[12:54] <bnD> can someone let me know the command to upgrade my kernel from 386 to 686?
[12:59] <bnD> anyone know how to turn down touchpad sensitivity or disable touchpad clicking?
[02:21] <magnon> hey ogra
[02:21] <ogra> hey
[02:22] <ogra> magnon, did i tell you that complaints about the logo of s-c-p have to be paid by contributions ? ;)
[02:23] <magnon> hehe
[02:36] <deang> Is there a way to find out the default Edubuntu/Ubuntu I'm running besides the default browser page?  System~About seems to leave this out
[02:46] <mhz> hi
[02:46] <arkan0x> hi
[02:46] <arkan0x> mhz, !
[02:46] <arkan0x> mhz, ping
[02:49] <mhz> arkan0x: pong
[02:49] <mhz> arkan0x: como van las cosas en CDSL?
[02:51] <ogra> deang, run lsb_release -a in a terminal
[02:51] <mhz> ogra: hi
[02:52] <ogra> hi
[02:52] <mhz> do you know the topics for tomorrow's meeting?
[02:53] <mhz> ogra: I installed edubuntu on a PC and it takes too long to complete booting. It gets kind of stuck after an error on 'fonts missing dir'
[02:53] <mhz> PDF disabled
[02:53] <mhz> if I Ctrl+C it, then it completes booting
[02:55] <ogra> hit escape on boot ad edit the kernel commandline, remove the word splash from it and boot to see where its really stuck
[02:56] <ogra> usplash hides a lot
[03:01] <mhz> ooohhh
[03:01] <mhz> you mean, edit grub?
[03:17] <ogra> yes
[03:28] <mhz> ogra: BTW, this is the exact pseudo-error:   /usr/share/fonts/truetype/mstcorefonts does not exist. PDF support disabled.
[03:28] <mhz> checking battery state .... [ok] 
[03:28] <mhz> that's what I see before CTRL +C
[03:29] <ogra> hmm, probably a acpi problem
[03:29] <ogra> thats a laptop ?
[03:33] <ogra> i have to go to bed now, night ...
[03:34] <mhz> c ya 2morrow
[03:34] <ogra> check if adding noacpi or pci=noacpi helps you 
[03:34] <mhz> okidoki, thx and it's no laptop
[03:34] <mhz> still meeting tomorrow?
[03:34] <ogra> sure
[03:34] <mhz> zero killed
[03:34] <mhz> :D
[04:44] <mhz> hi jsgotangco 
[04:45] <jsgotangco> mhz, hello how have you been?
[04:45] <mhz> well, TIRED
[04:45] <mhz> but fine
[04:45] <mhz> and motivated
[04:46] <jsgotangco> that's good
[04:46] <mhz> too many meetings to get funds
[04:46] <mhz> jsgotangco: i hope you don't have too many layer 8 or 0 (depending) endusers
[04:47] <jsgotangco> heh
[04:47] <jsgotangco> not really
[04:47] <jsgotangco> i've just been busy with my new work and preparing for a trip
[04:48] <mhz> trip to a talk?
[04:49] <jsgotangco> yeah
[04:52] <jsgotangco> well i got invited to do a talk in seoul but i have yet to secure my visa...
[04:52] <mhz> ohh
[07:45] <ihsanna> hi everyone, i'm ihsan, first time into this channel. 
[07:46] <dabaR> hi
[07:46] <JaneW> hi ihsanna 
[07:51] <ihsanna> I've just started reading about edubuntu but not yet started anything. My wife is a secondary school teacher, hope can do something for her. 
[07:52] <JaneW> ihsanna: great, I hope you/she likes it
[07:53] <JaneW> what's available now is just our first release, so there are plans to improve a lot for next April's release
[07:53] <JaneW> ogra is owrking hard on those additions and improvements already
[07:53] <highvoltage> hi ihsanna, welcome to #edubuntu
[07:55] <ihsanna> great
[07:56] <ihsanna> hope i can contribute something. upss, need to go. bye.
[07:56] <ihsanna> quit
[08:14] <highvoltage> JaneW: from OSdir: "OSDir's got some damn sweet shots of Edubuntu 5.10 Official."
[08:14] <highvoltage> do we think it's appropriate for us to link to a site where they say that?
[08:17] <JaneW> highvoltage: well it is the official osdir edubuntu page...
[08:17] <JaneW> and this URL is a little long http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=471&slide=4&title=edubuntu+5.10+official+screenshots
[08:17] <JaneW> but use this one if you think it's more appropriate ^
[08:18] <highvoltage> JaneW: i don't really mind, but there are many difficult people.
[08:19] <JaneW> highvoltage: ok use the long one, I was going to suggest that first and then thought it was really long and strange, but maybe link it with a few words instead of showing the URL, that will solve the problem easilly
[08:21] <highvoltage> ok
[08:22] <JaneW> thanks :)
[08:33] <dabaR> how about that tinyurl thing?
[08:37] <JaneW> hi Burgundavia 
[08:49] <Burgundavia> salut JaneW 
[08:54] <chang-xi> Are there technical questions permitted here?
[08:56] <Burgundavia> chang-xi, yes
[08:59] <chang-xi> Ok- I have edubuntu server & 1-client machine for test. When loading a cd/dvd in the server (logged in as a user) it also shows up in the client &, I cannot eject the cd unless the client closes the window & ejects it.
[09:26] <Victorjiang>  what is the difference between ubuntu,kubuntu and edubuntu?
[09:27] <Burgundavia> Victorjiang, Ubuntu is gnome based, kubuntu is kde based
[09:27] <Burgundavia> edubuntu is a version of ubuntu for schools
[09:27] <Burgundavia> the default DE for edubuntu is gnome
[09:29] <Victorjiang>  what is the difference between ubuntu and edubuntu?In edubuntu more software about school are installed?
[09:29] <Burgundavia> yes
[09:30] <Burgundavia> edubuntu also comes with ltsp and the configuration for making it easy to use LTSP in a school environment
[09:48] <Victorjiang> Burgundavia:thanks!
[10:48] <DeeJay1> hello
[11:12] <DeeJay1> I have a small question - where can I set the default desktop wallpaper for all users in edubuntu?
[11:59] <mhz> hi all
[11:59] <JaneW> **Reminder** Edubuntu Update Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 1 hour.
[12:00] <mhz> hehehe
[12:00] <mhz> hi JaneW
[12:00] <JaneW> hi mhz
[12:00] <mhz> family ok?
[12:00] <mhz> baking good?
[12:02] <mhz> JaneW: I did 'apply' for edubuntu CD shipping but I never got an official 'no' answer
[12:14] <JaneW> catch I mean
[12:14] <JaneW> there is SO much to do
[12:15] <JaneW> mhz_cooking: I will update that page soon, we will continue to gather info for when we do have CDs (in 5-6 months)
[12:50] <Katsumoto> Does any1 know how to recover Unallocated disk space?
[12:51] <Katsumoto> I use Partition Magic Pro 8.0 and tried to 'undelete' it...but that didn't help much.
[12:51] <Katsumoto> any1 know of a programm that can repair hdd's that way?
[12:51] <mhz_cooking> hhhhmmm, Katsumoto 
[12:51] <mhz_cooking> sorry, never been there yet
[12:52] <Katsumoto> me neither
[12:52] <mhz_cooking> did you google?
[12:52] <mhz_cooking> did you also visit #ubuntu
[12:52] <Katsumoto> not yet I'm trying a format first
[12:52] <Katsumoto> maybe that'll help
[12:52] <Katsumoto> now I did :p
[12:52] <mhz_cooking> one thing for sure, Yagisan may know but he's not here yet
[12:52] <mhz_cooking> (time zone issue :D )
[12:53] <Katsumoto> yes exactly
[12:53] <Katsumoto> I'm in GMT+1 so
[12:53] <Katsumoto> heh
[12:53] <mhz_shower> heheh
[12:53] <Katsumoto> enjoy :)
[12:53] <mhz_shower> thx
[12:53] <mhz_shower> brb for meeeting
[12:56] <JaneW> **Reminder** Edubuntu Update Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 4 minutes
[01:01] <JaneW> **Reminder** Edubuntu Update Meeting in #ubuntu-meeting now
[01:30] <juliux> mhz, i have talked with slibs yesterday about conferenc pack, she said if you didn't get any response send a mail to her
[01:30] <mhz> juliux: thx!
[01:31] <mhz> do you have slibs email?
[01:31] <juliux> mom
[01:31] <juliux> mhz, jane.silber@ubuntu.com
[01:31] <mhz> juliux: oh! jane silber
[01:31] <mhz> thx
[01:32] <juliux> mhz, i have said here there i didn't get any repsonse and so she said e-mail me i will it to me
[01:34] <juliux> ogra, i have arrange a ubuntu both on the cebit 
[01:34] <juliux> ogra, do you want to do a talk about edubuntu?
[01:34] <ogra> juliux, i'm not sure if i want to go to cebit (i grew up in hannover)
[01:34] <ogra> i'll notify you ...
[01:35] <ogra> they are having opportunitys to talk there this time ? 
[01:37] <JaneW> Jane Silber can also be reached at jane@ubuntu.com, which is why I am always known as Jane*W*
[01:39] <mhz> ooooohhh, thx JaneW
[02:09] <Katsumoto> Yay, I'm installing Edubuntu :)
[02:09] <mhz> Katsumoto: welcome!!!
[02:09] <Katsumoto> :D
[02:09] <mhz> you have chosen the good pill
[02:09] <mhz> :D
[02:09] <Katsumoto> haha nice1 ;)
[02:10] <Katsumoto> I completely formatted the other pc I have.
[02:10] <Katsumoto> first I tried 2 diff windows cd's...nothing happened, didn't even boot up
[02:10] <Katsumoto> I was like: oh what the heck, *inserts ubuntu cd* and it boots
[02:11] <Katsumoto> amazing :p
[02:11] <mhz> hehehe, see?
[02:16] <Katsumoto> I was told you can configure your network settings with Samba right?
[02:16] <mhz> hmm, samba is for 'making MS talk to Linux'
[02:16] <Katsumoto> yes that's what I need..
[02:17] <Katsumoto> since the linux pc will be connected through the MS pc
[02:17] <mhz> Linux already talks to many OSes. It's MS that doesnt
[02:17] <Katsumoto> indeed :P
[02:17] <mhz> Network settings are set from GNOME desktop (in this case)
[02:18] <ogra> Katsumoto, "through" or to the MS pc ? these are different things ...
[02:18] <Katsumoto> the pc I'm one uses MS
[02:19] <Katsumoto> it's the host pc for the other one I have downstairs
[02:19] <ogra> "to" means you need samba, "through" means you just need to enable connection forwarding on windows and tell your linux to use it as gateway
[02:20] <Katsumoto> Gateway(router/modem) <----------- Host PC (this one, uses MS) <--------------- 2nd PC (linux)
[02:20] <Katsumoto> <-- resembles network cables :P
[02:26] <Katsumoto> mhz: on this pc (MS) I have a shared connection so that the one downstairs can use it as well..
[02:26] <ogra> the you just need to tell the linux pc to use the windows pc as gateway (in the network settings tool)
[02:27] <mhz> Katsumoto: yup, Linux is like anyother box in that case
[02:27] <mhz> (just betta)
[02:29] <Katsumoto> ohke :) cool
[02:30] <Katsumoto> My dad's wondering if he'll be able to work with it well enough.
[02:30] <Katsumoto> he's not much of a computer person :p
[02:31] <mhz> np
[02:31] <mhz> he will enjoy as long as he understand this is NOT M$. it another OS
[02:32] <Katsumoto> that I told him...he was glad the cd booted and he'll be able to email/write/browse again :)
[02:34] <mhz> cool
[02:34] <mhz> remember that Linux is the base and desktops may vary in many senses
[02:35] <mhz> and performance is relational to hardware
[02:35] <Katsumoto> yeh I'm aware of that :)
[02:35] <Katsumoto> will make things less boring and more fun to solve :P
[02:36] <mhz> so if you hardware is modern, GNOME or KDE can be very attractive
[02:36] <mhz> if as in my case, my thin laptop prefers WindowMaker
[02:53] <Katsumoto> :)
[02:59] <juliux> ogra_, ping
[02:59] <ogra_> juliux, pong
[03:00] <juliux> ogra, do you have a moment for me?
[03:01] <ogra> sure, whats up ?
[03:01] <juliux> ogra, query?
[03:01] <juliux> ogra, about essen
[03:01] <ogra> if its necessary
[03:01] <ogra> i prefer to talk in public since the channel is logged ...
[03:01] <juliux> my english is to bad
[03:01] <juliux> ok i will try it
[03:02] <mhz> ogra: any chances to add the wiki and irc contributions to Karma (LP)?
[03:02] <mhz> :D
[03:02] <mhz> my karma is 10
[03:02] <ogra> mhz, ask #launchpad ? 
[03:02] <mhz> at it should be at least 11
[03:02] <mhz> okidoki
[03:02] <juliux> ogra, about the workshop
[03:03] <juliux> ogra, could you make a short introduction about edubuntu and the idea behin it?
[03:03] <ogra> sure
[03:03] <mhz> juliux: I have no problems you talk in german
[03:03] <juliux> mhz, i have to learn to speak in englisch
[03:03] <mhz> I'm sure ogra can answer in english
[03:05] <juliux> ogra, my idea is that we start the installation and if there is only the progressbar you can tell them something about edubuntu and then if the installation is finshed we show what we talked about, and anserd questions
[03:06] <juliux> ogra, what do you think about that?
[03:06] <mhz> juliux: just for statistics, In a talk I did, Edubuntu took 20 minutes to be installed in a 1 GHz and 128 MB ram
[03:06] <ogra> thats fine 
[03:06] <ogra> mhz, a default install ? 
[03:06] <ogra> that cant be ...
[03:06] <mhz> yup
[03:06] <juliux> mhz,  we have 90min time
[03:06] <ogra> the install takes more than 1h on all my machines here
[03:07] <juliux> ogra, i will test it in the next weeks
[03:07] <mhz> oh, I mean 20 mins after partitioning and stuff. 20 mins available while 'auto-installation- is working
[03:07] <ogra> ~30min in first stage of the installer and a bit more than 30 in the second stage
[03:07] <mhz> hmm
[03:07] <mhz> weired
[03:08] <mhz> unless the student who timed it was wrong
[03:08] <juliux> ogra, but i want show them every step in the installation progess so they see how easy it is to install edubuntu
[03:08] <ogra> juliux, i have a thin client (a real one) now ... i can bring it, together with my development server (running on my laptop) so we can show upcoming stuff
[03:09] <ogra> there are only 5 steps ... 4 of them identical to ubuntu
[03:09] <ogra> the rest is progressbars
[03:11] <mhz> ogra: I'll time it myself so I can tell true facts
[03:11] <mhz> :)
[03:12] <ogra> :)
[03:12] <mhz> and maybe we could wiki those timings as well
[03:12] <Katsumoto> lol mhz
[03:12] <mhz> specifying hw
[03:12] <Katsumoto> it's very easy to work with
[03:12] <mhz> Katsumoto: did you time it?
[03:13] <Katsumoto> configuring email accounts in evolution mail atm :)
[03:13] <Katsumoto> looks like mozilla thunderbird :)
[03:13] <Katsumoto> which I'm using
[03:15] <highvoltage> or we could get scott to make an 'installerchart' for d-i :)
[03:16] <mhz> highvoltage: hehehe
[03:16] <juliux> ogra, very cool
[03:16] <juliux> ogra, i will bring my laptop to essen where we can install edubuntu
[03:16] <ogra> fine :)=
[03:17] <juliux> ogra, we will also have a extra edubuntu server on the both, where we show edubuntu and ubuntu
[03:18] <mhz> juliux: I am using a 'thin' Fujitsu LifeBook B-2175 as edubuntu main demo (server)
[03:18] <mhz> with only 256 MB and 500 MHz (500 me's ??)
[03:19] <mhz> and so far, 1 other laptop booting from this lifebook works ok
[03:19] <mhz> though not very fast
[03:19] <juliux> mhz, i have an extra server for fairs, its my old desktop pc
[03:19] <mhz> old? how old?
[03:20] <juliux> mhz, it is a amd athlon XP 2400+
[03:20] <juliux> mhz, with 786MB ram
[03:20] <mhz> hhehehehehe
[03:20] <mhz> that old??
[03:20] <ogra> thats not much ...
[03:20] <juliux> mhz, and a very very quiet hd
[03:20] <ogra> 768 Mb will give us not more than 5 clients ...
[03:20] <juliux> ogra, if i have money i want to buy more ram
[03:20] <mhz> old here is OLD = 700 MHz or less, 192 MB or less
[03:21] <mhz> and noisy HD
[03:21] <juliux> mhz, hehe
[03:21] <mhz> juliux: your old is modern here
[03:21] <juliux> mhz, i knoe
[03:21] <juliux> know
[03:21] <mhz> heheh
[03:22] <mhz> I hope you could wiki those specs and some uses or performance
[03:22] <juliux> mhz, but i have a new notebook and i only work on the notebook
[03:22] <mhz> esp. after becoming edubuntu server
[03:23] <mhz> desktops are for compiling and rendering
[03:23] <mhz> laptops are for coding and generating wrok bases
[03:23] <mhz> work
[03:24] <ogra> mhz, i'll get a lab for testing such stuff (mem usage etc) soon...
[03:24] <mhz> wow!!! cool!
[03:24] <juliux> ogra, cool
[03:24] <mhz> we'll have more arguments for evangelising
[03:24] <ogra> yay JaneW is back
[03:24] <mhz> she was buying materials for baking
[03:25] <ogra> heh
[03:25] <juliux> ogra, you know that we have founded the ubuntu german club last saturday ?
[03:25] <ogra> i read the ubuntu-de ML ;)
[03:25] <JaneW> ogra: hi..
[03:25] <juliux> ogra, there was a mail about it?
[03:26] <ogra> juliux, yup
[03:26] <ogra> this morning
[03:26] <juliux> ogra, ok
[03:26] <ogra> JaneW, so you missed flint
[03:26] <juliux> ogra, a there was some on faster than i
[03:26] <JaneW> ogra: damn! ;P
[03:26] <JaneW> http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=qw1132148532744B216
[03:27] <ogra> JaneW, move to bellville then ;)
[03:28] <JaneW> ogra: that's where TSF offices are, I should have gone in again today... 
[03:28] <JaneW> but then the wi-fi drops every 15 mins or so...
[03:28] <ogra> heh
[03:28] <ogra> you should get powerline connections there :)
[03:30] <mhz> JaneW: I am in #launchpad suggesting to include evangelising, IRC and wiki contributions to count for Karma
[03:30] <mhz> :)
[03:30] <JaneW> mhz: good for you ;)
[03:30] <mhz> no one answered yet
[03:30] <mhz> :D
[03:30] <Katsumoto> for real, its too easy to work with...
[03:30] <mhz> Katsumoto: ?
[03:30] <Katsumoto> it even auto detected my home network
[03:31] <mhz> LOL
[03:31] <Katsumoto> have access to it etc
[03:31] <mhz> I told you
[03:31] <mhz> we told ou
[03:31] <mhz> you
[03:31] <Katsumoto> can exchange files
[03:31] <Katsumoto> lol
[03:31] <mhz> it is the other way around that DOES not want to work (M$ to others)
[03:31] <Katsumoto> too bad I'm running on this pc...otherwise I'd have installed it on this one as well.
[03:31] <Katsumoto> exactly
[03:31] <Katsumoto> running games*
[03:32] <mhz> games are an issue here 'coz, AFAIK, all companies are in favour of propietary SW
[03:32] <mhz> unless they are edu games
[03:32] <mhz> nah! even edu games!
[03:32] <Katsumoto> yeh ok.
[03:33] <mhz> I have seen such perfect ideal edu games on M$ and Mac
[03:33] <Katsumoto> it even has XChat preinstalled
[03:33] <mhz> yup
[03:33] <mhz> no need to suffer :D
[03:33] <Katsumoto> ok lets see if I can connect :)
[03:33] <mhz> hehe
[03:34] <mhz> JaneW: did this just happened?? and it on the web now?? http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=qw1132148532744B216
[03:34] <mhz> simply amazing
[03:35] <mhz> we need to be that effective here in Latinamerica
[03:35] <JaneW> mhz: yep... it happened on Friday to, but much worse, so the article was mostly written already from then ;)
[03:35] <mhz> LOL
[03:35] <JaneW> http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=vn20051112130347468C734591
[03:35] <mhz> yet, still fast
[03:36] <JaneW> yes, the article was published at 03:43PM
[03:36] <JaneW> the power failure happened at about 2:50 or so, or whatever time I vanished ;)
[03:37] <JaneW> mhz: the speed of info on the internet is incredible
[03:37] <mhz> if I ever get to CapeTown, I'll do 3 things: I'll cook empanadas (typical chilean food), I'll see highvoltage car, and I'll take pictures with you guys
[03:37] <mhz> indeed
[03:38] <JaneW> mhz: not unless we get to chile first ;)
[03:38] <zakame> mhz: empanadas!
[03:39] <mhz> JaneW: please!!! That will rock for our evangelising purposes and show people around we'are serious about the edubuntu domination here :)
[03:39] <mhz> zakame: you know empanadas?
[03:39] <zakame> mhz: of course, we make those here too :)
[03:39] <mhz> JaneW: please convince Mark to send one of you guys down here (or up here?)
[03:40] <mhz> zakame: here? where?
[03:40] <zakame> mhz: in .ph :) although some variations require baking instead of frying
[03:40] <mhz> yup
[03:41] <mhz> we use them both
[03:41] <mhz> fried for cheese ones, baked for meat ones
[03:41] <mhz> and even (the best ones) in mud ovens
[03:41] <mhz> yuuummmmmiieee
[03:42] <zakame> hehe, yeah, empanadas rock, they once even became our source of income :)
[03:42] <mhz> zakame:  but you use 'empanadas' in .ph?
[03:42] <zakame> mhz: we eat them ;)
[03:42] <mhz> LOL
[03:43] <Katsu> :D
[03:43] <mhz> zakame: you made me pour some coffee near the laptop!
[03:43] <Katsu> works 
[03:43] <mhz> Katsu: educool!
[03:43] <zakame> good to know though, I guess I won't be getting lost in chile, gastronomically speaking :)
[03:43] <Katsu> everything works just fine atm :)
[03:44] <mhz> Katsu: you've become another dominated GnuLinux user :D
[03:44] <Katsu> lol
[03:44] <Katsu> I'm glad I joined :d
[03:44] <zakame> Katsu: welcome! :D
[03:44] <mhz> Katsu: you are gonna be sued by M$ now as part of the worldwide virus 
[03:45] <Katsu> I recently discovered that yes :P
[03:45] <mhz> Katsu: of course, now you'll pay the price of freedom.
[03:45] <mhz> freedom is never easy nor free
[03:46] <Katsu> luckily there are ppl who invest in free OSes
[03:46] <Katsu> 'invest' as in put effort in it to make one
[03:46] <Katsu> ok I'm logging off from this pc
[03:46] <mhz> Katsu: when you edit your /apt/source.list and try Synaptic... you'll see how powerful community wokr is
[03:46] <Katsu> oke I'll try that
[03:46] <Katsu> bbl
[03:46] <mhz> c ya
[03:47] <mhz> ogra: hmmm, should StudyPackages be in a diff apt source?
[03:48] <Katsumoto> oke off to buy some new hardware :)
[03:48] <Katsumoto> cya
[03:48] <ogra> as i saoid yesterday, if it doesnt get to big, we can keep it in the normal archive
[03:50] <mhz> ogra: oh, indeed. I forgot
[03:50] <mhz> sorry
[03:50] <ogra> if it becomes gigabytes of content, we should think about sparation ;)
[03:51] <mhz> separation sounds dangerous to me
[03:56] <mhz> WOW!!!!
[03:56] <mhz> http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/RedirectingExternalLinks
[04:03] <mhz> ogra: is this the name you mean or LtspParams ? EdubuntuLtsParams
[04:03] <ogra> the parameters of the lts.conf file
[04:03] <ogra> so LtsParams should be the right name
[04:04] <mhz> why Lts?
[04:04] <ogra> probably make it LtsConfParams 
[04:04] <ogra> the file is called likje that
[04:04] <ogra> its historical
[04:04] <mhz> duh!!!
[04:04] <mhz> ok
[04:05] <mhz> so can I avoid confusion and redirect it to LtsConfParams?
[04:05] <mhz> (both pages will exist so subscribed users get notifications) (i guess)
[04:06] <ogra> sure
[04:25] <mhz> ogra: what do you think?
[04:25] <mhz> http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuSoftwareList
[04:25] <mhz> redirected from SwList
[04:25] <ogra> cool
[04:26] <mhz> maybe normal TableOfContents will look betta?
[04:26] <ogra> nope, looks very cool
[04:26] <mhz> This 'tweak' is good for over 3 levels of TOC
[04:26] <mhz> okidoki
[04:26] <mhz> using edubuntu theme?
[04:27] <ogra> yup
[04:28] <jsgotangco> hiya folks
[04:28] <ogra> hey jsgotangco 
[04:30] <mhz> hi jsgotangco 
[04:30] <mhz> ogra: ok, you should get email notification after redirecting
[04:30] <mhz> please let me know if you dont
[04:30] <jsgotangco> hey ogra, mhz how's it going?
[04:31] <mhz_cooking> hehehe
[04:31] <jsgotangco> sorry i wasnt able to attend the meeting at all
[04:31] <mhz_cooking> so far, so cool
[04:31] <ogra> jsgotangco, fine, thanks ... you were missed at ubz :)
[04:31] <mhz_cooking> we missed ya
[04:31] <jsgotangco> i'll make sure i attend the next conference
[04:33] <zakame> what's in seoul again?
[04:33] <jsgotangco> ogra: are we open for main inclusion reports already? (i assume yes)
[04:33] <ogra> jsgotangco, yes, but the selection wont change much
[04:34] <ogra> dapper is the conservative "polish only" release
[04:34] <ogra> so moodle and one to three desktop apps will be all...
[04:34] <jsgotangco> ahh
[04:35] <jsgotangco> did you see highvoltage's chalk theme?
[04:35] <ogra> edubuntu-artwork will change heavily and ltsp will get a lot of improvement
[04:35] <jsgotangco> zakame: software insight conference 2005, see ConferenceAppearances
[04:36] <zakame> jsgotangco: oh
[04:36] <jsgotangco> so we're getting professional artwork now?
[04:36] <jsgotangco> zakame: pretty big foss conference by the gov't
[04:36] <zakame> jsgotangco: wow, that's big indeed
[04:37] <jsgotangco> ogra: since were doing a polish release then its safe for me to continue the cookbook?
[04:37] <ogra> yup
[04:37] <jsgotangco> zakame: xandros will be there too
[04:37] <jsgotangco> ogra: cool..i got a box ready atm i can test the apps finally
[04:37] <ogra> cool
[04:43] <mhz_cooking> JaneW: i did email jane.silber 1 hr or so ago
[04:43] <zakame> jsgotangco: that's good
[04:43] <mhz_cooking> about conf. pack
[05:26] <mhz_cooking> re
[05:28] <juliux> wb mhz 
[05:28] <mhz> you too
[05:28] <mhz> :)
[05:28] <mhz> juliux: what do you do on daily basis?
[05:29] <juliux> mhz, i am study 
[05:29] <juliux> mhz, at technical university in dresden
[05:30] <mhz> oh
[05:30] <mhz> geek
[05:30] <mhz> :)
[05:31] <mhz> why interested in edubuntu, juliux ?
[05:31] <juliux> mhz, i interested in gnome and so in ubuntu
[05:31] <juliux> an 2 days befor breezy \sh_away ask in the german channel who has a ppc and can test the breezy dvd image
[05:32] <juliux> and so i try to download the ppc image
[05:32] <mhz> ok, but any specific edubuntu interests?
[05:32] <juliux> so long until ogra said there is no ppc image, and then i testet edubuntu and i find it cool
[05:32] <mhz> ppc rocks! it's a pity Apple will no longer use them
[05:32] <mhz> hahaha
[05:32] <juliux> because it is so simple to install a running ltsp
[05:33] <mhz> indeed
[05:33] <juliux> and i find that the idea behind ebuntu is cool
[05:34] <juliux> and so i decide to suppport edubuntu on fairs
[05:35] <juliux> in germany
[05:35] <mhz> juliux: thx for that help
[05:35] <juliux> mhz, what do you do on daily basis?
[05:35] <mhz> we need much
[05:35] <juliux> mhz, no problem
[05:36] <juliux> mhz, and ogra and \sh_away want that i develop something for edubuntu but i don't know what and when
[05:37] <mhz> juliux: I am 'unemployed'. As i do not want to work for stuff I do not like or share ideas with, I decided to spend my savings (turning to zero pretty soon, about 1 month) on stuff I do believe in: Free access to Knowledge and Technology.
[05:38] <juliux> ah cool
[05:41] <mhz> juliux: but the volunteering has some huge CONS if you have family. My wife is telling me: where's the money in Free as in Freedom :D
[05:45] <juliux> mhz, i know that
[05:46] <mhz> so some months ago, I started to motivate a small group of friends to work together on www.tecnocimiento.cl
[05:47] <jsgotangco> good night =)
[05:47] <mhz> c ya
[05:48] <juliux> mhz, my girlfriend everytime tell me that she want to have time with me
[05:49] <mhz> hehehe, that too
[05:49] <juliux> mhz, i do too match for gnome and ubuntu in germany
[05:49] <mhz> excellent
[05:49] <mhz> there's a GNOME devel community here
[05:52] <juliux> mhz, at the moment i am on the linuxworldexpo in frankfurt and make a gnome/ubuntu both
[05:53] <mhz> wow! sounds cool to have so much happening there
[05:54] <juliux> mhz, hm
[06:08] <mhz> highvoltage: nice to see ya
[06:16] <highvoltage> mhz: hi mhz
[06:18] <ryanbisd> howdy guys...
[06:19] <ryanbisd> is there an easy way to have edubuntu authenticate the logins thru ad?
[06:19] <mhz> highvoltage: yo uknow jane.silber?
[06:20] <highvoltage> i've met her onse, but I don't know her well.
[06:24] <mhz> ok
[06:24] <mhz> ryanbisd: ad?
[06:24] <ryanbisd> active directory
[06:24] <mhz> ahhh
[06:24] <mhz> don't know. I do know that we use SSH for logins
[06:25] <ryanbisd> well... I work for a school district
[06:25] <ryanbisd> and we use ad
[06:25] <ryanbisd> im setting up edubuntu to use as a terminal server.
[06:25] <ryanbisd> all the students have their own logins
[06:26] <ryanbisd> thru ad
[06:26] <ryanbisd> all I want on it, is to use Icewm.. and firefox
[06:26] <ryanbisd> thats it
[06:32] <Katsu> hello
[06:32] <Katsu> I'm trying to install the linux version of Java runtime env.
[06:32] <Katsu> it's a self extracting file it says
[06:33] <ogra_> take the one from multiverse, unless you urgently need the newest ...
[06:33] <Katsu> no I just want it to work properly :)
[06:33] <ogra_> it comes preconfigured for the firefox plugin etc ... no need to fiddle with it
[06:34] <ogra_> then thats the way to go... its tested and all config stuff is already done in the package
[06:34] <mhz> Katsu: which java runtime are you trying?
[06:35] <Katsu> hmm it said I had to manually dl the java runtime app. in order to display certain things
[06:35] <Katsu> Java Runtime Environment Version 5.0 Update 5
[06:35] <Katsu> that one.
[06:35] <ogra_> the package from multiverse is way easier ...
[06:36] <neurogeek> mhz, ping
[06:36] <neurogeek> jeje
[06:36] <ogra_> you dont have to modify files in etc, move parts around to get the plugin working etc
[06:36] <neurogeek> mhz, how are you doing??
[06:36] <mhz> neurogeek: pong
[06:37] <mhz> neurogeek: tired but still motivated
[06:37] <Katsu> hmm ogra, could you give me a link to the muliverse one
[06:37] <mhz> neurogeek: you?
[06:37] <Katsu> Can't really find it I guess...or I just overlooked something
[06:37] <neurogeek> mhz, great, tired as well, but everything in order
[06:37] <mhz> ogra_: mayb he means the name of the package to be apt-getted or gotten? :D
[06:38] <neurogeek> mhz, check your email.. strusberg should have sent you an email about the event at Maracaibo
[06:38] <mhz> neurogeek: in order? really? I thought geeks had little order :)
[06:38] <mhz> cool
[06:38] <ogra_> j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[06:38] <neurogeek> mhz, jeje.. well things are going well.. jeje
[06:38] <ogra_> that pulls in all needed components
[06:39] <Katsu> ok thnx :)
[06:40] <ryanbisd> how do i install xdmcp?
[06:40] <ogra_> we dont use xdmcp on ubuntu.... 
[06:41] <highvoltage> ryanbisd: are you sure you want xdmcp? edubuntu doesn't use it.
[06:41] <ryanbisd> for ltsp?
[06:41] <ogra_> we use ssh tunneling
[06:42] <ogra_> indeed if you like the old insecure way, you can use xdmcp with gdm ... needs some tweakage though
[06:42] <highvoltage> ogra_: what's the best way to connect from an existing fat client system to an edubuntu server through ssh tunneling?
[06:42] <ogra_> highvoltage, probably a script ...
[06:42] <ogra_> have a look at ldm ...
[06:42] <highvoltage> aah.
[06:42] <highvoltage> ok.
[06:42] <ogra_> the connection routines from there can easily be adapted
[06:43] <ryanbisd> is it setup automatically in edubuntu?  to work with ltsp?
[06:43] <ogra_> i'll put our ltsp in bzr this week, so you can easily check out the branch from there
[06:43] <ogra_> ryanbisd, yup
[06:43] <ogra_> nearly 100% automatic
[06:43] <ogra_> see: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes
[06:45] <ogra_> installing edubuntu is mainly answering 5 questions, waiting ~1h and adjust /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf (if needed) and youre done
[06:45] <highvoltage> ogra_: how's bzr like, you like it?
[06:45] <ogra_> yes
[06:45] <highvoltage> /nick ogra :)
[06:45] <ogra> :-P
[06:45] <highvoltage> :)
[06:46] <ogra> have a trxy with bzr .... it has a real cool gui vizualization of the branches and merges of a tre
[06:46] <ogra> e
[06:46] <ogra> it finally made me understand the process :) and its way easier to use than bazaar
[06:47] <highvoltage> nice, i'll play with it this weekend when i have internet at home again. atm i'm connected with gprs where it costs me +/- US$0.50/MB
[06:47] <highvoltage> cool, i want better understanding too.
[06:47] <highvoltage> even the merges confused me.
[06:48] <ogra> deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/snapshot/bzr/ ./
[06:48] <ogra> ^^^ dapper package
[06:48] <ogra> install bzr and bzrk 
[06:50] <ogra> highvoltage, then try: bzr viz http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/bzr-archive/student-control-panel-0.1/
[06:58] <Katsu> ogra: is it possible to play .avi files?
[06:58] <Katsu> if so, I need plugins for it...where can I find those?
[06:58] <ogra> out of the box there are only free codecs installed ...
[06:59] <mhz> Katsu: try mplayer (afaik)
[06:59] <ogra> you find all the nonfree stuff in multiverse ... look for gstreamer-plugins
[06:59] <ogra> or even install the totem-xine backend ...
[06:59] <ogra> or mplayer as mhz said
[07:00] <Katsu> it uses Totem player as a default
[07:00] <ogra> yes
[07:01] <ogra> so totem-xine does only change the backend and you dont need a gazillion plugins :)
[07:01] <ogra> totem default needs all the gstreamer backends
[07:01] <mhz> neurogeek: wow! the email got listed with date Nov 7th
[07:02] <mhz> so either I missed it or he has a little issue with 'date'
[07:04] <mhz> neurogeek: Ricardo asks me to cover the air tickets Chile-Venezuela. He can take care of 'me' from there.
[07:04] <mhz> neurogeek: *sigh*
[07:05] <mhz> neurogeek: believe me, I am so willing to be there. Esp. for the Instituto Latinoamericano de Tecnologias Libres
[07:12] <Katsu> hmm where can I get this totem-xine
[07:12] <ogra> universe 
[07:12] <mhz> apt-get install totem-xine
[07:12] <ogra> just use synaptic and enable all the additional repositorys
[07:13] <ogra> then search for it
[07:13] <mhz> well, that too
[07:13] <mhz> :)
[07:13] <ogra> doubleclick and click apply
[07:13] <mhz> click-click
[07:13] <Katsu> hmm do I need to be logged into root?
[07:13] <ogra> there is no root :)
[07:14] <ogra> we use sudo all over the place ... 
[07:14] <Katsu> E: Kon het vergrendelingsbestand '/var/lib/apt/lists/lock' niet openen - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:14] <ogra> so in the gui, if a password dialog pops up, just give your password
[07:15] <Katsu> yes
[07:15] <ogra> and in terminal put sudo in front 
[07:16] <Katsu> sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[07:16] <Katsu> asks for a pass
[07:16] <Katsu> but I can't enter anything
[07:16] <ogra> you just dont see anything ;)
[07:16] <Katsu> ah.
[07:17] <ogra> enter your pw and hit enter 
[07:17] <ogra> thats why i normally not refer to commandline in support :)
[07:18] <Katsu> hmm is says it' either can't find the totem-xine application or it's just not there.
[07:18] <Katsu> libtotem-plparser0 should be an option it says
[07:18] <ogra> do you have universe enabled ? 
[07:19] <Katsu> dont know where to see that.
[07:19] <Katsu> *noob*
[07:20] <ogra> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy universe multiverse
[07:20] <ogra> ^^^ this line should be in /etc/apt/sources.list without a # sign in front
[07:20] <ogra> alternatively use synaptic
[07:21] <ogra> System->Settings->Synaptic
[07:21] <ogra> open Settings->Package sources from the menu
[07:22] <ogra> and add the missing ones ...
[07:35] <Katsu> right I searched for totem-xine...I found it..it says it's installed
[07:35] <Katsu> when I click Package I dont have an option to upgrade it..
[07:36] <ogra> it has agreen square in front ? 
[07:36] <Katsu> yes it has
[07:37] <ogra> hmm, and you cant play avi files ? 
[07:39] <Katsu> nope
[07:40] <ogra> hmm, works here
[07:40] <ogra> are you sure its avi, not wma or something ? 
[07:40] <Katsu> I want to play LotR, whe I double click it, it starts up totem player but after that it says that  there were no decoders found to handle the stream
[07:40] <ogra> the evil codecs are in the w32codecs package we cant ship
[07:41] <Katsu> you might need to install the corresponding plugins."
[07:41] <Katsu> ah
[07:41] <ogra> totem-xine shouldnt say such things ...
[07:41] <ogra> but try to install w32codecs
[07:42] <Katsu> which can be found in the synaptic package manager?
[07:42] <ogra> nope
[07:42] <ogra> it is highly illegal, we cant ship it
[07:42] <ogra> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[07:42] <Katsu> ah.
[07:42] <ogra> try downloading this and install it with: sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[07:43] <Katsu> oke
[07:43] <ogra> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for more information
[07:43] <Katsu> I'll try
[07:43] <Katsu> should the file be in any specific folder to be installed?
[07:44] <ogra> nope
[07:45] <ogra> but in the folder you cureently are, else you need to give the path where its located in front of the filename
[07:45] <Katsu> it's in My Downloads
[07:46] <ogra> so go there in a terminal and issue the above command
[07:49] <Katsu> ah the file was downloaded into File System > tmp
[07:50] <ogra> then cd /tmp in your terminal
[07:50] <Katsu> how would that command be: sudo dpkg -i /tmp w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb?
[07:50] <Katsu> ohk
[07:50] <paolob> Guys, what about migrating to edubuntu from testing now?
[07:52] <Katsu> ok its installed
[07:52] <Katsu> still gives that same error.
[07:52] <Katsu> weird.
[07:54] <ogra> paolob, `
[07:54] <ogra> sudo dpkg -i /tmp/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[07:54] <ogra> paolob, err that should be a ?
[07:55] <ogra> paolob, you want to migrate from etch to edubuntu ? 
[07:55] <ogra> (edubuntu breezy to be precise)
[08:01] <Katsu> sry ogra, but I have very little knowledge about linux.
[08:02] <Katsu> I have dl-ed nvidia display drivers for linux. it's in my /home/<name> dir
[08:02] <ogra> noo
[08:02] <Katsu> what would the command line be to install it?
[08:02] <ogra> we have a package ;)
[08:02] <Katsu> ooh
[08:02] <Katsu> oke
[08:02] <Katsu> lol
[08:02] <ogra> make sure linux-restricted-modules is installed
[08:03] <ogra> additionally install nvidia-glx for the non module stuff
[08:04] <Katsu> I have that installed yes: 3 appz, all have a green mark
[08:04] <Katsu> ah installing :)
[08:05] <Katsu> thanks again :P
[08:07] <ogra> put a line reading nvidia in /etc/modules
[08:08] <ogra> and change "nv" to "nvidia" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:08] <ogra> then reboot and you should see the nvidia logo
[08:13] <Katsu> so I installed nvidia-glx
[08:15] <Katsu> Section "Device"
[08:15] <Katsu> 	Identifier	"NVIDIA Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] "
[08:15] <Katsu> 	Driver		"nv"
[08:15] <Katsu> 	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[08:15] <Katsu> that's what it says
[08:16] <ogra> change nv to nvidia
[08:16] <ogra> and make sure the modulename nvidia is in /etc/modules
[08:16] <Katsu> oke, wasn't sure if that was what u meant :)
[08:18] <Katsu> hm opened xorg.conf with gedit
[08:18] <Katsu> can't seem to add/remove words
[08:19] <ogra> did you use sudo ?
[08:20] <Katsu> done
[08:22] <Katsu> I don't have an /etc/modules dir
[08:30] <neurogeek> mhz, hello!!
[08:30] <mhz> re
[08:33] <neurogeek> mhz, so.. what do you think of the proposal for Maracaibo?
[08:33] <mhz> I love it
[08:33] <mhz> it's just that I have no funds I can use for the travel
[08:33] <mhz> (so far)
[08:34] <neurogeek> mhz, I hope you can go 
[08:34] <mhz> every single cent we have collected among some volunteers is being saved for the Edubuntu Chilean Tour
[08:34] <mhz> neurogeek: I know I must be there
[08:34] <mhz> I know it is the time
[08:35] <mhz> we are in timeline that we need to push harder
[08:35] <mhz> LA is getting too much influence from propiatary technology fans and patents guys 
[08:35] <Katsumoto> hmm
[08:35] <neurogeek> mhz, yes.. and strusberg has some plans for education, it would be really nice we could get together and talk about some projects
[08:35] <Katsumoto> apparently the graphical X server won't work
[08:36] <Katsumoto> now ubuntu won't reboot properly anymore
[08:36] <mhz> neurogeek: that's my point
[08:36] <Katsumoto> I can login with my name+pass
[08:36] <mhz> neurogeek: I asked strusberg for a more formal email I can paste and forward to Emabajador de Venezuela en Chile, just in case they have some funds for this
[08:37] <mhz> neurogeek: I asked him to describe why it is important for us to be together
[08:37] <mhz> Katsumoto: but?
[08:37] <neurogeek> mhz, No prob. He is giving a class right now, he'll be reading that email in no time
[08:38] <mhz> cool
[08:38] <mhz> I'd like to pay the embassy a visit tomorrow
[08:38] <Katsumoto> I tried to re-edit the file again: cd gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[08:38] <ogra> Katsumoto, thats a file, not a dir
[08:39] <ogra> (the /etc/modules)
[08:39] <neurogeek> Katsumoto, i think you meant sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:39] <Katsumoto> yes, so any clue how I can fix it?
[08:39] <Katsumoto> yes thats what I meant
[08:39] <ogra> gedit wont work without gui#
[08:39] <ogra> use nano
[08:40] <Katsumoto> ok
[08:40] <neurogeek> Katsumoto, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:40] <ogra> but: sudo modprobe nvidia && /etc/init.d/gdm restart 
[08:40] <ogra> should do it too
[08:40] <ogra> the module isnt loaded
[08:41] <ogra> oh, there is a sudo missing
[08:41] <ogra> but: sudo modprobe nvidia && sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart 
[08:41] <ogra> will work
[08:41] <highvoltage> goodnight ogra (and other edubunteros)
[08:41] <ogra> night highvoltage 
[08:48] <Katsumoto> heh, with that cmd line it says: there is no such device
[08:49] <ogra> lsmod |grep nvidia 
[08:49] <ogra> does that give any output ?
[08:49] <Katsumoto> lets see
[08:50] <mhz> oh, maybe not nvidia?
[08:51] <ogra> hmm, riva tnt2 ... thats very old...
[08:51] <mhz> how about dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ?
[08:51] <ogra> wont help with the module
[08:51] <Katsumoto> yeh riva tnt2 is very old :P
[08:51] <Katsumoto> 32mb
[08:51] <ogra> the x config is fine already
[08:51] <Katsumoto> and no lsmod doesn't give anything.
[08:52] <Katsumoto> guess I really screwed up somehow
[08:52] <ogra> nope
[08:52] <ogra> do: apt-cache search nvidia-legacy
[08:53] <ogra> it should give some output
[08:53] <ogra> you need the legacy module which is in linux-restricted-modules-....-legacy
[08:54] <ogra> and nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:55] <Katsumoto> heh
[08:56] <Katsumoto> apt-cache search nvidia-legacy: gave nothing
[08:56] <ogra> you need the restricted archive enbled
[08:57] <Katsumoto> lol.
[08:58] <ogra> just change back /etc/X11/xorg.conf from "nvidia" to "nv" :)
[08:58] <ogra> then your X server will work again
[08:59] <Katsumoto> yes that's what I was thinkin...but apparently when I do: sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[08:59] <Katsumoto> I get a blank page...
[08:59] <ogra> the X11 is capitalized :)
[08:59] <Katsumoto> k.
[09:04] <Katsumoto> righ, changed it back to normal. how do I save the changes? just do alt f4 ?
[09:04] <ogra> i'm no nano user ... but i gess ctrl-k
[09:04] <Katsumoto> ^G ^X, those symbols I have no clue which keys that are on my kb :P
[09:04] <Katsumoto> ah
[09:04] <Katsumoto> ok
[09:04] <ogra> the little ^ means control
[09:05] <ogra> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart should bring you back to a gui login
[09:07] <Katsumoto> ctl+K means cut text
[09:07] <Katsumoto> ^J = justify
[09:07] <Katsumoto> might be that one?
[09:09] <ogra> ctrl-X
[09:09] <ogra> for exit :)
[09:10] <mhz> ctrl + o to save
[09:10] <Katsumoto> ok
 to accept changes and name
[09:14] <Katsu> thanks for helping me once more :P
[09:14] <Katsu> sry I messed up earlier
[09:15] <ogra> :)
[09:15] <ogra> dont worry :)
[09:15] <Katsu> dinnertime
[09:15] <Katsu> heh
[09:16] <ogra> yup, here too
[09:31] <mhz_idle> ogra: do you know which TZ is jane silber?
[09:37] <mhz_idle> hehehe, we should have EduPoints in order to motivate more participation
[09:38] <DeeJay1> hello
[09:39] <mhz_idle> hi
[09:40] <DeeJay1> sadly I have some trouble with edubuntu
[09:40] <DeeJay1> X windows won't start on the thin client
[09:41] <DeeJay1> with a "Fatal server error" Unrecognized option: vttty
[09:41] <DeeJay1> vttty1 (sorry)
[09:43] <mhz_idle> ?
[09:43] <mhz_idle> weired
[09:43] <mhz_idle> where did that messsage appear?
[09:43] <DeeJay1> on the thin client console
[09:44] <mhz_idle> and X is running on server?
[09:45] <mhz_idle> did you try $ sudo ltsp-update ssh-keys ?
[09:45] <mhz_idle> (on server side)
[09:45] <DeeJay1> no I din't wait
[09:47] <DeeJay1>  /s/din\t/didn\'t/ 
[09:47] <DeeJay1> damn keyboard :(
[09:52] <mhz_idle> hehehe
[09:58] <DeeJay1> I'm changing the root filesystem to rw
[09:58] <DeeJay1> maybe we'll see something in the logs here :/
[10:07] <DeeJay1> brb
[10:09] <yvesC> ogra, what the deadline for new version of gcompris in drapper?
[10:28] <DeeJay1> re
[10:28] <DeeJay1> hmm, is there the ltsp chroot somewhere to download ?
[10:29] <DeeJay1> it did a selfdestruct here :/
[10:38] <neurogeek> re