[12:03] <chx> I knows this is stupid, but is there a way to read Acrobat ebooks on kubuntu?
[12:03] <crimsun> sure
[12:03] <crimsun> !info acroread
[12:03] <ubotu> acroread: (Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer), section multiverse/text, is optional. Version: 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 22263 kB, Installed size: 53192 kB
[12:04] <chx> acroread does not support ebooks on linux
[12:04] <chx> next idea?
[12:04] <crimsun> ...it doesn't?
[12:05] <chx> crimsun: I was unable to make it work
[12:05] <crimsun> using the version in multiverse?
[12:05] <chx> ii  acroread                              7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1
[12:06] <crimsun> hmm
[12:07] <chx> very strange
[12:07] <nalioth> crimsun: fyi, i built the 3.4.2 tree from hoary and dont have the multiple select problem with it
[12:08] <chx> one store, vault, says "Linux and Unix users: The default download version of Vault guides can be used with Adobe Reader 7.0, which is compatible with Linux and Unix."
[12:10] <chx> i am trying acroread-plugins
[12:11] <arcanistherogue> how do you cahnge the login screen?  I don't like the default kubuntu one.
[12:12] <pupil> I need to reinstall the kde that came with kubuntu,. how do i that?
[12:12] <Riddell> arcanistherogue: edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[12:12] <arcanistherogue> Riddell: k, ill check htis out
[12:12] <pupil> How do I reinstall the kde that came with kubuntu?
[12:12] <Riddell> pupil: apt-get remove libqt3-mt && apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:13] <pupil> and where should I do that from ?
[12:13] <fatejudger> !javadebs
[12:13] <ubotu> methinks javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/
[12:13] <pupil> Riddell, where should I do that from,. because I am in xfce4 right now
[12:13] <arcanistherogue> Riddell: eh... how do i edit this? O_o  I opened it in nano, but what should I edit? I dont like the look entirely, I liked 5.04's much much better
[12:14] <Riddell> pupil: command line
[12:14] <Riddell> arcanistherogue: edit the theme line
[12:14] <pupil> in the konsole?
[12:14] <arcanistherogue> Riddell: gotcha.
[12:14] <arcanistherogue> pupil:  yup
[12:15] <arcanistherogue> pupil well if you are in XFCE just right click and hit terminal
[12:16] <pupil> arcanistherogue, I'm just hoping it doesn't affect xfce4
[12:16] <arcanistherogue> pupil it shouldnt, i have XFCE, GNOME, and KDE installed
[12:16] <arcanistherogue> pupil:  and icewm and enlightenment, and i think flux and black box
[12:16] <pupil> arcanistherogue, I
[12:16] <arcanistherogue> pupil i fool around with the packages all the time and it odenst do anything bad.
[12:17] <pupil> arcanistherogue, I am not reffering to the number of window mangers,. I am reffering to uninsttalling kde when I am running xfce4
[12:17] <sorush20> anyone here using creative Zen micro drive with ubuntu etc/
[12:17] <sorush20> ?
[12:18] <arcanistherogue> pupil:  yeah, i meant that.  I fool around with them (installing, removing) all the time. as long as no libraries are shared it should do poo
[12:19] <_roy> hey if i want to open/install an exe...I have to get a whole windows commercial environment like win4lin etc?
[12:19] <arcanistherogue> no
[12:19] <arcanistherogue> _roy: use WINE or Cedega if it is a game
[12:19] <_roy> if its not a game.....
[12:19] <arcanistherogue> _roy: I'm not too experienced with either, but google is your friend
[12:19] <_roy> like if its a program
[12:20] <_roy> o ok
[12:20] <arcanistherogue> _roy, sorry i mean WINE if it isnt and cedega if it is
[12:21] <_roy> o
[12:22] <_roy> alright.. also kopete crashes as sson as  itype my first letter in a conversation ( im using AIM protocol)
[12:22] <_roy> soon*
[12:22] <arcanistherogue> _roy:  I never liked kopete, not stable IMO
[12:22] <arcanistherogue> _roy: well, not stable enough.  nearly nothing is stable ;).  Just use gaim
[12:23] <arcanistherogue> _roy:  there is a package you can install to make gtk2 apps loook nice in qt, i forgot its name
[12:27] <_roy> arcanistherogue: i use gaim bhiut it looks so plain and gnome looking, u know, thats the reason I have KDe, since gnome is so ugly IMO
[12:28] <_roy> KDE*
[12:29] <fatejudger> Riddell: I don't mean to pester, but is there a timeframe as to when the all the KDE RC1 packages will be available?
[12:29] <Riddell> fatejudger: what are you missing?
[12:30] <nalioth> Riddell: you never answer my questions.
[12:30] <Riddell> nalioth: what's your question?
[12:31] <slow-motion> n8
[12:31] <arcanistherogue> _roy: meh... tough nuts :/
[12:31] <Le_Chat> quit
[12:31] <nalioth> Riddell: i asked you a question yesterday and you never answered it. i dont remember the question. probably because i built kdebase_3.4.2 so i could use a konq that worked
[12:32] <fatejudger> Riddell: The rest of the KDE RC1 packages, it says that the rest would be compile over the weekend
[12:32] <fatejudger> *compiled
[12:32] <Riddell> fatejudger: they're all up now except kdesdk, kdewebdev and kdevelop
[12:32] <fatejudger> Riddell: oh ok
[12:32] <fatejudger> Riddell: I thought there would be more repos
[12:32] <fatejudger> Riddell: I guess I'll apt-get upgrade then, thanks :D
[12:33] <Riddell> nalioth: sorry, I must have missed it, or been busy or something
[12:33] <fatejudger> Riddell: oh and by the way, I'm not sure that arts bug is present anymore, contrary to what it says on the wiki
[12:33] <nalioth> Riddell: i'll find malone and search and/or add my bugs
[12:33] <Riddell> fatejudger: it shouldn't be
[12:34] <fatejudger> Riddell: well there was an arts problem on Beta 2
[12:34] <fatejudger> Riddell: and someone posted it as an RC1 bug as well
[12:34] <nalioth> Riddell: can you multiple select in 3.5rc1 konq filemanager?
[12:34] <nalioth> Riddell: with the ctrl key?
[12:34] <fatejudger> nalioth: you could always do that
[12:35] <Riddell> nalioth: I can yes
[12:35] <fatejudger> nalioth: I have Beta 2 on here and can do it
[12:35] <Riddell> fatejudger: I rebuild arts without visibility which should have fixed it
[12:36] <fatejudger> Riddell: ok, cool, I'll upgrade my desktop to KDE 3.5 RC1 then
[12:37] <nalioth> i upgraded to breezy and had no multiple select with ctrl key and mouse
[12:37] <fatejudger> I can't wait until they fix the gstreamer problems, that's basically the only thing left that I've had problems with
[12:37] <nalioth> so i downgraded to 3.4.2
[12:37] <fatejudger> xine is just so much more reliable...
[12:38] <mianos2k> hi there
[12:38] <mianos2k> little prob here
[12:38] <_mrmarcel> hi
[12:38] <mianos2k> in kde, i right klick on a *.deb - where is the kubuntu package menu - ? yesterday it was there
[12:38] <mianos2k> strange?
[12:38] <fatejudger> is someone going to host the !javadebs on a reliable server?
[12:39] <fatejudger> ever since the main one went down I haven't been able to get java
[12:40] <bimberi> fatejudger: blackdown (1.4) is available in multiverse
[12:40] <bimberi> fatejudger: also, javadebs has changed recently ...
[12:40] <bimberi> !javadebs
[12:40] <ubotu> javadebs is, like, Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/
[12:41] <nalioth> why is there not a i386-smp kernel?
[12:44] <fatejudger> I'm getting this error when "apt-get update"-ing -> "W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"
[12:44] <fatejudger> I'm thinking I should clear all of my keys in apt-key and then reload only the needed ones?
[12:45] <nalioth> !gpgerr
[12:45] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[12:45] <mianos2k> anyone an idea?
[12:47] <gupta> Is it a bad idea to remove language-english-en? Doesn't matter if aspell or office breaks.
[12:47] <gupta> Is it a bad idea to remove language-english-en? Doesn't matter if aspell or office breaks.
[12:50] <tgwj> hi ! I have a logitech keyboard with special keys for WWW, volume etc. how do I configure these in kde ?
[12:52] <neko> you'll be wanting lineak IIRC
[12:52] <fatejudger> nalioth: thanks
[12:55] <bnD> can someone let me know the command to upgrade my kernel from 386 to 686?
[12:56] <tgwj> neko: lineak looks interesting, though not too active ;-) I would use KHotkeys, but It doesn't seam to like non-standard keys. gnome has lovely support for spacial keyboards...
[12:56] <nalioth> bnD: use adept and pick it to install
[12:57] <tgwj> oh active after all... confusing screenshots 
[12:58] <Delvien> this is frustrating.
[12:58] <bnD> nalioth, thanks
[12:58] <Delvien> can anyone tell me how to fix this ?http://pastebin.com/431086
[12:58] <bnD> anyone know how to turn down touchpad sensitivity or disable touchpad clicking?
[12:59] <Hobbsee> bnD: check in kcontrol, mouse
[12:59] <neko> I think the main problem with lineak under kubuntu atm is something to do with a varsion mismatch in the repositries or something, so you can't actually use the setup utilities
[12:59] <Delvien> long time no see Hobbsee
[12:59] <bnD> Hobbsee, thank ye
[12:59] <Hobbsee> hey Delvien :)
[12:59] <Riddell> Delvien: install kde headers
[12:59] <Hobbsee> bnD: no problems
[01:00] <neko> I haven't gotten to look too far into that myself though - too busy wondering why the hell X keeps freezing when I'm using nvidia's drivers
[01:00] <Delvien> Riddell what are the names?
[01:00] <bnD> Hobbsee, didnt see it there, but thanks :)
[01:00] <Hobbsee> bnD: advanced tab :P
[01:01] <bnD> Hobbsee, which option in advanced would relate to that? maybe im confused ;)
[01:01] <nalioth> Delvien: kde-devel
[01:02] <Hobbsee> bnD: double click interval will change the time it takes to double click - that's probably a start
[01:02] <bnD> problem is that it isnt double clicking, its single clicking
[01:02] <Delvien> nalioth ah, those musta gotten clammed when i accidently uninstalled KDE :P
[01:02] <bnD> for instance while navigating menus, it will click an item i am trying to pass
[01:02] <bnD> [;
[01:02] <Hobbsee> bnD: general tab, the bit about icons
[01:03] <Hobbsee> is automatically select icons checked?
[01:03] <bnD> nope
[01:03] <bnD> i dont mind the current behavior, i just dont want it to click from the touchpad, rather than the left mouse button
[01:04] <bnD> its not that its necessarily running things, but its single clicking different windows, etc
[01:04] <bnD> while im trying to navigate
[01:04] <Hobbsee> hmmm...
[01:07] <bnD> Hobbsee, google's telling me i need 'ksynaptics' touchpad driver, and that i will then have a touchpad selection under peripherals :)
[01:07] <bnD> so im gonna see how that works out
[01:07] <bnD> ;)
[01:07] <Hobbsee> bnD: ah...that could be useful
[01:15] <dmlinux> what does all this mean http://pastebin.com/431100?
[01:47] <kubuntu_guy> gudmorning
[01:48] <Hobbsee> hey kubuntu_guy 
[01:48] <_roy> whats the easiest way to install mplayer on kubuntu?
[01:48] <Hobbsee> !mplayer
[01:48] <ubotu> hmm... mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[01:49] <Hobbsee> that way?
[01:49] <kubuntu_guy> Guys I already setup my samba server Im using kubuntu, MY win98 are able to log in my samba but my problem is my win2k machine and xp machine, what will I use for the username to be able to join my win2k machine
[01:50] <_roy> This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page,...........
[01:50] <Hobbsee> ah...
[01:50] <Hobbsee> fixing it...
[01:51] <Hobbsee> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[01:51] <kubuntu_guy> hi hobbsee
[01:51] <kubuntu_guy> hobbsee have you try the samba in kubuntu
[01:51] <Hobbsee> !mplayer
[01:51] <ubotu> [mplayer]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[01:52] <Hobbsee> kubuntu_guy: only accessing an XP machine, not getting the XP to access my kubuntu
[01:55] <_roy> Hobbsee: mplayer doesnt show up in adept
[01:55] <_roy> if it was that easy i wudnt of asked
[01:55] <Hobbsee> _roy: apt-cache search mplayer
[01:55] <Hobbsee> close adept first
[01:55] <Hobbsee> assuming you have multiverse repos enabled
[01:56] <nalioth> _roy: no, you need to search for mplayer (there is no mplayer, it's mplayer-586 or mplayer-powerpc)
[01:56] <Sonny_Wertzik> anyone know if backports is up yet?
[01:56] <_roy> i did search (in adept)
[01:56] <_roy> there was no mplayer
[01:57] <kubuntu_guy> hobbsee k
[01:57] <Sonny_Wertzik> breezy backports that is
[01:57] <kubuntu_guy> thanks
[01:57] <Hobbsee> Sonny_Wertzik: dont know, i'll have a look
[01:57] <_roy> by the way that apt-cache thing, i put it in konsole, but im confused,
[01:57] <Sonny_Wertzik> Hobbsee, ok thanks
[01:57] <Hobbsee> _roy: it should have spit out a whole lot of programs - and yes, it's to go in console
[01:58] <nalioth> _roy: you need to enable universe and multiverse repositories
[01:58] <nalioth> ubotu: tell _roy about repos
[01:58] <_roy> they are enabled
[01:58] <Hobbsee> Sonny_Wertzik: yes, we have backports - not sure how much is in them though
[01:59] <Hobbsee> ie, it's not 404 erroring
[01:59] <Sonny_Wertzik> Hobbsee, ok ill try to get on again... thank you
[01:59] <bimberi> Sonny_Wertzik: it was empty when i last looked
[01:59] <_roy> nalioth: remind me where the sources file is, and ill pastebin it
[01:59] <Hobbsee> _roy: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[01:59] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[01:59] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:59] <nalioth> _roy: /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:00] <Sonny_Wertzik> bimberi, oh ok ...well at least its up and i can check from time to time
[02:00] <Sonny_Wertzik> bimberi, thanks for the info tho
[02:00] <bimberi> Sonny_Wertzik: np :)
[02:00] <_roy> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4594
[02:00] <bimberi> Sonny_Wertzik: anything in particular you're looking for?
[02:02] <Sonny_Wertzik> bimberi, not at the moment ..i had to go elsewhere for msttcore fonts and some other stuff but im looking for stuff from backports heh
[02:03] <bimberi> Sonny_Wertzik: ah :)
[02:03] <Sonny_Wertzik> bimberi, or at least stuff i think would be in backports
[02:04] <Hobbsee> _roy: you're missing the multiverse links
[02:04] <_roy> Hobbsee: line 029
[02:04] <Sonny_Wertzik> bimberi, i was looking for kompmgr but im using xcompmgr instead
[02:04] <Hobbsee> more multiverse repositories than just the backports one
[02:05] <_roy> can u pastebin a full one
[02:05] <_roy> which has all the needed stuff
[02:05] <Hobbsee> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[02:05] <Hobbsee> then add your wine bits, and your breezy backports
[02:06] <Hobbsee> here...
[02:06] <Sonny_Wertzik> i finally have the most beautiful desktop ever hehehe
[02:07] <_roy> im not sure what the backports are
[02:07] <Hobbsee> Sonny_Wertzik: picture?
[02:07] <_roy> if it doesnt come default
[02:07] <_roy> i dunno why i have em
[02:07] <Hobbsee> _roy: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4595
[02:07] <Hobbsee> you do, the repos list has an old version of them
[02:08] <Sonny_Wertzik> Hobbsee, i havent taken one yet hehe...i just got done fixing ever xcompmgr problem i could find cept 1
[02:08] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[02:08] <_roy> ok so all i gotta do is replace it then in adept reenable all those (so it takes out the #)?
[02:09] <Hobbsee> _roy: you can get rid of what's in your current sources list, replace it with the stuff in the last link i sent you, then update via adept, and upgrade
[02:09] <_roy> okie thanks
[02:09] <Sonny_Wertzik> i just took a snapshot
[02:09] <_roy> waiittt upgrade what?
[02:10] <_roy> the button "full upgrade"?
[02:10] <Hobbsee> yeah
[02:10] <Hobbsee> make sure you update first
[02:11] <Hobbsee> Sonny_Wertzik: upload it to imageshack.us
[02:13] <Sonny_Wertzik> Hobbsee, dang its to big
[02:13] <Hobbsee> use gimp/krita and edit it then
[02:13] <_roy> Hobbsee: what does the full upgrade do? I'm in breezy... or is it upgrade to specific programs that have updates?
[02:13] <Hobbsee> yeah, it keeps you in breezy, it just updates your system
[02:13] <Sonny_Wertzik> ok brb
[02:13] <_roy> ok
[02:14] <Ayiden> Alright.. to make sure I do this right I am going to ask *(lol) I just installed breezy... Now How do I "PROPERLY" install the nvidia drivers
[02:14] <nalioth> _roy: mostly security updates
[02:14] <Hobbsee> !nvidia
[02:14] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:15] <Ayiden> ubotu: thanks ^.^
[02:15] <ubotu> Ayiden: de rien
[02:15] <_roy> i never really thought about this (very newb question) but does linux need an anti-virus and/or is ubuntu/kubuntu preinstalled with 1
[02:16] <Ayiden> _roy: I dont know if ubuntu comes with one but its always good to have one.. although linux has VERY few viruses
[02:16] <izaki> apt-get install clamav
[02:16] <izaki> Just in case ;)
[02:16] <Ayiden> _roy you should also have a firewall
[02:17] <Ayiden> clamav and guarddog are both pretty good programs but people have their preference
[02:17] <_roy> are there good ones found on adept?
[02:17] <nalioth> _roy: a firewall is not necessary in a default install
[02:17] <_roy> ehh stupid question ill do a search on adept
[02:18] <nalioth> _roy: kubuntu by default is invisible on the network
[02:18] <_roy> oh alright
[02:18] <Ayiden> robin_: guarddog and clam are both there
[02:18] <Ayiden> really?
[02:18] <_roy> oh I also have another question, when you turn on your computer, after GRUB, it shows the blue kubuntu while lopading modules etc
[02:19] <_roy> i nstalled ubuntu and used synaptic to add kubuntu0desktop
[02:19] <_roy> yet when i turn on it still shows the brown ubuntu
[02:19] <_roy> although loading into KDE like I want to
[02:19] <_roy> how can I change that to show kubuntu?
[02:20] <Hobbsee> !info kubuntu-splash
[02:20] <Hobbsee> hmm
[02:20] <_roy> its not the splash
[02:20] <_roy> thats the login thing
[02:20] <_roy> after login thing
[02:20] <_roy> im talking about
[02:20] <fatejudger> !javadebs
[02:20] <ubotu> it has been said that javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/
[02:20] <_roy> when it says loading modules
[02:20] <_roy> and has all  that text
[02:21] <Hobbsee> oh, that
[02:21] <Sonny_Wertzik> Hobbsee, i resized it...um what was that site to upload it again?
[02:21] <fatejudger> damn, what is up with that server being down?
[02:21] <Hobbsee> Sonny_Wertzik: imageshack.us?
[02:21] <Sonny_Wertzik> Hobbsee, ahh yes thx
[02:21] <fatejudger> does anyone know where I can find a working link to javadebs?
[02:21] <nalioth> fatejudger: that is a working link, or should be
[02:23] <fatejudger> nalioth: try for yourself
[02:23] <fatejudger> nalioth: it's been down all day
[02:23] <fatejudger> why don't they just put java in one of the repos?
[02:24] <fatejudger> I don't understand that kind of reasoning
[02:24] <bimberi> fatejudger: legal issues (as i understand it)
[02:25] <Sonny_Wertzik> Hobbsee, kool site .......... http://img108.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot313jl.png
[02:25] <nalioth> fatejudger: it's illegal to distribute sun java
[02:25] <fatejudger> nalioth: are you serious?
[02:25] <nalioth> fatejudger: there are other java implementations in the repos
[02:25] <fatejudger> nalioth: sure, the free ones
[02:25] <Hobbsee> how the heck did you get that!
[02:25] <fatejudger> nalioth: but those don't work near as well or at all with many java programs
[02:25] <fatejudger> nalioth: java is just plain crappy for Linux
[02:25] <Hobbsee> how did you get it to go all so pretty and black?  what theme is it?
[02:26] <Sonny_Wertzik> Hobbsee, are u talkin to me?
[02:26] <Hobbsee> yes
[02:26] <Hobbsee> PM?
[02:26] <fatejudger> Sonny_Wertzik: wow, beautiful theme
[02:26] <Sonny_Wertzik> fatejudger, thx
[02:27] <nalioth> fatejudger: you can build your own sun java
[02:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fatejudger about java
[02:28] <Hobbsee> Sonny_Wertzik: upload it to kde-look.org?
[02:28] <fatejudger> nalioth: ugh, build my own?
[02:28] <nalioth> fatejudger: it's quite simple, if you have a little console knowledge
[02:28] <fatejudger> nalioth: it's not like it'll even run better since it's precompiled to begin with
[02:31] <c0p> can someone name a good,stable,simple ftp daemon?
[02:31] <fatejudger> c0p: konqueror
[02:31] <c0p> daemon
[02:31] <c0p> for my server
[02:31] <fatejudger> c0p: oh sorry, wasn't paying attention
[02:31] <fatejudger> c0p: proftpd
[02:31] <c0p> its ok
[02:32] <c0p> proftpd? i think i had that installed on my laptop
[02:32] <c0p> thanks
[02:32] <fatejudger> c0p: np
[02:33] <fatejudger> nalioth: ever since I did that key erase thing in apt it's been giving this error that it can't stat the cdrom drive
[02:33] <fatejudger> nalioth: you know, the Kubuntu CD
[02:34] <fatejudger> nalioth: any fix?
[02:36] <fatejudger> nalioth: wow, this java packaging thing is quite easy
[02:38] <nalioth> fatejudger: comment out the cdrom line in the sources.list
[02:38] <kubuntu_guy> Im going to install ubuntu,I have 2 physiacl drive and wants to use lvm how can I do it 
[02:38] <nalioth> kubuntu_guy: it will give you the option to use lvm
[02:39] <kubuntu_guy> nalioth I already make a partition with my swap and /boot and the remaning will be for lvm
[02:39] <nalioth> kubuntu_guy: cool
[02:39] <kubuntu_guy> nalioth what should I do first? format the free space to raid or lvm
[02:40] <nalioth> kubuntu_guy: lvm may be easier
[02:40] <tgwj> how do I automatically start an application on KDE startup ?
[02:41] <nalioth> tgwj: the autostart folder
[02:41] <tgwj> where is it ?
[02:41] <kubuntu_guy> nalioth Im on the free space of my first disk ,im on the partition setting what should I choose for optio Use as?
[02:42] <fatejudger> nalioth: that cdrom line worked before though
[02:42] <fatejudger> nalioth: and was faster than downloading the packages again
[02:42] <nalioth> kubuntu_guy: i'm not knowledgable of either raid or lvm
[02:43] <nalioth> fatejudger: when you clear your gpg keys, you make apt forget the cdrom was 'cleared'
[02:43] <kubuntu_guy> so you mean much better to use automatic partition?
[02:43] <crimson> hello, can you help me with the installation of ATI?
[02:43] <crimson> i follow the instructions and i get this---http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/431173
[02:44] <crimson> in X.org
[02:44] <tgwj> nalioth: was the autostart folder a joke referring to M$ win ? if not can you tell me where it is ?
[02:45] <fatejudger> nalioth: well how do I make it "unforget"?
[02:45] <nalioth> i had one on my desktop when i had kubuntu
[02:45] <nalioth> fatejudger: put the cdrom in the machine and run "apt-cdrom"
[02:45] <tgwj> hmmm. i don't.
[02:45] <fatejudger> tgwj: ~/.kde/share/autostart
[02:46] <fatejudger> tgwj: it's hidden
[02:46] <tgwj> fatejudger: put .desktop files in there ?
[02:46] <fatejudger> tgwj: you can if you want
[02:47] <tgwj> shell scripts wil do too ?
[02:47] <tgwj> it's ~/.kde/Autostart
[02:47] <Sonny_Wertzik> fatejudger, did u get moodin to work?
[02:48] <fatejudger> nalioth: thanks
[02:48] <fatejudger> Sonny_Wertzik: no, I never did
[02:48] <fatejudger> Sonny_Wertzik: that was a bad package though
[02:48] <fatejudger> Sonny_Wertzik: you have to get a deb
[02:48] <Sonny_Wertzik> i did finally
[02:48] <fatejudger> the deb package?
[02:48] <Sonny_Wertzik> do you have amd64?
[02:49] <fatejudger> Sonny_Wertzik: no
[02:49] <Sonny_Wertzik> fatejudger, i compiled one myself for amd64
[02:49] <fatejudger> Sonny_Wertzik: I just got the source, let me see if I can get it to work
[02:50] <Sonny_Wertzik> fate i cant even remember what i did to get it to work hehehe
[02:51] <Sonny_Wertzik> fatejudger, brb im going to have a smoke
[02:51] <fatejudger> Sonny_Wertzik: k
[02:51] <fatejudger> Sonny_Wertzik: I need to get the X dev files
[02:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fatejudger about xincludes
[02:54] <Sonny_Wertzik> fatejudger, ahhh
[02:54] <fatejudger> nalioth: thanks
[02:54] <nalioth> wget is great!
[02:54] <nalioth> i'm fixin to write a wget how-to on my blog
[02:54] <Sonny_Wertzik> fatejudger, moodin actually does work tho
[02:57] <fatejudger> nalioth: lol
[02:58] <fatejudger> wget is alright I guess
[02:58] <fatejudger> too much writing for me
[02:58] <fatejudger> I like the clickety click of the mouse
[02:58] <nalioth> fatejudger: scripting + wget = great fun
[03:00] <fatejudger> Sonny_Wertzik: damn, someone needs to build a package for moodin
[03:00] <fatejudger> Sonny_Wertzik: it depends on so many packages
[03:01] <fatejudger> Sonny_Wertzik: it needs the KDE headers, the X headers, and the QT headers
[03:01] <fatejudger> where do I get the KDE headers btw?
[03:01] <Sonny_Wertzik> fatejudger, heh...i do alot of compiling so im not sure how many deps there are...i have most installed from my install
[03:01] <chaoticgeek> I just found out that my freinds hard drive in her laptop just died
[03:02] <chaoticgeek> she is running a live cd for now until she gets it fixed
[03:02] <chaoticgeek> of linux
[03:02] <fatejudger> chaoticgeek: that's nice
[03:04] <Sonny_Wertzik> fate im not sure what the name of the KDE headers are sorry
[03:05] <Sonny_Wertzik> can anyone tell him what they are?
[03:05] <fatejudger> I found them
[03:05] <Sonny_Wertzik> oh kool
[03:06] <Sonny_Wertzik> brb 1 more smoke
[03:11] <Sonny_Wertzik> ok hehe...i should be studying
[03:11] <nalioth> kde-devel
[03:11] <nalioth> Flixor: your script is an invitation to the ban hammer
[03:12] <Flixor> ehm sorry nalioth, ?? 
[03:13] <nalioth> Flixor: please keep this >>> 20:05  * Flixor is listening to  - SALSASTREAM - Best Salsa Collection now on S K Y . F M! - impacto crea - lo que trae impacto   in -offtopic, please
[03:14] <Flixor> oeps sorry nalioth 
[03:14] <Sonny_Wertzik> is there a plugin for amarok so you can listen to shoucast?
[03:14] <fatejudger> Sonny_Wertzik: it's compiling now
[03:14] <Flixor> i will not do it again nalioth, but forgive me my need to share information especialy music :)
[03:14] <Sonny_Wertzik> kool ...gl
[03:14] <Flixor> anyway i dont do it again 
[03:14] <nalioth> Flixor: share the love in -offtopic, please
[03:14] <pc22> how do i display other font in my desktop ie hebrew?
[03:15] <Flixor> i will nalioth 
[03:15] <fatejudger> I don't think hebrew works, does it?
[03:15] <fatejudger> I wouldn't know though
[03:17] <fatejudger> Sonny_Wertzik: brb, testing
[03:20] <Sonny_Wertzik> bbl guys take care
[03:20] <chaoticgeek> bye
[03:22] <fatejudger> is there a way to change the login screen?
[03:28] <Sophistication> kde-look.org
[03:29] <Sophistication> fatejudger, http://kde-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=down&page=0 take your pick
[03:38] <fatejudger> what does Desktop Screenshot and Window Screenshot do?
[03:38] <fatejudger> like, does it run a program?
[03:38] <fatejudger> Sophistication: that's not the login screen?
[03:39] <fatejudger> Sophistication: I can't find the section for login screens, which is why I asked
[03:39] <Sophistication> fatejudger, http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=35&PHPSESSID=c2402f112aa73b300f0d5a8af0b35a30
[03:40] <Sophistication> I'm guessing you're meaning splash screens
[03:40] <fatejudger> no
[03:40] <fatejudger> Sophistication: I just got the moodin splash screen
[03:40] <fatejudger> Sophistication: I need the login screen to match
[03:42] <Sophistication> fatejudger, good luck, you're at the right place now to look
[03:42] <fatejudger> ok
[03:43] <fatejudger> I still can't figure out what the Desktop Screenshot and Window Screenshot run exactly
[03:43] <JonasNZ> im having problems with my audio, just done a clean install on a brandnew box, and system sounds work fine but i cant hear anything i play in amarok or kscd
[03:43] <Sophistication> JonasNZ, edit the default sound engine from oss to alsa
[03:46] <JonasNZ> Sophistication: hmm i did the exact opposite, told amarok to use oss and it works
[03:46] <Sophistication> JonasNZ, hey their you go
[03:46] <Sophistication> JonasNZ, I knew it was one of them :)
[03:46] <fatejudger> JonasNZ: you should use OSS
[03:46] <fatejudger> *shouldn't
[03:47] <JonasNZ> fatejudger: exactly :D
[03:47] <fatejudger> you won't be able to hear anything else why  you're playing music
[03:47] <Sophistication> O no!
[03:47] <fatejudger> and, it takes a few seconds to release the sound device
[03:47] <fatejudger> so if you stop your music, it might take you a few seconds to start up something else with sound
[03:47] <fatejudger> it's very annoying
[03:48] <JonasNZ> fatejudger: so how do i find out whats wrong with alsa?
[03:49] <fatejudger> JonasNZ: dunno
[03:49] <fatejudger> JonasNZ: you haven't given me much to go on
[03:49] <JonasNZ> ok wtf? using alsamixer i can still mute the sound even though im playing throgh oss
[03:49] <fatejudger> JonasNZ: it all has to go through alsa at some point
[03:50] <JonasNZ> oh ok :D
[03:50] <fatejudger> how do I select which Java package to use?
[03:53] <JonasNZ> fatejudger: hmm alsa gives me a gstreamer error when i try to play using alsa as the output method for gstreamer
[03:53] <Swaty> hi, themes good?
[03:54] <fatejudger> JonasNZ: you can try using xine
[03:54] <fatejudger> JonasNZ: that sucks
[03:55] <JonasNZ> fatejudger: does indeed
[03:55] <Sophistication> you could always use beep or xmms
[03:55] <Sophistication> both are smaller than xine I belive
[03:57] <JonasNZ> fatejudger: playing from amarok using amarok-xine works fine
[03:58] <JonasNZ> it seems my alsasink is broken
[04:00] <fatejudger> JonasNZ: gstreamer is really messed up
[04:00] <fatejudger> JonasNZ: I can't get it working for at least 1 thing on both my laptop and my desktop
[04:00] <brodel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89873
[04:00] <brodel> How can I mount my smb share as suggested in that post?
[04:14] <pc22> would anyone know where i can get transcription/dictation apps?
[04:25] <Ayiden> Okay, I am really having trouble with nvidia.. I MUST be doing something wrong. I have tried installing nvidia both ways... first with the nvidia-glx package and then with thedrivers from the nvidia site... each time everything works fine.. xorg is changed.. dri is commented out and so is GLcore and nvidia is put in the place of nv
[04:25] <Ayiden> then I type kdm... it loads the nvidia screen and then poof.. nothing back to the console
[04:25] <Ayiden> any idea's?
[04:26] <Ayiden> I have a backup or xorg and thats how im back here in #kubuntu
[04:27] <Ayiden> when installing the ubuntu package nvidia-glx thats all I do right? apt-get nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings
[04:27] <Ayiden> ?
[04:32] <JagoDragon> is any one there
[04:32] <wasp_ems> hi..does anyone know where i can download dc++ from?
[04:33] <JagoDragon> is it in the apt program
[04:33] <JagoDragon> if not do you have universe selected
[04:34] <nalioth> !info dcgui
[04:34] <ubotu> dcgui: (Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing)), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.80-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 445 kB, Installed size: 1352 kB
[04:34] <nalioth> wasp_ems: universe
[04:34] <wasp_ems> thanx
[04:37] <JagoDragon> #ubuntu
[04:59] <richard> Has the Admin mode been fixed in breezy?
[05:00] <richard> I had wifi connection problems (enabling and disabling) menu selections. .. .
[05:18] <richard> Anyone know if the wifi function (enable /disable) in Admin mode works? Or does it still freeze up. It seems every Distro I've downloaded of Kubuntu has had this Wifi flaw for my system. . . .
[05:38] <glitch> Hi richard. I've seen that function work in ubuntu
[05:38] <glitch> some wifi cards use different drivers
[05:38] <glitch> and don't play nice with the normal scritps
[05:39] <glitch> does your card work with other distros?
[05:40] <DrSpin> does anyone else have a problem when they insert a USB device -- I get about 10 Konqueror windows opening all at once
[05:40] <DrSpin> :S
[06:05] <blanky> how can I make it so it makes me double click instead of single click
[06:14] <_roy> Hey i isntalled apache2 on kubuntu i also installed the docs but cant find where they were placed
[06:16] <_roy> nvm found em
[07:00] <kdude> hello!
[07:01] <kdude> can somebody point me to an /etc/profile file please.. I messed up mine.. I did echo ****  > /etc/profile/ and not >> /etc/profile/
[07:02] <bimberi> kdude: i'll pastebin mine ...
[07:03] <kdude> cool.. thanks.
[07:03] <kdude> !pastebin
[07:03] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:03] <bimberi> kdude: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4612
[07:05] <kdude> that's it? how come it's soo short, I thought it was more than that.
[07:06] <bimberi> kdude: that's it - unchanged from a breezy install - perhaps someone else can confirm if you're in doubt
[07:06] <sampan> bimberi's is identical to mine
[07:07] <sampan> default i'd assume
[07:08] <kdude> thanks bimberi: will paste it..
[07:08] <bimberi> kdude: np :)
[07:08] <kdude> gnight!
[07:09] <bimberi> nn
[07:12] <smonkey> I've been looking for the OpenGL man pages for half an hour, Can any one point me in the right direction?
[07:13] <Lathiat> smonkey: google for nehe
[07:14] <Lathiat> smonkey: its a site with a whole bunch of opengl tutorials starting from basics up to advanced including workgin example code for linux
[07:14] <Lathiat> smonkey: tis pretty good
[07:15] <smonkey> Lathiat: I really need downloadable documentation. I'm on diap up, and my phone line has been acting strange lately. I woud imagine that ubuntu has a package of the man pages somewhere. I just can't find it.
[07:15] <smonkey> but thanks
[07:15] <smonkey> for the tip.
[07:15] <Lathiat> smonkey: i think you can download them
[07:16] <Lathiat> smonkey: at least some of them, perhaps even just getting the source would be a good start
[07:16] <Lathiat> smonkey: for me, i work best from examples
[07:16] <smonkey> Lathiat: Thanks, I'll check it out. 
[07:17] <Lathiat> smonkey: manpages-dev has some general development stuff
[07:17] <Lathiat> smonkey: dont think we package any like tutorials on opengl
[07:18] <Lathiat> might.. dig around in adept
[07:22] <smonkey> Lathiat: If I put the name of one of the manpages into packages.ubuntu.com I should get an answer right?
[07:22] <Lathiat> smonkey: uh yeh into the search package contents bit
[07:56] <darksoul> !sources
[07:56] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:59] <darksoul> #join ubuntu
[08:34] <sampan> if i want to schedule a task in kcron but want the output of the task put into a file instead of mailed to me -- do i use: command.here >> file.name ?  (sorry newb question)
[09:10] <KaoticEvil> hey everyone  :)
[09:16] <chakie_work> hi KaoticEvil 
[09:16] <aftertaf> hey back ;)
[09:32] <Wimpie>  About every second time I shutdown 5.1 ubuntu the root FS is not unmounted cleanly with a FScheck as a consequence. Any Ideas ?
[09:40] <aftertaf> bizarre Wimpie , ask in #ubuntu
[09:40] <aftertaf> y a pas grump and monde laz
[09:40] <aftertaf> loooool
[09:41] <aftertaf> y a pas grand monde la
[09:41] <aftertaf> wtf happened with my kb? :)
[10:09] <martinjh99> Morning - Anyone here expert in creating KDM themes??
[10:49] <CellarDoor> hello 
[10:49] <CellarDoor> I have an annoying problem
[10:49] <CellarDoor> my menu editor is not saving any changes I make
[10:52] <CellarDoor> and If I add the lines KDE tells me to add to my xorg config for translucency eyecandy... my system doesn't boot up
[10:54] <CellarDoor> !eyecandy
[10:54] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, CellarDoor
[10:54] <CellarDoor> !translucency
[10:54] <ubotu> CellarDoor: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:54] <CellarDoor> argh
[10:55] <Tm_T> ubotu: what's up
[10:55] <ubotu> everything is okay thanks
[10:55] <LeeJunFan> CellarDoor: do you have glx working?
[10:55] <Tm_T> :)
[10:55] <CellarDoor> LeeJunFan: yes
[10:55] <LeeJunFan> CellarDoor: what kind of gfx card?
[10:55] <CellarDoor> nvidia
[10:55] <CellarDoor> fx5200
[10:56] <LeeJunFan> CellarDoor: so much for the easy answers :)
[10:56] <CellarDoor> translucency worked as well as it does in its current state on hoary... but breezy wont boot when I try to get it going
[10:57] <LeeJunFan> CellarDoor: have you checked /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/kdm for clues yet?
[10:57] <CellarDoor> nope
[10:58] <LeeJunFan> CellarDoor: I've got an ATI card and the drivers for ati don't work well with translucency, or at least they didn't last time I tried, so I don't know what the problem could be since I haven't tried it with breezy.
[10:59] <LeeJunFan> CellarDoor: as for your menu problems some permissions may have gotten hosed try 'sudo chown -R /home/[username] ' where [username]  is the user you log into your system as.
[10:59] <CellarDoor> ok
[11:01] <CellarDoor> chown: too few arguments
[11:01] <LeeJunFan> CellarDoor: and if you have before don't run any kde apps with sudo, use kdesu instead. using sudo keeps your environment variable like paths and username, so when you sudo to become root it takes over some kde files as root, then your regular user can't use them.
[11:01] <LeeJunFan> CellarDoor: sorry - it's early.
[11:01] <LeeJunFan> sudo chown -R [username]  /home/[username] 
[11:01] <CellarDoor> ah
[11:02] <CellarDoor> gotcha
[11:02] <LeeJunFan> gotta step out for a min.
[11:02] <CellarDoor> ok
[11:08] <CellarDoor> bbs
[11:14] <blackflag> hello all :-)
[11:15] <blackflag> can someone tell me what is the best program to create flyers?
[11:17] <blackflag> may be something like corel
[11:22] <doodz> C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[11:22] <doodz> that means i dont have a c compiler installed ?
[11:22] <doodz> by defailt kubuntu has nothing installed to compile hey ?
[11:22] <doodz> i'm trying to install an ftp client
[11:25] <aftertaf> doodz:  exact
[11:25] <aftertaf> s!be
[11:25] <aftertaf> erf
[11:25] <aftertaf> !be
[11:25] <ubotu> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:25] <aftertaf> doodz:  ^^^^^^^ do that
[11:27] <doodz> thanks so much
[11:27] <doodz> :)
[11:28] <doodz> i just installed kubuntu ealier
[11:31] <sbongile> Arrgh! This is gonna take me a month of Sundays. Now I'm in dependancy hell.
[11:32] <sbongile> oops wrong channel!
[11:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[11:32] <sbongile> Anyone here managed to install pygame 1.7 on Kubuntu - by any chance?
[11:33] <doodz> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[11:33] <chi> hii, i have an issue w/ sane. calling scanimage will give me the following: *** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: 0x1003d660 ***. and is not running. just for the fun of it, i installed ubuntu on another partition, where scanimage/sane is working fine. any ideas what might cause this problem?
[11:34] <chi> doodz: install xlibs-dev
[11:34] <aftertaf> doodz:  xservver dev files needed
[11:35] <aftertaf> ^^there u go
[11:36] <doodz> ubuntu comes with nothing installed hey
[11:36] <doodz> its like bare os
[11:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> doodz: it comes with no developement packages
[11:37] <doodz> arh
[11:39] <bimberi> ubuntu is 1 CD, Debian is 2 DVDs.  Something had to go :)
[11:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> bimberi: to use the same media comparison - ubuntu is 1 cd, Debian is 14 ;)
[11:40] <bimberi> Kamping_Kaiser: :)
[11:40] <doodz> i got a dvd version, 2.8gb
[11:41] <doodz> so all development files would be on that hey..
[11:41] <LeeJunFan> yeha, but to be fair to get all the apps you want debian is 0 dowload, on ubuntu - who knows.
[11:41] <doodz> hehe
[11:41] <LeeJunFan> but then on the other hand all the apps you want from debian will be as old as the distro itself.
[11:55] <l3m> the kde man viewer doesn't work. i can't seem to find any man pages...help!
[11:56] <bimberi> l3m: use the terminal
[11:59] <l3m> bimberi: but konqueror got such a nice manpage viewer.. i used it often in debian, i'd like to use it in kubuntu too
[12:00] <bimberi> l3m: i'm not familiar with it sorry
[12:00] <KaoticEvil> l3m: it may have been removed... kubuntu changed konqi around a lot
[12:01] <gsuveg> 3.5rc1 works good ?
[12:01] <gsuveg> alsa dont core dump?
[12:01] <l3m> KaoticEvil: no, the manpage viewer ist still there, it just gives me an error message that it can't find the man pages
[12:02] <l3m> KaoticEvil: try "man: vim" in konqui
[12:02] <l3m> gsuveg: i don't think anyone worked on arts since kde 3.1 or so ;(
[12:03] <KaoticEvil> l3m: ok, one second
[12:03] <KaoticEvil> gsuveg: it works fine for me
[12:03] <gsuveg> l3m: not good, im stand in 3.4
[12:03] <gsuveg> hmm.
[12:04] <KaoticEvil> had to add the sources ;) :P
[12:04] <gsuveg> KaoticEvil: what is the download size?
[12:04] <KaoticEvil> gsuveg: not sure off the top of my head..
[12:04] <l3m> i use 3.5 too.. works nicely
[12:04] <KaoticEvil> approx 56MB tho, iirs
[12:04] <KaoticEvil> iirc*
[12:04] <l3m> finally i get imap filtering in kmail
[12:05] <KaoticEvil> l3m: man:/wim works for me..
[12:05] <gsuveg> KaoticEvil: thanks
[12:05] <KaoticEvil> gsuveg: np
[12:05] <KaoticEvil> vim*
[12:05] <gsuveg> can i downgrade if not ok ?
[12:05] <KaoticEvil> gsuveg: no clue on that..
[12:05] <l3m> aaah
[12:05] <l3m> man:/ 
[12:05] <l3m> lol 
[12:05] <KaoticEvil> afaik, no, you cant
[12:05] <l3m> stupid me
[12:05] <KaoticEvil> lol l3m 
[12:06] <KaoticEvil> we all do it ;)
[12:06] <gsuveg> KaoticEvil: hmm?
[12:06] <KaoticEvil> wow, that *is* nice l3m .... thanks :D
[12:06] <KaoticEvil> gsuveg: afaik, you cant..
[12:06] <gsuveg> why ?
[12:06] <KaoticEvil> gsuveg: i dont know.. you may be able to...
[12:06] <KaoticEvil> i honestly dont know
[12:07] <KaoticEvil> l3m: have you tried Konqi's MC view mode?
[12:07] <gsuveg> KaoticEvil: remove the 3.5rc1 from apt and newly install kde ?
[12:07] <KaoticEvil> gsuveg: possibly.. ive not tried it.. it works for me :)
[12:08] <gsuveg> KaoticEvil: yesterday im see the 3.5rc1 live cd, and this isnt sound to bad 
[12:08] <KaoticEvil> gsuveg: you may want to try that before upgrading...
[12:08] <KaoticEvil> but remember, rc1 *is* beta still..
[12:09] <KaoticEvil> oh, gsuveg ... one thing i *have*noticed...
[12:09] <KaoticEvil> for me, not anyone else i know of, just me..
[12:09] <KaoticEvil> FTP access is *completely* broken
[12:09] <gsuveg> KaoticEvil: i know, thats is beta
[12:10] <KaoticEvil> l3m: try this from the run box: konqueror --profile midnightcommander
[12:11] <KaoticEvil> gsuveg: any time you play with "cutting edge" software, you stand chance of getting cut...
[12:11] <KaoticEvil> ok, sleep time for me.. later all :)
[12:12] <gsuveg> Kao|Sleep: im not newbie in open source world ;)
[12:14] <dipnlik> hi all. all of a sudden my Xorg fonts became smaller. Where can I change them, generally speaking? (I mean, not in KDE, but in Xorg itself)
[12:20] <icewt> dipnlik: have you changed something in xorg.conf ?
[12:22] <l3m> dipnlik: yeah kde somethings screws up DPI
[12:22] <l3m> dipnlik: you can edit kdmrc
[12:24] <l3m> dipnlik: search "ServerLocalArgs" and add -dpi 75x75 ( or 100x100 or what you want
[12:24] <dipnlik> icewt and l3m , I don't remember messing up with anything, but I'll lookup these two files
[12:25] <mth`MAW> hi all
[12:25] <l3m> http://process-of-elimination.net/wiki/Control_Font_DPI_in_X
[12:25] <l3m> dipnlik http://process-of-elimination.net/wiki/Control_Font_DPI_in_X
[12:25] <l3m> dipnlik: no kdm sometimes does it for itself ;/
[12:26] <l3m> the link is not kubuntu specific so files may be at a different location
[12:27] <dipnlik> l3m: thanks a lot, will look there!
[12:32] <dipnlik> l3m: do you recommend using a dpi number on kdmrc or should I use a variable?
[12:33] <dipnlik> l3m: and if I use a variable, how should I do it to have a default for all users?
[12:34] <Cellar|away> my system is behaving strangely
[12:35] <l3m> dipnlik: well i just fixed it at a size which looked nice
[12:35] <l3m> dipnlik: dunno if that's the right way
[12:35] <l3m> dipnlik: but if you add the line in kdmrc it will be the same for all users
[12:35] <dipnlik> l3m: ok, thanks
[12:36] <CellarDoor> first it was just my menu editor not chaning things when I save changes to it... then my trashcan dissappeared after a reboot... now my hdd isn't showing up my media... argh !
[12:36] <CellarDoor> and I'm not making sense !
[12:36] <l3m> CellarDoor: check the harddisk? check the ram?
[12:36] <l3m> CellarDoor: check the file system?
[12:37] <dipnlik> l3m: worked fine, thank you thank you :)
[12:37] <CellarDoor> uh... whats the best way of doing those thing ?
[12:38] <CellarDoor> *things ?
[12:39] <l3m> dipnlik: np ;)
[12:39] <l3m> CellarDoor: ram: memtest ( kubuntu should have made a grub entry for memtest )
[12:39] <l3m> CellarDoor: and boot in singleuser mode and fsck the hds
[12:39] <CellarDoor> argh
[12:41] <CellarDoor> Such advice assumes I have an idea of what youre talking about ;)
[12:42] <CellarDoor> brb
[12:52] <CellarDoor> ok... I think I might be getting there
[12:55] <CellarDoor> the other night I couldn't boot and got into my system via a live ubuntu CD. I did this by typing in a terminal "sudo su" then "mkdir /mnt/temp" then "mount /dev/hda1/ /mnt/temp" and fixed my xorg.conf and rebooted... now... I'm wondering if someone can tell me if this is why "Storage Media" isn't showing my hard drive ? And why Menu Editor wont save any changes I make ? How do I unhose this ?
[12:56] <CellarDoor> I'm a n00b learning stuff here
[12:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> CellarDoor: did you change anything in your home directory when you mounted it into /mnt/tmp?
[12:57] <CellarDoor> Not that I can think of
[12:58] <icewt> hmm.. i can't get menu editor to save the changes either
[12:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> m. well try `sudo chown -R yourname.yourname /home/yourname` and  see if it fixes anything
[01:00] <CellarDoor> doesn't seem to
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> *shrug*
[01:02] <stefan> hi everyone
[01:02] <CellarDoor> hi
[01:02] <stefan> i am back to kubuntu
[01:02] <stefan> and .. ive got a question :/
[01:02] <CellarDoor> should I mount hda1 in "media" ? I'm thinking that might fix it ?
[01:02] <stefan> i need to install Java with Firefox... but it seems java is already installed... 
[01:03] <stefan> but firefox cant find it
[01:03] <stefan> and i cant find the java/plugins folder
[01:03] <CellarDoor> mmm I have that same issue as well
[01:03] <stefan> to make this essential link to firefox
[01:04] <stefan> and the repositories are very small
[01:04] <stefan> i wanted to have FireFox 1.5 RC 2
[01:04] <stefan> but there's only 1.07
[01:04] <CellarDoor> yeah
[01:04] <CellarDoor> you have to get 1.5 RC2 from the website
[01:04] <stefan> and then ?
[01:04] <stefan> i cant compile
[01:05] <stefan> as usual
[01:05] <CellarDoor> ah
[01:05] <stefan> :(
[01:05] <stefan> there's an error
[01:05] <CellarDoor> I haven't even bothered ;)
[01:05] <stefan> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:05] <stefan> while Configuring
[01:05] <CellarDoor> too much messing about for me
[01:05] <stefan> i don't understand, because gcc is installed
[01:06] <stefan> hm, i have to deal with it later
[01:06] <stefan> but maybe someone could give me a repository list
[01:07] <CellarDoor> Kamping_Kaiser: could you tell me how to mount my hard drive so it appears in "media" again when I click on "storage media" in the "System" thingy ?
[01:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> CellarDoor: no, i don't know
[01:08] <CellarDoor> I think its cause its attached to my temp dir
[01:08] <CellarDoor> :P
[01:08] <CellarDoor> nevermind, thanks anyway
[01:08] <CellarDoor> I'll fiddle about
[01:09] <stefan> lol, i installed Kynaptic  from package.. where is it now ?
[01:09] <stefan> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:09] <stefan> kynaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5.so.3.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:09] <stefan> it sucks
[01:09] <stefan> :(
[01:10] <stefan> i dont wanna deal with dependencies anymore
[01:10] <CellarDoor> I'm not using kynaptic, I like Adept better
[01:10] <stefan> but there so few stuff
[01:10] <CellarDoor> installing kynaptic wont make any difference to that
[01:10] <stefan> adept doesnt look back
[01:10] <stefan> yeah i know, but at least i used kynaptic before
[01:11] <CellarDoor> you need to add new repositories
[01:11] <stefan> i dont know any
[01:11] <CellarDoor> !repositories
[01:11] <ubotu> repositories is, like, totally, How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[01:11] <stefan> hm i know how to add
[01:11] <CellarDoor> !sources
[01:11] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:11] <stefan> yay
[01:11] <CellarDoor> :P
[01:12] <stefan> but arent they already in the list ?
[01:12] <CellarDoor> yeah
[01:12] <stefan> lol
[01:12] <CellarDoor> but you can add more
[01:13] <stefan> but that is neat
[01:13] <stefan> the sources list generator
[01:16] <CellarDoor> howdy aseigo 
[01:17] <aseigo> hey
[01:17] <CellarDoor> whats happening
[01:20] <aseigo> not much. someearly morning hacking
[01:20] <CellarDoor> cool
[01:21] <monad_> hi... i'm a kubuntu newbie, just installed it on my professor's machine and intuitively trying to get along. normally, i'm a gentoo user, so my question concerns operating the system: is there some tool like emerge or apt-get on kubuntu?
[01:21] <CellarDoor> apt-get
[01:22] <CellarDoor> being debian based and all
[01:22] <monad_> ok... i just can't get used to graphical admin tools
[01:23] <CellarDoor> as a n00b I'd like to know where hda1 should be mounted ?
[01:23] <monad_> another question: while installing, the partitioning tables that are there by default are really strange. is there a way to override the installer and use something like fdisk?
[01:24] <Kamping_Kaise1> you can chose not to use the default install, but not fdisc as suck
[01:24] <Kamping_Kaise1> *such
[01:25] <bimberi> monad_: you have the option to "Edit the Partition Table manually" (iirc) during the install
[01:25] <CellarDoor> Kamping_Kaise1: please, where is hda1 normally mounted in breezy ?
[01:25] <monad_> bimberi: seems like i have to do it again.
[01:25] <Kamping_Kaise1> CellarDoor: that depends what's there, usualy it's not mounted as 'hda' it's mounted as 'hda#' where # is a number
[01:26] <Kamping_Kaise1> unless it's a cdrom drive
[01:26] <CellarDoor> yes, its hda1
[01:26] <bimberi> CellarDoor: mine (a windows partition) mounts to /media/hda1
[01:26] <CellarDoor> ah rite
[01:26] <CellarDoor> thanks bimberi 
[01:26] <bimberi> CellarDoor: np :)
[01:29] <CellarDoor> according to mtab /dev/hda1 is mounted on /
[01:29] <CellarDoor> is that right ?
[01:30] <oliTur> hi, does anybody have succeed installing freenx on kubunti greezy ?
[01:30] <CellarDoor> I'm trying to get my hard drive to re-appear when I go System > Storage Media on the panel
[01:31] <CellarDoor> anyways gtg...
[01:32] <CellarDoor> cyas
[01:49] <LeeJunFan> So I see there's new KDE RC1 packages recently uploaded to Riddell's space, anyone tried them yet? Better to dist-upgrade or just upgrade and leave stuff kept back?
[01:49] <Riddell> LeeJunFan: dist-upgrade
[01:50] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: that's what I thought, thanks.
[01:51] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: and thanks for all your work too :)
[02:00] <gsuveg> re
[02:16] <ismael> hola
[02:24] <tiger> hello
[02:25] <raphink> hi tiger 
[02:25] <tiger> hi raphink
[02:26] <raphink> :)
[02:27] <gsuveg> anybody use skype from dpkg ?
[02:29] <McScruff> Hi, im haveing problems with my wifi security
[02:29] <dipnlik> gsuveg: got mine using this line on sources.list
[02:29] <dipnlik> deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas all
[02:29] <McScruff> when i have no wep it connects fine, but soon as i add a wep key it wont connect
[02:31] <tiger> I have upgraded to KDE 3.5 RC1 in that hope that KDE will accept my root password in the control center but nothing changed :(
[02:31] <gsuveg> dipnlik: for u works the arts+skype ?
[02:31] <tiger> Have got someone got one idea
[02:31] <gsuveg> dipnlik: you know where is the gpg key for this server ?
[02:32] <martinjh99> Can anyone give me a hand with a KDM theme problem..?
[02:32] <martinjh99> I'm trying to create one and I can't make the user list any bigger than one line...
[02:34] <dipnlik> gsuveg: detailed info on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[02:34] <gsuveg> dipnlik: thanks
[02:34] <raphink> unless you turn your root account on, it's not activated by default on ubuntu
[02:34] <raphink> whether you use kde 3.5 won't change anything tiger 
[02:34] <tiger> aha thanx
[02:35] <raphink> tiger: ubuntu uses sudo by default, so it's your USER passwd that you ahve to use
[02:35] <tiger> how can i activate it??
[02:35] <raphink> not the root one
[02:35] <raphink> tiger: why do you need to activate it?
[02:36] <tiger> one moment please my pizza has arrived:)
[02:38] <gsuveg> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/breezy-extras/skype_1.2.0.18-1ubuntu0_i386.deb  403 Forbidden
[02:38] <gsuveg> hmm .(
[02:39] <gsuveg> this skype works with artsdsp ?
[02:41] <nalioth> gsuveg: seveas is in #ubuntu right now, ask him to open it up
[02:41] <gsuveg> nalioth: thanks
[02:43] <ltiger_hun> raphink: so I must use my normal user password to acces ex. Adept?
[02:44] <ltiger_hun> sory for my sili questions but I have used UHU Linux and it is a lot easier but I hated it...
[02:46] <nalioth> ltiger_hun: ubuntu has no root account enabled. you have superuser priveleges using kdesu and your user password
[02:46] <nalioth> !kdesu
[02:46] <ubotu> Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.
[02:47] <nalioth> ltiger_hun: read what ubotu says, please
[02:47] <ltiger_hun> okay thanks
[02:53] <Riddell> gsuveg: awooga
[02:54] <gsuveg> Riddell: pardon?
[02:54] <Riddell> gsuveg: I'm pleased that you are happy
[02:54] <Riddell> means I got rid of the major problems
[02:55] <gsuveg> Riddell: whats the problem?
[02:55] <Riddell> gsuveg: well if you're pleased, none
[03:08] <_judith> how do I install the shockwave player on Kubuntu?
[03:09] <nalioth> _judith: shockwave doesnt work on linux, only flash
[03:09] <nalioth> !flash
[03:09] <ubotu> methinks flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:14] <_judith> nalioth: how do I do it then? Any ideas?
[03:14] <nalioth> _judith: shockwave?
[03:16] <_judith> nalioth: yeas
[03:16] <_judith> yes
[03:17] <nalioth> _judith: if you find shockwave to be necessary, you can run windows in linux using qemu or vmware (first is f/oss, vmware is commercial)
[03:22] <ganymed> hi
[03:22] <gsuveg> nalioth: vmware player!
[03:23] <nalioth> gsuveg: new commercial crapware
[03:24] <gsuveg> nalioth: the player isnt!
[03:24] <nalioth> gsuveg: is it open source?
[03:25] <gsuveg> its free
[03:26] <nalioth> gsuveg: but not open source
[03:26] <gsuveg> yes
[03:29] <_judith> when I plug in my usb camera, I get a msg in Konqueror saying "error: could not open media:/sda1" any ideas?
[03:31] <Riddell> _judith: try camera:/
[03:32] <_judith> ok
[03:33] <nalioth> gsuveg: it was brought to our attention that vmware has released a free version
[03:34] <nalioth> bah fingers
[03:35] <gsuveg> nalioth: yes.
[03:35] <gsuveg> nalioth: you know its only a player
[03:35] <gsuveg> and it can 'play' a windows as virtual machine
[03:35] <nalioth> gsuveg: i was trying to tell _judith and am slow
[03:36] <ismael> Can I  read my  usb hd from windows in qemu? How?
[03:51] <manveru> free version of vmware??? where??? :)
[03:51] <nalioth> manveru: at the vmware hole, i'd assume
[03:51] <buz> vmware.com
[03:51] <buz> (it's called player)
[03:51] <buz> and can't really create any VM
[03:52] <buz> vmware 5.5 and vmware player come with ubuntu kernel modules btw!
[03:52] <buz> no more gcc ing
[03:53] <manveru> so it's kind of wrapper for applications now?
[03:54] <manveru> their page is crap...
[03:55] <manveru> hmm
[03:56] <sfazruzs> hi all!..
[03:56] <sfazruzs> i'm a newbie in kubuntu..
[03:56] <manveru> according to the comparision it _could_ be possible for some gurus to create linux in VM-player (and they will do it - i've no doubt on that)
[03:56] <manveru> hey sfazruzs
[03:56] <sfazruzs> is there any anti virus for kubuntu 5.10?do we really need it?
[03:57] <manveru> there are virus-scanners for linux... never used one though
[03:57] <Ayiden> Hey, I have been trying to install the nvidia drivers for my geforce 5950 ultra I have been having troubles
[03:58] <manveru> sfazruzs: they are mainly for people who scan mails for viruses
[03:58] <sfazruzs> virus-scanners?where can i use it?i mean the address?
[03:58] <manveru> sfazruzs: open a console and type 'apt-cache search virus'
[03:58] <Ayiden> I must be doing somthing wrong. I download nvidia-glx and nvidia settings make sure nvidia is in xorg instead of nv but when kdm starts i get the nvidia screen and then everything goes black and its back to console
[03:58] <sfazruzs> how about firewall?do kubuntu need it?
[03:59] <manveru> sfazruzs: firewall is always a good thing to have
[03:59] <manveru> ubotu: tell sfazruzs about firewall
[03:59] <nalioth> there are no known viruses for linux
[04:00] <nalioth> there is no need for a firewall either, with a default install
[04:00] <manveru> nalioth: there are... one or two where even dangerous some years ago
[04:00] <sfazruzs> !firestarter
[04:00] <ubotu> firestarter is, like, Ubuntu has, like every other Linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is Firestarter, which can be installed via Breezy's "Add Applications" or Synaptic
[04:00] <Ayiden> nalioth: you can still get windows viruses and unknowingly send them to your windows friends
[04:00] <nalioth> Ayiden: and that is the only reason i can see for using an antivirus on linux
[04:00] <sfazruzs> ok then..
[04:01] <Ayiden> nalioth: and yes there are a FEW linux viruses out there... but chances are your not going to get them and they arnt very effective
[04:02] <Ayiden> anyway, anyone here have nvidia?
[04:02] <sfazruzs> ooooic..
[04:02] <sfazruzs> me!!!
[04:02] <sfazruzs> geforce 6600....
[04:02] <Ayiden> how did you install the drivers on a fresh install?
[04:03] <Ayiden> sfazruzs: NICE!!!
[04:03] <sfazruzs> i just installed my kubuntu..previously,i use win XP..
[04:03] <Ayiden> sfazruzs: im having trouble with these drivers... Im think im confused on how to install thm
[04:03] <sfazruzs> so,i just install n i is working..
[04:04] <Ayiden> hmmm.. 3d isnt though right?
[04:04] <Ayiden> crap
[04:04] <manveru> i've got nvidia running as well
[04:04] <Ayiden> I need the nvidia drivers and all i can use is the included nv
[04:04] <manveru> did you follow the wiki?
[04:05] <Ayiden> on the kubuntu site?
[04:05] <manveru> !nvidia
[04:05] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:05] <mixi> people please I nead mirror for download skype to kubuntu 5.10
[04:06] <buz> !Skype
[04:06] <ubotu> [skype]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:06] <Ayiden> yes, but for some reason kdm wont run... or at least I cant see it.. I get the nvidia splash and then I get nothing
[04:06] <manveru> sarn you where faster :)
[04:06] <sfazruzs> guys,if let say,i installed firefox that i had downloaded from the mozilla website,then i uninstalled it,is there any 'junk' file left behind by the program?if yes,then is then any software that can delete or clear it?
[04:06] <manveru> s/sarn/some_evil_curse
[04:07] <mixi> buz: thanks
[04:07] <manveru> sfazruzs: how did you install it?
[04:07] <sfazruzs> ha?
[04:07] <sfazruzs> how do i install it?
[04:07] <manveru> sfazruzs: you installed it and removed it
[04:07] <manveru> sfazruzs: how did you do that
[04:07] <sfazruzs> so called extract it..
[04:08] <sfazruzs> to install it..
[04:08] <sfazruzs> but for remove,i dont know how..
[04:08] <ltiger_hun> Can someone help my with MPlayer? I have compiled the latest cvs but the gui drops a Sig 11 fault
[04:08] <manveru> so you did something like './configure - make - make install'?
[04:09] <manveru> ltiger_hun: try it in the mplayer-channel - we have nothing to do with cvs-releases (if it is not wine)
[04:09] <ltiger_hun> ok thanks
[04:09] <manveru> sfazruzs: or was there some thing like './install'?
[04:09] <sfazruzs> the tar.gz file that i downloaded,i extract it..then the prog works alreday..
[04:09] <sfazruzs> *already
[04:09] <manveru> sfazruzs: ah, ok
[04:10] <sfazruzs> but to remove,i think,using the adept
[04:10] <manveru> no, there is no junk left, except the folder '.mozilla/firefox' in your home-folder
[04:10] <manveru> you just delete the folder where firefox is in
[04:10] <sfazruzs> oh,okies,,,
[04:10] <sfazruzs> thanks..
[04:10] <hiasll> !ati
[04:10] <ubotu> well, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[04:15] <mixi> !shell
[04:15] <ubotu> shell is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[04:16] <martinjh99> How do I take a screenshot of my KDM Login screen??
[04:20] <kkathman> martinjh99: ksnapshot
[04:20] <kkathman> oh nm 
[04:20] <manveru> kkathman: and how does he start it in kdm when kde is not running? :)
[04:20] <martinjh99> will it work when logged out though..?
[04:20] <kkathman> yah saw that...sorry 
[04:20] <kkathman> arggh
[04:21] <manveru> there are some tools to grab the screen from the x-server
[04:21] <kkathman> bye
[04:21] <martinjh99> manveru any chance of getting kdm to run in a window so I can use ksnapshot??
[04:22] <manveru> wait
[04:22] <manveru> have something
[04:22] <manveru> http://www.ss64.com/bash/import.html
[04:28] <sfazruzs> how do i enlarge my fonts?for all the application....
[04:29] <sfazruzs> i set to 16 in my fonts setting..but there still application or software that does not change to 16,but rather 10 or smaller..
[04:31] <_bob> bonjour a tous
[04:32] <_bob> j eviens d'installer KUBUNTU, et j'aimerai savoir c'est quoi le mot de passe SU ?
[04:32] <Chousuke> English.
[04:32] <Chousuke> But I'll guess: You want root?
[04:32] <Chousuke> kubuntu uses sudo for root, and the password for sudo is your own
[05:16] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:26] <Ayiden> !nvidia
[05:26] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:40] <ltiger_hun> bye
[05:42] <gigcs> How  remaster distro kubuntu install cd  .
[05:53] <gigcs> adf
[05:54] <raphink> pkj
[05:56] <rebugger> hi
[06:17] <gigcs> mdz
[06:46] <basic> wow adept is crashing like 90% of the time i use it
[06:47] <lilalinux> autoconf 2.53 or newer should be a builddep on the kde packages
[06:47] <mornfall> basic: details?
[06:47] <basic> just crashes
[06:47] <basic> the kde thing pops up
[06:48] <mornfall> that's sure lots of details
[06:48] <mornfall> anything resembling a backtrace? ways to reproduce? b.k.o report?
[06:50] <murtaugh> how difficult is it to setup raid5 during a breezy install?
[06:50] <mornfall> i sure as hell didn't get any in my mail
[06:50] <brendan_> does the OEM installer work in kubuntu?
[06:51] <Tm_T> what is OEM installer
[06:51] <brendan_> the new installer in ubutu breezy that makes it easier for OEMs to sell pc with ubuntu on them
[06:52] <Tm_T> aah
[06:53] <brendan_> Also, is there a way to add aditional packes to the cds?
[06:53] <rocco_lord> anybody having a solution to only half system sounds beeing played with 3.5rc?
[06:53] <nalioth> brendan_: search "wiki.ubuntu.com" for "customization"
[06:54] <brendan_> oh
[06:54] <nalioth> brendan_: there are howtos for customizing both live and install cds
[06:58] <brendan_> ok
[06:58] <brendan_> thanks
[07:00] <td> Hi ... has anyone successfully got Kubuntu to run a realtime kernel? I'd like to get basically the audio features of DeMuDi in to my Kubuntu, but am unsure of the best way to go about it (and last time I tried a kernel update with Demudi i broke everything :))
[07:03] <sambagirl> is it possible to install shockwave for konquerer?
[07:04] <td> @sambagirl: don't think there is a version of shockwave for linux, only Flash afaik
[07:04] <sambagirl> oh
[07:05] <sambagirl> is swf same as flash and shockwave?
[07:05] <td> swf is flash - you need the flash plugin?
[07:05] <td> swf = ShockWave Flash
[07:06] <sambagirl> i guess.
[07:06] <sambagirl> ahh ok
[07:06] <sambagirl> drat
[07:06] <_dave> Yo any1 help me installing steam ??
[07:06] <td> you can get flashplayer by getting the flashplayer-nonfree package, integrate with firefox with the flashplayer-mozilla package (from multiverse as they are non-free)
[07:06] <sambagirl> what is steam?
[07:07] <_dave> coutner strike main client
[07:07] <sambagirl> how do i start up my sql?
[07:07] <td> but if you need shockwave, only choice i think is to use CrossOver OFfice to run the windows one
[07:07] <_dave> well its got active X error
[07:07] <rocco_lord> sambagirl: with crosover you also run shockwave if you like
[07:07] <td> Steam - use Cedega - not tried it but seen screenshots of Steam running in ti
[07:07] <td> *it
[07:07] <td> you have to pay for it tho
[07:07] <sambagirl> is ok i just run on windows machine ;)
[07:07] <_dave> well i got wine running but when i run steam says i needd active X n that wont install any ideas?
[07:08] <td> or... you can build from source... not sure how well it works, some features (e.g. the GUI for launching games easily) will be missing
[07:08] <_dave> the active X bit im stuck on
[07:08] <td> had a similar problem with Winamp - kept asking if i wanted to install ActiveX plugin, clicking yes made no difference
[07:08] <td> so dunno
[07:08] <_dave> yea
[07:08] <_dave> :(
[07:08] <td> but, have you tried google?
[07:08] <td> i'm sure somewhere there'll be advice.. maybe on the wineHQ appdb
[07:09] <_dave> yup no luck apart from firefox active x install but thats not default browser
[07:09] <td> http://www.linux-militia.net/howtos/doom3/doom3.html this is a guide to installing Doom3 on Linux,... if you just follow the parts about instaling cedega from cvs, you might have luck - its a special version of Wine (used to WineX) for playing games
[07:10] <td> ah yeah, well you could try and make firefox default browser - run kcontrol, go to KDE Components > Component chooser, set web browser default to be "/usr/bin/firefox"
[07:10] <td> dunno if that will work
[07:10] <_dave> kk ty
[07:10] <_dave> ill give few things a go
[07:10] <_dave> let ya know wat happens
[07:12] <td> Sambagirl: re:SQL - do you have some kind of sql (e.g. mysql) installed?
[07:13] <sambagirl> yes i think i did it yesterday.
[07:13] <sambagirl> i use kyptiantic
[07:13] <sambagirl> something like thiat
[07:13] <sambagirl> that
[07:13] <sambagirl> kyanptic
[07:13] <sambagirl> kinaptic
[07:13] <sambagirl> something like this
[07:13] <td> yeah yeah
[07:13] <td> well, try going to a terminal
[07:13] <td> and type: /etc/init.d/mysql start
[07:13] <td> see what happens
[07:14] <td> i dunno much about mySql this is just guesswork
[07:14] <sambagirl> just a second i am playing a game :)
[07:14] <sambagirl> i am carry the bomb 
[07:14] <td> haha ok. the actual command you want is: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start (you have to be root :))
[07:15] <sambagirl> ok back
[07:15] <sambagirl> i died
[07:18] <sambagirl> ok it is runnning let me try the thing now
[07:18] <sambagirl> brb
[07:21] <opensource> Riddell: I can't get a hold of jpatrick however, I was looking over the french forums.  They look great, and I wouldn't want to detract from them.  I only added the french section due to user request.
[07:22] <sambagirl> i am trying to use my browser to access this page how do i do it? i forgot how i did it yesterday.
[07:22] <sambagirl> media:/hda1/var/www/html/openemr-2.8.0/setup.php
[07:22] <sambagirl> http://localhost/openemr-2.8.0/setup.php ?
[07:24] <{slacky}> Riddell: I've got a problem upgrading KUbuntu after I've istalled it few minutes ago
[07:25] <{slacky}> Riddell: the problem is with mozilla-firefox-locale-it
[07:26] <td> yea that should be right sambagirl
[07:29] <{slacky}> what is the package to install to have flash pluging working into firefox and konqueror?
[07:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell {slacky} about flash
[08:19] <londonboi2k3> hi guys, just a quick question, am trying kubuntu (mainly a gnome man myself) but i am not sure how i turn off the annoying bubble thingy that tells me what everything is for
[08:20] <londonboi2k3> like the K menu for example
[08:20] <nalioth> right click on the bar and look in the preferences
[08:21] <londonboi2k3> cant see anything named preferences
[08:21] <londonboi2k3> :(
[08:25] <Mars_^> Hi i have problem. How can i run 5.1 sound system on kubuntu, cause now i can only listem to 2 power speakers
[08:28] <Mars^> :/ So noonne know how to rum 5.1 sound system?
[08:50] <eriksti> Hey guys, I execute "./configure --prefix=`kde-config --prefix`", and get the following error: "in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.". What's up?
[08:50] <aseigo> you need to install the dev packages.
[08:50] <crimsun> install kdebase-dev
[08:51] <eriksti> ah, thank you
[08:53] <nalioth> crimsun: i got a wifi dongle that worked. updated the wirelesshardware wiki
[08:55] <rzr> hi
[08:55] <rzr> i need help for packaging a QT app
[08:55] <rzr> is QTDIR var mandatory ?
[09:00] <crimsun> nalioth: excellent
[09:02] <buz> is there any chance to use GDI laser printers with kubuntu?
[09:02] <buz> or should i rather pay the 30% markup for the PS2 one?
[09:06] <manveru> buz: your chances are pretty low
[09:07] <buz> so rather pay the additional 70bucks
[09:07] <buz> that's what i suspected
[09:07] <buz> i think i'll get the kyocera mita fs-920 then
[09:17] <whiskers> is there a tv viewer applicatoin for kubuntu?
[09:20] <icewt> kaffeine?
[09:20] <nalioth> whiskers: mythtv?
[09:20] <whiskers> i didnt find anything in the package manager
[09:21] <icewt> whiskers: kaffeine is installed by default
[09:21] <buz> i wished kaffeine was installed into my veins by default
[09:22] <whiskers> ok i have kaffein
[09:22] <whiskers> how do i watch tv?
[09:22] <{slacky}> I enabled all the disabled repository into the packager GUI but I cannot find application as mplayer, kmplayer and flashplugin-nonfree :(
[09:22] <{slacky}> why?
[09:22] <KaoticEvil> mornin everyone :)
[09:22] <buz> did you reload the repositories?
[09:22] <icewt> whiskers: digital or analog? do you have a tv-card?
[09:22] <whiskers> i have a tv card
[09:23] <whiskers> extended cable 2-70 for channels
[09:23] <icewt> is it a dvb card?
[09:24] <whiskers> hauppauge pvr 350
[09:24] <whiskers> i dont know what a dvb is
[09:26] <{slacky}> buz: of course
[09:26] <icewt> whiskers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Video_Broadcasting
[09:26] <buz> {slacky}: works for me
[09:27] <{slacky}> buz: well the installer selected me the italian repository
[09:27] <{slacky}> buz: could be this the problem?
[09:27] <buz> dunno
[09:27] <buz> the swiss points to the main one
[09:27] <{slacky}> buz: I tryed to add the repository standard of ubuntu but nothing
[09:28] <buz> multiverse and universe?
[09:28] <mathieu> Hello
[09:28] <{slacky}> universe I think
[09:28] <{slacky}> but I repeat I enabled all the disabled repository
[09:28] <icewt> whiskers: seems to me that it is a dvb card. if you can see a dvb-menu in kaffeine your card has probably been recognized by linux and you can try to search for channels etc.
[09:28] <buz> try adding multiverse as well
[09:28] <{slacky}> sources too
[09:29] <mathieu> I was wondering if theres already a K version of drapper? (where?)
[09:29] <icewt> whiskers: if there's no dvb menu, search for ubuntu forums / google how to get your card to work
[09:30] <mathieu> I found one for standard ubuntu but couldnt find any of kubuntu... or is it too early to matter?
[09:31] <jjesse> mathieu: kinda too early from what i can tell, you can install breezy kubuntu and then switch your sources.list from breezy to dapper which is what i did
[09:31] <icewt> whiskers: and you also need to install kaffeine-xine and select it in kaffeine settings -> player engine to watch tv
[09:31] <{slacky}> buz: but libcss is not in the repository?
[09:32] <buz> actually that's possible
[09:32] <buz> libcss isnt legal in some places
[09:32] <{slacky}> :(
[09:32] <mathieu> jjesse: ok. actually my ethernet refuse to work with warty or breezy which is why I wanted to give it a try with dapper
[09:32] <buz> look for marillat on the wiki
[09:32] <{slacky}> but so I cannot see al dvd
[09:32] <buz> add that repo and you'll get all of them
[09:32] <nalioth> buz: dont do that please
[09:32] <jjesse> mathieu: that is interesting i haven't had any issues w/ nic cards on any install of dapper
[09:33] <nalioth> debian binaries will kill a kubuntu installation
[09:33] <buz> no they wont
[09:33] <nalioth> or yes they will
[09:33] <buz> you just shouldn't run distupgrade while it's active
[09:33] <buz> but installing mplayer from there is working perfectly here
[09:33] <nalioth> buz: please do not advise adding debian repos
[09:33] <nalioth> !libdvdcss2
[09:33] <ubotu> [libdvdcss2]  to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"
[09:33] <nalioth> {slacky}: there you go ^^^^
[09:34] <buz> nalioth: then maybe someone should put a big explanation of what to do to get dvds playing
[09:34] <nalioth> buz: people do not know to only enable a repo for one item and then disabling it
[09:34] <{slacky}> in which repository I found mplayer? can you write here? :(
[09:34] <buz> (never mind w32codecs)
[09:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell {slacky} about mplayer
[09:34] <nalioth> {slacky}: it's in universe, but it's not called mplayer. it's called mplayer-586 or mlayer-powerpc
[09:35] <{slacky}> nalioth: ubotu is a bot?
[09:35] <nalioth> ubotu tell {slacky} about yourself
[09:35] <mathieu> jjesse: thanks for your help. I think ill just try the ubuntu (no k) version of dapper and see if my problem is fixed... :)
[09:35] <{slacky}> ok but if i write mplayer into the search line I should find it
[09:35] <nalioth> {slacky}: enable universe and multiverse repos
[09:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell {slacky} about repos
[09:36] <nalioth> KaoticEvil: where you been?
[09:36] <KaoticEvil> nalioth: sleeping :P
[09:36] <KaoticEvil> i do that every couple of days
[09:42] <kkathman> hey there KaoticEvil  :0
[09:42] <notech> hi
[09:43] <notech> someone know a fix to admin mode bug?
[09:43] <notech> actually i use kdesu kcontrol  'command
[09:44] <notech> noone?
[09:45] <nalioth> notech: update your system
[09:45] <notech> how?
[09:45] <nalioth> kkathman: can you answer notech please?
[09:45] <KaoticEvil> notech: have you added the universe and multiverse repos to apt-get?
[09:45] <notech> yes!
[09:46] <nalioth> notech: there are patched versions, but i dont know where they are
[09:46] <gupta> Would the system be any les-biggy if i install kde-from kubuntu cd in ubuntu?
[09:46] <KaoticEvil> would a system upgrade not get them?
[09:46] <gupta> them as in?
[09:48] <notech> another question: could someone help me installing superkaramba for ubuntu please?
[09:48] <notech> i have some problems..
[09:48] <kkathman> notech are you on breezy?
[09:48] <notech> yes
[09:48] <gupta> I mean is it tha same thing to install kde in ubuntu and using kubuntu
[09:48] <kkathman> notech do you know that your sources are ok?
[09:49] <notech> i have downloaded a .deb file of superkaramba 0.36 for ubuntu
[09:49] <notech> and used it on previous 5.04 hoary ,but now with breezy when i try to install it prints me errors
[09:50] <notech> like i have missing some dll's and the package in installed corrupted
[09:50] <kkathman> notech: if your sources were correct, the superkaramba should have migrated also
[09:51] <notech> initially i have done apt-get install superkaramba and it was ok
[09:51] <kkathman> I think I have the same version
[09:51] <notech> but when i use some plugins,superkaramba doesnt show them.like an incompatible.
[09:51] <kkathman> notech I think maybe you should double check your sources.list file, then use Adept to update
[09:52] <kkathman> notech: thats possible, some of the plugins might use a version of python you dont have
[09:52] <notech> this is what happenew in hoary too,but then i found this .deb file and installed it and was all ok! now again problems with breezy?
[09:53] <kkathman> notech: like I said, check your sources.list file and then run adept updater
[09:53] <notech> i imagine this problem can be related to a moltitude of things,but can u help me out?
[09:56] <notech> how to run adept-updater? i write kdesu adept-updater but after psw it says i need to be root!
[09:58] <notech> with apt-get i receive superkaramba is already a newest version ./
[09:59] <nalioth> notech: 'kdesu adept'
[10:00] <kkathman> sorry
[10:00] <kkathman> had to run a minute
[10:01] <notech> then what do i need to do? i see a list of files..
[10:02] <notech> the address Superkaramba=installed.
[10:03] <mschmitt> hi there ...
[10:03] <antoniopf> ciao ragazzi
[10:03] <antoniopf> ci sono italiani qui?
[10:03] <notech> ciao anto
[10:04] <antoniopf> ciao notech
[10:04] <_snake> Hey can anyone help me plllzz??
[10:04] <mschmitt> what is your matter?
[10:04] <antoniopf> ma c' un knale italiano per kubuntu?
[10:04] <rikva> !it
[10:04] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese, Grazie...
[10:04] <nalioth> !it
[10:04] <notech> potresti dare una mano ad un poveraccio incapace?
[10:04] <antoniopf> ubotu
[10:04] <antoniopf> lo konosco
[10:04] <_snake> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
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[10:04] <antoniopf> pensao ci fosse unkanale a parte
[10:04] <nalioth> antoniopf: #kubuntu-it
[10:04] <_snake> I'm trying to use konquerer to browse the web and any time i type in a site it say 
[10:05] <_snake> Well read up there
[10:05] <antoniopf> grazie notech
[10:05] <mschmitt> _snake: well, did you try and ping any server?
[10:06] <antoniopf> qualkuno sa kome velocozzare un p il karikamento della kubuntu?
[10:06] <_snake> mschmitt: how?
[10:06] <_snake> mschmitt: ping on the terminal right?
[10:06] <mschmitt> konsole "ping www.hi.com"
[10:07] <nalioth> _snake: if that doesnt work, ping 64.233.167.147
[10:07] <mschmitt> :)
[10:07] <mschmitt> and if that doesn
[10:07] <mschmitt> 't work: ping localhost ;)
[10:07] <_snake> I pinged google, i am getting 40 ms replys
[10:07] <mschmitt> well ...
[10:08] <mschmitt> i guess your dns doesnt get hi.com right.
[10:08] <mschmitt> try one more host.
[10:08] <_snake> It doesnt work with any tite
[10:08] <_snake> site*
[10:08] <notech> kkathaman is there any fix to admin bug? Nalioth said i need to update my system,but how?
[10:08] <_snake> I tried google, I tried every site i could think of
[10:08] <mschmitt> konqueror or what?
[10:08] <nalioth> _snake: if that doesnt work, ping 64.233.167.147
[10:09] <mschmitt> ping does work ... only konqueror doesn't, right?
[10:09] <mschmitt> where are you from, btw?
[10:09] <_snake> 30 ms ping from ping 64.233.167.147
[10:09] <_snake> Ohio
[10:09] <_snake> And yes only konqueror doesn't
[10:10] <_snake> Should I install firefox or something?
[10:10] <mschmitt> _snake: well. ... try firefox, yes.
[10:10] <mschmitt> but it seems to me a bit odd ...
[10:10] <nalioth> _snake: you can ping with the numbers?
[10:10] <_snake> Yea
[10:10] <nalioth> _snake: then your dns isnt working
[10:11] <_snake> You can use IP...im not THAT much of a noob
[10:11] <_snake> lol
[10:11] <mschmitt> he can even ping with hostnames
[10:11] <_snake> I can ping with host names too
[10:11] <mschmitt> just the http doesnt work ...
[10:11] <mschmitt> or at least konqueror.
[10:11] <_snake> Hmmm http://64.233.167.147 worked
[10:11] <mschmitt> anybody knows something about kopete?
[10:11] <_snake> http://google.com doesnt tho
[10:12] <nalioth> _snake: your dns isn't working
[10:12] <_snake> How do I fix it?
[10:12] <_snake> :-D
[10:12] <mschmitt> somehow its working for ping, but not for konqueror
[10:12] <LjL> _snake: what's in /etc/resolv.conf?
[10:12] <mschmitt> try /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:12] <_snake> in konqueror, I got the direct IP to work
[10:13] <_snake> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
[10:13] <_snake> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
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[10:13] <_snake> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
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[10:13] <mschmitt> well ... may be there is any stupid setting, htat overwrites the overall dns settings.
[10:13] <_snake> search domain_not_set.invalid
[10:14] <_snake> nameserver 192.168.0.1
[10:14] <_snake> nameserver 192.168.0.1
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[10:14] <_snake> ARGH
[10:14] <_snake> The nameserver is right for my local IP
[10:14] <LjL> _snake: don't paste here.. anyway, your nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf is wrong, you've got to use the IP addresses provided by your ISp
[10:14] <mschmitt> anyone knows how to fix the kopete bug??
[10:14] <LjL> _snake: hm, no, not unless you've got a DNS server running on 192.168.0.1
[10:14] <chaoticgeek> what bug?
[10:14] <_snake> But im going through a router, so wouldn't I use the routers DNS??
[10:14] <sampan_> arggggh, updating borked my scim
[10:15] <mschmitt> or some german people here?
[10:15] <LjL> _snake: i don't have a DSL, so i don't quite know what services DSL routers provide. if you're sure your router does provide DNS, then well...
[10:16] <mschmitt> they do forward the dns by default.
[10:16] <LjL> _snake: try using "nslookup", and see if that resolves things
[10:16] <LjL> _snake: i mean "resolve", not "solve" :)
[10:17] <LjL> _snake: like "nslookup www.google.com"
[10:17] <_snake> Okay what about it?
[10:18] <mschmitt> LjL: do you know how to fix kopete?
[10:18] <LjL> mschmitt: never even used it
[10:18] <LjL> _snake: well, what does it say on trying to resolve google?
[10:18] <mschmitt> well ... what icq client do you use, then?
[10:18] <LjL> mschmitt: i don't use one
[10:19] <mschmitt> :(
[10:19] <mschmitt> ;)
[10:19] <_snake> Try GAIM?
[10:19] <_snake> What do you mean resolve??
[10:19] <mschmitt> well ... yes, but its no native icq programm ...
[10:20] <LjL> _snake: "to resolve a name" means to turn a hostname into the corresponding IP address. that's what DNS does, and that's what apparently isn't working on your box
[10:21] <LjL> _snake: so, basically, if "nslookup www.google.com" gives you back an IP address for google, then the problem is at a higher level than DNS, while if it can't resolve it, well it might give some clues about what could be wrong with DNS, maybe
[10:21] <_snake> Okay well it claims google is on my server, which obviously its not, but it says 72.14.207.99 is the address
[10:21] <SysFail> evening all
[10:22] <SysFail> anybody have kaffeine working with the win32 codecs that can help me?
[10:22] <_snake> lol this happened after I did what it say here
[10:22] <_snake> http://www.psychocats.net/linux/sources.php
[10:22] <_snake> Does that have anything to do with it?
[10:22] <LjL> _snake: by saying "Server 192.168.0.1", nslookup doesn't mean that, it just means that your DNS server is 192.168.0.1
[10:23] <SysFail> kaffeine used to have a wizard that checked it out the first time you ran it
[10:23] <LjL> _snake: can you post nslookup's exact output on the pastebin please?
[10:23] <SysFail> i cant seem to find it now
[10:23] <LjL> _snake: (no, i don't think it can have anything to do with it)
[10:23] <_snake> Hang on one sec, i dont want to spam the place again
[10:24] <_snake> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
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[10:25] <_snake> <P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0in">snake@Beast:~$ nslookup www.google.com</P>
[10:25] <_snake> <P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0in">Server:         192.168.0.1</P>
[10:25] <^rob^> hi
[10:25] <_snake> <P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0in">Address:        192.168.0.1#53</P>
[10:25] <_snake> <P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0in"><BR>
[10:25] <LjL> i know linux sometimes makes copy&paste a bit harder than would be desirable, but :P
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[10:25] <_snake> <P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0in">Non-authoritative answer:</P>
[10:25] <_snake> <P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0in">www.google.com  canonical name =
[10:25] <^rob^> is there any breezy - nvidia fix problem?
[10:25] <_snake> www.l.google.com.</P>
[10:26] <_snake> <P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0in">Name:   www.l.google.com</P>
[10:26] <_snake> <P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0in">Address: 72.14.207.99</P>
[10:26] <_snake> <P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0in">Name:   www.l.google.com</P>
[10:26] <_snake> <P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0in">Address: 72.14.207.104</P>
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[10:26] <beast> snake: why not use pastebin for all this...  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
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[10:26] <_snake> ARGH
[10:26] <_snake> UGH.
[10:26] <_snake> Is there anyway to clean that up??
[10:26] <_snake> lol
[10:26] <_snake> if theres a way to clean it up do tell lol
[10:26] <^rob^> does anyone has nvidia in breezy with nvidia driver?
[10:26] <eht> -
[10:26] <_snake> Cuz I cant go to websites :-P
[10:27] <LjL> _snake: your DNS is working quite well. try "wget http://www.google.com/", if things are working it should output "[....]  index.html saved"
[10:27] <^rob^> i have problem running X with nvidia kernel common from breezy - i just upgraded
[10:27] <^rob^> ??
[10:27] <_snake> Yep it out put that
[10:28] <LjL> _snake: then the problem is only in Konqueror, i think
[10:28] <nalioth> _snake: please use a pastebin
[10:28] <LjL> _snake: don't you just happen to have a proxy specified in Konqueror?
[10:29] <_snake> Someone tell me how to use pastebin and I will lol and let me check on that proxy thing
[10:29] <SysFail> the amount of support has just gone to SHIT since breezy came out....there used to be help for damn near everything on ubuntu before this
[10:29] <LjL> nalioth: he can't, as he can't go to the web. though i don't quite understand how he manages to paste a full-blown HTML page for bash output ;)
[10:29] <^rob^> hey - anyone use NVIDIA here?
[10:29] <beast> ^rob^: your kernel common version probably differs from the other nvidia installables
[10:29] <LjL> _snake: you can go to http://80.87.131.193 to use the pastebin
[10:30] <_snake> says im denied
[10:30] <LjL> _snake: yeah, sorry, says same to me
[10:31] <LjL> _snake: well nevermind, what about the konqueror proxy settings?
[10:31] <LjL> _snake: (which, actually, i think you'll find under Settings / Internet & Network / Proxy)
[10:31] <libben> hmm... anyone knows when it will be ava? http://dot.kde.org/1132098617/
[10:32] <_snake> It was set on direct connect, but then I set for auto connect like I have on my windows PCs, and it said unable to find a usable script
[10:32] <libben> http://www.oxygen-icons.org
[10:32] <LjL> _snake: no, direct connect is OK...
[10:32] <LjL> hm
[10:32] <LjL> do you have firefox installed as well?
[10:33] <_snake> Head scratcher?
[10:33] <_snake> :-D
[10:33] <LjL> yeah, a little
[10:33] <_snake> No, but im sure I can hit apt get and get it
[10:33] <LjL> you could try, even though i think it will work... if wget and nslookup work, there's no reason why it shouldn't
[10:33] <LjL> it must be something to do with KDE and/or Konqueror
[10:34] <_snake> Shit.
[10:34] <_snake> Kyaptic isn't working either
[10:34] <LjL> also, how did you connect to here? just loaded Konversation and clicked on the default server?
[10:34] <_snake> Yea
[10:34] <LjL> so konversation is resolving names, but konqueror isn't
[10:34] <LjL> and kynaptic apparently isn't either
[10:35] <LjL> try just "aptitude install firefox"
[10:35] <_snake> 11 processes unavalible
[10:36] <LjL> ah-uhm?
[10:36] <_snake> Uhh
[10:36] <_snake> wiat
[10:36] <LjL> paste the output please... but paste it to the channel #flood
[10:36] <_snake> "11 Resource temporarily unavailable"
[10:36] <LjL> ah
[10:36] <LjL> close kynaptic first
[10:36] <LjL> APT programs won't work while other APT programs are running
[10:36] <_snake> Oops didnt see that open :-D
[10:37] <_snake> okay I shut it down
[10:37] <_snake> and now this
[10:37] <_snake> look in flood
[10:38] <LjL> hm there is still some APT program running, either synaptic, or kynaptic still, or something
[10:38] <LjL> try "ps aux | grep apt" to see what program it could be
[10:38] <_snake> is there a program like task manager
[10:39] <LjL> yeah, the one i just told you ;-) or, i think ctrl+esc will also show a list of (some?) running programs
[10:39] <_snake> c kynaptic
[10:39] <_snake> How do I shut it down?
[10:39] <LjL> killall kynaptic
[10:39] <LjL> if you can't close it more gracefully
[10:40] <_snake> Alright I think its dead :)
[10:40] <LjL> ;)
[10:40] <_snake> No. Its not.
[10:40] <LjL> omg
[10:40] <Sonny_Wertzik> hi
[10:41] <_snake> Wanna see output??
[10:41] <buz> crtl-alt-esc -> klick
[10:41] <LjL> _snake: the output from aptitude you mean?
[10:41] <_snake> no from the killall and all that
[10:41] <Sonny_Wertzik> does anyone know of a KDE based internet radio program that streams shoutcast ...or a  plugin for amarok?
[10:41] <LjL> _snake: oh, well yes
[10:41] <_snake> go to flood
[10:42] <LjL> i'm in there
[10:42] <LjL> oh, ok
[10:42] <LjL> "sudo killall kynaptic"
[10:43] <LjL> ah, i see
[10:43] <_snake> Maybe I should like...restart?? lol that would probly kill all processes :-D
[10:43] <LjL> "sudo kill -s 9 22851"
[10:43] <LjL> nah
[10:43] <_snake> I did that
[10:43] <_snake> alright
[10:43] <LjL> try aptitude again
[10:44] <_snake> Holy shit! 45mb need to be installed!?
[10:44] <_snake> lol
[10:44] <LjL> firefox is kinda big :-) you could install "links2" instead of firefox, that should be smaller
[10:44] <sampan> snake, tis true though -- updating borked SCIM and that is a mission-critical thing for me
[10:45] <LjL> (but it's not quite the same thing, it's a little text-mode + sort-of-graphics-mode browser)
[10:45] <_snake> nvm its cool, its only 15 mbs, that was after unpacking 45 mbs
[10:45] <libben> what icon theme should i use?
[10:45] <libben> is nuvola any good ? or is the default that is solid and looks cleanest?
[10:45] <sampan> libben, one that you like
[10:45] <buz> personally i like crystal
[10:46] <buz> but it's really mostly a matter of taste
[10:46] <libben> http://www.oxygen-icons.org will rock in kde4
[10:46] <buz> yeah
[10:46] <libben> and he did nuvola. and many wows him for it
[10:46] <buz> i was looking at it just a few minutes ago
[10:46] <_snake> ljl, go to flood
[10:46] <_snake> more output
[10:47] <LjL> _snake: by the way, have you had a look at Settings / Internet / Network settings / Domain name system? i think that just shows the stuff that is in /etc/resolv.conf, but i'm not sure... you could have a look and make sure the DNS is right
[10:47] <LjL> _snake: uh?! i suppose you've just had a big update of packages!
[10:48] <libben> looks promising http://www.oxygen-icons.org/?cat=3
[10:48] <LjL> _snake: what came before that part you pasted?
[10:48] <LjL> nalioth: come have a look, i think _snake is having something quite weird going on
[10:49] <LjL> _snake: anyway, at this point, my advice would be "sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude dist-upgrade; reboot"
[10:49] <LjL> sudo reboot, actually
[10:50] <LjL> oh, libc6 has been updated
[10:50] <_snake> That was before it
[10:50] <nalioth> yes, _snake should reboot
[10:50] <LjL> that explains the stuff about services
[10:50] <_snake> Will that restart PC?
[10:51] <LjL> _snake: ?
[10:52] <LjL> _snake: (btw, you're using breezy, right? and if yes, on http://www.psychocats.net/linux/sources.php you only added the stuff related to breezy, right?)
[10:53] <libben> anyone tried the nuvola icon?
[10:53] <libben> beats the crystal?
[10:53] <_snake> Yes
[10:53] <_snake> Ill brb guys, my dad needs some help
[10:54] <LjL> _snake: ok. in the meanwhile, i think you might want to reboot
[10:56] <_snake> Hang on im doin the dist update
[10:57] <_snake> This is going to take forever (700 mb)
[10:59] <SysFail> those guys in #ubuntu are fucking pricks
[10:59] <LjL> _snake: i don't understand why it's downloading that much stuff
[10:59] <LjL> _snake: how long haven't you been dist-upgrading? (though, in any case, it can't have been too long, as breezy is not out by long)
[11:00] <_snake> I just installed it today!
[11:00] <_snake> lol
[11:00] <LjL> _snake: are you 100% sure you installed *breezy* and not hoary? i mean, you can't be having 700mb of updates on breezy...
[11:00] <_snake> how do I chek what im running.
[11:01] <_snake> I downloaded it 2 days ago, and installed today from kubuntu's site
[11:02] <LjL> nalioth: help :)
[11:02] <_snake> brb agin
[11:03] <LjL> _snake: anyway, if you go ctrl+alt+f1 you should see a console where the first line tells you whether you're using breezy or hoary... then press alt+f7 to go back to KDE
[11:04] <libben> hmm
[11:04] <LjL> (what's actually the command to obtain the same information? duh)
[11:04] <libben> nuvola was really good
[11:04] <libben> like it alot
[11:04] <libben> cant wait for kde4
[11:05] <libben> is there any user defiend folder to place own icons into? so i dont need to browse for them all the time
[11:05] <nalioth> LjL: yes?
[11:06] <LjL> nalioth: what's happening to this guy's system? how can he be getting 700mb of updates on dist-upgrade?
[11:06] <nalioth> LjL: if he has lots lf universe and multiverse things, easily
[11:07] <LjL> nalioth: he installed two days ago, he said... i don't even think the CD has any universe packages?!
[11:08] <kkathman> Ljl my update took 6 hours...cuz I had alot of things installed
[11:08] <LjL> the only thing i can think of is that he's downloaded hoary instead of breezy, but i can't see how he could have done that, given he downloaded the CD two days ago
[11:08] <nalioth> LjL: how do you know what he installed since?
[11:09] <LjL> nalioth: i don't. but how many updates can there be in two days? i mean, i rarely ever get *any* updates on here
[11:09] <kkathman> LjL: dist-upgrade?
[11:10] <LjL> kkathman: there's something i'm missing. in the, say, month that i've had breezy, my dist-upgrades haven't updated many packages at all. now perhaps i've got less stuff installed than you, but still....
[11:10] <LjL> kkathman: yeah, that's the way one usually updates stuff, isn't it
[11:10] <kkathman> LjL: i was talking about going from hoary to breezy...sorry..
[11:10] <nalioth> LjL: no it is not.
[11:10] <kkathman> my bad
[11:10] <LjL> kkathman: oh, ok
[11:11] <LjL> nalioth: ?
[11:11] <Fillado> I've just installed Kubuntu - installation went fine, but when I boot up all I get is a grey screen (the mouse shows up and works). Can anyone help?
[11:11] <LjL> nalioth: of course, that was short of "sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[11:11] <LjL> short of = short for
[11:12] <Hobbsee> grr kkathman 
[11:12] <nalioth> LjL: i only dist-upgrade when moving from one *buntu version to the next
[11:12] <nalioth> LjL: all other times i only use "upgrade"
[11:13] <kkathman> Hobbsee:  ok ok  Im out!!! 
[11:13] <LjL> nalioth: well, dist-upgrade is supposed to tidy up things better... even though it probably becomes the same as simple "upgrade" when a package-revolution is not involved
[11:13] <Hobbsee> grr
[11:15] <LjL> nalioth: man apt-get, it makes it quite clear that dist-upgrade is a "better superset" of upgrade (although of course i suppose that, as always, it can screw things up at times... but it has worked flawlessly for years in my debian)
[11:15] <nalioth> LjL: i speak of my personal experience, everyone is different
[11:16] <LjL> nalioth: yeah but i can almost assure you that "dist-upgrade" is the recommended way to update your system, whether you're actually upgrading to a "new distribution" or not
[11:17] <LjL> "upgrade" leaves obsoleted dependencies installed, and stuff like that
[11:17] <nalioth> LjL: perhaps i will start following that path
[11:19] <LjL> nalioth: look, i'm reading the man, it says for example that, with "upgrade", no new packages are *ever* installed. which means that if you have a package whose new version has a new dependency, your upgrade will break
[11:19] <nalioth> LjL: i've not had much trouble.
[11:20] <LjL> no, surely, most of the times you won't have much trouble... expecially in Ubuntu, where updates are very small until a whole new version comes out (in which case, one definitely should always use dist-upgrade, i suppose)
[11:21] <LjL> in debian, using "upgrade" can be a bit troublesome at times, and in theory, it can be in Ubuntu as well... it's just that Ubuntu's updates usually change less stuff
[11:21] <_snake> Hey guys
[11:21] <_snake> It appears I am infact on hoary....
[11:21] <_snake> Wtf is that??
[11:21] <LjL> _snake: yep, that was the only thing i could think of
[11:21] <_snake> But how did I manage that one :-D
[11:22] <LjL> _snake: i have no idea ;-) hoary is obsoleted by breezy now :)
[11:22] <_snake> Yea I kno
[11:22] <_snake> Where could I find breezy?
[11:22] <_snake> The offical site I assume?
[11:23] <_snake> Bah whatever, i'm going to go on windows, and download breezy
[11:23] <_snake> Ill be back in here tho, this is a nice room, I might learn something :)
[11:24] <LjL> uh, didn't give me the time to tell him that the upgrade he just did may have been all that he needed...
[11:28] <libben> is there any user defiend folder to place own icons into? so i dont need to browse for them all the time
[11:31] <Snakeda337> I figured out my problem
[11:32] <Niomi> nalioth: how did that upgrade go?
[11:32] <nalioth> Niomi: i'm here 
[11:33] <_Snake_> I'm so dumb I threw out the wrong disk lol (if ljls still here)
[11:34] <LjL> yep
[11:34] <LjL> _Snake_: but look, if your upgrade was reasonably succesful, you probably don't need a new CD
[11:35] <LjL> _Snake_: breezy is supposed to be upgradable from hoary
[11:35] <_Snake_> Meh whatever, im in windows now, and re-downloading breezy
[11:36] <LjL> _Snake_: well, that's certainly an option, if time is not a problem :)
[11:36] <_Snake_> A while back I was going to go on to kubuntu, but I didn't understand it (fresh off windows) so I gave up the second day, well then I played with knoppix for a while, and deicded to go back to kubuntu
[11:36] <LjL> _Snake_: kde all along? never tried gnome?
[11:37] <_Snake_> I installed ubuntu once, it was alright
[11:37] <_Snake_> I got off that quick tho
[11:37] <LjL> _Snake_: mind you, i prefer KDE myself, but i think one should make an informed choice
[11:42] <_Snake_> Yea I never really gave gnome a chance
[11:42] <_Snake_> But im pretty content with kde, and my friend was trying to get be on FreeBSD but I couldn't figure out that install for the life of me
[11:46] <LjL> _Snake_: anyway, when you get breezy installed, my advice is, first thing, do an upgrade
[11:46] <LjL> _Snake_: (no, you won't get 700mb downloaded this time)
[11:46] <_Snake_> I didnt know how to :)
[11:48] <LjL> _Snake_: "aptitude update" downloads the lists of packages; "aptitude dist-upgrade" does your upgrade
[11:48] <LjL> dunno how that's done in kynaptic of whatever, myself i just use aptitude
[11:48] <_Snake_> whats the diffrence between apt-get and aptitude?
[11:49] <LjL> well, for me, the main difference is that aptitude remember the dependencies it has installed automatically
[11:49] <LjL> so if you install package A that needs package B, and then later you want to remove package A, aptitude knows it should also remove package B
[11:49] <_Snake_> okay so aptitude is better?
[11:49] <LjL> apt-get doesn't (nor does kynaptic, i think, although synaptic is supposed to do it)
[11:49] <LjL> well, in a word... yeah
[11:50] <_Snake_> Ill probly go with synaptic anyway
[11:50] <LjL> the other big difference is that aptitude has a graphical interface (a *console* graphical interface, i mean), but i never used that one
[11:50] <LjL> if you just type "aptitude", you'll see the interface
[11:50] <_Snake_> Oh sweet! I dont like that CLI much, but I assume I have to befriend it to work with linux?
[11:50] <LjL> synaptic is good enough, i think
[11:50] <LjL> yeah, you definitely should
[11:51] <_Snake_> :-D thats what I figured
[11:51] <LjL> no matter how "ready for the desktop" people like to call linux, the console is still your very best friend
[11:51] <_Snake_> Yea
[11:51] <_Snake_> wtf. My download froze.
[11:51] <_Snake_> Grrrrrrrr
[11:51] <LjL> i hope you're using something that can resume downloads ;)
[11:52] <_Snake_> Nope.
[11:52] <_Snake_> Never paid much attention to those programs
[11:52] <_Snake_> I suppose now would be a good time tho :)
[11:52] <LjL> argh
[11:52] <LjL> just download wget =)
[11:53] <LjL> so you'll get used to it while you're on windows ;)
[11:53] <LjL> it's the "standard" way to do HTTP downloads on linux
[11:53] <LjL> (though of course, browsers can do HTTP downloads as well..)
[11:54] <_Snake_> I dig browsers :)
[11:54] <JeffAMcGee> just run "wget http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/wget/wget-1.9.tar.gz"
[11:54] <JeffAMcGee> never mind...
[11:54] <LjL> JeffAMcGee: :-P
[11:54] <_Snake_> lol
[11:54] <Niomi> i downloaded wget on windows.. i'm so terrible with CLI applications..
[11:54] <bobbyd> hi
[11:55] <Niomi> i hope i can get used to it eventually.
[11:55] <Niomi> hi bobbyd!
[11:55] <_Snake_> wtf how do I run wget..
[11:55] <_Snake_> whatever
[11:55] <_Snake_> fuck this, I just want breezy
[11:55] <_Snake_> lol
[11:55] <LjL> it's not something easy, but it definitely is something useful
[11:55] <LjL> _Snake_: well, if you're trying to use Explorer to download the 600mb it's made of, i'm not sure you'll obtain your goal ;)
[11:55] <bobbyd> when I try to encode to mpeg4 with transcode it gives me a this error: [transcode]  warning : (dl_loader.c) loading "/usr/lib/transcode/export_ffmpeg.so" failed.
[11:56] <bobbyd> I'm on breezy, does anyone know how to fix that?
[11:56] <LjL> _Snake_: use firefox at least, it can manager download a bit (though a *little* bit) better than explorer, and resumes easier
[11:56] <Hobbsee> _Snake_: language
[11:56] <_Snake_> I'm using firefox, and I did with knoppix, ubuntu, kubuntu, FreeBSD, (windows...) and gentoo :-D
[11:57] <LjL> _Snake_: well, i'm using Konqueror on KDE, it's good enough... i do like Firefox, but i just prefer to use KDE apps in KDE, and Konq isn't bad at all
[11:57] <_Snake_> Yea I like konqueror
[11:57] <chaoticgeek> time for food
[11:57] <_Snake_> Actually I like it a lot
[11:57] <LjL> _Snake_: the one thing i miss from Firefox are the extentions
[11:58] <_Snake_> I really dont use any, so thats not as bad
[11:59] <_Snake_> *yawn*
[12:01] <_Snake_> Hey anyone used Xfce (I think its called)
[12:01] <_Snake_> http://www.xfce.org/index.php