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| StrikeForce | how do I find out what flags are causing dpkg to finish compiling? | 12:25 |
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| StrikeForce | I've run the program using ./configure make and make install as per the rules script that gets put in there with dh_make however if I run it through dpackage with the cfflags it dies going through the compiling process? | 12:26 |
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| thierry | at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseDesktopFileAbsolutePath?action=show it is said "Also be sure to notify upstream/debian of the changes so they can fix the files aswell." How can I notify debian? | 12:37 |
| plugwash | if its to fix a bug i'd think a bugreport in thier bug tracking system would be the obvious way | 12:38 |
| plugwash | otherwise i'd think an e-mail to the maintainer | 12:38 |
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| thierry | plugwash : what is the adress of their bug tracking system? | 12:44 |
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| allee | thierry: use reportbug (pkg has same name) | 12:53 |
| allee | thierry: bugs.debian.org but you submit and manipulate via e-mail not webinterface | 12:54 |
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| magnon | ouch. I just thought of that I don't think I've had a proper dinner since Montreal :( | 01:01 |
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| dholbach | good night guys :) | 01:24 |
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| Kyral | a lot of lib updates....this Prelink took a long time | 02:14 |
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| shadeofgrey | hi everybody! | 03:09 |
| shadeofgrey | i dont belong here by any stretch ofthe imagination, but... i just wanted to say thanks for keeping up all the work you have to do that i certainly dont understand that makes my apt-get days bright, happy, and full of joy | 03:10 |
| Lathiat | :) | 03:10 |
| shadeofgrey | ...now quit dicking around and get to firefox 1.5 damnit | 03:10 |
| shadeofgrey | =) | 03:10 |
| shadeofgrey | ....please | 03:11 |
| shadeofgrey | ? | 03:11 |
| shadeofgrey | ill bribe you with liqiour and krispy kreme donuts | 03:11 |
| shadeofgrey | ...i know you coder kind love junk food | 03:11 |
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| shadeofgrey | ill grovel | 03:12 |
| shadeofgrey | i have no shame | 03:12 |
| tseng | please knock it off | 03:12 |
| shadeofgrey | okay but seriously -when do you think we'll be able to update to 1.5? | 03:13 |
| shadeofgrey | there are major improvements in that version... | 03:13 |
| tseng | when its ready | 03:13 |
| shadeofgrey | big time. | 03:13 |
| tseng | it takes hours to just build and test once | 03:13 |
| shadeofgrey | can you give me an estimate? | 03:13 |
| shadeofgrey | hmm.. | 03:13 |
| tseng | and there are tons of packages against a huge source tree | 03:13 |
| shadeofgrey | well | 03:13 |
| tseng | s/packages/patches | 03:13 |
| shadeofgrey | is there any way i can help you? | 03:13 |
| SEJeff | shadeofgrey: I can't talk tonight, I'm studying for my test tomorrow | 03:13 |
| tseng | see the thread on ubuntu-devel mailing list | 03:13 |
| shadeofgrey | okay. | 03:14 |
| shadeofgrey | ill leave now | 03:14 |
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| jianggw | Is the leader of each team appointed by community council or self-appointed? | 03:22 |
| tseng | depends on your definition of team | 03:22 |
| zakame | hi all | 03:22 |
| zakame | jianggw, are you the Victor yesterday? | 03:23 |
| tseng | jianggw: members of the ubuntu-development team on launchpad are appointed by CC | 03:23 |
| tseng | er, ubuntu-members | 03:23 |
| tseng | ubuntu-dev is by TB | 03:23 |
| tseng | and ubuntu-core-dev | 03:23 |
| tseng | other teams in the Launchpad sense are free to be created by anyone | 03:24 |
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| tseng | whiprush_: 313773! | 03:24 |
| zakame | hihi | 03:24 |
| tseng | ONEONEONE | 03:24 |
| zakame | tseng, is tseng.ath.cx up? :) I was roaring to read your dpatch howto ;) | 03:25 |
| jianggw | tseng:thanks!You are right.It is me!how do you know it? | 03:25 |
| tseng | jianggw: wrong nick | 03:25 |
| tseng | zakame: no | 03:25 |
| tseng | zakame: it is anticlimactic anyway | 03:25 |
| zakame | ah | 03:26 |
| zakame | jianggw, via the logs, and a /whois :) | 03:26 |
| tseng | sigh, evolution | 03:27 |
| jianggw | ubuntu-dev and ubuntu-development are different teams? | 03:27 |
| tseng | erm | 03:27 |
| tseng | i take liberties to not fully expand easily comprehensible words | 03:28 |
| jianggw | in the webpage http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/council,it wrote:The Chairman of the Community Council is yet to be determined.Isn't sabdfl the chairman? | 03:30 |
| jianggw | http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=3590&d=1132034495 is a structure chart of community drawn by me.Is it correct? | 03:32 |
| Kyral | Now this is embarrassing | 03:34 |
| jianggw | Kyral:why??? | 03:34 |
| Kyral | Some guy who I helped IM'd me saying he hopes he can one day help people with Linux like I do | 03:34 |
| zakame | Kyral, wow | 03:35 |
| Kyral | Some days I wonder why I try so hard and then this happens I have my answer | 03:36 |
| zakame | hmmm, maybe a stupid question, but is backporting a NEW package from dapper to breezy sane? :p | 03:37 |
| jianggw | Would you please help me point out the mistake in the diagram?So I can improve it. | 03:37 |
| Kyral | depends on the package :D | 03:37 |
| zakame | it's lighttpd, not yet even in revu... I just got an email about it, asking that question... | 03:40 |
| tseng | its in revu | 03:40 |
| zakame | yes but that's not mine, and its broken | 03:41 |
| zakame | basically just a run of upstream's ./debian | 03:42 |
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| zakame | motus: can you please check Malone #4089 debdiff if its ok and ready for build-to-upload? thanks :) | 04:17 |
| Ubugtu` | Error: Could not parse XML returned by Malone bugzilla: Connection to Malone bugzilla failed: HTTP Error 404: Not Found | 04:17 |
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| DrBair | I'm looking to get involved with development, I've created a launchpad account and signed the agreement and everything, I'm just not sure where exactly to go from here. | 05:14 |
| bmonty_laptop | DrBair: you can work on merges or bug fixing | 05:14 |
| DrBair | is that something I need to become a member for first? | 05:18 |
| crimsun | nope. You can work and attach debdiffs to the malone bugs | 05:20 |
| bmonty_laptop | not really, you can work on packages and ask someone to sponsor their upload for you, that is what I do | 05:20 |
| bmonty_laptop | crimsun is helpful in doing that :) | 05:20 |
| bmonty_laptop | DrBair: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerge | 05:21 |
| DrBair | sounds good, I'll be sure to rip into that tomorrow | 05:22 |
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| bmonty_laptop | two more packages and all of the packages that start with b are merged (minus bzr, I'm not touching that) | 05:51 |
| crimsun | bmonty_laptop: great! I'll look in a bit. | 06:18 |
| bmonty_laptop | crimsun: they are all syncs | 06:18 |
| crimsun | bmonty_laptop: k | 06:18 |
| bmonty_laptop | I want to get merges under 500 packages tonight :) | 06:22 |
| bmonty_laptop | crimsun: malone #4509 has a debdiff for upload | 06:34 |
| Ubugtu` | Malone bug #4509: burn: merge new debian version Fix req. for: burn (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Merge Team, Status: PendingUpload http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/4509 | 06:34 |
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| zakame | hi Burgundavia | 08:41 |
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| hunger | Good morning. | 08:48 |
| === hunger thinks he figured out the python issue yesterday evening, using python-apt as an example. | ||
| zakame | hi hunger , wtg! | 08:49 |
| Burgundavia | salut zakame | 08:49 |
| hunger | zakame: wtg? | 08:51 |
| hunger | Burgundavia: hiho. | 08:51 |
| zakame | hunger: way to go :) | 08:52 |
| Burgundavia | hey hunger | 08:52 |
| hunger | zakame: Oh, yes... but only adapting a couple of scripts is left to do I think(/hope). | 08:52 |
| zakame | hunger: cool! | 08:52 |
| hunger | Damn SuSE specific stuff:-) | 08:53 |
| polpak | how long does it normally take to get a backport request filled? (just curious) | 08:54 |
| siretart | morning | 08:57 |
| hunger | siretart: morning. | 08:57 |
| siretart | huhu tobias! | 08:58 |
| zakame | hi siretart ! :) | 08:58 |
| Burgundavia | polpak, a variable amount of time. When did you file the request and what was it for/ | 09:00 |
| polpak | Burgundavia, I filed it yesterday.. It was for ogre, a truely sweet 3d rendering engine | 09:00 |
| polpak | I'm wanting to do some game development with it | 09:00 |
| Burgundavia | polpak, likely at least a few days | 09:01 |
| Burgundavia | polpak, if not longer | 09:01 |
| polpak | Burgundavia, ok. I figured as much | 09:01 |
| polpak | Burgundavia, thx | 09:01 |
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| zakame | hi Seveas , slomo ! | 09:09 |
| slomo | hi zakame | 09:10 |
| slomo | zakame: you can sync gpsd... i was a bit confused ;) | 09:10 |
| slomo | the dbus changes are upstream iirc | 09:10 |
| zakame | slomo: I did some small changes though :) anyway, it built fine, and gtkpbbuttons too :) | 09:11 |
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| SloMoSnail | zakame: did you read what i've said about gpsd? | 09:14 |
| zakame | SloMoSnail: yep | 09:14 |
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| SloMoSnail | zakame: or the dbus patch isn't upstream? hmm, please test | 09:17 |
| zakame | SloMoSnail: checking it again, it seems the dbus isn't in upstream | 09:18 |
| SloMoSnail | zakame: yes... hmm, then it was another package... please don't sync but merge then ;) | 09:18 |
| zakame | SloMoSnail: ok, it already is currently as `to be merged', PendingUpload ;) | 09:19 |
| SloMoSnail | zakame: oh, you have a merged diff? url please and i send it up :) | 09:19 |
| zakame | SloMoSnail: http://librarian.launchpad.net/1183186/gpsd_2.28-2ubuntu1.debdiff | 09:20 |
| SloMoSnail | zakame: ah, gtkpbbuttons... is the common package still all? or powerpc? | 09:21 |
| zakame | SloMoSnail: powerpc it seems... can't build in x86 | 09:21 |
| SloMoSnail | zakame: really? then it's safe to sync from debian | 09:21 |
| zakame | SloMoSnail: yup :) | 09:21 |
| SloMoSnail | zakame: i ask because i changed it before for us... same for the dbus stuff in gpsd ;) | 09:21 |
| SloMoSnail | against what version is your debdiff? | 09:22 |
| zakame | SloMoSnail: yeah, I've seen it in the changelog | 09:22 |
| SloMoSnail | ok, i'll upload it later... bbl | 09:25 |
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| Victorjiang | what is the difference between ubuntu,kubuntu and edubuntu? | 09:27 |
| zakame | wb Victorjiang | 09:28 |
| zakame | Victorjiang: is this for a school project? :) | 09:31 |
| siretart | Victorjiang: they are derivatives, but share the same repositories. the only in the installer | 09:32 |
| chip1 | any luck with ubuntu-lite? | 09:33 |
| Victorjiang | thanks | 09:34 |
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| Victorjiang | siretart:installer?Do you mean the only difference is that kubuntu with kde and ubuntu with gnome? | 09:36 |
| siretart | Victorjiang: basically, yes | 09:36 |
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| zakame | wb dholbach | 09:43 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 09:45 |
| zakame | dang ion3 has such a heavyweight build-deps | 09:46 |
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| viviersf | ajmitch, soz for OT question, but do you know what michael machs nick is ? | 09:47 |
| dholbach | hi Tonio_, zakame | 09:48 |
| viviersf | dholbach, do you know by any chance ? | 09:51 |
| hunger | Is there a policy on when to use which log_*_msg? | 09:51 |
| dholbach | michal mach?, no sorry | 09:51 |
| viviersf | :/ | 09:51 |
| viviersf | thx nways | 09:51 |
| viviersf | dholbach, he was the polish dude at ubz | 09:52 |
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| dholbach | viviersf: i know, i met him :) | 09:54 |
| dholbach | but i don't know his nick, sorry :( | 09:54 |
| hunger | Can I split Depends: over multiple lines? | 09:56 |
| zakame | hunger: lintian will warn you about it | 09:56 |
| hunger | zakame: OK, then I'll not do that. | 09:57 |
| hunger | zakame: Thanks. | 09:57 |
| zakame | hunger: no problem :-) | 09:57 |
| viviersf | arg i hate it when you find a new app | 09:58 |
| viviersf | try to compile it | 09:58 |
| viviersf | and the configure script is totally wasted | 09:58 |
| zakame | hihi | 09:59 |
| zakame | have you tried upgrading the autotools? | 10:00 |
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| viviersf | nah zakame | 10:02 |
| viviersf | this package just make a small configure script | 10:02 |
| viviersf | its just it doesnt work | 10:02 |
| viviersf | then also | 10:02 |
| viviersf | they release source with invalid code | 10:02 |
| viviersf | there aint a file like "qlist.h" | 10:03 |
| viviersf | its qlistbox.h | 10:03 |
| viviersf | :/ | 10:03 |
| zakame | hmm, seems that the ./configure or Makefile is very old | 10:03 |
| viviersf | how can the ./configure make problems with physical code in other files | 10:04 |
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| viviersf | wghahaha | 10:07 |
| viviersf | i tell the dude next to me to apt-get apache | 10:07 |
| viviersf | so he picks up the bloody phone | 10:07 |
| viviersf | :/ | 10:07 |
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| StrikeForce | where do I lodge bug reports for dapper? | 10:24 |
| StrikeForce | anyone? | 10:25 |
| siretart | StrikeForce: probably malone | 10:25 |
| StrikeForce | siretart, is coreutils part of main? | 10:26 |
| siretart | sure | 10:26 |
| siretart | -> bugzilla :) | 10:26 |
| StrikeForce | sweet no worries? | 10:26 |
| siretart | I worry that bugzilla may be incredibly slow | 10:26 |
| StrikeForce | siretart, off topic but I registered in bugzilla and added my gpg key and signed the agreement? | 10:27 |
| StrikeForce | what else do I need to do to become a member? | 10:27 |
| siretart | StrikeForce: what is your lp id? | 10:27 |
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| StrikeForce | MarcWiriadisastra | 10:27 |
| StrikeForce | I'd like to become and MOTU | 10:28 |
| siretart | StrikeForce: you need to register with launchpad | 10:28 |
| StrikeForce | I have | 10:28 |
| StrikeForce | sorry strikeforce | 10:28 |
| StrikeForce | I signed it yesterday | 10:28 |
| StrikeForce | https://launchpad.net/people/strikeforce | 10:29 |
| siretart | okay. then apply for the https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntumembers team | 10:29 |
| siretart | and try to attend the next CommunityCouncil | 10:29 |
| StrikeForce | thanks :) | 10:29 |
| siretart | we were thinking about changing this procedure a bit, but AFAIK we did not decide yet, so I'm telling you the procedures that I think that are valid :) | 10:30 |
| sivang | MOrning all | 10:31 |
| StrikeForce | siretart, I've just clicked on join the team | 10:31 |
| StrikeForce | siretart, are the meetings weekly? | 10:33 |
| siretart | I think biweekly | 10:33 |
| raphink | siretart: did you have a look at my key ? I've got several packages to upload ... | 10:34 |
| StrikeForce | sweet ok now what time is UTC to GMT? | 10:34 |
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| siretart | raphink: done :) | 10:36 |
| raphink | argh | 10:38 |
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| siretart | Mono 1.1.10 released! :) | 10:40 |
| StrikeForce | siretart, do we have to wait for mono to be packaged for debian? | 10:41 |
| StrikeForce | or do we package it ourselves for ubuntu? | 10:42 |
| siretart | StrikeForce: ask tseng | 10:42 |
| StrikeForce | oh ok | 10:42 |
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| Nafallo | someone c++-sawy might want to take a look at the tse3-merge :-) | 10:56 |
| raphink | when running debuild on a package, I get errors from tar -xkf : | 11:02 |
| raphink | tar: kyamo/admin/acinclude.m4.in: Cannot open: File exists | 11:02 |
| raphink | tar: kyamo/admin/Doxyfile.am: Cannot open: File exists | 11:02 |
| raphink | tar: kyamo/admin/libtool.m4.in: Cannot open: File exists | 11:02 |
| raphink | and debuild exists with an status 2 | 11:02 |
| siretart | raphink: did you try in pbuilder? | 11:03 |
| raphink | I need to build the source package first | 11:03 |
| raphink | I have no dsc yet | 11:03 |
| raphink | it used to build fine | 11:03 |
| siretart | oh | 11:03 |
| siretart | strange | 11:03 |
| raphink | but I just switched by rules to cdbs | 11:03 |
| raphink | it worked fine with a classic rules | 11:03 |
| siretart | cdbs is sometime quite unobvious | 11:03 |
| raphink | :s | 11:04 |
| raphink | yep | 11:04 |
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| raphink | I just included debhelper.mk | 11:04 |
| raphink | hehe ;) | 11:04 |
| siretart | I'm using it for my 2 debian packages, though.. | 11:05 |
| raphink | oh maybe I need autotools too | 11:06 |
| raphink | I'll see | 11:07 |
| raphink | hmm no :( | 11:07 |
| raphink | is there anything special to add when a package is using automake ? | 11:10 |
| raphink | apart from adding automake to the build deps | 11:10 |
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| pef | hello | 12:50 |
| siretart | hi pef | 12:51 |
| pef | hello siretart :) | 12:51 |
| pef | How breezy-updates works ? is it only for security fixes ? | 12:55 |
| tseng | major bugfixes | 12:56 |
| tseng | they have to be obvious fixes, no large complicated patch | 12:56 |
| pef | tseng: ok, and who should I contact ? | 12:58 |
| tseng | mdz | 12:59 |
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| juliux | hi | 01:23 |
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| raphink | I'm having a pb with tar in the creation of the source target | 01:45 |
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| raphink | because it uses the -k option which crashes | 01:45 |
| raphink | dpkg-source: failure: tar -xkf - gave error exit status 2 | 01:45 |
| raphink | tar: kyamo/admin/acinclude.m4.in: Cannot open: File exists | 01:45 |
| raphink | tar: kyamo/admin/Doxyfile.am: Cannot open: File exists | 01:45 |
| raphink | tar: kyamo/admin/libtool.m4.in: Cannot open: File exists | 01:45 |
| raphink | tar: Read 2048 bytes from - | 01:45 |
| raphink | tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors | 01:45 |
| raphink | debuild: fatal error at line 765: | 01:46 |
| raphink | dpkg-buildpackage failed! | 01:46 |
| raphink | any way I could set that? | 01:46 |
| janimo | REVU needed and appreciated for thunar file manager, thanks | 01:46 |
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| lucas | siretart: have you started working on a package ? | 02:07 |
| lucas | if not, I'd like to work on this | 02:08 |
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| pmjdebruijn | lo all | 02:10 |
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| xerxas | is there any plan for transition to initng for dapper ? | 02:14 |
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| dholbach | xerxas: discussion was on ubuntu-devel@ | 02:14 |
| dholbach | several times | 02:14 |
| dholbach | initng is considered to be immature | 02:15 |
| dholbach | and since dapper will be supported for 5 years on the server, i'd say no | 02:15 |
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| Amaranth | dapper+1 will probably be the first to see a new init system | 02:15 |
| lucas | I remember reading sthing about a server for MOTUs | 02:16 |
| lucas | where they have an account and can run scripts | 02:16 |
| lucas | ah that's revu.tauware.de | 02:17 |
| siretart | lucas: on what package? | 02:20 |
| lucas | motu-tools | 02:20 |
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| siretart | lucas: not yet, I'm still polishing some tools there | 02:20 |
| lucas | I mean packaging + daily builds | 02:20 |
| zakame | hello again :D | 02:20 |
| xerxas | dholbach: initng is considered immature because it's to young ? | 02:21 |
| siretart | lucas: commit the package, let me merge your branch, and then lets think how to make daily builds | 02:21 |
| siretart | commit your packaging, that is | 02:21 |
| dholbach | xerxas: i have never investigated it, but i heard quite a lot of people referring to it as a hack *shrug* i suggest you read the thread on ubuntu-devel@ - should be in the bootchart thread as well | 02:22 |
| pmjdebruijn | xerxas, init is a major piece of your environment, even the slightest doubt should prevent it from being included into dapper | 02:22 |
| zakame | Nafallo: my thanks again :) | 02:23 |
| xerxas | if noone includes it, it won't never be mature | 02:23 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 02:23 |
| xerxas | but maybe it's not ubuntu's job | 02:23 |
| zakame | xerxas: what's up with init-ng? | 02:23 |
| Nafallo | xerxas: it's not ubuntus job in the release they will support for 5 years, no. | 02:24 |
| Nafallo | 1.5 is bad enough. | 02:24 |
| xerxas | that's a a good point :) | 02:24 |
| raphink | anyone has got an idea about why my package will build using the -k option in tar when using cdbs and not when using a classic rules ? | 02:25 |
| lucas | siretart: I haven't worked on packaging yet | 02:31 |
| siretart | lucas: I'd suggest using simple debhelper magic | 02:32 |
| lucas | I'll work on this tonight | 02:32 |
| lucas | what's required to get an account on revu.tauware.de ? | 02:33 |
| lucas | is it a public system ? | 02:33 |
| lucas | (or is there a public system for MOTUs ?) | 02:33 |
| Amaranth | i think it uses your signed key | 02:34 |
| siretart | lucas: we agreed that every motu can apply for an account on tiber | 02:34 |
| lucas | ok | 02:35 |
| lucas | and how do one become a motu ? :) | 02:35 |
| zakame | wow, a motu-tools package! | 02:35 |
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| Amaranth | lucas: become an ubuntu member, start getting some packages sponsored for upload, get your key signed by someone that gets you to ogra's key | 02:36 |
| Amaranth | so those in any order :P | 02:36 |
| Amaranth | err, do | 02:36 |
| xerxas | lucas: start by helping, packaging, fixing bugs ( and genrate a gpg key) | 02:36 |
| ogra_ | (and get is signed ) ;) | 02:36 |
| ogra_ | s/is/it | 02:37 |
| raphink | what is ogra's key Amaranth ? | 02:37 |
| raphink | I mean what's the reference of it? | 02:37 |
| Amaranth | ask him | 02:37 |
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| ogra_ | http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/mk_path.cgi?STAT=A2D06936&STATS=statistics | 02:37 |
| ogra_ | try that url | 02:37 |
| raphink | or rather ogra what 'syour key? | 02:37 |
| lucas | well my key has been in the strongly connected set for 4 or 5 years I think ;) | 02:37 |
| raphink | ok | 02:37 |
| raphink | thanks | 02:37 |
| ogra_ | if you get *any* kind of connection between your and my key, you should be fine | 02:37 |
| Amaranth | lucas: can you get a path from yours to ogra's? | 02:37 |
| lucas | Amaranth: *strongly connected set* ;) | 02:38 |
| siretart | lucas: what is your lp id? | 02:38 |
| raphink | ogra_: http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/mk_path.cgi?FROM=A2D06936&TO=74BF771E&PATHS=trust+paths | 02:38 |
| raphink | is that fine for you ? :D | 02:38 |
| ogra_ | Amaranth, if he'S in the strong set :) | 02:38 |
| lucas | siretart: LNussbaum | 02:38 |
| lucas | http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/mk_path.cgi?FROM=A2D06936&TO=023B3F4F&PATHS=trust+paths | 02:38 |
| ogra_ | raphink, looks good :) | 02:38 |
| raphink | :) | 02:38 |
| siretart | lucas: no, your launchpad id, that has to bee all lowercase | 02:38 |
| xerxas | can anybody point me to things to do ? | 02:38 |
| xerxas | (I didn't find bug I want to investigate on) | 02:39 |
| Nafallo | xerxas: /topic | 02:39 |
| xerxas | bugs | 02:39 |
| ogra_ | xerxas, there is a MotuToMerge page ... | 02:39 |
| ogra_ | start with this one | 02:39 |
| siretart | lucas: never mind, found it | 02:39 |
| lucas | ah | 02:39 |
| zakame | ogra_: how about my key, is it okay? :) http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/mk_path.cgi?STAT=FA53851D&STATS=statistics | 02:40 |
| ogra_ | zakame, absolutely | 02:41 |
| xerxas | ogra_: do you understand this page ? | 02:43 |
| zakame | ogra_: wow, thanks :) | 02:43 |
| xerxas | this means for example that aatv is to be repackaged ? | 02:43 |
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| xerxas | in http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/LOGS/mom.20051107.log aatv seems to have a 404 error | 02:43 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 02:44 |
| zakame | xerxas: yes, some of the pkgs there have that | 02:44 |
| xerxas | zakame: these are packages that I can package ? | 02:45 |
| zakame | hi sistpoty , how do you do? :) | 02:45 |
| sistpoty | hi zakame, I'm fine, thx ;) | 02:46 |
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| zakame | xerxas: no, they're already packaged ;) but (motus, please correct my if i'm wrogn ;) if such a pkg needs any change, work on that and tell the motus about it, preferably in debdiff form :) | 02:47 |
| xerxas | zakame: so I don't understand the purpose of this file | 02:48 |
| xerxas | I can tell a motu or report a bug for any package | 02:48 |
| xerxas | not the ones that have 404 errors | 02:48 |
| ogra_ | http://revu.tauware.de/~sistpoty/MoM/index.py?state=new | 02:49 |
| ogra_ | that might be a better ressource | 02:49 |
| zakame | xerxas: the mom log is raw, ogra_ 's pointer is the better resource :) | 02:49 |
| zakame | xerxas: though if you are actually doing a merge, the raw log will be useful as it tells you where to get source pkgs for both debian and merged | 02:50 |
| xerxas | humm | 02:50 |
| xerxas | still don't understand where there's work to do | 02:51 |
| xerxas | can I try to repackage mono 1.1.10 ? | 02:51 |
| xerxas | and then beagke 0.12 ? | 02:51 |
| pmjdebruijn | xerxas, has already been released? | 02:51 |
| xerxas | yes | 02:52 |
| xerxas | yesterday or so | 02:52 |
| ogra_ | xerxas, you should talk to the mono team for mono stuff (tseng and slomo for example) | 02:52 |
| ogra_ | mono is far more than just repackaging ... you have to know in which order the packages need to be built ... | 02:53 |
| raphink | what does merging exctly consist in? | 02:53 |
| pmjdebruijn | xerxas, cool | 02:53 |
| ogra_ | (if i understood right you dont have to boostrap the compiler aanymore, but it still needs decent knowledge about the packages) | 02:53 |
| dholbach | raphink: making sure that no changes either on debian/ubuntu side are dropped | 02:54 |
| raphink | hmmm | 02:54 |
| ogra_ | raphink, merging means we did a change to a package in breezy... | 02:54 |
| pmjdebruijn | xerxas, on the subject of mono | 02:54 |
| ogra_ | now debian has a new version with or without adopting these changes | 02:54 |
| pmjdebruijn | xerxas, could you take a look at this: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mono/+bug/4531 | 02:54 |
| Ubugtu` | Malone bug #4531: Newer MonoDevelop doesn't work properly Fix req. for: mono (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Mono Team, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/4531 | 02:54 |
| xerxas | ogra_: ok mono will probably be too hard for me | 02:54 |
| raphink | hmm ok | 02:54 |
| xerxas | that is what I was thinking | 02:55 |
| xerxas | ogra_ for exemple gnome-gpg is to be repackaged for dapper ? | 02:55 |
| ogra_ | we have to decide is the changes are still needed and reapply them if this is the case ... else we'll drop them and just sync the debian package | 02:55 |
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| ogra_ | thats the core of so called merging :) | 02:55 |
| xerxas | pmjdebruijn: looking at the link | 02:56 |
| xerxas | ogra_ so for exemple for gnome-gpg I need to look at the patches and try to know if I can remove some parts of it ? | 02:56 |
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| zakame | wb highvoltage | 02:57 |
| ogra_ | xerxas, exactly | 02:57 |
| highvoltage | zakame: thanks. connected through cell phone. internet connection very dodgy | 02:58 |
| zakame | highvoltage: wow, I haven't tried that before :) | 02:59 |
| highvoltage | my phone has a usb cable, all i need to do is plug it into laptop, and dial *99# :) | 02:59 |
| pmjdebruijn | xerxas, it's basically a small bugfix which will allow MonoDevelop 0.8 to run on Breezy without doing a major mono update | 03:00 |
| zakame | highvoltage: hmmm, I should try that sometime... when I get a cellphone ;) | 03:02 |
| highvoltage | :) | 03:04 |
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| \sh | ogra: ping is it snowing at your place` | 03:24 |
| \sh | ? | 03:24 |
| ogra | nope | 03:24 |
| ogra | only raining | 03:24 |
| azeem | whoops, it's indeed raining here as well | 03:24 |
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| Nafallo | neither here :_) | 03:24 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 03:24 |
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| sistpoty | hey \sh, can you upload a package to universe for me? | 03:27 |
| \sh | sistpoty: sure i can.... | 03:29 |
| sistpoty | cool... it's on tiber at /home/sistpoty/public_html/uploads (ghc6) | 03:29 |
| \sh | uahhhh | 03:29 |
| sistpoty | I hope that elmo will add me to the keyring soon *g* | 03:29 |
| ogra | sistpoty, since when are you approved as motu ? i think its about time he gets it done | 03:30 |
| sistpoty | ogra: quite some time... but I only mailed him last friday, since I didn't have anything to upload before that day | 03:31 |
| \sh | well...it takes time now...only 29kB | 03:31 |
| ogra | sistpoty, fine then :) | 03:31 |
| sistpoty | ' \sh: can't you directly ul from tiber? | 03:31 |
| hunger | \sh: Fixed the python stuff according to your suggestions from yesterday. | 03:31 |
| hunger | \sh: Thanks again for your help. | 03:31 |
| \sh | sistpoty: no | 03:32 |
| sistpoty | sh: ah, k | 03:32 |
| sistpoty | + \ | 03:32 |
| sistpoty | ;) | 03:32 |
| \sh | sistpoty: source upload? | 03:32 |
| \sh | hunger: is it working? | 03:32 |
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| sistpoty | ' \sh: I'll check, but imo yes | 03:33 |
| sistpoty | ' \sh: yes, new upstream version | 03:33 |
| hunger | \sh: I do hope so:-) | 03:34 |
| \sh | sistpoty: k | 03:34 |
| sistpoty | thx, \sh | 03:34 |
| hunger | \sh: Not really got around to test it yet (only just booted up the test machine). | 03:34 |
| \sh | hunger: i mean is lintian complaining again, or is it just still :) | 03:34 |
| \sh | s/still/silent/ | 03:34 |
| hunger | \sh: Lintian is quiet. | 03:35 |
| hunger | \sh: I made python-xen arch any the last time round. | 03:35 |
| hunger | \sh: s/any/all/ | 03:35 |
| hunger | \sh: It is any now, lintian has no more problem. | 03:35 |
| hunger | Is there a simple way to check which other debs a deb depends on? | 03:37 |
| \sh | apt-cache depends <package>? | 03:39 |
| \sh | sistpoty: u should get now a katie mail | 03:39 |
| sistpoty | cool, thx \sh | 03:39 |
| hunger | \sh: I do not have a apt repository for my stuff. | 03:39 |
| slomo_ | xerxas: no need to do beagle 1.1.2 and mono 1.1.10... 1.1.10 is almost ready and i bet tseng will care for beagle ;) but you can ask him if you could take some work from him | 03:40 |
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| hunger | Hmmm... any idea why my Depends: lines get ignored? | 03:41 |
| hunger | Stupid me... because I have typos in them. | 03:42 |
| ogra | <hunger> \sh: I made python-xen arch any the last time round. | 03:46 |
| ogra | <hunger> \sh: s/any/all/ | 03:46 |
| ogra | <hunger> \sh: It is any now, lintian has no more problem. | 03:46 |
| ogra | does it nee to be "any" ? | 03:47 |
| ogra | i mean its only python bindings, right ? | 03:47 |
| slomo_ | xerxas: but if you're interested in mono stuff consider joining #ubuntu-mono :) | 03:47 |
| slomo_ | sistpoty: yay, ghc6 merged :) | 03:48 |
| sistpoty | slomo_: :)... but this will lead to at least one FTBFS (hmake)... but I've already got a patch :) | 03:48 |
| slomo_ | sistpoty: then fix it ;) | 03:48 |
| slomo_ | sistpoty: i'll get my hands on cabal later :) after doing some too simple analysis exercises ;) | 03:49 |
| sistpoty | slomo_: kk :)... hf with math. with hmake, I'll wait for ghc6 being built. If we're lucky, we might have a newer debian version then as well | 03:50 |
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| slomo_ | sistpoty: so we can just sync? perfect :) you work with the debian guys on that? | 03:51 |
| siretart | sistpoty: I was just uploading it to ubuntu, but I've seen ubuntu-changes earlier | 03:52 |
| slomo_ | siretart: ? | 03:52 |
| xerxas | slomo_ ok | 03:52 |
| xerxas | thanks | 03:52 |
| siretart | I mean ghc6 | 03:52 |
| sistpoty | slomo_: i filed a patch in BTS... ;) | 03:53 |
| hunger | \sh: It does work! OK, I actually exchanged "Depends:" with "Conflicts:" which did wreak some havok with my installed stuff, but that's a minor glitch;-) | 03:55 |
| raphink | I'm trying to understand how to log in on REVU | 03:55 |
| raphink | I uploaded some packages | 03:55 |
| hunger | raphink: Go to the page. | 03:55 |
| raphink | I clicked on recover | 03:55 |
| raphink | and it's giving me an encrypted message | 03:56 |
| hunger | raphink: Enter your email and click on the "recover" link | 03:56 |
| raphink | I decoded this message | 03:56 |
| raphink | hunger: that's what I did | 03:56 |
| hunger | raphink: Decrypt the message: Voila your passwd. | 03:56 |
| raphink | nope hunger | 03:56 |
| raphink | not voil my passwd | 03:56 |
| raphink | that's the pb | 03:56 |
| raphink | the passwd it gives me doesn't work | 03:57 |
| hunger | raphink: What is in the file? Just a short rundom bunch of letters/numbers? | 03:57 |
| raphink | nope hunger | 03:57 |
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| sistpoty | hunger: what's the email-addy you use for revu (the one you signed packages you uploaded to revu)? | 03:59 |
| raphink | hunger: PM | 03:59 |
| sistpoty | erm... raphink even ;) | 04:00 |
| raphink | sistpoty: I use raphink@raphink.net to sign my packages | 04:00 |
| raphink | but I sent my request to join the keyring from raphink@gmail.com | 04:00 |
| raphink | the key contains both adds | 04:00 |
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| hunger | sistpoty: The one I give in debian/changelog. | 04:04 |
| hunger | raphink: PM? | 04:04 |
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| raphink | nm hunger | 04:04 |
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| sistpoty | hunger: I meant raphink, sorry | 04:06 |
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| Riddell | siretart: could REVU handle UniverseCandidates? | 04:17 |
| siretart | Riddell: what do you exactly mean with that? | 04:18 |
| ogra | Riddell, didnt we talk about RT for UniverseCandidates ? | 04:18 |
| Riddell | ogra: RT? | 04:18 |
| siretart | ogra: RT? | 04:18 |
| Riddell | siretart: just that it's a large database which might be nicer in a database rather than a big wiki page | 04:19 |
| ogra | request tracker | 04:19 |
| ogra | a oss ticket system ... | 04:19 |
| siretart | ogra: canonical rt or an extra rt for universe? | 04:19 |
| ogra | we talked about it in serveral motu meetings | 04:19 |
| siretart | ogra: do you have experience with installing and maintaining a rt setup? | 04:20 |
| ogra | siretart, since the traffic wont be much i thought we could have it on tiber ? | 04:20 |
| ogra | nope, but its easy, i sadly havent got the time for much universe work ... | 04:20 |
| siretart | well, I had a look at that a few years ago | 04:21 |
| siretart | if someone feels like seting one up on tiber, I don't mind | 04:21 |
| siretart | Riddell: now I understand. I think that should make much trouble in revu2, but I'm still at fiddling with the ground work for revu2 | 04:22 |
| siretart | Riddell: I'm not going to invest much time and energy in the old revu1 codebase | 04:22 |
| Riddell | no, it would be for revu 2 | 04:22 |
| siretart | for revu2, that is a good suggestions. thanks | 04:23 |
| Riddell | revu 2 should have tags for different teams, so I can see only Kubuntu related packages | 04:23 |
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| siretart | hm | 04:23 |
| siretart | tagging.. hmmhmm | 04:24 |
| siretart | how should that work? maintaining an override database? | 04:24 |
| siretart | or let the users tag their packages? | 04:24 |
| ogra | and how do you manage overlaps ? | 04:24 |
| ogra | i.e. kdeedu is edubuntu as well as kubuntu | 04:25 |
| siretart | not at all? ;) | 04:25 |
| siretart | honestly, I did not plan to have 'tags' on uploads. but the new ui will make the process more clear and efficent anyway, so I don't think there would be a need for that | 04:26 |
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| Riddell | siretart: just tag through the web interface, multiple tags can be selected for kubuntu and edubuntu etc | 04:29 |
| sistpoty | Riddell, siretart: tagging is not an initial plan... and actually I don't want to overload revu2 with features at this moment... | 04:31 |
| siretart | sistpoty: right | 04:31 |
| sistpoty | Riddell: once revu2 is actually working, we can still (and much easier than with revu1's codebase) add such things | 04:31 |
| Riddell | aye | 04:31 |
| siretart | it shouldn't be that hard to extend the database to hold those tags | 04:31 |
| sistpoty | I don't think so ;) | 04:32 |
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| [splinux] | hi all | 04:33 |
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| siretart | hi jdong_ | 04:35 |
| jdong_ | hey | 04:35 |
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| jdong_ | Any timeline for FreeNX/Universe? | 04:39 |
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| ogra | jdong_, dunno if Mithrandir still cares for it ... | 04:40 |
| jdong_ | I was told that a FreeNX god joined MOTU at UBZ.... | 04:40 |
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| jdong_ | this morning on ubuntu-backports | 04:40 |
| ogra | yes ... | 04:41 |
| jdong_ | so is he gonna accelerate the process of FreeNX in MOTU? | 04:41 |
| ogra | i would rather call him a NX Contributor, dunno about his god status :) | 04:41 |
| jdong_ | lol, whatever :) | 04:41 |
| jdong_ | more godly than me | 04:41 |
| jdong_ | (though that isn't hard to do) | 04:41 |
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| geekitus | hi all | 04:45 |
| zakame | hmm, setting --build= and --host= to i486-pc-linux-gnu is bogging down my i686 machine :/ | 04:45 |
| jdong_ | really? | 04:46 |
| zakame | yes, building libcommoncpp2 here is taking ages with that... just modified debian/rules to build without setting those opts, now builds FAST | 04:46 |
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| siretart | lucas: progress on packaging? | 04:58 |
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| lucas | no, still in the lab | 05:03 |
| lucas | I'll work on this tonight | 05:03 |
| lucas | [17:03:19] here | 05:03 |
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| siretart | oh. okay | 05:07 |
| siretart | same for me | 05:08 |
| siretart | germany and france share the same timezone ;) | 05:08 |
| zakame | can somebody please check Malone #4093 , libcommoncpp2 merge? thanks in advance :) | 05:11 |
| Ubugtu` | Error: Could not parse XML returned by Malone bugzilla: Connection to Malone bugzilla failed: HTTP Error 404: Not Found | 05:11 |
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| Nafallo | zakame: yes | 05:16 |
| Nafallo | zakame: could you please merge the changelog aswell? | 05:16 |
| zakame | Nafallo: hmm, seems I need to edit the changelog a bit, there was some duplication | 05:18 |
| Nafallo | zakame: rather you didn't put in the ubuntu changes in the right order :-) | 05:18 |
| Nafallo | zakame: baah, I can do it btw. | 05:19 |
| zakame | Nafallo: yes, but actually it's already there in the earlier merge, prolly in debian.patch | 05:19 |
| Nafallo | one of them yes. | 05:21 |
| Nafallo | anyway, I fixed the changelog :-) | 05:22 |
| Nafallo | giving it to pbuilder to chew on now :-) | 05:22 |
| zakame | yeah, the one from 1.3.10-3ubuntu1 :) my thanks again :D | 05:22 |
| zakame | hihi, pbuilder love | 05:23 |
| Nafallo | hmm, the build-logs haven't been updated for awhile :-/ | 05:24 |
| zakame | waah | 05:24 |
| Nafallo | and I haven't got mail to dapper-changes about my syncs | 05:25 |
| zakame | hmmm | 05:26 |
| Nafallo | uploading anyway | 05:26 |
| zakame | so I suppose I no longer need to upload the updated debdiff? :) | 05:28 |
| Nafallo | indeed | 05:28 |
| zakame | hehe :) again, many thanks | 05:30 |
| zakame | good night all :D | 05:32 |
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| siretart | lucas: \sh_away: I worked more on my motu-tools branch. please merge from my place | 05:47 |
| lucas | you place ? | 05:48 |
| lucas | your place ? | 05:48 |
| siretart | http://tiber.tauware.de/~siretart/motu-tools | 05:48 |
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| siretart | ogra_: do you have a minute? | 05:52 |
| ogra_ | sure | 05:52 |
| siretart | ogra_: could you please upload this for me: http://tiber.tauware.de/~siretart/main/ | 05:52 |
| siretart | ogra_: mdz is okay with that change, and I'm not in the main keyring yet | 05:52 |
| ogra_ | if the changelog is right, i'm fine with uploading | 05:53 |
| siretart | thanks | 05:53 |
| siretart | cu later | 05:54 |
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| xerxas | how do I switch to dapper ? sed 's/breezy/dapper/g' on sources.list ? | 06:11 |
| slomo | yes | 06:11 |
| xerxas | can I install breeezy from a running system ? | 06:11 |
| xerxas | let say with debootstrap ? | 06:11 |
| slomo | yes but it's probably not that easy ;) | 06:12 |
| xerxas | why so ? | 06:12 |
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| Amaranth | you have to do it in a chroot | 06:15 |
| xerxas | Amaranth, chroot where | 06:17 |
| xerxas | ? | 06:17 |
| Amaranth | http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html | 06:17 |
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| xerxas | sudo debootstrap --arch i386 dapper /media/hda2/ http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu dapper | 06:51 |
| xerxas | not tested but supposed to do the whole thing | 06:51 |
| xerxas | then I'll run base-config at that will do the job probably | 06:52 |
| azeem | --variant=buildd should be enough | 06:52 |
| xerxas | (maybe vi /etc/fstab) | 06:52 |
| azeem | for usage with sbuild or pbuilder, I guess | 06:52 |
| Nafallo | remove the last dapper probably | 06:52 |
| xerxas | Nafallo, you're probablt right | 06:53 |
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| lfittl | Short packaging question: should I rename the source package if there is already a source package with the same name? (binary names are different..) | 07:03 |
| ogra | nope, you should use this source package instead of doubling the amount of sources in the archive ;) | 07:03 |
| azeem | lfittl: is it a different program with the same name? | 07:05 |
| lfittl | azeem: yep ;) | 07:05 |
| lfittl | libloki & loki | 07:05 |
| azeem | well, I believe you cannot have another source package with the same name as an existing one | 07:05 |
| lfittl | k, thanks | 07:06 |
| ogra | is this the biology thing ? | 07:06 |
| azeem | was bddebian at UBZ? | 07:07 |
| ogra | nope | 07:07 |
| ogra | not to my knowledge | 07:07 |
| azeem | hrm, did he drop off the net? | 07:07 |
| === azeem hasn't seen him around lately | ||
| ogra | seems like... havent seen him since before ubz | 07:07 |
| lfittl | ogra: yep, but the package I am working on is libloki, because the version in universe is really outdated.. | 07:08 |
| ogra | so rather get it updated then ;) | 07:08 |
| ogra | is there a newer one in debian we could sync by chance ? | 07:09 |
| lfittl | no :/ | 07:09 |
| ogra | to bad | 07:09 |
| ogra | then just work on it as a replacement, try to base it on the existing package | 07:10 |
| lfittl | that's what i'm doing, the only thing I was not sure about was the source package name ;) | 07:11 |
| ogra | keep it so it gets superseded | 07:11 |
| ogra | ...by a new version | 07:11 |
| lfittl | ogra: do you have time to review the package on revu? | 07:14 |
| ogra | not right now, sorry | 07:15 |
| lfittl | k, no problem ;) | 07:16 |
| Nafallo | hmm | 07:17 |
| === Nafallo hopes the mom-merged version of tightvnc is the right decision. | ||
| Nafallo | ogra: care to make an extra check on that decision? :-/ | 07:18 |
| ogra | how much changes are there to the debian version ? | 07:19 |
| ogra | did you try the debian one ? | 07:19 |
| Nafallo | yea, but the change are one of daniels. to include the correct dir to the x-fonts. | 07:20 |
| Nafallo | I have no idea how to test that or what the symptoms are really. | 07:20 |
| Nafallo | ubuntu #16481 | 07:21 |
| Nafallo | Ubugtu`: bugzilla #16481 | 07:22 |
| Ubugtu` | Error: Could not parse XML returned by Ubuntu Bugzilla bugzilla: Connection to Ubuntu Bugzilla bugzilla failed: Connection timed out. | 07:22 |
| Ubugtu` | Show a link to a bug report with a brief description | 07:22 |
| Nafallo | oh. seems easy enough to test. | 07:24 |
| Nafallo | nm me ;-) | 07:24 |
| slomo | hm, rosetta is evil :( it doesn't include copyright, author, etc of new .po files... | 07:28 |
| jamessan|work | what type of bot is Ubugtu`? | 07:31 |
| Nafallo | jamessan: a non-working one :-) | 07:32 |
| jamessan|work | Nafallo: heh, but is it a custom one or is it based off one of the well-known bots? | 07:32 |
| Nafallo | ah, ask Seveas. | 07:32 |
| jamessan|work | a /whois didn't give much info | 07:32 |
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| sistpoty | grml... ghc6 rejected to build :( | 07:46 |
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| Tonio_ | hi | 08:14 |
| jamessan|work | Seveas: I'm told you're the one I should talk to about what type of bot Ubugtu` is :) | 08:14 |
| Tonio_ | little question | 08:14 |
| Seveas | Ubugtu`, is a supybot | 08:14 |
| jamessan|work | sweet :) | 08:14 |
| Tonio_ | are there any reasons that there is no freenx package at the moment ? | 08:15 |
| Seveas | they're not good enough for Xorg 7 yet | 08:15 |
| jamessan|work | Seveas: is that the original bugzilla plugin it's using or did you write your own? | 08:16 |
| Seveas | I have working packages in my personal repository, but these contain workarounds to make them work with xorg 7 | 08:16 |
| Seveas | jamessan, a heavily hacked up bugzilla plugin that now supports malone too and is in desperate need of a rewrite (ehich is halfway done) | 08:16 |
| Tonio_ | Seveas: it is still optimised for xfree ? | 08:16 |
| Seveas | Tonio_, it is designed to work with the non-modular X | 08:17 |
| Tonio_ | Seveas: okay | 08:17 |
| Tonio_ | Seveas: thanks for the explanation | 08:17 |
| jamessan|work | Seveas: cool. when you finish the rewrite, I could include it with the supybot-plugins tarball we distribute. the old plugin never made the 0.83 transition | 08:19 |
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| Gloubiboulga | hello | 08:20 |
| Seveas | jamessan, are you the supybot maintainer? | 08:22 |
| Seveas | jamessan|work* | 08:22 |
| jamessan|work | I'm the upstream, yes. Been rather inactive lately, unfortunately. just small bug-fixes | 08:24 |
| Seveas | k, good to know :) | 08:25 |
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| Nafallo | hmm | 09:00 |
| Nafallo | the mailing-lists will be delivered later or something? | 09:01 |
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| [splinux] | hi all , how can i do for upload my package ? | 09:13 |
| dholbach | [splinux] : what are you trying to do? | 09:14 |
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| hunger_ | Sorry, lost my connection. | 09:33 |
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| azeem | Riddell: The award was called | 10:00 |
| azeem | args | 10:00 |
| === Riddell awaits his award | ||
| azeem | 'best Debian Derivate', so it's no wonder Debian didn't get a mention | 10:00 |
| Riddell | the award did seem kinday custom made for Ubuntu | 10:01 |
| hunger_ | Mest Debian Derivate sounds a lot like "We want to give a award to ubuntu... what could we call the category? | 10:01 |
| azeem | yeah, it is strange they only had 'Best Enterprise Distribution' as alternative | 10:01 |
| hunger_ | azeem: ... where SuSE won! | 10:02 |
| Nafallo | PRE-dapper ;-) | 10:03 |
| azeem | Riddell: Debian won the 'Best distribution' awawrd in 2002 and 2003, Skolelinux/debian-edu won last year | 10:03 |
| azeem | and IIRC most of the other places have been seized by Debian derivates in the last years as well | 10:04 |
| azeem | so I guess they just decided to rename the category, reflecting reality | 10:04 |
| hunger_ | Pazzo: Konqueror does waste so much memory or so it seems. | 10:06 |
| hunger_ | Pazzo: Haven't restarted it in weeks:-) | 10:07 |
| hub | hi | 10:08 |
| hub | I get more and more request for my hugin package still waiting on REVU | 10:08 |
| dholbach | hub: isn't it just a license issue now? | 10:11 |
| dholbach | "just" | 10:11 |
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| hub | dholbach: I clarified it | 10:13 |
| hub | dholbach: that's what I was asked | 10:13 |
| dholbach | hub: gave my ok | 10:16 |
| hub | thx | 10:16 |
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| lfittl | dholbach: Do you have some time to review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=938? | 10:24 |
| LaserJock | does anybody know the difference between vim-gnome and vim-gtk? | 10:25 |
| dholbach | lfittl: i was just about to leave - i'll add it to my list | 10:26 |
| lfittl | dholbach: ok thanks | 10:26 |
| dholbach | lfittl: i'll do it tomorrow | 10:26 |
| lfittl | dholbach: perfect :) | 10:26 |
| dholbach | super | 10:26 |
| dholbach | see you around | 10:26 |
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| bmonty_laptop | siretart: can you please nuke gphpedit from REVU? | 11:16 |
| bmonty_laptop | bzflag also | 11:16 |
| lfittl | dholbach: perfect :) | 11:17 |
| lfittl | argh | 11:17 |
| lfittl | sry | 11:17 |
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| sistpoty | bmonty_laptop: do you want gphpedit/bzflag nuked? then they're gone forever from the revu db | 11:20 |
| bmonty_laptop | sistpoty: yeah, there isn't much point in having them there because they will be synched (bzflag is already done) | 11:21 |
| sistpoty | bmonty_laptop: ok, will do | 11:21 |
| bmonty_laptop | thanks | 11:21 |
| siretart | oh, I already did | 11:22 |
| siretart | hi sistpoty, huhu bmonty_laptop :) | 11:22 |
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| siretart | just returned home | 11:22 |
| sistpoty | hi siretart | 11:22 |
| siretart | and figured out how to do a basic config with whereami. cool crack, btw ;) | 11:22 |
| sistpoty | siretart: maybe you didn't nuke all uploads of bzflag/gpphpedit... i just nuked them as well ;) | 11:22 |
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| siretart | sistpoty: ooh, I remember, the nuke link just nukes that upid | 11:23 |
| sistpoty | yep | 11:23 |
| bmonty_laptop | where is the nuke link? | 11:23 |
| siretart | sistpoty: perhaps we should hack something so that it nukes all corresponding uploads recusivly | 11:23 |
| sistpoty | bmonty_laptop: you need to be admin for revu to do this | 11:23 |
| siretart | bmonty_laptop: sorry, admins only | 11:24 |
| bmonty_laptop | ahhh | 11:24 |
| sistpoty | siretart: maybe we should... at least for revu2 ;) | 11:24 |
| siretart | sistpoty: yepp. | 11:24 |
| Nafallo | admins + uploader would be better IMO :-) | 11:24 |
| sistpoty | sure thing, Nafallo ;) | 11:24 |
| sistpoty | just a very stupid shell-scripting question: how can i do a tail +<n> properly? (i.e. skip the first <n> lines and output the rest) | 11:25 |
| sistpoty | (ghc6 ftbfs from this, because newest dapper tail doesn't support tail +n any longer :( | 11:26 |
| siretart | thats strange. why doesnt dapper tail +n dropped support for that? | 11:29 |
| azeem | sistpoty: that got reverted in Debian since | 11:29 |
| azeem | * [99] Revert change to POSIX version override (I forgot about +n usage) | 11:29 |
| azeem | I once again *strongly* urge people to convert to more portable syntax. | 11:29 |
| azeem | (search NEWS for POSIX 1003.1-2001) | 11:29 |
| azeem | (Closes: #339085) | 11:29 |
| siretart | you could work around with awk, but thats a bit ugly.. | 11:29 |
| azeem | (I think) | 11:29 |
| minghua | sistpoty: I have a question about your MoM pages | 11:30 |
| minghua | sistpoty: I've decided to take grace and grace6 | 11:30 |
| minghua | sistpoty: I filed malone bug, assigned to MOTU merge team, but it still shown as "new" on your page, not "accpeted" as I expect it to be | 11:31 |
| sistpoty | minghua: mom, I'll take a look at the bugs | 11:31 |
| Nafallo | ubuntu-universe-bugs haven't got updated yet. | 11:32 |
| Nafallo | the page uses that one to check for status :-) | 11:33 |
| hub | LaserJock: vim-gnome depend on gnome | 11:34 |
| hub | LaserJock: gvim-gtk just on gtk | 11:34 |
| minghua | sistpoty: It's bug #4400 and #4403, thanks | 11:34 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug #4400: grace6: merge new debian version Fix req. for: grace6 (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Merge Team, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/4400 | 11:34 |
| sistpoty | Nafallo: no, there are bugs in my inbox... just wondering why this didn't work | 11:35 |
| Nafallo | sistpoty: oh? against what source was the last bug? | 11:37 |
| sistpoty | grace and grace6... and my script produces the fine output "there was s.th. wrong" :( | 11:38 |
| sistpoty | lol | 11:38 |
| Nafallo | hmm | 11:38 |
| Nafallo | only my mail-server that has a big delay? | 11:38 |
| Nafallo | (just got bug 4540 in my mailbox) | 11:38 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug #4540: gnomebaker percentage done is negative Fix req. for: gnomebaker (Ubuntu), Severity: Minor, Assigned to: MOTU, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/4540 | 11:38 |
| tseng | xerxas: what are you trying to do? | 11:40 |
| bmonty_laptop | Nafallo: can you please take a look at Malone #4550 | 11:42 |
| Ubugtu | Error: Could not parse XML returned by Malone bugzilla: Connection to Malone bugzilla failed: HTTP Error 404: Not Found | 11:42 |
| sistpoty | minghua: you changed the assignee by the web-tool? seems like no mail regarding a change of bugstate has come to universe-bugs-list. Since I need this to find out if a merge should be marked as fixed, my script bails out... | 11:43 |
| Nafallo | bmonty_laptop: O'm on it :-) | 11:44 |
| Nafallo | s/O/I/ | 11:44 |
| bmonty_laptop | thanks :) | 11:44 |
| sistpoty | minghua: I'll try setting bug-status for grace in malone from new to accepted, and check if s.th. changes... | 11:45 |
| sistpoty | minghua: I'll also fix the script ;) | 11:45 |
| minghua | sistpoty: yes, I used the web-tool, no time to play bazaar yet | 11:47 |
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| minghua | sistpoty: but there _is_ a mail about status change to universe-bugs list, http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/universe-bugs/2005-November/002856.html | 11:50 |
| minghua | sistpoty: there is no mail about the bug get filed | 11:50 |
| minghua | sistpoty: or are you talking about something else by universe-bugs-list? | 11:51 |
| sistpoty | minghua: actually the exact thing that's missing is a mail with s.th. like "Status (New) => Accepted" or "Status: new"... | 11:51 |
| sistpoty | minghua: but i just fixed the script, so that a team-assignment will also update the MoM-database ;) | 11:52 |
| sistpoty | minghua: thx for noting this ;) | 11:52 |
| minghua | I see. So it seems I'm the only one using web-tool now? :-) | 11:52 |
| minghua | sistpoty: sure, thank you for fixing it so fast :-) | 11:53 |
| Nafallo | yepp :-) | 11:53 |
| sistpoty | minghua: n.p.... I know the regexp from the script ;) | 11:53 |
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