[12:00] <synapsis_> phoghawk: : i see it, just going through the setup
[12:00] <NoUse> LaLO please don't paste
[12:00] <nalioth> LaLO: read the /topic. dont paste in here, please
[12:00] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: Breezy
[12:00] <thrush> chrisx1: have to leave for a few min sorry
[12:00] <rightc0ast> daminap, do you codec for win32? or plugin for an app like vlc?
[12:00] <LaLO> ok
[12:00] <chrisx1> ok mate np
[12:00] <rightc0ast> do you mean*
[12:00] <cratel1> how to congifure new hard disk in ubuntu linux machine
[12:00] <phoghawk> Tyrael_tc any solution I've ever seen is just replacing the pixmap for that specific image.
[12:00] <daminap> rightc0ast: i just need the plug in name
[12:00] <kookanurranz67> how can i view a 'mpg' file thru ubuntu?
[12:00] <LaLO> please help me
[12:01] <martix> phoghak: could yopu tell me how to modify it?
[12:01] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: thats gay... you know where it is by chance?
[12:01] <veloct> LaLO: what's the filesystem?
[12:01] <theblue> Hi all.
[12:01] <phoghawk> martix, hold on. Tyrael_tc, you too. lol
[12:01] <markl__> kookanurranz67: you might have to try installing something from a different source, perhaps VLC
[12:01] <LaLO> ext3
[12:01] <maddash> LaLO: what FS?
[12:01] <martix> ok thanks
[12:01] <rightc0ast> ok, well .mov are quicktime files and win 32 codecs wont run those, but im still confused, what do you mean plugin? a codec right?
[12:01] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: kk
[12:01] <theblue> Does anyone know of a way to recover files from a hard drive using the Hoary Live CD?
[12:01] <markl__> kookanurranz67: that is what i plan to do
[12:01] <synapsis_> i know this is a lame question, but how do i download mp3s?
[12:02] <theblue> synapsis_: From where?
[12:02] <LaLO> Im not sure, but i  think ext3
[12:02] <jatos> er you goto the MP3 site find the MP3 then you right click ...
[12:02] <kookanurranz67> VLC?  any good?
[12:02] <cratel1>  how can i connect new hard disk in my pc
[12:02] <theblue> synapsis_: From a peer to peer thing?
[12:02] <daminap> what is the name of the mov plugin?
[12:02] <synapsis_> theblue: yeah something similar to ares, or limewire
[12:02] <theblue> synapsis_: There's GiFT for that, I've never used it, but its in APT.
[12:02] <maddash> LaLO: type in "sudo fdisk -l"
[12:02] <phoghawk> martix, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:02] <theblue> cratel1: Ok, here's what you do:
[12:03] <theblue> cratel1: Is this an IDE hard disk/system?
[12:03] <maddash> Lalo, Dump your output to the pastebin
[12:03] <cratel1>  how can i connect new hard disk in my linux machine
[12:03] <rightc0ast> :\
[12:03] <phoghawk> tyrael_tc, somewhere in /usr/share/pixmaps/
[12:03] <martix> phghawk: hmm let me try it
[12:03] <LaLO> FS is Linux
[12:03] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: kk
[12:03] <phoghawk> daminap, you'll have to install the w32codecs package
[12:03] <cratel1> yes i have IDE hard disk in my machine
[12:03] <xbox_sky> anyone managed to run a newsreader/web called "ninan" In ubuntu?
[12:03] <daminap> thanks through synaptic right?
[12:03] <theblue> cratel1: Ok, this is rather easy to do, just make sure you know how.
[12:03] <cratel1> but i want to add other hard of 300GB
[12:03] <phoghawk> daminap, assuming you have the repositories for it
[12:03] <veloct> LaLO: no the filesystem would be ext2 or ext3 or reiserFS
[12:03] <beginner1> good night
[12:04] <theblue> cratel1: Ok, now pick up the 300GB hard drive, and look at the back.
[12:04] <Siph0n> is there a hot key in ubuntu to start a terminal window?
[12:04] <phoghawk> Siph0n, I think it's F10 or something
[12:04] <maddash> LaLO: It's probably ext2 or ext3...here's what to do:
[12:04] <synapsis_> how can i transfer files from a usb drive?
[12:04] <daminap> yes but says its already in whats goin on
[12:04] <theblue> cratel1: You should notice a port with 4 big pins, one with lots of little pins, and a little 6 or 8 pin jumper port, which looks like the data port.
[12:04] <theblue> synapsis_: Just plug it in, Ubuntu will recognize it.
[12:04] <watnu> synapsis_: copy and paste
[12:05] <synapsis_> k thank you
[12:05] <phoghawk> Siph0n, turns out it's not, sorry. I think it may be one of the F keys though
[12:05] <Siph0n> k
[12:05] <Siph0n> thanx :)
[12:05] <maddash> Lalo: try "sudo mount /dev/****". in place asterisks type in your device name
[12:05] <cratel1> its maxtor dimaondmax 10
[12:05] <cratel1> its not ide hard disk
[12:05] <theblue> cratel1: ..
[12:05] <maddash> Lalo: what's the output?
[12:05] <ktogias_> Siph0n, System -> Preferencies -> Keyboard shortcuts
[12:06] <phoghawk> ktogias_, Good call
[12:06] <theblue> cratel1: Does it have 1) 4 big pins next to each other 2) a 39 or 40 pin connecter on the back, and 3) a little 6 or 8 pin port on the back?
[12:06] <cratel1> i connected SATA 150 TX@ card hard disk to my PC thaen i satrted my PC but was not working properly
[12:06] <LaLO> Cant find /dev/hdc5 in fstab
[12:06] <daminap> so then y wont the .mov files play now
[12:06] <cratel1> it was showing message loading ......
[12:07] <phoghawk> daminap, did w32codecs install well?
[12:07] <LaLO> Cant find /dev/hdc1 in fstab
[12:07] <daminap> it says theyre already in
[12:07] <theblue> cratel1: I don't know much about SATA, I can't really help you.
[12:07] <synapsis_> theblue: ok i hooked up the usb, however i don't know where to look for it
[12:07] <theblue> synapsis_: It should appear on the desktop.
[12:07] <maddash> LaLO: then do "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[12:07] <theblue> synapsis_: Or under /media
[12:07] <maddash> Lalo: and edit it on your own
[12:07] <Siph0n> thanx ktogias_ and phoghawk :)
[12:07] <chrisx1> synapsis_, u talkin about usb memory stick?
[12:07] <LaLO> ok now its ok
[12:07] <maddash> Lalo: do you know the fields to fill in?
[12:08] <LaLO> ubuntu@dhcppc0:/$ sudo mount /dev/hdc1
[12:08] <LaLO> mount: tipo de sistema de ficheros '' desconocido
[12:08] <synapsis_> chrisx1: yes
[12:08] <phoghawk> daminap, try "sudo apt-get install totem-xine" then try to use totem to play a .mov file
[12:08] <cratel1> thanks theblue
[12:08] <chrisx1> im having problem with that to
[12:08] <theblue> cratel1: No problem.
[12:08] <synapsis_> theblue: not there =(
[12:08] <LaLO> file system '' I dont know
[12:08] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: lol not there...
[12:08] <theblue> synapsis_: odd. What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[12:09] <maddash> Lalo: you probably didn't edit your fstab correctly
[12:09] <maddash> Lalo, what does the line containing /dev/hdc1 say?
[12:09] <cratel1> does any one know about SATA 150 and dimond maxtor hard disk
[12:09] <folki> Can anybody say me how can I change keyboard in Ubuntu (in Win it is Shift+Alt)
[12:09] <synapsis_> theblue: newest
[12:09] <phoghawk> tyrael_tc, for me there was an option to change your keyboard setup
[12:09] <theblue> synapsis_: So Breezy Badger?
[12:09] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: im the icon guy...
[12:09] <LaLO> /dev/hdc1 /lalo 0 0
[12:09] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: lol
[12:09] <daminap> phoghawk it says some stuff about locks not being able to unlock
[12:09] <maddash> Lalo: you did it wrong
[12:09] <phoghawk> foki, there's a applet for that
[12:10] <chrisx1> im running Hedgehog 1
[12:10] <synapsis_> theblue: no idea
[12:10] <phoghawk> daminap, you may have synaptic open
[12:10] <synapsis_> theblue: how can i tell
[12:10] <daminap> phoghawk should i be in root
[12:10] <theblue> synapsis_: Ok, are you in X now?
[12:10] <phoghawk> daminap, you can't have synaptic open when you apt-get. it's one or the other
[12:10] <daminap> oh yea i do hehe
[12:10] <theblue> synapsis_: Or the graphical part?
[12:10] <synapsis_> theblue: gui
[12:10] <theblue> synapsis_: Ok, that's X.
[12:10] <cratel1> any one familiar with SATA device
[12:10] <LaLO> ok wait
[12:10] <phoghawk> sorry tyrael_tc, lol. The only time I've successfully changed it was in Hoary, they may have changed it now.
[12:10] <sara_> hjello
[12:10] <NoUse> chrisx1 you may want to upgrade to breezy, the USB mounting got better with the upgrade
[12:10] <phoghawk> tyrael_tc, let me look for it
[12:10] <mcphail> Does anyone have the link to the howto for installing 32bit apps (chroot) in the amd64 version?
[12:10] <sara_> i mean to say hello
[12:11] <folki> How can I change keyboard in Ubuntu, please?
[12:11] <bur[n] er> anyone out there use evolution with an exchange server successfully?
[12:11] <maddash> Lalo, the correct syntax is "/dev/hdc1   /lalo   ext3   defaults    0    0"
[12:11] <theblue> synapsis_: What I need you to do is hit Ctrl-Alt-F1, and it should tell you there.  Hit Alt-F7 to get back.
[12:11] <crimsun> folki: System> Preferences> Keyboard
[12:11] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: much appriciated
[12:11] <chrisx1> they send disks out for that?
[12:11] <chrisx1> or do i have to download?
[12:11] <kinkoblast> Does ubuntu not handle accented chars in file names?
[12:11] <NoUse> chrisx1 yeah
[12:11] <phoghawk> ubuntu people are so kind
[12:11] <theblue> phoghawk: That's our goal.
[12:11] <sara_> can anyone help me with an alsa sound problem?
[12:11] <chrisx1> kk
[12:11] <chrisx1> ill oreder some
[12:11] <chrisx1> *Order
[12:12] <djk_> kinkoblast: i'd assume that depends on your settings...
[12:12] <theblue> phoghawk: Much better than those call centers.
[12:12] <LaLO> ok
[12:12] <kinkoblast> djk_: hmm. on my friends computer, we were having trouble copying parts of the Animal Crossing sound track.
[12:12] <daminap> ok thanks phoghawk! =-)
[12:12] <LaLO> the error message is: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc5,
[12:12] <LaLO>  missing codepage or other error
[12:12] <LaLO>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[12:13] <folki> Is there any shortcut for change keyboard?
[12:13] <LaLO> dmesg | tail  or so
[12:13] <kinkoblast> djk_: A couple of K.K. Slider's songs have e' s and n~ s
[12:13] <maddash> Lalo, try again, except replace "ext3" in "/dev/hdc1   /lalo   ext3   defaults    0    0" with the correct filesystem (try "fat32" or "ntfs" or "ext2", etc)
[12:13] <NoUse> LaLO remember when we asked you to not paste?
[12:13] <maddash> LaLO: use the pastebin
[12:13] <LaLO> ok sorry
[12:14] <maddash> !tell LaLO about pastebin
[12:14] <phoghawk> folki, there is a GNOME panel applet I think. Right click on one of the panels and click: "Add to panel"
[12:14] <djk_> kinkoblast: check your locale if it supports it.
[12:14] <folki> I am a new user of Ubuntu (third day)...Is there some good manual or help or tutorial or something else which can help me with first steps?
[12:14] <NoUse> http://help.ubuntu.com
[12:15] <theblue> folki: The Wiki is useful: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[12:15] <maddash> LaLO: sorry, but I don't know how to find out the filesystem format of a partition other than through qtparted, which I don't assume you have
[12:15] <tyrael_tc> how do i register on freenode?
[12:15] <bur[n] er> tyrael_tc: /msg ns
[12:15] <maddash> LaLO: let me know if you got it working
[12:15] <kent> Noaires, folki the help.ubuntu.com is the same help as in System->help  (right?)
[12:15] <bur[n] er> tyrael_tc: actually.. /msg nickserv help
[12:15] <phoghawk> tyrael_tc, I couldn't seem to find it either. I would post something in the forums and then wait. I'm sure someone has felt the need to mod the upper left corner of their screen
[12:15] <sara_> i cant get my asla sound working with my via motherboard, for some reason with every alsa package installed i cant get alsaconf to run
[12:16] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: its just so red. ot contrasts badly with my blueish theme
[12:16] <blueyed> LaLO: "sudo fdisk -l /dev/.." will list the partitions.
[12:16] <LaLO> it dont work
[12:16] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: thx
[12:16] <folki> thanks
[12:16] <phoghawk> tyrael_tc, that makes sense
[12:16] <d-snp> :'(
[12:16] <phoghawk> folki, did you find it?
[12:16] <d-snp> it's so late and still nothing works
[12:16] <maddash> blueyed: I told him about fdisk already
[12:16] <LaLO> as ext3 and as ext2 it doesnt word
[12:16] <maddash> blueyed: the problem is we don't know the FS of the partition
[12:16] <LaLO> the command fdisk -l says I have a linux FS
[12:17] <phoghawk> How old are most of you guys?
[12:17] <phoghawk> or gals
[12:17] <theblue> 12.
[12:17] <maddash> LaLO: try "reiserfs"
[12:17] <veloct> should be ext2
[12:17] <phoghawk> theblue: impressive ;)
[12:17] <d-snp> 18, linux age: 3 days
[12:17] <LaLO> what ?
[12:17] <blueyed> LaLO: what's the Id before "Linux" in fdisk -l?
[12:17] <synapsis_> theblue: press alt-ctr-f1 left me in a prompt, i had no idea how to get back
[12:17] <theblue> linux age: 5 years.
[12:17] <theblue> synapsis_: Yes.
[12:18] <LaLO> 83
[12:18] <theblue> synapsis_: alt-f7 gets you back.
[12:18] <d-snp> :|
[12:18] <LaLO> id = 83
[12:18] <synapsis_> linux age: 2 days
[12:18] <folki> yes, I found it
[12:18] <theblue> synapsis_: What did the prompt say?
[12:18] <synapsis_> theblue: it said breezy
[12:18] <folki> is there help how to install software too?
[12:18] <d-snp> linux kills my inner child
[12:18] <theblue> synapsis_: Ok.
[12:18] <blueyed> LaLO: this is ext3 with me. But I'm not sure if ext2 has another Id. Probably not. Why is it important?
[12:18] <veloct> that's ext3 i think
[12:18] <synapsis_> d-snp: i'm right there wiht you buddy
[12:18] <phoghawk> theblue, since you were seven? wow. Props to you, my friend
[12:18] <theblue> folki: Type sudo aptitude at a command prompt.
[12:18] <veloct> ext2 is 82
[12:18] <theblue> phoghawk: Thanks.
[12:19] <Niomi> hi all. i have extra buttons on my mouse, how can i program them to do stuff?
[12:19] <maddash> veloct, blueyed: ext2/ext3 didn't work, read his messages
[12:19] <synapsis_> theblue: what were we trying to figure out before that?  i can't even remember why i went to find out
[12:19] <phoghawk> folki, help for installing software where?
[12:19] <blueyed> maddash: I've just entered.
[12:19] <folki> I need some help
[12:19] <theblue> synapsis_: Ok, one last time, try plugging your USB drive directly into the back of your computer.
[12:19] <folki> some manual
[12:19] <maddash> Lalo, did "reiserfs" work?
[12:19] <veloct> maddash: i realize that but 83 is ext3
[12:19] <theblue> ?
[12:19] <synapsis_> theblue: oh right the usb =)
[12:20] <maddash> blueyed, sans you then.
[12:20] <synapsis_> theblue: ok i'll plug it in again
[12:20] <LaLO> command not found
[12:20] <LaLO> says
[12:20] <maddash> veloct: true.
[12:20] <phoghawk> Niomi, it can be a pain in the but. If I remembered the file that allowed you do do this, I'd tell you. I remember that theres an article in the Ubuntu wiki about that. http://www.wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:20] <synapsis_> theblue: k plugged in
[12:20] <synapsis_> oh
[12:20] <synapsis_> it found it this time
[12:20] <theblue> synapsis_: There we go.
[12:20] <d-snp> can't I just kill my firewall, it keeps saying I'm under attack
[12:20] <veloct> LaLO: try "sudo cfdisk" without the quotes, that should tell you
[12:20] <theblue> synapsis_: Need anything else?
[12:21] <synapsis_> theblue: yes, i would like to make a mp3 directory, but i'm unsure where to place it
[12:21] <d-snp> from ip's that are obviously the people I want to download from :(
[12:21] <theblue> synapsis_: In your home folder.
[12:21] <synapsis_> theblue: i don't want it off of my desktop or home directory, since i want my brother to beable to find it easily.
[12:21] <veloct> synapsis_ : just create a folder in your home folder
[12:21] <folki> i.e if I download some soft (extension .tar or .gz) what I should do if I want to install it?
[12:21] <theblue> synapsis_: Not sure.
[12:21] <LaLO> says error : cfdisk cant be open press enter to exit
[12:22] <gnomefreak> .tars have to be compiled right?
[12:22] <phoghawk> synapsis_, if you have an external HD, I'd put it there.
[12:22] <maddash> LaLO: did you use sudo?
[12:22] <synapsis_> phoghawk: unfortunately i don't have that option anymore, my last drive died
[12:22] <LaLO> yes
[12:22] <nalioth> gnomefreak: the things in them usually do, yes
[12:22] <ktogias_> folki, if it is source you unzipp it and read the README or INSTALL file...
[12:22] <synapsis_> would it be wise to put it in the / directory?
[12:22] <Niomi> phoghawk: i'll check it out, thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[12:22] <LaLO> ups
[12:22] <phoghawk> folki: you would untar it first, but after that there are many scenarios. I would reccomend using synaptic unless you absolutely can't for some reason
[12:22] <LaLO> error : the unit device cant be open
[12:22] <maddash> LaLO: what other programs are running? maybe they're accessing the HD at the moment...
[12:22] <LaLO> says
[12:23] <LaLO> press enter to exit
[12:23] <gnomefreak> Naliioth: ty
[12:23] <LaLO> onlu the irc
[12:23] <LaLO> only irc
[12:23] <fdr> synapsis_ : no, because for a number of reasons the root filesystem should be as small as possible
[12:23] <dell500> how do you get file transfer to work in gaim if you're behind a router?
[12:23] <veloct> hmmm, only should say that if you didn't use sudo
[12:23] <folki> phoghawk if I download some soft how can I install it?
[12:23] <sara_> i need sound help  wah wah
[12:23] <phoghawk> dell500, I've had troubles with this too, esp. with AIM. I've not found a solution
[12:24] <synapsis_> fdr: ok nice, i'm just gunna stick to throwing it into my home directory
[12:24] <phoghawk> sara_, that won't get you anywhere. Try asking a question
[12:24] <darksoul> doom3, can it run on ubuntu without wine or anything?
[12:24] <dell500> phoghawk, that sucks  :(
[12:24] <sara_> pho i did but i didnt want to get pushy
[12:24] <fdr> synapsis_ : if you feel like reading some docs, the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard should tell you where to put it
[12:24] <maddash> sara_: what's the problem?
[12:24] <veloct> darksoul: only if you buy the linux version, if there's one
[12:24] <phoghawk> darksoul, yes. Use a program called Cedega. I don't believe it's free however
[12:24] <tyrael_tc> sara_ indeed ask away
[12:25] <synapsis_> fdr: k thanks
[12:25] <sara_> i have all the alsa packages installed and pnptools but i cant get my sound working in ubuntu  (via motherboard)
[12:25] <maddash> Lalo: what's the message when you tried "ext3" ?
[12:25] <darksoul> phoghawk: i thought it came with built in support for linux..
[12:25] <veloct> Cedega is not free
[12:25] <d-snp> it is
[12:25] <d-snp> you can just download the source and compile it
[12:25] <tyrael_tc> sara_ does the alsa bind to the card?
[12:25] <fdr> synapsis_: you're welcome
[12:25] <LaLO> the same message for all FS
[12:25] <synapsis_> another question, after installing amarok, i've tried to run a mp3 that i just moved from my usb, and theres an error: "Totem could not startup"
[12:25] <darksoul> d-snap: and were would i get the source?
[12:26] <LaLO> wrong fs type :S
[12:26] <phoghawk> darksoul, I'm not quite sure then. I think that just means that it has the ability to run under Cedega
[12:26] <d-snp> ehh dunno, cedega.sourceforge.net I suppose
[12:26] <sara_> alsaconf wont run , it seems its corrupted
[12:26] <NoUse> d-snp you don't get some of the software that trasgaming licenses to put in cedega if you do that
[12:26] <LaLO> bad superblock on /dev/hdc5
[12:26] <d-snp> oh
[12:26] <maddash> Lalo, ok, same thing for ext2?
[12:26] <sara_> i i thought alsaconf was part of alsa-base or alsa-utils but it didnt install properly
[12:26] <LaLO> yes
[12:26] <kl1> hi
[12:26] <darksoul> phoghawk: why cant they just make a game that will work on both windows AND linux?
[12:26] <kl1> where can i paste some code?
[12:27] <d-snp> because of directx
[12:27] <maddash> Lalo, ok go to system>>administration>>disks
[12:27] <phoghawk> darksoul, because... coding is different. and directx
[12:27] <phoghawk> darksoul, too many reasons to name off
[12:27] <tyrael_tc> darksoul cus they are a$$wipes
[12:27] <maddash> Lalo, click on the "partition" tab
[12:27] <darksoul> phoghawk: hell they wouldent be losing any customers..they would be gaining... and i know the code is diffrant....but you could make two versions of the game
[12:27] <NoUse> darksoul some people do, like Id software
[12:27] <phoghawk> tyrael_tc, no, iD software is actually very linux friendly
[12:27] <maddash> Lalo, what's the filesystem of the partition?
[12:28] <phoghawk> darksoul, but that would taek more time and more money
[12:28] <darksoul> NoUse: really? what games do they make
[12:28] <tyrael_tc> phoghawk: thats one comapany
[12:28] <NoUse> darksoul Doom 3, Quake 4
[12:28] <phoghawk> darksoul, Quake and Doom
[12:28] <SirKillalot> are there programs which allow to unmount end eject the disc when the user presses the button on the cdrom drive?
[12:28] <darksoul> phoghawk: so? they would get like 20mill more customers
[12:28] <tyrael_tc> the Unreal tournament series installs on Linux
[12:28] <phoghawk> darksoul, nearly all of the older Quake games are available free on the iD software ftp site
[12:28] <darksoul> NoUse: k
[12:28] <mordrec> where can i get  the w32codecs for ubuntu?
[12:28] <darksoul> phoghawk: were would i download that?
[12:28] <NoUse> !w32codecs
[12:28] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/
[12:28] <mordrec> thanks
[12:28] <tyrael_tc> moredrec: good question
[12:28] <maddash> !w32codecs
[12:29] <veloct> darksoul:  go to this site: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom/
[12:29] <darksoul> !quake
[12:29] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, darksoul
[12:29] <darksoul> veloct: thanks
[12:29] <maddash> !argh
[12:29] <ubotu> maddash: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:29] <SirKillalot> are there programs which allow to unmount end eject the disc when the user presses the button on the cdrom drive?
[12:29] <maddash> !inappreciative
[12:29] <ubotu> maddash: Are you smoking crack?
[12:29] <veloct> darksoul: np :)
[12:30] <maddash> SirKillalot: good question, i'd like to know too
[12:30] <Hobbsee> SirKillalot: eject?  it should work by default
[12:31] <Morpheous> Where is the list of  repositories for apt-get stored?
[12:31] <LaLO> i didnt see partition on device manager :S
[12:31] <SirKillalot> nope, I mean pressing on the hardwarebutton
[12:31] <German> hello
[12:31] <Hobbsee> Morpheous: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:31] <Morpheous> Thanks
[12:31] <Hobbsee> SirKillalot: exactly, works on a lot of machines, check that the package "eject" is installed
[12:31] <German> can anyone help me with Tomboy
[12:31] <tyrael_tc> who ever said helping others with linux was right
[12:31] <SirKillalot> The program should see that the user pressed the button, try to unmount, if it doesnt work, it should unmount by force and eject
[12:31] <tyrael_tc> *linux is fun was right*
[12:31] <phoghawk> Sorry to anyone I'm leaving hanging, but I gotsta go watch the KANSAS JAYHAWKS. WOOOT. Peace
[12:32] <SirKillalot> Hobbsee, I mean the damn hardwarebutton, on your case!
[12:32] <dr_willis> the idea of 'it should unmount by force' is sort of scary
[12:32] <maddash> lalo, huh? there's a tab on the right column that says "Properties", and one that says, "Partitions"
[12:33] <tyrael_tc> SirKillalot: so was he occasionally it doesnt work but it usually does
[12:33] <Nihil85> hallo!
[12:33] <fmasi> how do i install icons thems from gnome look
[12:33] <maddash> lalo, are you in "Disks Manager" app?
[12:33] <Nihil85> can anyone give me the name of a good wireless lan software'
[12:33] <gnomefreak> gnome look?? you mean art.gnome.com?
[12:34] <fmasi> I mean http://www.gnome-look.org
[12:35] <tyrael_tc> fmasi: generally you need to install each part seperate.
[12:35] <tyrael_tc> fmasi: I had too
[12:35] <gnomefreak> sorry thought it was only kde-look and xfce-look
[12:35] <Nihil85> HALLO! can anyone give me the name of a good wireless lan software'
[12:35] <Esotericisms> cna ubuntu be install on a mac computer?
[12:35] <Esotericisms> installed*
[12:35] <Rubin> how do i change the defaulte console keyboard map (to dvorak)
[12:36] <Rubin> whats the tool the installer runs to set that up?
[12:36] <fmasi> And how do i instal the icons ?
[12:36] <antisocial_boris> does anyone know of a good equation writing program i can run with hoary?
[12:36] <Nihil85> HALLO! can anyone give me the name of a good wireless lan software'
[12:36] <Rubin> antisocial_boris: openoffice2 has one, if you upgrade to breezy
[12:37] <samasama> Hey, I
[12:37] <antisocial_boris> i dont really want to upgrade atm
[12:37] <sadrul> someone can please tell me where i can get libsilc? (breezy)
[12:37] <samasama> errr I'm new to ubuntu and any debian based system for that matter... I can't figure out where all the modules are getting loaded
[12:37] <fletch33> Nihil85,  i just thought i would tell u that u r not going to get anywhere here like that
[12:37] <Hobbsee> !info libsilc
[12:37] <synapsis_> question, how do i keep my client logged on, and have another client log on, and then after the 2nd client is done, return to the first?
[12:37] <ubotu> libsilc: (SILC library (silc-toolkit)), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-4 (breezy), Packaged size: 376 kB, Installed size: 888 kB
[12:38] <petrigi> hi, can someone help me, I was using http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/ for synaptic and it seems no more accessible
[12:38] <samasama> synapsis_: screen maybe
[12:38] <Nihil85> fletch33, what do you mean?
[12:38] <LaLO> fs is ext2
[12:38] <German> anyone can help me with tomboy please
[12:38] <synapsis_> samasama: meh i guess its not a big deal
[12:38] <KaoticEvil> anyone ever successfully get an Argus pencam working on ubuntu?
[12:38] <synapsis_> bbl
[12:39] <LaLO> maddash FS is ext2
[12:39] <fletch33> Nihil85, if you scream and keep repeating i have found that the people that know wont answer u. doesnt matter to me but i thought i would mention it
[12:39] <chrisx1> does any1 have any idea why mplayer is taking ages to make install?
[12:39] <maddash> Lalo: then use ext2 iin your fstab
[12:39] <Nihil85> fletch33, i have not screamed
[12:39] <LaLO> yes
[12:40] <maddash> lalo: and then "sudo mount /dev/hdc1"
[12:40] <tyrael_tc> chrisx1: dude just install in Synaptic
[12:40] <chrisx1> kk
[12:40] <tyrael_tc> thats what i did works perfectly
[12:40] <fletch33> using capital letters is screaming
[12:40] <LaLO> I cant :(
[12:40] <Nihil85> fletch33, i keep repeating my request because in this channel a lot of people are entering, so maybe the one who is new, can help me
[12:40] <fletch33> Nihil85,  using caps = screaming
[12:40] <Orborde> What's a good Scheme interpreter?
[12:41] <fletch33> Nihil85, sorry dude i was just trying to help
[12:41] <LaLO> EXT2-fs: hdc5: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4).
[12:41] <fletch33> Nihil85,  didnt mean anything by it
[12:41] <gnomefreak> Nihil85, please dont ask one right after another there are 605 ppl in here so please be pateint
[12:41] <sadrul> Hobbsee: thanx a lot :)
[12:42] <Hobbsee> sadrul: no problems
[12:42] <KaoticEvil> hey Hobbsee :)
[12:42] <Hobbsee> hey KaoticEvil :)
[12:42] <samasama> How do I get a full list of services that are set to run at boot?
[12:42] <Nihil85> fletch33, gnomefreak, excuse me if i yelled "hello" and if i asked three times a question
[12:42] <maddash> lalo, in fstab, try "0   2" instead of "0 0"
[12:42] <Nihil85> i will be more patient
[12:43] <gnomefreak> Nihil85, ok what was your question and ty
[12:43] <LaLO> ok, but it doesnt work again
[12:43] <Nihil85> gnomefreak, i cannot connect in a wireless lan my 2 pc (both are using ubuntu breezy)
[12:44] <maddash> lalo, wat's the msg?
[12:44] <Nihil85> gnomefreak, i guess that maybe i need a sofwtare more configurable than kwifimanager
[12:44] <LaLO> the same message wrong fs type
[12:44] <LaLO> :S
[12:44] <LaLO> but the fs is correct
[12:44] <gnomefreak> Nihil85, im not much help on wireless i havent tried to set it up
[12:45] <Nihil85> gnomefreak, thanks however
[12:45] <blackvd> say whats the plugin for k3b to make it automatically convert mp3,ogg,etc to wav when burning?
[12:45] <samasama> How do I get a full list of services that are set to run at boot?
[12:45] <NoUse> blackvd it should already do ogg, for mp3 install k3b-mp3
[12:45] <Nihil85> gnomefreak, i've tried on #wireless but i didn't receive any answer for the name of a good software
[12:46] <kinkoblast> Blackvd: But don't make more mp3s. use ogg.
[12:46] <blackvd> think i did, let me check
[12:46] <gnomefreak> Nihil85, have you tried to search on ubuntu wiki?
[12:46] <user01> what should i do if i just installed ubuntu for the first time and it froze at "stqrting hotplug subsystem"?
[12:46] <blackvd> i do
[12:46] <Nihil85> gnomefreak, i've tried every wiki, every how-to, every everything
[12:46] <maddash> lalo, you should double check that you selected the right DRIVE and PARTITION under Disks Manager
[12:47] <blackvd> yeah i have k3b-mp3 installed
[12:47] <blackvd> does it work for ogg too
[12:47] <bur[n] er> blackvd: apt-cache search k3b
[12:48] <darrochfamily> my HP deskjet printer won't work in breezy but it works in Knoppix 3.7, could I just copy knoppix's configuration files across or would that stuff things up?
[12:48] <LaLO> i can install linux over this partition and keep my files ??
[12:48] <superbeast> how can i uninstall ubuntu and grub w/o deleting my windows partition
[12:48] <petrigi> does someone know a plf ressource for ubuntu ?
[12:48] <NoUse> blackvd ogg should already be installed
[12:49] <tyrael_tc> g'night all
[12:49] <samasama> How do I get a full list of services that are set to run at boot?
[12:49] <LaLO> im too bored for this problem
[12:49] <LaLO> i can install linux over this partition and keep my files ??
[12:49] <Chris_Tucker> anyone know an easy way to add new fonts to wine?
[12:49] <Sionide> LaLO, "this partition" has windows on?
[12:49] <maddash> Lalo if by 'linux' you mean 'ubuntu', then sure, why not?
[12:50] <LaLO> no i have windows in other HD
[12:50] <maddash> lalo though i don't understand why you would need to mount the partition just to install an OS
[12:50] <gnomefreak> what is breezy badger +1?
[12:50] <blackvd> ok so in the track listings it shows them as mp3, will in convert them when burning?
[12:50] <LaLO> but i have movies and music on linux
[12:50] <NoUse> blackvd if you told it to burn an audio CD yes
[12:50] <LaLO> i i dont want lost it
[12:50] <blackvd> cool thanks
[12:50] <harshrealm> hello!
[12:50] <samasama> How do I find out what services are set to start up at boot?
[12:50] <maddash> Lalo, installing any OS would delete your files
[12:51] <darrochfamily> my HP deskjet printer won't work in Kububtu breezy but it works in Knoppix 3.7, could I just copy knoppix's configuration files across or would that stuff things up?
[12:51] <thrush-working> samasama: ls /etc/init.d/
[12:51] <sadrul> !info silc-toolkit
[12:51] <maddash> lalo, what OS did you previously use the partitions containing th efiles with?
[12:51] <samasama> thrush-working: any file in there that's executable?
[12:51] <LaLO> I cant install ubuntu over this ubuntu partition ??
[12:52] <Rubin> lalo: its best to delete the partition and reformat it
[12:52] <LaLO> i have linux at one HD and in other Hd i have Winxp
[12:52] <Rubin> lalo: so wipe the linux one
[12:53] <maddash> lalo, are you using ubuntu now?
[12:53] <LaLO> yes
[12:53] <jerome71> Hello
[12:53] <LaLO> the live cd
[12:53] <samasama> thrush-working: any file in there that's executable will be executed on boot?
[12:53] <LaLO> because my ubuntu fail
[12:53] <jerome71> I need somme help abour diswrapper, can you help me please ;-)
[12:53] <maddash> LALO go ahead and install ubuntu on top of your existing ubuntu partition
[12:54] <user01> hmmm i think it is the sound blaster audigy 2 pci card taht did it
[12:54] <a8514> Hi
[12:54] <user01> sorry i mean pcmia
[12:54] <fmasi> Is ther enny whay that i can make the whidows border transparent so it will be like windows vista
[12:54] <LaLO> my files wouldnt be removed ??
[12:54] <fmasi> i like to make genome look exacly like windosw vista
[12:54] <user01> i popped it out and it seems to be working noz
[12:54] <samasama> I'm also trying to figure out where all these modules are being loaded from (e.g., sony_acpi ??? ), I just installed and am not familar with a debian based system and am trying to do some post-install cleaning
[12:54] <a8514> I have a little problems with PHP5... it doesn't work... It's installed but it doesn't work
[12:54] <LaLO> i dont want lost my files
[12:55] <a8514> can anybody help me?
[12:55] <LaLO> I ask if i can...
[12:55] <fmasi> i nead to make gnome like vista for pepole of my univercity
[12:55] <maddash> lalo are your files on the same partition as ubuntu's?
[12:55] <LaLO> yes
[12:55] <NoUse> !tell a8514 about php
[12:55] <wickedpuppy> fmasi, you need vista .... not gnome
[12:55] <fmasi> i hate vista
[12:55] <fmasi> but some pepole at univercity like it
[12:55] <a8514> NoUse, I installes Apache2 and PHP5, bue
[12:55] <maddash> lalo, what's wrong with the existing ubuntu installation?
[12:56] <a8514> but, PHP doesn't interpret the php file
[12:56] <fmasi> so i like to make the icones and the border like vista
[12:56] <gnomefreak> whats wrong with the way gnome looks?
[12:56] <fmasi> i love it gnomefreak but some frind whats me to put like vista
[12:56] <NoUse> a8514 did you install the apache plugin for php?
[12:56] <fmasi> just the glass sistem
[12:57] <LaLO> I put some files.c by error in /etc/modprob.d while i was seeing the steps of one manual
[12:57] <fmasi> i ges ther is awhay to make the borders translucid no ?
[12:57] <a8514> I supose...
[12:57] <a8514> Just a second...
[12:57] <wickedpuppy> fmasi, if you use ubuntu and tell people its vista ... its cheating on the linux ... don't ya think?
[12:57] <LaLO> and when i restart the ubuntu doesnt work
[12:57] <gnomefreak> ive never seen vista but im sure its not much different from xp but way off base for linux
[12:57] <German>  can't install tomboy --- help me please
[12:57] <fmasi> i do i not gona do that they just like the glass look things have
[12:58] <Nihil85> hallo! i cannot access my shared folder. the window chrashes. what's the problem? how can i fix it?
[12:58] <vallera> hello i am kind of a noob can some one help me when i try to open my hdd an error message appears "The folder contents could not be displayed. You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hdb1". "
[12:58] <fmasi> i have a copy at home its just xp whith skins
[12:58] <samasama> I'm also trying to figure out where all these modules are being loaded from (e.g., sony_acpi ??? ), I just installed and am not familar with a debian based system and am trying to do some post-install cleaning
[12:58] <fmasi> its a shit
[12:58] <fmasi> ubuntu is mutch bether
[12:58] <a8514> NoUse, "$ sudo aptitude install php5"   <-- this??
[12:58] <fmasi> just like to figure out how to make the border lok like glassy
[12:58] <darksoul> wtf
[12:58] <darksoul> can somone tell me wtf is wrong
[12:59] <kbrooks> darkheart: with
[12:59] <kbrooks> darksoul: with?
[12:59] <wickedpuppy> fmasi, give those who like vista , windows vista ... give the rest ubuntu .. see how long they can stand it
[12:59] <darksoul> my sound works on gnome..but its all messed up, like it has fuzz in it
[12:59] <kbrooks> darksoul: define "wtf is wrong"
[12:59] <kbrooks> darksoul: what is your problem?
[12:59] <darksoul> i know its prob just a new driver needed
[12:59] <NoUse> a8514 have you looked at the link ubotu sent you?
[12:59] <kbrooks> darksoul:
[12:59] <kbrooks> darksoul: what is your problem!!!!!!
[12:59] <fmasi> ok but is ther a way to make the border translucid or some thing like it i curios now about that
[12:59] <darksoul> nothing its just fuzzy, the sound, i can hear it but its like a radio with barly any reseption..
[12:59] <wickedpuppy> ....
[01:00] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:00] <a8514> Sorry?
[01:00] <wickedpuppy> kbrooks, he just said his problem
[01:00] <darksoul> i just want to know what i need to download to update on board sound cards...
[01:00] <vallera> hello i am kind of a noob can some one help me when i try to open my hdd an error message appears "The folder contents could not be displayed. You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hdb1". " please help me .
[01:00] <kbrooks> darksoul: uh no
[01:00] <kbrooks> darksoul: its not that
[01:00] <darksoul> kbrooks: then what is it?
[01:00] <thrush> vallera: this is a windows partition?
[01:00] <NoUse> !tell a8514 about php
[01:01] <kbrooks> its your sound settings
[01:01] <maddash> lalo, the steps I gave you should have worked
[01:01] <NoUse> a8514 that walks you through how to install and configure PHP
[01:01] <vallera> so there is no way that i can view the contents
[01:01] <kbrooks> darksoul: right click on the gnome menu in a empty area
[01:01] <kbrooks> add applet
[01:01] <maalox> Is anyone aware of a way to disable device-mapper?
[01:01] <thrush> vallera: yes u can
[01:01] <kbrooks> find the gnome volumee applet and add it
[01:01] <maddash> vallera: what partition?
[01:01] <darksoul> its allredy added
[01:01] <vallera> thrush so there is no way to view its content
[01:01] <LaLO> yes i think that
[01:01] <darksoul> so how does that help?
[01:01] <UnIData> hi, i doownload horde3 how run ?
[01:01] <vallera> maddash hdb1
[01:02] <darksoul> lol
[01:02] <maddash> vallera: where is it mounted?
[01:02] <LaLO> by i dont know whats the problem
[01:02] <fmasi> if enny one know how to make widows border translucid pleas pvt me
[01:02] <a8514> mm
[01:02] <kbrooks> darksoul: did you increase the volume
[01:02] <maddash> maddash: open up a terminal, type in "cd /media"
[01:02] <kbrooks> all up the way to the top
[01:02] <darksoul> kbrooks: yes. i increased it..the pc speakers all the way up to
[01:02] <maddash> vallera: open up a terminal, type in "cd /media"
[01:02] <vallera> maddash not sure there is an icon on my desktop labeled hdb1
[01:02] <LaLO> I only want now if its possible reinstall linux at the same partiton and dont lost my files...........
[01:03] <samasama> I'm also trying to figure out where all these modules are being loaded from (e.g., sony_acpi ??? ), I just installed and am not familar with a debian based system and am trying to do some post-install cleaning and just need some direction : )
[01:03] <maddash> vallera: then type in "ls" --- is hdb1 listed?
[01:03] <maddash> lalo - it is possible for windows to access an ext2/ext3 partition
[01:03] <vallera> maddash yes it is listed
[01:03] <LaLO> yes
[01:03] <LaLO> next week
[01:03] <LaLO> xDD
[01:04] <LaLO> because i have an old screen that not support my windows resolution
[01:04] <vallera> maddash i also see my usb drive which is not on the desktop can i make an icon for it
[01:04] <LaLO> :(
[01:04] <UnIData> hi, i download horde3 how run ?
[01:04] <UnIData> please help
[01:04] <samasama> Hi, I'm trying to figure out where all these modules are being loaded from (e.g., sony_acpi ??? ), I just installed and am not familar with a debian based system and am trying to do some post-install cleaning and just need some direction : )
[01:04] <YUSETH> HOLA QUIERO PLATICAR
[01:04] <maddash> lalo, fire up windows, http://www.fs-driver.org/  , install it, and backup your data
[01:04] <gnomefreak> UnIData, try typing horde3 in terminal
[01:04] <darksoul> yea its like when you turn up the pc speakers to loud and it starts fuzzing..but this is a stario.. and i have never had this problem on windows..so it must be somthing
[01:05] <maalox> Is anyone aware of a way to disable "device-mapper"?
[01:05] <maddash> vallera: here's what to do: type in this command:
[01:05] <darksoul> then again...on windows my base didint work thisgood
[01:05] <vallera> maddash ok where ?
[01:05] <maddash> vallera: "chmod a+rwx hdb1"
[01:06] <maddash> vallera: that should do the trick
[01:06] <wickedpuppy> samasama, if you wanna know what modules are loaded its same for all nix
[01:06] <UnIData> gnomefreak: http://localhost/horde3 ??
[01:06] <maddash> lalo, is that a viable solution?
[01:06] <darksoul> nvm the entire problem looks like the damn gnome sounds
[01:06] <darksoul> like gaim
[01:06] <gnomefreak> UnIData,  you said its downloaded already right?
[01:06] <samasama> wickedpuppy:  Yeah, not listing, i need to see where in the boot process they're being loaded
[01:06] <vallera> maddash here is the message "chmod: cannot access `hdb1': No such file or directory"
[01:06] <darksoul> my music mostly plays fine so meh..
[01:06] <samasama> wickedpuppy: So I can stop them from being loaded
[01:07] <harshrealm> the following problem were found on you system:
[01:07] <thrush> vallera: to mount a windows partition: sudo mount -o umask=0000 /dev/hdb1 /media/whatever
[01:07] <LaLO> yes
[01:07] <BenC> samasama: hotplug
[01:07] <LaLO> thanks
[01:07] <BenC> see /etc/hotplug
[01:07] <harshrealm> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:07] <harshrealm> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:07] <harshrealm> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:07] <harshrealm> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:07] <harshrealm> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:07] <harshrealm> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:07] <wickedpuppy> samasama, not listing ? what you type to see the list ?
[01:07] <LaLO> i think it colud be work
[01:07] <harshrealm> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:07] <LaLO> :P
[01:07] <harshrealm> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:07] <wickedpuppy> !ops
[01:07] <maddash> vallera: "chmod a+rwx /media/hdb1"
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[01:07] <UnIData> gnomefreak: Yes from repositories
[01:07] <gnomefreak> someone plz boot his ass
[01:07] <harshrealm> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:07] <harshrealm> help?
[01:07] <BenC> samasama: but there's really no reason to not load them, they don't really do much if they aren't being used
[01:07] <NoUse> harshrealm read the /topic! don't paste in here
[01:08] <vallera> maddash ok i changed the directory now it is working
[01:08] <maddash> lalo: you're welcome
[01:08] <LaLO> i think that will work ok
[01:08] <LaLO> thanks
[01:08] <gnomefreak> harshrealm,  doing that will get you no help
[01:08] <UnIData> gnomefreak: Yes  from respo
[01:08] <LaLO> :P
[01:08] <samasama> BenC: I'm all about minimalization and security, it's not a good habbit to load modules that you don't need IMHO
[01:08] <maddash> vallera: you should be able to write into hdb1 - can you?
[01:08] <gnomefreak> UnIData, what happens when you type hoard3 in terminal
[01:08] <vallera> maddash no the same error
[01:09] <harshrealm> i would like to apologise for my ignorance. i will not do it again
[01:09] <maddash> vallera: can you open hdb1?
[01:09] <LaLO> bye all
[01:09] <NoUse> harshrealm try running apt-get update
[01:09] <nalioth> harshrealm: please do not. the /topic is an integral part of any irc channel. it imparts information pertinent to the channel
[01:09] <gnomefreak> harshrealm,  paste your sources list in pastebina nd give us link to it
[01:09] <gimmulf> maybe a little bit offtopic but is "Best Trusted Provider Since 2003" a correct english sentence? :)
[01:10] <gimmulf> best trusted feels a little bit wierd
[01:10] <thrush> gimmulf: maybe most instead of best
[01:10] <dr_willis> Unless theres some sort of "best trusted award"
[01:10] <UnIData> in firefox i type http://localhost/horde3 and see: The requested URL /horde3/ was not found on this server.
[01:10] <bimberi> gimmulf: unless "Trusted" is some sort of product
[01:10] <vallera> maddash no i cant open it it gives me the same error "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hdb1". "
[01:10] <dr_willis> but its all sounds like buzzword hype to me. :P
[01:10] <gimmulf> hmm ok thanks :)
[01:11] <Yod_> #ubuntu-br
[01:11] <gnomefreak> UnIData, open a terminal and type hoard3
[01:11] <vallera> thrush thnx i tried the command but still doesnt work
[01:11] <BenC> samasama: I'm all for that too, but in a real desktop system, you're going to have things you don't need, because that's the only way to make the system usable for most people
[01:11] <thrush> vallera: u will have to sudo umount /media/hab1 first then run command
[01:11] <gnomefreak> UnIData,  im assuming since you just downloaded it you havent configured it yet
[01:11] <samasama> BenC: Well this system is just for me
[01:11] <samasama> so
[01:11] <thrush> hab1 = whatever
[01:11] <maddash> vallera: ok, in the terminal, type, "cd /media" followed bt "ls -lg" and paste your output into the pastebin, then give me the link
[01:11] <BenC> samasama: nothing wrong with reducing things as you see fit though, hint, look for the blacklist, and put modules in there you don't want
[01:12] <BenC> samasama: I don't mean multiuser, I mean a distribution that will run for different machines :)
[01:12] <samasama> BenC: Oh yeah... Just wish there was an easier way of managing things like this, this is why I didn't like debian : )
[01:12] <vallera> maddash here "lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     6 2005-11-15 02:55 cdrom -> cdrom0
[01:12] <vallera> drwxr-xr-x   2 root    48 2005-11-15 02:55 cdrom0
[01:12] <vallera> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     7 2005-11-15 02:55 floppy -> floppy0
[01:12] <vallera> drwxr-xr-x   2 root    48 2005-11-15 02:55 floppy0
[01:12] <vallera> dr-x------   1 root 40960 2005-11-14 16:55 hdb1
[01:12] <vallera> drwxr-xr-x  25 root 16384 1970-01-01 02:00 hdb5
[01:12] <vallera> drwxr-xr-x   2 root    48 2005-11-15 02:55 sda1
[01:12] <vallera> drwxr-xr-x   2 root    48 2005-11-15 02:55 sda5
[01:12] <cafuego> !paste
[01:12] <ubotu> methinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:12] <vallera> drwxr-xr-x   2 root    48 2005-11-15 02:55 sda6
[01:12] <vallera> drwxr-xr-x   2 root    48 2005-11-15 02:55 sdb1
[01:12] <BenC> samasama: some things like the sony module are hard loaded (since they can't be detected), so that may be harder
[01:12] <vallera> "
[01:12] <cafuego> vallera: Stop spamming
[01:13] <thrush> vallera: your about to get yelled at :)
[01:13] <maddash> !tell vallera about pastebin
[01:13] <vallera> sorry
[01:13] <maddash> vallera: don't worry, everyone does it once
[01:13] <bimberi> unless the see someone else do it first
[01:13] <bimberi> *they
[01:13] <maddash> vallera: type, "chmod a+rwx /media/hdb1"
[01:13] <benplaut> anyone here know anything about LDAP? trying to hook up my laptop as an LDAP client to the school server
[01:13] <cafuego> Yes, it's a mistake you make only once, one way or the other ;-)
[01:14] <BenC> samasama: but even unloading modules isn't going to do a whole lot for you, since there's lots compiled into the kernel aswell....if you're that hardcore, you might just want to roll your own kernel
[01:14] <nalioth> vallera: everyone does it once. please read the /topic
[01:14] <maddash> cafuego, vallera, nalioth: I meant, "at least once". heh.
[01:14] <BenC> benplaut: what kind of client?
[01:14] <_smd_> hhhhhhhhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuif oli.0-[o0o0l-p0-
[01:14] <_smd_> .0-./
[01:14] <BenC> benplaut: do you mean for authentication/authorization?
[01:15] <samasama> BenC: Well of course I'm going to do that... What about services? How I manage service? Is it anything in /etc/init.d  that is +x will be run at boot?
[01:15] <benplaut> BenC: anything... i don't know where to begin
[01:15] <cafuego> maddash: Well, that's not technically true either.
[01:15] <vallera> maddash still the same error
[01:15] <BenC> samasama: services are in /etc/rc?.d/ (man update-rc.d)
[01:15] <samasama> ugh : P
[01:15] <maddash> vallera: are you sure the previous command I gave you worked out fine?
[01:15] <cafuego> maddash: Normally you'd go "Hmm, would people mind if I pasted 20 klines of shit? - probably not, let me ask first"
[01:15] <samasama> I hate that system
[01:15] <BenC> benplaut: that's like asking "I need to setup my machine to be a SQL client"
[01:16] <gnomefreak> ill bbl
[01:16] <maddash> cafuego: true. but that was more like 400 bytes.
[01:16] <vallera> here is the output after running the command "chmod: changing permissions of `/media/hdb1': Read-only file system"
[01:16] <BenC> benplaut: apt-cache search openldap
[01:16] <BenC> go from there
[01:16] <benplaut> BenC: ldap-utils... i've installed it
[01:16] <cafuego> vallera: What filesystem type is hdb1?
[01:16] <BenC> vallera: what are you trying to do?
[01:17] <maddash> vallera: oops. sorry. here's what I meant: "sudo chmod a+rwx /media/hdb1"
[01:17] <BenC> benplaut: openldap-utils?
[01:17] <maddash> vallera: what's the output on that one?
[01:17] <benplaut> BenC: "ldap-utils - OpenLDAP utilities
[01:17] <benplaut> "
[01:17] <BenC> ok, nm
[01:17] <_smd_> sorry: my son got a hold of my computer while out of my room
[01:17] <BenC> benplaut: then you're ready...what else do you want to do?
[01:17] <vallera> maddash "chmod: changing permissions of `/media/hdb1': Read-only file system"
[01:17] <cafuego> vallera: Is it NTFS?
[01:18] <maddash> vallera: to check if it is NTFS, type in "sudo fdisk -l"
[01:18] <benplaut> BenC: well... what do i do now? IE, is there a script to set it up, a config file to edit...
[01:18] <BenC> if it's ntfs, just mount it with uid=XXX where XXX is your user id
[01:18] <vallera> maddash yes NTFS
[01:18] <BenC> benplaut: that depends completely on what you are using ldap for
[01:18] <cafuego> Mind you, it will still be read-only, but your user account will be able to read it.
[01:19] <maddash> vallera: oooh....I don't thiink linux supports ntfs writing...but you'd still be able to read it:
[01:19] <BenC> benplaut: ldap is as simple as "do this", it's all dependent on the data being stored there and how it's being used
[01:19] <benplaut> BenC: i think it's meant to be setup in a way that the computer is acting, pretty much as a thin client
[01:19] <cafuego> maddash: It does, but it *will* destroy data.
[01:19] <maddash> vallera: "sudo chmod a+rx /media/hdb1"
[01:19] <vallera> maddash but i cant even view the contents
[01:19] <maddash> vallera: try the above
[01:19] <thrush> vallera: sudo umount /media/hdb1
[01:19] <BenC> benplaut: umm...ldap doesn't do anything like that
[01:19] <BenC> benplaut: it can store usernames and passwords
[01:20] <cafuego> vallera: You need to mount the partition with the correct mount options.
[01:20] <vallera> madash "chmod: changing permissions of `/media/hdb1': Read-only file system"
[01:20] <maddash> cafuego: dude, wtf? have some common sense
[01:20] <benplaut> BenC: okey dokey... i guess i'll have to get something else out of the netadmin :P
[01:20] <cafuego> maddash: I know the problem and the solution. chmod in any form is not it.
[01:20] <cafuego> vallera: Type 'id' in a shell.
[01:20] <maddash> cafuego: quite the contrary. look at her permissions under ls.
[01:20] <BenC> vallera: sudo umount /dev/hdb1; sudo mount -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1
[01:20] <cafuego> maddash: Yes.
[01:21] <cafuego> maddash: Like I said,  I know the problem and the solution. chmod in any form is not it.
[01:21] <BenC> benplaut: using ldap for auth, means you will need lots of stuff like PAM modules and PAM configuration
[01:21] <BenC> it's a pain
[01:21] <maddash> vallera, cafuego: cafuego seems to think he knows what he's talking about, so he'll help you now
[01:21] <cafuego> maddash: 1) chmod doesn't work ona  read-only fs. 2) NTFS doesn't support linux file perms.
[01:21] <vallera> whci command should i run
[01:21] <BenC> vallera: use the one I showed you
[01:22] <cafuego> vallera: Running 'id' will give you a line starting with 'uid=...'
[01:22] <BenC> it will mount the filesystem so the files/dirs are owned by you
[01:22] <vallera> ok worked
[01:22] <cafuego> vallera: if you uid is 1000, run the command benc gave you: 'sudo mount -t ntfs -o ui=1000 /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1'
[01:23] <vallera> thank you all
[01:23] <cafuego> vallera: That will mount the filesystem read-only, with the default owner being your user account.
[01:23] <vallera> cafuego Ok
[01:24] <cafuego> vallera: You can automate that process by adding the correct info to /etc/fstab
[01:24] <thrush> i would think breezy could automount this stuff for the user by now..
[01:24] <capiCrimm> Anyone know how to get back files deleted with rm.
[01:24] <n0odl3> where is the xorg.conf file?
[01:24] <BenC> vallera: you wont be able to modify anything on that fs, since write support for ntfs is disabled (dangerous)
[01:24] <cafuego> capiCrimm: moun tthe partition in question read-only IMMEDIATELY.
[01:24] <BenC> n0odl: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:24] <n0odl3> thx
[01:24] <capiCrimm> cafuego, how?
[01:24] <darksoul> yea i tried running the doom3 demo..then this shit happens http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4548 my best bet is i need new drivers for my 3d card... my 3d card is a Xtasy 9600SE 128MB 8X AGP graphics by ATI
[01:24] <vallera> BenC ok thats fine for me
[01:25] <vallera> cafuego i ll do that i will add the command
[01:25] <cafuego> capiCrimm: http://www.billjonas.com/papers/undeletion.html
[01:25] <darksoul> any ideas people?
[01:26] <synapsis_> hello again =)
[01:26] <darksoul> yea i tried running the doom3 demo..then this shit happens http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4548 my best bet is i need new drivers for my 3d card... my 3d card is a Xtasy 9600SE 128MB 8X AGP graphics by ATI
[01:26] <synapsis_> question, there's 18 new updates available, do i want to download these?
[01:26] <erisco> hello, i was wondering if anyone could identify my problem with limewire. i correctly followed the guide, but when i try to run limewire, nothing happens. any ideas?
[01:26] <cafuego> capiCrimm: if the files were on the root filesystem, their data has probably already been overwrittenin which case you cannot retrieve it.
[01:26] <darksoul> yea i tried running the doom3 demo..then this shit happens http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4548 my best bet is i need new drivers for my 3d card... my 3d card is a Xtasy 9600SE 128MB 8X AGP graphics by ATI
[01:26] <NoUse> !tell darksoul about ati
[01:26] <darksoul> thanks
[01:27] <cafuego> vallera: You cna edit /etc/fstab as root (cia sudo) using any text editor.
[01:27] <lightbright> i just installed 5.10 Ubuntu and it never created or asked me to create a root account and access!  How can I do this?
[01:27] <NoUse> !tell lightbright about root
[01:27] <cafuego> vallera: You need to add a line like: "/dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ntfs ro,uid=1000 0 0" - that will automount it at bootup.
[01:27] <capiCrimm> cafuego, where do I find what partition I'm on currently?
[01:27] <cafuego> capiCrimm: Where were the files you deleted?
[01:28] <capiCrimm> cafuego, you mean the folder? in /var
[01:28] <lightbright> NoUse: root is disabled!  Thats a critial error and mistake!  because my mouse doesnt work so I need to edit the text file /X11/ and I CANT because I have no root access :(
[01:28] <capiCrimm> I only have one partition for the whole machine, though
[01:28] <cafuego> capiCrimm: Ok. does 'df' list a seperate /var partition?
[01:28] <thrush> lightbright: sudo -i for root terminal
[01:28] <lightbright> how can I tell Ubuntu to use my serial mouse if I dont have root access?
[01:28] <LathropWells> cafuego - have you tried "testdisk" for partition recovery? http://www.cgsecurity.org/testdisk.html
[01:28] <thrush> or sudo command
[01:29] <jake37> lightbright do the keyboard work?
[01:29] <mauro> f
[01:29] <cafuego> capiCrimm: Then there is probably not much point trying to grab any of it. Which files or dirs did you delete?
[01:29] <lightbright> thrush: when I did that it asked me for a password
[01:29] <cafuego> LathropWells: Nope, i have no need.
[01:29] <lightbright> jake37: yes
[01:29] <thrush> lightbright: that is your user pass
[01:29] <bimberi> lightbright: your password
[01:29] <vallera> cafuego the  "ro,uid=1000" is under the options column right
[01:29] <mauro> ;
[01:29] <cafuego> vallera: correc
[01:29] <lightbright> thrush: I can get root access by typing  sudo -i  and then entering my user password?
[01:29] <vallera> cafuego :)
[01:29] <Knowerrors> wine: error while loading shared libraries: libwine.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:30] <blackhat> http://pastebin.com/429776, I use XDVDShrink and I get this error when I am trying to rip a dvd to an iso.
[01:30] <Knowerrors> Hey all, when installing wine cvs I get that
[01:30] <lightbright> bimberi:  I can get root access by typing  sudo -i  and then entering my user password?
[01:30] <bimberi> lightbright: yes...
[01:30] <Knowerrors> Know how to fix it?
[01:30] <lightbright> bimberi: ah ok well thats good
[01:30] <lightbright> bimberi:  whats the command to set up my mouse to use serial mouse?
[01:30] <thrush> lightbright: or just sudo 'whatever' to run something once gedit or vi etc
[01:30] <synapsis_> question, there's 18 new updates available, do i want to download these?
[01:30] <bimberi> lightbright: better to use it for individual commands (eg. sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf) - the less you're in a root shell the better
[01:31] <cafuego> LathropWells: In this case, downloading and installing testdisk would ovwerwrite the newly free inodes, destroying more of them...
[01:31] <LathropWells> cafuego - that doesn't sound like very much fun..
[01:31] <capiCrimm> cafuego, I forgot I moved them to a usb stick first. I screwed up and used mv instead of cp. The line for the usb stick is...
[01:31] <bimberi> lightbright: probably that command i gave an example, then change the device in the mouse section to /dev/ttyS0 (for COM1)
[01:31] <lightbright> bimberi: well it woulnt allow me to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf cause it needed root access
[01:31] <capiCrimm> \/dev/sdb1                63584      2158     61426   4% /mnt/usb_stick_1
[01:31] <bimberi> lightbright: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:32] <cafuego> LathropWells: No, inappropriate sue of 'rm' never is ;-)
[01:32] <lightbright> bimberi: dont I need to add the "i" ?  like sudo -i gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:32] <LathropWells> cafuego - ;)
[01:32] <cafuego> capiCrimm: Then you cna probably just copy them back from the usb stick.
[01:32] <thrush> lightbright: just sudo -i gives a root term
[01:32] <bimberi> lightbright: no, sudo -i gets you a root shell
[01:32] <lightbright> bimberi: whats the difference?
[01:33] <bimberi> lightbright: actually use nano instead of gedit, you don't have a mouse of course (D'Oh)
[01:33] <synapsis_> what is a mp3 download client?
[01:33] <lightbright> thrush: why doesnt ubuntu come with KDE?
[01:33] <thrush> lightbright: thats kubuntu if u want it type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-deskto
[01:33] <lightbright> bimberi: I can use keyboard to open file and scroll down using gedit
[01:33] <bimberi> lightbright: sudo <command> runs the command as root, sudo -i puts you into a root login shell and all commands from then are in the root shell
[01:33] <jake37> lightbright...you need kubuntu for that
[01:33] <thrush> lightbright: kubuntu-desktop*
[01:33] <LathropWells> lightbright KDE is available yhough apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[01:33] <n0odl3> im trying to configure my xorg.conf and i need a little help
[01:34] <capiCrimm> cafuego, I mean I used mv on accident, screwed up on the copy and rmed them, tried to cp them again and realized they weren't there.
[01:34] <bimberi> lightbright: probably, but nano is probably easier to use in cli
[01:34] <n0odl3> im reading a thread by MetalMusicAddict about setting up a MousePen tablet
[01:34] <lightbright> ok!  do you guys prefer gnome over KDE?  if so, why?
[01:34] <bimberi> lightbright: gawd, don't ask that! :P
[01:34] <jake37> 	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
[01:34] <jake37> 	Driver		"mouse"
[01:34] <jake37> 	Option		"CorePointer"
[01:34] <jake37> 	Option		"Device"		"/dev/ttyS0"
[01:34] <jake37> 	Option		"Protocol"		"Microsoft"
[01:34] <n0odl3> and it says he added a section under "InputDevice" under the "Configured Mouse"
[01:34] <lightbright> thrush: did you mean apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[01:34] <n0odl3> what does he mean?
[01:34] <thrush> lightbright: omg kde like totally sucks ;)
[01:35] <capiCrimm> cafuego, what would I use for the name of the partition in the moun command? /mnt/usb_stick_1 ?
[01:35] <thrush> yes but sudo in front
[01:35] <jake37> lightbright did you get that pm?
[01:35] <n0odl3> there is a section called "InputDevice" and it deals with a mouse
[01:35] <lightbright> thrush: so whenever I want to install something, I need to place sudo in front?  eg. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[01:35] <anto9us> n0odl3, make sure you backup first with cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[01:35] <LathropWells> lightbright - GNOME is lighter faster uglier. - i don't need no stinkin' pretty desktop... - lol
[01:35] <synapsis_> anyone have an idea for a mp3 download client?
[01:35] <bur[n] er> is there a "dapper" channel for those users out there to converse?
[01:35] <lightbright> jake37: what pm?
[01:35] <bimberi> jake37: no, we all saw it :/
[01:35] <n0odl3> anto9us
[01:35] <anto9us> n0odl3, that is the section it means, yes
[01:35] <jake37> lol...okay
[01:35] <n0odl3> anto9us: ok but how would i access the backup?
[01:35] <thrush> lightbright: whenever u need to do something that would normally reqire root
[01:36] <LathropWells> GNOME is still very customisable
[01:36] <jake37> my chat command is rusty
[01:36] <lightbright> thrush: so add sudo in front and it will ask for my regular password?
[01:36] <anto9us> n0odl3, in case you mess your xorg.conf up you can copy it back
[01:36] <blackhat> http://pastebin.com/429776, I use XDVDShrink and I get this error when I am trying to rip a dvd to an iso.
[01:36] <thrush> lightbright: yes
[01:36] <bimberi> lightbright: yes
[01:36] <lightbright> ok cool :)
[01:36] <lightbright> I got my 5 ubuntu CDs today in the mail!  wow, its nice of them to send free CDs
[01:36] <LathropWells> ubotu tell lightbright about sudo
[01:37] <sheppardslegion> ordered mine today... using the Live now
[01:37] <lightbright> Am I going to now get sent a bill for those 5 CD's or some type of marketing marterial trying to sell me something?
[01:37] <thrush> lightbright: seems a little odd at first but i prefer sudo now it will remeber your pass for like 15min so u dont have to keep typing it
[01:37] <jake37> lightbright > I have only used kde before...but gnome is much more refined and uncluttered
[01:37] <lightbright> thrush: and that seems safer as I dont spend time as root, yes?
[01:37] <bimberi> lightbright: no
[01:37] <LathropWells> lightbright - shed your windows thiking - free i s free. - no bills
[01:37] <thrush> lightbright: yep :)
[01:38] <n0odl3> alright brb
[01:39] <psycho> hi
[01:39] <jake37> lightbright> i had same prob with mouse...but managed to find solution in like ten minutes on web...lots of help in forums...and even weblogs that people keep
[01:39] <LathropWells> should we tell  him - religious missionaries are going to visit him for a conversion? - lol - (that is a joke.)
[01:39] <bimberi> lightbright: no, was referring to "marketing material"
[01:39] <bimberi> :)
[01:39] <psycho> who now about ftp
[01:39] <psycho> i want to put a file into a remote terminal
[01:39] <thrush> psycho: youre trying to install an ftp server?
[01:39] <psycho> help me please
[01:40] <bimberi> psycho: what problem are you having?
[01:40] <lightbright> so I add  Option  "Device"  "/dev/ttyS0"  into the /etc/X11/xorg.conf to get my serial mouse to work?
[01:40] <anto9us> psycho, you can use Places | Connect to Server
[01:40] <psycho> i want to put a file into a remote terminal
[01:40] <thrush> psycho: unless u really want ftp install openssh-server and then use sftp much more secure
[01:40] <jake37> light bright...yes....and delte any entries like option if it is a basic mouse
[01:41] <josh__> how does one enable ftp?
[01:41] <psycho> yes
[01:41] <anto9us> josh__, server or client?
[01:42] <jake37> lightbright > btw, you can open the xorg file and look at it first...but have to sudo gedit in order to make and save changes
[01:42] <josh__> server
[01:42] <psycho> vsftpd
[01:42] <psycho> vsftpd
[01:42] <lightbright> jake37: I delete anything with "Options" ?
[01:42] <anto9us> josh__, ssh is better :)
[01:42] <jake37> lightbright > the option in the mouse section yes
[01:42] <psycho> help me plz
[01:42] <thrush> psycho: thats what I use but I keep it pretty locked down
[01:42] <josh__> i just want to know how to enable ftp not ssh just ftp
[01:42] <lightbright> jake37: isnt there a mouseconfig command that will do this for me?
[01:42] <anto9us> josh__, ftpd
[01:43] <thrush> psycho: either sudo apt-get install openssh-server or sudo apt-get install vsftpd
[01:43] <jake37> lightbright> scroll back up and use what I pasted  as an example
[01:43] <josh__> is there a step by step that i could follow?
[01:43] <psycho> vsftpd
[01:43] <jake37> lightbright...config a mouse that does nto initialize or even get recognized is not benificail
[01:44] <Astxist> could someone please help me out, I can't get network settings to remember my phone number it never saves it?
[01:44] <NickolasName> I can't get ipw2200 to load on my laptop (it's got an internal 80211 card, i updated drivers & firmware & 80211 framework and it still doesn't see the card at all).  when i try and 'modprobe ipw2200' i get errors.  can provide more details.  can anyone help?
[01:44] <psycho> i want to put a file into a remote terminal
[01:44] <josh__> so if you type vsftpd into a terminal it says command not fout
[01:44] <josh__> found
[01:44] <lightbright> jake37  Driver  "mouse"
[01:44] <lightbright> jake37  Option  "CorePointer"
[01:44] <lightbright> jake37  Option  "Device"  "/dev/ttyS0"
[01:44] <lightbright> jake37  Option  "Protocol"  "Microsoft"
[01:44] <anto9us> josh__, sudo apt-get install vsftpd
[01:44] <lightbright> jake37: so delete all those that says Options?
[01:44] <thrush> vsftpd is a server app and needs to be installed first
[01:45] <jake37> lightbright> after you make and save changes pres ctrl+alt+backspace to restart x and mouse should work
[01:45] <sheppardslegion> what is the super user password on the Live version
[01:45] <psycho> vsftpd its installed
[01:45] <jake37> lightbright...yes...all options in the mouse section
[01:45] <lightbright> jake37 lightbright...config a mouse that does nto initialize or even get recognized is not benificail <-- lol, it is for people whos mouse doesnt work :P
[01:45] <josh__> it can't find the package
[01:45] <bimberi> lightbright: no, just the "Device" bit - what you (naughtily) pasted looks good
[01:46] <sheppardslegion> su password?
[01:46] <bimberi> sheppardslegion: there is none, use sudo
[01:46] <lightbright> jake37: If I delete all those Options, how will it know to use my mouse on "Device"  "/dev/ttyS0" ???
[01:46] <Nihil85> hallo! i cannot access my shared folder. the window chrashes. what's the problem? how can i fix it?
[01:46] <sheppardslegion> tnks
[01:46] <bimberi> sheppardslegion: sudo -i if you want a root shell
[01:46] <bimberi> sheppardslegion: np :)
[01:46] <anto9us> josh__, it's in the main repository, try again after sudo apt-get update
[01:47] <lightbright> bimberi: If I delete the part:  Option  "Device"  "/dev/ttyS0"  how will it know to use my mouse on   "/dev/ttyS0" ?
[01:47] <josh__> still can't find it
[01:47] <jake37> lightbright > the options i have left in the mouse section are : corepointer, device andprotocol...just leave those
[01:48] <sheppardslegion> great thanks bimb..
[01:48] <jake37> make protocol "Microsoft"
[01:48] <lightbright> jake37: ok but I thought you said to delete them all :P
[01:48] <lightbright> ok
[01:48] <ryanpg> join #bots-ubuntu
[01:48] <josh__> is there a repository that i could add to get more updates
[01:48] <ryanpg> doh
[01:48] <ryanpg> :)
[01:48] <erisco> how can i play a .mid?
[01:48] <jake37> lightbright> sorry...was thinking options like axis thingy and such...lol
[01:49] <ryanpg> ubotu, bot abuse?
[01:49] <ubotu> somebody said bot abuse was a bannable offense
[01:49] <bimberi> lightbright: sorry, confusing you aren't I/we, you will need that line
[01:49] <lightbright> bimberi: ok
[01:49] <anto9us> josh__, it's definitely in the main section the package is called vsftpd
[01:49] <ryanpg> gosh darn it... where can I play with the bots?
[01:49] <erisco> no support for .mid?
[01:49] <lightbright> next question I have is.. :)  How can I now get ubuntu to dial out using my modem to the Internet?
[01:50] <jake37> dial up?
[01:50] <mustard5> lightbright, what type of modem you got?
[01:50] <lightbright> jake37: yes
[01:50] <steigweis> what does the &U parameter mean at the end of the "gimp %U" command?
[01:50] <josh__> the update manager says that i have all the updates but i can't get some packages like these i'm just wondering if there was a repository that i was missing
[01:50] <lightbright> mustard5: external 56k
[01:50] <steigweis> i dont know what U does
[01:50] <oofnik> hey folks i'm back.. um yeah compiling still locks up my system to those who were here earlier
[01:50] <ryanpg> ubotu, ubuntu bots
[01:50] <ubotu> ryanpg: Are you smoking crack?
[01:50] <lightbright> jake37: yes dial up, how can I dial out to my ISP?
[01:50] <mustard5> lightbright, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[01:51] <lightbright> why didnt they add a dial out like Mepis did for example?
[01:51] <jake37> lightbright> not sure...been awhile since I had to config a modem
[01:51] <lightbright> I thought Ubuntu was supposed to be easy like Ms windows :P  mepis seems easier
[01:51] <mustard5> lightbright, once you are online, you can get gnome-ppp from the repositories
[01:51] <lightbright> mustard5: catch 22
[01:51] <oofnik> anyone here have experience with both ubuntu and gentoo?
[01:51] <foxgamer> Hi all.
[01:52] <oofnik> i'm trying to decide between upgrading to breezy or switching to gentoo
[01:52] <jake37> lightbright> wouldn't they have gnome-ppp on the cd?
[01:52] <mustard5> lightbright, before getting online you have command line to get online with dialup
[01:52] <lightbright> mustard5: i need gnome-ppp to dial out and I need to dial out to get gnome-ppp :P  catch 22!  thats limited thinking from the Ubuntu developers :(
[01:52] <lightbright> jake37: doesnt seem that way
[01:52] <foxgamer> In a never ending quest to get my ati card working on ubuntu64, I am one step closer. Is there someone with technical knowledge that would be able to help me progress? TIA
[01:52] <mustard5> lightbright, see link above that I showed you..
[01:52] <lightbright> mustard5: whats command line?
[01:52] <bob2> oofnik: way simpler if you just ask your question
[01:52] <bimberi> lightbright: did you try System -> Administration -> Networking ?
[01:52] <mustard5> lightbright, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[01:53] <lightbright> bimberi: yeah looked around there too
[01:53] <bob2> foxgamer: by "working" do you mean "using binary only drivers"?
[01:53] <lightbright> mustard5: ok brb
[01:53] <mustard5> lightbright, its as easy as pie to  do
[01:53] <thrush> lightbright: type sudo network-admin or do what bimberi said
[01:53] <jake37> lightbright...when you get mouse working you will be able to navigate desktop and use synaptic to update and install gnome-ppp if it is there
[01:53] <n0odl3> help! i messed up my xorg.conf file! i backed it up but how do i access it?
[01:53] <lightbright> ok
[01:53] <anto9us> steigweis, it's a variable, I think to indicate the filename if you drag a file onto the gimp icon
[01:53] <oofnik> bob2 no real question really, i just want to hear any experiences people might have with both
[01:53] <oofnik> if they reccomend ubuntu over gentoo or vice versa
[01:53] <bob2> oofnik: you will waste far less time with ubuntu
[01:54] <steigweis> anto9us: aha, interesting, ty
[01:54] <foxgamer> bob2: It works (as I'm using it now) but setting it up using the ati drivers. I have got a step closer in the fact that I can now have a higher res. with better frame rate, but the fps haven't changed.
[01:54] <bob2> oofnik: if all you want to do i sfuck around, use gentoo
[01:54] <n0odl3> how can i access my backup file?
[01:54] <bob2> oofnik: if you actually do useful work, debian or ubuntu
[01:54] <oofnik> bob2 that's what i'm thinking
[01:54] <bob2> foxgamer: where "fps" = ?
[01:54] <n0odl3> i backed it up as /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[01:54] <oofnik> gentoo is for people who like to mess with stuff.. heh
[01:54] <n0odl3> i tried to vi it but it doesnt show up
[01:54] <n0odl3> please help!
[01:54] <oofnik> i like a system that works
[01:54] <jeanluc> hey where can I get quake for linux ?
[01:54] <harshrealm> hello the link for my pasting is: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4549
[01:54] <foxgamer> fps on the 64bit version I have are around 15. on 32bit version they are around 115
[01:55] <oofnik> ok next question, should i upgrade to breezy from hoary or wipe my system and back stuff up then upgrade?
[01:55] <harshrealm> (my sources.list
[01:55] <n0odl3> please help me
[01:55] <cyphase> how do you allow a computer to access a webmin server on another box?
[01:55] <harshrealm> ssh
[01:55] <bob2> foxgamer: which is of no use
[01:55] <bob2> foxgamer: are you using the same program to measure this?
[01:55] <bob2> jeanluc: install it with synaptic
[01:56] <cyphase> harshrealm, besides that
[01:56] <oofnik> n0odl3 look around in the directory
[01:56] <oofnik> maybe you saved it somewhere else
[01:56] <foxgamer> bob2: I have been comparing it with the atunnel screensaver.
[01:56] <n0odl3> can someone help me? i dont know how to access my xorg.conf backup
[01:56] <n0odl3> i cant boot into gnome!
[01:56] <StDellis> I'm looking for a program for linux that works like Maple for windows? Can someone help me please!
[01:56] <n0odl3> im in the shell help!
[01:56] <oofnik> ok n0odl3 chill
[01:56] <bob2> StDellis: maple
[01:56] <harshrealm> i do not know (i am not qualified to answer your question, & should not have)
[01:56] <oofnik> cd /etc/X11
[01:56] <bob2> StDellis: emacs calc is useful for symbolic stuff, too
[01:56] <jeanluc> bob2 is there quake 3? or is it only 2?
[01:57] <bob2> jeanluc: ...you can check
[01:57] <anto9us> n0odl3, cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:57] <StDellis> where can I download maple for linux?
[01:57] <bob2> afaik no one has package quake3 yet
[01:57] <n0odl3> anto9us: this will fix it?
[01:57] <jeanluc> ya I installed the quake 2 data packadge, now how do I run it?
[01:57] <anto9us> n0odl3, if you ran the command I told you earlier which was the reverse of that, yes
[01:58] <bob2> StDellis: the mapl company sells it
[01:58] <anto9us> n0odl3, needs sudo
[01:58] <n0odl3> anto9us: ok ill do that
[01:58] <n0odl3> anto9us: thanx... uhh how do i exit out of irssi?
[01:58] <fletch33> anyone here using azureus
[01:58] <fletch33> mine makes my internet stopworking and it wont mximize size
[01:59] <thrush> n0odl3: /quit
[01:59] <steigweis> CONFUSED: when i run gimp with "LANGUAGE=de_DE gimp" from console it starts correctly.. BBUT when i add the "LANGUAGE=de_DE gimp" line to the command field in the gnome application menu, there comes an error, that gimp could noct be found.. why?
[01:59] <anto9us> n0odl3, type /quit
[02:00] <n0odl3> k thnx
[02:00] <LathropWells> +
[02:00] <harshrealm> hello i need help, i pasted my sources.list @ http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4549 , but do not know why i can not get...
[02:00] <foxgamer> bob2, The glxgears does not produce any fps details for me to look at
[02:00] <bob2> foxgamer: yes, that's deliberate
[02:00] <bob2> foxgamer: all you care about is if glxinfo says you have direct rendering or not
[02:01] <steigweis> harshrealm: the mirrormax backportserver is down imho
[02:01] <bob2> harshrealm: get rid of everything mentioning 'backports'
[02:01] <mgcross> any enemy territory (linux) users out there..having some strange problems
[02:01] <harshrealm> i see
[02:01] <mgcross> help?
[02:01] <steigweis> harshrealm: you need another backportsource, if you need bp
[02:02] <capiCrimm> cafuego, debugfs is giving me "/dev/sdb1: Bad magic number in super-block while opening filesystem", any clue what to do?
[02:02] <lightbright> whats difference between sudo -s and sudo -i ?
[02:02] <bob2> the backport repoitores need a password
[02:02] <cyphase> has anyone else notices that Breezy is harder to set up as a server then Hoary?
[02:02] <cyphase> noticed*
[02:02] <steigweis> lightbright: man sudo
[02:02] <bob2> and it should be yesiwillnotaskforhelpbecauseiwon'tuseitunlessiknowhowitworks
[02:02] <bob2> cyphase: no
[02:02] <lightbright> steigweis: you have any ideas on top of your head?
[02:02] <cafuego> "I thought it was an incompatibility issue not a incapability issue."
[02:03] <bob2> haha
[02:03] <cafuego> - Mother in law
[02:03] <bob2> lightbright: one gives you a login shell, one does not
[02:03] <bob2> lightbright: man bash, InVOCATION section
[02:03] <lightbright> bob2: ok :)
[02:03] <mgcross> I know that ET is not a mission critical app, but I've looked for my own answers and can't find any
[02:03] <cyphase> bob2, do you use webmin?
[02:03] <xed2> yo brian baroeidan here ? (however its spelled)_
[02:03] <bob2> mgcross: then wait and perhaps someone will jump up
[02:03] <bob2> cyphase: haha no
[02:03] <lightbright> how can I get ubuntu to play DVD and VOB and Mpeg files?
[02:03] <foxgamer> bob2, I have just checked and I do not have direct rendering.
[02:04] <bob2> mgcross: better still would be asking your question already
[02:04] <bob2> lightbright: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:04] <synapsis_> does anyone here use gaim, and find that when sending files, that transfer rates are terribly low?
[02:04] <cyphase> bob2, do you use anything besides a text editor?
[02:04] <cyphase> lol
[02:04] <mgcross> bob2: I'll try to be patient ;-D
[02:04] <lightbright> does Ubuntu have access to every program thats available for Debian?
[02:04] <bob2> cyphase: yes
[02:04] <bob2> lightbright: no
[02:04] <bob2> lightbright: but mostly
[02:04] <mr-russ> anybody here use qmail with ubuntu?
[02:04] <xed2> synapsis, its the aim oscar protocol, it sucks and is slow
[02:04] <xed2> its normal
[02:04] <bob2> mr-russ: #qmail
[02:04] <cyphase> bob2, like..
[02:04] <xed2> or your client thats receiving could have terrible download
[02:04] <xed2> or!
[02:04] <synapsis_> xed2: i'm on the msn network though, odes that matter?
[02:04] <bob2> mr-russ: I'd strongly recommend against using it of you have to ask for help, tho
[02:04] <steigweis> CONFUSED: when i run gimp with "LANGUAGE=de_DE gimp" from console it starts correctly.. BBUT when i add the "LANGUAGE=de_DE gimp" line to the command field in the gnome application menu, there comes an error, that gimp could noct be found.. why?
[02:04] <lightbright> bob2: how can I get a listing of ALL apps etc available for install for Ubuntu 5.10?
[02:04] <mr-russ> bob2: they won't help me build qmail for debian/ubuntu will they?
[02:04] <xed2> just be leet and use irc
[02:05] <bob2> cyphase: like my shell, and my browser and...
[02:05] <xed2> synapsis:msn might be screwing with you, im not sure
[02:05] <cyphase> lol
[02:05] <bimberi> lightbright: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:05] <mr-russ> bob2: I know qmail inside out, it's just getting ubuntu to build the binaries.
[02:05] <xed2> anyhow, dcc send via irc is always the best
[02:05] <capiCrimm> debugfs is giving me "/dev/sdb1: Bad magic number in super-block while opening filesystem", any clue what to do?
[02:05] <synapsis_> xed2: can't be l33t, btu they have great connection speeds
[02:05] <bob2> mr-russ: quite possibly, but neither will here, probably
[02:05] <mgcross> bob2: k, I can play just fine, but when I try to start a listen server I get a signal 11
[02:05] <lightbright> bimberi: thaNKS
[02:05] <n0odl3> anto9us: it worked thank you
[02:05] <bob2> mr-russ: get qmail-src and read it's instructions?
[02:05] <xed2> again, im looking for brian B from SDHS  ?
[02:05] <mr-russ> oh well, just do some evil hacks and make it work.
[02:05] <bob2> xed2: this does not appear to have anything to do with ubuntu?
[02:05] <synapsis_> xed2: i recall using msn, and it said "experiencing slow download speeds?  check your firewall" however i don't know how to even do that
[02:05] <xed2> sorry
[02:05] <xed2>  he needs help with ubunutu
[02:05] <mgcross> bob2: I'd really like to be able to play with/against my son
[02:05] <anto9us> n0odl3, yw
[02:05] <xed2> but i dont know his nick in here
[02:06] <bob2> capiCrimm: sounds like disk failing
[02:06] <n0odl3> anto9us: im planning to try to get up tablet to work once again... do i have to xorg.conf.backup thing again
[02:06] <n0odl3> xed2: im brain B
[02:06] <xed2> there you are
[02:06] <oofnik> does anyone experience really bad memory leaks using gdesklets?
[02:06] <xed2> finally i almost got kicked
[02:06] <mr-russ> bob2: yes, but it doesn't create the groups before building the package, it does it in the postinst script, which is too late for qmail-src.  Needs to be done before the compile stage.
[02:06] <xed2>  anyhow synapsis, i dont think its the firewall, that usually means it plain out doesnt even connect/ send
[02:06] <oofnik> i can boot with 150MB memory used, not touch my system for 8 hours, come back and find 250MB used..
[02:06] <bob2> mr-russ: qmail depends on groups being preset on the system at *build* time?
[02:06] <oofnik> with nothing running
[02:06] <bob2> oofnik: do you really know what the output of 'free -m' means?
[02:06] <n0odl3> xed2: is taht you pelteki?
[02:07] <bob2> oofnik: ie you know about cache, right?
[02:07] <xed2> synapsis: but to check i would advise checking out the port forwarding site on how to access your gate way, alsso the firewall and see if you find any options in there
[02:07] <xed2> no
[02:07] <xed2> its freakin munjal
[02:07] <mr-russ> bob2: yes, if you know qmail, you that is does :)  on debain I've successfully built qmail out of the box, but not on ubuntu.
[02:07] <n0odl3> xed2:oh hey
[02:07] <xed2> use the pm window
[02:07] <bob2> wow, whack
[02:07] <lightbright> if I want to install firestarter, I type?  sudo apt-get install firestarter ?
[02:07] <n0odl3> xed:i fixed the problem... good thing i backuped my xorg
[02:08] <xed2> and besides, you;re in the ubuntu channel, yet on the msn network ? "synapsis .... ahaha
[02:08] <mustard5> lightbright, correct
[02:08] <xed2> oh sweet and smart move noodle
[02:08] <harshrealm> thank you for your help
[02:08] <n0odl3> xed:im on msn network?
[02:08] <xed2> noodle:still on irssi or chat ?
[02:08] <bob2> lightbright: yes, but there's little reason to install it on a desktop
[02:08] <xed2> not you noodle, synapsis
[02:08] <n0odl3> xed2:no im on xchat
[02:08] <xed2> ah  thought so
[02:08] <n0odl3> xed2: why dont you just switch to ubuntu today?
[02:08] <xed2> irssi is sweetness
[02:09] <xed2> eh, i got a huge APES final tommororw
[02:09] <xed2> and the physics final we both have on friday
[02:09] <lightbright> bob2: why?
[02:09] <bob2> steigweis: uh, pick one channel
[02:09] <n0odl3> xed2:cool but just let it install and let it go for now
[02:09] <synapsis_> xed2: thanks, where can i find the port forwarding site?
[02:09] <lightbright> mustard5: so everything same as Debian, but I just always add sudo in front?
[02:09] <bob2> lightbright: because there's no point?
[02:09] <n0odl3> xed2:theres not much you have to do to install it anyway
[02:09] <steigweis> bob2: hehe, got me
[02:09] <xed2> synapsis: google it, im not being mean, but when teaching some technology its always good to teach to learn, if you get my drigft
[02:09] <lightbright> mustard5: and to remove something?  sudo apt-get remove --purge foo ?
[02:10] <xed2> welll i know noodle, but we both have that huge physics final.... eh
[02:10] <lightbright> bob2: I need a firewall as I do a lot of netbanking and trading money etc etc
[02:10] <mustard5> lightbright, the --purge will remove config settings, its optional
[02:10] <lightbright> mustard5: yes but the rest is ok?
[02:10] <n0odl3> xed2: yeah... im studying for it too... and taht math thing tommorow
[02:10] <bob2> lightbright: no
[02:10] <mustard5> lightbright, yep
[02:10] <bob2> lightbright: that is not the case at all
[02:10] <lightbright> bob2: why?
[02:10] <bob2> and it's a shame windows has removed people's common sense
[02:10] <bob2> lightbright: what does a firewall do?
[02:10] <lightbright> bob2:  are you telling me i never need a firewall?
[02:10] <n0odl3> xed2: man what did i do wrong?
[02:10] <cyphase> anybody hear know anything about Ubuntu Server Dapper?
[02:11] <bob2> lightbright: not at all
[02:11] <xed2> the math is easy noodle, just remember the trig ratios for the 30 degree and 45 degree triangle and you're set
[02:11] <lightbright> bob2: it stops people sending me ICMP attacks too
[02:11] <bob2> cyphase: it'll be like breezy, but 6 months newer
[02:11] <cyphase> lol
[02:11] <bob2> lightbright: no, that's not the case at all
[02:11] <cyphase> i see..
[02:11] <bob2> cyphase: and supported for 5 years
[02:11] <cyphase> yea
[02:11] <lightbright> bob2: doesnt the firewall stop a hacker keylogging me?
[02:11] <cyphase> maybe i just forgot..
[02:11] <bob2> lightbright: no, not at all
[02:11] <n0odl3> can someone help me with setting up a pointer device tablet? here is the link that has the instructions im following: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151
[02:11] <bob2> lightbright: this is not windows
[02:11] <mr-russ> bob2: thanks for your help.  I little hacking and we are away :)
[02:11] <lightbright> bob2: and doesnt the firewall stop a hacker getting my passwords for my bank website etc?
[02:11] <cyphase> but i swear Breezy seems harder to set up as a server then hoary
[02:11] <n0odl3> help if your interested
[02:11] <bob2> lightbright: if someone has trojaned your system, you have already lost
[02:11] <foxgamer> join #ubuntuforums
[02:11] <bob2> lightbright: no, it doesn't do that either
[02:11] <bob2> cyphase: how?
[02:12] <bob2> cyphase: or are you just refering to webmin?
[02:12] <xed2> well im out for noodle, peace
[02:12] <bob2> lightbright: all it does is stop network packets
[02:12] <cyphase> ok, maybe i am
[02:12] <lightbright> bob2:  but wont the firewall stoip the person trojaned my system in the first place?
[02:12] <cyphase> :D
[02:12] <bob2> lightbright: which is of no use
[02:12] <bob2> lightbright: no
[02:12] <cyphase> i admit
[02:12] <lightbright> bob2:  do you run a firewall?
[02:12] <bob2> lightbright: how would they get in to begin with?
[02:12] <bob2> lightbright: not on my desktop
[02:12] <lightbright> bob2:  cant they get in through an open port that firewall closes?
[02:12] <cyphase> i guess i grew to reliant on webmin..
[02:12] <cyphase> shame on me :)
[02:12] <tristanmike> the only firewall i have is through my router
[02:13] <bob2> lightbright: no
[02:13] <lightbright> bob2: does it hurt if I run firestarter? :)
[02:13] <bob2> lightbright: this is not windows
[02:13] <n0odl3> can anyone help me with the thread? do i just copy and paste that code?
[02:13] <n0odl3> or where do i edit?
[02:13] <bob2> lightbright: ubuntu doesn't have anything listening on the network by default
[02:13] <bob2> lightbright: so there's nothing for anyone to try to attack
[02:13] <lightbright> bob2:  ok
[02:13] <bob2> lightbright: therefore no need for a firewall
[02:13] <markw> n0odl3: looking back a page, I'm not sure what your asking.
[02:13] <lightbright> bob2: ok but does it hurt if I run firestarter? :) heh
[02:13] <bob2> lightbright: it doesn't hurt except in that it's pointless and makes things more complicated
[02:13] <markw> ah, pointer device.
[02:13] <lightbright> bob2:  ok thanks for the learning
[02:14] <n0odl3> markw:do you see what i mean? do i just copy and paste that under the InputDevice thing?
[02:16] <markw> n0odl3: that's just an input device stanza out of xorg.conf or XF86Config-4
[02:16] <n0odl3> markw:so what does that entail exactly?
[02:16] <markw> do this.
[02:17] <lightbright> can gnome do everything KDE can?
[02:17] <n0odl3> markw:can you hold on to taht thought
[02:17] <markw> n0odl3: do this.    open a terminal, and type cat /dev/input/event4
[02:17] <n0odl3> markw:i have to go to an interview
[02:17] <n0odl3> markw: a job interveiw sorry about this
[02:17] <markw> then go to your pad and give it some scribbles and see if you get garbage from that command.
[02:17] <markw> n0odl3: hope it's not a linux admin position. :)
[02:17] <bob2> lightbright: probably
[02:19] <Inchabod> Is there a shockwave for ubuntu?
[02:19] <NoUse> Inchabod as in the browser plugin?
[02:19] <synapsis_> xed2: well i figured out something on my own.  gaim isn't true p2p when sending files over msn, because files are first sent to the msn server, then relayed to the other client
[02:19] <Inchabod> NoUse, Yeah
[02:19] <NoUse> Inchabod yeah
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[02:20] <xed2> yes
[02:20] <xed2> good poiint syanpsis
[02:20] <xed2> i didnt think about that
[02:20] <xed2> but yes that is true
[02:20] <Inchabod> NoUse, Shockwave not flash you know?
[02:20] <xed2> thats why you gotta go with irc =P
[02:20] <lightbright> how can I get Ubuntu to use my Video Card?
[02:20] <NoUse> Inchabod it's in synaptic
[02:21] <Inchabod> kk
[02:21] <bob2> lightbright: bee more specific
[02:21] <synapsis_> xed2: hahaha, man i honestly wish i could send everything through irc, it would be so much easier, but you know the nature of the net
[02:21] <xed2> well
[02:21] <xed2> freak
[02:21] <xed2> just tell any noob you come across
[02:21] <xed2>  to install mirc
[02:21] <xed2> and /server SERVER
[02:21] <Gorth> to anyone willing to help: my x-chat sound doesn't work at all?!
[02:21] <xed2> and /j #channel
[02:22] <GTroy> anyone know of a decent mp3 ripper?
[02:22] <xed2> they dont have to do anything else
[02:22] <synapsis_> xed2: thats too complex for these kids at university =)
[02:22] <xed2> ahaha
[02:22] <xed2> i know what you mean
[02:22] <xed2> im in high school
[02:22] <xed2> its terrible
[02:22] <NoUse> GTroy grip always works well
[02:22] <xed2> but i force those two wonderful commands on them anyways
[02:22] <lightbright> bob2: at installartion Ubuntu chose VESA and I want to change it to use my proper video card, how?
[02:22] <xed2> if only someone could nicely port irssi to win32, now that would be sweeetness
[02:22] <bob2> lightbright: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:22] <GTroy> NoUse: thanks
[02:22] <lightbright> bob2:  ok thanks
[02:22] <bob2> it presumably runs under cygwin
[02:22] <Inchabod> NoUse, What is it called?
[02:22] <Gorth> also, do i need to reformat before updating to breezy??
[02:22] <lightbright> bob2:  and how do I change the Hz from 60 to 85Hz?
[02:23] <synapsis_> xed2: wish i could figure out how to write a decent p2p script for gaim
[02:23] <NoUse> Inchabod maybe I'm wrong, whats the diff between flash and shockwave?
[02:23] <Inchabod> Theres quite a big difference >.<
[02:23] <NoUse> Inchabod you said it was a browser plugin
[02:23] <mr-russ> where can I find docs on creating a packages distribution point?
[02:23] <Inchabod> It is.
[02:24] <Inchabod> For IE.
[02:24] <Inchabod> Not for Firefox.
[02:24] <lightbright> bob2:  how do I change the Hz on my monitor from 60 to 85Hz?
[02:24] <synapsis_> also question, whenever i set my monitor to the sizing of the screen, ubuntu doesn't remember these settings
[02:24] <NoUse> Inchabod well if its only for IE, how do you expect it to run in Linux?
[02:24] <Inchabod> That's why I asked.
[02:24] <Inchabod> :P
[02:24] <Gorth> noUse: wine :D
[02:24] <Inchabod> Gorth, I'm not going to wine IE?
[02:24] <NoUse> !shockwave
[02:24] <ubotu> Unfortunately there is no shockwave available for Linux (unless you use wine).  Please lobby Macromedia!
[02:24] <NoUse> yeah I guess not
[02:24] <Gorth> i was kidding ;
[02:24] <Gorth> :(
[02:25] <drew_> could someone help me make a symbolic link?  my browser is hating me and I don't know what the command is.
[02:25] <Inchabod> bah
[02:25] <lightbright> whats the best program to use to play DVD and Mpeg and Vob files?
[02:25] <gimmulf> drew_:  man ln
[02:25] <drew_> thanks
[02:25] <Gorth> anywho, does anyone else have problems with sound in x-chat or know how to fix them?
[02:26] <Gorth> or recommend any other IRC programs?
[02:26] <drew_> gimmulf, which directory do you list first?  The link or where it will actually store the files?
[02:26] <bob2> lightbright: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:26] <xed2> oh ya, no0dl3, i got a freakin PCI capure card
[02:26] <xed2> i can cleanly convert your breakdance video to dvd
[02:26] <Astxist_> yay fixed my problem ^_^
[02:26] <sfsindee> gorth:  i use gaim for IRC  -not as full featured but does the job. :)
[02:26] <bimberi> lightbright: try out totem (installed by default), if not happy look at mplayer, vlc, xine ...
[02:27] <gimmulf> drew_:  first target then link name
[02:27] <roy> hey everyone I have ubuntu 5.10 but in synaptic kubuntu doesnt show up
[02:27] <bimberi> ubotu tell lightbright about dvd
[02:27] <gimmulf> drew_:   ln [OPTION] ... TARGET [LINK_NAME] 
[02:27] <roy> how can i get it to show up?
[02:27] <drew_> gimmulf,  thanks
[02:27] <Astxist_> is it just me or is the network settings (applet?) a little broken?
[02:27] <synapsis_> question, anyone know anything about monitor problems?
[02:27] <gimmulf> drew_:  use -s as option for symbolic
[02:27] <lightbright> bob2:  thanks again
[02:28] <Gorth> thanks sfsindee
[02:28] <Tufriast> anyone got a link to the packages included in kubuntu?
[02:28] <Gorth> sfsindee: where do i get to the IRC in gaim?!
[02:28] <roy> does kubuntu-desktop show up in synaptic by default or do I have to do something...?
[02:28] <lightbright> bimberi:  do they need libdvdcss2?
[02:28] <drew_> gimmulf, ln: `/media/music/dc/torrent/': hard link not allowed for directory
[02:28] <synapsis_> anyoen know how to eject a usbkey safely?
[02:28] <drew_> gimmulf, help?
[02:29] <thread> Did anyone else get their cd's from shipit? I ordered 55 discs, and I just received an envelope with 1 i386 and 1 x86_64
[02:29] <Tufriast> synapsis just unmount i'd suppose
[02:29] <lightbright> thread: 55? :P
[02:29] <synapsis_> Tufriast: i run into an error
[02:29] <Tufriast> try unmounting as root
[02:29] <sfsindee> gorth:  its just a matter of adding an IRC account.  tools>accounts>add
[02:29] <roy> 55!??? probably got stopped by cutsoms
[02:29] <thread> lightbright: oh wow.. I remember the light bright! that toy from long ago
[02:29] <gimmulf> drew_:  did you use -s ?
[02:29] <synapsis_> Tufriast: how
[02:29] <Gorth> sfsindee: doh! thanks
[02:29] <eNiNjA> lol...customs
[02:29] <bimberi> lightbright: usually
[02:29] <nalioth> LjL: you here?
[02:29] <drew_> gimmulf, nope, do I just put that on the end?
[02:29] <lightbright> roy: or a lot of customs guys are now running Ubuntu :)
[02:29] <mustard5> synapsis_, I have read something about using the sync command too
[02:30] <synapsis_> mustard5: regarding the usbkey?
[02:30] <lightbright> thread:  so you like my nick then? :)
[02:30] <drew_> gimmulf, ln /media/music/dc/torrent /home/drew/torrent -s ?
[02:30] <thread> so yeah... just wondering if there's something I don't know...
[02:30] <gimmulf> drew_:  ln -s where/to/ link_name
[02:30] <mustard5> synapsis_, yep read 'man sync'
[02:30] <drew_> gimmulf, ok, thanks
[02:30] <synapsis_> k
[02:30] <Tufriast> there is command do do it...synapsis...
[02:30] <gimmulf> drew_:  if you check the man it says: ln [OPTION] ... TARGET [LINK_NAME] 
[02:30] <lightbright> thread: I would say that a lot of customs guys are now running Ubuntu :)
[02:31] <Gorth> welp, thanks for the help, guys!
[02:31] <drew_> gimmulf, thanks, I just didn't understand that cus i'm an idiot
[02:31] <Gorth> i'll cy'all later
[02:31] <superbeast> can some1 help me with ati drivers?
[02:31] <lightbright> can I install Konqueror?
[02:31] <Toccy> Guys is there a ubuntu social?
[02:31] <Tufriast> is the package list for ubuntu in the wiki
[02:32] <bimberi> lightbright: sure
[02:32] <Tufriast> if you are using kubuntu lightbright
[02:32] <lightbright> bimberi:  I am used to Konq as a file manager
[02:32] <superbeast> can someone helpo me get americas army working?
[02:32] <Tufriast> just type a web page in the address bar
[02:32] <bimberi> lightbright: it will bring in a number of kde libraries
[02:32] <lightbright> Tufriast: I have to install KDE to use Konqueror as a file manager?
[02:32] <synapsis_> mustard5: i typed man sync, it said that there's 45 lines, however i can only get down to line 18
[02:32] <lightbright> bimberi:  can I install Konq without installing the whole KDE?
[02:33] <Tufriast> yes lightbright
[02:33] <Tufriast> cant do it
[02:33] <Tufriast> sorry, it's KDE only
[02:33] <mustard5> synapsis_, page up and page down
[02:33] <synapsis_> mustard5: smart =D
[02:33] <LjL> lightbright: yes, but it will install a lot of KDE dependencies anyway
[02:33] <mustard5> synapsis_, q to exit
[02:33] <lightbright> Tufriast: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:33] <synapsis_> nope, thats as far as i can go =(
[02:33] <lightbright> LjL: ok
[02:33] <roy> lightbright: I'm trying to install kubuntu-desktop too
[02:33] <alx_> what prog to install to connect via ssh
[02:33] <roy> but i get "E: Invalid operation kubuntu-desktop
[02:33] <roy> "
[02:34] <Agrajag> alx_: ssh
[02:34] <Tufriast> eh, yeah, is it worth it lightbright? I'd just stick with good ol' Firefox - I use kde now, and it's decent....but im not givin' up my extensios
[02:34] <lightbright> can I install kubuntu-desktop KDE on modem?  how much needs to be insatlled?
[02:34] <Tufriast> extensions*
[02:34] <alx_> not open shh ^
[02:34] <alx_> \?
[02:34] <Astxist_> AdBlockPlus :)
[02:34] <nerdzyboy> hi
[02:34] <alx_> something like that
[02:34] <lightbright> Tufriast: I use Firefox, im talking about file manager
[02:34] <Tufriast> yeah, adblock, and all-in-one gestures = win
[02:34] <Agrajag> alx_: it's the same program
[02:34] <nerdzyboy> I'm trying to use ubuntu on a laptop...
[02:34] <lightbright> I dont want to use Konmqueror as web brwoers
[02:35] <lightbright> does Gnome have a file manager similar to Konqueror that has 2 split windows?
[02:35] <nerdzyboy> when I plug a second monitor the image looked squashed (horizontally), I tried changing the resolution but no luck...
[02:35] <nerdzyboy> How can I get this right?
[02:35] <bimberi> lightbright: probably infeasible, you can see by typing "aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" (146M for me)
[02:36] <bimberi> lightbright: er, sudo aptitude...
[02:36] <mustard5> synapsis_, my sync manual is basically all on one page
[02:36] <mustard5> synapsis_, there is not much else to read
[02:37] <nerdzyboy> ???
[02:37] <Tufriast> anyone know where i can get a package list of kubuntu
[02:37] <synapsis_> mustard5: yeah, doesn't give me a lot to go on
[02:37] <erisco> can anyone please help me get limewire working? it is absolutely vital
[02:37] <Tufriast> im just checking to see that oo.org and the vitals are there
[02:37] <mustard5> synapsis_, basically I think you just type sync in terminal
[02:37] <Tufriast> erisco you can just download it and run it
[02:37] <NoUse> !tell erisco about limewire
[02:37] <Tufriast> !tell
[02:38] <nerdzyboy> Anyone? Please?
[02:38] <synapsis_> mustard5: did, didn't do nothing =)
[02:38] <lightbright> bimberi: So does Gnome have a file manager where I can browse files and copy from one place to another etc, that is similar to Konqueror that has 2 split windows?
[02:38] <erisco> no, i have java installed correctly. i have limewire installed correctly... no go when i hit the runLime.sh
[02:38] <mustard5> synapsis_, well it probably does. :)
[02:38] <synapsis_> hahaha
[02:38] <gimmulf> How can i check how many users my webhost will handle?
[02:38] <NoUse> erisco can you be more specific than "no go"?
[02:39] <bimberi> lightbright: i don't know sorry
[02:39] <mustard5> synapsis_, when I did it I could here my hard drive doing something for a second
[02:39] <lightbright> bimberi:  ok ty anyway
[02:39] <lightbright> anyone else know?
[02:39] <erisco> NoUse, not really. nothing happens, I execute it... and nothing. literally.
[02:39] <bimberi> lightbright: i use nautilus but i don't know about the split windows thang
[02:39] <lightbright> bimberi:  what do you use to browse and copy etc etc?
[02:39] <NoUse> erisco is the java executable in your path?
[02:39] <lightbright> bimberi:  how do you copy stuff from 1 hard drive to another etc>?
[02:39] <Tufriast> quit
[02:39] <mustard5> synapsis_, I have my side case open all the time so I can hear everything my hard drive is doing :)
[02:39] <erisco> NoUse, you mean permissions?
[02:40] <bimberi> bimberi: i mostly use the cli for that sort of thing
[02:40] <erisco> NoUse, what i the command for that again?
[02:40] <NoUse> erisco no, I mean can you run java from the shell and get the java vm
[02:40] <synapsis_> mustard5: very smart idea.  i have a dell system which i ordered, so i don't have an option of opening anything =)
[02:40] <erisco> NoUse, i doubt it but i might ahve missed that step
[02:40] <bimberi> lightbright: er, s/bimberi/lightbright/ (gawd, did it again)
[02:40] <mustard5> synapsis_, well its not good for keeping dust out ;)
[02:40] <NoUse> erisco what happens when you run 'java' from the shell?
[02:40] <erisco> java shell? never heard of it
[02:40] <erisco> NoUse, how do I get into it?
[02:40] <synapsis_> mustard5: hahahha, yeah that could be trouble =)
[02:41] <mustard5> synapsis_, I'm just too lazy and don't like putting it back on
[02:41] <lightbright> bimberi: what?
[02:41] <NoUse> erisco I think the console is under accessories
[02:41] <synapsis_> mustard5: i don't blaim you =D
[02:41] <erisco> NoUse, nope
[02:41] <erisco> NoUse, is there not a terminal command?
[02:41] <lightbright> I need k3b too it seems
[02:41] <bimberi> lightbright: nvm, i answered your question with a post starting with "bimberi:" (D'Oh)
[02:41] <lightbright> bimberi:  hehe ;)
[02:42] <mustard5> synapsis_, I have scary thoughts of something blowing up inside and taking an eye out :P
[02:42] <lightbright> bimberi: whats nvm?
[02:42] <NoUse> erisco you want to pull up the Terminal
[02:42] <bimberi> never mind
[02:42] <erisco> NoUse, i jst did
[02:42] <NoUse> erisco its under accessories on my machine
[02:42] <erisco> NoUse, not on mine
[02:42] <NoUse> erisco and when you run 'java'?
[02:42] <erisco> NoUse, you using 5.10?
[02:42] <NoUse> erisco yeah
[02:42] <erisco> NoUse, well i can run java
[02:42] <erisco> NoUse, it works fine with mozilla
[02:42] <Mark_Echo> after compiling Knzb. Newer versions use the KDE XML GUI framework, which
[02:42] <Mark_Echo> requires that the knzbui.rc file is correctly placed in $KDEDIRS.
[02:42] <NoUse> have you tried running runLime.sh from the Terminal?
[02:43] <Mark_Echo> Where do I locate $KDEDIRS ???
[02:43] <Mark_Echo> I just compiled knzb.. and in the install notes, he mentions I should paste a file into $KDEDIRS !??!
[02:43] <anto9us> Mark_Echo, no pun but have you tried to echo it?
[02:43] <Mark_Echo> yup
[02:43] <Mark_Echo> it says nothing
[02:44] <anto9us> Mark_Echo, then it isn't set
[02:44] <Mark_Echo> no path
[02:44] <gandi> Hi. I'm trying to install Kubuntu 5.10 and after the first reboot it loops on postinstall configuration of apt
[02:44] <gandi> it asks me if I want to add another apt source, I say NO
[02:44] <Mark_Echo> im new to linux sorry :/ I dunno what to do.. I just want knzb to wokrk
[02:44] <gandi> and it configures apps and asks for it once more
[02:44] <Mark_Echo> work*
[02:44] <erisco> sigh.... looking for the limewire folder
[02:44] <erisco> found it
[02:44] <gandi> any idea on how to fix it/workaround?
[02:44] <mustard5> gandi, very strange
[02:44] <anto9us> Mark_Echo, what is knzb?
[02:44] <haTem> i'm having a strange problem, my "sudo" appears to be broken.. no matter what command i run with it, nothing happens (no errors, can't ctrl-c)... any ideas?
[02:45] <Mark_Echo> it's a newsreader client, good for nzb files (headers as one)
[02:45] <mustard5> haTem, have you just installed ?
[02:45] <switchcat> weird, I've got a partially installed system that SEEMS to work.  I've had a major headache with CDs I've written from three different downloads not getting through the entire process.  So now I have a box that I'm not sure what is installed on it, and for which I have no root password...
[02:45] <user01> how do i fix lilo so that there is a boot menu?  right now it is just automatically booting into linux
[02:45] <gandi> mustard5: I'm in the middle of that, so I can provide any debug data needed
[02:45] <erisco> NoUse, it is complaining about my java version
[02:45] <erisco> NoUse, or java in general
[02:45] <lightbright> bimberi: oiswym :)
[02:45] <NoUse> erisco well now you know what the problem is
[02:45] <erisco> NoUse, it says it wants 1.4+, and it says i have 1.4.2
[02:45] <switchcat> any suggestions for next steps to 1) get a root password (or is there a default?) and to install additional needed components (if any) from the net?
[02:45] <zenrox> Mark_Echo,  knzb is in the repos
[02:46] <mustard5> gandi, I'm not sure I know whats going on even if you did give me debug info ;)
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> user01,  you installed lilo? ubuntu defaults to useing grub.
[02:46] <erisco> NoUse, it also says the version is suitable
[02:46] <lightbright> bimberi:  oiswym = Oh I see what you mean :)
[02:46] <bimberi> lightbright: lol, i've not seen that one (but i got it) :)
[02:46] <Mark_Echo> zenrox... sorry I don't understand "repos"?
[02:46] <user01> Dr_Willis: i didnt install lilo...oh it is grub?
[02:46] <NoUse> erisco I gave up on limewire a long time ago
[02:46] <erisco> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[02:46] <gandi> mustard5: anyone who I could contact?
[02:46] <zenrox> !tell Mark_Echo about repostories
[02:46] <erisco> this line looks a bit funky
[02:46] <haTem> mustard5: nope, i've had this isntall for a couple of months
[02:46] <lightbright> bimberi:  I just made it up ;)
[02:46] <haTem> mustard5: it's been working fine up until today
[02:46] <NoUse> erisco you might need to install the sun java jvm
[02:46] <mustard5> gandi, there are others in this channel who might know...keep trying
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> user01,  :P yep.. edit the grub.conf and put in where it shows the menu and put in a delay if ya want.
[02:46] <Mark_Echo> eh that's weird.. I only got 2 newsreader client in my repo
[02:46] <erisco> NoUse, i have java tho....
[02:47] <bimberi> lightbright: thought so :)
[02:47] <gandi> anyone else who could help with Ubuntu install process?
[02:47] <mustard5> haTem, are you sure you logged in with your admin account?
[02:47] <Mark_Echo> and on the main site it clearly states "no build ready"
[02:47] <zenrox> Mark_Echo,  enable  the multiverse and universe
[02:47] <erisco> NoUse, if i cannot get this to work i have just failed my project...
[02:47] <drummer> !info app gnome-pilot
[02:47] <zenrox> then thare will be more
[02:47] <haTem> mustard5: pretty sure, i've only got 1 account
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> user01,  it may be menu.lst it uses.. not sure.
[02:47] <Mark_Echo> zenrox, already done
[02:47] <mustard5> haTem, ah ok
[02:47] <synapsis_> where can i find information on what the macro keys are
[02:47] <NoUse> erisco so I'm helping you with homework?
[02:47] <haTem> mustard5: dunno if this means anything, but "ps ax" shows " 6205 ?        D      0:00 sudo ls" and similar for all of the sudo processes
[02:47] <erisco> Exception during runtime initialization
[02:47] <erisco>  java.lang.NullPointerException
[02:47] <erisco>  <<No stacktrace available>>
[02:47] <erisco> oops
[02:48] <erisco> that shouldn't of been multiple lines
[02:48] <erisco> sorry
[02:48] <NoUse> erisco install the sun java jre
[02:48] <erisco> NoUse, in a way
[02:48] <erisco> NoUse, i dont get it, i already have java
[02:48] <mustard5> haTem, have you got a root password set up by chance?
[02:48] <mustard5> haTem, I know its disabled by default but you never know ;)
[02:48] <haTem> mustard5: nope, unless ubuntu has one set up by default
[02:48] <haTem> mustard5: lol
[02:49] <mustard5> haTem, no it wont :)
[02:49] <NoUse> erisco it obviously wants a different version
[02:49] <NoUse> erisco get the sun kre
[02:49] <NoUse> jre*
[02:49] <StDellis> Is linux very limited on what printers work for it? I want to install a dell printer but its not listed and I cant find the driver?
[02:49] <mustard5> haTem, ok, then you might try recovery mode from you grub menu at bootup, you should be able to reach a root prompt using that and run visudo to check your sudoers file
[02:49] <erisco> NoUse, installing another version will not conflict will it?
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  check the cups.org site and see what they say about the printer.
[02:50] <mustard5> haTem, sometimes grub requires that you hit 'Esc' to see the menu
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  also a 'dell' printer is proberly just some other comanies printer with a dell logo on it.
[02:50] <JonasNZ> hey i need some help installing ubuntu on my g3 tower
[02:50] <NoUse> erisco you'll probably just want to replace what you have the the sun jre
[02:50] <haTem> mustard5: hmm, okay, i'll try that in a sec :)
[02:50] <StDellis> Dr_willis how do I find out if its a different company? and which one for that matter
[02:50] <erisco> NoUse, replace? how can i just replace it?
[02:51] <xed2> holy crap im leaving
[02:51] <mustard5> haTem, its a bit of strange issue, normally you would get some type of error message
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  google is your friend. :P
[02:51] <user01> how do i figure out of lilo or grub was installed?  i thought it said it was installing lilo by default
[02:51] <NoUse> !tell erisco about java
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  could check the output of 'dmesg' when you plug the printer in also.
[02:51] <haTem> mustard5: would reinstalling sudo do anything at all?
[02:51] <haTem> doh, i can't even do that
[02:51] <haTem> lol
[02:51] <mustard5> haTem, I doubt it
[02:52] <haTem> can't run synaptic/apt-get as user :P
[02:52] <StDellis> dr_willis sorry I dont understand that? I'm new to linux :S
[02:52] <mustard5> haTem, what you need to look at first is your /etc/sudoers file using the visudo command from a root prompt
[02:52] <erisco> NoUse, I already read that... it is what I am following now
[02:52] <NoUse> erisco the Sun java section?
[02:52] <haTem> mustard5: what should it say?
[02:52] <StDellis> dr_willis it detects the printer as Dell Photo Printer 720 but I cant install it
[02:52] <erisco> NoUse, yes
[02:53] <Mark_Echo> sorry noob here: requires that the knzbui.rc file is correctly placed in $KDEDIRS ****Where do I locate $KDEDIRS ?!??
[02:53] <NoUse> erisco ok, so follow that and install the Sun jre
[02:53] <Toma-> !fat
[02:53] <ubotu> Toma-: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:53] <Toma-> !vfat
[02:53] <ubotu> from memory, vfat is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  check the CUPS homepage and see what they say about it. Ubuntu  uses the CUPS printing system
[02:53] <mustard5> haTem, it should either show your username or a %admin group listed along with root having all privileges
[02:53] <erisco> I already have before, is it safe to do it again?
[02:53] <JonasNZ> can anyone point me in the right direction as to how to get my g3 tower to boot the install cd
[02:53] <tomaj> Mark_Echo $KDEDIRS is a variable that should point to the directories where kde files are stored
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> JonasNZ,  normally ya hold down the "c" key.
[02:54] <erisco> still nothing NoUse
[02:54] <Mark_Echo> tomaj, so it can be anywhere right? Is there a way for me to check.. once again im sorry.. im REALLY new
[02:54] <NoUse> erisco you need to point your session to the Sun jre binaries
[02:54] <synapsis_> can anyone point me in the direction to understand what the shortcut keys are for ubuntu?
[02:54] <mustard5> gandi, try describing your problem again periodically ( not too often though) ;)
[02:54] <erisco> NoUse, huh?
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> try 'echo $KDEDIRS'  and see what its set to.
[02:55] <StDellis> ok just search for Dell then?
[02:55] <NoUse> erisco and I'm guessing that is what you are supposed to be learning how to do via this project
[02:55] <tomaj> Mark_echo no need to appologise we were all new once, the kde dirs its refering to i think is the /lib/kde3 but im not sure
[02:55] <JonasNZ> Dr_Willis it doesnt detect the cd
[02:55] <erisco> NoUse, the project is nothing to do with limewire
[02:55] <erisco> NoUse, or computers
[02:55] <tomaj> Mark_Echo and do what Dr_Willis suggested first
[02:55] <NoUse> erisco ?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> JonasNZ,  ive had such hassles getting mac machines to see the cd's ive ended up going to the 'openfirmeare' and booting the cd that way.
[02:55] <erisco> NoUse, oh forget it
[02:56] <StDellis> !ping
[02:56] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, stdellis.
[02:56] <tomaj> how do i get x-chat to autocomplete nicknames?
[02:56] <JonasNZ> Dr_Willis what do i do in openfirmware to get it to boot
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> JonasNZ,  some funky odd key combo - like alt-option-o-f
[02:57] <nalioth> tomaj: tab key
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> JonasNZ,  then ya can get to some shell like interface and i forget the commands to make it boot the cd.
[02:57] <Mark_Echo> tx guys :) I've tried to echo $KDEDIRS and there's no result, just a blank space
[02:57] <tomaj> thanx nalioth
[02:57] <StDellis> Dr_willis I cant find anything on that Cups site about my driver? Should I guess that it doesnt work with linux?
[02:57] <JonasNZ> Dr_Willis yeah im in open firmware, its just getting it to boot
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  'with CUPS' - Linux has nothing todo with it. :P
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  and its possible its a clone of some other printer that does work.. try googleing for that 'printer make and linux'
[02:58] <StDellis> Dr_willis oh do I have to download CUPS?
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  CUPS is the default ubuntu printing software - its allready there.
[02:58] <JayLv99> hey - what is teh default root password for ubuntu?
[02:58] <tomaj> Mark_Echo: what are you trying to do exactly?
[02:58] <JayLv99> 'cause I just installed it, and apparently it never asked me for a password.
[02:58] <Agrajag> JayLv99: there is no root password
[02:58] <Agrajag> Use sudo.
[02:58] <Agrajag> !rootsudo
[02:59] <ubotu> rootsudo is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:59] <user01> can someone help me figure out what is up with my configuration...why there is no boot menu for the other partition?
[02:59] <enajeirak> im sorry were you guys making out?
[03:00] <enajeirak> hallo
[03:00] <enajeirak> well this is awkword
[03:00] <blackhat> http://pastebin.com/429776, I use XDVDShrink and I get this error when I am trying to rip a dvd to an iso.
[03:00] <mustard5> user01, have you tried pressing 'Esc' at boot for the grub menu?
[03:00] <JayLv99> alrighty, ty Agrajag
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  first hit on google says --->  The Dell 720 can be used with the Lexmark Z615 printer driver
[03:00] <haTem> mustard5: it looks normal to me, it has the %admin line :-/
[03:01] <tomaj> enajeirak: are you smoking crack?
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> and if its a Lexmark printer... well.. lets say ive thrown away several of those.
[03:01] <user01> mustard5: let me try...
[03:01] <mustard5> haTem, I guess you need to find out whether you are still in the %admin group
[03:01] <mustard5> haTem, either that or just change the %admin part to your username
[03:01] <tomaj> lol Dr_Willis Lexmarks are good door stoppers nothing more
[03:01] <haTem> mustard5: okay, i'll give that a shot :P
[03:01] <enajeirak> as a matter of fact no
[03:01] <enajeirak> just bored
[03:02] <mustard5> haTem, k good luck
[03:02] <haTem> mustard5: thank you :)
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> tomaj,  i wouldent even use them for that.
[03:02] <matthew_w> Hey - is there a way to go even louder than the volume can normally go in Ubuntu... ?
[03:02] <enajeirak> are youuuuuuuuuuuu
[03:02] <synapsis_> is anyone here doing audio editting?
[03:02] <mustard5> matthew_w, turn your speakers up?
[03:02] <user01> mustard: it just says lilo 22.6.1, so i think lilo was installed by default
[03:02] <tomaj> Dr_Willis: they might just splash ink everywhere...
[03:02] <matthew_w> mustard5; software wise
[03:02] <StDellis> dr_willis I found that now yes but I'm trying to do the install when I go to change root to su - and put in my root pass it doesnt auth failed?
[03:02] <Agrajag> matthew_w: apt-get install spinal-tap, all the volume controls will go to 11
[03:03] <io_error> Hm, I'm getting a 404 on breezy-backports; do I have the wrong repository or something?
[03:03] <blackhat> Whats a good program to Copy DVD's and have them work in DVD Players?
[03:03] <mustard5> matthew_w, are you just using the master volume control or double clicking and using the the more advanced controller?
[03:03] <Agrajag> io_error: I don't think breezy-backports exists yet
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  use 'sudo' not 'su -'    -- Its a Ubuntu "feature" for more security
[03:03] <matthew_w> mustard5; both
[03:03] <io_error> Agrajag: hm, it says in the /topic that it exists?
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> !tell StDellis  about sudo
[03:03] <matthew_w> it's loud, I just need it even louder (surround sound here)
[03:03] <tomaj> enajeirak: lol this is a support channel, idle banter is generally discouraged :) call a friend, that usually helps my boredom
[03:03] <Agrajag> oh it does?
[03:03] <mustard5> matthew_w, k, I'm at a loss then sorry
[03:03] <Agrajag> my mistake
[03:03] <io_error> now, where IS it?
[03:04] <tomaj> matthew_w: what sound card?
[03:04] <Agrajag> heckifIknow
[03:04] <enajeirak> yes i know, im accually waiting for someone to meet me here that was going to help me with somthing
[03:04] <mustard5> io_error, i would just disable backports
[03:04] <matthew_w> tomaj; creative PCI soundblaster
[03:04] <io_error> this I have in /etc/apt/sources.list: # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[03:04] <user01> mustard5: it goes right from the bios screen to lilo22.6.1..........
[03:04] <io_error> mustard5: I have it disabled already - that's not my question :)
[03:04] <JonasNZ> Dr_Willis any ideas at all?
[03:04] <matthew_w> Agrajag; what repository is that in, I can't find it
[03:04] <tomaj> matthew_w: if its live then i had problems with that too, can you hear anything from your back channels?
[03:05] <mustard5> user01, ah you use lilo..hmmm..I have never used that myself
[03:05] <JayLv99> hey - I'm working on installing JRE, and I got this error message after agreeing to the license terms and whatnot
[03:05] <JayLv99> it says "error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2)"
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> JonasNZ,  on what?
[03:05] <JayLv99> nd then "error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm"
[03:05] <matthew_w> tomaj; yes, It's loud and clear, I just need to go even ridiculously louder
[03:05] <Agrajag> matthew_w: that's a joke
[03:05] <darrochfamily> my HP Deskjet 710C won't work in kububtu 5.10 I've posted the cups error log in flood can somebody help me?
[03:05] <matthew_w> Agrajag; lol.
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> darrochfamily,  that a printer-scanner combo?
[03:05] <Agrajag> you've never seen the movie I guess :/
[03:05] <tomaj> matthew_w: have you pulled both PCM, Master and the knob to the highest?
[03:05] <matthew_w> Agrajag; well don't own me.
[03:05] <StDellis> !tell StDellis cups
[03:05] <blackhat> http://pastebin.com/429776, I use XDVDShrink and I get this error when I am trying to rip a dvd to an iso.
[03:05] <io_error> grub is your friend
[03:06] <user01> well im editing /etc/lilo.conf and nothing is happening
[03:06] <haTem> mustard5: i replaced %admin with my username and it seems to work now :), thanks for your help
[03:06] <mustard5> haTem, well done :)
[03:06] <matthew_w> tomaj; yes.
[03:06] <matthew_w> lo
[03:06] <matthew_w> l
[03:06] <haTem> i also set the root password just in case something like that every happens again
[03:06] <tomaj> StDellis: use /msg ubotu cups to avoid spaming channel
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> user01,  after eding the lilo.conf you need to rerun lilo to make the mbr get updated.
[03:06] <io_error> user01: after editing lilo.conf you need to re-run lilo, every time
[03:06] <mustard5> haTem, you must have been taken out of the %admin group somehow
[03:06] <io_error> sudo /sbin/lilo
[03:06] <darrochfamily> Dr_Willis, no just a printer
[03:06] <user01> oh thanks!
[03:06] <thread> light/wk
[03:06] <tomaj> matthew_w: go to edit > preferences in volume control
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> darrochfamily,  check the ubuntu wiki's and the cups homepage. for details is step 1 i think.
[03:07] <haTem> mustard5: that's pretty weird, i havn't messed with the groups at all
[03:07] <everton137> Hi, I am trying to ./configure a plugin for gaim, but checking for GAIM... configure: error: Package requirements (gaim) were not met.
[03:07] <everton137> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[03:07] <io_error> blackhat: you need to paste the contents of the mkisodebug.txt file
[03:07] <darrochfamily> Dr_Willis, ok thanks
[03:07] <JayLv99> ugh...
[03:07] <JayLv99> what's with Ubuntu and RPMs?
[03:07] <mustard5> haTem, its a mystery then... :)
[03:07] <JayLv99> how do I use alien ?
[03:07] <everton137> Can someone help me? Which value shoul I atribute to PKG_CONFIG_PATH?
[03:08] <tomaj> JayLv99: it hardly ever works
[03:08] <haTem> mustard5: lol :P
[03:08] <io_error> JayLv99: alien file.rpm should be sufficient
[03:08] <tomaj> JayLv99: at least not for me
[03:08] <JayLv99> 'k
[03:08] <synapsis_> i'm haivng a hard time understanding why my usbkey isn't being recognized
[03:08] <io_error> but you best bet is to find a .deb :)
[03:08] <JayLv99> let's hope alien works for JRE.
[03:08] <mustard5> synapsis_, I wrestle with that issue every day :)
[03:08] <JayLv99> *starts praying*
[03:08] <io_error> JayLv99: which JRE?
[03:08] <mustard5> synapsis_, I have no idea why mine is not recognised either
[03:08] <JayLv99> latest edition
[03:08] <Agrajag> JayLv99: Just follow the guide on the wiki
[03:08] <runedude5> hey , has anyone here got their dell 720 printer working (aka.. lexmark z615)
[03:08] <runedude5> ?
[03:09] <JayLv99> jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.rpm
[03:09] <tomaj> !java
[03:09] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:09] <io_error> yeah, the guide on the FAQ works fine
[03:09] <mustard5> synapsis_, I keep unplugging it and pluggin it in again
[03:09] <io_error> JayLv99: oops
[03:09] <synapsis_> mustard5: works eventually?
[03:09] <io_error> JayLv99: wrong package :)
[03:09] <JayLv99> oops?
[03:09] <JayLv99> oops is a bad thing
[03:09] <JayLv99> >_>
[03:09] <JayLv99> <_<
[03:09] <io_error> hm, my USB key is recognized
[03:09] <io_error> JayLv99: you have another large download ahead of you :)
[03:09] <mustard5> synapsis_, it gets recognised then I mount it and it belongs to root and I can only read
[03:09] <JayLv99> oh, joy.
[03:09] <JayLv99> how long?
[03:09] <mustard5> synapsis_, it worked fine for ages, then suddenly started playing up
[03:10] <mustard5> synapsis_, I must have changed something along the line
[03:10] <tomaj> JayLv99: have you tried the wiki method?
[03:10] <io_error> synapsis_: does the usbkey show up in System > Administration > Disks ?
[03:10] <JayLv99> tomaj - just about to.
[03:11] <everton137> Hi. How do I adjust PKG_CONFIG_PATH for compile plugins for gaim?
[03:11] <n0odl3> markw:i am back
[03:11] <everton137> Which valeu should I put?
[03:11] <JayLv99> ok, it just said that the deb file is generated, now how do I install from that?
[03:11] <Vatrodux> do you speak spanish
[03:11] <Mark_Echo> This is what im trying to do
[03:11] <synapsis_> io_error: nope
[03:11] <Mark_Echo> after compiling Knzb. Newer versions use the KDE XML GUI framework, which
[03:11] <Mark_Echo> requires that the knzbui.rc file is correctly placed in $KDEDIRS.  If you
[03:11] <Mark_Echo> haven't installed it properly, you will find you are very short on toolbar
[03:11] <Mark_Echo> buttons, particularly the "Start Download" button!
[03:11] <n0odl3> markw:can you help me with the xconf?
[03:12] <tomaj> JayLv99: you shouldnt need to do any of tat
[03:12] <io_error> synapsis_: driver problem, then
[03:12] <synapsis_> io_error: however it says its charging
[03:12] <n0odl3> can someone help me with this thread?
[03:12] <tomaj> JayLv99: are you following the debian guide you found through google?
[03:12] <n0odl3> can someone help me with setting up a pointer device tablet? here is the link that has the instructions im following: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151
[03:12] <JayLv99> tomaj - right now I'm just kinda following advice that people give
[03:12] <io_error> synapsis_: does other removable media show up?
[03:12] <tomaj> JayLv99: put that on pause and use the wiki guide and see if things work
[03:13] <Chris_Tucker> skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2) but it is not installable
[03:13] <tomaj> JayLv99: if it doesnt work out then slap me and continue what you are doing
[03:13] <synapsis_> io_error: i have no other removable media to try
[03:13] <Vatrodux> alguien habla espaol
[03:13] <Chris_Tucker> how do i fix this?
[03:13] <fightingfortofu> what would cause the partitioner to consistantly hang at 26% when creating the ext3 filesystem? faulty disc?
[03:13] <synapsis_> io_error: actually i'll brb i wanna try somethin
[03:13] <JayLv99> tomaj - I'm looking at the wiki thing in btwn talking to people online about it
[03:13] <StDellis> can someone help me install a driver once I have downloaded the .tar.gz file for a printer?
[03:13] <fightingfortofu> hard drive, i meant
[03:13] <io_error> synapsis_: plug in your key, and run  sudo modprobe usb_storage
[03:13] <tomaj> JayLv99: i installed Java as per the guide and i havent had a problem ever
[03:14] <bob2> StDellis: that's unlikely to be neccessary
[03:14] <JayLv99> ok, once I hear back from this one guy if it doesn't work I'll do the guide :)
[03:14] <bob2> StDellis: you really checked and found ubuntu didn't have it?
[03:14] <bimberi> ubotu tell Chris_Tucker about skype
[03:14] <makol> You can't load TkCximage, this is now needed to run aMSN.
[03:14] <makol> You can compile it with the makelie inside amsn folder. ,,,,,who knows how to fix that problem???????????
[03:14] <StDellis> not that I can find
[03:14] <StDellis> where would I find it
[03:14] <tomaj> JayLv99: it will probably work because ubuntu is based on debian but the easy synaptic compatible way is to follow the wiki (you decide though im just trying to make it simple for you)
[03:14] <bob2> makol: use amsn from ubuntu
[03:14] <Mark_Echo> tomaj, is there a solution to my problem?
[03:15] <bob2> StDellis: in the add printer dialog?
[03:15] <JayLv99> ok, Lol :)
[03:15] <mcrawfor> heya. my install used to have /dev/snd/seq which was an alsa sequencer device.
[03:15] <tomaj> Mark_Echo: what was it again? you left and i forgot
[03:15] <mcrawfor> that now appears to be gone - anyone know how I can get that back?
[03:15] <Mark_Echo> k, pasting again
[03:15] <tomaj> oh yeah
[03:15] <Mark_Echo> after compiling Knzb. Newer versions use the KDE XML GUI framework, which
[03:15] <Mark_Echo> requires that the knzbui.rc file is correctly placed in $KDEDIRS.  If you
[03:15] <Mark_Echo> haven't installed it properly, you will find you are very short on toolbar
[03:15] <Mark_Echo> buttons, particularly the "Start Download" button!
[03:15] <makol> bob2: amsn cvs for ubuntu????
[03:15] <bob2> makol:moglozlrofl
[03:15] <StDellis> bob2 my printer is in there labeled Dell Photo Printer 720 but I dont have the driver for it
[03:16] <io_error> hell, tell me about skype
[03:16] <tomaj> Mark_Echo: do dir /lib/kde or kde3 see which one works
[03:16] <bob2> StDellis: what do you mean by "I don't have the driver for it"
[03:16] <bob2> tomaj: it will not be /lib
[03:16] <StDellis> bob2 I've been referred to this site http://www.staerk.de/thorsten/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=43 to install but cant seem to get it to work
[03:16] <tomaj> bob2 isnt that a lib file?
[03:16] <bob2> StDellis: ignore that
[03:16] <StDellis> bob2 like it says install driver then it comes up with a dialog box to search for it but I have no idea where or what I'm looking for
[03:16] <n0odl3> can someone help me with setting up a pointer device tablet? here is the link that has the instructions im following: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151
[03:16] <io_error> that bot is STUPID
[03:16] <bob2> tomaj: applications libs do not go in /lib
[03:17] <bob2> io_error: no, it's not
[03:17] <Xcerca> hey
[03:17] <tomaj> bob2: where does that file go then?
[03:17] <bimberi> io_error: /msg ubotu skype
[03:17] <tomaj> usr lib?
[03:17] <blackhat> http://pastebin.com/429776, I use XDVDShrink and I get this error when I am trying to rip a dvd to an iso.
[03:17] <bob2> tomaj: somewhere under /usr/share/kde*, I assume
[03:17] <Xcerca> has anybody installed a GeeForce card on their system ?
[03:17] <bob2> you don't "rip a dvd to an iso"
[03:17] <tomaj> bob2: wouldnt it be /usr/lib?
[03:17] <synapsis_> io_error: typed
[03:17] <bob2> Xcerca: if your actual question is "How do I install the nvidia binary-only drivers?", wiki.ubunut.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:18] <StDellis> bob2 what do you suggest I do then?
[03:18] <tomaj> Mark_Echo: try putting in /usr/lib/kde3
[03:18] <synapsis_> io_error: now what
[03:18] <Xcerca> thanks
[03:18] <bob2> StDellis: what sort of printer is it really?
[03:19] <StDellis> bob2 Its a Dell Photo Printer 720 but I guess its really a Lexmark
[03:19] <balzac> can i use backports as a way to clean up broken packages?
[03:19] <n0odl3> can someone help me with editing my xorg.conf?
[03:19] <tomaj> balzac: no breezy backports
[03:19] <tomaj> balzac: i take that back
[03:19] <io_error> I sent it a /msg and it told me to /msg it
[03:19] <wegstar> I installed a bootable base system... how do I configure the network card manually?
[03:19] <io_error> that's stupid :)
[03:19] <io_error> synapsis_: hm, key still plugged in?
[03:19] <tomaj> n0odl3: what are you trying to do?
[03:19] <synapsis_> io_error: yep
[03:19] <balzac> tomaj, how do i check my ubuntu version?
[03:20] <Xcerca> hey bob that link is dead,   is a binary driver install what i have to do though for the driver for my video card ?
[03:20] <n0odl3> tomaj: here is the thread that has the instructions that im following
[03:20] <tomaj> balzac: backports are available, i didnt check updated topic
[03:20] <io_error> synapsis_: sudo grep S: /proc/bus/usb/devices
[03:20] <Mark_Echo> tomaj, I only found 1 dir, and that's /etc/kde3
[03:20] <n0odl3> tomaj: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25151
[03:20] <io_error> synapsis_: see if it is showing there
[03:20] <n0odl3> tomaj im trying to set up a tablet
[03:20] <Mark_Echo> ok checking
[03:20] <bob2> n0odl3: ignore stupid forum threads
[03:20] <bob2> n0odl3: what is your goal?
[03:21] <tomaj> Mark_Echo: you do have kde installed right?
[03:21] <wegstar> so?
[03:21] <bob2> Xcerca: it's not "dead"
[03:21] <bob2> Xcerca: I mispelt ubuntu, I'm sure you can fix it
[03:21] <n0odl3> bob2: i am trying to set up a MousePen tablet
[03:21] <n0odl3> bob2: it isnt a wacom exactly but its a pressure sensative tablet
[03:21] <fletch33> can someone tell me if it is possible to remote desktop my xp desktop or do i need to make it linux as well
[03:21] <Xcerca> thx
[03:21] <tomaj> haha bob2 i love the division between the forums the irc supporters and the developers
[03:21] <user01> io_error:  thanks that worked just had to uncomment prompt and fix the hdc path
[03:21] <fletch33> i am on my laptop sorry
[03:21] <io_error> user01: :)
[03:21] <synapsis_> io_error: does nothing
[03:21] <bob2> tomaj: there's little division, except between the forum people and everyone else
[03:22] <io_error> synapsis_: hm, then you don't seem to have any USB drivers loaded at all
[03:22] <io_error> ?!?
[03:22] <n0odl3> bob2: any ideas?
[03:22] <tomaj> bob2: lol
[03:22] <io_error> synapsis_: you did use a capital S: right? :)
[03:22] <synapsis_> io_error: it was workin earlier
[03:22] <synapsis_> capital S =)
[03:22] <JayLv99> tomaj - I'm using the wiki now :)
[03:22] <io_error> hm, your USB stuff seems to be completely gone?!   run lsmod and see if the USB drivers are loaded
[03:22] <tomaj> JayLv99: glad to see you got some sense ;)
[03:23] <tomaj> n0odl3: try the threa it might work
[03:23] <tomaj> n0odl3: what do you need help with?
[03:23] <n0odl3> tomaj: im not sure on how to work it... well do i just take taht code and paste it?
[03:23] <n0odl3> what do i do with that code? where do i edit it
[03:23] <n0odl3> last time i tried to do that my xorg.conf got messed up
[03:23] <tomaj> go to terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:23] <balzac> what exactly are backports?
[03:24] <n0odl3> bob2 do you have any ideas?
[03:24] <StDellis> do you have to install something to use rpm commands in the terminal?
[03:24] <bimberi> balzac: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[03:24] <balzac> thanks bimberi
[03:24] <bob2> StDellis: bah, do not use rpm
[03:24] <tomaj> n0odl3: do you want me to help you?
[03:24] <bob2> StDellis: use alien to convert it to a .deb
[03:24] <bimberi> balzac: np :)
[03:24] <n0odl3> tomaj: yess please
[03:25] <tomaj> n0odl3: go to terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:25] <n0odl3> tomaj: i opened my xorg.conf and i backed up my old ohne
[03:25] <StDellis> bob2 I'm really really new to linux so that doesnt help me at all lol
[03:25] <synapsis_> io_error: usb_storage            64704  0
[03:25] <bob2> lolomgrofl
[03:25] <tomaj> ok
[03:25] <tomaj> now
[03:25] <tomaj> n0odl3: if the shit goes down wrong go to recoverymode and do a cp you know how to do that right?
[03:25] <n0odl3> tomaj: yes because i just did that an hour ago
[03:26] <EdLin> StDellis, Ubuntu is a Debian derivative, you usually install stuff from the repositories using apt-get (or for friendlier versions aptitude or synaptic)
[03:26] <tomaj> n0odl3: ok so do you have any idea what went wrong?
[03:26] <mcrawfor> anyone? what module runs alsa midi?
[03:26] <bob2> that's hardware-specific
[03:26] <flodine> has anyone installed arwiz font on breezy
[03:26] <mcrawfor> bob2: any guesses?
[03:27] <n0odl3> tomaj: that is the thing... Im not sure what went wrong... All i did was copy and paste that code to the imput devices
[03:27] <n0odl3> and stuff
[03:27] <quinten> hey
[03:27] <mcrawfor> bob2: places to look in the dang modules tree?
[03:27] <StDellis> Edlin ok I'm getting alien from synaptic can you help me to get my printer working cause I dont know all the commands yet
[03:27] <io_error> synapsis_: that's ALL?
[03:27] <quinten> i'm trying to use the shared folders application
[03:27] <tomaj> n0odl3: well split the process up and see where it goes wrong
[03:27] <mcrawfor> i modprobed one that put a device there, but it was for oss, and was not functional
[03:27] <io_error> synapsis_: what type of key is this?
[03:27] <n0odl3> tomaj: ok join #flood so i can paste to you my xorg.conf
[03:27] <synapsis_> io_error: ipod shuffle
[03:27] <n0odl3> tomaj: well the part that im thinking where i have to edit
[03:27] <EdLin> StDellis, system > administration > printing
[03:27] <quinten> any hints as to setting up users to connect via shared folders? i can't log on from a windows machine
[03:27] <tomaj> n0odl3: use pastebin.com
[03:28] <io_error> synapsis_: see if you have any of the following modules listed in lsmod:  ehci_hcd, ohci_hcd, uhci_hcd
[03:28] <tomaj> n0odl3: then give me the link
[03:28] <StDellis> yes I have done this but my printer is not on the list of supported ones
[03:28] <n0odl3> ok
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> quinten,  the linux users need to have a samba password enabled with 'smbpasswd -a USERNAME' i belive
[03:28] <StDellis> so I have to install the drivers somehow but cant
[03:28] <EdLin> StDellis, you probably don't want to install the RPM anyway, with Universe added, Ubuntu has over 15,000 applications available.
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> quinten,  and restart samba services afterwards also.
[03:28] <StDellis> Edlin my printer will not install just from there
[03:28] <tomaj> n0odl3: can i also suggest not using linux for graphics works :) people will hate me but photoshop is 10 times better
[03:28] <StDellis> edlin says I need the ppm files or something
[03:29] <EdLin> StDellis, Ah, you need drivers that are in rpm?
[03:29] <StDellis> yes
[03:29] <quinten> Dr_Willis: thanks. that could use some cleanup to be made more obvious
[03:29] <EdLin> StDellis, check out linuxprinting.org (or something like that) on the net.
[03:29] <tomaj> n0odl3: its up to personal opinion so try it but the interface isnt as nice although that will change soon from what i understand
[03:29] <synapsis_> io_error: uhci_hcd               28048  0
[03:29] <StDellis> edlin I have the rpm drivers already extracted. someone told me to use alien to convert to debian but I dont know how
[03:29] <synapsis_> io_error: i'm gunna try rebooting
[03:29] <n0odl3> tomaj: ok... thats cool... here is the link http://pastebin.com/429848
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> quinten,  Its plainly stated in the 'using samba' book thats online. :P
[03:30] <ubuntu-newbie> Hello i need some help
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> quinten,  samba is just such a BIG complex tool.. theres lots of little gotyas.
[03:30] <EdLin> StDellis, apt-get install alien; then to find out how to use it "man alien"
[03:30] <tomaj> n0odl3: what do you want me to do?
[03:30] <io_error> synapsis_: yeah, you have ltos of modules missing...reboot should clear it up :)
[03:30] <synapsis_> io_error: hopefully =P
[03:30] <synapsis_> brb
[03:30] <ubuntu-newbie> can anybody help please?
[03:31] <n0odl3> tomaj:well can you walk me through the procedure to what exactly im suppose to do?
[03:31] <mustard5> ubuntu-newbie, describe your problem
[03:31] <tomaj> n0odl3: http://pastebin.com/429849
[03:31] <ubuntu-newbie> mustard5, i can't play mp3s on my ubuntu
[03:31] <ubuntu-newbie> i tried upgrading the hole thing
[03:31] <ubuntu-newbie> and it finally that 1 file has a bad header and could not be downloaded
[03:31] <tomaj> n0odl3: thats what its supposed to look like based on instructions
[03:31] <EdLin> brb
[03:32] <Agrajag> ubotu: tell ubuntu-newbie about codecs
[03:32] <mustard5> ubuntu-newbie, have you followed the guide at the wiki yet?
[03:32] <ubuntu-newbie> and im getting this
[03:32] <n0odl3> alright ill try it tomaj
[03:32] <n0odl3> thanx
[03:32] <tomaj> thats not all though
[03:32] <io_error> ubuntu-newbie: https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats
[03:32] <tomaj> n0odl3: is that different from what you last did?
[03:32] <ubuntu-newbie> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:32] <ubuntu-newbie>   kmerlin: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.4.0) but it is not going to be installed
[03:32] <ubuntu-newbie>            Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3) but it is not installable
[03:32] <ubuntu-newbie> E: Broken packages
[03:33] <ubuntu-newbie> could that site help me? I just installed ubuntu yesterday its the first linux i ever use
[03:33] <n0odl3> tomaj: well i omitted the eraser part
[03:33] <ubuntu-newbie> got tired of bill gate's bullshit
[03:33] <tomaj> n0odl3: thats strange
[03:33] <tomaj> try adding the next bit too
[03:33] <mustard5> ubuntu-newbie, the guide will set you straight
[03:33] <ubuntu-newbie> allrighty then, thanks.
[03:33] <tomaj> n0odl3: according to the guide that should work
[03:33] <mustard5> ubuntu-newbie, follow the link ubotu sent you
[03:33] <n0odl3> hmmm...
[03:34] <tomaj> n0odl3: but remember that bob2 said that the forums arent reliable so it might be that the guide is wrong
[03:34] <tomaj> if it doesnt work try posting a msg on the forums for the user to reply on
[03:34] <n0odl3> yeah
[03:34] <nanno> anyone have problems with fetchyahoo freezing at "getting message id" at 99% cpu?
[03:34] <n0odl3> tomaj: i did but no good responses
[03:34] <StDellis> Edlin I get this error when trying to convert Must run as root to convert to deb format (or you may use fakeroot).
[03:34] <StDellis> can someone help me with this error when trying to use alien to convert a rpm package to debian Must run as root to convert to deb format (or you may use fakeroot).
[03:35] <tomaj> n0odl3: Also don't forget to change the mice device to mouse0 or mouse1, the wacom site says that all pointer devices go thru mice, and if you have your main pointer set to mice, instead of mouse0 for your mouse it will cause problems like not being able to click with your mouse or your tablet. Apparently this is an extra step you gotta do if your mouse is USB, and your tablet is USB. My mouse is PS2.
[03:35] <tomaj> n0odl3: did you read that bit
[03:35] <tomaj> n0odl3: what happens when things go wrong?
[03:36] <squareyes> afternoon all
[03:36] <n0odl3> tomaj: all x goes haywire and i can no longer boot into a gui
[03:36] <n0odl3> goes strait into a shell
[03:36] <tomaj> n0odl3: thats really strange
[03:36] <tomaj> n0odl3: is it just pressure sensitivity that doesnt work?
[03:37] <n0odl3> no the stylust portion does not work at all
[03:37] <JayLv99> hey tomaj
[03:37] <JayLv99> the wiki doesn't have a response for this
[03:37] <tomaj> JayLv99: yes?
[03:37] <squareyes> cannot get printer to work with breezy, worked fine with hoary, if I re-install hoary, and update from CD is this likely to solve problem?
[03:37] <JayLv99> "E: COuld not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)"
[03:38] <JayLv99> "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[03:38] <tomaj> JayLv99: you must have more than one application open that wants to access apt
[03:38] <JayLv99> ok, such as?
[03:38] <tomaj> JayLv99: eg Synaptic and the update manager
[03:38] <JayLv99> ooh
[03:38] <JayLv99> ok
[03:38] <JayLv99> yeah
[03:38] <JayLv99> I left that open
[03:38] <JayLv99> x_X now once I close the synaptic thing it gives me the repository message
[03:39] <JayLv99> ;x
[03:39] <tomaj> JayLv99: ?
[03:39] <ubuntu-newbie> well
[03:39] <ubuntu-newbie> E: Package xmms has no installation candidate
[03:39] <ubuntu-newbie> this is what i've been getting
[03:39] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: have you updated all the repository links?
[03:40] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: to look for breezy files
[03:40] <ubuntu-newbie> tomaj I don't know
[03:40] <JayLv99> gah
[03:40] <JayLv99> it's still saying "E: Couldn't find package java-package"
[03:40] <StDellis> can someone help me with alien
[03:40] <JayLv99> which is where the wiki said to enable repositories
[03:40] <JayLv99> but I already did
[03:41] <JayLv99> x____X
[03:41] <JayLv99> should I enable the Universe security repositories too?
[03:41] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade?highlight=%28upgrade%29
[03:41] <ubuntu-newbie> allright
[03:41] <tomaj> JayLv99: enable multi and universe
[03:41] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: go to the Through Synaptic Package Manager section
[03:42] <jedrick> anyone who plays xmame here, i have problem with the sounds
[03:42] <mobus> where can I get the latest version of GLib?
[03:42] <JayLv99> the Multiverse ones aren't shown
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> jedrick,  may be more of an alsa/oss issue then a mame issue.
[03:42] <JayLv99> what setting do I need to change to view them ?
[03:42] <EdLin> mobus, why do you need it?
[03:42] <StDellis> dr_willis Can youhelp me with an error with alien? It says this when I try to convert to deb Must run as root to convert to deb format (or you may use fakeroot).
[03:42] <jedrick> Dr_Willis: then what will i do?
[03:42] <tomaj> !multiverse
[03:42] <ubotu> repositories is, like, totally, How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[03:42] <mobus> to install everything I need to install
[03:43] <mobus> i.e. xmms-alarm
[03:43] <tomaj> JayLv99: have you followed instructions there?
[03:43] <JayLv99> yeah
[03:43] <EdLin> StDellis, run "sudo" at the beginning of the command line.
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  no clue - never used alien.      you may need to do 'sudo alien whatever.rpm'
[03:43] <JayLv99> I'm going through teh list
[03:43] <JayLv99> to see if I forgot something
[03:43] <StDellis> ok
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> jedrick,  well is it a problem with all games or just 1 ?  mame has dozens of command line options also. and the config files have even more.
[03:44] <tomaj> JayLv99: oh i forgot
[03:44] <JayLv99> I need to do this?:
[03:44] <JayLv99> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[03:44] <tomaj> JayLv99: there is an easier way
[03:44] <jedrick> all games
[03:44] <JayLv99> rofl...
[03:44] <JayLv99> easier ways are good :)
[03:44] <tomaj> JayLv99: open synaptic and repositories
[03:44] <StDellis> Edlin alright I created the .deb file now what do I do with it? how do I install a debian package?
[03:44] <JayLv99> yup
[03:44] <JayLv99> I'm in there already
[03:44] <mobus> someone? where can I get the latest GLib?
[03:44] <intelikey> xmms-alarm - xmms general plugin for using xmms as an alarm clock <--- mobus install it with apt-get
[03:44] <EdLin> StDellis, dpkg -i
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> jedrick,  whats 'wrong' with the sounds?
[03:44] <mobus> I look but I didn't see it
[03:44] <tomaj> JayLv99: i got to do this with you lol cant remember off by heart one sec
[03:44] <JayLv99> Lol
[03:44] <JayLv99> alrighty
[03:44] <mobus> hm lemme try again
[03:45] <jedrick> Dr_Willis: it's too low
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> jedrick,  youmean the volume or the pitch?
[03:45] <tomaj> JayLv99: ok click on the universe one and then click edit (either one)
[03:45] <StDellis> edlin says I need superuser privledge?
[03:45] <mobus> yes it said could not find package xmms-alarm
[03:45] <EdLin> StDellis, sudo dpkg -i (sorry)
[03:45] <JayLv99> 'k
[03:45] <tomaj> JayLv99: see where it says universe, type multiverse after it separated by a space
[03:45] <StDellis> edlin nm use sudo I guessing
[03:45] <JayLv99> 'k
[03:46] <JayLv99> then just hit ok?
[03:46] <tomaj> click ok
[03:46] <jedrick> Dr_Willis: i dunno but i almost can't here anything
[03:46] <JayLv99> and do the same with the other one ?
[03:46] <tomaj> JayLv99: and then do it for the other universe one as well
[03:46] <jedrick> even if i turn the speaker high
[03:46] <tomaj> JayLv99: ahead of me ;)
[03:46] <JayLv99> :D
[03:46] <ubuntu-newbie> where can I find Synaptic Package Manager
[03:46] <JayLv99> I'm a quick learner ;)
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> jedrick,  other progams/game got ok sound?
[03:46] <fita> ubuntu-newbie: System > Administration
[03:46] <jedrick> same problem.. low sound
[03:46] <tomaj> JayLv99: thats good, you better start helping out here soon then hehehe
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> jedrick,  sounds like its not a mame issue then.
[03:47] <mobus> yeah xmms-alarm is not in APT get or Synaptic
[03:47] <JayLv99> rofl, if you guys teach me enough I will ;)
[03:47] <Xcerca> ok, so i have the Video card driver installed,   but my resolution options are still the same
[03:47] <intelikey> !+info xmms-alarm
[03:47] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[03:47] <ubotu> xmms-alarm: (xmms general plugin for using xmms as an alarm clock.), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.3.6 (breezy), Packaged size: 25 kB, Installed size: 124 kB
[03:47] <jedrick> what is it then?
[03:47] <JayLv99> rock rock on, it's working!
[03:47] <intelikey> mobus yes it is.
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> jedrick,  check the wiki's and google for yoru specific brand sound card perhaps - and find some info
[03:47] <Xcerca> 1028x7?? is as high as it wil go
[03:47] <intelikey> !tell mobus about repos
[03:47] <tomaj> JayLv99: soon you'll learn to learn on your own, i hardly ask for help anymore, the wiki is helpful tough!
[03:47] <mobus> hmm... maybe I should update repositories...
[03:48] <Xcerca> is there a nVidia control panel for the driver ?
[03:48] <Xcerca> for the video card
[03:48] <jedrick> Dr_Willis:  my sound card is fine, maybe this would do something on the configuration.. where can i find the configuration for the sound
[03:48] <tomaj> Xcerca: check synaptic by searching for nvidia
[03:48] <EdLin> Xcerca, nvidia-settings
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> jedrick,  if you got the sliders all the way up and no volume.. sounds to me like its not fine. :P
[03:49] <EdLin> I need to go where the king goes alone, brb
[03:49] <tomaj> EdLin: Harem?
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> jedrick,  the alsa sound system can be a little  complex.    could install some of the Other alsa-mixers and twiddle with them.
[03:49] <mahangu> I selected Sinhalese as a Writing and Translating Aid
[03:49] <JayLv99> hey tomaj - I gtg for now, do you have an AIM so I can contact you tomorrow if I need more help?
[03:49] <mahangu> how do I work with it now?
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> jedrick,  could be the default volume control slider is not controlling the right mixer channel.
[03:49] <tomaj> JayLv99: just come on #ubuntu, i dont use aim sorry
[03:50] <JayLv99> alrighty :)
[03:50] <jedrick> Dr_Willis: where will i fix it then?
[03:50] <JayLv99> talk to ya later!
[03:50] <tomaj> JayLv99: i might be here tomorrow too if i get bored enough haha
[03:50] <wegstar> I installed the base system... how do I configure the network from there?
[03:50] <JayLv99> thank you for the help!
[03:50] <JayLv99> :D
[03:50] <tomaj> JayLv99: no problems
[03:50] <mahangu> !languages
[03:50] <ubotu> mahangu: No idea
[03:50] <mahangu> !lang
[03:50] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, mahangu
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> jedrick,   install some of the Other alsa-mixers and twiddle with them.
[03:50] <cfaun> does anyone happen to know when openoffice 2.0 nonbeta will be in ubuntu? Or am I misinterpreting the version info and is it already (it says version 1.9.129)
[03:50] <intelikey> !locales
[03:50] <wegstar> the base system seems to be missing a lot of drivers...
[03:50] <ubotu> intelikey: Are you on ritalin?
[03:50] <wegstar> should I just do a complete reinstall?
[03:51] <ubuntu-newbie> guys nothing is working
[03:51] <tomaj> cfaun: im using openoffice2, isnt in non beta already?
[03:51] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: whats the problem?
[03:51] <jedrick> Dr_Willis: how?,, im just new to linux :)
[03:51] <cfaun> tomaj: it is, but it looks like the non-beta version isn't in the repository yet
[03:51] <ubuntu-newbie> tomaj well um I just want to play mp3s
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> jedrick,  fire up synaptic. search for the other soundmixer tools and install them
[03:51] <ubuntu-newbie> could you tell me how to do it :S
[03:51] <Agrajag> ubuntu-newbie: did you read the link everyone pointed you to?
[03:51] <oofnik> hey folks does anyone use adesklets here?
[03:52] <jedrick> ok
[03:52] <Agrajag> It tells you everything you need to do to get any kind of media working
[03:52] <melvztechie> gdesklets
[03:52] <tomaj> ubotu languages is found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&value=languages&titlesearch=Titles
[03:52] <ubotu> tomaj: okay
[03:52] <ubuntu-newbie> yea but i cant update or install anything
[03:52] <cfaun> ubuntu-newbie: search for mp3 in apt
[03:52] <ubuntu-newbie> everything has errors
[03:52] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: did you update your repositories?
[03:52] <oofnik> supposedly adesklets is less memory intensive than gdesklets..?
[03:52] <ubuntu-newbie> whats the command to do that?
[03:53] <tomaj> cfaun: i wouldnt know in that case i thought they were the non beta versions
[03:53] <tomaj> cfaun: have you updated to the breezy repositories?
[03:53] <LjL> !tell ubuntu-newbie about repos
[03:53] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: did you do an upgrade?
[03:53] <tomaj> LjL: we already tried that
[03:53] <intelikey> ubuntu-newbie 'sudo apt-get update '
[03:53] <StDellis> edlin ok I installed the deb file but how do I install the printer now?
[03:53] <ubuntu-newbie> oh yea i updated my repositories
[03:53] <mobus> agh! I can't update my sources.list!
[03:54] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: did you do an upgrade to breezy from hoary?
[03:54] <LjL> mobus: you can't?
[03:54] <ubuntu-newbie> I dont know a friend of mine did all that
[03:54] <LjL> tomaj: what did you just say...? ;-P
[03:54] <ubuntu-newbie> he removed some "#" from a file
[03:54] <mahangu> I selected Sinhalese as a Writing and Translating Aid
[03:54] <mahangu> how do I work with it now?
[03:54] <tomaj> mobus: if your problem is saving do sudo gedit /path/to/source.list in terminal
[03:54] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: do this for me open synaptic
[03:54] <mr-russ> what is the setup with virtual packages that lead nowhere?
[03:55] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: done?
[03:56] <ubuntu-newbie> ok done
[03:56] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: go to settings > repositories
[03:56] <raven> <-- in desperate need of a Window manager replacemnt for metacity.   any suggestions..  Fast but very themable
[03:56] <ubuntu-newbie> ok do e
[03:56] <ubuntu-newbie> done*
[03:56] <mobus> tomaj: thanks... yet I tought of that as I was hitting enter, but thanks anyway.  As they say, great minds think alike
[03:57] <oofnik> raven did you try icewm?
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> replaceing metacity can be such a pain.
[03:57] <raven> no I had thought about it.. but reading the review it sais win95 / os-2 look
[03:57] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: do the items in the list include 5.10 and breezy or are there any ones that say something else?
[03:57] <raven> did not really want to go that route
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> i just set up a new gdm entry that ran whatever wm i wanted, and the gnome panel and desktop.
[03:57] <adam_> hi
[03:58] <raven> hello adam
[03:58] <ubuntu-newbie> uhm man, i dont even know what's breezy
[03:58] <intelikey> raven fluxbox ?
[03:58] <ubuntu-newbie> all 5.04
[03:58] <raven> breezy is 5.10
[03:58] <raven> you have hoary
[03:58] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: ok thats the problem then, have you upgraded to breezy?
[03:59] <ubuntu-newbie> How can I do that?
[03:59] <superbeast> anyone able to get 3d acceleration for 64 bit?
[03:59] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: are you able to call your friend and ask if he/she tried to upgrade you to breezy or not?
[03:59] <ubuntu-newbie>  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:59] <cfaun> tomaj: I am in breezy and it says the newest version is 1.9.129. By contrast, debian has version 2.0.0.
[03:59] <mobus> yes, thanks guys, everything's working perfect, until I find a program that isn't in a deb and needs GLib to install.
[03:59] <ubuntu-newbie> tomaj all he did was change some texts in a file and did and upgrade
[04:00] <tomaj> cfaun: it must have been upgraded after the last snapshot then
[04:00] <ubuntu-newbie> like apt-get upgrade
[04:00] <ubuntu-newbie> smth like that
[04:00] <superbeast> can someone help me with 3d acceleration?
[04:00] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: thats enough to do it, give him a call please so i can help you without breaking your system
[04:00] <ubuntu-newbie> I cant now its 4 am
[04:00] <ubuntu-newbie> :s
[04:00] <EdLin> superbeast, what card do you have?
[04:00] <ubuntu-newbie> I don't care if something bad happens ill re-install
[04:01] <ubuntu-newbie> :P
[04:01] <intelikey> mobus me thinks ya need to read up on glib/glibc and see what the heck you are talking about.
[04:01] <superbeast> edlin, x800xl
[04:01] <raven> ok.. installing icewm
[04:01] <superbeast> edlin, 64 bit
[04:01] <raven> how do I setup gnome to boot icewm as the WM
[04:01] <EdLin> superbeast, what is that, nvidia?
[04:01] <superbeast> ,edlin ati
[04:01] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: lol ok
[04:01] <cfaun> tomaj: nope; its older than the newest stable version. where should I go to report this? It has been like this for weeks
[04:02] <ubuntu-newbie> tomaj ;)
[04:02] <EdLin> superbeast, sorry, don't know much about ATI. You should look into the fglx driver (or something like that)
[04:02] <tomaj> cfaun: i have no idea, sorry try to ask bob2 if he is here
[04:02] <superbeast> ..........
[04:02] <cfaun> tomaj: okay; thanks!
[04:02] <tomaj> !tell superbeast about ATI
[04:02] <mobus> ok, I just package-installed 3dchess.  How do I run it?
[04:02] <cfaun> !tell me about ATI
[04:02] <tomaj> superbeast: use the wikilink
[04:02] <tomaj> lol cfaun i dont think that works
[04:02] <superbeast> tomaj thanks
[04:02] <libervisco> anyone knows of a good GTK based FTP client, besides gftp?
[04:03] <tomaj> cfaun: try /msg ubotu ati
[04:03] <ubuntu-newbie> allright tomaj, so now what am i supposed to do
[04:03] <tomaj> gftp libervisco
[04:03] <Megiddo> I can't get any email to work... I'm using webmin, I can send, but not receive, I think my problem may be do to conflicts because I've tried so many different email servers now. How can I safely and fully remove the old mail servers?
[04:03] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: one sec im trying to think of how to find out what version you are running
[04:03] <mobus> someone? does anyone know how to run 3dchess once I've installed it?
[04:04] <misfit_toy> mobus, how did you install it?
[04:04] <mobus> apt-get
[04:04] <intelikey> libervisco ncftp/ncftp2 ?
[04:04] <ubuntu-newbie> okay
[04:04] <misfit_toy> mobus, if it isn't under games, then try typing 3dchess in a terminal
[04:04] <libervisco> tomaj, except that.. I don't really like gftp..
[04:04] <Megiddo> I can't get any email to work... I'm using webmin, I can send, but not receive, I think my problem may be do to conflicts because I've tried so many different email servers now. How can I safely and fully remove the old mail servers?
[04:04] <misfit_toy> mobus, let me know if that works
[04:04] <intelikey> libervisco not sure about gtk based though
[04:04] <mobus> nope already tried it
[04:04] <tomaj> libervisco: if you find a better one let me know, im not terribly happy either
[04:05] <EdLin> libervisco, ncftp and lftp are command-line, but they are very full featured.
[04:05] <misfit_toy> mobus, hmmm...let me install it...hold on
[04:05] <tomaj> can someone tell me how to find the ubuntu version being run?
[04:05] <Megiddo> please, can anyone help me?
[04:05] <libervisco> intelikey, EdLin, thanks.. I'll try them out..
[04:05] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: were you sitting around when your friend did all the work?
[04:05] <intelikey> tomaj uname -r
[04:05] <crimsun> tomaj: lsb_release -a
[04:05] <ubuntu-newbie> tomaj yeah
[04:05] <StDellis> wuts the command to see what files are in a folder in terminal?
[04:05] <ubuntu-newbie> right next to him
[04:06] <_jason> StDellis, ls
[04:06] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: do lsb_release -a
[04:06] <superbeast> how do i find out my kernel version?
[04:06] <tomaj> thanx crimsun and intelikey
[04:06] <mobus> misfit_toy: I also already tried bash 3dchess
[04:06] <StDellis> how do I know what my CUPS username and password is? I think I know my pass but not my username?
[04:06] <tomaj> superbeast: uname -r curtesy of intelikey
[04:06] <_jason> superbeast, uname -a
[04:06] <libervisco> I know about krusader, but that is QT-based (so I need to download all the KDE stuff for it..), but besides it krusader is first class :)
[04:06] <ubuntu-newbie> LSB Version:    n/a
[04:06] <ubuntu-newbie> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[04:06] <ubuntu-newbie> Description:    Ubuntu (The Hoary Hedgehog Release)
[04:06] <ubuntu-newbie> Release:        5.04
[04:06] <ubuntu-newbie> Codename:       hoary
[04:06] <StDellis> edlin how do I set my CUPS username?
[04:06] <intelikey> -bash: lsb-release: command not found
[04:06] <misfit_toy> mobus, hold on
[04:06] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: ok so you are running 5.04 then
[04:06] <StDellis> _jason do you know how you would find out your CUPS username? I just set my password
[04:06] <ubuntu-newbie> yeah
[04:06] <crimsun> intelikey: underscore, not hyphen
[04:07] <Megiddo> I can't get any email to work... I'm using webmin, I can send, but not receive, I think my problem may be do to conflicts because I've tried so many different email servers now. How can I safely and fully remove the old mail servers?
[04:07] <_jason> superbeast, yeah do what tomaj said, more specific his way
[04:07] <coz> Hello, Is there a genealogy program, other than Gramps which sucks, for Ubuntu?
[04:07] <tomaj> !tell ubuntu-newbie about restricted
[04:07] <intelikey> wont matter crimson,  it's not installed here.  :)
[04:07] <ubuntu-newbie> whats that
[04:07] <tomaj> go to that link
[04:07] <EdLin> StDellis, I don't know CUPS all that well, I use Ubuntu's printer configuration tool - and on systems when such aids aren't available I use apsfilter with lpr (but I wouldn't recommend that for Ubuntu.)
[04:07] <Xcerca> what do i need to do to play mp3 and avi/wmv/mpeg files ?
[04:08] <coz> Xcera you need all the multimedia libs etc installed
[04:08] <Megiddo> PLEASE! I really need help here!
[04:08] <misfit_toy> mobus, type sudo updatedb in a terminal, it will update your database, then try 3dchess, it doesn't work here for me either but I believe it would if I updated my database like I'm asking you to.
[04:08] <misfit_toy> mobus "sudo updatedb"
[04:08] <ubuntu-newbie> would this website tell me how to upgrade to breezy tomaj?
[04:08] <EdLin> Megiddo, ask
[04:08] <Megiddo> I can't get any email to work... I'm using webmin, I can send, but not receive, I think my problem may be do to conflicts because I've tried so many different email servers now. How can I safely and fully remove the old mail servers?
[04:09] <coz> Xcerca did you get that?
[04:09] <Xcerca> coz when you say ALL of the multimedia lib do you mean everysingle one in synaptic ?
[04:09] <darksoul> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=493003#post493003 would somone PLEASE look at this since no one else will
[04:09] <coz> No you want a walkthrough?
[04:09] <Xcerca> plz
[04:09] <coz> Ok hold on I will get the urls for you
[04:09] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: you dont need to
[04:09] <mobus> misfit_toy: nope didn't work
[04:09] <Xcerca> thx
[04:09] <n0odl3> does anyone know if xmkmf comes with ubuntu?
[04:09] <mobus> update worked
[04:09] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: you need to install a few packages to enable mp3 playing
[04:09] <darksoul> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=493003#post493003
[04:10] <mobus> but 3dchess still didn't
[04:10] <tomaj> n0odl3: search synaptic
[04:10] <intelikey> Megiddo to remove packages try 'sudo apt-get remove -purge <package-name> '
[04:10] <tomaj> ubuntu-newbie: have you opened that page?
[04:10] <nickrud>   mobus dpkg -L | grep bin might tell you
[04:10] <darksoul> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=493003#post493003
[04:10] <misfit_toy> mobus, "whereis 3dchess" in a term
[04:10] <ubuntu-newbie> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[04:10] <ubuntu-newbie> Reading package lists... Done
[04:10] <ubuntu-newbie> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:10] <ubuntu-newbie> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[04:10] <ubuntu-newbie> thats the command in the page
[04:10] <mahangu_> im having problem with language selections
[04:10] <coz> Xcerca here is one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:10] <mahangu_> i select a language but cant use that as an input method
[04:10] <intelikey> err maybe two dashes --purge
[04:10] <coz> Also
[04:11] <coz> hold on
[04:11] <darksoul> ubuntu-noobie: you need to enable the extra respitorys
[04:11] <nickrud> mobus, duh, dpkg -L 3dchess | grep bin
[04:11] <Milk_> has anyone here had to deal with a cannon multipass C5500 printer?
[04:11] <darksoul> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=493003#post493003
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> darksoul,  i would say - yes you need to get the official ati drivers working first.
[04:11] <Cyko> hi everybody
[04:12] <mobus> nope didn't work
[04:12] <coz> i can't find it right now but you need to downoad an app called automatix
[04:12] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, you probably need to enable the multiverse repositories first
[04:12] <coz> hold on i will try to find it
[04:12] <ubuntu-newbie> nickrud how can i do that?
[04:12] <darksoul> Dr_Willis: thats great! mind telling me were to get it for breezy? couse for some weird reson it wouldent work with the hoary/warty one
[04:12] <tomaj> nickrud: can you continue helping i have to go
[04:12] <Dr_Willis> darksoul,  i followed the binary driver wiki - and got them working in about 2 min time. :P
[04:12] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, there's a link on the restricted page that will help you with that, if you need more help, I'll be around
[04:13] <darksoul> Dr_Willis: really? whats the link, couse the winki guide wouldent work for me..
[04:13] <darksoul> !ati
[04:13] <StDellis> edlin well I tried to install the driver but when I pointed to the pdd.gz file that I installed it said the driver was already installed
[04:13] <ubotu> methinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[04:13] <Xcerca> i have another hard drive that i want to format to use with linux,  what kind of partition do i need to make it?
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> darksoul,  there ya go. :P
[04:13] <ubuntu-newbie> nickrud i cant see it
[04:13] <kinkoblast> I installed the Esperanto language packages. How do I use esperanto as my language?
[04:14] <kinkoblast> Xcerca: Ext3
[04:14] <Xcerca> 100% sure ?
[04:14] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, try this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:15] <ubuntu-newbie> okay thanks, nickrud well if i download and install the codecs provided in that site. would I be able to play mp3s?
[04:15] <kinkoblast> Xcerca: I KNOW it will work. It may not be the absolute best, but it's what I used, it would work.
[04:15] <lekvar> Has anyone else in here migrated to Ubuntu from regular Debian?
[04:15] <ubuntu-newbie> dvds avi whatever all that?
[04:15] <yahya> my terminal text is garbled, it's working but printing funny stuff, how do I fix it?
[04:15] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, the codecs aren't for mp3's, really, more for playing movies.
[04:16] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, have you ever worked on the command line in a terminal?
[04:16] <coz> Xcerca no can't find it right now
[04:16] <mahangu_> the breezy javadebs give me a 404
[04:16] <coz> i can wal you through some of the multimedia installs
[04:16] <varsendagger> hey cna someone help me configure fluxbox?
[04:16] <ubuntu-newbie> nickrud a long time ago
[04:16] <ubuntu-newbie> i had an IRCd shell
[04:16] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, then, you're good to go :)
[04:17] <Xcerca> thats cool coz
[04:17] <varsendagger> -- i need to konw how to alter my menue
[04:17] <Mabus06> what do you do with .mdf files?
[04:17] <coz> I think I can also send you a link to download my copy of automatix if I remember how later
[04:17] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, open a terminal (applications->system tools->terminal)
[04:17] <ubuntu-newbie> okay done
[04:17] <coz> you ready?
[04:17] <coz> are you running breezy?
[04:17] <ubuntu-newbie> who me?
[04:17] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, then, type cd /etc/apt
[04:17] <coz> xcerca running breezy
[04:18] <ubuntu-newbie> nickrud, done
[04:18] <psusi> 10,000 micro seconds is 10 milliseconds right?
[04:18] <StDellis> dr_willis do you know anything about CUPS? I'm trying to install my printer, I've un[packed the deb files and have my ppm.gz file but when I go to install the driver it says the driver has already been installed etc. ALso I tried to use the webbrowser config tool but I dont know my username? I know my passsword cause I set it in CUPS but not my user
[04:18] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, then, sudo cp sources.list sources.list.original  (this file tells ubuntu where to look for packages, we want to save a copy of what you already have)
[04:19] <terabyte> hello guys...
[04:19] <ubuntu-newbie> ubuntu@ubuntu:/etc/apt$ sudo cp sources.list sources.list.original
[04:19] <ubuntu-newbie> ubuntu@ubuntu:/etc/apt$
[04:19] <Xcerca> coz whats breezy ?
[04:19] <lekvar> I'm interested in building up a less bloated install from "server" for a wimpy machine I'm stuck on...  I like some parts of what the default desktop install gives but don't think I need them all.
[04:19] <terabyte> i have a problem on installing ubuntu on my pc
[04:19] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, ok, now, sudo gedit sources.list
[04:19] <terabyte> can yah help me??
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  cuop's web interface is disabled i think by default. you have to use the gnome cups tool.
[04:20] <lekvar> varsendagger: are you up to the same thing as I just said?
[04:20] <medgno> are they any packages in backports yet?
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  if you got the driver isntalled - you may need to restart the cups service
[04:20] <StDellis> dr_willis is that under System>Admin>printers? or somewhere else
[04:20] <terabyte> hey... can yah help me guys??
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[04:20] <coz> Xcerca here is the link to download Automatix   http://rapidshare.de/files/7653166/automatix-breezy_v2.8.tar.gz.html
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  thats the place.
[04:20] <StDellis> dr_willis how do I do that
[04:20] <intelikey> psusi or the time 10 1mhz cycles take ?
[04:20] <Dr_Willis>  sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart
[04:20] <nickrud> StDellis, you can enable the web interface by doing sudo adduser cupsys shadow , and sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[04:20] <ubuntu-newbie> gedit:20153): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[04:20] <ubuntu-newbie> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[04:20] <ubuntu-newbie> nickrud, and the file is empty
[04:20] <terabyte> err.... guys??
[04:20] <psusi> 1 ms = 1000 us right?
[04:21] <tritium> psusi, yes
[04:21] <intelikey> yep
[04:21] <terabyte> help plzzz
[04:21] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, are you sure typed sources.list correctly?
[04:21] <ubuntu-newbie> i pasted it from you
[04:21] <ubuntu-newbie> hold on
[04:21] <terabyte> can someone help me?? plz??
[04:21] <ubuntu-newbie> let me do the commands one more time
[04:22] <darksoul> !apt
[04:22] <ubotu> I guess apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[04:22] <ubuntu-newbie> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # sudo cp sources.list sources.list.original
[04:22] <ubuntu-newbie> cp: cannot stat `sources.list': No such file or directory
[04:22] <ubuntu-newbie> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu #
[04:22] <coz> Whats up terabyte
[04:22] <darksoul> !atp
[04:22] <ubotu> I don't know, darksoul
[04:22] <ubuntu-newbie> that's the first error i got
[04:22] <StDellis> nickrud I did that but it still asks me for a username and pass and it says I'm wrong everything I try
[04:22] <intelikey> terabyte describe the install problem
[04:22] <darksoul> !ati
[04:22] <ubotu> I heard ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[04:22] <psusi> time to go find out if that fixed it... brb
[04:22] <Nihil85> nickrud, i have the same cups proble. it says that i'm not allowed to do administrative tasks.
[04:22] <terabyte> uhm.. my pc crashes when i try to configure ze time zone
[04:22] <terabyte> in the installation
[04:22] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, StDellis if you are part of the lpadmin group, your username and normal password should work
[04:23] <ubuntu-newbie> what?
[04:23] <terabyte> ??
[04:23] <Nihil85> nickrud, how can i be part of the lpadmin group?
[04:23] <jah_raztah> what is the repository for breezy backports, like deb http://archine.ubuntu.com /breezy blah blah
[04:23] <StDellis> nickrud ahhh yes thank you
[04:23] <terabyte> hello??
[04:23] <shadeofgrey> okay guys
[04:23] <terabyte> cn someone help me??
[04:23] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, first, type exit in the terminal, you don't want to be root
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[04:24] <ubuntu-newbie> ok i logged out, now what
[04:24] <nickrud> Nihil85, type groups in a terminal, it should tell you what groups you are in
[04:24] <tritium> terabyte, please don't flood the channel with junk
[04:24] <terabyte> yep...
[04:24] <terabyte> im trying to attrct attention coz i hav a prob??
[04:24] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, are you working in a terminal on your desktop?
[04:24] <tritium> terabyte, well, don't
[04:24] <ubuntu-newbie> yup
[04:24] <terabyte> OK
[04:25] <Nihil85> nihil@Olidata:~$ groups
[04:25] <Nihil85> nihil adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[04:25] <terabyte> then, cud some1 help me??
[04:25] <Nihil85> nickrud, but i still can't enter the administrative task
[04:25] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, cd /etc/apt/
[04:26] <BugZapper> i have hade the same probs with cups
[04:26] <nickrud> Nihil85, did you do sudo adduser cupsys shadow , then sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart ?
[04:26] <ubuntu-newbie> nickrud allright im in the file
[04:26] <ubuntu-newbie> what to edit
[04:26] <Nihil85> nickrud, no
[04:26] <Nihil85> i will do
[04:26] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, look for every line that has universe in it, and add multiverse to the end
[04:26] <Razor-X> terabyte: wait until someone can help you, if you wait more than 10 minutes, repost the question
[04:26] <Razor-X> but that's all
[04:27] <Razor-X> hold on, I need to flush my logs
[04:27] <ubuntu-newbie> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[04:27] <ubuntu-newbie> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[04:27] <ubuntu-newbie> what do i change here for example?
[04:27] <Nihil85> nickrud, the problem remains the same
[04:27] <terabyte> guys... plz, plz.... Help.... me....
[04:27] <intelikey> terabyte i failed to find anything on that in the wiki's and have never experanced it, so you may need to file a bug
[04:27] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie,  ..... universe multiverse
[04:27] <tritium> terabyte, please wait a while, and ask again later
[04:27] <Nihil85> Unauthorized
[04:27] <terabyte> ok...
[04:27] <Nihil85> Administrative commands are disabled in the web interface for security reasons. Please use the GNOME CUPS manager (System > Administration > Printing).
[04:28] <nickrud> Nihil85, do groups in a terminal, see if you're in the lpadmin group
[04:28] <ubuntu-newbie> nickrud, ok done
[04:28] <terabyte> btw... the md5sum is correct...
[04:28] <Nihil85> nickrud, i've done it a moment ago and i posted here the result: i'm in the lpadmin group
[04:28] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, now, save the file, and in the terminal, sudo apt-get update
[04:28] <Nihil85> nihil adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[04:28] <XRange> which program that calls for password in "System, Admin, Networking"  password for dialog
[04:28] <nickrud> Nihil85, sorry, thought that was the other guy. A sec, please
[04:29] <ubuntu-newbie> the apt- command is amazing
[04:29] <ubuntu-newbie> ok updating
[04:29] <ubuntu-newbie> done
[04:29] <bimberi> XRange: gksudo
[04:29] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, after the update, you should be able to get the multiverse plugins
[04:29] <ubuntu-newbie> Fetched 157kB in 20s (7782B/s)
[04:29] <ubuntu-newbie> Reading package lists... Done
[04:29] <ubuntu-newbie> ubuntu@ubuntu:/etc/apt$
[04:29] <intelikey> terabyte some bios's have anti-virus settings  you might check yours and if so disable it until after the install ???
[04:29] <pavelich> gey all
[04:29] <pavelich> hey
[04:29] <war-totem> can someone tell me how to get a program like guatu to print out a log?  it crashes as soon as i load it up and would like to find out why
[04:30] <pavelich> it was my second day working at radio shack and i think i totally saw the kid i close with steal
[04:30] <intelikey> terabyte that 'MIGHT' help....   idk
[04:30] <Nihil85> nickrud, wait, wait! changing the chmod of the cupsys.conf to my group (nihil) i solve the problem!!!
[04:30] <pavelich> i have to tell right?
[04:30] <nickrud> Nihil85, try groups cupsys, make sure that it's part of the shadow group
[04:30] <pavelich> manager?
[04:30] <nickrud> Nihil85, not a good solution
[04:30] <pavelich> so i dont get blamed?
[04:30] <pavelich> ahah anyone know what i should do?
[04:31] <war-totem> anyone?
[04:31] <Nihil85> nickrud, yes, it's a part of it
[04:31] <ubuntu-newbie> nickrud, how can i fix this
[04:31] <ubuntu-newbie> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:31] <ubuntu-newbie>   kopete: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.4.0) but it is not going to be installed
[04:31] <ubuntu-newbie>           Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3) but it is not installable
[04:31] <ubuntu-newbie> E: Broken packages
[04:31] <ubuntu-newbie> and alot of other files are outdated
[04:31] <ubuntu-newbie> i think outdated because of the >=
[04:31] <XRange> bimberi: then thats app that been hanging on dapper
[04:31] <ubuntu-newbie> bigger or equal to
[04:32] <jah_raztah> is there anything new in the backports
[04:32] <ubuntu-newbie> and what's up with the, it is not going to be installed
[04:32] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, I don't have hoary, so I can't check those dependencies. But, I'd guess that you have some backports repositories enabled
[04:32] <XRange> have use "ctrl, alt, backspace" to get controll again
[04:33] <ubuntu-newbie> um
[04:33] <ubuntu-newbie> can you tell me how to get breezy
[04:33] <ubuntu-newbie> ?
[04:33] <ubuntu-newbie> its the new version of ubuntu right?
[04:33] <ubuntu-newbie> its like an upgrade for hoary i guess no?
[04:33] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list , and change all the hoary to breezy
[04:34] <lekvar> then sudo apt-get update
[04:34] <lekvar> then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (I think)
[04:34] <nickrud> !tell ubuntu-newbie about breezyupgrade
[04:34] <ubuntu-newbie> in the universe line?
[04:34] <medgno> lekvar, that's right
[04:34] <Megiddo> I still can't get my mail to work, I can send but not receive, I'm using postfix w/webmin
[04:34] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, did you get that message about upgrading?
[04:34] <lekvar> I know all this in Debian but I'm not used to Ubuntu enough to trust myself to be correct.
[04:34] <Megiddo> I'm not getting any errors sending email to my server...
[04:35] <nickrud> lekvar, all the skills transfer
[04:35] <Madpilot> ubuntu-newbie: you need to change all the repos to Breezy, not just universe
[04:35] <synapsis_> i find the icon's too big in ubuntu, is there a way to make their a smaller set?
[04:35] <ubuntu-newbie> yea
[04:35] <lekvar> nickrud: do you know of info on how ubuntu is put together differently?
[04:35] <Chris_Tucker> can anyone help me set up a command to run at a specific time?
[04:36] <lekvar> I just tried it out on a lark and I've started to get sucked in.  This is the first time I've been able to tolerate a gnome desktop.
[04:36] <Megiddo> I still can't get my mail to work, I can send but not receive, I'm using postfix w/webmin. I'm not getting any errors trying to send email from off-site
[04:36] <inva|id> Chris_Tucker: man cron
[04:36] <medgno> synapsis_, you can change the default sizes in the file management preferences. If you want icons that are clear at those smaller sizes, gperfection2 is a good choice
[04:36] <intelikey> Chris_Tucker at or chron
[04:36] <ubuntu-newbie> allright done
[04:36] <ubuntu-newbie> and updating
[04:36] <ubuntu-newbie> will it take alot of time?
[04:36] <mr-russ> is there a iptables init script?
[04:36] <bimberi> XRange: that's unusual, does "gksudo ls" work from a terminal?
[04:36] <Madpilot> ubuntu-newbie: it's probably going to download several hundred Mb of stuff...
[04:37] <Megiddo> I still can't get my mail to work, I can send but not receive, I'm using postfix w/webmin. I'm not getting any errors trying to send email from off-site
[04:37] <nickrud> lekvar, not really. It's architecture is essentially debian in my experience; it's just the surface details that are different. Sort of like not updating unstable for a month or two, and adjusting. About that much work :)
[04:37] <ubuntu-newbie> and after that
[04:37] <ubuntu-newbie> everything should work?
[04:37] <ubuntu-newbie> like this
[04:37] <synapsis_> medgno: thanks so much
[04:37] <ubuntu-newbie> would it be fixed?
[04:37] <intelikey> mr-russ web search for 'quicktables'  it will help you set up one.
[04:37] <ubuntu-newbie> epends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.4.0) but it is not going to be installed
[04:37] <ubuntu-newbie>           Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3) but it is not installable
[04:37] <ubuntu-newbie> E: Broken packages
[04:37] <Chris_Tucker> thought cron was only in kde
[04:37] <inva|id> Chris_Tucker: cron is a common unix tool
[04:37] <Madpilot> ubuntu-newbie: it should be, yeah
[04:38] <XRange> bimberi: i sudo from terminal and did ifup eth2 and all was fine like that
[04:38] <ubuntu-newbie> okay cool
[04:38] <Chris_Tucker> w/e i have never been able to get it working
[04:38] <bimberi> XRange: yeah, but what about gksudo?
[04:38] <Madpilot> ubuntu-newbie: in fact, that package - libqt3c102-mt - I know is in Breezy...
[04:38] <mr-russ> intelikey: I don't want a ruleset, I want an init script that starts and stops my script.
[04:38] <lekvar> nickrud: I'm trying to ascertain either what to strip out from a full install, or what to add IN from a server install, to get it speedier on a 433 celeron...  maybe dump nautilus, i don't care about that much
[04:38] <XRange> let me try
[04:38] <lekvar> nickrud: though as my friends say "drink the gnome koolaid!"
[04:39] <nickrud> lekvar, use xubuntu. I had a celeron 466, and gnome has just simply gotten to big for that size of machine
[04:39] <synapsis_> medgno: gperfection2 is something i can apt-get ?
[04:39] <lekvar> what's xubuntu?
[04:39] <nickrud> lekvar, xfce
[04:39] <medgno> synapsis_, you should be able to. it's icon-theme-gperfection2, I think.
[04:39] <tritium> !xubuntu
[04:39] <ubotu> I guess xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[04:39] <XRange> cisco@sunshine:~$ gksudo network-admin
[04:39] <XRange> ** (gksudo:11179): WARNING **: Lock taken by pid: 8935. Exiting.
[04:40] <ubuntu-newbie> Madpilot allright i hope it works
[04:40] <lekvar> oh that.  i've been happy with pwm, pekwm, fluxbox...
[04:40] <lekvar> actually for a mini window manager, jwm is actually quite hospitable too
[04:40] <bimberi> XRange: aha, a rogue process
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> "Matchbox" is fun to mess with for  tiny window manager.
[04:40] <Vinicius_Ubuntu> hi... I need help to install my Creative Sound Blaster AWE 32 ISA Card... Anyone help me?
[04:40] <intelikey> mr-russ write one.      if you use 'sh ~/myscript-for-iptables.sh '   then put that line in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[04:40] <ecobuntu> greetings ubunters!
[04:40] <ubuntu-newbie> I need a cigarette, i'll brb people
[04:40] <ubuntu-newbie> Linux rules.
[04:41] <ecobuntu> is anyone running dapper?
[04:41] <synapsis_> medgno: how can i verify that
[04:41] <Xyc0> w00t
[04:41] <nickrud> well, I've been a gnome guy since 1.0.56. I've tried some others, but it sucks me back in.
[04:41] <darksoul> why is the doom 3 demo so freekin laggy..
[04:41] <XRange> that was from where i first booted and try run  gksudo network-admin
[04:41] <Razor-X> darksoul: because it's Doom 3 :P
[04:41] <ubuntu-newbie> um
[04:41] <ecobuntu> !drake
[04:41] <ubotu> [drake]  a dragon
[04:41] <DShepherd> hey
[04:41] <ecobuntu> it's a lie!
[04:41] <lekvar> perhaps It might make sense to install xubuntu as an easier position from which to migrate to one of the other non-gnomecentric window managers
[04:41] <darksoul> or it could be couse i have 384mb ram
[04:41] <medgno> synapsis_, the package name is gnome-icon-theme-gperfection2. I checked by searching in synaptic
[04:42] <darksoul> when are they going to come out with a better desktop
[04:42] <bimberi> nickrud: how much RAM with the Celeron 466?
[04:42] <nickrud> lekvar, they all coexist. I run a pretty stock ubuntu for various reasons; you can customize it as much as any other debian box
[04:42] <lekvar> darksoul: i've got that too so the default gnome desktop is clunky but basicly usable.  i just like a sharply responsive system
[04:42] <darksoul> i mean gnomes much more better then kde..but i want some eyecandy to lol
[04:42] <nickrud> bimberi, it maxed out at 256M.
[04:42] <ubuntu-newbie> Madpilot
[04:42] <ubuntu-newbie> and nickrud
[04:43] <ubuntu-newbie> it said done
[04:43] <ubuntu-newbie> but its still hoary
[04:43] <ubuntu-newbie> LSB Version:    n/a
[04:43] <ubuntu-newbie> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[04:43] <ubuntu-newbie> Description:    Ubuntu (The Hoary Hedgehog Release)
[04:43] <ubuntu-newbie> Release:        5.04
[04:43] <pavelich> he goes to me, we had a power outage a few weeks ago and had to open up 2 maglights, so i will change the inventory on the pos to store usage, and then he is walking around with his jacket half on and goes into the back room right before he sets the alarm
[04:43] <pavelich> .like dude if you had a power outage you would open the cheap led flash lights, not the mag lights
[04:43] <pavelich>  right?
[04:43] <pavelich> especially two of them cuz mag lights are like 50 bucks or so
[04:43] <ubuntu-newbie> Codename:       hoary
[04:43] <XRange> bimberi: i just got done doing a update and upgrade I believe i'll reboot and see if that little problem with gksudo "command" is fixed
[04:43] <lekvar> "englightenmt" used to be the thing for uber eyecandy on X
[04:43] <thrice`> ubuntu-newbie: stop
[04:43] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, upgrading does not take that little time
[04:43] <pavelich> ahah anyway
[04:43] <bimberi> nickrud: ah, i'm able to use 384M (I have a Celeron 466 too) and it is "bearable" but not swift :)
[04:43] <bimberi> XRange: k, good luck :)
[04:43] <ubuntu-newbie> nickrud well its done :s
[04:44] <nickrud> bimberi, I was about to ask lekvar if he had a gig or so, maybe then
[04:44] <darksoul> well i would use my good computer with a 3.0 amd prosseser...its supposed to be 64bit..but it doesnt have the extentions..with 1024mb ram..but the damn guis wont complie right..hmm maby ill try breezy and see if that works
[04:44] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, did you do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade after sudo apt-get update after changing all the hoary to breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[04:45] <_smd_> I am going to stop touching my computer as i keep on breaking it
[04:45] <lekvar> _smd_: that's how you learn :)
[04:46] <ubuntu-newbie> lol no
[04:46] <bimberi> _smd_: betcha can't, you're addicted to installing stuff :)
[04:46] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, so, do that :)
[04:46] <darksoul> _smb_: never give up, my best advice is to burn a new cd with ubuntu breezy...its much better then dist-updates, couse i had 2 reinstalls just dist..with cd it works fine
[04:46] <ubuntu-newbie> allright
[04:46] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, time for my cig break ;)
[04:46] <_smd_> No, i went to go make my res smaller, and now i have  800-600, but now i cannot make it to 1280*1024
[04:46] <ubuntu-newbie> yea im out too for that cig
[04:46] <ubuntu-newbie> ;)
[04:46] <ubuntu-newbie> brb
[04:47] <intelikey> !cig
[04:47] <ubotu> intelikey: I don't know
[04:47] <darksoul> _smb_: has nothing to do with control atm..you sould go look in your 3d config file and see if the support is on it
[04:47] <darksoul> _smb_: is your 3d card ati?
[04:47] <bimberi> !cigarette
[04:47] <ubotu> It's bad to smoke, but bimberi needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)
[04:47] <_smd_> darksoul: this guy I know said he was going to come re-install it sometime soon..
[04:47] <bimberi> ewww, no thanks :P
[04:48] <darksoul> _smb: whatever...but do you have a ati 3d card?
[04:48] <_smd_>  darksoul: I do not know what that is
[04:48] <darksoul> _smb_: ............ you dont know what a 3d card is...or ati?
[04:48] <_smd_>  darksoul: not a clue, sorry
[04:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> can we get a petition together to whack the crack head webmasters in the head who made bananarepublic.com ?
[04:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> http://bananarepublic.com/  <--
[04:50] <varsendagger> anyn fluxboxers?
[04:50] <darksoul> _smb: then maby linux is not for you, try windows, but seriously, if you want linux you need to learn all of that..since your basicly going to run into problems with all of this...like your res now, and you have to handcode it mostly...now on windows its easy...but you wont learn shit about your computer on windows...and only get tons of spyware/hacks/tons of shit
[04:50] <darksoul> wow...to long of a post sorry
[04:50] <montemayor> does anybody knows how to change folder permissions?
[04:51] <nickrud> bimberi :)
[04:51] <Grug> hey guys
[04:51] <Grug> just want to say hi :)
[04:51] <bimberi> nickrud: :)
[04:52] <intelikey> montemayor 'sudo chmod ### folder '
[04:52] <Nihil> nickrud, now the HPLIP manager tell me that i have to refresh devices before tha printer appears on the HP devices manager. i hitted F6, but nothing happnes
[04:52] <Astxist> lo Grug
[04:52] <darksoul> _smb_: but if you want to play games on linux or anything like that you _have_ to know what a 3d card is and what the name is..you might want to look into that or go buy one lol
[04:52] <intelikey> montemayor 'man chmod ' for more info.
[04:52] <darksoul> well im off see you guys/woman later!
[04:52] <nickrud> Nihil, which printer?
[04:52] <lekvar> *decides to give xubuntu a shot... nothing much to lose*
[04:52] <_smd_>  darksoul: me play games... what a waste of time.
[04:52] <Astxist> laters darksoul
[04:52] <Grug> dubuntu?
[04:52] <Grug> err
[04:53] <Grug> xubuntu?
[04:53] <varsendagger> what would dubuntu be?
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> XFCE-Ubuntu
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> :P
[04:53] <nickrud> !xubuntu
[04:53] <ubotu> I heard xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[04:53] <Nihil> i printed successfully a test page with CUPS, but i still can't load the HPlip manager for my PSC1510 all in one
[04:53] <ttrocal> Hello, is it possible to add the BadRAM patch to my Ubuntu machine without recompiling a custom kernel?  Though an apt-get, perhaps?
[04:53] <Grug> ahh
[04:53] <crimsun> ttrocal: no.
[04:53] <varsendagger> xubuntu is pretty nice
[04:53] <Grug> is xfce nicer than gnome?
[04:53] <nickrud> Nihil, ahah! I just bought a 1510, but haven't tried the hplip manager. what's the command?
[04:53] <Nihil> HPlip toolbox told me that i have to refresh... but i don't know how... it told me to hit F6, i've done it but nothing happens
[04:53] <intelikey> fubuntu ?
[04:54] <lekvar> I want wmxuntu... wmx is sweet
[04:54] <Nihil> what's the command for what?
[04:54] <ttrocal> crimsun: Damn.  So waht's the best way to go about that?  I've never had to compile a kernel before.  Any tools or how-tos you would reccomend?
[04:54] <Nihil> hplip is the driver instead of hpjips to use in an unique software both scanner and printer like windows
[04:55] <nickrud> Nihil, to get to the manager, I've got the printer working and all, just didn't know there was some kind of manager for the hplip stuff
[04:55] <crimsun> ttrocal: the documentation for make-kpkg, which is in the 'kernel-package' package
[04:55] <lekvar> varsendagger: if you like experimenting with window managers try "wmii"... that's a real weird one :)
[04:55] <Talisker> err... how do I get my system to run a certain bash script when I log in?
[04:55] <ttrocal> crimsun: Alright, I'll look into that.  Thank you.
[04:55] <varsendagger> what's it like?
[04:56] <Vinicius_Ubuntu> Breezy not suport ISA cards?
[04:56] <Vinicius_Ubuntu> vinicius@ubuntu:~$ dmesg | grep Creative
[04:56] <Vinicius_Ubuntu> [ 3888.541521]  sb: PnP: Found Card Named = "Creative SB32 PnP", Card PnP id = CTL0044, Device PnP id = CTL0031
[04:56] <intelikey> any chance of loading a 2.4 kernel into ub ?
[04:56] <lekvar> varsendagger: it's from the anti-gnome auto-tiling style camp; is keyboard-centric, has titlebar tab functionality all over the place, etc
[04:56] <Xenguy> Talisker: that can be configured in Gnome via menus
[04:56] <nickrud> Talisker, if you use gnome, you can call it by putting it in ~/.gnomerc
[04:56] <Nihil> nickrud, what can i do?
[04:57] <crimsun> intelikey: if you do it on your own, you'll need to add a bunch of 2.4-specific tools
[04:57] <lekvar> varsendagger: it's got a little command minibuffer at the bottom similar to emacs, vi, etc
[04:57] <Talisker> and is there a way to do so NOT using gnome?
[04:57] <lekvar> biab
[04:57] <nickrud> Nihil, a sec, I got someone in the office, brb
[04:57] <intelikey> crimsun any idea why ub doesn't offer any 2.4 kernels ?
[04:58] <varsendagger> Talisker, do you still want gnome?
[04:58] <crimsun> intelikey: because it's not practical to support 2.4 for our infrastructure.
[04:58] <intelikey> did ub just start up about the time 2.6 came out ?
[04:59] <Talisker> I do not use gnome
[04:59] <jah_raztah> i keep getting an error
[04:59] <Xenguy> Talisker: what do you use, kde?
[04:59] <Talisker> nope
[04:59] <Talisker> ion
[04:59] <jah_raztah> with gdm when i try to login into xfce with gdm
[04:59] <Talisker> I do not have a desktop
[04:59] <_smd_> got my res fixed
[05:00] <Talisker> only a wm
[05:00] <jah_raztah> it says xfce cannot acces soemthing
[05:00] <varsendagger> Talisker, what kind of script?
[05:00] <Xenguy> Talisker: I'm using xfce4 ATM, and it has it's own mechanism (Autostart); perhaps ion has something similar?
[05:00] <Talisker> a simple bash script that defines some stuff, and starts my applications with certain flags and kludges
[05:00] <varsendagger> Talisker, nevermind i don't know that i'm talking aobut
[05:01] <Talisker> Xenguy, the whole philosophy behind ion is that it's not a desktop enviorment, thus it has no function that's supposed to do stuff that's not a window menager's job
[05:01] <Talisker> there should be an init script per user
[05:01] <Xenguy> Talisker: maybe you can call it through .xsession ?  I'm really not sure if not
[05:01] <Xenguy> er, ~/.xsession
[05:02] <Talisker> .xsession, is it located at ~/.xsession?
[05:02] <intelikey> Talisker it will be 'ion' specific, the docs for ion should help you.
[05:02] <Talisker> no, it's not supposed to be ion specific
[05:02] <Xenguy> Talisker: ^^
[05:02] <calamari> hi
[05:02] <Talisker> it's supposed to be run as I login
[05:02] <Talisker> regardless of the WM I'm using
[05:02] <Xenguy> Talisker: OK, try ~/.xsession then (my best guess)
[05:03] <intelikey> then look into $HOME/.Xsession
[05:03] <Talisker> k
[05:03] <intelikey> or $HOME/.wmrc
[05:03] <Talisker> well, that file exist
[05:03] <Xenguy> intelikey: what is the difference (yep, saw the different case :-) ?
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> or make a custom gdm entry that starts  your own script
[05:03] <Talisker> and it has a single line, that's supposed to set my xkb map
[05:04] <ubuntu-newbie> allright
[05:04] <nickrud> Nihil, you still here?
[05:04] <Talisker> but alas, it does'nt, I need to do that manually everytime I log in
[05:04] <Nihil> yes nickrud
[05:04] <ubuntu-newbie> nickrud
[05:04] <ubuntu-newbie> its done
[05:04] <Nihil> nickrud, can we talk in private?
[05:04] <ubuntu-newbie> the dist-update
[05:04] <ubuntu-newbie> upgrade sorry
[05:04] <intelikey> Xenguy xfree and xorg i think.
[05:04] <Xenguy> intelikey: ahh
[05:04] <nickrud> Nihil, no, I'm also helping ubuntu-newbie at the moment :)
[05:04] <Talisker> ~/.wmrc does'nt even exist
[05:04] <Nihil> ok nickrud
[05:04] <ubuntu-newbie> still, nothing works and its still hoary
[05:05] <nickrud> Nihil, try sudo /etc/init.d/hplip restart, and check again
[05:05] <intelikey> Talisker check for a man page on it anyway
[05:05] <Talisker> on what, xsession?
[05:05] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, go to paste.ubuntu.nl, and paste your sources.list there, and give me the link
[05:05] <intelikey> .wmrc
[05:06] <ubuntu-newbie> okkai
[05:06] <Nihil> nihil@Olidata:~$ /etc/init.d/hplip restart
[05:06] <Nihil> Stopping hpiod: /etc/init.d/hplip: line 60: kill: (8687) - Operation not permitted
[05:06] <Nihil> rm: remove write-protected regular file `/var/run/hpiod.pid'?
[05:06] <ubuntu-newbie> nickrud the site couldnt be found
[05:06] <nickrud> Nihil, sorry, you need to do sudo /etc/init.d/hplip restart
[05:06] <Nihil> nickrud, i've done this
[05:06] <nickrud> Use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl ubuntu-newbie
[05:07] <Nihil> ah... i've forgotten sudo
[05:07] <nickrud> Nihil, does your printer print from applications? if so, maybe the problem is the hp manager. by the way, what's the command for that?
[05:08] <lekvar> xubuntu looks decent
[05:08] <intelikey> i should either install the man-db or make up my mind if i'm gonna keep this ubuntu installed, one or the other.
[05:08] <Nihil> my printer prints from all the programs and scan from all the programs normally
[05:08] <nickrud> Nihil, then, what's the problem ;)
[05:08] <timcz> I have had an issue today trying to get on the ubuntu forums.  Each time I try to connect it times out.  The same is happening for google.  This happens with firefox and opera, on ubuntu and suse.  It looks like I can get to any other site I have bookmarked, including the ubuntu home page, any of the other languaged forums.  Any ideas on why this would be happening?
[05:08] <ubuntu-newbie> nickrud http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4551
[05:08] <ubuntu-newbie> uh sorry go here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4551
[05:08] <intelikey> i'd keep it.  but i can't seem to find a single redeeming quality about it.
[05:09] <Nihil> nickrude, i cannot tell the printer how much ink use, the quality of the print, the quality of the scan, ecc ecc ecc... these are all things that the HP manager does
[05:10] <pavelich> keep ubuntu
[05:10] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, I meant, paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:10] <Nihil> nickrude, i've discovered the problem... i was using only a USB printer, not a HP-USB printer that was at the end of the list of 10000 possibilities
[05:10] <intelikey> pavelich why ?
[05:10] <ubuntu-newbie> nickrud oh okay
[05:10] <nickrud> Nihil, oookkk
[05:10] <Nihil> thansk nickrud
[05:10] <nickrud> Nihil, well, not that I did much
[05:11] <Xcerca> hey,   i could either install Mandrake or Fedora ?  has anybody ever tried either of those ?
[05:11] <ubuntu-newbie> allright nickrud, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4552
[05:11] <Xcerca> i've narrowed it down to those....
[05:11] <intelikey> Xcerca yes
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> Xcerca,  Yes you could.. and Yes  lots of people have used them..
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:11] <pavelich> intelikey: well i have only completly moved over to linux for two days, but the main reason i am staying is i use half the ram doing everything i need to do, 136, compared to 361
[05:11] <Xcerca> do either provide 64 bit support ?
[05:12] <pavelich> in xp
[05:12] <Xyc0> xp?
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> about all the main stream disrto maker have 64bit support these days
[05:12] <Xyc0> experience?
[05:12] <pavelich> intelikey: but i am a noob  and its all dependent on what you need for yourself obviously
[05:12] <intelikey> pavelich :)   my removing ubuntu will not mean installing M$-windows  lol
[05:12] <Xcerca> what is a good page to compare the distros side by side ?
[05:12] <Grug> pretending you don't know about XP won't make it go away :)
[05:13] <pavelich> intelikey: well thats good news
[05:13] <pavelich> lol
[05:13] <Nihil85> nickrud, if you didn't so much, i have another insoluted problem for you!!!!
[05:13] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, on line 1, add a # to the beginning of the line, and on lines 5 & 6, remove the # and change hoary to breezy, and update and dist-upgrade again
[05:13] <pavelich> really the only other linux disto i have used was mandrake, and i prefer this tenfold
[05:14] <nickrud> Nihil85, I love doing nothing :)
[05:14] <DShepherd> pavelich: why?
[05:14] <pavelich> but that was like 2 years ago
[05:14] <pavelich> i think, lol
[05:14] <Xyc0> I found an old creative IR remote, what project can help me use that to change songs in BMP or VLC etc
[05:14] <Nihil85> nickrud, i want to save you from yourself asking you another question: How can i make a wireless lan between two ubuntu pc?
[05:14] <intelikey> pavelich i'm really seriously considering paying the $35 to get the 9 debian cd's mailed to me.  because dialup is no way to install things....
[05:15] <ubuntu-newbie> do i do an apt-get update before?
[05:15] <Xcerca> i just can't get my video resolution set up or my sound card,   so i was going to try another distro cuz i don't have the time to sit down and figure everything out
[05:15] <nickrud> Nihil85, ah, networking: I touch that not, no offence.
[05:15] <Nihil85> nickrud, i have followed many how-to, guides, people, ecc ecc ecc
[05:15] <pavelich> oooo dialup
[05:15] <Nihil85> nickrud, don't worry
[05:15] <Xcerca> anybody in here tried Fedora Core ?
[05:15] <crimsun> Xyc0: vlc has support for lirc, see the docs on videolan.org/vlc/
[05:15] <nickrud> Nihil85, I haven't done near enough of that to be able to even help myself :)
[05:16] <ubuntu-newbie> nickrud so
[05:16] <ubuntu-newbie> ?
[05:16] <Xyc0> God, you can take my health, you can take my childeren, but please dont take my boradband
[05:16] <DokJones> anyone had luck getting the broadcom 4306 wireless nic to work in ubuntu 5.10?
[05:16] <ubuntu-newbie> do i do an apt-get update before the dist-upgrade ?
[05:16] <intelikey> Xcerca fc4 no but eariler rh releases yes.
[05:16] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, yes
[05:16] <DokJones> trying to get ndiswrapper to install but having problems
[05:16] <Nihil85> Hi everyone!! can anyone give a hand to a poor ubuntu user that have followed any possible howto and guide to make a wireless lan? Pleeeaaseeeee
[05:16] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, paste your new one first, though.
[05:17] <nickrud> I'll take a quick look at it
[05:17] <Xcerca> anybody in here have a sound blaster card ?
[05:17] <easel> can anyone help me get my samba talking to windows properly
[05:17] <Xcerca> samba?   windows?    wrong chat room buddy
[05:18] <easel> Xcerca, its the ubuntu end that aint working
[05:18] <ubuntu-newbie> nickrud ?
[05:18] <ubuntu-newbie> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[05:18] <ubuntu-newbie>   libssl0.9.7 librpm4 rpm wget sudo fetchmail libgda2-common libgda2-3 libcurl3
[05:18] <ubuntu-newbie> Install these packages without verification [y/N] ?
[05:18] <Xcerca> gottcha
[05:18] <Monkeyb> hello
[05:18] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, like I said, post your new sources.ist first
[05:18] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, like I said, post your new sources.list first
[05:18] <Xyc0> ubuntu-newbie: please use pastebin
[05:18] <ubuntu-newbie> ok ok sorry
[05:18] <Monkeyb> why cant i run make?
[05:18] <ubuntu-newbie> nickrud my new sources.list is like you said
[05:19] <intelikey> Monkeyb 'sudo apt-get install build-essential '
[05:19] <pavelich> debian reminds me of osx
[05:19] <bimberi> Monkeyb: install build-essential (includes make)
[05:19] <Monkeyb> i cant use apt get because i dont have internet
[05:19] <nickrud> well, authentication is important, I'd like to check your list over
[05:19] <Xcerca> has anybody installed a Sound Blaster card successfully ?
[05:19] <Monkeyb> well i need to use make to try to get my wireless to work
[05:19] <ubuntu-newbie> ok
[05:19] <intelikey> Monkeyb cause you don't have a compiler yet
[05:19] <bimberi> Monkeyb: the dependencies should be on the CD
[05:20] <Monkeyb> so type install build-essential ? as root
[05:20] <Monkeyb> ?
[05:20] <ubuntu-newbie> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4553
[05:20] <kbrosnan> I needt to change my swap drive, I had a drive fail.
[05:20] <kbrosnan> what config files have that info?
[05:20] <bimberi> Monkeyb: yep (sudo takes care of the root part)
[05:20] <Nihil85> Hi everyone!! can anyone give a hand to a poor ubuntu user that have followed any possible howto and guide to make a wireless lan? Pleeeaaseeeee
[05:20] <nickrud> crimsun, off hand, do you know of a situation where ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1 might be needed to get flash player working? I can't seem to find any references to it on the net
[05:20] <intelikey> Monkeyb 'sudo apt-get install build-essential '   or   'apt-get install build-essential ' as root
[05:21] <Monkeyb> and it will work without an internet connection?
[05:21] <crimsun> nickrud: you don't need that if you aoss firefox
[05:21] <bimberi> kbrooks: /etc/fstab (you will need to run mkswap on the device too)
[05:21] <intelikey> try it Monkeyb
[05:21] <Monkeyb> cool, thanks
[05:22] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, one more thing: go through the list, and remove all of the "us." ; us people seem to get the short end of the stick sometimes.
[05:22] <kbrosnan> yeah it is already formatted for linux swap,  fstab makes sene should have checked there first
[05:23] <ubuntu-newbie> nickrud, allright now what
[05:24] <Nihil85> I have a problem: i can't access the shared folder. why i cannot do this? the shared folder window crashes and i have to kill it. how can i fix this problem?
[05:24] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, sudo apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:24] <ubuntu-newbie> okay
[05:24] <ubuntu-newbie> is it more then 100 megs?
[05:25] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, I would hope so :)
[05:25] <ubuntu-newbie> :P ok
[05:25] <ubuntu-newbie> my connection is kinda slow .. so
[05:25] <DShepherd> where can I get the static version of opera?
[05:25] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, been there, it's not much fun.
[05:26] <ubuntu-newbie> yea
[05:26] <ubuntu-newbie> :S
[05:26] <ubuntu-newbie> man its 20k/sec
[05:26] <ubuntu-newbie> :P
[05:26] <Nihil85> can anyone give a hand to a poor ubuntu user that have followed any possible howto and guide to make a wireless lan? Pleeeaaseeeee
[05:26] <ubuntu-newbie> i dont know why im paying 100$ / mo for that kinda bullshit
[05:27] <intelikey> ok i'm going to go break my system now.   good night averybody.
[05:28] <Xcerca> anybody know how to set up a sound blaster card ?
[05:28] <dreamping> /srv,/debootstrap,/opt what are the usage of these dir?
[05:28] <snowowl> Can someone tell me if KDE is open source and free as in freedom
[05:29] <Xenguy> snowowl: yes
[05:29] <Xenguy> snowowl: there were some issues in the past, but it's all good now
[05:29] <ubuntu-newbie> Need to get 399MB of archives.
[05:30] <ubuntu-newbie> so its 400 megs???
[05:30] <kbrosnan> bimberi: thanks, if you have a firefox or mozilla ? just look me up at the mozilla irc server.
[05:30] <Xcerca> who has a sound card ?
[05:30] <Xenguy> intelikey: heh, have fun :-)
[05:31] <snowowl> I was interested in writing an app but could not decide weather to focus on qt or gtk
[05:31] <Xenguy> snowowl: I gather that GTK is C, whereas QT is C++
[05:31] <Xenguy> snowowl: maybe that makes a difference?
[05:31] <bimberi> kbrosnan: np :)
[05:31] <ubuntu-newbie> nickrud here?
[05:32] <Xenguy> snowowl: I should say, GNOME is C, and KDE is C++
[05:32] <ubuntu-newbie> guys anyone? after upgrading to breezy.. it would all be okay and everything should work properly right?
[05:32] <ubuntu-newbie> everything would be upgraded
[05:32] <ubuntu-newbie> no?
[05:32] <Xenguy> snowowl: AFAIK (last time I checked in, yada yada :-)
[05:32] <snowowl> If language made a difference I'd be back in school rather than writing my app :)
[05:33] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, had to leave for a sec
[05:33] <Xenguy> ubuntu-newbie: yes...
[05:33] <DShepherd> neva mind I found the torrent for opera static--> http://www.opera.com/download/torrents/
[05:33] <Xenguy> ubuntu-newbie: you may have to run the command a few times until everything is settled but it worked fine for me
[05:33] <ubuntu-newbie> nickrud allright thanks alot man
[05:33] <ubuntu-newbie> Xenguy allright man thanks
[05:34] <nickrud> ubuntu-newbie, what's one night :)
[05:34] <Xenguy> ubuntu-newbie: good luck
[05:34] <Nihil85> I have a problem: i can't access the shared folder. why i cannot do this? the shared folder window crashes and i have to kill it. how can i fix this problem?
[05:34] <ubuntu-newbie> hehe :)
[05:34] <ubuntu-newbie> ill be away guy gotta go sleep, ill see you around ;)
[05:34] <ubuntu-newbie> laters ;)
[05:34] <nickrud> se ubuntu-newbie
[05:34] <Xenguy> ubuntu-newbie: just start d/l'ing, and go to bed :-)
[05:35] <ross_> anyone know how to get wxwidgets apps like VLC and Audacity to look like everything else under Breezy?
[05:35] <jedrick> who play xmame here? i have problem with the sound. anyone can help?
[05:35] <Fuzz> trying to install ubuntu 5.10 and it hangs on Python 2.4 everytime ? Anyone seen this before?
[05:36] <cafuego> Fuzz: Did you burn the install cd yourself?
[05:36] <bimberi> Fuzz: no, but it could be a bad CD (or one burnt from a bad iso)
[05:36] <Fuzz> yes I burnt it myself
[05:37] <Fuzz> I will check the md5's and re-burn
[05:37] <cafuego> Fuzz: Did you burn it at 8x or slower?
[05:37] <Fuzz> no
[05:37] <cyrre> I cant apt-get install openssh-server.. someone knows why I cant? or why its disabled
[05:37] <bimberi> Nihil85: try "sudo /usr/bin/shares-admin" in a terminal and see if there's any errors
[05:37] <Fuzz> I think it was 12x
[05:37] <cafuego> Fuzz: I've found most *buntu Cds won't work if done at over 8X.
[05:37] <cafuego> Fuzz: reburn at 8 and see how you go
[05:37] <Fuzz> ahhhh
[05:37] <Nihil85> thanks bimberi. i will try it
[05:37] <Fuzz> ok .... thanks cafuego, and bimberi
[05:37] <bimberi> cyrre: what's the error? (use a pastebin if it's >1 line)
[05:38] <potus> what package is /usr/local/include/bzlib.h included in on ubuntu 5.10.. im tring to install something and need that =/
[05:38] <cyrre> bimberi: okey.. but its in swedish.. can try to translate
[05:38] <Nihil85> bimberi, no, i can't see anything on the terminal. Only the window freezed....
[05:39] <potus> anyone help me out?
[05:39] <bimberi> cyrre: ha, k :)
[05:39] <cafuego> potus: Nothing, packaged softare is NEVER in /usr/local
[05:39] <cafuego> !find bzlib.h
[05:39] <bimberi> Nihil85: hm, not much to go on there :/
[05:39] <potus> or /usr/include
[05:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'bzlib.h' (1 shown): (/usr/include/bzlib.h) in libdevel/libbz2-dev.
[05:39] <potus> it look for the file in them 2 places
[05:40] <Nihil85> bimberi, so the only solution is to reinstall Ubuntu?
[05:40] <potus> wpw tjat find command is sweet
[05:40] <cafuego> potus: Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoApt and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[05:40] <cyrre> following packages has dependencies (damn:D) that couldnt be satisfied :  openssh-server: depends: open-sshclient :o
[05:41] <bimberi> Nihil85: not yet. perhaps reinstall the package that includes shares-admin
[05:41] <cyrre> but when i apt-get install openssh-client it says that its already the latest version
[05:41] <x86i>  Which VNC-type server does anyone perfer? Im wanting to play around alittle bit with them, and I was wondering if someone had a recommendation. Are there some that come ready to go via Synaptics?
[05:42] <cafuego> x86i:  yes, search for 'vnc' in synaptic.
[05:42] <cafuego> !depends openssh-server
[05:42] <x86i> cafuego: I see several, but maybe there are more? I was wondering if anyone has used TightVNC, or FreeNX
[05:43] <cafuego> I'm sure people have. See if searching the wiki turns up anything.
[05:43] <bimberi> Nihil85: sudo sudo apt-get install --reinstall --purge gnome-system-tools
[05:43] <cyrre> !depends openssh-server
[05:44] <x86i> Oddly enough, the Wiki doesn't contain ANY information regarding VNC
[05:44] <Syphonist> x86i: FreeNX is harder to get working correctly then TightVNC
[05:44] <potus> !find libexpat
[05:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'libexpat' (4 shown): libexpat-ocaml ;; libexpat-ocaml-dev ;; libexpat1 ;; libexpat1-dev.
[05:44] <dickson> hello
[05:45] <Talisker> ok
[05:45] <cyrre> how weird that is doesnt work
[05:45] <dickson> i need help
[05:45] <dickson> with linux
[05:45] <bimberi> Nihil85: ...with only one sudo :P
[05:45] <Talisker> after going through several files I've realized that the startup script file is ~/.Xsession
[05:45] <cyrre> write what you need help with :-)
[05:45] <Talisker> but that still won't work
[05:45] <dickson> basa de mmg
[05:46] <dickson> i m having
[05:46] <Nihil85> bimberi, i'm at the desktop pc. the shared folders problem is at the laptop, that is not connected to internet
[05:46] <dickson> problems
[05:46] <Nihil85> bimberi, so i typed that command, but the shell remembered me that i'm not connected with that pc
[05:46] <x86i> Omnineo: Does installing TightVNC via Synaptics include the Gnome configuration portion for it? Or will it be the usual way?
[05:47] <melalcoolique> hi
[05:47] <Omnineo> afaik It just installs the console tools
[05:48] <bimberi> Nihil85: i don't quite understand, but if the target comp. isn't on the net you could transfer the package to it (after downloading via http://packages.ubuntu.com) and put it in the /var/cache/apt/archives directory.  Then try that command
[05:49] <Nihil85> bimberi, thanks. i will do it tomorrow because for me now is later!
[05:49] <Nihil85> bimberi, thanks a lot
[05:49] <Omnineo> x86i: Are you on Breezy or dapper?
[05:49] <bimberi> Nihil85: ha, k, sleep well :)
[05:50] <Talisker> C'mon, how come none of you knows how to create a startup script
[05:50] <x86i> Omnineo: Breezy... Would it be worth to check out Dapper?
[05:50] <siph0n_> im reading some web page on gumstix.org, and its saying that after i install the buildroot, i will have a working gcc cross-compiler in a certain folder... then it says to add this folder to my path and then i can use arm-linux-gcc as a cross compiler... but where do i add that directory path to?
[05:50] <Omnineo> x86i: not yet
[05:50] <Xcerca> is there any easy way to do anything is in this OS ?
[05:51] <Pablo> lol
[05:51] <Xcerca> i just want to get my sound card working and it's going to take a damn day to do it
[05:51] <x86i> Xcerca: Most of it is pretty simple.
[05:51] <x86i> Xcerca: What kind of soundcard do you have?
[05:51] <Xcerca> yea,  i know
[05:51] <Xcerca> a Sound Blaster Audigy 4
[05:52] <x86i> Xcerca: and the SB drivers wont work with it?
[05:52] <Xcerca> how do you install it
[05:53] <Omnineo> thats a fairly new soundcard lol
[05:53] <Xcerca> i have the emu10k package that a few web pages said to get...
[05:53] <x86i> Xcerca: Use the device manager. You can add everything there.
[05:53] <Omnineo> *envy
[05:53] <blanky> hey guys it's blank! but since my nick was taken, I switched to what girls call me! :)
[05:53] <Xcerca> it's in the device manager,    i just can't get it working
[05:54] <Xcerca> it said it would work with ALSA drivers
[05:54] <Xcerca> i am useing XMMS
[05:54] <Xcerca> is there a better mp3 player out there for us ?
[05:54] <x86i> Xcerca: What drivers does the Manager say are being used on the soundcard? You can easily change them out, to try more then 1
[05:56] <Xcerca> i'm pretty sure it's using the right one
[05:56] <Xcerca> just device manager syas unknown device
[05:56] <Omnineo> the "emu10k1" one?
[05:56] <Xcerca> yes
[05:57] <x86i> try using one Ubuntu provides.
[05:58] <Omnineo> Xcerca: have you read the docs on the driver?
[05:58] <DShepherd> does anybody device managers shows alot of 'unknown' ?
[05:58] <DShepherd> does anybody's device manager shows alot of 'unknown' ?
[05:59] <Xcerca> yes,    i just need more time to go over some stuff
[06:00] <Xcerca> i love this OS though
[06:00] <Xcerca> kicks the shit out of windows
[06:00] <cec> HI
[06:00] <Omnineo> seems kinda odd, the same driver is used for audigy2 and I have installed warty on a systems with an audigy2 and it worked jsut fine
[06:00] <Xcerca> whats warty ?
[06:01] <nickrud> My processor shows as unknown :)
[06:01] <Omnineo> older version of Ubuntu
[06:01] <x86i> Ubuntu rocks my socks
[06:01] <Xcerca> did it auto detect it and work?  or did you install the driver yourself ?
[06:01] <Omnineo> auto-detect
[06:02] <bimberi> DShepherd: yep, my device manager doesn't know much either
[06:02] <Xcerca> i dled a emu10k1 package but don't really now how to connect it to my sound card
[06:02] <x86i> Isnt there a command in Debian for scanning new hardware again in console?
[06:02] <DShepherd> bimberi: is that a bug or a feature? or just a buggy feature?
[06:02] <nickrud> DShepherd, it's interesting, the left panel shows stuff by name, but the right shows unknown
[06:02] <Omnineo> you need to tell also to use the driver
[06:03] <bimberi> DShepherd: all of the above :P
[06:03] <DShepherd> nickrud: yup...very interesting
[06:03] <La_PaRCa> Hey. Anyone here has worked with eclipse 3.1 and ubuntu? I have a problem with the Visual Editor plugin.
[06:03] <DShepherd> nickrud: very pointless though...
[06:03] <nickrud> well, it is version 0.5.3
[06:03] <mebaran151> I can not seem to get dmix to work
[06:03] <mebaran151> for my Via Envy onboard snd
[06:03] <DShepherd> bimberi: so you know how i can get info about my system via command line?
[06:04] <DShepherd> nickrud: : so you know how i can get info about my system via command line?
[06:04] <mebaran151> DShepherd, what do you want to know?
[06:04] <mebaran151>  /dev has useful things
[06:04] <nickrud> DShepherd, try dmidecode, it has a bit
[06:04] <th3flawl3ss1> anybody know of a newsgroup client for ubuntu?
[06:05] <DShepherd> mebaran151: for example info about my processor...speed, cache stuff like that
[06:05] <x86i> Thunderbird
[06:05] <jbroome> th3flawl3ss1: thunderbird works
[06:05] <DShepherd> mebaran151: name and maker is nice too
[06:05] <th3flawl3ss1> i forgot about the mail clients being able to do it... thanks
[06:05] <siph0n_> isnt there a way to save the output the command gives? cause its really long and i cant see the whole thing after i type it
[06:05] <siph0n_> like save it to a file
[06:05] <nickrud> DShepherd, dmidecode has that, and more
[06:05] <bimberi> DShepherd: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:05] <dr_willis> command > file.txt
[06:05] <x86i> th3flawl3ss1: Or you can look in Synaptics, there is a category for Newsgroups
[06:05] <DShepherd> nickrud: so I see...much more
[06:05] <siph0n_> k kool :)
[06:05] <siph0n_> thanx
[06:06] <dr_willis> or command | less
[06:06] <mebaran151> DShepherd, maker will be hard to get
[06:06] <mebaran151> look around /sys
[06:06] <bimberi> DShepherd: also "sudo lshw" is pretty, um, detailed :)
[06:06] <mebaran151> you'll see lots of good stuf
[06:06] <mebaran151> f
[06:06] <mebaran151> yeah
[06:06] <mebaran151> lshw
[06:06] <potus> im having major problems installing apache+php5 for some reason..  anyone know a good tutorial i tried them all
[06:06] <potus> =/
[06:06] <DShepherd> bimberi: oh ok
[06:06] <Ophiocus> this is one hell of a ryde. this ubuntu is
[06:06] <DShepherd> mebaran151: ok
[06:06] <x86i> potus: Any reason your using php5?
[06:06] <mebaran151> DShepherd, (cat is your friend)
[06:07] <bimberi> DShepherd: "cat /proc/cpuinfo" is worth a look
[06:07] <DShepherd> bimberi: kool.. going to check out that now
[06:07] <mebaran151> dmix, I need help
[06:08] <DShepherd> nickrud:  found the manufacturer my cpu with sudo dmidecode
[06:08] <nickrud> DShepherd, yeah, I like that it even tells you about the power button :)
[06:08] <mebaran151> DShepherd, uname -a
[06:08] <l33txp> Guys I downloaded the latest Release of Firefox.. how to I install it??
[06:08] <mebaran151> will tell you alot
[06:08] <l33txp> I have firefox-1.5rc2.rar.gz
[06:08] <DShepherd> mebaran151: I know about that command thanks
[06:09] <Victor> what is the difference between 'ubuntu maintainers' and 'ubuntu members'?
[06:09] <rabeldable> l33txp:  did you read the install docs when you downloaded the file?
[06:09] <DShepherd> nickrud: mebaran151 bimberi *noting the commands we speak
[06:09] <Victor> I mean in community
[06:09] <gareth_> hello
[06:10] <l33txp> haha.. sorry.. sleepy and late..
[06:10] <Omnineo> maintainers work on packages, members have contributed to the community and have a vote on the future changes to ubuntu
[06:10] <darkness> HEllo, could anyone tell me how to compiler a .cpp file which is located on my desktop using the terminal?
[06:10] <rabeldable> l33txp: i'm sure its a simple process, just find the doc and follow the steps....
[06:10] <DShepherd> nickrud: mebaran151 bimberi how about my graphics card. Is there a link that I can get this info from....I'm going to google after I finsh the notes
[06:11] <gareth_> uisng linux?
[06:11] <polpak> darkness: g++ file.cpp -o progname
[06:11] <darkness> Thanks
[06:11] <Talisker> K
[06:11] <DShepherd> nickrud: mebaran151 bimberi I mean about commands and system info
[06:11] <Xcerca> is there any good walkthrough pages for doing things ?
[06:11] <th3flawl3ss1> last question... can quickpar be run with linux without wine?
[06:11] <Talisker> I've menaged to get ubuntu to accept the existence of ~/.xsession
[06:11] <polpak> darkness: there are other flags you can use for debugging, optimizing, etc, but that's the basic
[06:12] <Talisker> but I get an error output with this line:
[06:12] <Talisker> (gnome-terminal:12435): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[06:12] <Talisker> and that's about it
[06:12] <nickrud> DShepherd, a single command, no, I don't: I browse through /var/log/Xorg.0.log for that
[06:12] <polpak> Xcerca: read the getting started guide
[06:12] <darkness> Yeah, i just need to compile some simple programs that go with my C++ for dummies disk.
[06:12] <Talisker> as if it ignores everything other then gnome-terminal
[06:12] <DShepherd> nickrud: k
[06:12] <gareth_> any one else having problem with real player on ubuntu
[06:12] <polpak> darkness: that's assuming you've already installed g++
[06:12] <Talisker> either that or it does'nt actually run anything
[06:12] <l33txp> will there be a file in the archive or on the website??
[06:13] <Omnineo> darkness: take a look at:  http://users.actcom.co.il/~choo/lupg/tutorials/c-on-unix/c-on-unix.html
[06:13] <Monkeyb> im trying to use make, (to instal ndiswrapper) but it complains i need kernal sources, where can i get those
[06:13] <darkness> Thanks for the link.
[06:14] <Omnineo> MonkeyB: search in synaptic for kernel, the sources will be there
[06:14] <potus> can someone help me with php5 and apache.. i tried to apt-get install php5 apache2   and i cant get php to work in my /var/www?
[06:14] <choudesh> What package is mkinitrd in?
[06:14] <darkness> I got an error message saying " g++: ArrayDemo.cpp: no such file or directory. and then g++: No imput files
[06:14] <SEJeff> Monkeyb: Search for linux-kernel-headers, that is the package you need
[06:14] <x86i> potus: Any reason your using php5?
[06:14] <kapputu> Monkeyb, do sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:14] <Monkeyb> i did that already
[06:14] <polpak> Monkeyb: Why not install ndiswrapper from apt-get?
[06:14] <Monkeyb> cool
[06:14] <Monkeyb> how can i do that?
[06:14] <Monkeyb> sudo apt-get ndiswrapper?
[06:14] <Omnineo> Darkness: Copy the file from your desktop to your home folder
[06:14] <DShepherd> nickrud: nice...... the log. Lots of stuff to swallow though
[06:15] <kapputu> sudo apt-cache search ndiswrapper
[06:15] <Omnineo> Darkness: I.E. /home/darkness
[06:15] <polpak> Monkeyb: Well there's ndiswrapper-utils
[06:15] <darkness> Ok, hopefully this should work. I've only recently switched to linux from Windows. I'm finding the transition very smooth apart from things like this
[06:15] <Victor> Thanks!If want to be a member,membership need to be appointed. maintainers need to be appointed,too?
[06:15] <polpak> Monkeyb: I'd imagine that should have what you need
[06:15] <nickrud> DShepherd, compare it to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf: it's a good key to read the log by.
[06:16] <Omnineo> darkness: just make sure your in the same directy as the file your trying to compile
[06:16] <x86i> darkness: :) Welcome to the other-side of the fence
[06:16] <bimberi> Monkeyb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[06:16] <potus> what more is their to installing php other then apt-get install --reinstall --purge apache2 php5.   for some reason it just wont work =(
[06:16] <bimberi> Monkeyb: iirc, your pc isn't on the net, is that right?
[06:16] <Monkeyb> sweet
[06:16] <polpak> darkness: Alternatively you could cd to your Desktop before running the command
[06:16] <Monkeyb> yeah, i cant get it on lan, wired or wireless at this point
[06:17] <Omnineo> darkness: I dont remember how to get to the desktop in Ubuntu, i belive you can use this "cd .Desktop" when your in your home folder
[06:17] <bimberi> Monkeyb: ok, you can download packages via http://packages.ubuntu.com and transfer them too the pc
[06:17] <Monkeyb> alrighty
[06:17] <DShepherd> nickrud: ok....I wish the device manager would would work though
[06:17] <DShepherd> nickrud: well wishes do come tru :)
[06:17] <polpak> Omnineo: I'm pretty sure it's just "cd ~/Desktop
[06:17] <choudesh> Anyone know what package mkinitrd is in?
[06:17] <Omnineo> lol thanks
[06:18] <bimberi> Omnineo: no .    - ie. cd ~/Desktop
[06:18] <Omnineo> on a windows box atm ;)
[06:18] <nickrud> DShepherd, well, it's still beta; I've watched a lot of beta stuff become very nice
[06:18] <nickrud> or, fall by the wayside
[06:18] <DShepherd> nickrud: ok kool
[06:18] <bimberi> Omnineo: ewww, make sure you shower afterwards :P
[06:18] <darkness> Thanks. Putting the file in my home directory worked.
[06:18] <polpak> Omnineo: or at least wash your hands.. ;p
[06:19] <nickrud> plastic gloves are very helpful
[06:19] <Omnineo> If only the wife undstood anything I tell her
[06:19] <darkness> x86i: Thanks, i am enjoying this side of the fence much better.
[06:19] <bimberi> !find mkinitrd
[06:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'mkinitrd' (2 shown): bootcd-mkinitrd ;; mkinitrd-cd.
[06:19] <bimberi> choudesh: ^^^^^
[06:20] <gareth_> Anyone wanna chat?
[06:20] <choudesh> bimberi, mkrboot. :-)
[06:21] <Victor>  Thanks!If want to be a member,membership need to be appointed. maintainers need to be appointed,too?
[06:21] <bimberi> choudesh: actually, my mistake, that only returned packages with mkinitrd in the name :/
[06:21] <gareth_> members?
[06:21] <choudesh> bimberi, yea. I always fall for that too. No prob.
[06:21] <bimberi> choudesh: initrd-tools (found via http://packages.ubuntu.com)
[06:22] <Victor>  Thanks!If want to be a ubuntu community member,membership need to be appointed. ubuntu community maintainers need to be appointed,too?
[06:23] <gareth_> how does one become a unbuntu community member?
[06:23] <threeseas> stability of breezy is not what I'd expect from linux... but I rpobably just need to turn off apcm of what ever its called. --- anyone know how to do that (something with the grub command???)
[06:24] <x86i> threeseas: When you boot up, hit ESC to get to the grub menu
[06:24] <threeseas> ok when I set it will it stay ?
[06:24] <Victor> what is the difference between 'ubuntu developers' and 'ubuntu members'?
[06:25] <nickrud> gareth_, do a search for member on the wiki, there's a few links, you also x86i
[06:25] <threeseas> rebooting
[06:25] <x86i> nickrud: Don't you mean Victor?
[06:25] <jeff_> hey guys
[06:25] <nickrud> sorry x86i yah, I do mean Victor ;)
[06:26] <jeff_> what do you use for p2p c;ients on ubuntu?
[06:26] <DShepherd> jeff_: I use limewire
[06:26] <nickrud> jeff_, amule, gtk-gnutella, mldonkey
[06:26] <x86i> jeff_: We dont... P2P = Bad.
[06:26] <jeff_> lol
[06:26] <jeff_> ok thanks
[06:26] <jeff_> how do you get limewire?
[06:27] <DShepherd> jeff_: go to the site....and download it.
[06:27] <mebaran151> my dmix is not working
[06:27] <mebaran151> Would anyone please help me?
[06:27] <jeff_> o...k ill check it out
[06:27] <mebaran151> I have a Via Envy onboard soundcard
[06:27] <micahf> is anyone else having problems modprobing the nvidia modules?
[06:27] <bimberi> Victor, gareth_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/community/processes/newmember
[06:28] <nickrud> !member
[06:28] <ubotu> nickrud: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:28] <nickrud> bimberi ^^
[06:28] <bimberi> ubotu member is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/community/processes/newmember
[06:28] <ubotu> okay, bimberi
[06:28] <nickrud> better than cigarettes, maybe
[06:28] <bimberi> nickrud: :)
[06:28] <bimberi> nickrud: lol
[06:29] <nickrud> heh
[06:29] <nickrud> gonna go have one, can't smoke in the office
[06:29] <Victor> I have looked through that.But i still have some doult.
[06:29] <gareth_> cheers bimberi
[06:29] <bimberi> gareth_: np :)
[06:29] <jrsims> any networking gurus here?
[06:30] <x86i> jrsims: I'm pretty good, but to be a guru, I'd have to have long greasy hair.
[06:30] <jeff_> yo guys breezy kicks ass
[06:30] <jeff_> in hoary it took like days and days
[06:30] <jeff_> to set up my wireless card
[06:31] <jeff_> struggling with ndiswrapper
[06:31] <gareth_> me2
[06:31] <Victor> Is the  leader of each team  appointed by community council or self-appointed?
[06:31] <x86i> You know what I noticed about the Ubuntu install... the fonts take the longest to install.
[06:31] <gareth_> it did nothing
[06:31] <jrsims> x86i: Good enough! :) I'm having trouble getting port forwarding on my Linksys router to work.
[06:31] <jeff_> lol yeah i know
[06:31] <jeff_> i love the boot splash too
[06:31] <x86i> jrsims: Which model?
[06:31] <jesse_> jeff_: some of us despise the boot splash ...
[06:31] <jrsims> x86i: Basically, I have it configured to forward HTTP traffic to my ubuntu box, on which Apache is running. But no go.
[06:31] <jeff_> and the 'Add Application' program rocks
[06:31] <Madpilot> x86i: Ubuntu ships with a mountain of international fonts...
[06:32] <jeff_> you do?
[06:32] <jeff_> how come?
[06:32] <choudesh> Now we see how nicely SELinux plays with Ubuntu
[06:32] <jrsims> x86i: it's the one that came with my Vonage service - the linksys RTP300
[06:32] <x86i> jrsims: Lemme PM you
[06:32] <jrsims> hey
[06:32] <jrsims> Crap
[06:32] <x86i> lol
[06:32] <jesse_> jeff_: i cant watch individual boot scripts execute, which i sometimes need
[06:32] <bobessutio> Anybody know hot to get a ATI All IN Wonder 9800 tv tuner working?
[06:32] <jrsims> x86i: how do I pm in irssi?
[06:32] <x86i> oh...
[06:32] <x86i> hrm
[06:32] <Rev-Marc> file sharing- I have shared a folder on my wife's computer(running UBUNTU) how do I get to it from my laptop?
[06:32] <jesse_> jeff_: but i see where some would like the bootsplash :)
[06:32] <x86i> A windows doesnt pop up?
[06:33] <jrsims> x86i: nope, but I see your text
[06:33] <jeff_> you can disable it though, have you read the thread on ubuntu forums about trimming the boot process?
[06:33] <Monkeyb> so im trying to get wireless to work, i used ndis wrapper to install the inf for my network card. now i activated it in the network utility, but it doesnt work
[06:33] <jrsims> x86i: irssi is all textmode
[06:33] <choudesh> bobessutio, Try the gatos stuff?
[06:33] <jeff_> yeah, ive only been using ubuntu since july so im still kinda new
[06:33] <x86i> jrsims: Yeah, I forgot lol. I guess just try /msg x86i
[06:33] <Victor> If I find a bug,where should I report it,launchpad.net or bugzilla.net?
[06:33] <jesse_> jeff_: i already did, but im saying the bootsplash is bad!!!!! bad bad bad
[06:33] <Rev-Marc> Laptop is running Ubuntu also
[06:33] <bobessutio> choudesh:got the package installed, but I don't know how to use it..
[06:34] <jrsims> x86i: ok, it's blocking my pm's cuz I'm not registered. :(
[06:34] <makkk> how do i access a memory stick that is inserted into a slot in my laptop?
[06:34] <bimberi> Victor: main/restricted -> bugzilla.ubuntu.com         universe/multiverse -> launchpad.net/malone
[06:34] <x86i> oh yeah
[06:34] <bobessutio> Rev-Marc: have you tried right-click share?
[06:34] <Madpilot> jrsims: /help nickserv register
[06:34] <x86i> join #x86i
[06:35] <jrsims> Madpilot: thanks
[06:35] <bobessutio> makkk, does it show up on the desktop?
[06:35] <jeff_> jesse_: lol ok. maybe ill agree with you in the future when i have become one with my computer
[06:35] <makkk> bobessutio, no
[06:35] <Rev-Marc> I have done that on her computer I just can't find where I go on mine to see it
[06:35] <bimberi> Rev-Marc: yours ubuntu too?
[06:35] <jeff_> what is a .rpm?
[06:36] <bobessutio> Rev-Marc: do you have the ip of the targetr computer?
[06:36] <Rev-Marc> YES
[06:36] <bimberi> Rev-Marc: places -> Connect to Server
[06:36] <Rev-Marc> NO IP
[06:36] <Pablo> jeff it is a package for leik redhat
[06:36] <bobessutio> Rev-Marc: hostname?
[06:36] <Rev-Marc> yes
[06:36] <Pablo> similar to .deb for us or debian
[06:36] <Rev-Marc> I tried connect tgo server and no joy
[06:36] <jeff_> Pablo: ok thanks. i just got the limewire linux RPM and i dotn know what to do with it
[06:37] <jesse_> jeff_: ahahaha, i guess i just think less is more http://eng.utoledo.edu/~jbrown/Screenshot110205.png
[06:37] <bimberi> Rev-Marc: you will need the address of the other pc (ifconfig on it will tell you)
[06:37] <Pablo> I am no expert but I dont think you can do anyhting with it on ubuntu
[06:37] <bobessutio> Rev-Marc: try network servers?
[06:37] <Victor> bimberi:thanks. Is the  leader of each team  appointed by community council or self-appointed?
[06:38] <bobessutio> makkk, don't know what to tell you...
[06:38] <bimberi> Victor: i don't know sorry
[06:38] <darksoul> how hard was it for you to delete windows? and afterwards how hard was it until you found linux fun to use...just wondering
[06:38] <johnsie2k> !java
[06:38] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:38] <makkk> bobessutio, ok. do you know where i can find log files that might give me clues about something being inserted?
[06:38] <bimberi> Pablo, jeff_: you can use alien to convert the rpm to a deb
[06:38] <Madpilot> darksoul: very easy, to both questions ;)
[06:38] <bobessutio> makkk, /var/log
[06:38] <Pablo> thats nice jesse_
[06:38] <jesse_> ty Pablo
[06:39] <jeff_> bimberi: alien you say? where do i get that? synaptic?
[06:39] <jesse_> ubuntu + fluxbox = win
[06:39] <Pablo> jesse_,  what do you use to display your stats like that?
[06:39] <darksoul> Madpilot: but im a hardcore gamer and its hard for me couse nothing runs smoth on the gaming area
[06:39] <makkk> bob, thanks
[06:39] <bimberi> jeff_: yep
[06:39] <jesse_> Pablo: i use a program called conky
[06:39] <jesse_> Pablo: its in universe i think
[06:39] <jeff_> bimberi: thank
[06:39] <bobessutio> makkk, try lsusb, adn see if it shows up
[06:39] <jeff_> jesse_: lol that is one insane scree
[06:40] <darksoul> whats your fav forums people?
[06:40] <jeff_> jesse_: one with your computer indeed
[06:40] <jesse_> jeff_: borged :P
[06:40] <Madpilot> darksoul: Enemy Territory runs well in Linux - so does America's Army - aside from that, all I play is Solitaire...
[06:40] <jesse_> Madpilot: Unreal Tournament 2k4 and Nexuiz!!!!!!!!!!
[06:41] <darksoul> Madpilot: what is your fav forums? phpbb, what?
[06:41] <Pablo> thanks jesse_ ... instlling now
[06:41] <makkk> bobessutio, nothing obvious, but i'll look in /var/log
[06:41] <Pablo> :D
[06:41] <Rev-Marc> her IP I now have
[06:42] <Omnineo> Darksoul: Quake 4 was just released on Linux
[06:42] <jesse_> :D conky is easily edited for you to theme via an easy to understand config
[06:42] <darksoul> L
[06:42] <darksoul> Omnineo: free?
[06:42] <Pablo> cool
[06:42] <Omnineo> Darksoul: You can also play Doom3, and your favorite games may work via cedaga
[06:42] <jesse_> Pablo: such configurability works well and is the method for fluxbox as well, which is why it owns gnome
[06:43] <Pablo> hmm
[06:43] <Omnineo> Darksoul: Well you have to purchase quake 4, but it works on both windows and linux with one purchase
[06:43] <Pablo> does fluxbox run on gnome?
[06:43] <jesse_> Pablo: all fluxbox themes are simple config files, easily made to fit your taste
[06:43] <Rev-Marc> How do I make sure we are both in the same work group?
[06:43] <darksoul> Omnineo: doom 3 demo worked..but lagged..im guessing its couse i have a 1.4ghz prosseser and 384mb ram, btw what is your fav forums? SMF, PHPBB?
[06:43] <jesse_> Pablo: just check out fluxbox, its in universe as well :)
[06:43] <darksoul> Omnineo: im thinking about making a linux forum..
[06:44] <Pablo> but... how do you run it?
[06:44] <Omnineo> darksoul: I would use PHPBB, I use that the most ie www.bendgamer.com
[06:44] <jedrick> how to extract .tar.bz2
[06:44] <jedrick>  file?
[06:44] <jesse_> Pablo: fluxbox is in the sessions menu after an apt-get install fluxbox
[06:44] <Vinicius_Ubuntu> tar jxf file
[06:44] <jedrick> ok thnx
[06:44] <jesse_> Pablo: when you log in, you can choose a session
[06:44] <darksoul> you seen SMF?
[06:44] <Vinicius_Ubuntu> jedrick, tar jxf
[06:45] <johnsie2k> re ubuntuforums.org down?
[06:45] <Pablo> ok
[06:45] <Vinicius_Ubuntu> anyone know install ISA sound cards?
[06:45] <Rev-Marc> where can I find a write up (howto) for file sharing in Ubuntu
[06:45] <jesse_> johnsie2k: no, i can get to the forums
[06:45] <zoyd> hi
[06:45] <Rev-Marc> ?
[06:45] <Pablo> jesse_,  do I need to config before I choose the session or just logout and login to fluxbox
[06:46] <Vinicius_Ubuntu> Rev-Marc, SAMBA ou NFS?
[06:46] <jesse_> Pablo: i suggest installing all the suggested packages first, then just log out and log in to flux
[06:46] <Pablo> ok
[06:46] <johnsie2k> and http://ubuntuforums.org/ is the right url?
[06:46] <Pablo> brb
[06:46] <jesse_> johnsie2k: yes sir
[06:46] <Rev-Marc> since I do not know the difference both
[06:46] <johnsie2k> ha.. my is must be retarded
[06:47] <Vinicius_Ubuntu> johndilley, enter in www.ubuntulinux.org -> search for foruns :)
[06:47] <jesse_> johnsie2k: sounds that way, what country do you hail from
[06:47] <johnsie2k> uk
[06:47] <johnsie2k> I might have a word with them
[06:47] <jesse_> johnsie2k: sounds like some odd interweb connectivitiy, im from the states and connect fine
[06:48] <johnsie2k> yeah.... unfortunately mine is prolly the biggest isp in the uk
[06:48] <jesse_> johnsie2k: firewall?
[06:48] <fletch33> quick question i installed ubu on my laptop and as soon as i was setup i was able to change my reolution to 1024x768 but i just installed it on my desktop and i can only get 640x480 what can i do tofix this
[06:48] <johnsie2k> all other sites are working
[06:48] <jeff_> do you guys know if trillian is available on linux?
[06:48] <johnsie2k> no jeff
[06:48] <bimberi> fletch33: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:48] <fletch33> jeff_, gaim is better anyway
[06:49] <johnsie2k> u can try using wine to run it but i dont think it'll work jeff
[06:49] <fletch33> bimberi, thanks
[06:49] <jeff_> fletch33: lol but its so ugly
[06:49] <bimberi> fletch33: yw :)
[06:49] <Xlylith> Hi All, does anyone know how to enable USB CDMA Modem in Ubuntu?
[06:49] <jesse_> johnsie2k: i dont know what to tell you
[06:49] <johnsie2k> i'll just go through a proxy
[06:49] <jeff_> fletch33: do you know how to make small popup windows in the corner of the screen when somebody talks to you?
[06:50] <johnsie2k> and speak to my isp about it
[06:50] <Pablo> thats sweet jesse_
[06:50] <jesse_> johnsie2k: sounds like a plan to me! good luck!
[06:50] <fletch33> bimberi, i installed this on my desktop to get back my remote desktop i sthat gonna work w/ubu or at least some version
[06:50] <jesse_> Pablo: yes indeed, and only a fraction of the memory usage of gnome
[06:50] <johnsie2k> I'm guessing that firefox allows proxies
[06:50] <jesse_> johnsie2k: yes
[06:51] <z3r0x> hi guys
[06:51] <fletch33> jeff_,  no u lose that it will bring up all your contacts at least as far as i have been able to find
[06:51] <jesse_> Pablo: i actually have some other guys onboard to make a try at a Fluxbuntu projec[#ubuntu]  Pablo: i actually have some other guys onboard to make a try at a Fluxbuntu projectt
[06:51] <z3r0x> what tool do you use to burn cd?
[06:51] <bimberi> fletch33: not with you, do you mean "can i run vnc?"
[06:51] <jesse_> oops
[06:51] <fletch33> jeff_, i miss that too
[06:51] <fletch33> bimberi, so it is called vnc
[06:52] <Xlylith> Hi All, does anyone know how to enable USB CDMA Modem in Ubuntu?
[06:52] <zxsykco> Anyone know of a good ftp server?
[06:52] <zxsykco> gftp?
[06:52] <z3r0x> zxsykco, glftpd rules
[06:52] <Xlylith> zxsykco, vsftpd is fine
[06:52] <Pablo> :D
[06:52] <zxsykco> Thankee, all!
[06:52] <z3r0x> zxsykco, http://www.glftpd.com/
[06:53] <jesse_> Pablo: i actually have some other guys onboard to make a try at a Fluxbuntu project
[06:53] <fletch33> bimberi,  i used me desktop as a server per say to pplay music on my stereo and video on my tv and kept alll the files on it and was able to see and control it will i have that again
[06:53] <bimberi> fletch33: ubuntu installs with a vnc client (Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client) and server (System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop)
[06:53] <Pablo> jesse_, that sounds great
[06:53] <Pablo> I am going to have to play with this
[06:53] <bimberi> fletch33: or you can install openssh-server if you only need CLI access
[06:53] <Xlylith> Hi All, does anyone know how to enable USB CDMA Modem in Ubuntu? everytime I plug my modem into my laptop, Breezy got hung
[06:53] <jesse_> Pablo: if nothing, i will generate some default configs and wiki them
[06:53] <fletch33> bimberi, so it will be similiar to the windows version
[06:53] <jesse_> Pablo: themes and all
[06:53] <z3r0x> does anybody know a good tool to burn cds?
[06:53] <Pablo> you already have?
[06:54] <Salihu_AFK> Is there a net install for Ubuntu like there is for Debian?
[06:54] <jesse_> z3r0x: gnomebaker will do fine
[06:54] <bimberi> fletch33: yes
[06:54] <jesse_> Pablo: my configs are about half done
[06:54] <z3r0x> jesse_, thx
[06:54] <jesse_> z3r0x: no problem!
[06:54] <fletch33> bimberi, thanks i am trying to go completly with ubu so i just changed my server to ubu
[06:54] <Pablo> jesse_, ok... let me know when you get them dont further... is there a way to hide the terminal window once I start a program?
[06:55] <bimberi> Salihu: there are some advanced install methods documented at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[06:55] <Pablo> I also need to rtfm... I know :P
[06:55] <bimberi> fletch33: np :)
[06:55] <Salihu> Thanks Bimberi..
[06:55] <threeseas> Hmmm, removed powernowd and the responce of the system so far seem to be better --- Hmm I was/am overclocking the cpu a little
[06:55] <bimberi> Salihu: np :)
[06:55] <jesse_> Pablo: there are a number of ways, but if you have all the suggested flux packages there is an embedded "run" command you can add to your menu
[06:55] <potus> would anyone know how i can use html forum user INPUT's as a string in a url? e.g. ftp://$textbox1:$textbox2@host/
[06:55] <jesse_> Pablo: try "fbrun" in a terminal
[06:56] <jesse_> Pablo: or add it to your menu if you know how. the documentation is very clear
[06:56] <fletch33> bimberi,  i am having a pronblem though i had to remove my video card to get it to work and go back to the 1 that came with my machine but the 1 i had to remove is the 1 that is connected to my tv
[06:56] <darksoul> !afi
[06:56] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, darksoul
[06:56] <darksoul> !ati
[06:56] <ubotu> somebody said ati was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[06:56] <jesse_> Pablo: but i would like all to be able to use flux without tweaking, hence making some general configs for a wiki
[06:56] <Pablo> ok thanks
[06:57] <jesse_> Pablo: no problem!
[06:57] <Pablo> jesse_,  pm ok?
[06:57] <jesse_> Pablo: yessir
[06:58] <bimberi> fletch33: hm, getting outta my league :| - perhaps look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[06:58] <bimberi> !coffee
[06:58] <bimberi> cheers :)
[06:58] <jesse_> !beer
[06:58] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, jesse_
[06:58] <jesse_> i want beer, ubotu!
[06:58] <fletch33> bimberi,  do u use vnx
[06:58] <Omnineo> !cheese
[06:58] <ubotu> cheese is probably a milk-based product, created by mixing milk or cream with rennet. The resulting mixture is then drained of its whey, and often aged. http://www.cheese.com/
[06:58] <fletch33> bimberi, vnc
[06:59] <jeff_> bimberi: i installed alien off synaptic, but when i try to 'sudo dpkg -i' it tells me the .rpm is not a debian package
[06:59] <fletch33> bimberi, can i start to use it right away to set up my new desktop because i am on my laptop and my server is in a clost and a pain to stand around at
[07:00] <Madpilot> jesse_: try !beer now :)
[07:00] <jesse_> !beer
[07:00] <jesse_> omg ownage
[07:00] <jesse_> :)
[07:00] <z3r0x> jesse_, it's working well thx again
[07:00] <jeff_> does antony know how to install non-debian packages?
[07:00] <jesse_> z3r0x: anytime!
[07:00] <fletch33> bimberi,  do u know if it will let me completely control it
[07:00] <jesse_> jeff_: yes
[07:00] <jeff_> jesse_: could you help me out
[07:00] <jesse_> jeff_: try a "sudo alien -i <RPM>"
[07:00] <jeff_> jesse_: ok thanks man
[07:01] <jesse_> jeff_: if that doesnt work, try "man alien" to see options
[07:01] <fletch33> bimberi,  sorry i am sure u r busy i will just play around w/it
[07:01] <bimberi> fletch33: yes, i've used vnc. yes, it allows complete control
[07:01] <fletch33> bimberi, where is it located an how do i start itr
[07:02] <bimberi> fletch33: vnc client (Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client) and server (System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop)
[07:02] <jeff_> jesse_: ok something is happening. is it installing right where the .rpm is?
[07:02] <bimberi> fletch33: not busy, just drinking the aforementioned coffee :P
[07:03] <jesse_> jeff_: no, its using the rpm as if it were a debain package. thats what alien does :)
[07:03] <zoyd> how do i get server-side includes working in ubuntu, i don't see a seperate pkg for it
[07:03] <jeff_> ok
[07:03] <jesse_> jeff_: debian*
[07:03] <fletch33> bimberi, trying it now thanks
[07:03] <GTroy> alien allows you to install rpms?
[07:04] <GTroy> jesse_: did I get that right?
[07:04] <zoyd> GTroy, it converts between pkg formats
[07:04] <zoyd> GTroy, rpm -> deb ... deb -> rpm
[07:04] <JadussD> !w32codecs
[07:04] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/
[07:05] <bimberi> GTroy: yes, although i think it should have a -ihavetriedveryhardtofindanubuntudebpackage switch before you can use it
[07:05] <Sedge> anyone who can help a first time linux user setup the jdk on my machine? send me a query if so
[07:05] <GTroy> hheeheheeh
[07:05] <fletch33> bimberi,  well ia m getting lost sorry but i sthe user name the name i set up on that computer and is the passwrd the same
[07:05] <bimberi> ubotu tell sedge about java
[07:05] <jeff_> jesse_: ok i think it installed but when i click the icon in the applications menu it doesnt start
[07:06] <bimberi> fletch33: you configure the password on the server side (via the Remote Desktop gui), no username is needed
[07:06] <fletch33> bimberi,  duh i guess ineed to set it up on the "server" first losing it i guess
[07:06] <Seveas> gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu!
[07:06] <deFrysk> jeff_, many converted .debs just dont work
[07:06] <jeff_> jesse_: damnit
[07:06] <deFrysk> mogguh Seveas
[07:06] <bimberi> afternoon Seveas :)
[07:06] <Astxist> morning Seveas
[07:06] <Astxist> er I mean afternoon
[07:06] <Madpilot> Seveas: I think you just used up a week's supply of "o"... ;)
[07:06] <jeff_> jesse_: how do i get rid of it and install limewire correctly?
[07:06] <Seveas> mguh deFrysk
[07:07] <Seveas> srry Madpilt :)
[07:07] <fletch33> bimberi,  do use any security on ubu like a firewall or anti-virus
[07:07] <bimberi> fletch33: nope
[07:07] <fletch33> bimberi, so i dont need to worry
[07:08] <Sedge> what are the default ports i need to forward through my router when accessing remote desktop in ubuntu from an outside source using vnc?
[07:08] <bimberi> fletch33: that depends on what else you install, or what you're going to use it for
[07:08] <Omnineo> Sedge: 5950, 5951
[07:08] <Sedge> thanks
[07:08] <Sedge> =)
[07:09] <Sedge> what's a good vncviewer to use from a windows box?
[07:09] <Sedge> i'm trying to setup access from my school machines
[07:09] <bimberi> fletch33: if you run a mailserver for windows clients, then antivirus is a good idea
[07:09] <ranjit> hi
[07:09] <Omnineo> Sedge: realvnc.com
[07:09] <Sedge> gotcha
[07:09] <Seveas> Sedge, forget vnc
[07:09] <Seveas> use freenx :)
[07:09] <darksoul> sould i make a forum for linux/anything else?
[07:10] <Seveas> darksoul, there are enough of those already :)
[07:10] <jeff_> does anyone know how to get Limewire on ubuntu?
[07:10] <NoUse> !limewire
[07:10] <ubotu> well, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[07:10] <Seveas> !botsnack
[07:10] <ubotu> thanks seveas :)
[07:10] <stuporglue> Jeff Waugh is supposed to visit our UUG tomorrow as part of the BadgerBadgerBadger tour, but I don't know when to get him from the airport. Does anyone know where he's at?
[07:10] <deFrysk> :D
[07:10] <darksoul> Seveas: grrrrrrrr lol..is 384mb ram good on linux for games like doom3, wow, and such>
[07:11] <fletch33> bimberi, well i just got started on linux in general 4 days ago and i looked around a choose ubu the server does nothing but hold my 490Gb of info and downolads my videos and stuff and my laptop is for comtroilling it and my laptop is for email and contacts for work so what do u t
[07:11] <ispiked> how much SATA support does Ubuntu provide for laptops?
[07:11] <Seveas> darksoul, only with a large amount of swap :)
[07:11] <Seveas> ispiked, full
[07:11] <vagrant> hello,every one
[07:11] <fletch33> bimberi, think
[07:11] <Seveas> hi vagrant
[07:11] <phoghawk> Can anyone help me fix an odd ALSA problem (I think it's ALSA). My system seems to freeze after playing music for a few minutes. It often freezes between track changes if that's important.
[07:11] <darksoul> Seaveas: would 1024mb make games run fast?
[07:12] <ispiked> Seveas: so all the stuff on this page wouldn't apply? http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problems_with_SATA_and_Linux
[07:12] <Seveas> darksoul, with most games, the graphics card is the bottleneck
[07:12] <ispiked> Seveas: core issue: I think I can't suspend to disk (hibernate) because I'm using SATA.
[07:12] <jesse_> jeff_: sorry, i walked away. are you still having issues with limewire?
[07:13] <bimberi> fletch33: if they're both ubuntu i'd be happy to run them w/o firewall/antivirus
[07:13] <crimsun> phoghawk: cat /proc/asound/cards
[07:13] <fletch33> bimberi,  i keep getting unable to resolve host
[07:13] <Seveas> ispiked, I think the issue s something else
[07:13] <fletch33> bim
[07:13] <phoghawk> crimsun, are you saying I should type that in a terminal and paste output here?
[07:13] <ispiked> stuporglue: I sure hope you find him, 'cause he's awesome.
[07:13] <Seveas> suspend to disk and sata should work together
[07:13] <darksoul> how hard was it for you to delete windows and then get on with life afterwards>
[07:13] <ispiked> stuporglue: he talked at our LUG meeting last wednesday.
[07:13] <crimsun> phoghawk: no, you should paste the output onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:14] <maquis> ispiked: yeah... he's supposed to talk at ours tomorrow night
[07:14] <ispiked> Seveas: OK. I'll post what I have on the forums.
[07:14] <ispiked> Seveas: unless you want to hear it first. :P
[07:14] <fletch33> bimberi, would a restart help matbe
[07:14] <Seveas> stuporglue, try to ping mdz, sabdfl or mako - they should have his mobile number
[07:14] <Seveas> or contact the canonical office
[07:14] <bimberi> fletch33: you probably should just use the ip address
[07:15] <maquis> Seveas: according to his blog, he doesn't have his cell phone anymore... but we'll try that
[07:15] <phoghawk> crimsun, I Pasted
[07:15] <fletch33> bimberi, can u tell me how to do that simply or is that too much info
[07:15] <phoghawk> crimsun, I have output, it just freezes after awhile.
[07:15] <darksoul>  why did you all delete windows? and how hard was it with so little gaming support......
[07:16] <phoghawk> darksoul, I don't game on PC. That's how. lol. I can't believe you're still here darksoul
[07:16] <bimberi> fletch33: no, open a terminal and type ifconfig, look for something after "inet addr" that isn't 127.0.0.1
[07:16] <darksoul> phoghawk: shutup lol
[07:17] <fletch33> bimberi, k doing that
[07:17] <crimsun> phoghawk: so which card are you using when it "freezes"?
[07:17] <darksoul> phoghawk: when is ubuntu going to start selling in stores? i would love to know lol
[07:17] <phoghawk> crimsun, THe Audigy
[07:17] <z3r0x> what are backports?
[07:17] <phoghawk> darksoul, I think you're joking. But I'm not sure
[07:18] <Omnineo> darksoul: do you have your videocard 3d drivers installed?
[07:18] <NoUse> darksoul why sell it when you can give it away?
[07:18] <phoghawk> z3r0x, They're some repositories
[07:18] <darksoul> Omnineo: yes..it just lags real bad in the game
[07:18] <jeff_> darksoul: i deleted windows because i hate M$ and found that supporting linux is the socially responsible thing to do
[07:18] <fletch33> bimberi, so i want my external ot internal sddress
[07:19] <fletch33> bimberi, bad typing sorry
[07:19] <darksoul> jeff: yea, but no games support really....anyway i deleted windows couse im pissed at M$ and i had just gotten rootkit..and i didint want to reinstall
[07:19] <jesse_> jeff_: but how else will you play BF2, CS:S, and other direct-x games natively?!?!?!
[07:19] <bimberi> fletch33: internal i would say
[07:19] <jesse_> i keep windows for games
[07:19] <fletch33> bimberi,  like the 192.---
[07:19] <bimberi> fletch33: yep
[07:20] <fletch33> bimberi, k
[07:20] <darksoul> jesse: i did keep it for games..then i got rootkit and deleted it asap
[07:20] <bimberi> fletch33: unfortunately i've gtg, but that's probably a good thing for you because there's some smart people here who can hopefully help (they might need some background tho) :)
[07:20] <hyphenated> darksoul: there's a shop here that sells boxed sets
[07:20] <maquis> seveas do you have any info on how we could get ahold of those people (or the canonical office)?  it appears that none of them are online currently.
[07:20] <maquis> er....
[07:20] <jesse_> darksoul: i can see how a rootkit would deter you, but i would just opt for a reinstall ... cmon ... BF2!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:20] <maquis> seveas isn't around anymore...
[07:21] <fletch33> bimberi,  well thnaks
[07:21] <darksoul> jesse_: reinstall = 9 hours, 10 hours for my online games, then another 2 days for rest
[07:21] <bimberi> fletch33: good luck
[07:21] <fletch33> bimberi,  have a good night
[07:21] <hyphenated> darksoul: for a laugh, go to http://dse.co.nz and search for ubuntu (or fedora or other ones like that)
[07:21] <darksoul> jesse_: Also, dont forget reinstalling linux, windows restore software = bad
[07:22] <Victor> Who is the chairman to Community Council ?sabdfl?
[07:22] <jesse_> darksoul: you dont keep a backup windows image?
[07:22] <darksoul> hyphenated: hahahah 5$ for ubuntu
[07:23] <phoghawk> crimsun, sorry, my computer froze lol
[07:23] <crimsun> phoghawk: does the computer freeze hard, forcing you to reboot?
[07:23] <jeff_> jesse_: yeah im trying to get the necessary java packages to see if it will work after that
[07:23] <crimsun> phoghawk: and how have you determined that it's related to ALSA?
[07:23] <phoghawk> crimsun, yes, any sound that was outputting loops the last half second or so
[07:24] <jesse_> jeff_: yeah, limewire works just fine with a correctly installed java syatem
[07:24] <phoghawk> crimsun, well it doesn't always loop. Sometimes it's just a high-pitched continuous tone
[07:24] <phoghawk> crimsun, No, it's just a guess. i really have no idea
[07:24] <jeff_> jesse_: lol i dont know man, im in school and games are like my achilles tendon
[07:24] <jeff_> jesse_: what do i need for that
[07:24] <jeff_> ?
[07:24] <crimsun> phoghawk: does not using snd-emu10k1 (i.e., force-unloading the module) prevent the crash? That will necessitate using the cmipci for a while.
[07:25] <Bollenator> little help: I've been watching my fs_used field in torsmo rise by 10-30 MB per day since installing it; anyone know of a good way to track down extra MBs?
[07:25] <phoghawk> crimsun, I'm not exactly a linux expert lol. Perhaps you could explain what cmipci is? as well as how to force-unload the module
[07:25] <Bollenator> it's not /tmp (only 118K)
[07:26] <phoghawk> crimsun, is cmpci just my onboard sound?
[07:26] <jedrick> how to remove install programs?
[07:26] <crimsun> phoghawk: in a Terminal, type: echo snd-emu10k1 | sudo tee -a /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[07:26] <phoghawk> jedrick, apt-get remove programname
[07:26] <crimsun> phoghawk: then reboot
[07:26] <deFrysk> jedrick, sudo apt-get remove <package>
[07:26] <phoghawk> crimsun, thank you sir
[07:27] <jedrick> it says that theres no file and theres nothing to remove, why is that
[07:27] <phoghawk> crimsun, I'm rebooting, I'll be back
[07:27] <jesse_> jeff_: i dont understand? i thought you were getting java for limewire?
[07:27] <deFrysk> jedrick, package = packagenamewithoutanynumbersetc
[07:28] <jedrick> k
[07:28] <jedrick> deFrysk: same dude
[07:28] <deFrysk> jedrick, what package ?
[07:29] <jedrick> xmame, a game emulator
[07:29] <deFrysk> jedrick, installed with a .deb ?
[07:29] <jedrick> no, apt
[07:29] <Bollenator> hmmm, any ideas?
[07:29] <deFrysk> apt-get remove xmame
[07:29] <deFrysk> should do it
[07:29] <jeff_> jesse_: i am, but what do i need for a correct java installation?
[07:29] <jedrick> Package xmame is not installed, so not removed
[07:30] <deFrysk> jedrick, apt installs .deb's
[07:30] <deFrysk> jedrick, then its already uninstalled
[07:30] <jedrick> no it's not coz i can even play using the command xmame -x11 bla blah blah
[07:30] <deFrysk> jedrick, see if you can find the package in synaptic if its still there
[07:31] <jedrick> ok
[07:31] <jesse_> jeff_: the guide ubotu gave you should work
[07:31] <jesse_> !java
[07:31] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:32] <phoghawk> who was helping me with my soundcarred?
[07:33] <deFrysk> phoghawk, crimsun was
[07:33] <phoghawk> deFrysk, thanks
[07:33] <jedrick> deFrysk: ye it's still in there, there are four of them xmame-common, -sdl, -svga and -tools
[07:33] <phoghawk> crimsun, It's weird I ran that command and rebooted. Should I still have sound coming out of the Audigy? Because I do
[07:34] <deFrysk> jedrick, uninstall the ones who are installed
[07:34] <crimsun> uh...
[07:34] <crimsun> phoghawk: paste the output of lsmod onto paste
[07:34] <phoghawk> crimsun, just run "lsmod"?
[07:34] <jedrick> ok
[07:35] <phoghawk> crimsun, I pasted it
[07:36] <crimsun> phoghawk: next time please pass me the url, thanks
[07:36] <daaku> any bash guru's? i seem to have forgotten how to do a not on a condition (something like if !grep foo bar; then echo "no"; fi)
[07:36] <eric__> how to install a gz package?
[07:36] <H-moon> good morning.
[07:36] <eric__> tar somefile
[07:37] <phoghawk> crimsun, sorry, do you still need it?
[07:37] <eric__> then how to do next?
[07:37] <deFrysk> eric__, what package ?
[07:38] <eric__> x download
[07:38] <deFrysk> eric__, needed for ?
[07:38] <eric__> downloading software
[07:39] <cafuego> eric__: What does the .tar.gz file contain?
[07:39] <deFrysk> eric__, use wget or gwget
[07:39] <eric__> makefile.am, install
[07:39] <crimsun> phoghawk: tail /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[07:39] <cafuego> eric__: What *software*, not what files
[07:39] <deFrysk> eric__, or aget
[07:39] <eric__> I don't know how to install it.
[07:39] <cafuego> !+compiling
[07:39] <ubotu> Compiling software when you have no idea what you're doing is _not_ a good idea. You will probably end up breaking your system and you can safely assume nobody here will want to help you after that. If there is a precompiled version, just use THAT instead. Really.
[07:40] <deFrysk> thank you ubotu :D
[07:40] <eric__> downloader for X
[07:41] <deFrysk> eric__, find downloaders in synaptic , there are lots
[07:41] <casey_> Can anybody help me? I have a real problem with ubuntu. There seems to be a glitch or something.
[07:41] <phoghawk> crimsun, do you want me to paste that output? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4556
[07:41] <phoghawk> casey_, just ask the question
[07:41] <eric__> Do you know any other download tools for ubuntu?
[07:42] <darkness> What exactly do download toosl do?
[07:42] <cafuego> eric__: For downloading _what_ specifically? Just files from ther web? use a web browser.
[07:42] <darkness> Do they just download things for you, or do they install them too?
[07:42] <Astxist> isn't there a download manager in the package manager?
[07:42] <johnsie2k> what is the pengin liberation front?
[07:42] <johnsie2k> !plf
[07:42] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, johnsie2k
[07:42] <eric__> but I find the web browser too slow
[07:42] <cafuego> johnsie2k: google is your friend
[07:43] <varsendagger> milkn, echo -e "nameserver 4.2.2.1" > /etc/resolv.conf
[07:43] <eric__> I never use linux before
[07:43] <varsendagger> --never mind
[07:43] <cafuego> eric__: Upgrade your internet connection.
[07:43] <johnsie2k> lol
[07:43] <eric__> deFrysk: Where are you from?
[07:43] <cafuego> eric__: You're not going to be able to speed up the downloads by installing extra software; byd efault it downloads at the maximum speed you connect at (or the server is connected at)
[07:43] <casey_> When I first installed Ubuntu on my computer I was able to set my monitor to 1024x768 at 75 hz. I uninstalled everything from my hard drive and repartitioned because it also had Windows XP and it was having problems. When I reinstalled Ubuntu I am no longer able to use 75 hz. My only option is 60 hz which my eyes can pick up on and it gives me migraines.
[07:44] <phoghawk> casey_, Try reconfiguring xserver-xorg
[07:44] <varsendagger> hey i am trying to configure fluxbox and i need to find out how to start programs with the menu
[07:44] <casey_> I have no idea what that means.
[07:44] <casey_> I'm a linux newbie.
[07:44] <eric__> cafuego: Could I know where you are from?
[07:44] <phoghawk> casey_, open a terminal and type: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:45] <cafuego> eric__: Same place as deFrysk
[07:45] <deFrysk> venus
[07:45] <cafuego> plus or minus a few hundred K
[07:45] <deFrysk> planning to move to mars tho ;p
[07:45] <H-moon> um, how do i get a root password in unbuntu?
[07:45] <eric__> Netherland?
[07:45] <NoUse> !tell H-moon about root
[07:45] <cafuego> Yep.
[07:45] <deFrysk> !tell H-moon about root
[07:45] <H-moon> thanks
[07:45] <phoghawk> !tell phoghawk about root
[07:45] <phoghawk> lol
[07:46] <deFrysk> dang NoUse
[07:46] <varsendagger> !tell me about root
[07:47] <Madpilot> !tell casey_ about fixres
[07:47] <ElBarono> hi
[07:47] <phoghawk> crimsun, are you still here or are you just doing some researching
[07:47] <phoghawk> Hello ElBarono
[07:47] <ElBarono> is there a fix for the BADSIG problem yet?
[07:47] <coolstranger> hello
[07:47] <coolstranger> melissa
[07:47] <phoghawk> !tell phoghawk about fixres
[07:47] <coolstranger> hi
[07:47] <phoghawk> lol
[07:47] <varsendagger> !tell varsendagger about root
[07:48] <varsendagger> danmit
[07:48] <varsendagger> !root
[07:48] <ubotu> somebody said root was disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:48] <phoghawk> someone tell ubotu to tell me about fixres
[07:48] <darkness> Hey, does anyone know if there are some GOOD tutorials on using the terminal for people new to Ubuntu?
[07:48] <crimsun> phoghawk: I'm actually at work
[07:48] <crimsun> phoghawk: /msg ubotu fixres
[07:48] <grace_> wow
[07:48] <phoghawk> crimsun, oh sorry
[07:48] <grace_> is there a seperate channel for edubuntu
[07:49] <Madpilot> grace_: #edubuntu
[07:49] <varsendagger> what is special aobut edubuntu?
[07:49] <grace_> there is this teachers tools on the edubuntu site
[07:49] <phoghawk> crimsun, messaging ubotu isn't helping. Nothing happens. I feel dumb
[07:49] <varsendagger> --- i know it is for education
[07:49] <dude> how do i open the uneverse and multiverse
[07:49] <crimsun> phoghawk: eh, no wonder. You made a typo. It's not "snd-cmu10k1", it's "snd-emu10k1".
[07:49] <Madpilot> !tell dude about repos
[07:49] <darkness> OooO, i did that ladt night dude!
[07:49] <ElBarono> hi, can someone please tell me WTF is the fix for the BADSIG problem?
[07:49] <deFrysk> !tell dude about repositories
[07:49] <ElBarono> this is getting annoying
[07:49] <crimsun> phoghawk: you're not identified to services
[07:49] <cafuego> !gpgerr
[07:49] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[07:49] <grace_> I want to suggest they look at including moodle.org
[07:49] <varsendagger> dude, y'll ahve to add it to the sources.list
[07:50] <grace_> they seem like minded
[07:50] <cafuego> !info moodle
[07:50] <ubotu> moodle: (Course Management System for Online Learning), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.5.2-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 13124 kB, Installed size: 81040 kB
[07:50] <dude> oh yeah sources list
[07:50] <cafuego> moodle is in 'universe'.
[07:50] <grace_> ok well thats great cause thats my next question
[07:50] <cafuego> ElBarono: ... or use a different mirror.
[07:50] <dude> how do i open sources list in the command line
[07:50] <grace_> where do I find this universe and multiverse sources business
[07:50] <cafuego> dude: any text editor.
[07:50] <grace_> I have to show a windows user
[07:51] <cafuego> dude: 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'
[07:51] <deFrysk> dude, sudo <anyeditor> /path/to/whatever
[07:51] <cafuego> !repos
[07:51] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[07:52] <grace_> ah yes I was next off to synaptic
[07:53] <dude> it says uncomment two lines these? ##
[07:53] <phoghawk> crimsun, sorry, another computer freeze. How do I reverse my typo. And what should I actually type again?
[07:53] <H-moon> um, is there a !tell for networking with a powerPC?
[07:53] <NoUse> H-moon networking shoudl be the same for all archs
[07:54] <H-moon> i see...
[07:54] <shadowpool> hello all
[07:54] <crimsun> phoghawk: edit /etc/hotplug/blacklist using an editor. Change cmu10k1 to emu10k1
[07:54] <phoghawk> crimsun, okay
[07:54] <phoghawk> crimsun, then reboot?
[07:54] <H-moon> i can see my router, but i cant connect to the internet....
[07:54] <H-moon> i dont know where to go from there.
[07:54] <crimsun> phoghawk: yes
[07:55] <varsendagger> H-moon,  echo -e "nameserver 4.2.2.1" > /etc/resolv.conf
[07:55] <NoUse> H-moon did you get an IP address from the touer?
[07:55] <phoghawk> crimsun, okay, brb
[07:55] <shadowpool> has anyone tried nexuiz on ubuntu?
[07:55] <grace_> should i turn on the back-port repositories or better to remove them?
[07:55] <H-moon> no, i assigned one.
[07:55] <r0d> greeting oo-boon-tu-ers
[07:55] <dude> how do i open up the sources so i can open the universe
[07:56] <NoUse> H-moon did you assing a gateway?
[07:56] <crimsun> dude: use Synaptic> Settings> Repositories
[07:56] <grace_> dude, I just did same and its excellent
[07:56] <grace_> should i turn on the back-port repositories or better to remove them?
[07:57] <grace_> im running an amd sempron and some of the package indexes for amd64 were not found
[07:57] <dude> ok i opened that up now what
[07:57] <grace_> dude, search for what you want to install
[07:57] <H-moon> NoUse: it seems i didnt.
[07:57] <workbean> urggh... gpgv errors again
[07:57] <grace_> or rather
[07:57] <NoUse> H-moon that would do it, usually the gateway is the IP of the router
[07:57] <grace_> !repos
[07:57] <ubotu> hmm... repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[07:58] <Madpilot> grace_: leaving the backports out unless there's something you specifically need is usually a good idea
[07:58] <dude> thats it
[07:58] <dude> and then ad
[07:58] <dude> add
[07:58] <H-moon> NoUse: it is...
[07:58] <Madpilot> dude: read the first URL in ubotu's post above, it'll walk you through the process
[07:59] <phoghawk> crimsun, Hey, I'm sound-free lol. So... now what do I do?
[08:00] <NoUse> H-moon so its working now?
[08:00] <kapputu> any resources on improving performance with low memory computers?
[08:00] <r0d> how here is a dapper user? thoughts if so
[08:00] <r0d> *who
[08:01] <NoUse> kapputu might want to run XFCE instead of gnome
[08:01] <H-moon> NoUse: no, i cant figure out how to add the gateway.
[08:01] <intelikey> kapputu what are you calling "low memory" ?
[08:01] <kapputu> NoUse, that takes out the fun
[08:01] <kapputu> 256meg
[08:01] <kapputu> P-III 850
[08:01] <NoUse> H-moon have you tried the gnome network settings program?
[08:01] <H-moon> *nods*
[08:02] <H-moon> apps --> sys tools --> network tools?
[08:02] <NoUse> H-moon yeah
[08:02] <kapputu> intelikey, this is a laptop with a 4200 rpm drive
[08:03] <kapputu> breezy is like there is no breeze at all
[08:03] <NoUse> H-moon click on the eth device and click properties
[08:03] <NoUse> H-moon you'll see it
[08:03] <intelikey> kapputu rule of thumb, killing anything you don't need helps in most cases.
[08:04] <H-moon> Nouse, i have a configure button...
[08:04] <Cryptid> IS there a keyboard short cut to shutdown the computer?????
[08:04] <H-moon> but it doesnt do any thing...
[08:04] <NoUse> H-moon are you running breezy?
[08:04] <H-moon> er, whats breezy?
[08:04] <NoUse> H-moon version of ubuntu
[08:05] <H-moon> i dont know, its the latest one for the PPC
[08:05] <intelikey> Cryptid [ctrl] +[alt] +[del]    normally restarts it but you cna set that to power off if you like.
[08:05] <pepsi> what ever happened to grumpy?
[08:05] <NoUse> H-moon does your router not act as a DHCP server?
[08:05] <kapputu> intelikey, how do I find that out?
[08:05] <H-moon> yes
[08:05] <kapputu> intelikey, I ran ps but found that I was running stuff that I was using
[08:05] <NoUse> H-moon so why not use that?
[08:06] <H-moon> cause i didn't know how to have the card auto asign ^////^
[08:06] <zack_> is it possible to play .wmv files?
[08:06] <intelikey> kapputu trial and error in your case would probably work.  ps ax  and start at the dubble digets
[08:06] <Cryptid> intelikey, how do i set it to power off?
[08:06] <NoUse> H-moon it should ahve defaulted to DHCP
[08:06] <cafuego> You can even make a right mouse-click shut the computer off :-)
[08:06] <McJerry> how do i get spdif output to work?
[08:07] <H-moon> oh.. ok
[08:07] <intelikey> Cryptid in /etc/inittab   man inittab   for info on it.
[08:07] <phoghawk_> crimsun, Okay, my computer froze for no reason. I'm guessing that's a bad sign
[08:07] <bets> hello
[08:07] <phoghawk_> crimsun, anyways what should I do now?
[08:07] <bets> how is everyone
[08:07] <crimsun> phoghawk_: run memtest on it. Choose it from the GRUB menu
[08:08] <kapputu> ah evolution alarm-notify is running in the background
[08:08] <zack_> is there something i can download in the package manager that will play .WMV files?
[08:08] <NoUse> zack_ mplayer
[08:08] <zack_> thanks
[08:09] <NoUse> H-moon run 'lsb_release -a' from a terminal and tell me what it says next to codename
[08:09] <McJerry> how do i get spdif output to work?
[08:09] <kapputu> intelikey, how do I find out about CPU usage and memory apart from System Monitor
[08:09] <Cryptid> intelikey, can i set some other combination of keys such as [ctrl] +[alt] +S to shutdown the system?
[08:09] <crimsun> McJerry: use plug:iec958 as the ALSA output device
[08:09] <kapputu> I don't know how to interpret System monitor's results
[08:09] <NoUse> McJerry depends on the type of card, just the mixer and make sure the volume is on
[08:10] <phoghawk_> crimsun, I don't understand memtest lol. What should I look for?
[08:10] <intelikey> Cryptid yes but read the man page on it.  'man inittab '
[08:10] <crimsun> phoghawk_: just choose it and press Enter
[08:10] <H-moon> oh.... fuck
[08:10] <crimsun> phoghawk_: if something's wrong, you'll be able to tell
[08:10] <kapputu> what's bonobo??
[08:10] <intelikey> kapputu top ?
[08:10] <H-moon> um, i gues its not good to restart you system with the disk in...
[08:10] <NoUse> H-moon ?
[08:10] <crimsun> kapputu: it's a CORBA implementation
[08:11] <NoUse> H-moon what disk?
[08:11] <ali> hi can anyone guide me which is the best programming language for network programming
[08:11] <ali> thanks in advance
[08:11] <McJerry> amd64 msi k8neo with onboard audio
[08:11] <intelikey> kapputu use 'man blah '
[08:11] <dikadika> Which packages does one install in order to install the kernel source packages? in 5.10
[08:11] <kapputu> yeah I ran top too but it just shows Xorg, Firefox etc running
[08:11] <McJerry> have checked and audio not muted in gnome
[08:11] <H-moon> er.... the install cd
[08:11] <kapputu> intelikey, there was bonobo-activation-server running
[08:11] <kapputu> couldn't find a man page for that
[08:11] <crimsun> McJerry: you need to unmute the iec958 elements
[08:11] <NoUse> H-moon you can cancell the installation before it does any damage
[08:11] <H-moon> <-- feels real stupid.
[08:12] <H-moon> well i could have, but it desided that it wanted to erease the OS.
[08:12] <kapputu> why would firefox take 116m
[08:12] <H-moon> yay.... yay me
[08:12] <kapputu> I have 7 tabs open
[08:12] <phoghawk_> crimsun, okay
[08:12] <NoUse> H-moon the installation doesn't start until you tell it to
[08:12] <H-moon> i guess thats what you get for doing this at 2 in the morning...
[08:12] <McJerry> crimsun.... haven't messed with linux since 2001....where do i unmute the iec950 elements?
[08:12] <intelikey> ali java is popular
[08:13] <crimsun> McJerry: Volume Control, or alsamixer in the console
[08:13] <H-moon> ill be back tomarow if i cant get it to work...
[08:13] <kapputu> warty was better actually
[08:13] <H-moon> but thanks NoUse, your were a big help ^_+^
[08:13] <NoUse> H-moon good luck
[08:13] <intelikey> ooops havent killed cron yet....  bbiab
[08:13] <H-moon> thanks
[08:16] <kapputu> I think it's firefox that's slow
[08:17] <nomed> how can i chroot /path and use xterm? mainly x apps?
[08:17] <H-moon> ahha! stupid powerbook tricked me!
[08:19] <H-moon> NoUse:
[08:19] <H-moon> er
[08:20] <NoUse> H-moon I'm leaving soon
[08:20] <NoUse> H-moon whats up?
[08:20] <H-moon> it is breezy
[08:20] <NoUse> H-moon ok, can you get the network settings app to work?
[08:21] <H-moon> um, let me check
[08:21] <H-moon> still wont do anything when i press the config button
[08:22] <NoUse> H-moon something is wrong there
[08:22] <H-moon> seems that way.
[08:23] <H-moon> *sigh*
[08:23] <GTroy> hate to ask this, how do I change a wav file into an mp3?
[08:23] <H-moon> i should be doing this with a clear head...
[08:23] <NoUse> H-moon you can edit settings manual via /etc/network/interfaces
[08:23] <intelikey> hmmm i've got 9m of space in which to install 40m of data.......   something will have to go.
[08:24] <NoUse> H-moon see man 5 interfaces for syntax
[08:24] <cafuego> intelikey: trash emacs
[08:24] <intelikey> not installed
[08:24] <mcjerry> crimsun:  please excuse ignorance, am in alsamixer IEC958 set to PCM, IEC958 P unmuted
[08:24] <mcjerry> suggestions?
[08:25] <NoUse> H-moon I'm out, good luck
[08:25] <H-moon> night and thanks
[08:25] <r0d> how can you trash gnome. its super cool
[08:25] <concept10> anyone torcs players here?
[08:25] <r0d> beats the gooy filled kde
[08:25] <intelikey> super cool to you is junk to me....
[08:25] <Razor-X> concept10: torcs?
[08:26] <crimsun> mcjerry: too vague. I need the output from amixer on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:26] <concept10> Razor-X, The open race car simulator
[08:26] <r0d> i c intelikey you like the windows look...
[08:26] <Razor-X> concept10: oh, then no then :P
[08:26] <concept10> I wish it was a network game, I am the ultimate driver
[08:27] <intelikey> r0d nope that is why i don't like gnome :)
[08:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> how would i play a .m4v in linux?
[08:27] <Cryptid> intelikey, help me man i am unable to undetstand anything ,,, all i want to do is to be able to shutdown my box by pressing a combination of keys such as ctrl+alt+s
[08:27] <r0d> intelikey, gnome look like windoze? nonsense my friend. kde is the windows alternative
[08:27] <H-moon> (man 5?)
[08:28] <r0d> intelikey, or you so 13373, you dont use gui for desktop
[08:28] <Bobby> hai
[08:28] <cafuego> If you configure them right, both [do|don't]  look like windoze.
[08:28] <cafuego> So either way, the point is moot.
[08:28] <Bobby> gg
[08:28] <intelikey> Cryptid msg me the line in etc/inittab that says ctrl+alt+del
[08:28] <H-moon> whats "an 5"?
[08:28] <H-moon> *man 5
[08:28] <grace_> darn play a dvd didnt work
[08:28] <deus> How can i add a root account?
[08:28] <johnsie2k> anyone know how to install a gnome theme.... i've downloaded a tar from gnome-look.org
[08:28] <cafuego> section 5 of the man pages.
[08:29] <grace_> !libdvdcss
[08:29] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, grace_
[08:29] <cafuego> !root
[08:29] <ubotu> [root]  disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:29] <intelikey> r0d desktop is windowish,   console only  :)
[08:29] <cafuego> !dvdcss
[08:29] <ubotu> dvdcss is, like, totally, install 'libdvdread3' and then run 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh'
[08:29] <grace_> !dvdcss
[08:29] <grace_> ;^)
[08:29] <deus> Or how can i connect to the web based cups configuration system!?
[08:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know what m4v is, and what player might play it?
[08:29] <cafuego> mpeg 4 video
[08:29] <cafuego> what's on a dvd
[08:30] <Cryptid> intelikey, # What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed. (flowing is in the next line)
[08:30] <Cryptid> ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now
[08:30] <deus> Or how can i connect to the web based cups configuration system without a root account?!?
[08:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> i just re
[08:31] <tito> what are some good desktop environments other than gnome and kde?
[08:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> i just re-installed ubuntu.  can someone tell me what to install to get back proprietary format support, like for wma and divx?
[08:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> tito fluxbox
[08:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> err..that's just a wm
[08:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> xfce
[08:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> gnome, kde, and xfce really are the leaders.
[08:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> i think, overall, gnome is the best.
[08:31] <tito> i have xfce4 and flux.....any others
[08:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> kde still owns it in a few areas though
[08:32] <tito> i use gnome now
[08:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> flux is not a desktop environment, just a window manager to my knowledge
[08:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> gnome rules.
[08:32] <Bobby> dd
[08:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> i have used kde for a long time
[08:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> i seriously think gnome is the best choice overall.
[08:32] <polpak> The only other desktop environment I know of is Enlightenment
[08:32] <mcjerry> crimsun: output posted
[08:33] <d03boy> i need some help mounting a partition... the problem is that i dont know which partition i need mounted (the naem of it)
[08:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> d03boy you could easily look at that with gparted
[08:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> d03boy if you don't like using cfdisk, just install and run gparted
[08:34] <intelikey> sudo fdisk -l
[08:34] <darkness> Hey, i have compiled a simple program which was written in c++, it just uses a comand line thingy to input/output information. I cannot open this unless i do it through the terminal. No problem about that except that i forgot the code to open it.
[08:34] <pulaski> hello
[08:34] <darkness> So, how do i open a file from the terminal?
[08:34] <polpak> darkness, ./filename will run your program
[08:34] <kapputu> gedit filename
[08:34] <d03boy> darkness, is it compiled already/
[08:34] <darkness> Thanks.
[08:35] <darkness> Yeah, i remember how to compile it.
[08:35] <darkness> new it was something like ./...
[08:35] <polpak> darkness, The program has to be in your path, or you have to supply the path
[08:35] <polpak> darkness, So by typing ./file you are telling your shell to run the program file in the current (./) directory
[08:35] <d03boy> does ubuntu use apt to install software?
[08:35] <darkness> Yeah, it is in the right path.
[08:35] <polpak> d03boy, yes
[08:36] <darkness> I just couldn't remember the line to open it.
[08:36] <nemik> anyone here use netbeans?
[08:36] <darkness> Tried programming in Java and didn't like it..
[08:36] <d03boy> i dont really like having to type sudo before all this stuff :(
[08:36] <grace_> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh complains about no acceptable c compiler found
[08:36] <intelikey> Cryptid you get any of that ?
[08:36] <nemik> d03boy, passwd root
[08:36] <polpak> d03boy, you can use sudo -s to get a shell
[08:36] <nemik> or that
[08:36] <deus> Or how can i connect to the web based cups configuration system without a root account?!?
[08:37] <Cryptid> intelikey, well i am tring to understand it,,,,
[08:37] <nagual> I have set up an ubuntu email server using postfix, and cyrus imap.  I can use evolution from a different machine on my network and send mails just fine, but cannot recieve them.  Any suggestions on where to start the troubleshooting?
[08:37] <d03boy> this gparted is nice..
[08:37] <darkness> How do i become a registered user here?
[08:37] <mcjerry> how do i unmute spdif in alsamixer?
[08:37] <polpak> d03boy, yea, it's partition magic for the rest of us =)
[08:37] <Cryptid> intelikey, i understood which commd is to be used but i dunno how to assign it to combination of keys
[08:38] <grace_> hmmm   gcc 4 base  and   gcc 3 base are already listed in synaptic as being installed
[08:38] <pulaski> I need to create a .deb file from the java 1.5 binary from sun. my apt-get can't find the java-package.  Any suggestions how to proceed?
[08:38] <Juhaz> darkness, /msg nickserv help register
[08:38] <polpak> pulaski, have you enabled the universe and multiverse repos?
[08:38] <darkness> Thanks
[08:38] <pulaski> yes
[08:38] <grace_> what c compiler do I need to install the libdvdcss
[08:38] <intelikey> Cryptid why not go the easy way and use ctrlaltdel  ?
[08:38] <pulaski> I have polpok
[08:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> Couldn't find package mplayer <-- ??
[08:39] <pulaski> thank you for responding
[08:39] <polpak> !find java-package
[08:39] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[08:39] <darkness> REGISTER <poppet>
[08:39] <polpak> it should be there
[08:39] <intelikey> you could also make ctrlaltdel run "init 0 "  which is power off.
[08:39] <darkness> Oops.
[08:39] <Cryptid> intelikey, but i dont want to mess with the default configuration and another reson of not doing that is i will not have a restart system combination
[08:40] <intelikey> init 6 is restart
[08:40] <polpak> Cryptid, what are you trying to do?
[08:40] <intelikey> 'sudo init 6 '
[08:40] <pulaski> ok polpak try'n your suggestion.  Thanks.
[08:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> what do i need in my sources.list to get mplayer?
[08:40] <polpak> !find mplayer
[08:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'mplayer' (11 shown): mozilla-mplayer ;; mplayer-386 ;; mplayer-586 ;; mplayer-686 ;; mplayer-custom ;; mplayer-doc ;; mplayer-fonts ;; mplayer-k6 ;; mplayer-k7 ;; mplayer-nogui ;; xmms-xmmplayer.
[08:41] <Steinbeck1> im trying to listen to a cd....and for some reason i keep getting a buch of beeps?
[08:41] <Cryptid> polpak, i am trying to make a system shutdown keyboard shortcut..
[08:41] <Steinbeck1> anybody know what it could be?
[08:41] <Cryptid> polpak, can u help me with it?
[08:41] <Madpilot> Steinbeck1: electronica?
[08:41] <nagual> I have set up an ubuntu email server using postfix, and cyrus imap.  I can use evolution from a different machine on my network and send mails just fine, but cannot recieve them.  Any suggestions on where to start the troubleshooting?
[08:41] <Steinbeck1> no
[08:41] <Steinbeck1> well i just switched to alsa after it tested it
[08:41] <Steinbeck1> and it seemed fine
[08:41] <d03boy> ive got a question about gnomein ubuntu... how can I get the file browser windows to NOT open up new windows every time?
[08:41] <pulaski> thanks ubotu.
[08:41] <Steinbeck1> when i went to listen to a cd off of it it started beeping
[08:42] <intelikey> Cryptid it's been a while sense i really messed with inittab but a key combo for every option really isn't worth the effort, imo.
[08:42] <intelikey> it's so easy to type init #
[08:42] <mcjerry> crimsun: you still here?
[08:43] <ogami1972> hi channel- today's problem is sound related: I can't seem to record in...
[08:44] <darkness> Can anyone suggest something to do with my computer that would test my knowledge of Ubuntu? Or kinda teach me something....
[08:44] <darkness> I just feel like i should be learning more about it..
[08:45] <ogami1972> turn it inot a linux-based DAW
[08:48] <pulaski> well thanks polac and ubotu.  I'll go search multiverse and universe again.  Any particular section?
[08:48] <polpak> !find java-package
[08:48] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[08:48] <polpak> miscellanous?
[08:48] <Madpilot> pulaski: just use the Search button in Synaptic, it's way easier than trying to hunt thru categories
[08:48] <polpak> I just use synaptic and searc for it
[08:49] <pulaski> multiverse/misc OK!
[08:49] <pulaski> cya
[08:49] <pulaski> thanks Madpilot
[08:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> can someone link me to a working apt-get sources.list?  i just reinstalled, and even after uncommenting most of the lines, i can't get mplayer
[08:51] <nagual_> ok. I have set up an ubuntu email server using postfix, and cyrus imap.  I can use evolution from a different machine on my network and send mails just fine, but cannot recieve them.  Any suggestions on where to start the troubleshooting?
[08:51] <intelikey> Cryptid if i recall correctly setting up additional key combos requires editing keyboard map files.  which i don't like to mess with really, but you feel free too.
[08:51] <Hobbsee> !tell BROKEN_LADDER about repos
[08:51] <nagual_> I think the problem lies with postfix not listening to the outside world.  How can I configure it to do this?
[08:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> Hobbsee it's not working.
[08:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> i don't see any repo information.
[08:52] <Hobbsee> oh?
[08:52] <Hobbsee> !repos
[08:52] <ubotu> I heard repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> thanks
[08:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> that worked
[08:52] <Hobbsee> no problems :)
[08:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> Hobbsee i'm already looking at that site
[08:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> i just want to know which repos to add
[08:53] <Hobbsee> BROKEN_LADDER: copy paste the breezy sources list?
[08:53] <aftertaf> hi Hobbsee :)
[08:53] <Hobbsee> hey aftertaf :)
[08:54] <kestas> I downloaded a vid, and it has an audio codec Audio Codec: MPEG Layer 2/3 (0x55), which I can't decode
[08:54] <polpak> BROKEN_LADDER, Did you apt-get update after uncommenting your sources.list?
[08:54] <msr> join #sevilla
[08:54] <kestas> what should I do to be able to decode the audio?
[08:54] <agtnz> How do I open ports with Linux, like for torrents etc? I tried installing firestarter but it crashes on me...
[08:55] <polpak> kestas, Read the getting started guide.. It tells how to get media formats working
[08:55] <polpak> agtnz,  really?? I haven't had any issues with it. When does it crash?
[08:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> oh crap, i forgot to take out the disc line
[08:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> polpak oh yeah
[08:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> polpak didn't help
[08:56] <agtnz> polpak: I uninstalled it now, but it was after the first screen, just when I pressed 'next'. I'm using a server install of breezy w/ xubuntu installed, that might affect it
[08:57] <polpak> agtnz, I'm not sure.. I assume you have all the gome libs etc?
[08:57] <mcjerry> can anyone help me get spdif out working? card nvidia ck8s , chip realtek alc850
[08:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> http://pastebin.com/430055 <-- my sources.list
[08:57] <agtnz> Yeah, well I would have thought they'd be installed as dependencies anyway. Trying to keep this machine minimal so haven't actually installed the gnome package
[08:58] <BROKEN_LADDER>  Couldn't find package mplayer
[08:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> wtf ..i just want to install mplayer
[08:59] <intelikey> going to super-clean this system,  bbiab
[08:59] <mr-russ> BROKEN_LADDER: aptitude says it's in multiverse.
[08:59] <mr-russ> BROKEN_LADDER: doesn't surpise me, given the license funness with anything video!
[08:59] <grace_> damn dvdcss wont install because the script cant find a compatible c compiler
[09:00] <grace_> what should I install to fix that
[09:00] <agtnz> build-essential?
[09:00] <mr-russ> grace_: do you have gcc installed?
[09:00] <polpak> BROKEN_LADDER, your sources.list does not have multiverse enabled
[09:01] <polpak> BROKEN_LADDER, and mplayer is in multiverse
[09:01] <kestas> polpak, thanks sound's working now
[09:01] <polpak> kemik, np =)
[09:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> ??
[09:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> everything is uncommented
[09:01] <kestas> now to see if everyone was right when they said doom was crap
[09:01] <polpak> kestas,  NP rather =_
[09:01] <mr-russ> BROKEN_LADDER: multiverse is not in sources.list at ALL, you have to add it.
[09:02] <mr-russ> BROKEN_LADDER: add multiverse to the end of your universe line.
[09:02] <polpak> BROKEN_LADDER, then apt-get update
[09:02] <mr-russ> BROKEN_LADDER: your backports has multiverse, but that's it.
[09:02] <mr-russ> polpak: it's not in his sources.list
[09:02] <polpak> mr-russ, I know. I was saying to apt-get update after he adds it
[09:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> thx
[09:04] <grace_> mr-russ, I have gcc 3.3 and gcc 4.0
[09:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> E: Couldn't find package gmplayer
[09:05] <polpak> BROKEN_LADDER, gmplayer isn't in multiverse that I saw I thought you wanted mplayer
[09:06] <polpak> BROKEN_LADDER, just curious, but is there a reason you absolutly must use mplayer? Totem works good...
[09:07] <MARCHEV> ko proite be mushmoroci
[09:07] <eric__> how to uninstall j2sdk
[09:08] <MARCHEV> ubuntu sucks
[09:09] <phil_> why i used "apt-get remove --purge " to remove package but it's still here?
[09:09] <MARCHEV> linux is the best fuck i ever see
[09:09] <Madpilot> phil_: did you use sudo in front of that command?
[09:10] <phil_> yes,i do
[09:10] <phil_> what's the meaning the paramenter "purge"?
[09:12] <GTroy> how do you install a run binary?
[09:12] <GTroy> it's in source code
[09:13] <polpak> GTroy, what program is it?
[09:13] <GTroy> it's called planeshift
[09:13] <GTroy> found it off ubuntu wiki
[09:14] <polpak> afaik it only pretty much depends on crystalspace
[09:14] <GTroy> hmm ok
[09:14] <polpak> but
[09:14] <polpak> it comes precompiled
[09:14] <polpak> it's not source
[09:14] <polpak> you have the .run file?
[09:15] <GTroy> oh yep
[09:15] <GTroy> there's no man page for 'run'
[09:15] <GTroy> if it's a command
[09:15] <polpak> GTroy, chmod +x ./PlaneShift && ./PlaneShift
[09:16] <polpak> but replace PlaneShift with the file name you downloaded
[09:16] <polpak> GTroy, it should  extract the files
[09:16] <GTroy> ok cool
[09:16] <fatehaze> is there any way to get scummvm working on ubuntu?
[09:16] <derrickw> i'm glad that public school so well prepared me for college; having already researched the black death three times, the fourth time has required exceptionally little effort
[09:17] <agtnz> fatehaze: its in the repositories. i have it wrking
[09:17] <eric__> how to uninstall a program??
[09:17] <fatehaze> i tried it, it says that libflac6 is uninstallable
[09:17] <fatehaze> er, as in, not installable
[09:17] <polpak> eric__, Depends on the program
[09:18] <agtnz> fatehaze: weird, worked for me... hmm
[09:18] <fatehaze> i have libflac7, but apparently it depends on libflac6
[09:18] <aftertaf> fatehaze: i find a libflac7
[09:18] <aftertaf> ahh.
[09:18] <ekimus> eric__: apt-get remove <program> (if you installed it over apt-get)
[09:19] <fatehaze> perhaps this is a powerpc bug
[09:20] <eric__> I installed a Java enviroment, but it doesn't work. So I want to uninst it.
[09:20] <agtnz> fatehaze: yea theres a thread on ubuntuforums in which the guy said he solved it by getting libflac6 from debian testing.. hold on
[09:20] <derrickw> if there is ever a outbreak of the black plague in lancaster, i am going to carry a handkerchief that has been dipped in aromatic oil to prevent the smell from reaching me and infecting me
[09:21] <derrickw> unless it's the septicemic plague, in which case i guess i'm fucked
[09:21] <agtnz> fatehaze: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75784&highlight=libflac6
[09:21] <nagual> how can I create a mailbox for a user?
[09:21] <agtnz> fatehaze: dunno how to do that though :P
[09:21] <aftertaf> derrickw: beware language :P
[09:22] <derrickw> aftertaf - are there many young children in a ubuntu support channel?
[09:22] <aftertaf> derrickw: you never know... thats why the CoC exists....
[09:22] <derrickw> aftertaf: fair enough
[09:22] <fatehaze> i'll check it out
[09:22] <GTroy> polpak: thanks working now
[09:22] <fatehaze> thanks guys!
[09:22] <linkd> i dont know what CoC is
[09:22] <polpak> GTroy, cool, glad to hear it
[09:23] <derrickw> anybody know why i can never connect to dal net? it always times out
[09:23] <nec> hey  can anyone tell me how to update 5.04 ubuntu into new breezy dist without downloading iso?
[09:23] <aftertaf> nec, change hoary to breezy in your sources.list
[09:23] <aftertaf> nec then apt-get update / dist-upgrade
[09:23] <nec> ok
[09:24] <nec> i'll try
[09:24] <nec> cu
[09:24] <aftertaf> derrickw: :]   linkd its in the topic
[09:24] <aftertaf> linkd: infact it isnt...but it was ;)
[09:24] <derrickw> i'm so glad breezy updated the file manager to support "back" and "forward"
[09:24] <linkd> ok
[09:24] <Cryptid> I am using Ubuntu Breezy and i find the initial Ubuntu Loading screen where it shows all module loading and mounting local file system pretty booring (Color & design) so is there a way i can change it?????
[09:25] <crimsun> Cryptid: search the forum for usplash modifications
[09:25] <Cryptid> !usplash
[09:25] <ubotu> I heard usplash is for your information, about Usplash : if you use a home-built kernel, required options are initramfs & framebuffer, that's all ... don't take any prerequisites used for bootsplash or patches in consideration
[09:25] <marco_> hello everyone, i'm trying to force quit mplayer, any suggestions?
[09:26] <aftertaf> marco_: KILL....    or console sudo killall mplayer
[09:26] <viviersf> maro_ easiest way :
[09:26] <viviersf> alt+F2 : run xkill
[09:26] <Cryptid> crimsun, have u done this sort of things before? is it easy to change the usplash screen?
[09:26] <viviersf> and click on mplayer
[09:27] <marco_> viviersf, thankls
[09:27] <viviersf> Cryptid, its not hard making your own usplash screen
[09:27] <viviersf> you just have to compile a package
[09:27] <Cryptid> viviersf, i dont want to make one i just want to download a premade and replace my existing one
[09:28] <viviersf> Cryptid, what is your existing one ?
[09:28] <viviersf> the ubuntu one ?
[09:29] <Cryptid> viviersf, ya the ubuntu one (brown and booring)
[09:30] <derrickw> can someone tell me how to get a list of users in a room under x-chat?
[09:30] <viviersf> Cryptid, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[09:30] <viviersf> :)
[09:31] <viviersf> or : edubuntu-artwork-usplash
[09:31] <crimsun> or xubuntu-artwork-usplash
[09:31] <derrickw> i wish i hadn't put my second monitor in the attic. i miss it
[09:32] <ompaul> derrickw, can you see a bar on the right with a series greying lines to the right of the scroll bar?
[09:32] <ulaas> will mono stack be ever updated in breezy?
[09:33] <crimsun> no
[09:33] <crimsun> breezy froze as of oct 13.
[09:33] <derrickw> ompaul - yeah, i found it now, thanks
[09:33] <derrickw> any word on when dapper drake is going to be officially released? i love the name
[09:33] <ompaul> ulaas, a distro does not upgrade it just bug fixes
[09:33] <ulaas> crimsun, backports?
[09:34] <derrickw> i would update to it just for the name. i'm tempted to update to the alpha release just for the name, but that's probably not prudent
[09:34] <crimsun> ulaas: no idea. I presume so. We're working on Dapper currently.
[09:34] <polpak> derrickw, ubuntu is on a  ~ 6 month release cycle..
[09:34] <ompaul> derrickw, some time in april next year most likely and by the way check out definitions online for drake cos this one ain't no duck
[09:34] <Hobbsee> !dapper
[09:34] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release.
[09:34] <Hobbsee> ah
[09:34] <derrickw> ompaul - what does "this one ain't no duck" mean?
[09:35] <ompaul> derrickw, there is more than one meaning for drake
[09:35] <polpak> derrickw, Some kinds of ducks are called "Drakes"
[09:35] <ulaas> ompaul, btw is it clear that it is a duck now?
[09:35] <derrickw> ompaul - yeah, i assumed they weren't referring to the duck
[09:35] <crimsun> no, it's ambiguous what it is.
[09:35] <crimsun> (intentionally ambiguous)
[09:35] <ompaul> hint Mark Shuttleworth has a dragon on his business card
[09:35] <aftertaf> online definitions url please ;)
[09:36] <aftertaf> kde :)
[09:36] <ulaas> it is a duck!
[09:36] <crimsun> sabdfl uses kubuntu, that's why.
[09:36] <ulaas> :)
[09:36] <crimsun> it has no bearing whether it's a duck or a dragon
[09:36] <aftertaf> sabdfl?
[09:36] <aftertaf> its a parrot.
[09:36] <crimsun> self-appointed dictator for life
[09:36] <crimsun> +benevolent
[09:37] <ulaas> oh shuttleworth himself..
[09:37] <derrickw> crimsun - i kind of hope they're referring to the dragon; that would make the title far more ironic. in fact, if they mean a duck, it's not very ironic at all. when is a duck not dapper?
[09:38] <crimsun> derrickw: the point is: Does it even matter at this stage? No. :-)
[09:38] <agtnz> Whats a terminal app that can do transparency - and by transparency I mean the windows behind the terminal, not just the wallpaper.
[09:38] <derrickw> crimsun - then what are we going to argue needlessly about?
[09:38] <ompaul> crimsun, come on, will it ever matter? ;-)
[09:39] <crimsun> derrickw: I'm sure there's an editor war somewhere waiting to be unleashed...
[09:39] <crimsun> ompaul: of course not ;-)
[09:39] <ompaul> !start an editor war
[09:39] <ubotu> gedit is better than xemacs
[09:39] <ulaas> vim rules
[09:39] <cafuego> !literla start an editor war
[09:39] <ubotu> cafuego: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:39] <cafuego> oops
[09:39] <cafuego> !literal start an editor war
[09:39] <ubotu> start an editor war is <reply> (vim|nano|kate|kwrite|ed|jed|joe|notepad|gvim|gedit) is better than (emacs|xemacs)
[09:39] <crimsun> hah
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[09:40] <derrickw> i want to make a career of naming ubuntu releases
[09:40] <derrickw> best career ever
[09:40] <derrickw> any career where i can alliterate the names of animals is a career i want to have
[09:41] <cafuego> pay's a bit crap, though.
[09:41] <ompaul> derrickw, you can do it but will anyone listen I managed the whole alphabet albeit a struggle and I had to use more than one creature from the world of myths
[09:41] <bibe> hi all. Is there a way to configure the network using a GUI in a default Breezy installation? I don't have Ubuntu at the moment, it's just a friend that's asking via jabber
[09:41] <aftertaf> yep its possible
[09:42] <aftertaf> in gui or in console.
[09:42] <derrickw> i think it would have been pretty cool if they had gone in alphabetical order
[09:42] <derrickw> but that's a lot of trouble
[09:42] <ompaul> bibe,  gui system - administration - networking
[09:42] <derrickw> and there's probably someone right now wishing that they had thought of that sooner
[09:43] <bibe> ompaul : and from there can he modify /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:43] <cafuego> bibe: Yes. Also 'sudo etherconf' in a console.
[09:43] <bibe> cafuego : is etherconf a GUI?
[09:43] <cafuego> bibe: Yep.
[09:43] <cafuego> bibe: It's an ncurses based gui
[09:44] <bibe> cafuego : thanks a lot
[09:44] <cafuego> Then again, if people refuse to use software 'coz it has no clicky windows' they need to be neutered.
[09:44] <polpak> bibe, or if you are in gnome theres an easy way too via gui.. Applications->system tools->network tools
[09:44] <henk> what is the 'best' way to go from ubuntu to kubuntu ? is there more to it than apt-get kde ?
[09:45] <aftertaf> derrickw: theyd have been tired by the end of it, imagine the PR for Zonkedout Zebra ?
[09:45] <ompaul> henk, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:45] <aftertaf> henk: kubuntu-desktop
[09:45] <aftertaf> and apt-get remove gnome ;) hehe
[09:45] <icewt> henk: the _best_ way would be to do a clean install of kubuntu
[09:45] <aftertaf> icewt: overkill method
[09:46] <icewt> aftertaf: not if you're going to dump gnome
[09:46] <polpak> icewt, it's not nessicaraly the best way.. but it is certainly the method least likely to cause issues for the average user
[09:47] <icewt> polpak: yeah
[09:47] <derrickw> icewt - i installed kubuntu after i installed ubuntu and i havn't had any problems with it, except for some reason when i restarted the x server while i was trying to set up my nvidia drivers, it kept booting to GNOME instead of KDE
[09:48] <henk> and if i install that will kde be default ? how do i select that ?
[09:48] <derrickw> but by then, i already had everything configured and i didn't feel like doing a complete re-installation
[09:48] <aftertaf> derrickw: dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[09:48] <nagual> How do i install X with apt-get?
[09:48] <Steinbeck1> what advantages is there for kde over gnome?
[09:48] <aftertaf> nagual: sudo aptget install xserver-xorg (+ others surely)
[09:48] <bibe> Steinbeck1 : it's all at the user's discretion
[09:49] <aftertaf> Steinbeck1: different window manager, different environment, question of personal taste more than anything else
[09:49] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, user preference :)
[09:49] <derrickw> steinbeck1 - it's really a matter of personal preference. i think kde runs a little smoother and honestly, i think kde looks sharper
[09:49] <aftertaf> !start a desktop war
[09:49] <ubotu> twm is much better than windowmaker!
[09:50] <polpak> derrickw, well from a programmers perspective, I prefer GTK to QT, so I use gnome
[09:50] <Steinbeck1> anybody know where i can find one of those wickets that holds your icons at the bottom of your screen and whenever you bring your mouse over it..it enlarges...i think its a wicket?
[09:50] <Steinbeck1> i know this is kind of irrelevent...but ive been trying to find it forever
[09:50] <derrickw> steinbeck1 - tell me if you find one for KDE; i wouldn't mind that myself
[09:50] <onkarshinde> Can anyone tel me exact procedure to rsize /usr partition using gparted?
[09:50] <bibe> Steinbeck1 : at this very moment, Ubuntu ships a more polished version of Gnome than of KDE, but KDE is getting closer. By next release I think the two desktop environment will be equivalent
[09:51] <mustard5> onkarshinde, step one would be backup data :)
[09:51] <agtnz> Steinbeck1: I know that as a dock
[09:51] <Steinbeck1> yes gnome is fine
[09:51] <Steinbeck1> yes!
[09:51] <Steinbeck1> a dock!
[09:51] <icewt> derrickw: i don't think it should cause any (big) problems, but if you want to get all the gnome stuff out, clean install may be the easiest for a new user
[09:51] <agtnz> Steinbeck1: I only have used Windows ones though, dunno what Linux ones are called
[09:52] <Steinbeck1> gnome is great...id just like to get that dock and everything would be perfect
[09:52] <derrickw> yeah i would love an aqua style dock for kubuntu
[09:52] <g8m> /p
[09:52] <onkarshinde> mustard5: Ok. Step 2 please.
[09:52] <mustard5> :)
[09:53] <mustard5> onkarshinde, I've always been too lazy to finish step one.  Never got to step two :)
[09:53] <onkarshinde> Steinbeck1: Have you tried gdesklets? May be you will find something useful in it.
[09:53] <shtron> Hi, I have a weird problem in breezy: dhcp doesn't start during boot and I have to run dhclient when I logon. how do I fix that?
[09:54] <Steinbeck1> onkarshinde, no i havent but ill look it up
[09:54] <Steinbeck1> what is it?
[09:54] <polpak> onkarshinde, It should be easy.. the real trick is the partition cannot be mounted before you do it
[09:55] <aftertaf> looool mustard5
[09:55] <fatehaze> i got the libflac6 .deb package, how do i go about installing it?
[09:55] <mustard5> polpak, liveCD then?
[09:55] <onkarshinde> Steinbeck1: AFAIK. gDesklets is something similar to dashbord widgets on MAC OS X. There are plenty of them avialable in repos. You can also install additional.
[09:55] <polpak> onkarshinde, once it's unmounted you should just be able to right click the partition and select resize
[09:55] <Steinbeck1> onkarshinde, are they buggy?
[09:55] <mustard5> aftertaf, :)
[09:55] <agtnz> fatehaze: dpkg -i <nameofpackage>
[09:55] <aftertaf> fatehaze: dpkg -i /path/tp/yourdeb.deb
[09:55] <fatehaze> sweet, thanks
[09:55] <Steinbeck1> im a bit worried theyll crash
[09:55] <onkarshinde> polpak: Ok. But if I unmount it will gparted keep running?
[09:56] <polpak> onkarshinde, depends on what partition you're trying to resize...
[09:56] <mustard5> onkarshinde, you got a liveCD ?
[09:56] <henk> is there a way to get a login-screen that lets me select in what kind of session (kde/gnome) i'd like to start this time ?
[09:56] <onkarshinde> Steinbeck1: Actually gdesklets run in their own environment so even if they crash they won't harm any of your open applications.
[09:56] <aftertaf> shtron: odd.  have you setup your /etc/networking/interfaces to use dhcp?
[09:56] <polpak> onkarshinde, if it's your root partition you're better off getting a live CD, and booting with that
[09:56] <aftertaf> shtron: look in /etc/init.d/ for a dhcp startup script
[09:56] <Steinbeck1> ok yea they look nice
[09:56] <polpak> onkarshinde, then install gparted from the LiveCD and then you can resize stuff
[09:56] <onkarshinde> mustard5: not for breezy
[09:56] <Steinbeck1> ill download it real equick
[09:56] <derrickw> henk - all of them
[09:57] <aftertaf> henk: that you get with gdm or kdm
[09:57] <onkarshinde> polpak: No. My /usr is on different partition.
[09:57] <aftertaf> elive is nice :)
[09:57] <henk> ha it finished installing, going to try it now thank so far
[09:58] <polpak> onkarshinde, If it's not a "data" partition, I'd just recommend booting from a liveCD and installing gparted into the Live CD environment
[09:58] <derrickw> i wish amarok ripped cds. it would be the perfect audio player.
[09:58] <derrickw> actually i think it does
[09:58] <mustard5> onkarshinde, I would think that gparted lives in /usr though wouldnt it?
[09:58] <onkarshinde> Steinbeck1: I just discovered gdesklets yesterday and I liked them very much. You can keep running more than one on your desktop in a floating layer. You press Shift+F12 and they come forward of all apps.
[09:58] <polpak> onkarshinde, much safer
[09:59] <shtron> aftertaf, I don't have any dhcp startup scripts on init.d and I don't know how to set interfaces to use dhcp.
[09:59] <sazwerx> hi all.. i'm planning to reinstall my ubuntu, i do have my GPG key right now.. how to use my key again in the fresh install system? i mean i dont want to regenerate it again.. how?
[09:59] <derrickw> onkarshinde - once i download gdesklets, how do i turn them on?
[09:59] <shtron> aftertaf, This is the last line of my interfaces file: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[09:59] <onkarshinde> mustard5: Yes, gparted is in /usr. I thought once i run it it will be loaded in memory and won't access /usr anymore
[09:59] <derrickw> onkarshinde - assuming i install with synaptic
[10:00] <Steinbeck1> onkarshinde, im sorry im pretty new to linux
[10:00] <Steinbeck1> can you help me out with installing it
[10:00] <Steinbeck1> i have it downloaded
[10:00] <onkarshinde> derrickw: there will be a entry in Applications->Accessories
[10:00] <onkarshinde> Steinbeck1: Instead of download use synaptic
[10:00] <Steinbeck1> ok will do
[10:01] <JadussD> hey, could someone tell me if doing "apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-all" in ubuntu is very bad idea or not?
[10:01] <derrickw> onkarshinde - haha i assume it doesn't work for KDE then?
[10:01] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, I think there is good thread on that in customisation tip and tricks in the ubuntuforums.org
[10:01] <onkarshinde> derrickw: I don't know. You can try. Need to install two packages. gdesklets and gdesklets-data
[10:01] <shuveb> can someone please tell me which package contains rpcgen?
[10:01] <derrickw> onkarshinde - oh yeah, in KDE it shows up under utilities
[10:02] <onkarshinde> JadussD: And why do you think it will be bad idea?
[10:02] <Steinbeck1> ok thanks onkarshinde, mustard5
[10:02] <shtron> aftertaf, Will "echo dhclient >> /etc/init.d/networking" do the trick?
[10:02] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77694&highlight=gdesklets
[10:02] <polpak> JadussD, I like the SDL libs...
[10:03] <polpak> JadussD, Why would it be a bad idea?
[10:03] <JadussD> i meant, if they were meant for debian...even if ubuntu is based on debian, oh who am i kidding, i'm  paranoid linux newbie :P
[10:05] <polpak> JadussD, if it's in the repositories it's probably pretty safe
[10:05] <shuveb> how do i find out to which package a file belongs to? even if that package is not installed yet
[10:06] <JadussD> alright thanks
[10:06] <shtron> I can't compile on breezy... I installed gcc, g++ and make but I can't even compile a simple hello world program...
[10:06] <polpak> shtron, what are you typing, and what errors do you get
[10:06] <mustard5> shuveb, packages.ubuntu.com has a search for packages by filename function
[10:06] <shuveb> mustard5, ok
[10:08] <mustard5> shtron, you have build-essential installed?
[10:09] <shtron> mustard5, not sure...
[10:09] <mustard5> shtron, seems you do from your question...might be good to confirm
[10:09] <onkarshinde> shtron: what error does it give?
[10:09] <mustard5> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:09] <shtron> I tried a simple hello world and it didn't find stdio.h
[10:10] <polpak> shtron, should be /usr/include/stdio.h
[10:11] <polpak> what did your hellow world program look like?
[10:11] <polpak> err hello world rather
[10:11] <shtron> it's not there... just a sec..
[10:11] <Seveas> shtron, install the build-essential package
[10:12] <Seveas> you miss all libc headers
[10:12] <shtron> #include <stdio.h> \n int main()\n { printf("Hello world\n"); return 0; }
[10:12] <snadge> how can i leave a dist-upgrade download unattended without it giving up too easy if connection is lost etc? :)
[10:12] <henk> hmm kde does not respond to the media keys on my keyboard, i have this soundvolumewheel that used to work very neatly in gnome by displaying a little window with the volume in a bar. How do i get this stuff on kde ? I use that a lot
[10:12] <snadge> i've had to leave it overnight about 3 times, and i've only got 150mb :/
[10:13] <Seveas> snadge, then fix your connection...\
[10:13] <polpak> Seveas, I don't have build-essentials installed, but I have stdio.h
[10:13] <shtron> ok installing..
[10:13] <shtron> anything else i need?
[10:13] <polpak> shtron, I don't think that's the issue
[10:13] <Seveas> polpak, then you have libc6-deb
[10:13] <Seveas> dev*
[10:13] <Seveas> shtron, no
[10:13] <Seveas> not for a hello world program
[10:13] <snadge> Seveas, well once it was caused by a power outage
[10:14] <Seveas> snadge, how are you going to expect that apt recovers from that?
[10:14] <polpak> Seveas, yes.. If I'm going to develop C programs I'd need libc6-deb
[10:14] <snadge> is there an apt -ifitstuffsupkeeptrying option? ;)
[10:14] <polpak> err dev
[10:14] <Seveas> snadge, yes, you can make a cronjob that does apt-get -d dist-upgrade every hour
[10:14] <shtron> ok, Hello world works. now, for kernel config (with make xconfig) and compile what do i need?
[10:14] <Seveas> (-d means download only)
[10:15] <snadge> nice
[10:15] <Seveas> apt-get -d --force-yes dist-upgrade even
[10:15] <Seveas> shtron, don't do that
[10:15] <shtron> do what?
[10:15] <Seveas> use the ubuntu way of compiling a kernel (search the wiki on kernel to find instructions)
[10:15] <Seveas> do NOT use random configs/sources
[10:16] <shtron> but I have homework. I need to do that...
[10:16] <snadge> Seveas, wheres the fun in that? ;)
[10:16] <Seveas> and if you don't have a special need to compile your own kernel -- don't do it
[10:16] <snadge> shtron, just read the god damned wiki and do ur homework punk
[10:16] <Seveas> it's so '99/gentoo to compile your own kernel
[10:16] <Seveas> snadge, watch your language!
[10:17] <Steinbeck1> everytime i try to run a gdesklet it tells me a sensor can not be found
[10:17] <snadge> some people just like to whinge though.. then ask for advice, and do the wrong thing
[10:17] <snadge> and sometimes they just need to be told ;)
[10:17] <Seveas> boo!
[10:18] <rel> Hey guys, I have a mac G4 Powerbook that I just installed Ubuntu on (duel booting with OSX) and I can't get it connected to the internet through my wireless connection. My wireless card doesn't even show up in the list of ways to connect...
[10:18] <mahangu__> snadge, there is a way to tell them
[10:18] <glick> scuse me where can i download ubuntu server 5.10?
[10:19] <Seveas> glick, releases.ubuntu.com / cdimage.ubuntu.com
[10:19] <grace_> yeah i got dvdcss on the go
[10:19] <avrine> i want to establish vpn connection! what pakage must be install???
[10:19] <Seveas> !vpn
[10:19] <ubotu> Seveas: What?
[10:19] <Seveas> !kill
[10:19] <mahangu__> rel, what is your wireless chipset
[10:19] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Seveas
[10:19] <avrine> yes
[10:19] <Seveas> avrine, openswan and freeswan seem popular
[10:19] <grace_> but when I open xine I still get red for win32codecs and dvd drive
[10:19] <mahangu__> ubotu, tell rel -about wireless
[10:20] <avrine> Seveas: thanks
[10:20] <Seveas> !-repos
[10:20] <ubotu> Seveas: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:20] <grace_> cant i get win32 codec with apt-get
[10:20] <Seveas> !w32codecs
[10:20] <mustard5> glick http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/
[10:20] <ubotu> rumour has it, w32codecs is for w32codecs in Breezy visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/breezy-extras/
[10:20] <snadge> rel: do you know what kind of wireless card it is? and possibly the driver that supports it?  have you determined if ubuntu has support for that driver loaded?
[10:21] <grace_> how can I add that to repositories
[10:21] <grace_> !repos
[10:21] <ubotu> I heard repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[10:21] <mustard5> glick, server install is available on the normal install CD
[10:21] <rel> mahangy_, my mac has an airport extreme card in it
[10:21] <Seveas> !no w32codecs are binary only codecs that some call evil. One possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[10:21] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[10:21] <mahangu__> rel, did you read what ubuntu gave you?
[10:21] <rel> mahangu_, I'm reading it right now
[10:21] <avrine> i downloading openswan Seveas now
[10:21] <snadge> rel: airport is a proprietry mac only hardware.. as far as i know, there isnt a free driver available
[10:22] <Steinbeck1> onkarshinde, I have it installed but everytime i try to run a gdisklet it tells me it cant find a sensor
[10:22] <Steinbeck1> any ideas?
[10:22] <mustard5> I think I am going to have one of those nights were everything I say is the wrong answer :)
[10:22] <mahangu__> mustard5, heh
[10:22] <mustard5> I might stay quiet ;)
[10:22] <Drgb> help
[10:23] <Seveas> rel, airport extreme == broadcom chip == no linux driver == useless
[10:23] <mustard5> Drgb, feel free to elaborate ;)
[10:23] <Drgb> mustard5, lol
[10:23] <rel> serveas, crappp :(
[10:23] <mahangu> Seveas, I like your logic
[10:23] <avrine> Seveas: i want to create vpn connection only
[10:23] <mahangu> rel, call your local Apple Store and ask them why they dont release a linux driver
[10:23] <mahangu> im kidding btw
[10:23] <Drgb> thought i was in status window, sry, however i need some help about adding users from command line
[10:24] <snadge> hes not kidding.. do it, and if you can, record the phone conversation
[10:24] <rel> :'(
[10:24] <snadge> ;)
[10:24] <Drgb> i need to create an user, then give him permissions to login to a  gnome session
[10:24] <Drgb> can you explain me how to?
[10:24] <ZzeCoOl> Hello do u guys know any good downlaod manager like Getright  for linux?
[10:24] <mahangu> ZzeCoOl, wget
[10:24] <rel> I'll get a certain internet celebrity that I know to do it, he gets things done.
[10:25] <mahangu> ZzeCoOl, actually axel
[10:25] <zzyber> can someone help me get vmware printing going in ubuntu? I have ubuntu as host and xp pro as guest and i dont hav a /dev/parport0 and vmware says that the /dev/lp0 is depriciated?
[10:25] <mahangu> rel, and who is that?
[10:25] <mahangu> ZzeCoOl, apt-get install axel
[10:25] <mahangu> it's command line , but lovely
[10:25] <ZzeCoOl> mahangu: wget isnt a doanload manager
[10:25] <ZzeCoOl> ok
[10:25] <ZzeCoOl> ill try axel
[10:25] <rel> mahangu, phil zimmermann, he will stay on the phone for hours and he never gives up
[10:26] <mustard5> Drgb, I know you use the adduser command....thats a start
[10:26] <Drgb> i need to create an user, then give him permissions to login to a  gnome session         <----------------------------->sry for quoting myself but i think no one read this :D
[10:26] <Drgb> mustard5, yes i used it
[10:26] <mahangu> ZzeCoOl, im sorry, bt to me it is
[10:26] <Drgb> but i can't go to "step 2"
[10:26] <avrine> Zzyber : can you tell you wmware version?
[10:26] <Drgb> i have to give him permission to start a gnome session
[10:26] <zzyber> avrine, i have 5.0.0 build 13124
[10:27] <snadge> yes, phil zimmerman should ring up apple and ask them why they dont release a linux version of airport driver.. then record it, and post the story to slashdot ;)
[10:27] <ZzeCoOl> mahangu:  i need something like getright not a console thing
[10:27] <rel> snadge, I'll get my dad to call him right now ;)
[10:27] <mustard5> Drgb, I take it you don't have gnome or a gui?
[10:28] <mustard5> Drgb, I'm curious why you wouldnt have used the System>>Admin>>Users and groups
[10:28] <Drgb> i do have gnome
[10:28] <Drgb> but i installed my os "manually"
[10:28] <mahangu> ZzeCoOl, ok, but you can't say wget is not a download manager, it very much is
[10:28] <Drgb> so i haven't the user management tool
[10:28] <mustard5> Drgb, aha!
[10:28] <Drgb> for gnome
[10:28] <zzyber> lsmod
[10:28] <mustard5> Drgb, now its making sense to me :_)
[10:29] <topyli> rel: while you're at it. call sun and ask for ppc java :)
[10:29] <rel> topyli, I'll ad that to my list ;)
[10:29] <mustard5> Drgb, so what is stopping the user from logging in after you create them?  (this is all new to me too)
[10:30] <Drgb> i just can't log into gnome
[10:30] <Drgb> i can log from terminal
[10:30] <henk> where do i tell kde wich type of file to open with what program ?
[10:31] <joda> System -> preferences-> prefered applications, I think
[10:31] <shtron> OK, I read the wiki, it instructs to use apt-get to get the kernel sources and linux-tree. 1. The sources doesn't contain the version i need. 2. what's linux-tree and what's it for?
[10:31] <mustard5> Drgb, reading the manual it says it takes the settings from /etc/adduser.conf  do you have one?
[10:31] <joda> hmm, sorry -  that's just for mail, web and konsole
[10:32] <Drgb> let me take a look
[10:32] <Drgb> ok
[10:32] <Drgb> i got adduser.conf
[10:33] <shtron> Can I download the sources version and apply a patch from www.kernel.org?
[10:33] <joda> I'm trying to compile a program, and I get an Error - when I search for that error on google, I find a comment from one of the developers saying that the problem is probably because I'm using GCC4 and not GC3.4 - how can I change so that I use an older version of GCC for a single compile?
[10:35] <bimberi> joda: install gcc-3.4 and type "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" in the shell before executing ./configure
[10:36] <mustard5> Drgb does it look like this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4559
[10:36] <joda> Bimberi: I'll try that - thanks
[10:37] <bimberi> joda: np :)
[10:37] <darkness> Hi all, i'm looking to download the java ( I forgot the right word... I hate it when this happens. ) but i don't know which one to download and then how to install it./
[10:37] <darkness> Could someone please help me?
[10:38] <Astxist_> I like to use apt-cache search <package name>
[10:38] <Astxist_> that way you can find it wasy
[10:38] <mustard5> !java
[10:38] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:38] <Astxist_> "apt-cache search java" for example
[10:38] <mustard5> darkness, where are you downloading from?
[10:38] <darkness> The java website.
[10:39] <joda> Bimberi: looks like it worked beautifully - thanks alot :)
[10:39] <mahangu> Astxist_, the java package isnt in the repos
[10:39] <mahangu> darkness, use the javadebs
[10:39] <mustard5> !javadebs
[10:39] <ubotu> Sun Java debs packaged for Ubuntu. Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy))
[10:39] <Drgb> mustard5, i think it's exactly the same stuff
[10:39] <mahangu> !javadebs
[10:39] <Drgb> i just haven't still read it
[10:39] <Drgb> :D
[10:39] <bimberi> joda: phew :) great!
[10:39] <mustard5> Drgb, I'm looking through my gui for user and groups to see what groups I belong to
[10:39] <darkness> mahangu: Where do i get javadebs from?
[10:39] <mustard5> darkness, use the javadeb links above and get the jre1.5
[10:40] <Astxist_> heh
[10:40] <mahangu> darkness, the links above
[10:40] <darkness> the tinyurl one?
[10:40] <mustard5> darkness yep the one that matches your version of ubuntu
[10:41] <Astxist_> I added some extra sources to my source.list so it's in there for me :)
[10:41] <darkness> I have ubuntu 5.04 which i think is hoary...
[10:41] <icewt> those javadeb links don't work
[10:41] <mustard5> darkness, then the first link with (Hoary) after it
[10:41] <mahangu> mustard5, thats correct
[10:41] <mahangu> those links give 404s
[10:42] <mahangu> Seveas, ping
[10:42] <darkness> Yeah, i just got that.
[10:42] <mustard5> darkness, you might need to read the section on installing java from here then
[10:42] <mustard5> !java
[10:42] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:42] <ekimus> hi, could someone tell me how to get line numbers in latex, inside a verbatim environment?
[10:43] <Drgb> mustard5, maybe i can't login with gnome because i was using the "useradd" command instead of "adduser"
[10:43] <pitti> ekimus: you probably want 'listings', not 'verbatim' for that
[10:43] <mustard5> Drgb, heh..that could be it :)
[10:43] <darkness> HEy, i think i have found what i am looking for.
[10:43] <Drgb> i try the other one now then tell you the "response"
[10:43] <darkness> I have downloaded the right file and i am now just reading how to install it
[10:43] <mustard5> Drgb, k
[10:44] <mustard5> darkness, I think the main thing is you DON'T get the jre package with netbeans
[10:44] <ekimus> pitti: moreverb package?
[10:44] <Seveas> mahangu, pong
[10:44] <Corin> can someone please tell me the ubuntu page with all the basic commands?
[10:45] <bimberi> !cli
[10:45] <mustard5> !cli
[10:45] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[10:45] <Corin> i think ubotu knows, but i cant remember what to say to him..
[10:45] <Corin> thanks
[10:45] <Corin> thats the one
[10:45] <Corin> :D
[10:45] <pitti> ekimus: I use 'listings' for program listings, but moreverb sounds promising (I don't know it, though)
[10:45] <ekimus> pitti: \begin{listings} (any vital options there?)
[10:45] <kestas> guys can I trust packages from cipherfunk.org?
[10:46] <kestas> is there anywhere I can get w32codecs from which I can trust?
[10:46] <mustard5> !w32codecs
[10:46] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, binary only codecs that some call evil. One possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[10:46] <Astxist_> I know of a spot
[10:46] <Seveas> kestas, marillat and cipherfunk are good
[10:46] <Astxist_> heh
[10:46] <SCMark> where are smb mounts mounted in the filesystem?
[10:47] <Seveas> SCMark, depends on where you mount them ;)
[10:47] <Seveas> if you go to smb:// urls with nautilus: there aren't mounted
[10:47] <SCMark> what if I mount them by going to places->network server->clicky clicky to my mount
[10:48] <Seveas> that's not mounting :)
[10:48] <SCMark> ah
[10:48] <kestas> Seveas, hmm how handy :) but which repo is w32 in?
[10:48] <Seveas> both
[10:48] <Seveas> (cipherfunk and marillat)
[10:49] <kestas> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ cant I get it from there?
[10:49] <Seveas> sure
[10:49] <Seveas> breezy-extras
[10:49] <kestas> k, and what's the ftp location?
[10:49] <Seveas> no ftp
[10:49] <Drgb>  c ya l83
[10:49] <kestas> http?
[10:49] <Seveas> yeah
[10:49] <Astxist_> heh
[10:49] <SCMark> So when I try to play a video on a smb mount, the video keeps having to buffer... should I mount the samba filesystem and buffer the video using an mplayer option or is there an easier way?
[10:49] <Astxist_> I think I found a bug with Network Settings
[10:50] <Astxist_> if you put a number with a * in it
[10:50] <shtron> Can i install linux-source package and apply a www.kernel.org patch on it (after extracting) ?
[10:50] <Astxist_> we use *44 to disable call waiting here
[10:50] <Astxist_> it'll make the number not appear in the config
[10:50] <Astxist_> and you have to manually edit the chatscript to fix it
[10:50] <grace_> well where can I get win32codecs for amd64
[10:50] <Seveas> Astxist_, bugs -> bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[10:51] <Seveas> grace_, w*32*codecs
[10:51] <Astxist_> k I'll give it a look
[10:51] <Astxist_> heh and I only started using ubuntu yesterday :)
[10:51] <Astxist_> and linux for that matter
[10:51] <jestarius> anyone managed to get transparent borderless terminals in 64bit?
[10:52] <jestarius> using gnome
[10:52] <darkness> Grrr, what it said in the restricked formats link didn't work...
[10:52] <darkness> I -from what i can see- have done everything like it says
[10:52] <grace_> no packages
[10:52] <Astxist_> lol
[10:52] <Astxist_> I wonder how I'm going to do a search for this
[10:53] <Astxist_> * gets treated differently :)
[10:53] <Astxist_> guess asterix
[10:53] <Drgb> mustard5, it says "system administrator disabled your accunt"....ghghgh
[10:53] <Drgb> *account
[10:53] <grace_> when I reload after adding the ^^noted respository it complains that it cant find amd64 packages.gz
[10:54] <mustard5> Drgb, hmmm..the manual says that that shouldnt happen by default
[10:54] <darkness> Mustard5: You say DON't get the jre package with netbeans. I don't think i have been trying to get netbeans. I don't want to develop java apps, just use java chats!
[10:54] <mustard5> Drgb, it states you need to explicitly state that
[10:55] <mustard5> darkness, there is a jre package without netbeans
[10:55] <darkness> Yes, how do i get it?
[10:55] <mustard5> Drgb, which leaves me somewhat perplexed at to what to do from here
[10:56] <kestas> shoudl I get the java SDK or RE, I want to be able to use java but Ill want to develop with it sometime in the fututre
[10:56] <rel> Hey I have another problem, I'm duel booting OSX and Ubuntu on my powerbook, and the boot screen that gives me the options of which to boot into defaults to Ubuntu if I don't do anything, but I want it to default to OSX instead, how do I get it to do that?
[10:56] <kestas> can the sdk do both?
[10:56] <Drgb> mustard5, i'm trying "adduser --system --group --uid 1000 --shell drgb"
[10:56] <grace_> !repos
[10:56] <ubotu> hmm... repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[10:56] <kestas> rel, what boot loader is this?
[10:56] <mustard5> darkness, you do it following the instructions in the guide a the wiki, if that fails I can only assume 'user error', as it worked for me a few days ago
[10:56] <StDellis> Anyone know of a burning software thats already in ubuntu that lets you burn iso images?
[10:56] <Seveas> kestas, sdk includes re
[10:56] <Drgb> --uid 1000 because it gave me permission error before
[10:57] <mustard5> Drgb, uid=1000?
[10:57] <kestas> Seveas, k thanks, nice repo
[10:57] <grace_> !easysource
[10:57] <ubotu> easysource is, like, totally, For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:57] <mustard5> Drgb, what about sudo at the start then?
[10:57] <Drgb> i'm trying now
[10:57] <Drgb> :D
[10:57] <mustard5> Drgb, uid=1000 is your account
[10:57] <jestarius> StDellis, using Nautilus right click on the iso and select burn image
[10:57] <rel> kestats, I think its something called Netboot? I'm not sure though, it's whatever installed when I installed Ubuntu, I partitioned 850kb of space for it and it did its little thing
[10:57] <mustard5> Drgb, do uid=1001
[10:57] <darkness> mustard5: There is one where i need multiverse on it, i have just enabled that and will try it. Hopefully that works. If not, i will just have..I dunno, i'll find away somehow.
[10:57] <Drgb> 1001? ok, i try
[10:59] <Drgb> ok, i try to login now
[10:59] <mustard5> Drgb, good luck
[10:59] <Drgb> :D
[10:59] <Astxist_> does bugzilla.ubuntu.com normally take a long time to do a search?
[10:59] <Drgb> l8r
[11:00] <mustard5> Astxist_, not sure
[11:00] <Astxist_> ok
[11:02] <SCMark> what does unbuntu do when I browse a samba share in nautilus?  If it's not mounting the filesystem then what is it doing?
[11:04] <rel> I'm duel booting OSX and Ubuntu on my Powerbook, and the boot screen that gives me the options of which to boot into defaults to Ubuntu if I don't do anything, but I want it to default to OSX instead, does anyone know how I can get it to do that?
[11:04] <Madpilot> rel: duel booting? is that where the two OSes fight with each other?
[11:04] <h-kan> change the order in grub.conf
[11:04] <Seveas> SCMark, it uses Gnome VFS
[11:04] <iluciv> Could someone please tell me if the PCI bus is serial or parrallel?
[11:05] <rel> madpilot, hehe yes, I hold competitions
[11:05] <SCMark> Seveas: thanks
[11:05] <Seveas> SCMark, there exists a wrapper to really mount gnome vfs urls
[11:05] <Seveas> but for samba it seems to be flaky
[11:07] <Corin> how can i add a user to a certain group, in command-line?
[11:07] <Steinbeck1> i love linux
[11:08] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, :)
[11:08] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, is the desktop looking good?
[11:08] <Steinbeck1> alot better than windows thats forsure
[11:08] <Steinbeck1> you think i should attempt to install atis drivers?
[11:09] <Steinbeck1> or leave it alone
[11:09] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, they just updated some drivers the other day I think
[11:09] <rel> Steinbeck1, everything is a lot better than Windows! ;)
[11:09] <Corin> anyone here?  except you two
[11:09] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, as long as you know how to reconfigure to VESA and know the command to start IRC from terminal ?
[11:10] <Seveas> Corin, sudo adduser username groupname
[11:10] <Steinbeck1> no I dont..but if you tell it to me i can write it down real quick
[11:10] <rel> Does anyone here know how to set the default boot to OSX instead of Ubuntu?
[11:10] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, irssi is the IRC client from terminal :)
[11:10] <Corin> thanks Seveas
[11:10] <Corin> :)
[11:10] <Seveas> Steinbeck1, the new ati drivers are OK
[11:10] <Seveas> the just lose xv after hibernate :(
[11:10] <Steinbeck1> i also have a 64bit processor though
[11:10] <Steinbeck1> that may cause trouble
[11:11] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   will reconfigure
[11:11] <Steinbeck1> ok good
[11:11] <Steinbeck1> ill go download the drivers
[11:11] <mustard5> Steinbeck1, your on a 386 kernel though, so that might make a difference
[11:11] <Steinbeck1> true
[11:13] <Corin> Seveas, this is the first time you've talked to me since you went to Ikea
[11:13] <Corin> :P
[11:14] <rel> Isn't Ikea that brand of dog food?
[11:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> rel lol
[11:16] <SCMark> Seveas: I noticed that playing videos from a mounted filesystem versus the gnome VFS means that the video is not buffering all the time.  Do you know how to use the wrapper or where a wrapper howto is?
[11:23] <Steinbeck1> when i try to run the ati drivers it gives me permission denied even though im root
[11:23] <Steinbeck1> whats up with that?
[11:23] <bungle> sudo
[11:23] <Steinbeck1> tried
[11:23] <bungle> no idea
[11:24] <Steinbeck1> can i download the driver from synaptic?
[11:24] <El_Che> yes
[11:26] <Steinbeck1> cant seem to get it with synapitc
[11:26] <pangz> hhiiiii
[11:26] <Steinbeck1> any ideas why it wont give me permission?
[11:27] <skypa> hi guys, I run a debian unstable/experimental system right now.. I would really like to transform that on-the-fly to an ubuntu system
[11:27] <JayLv99> question: how do I log out as root and log back in as a normal user ?
[11:27] <skypa> is that possible?
[11:27] <JayLv99> on terminal
[11:28] <skypa> just type "exit" and login as a user I'd say :)
[11:28] <Steinbeck1> also when i su and give my password it says authentication failure even though its right
[11:29] <JayLv99> Steinbeck - type sudo passwd
[11:29] <JayLv99> and then type in a new password
[11:29] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Is your user listed in the sudoers file?
[11:29] <Steinbeck1> i have no idea
[11:29] <Steinbeck1> but i can su now
[11:30] <Steinbeck1> let me see if i can run the file
[11:30] <Corin> is putty the best ssh client?
[11:30] <skypa> for windows I'd say yes
[11:30] <mahangu> Corin, you can also do command line ssh
[11:30] <mahangu> oh
[11:30] <Steinbeck1> im root but still dosent give me permission
[11:30] <mahangu> blegh windows
[11:30] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Are you trying to execute a file or something?
[11:30] <Corin> yup, i need to access my linux box from windows sometimes
[11:30] <Steinbeck1> yes ati drivers
[11:30] <Corin> :(
[11:31] <skypa> yeah Corin, putty would be the best choice then :)
[11:31] <ubuntu-newbie> How can i access my linux os from another computer using putty?
[11:31] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Is the file set executable?
[11:31] <Steinbeck1> i dont know
[11:31] <Steinbeck1> how do i check?
[11:31] <bungle> telnet ubuntu-newbie
[11:31] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Do a, "ls -l your_file"
[11:32] <Corin> thanks
[11:32] <Corin> :D
[11:32] <bimberi> ubuntu-newbie: install openssh-server on the linux box, don't use telnet
[11:32] <bungle> yeahthen use ssh
[11:32] <Steinbeck1> -rw-r--r--
[11:32] <bungle> more secure
[11:32] <Steinbeck1> ?
[11:32] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  That's the problem!
[11:33] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Do a, "chmod 755 your_file" and it will be set executable.
[11:33] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Then you should be able to execute it just fine :-)
[11:33] <Corin> yay, im getting a free PC
[11:33] <Corin> :D
[11:34] <Steinbeck1> thanks its running :)
[11:34] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  No prob!
[11:34] <Steinbeck1> ok one more question
[11:35] <Steinbeck1> how do i know the driver is installed..do i need to restart x?
[11:35] <JayLv99> Corin - that's always fun :D
[11:35] <Corin> yup
[11:35] <Steinbeck1> it finished installing..how do i check it?
[11:35] <Melissa83> n00b Question Alert! Just installed the new ATI drivers, but i need to check and make sure the Mesa ones aren't actually being used. What is the command to show the current display driver set?
[11:35] <Corin> 384Mb ram, 400mhz processor
[11:35] <Corin> :P
[11:35] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  At a minimum, you'll have to restart X.  You might also need to verify that the correct driver is specified in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[11:35] <painkiler> hey guys
[11:36] <h-kan> Melissa83: lsmod
[11:36] <painkiler> is it posibile to install ubuntu on a usb hdd
[11:36] <Steinbeck1> how do i restart x?
[11:36] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  You can simply logout and then do a ctrl-alt-backspace to have it restart.
[11:37] <Steinbeck1> ok sorry its my second day using this os
[11:37] <painkiler> i dont have a cd drive to my lappy
[11:37] <painkiler> well i kinda die
[11:37] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Actually, you don't even need to logout.  A ctrl-alt-backspace will close all gui apps, log you out, and restart X.
[11:38] <painkiler> so i want to install the os on the hdd connected usb to another machine
[11:38] <Melissa83> h-kan: if I had to guess, I'd say it's still using the Vesa drivers (I see vgastate vga16fb softcursor vesafb,vga16fb). is there a way to force X to load the drivers specified in the Xorg.conf file?
[11:38] <painkiler> will it work?
[11:38] <Corin> is anyone here good with webmin?
[11:38] <AMDXP> i am having a real time with a breezy install
[11:38] <AMDXP> it keeps freezing at 52%
[11:38] <Steinbeck1> looks like its good to go
[11:38] <Steinbeck1> any programs i can test the card with?
[11:38] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Cool!
[11:39] <rel_> Does anyone know how to set the default OS to boot into on a dual boot system? (OSX and Breezy)
[11:39] <Steinbeck1> yea i figured it would be more difficultl
[11:39] <h-kan> Melissa83: insmod or modprobe on the driver you wanna use than restart X
[11:39] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Well, even though it's not a benchmark tester, you can use glxgears as a relative measurement.  However, unless you took a measurement before (for comparison) it won't do you much good :-)
[11:40] <Melissa83> h-kan: so hypothetically the following command "sudo insmod fglrx" should work?
[11:40] <Steinbeck1> what is it supposed to do?
[11:40] <bimberi> AMDXP: that might be a bad cd, or a cd burnt from a bad iso
[11:40] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  I'm assuming you are on a Breezy system?
[11:40] <Steinbeck1> all i see is gears moving
[11:40] <Steinbeck1> yes
[11:40] <bimberi> ubotu tell amdxp about verify
[11:40] <h-kan> Melissa83: ye if the driver exists
[11:41] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  One sec... you need to provide a switch...
[11:41] <painkiler> or how do i set up my usb hdd to install from it
[11:41] <Melissa83> h-kan: hehee, think it's a good time to back-up my xorg.conf! LOL
[11:41] <Drgb> hi everyone, i created a new user but i can't log with a gnome session, i saw the debug file and it said that i didn't have permission to write in some folder....can you help me?
[11:41] <Steinbeck1> switch?
[11:42] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Ok.  Type this, "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark" *exactly* as I have here and it will print out the frames/sec to stdout.
[11:42] <Melissa83> ooo i think i see the problem
[11:42] <Melissa83> fglrx "no such file or directory"
[11:42] <AMDXP> i have tried several CDs
[11:42] <Melissa83> i'm guessing i'm needing a link here
[11:42] <Melissa83> hmmmmm
[11:42] <Corin> anyone here good with webmin?
[11:42] <h-kan> Melissa83: sudo modprobe fglrx
[11:43] <bimberi> AMDXP: from the same iso?
[11:43] <Steinbeck1> 700 fps in 5 secs good?
[11:43] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Any luck?  It should give you a 5-second average.
[11:43] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Ok.
[11:43] <Drgb> hi everyone, i created a new user but i can't log with a gnome session, i saw the debug file and it said that i didn't have permission to write in some folder....can you help me?          <----------------------------->     sry for quoting myself but i think no one read this stuff :D
[11:43] <Steinbeck1> 750 now
[11:44] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  That's not awesome but ok.  As I said, it's a relative measurement.
[11:44] <Steinbeck1> well i have an x800
[11:44] <Corin> what versions of phpmyadmin can be used to work with apache2?
[11:44] <Melissa83> Drgb: Does that user have access to it's /home folder?
[11:44] <Steinbeck1> hmm
[11:45] <Drgb> Melissa83, i don't know, how to see it? and how to give him access?
[11:45] <Steinbeck1> maybe i should download a game demo and check it out?
[11:45] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  I'm not up on all the current video card technology.  Is that a recent card?
[11:45] <Steinbeck1> yea about a before x1800 which just came out
[11:46] <Mabus06> Can I change the folder apache2 starts in (/var/www) to something else?
[11:46] <Steinbeck1> so a generation ago
[11:46] <StevenK> Mabus06: Certainly. Edit the /etc/apache2/sites-availble/default
[11:47] <StevenK> Mabus06: Or, create a new file in /etc/apache2/sites-availble, link it into /etc/apache2/sites-enabled and remove /etc/apache2/sites-enabled.
[11:47] <StevenK> Mabus06: Does that make sense?
[11:47] <Drgb> p.s.: how to login with a different user in a terminal?
[11:47] <Corin> people, phpmyadmin help please
[11:47] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Hmm.  I would have expected it to do better then.  Oh well.  Again, not a very good test...
[11:47] <Mabus06> StevenK, when I have no index.html, it has like an ftp thing. How do I keep that and also have a webpage by default I can link to the ftp with?
[11:48] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Anyway, good luck with it.
[11:48] <Melissa83> yay! Now i have to specify busIDs
[11:48] <Melissa83> joy
[11:48] <Astxist> heh
[11:48] <StevenK> Mabus06: It's a directory listing, um, you can keep the directory listing and put text in a default file. I'm not so sure, actually. :-)
[11:48] <Steinbeck1> k thank you
[11:48] <Corin> anyone, help with phpmyadmin please
[11:49] <Niomi> corin: hi!
[11:49] <Corin> hi Niomi
[11:49] <Corin> ive installed apache2, mysql, php, phpmyadmin.....
[11:49] <Corin> but phpmyadmin isnt working
[11:50] <bimberi> Drgb: sudo su - <user>
[11:50] <Niomi> Corin: I don't know a lot about it, but maybe I can help.. can you be more specific about not working?
[11:50] <Corin> i can show you:
[11:50] <h-kan> Corin: have you configure apache with php
[11:50] <Mabus06> StevenK, could I maybe have like, a folder with all of my html as the default, and then somehow link to that directory listing from the other folder?
[11:50] <Corin> can i pm you?
[11:50] <Niomi> Corin: sure :)
[11:51] <Corin> no....
[11:51] <Corin> not sure how...
[11:51] <StevenK> Mabus06: Sure.
[11:51] <Mabus06> StevenK, how?
[11:51] <Niomi> Corin: /msg Niomi blahblahblah
[11:51] <Corin> i meant "do you mind", not "how" lol
[11:51] <Corin> i take it you dont mind though
[11:51] <Corin> :P
[11:52] <Niomi> Corin: ooh, not at all, sorry :P
[11:52] <Corin> np
[11:52] <Corin> lol
[11:52] <Corin> u got that i take it?
[11:52] <Corin> :P
[11:53] <blueblood> Any way that you can speed up VNC? Im on 100Mbit to my server, and it's reaaal choppy =/
[11:53] <Niomi> no, i haven't gotton a PM from you. are you regestered with the Nick ID thing?
[11:53] <Corin> Ohmer, yeah, thats it
[11:54] <Corin> how can i reset my password on irc?
[11:54] <StevenK> Mabus06: Um. Honestly, I'm not actually sure. Give me a few minutes, while I read docs.
[11:54] <Niomi> blueblood: close any programs that may be eating up your resources, other than that i've found that the VNC viewer that comes with ubuntu isn't too great. see if you can find another one.
[11:54] <Corin> Niomi, #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:54] <Corin> :P
[11:55] <Seveas> blueblood, use freeNX
[11:56] <Seveas> vnc is history, NX is future ;)
[11:56] <deeler> i like to modify the gdm wallpaper, where is it located ?
[11:56] <StevenK> Mabus06: Okay, there are few ways to do this.
[11:57] <Mabus06> StevenK, the easiest would be if I could create several directories I could have listings to.
[11:57] <Mabus06> links to, I mean.
[11:58] <coax> does enyone know a gnome equal to kruler (an app to mesaure screen elements in pixel)
[11:58] <StevenK> I'd suggest you create a /var/www/index.html, and then make a /var/www/download (or whatever) directory, containing a .htaccess file. The .htaccess file should say "FancyIndexing yes" and then that *should* have a listing and then include the index.html file.
[11:58] <Drgb> i can't login with my new user......please.....can someone help me?
[11:59] <Drgb> when i use "sudo su - drgb"
[11:59] <blah> can someone tell me how to remove the graphical login to ubunut. i want it to login to the thing that looks like dos (whatever you call that). I want it so it DOES NOT load gnome or anything graphical by default.
[11:59] <StevenK> Mabus06: But, I'm not sure. The easiest way to deal with Apache2 is to play around and see what works. The documentation is available on http://httpd.apache.org, and you want the docs for 2.0
[11:59] <Mabus06> StevenK, include the index.html file? What do you mean?
[11:59] <Drgb> it asks me for a password, i type the password but it says "try again"
[11:59] <coax> Drgb, try setting the password again...
[11:59] <Drgb> i changed the password almost hundred times
[12:00] <StevenK> Mabus06: Okay, so the web page should have a directory listing, and then have the index.html file below the listing.
[12:00] <Drgb> but i had the same result
[12:00] <Drgb> i am desperate.....
[12:00] <coax> Drgb, hmm... try to see if the user have a valid login shell in /etc/passwd
[12:01] <Mabus06> StevenK, below the listing? Do you mean just create a blank index.html file in the /var/www/download folder?
[12:02] <Drgb> coax, it has /home/drgb/bin/bash
[12:02] <Drgb> but
[12:02] <Drgb> it doesn't exist
[12:02] <blah> can someone tell me how to remove the graphical login to ubunut. i want it to login to the thing that looks like dos (whatever you call that). I want it so it DOES NOT load gnome or anything graphical by default.
[12:02] <Drgb> O_O?
[12:02] <StevenK> Mabus06: Well, you don't need an index.html ...
[12:02] <coax> Drgb, set it to a valid one, fx. /bin/bash
[12:02] <Mabus06> StevenK, I didn't think so, but what were you talking about?
[12:03] <StevenK> Mabus06: Okay - the only reason I mention it is because you mentioned having a webpage and a listing on the same page ...
[12:04] <Drgb> coax, i'm trying to write it but i can't, how to run a text editor with root permissions?
[12:05] <coax> Drgb, open a terminal and write sudo in front of the command you need to run.
[12:05] <Drgb> anything happened....
[12:06] <rob_p> Drgb:  How did you create the new user account?
[12:06] <Drgb> adduser drgb
[12:06] <deeler> i like to modify the gdm wallpaper, where is it located ?
[12:06] <Drgb> coax, i tried sudo abiword but nothing happened
[12:07] <coax> it might be a good idea to use a non-grapical app to edit it with... fx. nano
[12:07] <coax> sudo nano /etc/passwd
[12:09] <coax> Drgb, by the way, the commands in the bottom of nano are used with [ctrl] +* fx. quit = [ctrl] +[X] 
[12:10] <Drgb> yes, i already edited the file
[12:10] <Drgb> now i'm trying to login...
[12:13] <brenner> deeler: gdm themes
[12:13] <brenner> deeler: sys > admin > login screen > themed greeter tab
[12:13] <Drgb> i logged into terminal
[12:14] <Drgb> now i try to login to gnome
[12:14] <Drgb> see you l8r
[12:15] <brenner> deeler: here's my current favourite: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=25716
[12:15] <Drgb> ok, i found what the real proble is
[12:15] <Drgb> *problem
[12:15] <Drgb> i can't write in my "home" folder
[12:15] <brenner> deeler: you can also edit the "splashscreen" (the picture you see after you login) using gtweakui
[12:15] <mahangu_> drgp do sudo chown <username> /home/username
[12:15] <Drgb> but.....how to gain permission to write into that bloody folder?
[12:15] <Drgb> uhm...
[12:16] <Drgb> mahangu_, u r a god
[12:17] <Drgb> c ya l8r...(almost 6th time i say this)
[12:19] <oLsson> do someone have a tip for a good media player that can play mp3's ?
[12:19] <oLsson> and a link for that player ?
[12:20] <dewd> beep media player
[12:20] <StevenK> Amarok, Rhythmbox or XMMS.
[12:20] <Drgb> gnome-settings-daemon has quit unexpectly
[12:20] <StevenK> oLsson: Rhythmbox is installed by default in Ubuntu
[12:20] <Drgb> why????
[12:20] <StevenK> oLsson: Amarok is installed by default in Kubuntu.
[12:20] <brenner> dewd: have you worked out how to get flac support
[12:20] <brenner> ?
[12:20] <Drgb> i logged in but gnome doesn't start now
[12:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> in totem i can hear the sound on wmv files, but not see the audio.  anyone know how to fix tihs?
[12:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> this
[12:22] <rob_p> Drgb:  Why didn't your user have ownership of it's home dir to begin with?  That seems odd.  You might want to verify that your user's home dir (as well as dirs below) are also in  your users group group.
[12:22] <dewd> brenner, do you have an url that I can try that out?
[12:24] <chelu> how can I kill the X?
[12:24] <Drgb> rob1, i have no idea about the reason of all this mess.... how to put my home folder in my "users group"???????
[12:24] <brenner> dewd: er no, not really....sound juicer can rip in flac format though, and i've ripped some of my CDs using it (it's lossless)
[12:24] <rob_p> chelu:  ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:24] <Drgb> ops, it was rob_p
[12:24] <chelu> oks thx
[12:25] <brenner> BROKEN_LADDER: [1]  w32codecs [2]  what player?
[12:25] <Steinbeck1> How can I restart in a terminal?
[12:25] <Steinbeck1> ive tried logging out and ctrl alt backspace
[12:25] <dewd> brenner, sounds good
[12:25] <rob_p> Drgb:  "sudo chgrp -R drgb /home/drgb" should do it.
[12:25] <Steinbeck1> but it keeps bringing me back to a login screen
[12:25] <brenner> Steinbeck1: sudo reboot,  iirc
[12:26] <chelu> ums, ctrl+alt+backspace only ends the sesion
[12:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> brenner yeah, it's the w32codecs i need
[12:26] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  ctrl-alt-f1 to get a terminal, ctrl-alt-f7 to get back to graphical session.
[12:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> how do i get that?
[12:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> brenner any player
[12:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> i just reinstalled breezy so i'm kinda lost
[12:26] <Drgb> rob_p, i try to login again...let's hope it'll work
[12:26] <chelu> I need work in console mode, without X
[12:26] <brenner> BROKEN_LADDER: ask ubotu about them
[12:26] <burepe> Apparently fat32 has a 2gb file size limit, if I reformat my drive to ext3 can I write files on it from a windows comp?
[12:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> !w32codecs
[12:26] <ubotu> [w32codecs]  binary only codecs that some call evil. One possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[12:27] <chelu> how can I work in console mode without X plz?
[12:27] <rob_p> chelu:  You can do a ctrl-alt-f1 to get a terminal, or you can simply kill gdm and you'll drop to a terminal.
[12:27] <chelu> oks, thx a lot
[12:27] <rob_p> chelu:  To get back to graphical mode, do a ctrl-alt-f7
[12:28] <chelu> ok, thx again rob_p
[12:28] <chelu> cu
[12:28] <rob_p> chelu:  If you simply want to shut down the graphical session,
[12:28] <Drgb> rob_p, same error, gnome-settings-*somethingelse* could not start
[12:28] <rob_p> oops!  too late!
[12:28] <Astxist> does anyone know if bugzilla.ubuntu.com makes your email public?
[12:28] <chicken-man> What do I need to play MPEG videos ?
[12:28] <rob_p> Drgb:  Check your system logs for clues then.
[12:28] <Drgb> where are system logs? :DDD
[12:29] <rob_p> Drgb:  /var/log
[12:29] <Steinbeck1> that didnt work
[12:29] <Steinbeck1> same issu
[12:29] <Steinbeck1> issue*
[12:29] <bruce_> hello
[12:30] <chicken-man> What do I need to play MPEG videos ?
[12:30] <rob_p> Steinbeck1:  Are you saying that you want the machine to start without loading X by default?
[12:30] <brenner> chicken-man: what player?
[12:30] <smitten> Can anyone tell me how to get the font 'fixed' to show up in fontconfig
[12:30] <chicken-man> brenner: what player should i use ?
[12:30] <brenner> chicken-man: most players come with their own codecs, if you want to use totem, you'll need to get them seperately
[12:30] <Steinbeck1> well just so I can set it to vesa
[12:30] <smitten> I did a 'dpkg-reconfigure xfonts-100dpi' and enabled bitmapped fonts, but fixed looked horrible.
[12:31] <Steinbeck1> because ati's drivers are have messed up the resolutions etc
[12:31] <chicken-man> brenner: so how do I play MPEG's with Totem ?
[12:31] <bruce_> I have a question and don't know how to search in forum or wiki... maybe you can help me... I have installed LAMP and now i want to link the webfiles from my fat32 partition to the /var/www/ without copying them... something like a mountpoint... ;)
[12:31] <burepe> Can windows machines write to ext3 file system?
[12:31] <brenner> chicken-man: sec
[12:31] <bruce_> @burepe i don't think so
[12:31] <Steinbeck1> and it seems the ati drivers are broken
[12:31] <Astxist> burepe, not that I know of
[12:31] <brenner> chicken-man: ok, enabled universe and multiverse?
[12:32] <chicken-man> brenner: yep
[12:32] <Corin> how can i kill the mysql process in linux command-line?
[12:32] <Astxist> pskill?
[12:32] <brenner> chicken-man: ok, first install totem-xine
[12:32] <Corin> pskill what?
[12:32] <brenner> chicken-man: most people seem to have trouble with the default gstreamer backend
[12:32] <bruce_> Corin top and then you see wicht nr. ...
[12:32] <Astxist> sorry try kill
[12:32] <Steinbeck1> thats the reason why my glxgears fps was so bad
[12:32] <burepe> I got a fat32 and fat32 can't make files bigger than 2gb what kind of file system can I use for big files that linux and windows can use?
[12:32] <Corin> just "kill mysql" or what?
[12:33] <chicken-man> brenner: ok installing
[12:33] <chelu> what a shit
[12:33] <chelu> I cant kill X
[12:33] <Drgb> rob_p, ok, i got it..........it's a matter of permissions, how to allow user drgb to read and write the most folders?
[12:34] <Astxist> Corin, I just kno the kill cmd I don't know how to list current processes
[12:34] <brenner> chicken-man: then get: gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg ... um, and get gstreamer0.8-mad as well, then try an mpeg file
[12:34] <mjr> burepe, you'd probably need to use ext2/ext3 for that, along with appropriate extra drivers or explore2fs for windows
[12:34] <chelu> I can't find gdm in kill -L
[12:34] <chicken-man> brenner: ok
[12:35] <burepe> mjr where can I get thoes drivers?
[12:35] <brenner> chicken-man: you running breezy btw?
[12:35] <doodz> recently installed ubuntu 5.10, i was not prompted when i installed to supply a root password, is this normall ?
[12:35] <Astxist> yeah I had that too
[12:35] <chicken-man> brenner: no hoary (5.04) last time I tryed to upgrade it messed up my system
[12:35] <BROKEN_LADDER> doodz of course
[12:35] <BROKEN_LADDER> doodz you use sudo.
[12:36] <tcpip> anyone installed pppoe drivers for a onboard lan card on a 64bit system?
[12:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> chicken-man to breezy?
[12:36] <doodz> ooh
[12:36] <Drgb> i got it..........it's a matter of permissions, how to allow user drgb to read and write the most folders?        <--------------> sry for quoting myself
[12:36] <chelu> rob_p, I can't find gdm in the process list
[12:36] <doodz> thanks ladder
[12:36] <brenner> chelu: iirc: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> chicken-man i had tons of problems with breezy.  i just reinstalled breezy from disc, and now it's all fixed. everything works.
[12:36] <chicken-man> BROKEN_LADDER: Don't have the breezy disk
[12:36] <Astxist> doodz, How do I set/change/enable root user password?
[12:36] <Astxist> sudo passwd root
[12:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> doodz you can create a root password, but it's better not to.
[12:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> chicken-man download it.
[12:36] <chelu> ok, i'm triying
[12:36] <Astxist> from the help file
[12:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> chicken-man the ubuntu servers are absurdly fast
[12:37] <chicken-man> BROKEN_LADDER: Download the ISO or use the repositories ?
[12:37] <Drgb> i got it..........it's a matter of permissions, how to allow user drgb to read and write the most folders?        <--------------> sry for quoting myself
[12:37] <doodz> yep i agree, but how can you apt-get without root ?
[12:37] <doodz> hehe
[12:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> chicken-man did you try upgrading with apt-get and you had problems?  if so then download the iso and install from disc.
[12:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> chicken-man of course, copy your home directory and such first.
[12:38] <StevenK> doodz: You can set it to be setuid, but I wouldn't.
[12:38] <CookedGryphon> i have 2 related problems, 1 i can mount a wondows shared drive and read  from it, but I can't write to it, the drive is ntfs, would this stop me writign to it? also to mount said disk I have to go into netweorkign and set the domain every single time, it jstu resets to nothing for some reason? can someone tell me how to stop it doing that or else how to set that from the command line...
[12:38] <CookedGryphon> ...because i mount it using a script anyway. sorry about the length
[12:38] <doodz> haha
[12:38] <chicken-man> BROKEN_LADDER: but my CD-RW is broken lol
[12:39] <Drgb> please......don't let me repeat that message again...................
[12:39] <brenner> CookedGryphon: ntfs write support isn't safe iirc
[12:40] <brenner> iirc, there are distros with proprietary drivers for it though that let you write
[12:40] <CookedGryphon> brenner: okay then, but how do i sort the domain problem, at the moment i have to manually go to administration > networking and set the domain name there
[12:40] <CookedGryphon> which is annoying, cos i like things to sort themselves
[12:41] <Rawplayer> re
[12:41] <brenner> CookedGryphon: no idea, but i'm sure someone else does
[12:41] <brenner> s/does/has one
[12:41] <Drgb> how to allow a user to read and write in EVERY folder??????????????
[12:42] <bruce_> sudo nautilus ;)
[12:42] <CookedGryphon> Drgb: are you sure that's wise?
[12:42] <CookedGryphon> Drgb, if you do that u may as well log in as a super user jstu about
[12:43] <brenner> chicken-man: mpeg files work?
[12:43] <Astxist> maybe he means one dir and all it's sub dirs?
[12:43] <Drgb> CookedGryphon, i want to do it because "drgb" user can't access to his start folders
[12:43] <Drgb> i can't use drgb with gnome
[12:43] <Drgb> and log says hundreds of times "permission denied"
[12:44] <brenner> Astxist: no, i have a feeling _every_ folder
[12:44] <Drgb> CookedGryphon, what should i do?????
[12:44] <Astxist> :/
[12:44] <CookedGryphon> go into a terminal
[12:44] <Pjott\WORK> Hi all =)
[12:44] <CookedGryphon> and type "ls -la /home/drgb"
[12:44] <Drgb> i thought i can throw the computer down from the wondow....but i'm at first floor!!!
[12:45] <Drgb> ok, i try
[12:45] <Drgb> it shown me a list of folders
[12:45] <tcpip> hmm
[12:46] <CookedGryphon> actually lol it would be easier to do ls -la /home and ther eshould be a line like "drwx------  79 drgb drgb  4096 2005-11-15 11:32 drgb"
[12:46] <doodz> by defualt gnome is installed, how do i install kde ?
[12:47] <StevenK> doodz: Download Kubuntu
[12:47] <CookedGryphon> the drwx at the start means that drgb can read write and execute files in it, the drgb drgb means drgb owns it
[12:47] <doodz> neat
[12:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> what do i need to install to make my system able to hibernate?
[12:47] <chicken-man> brenner: Thanks it works :-D
[12:47] <CookedGryphon> doodz: apt-get install kubuntu-base i think
[12:47] <Drgb> drwxr-xr-x   7 drgb  drgb   336 2005-11-15 12:40 drgb
[12:47] <brenner> chicken-man: np
[12:47] <CookedGryphon> doodz: or it may be kubuntu-desktop i can't remember
[12:47] <Drgb> this is the raw i think
[12:47] <Drgb> it says i got access
[12:47] <Drgb> but
[12:47] <doodz> thanks i'll cache search
[12:47] <doodz> :)
[12:48] <Drgb> log files said i don't have access to tmp folder
[12:48] <Drgb> so i couldn't start a gnome session
[12:48] <Drgb> just terminal
[12:48] <Drgb> what should i do?
[12:48] <N1omi> CookedGryphon: apt-get kubuntu-desktop?
[12:49] <CookedGryphon> N1omi: yeah, its a metapackage that depends on all the kde files
[12:49] <CookedGryphon> Drgb: what's the exact file that it can't find? its not somethign line ICEauthority is it/
[12:50] <Drgb> there's something like a thousand of raws saying "permission denied".....let me take a look
[12:50] <AMDXP> thanks but i think mine is hardware related windows wont install SUSE freezes up and Ubuntu freezes up and I know all those CDs are not bad
[12:50] <CookedGryphon> k, i want the exact directory and a few filenames
[12:51] <Drgb> it takes a while to open syslog..
[12:52] <doodz> does the dvd version of ubuntu come with a heap of packages from apt ?
[12:52] <doodz> to save me downloading 460mb for kubuntu-desktop
[12:52] <Drgb> CookedGryphon,  Failed to open /tmp/gconfd-drgb: Permission denied
[12:52] <Drgb> this is repeated thousands and thousands of times
[12:53] <Drgb> :'''(
[12:53] <chicken-man> Drgb: chmod it ?
[12:53] <Drgb> chicken-man, how?
[12:53] <N1omi> doodz: you can download #kubuntu
[12:53] <chicken-man> Drgb: chmod u+rwx [file\folder] 
[12:54] <jedrick> how to install alsa plugins
[12:54] <CookedGryphon> drgb, don't sudo chmod u+rwx /etc tho
[12:55] <Drgb> "don't"????
[12:55] <CookedGryphon> jsut "chmod u+rwx /etc/*drgb*
[12:55] <Drgb> uhm...ok
[12:55] <CookedGryphon> cos otherwise you would change the permissions of some files that aren't meant to be read/write etc. and that would cause more errors
[12:55] <CookedGryphon> so jstu change the ones with ure name in that u own
[12:56] <Drgb> `/etc/*drgb*': No such file or directory
[12:56] <CookedGryphon> bugger
[12:56] <CookedGryphon> lol
[12:56] <Drgb> ghghgh
[12:56] <Drgb> let me try
[12:56] <Drgb> i chmodded /tmp
[12:56] <Drgb> i try to lign now
[12:56] <CookedGryphon> hmmmmmm
[12:56] <Drgb> *login
[12:56] <CookedGryphon> things like X0-lock won't like it
[12:57] <Drgb> let's see it
[12:57] <Drgb> bb
[12:57] <Drgb> l8r
[12:58] <J_Element> any one is familiar with the freebsd
[12:58] <Steinbeck1> so much for ati
[12:58] <chicken-man> J_Element: me
[12:59] <J_Element> chicken-man
[12:59] <J_Element> can i ask u about it ! or is that a bother bro ?
[12:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> a
[12:59] <chicken-man> J_Element: not at all I have lot's of time
[01:00] <Seveas> J_Element, this channel is not about bsd...
[01:00] <J_Element> Seveas i know man
[01:00] <J_Element> i got ubuntu ... installed
[01:00] <J_Element> but this channel has helped me a lot
[01:00] <Seveas> try #freebsd
[01:00] <J_Element> so im tryin  my luck with freebsd aswell
[01:00] <brenner> Steinbeck1: what probs you having? just the slow framerate?
[01:00] <Corin> can anyone here help me with webalizer?
[01:00] <J_Element> Seveas i did! no ones answering
[01:01] <Seveas> J_Element, then try a mailing list for bsd, but not this channel
[01:01] <Steinbeck1> no it seems the installer was broke
[01:01] <Steinbeck1> but i downloaded it twice
[01:01] <chicken-man> J_Element: freeBSD is crappy i used it for a few hours and got bored :-)
[01:01] <Steinbeck1> missing some library file or something
[01:01] <Seveas> Steinbeck1, I just installed it, works fine here
[01:01] <Steinbeck1> what steps did you take?
[01:01] <Seveas> download the installer
[01:01] <Steinbeck1> maybe i did something wrong
[01:01] <Seveas> fakroot ./ati-blabla-run
[01:01] <Seveas> let it generate debs
[01:02] <Seveas> install the debs
[01:02] <Seveas> create and install kernel module with module-assistant
[01:02] <Seveas> reboot
[01:02] <Steinbeck1> i must of done something wrong than
[01:02] <Corin> can anyone help me get webalizer working?
[01:02] <Seveas> If you use the -686 kernel you can use the debs it created for me
[01:02] <Steinbeck1> because i did ./ati* but afterwards it just brought up the installer
[01:02] <J_Element> chicken-man :  umm its giving me an error when i startx
[01:03] <chicken-man> J_Element: Did you make sure it's fully installed ?
[01:03] <Drgb> nothing to do guys......it gives me lots of errors, i had to reboot
[01:03] <Seveas> J_Element, chicken-man #ubutnu-offtopic please
[01:03] <Drgb> i can't start the "gnome-settings-daemon" or something similar
[01:03] <Drgb> any suggestions?????
[01:04] <Seveas> Drgb, sudo ifup lo
[01:04] <N1omi> how can i mount a .cue/.bin? also, gksudo network-admincan i have some real-people recomendations for VNC viewers and software?
[01:04] <N1omi> err, ignore gksudo network-admin
[01:04] <Seveas> N1omi, 1) not, convert it to iso with bchunk 2) FreeNX
[01:04] <Drgb> Seveas,  ifup: interface lo already configured
[01:05] <Seveas> Drgb, you said you chmodded /tmp, that's bad
[01:05] <Drgb> chicken-man, i need a chicken to put into my mouth and stop breathing....
[01:05] <Seveas> sudo chmod 777 /tmp
[01:05] <Seveas> sudo chmod +t /tmp
[01:05] <Drgb> Seveas, i chmodded another folder inside tmp
[01:05] <Drgb> not tmp at all
[01:05] <chicken-man> Drgb: ? :-/
[01:05] <Seveas> Drgb, which one?
[01:05] <Corin> can someone please help me with webalizer? ive installed it, but /var/www/webalizer/ is an empty folder...
[01:06] <Drgb> gconfd-drgb
[01:06] <Drgb> but it vanished now, there's no such folder...
[01:06] <Drgb> omg..
[01:06] <sean_> how can i wach avi in ubuntu 64????
[01:06] <chicken-man> brb
[01:06] <hachre> if the permissions are wrong gnome deletes the folders i think, Drgb
[01:07] <sean_> how can i wach avi in ubuntu 64????
[01:07] <Drgb> and......what should i do then?
[01:07] <N1omi> sean_: same way you would in ubuntu 32, i think
[01:07] <sean_> how???
[01:07] <Drgb> maybe just "deluser drgb" and forive about having another user here....
[01:07] <Drgb> *forgive
[01:07] <N1omi> sean_: install proprietary codecs
[01:07] <Pjott\WORK> f**k! S**t, MotherF***ing Visual Basic! Burn in hell Windows! ...sorry. Visual basic freaked out, and I forgot to save my work first. Thank god for Linux!
[01:07] <chicken-man> Back
[01:08] <StevenK> sean_: Have a read of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:08] <Corin> who are you penalising Seveas?
[01:08] <Corin> :P
[01:08] <Pjott\WORK> :/
[01:08] <Astxist> Pjott\WORK, heh
[01:08] <Pjott\WORK> That's the way it is...
[01:09] <Seveas> Pjott\WORK: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[01:09] <Pjott\WORK> Well, back to work I'm going, after a relaxed cigarette ;)
[01:09] <Pjott\WORK> Seveas: Sure ;)
[01:09] <Pjott\WORK> Sorry for that, it will never happen again :D
[01:09] <hachre> Drgb, whats the problem - i came on too late
[01:09] <Corin> can someone PLEASE help me wth webalizer???
[01:09] <Pjott\WORK> Anyways... I'm off
[01:09] <Seveas> Corin: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[01:09] <Drgb> hachre, i'm trying to create a new user and log with it in a gnome session
[01:09] <Steinbeck1> how do i know what Ubuntu i have?
[01:10] <Corin> mailing list?
[01:10] <N1omi> Seveas: thanks for that program
[01:10] <StevenK> Steinbeck1: cat /etc/lsb-release
[01:10] <Seveas> Steinbeck1, cat /etc/issue
[01:10] <Seveas> !mail
[01:10] <Drgb> but i can't start the gnome session....when i try it gives me lots of errors
[01:10] <ubotu> mail is probably another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com/
[01:10] <StevenK> Blah, or that. :-)
[01:10] <olicat> anyone know which package has the setfacl command?
[01:10] <Drgb> and i have to reboot
[01:10] <Seveas> ^-- Corin
[01:10] <hachre> Drgb, did you use the Users & Group program from the gnome menu?
[01:10] <Seveas> !find setfacl
[01:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'setfacl' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/setfacl) in universe/utils/acl.
[01:11] <Drgb> hachre, i installed my os manually on another old os so i don't have every program
[01:11] <Drgb> i have to do it by command line
[01:11] <Seveas> olicat, the 'acl' package it seems
[01:11] <Steinbeck1> ok ati is giving me a choice to generate packages for 5.10 and another choice for breezy
[01:11] <olicat> Seveas, cool i'll have a look, thanks
[01:11] <Steinbeck1> which do i pick
[01:11] <Steinbeck1> or do i pick both?
[01:11] <Drgb> but if you tell me how to unstall the users and group manager manually maybe i can use that....
[01:11] <hachre> Drgb, did you use useradd -m name then?
[01:11] <StevenK> Steinbeck1: It depends on what /etc/issue says.
[01:11] <Drgb> -m????
[01:11] <chicken-man> Can someone tell me why Evolution is so god damn slow it take like 2 minutes to get each email :-(
[01:11] <Seveas> Steinbeck1, either
[01:11] <Drgb> why -m?
[01:12] <dorto> i was trying to pring a .ps file in ubuntu in evince. there is no option to print only even or only odd pages?
[01:12] <Drgb> i used "adduser drgb"
[01:12] <hachre> Drgb: -m creates the home directory
[01:12] <Steinbeck1> it says Ubuntu breezy 5.10
[01:12] <Steinbeck1> ok
[01:12] <hachre> drgb: you need to use -m always - a user without a home directory wont work with gnome
[01:12] <dorto> i want to print on both sides of the paper. how to go about it?
[01:12] <StevenK> Steinbeck1: Then grab the Breezy one.
[01:12] <Seveas> dorto, manually feed each sheet of paper...
[01:12] <hachre> Drgb: try to delete the user again with userdel and delete his stuff in /tmp
[01:12] <Seveas> (yes it sucks, and no there is no other way..)
[01:12] <hachre> Drgb: then recreate with useradd -m
[01:12] <Drgb> ok...i try
[01:13] <johnm> Seveas: can't yu get a duplexer for that printer?
[01:13] <dorto> :(
[01:14] <dorto> adobe acrobat has such an option
[01:14] <chicken-man> Can someone tell me why Evolution is so god damn slow it take like 2 minutes to get each email :-(
[01:14] <dorto> maybe i should search for it for ubuntu too
[01:14] <brenner> my apt-cache seems to be cleared every day or so (hoary didn't seem to do this), and i have to update which is a pain (i'm still on diakup) ... how can i resovle this?
[01:14] <Steinbeck1> ok it gave me an error when installing
[01:14] <Seveas> dorto, it's in mutliverse
[01:14] <johnm> dorto: you can get acrobat reader fo rlinux
[01:14] <dorto> or i will have to go to windows just for taking printouts
[01:14] <Steinbeck1> says dpkg-buildpackage command not found
[01:14] <chicken-man> brenner: get broadband :-D
[01:14] <dorto> ok
[01:15] <StevenK> Steinbeck1: Install dpkg-dev and build-essential
[01:15] <StevenK> Er, just build-essential.
[01:15] <brenner> chicken-man: that still won't resolve my apt-cache getting cleared :-/
[01:15] <surfdue> how do i upgrade the mysql4 to 5
[01:15] <brenner> it would just make it less painful :)
[01:15] <surfdue> in package system
[01:15] <Seveas> Steinbeck1, which kernel do you use?
[01:16] <chicken-man> Is there a good mail program for gnome as Evolution is too slow ?
[01:16] <Seveas> chicken-man, thunderbird perhaps
[01:16] <johnm> chicken-man: balsa, thunderbird?
[01:16] <highvoltage> chickenbirf
[01:16] <highvoltage> chickenbird
[01:17] <selinium> Hi all, i have just reinstalled breezy. I keep the /home directory on a seperate HD. My user is working fine but after setting up another user. it fails to open this user. one with a security on $HOME/.dmrc and also the x session does not last for more than ten secs. Any ideas?
[01:17] <nalioth> chicken-man: sylpheed-claws
[01:17] <Drgb> Who told me to use "-m"???????????????????????????????'
[01:18] <Drgb> whoever did......he's a genius, thanx very much guys c u all
[01:18] <topmate> how can I install a deb package I've downloaded?
[01:18] <StevenK> topmate: sudo dpkg -i <deb file>
[01:18] <StevenK> topmate: In a terminal, of course.
[01:18] <selinium> Seveas: is there a password or something on your java file in the repo? I get a 404 whenever I try
[01:19] <Steinbeck1> how do you kill an application?
[01:19] <Steinbeck1> 2.6
[01:19] <fsmw> chicken-man, do you have remote test for spam in evolution?
[01:19] <Seveas> selinium, no it's a misconfiguration in the repo
[01:19] <topmate> ah, good point steven, doh!
[01:19] <brenner> topmate: what is it?
[01:19] <Seveas> i'll solve it later today
[01:19] <chicken-man> fsmw: not sure
[01:19] <selinium> np :) CHeers Seveas :)
[01:19] <fsmw> that make it slow....
[01:20] <fsmw> check your config at preferences
[01:20] <chicken-man> fsmw: ok
[01:20] <fsmw> evo isn't slow
[01:21] <chicken-man> fsmw: My computer is :-D
[01:21] <fsmw> remove update-manager and update-notifier...
[01:21] <fsmw> that are slow
[01:23] <chicken-man> fsmw: don't have them, I installed gnome from a server install :-P
[01:24] <brenner> fsmw: aren't those seperate apps though?
[01:24] <fsmw> yes they are, but are slow
[01:24] <fsmw> and i'm a python fan....
[01:25] <brenner> but how do they slow up evo then?
[01:25] <brenner> or do they slow up gnome in general?
[01:26] <lingoist> hello! just partly succeeded with installing ubuntu...anyhow, when i start up in "normal mode" (not recovery) I get a black screen
[01:26] <Steinbeck1> ive installed the dpkg-dev and build-essentials and it still gets and still getting errors
[01:26] <fsmw> brenner, in general
[01:27] <Steinbeck1> says make: dh_testdir: Command not found
[01:27] <brenner> fsmw: nice.  any other spped tweaks?
[01:27] <brenner> *speed
[01:27] <Steinbeck1> any ideas?
[01:28] <fsmw> check your services...
[01:28] <jedrick> how to install alsa plugins?
[01:28] <brenner> lingoist: this your 1st distro?
[01:28] <AzMoo> Anyway I can just install the php binary without apache?
[01:28] <fsmw> s
[01:28] <fsmw> brenner, service-admin
[01:29] <lingoist> brenner: the first I was able to install on my a6va notebook....see: http://jeriko.l-tech.org/2005/10/18/asus-a6va-und-ubuntu-510/
[01:29] <brenner> services-admin :)
[01:29] <brenner> lingoist: just asking b/c i was gonna suggest [1]  looking at the xorg log [2]  trying the vesa driver
[01:30] <onkarshinde> I want to use eclipse in breezy and want to make sure that programs I compile in it run on other JVMs. Which package should I install?
[01:30] <lingoist> brenner: whats [1]  and [2]  ? :)
[01:30] <chicken-man> lingoist: try starting in recovery mode and run startx
[01:30] <brenner> er, isn't it obvious?
[01:31] <brenner> i was just numbering the options
[01:31] <lingoist> chicken-man: black again
[01:31] <lingoist> brenner: i see
[01:31] <chicken-man> lingoist: check the logs
[01:32] <lingoist> how can i kill the xserver again?
[01:32] <aftertaf> stop gdm/kdm or kill xorg
[01:32] <lingoist> chicken-man: dunno where to find the logs :( am new...
[01:32] <aftertaf> /var/logs
[01:32] <brenner> lingoist: try ctrl+alt+f1
[01:32] <lingoist> thx aftertaf
[01:33] <lingoist> aftertaf: how do i get out of black again...cant type as i cant see
[01:33] <brenner> lingoist: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:33] <chicken-man> brb (need food)
[01:33] <lingoist> brenner: will do in a sec...thx!
[01:33] <brenner> lingoist: which is why i recommended the key sequence
[01:33] <brenner> :P
[01:33] <lingoist> ok, will restart then
[01:33] <aftertaf> lingoist:  black on black? erf... better to not kill like brenner said then...
[01:33] <onkarshinde> I want to use eclipse in breezy and want to make sure that programs I compile in it run on other JVMs. Which package should I install?
[01:34] <brenner> oh?
[01:35] <jedrick> how to install alsa plugins? or change my oss plugin to alsa
[01:35] <aftertaf> jedrick:  for system sounds, or in a media player?
[01:35] <ceej> does anyone know how to uninstall limewire
[01:35] <jedrick> for system
[01:36] <aftertaf> jedrick:  gnome, i dunno.... check in your control centre type of thing.... should be a dropdown list somewhere.
[01:36] <jedrick> aftertaf: where?
[01:36] <onkarshinde> jedrick: alsa is not plugin. It is sound architecture and provides drivers. You can change OSS to alsa from System->Preferences->Sound
[01:36] <onkarshinde> ceej: How did you install it?
[01:36] <aftertaf> thx onkarshinde :)
[01:36] <jedrick> onfire_nux: ok i'll try
[01:37] <ceej> automatrix
[01:37] <lingoist> ok, my xorg.conf says: Driver "ati" ... just change it to "vesa" ?
[01:37] <onkarshinde> ceej: what is automatrix?
[01:37] <jedrick> there's no alsa in there, my default sound card is SIS
[01:37] <onkarshinde> lingoist: What are you trying to do?
[01:37] <brenner> lingoist: yes, try that
[01:38] <onkarshinde> jedrick: Just wait, I will tell you exact menu
[01:38] <jedrick> onkarshinde:  ok
[01:38] <lingoist> brenner: ok, works :)
[01:38] <brenner> lingoist: got into X?
[01:39] <onkarshinde> jedrick: What version of Ubuntu?
[01:39] <lingoist> brenner: yes
[01:39] <lingoist> but: internal error: faild to initialize HAL
[01:39] <jedrick> breezy
[01:39] <ceej> E: Unable to correct missing packages
[01:39] <sazwerx> how to activate wheelmouse?
[01:39] <ceej> W: Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb
[01:39] <ceej>   404 Not Found
[01:39] <ceej> can anyone help?
[01:39] <lingoist> first time i see the ubuntu screen...kewl... :) thx guys
[01:39] <ceej> says that when i het apply in SPM
[01:40] <brenner> lingoist: np, you won't have 3d accel though
[01:40] <Steinbeck1> im getting an /usr/bin/dpkg-buildpackage: line 175: fakeroot: command not found....when trying to install ati
[01:40] <onkarshinde> jedrick: In Preferences see Multimedia Systems Selector
[01:40] <Steinbeck1> drivers any ideas on what it is?
[01:40] <SpaceNuts> ceej, you better ask that in #ubuntu-nl seveas is a ubuntu-nl member
[01:40] <brenner> you might want to try the fglrx driver for that ... what card do you have?
[01:40] <Seveas> SpaceNuts, koekoek
[01:40] <Seveas> I'm here too :)
[01:40] <jedrick> onkarshinde: ok
[01:40] <SpaceNuts> Seveas, oi sorry :D
[01:40] <onkarshinde> Steinbeck1: How are you trying to install it?
[01:40] <ceej> k
[01:40] <onkarshinde> Steinbeck1: which ati card?
[01:41] <lingoist> hm, there are a few howtos on the site i posted before...guess i will be able to make it run myself...hopefully...if not i'll come back and annoy you guys a bit more ;) thx so far!!!
[01:41] <SpaceNuts> does anyone know how to disable the use of swap on the harddisk when booting the livecd, so the livecd does not activate the swap on the harddisk?
[01:41] <Steinbeck1> x800
[01:41] <brenner> lingoist: better to use the wiki imo
[01:41] <lingoist> ok, thx brenner
[01:41] <lingoist> URL?
[01:42] <lingoist> this ubuntu stuff looks amazing!! wow!!
[01:42] <onkarshinde> Steinbeck1: Did you try fglrx driver that can be installed from repos?
[01:42] <brenner> lingoist: wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <queuetue> Has mono finally "infected" evolution?  The latest build it so slow and crashy ... I'm thinking of doing my mail on my mac laptop from now on instead.
[01:42] <onkarshinde> !info ati
[01:42] <lingoist> thx a lot brenner...could have guessed :)
[01:42] <brenner> lingoist: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI in particular
[01:43] <queuetue> ("latest build == "shipped with breezy")
[01:43] <Seveas> ceej, Java is not downloadable there atm
[01:43] <ceej> how come?
[01:43] <Steinbeck1> no :)
[01:43] <Steinbeck1> ill try that
[01:43] <onkarshinde> !tell Steinbeck1 about ati
[01:43] <ceej> Seveas: do you know when it will be?
[01:44] <Seveas> ceej, sometime between now and 2010 probably
[01:45] <ceej> Seveas: LOL!!!
[01:45] <ubuntu-newbie> sup
[01:45] <ubuntu-newbie> i was upgrading to breeze
[01:45] <ubuntu-newbie> and i got this msg people
[01:45] <ubuntu-newbie> help
[01:45] <ubuntu-newbie> Fetched 398MB in 3d 5h16m30s (1432B/s)
[01:45] <ubuntu-newbie> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libx/libxt/libxt6_0.99.0+cvs.20050803-3_i386.deb  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.167). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: 82.211.81.167 80] 
[01:45] <ubuntu-newbie> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libx/libxmu/libxmu6_6.2.3-5_i386.deb  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.167). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: 82.211.81.167 80] 
[01:45] <ubuntu-newbie> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libx/libxpm/libxpm4_3.5.2-5_i386.deb  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.167). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: 82.211.81.167 80] 
[01:45] <Seveas> a*hole
[01:45] <Seveas> NEVERF paste in here
[01:45] <onkarshinde> Seveas: his nick indicates what he is.
[01:46] <SpaceNuts> Seveas, he didn't paste, he typed it :D
[01:46] <Seveas> even newbies should not paste
[01:46] <Seveas> rofl
[01:46] <steve_gator> ive never used irc before...
[01:46] <brenner> fresh meat
[01:47] <SpaceNuts> steve_gator, congrats, you are devirginezed right now ;)
[01:47] <onkarshinde> When will OOo2 be updated?
[01:48] <steve_gator> ta, ive got ubuntu on my LG ls50-6 laptop what about u guys..
[01:48] <ceej> how do i remove a directory in the terminal?
[01:48] <SpaceNuts> OOo2, is to much like MS Word
[01:48] <SpaceNuts> ceej
[01:48] <Seveas> ceej, rmdir
[01:48] <ceej> sudo rm /opt dosn't work
[01:48] <SpaceNuts> ceej, rm -r dirname
[01:48] <ceej> ah ok, thanks soz :)
[01:48] <brenner> steve_gator: got it on my laptop too
[01:48] <SpaceNuts> ceej, or rmdir for empty dirs
[01:48] <onkarshinde> ceej: rmdir name if it is empty else \rm -rf name
[01:49] <aeon17x> Take care using the -rf option though.
[01:49] <Coburn> can i put xfdesktop on gnome ??
[01:49] <steve_gator> hey brenner is it a LG?
[01:49] <ceej> thank you
[01:49] <brenner> steve_gator: nope, compaq. why, having probs?
[01:50] <queuetue> After upgrading to breezy, everyone is having a really rough time with evolution - random crashes, *HUGE* memory consumption ... is there a way to get a lighter evo, with maybe less "enterprise" crap and *no* mono?
[01:50] <Coburn> can i put xfdesktop on gnome ?? please tell me something
[01:50] <brenner> well, i've heard 3 complaints in 2 hrs
[01:51] <queuetue> 5 people now have told me they need to double the ram they used wit hoary in order to acommodate evolution under breezy ...
[01:51] <steve_gator> Nope , it rocks i'm very happy with it , on par with mepis..
[01:51] <aeon17x> queuetue: o_O
[01:51] <aeon17x> queuetue: surely they must be joking?
[01:52] <queuetue> aeon17x: I've never understood what that expression was supposed to mean...
[01:52] <queuetue> aeon17x: But, no , no one isjoking.  Evolution is requiring around 800 megs, on average.
[01:52] <brenner> steve_gator: brilliant
[01:52] <aeon17x> o_O -> partial shock
[01:53] <StDellis> wuts evolution?
[01:53] <steve_gator> hey brenner, how come your highlighted in red with my name ( i am new ti irc...)
[01:53] <shtron> Seveas, Earlier you told me not to only compile kernel the way ubuntu wiki explain. what's wrong with the old fashion way? if I need 2.6.14, can I use apt-get to get the source and then patch it from kernel.org?
[01:53] <aeon17x> StDellis: the default e-mail client... it's right beside Firefox on the top panel.
[01:53] <StDellis> oh yes
[01:53] <Coburn85> can i put xfdesktop on gnome ?? please tell me something
[01:53] <brenner> steve_gator: b/c i've used your name in my post, it's meant to grab your attention
[01:53] <Seveas> shtron, why do you need 2.6.14?
[01:54] <brenner> steve_gator: your message comes up as blue when you put my name in your post
[01:54] <Seveas> Breezy is built on .12, thing may break with .14
[01:54] <paulgnu> espaol
[01:54] <Seveas> !es
[01:54] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:54] <Coburn85> you are 585 and there isnt any person who can tell me something
[01:54] <steve_gator> brenner: thanx i'm using x-chat
[01:54] <brenner> steve_gator: me too
[01:55] <shtron> Seveas, cause I have an operation systems project from my university and it was decided that that's the kernel version we'll use...
[01:55] <Seveas> shtron, right...
[01:55] <brenner> i've changed my colors though, and added transparency for eye candy :)
[01:55] <Coburn85> can i put xfdesktop on gnome ?? please tell me something
[01:55] <Seveas> ymmv, but kernel.org sources + ubuntu config (and some patches) should work
[01:55] <Seveas> Coburn: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[01:55] <steve_gator> brenner: Where in australia? i'm in adelaide
[01:55] <StDellis> I wish I knew more about linux
[01:56] <ceej> do i have to isntall java for firefox by hand then?
[01:56] <aeon17x> StDellis: read the docs, they'll tell you all you need to know :)
[01:56] <StDellis> lol wut docs?
[01:56] <brenner> steve_gator: oh, i didn't notice your were a fellow aussie, i'm in melb
[01:56] <shtron> Seveas, so will patching cause trouble?
[01:56] <Astxist> trawl the forums and the readmes then StDellis :)
[01:56] <Seveas> StDellis, the dictionary perhaps...
[01:56] <aeon17x> StDellis: the thing beside Evolution... the help files.
[01:56] <steve_gator> brenner: does your laptop work ok with ubuntu...any probs?
[01:58] <StDellis> is there anyway to see computer specs such as ram cpu usage etc.
[01:58] <brenner> steve_gator: well, my modem doesn't work ... but besides that, breezy works great.  i can now enable DMA with the new kernel, so things are running really fast
[01:58] <brenner> by modem i mean the internal 56k one....i don't have broadband so haven't tried out wifi or whatever
[01:58] <brenner> but i'm guessing it would work fine
[01:59] <aeon17x> StDellis: Applications > System Tools > System Monitor
[01:59] <aeon17x> StDellis: if you to see it live all the time, you can add the System Monitor applet to one of your panels.
[01:59] <steve_gator> brenner: my modem didnt work at first..i had to install sl-modem files from synaptic (wireless over HarveyNorman broardband :-) )
[01:59] <ceej> how do you run a .bin file?
[02:00] <brenner> steve_gator: harvey norman is an isp now?
[02:00] <chicken-man> back
[02:00] <brenner> ceej: ./<bin file> in the dir it's in
[02:00] <brenner> or use an absolute path i guess
[02:00] <steve_gator> brenner: yes from their public unencrypted accesspoints in the car park :-()
[02:00] <ceej> brenner: thats what i thought but it din't work
[02:01] <brenner> ceej: chmod +x'ed it?
[02:01] <piotrek> Hi, I whant to recompile my kernel. I have AMD. I shoul choose image AMD K7 ?
[02:01] <steve_gator> brenner: 169 kbs
[02:01] <brenner> ceej: i.e. is it executable?
[02:01] <brenner> steve_gator: still better than dialup
[02:01] <brenner> steve_gator: gee, that sounds secure. :-/
[02:02] <StDellis> aeon17x how would I set it to do that?
[02:02] <ceej> brenner: permisson dennied
[02:02] <steve_gator> brenner: install kismet and have a laugh......
[02:02] <aeon17x> StDellis: right click one of your panels and add it.
[02:02] <ceej> brenner: its ok done it
[02:02] <shtron> Seveas, I didn't understand that answer: "right...". do you think I'm kidding you?
[02:02] <ceej> brenner: thank u
[02:02] <brenner> np
[02:03] <Seveas> shtron, no
[02:03] <brenner> steve_gator: gtg to work tomorrow, see you around and enjoy ubuntu. :)
[02:03] <Seveas> I think that the requiremet to use .14 is weird
[02:03] <steve_gator> brenner: sweet dreams
[02:03] <Seveas> but that's SO none of my business
[02:04] <johnm> Seveas: there are important security fixes in .14
[02:05] <ceej> ok i just did a manual install for java using the download at java.com, i go into firefox back to java.com and verify isntall and then the popup comes up asking me to install plugin :/
[02:05] <Seveas> johnm, Ubuntu kernels contain these fixes too
[02:06] <steve_gator> ceej : have you tried easy ubuntu?
[02:06] <johnm> Seveas: ok, few other little things to note.. FUSE, 802.11 stack, some important amd64 fixes.
[02:06] <shtron> Seveas, oh... well, it's not a requirement, we're a group of 3 students and we were told to pick what we want. any erason why not to use .14?
[02:06] <ceej> steve_gator: thats what im using
[02:06] <Seveas> johnm, fuse & 802.11 work fine in .12 too
[02:06] <johnm> Seveas: as external modules of course yes. but modular support shouldn't be a requirement.
[02:06] <Seveas> shtron, ubing a standard kernel is easier :)
[02:07] <Seveas> johnm, ubuntu builds everything as a module...
[02:07] <johnm> Seveas: also, the ieee80211 stack isn't the same as the one in .14
[02:07] <shtron> by standard you mean .12??
[02:07] <Seveas> for Breezy .12 is standard
[02:07] <steve_gator> ceej: "Easy-Ubuntu" is a prog that install all codecs and plugins (like java)
[02:07] <johnm> Seveas: of course.. but why are you assuming ubuntu requires the ubuntu kernels? :)
[02:07] <shtron> oh.. i see. ok. thanks
[02:07] <Seveas> steve_gator, such scripts as easyubuntu and automatix are crap
[02:07] <johnm> Seveas: a non-modular ubuntu is a valid request imo
[02:08] <ceej> steve_gator: nope, shall i search for it on google?
[02:08] <nickrud> ceej, you need to perform the steps at the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats ; modify to where you installed java
[02:08] <steve_gator> seveas: just trying to help.....
[02:08] <Seveas> johnm, in hoary for instance udev breaks when running .12
[02:08] <Seveas> it's not unthinkable that similar things happen on breezy with .14
[02:09] <johnm> Seveas: re: udev it is, but regarding devfs thats a valid concern. although anything still using devfs-isms should be solved properly, and on that scenario then .14 is going to be problematic if it's important.
[02:09] <johnm> Seveas: why did udev break with .12 in hoary anyways? which bug?
[02:09] <Seveas> johnm, probably it'll work fine, but you never know :)
[02:09] <Seveas> johnm, -EFORGOT
[02:09] <steve_gator> ceej: yep or try http://placelibre.ath.cx/keyes/index.php/2005/10/27/65-easy-ubuntu-24-beta
[02:09] <Seveas> bugzilla knows, I can't remember :)
[02:10] <johnm> Seveas: I can't remember any kernel related problem with udev. I do remember a few udev issues though.
[02:10] <nicologic> prova
[02:10] <johnm> Seveas: I feel the bug is probably one of those which was caused by unfortunate circumstance, rather than actual incompatibility of some variety.
[02:11] <NanoBCN28> hi guys, I'm experiencing problems with powernowd, any help?
[02:11] <Nermal> what problem
[02:11] <Seveas> johnm, it really was a kernel/udev interaction thing :)
[02:12] <NanoBCN28> it says " * CPU frequency scaling not supported
[02:12] <NanoBCN28> "
[02:12] <NanoBCN28> but I have understood PIV does support it
[02:12] <Nermal> NanoBCN28: what cpu ?
[02:12] <NanoBCN28> PIV 2.8 on Laptop
[02:12] <Nermal> NanoBCN28: what cpu ?
[02:13] <Nermal> ah
[02:13] <Nermal> P4
[02:13] <Nermal> hm
[02:13] <NanoBCN28> yes
[02:13] <johnm> Seveas: inw hich case I blame udev or the ubuntu patchset ;)
[02:13] <Nermal> breezy ?
[02:13] <ceej> nickrud: i've done all that still asking me to install plugin
[02:13] <NanoBCN28> breezy, yes, however it was the same in hoary and warty
[02:13] <Nermal> hum
[02:13] <NanoBCN28> but I never had a chance to dig into the problem deeply
[02:13] <johnm> Seveas: I can't remember it, but then again, the sources I maintain are selectively different, and greg works with udev, and updates it on top of some of my stuff anyways. So I likely may not have even spotted it
[02:14] <ceej> i've downlaod the files from java itself and installed them and still no joy
[02:14] <nickrud> ceej, I'd suggest removing that binary install of java, and using a java deb. Either make it yourself, or use one from !javadebs
[02:14] <NanoBCN28> funny thing is that the dir at /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0 is empy
[02:14] <NanoBCN28> empty
[02:15] <ceej> !javadebs
[02:15] <ubotu> Sun Java debs packaged for Ubuntu. Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy))
[02:15] <ceej> nickrud: the links broken ;/
[02:15] <nickrud> scripts that don't use packages are crap, I think
[02:16] <nickrud> ceej, do you still have the bin from sun?
[02:16] <johnm> Seveas: in fairness, this stuff will often crop up, but I very much doubt you can really tie it to a kernel as a problem. it's the mainline shift and the userland should be updated accordingly. but hell, not really a concern of mine
[02:16] <steve_gator> ceej: did u try easyUbuntu?
[02:16] <mahangu> anybody got their ipods to work with gtkpod?
[02:16] <nickrud> ceej, you can use that to make a deb in 3 easy steps
[02:17] <ceej> where do i get eas-ubuntu from?
[02:17] <milen> OMG!!!!!!!
[02:17] <milen> IOI
[02:17] <milen> LOL!
[02:17] <milen> LOL!
[02:17] <Rawplayer> LOL
[02:17] <milen> LOL OMG!..xD
[02:17] <Rawplayer> LOLLERSKATES
[02:17] <milen> PIKACHU..xD
[02:17] <milen> no te jode..xD
[02:17] <steve_gator> ceej : here- http://placelibre.ath.cx/keyes/index.php/2005/10/27/65-easy-ubuntu-24-beta
[02:18] <ceej> what i've done to instlal java is download the file from java and install it then goto https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats and do what it says there ;/
[02:18] <nalioth> ceej: better not to use easy-anything. they are not written responsibly and can destroy your installation
[02:18] <ceej> nalioth: well im not sure what else to do i've tried everyway to install java for firefox but no joy
[02:19] <nalioth> steve_gator: please do not recommand easy-anything in here, they are irresponsibly written
[02:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ceej about java
[02:19] <nalioth> ceej: what hardware and ubuntu arch are you running?
[02:19] <steve_gator> nalioth ; sorry, it works for me......tell me more
[02:20] <ceej> p4 3.4ghz HT
[02:20] <android> ceej, try download a program called automatix. It'll fix java, multimedia and things
[02:21] <Seveas> android, automatic is crap
[02:21] <ceej> android:did that already and didnt work
[02:21] <Seveas> just like easyubuntu
[02:21] <nalioth> steve_gator: the writers of the "easy-scripts" are under no oversight, and do not take all possible aspects into consideration
[02:21] <android> Seveas, as long as it works it's ok :)
[02:21] <nalioth> steve_gator: the scripts have been responsible for wrecking quite a few computers
[02:21] <Seveas> android, that's stupi
[02:21] <Seveas> f
[02:21] <steve_gator> nalioth: worth a try out of desperation
[02:22] <nalioth> steve_gator: ANY script that uses --force-all is not worth using at all
[02:22] <Seveas> yeah, "I'm desperate - let's wreck my system"
[02:22] <android> I'm tired of installing the same things after a reinstall..
[02:22] <nalioth> steve_gator: what were you desperate for?
[02:22] <Seveas> android, if you don't use automatix you don't need to reinstall :p
[02:22] <ceej> im just confused i've done everything to install java but it jsut still dosn't work ;/
[02:23] <android> Seveas, interesting point :)
[02:23] <steve_gator> nalioth ; quick install of the things to bring it up to mepis standard
[02:23] <deFrysk> ceej, is the .deb you created installed ?
[02:23] <nalioth> steve_gator: heh. i suspect it's mepis that lacks, but the wiki has everything you need to know and the safe ways to do it
[02:24] <deFrysk> ceej, as described in the wiki ?
[02:24] <Seveas> steve_gator, 'up to mepis'?
[02:24] <Seveas> down to mepis is more correct
[02:24] <deFrysk> waaaay down to mepis
[02:25] <deFrysk> mepis is slower than melasses on the magnetic south pole
[02:25] <steve_gator> nalioth: thanks but my system is running almost 100% now so no need to change anything (unless you can fix my internal sony memory stick / SD card reader...please)
[02:26] <nalioth> steve_gator: if it's running now, great. i hope you dont hit a wall in the future.
[02:27] <root_____> ive messed up x trying to configure xorg.conf...can someone tell me how to save and close emacs?
[02:27] <ceej> ok still no joy even using easy thingy!!!
[02:28] <folki> I would see partitions of disks formated in NTFS (Windows) in Ubuntu in others users, not in root. How can I do that?
[02:28] <ceej> how can i get java installed :(:(:(
[02:28] <steve_gator> nalioth: mepis included my sl-modem drivers, java , all multimedia codecs - i guess you can only suspect what it might be lacking
[02:28] <deFrysk> ceej, did you read the docs about java in the wiki ?
[02:29] <morzel> ceej:
[02:29] <ceej> deFrysk:yes did everything that it said ;/
[02:29] <nalioth> steve_gator: mepis is not "free" and is gonna have to pay the piper sometime
[02:29] <morzel> jre or sdk?
[02:29] <deFrysk> ceej, also the multijava thingey ?
[02:29] <Steinbeck1> or maybe reccomend an easier text editor to use without x
[02:29] <deFrysk> !tell ceej about multijava
[02:29] <Seveas> Steinbeck1, vim :)
[02:30] <Seveas> (or nano if you want it really easy)
[02:30] <deFrysk> nano and/or pico are easy
[02:30] <deFrysk> and virtually the same
[02:31] <Steinbeck1> exit
[02:31] <folki> how can i mount my disk?
[02:31] <Steinbeck1> how do you quit this damn thing from shell
[02:31] <deFrysk> Steinbeck1, /quit
[02:31] <steve_gator> nalioth: i take it you havnt tried it?
[02:32] <nalioth> steve_gator: i can read and understand shell scripts and those 'easy-scripts' scare me. some are just downright heinous
[02:33] <barongas> What's the differance between reiserfs and reiser4?
[02:34] <nalioth> barongas: they are the same
[02:34] <steve_gator> barongas: reiserfs = stable, reiser4= fast
[02:35] <barongas> ok, will it be a noteable speed differance?
[02:35] <nalioth> barongas: speed kills. reiser isnt as stable as ext2/3
[02:37] <ceej> working finally :D
[02:37] <zdennis> hey all...my java uses 400m+ of virtual memory whenever i start it.... any ideas of how I can stop that/
[02:37] <nalioth> zdennis: dont use java apps?
[02:37] <aftertaf> apart from avoiding java, no... :)
[02:38] <zdennis> aftertaf, lol ;|
[02:38] <steve_gator> ceej: and the solution was....
[02:38] <redguy> Does anyone know what encoding does OOo base use? Is there some place where I can set it up?
[02:38] <ceej> steve_gator:re-did everything again from scratch
[02:39] <ubuntu> hi is it possible to install ubuntu over a network?
[02:40] <ubuntu> I have a laptop with no a drive, no cd and some ijit has installed ME on it.
[02:40] <steve_gator> ceej: excellent good work
[02:40] <ceej> steve_gator: thanks :)
[02:40] <ubuntu> so the only thing I can do is install over a network or from a usb flash
[02:40] <ubuntu> any thoughts?
[02:41] <StDellis> try getting an external cd drive?
[02:41] <StDellis> they arent much
[02:41] <StDellis> Im sure someone you know has one
[02:41] <ubuntu> yeah but the problem is this thing is screwy and i'd have to use the usb to accessit
[02:41] <deeler> i like to modify the gdm wallpaper, where is it located ? i mean in what file / config file ?
[02:42] <ubuntu> I've been looking at the bootable USB stuff and thats promising but haven't gotten it workign jsut yet
[02:42] <ubuntu> might try the guest exe method
[02:42] <ubuntu> so is there a way to mount redhat and install it from the same mount?
[02:43] <ubuntu> I mean I want to stick unix on this machine and all the unix installs want to load from the cd
[02:43] <bla|patrick> hi
[02:43] <ubuntu> is there any way of local installing unix...?
[02:43] <bla|patrick> question regarding dialup dsl and password
[02:43] <ubuntu> I've aprtitioned the HD but thats a pain as its only a small 1.2gb hd
[02:44] <bla|patrick> have i replace "hide-password" in etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider with the password
[02:44] <ubuntu> so can't quite get the image on, just resizing the partitions now to see if I can fit the ubuntu on
[02:44] <ubuntu> would ned a bootmanager I guess whats good?
[02:44] <nalioth> ubuntu: does your machine BOOT from the usb stick?
[02:44] <bla|patrick> so that the pc is online?
[02:45] <ubuntu> nah can't get it to see the usb in the bios
[02:45] <SirKillalot> how do I disable prelink on ubuntu?
[02:45] <bla|patrick> nalioth, i wonder why but ati driver work now O_o
[02:45] <beetle> Hello! I heard about gcc cross-compiler that could compile windows application for linux.. I can't believe... Is it possible?
[02:45] <bla|patrick> :)
[02:45] <bla|patrick> i am happy now x-D
[02:45] <ubuntu> as a boot device I eman
[02:45] <SirKillalot> beetle, lol, why not?
[02:45] <SirKillalot> beetle, this should also work with gcc
[02:46] <nalioth> beetle: if the code is portable, yes
[02:46] <beetle> SirKillalot: hmm, i don't know.. absolulely different set of system calls
[02:46] <ubuntu> ubuntu with a boot manager ought to do the trick really. Can anyone reccomend a suitable bootmanager?
[02:46] <beetle> nalioth: what do you mean by portable code?
[02:46] <SirKillalot> beetle, as long as you dont use winapi and so on you can compile it without problems
[02:46] <brilliance> how to install mythtv
[02:46] <SirKillalot> beetle, you should try wine, it can translate winapi calls
[02:47] <SirKillalot> brilliance, google
[02:47] <bla|patrick> where does ubuntu store the dialup password?
[02:47] <beetle> SirKillalot: i don't use windows.. it must not use winforms as well, yes?
[02:47] <ubuntu> I heard there is a lindows that runs the win apps pretty well in linux
[02:47] <SirKillalot> beetle, wine
[02:47] <SirKillalot> its not windows
[02:47] <ubuntu> microslop like it enough to sue them anyhow...
[02:47] <bla|patrick> wine, cedega
[02:47] <beetle> SirKillalot: i just cat't imagine windows application that doesn't use winapi and winforms
[02:48] <nalioth> beetle: portable code will compile on any computer (C and C++ are among portable code)
[02:48] <brilliance> how to create a boot loader
[02:48] <beetle> i don't need any emulator, i just want to know about that feature :)
[02:48] <SirKillalot> beetle, #include<stdio.h> main(){printf("hello, I am a windows appn");}
[02:48] <SirKillalot> brilliance, create? code?
[02:48] <brilliance> code
[02:49] <beetle> SirKillalot: yes.. So application that doesn't use winforms, winapi can be compiled to Linux ELF executable file from Windows, yes?
[02:50] <SirKillalot> beetle, I don't really believe that there is a compiler translating all the windows api calls to linux..
[02:50] <SirKillalot> beetle, it could be compiled
[02:50] <SirKillalot> but, linux would have to know how to handle the api calls
[02:50] <SirKillalot> and that's wine's job :P
[02:52] <ubuntu> quit
[02:54] <oggah> how does your sources.list look like, what deb's does it contain?
[02:55] <steve_gator> does anyone know how too get my internal memorystick/sd card to work (LG laptop) ?
[02:55] <rel_> Is there any way to change the keyboard layout on my mac running ubuntu so that I don't have to press F12 to right click? (laptop with only one button)
[02:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell oggah about sources
[02:55] <bla|patrick> where does ubuntu store its dialup password for dsl connections?
[02:55] <black-whIsp> helle do  i need a new sourcce list  to install kubuntu on 5.10
[02:55] <bla|patrick> how can i make it stored permanantly
[02:55] <nalioth> rel_: system > preferences > keyboard > layout > macintosh
[02:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell black-whIsp about breezy
[02:56] <rel_> nalioth, thanks! I missed the last two parts.. ;)
[02:58] <maku> hi all :-)
[02:58] <rel_> Where do I check system temperature?
[02:58] <rel_> Also where do I look to see what processes I am currently running?
[02:59] <nalioth> rel_: in a terminal, type "top"
[02:59] <barongas> Hmmm, my pal who gave me my new disk says it's 200GB, BIOS says it's 136GB and df -h say it's 49Gb...
[02:59] <maku> i'm trying to patch a system call, as mentioned in the kernel module programming guide at tldp.org. But it also mentions something about sys_call_table not being exported anymore. what does this means?
[02:59] <bla|patrick> where does ubuntu store its dialup password for dsl connections?
[02:59] <bla|patrick> where does ubuntu store its dialup password for dsl connections?
[03:00] <bla|patrick> how can i make it stored permanantly
[03:00] <rel_> thanks again, nalioth :)
[03:00] <Boobek> hi
[03:00] <jesseman_>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[03:00] <piotrek> ____in which program  could i configurate kernel before compilate? I searched for xconfig ang g config but there is no such a program in apt :/
[03:01] <MarcN> barongas: the disk is likely partitioned into a number of sections.  The first being 49G
[03:01] <barongas> MarcN, I just ran fdisk before latest reboot creating only one primary partition with the default choices... Which would cover the entire drive, right?
[03:02] <breeze> hey
[03:02] <breeze> what is gst-register
[03:02] <brenda> hola
[03:02] <MarcN> barongas: you don't care about what may be on the disk, right?  You can carve it up anyway you like using fdisk /dev/WHATVER.
[03:02] <piotrek> can anybody HELP me?!
[03:02] <MarcN> barongas: is this for a new linux install or just adding more space?
[03:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell piotrek about repeat
[03:03] <black-whIsp> hmm.. i
[03:03] <barongas> MarcN, adding more space, eventually I suppose I'll scrap the old one and just copy the old files
[03:03] <ubuntu> hola
[03:04] <ubuntu> soy nueva por aqui
[03:04] <delmonico> hey wheres the right place to ask for packages to be included in dapper?
[03:04] <ubuntu> alguien espaol?
[03:04] <delmonico> bugzilla?
[03:04] <ubuntu> hola
[03:04] <ubuntu> hello
[03:04] <ubuntu> eeeooo
[03:05] <breeze> how can i configure my sound card?
[03:05] <barongas> MarcN, according to cfdisk it's only 52gb big
[03:05] <barongas> MarcN, but I'm pretty sure Bios said 136gb
[03:05] <StDellis> how do you install deb packages again?
[03:05] <StDellis> dkpd?
[03:06] <MarcN> barongas: and you are using cfdisk /dev/hdb (or hdc or sdc whatever) not /dev/hdb1
[03:06] <barongas> MarcN, hehe, oops :)
[03:06] <barongas> MarcN, thanks for the help, mate
[03:06] <StDellis> how do I install deb files again?
[03:07] <StDellis> wuts the command its sudo something -i filename I know
[03:07] <thrush-sleeping> dpkg -i
[03:07] <ompaul> sudo apt-get install foo :: dpkg -i foo.deb synaptic
[03:07] <MarcN> StDellis: get them directly via apt or synaptic.   Don't download manually unless you really, really know you have to.
[03:07] <StDellis> marcn I want to install limewire
[03:07] <StDellis> marcn I dont think apt or syn has it
[03:08] <breeze> HELP please!
[03:09] <delmonico> StDellis: see ubuntuguide.com
[03:09] <delmonico> ubuntuguide.org even
[03:09] <Steinbeck1> hmm
[03:10] <StDellis> delmonico wut am I looking for?
[03:10] <delmonico> StDellis: limewire?
[03:10] <yahya> i added something to my PATH env variable in .bash_profile but it's not set when I open a terminal
[03:11] <StDellis> delmonico ok
[03:11] <StDellis> delmonico I dont see wut this site is telling me though? ubuntuguide.org
[03:11] <breeze> how can i make RealPlayer10 my default player?
[03:12] <delmonico> StDellis: it tells you how to install limewire?
[03:12] <delmonico> #10 under add-on applications
[03:13] <Moggs> yahya: try the .bashrc instead
[03:16] <breeze> any help?
[03:16] <blueblood> ANyone using freeNX?
[03:16] <blueblood> I am having trouble get the key I need to install it
[03:17] <blueblood> apt-key add - don't do much
[03:17] <Seveas> blueblood, apt-get install freenx :)
[03:17] <Moggs> breeze: you mean in firefox? or nautilus?
[03:18] <blueblood> Seveas, says its a broken package
[03:18] <phreak> What lib/devs do you need for mplayer to get xv output support? With debian xlibs-dev was all you needed, but I didn't get xv-support now in ubuntu :/
[03:18] <blueblood> freenx: Beror: nxagent (>= 1.4.92+1.5.0) men det kommer inte att installeras
[03:18] <blueblood> E: Trasiga paket
[03:18] <blueblood> freenx depends on ncagent
[03:18] <blueblood> but it wont be installed
[03:18] <blueblood> e: Broken packag
[03:18] <Seveas> blueblood, grab it from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:18] <jesseman_> msg nickserv identify pearldrums
[03:18] <jesseman_> crap
[03:18] <phreak> haha
[03:18] <Seveas> jesseman_, /msg nickserv set password new_pass
[03:19] <yahya> Moggs: so the .bash_profile ins't run for every terminal?
[03:19] <jesseman_> Seveas: tnx, that was dumbof me  =0
[03:20] <barongas> If I just cp all my files from one hd to another and flag it to be bootable and remove the old one, will the new one boot then? Or do I need to change something in fstab maybe, and/or grub?
[03:20] <Seveas> jesseman_, sort of ;)
[03:20] <Moggs> yahya: no if I remember correctly it is read only when you first login
[03:21] <CosmoDad> barongas: if names are identical, I think it *should* boot, but not sure..
[03:21] <barongas> CosmoDad, names? As in /dev/bla or what?
[03:22] <Moggs> yahya: man bash has the details, but you need to know the difference between a login shell and a non-login shell... I don't
[03:22] <CosmoDad> barongas: and of course GRUB has to be in the MBR
[03:22] <CosmoDad> barongas: yeah and like kernel image names in /boot, etc...
[03:22] <blueblood> Seveas, how nice :D
[03:23] <CosmoDad> barongas: but if you make an exact copy that should be the case...
[03:23] <barongas> CosmoDad, hmmm, I might be forced to buy my linux-freak friend for dinner to make sure it runs smoothly
[03:23] <yahya> Moggs: yeah I was just reading that..
[03:23] <CosmoDad> barongas: you need to make sure your new HD will  be labelled hda as well if your old one was before as well
[03:23] <barongas> CosmoDad, Was thinking to just cp -rf / /mnt/hd2/
[03:23] <CosmoDad> barongas: can I be your linux-freak friend? :)
[03:24] <CosmoDad> barongas: I'd use rsync
[03:24] <CosmoDad> barongas: if you use the correct switches, it's IMHO better at mirroring a HD
[03:24] <barongas> CosmoDad,  Of course you can, I can only buy you dinner if you're in stockholm though :)
[03:24] <CookedGryphon> Hi, I want to speed up ubuntu's boot time and i've noticed one or two things like it says settign system clock twice, and it tried to connect to ntp.ubuntulinux.com to set the clock but fails every time so what's the point, how do i remove things like this>?
[03:24] <CosmoDad> barongas: I can be in Malm within 3h for 19 Euros :)
[03:25] <CosmoDad> barongas: airlines are cheap these days...
[03:25] <barongas> CosmoDad, I don't even know how to mirror
[03:25] <CosmoDad> barongas: rsync does that
[03:25] <CosmoDad> barongas: it just means: make an exact copy (like a mirror image) of one partition to another
[03:25] <barongas> CosmoDad, Ok, I'll look into that, you're welcome for dinner if you can give me a few days notice :)
[03:26] <CosmoDad> barongas: I'll remember that offer :)
[03:26] <barongas> CosmoDad, one is ext3 and the other reiserfs, will that be a problem?
[03:26] <CosmoDad> barongas: well you'll need to adapt fstab then
[03:26] <barongas> CosmoDad, that I can handle
[03:26] <CosmoDad> barongas: apart from that, I can't think of anything else..
[03:27] <barongas> CosmoDad, i'll just keep myself from smashing the old one until I know it works
[03:27] <zzyber> i have removed /dev/lp because vmware didnt like it. Instead i use /dev/parport0 and everything works fine in vmware. But in ubuntu i dont have a printer now. What can i do?
[03:27] <CosmoDad> barongas: I usually use the -rav switch to mirror HDs with rsync...
[03:28] <CosmoDad> barongas: and you might wanna exclude some directories with --exclude, but make sure you read in the rsync-manpage how excludes work, it's not intuitive
[03:28] <barongas> CosmoDad, why exclude?
[03:28] <shaji> Hi
[03:28] <shaji> can anyone please tell how to get the addon cd for latest ubuntu
[03:29] <Nermal> wtf
[03:29] <CosmoDad> barongas: well if you don't need that leave it alone
[03:29] <CosmoDad> barongas: like if your /tmp is tons of megabytes, no need to rsync that, it's getting killed after boot-up anyways
[03:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shaji about breezy
[03:30] <shaji> Seveas , how can i download the addon cd for 5.10
[03:30] <CosmoDad> barongas: another hint: If your kernel panics after rebooting, you might need to rebuild the initrd
[03:30] <shaji> wats breezy
[03:30] <CosmoDad> barongas: it's the file named initrd-<kernel> in /boot
[03:30] <barongas> CosmoDad, thanks for the help. I'll leave my computer to it's copying now. I'll write that down.
[03:31] <bla|patrick> where does ubuntu store its dialup password for dsl connections?
[03:31] <bla|patrick> how can i make it stored permanantly
[03:31] <CosmoDad> barongas: you can rebuild it like this: initrd -o <output initrd in /boot> -r <root device, like /dev/hda1> <kernelversion, like in /var/lib/>
[03:31] <CosmoDad> barongas: you're welcome
[03:32] <CosmoDad> bla|patrick: there's /etc/ppp/[pap|chap] -secrets, but I don't know if your dial-up tool uses those places..
[03:34] <pl_ice> hey, any ideas what's this? ARDUS, something with novell, my sql,  for loggin purposes, on ports 1115, 1116
[03:34] <Samnet> how can i install Nvidia drivers?
[03:35] <pl_ice> found it :/ bloody hell .... ARDUS Automatic Retrieval Deletion Update System Download
[03:35] <Samnet> and where can i find themes ?
[03:35] <bla|patrick> CosmoDad, my tool is pppoeconf
[03:35] <CosmoDad> !tell Samnet about nvidia
[03:36] <CosmoDad> bla|patrick: then it should work..
[03:36] <bla|patrick> it doesnt
[03:36] <bla|patrick> after rebooting the password is lost
[03:36] <CosmoDad> Samnet: art manager is a great tool for previewing, downloading, and installing new themes
[03:36] <bla|patrick> i always have to rerun pppoeconf
[03:36] <CosmoDad> Samnet: it contacts the gnome theme website directly..
[03:36] <Samnet> tnx
[03:36] <redondos> after (repeatedly) running 'sudo apt-get update' I get this warning, I'd like to know how to eliminate it: W: GPG error: http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[03:37] <guillermito> Hi I'va tried installing the pakage msttcorefots
[03:37] <guillermito> but I cant, does anybody know how to add M$ truetype fotns?
[03:37] <guillermito> i've tried installig a debian paakage, manually...
[03:37] <nickrud> guillermito, do you have the multiverse repository enabled?
[03:37] <Lord_Maynoth> Is there a dapper Beta program?
[03:37] <Samnet> Where can i find a "command Tool" ?
[03:37] <guillermito> Yes
[03:38] <Samnet> like RUN command. ...
[03:38] <nickrud> guillermito, then, what does apt-cache policy msttcorefonts tell you?
[03:38] <guillermito> let me see
[03:38] <redondos> fixed.
[03:38] <guillermito> I do not remember
[03:38] <bla|patrick> CosmoDad, any idea why its not stored?
[03:38] <nickrud> guillermito, then, you're not on the ubuntu box?
[03:38] <mahangu> i installed xfe, but it wotn show up in sessions
[03:39] <CosmoDad> bla|patrick: nope, try putting it in manually
[03:39] <mahangu> do i have to edit .xsessions manually?
[03:39] <bla|patrick> how do i edit pap-secrets?
[03:39] <bla|patrick> CosmoDad, ?
[03:40] <nickrud> guillermito, the apt-cache policy command above should show a version available like so: 990 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages
[03:41] <CosmoDad> bla|patrick: plain editor
[03:41] <rizla> hi
[03:41] <rizla> does anybody know how to send files from linux to nokia phone?
[03:41] <guillermito> nickrud
[03:41] <guillermito> Oh
[03:41] <nickrud> guillermito
[03:42] <CosmoDad> bla|patrick: syntax is like this:provider         *            passwords
[03:42] <guillermito> I have in sorcers.list
[03:42] <guillermito> main restricted universe multiverse
[03:42] <nalioth> nickrud: you exist in the now.
[03:42] <CosmoDad> bla|patrick: where provider must be in the peers/ subdirectory -- I hope pppoeconf did that, otherwise I don't know
[03:42] <guillermito> is that the same than multiverse?
[03:43] <nickrud> guillermito, but what does apt-cache policy say? (if multiverse is not enabled in the right place, you may not see it all)
[03:43] <nickrud> nalioth, sometimes I do achieve time ;)
[03:43] <Mabus06> how come I can't change my screen resolution?
[03:43] <cyrre> !sources.list
[03:43] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:44] <selinium> Mabus06, Because you aren't using the right driver, probably
[03:44] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone know if there is a dapper drake beta??
[03:44] <eva_> hi
[03:44] <bla|patrick> CosmoDad, here its userid * passwd
[03:44] <eva_> wie gehts
[03:45] <CosmoDad> bla|patrick: ah yeah sorry it is
[03:45] <bla|patrick> in peers the file dsl-provider is there
[03:45] <CosmoDad> bla|patrick: I was confusing it, sorry, you're totally right
[03:45] <bla|patrick> and in pap-secrets the pass is listed
[03:45] <bla|patrick> weired
[03:45] <CosmoDad> bla|patrick: try adding it to chap-secrets too
[03:45] <bla|patrick> where can i find that?
[03:45] <CosmoDad> bla|patrick: some providers use chap, some pap, so add your password to both and you should be fine
[03:46] <CosmoDad> bla|patrick: same place, if the file is not there, add it and chmod equally to pap-secrets
[03:46] <CosmoDad> bla|patrick: both secrets should be 600
[03:46] <baaaan> I'm a little confused as how to get Ubuntu installed. I currently have a dual boot setup with XP and SuSE. I want to replace my SuSE setup with Ubuntu. Once I get into the partitioner in the installer, I tell it to use the ext3 filesystem on my Linux partition and to format it. It then tells me that I haven't defined a root filesystem. What does this mean? What am I doing wrong?
[03:46] <mahangu> baaaan: set the mount point on that ext3
[03:47] <mahangu> it should be /
[03:47] <guillermito> nickrud: what soud apt-cache policy should tell me
[03:47] <mahangu> as in root
[03:47] <baaaan> mahangu: OK, thanks.
[03:47] <mahangu> baaaan: np, good luck
[03:47] <mahangu> the installer is sweet :)
[03:47] <bla|patrick> CosmoDad, in chap the entry is there
[03:47] <bla|patrick> too
[03:47] <nickrud> guillermito, it tells you some details about a package
[03:47] <bla|patrick> O_o
[03:47] <mahangu> baaaan: breezy, correct?
[03:47] <nickrud> 's availability, and installation status
[03:47] <CosmoDad> bla|patrick: so if it's in both (correctly) and file permissions are set to 600, you should be ready to go
[03:48] <bla|patrick> CosmoDad, the command doing this is chmod *file* 600
[03:48] <bla|patrick> isnt it?
[03:48] <guillermito> apt-cache policy msttcorefonts
[03:48] <nickrud> guillermito, yes
[03:48] <guillermito> guillermito@maesita:~$ apt-cache policy msttcorefonts
[03:48] <guillermito> msttcorefonts:
[03:48] <guillermito>   Instalados: 1.2
[03:48] <guillermito>   Candidato: 1.2
[03:48] <guillermito>   Tabla de versin:
[03:48] <guillermito>  *** 1.2 0
[03:48] <guillermito>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[03:48] <mahangu> guillermito: whoa, pastebin!
[03:48] <mahangu> !pastebin
[03:48] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:48] <nickrud> guillermito, don't flood!
[03:48] <hachre> black-whIsp: chmod 600 file
[03:49] <nickrud> guillermito, and, that output means you don't have multiverse enabled properly. Paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin, and give me the link
[03:49] <black-whIsp> hachre: ???what
[03:49] <CosmoDad> bla|patrick: from my point of view, it's chmod 600 *file*
[03:49] <guillermito> ok, sorry because of the flood
[03:49] <CosmoDad> bla|patrick: sudo chmod 600 /etc/ppp/*-secrets
[03:50] <mahangu> nickrud: brb
[03:50] <bla|patrick> CosmoDad, ok
[03:50] <bla|patrick> :)
[03:50] <hachre> black-whIsp, the command to chmod stuff is chmod mode files
[03:51] <hachre> black-whIsp, not chmod files mode
[03:51] <black-whIsp> hachre: thanks
[03:51] <mahangu> is there a limit to the number of window managers i can have?
[03:51] <mahangu> i have 7 installed
[03:51] <mahangu> and now xfce wont show up under sessions
[03:51] <bla|patrick> hachre, thx :)
[03:51] <hachre> ;)
[03:52] <bla|patrick> how can i veryfy the mode in console?
[03:52] <guillermito> nickrud: http://pastebin.com/430321 there is my sources.list
[03:52] <cyphase> which wireless card would you guys recommend for ubuntu?
[03:53] <mahangu> cyphase, heh, hello! :) i reccomend ipw series
[03:53] <mahangu> for laptops at least
[03:53] <mahangu> ubuntu does _great_ with them
[03:53] <cyphase> i know..
[03:53] <cyphase> but i meant desktops :)
[03:53] <nickrud> guillermito, every line that has universe on it, add multiverse, save the file, and sudo apt-get update. You should see msttcorefonts after that
[03:54] <cyrre> I'm not able to download Eterm with apt-get.. should I add some mirror or what?
[03:54] <guillermito> ok
[03:54] <hachre> bla|patrick, ls -l file
[03:54] <hachre> bla|patrick, then look at the r-x---r-x stuff
[03:54] <nickrud> guillermito, you missed the two most important places :)
[03:54] <CosmoDad> cyphase: it's the chipset that's important... I have an ipw2200 and I'm doing fine with it, atheros (madwifi) is supposed to be good as well
[03:54] <hachre> bla|patrick, first 3 things are the rights for the owner r/w/x, second is for group, third is for everyone
[03:55] <nickrud> cyrre, I see it in universe, eterm
[03:55] <CosmoDad> cyphase: though last time I had to use a CVS madwifi version for ad-hoc mode which crashed my machine after 5sec, but it's been a couple of month since then
[03:55] <bla|patrick> hachre, its -rx------ now
[03:55] <bla|patrick> is that 600?
[03:55] <hachre> bla|patrick, yeah i think so, i dont like the octal values
[03:55] <hachre> bla|patrick, you can also use chmod u=rx file for example to set modes
[03:56] <hachre> bla|patrick, i like that more
[03:56] <bla|patrick> kde doesnt display the numbers
[03:56] <CosmoDad> bla|patrick: it's correct
[03:56] <bla|patrick> at least i havent found out how to make konqueror to do it
[03:56] <bla|patrick> CosmoDad, :)
[03:56] <bla|patrick> someone using konqueror here?
[03:56] <hachre> as webbrowser?
[03:56] <bla|patrick> it doesnt display in media:/ the /media- mountpoints
[03:56] <guillermito> nickrud: oh thanks a loott I could do it, Thanks
[03:57] <bla|patrick> hachre, filebrowser
[03:57] <hachre> i do
[03:57] <nickrud> guillermito, yw
[03:57] <nickrud> bla|patrick, 600 is -rw----------
[03:57] <guillermito> I dont't understand why they are not even uncoment by delfault
[03:57] <bla|patrick> nickrud, kk lost some ---
[03:58] <nickrud> bla|patrick, I just hit it a bunch of times :)
[03:58] <nickrud> bla|patrick, the w (write is what counts)
[03:58] <bla|patrick> ehe
[03:58] <bla|patrick> hehe
[03:58] <bla|patrick> nickrud, thx :)
[03:58] <bla|patrick> hachre, do u know where to find the settings, that controls what is displayed in "media:/
[03:58] <bla|patrick> "
[03:59] <snoopy> I would like to know if there is a simple way how to add a .xkb keyboard map to Ubuntu
[04:00] <hachre> bla|patrick, no clue
[04:00] <bla|patrick> :/
[04:00] <guillermito> Well I'm restarting X. Thanks again nickrud
[04:00] <nickrud> guillermito, no need to restart X, they should simply show up :)
[04:01] <guillermito> what?
[04:01] <guillermito> oh ok I get a log
[04:01] <cyphase> why does the media love to say "******-based"
[04:01] <cyphase> lol
[04:01] <guillermito> :) bye bye guys
[04:01] <aftertaf> c6s deb5an r6x
[04:02] <aftertaf> oops
[04:02] <aftertaf> cos debian rox
[04:02] <nickrud> see you, guillermito
[04:02] <fletch33> morning
[04:03] <fletch33> anyone here ever tried to rconnect to a wireless print server for a hp printe
[04:03] <fletch33> i need it for work and i dont knoe where to start
[04:12] <dani_> algun espaol por ahi?
[04:14] <nalioth> !es
[04:14] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:17] <markom> Hi guys just a quick question. I was able to install ubuntu server and I do have the command line prompt and am able to get online. However I kind of want a desktop to play around with as well (this is a test box) Wondering what I would need to type in the command line to get a desktop as well after a server install?
[04:18] <Nermal> apt-get install gnome ? :|
[04:18] <nickrud> markom, any one of ubuntu-desktop (gnome) kubuntu-desktop (kde) or xubuntu-desktop (xfce)
[04:19] <cyrre> how to install eterm? i can't find it with apt-get
[04:19] <markom> Which one is the default if you were to start frmo scratch?
[04:19] <hachre> markom, ubuntu-desktop
[04:20] <markom> Thank you for your time guys. I knew it was something like that but I would rather come here and ask first.
[04:20] <nickrud> cyrre, it is in the universe repository, you may need to enable it
[04:20] <cyrre> how? :|
[04:21] <nickrud> !tell cyrre about repos
[04:22] <markom> This is a very silly new user question but if you installed warty a year ago and did not change the source list does your system then become breezy?
[04:23] <nickrud> markom, not silly at all. No, it won't, until you replace all references in /etc/apt/sources.list from warty to breezy.
[04:23] <pingoo> hi guys- i have a question about java compiler. i somehow sucessfully installed javac (jdk) on my ubuntu system, but when i try to run the class files with that are using Swing it says: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit- any ideas what's wrong? i googled it, but didn't find anything useful actually- please help :$
[04:25] <markom> I have a debian machine I also run as a server I figured that I would run this as a server and desktop media machine. Go through the ISPconfig setup again as well as run Cedega for learning reasons.
[04:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pingoo about multijava
[04:27] <N6REJ> I'm having a problem with samba... I just downloaded and installed the packages as recommended in the how-to and I got this error... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4564
[04:27] <pingoo> i have 2 alternatives which provide 'java': 1 /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0 and the 2nd (default /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[04:28] <phk_> hi
[04:28] <aet> is there a way to install ubuntu from a running system?
[04:29] <StyXman> hi all
[04:29] <aet> id hate to install from cd as im using lvm
[04:29] <Ubuntu-User> Wussup
[04:29] <roy_> hey, how do I delete a bunch of files in the command prompt?
[04:29] <Ubuntu-User> i need some help, could anybody assist me please?
[04:29] <StyXman> which is the recommmended c/c++ for breezy? 3.4 or 4.0?
[04:29] <markom> rm <file name>
[04:29] <aet> roy_: rm
[04:30] <StyXman> roy_: rm -i <file list>
[04:30] <dr_willis> roy_,  with a 'regular expression' or just list all the files.
[04:30] <gearry> anyone know how to specify what wep key is being used with NetworkManager?
[04:30] <dr_willis> Now is when we all suggest you google for a bash tutorial.
[04:30] <Ubuntu-User> anybody uses 3rddesk?
[04:30] <markom> rm -r <filename> If you know what is there and want to take a risk.
[04:30] <hachre> StyXman, 4
[04:30] <StyXman> hachre: hmm, ok. so, I can safely delete 3.4...
[04:31] <hachre> StyXman, I guess so
[04:31] <roy_> ok, now how do I delete a directory?
[04:31] <phk_> i have a problem, perhaps someone else run into it, too. today i upgrade from hoary to breezy (with aptitude) and everything seems fine, except of networking. my broadcom ethernetcard comes up (with TG3) but DHCP does not work. when i boot with the old hoary kernel 2.6.10, it works very good. ideas? is it a know bug already?
[04:31] <linden> hi, knows anyone something about packages for the CERN-root packages?
[04:31] <hachre> StyXman, but I cant make promises :)
[04:31] <roy_> *how do I delete a directory in the command prompt?
[04:31] <nickrud> pingoo, I think you need to add some java path stuff to override those alternatives
[04:31] <phk_> roy: rm -r
[04:31] <hachre> roy_, rm -R dir
[04:31] <roy_> thanks, everyone!
[04:31] <markom> man rm
[04:32] <thomerz> hi,is it possible to have a history in gnome-terminal, if i close and reopen it?
[04:32] <phk_> if someone has any ideas, i would really appreciate it...
[04:32] <pingoo> nickrud, thank you for info.. hum.. will try to find out what to add to $PATH, or maybe just create ls from a directory already in $PATH
[04:32] <StyXman> hachre: k, tx
[04:32] <filippo> pingoo, probably you need install sun java package
[04:32] <dr_willis> phk_,  id seen some issue where the gateway never got set right. I had to manuually set it each time i rebooted. :(
[04:33] <nickrud> pingoo, I'm not sure either, I don't program in java, but I do know it's called JAVAPATH
[04:33] <Ubuntu-User> so anybody uses 3ddesk ?
[04:33] <dr_willis> Ubuntu-User,  you mean that fancy-3d-desktop-switcher application?
[04:33] <Ubuntu-User> yeah
[04:33] <Ubuntu-User> dr_willis i downloaded it but it doesnt work :(
[04:33] <phk_> dr_willis: this cannot be my problem, because DHCPDISCOVER does not even give me an IP Adress...
[04:34] <dr_willis> Ubuntu-User,  read its docs/homepage.. its a bit of an annoyance.. and really isent that usefull...
[04:34] <pingoo> filippo, i have suns java installed- jdk and jre!
[04:34] <dr_willis> phk_,  Ick. :( no clue then.
[04:34] <Aleks> Hi
[04:34] <pingoo> nickrud, thanks for the info.. will try to find out something important
[04:34] <Ubuntu-User> dr_willis
[04:34] <Ubuntu-User> ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
[04:34] <Ubuntu-User> 3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting.
[04:34] <Aleks> Where can I edit the Grup conf...???
[04:34] <Ubuntu-User> and it sais try to run manually..
[04:34] <Ubuntu-User> can you help?
[04:35] <dr_willis> Ubuntu-User,  that looks like you dont have your X config set up with  the 3d support...
[04:35] <dr_willis> "--->  Please configure hardware acceleration"
[04:35] <dr_willis> bbl
[04:35] <N6REJ> will someone please help me with samba?
[04:36] <Aleks> some who know  Where can I edit the Grup conf...???
[04:36] <Aleks> n6rej, just...
[04:36] <phk_> dr_willis: thankx. i will repost the message, perhaps someone else knows...
[04:36] <Ubuntu-User> dr_willis okay but i didnt understand a thing youve said :p
[04:37] <Aleks> n6rej, system -> Admin... -> shared folders
[04:37] <N6REJ> aleks: look here.. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4564
[04:37] <dr_willis> Ubuntu-User,  You X has no 3d support... whats your video card...
[04:38] <N6REJ> aleks: didn't even install properly
[04:38] <Ubuntu-User> GeForce 4
[04:38] <Ubuntu-User> i just upgraded to Breeze
[04:38] <Aleks> n6rej, if you go at the menu like i said..., you can install samba there
[04:39] <dr_willis> Ubuntu-User,  then install the nvidia binarie drivers  - folowing the "Binary Driver howto/wiki"
[04:39] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[04:39] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:39] <Ubuntu-User> thanks ;)
[04:39] <Aleks> n6rej..., or., witch ubuntu version do you have? 5,10 (Breezy) ?
[04:39] <N6REJ> aleks: ok, I'll try again.... should I remove what I just installed?
[04:39] <N6REJ> aleks: yes
[04:39] <Aleks> n6rej.., wait 2 sec
[04:39] <N6REJ> aleks: ok
[04:40] <Aleks> n6rej, do it work..?
[04:40] <Aleks> Any one here who know who file grub uses....???
[04:40] <N6REJ> aleks: from the desktop? like you said?
[04:40] <N6REJ> aleks: locate grub.conf
[04:41] <N6REJ> actually, sudo locate grub.conf
[04:41] <Aleks> :)
[04:41] <Ubuntu-User> dr_willis man ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:41] <Ubuntu-User> sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found
[04:41] <simbad> Hello. Is there a way to tell ubuntu discovering networks in the background during bootup and to disable ntpdate?
[04:42] <mistercoo> hi all
[04:42] <trappist> simbad: update-rc.d
[04:42] <Aleks> n6rej, do not work:S
[04:42] <black-whIsp> how do i change permisons on af folder?
[04:42] <trappist> black-whIsp: chmod
[04:42] <Aleks> n6rej, nothing happneds..
[04:42] <N6REJ> aleks: ok hang on.
[04:42] <simbad> trappist: thanks.
[04:42] <N6REJ> aleks: sudo updatedb
[04:43] <N6REJ> aleks: sudo locate grub.conf
[04:43] <black-whIsp> trappist thx.  :D
[04:43] <mistercoo> i am a newbie with linux i need some help to install hardware
[04:43] <Aleks> n6rej, sorry.., i closed wrong window:P
[04:43] <Aleks> n6rej, can you say it once?
[04:44] <black-whIsp> trappist: what would the command look like if i should give the normal  user read and write  permissons for a folder?
[04:44] <N6REJ> aleks: sudo updatedb && locate grub.conf
[04:44] <Aleks> n6rej, done, but nothing ..
[04:44] <N6REJ> k, let me look
[04:44] <trappist> black-whIsp: chmod u+rw foldername
[04:44] <Aleks> n6rej, do you know the location...?
[04:44] <trappist> black-whIsp: if by 'normal user' you mean owner
[04:44] <N6REJ> aleks: looking now.
[04:44] <trappist> black-whIsp: if you need to change the owner, see chown
[04:45] <Aleks> n6rej: :)
[04:45] <pulaski> hello
[04:45] <N6REJ> aleks: if you do sudo locate grub do you get a long list of files?
[04:46] <Aleks> 2sec
[04:46] <Aleks> yes :)
[04:46] <Dangermouse> if i use apt-get to remove xsane for example, it says it will remove ubuntu-desktop too. Is this right and what would I lose with ubuntu-desktop?
[04:46] <Aleks> n6rej, yes
[04:46] <baaaan2> Can anyone reccomend a decent FTP client for Linux?
[04:46] <N6REJ> aleks: OK, thats good.  I'm not sure which one though let me look
[04:46] <Aleks> n6rej, now i remebmer :) menu.lst
[04:46] <Dangermouse> I have 5.10 with xubuntu-desktop
[04:46] <Aleks> n6rej, tanks a lot
[04:47] <N6REJ> aleks: yw
[04:47] <trappist> Dangermouse: dpkg -L ubuntu-desktop
[04:47] <Dangermouse> trappist, that lists what is in that package right?
[04:47] <Aleks> n6rej, i must go now..., be back in some days, i shall send in my motherboard to service
[04:47] <falcon_> hi, I need repository for ubuntu with tomcat 5 available
[04:47] <N6REJ> gl
[04:48] <nickrud> Dangermouse, nothing that ubuntu-desktop will go away; when you update to dapper, you may not get all the new stuff that dapper's ubuntu-desktop depends on
[04:48] <trappist> Dangermouse: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage whose whole purpose is to have dependencies so you can install a ton of packages with one command.  if you uninstall xsane you lose the metapackage and nothing else.  so basically you lose nothing.
[04:48] <trappist> Dangermouse: yes.
[04:48] <Dangermouse> ah right, so its safe to remove it
[04:48] <trappist> yes
[04:49] <Dangermouse> thanks
[04:49] <DexterF> hi
[04:50] <Dangermouse> same with ubuntu-standard?
[04:50] <DexterF> friend of mine has a pretty old box, AMD K6-2/450MHz, 128MB RAM, Voodoo Banshee. Would Ubuntu be usable on that?
[04:50] <hachre> hardly
[04:50] <nickrud> DexterF, xubuntu could be, but not ubuntu.
[04:51] <hachre> yes xubuntu
[04:51] <Secreth`X> What is the command in a terminal to 'copy' a thing (eg example.pl) to a map (eg blub/)?
[04:51] <Dangermouse> i have xubuntu on a P3 733 with 192mbram, it's great
[04:51] <trappist> Secreth`X: cp is to copy
[04:51] <nickrud> DexterF, if he can stuff a lot more memory in, he could run ubuntu 'ok'
[04:51] <Secreth`X> thanks trappist
[04:51] <Secreth`X> I couldnt remember it :)
[04:51] <trappist> Secreth`X: you're copying a 'file' to a 'directory'
[04:51] <phk_> i have a problem, perhaps someone else run into it, too. today i upgrade from hoary to breezy (with aptitude) and everything seems fine, except of networking. my broadcom ethernetcard comes up (with TG3) but DHCP does not work. when i boot with the old hoary kernel 2.6.10, it works very good. ideas? is it a know bug already?
[04:51] <DexterF> nickrud: a lot like 256 or more like 512?
[04:52] <nickrud> DexterF, I ran a celeron 466 with 256, and it just got too painful. So, 512, more if possible
[04:52] <Secreth`X> k now lets test it :)
[04:53] <corey> Is there a web design room on freenode?
[04:53] <Dangermouse> #web
[04:53] <DexterF> hmm. ok, 466-celeron operates on a 66MHz FSB, painfully slow RAM interface plus only 64k L2 cache which requires a lot of mem ops. ok, will see. (I don't build anything below 1gig these days, but broke is broke :) )
[04:54] <corey> thanks... wierd, I Just did a channel search for "web" and nothing came up.
[04:54] <occy> crimsun, Since nuking my prefs things seem stable with Firefox.
[04:54] <Jemt> greetings. I want to install Eclipse with support for HTML, JavaScript, CSS, PHP, MySQL. Which packages do I need ?
[04:54] <occy> err
[04:55] <occy> my gnome prefs
[04:55] <occy> I think they were all pre- Gnome 2.8
[04:55] <occy> heh
[04:55] <gearry> anybody know how to set key index using NetManager?
[04:56] <pulaski> I'm an ubuntu newbie using synaptic.  I'm trying to include the appropriate repsoitories to get the java-package.
[04:56] <erick0198> heloo
[04:56] <nickrud> DexterF, the real bottleneck was swapping, with ubuntu you hit 256 almost immediately
[04:56] <erick0198> yvonne???
[04:56] <Secreth`X> trappist, thanks, it worked. Do you know a way to see hidden files?
[04:56] <pulaski> multiverse and community supported universe
[04:56] <soundray> !tell pulaski about java
[04:57] <soundray> pulaski, pls read the message from ubotu.
[04:57] <trappist> Secreth`X: ls -A
[04:57] <erick0198> java has it's faults
[04:57] <soundray> erick0198, so does your apostrophe setting.
[04:57] <Secreth`X> trappist, Thanks but do you know a way to do it in the Filesystem?
[04:57] <soundray> erick0198, scnr.
[04:57] <pulaski> thank you soundray
[04:58] <erick0198> i'am not such a good speller
[04:58] <erick0198> but i know a thing or two about java scripts
[04:58] <trappist> Secreth`X: what do you mean
[04:59] <Secreth`X> Erm
[04:59] <sewoyl> bonjour
[04:59] <soundray> erick0198, javascript or Java programs?
[04:59] <sewoyl> oops hello wrong channel :p
[04:59] <Secreth`X> Good question, I dont know how to explqin\
[04:59] <Secreth`X> plain
[04:59] <erick0198> i guess you can say java programs
[04:59] <erick0198> the programs need scripts to run though
[05:00] <Secreth`X> trappist, places > Home
[05:00] <soundray> erick0198, massive potential for confusion here...
[05:00] <sewoyl> javascript is not java at all
[05:00] <Secreth`X> trappist, Thats what I mean
[05:00] <corey> Is there anyway to get the dictionary panal applet to function as a thesaurus as well?
[05:00] <trappist> Secreth`X: if you're talking about something gnome-specific, I don't know
[05:00] <simbad> Is there a "more" global way to set the PATH-Variable except /etc/profile (This only works for shells, but xemacs executed directly by fvwm doesnt seems to know about this)
[05:00] <Secreth`X> trappist, I dont know if it is gnome-specific
[05:00] <erick0198> first of all i know that javascript is not java but without a javascript there is no java
[05:01] <Jemt> greetings. I want to install Eclipse with support for HTML, JavaScript, CSS, PHP, MySQL. Which packages do I need ?
[05:01] <soundray> erick0198, I routinely run Java programs with no javascript involvement at all.
[05:01] <erick0198> how do you do that?
[05:01] <Secreth`X> Jemt, apache, php, mysql
[05:01] <Absenth> I don't suppose anyone knows which Kernel version would be best for a VMWare install of Ubuntu?
[05:01] <steigweis> NVIDIA driver problem on Breezy: i want to run the latest NVIDIA driver and on the beginning of the install it says, that it wants to compile the cernel module.. is that necessary and risky? i have never done that before...
[05:02] <Jemt> Secreth`X: I want to install eclipse - not the servers. I have already installed those
[05:02] <DexterF> does gnome take so much ram when only loaded?
[05:02] <Secreth`X> Jemt, k, sorry dude!
[05:02] <soundray> erick0198, for example ImageJ: java ij.ImageJ
[05:02] <Nermal> takes a reasonable amount yes
[05:03] <Jemt> Secreth`X: :)
[05:03] <erick0198> o.k i thought about something else
[05:03] <erick0198> how many of you guys here create websites
[05:03] <soundray> erick0198, we're getting too far OT.
[05:03] <steigweis> erick0198: about 27
[05:04] <erick0198> how is it too far out?
[05:04] <erick0198> how much do you guys regularly charge?
[05:04] <soundray> erick0198, this channel is about Ubuntu support, not web site or Java development.
[05:04] <soundray> erick0198, you may want to ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:05] <erick0198> i know but i was looking for soe advice
[05:05] <trappist> Absenth: any kernel is fine for vmware, but newer 2.6 kernels won't work with the kernel modules vmware ships with - you have to get others
[05:05] <Absenth> erick0198,  try #web
[05:05] <ZzeCoOl> Hello can someone tell me how can i completely uninstall an application (even config files) using dpkg  ?
[05:05] <erick0198> not good enough.
[05:05] <Secreth`X> Ok, anyone know how to see hidden files in a folder? (And then I dont mean ls -A)
[05:05] <erick0198> i already tried that
[05:05] <Absenth> trappist,  thanks,  I suppose I should stick with the stock Breezy kernel then.
[05:06] <trappist> Absenth: even that kernel might be too new
[05:06] <trappist> I think it is
[05:06] <Absenth> trappist,  seems to be working alright for me atm :)
[05:06] <trappist> cool
[05:06] <soundray> erick0198, you've come to the wrong forum again, then.
[05:06] <soundray> ZzeCoOl, man dpkg, look for --purge
[05:06] <trappist> erick0198: I've never even seen a java app that needed javascripts to run.
[05:06] <Absenth> trappist,  although I may not have installed the vmware tools....
[05:06] <erick0198> >_<
[05:07] <erick0198> i created some of my own
[05:07] <queuetue> I've installed a "server" install of ubuntu - what is the minimum  need to add to get usb hotplug working?  (So I can plug in a flashdrive and have it automount?)
[05:07] <ZzeCoOl> soundray:  purge deletes the install application or the .deb file?
[05:07] <queuetue> ubuntu *breezy*...
[05:07] <soundray> ZzeCoOl, application and config files, not the deb.
[05:07] <ZzeCoOl> ok ty
[05:10] <joh> queuetue: that's handled by HAL as far as I know.
[05:10] <topmate> this is my first gnome distro, so be gentle, but is it possible to set up the virtual desktops to change when you move the mouse scroll wheel on the background?
[05:10] <erick0198> goodbye you freaking nerds!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:11] <trappist> did erick0198 have a question?
[05:11] <erick0198> bastards
[05:11] <Dasnipa`> hey i prefer geek as opposed to nerd
[05:11] <ZzeCoOl> Hello can someone tell me how can i completely uninstall an application (even config files) using dpkg  ?
[05:11] <queuetue> joh: I'm not sure what that means  have to do ...
[05:11] <soundray> trappist, no, just an urge to spill some venom.
[05:11] <joh> ZzeCoOl: apt-get --purge remove
[05:11] <trappist> sounds about right
[05:12] <joh> queuetue: it's not automatically mounted on the server install?
[05:12] <soundray> ZzeCoOl, what is wrong with reading the dpkg manpage, like I recommended?
[05:12] <trappist> dpkg -r --purge
[05:12] <trappist> I mean, what soundray said
[05:13] <queuetue> joh not on *this* server install...
[05:13] <ZzeCoOl> soundray: can understand how to use it
[05:13] <ZzeCoOl>  dpkg -r|--remove | -P|--purge <package name> ... | -a|--pending
[05:13] <Secreth`X> Ok, anyone know how to see hidden files in a folder? (And then I dont mean ls -A)
[05:13] <ZzeCoOl> here it is
[05:14] <ZzeCoOl> its doesnt wotk for me
[05:14] <ZzeCoOl> work*
[05:14] <sazwerx> Secreth`X, in Nautilus? try CTRL+H
[05:14] <ZzeCoOl> joh: after apt get any other step?
[05:14] <Secreth`X> sazwerx, THANKS!
[05:15] <ZzeCoOl> joh:  let say i have toto.deb installed
[05:15] <sazwerx> Secreth`X, mo problemmo, bro.. ^^
[05:15] <ZzeCoOl> joh:  how can i completely remove this one
[05:15] <trappist> Secreth`X: in the future, it's helpful if you can tell us what you're using.  ctrl-h is nautilus-specific, for example.
[05:15] <Secreth`X> trappist, But i dont know what it was...
[05:15] <queuetue> I've installed a "server" install of ubuntu breezy - what is the minimum  need to add to get usb hotplug working?  (So I can plug in a flashdrive and have it automount?)
[05:16] <Secreth`X> trappist, when you said gnome-specific I tought it was gnome, but now it was nautilus specific..
[05:16] <simbad> Ok, I edit he PATH-line in /etc/profile but it has no effect for any user. Which file do I have to edit to be sure, every program gets this set PATH?
[05:16] <joh> ZzeCoOl: apt-get --purge remove <name of package>
[05:16] <joh> ZzeCoOl: man apt-get
[05:16] <trappist> Secreth`X: nautilus is gnome's file manager
[05:17] <eddy> is it possible to watch DRM'd wmv's, such as this one in Ubuntu? (see http://www.degrootstebelg.be/dgb_master/100belgen/dgb_docu_merckx/index.html )
[05:17] <sazwerx> Secreth`X, if u wanna know what was it, click the menu HELP->ABOUT then u'll find out what it was
[05:17] <Secreth`X> trappist, sazwerx, thanks both!
[05:17] <ZzeCoOl> joh ty
[05:17] <trappist> simbad: if it's in /etc/profile (and you've done ". /etc/profile") it's an environment variable which most programs should respect.  if the program doesn't, you need something specific to that program.
[05:19] <simbad> trappist: ok, I will try to find out what I did wrong.
[05:19] <trappist> simbad: do '. /etc/profile'
[05:19] <trappist> simbad: putting it into the file isn't enough.  it needs to be sourced.
[05:20] <Obi-1> i finally broke down the root loggin problem
[05:20] <dorto> i am asked to specify the path where realplayer is downloaded
[05:20] <Obi-1> to all those who care
[05:20] <dorto> by default, /root is present
[05:20] <orlando> hola
[05:20] <dorto> if i just press 'forward' i get file not found error
[05:20] <dorto> how to install realplayer?
[05:21] <Obi-1> change in the /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[05:21] <simbad> trappist: hmmm, but where is the inital_Path-Value set?
[05:21] <Obi-1> allowrootaccess=true
[05:21] <trappist> simbad: the what?
[05:21] <Obi-1> and it allorw you to loggin as root
[05:21] <orlando> hello dorto
[05:21] <trappist> simbad: the PATH variable is manipulated all over the place.  to add to it, do export PATH=$PATH:/new/path
[05:22] <dorto> hi orlando
[05:22] <orlando> where are you from ?
[05:22] <simbad> trappist: thx
[05:22] <dorto> india, why?
[05:22] <orlando> cool.
[05:22] <orlando> i am from colombia..
[05:22] <dorto> i see
[05:22] <orlando> i have a question please..
[05:22] <trappist> I was gonna guess florida
[05:23] <Secreth`X> Where are you from, trappist? :)
[05:23] <trappist> TX
[05:23] <Secreth`X> ? :P
[05:23] <orlando> i can install mysql 5 in ubuntu ?? ...
[05:23] <orlando> how ??
[05:23] <orlando> the repository is in 4.1
[05:23] <Secreth`X> trappist, do you mean Texas or what?
[05:24] <orlando> hello ?
[05:24] <dorto> orlando:  mysql 5.0 may not be available for ubuntu if you can't find it in any of the repositories
[05:24] <trappist> orlando: I don't know if there's a mysql 5.0 package in breezy repositories
[05:25] <orlando> is not..
[05:25] <orlando> no there..
[05:25] <orlando> but.. i download the 5.0 from the page ..
[05:26] <orlando> the mysql 5.tar.gz..  ??
[05:26] <Delvien> what is the command to start KXdocker?
[05:26] <Delvien> i know this is "gnome " chat sorry , #kubuntu hardly ever answers
[05:27] <dorto> where does synaptic package manager store downloaded files while installing?
[05:27] <trappist> dorto: /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:28] <dorto> thx
[05:28] <nillas> Any swedish people in here? I need help with a swedish problem (tagenbordsuppsttning)
[05:28] <dorto> i still get the same error: "The file /var/cache/apt/archives/rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm does not exist,"
[05:29] <corin_777> whats the best command-line irc client?
[05:29] <trappist> dorto: oh, that.  the realplayer package is a bootstrap that downloads from realplayer and installs from there.  I don't know where that package downloads the file to.
[05:29] <trappist> corin_777: irssi!
[05:29] <dorto> corin_777: try irssi
[05:29] <Absenth> anyone know the command to sync time to an NTP server in ubuntu?
[05:29] <corin_777> i thought so
[05:29] <trappist> Absenth: ntpdate
[05:30] <corin_777> i tired "sudo apt-get install irssi"
[05:30] <corin_777> it didnt work
[05:30] <dorto> corin_777: its irssi-text
[05:30] <ke> Hey, do you remember the package name for the "compiling common" stuff?
[05:30] <trappist> that's silly
[05:30] <trappist> like there's an irssi-gui
[05:30] <dorto> corin_777: to find the exact package name, you can search  in synaptic package manager
[05:30] <corin_777> thanks
[05:30] <corin_777> i dont have it
[05:31] <corin_777> i dont have a gui
[05:31] <dorto> corin_777: or apt-cache search irssi
[05:31] <corin_777> ok
[05:31] <corin_777> thanks
[05:31] <Absenth> trappist,  second question in that theme, know of a good public ntp server?
[05:31] <rob_p> corin_777:  Any time you want to install something and aren't sure of the package name, do a, "apt-cache search <string>" and you'll get a list of packages containing the string!  Pretty handy!
[05:31] <fredd> hallo people
[05:32] <corin_777> thanks rob_p
[05:32] <trappist> Absenth: pool.ubuntu.org
[05:32] <ogami1972> join #alsa
[05:32] <fredd> i have a problem, i don't understaind this:
[05:32] <trappist> Absenth: I think it's .org - otherwise tock.greyware.com
[05:32] <corin_777> while im here, can anyone here help me with webalizer or wepmin?
[05:32] <fredd> root@fileserver:/ # df -hT
[05:32] <fredd> Filesystem    Type    Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[05:32] <fredd> /dev/hda1     ext3    5.7G  5.4G     0 100% /
[05:32] <fredd> tmpfs        tmpfs    253M     0  253M   0% /dev/shm
[05:32] <fredd> /dev/hdb1     ext3    184G   77G   98G  45% /home
[05:32] <fredd> none         tmpfs    5.0M  2.8M  2.3M  55% /dev
[05:32] <fredd> /dev/sda1     ext2    184G   79G   96G  45% /media/usb0
[05:32] <trappist> fredd: don't paste here.
[05:32] <fredd> if anyone as a FM to read on this I will be grate :)
[05:33] <trappist> fredd: your root filesystem is full.
[05:33] <runedude5> !paste
[05:33] <ubotu> I heard paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:33] <runedude5> fyi
[05:33] <aet> fredd: you have a problem
[05:33] <fredd> yes
[05:33] <corin_777> anyone?
[05:33] <fredd> the partition gets full and i cannot find why
[05:33] <aet> fredd: you should never let root run out of space
[05:33] <fredd> sorry for paste
[05:33] <Absenth> trappist,  many thanks.
[05:34] <Absenth> trappist,  (pausing your vmware ubuntu install plays hell on the clock :)
[05:34] <fredd> well, it should not get full, is a server install with hoary
[05:34] <fredd> and after a while got filled up
[05:34] <dorto> corin_777: ask what exactly you want to ask and then wait to see if someone can help
[05:34] <aet> fredd: check how big /tmp is
[05:34] <fredd> did that
[05:34] <trappist> fredd: you don't have /var on a separate partition - you should do that, especially on a server
[05:34] <fredd> is empty
[05:34] <corin_777> i just need someone to help me set up webmin
[05:34] <corin_777> and webalizer
[05:34] <linuxgeek2> I have paste the error msg I receive while compiling from scratch
[05:34] <linuxgeek2> plz help
[05:35] <linuxgeek2> I have pasted in flood channel
[05:35] <trappist> linuxgeek2: pastebin
[05:35] <trappist> as seen on /topic
[05:35] <Absenth> is there a apt-get install for firefox (flash player) on breezy?
[05:35] <linuxgeek2> Yes I have pasted in pastebin trappist
[05:35] <trappist> link?
[05:35] <trappist> Absenth: flashplugin-nonfree
[05:36] <dorto> why is realplayer present in synaptic if it can't be installed from there?
[05:36] <corin_777> can anyone help?
[05:36] <linuxgeek2> trappist, Plz check pastebin
[05:36] <trappist> dorto: it can.  it's just a badly designed package and nobody knows where the file goes.
[05:36] <linuxgeek2> I am trying to compile freehoo from scratch
[05:36] <linuxgeek2> I receive an error msg
[05:36] <trappist> linuxgeek2: please give me a link to where you pasted it.
[05:37] <linuxgeek2> trappist, just join channel pastebin
[05:37] <dorto> trappist: under what conditions does it get installed? why is not getting installed on my machine?
[05:37] <trappist> linuxgeek2: the way we do it here is... you use the pastebin as described in the topic.
[05:37] <dorto> trappist: or any wiki which tells the steps to follow to install it from syaptic?
[05:37] <linuxgeek2> oh
[05:37] <trappist> dorto: I don't know, I just went to real.com and downloaded and executed their .bin
[05:38] <corin_777> could someone help me setup webmin?
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> Plz check out pastebin channel for now plz
[05:38] <dorto> k
[05:38] <trappist> linuxgeek2: no thanks
[05:38] <Absenth> trappist, you're a gentleman and a schollar.  and on top of all that, you have great taste in beer.
[05:38] <trappist> Absenth: all undeniably true.
[05:38] <linuxgeek2> what?
[05:39] <trappist> linuxgeek2: it's bad form to come into a channel where they've gone to the trouble of setting up a way that they would like you to paste errors, and insist that the people who are here to help you go out of their way to do it another way.
[05:39] <fredd> well i have made a server installation as it is given
[05:39] <concept10> corin_777, whats the problem you have with web min
[05:40] <trappist> fredd: /var tends to fill up on servers - with websites, databases and logfiles.
[05:40] <corin_777> i dont know how to set it up
[05:40] <fredd> anyway, can someone explain me please why there is a ./dev  ?
[05:40] <linuxgeek2> sorry
[05:40] <fredd> yes, but in my case cannot be that...
[05:40] <trappist> fredd: /dev doesn't have real files in it.  those are devices.  it's a pseudo-filesystem.
[05:40] <linuxgeek2> I have used pastebin here is the link : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4565
[05:41] <fredd> thanks trappist...
[05:41] <linuxgeek2> trappist, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4565
[05:41] <linuxgeek2> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4565
[05:41] <fredd> still i don't know what happends to this macchine... it should not fill 5 gb
[05:41] <corin_777> concept10, can you help me set it up?
[05:41] <trappist> linuxgeek2: you
[05:41] <trappist> oops
[05:42] <concept10> corin_777, what do you need to do?
[05:42] <trappist> linuxgeek2: you're missing a file
[05:42] <Stormx2> linuxgeek2: It hasn't found a file.
[05:42] <corin_777> Wellark_, ive installed it...
[05:42] <Stormx2> linuxgeek2: What are you trying to install?
[05:42] <vincent__> ok, if we have to believe the matrix we live in the year 2100 something, so now we can a little thought experiment, that is, we have just travelled back into time and we live in the second mideaval age, the period 2000-2010 !!
[05:42] <corin_777> and /etc/webmin/miniserv.users uses a hash for passwords...
[05:42] <linuxgeek2> Stormx2, I am installing freehoo a console yahoo messenger
[05:42] <corin_777> i dont know how to change the password
[05:42] <Stormx2> vincent__: .....what
[05:42] <vincent__> internet is very unsafe isn't it?
[05:42] <sazwerx> trappist, how to find the link to my device? fyi, the device can be seen when i type "lsusb".. but i dunno where it was..
[05:42] <linuxgeek2> Plz tell me what package I need to install
[05:42] <vincent__> have you not seen the movie "the matrix"?
[05:42] <linuxgeek2> ?
[05:42] <trappist> sazwerx: what device
[05:42] <linuxgeek2> Stormx2, ???
[05:43] <sazwerx> trappist, FWP CDMA Axesstel (USB)
[05:43] <Stormx2> linuxgeek2: Hell I don't know. Why do you need a console manager for yahoo?
[05:43] <concept10> corin_777, have you checked the site? I know its in the FAQ
[05:43] <trappist> sazwerx: what KIND of device is it?  and, look in /proc/bus/usb/devices
[05:43] <linuxgeek2> I wanna use it.
[05:43] <ompaul> vincent__, that game you can play in #ubuntu-offtopic where we get more surreal than your average picasso
[05:43] <linuxgeek2> What package I need to install it
[05:43] <linuxgeek2> ??
[05:43] <sazwerx> trappist, it's a kind of a CDMA modem..
[05:44] <grover> every time I do apt-get update I get a GPG error. is this a problem on my system or is something on the server broken?
[05:44] <trappist> linuxgeek2: I use bitlbee for that
[05:44] <Stormx2> linuxgeek2: redownload and make sure you untar/unzip all files and directories.
[05:44] <trappist> ompaul: picasso wasn't a surrealist, yaknow
[05:44] <Stormx2> Yeah
[05:44] <Stormx2> He was a freak
[05:44] <corin_777> concept10, where?
[05:44] <Stormx2> ^.^
[05:44] <trappist> exactly.
[05:44] <fredd> ok... i gotta go, thanks trappist
[05:45] <concept10> corin_777, http://www.webmin.com/faq.html
[05:45] <vincent__> any dutchies here? how do you say "stelling" in english?
[05:45] <linuxgeek2> Can u tell me what package I need to download it fix the dependency?
[05:45] <Secreth`X> vincent__, Stelling?
[05:45] <ompaul> trappist, so that makes the channel easy to beat him for surreal .. :-)
[05:45] <linuxgeek2> ?? Stormx2
[05:45] <Secreth`X> in welke zin, vincent?
[05:45] <Stormx2> vincent__: Try #ubuntu-nl
[05:45] <vincent__> for instance "stelling van Banch"
[05:45] <Stormx2> linuxgeek2: Is it a dependency problem?
[05:45] <Secreth`X> ah
[05:45] <Stormx2> linuxgeek2: Doesn't look like one.
[05:45] <concept10> corin_777, do you see it? you have to run a perl script
[05:45] <Stormx2> linuxgeek2: Looks like you just havn't extracted all the files to me.
[05:45] <linuxgeek2> I dunno
[05:45] <vincent__> stelling van Banach or contrsctiestelling etc. etc.
[05:46] <steigweis> is libc6-dev the name of the package that i need, when i need libc-dev?
[05:46] <linuxgeek2> Nope I have extracted it properly
[05:46] <linuxgeek2> I downloaded it from the CVS
[05:46] <Stormx2> linuxgeek2: its not in the ubuntu repos?
[05:46] <vincent__> there is no ubuntu-nl
[05:46] <trappist> linuxgeek2: in the tarball there's a configure script - you just ./configure && make && make install
[05:46] <Stormx2> !nl
[05:46] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[05:46] <Secreth`X> ROFL
[05:47] <corin_777> concept10, doesnt work....
[05:47] <corin_777> it cant find that perl file in that path...
[05:47] <linuxgeek2> trappist, I need to run first ./autogen.sh then only can I run ./configure && make && make install
[05:47] <Stormx2> try running ./configure first.
[05:47] <bjorn> hmm eh.. ah very strange question maby, how do you take square root in the calculator? i know you have to switch to advanced or something bot i shows an error, translated from swedish its about "wrongly formed expression"
[05:47] <trappist> linuxgeek2: maybe the cvs version is broken, I don't know - but the tarball is ready for you to ./configure
[05:47] <corin_777> Storm2, me?
[05:47] <corin_777> concept10, ?
[05:47] <Stormx2> bjorn: Let me see.
[05:48] <Stormx2> corin_777: No not you ^.^
[05:48] <corin_777> ok
[05:48] <corin_777> :P
[05:48] <linuxgeek2> ok trappist will try that
[05:48] <bjorn> okey... thanks =D
[05:48] <corin_777> concept10, there is no webmin folder in /usr/local/
[05:49] <Stormx2> bjorn: View > Advanced Mode. It will warn about losing calculation. Basicly, you will lose any number or anything you have in there at the moment
[05:49] <trappist> corin_777: /usr/local is where programs get installed if you don't use the package manager.  dpkg -L webmin to see where the files are.
[05:49] <Stormx2> bjorn: An error?
[05:49] <Stormx2> bjorn: Hmm
[05:49] <bjorn> yes
[05:49] <concept10> corin_777, or locate changepass.pl
[05:50] <mesh> hey guys
[05:50] <sazwerx> trappist, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4568 so how do i know where the device link?
[05:50] <Stormx2> bjorn: You need to hit Sqrt - That will give you "Sqrt(" then type the number, and finally a closing bracket!
[05:50] <Stormx2> hi mesh!
[05:50] <vincent_> help join
[05:50] <corin_777> concept10, how do i locate that?
[05:50] <Stormx2> vincent_: Hmm?
[05:50] <vincent_> ubuntu-nl is not in the channellist
[05:50] <GaRgAm> hi io
[05:51] <Stormx2> vincent_: I see 42 people in #ubuntu-nl
[05:51] <Stormx2> vincent_: Type "/join #ubuntu-nl"
[05:51] <concept10> corin_777, the command is locate
[05:51] <trappist> sazwerx: this is a usb-serial adapter?
[05:51] <bjorn> yes i typed 9 and a finishing bracket, and  then it said i typed wrong :(
[05:51] <vincent_> I think it works!
[05:51] <mesh> upon booting from live cd w/5.10 breezy I am hanging on running /etc/hotplug/usb.rc any ideas?
[05:52] <corin_777> ok, ive changed the password concept10.....
[05:52] <concept10> corin_777, did you run the script
[05:52] <corin_777> yes
[05:52] <sazwerx> trappist, yes.. it's only for example, coz my CDMA modem now is already connected to my windows computer.. so, can u tell me how to know the device link from that?
[05:52] <concept10> you used locate?
[05:52] <corin_777> no
[05:52] <corin_777> :P
[05:52] <corin_777> but anyway
[05:52] <corin_777> now, how can i get webmin to work with apache2, which is in /var/www/ ?
[05:53] <concept10> corin_777, are you on a fresh install?
[05:53] <corin_777> of what?
[05:53] <corin_777> webmin?
[05:53] <corin_777> yes
[05:53] <trappist> sazwerx: anything in /dev/usb/tty/ ?
[05:53] <concept10> no, apache2
[05:54] <corin_777> fairly....
[05:54] <Moof> am I right in thinking if I want to upgrade haory to breezy I just change the apt sources?
[05:54] <bjorn> hmm it works if i just unmark "use aritmetic order" (freely translated :P)..
[05:54] <corin_777> ive installed that, php, mysql, proftpd, phpmyadmin....
[05:54] <corin_777> created a folder in /var/www/
[05:54] <thrush> Moof: yes
[05:54] <concept10> do you still get the default page
[05:54] <corin_777> put a few files in
[05:54] <corin_777> nothing else
[05:54] <ogami1972> hi all- i need sound help- i went tot the alsa channel, but they just told me to go to the website- you can read for hours and never find your problem
[05:54] <thrush> Moof: then dist-upgrade
[05:54] <Moof> no other special actions need doing?
[05:54] <sazwerx> trappist, there's no /dev/usb on my comp..
[05:54] <ogami1972> i just want to record in- i could do it before the last reinsatll, now i can't
[05:55] <rel_> soo, how do I get ubuntu to do my quantum physics homework for me?
[05:55] <DShepherd> rel_: you dont
[05:55] <thrush> Moof: change sources.list; apt-get upgrade; dist-upgrade. thats all I did
[05:55] <rel_> crapp
[05:55] <sazwerx> trappist, could it be that the kernel hasnt supported my device?
[05:55] <corin_777> concept10?
[05:55] <DShepherd> rel_: you do it yourself
[05:55] <thrush> Moof: apt-get update
[05:55] <andream> hi, will the ubuntu live cd be able to "see" a winnt filesystem?
[05:55] <trappist> sazwerx: lsmod | grep pl2303
[05:56] <concept10> corin_777, goto your ip address:10000
[05:56] <rel_> DShepherd:  pshh
[05:56] <synapsis_> how can i install winblows onto the computer?
[05:57] <trappist> synapsis_: wrong channel
[05:57] <corin_777> concept10, nothing...
[05:57] <DShepherd> andream: yes but you will have to mount it though
[05:57] <trappist> sazwerx: what about /dev/ttyusb0
[05:57] <synapsis_> trappist: well i would like to use ubuntu, however my brothers complaining like usual, so i have to install that garbage and get viruses again.
[05:57] <ogami1972> don't do it snyapsis- you'll never be clean again!
[05:57] <sazwerx> trappist, the usb-serial adapter has succesfully installed and configured (/dev/ttyUSB0)..but all i wanna know is, how can we know the device link, for the other device?
[05:57] <corin_777> concept10, can you try?
[05:57] <corin_777> i'll pm you
[05:57] <concept10> corin_777, try https://myhost:10000/  where my host is your ip address
[05:57] <joh> synapsis_: complaining about what? games? if so, check transgaming.org
[05:57] <synapsis_> ogami1972: i know, i'm upset about it
[05:58] <corin_777> ok
[05:58] <concept10> corin_777, I dont use webmin
[05:58] <corin_777> "Error - Access denied for 192.168.2.2"
[05:58] <ispiked> does scubajeff (from the forums) ever come on IRC?
[05:58] <sazwerx> trappist, when i plugin my CDMA modem, i cant find the device link..
[05:58] <trappist> sazwerx: what other device? the device with the serial port?
[05:58] <synapsis_> joh: no just complaining in general, thats all he does.  makes big deals out of nothing, meanwhile i'll install windows and he'll load it up with all sorts of spyware and viruses and expect me to fix everything
[05:58] <andream> DShepherd: is there any documentation?
[05:58] <trappist> sazwerx: ah.  I don't know.
[05:58] <joh> synapsis_: so don't install windows then :p
[05:58] <Secreth`X> yay, food, brb :)
[05:59] <sazwerx> trappist, mm.. ok, then.. thanks, bro
[05:59] <synapsis_> joh: wish it was that easy bud
[05:59] <Mabus06> to burn a dvd rip with the video_ts folder and everything, do you burn a data dvd?
[05:59] <ispiked> !seen scubajeff
[05:59] <ubotu> ispiked: i haven't seen 'scubajeff'
[05:59] <andream> or can anyone recommend a cd distro that lets me quickly recover some files from winxp
[05:59] <Absenth|lunch> bbilb
[05:59] <DShepherd> andream: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2514705 <-- mount doc
[05:59] <sazwerx> !seen *202.152*
[05:59] <ubotu> i haven't seen '*202.152*', sazwerx
[06:00] <corin_777> concept10?
[06:00] <DShepherd> andream: knoppix is a great live cd.... auto mounts your windows partitions
[06:00] <andream> DShepherd: thanks
[06:00] <concept10> corin_777, huh?
[06:00] <DShepherd> andream: np
[06:00] <corin_777> concept10, ive just seen, in the conf file, it says "allow = 127.0.0.1"
[06:01] <corin_777> can i have allow = all or something?
[06:01] <joh> Mabus06: http://dvd.chevelless230.com/
[06:01] <voth> can someone assist me with mounting a windows partition, i've already created /mnt/windows and mounted it as /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows
[06:01] <concept10> corin_777, put your ip address there, i fotgot about that i havent used it in a while
[06:02] <synapsis_> anyways thanks for the help all
[06:02] <synapsis_> was nice using ubuntu
[06:02] <synapsis_> seeyahs
[06:02] <token_> hi everyone ...
[06:02] <soundray> voth, what's the problem then?
[06:03] <Liket> how can i make the local terminal (fresh breezy install) display "graphics" characters such as the ones used in aptitude?
[06:03] <corin_777> concept10, not working...
[06:03] <concept10> corin_777, why are you dicking around with webmin anyway?
[06:03] <voth> when i nav. to it states that i don't have the permission
[06:03] <ispiked> voth: something like mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -o ro,uid=<your user id>
[06:03] <corin_777> concept10, interested
[06:03] <concept10> corin_777, try allow all
[06:03] <ispiked> voth: does it automount it?
[06:03] <voth> yes
[06:03] <dabaR> so
[06:03] <ispiked> voth: yeah, I had the same problem. just add the uid part to fstab and you should be OK.
[06:04] <corin_777> concept10, still no
[06:04] <voth> ok, what should i use as type, options, dump, pass
[06:04] <corin_777> ive aso tried removing that line completely
[06:05] <ispiked> voth: my line in fstab looks like this: /dev/sda2       /media/sda2     ntfs    uid=aguthrie,ro   0       0
[06:05] <voth> what is ,ro  0 0 ?
[06:05] <ScatterBrain> Anyone having a problem with Firefox?
[06:05] <ScatterBrain> I can't keep it running....
[06:06] <thrush> voth: read only
[06:06] <ispiked> voth: I don't know what dump and pass are (probably in `man mount'), but ro is read only. it's not good to change stuff on an ntfs partition.
[06:06] <ispiked> ScatterBrain: try in safe mode.
[06:06] <ispiked> ScatterBrain: ./firefox -safe-mode
[06:07] <voth> can i have it reload fstab or should i just attempt to access it again.
[06:07] <ispiked> voth: I think `mount -a' should do that.
[06:07] <Liket> is there a recommended kernel source package i can get through aptitude? or, what's the easiest way to get started compiling my own kernel?
[06:07] <voth> what does your perm look like ?
[06:07] <voth> mine is dr-x------
[06:08] <Syrus> is there a program similar to xf86setup for ubuntu (and xorg obviously)?
[06:08] <ispiked> voth: on?
[06:08] <mutunus> is anyone else getting a gpg error when performing apt-get upgrade -- its been persistemt now for i'd say a week... Any Solutions?
[06:08] <voth> that mounted drive
[06:08] <corin_777> concept10, not working...
[06:08] <Rawplayer> re
[06:08] <ispiked> voth: did you try what I said?
[06:08] <NoUse> !tell mutunus about gpgerr
[06:09] <concept10> corin_777, check the faq, you shuld figure it out
[06:09] <soundray> ispiked, I think voth needs to umount /mnt/windows before mount -a
[06:09] <corin_777> which bit?
[06:09] <ispiked> soundray: yeah.
[06:09] <corin_777> im reading it atm concept10...
[06:09] <ScatterBrain> !backports
[06:09] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports.
[06:09] <voth> it doesn't like my line in fstab
[06:09] <ispiked> voth: did you hear soundray?
[06:09] <dabaR> voth: mount with -o users
[06:09] <mutunus> NoUse, Thanks
[06:10] <dabaR> voth: man mount if you want to read.
[06:10] <ispiked> voth: yeah, dabaR's idea is probably better than the uid thing.
[06:11] <dabaR> ispiked: also some umask=0000 somewhere, I think in fstab would work.
[06:11] <token_> i got a problem: i cant switch between different text screens via F1 F2 Fx in text mode and i also cant run Xwindows via F7 when i switched to text mode ... any suggestions?
[06:11] <voth> what should i use for type? it doesn't like ntfs
[06:12] <corin_777> concept10, looked through it all, cant find anything helpful, except the webmin.acl bit, which doesnt help, as it was already correct, and because my browser isnt even letting me say who i want to login as!
[06:12] <NoUse> voth what kind of filesystem is it?
[06:13] <voth> ntfs
[06:13] <concept10> corin_777, did you use https:// notice the s
[06:13] <corin_777> yes i did
[06:13] <musik> can anyone tell me where i can download michael's who is it song plz???????
[06:13] <joachim_> anyone here use inkscape?
[06:13] <NoUse> voth then ntfs should work, what error are you getting?
[06:13] <joachim_> I can't copy & paste beween documents
[06:13] <voth> i need to do something with the permissions, still doesn't like that its root root
[06:13] <concept10> corin_777, what the problem, you cant login or bring it up?
[06:14] <soundray> token_, the keys are Alt-Fx when in console mode, Ctrl-Alt-Fx when in X.
[06:14] <corin_777> i go to https://192.168.2.12:10000 (thats the internal IP), and it brings a page saying "Error - Access denied for 192.168.2.2"
[06:14] <voth> tried sudo chown voth:voth /mnt/windows
[06:14] <cranberries> when I cpufreq-set,  the message "unknow or unhandled CPU?" anyone  can help me ?
[06:15] <NoUse> voth did you do that while the ntfs drive was mounted?
[06:15] <concept10> corin_777, check your firewall, maybe port forwarding
[06:15] <voth> yeah
[06:15] <voth> i just umounted it
[06:15] <NoUse> voth you can't chmod ntfs drives
[06:15] <NoUse> voth you have to pass the uid=xxx mount option where xxx is your user id
[06:15] <voth> well, how do i gain access to the drive ?
[06:16] <dabaR> then mount it with umask=0000
[06:16] <cranberries> voth ntfs can't edit
[06:16] <dabaR> voth: or mount -o users
[06:16] <dabaR> !readntfs
[06:16] <corin_777> concept10, still not working...
[06:17] <corey> Is there another popular email client besides evolution or thunderbird?
[06:17] <concept10> corin_777, i dont know what it could be then.  i would suggest not wasting time with it
[06:17] <corin_777> :'(
[06:17] <Agrajag> voth: here's an fstab line that will allow all users to read from an ntfs partition:
[06:17] <Agrajag> /dev/hda1       /mnt/windows    ntfs    users,ro,umask=0222,nls=utf8,exec      0 0
[06:18] <wdh> corey, mutt
[06:18] <wdh> corey, :P
[06:18] <Agrajag> just change the device and mountpoint as needed
[06:19] <cranberries> when I login gnome, then message "CPU frequenct scaling unspupported" anyone can help me ?
[06:19] <concept10> corin_777, what do you need webmin for?
[06:19] <corey> wdh, lol, Its not for me, Its for my prodigy ubuntero convert. He just isn't happy with evo.
[06:19] <corin_777> a server
[06:19] <voth> Agrajag, thanks, works like a champ
[06:19] <Agrajag> voth: cool
[06:19] <corin_777> im giving access to friends who wont be able to use linux, ssh, etc
[06:19] <voth> and eveyone else who gave advice
[06:19] <wdh> corey, and what is wrong with thunderbird?
[06:19] <corey> I suggested thunderbird, but I think hes had bad experiences with it in windows. Did they ever fix that bug where the inbox gets thousands of new emails and slows to a crawl for no reason?
[06:19] <soundray> voth: sometimes it takes an Agrajag :)
[06:20] <vbhanu> I use my mplayer for with the xv as output plugin. But after sometime generally after I start some other applications like say firefox then the lower half of the video starts shaking. I mean it flutters
[06:20] <wdh> corey, never heard of that bug :P
[06:20] <concept10> corin_777, they dont have command line access?
[06:20] <NoUse> corey you can browse types of software in synaptic
[06:20] <wdh> corey, and it sounds anoying.. so i'm glad i havent
[06:20] <corin_777> they use windows, they are idiots
[06:20] <vbhanu> This continues even if i restart the video.
[06:20] <vbhanu> please help
[06:21] <corey> wdh, It may be windows only. Happens to my mom as wellIts a BITCH. You had to do all sorts of crap to get rid of it before. I think they made the workaround easier in the last few versions but it was still there last I used it
[06:22] <sambagirl> is this correct how i have this? http://localhost/home/jazzy/openemr-2.8.0/setup.php
[06:22] <dabaR> sambagirl: all except the localhost
[06:22] <soundray> vbhanu, sounds like a hardware fault to me...
[06:23] <sambagirl> ahh dont put localhost?
[06:23] <lingoist> good evening! how can i get a screen res of 1280*800 on my 15.4"? In my xorg.conf the value is 1280x800 but i dont get the option when I click on Settings>Screenresolution
[06:23] <lingoist> fglrx is installed
[06:23] <sambagirl> it says an unknown host name
[06:23] <sambagirl> i removed localhost
[06:23] <corin_777> concept10, sorted it!
[06:23] <corin_777> :D
[06:24] <concept10> corin_777, what was the problem
[06:24] <NoUse> sambagirl localhost always points at your machine, so you can't give that URL out because it won't work for other people
[06:24] <dabaR> sambagirl: localhost is your computer to you. to me, its my computer. its home.
[06:24] <choudesh> cranberries, You have the CPU/FREQ applet on a toolbar.
[06:24] <corin_777> not sure
[06:24] <corin_777> i just fiddled a few things
[06:24] <fypon> where is a good place to find info on installing ati 9550?
[06:24] <corin_777> now its not letting me login though
[06:24] <sambagirl> this is just for a seutp for myself to explore this thing. it's not setup or anything.
[06:24] <NoUse> !tell fypon about ati
[06:24] <choudesh> cranberries, If you see a little chip with a green bar, right click on it and remove it
[06:24] <dabaR> sambagirl: replace localhost with your IP address, or domain name when you want someone else to be able to see it.
[06:24] <sambagirl> ohhh
[06:25] <dabaR> sambagirl: yes.
[06:25] <choudesh> cranberries, Your cpu doesn't support freq. scaling.
[06:25] <NoUse> sambagirl well then no, you have to run that php file through the webserver otherwise it doesn't get interpretted
[06:25] <ke> Hey, people.. Can anyone tell me the name of some common package with all compiling stuff?
[06:25] <NoUse> !tell sambagirl about php
[06:25] <siriuskr> A good FTP Gui Program ??
[06:25] <sambagirl> how do  i find my ip for this computer?
[06:25] <choudesh> ke, binutils, gnu gcc. ;-)
[06:25] <sambagirl> no winipcfg?
[06:25] <NoUse> sambagirl ifconfig
[06:25] <lingoist> sambagirl: www.myipaddress.com
[06:25] <choudesh> sambagirl, open terminal then type 'ifconfig'
[06:25] <darkheart> ke build-essential
[06:25] <dabaR> sambagirl: open a terminal. type _ifconfig_ and press enter
[06:26] <ke> Exactly, darkheart! Thanks :)
[06:26] <siriuskr> A good FTP Gui Program ??
[06:26] <darkheart> ke np =)
[06:26] <myk3> hey
[06:26] <myk3> i tried to add a theme
[06:26] <Liket> how can i make the local terminal (fresh breezy install) display "graphics" characters such as the ones used in aptitude and mc?
[06:26] <corin_777> concept10, and fixed that too, thanks for all your help   :)
[06:26] <myk3> and it doesnt look like it did in the screen shot
[06:26] <myk3> can anyone help me with the themes?
[06:26] <dabaR> sambagirl: the *inet* *addr:* field
[06:26] <myk3> i installed it and it doesnt look anything like the screen shot
[06:26] <myk3> can someone help me please
[06:27] <choudesh> midnight commander has graphical characters?
[06:27] <siriuskr> myk3 what did you install ?
[06:27] <tns> hi all
[06:27] <choudesh> tns, hello.
[06:27] <myk3> anyone
[06:27] <siriuskr> myk3 what did you install ?
[06:27] <choudesh> lol. ;-)
[06:27] <funkyHat> what file defines keyboard maps? i want to map my extra keys
[06:28] <Liket> choudesh: the line frames around the panels, yes.. and in my stock breezy install, they don't show up at all -- i have to run 'mc -a' for it not to look garbled
[06:28] <orchid> hello, I have a Nikon coolpix usb mass storage camera, f-spot and usbmount installed, but cannot see the photos in /media/usb, lsusb shows Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04b0:0104 Nikon Corp. Coolpix 995, can I mount the device manually? (on Debian Sarge for example they were at /dev/sda1 but ubuntu uses udev now?)
[06:28] <sambagirl> i dont understand lingoist sorry
[06:28] <gordo> is there a way to upgrade from ubuntu to kubuntu
[06:28] <gordo> using aptitude
[06:28] <sambagirl> there is on simple command i can run from root terminal?
[06:29] <dabaR> sambagirl: whats your first language?
[06:29] <sambagirl> english
[06:29] <dabaR> ok
[06:29] <NoUse> sambagirl ifconfig will output your IP address
[06:29] <sambagirl> i typed ipconfig and nothing happened.
[06:29] <choudesh> dabaR, I was thinking the same thing.
[06:29] <NoUse> sambagirl please read carefully
[06:30] <NoUse> sambagirl iFconfig
[06:30] <lingoist> can anyone help me to get my resolution in 1280x800 plz? or point me somewhere?
[06:30] <Liket> sambagirl: ipconfig is windows. ifconfig is linux
[06:30] <darkheart> sambagirl It's ifconfig, and it won't give you a good IP if you are behind a router.
[06:30] <dabaR> choudesh: what?XD
[06:30] <sambagirl> lols sorry
[06:30] <lingoist> sambagirl: visit www.myipaddress.com
[06:30] <dabaR> sambagirl: scroll up, its ifconfig...
[06:30] <choudesh> dabaR, The umm, I think you could have called that a sentence. ;-)
[06:30] <dabaR> sambagirl: re read what I sent.
[06:30] <sambagirl> ok so my ip config i have now.
[06:31] <gordo> anyone?
[06:31] <dabaR> no, your interface config.
[06:31] <leandro_> gordo, read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//InstallingKDE
[06:31] <sambagirl> http://192.168.0.100/home/jazzy/openemr-2.8.0/setup.php
[06:31] <sambagirl> that correct?
[06:31] <lingoist> no
[06:31] <dabaR> gordo: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop its not an upgrade:P
[06:31] <gordo> leandro_, thanks
[06:31] <dabaR> sambagirl: no, its not. What exactr make and model router do you use?
[06:31] <NoUse> sambagirl you are behind a router, visit http://www.myipaddress.com
[06:31] <Secreth`X> Welcome
[06:31] <sambagirl> yes
[06:31] <sambagirl> all i want to do is look on this computer at this setup page ;).
[06:32] <dabaR> well, just look at it already.
[06:32] <sambagirl> ok i'll visit the page
[06:32] <Secreth`X> gordo, I noticed that the URL i gave was outdated
[06:32] <NoUse> sambagirl if all you want to do is look at this page on your computer, localhost will work, you just can't send the URL to other people
[06:32] <sambagirl> seems i could do like 127.0.0.1
[06:32] <Secreth`X> gordo, you need to do what dabaR said..
[06:32] <sambagirl> no i dont want to i just want to see it.
[06:32] <Vasci> hello
[06:32] <lingoist> no one got a link for me? i want 1280x800 :(
[06:33] <Vasci> can some1 help me to install f4l ?
[06:33] <dabaR> sambagirl: just see it, that looks ok with localhost.
[06:33] <NoUse> sambagirl your path is wrong, you need to have that php file in a web accessible folder
[06:33] <sambagirl> ahh ok
[06:33] <sambagirl> so i need to move the folder to apache www foldre of somethign?
[06:34] <dabaR> sambagirl: haha, file:///home/jazzy/openemr-2.8.0/setup.php
[06:34] <NoUse> dabaR but that won't get parsed by the PHP engine
[06:34] <dabaR> NoUse: ah, right.
[06:34] <NoUse> sambagirl yeah you can mkdir ~/public_html/ and put it in there
[06:34] <dabaR> !+info f4l
[06:34] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[06:34] <ubotu> Package 'f4l' does not exist.
[06:34] <sambagirl> that brought it up
[06:35] <sambagirl> but now it's just a script and i thought it was going to be graphica.
[06:35] <NoUse> sambagirl yeah because you have to put it in a web accessible folder like I said before
[06:35] <dabaR> sambagirl: like NoUse said.
[06:35] <sambagirl> ok
[06:36] <synapsis_> i realize this isn't a nobel question to ask, but i have to delete ubuntu, how can i do this?
[06:36] <dabaR> Vasci: they have a deb on their site.
[06:36] <Secreth`X> gordo, did you get my messages?
[06:36] <dabaR> Vasci: version 0.2. what are you installing?
[06:36] <NoUse> synapsis_ you dual boot with windows?
[06:37] <synapsis_> NoUse: nope
[06:37] <NoUse> synapsis_ then just format the drive
[06:37] <Liket> how do i get aptitude to display correctly in the terminal? for some reason all line characters are being omitted completely, so the layout is completely garbled.
[06:37] <synapsis_> NoUse: just strictly ubuntu on the drive
[06:37] <sambagirl> like right here? media:/hda1/var/www
[06:37] <dabaR> Liket: why do you use aptitude like that? try ctrl+l
[06:37] <NoUse> sambagirl yeah or ~/public_html/
[06:38] <synapsis_> NoUse: how would i go about this?
[06:38] <Liket> dabaR: ctrl-L has no effect except to redraw the screen
[06:38] <NoUse> synapsis_ get a live CD
[06:38] <sambagirl> under www apache is there
[06:39] <lingoist> plz help, am getting desperate...how can i get a screen res of 1280x800 ?
[06:39] <Liket> dabar: what do you mean exactly, what is ctrl+l supposed to do?
[06:39] <synapsis_> NoUse: k i got it thanks
[06:39] <dabaR> Liket: right, i dont get your question, anyhow. that what you said.
[06:39] <lingoist> is it really so difficult?
[06:39] <markl__> lingoist: how familiar are you with text editing tools?
[06:39] <NoUse> lingoist does your monitor support that resolution?
[06:39] <markl__> it will be moderately difficult
[06:39] <lingoist> i added to xorg.conf 1280x800
[06:39] <lingoist> yes, it does...at least in windows
[06:39] <markl__> ah well that is the hard part, heh
[06:40] <dabaR> lingoist: add the refresh rates to the monitor section as shown on the !fixres
[06:40] <lingoist> yeah, but i still dont get it ;(
[06:40] <markl__> did you add the modeline and the mode in the proper bit depth?
[06:40] <sambagirl> if i go to my root i can just make a folder public_html ?
[06:40] <Liket> dabar: well, i have a fresh ubuntu (breezy) install. when i run mc or aptitude, the screen display is "garbled", apparently because the terminal omits line drawing characters instead of displaying them.
[06:40] <markl__> you will also need to set the proper horizsync & vertrefresh (should be autodetected but often is not)
[06:40] <Liket> dabar: so the question is, why does a fresh install have this problem, and why do i fix it?
[06:40] <NoUse> sambagirl yeah in your home directory, then that is accessed via http://IP_address/~username/
[06:40] <Liket> *how* i mean :)
[06:40] <markl__> lingoist: look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see why it rejected that mode
[06:41] <lingoist> markl__: ok, I'll have a look there
[06:41] <Redrose> What's The REpositro address to upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[06:41] <NoUse> !tell Redrose about breezy
[06:41] <sambagirl> nouse not trying to be stupid but i make a public under /home/jazzy/public-html
[06:41] <jonny_> Hi guys.  I'm completely new to linux.  Can anyone tell me how to set up the WPA supplicant in breezy badger?
[06:41] <NoUse> sambagirl no its public_html
[06:41] <yi> it's public_html
[06:41] <laszlok> whats a good text editor for gnome with syntax highlighting?
[06:42] <markl__> laszlok: you are opening a big can of worms there, heh.  but vi and emacs are both good
[06:42] <dabaR> laszlok: gedit, IDEs.
[06:42] <NoUse> jonny_ I haven't do it but I think the app called wifiradar is a nice GUI to set it up
[06:42] <corin_777> concept10, you still there?
[06:42] <markl__> all you have to do is follow the worms
[06:43] <concept10> corin_777, yeah
[06:43] <nickrud> laszlok, gvim, anjuta are nice
[06:43] <Liket> dabar: oh, actually i mean the *console* not the terminal (my bad, wrong word).
[06:43] <jonny_> Brilliant.  Thanks NoUse.
[06:43] <DShepherd> laszlok: gedit
[06:43] <dabaR> Liket: I understand, its not common.
[06:43] <corin_777> concept10, you seem good at research, how can i install a webmin module? :)
[06:43] <lingoist> ok, Xorg.0.log didnt help me...Modeline says 1280x800 83.91 1280 1312 1624 1656 800 816 824 841
[06:43] <markl__> lingoist: but it should say whether it accepts or rejects that modeline
[06:44] <dabaR> lingoist: what exact brand and model of monitor do you have?
[06:44] <markl__> somewhere in there
[06:44] <dabaR> ubotu: tell lingoist about fixres
[06:44] <lingoist> it is a laptop asus a6va
[06:45] <Tony_Sidaway> Hey, I had a problem getting to text consoles from X.  Fixed it largely by reinstalling xserver-xorg and all its immediate dependencies.
[06:45] <GNAM> DAPPER LSB?
[06:45] <GNAM> incredible
[06:46] <GNAM> and .deb?
[06:46] <lingoist> markl__: what should i look for in the log?
[06:46] <Tony_Sidaway> Problem is I have to execute a xmodmap script, still, and even then it doesn't recognise the ALT key bindings.
[06:46] <lingoist> what string?
[06:46] <Tony_Sidaway> Instead I have to do Shift-F1, etc.
[06:46] <Tony_Sidaway> Weird.
[06:46] <corin_777> concept10, scrap that, how can i upgrade webmin?
[06:46] <sambagirl> ok i have a folder called public_html now and i copied the openEMR.2.8.0 folder to public_html so now i am set i think
[06:46] <NoUse> lingoist try running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' from a terminal and see if you can enable that resolution from there
[06:47] <lingoist> ok, NoUse ...thx
[06:48] <NoUse> sambagirl make sure that the public_html folder is world readable and world executable
[06:48] <sambagirl> it says Connection to host smb://locahost/openemr-2.8.0/setup.php is broken.
[06:48] <dtamas> Are there mp3 cutter gui-tool for ubuntu?
[06:48] <NoUse> sambagirl why are you trying to use samba protocol?
[06:48] <sambagirl> what are the chmod for that mnouse?
[06:49] <sambagirl> i aam not i used it for windows connections things before see?
[06:49] <NoUse> chmod o+r public_html; chmod o+x public_html
[06:49] <NoUse> sambagirl use http not sm
[06:49] <NoUse> smb*
[06:50] <sambagirl> you mean use http:// not file:// ?
[06:50] <NoUse> sambagirl yeah
[06:50] <gordo> secreth`X, yes i got your message, thank you
[06:50] <gordo> secreth`X, what packages should i remove to get rid of gnome afterwards
[06:51] <gordo> i want to keep my system un cluttered
[06:51] <sambagirl> http://home/jazzy/public_html/openemr-2.8.0/setup.php: it keeps saying unknowm host name
[06:51] <NoUse> sambagirl you neeed a hostname or IP address
[06:51] <sambagirl> ok
[06:51] <sambagirl> this is on my local pc
[06:51] <sambagirl> ok
[06:52] <NoUse> sambagirl http://localhost/~yourusername/openemr...
[06:52] <Secreth`X> gordo, I apoligise. I don't know that. But I think it cant hurt if you leave the remaining packages.
[06:52] <NoUse> sambagirl the URL doesn't match with your filesystem path
[06:52] <linukso> Hi! Does anyone know the status of ubuntu on apples iBook? What I read in the wiki wasn't very uplifting... Is it possible to get stuff like wlan and graphics working?
[06:52] <raphink> sambagirl: the root of the http server is not / , it's /var/www, and referred to as localhost/
[06:53] <raphink> linukso: I have used ubuntu on macs and have been happy with it
[06:53] <gordo> secreth`X, ill play it by feel
[06:53] <gordo> thank you
[06:53] <raphink> linukso: many debian devs use debian on ibooks
[06:53] <raphink> so I'm pretty sure ubuntu should work fine
[06:54] <sambagirl> oh so then public should be in /var/www/openemr.2.8.0/
[06:54] <sambagirl> oh so then public should be in /var/www/public_html/openemr.2.8.0/
[06:54] <NoUse> sambagirl no
[06:54] <hedonick> I recall reading that new ibooks needs a 2.6.14 kernel for the touchpad though
[06:54] <raphink> sambagirl: no sambagirl
[06:54] <linukso> raphink: hm, sounds fine! So buying a iBook won't leave me stuck in mac osX missery :)?
[06:54] <NoUse> sambagirl I think you might need to do some reading on how Unix web servers function
[06:54] <sambagirl> ok
[06:54] <sambagirl> ok
[06:54] <nalioth> linukso: ubuntu works fully ootb on ibooks, (except for the horrible broadcom chipset)
[06:55] <gordo> is there more of a chance of getting a wifi card up on breezy than hoary?
[06:55] <gordo> lol
[06:55] <raphink> sambagirl: if you put soemthing in /var/www/, you'll find it in http://localhost/
[06:55] <gordo> linksys card
[06:55] <sambagirl> ok
[06:55] <linukso> nalioth: thats airport xtrm?
[06:55] <sambagirl> i'll just copy everythign there why not
[06:55] <raphink> sambagirl: but if you put something in your ~/public_html, you'll find it in http://localhost/~youruser/
[06:56] <nalioth> linukso: correct. hang on i got a link for ya
[06:56] <sambagirl> ok
[06:56] <nalioth> linukso:  http://linux-wless.passys.nl/
[06:56] <raphink> sambagirl: so  you can choose whether you want to put things on your server root or in your user dir on the http server
[06:56] <Talisker> hi, I can't get firefox to play audio for flash movies all of the sudden
[06:56] <linukso> nalioth: thanks!
[06:56] <nalioth> linukso: i have several macs and the only thing ubuntu doesnt run on is the very newest products from them
[06:56] <Talisker> playing mp3's works, and that problem usually does'nt exist
[06:57] <nalioth> linukso: iow, idk if it'll run on the new 13" widescreen intel ibook
[06:57] <pasta> hello, can someone say me which packages i need for the sdl libary to compile my own sdl programms
[06:57] <corin_777> concept10???
[06:57] <concept10> corin_777, huh?
[06:57] <nalioth> pasta: libsdl*-dev
[06:57] <sambagirl> what i really want to do is just see what this software looks like on a unix machine so to determine if we can use it at the office as medical clinicical software basically.
[06:57] <Nihil85> hello! when ubuntu is loading, i receive this error message: "Temporary failure in name resolution". wha'ts the problem? how can i solve it?
[06:57] <corin_777> concept10, can you help me find out how to upgrade to the latest version of webmin?  i cant find it anywhere...
[06:58] <raphink> what software sambagirl ? apache ?
[06:58] <concept10> corin_777, where did you get the version youre on?
[06:58] <sambagirl> no openemr
[06:58] <nalioth> Nihil85: if its temporary, i suspect it's a network problem
[06:58] <linukso> nalioth: idk ? (I ain't no irc guru... :) )
[06:58] <corin_777> concept10, apt-get install webmin
[06:58] <Liket> how can i get my console to display line-drawing characters correctly? (in aptitude, mc for example)
[06:59] <sambagirl> my boyfreind is a physician and we are trying to save money by trying this since it is free and i like ubuntu interface and so does he, so we dont want to use windows we like this system apperance.
[06:59] <pasta> nalioth: i've this package but gcc returns test.c:2:17: SDL.h: file not found
[06:59] <raphink> sambagirl: ok
[06:59] <Nihil85> i also receive another error, but i don't know if it's related to that problem: "/.dmrc has incorrect permissions and is being ignored. file should be owned by user and have 644 permission". The fact is that the file is owned by me and it has 644 permission too!!!
[06:59] <raphink> sambagirl: what exactly is openemr?
[06:59] <Nihil85> nalioth, in fact i cannot start the connection at boot, but i must do "pon dsl-provider" everytime i reboot
[07:00] <eternal> Salut
[07:00] <eternal> a tous
[07:00] <raphink> eternal: c'est un forum anglophone ici , va sur #ubuntu-fr pour le franais
[07:00] <KRavEN> I just got my i386 system up and running on the default breezy amd64 kernel and was wondering if there was a way to make synaptic stop flagging binutils-static and also flag upgrades for the kernel/restricted modules?
[07:00] <eternal> ok
[07:00] <nalioth> Nihil85: i'm not familiar with pppoe
[07:01] <concept10> corin_777, http://webmin.com/download.html
[07:01] <lingoist> whats the "universe repository"?
[07:01] <sambagirl> this is open medical records that has appointments, chartings, histories, prescriptions and all those type thigns with built in billing to insurance companies etc.. that is given away as free source by Veterans Administraion of the USA.
[07:01] <raphink> sambagirl: and if I understand well, openemr uses http ?
[07:01] <nalioth> pasta: do you use a terminal or synaptic for your pkg management?
[07:01] <dabaR> Nihil85: the pppoe dont work on boot since you upgraded to breezy?
[07:01] <Nihil85>  nalioth, don't worry. But can you help me with the second loading problem?
[07:01] <corin_777> concept10, i dont have to install it all again, do I?
[07:01] <sambagirl> actually it is called VistaEMR i thouhgt but somehow it has a new name? brb let me chedk the website at sourceforge.
[07:01] <Nihil85> dabaR, i installed directly breezy, i made no upgrade
[07:01] <dabaR> ubotu: tell lingoist about components
[07:02] <nalioth> linukso: idk = i dont know
[07:02] <nalioth> Nihil85: second loading problem?
[07:02] <dabaR> Nihil85: and it does not work on boot? do you know how to post to pastebin?
[07:02] <Nihil85> dabaR, i know
[07:02] <Nihil85> nalioth, i also receive another error, but i don't know if it's related to that problem: "/.dmrc has incorrect permissions and is being ignored. file should be owned by user and have 644 permission". The fact is that the file is owned by me and it has 644 permission too!!!
[07:02] <corin_777> concept10????
[07:03] <concept10> corin_777, im not sure what you are tring to do. run dpkg -l | grep webmin see what version you have already
[07:03] <linukso> nalioth: thanks9
[07:03] <dabaR> Nihil85: post your /etc/network/interfaces file there. "cat /etc/network/interfaces"
[07:03] <KRavEN> did my last message come through with half blank? looked that way to me but it might just be xchat
[07:03] <sambagirl> its based on Mumps. the software loooks awesome!
[07:03] <corin_777> concept10, 1.230, and i need the latest version to install some modules....
[07:03] <sambagirl> it has everything.
[07:04] <nalioth> Nihil85: rename it to .dmrc.bak and see what happens
[07:04] <linukso> nalioth: think I'll just save my money for a IBM X41 :)...
[07:04] <Secreth`X> Got to go
[07:04] <Secreth`X> See ya..
[07:05] <nalioth> linukso: not gonna get a sweet 13" widescreen intel dual core ibook?
[07:05] <Nihil85> dabaR, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4569
[07:05] <sambagirl> they now even have a website. openemr.net
[07:05] <sambagirl> this is a very big deal for the medical community!
[07:05] <KRavEN> okay, so i just got my i386 breezy install up and running on the breezy amd64 kernel cuz i'm wanting to do some chroot gentoo compiles for amd64 setup
[07:06] <linukso> nalioth: hm, didn't see it on apples website...
[07:06] <dabaR> Nihil85: see how you have two conflicting interfaces for pppoe...
[07:06] <KRavEN> problem is that synaptic update keeps flagging binutils-static to upgrade
[07:06] <KRavEN> how do I make it stop?
[07:06] <sambagirl> i was just thinking if i can be good at this, i can becomee a cousultant for this.
[07:06] <linukso> nalioth: but if sounds nice :D
[07:06] <concept10> corin_777, sorry, i cant help, i dont use webmin, i was just trying to lind a helping hand
[07:06] <Nihil85> dabaR, so, what should i do?
[07:06] <KRavEN> also would like it to notify me if there are kernel updates
[07:06] <dabaR> Nihil85: well, you could fix it...
[07:06] <corin_777> concept10, noooo!!!   oh, well, thanks for all your help!
[07:06] <nalioth> linukso: january, it's coming in january
[07:07] <Nihil85> dabaR, i will be thankful to you if you explain me how to fix it
[07:07] <giova90> ciao
[07:07] <Reggae> alguem fala portugues aqui?
[07:07] <trappist> !pt
[07:07] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:08] <pasta> nalioth: i use apt-get
[07:08] <linukso> nalioth: found it :), wonder how expensive it will be... iBooks are cheap.
[07:08] <dabaR> Nihil85: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4570 then rerun pppoeconf, and thereon, when you boot it works.
[07:10] <mrverbose> hi, is there an mplayer package for ubuntu?
[07:10] <mrverbose> i havent found any yet
[07:10] <nalioth> pasta: in your terminal, type "apt-cache search libsdl" and find the one that ends in -dev to install
[07:10] <dabaR> ubotu: tell mrverbose about mplayer
[07:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mrverbose about mplayer
[07:10] <dabaR> pah
[07:10] <dabaR> nalioth: you have macros.
[07:10] <pasta> nalioth: ive isntalled it yet
[07:10] <Nihil85> dabaR, i've called you on private
[07:10] <pasta> mrverbose: take the debian packages
[07:10] <pasta> type marillat in google to find the source
[07:11] <marlun> Whats the advantages of gnome vs. kde?
[07:11] <mrverbose> pasta: the debian packages wouldnt install
[07:11] <sambagirl> what is the commnad for deleting a directory from /var/www/
[07:11] <mrverbose> due to unresolved dependencies
[07:11] <pasta> mrverbose, y?
[07:11] <sambagirl> i was reading install directions and what you all told me they had in there ;).
[07:11] <mrverbose> i already tried that howto
[07:11] <sambagirl> except they say make directory or mkdir html
[07:11] <pasta> mrverbose: you can compile from source
[07:12] <mrverbose> pasta: if i would want to compile all the good stuff myself i'd have sticked with gentoo
[07:12] <emlprime> greetings all
[07:12] <dabaR> marlun: use google, or visit gnome.org, and kde.com|org whatever it is... this is not a good place to ask.
[07:12] <emlprime> I have a question about laptop touchpads, if anyone here has some knowledge in that area
[07:13] <joachim_> why doesn't this work: sudo gedit /etc/fstab &
[07:13] <marlun> dabaR, well okey I guess it could end up in a wild discussion?
[07:13] <lingoist> dabaR: fixres worked...thanks!
[07:14] <dabaR> lingoist: welcome.
[07:14] <dabaR> marlun: no, just noone knows.
[07:14] <emlprime> I installed Breezy on my sister's laptop, which all went well, with the exception of her touchpad
[07:14] <emlprime> it seems that every time you move it, it sends a 'scroll up' signal
[07:14] <nalioth> marlun: join #freenode and ask that question in there
[07:15] <dabaR> joachim_: remove the space before the & likely.
[07:15] <emlprime> I wondered if someone could point me to a howto or something
[07:15] <marlun> nalioth, why? =P
[07:15] <ParTas> ho have win4lin
[07:15] <ParTas> ?
[07:15] <emlprime> I've done a fair bit of searching, but not sure what I'm looking for
[07:15] <nalioth> marlun: because this channel is not for heated discussion
[07:15] <joachim_> dabaR, nope, doesn't work either
[07:16] <marlun> nalioth, hehe ok
[07:16] <nalioth> marlun: you may also join #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic and discuss
[07:16] <trappist> joachim_: why the & ?
[07:16] <dabaR> joachim_: do you get asked for a password?
[07:17] <nalioth> trappist: suffixing an & on the end of your commands releases the terminal back to you
[07:17] <dabaR> also known as running in the backgroung.
[07:17] <dabaR> or so...
[07:18] <trappist> joachim_: does it work without the &
[07:18] <trappist> YaieVahci needs to make up his mind
[07:18] <dabaR> trappist: does it work on your computer with or without it?
[07:19] <joachim_> trappist, yes. but it blocks up my terminal
[07:19] <signbarn> what's the command to list the running processes on the command line?
[07:19] <dabaR> joachim_: hit ctrl+z, then type in bg 1
[07:19] <Rubin> cd juicer seems to do a really poor job of ogg encoding :(
[07:19] <Rubin> iv tried 2 diff computers, it outputs crap on this track for some reason
[07:20] <Rubin> anyone tried tweaking its ogg parms?
[07:20] <dabaR> Rubin: perhaps its bad encryption on the part of the copyright holder.
[07:20] <joachim_> thanks. what does ctrl+z actually do?
[07:20] <darkheart> joachim_ Stops the process.
[07:20] <Rubin> dabaR: i re-ripped with the cd player/extractor, and its much better.. ripped again using mp3 and its perfect
[07:20] <Rubin> so it seems to be an ogg problem
[07:20] <trappist> joachim_: and 'bg' backgrounds it
[07:21] <dabaR> suspends the job, giving you a job number, bg <jobNumber> puts the process in background, same as the & in the first place.
[07:21] <darkheart> joachim_ If you ctrl+z it then want to bring it back to the foreground --> fg
[07:21] <mcjerry> can anyone help me with spdif support on msi k8n mainboard.....spdif optical working in windows, video codecs working in ubuntu with no system sound at all
[07:21] <Rubin> thing is cd juicer seems to give a quality=0.5 on a scale of -1 to 10
[07:21] <Rubin> 3 is the ogg default...
[07:21] <joachim_> thanks
[07:21] <trappist> Rubin: the ogg default?
[07:21] <mcjerry> have been trying to get sound working for 3 days....can anyone help
[07:21] <trappist> what's that?
[07:21] <Rubin> trappist: according to oggenc man page
[07:21] <gigcs> i want switch langquage press button F12 Howto
[07:22] <dabaR> joachim_: http://zernike.uwinnipeg.ca/~s_liao/Courses/2941/Week10B.pdf
[07:22] <defcon4> just do the sing along song
[07:23] <defcon4> anyone in here know where i can get an iso of mac OS?
[07:23] <nalioth> defcon4: which version?
[07:24] <signbarn> does anyone know the command to list running processes on the command line?
[07:24] <dr_willis> apple has some of their OLD ones for download...
[07:24] <trappist> defcon4: dd it from your legally purchased cd
[07:24] <defcon4> THE LATEST ONE
[07:24] <defcon4> where can i get them?
[07:24] <nalioth> defcon4: you shouldnt be asking those things in here
[07:25] <defcon4> you're right
[07:25] <defcon4> thanks
[07:25] <German> hi everyone
[07:26] <tns> hi back
[07:26] <gutsohn> hi!
[07:27] <user_> sign - you mean, like top?
[07:27] <trappist> signbarn: ps
[07:27] <trappist> signbarn: ps aux
[07:27] <joachim_> what's the command to audo-mount everything in fstab?
[07:27] <German> i just installed firestarter
[07:28] <trappist> sudo mount -a
[07:28] <gutsohn> hi! when i'll watch a movie with xine. the audio is always about 3 seconds bevor the video
[07:28] <ke> Can someone tell me how to fix this one? http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4571
[07:28] <German> but seems to me that it has some problems
[07:29] <German> the message hit from xx.xx.xxx.xxx detected keep appearing
[07:29] <lingoist> hm, how can i log in as root? I never set a password before and its asking me for one
[07:29] <soundray> lingoist, enter your user password.
[07:29] <lingoist> su root ?
[07:29] <trappist> lingoist: you don't log in as root.  you use sudo
[07:29] <trappist> right nalioth? :)
[07:30] <langela> su root and the user password
[07:30] <trappist> sudo, not su
[07:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lingoist about root
[07:30] <nalioth> lingoist: su is not used in ubuntu
[07:30] <German> lingoist, you use sudo (and the command
[07:30] <lingoist> ok, is there a way to make my other hda1 (win partition) available for my "normal" user?
[07:30] <DShepherd> lingoist: you can sudo su
[07:30] <langela> server irc.ubuntu.orgactually, sudo su
[07:30] <langela> actually, sudo su
[07:30] <nalioth> lingoist: fix your permissions
[07:31] <sfsindee> lingoist: sudo passwd root  enables root.
[07:31] <nalioth> langela: DShepherd: sudo su is redundant and dangerous
[07:31] <darkheart> sudo su?
[07:31] <lingoist> well i did a chown 755 /dev/hda1
[07:31] <nalioth> langela: DShepherd: sudo -i is the preffered method for doing what you advised
[07:31] <lingoist> wrong?
[07:31] <Ph0enlx> hey, anyone here who can help me with a big kinda problem :)
[07:31] <nalioth> lingoist: wrong.
[07:31] <DShepherd> nalioth: thanks for the info
[07:31] <trappist> lingoist: you need to mount it with the right permissions, like with uid=1000
[07:31] <nalioth> lingoist: you need to fix your permissions in your fstab
[07:31] <langela> ok, sorry
[07:31] <darkheart> lingoist You probably don't want to be changing permissions on things in /dev
[07:31] <gigcs> How config Vmware error /usr/src/linux/include
[07:32] <lingoist> ok, fstab...alright...thanks :)
[07:32] <trappist> gigcs: sudo apt-get install linux-source linux-headers
[07:32] <German> DShepherd, nice sudo su hehehe
[07:32] <balzac> what's a good channel to discuss multimedia, VLC specifically/
[07:32] <balzac> ?
[07:32] <darkheart> !helpme
[07:32] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[07:33] <nalioth> balzac: #ubuntu-offtopic maybe?
[07:33] <langela> can someone help me, i've breezy but at this time a could'n configure xine, totem work fine but in xine i can see vcd, what can i do?
[07:34] <sambagirl> there are a bunch of sql types to choose from with kinaptic. i was able to make it see the setup.php but the first thing it says is open with "saying it is a php script" so i figured i needed my sql installed since it mentions it in the install section.
[07:34] <balzac> nalioth, you're uptight. i didn't ask about multimedia, i asked where to ask about multimedia
[07:34] <Ph0enlx> i have just installed ubunto for the first time, although everything seemed to be alright, when i tried to login, the system freezed, i tried several things and after that i decided to start windows again, but suddenly a .dll file has been altered / deleted or something, and for that reason windows cant start anymore
[07:34] <sambagirl> should i install all the my sql stuff?
[07:35] <trappist> balzac: that's the question he answered.
[07:35] <trappist> man.
[07:35] <Ph0enlx> sorry to throw in the question but i really need windows running
[07:35] <sambagirl> god i wish there was a vista forum..
[07:35] <Ph0enlx> could anyone help me with this?
[07:36] <Loevborg> does anyone know how to "combine threads" in a process viewer like htop / top?
[07:36] <trappist> Ph0enlx: I'm afraid this isn't the channel for it
[07:36] <darkheart> sambagirl What exactly are you doing?
[07:36] <sambagirl> i am trying to install and setup OpenEMR.
[07:36] <Ph0enlx> trappist: ok, where should i ask this question then ?
[07:36] <du_chef> does anyone know how to get realplayer or mplayer to work?? :)
[07:36] <corin_777> how can i do a search for applications, from command line?
[07:37] <trappist> Ph0enlx: there's a #windows on efnet
[07:37] <Sanne> corin_777: apt-cache search packagename
[07:37] <darkheart> Ph0enlx You might try running a repair from your Windows CD.
[07:37] <Loevborg> corey, "apt-cache search"
[07:37] <mcjerry> the S/PDIF seems to work in xmmx if choose ALSA as output plugin, then I click 'configure' and write hw:0,2 in the 'audio device-field. Then xmms plays everything through s/pdif, what do i need to do now to enable system wide sound through the spdif output?
[07:37] <corin_777> thanks Sanne
[07:37] <sambagirl> openemr is electronic medical records system that was recently made free to the medical community by the Veterans Administraion to try to get all clinics on board for easier intergration for everyone.
[07:37] <Sanne> corin_777: np :)
[07:37] <pompom> hi
[07:37] <darkheart> sambagirl Well, I don't have the instructions, does it say to install MySQL? Does it run off of that?
[07:38] <Ph0enlx> darkheat, yes but wont that delete my files.. sorry for asking the windows questions, but since ubunto managed to do this i hoped someone here knew some sort of solution :)
[07:38] <Sanne> corin_777: to get info about a certain package, when you know the name, use then: apt-cache show packagename
[07:38] <corin_777> ok
[07:38] <corin_777> thanks
[07:38] <dmoyne> hello ; with 64 bits Breezy where to get dosemu I mean with which repositry ; thanks
[07:38] <pompom> After reinstalling windows on a blank partition, when I do grub-install /dev/hda, I get  "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly"
[07:38] <darkheart> Ph0enlx I don't think Ubuntu had anything to do with it, but I don't think it will erase anything.
[07:38] <sfsindee> Ph0enix:  is your system dual boot?
[07:39] <sfsindee> i'm unclear to what exactly happened after install?
[07:39] <sambagirl> i dont know.
[07:39] <sambagirl> brb
[07:39] <Alex_BO2> come faccio a sapere in quale init sono?
[07:40] <nalioth> !info dosemu
[07:40] <ubotu> dosemu: (The Linux DOS Emulator), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.2.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 904 kB, Installed size: 2128 kB
[07:40] <nalioth> !it
[07:40] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese, Grazie...
[07:40] <Ph0enlx> darkheart / sfsindee, my system is dual boot, but this isnt the first time i used dual boot for a linux distro, altough this is the first time my windows doesnt work anymore
[07:40] <nalioth> dmoyne: read above re dosemu
[07:40] <pompom> Please, I need help !
[07:40] <Delvien> Can i run Adobe Photoshop CS 8 with wine?
[07:40] <Alex_BO2> sorry!!!i'm sorry...i confused your channel with the italian one.pardon!
[07:41] <nalioth> pompom: pleading wont help you, ask your question
[07:41] <darkheart> Alex_BO2 =P
[07:41] <trappist> Delvien: with codeweavers crossover office, a proprietary fork of wine, yes
[07:41] <sfsindee> I'm running Photoshop 7 w/wine... but thats not really answering your question.
[07:41] <sambagirl> can i try to dcc this file to a linux guru who can see if i am even on the right page with this?
[07:41] <trappist> nalioth: 12:38 <pompom> After reinstalling windows on a blank partition, when I do grub-install /dev/hda, I get  "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly"
[07:41] <dmoyne>  ubotu ; which repositry to set to get access to this version that I need
[07:41] <ubotu> dmoyne: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[07:41] <mcjerry> can someone help with a prob?
[07:41] <du_chef> does anyone know how to get realplayer or mplayer to work?? :)
[07:41] <pluffsy> I think I've done nothing, but maybe I installed some package. Anyway since a few weeks I just get a text prompt instead of the graphical login when I start ubuntu 5.10. when I type startx it goes into xfce. any ideas how I can get the graphical login to work?
[07:41] <darkheart> sambagirl Text file? You could paste it in pastebin
[07:41] <pluffsy> (I want to get into gnome)
[07:42] <sambagirl> whta is a www.pastebin.com ?
[07:42] <nalioth> dmoyne: it's in multiverse
[07:42] <sambagirl> somethign like that?
[07:42] <sfsindee> du_chef:  what errors  are u getting trying to run mplayer or realplayer?
[07:42] <NightVision> do you need a swap partition for hibernate to work?
[07:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sambagirl about paste
[07:42] <Delvien> trappist is crossover hard to install/compile?
[07:42] <dmoyne>  nalioth : but I have multiverse set in my repositry and synaptic does not propose it for download !
[07:43] <trappist> Delvien: no, but it's not free
[07:43] <NightVision> crossover is easy to install
[07:43] <nalioth> dmoyne: open a console, and type "sudo apt-get build-dep dosemu"
[07:43] <lingoist> is it recommended to read that book (Ubuntu Linux, m. DVD-ROM - Michael Kofler) or are there better sources?
[07:43] <nalioth> dmoyne: then type "sudo apt-get -b source dosemu"
[07:43] <nalioth> dmoyne: after that is done, you'll find a dosemu deb in your current directory
[07:43] <pompom> hm
[07:43] <lingoist> or is it just explaining OpenOffice?
[07:44] <Delvien> trappist aye, getting demo now
[07:44] <sambagirl> how neat
[07:44] <sambagirl> i just did the pastebin thingy
[07:44] <pluffsy> can I somehow get startx to try to start gnome instead of xfce instead?
[07:44] <nalioth> sambagirl: we need the URL to the pastebin
[07:45] <Urthmover> what is everyone's favorite ubuntu irc client?
[07:45] <dducko> xchat
[07:45] <jbroome> irssi+screen
[07:45] <darkheart> Urthmover BitchX
[07:45] <sfsindee> gaim
[07:45] <Alex> Haha
[07:45] <sambagirl> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4573
[07:45] <NightVision> xchat
[07:45] <Alex> A different one from each person, that's cool.
[07:45] <Urthmover> lol yeah alex
[07:45] <jbroome> or, irssi_proxy+screen+xchat
[07:45] <nalioth> Alex: and they didnt even start naming the majority
[07:45] <trappist> wine + mIRC
[07:45] <Sanne> xchat
[07:45] <Alex> Oh my gosh, it's trappist! :o
[07:46] <darkheart> sambagirl Yeah, sounds like you need to install MySQL if you haven't.
[07:46] <sambagirl> that is very very cool
[07:46] <darkheart> lol @ trappist
[07:46] <Urthmover> well I wish I could turn off the file menu and everything and just have a chat window with my little textbar only
[07:46] <Alex> trappist: Guess who ;P
[07:46] <trappist> Alex: hauntedunix? ;)
[07:46] <Alex> trappist: Clevar. I thought you were a debianite? ;P
[07:46] <sambagirl> should i use kynaptic or synaptic?
[07:47] <Delvien> trappist i downloaded a .sh file know how to install it?
[07:47] <trappist> Alex: I'm running 3 different distros atm, but slowly migrating to ubuntu
[07:47] <darkheart> sambagirl If you are running gnome -> synaptic, kde -> kynaptic
[07:47] <trappist> Delvien: sudo sh file.sh
[07:47] <Alex> trappist: Cool :) It was the distribution of choice recently at a local LUG install day 8)
[07:47] <trappist> cool
[07:48] <Delvien> trappist thanks
[07:48] <pluffsy> pretty please? doesn't anyone have any idea what I can do to get into gnome or get the graphical login to work? I've checked syslog but not sure what to look for. it says something about gconfd but it doesn't seem to be errors. it just says some stuff are read-only and some write.
[07:48] <trappist> pluffsy: /etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:49] <nalioth> sambagirl: are you using kubuntu?
[07:49] <sambagirl> yrd
[07:49] <sambagirl> yes
[07:49] <nalioth> sambagirl: then use adept
[07:49] <sambagirl> i am trying to decide what of mysql i need.
[07:49] <sambagirl> adept?
[07:50] <nalioth> sambagirl: adept is the pkg manager in breezy kubuntu
[07:50] <bubba>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY poopybutt
[07:50] <sambagirl> oh i dont have breezy
[07:50] <darkheart> bubba I guess you should change that now.
[07:50] <balzac> hello again
[07:50] <sambagirl> i am using hoary
[07:50] <joh> bubba: hehe
[07:50] <bubba> darkheart, crap...
[07:50] <nalioth> sambagirl: then kynaptic is fine
[07:50] <sambagirl> ok
[07:50] <bubba> stupid space!
[07:50] <darkheart> bubba I like the password though.
[07:50] <pluffsy> trappist: it says it's not the default display manager. I've installed the kbuntu packages too.
[07:50] <trappist> pluffsy: kdm then
[07:51] <paxmaster> how could I find out how much my type hold can
[07:51] <paxmaster> hold
[07:51] <pluffsy> trappist: it says "Only root wants to run kdm already running"
[07:51] <trappist> balzac: some people think it's a good idea to give people a chance to forget your nick after insulting ops and leaving in a huff, before coming back
[07:51] <trappist> pluffsy: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[07:51] <trappist> paxmaster: huh?
[07:52] <nalioth> trappist: who'd he insult?
[07:52] <trappist> nalioth: you
[07:52] <Delvien> trappist its telling me '$HOME' must exist and belong to you in order for the installation to proceed you may need to log in as root or use su rather than use sudo.. I tried all three methods none work
[07:52] <nalioth> trappist: hmm, i dont feel insulted
[07:52] <darkheart> lol
[07:52] <trappist> 12:34 <balzac> nalioth, you're uptight. i didn't ask about multimedia, i asked where to ask about multimedia
[07:52] <nalioth> Delvien: use "sudo -i"
[07:52] <paxmaster> how could i find out, how much my type drive can hold
[07:52] <paxmaster> in size
[07:52] <trappist> paxmaster: what is a type drive?
[07:52] <paxmaster> GB
[07:53] <jbroome> paxmaster: df -h
[07:53] <paxmaster> is a type drive to do my backup
[07:53] <darkheart> tape drive
[07:53] <Delvien> The DISPLAY variable is not set.  You should either login to as root or use the command "su" with no flags, to make sure setup has an X display to use.
[07:53] <trappist> OH
[07:53] <|sam|> Hi, can anyone tell me the terminal commands to lock-screen and logout in gnome please?
[07:53] <paxmaster> df -h don't work on /dev/st0
[07:53] <gearry> I am having trouble using minicom to access a serial console on another device
[07:53] <Delvien> trappist see that?
[07:53] <pluffsy> trappist: "Starting kdm already running" then nothing. If I after that type startx I still get into xfce.
[07:53] <trappist> Delvien: yes
[07:54] <nalioth> Delvien: use sudo -i to get a superuser terminal
[07:54] <trappist> pluffsy: try 'restart' instead of start then
[07:54] <darkheart> |sam| Well, you have to choose one or the other: Either lock the screen or log out, can't do both.
[07:54] <Delvien> nalioth im in sudo-i
[07:54] <paxmaster> pluffsy: do xwmconfig
[07:54] <trappist> Delvien: export DISPLAY=:0
[07:54] <|sam|> darkheart; i want to know both commands, not do both at same time :)
[07:54] <gearry> I had used seyon on debian in the past, but minicom is supported on ubuntu so I thought I would give it a shot
[07:55] <cam_> hello! how do i get the applications run with wine to show up in the "start menu"..?
[07:55] <balzac> trappist, i've never been scolded before for asking where to ask about something.
[07:55] <pluffsy> trappist: stopping kdm, starting kdm. then nothing. if I typed startx I get into xfce. :/
[07:55] <darkheart> |sam| They aren't related. To lock your screen it's probably 'xscreensaver-command -lock'
[07:55] <pluffsy> paxmaster: alright. thanks. I'll try that
[07:55] <paxmaster> welcome
[07:55] <shutdownrunner> cam_:use crossover office
[07:55] <trappist> pluffsy: your kdm seems busticated
[07:55] <|sam|> darkheart; and the command to end a gnome session?
[07:56] <cam_> shutdownrunner: instead of wine..?
[07:56] <Delvien> Setup requires an X display to run.  There is a display variable set, however you have no permissions to access the X server (:0) it points to. Try running xhost +localhost before su'ing to root.
[07:56] <darkheart> |sam| Dunno =)
[07:56] <cam_> shutdownrunner: i'm somewhat a newbie...
[07:56] <shutdownrunner> cam_: yeah. it installs apps to manu. I don't think that wine can do this, yet
[07:56] <darkheart> |sam| Never used command line to shut down X
[07:56] <pluffsy> paxmaster: hmm I get command not found on that. should I try to install that package?
[07:57] <|sam|> darkheart; ahh well the screen lock works so im halfway there :) thx
[07:57] <shutdownrunner> cam_:but crossover is commercial. you can always get a 30-day-trial version
[07:57] <cam_> shutdownrunner: ah, ok. and i can get crossoveroffice with apt-get..?
[07:57] <pluffsy> trappist: hmm alright. any ideas what to do?
[07:57] <paxmaster> yeah
[07:57] <darkheart> |sam| Np =) If you want a quick hack, you can do ctrl+alt+backspace to shutdown your X session.
[07:57] <Nallic> is there a way to break out of the installer and see why installation has stopped ? - its in 2nd stage install and has stopped after "installed foomagic-db-engine"
[07:57] <cam_> shudownrunner: hm, that's what i thought
[07:57] <blackhat> When I try to run wine it says it wants freetype fonts.. what should I do once there installed?
[07:57] <darkheart> |sam| Doesn't save anything though, but if you are running a display manager, it will take you back to the log in screen.
[07:57] <Nallic> Alt-F* is not active it seems
[07:57] <shutdownrunner> cam_:no there's a trial package available on their website. it's a sh package. just download it and run it
[07:58] <pluffsy> trappist: can I somehow make gdm my default display manager again?
[07:58] <pluffsy> if kdm is the problem
[07:58] <|sam|> darkheart; i just wanna make 2 icons on my desktop, one to lock screen and the other to log out, with my own icons
[07:58] <cam_> shutdownrunner: but that'll stop working after 30 days?
[07:58] <blackhat> Wine wants me to enable truetype fonts, how can I do this
[07:58] <darkheart> |sam| System -> logout isn't good enough? ;)
[07:58] <Delvien> cam_ yeah i m having trouble installing the damn thing
[07:58] <Urthmover> how do I turn on my Super(windows key)+R to open up a terminal window?
[07:58] <nalioth> blackhat: there is a wine fonts package i believe
[07:58] <paxmaster> looks like ubuntu don't have xwmconfig
[07:58] <Delvien> trappist any ideas?
[07:58] <blackhat> nalioth i looked
[07:59] <balzac> maybe i shouldn't take it as a scolding to be referred to #ubuntu-offtopic but it's a common courtesy to be able to ask in one place what would be a good place to go for something else.
[07:59] <cam_> Delvien: wine or crossoveroffice?
[07:59] <balzac> anyway, bye
[07:59] <shutdownrunner> cam_: you can always add programs to menu manually and use them with wine sth like: wine '/home/cam_/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Photoshop/Photoshop.exe'
[07:59] <Delvien> cam_ crosseveroffice
[07:59] <|sam|> darkheart; nope lol, its the last thing i want then i will be set up just how i want
[07:59] <Urthmover> does anyone know how to map windows key+R to start a terminal session?
[07:59] <alexLondon> hello
[07:59] <blackhat> brb
[07:59] <pluffsy> paxmaster: anything else I should use instead?
[07:59] <alexLondon> anyone in London?
[07:59] <|sam|> <--- not in London
[08:00] <cam_> shutdownrunner: yeah, i got dc++ to start that way, but how do i actually add it?
[08:00] <darkheart> |sam| If you can find where the gnome menu is reading it's data from, you might have a better clue.
[08:00] <shutdownrunner> cam_: you're using gnome or kde?
[08:00] <cam_> shutdownrunner: gnome
[08:01] <blackhat> Wine cannot find the FreeType font library.  To enable Wine to
[08:01] <blackhat> use TrueType fonts please install a version of FreeType greater than
[08:01] <blackhat> or equal to 2.0.5.
[08:01] <blackhat> http://www.freetype.org
[08:01] <|sam|> darkheart; yeah i wish i could really see whats going on under the surface
[08:01] <dmoyne> hello : I am back on 64 bits ; I tried "sudo apt-get build-dep dosemu" and I collected an error message : noway to find dosemu package !!!!
[08:01] <shutdownrunner> cam_:so install some gnome-menu editor
[08:01] <nalioth> blackhat: please read the /topic  (no pasting please)
[08:01] <nalioth> blackhat: AH you want the freetype2 package
[08:01] <cam_> shutdownrunner: aha! didn't know there was such a thing! :)
[08:01] <blackhat> Yeah.
[08:01] <blackhat> and wine wants me to enable it on it also...
[08:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cam_ about smeg
[08:01] <shutdownrunner> cam_:e.g. smeg in ubuntu rep
[08:01] <Nallic> my ubuntu installer has stopped... is there a way to get behind the scenes and figure out why ?
[08:01] <du_chef> some sweds here??
[08:02] <emlprime> Urthmover: oooh I know this one
[08:02] <shutdownrunner> cam_:and add a new menu item with wine 'path/to/your/program.exe'
[08:02] <darkheart> Nallic Are you using a graphical install program?
[08:02] <cam_> du_chef: ja
[08:02] <emlprime> Urthmover: it's in preferences
[08:02] <nalioth> Nallic: did the disc pass an integrity check?
[08:02] <emlprime> Urthmover: keyboard shortcuts --> Start Terminal
[08:02] <nalioth> cam_: read your priv msg from ubotu
[08:02] <dr_willis> Nallic,  alt-ctrl-F1 through F6 may show some info
[08:02] <bubba> grrr... how do I change my password? it wont let me. has someone changed it for me?
[08:02] <blackhat> nalioth, what should I do, I found a *.gz of freetype that I could probably install.
[08:02] <emlprime> Urthmover: I have mine on Ctrl+Shift+t
[08:02] <du_chef> cam_: har du lust att hjlpa mig??
[08:02] <nalioth> bubba: if you've lost it, visit #freenode
[08:02] <IcemanV9> dmoyne:  qemu? you might want to try it.
[08:02] <shutdownrunner> cam_: Ich weiss nicht ob es andere solche Programme gibt,aber smeg ist ganz gut
[08:02] <blackhat> should I install it in my 32 bit chroot or my regular terminal, (im using 32 bit chroot for wine)
[08:02] <nalioth> blackhat: freetype2 is in the repos
[08:03] <paxmaster> pluffsy: do apt-get remove kdm
[08:03] <cam_> du_chef: tyvrr r jag nybrjare s jag vet inte vilken mn jag kan gra det
[08:03] <bubba> Nali0ths, not lost, posted in this forum by accident (leading space).
[08:03] <nalioth> blackhat: install freetype2
[08:03] <paxmaster> pluffsy: do apt-get install kdm
[08:03] <dmoyne>  nalioth : I am back on 64 bits ; I tried "sudo apt-get build-dep dosemu" and I collected an error message : noway to find dosemu package !!!!
[08:03] <Nallic> darkheart, no, dialog based
[08:03] <pluffsy> paxmaster: alright. thanks.
[08:03] <dmoyne>  IcemanV9 : what is this ?
[08:03] <blackhat> I get an error nalioth
[08:03] <du_chef> cam_:d r vi tv.. har du ftt igng realplayer??
[08:03] <blackhat> 1 second, let me get up pastebin
[08:03] <cam_> shutdownrunner: ich kann eigentlig nicht Deutch sprechen but I understood that much. vielen dank!
[08:03] <nalioth> dmoyne: open your sources.list and enable source repos
[08:03] <blackhat> nalioth ; http://pastebin.com/430694
[08:03] <Nallic> nalioth, it did not fail at least.. i did not get an choice of bad sector test.. but i suspect some bad sectors are present
[08:04] <shutdownrunner> cam_I misread it. I thought you were from Switzerland:)
[08:04] <stephan_> test
[08:04] <nalioth> cam_: shutdownrunner: bitte sprechen sie deutsch in #ubuntu-de
[08:04] <shutdownrunner> cam: I can say Jag ar shutdownrunner:)
[08:04] <bubba> >NickServ< identify ****
[08:04] <bubba> -NickServ- Password Incorrect
[08:04] <dmoyne>  nalioth : you mean edit directly not trhough synaptic ?
[08:04] <nalioth> dmoyne: however you wish to accomplish it
[08:04] <cam_> shutdownrunner: hahah, das ist aber gut :)
[08:04] <IcemanV9> dmoyne:  qemu is similiar to dosemu, but better. i have used it with ubuntu, freebsd & winxp.
[08:04] <shutdownrunner> cam_:I'm Polish. not German
[08:04] <Delvien> The DISPLAY variable is not set.  You should either login to as root or use the command "su" with no flags, to make sure setup has an X display to use.
[08:04] <r0d> when I logon from gdm, i get " error: icon not found" everytime. whats the prob?
[08:05] <Nallic> dr_willis: alt-ctrl-F is not active.. its just completely stalled :/
[08:05] <Delvien> im as root and i have set X
[08:05] <bubba> so... how do I change my password on freenode ?
[08:05] <cam_> shutdownrunner: ok! sorry. and the bot told me to not speak german so i'll quit now ;)
[08:05] <nalioth> blackhat: i smell non ubuntu pkgs on your system
[08:05] <dmoyne>  IcemanV9 : I'll try later thanks
[08:05] <blackhat> nalioth, I installed Freetype2 now, but wine wants me to enable it
[08:05] <Nallic> is there a way to make a bad block test during installation of ubunto ?
[08:05] <du_chef> cam_: d r vi tv.. har du ftt igng realplayer??
[08:05] <blackhat> how can I do this when there is no wineconfig?
[08:05] <gigcs> VMware Workstation is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured
[08:05] <gigcs> for the running kernel. To (re-)configure it, invoke the
[08:05] <gigcs> following command: /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl.
[08:05] <nalioth> du_chef: english in here, please
[08:05] <gigcs> VMware Workstation is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured
[08:05] <gigcs> for the running kernel. To (re-)configure it, invoke the
[08:05] <gigcs> following command: /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl.
[08:06] <dmoyne>  nalioth : I have the "sources.list" in front of me
[08:06] <Seveas> du_chef english please
[08:06] <du_chef> damn... its easier in your own tounge
[08:07] <Seveas> du_chef, there are localized channels
[08:07] <du_chef> or whatever
[08:07] <cam_> du_chef: i private msged you
[08:07] <du_chef> are there...
[08:07] <Seveas> du_chef, sounded like danish or swedish, try #ubuntu-dk or #ubuntu.se
[08:08] <du_chef> cam_: i dont see it... i must be blind.. =)
[08:08] <darkheart> du_chef Maybe your nick isn't registered.
[08:09] <cam_> du_chef: try private messaging me then. maybe i have better eyes :)
[08:09] <nalioth> du_chef: cam_ you need to both be registerd to priv msg each other
[08:10] <cam_> irc wasn't this hard in the old days as i remember it...
[08:10] <Seveas> cam_, there were spambots in here recently
[08:10] <Seveas> they had to take this measure
[08:10] <nalioth> cam_: script kiddies have sent thousands of spambots into freenode
[08:10] <nalioth> cam_: this is the result
[08:11] <cam_> ok. :) spam wasn't a huge problem in the old days either )
[08:12] <dmoyne>  nalioth : I have enabled all deb-src by removing # ; is this what you meant ?
[08:12] <darkheart> that's because only 2 people had the Internet =P
[08:12] <cid> Today after a reboot my samba server doesn't work anymore. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling. Could anyone help me, please?
[08:12] <du_chef> cam_: try right click on my name in the list and x-chat.. that maybe works.. =)
[08:13] <cid> I have also tried "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart" but it says that it fails.
[08:14] <heien> Hi all. I have a question. In the Breeze badger version of Ubuntu the "run box" has disappeared from the gnome menu. How do i get it back?
[08:14] <cam_> du_chef: nah, it doesn't seem to work. but anyway i'm not sure how much i'd be able to help. i don't like realplayer for starters so that's one thing i have no experience from.
[08:14] <nalioth> dmoyne: yes, now update your apt-get (reload in synaptic)
[08:14] <soundray> heien, would Alt-F2 solve your problem?
[08:15] <soundray> cid, any other clues from the error message?
[08:15] <heien> Soundray, your the man ;D
[08:15] <dmoyne>  nalioth : I did but I do not see dosemu proposed after this !!!!
[08:15] <CarlFK> last week my scanner worked, today I get "[snapscan]  Cannot open firmware file /path/to/your/firmware/file.bin." -what's going on?
[08:16] <cid> I haven't got any error messages. If your talking about some system logs or something I wouldn't know where to look, I'm afraid.
[08:16] <nalioth> dmoyne: amd64 is not very user friendly when it comes to commercial or patented software
[08:16] <nalioth> dmoyne: in your console, type "sudo apt-get build-dep dosemu"
[08:16] <bubba> how do I find out who changed my password on freenode for me?
[08:17] <danderson_> Hello all, I have a small script I am trying to use for backup - I would like to run it from roots cron. When I try and test the script by running #>sudo scriptname I get permission denied
[08:17] <dmoyne> IcemanV9 : are you sure Qemu is a DOS emulator
[08:17] <nalioth> bubba: join #freenode and ask them. they control the horizontal and vertical hold here
[08:17] <nalioth> dmoyne: qemu is a OS emulator
[08:17] <dmoyne>  nalioth : I get this : Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
[08:17] <dmoyne> Construction de l'arbre des dpendances... Fait
[08:17] <dmoyne> E: Impossible de trouver une source de paquet pour dosemu
[08:17] <bubba> Nali0ths_dog, I tried. but i have no voice.
[08:17] <bubba> * #freenode :Cannot send to channel
[08:18] <nalioth> bubba: you wait like the rest of us. they'll give you voice in a few minutes (thanks to the spambots, they do it that way)
[08:19] <nalioth> dmoyne: in your terminal, type "sudo apt-get -b source dosemu"
[08:19] <ficusplanet> Hey everyone.  Is there a way to install Ubuntu without using a CD or DVD?  My laptop doesn't have an optical drive.
[08:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ficusplanet about smartboot
[08:19] <funkyHat> what file defines keyboard maps? i want to map the extra keys on my keyboard
[08:19] <bubba> nalioth, its been a while... prolly atleast 10 minutes...
[08:20] <funkyHat> (the global X one, not one in my ~)
[08:20] <nalioth> bubba: patience, sometimes i have to wait a long time
[08:20] <soundray> cid, there may be relevant messages in /var/log/syslog and in /var/log/samba/
[08:20] <dmoyne>  nalioth : same error message translated from French into English : "dosemu package does not exist !
[08:20] <scapor> Is it known wish is broken in dapper though it's not likely to be wish's fault as wish wasn't upgraded but more likely to be an X problem ?  I get:  Application initialization failed: this isn't a Tk applicationinvalid color name "#efebe7 "  (mind the space!)
[08:20] <danderson_> I have set the perms on the file to 777, but still get permission denied
[08:20] <nalioth> dmoyne: then you have your repositories incorrect, for i just did what i'm asking you to do and dosemu came down just fine
[08:21] <dmoyne>  nalioth : you are with 64 bits distro ?
[08:21] <nalioth> dmoyne: it does not matter what distro you are using, the source will build on any platform. i am on a powermac
[08:21] <ficusplanet> nalioth, No floppy drive either.  Is there any form of network install or anything?
[08:22] <nalioth> ficusplanet: join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:22] <r0d> when I logon from gdm, i get " error: icon not found" everytime. whats the prob?
[08:22] <joh> r0d: an icon wasn't found ;)
[08:22] <dmoyne>  nalioth : hoops so then I will try with my sources.list from 32 bit copied back into 64 bits !
[08:22] <r0d> ahh yes..
[08:23] <ficusplanet> nalioth, How is installing ubuntu off topic?
[08:23] <soundray> nalioth, I'd like an answer to that too -- it's not very far off topic, is it?
[08:23] <r0d> it sucks :(
[08:23] <joh> r0d: it's probably from some launchers on your desktop or panel
[08:23] <aris> hi
[08:24] <nalioth> soundray: this channel is very busy and the answers can fly off the screen quickly. thats why i'm in -offtopic
[08:25] <bubba> so... still no help with my freenode password issue... maybe someone can help me with yahoo webpages not working.... (both konqueror, and firefox).
[08:25] <soundray> ficusplanet, pls meet me on #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:26] <ficusplanet> soundray, already there
[08:26] <snausages> how long do the shipit CDs take to get to Florida? can anyone give me an estimate?
[08:26] <bubba> I think ive installed (synaptic) flash, java, but games.yahoo.com still wont work. says java isnt enabled (I checked both, enabled...)
[08:26] <danderson_> anyone - got any info on the script execution?
[08:27] <nalioth> bubba: we cannot help you in here with your password, you are gonna have to wait in #freenode and ask them
[08:27] <dmoyne> nalioth : can you mail me your "sources.list" in order for me to check what is wrong with mine (I do not think I can receive with Kopete but try first if not working dmoyne@tiscali.fr) ; thanks
[08:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dmoyne about sources
[08:28] <ompaul> danderson_, if it is in your home directory you will need to do >>./scriptname<< Dot Slash scriptname or >>sh scriptname<<
[08:28] <bubba> nalioth, yes. I understand, im still waiting in #freenode, with 2 sessions, and usernames... still no help there. thats why I thought, hey, why dont i ask about my original problem (you know, why I came in here half an hour ago!)
[08:29] <danderson_> ompaul: yes, I am actually testing it with #sudo ./backup.bsh
[08:29] <coz> hell all
[08:29] <nalioth> bubba: why are there in another session?
[08:29] <coz>  I have just downloaded O&O defrag for linux in a .deb file
[08:29] <coz> How do I use this, anyone?
[08:29] <NoUse> coz you don't really need to defrag linux
[08:30] <nalioth> coz: there is no fragmentation in linux
[08:30] <ompaul> coz O&O what is that?
[08:30] <bubba> nalioth, because i can. because i have the password working for that one. why is it important?
[08:30] <coz> I understand but I use O&O on windows and want to try their linux version
[08:30] <danderson_> ompaul: I get sudo: unable to execute ./backup.bsh: Permission denied
[08:30] <coz> what do i do with this .deb download?
[08:30] <nalioth> bubba: why dont you have your nicks linked?
[08:30] <Grasshopper> ja;lfjk
[08:30] <nalioth> coz: linux has no fragmentation
[08:30] <ompaul> cos if you don't need to change the wheel on  a car would you? rm that.deb
[08:31] <bubba> nalioth, because im trying ubuntu linux, and i want to play games on yahoo games.
[08:31] <coz> Ok guys I understand that now what do I do with this .deb donwloaded package?
[08:31] <nalioth> bubba: that has nothing to do with linking your nicknames on freenode
[08:31] <ompaul> danderson_, care to put that backup.bsh onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:31] <bubba> nalioth, i understand. do you.
[08:31] <nalioth> coz: either rm it or install it
[08:31] <paxmaster> how could I do the backup with tar -L option instead of doing it with cat
[08:31] <coz> Hey Cosmodad italian or greek?
[08:32] <NoUse> !deb
[08:32] <ubotu> deb is, like, totally, To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[08:32] <danderson_> ompaul: not at all, but I am not sure how to do it
[08:32] <nalioth> bubba: i do not. but to each their own
[08:32] <cid> I can't start anyting that needs root, synaptic for instance. I dialog comes up and says: "Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root: Unable to copy the user's Xauhtourization file."
[08:32] <coz> Ok thanks
[08:32] <nalioth> cid: there is no root account enabled
[08:32] <Ph0enlx> could anyone help me with a problem, i installed linux next to windows, i created different partitions and installed the boot loader, but now i cant start windows anymore. sorry that this is more a windows specific question, but the problem came because of ubunto so i hoped that somebody could help me with it:)
[08:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell cid about root
[08:32] <gnocchi> hi
[08:32] <bubba> nalioth, what im saying, is im trying to play some games on yahoo, but i cnat seem to using ubuntu. thats what I want to do... not do irc.
[08:33] <ompaul> danderson_, copy and paste hightlight right click in terminal and left click to paste in the url I just gave you http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:33] <nalioth> bubba: i'm still trying to figure out your freenode password thing
[08:33] <cid> nalioth: So today, suddenly, I need a root account?
[08:33] <bubba> sadly due to a stupid space at the beginning of a line, I now have to deal with freenode password.
[08:33] <dmoyne> nalioth : same problem with the example you have just supplied after installing this sources.list I still cannot see dosemu proposed I think I know the reason it may be in hoary then when you update in breezy you see it but it is a hoary package !!!!
[08:33] <nalioth> cid: no you do not.
[08:33] <nalioth> dmoyne: watch ubotu
[08:34] <gnocchi> uhm can anyone help me?
[08:34] <nalioth> !info dosemu hoary
[08:34] <nalioth> !info dosemu breezy
[08:34] <dell500> !info cedega
[08:34] <ubotu> dosemu: (The Linux DOS Emulator), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.2.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 904 kB, Installed size: 2128 kB
[08:34] <dell500> !info dell500 cedega
[08:34] <ubotu> dosemu: (The Linux DOS Emulator), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 1.2.1-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 904 kB, Installed size: 2128 kB
[08:34] <Agrajag> cedega isn't in the repositories.
[08:34] <AMD_XP> having some hardware issues
[08:34] <nalioth> dmoyne: it is in both hoary and breezy.
[08:34] <Chousuke> dosemu is nice :P
[08:34] <gnocchi> me too
[08:35] <Chousuke> a bit difficult to use though,.
[08:35] <nalioth> dell500: what kind of command was that?
[08:35] <AMD_XP> installed freezes at 54% on gettext-base
[08:35] <dell500> no idea :)
[08:35] <bubba> could someone can help me with yahoo webpages not working.... (both konqueror, and firefox).
[08:35] <soundray> AMD_XP, ahh, fingerprint :)
[08:35] <dell500> can you just do apt-get install cedega??
[08:35] <NoUse> bubba maybe you need flash?
[08:35] <nalioth> dell500: you cannot
[08:36] <thrice`> dell500, it's not free software
[08:36] <dell500> oh
[08:36] <danderson_> ompaul:  I think I have posted it
[08:36] <gnocchi> can anyone tell me how to get my network connection working?
[08:36] <bubba> I think in installed flash (synaptic)
[08:36] <NoUse> gnocchi do you use DHCP?
[08:36] <gnocchi> yup
[08:36] <gnocchi> linksys wrt54g
[08:36] <dell500> does the CVS version work well with breezy?
[08:36] <NoUse> gnocchi does it not get an IP from the server?
[08:37] <thrice`> dell500, if you want to try and build it, feel free
[08:37] <gnocchi> no it doesn't even get a connection, i think it's not installed
[08:37] <NoUse> !tell dell500 about cedega
[08:37] <dell500> hmmm
[08:37] <NoUse> gnocchi does an ethernet device show up in network settings?
[08:37] <dell500> so there is no other way to play Counter-strike source
[08:37] <AMD_XP> I have a EP-8KTA3Pro EPOX mohterboard
[08:37] <gnocchi> network setting hangs
[08:37] <AMD_XP> motherboard
[08:37] <thrice`> dell500, ask google some of these things
[08:38] <gnocchi> doesn't show anything
[08:38] <dell500> yessum
[08:38] <NoUse> gnocchi what does ifconfig show?
[08:38] <nickrud> bubba, did you get flashplugin-nonfree
[08:38] <gnocchi> ifconfig?
[08:38] <AMD_XP> and it keeps freezing at 52%
[08:38] <NoUse> gnocchi open a terminal and run ifconfig
[08:38] <AMD_XP> brb
[08:38] <gnocchi> how?
[08:38] <gnocchi> (i'm a noob xD)
[08:38] <NoUse> gnocchi click on "Terminal" in the applicatoins menu
[08:38] <bubba> nickrud, let me search synaptic...
[08:39] <gnocchi> there's no 'terminal' there
[08:39] <coz> OK guys I tried the dpkg -i for this .deb file and get no such file or directory exists
[08:39] <nalioth> gnocchi: applications > accessoris > terminal
[08:39] <gnocchi> ah there xD
[08:39] <gnocchi> yes
[08:39] <gnocchi> got it
[08:39] <NoUse> coz then you have the wrong file name
[08:39] <coz> Ok I will try again hold on
[08:39] <nalioth> coz: or are in the wrong directory
[08:40] <CarlFK> heh - fixed my scanner: plugged it into an XP box, whidh apparently has the firmware download the scanner needed.  un plug form XP, plug into linux, all is well.
[08:40] <thrice`> coz, start the word, and push tab
[08:40] <thrice`> it'll complete it for you
[08:40] <dmoyne>  nalioth : I tried everything but noway to see doemu proposed by synaptic only xfonts-dosemu ; I give up
[08:40] <nalioth> bubba: you are voiced in #freenode now
[08:40] <gnocchi> and?
[08:40] <bubba> nickrud, I dont see that file listed...
[08:40] <bubba> nalioth, thanks... ill check that...
[08:40] <NoUse> gnocchi like I said earlier, run ifconfig
[08:40] <nickrud> bubba, you need to enable the universe & multiverse repositories
[08:40] <nickrud> !tell bubba about repos
[08:41] <gnocchi> just type ifconfig and press enter?
[08:41] <NoUse> gnocchi yes
[08:41] <nickrud> hah, that probably didn't work :)
[08:41] <gnocchi> doesn't do much
[08:41] <NoUse> gnocchi pastebin the output
[08:41] <NoUse> !tell gnocchi about pastebin
[08:41] <nickrud> bubba, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:41] <nalioth> !tell nickrud about repos
[08:41] <bubba> nalioth, yes. I just asked... thanks :)
[08:42] <nickrud> bubba, after you do that, and do an update, you should see flashplugin-nonfree
[08:43] <gnocchi> done
[08:43] <gnocchi> name = gnocchi
[08:43] <pluffsy> paxmaster, hello. remember me? :) I've now tried reinstalling both kdm and gdm. when I reinstalled kdm gdm started to work, sort of. I get to the graphical login but when I login to gnome I get the start sound but only a black background no menu or nothing. kdm still just says it starts the screen blinks and then back to the terminal.
[08:43] <gnocchi> now what?
[08:43] <bubba> nickrud, ok... will do in a few (working on freenode passwd issue first...)
[08:44] <pluffsy> paxmaster, I tried to restart between the attempts too. but nothing.
[08:44] <nickrud> bubba, np, first things first
[08:44] <NoUse> gnocchi try ifconfig -a
[08:44] <austin_> anyone feel like helping - I'm new to Linux and Ubuntu
[08:44] <nalioth> pluffsy: ubotu is gonna send you some instructions, ok? i want you to run them and choose the VESA driver
[08:44] <NoUse> austin_ ask a question
[08:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pluffsy about xcfg
[08:44] <nickrud> austin_, ask away
[08:44] <gnocchi> ah that's better
[08:44] <gnocchi> post it?
[08:44] <nalioth> gnocchi: not in here please
[08:44] <gnocchi> yeah i know xD
[08:44] <gnocchi> in pastebin
[08:45] <austin_> trying to use a FX tradng platform that requires JRE but I can't figure out how to get it running
[08:45] <pluffsy> nalioth, thanks. should I end my current xsession before I run that? or can I just open a gui terminal?
[08:45] <Stormx2> Hi sexies.
[08:45] <gnocchi> that's going to take i while, i have to type it over from my other computer
[08:45] <edlyn> hi all, please help with the update from hoary to breezy -- can i do it via network simply??? when i launch update it directs me to the website :-(
[08:45] <nickrud> austin_, do you have java yet?
[08:45] <nalioth> pluffsy: either way
[08:45] <pluffsy> thanks
[08:45] <Stormx2> edlyn: Yeah
[08:45] <austin_> I downloaded from sun
[08:45] <Stormx2> edlyn: I think its "sudo apt-get dist-update" (or possibly dist-upgrade)
[08:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell edlyn about breezy
[08:46] <nickrud> austin_, you haven't installed it yet, have you?
[08:46] <edlyn> stormx2 : cheers !!!! i'll try it like NOW!!!
[08:46] <austin_> I'm not sure!
[08:46] <austin_> I'm used to windows
[08:46] <nickrud> austin_, good!
[08:47] <nalioth> edlyn: dist-upgrade
[08:47] <Stormx2> edlyn: OK ;-)
[08:47] <edlyn> cheers nalioth
[08:47] <nickrud> austin_, go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats, look at the Java section at the bottom
[08:49] <bob_> i have no volume control
[08:49] <elektrik_> hello
[08:49] <bob_> gnome-volume-control ives bas command
[08:49] <austin_> I followed all that and it did install, but when I go to the website that requires it it can't find it
[08:49] <bob_> please help
[08:49] <clayg> anyone know the dpkg command w/ privoxy ?
[08:49] <austin_> it won't allow the program to run
[08:50] <austin_> and when I try to install the downloaded program it tells me it can't open a binary file
[08:50] <nickrud> austin_, then, do sudo update-alternatives --config java, you should see an option 3: sun java, select that.
[08:50] <pztak> i have a quick question.. i'm using a dell d600 laptop, and i just inserted the cd-drive (i had an extra battery).. now if i restart i know the cddrive will work, but right now it's not showing up as a device (/dev/hdc) doesnt exist.. how can i get the system to recognize/load it?
[08:50] <elektrik_> does anybody knows how to change the kde configuration...when kde start up the first time, i had to select the configuration type kde-unix-windows-mac, i want to select other...does anybody know how?
[08:51] <sfadler> does anyone know why kate won't open xorg.xonf?
[08:51] <Rubin> pztak: it may not be very easy to make that hot-swappable
[08:51] <NoUse> sfadler what error do you get?
[08:51] <danderson_> after checking the WEB, I think I have found my problem is that my script is on a mounted drive. When I move the scritp to my ~ directory it runs fine. If I try to execute the script from the mounted drive - it fails with the permission denied. Anyone have any ideas why this might be happening?
[08:51] <pztak> Rubin: why not?
[08:51] <elektrik_> i check all the menus but i didn't find how to change that configuration
[08:51] <austin_> no alternative
[08:51] <sfadler> NoUse: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:51] <sfadler> Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:51] <sfadler> kate: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[08:51] <sfadler> kate: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
[08:51] <sfadler> kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[08:51] <Rubin> pztak: because the people who wrote the cdrom code in linux probably didnt think about the case of hot-pluggable drives
[08:52] <NoUse> sfadler read /topic, don't paste in here
[08:52] <sfadler> NoUse: sorry
[08:52] <Rubin> pztak: i dont know for a fact, just my suspicion
[08:52] <NoUse> sfadler are you useing KDE?
[08:52] <gnocchi> NoUse: done, name = gnocchi2
[08:52] <trappist> sfadler: as your regular user, xhost +127.0.0.1
[08:52] <Rubin> ew i wouldnt do that..
[08:52] <sfadler> NoUse: yes kubuntu 5.10
[08:52] <deepwoodz> using firefox everytime i goto a page with a video on it my browser closes... can anyone help?
[08:53] <nickrud> austin_, I hate doing this, but I have a meeting coming up: I'll be back around 2:30, if you have problems. I would suggest getting the blackdown, the first option under Java on that page, then doing the update-alternatives step above
[08:53] <NoUse> sfadler might try #kubuntu for help
[08:53] <Rubin> i think theres a way to copy .Xauthority to /root
[08:53] <Rubin> that fixes it
[08:53] <trappist> NoUse: his problem isn't kde-specific
[08:53] <NoUse> gnocchi try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:53] <sfadler> NoUse: i am really just not paying attention today :/
[08:53] <sfadler> NoUse: thanks anyway
[08:53] <soundray> danderson_, what type of filesystem is the mounted volume?
[08:53] <trappist> deepwoodz: it's probably crashing
[08:53] <NoUse> trappist does KDE use gksudo or is there a qt specific wrapper?
[08:53] <Rubin> sfadler: the problem is your 'root' user doesnt have permission to connect to the display (xserver)
[08:54] <gnocchi> NoUse?
[08:54] <trappist> NoUse: it has one.  I forget what it is.
[08:54] <nickrud> austin_, about a half hour from now :)
[08:54] <deepwoodz> i know its crashing... but how can i fix it?
[08:54] <sfadler> Rubin: to fix?
[08:54] <NoUse> gnocchi yes?
[08:54] <Rubin> sfadler: so you need to get it permission somehow. trappist's way will work, but its a security risk esp if anyone else is on your system
[08:54] <trappist> kdesu
[08:54] <dell500> where should tahoma.ttf go if i'm going to install wine?
[08:54] <Rubin> sfadler: i THINK i fixed that by copying .xauthority or something from my home dir to /root
[08:54] <pztak> Rubin: i actually found a script to do it (idectl)
[08:54] <pztak> thanks though
[08:54] <dell500> is it /etc/X11/fonts/Type1/ ??
[08:54] <Rubin> pztak: good to know
[08:54] <danderson_> soundray: I have it mounting from fstab as ext3 rw,user
[08:54] <gnocchi> sudo: unable to lookup nikosUbuntu via getbyhostname()
[08:55] <gnocchi> got it?
[08:55] <NoUse> gnocchi but does it then ask for a password?
[08:55] <Rubin> sfadler: do you use sudo or su?
[08:55] <nalioth> dell500: in ~/.fonts
[08:55] <gnocchi> nope
[08:55] <sfadler> Rubin: sudo
[08:55] <dell500> nalioth, thanks
[08:55] <Rubin> sfadler: what cmdline paramiters with it?
[08:55] <NoUse> gnocchi you need to add your hostname to /etc/hosts at the end of the like with 127.0.0.1
[08:55] <sfadler> Rubin: just sudo
[08:55] <nalioth> gnocchi: nikosUbuntu  needs to go in your hosts file on the same line as 127.0.0.1 and localhost
[08:55] <dell500> nalioth, there's no .fonts dir
[08:55] <gnocchi> how do i do that?
[08:55] <nalioth> dell500: make one
[08:56] <NoUse> gnocchi sudo nano /etc/hosts
[08:56] <dell500> nalioth, will it still work?
[08:56] <nalioth> dell500: of course it will
[08:56] <gnocchi> sudo: unable to lookup nikosUbuntu via getbyhostname()
[08:56] <nalioth> dell500: mkdir ~/.fonts
[08:56] <Rubin> sfadler: try another editor just to rule out kate. maybe gedit (i just tried that and it works for me)
[08:56] <dell500> nalioth, gotcha, thanks
[08:56] <daniel_> hello
[08:56] <deepwoodz> does anyone know how to fix the video problem with totem media player? everytime I goto page on firefox with a video it crashes on me
[08:56] <thrice`> hi danderson_
[08:56] <daniel_> im having a problem with wine and Steam
[08:56] <nalioth> gnocchi: write down the instructions right now. then restart your machine in 'rescue' mode and edit that file
[08:56] <thrice`> daniel_
[08:56] <lillpelle> Hm, I made a own deb package of 0.9.7.1 version (from october) of beep-media-player, and it works good, except that apt thinks that 0.9.7.1-cvs from august is newer, what should I do?
[08:57] <daniel_> it tries to download some activex mozilal wrapper
[08:57] <daniel_> but it failsw
[08:57] <cid> Samba problem: I can connect fine with smbclient, no password needed or anything but browsing the network servers with nautilus doesn't work at all. What's wrong?
[08:57] <daniel_> fails*
[08:57] <sfadler> Rubin: ok
[08:57] <danderson_> hello thrice
[08:57] <nalioth> gnocchi: after you are done editing, immediately restart the box into regular mode
[08:57] <Rubin> lillpelle: google 'debian pinning'
[08:57] <lillpelle> Rubin: thanks, will do
[08:57] <gnocchi> what instructions?
[08:57] <daniel_> thrice`, yes?
[08:57] <thrice`> hi :)
[08:57] <NoUse> gnocchi the instructions we just gave you
[08:57] <nalioth> Rubin: why ? we have pinning here
[08:57] <nalioth> !tell lillpelle about pinning
[08:57] <gnocchi> k so the network restart thing
[08:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Rubin about pinning
[08:57] <NoUse> gnocchi no
[08:58] <NoUse> gnocchi the /etc/hosts thing
[08:58] <gnocchi> k
[08:58] <gnocchi> brb
[08:58] <nalioth> Rubin: the wiki has an article on lots of things
[08:58] <jasongrieves> is there a way to run your X server with both the XVFB and the default graphics adapter?
[08:58] <jasongrieves> together
[08:58] <Rubin> nalioth: im not the one asking
[08:58] <nalioth> Rubin: but now you know for next time someone asks
[08:58] <Rubin> nod
[08:58] <jacobkm> Hey, folks - do I have to do something "special" to make Ubuntu recognize a very large (hardware) RAID5? I've got a 3.4T array that's only showing up as 1.3 TB.
[08:59] <deepwoodz> how do i fix the video problem with totem media player? everytime I goto page using firefox with a video it crashes on me
[08:59] <djib> hello
[08:59] <djib> I'm looking for a program to create ASCII diagrams
[08:59] <Rubin> deepwoodz: you could remove the totem ff plugin and try another such as vlc
[08:59] <djib> do you know any ?
[08:59] <soundray> danderson_, does it work if you prepend the call with sh ?
[08:59] <nalioth> djib: open synaptic and search for ASCII
[08:59] <deepwoodz> ?
[09:00] <deepwoodz> how do i do that?
[09:00] <lee> jacobkm: yes, you need to distribute it, send me about 1.3TB of drives... =)
[09:00] <nalioth> danderson_: ompaul asked me to help you
[09:00] <jacobkm> lee: heh
[09:00] <aguthrie> anyone have anything to say about the rolled back xorg-synaptics package?
[09:00] <lillpelle> Rubin and nalioth: thanks a lot, that was what I wanted :)
[09:00] <lee> jacobkm: that's a pretty specific problem, I would have thought ubuntuforums.org would be your best chance of getting help with that
[09:00] <danderson_> soundray: I will try it with sh
[09:00] <maswan> jacobkm: there is a problem with >2TB for scsi, you need to make sure that all the equipment supports it
[09:00] <jacobkm> lee: I've looked and not found anything, unfortunatly
[09:00] <gnocchi> just to check again: sudo nano /etc/hosts?
[09:01] <danderson_> nalioth: I can use all the help I can get =)
[09:01] <nalioth> danderson_: join us in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:01] <jacobkm> maswan: ok, how would I check that
[09:01] <maswan> jacobkm: most raid controllers only support <=2TB volumes
[09:01] <dell500> nalioth, you have tahoma.ttf?
[09:01] <jacobkm> maswan: the controller seems to have no problem with it
[09:01] <nalioth> gnocchi: and add your hostename to the line with 127.0.0.1 and 'localhost' in them
[09:01] <nalioth> gnocchi: it'll be near the top
[09:01] <jacobkm> maswan: at least, I can manage it in the raid card's bios
[09:01] <gnocchi> k
[09:01] <maswan> jacobkm: and I think the same applies to the scsi card and drives, you also need large block devices
[09:01] <nalioth> dell500: you'll have to hunt it down on the internet, it's not a free font
[09:01] <gnocchi> sudo: unable to lookup nikosUbuntu via getbyhostname()
[09:01] <gnocchi> again
[09:01] <lee> jacobkm: like I said, that sounds like a very specific issue, I'd post there rather than asking here as way more people will see it =)
[09:02] <maswan> jacobkm: the limit might be in in the raid card's scsi-talk, not in it's management-talk
[09:02] <NoUse> gnocchi are you in rescue mode?
[09:02] <dell500> nalioth, that bites, thanks though
[09:02] <soundray> danderson_, if it does, inserting 'exec' after 'rw' in /etc/fstab may fix it.
[09:02] <jacobkm> lee, maswan: thanks, thought it was worth a shot to ask here first.
[09:02] <gnocchi> recovery mode, but i think that's the same right?
[09:02] <nalioth> gnocchi: if you are in the rescue mode, dont use sudo, just nano /etc/hosts
[09:02] <NoUse> gnocchi yeah, then don't use the sudo, sorry
[09:02] <gnocchi> k
[09:03] <maswan> jacobkm: you can make sure that large block devices is enabled in the kernel
[09:03] <jacobkm> maswan: where would I check for that? modprobe?
[09:03] <gnocchi> do i add it before or after '127.0.0.1 localhost'?
[09:03] <NoUse> gnocchi at the end of that line
[09:03] <nalioth> gnocchi: anywhere on the line will do
[09:03] <gnocchi> k
[09:03] <maswan> jacobkm: it is a kernel option, so, hmm, /proc/config.gz?
[09:04] <gnocchi> how do i save it?
[09:04] <gnocchi> writeout or just exit?
[09:04] <jacobkm> maswan: there's some lines in dmesg about loading large scsi device drivers, so it looks like it is.
[09:04] <NoUse> gnocchi Ctrl + X and it will prompt you
[09:04] <jacobkm> maswan: the partition tool in the installer recognizes the size just fine and lets me partition it
[09:04] <gnocchi> and then reboot?
[09:04] <NoUse> gnocchi yes
[09:05] <bob_> Failed to start Volume Control: Failed to execute child process "gnome-volume-control" (No such file or directory)
[09:05] <maswan> jacobkm: oh, interesting. but it does not come up after the first reboot+
[09:05] <bob_> does anyone know how to fix that
[09:05] <edlyn> stormx2 : sorry mate doesn't work :-( says system uptodate
[09:05] <jacobkm> maswan: yes, that's correct
[09:06] <jacobkm> maswan: rather, it came up with an error about superblock sizes which fsck fixed, but now the device is 1/3 of it's actual size.
[09:06] <Stormx2> edlyn: You tried dist-upgrade?
[09:06] <maswan> jacobkm: CONFIG_LBD is the relevant option
[09:06] <austin_> how do you execute a binary file?
[09:06] <trappist> austin_: ./filename
[09:06] <phiqtion> nalioth, are you  busy?
[09:07] <austin_> I've done that
[09:07] <trappist> austin_: and
[09:07] <bob_> try chmod a+x filename to fix permissions
[09:07] <austin_> cannot execute binary file
[09:07] <bob_> austin
[09:07] <nalioth> phiqtion: nope
[09:07] <jacobkm> maswan: zcat /proc/config.gz | grep LBD shows "CONFIG_LBD=1"
[09:07] <IcemanV9> edlyn:  did you modify your source.list from hoary to breezy?? if not, then do so. :)
[09:08] <edlyn> ubotu : thanks a million ;-)
[09:08] <ubotu> pas de quoi, edlyn
[09:08] <trappist> austin_: is this a 32 bit binary and you're on 64 bit ubuntu, or vice versa?
[09:08] <lillpelle> Rubin and nalioth: hm, it still wants to upgrade. the old package is called beep-media-player-0.9.7.1+cvs... and the new one is beep-media-player-0.9.7.1-1, so I wrote Pin: version 0.9.7.1-1*, any ideas?
[09:08] <maswan> jacobkm: =1, interesting, do you know if that is the same thing as =y? :)
[09:08] <jacobkm> Sorry, I mistyped -- it is "=y"
[09:08] <austin_> I'm new Ubuntu 5.4
[09:08] <edlyn> ubotu : alors tu parles franais???
[09:08] <ubotu> edlyn: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:08] <nalioth> lillpelle: do you use synaptic?
[09:08] <edlyn> indeed!
[09:08] <IcemanV9> edlyn:  ubotu is a bot ;)
[09:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell edlyn about yourself
[09:09] <phiqtion> nalioth, i need a floppy grub installation disk
[09:09] <trappist> austin_: file filename
[09:09] <lillpelle> nalioth: right now I am using console: aptitude update and aptitude upgrade
[09:09] <phiqtion> nalioth, or cd
[09:09] <edlyn> iceman : i figured now -- geez!!!
[09:09] <gnocchi> uhm it still doesn't work
[09:09] <Stormx2> edlyn: Gotta love bots ;-)
[09:09] <Stormx2> !botsnack
[09:09] <ubotu> :)
[09:09] <nalioth> phiqtion: open terminal, type 'man grub'
[09:09] <gnocchi> i configured and activated the connection, but still noting
[09:09] <gnocchi> *nothing
[09:09] <maswan> jacobkm: ok, so not that. what filesystem did you put on the filesystem?
[09:09] <phiqtion> nalioth, not in linux right now
[09:09] <nalioth> lillpelle: it's easy in synaptic, i'm having pinning troubles myself atm
[09:10] <NoUse> gnocchi so network settings displays now?
[09:10] <jacobkm> maswan: ext3, noatime
[09:10] <jasongrieves> is there a way to run your X server with both the XVFB and the default graphics adapter together?
[09:10] <gnocchi> yup
[09:10] <nalioth> lillpelle: there is a bug that may affect YOU if you have a preferences file
[09:10] <austin_> I've tried to install 4 different programs and all say the same
[09:10] <NoUse> gnocchi so now IP address is assinged?
[09:10] <nalioth> phiqtion: grub floppies can be made
[09:10] <maswan> jacobkm: Ok. I have no further experience to help you, I think.
[09:10] <gnocchi> i don't know
[09:10] <maswan> jacobkm: other than perhaps try xfs and see if that works?
[09:10] <NoUse> gnocchi you can find out in network settings
[09:10] <lillpelle> nalioth: yes, I put it in the /etc/apt/preferences... Ok, I try to do it in synaptic instead...
[09:10] <jacobkm> masawn: well, I really appreciate all the help so far.
[09:10] <phiqtion> nalioth, i need one ASAP. where can i find one?
[09:10] <trappist> gnocchi: you know capital letters don't belong in hostnames, right?
[09:10] <jacobkm> masawn: yeah, another filesystem was my next guess
[09:11] <gnocchi> crap
[09:11] <gnocchi> i wrote nikosUbuntu xD
[09:11] <nalioth> lillpelle: save your preferences file and see if you can update and upgrade
[09:11] <nalioth> lillpelle: let us know waht happens
[09:11] <nalioth> phiqtion: find a ubuntu livecd somewhere
[09:12] <Stormx2> !livecd
[09:12] <ubotu> somebody said livecd was useful for playing with or trying out (k)ubuntu without installing it or making any changes to your system. grab one from the download page at http://www.ubuntulinux.org or request via ship-it.
[09:12] <gnocchi> i changed it to nikosubuntu
[09:12] <lillpelle> nalioth: hm, but that is what I had, a preferences file with two lines: "Package: beep-media-player" an "Pin: version 0.9.7.1-1*" (OK, I am a bit confused)
[09:12] <NoUse> gnocchi make sure you update your /etc/hosts file too
[09:12] <gnocchi> yeah i did
[09:13] <gnocchi> that's the only thing i did
[09:13] <nalioth> lillpelle: that sounds correct. save it and see if you can update and upgrade
[09:13] <Stormx2> lillpelle: Whats the problem?
[09:13] <maswan> jacobkm: please tell me how it turns out, if you try it. I'm curious. All our hw raid controllers are limtied to 2TB right now though, I think.
[09:13] <NoUse> gnocchi does your hostname have a capital letter in it?
[09:13] <gnocchi> yeah
[09:13] <gnocchi> it does
[09:13] <NoUse> gnocchi you need to change that too
[09:13] <gnocchi> where?
[09:13] <gnocchi> and how?
[09:13] <NoUse> gnocchi network settings I believe
[09:14] <lillpelle> nalioth: hm, when I opened synaptic it complained about no priority for the pin,so maybe I should add that (even though it says somewhere it is not needed)
[09:14] <gnocchi> k i
[09:14] <gnocchi> *'ll see
[09:14] <mesh> if the 5.10 live cd runs on my hp laptop fine can i go ahead and install the full thing and assume it should work?
[09:14] <jacobkm> masawn: I'm fooling around in fdisk right now; strange stuff here
[09:14] <nalioth> lillpelle: thought you used aptitude.
[09:14] <jacobkm> masawn: it sees that the partition is 3.7T but will only let me create 1.3T entries... weird
[09:14] <meborc> to mesh - YES ... but it would be wise to do dual-boot
[09:15] <nalioth> lillpelle: we need to stick to a front end for this bug check, please, and the front end should be aptitude or apt-get
[09:15] <lillpelle> nalioth: ah, adding a Pin-Priority in /etc/apt/preferences did it! :)
[09:15] <nalioth> lillpelle: please save it and update and upgrade
[09:15] <trappist> pinning is a fascinating mystery to me
[09:15] <mesh> yeah absolutley, the dual boot is an option on install?
[09:15] <lillpelle> nalioth: so now it works with aptitude, when Pin-Priority is set
[09:15] <Stormx2> mesh: Yeah
[09:15] <soundray> Does anyone here have a working xorg.conf for NVidia Twinview? I can't get X to display on a monitor connected to a laptop. RTFM won't help.
[09:15] <linuxboy> anyone have tips for performance issues with totem and dvds ?
[09:16] <painkiler> i just pluged in a wireless ario card into my lappy
[09:16] <misfit_toy>  linuxboy man hdparm
[09:16] <linuxboy> misfit_toy: done that
[09:16] <pluffsy> nalioth, I tried running that xcfg but I still just get a black screen and a mouse when I try to login to gnome from gdm. kde stills works.
[09:16] <trappist> linuxboy: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdX
[09:16] <meborc> to mesh - yes... but u should read more before doing so... just in case :)
[09:16] <linuxboy> trappist: dome that
[09:16] <painkiler> i have restarted ubuntu and its still not reconising
[09:16] <nalioth> lillpelle: upgrading works fine? no weird error msgs?
[09:16] <trappist> linuxboy: in that case, no
[09:16] <linuxboy> trappist: thanks
[09:16] <nalioth> pluffsy: did you choose the VESA driver?
[09:16] <Stormx2> mesh: To be honest, providing you know (a little) about disk partitioning, it should be fine :)
[09:17] <lillpelle> nalioth: yes, both update and upgrade runs without problems (and upgrade without wanting to "upgrade" to the older cvs package)
[09:17] <lillpelle> Stormx2: was problem with pinning, sorry for not explaining the question again, but now it seems to be resolved :)
[09:17] <nalioth> lillpelle: good to hear! i've got a bug associated with my pinning, and i can't figure it out
[09:18] <Stormx2> lillpelle: Good :)
[09:18] <pluffsy> nalioth, err. hehe did you say that? totally missed that in that case. I selected defaults. where should I select VESA? is that a graphics card driver? (btw I'm on a powerbook ppc if that makes a difference)
[09:18] <Stormx2> Damnit... I'm gonna have to go back onto windows now...
[09:18] <gnocchi> i changed my hostname, now i'm rebooting
[09:18] <nalioth> pluffsy: as a display driver, choose VESA
[09:18] <nalioth> pluffsy: good, i love macs
[09:18] <Stormx2> ....when this song finishes
[09:18] <pluffsy> nalioth, alright. I'll try again. thanks :)
[09:19] <lillpelle> thanks alot for helping, nalioth
[09:19] <lillpelle> hope your problem will be solved aswell
[09:19] <nalioth> lillpelle: share the love, help someone else
[09:19] <cid> I can connect fine with smbclient, no password needed or anything but browsing the network servers with nautilus doesn't work at all. What's wrong? Typing smb:/// doesn't work either.
[09:20] <lillpelle> nalioth: yes, I should (I am usually helping people in #math and #latex, with linux I am not so good myself, but maybe one can help someone) :)
[09:20] <bubba> nickrud, I added non-free, and found a couple flash things not installed... installing now :)
[09:21] <painkiler> can some one guide me or show me how to install a wireless pcmcia card?
[09:21] <gnocchi> uhm it's still not working
[09:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell painkiler about wireless
[09:22] <pluffsy> nalioth, now it asks me about modules I want xserver to load. is that the place? it says something about VESA BIOS (but my computer doesn't have a bios of course)
[09:22] <ganhongsen> join #edubuntu
[09:22] <nalioth> pluffsy: display driver VESA, no modules, just display driver
[09:22] <gnocchi> NoUse?
[09:22] <shadeofgrey> guyd this isd an emergency situation
[09:22] <rubicant> hey, they say your penis gets small when you buy a xbox360
[09:22] <shadeofgrey> i need help immediately to restore my main system
[09:22] <nalioth> rubicant: be civil please
[09:23] <Stormx2> shadeofgrey: OK. Whats the problem?
[09:23] <shadeofgrey> i just installed fedora core4 to my sewcondary harddrive but somehow GRUB got fucked up
[09:23] <gnocchi> nalioth?
[09:23] <Stormx2> shadeofgrey: In what way?
[09:23] <nalioth> shadeofgrey: vulgar language isnt gonna help you
[09:23] <gnocchi> somebody?
[09:23] <shadeofgrey> every time i boot the system now it stops at teh grub beginning screen and says error 15
[09:23] <nalioth> gnocchi: i have no idea what you are trying to do
[09:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shadeofgrey about recover
[09:24] <adriyel> hi everyone
[09:24] <gnocchi> get my internet connection going
[09:24] <adriyel> nalioth, sup
[09:24] <nalioth> adriyel: howdy
[09:24] <trappist> gnocchi: why don't you start from the top
[09:24] <pluffsy> nalioth, hmm I feel stupid but it never asked about a display driver. maybe I shouldn't have selected autoconfigure graphics card or whatever the first option was?
[09:24] <nalioth> pluffsy: yes, that would be good
[09:24] <shadeofgrey> so the moral of the story is that i need to toast my master boot record and reinstall grub
[09:24] <gnocchi> i configured my ethernet interface, i changed my hostname
[09:24] <gnocchi> that's about it
[09:24] <nalioth> shadeofgrey: read what ubotu sent you please
[09:25] <ganhongsen> hi how to make ln -s /dev/ttyACM0 /dev/modem permanent so I don't have to type it everytime I login?
[09:25] <pluffsy> nalioth, "attempt to autodetect video hardware?" and I should select No?
[09:25] <shadeofgrey> i know how to do the first part.. i have an old win95 boot disk with fdisk on it... so i can fdisk /mbr and that wil clear the grub loader from the mbr
[09:25] <J_Man> that's why I always keep a grub emergency boot disk handy
[09:25] <shadeofgrey> but i have no idea how to put it back
[09:25] <painkiler> yeah, ubuntu isnt reconising it and its on the good list....
[09:25] <Stormx2> !recovergrub
[09:25] <ubotu> hmm... recovergrub is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:25] <trappist> gnocchi: that's not enough information to begin troubleshooting an internet connectivity issue
[09:26] <gnocchi> k
[09:26] <gnocchi> uhm i don't know what else to say
[09:26] <gnocchi> it has an ipv6 address
[09:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Stormx2 about recover
[09:26] <gnocchi> i don't think that's supposed te be
[09:26] <gnocchi> *to
[09:26] <Urthmover> how do use fb instead of gnome on breezy?
[09:27] <shadeofgrey> how do i make a grub rescue disk?
[09:27] <gnocchi> the interface information is not available...
[09:27] <J_Man> hang on shade
[09:27] <gnocchi> no hardware address, no multicast, nothing
[09:28] <gnocchi> need more?
[09:28] <J_Man> shade: http://www.jutley.org/bootdisks/grubboot.img
[09:28] <J_Man> just dd that image onto a 1.44MB floppy
[09:28] <J_Man> and boot from it
[09:28] <J_Man> it'll give you a grub command prompt you can use to boot your system
[09:28] <J_Man> then reinstall grub to your MBR
[09:28] <gnocchi> trappist?
[09:29] <gnocchi> (nederlands?)
[09:30] <soundray> shadeofgrey, step-by-step instructions are in 'info grub'. Install grub-doc first.
[09:30] <KRavEN> any apt/synaptic experts available?
[09:30] <gnocchi> hello?
[09:30] <trappist> gnocchi: does the device have an ip address
[09:30] <gnocchi> yes, but it is ipv6
[09:30] <gnocchi> not v4
[09:30] <trappist> gnocchi: no ipv4 address?
[09:30] <gnocchi> nope
[09:30] <trappist> gnocchi: try 'sudo dhclient'
[09:31] <blackhat> how can I burn a *.iso DVD Image file?
[09:31] <J_Man> k3b
[09:31] <soundray> KRavEN, a dime a dozen :)
[09:31] <blackhat> without k3b
[09:31] <gnocchi> now what?
[09:31] <blackhat> because i dont have kde
[09:31] <yota> cdrecord ?
[09:31] <J_Man> cdrecord
[09:31] <trappist> gnocchi: now does it have an ip address?
[09:31] <blackhat> how would I do it in that?
[09:31] <ganhongsen> hi how to make ln -s /dev/ttyACM0 /dev/modem permanent so I don't have to type it everytime I login?
[09:32] <J_Man> cdrecord dev=/dev/hd* -eject -data whatever.iso
[09:32] <gnocchi> still ipv6, but now it's ::1 xD
[09:32] <blackhat> thanks
[09:32] <soundray> blackhat, right click in nautilus should show a menu with an entry for burning it.
[09:33] <blackhat> It says it doesnt have enough room on the disc
[09:33] <KRavEN> soundray, maybe i have a hard one then.  I just forced amd64 kernel into my i386 install, default breezy kernel, works great, only complaint is synaptic-update keeps wanting to install binutils-static
[09:33] <trappist> gnocchi: is this your internet-facing device?  it's plugged into a dsl modem, or what?
[09:33] <blackhat> but the disc is 4.7gb
[09:33] <NoUse> blackhat you can install k3b without having kde
[09:33] <Stormx2> Help!
[09:33] <KRavEN> had to pull the i386 binutils and put in the amd64 one
[09:33] <gnocchi> yup, into a linksys router
[09:33] <Stormx2> I can't run soldat in ubuntu!
[09:33] <Stormx2> :(
[09:33] <blackhat> NoUse, yeah it comes up to be around 400mb
[09:33] <KRavEN> want that to go away and I want update to tell me if there is a new amd64 kernel or modules
[09:33] <gnocchi> with dhcp
[09:33] <NoUse> blackhat yeah I guess it does
[09:34] <dell500> anyone here know where the wine config file is?
[09:34] <trappist> gnocchi: so, is it supposed to have a public or private ip address?
[09:34] <NoUse> dell500 ~/.wine/config
[09:34] <herni> hi everyone
[09:34] <gnocchi> uhm i don't know
[09:34] <dell500> thanks No1Viking
[09:34] <dell500> NoUse
[09:34] <dell500> :)
[09:34] <gnocchi> what do you mean exactly?
[09:34] <trappist> gnocchi: should the ip address be like 192.168.*.*?
[09:35] <gnocchi> yup xD
[09:35] <bubba> im still fighting with mozilla and konqueor... neither seem to work with yahoo games :(
[09:35] <trappist> gnocchi: what's the device? eth0? eth1?
[09:35] <gnocchi> eth0
[09:35] <bubba> ive seen error messages that say i need to enable java, and javascript, they both are enabled in both browsers, but still no joy :(
[09:35] <trappist> gnocchi: ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.123
[09:35] <Stormx2> bubba: yahoo games may need activex
[09:35] <bubba> I dont think it uses flash, but that seems to be installed.
[09:36] <gnocchi> permission denied
[09:36] <bubba> Stormx2, ewww! I hope not!
[09:36] <trappist> gnocchi: sudo
[09:36] <soundray> KRavEN, this could be a package management bug, I think.
[09:36] <gnocchi> sudo ifconfig?
[09:36] <Stormx2> !activex
[09:36] <ubotu> activex is probably evil
[09:36] <trappist> gnocchi: yes
[09:36] <Agrajag> probably?
[09:37] <Xenguy> haha
[09:37] <bubba> thier support pages dont show konq or firefox.. just ie and netscape. I think ive used mozilla/firefox under linux with yahoo games though...
[09:37] <gnocchi> does nothing
[09:37] <trappist> gnocchi: does nothing, or says nothing?
[09:37] <gearry> how can I permenantly add a value to my path env var?
[09:37] <gnocchi> does nothing, says nothing
[09:37] <trappist> gnocchi: if it SAYS nothing, that's good.
[09:37] <gearry> I have tried adding it to /etc/profile with no effect
[09:37] <gnocchi> the ip is still the same, ::1
[09:37] <Xenguy> gearry: ~/.bash_profile is the file to edit IIRC
[09:37] <ganhongsen> hi how to make ln -s /dev/ttyACM0 /dev/modem permanent so I don't have to type it everytime I login? please help?
[09:37] <gearry> see http://pastebin.com/430777
[09:37] <trappist> gnocchi: if says nothing, it did something.  see if it has an ip address now.
[09:38] <trappist> gnocchi: how are you viewing the ip address
[09:38] <gearry> ganhongsen: um, you should not have to
[09:38] <gnocchi> applications >> system tools >> network tools
[09:38] <soundray> KRavEN, as a work around, try "Package - Force Version" on the current one.
[09:38] <trappist> gnocchi: ifconfig eth0
[09:38] <gnocchi> and still ipv6 and still ::1
[09:38] <gearry> ganhongsen: that is a symlink that should stay as long as your filesystem is not corrupted
[09:39] <gearry> are you booting from a read-only filesystem?
[09:39] <gearry> like a CD or DVD?
[09:39] <gnocchi> it says a whole bunch of things
[09:39] <crimsun> occy: good to hear
[09:39] <ganhongsen> the gnome seemed to not remember it, I have to retype it everytime I login
[09:39] <Corin_777> can anyone recomend a good proxy software?
[09:39] <trappist> gnocchi: look for 'inet addr'
[09:40] <gnocchi> inet addr is correct, 192.168.*.*
[09:40] <ganhongsen> gearry: what good&free firewall for linux?
[09:40] <trappist> amazing.
[09:40] <trappist> gnocchi: now, what's the problem
[09:40] <gnocchi> Bcast is 192.168.1.255, is that supposed to be the ip addr of the router?
[09:40] <cafuego> iptables, good&only
[09:41] <Stormx2> gnocchi: Try it.
[09:41] <trappist> gnocchi: no, but that's wrong for an ip address of 192.168.0.123
[09:41] <gnocchi> how?
[09:41] <gearry> ganhongsen: yeah, iptables is pretty much the way to go
[09:41] <gnocchi> it's supposed to be 192.168.1.*
[09:41] <gearry> there are numerous tools for configuring an iptables firewall
[09:41] <trappist> ganhongsen: ipkungfu for a nice iptables frontend
[09:41] <gearry> I have found shorewall both flexible and friendly to noobs
[09:41] <trappist> gnocchi: route -n | grep ^0
[09:41] <trappist> gnocchi: that should show the ip address of your router
[09:41] <cge> Is there some way I can get the battery charge percentage directly, without having to calculate it from capacity values in /proc/acpi/battery?
[09:42] <gnocchi> with sudo?
[09:42] <trappist> no
[09:42] <bubba> ok.. so I can confirm that its possible to use yahoo games under linux on mozilla/firefox but just not on this computer yet.
[09:42] <soundray> Corin_777, maybe squid fits the bill.
[09:42] <gnocchi> does nothing
[09:42] <TDX> Hello world! :-)
[09:42] <pluffsy_> nalioth, hmm it has nothing todo with framebuffer device? because even when I select no I get no option for display driver :(
[09:42] <trappist> bubba: some yahoo games.  some of them are flash, which can be played, and some of them are other technologies not supported in linux
[09:42] <trappist> bubba: oh, and some are java
[09:43] <nalioth> pluffsy_: i'm wondering why your powerbook isnt working. macs install flawlessly out of the box
[09:43] <Corin_777> soundray, how easy is squid to install/configure on ubuntu (command-line), and does it work at the same time as apache and ftp servers?
[09:43] <ganhongsen> ok, I'll search for them, thx guys
[09:43] <bubba> trappist, im guessing its java... but it should still work, i just dont know why its not ...
[09:43] <trappist> gnocchi: sudo route add default gw rou.ter.ip.addr
[09:43] <lekvar> Has anyone here installed firefox 1.5 from the .gz at mozilla.com and gotten complaints referring to "unregistered chrome"?
[09:43] <gnocchi> route -n says destination is 192.168.1.0
[09:43] <trappist> bubba: do you have a java plugin in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[09:43] <bubba> ive lookd, and found java binaries are installed...
[09:43] <nickrud> bubba, you can test your java & flash at http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml and http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/welcome/
[09:44] <adriyel> bubba, almost all games from Yahoo are flash/java, the ones you download and install must be run with wine
[09:44] <pluffsy_> nalioth, but it did work first. then for some reason it stopped working. I don't even think I installed any package. and if I wasn't from any weird reps.
[09:44] <soundray> Corin_777, 1) don't know, 2) yes, 3) yes.
[09:44] <trappist> gnocchi: type what I said
[09:44] <gnocchi> gw host name lookup failure
[09:44] <Corin_777> ok
[09:44] <Corin_777> :)
[09:44] <pluffsy_> err, if I did it wasn't from any weird reps
[09:44] <trappist> gnocchi: use the real ip address of your router, silly
[09:44] <gnocchi> k xD
[09:44] <gnocchi> sry
[09:44] <bubba> I dont see java plugins, but there are flash plugins there...
[09:45] <gnocchi> still gw: host name lookup failure
[09:45] <trappist> gnocchi: what exactly did you type
[09:45] <gnocchi> sudo route add gw 192.168.1.1
[09:45] <trappist> gnocchi: that's not what I said.  try again.
[09:45] <gnocchi> ow shit xD
[09:46] <nickrud> bubba, there should be a wierd dancer on the java test, and on the macromedia, the top is shockwave (not available on linux) bottom is flash, it should say installation complete in the upper right corner
[09:46] <gnocchi> now it says nothing
[09:46] <jasongrieves> is there a way to run your X server with both the XVFB and the default graphics adapter together?
[09:46] <nalioth> gnocchi: please watch your language
[09:46] <bubba> yeah, the java test pages dont work with konq or firefox :(
[09:46] <gnocchi> sorry
[09:46] <trappist> gnocchi: now, route -n | grep ^0
[09:47] <gnocchi> done
[09:47] <trappist> gnocchi: now try to ping your router
[09:47] <ganhongsen> I connect to internet using wvdial provider, how to disconnect it? I log out from my root login and login using username but the connection persist
[09:47] <nickrud> bubba, how did you install java?
[09:47] <trappist> ganhongsen: sudo ifdown ppp0
[09:47] <gnocchi> it works!!
[09:47] <bubba> searching synaptic right now...
[09:47] <gnocchi> now what?
[09:47] <trappist> gnocchi: can you ping 64.233.187.99
[09:48] <gnocchi> yeah
[09:48] <gnocchi> it won't stop xD
[09:48] <trappist> gnocchi: ctrl-c
[09:48] <trappist> gnocchi: now, can you ping google.com
[09:48] <bubba> nickrud, either during install or after with synaptic, cant remember...
[09:49] <ganhongsen> trappist : ifdown: interface ppp0 not configured
[09:49] <gnocchi> i can
[09:49] <Whistler> how do i install quick time player/
[09:49] <Whistler> ?
[09:49] <trappist> ganhongsen: run ifconfig to see what your network devices are.  one should be your wvdial interface.  sudo ifdown thatinterface
[09:49] <trappist> gnocchi: looks like you're all set
[09:49] <welp> wow....
[09:49] <welp> i didn't know ubuntu was so popular
[09:50] <nickrud> bubba, ok, paste the output of java -version to #flood
[09:50] <gnocchi> yeah it works, but the icon at the top right hand still says 'no network...' when i click it
[09:50] <trappist> gnocchi: I don't use gnome and I don't know what that icon is
[09:50] <bubba> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[09:50] <nalioth> gnocchi: the pretty pictures tell lies
[09:50] <trappist> gnocchi: but you clearly are connected
[09:50] <Whistler> how do i install quick time player ?
[09:50] <Hakon> people, one question
[09:50] <gnocchi> that's true
[09:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Whistler about restricted
[09:51] <gnocchi> well, thnx
[09:51] <NoUse> Whistler there isn't a quicktime player for linux
[09:51] <gnocchi> you've been a great help
[09:51] <NoUse> Whistler use mplayer
[09:51] <trappist> or wine
[09:51] <nalioth> NoUse: libquicktime0
[09:51] <ganhongsen> trappist : there's 2 : 1> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[09:51] <ganhongsen>  2>ppp0      Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
[09:51] <Hakon> my computer is turning off after loading, before GDM... have you ever seen anything like this?
[09:51] <NoUse> nalioth thats a libary, not a player
[09:51] <bubba> crap... cant post there!
[09:51] <trappist> ganhongsen: that looks like a ppp0 to me
[09:51] <nalioth> NoUse: with the lib, any media player can be used
[09:51] <NoUse> nalioth which is why I said use mplayer
[09:51] <shinu> anyone using qemu here?
[09:52] <ganhongsen> but it returns this answer :ganhongsen@edubuntu:~$
[09:52] <ganhongsen> ganhongsen@edubuntu:~$ sudo ifdown lo
[09:52] <ganhongsen> ganhongsen@edubuntu:~$ sudo ifdown ppp0
[09:52] <ganhongsen> ifdown: interface ppp0 not configured
[09:52] <ganhongsen> ganhongsen@edubuntu:~$
[09:52] <stratovarius> hey guy who can give me an update source.list for hoary?
[09:52] <kennethb> Anyone having problmes with OpenOffice 2.0 slowing down their PCs?
[09:52] <NoUse> ganhongsen don't paste in here, read the /topic
[09:52] <Hakon> my computer is turning off after loading, before GDM... have you ever seen anything like this?
[09:52] <ganhongsen> sorry
[09:52] <NoUse> !tell stratovarius about repos
[09:53] <bubba> well... im installing jdk2 ... maybe that will help ?
[09:53] <NoUse> kennethb how much memory do you have?
[09:53] <Hakon> my computer is turning off after loading, before GDM start... have you ever seen anything like this?
[09:53] <trappist> ganhongsen: better bring lo back up.  that's your loopback device.
[09:53] <nalioth> ganhongsen: please read the /topic when you enter channels, please (and no more pasting)
[09:53] <Corin_777> can anyone quickly help me with squid?
[09:53] <nickrud> bubba, np, paste update-alternatives --list java in #flood
[09:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Hakon about repeat
[09:53] <kennethb> I have 512K of memory.
[09:53] <ganhongsen> ok, sorry about the pasting..
[09:53] <navarone> ganhongsen > i think you are using educational version od ubuntu according to your paste
[09:53] <bubba> nickrud, im sorry, i dont know what you mean...
[09:53] <ganhongsen> navarone : yes
[09:53] <NoUse> kennethb you mean 512MB, right?
[09:54] <kennethb> Oops, yes 512MB
[09:54] <glick> windows 3.1 was the best OS
[09:54] <topyli> anybody using the "listen" music player. i'm (again) in search of a player :)
[09:54] <nalioth> bubba: in a terminal, type "update-alternatives --list java"
[09:54] <navarone> ganhongsen > I do not think this is the channel for that version
[09:54] <nalioth> bubba: paste the output into #flood
[09:54] <NoUse> kennethb well OO is a large app so it might slow down your machine a bit
[09:54] <nickrud> bubba, type that command in a terminal ( update-alternatives --list java ) it will list several options available for java
[09:54] <trappist> ganhongsen: what makes you think the connection is still up
[09:54] <pluffsy_> nalioth, should I try to reinstall gnome or something instead?
[09:54] <NoUse> kennethb but I haven't seen that too much
[09:54] <nalioth> pluffsy_: sudo apt-get install --reinstal ubuntu-desktop
[09:55] <glick> has anyone here played with the new vista actually?
[09:55] <nalioth> pluffsy_: but spell it correctly, even
[09:55] <NoUse> glick this isn't #windows
[09:55] <chris__> hi what do i need to install to setup a local pop3 server that is conected to my local mailbox?
[09:55] <ganhongsen> trappist : what does the "lo" use? what if it "ifdown-ed"?
[09:55] <pluffsy_> nalioth, thanks :)
[09:55] <kennethb> NoUse- When I do a 'top' command I see that OO uses up to 25% of my memory.
[09:55] <Corin_777> how can i change access control configuration in squid?
[09:55] <nalioth> kennethb: use abiword
[09:55] <Hakon> nalioth, i change some init scripts, and the computer starts to turn off after loading. then I make all the changes back, but it's still turning off
[09:56] <nalioth> Corin_777: ask uncle google about "squid howto" there are hundreds of them
[09:56] <Dasnipa`> on a side note because someone mentioned vista... vista isnt going to include SDL or openGL
[09:56] <ganhongsen> I read at the website that I can get help here  either, there's noone answering me at #edubuntu
[09:56] <trappist> ganhongsen: it's 127.0.0.1 - a lot of stuff expects to be able to communicate on your own machine via the network, on the loopback interface
[09:56] <nalioth> Hakon: i have no idea
[09:56] <NoUse> kennethb I'm not at my desktop so I can't check that
[09:56] <glick> NoUse, yeah i know it isnt
[09:56] <trappist> ganhongsen: here is fine
[09:56] <navarone> hakon > have you changed your runlevels? You may have inadvertently set ubuntu to power off immediately
[09:56] <nalioth> ganhongsen: if nobody knows what you ask, nobody knows
[09:56] <glick> Dasnipa`, why not?
[09:56] <stratovarius> NoUse: I'm already using that repos but I can install only old package for example the old version of amule
[09:56] <teenz> i am not able to write into my fat32 formatted drives!!   plz help
[09:57] <NoUse> stratovarius what version is it installing?
[09:57] <nalioth> Dasnipa`: glick; take your vista talk to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:57] <kennethb> nalioth: Yes, AbiWord and Gnumeric I prefer. Is there a GNOME presentation app to make slides?
[09:57] <trappist> fellas he's asking a networking question.  surely the edubuntu network stack isn't radically different than ubuntu's
[09:57] <stratovarius> NoUse:2.0.3
[09:57] <nalioth> trappist: it is the same
[09:57] <Hakon> navarone, well, I think not. i dunno how to change runlevel before ubuntu start
[09:57] <NoUse> !info amule
[09:58] <ubotu> amule: (aNOTHER eMule P2P Client), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.0.3-1ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 2459 kB, Installed size: 7452 kB
[09:58] <chris__> where can i find all the services that startup at boot?
[09:58] <NoUse> thats the version thats in the repos
[09:58] <nalioth> kennethb: see 'pointless'
[09:58] <kennethb> nalioth: thx much!
[09:58] <Corin_777> nalioth, cant find anything....
[09:58] <teenz>  i am not able to write into my fat32 formatted drives!!   plz help
[09:58] <nalioth> Corin_777: i find it amazing that i can ask google things and get valid results and you can not
[09:59] <stratovarius> NoUse: I reinstalled the system but the graphic of the amule in the old system was better than the reinstalled system. may u tell me why?
[09:59] <nalioth> teenz: please dont repeat. and if you ask a valid question, we might could help you
[09:59] <Corin_777> what amazing result did you find then nalioth?
[09:59] <nalioth> Corin_777: i've told you in -offtopic, i'm not your personal google
[09:59] <Corin_777> nalioth, i cant find anything useful
[09:59] <Corin_777> ive read many pages
[09:59] <stratovarius> ciao nihil85
[10:00] <cmatheson> ok, this question isn't very verbose, and slightly off-topic, but i need to have my ubuntu box here connect to a port of a windows machine that is behind a firewall--could this be done w/ reverse ssh tunnels?
[10:00] <teenz> k...how do i change the permissions of my hard disk drives so that i can write into the drives?
[10:00] <Nihil85> ciao stratovarius
[10:00] <nalioth> Corin_777: go ask in #squid or ##squid
[10:00] <Corin_777> nalioth, i have, no reply
[10:01] <glick> i hope my breezy cds come soon :(
[10:01] <thrush> glick: they will come right before dapper is released ;)
[10:01] <Hakon> teenz, depends
[10:01] <Hakon> teenz, NTFS?
[10:01] <teenz> !ping
[10:01] <ubotu> pong
[10:01] <runedude5> !pong
[10:01] <ubotu> Wish i knew, runedude5
[10:02] <glick> dapper drake is a great name for a porn star
[10:02] <navarone> teenz  > try this thread in forum  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/post-319005.html
[10:02] <teenz> when i goto the the properties of the drive it says i dont have enough permissions
[10:02] <NoUse> stratovarius I don't know why that is
[10:02] <teenz> navarone:thank u i'll try it n let u know
[10:03] <navarone> k teenz...but I am no guru myself...but i am sure pleanty here have more experience
[10:03] <mud> Hello, how would I connect to irc://wwip.bongster.de/gba-rom-news in X-chat... I never seem to be able to get that room.
[10:03] <Hakon> how can I see which runlevel am i running?
[10:03] <glick> when i visit my mom this christmass im gonna hook her up with a nice ubuntu computer
[10:03] <ganhongsen> trappist : when I tried to install thunderbird "sh thunderbird" it answers ./thunderbird-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5:
[10:03] <teenz> k one more question how do i sign in as root in ubuntu 5.10
[10:03] <zanaga> teenz, sudo -s
[10:04] <navarone> glick> will her nick be dapper drake or soemthing more ladylike? <s>
[10:04] <glick> is it me or has mozilla been much more stable then firefox lately
[10:04] <zanaga> teenz, it's not recommended to log in as root, but that's the way you get the root shell
[10:04] <nick01> hi- I looked in synaptic and "restricted modules" which it sais includes the nvidia driver is already installed but X doesn't start with nvidia :(
[10:04] <teenz> k thank you
[10:04] <glick> navarone, her nick will be hot_teen4u
[10:04] <nick01> what do I have to install ?
[10:04] <navarone> lol
[10:05] <mud> was anyone here installed webmin on Ubuntu?
[10:05] <WildZeck> nope why
[10:05] <nalioth> ganhongsen: did you install thunderbird from the repos?
[10:05] <pluffsy_> nalioth, tar complains a lot about timestamps from 1904 when I reinstall ubuntu-desktop. anything I should care about?
[10:05] <teenz> the hard disk mounting details are written into which file in ubuntu?
[10:05] <Hakon> how can I see which runlevel am i running?
[10:05] <nalioth> pluffsy_: your battery seems to be bad
[10:06] <navarone> fstab
[10:06] <nick01> please help, how do I get the nvidia drivers to work ?
[10:06] <ironuckles> has anyone had any problems with Ubuntu 5.10 randomly freezing in X?
[10:06] <glick> my mom just wants to browse the web, use AIM, email, etc, and a nice little ubuntu machine will be perfect for her
[10:06] <NoUse> !tell nick01 about nvidia
[10:06] <ganhongsen> nalioth: What is repos? I downloaded and installing it through terminal, from what I read at thunderbird's website
[10:06] <Hakon> nick01, www.ubuntuforums.org, see Customizations & Tricks Forum
[10:06] <nick01> tks
[10:06] <ClayG> does anyone have any experience with privoxy and would like to give a quick hand?
[10:06] <nalioth> ganhongsen: please dont do that.
[10:07] <nalioth> ganhongsen: we have over 17,000 pkgs for you to use
[10:07] <navarone> nick > you may have to edit the xorg.conf file and change display driver settings...do a quick google for "ubuntu nvidia" or soemthing like that
[10:07] <ClayG> lol or a good wat to automount a windows partition ?
[10:07] <glick> does anyone find firefox is getting less and less stable?
[10:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ganhongsen about repos
[10:07] <glick> i find myself going back to mozilla more and more offten
[10:07] <ganhongsen> nalioth: don't install thunderbird?
[10:07] <nalioth> ganhongsen: using non ubuntu packages is not good for the health of your ubuntu
[10:08] <nalioth> ganhongsen: use the repos (in fact, i think thunderbird is default in ubuntu)
[10:08] <ganhongsen> nalioth: oh i see...
[10:08] <glick> why doesnt canonical sell a boxed version of ubuntu as well?
[10:08] <navarone> I think evolution is default email in ubuntu
[10:08] <nalioth> ganhongsen: read what ubotu sent you in a priv msg, and enable universe and multiverse repos
[10:08] <glick> alot of people would buy it
[10:09] <nalioth> glick: they do
[10:09] <Agrajag> yeah, it's in main, mozilla-thunderbird
[10:09] <ironuckles> Does anyone use an iPod with Ubuntu? If so, what software do you use for it?
[10:09] <nalioth> ironuckles: gtkpod
[10:09] <pluffsy_> reboot..
[10:09] <thrush> ironuckles: gtkpod
[10:09] <glick> nalioth, but not in retail stores
[10:09] <ganhongsen> navarone : yes here is only evolution mail
[10:09] <nalioth> glick: and not to individual consumers
[10:09] <ironuckles> Can gtkpod also write to iPods
[10:09] <ironuckles> ?
[10:09] <vincent_> a woman with red hair has interest for me
[10:09] <NoUse> ironuckles yes
[10:09] <ironuckles> Okay, thanks
[10:10] <vincent_> iro nuckles
[10:10] <nalioth> ganhongsen: i suspect if you look in the internet menu, you'll see thunderbird. if not, you can use synaptic and install it easily
[10:10] <ClayG> anyone know a good tmpgenc and/ or svcd2dvd nix port?
[10:10] <nalioth> ClayG: search sourceforge.net or freshmeat.net
[10:10] <glick> i seriously doubt that anyone has EVER ordered the ubuntu thong, cept maybe some lonley perferted 16 year old 'hacker'
[10:11] <teenz> help!      my drive properties window says i can change its properties only if i sign in as root......how do i do that????  i dont know how to work with the terminal...
[10:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell teenz about cli
[10:11] <navarone> I just noticed something in Xchat...underneath nicks is a line that slowly fills in...any idea what that is?
[10:11] <Agrajag> navarone: some sort of lag indicator
[10:11] <navarone> okie
[10:12] <navarone> ty
[10:12] <markl__> oh no not again
[10:12] <joh> teenz: applications -> system tools -> run as different user
[10:12] <markl__> is there an easy way to get the xmms-flac plugin working on ubuntu
[10:12] <Marlun> I'm having some problems, I have windows xp on the master harddisk and had ubuntu on the slave. When I first installed ubuntu i had problems with the installation freezing when it came to installing GRUB, I made it work when I manually partitioned the disks and remove the boot loader from the master hd, now When I tried to install kubuntu instead of ubuntu, the installation freezed again.
[10:13] <joh> markl__: yes, use rhythmbox/gstreamer
[10:13] <Marlun> I've tried everything, adding and removing boot loader from both the master and the slave, but the installation allways freezes when it comes to installing GRUB.
[10:13] <teenz> joh: how do i access my drive properties as root user?
[10:13] <markl__> joh: are those the same program or two different programs
[10:13] <jitsumi> Hello! how can I boot from a windows install-cd on a pc with ubuntu installed? I put the cd in the player and go for the restart, but it boots from hd and not the cd-rom. What to do?
[10:13] <dooglus> jitsumi: it'll be a BIOS setting
[10:13] <joh> markl__: rhythmbox uses gstreamer for audio playback, you want to install gstreamer-plugins for support for different formats.
[10:13] <navarone> jitsumi > you must change boot order in bios to access cd-rom before floppy or hdd
[10:14] <dooglus> jitsumi: watch the screen carefully when you boot.  so you see "hit F2 for setup" or some such?  If so, hit 'f2' for setup...
[10:15] <jitsumi> I never saw this before, but I will try again now. Thank you, thank you!
[10:15] <SGershon> Hi. Can I play asfx media streams in Linux?
[10:15] <dooglus> jitsumi: try 'f2', 'f8', 'del', and such like
[10:15] <joh> teenz: drive properties as system->administration->disks?
[10:15] <NoUse> SGershon I think your best bet is with mplayer
[10:15] <jitsumi> will do
[10:15] <bur[n] er> anyone play with hula?
[10:15] <ganhongsen> trappist : Is the shorewall's file to be downloaded for Ubuntu "shorewall-3.0.0.tgz "?
[10:16] <joh> bur[n] er: yes :)
[10:16] <SGershon> NoUse, do I need some special codec?
[10:16] <NoUse> ganhongsen shorewall is in synaptic
[10:16] <NoUse> SGershon try w32codecs
[10:16] <NoUse> !w32codecs
[10:16] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil. One possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[10:16] <bur[n] er> joh: what did you do to get it going?  I followed the wiki... hulamanager is running, but I can't connect to localhost:89 ??  any ideas
[10:16] <markl__> joh: E: Couldn't find package gstreamer-plugins
[10:16] <trappist> ganhongsen: you'd apt-get install shorewall
[10:16] <nick01> is there a ubuntu kernel compile guide ?
[10:16] <teenz> joh: not that properties ...i want to change the permissions of the drive so i can write into it.....but it says i can change the permissions only root user can change those permissions......plz help
[10:17] <vincent_> you mean you have to use your hands? that's like a baby's toy!
[10:17] <blackhat> When I am using DVD Shrink 3.2 it fails to open the DVD on ASPI whats this mean?
[10:17] <NoUse> !tell nick01 about kernel
[10:17] <joh> markl__: search for gstreamer, it's not called "gstreamer-plugins"
[10:17] <dooglus> !tell me about kernel
[10:17] <nick01> tks
[10:17] <markl__> gstreamer0.8-flac is already installed
[10:17] <jasongrieves> is there a way to run your X server with both the XVFB and the default graphics adapter together?
[10:17] <dooglus> /msg ubotu kernel
[10:17] <markl__> rhythmbox just keeps saying "Loading" and then showing the number of songs
[10:17] <dooglus> !/msg ubotu kernel
[10:17] <ubotu> dooglus: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:17] <SGershon> NoUse, I've read that W32Codecs will wok on i386 but hardly on i686... I have Breezy i686
[10:17] <dooglus> !kernel
[10:18] <nick01> NoUse, are u a bot ?
[10:18] <Marlun> No one who can help me with my grub problem?
[10:18] <HrdwrBoB> SGershon: that's wrong
[10:18] <SGershon> NoUse, you thik it will be a problem?
[10:18] <NoUse> SGershon you still have a i386 arch
[10:18] <HrdwrBoB> SGershon: that's on *amd64*
[10:18] <NoUse> nick01 no
[10:18] <nick01> NoUse, lol; k- u answered both my questions
[10:19] <joh> teenz: oh, well. I'm not sure how it can be done graphically, but it can be done by manually editing the mount options in /etc/fstab... I guess that's not what you want.
[10:19] <Chris_Tucker> how do change which device i control when i click my vol icon once (master, pcm, headphone) aswell as my keyboard vol up/down?
[10:19] <ganhongsen> Marlun : What about using Bootmagic 8?
[10:19] <spektr> anybody using apt-proxy? I'm trying to import my cache using apt-proxy-import, but I get "skipped - no suitable backend found" for every deb.
[10:19] <dooglus> NoUse: could you ask ubotu to tell me about kernel too?  He won't talk to me.
[10:20] <bur[n] er> joh: does your hula work?
[10:20] <NoUse> dooglus  /msg ubotu tell me about kernel   should work
[10:20] <dooglus> NoUse: it doesn't:
[10:20] <dooglus> 22:20 <dooglus> tell me about kernel
[10:20] <dooglus> 22:20 <ubotu> Please use private messages, like '/msg ubotu kernel', rather
[10:20] <dooglus>               than posting into the channel needlessly.
[10:20] <teenz> joh: i tried that too its set all <options> to default and <dump> and <pass> are 0 and type is vfat
[10:21] <NoUse> dooglus the topic clearly says that you are not to paste in this channel
[10:21] <dooglus> NoUse: I didn't paste - those were private messages
[10:21] <blackhat> When I am using DVD Shrink 3.2 it fails to open the DVD on ASPI whats this mean?
[10:21] <NoUse> dooglus no they weren't
[10:22] <Agrajag> blackhat: isn't that for windows?
[10:22] <NoUse> dooglus follow ubotu's instructions, does that work?
[10:22] <pluffsy> hello
[10:22] <navarone> dooglus...pm's only work for registered users
[10:22] <dooglus> NoUse: try it yourself.  it just doesn't work
[10:22] <painkiler_> what is the default root pass?
[10:22] <Agrajag> painkiler_: there isn't one, use sudo
[10:22] <Agrajag> !rootsudo
[10:22] <ubotu> hmm... rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[10:22] <zblach> hey. quick bit of strangeness. i have the system monitor in my panels, and I find that my memory monitor never goes down.
[10:22] <dooglus> navarone: I'm a registered user
[10:22] <SGershon> NoUse, HrdwrBoB, thanks, great!
[10:23] <painkiler_> i am sutch a n00b
[10:23] <NoUse> dooglus did you read what ubotu responded to you with? it tells you what to do
[10:23] <ganhongsen> bye, thx trappist, Ubotu, NoUse
[10:23] <zblach> painkiler, you're sutch a n00b
[10:23] <dooglus> NoUse: I did.  It didn't work.
[10:23] <NoUse> dooglus it does work
[10:23] <dooglus> NoUse: I would show you, but you would get upset.
[10:23] <Agrajag> painkiler_: don't you think it'd be a really bad idea to have a default root pasword ;)
[10:23] <NoUse> dooglus /msg ubotu kernel
[10:23] <dooglus> NoUse: I did that.
[10:23] <zblach> any particular reason why projected memory use never drops? i'm hardly running anything
[10:23] <Chris_Tucker> how do change which device i control when i click my vol icon once (master, pcm, headphone) aswell as my keyboard vol up/down?
[10:23] <pluffsy> if gnome doesn't work (black screen and mouse) what can I try to do except reinstall ubuntu-desktop and gdm?
[10:24] <NoUse> dooglus that works for me
[10:24] <dooglus> NoUse: what does it tell you?
[10:24] <chris__> how do i read emails that are in /var/mail/user ?
[10:24] <dooglus> NoUse: I see a message about how kernel is disabled in the configuration
[10:24] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: u get a term via "ctrl+alt+f1" ?
[10:24] <mindtzar> see when a file is colored red or green when you do ls on console, and you can
[10:24] <Digis> chris__, "more /var/mail/user"
[10:24] <mindtzar> and when you try to run and it says "no such file"
[10:25] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, yeah. and kde works.
[10:25] <mindtzar> why does that happen, and how can I run it from console?
[10:25] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: even gdm by itself doesn't work?
[10:25] <teenz> !rootsudo
[10:25] <ubotu> rootsudo is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[10:25] <chris__> Digis, is there a pop3 server i can configure so i can read it remotely?
[10:25] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, I get the graphical login. so gdm seems to work I guess?
[10:25] <hachre> mindtzar, you have to do ./file instead of file to start it
[10:25] <dooglus> NoUse: looks like a problem with the bot.  Works for some people and not others?
[10:25] <Chris_Tucker> how do change which device i control when i click my vol icon once (master, pcm, headphone) aswell as my keyboard vol up/down?
[10:25] <mindtzar> ah, okay
[10:25] <hachre> mindtzar, it only starts files from within the path variable that way
[10:26] <NoUse> dooglus kernel is an internal command for that kind of bot
[10:26] <Digis> chris__, postfix+qpopper
[10:26] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: could be kdm if you installed kubuntu-desktop and kdm...  but in any event, have you tried logging into gnome as a different user?  maybe your profile is messed up
[10:26] <NoUse> dooglus did you get the msg from ubotu?
[10:26] <hachre> mindtzar, also - if they are text files that are executeable - like perl scripts, bash files etc - they neet #!/bin/sh or #!/bin/perl or whatever interpreter they need in their first line to make it work
[10:26] <dooglus> NoUse: I got the one you sent.
[10:26] <dooglus> NoUse: see http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4584
[10:26] <NoUse> !tell dooglus about yourself
[10:26] <mindtzar> thanks hachre
[10:26] <hachre> mindtzar, otherwise you can use bash file or perl file.pl or something to start those files
[10:26] <Digis> chris__, "apt-cache search pop3 server"
[10:26] <hachre> mindtzar, np
[10:26] <Chris_Tucker> how do change which device i control when i click my vol icon once (master, pcm, headphone) aswell as my keyboard vol up/down?
[10:26] <lightseek> hello
[10:27] <NoUse> dooglus basically kernel was a bad choice for a keyword
[10:27] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, no quite it's gdm. the kdm login looks different. and it says gdm starting on boot and so on. I haven't tried a differnet user. thanks for the tip.
[10:27] <lightseek> I just installed Ubuntu breeze!  and connected to internet by using pon. but how can I ise kppp the graphical login?
[10:27] <orlandu> Hello, I am having some trouble setting up some SMB shares (trying to share HD with XBox Media Center). Is there a way I can test my shares from my ubuntu machine (the same machine as the shares are on), as I don't get any indication back from the Xbox as to what's going wrong?
[10:27] <dooglus> NoUse: so "/msg ubotu kernel" doesn't work for anyone?
[10:27] <NoUse> dooglus no
[10:28] <dooglus> NoUse: yet ubotu still suggests that people should use it.
[10:28] <hedonick> Chris_Tucker: right click the icon to get a menu with "preferences" or somesuch in it
[10:28] <bur[n] er> orlandu: alt+f2, smb://ubuntuhostname
[10:28] <dooglus> NoUse: that looks like a bug in the bot to me
[10:28] <NoUse> dooglus ok
[10:28] <bur[n] er> orlandu: i share with xbox media center just dandy
[10:28] <lightseek> anyone know please?
[10:28] <lightseek> is it safe to connect to internet using "pon providername" ?
[10:29] <lightseek> how come apt-get update
[10:29] <lightseek>  doesnt work?  says no permissions
[10:29] <orlandu> bur[n] er, thanks - I'll try that! Sharing looks like it ought to be easy, but I set up my smb.conf, restart samba, and try to connect with the Xbox - it just freezes up for a couple of minutes, and then tells me it can't find anything!
[10:29] <Chris_Tucker> hedonick, thanks, that worked for clicking on the icon, but how do i go about changeing which device my keyboard vol up/down controls? (this function was auto-found by ubuntu breezy, no foreign drivers are used)
[10:29] <NoUse> lightstar you need to run with sudo
[10:29] <AndyR> lo all
[10:29] <lightseek> NoUse, so "sudo apt-get update" ?
[10:30] <bur[n] er> orlandu: use IPs instead of hostnames, it works better
[10:30] <dooglus> lightseek: yes
[10:30] <lightseek> NoUse, i need to use sudo every time when installing?
[10:30] <hedonick> Chris_Tucker: no idea about that though.
[10:30] <NoUse> lightseek yes
[10:30] <bur[n] er> orlandu: also make sure you did "smbpasswd -a" to add a samba user :)
[10:30] <lightseek> dooglus, every time for everything?
[10:30] <Chris_Tucker> hedonick, thanks for the help
[10:30] <NoUse> lightseek yes
[10:30] <dooglus> lightseek: only for programs which need to be run as root.
[10:30] <lightseek> NoUse, can I log in as "su i" and then only use apt-get ?
[10:30] <dooglus> lightseek: or you can log in as root.  "sudo -i"
[10:30] <Chris_Tucker> How would i go about changeing which audio device my keyboard vol up/down control?
[10:30] <lightseek> dooglus, ok great
[10:31] <lightseek> dooglus, Im now connected to internet by using pon. but how can I ise kppp the graphical login?  any ideas?  is it apt-get install kppp ?
[10:31] <orlandu> bur[n] er, I'm using IPs already, but I haven't used smbpasswd - I (apparently foolishly!) assumed it would work with my ubuntu login
[10:31] <dooglus> lightseek: I have no idea.
[10:31] <hachre> lightseek, try www.ubuntuforums.org
[10:31] <lightseek> dooglus, how can I see how long my internet connection been?  or any modem lights?
[10:31] <hachre> search there
[10:32] <lightseek> any way to see modem activity?
[10:32] <dooglus> lightseek: I don't even know what pon is.  I just use an ethernet card.
[10:32] <NoUse> lightseek if you right click on the panel and click "add to panel" there might be an applet for that
[10:32] <Nihil85> HI! I have a problem with /.dmrc. when gnome start, it says that ".dmrc has incorrect permissions, taht should be owned by user and have 644 permission". It keep telling me this also if i'm the owner and the CHMOD is setted to 644. Why?
[10:32] <Chris_Tucker> How would i go about changeing which audio device my keyboard vol up/down control?
[10:32] <hachre> lightseek, you can maybe start ifconfig to see if any bytes are coming in or out
[10:33] <dooglus> Nihil85: what does "ls -ld ~" show?
[10:33] <Nihil85> nihil@Olidata:~$ ls -ld ~
[10:33] <Nihil85> drwxrwx---  62 nihil nihil 4096 2005-11-15 21:26 /home/nihil
[10:33] <Nihil85>  dooglus
[10:34] <dooglus> Nihil85: it's because your home dir is group writable.  "chmod g-w ~" will fix it
[10:34] <SGershon> Hi HiddenWolf.
[10:34] <mindtzar> whats the command to install a package from command line?
[10:34] <dooglus> mindtzar: "sudo apt-get install <package>"
[10:34] <NoUse> mindtzar sudo apt-get install package
[10:34] <psusi> apt-get install package
[10:34] <mindtzar> thanks :)
[10:34] <Nihil85> dooglus, i've done it. later i will restart and see what happens
[10:34] <mindtzar> I'm so glad there is a channel like this
[10:34] <dooglus> mindtzar: if you already have the .deb file:  "sudo dpkg -i <deb-file>"
[10:34] <Chris_Tucker> How would i go about changeing which audio device my keyboard vol up/down control?
[10:34] <HiddenWolf> hi guys
[10:35] <jasongrieves> anyone really familiar with X?
[10:35] <mindtzar> okay, thanks dooglus
[10:35] <jasongrieves> + vfb?
[10:35] <_null> I'd like to have my system speaker beeping once. How do I do this in a shell script?
[10:36] <hachre> _null: i know you have to echo some special character
[10:36] <hachre> _null: try googling for bash echo beep or something
[10:36] <_null> ok
[10:36] <dooglus> _null: control-g is the BEL character.  try echoing that.
[10:36] <Nihil85> dooglus, do you have a wireless lan?
[10:37] <_null> dooglus, how do I echo control?
[10:37] <dooglus> Nihil85: there is one in the building.  I don't use it.
[10:37] <lightseek> anyone here who knows how to install the GUI kppp and modem login application please?
[10:37] <dooglus> _null: what editor are you using?
[10:37] <_null> vi
[10:37] <dooglus> _null: type control-v control-g to get a control-g in vi
[10:37] <Nihil85> is there anybody who use a wireless lan?
[10:37] <ithiel> question: could system("echo blahblah"); be used in place of printf("blahblah"); for any practical reason?
[10:38] <hachre> dooglus, how do you do that in nano?
[10:38] <dooglus> hachre: I quit nano, start vi, and type ^v^g  :)
[10:38] <hachre> lol ;)
[10:38] <lightseek> does anyone here use a modem?
[10:38] <dooglus> hachre: or: quit nano, start emacs and type ^q^g
[10:38] <Nihil85> i have a big problem, i cannot access the shared folder. the window appears but suddenly it freezes. why? how can i fix this bug?
[10:38] <NoUse> lightseek did you get the modem lights going?
[10:39] <hachre> dooglus, i only know nano :P
[10:39] <dooglus> hachre: if you know nano, why are you asking me???
[10:39] <greedyb> hey I had already setup my repositories but I havent been on my compuiter in a while and when I goto the package manager I get errors now.  Where can I find the newest ones?
[10:39] <hachre> lol
[10:39] <hachre> good point :)
[10:39] <selinium> Where does xterm keep its congif files?
[10:39] <a1exmr> who can help-me with a ext3 partition with superblock problem ?
[10:39] <selinium> Where does xterm keep its config files?
[10:39] <selinium> doh!
[10:40] <nalioth> selinium: .bashrc
[10:40] <selinium> Cheers nalioth :)
[10:40] <lightseek> NoUse, yeah its sitting on taskbar but it says its active but unable to get connection time
[10:40] <nalioth> selinium: the cornerstone of your box, my good man, is a good .bashrc
[10:40] <dabaR> How do I add to my java classpath?
[10:40] <denton> does anyone know a tool to download whole domains by spidering?
[10:40] <lightseek> NoUse, any fix for that I wonder
[10:40] <topyli> banshee insists on making a directory called My Music in my home dir. what was the trick to hide directories in gnome?
[10:40] <pluffsy> hello
[10:41] <paoladav> hwllo
[10:41] <greedyb> anyone know the list for repositories?? I guess mine is out of date
[10:41] <paoladav> ops hello
[10:41] <NoUse> lightseek try installing gnome-ppp for graphical dial up app
[10:41] <selinium> nalioth, I have minced it by sticking a tiff file as a background. I was only playing....
[10:41] <dooglus> nalioth: .bashrc has settings for xterm?
[10:41] <NoUse> lightseek https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[10:41] <orbx> Can anyone suggest a good FTP client to use on ubuntu
[10:41] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, still doesn't work. any other ideas? :/
[10:41] <barongas> orbx gftp
[10:41] <greedyb> yeah gftp
[10:41] <jasongrieves> dabaR export PATH=path_to_java:$PATH
[10:41] <Nihil85> orbx, every client that is not gftp
[10:41] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: doesn't work as another user?
[10:42] <dooglus> nalioth: I think .bashrc has settings only for bash (hence its name)
[10:42] <selinium> nalioth, sorry can you tell me the location exactly as I have not the use of xterm at the mo...
[10:42] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: yeah, reinstall ubuntu-desktop ;)
[10:42] <orbx> lol, ok what can you suggest Nihil
[10:42] <lightseek> NoUse, thanks ill have a look
[10:42] <dooglus> selinium: what are you trying to set?
[10:42] <greedyb> anyone know the list for repositories?? I guess mine is out of date
[10:42] <britishseapower> whats the ubuntu equivalent of the startup folder...
[10:42] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, again? :/ and no didn't work with different user
[10:42] <britishseapower> i.e. how do i get stuff to auotmatically start
[10:42] <topyli> oh yeah. it's .hidden of course
[10:42] <lightseek> NoUse, Couldn't find package gnome-ppp
[10:42] <a1exmr> http://edseek.com/archives/2004/02/25/ext3-filesystem-bad-superblock-recovery/  anyone can try to help-me with my partition ?
[10:42] <topyli> britishseapower: no such folder. edit your session preferences
[10:42] <NoUse> lightseek well read the link i sent you, it talks about that kinda stuff
[10:43] <selinium> dooglus: unset the background image file
[10:43] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: oh, i have no idea... odd that gnome doesn't work yet kde does :\
[10:43] <Nihil85> orbx, i still have no found something similar to a REAL ftp client, like smartftp or flashfxp in windows
[10:43] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: learn to love KDE ;)
[10:43] <dooglus> britishseapower: system->preferences->session
[10:43] <britishseapower> ok...ta...looking now.
[10:43] <bur[n] er> Nihil85: help the gftp people ;)  I just want drag'n'drop k? ;)
[10:43] <topyli> bur[n] er: naah, we have real session manager already
[10:43] <dooglus> selinium: xterms don't have background images.  are you sure it's an xterm?
[10:44] <selinium> dooglus, they do if you set them up in profiles
[10:44] <britishseapower> excellent...i see..ta...very impressed with ubuntu so far..very intuitive.
[10:44] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: there's always xubuntu-desktop ;)
[10:44] <dooglus> selinium: how are you running the xterm?
[10:44] <orbx> Nihil, this is my first time using linux because i used to program in asp so i used windows, But i have converted to php. Is this to big of a question but how do you set up an apache server on ubuntu
[10:44] <nalioth> dooglus: xterm is a bash shell for most people
[10:44] <britishseapower> another question...font in the gui for VLC looks v odd...whats with that.
[10:44] <lightseek> NoUse, ok
[10:44] <nalioth> selinium: ~/.bashrc
[10:44] <bur[n] er> orbx: check the wiki?
[10:44] <dooglus> nalioth: xterm is a terminal emulator.  bash runs inside it.  they're two different programs.
[10:44] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, btw when I did the --reinstall of ubuntu-desktop I think it went a little too fast. I mainly saw openoffice packages flash by. maybe I should try some other meta package for reinstalling gnome?
[10:45] <bur[n] er> !tell orbx about apache
[10:45] <selinium> dooglus, either by Alt-F2/xterm or through Apps/Accessories/term
[10:45] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, or try to apt-get remove or something?
[10:45] <nalioth> selinium: .xtermrc or .termrc in your homedir
[10:45] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: i'd say start with messing with metacity
[10:45] <dooglus> selinium: apps/accessories/term runs a gnome-terminal I think.
[10:45] <dooglus> selinium: if you alt-f2/xterm do you see the same?
[10:46] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: sudo apt-get remove --purge metacity gnome-panel; then get the ubuntu-desktop again
[10:46] <Moema> hi there guys
[10:46] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: might want to get rid of nautilus too
[10:46] <orlandu> When I try to look at my SMB share using Alt+F2, smb://IP, the first time I get the following message <<Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: 192.168.2.8".>>, but the second and subsequent times, it works fine. Does anyone know why this might be?
[10:46] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, alright. thanks
[10:46] <spstarr_work> Anyone know if the Ubuntu/Debian installer supports Red Hat kickstart files?
[10:46] <lightseek> NoUse, this tells me the connection time and current time at least: ps awux | grep pppd
[10:46] <spstarr_work> if so, any how tos?
[10:47] <spstarr_work> I know there's a redhat-config-kickstart package in debian/ubuntu somewhere
[10:47] <Moema> just installed ubuntu, but I get a /etc/resolv.conf problem..it showes only nameserver 192.168.1.1 and not the nameservers of my ISP
[10:47] <NoUse> lightseek thats good
[10:47] <thrush> http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/
[10:47] <Moema> how do I change this permanent?
[10:47] <britishseapower> orlandu: i also have some funny stuff happening like that with smb
[10:47] <bur[n] er> Moema: don't use DHCP... or tell your DHCP server to kick out more DNS servers
[10:47] <thrush> sorry wrong screen
[10:47] <kwalo> hello, anyone here using fluxbox, or blackbox ?
[10:47] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, how should I get the ubuntu-desktop? apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop ?
[10:47] <selinium> dooglus: nope, your right they are different!
[10:47] <aris> hi people
[10:48] <Moema> ok..i try
[10:48] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: just install
[10:48] <orlandu> britishseapower, have you any ideas how to start resolving the problem?
[10:48] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, ok
[10:48] <blackhat> Whats a good EASY program to use to rip DVDS fully in linux?
[10:48] <aris> I have a little problem with firefox under ubuntu : under gentoo, I could use the third mouse button to directly load a link into firefox. How can I make this to work with ubuntu ?
[10:48] <dooglus> selinium: xterm doesn't have the background, right?  and the gnome-terminal has a gui for setting up background images
[10:49] <bur[n] er> aris: works for me with no changes :\
[10:49] <aris> blackhat, k3b works good to extract an image
[10:49] <aris> but not to compress a dvd-video
[10:49] <selinium> xterm has no background. gnome-terminal looks like the one I am having issues with.
[10:49] <lightseek> NoUse, that website doesnt mention about a for graphical dial up app!  any other ideas?
[10:49] <aris> bur[n] er, it's strange because i've seen that behaviour on both hoary/breezy systems
[10:50] <blackhat> aris, i want to be able to put in the dvd and have it create an ISO from it so I can burn it
[10:50] <dooglus> selinium: do you see the menu-bar at the top of gnome-termianl?
[10:50] <kwalo> blackhat, try handbrake int's nice and easy
[10:50] <blackhat> k3b would involve me installing the whole KDE system
[10:50] <aris> hmm
[10:50] <NoUse> lightseek I thought it mentioned you could use the gnome network settings manager but I've never used dial-up in Linux
[10:50] <bur[n] er> blackhat: http://www.gnomefiles.org/search.php?search=dvd
[10:50] <bur[n] er> aris: is it a middle mouse click?
[10:50] <aris> blackhat, don't you have a few megabytes for that poor kde ?
[10:50] <aris> bur[n] er, yep, the scroller button
[10:50] <blackhat> aris its 400mb
[10:51] <aris> the one I use to cut/paste with X
[10:51] <blackhat> =/
[10:51] <bur[n] er> aris: that's what I use :\  maybe it's a firefox setting?
[10:51] <selinium> dooglus: if I try to open gnome-terminal it crashes my machine at the mo... need to remove tiff file from background image first!
[10:51] <blackhat> and I don't use KDE.
[10:51] <lightseek> NoUse, it must be talking about old ubuntu for 5.10 breeze doesnt even have gnome-kppp as the website mentions
[10:51] <blackhat> I would use DVD::Rip but they don't make an amd64 version
[10:51] <garrincha> i use k3b with gnome
[10:51] <dooglus> selinium: ok.  I can find the gconfd setting for you.  just a mo.
[10:51] <aris> bur[n] er, I tryed to raw-import my older .mozilla settings but it crashed firefox
[10:51] <NoUse> lightseek have you looked at the gnome network settings?
[10:51] <lightseek> has anyone here using Breeze got a graphical dial up app working?
[10:51] <lightseek> NoUse, how I load that?
[10:51] <NoUse> lightseek System -> Administration
[10:52] <blackhat> Yeah but I don't use gnome or kde
[10:52] <blackhat> why would I want to install something I am not going to use?
[10:52] <bur[n] er> aris: by raw-import you mean "rm -rf ~/.mozilla && cp /my/other/.mozilla ~/" ??
[10:52] <selinium> dooglus: found it!
[10:52] <dooglus> selinium: ok
[10:52] <aris> bur[n] er, more or less
[10:52] <aris> I finaly just copied my bookmarks, cookies and forms-entry files
[10:53] <bur[n] er> aris: you have to remove the current one first
[10:53] <aris> i did
[10:53] <bur[n] er> i don't see an option in firefox :\  not sure how to get it work aris, sorry
[10:53] <aris> hmm will see on #firefox
[10:53] <aris> thanks for your help
[10:53] <xodocu> help!!
[10:54] <mfire> i need a help getting a LAN internet connection ( PPPoE ) to work on ubuntu , the suggestion to download rp-pppoe cant be accomplished as i need internet connection to download it, i cant get it on the ubuntu machine..
[10:54] <xodocu> alguien me puede ayudar
[10:54] <nalioth> !es
[10:54] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:54] <mfire> the pppoeconfig fosent seems to do th work..
[10:54] <bur[n] er> blackhat: tried thoggen?
[10:54] <aris> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4926.html
[10:54] <mobus> I just plugged in my webcam, how do I enable it?
[10:54] <dooglus> selinium: where was it?
[10:54] <aris> Disabling middlemouse.contentLoadURL brings the
[10:54] <aris> interface more in line with what new users will
[10:54] <aris> expect. It is easy to enable for the advanced users
[10:54] <aris> that do want it enabled and impossible to disable for
[10:54] <aris> the simple users that will find it troubling.
[10:54] <selinium> dooglus, nalioth : gnome-terminal all present and correct now!
[10:54] <blackhat> thoggen?
[10:55] <bur[n] er> blackhat: it's a dvd ripper
[10:55] <bur[n] er> aris: good work
[10:55] <selinium> dooglus, /home/james/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/%gconf.xml
[10:55] <blackhat> I'm going to try it
[10:55] <nalioth> aris: please read the /topic when you enter channels
[10:55] <nalioth> aris: pasting is extremely rude to everyone
[10:55] <aris> sorry, i didn't notice the \n between lines in my browser
[10:56] <mobus> someone? how do I enable my webcam?
[10:56] <selinium> mobus: give people a chance!
[10:56] <bur[n] er> mobus: plug it in... that's it
[10:56] <mobus> it works not
[10:56] <blackhat> bur[n] er thats for ogg
[10:56] <mobus> its plugged in
[10:56] <blackhat> I want to make a DVD to DVD
[10:57] <selinium> mobus: try it with applications/internet/gnome meeting
[10:57] <bur[n] er> blackhat: yeah?  so what?
[10:57] <bur[n] er> blackhat: ogg is nice :)
[10:57] <stratovarius> guys I have problems with my amule graphic. here is a photo http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4586 what could the rpoblem be?
[10:57] <gnomefreak> is there an extras backport for breezy?
[10:57] <aris> wow didn't know about that about:config trick
[10:57] <Digis> stratovarius, U should instal wxwidgets gtk2
[10:57] <bur[n] er> aris: about:plugins is handy too :)
[10:58] <mfire> hmm, anyone about setting the PPPoE?!
[10:58] <NoUse> !tell mfire about pppod
[10:58] <NoUse> !tell mfire about pppoe
[10:58] <jandusion> hey..
[10:58] <stratovarius> Digis: how to? sudo apt-get install wxwidgets gtk2?
[10:58] <jandusion> men i need some help
[10:58] <selinium> jandusion, fire away!
[10:58] <NoUse> stratovarius search wxwidgets in synaptic
[10:59] <gnomefreak> Jandusion: cant help unless we know the issue
[10:59] <jandusion> heh, umm me noob so how do i logg into root
[10:59] <NoUse> !tell jandusion about root
[10:59] <selinium> jandusion, you dont, use sudo instead
[10:59] <jandusion> ty
[10:59] <Astxist> heh
[10:59] <selinium> jandusion, :) no probs!
[10:59] <blackhat> how do I run handbrake when its done kwalo
[10:59] <herni> when i right-click desktop in gnome i get less options in menu than i should (no "scripts" or "terminal")
[10:59] <lightseek> I read a website it said: get gnome-ppp from the repositories!  But when I try to install it says doesnt exist!  any ideas?
[10:59] <gnomefreak> herni, thats normal
[11:00] <Digis> stratovarius, install libwxgtk2.6-0
[11:00] <jasongrieves> anyone really familiar with X and vfb?
[11:00] <Astxist> heh I messed with my dial up for ages to get it working :)
[11:00] <NoUse> !info gnome-ppp
[11:00] <ubotu> gnome-ppp: (modem internet connection tool for GNOME), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.3.21-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 81 kB, Installed size: 608 kB
[11:00] <herni> i have just been reading HowTo guide by someone... it says i should
[11:00] <NoUse> lightseek gnome-ppp does exist
[11:00] <NoUse> lightseek you need to enable universe
[11:00] <aris> lightseek, did you add universe in your apt sources ?
[11:01] <GhostFreeman> Any way to enable VNC from a secure shell
[11:01] <GhostFreeman> or is this a GNOME only thing
[11:01] <[wonder] > hi guys...i have o problem..i install ubuntu 5.10 and the installer dont ask for root password...what i should do?
[11:01] <NoUse> GhostFreeman just tunnel the VNC port
[11:01] <lightseek> NoUse, when I type apt-get install gnome-kppp it says this: E: Couldn't find package gnome-kppp
[11:01] <britishseapower> i cant seem to get bluetooth working with my 6230i
[11:01] <stratovarius> Digis: libwxgtk2.6-0 not found !
[11:01] <NoUse> !tell [wonder]  about root
[11:01] <aris> lightseek, gnome-ppp i'd say
[11:01] <Astxist> you have to add universe to your sources.list
[11:01] <GhostFreeman> tunnel, do you mean access it with a VNC client
[11:01] <Chris_Tucker> GhostFreeman, if you have your user logged in, export DISPLAY=:0
[11:02] <Astxist> and do apt-get update
[11:02] <selinium> GhostFreeman, are you using VNC for remote desktop?
[11:02] <kwalo> [wonder]  you don't need root password, only sudo
[11:02] <Astxist> *sudo apt-get update
[11:02] <gnomefreak> [wonder] , there isnt a "root" password you use sudo instead and its your user passsword
[11:02] <Chris_Tucker> GhostFreeman, then start vnc
[11:02] <NoUse> lightseek the doc said gnome-ppp, not gnome-kppp
[11:02] <stratovarius> Digis: maybe i didnt have good repos, can this be the problem?
[11:02] <lightseek> NoUse, when I type apt-get update it doesnt load anything!  it says system is upto date!  but I just installed Breeze from a CD
[11:03] <NoUse> !tell lightseek about repos
[11:03] <GhostFreeman> How can I start VNC from the shell?
[11:03] <lightseek> NoUse, same thing; it said:  Couldn't find package gnome-ppp
[11:03] <NoUse> lightseek replace your /etc/apt/sources.list with the breezy sources list ubotu sent you
[11:03] <Chris_Tucker> GhostFreeman, same way you would in a terminal
[11:03] <blackhat> So your telling me K3B can RIP DVD CDS and I can burn them to a blank DVD-R and play it in a DVD Player?
[11:03] <stratovarius> Digis:???
[11:03] <GhostFreeman> and the command is?
[11:03] <dooglus> selinium: I found how you should have fixed your gnome-terminal problem...
[11:03] <selinium> lightseek, listen to NoUse, I was just going to say that!
[11:04] <selinium> dooglus, ? I did fix it!
[11:04] <[wonder] > 10x
[11:04] <lightseek> NoUse,  ah ok!  Thats something that every new user should know!  Can we add that to the Topic?
[11:04] <russ_> anyone know why after i downloaded kubuntu-desktop, and started using kde, my external hard-drive is being a bitch
[11:04] <dooglus> selinium: run applications->system-tools->configuration-editor and navigate to /apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/<profile>/background_image
[11:04] <Chris_Tucker> GhostFreeman, dont know, ive never gotten vnc working, i used rfb untill breezy
[11:04] <russ_> by "bitch" i mean
[11:04] <dooglus> selinium: you shouldn't edit the .xml file directly
[11:04] <russ_> not automounting correctly
[11:04] <GhostFreeman> I'm still on Hoary
[11:04] <kwalo> is it possible to launch some applications, when i start blackbox session
[11:05] <lightseek> NoUse, so do I copy and paste that whole thing from http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325  into /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[11:05] <selinium> dooglus, I see that. but it is only xml! If i cant edit that I should have my hands cut off!
[11:05] <Chris_Tucker> GhostFreeman, if you have the extra repositories enabled, then sudo apt-get install rfb
[11:05] <Knowerrors> Hell yall, can anybody answer the question in my post here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89854 ?
[11:05] <stratovarius> who can give me a good source list? NoUse:dont send me the ubotu message bout repos
[11:05] <Digis> stratovarius, Section: universe/libs
[11:05] <GhostFreeman> i'll just go with rfb
[11:06] <gnomefreak> stratovarius, are you on breezy?
[11:06] <stratovarius> on hoary
[11:06] <Chris_Tucker> GhostFreeman, as i said.. sudo apt-get install rfb
[11:06] <GhostFreeman> is there a rfb client for NT and OS X?
[11:06] <gnomefreak> oh i have breezy sources list on my site
[11:06] <dooglus> selinium: the problem is that the daemon which owns that file is currently running, and may overwrite your changes.
[11:06] <gnomefreak> i dont have hoary sorry
[11:06] <stratovarius> gnoemfreak dpnt worry tnx a lot
[11:06] <selinium> dooglus. OK :) YOu are right... as usual! :D
[11:07] <dooglus> selinium: be good :)
[11:07] <selinium> dooglus, I'll try, but the voices keep telling me to ........
[11:07] <selinium> :)
[11:07] <dooglus> selinium: what was the problem?  did you delete the image file that g-t was using as its background?
[11:07] <GhostFreeman> oh, rfb is the VNC protocol
[11:07] <GhostFreeman> Now I get it
[11:07] <mfire> man, this thing explaind about the PPPoE dosent works for me...
[11:07] <Chris_Tucker> GhostFreeman, once you have that, make sure the user your logged into with SSH matches the user currently logged on (doesnt work in login screen) and "export DISPLAY=:0"
[11:07] <jandusion> im trying to install skype with apt/get install skype in monitor but i get  Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)..... what do i do now_
[11:07] <gnomefreak> !tell stratovarius about sources
[11:07] <Chris_Tucker> GhostFreeman, rfb is a fancy easy to set up vnc server
[11:08] <gnomefreak> stratovarius, there is a link there for hoary sources
[11:08] <GhostFreeman> alright
[11:08] <GhostFreeman> done
[11:08] <lightseek> selinium, do I copy and paste that whole thing from http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325  into /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[11:08] <CTPAYC> I have my laptop hooked up to a tv via svideo cable how do i make the tv show my laptop?
[11:08] <mfire> i get some some problem with the connection
[11:08] <GhostFreeman> and then, just connect to the rfb server?
[11:08] <selinium> dooglus, No it let me use a large tiff file. it just locked up gnome as soon as it tried to open term
[11:08] <jandusion> im trying to install skype with apt/get install skype in monitor but i get  Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)..... what do i do now??
[11:08] <SamuelG> hello
[11:08] <topyli> bah. rhythmbox still doesn't work with streams
[11:09] <selinium> lightseek, If that is the breezy one yes. completely over write the old one
[11:09] <dooglus> I am moving several Gb of data from this Linux box to a Windows server for burning to DVD.  It's going OK, but the Linux box has slowed to a crawl.  Everything is taking minutes when it used to be instant.  Is there any way I can make the transfer less intensive?
[11:09] <gnomefreak> Jandusion: its sudo apt-get install skype
[11:09] <Chris_Tucker> GhostFreeman, once you have the export line done, then type x0rfbserver in the ssh window... and then set up a password (on the real screen) .. then you're done.. next time you do this, it wont need any input from the server computer besides to have the user running the vnc server logged in to the local terminal
[11:09] <lightseek> selinium, ok thanks
[11:09] <jandusion> ok
[11:09] <gnomefreak> if you can even install skype that way
[11:09] <selinium> jandusion, you have synaptic open. It will not allow two package managers to run at the same time
[11:09] <britishseapower> ok simple one...i want to rid myself of totem, how...i'd like all my video files to open with VLC ?
[11:09] <GhostFreeman> awesome
[11:09] <SamuelG> Could someone help me please? I can't install xmms via apt-get ... what is happening?
[11:09] <blackhat> when I load up K3b and I try to copy a dvd it says it cannot copy encyrpted dvds what should I do to bypass this?
[11:10] <barongas> lightseek, which repository do you find skype in?
[11:10] <dooglus> 'top' tells me the box is 86% idle - but it's SOOOO slow
[11:10] <Chris_Tucker> anyone know how to change which sound device my keyboard vol up/down buttons control?
[11:10] <GhostFreeman> Wellark_: it was until it said something about not opening display :O
[11:10] <gnomefreak> blackhat,  break the encryption that the companiues use so you cant record it
[11:10] <GhostFreeman> erm :0
[11:10] <jandusion> i new to linux ubuntu.... so i dont realy know much
[11:10] <gnomefreak> but u didnt hear that from me
[11:10] <barongas> jandusion, ok, but you found skype on apt?
[11:10] <blackhat> gnomefreak; i can record it in windows, not linux.
[11:11] <britishseapower> qqqqqq
[11:11] <dooglus> blackhat: I don't see why you can't copy encrypted data - it's still just data, and DVD players know how to decrypt it, so what's the problem?
[11:11] <steigweis> my mic is not working on skype.. how can i check, whats wrong?
[11:11] <jandusion> umm a m8 tild me the command... he got ubuntu aswell
[11:11] <blackhat> dooglus, it wont COPY on the computer in linux
[11:11] <CTPAYC> Jandusion, www.ubuntuguide.org
[11:11] <Chris_Tucker> GhostFreeman, the user logged into ssh has to match the user that is logged in to gnome/kde/xfce... on the computer itself, and you have to do the "export DISPLAY=:0"
[11:11] <selinium> barongas, if you install the repos ubotu just sent you... you will have skype aswell
[11:11] <gnomefreak> blackhat,  what are you trying to copy?
[11:11] <NoUse> !tell CTPAYC about ubuntuguide
[11:11] <GhostFreeman> yeah, it does
[11:11] <lightseek> barongas, no idea, my first day
[11:11] <dooglus> blackhat: I heard you.  I'm wondering why, is it.
[11:11] <barongas> selinium, sweet thanks
[11:12] <selinium> barongas, np
[11:12] <cb400f> can anyone recommend a wireless network card (pcmcia/usb) which is supported by ubuntu 5.10 out of the box?
[11:12] <GhostFreeman> wait, do I need to be both in GNOME and in SSH
[11:12] <Chris_Tucker> yes
[11:12] <GhostFreeman> because I dont even have a moni on this box
[11:12] <GhostFreeman> doh
[11:12] <lightseek> how do I play mp3 on Breeze?
[11:12] <blackhat> =/
[11:12] <NoUse> !tell lightseek about mp3
[11:12] <Glassius> what's the best way of having a partition span over several harddrives in ubuntu? raid, lvm, evms?
[11:12] <jbroome> !codecs
[11:12] <ubotu> from memory, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:12] <selinium> CTPAYC, jandusion do not use/recommend ubuntuguide!
[11:12] <robotgeek> cb400f: check the wireless wiki.
[11:12] <CTPAYC> ... thats kinda stupid
[11:12] <CTPAYC> weird way to use a bot
[11:12] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell cb400f about wireless
[11:12] <SamuelG> lightseek, you need to install xmms
[11:12] <britishseapower> ok simple one...i want to rid myself of totem, how...i'd like all my video files to open with VLC ?
[11:12] <glick> cb400f, pretty much any linksys
[11:12] <Chris_Tucker> GhostFreeman,  ah... problem.. as i dont know how to make it log you into gnome without local input
[11:12] <Chris_Tucker> anyone know how to change which sound device my keyboard vol up/down buttons control?
[11:13] <britishseapower> how do i tell ubuntu to open all .avi files with vlc?
[11:13] <GhostFreeman> Damn
[11:13] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get remove totem
[11:13] <darksoul> any idea on why doom3-demo seems to be slow?
[11:13] <GhostFreeman> I can hook a monitor up to it, etc
[11:13] <jbroome> it's a pig of a program? :)
[11:13] <Chris_Tucker> GhostFreeman, you're next question should be "how do i log into gnome remotely?" :)
[11:13] <NoUse> britishseapower right click on an avi file and click properties, then go to the "open with..." tab
[11:13] <ithiel> darksoul, ? its doom3 and you're asking why its slow?
[11:13] <GhostFreeman> lol
[11:13] <gnomefreak> lol ithiel
[11:13] <Astxist> heh
[11:13] <CTPAYC> ubuntuguide helpme a lot? not on installing no but helped me find paths and how to install using tar and deb etc
[11:13] <Chris_Tucker> GhostFreeman, could be a pain in the. ... to do that often
[11:13] <NoUse> darksoul what are your specs?
[11:13] <GhostFreeman> tell me about it
[11:13] <NoUse> CTPAYC it breaks PCs now
[11:13] <CTPAYC> dont forsake old knowledge :)
[11:14] <CTPAYC> yah
[11:14] <CTPAYC> if you use it as an install guide
[11:14] <ithiel> gnomefreak, I have an AMD 3500 and a GeForce 6800GT, and Quake4 still smacks me in the face like a french whore
[11:14] <NoUse> CTPAYC the new faq is better
[11:14] <CTPAYC> however the unix codes haven't changed much
[11:14] <blackhat> Anyone here copy encyrpted DVDS, like putting in a dvd movie, making it an iso on the computer, then burning it to a new dvd disc and playing it?
[11:14] <GhostFreeman> Is it wrong to still use Windows for games
[11:14] <darksoul> ithiel: i downloaded the linux version, the demo, i have a 1.4ghz cpu, 384mb ram, my 3d card is a XTASY 9600SE 128mb 8X AGP graphics by ATI
[11:14] <gnomefreak> CTPAYC, the problem is that some things in there dont work or break things some might work but noone can say weather or not what worked for you will work for them and not break their pc
[11:14] <roshan> any instructions for setting up swsusp2 in dapper?
[11:14] <selinium> CTPAYC, will you be around to help fix the broken PCs from users who have borked there machines from following ubuntuguide?
[11:15] <ithiel> darksoul, sorry man, but your ATI is going to kill you on Linux, its bad enough that ATI's suck for Doom3 in the first place
[11:15] <dooglus> blackhat: what if you just copy the .iso from the disk using 'dd'?  and then burn it using k3b?
[11:15] <CTPAYC> thats life :)
[11:15] <glick> man if they released civ 4 for linux id be the happiest boy
[11:15] <aris> dooglus, won't work
[11:15] <GhostFreeman> I used my ATI for Doom3-demo
[11:15] <dooglus> blackhat: I've not tried it
[11:15] <NoUse> darksoul thats probably why
[11:15] <dooglus> aris: why not?
[11:15] <ithiel> darksoul, acquire an NVidia 6600GT or 6800GS I would recommend
[11:15] <Chris_Tucker> GhostFreeman, not really...   but by the way.. there is a strange thing i have never figured out that allows users to log in to GDM remotely.. i havent looked into it though
[11:15] <darksoul> ithiel: meh...what 3d card sould i get then?
[11:15] <Chris_Tucker> anyone know how to change which sound device my keyboard vol up/down buttons control?
[11:15] <ithiel> GhostFreeman, fine, race me
[11:15] <aris> dooglus, because the dvd have several anti copy protections
[11:15] <aris> like bad sectors
[11:15] <darksoul> ithiel: how much are they?
[11:15] <CTPAYC> lol ok
[11:15] <NoUse> darksoul Doom requires a MIN of 384MB memory
[11:15] <ithiel> darksoul, depends on how much $$$ you can spend, and whether you've got AGP or PCI-E
[11:15] <selinium> jandusion, Did you get the message about ubuntuguide? Please dont use it... :)
[11:15] <GhostFreeman> ithiel: It crashed 2 minutes into the game
[11:15] <dooglus> aris: I see
[11:16] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, hello :) sorry for nagging. but still nothing :(
[11:16] <CTPAYC> well no one still has answered my question and here you are bashing me for sugessting something :)
[11:16] <aris> dooglus, but it works with some cheap dvds
[11:16] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, could it make a difference if I try to start gnome from kdm instead of gdm?
[11:16] <dooglus> aris: what about copying the files from the DVD then, and recreating the .iso file using mkisofs?
[11:16] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: in that case, learn to love kde ;)
[11:16] <Chris_Tucker> anyone know how to change which sound device my keyboard vol up/down buttons control?
[11:16] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: it shouldn't, but worth a shot
[11:16] <darksoul> NoUse: oh....lol well i have a computer with 3.0ghz (amd) and 1024mb ram...but its being a bitch on the gui.. gui wont work..only worked once on suse...and i hate suse...
[11:16] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: on your 'black' screen, can you do "alt+f2" ?
[11:16] <aris> dooglus, the fs you can see by ls, cp etc... isn't enough
[11:16] <NoUse> darksoul the PC you are on doesn't meet doom3 min specs, thats why its slow
[11:17] <aris> there is a program to copy it correctly, but I don't get on its name
[11:17] <cb400f> robotgeek, glick : thanks
[11:17] <jandusion> ok im trying to open System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager but it just wont open.....
[11:17] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, hmm alt-f2? haven't tried that. what does that do?
[11:17] <dooglus> aris: it isn't?  how can DVD players play the disks if the movie depends on stuff that isn't in the filesystem?
[11:17] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: run dialog
[11:17] <GhostFreeman> btw what is the default setting for export DISPLAY
[11:17] <NoUse> jandusion do you get an error message?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> anyone know if breezy has extras backport or just the main backport?
[11:17] <delire_> nice.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/whiprush/63596921/ via http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-November/013048.html
[11:17] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, and what is that?
[11:17] <darksoul> NoUse: i know that now lol..but any ideas on how to get a amd with 1024mb ram and 3.0ghz cpu to run the gui of linux..as in gnome or kde
[11:17] <jandusion> nouse> nope
[11:17] <selinium> jandusion, private message?
[11:17] <NoUse> GhostFreeman export DISPLAY=":0"
[11:18] <NoUse> darksoul what kind of video card? thats the more important piece of info
[11:18] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: then you can run "xterm" or "firefox" or "gaim" or "rhythmbox" or whatever other ap you want
[11:18] <jandusion> i didnt get any kind of messages
[11:18] <aris> dooglus, the way linux shows the filesystem if you mount it is not complete
[11:18] <CTPAYC> where is export display hat?
[11:18] <britishseapower> NoUse: i did it
[11:18] <ParTas> Ho have win4lin please msg me tu privat
[11:18] <Chris_Tucker> anyone know how to change which sound device my keyboard vol up/down buttons control?
[11:18] <NoUse> jandusion open a terminal and run 'ps aux | grep dpkg' and 'ps aux | grep apt' if there are any of those processes running you need to kill then
[11:18] <britishseapower> NoUse: what u said...right clicked and selected VLC.
[11:18] <darksoul> NoUse: right now its old and crappy...i donno..all i know is its very big and prob not that well.. but thats not the point..the point is it cant get past compling
[11:18] <britishseapower> NoUse: and the thing STILL opens in totem.
[11:18] <aris> dooglus, if you look well, dvd player programs like mplayer or xine loads the physical device, not the mounted filesystem
[11:19] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, aha I see. when gnome fails where does it leave logs? I have checked syslog it was something about gconfd there, it said stuff like this is read-only and this is write, etc.
[11:19] <NoUse> darksoul Nvidia cards are the easiest to get working in Linux
[11:19] <OneSeventeen> each time I try to copy a folder, it says "omitting folder /the/one/you/wanted/to/copy"
[11:19] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: got me :)
[11:19] <OneSeventeen> (using cp)
[11:19] <OneSeventeen> any ideas on how I can copy this folder?
[11:19] <bur[n] er> OneSeventeen: cp -R
[11:19] <NoUse> britishseapower did you select VLC from the open with tab in the properties window?
[11:19] <NoUse> britishseapower NOT from the pop-up menu?
[11:19] <darksoul> NoUse: the 3d card IS NOT the problem the freekin problem is i cant install linux with a gui, only server only, the system wont complie if i do a full install
[11:19] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, you don't know? :)
[11:20] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: no idea
[11:20] <britishseapower> NoUse: yes...the open with.
[11:20] <OneSeventeen> bur[n] er: thanks!  I kind of forgot to make it recursive...
[11:20] <selinium> darksoul,  I am using an AMD900 with 128k ram
[11:20] <NoUse> britishseapower which open with? you need to do it from inside the properties window
[11:20] <britishseapower> did.
[11:20] <ParTas> Ho have win4lin please msg me tu privat
[11:20] <glick> selinium, get some more ram
[11:20] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, anything else I should reinstall? and btw are there a simpler way to set kdm as the default except removing gdm?
[11:20] <NoUse> darksoul and what do you think would keep ubuntu from running in GUI mode? an incompatible video card?
[11:20] <britishseapower> anyway maybe totems not so bad...just hid the controls...better.
[11:21] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[11:21] <selinium> glick, nar, i live life in the slow lane!
[11:21] <NoUse> darksoul and ubuntu doesn't 'compile'
[11:21] <glick> 128k?
[11:21] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, ah neat.
[11:21] <darksoul> NoUse: ..are you telling me it wont install couse of my video card..
[11:21] <NoUse> darksoul does the installation fail or does it finish and he GUI won't start?
[11:21] <delire_> NoUse: hehe i was wondering whether we should point him to #gentoo ;)
[11:21] <selinium> jandusion, how are you doing?
[11:21] <pluffsy> reboot...
[11:22] <darksoul> NoUse: the installtion fails, it gets past installing, then you reboot and it complies or goes thru all that code, and it never ends
[11:22] <barongas> What's a good size for a swap partition for a low ram computer?
[11:22] <jandusion> dunno >P fine i guess.. im working on that apps wont open
[11:22] <NoUse> darksoul ubuntu doesn't compile!
[11:22] <darkheart> What's the command to show the bus IDs of the devices on your system?
[11:22] <astor> does anyone know a tool that can act as a server and listen to a port and write a capture file that can be read by ethreal.  the whole point being that you don't need to be root to capture the data.
[11:22] <CTPAYC> ... does anyone know?
[11:22] <delire_> darkheart: lspci
[11:22] <NoUse> darksoul I would try with a diff video card
[11:22] <darkheart> delire_ Thanks.
[11:22] <NoUse> darksoul but what 'code' are you talking about?
[11:22] <glick> i hope ubuntu compiles!
[11:23] <darksoul> NoUse: then whatever it is..i see a crap load of code being installed after then install, on restart, it does the same on the computer that im using atm, however it got past that part
[11:23] <jasongrieves> anyone really familiar with X and vfb?
[11:23] <darksoul> NoUse: right after install it installs the packages, and you see a ton of code
[11:23] <NoUse> darksoul right, it installs all the packages
[11:23] <delire_> darkheart: or, if brave, try changing /etc/X11/xorg.conf to read 'vesa' in the driver section for you video card.
[11:23] <glick> NoUse, hehe those are messages, not code
[11:23] <GhostFreeman> where is there a good idiot proof buildkernel tut
[11:23] <delire_> darkheart: sorry intended for 'darksoul'
[11:23] <jandusion> jandusion@ubuntu:~$ ps aux | grep dpkg
[11:23] <jandusion> 1000      9975  0.0  0.0   1620   484 pts/0    R+   23:21   0:00 grep dpkg
[11:23] <jandusion> jandusion@ubuntu:~$ ps aux | grep apt
[11:23] <jandusion> 1000      9991  0.0  0.0   1624   488 pts/0    R+   23:22   0:00 grep apt
[11:23] <jandusion>     ok what does this meen
[11:23] <NoUse> glick yes I know
[11:23] <delire_> darksoul: or, if brave, try changing /etc/X11/xorg.conf to read 'vesa' in the driver section for you video card.
[11:23] <CTPAYC> ok i have my laptop hooked up to a tv with an svideo cable how in ubuntu do i make it show?
[11:23] <NoUse> jandusion read the topic! don't paste
[11:23] <selinium> jandusion, Dont patse in here!
[11:24] <darksoul> NoUse: however on my amd, whatever glick.. on my amd it just never ends and keeps going over and over and over the same thing for hours
[11:24] <jandusion> srry man didn know
[11:24] <NoUse> darksoul sounds like a memory or CPU problem
[11:24] <mindtzar> hey, is there a search tool in ubuntu?
[11:24] <selinium> jandusion, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl  :)
[11:24] <bimberi> jandusion: that you're not running any apt or dpkg processes (apart from the search for them)
[11:24] <darksoul> NoUse: prob..all i know is server only install works..
[11:24] <glick> darksoul, are you using the proper ubuntu versioni?
[11:24] <mindtzar> im trying to find where the xchat folder is
[11:24] <selinium> mindtzar, yes, you can use find or locate in term
[11:24] <jandusion> and thats a good thing??
[11:24] <mindtzar> okay
[11:24] <mindtzar> thanks
[11:24] <darksoul> glick: i tryed the x86 and the 64bit
[11:25] <bur[n] er> mindtzar: why you need the xchat 'folder'?
[11:25] <NoUse> darksoul have you tried doing a server install and then 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[11:25] <bimberi> jandusion: yes, if you're wanting to run a dpkg or apt command (you can't run 2 at once)
[11:25] <mindtzar> bur[n] er, so I can put my perl script into the auto-load folder
[11:25] <darksoul> NoUse: yes...and it doesnt start up with the desktop
[11:25] <bur[n] er> mindtzar: tried ~/.xchat ?
[11:25] <darkheart> delire_ Np.
[11:25] <glick> darksoul, and when does it do this?
[11:25] <bur[n] er> mindtzar: ~/.xchat2 that is
[11:25] <mindtzar> ahokay
[11:25] <darksoul> NoUse: im guessing i need to enable GDM or somthing..i just dont know how lol
[11:25] <mindtzar> thanks
[11:26] <selinium> jandusion, When you want to paste something use the paste bin at the URL i gave you earlier. What are you trying to do?
[11:26] <NoUse> darksoul I forget how
[11:26] <darksoul> NoUse: i havent tried the breezy version yet......sould i?
[11:26] <NoUse> darksoul of course
[11:26] <bur[n] er> darksoul: definately use breezy :)
[11:26] <jandusion> im trying to open the pagage manager, but it just wont open
[11:26] <NoUse> jandusion reboot and try again
[11:26] <delire_> jandusion: 'sudo synaptic'
[11:27] <selinium> jandusion, also if you type the first few letters of someones nickname and the the tab key, it will auto complete. typing a persons nick lets thenm know you are talking to them
[11:27] <bur[n] er> delire_: might be best to tell folks to "gksudo" ... "gksudo synaptic"
[11:27] <CTPAYC> i guess i shouldn't have even bothered
[11:27] <CTPAYC> bye
[11:27] <darksoul> alright im going to try
[11:27] <glick> i want to start a christian computer repair/technical support company...people call with computer problems and for $19.95 we will pray with them that Jesus fixes their computer
[11:27] <bimberi> only need sudo if running from a terminal
[11:27] <selinium> jandusion, how are you trying to open synaptic?
[11:28] <delire_> bur[n] er: sure, though i've never used it. what is 'gksudo' - a gtk frontend for sudo?
[11:28] <bur[n] er> delire_: exactly
[11:28] <ke> glick, you could also start an islamic support company - and when people call, their box blows up :P
[11:28] <lightseek> I dont understand why they cant add kppp and modem connextion to menu like Simply Mepis for example!  that way Ubuntu would win many more people over to it
[11:29] <glick> ke, or a christian pizza place called Cheesus Chrust
[11:29] <lightseek> glick, im a Christian too
[11:29] <nalioth> ke: be polite please,
[11:29] <selinium> ke,  NOT FUNNY read the http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[11:29] <nalioth> glick: you too, y'all are offtopic here
[11:29] <ke> J/k...
[11:29] <nalioth> ke: some things we shouldn't kid about
[11:29] <ke> Ok
[11:29] <selinium> glick, you too  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[11:29] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, hmm now in kdm it worked.
[11:29] <lightseek> glick, http://www.eternaljoy.pfwh.net/  <--- thats my Christian website
[11:29] <bur[n] er> pluffsy: nice :)
[11:29] <gnomefreak> <<not amused and still not sure how to make myself say something
[11:29] <nalioth> lightseek: you are offtopic also
[11:30] <lightseek> glick,  you like it?
[11:30] <glick> lightseek, hah im gonna check it out
[11:30] <jandusion> delire_       *sudo synaptic*   then i use that command nothing hapends.... and  if i dont use the sudo i get an error message who tells me that i need to run this program as root
[11:30] <lightseek> glick, ok thanks tell me your feedback please
[11:30] <nalioth> you guys need to go to #ubuntu-offtopic for that please
[11:30] <selinium> gnomefreak, type /me  before what you want to say!
[11:30] <ke> It's dropped now
[11:30] <pluffsy> bur[n] er, don't like when it feels just weird and I don't get why it works or doesn't. well well. :)
[11:30] <defcon4> can someone tell me how to run gdesklets?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> jandusion: you find synaptic under system>admin
[11:31] <lightseek> jandusion, type this: gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic
[11:31] <gnomefreak> ty selinium
[11:31] <glick> lightseek, i dont believe in the content, but the layout is nice in that it goes well with the theme of the site
[11:31] <selinium> gnomefreak, np
[11:31] <lightseek> jandusion, gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic  <-- type that from Console and it will work :)
[11:31] <darksoul> NoUse: how big sould swap be on a 300gb hdd?
[11:31] <lightseek> glick, ok thanks!  and you havent read it yet so how can you disagree with its content? :P
[11:31] <NoUse> darksoul usually you just match your ram
[11:31] <bur[n] er> defcon4: alt+f2, gdesklets
[11:31] <nalioth> lightseek: go to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:31] <defcon4> ok
[11:32] <lightseek> jandusion, did the command work that I gave you?
[11:32] <lightseek> nalioth, sorry
[11:32] <darksoul> NoUse: err so for 1024mb ram will 3.1gb be good? or sould i make it 5
[11:32] <lightseek> nalioth, it wont happen again
[11:32] <gnomefreak> is he trying to run synaptic or install it?
[11:32] <jandusion> lightseek, nope... >S
[11:32] <ktogias> Hi, I just downloaded from skype.org the newest skype debian package, and overrided a depedency error with  dpkg --force-depends -i skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb. The package has been installed and the program works perfectly, but I get a prompt to run apt-get -f install when i apt-get upgrade from now on... Does anyone know how to resolve the situation without uninstalling the new version?
[11:32] <nalioth> darksoul: use 512mb for your swap
[11:32] <bur[n] er> darksoul: u prolly need no more than 512 for swap
[11:32] <ktogias> breezy
[11:32] <lightseek> jandusion, gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic  <-- type that from Console
[11:32] <bur[n] er> ;)  good call nalioth
[11:32] <NoUse> darksoul thats tripling your ram, I said match but if you want to put 3GB of swap, have at it
[11:32] <darksoul> yea..ill just keep it as it set it up..3.1gb
[11:33] <lightseek> nalioth, can you please tell me if my sources.list is ok for Breezy?  im new, my first day running it!
[11:33] <NoUse> !tell lightseek about repos
[11:33] <delire_> glick: you might be needing a hand from "The Patron Saint of Personal Computers" http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/sainti04.htm
[11:33] <nalioth> lightseek: if you just installed it, it is fine
[11:33] <lightseek> jandusion, what happens when you type: gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic  ?
[11:33] <NoUse> lightseek copy the sources.list from the link ubotu sent you
[11:34] <lightseek> NoUse,  I updated it already.  but can you tell me if its ok?
[11:34] <lightseek> NoUse, yes I did that but I also uncommented some from the existing one
[11:34] <NoUse> lightseek if you just copied from whats on the site, you're fine
[11:34] <bimberi> ktogias: uninstall and install the skype package available at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:34] <nalioth> ubuntu: tell lightseek about paste
[11:34] <darksoul> NoUse: if it gets stuck again ill tell you what its stuck on
[11:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lightseek about paste
[11:34] <jandusion> lightseek, umm nothing.. no apps or anything is opending
[11:34] <bur[n] er> Firefox 1.5 is out!!
[11:34] <nalioth> lightseek: paste it to a pastebin, please
[11:34] <gnomefreak> bur[n] er,  sitll beta or final release?
[11:34] <darksoul> NoUse: taking forever to partion......big hdd lol
[11:35] <glick> geez i just gave lightseek some feedback on his site
[11:35] <gnomefreak> bimberi,  its new and kinda cool
[11:35] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:35] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: final... no official site news, but it's out on ftp servers
[11:35] <bimberi> gnomefreak: :)
[11:35] <jandusion> lightseek, umm nothing.. no apps or anything is opending
[11:35] <lightseek> NoUse, can you look here please:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4591
[11:35] <lightseek> jandusion, ok you need to reboot, that happened to me too
[11:35] <ktogias> bimberi, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl is not responding to my bowser :( ... Is it down?
[11:36] <lightseek> jandusion, and when I rebooted it worked
[11:36] <jasongrieves> anyone really familiar with X and vfb?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> jandusion: are you trying to run synaptic?
[11:36] <NoUse> lightseek  you have duplicate archives, you just needed to overwrite what you what with what was in the links ubotu sent
[11:36] <bimberi> ktogias: sec, i'll give it a try..
[11:36] <lightseek> nalioth,  can you look here please:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4591
[11:36] <jandusion> lightseek, ok ill reboot and if it wont work ill come back and ask you agian
[11:36] <lightseek> jandusion, ok
[11:36] <ktogias> it just came
[11:36] <selinium> jandusion, type   ps -C synaptic   in term what doaes it say?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> why not just run synaptic from menu?
[11:37] <selinium> jandusion, dont reboot yet...
[11:37] <lightseek> NoUse, but I compared them and some are different
[11:37] <bimberi> ktogias: maybe it's scared of me :P
[11:37] <jandusion> Selinium, /C was not found
[11:37] <NoUse> lightseek you ask for my help and then question my advice
[11:37] <lightseek> NoUse, the website you gave me doesnt have all the ones that existing one had,
[11:37] <jandusion> -C
[11:38] <gnomefreak> if his x is down he couldnt run it from command line anyway
[11:38] <ParTas> how to start .bat file?
[11:38] <NoUse> lightseek those are the standard repos that most everyone uses
[11:38] <lightseek> NoUse, im not challenging your advice, im trying to learn how to get ALL repos in there
[11:38] <NoUse> lightseek those are all of them
[11:38] <blackhat> Anyone here successfully COPY ENCRYPTED DVDS in Linux and able to watch them in DVD PLAYER?
[11:38] <selinium> jandusion, You should get something even if it isnt running?
[11:38] <lightseek> NoUse, if I just use everything from website, will that allow me to also install mp3 support etc?
[11:38] <NoUse> lightseek yes
[11:39] <selinium> jandusion, type    sudo pkill synaptic
[11:39] <paulproteus> ParTas: .BAT files are a DOSism.
[11:39] <selinium> jandusion, them type     gksudo synaptic
[11:39] <lightseek> NoUse, is that website 25 lines only?
[11:39] <paulproteus> ParTas: The analogous thing in Linux is shell scripts.
[11:39] <gnomefreak> blackhat, they are encryped for copyright laws that would be illeagl to break their encryption and we are a legal bunch ;)
[11:39] <NoUse> lightseek I don't know how many lines it has
[11:39] <lightseek> blackhat, thats illegal
[11:39] <NoUse> lightseek http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[11:39] <topyli> how dangerous is athcool really? i'd put it in main and make the k7 kernels depend on it! :-)
[11:40] <lightseek> NoUse,  can you tell me, because I can only see 25lines but I think there more
[11:40] <jandusion> selinium, whatand what is supose to hapen??
[11:40] <ktogias> bimberi, seveas is too slow (at least when reached from greece where i am located)
[11:40] <NoUse> lightseek just run this 'sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list'
[11:40] <codepoet> does ndiswrapper come with the 5.10 cd?
[11:40] <NoUse> lightseek then run sudo apt-get update
[11:40] <lightseek> NoUse, ahh great command, thanks!  easy
[11:40] <nalioth> blackhat: we dont discuss breaking encryption here
[11:40] <selinium> jandusion, pkill will stop synaptic from running then gksudo synaptic will restart it...
[11:40] <NoUse> lightseek hold on
[11:41] <lightseek> ok
[11:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lightseek about cli
[11:41] <NoUse> lightseek 'sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list'
[11:41] <bimberi> ktogias: ok, it's probably being hit hard.  Unfortunately i don't have an alternative :/
[11:41] <nalioth> lightseek: the command line is far more powerful than any gui program
[11:41] <Stormx2> Damnit! make it eject!
[11:41] <bimberi> ktogias: Seveas repackages skype to fix that dependency issue you have
[11:41] <topyli> lightseek: of course, you were just "surfing the web" as root but what the hell... ;)
[11:41] <jandusion> selinium, ok iv done it....what i do next?
[11:41] <bimberi> *repackaged
[11:42] <selinium> lol
[11:42] <selinium> jandusion, I dont know what you are trying to install?
[11:42] <ktogias> bimberi, I just guessed it.... Thanks
[11:42] <jandusion> selinium, skype...
[11:42] <ktogias> but I will have to wait about an hour for 7.7MB to be downloaded :(
[11:42] <lightseek> NoUse, it seems it is total 25 lines
[11:43] <ClayG> anything as good as trillain for nix?
[11:43] <NoUse> lightseek ok
[11:43] <ClayG> other than gaim
[11:43] <Stormx2> great.
[11:43] <selinium> lol, ok you dont realy want to use the one in the repo! close synaptic...
[11:43] <nalioth> lightseek: kopete
[11:43] <Stormx2> My keyboard and mouse are working again
[11:43] <Stormx2> *sigh*
[11:43] <lightseek> nalioth, yes but I wanted a gui modem login
[11:43] <Stormx2> now can someone make the cd eject!!! ack!!
[11:43] <sajd> does gksudo hang for anyone else on dapper ?
[11:43] <nalioth> lightseek: i didnt say to throw the gui out the window
[11:43] <Stormx2> My desktop has stopped working. Woo hoo.
[11:43] <lightseek> nalioth, what does kopete mean?
[11:43] <jandusion> selinium, a m8 told me that it was only to use the sudo apt-get install skype command... but it dosent work
[11:43] <Stormx2> wait, make that the panel, task list everything.
[11:43] <NoUse> lightseek nevermind, I think he sent it to the wrong nick
[11:44] <lightseek> NoUse,  :)
[11:44] <NoUse> ClayG you can try kopete
[11:44] <Logi> good evening... I'm running kubuntu and trying to get the amarok mp3 player to play MP3s. I've install gstreamer0.8-plugins (and eventually) restarted X/KDE, but to no avail. Amarok still says streamer claims not to be able to play MP3s and then proceeds to not play MP3s. What do I do?
[11:44] <nalioth> lightseek: it is a multi protocol IM client for kde (similar to gaim)
[11:44] <NoUse> Logi you need to enable the universe repo
[11:44] <aris> install a distro that doesn't fear enfrighting software patents ?
[11:44] <NoUse> !tell Logi about repos
[11:44] <selinium> jandusion, you can use that if you have enabled the right repo...
[11:44] <Stormx2> EJECT EJECT EJECT
[11:44] <aris> !tell aris about repos
[11:44] <Stormx2> finally...
[11:44] <NoUse> Logi use the sources.list ubotu sent you
[11:44] <darksoul> NoUse: ok its configuring/installing packages
[11:44] <Logi> NoUse: I did that, but the gstreamer0.8-plugins was there before universe?
[11:45] <darksoul> NoUse: lets see what happens eh?
[11:45] <selinium> jandusion, type this in a term    sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:45] <topyli> ClayG: if you're a trillian fan, you might as well ask if there's anything as good as trillian for windows
[11:45] <axel> hello everyone
[11:45] <nalioth> Logi: enable universe and multiverse repos
[11:45] <NoUse> Logi I think you need gstream-mad
[11:45] <NoUse> !tell Logi about mp3
[11:45] <Logi> multiverse?
[11:45] <darksoul> NoUse: are there any free games out there for linux, like is doom free?
[11:45] <lightseek> NoUse, ok im using now your sources.list!  and it contains 6 places to download!
[11:45] <nalioth> Logi: yes, universe and multiverse, read what ubotu sent you
[11:45] <Stormx2> darksoul: Unreal Tournament.
[11:46] <NoUse> lightseek sounds good
[11:46] <gnomefreak> here is the newest sources list including both backports and all is working as of right now
[11:46] <darksoul> Stormx2: thats free!?! whats the link!
[11:46] <kemik_> can anyone point me to the Quicktables download ?
[11:46] <NoUse> darksoul you mean the orginal doom?
[11:46] <axel> Does someone know where i can find the powernowd.conf on my system, or anyway a file where i can configure my cpu scaling like the cpufreqd.conf file ??
[11:46] <lightseek> NoUse, can I keep this command for future and if others ask?   sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:46] <kemik_> or know some great firewall tool using curses ?
[11:46] <Logi> nalioth: am doing. I take it multiverse is even less tested/supported than universe then?
[11:46] <NoUse> lightseek yeah if you want
[11:46] <lightseek> NoUse,  will that command work for the future too?
[11:46] <darksoul> NoUse: i dont care..i just want some good free games
[11:46] <herni> right-clicking desktop doesn't give me option "scripts->open scripts folder" like it should according to "ubuntu how come" guide. any idea why?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> http://www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc/linux.htm
[11:46] <NoUse> lightseek yeah it should
[11:46] <lightseek> NoUse,  that webpage will stay the same?
[11:46] <lightseek> NoUse,  ok :)
[11:46] <kemik_> !quicktables
[11:46] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, kemik_
[11:46] <darksoul> NoUse: 50%..keep going baby keep going!
[11:47] <nalioth> Logi: they all work well, just less supported by canonical
[11:47] <topyli> darksoul: the dooms, quakes, and other binaries for linux are free, but of course you need the official data files
[11:47] <selinium> jandusion, how are you getting on ?
[11:47] <nalioth> bimberi: you should look into the wget manpage, it does more then you think
[11:47] <bimberi> *wget/pastebin
[11:47] <Logi> nalioth: that's what they said about debian/unstable too :)
[11:47] <NoUse> darksoul you can search synaptic, there is some good stuff in there
[11:47] <darksoul> topyli: *sigh*
[11:47] <kemik_> aaanyone ?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> herni,  either does mine :)
[11:47] <darksoul> NoUse: ..ok looks like its pausing up...
[11:48] <cyphase> Take a look at question 7 -> http://www.mpaa.org/Press/DVD_FAQ.htm
[11:48] <darksoul> NoUse: nvm just was going a bit slow for such a nice prosseser
[11:48] <topyli> darksoul: why would it suddenly be free? just because you're installing it on a free system?
[11:48] <Logi> !java
[11:48] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:48] <darksoul> topyli: yes lol
[11:48] <bimberi> nalioth: thanks, although it's the combination with the pastebin that i didn't know about :)
[11:48] <Logi> !javadebs
[11:48] <ubotu> methinks javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/
[11:48] <lightseek> NoUse, now after a update it found gnome-ppp
[11:48] <Stormx2> Heres an idea for dapper: MAKE THE CDS I BURN READABLE, ALLOW ME TO RIP CDS
[11:48] <darksoul> NoUse: WTF
[11:49] <NoUse> lightseek I expected as much
[11:49] <nalioth> Stormx2: you can't do that now?
[11:49] <darksoul> NoUse: white screen scared me
[11:49] <NoUse> darksoul you need to switch to decaf
[11:49] <Stormx2> nalioth: No.
[11:49] <jandusion> selinium, iv tryed with and without the sudo command biy none works...
[11:49] <Stormx2> nalioth: No burnt (audio) cds play.
[11:49] <nalioth> bimberi: the pastebin offers a downloadable text file free with every use
[11:49] <lightseek> NoUse, when I run gnome-ppp, it says: (gnome-ppp:29728): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[11:49] <lightseek> NoUse,  any idea how to fix that?
[11:49] <darksoul> NoUse: kernel panic - not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt
[11:49] <Stormx2> nalioth: The same cds will work fine when burnt underwinblows.
[11:49] <selinium> jandusion, do this   in term      cd ~/
[11:49] <NoUse> lightseek run it as your user, not as root
[11:50] <lightseek> NoUse,  ah ok
[11:50] <NoUse> darksoul sucks
[11:50] <bimberi> nalioth: yeah, playing with it now :)
[11:50] <khermans> is there a file for the clipboard?  I want to cat a file into my clipbboard so i can paste it
[11:50] <selinium> jandusion, give me an ok when you have done each bit
[11:50] <NoUse> darksoul google that error
[11:50] <darksoul> NoUse: unable to handel kernal paging request at virtual address 672d3273
[11:50] <kemik_> !firewall
[11:50] <ubotu> it has been said that firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter. see !firestarter
[11:50] <NoUse> darksoul I would run a bad sector scan on that disk of yourse
[11:50] <jandusion> selinium, ok..
[11:50] <selinium> jandusion,    wget http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/breezy-extras/skype_1.2.0.18-1ubuntu0_i386.deb
[11:50] <Stormx2> My CDs won't rip. It rips at about 0.5x, my CD drive does 52x. The mp3s SKIP! Now, my audio cds won't play. They won't even play in the drive I just burnt them in.
[11:51] <superbeast> is there a flash substitute for 64 bit ubuntu?
[11:51] <kemik_> could someone please give me a download link for quicktables ? ? ?
[11:51] <darksoul> NoUse: huh? my chip is a sampron and its supposed to be amd64...maby i sould try ubuntu breezy 64
[11:51] <Hostile> Whenever I need to to something which requires password, the box freezes so I can not enter password or or do anything in that desktop, ctrl-alt-bkspace works. Advice?
[11:51] <NoUse> lightseek you aren't running every app as root by default are you?
[11:51] <lightseek> NoUse,  beautiful :) thats what I wanted :)  imho, Ubuntu really should have gnome-ppp already installed and available from menu, like Simply Mepis has!  Because I could tell that 1000's of new people to Linux woudlnt know how to connect to internet using modem when Breeze doesnt have it installed already
[11:51] <NoUse> darksoul try a memtest and a bad sectory scan
[11:51] <Stormx2> ack
[11:51] <NoUse> darksoul something is wrong with your PC
[11:51] <lightseek> NoUse,  no, I typed "sudo -i" and only did apt-get update and the existed
[11:51] <selinium> Stormx2, you need to sort out youir hdpram
[11:52] <darksoul> NoUse: how do i run a mem test and bad sector scan?
[11:52] <NoUse> lightseek ok, don't run normal apps as root
[11:52] <superbeast> is there a flash substitute for 64 bit ubuntu?
[11:52] <selinium> Stormx2, you need to sort out youir hdparm
[11:52] <NoUse> darksoul google around
[11:52] <darksoul> NoUse: meh..
[11:52] <Stormx2> and another thing, why does the "eject" button on my cd drive not work under ubuntu, and why does right clicking the mounted drive icon on my desktop and selecting "eject" do nothing..
[11:52] <darksoul> NoUse: what do you think is wrong?
[11:52] <Stormx2> Well it does
[11:52] <Stormx2> It only takes TEN MINUTES
[11:52] <lightseek> NoUse,  know what I mean?  especially in Australia millions of people still use modem
[11:52] <gnomefreak> running user apps as root is very dangerous
[11:52] <NoUse> darksoul well lets look at wha I said, memtest.. maybe the memory is bad, bad sector scan...  maybe your disk has some bad sectorys
[11:52] <selinium> Stormx2, read what the bot just sent you
[11:52] <superbeast> !flash 64bit
[11:52] <HrdwrBoB> lightseek: fewer and fewer every day
[11:52] <ubotu> Not a clue, superbeast
[11:53] <superbeast> gay
[11:53] <lightseek> NoUse,  why wouldnt Ubuntu have gnome-ppp installed already and ready to load from menu?
[11:53] <gnomefreak> "if you dont know what your doing or you typo"
[11:53] <selinium> jandusion, is it downloading?
[11:53] <Stormx2> selinium: Kay.
[11:53] <darksoul> NoUse: ..right so when i put in the disk to i type in on the install area sector scan?
[11:53] <NoUse> lightseek I'm not in charge of what gets installed by default
[11:53] <jandusion> selinium, jupp
[11:53] <Hostile> Whenever I need to to something which requires password, the box freezes so I can not enter password or or do anything in that desktop, ctrl-alt-bkspace works. Advice?
[11:53] <Stormx2> selinium: This had better make future cds playable.
[11:53] <selinium> jandusion, cool!
[11:53] <NoUse> darksoul I said google around, you'll find it
[11:53] <bimberi> Stormx2: were you copying files from the cd? if so the delay could be in clearing the cache
[11:53] <HrdwrBoB> Logi: just install i386
[11:53] <jandusion> selinium, im done in 4 hours...>P
[11:53] <lightseek> NoUse,  you should be :)
[11:53] <selinium> Stormx2, you will be much happier with DMA switched on
[11:53] <HrdwrBoB> Logi: the speed difference is minimal
[11:53] <superbeast> Lodi, don't forget no 64 bit glash
[11:53] <Logi> HrdwrBoB: I installed K7 but yeah
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> and in some cases it's faster
[11:54] <darksoul> NoUse: but server only mode works...meh
[11:54] <NoUse> lightseek file a bug, feature request
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> Logi: K7 is the i386 distribution
[11:54] <jandusion> selinium, or something lie that
[11:54] <superbeast> Lodi, don't forget no 64 bit flash
[11:54] <NoUse> darksoul you don't have to listen to me, I'm just trying to help you
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> that's just the kernel
[11:54] <Stormx2> selinium: "Most systems newer than 3 years support DMA." - this box is made of old parts pre-dating the millenium.
[11:54] <Logi> superbeast: I don't care about flash...
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> and while you CAN get things working on an amd64 system
[11:54] <gnomefreak> gnome-ppp is avalible with sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp
[11:54] <darksoul> NoUse: i know, im going to try the breezy 64bit install see if that works
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> if you want nvidia drivers and java, go with i386
[11:54] <superbeast> logi, yeah but you need it for many sites
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> because the differences are minimal
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> I run i386 distro on my amd64
[11:54] <Glassius> what's the best way of having a partition span over several harddrives in ubuntu? raid, lvm, evms?
[11:55] <lightseek> gnomefreak, yeah but a new linux person wouldnt know how to connect to intenrt using modem without it in the first place
[11:55] <HrdwrBoB> but I run amd64 on my servers
[11:55] <Logi> superbeast: nah, those sites are rarely worth the time it takes to get past the flash
[11:55] <Stormx2> selinium: And another thing. it failed.
[11:55] <jandusion> selinium, what do i do when the donload is done...
[11:55] <selinium> jandusion, wow that is slow!   when you have got it type    sudo dpkg -i ~/skype_1.2.0.18-1ubuntu0_i386.deb
[11:55] <gnomefreak> lightseek,  good point ;)
[11:55] <lightseek> gnomefreak, its a catch 22, you need to connect to internet to download it
[11:55] <Stormx2> bimberi: And by the way, the cd wasn't in use. it hadn't been in use for about 16 hours.
[11:55] <Logi> HrdwrBoB: I'm not too bothered, but it still seems a little bit silly to have a 64 bit processor running in 32 bit mode
[11:55] <selinium> Stormx2, so you have a 52x cd drive with no dma support?
[11:55] <lightseek> gnomefreak, im very certain that Ubuntu will lose 1000's of new users because they dont have a dial up feature in menu like gnome-ppp
[11:56] <Stormx2> bimberi: Infact, i rebooted ubuntu during that period, and didn't even access the cd after that.
[11:56] <gnomefreak> ummmmm but if the person is in here more than likely their internet works
[11:56] <bimberi> Stormx2: k, 'twas just a thought
[11:56] <Stormx2> selinium: I thought it wasn't to do with the drive? ;-)
[11:56] <kemik_> dial-up still exists? ;)
[11:56] <lightseek> gnomefreak, Simply Mepis has it and thats why mepis is winning many new users that have modem
[11:56] <gnomefreak> lol kemik
[11:56] <Logi> ok, mp3 playing is up. Thanks a log guys/gals
[11:56] <Stormx2> bimberi: No prob :) Thanks anyway
[11:56] <lightseek> gnomefreak, imagine the amount of people that arent here that would be :P
[11:56] <Stormx2> selinium: let me pastebin the output
[11:56] <lightseek> Logi, how did you get ,mp3 to work?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> lightseek,  ubuntu is the fastest growing linux distro
[11:57] <lightseek> gnomefreak, it would be faster if it had modem support
[11:57] <Stormx2> selinium: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4593
[11:57] <selinium> Stormx2, both I beleive. :) My machine is a creaking Athlon900, top of the range when I bought it! Still has DMA
[11:57] <Logi> lightseek: enabled universe and multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list and installed gstreamer-plugins
[11:57] <NoUse> lightseek not much faster, they'd be downloaded it over modem after all
[11:57] <cyphase> does anyone know of any commercial DVD players for linux?
[11:57] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lightseek about mp3
[11:57] <selinium> Stormx2, looking
[11:57] <topyli> lightseek: in the network config capplet, there's an option to quickly configure a modem connection
[11:57] <SlitherX> hi, you know a graphic ssh client?
[11:57] <Logi> !tell lightseek about mp3
[11:57] <cyphase> i think PowerDVD works on linux..
[11:57] <cyphase> which i didn't know until about 2 minutes ago :)
[11:57] <Logi> bah, that bot is snotty
[11:57] <HrdwrBoB> cyphase: and it's utterly, utterly pointless
[11:58] <shadeofgrey> i am so pissed....  i tried to install Fediora Core4 64bit version on my second drive and when it finished itoverrote my GRUB data and made the system unbootable ... i had to totally reinstall ubuntu!
[11:58] <selinium> Stormx2, Have you tried switching it on?
[11:58] <lightseek> Logi, im installing xmms now, i think it installs everyyhng needed
[11:58] <HrdwrBoB> SlitherX: .. yes, run gnome-terminal
[11:58] <HrdwrBoB> ... run ssh in it
[11:58] <robotgeek> SlitherX: graphic ssh?
[11:58] <HrdwrBoB> ssh isn't a graphical thing
[11:58] <shadeofgrey> okay guys somebody please paste the link to the breezy sources.list file
[11:58] <Logi> lightseek: it might pull in the needed packages if you've enabled universe and multiverse
[11:58] <mindtzar> lightseek, you got mp3 working?
[11:58] <jandusion> selinium, ok i got it.... i need to go to bed now ill be online in about 17hours.... will you be online then??
[11:58] <Stormx2> selinium: No, was I supposed to?
[11:58] <selinium> jandusion, probably!
[11:58] <lightseek> NoUse,  do I have enabled universe and multiverse in sources list?
[11:58] <Stormx2> selinium: I just followed step #1
[11:58] <SlitherX> ok... (my english is not good)... i want to 'see' the files on the server
[11:58] <Logi> lightseek: but they're worried about patents and royalties so they don't (supposedly) have any mp3 support in canonical
[11:58] <selinium> Stormx2, yep      sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[11:58] <SlitherX> not only with commands
[11:59] <NoUse> lightseek yes
[11:59] <gnomefreak> shadeofgrey,  my list is at www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc  click on linux tab
[11:59] <cyphase> HrdwrBoB, i know, i was just curious because of question 7 at http://www.mpaa.org/Press/DVD_FAQ.htm
[11:59] <selinium> Stormx2, then folow step one again!
[11:59] <mindtzar> whats the sudo apt-get thing to get the gstreamer plugins?
[11:59] <HrdwrBoB> SlitherX: open a file window, file-> connect to server
[11:59] <HrdwrBoB> then select type ssh
[11:59] <jandusion> selnium, good... then ill ask you when i get home from school...
[11:59] <lightseek> mindtzar, no
[11:59] <HrdwrBoB> then put in all the information
[11:59] <Rawplayer> does anyone have a script to strip a unbuntu install down?
[11:59] <selinium> Stormx2, all step one does is tell you what you have switched on!
[11:59] <HrdwrBoB> and .. BAM, graphical ssh file browsing
[11:59] <Cyphase> hmm
[11:59] <Stormx2> selinium: Yeah, my concern is with the last line... whatever.
[12:00] <gnomefreak> Rawplayer, you can always do a server install