
| Tonio_ | to revu | 11:19 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: cool, poke me if I don't review it soon | 11:21 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: no pb, there is no emergency ;) | 11:21 |
| Riddell | did mateedit get packaged? | 11:22 |
| Tonio_ | dunno | 11:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | meatedit? what? | 11:23 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: apparently not | 11:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | Riddell: btw | 11:23 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: fancy doing that then? :) | 11:23 |
| Tonio_ | I'll search for a debian package, and if there's not, I may make one also | 11:23 |
| Tonio_ | let go ;) | 11:23 |
| Riddell | mez was going to, but I guess he never got round to it | 11:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | Riddell: the fact kdelibs and base dont build is why the source is in dapper but no packages, isnt it? | 11:23 |
| Riddell | Diablo-D3: they only don't build because kdelibs has the wrong build-dep on arts. I havn't fixed it because I'm waiting on the libstdc++ transition | 11:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | hehe | 11:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, thats pretty much it | 11:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | hacking control fixes that | 11:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | kdebase, however, dies on Xrender.h bullshit =/ | 11:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | copying Xrender.h to a better place fixes that ;) | 11:25 |
| === Tonio_ like .tar.bz2 sources, because dholbach can't check the md5sum hihi | ||
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