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Tonio_Riddell: mateedit uploaded01:28
RiddellTonio_: rocking01:28
Tonio_Riddell: I had to patch the source, because of a non include .h file01:28
Tonio_I sent the patch to the upstream01:28
Tonio_Riddell: strange that he released the sources like this....... I can't understand how it could compile correctly01:29
RiddellTonio_: it'll be gcc 401:32
Tonio_Riddell: means ?01:32
=== Tonio_ isn't a developper ;)
RiddellTonio_: gcc 4 is more strict in the C++ is accepts01:33
Riddellthan gcc 301:33
Tonio_okay01:33
Riddellwe had to fix a tonne of stuff for KDE to compile01:33
Tonio_but even with gcc3, how could it compile if a .h declaring a class is not included ?01:34
Riddellit'll be included somewhere else01:34
Tonio_okay01:35
Tonio_gcc3 ignoring the error and the file included after, I see01:35
Tonio_Riddell: anyway, it is patched, it works, and the upstream is informed ;)01:35
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maehello03:30
maeye scurvy dogs03:30
Riddellhello mae 03:33
maehello!03:33
maeis there any plans of adding kubuntu to the shipit system for dapper?03:33
Riddellmae: yes, if we get a live installer working03:34
maeah03:34
maeso03:36
maewhats the word -- whats the wicked cool shit that will get in dapper03:36
Riddell?03:38
Riddellmornfall: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-November/013048.html04:10
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LathiatRiddell: yeh that looks nifty, wheres the kde version? ;)04:28
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mornfallLathiat: wherever you put it? :)08:48
Lathiatmornfall: ;)08:53
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pefhello12:50
Riddellhi pef 12:51
pefhello Jonathan, I'm working on kwallet support for Konversation, that's not so easy ;)12:52
Riddellpef: cool.  what's the difficulty?12:52
pefRiddell: not because of the code, but because of the "policy", should I use it here or not, if not available store passwords plaintext, etc12:55
Riddellif it's not available just don't keep the passwords, else it's a security risk12:57
pefok :)01:02
Riddellanyone know jpatrick's e-mail?02:09
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jjesseRiddell: got your emails and will be following up w/ the today throughout work02:26
Riddellgroovy02:35
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jeroenvrpRiddell: ping03:03
Riddelljeroenvrp: hi03:04
jeroenvrphi03:04
jeroenvrpsomehow I still receive this error/warning after updating/installing0 a package with apt-get (using Synaptic)\:03:05
jeroenvrpE: kdeedu-doc-html: subproces post-installation script gaf een foutwaarde 2 terug03:05
jeroenvrpE: kdepim-doc: subproces post-installation script gaf een foutwaarde 2 terug03:05
Riddelljeroenvrp: yeah, I havn't fixed that yet03:05
jeroenvrpok03:05
RiddellI'll make sure to do so before uploading to dapper03:05
jeroenvrpso it is known03:05
Riddellmind and keep an eye on it for me03:06
jeroenvrpanother question maybe you will know03:06
jeroenvrpor else someone else03:06
jeroenvrpis it possible to change the sources.list on the install ISO03:06
jeroenvrp?03:06
jeroenvrpthe one being installed03:06
jeroenvrpI have mounted the iso, but can't find it03:06
Riddell?03:07
jeroenvrpor is there a webpage describing the install process?03:07
jeroenvrpRiddell: is the ?, because you dont know or that you don't understand the question :-)03:07
Riddelljeroenvrp: I don't understand the question03:09
jeroenvrpok again03:10
jeroenvrpafter Kubuntu is installed, there is a sources.list without universe and multiverse enabled03:10
jeroenvrpI want to make sure it is enabled after installation03:11
Riddelljeroenvrp: edit sources.list then03:16
jeroenvrpwhat I mean is to it automatically during the installation (from CD)03:16
jeroenvrpso in other words, change the installation a little bit03:17
Riddellyou can't03:17
jeroenvrpoh03:17
jeroenvrpand why is that?03:17
jeroenvrpis it a binary who takes care of that?03:17
Riddellit's the installer03:17
Riddellit doesn't have an edit option03:18
jeroenvrpok, and you can't configure/customize that03:18
jeroenvrpok03:18
jeroenvrpthat's a shame, but ok :-)03:18
jeroenvrpthansk for you answer03:18
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jeroenvrpRiddell: I did a ugly hack and I solved the error I gave you03:39
jeroenvrpyou want to know?03:40
Riddelljeroenvrp: sure03:40
Riddelljjesse: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/KubuntuFaq cool03:40
jeroenvrpRiddell: allthough it still want to update kdepim-dev03:40
jjesseRiddell: awesome03:41
jeroenvrpit is doing that, but after that it still wants to update03:41
jeroenvrpanyhow03:41
jeroenvrpit was complaing about /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kmessedwords/.dhelp and /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kdepim-apidocs/.dhelp that they doesn't exist03:42
jeroenvrpso I did a touch03:42
jeroenvrpthat gives not an error anymore03:42
jeroenvrpallthough kdepim-dev installs, but still wants to be upgraded afterwards03:43
jeroenvrpbut that is not a big problem03:43
Riddellyep, cool03:44
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jjesseanyone having issues w/ mail to any *ubuntu mailing lists?05:26
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Riddelljjesse: been working for me all day05:42
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Yann2Riddell > ping06:01
RiddellYann2: hi06:01
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Yann2Riddell > the french meeting is in 3 hours, if you want to be there :)06:02
Riddellyes, havn't got a reply form kubuntuforums yet though06:02
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Verwilsthrm, kaffeine still sucks donkey balls in kubuntu :(06:17
Verwilstnow it segfaults when i try to play a movie06:17
Verwilstrah06:19
Verwilstdpkg: fout bij afhandelen van /var/cache/apt/archives/gstreamer0.8-visuals_0.8.11-0unofficialubuntu5.1_i386.deb (--unpack):06:19
Verwilst poging tot overschrijven van `/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstgoom.so', wat ook in pakket gstreamer0.8-misc zit06:19
RiddellVerwilst: upgrading from what to what?06:20
Verwilstno upgrading06:20
Verwilstclean kubuntu install06:20
Riddellbreezy?06:20
Verwilstyip06:20
RiddellE: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-visuals06:21
Riddellhmm, unofficial...06:21
Verwilstapt-get remove gstreamer0.8-plugins-unofficial ;)06:23
Verwilstdeb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ breezy main06:23
Verwilstprobably this one, for w32codec06:23
Verwilsts06:23
Verwilstwoohoow, plays06:26
author-psiVerwilst: nice rep :D06:28
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Verwilsthehe06:28
Verwilstalright, video playing is approved! :d06:32
Verwilstopened some euh.. national geographic videos...06:32
Verwilst:d06:32
Verwilstgrm but my konversation systray icon keeps flashing red whenever somebody says anything :p06:35
Verwilstthere06:36
Verwilstperfect now06:36
alleeRiddell: libk{ipi,exif} + c2 / c2a / none 06:40
Riddellallee: none please06:40
alleeyeah I know your preference (I share it)06:41
Diablo-D3hey Riddell 06:41
Diablo-D3you said arts needs to be fixed, right?06:41
alleeRiddell: Just to points that are pro 'c2' in kubuntu:06:41
alleekubuntu mini c++ is (I'm) sure_ quicker than debian06:42
alleeso you can just sync with latest sid and be done (no changes in rdepending pkgs necessary)06:43
Riddellallee: mini c++?06:44
alleethe communication ways in ubuntu are shorter, so less work to get a "" -> c2 in (debian annouce mentioned c2 -> c2a)06:44
alleethe default mem allocator change in g++06:44
Riddellshould be the same06:44
alleelibkipi has also one ABI change pending so with next libkipi release we get rid of c2 for libkipi06:45
Riddellthat's what I said06:45
alleeYeah, but in the mini c++ transition, there is no need to change it06:46
allee+ now06:46
Riddellthere wasn't a need to change it before06:47
Riddellso we may as well use the opportunity to change it back06:48
alleeWell, summary  I can try to explain not necessary c2 -> "" rename to ftp-master in the changelog and (faster) ubuntu has to merge/sync by hand or you sync with debian sid ignoring diff (which adds the c2) and be done06:48
alleeI assume ftp-master may not be happy to have 'unnecessary' NEW pkgs06:49
Riddellit's a c++ transition, they'll have to be happy06:49
Riddellthey've already had this package unnecessarily06:49
alleeYou like it very clean. ;)  'k I'll will try06:51
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RiddellbinNMU sounds a bit evil06:55
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RiddellDiablo-D3: hmm?06:56
alleeRiddell: well, everything rdepending on kdelibs can AFAIU reuploaded unchanged and rebuild or just an automatic binary rebuild (I read that debian infrastructure makes this easy now)06:57
Diablo-D3Riddell: <Diablo-D3> you said arts needs to be fixed, right?06:57
alleeI'll ask if something like that is planed for KDE apps06:57
RiddellDiablo-D3: mm hmm06:57
Diablo-D3Riddell: can you upload new version of arts? ;)06:57
RiddellDiablo-D3: to which?06:57
Diablo-D3to dapper.06:57
=== Diablo-D3 wants a working kdesktop =/
Riddellsorry, needs to wait on c++ transition06:58
Riddelltomorrow hopefully06:58
Diablo-D3in the mean time, I have to rebuild amarok06:58
Diablo-D3because it no longer functions correctly06:59
Diablo-D3well, after updating kde, anyways07:00
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Diablo-D3Riddell: Im glad I have dsl07:04
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Diablo-D3and now its done07:18
Diablo-D3hrm07:21
Diablo-D3that didnt fix it07:21
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Diablo-D3eventually I'll find which package is making amarok think there are no songs in the db07:30
Diablo-D3Riddell: btw, is amarok 1.3.5 going to be added to dapper?07:32
Diablo-D3aaaaaah07:34
Diablo-D3I see whats going on07:35
Diablo-D3there is songs in my collection07:35
Diablo-D3but it doesnt recognize that songs Im playing are in the collection07:35
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Tonio_hi08:14
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jjessehello Tonio_ 08:26
Tonio_yop08:33
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Diablo-D3holy shit09:03
Diablo-D3I can press control on konq09:03
Diablo-D3and it shows all the ... um... key shortcut thingies09:04
Diablo-D3hotkeys or whatever09:04
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Riddellhave we ever heard of kalahad?09:56
Diablo-D3no we havent09:57
Diablo-D3is that a typo of galahad?09:57
Diablo-D3g... k... oh my.09:57
Riddellhe's wanting to join kubuntu-team on launchpad09:58
=== Diablo-D3 must name an app that
Diablo-D3just to piss the gnomeites off09:58
Riddellthat would annoy sensible KDE people too10:00
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