[12:25] <StrikeForce> how do I find out what flags are causing dpkg to finish compiling?
[12:26] <StrikeForce> I've run the program using ./configure make and make install as per the rules script that gets put in there with dh_make however if I run it through dpackage with the cfflags it dies going through the compiling process?
[12:37] <thierry> at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseDesktopFileAbsolutePath?action=show it is said "Also be sure to notify upstream/debian of the changes so they can fix the files aswell." How can I notify debian?
[12:38] <plugwash> if its to fix a bug i'd think a bugreport in thier bug tracking system would be the obvious way
[12:38] <plugwash> otherwise i'd think an e-mail to the maintainer
[12:44] <thierry> plugwash : what is the adress of their bug tracking system?
[12:53] <allee> thierry: use reportbug (pkg has same name)
[12:54] <allee> thierry: bugs.debian.org  but you submit and manipulate via e-mail not webinterface
[01:01] <magnon> ouch. I just thought of that I don't think I've had a proper dinner since Montreal :(
[01:24] <dholbach> good night guys :)
[02:14] <Kyral> a lot of lib updates....this Prelink took a long time
[03:09] <shadeofgrey> hi everybody!
[03:10] <shadeofgrey> i dont belong here by any stretch ofthe imagination, but...  i just wanted to say thanks for keeping up all the work you have to do that i certainly dont understand that makes my apt-get days bright, happy, and full of joy
[03:10] <Lathiat> :)
[03:10] <shadeofgrey> ...now quit dicking around and get to firefox 1.5 damnit
[03:10] <shadeofgrey> =)
[03:11] <shadeofgrey> ....please
[03:11] <shadeofgrey> ?
[03:11] <shadeofgrey> ill bribe you with liqiour and krispy kreme donuts
[03:11] <shadeofgrey> ...i know you coder kind love junk food
[03:12] <shadeofgrey> ill grovel
[03:12] <shadeofgrey> i have no shame
[03:12] <tseng> please knock it off
[03:13] <shadeofgrey> okay but seriously -when do you think we'll be able to update to 1.5?
[03:13] <shadeofgrey> there are major improvements in that version...
[03:13] <tseng> when its ready
[03:13] <shadeofgrey> big time.
[03:13] <tseng> it takes hours to just build and test once
[03:13] <shadeofgrey> can you give me an estimate?
[03:13] <shadeofgrey> hmm..
[03:13] <tseng> and there are tons of packages against a huge source tree
[03:13] <shadeofgrey> well
[03:13] <tseng> s/packages/patches
[03:13] <shadeofgrey> is there any way i can help you?
[03:13] <SEJeff> shadeofgrey: I can't talk tonight, I'm studying for my test tomorrow
[03:13] <tseng> see the thread on ubuntu-devel mailing list
[03:14] <shadeofgrey> okay.
[03:14] <shadeofgrey> ill leave now
[03:22] <jianggw> Is the  leader of each team  appointed by community council or self-appointed?
[03:22] <tseng> depends on your definition of team
[03:22] <zakame> hi all
[03:23] <zakame> jianggw, are you the Victor yesterday?
[03:23] <tseng> jianggw: members of the ubuntu-development team on launchpad are appointed by CC
[03:23] <tseng> er, ubuntu-members
[03:23] <tseng> ubuntu-dev is by TB
[03:23] <tseng> and ubuntu-core-dev
[03:24] <tseng> other teams in the Launchpad sense are free to be created by anyone
[03:24] <tseng> whiprush_: 313773!
[03:24] <zakame> hihi
[03:24] <tseng> ONEONEONE
[03:25] <zakame> tseng, is tseng.ath.cx up? :)  I was roaring to read your dpatch howto ;)
[03:25] <jianggw> tseng:thanks!You are right.It is me!how do you know it?
[03:25] <tseng> jianggw: wrong nick
[03:25] <tseng> zakame: no
[03:25] <tseng> zakame: it is anticlimactic anyway
[03:26] <zakame> ah
[03:26] <zakame> jianggw, via the logs, and a /whois :)
[03:27] <tseng> sigh, evolution
[03:27] <jianggw> ubuntu-dev and ubuntu-development are different teams?
[03:27] <tseng> erm
[03:28] <tseng> i take liberties to not fully expand easily comprehensible words
[03:30] <jianggw>  in the webpage http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/council,it wrote:The Chairman of the Community Council is yet to be determined.Isn't sabdfl the chairman?
[03:32] <jianggw> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=3590&d=1132034495 is a structure chart of community drawn by me.Is it correct?
[03:34] <Kyral> Now this is embarrassing
[03:34] <jianggw> Kyral:why???
[03:34] <Kyral> Some guy who I helped IM'd me saying he hopes he can one day help people with Linux like I do
[03:35] <zakame> Kyral, wow
[03:36] <Kyral> Some days I wonder why I try so hard and then this happens I have my answer
[03:37] <zakame> hmmm, maybe a stupid question, but is backporting a NEW package from dapper to breezy sane? :p
[03:37] <jianggw> Would you please help me point out the mistake in the diagram?So I can improve it.
[03:37] <Kyral> depends on the package :D
[03:40] <zakame> it's lighttpd, not yet even in revu... I just got an email about it, asking that question...
[03:40] <tseng> its in revu
[03:41] <zakame> yes but that's not mine, and its broken
[03:42] <zakame> basically just a run of upstream's ./debian
[04:17] <zakame> motus: can you please check Malone #4089 debdiff if its ok and ready for build-to-upload? thanks :)
[04:17] <Ubugtu`> Error: Could not parse XML returned by Malone bugzilla: Connection to Malone bugzilla failed: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
[05:14] <DrBair> I'm looking to get involved with development, I've created a launchpad account and signed the agreement and everything, I'm just not sure where exactly to go from here.
[05:14] <bmonty_laptop> DrBair: you can work on merges or bug fixing
[05:18] <DrBair> is that something I need to become a member for first?
[05:20] <crimsun> nope. You can work and attach debdiffs to the malone bugs
[05:20] <bmonty_laptop> not really, you can work on packages and ask someone to sponsor their upload for you, that is what I do
[05:20] <bmonty_laptop> crimsun is helpful in doing that :)
[05:21] <bmonty_laptop> DrBair: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUToMerge
[05:22] <DrBair> sounds good, I'll be sure to rip into that tomorrow
[05:51] <bmonty_laptop> two more packages and all of the packages that start with b are merged (minus bzr, I'm not touching that)
[06:18] <crimsun> bmonty_laptop: great! I'll look in a bit.
[06:18] <bmonty_laptop> crimsun: they are all syncs
[06:18] <crimsun> bmonty_laptop: k
[06:22] <bmonty_laptop> I want to get merges under 500 packages tonight :)
[06:34] <bmonty_laptop> crimsun: malone #4509 has a debdiff for upload
[06:34] <Ubugtu`> Malone bug #4509: burn: merge new debian version Fix req. for: burn (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Merge Team, Status: PendingUpload http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/4509
[08:41] <zakame> hi Burgundavia
[08:48] <hunger> Good morning.
[08:49] <zakame> hi hunger , wtg!
[08:49] <Burgundavia> salut zakame
[08:51] <hunger> zakame: wtg?
[08:51] <hunger> Burgundavia: hiho.
[08:52] <zakame> hunger: way to go :)
[08:52] <Burgundavia> hey hunger
[08:52] <hunger> zakame: Oh, yes... but only adapting a couple of scripts is left to do I think(/hope).
[08:52] <zakame> hunger: cool!
[08:53] <hunger> Damn SuSE specific stuff:-)
[08:54] <polpak> how long does it normally take to get a backport request filled? (just curious)
[08:57] <siretart> morning
[08:57] <hunger> siretart: morning.
[08:58] <siretart> huhu tobias!
[08:58] <zakame> hi siretart ! :)
[09:00] <Burgundavia> polpak, a variable amount of time. When did you file the request and what was it for/
[09:00] <polpak> Burgundavia, I filed it yesterday.. It was for ogre, a truely sweet 3d rendering engine
[09:00] <polpak> I'm wanting to do some game development with it
[09:01] <Burgundavia> polpak, likely at least a few days
[09:01] <Burgundavia> polpak, if not longer
[09:01] <polpak> Burgundavia, ok. I figured as much
[09:01] <polpak> Burgundavia, thx
[09:09] <zakame> hi Seveas , slomo !
[09:10] <slomo> hi zakame
[09:10] <slomo> zakame: you can sync gpsd... i was a bit confused ;)
[09:10] <slomo> the dbus changes are upstream iirc
[09:11] <zakame> slomo: I did some small changes though :) anyway, it built fine, and gtkpbbuttons too :)
[09:14] <SloMoSnail> zakame: did you read what i've said about gpsd?
[09:14] <zakame> SloMoSnail: yep
[09:17] <SloMoSnail> zakame: or the dbus patch isn't upstream? hmm, please test
[09:18] <zakame> SloMoSnail: checking it again, it seems the dbus isn't in upstream
[09:18] <SloMoSnail> zakame: yes... hmm, then it was another package... please don't sync but merge then ;)
[09:19] <zakame> SloMoSnail: ok, it already is currently as `to be merged', PendingUpload ;)
[09:19] <SloMoSnail> zakame: oh, you have a merged diff? url please and i send it up :)
[09:20] <zakame> SloMoSnail: http://librarian.launchpad.net/1183186/gpsd_2.28-2ubuntu1.debdiff
[09:21] <SloMoSnail> zakame: ah, gtkpbbuttons... is the common package still all? or powerpc?
[09:21] <zakame> SloMoSnail: powerpc it seems... can't build in x86
[09:21] <SloMoSnail> zakame: really? then it's safe to sync from debian
[09:21] <zakame> SloMoSnail: yup :)
[09:21] <SloMoSnail> zakame: i ask because i changed it before for us... same for the dbus stuff in gpsd ;)
[09:22] <SloMoSnail> against what version is your debdiff?
[09:22] <zakame> SloMoSnail: yeah, I've seen it in the changelog
[09:25] <SloMoSnail> ok, i'll upload it later... bbl
[09:27] <Victorjiang>  what is the difference between ubuntu,kubuntu and edubuntu?
[09:28] <zakame> wb Victorjiang
[09:31] <zakame> Victorjiang: is this for a school project? :)
[09:32] <siretart> Victorjiang: they are derivatives, but share the same repositories. the only in the installer
[09:33] <chip1> any luck with ubuntu-lite?
[09:34] <Victorjiang> thanks
[09:36] <Victorjiang> siretart:installer?Do you mean the only difference is that kubuntu with kde and ubuntu with gnome?
[09:36] <siretart> Victorjiang: basically, yes
[09:43] <zakame> wb dholbach
[09:45] <dholbach> good morning
[09:46] <zakame> dang ion3 has such a heavyweight build-deps
[09:47] <viviersf> ajmitch, soz for OT question, but do you know what michael machs nick is ?
[09:48] <dholbach> hi Tonio_, zakame
[09:51] <viviersf> dholbach, do you know by any chance ?
[09:51] <hunger> Is there a policy on when to use which log_*_msg?
[09:51] <dholbach> michal mach?, no sorry
[09:51] <viviersf> :/
[09:51] <viviersf> thx nways
[09:52] <viviersf> dholbach, he was the polish dude at ubz
[09:54] <dholbach> viviersf: i know, i met him :)
[09:54] <dholbach> but i don't know his nick, sorry :(
[09:56] <hunger> Can I split Depends: over multiple lines?
[09:56] <zakame> hunger: lintian will warn you about it
[09:57] <hunger> zakame: OK, then I'll not do that.
[09:57] <hunger> zakame: Thanks.
[09:57] <zakame> hunger: no problem :-)
[09:58] <viviersf> arg i hate it when you find a new app
[09:58] <viviersf> try to compile it
[09:58] <viviersf> and the configure script is totally wasted
[09:59] <zakame> hihi
[10:00] <zakame> have you tried upgrading the autotools?
[10:02] <viviersf> nah zakame
[10:02] <viviersf> this package just make a small configure script
[10:02] <viviersf> its just it doesnt work
[10:02] <viviersf> then also
[10:02] <viviersf> they release source with invalid code
[10:03] <viviersf> there aint a file like "qlist.h"
[10:03] <viviersf> its qlistbox.h
[10:03] <viviersf> :/
[10:03] <zakame> hmm, seems that the ./configure or Makefile is very old
[10:04] <viviersf> how can the ./configure make problems with physical code in other files
[10:07] <viviersf> wghahaha
[10:07] <viviersf> i tell the dude next to me to apt-get apache
[10:07] <viviersf> so he picks up the bloody phone
[10:07] <viviersf> :/
[10:24] <StrikeForce> where do I lodge bug reports for dapper?
[10:25] <StrikeForce> anyone?
[10:25] <siretart> StrikeForce: probably malone
[10:26] <StrikeForce> siretart, is coreutils part of main?
[10:26] <siretart> sure
[10:26] <siretart> -> bugzilla :)
[10:26] <StrikeForce> sweet no worries?
[10:26] <siretart> I worry that bugzilla may be incredibly slow
[10:27] <StrikeForce> siretart, off topic but I registered in bugzilla and added my gpg key and signed the agreement?
[10:27] <StrikeForce> what else do I need to do to become a member?
[10:27] <siretart> StrikeForce: what is your lp id?
[10:27] <StrikeForce> MarcWiriadisastra
[10:28] <StrikeForce> I'd like to become and MOTU
[10:28] <siretart> StrikeForce: you need to register with launchpad
[10:28] <StrikeForce> I have
[10:28] <StrikeForce> sorry strikeforce
[10:28] <StrikeForce> I signed it yesterday
[10:29] <StrikeForce> https://launchpad.net/people/strikeforce
[10:29] <siretart> okay. then apply for the https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntumembers team
[10:29] <siretart> and try to attend the next CommunityCouncil
[10:29] <StrikeForce> thanks :)
[10:30] <siretart> we were thinking about changing this procedure a bit, but AFAIK we did not decide yet, so I'm telling you the procedures that I think that are valid :)
[10:31] <sivang> MOrning all
[10:31] <StrikeForce> siretart, I've just clicked on join the team
[10:33] <StrikeForce> siretart, are the meetings weekly?
[10:33] <siretart> I think biweekly
[10:34] <raphink> siretart: did you have a look at my key ? I've got several packages to upload ...
[10:34] <StrikeForce> sweet ok now what time is UTC to GMT?
[10:36] <siretart> raphink: done :)
[10:38] <raphink> argh
[10:40] <siretart> Mono 1.1.10 released! :)
[10:41] <StrikeForce> siretart, do we have to wait for mono to be packaged for debian?
[10:42] <StrikeForce> or do we package it ourselves for ubuntu?
[10:42] <siretart> StrikeForce: ask tseng
[10:42] <StrikeForce> oh ok
[10:56] <Nafallo> someone c++-sawy might want to take a look at the tse3-merge :-)
[11:02] <raphink> when running debuild on a package, I get errors from tar -xkf :
[11:02] <raphink> tar: kyamo/admin/acinclude.m4.in: Cannot open: File exists
[11:02] <raphink> tar: kyamo/admin/Doxyfile.am: Cannot open: File exists
[11:02] <raphink> tar: kyamo/admin/libtool.m4.in: Cannot open: File exists
[11:02] <raphink> and debuild exists with an status 2
[11:03] <siretart> raphink: did you try in pbuilder?
[11:03] <raphink> I need to build the source package first
[11:03] <raphink> I have no dsc yet
[11:03] <raphink> it used to build fine
[11:03] <siretart> oh
[11:03] <siretart> strange
[11:03] <raphink> but I just switched by rules to cdbs
[11:03] <raphink> it worked fine with a classic rules
[11:03] <siretart> cdbs is sometime quite unobvious
[11:04] <raphink> :s
[11:04] <raphink> yep
[11:04] <raphink> I just included debhelper.mk
[11:04] <raphink> hehe ;)
[11:05] <siretart> I'm using it for my 2 debian packages, though..
[11:06] <raphink> oh maybe I need autotools too
[11:07] <raphink> I'll see
[11:07] <raphink> hmm no :(
[11:10] <raphink> is there anything special to add when a package is using automake ?
[11:10] <raphink> apart from adding automake to the build deps
[12:50] <pef> hello
[12:51] <siretart> hi pef
[12:51] <pef> hello siretart  :)
[12:55] <pef> How breezy-updates works ? is it only for security fixes ?
[12:56] <tseng> major bugfixes
[12:56] <tseng> they have to be obvious fixes, no large complicated patch
[12:58] <pef> tseng: ok, and who should I contact ?
[12:59] <tseng> mdz
[01:23] <juliux> hi
[01:45] <raphink> I'm having a pb with tar in the creation of the source target
[01:45] <raphink> because it uses the -k option which crashes
[01:45] <raphink> dpkg-source: failure: tar -xkf - gave error exit status 2
[01:45] <raphink> tar: kyamo/admin/acinclude.m4.in: Cannot open: File exists
[01:45] <raphink> tar: kyamo/admin/Doxyfile.am: Cannot open: File exists
[01:45] <raphink> tar: kyamo/admin/libtool.m4.in: Cannot open: File exists
[01:45] <raphink> tar: Read 2048 bytes from -
[01:45] <raphink> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[01:46] <raphink> debuild: fatal error at line 765:
[01:46] <raphink> dpkg-buildpackage failed!
[01:46] <raphink> any way I could set that?
[01:46] <janimo> REVU needed and appreciated for thunar file manager, thanks
[02:07] <lucas> siretart: have you started working on a package ?
[02:08] <lucas> if not, I'd like to work on this
[02:10] <pmjdebruijn> lo all
[02:14] <xerxas> is there any plan for transition to initng for dapper ?
[02:14] <dholbach> xerxas: discussion was on ubuntu-devel@
[02:14] <dholbach> several times
[02:15] <dholbach> initng is considered to be immature
[02:15] <dholbach> and since dapper will be supported for 5 years on the server, i'd say no
[02:15] <Amaranth> dapper+1 will probably be the first to see a new init system
[02:16] <lucas> I remember reading sthing about a server for MOTUs
[02:16] <lucas> where they have an account and can run scripts
[02:17] <lucas> ah that's revu.tauware.de
[02:20] <siretart> lucas: on what package?
[02:20] <lucas> motu-tools
[02:20] <siretart> lucas: not yet, I'm still polishing some tools there
[02:20] <lucas> I mean packaging + daily builds
[02:20] <zakame> hello again :D
[02:21] <xerxas> dholbach: initng is considered immature because it's to young ?
[02:21] <siretart> lucas: commit the package, let me merge your branch, and then lets think how to make daily builds
[02:21] <siretart> commit your packaging, that is
[02:22] <dholbach> xerxas: i have never investigated it, but i heard quite a lot of people referring to it as a hack *shrug* i suggest you read the thread on ubuntu-devel@ - should be in the bootchart thread as well
[02:22] <pmjdebruijn> xerxas, init is a major piece of your environment, even the slightest doubt should prevent it from being included into dapper
[02:23] <zakame> Nafallo: my thanks again :)
[02:23] <xerxas> if noone includes it, it won't never be mature
[02:23] <Nafallo> :-)
[02:23] <xerxas> but maybe it's not ubuntu's job
[02:23] <zakame> xerxas: what's up with init-ng?
[02:24] <Nafallo> xerxas: it's not ubuntus job in the release they will support for 5 years, no.
[02:24] <Nafallo> 1.5 is bad enough.
[02:24] <xerxas> that's a a good point :)
[02:25] <raphink> anyone has got an idea about why my package will build using the -k option in tar when using cdbs and not when using a classic rules ?
[02:31] <lucas> siretart: I haven't worked on packaging yet
[02:32] <siretart> lucas: I'd suggest using simple debhelper magic
[02:32] <lucas> I'll work on this tonight
[02:33] <lucas> what's required to get an account on revu.tauware.de ?
[02:33] <lucas> is it a public system ?
[02:33] <lucas> (or is there a public system for MOTUs ?)
[02:34] <Amaranth> i think it uses your signed key
[02:34] <siretart> lucas: we agreed that every motu can apply for an account on tiber
[02:35] <lucas> ok
[02:35] <lucas> and how do one become a motu ? :)
[02:35] <zakame> wow, a motu-tools package!
[02:36] <Amaranth> lucas: become an ubuntu member, start getting some packages sponsored for upload, get your key signed by someone that gets you to ogra's key
[02:36] <Amaranth> so those in any order :P
[02:36] <Amaranth> err, do
[02:36] <xerxas> lucas: start by helping, packaging, fixing bugs ( and genrate a gpg key)
[02:36] <ogra_> (and get is signed ) ;)
[02:37] <ogra_> s/is/it
[02:37] <raphink> what is ogra's key Amaranth ?
[02:37] <raphink> I mean what's the reference of it?
[02:37] <Amaranth> ask him
[02:37] <ogra_> http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/mk_path.cgi?STAT=A2D06936&STATS=statistics
[02:37] <ogra_> try that url
[02:37] <raphink> or rather ogra what 'syour key?
[02:37] <lucas> well my key has been in the strongly connected set for 4 or 5 years I think ;)
[02:37] <raphink> ok
[02:37] <raphink> thanks
[02:37] <ogra_> if you get *any* kind of connection between your and my key, you should be fine
[02:37] <Amaranth> lucas: can you get a path from yours to ogra's?
[02:38] <lucas> Amaranth: *strongly connected set* ;)
[02:38] <siretart> lucas: what is your lp id?
[02:38] <raphink> ogra_: http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/mk_path.cgi?FROM=A2D06936&TO=74BF771E&PATHS=trust+paths
[02:38] <raphink> is that fine for you ? :D
[02:38] <ogra_> Amaranth, if he'S in the strong set :)
[02:38] <lucas> siretart: LNussbaum
[02:38] <lucas> http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/mk_path.cgi?FROM=A2D06936&TO=023B3F4F&PATHS=trust+paths
[02:38] <ogra_> raphink, looks good :)
[02:38] <raphink> :)
[02:38] <siretart> lucas: no, your launchpad id, that has to bee all lowercase
[02:38] <xerxas> can anybody point me to things to do ?
[02:39] <xerxas> (I didn't find bug I want to investigate on)
[02:39] <Nafallo> xerxas: /topic
[02:39] <xerxas> bugs
[02:39] <ogra_> xerxas, there is a MotuToMerge page ...
[02:39] <ogra_> start with this one
[02:39] <siretart> lucas: never mind, found it
[02:39] <lucas> ah
[02:40] <zakame> ogra_: how about my key, is it okay? :) http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/mk_path.cgi?STAT=FA53851D&STATS=statistics
[02:41] <ogra_> zakame, absolutely
[02:43] <xerxas> ogra_: do you understand this page ?
[02:43] <zakame> ogra_: wow, thanks :)
[02:43] <xerxas> this means for example that aatv is to be repackaged ?
[02:43] <xerxas> in http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/LOGS/mom.20051107.log aatv seems to have a 404 error
[02:44] <sistpoty> hi folks
[02:44] <zakame> xerxas: yes, some of the pkgs there have that
[02:45] <xerxas> zakame: these are packages that I can package ?
[02:45] <zakame> hi sistpoty , how do you do? :)
[02:46] <sistpoty> hi zakame, I'm fine, thx ;)
[02:47] <zakame> xerxas: no, they're already packaged ;)  but (motus, please correct my if i'm wrogn ;) if such a pkg needs any change, work on that and tell the motus about it, preferably in debdiff form :)
[02:48] <xerxas> zakame: so I don't understand the purpose of this file
[02:48] <xerxas> I can tell a motu or report a bug for any package
[02:48] <xerxas> not the ones that have 404 errors
[02:49] <ogra_> http://revu.tauware.de/~sistpoty/MoM/index.py?state=new
[02:49] <ogra_> that might be a better ressource
[02:49] <zakame> xerxas: the mom log is raw, ogra_ 's pointer is the better resource :)
[02:50] <zakame> xerxas: though if you are actually doing a merge, the raw log will be useful as it tells you where to get source pkgs for both debian and merged
[02:50] <xerxas> humm
[02:51] <xerxas> still don't understand where there's work to do
[02:51] <xerxas> can I try to repackage mono 1.1.10 ?
[02:51] <xerxas> and then beagke 0.12 ?
[02:51] <pmjdebruijn> xerxas, has already been released?
[02:52] <xerxas> yes
[02:52] <xerxas> yesterday or so
[02:52] <ogra_> xerxas, you should talk to the mono team for mono stuff (tseng and slomo for example)
[02:53] <ogra_> mono is far more than just repackaging ... you have to know in which order the packages need to be built ...
[02:53] <raphink> what does merging exctly consist in?
[02:53] <pmjdebruijn> xerxas, cool
[02:53] <ogra_> (if i understood right you dont have to boostrap the compiler aanymore, but it still needs decent knowledge about the packages)
[02:54] <dholbach> raphink: making sure that no changes either on debian/ubuntu side are dropped
[02:54] <raphink> hmmm
[02:54] <ogra_> raphink, merging means we did a change to a package in breezy...
[02:54] <pmjdebruijn> xerxas, on the subject of mono
[02:54] <ogra_> now debian has a new version with or without adopting these changes
[02:54] <pmjdebruijn> xerxas, could you take a look at this: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/mono/+bug/4531
[02:54] <Ubugtu`> Malone bug #4531: Newer MonoDevelop doesn't work properly Fix req. for: mono (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Mono Team, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/4531
[02:54] <xerxas> ogra_: ok mono will probably be too hard for me
[02:54] <raphink> hmm ok
[02:55] <xerxas> that is what I was thinking
[02:55] <xerxas> ogra_ for exemple gnome-gpg is to be repackaged for dapper ?
[02:55] <ogra_> we have to decide is the changes are still needed and reapply them if this is the case ... else we'll drop them and just sync the debian package
[02:55] <ogra_> thats the core of so called merging :)
[02:56] <xerxas> pmjdebruijn: looking at the link
[02:56] <xerxas> ogra_ so for exemple for gnome-gpg I need to look at the patches and try to know if I can remove some parts of it ?
[02:57] <zakame> wb highvoltage
[02:57] <ogra_> xerxas, exactly
[02:58] <highvoltage> zakame: thanks. connected through cell phone. internet connection very dodgy
[02:59] <zakame> highvoltage: wow, I haven't tried that before :)
[02:59] <highvoltage> my phone has a usb cable, all i need to do is plug it into laptop, and dial *99# :)
[03:00] <pmjdebruijn> xerxas, it's basically a small bugfix which will allow MonoDevelop 0.8 to run on Breezy without doing a major mono update
[03:02] <zakame> highvoltage: hmmm, I should try that sometime... when I get a cellphone ;)
[03:04] <highvoltage> :)
[03:24] <\sh> ogra: ping is it snowing at your place`
[03:24] <\sh> ?
[03:24] <ogra> nope
[03:24] <ogra> only raining
[03:24] <azeem> whoops, it's indeed raining here as well
[03:24] <Nafallo> neither here :_)
[03:24] <Nafallo> :-)
[03:27] <sistpoty> hey \sh, can you upload a package to universe for me?
[03:29] <\sh> sistpoty: sure i can....
[03:29] <sistpoty> cool... it's on tiber at /home/sistpoty/public_html/uploads (ghc6)
[03:29] <\sh> uahhhh
[03:29] <sistpoty> I hope that elmo will add me to the keyring soon *g*
[03:30] <ogra> sistpoty, since when are you approved as motu ? i think its about time he gets it done
[03:31] <sistpoty> ogra: quite some time... but I only mailed him last friday, since I didn't have anything to upload before that day
[03:31] <\sh> well...it takes time now...only 29kB
[03:31] <ogra> sistpoty, fine then :)
[03:31] <sistpoty> ' \sh: can't you directly ul from tiber?
[03:31] <hunger> \sh: Fixed the python stuff according to your suggestions from yesterday.
[03:31] <hunger> \sh: Thanks again for your help.
[03:32] <\sh> sistpoty: no
[03:32] <sistpoty> sh: ah, k
[03:32] <sistpoty> + \
[03:32] <sistpoty> ;)
[03:32] <\sh> sistpoty: source upload?
[03:32] <\sh> hunger: is it working?
[03:33] <sistpoty> ' \sh: I'll check, but imo yes
[03:33] <sistpoty> ' \sh: yes, new upstream version
[03:34] <hunger> \sh: I do hope so:-)
[03:34] <\sh> sistpoty: k
[03:34] <sistpoty> thx, \sh
[03:34] <hunger> \sh: Not really got around to test it yet (only just booted up the test machine).
[03:34] <\sh> hunger: i mean is lintian complaining again, or is it just still :)
[03:34] <\sh> s/still/silent/
[03:35] <hunger> \sh: Lintian is quiet.
[03:35] <hunger> \sh: I made python-xen arch any the last time round.
[03:35] <hunger> \sh: s/any/all/
[03:35] <hunger> \sh: It is any now, lintian has no more problem.
[03:37] <hunger> Is there a simple way to check which other debs a deb depends on?
[03:39] <\sh> apt-cache depends <package>?
[03:39] <\sh> sistpoty: u should get now a katie mail
[03:39] <sistpoty> cool, thx \sh
[03:39] <hunger> \sh: I do not have a apt repository for my stuff.
[03:40] <slomo_> xerxas: no need to do beagle 1.1.2 and mono 1.1.10... 1.1.10 is almost ready and i bet tseng will care for beagle ;) but you can ask him if you could take some work from him
[03:41] <hunger> Hmmm... any idea why my Depends: lines get ignored?
[03:42] <hunger> Stupid me... because I have typos in them.
 \sh: I made python-xen arch any the last time round.
 \sh: s/any/all/
 \sh: It is any now, lintian has no more problem.
[03:47] <ogra> does it nee to be "any" ?
[03:47] <ogra> i mean its only python bindings, right ?
[03:47] <slomo_> xerxas: but if you're interested in mono stuff consider joining #ubuntu-mono :)
[03:48] <slomo_> sistpoty: yay, ghc6 merged :)
[03:48] <sistpoty> slomo_: :)... but this will lead to at least one FTBFS (hmake)... but I've already got a patch :)
[03:48] <slomo_> sistpoty: then fix it ;)
[03:49] <slomo_> sistpoty: i'll get my hands on cabal later :) after doing some too simple analysis exercises ;)
[03:50] <sistpoty> slomo_: kk :)... hf with math. with hmake, I'll wait for ghc6 being built. If we're lucky, we might have a newer debian version then as well
[03:51] <slomo_> sistpoty: so we can just sync? perfect :) you work with the debian guys on that?
[03:52] <siretart> sistpoty: I was just uploading it to ubuntu, but I've seen ubuntu-changes earlier
[03:52] <slomo_> siretart: ?
[03:52] <xerxas> slomo_ ok
[03:52] <xerxas> thanks
[03:52] <siretart> I mean ghc6
[03:53] <sistpoty> slomo_: i filed a patch in BTS... ;)
[03:55] <hunger> \sh: It does work! OK, I actually exchanged "Depends:" with "Conflicts:" which did wreak some havok with my installed stuff, but that's a minor glitch;-)
[03:55] <raphink>  I'm trying to understand how to log in on REVU
[03:55] <raphink> I uploaded some packages
[03:55] <hunger> raphink: Go to the page.
[03:55] <raphink> I clicked on recover
[03:56] <raphink> and it's giving me an encrypted message
[03:56] <hunger> raphink: Enter your email and click on the "recover" link
[03:56] <raphink> I decoded this message
[03:56] <raphink> hunger: that's what I did
[03:56] <hunger> raphink: Decrypt the message: Voila your passwd.
[03:56] <raphink> nope hunger
[03:56] <raphink> not voil my passwd
[03:56] <raphink> that's the pb
[03:57] <raphink> the passwd it gives me doesn't work
[03:57] <hunger> raphink: What is in the file? Just a short rundom bunch of letters/numbers?
[03:57] <raphink> nope hunger
[03:59] <sistpoty> hunger: what's the email-addy you use for revu (the one you signed packages you uploaded to revu)?
[03:59] <raphink> hunger: PM
[04:00] <sistpoty> erm... raphink even ;)
[04:00] <raphink> sistpoty: I use raphink@raphink.net to sign my packages
[04:00] <raphink> but I sent my request to join the keyring from raphink@gmail.com
[04:00] <raphink> the key contains both adds
[04:04] <hunger> sistpoty: The one I give in debian/changelog.
[04:04] <hunger> raphink: PM?
[04:04] <raphink> nm hunger
[04:06] <sistpoty> hunger: I meant raphink, sorry
[04:17] <Riddell> siretart: could REVU handle UniverseCandidates?
[04:18] <siretart> Riddell: what do you exactly mean with that?
[04:18] <ogra> Riddell, didnt we talk about RT for UniverseCandidates ?
[04:18] <Riddell> ogra: RT?
[04:18] <siretart> ogra: RT?
[04:19] <Riddell> siretart: just that it's a large database which might be nicer in a database rather than a big wiki page
[04:19] <ogra> request tracker
[04:19] <ogra> a oss ticket system ...
[04:19] <siretart> ogra: canonical rt or an extra rt for universe?
[04:19] <ogra> we talked about it in serveral motu meetings
[04:20] <siretart> ogra: do you have experience with installing and maintaining a rt setup?
[04:20] <ogra> siretart, since the traffic wont be much i thought we could have it on tiber ?
[04:20] <ogra> nope, but its easy, i sadly havent got the time for much universe work ...
[04:21] <siretart> well, I had a look at that a few years ago
[04:21] <siretart> if someone feels like seting one up on tiber, I don't mind
[04:22] <siretart> Riddell: now I understand. I think that should make much trouble in revu2, but I'm still at fiddling with the ground work for revu2
[04:22] <siretart> Riddell: I'm not going to invest much time and energy in the old revu1 codebase
[04:22] <Riddell> no, it would be for revu 2
[04:23] <siretart> for revu2, that is a good suggestions. thanks
[04:23] <Riddell> revu 2 should have tags for different teams, so I can see only Kubuntu related packages
[04:23] <siretart> hm
[04:24] <siretart> tagging.. hmmhmm
[04:24] <siretart> how should that work? maintaining an override database?
[04:24] <siretart> or let the users tag their packages?
[04:24] <ogra> and how do you manage overlaps ?
[04:25] <ogra> i.e. kdeedu is edubuntu as well as kubuntu
[04:25] <siretart> not at all? ;)
[04:26] <siretart> honestly, I did not plan to have 'tags' on uploads. but the new ui will make the process more clear and efficent anyway, so I don't think there would be a need for that
[04:29] <Riddell> siretart: just tag through the web interface, multiple tags can be selected for kubuntu and edubuntu etc
[04:31] <sistpoty> Riddell, siretart: tagging is not an initial plan... and actually I don't want to overload revu2 with features at this moment...
[04:31] <siretart> sistpoty: right
[04:31] <sistpoty> Riddell: once revu2 is actually working, we can still (and much easier than with revu1's codebase) add such things
[04:31] <Riddell> aye
[04:31] <siretart> it shouldn't be that hard to extend the database to hold those tags
[04:32] <sistpoty> I don't think so ;)
[04:33] <[splinux] > hi all
[04:35] <siretart> hi jdong_
[04:35] <jdong_> hey
[04:39] <jdong_> Any timeline for FreeNX/Universe?
[04:40] <ogra> jdong_, dunno if Mithrandir still cares for it ...
[04:40] <jdong_> I was told that a FreeNX god joined MOTU at UBZ....
[04:40] <jdong_> this morning on ubuntu-backports
[04:41] <ogra> yes ...
[04:41] <jdong_> so is he gonna accelerate the process of FreeNX in MOTU?
[04:41] <ogra> i would rather call him a  NX Contributor, dunno about his god status :)
[04:41] <jdong_> lol, whatever :)
[04:41] <jdong_> more godly than me
[04:41] <jdong_> (though that isn't hard to do)
[04:45] <geekitus> hi all
[04:45] <zakame> hmm, setting --build= and --host= to i486-pc-linux-gnu is bogging down my i686 machine :/
[04:46] <jdong_> really?
[04:46] <zakame> yes, building libcommoncpp2 here is taking ages with that... just modified debian/rules to build without setting those opts, now builds FAST
[04:58] <siretart> lucas: progress on packaging?
[05:03] <lucas> no, still in the lab
[05:03] <lucas> I'll work on this tonight
[05:03] <lucas> [17:03:19]  here
[05:07] <siretart> oh. okay
[05:08] <siretart> same for me
[05:08] <siretart> germany and france share the same timezone ;)
[05:11] <zakame> can somebody please check Malone #4093 , libcommoncpp2 merge? thanks in advance :)
[05:11] <Ubugtu`> Error: Could not parse XML returned by Malone bugzilla: Connection to Malone bugzilla failed: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
[05:16] <Nafallo> zakame: yes
[05:16] <Nafallo> zakame: could you please merge the changelog aswell?
[05:18] <zakame> Nafallo: hmm, seems I need to edit the changelog a bit, there was some duplication
[05:18] <Nafallo> zakame: rather you didn't put in the ubuntu changes in the right order :-)
[05:19] <Nafallo> zakame: baah, I can do it btw.
[05:19] <zakame> Nafallo: yes, but actually it's already there in the earlier merge, prolly in debian.patch
[05:21] <Nafallo> one of them yes.
[05:22] <Nafallo> anyway, I fixed the changelog :-)
[05:22] <Nafallo> giving it to pbuilder to chew on now :-)
[05:22] <zakame> yeah, the one from 1.3.10-3ubuntu1 :)  my thanks again :D
[05:23] <zakame> hihi, pbuilder love
[05:24] <Nafallo> hmm, the build-logs haven't been updated for awhile :-/
[05:24] <zakame> waah
[05:25] <Nafallo> and I haven't got mail to dapper-changes about my syncs
[05:26] <zakame> hmmm
[05:26] <Nafallo> uploading anyway
[05:28] <zakame> so I suppose I no longer need to upload the updated debdiff? :)
[05:28] <Nafallo> indeed
[05:30] <zakame> hehe :) again, many thanks
[05:32] <zakame> good night all :D
[05:47] <siretart> lucas: \sh_away: I worked more on my motu-tools branch. please merge from my place
[05:48] <lucas> you place ?
[05:48] <lucas> your place ?
[05:48] <siretart> http://tiber.tauware.de/~siretart/motu-tools
[05:52] <siretart> ogra_: do you have a minute?
[05:52] <ogra_> sure
[05:52] <siretart> ogra_: could you please upload this for me: http://tiber.tauware.de/~siretart/main/
[05:52] <siretart> ogra_: mdz is okay with that change, and I'm not in the main keyring yet
[05:53] <ogra_> if the changelog is right, i'm fine with uploading
[05:53] <siretart> thanks
[05:54] <siretart> cu later
[06:11] <xerxas> how do I switch to dapper ? sed 's/breezy/dapper/g' on sources.list ?
[06:11] <slomo> yes
[06:11] <xerxas> can I install breeezy from a running system ?
[06:11] <xerxas> let say with debootstrap ?
[06:12] <slomo> yes but it's probably not that easy ;)
[06:12] <xerxas> why so  ?
[06:15] <Amaranth> you have to do it in a chroot
[06:17] <xerxas> Amaranth, chroot where 
[06:17] <xerxas> ?
[06:17] <Amaranth> http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html
[06:51] <xerxas> sudo debootstrap --arch i386 dapper /media/hda2/ http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu dapper
[06:51] <xerxas> not tested but supposed to do the whole thing
[06:52] <xerxas> then I'll run base-config at that will do the job probably
[06:52] <azeem> --variant=buildd should be enough
[06:52] <xerxas> (maybe vi /etc/fstab)
[06:52] <azeem> for usage with sbuild or pbuilder, I guess
[06:52] <Nafallo> remove the last dapper probably
[06:53] <xerxas> Nafallo, you're probablt right
[07:03] <lfittl> Short packaging question: should I rename the source package if there is already a source package with the same name? (binary names are different..)
[07:03] <ogra> nope, you should use this source package instead of doubling the amount of sources in the archive ;)
[07:05] <azeem> lfittl: is it a different program with the same name?
[07:05] <lfittl> azeem: yep ;)
[07:05] <lfittl> libloki & loki
[07:05] <azeem> well, I believe you cannot have another source package with the same name as an existing one
[07:06] <lfittl> k, thanks
[07:06] <ogra> is this the biology thing ?
[07:07] <azeem> was bddebian at UBZ?
[07:07] <ogra> nope
[07:07] <ogra> not to my knowledge
[07:07] <azeem> hrm, did he drop off the net?
[07:07] <ogra> seems like... havent seen him since before ubz
[07:08] <lfittl> ogra: yep, but the package I am working on is libloki, because the version in universe is really outdated..
[07:08] <ogra> so rather get it updated then ;)
[07:09] <ogra> is there a newer one in debian we could sync by chance ?
[07:09] <lfittl> no :/
[07:09] <ogra> to bad
[07:10] <ogra> then just work on it as a replacement, try to base it on the existing package
[07:11] <lfittl> that's what i'm doing, the only thing I was not sure about was the source package name ;)
[07:11] <ogra> keep it so it gets superseded
[07:11] <ogra> ...by a new version
[07:14] <lfittl> ogra: do you have time to review the package on revu?
[07:15] <ogra> not right now, sorry
[07:16] <lfittl> k, no problem ;)
[07:17] <Nafallo> hmm
[07:18] <Nafallo> ogra: care to make an extra check on that decision? :-/
[07:19] <ogra> how much changes are there to the debian version ?
[07:19] <ogra> did you try the debian one ?
[07:20] <Nafallo> yea, but the change are one of daniels. to include the correct dir to the x-fonts.
[07:20] <Nafallo> I have no idea how to test that or what the symptoms are really.
[07:21] <Nafallo> ubuntu #16481
[07:22] <Nafallo> Ubugtu`: bugzilla #16481
[07:22] <Ubugtu`> Error: Could not parse XML returned by Ubuntu Bugzilla bugzilla: Connection to Ubuntu Bugzilla bugzilla failed: Connection timed out.
[07:22] <Ubugtu`> Show a link to a bug report with a brief description
[07:24] <Nafallo> oh. seems easy enough to test.
[07:24] <Nafallo> nm me ;-)
[07:28] <slomo> hm, rosetta is evil :( it doesn't include copyright, author, etc of new .po files...
[07:31] <jamessan|work> what type of bot is Ubugtu`?
[07:32] <Nafallo> jamessan: a non-working one :-)
[07:32] <jamessan|work> Nafallo: heh, but is it a custom one or is it based off one of the well-known bots?
[07:32] <Nafallo> ah, ask Seveas.
[07:32] <jamessan|work> a /whois didn't give much info
[07:46] <sistpoty> grml... ghc6 rejected to build :(
[08:14] <Tonio_> hi
[08:14] <jamessan|work> Seveas: I'm told you're the one I should talk to about what type of bot Ubugtu` is  :)
[08:14] <Tonio_> little question
[08:14] <Seveas> Ubugtu`, is a supybot
[08:14] <jamessan|work> sweet :)
[08:15] <Tonio_> are there any reasons that there is no freenx package at the moment ?
[08:15] <Seveas> they're not good enough for Xorg 7 yet
[08:16] <jamessan|work> Seveas: is that the original bugzilla plugin it's using or did you write your own?
[08:16] <Seveas> I have working packages in my personal repository, but these contain workarounds to make them work with xorg 7
[08:16] <Seveas> jamessan, a heavily hacked up bugzilla plugin that now supports malone too and is in desperate need of a rewrite (ehich is halfway done)
[08:16] <Tonio_> Seveas: it is still optimised for xfree ?
[08:17] <Seveas> Tonio_, it is designed to work with the non-modular X
[08:17] <Tonio_> Seveas: okay
[08:17] <Tonio_> Seveas: thanks for the explanation
[08:19] <jamessan|work> Seveas: cool.  when you finish the rewrite, I could include it with the supybot-plugins tarball we distribute.  the old plugin never made the 0.83 transition
[08:20] <Gloubiboulga> hello
[08:22] <Seveas> jamessan, are you the supybot maintainer?
[08:22] <Seveas> jamessan|work*
[08:24] <jamessan|work> I'm the upstream, yes.  Been rather inactive lately, unfortunately.  just small bug-fixes
[08:25] <Seveas> k, good to know :)
[09:00] <Nafallo> hmm
[09:01] <Nafallo> the mailing-lists will be delivered later or something?
[09:03] <hunger> join #ubuntu-devel
[09:13] <[splinux] > hi all , how can i do for upload my package ?
[09:14] <dholbach> [splinux] : what are you trying to do?
[09:33] <hunger_> Sorry, lost my connection.
[10:00] <azeem> Riddell: The award was called
[10:00] <azeem> args
[10:00] <azeem> 'best Debian Derivate', so it's no wonder Debian didn't get a mention
[10:01] <Riddell> the award did seem kinday custom made for Ubuntu
[10:01] <hunger_> Mest Debian Derivate sounds a lot like "We want to give a award to ubuntu... what could we call the category?
[10:01] <azeem> yeah, it is strange they only had 'Best Enterprise Distribution' as alternative
[10:02] <hunger_> azeem:  ... where SuSE won!
[10:03] <Nafallo> PRE-dapper ;-)
[10:03] <azeem> Riddell: Debian won the 'Best distribution' awawrd in 2002 and 2003, Skolelinux/debian-edu won last year
[10:04] <azeem> and IIRC most of the other places have been seized by Debian derivates in the last years as well
[10:04] <azeem> so I guess they just decided to rename the category, reflecting reality
[10:06] <hunger_> Pazzo: Konqueror does waste so much memory or so it seems.
[10:07] <hunger_> Pazzo: Haven't restarted it in weeks:-)
[10:08] <hub> hi
[10:08] <hub> I get more and more request for my hugin package still waiting on REVU
[10:11] <dholbach> hub: isn't it just a license issue now?
[10:11] <dholbach> "just"
[10:13] <hub> dholbach: I clarified it
[10:13] <hub> dholbach: that's what I was asked
[10:16] <dholbach> hub: gave my ok
[10:16] <hub> thx
[10:24] <lfittl> dholbach: Do you have some time to review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=938?
[10:25] <LaserJock> does anybody know the difference between vim-gnome and vim-gtk?
[10:26] <dholbach> lfittl: i was just about to leave - i'll add it to my list
[10:26] <lfittl> dholbach: ok thanks
[10:26] <dholbach> lfittl: i'll do it tomorrow
[10:26] <lfittl> dholbach: perfect :)
[10:26] <dholbach> super
[10:26] <dholbach> see you around
[11:16] <bmonty_laptop> siretart: can you please nuke gphpedit from REVU?
[11:16] <bmonty_laptop> bzflag also
[11:17] <lfittl> dholbach: perfect :)
[11:17] <lfittl> argh
[11:17] <lfittl> sry
[11:20] <sistpoty> bmonty_laptop: do you want gphpedit/bzflag nuked? then they're gone forever from the revu db
[11:21] <bmonty_laptop> sistpoty: yeah, there isn't much point in having them there because they will be synched (bzflag is already done)
[11:21] <sistpoty> bmonty_laptop: ok, will do
[11:21] <bmonty_laptop> thanks
[11:22] <siretart> oh, I already did
[11:22] <siretart> hi sistpoty, huhu bmonty_laptop :)
[11:22] <siretart> just returned home
[11:22] <sistpoty> hi siretart
[11:22] <siretart> and figured out how to do a basic config with whereami. cool crack, btw ;)
[11:22] <sistpoty> siretart: maybe you didn't nuke all uploads of bzflag/gpphpedit... i just nuked them as well ;)
[11:23] <siretart> sistpoty: ooh, I remember, the nuke link just nukes that upid
[11:23] <sistpoty> yep
[11:23] <bmonty_laptop> where is the nuke link?
[11:23] <siretart> sistpoty: perhaps we should hack something so that it nukes all corresponding uploads recusivly
[11:23] <sistpoty> bmonty_laptop: you need to be admin for revu to do this
[11:24] <siretart> bmonty_laptop: sorry, admins only
[11:24] <bmonty_laptop> ahhh
[11:24] <sistpoty> siretart: maybe we should... at least for revu2 ;)
[11:24] <siretart> sistpoty: yepp.
[11:24] <Nafallo> admins + uploader would be better IMO :-)
[11:24] <sistpoty> sure thing, Nafallo ;)
[11:25] <sistpoty> just a very stupid shell-scripting question: how can i do a tail +<n> properly? (i.e. skip the first <n> lines and output the rest)
[11:26] <sistpoty> (ghc6 ftbfs from this, because newest dapper tail doesn't support tail +n any longer :(
[11:29] <siretart> thats strange. why doesnt dapper tail +n dropped support for that?
[11:29] <azeem> sistpoty: that got reverted in Debian since
[11:29] <azeem> * [99]  Revert change to POSIX version override (I forgot about +n usage)
[11:29] <azeem>      I once again *strongly* urge people to convert to more portable syntax.
[11:29] <azeem>      (search NEWS for POSIX 1003.1-2001)
[11:29] <azeem>      (Closes: #339085)
[11:29] <siretart> you could work around with awk, but thats a bit ugly..
[11:29] <azeem> (I think)
[11:30] <minghua> sistpoty: I have a question about your MoM pages
[11:30] <minghua> sistpoty: I've decided to take grace and grace6
[11:31] <minghua> sistpoty: I filed malone bug, assigned to MOTU merge team, but it still shown as "new" on your page, not "accpeted" as I expect it to be
[11:31] <sistpoty> minghua: mom, I'll take a look at the bugs
[11:32] <Nafallo> ubuntu-universe-bugs haven't got updated yet.
[11:33] <Nafallo> the page uses that one to check for status :-)
[11:34] <hub> LaserJock: vim-gnome depend on gnome
[11:34] <hub> LaserJock: gvim-gtk just on gtk
[11:34] <minghua> sistpoty: It's bug #4400 and #4403, thanks
[11:34] <Ubugtu> Malone bug #4400: grace6: merge new debian version Fix req. for: grace6 (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Merge Team, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/4400
[11:35] <sistpoty> Nafallo: no, there are bugs in my inbox... just wondering why this didn't work
[11:37] <Nafallo> sistpoty: oh? against what source was the last bug?
[11:38] <sistpoty> grace and grace6... and my script produces the fine output "there was s.th. wrong" :(
[11:38] <sistpoty> lol
[11:38] <Nafallo> hmm
[11:38] <Nafallo> only my mail-server that has a big delay?
[11:38] <Nafallo> (just got bug 4540 in my mailbox)
[11:38] <Ubugtu> Malone bug #4540: gnomebaker percentage done is negative Fix req. for: gnomebaker (Ubuntu), Severity: Minor, Assigned to: MOTU, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/4540
[11:40] <tseng> xerxas: what are you trying to do?
[11:42] <bmonty_laptop> Nafallo: can you please take a look at Malone #4550
[11:42] <Ubugtu> Error: Could not parse XML returned by Malone bugzilla: Connection to Malone bugzilla failed: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
[11:43] <sistpoty> minghua: you changed the assignee by the web-tool? seems like no mail regarding a change of bugstate has come to universe-bugs-list. Since I need this to find out if a merge should be marked as fixed, my script bails out...
[11:44] <Nafallo> bmonty_laptop: O'm on it :-)
[11:44] <Nafallo> s/O/I/
[11:44] <bmonty_laptop> thanks :)
[11:45] <sistpoty> minghua: I'll try setting bug-status for grace in malone from new to accepted, and check if s.th. changes...
[11:45] <sistpoty> minghua: I'll also fix the script ;)
[11:47] <minghua> sistpoty: yes, I used the web-tool, no time to play bazaar yet
[11:50] <minghua> sistpoty: but there _is_ a mail about status change to universe-bugs list, http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/universe-bugs/2005-November/002856.html
[11:50] <minghua> sistpoty: there is no mail about the bug get filed
[11:51] <minghua> sistpoty: or are you talking about something else by universe-bugs-list?
[11:51] <sistpoty> minghua: actually the exact thing that's missing is a mail with s.th. like "Status (New) => Accepted" or "Status: new"...
[11:52] <sistpoty> minghua: but i just fixed the script, so that a team-assignment will also update the MoM-database ;)
[11:52] <sistpoty> minghua: thx for noting this ;)
[11:52] <minghua> I see.  So it seems I'm the only one using web-tool now? :-)
[11:53] <minghua> sistpoty: sure, thank you for fixing it so fast :-)
[11:53] <Nafallo> yepp :-)
[11:53] <sistpoty> minghua: n.p.... I know the regexp from the script ;)