[12:03] <nalioth> brodel: type ~/.mozilla/plugins for an answer
[12:03] <djk_> brodel: do you even have mozilla installed?
[12:05] <djk_> the /home/blabla/.mozilla/plugins directory would be wrong i think..
[12:05] <nalioth> djk_: it is only 'wrong' if he doesnt have one
[12:05] <nalioth> all gecko based browser parse ~/.mozilla/plugins when they open
[12:05] <brodel> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
[12:05] <brodel> or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): ~./mozilla/plugins/
[12:05] <brodel> WARNING: /home/brodel/flashplayer7/install_flash_player_7_linux/~./mozilla/plugins/ is not a directory.
[12:05] <djk_> nalioth: actually the flashplayer detects opera/mozilla/netscape by itself IF they are installed
[12:05] <nalioth> they also parse /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins   but you need superuser priveleges to install there
[12:06] <nalioth> djk_: when i installed flash on my box, i had to tell it where to put the files
[12:06] <nalioth> djk_: this is not as nice as windows
[12:06] <JustinS> Mine is /home/justin/.mozilla/plugins .. in there there are my link to java, and my flashplayer.xpt  libflashplayer.so files ..
[12:06] <djk_> nalioth: it always detected them all for me, on any distro.
[12:07] <djk_> nalioth: even though i have an xp install, i don't do anything with it ;) can't even stand the welcome to windows screen
[12:08] <brodel> I don't know, windows is looking hella tempting for me now :(
[12:08] <nalioth> djk_: i havent owned a windows box since 2000
[12:08] <JustinS> brodel: It looks like you are giving it your directory where you have your flash installer too .. /home/brodel/flashplayer7/install_flash_player_7_linux/~./mozilla/plugins/ .. should read /home/brodel/.mozilla/plugins . 
[12:08] <nalioth> brodel: just follow our instructions, we're all saying the same thing
[12:08] <brodel> but I didn't.
[12:08] <djk_> nalioth: well, i get most windows crap for free ;)
[12:08] <brodel> look at what I typed.. then it came back saying the whole path.. but that's not what I typed in
[12:08] <djk_> nalioth: legally, of course..
[12:09] <nalioth> sexually transmitted diseases are free, too
[12:09] <nalioth> or whatever your username is
[12:09] <djk_> nalioth: i depend on it because of LoKon
[12:09] <JustinS> I'm using brodel because he keeps typing that .. 
[12:10] <Niomi> how can i set K menu to win key?
[12:10] <nalioth> Niomi: it should already be set to that
[12:10] <Niomi> it isn't for me.. maybe it's because i use this silly MS keyboard
[12:11] <JustinS> I've got silance on this box .. anyone know how to tell alsa which card touse?
[12:11] <Riddell> 3.5 rc1 uploaded
[12:11] <Riddell> anyone able to test?
[12:11] <nalioth> JustinS: i'm not real good with sound, however crim$un is a good sound guy
[12:12] <nalioth> Riddell: i have a question if you have time
[12:12] <JustinS> crimsun: you awake still?
[12:12] <JustinS> thanks nalioth ..
[12:12] <Riddell> nalioth: mm hmm?
[12:12] <Flying_Eagle> Riddell, i could test it tomorrow... but ill set up a testing partition...
[12:12] <brodel> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
[12:12] <brodel> or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): /home/brodel/.mozilla/plugins
[12:12] <brodel> WARNING: Please enter a valid installation path.
[12:13] <brodel> this is just getting annoying
[12:13] <nalioth> Riddell: my konquerer in breezy wont allow me to multiple select holding the ctrl key
[12:13] <nalioth> brodel: put a / on the end of plugins
[12:13] <crimsun> JustinS: yes, but I'm holding office hours atm
[12:13] <Flying_Eagle> or is there a version of kde 3.5 for hoary?
[12:14] <nalioth> brodel: a trailing / means directory, no trailing / means a file
[12:14] <nalioth> Flying_Eagle: there is not
[12:14] <Riddell> nalioth: works for me, what happens?
[12:14] <brodel> or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): /home/brodel/.mozilla/plugins/
[12:14] <brodel> WARNING: Please enter a valid installation path.
[12:14] <JustinS> crimsun: Over here it's 8:15am .. kinda office hours'ish ..
[12:14] <nalioth> i just installed yesterday, and when i select one thing, and hold the ctrl key to select the next thing, the first thing deselects
[12:15] <nalioth> brodel: now you are seeing why i avoid  flash
[12:15] <djk_> brodel: pick /usr/lib/mozilla then.
[12:15] <JustinS> brodel: type ls -a /home/brodel/ and see if .mozilla is even in there yet .. 
[12:15] <crimsun> JustinS: I tend to have fairly freeform office hours. It's not uncommon for students to contact me at 1 AM.
[12:15] <brodel> I know it's there 
[12:15] <brodel> brodel@nemesis-nix:~/.mozilla/plugins$ pwd
[12:15] <brodel> /home/brodel/.mozilla/plugins
[12:16] <Flying_Eagle> what about: apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla ?
[12:16] <JustinS> crimsun: ouch .. 1am I'm sacked .. but if they were to ask me how to change my sound device in/for alsa I would be at a loss .. 
[12:17] <crimsun> JustinS: depends, are you trying to use KDE's interface (with which I'm fairly clueless), or are you comfortable using commandline tools?
[12:17] <JustinS> crimsun: I'm pretty happy in cli .. (normally a Gentoo user) ..
[12:18] <crimsun> JustinS: then you can run the set-default-soundcard script (read the man page first)
[12:18] <crimsun> JustinS: you'll probably need to kill and restart arts afterward
[12:18] <JustinS> man set-default-soundcard then?
[12:18] <crimsun> yep
[12:19] <JustinS> not a lot in that man page .. /reading now/
[12:19] <crimsun> it's fairly straight-forward
[12:21] <JustinS> crimsun: where can I get the number of the sound card I wanna fire up? and what's Kubuntu use for restarting alsa? (I'm used to /etc/init.d/alsa restart ) ..
[12:22] <crimsun> JustinS: cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:22] <JustinS> whoah .. dmesg ain't so happy w/me .. 
[12:23] <JustinS> crimsun: thanks much .. it'd be sound card uno (1) ..
[12:23] <crimsun> you don't need to "restart alsa", just restart arts from the control panel
[12:28] <JustinS> bbiab .. breakfast time .. Thanks for your help crimsun .. much appriciated .. 
[12:37] <KaoticEvil> anyone ever tried to get a Argus pencam working on kubuntu?
[12:37] <`Nomad> Hello boys and girls..  Does anyone kno wwhen http://antesis.freecontrib.org is coming back online?
[12:38] <nalioth> `Nomad: in a few days, they are down for scheduled maintenance
[12:39] <LjL> `Nomad: what is it?
[12:39] <`Nomad> I'm waiting to get my libdvdcss2 fixed
[12:39] <`Nomad> it can wait a few days.
[12:41] <raphink> there's a secondary plf server `Nomad 
[12:41] <nalioth> !libdvdcss2
[12:41] <ubotu> from memory, libdvdcss2 is to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"
[12:41] <raphink> I'm using this one as a replacement lately : 
[12:41] <raphink> deb ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[12:41] <`Nomad> raphink:  oh?  can you give me the address?
[12:41] <raphink> deb-src ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[12:41] <`Nomad> thanks much!
[12:41] <raphink> sorry nalioth I know you don't like unofficial repos to be given ;)
[12:42] <nalioth> i gave a link for libdvdcss2
[12:42] <raphink> but since `Nomad already had the plf one it won't change much ;)
[12:42] <nalioth> ships with the system, it does 
[12:42] <raphink> lol
[12:43] <raphink> well speak yodo, you do
[12:43] <raphink> yoda
[12:43] <raphink> and so ... well ...
[12:44] <`Nomad> There, it,s going.. Yes!!  :)
[12:45] <nalioth> raphink: you did know the system ships with the above script for libdvdcss2, right?
[12:45] <raphink> sorry?
[12:46] <nalioth> raphink: read what ubotu posted about libdvdcss2
[12:47] <raphink> interesting
[12:47] <raphink> good to know
[12:48] <JustinS> Is mplayer available in apt (synaptic) for kubuntu? 
[12:48] <Hobbsee> !info mplayer
[12:48] <crimsun> (try mplayer-586)
[12:48] <crimsun> (or any variants)
[12:48] <JustinS> k thanks .. 
[12:48] <Hobbsee> !info mplayer-586
[12:48] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB
[12:48] <JustinS> I did a search for mplayer .. nothing came up ..
[12:48] <nalioth> JustinS: then adjust your repos, you need universe and multiverse
[12:49] <JustinS> nalioth: I think I've enabled them all .. (I've got no problems running bleeding edge stuff) ..
[12:49] <brodel> http://www.zinside.com/index.php?currency=USD&main_page=product_info&products_id=46&language=en
[12:49] <brodel> that's pretty cool hehe
[12:50] <`Nomad> ummm.. Speaking of mplayer-586, if I have an athlon processor, what kernel should I have?  I seem to have apt-get upgraded to k7 at some point, is that it?
[12:50] <`Nomad> !libdvdcss2
[12:50] <ubotu> rumour has it, libdvdcss2 is to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"
[12:50] <JustinS> Yeah they area all enabled and still no mplayer-586 found .. (refreshed even) ..
[12:50] <`Nomad> nalioth: I think my problems started when i installed libdvdcss from that script..
[12:51] <Hobbsee> JustinS: check that you have multiverse
[12:51] <nalioth> `Nomad: shouldnt have had a problem at all
[12:51] <JustinS> Hobbsee: I've got them all checked except the source repos ...
[12:52] <Hobbsee> JustinS: for some reason, the multiverse isnt on the original breezy source lists at all, so you have to manually add it, instead of just uncommenting it
[12:52] <`Nomad> nalioth: I migth have had a later version installed manually maybe?
[12:52] <JustinS> Hobbsee: K .. I'll head for google .. I think I saw a bunch of Ubu repos somewhere ..
[12:52] <Hobbsee> !repos
[12:53] <nalioth> `Nomad: those unofficial repos'll bite ya in the tender parts every time
[12:53] <nalioth> JustinS: enable the source repos, too
[12:53] <nalioth> not again
[12:53] <Hobbsee> Tell JustinS about repos
[12:53] <JustinS> Hobbsee: !repos .. what's that mean?
[12:53] <Hobbsee> bot command
[12:53] <nalioth> JustinS: there is an info bot here
[12:53] <Hobbsee> see your PM from ubotu
[12:53] <nalioth> who has been messin with ubotu now.. ..
[12:54] <Hobbsee> not me...
[12:54] <Hobbsee> how's he messed with?
[12:54] <brodel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89873 can anyone here help me with that?
[12:55] <JustinS> !repos
[12:55] <ubotu> JustinS: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:56] <nalioth> JustinS: try it again, i had his brain open in the shop
[12:56] <JustinS> !repos
[12:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[12:58] <JustinS> thanks nalioth ..
[12:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell JustinS about msg the bot
[12:59] <JustinS> ubotu: tell JustinS about msg the bot
[01:00] <nalioth> JustinS: ?
[01:00] <Hobbsee> !msgthebot
[01:00] <JustinS> !msgthebot
[01:00] <JustinS> He might be sleeping again .. 
[01:01] <Hobbsee> JustinS: are you registered?
[01:01] <Hobbsee> !register
[01:01] <ubotu> somebody said register was type /msg nickserv help register
[01:02] <JustinS> Hobbsee: I am .. got the message in priv .. didn't see it pop up .. 
[01:02] <nalioth> JustinS is registered
[01:02] <Hobbsee> cool
[01:02] <Hobbsee> Gaim even lets you use IRC - interesting
[01:03] <nalioth> yes, but it sucks
[01:03] <Hobbsee> now that's not nice, seeing as JustinS is using it
[01:03] <JustinS> Hobbsee: I've been using gaim with irc/etc for years .. 
[01:03] <Hobbsee> nalioth: well i would have yesterday, but not today
[01:03] <Hobbsee> when i was killing off my system
[01:04] <nalioth> JustinS: use gaim for IMs, and a real irc client for irc
[01:04] <Hobbsee> oh yes, i found that you can eventually use irssi, while still installing breezy
[01:04] <Hobbsee> :D
[01:04] <JustinS> nalioth: that = more stuff open on my monitors (monitors if I ever get xorg.conf configured again) ..
[01:05] <nalioth> JustinS: gaim takes up no space (or kopete) they sit in the panel and blink
[01:06] <JustinS> nalioth: naw, I'll keep it all in one do'dad .. gaim's been nice to me over the years .. I started with xchat, but never learned how to use it well .. never played with irssi ..
[01:09] <JustinS> I've got all items uncommented on my sources.list file .. even added: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 lst line to it .. 
[01:09] <JustinS> still no mplayer mplayer-586 .. 
[01:11] <Hobbsee> lol
[01:11] <nalioth> JustinS: if you have uni and multi and have updated your apt, and still dont see mplayer-anything you got problems
[01:11] <Hobbsee> JustinS: post your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[01:11] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[01:11] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:11] <JustinS> K .,., 
[01:14] <JustinS> the paste bin url = http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4543
[01:15] <Hobbsee> JustinS: yeah, no multiverse
[01:16] <Hobbsee> !repos
[01:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[01:16] <JustinS> !easysource
[01:16] <ubotu> easysource is, like, totally, For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:17] <Hobbsee> JustinS: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4546
[01:17] <JustinS> It's updating now ..
[01:17] <brodel> did anyone check out that link to the thread I wrote ? :\
[01:17] <Hobbsee> get rid of all your current stuff in your sources list, and replace it with that
[01:17] <Hobbsee> brodel: yes, sorry, no idea
[01:17] <brodel> oh ok
[01:18] <manjerico> hey guys.. :$ my apt-get doesnt found a thing :x
[01:18] <brodel> thanks for lookin :)
[01:18] <manjerico> i'm newb :)
[01:18] <JustinS> brodel: Yeah .. sourceforge had that a few days ago .. I already use FlashLinux on my usb stick but 3gig would be nicer .. 
[01:18] <brodel> oh yeah I posted two things  :x
[01:18] <Hobbsee> manjerico: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[01:18] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[01:18] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:20] <JustinS> Hobbsee: lol .. think I might go back to Gentoo .. I tried to toss mplayer-586 on here .. and .. mplayer-586: Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-20 but is not installable .. Let the dependency loop begin .. 
[01:21] <manjerico> Hobbsee done...
[01:22] <Hobbsee> manjerico: link?
[01:22] <manjerico> :$
[01:22] <manjerico> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4547
[01:22] <Hobbsee> k
[01:23] <Hobbsee> manjerico: replace all of what you have there, with this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[01:23] <Hobbsee> then apt-get update, apt get upgrade
[01:26] <manjerico> thankzzzz
[01:26] <manjerico> :D
[01:26] <Hobbsee> no problems
[01:27] <raphink> 'night
[01:28] <manjerico> and ... how do i access my windows partition ? >_< do you guys know any tutorial, so i can stop doin dumb questions? :x
[01:29] <chaoticgeek> crap
[01:29] <Hobbsee> manjerico: !mount
[01:29] <Hobbsee> !mount
[01:29] <ubotu> I guess mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[01:30] <Hobbsee> what's up chaoticgeek?
[01:30] <brodel> any idea why when I play a DVD in xine it studders a lot?
[01:30] <JustinS> manjerico: Mounting your windows should be pretty easy .. look in your /media directory for something like hda1 or close to that .. you may add it to your desktop with a simple right click and follow the menu down to add device .. (then use the tabs to choose the part of your fstab pertaining to that hd) ..
[01:30] <manjerico> !windowsdrives
[01:30] <ubotu> I heard windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:30] <Hobbsee> manjerico: have a look at those two wiki sites
[01:30] <Hobbsee> also...
[01:30] <Hobbsee> !faq
[01:30] <ubotu> faq is, like, The Ubuntu FAQ Guide is: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation or http://help.ubuntu.com
[01:30] <Hobbsee> and this one is my favorite...
[01:31] <manjerico> :o
[01:31] <Hobbsee> hey, where's it gone!
[01:31] <Hobbsee> still looking
[01:31] <Knowerrors> anyone here using wine cvs?
[01:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell brodel about dma
[01:32] <chaoticgeek> that 70's show is so funny
[01:32] <JustinS> whooo hooo .. mplayer's insalling .. (now what about that set-default-soundcard problem?
[01:33] <Hobbsee> cant find it
[01:35] <Knowerrors> wine: error while loading shared libraries: libwine.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:35] <Knowerrors> wine: error while loading shared libraries: libwine.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:35] <Knowerrors> I get that while installing wine
[01:35] <JustinS> Hobbsee: thanks for all your help with my repos .. I'm off to attempt a nap (at my age they are golden) ..
[01:36] <chaoticgeek> naps are great whenever
[01:37] <ubuntu> HOlas
[01:38] <brodel> thanks nalioth :)
[01:38] <brodel> worked like a charm
[01:38] <nalioth> brodel: i'm here to help
[02:05] <_fenix> how to add video thumbnails on konqueror?
[02:19] <dreamping> when i start my pc,i found some program run,for example, lvm raim,.....
[02:20] <dreamping> how can i top it ?
[02:21] <dreamping> stop it
[02:21] <nalioth> dreamping: lvm controls your Hard drives, if you stop it, you have no hard drives
[02:22] <dreamping> lvm? logical volume manage?
[02:22] <dreamping> my hard disk interface is IDE
[02:23] <nalioth> dreamping: IDE doesnt matter to lvm
[02:24] <dreamping> ok,does kubuntu manage harddisk using lvm?
[02:26] <roy> hey everyone I have ubuntu 5.10 but in synaptic kubuntu doesnt show up
[02:29] <nalioth> LjL: you here?
[02:29] <nalioth> roy: it's kubuntu-desktop
[02:30] <LjL> nalioth: yes
[02:31] <nalioth> LjL: come over into #kubuntu-offtopic please
[02:31] <LjL> i'm there too ;)
[02:31] <roy> i know
[02:31] <roy> kubuntu-desktop
[02:31] <nalioth> LjL: not #kubuntu-offtopic you're not
[02:31] <roy> but that doesnt show up
[02:32] <LjL> nalioth: oh yeps sorry, missed the k
[02:33] <roy> nalioth: I even tried apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, but that ends up in an error "E: Invalid operation kubuntu-desktop
[02:33] <roy> "
[02:33] <nalioth> roy: are you using the terminal or adept?
[02:34] <roy> im trying to install from gnoe
[02:34] <roy> gnome*
[02:34] <LjL> from the error, it looks like you forgot the "install"...
[02:34] <roy> so i dont think theres adept
[02:35] <roy> yup
[02:35] <roy> forgot install
[02:35] <roy> but then i get
[02:35] <roy> "E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[02:35] <roy> "
[02:36] <roy> and like i said it doesnt show up in synaptic either...
[02:36] <gttdi> try sudo apt-get update first
[02:36] <roy> still no
[02:38] <gttdi> does anything showup in synaptic?
[02:38] <chippie83>  /away sleepin'
[02:42] <roy> ya stuff show up
[02:42] <roy> but not kubuntu related
[02:42] <roy> nor kde related
[02:43] <bimberi> roy: put the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on a pastebin ...
[02:44] <bimberi> !pastebin
[02:44] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:47] <[Relic] > what is the easiest way to go from the last stable version to the newest stable version?  full new install?
[02:48] <nalioth> [Relic] : use apt-get to upgrade
[02:49] <troy> apt-get is easiest, backup/restore of home with full new install is the cleanest :)
[02:50] <roy> ok hold on a sec
[02:52] <roy> bimberi: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4550
[02:53] <[Relic] > don't have a DVD writer so backup of home isn't really a decent option
[02:53] <gttdi> i see the problem
[02:53] <gttdi> go to synaptic -> settings
[02:53] <gttdi> and check all the reps
[02:53] <gttdi> synaptic - settings - repositories
[02:54] <roy> ummm
[02:54] <roy> i did
[02:54] <roy> all i have is 
[02:54] <roy> the cd i guess
[02:54] <roy> basically theres only one
[02:54] <bimberi> roy: as per gttdi ... :)
[02:54] <roy> nvm i think i got wut u meant by check all of em
[02:55] <napalm22> guys help
[02:55] <napalm22> i just finished installing the first linux ever
[02:55] <bimberi> roy: click on the Settings button and check "Show disabled software sources"
[02:55] <napalm22> my first linux 
[02:56] <napalm22> and now i have no sound ..the driver doesn't support 
[02:56] <napalm22> so i got the emu10k
[02:56] <napalm22> i got soundblaster audigy 
[02:57] <napalm22> now i just cant install it ... 
[02:57] <gttdi> Relic how big is your home dir? mine is just 570 mb 
[02:57] <Rayeh> anyone here happen to use flock?
[02:57] <gttdi> you can burn that to a cd
[02:58] <roy> when I added all 3 from "Add menu" then I got a bunch of kde stuff but not kde-desktop on the list
[02:58] <Rayeh> I have a problem when running it on my [k] ubuntu machine where some dialogs appear to be ignored by kwin, and show up with transparent backgrounds
[02:58] <roy> wen i checked all of them from show disabled
[02:58] <roy> i got
[02:58] <roy> Could not download all repository indexes
[02:58] <roy> The repository might be no longer available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and the correct writing of the repository address in the preferences.
[02:58] <nalioth> roy: please quit pasting in here
[02:58] <napalm22> guys anyone aware of emu10k...and its installation 
[02:58] <nalioth> roy: see the /topic please
[02:59] <napalm22> ?
[02:59] <roy> pastebin for that small of a paragraph?...alright...
[03:00] <roy> nvm got it anyway
[03:00] <bimberi> napalm22: no, but there is this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[03:00] <roy> thx everyone
[03:00] <roy> bye...
[03:04] <gttdi> napalm22 i think audigy should work out of the box , with my sblive i have to uncheck optical raw in kmix before get any sound
[03:10] <napalm22> Error Kaffeine Player : There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[03:11] <Baka_toroi> Guys, can anybody please tell me how to update amarok through GUI? Adept doesn't update my 1.3.1
[03:12] <bimberi> napalm22: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:14] <gttdi> baka http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.5.php
[03:14] <Hobbsee> hey again all
[03:15] <Baka_toroi> gttdi: I should refrase it... why doesn't it update through adept or kynaptic?
[03:16] <gttdi> cause 1.3.1 is the most recent release in the repos i guess. not shure
[03:17] <Hobbsee> Baka_toroi: no backports as yet
[03:17] <Hobbsee> it got released after breezy release
[03:17] <nalioth> Baka_toroi: because it's not in the repos yet
[03:18] <Baka_toroi> Since i'm a newb in the Linux world... how long does it usually take to get into the repos?
[03:18] <Hobbsee> !backports
[03:18] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports.
[03:18] <Hobbsee> we have backports???
[03:19] <Baka_toroi> that wiki doesn't exist
[03:19] <Hobbsee> right
[03:20] <nalioth> Baka_toroi: once they get a good handle on dapper developement, things will start goin into 'backports'
[03:20] <nalioth> Hobbsee: not yet
[03:20] <Hobbsee> nalioth: want to check that?  looks like there are files there
[03:20] <Hobbsee> cant right this second - on windows xp
[03:22] <stupendo44> what would be a good program to open .sit files with on kubuntu?
[03:22] <Baka_toroi> nalioth: thanx!
[03:23] <nalioth> Hobbsee: no files yet
[03:29] <Baka_toroi> OK, another question: is there a way to make 2 sound players work at the same time? Like, amarok and system sound. It's annoying not to hear when someone IMs me while listening to music.
[03:40] <pinkfloyd> hello , which is the repositories page of kubuntu??
[03:40] <Hobbsee> !repos
[03:40] <ubotu> somebody said repos was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[03:40] <pinkfloyd> thank you
[03:40] <Hobbsee> no problems :)
[04:00] <roy> hey i finally got kubuntu running
[04:00] <chaoticgeek> yay
[04:00] <roy> now since I had ubuntu and installed kubuntu through synaptic
[04:00] <roy> when I turn on my computer
[04:00] <roy> it shows the brown and ugly looking ubuntu loading screen thing
[04:01] <roy> although it ends up in kde window displayer just how i like....
[04:01] <roy> how can I make the loader screen be kubuntu too
[04:01] <Update> could some one sende me a ubuntu cd ?
[04:01] <Update> i meankubuntu
[04:08] <Lathiat> royuss: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[04:08] <Lathiat> royuss: should get you the kubuntu splash
[04:14] <kingsley_> help!!!
[04:14] <kingsley_> i need to re-install grub from a live cd
[04:15] <Hobbsee_away> !reinstallgrub
[04:15] <ubotu> methinks reinstallgrub is to reinstall GRUB, follow the guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76652
[04:15] <LeeJunFan> define irony - KDE allows you to setup auto login which could give someone run of your system, BUT will not allow you to setup a wallet with passwordless login.
[04:15] <kingsley_> grub got screwed up when i swithed harddrive
[04:15] <kingsley_> thanks
[04:15] <Hobbsee_away> no problems
[04:16] <LeeJunFan> I stand corrected. You can now enter an empty password, couldn't do that last time I tried some time ago.
[04:17] <kingsley_> ok i'm alreadying using lilo
[04:17] <kingsley_> now
[04:18] <oddie> can i just say ubuntu/kubuntu has opened the linux world to me.... I have tried for years to learn and now it all makes sense with the easy workings of kubuntu
[04:18] <kingsley_> easy?
[04:19] <kingsley_> well it is ;-D
[04:19] <oddie> i think the best point about it is the comunity is willing to help everyone
[04:19] <kingsley_> but it does confuse how the kernel actually operates 
[04:19] <kingsley_> kubuntu really need to have a better advance menu though
[04:19] <oddie> but u ask a question and you always get an answer and its not 'RTFM'
[04:20] <kingsley_> well you can in a few other channels
[04:20] <kingsley_> and i did get a RTFM
[04:20] <kingsley_> the RTFM was provided with the link given above
[04:20] <kingsley_> ;-p
[04:20] <oddie> lol
[04:22] <kingsley_> so how long have you been using linux?
[04:22] <kingsley_> ahh i mean kubuntu
[04:22] <kingsley_> what did you use before
[04:23] <oddie> well on and off for about 4years..
[04:23] <oddie> mandrake....
[04:23] <oddie> seems like it shoudl be user friendly but when you start to install drivers and what not theres not alot of support when you hit an error
[04:24] <oddie> so figuring it out was hard, sure you learn alot but I have never been able to completely come across to linux untill now
[04:25] <kingsley_> kk
[04:26] <oddie> i would like to contribut but there is little i can offer....bumma
[04:26] <oddie> im learning c++
[04:26] <kingsley_> thast good
[04:26] <kingsley_> how old are you
[04:26] <kingsley_> kk my compie if booting...with lilo...
[04:26] <oddie> 24
[04:26] <kingsley_> lets see lets see
[04:26] <kingsley_> is*
[04:27] <pinkfloyd> how can add programs to menu k of kde? like firefox 
[04:27] <kingsley_> FUCK ITS NOT WORKING
[04:27] <kingsley_> ok
[04:27] <kingsley_> #@!$!@#$@!#$@!#$@!#$!@#$!@#$!@#$!@#$!@#$!@#$@!#$@!#$!@#$
[04:29] <crimson>  how can add programs to menu K of kde? like firefox
[04:30] <kingsley> i dunno
[04:30] <sampan> crimson, right-click the kmenu button, then select "menu editor" and add or delete things as you like
[04:31] <crimson> ok thanks
[04:32] <sampan> sure, np
[04:32] <nalioth> kingsley: please be civil
[04:35] <kingsley> find
[04:35] <kingsley> fine*
[04:45] <Sonny_Wertzik> hello!
[04:46] <Sonny_Wertzik> is anyone out there using xcompmgr --the new version 1.40?
[04:48] <Sonny_Wertzik> i have version 1.39 installed and im wondering if 1.40 has any substantial fixes?
[04:50] <guest> bimberi i followed your links
[04:50] <guest> thank you so 
[04:50] <guest> but now i cant get to install the w32codecs... 
[04:51] <guest> i tried everything what was said 
[04:51] <guest> somebody could help
[04:51] <guest> ?
[04:52] <bimberi> guest: are you using breezy?
[04:52] <guest> i think so
[04:53] <bimberi> ubotu tell guest about w32codecs
[04:53] <guest> first i tried installing realplayer but i couldn't ..i know i suck :] 
[04:54] <bimberi> guest: any error?
[04:54] <LeeJunFan> heh, nah.
[04:54] <guest> binary wouldnt open
[04:54] <LeeJunFan> guest: are you running 64bit?
[04:55] <guest> i think its32
[04:55] <LeeJunFan> and what did you do to install the codecs?
[04:56] <guest> cd ~/Desktop
[04:56] <guest> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[04:58] <LeeJunFan> okay, first of all forgive me if this has all been gone over already earlier - I was taking apart my washer and dryer. :)   install went ok w/o errors? And then you try to play what type of file by doing what?
[04:59] <guest> LeeJunFan: i will try with the breezy codecs
[04:59] <guest> probably it's because of it
[05:00] <guest> thank you bimberi
[05:00] <LeeJunFan> could be, but shouldn't be. Unless the deb you got put them in the wrong dir.
[05:00] <LeeJunFan> guest: they are binary only anyway, so it really shouldn't even matter what distro they were meant for other than the deb may have put them somewhere your player isn't looking.
[05:01] <LeeJunFan> guest: personally the way I do it is to grab the codecs tar from the mplayer site, untar them and put them in /usr/lib/win32
[05:01] <bimberi> guest: np, and you can't suck if you're using (k)ubuntu :)
[05:02] <guest> :] 
[05:02] <nalioth> LeeJunFan doesnt read very well
[05:03] <LeeJunFan> nalioth: why's that?
[05:04] <nalioth> LeeJunFan: have you read the mplayer site?
[05:04] <LeeJunFan> nalioth: not in a while.
[05:04] <guest> LeeJunFan what's the mplayer site ?
[05:04] <nalioth> LeeJunFan: are you familiar with the linux file tree?
[05:04] <nalioth> www.mplayerhq.hu
[05:05] <LeeJunFan> nalioth: I assume you are talking about the new location to put the codecs?
[05:05] <nalioth> new location?
[05:05] <LeeJunFan> nalioth: okay I give, wth are you talking about? :)
[05:05] <chaoticgeek> its something like /usr/local/lib/codecs or /usr/local/codecs
[05:05] <chaoticgeek> I think the 2nd one is correct
[05:06] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: right, that's it.
[05:06] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: last time I tried that mplayer didn't find them though :)hehe
[05:06] <nalioth> LeeJunFan: you as a user are never supposed to put anything into the system space, always use /usr/local/
[05:06] <nalioth> LeeJunFan: the mplayer site says to decant the codecs into /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[05:07] <nalioth> putting things into trees other than /usr/local/ is not a good idea
[05:08] <LeeJunFan> nalioth: yeah, last time I tried that they couldnt' be found. But oddly enough it finds them if I dump them in /usr/lib/win32, I probably had a bung version or something. But I was more interested in having it working :)
[05:08] <guest> LeeJunFan i have no win32 directory in the usr/lib/
[05:09] <nalioth> guest: scroll up, please
[05:09] <LeeJunFan> guest: - no, put them in /usr/local/lib/codecs
[05:09] <guest> i will place them in local also ;)
[05:10] <LeeJunFan> heh, and wouldn't you know it - now I can't get video out of a wmv.
[05:11] <LeeJunFan> nevermind, that's just kaffeine, mplayer works.
[05:11] <nalioth> LeeJunFan: you know the newer microcrap codecs wont play well -if at all- right?
[05:12] <LeeJunFan> nalioth: oddly enough I link /usr/local/lib/codecs back to /usr/lib/win32 and kaffeine can play that wmv now :)
[05:12] <guest> am i just droping them ver /lib or create Codec folder 
[05:12] <nalioth> i hate windows
[05:13] <nalioth> guest: /usr/local/lib/codecs may have to be made
[05:13] <LeeJunFan> guest: yeah mkdir /usr/local/lib/codecs
[05:14] <nalioth> guest: you may get an error, due to /usr/local/lib/ not being present, so you may have to make that first
[05:14] <guest> Access denied to /usr/local/lib/./Codecs.
[05:14] <nalioth> guest: you in a terminal?
[05:14] <LeeJunFan> guest: sudo mkdir /usr/local/lib/codecs
[05:15] <LeeJunFan> I wonder if xine isn't looking in the right dir, since that's the engine I'm using in kaff.
[05:16] <LeeJunFan> xine's options - apparently default options are to load from /usr/lib/win32.
[05:20] <nalioth> LeeJunFan: not my machine, i'm just pointing out reasons why we do things
[05:20] <LeeJunFan> nalioth: actually you didn't say why, you just said dont. :)
[05:20] <dreamping> /srv,/debootstrap,/opt,/sys, what are these directory usage?
[05:21] <nalioth> LeeJunFan: installing self compiled things into system space can lead to an unstable system
[05:21] <nalioth> LeeJunFan: anything outside of /usr/local/ is "system space"
[05:22] <LeeJunFan> bah, only if there's a conflict...
[05:24] <nalioth> LeeJunFan: if there is a conflict, it's desirable to have your hand rolled things in a different space then system things
[05:24] <LeeJunFan> I understand but then I'm smart enough to not to that with something that's going to have something else depend on it.
[05:24] <LeeJunFan> nalioth: I agree, and I always do except that they didn't work in the other dir, now I know why and they are moved.
[05:25] <LeeJunFan> of course since moving to kubuntu I don't know of anything I compile myself anymore except sim from CVS. hehe
[05:25] <neurondev> While trying to install realplayer binary I got an error: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:25] <neurondev> What can I do?
[05:26] <LeeJunFan> nalioth: oh, and a few drivers for some odd hardware and my own kernels.
[05:27] <dreamping> can i del the link vmlinuz and cdrom under the root dirin debian,there are not these links.
[05:28] <LeeJunFan> dreamping: why? who ever looks at their / dir anyway? :)
[05:28] <LeeJunFan> dreamping: taking up no more space than a single inode.
[05:28] <chaoticgeek> ok I use chmod to change permissions for a partion so I can wrote to it
[05:29] <nalioth> dreamping: not a good idea
[05:30] <dreamping> /srv,/debootstrap,/opt     but  what are the usage of these dir?
[05:30] <dreamping> debian has not there dir,
[05:31] <LeeJunFan> dreamping: debian doesn't have 2.6.12 kernel either but I wouldn't go deleting that :) hehe
[05:31] <guest> thank you guys i think of finishing all that tomorrow
[05:31] <chaoticgeek> why cant I change the permissions of a partion so I an write to it as regular user me
[05:31] <guest> im falling asleep on my keyboard
[05:32] <chaoticgeek> I tried chmod but it did not change the permissions 
[05:32] <LeeJunFan> dreamping: I really don't know why those links are there but I have to assume they are there for a reason, and what harm do they cause?
[05:32] <Hobbsee> chaoticgeek: should you be using chown for that?
[05:32] <chaoticgeek> thanks
[05:33] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: that will only work if it's a permissions based filesystem like ext, reiser, etc...
[05:33] <chaoticgeek> crap
[05:33] <jsubl2> perms for a partition must be changed in /etc/fstab
[05:33] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: if it's a windows fat32 you need to mount with a umask.
[05:33] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: is this a one time thing or something you will be using over and over?
[05:34] <dreamping> LeeJunFan, just i feel some mess:)
[05:35] <chaoticgeek> yes
[05:35] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: open a terminal and type 'man fstab'
[05:35] <nalioth> Hobbsee: no he should not
[05:35] <Hobbsee> nalioth: right
[05:36] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: that wasn't really a yes/no question ;)
[05:36] <chaoticgeek> using it over and over
[05:36] <chaoticgeek> lol
[05:36] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: if you havent blowed up your permissions and figured it out by tomorrow, i can help you then
[05:36] <chaoticgeek> I cant read right
[05:36] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: okay, then you do want to put it in fstab. Do other people use your computer? and if so do they need access to this drive?
[05:37] <chaoticgeek> Ok I'm getting confused w/ two people talking at the same time
[05:37] <chaoticgeek> only I use the computer and I need acess
[05:37] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: you should be pleased folks want to help you
[05:37] <chaoticgeek> access*
[05:37] <chaoticgeek> yes but its confusing trying to take each person at the same time
[05:37] <LeeJunFan> okay, in fstab you'll want to put something like this:
[05:37] <neurondev> What do I do when I get this error: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:38] <LeeJunFan>  //dev/hda1       /media/hda1     vfat    defaults,uid=[your username]         0       0
[05:39] <chaoticgeek> ok well its already in fstab so I can just change it
[05:39] <LeeJunFan> one slash in front : /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     vfat    defaults,uid=[your username]         0       0
[05:39] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: lets see that line from your fstab.
[05:39] <chaoticgeek> the only thing thats not the same is the uid={nugget}
[05:39] <chaoticgeek> here it is/dev/hda2       /datadrop       vfat    defaults        0       0
[05:40] <chaoticgeek> so just add the uid=[nugget] 
[05:40] <LeeJunFan> okay, if you add the uid=nugget that will make you the owner when you mount it.
[05:40] <LeeJunFan> that should do it.
[05:40] <chaoticgeek> ok
[05:40] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: of course 'mount -o remount /dev/hda2' after
[05:41] <chaoticgeek> thanks
[05:41] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: np, now if you do 'ls -ld /datadrop' you should see that the dir is owned by nugget.
[05:42] <chaoticgeek> still says root owns it and I cant save anything to it
[05:43] <chaoticgeek> /dev/hda2       /datadrop       vfat    defaults,uid=[nugget]         0       0
[05:43] <chaoticgeek> this is what that line looks like now: 
[05:43] <chaoticgeek> and I did the mount -o remount /dev/hda2
[05:43] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: sry - no [] 's
[05:43] <chaoticgeek> oh
[05:43] <LeeJunFan> just uid=nugget
[05:44] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: then remount it again.
[05:46] <chaoticgeek> still wont let me save anything and still says root owns it
[05:46] <chaoticgeek> This is the new line:/dev/hda2       /datadrop       vfat    defaults,uid=nugget        0       0
[05:48] <chaoticgeek> and then I went sudo <mount -o remount /dev/hda2> then <ls -ld /datadrop> and I got <drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 65536 1970-01-01 00:00 /datadrop>
[05:48] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: argh, I think defaults is messing with it, change defaults to user
[05:49] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: I was thinking that fstab was processed so that anything specified after word defaults would override the defaults settings, apparently not.
[05:50] <chaoticgeek> ok I replaced default w/ user, and got the same thing
[05:50] <chaoticgeek> then I removed user to leave uid=nugget and got the same thing still
[05:51] <LeeJunFan> type 'mount | grep hda2'
[05:51] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: and lets see what that says for options.
[05:51] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: it's like it's ignoring your fstab options.
[05:51] <chaoticgeek> this is what I get /dev/hda2 on /datadrop type vfat (rw,uid=1000)
[05:52] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: and if you type 'id nugget' what is your id
[05:52] <chaoticgeek> my uid is 1000
[05:52] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: then that's right.
[05:52] <chaoticgeek> yep
[05:52] <LeeJunFan> if you ls -ld /datadrop now?
[05:52] <chaoticgeek> drwxr-xr-x  6 root root 65536 1970-01-01 00:00 /datadrop
[05:53] <dreamping> when my box boot,i find that lvm adn raid is running,but i dont need these,how to stop it?
[05:54] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: I wonder if remount isn't working right, try actually unmounting it with umount /dev/hda2 && mount /dev/hda2
[05:54] <dreamping> there are no links in the dir /etc/rc2.d/ about "lvm raid " etc.
[05:54] <chaoticgeek> ok
[05:54] <LeeJunFan> dreamping: I think it's in rcS
[05:55] <chaoticgeek> I think it worked I get this now: drwxr-xr-x  6 nugget root 65536 1970-01-01 00:00 /datadrop
[05:55] <chaoticgeek> yep
[05:55] <chaoticgeek> thanks alot
[05:55] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: it's the simple stuff that isn't simple. hehe
[05:55] <chaoticgeek> ya very simple
[05:55] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: no prob, damn -o remount was throwing me off. hehe
[05:56] <dreamping> LeeJunFan: yes thx, can i stop the lvm and raid?
[05:56] <LeeJunFan> dreamping: I don't see why not if you aren't using lvm-raid
[05:57] <dreamping> my harddisk' interface is IDE,and i just use the ext3 filesystem
[05:57] <LeeJunFan> well, I gotta run and finish fixing my wash machine. later...
[05:57] <dreamping> i want to make my boot-time be short
[05:58] <LeeJunFan> dreamping: I can't imagine it would do anything, but I haven't disabled it on mine. too lazy, and I have a fast machine...
[05:58] <chaoticgeek> next time I have a problem like that I'll know hwo to do it
[05:59] <LeeJunFan> dreamping: yeah, lvm CAN work on a plain old non-raid ide drive. It just allows for dynamic resizing of partitions, so if you formatted your drive with LVM you could shrink root and grow /home while the machine is running.
[05:59] <LeeJunFan> anyway, I'm out for a bit.
[06:02] <dreamping> #LeeJunFan,:D,ah,yes,i see,but i have not used the lvm during my kubuntu installation
[06:03] <dreamping> now,so it is no useage for me.
[06:26] <micahf> anyone else having problems where they can't modprobe nvidia?
[06:42] <pinkfloyd> hi, i have this problem ---libgtk-1.2.so.0 where to??
[06:44] <crimson> hi, i have this problem ---libgtk-1.2.so.0 while trying to install Wollfenstein ET
[06:51] <crimson> no one?
[06:52] <crimsun> DD"no one" what?
[06:52] <crimsun> err, wtheck
[06:54] <crimson>  have this problem ---libgtk-1.2.so.0 while trying to install Wollfenstein ET
[07:03] <Zol> heyy
[07:03] <Zol> how do you install kubuntu through windows?
[07:03] <Zol> i just got a install CD from the net
[07:03] <Zol> but it's all in linux formats
[07:03] <Zol> with no extensions and stuff
[07:07] <Zol> hey
[07:08] <Zol> can you help me to install kubuntu?
[07:08] <godzero> the new 3.5rc1 packages totally killed kde
[07:10] <godzero> Zol: kubuntu iso or kubuntu-desktop?
[07:20] <LeeJunFan> godzero: killed?
[07:21] <godzero> I get the kdm login screen, but when I enter my password & ENTER, kde _or_  gnome dies.. like a ctrl-alt-bkspace
[07:22] <The_Vox> godzero: I just finished installing the updates to rc1 and it works very well....what did you update from?
[07:22] <godzero> beta 2
[07:22] <The_Vox> Zol: burn the .iso to a CD and then put the burned CD in your drive, reboot and tell your computer to boot from the CD
[07:22] <The_Vox> godzero: that's what I did too
[07:23] <The_Vox> godzero: did you have any errors?
[07:23] <LeeJunFan> godzero: did you get any errors during install?
[07:23] <LeeJunFan> hehe
[07:23] <godzero> no-silent deth
[07:23] <The_Vox> GMTA :)
[07:23] <godzero> apt-get upgrade had a ton of probs
[07:23] <The_Vox> godzero: log in on a console and do an "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and see if it does anything
[07:23] <The_Vox> godzero: ah, there's your problem
[07:24] <godzero> oh, I did... up to date now
[07:24] <The_Vox> I bet you have libdjvue15 installed
[07:24] <LeeJunFan> godzero: ah, I went from stable to rc1, I had 1 lib I had to dpkg -i by hand, then run apt-get upgrade again to finish, then all was well.
[07:24] <godzero> me too, actually 2 or 3 of them
[07:25] <The_Vox> godzero: did your apt-get upgrade finish without errors? I mean...are all packages actually installed?
[07:25] <godzero> eventually, yes
[07:25] <godzero> after I got out a hammer
[07:25] <The_Vox> godzero: take a look at ~/.xsessionerrors
[07:25] <LeeJunFan> apt-get hammer-upgrade
[07:25] <The_Vox> sorry, ~/.xsession-errors
[07:26] <The_Vox> it may tell you why kde isn't working
[07:26] <LeeJunFan> might want to look at /var/log/kdm too if it didn't actually get "past" the login part before it segs.
[07:26] <Zol> The_Vox: it's not a live CD
[07:26] <Zol> i want linux to stay
[07:26] <godzero> I'm on kubuntu right now, but I hadda logon to console, rum gdm as root....
[07:27] <The_Vox> Zol: the installer runs when you boot from the CD
[07:28] <Zol> oh
[07:29] <The_Vox> ok, I'm gone
[07:31] <godzero> xsession-errors is too full to of gunk
[07:31] <jason> is this the place to ask newbie linux questions?
[07:31] <fyrmedic> yes
[07:32] <jason> ok, well i have some external harddrives formatted in NTFS
[07:32] <jason> i know there is a project for linux being able to read NTFS but it requires me to build the program
[07:33] <fyrmedic> ok
[07:33] <jason> are there compilers with kubuntu?
[07:33] <fyrmedic> sorry I can't answer that one
[07:33] <jason> oh
[07:34] <jason> do you know where i could find that out?
[07:35] <godzero> LeeJunFan: kdm.log has lines like: QImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image
[07:35] <fyrmedic> no sorry
[07:35] <godzero> jason : yes
[07:35] <godzero> gcc
[07:36] <jason> but in order to install gcc, i need a basic C compiler or something haha
[07:36] <LeeJunFan> godzero: wow, you really got hosed by that.
[07:36] <godzero> I can't remember if it's installed by default
[07:37] <godzero> jason: no, just sudo apt-get gcc
[07:37] <godzero> or there abouts
[07:37] <godzero> jason: no, just sudo apt-get install gcc
[07:39] <fyrmedic> wildfire
[07:40] <godzero> I'm gunna try reinstalling some core kde stuff like kdm
[07:41] <fyrmedic> anyone know anything about getting PGP to work in kmail?
[07:50] <jason> godzero: do you know how to open files on an NTFS drive?
[08:26] <JustinS> crimsun: you still up professor?
[08:27] <crimsun> JustinS: unfortunately.
[08:30] <JustinS> Shweeew .. Me too, but it's only 4:30pm here .. I've still got zero sound, and set-default-soundcard 1 .. but when I run alsamixer it's still showing the onboard sound (that's disabled in the bios now) . help?
[08:32] <JustinS> Sorry got a glitch ..
[08:32] <crimsun> JustinS: then force it to a certain order.
[08:33] <crimsun> JustinS: cat /proc/asound/cards
[08:33] <JustinS> K .. it's got my onboard indel card as 0 and my SB Live card as 1 .. 
[08:34] <crimsun> and you wish to use your sblive as default?
[08:34] <crimsun> cat /proc/asound/modules
[08:34] <crimsun> (it's probably snd-intel8x0)
[08:34] <JustinS> 1 snd_emu10k1 .. (0 is snd_intel8x0) .. 
[08:34] <crimsun> echo "options snd-intel8x0 index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[08:35] <crimsun> then run set-default-soundcard 0
[08:35] <Digioso> hallo
[08:35] <crimsun> then sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload, then log out of KDE and back in
[08:36] <JustinS> K .. think it took .. brb .. I'll ask about that echo part in a second .. 
[08:39] <JustinS> rodger .. thanks MUCH crimsun .. Audio Slave is goin' strong now .. Dunno bout what'll happen on reboot, but right now I've got noise! .. woohoo ..
[08:43] <JustinS> jpilot .. friend or foe?
[08:50] <aftertaf> kpilot, friend.....
[08:51] <aftertaf> but cant edit appointments in it... :/
[08:51] <JustinS> I've had issues with getting any of them to work (sony clie) .. once about a year ago I got it fired up .. I would like some updates for Static (grumpy chicken) ..
[08:59] <andreas_> anyone know how to getfont smoothing in aterm?
[08:59] <andreas_> get font*
[09:31] <_martin> hi ... i installed the macromedia flash plugin, but for some reason, i do not have fonts in flash ... I know this has something to do with some gs font packages, but I cannot find which packages to install. has anyone a hint for me?
[09:32] <viviersf> as far as i know flash are just images
[09:32] <viviersf> i dont think it has anything to do with fonts
[09:33] <viviersf> close firefox after installing the plugin
[09:33] <viviersf> and reopen it and check if it works
[09:37] <eliezer> hi people. i have sort of a dumb question for you, but i just can't figure it out. and i guess that the answer it's so simple that i haven't found anything related to my trouble on google. heres the situation: i have a folder on a ntfs hard drive, how can i create a shortcut on my kubuntu desktop to that slave-drived-folder?
[09:38] <Hobbsee> eliezer: have you mounted it?
[09:39] <eliezer> yep, i had a hard time with it, but i've finally found out how to do it. im a rookie. it's my day number 4 under linux.
[09:39] <Hobbsee> :) nice
[09:39] <eliezer> y'know what? im going to give you the link. it could be useful. i looked under tons and tons of links and this was the one that worked.
[09:39] <eliezer> thanks man. :)
[09:40] <Hobbsee> sure - be glad to see the link
[09:40] <eliezer> http://www.linuxforum.com/tutcomments/1/688.php
[09:40] <eliezer> (:
[09:41] <Hobbsee> *looks*
[09:41] <eliezer> probably it will look easy for you. but believe me, i've tryied some other links and nothing worked.
[09:41] <Hobbsee> nice link
[09:41] <eliezer> thanks. :D
[09:42] <Hobbsee> the one on the ubuntuguide works well, even though they say it's outdated
[09:43] <eliezer> ohhh, i guess i didnt try that. im not an organized guy, i just did searches on google. probably thats why i couldnt solve the problem until 15 minutes ago huh? hehe.
[09:44] <aftertaf> eliezer: once mounted, you can use konqueror to do a dragdrop of your ntfs folder onto the desktop, i think you need to hold down ctrl & shit to make a symbolic link...... or you rihtclick your desktop and choose new shortcut ;)
[09:45] <eliezer> oh oh :)
[09:45] <eliezer> like: right click on my desktop->create new->link to device->hard disk device.
[09:46] <eliezer> im sorry! i just had such a hard time with the hard drive that i didnt try that. i guess im kind of dumb. but at least im trying, hehe.
[09:46] <eliezer> as far as i know now, windows is not the best option out there. even though it doesn't seem to be such a horrible OS, i liked this one better.
[09:49] <eliezer> thanks aftertaf, thanks hobbsee.
[09:50] <aftertaf> eliezer: no not dumb :)     that type of rightcliock thing is direct from windows
[09:50] <aftertaf> a lot of stuff like that it to help thetransition from windows to linux. you can do most things in console in linux if you choose to... ;)
[09:51] <aftertaf> and good choice with k|ubuntu :) stay with it, write down everything you learn, one day you'll be helping others
[09:51] <eliezer> hehehe, yeah. red_judas sometimes logs on to this chanel. he lives like 3 blocks ahead from my place and he recommended me to install kubuntu to try linux. i fell in love with the OS. he keeps telling me to get used to do everything from the Terminal.
[09:52] <eliezer> yeah, everytime I find something useful I save it on my email. hehe, so if i have to format or anything ill still have the info.
[09:52] <eliezer> im using KDE desktop. though.
[09:54] <aftertaf> eliezer: getting used to reminal is easier said than done,but it is good advice. tae it at your own pace, and keep track of all things you learn is my advice... and come here often to ask ;)
[09:54] <aftertaf> reminal == terminal (with kb problems :) )
[09:58] <eliezer> aftertaf: thank you so much!! i'll keep in mind all the advices from people like you. thank you! for now i have to go to bed. but i hope to find people like you later on when i have to get help. but first, i will use google. i promise. hehe.
[10:05] <kubuntu_guy> guys I already setup samba server and want to add my samba server in lmhost of windwos how can I do it?
[10:20] <aftertaf> notepad.
[11:28] <hanseatic> hi... i have suddenly a very strange behavior in the gogle box of the konqueror. i can type in whatever i want but i cannot send my search to google by clicking the return button
[11:29] <hanseatic> what can i do?
[11:32] <quda> all hail to kubuntu
[11:32] <jenton> how can I stop the volume buttons on my keyboard being bound to kmix?
[11:34] <hanseatic> khotkeys?
[11:37] <jenton> no, it's not there, and it's not in "Keyboard Shortcuts" in KControl either
[11:39] <hanseatic> guess kmix then.... maybe in some /home/user/.*/*.conf
[11:47] <_betoarts> hi
[11:48] <_betoarts> no stands kubuntu
[11:48] <_betoarts> bug
[11:48] <_betoarts> every time
[11:51] <andreas_> how many lines of code are there in the linux kernel now?
[11:51] <andreas_> anyone know?
[11:59] <Lathiat> 5184657 just in the .c files of ubuntus kernel
[11:59] <Lathiat> (5 million)
[12:01] <Lathiat> 1.2 million more in .h and 261000  in .S (assembler)
[12:09] <andreas_> ic
[12:10] <andreas_> thanks Lathiat 
[12:11] <jubei> hey, I just updated to breezy and the amarok shortcut keys no longer work (eg win key + c) does anyone know why this is?
[12:14] <legout> hi. how can i update my kde-menus?
[12:15] <legout> ive installed firefox and thunderbird, but the programs dont appear in my kde-menu
[12:20] <jubei> why doesnt my windows key work in breezy?
[12:29] <legout> hi. Programs that i install dont appear in my kde-menu. why? what can i do?
[12:33] <FaxeSystem> hi, could somebody post a nice sources.list in pastebin for me? I'm using Kubuntu german. thnx
[12:39] <stupendo44> hey, I have an iso mounted, and I'm trying to install a game using wine, but it needs the second cd. How can I force it to unmount the first cd?
[12:45] <legout> stupendo44: oepn another konsole
[12:46] <stupendo44> ok, and?
[12:46] <legout> stupendo44:umount ur cd manually on this console, eject, insert new cd and mount it.
[12:46] <legout> stupendo44: which game do u wanna install?
[12:47] <stupendo44> I'm trying nba 2005
[12:47] <stupendo44> did I mention it's an iso I'm mounting, not a physical cd?
[12:47] <stupendo44> it won't let me unmount, says it's busy.
[12:48] <legout> stupendo44: which game?
[12:48] <stupendo44> nba live 2005
[12:48] <legout> do u know if it works??
[12:49] <legout> stupendo44: you can also "copy the cd iso to your hd and than mount it this.
[12:49] <stupendo44> do you think I would have an iso file on a cd?
[12:50] <stupendo44> an iso is a cd image
[12:50] <legout> stupendo44: cat /mnt/cd >/tmp/cd1.iso
[12:50] <stupendo44> it would be dumb to have an iso on a cd
[12:50] <legout> stupendo44: try this. iveread this somewhere. but i cant find it again.
[12:50] <stupendo44> the iso is already on my hard drive
[12:50] <N1omi> stupendo44: make sure you're trying to mount the right drive. (i tried to umount the drive i was running the OS on, that was silly and i nearly hosed the system) there's a command to kill all processes using a drive
[12:51] <stupendo44> is there a command I can use to view what processes are using the drive?
[12:51] <legout> stupendo44: lol. than mount the iso. mount -t iso cd.iso /where/you/wanna/mount
[12:51] <N1omi> yes. it's the kill command but i'm not sure of the arguments
[12:52] <LeeJunFan> stupendo44: fuser -m /dev/hda[x] 
[12:52] <stupendo44> legout: I've already mounted the iso, installed the first cd of the game, and now it wants the second cd
[12:52] <stupendo44> this is not a device I'm using, so /dev doesn't apply...
[12:53] <legout> stupendo44: than mount the second iso somewhere else.
[12:53] <legout> or try to "overmount" the first iso
[12:53] <LeeJunFan> stupendo44: sry, just got up. you have an iso file mounted via loopback?
[12:54] <stupendo44> already tried that
[12:54] <stupendo44> yes, LeeJunFan 
[12:54] <stupendo44> LeeJunFan: installing a game using wine
[12:54] <stupendo44> got through the first cd, now it wants the second one,but when I try to unmount, it says it's in use
[12:54] <LeeJunFan> you can give it a directory name instead, ie - the mountpoint
[12:55] <N1omi> stupendo44: can you just mount the second CD in addition.
[12:56] <stupendo44> hmm, that worked
[12:57] <stupendo44> but the game still didn't see it. hold on
[12:58] <stupendo44> ok, it's going
[12:58] <stupendo44> thanks guys
[12:58] <legout> stupendo44: what uve done. mount cd2 too another mont-point?
[12:59] <stupendo44> no, mounting to another mount point wouldn't allow nba live 2005 setup to see it. I had to mount again in the same place. I'm just not sure I understand how this works, since it couldn't unmount
[12:59] <stupendo44> I had to mount cd2 where cd1 was mounted, as N1omi said
[01:00] <LeeJunFan> stupendo44: yeah, got me, I would think you'd get the error [mountpoint]  already mounted or device busy.
[01:00] <stupendo44> yeah. I'm glad it worked, though
[01:00] <legout> stupendo44: thats what i mean with "overmount" ;-)
[01:01] <legout> stupendo44: but coz my english is so bad, i dont know how to explain.lol
[01:01] <legout> happy playing.
[01:01] <stupendo44> lol, it's ok
[01:01] <stupendo44> I hope it works. we'll see
[01:01] <legout> and please tell me if the game runs fine with wine.
[01:01] <N1omi> legout: could be a linux game!
[01:01] <stupendo44> I will. I'll post to appdb my results
[01:02] <N1omi> or not.
[01:02] <stupendo44> it's nba live 2005
[01:02] <legout> oh. and cat /dev/hdc >/tmp/cd.iso creats a nice .iso-file on hd.lol
[01:02] <legout> good to know;)
[01:02] <stupendo44> I haven't seen anybody list any success with it so far, so I'm seeing for myself
[01:03] <stupendo44> legout: yeah, I already knew that. good to know. :_
[01:03] <legout> stupendo44: me not. thougt it would work with dd somehow
[01:04] <stupendo44> but I wasn't using any physical cd
[01:04] <stupendo44> I don't know why you thought I was...
[01:05] <legout> stupendo44: ok.
[01:05] <legout> stupendo44: i thought uve got the original installation isos;)
[01:06] <stupendo44> they wouldn't be called "iso's". Iso's are images on the hard drive. cd's are physical discs in your hand
[01:07] <legout> yeah i know. ym fault :-(
[01:07] <stupendo44> anyways, gtg. Thanks again for your help
[01:16] <icewt> the Desktop Sharing system in KDE - does it share the current desktop (like VNC in windows does) so that one can fight of the mouse&keyboard with the one connecting, or does it open up a new login dialog when connecting?
[01:19] <bezita_drag> #surabaya
[01:21] <icewt> nevermind, already found answer for my question
[01:22] <aftertaf> icewt:  which was?   whats the answer? ;)
[01:22] <LeeJunFan> icewt: if you want to share the login screen look up xdmcp
[01:22] <icewt> aftertaf: it shares the current desktop
[01:23] <icewt> LeeJunFan: that's just what i don't want it to do ;)
[01:30] <aftertaf> i cant get it to work. sometimes the login prompt pops up but i cant type anything in it... :/
[01:33] <raphink> aftertaf: what if you click on the box ?
[01:33] <aftertaf> same pb
[01:34] <aftertaf> not focus pb...
[01:34] <aftertaf> there are loads of packages for vnc server too.?.. weird.
[01:34] <aftertaf> which is/are best one(s)
[01:35] <LeeJunFan> aftertaf: I've always used the KDE built in one w/o any problems.
[01:35] <aftertaf> ok, but i'm not running it right now.
[01:35] <aftertaf> whats the package called?
[01:36] <LeeJunFan> which? the KDE one or the one for just plain ole X?
[01:36] <aftertaf> kde.
[01:36] <aftertaf> i apt'ed xvncserver
[01:37] <bobuse> aftertaf: krfb
[01:37] <aftertaf> hehe ok.
[01:37] <LeeJunFan> kde is built in to kde, you just have to go to kcontrol under internet and network.
[01:37] <bobuse> and krdc for the vnc client
[01:37] <aftertaf> LeeJunFan:  i'm runnning e1 at the mo on kubuntu...
[01:37] <bobuse> They are both installed with kubuntu
[01:38] <bobuse> aftertaf: look at Internet menu
[01:45] <`Nomad> !asx
[01:45] <ubotu> I don't know, `Nomad
[01:45] <`Nomad> !stream
[01:45] <ubotu> No idea, `Nomad
[01:45] <`Nomad> !media
[01:45] <ubotu> `Nomad: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:45] <`Nomad> !radio
[01:45] <ubotu> `Nomad: Are you on ritalin?
[01:46] <`Nomad> !codecs
[01:46] <ubotu> codecs is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:01] <`Nomad> Hi all,  is it not possible to stream .asx in Kubuntu?  CBC has chosen to stream only .asx.. Grrr!!
[02:03] <`Nomad> Shoot.. Kaffeine does it.. yeaaaah!
[02:03] <`Nomad> sorry.. :)
[02:04] <umuntu> looking fr help on how o configure wireless on slackware
[02:05] <umuntu> linux virgin, single booting slackware 10.2 on laptop
[02:05] <umuntu> trying to configure wireless 
[02:05] <umuntu> please help
[02:05] <umuntu> anyone??
[02:07] <umuntu> thanks you guys,
[02:07] <`Nomad> umuntu: Did you try a slackware channel?
[02:07] <umuntu> tried iwconfig
[02:07] <`Nomad> a slackware IRC channel
[02:07] <umuntu> did not pick up inbuilt wireless on laptop
[02:07] <nalioth> #slackware awaits
[02:08] <nalioth> ubuntu and slack are very different
[02:08] <`Nomad> v e r y 
[02:08] <umuntu> thanks Nomad, going to slackware
[02:09] <umuntu> i have kubuntu on ma desktop
[02:09] <umuntu> loving it
[02:09] <umuntu> thot I'd try it as it is in ma language
[02:09] <aftertaf> good for you :)
[02:09] <umuntu> and feel right at home
[02:09] <umuntu> thanks mate
[02:10] <nalioth> umuntu: we usually help with common linux problems, but slack and wireless are best kept in #slackware
[02:19] <freemanen> I have a problem with audacity because it can't record ?
[02:23] <Myk3> hello
[02:24] <Myk3> is there a way to add a network printer?
[02:24] <Myk3> like from a network server not a windows shared printer
[02:32] <icewt> oh, there's RC1 already
[02:32] <tenco> yeahm, knode 0.10 rocks :)
[02:33] <icewt> are there big differences compared to 3.4.3?
[02:33] <tenco> yes, konqueror now passes the acid 2 test!
[02:33] <icewt> oh
[02:34] <icewt> hmm.. maybe i'll wait for the final 3.5 anyway
[02:34] <tenco> knode now seems to count the article number in the group overview correctly
[02:34] <tenco> *groups
[02:35] <tenco> and akregator operates faster on certain rss-feeds
[02:42] <pointwood> I upgraded to 3.5b1 and that went well, then I upgraded to b2 and that wasn't quite as big a success :( I dunno whether I should upgrade to RC1...
[02:44] <Juerd> 14:33 < tenco> yes, konqueror now passes the acid 2 test!
[02:44] <nalioth> pointwood: living on the cutting edge makes one bleed
[02:44] <Juerd> Yeah, the acid 2 page I visit almost daily, so this is very important!
[02:44] <Tm_T> KDE <3
[02:44] <Juerd> Tm_T: >3, actually.
[02:44] <Juerd> But who's counting ;)
[02:45] <Tm_T> Juerd: err, tilt your head ;)
[02:45] <Juerd> Tm_T: The correct notation of that would be:
[02:45] <pointwood> nalioth: true, I'm not complaining :) anyone got experience upgrading from b2 -> RC1?
[02:45] <Tm_T> pointwood: me
[02:46] <nalioth> Tm_T bleeds
[02:46] <LeeJunFan> well, we know who has the brass ones :)
[02:47] <pointwood> Tm_T: ohh...Dapper - how stable is that?
[02:48] <nalioth> pointwood: atm, it's much like breezy (since it's mostly breezy)
[02:49] <pointwood> k
[02:49] <nalioth> pointwood: the real fun begins in 2 months
[02:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> nalioth: 2 months?
[02:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> xorg?
[02:50] <nalioth> Kamping_Kaiser: when the Xorg starts flaking out
[02:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. i remember going modular :|
[02:51] <bla|patrick> hi
[02:52] <bla|patrick> is it possible to display my partitions in konqueror's media:/ section?
[02:52] <bla|patrick> i only can see there dvds and floppies
[02:52] <nalioth> bla|patrick: use qtparted
[02:52] <pointwood> what's comming in regards to xorg?
[02:53] <bla|patrick> nalioth, k
[02:54] <tenco> but xorg is already modular in breezy!?
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> tenco: yes, but xorg will go to V 7 
[02:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> from 6.8 (or whatever)
[02:57] <bla|patrick> nalioth, well...
[02:57] <tenco> oh
[02:57] <tenco> o_O
[02:57] <bla|patrick> i dont want create a partition
[02:57] <bla|patrick> i would like to see them in media:/
[02:57] <bla|patrick> in kde
[02:57] <nalioth> bla|patrick: i dont think its gonna happen be default
[02:58] <bla|patrick> well... 
[02:58] <bla|patrick> how can i display my existing partitions with videos and music in that media:/ -menu in konquerror
[02:59] <bla|patrick> i wonder why the content of /media isnt displayed there
[03:01] <bla|patrick> nalioth, how can i add my drives to that folder in konqueror?
[03:02] <nalioth> bla|patrick: what drives are you talking about?
[03:03] <bla|patrick> hda5 sdb2 sdb3
[03:03] <bla|patrick> sda2 sda4
[03:03] <nalioth> bla|patrick: are they mounted now?
[03:03] <bla|patrick> there are movies, music and shared graphics
[03:03] <bla|patrick> nalioth jep
[03:03] <bla|patrick> in gnome i can see them on desktop and access them
[03:04] <nalioth> bla|patrick: what is in /media   ?
[03:04] <bla|patrick> in kde they are not displayed in konquerors media folder, that can be accessed from the first page
[03:04] <monad> hi... k3b won't burn cds properly and always exits with something like mkisofs failed. i need to burn a kubuntu install cd stat, can someone tell me the right command sequence for cdrecord please?
[03:04] <bla|patrick> in media are the mountpoints
[03:04] <bla|patrick> but in media:/ is only the floppydrive entry
[03:04] <nalioth> bla|patrick: ahh, i see now
[03:04] <bla|patrick> although the describtion tells about removals and harddrives
[03:05] <bla|patrick> ya :D
[03:05] <nalioth> i dont know where konqueror looks to diplay things in media:/
[03:05] <Kamping_Kaiser>  /media isnt it?
[03:06] <bla|patrick> Kamping_Kaiser, no....
[03:07] <bla|patrick> then there should be 6 partitions displayed
[03:07] <bla|patrick> those i added in fstab to mount on bootup
[03:15] <Tm_T> pointwood: well, dunno about stable but only problem I found is gcc issue
[03:15] <pointwood> okay, well I upgraded now, just need to reboto
[03:15] <pointwood> * reboot
[03:16] <bla|patrick> nalioth, any idea what i should search for? google only hints for creating mounting points
[03:16] <bla|patrick> how is that konqueror menu called in english that referrs to that media:/ stuff
[03:18] <Tm_T> nalioth: I'm never bleeding ;--P
[03:19] <LeeJunFan> Tm_T: needs a less latent internet connection.
[03:19] <Tm_T> LeeJunFan: ok? how I may help you
[03:20] <LeeJunFan> Tm_T, no I was saying you need a less latent connection, as your reply to nalioth was about 1/2hr late :)
[03:20] <nalioth> bla|patrick: not sure atm, i'm fighting my konqueror into submission right now
[03:20] <Tm_T> LeeJunFan: or it was my coffee break
[03:21] <bla|patrick> kk
[03:24] <gigcs> i have question
[03:25] <nalioth> gigcs: dont hide it from us
you  advise kubuntu remastering.
[03:30] <nalioth> gigcs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallCDCustomizationHowTo
[03:33] <guillermito> Hi
i doubt document .because i read and test .
[03:33] <guillermito> I'va tried installing the pakage msttcorefots 
[03:34] <guillermito> but I cant, does anybody know how to add M$ truetype fotns?
[03:34] <gigcs> but i can't  make .because doubt sign package.
[03:34] <guillermito> i've tried installig a debian paakage... manually...
 you can make redistro kubuntu.??
[03:38] <nalioth> gigcs: read the link
i doubt add package because i test add ubuntu-keyring. how  you have trick.
[03:49] <chiloe> hola
[03:49] <bla|patrick> hmmm...
[03:49] <chiloe> hey
[03:50] <bla|patrick> chmod snytax is chmod *filename* 000
[03:50] <chiloe> somebody speaks spanish here? i need help with the audio codecs installation
[03:50] <bla|patrick> isnt it?
[03:50] <chiloe> in kubuntu
[03:50] <nalioth> !es
[03:50] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:50] <chiloe> thanks pal
[03:51] <nalioth> or vaya de el #kubuntu-es
[03:51] <gigcs>  <nalioth>i try add package not update  package on cd.
[03:52] <nalioth> gigcs: i only know the link i sent you. i have no idea about gpg keyrings or making new cds
[03:52] <nalioth> gigcs: ask in #ubuntu 
[03:53] <nikkia> bla|patrick: no, you have it the wrong way around, syntax is chmod <perms> <filename>
[03:54] <nikkia> where perms can be either the octal representation, or the symbolic
[03:54] <bla|patrick> nikkia, ok :)
[03:59] <bla|patrick> hmmm... does someone know where to find the setting, that controls whats in "media:/"
[04:00] <bla|patrick> i'd like to see there my harddrive mountpoints from /media
[04:00] <LeeJunFan> bla|patrick: I don't think that's at all configurable.
[04:01] <penguinzdr> guys/gals i have installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu. can i remove ubuntu-desktop and everything to be alright?
[04:01] <bobuse> bla|patrick: this feature is planed for dapper, I think
[04:01] <bobuse> penguinzdr: no
[04:01] <bla|patrick> LeeJunFan, any idea how to get the partitions to that menu?
[04:01] <penguinzdr> bobuse: why?
[04:02] <bla|patrick> bobuse, whats dapper?
[04:02] <bla|patrick> kde4?
[04:02] <bla|patrick> kde3.5?
[04:02] <bobuse> penguinzdr: I have had the same question last week
[04:02] <bobuse> bla|patrick: dapper is the next (K)ubuntu release
[04:03] <penguinzdr> bobuse: and why the answer is "no"?
[04:03] <nalioth> nikkia: i fixed my konq problem
[04:03] <bobuse> penguinzdr: try to remove ubuntu-desktop, it doesn't remove all specific ubuntu debs
[04:04] <penguinzdr> ok, i will stay with both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop
[04:04] <bobuse> penguinzdr: you could uninstall gnome-libs, that will remove lot of gnome progs
[04:05] <bobuse> penguinzdr: and then you could use deborphan and debfoster
[04:05] <bla|patrick> bobuse, thats nice for ubuntu... but i need it workin now and not in 6 month
[04:06] <bobuse> bla|patrick: yes ;-) So, I had reinstalled kubuntu in place of the ubuntu that I want remove (for a colleague)
[04:06] <penguinzdr> lol konversation is REALLY cool
[04:06] <bobuse> bla|patrick: sorry
[04:07] <gigcs> i want ask ubuntu
[04:07] <_dani> hola, alguien sabe instalar una ati 9250 en kubuntu???
[04:07] <bla|patrick> bobuse, thats no option for me
[04:07] <bla|patrick> i finally got ati working after many hours
[04:07] <bla|patrick> i dont start that nuisance again!
[04:08] <bobuse> bla|patrick: I've mixed your msg with penguinzdr
[04:09] <bobuse> bla|patrick: you could add the applet that displays mounted devices
[04:09] <bobuse> bla|patrick: applet in kicker
[04:11] <astritzh> Hi... are your KDE fonts ugly like mine ...? any hint on better fonts ?
[04:12] <bla|patrick> bobuse, urm... could u tell me more?
[04:13] <bla|patrick> will that display the drives in taht konqueror-menu?
[04:14] <gigcs> what is command gpg list key in package debian.
[04:16] <bobuse> bla|patrick: there is an applet ("Media Applet") for kicker that displays devices
[04:18] <gigcs> i don't understand update package on cd kubuntu
[04:18] <emurz> hello, how can I Install flash for konqueror
[04:18] <bobuse> emurz: use EasyKubuntu
[04:19] <bobuse> emurz: EasyKubuntu -> http://olwin.free.fr/serendipity/
[04:20] <nalioth> bobuse: please dont do that
[04:20] <bobuse> nalioth: why ?
[04:20] <nalioth> easy - scripts are easy to blow up your box
[04:20] <bobuse> it's unofficial
[04:20] <zolex> sudo doesn't work on my system it always gives errors what can i do?
[04:20] <nalioth> those scripts have no oversight, and some are just heinous in their coding
[04:21] <nalioth> the writers dont take into consideration all the variables the script may come in contact with and --force-all is not a valid "fix" for their ignorance
[04:21] <nalioth> to the users of "easyUbuntu" and "easyKubuntu" be wary, it HAS broken computers, and will break more
[04:22] <LeeJunFan> so much for easy....
[04:22] <zolex> its all crap
[04:22] <bobuse> nalioth: I agree with you, it's dirty ... but we (I) need it !
[04:23] <nalioth> bobuse: no you dont
[04:23] <nalioth> !flash
[04:23] <ubotu> I guess flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:23] <emurz> nalioth, I installed that package, it still doesn't werk
[04:23] <nalioth> emurz: what arch of kubuntu are you running?
[04:24] <bla|patrick> bobuse, whats kicker? will taht display those drives in konqueror?
[04:24] <bobuse> nalioth: give me the major errors in the script
[04:24] <bobuse> bla|patrick: kicker is the panel at the bottom of your screen
[04:24] <emurz> nalioth, it works for firefox, but still it doesn't work for konqueror
[04:25] <nalioth> emurz: in your konq settings, locate the firefox plugins dir and point konq at that place
[04:25] <nalioth> bobuse: --force-all iS a MAJOR no-no
[04:25] <bobuse> nalioth: ok, you'rb right
[04:26] <bla|patrick> bobuse, well thats definetly not a solution 
[04:28] <bobuse> noirequus: there isn't --force-all, but --force-yes, but it's also bad
[04:29] <gigcs> sign key package  debian.which command
[04:33] <monad> hi... just finished my first kubuntu install, migrating from gentoo. just one question: what the f*** is my root password? i've never been asked to input one, just one for a default user.
[04:33] <zolex^java> hehe another one :)
[04:33] <monad> happens more often? great
[04:33] <monad> maybe someone should tell the developers
[04:33] <zolex^java> yeah and if ur sudo doesn't work your f****
[04:34] <zolex^java> like me ^^
[04:34] <monad> good thing compared to gentoo is that a new install doesn't take three days :-)
[04:34] <nikkia> zolex^java: as opposed to 'if your root password doesn't work your f****' ?
[04:34] <zolex^java> my sudo doesn't work
[04:34] <zolex^java> and i can't login with root cuz u need sudo for root
[04:35] <zolex^java> and i get always errors like "kde su error"
[04:35] <zolex^java> and  sudo: unable to lookup via gethostbyname()
[04:35] <zolex^java> but to fix that you must be root
[04:35] <monad> so what do i do?
[04:35] <zolex^java> and i can't be root cuz sudo doesn't work etc.
[04:36] <monad> "to understand recursion you have to understand recursion first"
[04:36] <monad> i'm going to install again anyways, because i need to repartition - at what point can i insert a root passwd?
[04:37] <zolex^java> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root
[04:38] <zolex^java> The first user created during the installation has administrative rights on the system, and can run programs as root with sudo, using only their normal user password. 
[04:38] <zolex^java> > i can't
[04:38] <zolex^java> thumbs up (Y)
[04:39] <monad> ok, worked... thanks
[04:42] <ttrichle7> Hi, does anyone have a good howto for getting kubuntu to recognize the internal wireless modem on a Tecra9000
[04:42] <ttrichle7> rhel4 recognizes it as ..Intersil PRISM2 11 Mbps Wireless Adapter.
[04:42] <ttrichle7> driver:orinoco_cs device: /dev/eth1
[04:44] <vojta> !w32codecs
[04:44] <ubotu> [w32codecs]  binary only codecs that some call evil. One possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[04:48] <ttrichle7> a search of the forums did not turn up anything on Intersil PRISM2
[04:48] <gigcs> I don't understand againstthe public keys held in the package ubuntu-keyring.Please explain
[04:56] <buz> After unpacking 271MB disk space will be freed.
[04:56] <buz> is that right
[04:56] <buz> for upgrade from kde3.5rc1 to 3.5.0rc1-1?
[04:58] <emurz> where is the option "download all links" in Konqueror?
[04:59] <zolex^java> nice support here
[04:59] <sghingo> ciao
[05:00] <sghingo> c' qualcuno che mi puo aiutare
[05:00] <psyke> hi, I'm having trouble with Kubuntu on two machines here.. does anyone notice a big stutter or delay when highlighting icons (using that translucent rectangle) on the desktop? 2D performance is terrible, dragging windows is always slow, and Xorg uses a lot of cpu
[05:01] <buz> what graphics hardware
[05:02] <buz> also do you use transparency?
[05:02] <psyke> buz: old graphics cards. One system has a Nvidia TNT2, another an ATI Mobility M4. I've tried the nv and nvidia drivers for the TNT2, no difference
[05:03] <buz> mh on mobility radeon 7500 i havent noticed problems
[05:03] <buz> neither on integrated cards
[05:03] <psyke> buz: I downloaded and burned knoppix and opensuse to compare on both systems, their 2D performance is really snappy compared to Kubuntu
[05:04] <buz> that is kinda weird yes
[05:04] <psyke> 3D performance (glxgears etc) is fine on kubuntu, though
[05:04] <buz> THAT is truly weird
[05:05] <psyke> there's something strange going on, and I love Kubuntu.. but the poor 2D performance gets on my nerves
[05:05] <psyke> the speed difference was really noticeable compared to both Knoppix and SUSE, unfortunately...
[05:05] <_root_> is this normal in windows with game chromium i achieve 70+ fps and on kubuntu only 30?
[05:06] <buz> sounds like a case for the forums
[05:06] <buz> did you try ubuntu itself?
[05:06] <_root_> r u talking to me?
[05:06] <psyke> buz: I've searched through the forums, and tried some proposed solutions to no avail, and yes, I've tried ubuntu.. you know what's weird? GNOME is more sluggish than KDE (in Kubuntu)...
[05:07] <buz> sounds like a driver issue
[05:07] <psyke> but KDE in Kubuntu is still significantly slower compared to KDE in other distros
[05:07] <buz> did you compare xorg config with the xorg config of say knoppix
[05:07] <gigcs> signing  a remastered  ubuntu cd help!!
[05:07] <buz> one moment, gotta logout/login
[05:07] <psyke> buz: SUSE recognised my graphics hardware better, for example it knew the exact monitor name and configuration, so I'm reinstalling Kubuntu, and I'm going to try the xorg-config from SUSE on it
[05:09] <psyke> wb buz
[05:09] <buz> psyke: sounds like something i'd do ;)
[05:09] <buz> mhh kde 3.5rc1-1 works for all i can say
[05:10] <psyke> I installed the first 3.5 beta to test and it was sluggish just like before (not to mention artsd crashed all the time)
[05:10] <gigcs> I'm building my own verison of a ubuntu install cd
[05:10] <v-dogg> a bit off-topic but I'll ask anyway (because you guys might have an opinion :)
[05:10] <v-dogg> what's the best way to do multi-OS desktop software these days?
[05:11] <gigcs> but i don't understand relation ubuntu-keyring with  new package
[05:11] <v-dogg> Java, Java + Eclipse components, that-mozilla-thingy, Delphi/Kylix or what?
[05:11] <gigcs> Please advise i blind .
[05:12] <buz> v-dogg: what language would you like to use
[05:13] <buz> as for c++, definitely qt, for the scripting languages likely too, with java likely swt
[05:13] <v-dogg> doesn't matter (much), I'm familiar with Java, Delhphi and C++
[05:13] <buz> i'd stay away from kylix
[05:13] <buz> the kylix apps i've seen looked horrible
I'm building my own verison of a ubuntu install cd
[05:14] <gigcs> but i don't understand relation ubuntu-keyring with ?new package
[05:14] <buz> gigcs: neither do i 
[05:17] <tecnis> hola
[05:17] <tecnis> hello
[05:18] <tecnis> some body speakind spanish???
[05:18] <tecnis> speaking
[05:19] <tecnis> bye
[05:20] <FaxeSystem> Is it possible to install, linux-amd64-k8 linux-restricted-modules-amd64-k8 (amd64 linux kernel) into a Kubuntu i386? Because I can't find this file with apt (yes I have activated the repositories). I just can find the K7 Kernel. Should use this one under Kubuntu i386?
[05:21] <Delvien> whats a good site to download KXdocker off of
[05:28] <DaSkreech> What would I need to apt to install mod_ssl in apache?
[05:30] <DaSkreech> I get this error
[05:30] <DaSkreech> Package mod_ssl has no available version, but exists in the database.
[05:30] <DaSkreech> This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
[05:30] <DaSkreech> never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
[05:30] <DaSkreech> of sources.list
[05:31] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[05:31] <DaSkreech> that was two lines a while ago
[05:32] <morrow> Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35rc1/pool-breezy/kdepim/libkdepim1a_3.5-rc1-1ubuntu0breezy1_i386.deb  Size mismatch
[05:32] <morrow> hmmm... is there someone working on the repo?
[05:35] <DaSkreech> How can I see what package mod_ssl is in?
[05:37] <morrow> DaSkreech: with apache2 you don't need mod_ssl. it is now part of the apache distri
[05:37] <DaSkreech> Ah
[05:37] <gigcs> How do I sign a key????
[05:38] <DaSkreech> So I make a ssl folder and drop the certs in there?
[05:38] <DaSkreech> gigcs: GPG?
[05:38] <gigcs> yes
[05:38] <gigcs> sign a key with package 
Do you understand gpg sign key ?
[05:43] <DaSkreech> Yeah they have an easy to follow tut over at gnome.org I think
Please explain . thank you. 
[05:51] <DaSkreech> gigcs: http://webber.dewinter.com/gnupg_howto/english/GPGMiniHowto.html
[06:04] <bhna> hi
[06:06] <Flosoft> hey
[06:08] <gigcs> Vmware on ubuntu 
[06:08] <gigcs> i want install vmware on ubuntu HowTo
[06:08] <buz> gigcs: try vmware 5.5
[06:08] <Delvien> Where are system icons stored?
[06:08] <buz> otherwise consult google
[06:10] <DaSkreech> buz: Is there any move to get Ubuntu Xen ready?
[06:10] <Flosoft> gigcs: you need the kernel sources
[06:10] <buz> DaSkreech: no idea
[06:10] <Flosoft> gigcs: maybe try the auto script ... then it will work
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Hey No admin in here
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Strange
[06:13] <musik> can anyone tell me where i can download michael's who is it song plz???????
[06:13] <Tm_T> err
[06:13] <DaSkreech> musik: I would suggest the internet. It's very resourceful
[06:14] <musik> DaSkreech: i serached everywhere .....cant find it...all ask u to pay
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Well then.... :-)
[06:15] <Riddell> DaSkreech: no admin?
[06:16] <jpowers> musik: this is actually a help channel for kubuntu, a linux distro.
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Riddell: Yeah No Ops
[06:16] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: since you're here. Done anything with qt 4 yet?
[06:16] <Delvien> anyone here use kxdocker?
[06:17] <Riddell> LeeJunFan: nope, what should be done with it?
[06:17] <Riddell> DaSkreech: I'm an op
[06:17] <Riddell> Delvien: /usr/share/icons
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Really? it doesn't show up here :-(
[06:17] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: nothing really, I was just trying to compile SIM from latest svn, it's qt4 now, and said it was missing a qt header file.
[06:18] <Riddell> LeeJunFan: try the -compat package maybe?
[06:18] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: just wondered if perhaps you had run into any probs with qt from the repos, I'll probably try qt from src later, no time now.
[06:18] <musik> cant anyone tell me where i can download free mp3 songs?
[06:18] <musik> :(
[06:18] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: got that.
[06:19] <Russel-Athletic> mhhh something wrong with the kde3.5rc1 rep? i got broken (install) in adept
[06:19] <icewt> musik: yeah, http://remix.kwed.org/
[06:19] <Riddell> musik: this is #kubuntu, you want a warez channel
[06:19] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: qvaluelist.h - owell, I'll get to it later.
[06:21] <LeeJunFan> Russel-Athletic: better to run apt-get from command line to install so you can see the errors better, it probably has a problem with a conflicting file or something which needs to be installed by hand with dpkg, then finished up with another apt-get upgrade.
[06:21] <Delvien> command for copy is sudo cp?
[06:22] <DaSkreech> musik: try ww.vorbis.com
[06:22] <wasp_ems> hello...i have a problem...i cant play any music on my pc nor any movies...the error it comes up with is There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins...what can i do?
[06:22] <Russel-Athletic> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/430589 LeeJunFan 
[06:22] <Russel-Athletic> (it is german but i think you can understand it)
[06:23] <Russel-Athletic> trying apt-get install -f now
[06:23] <DaSkreech> !mp3
[06:23] <ubotu> mp3 is probably to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:24] <DaSkreech> !tell wasp_ems about mp3
[06:24] <bhna> are there openoffice 2.0 deb for breezy?
[06:25] <icewt> bhna: yes
[06:25] <LeeJunFan> Russel-Athletic: looks like libkdepim1a is the root of your problems. It didn't install and a bunch of other stuff seems to require it. And unfortunately there's the language barrier problem :( Forgive my ignorance.
[06:26] <bhna> icewt: beta or the real 2.0?
[06:26] <Russel-Athletic> apt-get install -f seems to solve the problem
[06:26] <icewt> bhna: the final 2.0 - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=438068&postcount=10
[06:27] <LeeJunFan> Russel-Athletic: hrm. you did install libkdepim ?
[06:27] <Russel-Athletic> no just run apt-get install -f
[06:27] <Russel-Athletic> oh and apt-get dist-upgrade works...
[06:27] <Russel-Athletic> what does apt-get install -f do exactly?
[06:27] <bhna> icewt: thanks!
[06:27] <LeeJunFan> cool.
[06:28] <LeeJunFan> Russel-Athletic: fixes broken dependancies, or at least tries to.
[06:28] <Russel-Athletic> k try to remember it when it happens again
[06:28] <LeeJunFan> Russel-Athletic: apparently does a good job for you.
[06:28] <LeeJunFan> Russel-Athletic: right.
[06:28] <wasp_ems> DaSkreech: thanx man but this is too much info and i dont know which to choose...any help in that??i want to be able to play mp3,avi,mpg,wav etc
[06:29] <myk3> hey
[06:29] <DaSkreech> Wav is there ny default
[06:29] <DaSkreech> by
[06:29] <Russel-Athletic> k see you at my next question :)
[06:30] <wasp_ems> it does not work
[06:30] <murtaugh> is there a way to log out another local user viewed from "who"?
[06:30] <DaSkreech> wasp_ems: What player are you using?
[06:31] <DaSkreech> murtaugh: Kill the terminal I think
[06:31] <wasp_ems> amarok and caffeine
[06:31] <murtaugh> I would do it from Alt-fkey but bash is going nuts
[06:31] <murtaugh> oh ok thanks DaSkreech
[06:34] <psyke> hey, can someone do a test for me? open a konsole shell and run top, then using the mouse drag a selection of the desktop and watch the Xorg cpu usage...
[06:34] <murtaugh> DaSkreech, I'm not getting the syntax right. What is happening is this:  I started a terminal session and it froze. I'm in my X session trying to kill the terminal session because bash is at about 99% cpu usage
[06:34] <psyke> on my system, it causes an extreme lag and Xorg's cpu goes to 100%
[06:35] <murtaugh> and killing the PID doesn't work
[06:36] <murtaugh> got it the command is: skill -KILL -v tty1  just incase anyone cared ;)
[06:39] <gigcs> step add package on ubuntu cd
[06:39] <gigcs> step add package on ubuntu cd .HowTo
[06:42] <wasp_ems> ok i fixed the movie bit, but some movies play without sound...what can i do???
[06:44] <wasp_ems> DaSkreech: i fixed the mp3 and the movies...but some dont have sound...anything i can do???
[06:46] <noirequus> wasp_ems: /msg ubotu multimedia
[06:46] <bhna> icewt: have you a tip for firefox 1.5 debs 
[06:48] <wasp_ems> noirequus:what do i do with that?
[06:48] <nalioth> wasp_ems: if you msg ubotu multimedia, he will send you info
[06:48] <nalioth> wasp_ems: via a private message
[06:48] <wasp_ems> ok
[06:48] <wasp_ems> thanx
[06:49] <Delvien> Anyone here use kxdocker
[06:51] <wasp_ems> nalioth:if i dont have synaptic?
[06:51] <nalioth> wasp_ems: synaptic = adept
[06:51] <wasp_ems> ok
[06:54] <gigcs> what time is it?
[06:58] <gigcs> how  config keyboard press F12  switch language.
[06:58] <gigcs> hi
i want config keyboard switch language.
[07:00] <Delvien> god kxdocker sucks... very hard to config, and even harder to update.
[07:01] <wasp_ems> does anyone know how i can make my cursor go slower????
[07:01] <Delvien> kmenu>system settings >mouse
[07:01] <nalioth> gigcs: why do you keep asking me things? ask your questions in #ubuntu 
[07:01] <wasp_ems> yes but what exactly do i change from there?
[07:01] <Delvien> err wait
[07:01] <Delvien> lemme look
[07:02] <wasp_ems> ok..thanx
[07:02] <Delvien> under advanced tab, > pointer acceleration
[07:02] <wasp_ems> i change that but it stays the same
[07:02] <Delvien> ok go to consle
[07:02] <Delvien> konsole*
[07:02] <wasp_ems> k
[07:02] <Delvien> type in kdesu kcontrol
[07:02] <wasp_ems> y
[07:03] <Delvien> wait kdesu systemsettings
[07:03] <Delvien> then try it
[07:03] <wasp_ems> ok...
[07:04] <wasp_ems> thanx
[07:05] <wasp_ems> pointer accelerator is at x1.0..it does not go slower
[07:05] <wasp_ems> :(
[07:07] <wasp_ems> what does kdesu stand for?
[07:07] <Flosoft> kde super user
[07:07] <wasp_ems> like sudo?
[07:07] <Flosoft> yes
[07:07] <wasp_ems> thanx
[07:07] <Flosoft> only on kde
[07:07] <wasp_ems> ok
[07:07] <Flosoft> no problem ;
[07:10] <wasp_ems> :) fixed mp3 and movies..thanx all
[07:10] <nalioth> !kdesu
[07:10] <ubotu> Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.
[07:10] <wasp_ems> oooo
[07:10] <nalioth> wasp_ems: dont use sudo to start kde gui things, you'll trash your user permissions
[07:11] <wasp_ems> ok..thanx
[07:13] <wasp_ems> :( i am trying to change my password and it says you cannot...too simple
[07:14] <wasp_ems> and the one i have is much more simple
[07:18] <Delvien> anyone here use opera?
[07:18] <nalioth> Delvien: just ask your question
[07:18] <Delvien> How do i execute opera from console?
[07:18] <Delvien> konsole*
[07:21] <Delvien> got it nm
[07:23] <icewt> hmm.. i wonder why new programs i install don't appear in the menu - such applications that definitely should appear there
[07:24] <nalioth> icewt: definitely gui apps?
[07:24] <oracel> voice chat / voip on linux - what do you recommend? (skype is void)
[07:24] <icewt> nalioth: well, for example khexedit and inkscape
[07:25] <icewt> nalioth: and i can't add them manually there either
[07:25] <nalioth> icewt: do you not need to restart the kicker or something?
[07:25] <icewt> nalioth: that hasn't been necessary earlier
[07:26] <nalioth> i hate lazy packagers
[07:27] <icewt> but i think there's something else wrong since anything i do with the menu editor doesn't affect the menu
[07:31] <sambagirl> i need to install my sql but what do i choose in kinaptic?
[07:31] <marlun> Is kubuntu and ubuntu the same thing but kubuntu has kde instead of KDE? It seems to be more then that? 
[07:31] <sambagirl> there are a bunch of my sql types
[07:32] <sambagirl> can anyone make a suggestion?
[07:33] <nalioth> marlun: that is the only difference
[07:33] <nalioth> marlun: and xubuntu has xfce4
[07:35] <icewt> hmh.. when i run kmenuedit with kdesu Inkscape is in place, but with normal user it isn't there (and i can't add it there)
[07:35] <marlun> nalioth, don't even know what xfce4 is :)
[07:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell marlun about xubuntu
[07:36] <DaSkreech> !tell DaSkreech about xubuntu
[07:36] <gigcs> f kernel headers (version 2.6.10-5-i386) does not match your
[07:36] <marlun> nalioth, ah, thanks
[07:36] <gigcs> running kernel (version 2.6.10-5-386).  Even if the module were to compile
[07:36] <gigcs> successfully, it would not load into the running kernel.
[07:37] <DaSkreech> !tell DaSkreech about eubuntu
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Drat :)
[07:39] <nalioth> DaSkreech: eubuntu is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155&highlight=enlightenment
[07:40] <nalioth> DaSkreech: unfortunately, there is no official eubuntu
[07:40] <DaSkreech> I should hope not :)
[07:41] <DaSkreech> e is pretty unstable
[07:41] <nalioth> not on my end
[07:41] <DaSkreech> not in terms of processes running but in terms of future
[07:42] <DaSkreech> Should have an award for most likely to be considered a zombie
[07:44] <gigcs> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[07:44] <gigcs> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]                       
[07:44] <gigcs> i have problem
[07:46] <DaSkreech> E needs to have more structure before Canonical should consider supporting it for x years
[07:50] <_douglas> I'm using ndiswrapper on my new pcmcia card, and I can't connect to my friends network because he uses a passphrase and is unwilling to change. I also know that iwconfig does not support passphrases, is there an alternative that is viable?
[07:51] <nalioth> _douglas: change your friend
[07:51] <_douglas> hah
[07:51] <_douglas> so iwconfig is it?
[07:52] <psyke> _douglas: can you get your friend to set an exception on her router to low an unencrypted connection from your card's mac address?
[07:52] <psyke> *his or her
[07:52] <psyke> and allow, sorry, typo
[07:53] <gigcs> hellow
[07:53] <_douglas> perhaps, thanks, for your time.
[07:53] <nalioth> mac address filtering doesnt work too well with ndiswrapper, either
[07:54] <libben> wtf http://www.muchosucko.com/video-davidhasselhoffhookedonafeeling.html
[08:02] <DaSkreech> How can I see what package mod_ssl is in?
[08:03] <rocco_lord> dpkg -S mod_ssl
[08:07] <gigcs> ask error following command: /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl when i install vmware 
[08:08] <nalioth> gigcs: dont paste into the channels, please
[08:10] <gigcs> sorry ,but i have problem.
install vmware 
thank you .
[08:15] <gigcs> bye
[08:22] <wasp_ems> does any one know how i can make the windows transparent?
[08:25] <buz> anyone know what's up with the import mail feature in kmail 3.5rc1-1 being grayed out? not compiled in?
[08:31] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:38] <wasp_ems>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY edward
[08:40] <DaSkreech> :-D
[08:43] <zolex^java> :-D
[08:47] <wasp_ems> :(
[08:48] <wasp_ems> anyway...do u knows how i can make windows transparant
[08:48] <nalioth> wasp_ems: better change it quick
[08:48] <wasp_ems> how?
[08:48] <nalioth> wasp_ems: /msg nickserv help
[08:48] <nalioth> wasp_ems: got a guy in #freenode now who slipped up like you and some ar&&&&&le tooke his nick
[08:49] <wasp_ems> it does not say how to change it
[08:50] <wasp_ems> set
[08:51] <wasp_ems> how do i change it
[08:53] <DaSkreech> IS there an open source way to open Publisher's .pub Files?
[08:53] <wasp_ems> i cannot change it
[08:53] <nalioth> wasp_ems: /msg nickserv help set
[08:53] <nalioth> wasp_ems: sure you can
[08:53] <wasp_ems> i did but it does not say anywhere about changing it
[08:54] <nalioth> wasp_ems: /msg nickserv help set password
[08:54] <nalioth> wasp_ems: i cant help any more without setting your new password for you
[08:55] <wasp_ems> ok fixed it thanx
[08:56] <sfadler> can someone help with a root problem?
[08:58] <sfadler> i am having trouble accessing xorg.conf 
[08:58] <nalioth> sfadler: tried "kdesu kate /etc/xorg.conf"  ?
[08:59] <sfadler> nalioth: no - i will try
[08:59] <DaSkreech> Does no one use emacs anymore? :)
[08:59] <nalioth> DaSkreech: look for a user in #ubuntu named Razor-X
[09:01] <sfadler> nalioth: kdesu reports cannot connect to x server
[09:01] <nalioth> sfadler: AH yes
[09:02] <nalioth> sfadler: can you open a konsole?
[09:02] <sfadler> open
[09:02] <sfadler> nalioth: yes
[09:03] <nalioth> sfadler: sudo nano /etc/xorg.conf
[09:03] <sfadler> nalioth: awesome -  opened
[09:04] <sfadler> nalioth: is there a reason though that kate cannot open xorg.conf?
[09:05] <nalioth> sfadler: the problem you are trying to fix, i assumed
[09:06] <sfadler> nalioth: yes - then perhaps my question should be - what is my problem with root?
[09:08] <nalioth> sfadler: i dont know. tell me again the problem
[09:10] <wasp_ems> does any one know how i can make the windows transparent...
[09:10] <sfadler> nalioth: when trying to open xorg.conf with kate - i get a message saying that kate cannot access the x server
[09:10] <nalioth> sfadler: was that the first problem you came here with?
[09:13] <Taker> sfadler: before typing su try "xhost +"
[09:13] <nalioth> Taker: please dont do that
[09:13] <Taker> nalioth: Why?
[09:13] <nalioth> sfadler: use sudo for console superuser duties or kdesu for kde gui superuser tasks
[09:14] <nalioth> Taker: this is kubuntu, there is no 'su'
[09:14] <nalioth> or i should say, there is no root account to use su
[09:14] <nalioth> !root
[09:14] <ubotu> rumour has it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:17] <sfadler> nalioth: thank you
[09:17] <DaSkreech> nalioth: e user? or just playing with it?
[09:19] <nalioth> DaSkreech: what?
[09:19] <DaSkreech> You said that e is stable by where you are
[09:19] <DaSkreech> Just wondering if you had just tried it out or if you use it fairly regularly
[09:20] <nalioth> by stable you mean "doeant crash hourly" ?
[09:21] <DaSkreech> well not in the statement I made
[09:21] <DaSkreech> in general yes but awhile ago I was talking about the project more than the code
[09:21] <nalioth> seems to be quite a popular project from where i sit
[09:22] <DaSkreech> I don't doubt it \
[09:23] <DaSkreech> It seems to have a tendency to drop quickly into dormancy when a few people lose interest or are not contactable for a while though
[09:23] <DaSkreech> Not very good if you are supporting it at an enterprise level as Canonical is wont to do
[09:26] <DaSkreech> Great Project though :)
[09:26] <nalioth> i'm looking forward to dr17 becoming more mainstream
[09:27] <DaSkreech> And the DR doesn't scare off people :)
[09:32] <nalioth> it wont be called dr when it finals (one hopes)
[09:35] <KaoticEvil> hey everyone :)
[09:36] <nalioth> KaoticEvil: howdy
[09:36] <KaoticEvil> nods too :P
[09:40] <KaoticEvil> ok, this is starting to irritate me... ever since i installed rd1, i cannot connect to *any* FTP sites.
[09:40] <KaoticEvil> not even the one on my LAN.
[09:42] <wasp_ems> hi i want to install dc++ does anyone know where  i can download it from?
[09:43] <nalioth> KaoticEvil: dont worry. i upgraded to breezy and all kinds of stuff is broken
[09:43] <nalioth> wasp_ems: sure. use your adept
[09:43] <KaoticEvil> nalioth: lol
[09:44] <KaoticEvil> nalioth: why would it break FTP tho? i cant even connect using the terminal FTP client
[09:44] <nalioth> KaoticEvil: why would it break my irssi scripts?
[09:44] <nalioth> they sure dont work now
[09:44] <KaoticEvil> thats odd.
[09:44] <KaoticEvil> i wasnt aware that upgrading KDE would break FTP access :P
[09:46] <nalioth> when you deal with 'cutting edge', sometimes it's bloody
[09:46] <KaoticEvil> yeah, i know...
[09:46] <nalioth> KaoticEvil: wanna hear something funny?
[09:46] <KaoticEvil> nalioth: sure
[09:47] <nalioth> i downgraded to kde 3.4.2
[09:47] <nalioth> from breezys 3.4.3
[09:47] <KaoticEvil> ... howd you do that?
[09:47] <nalioth> build the 3.4.2 tree and used dpkg to install it
[09:48] <nalioth> built, even
[09:48] <KaoticEvil> oh
[09:52] <DaSkreech> nalioth: has there ever been a final E?
[09:53] <nalioth> DaSkreech: i'd be happy with .1699999 shipping in ubuntu (backports will be fine)
[09:54] <buz> how about firefox 1.5
[09:54] <buz> due for final today
[09:54] <jatos> anyone here use aemu?
[09:54] <jatos> *qemu
[09:54] <buz> jatos: rarely 
[09:54] <buz> the thing is veeeeery slow
[09:55] <buz> even with kqemu
[09:55] <jatos> are I tryingto find a way to load files onto a dos VM
[09:55] <buz> havent used dos since say 96
[09:56] <buz> (or whenever nt4 was released)
[09:57] <jatos> yeah I have a specific set of purposes for dos
[09:58] <bhna> why skype starting so slow? 2-3 minute on a p4 2.6 ghz
[10:04] <brother_sand> whoa
[10:05] <brother_sand> Pardon.  Does anyone know if alsaconf exists on Breezy?  It isn't present under Hoary and that's causing me trouble.
[10:05] <crimsun> no.
[10:06] <crimsun> It was removed in Warty and won't go back in unless it's rewritten.
[10:09] <KaoticEvil> hey crimsun :)
[10:10] <brother_sand> crimsun: so what's the reccommendation when a card isn't recognized?  I can load the module for it but still get no sound.  I've got nothing but --- no cards --- under /proc/asound/cards
[10:10] <brother_sand> ?
[10:11] <crimsun> brother_sand: are you loading the correct module?
[10:11] <crimsun> hi KaoticEvil 
[10:12] <KaoticEvil> hmmm. i cant get the wiki to let me add a problem.
[10:14] <brother_sand> crimsun: I think so.  According to lspci the sound card is:  0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4610/11 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator]  (rev 01)
[10:14] <crimsun> oh geez
[10:14] <brother_sand> ... and I'm doing a "modprobe snd_cs46xx"
[10:14] <crimsun> welcome to the land of confusion
[10:15] <crimsun> the 4610/11 doesn't necessarily use snd-cs46xx
[10:15] <brother_sand> Yeah ok, so it's a crappy card.  It's actually my friend's system and I'm helping out.
[10:15] <crimsun> don't you love manufacturers that misid their hardware?
[10:15] <brother_sand> ... well, that could cause me some trouble yeah.
[10:15] <KaoticEvil> . o O ( yeah.. love to annihalate(sp?) them... )
[10:17] <crimsun> brother_sand: I need the lspci -vv info for that card
[10:18] <brother_sand> crimsun: incoming ...
[10:18] <crimsun> (use #flood or pastebin if it's huge)
[10:19] <brother_sand> crimsun: this may look ugly.  Here goes:
[10:19] <brother_sand> 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4610/11 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator]  (rev 01)
[10:19] <brother_sand>         Subsystem: Intel Corp.: Unknown device 8080
[10:19] <brother_sand>         Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B-
[10:19] <brother_sand>         Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
[10:19] <brother_sand>         Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 3
[10:19] <brother_sand>         Region 0: Memory at f4100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] 
[10:19] <brother_sand>         Region 1: Memory at f4000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M] 
[10:19] <brother_sand> .
[10:19] <crimsun> (k, next time please use #flood)
[10:19] <brother_sand> ? #flood ?
[10:19] <crimsun> the irc channel #flood, which we use for pasting text
[10:20] <brother_sand> ah.  my apologies.  I'm not really well versed in irc.
[10:21] <crimsun> hmm, I'll need lspci -nv for that, too. Specifically the subvendor
[10:22] <brother_sand> .
[10:22] <brother_sand> ... just a sec.  work interferes.
[10:24] <crimsun> np, I'm at work myself
[10:28] <brother_sand> crimsun: ok, i'm back.  Posting to #flood.
[10:29] <_pat> hello
[10:31] <crimsun> brother_sand: this doesn't happen to be a thinkpad 600e, does it?
[10:33] <brother_sand> crimsun: No.  It's not a laptop at all.  I think it's a Dell but I haven't physically seen it in a while.  My connection is remote.
[10:36] <brother_sand> crimsun: I came across a reference to somebody using the cs4232 module and another using the cs4236 module with this card, but that was with OSS.  Thoughts?
[10:42] <gupta> Hi, just switched to kubuntu today(yay!) . Can someone upload their khotkeys(for gestures) file?
[10:42] <gupta> Also how i can set a gesture to close apps
[10:45] <StR> Hi all!
[10:45] <gupta> Am i online?
[10:45] <nalioth> gupta: you are not
[10:45] <gupta> thanks :)
[10:46] <gupta> ok, i just got kubuntu(Yay!), need some help with khotkeys
[10:46] <gupta> HOw to set a gesture for closing apps?
[10:47] <gupta> Tried everything, it just doesn't works. I really need this to work
[10:50] <gupta> anybody?
[11:05] <Knowerrors> Hell yall, can anybody answer the question in my post here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89854 ?
[11:05] <tjh> I just installed Kubuntu on my laptop. This is the most spectacular thing ever.
[11:06] <nalioth> tjh: yes, isnt it?
[11:06] <monolinux> It's nice, but god damn I'm in a dependencie hell right now
[11:06] <nalioth> monolinux: if you use non ubuntu repos, you can get there quickly
[11:06] <tjh> I'm an old Slackware compile-it-yourselfer but I must admit, it's very nice to just install and it's all there and working together nicely.
[11:06] <monolinux> yes
[11:07] <monolinux> it's audioscrobbler 
[11:07] <monolinux> but a fresh install without make installed.. I rest my case
[11:08] <tjh> Konq is so good I don't even need Mozilla
[11:09] <tjh> I remember how amazed I was when I installed KDE 0.4. How old am I? :)
[11:09] <brother_sand> Knowerrors: What sort of things exist under /mnt
[11:09] <brother_sand> ?
[11:09] <gupta> If you think Konq is good, you will be blown away by Opera
[11:10] <nalioth> gupta: opera isnt system integral
[11:10] <gupta> so?
[11:10] <brother_sand> Knowerrors: also, does sda1 show up anywhere in your fstab?
[11:10] <tjh> Well I still prefer Firefox mostly, but I probably don't need it now
[11:10] <tjh> I must give Opera another run though, test it out.
[11:11] <Knowerrors> brother_sand: nothing at all shows up in /mnt
[11:11] <gupta> tjh good idea! make sure to cjeck out integrated irc and mail
[11:12] <Knowerrors> brother_sand: no, sda1 doesn't show up in fstab
[11:12] <tjh> Now, how easy is Skype to get going in Kubuntu?
[11:15] <brother_sand> Knowerrors: This may be off since this is Debian oriented and not necessarily kubuntu, but I have to have an entry in my fstab like this:
[11:15] <brother_sand> " /dev/sda1       /mnt/usbstorage vfat    rw,user,noauto  0       0"
[11:15] <bimberi> !skype
[11:15] <ubotu> skype is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:15] <crimsun> brother_sand: sorry, I've been hauled off by work; I'll try to read backscroll shortly
[11:15] <brother_sand> in order to get my usb thumbdrive to work
[11:16] <brother_sand> crimsun: no sweat.  Thanks for the help
[11:16] <brother_sand> Knowerrors: the "/mnt/usbstorage" directory was created by me and was not automatically created.
[11:17] <tjh> Thanks for Skype info
[11:17] <brother_sand> Knowerrors: what version of kubuntu are we talking here?
[11:20] <bimberi> tjh: np :)
[11:23] <Knowerrors> brother_sand: breezy 5.10
[11:25] <monolinux> Oppetid Informasjon for [ Kubuntu ] 
[11:25] <monolinux> Oppetid: 2hours 00min
[11:27] <monolinux> Kernel Information for [ Kubuntu ] 
[11:27] <monolinux> OS/Kernel: Linux 2.6.12-9-k7
[11:27] <monolinux> allright
[11:32] <kingsley> hello 
[11:32] <kingsley> my mouse pointer is moving really slow
[11:32] <monolinux> control center
[11:33] <monolinux> pheripals 
[11:33] <monolinux> perhaps
[11:33] <monolinux> I use norwegian language
[11:33] <tjh> System Settings->Mouse->Advanced Tab->
[11:33] <tjh> That should be where you need to be
[11:33] <kingsley> ok thansk tjh 
[11:34] <brother_sand> Knowerrors:  From what you've described it appears that the device is recognized but it isn't being mounted anywhere so you can't access it.  I'm not sure how you got to it before really, but in my Debian system I needed to mount the device somewhere in order to access the filesystem on it.
[11:34] <brother_sand> gotta go.  Later all.
[11:34] <kingsley> no not that kinda flow
[11:34] <kingsley> slow*
[11:34] <kingsley> slow as itts flickering and freezing up
[11:35] <kingsley> the whole kde is like that
[11:39] <etam> hi, how can i add write permissions to users in fstab?
[11:40] <etam> hi, how can i add write permissions to users in fstab?
[11:42] <nalioth> etam: dont repeat please
[11:42] <kingsley> do you think its a kde problem or sorg problem?
[11:43] <kingsley> xorg*