=== Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-110-44.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] how do I find out what flags are causing dpkg to finish compiling? [12:26] I've run the program using ./configure make and make install as per the rules script that gets put in there with dh_make however if I run it through dpackage with the cfflags it dies going through the compiling process? === thierry [n=thierry@modemcable041.61-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:37] at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseDesktopFileAbsolutePath?action=show it is said "Also be sure to notify upstream/debian of the changes so they can fix the files aswell." How can I notify debian? [12:38] if its to fix a bug i'd think a bugreport in thier bug tracking system would be the obvious way [12:38] otherwise i'd think an e-mail to the maintainer === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:44] plugwash : what is the adress of their bug tracking system? === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-47-165.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === magnon [n=co@cD9088834.sdsl.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] thierry: use reportbug (pkg has same name) [12:54] thierry: bugs.debian.org but you submit and manipulate via e-mail not webinterface === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i577B01EF.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] ouch. I just thought of that I don't think I've had a proper dinner since Montreal :( === Ubugtu` [n=bugbot@81.171.100.21] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spstarr_home [n=sh0n@CPEdeadbeef0000-CM000039d4cc6a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jimbob [n=jcape@c-67-175-222-235.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jimbob_ [n=jcape@c-67-175-222-235.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@84.254.14.232] has joined #ubuntu-motu === susus [n=sz@p5089CE11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:24] good night guys :) === azeem [n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@84.254.14.232] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === Jimb0b [n=jcape@c-67-175-222-235.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SEJeff [n=SEJeff@12-222-183-136.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jimbob_ [n=jcape@c-67-175-222-235.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DrBair [n=ryan@c-67-186-55-131.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] a lot of lib updates....this Prelink took a long time === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp04197965pcs.crosky01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hunger_ [n=hunger@p54A6190F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jimbob_ [n=jcape@c-67-173-146-239.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burglaptop [n=corey@S01060014bf43264d.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shadeofgrey [n=shadeofg@24-52-41-197.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:09] hi everybody! [03:10] i dont belong here by any stretch ofthe imagination, but... i just wanted to say thanks for keeping up all the work you have to do that i certainly dont understand that makes my apt-get days bright, happy, and full of joy [03:10] :) [03:10] ...now quit dicking around and get to firefox 1.5 damnit [03:10] =) [03:11] ....please [03:11] ? [03:11] ill bribe you with liqiour and krispy kreme donuts [03:11] ...i know you coder kind love junk food === shadeofgrey waves an un-opened bag of dorrito's suggestively [03:12] ill grovel [03:12] i have no shame [03:12] please knock it off [03:13] okay but seriously -when do you think we'll be able to update to 1.5? [03:13] there are major improvements in that version... [03:13] when its ready [03:13] big time. [03:13] it takes hours to just build and test once [03:13] can you give me an estimate? [03:13] hmm.. [03:13] and there are tons of packages against a huge source tree [03:13] well [03:13] s/packages/patches [03:13] is there any way i can help you? [03:13] shadeofgrey: I can't talk tonight, I'm studying for my test tomorrow [03:13] see the thread on ubuntu-devel mailing list [03:14] okay. [03:14] ill leave now === shadeofgrey [n=shadeofg@24-52-41-197.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jianggw [n=jianggw@210.76.122.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:22] Is the leader of each team appointed by community council or self-appointed? [03:22] depends on your definition of team [03:22] hi all [03:23] jianggw, are you the Victor yesterday? [03:23] jianggw: members of the ubuntu-development team on launchpad are appointed by CC [03:23] er, ubuntu-members [03:23] ubuntu-dev is by TB [03:23] and ubuntu-core-dev [03:24] other teams in the Launchpad sense are free to be created by anyone === whiprush_ creates Team Tseng [03:24] whiprush_: 313773! [03:24] hihi [03:24] ONEONEONE [03:25] tseng, is tseng.ath.cx up? :) I was roaring to read your dpatch howto ;) [03:25] tseng:thanks!You are right.It is me!how do you know it? [03:25] jianggw: wrong nick [03:25] zakame: no [03:25] zakame: it is anticlimactic anyway [03:26] ah [03:26] jianggw, via the logs, and a /whois :) [03:27] sigh, evolution [03:27] ubuntu-dev and ubuntu-development are different teams? [03:27] erm [03:28] i take liberties to not fully expand easily comprehensible words [03:30] in the webpage http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/council,it wrote:The Chairman of the Community Council is yet to be determined.Isn't sabdfl the chairman? [03:32] http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=3590&d=1132034495 is a structure chart of community drawn by me.Is it correct? [03:34] Now this is embarrassing [03:34] Kyral:why??? [03:34] Some guy who I helped IM'd me saying he hopes he can one day help people with Linux like I do [03:35] Kyral, wow [03:36] Some days I wonder why I try so hard and then this happens I have my answer [03:37] hmmm, maybe a stupid question, but is backporting a NEW package from dapper to breezy sane? :p [03:37] Would you please help me point out the mistake in the diagram?So I can improve it. [03:37] depends on the package :D [03:40] it's lighttpd, not yet even in revu... I just got an email about it, asking that question... [03:40] its in revu [03:41] yes but that's not mine, and its broken [03:42] basically just a run of upstream's ./debian === _jason [n=jason@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Orandic [n=asd@stjhnf0122w-142162037015.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Orandic [n=asd@stjhnf0122w-142162037015.nl.aliant.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === bipolar [n=bipolar@66.216.151.19.dynamic.dejazzd.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-47-165.nycap.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:17] motus: can you please check Malone #4089 debdiff if its ok and ready for build-to-upload? thanks :) [04:17] Error: Could not parse XML returned by Malone bugzilla: Connection to Malone bugzilla failed: HTTP Error 404: Not Found === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === Arr0gance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-83-37.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:14] I'm looking to get involved with development, I've created a launchpad account and signed the agreement and everything, I'm just not sure where exactly to go from here. [05:14] DrBair: you can work on merges or bug fixing [05:18] is that something I need to become a member for first? [05:20] nope. You can work and attach debdiffs to the malone bugs [05:20] not really, you can work on packages and ask someone to sponsor their upload for you, that is what I do [05:20] crimsun is helpful in doing that :) [05:21] DrBair: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerge [05:22] sounds good, I'll be sure to rip into that tomorrow === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob1 [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hunger_ [n=hunger@p54A6431D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:51] two more packages and all of the packages that start with b are merged (minus bzr, I'm not touching that) [06:18] bmonty_laptop: great! I'll look in a bit. 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[08:49] hi hunger , wtg! [08:49] salut zakame [08:51] zakame: wtg? [08:51] Burgundavia: hiho. [08:52] hunger: way to go :) [08:52] hey hunger [08:52] zakame: Oh, yes... but only adapting a couple of scripts is left to do I think(/hope). [08:52] hunger: cool! [08:53] Damn SuSE specific stuff:-) [08:54] how long does it normally take to get a backport request filled? (just curious) [08:57] morning [08:57] siretart: morning. [08:58] huhu tobias! [08:58] hi siretart ! :) [09:00] polpak, a variable amount of time. When did you file the request and what was it for/ [09:00] Burgundavia, I filed it yesterday.. It was for ogre, a truely sweet 3d rendering engine [09:00] I'm wanting to do some game development with it [09:01] polpak, likely at least a few days [09:01] polpak, if not longer [09:01] Burgundavia, ok. I figured as much [09:01] Burgundavia, thx === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:09] hi Seveas , slomo ! [09:10] hi zakame [09:10] zakame: you can sync gpsd... i was a bit confused ;) [09:10] the dbus changes are upstream iirc [09:11] slomo: I did some small changes though :) anyway, it built fine, and gtkpbbuttons too :) === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@vpn-imt9.uni-paderborn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:14] zakame: did you read what i've said about gpsd? [09:14] SloMoSnail: yep === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@vpn-imt9.uni-paderborn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:17] zakame: or the dbus patch isn't upstream? hmm, please test [09:18] SloMoSnail: checking it again, it seems the dbus isn't in upstream [09:18] zakame: yes... hmm, then it was another package... please don't sync but merge then ;) [09:19] SloMoSnail: ok, it already is currently as `to be merged', PendingUpload ;) [09:19] zakame: oh, you have a merged diff? url please and i send it up :) [09:20] SloMoSnail: http://librarian.launchpad.net/1183186/gpsd_2.28-2ubuntu1.debdiff [09:21] zakame: ah, gtkpbbuttons... is the common package still all? or powerpc? [09:21] SloMoSnail: powerpc it seems... can't build in x86 [09:21] zakame: really? then it's safe to sync from debian [09:21] SloMoSnail: yup :) [09:21] zakame: i ask because i changed it before for us... same for the dbus stuff in gpsd ;) [09:22] against what version is your debdiff? [09:22] SloMoSnail: yeah, I've seen it in the changelog [09:25] ok, i'll upload it later... bbl === chip1 [n=ch1p@S01060080c6e89ad4.pk.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:27] what is the difference between ubuntu,kubuntu and edubuntu? [09:28] wb Victorjiang [09:31] Victorjiang: is this for a school project? :) [09:32] Victorjiang: they are derivatives, but share the same repositories. the only in the installer [09:33] any luck with ubuntu-lite? [09:34] thanks === chip1 [n=ch1p@S01060080c6e89ad4.pk.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [09:36] siretart:installer?Do you mean the only difference is that kubuntu with kde and ubuntu with gnome? [09:36] Victorjiang: basically, yes === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:43] wb dholbach === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:45] good morning [09:46] dang ion3 has such a heavyweight build-deps === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:47] ajmitch, soz for OT question, but do you know what michael machs nick is ? [09:48] hi Tonio_, zakame [09:51] dholbach, do you know by any chance ? [09:51] Is there a policy on when to use which log_*_msg? [09:51] michal mach?, no sorry [09:51] :/ [09:51] thx nways [09:52] dholbach, he was the polish dude at ubz === maradong [n=bhentges@213.47.179.227] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:54] viviersf: i know, i met him :) [09:54] but i don't know his nick, sorry :( [09:56] Can I split Depends: over multiple lines? [09:56] hunger: lintian will warn you about it [09:57] zakame: OK, then I'll not do that. [09:57] zakame: Thanks. [09:57] hunger: no problem :-) [09:58] arg i hate it when you find a new app [09:58] try to compile it [09:58] and the configure script is totally wasted [09:59] hihi [10:00] have you tried upgrading the autotools? === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob1 [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:02] nah zakame [10:02] this package just make a small configure script [10:02] its just it doesnt work [10:02] then also [10:02] they release source with invalid code [10:03] there aint a file like "qlist.h" [10:03] its qlistbox.h [10:03] :/ [10:03] hmm, seems that the ./configure or Makefile is very old [10:04] how can the ./configure make problems with physical code in other files === Mithrandir [n=tfheen@c5100BC63.inet.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:07] wghahaha [10:07] i tell the dude next to me to apt-get apache [10:07] so he picks up the bloody phone [10:07] :/ === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:24] where do I lodge bug reports for dapper? [10:25] anyone? [10:25] StrikeForce: probably malone [10:26] siretart, is coreutils part of main? [10:26] sure [10:26] -> bugzilla :) [10:26] sweet no worries? [10:26] I worry that bugzilla may be incredibly slow [10:27] siretart, off topic but I registered in bugzilla and added my gpg key and signed the agreement? [10:27] what else do I need to do to become a member? [10:27] StrikeForce: what is your lp id? === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:27] MarcWiriadisastra [10:28] I'd like to become and MOTU [10:28] StrikeForce: you need to register with launchpad [10:28] I have [10:28] sorry strikeforce [10:28] I signed it yesterday [10:29] https://launchpad.net/people/strikeforce [10:29] okay. then apply for the https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntumembers team [10:29] and try to attend the next CommunityCouncil [10:29] thanks :) [10:30] we were thinking about changing this procedure a bit, but AFAIK we did not decide yet, so I'm telling you the procedures that I think that are valid :) [10:31] MOrning all [10:31] siretart, I've just clicked on join the team [10:33] siretart, are the meetings weekly? [10:33] I think biweekly [10:34] siretart: did you have a look at my key ? I've got several packages to upload ... [10:34] sweet ok now what time is UTC to GMT? === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:36] raphink: done :) [10:38] argh === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:40] Mono 1.1.10 released! :) [10:41] siretart, do we have to wait for mono to be packaged for debian? [10:42] or do we package it ourselves for ubuntu? [10:42] StrikeForce: ask tseng [10:42] oh ok === blueyed [n=daniel@pdpc/supporter/active/blueyed] has joined #ubuntu-motu === neuschnee [i=nathan@d207-216-204-86.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:56] someone c++-sawy might want to take a look at the tse3-merge :-) [11:02] when running debuild on a package, I get errors from tar -xkf : [11:02] tar: kyamo/admin/acinclude.m4.in: Cannot open: File exists [11:02] tar: kyamo/admin/Doxyfile.am: Cannot open: File exists [11:02] tar: kyamo/admin/libtool.m4.in: Cannot open: File exists [11:02] and debuild exists with an status 2 [11:03] raphink: did you try in pbuilder? [11:03] I need to build the source package first [11:03] I have no dsc yet [11:03] it used to build fine [11:03] oh [11:03] strange [11:03] but I just switched by rules to cdbs [11:03] it worked fine with a classic rules [11:03] cdbs is sometime quite unobvious [11:04] :s [11:04] yep === siretart didn't advocate cdbs ;) [11:04] I just included debhelper.mk [11:04] hehe ;) [11:05] I'm using it for my 2 debian packages, though.. [11:06] oh maybe I need autotools too [11:07] I'll see [11:07] hmm no :( [11:10] is there anything special to add when a package is using automake ? [11:10] apart from adding automake to the build deps === magnon [n=co@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas [n=Miranda@AGrenoble-152-1-21-119.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lllmanulll [n=manu@dan75-4-82-239-58-38.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hunger [n=hunger@p54A63016.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dredg [n=nsherida@80.169.137.162] has joined #ubuntu-motu === otep [n=otep@AP-203.167.31.158.sysads.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:50] hello [12:51] hi pef [12:51] hello siretart :) [12:55] How breezy-updates works ? is it only for security fixes ? [12:56] major bugfixes [12:56] they have to be obvious fixes, no large complicated patch [12:58] tseng: ok, and who should I contact ? [12:59] mdz === _jason [n=jason@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@adsl229-164.unizar.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tifa [n=alucard@bsocket.csv.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === juliux [n=juliux@p54B16606.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:23] hi === markuman [n=supermar@p509244E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@vpn-imt10.uni-paderborn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === juliux [n=juliux@p54B16606.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Verlassend"] === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@edison.tsf.org.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:45] I'm having a pb with tar in the creation of the source target === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:45] because it uses the -k option which crashes [01:45] dpkg-source: failure: tar -xkf - gave error exit status 2 [01:45] tar: kyamo/admin/acinclude.m4.in: Cannot open: File exists [01:45] tar: kyamo/admin/Doxyfile.am: Cannot open: File exists [01:45] tar: kyamo/admin/libtool.m4.in: Cannot open: File exists [01:45] tar: Read 2048 bytes from - [01:45] tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors [01:46] debuild: fatal error at line 765: [01:46] dpkg-buildpackage failed! [01:46] any way I could set that? [01:46] REVU needed and appreciated for thunar file manager, thanks === bipolar_ [n=bipolar@66.216.151.243.dynamic.dejazzd.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jason [n=jason@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [n=blackbir@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@edison.tsf.org.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487F6D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sanpera [n=sanpera@wls-21-226-196-65.tls.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinium [n=selinium@80-193-16-239.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryu [n=chris@p5487FB0D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] siretart: have you started working on a package ? [02:08] if not, I'd like to work on this === xerxas [n=Miranda@AGrenoble-152-1-21-119.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pmjdebruijn [n=pmjdebru@pmjdebruijn.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] lo all === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamessan|work [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] is there any plan for transition to initng for dapper ? === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:14] xerxas: discussion was on ubuntu-devel@ [02:14] several times [02:15] initng is considered to be immature [02:15] and since dapper will be supported for 5 years on the server, i'd say no === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:15] dapper+1 will probably be the first to see a new init system [02:16] I remember reading sthing about a server for MOTUs [02:16] where they have an account and can run scripts [02:17] ah that's revu.tauware.de [02:20] lucas: on what package? [02:20] motu-tools === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:20] lucas: not yet, I'm still polishing some tools there [02:20] I mean packaging + daily builds [02:20] hello again :D [02:21] dholbach: initng is considered immature because it's to young ? [02:21] lucas: commit the package, let me merge your branch, and then lets think how to make daily builds [02:21] commit your packaging, that is [02:22] xerxas: i have never investigated it, but i heard quite a lot of people referring to it as a hack *shrug* i suggest you read the thread on ubuntu-devel@ - should be in the bootchart thread as well [02:22] xerxas, init is a major piece of your environment, even the slightest doubt should prevent it from being included into dapper [02:23] Nafallo: my thanks again :) [02:23] if noone includes it, it won't never be mature [02:23] :-) [02:23] but maybe it's not ubuntu's job [02:23] xerxas: what's up with init-ng? [02:24] xerxas: it's not ubuntus job in the release they will support for 5 years, no. [02:24] 1.5 is bad enough. [02:24] that's a a good point :) [02:25] anyone has got an idea about why my package will build using the -k option in tar when using cdbs and not when using a classic rules ? [02:31] siretart: I haven't worked on packaging yet [02:32] lucas: I'd suggest using simple debhelper magic [02:32] I'll work on this tonight [02:33] what's required to get an account on revu.tauware.de ? [02:33] is it a public system ? [02:33] (or is there a public system for MOTUs ?) [02:34] i think it uses your signed key [02:34] lucas: we agreed that every motu can apply for an account on tiber [02:35] ok [02:35] and how do one become a motu ? :) [02:35] wow, a motu-tools package! === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089C957.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] lucas: become an ubuntu member, start getting some packages sponsored for upload, get your key signed by someone that gets you to ogra's key [02:36] so those in any order :P [02:36] err, do [02:36] lucas: start by helping, packaging, fixing bugs ( and genrate a gpg key) [02:36] (and get is signed ) ;) [02:37] s/is/it [02:37] what is ogra's key Amaranth ? [02:37] I mean what's the reference of it? [02:37] ask him === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:37] http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/mk_path.cgi?STAT=A2D06936&STATS=statistics [02:37] try that url [02:37] or rather ogra what 'syour key? [02:37] well my key has been in the strongly connected set for 4 or 5 years I think ;) [02:37] ok [02:37] thanks [02:37] if you get *any* kind of connection between your and my key, you should be fine [02:37] lucas: can you get a path from yours to ogra's? [02:38] Amaranth: *strongly connected set* ;) [02:38] lucas: what is your lp id? [02:38] ogra_: http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/mk_path.cgi?FROM=A2D06936&TO=74BF771E&PATHS=trust+paths [02:38] is that fine for you ? :D [02:38] Amaranth, if he'S in the strong set :) [02:38] siretart: LNussbaum [02:38] http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/mk_path.cgi?FROM=A2D06936&TO=023B3F4F&PATHS=trust+paths [02:38] raphink, looks good :) [02:38] :) [02:38] lucas: no, your launchpad id, that has to bee all lowercase [02:38] can anybody point me to things to do ? [02:39] (I didn't find bug I want to investigate on) [02:39] xerxas: /topic [02:39] bugs [02:39] xerxas, there is a MotuToMerge page ... [02:39] start with this one [02:39] lucas: never mind, found it [02:39] ah [02:40] ogra_: how about my key, is it okay? :) http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/mk_path.cgi?STAT=FA53851D&STATS=statistics [02:41] zakame, absolutely [02:43] ogra_: do you understand this page ? [02:43] ogra_: wow, thanks :) [02:43] this means for example that aatv is to be repackaged ? === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:43] in http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/LOGS/mom.20051107.log aatv seems to have a 404 error === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@DSL01.83.171.156.206.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:44] hi folks [02:44] xerxas: yes, some of the pkgs there have that [02:45] zakame: these are packages that I can package ? [02:45] hi sistpoty , how do you do? :) [02:46] hi zakame, I'm fine, thx ;) === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:47] xerxas: no, they're already packaged ;) but (motus, please correct my if i'm wrogn ;) if such a pkg needs any change, work on that and tell the motus about it, preferably in debdiff form :) [02:48] zakame: so I don't understand the purpose of this file [02:48] I can tell a motu or report a bug for any package [02:48] not the ones that have 404 errors [02:49] http://revu.tauware.de/~sistpoty/MoM/index.py?state=new [02:49] that might be a better ressource [02:49] xerxas: the mom log is raw, ogra_ 's pointer is the better resource :) [02:50] xerxas: though if you are actually doing a merge, the raw log will be useful as it tells you where to get source pkgs for both debian and merged [02:50] humm [02:51] still don't understand where there's work to do [02:51] can I try to repackage mono 1.1.10 ? [02:51] and then beagke 0.12 ? [02:51] xerxas, has already been released? [02:52] yes [02:52] yesterday or so [02:52] xerxas, you should talk to the mono team for mono stuff (tseng and slomo for example) [02:53] mono is far more than just repackaging ... you have to know in which order the packages need to be built ... [02:53] what does merging exctly consist in? [02:53] xerxas, cool [02:53] (if i understood right you dont have to boostrap the compiler aanymore, but it still needs decent knowledge about the packages) [02:54] raphink: making sure that no changes either on debian/ubuntu side are dropped [02:54] hmmm [02:54] raphink, merging means we did a change to a package in breezy... [02:54] xerxas, on the subject of mono [02:54] now debian has a new version with or without adopting these changes [02:54] xerxas, could you take a look at this: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mono/+bug/4531 [02:54] Malone bug #4531: Newer MonoDevelop doesn't work properly Fix req. for: mono (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Mono Team, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/4531 [02:54] ogra_: ok mono will probably be too hard for me [02:54] hmm ok [02:55] that is what I was thinking [02:55] ogra_ for exemple gnome-gpg is to be repackaged for dapper ? [02:55] we have to decide is the changes are still needed and reapply them if this is the case ... else we'll drop them and just sync the debian package === _jason [n=jason@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:55] thats the core of so called merging :) [02:56] pmjdebruijn: looking at the link [02:56] ogra_ so for exemple for gnome-gpg I need to look at the patches and try to know if I can remove some parts of it ? === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.207.45.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:57] wb highvoltage [02:57] xerxas, exactly [02:58] zakame: thanks. connected through cell phone. internet connection very dodgy [02:59] highvoltage: wow, I haven't tried that before :) [02:59] my phone has a usb cable, all i need to do is plug it into laptop, and dial *99# :) [03:00] xerxas, it's basically a small bugfix which will allow MonoDevelop 0.8 to run on Breezy without doing a major mono update [03:02] highvoltage: hmmm, I should try that sometime... when I get a cellphone ;) [03:04] :) === mitsuhiko [n=blackbir@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.207.45.254] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:24] <\sh> ogra: ping is it snowing at your place` [03:24] <\sh> ? [03:24] nope [03:24] only raining [03:24] whoops, it's indeed raining here as well === azeem didn't notice [03:24] neither here :_) [03:24] :-) === Danten [n=danten@h182n12c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #Ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:27] hey \sh, can you upload a package to universe for me? [03:29] <\sh> sistpoty: sure i can.... [03:29] cool... it's on tiber at /home/sistpoty/public_html/uploads (ghc6) [03:29] <\sh> uahhhh [03:29]