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synapsis_phoghawk: : i see it, just going through the setup12:00
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NoUseLaLO please don't paste12:00
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naliothLaLO: read the /topic. dont paste in here, please12:00
tyrael_tcphoghawk: Breezy12:00
thrushchrisx1: have to leave for a few min sorry12:00
rightc0astdaminap, do you codec for win32? or plugin for an app like vlc?12:00
LaLOok12:00
chrisx1ok mate np12:00
rightc0astdo you mean*12:00
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cratel1how to congifure new hard disk in ubuntu linux machine12:00
phoghawkTyrael_tc any solution I've ever seen is just replacing the pixmap for that specific image.12:00
daminaprightc0ast: i just need the plug in name12:00
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kookanurranz67how can i view a 'mpg' file thru ubuntu?12:00
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LaLOplease help me12:00
martixphoghak: could yopu tell me how to modify it?12:01
tyrael_tcphoghawk: thats gay... you know where it is by chance?12:01
veloctLaLO: what's the filesystem?12:01
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theblueHi all.12:01
phoghawkmartix, hold on. Tyrael_tc, you too. lol12:01
markl__kookanurranz67: you might have to try installing something from a different source, perhaps VLC12:01
LaLOext312:01
maddashLaLO: what FS?12:01
martixok thanks12:01
rightc0astok, well .mov are quicktime files and win 32 codecs wont run those, but im still confused, what do you mean plugin? a codec right?12:01
tyrael_tcphoghawk: kk12:01
theblueDoes anyone know of a way to recover files from a hard drive using the Hoary Live CD?12:01
markl__kookanurranz67: that is what i plan to do12:01
synapsis_i know this is a lame question, but how do i download mp3s?12:01
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thebluesynapsis_: From where?12:02
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LaLOIm not sure, but i  think ext312:02
jatoser you goto the MP3 site find the MP3 then you right click ...12:02
kookanurranz67VLC?  any good?12:02
cratel1 how can i connect new hard disk in my pc12:02
thebluesynapsis_: From a peer to peer thing?12:02
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daminapwhat is the name of the mov plugin?12:02
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synapsis_theblue: yeah something similar to ares, or limewire12:02
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thebluesynapsis_: There's GiFT for that, I've never used it, but its in APT.12:02
maddashLaLO: type in "sudo fdisk -l"12:02
phoghawkmartix, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"12:02
thebluecratel1: Ok, here's what you do:12:02
thebluecratel1: Is this an IDE hard disk/system?12:03
maddashLalo, Dump your output to the pastebin12:03
cratel1 how can i connect new hard disk in my linux machine12:03
rightc0ast:\12:03
phoghawktyrael_tc, somewhere in /usr/share/pixmaps/12:03
martixphghawk: hmm let me try it12:03
LaLOFS is Linux12:03
tyrael_tcphoghawk: kk12:03
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phoghawkdaminap, you'll have to install the w32codecs package12:03
cratel1yes i have IDE hard disk in my machine12:03
xbox_skyanyone managed to run a newsreader/web called "ninan" In ubuntu?12:03
daminapthanks through synaptic right?12:03
thebluecratel1: Ok, this is rather easy to do, just make sure you know how.12:03
cratel1but i want to add other hard of 300GB12:03
phoghawkdaminap, assuming you have the repositories for it12:03
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veloctLaLO: no the filesystem would be ext2 or ext3 or reiserFS12:03
beginner1good night12:03
thebluecratel1: Ok, now pick up the 300GB hard drive, and look at the back.12:04
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Siph0nis there a hot key in ubuntu to start a terminal window?12:04
phoghawkSiph0n, I think it's F10 or something12:04
maddashLaLO: It's probably ext2 or ext3...here's what to do:12:04
synapsis_how can i transfer files from a usb drive?12:04
daminapyes but says its already in whats goin on12:04
thebluecratel1: You should notice a port with 4 big pins, one with lots of little pins, and a little 6 or 8 pin jumper port, which looks like the data port.12:04
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thebluesynapsis_: Just plug it in, Ubuntu will recognize it.12:04
watnusynapsis_: copy and paste12:04
synapsis_k thank you12:05
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phoghawkSiph0n, turns out it's not, sorry. I think it may be one of the F keys though12:05
Siph0nk12:05
Siph0nthanx :)12:05
maddashLalo: try "sudo mount /dev/****". in place asterisks type in your device name12:05
cratel1its maxtor dimaondmax 1012:05
cratel1its not ide hard disk12:05
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thebluecratel1: ..12:05
maddashLalo: what's the output?12:05
ktogias_Siph0n, System -> Preferencies -> Keyboard shortcuts12:05
phoghawkktogias_, Good call12:06
thebluecratel1: Does it have 1) 4 big pins next to each other 2) a 39 or 40 pin connecter on the back, and 3) a little 6 or 8 pin port on the back?12:06
cratel1i connected SATA 150 TX@ card hard disk to my PC thaen i satrted my PC but was not working properly12:06
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LaLOCant find /dev/hdc5 in fstab12:06
daminapso then y wont the .mov files play now12:06
cratel1it was showing message loading ......12:06
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phoghawkdaminap, did w32codecs install well?12:07
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LaLOCant find /dev/hdc1 in fstab12:07
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daminapit says theyre already in12:07
thebluecratel1: I don't know much about SATA, I can't really help you.12:07
synapsis_theblue: ok i hooked up the usb, however i don't know where to look for it12:07
thebluesynapsis_: It should appear on the desktop.12:07
maddashLaLO: then do "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"12:07
thebluesynapsis_: Or under /media12:07
maddashLalo: and edit it on your own12:07
Siph0nthanx ktogias_ and phoghawk :)12:07
chrisx1synapsis_, u talkin about usb memory stick?12:07
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LaLOok now its ok12:07
maddashLalo: do you know the fields to fill in?12:07
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LaLOubuntu@dhcppc0:/$ sudo mount /dev/hdc112:08
LaLOmount: tipo de sistema de ficheros '' desconocido12:08
synapsis_chrisx1: yes12:08
phoghawkdaminap, try "sudo apt-get install totem-xine" then try to use totem to play a .mov file12:08
cratel1thanks theblue12:08
chrisx1im having problem with that to12:08
thebluecratel1: No problem.12:08
synapsis_theblue: not there =(12:08
LaLOfile system '' I dont know12:08
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tyrael_tcphoghawk: lol not there...12:08
thebluesynapsis_: odd. What version of Ubuntu are you running?12:08
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maddashLalo: you probably didn't edit your fstab correctly12:09
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maddashLalo, what does the line containing /dev/hdc1 say?12:09
cratel1does any one know about SATA 150 and dimond maxtor hard disk12:09
folkiCan anybody say me how can I change keyboard in Ubuntu (in Win it is Shift+Alt)12:09
synapsis_theblue: newest12:09
phoghawktyrael_tc, for me there was an option to change your keyboard setup12:09
thebluesynapsis_: So Breezy Badger?12:09
tyrael_tcphoghawk: im the icon guy...12:09
LaLO/dev/hdc1 /lalo 0 012:09
tyrael_tcphoghawk: lol12:09
daminapphoghawk it says some stuff about locks not being able to unlock12:09
maddashLalo: you did it wrong12:09
phoghawkfoki, there's a applet for that12:09
chrisx1im running Hedgehog 112:10
synapsis_theblue: no idea12:10
phoghawkdaminap, you may have synaptic open12:10
synapsis_theblue: how can i tell12:10
daminapphoghawk should i be in root12:10
thebluesynapsis_: Ok, are you in X now?12:10
phoghawkdaminap, you can't have synaptic open when you apt-get. it's one or the other12:10
daminapoh yea i do hehe12:10
thebluesynapsis_: Or the graphical part?12:10
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synapsis_theblue: gui12:10
thebluesynapsis_: Ok, that's X.12:10
cratel1any one familiar with SATA device12:10
LaLOok wait12:10
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phoghawksorry tyrael_tc, lol. The only time I've successfully changed it was in Hoary, they may have changed it now.12:10
sara_hjello12:10
NoUsechrisx1 you may want to upgrade to breezy, the USB mounting got better with the upgrade12:10
phoghawktyrael_tc, let me look for it12:10
mcphailDoes anyone have the link to the howto for installing 32bit apps (chroot) in the amd64 version?12:10
sara_i mean to say hello12:10
folkiHow can I change keyboard in Ubuntu, please?12:11
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bur[n] eranyone out there use evolution with an exchange server successfully?12:11
maddashLalo, the correct syntax is "/dev/hdc1   /lalo   ext3   defaults    0    0"12:11
thebluesynapsis_: What I need you to do is hit Ctrl-Alt-F1, and it should tell you there.  Hit Alt-F7 to get back.12:11
crimsunfolki: System> Preferences> Keyboard12:11
tyrael_tcphoghawk: much appriciated12:11
chrisx1they send disks out for that?12:11
chrisx1or do i have to download?12:11
kinkoblastDoes ubuntu not handle accented chars in file names?12:11
NoUsechrisx1 yeah12:11
phoghawkubuntu people are so kind12:11
thebluephoghawk: That's our goal.12:11
sara_can anyone help me with an alsa sound problem?12:11
chrisx1kk12:11
chrisx1ill oreder some12:11
chrisx1*Order12:11
djk_kinkoblast: i'd assume that depends on your settings...12:12
thebluephoghawk: Much better than those call centers.12:12
LaLOok12:12
kinkoblastdjk_: hmm. on my friends computer, we were having trouble copying parts of the Animal Crossing sound track.12:12
daminapok thanks phoghawk! =-)12:12
LaLOthe error message is: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc5,12:12
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LaLO missing codepage or other error12:12
LaLO       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try12:12
folkiIs there any shortcut for change keyboard?12:13
LaLOdmesg | tail  or so12:13
kinkoblastdjk_: A couple of K.K. Slider's songs have e' s and n~ s12:13
maddashLalo, try again, except replace "ext3" in "/dev/hdc1   /lalo   ext3   defaults    0    0" with the correct filesystem (try "fat32" or "ntfs" or "ext2", etc)12:13
NoUseLaLO remember when we asked you to not paste?12:13
maddashLaLO: use the pastebin12:13
LaLOok sorry12:13
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maddash!tell LaLO about pastebin12:14
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phoghawkfolki, there is a GNOME panel applet I think. Right click on one of the panels and click: "Add to panel"12:14
djk_kinkoblast: check your locale if it supports it.12:14
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folkiI am a new user of Ubuntu (third day)...Is there some good manual or help or tutorial or something else which can help me with first steps?12:14
NoUsehttp://help.ubuntu.com12:14
thebluefolki: The Wiki is useful: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/12:15
maddashLaLO: sorry, but I don't know how to find out the filesystem format of a partition other than through qtparted, which I don't assume you have12:15
tyrael_tchow do i register on freenode?12:15
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bur[n] ertyrael_tc: /msg ns12:15
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maddashLaLO: let me know if you got it working12:15
kentNoaires, folki the help.ubuntu.com is the same help as in System->help  (right?)12:15
bur[n] ertyrael_tc: actually.. /msg nickserv help12:15
phoghawktyrael_tc, I couldn't seem to find it either. I would post something in the forums and then wait. I'm sure someone has felt the need to mod the upper left corner of their screen12:15
sara_i cant get my asla sound working with my via motherboard, for some reason with every alsa package installed i cant get alsaconf to run12:15
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tyrael_tcphoghawk: its just so red. ot contrasts badly with my blueish theme12:16
blueyedLaLO: "sudo fdisk -l /dev/.." will list the partitions.12:16
LaLOit dont work12:16
tyrael_tcphoghawk: thx12:16
folkithanks12:16
phoghawktyrael_tc, that makes sense12:16
d-snp:'(12:16
phoghawkfolki, did you find it?12:16
d-snpit's so late and still nothing works12:16
maddashblueyed: I told him about fdisk already12:16
LaLOas ext3 and as ext2 it doesnt word12:16
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maddashblueyed: the problem is we don't know the FS of the partition12:16
LaLOthe command fdisk -l says I have a linux FS12:16
phoghawkHow old are most of you guys?12:17
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phoghawkor gals12:17
theblue12.12:17
maddashLaLO: try "reiserfs"12:17
veloctshould be ext212:17
phoghawktheblue: impressive ;)12:17
d-snp18, linux age: 3 days12:17
LaLOwhat ?12:17
blueyedLaLO: what's the Id before "Linux" in fdisk -l?12:17
synapsis_theblue: press alt-ctr-f1 left me in a prompt, i had no idea how to get back12:17
thebluelinux age: 5 years.12:17
thebluesynapsis_: Yes.12:17
LaLO8312:18
thebluesynapsis_: alt-f7 gets you back.12:18
d-snp:|12:18
LaLOid = 8312:18
synapsis_linux age: 2 days12:18
folkiyes, I found it12:18
thebluesynapsis_: What did the prompt say?12:18
synapsis_theblue: it said breezy12:18
folkiis there help how to install software too?12:18
d-snplinux kills my inner child12:18
thebluesynapsis_: Ok.12:18
blueyedLaLO: this is ext3 with me. But I'm not sure if ext2 has another Id. Probably not. Why is it important?12:18
veloctthat's ext3 i think12:18
synapsis_d-snp: i'm right there wiht you buddy12:18
phoghawktheblue, since you were seven? wow. Props to you, my friend12:18
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thebluefolki: Type sudo aptitude at a command prompt.12:18
veloctext2 is 8212:18
thebluephoghawk: Thanks.12:18
Niomihi all. i have extra buttons on my mouse, how can i program them to do stuff?12:19
maddashveloct, blueyed: ext2/ext3 didn't work, read his messages12:19
synapsis_theblue: what were we trying to figure out before that?  i can't even remember why i went to find out12:19
phoghawkfolki, help for installing software where?12:19
blueyedmaddash: I've just entered.12:19
folkiI need some help12:19
thebluesynapsis_: Ok, one last time, try plugging your USB drive directly into the back of your computer.12:19
folkisome manual12:19
maddashLalo, did "reiserfs" work?12:19
veloctmaddash: i realize that but 83 is ext312:19
theblue?12:19
synapsis_theblue: oh right the usb =)12:19
maddashblueyed, sans you then.12:20
synapsis_theblue: ok i'll plug it in again12:20
LaLOcommand not found12:20
LaLOsays12:20
maddashveloct: true.12:20
phoghawkNiomi, it can be a pain in the but. If I remembered the file that allowed you do do this, I'd tell you. I remember that theres an article in the Ubuntu wiki about that. http://www.wiki.ubuntu.com12:20
synapsis_theblue: k plugged in12:20
synapsis_oh12:20
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synapsis_it found it this time12:20
thebluesynapsis_: There we go.12:20
d-snpcan't I just kill my firewall, it keeps saying I'm under attack12:20
veloctLaLO: try "sudo cfdisk" without the quotes, that should tell you12:20
thebluesynapsis_: Need anything else?12:20
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synapsis_theblue: yes, i would like to make a mp3 directory, but i'm unsure where to place it12:21
d-snpfrom ip's that are obviously the people I want to download from :(12:21
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thebluesynapsis_: In your home folder.12:21
synapsis_theblue: i don't want it off of my desktop or home directory, since i want my brother to beable to find it easily.12:21
veloctsynapsis_ : just create a folder in your home folder12:21
folkii.e if I download some soft (extension .tar or .gz) what I should do if I want to install it?12:21
thebluesynapsis_: Not sure.12:21
LaLOsays error : cfdisk cant be open press enter to exit12:21
gnomefreak.tars have to be compiled right?12:22
phoghawksynapsis_, if you have an external HD, I'd put it there.12:22
maddashLaLO: did you use sudo?12:22
synapsis_phoghawk: unfortunately i don't have that option anymore, my last drive died12:22
LaLOyes12:22
naliothgnomefreak: the things in them usually do, yes12:22
ktogias_folki, if it is source you unzipp it and read the README or INSTALL file...12:22
synapsis_would it be wise to put it in the / directory?12:22
Niomiphoghawk: i'll check it out, thanks for pointing me in the right direction12:22
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LaLOups12:22
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phoghawkfolki: you would untar it first, but after that there are many scenarios. I would reccomend using synaptic unless you absolutely can't for some reason12:22
LaLOerror : the unit device cant be open12:22
maddashLaLO: what other programs are running? maybe they're accessing the HD at the moment...12:22
LaLOsays12:22
LaLOpress enter to exit12:23
gnomefreakNaliioth: ty12:23
LaLOonlu the irc12:23
LaLOonly irc12:23
fdrsynapsis_ : no, because for a number of reasons the root filesystem should be as small as possible12:23
dell500how do you get file transfer to work in gaim if you're behind a router?12:23
velocthmmm, only should say that if you didn't use sudo12:23
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folkiphoghawk if I download some soft how can I install it?12:23
sara_i need sound help  wah wah12:23
phoghawkdell500, I've had troubles with this too, esp. with AIM. I've not found a solution12:23
synapsis_fdr: ok nice, i'm just gunna stick to throwing it into my home directory12:24
phoghawksara_, that won't get you anywhere. Try asking a question12:24
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darksouldoom3, can it run on ubuntu without wine or anything?12:24
dell500phoghawk, that sucks  :(12:24
sara_pho i did but i didnt want to get pushy12:24
fdrsynapsis_ : if you feel like reading some docs, the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard should tell you where to put it12:24
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maddashsara_: what's the problem?12:24
veloctdarksoul: only if you buy the linux version, if there's one12:24
phoghawkdarksoul, yes. Use a program called Cedega. I don't believe it's free however12:24
tyrael_tcsara_ indeed ask away12:24
synapsis_fdr: k thanks12:25
sara_i have all the alsa packages installed and pnptools but i cant get my sound working in ubuntu  (via motherboard)12:25
maddashLalo: what's the message when you tried "ext3" ?12:25
darksoulphoghawk: i thought it came with built in support for linux..12:25
veloctCedega is not free12:25
d-snpit is12:25
d-snpyou can just download the source and compile it12:25
tyrael_tcsara_ does the alsa bind to the card?12:25
fdrsynapsis_: you're welcome12:25
LaLOthe same message for all FS12:25
synapsis_another question, after installing amarok, i've tried to run a mp3 that i just moved from my usb, and theres an error: "Totem could not startup"12:25
darksould-snap: and were would i get the source?12:25
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LaLOwrong fs type :S12:26
phoghawkdarksoul, I'm not quite sure then. I think that just means that it has the ability to run under Cedega12:26
d-snpehh dunno, cedega.sourceforge.net I suppose12:26
sara_alsaconf wont run , it seems its corrupted12:26
NoUsed-snp you don't get some of the software that trasgaming licenses to put in cedega if you do that12:26
LaLObad superblock on /dev/hdc512:26
d-snpoh12:26
maddashLalo, ok, same thing for ext2?12:26
sara_i i thought alsaconf was part of alsa-base or alsa-utils but it didnt install properly12:26
LaLOyes12:26
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kl1hi12:26
darksoulphoghawk: why cant they just make a game that will work on both windows AND linux?12:26
kl1where can i paste some code?12:26
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d-snpbecause of directx12:27
maddashLalo, ok go to system>>administration>>disks12:27
phoghawkdarksoul, because... coding is different. and directx12:27
phoghawkdarksoul, too many reasons to name off12:27
tyrael_tcdarksoul cus they are a$$wipes12:27
maddashLalo, click on the "partition" tab12:27
darksoulphoghawk: hell they wouldent be losing any customers..they would be gaining... and i know the code is diffrant....but you could make two versions of the game12:27
NoUsedarksoul some people do, like Id software12:27
phoghawktyrael_tc, no, iD software is actually very linux friendly12:27
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maddashLalo, what's the filesystem of the partition?12:27
phoghawkdarksoul, but that would taek more time and more money12:28
darksoulNoUse: really? what games do they make12:28
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tyrael_tcphoghawk: thats one comapany12:28
NoUsedarksoul Doom 3, Quake 412:28
phoghawkdarksoul, Quake and Doom12:28
SirKillalotare there programs which allow to unmount end eject the disc when the user presses the button on the cdrom drive?12:28
darksoulphoghawk: so? they would get like 20mill more customers12:28
tyrael_tcthe Unreal tournament series installs on Linux12:28
phoghawkdarksoul, nearly all of the older Quake games are available free on the iD software ftp site12:28
darksoulNoUse: k12:28
mordrecwhere can i get  the w32codecs for ubuntu?12:28
darksoulphoghawk: were would i download that?12:28
NoUse!w32codecs12:28
ubotumethinks w32codecs is for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/12:28
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mordrecthanks12:28
tyrael_tcmoredrec: good question12:28
maddash!w32codecs12:28
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veloctdarksoul:  go to this site: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/12:29
darksoul!quake12:29
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, darksoul12:29
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darksoulveloct: thanks12:29
maddash!argh12:29
ubotumaddash: Do they come in packets of five?12:29
SirKillalotare there programs which allow to unmount end eject the disc when the user presses the button on the cdrom drive?12:29
maddash!inappreciative12:29
ubotumaddash: Are you smoking crack?12:29
veloctdarksoul: np :)12:29
maddashSirKillalot: good question, i'd like to know too12:30
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HobbseeSirKillalot: eject?  it should work by default12:30
MorpheousWhere is the list of  repositories for apt-get stored?12:31
LaLOi didnt see partition on device manager :S12:31
SirKillalotnope, I mean pressing on the hardwarebutton12:31
Germanhello12:31
HobbseeMorpheous: /etc/apt/sources.list12:31
MorpheousThanks12:31
HobbseeSirKillalot: exactly, works on a lot of machines, check that the package "eject" is installed12:31
Germancan anyone help me with Tomboy12:31
tyrael_tcwho ever said helping others with linux was right12:31
SirKillalotThe program should see that the user pressed the button, try to unmount, if it doesnt work, it should unmount by force and eject12:31
tyrael_tc*linux is fun was right*12:31
phoghawkSorry to anyone I'm leaving hanging, but I gotsta go watch the KANSAS JAYHAWKS. WOOOT. Peace12:31
SirKillalotHobbsee, I mean the damn hardwarebutton, on your case!12:32
dr_willisthe idea of 'it should unmount by force' is sort of scary12:32
maddashlalo, huh? there's a tab on the right column that says "Properties", and one that says, "Partitions"12:32
tyrael_tcSirKillalot: so was he occasionally it doesnt work but it usually does12:33
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Nihil85hallo!12:33
fmasihow do i install icons thems from gnome look12:33
maddashlalo, are you in "Disks Manager" app?12:33
Nihil85can anyone give me the name of a good wireless lan software'12:33
gnomefreakgnome look?? you mean art.gnome.com?12:33
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fmasiI mean http://www.gnome-look.org12:34
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tyrael_tcfmasi: generally you need to install each part seperate.12:35
tyrael_tcfmasi: I had too12:35
gnomefreaksorry thought it was only kde-look and xfce-look12:35
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Nihil85HALLO! can anyone give me the name of a good wireless lan software'12:35
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Esotericismscna ubuntu be install on a mac computer?12:35
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Esotericismsinstalled*12:35
Rubinhow do i change the defaulte console keyboard map (to dvorak)12:35
Rubinwhats the tool the installer runs to set that up?12:36
fmasiAnd how do i instal the icons ?12:36
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antisocial_borisdoes anyone know of a good equation writing program i can run with hoary?12:36
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Nihil85HALLO! can anyone give me the name of a good wireless lan software'12:36
Rubinantisocial_boris: openoffice2 has one, if you upgrade to breezy12:36
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samasamaHey, I12:37
antisocial_borisi dont really want to upgrade atm12:37
sadrulsomeone can please tell me where i can get libsilc? (breezy)12:37
samasamaerrr I'm new to ubuntu and any debian based system for that matter... I can't figure out where all the modules are getting loaded12:37
fletch33Nihil85,  i just thought i would tell u that u r not going to get anywhere here like that12:37
Hobbsee!info libsilc12:37
synapsis_question, how do i keep my client logged on, and have another client log on, and then after the 2nd client is done, return to the first?12:37
ubotulibsilc: (SILC library (silc-toolkit)), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 376 kB, Installed size: 888 kB12:37
petrigihi, can someone help me, I was using http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/ for synaptic and it seems no more accessible12:38
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samasamasynapsis_: screen maybe12:38
Nihil85fletch33, what do you mean?12:38
LaLOfs is ext212:38
Germananyone can help me with tomboy please12:38
synapsis_samasama: meh i guess its not a big deal12:38
KaoticEvilanyone ever successfully get an Argus pencam working on ubuntu?12:38
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synapsis_bbl12:38
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LaLOmaddash FS is ext212:39
fletch33Nihil85, if you scream and keep repeating i have found that the people that know wont answer u. doesnt matter to me but i thought i would mention it12:39
chrisx1does any1 have any idea why mplayer is taking ages to make install?12:39
maddashLalo: then use ext2 iin your fstab12:39
Nihil85fletch33, i have not screamed12:39
LaLOyes12:39
maddashlalo: and then "sudo mount /dev/hdc1"12:40
tyrael_tcchrisx1: dude just install in Synaptic12:40
chrisx1kk12:40
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tyrael_tcthats what i did works perfectly12:40
fletch33using capital letters is screaming12:40
LaLOI cant :(12:40
Nihil85fletch33, i keep repeating my request because in this channel a lot of people are entering, so maybe the one who is new, can help me12:40
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fletch33Nihil85,  using caps = screaming12:40
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OrbordeWhat's a good Scheme interpreter?12:40
fletch33Nihil85, sorry dude i was just trying to help12:41
LaLOEXT2-fs: hdc5: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4).12:41
fletch33Nihil85,  didnt mean anything by it12:41
gnomefreakNihil85, please dont ask one right after another there are 605 ppl in here so please be pateint12:41
sadrulHobbsee: thanx a lot :)12:41
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Hobbseesadrul: no problems12:42
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KaoticEvilhey Hobbsee :)12:42
Hobbseehey KaoticEvil :)12:42
samasamaHow do I get a full list of services that are set to run at boot?12:42
Nihil85fletch33, gnomefreak, excuse me if i yelled "hello" and if i asked three times a question12:42
maddashlalo, in fstab, try "0   2" instead of "0 0"12:42
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Nihil85i will be more patient12:42
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gnomefreakNihil85, ok what was your question and ty12:43
LaLOok, but it doesnt work again12:43
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Nihil85gnomefreak, i cannot connect in a wireless lan my 2 pc (both are using ubuntu breezy)12:43
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maddashlalo, wat's the msg?12:44
Nihil85gnomefreak, i guess that maybe i need a sofwtare more configurable than kwifimanager12:44
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LaLOthe same message wrong fs type12:44
LaLO:S12:44
LaLObut the fs is correct12:44
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gnomefreakNihil85, im not much help on wireless i havent tried to set it up12:44
Nihil85gnomefreak, thanks however12:45
blackvdsay whats the plugin for k3b to make it automatically convert mp3,ogg,etc to wav when burning?12:45
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samasamaHow do I get a full list of services that are set to run at boot?12:45
NoUseblackvd it should already do ogg, for mp3 install k3b-mp312:45
Nihil85gnomefreak, i've tried on #wireless but i didn't receive any answer for the name of a good software12:45
kinkoblastBlackvd: But don't make more mp3s. use ogg.12:46
blackvdthink i did, let me check12:46
gnomefreakNihil85, have you tried to search on ubuntu wiki?12:46
user01what should i do if i just installed ubuntu for the first time and it froze at "stqrting hotplug subsystem"?12:46
blackvdi do12:46
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Nihil85gnomefreak, i've tried every wiki, every how-to, every everything12:46
maddashlalo, you should double check that you selected the right DRIVE and PARTITION under Disks Manager12:46
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blackvdyeah i have k3b-mp3 installed12:47
blackvddoes it work for ogg too12:47
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bur[n] erblackvd: apt-cache search k3b12:47
darrochfamilymy HP deskjet printer won't work in breezy but it works in Knoppix 3.7, could I just copy knoppix's configuration files across or would that stuff things up?12:48
LaLOi can install linux over this partition and keep my files ??12:48
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superbeasthow can i uninstall ubuntu and grub w/o deleting my windows partition12:48
petrigidoes someone know a plf ressource for ubuntu ?12:48
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NoUseblackvd ogg should already be installed12:48
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tyrael_tcg'night all12:49
samasamaHow do I get a full list of services that are set to run at boot?12:49
LaLOim too bored for this problem12:49
LaLOi can install linux over this partition and keep my files ??12:49
Chris_Tuckeranyone know an easy way to add new fonts to wine?12:49
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SionideLaLO, "this partition" has windows on?12:49
maddashLalo if by 'linux' you mean 'ubuntu', then sure, why not?12:49
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LaLOno i have windows in other HD12:50
maddashlalo though i don't understand why you would need to mount the partition just to install an OS12:50
gnomefreakwhat is breezy badger +1?12:50
blackvdok so in the track listings it shows them as mp3, will in convert them when burning?12:50
LaLObut i have movies and music on linux12:50
NoUseblackvd if you told it to burn an audio CD yes12:50
LaLOi i dont want lost it12:50
blackvdcool thanks12:50
harshrealmhello!12:50
samasamaHow do I find out what services are set to start up at boot?12:50
maddashLalo, installing any OS would delete your files12:50
darrochfamilymy HP deskjet printer won't work in Kububtu breezy but it works in Knoppix 3.7, could I just copy knoppix's configuration files across or would that stuff things up?12:51
thrush-workingsamasama: ls /etc/init.d/12:51
sadrul!info silc-toolkit12:51
maddashlalo, what OS did you previously use the partitions containing th efiles with?12:51
samasamathrush-working: any file in there that's executable?12:51
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LaLOI cant install ubuntu over this ubuntu partition ??12:51
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Rubinlalo: its best to delete the partition and reformat it12:52
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LaLOi have linux at one HD and in other Hd i have Winxp12:52
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Rubinlalo: so wipe the linux one12:52
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maddashlalo, are you using ubuntu now?12:53
LaLOyes12:53
jerome71Hello12:53
LaLOthe live cd12:53
samasamathrush-working: any file in there that's executable will be executed on boot?12:53
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LaLObecause my ubuntu fail12:53
jerome71I need somme help abour diswrapper, can you help me please ;-)12:53
maddashLALO go ahead and install ubuntu on top of your existing ubuntu partition12:53
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user01hmmm i think it is the sound blaster audigy 2 pci card taht did it12:54
a8514Hi12:54
user01sorry i mean pcmia12:54
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fmasiIs ther enny whay that i can make the whidows border transparent so it will be like windows vista12:54
LaLOmy files wouldnt be removed ??12:54
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fmasii like to make genome look exacly like windosw vista12:54
user01i popped it out and it seems to be working noz12:54
samasamaI'm also trying to figure out where all these modules are being loaded from (e.g., sony_acpi ??? ), I just installed and am not familar with a debian based system and am trying to do some post-install cleaning12:54
a8514I have a little problems with PHP5... it doesn't work... It's installed but it doesn't work12:54
LaLOi dont want lost my files12:54
a8514can anybody help me?12:55
LaLOI ask if i can...12:55
fmasii nead to make gnome like vista for pepole of my univercity12:55
maddashlalo are your files on the same partition as ubuntu's?12:55
LaLOyes12:55
NoUse!tell a8514 about php12:55
wickedpuppyfmasi, you need vista .... not gnome12:55
fmasii hate vista12:55
fmasibut some pepole at univercity like it12:55
a8514NoUse, I installes Apache2 and PHP5, bue12:55
maddashlalo, what's wrong with the existing ubuntu installation?12:55
a8514but, PHP doesn't interpret the php file12:56
fmasiso i like to make the icones and the border like vista12:56
gnomefreakwhats wrong with the way gnome looks?12:56
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fmasii love it gnomefreak but some frind whats me to put like vista12:56
NoUsea8514 did you install the apache plugin for php?12:56
fmasijust the glass sistem12:56
LaLOI put some files.c by error in /etc/modprob.d while i was seeing the steps of one manual12:57
fmasii ges ther is awhay to make the borders translucid no ?12:57
a8514I supose...12:57
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a8514Just a second...12:57
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wickedpuppyfmasi, if you use ubuntu and tell people its vista ... its cheating on the linux ... don't ya think?12:57
LaLOand when i restart the ubuntu doesnt work12:57
gnomefreakive never seen vista but im sure its not much different from xp but way off base for linux12:57
German can't install tomboy --- help me please12:57
fmasii do i not gona do that they just like the glass look things have12:57
Nihil85hallo! i cannot access my shared folder. the window chrashes. what's the problem? how can i fix it?12:58
vallerahello i am kind of a noob can some one help me when i try to open my hdd an error message appears "The folder contents could not be displayed. You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hdb1". "12:58
fmasii have a copy at home its just xp whith skins12:58
samasamaI'm also trying to figure out where all these modules are being loaded from (e.g., sony_acpi ??? ), I just installed and am not familar with a debian based system and am trying to do some post-install cleaning12:58
fmasiits a shit12:58
fmasiubuntu is mutch bether12:58
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a8514NoUse, "$ sudo aptitude install php5"   <-- this??12:58
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fmasijust like to figure out how to make the border lok like glassy12:58
darksoulwtf12:58
darksoulcan somone tell me wtf is wrong12:58
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kbrooksdarkheart: with12:59
kbrooksdarksoul: with?12:59
wickedpuppyfmasi, give those who like vista , windows vista ... give the rest ubuntu .. see how long they can stand it12:59
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darksoulmy sound works on gnome..but its all messed up, like it has fuzz in it12:59
kbrooksdarksoul: define "wtf is wrong"12:59
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kbrooksdarksoul: what is your problem?12:59
darksouli know its prob just a new driver needed12:59
NoUsea8514 have you looked at the link ubotu sent you?12:59
kbrooksdarksoul:12:59
kbrooksdarksoul: what is your problem!!!!!!12:59
fmasiok but is ther a way to make the border translucid or some thing like it i curios now about that12:59
darksoulnothing its just fuzzy, the sound, i can hear it but its like a radio with barly any reseption..12:59
wickedpuppy....12:59
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gnomefreaklol01:00
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a8514Sorry?01:00
wickedpuppykbrooks, he just said his problem01:00
darksouli just want to know what i need to download to update on board sound cards...01:00
vallerahello i am kind of a noob can some one help me when i try to open my hdd an error message appears "The folder contents could not be displayed. You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hdb1". " please help me .01:00
kbrooksdarksoul: uh no01:00
kbrooksdarksoul: its not that01:00
darksoulkbrooks: then what is it?01:00
thrushvallera: this is a windows partition?01:00
NoUse!tell a8514 about php01:00
kbrooksits your sound settings01:01
maddashlalo, the steps I gave you should have worked01:01
NoUsea8514 that walks you through how to install and configure PHP01:01
valleraso there is no way that i can view the contents01:01
kbrooksdarksoul: right click on the gnome menu in a empty area01:01
kbrooksadd applet01:01
maaloxIs anyone aware of a way to disable device-mapper?01:01
thrushvallera: yes u can01:01
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kbrooksfind the gnome volumee applet and add it01:01
maddashvallera: what partition?01:01
darksoulits allredy added01:01
vallerathrush so there is no way to view its content01:01
LaLOyes i think that01:01
darksoulso how does that help?01:01
UnIDatahi, i doownload horde3 how run ?01:01
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valleramaddash hdb101:01
darksoullol01:02
maddashvallera: where is it mounted?01:02
LaLOby i dont know whats the problem01:02
fmasiif enny one know how to make widows border translucid pleas pvt me01:02
a8514mm01:02
kbrooksdarksoul: did you increase the volume01:02
maddashmaddash: open up a terminal, type in "cd /media"01:02
kbrooksall up the way to the top01:02
darksoulkbrooks: yes. i increased it..the pc speakers all the way up to01:02
maddashvallera: open up a terminal, type in "cd /media"01:02
valleramaddash not sure there is an icon on my desktop labeled hdb101:02
LaLOI only want now if its possible reinstall linux at the same partiton and dont lost my files...........01:02
samasamaI'm also trying to figure out where all these modules are being loaded from (e.g., sony_acpi ??? ), I just installed and am not familar with a debian based system and am trying to do some post-install cleaning and just need some direction : )01:03
maddashvallera: then type in "ls" --- is hdb1 listed?01:03
maddashlalo - it is possible for windows to access an ext2/ext3 partition01:03
valleramaddash yes it is listed01:03
LaLOyes01:03
LaLOnext week01:03
LaLOxDD01:03
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LaLObecause i have an old screen that not support my windows resolution01:04
valleramaddash i also see my usb drive which is not on the desktop can i make an icon for it01:04
LaLO:(01:04
UnIDatahi, i download horde3 how run ?01:04
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UnIDataplease help01:04
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samasamaHi, I'm trying to figure out where all these modules are being loaded from (e.g., sony_acpi ??? ), I just installed and am not familar with a debian based system and am trying to do some post-install cleaning and just need some direction : )01:04
YUSETHHOLA QUIERO PLATICAR01:04
maddashlalo, fire up windows, http://www.fs-driver.org/  , install it, and backup your data01:04
gnomefreakUnIData, try typing horde3 in terminal01:04
darksoulyea its like when you turn up the pc speakers to loud and it starts fuzzing..but this is a stario.. and i have never had this problem on windows..so it must be somthing01:04
maaloxIs anyone aware of a way to disable "device-mapper"?01:05
maddashvallera: here's what to do: type in this command:01:05
darksoulthen again...on windows my base didint work thisgood01:05
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valleramaddash ok where ?01:05
maddashvallera: "chmod a+rwx hdb1"01:05
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maddashvallera: that should do the trick01:06
wickedpuppysamasama, if you wanna know what modules are loaded its same for all nix01:06
UnIDatagnomefreak: http://localhost/horde3 ??01:06
maddashlalo, is that a viable solution?01:06
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darksoulnvm the entire problem looks like the damn gnome sounds01:06
darksoullike gaim01:06
gnomefreakUnIData,  you said its downloaded already right?01:06
samasamawickedpuppy:  Yeah, not listing, i need to see where in the boot process they're being loaded01:06
valleramaddash here is the message "chmod: cannot access `hdb1': No such file or directory"01:06
darksoulmy music mostly plays fine so meh..01:06
samasamawickedpuppy: So I can stop them from being loaded01:06
harshrealmthe following problem were found on you system:01:07
thrushvallera: to mount a windows partition: sudo mount -o umask=0000 /dev/hdb1 /media/whatever01:07
LaLOyes01:07
BenCsamasama: hotplug01:07
LaLOthanks01:07
BenCsee /etc/hotplug01:07
harshrealmW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)01:07
harshrealmW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)01:07
harshrealmW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)01:07
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harshrealmW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)01:07
harshrealmW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)01:07
harshrealmW: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)01:07
wickedpuppysamasama, not listing ? what you type to see the list ?01:07
LaLOi think it colud be work01:07
harshrealmW: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)01:07
LaLO:P01:07
harshrealmW: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)01:07
wickedpuppy!ops01:07
maddashvallera: "chmod a+rwx /media/hdb1"01:07
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and nalioth01:07
UnIDatagnomefreak: Yes from repositories01:07
gnomefreaksomeone plz boot his ass01:07
harshrealmW: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)01:07
harshrealmhelp?01:07
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BenCsamasama: but there's really no reason to not load them, they don't really do much if they aren't being used01:07
NoUseharshrealm read the /topic! don't paste in here01:07
valleramaddash ok i changed the directory now it is working01:08
maddashlalo: you're welcome01:08
LaLOi think that will work ok01:08
LaLOthanks01:08
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gnomefreakharshrealm,  doing that will get you no help01:08
UnIDatagnomefreak: Yes  from respo01:08
LaLO:P01:08
samasamaBenC: I'm all about minimalization and security, it's not a good habbit to load modules that you don't need IMHO01:08
maddashvallera: you should be able to write into hdb1 - can you?01:08
gnomefreakUnIData, what happens when you type hoard3 in terminal01:08
valleramaddash no the same error01:08
harshrealmi would like to apologise for my ignorance. i will not do it again01:09
maddashvallera: can you open hdb1?01:09
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LaLObye all01:09
NoUseharshrealm try running apt-get update01:09
naliothharshrealm: please do not. the /topic is an integral part of any irc channel. it imparts information pertinent to the channel01:09
gnomefreakharshrealm,  paste your sources list in pastebina nd give us link to it01:09
gimmulfmaybe a little bit offtopic but is "Best Trusted Provider Since 2003" a correct english sentence? :)01:09
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gimmulfbest trusted feels a little bit wierd01:10
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thrushgimmulf: maybe most instead of best01:10
dr_willisUnless theres some sort of "best trusted award"01:10
UnIDatain firefox i type http://localhost/horde3 and see: The requested URL /horde3/ was not found on this server.01:10
bimberigimmulf: unless "Trusted" is some sort of product01:10
valleramaddash no i cant open it it gives me the same error "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hdb1". "01:10
dr_willisbut its all sounds like buzzword hype to me. :P01:10
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gimmulfhmm ok thanks :)01:10
Yod_#ubuntu-br01:11
gnomefreakUnIData, open a terminal and type hoard301:11
vallerathrush thnx i tried the command but still doesnt work01:11
BenCsamasama: I'm all for that too, but in a real desktop system, you're going to have things you don't need, because that's the only way to make the system usable for most people01:11
thrushvallera: u will have to sudo umount /media/hab1 first then run command01:11
gnomefreakUnIData,  im assuming since you just downloaded it you havent configured it yet01:11
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samasamaBenC: Well this system is just for me01:11
samasamaso01:11
thrushhab1 = whatever01:11
maddashvallera: ok, in the terminal, type, "cd /media" followed bt "ls -lg" and paste your output into the pastebin, then give me the link01:11
BenCsamasama: nothing wrong with reducing things as you see fit though, hint, look for the blacklist, and put modules in there you don't want01:11
BenCsamasama: I don't mean multiuser, I mean a distribution that will run for different machines :)01:12
samasamaBenC: Oh yeah... Just wish there was an easier way of managing things like this, this is why I didn't like debian : )01:12
valleramaddash here "lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     6 2005-11-15 02:55 cdrom -> cdrom001:12
valleradrwxr-xr-x   2 root    48 2005-11-15 02:55 cdrom001:12
valleralrwxrwxrwx   1 root     7 2005-11-15 02:55 floppy -> floppy001:12
valleradrwxr-xr-x   2 root    48 2005-11-15 02:55 floppy001:12
valleradr-x------   1 root 40960 2005-11-14 16:55 hdb101:12
valleradrwxr-xr-x  25 root 16384 1970-01-01 02:00 hdb501:12
valleradrwxr-xr-x   2 root    48 2005-11-15 02:55 sda101:12
valleradrwxr-xr-x   2 root    48 2005-11-15 02:55 sda501:12
cafuego!paste01:12
ubotumethinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text01:12
valleradrwxr-xr-x   2 root    48 2005-11-15 02:55 sda601:12
valleradrwxr-xr-x   2 root    48 2005-11-15 02:55 sdb101:12
BenCsamasama: some things like the sony module are hard loaded (since they can't be detected), so that may be harder01:12
vallera"01:12
cafuegovallera: Stop spamming01:12
thrushvallera: your about to get yelled at :)01:13
maddash!tell vallera about pastebin01:13
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vallerasorry01:13
maddashvallera: don't worry, everyone does it once01:13
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bimberiunless the see someone else do it first01:13
bimberi*they01:13
maddashvallera: type, "chmod a+rwx /media/hdb1"01:13
benplautanyone here know anything about LDAP? trying to hook up my laptop as an LDAP client to the school server01:13
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cafuegoYes, it's a mistake you make only once, one way or the other ;-)01:13
BenCsamasama: but even unloading modules isn't going to do a whole lot for you, since there's lots compiled into the kernel aswell....if you're that hardcore, you might just want to roll your own kernel01:14
naliothvallera: everyone does it once. please read the /topic01:14
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maddashcafuego, vallera, nalioth: I meant, "at least once". heh.01:14
BenCbenplaut: what kind of client?01:14
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BenCbenplaut: do you mean for authentication/authorization?01:14
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samasamaBenC: Well of course I'm going to do that... What about services? How I manage service? Is it anything in /etc/init.d  that is +x will be run at boot?01:15
benplautBenC: anything... i don't know where to begin01:15
cafuegomaddash: Well, that's not technically true either.01:15
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valleramaddash still the same error01:15
BenCsamasama: services are in /etc/rc?.d/ (man update-rc.d)01:15
samasamaugh : P01:15
maddashvallera: are you sure the previous command I gave you worked out fine?01:15
cafuegomaddash: Normally you'd go "Hmm, would people mind if I pasted 20 klines of shit? - probably not, let me ask first"01:15
samasamaI hate that system01:15
BenCbenplaut: that's like asking "I need to setup my machine to be a SQL client"01:15
gnomefreakill bbl01:16
maddashcafuego: true. but that was more like 400 bytes.01:16
vallerahere is the output after running the command "chmod: changing permissions of `/media/hdb1': Read-only file system"01:16
BenCbenplaut: apt-cache search openldap01:16
BenCgo from there01:16
benplautBenC: ldap-utils... i've installed it01:16
cafuegovallera: What filesystem type is hdb1?01:16
BenCvallera: what are you trying to do?01:16
maddashvallera: oops. sorry. here's what I meant: "sudo chmod a+rwx /media/hdb1"01:17
BenCbenplaut: openldap-utils?01:17
maddashvallera: what's the output on that one?01:17
benplautBenC: "ldap-utils - OpenLDAP utilities01:17
benplaut"01:17
BenCok, nm01:17
_smd_sorry: my son got a hold of my computer while out of my room01:17
BenCbenplaut: then you're ready...what else do you want to do?01:17
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valleramaddash "chmod: changing permissions of `/media/hdb1': Read-only file system"01:17
cafuegovallera: Is it NTFS?01:17
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maddashvallera: to check if it is NTFS, type in "sudo fdisk -l"01:18
benplautBenC: well... what do i do now? IE, is there a script to set it up, a config file to edit...01:18
BenCif it's ntfs, just mount it with uid=XXX where XXX is your user id01:18
valleramaddash yes NTFS01:18
BenCbenplaut: that depends completely on what you are using ldap for01:18
cafuegoMind you, it will still be read-only, but your user account will be able to read it.01:18
maddashvallera: oooh....I don't thiink linux supports ntfs writing...but you'd still be able to read it:01:19
BenCbenplaut: ldap is as simple as "do this", it's all dependent on the data being stored there and how it's being used01:19
benplautBenC: i think it's meant to be setup in a way that the computer is acting, pretty much as a thin client01:19
cafuegomaddash: It does, but it *will* destroy data.01:19
maddashvallera: "sudo chmod a+rx /media/hdb1"01:19
valleramaddash but i cant even view the contents01:19
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maddashvallera: try the above01:19
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thrushvallera: sudo umount /media/hdb101:19
BenCbenplaut: umm...ldap doesn't do anything like that01:19
BenCbenplaut: it can store usernames and passwords01:19
cafuegovallera: You need to mount the partition with the correct mount options.01:20
valleramadash "chmod: changing permissions of `/media/hdb1': Read-only file system"01:20
maddashcafuego: dude, wtf? have some common sense01:20
benplautBenC: okey dokey... i guess i'll have to get something else out of the netadmin :P01:20
cafuegomaddash: I know the problem and the solution. chmod in any form is not it.01:20
cafuegovallera: Type 'id' in a shell.01:20
maddashcafuego: quite the contrary. look at her permissions under ls.01:20
BenCvallera: sudo umount /dev/hdb1; sudo mount -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb101:20
cafuegomaddash: Yes.01:20
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cafuegomaddash: Like I said,  I know the problem and the solution. chmod in any form is not it.01:21
BenCbenplaut: using ldap for auth, means you will need lots of stuff like PAM modules and PAM configuration01:21
BenCit's a pain01:21
maddashvallera, cafuego: cafuego seems to think he knows what he's talking about, so he'll help you now01:21
cafuegomaddash: 1) chmod doesn't work ona  read-only fs. 2) NTFS doesn't support linux file perms.01:21
vallerawhci command should i run01:21
BenCvallera: use the one I showed you01:21
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cafuegovallera: Running 'id' will give you a line starting with 'uid=...'01:22
BenCit will mount the filesystem so the files/dirs are owned by you01:22
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valleraok worked01:22
cafuegovallera: if you uid is 1000, run the command benc gave you: 'sudo mount -t ntfs -o ui=1000 /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1'01:22
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vallerathank you all01:23
cafuegovallera: That will mount the filesystem read-only, with the default owner being your user account.01:23
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valleracafuego Ok01:23
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cafuegovallera: You can automate that process by adding the correct info to /etc/fstab01:24
thrushi would think breezy could automount this stuff for the user by now..01:24
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capiCrimmAnyone know how to get back files deleted with rm.01:24
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n0odl3where is the xorg.conf file?01:24
BenCvallera: you wont be able to modify anything on that fs, since write support for ntfs is disabled (dangerous)01:24
cafuegocapiCrimm: moun tthe partition in question read-only IMMEDIATELY.01:24
BenCn0odl: /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:24
n0odl3thx01:24
capiCrimmcafuego, how?01:24
darksoulyea i tried running the doom3 demo..then this shit happens http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4548 my best bet is i need new drivers for my 3d card... my 3d card is a Xtasy 9600SE 128MB 8X AGP graphics by ATI01:24
valleraBenC ok thats fine for me01:24
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valleracafuego i ll do that i will add the command01:25
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cafuegocapiCrimm: http://www.billjonas.com/papers/undeletion.html01:25
darksoulany ideas people?01:25
synapsis_hello again =)01:26
darksoulyea i tried running the doom3 demo..then this shit happens http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4548 my best bet is i need new drivers for my 3d card... my 3d card is a Xtasy 9600SE 128MB 8X AGP graphics by ATI01:26
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synapsis_question, there's 18 new updates available, do i want to download these?01:26
eriscohello, i was wondering if anyone could identify my problem with limewire. i correctly followed the guide, but when i try to run limewire, nothing happens. any ideas?01:26
cafuegocapiCrimm: if the files were on the root filesystem, their data has probably already been overwrittenin which case you cannot retrieve it.01:26
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darksoulyea i tried running the doom3 demo..then this shit happens http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4548 my best bet is i need new drivers for my 3d card... my 3d card is a Xtasy 9600SE 128MB 8X AGP graphics by ATI01:26
NoUse!tell darksoul about ati01:26
darksoulthanks01:26
cafuegovallera: You cna edit /etc/fstab as root (cia sudo) using any text editor.01:27
lightbrighti just installed 5.10 Ubuntu and it never created or asked me to create a root account and access!  How can I do this?01:27
NoUse!tell lightbright about root01:27
cafuegovallera: You need to add a line like: "/dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs ro,uid=1000 0 0" - that will automount it at bootup.01:27
capiCrimmcafuego, where do I find what partition I'm on currently?01:27
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cafuegocapiCrimm: Where were the files you deleted?01:27
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capiCrimmcafuego, you mean the folder? in /var01:28
lightbrightNoUse: root is disabled!  Thats a critial error and mistake!  because my mouse doesnt work so I need to edit the text file /X11/ and I CANT because I have no root access :(01:28
capiCrimmI only have one partition for the whole machine, though01:28
cafuegocapiCrimm: Ok. does 'df' list a seperate /var partition?01:28
thrushlightbright: sudo -i for root terminal01:28
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lightbrighthow can I tell Ubuntu to use my serial mouse if I dont have root access?01:28
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LathropWellscafuego - have you tried "testdisk" for partition recovery? http://www.cgsecurity.org/testdisk.html01:28
thrushor sudo command01:28
jake37lightbright do the keyboard work?01:29
maurof01:29
cafuegocapiCrimm: Then there is probably not much point trying to grab any of it. Which files or dirs did you delete?01:29
lightbrightthrush: when I did that it asked me for a password01:29
cafuegoLathropWells: Nope, i have no need.01:29
lightbrightjake37: yes01:29
thrushlightbright: that is your user pass01:29
bimberilightbright: your password01:29
valleracafuego the  "ro,uid=1000" is under the options column right01:29
mauro;01:29
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cafuegovallera: correc01:29
lightbrightthrush: I can get root access by typing  sudo -i  and then entering my user password?01:29
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valleracafuego :)01:29
Knowerrorswine: error while loading shared libraries: libwine.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:29
blackhathttp://pastebin.com/429776, I use XDVDShrink and I get this error when I am trying to rip a dvd to an iso.01:30
KnowerrorsHey all, when installing wine cvs I get that01:30
lightbrightbimberi:  I can get root access by typing  sudo -i  and then entering my user password?01:30
bimberilightbright: yes...01:30
KnowerrorsKnow how to fix it?01:30
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lightbrightbimberi: ah ok well thats good01:30
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lightbrightbimberi:  whats the command to set up my mouse to use serial mouse?01:30
thrushlightbright: or just sudo 'whatever' to run something once gedit or vi etc01:30
synapsis_question, there's 18 new updates available, do i want to download these?01:30
bimberilightbright: better to use it for individual commands (eg. sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf) - the less you're in a root shell the better01:30
cafuegoLathropWells: In this case, downloading and installing testdisk would ovwerwrite the newly free inodes, destroying more of them...01:31
LathropWellscafuego - that doesn't sound like very much fun..01:31
capiCrimmcafuego, I forgot I moved them to a usb stick first. I screwed up and used mv instead of cp. The line for the usb stick is...01:31
bimberilightbright: probably that command i gave an example, then change the device in the mouse section to /dev/ttyS0 (for COM1)01:31
lightbrightbimberi: well it woulnt allow me to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf cause it needed root access01:31
capiCrimm\/dev/sdb1                63584      2158     61426   4% /mnt/usb_stick_101:31
bimberilightbright: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:31
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cafuegoLathropWells: No, inappropriate sue of 'rm' never is ;-)01:32
lightbrightbimberi: dont I need to add the "i" ?  like sudo -i gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:32
LathropWellscafuego - ;)01:32
cafuegocapiCrimm: Then you cna probably just copy them back from the usb stick.01:32
thrushlightbright: just sudo -i gives a root term01:32
bimberilightbright: no, sudo -i gets you a root shell01:32
lightbrightbimberi: whats the difference?01:32
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bimberilightbright: actually use nano instead of gedit, you don't have a mouse of course (D'Oh)01:33
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synapsis_what is a mp3 download client?01:33
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lightbrightthrush: why doesnt ubuntu come with KDE?01:33
thrushlightbright: thats kubuntu if u want it type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-deskto01:33
lightbrightbimberi: I can use keyboard to open file and scroll down using gedit01:33
bimberilightbright: sudo <command> runs the command as root, sudo -i puts you into a root login shell and all commands from then are in the root shell01:33
jake37lightbright...you need kubuntu for that01:33
thrushlightbright: kubuntu-desktop*01:33
LathropWellslightbright KDE is available yhough apt-get kubuntu-desktop01:33
n0odl3im trying to configure my xorg.conf and i need a little help01:33
capiCrimmcafuego, I mean I used mv on accident, screwed up on the copy and rmed them, tried to cp them again and realized they weren't there.01:34
bimberilightbright: probably, but nano is probably easier to use in cli01:34
n0odl3im reading a thread by MetalMusicAddict about setting up a MousePen tablet01:34
lightbrightok!  do you guys prefer gnome over KDE?  if so, why?01:34
bimberilightbright: gawd, don't ask that! :P01:34
jake37Identifier"Configured Mouse"01:34
jake37Driver"mouse"01:34
jake37Option"CorePointer"01:34
jake37Option"Device""/dev/ttyS0"01:34
jake37Option"Protocol""Microsoft"01:34
n0odl3and it says he added a section under "InputDevice" under the "Configured Mouse"01:34
lightbrightthrush: did you mean apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?01:34
n0odl3what does he mean?01:34
thrushlightbright: omg kde like totally sucks ;)01:34
capiCrimmcafuego, what would I use for the name of the partition in the moun command? /mnt/usb_stick_1 ?01:35
thrushyes but sudo in front01:35
jake37lightbright did you get that pm?01:35
n0odl3there is a section called "InputDevice" and it deals with a mouse01:35
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lightbrightthrush: so whenever I want to install something, I need to place sudo in front?  eg. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?01:35
anto9usn0odl3, make sure you backup first with cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup01:35
LathropWellslightbright - GNOME is lighter faster uglier. - i don't need no stinkin' pretty desktop... - lol01:35
synapsis_anyone have an idea for a mp3 download client?01:35
bur[n] eris there a "dapper" channel for those users out there to converse?01:35
lightbrightjake37: what pm?01:35
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bimberijake37: no, we all saw it :/01:35
n0odl3anto9us01:35
anto9usn0odl3, that is the section it means, yes01:35
jake37lol...okay01:35
n0odl3anto9us: ok but how would i access the backup?01:35
thrushlightbright: whenever u need to do something that would normally reqire root01:35
LathropWellsGNOME is still very customisable01:36
jake37my chat command is rusty01:36
lightbrightthrush: so add sudo in front and it will ask for my regular password?01:36
anto9usn0odl3, in case you mess your xorg.conf up you can copy it back01:36
blackhathttp://pastebin.com/429776, I use XDVDShrink and I get this error when I am trying to rip a dvd to an iso.01:36
thrushlightbright: yes01:36
bimberilightbright: yes01:36
lightbrightok cool :)01:36
lightbrightI got my 5 ubuntu CDs today in the mail!  wow, its nice of them to send free CDs01:36
LathropWellsubotu tell lightbright about sudo01:36
sheppardslegionordered mine today... using the Live now01:37
lightbrightAm I going to now get sent a bill for those 5 CD's or some type of marketing marterial trying to sell me something?01:37
thrushlightbright: seems a little odd at first but i prefer sudo now it will remeber your pass for like 15min so u dont have to keep typing it01:37
jake37lightbright > I have only used kde before...but gnome is much more refined and uncluttered01:37
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lightbrightthrush: and that seems safer as I dont spend time as root, yes?01:37
bimberilightbright: no01:37
LathropWellslightbright - shed your windows thiking - free i s free. - no bills01:37
thrushlightbright: yep :)01:37
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n0odl3alright brb01:38
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psychohi01:39
jake37lightbright> i had same prob with mouse...but managed to find solution in like ten minutes on web...lots of help in forums...and even weblogs that people keep01:39
LathropWellsshould we tell  him - religious missionaries are going to visit him for a conversion? - lol - (that is a joke.)01:39
bimberilightbright: no, was referring to "marketing material"01:39
bimberi:)01:39
psychowho now about ftp01:39
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psychoi want to put a file into a remote terminal01:39
thrushpsycho: youre trying to install an ftp server?01:39
psychohelp me please01:39
bimberipsycho: what problem are you having?01:40
lightbrightso I add  Option  "Device"  "/dev/ttyS0"  into the /etc/X11/xorg.conf to get my serial mouse to work?01:40
anto9uspsycho, you can use Places | Connect to Server01:40
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psychoi want to put a file into a remote terminal01:40
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thrushpsycho: unless u really want ftp install openssh-server and then use sftp much more secure01:40
jake37light bright...yes....and delte any entries like option if it is a basic mouse01:40
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josh__how does one enable ftp?01:41
psychoyes01:41
anto9usjosh__, server or client?01:41
jake37lightbright > btw, you can open the xorg file and look at it first...but have to sudo gedit in order to make and save changes01:42
josh__server01:42
psychovsftpd01:42
psychovsftpd01:42
lightbrightjake37: I delete anything with "Options" ?01:42
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anto9usjosh__, ssh is better :)01:42
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jake37lightbright > the option in the mouse section yes01:42
psychohelp me plz01:42
thrushpsycho: thats what I use but I keep it pretty locked down01:42
josh__i just want to know how to enable ftp not ssh just ftp01:42
lightbrightjake37: isnt there a mouseconfig command that will do this for me?01:42
anto9usjosh__, ftpd01:42
thrushpsycho: either sudo apt-get install openssh-server or sudo apt-get install vsftpd01:43
jake37lightbright> scroll back up and use what I pasted  as an example01:43
josh__is there a step by step that i could follow?01:43
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psychovsftpd01:43
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jake37lightbright...config a mouse that does nto initialize or even get recognized is not benificail01:43
Astxistcould someone please help me out, I can't get network settings to remember my phone number it never saves it?01:44
NickolasNameI can't get ipw2200 to load on my laptop (it's got an internal 80211 card, i updated drivers & firmware & 80211 framework and it still doesn't see the card at all).  when i try and 'modprobe ipw2200' i get errors.  can provide more details.  can anyone help?01:44
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psychoi want to put a file into a remote terminal01:44
josh__so if you type vsftpd into a terminal it says command not fout01:44
josh__found01:44
lightbrightjake37  Driver  "mouse"01:44
lightbrightjake37  Option  "CorePointer"01:44
lightbrightjake37  Option  "Device"  "/dev/ttyS0"01:44
lightbrightjake37  Option  "Protocol"  "Microsoft"01:44
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anto9usjosh__, sudo apt-get install vsftpd01:44
lightbrightjake37: so delete all those that says Options?01:44
thrushvsftpd is a server app and needs to be installed first01:44
jake37lightbright> after you make and save changes pres ctrl+alt+backspace to restart x and mouse should work01:45
sheppardslegionwhat is the super user password on the Live version01:45
psychovsftpd its installed01:45
jake37lightbright...yes...all options in the mouse section01:45
lightbrightjake37 lightbright...config a mouse that does nto initialize or even get recognized is not benificail <-- lol, it is for people whos mouse doesnt work :P01:45
josh__it can't find the package01:45
bimberilightbright: no, just the "Device" bit - what you (naughtily) pasted looks good01:45
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sheppardslegionsu password?01:46
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bimberisheppardslegion: there is none, use sudo01:46
lightbrightjake37: If I delete all those Options, how will it know to use my mouse on "Device"  "/dev/ttyS0" ???01:46
Nihil85hallo! i cannot access my shared folder. the window chrashes. what's the problem? how can i fix it?01:46
sheppardslegiontnks01:46
bimberisheppardslegion: sudo -i if you want a root shell01:46
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bimberisheppardslegion: np :)01:46
anto9usjosh__, it's in the main repository, try again after sudo apt-get update01:46
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lightbrightbimberi: If I delete the part:  Option  "Device"  "/dev/ttyS0"  how will it know to use my mouse on   "/dev/ttyS0" ?01:47
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josh__still can't find it01:47
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jake37lightbright > the options i have left in the mouse section are : corepointer, device andprotocol...just leave those01:47
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sheppardslegiongreat thanks bimb..01:48
jake37make protocol "Microsoft"01:48
lightbrightjake37: ok but I thought you said to delete them all :P01:48
lightbrightok01:48
ryanpgjoin #bots-ubuntu01:48
josh__is there a repository that i could add to get more updates01:48
ryanpgdoh01:48
ryanpg:)01:48
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eriscohow can i play a .mid?01:48
jake37lightbright> sorry...was thinking options like axis thingy and such...lol01:48
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ryanpgubotu, bot abuse?01:49
ubotusomebody said bot abuse was a bannable offense01:49
bimberilightbright: sorry, confusing you aren't I/we, you will need that line01:49
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lightbrightbimberi: ok01:49
anto9usjosh__, it's definitely in the main section the package is called vsftpd01:49
ryanpggosh darn it... where can I play with the bots?01:49
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eriscono support for .mid?01:49
lightbrightnext question I have is.. :)  How can I now get ubuntu to dial out using my modem to the Internet?01:49
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jake37dial up?01:50
mustard5lightbright, what type of modem you got?01:50
lightbrightjake37: yes01:50
steigweiswhat does the &U parameter mean at the end of the "gimp %U" command?01:50
josh__the update manager says that i have all the updates but i can't get some packages like these i'm just wondering if there was a repository that i was missing01:50
lightbrightmustard5: external 56k01:50
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steigweisi dont know what U does01:50
oofnikhey folks i'm back.. um yeah compiling still locks up my system to those who were here earlier01:50
ryanpgubotu, ubuntu bots01:50
uboturyanpg: Are you smoking crack?01:50
lightbrightjake37: yes dial up, how can I dial out to my ISP?01:50
mustard5lightbright, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto01:50
lightbrightwhy didnt they add a dial out like Mepis did for example?01:51
jake37lightbright> not sure...been awhile since I had to config a modem01:51
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lightbrightI thought Ubuntu was supposed to be easy like Ms windows :P  mepis seems easier01:51
mustard5lightbright, once you are online, you can get gnome-ppp from the repositories01:51
lightbrightmustard5: catch 2201:51
oofnikanyone here have experience with both ubuntu and gentoo?01:51
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foxgamerHi all.01:51
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oofniki'm trying to decide between upgrading to breezy or switching to gentoo01:52
jake37lightbright> wouldn't they have gnome-ppp on the cd?01:52
mustard5lightbright, before getting online you have command line to get online with dialup01:52
lightbrightmustard5: i need gnome-ppp to dial out and I need to dial out to get gnome-ppp :P  catch 22!  thats limited thinking from the Ubuntu developers :(01:52
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lightbrightjake37: doesnt seem that way01:52
foxgamerIn a never ending quest to get my ati card working on ubuntu64, I am one step closer. Is there someone with technical knowledge that would be able to help me progress? TIA01:52
mustard5lightbright, see link above that I showed you..01:52
lightbrightmustard5: whats command line?01:52
bob2oofnik: way simpler if you just ask your question01:52
bimberilightbright: did you try System -> Administration -> Networking ?01:52
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mustard5lightbright, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto01:52
lightbrightbimberi: yeah looked around there too01:53
bob2foxgamer: by "working" do you mean "using binary only drivers"?01:53
lightbrightmustard5: ok brb01:53
mustard5lightbright, its as easy as pie to  do01:53
thrushlightbright: type sudo network-admin or do what bimberi said01:53
jake37lightbright...when you get mouse working you will be able to navigate desktop and use synaptic to update and install gnome-ppp if it is there01:53
n0odl3help! i messed up my xorg.conf file! i backed it up but how do i access it?01:53
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lightbrightok01:53
anto9ussteigweis, it's a variable, I think to indicate the filename if you drag a file onto the gimp icon01:53
oofnikbob2 no real question really, i just want to hear any experiences people might have with both01:53
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oofnikif they reccomend ubuntu over gentoo or vice versa01:53
bob2oofnik: you will waste far less time with ubuntu01:53
steigweisanto9us: aha, interesting, ty01:54
foxgamerbob2: It works (as I'm using it now) but setting it up using the ati drivers. I have got a step closer in the fact that I can now have a higher res. with better frame rate, but the fps haven't changed.01:54
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bob2oofnik: if all you want to do i sfuck around, use gentoo01:54
n0odl3how can i access my backup file?01:54
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bob2oofnik: if you actually do useful work, debian or ubuntu01:54
oofnikbob2 that's what i'm thinking01:54
bob2foxgamer: where "fps" = ?01:54
n0odl3i backed it up as /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup01:54
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oofnikgentoo is for people who like to mess with stuff.. heh01:54
n0odl3i tried to vi it but it doesnt show up01:54
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n0odl3please help!01:54
oofniki like a system that works01:54
jeanluchey where can I get quake for linux ?01:54
harshrealmhello the link for my pasting is: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/454901:54
foxgamerfps on the 64bit version I have are around 15. on 32bit version they are around 11501:54
oofnikok next question, should i upgrade to breezy from hoary or wipe my system and back stuff up then upgrade?01:55
harshrealm(my sources.list01:55
n0odl3please help me01:55
cyphasehow do you allow a computer to access a webmin server on another box?01:55
harshrealmssh01:55
bob2foxgamer: which is of no use01:55
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bob2foxgamer: are you using the same program to measure this?01:55
bob2jeanluc: install it with synaptic01:55
cyphaseharshrealm, besides that01:56
oofnikn0odl3 look around in the directory01:56
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oofnikmaybe you saved it somewhere else01:56
foxgamerbob2: I have been comparing it with the atunnel screensaver.01:56
n0odl3can someone help me? i dont know how to access my xorg.conf backup01:56
n0odl3i cant boot into gnome!01:56
StDellisI'm looking for a program for linux that works like Maple for windows? Can someone help me please!01:56
n0odl3im in the shell help!01:56
oofnikok n0odl3 chill01:56
bob2StDellis: maple01:56
harshrealmi do not know (i am not qualified to answer your question, & should not have)01:56
oofnikcd /etc/X1101:56
bob2StDellis: emacs calc is useful for symbolic stuff, too01:56
jeanlucbob2 is there quake 3? or is it only 2?01:56
bob2jeanluc: ...you can check01:57
anto9usn0odl3, cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:57
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StDelliswhere can I download maple for linux?01:57
bob2afaik no one has package quake3 yet01:57
n0odl3anto9us: this will fix it?01:57
jeanlucya I installed the quake 2 data packadge, now how do I run it?01:57
anto9usn0odl3, if you ran the command I told you earlier which was the reverse of that, yes01:57
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bob2StDellis: the mapl company sells it01:58
anto9usn0odl3, needs sudo01:58
n0odl3anto9us: ok ill do that01:58
n0odl3anto9us: thanx... uhh how do i exit out of irssi?01:58
fletch33anyone here using azureus01:58
fletch33mine makes my internet stopworking and it wont mximize size01:58
thrushn0odl3: /quit01:59
steigweisCONFUSED: when i run gimp with "LANGUAGE=de_DE gimp" from console it starts correctly.. BBUT when i add the "LANGUAGE=de_DE gimp" line to the command field in the gnome application menu, there comes an error, that gimp could noct be found.. why?01:59
anto9usn0odl3, type /quit01:59
n0odl3k thnx02:00
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harshrealmhello i need help, i pasted my sources.list @ http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4549 , but do not know why i can not get...02:00
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foxgamerbob2, The glxgears does not produce any fps details for me to look at02:00
bob2foxgamer: yes, that's deliberate02:00
bob2foxgamer: all you care about is if glxinfo says you have direct rendering or not02:00
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steigweisharshrealm: the mirrormax backportserver is down imho02:01
bob2harshrealm: get rid of everything mentioning 'backports'02:01
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mgcrossany enemy territory (linux) users out there..having some strange problems02:01
harshrealmi see02:01
mgcrosshelp?02:01
steigweisharshrealm: you need another backportsource, if you need bp02:01
capiCrimmcafuego, debugfs is giving me "/dev/sdb1: Bad magic number in super-block while opening filesystem", any clue what to do?02:02
lightbrightwhats difference between sudo -s and sudo -i ?02:02
bob2the backport repoitores need a password02:02
cyphasehas anyone else notices that Breezy is harder to set up as a server then Hoary?02:02
cyphasenoticed*02:02
steigweislightbright: man sudo02:02
bob2and it should be yesiwillnotaskforhelpbecauseiwon'tuseitunlessiknowhowitworks02:02
bob2cyphase: no02:02
lightbrightsteigweis: you have any ideas on top of your head?02:02
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cafuego"I thought it was an incompatibility issue not a incapability issue."02:02
bob2haha02:03
cafuego- Mother in law02:03
bob2lightbright: one gives you a login shell, one does not02:03
bob2lightbright: man bash, InVOCATION section02:03
lightbrightbob2: ok :)02:03
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mgcrossI know that ET is not a mission critical app, but I've looked for my own answers and can't find any02:03
cyphasebob2, do you use webmin?02:03
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xed2yo brian baroeidan here ? (however its spelled)_02:03
bob2mgcross: then wait and perhaps someone will jump up02:03
bob2cyphase: haha no02:03
lightbrighthow can I get ubuntu to play DVD and VOB and Mpeg files?02:03
foxgamerbob2, I have just checked and I do not have direct rendering.02:03
bob2mgcross: better still would be asking your question already02:04
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bob2lightbright: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:04
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synapsis_does anyone here use gaim, and find that when sending files, that transfer rates are terribly low?02:04
cyphasebob2, do you use anything besides a text editor?02:04
cyphaselol02:04
mgcrossbob2: I'll try to be patient ;-D02:04
lightbrightdoes Ubuntu have access to every program thats available for Debian?02:04
bob2cyphase: yes02:04
bob2lightbright: no02:04
bob2lightbright: but mostly02:04
mr-russanybody here use qmail with ubuntu?02:04
xed2synapsis, its the aim oscar protocol, it sucks and is slow02:04
xed2its normal02:04
bob2mr-russ: #qmail02:04
cyphasebob2, like..02:04
xed2or your client thats receiving could have terrible download02:04
xed2or!02:04
synapsis_xed2: i'm on the msn network though, odes that matter?02:04
bob2mr-russ: I'd strongly recommend against using it of you have to ask for help, tho02:04
steigweisCONFUSED: when i run gimp with "LANGUAGE=de_DE gimp" from console it starts correctly.. BBUT when i add the "LANGUAGE=de_DE gimp" line to the command field in the gnome application menu, there comes an error, that gimp could noct be found.. why?02:04
lightbrightbob2: how can I get a listing of ALL apps etc available for install for Ubuntu 5.10?02:04
mr-russbob2: they won't help me build qmail for debian/ubuntu will they?02:04
xed2just be leet and use irc02:04
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bob2cyphase: like my shell, and my browser and...02:05
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xed2synapsis:msn might be screwing with you, im not sure02:05
cyphaselol02:05
bimberilightbright: http://packages.ubuntu.com02:05
mr-russbob2: I know qmail inside out, it's just getting ubuntu to build the binaries.02:05
xed2anyhow, dcc send via irc is always the best02:05
capiCrimmdebugfs is giving me "/dev/sdb1: Bad magic number in super-block while opening filesystem", any clue what to do?02:05
synapsis_xed2: can't be l33t, btu they have great connection speeds02:05
bob2mr-russ: quite possibly, but neither will here, probably02:05
mgcrossbob2: k, I can play just fine, but when I try to start a listen server I get a signal 1102:05
lightbrightbimberi: thaNKS02:05
n0odl3anto9us: it worked thank you02:05
bob2mr-russ: get qmail-src and read it's instructions?02:05
xed2again, im looking for brian B from SDHS  ?02:05
mr-russoh well, just do some evil hacks and make it work.02:05
bob2xed2: this does not appear to have anything to do with ubuntu?02:05
synapsis_xed2: i recall using msn, and it said "experiencing slow download speeds?  check your firewall" however i don't know how to even do that02:05
xed2sorry02:05
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xed2 he needs help with ubunutu02:05
mgcrossbob2: I'd really like to be able to play with/against my son02:05
anto9usn0odl3, yw02:05
xed2but i dont know his nick in here02:05
bob2capiCrimm: sounds like disk failing02:06
n0odl3anto9us: im planning to try to get up tablet to work once again... do i have to xorg.conf.backup thing again02:06
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n0odl3xed2: im brain B02:06
xed2there you are02:06
oofnikdoes anyone experience really bad memory leaks using gdesklets?02:06
xed2finally i almost got kicked02:06
mr-russbob2: yes, but it doesn't create the groups before building the package, it does it in the postinst script, which is too late for qmail-src.  Needs to be done before the compile stage.02:06
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xed2 anyhow synapsis, i dont think its the firewall, that usually means it plain out doesnt even connect/ send02:06
oofniki can boot with 150MB memory used, not touch my system for 8 hours, come back and find 250MB used..02:06
bob2mr-russ: qmail depends on groups being preset on the system at *build* time?02:06
oofnikwith nothing running02:06
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bob2oofnik: do you really know what the output of 'free -m' means?02:06
n0odl3xed2: is taht you pelteki?02:06
bob2oofnik: ie you know about cache, right?02:07
xed2synapsis: but to check i would advise checking out the port forwarding site on how to access your gate way, alsso the firewall and see if you find any options in there02:07
xed2no02:07
xed2its freakin munjal02:07
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mr-russbob2: yes, if you know qmail, you that is does :)  on debain I've successfully built qmail out of the box, but not on ubuntu.02:07
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n0odl3xed2:oh hey02:07
xed2use the pm window02:07
bob2wow, whack02:07
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lightbrightif I want to install firestarter, I type?  sudo apt-get install firestarter ?02:07
n0odl3xed:i fixed the problem... good thing i backuped my xorg02:07
xed2and besides, you;re in the ubuntu channel, yet on the msn network ? "synapsis .... ahaha02:08
mustard5lightbright, correct02:08
xed2oh sweet and smart move noodle02:08
harshrealmthank you for your help02:08
n0odl3xed:im on msn network?02:08
xed2noodle:still on irssi or chat ?02:08
bob2lightbright: yes, but there's little reason to install it on a desktop02:08
xed2not you noodle, synapsis02:08
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n0odl3xed2:no im on xchat02:08
xed2ah  thought so02:08
n0odl3xed2: why dont you just switch to ubuntu today?02:08
xed2irssi is sweetness02:08
xed2eh, i got a huge APES final tommororw02:09
xed2and the physics final we both have on friday02:09
lightbrightbob2: why?02:09
bob2steigweis: uh, pick one channel02:09
n0odl3xed2:cool but just let it install and let it go for now02:09
synapsis_xed2: thanks, where can i find the port forwarding site?02:09
lightbrightmustard5: so everything same as Debian, but I just always add sudo in front?02:09
bob2lightbright: because there's no point?02:09
n0odl3xed2:theres not much you have to do to install it anyway02:09
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steigweisbob2: hehe, got me02:09
xed2synapsis: google it, im not being mean, but when teaching some technology its always good to teach to learn, if you get my drigft02:09
lightbrightmustard5: and to remove something?  sudo apt-get remove --purge foo ?02:09
xed2welll i know noodle, but we both have that huge physics final.... eh02:10
lightbrightbob2: I need a firewall as I do a lot of netbanking and trading money etc etc02:10
mustard5lightbright, the --purge will remove config settings, its optional02:10
lightbrightmustard5: yes but the rest is ok?02:10
n0odl3xed2: yeah... im studying for it too... and taht math thing tommorow02:10
bob2lightbright: no02:10
mustard5lightbright, yep02:10
bob2lightbright: that is not the case at all02:10
lightbrightbob2: why?02:10
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bob2and it's a shame windows has removed people's common sense02:10
bob2lightbright: what does a firewall do?02:10
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lightbrightbob2:  are you telling me i never need a firewall?02:10
n0odl3xed2: man what did i do wrong?02:10
cyphaseanybody hear know anything about Ubuntu Server Dapper?02:10
bob2lightbright: not at all02:11
xed2the math is easy noodle, just remember the trig ratios for the 30 degree and 45 degree triangle and you're set02:11
lightbrightbob2: it stops people sending me ICMP attacks too02:11
bob2cyphase: it'll be like breezy, but 6 months newer02:11
cyphaselol02:11
bob2lightbright: no, that's not the case at all02:11
cyphasei see..02:11
bob2cyphase: and supported for 5 years02:11
cyphaseyea02:11
lightbrightbob2: doesnt the firewall stop a hacker keylogging me?02:11
cyphasemaybe i just forgot..02:11
bob2lightbright: no, not at all02:11
n0odl3can someone help me with setting up a pointer device tablet? here is the link that has the instructions im following: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2515102:11
bob2lightbright: this is not windows02:11
mr-russbob2: thanks for your help.  I little hacking and we are away :)02:11
lightbrightbob2: and doesnt the firewall stop a hacker getting my passwords for my bank website etc?02:11
cyphasebut i swear Breezy seems harder to set up as a server then hoary02:11
n0odl3help if your interested02:11
bob2lightbright: if someone has trojaned your system, you have already lost02:11
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bob2lightbright: no, it doesn't do that either02:11
bob2cyphase: how?02:11
bob2cyphase: or are you just refering to webmin?02:12
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xed2well im out for noodle, peace02:12
bob2lightbright: all it does is stop network packets02:12
cyphaseok, maybe i am02:12
lightbrightbob2:  but wont the firewall stoip the person trojaned my system in the first place?02:12
cyphase:D02:12
bob2lightbright: which is of no use02:12
bob2lightbright: no02:12
cyphasei admit02:12
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lightbrightbob2:  do you run a firewall?02:12
bob2lightbright: how would they get in to begin with?02:12
bob2lightbright: not on my desktop02:12
lightbrightbob2:  cant they get in through an open port that firewall closes?02:12
cyphasei guess i grew to reliant on webmin..02:12
cyphaseshame on me :)02:12
tristanmikethe only firewall i have is through my router02:12
bob2lightbright: no02:13
lightbrightbob2: does it hurt if I run firestarter? :)02:13
bob2lightbright: this is not windows02:13
n0odl3can anyone help me with the thread? do i just copy and paste that code?02:13
n0odl3or where do i edit?02:13
bob2lightbright: ubuntu doesn't have anything listening on the network by default02:13
bob2lightbright: so there's nothing for anyone to try to attack02:13
lightbrightbob2:  ok02:13
bob2lightbright: therefore no need for a firewall02:13
markwn0odl3: looking back a page, I'm not sure what your asking.02:13
lightbrightbob2: ok but does it hurt if I run firestarter? :) heh02:13
bob2lightbright: it doesn't hurt except in that it's pointless and makes things more complicated02:13
markwah, pointer device.02:13
lightbrightbob2:  ok thanks for the learning02:13
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n0odl3markw:do you see what i mean? do i just copy and paste that under the InputDevice thing?02:14
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markwn0odl3: that's just an input device stanza out of xorg.conf or XF86Config-402:16
n0odl3markw:so what does that entail exactly?02:16
markwdo this.02:16
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lightbrightcan gnome do everything KDE can?02:17
n0odl3markw:can you hold on to taht thought02:17
markwn0odl3: do this.    open a terminal, and type cat /dev/input/event402:17
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n0odl3markw:i have to go to an interview02:17
n0odl3markw: a job interveiw sorry about this02:17
markwthen go to your pad and give it some scribbles and see if you get garbage from that command.02:17
markwn0odl3: hope it's not a linux admin position. :)02:17
bob2lightbright: probably02:17
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InchabodIs there a shockwave for ubuntu?02:19
NoUseInchabod as in the browser plugin?02:19
synapsis_xed2: well i figured out something on my own.  gaim isn't true p2p when sending files over msn, because files are first sent to the msn server, then relayed to the other client02:19
InchabodNoUse, Yeah02:19
NoUseInchabod yeah02:19
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xed2yes02:20
xed2good poiint syanpsis02:20
xed2i didnt think about that02:20
xed2but yes that is true02:20
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InchabodNoUse, Shockwave not flash you know?02:20
xed2thats why you gotta go with irc =P02:20
lightbrighthow can I get Ubuntu to use my Video Card?02:20
NoUseInchabod it's in synaptic02:20
Inchabodkk02:21
bob2lightbright: bee more specific02:21
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synapsis_xed2: hahaha, man i honestly wish i could send everything through irc, it would be so much easier, but you know the nature of the net02:21
xed2well02:21
xed2freak02:21
xed2just tell any noob you come across02:21
xed2 to install mirc02:21
xed2and /server SERVER02:21
Gorthto anyone willing to help: my x-chat sound doesn't work at all?!02:21
xed2and /j #channel02:21
GTroyanyone know of a decent mp3 ripper?02:22
xed2they dont have to do anything else02:22
synapsis_xed2: thats too complex for these kids at university =)02:22
xed2ahaha02:22
xed2i know what you mean02:22
xed2im in high school02:22
xed2its terrible02:22
NoUseGTroy grip always works well02:22
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xed2but i force those two wonderful commands on them anyways02:22
lightbrightbob2: at installartion Ubuntu chose VESA and I want to change it to use my proper video card, how?02:22
xed2if only someone could nicely port irssi to win32, now that would be sweeetness02:22
bob2lightbright: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:22
GTroyNoUse: thanks02:22
lightbrightbob2:  ok thanks02:22
bob2it presumably runs under cygwin02:22
InchabodNoUse, What is it called?02:22
Gorthalso, do i need to reformat before updating to breezy??02:22
lightbrightbob2:  and how do I change the Hz from 60 to 85Hz?02:22
synapsis_xed2: wish i could figure out how to write a decent p2p script for gaim02:23
NoUseInchabod maybe I'm wrong, whats the diff between flash and shockwave?02:23
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InchabodTheres quite a big difference >.<02:23
NoUseInchabod you said it was a browser plugin02:23
mr-russwhere can I find docs on creating a packages distribution point?02:23
InchabodIt is.02:23
InchabodFor IE.02:24
InchabodNot for Firefox.02:24
lightbrightbob2:  how do I change the Hz on my monitor from 60 to 85Hz?02:24
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synapsis_also question, whenever i set my monitor to the sizing of the screen, ubuntu doesn't remember these settings02:24
NoUseInchabod well if its only for IE, how do you expect it to run in Linux?02:24
InchabodThat's why I asked.02:24
Inchabod:P02:24
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GorthnoUse: wine :D02:24
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InchabodGorth, I'm not going to wine IE?02:24
NoUse!shockwave02:24
ubotuUnfortunately there is no shockwave available for Linux (unless you use wine).  Please lobby Macromedia!02:24
NoUseyeah I guess not02:24
Gorthi was kidding ;02:24
Gorth:(02:24
drew_could someone help me make a symbolic link?  my browser is hating me and I don't know what the command is.02:25
Inchabodbah02:25
lightbrightwhats the best program to use to play DVD and Mpeg and Vob files?02:25
gimmulfdrew_:  man ln02:25
drew_thanks02:25
Gorthanywho, does anyone else have problems with sound in x-chat or know how to fix them?02:25
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Gorthor recommend any other IRC programs?02:26
drew_gimmulf, which directory do you list first?  The link or where it will actually store the files?02:26
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bob2lightbright: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:26
xed2oh ya, no0dl3, i got a freakin PCI capure card02:26
xed2i can cleanly convert your breakdance video to dvd02:26
Astxist_yay fixed my problem ^_^02:26
sfsindeegorth:  i use gaim for IRC  -not as full featured but does the job. :)02:26
bimberilightbright: try out totem (installed by default), if not happy look at mplayer, vlc, xine ...02:26
gimmulfdrew_:  first target then link name02:27
royhey everyone I have ubuntu 5.10 but in synaptic kubuntu doesnt show up02:27
bimberiubotu tell lightbright about dvd02:27
gimmulfdrew_:   ln [OPTION] ... TARGET [LINK_NAME] 02:27
royhow can i get it to show up?02:27
drew_gimmulf,  thanks02:27
Astxist_is it just me or is the network settings (applet?) a little broken?02:27
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synapsis_question, anyone know anything about monitor problems?02:27
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gimmulfdrew_:  use -s as option for symbolic02:27
lightbrightbob2:  thanks again02:27
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Gorththanks sfsindee02:28
Tufriastanyone got a link to the packages included in kubuntu?02:28
Gorthsfsindee: where do i get to the IRC in gaim?!02:28
roydoes kubuntu-desktop show up in synaptic by default or do I have to do something...?02:28
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lightbrightbimberi:  do they need libdvdcss2?02:28
drew_gimmulf, ln: `/media/music/dc/torrent/': hard link not allowed for directory02:28
synapsis_anyoen know how to eject a usbkey safely?02:28
drew_gimmulf, help?02:28
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threadDid anyone else get their cd's from shipit? I ordered 55 discs, and I just received an envelope with 1 i386 and 1 x86_6402:29
Tufriastsynapsis just unmount i'd suppose02:29
lightbrightthread: 55? :P02:29
synapsis_Tufriast: i run into an error02:29
Tufriasttry unmounting as root02:29
sfsindeegorth:  its just a matter of adding an IRC account.  tools>accounts>add02:29
roy55!??? probably got stopped by cutsoms02:29
threadlightbright: oh wow.. I remember the light bright! that toy from long ago02:29
gimmulfdrew_:  did you use -s ?02:29
synapsis_Tufriast: how02:29
Gorthsfsindee: doh! thanks02:29
eNiNjAlol...customs02:29
bimberilightbright: usually02:29
naliothLjL: you here?02:29
drew_gimmulf, nope, do I just put that on the end?02:29
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lightbrightroy: or a lot of customs guys are now running Ubuntu :)02:29
mustard5synapsis_, I have read something about using the sync command too02:29
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synapsis_mustard5: regarding the usbkey?02:30
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lightbrightthread:  so you like my nick then? :)02:30
drew_gimmulf, ln /media/music/dc/torrent /home/drew/torrent -s ?02:30
threadso yeah... just wondering if there's something I don't know...02:30
gimmulfdrew_:  ln -s where/to/ link_name02:30
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mustard5synapsis_, yep read 'man sync'02:30
drew_gimmulf, ok, thanks02:30
synapsis_k02:30
Tufriastthere is command do do it...synapsis...02:30
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gimmulfdrew_:  if you check the man it says: ln [OPTION] ... TARGET [LINK_NAME] 02:30
lightbrightthread: I would say that a lot of customs guys are now running Ubuntu :)02:30
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Gorthwelp, thanks for the help, guys!02:31
drew_gimmulf, thanks, I just didn't understand that cus i'm an idiot02:31
Gorthi'll cy'all later02:31
superbeastcan some1 help me with ati drivers?02:31
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lightbrightcan I install Konqueror?02:31
ToccyGuys is there a ubuntu social?02:31
Tufriastis the package list for ubuntu in the wiki02:31
bimberilightbright: sure02:32
Tufriastif you are using kubuntu lightbright02:32
lightbrightbimberi:  I am used to Konq as a file manager02:32
superbeastcan someone helpo me get americas army working?02:32
Tufriastjust type a web page in the address bar02:32
bimberilightbright: it will bring in a number of kde libraries02:32
lightbrightTufriast: I have to install KDE to use Konqueror as a file manager?02:32
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synapsis_mustard5: i typed man sync, it said that there's 45 lines, however i can only get down to line 1802:32
lightbrightbimberi:  can I install Konq without installing the whole KDE?02:32
Tufriastyes lightbright02:33
Tufriastcant do it02:33
Tufriastsorry, it's KDE only02:33
mustard5synapsis_, page up and page down02:33
synapsis_mustard5: smart =D02:33
LjLlightbright: yes, but it will install a lot of KDE dependencies anyway02:33
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mustard5synapsis_, q to exit02:33
lightbrightTufriast: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:33
synapsis_nope, thats as far as i can go =(02:33
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lightbrightLjL: ok02:33
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roylightbright: I'm trying to install kubuntu-desktop too02:33
alx_what prog to install to connect via ssh02:33
roybut i get "E: Invalid operation kubuntu-desktop02:33
roy"02:33
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Agrajagalx_: ssh02:34
Tufriasteh, yeah, is it worth it lightbright? I'd just stick with good ol' Firefox - I use kde now, and it's decent....but im not givin' up my extensios02:34
lightbrightcan I install kubuntu-desktop KDE on modem?  how much needs to be insatlled?02:34
Tufriastextensions*02:34
alx_not open shh ^02:34
alx_\?02:34
Astxist_AdBlockPlus :)02:34
nerdzyboyhi02:34
alx_something like that02:34
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lightbrightTufriast: I use Firefox, im talking about file manager02:34
Tufriastyeah, adblock, and all-in-one gestures = win02:34
Agrajagalx_: it's the same program02:34
nerdzyboyI'm trying to use ubuntu on a laptop...02:34
lightbrightI dont want to use Konmqueror as web brwoers02:34
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lightbrightdoes Gnome have a file manager similar to Konqueror that has 2 split windows?02:35
nerdzyboywhen I plug a second monitor the image looked squashed (horizontally), I tried changing the resolution but no luck...02:35
nerdzyboyHow can I get this right?02:35
bimberilightbright: probably infeasible, you can see by typing "aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" (146M for me)02:35
bimberilightbright: er, sudo aptitude...02:36
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mustard5synapsis_, my sync manual is basically all on one page02:36
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mustard5synapsis_, there is not much else to read02:36
nerdzyboy???02:37
Tufriastanyone know where i can get a package list of kubuntu02:37
synapsis_mustard5: yeah, doesn't give me a lot to go on02:37
eriscocan anyone please help me get limewire working? it is absolutely vital02:37
Tufriastim just checking to see that oo.org and the vitals are there02:37
mustard5synapsis_, basically I think you just type sync in terminal02:37
Tufriasterisco you can just download it and run it02:37
NoUse!tell erisco about limewire02:37
Tufriast!tell02:37
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nerdzyboyAnyone? Please?02:38
synapsis_mustard5: did, didn't do nothing =)02:38
lightbrightbimberi: So does Gnome have a file manager where I can browse files and copy from one place to another etc, that is similar to Konqueror that has 2 split windows?02:38
eriscono, i have java installed correctly. i have limewire installed correctly... no go when i hit the runLime.sh02:38
mustard5synapsis_, well it probably does. :)02:38
synapsis_hahaha02:38
gimmulfHow can i check how many users my webhost will handle?02:38
NoUseerisco can you be more specific than "no go"?02:38
bimberilightbright: i don't know sorry02:39
mustard5synapsis_, when I did it I could here my hard drive doing something for a second02:39
lightbrightbimberi:  ok ty anyway02:39
lightbrightanyone else know?02:39
eriscoNoUse, not really. nothing happens, I execute it... and nothing. literally.02:39
bimberilightbright: i use nautilus but i don't know about the split windows thang02:39
lightbrightbimberi:  what do you use to browse and copy etc etc?02:39
NoUseerisco is the java executable in your path?02:39
lightbrightbimberi:  how do you copy stuff from 1 hard drive to another etc>?02:39
Tufriastquit02:39
mustard5synapsis_, I have my side case open all the time so I can hear everything my hard drive is doing :)02:39
eriscoNoUse, you mean permissions?02:39
bimberibimberi: i mostly use the cli for that sort of thing02:40
eriscoNoUse, what i the command for that again?02:40
NoUseerisco no, I mean can you run java from the shell and get the java vm02:40
synapsis_mustard5: very smart idea.  i have a dell system which i ordered, so i don't have an option of opening anything =)02:40
eriscoNoUse, i doubt it but i might ahve missed that step02:40
bimberilightbright: er, s/bimberi/lightbright/ (gawd, did it again)02:40
mustard5synapsis_, well its not good for keeping dust out ;)02:40
NoUseerisco what happens when you run 'java' from the shell?02:40
eriscojava shell? never heard of it02:40
eriscoNoUse, how do I get into it?02:40
synapsis_mustard5: hahahha, yeah that could be trouble =)02:40
mustard5synapsis_, I'm just too lazy and don't like putting it back on02:41
lightbrightbimberi: what?02:41
NoUseerisco I think the console is under accessories02:41
synapsis_mustard5: i don't blaim you =D02:41
eriscoNoUse, nope02:41
eriscoNoUse, is there not a terminal command?02:41
lightbrightI need k3b too it seems02:41
bimberilightbright: nvm, i answered your question with a post starting with "bimberi:" (D'Oh)02:41
lightbrightbimberi:  hehe ;)02:41
mustard5synapsis_, I have scary thoughts of something blowing up inside and taking an eye out :P02:42
lightbrightbimberi: whats nvm?02:42
NoUseerisco you want to pull up the Terminal02:42
bimberinever mind02:42
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eriscoNoUse, i jst did02:42
NoUseerisco its under accessories on my machine02:42
eriscoNoUse, not on mine02:42
NoUseerisco and when you run 'java'?02:42
eriscoNoUse, you using 5.10?02:42
NoUseerisco yeah02:42
eriscoNoUse, well i can run java02:42
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eriscoNoUse, it works fine with mozilla02:42
Mark_Echoafter compiling Knzb. Newer versions use the KDE XML GUI framework, which02:42
Mark_Echorequires that the knzbui.rc file is correctly placed in $KDEDIRS.02:42
NoUsehave you tried running runLime.sh from the Terminal?02:42
Mark_EchoWhere do I locate $KDEDIRS ???02:43
Mark_EchoI just compiled knzb.. and in the install notes, he mentions I should paste a file into $KDEDIRS !??!02:43
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anto9usMark_Echo, no pun but have you tried to echo it?02:43
Mark_Echoyup02:43
Mark_Echoit says nothing02:43
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anto9usMark_Echo, then it isn't set02:44
Mark_Echono path02:44
gandiHi. I'm trying to install Kubuntu 5.10 and after the first reboot it loops on postinstall configuration of apt02:44
gandiit asks me if I want to add another apt source, I say NO02:44
Mark_Echoim new to linux sorry :/ I dunno what to do.. I just want knzb to wokrk02:44
gandiand it configures apps and asks for it once more02:44
Mark_Echowork*02:44
eriscosigh.... looking for the limewire folder02:44
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eriscofound it02:44
gandiany idea on how to fix it/workaround?02:44
mustard5gandi, very strange02:44
anto9usMark_Echo, what is knzb?02:44
haTemi'm having a strange problem, my "sudo" appears to be broken.. no matter what command i run with it, nothing happens (no errors, can't ctrl-c)... any ideas?02:44
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Mark_Echoit's a newsreader client, good for nzb files (headers as one)02:45
mustard5haTem, have you just installed ?02:45
switchcatweird, I've got a partially installed system that SEEMS to work.  I've had a major headache with CDs I've written from three different downloads not getting through the entire process.  So now I have a box that I'm not sure what is installed on it, and for which I have no root password...02:45
user01how do i fix lilo so that there is a boot menu?  right now it is just automatically booting into linux02:45
gandimustard5: I'm in the middle of that, so I can provide any debug data needed02:45
eriscoNoUse, it is complaining about my java version02:45
eriscoNoUse, or java in general02:45
lightbrightbimberi: oiswym :)02:45
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NoUseerisco well now you know what the problem is02:45
eriscoNoUse, it says it wants 1.4+, and it says i have 1.4.202:45
switchcatany suggestions for next steps to 1) get a root password (or is there a default?) and to install additional needed components (if any) from the net?02:45
zenroxMark_Echo,  knzb is in the repos02:45
mustard5gandi, I'm not sure I know whats going on even if you did give me debug info ;)02:46
Dr_Willisuser01,  you installed lilo? ubuntu defaults to useing grub.02:46
eriscoNoUse, it also says the version is suitable02:46
lightbrightbimberi:  oiswym = Oh I see what you mean :)02:46
bimberilightbright: lol, i've not seen that one (but i got it) :)02:46
Mark_Echozenrox... sorry I don't understand "repos"?02:46
user01Dr_Willis: i didnt install lilo...oh it is grub?02:46
NoUseerisco I gave up on limewire a long time ago02:46
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eriscogij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)02:46
gandimustard5: anyone who I could contact?02:46
zenrox!tell Mark_Echo about repostories02:46
eriscothis line looks a bit funky02:46
haTemmustard5: nope, i've had this isntall for a couple of months02:46
lightbrightbimberi:  I just made it up ;)02:46
haTemmustard5: it's been working fine up until today02:46
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NoUseerisco you might need to install the sun java jvm02:46
mustard5gandi, there are others in this channel who might know...keep trying02:46
Dr_Willisuser01,  :P yep.. edit the grub.conf and put in where it shows the menu and put in a delay if ya want.02:46
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Mark_Echoeh that's weird.. I only got 2 newsreader client in my repo02:46
eriscoNoUse, i have java tho....02:46
bimberilightbright: thought so :)02:47
gandianyone else who could help with Ubuntu install process?02:47
mustard5haTem, are you sure you logged in with your admin account?02:47
Mark_Echoand on the main site it clearly states "no build ready"02:47
zenroxMark_Echo,  enable  the multiverse and universe02:47
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eriscoNoUse, if i cannot get this to work i have just failed my project...02:47
drummer!info app gnome-pilot02:47
zenroxthen thare will be more02:47
haTemmustard5: pretty sure, i've only got 1 account02:47
Dr_Willisuser01,  it may be menu.lst it uses.. not sure.02:47
Mark_Echozenrox, already done02:47
mustard5haTem, ah ok02:47
synapsis_where can i find information on what the macro keys are02:47
NoUseerisco so I'm helping you with homework?02:47
haTemmustard5: dunno if this means anything, but "ps ax" shows " 6205 ?        D      0:00 sudo ls" and similar for all of the sudo processes02:47
eriscoException during runtime initialization02:47
erisco java.lang.NullPointerException02:47
erisco <<No stacktrace available>>02:47
eriscooops02:47
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eriscothat shouldn't of been multiple lines02:48
eriscosorry02:48
NoUseerisco install the sun java jre02:48
eriscoNoUse, in a way02:48
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eriscoNoUse, i dont get it, i already have java02:48
mustard5haTem, have you got a root password set up by chance?02:48
mustard5haTem, I know its disabled by default but you never know ;)02:48
haTemmustard5: nope, unless ubuntu has one set up by default02:48
haTemmustard5: lol02:48
mustard5haTem, no it wont :)02:49
NoUseerisco it obviously wants a different version02:49
NoUseerisco get the sun kre02:49
NoUsejre*02:49
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StDellisIs linux very limited on what printers work for it? I want to install a dell printer but its not listed and I cant find the driver?02:49
mustard5haTem, ok, then you might try recovery mode from you grub menu at bootup, you should be able to reach a root prompt using that and run visudo to check your sudoers file02:49
eriscoNoUse, installing another version will not conflict will it?02:49
Dr_WillisStDellis,  check the cups.org site and see what they say about the printer.02:49
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mustard5haTem, sometimes grub requires that you hit 'Esc' to see the menu02:50
Dr_WillisStDellis,  also a 'dell' printer is proberly just some other comanies printer with a dell logo on it.02:50
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JonasNZhey i need some help installing ubuntu on my g3 tower02:50
NoUseerisco you'll probably just want to replace what you have the the sun jre02:50
haTemmustard5: hmm, okay, i'll try that in a sec :)02:50
StDellisDr_willis how do I find out if its a different company? and which one for that matter02:50
eriscoNoUse, replace? how can i just replace it?02:50
xed2holy crap im leaving02:51
mustard5haTem, its a bit of strange issue, normally you would get some type of error message02:51
Dr_WillisStDellis,  google is your friend. :P02:51
user01how do i figure out of lilo or grub was installed?  i thought it said it was installing lilo by default02:51
NoUse!tell erisco about java02:51
Dr_WillisStDellis,  could check the output of 'dmesg' when you plug the printer in also.02:51
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haTemmustard5: would reinstalling sudo do anything at all?02:51
haTemdoh, i can't even do that02:51
haTemlol02:51
mustard5haTem, I doubt it02:51
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haTemcan't run synaptic/apt-get as user :P02:52
StDellisdr_willis sorry I dont understand that? I'm new to linux :S02:52
mustard5haTem, what you need to look at first is your /etc/sudoers file using the visudo command from a root prompt02:52
eriscoNoUse, I already read that... it is what I am following now02:52
NoUseerisco the Sun java section?02:52
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haTemmustard5: what should it say?02:52
StDellisdr_willis it detects the printer as Dell Photo Printer 720 but I cant install it02:52
eriscoNoUse, yes02:52
Mark_Echosorry noob here: requires that the knzbui.rc file is correctly placed in $KDEDIRS ****Where do I locate $KDEDIRS ?!??02:53
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NoUseerisco ok, so follow that and install the Sun jre02:53
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Toma-!fat02:53
ubotuToma-: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:53
Toma-!vfat02:53
ubotufrom memory, vfat is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab02:53
Dr_WillisStDellis,  check the CUPS homepage and see what they say about it. Ubuntu  uses the CUPS printing system02:53
mustard5haTem, it should either show your username or a %admin group listed along with root having all privileges02:53
eriscoI already have before, is it safe to do it again?02:53
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JonasNZcan anyone point me in the right direction as to how to get my g3 tower to boot the install cd02:53
tomajMark_Echo $KDEDIRS is a variable that should point to the directories where kde files are stored02:53
Dr_WillisJonasNZ,  normally ya hold down the "c" key.02:54
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eriscostill nothing NoUse02:54
Mark_Echotomaj, so it can be anywhere right? Is there a way for me to check.. once again im sorry.. im REALLY new02:54
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NoUseerisco you need to point your session to the Sun jre binaries02:54
synapsis_can anyone point me in the direction to understand what the shortcut keys are for ubuntu?02:54
mustard5gandi, try describing your problem again periodically ( not too often though) ;)02:54
eriscoNoUse, huh?02:54
Dr_Willistry 'echo $KDEDIRS'  and see what its set to.02:54
StDellisok just search for Dell then?02:55
NoUseerisco and I'm guessing that is what you are supposed to be learning how to do via this project02:55
tomajMark_echo no need to appologise we were all new once, the kde dirs its refering to i think is the /lib/kde3 but im not sure02:55
JonasNZDr_Willis it doesnt detect the cd02:55
eriscoNoUse, the project is nothing to do with limewire02:55
eriscoNoUse, or computers02:55
tomajMark_Echo and do what Dr_Willis suggested first02:55
NoUseerisco ?02:55
Dr_WillisJonasNZ,  ive had such hassles getting mac machines to see the cd's ive ended up going to the 'openfirmeare' and booting the cd that way.02:55
eriscoNoUse, oh forget it02:55
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StDellis!ping02:56
ubotuKeep your fingers to yourself, stdellis.02:56
tomajhow do i get x-chat to autocomplete nicknames?02:56
JonasNZDr_Willis what do i do in openfirmware to get it to boot02:56
Dr_WillisJonasNZ,  some funky odd key combo - like alt-option-o-f02:57
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naliothtomaj: tab key02:57
Dr_WillisJonasNZ,  then ya can get to some shell like interface and i forget the commands to make it boot the cd.02:57
Mark_Echotx guys :) I've tried to echo $KDEDIRS and there's no result, just a blank space02:57
tomajthanx nalioth02:57
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StDellisDr_willis I cant find anything on that Cups site about my driver? Should I guess that it doesnt work with linux?02:57
JonasNZDr_Willis yeah im in open firmware, its just getting it to boot02:57
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Dr_WillisStDellis,  'with CUPS' - Linux has nothing todo with it. :P02:57
Dr_WillisStDellis,  and its possible its a clone of some other printer that does work.. try googleing for that 'printer make and linux'02:58
StDellisDr_willis oh do I have to download CUPS?02:58
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Dr_WillisStDellis,  CUPS is the default ubuntu printing software - its allready there.02:58
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JayLv99hey - what is teh default root password for ubuntu?02:58
tomajMark_Echo: what are you trying to do exactly?02:58
JayLv99'cause I just installed it, and apparently it never asked me for a password.02:58
AgrajagJayLv99: there is no root password02:58
AgrajagUse sudo.02:58
Agrajag!rootsudo02:58
uboturootsudo is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo02:59
user01can someone help me figure out what is up with my configuration...why there is no boot menu for the other partition?02:59
enajeirakim sorry were you guys making out?02:59
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enajeirakhallo03:00
enajeirakwell this is awkword03:00
blackhathttp://pastebin.com/429776, I use XDVDShrink and I get this error when I am trying to rip a dvd to an iso.03:00
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mustard5user01, have you tried pressing 'Esc' at boot for the grub menu?03:00
JayLv99alrighty, ty Agrajag03:00
Dr_WillisStDellis,  first hit on google says --->  The Dell 720 can be used with the Lexmark Z615 printer driver03:00
haTemmustard5: it looks normal to me, it has the %admin line :-/03:00
tomajenajeirak: are you smoking crack?03:01
Dr_Willisand if its a Lexmark printer... well.. lets say ive thrown away several of those.03:01
user01mustard5: let me try...03:01
mustard5haTem, I guess you need to find out whether you are still in the %admin group03:01
mustard5haTem, either that or just change the %admin part to your username03:01
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tomajlol Dr_Willis Lexmarks are good door stoppers nothing more03:01
haTemmustard5: okay, i'll give that a shot :P03:01
enajeirakas a matter of fact no03:01
enajeirakjust bored03:01
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mustard5haTem, k good luck03:02
haTemmustard5: thank you :)03:02
Dr_Willistomaj,  i wouldent even use them for that.03:02
matthew_wHey - is there a way to go even louder than the volume can normally go in Ubuntu... ?03:02
enajeirakare youuuuuuuuuuuu03:02
synapsis_is anyone here doing audio editting?03:02
mustard5matthew_w, turn your speakers up?03:02
user01mustard: it just says lilo 22.6.1, so i think lilo was installed by default03:02
tomajDr_Willis: they might just splash ink everywhere...03:02
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matthew_wmustard5; software wise03:02
StDellisdr_willis I found that now yes but I'm trying to do the install when I go to change root to su - and put in my root pass it doesnt auth failed?03:02
Agrajagmatthew_w: apt-get install spinal-tap, all the volume controls will go to 1103:02
io_errorHm, I'm getting a 404 on breezy-backports; do I have the wrong repository or something?03:03
blackhatWhats a good program to Copy DVD's and have them work in DVD Players?03:03
mustard5matthew_w, are you just using the master volume control or double clicking and using the the more advanced controller?03:03
Agrajagio_error: I don't think breezy-backports exists yet03:03
Dr_WillisStDellis,  use 'sudo' not 'su -'    -- Its a Ubuntu "feature" for more security03:03
matthew_wmustard5; both03:03
io_errorAgrajag: hm, it says in the /topic that it exists?03:03
Dr_Willis!tell StDellis  about sudo03:03
matthew_wit's loud, I just need it even louder (surround sound here)03:03
tomajenajeirak: lol this is a support channel, idle banter is generally discouraged :) call a friend, that usually helps my boredom03:03
Agrajagoh it does?03:03
mustard5matthew_w, k, I'm at a loss then sorry03:03
Agrajagmy mistake03:03
io_errornow, where IS it?03:03
tomajmatthew_w: what sound card?03:04
AgrajagheckifIknow03:04
enajeirakyes i know, im accually waiting for someone to meet me here that was going to help me with somthing03:04
mustard5io_error, i would just disable backports03:04
matthew_wtomaj; creative PCI soundblaster03:04
io_errorthis I have in /etc/apt/sources.list: # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse03:04
user01mustard5: it goes right from the bios screen to lilo22.6.1..........03:04
io_errormustard5: I have it disabled already - that's not my question :)03:04
JonasNZDr_Willis any ideas at all?03:04
matthew_wAgrajag; what repository is that in, I can't find it03:04
tomajmatthew_w: if its live then i had problems with that too, can you hear anything from your back channels?03:04
mustard5user01, ah you use lilo..hmmm..I have never used that myself03:05
JayLv99hey - I'm working on installing JRE, and I got this error message after agreeing to the license terms and whatnot03:05
JayLv99it says "error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2)"03:05
Dr_WillisJonasNZ,  on what?03:05
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JayLv99nd then "error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm"03:05
matthew_wtomaj; yes, It's loud and clear, I just need to go even ridiculously louder03:05
Agrajagmatthew_w: that's a joke03:05
darrochfamilymy HP Deskjet 710C won't work in kububtu 5.10 I've posted the cups error log in flood can somebody help me?03:05
matthew_wAgrajag; lol.03:05
Dr_Willisdarrochfamily,  that a printer-scanner combo?03:05
Agrajagyou've never seen the movie I guess :/03:05
tomajmatthew_w: have you pulled both PCM, Master and the knob to the highest?03:05
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matthew_wAgrajag; well don't own me.03:05
StDellis!tell StDellis cups03:05
blackhathttp://pastebin.com/429776, I use XDVDShrink and I get this error when I am trying to rip a dvd to an iso.03:05
io_errorgrub is your friend03:05
user01well im editing /etc/lilo.conf and nothing is happening03:06
haTemmustard5: i replaced %admin with my username and it seems to work now :), thanks for your help03:06
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mustard5haTem, well done :)03:06
matthew_wtomaj; yes.03:06
matthew_wlo03:06
matthew_wl03:06
haTemi also set the root password just in case something like that every happens again03:06
tomajStDellis: use /msg ubotu cups to avoid spaming channel03:06
Dr_Willisuser01,  after eding the lilo.conf you need to rerun lilo to make the mbr get updated.03:06
io_erroruser01: after editing lilo.conf you need to re-run lilo, every time03:06
mustard5haTem, you must have been taken out of the %admin group somehow03:06
io_errorsudo /sbin/lilo03:06
darrochfamilyDr_Willis, no just a printer03:06
user01oh thanks!03:06
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tomajmatthew_w: go to edit > preferences in volume control03:06
Dr_Willisdarrochfamily,  check the ubuntu wiki's and the cups homepage. for details is step 1 i think.03:06
haTemmustard5: that's pretty weird, i havn't messed with the groups at all03:07
everton137Hi, I am trying to ./configure a plugin for gaim, but checking for GAIM... configure: error: Package requirements (gaim) were not met.03:07
everton137Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you03:07
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io_errorblackhat: you need to paste the contents of the mkisodebug.txt file03:07
darrochfamilyDr_Willis, ok thanks03:07
JayLv99ugh...03:07
JayLv99what's with Ubuntu and RPMs?03:07
mustard5haTem, its a mystery then... :)03:07
JayLv99how do I use alien ?03:07
everton137Can someone help me? Which value shoul I atribute to PKG_CONFIG_PATH?03:07
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tomajJayLv99: it hardly ever works03:08
haTemmustard5: lol :P03:08
io_errorJayLv99: alien file.rpm should be sufficient03:08
tomajJayLv99: at least not for me03:08
JayLv99'k03:08
synapsis_i'm haivng a hard time understanding why my usbkey isn't being recognized03:08
io_errorbut you best bet is to find a .deb :)03:08
JayLv99let's hope alien works for JRE.03:08
mustard5synapsis_, I wrestle with that issue every day :)03:08
JayLv99*starts praying*03:08
io_errorJayLv99: which JRE?03:08
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mustard5synapsis_, I have no idea why mine is not recognised either03:08
JayLv99latest edition03:08
AgrajagJayLv99: Just follow the guide on the wiki03:08
runedude5hey , has anyone here got their dell 720 printer working (aka.. lexmark z615)03:08
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runedude5?03:08
JayLv99jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.rpm03:09
tomaj!java03:09
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs03:09
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io_erroryeah, the guide on the FAQ works fine03:09
mustard5synapsis_, I keep unplugging it and pluggin it in again03:09
io_errorJayLv99: oops03:09
synapsis_mustard5: works eventually?03:09
io_errorJayLv99: wrong package :)03:09
JayLv99oops?03:09
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JayLv99oops is a bad thing03:09
JayLv99>_>03:09
JayLv99<_<03:09
io_errorhm, my USB key is recognized03:09
io_errorJayLv99: you have another large download ahead of you :)03:09
mustard5synapsis_, it gets recognised then I mount it and it belongs to root and I can only read03:09
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JayLv99oh, joy.03:09
JayLv99how long?03:09
mustard5synapsis_, it worked fine for ages, then suddenly started playing up03:09
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mustard5synapsis_, I must have changed something along the line03:10
tomajJayLv99: have you tried the wiki method?03:10
io_errorsynapsis_: does the usbkey show up in System > Administration > Disks ?03:10
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JayLv99tomaj - just about to.03:10
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everton137Hi. How do I adjust PKG_CONFIG_PATH for compile plugins for gaim?03:11
n0odl3markw:i am back03:11
everton137Which valeu should I put?03:11
JayLv99ok, it just said that the deb file is generated, now how do I install from that?03:11
Vatroduxdo you speak spanish03:11
Mark_EchoThis is what im trying to do03:11
synapsis_io_error: nope03:11
Mark_Echoafter compiling Knzb. Newer versions use the KDE XML GUI framework, which03:11
Mark_Echorequires that the knzbui.rc file is correctly placed in $KDEDIRS.  If you03:11
Mark_Echohaven't installed it properly, you will find you are very short on toolbar03:11
Mark_Echobuttons, particularly the "Start Download" button!03:11
n0odl3markw:can you help me with the xconf?03:11
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tomajJayLv99: you shouldnt need to do any of tat03:12
io_errorsynapsis_: driver problem, then03:12
synapsis_io_error: however it says its charging03:12
n0odl3can someone help me with this thread?03:12
tomajJayLv99: are you following the debian guide you found through google?03:12
n0odl3can someone help me with setting up a pointer device tablet? here is the link that has the instructions im following: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2515103:12
JayLv99tomaj - right now I'm just kinda following advice that people give03:12
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io_errorsynapsis_: does other removable media show up?03:12
tomajJayLv99: put that on pause and use the wiki guide and see if things work03:12
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Chris_Tuckerskype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2) but it is not installable03:13
tomajJayLv99: if it doesnt work out then slap me and continue what you are doing03:13
synapsis_io_error: i have no other removable media to try03:13
Vatroduxalguien habla espaol03:13
Chris_Tuckerhow do i fix this?03:13
fightingfortofuwhat would cause the partitioner to consistantly hang at 26% when creating the ext3 filesystem? faulty disc?03:13
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synapsis_io_error: actually i'll brb i wanna try somethin03:13
JayLv99tomaj - I'm looking at the wiki thing in btwn talking to people online about it03:13
StDelliscan someone help me install a driver once I have downloaded the .tar.gz file for a printer?03:13
fightingfortofuhard drive, i meant03:13
io_errorsynapsis_: plug in your key, and run  sudo modprobe usb_storage03:13
tomajJayLv99: i installed Java as per the guide and i havent had a problem ever03:13
bob2StDellis: that's unlikely to be neccessary03:14
JayLv99ok, once I hear back from this one guy if it doesn't work I'll do the guide :)03:14
bob2StDellis: you really checked and found ubuntu didn't have it?03:14
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bimberiubotu tell Chris_Tucker about skype03:14
makolYou can't load TkCximage, this is now needed to run aMSN.03:14
makolYou can compile it with the makelie inside amsn folder. ,,,,,who knows how to fix that problem???????????03:14
StDellisnot that I can find03:14
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StDelliswhere would I find it03:14
tomajJayLv99: it will probably work because ubuntu is based on debian but the easy synaptic compatible way is to follow the wiki (you decide though im just trying to make it simple for you)03:14
bob2makol: use amsn from ubuntu03:14
Mark_Echotomaj, is there a solution to my problem?03:14
bob2StDellis: in the add printer dialog?03:15
JayLv99ok, Lol :)03:15
mcrawforheya. my install used to have /dev/snd/seq which was an alsa sequencer device.03:15
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tomajMark_Echo: what was it again? you left and i forgot03:15
mcrawforthat now appears to be gone - anyone know how I can get that back?03:15
Mark_Echok, pasting again03:15
tomajoh yeah03:15
Mark_Echoafter compiling Knzb. Newer versions use the KDE XML GUI framework, which03:15
Mark_Echorequires that the knzbui.rc file is correctly placed in $KDEDIRS.  If you03:15
Mark_Echohaven't installed it properly, you will find you are very short on toolbar03:15
Mark_Echobuttons, particularly the "Start Download" button!03:15
makolbob2: amsn cvs for ubuntu????03:15
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bob2makol:moglozlrofl03:15
StDellisbob2 my printer is in there labeled Dell Photo Printer 720 but I dont have the driver for it03:15
io_errorhell, tell me about skype03:16
tomajMark_Echo: do dir /lib/kde or kde3 see which one works03:16
bob2StDellis: what do you mean by "I don't have the driver for it"03:16
bob2tomaj: it will not be /lib03:16
StDellisbob2 I've been referred to this site http://www.staerk.de/thorsten/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=43 to install but cant seem to get it to work03:16
tomajbob2 isnt that a lib file?03:16
bob2StDellis: ignore that03:16
StDellisbob2 like it says install driver then it comes up with a dialog box to search for it but I have no idea where or what I'm looking for03:16
n0odl3can someone help me with setting up a pointer device tablet? here is the link that has the instructions im following: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2515103:16
io_errorthat bot is STUPID03:16
bob2tomaj: applications libs do not go in /lib03:16
bob2io_error: no, it's not03:17
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Xcercahey03:17
tomajbob2: where does that file go then?03:17
bimberiio_error: /msg ubotu skype03:17
tomajusr lib?03:17
blackhathttp://pastebin.com/429776, I use XDVDShrink and I get this error when I am trying to rip a dvd to an iso.03:17
bob2tomaj: somewhere under /usr/share/kde*, I assume03:17
Xcercahas anybody installed a GeeForce card on their system ?03:17
bob2you don't "rip a dvd to an iso"03:17
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tomajbob2: wouldnt it be /usr/lib?03:17
synapsis_io_error: typed03:17
bob2Xcerca: if your actual question is "How do I install the nvidia binary-only drivers?", wiki.ubunut.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:17
StDellisbob2 what do you suggest I do then?03:18
tomajMark_Echo: try putting in /usr/lib/kde303:18
synapsis_io_error: now what03:18
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Xcercathanks03:18
bob2StDellis: what sort of printer is it really?03:18
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StDellisbob2 Its a Dell Photo Printer 720 but I guess its really a Lexmark03:19
balzaccan i use backports as a way to clean up broken packages?03:19
n0odl3can someone help me with editing my xorg.conf?03:19
tomajbalzac: no breezy backports03:19
tomajbalzac: i take that back03:19
io_errorI sent it a /msg and it told me to /msg it03:19
wegstarI installed a bootable base system... how do I configure the network card manually?03:19
io_errorthat's stupid :)03:19
io_errorsynapsis_: hm, key still plugged in?03:19
tomajn0odl3: what are you trying to do?03:19
synapsis_io_error: yep03:19
balzactomaj, how do i check my ubuntu version?03:19
Xcercahey bob that link is dead,   is a binary driver install what i have to do though for the driver for my video card ?03:20
n0odl3tomaj: here is the thread that has the instructions that im following03:20
tomajbalzac: backports are available, i didnt check updated topic03:20
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io_errorsynapsis_: sudo grep S: /proc/bus/usb/devices03:20
Mark_Echotomaj, I only found 1 dir, and that's /etc/kde303:20
n0odl3tomaj: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2515103:20
io_errorsynapsis_: see if it is showing there03:20
n0odl3tomaj im trying to set up a tablet03:20
Mark_Echook checking03:20
bob2n0odl3: ignore stupid forum threads03:20
bob2n0odl3: what is your goal?03:20
tomajMark_Echo: you do have kde installed right?03:21
wegstarso?03:21
bob2Xcerca: it's not "dead"03:21
bob2Xcerca: I mispelt ubuntu, I'm sure you can fix it03:21
n0odl3bob2: i am trying to set up a MousePen tablet03:21
n0odl3bob2: it isnt a wacom exactly but its a pressure sensative tablet03:21
fletch33can someone tell me if it is possible to remote desktop my xp desktop or do i need to make it linux as well03:21
Xcercathx03:21
tomajhaha bob2 i love the division between the forums the irc supporters and the developers03:21
user01io_error:  thanks that worked just had to uncomment prompt and fix the hdc path03:21
fletch33i am on my laptop sorry03:21
io_erroruser01: :)03:21
synapsis_io_error: does nothing03:21
bob2tomaj: there's little division, except between the forum people and everyone else03:21
io_errorsynapsis_: hm, then you don't seem to have any USB drivers loaded at all03:22
io_error?!?03:22
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n0odl3bob2: any ideas?03:22
tomajbob2: lol03:22
io_errorsynapsis_: you did use a capital S: right? :)03:22
synapsis_io_error: it was workin earlier03:22
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synapsis_capital S =)03:22
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JayLv99tomaj - I'm using the wiki now :)03:22
io_errorhm, your USB stuff seems to be completely gone?!   run lsmod and see if the USB drivers are loaded03:22
tomajJayLv99: glad to see you got some sense ;)03:22
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tomajn0odl3: try the threa it might work03:23
tomajn0odl3: what do you need help with?03:23
n0odl3tomaj: im not sure on how to work it... well do i just take taht code and paste it?03:23
n0odl3what do i do with that code? where do i edit it03:23
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n0odl3last time i tried to do that my xorg.conf got messed up03:23
tomajgo to terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:23
balzacwhat exactly are backports?03:23
n0odl3bob2 do you have any ideas?03:24
StDellisdo you have to install something to use rpm commands in the terminal?03:24
bimberibalzac: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports03:24
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balzacthanks bimberi03:24
bob2StDellis: bah, do not use rpm03:24
tomajn0odl3: do you want me to help you?03:24
bob2StDellis: use alien to convert it to a .deb03:24
bimberibalzac: np :)03:24
n0odl3tomaj: yess please03:24
tomajn0odl3: go to terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:25
n0odl3tomaj: i opened my xorg.conf and i backed up my old ohne03:25
StDellisbob2 I'm really really new to linux so that doesnt help me at all lol03:25
synapsis_io_error: usb_storage            64704  003:25
bob2lolomgrofl03:25
tomajok03:25
tomajnow03:25
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tomajn0odl3: if the shit goes down wrong go to recoverymode and do a cp you know how to do that right?03:25
n0odl3tomaj: yes because i just did that an hour ago03:25
EdLinStDellis, Ubuntu is a Debian derivative, you usually install stuff from the repositories using apt-get (or for friendlier versions aptitude or synaptic)03:26
tomajn0odl3: ok so do you have any idea what went wrong?03:26
mcrawforanyone? what module runs alsa midi?03:26
bob2that's hardware-specific03:26
flodinehas anyone installed arwiz font on breezy03:26
mcrawforbob2: any guesses?03:26
n0odl3tomaj: that is the thing... Im not sure what went wrong... All i did was copy and paste that code to the imput devices03:27
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n0odl3and stuff03:27
quintenhey03:27
mcrawforbob2: places to look in the dang modules tree?03:27
StDellisEdlin ok I'm getting alien from synaptic can you help me to get my printer working cause I dont know all the commands yet03:27
io_errorsynapsis_: that's ALL?03:27
quinteni'm trying to use the shared folders application03:27
tomajn0odl3: well split the process up and see where it goes wrong03:27
mcrawfori modprobed one that put a device there, but it was for oss, and was not functional03:27
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io_errorsynapsis_: what type of key is this?03:27
n0odl3tomaj: ok join #flood so i can paste to you my xorg.conf03:27
synapsis_io_error: ipod shuffle03:27
n0odl3tomaj: well the part that im thinking where i have to edit03:27
EdLinStDellis, system > administration > printing03:27
quintenany hints as to setting up users to connect via shared folders? i can't log on from a windows machine03:27
tomajn0odl3: use pastebin.com03:27
io_errorsynapsis_: see if you have any of the following modules listed in lsmod:  ehci_hcd, ohci_hcd, uhci_hcd03:28
tomajn0odl3: then give me the link03:28
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StDellisyes I have done this but my printer is not on the list of supported ones03:28
n0odl3ok03:28
Dr_Willisquinten,  the linux users need to have a samba password enabled with 'smbpasswd -a USERNAME' i belive03:28
StDellisso I have to install the drivers somehow but cant03:28
EdLinStDellis, you probably don't want to install the RPM anyway, with Universe added, Ubuntu has over 15,000 applications available.03:28
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Dr_Willisquinten,  and restart samba services afterwards also.03:28
StDellisEdlin my printer will not install just from there03:28
tomajn0odl3: can i also suggest not using linux for graphics works :) people will hate me but photoshop is 10 times better03:28
StDellisedlin says I need the ppm files or something03:28
EdLinStDellis, Ah, you need drivers that are in rpm?03:29
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StDellisyes03:29
quintenDr_Willis: thanks. that could use some cleanup to be made more obvious03:29
EdLinStDellis, check out linuxprinting.org (or something like that) on the net.03:29
tomajn0odl3: its up to personal opinion so try it but the interface isnt as nice although that will change soon from what i understand03:29
synapsis_io_error: uhci_hcd               28048  003:29
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StDellisedlin I have the rpm drivers already extracted. someone told me to use alien to convert to debian but I dont know how03:29
synapsis_io_error: i'm gunna try rebooting03:29
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n0odl3tomaj: ok... thats cool... here is the link http://pastebin.com/42984803:29
Dr_Willisquinten,  Its plainly stated in the 'using samba' book thats online. :P03:29
ubuntu-newbieHello i need some help03:30
Dr_Willisquinten,  samba is just such a BIG complex tool.. theres lots of little gotyas.03:30
EdLinStDellis, apt-get install alien; then to find out how to use it "man alien"03:30
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tomajn0odl3: what do you want me to do?03:30
io_errorsynapsis_: yeah, you have ltos of modules missing...reboot should clear it up :)03:30
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synapsis_io_error: hopefully =P03:30
synapsis_brb03:30
ubuntu-newbiecan anybody help please?03:30
n0odl3tomaj:well can you walk me through the procedure to what exactly im suppose to do?03:31
mustard5ubuntu-newbie, describe your problem03:31
tomajn0odl3: http://pastebin.com/42984903:31
ubuntu-newbiemustard5, i can't play mp3s on my ubuntu03:31
ubuntu-newbiei tried upgrading the hole thing03:31
ubuntu-newbieand it finally that 1 file has a bad header and could not be downloaded03:31
tomajn0odl3: thats what its supposed to look like based on instructions03:31
EdLinbrb03:31
Agrajagubotu: tell ubuntu-newbie about codecs03:32
mustard5ubuntu-newbie, have you followed the guide at the wiki yet?03:32
ubuntu-newbieand im getting this03:32
n0odl3alright ill try it tomaj03:32
n0odl3thanx03:32
tomajthats not all though03:32
io_errorubuntu-newbie: https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats03:32
tomajn0odl3: is that different from what you last did?03:32
ubuntu-newbieThe following packages have unmet dependencies:03:32
ubuntu-newbie  kmerlin: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.4.0) but it is not going to be installed03:32
ubuntu-newbie           Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3) but it is not installable03:32
ubuntu-newbieE: Broken packages03:32
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ubuntu-newbiecould that site help me? I just installed ubuntu yesterday its the first linux i ever use03:33
n0odl3tomaj: well i omitted the eraser part03:33
ubuntu-newbiegot tired of bill gate's bullshit03:33
tomajn0odl3: thats strange03:33
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tomajtry adding the next bit too03:33
mustard5ubuntu-newbie, the guide will set you straight03:33
ubuntu-newbieallrighty then, thanks.03:33
tomajn0odl3: according to the guide that should work03:33
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mustard5ubuntu-newbie, follow the link ubotu sent you03:33
n0odl3hmmm...03:33
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tomajn0odl3: but remember that bob2 said that the forums arent reliable so it might be that the guide is wrong03:34
tomajif it doesnt work try posting a msg on the forums for the user to reply on03:34
n0odl3yeah03:34
nannoanyone have problems with fetchyahoo freezing at "getting message id" at 99% cpu?03:34
n0odl3tomaj: i did but no good responses03:34
StDellisEdlin I get this error when trying to convert Must run as root to convert to deb format (or you may use fakeroot).03:34
StDelliscan someone help me with this error when trying to use alien to convert a rpm package to debian Must run as root to convert to deb format (or you may use fakeroot).03:34
tomajn0odl3: Also don't forget to change the mice device to mouse0 or mouse1, the wacom site says that all pointer devices go thru mice, and if you have your main pointer set to mice, instead of mouse0 for your mouse it will cause problems like not being able to click with your mouse or your tablet. Apparently this is an extra step you gotta do if your mouse is USB, and your tablet is USB. My mouse is PS2.03:35
tomajn0odl3: did you read that bit03:35
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tomajn0odl3: what happens when things go wrong?03:35
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squareyesafternoon all03:36
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n0odl3tomaj: all x goes haywire and i can no longer boot into a gui03:36
n0odl3goes strait into a shell03:36
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tomajn0odl3: thats really strange03:36
tomajn0odl3: is it just pressure sensitivity that doesnt work?03:36
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n0odl3no the stylust portion does not work at all03:37
JayLv99hey tomaj03:37
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JayLv99the wiki doesn't have a response for this03:37
tomajJayLv99: yes?03:37
squareyescannot get printer to work with breezy, worked fine with hoary, if I re-install hoary, and update from CD is this likely to solve problem?03:37
JayLv99"E: COuld not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)"03:37
JayLv99"E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"03:38
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tomajJayLv99: you must have more than one application open that wants to access apt03:38
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JayLv99ok, such as?03:38
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tomajJayLv99: eg Synaptic and the update manager03:38
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JayLv99ooh03:38
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JayLv99ok03:38
JayLv99yeah03:38
JayLv99I left that open03:38
JayLv99x_X now once I close the synaptic thing it gives me the repository message03:38
JayLv99;x03:39
tomajJayLv99: ?03:39
ubuntu-newbiewell03:39
ubuntu-newbieE: Package xmms has no installation candidate03:39
ubuntu-newbiethis is what i've been getting03:39
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tomajubuntu-newbie: have you updated all the repository links?03:39
tomajubuntu-newbie: to look for breezy files03:40
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ubuntu-newbietomaj I don't know03:40
JayLv99gah03:40
JayLv99it's still saying "E: Couldn't find package java-package"03:40
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StDelliscan someone help me with alien03:40
JayLv99which is where the wiki said to enable repositories03:40
JayLv99but I already did03:40
JayLv99x____X03:41
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JayLv99should I enable the Universe security repositories too?03:41
tomajubuntu-newbie: go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade?highlight=%28upgrade%2903:41
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ubuntu-newbieallright03:41
tomajJayLv99: enable multi and universe03:41
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tomajubuntu-newbie: go to the Through Synaptic Package Manager section03:41
jedrickanyone who plays xmame here, i have problem with the sounds03:42
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mobuswhere can I get the latest version of GLib?03:42
JayLv99the Multiverse ones aren't shown03:42
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Dr_Willisjedrick,  may be more of an alsa/oss issue then a mame issue.03:42
JayLv99what setting do I need to change to view them ?03:42
EdLinmobus, why do you need it?03:42
StDellisdr_willis Can youhelp me with an error with alien? It says this when I try to convert to deb Must run as root to convert to deb format (or you may use fakeroot).03:42
jedrickDr_Willis: then what will i do?03:42
tomaj!multiverse03:42
uboturepositories is, like, totally, How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list03:42
mobusto install everything I need to install03:42
mobusi.e. xmms-alarm03:43
tomajJayLv99: have you followed instructions there?03:43
JayLv99yeah03:43
EdLinStDellis, run "sudo" at the beginning of the command line.03:43
Dr_WillisStDellis,  no clue - never used alien.      you may need to do 'sudo alien whatever.rpm'03:43
JayLv99I'm going through teh list03:43
JayLv99to see if I forgot something03:43
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StDellisok03:43
Dr_Willisjedrick,  well is it a problem with all games or just 1 ?  mame has dozens of command line options also. and the config files have even more.03:44
tomajJayLv99: oh i forgot03:44
JayLv99I need to do this?:03:44
JayLv99deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted03:44
tomajJayLv99: there is an easier way03:44
jedrickall games03:44
JayLv99rofl...03:44
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JayLv99easier ways are good :)03:44
tomajJayLv99: open synaptic and repositories03:44
StDellisEdlin alright I created the .deb file now what do I do with it? how do I install a debian package?03:44
JayLv99yup03:44
JayLv99I'm in there already03:44
mobussomeone? where can I get the latest GLib?03:44
intelikeyxmms-alarm - xmms general plugin for using xmms as an alarm clock <--- mobus install it with apt-get03:44
EdLinStDellis, dpkg -i03:44
Dr_Willisjedrick,  whats 'wrong' with the sounds?03:44
mobusI look but I didn't see it03:44
tomajJayLv99: i got to do this with you lol cant remember off by heart one sec03:44
JayLv99Lol03:44
JayLv99alrighty03:44
mobushm lemme try again03:44
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jedrickDr_Willis: it's too low03:45
Dr_Willisjedrick,  youmean the volume or the pitch?03:45
tomajJayLv99: ok click on the universe one and then click edit (either one)03:45
StDellisedlin says I need superuser privledge?03:45
mobusyes it said could not find package xmms-alarm03:45
EdLinStDellis, sudo dpkg -i (sorry)03:45
JayLv99'k03:45
tomajJayLv99: see where it says universe, type multiverse after it separated by a space03:45
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StDellisedlin nm use sudo I guessing03:45
JayLv99'k03:45
JayLv99then just hit ok?03:46
tomajclick ok03:46
jedrickDr_Willis: i dunno but i almost can't here anything03:46
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JayLv99and do the same with the other one ?03:46
tomajJayLv99: and then do it for the other universe one as well03:46
jedrickeven if i turn the speaker high03:46
tomajJayLv99: ahead of me ;)03:46
JayLv99:D03:46
ubuntu-newbiewhere can I find Synaptic Package Manager03:46
JayLv99I'm a quick learner ;)03:46
Dr_Willisjedrick,  other progams/game got ok sound?03:46
fitaubuntu-newbie: System > Administration03:46
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jedricksame problem.. low sound03:46
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tomajJayLv99: thats good, you better start helping out here soon then hehehe03:46
Dr_Willisjedrick,  sounds like its not a mame issue then.03:47
mobusyeah xmms-alarm is not in APT get or Synaptic03:47
JayLv99rofl, if you guys teach me enough I will ;)03:47
Xcercaok, so i have the Video card driver installed,   but my resolution options are still the same03:47
intelikey!+info xmms-alarm03:47
ubotuUpdating ubuntu files... please wait.03:47
ubotuxmms-alarm: (xmms general plugin for using xmms as an alarm clock.), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.3.6 (breezy), Packaged size: 25 kB, Installed size: 124 kB03:47
jedrickwhat is it then?03:47
JayLv99rock rock on, it's working!03:47
intelikeymobus yes it is.03:47
Dr_Willisjedrick,  check the wiki's and google for yoru specific brand sound card perhaps - and find some info03:47
Xcerca1028x7?? is as high as it wil go03:47
intelikey!tell mobus about repos03:47
tomajJayLv99: soon you'll learn to learn on your own, i hardly ask for help anymore, the wiki is helpful tough!03:47
mobushmm... maybe I should update repositories...03:47
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Xcercais there a nVidia control panel for the driver ?03:48
Xcercafor the video card03:48
jedrickDr_Willis:  my sound card is fine, maybe this would do something on the configuration.. where can i find the configuration for the sound03:48
tomajXcerca: check synaptic by searching for nvidia03:48
EdLinXcerca, nvidia-settings03:48
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Dr_Willisjedrick,  if you got the sliders all the way up and no volume.. sounds to me like its not fine. :P03:48
EdLinI need to go where the king goes alone, brb03:49
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tomajEdLin: Harem?03:49
Dr_Willisjedrick,  the alsa sound system can be a little  complex.    could install some of the Other alsa-mixers and twiddle with them.03:49
mahanguI selected Sinhalese as a Writing and Translating Aid03:49
JayLv99hey tomaj - I gtg for now, do you have an AIM so I can contact you tomorrow if I need more help?03:49
mahanguhow do I work with it now?03:49
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Dr_Willisjedrick,  could be the default volume control slider is not controlling the right mixer channel.03:49
tomajJayLv99: just come on #ubuntu, i dont use aim sorry03:49
JayLv99alrighty :)03:50
jedrickDr_Willis: where will i fix it then?03:50
JayLv99talk to ya later!03:50
tomajJayLv99: i might be here tomorrow too if i get bored enough haha03:50
wegstarI installed the base system... how do I configure the network from there?03:50
JayLv99thank you for the help!03:50
JayLv99:D03:50
tomajJayLv99: no problems03:50
mahangu!languages03:50
ubotumahangu: No idea03:50
mahangu!lang03:50
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, mahangu03:50
Dr_Willisjedrick,   install some of the Other alsa-mixers and twiddle with them.03:50
cfaundoes anyone happen to know when openoffice 2.0 nonbeta will be in ubuntu? Or am I misinterpreting the version info and is it already (it says version 1.9.129)03:50
intelikey!locales03:50
wegstarthe base system seems to be missing a lot of drivers...03:50
ubotuintelikey: Are you on ritalin?03:50
wegstarshould I just do a complete reinstall?03:50
ubuntu-newbieguys nothing is working03:51
tomajcfaun: im using openoffice2, isnt in non beta already?03:51
tomajubuntu-newbie: whats the problem?03:51
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jedrickDr_Willis: how?,, im just new to linux :)03:51
cfauntomaj: it is, but it looks like the non-beta version isn't in the repository yet03:51
ubuntu-newbietomaj well um I just want to play mp3s03:51
Dr_Willisjedrick,  fire up synaptic. search for the other soundmixer tools and install them03:51
ubuntu-newbiecould you tell me how to do it :S03:51
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Agrajagubuntu-newbie: did you read the link everyone pointed you to?03:51
oofnikhey folks does anyone use adesklets here?03:51
jedrickok03:52
AgrajagIt tells you everything you need to do to get any kind of media working03:52
melvztechiegdesklets03:52
tomajubotu languages is found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&value=languages&titlesearch=Titles03:52
ubotutomaj: okay03:52
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ubuntu-newbieyea but i cant update or install anything03:52
cfaunubuntu-newbie: search for mp3 in apt03:52
ubuntu-newbieeverything has errors03:52
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tomajubuntu-newbie: did you update your repositories?03:52
oofniksupposedly adesklets is less memory intensive than gdesklets..?03:52
ubuntu-newbiewhats the command to do that?03:52
tomajcfaun: i wouldnt know in that case i thought they were the non beta versions03:53
tomajcfaun: have you updated to the breezy repositories?03:53
LjL!tell ubuntu-newbie about repos03:53
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tomajubuntu-newbie: did you do an upgrade?03:53
tomajLjL: we already tried that03:53
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intelikeyubuntu-newbie 'sudo apt-get update '03:53
StDellisedlin ok I installed the deb file but how do I install the printer now?03:53
ubuntu-newbieoh yea i updated my repositories03:53
mobusagh! I can't update my sources.list!03:53
tomajubuntu-newbie: did you do an upgrade to breezy from hoary?03:54
LjLmobus: you can't?03:54
ubuntu-newbieI dont know a friend of mine did all that03:54
LjLtomaj: what did you just say...? ;-P03:54
ubuntu-newbiehe removed some "#" from a file03:54
mahanguI selected Sinhalese as a Writing and Translating Aid03:54
mahanguhow do I work with it now?03:54
tomajmobus: if your problem is saving do sudo gedit /path/to/source.list in terminal03:54
tomajubuntu-newbie: do this for me open synaptic03:54
mr-russwhat is the setup with virtual packages that lead nowhere?03:54
tomajubuntu-newbie: done?03:55
ubuntu-newbieok done03:56
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tomajubuntu-newbie: go to settings > repositories03:56
raven<-- in desperate need of a Window manager replacemnt for metacity.   any suggestions..  Fast but very themable03:56
ubuntu-newbieok do e03:56
ubuntu-newbiedone*03:56
mobustomaj: thanks... yet I tought of that as I was hitting enter, but thanks anyway.  As they say, great minds think alike03:56
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oofnikraven did you try icewm?03:57
Dr_Willisreplaceing metacity can be such a pain.03:57
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ravenno I had thought about it.. but reading the review it sais win95 / os-2 look03:57
tomajubuntu-newbie: do the items in the list include 5.10 and breezy or are there any ones that say something else?03:57
ravendid not really want to go that route03:57
Dr_Willisi just set up a new gdm entry that ran whatever wm i wanted, and the gnome panel and desktop.03:57
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adam_hi03:57
ravenhello adam03:58
ubuntu-newbieuhm man, i dont even know what's breezy03:58
intelikeyraven fluxbox ?03:58
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ubuntu-newbieall 5.0403:58
ravenbreezy is 5.1003:58
ravenyou have hoary03:58
tomajubuntu-newbie: ok thats the problem then, have you upgraded to breezy?03:58
ubuntu-newbieHow can I do that?03:59
superbeastanyone able to get 3d acceleration for 64 bit?03:59
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tomajubuntu-newbie: are you able to call your friend and ask if he/she tried to upgrade you to breezy or not?03:59
ubuntu-newbie sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?03:59
cfauntomaj: I am in breezy and it says the newest version is 1.9.129. By contrast, debian has version 2.0.0.03:59
mobusyes, thanks guys, everything's working perfect, until I find a program that isn't in a deb and needs GLib to install.03:59
ubuntu-newbietomaj all he did was change some texts in a file and did and upgrade03:59
tomajcfaun: it must have been upgraded after the last snapshot then04:00
ubuntu-newbielike apt-get upgrade04:00
ubuntu-newbiesmth like that04:00
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superbeastcan someone help me with 3d acceleration?04:00
tomajubuntu-newbie: thats enough to do it, give him a call please so i can help you without breaking your system04:00
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ubuntu-newbieI cant now its 4 am04:00
ubuntu-newbie:s04:00
EdLinsuperbeast, what card do you have?04:00
ubuntu-newbieI don't care if something bad happens ill re-install04:00
ubuntu-newbie:P04:01
intelikeymobus me thinks ya need to read up on glib/glibc and see what the heck you are talking about.04:01
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superbeastedlin, x800xl04:01
ravenok.. installing icewm04:01
superbeastedlin, 64 bit04:01
ravenhow do I setup gnome to boot icewm as the WM04:01
EdLinsuperbeast, what is that, nvidia?04:01
superbeast,edlin ati04:01
tomajubuntu-newbie: lol ok04:01
cfauntomaj: nope; its older than the newest stable version. where should I go to report this? It has been like this for weeks04:01
ubuntu-newbietomaj ;)04:02
EdLinsuperbeast, sorry, don't know much about ATI. You should look into the fglx driver (or something like that)04:02
tomajcfaun: i have no idea, sorry try to ask bob2 if he is here04:02
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superbeast..........04:02
cfauntomaj: okay; thanks!04:02
tomaj!tell superbeast about ATI04:02
mobusok, I just package-installed 3dchess.  How do I run it?04:02
cfaun!tell me about ATI04:02
tomajsuperbeast: use the wikilink04:02
tomajlol cfaun i dont think that works04:02
superbeasttomaj thanks04:02
liberviscoanyone knows of a good GTK based FTP client, besides gftp?04:02
tomajcfaun: try /msg ubotu ati04:03
ubuntu-newbieallright tomaj, so now what am i supposed to do04:03
tomajgftp libervisco04:03
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MegiddoI can't get any email to work... I'm using webmin, I can send, but not receive, I think my problem may be do to conflicts because I've tried so many different email servers now. How can I safely and fully remove the old mail servers?04:03
tomajubuntu-newbie: one sec im trying to think of how to find out what version you are running04:03
mobussomeone? does anyone know how to run 3dchess once I've installed it?04:03
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misfit_toymobus, how did you install it?04:04
mobusapt-get04:04
intelikeylibervisco ncftp/ncftp2 ?04:04
ubuntu-newbieokay04:04
misfit_toymobus, if it isn't under games, then try typing 3dchess in a terminal04:04
liberviscotomaj, except that.. I don't really like gftp..04:04
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MegiddoI can't get any email to work... I'm using webmin, I can send, but not receive, I think my problem may be do to conflicts because I've tried so many different email servers now. How can I safely and fully remove the old mail servers?04:04
misfit_toymobus, let me know if that works04:04
intelikeylibervisco not sure about gtk based though04:04
mobusnope already tried it04:04
tomajlibervisco: if you find a better one let me know, im not terribly happy either04:04
EdLinlibervisco, ncftp and lftp are command-line, but they are very full featured.04:05
misfit_toymobus, hmmm...let me install it...hold on04:05
tomajcan someone tell me how to find the ubuntu version being run?04:05
Megiddoplease, can anyone help me?04:05
liberviscointelikey, EdLin, thanks.. I'll try them out..04:05
tomajubuntu-newbie: were you sitting around when your friend did all the work?04:05
intelikeytomaj uname -r04:05
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crimsuntomaj: lsb_release -a04:05
ubuntu-newbietomaj yeah04:05
StDelliswuts the command to see what files are in a folder in terminal?04:05
ubuntu-newbieright next to him04:05
_jasonStDellis, ls04:06
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tomajubuntu-newbie: do lsb_release -a04:06
superbeasthow do i find out my kernel version?04:06
tomajthanx crimsun and intelikey04:06
mobusmisfit_toy: I also already tried bash 3dchess04:06
StDellishow do I know what my CUPS username and password is? I think I know my pass but not my username?04:06
tomajsuperbeast: uname -r curtesy of intelikey04:06
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_jasonsuperbeast, uname -a04:06
liberviscoI know about krusader, but that is QT-based (so I need to download all the KDE stuff for it..), but besides it krusader is first class :)04:06
ubuntu-newbieLSB Version:    n/a04:06
ubuntu-newbieDistributor ID: Ubuntu04:06
ubuntu-newbieDescription:    Ubuntu (The Hoary Hedgehog Release)04:06
ubuntu-newbieRelease:        5.0404:06
ubuntu-newbieCodename:       hoary04:06
StDellisedlin how do I set my CUPS username?04:06
intelikey-bash: lsb-release: command not found04:06
misfit_toymobus, hold on04:06
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tomajubuntu-newbie: ok so you are running 5.04 then04:06
StDellis_jason do you know how you would find out your CUPS username? I just set my password04:06
ubuntu-newbieyeah04:06
crimsunintelikey: underscore, not hyphen04:06
MegiddoI can't get any email to work... I'm using webmin, I can send, but not receive, I think my problem may be do to conflicts because I've tried so many different email servers now. How can I safely and fully remove the old mail servers?04:07
_jasonsuperbeast, yeah do what tomaj said, more specific his way04:07
cozHello, Is there a genealogy program, other than Gramps which sucks, for Ubuntu?04:07
tomaj!tell ubuntu-newbie about restricted04:07
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intelikeywont matter crimson,  it's not installed here.  :)04:07
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ubuntu-newbiewhats that04:07
tomajgo to that link04:07
EdLinStDellis, I don't know CUPS all that well, I use Ubuntu's printer configuration tool - and on systems when such aids aren't available I use apsfilter with lpr (but I wouldn't recommend that for Ubuntu.)04:07
Xcercawhat do i need to do to play mp3 and avi/wmv/mpeg files ?04:07
cozXcera you need all the multimedia libs etc installed04:08
MegiddoPLEASE! I really need help here!04:08
misfit_toymobus, type sudo updatedb in a terminal, it will update your database, then try 3dchess, it doesn't work here for me either but I believe it would if I updated my database like I'm asking you to.04:08
misfit_toymobus "sudo updatedb"04:08
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ubuntu-newbiewould this website tell me how to upgrade to breezy tomaj?04:08
EdLinMegiddo, ask04:08
MegiddoI can't get any email to work... I'm using webmin, I can send, but not receive, I think my problem may be do to conflicts because I've tried so many different email servers now. How can I safely and fully remove the old mail servers?04:08
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cozXcerca did you get that?04:09
Xcercacoz when you say ALL of the multimedia lib do you mean everysingle one in synaptic ?04:09
darksoulhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=493003#post493003 would somone PLEASE look at this since no one else will04:09
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cozNo you want a walkthrough?04:09
Xcercaplz04:09
cozOk hold on I will get the urls for you04:09
tomajubuntu-newbie: you dont need to04:09
mobusmisfit_toy: nope didn't work04:09
Xcercathx04:09
n0odl3does anyone know if xmkmf comes with ubuntu?04:09
mobusupdate worked04:09
tomajubuntu-newbie: you need to install a few packages to enable mp3 playing04:09
darksoulhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=493003#post49300304:09
mobusbut 3dchess still didn't04:10
tomajn0odl3: search synaptic04:10
intelikeyMegiddo to remove packages try 'sudo apt-get remove -purge <package-name> '04:10
tomajubuntu-newbie: have you opened that page?04:10
nickrud  mobus dpkg -L | grep bin might tell you04:10
darksoulhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=493003#post49300304:10
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misfit_toymobus, "whereis 3dchess" in a term04:10
ubuntu-newbieroot@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg04:10
ubuntu-newbieReading package lists... Done04:10
ubuntu-newbieBuilding dependency tree... Done04:10
ubuntu-newbieE: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse04:10
ubuntu-newbiethats the command in the page04:10
mahangu_im having problem with language selections04:10
cozXcerca here is one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:10
mahangu_i select a language but cant use that as an input method04:10
intelikeyerr maybe two dashes --purge04:10
cozAlso04:10
cozhold on04:11
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darksoulubuntu-noobie: you need to enable the extra respitorys04:11
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nickrudmobus, duh, dpkg -L 3dchess | grep bin04:11
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Milk_has anyone here had to deal with a cannon multipass C5500 printer?04:11
darksoulhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=493003#post49300304:11
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Dr_Willisdarksoul,  i would say - yes you need to get the official ati drivers working first.04:11
Cykohi everybody04:11
mobusnope didn't work04:12
cozi can't find it right now but you need to downoad an app called automatix04:12
nickrudubuntu-newbie, you probably need to enable the multiverse repositories first04:12
cozhold on i will try to find it04:12
ubuntu-newbienickrud how can i do that?04:12
darksoulDr_Willis: thats great! mind telling me were to get it for breezy? couse for some weird reson it wouldent work with the hoary/warty one04:12
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tomajnickrud: can you continue helping i have to go04:12
Dr_Willisdarksoul,  i followed the binary driver wiki - and got them working in about 2 min time. :P04:12
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nickrudubuntu-newbie, there's a link on the restricted page that will help you with that, if you need more help, I'll be around04:12
darksoulDr_Willis: really? whats the link, couse the winki guide wouldent work for me..04:13
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darksoul!ati04:13
StDellisedlin well I tried to install the driver but when I pointed to the pdd.gz file that I installed it said the driver was already installed04:13
ubotumethinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1004:13
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Xcercai have another hard drive that i want to format to use with linux,  what kind of partition do i need to make it?04:13
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Dr_Willisdarksoul,  there ya go. :P04:13
ubuntu-newbienickrud i cant see it04:13
kinkoblastI installed the Esperanto language packages. How do I use esperanto as my language?04:13
kinkoblastXcerca: Ext304:14
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Xcerca100% sure ?04:14
nickrudubuntu-newbie, try this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:14
ubuntu-newbieokay thanks, nickrud well if i download and install the codecs provided in that site. would I be able to play mp3s?04:15
kinkoblastXcerca: I KNOW it will work. It may not be the absolute best, but it's what I used, it would work.04:15
lekvarHas anyone else in here migrated to Ubuntu from regular Debian?04:15
ubuntu-newbiedvds avi whatever all that?04:15
yahyamy terminal text is garbled, it's working but printing funny stuff, how do I fix it?04:15
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nickrudubuntu-newbie, the codecs aren't for mp3's, really, more for playing movies.04:15
nickrudubuntu-newbie, have you ever worked on the command line in a terminal?04:16
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cozXcerca no can't find it right now04:16
mahangu_the breezy javadebs give me a 40404:16
cozi can wal you through some of the multimedia installs04:16
varsendaggerhey cna someone help me configure fluxbox?04:16
ubuntu-newbienickrud a long time ago04:16
ubuntu-newbiei had an IRCd shell04:16
nickrudubuntu-newbie, then, you're good to go :)04:16
Xcercathats cool coz04:17
varsendagger-- i need to konw how to alter my menue04:17
Mabus06what do you do with .mdf files?04:17
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cozI think I can also send you a link to download my copy of automatix if I remember how later04:17
nickrudubuntu-newbie, open a terminal (applications->system tools->terminal)04:17
ubuntu-newbieokay done04:17
cozyou ready?04:17
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cozare you running breezy?04:17
ubuntu-newbiewho me?04:17
nickrudubuntu-newbie, then, type cd /etc/apt04:17
cozxcerca running breezy04:17
ubuntu-newbienickrud, done04:18
psusi10,000 micro seconds is 10 milliseconds right?04:18
StDellisdr_willis do you know anything about CUPS? I'm trying to install my printer, I've un[packed the deb files and have my ppm.gz file but when I go to install the driver it says the driver has already been installed etc. ALso I tried to use the webbrowser config tool but I dont know my username? I know my passsword cause I set it in CUPS but not my user04:18
nickrudubuntu-newbie, then, sudo cp sources.list sources.list.original  (this file tells ubuntu where to look for packages, we want to save a copy of what you already have)04:18
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terabytehello guys...04:19
ubuntu-newbieubuntu@ubuntu:/etc/apt$ sudo cp sources.list sources.list.original04:19
ubuntu-newbieubuntu@ubuntu:/etc/apt$04:19
Xcercacoz whats breezy ?04:19
lekvarI'm interested in building up a less bloated install from "server" for a wimpy machine I'm stuck on...  I like some parts of what the default desktop install gives but don't think I need them all.04:19
terabytei have a problem on installing ubuntu on my pc04:19
nickrudubuntu-newbie, ok, now, sudo gedit sources.list04:19
terabytecan yah help me??04:19
Dr_WillisStDellis,  cuop's web interface is disabled i think by default. you have to use the gnome cups tool.04:19
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lekvarvarsendagger: are you up to the same thing as I just said?04:20
medgnoare they any packages in backports yet?04:20
Dr_WillisStDellis,  if you got the driver isntalled - you may need to restart the cups service04:20
StDellisdr_willis is that under System>Admin>printers? or somewhere else04:20
terabytehey... can yah help me guys??04:20
terabyte<><>04:20
cozXcerca here is the link to download Automatix   http://rapidshare.de/files/7653166/automatix-breezy_v2.8.tar.gz.html04:20
Dr_WillisStDellis,  thats the place.04:20
StDellisdr_willis how do I do that04:20
intelikeypsusi or the time 10 1mhz cycles take ?04:20
Dr_Willis sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart04:20
nickrudStDellis, you can enable the web interface by doing sudo adduser cupsys shadow , and sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart04:20
ubuntu-newbiegedit:20153): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:04:20
ubuntu-newbieAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.04:20
ubuntu-newbienickrud, and the file is empty04:20
terabyteerr.... guys??04:20
psusi1 ms = 1000 us right?04:20
tritiumpsusi, yes04:21
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intelikeyyep04:21
terabytehelp plzzz04:21
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nickrudubuntu-newbie, are you sure typed sources.list correctly?04:21
ubuntu-newbiei pasted it from you04:21
ubuntu-newbiehold on04:21
terabytecan someone help me?? plz??04:21
ubuntu-newbielet me do the commands one more time04:21
darksoul!apt04:22
ubotuI guess apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto04:22
ubuntu-newbieroot@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # sudo cp sources.list sources.list.original04:22
ubuntu-newbiecp: cannot stat `sources.list': No such file or directory04:22
ubuntu-newbieroot@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu #04:22
cozWhats up terabyte04:22
darksoul!atp04:22
ubotuI don't know, darksoul04:22
ubuntu-newbiethat's the first error i got04:22
StDellisnickrud I did that but it still asks me for a username and pass and it says I'm wrong everything I try04:22
intelikeyterabyte describe the install problem04:22
darksoul!ati04:22
ubotuI heard ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1004:22
psusitime to go find out if that fixed it... brb04:22
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Nihil85nickrud, i have the same cups proble. it says that i'm not allowed to do administrative tasks.04:22
terabyteuhm.. my pc crashes when i try to configure ze time zone04:22
terabytein the installation04:22
nickrudubuntu-newbie, StDellis if you are part of the lpadmin group, your username and normal password should work04:22
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ubuntu-newbiewhat?04:23
terabyte??04:23
Nihil85nickrud, how can i be part of the lpadmin group?04:23
jah_raztahwhat is the repository for breezy backports, like deb http://archine.ubuntu.com /breezy blah blah04:23
StDellisnickrud ahhh yes thank you04:23
terabytehello??04:23
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shadeofgreyokay guys04:23
terabytecn someone help me??04:23
nickrudubuntu-newbie, first, type exit in the terminal, you don't want to be root04:23
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terabyte<><><><><><><><>04:24
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ubuntu-newbieok i logged out, now what04:24
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nickrudNihil85, type groups in a terminal, it should tell you what groups you are in04:24
tritiumterabyte, please don't flood the channel with junk04:24
terabyteyep...04:24
terabyteim trying to attrct attention coz i hav a prob??04:24
nickrudubuntu-newbie, are you working in a terminal on your desktop?04:24
tritiumterabyte, well, don't04:24
ubuntu-newbieyup04:24
terabyteOK04:24
Nihil85nihil@Olidata:~$ groups04:25
Nihil85nihil adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin04:25
terabytethen, cud some1 help me??04:25
Nihil85nickrud, but i still can't enter the administrative task04:25
nickrudubuntu-newbie, cd /etc/apt/04:25
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BugZapperi have hade the same probs with cups04:26
nickrudNihil85, did you do sudo adduser cupsys shadow , then sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart ?04:26
ubuntu-newbienickrud allright im in the file04:26
ubuntu-newbiewhat to edit04:26
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Nihil85nickrud, no04:26
Nihil85i will do04:26
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nickrudubuntu-newbie, look for every line that has universe in it, and add multiverse to the end04:26
Razor-Xterabyte: wait until someone can help you, if you wait more than 10 minutes, repost the question04:26
Razor-Xbut that's all04:26
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Razor-Xhold on, I need to flush my logs04:27
ubuntu-newbiedeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe04:27
ubuntu-newbiedeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe04:27
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ubuntu-newbiewhat do i change here for example?04:27
Nihil85nickrud, the problem remains the same04:27
terabyteguys... plz, plz.... Help.... me....04:27
intelikeyterabyte i failed to find anything on that in the wiki's and have never experanced it, so you may need to file a bug04:27
nickrudubuntu-newbie,  ..... universe multiverse04:27
tritiumterabyte, please wait a while, and ask again later04:27
Nihil85Unauthorized04:27
terabyteok...04:27
Nihil85Administrative commands are disabled in the web interface for security reasons. Please use the GNOME CUPS manager (System > Administration > Printing).04:27
nickrudNihil85, do groups in a terminal, see if you're in the lpadmin group04:28
ubuntu-newbienickrud, ok done04:28
terabytebtw... the md5sum is correct...04:28
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Nihil85nickrud, i've done it a moment ago and i posted here the result: i'm in the lpadmin group04:28
nickrudubuntu-newbie, now, save the file, and in the terminal, sudo apt-get update04:28
Nihil85nihil adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin04:28
XRangewhich program that calls for password in "System, Admin, Networking"  password for dialog04:28
nickrudNihil85, sorry, thought that was the other guy. A sec, please04:28
ubuntu-newbiethe apt- command is amazing04:29
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ubuntu-newbieok updating04:29
ubuntu-newbiedone04:29
bimberiXRange: gksudo04:29
nickrudubuntu-newbie, after the update, you should be able to get the multiverse plugins04:29
ubuntu-newbieFetched 157kB in 20s (7782B/s)04:29
ubuntu-newbieReading package lists... Done04:29
ubuntu-newbieubuntu@ubuntu:/etc/apt$04:29
intelikeyterabyte some bios's have anti-virus settings  you might check yours and if so disable it until after the install ???04:29
pavelichgey all04:29
pavelichhey04:29
war-totemcan someone tell me how to get a program like guatu to print out a log?  it crashes as soon as i load it up and would like to find out why04:29
pavelichit was my second day working at radio shack and i think i totally saw the kid i close with steal04:30
intelikeyterabyte that 'MIGHT' help....   idk04:30
Nihil85nickrud, wait, wait! changing the chmod of the cupsys.conf to my group (nihil) i solve the problem!!!04:30
pavelichi have to tell right?04:30
nickrudNihil85, try groups cupsys, make sure that it's part of the shadow group04:30
pavelichmanager?04:30
nickrudNihil85, not a good solution04:30
pavelichso i dont get blamed?04:30
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pavelichahah anyone know what i should do?04:30
war-totemanyone?04:31
Nihil85nickrud, yes, it's a part of it04:31
ubuntu-newbienickrud, how can i fix this04:31
ubuntu-newbieThe following packages have unmet dependencies:04:31
ubuntu-newbie  kopete: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.4.0) but it is not going to be installed04:31
ubuntu-newbie          Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3) but it is not installable04:31
ubuntu-newbieE: Broken packages04:31
ubuntu-newbieand alot of other files are outdated04:31
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ubuntu-newbiei think outdated because of the >=04:31
XRangebimberi: then thats app that been hanging on dapper04:31
ubuntu-newbiebigger or equal to04:31
jah_raztahis there anything new in the backports04:32
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ubuntu-newbieand what's up with the, it is not going to be installed04:32
nickrudubuntu-newbie, I don't have hoary, so I can't check those dependencies. But, I'd guess that you have some backports repositories enabled04:32
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XRangehave use "ctrl, alt, backspace" to get controll again04:32
ubuntu-newbieum04:33
ubuntu-newbiecan you tell me how to get breezy04:33
ubuntu-newbie?04:33
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ubuntu-newbieits the new version of ubuntu right?04:33
ubuntu-newbieits like an upgrade for hoary i guess no?04:33
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nickrudubuntu-newbie, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list , and change all the hoary to breezy04:33
lekvarthen sudo apt-get update04:34
lekvarthen sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (I think)04:34
nickrud!tell ubuntu-newbie about breezyupgrade04:34
ubuntu-newbiein the universe line?04:34
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medgnolekvar, that's right04:34
MegiddoI still can't get my mail to work, I can send but not receive, I'm using postfix w/webmin04:34
nickrudubuntu-newbie, did you get that message about upgrading?04:34
lekvarI know all this in Debian but I'm not used to Ubuntu enough to trust myself to be correct.04:34
MegiddoI'm not getting any errors sending email to my server...04:34
nickrudlekvar, all the skills transfer04:35
Madpilotubuntu-newbie: you need to change all the repos to Breezy, not just universe04:35
synapsis_i find the icon's too big in ubuntu, is there a way to make their a smaller set?04:35
ubuntu-newbieyea04:35
lekvarnickrud: do you know of info on how ubuntu is put together differently?04:35
Chris_Tuckercan anyone help me set up a command to run at a specific time?04:35
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lekvarI just tried it out on a lark and I've started to get sucked in.  This is the first time I've been able to tolerate a gnome desktop.04:36
MegiddoI still can't get my mail to work, I can send but not receive, I'm using postfix w/webmin. I'm not getting any errors trying to send email from off-site04:36
inva|idChris_Tucker: man cron04:36
medgnosynapsis_, you can change the default sizes in the file management preferences. If you want icons that are clear at those smaller sizes, gperfection2 is a good choice04:36
intelikeyChris_Tucker at or chron04:36
ubuntu-newbieallright done04:36
ubuntu-newbieand updating04:36
ubuntu-newbiewill it take alot of time?04:36
mr-russis there a iptables init script?04:36
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bimberiXRange: that's unusual, does "gksudo ls" work from a terminal?04:36
Madpilotubuntu-newbie: it's probably going to download several hundred Mb of stuff...04:36
MegiddoI still can't get my mail to work, I can send but not receive, I'm using postfix w/webmin. I'm not getting any errors trying to send email from off-site04:37
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nickrudlekvar, not really. It's architecture is essentially debian in my experience; it's just the surface details that are different. Sort of like not updating unstable for a month or two, and adjusting. About that much work :)04:37
ubuntu-newbieand after that04:37
ubuntu-newbieeverything should work?04:37
ubuntu-newbielike this04:37
synapsis_medgno: thanks so much04:37
ubuntu-newbiewould it be fixed?04:37
intelikeymr-russ web search for 'quicktables'  it will help you set up one.04:37
ubuntu-newbieepends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.4.0) but it is not going to be installed04:37
ubuntu-newbie          Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3) but it is not installable04:37
ubuntu-newbieE: Broken packages04:37
Chris_Tuckerthought cron was only in kde04:37
inva|idChris_Tucker: cron is a common unix tool04:37
Madpilotubuntu-newbie: it should be, yeah04:37
XRangebimberi: i sudo from terminal and did ifup eth2 and all was fine like that04:38
ubuntu-newbieokay cool04:38
Chris_Tuckerw/e i have never been able to get it working04:38
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bimberiXRange: yeah, but what about gksudo?04:38
Madpilotubuntu-newbie: in fact, that package - libqt3c102-mt - I know is in Breezy...04:38
mr-russintelikey: I don't want a ruleset, I want an init script that starts and stops my script.04:38
lekvarnickrud: I'm trying to ascertain either what to strip out from a full install, or what to add IN from a server install, to get it speedier on a 433 celeron...  maybe dump nautilus, i don't care about that much04:38
XRangelet me try04:38
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lekvarnickrud: though as my friends say "drink the gnome koolaid!"04:38
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nickrudlekvar, use xubuntu. I had a celeron 466, and gnome has just simply gotten to big for that size of machine04:39
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synapsis_medgno: gperfection2 is something i can apt-get ?04:39
lekvarwhat's xubuntu?04:39
nickrudlekvar, xfce04:39
medgnosynapsis_, you should be able to. it's icon-theme-gperfection2, I think.04:39
tritium!xubuntu04:39
ubotuI guess xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu04:39
XRangecisco@sunshine:~$ gksudo network-admin04:39
XRange** (gksudo:11179): WARNING **: Lock taken by pid: 8935. Exiting.04:39
ubuntu-newbieMadpilot allright i hope it works04:40
lekvaroh that.  i've been happy with pwm, pekwm, fluxbox...04:40
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lekvaractually for a mini window manager, jwm is actually quite hospitable too04:40
bimberiXRange: aha, a rogue process04:40
Dr_Willis"Matchbox" is fun to mess with for  tiny window manager.04:40
Vinicius_Ubuntuhi... I need help to install my Creative Sound Blaster AWE 32 ISA Card... Anyone help me?04:40
intelikeymr-russ write one.      if you use 'sh ~/myscript-for-iptables.sh '   then put that line in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh04:40
ecobuntugreetings ubunters!04:40
ubuntu-newbieI need a cigarette, i'll brb people04:40
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ubuntu-newbieLinux rules.04:40
ecobuntuis anyone running dapper?04:41
synapsis_medgno: how can i verify that04:41
Xyc0w00t04:41
nickrudwell, I've been a gnome guy since 1.0.56. I've tried some others, but it sucks me back in.04:41
darksoulwhy is the doom 3 demo so freekin laggy..04:41
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XRangethat was from where i first booted and try run  gksudo network-admin04:41
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Razor-Xdarksoul: because it's Doom 3 :P04:41
ubuntu-newbieum04:41
ecobuntu!drake04:41
ubotu[drake]  a dragon04:41
DShepherdhey04:41
ecobuntuit's a lie!04:41
lekvarperhaps It might make sense to install xubuntu as an easier position from which to migrate to one of the other non-gnomecentric window managers04:41
darksoulor it could be couse i have 384mb ram04:41
medgnosynapsis_, the package name is gnome-icon-theme-gperfection2. I checked by searching in synaptic04:41
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darksoulwhen are they going to come out with a better desktop04:42
bimberinickrud: how much RAM with the Celeron 466?04:42
nickrudlekvar, they all coexist. I run a pretty stock ubuntu for various reasons; you can customize it as much as any other debian box04:42
lekvardarksoul: i've got that too so the default gnome desktop is clunky but basicly usable.  i just like a sharply responsive system04:42
darksouli mean gnomes much more better then kde..but i want some eyecandy to lol04:42
nickrudbimberi, it maxed out at 256M.04:42
ubuntu-newbieMadpilot04:42
ubuntu-newbieand nickrud04:42
ubuntu-newbieit said done04:43
ubuntu-newbiebut its still hoary04:43
ubuntu-newbieLSB Version:    n/a04:43
ubuntu-newbieDistributor ID: Ubuntu04:43
ubuntu-newbieDescription:    Ubuntu (The Hoary Hedgehog Release)04:43
ubuntu-newbieRelease:        5.0404:43
pavelichhe goes to me, we had a power outage a few weeks ago and had to open up 2 maglights, so i will change the inventory on the pos to store usage, and then he is walking around with his jacket half on and goes into the back room right before he sets the alarm04:43
pavelich.like dude if you had a power outage you would open the cheap led flash lights, not the mag lights04:43
pavelich right?04:43
pavelichespecially two of them cuz mag lights are like 50 bucks or so04:43
ubuntu-newbieCodename:       hoary04:43
XRangebimberi: i just got done doing a update and upgrade I believe i'll reboot and see if that little problem with gksudo "command" is fixed04:43
lekvar"englightenmt" used to be the thing for uber eyecandy on X04:43
thrice`ubuntu-newbie: stop04:43
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nickrudubuntu-newbie, upgrading does not take that little time04:43
pavelichahah anyway04:43
bimberinickrud: ah, i'm able to use 384M (I have a Celeron 466 too) and it is "bearable" but not swift :)04:43
bimberiXRange: k, good luck :)04:43
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ubuntu-newbienickrud well its done :s04:43
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nickrudbimberi, I was about to ask lekvar if he had a gig or so, maybe then04:44
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darksoulwell i would use my good computer with a 3.0 amd prosseser...its supposed to be 64bit..but it doesnt have the extentions..with 1024mb ram..but the damn guis wont complie right..hmm maby ill try breezy and see if that works04:44
nickrudubuntu-newbie, did you do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade after sudo apt-get update after changing all the hoary to breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list?04:44
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_smd_I am going to stop touching my computer as i keep on breaking it04:45
lekvar_smd_: that's how you learn :)04:45
ubuntu-newbielol no04:46
bimberi_smd_: betcha can't, you're addicted to installing stuff :)04:46
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nickrudubuntu-newbie, so, do that :)04:46
darksoul_smb_: never give up, my best advice is to burn a new cd with ubuntu breezy...its much better then dist-updates, couse i had 2 reinstalls just dist..with cd it works fine04:46
ubuntu-newbieallright04:46
nickrudubuntu-newbie, time for my cig break ;)04:46
_smd_No, i went to go make my res smaller, and now i have  800-600, but now i cannot make it to 1280*102404:46
ubuntu-newbieyea im out too for that cig04:46
ubuntu-newbie;)04:46
ubuntu-newbiebrb04:46
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intelikey!cig04:47
ubotuintelikey: I don't know04:47
darksoul_smb_: has nothing to do with control atm..you sould go look in your 3d config file and see if the support is on it04:47
darksoul_smb_: is your 3d card ati?04:47
bimberi!cigarette04:47
ubotuIt's bad to smoke, but bimberi needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)04:47
_smd_darksoul: this guy I know said he was going to come re-install it sometime soon..04:47
bimberiewww, no thanks :P04:47
darksoul_smb: whatever...but do you have a ati 3d card?04:48
_smd_ darksoul: I do not know what that is04:48
darksoul_smb_: ............ you dont know what a 3d card is...or ati?04:48
_smd_ darksoul: not a clue, sorry04:48
BROKEN_LADDERcan we get a petition together to whack the crack head webmasters in the head who made bananarepublic.com ?04:49
BROKEN_LADDERhttp://bananarepublic.com/  <--04:49
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varsendaggeranyn fluxboxers?04:50
darksoul_smb: then maby linux is not for you, try windows, but seriously, if you want linux you need to learn all of that..since your basicly going to run into problems with all of this...like your res now, and you have to handcode it mostly...now on windows its easy...but you wont learn shit about your computer on windows...and only get tons of spyware/hacks/tons of shit04:50
darksoulwow...to long of a post sorry04:50
montemayordoes anybody knows how to change folder permissions?04:50
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nickrudbimberi :)04:51
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Grughey guys04:51
Grugjust want to say hi :)04:51
bimberinickrud: :)04:51
intelikeymontemayor 'sudo chmod ### folder '04:52
Nihilnickrud, now the HPLIP manager tell me that i have to refresh devices before tha printer appears on the HP devices manager. i hitted F6, but nothing happnes04:52
Astxistlo Grug04:52
darksoul_smb_: but if you want to play games on linux or anything like that you _have_ to know what a 3d card is and what the name is..you might want to look into that or go buy one lol04:52
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intelikeymontemayor 'man chmod ' for more info.04:52
darksoulwell im off see you guys/woman later!04:52
nickrudNihil, which printer?04:52
lekvar*decides to give xubuntu a shot... nothing much to lose*04:52
_smd_ darksoul: me play games... what a waste of time.04:52
Astxistlaters darksoul04:52
Grugdubuntu?04:52
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Grugerr04:52
Grugxubuntu?04:53
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varsendaggerwhat would dubuntu be?04:53
Dr_WillisXFCE-Ubuntu04:53
Dr_Willis:P04:53
nickrud!xubuntu04:53
ubotuI heard xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu04:53
Nihili printed successfully a test page with CUPS, but i still can't load the HPlip manager for my PSC1510 all in one04:53
ttrocalHello, is it possible to add the BadRAM patch to my Ubuntu machine without recompiling a custom kernel?  Though an apt-get, perhaps?04:53
Grugahh04:53
crimsunttrocal: no.04:53
varsendaggerxubuntu is pretty nice04:53
Grugis xfce nicer than gnome?04:53
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nickrudNihil, ahah! I just bought a 1510, but haven't tried the hplip manager. what's the command?04:53
NihilHPlip toolbox told me that i have to refresh... but i don't know how... it told me to hit F6, i've done it but nothing happens04:53
intelikeyfubuntu ?04:53
lekvarI want wmxuntu... wmx is sweet04:54
Nihilwhat's the command for what?04:54
ttrocalcrimsun: Damn.  So waht's the best way to go about that?  I've never had to compile a kernel before.  Any tools or how-tos you would reccomend?04:54
Nihilhplip is the driver instead of hpjips to use in an unique software both scanner and printer like windows04:54
nickrudNihil, to get to the manager, I've got the printer working and all, just didn't know there was some kind of manager for the hplip stuff04:55
crimsunttrocal: the documentation for make-kpkg, which is in the 'kernel-package' package04:55
lekvarvarsendagger: if you like experimenting with window managers try "wmii"... that's a real weird one :)04:55
Taliskererr... how do I get my system to run a certain bash script when I log in?04:55
ttrocalcrimsun: Alright, I'll look into that.  Thank you.04:55
varsendaggerwhat's it like?04:55
=== nickrud just used the web interface, and voila, it worked
Vinicius_UbuntuBreezy not suport ISA cards?04:56
=== intelikey wants a 2.4 kernel .
Vinicius_Ubuntuvinicius@ubuntu:~$ dmesg | grep Creative04:56
Vinicius_Ubuntu[ 3888.541521]  sb: PnP: Found Card Named = "Creative SB32 PnP", Card PnP id = CTL0044, Device PnP id = CTL003104:56
intelikeyany chance of loading a 2.4 kernel into ub ?04:56
lekvarvarsendagger: it's from the anti-gnome auto-tiling style camp; is keyboard-centric, has titlebar tab functionality all over the place, etc04:56
XenguyTalisker: that can be configured in Gnome via menus04:56
nickrudTalisker, if you use gnome, you can call it by putting it in ~/.gnomerc04:56
Nihilnickrud, what can i do?04:56
crimsunintelikey: if you do it on your own, you'll need to add a bunch of 2.4-specific tools04:57
lekvarvarsendagger: it's got a little command minibuffer at the bottom similar to emacs, vi, etc04:57
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Taliskerand is there a way to do so NOT using gnome?04:57
lekvarbiab04:57
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nickrudNihil, a sec, I got someone in the office, brb04:57
intelikeycrimsun any idea why ub doesn't offer any 2.4 kernels ?04:57
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varsendaggerTalisker, do you still want gnome?04:58
crimsunintelikey: because it's not practical to support 2.4 for our infrastructure.04:58
intelikeydid ub just start up about the time 2.6 came out ?04:58
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TaliskerI do not use gnome04:59
jah_raztahi keep getting an error04:59
XenguyTalisker: what do you use, kde?04:59
Taliskernope04:59
Taliskerion04:59
jah_raztahwith gdm when i try to login into xfce with gdm04:59
TaliskerI do not have a desktop04:59
_smd_got my res fixed04:59
Taliskeronly a wm05:00
jah_raztahit says xfce cannot acces soemthing05:00
varsendaggerTalisker, what kind of script?05:00
XenguyTalisker: I'm using xfce4 ATM, and it has it's own mechanism (Autostart); perhaps ion has something similar?05:00
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Taliskera simple bash script that defines some stuff, and starts my applications with certain flags and kludges05:00
varsendaggerTalisker, nevermind i don't know that i'm talking aobut05:00
TaliskerXenguy, the whole philosophy behind ion is that it's not a desktop enviorment, thus it has no function that's supposed to do stuff that's not a window menager's job05:01
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Taliskerthere should be an init script per user05:01
XenguyTalisker: maybe you can call it through .xsession ?  I'm really not sure if not05:01
Xenguyer, ~/.xsession05:01
Talisker.xsession, is it located at ~/.xsession?05:02
intelikeyTalisker it will be 'ion' specific, the docs for ion should help you.05:02
Taliskerno, it's not supposed to be ion specific05:02
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XenguyTalisker: ^^05:02
calamarihi05:02
Taliskerit's supposed to be run as I login05:02
Taliskerregardless of the WM I'm using05:02
XenguyTalisker: OK, try ~/.xsession then (my best guess)05:02
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intelikeythen look into $HOME/.Xsession05:03
Taliskerk05:03
intelikeyor $HOME/.wmrc05:03
Taliskerwell, that file exist05:03
Xenguyintelikey: what is the difference (yep, saw the different case :-) ?05:03
Dr_Willisor make a custom gdm entry that starts  your own script05:03
Taliskerand it has a single line, that's supposed to set my xkb map05:03
ubuntu-newbieallright05:04
nickrudNihil, you still here?05:04
Taliskerbut alas, it does'nt, I need to do that manually everytime I log in05:04
Nihilyes nickrud05:04
ubuntu-newbienickrud05:04
ubuntu-newbieits done05:04
Nihilnickrud, can we talk in private?05:04
ubuntu-newbiethe dist-update05:04
ubuntu-newbieupgrade sorry05:04
intelikeyXenguy xfree and xorg i think.05:04
Xenguyintelikey: ahh05:04
nickrudNihil, no, I'm also helping ubuntu-newbie at the moment :)05:04
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Talisker~/.wmrc does'nt even exist05:04
Nihilok nickrud05:04
ubuntu-newbiestill, nothing works and its still hoary05:04
nickrudNihil, try sudo /etc/init.d/hplip restart, and check again05:05
intelikeyTalisker check for a man page on it anyway05:05
Taliskeron what, xsession?05:05
nickrudubuntu-newbie, go to paste.ubuntu.nl, and paste your sources.list there, and give me the link05:05
intelikey.wmrc05:05
ubuntu-newbieokkai05:06
Nihilnihil@Olidata:~$ /etc/init.d/hplip restart05:06
NihilStopping hpiod: /etc/init.d/hplip: line 60: kill: (8687) - Operation not permitted05:06
Nihilrm: remove write-protected regular file `/var/run/hpiod.pid'?05:06
ubuntu-newbienickrud the site couldnt be found05:06
nickrudNihil, sorry, you need to do sudo /etc/init.d/hplip restart05:06
Nihilnickrud, i've done this05:06
nickrudUse http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl ubuntu-newbie05:06
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Nihilah... i've forgotten sudo05:07
nickrudNihil, does your printer print from applications? if so, maybe the problem is the hp manager. by the way, what's the command for that?05:07
lekvarxubuntu looks decent05:08
intelikeyi should either install the man-db or make up my mind if i'm gonna keep this ubuntu installed, one or the other.05:08
Nihilmy printer prints from all the programs and scan from all the programs normally05:08
nickrudNihil, then, what's the problem ;)05:08
timczI have had an issue today trying to get on the ubuntu forums.  Each time I try to connect it times out.  The same is happening for google.  This happens with firefox and opera, on ubuntu and suse.  It looks like I can get to any other site I have bookmarked, including the ubuntu home page, any of the other languaged forums.  Any ideas on why this would be happening?05:08
ubuntu-newbienickrud http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d455105:08
ubuntu-newbieuh sorry go here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/455105:08
intelikeyi'd keep it.  but i can't seem to find a single redeeming quality about it.05:08
Nihilnickrude, i cannot tell the printer how much ink use, the quality of the print, the quality of the scan, ecc ecc ecc... these are all things that the HP manager does05:09
pavelichkeep ubuntu05:10
nickrudubuntu-newbie, I meant, paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list05:10
Nihilnickrude, i've discovered the problem... i was using only a USB printer, not a HP-USB printer that was at the end of the list of 10000 possibilities05:10
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intelikeypavelich why ?05:10
ubuntu-newbienickrud oh okay05:10
nickrudNihil, oookkk05:10
Nihilthansk nickrud05:10
nickrudNihil, well, not that I did much05:10
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Xcercahey,   i could either install Mandrake or Fedora ?  has anybody ever tried either of those ?05:11
ubuntu-newbieallright nickrud, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/455205:11
Xcercai've narrowed it down to those....05:11
intelikeyXcerca yes05:11
Dr_WillisXcerca,  Yes you could.. and Yes  lots of people have used them..05:11
Dr_Willis:P05:11
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pavelichintelikey: well i have only completly moved over to linux for two days, but the main reason i am staying is i use half the ram doing everything i need to do, 136, compared to 36105:11
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Xcercado either provide 64 bit support ?05:11
pavelichin xp05:12
Xyc0xp?05:12
Dr_Willisabout all the main stream disrto maker have 64bit support these days05:12
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Xyc0experience?05:12
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pavelichintelikey: but i am a noob  and its all dependent on what you need for yourself obviously05:12
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intelikeypavelich :)   my removing ubuntu will not mean installing M$-windows  lol05:12
Xcercawhat is a good page to compare the distros side by side ?05:12
Grugpretending you don't know about XP won't make it go away :)05:12
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pavelichintelikey: well thats good news05:13
pavelichlol05:13
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Nihil85nickrud, if you didn't so much, i have another insoluted problem for you!!!!05:13
nickrudubuntu-newbie, on line 1, add a # to the beginning of the line, and on lines 5 & 6, remove the # and change hoary to breezy, and update and dist-upgrade again05:13
pavelichreally the only other linux disto i have used was mandrake, and i prefer this tenfold05:13
nickrudNihil85, I love doing nothing :)05:14
DShepherdpavelich: why?05:14
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pavelichbut that was like 2 years ago05:14
pavelichi think, lol05:14
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Xyc0I found an old creative IR remote, what project can help me use that to change songs in BMP or VLC etc05:14
Nihil85nickrud, i want to save you from yourself asking you another question: How can i make a wireless lan between two ubuntu pc?05:14
intelikeypavelich i'm really seriously considering paying the $35 to get the 9 debian cd's mailed to me.  because dialup is no way to install things....05:14
ubuntu-newbiedo i do an apt-get update before?05:15
Xcercai just can't get my video resolution set up or my sound card,   so i was going to try another distro cuz i don't have the time to sit down and figure everything out05:15
nickrudNihil85, ah, networking: I touch that not, no offence.05:15
Nihil85nickrud, i have followed many how-to, guides, people, ecc ecc ecc05:15
pavelichoooo dialup05:15
Nihil85nickrud, don't worry05:15
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Xcercaanybody in here tried Fedora Core ?05:15
crimsunXyc0: vlc has support for lirc, see the docs on videolan.org/vlc/05:15
nickrudNihil85, I haven't done near enough of that to be able to even help myself :)05:15
ubuntu-newbienickrud so05:16
ubuntu-newbie?05:16
Xyc0God, you can take my health, you can take my childeren, but please dont take my boradband05:16
DokJonesanyone had luck getting the broadcom 4306 wireless nic to work in ubuntu 5.10?05:16
ubuntu-newbiedo i do an apt-get update before the dist-upgrade ?05:16
intelikeyXcerca fc4 no but eariler rh releases yes.05:16
nickrudubuntu-newbie, yes05:16
DokJonestrying to get ndiswrapper to install but having problems05:16
Nihil85Hi everyone!! can anyone give a hand to a poor ubuntu user that have followed any possible howto and guide to make a wireless lan? Pleeeaaseeeee05:16
nickrudubuntu-newbie, paste your new one first, though.05:16
nickrudI'll take a quick look at it05:17
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Xcercaanybody in here have a sound blaster card ?05:17
easelcan anyone help me get my samba talking to windows properly05:17
Xcercasamba?   windows?    wrong chat room buddy05:17
easelXcerca, its the ubuntu end that aint working05:18
ubuntu-newbienickrud ?05:18
ubuntu-newbieWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!05:18
ubuntu-newbie  libssl0.9.7 librpm4 rpm wget sudo fetchmail libgda2-common libgda2-3 libcurl305:18
ubuntu-newbieInstall these packages without verification [y/N] ?05:18
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Xcercagottcha05:18
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Monkeybhello05:18
nickrudubuntu-newbie, like I said, post your new sources.ist first05:18
nickrudubuntu-newbie, like I said, post your new sources.list first05:18
Xyc0ubuntu-newbie: please use pastebin05:18
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ubuntu-newbieok ok sorry05:18
Monkeybwhy cant i run make?05:18
ubuntu-newbienickrud my new sources.list is like you said05:18
intelikeyMonkeyb 'sudo apt-get install build-essential '05:19
pavelichdebian reminds me of osx05:19
bimberiMonkeyb: install build-essential (includes make)05:19
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Monkeybi cant use apt get because i dont have internet05:19
nickrudwell, authentication is important, I'd like to check your list over05:19
Xcercahas anybody installed a Sound Blaster card successfully ?05:19
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Monkeybwell i need to use make to try to get my wireless to work05:19
ubuntu-newbieok05:19
intelikeyMonkeyb cause you don't have a compiler yet05:19
bimberiMonkeyb: the dependencies should be on the CD05:19
Monkeybso type install build-essential ? as root05:20
Monkeyb?05:20
ubuntu-newbienickrud, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/455305:20
kbrosnanI needt to change my swap drive, I had a drive fail.05:20
kbrosnanwhat config files have that info?05:20
bimberiMonkeyb: yep (sudo takes care of the root part)05:20
Nihil85Hi everyone!! can anyone give a hand to a poor ubuntu user that have followed any possible howto and guide to make a wireless lan? Pleeeaaseeeee05:20
nickrudcrimsun, off hand, do you know of a situation where ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1 might be needed to get flash player working? I can't seem to find any references to it on the net05:20
intelikeyMonkeyb 'sudo apt-get install build-essential '   or   'apt-get install build-essential ' as root05:20
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Monkeyband it will work without an internet connection?05:21
crimsunnickrud: you don't need that if you aoss firefox05:21
bimberikbrooks: /etc/fstab (you will need to run mkswap on the device too)05:21
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intelikeytry it Monkeyb05:21
Monkeybcool, thanks05:21
nickrudubuntu-newbie, one more thing: go through the list, and remove all of the "us." ; us people seem to get the short end of the stick sometimes.05:22
kbrosnanyeah it is already formatted for linux swap,  fstab makes sene should have checked there first05:22
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ubuntu-newbienickrud, allright now what05:23
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Nihil85I have a problem: i can't access the shared folder. why i cannot do this? the shared folder window crashes and i have to kill it. how can i fix this problem?05:24
nickrudubuntu-newbie, sudo apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade05:24
ubuntu-newbieokay05:24
ubuntu-newbieis it more then 100 megs?05:24
nickrudubuntu-newbie, I would hope so :)05:25
ubuntu-newbie:P ok05:25
ubuntu-newbiemy connection is kinda slow .. so05:25
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DShepherdwhere can I get the static version of opera?05:25
nickrudubuntu-newbie, been there, it's not much fun.05:25
ubuntu-newbieyea05:26
ubuntu-newbie:S05:26
ubuntu-newbieman its 20k/sec05:26
ubuntu-newbie:P05:26
Nihil85can anyone give a hand to a poor ubuntu user that have followed any possible howto and guide to make a wireless lan? Pleeeaaseeeee05:26
ubuntu-newbiei dont know why im paying 100$ / mo for that kinda bullshit05:26
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intelikeyok i'm going to go break my system now.   good night averybody.05:27
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Xcercaanybody know how to set up a sound blaster card ?05:28
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dreamping/srv,/debootstrap,/opt what are the usage of these dir?05:28
snowowlCan someone tell me if KDE is open source and free as in freedom05:28
Xenguysnowowl: yes05:29
Xenguysnowowl: there were some issues in the past, but it's all good now05:29
ubuntu-newbieNeed to get 399MB of archives.05:29
ubuntu-newbieso its 400 megs???05:30
kbrosnanbimberi: thanks, if you have a firefox or mozilla ? just look me up at the mozilla irc server.05:30
Xcercawho has a sound card ?05:30
Xenguyintelikey: heh, have fun :-)05:30
snowowlI was interested in writing an app but could not decide weather to focus on qt or gtk05:31
Xenguysnowowl: I gather that GTK is C, whereas QT is C++05:31
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Xenguysnowowl: maybe that makes a difference?05:31
bimberikbrosnan: np :)05:31
ubuntu-newbienickrud here?05:31
Xenguysnowowl: I should say, GNOME is C, and KDE is C++05:32
ubuntu-newbieguys anyone? after upgrading to breezy.. it would all be okay and everything should work properly right?05:32
ubuntu-newbieeverything would be upgraded05:32
ubuntu-newbieno?05:32
Xenguysnowowl: AFAIK (last time I checked in, yada yada :-)05:32
snowowlIf language made a difference I'd be back in school rather than writing my app :)05:32
nickrudubuntu-newbie, had to leave for a sec05:33
Xenguyubuntu-newbie: yes...05:33
DShepherdneva mind I found the torrent for opera static--> http://www.opera.com/download/torrents/05:33
Xenguyubuntu-newbie: you may have to run the command a few times until everything is settled but it worked fine for me05:33
ubuntu-newbienickrud allright thanks alot man05:33
ubuntu-newbieXenguy allright man thanks05:33
nickrudubuntu-newbie, what's one night :)05:34
Xenguyubuntu-newbie: good luck05:34
Nihil85I have a problem: i can't access the shared folder. why i cannot do this? the shared folder window crashes and i have to kill it. how can i fix this problem?05:34
ubuntu-newbiehehe :)05:34
ubuntu-newbieill be away guy gotta go sleep, ill see you around ;)05:34
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ubuntu-newbielaters ;)05:34
nickrudse ubuntu-newbie05:34
Xenguyubuntu-newbie: just start d/l'ing, and go to bed :-)05:34
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ross_anyone know how to get wxwidgets apps like VLC and Audacity to look like everything else under Breezy?05:35
jedrickwho play xmame here? i have problem with the sound. anyone can help?05:35
Fuzztrying to install ubuntu 5.10 and it hangs on Python 2.4 everytime ? Anyone seen this before?05:35
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cafuegoFuzz: Did you burn the install cd yourself?05:36
bimberiFuzz: no, but it could be a bad CD (or one burnt from a bad iso)05:36
Fuzzyes I burnt it myself05:36
FuzzI will check the md5's and re-burn05:37
cafuegoFuzz: Did you burn it at 8x or slower?05:37
Fuzzno05:37
cyrreI cant apt-get install openssh-server.. someone knows why I cant? or why its disabled05:37
bimberiNihil85: try "sudo /usr/bin/shares-admin" in a terminal and see if there's any errors05:37
FuzzI think it was 12x05:37
cafuegoFuzz: I've found most *buntu Cds won't work if done at over 8X.05:37
cafuegoFuzz: reburn at 8 and see how you go05:37
Fuzzahhhh05:37
Nihil85thanks bimberi. i will try it05:37
Fuzzok .... thanks cafuego, and bimberi05:37
bimbericyrre: what's the error? (use a pastebin if it's >1 line)05:37
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potuswhat package is /usr/local/include/bzlib.h included in on ubuntu 5.10.. im tring to install something and need that =/05:38
cyrrebimberi: okey.. but its in swedish.. can try to translate05:38
Nihil85bimberi, no, i can't see anything on the terminal. Only the window freezed....05:38
potusanyone help me out?05:39
bimbericyrre: ha, k :)05:39
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cafuegopotus: Nothing, packaged softare is NEVER in /usr/local05:39
cafuego!find bzlib.h05:39
bimberiNihil85: hm, not much to go on there :/05:39
potusor /usr/include05:39
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'bzlib.h' (1 shown): (/usr/include/bzlib.h) in libdevel/libbz2-dev.05:39
potusit look for the file in them 2 places05:39
Nihil85bimberi, so the only solution is to reinstall Ubuntu?05:40
potuswpw tjat find command is sweet05:40
cafuegopotus: Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoApt and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall05:40
cyrrefollowing packages has dependencies (damn:D) that couldnt be satisfied :  openssh-server: depends: open-sshclient :o05:40
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bimberiNihil85: not yet. perhaps reinstall the package that includes shares-admin05:41
cyrrebut when i apt-get install openssh-client it says that its already the latest version05:41
x86i Which VNC-type server does anyone perfer? Im wanting to play around alittle bit with them, and I was wondering if someone had a recommendation. Are there some that come ready to go via Synaptics?05:41
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cafuegox86i:  yes, search for 'vnc' in synaptic.05:42
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cafuego!depends openssh-server05:42
x86icafuego: I see several, but maybe there are more? I was wondering if anyone has used TightVNC, or FreeNX05:42
cafuegoI'm sure people have. See if searching the wiki turns up anything.05:43
bimberiNihil85: sudo sudo apt-get install --reinstall --purge gnome-system-tools05:43
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cyrre!depends openssh-server05:43
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x86iOddly enough, the Wiki doesn't contain ANY information regarding VNC05:44
Syphonistx86i: FreeNX is harder to get working correctly then TightVNC05:44
potus!find libexpat05:44
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'libexpat' (4 shown): libexpat-ocaml ;; libexpat-ocaml-dev ;; libexpat1 ;; libexpat1-dev.05:44
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dicksonhello05:44
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Taliskerok05:45
cyrrehow weird that is doesnt work05:45
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dicksoni need help05:45
dicksonwith linux05:45
bimberiNihil85: ...with only one sudo :P05:45
Taliskerafter going through several files I've realized that the startup script file is ~/.Xsession05:45
cyrrewrite what you need help with :-)05:45
Taliskerbut that still won't work05:45
dicksonbasa de mmg05:45
dicksoni m having05:46
Nihil85bimberi, i'm at the desktop pc. the shared folders problem is at the laptop, that is not connected to internet05:46
dicksonproblems05:46
Nihil85bimberi, so i typed that command, but the shell remembered me that i'm not connected with that pc05:46
x86iOmnineo: Does installing TightVNC via Synaptics include the Gnome configuration portion for it? Or will it be the usual way?05:46
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melalcooliquehi05:47
Omnineoafaik It just installs the console tools05:47
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bimberiNihil85: i don't quite understand, but if the target comp. isn't on the net you could transfer the package to it (after downloading via http://packages.ubuntu.com) and put it in the /var/cache/apt/archives directory.  Then try that command05:48
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Nihil85bimberi, thanks. i will do it tomorrow because for me now is later!05:49
Nihil85bimberi, thanks a lot05:49
Omnineox86i: Are you on Breezy or dapper?05:49
bimberiNihil85: ha, k, sleep well :)05:49
TaliskerC'mon, how come none of you knows how to create a startup script05:50
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x86iOmnineo: Breezy... Would it be worth to check out Dapper?05:50
siph0n_im reading some web page on gumstix.org, and its saying that after i install the buildroot, i will have a working gcc cross-compiler in a certain folder... then it says to add this folder to my path and then i can use arm-linux-gcc as a cross compiler... but where do i add that directory path to?05:50
Omnineox86i: not yet05:50
Xcercais there any easy way to do anything is in this OS ?05:50
Pablolol05:51
Xcercai just want to get my sound card working and it's going to take a damn day to do it05:51
x86iXcerca: Most of it is pretty simple.05:51
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x86iXcerca: What kind of soundcard do you have?05:51
Xcercayea,  i know05:51
Xcercaa Sound Blaster Audigy 405:51
x86iXcerca: and the SB drivers wont work with it?05:52
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Xcercahow do you install it05:52
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Omnineothats a fairly new soundcard lol05:53
Xcercai have the emu10k package that a few web pages said to get...05:53
x86iXcerca: Use the device manager. You can add everything there.05:53
Omnineo*envy05:53
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blankyhey guys it's blank! but since my nick was taken, I switched to what girls call me! :)05:53
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Xcercait's in the device manager,    i just can't get it working05:53
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Xcercait said it would work with ALSA drivers05:54
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Xcercai am useing XMMS05:54
Xcercais there a better mp3 player out there for us ?05:54
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x86iXcerca: What drivers does the Manager say are being used on the soundcard? You can easily change them out, to try more then 105:54
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Xcercai'm pretty sure it's using the right one05:56
Xcercajust device manager syas unknown device05:56
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Omnineothe "emu10k1" one?05:56
Xcercayes05:56
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x86itry using one Ubuntu provides.05:57
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OmnineoXcerca: have you read the docs on the driver?05:58
DShepherddoes anybody device managers shows alot of 'unknown' ?05:58
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DShepherddoes anybody's device manager shows alot of 'unknown' ?05:58
Xcercayes,    i just need more time to go over some stuff05:59
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Xcercai love this OS though06:00
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Xcercakicks the shit out of windows06:00
cecHI06:00
Omnineoseems kinda odd, the same driver is used for audigy2 and I have installed warty on a systems with an audigy2 and it worked jsut fine06:00
Xcercawhats warty ?06:00
nickrudMy processor shows as unknown :)06:01
Omnineoolder version of Ubuntu06:01
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x86iUbuntu rocks my socks06:01
Xcercadid it auto detect it and work?  or did you install the driver yourself ?06:01
Omnineoauto-detect06:01
bimberiDShepherd: yep, my device manager doesn't know much either06:02
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Xcercai dled a emu10k1 package but don't really now how to connect it to my sound card06:02
x86iIsnt there a command in Debian for scanning new hardware again in console?06:02
DShepherdbimberi: is that a bug or a feature? or just a buggy feature?06:02
nickrudDShepherd, it's interesting, the left panel shows stuff by name, but the right shows unknown06:02
Omnineoyou need to tell also to use the driver06:02
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bimberiDShepherd: all of the above :P06:03
DShepherdnickrud: yup...very interesting06:03
La_PaRCaHey. Anyone here has worked with eclipse 3.1 and ubuntu? I have a problem with the Visual Editor plugin.06:03
DShepherdnickrud: very pointless though...06:03
nickrudwell, it is version 0.5.306:03
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mebaran151I can not seem to get dmix to work06:03
mebaran151for my Via Envy onboard snd06:03
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DShepherdbimberi: so you know how i can get info about my system via command line?06:03
DShepherdnickrud: : so you know how i can get info about my system via command line?06:04
mebaran151DShepherd, what do you want to know?06:04
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mebaran151 /dev has useful things06:04
nickrudDShepherd, try dmidecode, it has a bit06:04
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th3flawl3ss1anybody know of a newsgroup client for ubuntu?06:04
DShepherdmebaran151: for example info about my processor...speed, cache stuff like that06:05
x86iThunderbird06:05
jbroometh3flawl3ss1: thunderbird works06:05
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DShepherdmebaran151: name and maker is nice too06:05
th3flawl3ss1i forgot about the mail clients being able to do it... thanks06:05
siph0n_isnt there a way to save the output the command gives? cause its really long and i cant see the whole thing after i type it06:05
siph0n_like save it to a file06:05
nickrudDShepherd, dmidecode has that, and more06:05
bimberiDShepherd: cat /proc/cpuinfo06:05
dr_williscommand > file.txt06:05
x86ith3flawl3ss1: Or you can look in Synaptics, there is a category for Newsgroups06:05
DShepherdnickrud: so I see...much more06:05
siph0n_k kool :)06:05
siph0n_thanx06:05
dr_willisor command | less06:06
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mebaran151DShepherd, maker will be hard to get06:06
mebaran151look around /sys06:06
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bimberiDShepherd: also "sudo lshw" is pretty, um, detailed :)06:06
mebaran151you'll see lots of good stuf06:06
mebaran151f06:06
mebaran151yeah06:06
mebaran151lshw06:06
potusim having major problems installing apache+php5 for some reason..  anyone know a good tutorial i tried them all06:06
potus=/06:06
DShepherdbimberi: oh ok06:06
Ophiocusthis is one hell of a ryde. this ubuntu is06:06
DShepherdmebaran151: ok06:06
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x86ipotus: Any reason your using php5?06:06
mebaran151DShepherd, (cat is your friend)06:06
bimberiDShepherd: "cat /proc/cpuinfo" is worth a look06:07
DShepherdbimberi: kool.. going to check out that now06:07
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mebaran151dmix, I need help06:07
DShepherdnickrud:  found the manufacturer my cpu with sudo dmidecode06:08
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nickrudDShepherd, yeah, I like that it even tells you about the power button :)06:08
mebaran151DShepherd, uname -a06:08
l33txpGuys I downloaded the latest Release of Firefox.. how to I install it??06:08
mebaran151will tell you alot06:08
l33txpI have firefox-1.5rc2.rar.gz06:08
DShepherdmebaran151: I know about that command thanks06:08
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Victorwhat is the difference between 'ubuntu maintainers' and 'ubuntu members'?06:09
rabeldablel33txp:  did you read the install docs when you downloaded the file?06:09
DShepherdnickrud: mebaran151 bimberi *noting the commands we speak06:09
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VictorI mean in community06:09
gareth_hello06:09
l33txphaha.. sorry.. sleepy and late..06:10
Omnineomaintainers work on packages, members have contributed to the community and have a vote on the future changes to ubuntu06:10
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darknessHEllo, could anyone tell me how to compiler a .cpp file which is located on my desktop using the terminal?06:10
rabeldablel33txp: i'm sure its a simple process, just find the doc and follow the steps....06:10
DShepherdnickrud: mebaran151 bimberi how about my graphics card. Is there a link that I can get this info from....I'm going to google after I finsh the notes06:10
gareth_uisng linux?06:11
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polpakdarkness: g++ file.cpp -o progname06:11
darknessThanks06:11
TaliskerK06:11
DShepherdnickrud: mebaran151 bimberi I mean about commands and system info06:11
Xcercais there any good walkthrough pages for doing things ?06:11
th3flawl3ss1last question... can quickpar be run with linux without wine?06:11
TaliskerI've menaged to get ubuntu to accept the existence of ~/.xsession06:11
polpakdarkness: there are other flags you can use for debugging, optimizing, etc, but that's the basic06:11
Taliskerbut I get an error output with this line:06:12
Talisker(gnome-terminal:12435): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed06:12
Taliskerand that's about it06:12
nickrudDShepherd, a single command, no, I don't: I browse through /var/log/Xorg.0.log for that06:12
polpakXcerca: read the getting started guide06:12
darknessYeah, i just need to compile some simple programs that go with my C++ for dummies disk.06:12
Taliskeras if it ignores everything other then gnome-terminal06:12
DShepherdnickrud: k06:12
gareth_any one else having problem with real player on ubuntu06:12
polpakdarkness: that's assuming you've already installed g++06:12
Taliskereither that or it does'nt actually run anything06:12
l33txpwill there be a file in the archive or on the website??06:12
Omnineodarkness: take a look at:  http://users.actcom.co.il/~choo/lupg/tutorials/c-on-unix/c-on-unix.html06:13
Monkeybim trying to use make, (to instal ndiswrapper) but it complains i need kernal sources, where can i get those06:13
darknessThanks for the link.06:13
OmnineoMonkeyB: search in synaptic for kernel, the sources will be there06:14
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potuscan someone help me with php5 and apache.. i tried to apt-get install php5 apache2   and i cant get php to work in my /var/www?06:14
choudeshWhat package is mkinitrd in?06:14
darknessI got an error message saying " g++: ArrayDemo.cpp: no such file or directory. and then g++: No imput files06:14
SEJeffMonkeyb: Search for linux-kernel-headers, that is the package you need06:14
x86ipotus: Any reason your using php5?06:14
kapputuMonkeyb, do sudo apt-get install build-essential06:14
Monkeybi did that already06:14
polpakMonkeyb: Why not install ndiswrapper from apt-get?06:14
Monkeybcool06:14
Monkeybhow can i do that?06:14
Monkeybsudo apt-get ndiswrapper?06:14
OmnineoDarkness: Copy the file from your desktop to your home folder06:14
DShepherdnickrud: nice...... the log. Lots of stuff to swallow though06:14
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kapputusudo apt-cache search ndiswrapper06:15
OmnineoDarkness: I.E. /home/darkness06:15
polpakMonkeyb: Well there's ndiswrapper-utils06:15
darknessOk, hopefully this should work. I've only recently switched to linux from Windows. I'm finding the transition very smooth apart from things like this06:15
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VictorThanks!If want to be a member,membership need to be appointed. maintainers need to be appointed,too?06:15
polpakMonkeyb: I'd imagine that should have what you need06:15
nickrudDShepherd, compare it to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf: it's a good key to read the log by.06:15
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Omnineodarkness: just make sure your in the same directy as the file your trying to compile06:16
x86idarkness: :) Welcome to the other-side of the fence06:16
bimberiMonkeyb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper06:16
potuswhat more is their to installing php other then apt-get install --reinstall --purge apache2 php5.   for some reason it just wont work =(06:16
bimberiMonkeyb: iirc, your pc isn't on the net, is that right?06:16
Monkeybsweet06:16
polpakdarkness: Alternatively you could cd to your Desktop before running the command06:16
Monkeybyeah, i cant get it on lan, wired or wireless at this point06:16
Omnineodarkness: I dont remember how to get to the desktop in Ubuntu, i belive you can use this "cd .Desktop" when your in your home folder06:17
bimberiMonkeyb: ok, you can download packages via http://packages.ubuntu.com and transfer them too the pc06:17
Monkeybalrighty06:17
DShepherdnickrud: ok....I wish the device manager would would work though06:17
DShepherdnickrud: well wishes do come tru :)06:17
polpakOmnineo: I'm pretty sure it's just "cd ~/Desktop06:17
choudeshAnyone know what package mkinitrd is in?06:17
Omnineolol thanks06:17
bimberiOmnineo: no .    - ie. cd ~/Desktop06:18
Omnineoon a windows box atm ;)06:18
nickrudDShepherd, well, it's still beta; I've watched a lot of beta stuff become very nice06:18
nickrudor, fall by the wayside06:18
DShepherdnickrud: ok kool06:18
bimberiOmnineo: ewww, make sure you shower afterwards :P06:18
darknessThanks. Putting the file in my home directory worked.06:18
polpakOmnineo: or at least wash your hands.. ;p06:18
nickrudplastic gloves are very helpful06:19
OmnineoIf only the wife undstood anything I tell her06:19
darknessx86i: Thanks, i am enjoying this side of the fence much better.06:19
bimberi!find mkinitrd06:19
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'mkinitrd' (2 shown): bootcd-mkinitrd ;; mkinitrd-cd.06:19
bimberichoudesh: ^^^^^06:19
gareth_Anyone wanna chat?06:20
choudeshbimberi, mkrboot. :-)06:20
Victor Thanks!If want to be a member,membership need to be appointed. maintainers need to be appointed,too?06:21
bimberichoudesh: actually, my mistake, that only returned packages with mkinitrd in the name :/06:21
gareth_members?06:21
choudeshbimberi, yea. I always fall for that too. No prob.06:21
bimberichoudesh: initrd-tools (found via http://packages.ubuntu.com)06:21
Victor Thanks!If want to be a ubuntu community member,membership need to be appointed. ubuntu community maintainers need to be appointed,too?06:22
gareth_how does one become a unbuntu community member?06:23
threeseasstability of breezy is not what I'd expect from linux... but I rpobably just need to turn off apcm of what ever its called. --- anyone know how to do that (something with the grub command???)06:23
x86ithreeseas: When you boot up, hit ESC to get to the grub menu06:24
threeseasok when I set it will it stay ?06:24
Victorwhat is the difference between 'ubuntu developers' and 'ubuntu members'?06:24
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nickrudgareth_, do a search for member on the wiki, there's a few links, you also x86i06:25
threeseasrebooting06:25
x86inickrud: Don't you mean Victor?06:25
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jeff_hey guys06:25
nickrudsorry x86i yah, I do mean Victor ;)06:25
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jeff_what do you use for p2p c;ients on ubuntu?06:26
DShepherdjeff_: I use limewire06:26
nickrudjeff_, amule, gtk-gnutella, mldonkey06:26
x86ijeff_: We dont... P2P = Bad.06:26
jeff_lol06:26
jeff_ok thanks06:26
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jeff_how do you get limewire?06:26
DShepherdjeff_: go to the site....and download it.06:27
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mebaran151my dmix is not working06:27
mebaran151Would anyone please help me?06:27
jeff_o...k ill check it out06:27
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mebaran151I have a Via Envy onboard soundcard06:27
micahfis anyone else having problems modprobing the nvidia modules?06:27
bimberiVictor, gareth_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/community/processes/newmember06:27
nickrud!member06:28
ubotunickrud: Did you get hit by a windmill?06:28
nickrudbimberi ^^06:28
bimberiubotu member is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/community/processes/newmember06:28
ubotuokay, bimberi06:28
nickrudbetter than cigarettes, maybe06:28
bimberinickrud: :)06:28
bimberinickrud: lol06:28
nickrudheh06:29
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nickrudgonna go have one, can't smoke in the office06:29
VictorI have looked through that.But i still have some doult.06:29
gareth_cheers bimberi06:29
bimberigareth_: np :)06:29
jrsimsany networking gurus here?06:29
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x86ijrsims: I'm pretty good, but to be a guru, I'd have to have long greasy hair.06:30
jeff_yo guys breezy kicks ass06:30
jeff_in hoary it took like days and days06:30
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jeff_to set up my wireless card06:30
jeff_struggling with ndiswrapper06:31
gareth_me206:31
VictorIs the  leader of each team  appointed by community council or self-appointed?06:31
x86iYou know what I noticed about the Ubuntu install... the fonts take the longest to install.06:31
gareth_it did nothing06:31
jrsimsx86i: Good enough! :) I'm having trouble getting port forwarding on my Linksys router to work.06:31
jeff_lol yeah i know06:31
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jeff_i love the boot splash too06:31
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x86ijrsims: Which model?06:31
jesse_jeff_: some of us despise the boot splash ...06:31
jrsimsx86i: Basically, I have it configured to forward HTTP traffic to my ubuntu box, on which Apache is running. But no go.06:31
jeff_and the 'Add Application' program rocks06:31
Madpilotx86i: Ubuntu ships with a mountain of international fonts...06:31
jeff_you do?06:32
jeff_how come?06:32
choudeshNow we see how nicely SELinux plays with Ubuntu06:32
jrsimsx86i: it's the one that came with my Vonage service - the linksys RTP30006:32
x86ijrsims: Lemme PM you06:32
jrsimshey06:32
jrsimsCrap06:32
x86ilol06:32
jesse_jeff_: i cant watch individual boot scripts execute, which i sometimes need06:32
bobessutioAnybody know hot to get a ATI All IN Wonder 9800 tv tuner working?06:32
jrsimsx86i: how do I pm in irssi?06:32
x86ioh...06:32
x86ihrm06:32
Rev-Marcfile sharing- I have shared a folder on my wife's computer(running UBUNTU) how do I get to it from my laptop?06:32
jesse_jeff_: but i see where some would like the bootsplash :)06:32
x86iA windows doesnt pop up?06:32
jrsimsx86i: nope, but I see your text06:33
jeff_you can disable it though, have you read the thread on ubuntu forums about trimming the boot process?06:33
Monkeybso im trying to get wireless to work, i used ndis wrapper to install the inf for my network card. now i activated it in the network utility, but it doesnt work06:33
jrsimsx86i: irssi is all textmode06:33
choudeshbobessutio, Try the gatos stuff?06:33
jeff_yeah, ive only been using ubuntu since july so im still kinda new06:33
x86ijrsims: Yeah, I forgot lol. I guess just try /msg x86i06:33
VictorIf I find a bug,where should I report it,launchpad.net or bugzilla.net?06:33
jesse_jeff_: i already did, but im saying the bootsplash is bad!!!!! bad bad bad06:33
Rev-MarcLaptop is running Ubuntu also06:33
bobessutiochoudesh:got the package installed, but I don't know how to use it..06:33
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jrsimsx86i: ok, it's blocking my pm's cuz I'm not registered. :(06:34
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makkkhow do i access a memory stick that is inserted into a slot in my laptop?06:34
bimberiVictor: main/restricted -> bugzilla.ubuntu.com         universe/multiverse -> launchpad.net/malone06:34
x86ioh yeah06:34
bobessutioRev-Marc: have you tried right-click share?06:34
Madpilotjrsims: /help nickserv register06:34
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x86ijoin #x86i06:34
jrsimsMadpilot: thanks06:35
bobessutiomakkk, does it show up on the desktop?06:35
jeff_jesse_: lol ok. maybe ill agree with you in the future when i have become one with my computer06:35
makkkbobessutio, no06:35
Rev-MarcI have done that on her computer I just can't find where I go on mine to see it06:35
bimberiRev-Marc: yours ubuntu too?06:35
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jeff_what is a .rpm?06:35
bobessutioRev-Marc: do you have the ip of the targetr computer?06:36
Rev-MarcYES06:36
bimberiRev-Marc: places -> Connect to Server06:36
Rev-MarcNO IP06:36
Pablojeff it is a package for leik redhat06:36
bobessutioRev-Marc: hostname?06:36
Rev-Marcyes06:36
Pablosimilar to .deb for us or debian06:36
Rev-MarcI tried connect tgo server and no joy06:36
jeff_Pablo: ok thanks. i just got the limewire linux RPM and i dotn know what to do with it06:36
jesse_jeff_: ahahaha, i guess i just think less is more http://eng.utoledo.edu/~jbrown/Screenshot110205.png06:37
bimberiRev-Marc: you will need the address of the other pc (ifconfig on it will tell you)06:37
PabloI am no expert but I dont think you can do anyhting with it on ubuntu06:37
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bobessutioRev-Marc: try network servers?06:37
Victorbimberi:thanks. Is the  leader of each team  appointed by community council or self-appointed?06:37
bobessutiomakkk, don't know what to tell you...06:38
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bimberiVictor: i don't know sorry06:38
darksoulhow hard was it for you to delete windows? and afterwards how hard was it until you found linux fun to use...just wondering06:38
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johnsie2k!java06:38
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs06:38
makkkbobessutio, ok. do you know where i can find log files that might give me clues about something being inserted?06:38
bimberiPablo, jeff_: you can use alien to convert the rpm to a deb06:38
Madpilotdarksoul: very easy, to both questions ;)06:38
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bobessutiomakkk, /var/log06:38
Pablothats nice jesse_06:38
jesse_ty Pablo06:38
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jeff_bimberi: alien you say? where do i get that? synaptic?06:39
jesse_ubuntu + fluxbox = win06:39
Pablojesse_,  what do you use to display your stats like that?06:39
darksoulMadpilot: but im a hardcore gamer and its hard for me couse nothing runs smoth on the gaming area06:39
makkkbob, thanks06:39
bimberijeff_: yep06:39
jesse_Pablo: i use a program called conky06:39
jesse_Pablo: its in universe i think06:39
jeff_bimberi: thank06:39
bobessutiomakkk, try lsusb, adn see if it shows up06:39
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jeff_jesse_: lol that is one insane scree06:39
darksoulwhats your fav forums people?06:40
jeff_jesse_: one with your computer indeed06:40
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jesse_jeff_: borged :P06:40
Madpilotdarksoul: Enemy Territory runs well in Linux - so does America's Army - aside from that, all I play is Solitaire...06:40
jesse_Madpilot: Unreal Tournament 2k4 and Nexuiz!!!!!!!!!!06:40
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darksoulMadpilot: what is your fav forums? phpbb, what?06:41
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Pablothanks jesse_ ... instlling now06:41
makkkbobessutio, nothing obvious, but i'll look in /var/log06:41
Pablo:D06:41
Rev-Marcher IP I now have06:41
OmnineoDarksoul: Quake 4 was just released on Linux06:42
jesse_:D conky is easily edited for you to theme via an easy to understand config06:42
darksoulL06:42
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darksoulOmnineo: free?06:42
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Pablocool06:42
OmnineoDarksoul: You can also play Doom3, and your favorite games may work via cedaga06:42
jesse_Pablo: such configurability works well and is the method for fluxbox as well, which is why it owns gnome06:42
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Pablohmm06:43
OmnineoDarksoul: Well you have to purchase quake 4, but it works on both windows and linux with one purchase06:43
Pablodoes fluxbox run on gnome?06:43
jesse_Pablo: all fluxbox themes are simple config files, easily made to fit your taste06:43
Rev-MarcHow do I make sure we are both in the same work group?06:43
darksoulOmnineo: doom 3 demo worked..but lagged..im guessing its couse i have a 1.4ghz prosseser and 384mb ram, btw what is your fav forums? SMF, PHPBB?06:43
jesse_Pablo: just check out fluxbox, its in universe as well :)06:43
darksoulOmnineo: im thinking about making a linux forum..06:43
Pablobut... how do you run it?06:44
Omnineodarksoul: I would use PHPBB, I use that the most ie www.bendgamer.com06:44
jedrickhow to extract .tar.bz206:44
jedrick file?06:44
jesse_Pablo: fluxbox is in the sessions menu after an apt-get install fluxbox06:44
Vinicius_Ubuntutar jxf file06:44
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jedrickok thnx06:44
jesse_Pablo: when you log in, you can choose a session06:44
darksoulyou seen SMF?06:44
Vinicius_Ubuntujedrick, tar jxf06:44
johnsie2kre ubuntuforums.org down?06:45
Pablook06:45
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Vinicius_Ubuntuanyone know install ISA sound cards?06:45
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Rev-Marcwhere can I find a write up (howto) for file sharing in Ubuntu06:45
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jesse_johnsie2k: no, i can get to the forums06:45
zoydhi06:45
Rev-Marc?06:45
Pablojesse_,  do I need to config before I choose the session or just logout and login to fluxbox06:45
Vinicius_UbuntuRev-Marc, SAMBA ou NFS?06:46
jesse_Pablo: i suggest installing all the suggested packages first, then just log out and log in to flux06:46
Pablook06:46
johnsie2kand http://ubuntuforums.org/ is the right url?06:46
Pablobrb06:46
jesse_johnsie2k: yes sir06:46
Rev-Marcsince I do not know the difference both06:46
johnsie2kha.. my is must be retarded06:46
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Vinicius_Ubuntujohndilley, enter in www.ubuntulinux.org -> search for foruns :)06:47
jesse_johnsie2k: sounds that way, what country do you hail from06:47
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johnsie2kuk06:47
johnsie2kI might have a word with them06:47
jesse_johnsie2k: sounds like some odd interweb connectivitiy, im from the states and connect fine06:47
johnsie2kyeah.... unfortunately mine is prolly the biggest isp in the uk06:48
jesse_johnsie2k: firewall?06:48
fletch33quick question i installed ubu on my laptop and as soon as i was setup i was able to change my reolution to 1024x768 but i just installed it on my desktop and i can only get 640x480 what can i do tofix this06:48
johnsie2kall other sites are working06:48
jeff_do you guys know if trillian is available on linux?06:48
johnsie2kno jeff06:48
bimberifletch33: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:48
fletch33jeff_, gaim is better anyway06:48
johnsie2ku can try using wine to run it but i dont think it'll work jeff06:49
fletch33bimberi, thanks06:49
jeff_fletch33: lol but its so ugly06:49
bimberifletch33: yw :)06:49
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XlylithHi All, does anyone know how to enable USB CDMA Modem in Ubuntu?06:49
jesse_johnsie2k: i dont know what to tell you06:49
johnsie2ki'll just go through a proxy06:49
jeff_fletch33: do you know how to make small popup windows in the corner of the screen when somebody talks to you?06:49
johnsie2kand speak to my isp about it06:50
Pablothats sweet jesse_06:50
jesse_johnsie2k: sounds like a plan to me! good luck!06:50
fletch33bimberi, i installed this on my desktop to get back my remote desktop i sthat gonna work w/ubu or at least some version06:50
jesse_Pablo: yes indeed, and only a fraction of the memory usage of gnome06:50
johnsie2kI'm guessing that firefox allows proxies06:50
jesse_johnsie2k: yes06:50
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z3r0xhi guys06:51
fletch33jeff_,  no u lose that it will bring up all your contacts at least as far as i have been able to find06:51
jesse_Pablo: i actually have some other guys onboard to make a try at a Fluxbuntu projec[#ubuntu]  Pablo: i actually have some other guys onboard to make a try at a Fluxbuntu projectt06:51
z3r0xwhat tool do you use to burn cd?06:51
bimberifletch33: not with you, do you mean "can i run vnc?"06:51
jesse_oops06:51
fletch33jeff_, i miss that too06:51
fletch33bimberi, so it is called vnc06:51
XlylithHi All, does anyone know how to enable USB CDMA Modem in Ubuntu?06:52
zxsykcoAnyone know of a good ftp server?06:52
zxsykcogftp?06:52
z3r0xzxsykco, glftpd rules06:52
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Xlylithzxsykco, vsftpd is fine06:52
Pablo:D06:52
zxsykcoThankee, all!06:52
z3r0xzxsykco, http://www.glftpd.com/06:52
jesse_Pablo: i actually have some other guys onboard to make a try at a Fluxbuntu project06:53
fletch33bimberi,  i used me desktop as a server per say to pplay music on my stereo and video on my tv and kept alll the files on it and was able to see and control it will i have that again06:53
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bimberifletch33: ubuntu installs with a vnc client (Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client) and server (System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop)06:53
Pablojesse_, that sounds great06:53
PabloI am going to have to play with this06:53
bimberifletch33: or you can install openssh-server if you only need CLI access06:53
XlylithHi All, does anyone know how to enable USB CDMA Modem in Ubuntu? everytime I plug my modem into my laptop, Breezy got hung06:53
jesse_Pablo: if nothing, i will generate some default configs and wiki them06:53
fletch33bimberi, so it will be similiar to the windows version06:53
jesse_Pablo: themes and all06:53
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z3r0xdoes anybody know a good tool to burn cds?06:53
Pabloyou already have?06:53
Salihu_AFKIs there a net install for Ubuntu like there is for Debian?06:54
jesse_z3r0x: gnomebaker will do fine06:54
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bimberifletch33: yes06:54
jesse_Pablo: my configs are about half done06:54
z3r0xjesse_, thx06:54
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jesse_z3r0x: no problem!06:54
fletch33bimberi, thanks i am trying to go completly with ubu so i just changed my server to ubu06:54
Pablojesse_, ok... let me know when you get them dont further... is there a way to hide the terminal window once I start a program?06:54
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bimberiSalihu: there are some advanced install methods documented at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation06:55
PabloI also need to rtfm... I know :P06:55
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bimberifletch33: np :)06:55
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SalihuThanks Bimberi..06:55
threeseasHmmm, removed powernowd and the responce of the system so far seem to be better --- Hmm I was/am overclocking the cpu a little06:55
bimberiSalihu: np :)06:55
jesse_Pablo: there are a number of ways, but if you have all the suggested flux packages there is an embedded "run" command you can add to your menu06:55
potuswould anyone know how i can use html forum user INPUT's as a string in a url? e.g. ftp://$textbox1:$textbox2@host/06:55
jesse_Pablo: try "fbrun" in a terminal06:55
jesse_Pablo: or add it to your menu if you know how. the documentation is very clear06:56
fletch33bimberi,  i am having a pronblem though i had to remove my video card to get it to work and go back to the 1 that came with my machine but the 1 i had to remove is the 1 that is connected to my tv06:56
darksoul!afi06:56
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, darksoul06:56
darksoul!ati06:56
ubotusomebody said ati was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1006:56
jesse_Pablo: but i would like all to be able to use flux without tweaking, hence making some general configs for a wiki06:56
Pablook thanks06:56
jesse_Pablo: no problem!06:57
Pablojesse_,  pm ok?06:57
jesse_Pablo: yessir06:57
bimberifletch33: hm, getting outta my league :| - perhaps look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards06:58
bimberi!coffee06:58
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bimbericheers :)06:58
jesse_!beer06:58
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, jesse_06:58
jesse_i want beer, ubotu!06:58
fletch33bimberi,  do u use vnx06:58
Omnineo!cheese06:58
ubotucheese is probably a milk-based product, created by mixing milk or cream with rennet. The resulting mixture is then drained of its whey, and often aged. http://www.cheese.com/06:58
fletch33bimberi, vnc06:58
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jeff_bimberi: i installed alien off synaptic, but when i try to 'sudo dpkg -i' it tells me the .rpm is not a debian package06:59
fletch33bimberi, can i start to use it right away to set up my new desktop because i am on my laptop and my server is in a clost and a pain to stand around at06:59
Madpilotjesse_: try !beer now :)07:00
jesse_!beer07:00
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jesse_omg ownage07:00
jesse_:)07:00
z3r0xjesse_, it's working well thx again07:00
jeff_does antony know how to install non-debian packages?07:00
jesse_z3r0x: anytime!07:00
fletch33bimberi,  do u know if it will let me completely control it07:00
jesse_jeff_: yes07:00
jeff_jesse_: could you help me out07:00
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jesse_jeff_: try a "sudo alien -i <RPM>"07:00
jeff_jesse_: ok thanks man07:00
jesse_jeff_: if that doesnt work, try "man alien" to see options07:01
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fletch33bimberi,  sorry i am sure u r busy i will just play around w/it07:01
bimberifletch33: yes, i've used vnc. yes, it allows complete control07:01
fletch33bimberi, where is it located an how do i start itr07:01
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bimberifletch33: vnc client (Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client) and server (System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop)07:02
jeff_jesse_: ok something is happening. is it installing right where the .rpm is?07:02
bimberifletch33: not busy, just drinking the aforementioned coffee :P07:02
jesse_jeff_: no, its using the rpm as if it were a debain package. thats what alien does :)07:03
zoydhow do i get server-side includes working in ubuntu, i don't see a seperate pkg for it07:03
jeff_ok07:03
jesse_jeff_: debian*07:03
fletch33bimberi, trying it now thanks07:03
GTroyalien allows you to install rpms?07:03
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GTroyjesse_: did I get that right?07:04
zoydGTroy, it converts between pkg formats07:04
zoydGTroy, rpm -> deb ... deb -> rpm07:04
JadussD!w32codecs07:04
ubotufrom memory, w32codecs is for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/07:04
bimberiGTroy: yes, although i think it should have a -ihavetriedveryhardtofindanubuntudebpackage switch before you can use it07:05
Sedgeanyone who can help a first time linux user setup the jdk on my machine? send me a query if so07:05
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GTroyhheeheheeh07:05
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fletch33bimberi,  well ia m getting lost sorry but i sthe user name the name i set up on that computer and is the passwrd the same07:05
bimberiubotu tell sedge about java07:05
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jeff_jesse_: ok i think it installed but when i click the icon in the applications menu it doesnt start07:05
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bimberifletch33: you configure the password on the server side (via the Remote Desktop gui), no username is needed07:06
fletch33bimberi,  duh i guess ineed to set it up on the "server" first losing it i guess07:06
Seveasgooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu!07:06
deFryskjeff_, many converted .debs just dont work07:06
jeff_jesse_: damnit07:06
deFryskmogguh Seveas07:06
bimberiafternoon Seveas :)07:06
Astxistmorning Seveas07:06
Astxister I mean afternoon07:06
MadpilotSeveas: I think you just used up a week's supply of "o"... ;)07:06
jeff_jesse_: how do i get rid of it and install limewire correctly?07:06
Seveasmguh deFrysk07:06
Seveassrry Madpilt :)07:07
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fletch33bimberi,  do use any security on ubu like a firewall or anti-virus07:07
bimberifletch33: nope07:07
fletch33bimberi, so i dont need to worry07:07
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Sedgewhat are the default ports i need to forward through my router when accessing remote desktop in ubuntu from an outside source using vnc?07:08
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bimberifletch33: that depends on what else you install, or what you're going to use it for07:08
OmnineoSedge: 5950, 595107:08
Sedgethanks07:08
Sedge=)07:08
Sedgewhat's a good vncviewer to use from a windows box?07:09
Sedgei'm trying to setup access from my school machines07:09
bimberifletch33: if you run a mailserver for windows clients, then antivirus is a good idea07:09
ranjithi07:09
OmnineoSedge: realvnc.com07:09
Sedgegotcha07:09
SeveasSedge, forget vnc07:09
Seveasuse freenx :)07:09
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darksoulsould i make a forum for linux/anything else?07:09
Seveasdarksoul, there are enough of those already :)07:10
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jeff_does anyone know how to get Limewire on ubuntu?07:10
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NoUse!limewire07:10
ubotuwell, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.07:10
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Seveas!botsnack07:10
ubotuthanks seveas :)07:10
stuporglueJeff Waugh is supposed to visit our UUG tomorrow as part of the BadgerBadgerBadger tour, but I don't know when to get him from the airport. Does anyone know where he's at?07:10
deFrysk:D07:10
darksoulSeveas: grrrrrrrr lol..is 384mb ram good on linux for games like doom3, wow, and such>07:10
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fletch33bimberi, well i just got started on linux in general 4 days ago and i looked around a choose ubu the server does nothing but hold my 490Gb of info and downolads my videos and stuff and my laptop is for comtroilling it and my laptop is for email and contacts for work so what do u t07:11
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ispikedhow much SATA support does Ubuntu provide for laptops?07:11
Seveasdarksoul, only with a large amount of swap :)07:11
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Seveasispiked, full07:11
vagranthello,every one07:11
fletch33bimberi, think07:11
Seveashi vagrant07:11
phoghawkCan anyone help me fix an odd ALSA problem (I think it's ALSA). My system seems to freeze after playing music for a few minutes. It often freezes between track changes if that's important.07:11
darksoulSeaveas: would 1024mb make games run fast?07:11
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ispikedSeveas: so all the stuff on this page wouldn't apply? http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problems_with_SATA_and_Linux07:12
Seveasdarksoul, with most games, the graphics card is the bottleneck07:12
ispikedSeveas: core issue: I think I can't suspend to disk (hibernate) because I'm using SATA.07:12
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jesse_jeff_: sorry, i walked away. are you still having issues with limewire?07:12
bimberifletch33: if they're both ubuntu i'd be happy to run them w/o firewall/antivirus07:13
crimsunphoghawk: cat /proc/asound/cards07:13
fletch33bimberi,  i keep getting unable to resolve host07:13
Seveasispiked, I think the issue s something else07:13
fletch33bim07:13
phoghawkcrimsun, are you saying I should type that in a terminal and paste output here?07:13
ispikedstuporglue: I sure hope you find him, 'cause he's awesome.07:13
Seveassuspend to disk and sata should work together07:13
darksoulhow hard was it for you to delete windows and then get on with life afterwards>07:13
ispikedstuporglue: he talked at our LUG meeting last wednesday.07:13
crimsunphoghawk: no, you should paste the output onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:13
maquisispiked: yeah... he's supposed to talk at ours tomorrow night07:14
ispikedSeveas: OK. I'll post what I have on the forums.07:14
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ispikedSeveas: unless you want to hear it first. :P07:14
fletch33bimberi, would a restart help matbe07:14
Seveasstuporglue, try to ping mdz, sabdfl or mako - they should have his mobile number07:14
Seveasor contact the canonical office07:14
bimberifletch33: you probably should just use the ip address07:14
maquisSeveas: according to his blog, he doesn't have his cell phone anymore... but we'll try that07:15
phoghawkcrimsun, I Pasted07:15
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fletch33bimberi, can u tell me how to do that simply or is that too much info07:15
phoghawkcrimsun, I have output, it just freezes after awhile.07:15
darksoul why did you all delete windows? and how hard was it with so little gaming support......07:15
phoghawkdarksoul, I don't game on PC. That's how. lol. I can't believe you're still here darksoul07:16
bimberifletch33: no, open a terminal and type ifconfig, look for something after "inet addr" that isn't 127.0.0.107:16
darksoulphoghawk: shutup lol07:16
fletch33bimberi, k doing that07:17
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crimsunphoghawk: so which card are you using when it "freezes"?07:17
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darksoulphoghawk: when is ubuntu going to start selling in stores? i would love to know lol07:17
phoghawkcrimsun, THe Audigy07:17
z3r0xwhat are backports?07:17
phoghawkdarksoul, I think you're joking. But I'm not sure07:17
Omnineodarksoul: do you have your videocard 3d drivers installed?07:18
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NoUsedarksoul why sell it when you can give it away?07:18
phoghawkz3r0x, They're some repositories07:18
darksoulOmnineo: yes..it just lags real bad in the game07:18
jeff_darksoul: i deleted windows because i hate M$ and found that supporting linux is the socially responsible thing to do07:18
fletch33bimberi, so i want my external ot internal sddress07:18
fletch33bimberi, bad typing sorry07:19
darksouljeff: yea, but no games support really....anyway i deleted windows couse im pissed at M$ and i had just gotten rootkit..and i didint want to reinstall07:19
jesse_jeff_: but how else will you play BF2, CS:S, and other direct-x games natively?!?!?!07:19
bimberifletch33: internal i would say07:19
jesse_i keep windows for games07:19
fletch33bimberi,  like the 192.---07:19
bimberifletch33: yep07:19
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fletch33bimberi, k07:20
darksouljesse: i did keep it for games..then i got rootkit and deleted it asap07:20
bimberifletch33: unfortunately i've gtg, but that's probably a good thing for you because there's some smart people here who can hopefully help (they might need some background tho) :)07:20
hyphenateddarksoul: there's a shop here that sells boxed sets07:20
maquisseveas do you have any info on how we could get ahold of those people (or the canonical office)?  it appears that none of them are online currently.07:20
maquiser....07:20
jesse_darksoul: i can see how a rootkit would deter you, but i would just opt for a reinstall ... cmon ... BF2!!!!!!!!!!!07:20
maquisseveas isn't around anymore...07:20
fletch33bimberi,  well thnaks07:21
darksouljesse_: reinstall = 9 hours, 10 hours for my online games, then another 2 days for rest07:21
bimberifletch33: good luck07:21
fletch33bimberi,  have a good night07:21
hyphenateddarksoul: for a laugh, go to http://dse.co.nz and search for ubuntu (or fedora or other ones like that)07:21
darksouljesse_: Also, dont forget reinstalling linux, windows restore software = bad07:21
VictorWho is the chairman to Community Council ?sabdfl?07:22
jesse_darksoul: you dont keep a backup windows image?07:22
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darksoulhyphenated: hahahah 5$ for ubuntu07:22
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phoghawkcrimsun, sorry, my computer froze lol07:23
crimsunphoghawk: does the computer freeze hard, forcing you to reboot?07:23
jeff_jesse_: yeah im trying to get the necessary java packages to see if it will work after that07:23
crimsunphoghawk: and how have you determined that it's related to ALSA?07:23
phoghawkcrimsun, yes, any sound that was outputting loops the last half second or so07:23
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jesse_jeff_: yeah, limewire works just fine with a correctly installed java syatem07:24
phoghawkcrimsun, well it doesn't always loop. Sometimes it's just a high-pitched continuous tone07:24
phoghawkcrimsun, No, it's just a guess. i really have no idea07:24
jeff_jesse_: lol i dont know man, im in school and games are like my achilles tendon07:24
jeff_jesse_: what do i need for that07:24
jeff_?07:24
crimsunphoghawk: does not using snd-emu10k1 (i.e., force-unloading the module) prevent the crash? That will necessitate using the cmipci for a while.07:24
Bollenatorlittle help: I've been watching my fs_used field in torsmo rise by 10-30 MB per day since installing it; anyone know of a good way to track down extra MBs?07:25
phoghawkcrimsun, I'm not exactly a linux expert lol. Perhaps you could explain what cmipci is? as well as how to force-unload the module07:25
Bollenatorit's not /tmp (only 118K)07:25
phoghawkcrimsun, is cmpci just my onboard sound?07:26
jedrickhow to remove install programs?07:26
crimsunphoghawk: in a Terminal, type: echo snd-emu10k1 | sudo tee -a /etc/hotplug/blacklist07:26
phoghawkjedrick, apt-get remove programname07:26
crimsunphoghawk: then reboot07:26
deFryskjedrick, sudo apt-get remove <package>07:26
phoghawkcrimsun, thank you sir07:26
jedrickit says that theres no file and theres nothing to remove, why is that07:27
phoghawkcrimsun, I'm rebooting, I'll be back07:27
jesse_jeff_: i dont understand? i thought you were getting java for limewire?07:27
deFryskjedrick, package = packagenamewithoutanynumbersetc07:27
jedrickk07:28
jedrickdeFrysk: same dude07:28
deFryskjedrick, what package ?07:28
jedrickxmame, a game emulator07:29
deFryskjedrick, installed with a .deb ?07:29
jedrickno, apt07:29
Bollenatorhmmm, any ideas?07:29
deFryskapt-get remove xmame07:29
deFryskshould do it07:29
jeff_jesse_: i am, but what do i need for a correct java installation?07:29
jedrickPackage xmame is not installed, so not removed07:29
deFryskjedrick, apt installs .deb's07:30
deFryskjedrick, then its already uninstalled07:30
jedrickno it's not coz i can even play using the command xmame -x11 bla blah blah07:30
deFryskjedrick, see if you can find the package in synaptic if its still there07:30
jedrickok07:31
jesse_jeff_: the guide ubotu gave you should work07:31
jesse_!java07:31
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs07:31
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phoghawkwho was helping me with my soundcarred?07:32
deFryskphoghawk, crimsun was07:33
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phoghawkdeFrysk, thanks07:33
jedrickdeFrysk: ye it's still in there, there are four of them xmame-common, -sdl, -svga and -tools07:33
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phoghawkcrimsun, It's weird I ran that command and rebooted. Should I still have sound coming out of the Audigy? Because I do07:33
deFryskjedrick, uninstall the ones who are installed07:34
crimsunuh...07:34
crimsunphoghawk: paste the output of lsmod onto paste07:34
phoghawkcrimsun, just run "lsmod"?07:34
jedrickok07:34
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phoghawkcrimsun, I pasted it07:35
crimsunphoghawk: next time please pass me the url, thanks07:36
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daakuany bash guru's? i seem to have forgotten how to do a not on a condition (something like if !grep foo bar; then echo "no"; fi)07:36
eric__how to install a gz package?07:36
H-moongood morning.07:36
eric__tar somefile07:36
phoghawkcrimsun, sorry, do you still need it?07:37
eric__then how to do next?07:37
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deFryskeric__, what package ?07:37
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eric__x download07:38
deFryskeric__, needed for ?07:38
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eric__downloading software07:38
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cafuegoeric__: What does the .tar.gz file contain?07:39
deFryskeric__, use wget or gwget07:39
eric__makefile.am, install07:39
crimsunphoghawk: tail /etc/hotplug/blacklist07:39
cafuegoeric__: What *software*, not what files07:39
deFryskeric__, or aget07:39
eric__I don't know how to install it.07:39
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cafuego!+compiling07:39
ubotuCompiling software when you have no idea what you're doing is _not_ a good idea. You will probably end up breaking your system and you can safely assume nobody here will want to help you after that. If there is a precompiled version, just use THAT instead. Really.07:39
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deFryskthank you ubotu :D07:40
eric__downloader for X07:40
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deFryskeric__, find downloaders in synaptic , there are lots07:41
casey_Can anybody help me? I have a real problem with ubuntu. There seems to be a glitch or something.07:41
phoghawkcrimsun, do you want me to paste that output? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/455607:41
phoghawkcasey_, just ask the question07:41
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eric__Do you know any other download tools for ubuntu?07:41
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darknessWhat exactly do download toosl do?07:42
cafuegoeric__: For downloading _what_ specifically? Just files from ther web? use a web browser.07:42
darknessDo they just download things for you, or do they install them too?07:42
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Astxistisn't there a download manager in the package manager?07:42
johnsie2kwhat is the pengin liberation front?07:42
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johnsie2k!plf07:42
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, johnsie2k07:42
eric__but I find the web browser too slow07:42
cafuegojohnsie2k: google is your friend07:42
varsendaggermilkn, echo -e "nameserver 4.2.2.1" > /etc/resolv.conf07:43
eric__I never use linux before07:43
varsendagger--never mind07:43
cafuegoeric__: Upgrade your internet connection.07:43
johnsie2klol07:43
eric__deFrysk: Where are you from?07:43
cafuegoeric__: You're not going to be able to speed up the downloads by installing extra software; byd efault it downloads at the maximum speed you connect at (or the server is connected at)07:43
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casey_When I first installed Ubuntu on my computer I was able to set my monitor to 1024x768 at 75 hz. I uninstalled everything from my hard drive and repartitioned because it also had Windows XP and it was having problems. When I reinstalled Ubuntu I am no longer able to use 75 hz. My only option is 60 hz which my eyes can pick up on and it gives me migraines.07:43
phoghawkcasey_, Try reconfiguring xserver-xorg07:44
varsendaggerhey i am trying to configure fluxbox and i need to find out how to start programs with the menu07:44
casey_I have no idea what that means.07:44
casey_I'm a linux newbie.07:44
eric__cafuego: Could I know where you are from?07:44
phoghawkcasey_, open a terminal and type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"07:44
cafuegoeric__: Same place as deFrysk07:45
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deFryskvenus07:45
cafuegoplus or minus a few hundred K07:45
deFryskplanning to move to mars tho ;p07:45
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H-moonum, how do i get a root password in unbuntu?07:45
eric__Netherland?07:45
NoUse!tell H-moon about root07:45
cafuegoYep.07:45
deFrysk!tell H-moon about root07:45
H-moonthanks07:45
phoghawk!tell phoghawk about root07:45
phoghawklol07:45
deFryskdang NoUse07:46
varsendagger!tell me about root07:46
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Madpilot!tell casey_ about fixres07:47
ElBaronohi07:47
phoghawkcrimsun, are you still here or are you just doing some researching07:47
phoghawkHello ElBarono07:47
ElBaronois there a fix for the BADSIG problem yet?07:47
coolstrangerhello07:47
coolstrangermelissa07:47
phoghawk!tell phoghawk about fixres07:47
coolstrangerhi07:47
phoghawklol07:47
varsendagger!tell varsendagger about root07:47
varsendaggerdanmit07:48
varsendagger!root07:48
ubotusomebody said root was disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo07:48
phoghawksomeone tell ubotu to tell me about fixres07:48
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darknessHey, does anyone know if there are some GOOD tutorials on using the terminal for people new to Ubuntu?07:48
crimsunphoghawk: I'm actually at work07:48
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crimsunphoghawk: /msg ubotu fixres07:48
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grace_wow07:48
phoghawkcrimsun, oh sorry07:48
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grace_is there a seperate channel for edubuntu07:48
Madpilotgrace_: #edubuntu07:49
varsendaggerwhat is special aobut edubuntu?07:49
grace_there is this teachers tools on the edubuntu site07:49
phoghawkcrimsun, messaging ubotu isn't helping. Nothing happens. I feel dumb07:49
varsendagger--- i know it is for education07:49
dudehow do i open the uneverse and multiverse07:49
crimsunphoghawk: eh, no wonder. You made a typo. It's not "snd-cmu10k1", it's "snd-emu10k1".07:49
Madpilot!tell dude about repos07:49
darknessOooO, i did that ladt night dude!07:49
ElBaronohi, can someone please tell me WTF is the fix for the BADSIG problem?07:49
deFrysk!tell dude about repositories07:49
ElBaronothis is getting annoying07:49
crimsunphoghawk: you're not identified to services07:49
cafuego!gpgerr07:49
ubotuIf you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.07:49
grace_I want to suggest they look at including moodle.org07:49
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varsendaggerdude, y'll ahve to add it to the sources.list07:49
grace_they seem like minded07:50
cafuego!info moodle07:50
ubotumoodle: (Course Management System for Online Learning), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.5.2-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 13124 kB, Installed size: 81040 kB07:50
dudeoh yeah sources list07:50
cafuegomoodle is in 'universe'.07:50
grace_ok well thats great cause thats my next question07:50
cafuegoElBarono: ... or use a different mirror.07:50
dudehow do i open sources list in the command line07:50
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grace_where do I find this universe and multiverse sources business07:50
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cafuegodude: any text editor.07:50
grace_I have to show a windows user07:50
cafuegodude: 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'07:51
deFryskdude, sudo <anyeditor> /path/to/whatever07:51
cafuego!repos07:51
ubotuit has been said that repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource07:51
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grace_ah yes I was next off to synaptic07:52
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dudeit says uncomment two lines these? ##07:53
phoghawkcrimsun, sorry, another computer freeze. How do I reverse my typo. And what should I actually type again?07:53
H-moonum, is there a !tell for networking with a powerPC?07:53
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NoUseH-moon networking shoudl be the same for all archs07:53
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H-mooni see...07:54
shadowpoolhello all07:54
crimsunphoghawk: edit /etc/hotplug/blacklist using an editor. Change cmu10k1 to emu10k107:54
phoghawkcrimsun, okay07:54
phoghawkcrimsun, then reboot?07:54
H-mooni can see my router, but i cant connect to the internet....07:54
H-mooni dont know where to go from there.07:54
crimsunphoghawk: yes07:54
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varsendaggerH-moon,  echo -e "nameserver 4.2.2.1" > /etc/resolv.conf07:55
NoUseH-moon did you get an IP address from the touer?07:55
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phoghawkcrimsun, okay, brb07:55
shadowpoolhas anyone tried nexuiz on ubuntu?07:55
grace_should i turn on the back-port repositories or better to remove them?07:55
H-moonno, i assigned one.07:55
r0dgreeting oo-boon-tu-ers07:55
dudehow do i open up the sources so i can open the universe07:55
NoUseH-moon did you assing a gateway?07:56
crimsundude: use Synaptic> Settings> Repositories07:56
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grace_dude, I just did same and its excellent07:56
grace_should i turn on the back-port repositories or better to remove them?07:56
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grace_im running an amd sempron and some of the package indexes for amd64 were not found07:57
dudeok i opened that up now what07:57
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grace_dude, search for what you want to install07:57
H-moonNoUse: it seems i didnt.07:57
workbeanurggh... gpgv errors again07:57
grace_or rather07:57
NoUseH-moon that would do it, usually the gateway is the IP of the router07:57
grace_!repos07:57
ubotuhmm... repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource07:57
Madpilotgrace_: leaving the backports out unless there's something you specifically need is usually a good idea07:58
dudethats it07:58
dudeand then ad07:58
dudeadd07:58
H-moonNoUse: it is...07:58
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Madpilotdude: read the first URL in ubotu's post above, it'll walk you through the process07:58
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phoghawkcrimsun, Hey, I'm sound-free lol. So... now what do I do?07:59
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NoUseH-moon so its working now?08:00
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kapputuany resources on improving performance with low memory computers?08:00
r0dhow here is a dapper user? thoughts if so08:00
r0d*who08:00
NoUsekapputu might want to run XFCE instead of gnome08:01
H-moonNoUse: no, i cant figure out how to add the gateway.08:01
intelikeykapputu what are you calling "low memory" ?08:01
kapputuNoUse, that takes out the fun08:01
kapputu256meg08:01
kapputuP-III 85008:01
NoUseH-moon have you tried the gnome network settings program?08:01
H-moon*nods*08:01
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H-moonapps --> sys tools --> network tools?08:02
NoUseH-moon yeah08:02
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kapputuintelikey, this is a laptop with a 4200 rpm drive08:02
kapputubreezy is like there is no breeze at all08:03
NoUseH-moon click on the eth device and click properties08:03
NoUseH-moon you'll see it08:03
intelikeykapputu rule of thumb, killing anything you don't need helps in most cases.08:03
H-moonNouse, i have a configure button...08:04
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CryptidIS there a keyboard short cut to shutdown the computer?????08:04