Tonio_dholbach: let's see what happens....12:03
alleeyes, other apps, other users/same apps and don't forget the bad guys and symlink attacks12:03
alleeraphink: nice is 'rm -rf /tmp/kimrm -rf /tmp/kim'   # assume a strange mind made /tmp/kim a link to your home dir12:08
alleeraphink: well, as is the tools will fails a security review miserably (when a novice like me is able to find the holes)12:11
raphinkwell it's not a matter of packaging here12:12
raphinkit's rather a pb with the upstreaming dev12:12
crimsungah, good thing I hadn't synced cppunit yet12:12
alleeraphink: yes, but as a pkger you should do your best to not deliver a pkg that has knows security bugs12:13
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raphinkok allee12:14
raphinkif I am able to find them12:14
alleeraphink: yes12:17
alleebut as is kim is not ready IMHO to be distributed by any distribution12:18
alleepity :(12:18
Kyralwhy is gnome-volume-manager being removed in the latest batch of updates?12:25
crimsunbecause you're chomping at the bit?12:25
Kyralwell, I don't use GNOME to begin with... :P12:25
KyralI think I should reinstall Ubuntu-Desktop...12:26
Kyralor Xubuntu-Desktop12:26
Kyralwell something broke Ubuntu-Desktop12:29
raphinkallee: did you report the security issues ?12:30
alleewriting a comment right now for kde-apps12:31
alleeraphink: but I ponder if better write it in private ...  Any security guy listening?12:31
alleeraphink: no I'm serious!12:32
crimsunmalone has a facility for marking bugs private.12:33
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alleecrimsun: kim is not uploaded yet12:34
crimsunis it on REVU or something?12:34
alleeraphink: is it?12:35
raphinknot yet12:35
raphinkI've just finished it12:35
raphinkand as I'm waiting for my key to be added to the keyring12:35
raphinkI couldn't upload it yet12:35
Kyralcrimsun, consider me another tester for Xubuntu12:37
crimsunKyral: everyone's a prospective tester ;-)12:37
crimsunbtw, it really helps if you use your real names in your irc clients12:37
Kyralokay, brb12:39
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alleeraphink: what's our e-mail? I'll send a private msg for now and would like to add you to cc to help keep an eye on it12:45
raphinkallee: raphink[at] gmail[dot] com12:45
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bur[n] erhas anyone packaged the latest thunar snapshot?12:48
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dholbach_good night everybody12:59
crimsunbur[n] er: it's on REVU01:00
crimsunI'll get to it tonight01:01
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raphinkthanks for the email allee01:24
raphinkanyone working on ksquirrel so far?01:24
bur[n] erright on crimsun, thanks!01:26
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Kyralyahoo, new XChat02:45
Kyralbrb :D02:46
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KyralHow do I get usplash to display the xubuntu artwork instead of the ubuntu artwork...hmmm02:54
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Kyralhey slomo_03:05
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KyralQuick question, if gnome-core gets removed, then effectively GNOME is gone?03:35
bmonty_laptopKyral: apt-cache rdepends gnome-core03:36
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KyralI was looking for a way to get ridda GNOME anyway :D03:36
KyralI meant does it remove it from GDM :P03:37
crimsunKyral: you need to install xubuntu-artwork-usplash, then rerun sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)03:37
minghuaKyral: If you install gnome-core by aptitude, then likely yes03:37
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Kyralcrimsun, I did that after nuking the 5 other kernels in my /boot03:38
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crimsunnote that splash is only active for the first entry.03:38
crimsunbut that's not really relevant here03:38
Kyralwas just looking for a way to purge the DE while keeping stuff like Epiphany and Evolution03:38
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Kyralbtw the Xubuntu splash is nice03:44
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crimsunhum. Are the binaries of 'gnome-games' supposed to be setgid?06:49
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zakamewow centericq's config.*'s are fairly outdated06:54
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minghuacrimsun: if you mean "upstream's intention" by "supposed", then yes07:09
minghuacrimsun: it's for writing the game records in /var/lib (or somewhere)07:10
minghuacrimsun: upstream thinks it's ugly, too07:10
crimsunminghua: ok, then it being broken on my system is probably related to my not having dist-upgraded yet07:10
crimsun(libgksuui1.0-1 and all)07:11
crimsunminghua: I was going to ask elmo to sync cppunit, but apparently there are additional allocator changes for libstdc++, so I'm waiting, since it's one of the packages affected07:12
Yagisanmotus out of curiosity how many of you are subscribed to debian's dsa list ?07:13
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Lathiatcrimsun: yeh they are setgid games right?07:14
Lathiatcrimsun: to write out high score files07:14
zakameoops, wrogn chan07:14
Lathiati need to stop replyign to things before i read the rest of the window :)07:14
LathiatYagisan: i am07:14
crimsunYagisan: I am07:15
Yagisanhow much effort is it to pinch a fix for sarge and apply it to breezy ?07:15
minghuacrimsun: oh sure, of course should wait for libstdc++.  thanks for remembering this :-)07:16
Yagisanas I just noticed another sec update for uim07:16
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crimsunYagisan: that has already been fixed in Ubuntu07:18
crimsunYagisan: bmonty sent the debdiff; pitti applied it07:18
Yagisancrimsun: is that the same error I reported to malone ? I thought it was a new one07:19
crimsunhttps://launchpad.net/malone/3328 ?07:20
crimsunthe changelog from uim (1:0.4.7-1ubuntu1.1) breezy-security reports it as such07:20
crimsunCVE-2005-3149 http://bugs.debian.org/33162007:20
crimsunso yes.07:20
Yagisancrimsun: yep that's it07:21
crimsuna few of us already discussed it last week07:21
Yagisancrimsun: I was mildly concerned I needed another update07:21
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minghuaYagisan: it's not a bug that affects a lot of things anyway07:22
minghuaFor official ubuntu, it only affects mlterm-im-uim users07:22
Yagisanminghua: yes, but it is on one of my servers, so I thought I would double check07:24
minghuaYagisan: yeah, sure.  it's never too safe when it comes to servers :-)07:25
Yagisanminghua: Although uim is breaking a lot of other apps. perhaps I should bulk import the ubuntu japan scim repo07:26
Lathiatyeh thats because its breaking apps using libstdc++5 right07:27
Lathiatcus it links to stdc++6 and is preloaded07:27
minghuaYagisan: what Lathiat said07:27
Lathiatnot sure if theres really any way around that07:27
minghuaYagisan: use GTK_IM_IMMODULE=xim to work around it07:28
minghuaLathiat: there is. :-)07:28
Yagisandidn't help :(07:28
Yagisanjust a sec, I'll see if I can find my malone bug07:28
minghuaI've never used uim though, I only know uim also has GTK immodule, so this is just guessing07:29
UbugtuMalone bug #3187: Amule fails to start after installing Japanese input support Fix req. for: amule (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/318707:29
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Yagisanbut I get that in other apps too. Is that because of libstdc++5 ?07:30
YagisanWhat's ubugtu ?07:31
crimsunit's a bot that retrieves bugzilla and malone info07:31
crimsunyou've already seen it in action, so I don't need to trigger it again07:31
Yagisancrimsun: Can I get it to do that without knowing my bug number ?07:32
minghuaYagisan: Hmm, it may not be the same bug, as the backtrace doesn't seem to involve libstdc++07:32
Yagisanminghua: breaks sun java too, but that's not too important07:33
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crimsunUbugtu xastir07:33
minghuaYagisan: but if the apps you are talking are acroread 7, firefox/mozilla from mozilla.org, then it's 99% the libstdc++ mismatch bug07:33
crimsunYagisan: I don't think so, but I don't know.07:33
minghuaI suppose Java mean's Sun's java, then add it to the above list07:33
Yagisanminghua: nope, with exception of sun java, and my deng work - all my apps are in the ubuntu repos07:33
minghuaStrange.  I suppose nothing in breezy links to libstdc++5, right?07:34
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Yagisanminghua: some things do07:35
Yagisanminghua: but I don't have libstdc++5 installed07:35
minghuaYagisan: oh, okay, if you don't have libstdc++ 5 then forget about it07:36
Yagisanminghua: "apt-cache rdepends libstdc++5" gives a rather long list07:36
minghuaYagisan: out of curiousity, is synaptic in it?07:37
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Yagisanminghua: no, not hat I can see07:38
minghuaHmm, so uim is not that robust in breezy either07:38
minghuaYagisan: yeah, maybe you should try the ubuntu-ja packages then07:39
Yagisanminghua: OK, I'll prepare for a recursive wget, and feed it all into my pbuilder. Then change to scim and see what happens07:40
Yagisanminghua: I'm sure they will love me for it O:-)07:40
minghuaYagisan: the ubuntu-ja people don't have uim?07:41
Yagisanminghua: need to check the repo again07:41
Yagisanminghua: nope - they seem to have gone with a scim-prime setup07:42
minghuamy Japanese is apparently not good enough to find the ubuntu-ja archive though google07:42
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Yagisanminghua: http://www.ubuntulinux.jp/download/07:43
Yagisanminghua: my Japanese is pretty crap actually.07:44
minghuaYagisan: yeah you are right, they don't have uim07:47
minghuawhich surprises me a bit07:48
minghuaYagisan: so what IM are you using?  Anthy?07:48
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Yagisanminghua: right now uim, I tried scim on breezy, but it didn't work07:48
Yagisanminghua: uim-anthy07:49
minghuaYagisan: okay, then use the scim-anthy in ubuntu-ja, you should feel at home07:49
Yagisanminghua: yourself ?07:49
minghuaYagisan: no I don't speak Japanese at all :-)  I use scim-pinyin07:49
Yagisanminghua: honestly, as long as the IM is consistent in Gnome, KDE, and the console, I don't care what I use07:50
Yagisanminghua: my goal is to set it up as easy as the Win2K IM07:50
Yagisanminghua: which is what my users compare it too07:50
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Yagisanminghua: are you using breezys scim ?07:52
minghuaYagisan: no, I still use hoary07:53
minghuaand a dapper chroot if that matters07:54
minghuaYagisan: you are probably going to be disappointed when you find out that scim doesn't work in console07:55
minghuaIMO the IMs in linux still have a long way to go compared with Win2K IM07:56
Yagisanminghua: hmm, it may be hard to do this then " cd projects//my_packages"07:57
minghuaYagisan: do it in an X terminal :-)07:57
Yagisanminghua: that probably reads something like sheep for you doesn't it ?07:58
minghuain Chinese that's goat-something07:59
Yagisanminghua: cool, you are the first Chinese speaker that has read that back as goat to me :)08:00
minghuaI can only recognize the kanjis, not the hiraganas08:00
Yagisanminghua: It's Mr Goat :) or in romaji Yagisan08:00
minghuaso "Yagi" is goat, I see08:01
Yagisanminghua: yep, I must have reminded my wife of one08:02
minghuaIn chinese goat and sheep are quite similar, not much metapohric meanings08:02
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Yagisanminghua: that may explain why people say it is "mountain sheep"08:03
minghuabut I suppose it's a little bit different in English, although I'm not exactly how08:03
Yagisanminghua: Well, apparently I act somewhat like one, and when unshaven look like one08:04
minghuaYagisan: Ha.  So you didn't know "mountain sheep" means "goat"?08:04
Yagisanminghua: maybe I'm a literal person, but mountain sheep look different to goats08:06
minghuaYagisan: the character "" is literally "mountain", both in Chinese and Japanese (I believe)08:06
Yagisanminghua: yes it is08:07
minghuato be fair, though, "" means not only sheep in Chinese08:07
Yagisanminghua: yes, but by itself, that is hitsuji - sheep08:07
Yagisanminghua: or as I refer to them - lamb cutlets :-P08:08
minghuait's just the *cough* stupid *cough* English has a word for each gender for animals :-P08:08
minghuaah, you reminded me, add a new word for each type of meat, too08:09
Yagisanminghua: hey, some languages use different words depending on if the speaker is male or female08:09
minghuaYagisan: that I have no problem with, but English is not a language with gender after all08:10
Yagisanminghua: apparently my Japanese sounds like a woman Japanese, I wonder why O:-)08:10
Yagisanminghua: so would you like lamb or mutton, when you visit the sheep and goat farm. Avoid the rams, and pat the ewes :)08:12
minghuaOuch!  Apparently my vocabulary isn't that great either08:13
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Yagisanminghua: mutton is meat from an old sheep08:13
Yagisanminghua: ewe is a female sheep08:13
Yagisanminghua: sorry - I tried to see how many different words I could find for essentially the same thing08:14
minghuaYagisan: thanks.08:14
crimsunmore library name changes - ANOTHER cxx transition08:14
crimsun(thankfully it's nowhere as invasive)08:15
crimsunoh whew, this is the d-d-a mail :-)08:15
minghuaat least this time it will be synchronous with debian08:15
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minghuaI wonder how long will it take to have the new gcc build on all Debian arches08:18
Yagisanback soon - going out shopping08:19
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Victorwhat is the difference between 'ubuntu maintainers' ,'ubuntu developer' and 'ubuntu members'?08:34
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BurgundaviaVictor, ubuntu members are people who have been approved by the community council. To become a member, you must simply do something for Ubuntu or be active int eh community. You don't need to be a developer08:37
VictorIs the leader of each team appointed by community council or self-appointed?08:37
VictorIf want to be a member,membership need to be appointed. maintainers need to be appointed,too?08:37
Burgundaviano idea08:38
Burgundaviamain and universe uploaders need to be approved by the Technical board08:38
Burgundaviathey must already be ubuntu memebers08:38
VictorYou mean other maintainer except main and universe uploaders need not to be approved?08:40
Burgundaviathose are the only maintainers08:41
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Burgundavianot that main also means you can upload to restricted and universe also means multiverse08:41
mr-russVictor: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU  will tell you about how to become a member.08:42
Victorwhat does 's/not/note' mean?08:43
BurgundaviaI made a typing mistake08:43
Burgundaviait means replace "not" with "note"08:43
Burgundaviathe context is s(earch for)/(a string)/(and replace it with this string)08:44
mr-russvi syntax.08:44
VictorI see.thanks08:45
NafalloI would rather call it regex :-)08:45
YagisanIt's sed :)08:46
zakames#regex#regular expression#  # this is a comment08:46
VictorWho is the chairman to Community Council now?sabdfl?08:46
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VictorHow many kinds of role are there in our community?maintainer,developer,and ......08:51
crimsun"you can be anything you want to be"08:51
zakamecrimsun: indeed08:52
VictorYes.What I want to know is roles defined clearly by community.For example,maintainer,developer and so on.And the two roles need to be appointed.08:54
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Victorthat is to say,both developer  and maintainer ,the two role,need to be appointed by Technical board?08:58
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janimoanybody want to revu thunar? thanks09:01
Victorin the webpage http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/techboard,I find:  Appointments to the board are made by Mark Shuttleworth subject to confirmation by a vote amongst the maintainers.  developers couldn't vote?09:05
Lathiati beleive its all members09:07
Lathiatbut not sure09:07
Nafallonope. it's everyone in the launchpad group ubuntu-dev09:09
Nafallofor cc it's ubuntu-members09:09
Nafallois there a difference between maintainer and developer in this case?09:11
schweebVictor: there's a pretty clear list on the wiki09:11
Victorschweeb:Would you please tell me the detailed link?09:13
VictorNafallo:I want to know,too. :)09:13
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Nafallowhat's the subject? who is in each team?09:13
Nafallohttps://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-[members,dev] 09:14
schweebhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/ read all the subpages... it usually tells you who can vote for what, etc...09:14
schweeband TB approval includes all members, afaik09:14
Nafallomaintainer = packager, developer = codemonkey. in that case there is no diffrence in Ubuntu AFAIK.09:15
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schweebthe term "developer" may be more aimed at maintainers for main, those who affect main09:15
Nafalloschweeb: no, -dev. CC includes all members.09:15
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Nafallothat's core developers09:16
Nafallonot developers :-)09:16
Nafallolaunchpad makes this distinction.09:16
Lathiatreally should just be "member" shouldnt it?09:16
Lathiatbecause ubuntu members are generallyu such people09:16
Lathiatthat contribute09:16
Nafallowhat should just be "member"?09:17
slomo_hi Nafallo09:17
Nafallomorning slomo :-)09:17
slomo_Nafallo: did you compile 2.6.15 by hand already? :P09:18
Nafalloslomo: naah, I'm lazy.09:18
Nafallothought you knew that? ;-)09:18
slomo_btw, do you want something new to package?09:19
slomo_against your lazyness :P09:19
Nafallonot now. I got load on the system ;-).09:19
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polpakNafallo, is the nvidia-cg-toolkit already in Dapper universe?09:20
Nafalloafter those DVD-Rs are about I may :-)09:20
Victor in the webpage http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/council,it wrote:The Chairman of the Community Council is yet to be determined.Isn't sabdfl our chairman?09:20
NafalloW: Unable to locate package nvidia-cg-toolkit09:20
NafalloE: No packages found09:20
polpakHrm.. We talked yesterday and you said you built ogre-1.0.5, but I'm pretty sure the cg toolkit is a dependancy09:21
NafalloI'm pretty sure it is not :-)09:21
polpakWhat options did you use to configure the build for ogre?09:22
crimsunjanimo: getting there eventually, just need to finish office stuff09:22
Nafallosame as debian09:23
polpakI can't see on that page what options are used.09:25
Nafallonope, but you download the .diff.gz09:25
Nafallo(diff, our changes against the tarball)09:26
janimocrimsun, ok thanks09:26
janimojust maybe others want to contrib as we need 2 votes09:27
polpakthe tarball is the original source for ogre?09:27
polpakBleh, I stand corrected09:28
polpakNow to hope and pray it gets backported soon =)09:29
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lucasajmitch_: you around ?10:43
lucas\sh: hi10:43
lucasI saw you started working on some tools for motu10:43
sivang\sh and siretart and bmonty_laptop were working on it yesterday, I think10:43
lucasI think we should work on something bigger, including other scripts too10:44
lucasajmitch_ said he already had some of those scripts himself, and he would release them10:45
\shlucas: when he's back home he will do it10:48
siretarthi folks10:48
siretarthi lucas10:49
\shmoins siretart10:49
siretartlucas: have you already seen \sh and my motu-tools bzr repository?10:49
siretarthuhu \sh!10:49
lucasyes, saw that10:50
slomo_hi siretart, \sh and everybody else ;)10:50
lucasbut I think other scripts are needed too10:50
siretartlucas: of course, just write them ;)10:50
lucasyes, I already did for some of them10:50
lucasbut the problem is : maybe we did some synchronization ;)10:51
\shlucas: where  are they so we can have a look?10:51
lucasnot public yet10:52
lucasbut I'll work on that today10:52
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slomo_hi dholbach11:06
dholbachhey slomo11:06
siretartsalute daniel!11:07
dholbachhi siretart11:07
lucas\sh: what did you use to write the ChangeLog in motu-tools ?11:09
lucasjust plain text editor ?11:09
\shlucas: emacs11:10
lucas\sh: we could maintain this as a native debian package and use debian/changelog11:11
\shlucas: no11:11
\shupstream and debian/dir will be different things...11:12
lucasthey don't need to11:12
lucaswhy should they ?11:12
\shlucas: they will11:12
\shlucas: because we will provide some other tools for motus and mains which are not debian related11:14
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lucasfor example ?11:14
\shlucas: some tools are launchpad related, others are using only dpkg or other tools, or smart which is also not debian related11:14
\shlucas: lpbugs.py has nothing to do with debian or ubuntu...it can be used for everything which is in launchpad11:15
lucasthen maybe "motu-tools" is not a good name ;)11:15
\shlucas: well...think about dapper +111:15
lucasI haven't read the whole thread about dapper+1 RM11:16
\shlucas: when there is smart coming...smart is the ultimative tool for AAAALLLL package based distros...even rpm based ones11:16
\shreal work11:17
lucashaven't heard of it11:17
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juliux(herzi) dholbach: ping11:27
dholbachjuliux/herzi: pong11:28
juliux(herzi) dholbach: libgoffice-1-dev needs to depend on libgnomeoffice2.2-dev11:28
juliux(herzi) dholbach: libgoffice-1-dev needs to depend on libgnomeprint2.2-dev11:28
juliuxcan you fix it please?11:29
dholbachdon't worry, i'll look into it later11:30
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\shI had to fight now with the county administration of northrhine westfalia..because of my blogweb.de11:44
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Seveas\sh, why?11:58
TreenaksSeveas: Police State Germany?11:59
sivang\sh: why so? what did they want from you?12:00
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\shsiretart: because my imprint wasn't correct, but this was only one thing to get hold of another guy, which has a blog about security and privacy worldwide..and someone called those guys anonymously to denunciate me and my friend12:19
\shoh sivang i mean12:19
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\shactually I asked those guys, if we have again the 3rd reich12:20
zyga_minihello folks12:20
StrikeForcecan someone tell me where the gpl shortened version for the copyright file is located?12:21
Treenaksin the large version of the GPL :)12:21
Treenaksoh wait12:21
StrikeForceI remember seeing a section of whats needed to be added because the license is included with ubuntu12:22
StrikeForcelike not the whole version but just some paragraphs12:22
StrikeForcethanks :)12:23
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StrikeForcethat strace script thats in the debian maintainers guide those deps are build deps only right?12:48
dholbachStrikeForce: hm?12:48
StrikeForcedholbach: do you know the one I'm talking about?12:49
dholbachno, i'm absolutely not sure, what you're talking about :)12:49
StrikeForcedholbach, http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-dreq.en.html#s-copyright12:49
dholbachsorry :)12:49
StrikeForcethe 2nd bunch of code is the strace script it 'finds' deps12:50
StrikeForcehowever some of those deps from what I can see are in the base ubuntu and kubuntu packages12:50
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lucas\sh and others: I've added my scripts to motu-tools01:02
lucassee http://ox.blop.info/bazaar/motu-tools/01:02
lucas(you can bzr branch/merge too)01:02
lucasexample output for ruby packages here :01:05
\shwhy ruby...why not python :)01:06
slomo_lucas: how does your script get the packages to look at? i.e. in this case the ruby ones? i want such thing for the mono stuff :P01:07
lucasbecause I'm in MOTURuby ;)01:07
lucassee the first url01:07
slomo_lucas: thanks :) good work01:08
lucassladen: README.lucas details the steps to get to the HTML output01:08
slomo_lucas: i'm not sladen :P01:09
slomo_np :)01:10
slomo_that happens to everybody ;)01:10
slomo_lucas: i'll test it with mono stuff this evening and report any problems to you ;)01:11
lucasthere's a problem with dpkg --compareversions01:11
lucassee alexandria in the output ?01:12
lucasI'll try to fix this now01:12
slomo_btw, please add a link to the debian qa page01:13
lucas# TODO/Bugs01:13
lucas# - improve rendering01:13
lucas# - add links to all relevant sources of info01:13
slomo_makes work much easier :)01:13
slomo_ok =)01:13
slomo_siretart: oh no... marillat made the mplayer versioning wrong :( 1.0-pre7cvsxxxxxxxx is treated greater than 1.0 by dpkg....01:16
slomo_siretart: bbl01:17
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StrikeForcedholbach, did you have a look at that strace?01:23
dholbachStrikeForce: looks interesting01:25
dholbachStrikeForce: i usually just have a look at configure.{ac,in}01:25
dholbachStrikeForce: and build it in pbuilder, so i can make sure, that it builds in a clean environment01:25
StrikeForcemy concern is running deps?01:25
StrikeForcealthough I don't think there are any01:26
StrikeForcesince I can find 0 documentation on it01:26
dholbachrunning deps?01:26
dholbachyou mean dependencies instead of build-dependencies01:26
dholbachah right01:26
dholbachwell usually, you just "expand" them01:26
StrikeForceyep ok01:26
dholbach{shlibs:Depends} gives you those01:26
StrikeForceI ahve that already :)01:26
dholbach(in a case, where you compile a C or C++ package)01:27
StrikeForcebut it listed like gcc401:27
dholbachi shouldnt think so01:27
StrikeForcebut yeah I'll try and cut it short01:27
dholbachit explicitly listed gcc4 afterwards?01:27
dholbachas a dependency?01:27
StrikeForcenot for depends01:27
StrikeForceIts ok I'm confusing the situation01:28
dholbachbuild-essential should give you a c compiler, so you wouldnt need it as a build-dep01:28
dholbachnormally you just need {shlibs:Depends}, {python:Depends} or {perl:Depends}01:28
StrikeForcehow would I find using dpkg what is listed as deps of build-deps01:28
dholbachsomtimes {misc:Depends}01:28
StrikeForcee.g. build-essentials deps01:29
StrikeForceso I /might/ not need to add to many deps01:29
dholbachapt-cache show build-essential | grpe Depends?01:29
StrikeForceyep no worries thanks01:29
StrikeForceshould have it uploaded later01:29
StrikeForcebtw how long usually does it take to get a package checked out?01:30
Nafallowhat's up with unrar-nonfree?01:30
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lucasslomo: any other urls to include on the report page ?01:40
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lucasI added some links and changed the color so it's easier to read02:05
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zakameNafallo: many thanks :)02:10
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Nafallozakame: np :-)02:13
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StrikeForceDo you think it would be ok to add an override for this error W: cue2toc: description-synopsis-might-not-be-phrased-properly02:22
zakamewhat's the description synopsis?02:23
StrikeForcezakame, A program that will convert CUE files to cdrdao's TOC format.02:23
zakameStrikeForce: ah :) just remove the `A program that will' part and it will fit just fine :)02:24
StrikeForcekk :)02:24
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StrikeForcezakame, unfortunately the error is still there from lintian02:26
StrikeForcezakame, Description: convert CUE files to cdrdao's TOC format02:26
zakameStrikeForce: have you rebuilt?02:27
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StrikeForcebut I had a '.' at the end02:27
StrikeForcetook that away and it works now02:27
zakameah, that's another one02:27
StrikeForceall fine now02:27
zakamewtg :)02:28
StrikeForceand uploaded now package 3 done :)02:28
StrikeForcenow all I have to do is coerce someone into checking em :)02:29
zakameto revu?02:29
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zakamehi ogra02:32
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StrikeForcezakame, I'm trying to compile a program and it can't find gtk2?02:45
zakameStrikeForce: do you have libgtk2.0-dev installed?02:45
StrikeForcedoh not the dev package :(02:46
StrikeForceits ok I'll install now02:46
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zakameno prob :)02:46
StrikeForcethanks for the help :)02:47
zakamenow, my turn to pose a q: if I see a `package-name-doesnt-match-sonames' error for a package which is not a lib pkg, should I fix this?02:49
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KyralAre you trying to compile FlowDesigner by any chance?02:51
zakamenope, this is for gpsd02:52
Kyrallol okay02:52
KyralI get the same error with FlowDesigner02:52
zakamelet me look at the diff02:54
zakameKyral: is this a NEW package?02:55
Kyralin REVU02:56
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sistpotyhi folks02:58
zakameheya sistpoty :)02:59
Kyralwhee minor breakage :D03:00
zakamejust uploaded libmemcache to revu, can any motu please check it? :)03:00
zakamesiretart: ping, can you re-add my updated key to the revu keyring? :)03:03
siretartzakame: which keyid?03:04
sistpotyhuhu siretart03:04
siretarthuhu sistpoty03:05
siretartsistpoty: if you look in my public html, I have created a MergeWebTool branch, there is a oneline to be merged ;)03:05
Kyralhplip-base is broken. Depending on 0.9.5-2ubuntu2 of hplip-data, hplip-data is at 0.9.6-1ubuntu103:05
sistpotysiretart: will check03:05
zakamesiretart: 0xFA53851D .  I added a new uid for my @ubuntu.com address, and I want to use that now for the revu login03:05
siretartzakame: then I don't need to do anything03:06
siretartzakame: just upload something with that emailadress in the Changed-By field (email in debian/changelog)03:06
sistpotysiretart: bzr merge <pathtoyourrepo>? or bzr pull <pathtoyourrepo>?03:06
siretartsistpoty: merge03:06
sistpotysiretart: k, thx03:06
siretartworks also over http, btw03:06
zakamesiretart: just did, but when I try to login with it, fails... when trying to recover, I could not get the gpg encrypted output03:07
siretartzakame: okay, I just updated your key, retry please03:08
zakamesiretart: there, got the pgp message, thanks :)03:08
siretartokay :)03:09
siretart.oO( one more reason to work more on revu2, ... I'm still working on the infrastructure... )03:10
zakamehehe :) salamat :D03:10
sistpotysiretart: merged your change and also pulled to MoM ;)03:11
siretartsistpoty: :)03:11
siretartsistpoty: have you/we solved the problem with having to reload apache on file changes?03:12
sistpotysiretart: no, unfortunately I haven't :( (i just restarted apache2)03:12
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zakamehmm where can I read more on dpatch? tseng's site doesn't seem to be up03:28
siretartzakame: look at packages already using dpatch03:32
zakamesiretart: ok :)03:34
lucasquestion about MOTU management : when a package is once uploaded with an ubuntu-specific version number ("ubuntu1" appended to the version string), a changelog entry is added.03:38
lucasthen, when all the ubuntu-specific changes are merged into debian, we could use the debian package directly in ubuntu03:38
zakameof course03:38
lucasbut since we have to keep that changelog entry, we still need to have that ubuntu-specific version number03:38
lucasright ?03:39
lucasor the "ubuntu1" part can be dropped during the upload after we resynchronize with debian ?03:39
lucas(but we loose the changelog entry then)03:40
sistpotylucas: if we can use the debian version, we take it (and thus loose the ubuntu-changelog-entry). Otherwise we'd need to merge these packages next time again03:41
siretartlucas: this means: if the debian maintainer chooses not to take our ubuntu changelog entrys, we accept that03:42
siretartlucas: is your motu-tools repository/package/whatever publicy viewable?03:42
lucassiretart: yes, I sent a mail to ubuntu-devel about it03:43
lucaswhat about this bug then :03:43
UbugtuMalone bug #4052: alexandria: merge new debian version Fix req. for: alexandria (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU, Status: Fixed http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/405203:43
lucas\sh said it was ok to use the debian package directly03:44
lucasbut in the archive, there's an ubuntu-specific version03:44
siretartlucas: is http://ox.blop.info/bazaar/motu-tools/ an bzr archive?03:45
lucasyou can bzr branch it03:45
siretartstrange. then i have a local config problem03:46
siretartbzr: ERROR: HTTP Error 403: Forbidden03:46
lucasshould be fixed now03:46
StrikeForcesiretart, for some reason I can't find cue2toc in REVU even though I uploaded it?03:49
siretartlucas: works now, thanks03:49
siretartStrikeForce: checking03:49
StrikeForcethanks :)03:49
siretartStrikeForce: because you did an binary upload, which is useless for revu03:49
zakameStrikeForce: build your package via dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot03:50
siretartStrikeForce: please do sourceful uploads only (and always with full source, i.e. with orig.tar.gz)03:50
StrikeForcesiretart, hmmm I'm sure I did that the right way :(03:50
StrikeForceok I'll re-do my apologies03:50
zakamesiretart: I notice some of the uploads also contain both source and binary uploads...03:50
siretartzakame: I changed process_uploads.py to ignore non sourceful changes files03:51
zakamesiretart: cool :)03:52
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siretartI need to work on something to send ACCEPTED/REJECTED emails03:52
StrikeForceso once thats done I just dput the changes file?03:52
StrikeForcebecause you'll build it up on the server?03:52
siretartStrikeForce: the *_source.changes file, yes03:52
siretartNOT the *_i386.changes file.03:52
StrikeForcesiretart, ok I'll do that now if I've stuffed up give us a yell :)03:53
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StrikeForcesiretart, did you want me to re-upload my previous packages that haven't been approved in that format?03:56
siretartStrikeForce: yes, I deleted your old upload, since it did not include full source03:56
StrikeForcesiretart, ok but I'm referring to rufus and also browser-bookmark-menu as well though03:57
siretartdidn't check that yet, mom03:57
siretartStrikeForce: they include fill source as well as binaries. thats not that bad. no need to reupload.03:58
StrikeForcesiretart, ok thanks I'll remember that for the future thanks for the heads up :)03:58
siretartStrikeForce: cheers! :)03:58
StrikeForceI signed the code of conduct through launchpad however it says the key is not registered with launchpad click this link yet the link is dead?04:06
zakameslomo: ping, can you please check Malone #4089, I remember you told me that gpsd can't be synced04:15
UbugtuError: Could not parse XML returned by Malone bugzilla: Connection to Malone bugzilla failed: HTTP Error 404: Not Found04:15
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StrikeForcehello ajmitch :)04:22
lfittlAny motu here who has time to review something on revu? (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=931)04:25
\shsiretart: grmpf04:26
\shsiretart: u uploaded alexandria with ubuntu dude....04:27
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siretart\sh: sorry?04:41
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\shsiretart: debian dropped everything :)04:48
\shdoesn't matter04:48
\shFRESH HOT BEATYFUL !!! 300 i386 Breezy CDs just hit ISH04:48
\sh50 PPC and 50 AMD04:48
\shas well04:48
Treenaks300ish ;)04:49
\shhehe...I just spread Ubuntu Breezy to all the people here...04:50
\sheven management wants to have breezy on their laptop (at least on of our managers)04:50
Gazerslomo, Hi, yerteday I fix my package (http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=925), tell me if you detect some other error.04:51
Treenaks\sh: cool!04:51
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lfittlsiretart: Please build libloki (#931) in revu, thanks04:56
hunger_How do I package python stuff?04:56
hunger_Do I need a python-sth deb that depends on a python2.4-sth deb with the code?04:57
hunger_Or can I get away with one python-sth deb with the code?04:57
\shhunger: the first arrangement...a default package with deps on python2.404:59
\shhunger: the first arrangement...a default package with deps on python2.4-smt04:59
hunger_\sh: Thanks.04:59
hunger_\sh: Do I need to do "Provides" magic?05:00
zakamehmmm, is pbbuttonsd-dev missing?05:00
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hunger_\sh: How do I handle python-sthdepending on python-sth2?05:03
hunger_\sh: python-sth depends on python2.4-sth and python-sth2 and python-sth2 depending on python2.4-sth2?05:04
hunger_Does the python2.4-sth dep need to depend on python2.4-sth2?05:04
\shhunger_: aeh05:11
\shhunger_: is python2.4-sth2 replacing/conflicting python2.4-sth?05:12
hunger_\sh: No.05:12
\shor other way to ask...what is the difference between sth and sth2?05:12
hunger_One is the lowlevel C bindingish stuff and the other the python magic build around it.05:12
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hunger_\sh: I had to split them apart to stop lintian complaining:-(05:13
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\shhunger_: hum?05:14
hunger_\sh: lintian didn't like having binaries in a python archive or so I understood the message it gave.05:15
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\shhunger_: binaries?05:16
hunger_\sh: Some wrapper C-code to turn C libs into proper python citizens.05:17
hunger_\sh: Needs python-dev and the C lib dev stuff to build and exports some C functions from those libs to python apps.05:17
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\shhunger_: so it's not like python-apt e.g. where the .so is build and this is the interface to python?05:18
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\shhunger_: which software are u talking about? lets have a look05:19
hunger_\sh: There is that part, but there is a whole layer of python functionality build atop of.05:19
hunger_\sh: Xen.05:19
hunger_\sh: Check revu... the version there is sopmewhat outdated, but has python-xen and python-xen-lowlevel.05:19
siretartlfittl: please ask someone else, I'm currently at work and cannot upload05:20
hunger_\sh: ... which I now need to rename to python2.4-* with some python-* added.05:20
hunger_Hi siretart.05:20
siretarthuhu hunger_05:20
hunger_siretart: Packaging would be soooo easy without having to follow that damn policy! ;-)05:21
raphinkand the system would be so trashy, too ;)05:21
dholbachhunger_: autodeb :)05:21
hunger_\sh: Sounds about right...05:22
hunger_\sh: Yes, that's it!05:22
hunger_\sh: I am wondering about the python-xen and python-xen-lowlevel debs right now.05:23
ogradholbach, switching the universe o autodeb ? :)05:24
siretarthunger_: I know ;)05:24
dholbachogra: yeah, i start uploading in some minutes05:24
siretarthunger_: but it is way easier to maintain conforming packages. and thats what we are about: maintenance and support for packages05:24
\shhunger_: if u build http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/xen-0511131225/xen-3.0pre20051113/tools/python/ manually via setup.py...the setup.py should create an .so interface file...which is actually the python class05:24
hunger_dholbach: If upstream had a decent build system things would be somewhat easier.05:25
siretartwhat is autodeb?05:25
dholbachsiretart: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Autodeb05:25
ograsiretart, the suck ...05:25
\shhunger_: and this .so file u put into /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/ directly05:25
dholbachhunger_: send upstream a patch :)05:25
ogra(sorry for my french)05:25
hunger_dholbach: I already send 5 of them upsteam just to fix "make clean"05:25
\shhunger_: check apt-get source python-apt05:25
siretartthis is designed to break, is it?05:26
hunger_dholbach: I even volunteered to rewrite the complete buildsystem a while back... but they are not interessted.05:26
\shif u have to fix make clean from upstream....DON'T USE IT...they actually don't know what they're doing ;)05:26
hunger_dholbach: Next step: Find out why "make distclean" creates files (which forces me to run make clean after make distclean to get rid of them again!)05:26
dholbachat least you seem to have fun :)05:27
\sh"make clean\n -> make: running rm -Rvf /05:27
siretartand incredible pain patching broken upstream build systems :)05:27
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hunger_\sh: Building the stuff is not the problem... How do I have to do the dependencies?05:29
\shhunger_: u should have only one package at all....with the meta package python-xen which depends on python2.4-xen05:29
\shu will have two...05:29
\shhunger_: setup.py normally deals as well with C interfaces for python classes05:30
hunger_\sh: lintian didn't like me throwing both of them into one deb.05:30
\shand builds them properly...that's why I asked if u ever builded python-xen manually05:30
\shhunger_: check python-apt05:30
hunger_\sh: I will once I get proper net access:-(05:30
\shhunger_: are u using dh_python?05:36
hunger_\sh: Yes.05:36
\shhunger_: but not in binary-indep05:37
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hunger_\sh: There is no pyhon stuff build in indep.05:37
\shoh sorry..05:37
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hunger_\sh: I removed python*-xen-lowlevel now. Let's see what lintian has to say about this change.05:39
slomolucas: MoM page if existing maybe05:39
hunger_That makes all the python code arch dependent of course.05:39
\shhunger_: thats why u should use indep :)05:40
\shand dep05:40
lucasslomo: does the fact that it exists (or not) add a useful information ?05:40
hunger_\sh: I can't since the .so files aren't.05:40
lucasit isn't easy to check that MoM pages exist05:40
slomolucas: hmm, don't show if it exists or not... but give a link to it if it exists ;) check for a 404 ;)05:41
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\shhunger_: believe me :)05:41
\shhunger_: check python-apt...they are doing it just like this...read the rules file :)05:42
hunger_\sh: I will as soon as I get a net connection again.05:42
hunger_\sh: I'll shut up now till I did:-)05:42
lucasslomo: mmh05:43
\shhunger_: so before u try and break something...check first :)05:43
lucaswhen there are lots of pkgs, it won't be fast05:43
slomolucas: hmm, ok, then don't do it :)05:43
hunger_\sh: It is only my local stuff that I break. It is not as if I had users;-)05:44
\shlucas: what do u want to do?05:44
\shhunger_: ok...:)05:44
hunger_OK, have to run. I might be back later!05:44
lucas\sh: see my mail on ubuntu-devel about motu-tools pkg05:44
lucasslomo: I'll add it to my todo list05:45
slomook, thanks... can you give me the url again? i get a mono list working then :)05:46
\shlucas: i answered05:51
lucasslomo:  http://ox.blop.info/bazaar/motu-tools/05:52
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\shgoing home05:54
\shcu later05:54
slomolucas: thanks05:54
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slomolucas: small cosmetical suggestion... add somewhere that apt-rdepends is needed :)06:01
lucaswell that's why I was talking about a package ;)06:03
lucas./debianubuntuversions.bash |./filterlist.bash <(./pkglist_from_rdepends.bash libruby1.8 |./binarytosource.bash) |./debianubuntuversions-list2html.rb > duv-ruby.html06:05
lucasslomo: use this and remplace libruby1.8 with what you need06:05
slomolucas: already done... well, i'm waiting for the download to finish but otherwise it's fine ;)06:06
slomoNow, generating mixed list...06:06
slomouniq: Ungltige Option -- W06:06
slomoUngltige Option == invalid option06:06
lucas$ uniq --version06:07
lucasuniq (coreutils) 5.2.106:07
lucasyou aren't running ubuntu are you ? :-)06:07
slomouniq (GNU coreutils) 5.9306:08
slomothat's dapper ;)06:08
lucas       -W, --check-fields=N06:09
lucas              compare no more than N fields in lines06:09
slomowhat is -W doing?06:09
slomoit's -w now06:09
lucasno, that's --check-chars06:09
slomooh no06:09
slomothere is no -W anymore :P06:09
lucasno --check-fields ??06:09
lucasthat's what I dislike in shell scripts06:11
ograslomo, 2.93 is ancient ...06:11
ograerr 5.9306:11
lucasyou always end in a wall06:11
ogradpkg --compare-versions 5.93 lt 5.2.1 || echo true06:12
lucasok, I'll rewrite it with awk06:12
ograslomo, 5.2.1 is the current version ...06:12
slomoogra: err no... definitly not... look at the coreutils changelog06:12
slomoogra: 5.2.1 is from jul, 5.93 from november06:13
ogracoreutils (5.2.1-2.1ubuntu1) dapper; urgency=low06:14
lucasWhat you are seeing with the -W option in Debian is a distribution06:14
lucasspecific patch to the code to provide that option and associated06:14
lucasfunctionality.  It is not in the upstream GNU coreutils.06:14
ogra -- Charles Majola <charles@ubuntu.com>  Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:50:31 +000006:14
lucasso ubuntu packaged 5.93 but dropped the patch06:14
slomoogra: hum...06:14
slomoogra: coreutils (5.93-2) unstable; urgency=low06:14
slomoogra:  -- Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org>  Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:28:53 -050006:14
slomothat's mine06:14
slomoi only have dapper sources, no debian ones...06:15
ograslomo, drop the debian sources then ;)06:15
slomowe have unstable also in packages synced from unstable06:15
slomoAccepted coreutils 5.93-2 (source)06:15
slomoDate: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:35:03 +0000 (GMT)  (14:35 CET)06:16
slomothat's on dapper-changes06:16
ograah, yes06:16
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ograand charles merged the other packge yesterday it seems06:16
ogracommunication breakdown ?06:17
lucas   * Remove some ancient debian-specific patches06:17
lucas     - install no longer calls strip with special options06:17
lucas     - no more --reversible option to cat06:17
lucas     - no more --first-eof option to paste06:17
lucas     - no more field seperator option to uniq06:17
lucasin  coreutils (5.93-1) unstable; urgency=low06:17
lucas(upload to debian)06:17
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lucasso I have to live with it06:17
LaserJocklucas: I love your new motu-tools scripts06:19
LaserJockI have been working on something like this for the MOTUScience team06:19
lucasLaserJock: thanks :-)06:20
lucasdon't hesitate to send patches06:20
LaserJockI like the html output, that is what I have been struggling with, how to put the output in a good form06:20
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slomoogra: "dpkg --compare-versions 5.93 lt 5.2.1 || echo true" <--- are you sure this is correct? shouldn't it be gt or &&?06:21
lucasawk 'BEGIN { s = "" } { if ($1 != s) { print $0 ; s = $1} }'06:21
lucasuniq in awk06:21
lucaswith -W 106:21
ograi will echo true if the operator is right06:22
lucasnearly readable06:22
minghuahi, anybody know why grace and grace6 are still labelled unassigned on revu's MoM page?06:22
ograslomo, but i might be wrong ...06:22
LaserJockminghua: did you change their status to fixed?06:22
minghuaI picked them up and filed malone bug according to the instructions06:23
slomoogra: it will echo true if everything before failed afaik... that's what || is for06:23
minghuaLaserJock: no, I left them as new06:23
ograslomo, err, yes && would be more appropriate06:23
LaserJockminghua: nevermind, I was thinking you were asking about it not being in the "Done" list06:24
minghuabut I did assign them to MOTU merge team06:24
slomolucas: can you tell me when you've added it to your bzr branch?06:24
lucasslomo: just checking that it works06:24
minghuaLaserJock: okay :-)  I'll wait for more informed people to answer then06:25
LaserJockminghua: that's not hard to find ;-)06:26
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slomoNafallo_away: kernel built at least on ppc :) we can start breaking our machines now ;)06:27
lucasslomo: you can bzr merge now06:27
slomolucas: done :)06:28
slomolucas: i need to remember you... you can do awk magic :)06:28
slomohmm, my dapper pbuilder is broken... can someone verify this?06:30
ograslomo, was this a silent offer to everyone here to get ssh access to your box for verification purpose ? :)06:32
slomoogra: lol no... but does someone else have this problem? :P it can't find /etc/shadow for some reason06:32
ograhmm, i didnt update mine for 2 days ....06:32
dholbachslomo: same here06:33
ograheh, so i'll keep away from updating :)06:33
slomohehe... but i need the new openssl and libextractor :(06:33
jamessan|workslomo: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=33897606:36
slomojamessan|work: thanks, i'll try it06:37
slomolucas: filterlist fails... it lists gtk-engines-mono but shouldn't list it06:38
slomoevery other result is ok06:39
lucascan you put your input file and your filter list swhere ?06:39
jamessan|workogra: if you already have a basetgz built, it should be fine.  I've only seen the problem when creating new ones06:39
slomolucas: sure... but i expect it to be a problem with grepping for "mono" (which is in my input file)06:40
lucasok, but I'm supposed to grep -w06:40
lucas(for words)06:41
lucas$ echo gtk-engines-mono |grep -w mono06:41
lucasthat's the problem06:41
lucas"Word-constituent  characters  are06:42
lucas              letters, digits, and the underscore."06:42
lucasone could argue about this :-)06:42
slomoand the '-' ;)06:42
jamessan|workthat's a pretty standard regexp definition of a 'word character'  :)06:43
lucasmmh I'm not sure06:43
lucasword could be "anything but \s"06:43
jamessan|workI don't think I've seen any other definition for \w06:43
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Riddellwho is Andreas Mussgiller?07:05
mgalvinsiretart: thnx for uploading that theme07:05
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mgalvinfyi, i got cegui_mk2 and ogre to build and they are awaiting review as well07:07
GloubiboulgaI've reported a bug for a universe package, and provided a patch07:12
GloubiboulgaTo how the patch should be assigned ?07:12
Gloubiboulgato whom*07:13
GloubiboulgaTo whom the bug should be assigned ?07:14
JanCjust leave it like it is, I guess?07:14
bmonty_laptopGloubiboulga: what is the number?07:14
bmonty_laptopGloubiboulga: most likely it should be assigned to MOTU07:14
JanCunless you know a motu who wants to look at it07:14
slomodholbach: creating an empty /etc/shadow with touch (running pbuilder login --save-after-login) solves it ;)07:20
dholbachslomo: weird, i wonder what the real problem is07:20
bmonty_laptopGloubiboulga: that bug should be assigned to MOTU07:22
Gloubiboulgaok bmonty_laptop thanks07:25
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Nafalloslomo: yay!07:51
Nafalloslomo: (x2)07:51
slomoNafallo: was only a give-back on ppc... don't know about the others ;)07:51
slomoperfect... test it and tell me :)07:52
Nafallohopefully my pbuilder will do the same in a bit ;-)07:52
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slomowhy did you built it yourself?07:55
slomo"<Nafallo> hopefully my pbuilder will do the same in a bit ;-)"07:57
Nafalloyea. that grep /etc/shadow-thing...07:58
Nafallothe kernel should go in :03, right?07:58
slomoit should be there already07:59
Nafalloor even: ofcourse08:06
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dholbachhi herve08:30
dholbachhi Tonio_08:30
Tonio_re dholbach08:30
Tonio_dholbach: are we supposed to get an email when one package has been uploaded with success ?08:31
herveand with failure too :-)08:32
Tonio_ktranslator and kinstaller have been uploaded and I didn't receive any mail...08:32
hervebut your email needs to be whitelisted by the archive admins08:32
Tonio_maybe that's the reason ;)08:32
bmonty_laptopNafallo: thanks for the help with the uploads08:33
Nafallobmonty_laptop: no problem :-)08:34
bmonty_laptopNafallo: learned something new to look for with python packages :)08:34
NafalloI fixed that one for \sh in another package not so long ago so... ;-)08:36
bmonty_laptopeither way, now I know another thing to check with python packages08:37
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magnonsiretart: ping!08:55
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slomolucas: did you fix it already?09:19
lucasfix what ? :-)09:20
lucasah, the grep thing ?09:21
lucasno, not yet09:21
slomooh :(09:21
slomook, then i do some merges in the meantime :P09:21
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Nafalloyay! syncs!09:24
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lucasslomo: you can merge09:36
lucaswait 1 sec ;)09:36
slomonp :)09:36
lucas(why is rsync taking so long?)09:36
slomoi'm currently adjusting my procmail rules :P09:36
slomorsync over ssh?09:39
lucasbut it seems my server has some connections problems09:40
lucasyou can merge from there09:41
slomodone... and doesn't help :(09:42
lucasyou replaced filterlist.bash with filterlist.rb ?09:42
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slomono :)09:43
slomoworks perfect :)09:43
aboeis there somebody from xfce-team??09:43
aboebecause I got a question?09:43
slomolucas: is it normal that the html generator needs long09:44
lucasdid you give him the input file on stdin ?09:44
lucasand what is it outputting on stdout ?09:44
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slomolucas: ok, not stdin ;)09:45
slomohmm, i don't like the colours ;)09:46
lucasfeel free to submit a patch09:46
lucasit's easy to change : the CSS is in the HTML file09:46
slomoyes, i know :) but i would choose worse colours... choosing colours for something is no job for me09:47
slomobut i like it :) i'll make a cronjob out of it :)09:48
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lucasit still needs a lot of work09:52
crimsunmm xkb borkage09:53
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crimsunhi dholbach :-)09:58
dholbachre :)09:58
crimsundholbach: is 'gnome-games' known-broken on Dapper atm? Invoking most of the binaries from it in /usr/games/ result in the GTK+ setuid/setgid error message.10:01
bmonty_laptopNafallo: do you mind taking a look at Malone #4443?10:03
UbugtuError: Could not parse XML returned by Malone bugzilla: Connection to Malone bugzilla failed: HTTP Error 404: Not Found10:03
mgalvinwould anyone happen to have the time to review a package(cegui_mk2 and/or ogre, in revu)?10:03
Tonio_hi again10:03
Tonio_does anyone here have a breezy pbuilder ?10:03
bmonty_laptopTonio_: I don't have one, but it is fairly easy to make for yourself10:05
Tonio_bmonty_laptop: I know, I just don't to build one for just one package ;)10:05
Tonio_I have a dapper one and that's enough10:06
Tonio_I have just build a source package for kaffeine 0.7.110:06
Tonio_and I'd like to test to see if it is more stable10:06
Tonio_but anyway, I'll built one ;)10:07
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Nafallobmonty_laptop: sure, if you base the debdiff on the debian package :-)10:11
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bmonty_laptopnp :)10:11
Nafallothanx :-)10:11
GloubiboulgaI hate multiple packages10:12
Gloubiboulgais there any web site where I could find help to build one ?10:13
slomo506 merges left :)10:16
slomorbelem__: ping?10:17
bmonty_laptopNafallo: done10:18
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Nafallonice :-)10:20
bmonty_laptopNafallo: I'm going to be working on some more merges...you want me to tell you here or do you want to just look for the emails from malone?10:22
dholbachcrimsun: erm... new to me, will have a look10:23
Nafallobmonty_laptop: I look for e-mails tomorrow morning. the plan now is to hit the bed as soon as all my syncs and merges are built :-)10:23
crimsundholbach: no worries, I can live with gnometris for a while :-). Thanks regardless.10:23
bmonty_laptopNafallo: ok, good night then!10:23
Nafallothanx :-)10:24
bmonty_laptopthanks for your help10:24
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LaserJockwhy would a package not have a "Section:" ?10:55
hervenighty night!10:55
slomoLaserJock: the binary or source one?10:56
sivangnigght all10:56
slomoLaserJock: no idea ;)10:56
LaserJockhmm, I get that there are 12 source packages in Ubuntu that don't have "Source:"10:57
LaserJockbut in Debian it is fine10:57
sistpotyhi slomo10:57
sistpotyslomo: argl... elmo was faster with syncing hmake and haddock than i with ghc6 *g*10:57
slomoas expected ;)10:58
sistpotyslomo: there where (are?) some cabal-issues with the new ghc6... I'm testing rebuilt packages right now *hope*10:58
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sistpotywere even10:59
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tsenghm if people cant use dpatch w/o my blog being up there is a problem11:13
slomotseng: hm?11:21
tseng08:28 #ubuntu-motu: < zakame> hmm where can I read more on dpatch? tseng's site11:23
tseng          doesn't seem to be up11:23
slomoat least it shows you that you're important :)11:24
tsenghah, right11:25
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