[12:00] <mindtzar> anyone got any tips on how to get limewire working on ubuntu?
[12:00] <Rawplayer> still to much useless stuff installed
[12:00] <jandusion> anyone knows anout counter strike 1.6 for linux.... not server... but client
[12:00] <gnomefreak> all depends on what your using it for
[12:00] <SlitherX> HrdwrBoB, thnx!!!.... really... thank you ;)
[12:00] <mindtzar> gnomefreak, you talking to me there?
[12:00] <jandusion> to play online
[12:01] <gnomefreak> no mindtzar  i was talking to Rawplayer
[12:01] <mindtzar> oh, k
[12:01] <HrdwrBoB> SlitherX: no worries, I use it all the time
[12:01] <selinium> Stormx2, Have you got a /dev/hdc  ?
[12:01] <robbie_> hi all
[12:01] <mdke> what are the choices I have (software-wise) for uploading music to an ipod?
[12:01] <Stormx2> selinium: yeah. I've just enabled DMA. Should I do the same for my other cd rom drive?
[12:01] <gnomefreak> mindtzar, as for limewire i saw someone the other day say they got it running just they didnt say how
[12:01] <robbie_> just upgraded to breezy from hoary and when i try run openoffice2 i get "no suitable windowing system found, exiting.
[12:01] <robbie_> "
[12:01] <Stormx2> selinium: That won't cause conflict right?
[12:02] <mindtzar> gnomefreak, I was gonna emulate the windows version if I couldn't get it to work
[12:02] <selinium> Stormx2, Yep I would, And have a look in google for hdparm tutorials if you are looking to get the bleeding edge from your drives.
[12:02] <selinium> Stormx2, It should do, no.
[12:02] <gnomefreak> mindtzar, give me a sec i thought i ran across something on that
[12:02] <selinium> Stormx2, It shouldn't do, no.
[12:02] <superbeast> is there away to get america's army 64 bit or source code?
[12:03] <Stormx2> selinium: OK. And once i've done this, do I need a reboot?
[12:03] <mdke> superbeast, if it's not on their website, then no, unlikely
[12:03] <selinium> Stormx2, nope, this isn't windows!
[12:03] <Stormx2> selinium: Well actually, lets see if I can rip at about 0.5x
[12:03] <superbeast> is there a way to run 32 bit program in 64 bit ubuntu?
[12:04] <darksoul> NoUse: what do i scan
[12:04] <Stormx2> Get an axe
[12:04] <Stormx2> And chop your processer in half.
[12:04] <mindtzar> I thought 64bit OSs ran 32bit apps fine
[12:04] <jandusion> selinium, i got an 2mb/s internett cable @ home... why am i only downloading in 1.50-2.0k/s??
[12:04] <gnomefreak> mindtzar,  are you runnign breezy?
[12:04] <mindtzar> gnomefreak, erm, yeah I think
[12:04] <HrdwrBoB> mindtzar: it's more complicated than that
[12:04] <NoUse> darksoul memtest and bad sector scan
[12:04] <kemik_> ergh
[12:04] <kemik_> !nat
[12:04] <ubotu> kemik_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:04] <kemik_> !NAT
[12:04] <ubotu> kemik_: Are you on ritalin?
[12:04] <selinium> jandusion, Seveas repo must be getting a hammering
[12:04] <kemik_> ... so this kind of SUX
[12:04] <mdke> what are the choices I have (software-wise) for uploading music to an ipod?
[12:05] <gnomefreak> mindtzar,  check your help icon i know its in there for 32 bit but i dont know how 64 differs
[12:05] <jandusion> selinium, and how can i make it go faster???
[12:05] <Stormx2> selinium: Managing a fantastic 3.5x and getting slower.
[12:05] <darksoul> NoUse: i think you might be right...its 300gb, and it was only like 80$ when we bought it
[12:05] <mindtzar> gnomefreak, I'm running 32 :P
[12:05] <kemik_> i cant get internetaccess from this box, because my server doesnt route the packages (server running ubuntu..)
[12:05] <gnomefreak> mindtzar, than its in there sir
[12:05] <selinium> jandusion, it is being throttled at the other end...
[12:05] <shadeofgrey> guys can somebody PLEASE post the link to the GOOD sources.list file for breezy that includes the backports i need to install openoffice.org 2.0 FULL stable release?
[12:05] <snadge-w> reiserfs sucks.. i just did a 400mb dist upgrade over 128k isdn, it finished and apt crashed out.. then when i ran it again, it had to download the 400mb again.. grrs!
[12:05] <gnomefreak> its listed under internet
[12:05] <bur[n] er> shadeofgrey: http://burner.ath.cx/sources.list <--mine
[12:05] <Stormx2> Jesus christ. I'll just burn and rip audio cds in windows. :-\
[12:06] <darksoul> NoUse: IF you are right i will hurt somthing
[12:06] <glick> i like reiserfes
[12:06] <jandusion> selinium, ok there is nothing i can do about it....
[12:06] <snadge-w> so i had to run reiserfs --rebuildtree
[12:06] <mindtzar> gnomefreak, I do believe I'm running Breezy
[12:06] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: use dma?
[12:06] <Stormx2> bur[n] er: Yep
[12:06] <selinium> Stormx2, Like i said take a look at some tutorials on line. I need to hit the sack 23:06 here!
[12:06] <Stormx2> bur[n] er: Just enabled it.
[12:06] <glick> i never had a prob with reiser
[12:06] <Stormx2> selinium: Same here.
[12:06] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: using what to rip?
[12:06] <snadge-w> glick: i've been using it for years.. thats the first time i've seen that happen
[12:06] <Stormx2> bur[n] er: Sound juicer.
[12:06] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: hrm... i have no idea how to change sound juicer
[12:06] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: try grip?
[12:07] <Stormx2> selinium: Actually, it is staying level at 3.5x-ish. Thats an improvement. Before it was starting off around there and dropping off.
[12:07] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: u can then turn off the "correction error" stuff in grip to make it run faster
[12:07] <Stormx2> bur[n] er: It has issues with encoders.
[12:07] <bur[n] er> grip did?
[12:07] <Stormx2> Yep.
[12:07] <mdke> Stormx2, you'll find a guide which has details of how to rip cd's with soundjuicer on help.ubuntu.com
[12:08] <NoUse> darksoul you can use badblocks to scan the disk
[12:08] <Stormx2> mdke: I put the cd in. Sound juicer opens on its own. I press extract.
[12:08] <NoUse> darksoul memtest has a bootable iso
[12:08] <selinium> jandusion, I dont think so no... I need to get some sleep. let me konw how you get on... :)
[12:08] <jandusion> selinium, good night man, and thanks for the help so faar
[12:08] <Stormx2> selinium: Looks like it has helped a little. :-) Lets hope my MP3s don't skip.
[12:08] <dirkson> Hey all- I'm trying to get a network connection set up in ubuntu linux, but I just can't see where to add my ethernet card. The device manager sees it, but networking doesn't list it :-/
[12:08] <darksoul> NoUse: i think you might be wrong...suse worked once
[12:08] <Stormx2> Oh joy. Sound juicer crashed.
[12:08] <dirkson> Anyone know how do go about that sort of thing?
[12:09] <selinium> Stormx2, I hopoe not, goonight for now!
[12:09] <Stormx2> That'll teach me to focus another window when it is busy ripping.
[12:09] <selinium> jandusion, np and good night!
[12:09] <Stormx2> selinium: night!
[12:09] <mdke> hmm
[12:09] <Stormx2> selinium: and thanks very much for the help
[12:09] <mdke> cd-ripping is no longer in RestrictedFormats
[12:09] <NoUse> darksoul you keep debating with me whether I'm right or wrong, I'm just making suggestions + a HD can go bad so it might have been fine when you installed SUSE
[12:09] <mdke> that blows
[12:09] <selinium> Stormx2, no problems  :)
[12:09] <Hostile> Whenever I need to to something which requires password, the box freezes so I can not enter password or or do anything in that desktop, ctrl-alt-bkspace works. Advice?
[12:10] <Stormx2> I am so sick of sound juicer though...
[12:10] <Stormx2> It does my head in.
[12:10] <mdke> Hostile, what version of Ubuntu?
[12:10] <kemik_> can anyone tell me what i need to perform NAT in ubuntu!?
[12:10] <NoUse> kemik_ install firestarter
[12:10] <kemik_> it worked in debian so why doesnt it work with ubuntu?
[12:10] <darksoul> NoUse: well if it doesnt work i have a rare idea....im prob going to switch my hdd from this computer that does work into my other one and run linux form it...would that work?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> nouse: i ran into someone the other day that fought with me on the help i gave they asked for the help they dont wanna try it its their own fault
[12:10] <kemik_> NoUse: not using X
[12:11] <NoUse> kemik_ then you need to learn iptables
[12:11] <lazyant> kemik: iptables masquarade and enable ipforwarding
[12:11] <darksoul> NoUse: i dont mean gui or anything, but would it run on a amd if its in a intel atm
[12:11] <Stormx2> Sound juicer is having another try at ripping.
[12:11] <Stormx2> *sigh*
[12:11] <themuffenmann> what's up guys.
[12:11] <kemik_> lazyant: doing that.. but i just realized i perhaps need to add a default route ?
[12:12] <NoUse> darksoul problem solve, figure out whats causing the crash
[12:12] <mindtzar> I wish the milkman would deliver my milk, in the morning
[12:12] <dirkson> I'm trying to get my network card working- The device manager sees it, but the networking doesn't list it. :-/ I've edited /etc/network/interfaces, but that doesn't seem to help. Anyone have any ideas?
[12:12] <Hostile> mdke, Dapper Drake
[12:12] <dirkson> *networking app
[12:13] <Stormx2> Haha guess what. Sound juicer *always* crashed on track 6 of any cd.
[12:13] <mdke> Hostile, known bug, fixed now. in future, make sure you state it when you ask a question about dapper drake
[12:13] <lazyant> kemik: the "gateway" box should already have a default route, usually the network device upstream. The boxes connected to it should have your gwy as default route
[12:13] <Hostile> mdke, How do I fix?
[12:13] <mdke> Hostile, you don't, the developers fix
[12:13] <mdke> Hostile, just update tomorrow
[12:13] <Hostile> Right, but you said its fixed now?
[12:13] <kemik_> lazyant: mmm..
[12:13] <mindtzar> heh, switching over to ubuntu was the best decision I ever made
[12:14] <mindtzar> now all my friends are using it
[12:14] <Hostile> an update now wont have the fix?
[12:14] <Stormx2> Guess what. The only reason the rip speed wasn't dropping off was because i was encoding to flac
[12:14] <mdke> Hostile, not sure, why?
[12:14] <Stormx2> this is fucking ridiculous.
[12:14] <lazyant> kemik: check 1st ipforwarding to check connectivity, tehn add NAT
[12:14] <Stormx2> It takes 20 damned minutes to boot into windows and rip these cds...
[12:14] <Stormx2> I'd rather do it in ubuntu
[12:14] <Stormx2> but i'm considering it
[12:14] <Stormx2> DONT MAKE ME DO IT
[12:15] <Stormx2> 3.0x
[12:15] <Stormx2> 2.9x
[12:15] <Hostile> mdke, well I can just do an apt-get dist-upgrade....and I was wondering if it would include the patch
[12:15] <kemik_> lazyant: well im irc-ing from the server right now
[12:15] <kemik_> and actualyl SSH'ed into the server so this is my NATed box...
[12:15] <Stormx2> 2.8x
[12:15] <mdke> Hostile, it may do, it may not. you've got to be patient if you run the development distribution, especially at such an early stage
[12:15] <Hostile> mdke, yeah
[12:15] <Stormx2> 2.7x.......
[12:15] <Stormx2> Fuck it
[12:15] <Stormx2> I'm going onto windows
[12:15] <Hostile> I used to run unstable debian
[12:15] <Stormx2> This is ridiculous.
[12:15] <Hostile> it was even worse
[12:16] <NoUse> Stormx2 please watch your language
[12:16] <superbeast> is there a way to downgrade to 32 bit ubuntu w/o redownloading and burning a cd?
[12:16] <Stormx2> NoUse: Watching it. I know what i'm typing.
[12:16] <mdke> Stormx2, watch it, as in, don't use bad language
[12:16] <Stormx2> ok already.
[12:16] <Stormx2> 2.6x
[12:16] <mdke> and stop posting useless stuff about the speed of your rip.
[12:16] <hjack> Hey, how come when I change my screen resolution and choose the option of making this my default it never saves next time boot up?
[12:16] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: we don't need a play by play
[12:16] <lazyant> kemik: so you are ssh'ed from a box to your server in a LAN and you want your server to NAT to your box?
[12:16] <bur[n] er> ;)
[12:17] <NoUse> you know what I love when I'm volunteering to help people, when they cop an attitude
[12:17] <Nihil85> mdke, i can't access the Shared Folders in my laptop. The window appears but after a second it freezes. how can i fix this problem?
[12:17] <mdke> NoUse, group hug!
[12:17] <darksoul> NoUse: it doesnt say if there bad, but it says under misc Sectors/block... 16... im running this off a MaxBlast 4 cd
[12:17] <bigmoe> i have a question i have ubuntu and i want to install windows but i do not know how and ubuntu has taken all my hda
[12:17] <Stormx2> NoUse: You know what I hate. Sound juicer ^.^
[12:17] <NoUse> Stormx2 have you tried another ripping program?
[12:17] <bur[n] er> bigmoe: try #windows ;)
[12:17] <Stormx2> I'ma try and get grip working again.
[12:17] <dirkson> I'm trying to get my network card working- The device manager sees it, but the networking app doesn't list it. :-/ I've edited /etc/network/interfaces, but that doesn't seem to help. Anyone have any ideas? (Please pardon multiple posts. Third time's the charm?)
[12:17] <mdke> Nihil85, no idea, sorry. I don't use samba
[12:18] <Stormx2> bur[n] er: In freenode?!
[12:18] <bigmoe> didnt get u bur[n] er
[12:18] <hjack> bigmoe, there is a program called qtpart that will help you resize your partitons........I think your also going to have to manually add windows into your grub
[12:18] <hjack> I think the windows install will erase grun all together i believe
[12:18] <bur[n] er> bigmoe: Stormx2: sarcasm... good luck finding windows support here ;)
[12:18] <hjack> If you have any of the live distros most have qtpart as part of it
[12:18] <Nihil85> mdke, i don't use samba. i have to create a wireless lan between two ubuntu pc. Samba is for a linux/windows lan, isn't it?
[12:18] <bigmoe> yea that is why i want to partition linux 1st
[12:19] <bur[n] er> bigmoe: if you want a dual boot system, start with windows, then do ubuntu
[12:19] <nalioth> Stormx2: we really do not need any education in english expletives
[12:19] <Stormx2> bur[n] er: Woh. There is a #windows channel! Thats !&*$ unbeleivable!
[12:19] <hjack> The best bet is to install windows then re-install ubuntu when your doing a dual boot
[12:19] <mdke> Nihil85, you can run it between two ubuntu pc's too. I think that is what "shared folders" does, but I'm not familiar with it at all
[12:19] <Skyhelix> anyone using newsgroups? Knzb is so buggy it's pathetic... care to suggest another client (w nzb support) ?
[12:19] <nalioth> Skyhelix: that's the only one i found that works at all
[12:19] <Stormx2> nalioth: I really do not need your superiority complex right now.
[12:19] <bur[n] er> Nihil85: did you set up a samba user?  smbpasswd -a?
[12:19] <Skyhelix> damn :(
[12:20] <Nihil85> bur[n] er, i don't use Samba
[12:20] <Skyhelix> I used to use newsleecher (best there is) but taht's windows...
[12:20] <Skyhelix> knzb... After my first download.. It starts another que, but somehow there are no files in my download folder,,,
[12:20] <Nihil85> mdke, don't worry. i will ask for it to someone
[12:20] <dirkson> Stormx2: That's great, Storm. You and the chatroom at large obviously do not need one another, as per your statements. Bye! ;)
[12:20] <lazyant> bigmoe: you can isntall qparted and resize ubuntu partition (I haven't tried it though)
[12:20] <kemik_> dfadsfas
[12:21] <mdke> nalioth, strange ban syntax
[12:21] <nalioth> mdke: hows that?
[12:21] <delire_> Skyhelix: i'd look for such things with 'apt-cache search newsgroup' and then 'apt-cache show <packagename>'
[12:21] <mdke> nalioth, better...
[12:21] <mdke> nalioth, too slow tho
[12:21] <dirkson> Nalioth: (I think he might be back?)
[12:21] <lightseek> when I installed xmms it also installed everything needed to play mp3 :)  cool and easy
[12:21] <nalioth> mdke: what was strange about the first method?
[12:22] <nalioth> dirkson: thank you. it's fine
[12:22] <mdke> nalioth, it allowed him to change his username and come back
[12:22] <delire_> Skyhelix: if you don't find anything this way, i'd poke around the plethora of software at http://freshmeat.net
[12:22] <gnomefreak> he banned the ip address dont think he can come back
[12:22] <lightseek> nalioth, after I type apt-get update to I then need to type apt-get upgrade?
[12:22] <dirkson> nalioth: Fair enough : )
[12:22] <nalioth> lightseek: yes
[12:22] <Skyhelix> tx delire, but it seems im all out of luck :/
[12:22] <Skyhelix> tx anyways
[12:22] <lightseek> nalioth, thanks
[12:23] <jasongrieves> anyone really familiar with X and vfb?
[12:23] <lightseek> nalioth, are you a developer for Ubuntu?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> Nalioth: did you try dapper yet?
[12:23] <Nihil85> bur[n] er, can you suggest me a solution for this problem? i didn't setted any samba's user or setting, i've only opened the Shared Folders and then... it freezed without reason
[12:23] <[wonder] > how do i enable java on ubuntu amd64?i have firefox
[12:23] <gnomefreak> !tell [wonder]   about java
[12:23] <bur[n] er> Nihil85: got me, i use samba and it works well
[12:23] <nalioth> gnomefreak: i am not an early adopter
[12:23] <nalioth> lightseek: i am working toward that goal
[12:24] <lightseek> what email program is mostly used and recommended?
[12:24] <dirkson> *chews on his problem* I know I've got the right driver, so I can rule that out... But I can't, because the correct driver -should- make eth0 come up in the networking app. But the networking app stubbornly refuses to show eth0.
[12:24] <mdke> lightseek, evolution comes as default with ubuntu
[12:24] <kent> lightseek, evolution or thunderbird
[12:24] <[wonder] > !javadebs
[12:24] <ubotu> javadebs is, like, totally, Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/
[12:24] <lightseek> nalioth, excellent, I think you will make a great developer
[12:24] <Nihil85> bur[n] er, i've read somewhere that it doesn't need samba if you have to create only a linux/linux lan.
[12:24] <nalioth> [wonder] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaAMD64
[12:24] <gnomefreak> nalioth: that can be a good thing :)
[12:24] <nalioth> lightseek: join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:24] <lightseek> what do the advanced users here recommend?  evolution or thunderbird ?  do they both support spam and virus support?
[12:24] <mdke> Nihil85, i use ssh to connect between my computers, you could try that, it works well
[12:25] <bur[n] er> Nihil85: u can use NFS, but Samba works well enough for me
[12:25] <lightseek> nalioth, what did I say that was off topic?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> lightseek,  i use thunderbird
[12:25] <dirkson> Ah, perhaps it'll be listed under lspci... Could try it anyway...
[12:25] <lightseek> gnomefreak, ok thanks
[12:25] <mdke> lightseek, yes. Or another nice one is sylpheed
[12:25] <nalioth> lightseek: we can chat more freely about non ubuntu help subjects in -offtopic
[12:25] <lightseek> ill try thunderbird
[12:25] <bur[n] er> sylpheed == text-only though
[12:25] <lightseek> nalioth, ok
[12:25] <Skyhelix> klibido:
[12:25] <Skyhelix>  Depends: kdelibs4 (>=4:3.3.2-6.2) but it is not installable
[12:25] <Skyhelix>  Depends: libdb4.3++  but it is not installable
[12:25] <Skyhelix>  Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.4) but it is not installable
[12:25] <mdke> bur[n] er, nuhuh
[12:25] <gnomefreak> Skyhelix,  dont paste in here please
[12:25] <Skyhelix> any suggestions ??? im trying to get klibidio
[12:25] <NoUse> Skyhelix read /topic, no pasting
[12:25] <bur[n] er> mdke: yeah huh... no HTML with sylpheed
[12:25] <Nihil85> bur[n] er, mdke, now i will try both programs.
[12:25] <Skyhelix> sorry
[12:26] <mdke> bur[n] er, oh i see what you mean
[12:26] <mdke> bonus!
[12:26] <mdke> http://www.mdke.org/images/xfce_mail.png
[12:26] <lightseek> does Syanptic show every single application and preogram that is available to install?
[12:26] <bur[n] er> lightseek: in your current repository list yes
[12:26] <dirkson> Yes, it is. Comes up perfectly well in lspci. Soooo.... How to go from an lspci listing to an eth0 llisting.
[12:26] <bur[n] er> dirkson: by using the right kernel module?  lsmod ??
[12:26] <darksoul> NoUse: would a x86 install even work on a AMD64bit?
[12:26] <delire_> dirkson: modprobe the relevant driver
[12:27] <gnomefreak> lightseek,  depends on the repos in your sources list
[12:27] <hjack> lightseek, Only if the current repository list.  There are several that are not shown by default though.
[12:27] <NoUse> darksoul yes
[12:27] <hjack> s/if/in
[12:27] <mdke> darksoul, absolutely
[12:27] <jvai> HEEELP!  i lost all sound in hoary! since the weeknd
[12:27] <dirkson> Bur[n] er and delire: Both very interesting ideas : ) I'll try them real quick
[12:27] <shadeofgrey> guys
[12:27] <delire_> dirkson: ensure you have an 'eth0' entry in /etc/network/interfaces.
[12:27] <delire_> dirkson: what is the card?
[12:28] <dirkson> delire_: I do : )
[12:28] <shadeofgrey> i need help finding the official breezy sources.list file that includes the backports
[12:28] <bur[n] er> dirkson: sudo dhclient eth0 ??
[12:28] <lightseek> what happens if I use pon with sudo? would that mean im loged in as root?
[12:28] <shadeofgrey> somebidy take a minute and help me?
[12:28] <delire_> dirkson: what is the card? 'lspci | grep Network'
[12:28] <gnomefreak> shadeofgrey, i gave you my website with the complete list on it
[12:28] <mdke> Nihil85, ssh is secure, too. It is different to nfs in that you don't mount any drives, you just connect to the other computer and copy files back and forward
[12:28] <darksoul> NoUse: omfg im getting no sound off my avi files
[12:28] <dirkson> delire_:  Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139
[12:28] <lightseek> gnomefreak, I have 6 repos lines from http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325!  Are there any other?
[12:28] <shadeofgrey> gnomefreak:  i must have missed it....  ive been searching google
[12:28] <NoUse> darksoul what player are you using?
[12:29] <delire_> dirkson: ok, so modprobe rtl8139 (from memory)
[12:29] <dirkson> bur[n] er: Massive errors pop up!! (I am happy about this. Errors at least can tell me what's going on :D )
[12:29] <darksoul> NoUse: VLC
[12:29] <gnomefreak> www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc/linux.htm
[12:29] <shadeofgrey> gnomefreak:  id appreciate it if you gave it to me one more timne please
[12:29] <Nihil85> mdke, ssh will let me share the internet connection of the other pc?
[12:29] <delire_> darksoul: hehe that's the spirit ;)
[12:29] <superbeast> 32 bit ubuntu will work on a A64 right?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> see above
[12:29] <NoUse> darksoul try mplayer or totem and make sure its configured to use esd for sound
[12:29] <Skyhelix> what should I do if I get this error? klibido: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.3.2-6.2) but it is not installable
[12:29] <darksoul> NoUse: *sigh* but vlc was working with sound yesterday
[12:29] <jvai> would reinstalling hoary.. bring my sound back?
[12:29] <NoUse> darksoul mplayer is a better player
[12:30] <Skyhelix> ah wait nvm
[12:30] <dirkson> delire_: Module not found. Not listed under lsmod either. I'm -sure- I compiled it as a module, but maybe I should go check. It -needs- to be a module, correct, not just in the kernel?
[12:30] <delire_> Skyhelix: 'apt-get update' and 'apt-get install kdelibs4'
[12:30] <shadeofgrey> thanks very much gnomefreak!
[12:30] <Skyhelix> I think I got it
[12:30] <mdke> Nihil85, no, nor will nfs
[12:30] <Skyhelix> delire, nope doesn't work
[12:30] <jvai> sound stop workin in live cd also.. feathr linux
[12:30] <delire_> dirkson: try 'sudo ifup eth0'
[12:30] <mdke> Nihil85, they permit you to transfer files between computers
[12:30] <b3nw> is there a lighter install than full but not so light as typing server ?
[12:30] <Skyhelix> Ubuntu Linux: The Debian package doesn't work on Ubuntu. However, after adding the deb-src to sources.list, it can easily be rebuilded on Ubuntu:
[12:30] <gnomefreak> shadeofgrey, your welcome thats why the site is there it will have more to it when i get some extra time
[12:30] <superbeast> how do you burn an iso image in ubuntu?
[12:31] <lightseek> superbeast, try k3b
[12:31] <delire_> superbeast: with k3b or growisofs
[12:31] <dirkson> delire_: Lots of errors. Mostly variations on "No such device"
[12:31] <NoUse> superbeast right-click on the iso and click "write to disc"
[12:31] <bimberi> superbeast: right-click in nautilus and select Write To CD/DVD
[12:31] <jvai> beast.. dl gnomebaker.. that works for me
[12:31] <lightseek> superbeast, sudo apt-get install k3b
[12:31] <gnomefreak> superbeast, k3b or gnomebaker
[12:31] <bur[n] er> superbeast: right click the .iso from nautilus and 'write to disk'
[12:31] <superbeast> ok
[12:31] <superbeast> lmao
[12:31] <delire_> dirkson: 'modprobe -l | grep rtl'
[12:31] <superbeast> i'm going to try 32 bit ubuntu so i can run games
[12:31] <delire_> dirkson: maybe there's an '8139too' in there
[12:31] <Nihil85> mdke, so what's the name of a good protocol that will let me share both connection and folders?
[12:31] <lightseek> superbeast, what games?
[12:31] <alcy> ol pessoal
[12:31] <superbeast> americas army
[12:31] <dirkson> delire_: That's the driver I'm supposed to be using, I think.
[12:32] <shadeofgrey> gnomefreak:  so all i have to do to update to the full version of oo.org now that the backports are available is apt-get remove --purge openoffiuce.org and then apt-get install openoffice.org2 --- correct?
[12:32] <foomanchew> anyone running SMP here ?
[12:32] <superbeast> lightseek, americas army
[12:32] <dirkson> delire_: I've seen it on sits in reference to my card
[12:32] <delire_> dirkson: 'sudo modprobe 8139too && ifup eth0'
[12:32] <jvai> i dont want to reinstall. just for sound.. would reinstall alsa help??
[12:32] <alcy> tem alguem do BRAZIL
[12:32] <nalioth> foomanchew: yes
[12:32] <delire_> dirkson: sorry '...sudo ifup eth0'
[12:32] <nalioth> !br
[12:32] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[12:32] <gnomefreak> shadeofgrey, that should work but what do you mean full version?
[12:32] <mdke> Nihil85, dunno, sorry
[12:33] <dirkson> Module not found. I did not see it in the kernel when I compiled it, either, just the standard 8139/8139/8139C module
[12:33] <delire_> Nihil85: on KDE systems many people like to use fish:// or scp:// to share between machines. i like NFS ond the new SSHFS (but the latter is a bit fiddly).
[12:33] <foomanchew> nalioth, I am running on a Dell Precision 220 workstation and performance just blows
[12:33] <dirkson> delire_: Module not found. I did not see it in the kernel when I compiled it, either, just the standard 8139/8139/8139C module. (Sorry for double post. Forgot courtesy delire_: )
[12:33] <bur[n] er> Nihil85: on nautilus... sftp:// or ssh://
[12:34] <nalioth> foomanchew: what are the specs on that box?
[12:34] <foomanchew> its a dual 733mhz with 376 mb RAM
[12:34] <delire_> Nihil85: SAMBA is commonly used between linux and win32 machnes however, though i dislike it.
[12:34] <foomanchew> 2 drives 80 GB & 20 GB
[12:34] <foomanchew> box is dragging
[12:34] <mdke> delire_, to share an internet connection?
[12:34] <delire_> dirkson: right, 'modprobe -l | grep 8139'
[12:34] <foomanchew> running  2.6.12-9-686-smp #1 SMP
[12:34] <delire_> mdke: no.. i thought he was talking about sharing files and folders between machines.
[12:35] <shadeofgrey> damnit to hell....  i want the FULL stable 2.0 version of openoffice...  i thought for sure it'd be available when the backports came out
[12:35] <mdke> delire_, no, seems he wants to share a connection too
[12:35] <nalioth> foomanchew: you are using a kernel too high for your box
[12:35] <dirkson> delire_: Done, no feedback
[12:35] <delire_> mdke: ahah, ok
[12:35] <foomanchew> hmmm
[12:35] <Nihil85> delire_, so with fish or scp i will share also the connection?
[12:35] <foomanchew> nalioth, doh!
[12:35] <delire_> dirkson: well that's a shame. it's an incredibly common card, so i assumed it would be in the stock kernel.
[12:35] <gnomefreak> shadeofgrey,  ubuntu breezy has full version of oo-2
[12:35] <delire_> Nihil85: no, sorry, i got you wrong.
[12:36] <foomanchew> nalioth, what should I use ?
[12:36] <dirkson> delire_: Well, I -have- recompiled my kernel. Had to, to get a peice of more esoteric hardware working
[12:36] <Nihil85> delire_, bur[n] er, i need a protocol that will let me share the connection
[12:36] <gnomefreak> shadeofgrey,  if you think your missing something open synaptic and search open office
[12:36] <shadeofgrey> no, gnomefreak im sorry - thats just not true
[12:36] <dfeed> Hi all, I was partitioning my hard drive to add an extra partition when something went hideously wrong. GRUB loaded with an error. So, to get my windows partition working again I had to reinstall the mbr. All my linux partitions seem to be there, but how do I go about actually having a working linux system again?
[12:36] <nalioth> foomanchew: hang on i'm looking
[12:36] <foomanchew> ok
[12:36] <Skyhelix> what was the command again for searching trough packages and package info?
[12:36] <jvai> i missed the sounds in my ubuntu install :(
[12:36] <gnomefreak> shadeofgrey, what part of oo-2 are you missing?
[12:36] <delire_> Nihil85: no sorry... i do this manually from the command line. AFAIK there are GUI's out there for doing this sort of thing.
[12:36] <shadeofgrey> breezy ships with 1.9.129
[12:37] <foomanchew> nalioth, cache search reveals no 386 SMP kernel ?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> hoary has 1.9
[12:37] <bimberi> Skyhelix: apt-cache search
[12:37] <gnomefreak> breezy ships with 2
[12:37] <shadeofgrey> theres a big difference between that version and the full 20 version
[12:37] <lightseek> can I make screens and text smaller without raising resolution?
[12:37] <Skyhelix> apt-cache search, got it, and the next one for like "show package info"?
[12:37] <delire_> dirkson: hmm.. well i would definitely consider starting up menuconfig and, checking 'M' for RealTek cards and 'make modules && make modules_install && modprobe 8139too'
[12:37] <Nihil85> delire_, AFAIK? what's afaik?
[12:37] <delire_> Nihil85: sorry, As Far As I Know
[12:37] <mdke> Skyhelix, apt-cache show gives you info
[12:38] <jnymo> hi guys
[12:38] <gnomefreak> shadeofgrey, if you installed breezy than ran updates you have oo-2
[12:38] <Skyhelix> k, tx again ugys
[12:38] <dirkson> delire_: Ok, will do. : ) With any luck, that should fix things, no? : )
[12:39] <steigweis> NVIDIA trouble continues.. now i have installed the latest nvidia drivers but when i change "nv" into "nvidia" in the xorg.conf file x wont start... what did i miss?
[12:39] <jnymo> I'd like to do a shameless plug of an OSS project that I'm really into right now.. and I think you guys might be interested, if you haven't already heard about it...
[12:39] <foomanchew> nalioth, its the right kernel, supports PII thru PIV
[12:39] <oofnik> ah! can someone help me make gdesklets stop loading when i log in?
[12:39] <NoUse> steigweis have you tried he wiki instructions?
[12:39] <aris[glande] > steigweis, there is a note into synaptics about how to enable nvidia-glx
[12:40] <jnymo> anyone ever heard of i2p? the Invisible Internet Project?
[12:40] <delire_> dirkson: yeah, that should be fine. check first however that support isn't compiled *into* the kernel for your card and if it is, try an 'sudo dhclient -d eth0'
[12:40] <steigweis> aris[glande] : i dont have the package but the drivers from nvidiasitze
[12:40] <delire_> jnymo: no
[12:40] <aris[glande] > ah, you should then look at the sample file they give
[12:40] <foomanchew> nalioth, ?
[12:40] <aris[glande] > and spot differences
[12:41] <aris[glande] > you have more modules to load I think
[12:41] <NoUse> !tell steigweis about nvidia
[12:41] <nalioth> foomanchew: i'm still looking
[12:41] <Stormx2> Stormx is back and no longer fuming.
[12:41] <dirkson> delire_: Ok..... Curious thing. Checking the config of the kernel I booted from, the realtek drivers -are- using M.... shouldn'y I be able to see them using lsmod ??
[12:41] <delire_> jnymo: looking at the page now, i think i prefer the approach of http://tor.eff.org
[12:41] <oofnik> guys i can't get gdesklets to stop autoloading when i log in, i remove the entry but it brings itself back, what the hell is going on?
[12:41] <jnymo> delire_: there are a few different projects that try to provide anonymity for users on the internet, but I think i2p is going to come out on top.. it's got a solid concept and its growing steadily
[12:41] <nalioth> why is there not a i386-smp kernel?
[12:41] <foomanchew> not sure
[12:42] <foomanchew> its kinda weird
[12:42] <polverari> hi
[12:42] <oofnik> i don't think they have SMP pentium's..
[12:42] <delire_> dirkson: it sounds like you didn't compile them. cd into the source tree and 'make modules && make modules_install'
[12:42] <alcy> ol pessoal
[12:42] <jnymo> tor is great as an outproxy, but an outproxy network has inherent security issuews
[12:42] <nalioth> oofnik: of course they did
[12:42] <jnymo> issues
[12:42] <lightseek> is there any way to install gnome-ppp without being on the internet? :P
[12:42] <polverari> ol alci
[12:42] <misfit_toy> backup question, to completely restore this ubuntu laptop from a fresh install to the moment it's at right now..would the following dir's be enough? /etc /var /home /usr/local ?
[12:42] <oofnik> oh well nevermind then hah
[12:42] <nalioth> lightseek: it should be on the cd
[12:42] <delire_> jnymo: not when coupled with a firewall. i'm fairly ok with privoxy
[12:42] <alcy> sou novo em Linux
[12:43] <Stormx2> !es
[12:43] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:43] <polverari> could somebody help me? im facing name resolution problems
[12:43] <lightseek> nalioth, ah cool!  so how would I install it from there?
[12:43] <Discipulus> Anyone have any experience with a software consulting firm.
[12:43] <nalioth> lightseek: if it's on the cd
[12:43] <nalioth> alcy: portugues esta en #ubuntu-br
[12:43] <lightseek> nalioth, if its on the cd, how would I install it from the CD?
[12:43] <delire_> jnymo: regardless, i'll read more and check it out. do you know if i2p has the equivalent of 'torify <program>' ?
[12:44] <nalioth> lightseek: just use synaptic
[12:44] <Stormx2> nalioth: I wasn't far off ;-)
[12:44] <jnymo> delire_: tor chooses low latency over hightened anonymity.. it just depends on one's threat model
[12:44] <lightseek> nalioth, using Synaptic?
[12:44] <nrs> howdy all
[12:44] <jnymo> delire_: also, tor doesn't like it when people swamp their circuits with torrents and filesharing.. i2p encourages it
[12:44] <nalioth> delire_: tor cloaks are banned from #ubuntu fyi
[12:45] <delire_> jnymo: mine isn't too high. as long as i'm not giving too much away when i don't want to be and my iptable rules are solid, i'm ok.
[12:45] <delire_> nalioth: yes, i noticed
[12:45] <foomanchew> nalioth, I researched the forums and linux-686-smp is the way to go
[12:45] <jnymo> delire_: you can "i2pify" many programs, with minimal work.. like irc clients work out of the box
[12:45] <nalioth> foomanchew: perhaps you might purchase some more ram?
[12:46] <foomanchew> alas performance sux
[12:46] <foomanchew> yeah
[12:46] <delire_> jnymo: i only require anonymity for certain http:// services really.
[12:46] <lightseek> alcy, hehe ;)
[12:46] <foomanchew> darn it
[12:46] <Stormx2> Right, lets try getting Grip working
[12:46] <foomanchew> delire_, try TOR
[12:46] <delire_> foomanchew: yes, as i said. this is what i use
[12:46] <foomanchew> sorry
[12:46] <jnymo> delire_: yea, tor is a bit faster than tor for outproxy services.. i2p just has better fundementals, imo
[12:46] <delire_> foomanchew: np ;)
[12:47] <dirkson> delire_: Ok, after some fiddling, I think I -may- have actually made the 8139too driver come out and play..... I'm going to restart to check
[12:47] <delire_> jnymo: right, i'll read on.
[12:47] <nalioth> foomanchew: ram should be cheap to max out the box
[12:47] <TomC> This is less specific to Ubuntu, and geared toward those of us that have been around for a while: Does anybody have a reccomendation for a good log analyzer?
[12:47] <jnymo> ah, i mean, tor is a bit faster than i2p
[12:47] <foomanchew> its really specific ram
[12:47] <delire_> jnymo: yes, i understood
[12:47] <Skyhelix> anyone managed to install klibidio?
[12:47] <fletch33> evening all
[12:47] <delire_> jnymo: tor has a neat little firefox extension which makes it appealing also. one can enable the proxy when desired.
[12:48] <jnymo> delire_: feel free to swing on by #i2p as well.. theres a changegate there to the i2rcp network (i2p's irc)
[12:48] <oofnik> guys i can't get gdesklets to stop autoloading when i log in, i remove the entry but it brings itself back, what the hell is going on?
[12:48] <delire_> jnymo: hehe ok, cool. i may do this.
[12:48] <jnymo> I usually use switchproxy for i2p
[12:48] <nerdzyboy_> The external monitor output of my laptop doesn<t output correctly...
[12:48] <jnymo> it's a firefox extension too
[12:49] <delire_> jnymo: it is too.. excellent. this makes a difference.
[12:49] <lightseek> whats the best dvd and vob and mpeg player?
[12:49] <delire_> anyway, time to run off. tis late.
[12:49] <delire_> night all.
[12:49] <nerdzyboy_> how can I make the external monitor work correctly?
[12:50] <jnymo> aye.. its a life saver, delire_
[12:50] <jnymo> later
[12:50] <TomC> lightseek: VLC is really nice, but XINE-based players work very well too
[12:50] <nerdzyboy_> the resolution is just wrong
[12:50] <alcy> Tem aguel do brazil
[12:50] <Stormx2> Actually, I'm going to grapple with DMA more tomorrow.
[12:50] <lightseek> TomC,  so I apt-get install VLC && XINE ?
[12:50] <Stormx2> I have a feeling i've managed to enable it for my other cd rom drive...
[12:50] <nerdzyboy_> anyone?
[12:51] <Stormx2> apt-get install vlc xine
[12:51] <lightseek> Stormx2, I enabled DMA for my CD
[12:51] <TomC> lightseek: I don't remember the specific packages, but if you use Synaptic you can search and find all their plugins too
[12:51] <Stormx2> lightseek: I just did, but it didn't have any effect...
[12:51] <lightseek> Stormx2, is vlc and xine 2 seperate programs?
[12:51] <aet> how come i cannot find mplayer for ubuntu?
[12:51] <bnD> i often accidentally click on things which i dont mean to while moving my cursor around on my laptop, anyone know if there is a way to disable clicking by touchpad?
[12:51] <lightseek> Stormx2, did you use the -d1 switch?
[12:51] <bnD> or to at least turn down the sensitivity?
[12:51] <lightseek> TomC,  ok ty
[12:52] <alcy> alguem fala Portugues?
[12:52] <Stormx2> lightseek: The speed slowly went from 3x to 0.5x then sound juicer crashed, like it does every time >.>
[12:52] <lightseek> Stormx2, hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[12:52] <bimberi> aet: it's in the multiverse repository and has names like mplayer-386, -586 ...
[12:52] <TomC> Does anybody have a reccomendation for a good log analyzer?
[12:52] <lightseek> Stormx2, did you type that?
[12:52] <Stormx2> lightseek: yep.
[12:52] <lightseek> Stormx2, ok
[12:53] <polverari> eu falo, alcy
[12:53] <lightseek> im doing an upgrade from a fresh breeze install!  only 18mb worth of upgrades :)
[12:53] <dfeed> Looking deeper into my lost linux partitions, it seems that my main linux partition has some kind of error. Looking at it in PartitionMagic from WinXP, it seems that "Info: MBR Partition Table not in sequential order." Anyone know what I can do to fix this?
[12:53] <foomanchew> bollox
[12:53] <bnD> can someone let me know the command to update kernel from 386 to 686?
[12:54] <WinZ> Hey friends! What software can I use for connecting to SSH2 server?
[12:54] <lightseek> foomanchew, you a pommie?
[12:54] <mdke> WinZ, i use nautilus, it works great
[12:54] <foomanchew> nein
[12:54] <foomanchew> lightseek, :P
[12:54] <aris[glande] > winjer, what kind of usage ?
[12:54] <lightseek> foomanchew, bollox is a pommie term :P
[12:54] <aris[glande] > oops
[12:54] <lightseek> foomanchew,  :)
[12:54] <foomanchew> lightseek, yip :P
[12:54] <aris[glande] > WinZ, to do what ? file transfer ?
[12:54] <Hobbsee> dfeed: you could try reinstalling grub...
[12:55] <TomC> dfeed: reinstall and dump windows. It's hard to do the first times you quit cold turkey, but after not using windows for over two years...it's certainly possible
[12:55] <oofnik> eh.. anyone have ideas why gdesklets comes back after i remove it from startup and save my session?
[12:55] <Hobbsee> !tell dfeed about reinstallgrub
[12:55] <Hobbsee> hehe, that too
[12:55] <foomanchew> is it me or does Breezy seem flaky ?
[12:55] <bimberi> bnD: sudo aptitude install linux-686
[12:55] <WinZ> aris[glande] , to use remote shell
[12:55] <TomC> Hobbsee: He said the partition has an error...not the bootloader
[12:55] <foomanchew> I have had a ton more issues than with Hoary
[12:55] <bnD> bimberi, thank you
[12:55] <Random_Transit> question, I tried the ubu 5.04 live cd in my bro's dell lappy, and the display won't work
[12:55] <lightseek> bimberi: hello
[12:55] <aris[glande] > WinZ, then, open a console and type "ssh login@hostname"
[12:55] <bimberi> bnD: np :)
[12:55] <aris[glande] > you can skip login if it's the same login as yours
[12:55] <Random_Transit> why is this, and how do I fix it?
[12:56] <bimberi> hi lightseek
[12:56] <lightseek> Random_Transit: try 5.10
[12:56] <Random_Transit> yeah?
[12:56] <lightseek> bimberi: :)
[12:56] <darksoul> NoUse: im trying it your way, lets see what happens eh?
[12:56] <WinZ> aris[glande] , are the standart openssh-client and openssh-server support ssh2?
[12:56] <dfeed> Thanks.
[12:56] <Random_Transit> hoary has some sort of glitch with dell laptop screens, then?
[12:56] <aris[glande] > WinZ, of course :)
[12:56] <WinZ> aris[glande] , thank you :)
[12:56] <lightseek> bimberi:  i conntected to internet but then installed gnome-ppp for next time!  imho they should have installed gnome-ppp by default for new users who have modem
[12:56] <aris[glande] > WinZ, ssh-1 is deprecated but still supported as compatibility
[12:57] <WinZ> aah..
[12:57] <NoUse> darksoul what was my way?
[12:57] <TomC> Hoary had issues with certain intel chipsets for graphics (Dell has these in some models like mine). There are fixesm though!
[12:57] <lightseek> Random_Transit: try 5.10 and Im sure it will work
[12:57] <darksoul> NoUse: put in a diff hdd and try
[12:57] <bimberi> lightseek: yeah, although you _should_ be able to get dialup working via the Networking applet, but not always it seems :/
[12:57] <lightseek> why are some hard drives silent when being accessed and some are loud?
[12:57] <aris[glande] > I only had issue with my wireless card (installing ndiswrapper worked fine) and ACPI
[12:58] <lightseek> bimberi: yeah not always it seems
[12:58] <darksoul> NoUse: its configuring/installing packages atm...i want to see what happens..i kinda hope this works couse i dont want to spent 500$ on a new chip
[12:58] <lightseek> bimberi:  and new users wouldnt work that out
[12:58] <aris[glande] > I fixed the dsdt but still have no battery info... it's strange
[12:58] <aris[glande] > else, everything works
[12:58] <bimberi> lightseek: indeed
[12:58] <lightseek> bimberi:  but if they had a ppp icon in internet menu, new users can use that
[12:58] <Random_Transit> one more question, why won't alienated RPM packages install properly?
[12:58] <foomanchew> anyone now if its possible to benchmark your system and verify against others ?
[12:58] <lightseek> bimberi: in Australia there are million modem users
[12:58] <bnD> anyone know how to turn down touchpad sensitivity or disable touchpad clicking?
[12:58] <foomanchew> linux benchmark
[12:58] <aris[glande] > foomanchew, what do you want to benchmark ?
[12:59] <darksoul> NoUse: do you think it will work?
[12:59] <bimberi> lightseek: i know - i'm one too :P
[12:59] <NoUse> darksoul I didn't say it was a CPU problem, I said memory or disk
[12:59] <fletch33> i have a delima if you could help i would appreciate it. i have a nvidia card in my desktop and ubu doesnt work when it is installed. so i took it out and connect my moniter to the standard video card it came with. no here is the problem. automatix will install the proper drivers but i cant install the nvidia card and see what i am doing to get automatix to insatll the drivers. any suggestions on how i can resolve this would be great
[12:59] <Random_Transit> example, I got an RPM for LimeWire, alienated it, and synaptic had a fit...so did apt
[12:59] <foomanchew> aris[glande] , my whole system under linux
[12:59] <aris[glande] > foomanchew, there are *tons* of different things that can alter the performance of a computer
[12:59] <TomC> Random_Transit: LOTS of reasons...unmet depends, wrong libraries, etc.
[12:59] <lightseek> bimberi:  I cant recommend ubuntu to any of them because I fear they wouldnt work out how to dial out
[12:59] <darksoul> NoUse: i know you didint say CPU, but i posted this on the forums awhile ago and its what they said
[12:59] <foomanchew> aris[glande] , general spu mem disk etc
[12:59] <NoUse> darksoul ah
[12:59] <lightseek> I should put in a recommended Ubuntu feature
[12:59] <bimberi> lightseek: actually what would be better is to make sure the Networking applet works properly - by filing good bug reports
[12:59] <foomanchew> aris[glande] , I understand, generalising here
[01:00] <lightseek> bimberi:  im baffled why nobody would habve thought about that
[01:00] <darksoul> NoUse: but i dont think thats it..i think its prob hdd... but do you think this will work?
[01:00] <foomanchew> bimberi, the applet does work ?
[01:00] <mindtzar> anyone know how GNUtelle network works for things like P2P
[01:00] <mindtzar> because I heard it's not centralised
[01:00] <darksoul> NoUse: do you know anything in linux that can burn iso's (ubuntu iso)
[01:01] <aris[glande] > fletch33, yep, i see your problem
[01:01] <nalioth> darksoul: gnomebaker, graveman, k3b
[01:01] <lightseek> bimberi:  i was very  suprised when I saw no way to dial out from internet menu!  Simply Mepis has it for example and thats why many modem users new to linux are being recommended that!  Yet if ubuntu had it also, many would recommend that instead I feel
[01:01] <amr> i am a total douche
[01:01] <TomC> darksoul: cdrecord dev=/dev/hdd -data isoname.iso
[01:01] <aris[glande] > but that's strange, you have no output at all ?
[01:01] <lightseek> bimberi:  would you agree?
[01:01] <Stormx2> is there a how-to on Grip in ubuntu?
[01:01] <amr> i followed a guide to install wpa with the intel2200bg nic
[01:01] <amr> removed my old drivers
[01:01] <amr> compiled new ones
[01:01] <fletch33> aris[glande] , any suggestions
[01:01] <bimberi> foomanchew: it worked for me in hoary, but i've not tried it myself in breezy - but have heard of a few problems
[01:01] <aris[glande] > fletch33, when you're booting with nvidia card, do you see the splash screen ?
[01:01] <amr> but there was an error and the new ones are dead
[01:01] <amr> and i am without wireless
[01:02] <amr> how can i get my drivers back?
[01:02] <foomanchew> bimberi, hmm strange
[01:02] <fletch33> aris[glande] ,  yes and then that is it
[01:02] <lightseek> amr: no you are not!  seperate actions from you! :)  we all make douche actions, but doesnt mean we ARE a douche :)
[01:02] <amr> lol
[01:02] <darksoul> NoUse: i love the apt-get commands...one of the most things i hated about linux was the rpms..
[01:02] <aris[glande] > fletch33, have you tried connecting the screen to the primary video card while nvidia card is into the computer ?
[01:02] <darksoul> NoUse: white screen again...
[01:02] <TomC> "douche actions"...awesome
[01:02] <lightseek> amr:  ;)
[01:02] <aris[glande] > fletch33, the splash screen, then nothing ?
[01:02] <amr> if you can help then :p
[01:02] <darksoul> NoUse: kernal panic *sigh*
[01:02] <foomanchew> ok have another issue... GLX missing on display ? any ideas ?
[01:02] <evan___> Anyone know how to get wuftp to bind to an ip other than 127.0.0.1
[01:03] <fletch33> aris[glande] , no but i thought that installing the nv card would cancel out the other
[01:03] <lightseek> amr: my first day :) im new
[01:03] <bimberi> lightseek: no, i think a working Networking applet (+ prominent instruction) would be sufficient
[01:03] <fletch33> aris[glande] , yep
[01:03] <darksoul> NoUse: guess you were wrong about the hdd..it prob is the damn cpu DAMNIT
[01:03] <aris[glande] > fletch33, it doesn't work the windows way :)
[01:03] <NoUse> darksoul it could be the CPU overheating
[01:03] <lightseek> bimberi:  ok that may suffice
[01:03] <aris[glande] > fletch33, p/v
[01:03] <amr> anyone? 2200 drivers?
[01:04] <foomanchew> GLX issues anyone ?
[01:04] <darksoul> NoUse: ..i have a good heatsink and my server-only mode works fine
[01:04] <darksoul> NoUse: if the damn amd64bit install wont work its the cpu
[01:04] <lightseek> my first day using Ubuntu and I must say its great!  I only have 1 complaint about ppp dial out, other than that, great :)
[01:04] <foomanchew> have a nvidia vanta card
[01:04] <aet> bimberi: so how did mplayer wind up there anyway?
[01:04] <NoUse> darksoul ok
[01:04] <foomanchew> using nv driver
[01:04] <foomanchew> glxglears fails
[01:04] <darksoul> NoUse: *sigh* im going to kill somone
[01:04] <bimberi> aet: multiverse? because it's non-free and not supported by canonical
[01:05] <foomanchew> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[01:05] <lightseek> darksoul: start with you
[01:05] <foomanchew> man this is not going so well
[01:05] <aris[glande] > fletch33, look at your private messages
[01:05] <darksoul> lightseek: do you use amd64?
[01:05] <aet> bimberi: just wondering how its not "free" :)
[01:05] -[Tallia] :#ubuntu- Free SEX!!!!!! ~M-Y-S-T-E-R-Y-S-C-R-I-P-T~ http://forum.mysterynet.org/ 
[01:05] <lightseek> darksoul: no sorry, I use x386
[01:05] <willtux> hi there
[01:06] <nrs> i have ubuntu-server synaptic was not installed by default (nothing really is) now I want to install it only I can't find it via apt
[01:06] <steve_d> Anyone know if connecting to a samba share using the options under "Places" in gnome actually mounts the share locally somewhere that can be seen on the filesystem?
[01:06] <darksoul> NoUse: how much do you think a new 3.0 amd64bit chip will cost?
[01:06] <HrdwrBoB> !ops
[01:06] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and nalioth
[01:06] <bimberi> aet: the licence (i guess)
[01:06] <NoUse> darksoul you expect me to open my big book of prices? I haven't bought a new CPU in 2 years
[01:07] <foomanchew> darksoul, try newegg
[01:07] <darksoul> NoUse: what i dont get is why the hell suse worked once...and only once..
[01:07] <NoUse> darksoul did you do a memtest?
[01:07] <darksoul> NoUse: no, that only checks ram right?
[01:07] <NoUse> darksoul right
[01:07] <NoUse> darksoul but a memtest is free
[01:07] <darksoul> NoUse: then i have no need, i have 2 ram sticks
[01:07] <lightseek> can anything break by doing an apt-get upgrade?
[01:07] <bnD> anyone know how i can add the 'run' command back to the application menu? id rather it be there than alt+f2ing ;)
[01:08] <NoUse> darksoul how do you know your RAM isn't bad?
[01:08] <darksoul> NoUse: becouse i was running 2 servers on server only mode that took up about 700 ram
[01:08] <nalioth> bnD: that is a very good question.
[01:08] <lightseek> NoUse: can anything break by doing an apt-get upgrade?
[01:08] <NoUse> darksoul thats really not a valid reason
[01:08] <bnD> nalioth, you dont know either eh? :)
[01:09] <darksoul> NoUse: well, im not sure, but from what i heard i have a bad chip
[01:09] <NoUse> darksoul if it were me, I'd make sure it was nothing else before dropping more cash on a CPU
[01:09] <NoUse> darksoul but it's your money
[01:09] <Stormx2> OK, now Grip won't rip without crashing
[01:09] <lightseek> is mplayer good to play vob and mpeg video files?
[01:09] <Stormx2> *sigh*
[01:09] <nalioth> lightseek: not unless you are using non ubuntu repos
[01:09] <darksoul> NoUse: well im going to go whine on the forums
[01:09] <nalioth> lightseek: it is
[01:09] <amr> i cant 'make' the drivers because i dont have gcc3.4
[01:09] <nalioth> amr: install gcc-3.4
[01:10] <lightseek> nalioth: ok but is there any non ubuntu repos in my new sources.list that I downloaded using your wget command?
[01:10] <amr> if it isnt on the cd
[01:10] <nalioth> lightseek: there are not
[01:11] <NoUse> lightseek you are really paranoid about repos aren't you? :)
[01:11] <lightseek> nalioth: videos play choppy, i think its cause X is using vesa and didnt pick up my hercules kyro 4000XT video card!  Any fix for this?
[01:11] <lightseek> NoUse:  yes indeed, I do a lot of netbanking and money transfers etc
[01:11] <lightseek> NoUse: want to make sure my system is secure :)
[01:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lightseek about dma
[01:12] <lightseek> NoUse: but nalioth just told me anyway that there are no  non ubuntu repos in my new sources.list that I downloaded using that wget command
[01:12] <NoUse> lightseek yup
[01:12] <lightseek> nalioth: I turned on dma already but playing video files from  hard drive are also slow and choppy
[01:13] <nalioth> lightseek: dont know what else to do
[01:13] <amr> its not on the cd, nalioth
[01:13] <amr> what do you suggest now sir
[01:13] <lightseek> nalioth: and my hard drive has dma=1 On
[01:13] <nalioth> amr: are you not online now? grab it off the net using synaptic or apt-get
[01:13] <kemik> oehera
[01:13] <amr> uh
[01:13] <kemik> i am the stupid
[01:13] <amr> this is on a windows box
[01:13] <kemik> blocked 192.168.* in iptables
[01:13] <amr> if i was online on it now i wouldnt need it
[01:13] <nalioth> amr: visit packages.ubuntu.com and grab it
[01:13] <amr> :p
[01:13] <kemik> dont ask me how i did it ;)
[01:13] <amr> ok
[01:14] <jeanluc> whats a good FTP client like cuteftp in windows, but one for ubuntu?
[01:14] <Xer0_h4x> i installed wine and then intalled winesetuptk to configure it but when i installed winesetuptk it removed wine....wtf and its vise versa how do i fix this AND configure wine? is there a program built into wine i can use to confireu it
[01:14] <aris[glande] > kemik, paranoia maybe :)
[01:14] <lightseek> nalioth: is there a way to tell Ubuntu to use my proper graphics card?  its a hercules kyro 4000XT video card
[01:14] <aris[glande] > jeanluc, i'd use kftpgrabber
[01:14] <jeanluc> ok
[01:14] <Xer0_h4x> jeanluc, open a term and type sudo apt-get install gftp
[01:14] <bimberi> jeanluc: nautilus - (Places -> Connect to Server)
[01:14] <aris[glande] > jeanluc, it's the best ftp client i know of.
[01:14] <nalioth> lightseek: you are at a console now?
[01:15] <lightseek> jeanluc: gFTP
[01:15] <Xer0_h4x> i installed wine and then intalled winesetuptk to configure it but when i installed winesetuptk it removed wine....wtf and its vise versa how do i fix this AND configure wine? is there a program built into wine i can use to confireu it
[01:15] <Xer0_h4x> oops
[01:15] <Xer0_h4x> sorry for re post
[01:15] <lightseek> nalioth: yes indeed
[01:15] <SEJeff> Xer0_h4x: The one that comes with wine. winecfg
[01:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lightseek about xcfg
[01:15] <aris[glande] > oh, kftpgrabber isn't into ubuntu :(
[01:15] <nalioth> lightseek: when you run that, choose the VESA driver
[01:15] <darksoul> NoUse: do you think it might be the 3d card after all?
[01:16] <nalioth> aris[glande] : join #kubuntu and ask about it
[01:16] <lightseek> Xer0_h4x: i have read wine is poorly written. true?
[01:16] <lightseek> nalioth: why were you asking?
[01:16] <bnD> nalioth, do you know a way to control touchpad sensitivy? im often accidentally clicking things, in fact i wouldnt mind disabling the clicking function of my touchpad at all
[01:16] <SEJeff> lightseek: look at the code and see for yourself. It is pretty impressive if you ask me
[01:16] <NoUse> darksoul I doubt it, I had thought it installed ok but X didn't start, a kernel panic sounds more serious
[01:16] <lightseek> nalioth: when I run mplayer you mean?
[01:16] <cafuego> sorry, whatnow?
[01:16] <dmlinux> what does all this mean http://pastebin.com/431100 ? anyone know
[01:16] <nalioth> bnD: in your mouse prefs, i'd assume
[01:16] <darksoul> NoUse: its just pissing me off lol
[01:16] <nalioth> lightseek: why did you ask about video card?
[01:16] <amr> didnt work
[01:16] <darksoul> NoUse: if ubuntu 64bit doesnt work im going to prob send it down to a shop and see wtf is wrong with it
[01:17] <lightseek> nalioth: because videos play slow and choppy
[01:17] <amr> fuck it, i'll reinstall because im lazy
[01:17] <darksoul> NoUse: i really hope its not the motherboard..
[01:17] <amr> ta for your help, nn
[01:17] <bnD> Nalioth, didnt see anything under the general mouse pref's
[01:17] <aris[glande] > lightseek, that's not really true
[01:17] <cafuego> darksoul: Ubuntu64 works fine, software wise :-)
[01:17] <nalioth> bnD: i'm not sure on touchpads
[01:17] <NoUse> darksoul a motherboard would be cheaper than a new CPU
[01:17] <maxkelley> dmlinux, it means there's something wrong./
[01:17] <lightseek> SEJeff: what code?
[01:17] <aris[glande] > lightseek, wine has to emulate the numerous bugs of the win32 api ...
[01:17] <bnD> nalioth, thanks :)
[01:17] <lightseek> aris[glande] : whats not true?
[01:17] <dmlinux> maxkelley WOW  your a genius :P
[01:17] <lightseek> aris[glande] : ah ok
[01:17] <maxkelley> yes, yes, I know...
[01:17] <SEJeff> lightseek: You asked if wine was poorly written
[01:18] <aris[glande] > lightseek, that makes the code bloated
[01:18] <darksoul> NoUse: yea. i dont think its the motherboard thou. it seems to me somthings very wrong since suse managed to get a gui running and ubuntu cant..its said
[01:18] <lightseek> dmg|lnx: lol
[01:18] <maxkelley> probably something is wrong with the particular kde app
[01:18] <lightseek> dmlinux: lol
[01:18] <lightseek> SEJeff: ah yeah
[01:18] <darksoul> sad*
[01:18] <lsuactiafner> darksoul : did you check your memory?
[01:18] <dmlinux> maxkelley do you know how to fix it?
[01:18] <lightseek> im not sure
[01:18] <lightseek> was asking
[01:18] <maxkelley> reinstall qt, maybe would fix it
[01:18] <SEJeff> aris[glande] : It doesn't emulate. It maps a broken API and it's quirks, over to another API with it's quirks
[01:18] <NoUse> lsuactiafner I keep telling him to do that
[01:18] <darksoul> lsuactiafner: i dont know how for one
[01:18] <lightseek> aris[glande] : ok
[01:18] <lsuactiafner> darksoul : ubuntu cd has a memtest option
[01:19] <NoUse> darksoul google memtest
[01:19] <NoUse> darksoul you just burn their CD and boot off of it
[01:19] <lsuactiafner> darksoul : or even floppy..
[01:19] <darksoul> lsuactiafner: really? what is it?
[01:19] <bnD> ah, nalioth, i needed to grab a package called 'tpconfig' :)
[01:19] <misfit_toy> backup question, to completely restore this ubuntu laptop from a fresh install to the moment it's at right now..would the following dir's be enough? /etc /var /home /usr/local ?
[01:19] <aris[glande] > SEJeff, by emulate, I mean "reproduce the quirky behaviour of"
[01:19] <lsuactiafner> but really think its your memory
[01:19] <lsuactiafner> darksoul : just read the instructions once youve booted the system, press f1 i think for the options
[01:19] <darksoul> lsuactiafner: whats the option for the ubuntu cd?
[01:20] <Benny> prova
[01:20] <darksoul> lsuactiafner: how do we know its just not the cd thats bad?
[01:20] <dmlinux> maxkelley im just trying to get a nice Wireless network manager, but there are no good ones that dont give me some Bullshit error when trying to compile/install  it
[01:20] <mobus> where can I get the OpenGL libraries?
[01:20] <lsuactiafner> darksoul : also, even if your system runs, it will die after sometime, as everything gets currupted slowly
[01:20] <NoUse> darksoul cause it happens on multiple CDs right?
[01:20] <luke_> is it normal for ubuntu to pause every now and then, causing the mouse to jump when it comes back?
[01:20] <maxkelley> dmlinux: network-admin
[01:20] <lsuactiafner> darksoul : run an md5 checksum on the cd
[01:20] <devint> anybody else experience major lag with the bugzilla in Ubuntu? I don't experience this is Windows...
[01:20] <maxkelley> it's installled by def... works ok, I guess
[01:21] <darksoul> lsuactiafner: yes it does... but i wonder if it would work if i added my hdd from this computer lol
[01:21] <dmlinux> maxkelley apt-get?
[01:21] <maxkelley> dmlinux, I couldn't find a decent one either...
[01:21] <maxkelley> dmlinux, it is installed in the base breezy sys
[01:21] <mmHg> luke_ : I don't have that problem
[01:21] <lsuactiafner> anyways bed night
[01:21] <maxkelley> type it in a terminal, run prompt.. whatever
[01:21] <luke_> okay thx mmHg
[01:21] <mobus> where can I get OpenGL?
[01:21] <dmlinux> maxkelley oh that, yeah but that one sucks, im connected and everything, but i want a more intelligent way of using Wifi
[01:22] <carambol> hi
[01:22] <maxkelley> dmlinux, Windows takes all the good ones :(
[01:22] <Shadowpillar> question
[01:22] <carambol> how you install a .scr.zip file
[01:22] <mmHg> luke_ : might be your system, you got enough memory, power, etc?
[01:22] <maxkelley> well, I gotta be going...
[01:22] <Shadowpillar> why is the en-us locale not in ubuntu?
[01:22] <NoUse> carambol what program are you trying to install?
[01:22] <maxkelley> see everyone later :)
[01:22] <Xer0_h4x> SEJeff, the setup is stupid and it wont add a the c drive....why not? should i run winecfg as root? (i just removed wine cuz it wont work)
[01:22] <Shadowpillar> the only english locale is the GB locale
[01:22] <cafuego> carambol: Not. it's a windows screensaver. (or possibly a virus)
[01:22] <dmlinux> maxkelley thats because all the computer manufacts design computers for win XP , they probibly get some kind of pay out
[01:23] <carambol> proxomido
[01:23] <maxkelley> dmlinux, duh..... :)
[01:23] <litage> when booting from the Ubuntu live CD, is it possible to boot to shell and not load X?
[01:23] <luke_> mmHg: not really, it's a 750mhz lappy. 512 memory though
[01:23] <dmlinux> maxkelley if i didnt play games  i would get rid of windows, and clear up 14 gigs
[01:23] <maxkelley> I know :)
[01:23] <Dasnipa`> isnt that what wine is for?
[01:24] <mobus> where can I get OpenGL?
[01:24] <Shadowpillar> Question, why is there no en-US locale in ubuntu?
[01:24] <Dasnipa`> mobus: apt-cache search opengl
[01:24] <carambol> cafuego, promimodo
[01:24] <mobus> thanks
[01:24] <mmHg> luke_ : should be enough, does this happen at random, or when you run a specific app?
[01:24] <Shadowpillar> tired of abiword's spellchecker marking me wrong for mispelling center, as centre would get marked wrong in school work ;X
[01:24] <Xer0_h4x> can anyone help me setup wine ? it wont make the c drive....the new winecfg is crap
[01:24] <carambol> sorry, i mean proximodo, cafuego
[01:25] <vladuz976> i made a mistake copying some files in /etc system doesn't boot anymore.  can i some how get into single user mode and mount my root partiton from there and fix it? i have backups of all files?
[01:25] <Shadowpillar> Xer0_h4x: dude, it's pretty simple, the c drive is a folder
[01:25] <Dasnipa`> Xer0_h4x, did you get wine 0.91?
[01:25] <Xer0_h4x> i just got it from apt-get
[01:25] <Xer0_h4x> liek i installed it
[01:25] <luke_> mmHg: when it's thinking about stuff. all apps. only for a very short period (< 1sec)
[01:25] <Dasnipa`> id recommend the latest version personally
[01:26] <Dasnipa`> they have a ubuntu package for it
[01:26] <Dasnipa`> on their site
[01:26] <Xer0_h4x> but when i ran winecfg and went to drivers and added a driver it gave me an error in my term
[01:26] <mmHg> luke_ : does your video card share memory with your system?
[01:26] <darksoul> NoUse: whats ECC?
[01:26] <Shadowpillar> Xer0_h4x: create .wine/drive_c mkdir ~/.wine/drive_c
[01:26] <NoUse> darksoul its an error checking thing for memory, google knows more
[01:26] <darksoul> anyone know what ecc is?
[01:27] <darksoul> NoUse: well it says under chipset ECC: Disabled
[01:27] <luke_> mmHg: i'd imagine so.
[01:27] <bimberi> Xer0_h4x: wine includes a "winecfg" command, perhaps that's what you're after
[01:27] <bimberi> Xer0_h4x: sorry, missed one of your posts (D'Oh)
[01:27] <mmHg> luke_ : perhaps a less bulky WM would help, say fluxbox, blackbox, or something similar
[01:27] <Xer0_h4x> lol ok i got it to work now :) thanks
[01:28] <darksoul> NoUse: if all else fails ill just install server only mode from the cd then install gnome-desktop
[01:28] <darksoul> NoUse: whats the command to start GDM to run gnome desktop?
[01:28] <Xer0_h4x> sudo gdm
[01:28] <Xer0_h4x> first
[01:28] <Xer0_h4x> sudo killall gdm
[01:28] <Xer0_h4x> then sudo gdm
[01:28] <Xer0_h4x> :)
[01:28] <luke_> mmHg: maybe yeah, i'll look into it. i've only had ubuntu for two days so there may be some things i've missed
[01:29] <darksoul> thks
[01:29] <Xer0_h4x> np
[01:29] <luke_> mmHg: thanks for your help btw
[01:29] <NoUse> darksoul sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[01:29] <NoUse> darksoul then you should be able to use 'boot up manager' to set it to start all the time
[01:29] <bimberi> darksoul: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start
[01:29] <darksoul> im beginning to think that its my 3d card it cant install right and is causing kernal panic
[01:30] <darksoul> hey its more then possible, linux has been very picky before
[01:30] <darksoul> anyway its 39% done in memcheck and so far no errors
[01:30] <lightseek> darksoul: hehe
[01:30] <darksoul> ....................................
[01:31] <darksoul> ...........................................................................
[01:31] <darksoul> i take that back
[01:31] <darksoul> now it has 16 thou errors
[01:31] <nerdzyboy_> where is the xorg.conf file?
[01:31] <darksoul> 21508
[01:31] <darksoul> 30000
[01:31] <darksoul> god i hate you nouse
[01:31] <darksoul> 50000..
[01:31] <bimberi> nerdzyboy: /etc/X11
[01:31] <NoUse> darksoul those are mem errors?
[01:32] <darksoul> 390mb bad..
[01:32] <darksoul> yes
[01:32] <nerdzyboy_> thanks
[01:32] <darksoul> 430mb..
[01:32] <nalioth> darksoul: we dont need the play-by-play
[01:32] <NoUse> darksoul well mem is cheaper than a new CPU
[01:32] <darksoul> 450mb...
[01:32] <lightseek> darksoul: ah so you have bad RAM?
[01:32] <darksoul> omg
[01:32] <darksoul> 520mb
[01:32] <lightseek> NoUse  was right
[01:32] <darksoul> over 100 thou errors
[01:32] <NoUse> darksoul we don't need a play by play
[01:32] <lightseek> NoUse: you were right about it
[01:32] <darksoul> lol
[01:32] <lightseek> NoUse: good pick up
[01:32] <darksoul> thanks nouse
[01:32] <NoUse> lightseek I used the force
[01:33] <darksoul> it sould cost less then oh.... 100$
[01:33] <darksoul> OMG
[01:33] <darksoul> 700MB!?!
[01:33] <aet> darksoul: it might help to clock it down a little
[01:33] <darksoul> ALL MY RAM IS BAD
[01:33] <darksoul> aet: how?..
[01:33] <lightseek> NoUse: :P
[01:33] <lightseek> NoUse: sorry Im not a star wars cult fan
[01:33] <jeanluc> I Need azureus!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[01:33] <aris[glande] > darksoul, try removing your ram, cleaning the contacts
[01:33] <aet> darksoul: it just incompatible with yuor motherboard
[01:33] <darksoul> if all my ram is bad then how the hell could i run 2 css servers taht take 700mb ram
[01:33] <NoUse> lightseek neither am I
[01:33] <darksoul> aet: no its comatable, since they said it was
[01:34] <aris[glande] > lightseek, and if you have more than one part, swap them
[01:34] <lightseek> NoUse: ok :)
[01:34] <darksoul> aris: were are the contacts lol
[01:34] <darksoul> aris: the golden parts? and were would i clean it
[01:34] <lightseek> aris[glande] : what?
[01:34] <bnD> im very surprised there doesnt seem to be an included gnome application like 'ksynaptics' for getting touchpad setup correctly
[01:34] <darksoul> god 241664 errors
[01:34] <aris[glande] > oops
[01:34] <SEJeff> darksoul: The gold part that you stick in the motherboard
[01:34] <aris[glande] > s/lightseek/darksoul/
[01:34] <darksoul> AND ITS STILL CHECKING
[01:34] <darksoul> ...wait a sec how the hell could it still be checking if my ram is all used up....
[01:35] <lightseek> aris[glande] : :)
[01:35] <aet> darksoul: i think it checks it like 10 times
[01:35] <NoUse> darksoul it runs multiple passes, it doesn't stop until you manually exit
[01:35] <darksoul> ah its going to check my chipset i think..
[01:35] <aris[glande] > darksoul, at least, it will be easy to prove the RAM is defect. is it under warranty ?
[01:35] <darksoul> yes, i think
[01:36] <darksoul> but im going to try what you said aris
[01:36] <lightseek> darksoul: its not a comcrap is it?
[01:36] <aris[glande] > I sometime forgot to check a computer I started memtest on
[01:36] <darksoul> lightseek: dont think so
[01:36] <aris[glande] > memtest ran in loop for 4 days
[01:36] <darksoul> well im going to try 64bit install
[01:36] <darksoul> so i guess some of my ram was still good when i installed suse
[01:36] <lightseek> aris[glande] : it took you 4 days to work that out? :)
[01:37] <aris[glande] > lightseek, no, I closed the door of my dad's office and forgot about it :)
[01:37] <lightseek> aris[glande] : rofl ;)
[01:37] <lightseek> funny :)
[01:38] <lightseek> hugoboss: im wearing your undies today
[01:38] <aris[glande] > my dad asked a week after "hey, can I shut of the screen of the computer in my office ?" "why ? it's on ?"
[01:38] <hugoboss> oo
[01:38] <GhostFreeman> how do I run emacs in terminal-only mode
[01:38] <lightseek> aris[glande] : lol :)
[01:38] <lightseek> hugoboss: and I bought a pair of your socks once and they broke after 1 month, bad quality dude :P
[01:39] <hjack> I just wanted to bring this url to light for anyone who has or might remember someone coming in asking about w32codecs for linux
[01:39] <hjack> http://nozell.com/blog/archives/2005/07/22/w32codecs-for-ubuntu-hoary/
[01:39] <hugoboss> but they are pretty, aren't they?
[01:40] <nalioth> hjack: what's the matter with
[01:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell hjack about w32codecs
[01:40] <RaethDragon> Hey
[01:41] <hugoboss> bimberi: hmm?
[01:41] <NoUse> GhostFreeman 'unset DISPLAY' and then run emacs
[01:42] <Lars_G> So please, anyone got any ideas for being able to use my webcam without the kernel freezing before compiling my own kernel? please?
[01:42] <GhostFreeman> ok
[01:42] <bimberi> hugoboss: nvm
[01:42] <blackhat> I have a problem, I ripped a DVD onto my PC and when I make an ISO it turns out to be 7GB it should be 4.7 so it wont burn right...
[01:42] <GhostFreeman> this works
[01:42] <GhostFreeman> thanks!
[01:42] <Lars_G> blackhat: It can be 7Gb too.
[01:42] <Lars_G> blackhat: It's possibly a dual layer dvd
[01:42] <blackhat> Lars_G it wont burn it says its too big for disc.
[01:42] <blackhat> Lars_G what should I do>?
[01:43] <Lars_G> blackhat: You will need a dual layer blank and burner, or to split the image in parts.
[01:43] <Lars_G> splitting I don't know how to do though, sorry
[01:43] <blackhat> Ah, I see.
[01:43] <blackhat> Thanks Lars_G
[01:43] <misfit_toy> one more try, since each distro is different in directory patterns...can someone here answer this?
[01:43] <misfit_toy> one more try, since each distro is different in directory patterns...can someone here answer this?
[01:43] <misfit_toy> backup question, to completely restore this ubuntu laptop from a fresh install to the moment it's at right now..would the following dir's be enough? /etc /var /home /usr/local ?
[01:44] <Sedge> anyone successfully installed UT2K4 on ubuntu and have any tips? i can't get the shell script to work
[01:44] <ParTas> how to set alarm?
[01:46] <NoUse> misfit_toy you'd be better off just saving /etc and your home dir and then following this method to match packages installs http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/09/msg00152.html
[01:46] <NoUse> Sedge what error are you getting?
[01:48] <ispiked> is bugzilla.ubuntu.org slow for anyone else?
[01:49] <steigweis> strike! finally i got my nvidiadrivers set up!
[01:49] <Sedge> hmm, ok i got the installer running
[01:49] <steigweis> thanks, found the great wiki
[01:49] <bimberi> ispiked: it's often (always?) slow yes
[01:49] <ispiked> bimberi: :(
[01:49] <Sedge> by typing sh linux-installer.sh
[01:49] <Sedge> but it asks me to put in disc 2
[01:49] <Sedge> and i can't eject my cd1
[01:49] <Sedge> :P
[01:50] <steigweis> Sedge: what driver? 7667?
[01:50] <Sedge> video driver?
[01:50] <winston> heeeeeeeeelp, my ubuntu has been rendered useless and im stuck using windows
[01:50] <steigweis> yes is it the Nvidia driver from the nv site?
[01:50] <Sedge> i've got an ATI 9600pro (i know ati sux for linux)
[01:50] <Sedge> i just dumped windows yesterday :P
[01:51] <winston> i cant debug it and i even tried reinstalling and its still stuck with the same prob
[01:51] <mustard5> winston, you might need to elaborate on what the problems is
[01:51] <steigweis> ok, then good luck :)
[01:51] <thrush> winston: there is no excuse for using windows! use a livecd
[01:51] <NoUse> Sedge you have to eject it from the gnome desktop
[01:51] <Sedge> hmm ok, trying again
[01:51] <mustard5> winston, and how you the problems arose perhaps would be nice to know too
[01:51] <winston> mustard5 Id love to but i dont know how to describe the prob xept i cant log in to X
[01:51] <krischan> Guten Abend.
[01:52] <winston> stuck in terminal
[01:52] <winston> mode
[01:52] <litage> when booting from the Ubuntu live CD, is it possible to boot to shell and not load X?
[01:52] <mustard5> winston, have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[01:52] <winston> thrush id like to have it on my system
[01:52] <steigweis> i can feel no difference with nvidia driver or without... why all that work?
[01:52] <Sedge> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[01:52] <Sedge> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[01:52] <Sedge> eject: unmount of `/media/cdrom0' failed
[01:52] <Sedge> that's the error it gives me when i try to eject
[01:53] <Sedge> it's wanting me to mount disc2
[01:53] <Sedge> but i can't get disc1 out :P
[01:53] <mustard5> winston, try running the above command and when you come to the drivers section, choose VESA drivers
[01:53] <winston> mustard5 yes, i went through it and now i dont even see the visual login anymore
[01:53] <ParTas> whit what program i can write to cd?
[01:53] <winston> is there no way to truly format and reinstall^
[01:53] <maino82> winston: does it give you any kind of error when you try "/etc/init.d/gdm start"?
[01:53] <mustard5> winston, you can run the installer disk again
[01:54] <mustard5> winston, that should give you a clean install
[01:54] <thrush> ParTas: u can use your file manager for that, or gnomebaker or k3b. gui solutions
[01:54] <winston> mustard5 the install disk keeps the settings even though i tell it to format
[01:54] <senfo> has anybody here successfully installed and used Kat?
[01:54] <hypershock> his
[01:55] <winston> how much memory for my video card do i put in the dpakg?
[01:55] <mustard5> winston, if you were fomatting that makes no sense
[01:55] <Sedge> well, i popped cd2 into my secondary drive.... hopefully i can eject that one :P
[01:55] <aet> Sedge: lsof|grep cdrom0
[01:55] <kiroshi> hm, i'm having a problem- i can't connect to the internet, but i know which chipset i've got- via rhine
[01:55] <winston> mustard5 i know it makes no sense thats why im stuck
[01:55] <kiroshi> what module do i need to modprobe?
[01:56] <winston> it was good when i upgraded from hoary but now i reinstall and it keeps the problem
[01:56] <Sedge> what's lsof do? i got a warning: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev
[01:56] <winston> in config xserver how much memorry to give my vid card?
[01:56] <mustard5> winston, how much RAM do you have?
[01:56] <winston> 512
[01:57] <aet> Sedge: it lists all open files and programs using them
[01:57] <Sedge> ah
[01:57] <thrush> Sedge: lsof just lists open files..sorry cant tell u more than that withoug googling or something
[01:57] <aet> Sedge: do that as root
[01:57] <mustard5> winston, just give it some low amount like 64mb
[01:57] <senfo> actually, better yet, Kat is looking for a few things to extract text from various documents made up of many MIME types.  For example, antiword, cat, dvi2tty, html2text, man2html, xlhtml, etc....does anybody know where I can find these?  I've done a search in the Add Application utility and have come up short
[01:58] <mustard5> winston, you should be able to choose the default settings for each option when reconfiguring
[01:58] <mustard5> winston, what vid card you using?
[01:58] <dtamas> what is the point of ubuntu about trusted computing?
[01:58] <Agiofws> how does someone start sshd service on ubuntu ?
[01:58] <aet> Sedge: you can just kill the process if you are evil enough :)
[01:59] <thrush> Agiofws: i believe /etc/init.d/ssh start
[01:59] <Sedge> hehe
[01:59] <Sedge> well i closed my terminal window
[01:59] <Sedge> then the install aborted o.O
[01:59] <Lars_G> Agiofws: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start
[01:59] <thrush> Agiofws: sudo ^
[01:59] <Sedge> i'm gonna have to figure this out :P
[01:59] <krischan> Hi! How can I increase the font size when the GDM is displayed? The menu entries and my typed user name are so tiny, I can barely read it.
[01:59] <Sedge> is the best way to launch shell scripts by using the terminal?
[01:59] <winston> aaaaaaaaaaarg ok, i went through the reconfig, what now?
[01:59] <Sedge> and using sh?
[01:59] <kiroshi> can somebody help me get online? my computer running ubuntu can't connect to the internet.
[01:59] <mustard5> winston, what vid card you using?
[01:59] <Lars_G> So I guess it's recompiling the kernel for me? :'(
[01:59] <mustard5> winston, did you choose 'VESA' for your driver when reconfiguring?
[02:00] <winston> dont know but if necessary i can get it
[02:00] <senfo> kiroshi: by default Ubuntu appeared to use only DHCP...do you have a DHCP server running?
[02:00] <winston> i chose vesa yes
[02:00] <mustard5> and what error do you get when it finishes?
[02:00] <mustard5> winston,  and what error do you get when it finishes?
[02:00] <winston> rebooting to see if anything changed
[02:01] <Sedge> double clicking on the linux-installer.sh in nautilus doesn't seem to work
[02:01] <Sedge> but if i run it from the terminal it works
[02:01] <Sedge> is that the ideal functionality?
[02:01] <kiroshi> senfo: er, i have a router
[02:01] <thrush> Sedge: i normally chmod u+x filename and just run it
[02:01] <kiroshi> senfo: but in my experience with past linux distros i've used dhcpcd
[02:01] <Sedge> hmm
[02:02] <Sedge> i can't chmod a file on a readonly source though can i?
[02:02] <winston> ok i got in to my visual login screen now, butheres my error msg: your session lasted less than 10 seconds...
[02:02] <Sedge> this file is on cd
[02:02] <StevenK> Sedge: No, you can't.
[02:02] <thrush> Sedge: ah then sh filename i guess
[02:02] <senfo> kiroshi: are you famarliar (sp) enough with ifconfig to know what to look for?
[02:02] <Sedge> okies
[02:02] <Sedge> strange that it won't let me eject my cdrom though, when it asks me to mount cd2
[02:02] <winston> when i view detials the first error i see is icetransmkdir: error: unable to find transport:tcp
[02:03] <Lars_G> pretty please?
[02:03] <nickrud> Sedge, you can control that behavior in system->preferences->file management, the tab behavior
[02:03] <Lars_G> Any way to avoid my webcam freezing the kernel on breezy when used by any v4l app?
[02:03] <winston> second error is euid !=0, directory `dev`X
[02:03] <kiroshi> senfo: well, no.
[02:03] <mustard5> winston, lets try reseting your xorg.conf altogether with this command sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:04] <winston> ok.. trying
[02:04] <Sedge> hmm, that's cool
[02:04] <Sedge> even though my install aborted when copying files on cd2, it resumed from where it left off the second time i ran it
[02:04] <Sedge> linux ftw!
[02:04] <Sedge> windows sure wouldn't do that
[02:05] <Kenny> I've got a problem getting the install CD to boot on my new HP ZV6000 notebook.  i know others have it working on this system without this problem.  I posted this on the forum, but have had no luck there.  I'll post a link to the forum thread to explain my problem in detail
[02:05] <winston> done, trying to log in agian...
[02:05] <mustard5> winston, k
[02:06] <winston> still have the less than 10 sec prob
[02:06] <Kenny> here's the link.  If anyone can at least point me in a proper direction i'd be very greatful
[02:06] <kbrooks> why is making linux distributions too easy dangerous
[02:06] <winston> buut the errors are gone
[02:06] <kbrooks> ?
[02:06] <Kenny> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89212
[02:06] <Sedge> haha, now i can't eject disc 2 from my second drive
[02:06] <Sedge> any ideas?
[02:06] <Sedge> oh, wait
[02:06] <Sedge> it worked :P
[02:06] <kiroshi> kbrooks: because i've found it easier to setup gentoo properly than ubuntu, maybe?
[02:06] <winston> detaiils tell me Xsession is beginning session setup ... (but nothing happens)
[02:06] <server_newbie> Hi I want to create a web photo album on my ubuntu Server, and I want my better half to manage the layout from a windows pc. Can this be done and if so by what sw
[02:06] <server_newbie> Thanks for any help
[02:06] <kbrooks> kiroshi: reason rejected
[02:07] <kiroshi> kbrooks: darn.
[02:07] <Sedge> lol
[02:07] <kbrooks> kiroshi: too easy == like windows
[02:07] <Sedge> define properly
[02:07] <Sedge> :P
[02:08] <winston> any ideas on how i can get into gnome?
[02:08] <nalioth> Kenny: really new hardware sucks for linux
[02:08] <mustard5> winston, I'm just reading some stuff about it online
[02:08] <kiroshi> properly - getting everything running smoothly, from Xorg with nvidia and xcomposite, network, and apache.
[02:08] <winston> cool, waiting patiently :)
[02:08] <mustard5> winston, I won't be long... :)
[02:08] <Sedge> yeah well wish me luck kiroshi, i've got an ati video card :P
[02:08] <maddash> has anyone been able to control the laptop fan speed through /proc/acpi/ibm/fan?
[02:09] <ParTas> how set up Kalarm?
[02:09] <Sedge> apache shouldn't be that different between ubuntu and gentoo
[02:09] <mustard5> winston, check this out and see if you think it is relevant http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23771.html
[02:09] <kiroshi> ati drivers have gotten better though, right?
[02:09] <server_newbie> server_newbie
[02:09] <Sedge> i think so
[02:09] <Kenny> nalioth: I've seen posts where other people got ubuntu running on this same series laptop without this problem.  I know linux will run on mine, i've booted a knoppix disk and installed fedora, but i don't like that one
[02:09] <kiroshi> senfo: so about ifconfig?
[02:09] <maddash> anyone?
[02:09] <Sedge> i'll probably end up fooling with them here tonight, if this UT2K4 install works
[02:10] <nalioth> Kenny: i'm sure it can be done, also. i just have 0 clue how to go about it
[02:10] <Sedge> so i'll letcha know
[02:10] <maddash> does anyone have the module ibm-acpi loaded?
[02:10] <winston> checking...
[02:10] <server_newbie> server_newbie
[02:10] <Kenny> nalioth: any ideas to where else i could look for help?
[02:10] <Sedge> it just won't boot the install cd kenny?
[02:10] <nalioth> Kenny: here when some of the more knowledgable people are here
[02:11] <Kenny> sedge: correct.  it gets to a certain point (that i typed up on the forum) and it hangs
[02:11] <Sedge> what point?
[02:11] <Kenny> nalioth: is there a regular time that these more knowledgable people are around.
[02:11] <nalioth> Kenny: i'm surprised they're not here now
[02:11] <mustard5> winston, the very last post in that thread might be relevant...I don't know
[02:12] <Kenny> sedge: this link explains everything -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89212
[02:12] <basti__> could someone explain the difference between runnig gksudo and normal sudo ?
[02:12] <Sedge> kenny: checking
[02:12] <Kenny> nalioth&sedge: i appreciate the help!!
[02:12] <nalioth> basti__: gksudo is to start gui programs and sudo is to start console apps
[02:12] <bimberi> basti__: gksudo prompts for a password in a gui wondow, sudo prompts in the terminal
[02:12] <theine> basti__, gksudo is for using GUI applications under Gnome with root privileges, sudo is the same for terminal based applications
[02:13] <n0odl3> how do i check if i have xutils package installed?
[02:13] <basti__> ok. thanks for the info guys :)
[02:13] <mustard5> winston, you can probably do this yourself by googling with your error message btw .. I used the keywords 'ubuntu session lasted less than 10 seconds'
[02:13] <bimberi> basti__: take your pick :P
[02:13] <kiroshi> ohh, that was a sneaky move i pulled- i just ran dhcpcd from my gentoo installation on ubuntu.
[02:13] <kiroshi> and it works ;D
[02:13] <kiroshi> * :D
[02:13] <basti__> I go with bimberi version ;)
[02:13] <bimberi> basti__: yay :)
[02:13] <sajd> anyone using avahi ?
[02:13] <Sedge> kenny: hmm, i'm not too sure, reading your post doesn't give me any obvious troubleshooting paths to go down
[02:14] <Sedge> in my experience it's usually been video that's caused the installer to hang
[02:14] <Kenny> sedge: that's my problem.  i'm stuck and don't have any idea where the problem could be.
[02:14] <Sedge> happened with me when installing fedora core 2
[02:14] <n0odl3> how can i check if i have xutils installed?
[02:14] <Sedge> and ati video is notorious for not having good linux support
[02:14] <kiroshi> should i decide to upgrade from warty to breezy, are there any foreseeable problems, or should it be safe?
[02:15] <Kenny> sedge: that makes perfect sense...i just dont see why others don't have the same problem...
[02:15] <pox> what up
[02:15] <Sedge> i'm sure somebody a lot more technical could point you to how you could rebuild the iso including a different video driver, but i'm not quite that advanced =)
[02:15] <ubuntu> I need some help ...
[02:15] <Sedge> but i dunno if that's the right route to pursue either
[02:15] <n0odl3> how can i check if i have xutils installed?
[02:16] <theine> n0odl3, search for it in the Synaptic package manager
[02:16] <Lars_G> I refuse to recompile my kernel!
[02:16] <c0p> !sources
[02:16] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:16] <ubuntu> ... I installed Ubuntu alongside my existing Windows XP OS, so naturally I decided to install GRUB along with the Ubuntu OS. Now when I boot up, it says it's loading GRUB, then it comes up with a GRUB Error, and I can't get passed it, the only way I'm on here now is because I'm using the Live CD. Can someone tell me how to fix the GRUB Error?
[02:16] <c0p> !ftpd
[02:16] <ubotu> c0p: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[02:17] <winston> mustard5 it worked, im in my Xsession now and seeing gnome, only thing is some icons missing
[02:17] <winston> so I guess this is a good thing:) thanks
[02:17] <kiroshi> there was a good guide on o'reilly that had a guide on how to rebuild an iso
[02:17] <Kenny> sedge: thanks for the help.  nice to know that people will do what they can!
[02:17] <Sedge> =) no problem
[02:18] <winston> all my progs i installed are no longer recognised
[02:18] <mustard5> winston, did you run any programs as root?
[02:18] <Sedge> that's the main backbone of the linux support world i find, the users ;)
[02:18] <senfo> Lars_G: why would you refuse to rebuild a kernel?
[02:18] <winston> dont think so, just sudo
[02:18] <senfo> kiroshi: sorry, got sidetracked
[02:18] <QuestionZ> ... I installed Ubuntu alongside my existing Windows XP OS, so naturally I decided to install GRUB along with the Ubuntu OS. Now when I boot up, it says it's loading GRUB, then it comes up with a GRUB Error, and I can't get passed it, the only way I'm on here now is because I'm using the Live CD. Can someone tell me how to fix the GRUB Error?
[02:18] <mustard5> winston, I believe you formatted and reinstalled correct?
[02:18] <senfo> kiroshi: did you get your answer?
[02:18] <Lars_G> senfo: Because I don't want to compile the NVIDIA drivers as well. and also loose apt upgradeability
[02:19] <kiroshi> senfo: no problem, i fixed it by running dhcpcd from my gentoo install
[02:19] <winston> no, I tried what was in the page you sent me to
[02:19] <senfo> kiroshi: ok...sorry about that
[02:19] <senfo> kiroshi: congrats on getting it back up, though
[02:19] <mustard5> winston, prior to this though I mean
[02:19] <Hobbsee> QuestionZ: what error waas it?
[02:19] <mustard5> winston, you mentioned formatting and reinstalling to try to fix the problem
[02:20] <winston> yes, and its like it was when i reinstalled now
[02:20] <winston> which isnt all that bad unless the prob persists
[02:20] <QuestionZ> I forget exactly what error it was, I think the last two number were 71 though, I'm not 100$ sure
[02:20] <senfo> Lars_G: interesting...I've used Gentoo for years so I guess I'm not really sure what compiling a custom kernel would do to Ubuntu...certainly wouldn't work for me, though as I'm a kernel developer
[02:20] <mustard5> winston, I would think that you are back to a clean install and need to reinstall that stuff again
[02:20] <winston> im downloading the missing progs now to get my system to where it was
[02:20] <winston> yep
[02:20] <c0p> i have a dedicated server and i want an ftp daemon on it.. what is a stable, basic, ftpd?
[02:20] <winston> thansk for your help mustard5
[02:20] <mustard5> winston, k good luck anyway :)
[02:21] <mustard5> winston, we got lucky on that one I think :)  (I had no real idea of what to do )
[02:21] <Sedge> :P
[02:21] <Sedge> luck ftw!
[02:21] <Lars_G> senfo: :P
[02:21] <Lars_G> senfo: Yes I was just whining I know
[02:22] <winston> hehe yeah i always get lucky with comps with a little help, just wish i actually learned what went wrong but at least im back to work
[02:22] <winston> anyone know a good prog to use for making a podcast besides audacity?
[02:22] <Lars_G> senfo: And yes compiling a kernel is very easy but I wanted to whine and gripe. and pray someone knew an alternative ;)
[02:22] <mustard5> winston, well I would suspect that some program was run as root, that seems to be how others ended up in that situation
[02:23] <mustard5> winston, there could be other ways it happened, but I havent read anything on google about it so I dont know
[02:23] <Sedge> hey winston, does audacity convert wma's to mp3?
[02:23] <senfo> Lars_G: no worries...In this day in age, many Linux guys argue that a Windows person could easily run Linux...this is definitely true, but I certainly wouldn't expect hardly any of them to compile their own kernel...not saying that you're not capable, it sonds like you are
[02:23] <Sedge> and does it run on ubuntu? :P
[02:23] <winston> hmm Sedge, I dont use wma so i dont know
[02:23] <QuestionZ> hobbsee can you help me?
[02:23] <Sedge> yeah, i just installed ubuntu last night
[02:23] <Sedge> dumped windows
[02:23] <Sedge> but i have a crapload of wma's
[02:23] <winston> cool Sedge welcome
[02:23] <Sedge> that i need to convert
[02:23] <Lars_G> senfo: Yes I am :), and I haven't used windows in years btw
[02:23] <senfo> Sedge: congrats ;-)
[02:24] <Sedge> hehe, thx
[02:24] <Sedge> ok, ut2k4 install finished, patching and gonna try to run it
[02:24] <QuestionZ> Can anyone help me?
[02:24] <senfo> Lars_G: lucky you...I still often sit at a Windows machine at work
[02:24] <winston> well there is a prog called sound converter  that might do it
[02:24] <winston> Sedge
[02:24] <mustard5> QuestionZ, what was the question?
[02:24] <Hobbsee> QuestionZ: you'll probably need to go and find the exact error number that you got - it could be anything
[02:25] <deang> Ack! My resolution just got stuck at 640x480..  it was fine.  I've had this before3 when I forgot to turn my monitor on, but not this time.    Ctrl+Alt+Backspace gives me a console login, not another gnomse login. :(
[02:25] <Lars_G> senfo: Nod. I only use POSIX systems now, linux, FBSD and OS X. I know I'm lucky. they let me choose my env at work
[02:25] <winston> anyone use freecycle?
[02:25] <deang> winston: Yep!
[02:25] <winston> deang how do i install it?
[02:26] <winston> deang bewarned Im still noob on some level
[02:26] <deang> Uhh.. I thought you were refering to the Site that coordinates yahoo groups for echanging material goods locally
[02:26] <mustard5> deang, you on Hoary?
[02:26] <Lars_G> senfo: Now if you code in the kernel shouldn't you use or have clean copies of the kernel?
[02:26] <winston> deang no, im refering to a garage band type prog in alpha stage
[02:26] <QuestionZ> mustard5: I installed Ubuntu alongside Windows XP, so I installed GRUB, but now I get an error when I try to boot up saying GRUB couldn't start.
[02:26] <deang> mustard5: Edubuntu
[02:26] <Lars_G> senfo: Without any distro's/person's patches?
[02:27] <Lathiat> sajd: yep
[02:27] <Lathiat> sajd: i wrote some of it :)
[02:27] <mustard5> deang, hmm..k.. I guess the hoary how to on fixing res won't be relevant then
[02:28] <trappist> QuestionZ: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:28] <mustard5> QuestionZ, eekk...grub problems..I'm not very good with them soz
[02:29] <QuestionZ> trappist: I installed Ubuntu after I installed Windows, would your lin still help me?
[02:29] <deang> Ack.  I guess my mind is numb now.  I'm on the latest version.  Frustrated that I can't find an "About this OS" menu item
[02:29] <mustard5> QuestionZ, yes it will help
[02:29] <mustard5> QuestionZ, I've just been reading it ;)
[02:29] <QuestionZ> mustard5, trappist: Alright, thanks
[02:30] <odd-> hey, there's a chan. Called #ubuntu-dirty just check it out, we're all cool so if you're not cool, don't come. Only the c00l kids can come.
[02:30] <odd-> kplzthx
[02:30] <deang> there it is, system menu, and default browser page. :(
[02:30] <mustard5> QuestionZ, you come under the 'Grub failed to install' prerequisite I think :)
[02:30] <Sedge> how do i view what processes are running from the terminal?
[02:30] <StevenK> Sedge: 'ps axw' or 'top'
[02:30] <deang> Breezy Badger.  Resolution stuck at 640x480, previously happy at greater resolution for weeks.
[02:30] <darksoul> NoUse: you still here?
[02:30] <Sedge> k
[02:30] <NoUse> darksoul yeah
[02:31] <winston> anyone know if its possible to include an audio file while recording in audacity?
[02:31] <mustard5> QuestionZ, it looks like there is a bit of reading to do though before you start
[02:31] <sajd> Lathiat, hmm, i can't get stuff to display in dns-sd://local/
[02:31] <QuestionZ> mustard5: Ok, I'm reading it, where do I go to type the "mount /dev/hda3 /boot/" and "/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda "?
[02:31] <darksoul> NoUse: sorry, i did manage to get ubuntu to run on it 2 months ago, im just remembering, and if i clicked anything errors would come up saying i had to shutdown
[02:31] <Lathiat> sajd: ah, kde?
[02:31] <Lathiat> sajd: or gnome?
[02:31] <sajd> gnome, nautilus
[02:31] <mustard5> QuestionZ, you will need a liveCD
[02:31] <Lathiat> ubuntu's nautilus isn't compiled with dns-sd suppor
[02:31] <z3r0x> hi
[02:31] <Lathiat> t
[02:31] <deang> I like 'ps -Ac' myself
[02:32] <winston> anyone notice that evolution seems to be unstable in breezy?
[02:32] <NoUse> darksoul yeah that sounds like memory problems
[02:32] <mustard5> QuestionZ, using the liveCD you can gain access to a terminal
[02:32] <sajd> Lathiat, damn, ok
[02:32] <Sedge> /home/david/programs/ut2004/UT2004-Patch/Animations
[02:32] <Sedge> /home/david/programs/ut2004/UT2004-Patch/Help
[02:32] <Sedge> /home/david/programs/ut2004/UT2004-Patch/Speech
[02:32] <Sedge> /home/david/programs/ut2004/UT2004-Patch/System
[02:32] <Sedge> /home/david/programs/ut2004/UT2004-Patch/Textures
[02:32] <Sedge> /home/david/programs/ut2004/UT2004-Patch/Web
[02:32] <Sedge> oops
[02:32] <darksoul> NoUse: k
[02:32] <Sedge> sorry
[02:32] <blackhat> www.zevink.com (uploaded screenshot acidrip), im having problems with it, I highlighted everything and when I hit start it doesn't work >=/
[02:32] <Lathiat> winston: evolution is always unstable :)
[02:32] <blackhat> I mean, www.zevink.com/acidrip.jpg
[02:32] <Sedge> ./ut2004-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:32] <QuestionZ> mustard5: Ok, I'm on it now, nevermind though, I'm pretty sure I got to "Terminal" ... I was just reading a little more and I found it
[02:32] <darksoul> NoUse: how much longer will you be on>
[02:32] <Sedge> what's that error mean?
[02:32] <z3r0x> how can I find the right usb device ? I have see the device in usbview but I don't know where the device is
[02:32] <sajd> Lathiat, do you happen to know if that will change in the near future ?
[02:32] <NoUse> darksoul maybe 15-20
[02:32] <winston> thanks Lathiat, bu it worked well 4 me on hoary
[02:32] <mustard5> QuestionZ, yep...read all you can before diving into the practical stuff
[02:33] <n0odl3> can someone help me? im trying to run the program xmkmf but i get this error http://pastebin.com/431157
[02:33] <mustard5> QuestionZ, you need to be prepared and somewhat confident about what you are going to be doing first...so study first ..act later :)
[02:33] <Lathiat> sajd: hopefully dapper will have support
[02:33] <n0odl3> can someone help?
[02:34] <QuestionZ> mustard5: Ok, one more question, it's telling me "click Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal.", but when I click on Apps > Sys Tools ... I see no "Terminal"
[02:34] <sajd> Lathiat, ok, i'm running dapper, hopefully i will show up soon :)
[02:34] <z3r0x> lsusb shows me Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0711:0230 Magic Control Technology Corp. MCT-232 Serial Por where can I find it /dev/??
[02:34] <QuestionZ> mustard5: Ah, nevermind, it was under "Accesories" ... alright, maybe I should look a little more when I can't find something before asking
[02:35] <trappist> z3r0x: /dev/ttuUSB0?
[02:35] <mustard5> QuestionZ, yep..its moved in breezy :)
[02:35] <trappist> err ttyUSB0
[02:35] <pupil> what file do I edit for the resolution ?
[02:35] <n0odl3> does anyone know how to fix my error?
[02:35] <z3r0x> trappist, thx I'll try it
[02:35] <pupil> what file do I edit for the resolution ?
[02:35] <trappist> n0odl3: I don't know what imake is, but it says you're missing a file
[02:35] <trappist> pupil: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:36] <pupil> trappist, thanks
[02:36] <trappist> pupil: but instead try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:36] <pupil> trappist, its ok,. I'll just edit the file,.
[02:36] <trappist> pupil: it's not quite as simple as most config files, but by all means feel free to learn your way around it
[02:37] <n0odl3> trappist: have any idea how to obtain that file?
[02:37] <pupil> trappist, I've done it many times, I just keep forgetting what file it is,.
[02:37] <pupil> trappist, I
[02:37] <pupil> trappist, I'm used to xf86config
[02:37] <devin__> what package do i install to get rhythmbox to read mp3's?
[02:37] <trappist> n0odl3: I don't know what you're trying to install, what imake is or what the missing file is supposed to have in it
[02:37] <StevenK> devin__: Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:38] <trappist> pupil: gotcha
[02:38] <kinkoblast> JRC
[02:38] <Luka666> ellow
[02:38] <Luka666> im trying to compile 2.2.25 kernel and i get this error: http://pastebin.com/431167 Whats wrong?
[02:38] <mustard5> devin__, too many to list in irc :)
[02:38] <devin__> RestrictedFormats? gaah
[02:38] <mustard5> devin__, I can show you a list online one tick
[02:38] <trappist> Luka666: 2.2.25? seriously?
[02:38] <n0odl3> does anyone know anyhting about imake?
[02:38] <basti__> omg. this linux pptpclient totally owns the standard m$ one... they r not even on the same scale!!!
[02:38] <QuestionZ> Oh man, I'm having problems, so I type "/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda " into the terminal, and it comes back with "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."
[02:38] <devin__> Ubuntu's going to have a hard time reaching out to noobs if they don't bundle some mp3 support
[02:39] <mustard5> devin__, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies
[02:39] <Luka666> trappist: i missed that that the latest is 2.2.27-rc2 :>
[02:39] <Luka666> lets go again :>
[02:39] <Sedge>  compat-libstdc++-3
[02:39] <Sedge> anyone know where i can grab that from?
[02:39] <trappist> Luka666: 2.2.* is like 100 years old.  we're at 2.6.14.1
[02:40] <Luka666> trappist i know, but this is for an old computer ;>
[02:40] <trappist> Luka666: doesn't matter
[02:40] <Sedge> libstdc++.so.5 err that i mean
[02:40] <Luka666> trappist i need all the speed i can get
[02:40] <trappist> Luka666: 2.6.x is considerably FASTER than previous kernels
[02:41] <Luka666> even on older hardware?
[02:41] <trappist> it's not like windows where they just keep piling on the bloat because computers get faster
[02:41] <trappist> yes
[02:41] <Luka666> p1 with 64mb of ram
[02:41] <trappist> yep
[02:41] <QuestionZ> mustard5: so I type "/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda " into the terminal, and it comes back with "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."
[02:41] <Luka666> ok
[02:41] <QuestionZ> mustard5: What am I doing wrong?
[02:41] <mustard5> QuestionZ, you are going to places I have never been..so my help is pretty limited
[02:42] <trappist> Luka666: optimize for i586 and your specific hardware and it should run about as well as such a box could ever be expected to run
[02:42] <mustard5> QuestionZ, I'll read the how to and try to see what you are doing..
[02:42] <QuestionZ> mustard5: Alright
[02:42] <Luka666> trappist i wish i could remember what hardware it has :>
[02:43] <trappist> Luka666: lspci should tell you most of what you need to know
[02:43] <trappist> Luka666: err... if it even has pci devices :)
[02:43] <Luka666> it has pci and isa
[02:43] <trappist> Luka666: there's a package called pnptools or something too that should tell you about your isa devices
[02:43] <Luka666> and lspci doesnt help
[02:43] <trappist> isapnptools I think
[02:43] <Luka666> the computer is currentle in the basement :>
[02:44] <Luka666> currently*
[02:44] <Greves> can anyone help me out here? i want to get on my windows drive (/windows) but i don't have permission
[02:44] <liquidboy> how do i install gtk2 themes for xfce? (or xfce themes for that matter)?
[02:44] <Luka666> im building on another computer
[02:44] <mustard5> QuestionZ, do you have a seperate /boot partition?
[02:44] <Greves> i just installed ubuntu
[02:44] <trappist> Luka666: good thinkin :)
[02:44] <trappist> could take weeks to build a kernel on that box
[02:44] <Luka666> trappist 333mhz is a big improvement ;>
[02:44] <Luka666> Greves: mount it with sudo?
[02:44] <QuestionZ> mustard5: I'm not sure
[02:45] <Greves> Luka666, its already monted on /windows, i just can't access it
[02:45] <trappist> Greves: you need to mount with uid=1000 (if your id=1000) in /etc/fstab
[02:45] <mustard5> QuestionZ, you need to know this stuff to proceed...I'd suggest going back and reading the HOW TO from the top
[02:45] <Greves> trappist, i dont know what that means
[02:46] <Greves> i'm in the fstab, what do i do?
[02:46] <trappist> Greves: grep windows /etc/fstab
[02:46] <mustard5> QuestionZ, it asks you if you know certain basic stuff about how your system is setup
[02:46] <Deep6> guys can anyone help me install amd64 breezy.....I've tried all sorts of boot options (noapic, nolapic etc etc) but I can't get past 86% ide-cd insertion
[02:46] <trappist> Greves: or just paste the windows line here
[02:46] <Greves> /dev/sda1       /wi/de/dev/sda1       /windows        ntfs    defaults        0       0v/sda1       /windows        ntfs    defaults        0       0ndows        ntfs    defaults        0       0
[02:46] <Zim_256> Hello!
[02:46] <Greves> sorry my middleclick button is retarded
[02:46] <Zim_256> I just installed ubuntu!
[02:47] <trappist> Greves: replace 'defaults' with uid=1000,ro
[02:47] <minh> hi, i am using ubuntu 5.10 live cd. can someone teach me how to mount my harddrives?
[02:47] <Sedge> does anyone have UT2K4 installed and working on their ubunut?
[02:47] <Greves> trappist: thanks
[02:47] <trappist> Sedge: yeah
[02:47] <Sedge> gah, ubuntu that is
[02:47] <basti__> !ssh
[02:47] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[02:47] <Zim_256> How can i get root permissions for access the other partitions on my HDD? (W98 Fat32)
[02:47] <mustard5> QuestionZ, I think you need to view your fstab file to confirm you have a /boot partition
[02:47] <Luka666> minh: tell me what disk an partition and where would you like to mount it ;>
[02:47] <Sedge> trappist: i'm gettin an error message
[02:47] <trinidad> After searching, I wondered if anyone could point me to a replacement for WinISO in Linux.
[02:47] <Luka666> Zim_256 sudo?
[02:48] <mustard5> QuestionZ, try cat /etc/fstab and see what it has listed
[02:48] <trappist> Zim_256: put the uid=1000 option in /etc/fstab
[02:48] <StevenK> I have ut2004 working on Debian
[02:48] <Sedge> ./ut2004-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:48] <Sedge> any ideas?
[02:48] <trinidad> StevenK, NICE
[02:48] <trappist> Sedge: urpmi apt-file, then apt-file update, then apt-file search libstdc++.so.5
[02:48] <minh> Luka666, i am a linux newbie. i know i have two hd partitions but i don't know where i want to put it
[02:48] <mustard5> QuestionZ, the error I saw makes me think that /hda is the wrong drive designation, but I don't know
[02:48] <trinidad> any good .iso file manipulation apps for windows besides "mount"
[02:48] <minh> Luka666, i just want to be able to access files from my hd
[02:49] <QuestionZ> mustard5: Is there a way I can just get rid of all of it and start clean?
[02:49] <trappist> trinidad: what do you want to do with it
[02:49] <basti__> noooooooo! since I installed amarok svc I now have konqueror as deafault browser!! How can I change this very unfortunate event?
[02:49] <gearry> I have no sound on my system, but now I think I might want it
[02:49] <g00r0n> whats a good place to get ubuntu themes??
[02:49] <Zim_256> Where?
[02:49] <StevenK> Sedge: You need the package libstdc++5
[02:49] <mustard5> QuestionZ, I'm not sure actually
[02:49] <gearry> all of the gnome sound utilities are there, but they don't work
[02:49] <Sedge> ok, how can i get that package?
[02:49] <gearry> I suspect it may be because I did not install esound
[02:49] <trinidad> trappist, I can use rar for most of my iso's, but for some they don't work.  I am just trying to view/extract
[02:49] <Zim_256> I can't edit /etc/fstab
[02:49] <Greves> trappist: i'm getting an error: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[02:49] <nickrud> basti__, sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[02:49] <Sophistication> g00r0n, http://www.gnome-look.org
[02:49] <Deep6> can anyone help me install amd64 I've tried noapic etc etc
[02:49] <Zim_256> it opens in Read only mode
[02:50] <StevenK> Sedge: Using Synaptic, or what you usually use.
[02:50] <Greves> Zim_256: use sudo
[02:50] <mustard5> QuestionZ, dual boot systems are not my forte..I'm on a full linux system
[02:50] <trinidad> trappist, I used to use WinISO and MagicISO in Windows.  Now that I've migrated to Linux, I am in need of an ISO utility app
[02:50] <gearry> is esound the default sound demon for ubuntu?
[02:50] <trappist> Greves: what does that line look like now
[02:50] <Zim_256> How? Where is it installed?
[02:50] <Luka666> minh: can you write in shell: id; pwd
[02:50] <gearry> I would like to keep things fairly standard
[02:50] <trappist> trinidad: I don't know what those things do.  what are you trying to do.
[02:50] <basti__> thanks nickrud saved my night :)
[02:50] <Deep6> ide-cd is the last thing I get loaded..
[02:51] <trinidad> trappist, open/view/extract .iso files
[02:51] <QuestionZ> mustard5: Do you know of someone who would know if I could just get rid of it all?
[02:51] <minh> Luka666, uid=1000(ubuntu) gid=1000(ubuntu) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),110(scanner),113(admin),1000(ubuntu)
[02:51] <Greves> trappist:  /dev/sda1       /windows        ntfs            uid1000,ro      0       0
[02:51] <gearry> my sound modules loaded automagically, so that is apparently not my problem
[02:51] <trappist> trinidad: oh.  well then, pretty much you mount them and treat them like any other (read-only) filesystem.
[02:51] <trappist> Greves: uid=1000,ro
[02:51] <trinidad> how do i unmount
[02:51] <trappist> trinidad: umount
[02:51] <sajd> is there a webpage or rss feed with information on updated packages anywhere?
[02:51] <trinidad> i get device busy
[02:51] <gearry> I have not had sound on my main workstation for years, but I think it might be time to give it a whirl ;)
[02:52] <trappist> trinidad: get out of the filesystem :)
[02:52] <trinidad> ah
[02:52] <trinidad> lol
[02:52] <Greves> trappist: perfect, thanks
[02:52] <trinidad> trappist, thanks
[02:52] <trappist> np
[02:52] <Zim_256> Please wait... Restarting
[02:52] <cameron> is there a way to update to the new release without reinstalling everything?
[02:52] <mustard5> QuestionZ, I'm trying to think of a solution...
[02:52] <trappist> cameron: just update your sources.list
[02:52] <QuestionZ> mustard5: k
[02:52] <Luka666> minh: im a bit lost on live cds, but try: "mkdir ~/disk1" and "mount /dev/hda1 /home/ubuntu/disk1"
[02:53] <Luka666> minh: oops, the second one should be "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /home/ubuntu/disk1"
[02:53] <Chris_Tucker> how difficult is it to get ubuntu to dual monitor?
[02:53] <trappist> Chris_Tucker: I did it for my first time a coupla weeks ago and it was pretty easy
[02:53] <Luka666> trappist: i dont have enough room to unpack 2.6.14 kernel :>
[02:54] <Sedge> trappist: ok, i got the packages updated, and i run ut2004 and the splash screen pops up and now nothing
[02:54] <trappist> Luka666: maybe you will after getting rid of 2.2.x :)
[02:54] <minh> Luka666, mount: only root can do that
[02:54] <minh> . what's the command to login as root?
[02:54] <trappist> Sedge: define 'nothing'
[02:54] <Sedge> no game
[02:54] <Sedge> :P
[02:54] <trappist> Sedge: back to your desktop? black screen? what?
[02:54] <QuestionZ> Is there any way to just completely remove Ubuntu/GRUB since I already have Windows XP installed?
[02:54] <gearry> Luka666: same thing happened to me, all because I made a typo when setting up my /boot partition
[02:54] <Sedge> nope, splash disappears, and nothing else happens
[02:54] <mustard5> QuestionZ, lets move to a quieter channel...
[02:54] <gearry> I think I made it 10MB
[02:54] <Luka666> minh: sudo should take care of that
[02:54] <Sedge> i'm still on my desktop
[02:54] <trappist> Sedge: are you running it from the command line?
[02:54] <Sedge> yup
[02:54] <QuestionZ> mustard5: k, which one?
[02:55] <gearry> man that sucked
[02:55] <mustard5> QuestionZ, join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[02:55] <Luka666> trappist got rid of it ;>
[02:55] <trappist> Sedge: any errors on the command line?
[02:55] <Sedge> WARNING: ALC_EXT_capture is subject to change!
[02:55] <trappist> Luka666: sorry, I forgot what you were trying to do :)
[02:55] <trappist> Sedge: that's normal, it's not a problem
[02:55] <Luka666> gearry: 20gb of music got made the problem for me
[02:55] <Chris_Tucker> trappist, think you could give me a hand if i have any trouble when my fresh installation is done in about 30 minutes?
[02:55] <gearry> QuestionZ: folks around here would be more likely to help if the situation were reversed ;)
[02:55] <minh> Luka666, nothing happens. no response
[02:55] <trappist> Chris_Tucker: I'm not likely to still be here.  I have a kitchen to paint.
[02:55] <gearry> Luka666: well, with that in mind, perhaps you can help me
[02:56] <Sedge> hmm, so any ideas trappist ?
[02:56] <Chris_Tucker> trappist, haha.. ok
[02:56] <trappist> Sedge: that's all it says?
[02:56] <gearry> do you know if esound is the default sound daemon for ubuntu?
[02:56] <Sedge> yup
[02:56] <trappist> gearry: I don't know, but I would hope not
[02:56] <gearry> trappist: do you know what is?
[02:56] <minh> hey, guys. ubuntu can read and write NTSF partitions, right?
[02:56] <Sedge> oh
[02:56] <Sedge> wait
[02:56] <Sedge> Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[02:56] <Sedge> History:
[02:56] <Sedge> Exiting due to error
[02:56] <Sedge> it just spit that out
[02:56] <Sedge> in command line :P
[02:57] <Luka666> minh: i wouldnt suggest writing to them
[02:57] <Sedge> off to download ati's drivers i guess trappist :P
[02:57] <trappist> Sedge: before you do that
[02:57] <gearry> I have no sound, and I think it is because I am not running any sound demon, but I could be wrong
[02:57] <trappist> Sedge: glxinfo | grep rendering
[02:57] <minh> Luka666, linux still can't properly write ntsf?
[02:57] <gearry> I am not new to linux, but I usually live without sound
[02:57] <trappist> gearry: what sound card do you have
[02:57] <Sedge> direct rendering: No
[02:57] <minh> doesn't matter, i just want to read my NTSF partitions
[02:57] <Sedge> guess i need my drivers?
[02:58] <gearry> I know this hardware works because it worked under LIVE and when I had hoary installed
[02:58] <trappist> gearry: the sound daemon is for sound mixing.  you shouldn't be soundless because of no sound daemon
[02:58] <trappist> gearry: do you know what hardware?
[02:58] <hamza> hi every body
[02:58] <minh> guys, why doesn't ubuntu live automatically mount all my hd partitions?
[02:58] <trappist> Sedge: until that says yes, it's not going to work, and if you have an ati card, yeah you do need the ati drivers
[02:58] <Luka666> minh: dont know, but i still wouldnt suggest it :>
[02:58] <Sedge> ok
[02:58] <OptiPlex> hoary owns, I cant wait to see how breezy is
[02:58] <Sedge> going to download now
[02:58] <gearry> trappist: it looks like the module that loads is snd_es1968
[02:59] <gearry> that is some ess chipset correct?
[02:59] <trappist> gearry: run 'alsamixer' and see if you just need to turn up the levels
[02:59] <OptiPlex> minh, its not set to do that on all partitions by default
[02:59] <trappist> gearry: and of course make sure everything's turned on and plugged in right and all that :)
[02:59] <Sedge> huh, interesting
[02:59] <Sedge> ATI drivers are already optimized for your product from the initial installation.  Installing a new driver is only recommended if you are experiencing issues with your ATI product, including those mentioned below:
[02:59] <Sedge> -The latest proprietary driver introduces a resolution for drmMap failures on 64bit NLD9 SP2 and 64bit Ubuntu Breezy distribution, resolving an issue that prevented 3D acceleration.
[02:59] <OptiPlex> if you have something like an ext3 partition in /dev/hda2 try this: mkdir /media/disk2       then: mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /media/disk2/
[02:59] <Sedge> sorry for the spam :/
[02:59] <trappist> gearry: lspci should tell you what sound card it is
[03:00] <gearry> ahh, my master volume was all the way up, but pcspeaker was muted
[03:00] <gearry> I will play with that
[03:00] <trappist> Sedge: are you running a 64 bit ubuntu?
[03:00] <OptiPlex> gearry: on an imac?
[03:00] <Sedge> heh, no i just read that :P
[03:00] <Zim_256> I'm back
[03:00] <Sedge> default 32 bit install
[03:00] <Zim_256> How can i get root acces?
[03:00] <trappist> Zim_256: sudo
[03:00] <gearry>  ESS Technology ES1978 Maestro 2E
[03:00] <Zim_256> user: root, Pass: ????
[03:00] <gearry> no, laptop
[03:01] <minh> is it possible to install ati graphics driver on ubuntu live?
[03:01] <Zim_256> what is sudo?!
[03:01] <Sedge> but out of the box the driver with ubuntu wouldn't offer 3d acceleration for ati cards? (32 bit ubuntu)
[03:01] <Razor-X> !sudo
[03:01] <ubotu> methinks sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:01] <trappist> Zim_256: read ubotu's link
[03:01] <OptiPlex> ahh, I have to plug in external spkrs for the taskbar volume to work heh
[03:01] <trappist> Sedge: no, only ATI's proprietary drivers do that
[03:01] <Xenguy> Zim_256: short version, just use 'sudo -i'
[03:01] <OptiPlex> thats ok though, the built-in spkrs on G3 imacs just SUCK
[03:01] <Sedge> ah, ok
[03:01] <trappist> Sedge: and ubuntu's not allowed to redistribute those drivers
[03:02] <Sedge> ok
[03:02] <Sedge> i c
[03:02] <Zim_256> Password?
[03:02] <Xenguy> Zim_256: normal user
[03:02] <trappist> Zim_256: your password
[03:02] <gearry> trappist:  whenever I try to play a sound with, say soundrecorder, or open totem, they just quit
[03:03] <Zim_256> Ok, root@ubuntu:
[03:03] <Zim_256> now what?
[03:03] <Xenguy> Zim_256: and if you don't want root's environment, use 'sudo -s' instead
[03:03] <gearry> clearly I am missing something
[03:03] <trappist> gearry: try launching a sound app from the command line and see if you get any errors in the console
[03:03] <Sedge> rebooting, brb (crosses fingers) :P
[03:03] <Xenguy> Zim_256: rm -rf .... ah, never mind ;-)
[03:03] <Sedge> or do i have to run this fglrx or whatever first?
[03:04] <gearry> ahh, it says not Gconf default audo sing
[03:04] <OptiPlex> gearry: that happened to me too, i dunno how I fixed it though :[
[03:04] <gearry> sink
[03:04] <holycow> how the hell do i remove the fucking embedded totem player from epiphany browser
[03:04] <Zim_256> -->rm -rf .... ah, never mind ;-) What do this?
[03:04] <holycow> it seems to be part of the totem-xine package or some shit
[03:04] <holycow> *grrrr*
[03:04] <Sedge> trappist: do i have to run any specific thing after the installer completes for the ati drivers? or do i just reboot
[03:04] <Sedge> it wasn't very clear on that
[03:04] <Xenguy> Zim_256: man rm
[03:05] <Luka666> Zim_256: with root you can delete the whole filesystem ;>
[03:05] <Zim_256> Ok
[03:05] <holycow> anyone know how to remove the totem embeded plugin player from browsers?
[03:05] <trappist> Sedge: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:05] <Xenguy> Luka666: heheh
[03:05] <Xenguy> Luka666: your nick is ironic ;-)
[03:05] <Luka666> Xenguy ??
[03:05] <Xenguy> Luka666: you know, evil, 666, trashed filesystems ;-)
[03:06] <tritium> holycow, watch your language
[03:06] <raven> has anyone done a cvs install of E d17 with E16 on the same system?
[03:06] <Luka666> btw: we had a guy on the help channel of the local linux group that tricked a friend of mine to do rm -rf ......
[03:06] <Luka666> Xenguy: its not about the evil, i just like the number :P
[03:06] <nickrud> holycow, the only way I found was to move the libtotem stuff out of the /usr/ mozilla plugin dir, I don't remember the location off hand
[03:06] <OptiPlex> heh owned
[03:06] <Xenguy> Luka666: gah, that's nasty
[03:06] <Deuce_> Hrm...
[03:06] <zblach> Luka666, thats evil. worst i've done is Ctrl+Alt+Bksp
[03:06] <zblach> or Ctrl+C or Alt+X
[03:06] <trinidad> trappist, I have tried to unmount using sudo umount -a in the non mounted directory but to no avail, i get a device busy error
[03:06] <Deuce_> ubuntu doesn't use /usr/X11R6 and doesn't symlink *.so.x.x to *.so?
[03:07] <holycow> nickrud, oh okay i know where it is
[03:07] <holycow> which dipshit is packaging this crap like this
[03:07] <Zim_256> I just want all access and write permissions for HDA2
[03:07] <Xenguy> Luka666: number of the beast, dude... evil?  Depends on who you talk to =)
[03:07] <trappist> trinidad: not -a!  that tries to umount all your filesystems! just sudo umount /where/you/mounted/the/iso
[03:07] <wx9j> any clue how to avoid the need to reload a driver each time the box is rebooted
[03:07] <trinidad> trappist, ok brb
[03:08] <Luka666> Xenguy its because of the music.... ;>
[03:08] <trappist> wx9j: echo "drivername" >> /etc/modules
[03:08] <kinkoblast> how would I change every instince of dirname in a file to true?
[03:08] <Xenguy> Luka666: some band I've never heard of I assume, no worries
[03:08] <trinidad> trappist, still keep getting device is busy....I have it mounted in ~/Desktop/new....I am running shell at /
[03:08] <trappist> kinkoblast: perl -pi -e 's/dirname/true/g' filename
[03:08] <Zim_256> I just want all access and write permissions for HDA2!
[03:08] <wx9j> trappist, thank you
[03:08] <Luka666> Xenguy: doubt it. Iron maiden is world known ;>
[03:09] <OptiPlex> heh, I have mp3 support on hoary/ppc all ph33r me :|
[03:09] <trappist> trinidad: you don't have anything open that could be using it?  try lsof | grep Desktop/new
[03:09] <Sedge> trappist, rebooted ok, now i've got
[03:09] <Sedge> glxinfo | grep rendering
[03:09] <Sedge> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:09] <Sedge> direct rendering: No
[03:09] <Luka666> OptiPlex: i have MacOS 9.1 on PPC. me h4x0r :>
[03:09] <OptiPlex> heh
[03:09] <OptiPlex> i had that, and I bootlegged it
[03:09] <trappist> Sedge: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf in pastebin?
[03:10] <Xenguy> Luka666: I have heard of them, yes
[03:10] <OptiPlex> played diablo, and gave the CD back to its owner lol
[03:10] <Villa> Deuce_, no answer for you?
[03:10] <Villa> hehe
[03:10] <Sedge> trappist: pastebin?
[03:10] <trinidad> herer's the output trappist
[03:10] <trinidad> gam_serve 7907   trinidad   95r      DIR        7,0    2048      1472 /~/Desktop/new
[03:10] <trappist> Sedge: /topic
[03:10] <trappist> trinidad: kill 7907
[03:10] <trinidad> k
[03:10] <Sedge> trappist, kk, one sec
[03:11] <OptiPlex> heh, I h4x3d my logo, it says 'commimac' now
[03:11] <OptiPlex> own3d :D
[03:11] <Zim_256> And...?
[03:11] <Deuce_> It's just... very weird.  Can't understand why it would be set up that way.  I assumed that the guy who reported the problem merely did something wrong.
[03:11] <Luka666> do i need things like: System V IPC, BSD process accounting, POSIX message queues in my kernel? :>
[03:11] <bobx86> trappist. 'kill -9 pid' is safer :)
[03:11] <Milk_> Can anyone help me with an error involving pcre?
[03:11] <trappist> bobx86: uh, no it's not
[03:11] <trinidad> trappist, got it to unmount thank you again.....any idea why 7907 is coming up when i mount it
[03:11] <foampeac1> other there a good calendar time management task tool
[03:11] <trappist> bobx86: kill -9 is a last LAST resort
[03:11] <Sedge> trappist, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4597
[03:12] <Zim_256> How can i get the root pass?
[03:12] <bobx86> trappist. is that a ubuntu thing?
[03:12] <Luka666> Zim_256: sudo passwd root
[03:12] <Chris_Tucker> How does one set up dual monitor?
[03:12] <pc22> how do i display other font in my desktop ie hebrew?
[03:12] <trappist> bobx86: that's a unix thing - kill -9 can have unintended consequences
[03:12] <Luka666> do i need things like: System V IPC, BSD process accounting, POSIX message queues in my kernel? :>
[03:12] <OptiPlex> omfg, kill -9 -1 used to crash my suse box
[03:12] <wx9j> trappist, the file with the driver is a zip, how do I extract the name from that
[03:12] <bobx86> trappist I see, thanka
[03:12] <Zim_256> tha installation process don't ask'd me for one as in Debian!
[03:12] <Deuce_> SysV IPC you definately want.  process accounting, probobly not, and message queues, probobly.
[03:12] <OptiPlex> it was like "Login:" and it would jump back to a shell, then login prompt, and play keepaway from me
[03:13] <mustard5> Zim_256, ubuntu uses sudo
[03:13] <Luka666> Zim_256 its stupid people protection ;>
[03:13] <trappist> Sedge: change 'ati' to 'fglrx' onthe driver line
[03:13] <mustard5> Zim_256, try expert install instead ;)
[03:13] <Luka666> Deuce_ thx
[03:13] <Sedge> gotcha
[03:13] <trappist> wx9j: unzip filename.zip
[03:13] <OptiPlex> lol, dosbox is in universe w00t! *DLs super sleuth*
[03:13] <wx9j> tnx, figured it out as I asked the question,
[03:13] <trappist> Sedge: I'm off to paint the kitchen, but these fine folks should be able to take it from here
[03:14] <Sedge> alrighty, thanks trappist
[03:14] <Zim_256> try expert install instead ;)<--- Too much answers and much more complicated
[03:14] <Deuce_> Ah well, I'll assume Ubuntu didn't do that on purpose... benefit of the doubt and all that.
[03:14] <trinidad> goodnight
[03:14] <trinidad> trappist, thank you for your services sir/mam!
[03:14] <mustard5> Zim_256, have you used sudo before?
[03:14] <pc22> how do i display other font in my desktop ie hebrew?
[03:14] <Zim_256> no
[03:14] <mustard5> ubotu: tell Zim_256 about root
[03:14] <zblach> oy. anyone here setup dyndns?
[03:15] <mustard5> Zim_256, read the PM from ubotu
[03:15] <Deuce_> Anyone want to paste me the output of `ls -l /usr/lib/libX11*`?
[03:15] <trappist> tritium: works?
[03:15] <trappist> err
[03:15] <trappist> he's gone
[03:15] <trappist> ok, g'night all
[03:15] <Sedge> hmm, i forget, what's the command to save a file when using vi?
[03:15] <Zim_256> Zim_256, read the PM from ubotu <--- What is the PM and ubotu?
[03:15] <trappist> Sedge: :wq<enter>
[03:16] <Deuce_> Sedge: ESC :w<enter>
[03:16] <Sedge> right
[03:16] <trappist> or :w to save without quitting
[03:16] <mustard5> Zim_256, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:16] <trappist> ok gone for real!
[03:16] <PorcupineTree> Yes please paste that for deuce
[03:16] <Deuce_> thanks Tomba!
[03:16] <mustard5> Zim_256, I take it you nick is not registered or identified with IRC?
[03:16] <zblach> dyndns?
[03:16] <Deuce_> Hooray, Ubuntu doesn't blow goats!
[03:16] <Deuce_> I can quit happily now.
[03:16] <Sedge> i gotta relearn vi, its been like 3 years since i've touched linux.... maybe diving in head first without windows at all wasn't such a good idea
[03:16] <Sedge> oh well :P
[03:16] <PorcupineTree> I am curious to if I was the only person with the X11 problem...
[03:16] <Siph0n> whats irc?
[03:16] <mustard5> Zim_256, ubotu only PMs registered and identified users in IRC
[03:16] <shadeofgrey> fedora however, blows rancid ardvark nuts'
[03:17] <zblach> Siph0n, this.
[03:17] <Siph0n> k
[03:17] <ProTeus4> When using Ubuntu 5.10, and Thunderbird - what would be the method for getting the local system mail into Thunderbird?
[03:17] <Sedge> brb, rebooting again
[03:17] <shadeofgrey> i tried to install it on my secondary drive and it killed my whoile system
[03:17] <Zim_256> I take it you nick is not registered or identified with IRC?<--- i haven't registered anything
[03:17] <Greves> what chmod is dr-x------ ?
[03:17] <shadeofgrey> i just spent the passt 6 hours rebuilding my ubuntu system
[03:17] <Siph0n> lol i just started my intern at some software place, and in my cubicle is the commands for vi :)
[03:17] <Siph0n> so i been reading that....
[03:18] <mustard5> Zim_256, type /msg nickserv help register
[03:18] <zblach>  /msg quit tell Toma to stop with old jokes
[03:18] <mustard5> :)
[03:20] <MiD> here's my problem: i created a new windows partition BEFORE all linu ones, so that /dev/hda7 (my root dir) is now /dev/hda8 and so on... when i boot my pc, lilo can't recognize the partitions and ubuntu doesnt start at all.. what can i do?
[03:20] <Sedge> hmph, still no rendering ><
[03:20] <Sedge> glxinfo | grep rendering
[03:20] <Sedge> direct rendering: No
[03:20] <Sedge> updated xorg.conf file
[03:20] <Sedge> using fglrx driver
[03:20] <Sedge> hrm
[03:20] <OptiPlex> anyone know of a good C/C++ IDE for a beginner?
[03:21] <MiD> here's my problem: i created a new windows partition BEFORE all linu ones, so that /dev/hda7 (my root dir) is now /dev/hda8 and so on... when i boot my pc, lilo can't recognize the partitions and ubuntu doesnt start at all.. what can i do?
[03:21] <OptiPlex> umm
[03:21] <OptiPlex> *thinks*
[03:22] <OptiPlex> ok I got nothin.. Im better with GRUB :[
[03:22] <wegstar> My ubuntu installation boots up to configuration...
[03:22] <wegstar> but I don't have enough ram to support it
[03:23] <OptiPlex> uh oh
[03:23] <WildPenguin> MiD, can you get hold of a live cd and boot from that or correctly configure boot?
[03:23] <OptiPlex> how much ram?
[03:23] <wegstar> 32 MB
[03:23] <OptiPlex> hm
[03:23] <thoreauputic> MiD: use a live CD , edit your /etc/lilo.conf  - are you sure you are using lilo and not grub?
[03:23] <OptiPlex> familiar with a terminal?
[03:23] <wegstar> I managed to install the base system by creating a swap
[03:23] <wegstar> and then using swapon
[03:23] <OptiPlex> so you have a text-based install done?
[03:23] <wegstar> yep
[03:23] <NigelS> MiD: yes, live cd, e.g. knoppix to get in, then mount your / HD and chroot to that, then re-run lilo with the correct settings.
[03:24] <OptiPlex> not sure of the command, but get that box on the net, then get fluxbox
[03:24] <gearry> how can I tell if I am using OSS or ALSA drivers?
[03:24] <OptiPlex> not sure of the apt-get command, but that should run fine on 32m ram
[03:24] <thoreauputic> MiD: if you installed Ubuntu it wuld be grub by default - so you would need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:24] <wegstar> processes keep getting killed... and the configuration keeps restarting...
[03:24] <wegstar> :(
[03:24] <OptiPlex> :[
[03:24] <gearry> or, what is the default for ubuntu?
[03:24] <basti__> is it safe to remove everything in /var/log/ ??
[03:24] <OptiPlex> default on my box is OSS but its a mac
[03:25] <gearry> I am missing something that I need for functional sound, but can't find it yet
[03:25] <OptiPlex> ok it SAYS oss, but i know its esd.
[03:25] <ProTeus4> anyone spare a little help with configuring Thunderbird to get the local system mail for Ubuntu5.10?
[03:25] <OptiPlex> ubuntu probably hates your soundcard, who knows
[03:25] <MiD> uhm.. how can i get to that file.. my pc can only boot winXP at the moment..
[03:25] <wegstar> can I have ubuntu boot up and mount on a swap partition?
[03:25] <OptiPlex> hm, can wegstar do that? :] 
[03:25] <wegstar> ?
[03:25] <thoreauputic> MiD: use a live CD - knoppix or ubuntu
[03:26] <wegstar> oh ;)
[03:26] <raven> anyone know what --prefix I should use when I install the CVS  Enlightenment D17
[03:26] <MiD> is the 5.10 cd ok??
[03:26] <foampeace> ya
[03:26] <thoreauputic> MiD: *live* Cd
[03:26] <NigelS> MiD: the live CD part....
[03:26] <Lathiat> MiD: the 5.10 *live* cd, yes
[03:27] <Greves> i just uncommented the repository lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, and now when i load synaptic, i get the following error:W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:27] <foampeace> whats with the livecd?
[03:27] <Greves> there are about 5 of those
[03:27] <Zim_256> How can i get root acces to disable the readonly permission on HDA1 and HDA2
[03:27] <foampeace> good thing to have?
[03:27] <Zim_256> ??
[03:28] <OptiPlex> hm, why would I need an antivirus on linux? heh
[03:28] <Greves> anyone know what's wrong?
[03:28] <OptiPlex> isnt that a bit of a paradox?
[03:28] <ProTeus4> Theres a new Worm out just for Linux web servers
[03:28] <Zim_256> ?
[03:28] <OptiPlex> whew, good thing im not running a webserver :] 
[03:29] <c0p> how can i jail a certain user in a directory with chroot?
[03:29] <townie> I just tried installing ubuntu, near the end of the installation the screen went into plain command line and just repeated killed
[03:29] <dducko> That Worm, targets specific php code, and only on super sloppy configured machines
[03:29] <NigelS> you also need antivirus on linux for scanning windows users files, e.g. mail server/file store
[03:30] <Sophistication> townie, is this on a box with a lcd?
[03:30] <fkj3> hey guys
[03:30] <OptiPlex> well i should be ok, I dont use a windows box anymore heh
[03:30] <fkj3> i have a dell printer
[03:30] <fkj3> and I also need software that I can scan
[03:30] <fkj3> would ubuntu support this?
[03:30] <ProTeus4> I have also heard if you run Samba for anything, it is good to scan then as well
[03:30] <townie> im assuming no, its on an old piece of shit compaq that had died so i formatted and tried putting ubuntu on
[03:31] <Graider> there's only 17764 packages that Synapic Package Manager gives me. Where do I get more? Linux programs I download don't seem to work(?)
[03:31] <OptiPlex> well im not running samba yet, but i may later when I get a new HDD for my PC
[03:31] <dducko> Greves, after you get in click the reload button,  quit and see if they are still there (the errors)
[03:31] <OptiPlex> my 20GB died and that means im on the mac :] 
[03:31] <blanky> if I get kubuntu, will there be any flaws/errors
[03:31] <blanky> I mean, kubuntu-desktop, and install it on ubuntu
[03:31] <ecobuntu> blanky: yes...kde!
[03:31] <blanky> o.0?
[03:31] <OptiPlex> blanky: there are flaws everywhere in kde but then again Im biased :] 
[03:32] <fkj3> what software can I use to scan?
[03:32] <blanky> lol
[03:32] <ecobuntu> blanky:  no but seriously there shouldn't be
[03:32] <blanky> oh okay :)
[03:32] <ecobuntu> apt-get install kubunt-desktop should do the trick :)
[03:32] <ecobuntu> kubuntu
[03:32] <fkj3> what software can I use to scan?
[03:32] <OptiPlex> hm, anyone know which repos. fluxbox is in? Im trying to build the fastest mac ever heh
[03:32] <Sophistication> kubuntu-desktop
[03:32] <thoreauputic> !info fluxbox
[03:32] <basti__> why I cant SSH to my box from an external network? :(
[03:32] <fkj3> are you talking to me?
[03:32] <ubotu> fluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 757 kB, Installed size: 2684 kB
[03:33] <Greves> dducko: while downloading updates it says "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found"
[03:33] <OptiPlex> woot ty :] 
[03:33] <Greves> about 10 of those sor of things
[03:33] <Sophistication> basti__, is ssh running & setup properly?
[03:33] <dducko> !repos
[03:33] <ubotu> [repos]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[03:33] <Graider> ubotu: I downloaded fluxbox. I have no idea how to use/configure it once that's done
[03:33] <ubotu> Graider: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[03:33] <dducko> Greves trytht sources found there
[03:33] <ecobuntu> Graider: ubotu is a bot
[03:33] <Greves> dducko: huh?
[03:33] <fkj3> wow
[03:33] <ecobuntu> Graider: not a person
[03:33] <basti__> Sophistication, if I sit at another pc in LAN I can connect
[03:33] <ecobuntu> !ubotu
[03:33] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[03:33] <OptiPlex> woot, not big after all :] 
[03:33] <townie> sophistication: any ideas on whats going wrong?
[03:33] <dducko> !tell Greves about Repos
[03:34] <fkj3> can someone tell me what software I can install to scan pictures through my dell scanner?
[03:34] <fkj3> heh
[03:34] <basti__> and port 22 is forwarded in router..
[03:34] <ecobuntu> fkj3: you've got to be a bit more specific
[03:34] <fkj3> i need a software
[03:34] <fkj3> that would allow me to scan
[03:34] <fkj3> pictures
[03:34] <fkj3> i have a dell printer.
[03:34] <ecobuntu> not a driver?
[03:34] <Graider> ubotu: I'm all for a lighter desktop, but when I run it from the command line it should... I don't know... DO something?
[03:34] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Graider
[03:34] <OptiPlex> i dunno about a dell, but ubuntu auto-recognized my hp printer and my hp camera. I about had a fucking heartattack :] 
[03:34] <Sophistication> townie, I had a similar with a 2.6 kernel & passing "linux nofb" at the boot startup fixed it for me
[03:34] <fkj3> no the printer is detected
[03:35] <fkj3> i need software to scan
[03:35] <khermans_> How do I cat a file into my clipboard??
[03:35] <ecobuntu> what about XSane?
[03:35] <OptiPlex> hm, 'sane' should work but you might have to download it.
[03:35] <ProTeus4> fkj3: I use XSane - it works well with my cannon
[03:35] <Graider> fkj3: xsane
[03:35] <Sophistication> townie, I don't know if it will have the positive effect for you as it did for me.
[03:35] <mustard5> OptiPlex, watch the language in the main channel plz ;)
[03:35] <OptiPlex> sorry bout that mustard
[03:35] <OptiPlex> :D
[03:35] <thoreauputic> Graider: if you installed it using synaptic or apt, just select it from the sessions menu when you log in
[03:35] <ecobuntu> mustard5: are you a moderator?
[03:35] <khermans_> What file represents the cut/paste clipboard under Ubuntu Linux with default Gnome 2.12 ?
[03:36] <townie> sophistication: can you dumb that down a bit for me
[03:36] <ProTeus4> fkj3: you probably want to check out the Hardware compat list and see if your scanner is supported
[03:36] <basti__> Sophistication, couldnt it be set by default to only allow LAN to connect? and if so where do I change it? (Currently connected to lan through vpn, then ssh, but I dont want it like that ;)
[03:36] <mustard5> ecobuntu, no
[03:36] <Sophistication> townie, once you boot up & before you hit enter to begain the ubuntu install type   linux nofb
[03:36] <OptiPlex> :[
[03:36] <khermans_> When you copy text into the clipboard, where does it go?
[03:37] <dducko> ecobuntu, its just common courtesy, all different ages are in here.
[03:37] <Greves> dducko: the Packages.gz files it is looking for don't exist, see for yourself: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports
[03:37] <OptiPlex> sorry bout that yall :[
[03:37] <winston> is there a way to install skype on breezy?
[03:37] <thoreauputic> !skype
[03:37] <ubotu> it has been said that skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:37] <townie> sophistication: giving it a go
[03:37] <winston> !skype
[03:37] <ecobuntu> dducko: i was just curious
[03:37] <Graider> thoreauputic: oh wait. I forgot I tried that once. Heh. Yeah, that's right... it worked. I just don't know how to configure it. I'll google that up :)
[03:37] <dducko> Greves, Post your source list on Pastebin please
[03:38] <BugZapper> how do I configure my machine to be an nntp server?
[03:38] <Orandic> According to the Easy Ubuntu wiki http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf "Archs Other Than i386" will cause some problems.  Does this mean even if I install 32 bit I will still have the same problem because of my Athlon 64?
[03:38] <thoreauputic> Graider:  http://fluxbox.org
[03:38] <Sophistication> basti__, cp /etc/ssh/sshd_config /etc/ssh/sshd_config_backup  then gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config & take a look
[03:38] <Zim_256> I only need the f*cking write permission for hda2
[03:38] <mae> i'm building a new system -- what is your guys opinions on ati vs nvidia?
[03:38] <dducko> Nvidia all the way
[03:38] <Greves> dducko: http://pastebin.com/431214
[03:39] <khermans_> mae, nvidia
[03:39] <Sophistication> mae, if you enjoy linux & thats what you are going to run nvidia all the way
[03:39] <dducko> Stay as far away from the ati paperweights as you can
[03:39] <thoreauputic> mae: for linux, go with nvidia
[03:39] <felipe_> Is it possible to make the gnome choose a random GDM theme each time you go to the login screen?
[03:39] <Orandic> nvidia
[03:39] <ecobuntu> what's your fluxbox question?
[03:39] <slew> is there a way to have ubuntu turn on the numlock at boot up?
[03:39] <OptiPlex> heh
[03:39] <darksoul> NoUse: you here?
[03:40] <mustard5> Zim_256, perhaps its the way you ask :)
[03:40] <mae> really now -- from what i've heard ati has decent linux drivers now -- and even some of the new x800 chipsets have an opensource driver available r300
[03:40] <thoreauputic> slew: install numlockx and add the command to ~/.gnomerc  IIRC
[03:40] <OptiPlex> i wish there was an obscenity filter in xchat, so everything I type would be like f&%*ing
[03:40] <OptiPlex> heh
[03:40] <OptiPlex> that would be helpful
[03:40] <slew> thoreauputic, thanks!!
[03:40] <warter> I have an odd question
[03:40] <Sophistication> mae, nvidia linux +92 ati linux +10
[03:41] <Zim_256> As i said before: I only need the write permission for hda2!!
[03:41] <BugZapper> i will google it
[03:41] <mae> Sophistication: ??
[03:41] <Zim_256> How can i get thaT?
[03:41] <Sophistication> mae, nvidia has been doing linux longer & understands it better atm more so than ati
[03:41] <dducko> Greves, can you open your /etc/apt/sources.list and paste that there
[03:41] <townie> sophistication:i tried that again and payed a bit more attention this time, during the phase where the partioner is being set it goes to the killed screen where it repeats killed forever
[03:41] <darksoul> hey anyone remember me compaining?
[03:41] <Sophistication> mae, if you're heart is content on ati go for it
[03:41] <OptiPlex> question: anyone know a good IDE for C/C++? I'm a total newb, keep in mind.
[03:41] <warter> i have a driver for a Ti wireless card however i cant get the sh command to run the app
[03:41] <Sophistication> mae, but personaly I must contest nvidia the victor over ati in linux
[03:41] <OptiPlex> a VISUAL IDE that is
[03:42] <darksoul> anyone remember me complaining?
[03:42] <durt> optiplex: geany or scite
[03:42] <slew> Sophistication, i agree
[03:42] <jrattner1> I wish that in the U.S. they offered linux as an alternative when purchasing a computer like in sweden and shit
[03:42] <mae> Sophistication: I have an nvidia -- but on the other hand ati in the past released specs under an NDA trying to accomodate opensource whereas nvidia has stayed strictly proprietary from the beginning.
[03:42] <OptiPlex> ty durt
[03:42] <OptiPlex> heh, darksoul's back hi
[03:42] <Greves> dducko: http://pastebin.com/431216
[03:42] <UbuntuUser> hi could anyone please tell me how to install LimeWire on my ubuntu breeze? its an .rpm file
[03:42] <mustard5> Zim_256, have you read the guide on using sudo yet?
[03:42] <ubuntuissuperswe> jrattener1: love it or leave it
[03:42] <mae> from a functional perspective nvidia is better support -- but from a semantic viewpoint ati has tried harder in the past .
[03:42] <darksoul> Optiplex: i got it working
[03:42] <OptiPlex> omfg what'd it take darksoul?
[03:42] <jrattner1> ubuntuissuperswe, hehe
[03:43] <Sophistication> mae, I understand what you're saying *nods*
[03:43] <aet> mae: ... and?
[03:43] <warter> would anyone be willing to reply?
[03:43] <darksoul> OptiPlex: i cleaned the ram..but that didint help..well i dono..but it seems to me the 3d card was bad..i added a new one
[03:43] <veloct> UbuntuUser: do a search in ubuntuforum.com, there's a how to for limewire.  also you could use automatix to install limewire
[03:43] <ubuntuissuperswe> <-- is an American going to school in Canada
[03:43] <Zim_256> YES!
[03:43] <OptiPlex> heh bonehead :D
[03:43] <UbuntuUser> veloct whats automatix ?
[03:43] <townie> sophistication: does that bring any new ideas to mind?
[03:43] <veloct> UbuntuUser: otherwise you could use alien to change the .rpm to a .deb
[03:43] <NoUse> darksoul still working on your machine?
[03:43] <mustard5> Zim_256, and you think shouting might encourage people to help you?
[03:44] <darksoul> NoUse: i cleaned the ram..but i dont think that really helped
[03:44] <ubuntuissuperswe> <-- Was an American going to school in America then he didn't to go to a foreign country (Canada?) for Graduate School
[03:44] <darksoul> NoUse: i changed 3d cards and its now running smoth
[03:44] <NoUse> darksoul really?
[03:44] <veloct> UbuntuUser: check this out --> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295&highlight=automatix
[03:44] <darksoul> NoUse: i also took out one ram and am running on just one
[03:44] <OptiPlex> so darkdoul does that 64bit box OWN now?
[03:44] <NoUse> darksoul does the memtest pass now?
[03:44] <warter> anyone on wireless card drivers
[03:44] <warter> or how to install a driver
[03:44] <warter> lol
[03:44] <magpie> hello all...i have amd64 3000 and ati x600xt pci-e...i followed mlomker's ati how-to but i still have no 3d accel
[03:44] <ubuntuissuperswe> warter: yes
[03:45] <UbuntuUser> ok thanks
[03:45] <darksoul> NoUse: i havent tried, but i really dont think it was the ram
[03:45] <ubuntuissuperswe> what driver
[03:45] <OptiPlex> warter: good luck with wireless, I ph33r wireless
[03:45] <winston> anyone here recording podcasts using ubuntu?
[03:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> what files specify the default theme and such for a new user when nothing exists in skel?
[03:45] <ubuntuissuperswe> ndiswrapper
[03:45] <darksoul> NoUse: i think it was the 3d card
[03:45] <veloct> UbuntuUser: np :)
[03:45] <NoUse> darksoul how could the 3d card affect the memtest?
[03:45] <Sophistication> townie, you could always format with fdisk or my personal favortite cfdisk manually, & then install & just point ubuntu to mount the partitions with the mnt points you wish
[03:45] <kaiji> can i get some help with rhythmbox?
[03:45] <OptiPlex> kaiji: what is it?
[03:45] <OptiPlex> kaiji: mp3 support?
[03:46] <darksoul> NoUse: the screen went white before remember..that means its somthing else..it installed and couldent configure right... remember? the kernal panic..thats not from ram..that was from the 3d card im pretty sure
[03:46] <kaiji> not really it just wont laod any songs
[03:46] <OptiPlex> hm, but are the songs mp3s?
[03:46] <magpie> i have installed: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic, xorg-driver-fglrx 6.8.0-8.16.20-Oubuntu16 and xserver-xorg-driver-ati 6.8.2-77
[03:46] <NoUse> darksoul that still doesn't answer my question
[03:46] <townie> sophistication: the computer is completely formatted, i went into dos and gave the format c: command...so there shouldnt be a single thing on it
[03:46] <NoUse> darksoul memtest failed, that doesn't test 3d cards
[03:46] <OptiPlex> because it did that to me before I installed gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:46] <warter> its a texas in card i have the driver i just cant get it to install
[03:46] <darksoul> NoUse: it didint fail. it just had some errors...err tons
[03:46] <kaiji> it says "the file is not an audio stream"
[03:46] <dducko> Greves, First backup your source list,  'sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak'
[03:46] <kaiji> yeah
[03:47] <NoUse> darksoul 200 thousand errors, I'd call that failing
[03:47] <dducko> Greves, http://pastebin.com/431217
[03:47] <basti__> does the server install of Breezy have any firewall by default?
[03:47] <OptiPlex> that sounds like mp3 support is disabled by default heh
[03:47] <OptiPlex> try this.. apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:47] <warter> let me go dl a client that will let me msg  ubuntuissuperswe kk?
[03:47] <darksoul> ok ill run the test brb..i gotta add the disk
[03:47] <Greves> dducko: use that one instead?
[03:47] <dducko> Greves, replace your source.list with taht
[03:47] <dducko> Yes
[03:47] <Greves> dducko: ok thanks
[03:47] <durt> warter: using ndiswrapper? or what?
[03:47] <dducko> Yell at me if it doesnt work.
[03:47] <synackuator> does anyone know of a good disk cleanup utility for ubuntu - as in totally erasing free space?
[03:47] <warter> no i was using console
[03:47] <kaiji> oh okay apt-get is doing ist thang
[03:48] <warter> i may be missing your question
[03:48] <thoreauputic> kaiji: install gstreamer0.8-mad  and try again - I had that error on mp3 until I installed that
[03:48] <Sophistication> synackuator, dod 7 wipe standard style?
[03:48] <ubuntuissuperswe> what would you want to "erase" free space?
[03:48] <edubuntu-new> hi all
[03:48] <dducko> Hello
[03:48] <warter> dldrinstall.run
[03:48] <OptiPlex> hiz0rs
[03:48] <edubuntu-new> i'm trying to add a network connection
[03:48] <edubuntu-new> in edubuntu
[03:48] <edubuntu-new> but missing the 'add' in connections
[03:49] <kaiji> thanks everyone!!
[03:49] <OptiPlex> it work kaiji?
[03:49] <kaiji> OptiPlex, yes it did.
[03:49] <durt> warter: thats linuxant right? why not use ndiswrapper - its free
[03:49] <OptiPlex> i had that problem too :] 
[03:49] <OptiPlex> too many mp3s to convert heh
[03:49] <synackuator> Sophistication: yea something like that
[03:50] <kaiji> OptiPlex, thanks you very much very much and you too, thoreauputic
[03:50] <ecobuntu> maine?
[03:50] <durt> my comp is letting off this awful plastic smell, like its melting or something...
[03:50] <synackuator> ubuntuissuperswe: because "Free space" is not free space if u will
[03:50] <OptiPlex> heh the ONE time Im helpful, and its related to music... thats a guitar player for ya :] 
[03:50] <townie> sophistication: i dont know if this helps as well but the dhcp setup fails but i choose to set it up later
[03:50] <kaiji> haha
[03:51] <ecobuntu> gparted
[03:51] <dducko> durt, Spill soda in it?
[03:51] <Sedge> so anyone have any tips on enabling 3d acceleration? i've got the latest ati drivers installed, updated xorg.conf with driver "fglrx", still no 3d
[03:51] <ecobuntu> columbus in the house
[03:51] <dducko> *cough*nvidia*cough*
[03:51] <OptiPlex> heh
[03:51] <Sedge> glxinfo | grep rendering still gives me no
[03:51] <veloct> sorry Sedge i'm still running the 8.16.20 ones
[03:52] <townie> ecobunto: maine...
[03:52] <Sedge> yeah, i'd love an nvidia card, but i'm gonna have to work with what i've got for the time being :P
[03:52] <ecobuntu> townie: are you from maine?
[03:52] <ecobuntu> columbus no longer in the house
[03:52] <townie> yeah
[03:52] <Sophistication> synackuator, just write a script to stamp it with 1's & 0s in a random order & make 7 passes
[03:52] <thoreauputic> kaiji: I strongly suggest you read and implement the advice on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  to enable multimedia stuff
[03:52] <ecobuntu> cool
[03:52] <NoUse> Sedge did you follow the wiki instructions for ati cards?
[03:52] <ecobuntu> i am from maine
[03:52] <dducko> Heh, sorry..  If I could help ya, would have kept the smartalec comments to myself
[03:52] <thoreauputic> !restricted
[03:52] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:53] <gearry> I figured out my sound problem
[03:53] <Sophistication> townie, setup a static ip on the box instead of dhcp
[03:53] <Sedge> NoUse, i'm a little lost on that
[03:53] <NoUse> Sedge which part?
[03:53] <kaiji> thoreauputic,  all my avi's realmedia and wma stuff works jsut couldnt get the mp3's
[03:53] <OptiPlex> geary: what was it? :] 
[03:53] <kaiji> but i will check it out though
[03:53] <OptiPlex> heh my divx avi's dont work heh
[03:53] <thoreauputic> kaiji: ah OK :)
[03:53] <gearry> for some reason Gconf had send my output sink to esdsink, even though esound was not installed
[03:53] <ecobuntu> thoreau would totally not be on a computer right now...sorry dude
[03:53] <Sedge> well, all those steps involve using the apt-get to grab those packaged drivers
[03:53] <Sedge> instead of ati's
[03:53] <Sedge> so i just did ati's and followed the rest of the steps
[03:53] <townie> sophistication: where do i change that option, while installing it just goes from one section to another in the installation, doesnt ask me what i want to do
[03:53] <gearry> the GUI showed ALSA selected, but showed esdsink in the text box
[03:54] <NoUse> Sedge it's really easier to use ubuntus packages version
[03:54] <OptiPlex> heh, you NEED esound for gnome :D
[03:54] <Sedge> so do i have to "uninstall" these ones?
[03:54] <gearry> I just clicked the dropdown, selected ALSA just like it had been, and now it works
[03:54] <NoUse> Sedge which command confused you?
[03:54] <warter> anyone still willing to give advice on a network car driver
[03:54] <OptiPlex> i dig ubuntu's packages
[03:54] <gearry> OptiPlex: I don't think you do
[03:54] <thoreauputic> ecobuntu: think Civil Disobedience, not Walden  :)
[03:54] <OptiPlex> as well as FreeBSD's :] 
[03:54] <gearry> you need the client, and esound common, but not the demo
[03:54] <ecobuntu> oh i see
[03:54] <Sedge> one sec
[03:54] <gearry> daemon
[03:54] <ecobuntu> i was thinking about New Hampshire
[03:54] <OptiPlex> well, that was the impression i was given but yknow... dont believe everything :D
[03:54] <magpie> did anyone see what i typed above abut ati driver?
[03:55] <ULffuntu> hey Opti, do you know how to get BSD on a USB boot?
[03:55] <magpie> i guess i could post on forum
[03:55] <OptiPlex> heh, i havent tried that yet
[03:55] <ULffuntu> i boot Ubuntu off USB
[03:55] <OptiPlex> i got it to coexist with win2k and suse, but that took a few tries :] 
[03:55] <ecobuntu> ULffuntu: why are you asking about bsd?
[03:55] <Sedge> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4598
[03:56] <Sedge> that's my current xorg.conf
[03:56] <warter> ulf you have to have a bios that will let you select drives loaded on ports
[03:56] <gearry> anyone know how to get totem to play m3u files?
[03:56] <warter> (aka damn good bios)
[03:56] <OptiPlex> debian is partially based off bsd, *i think* heh
[03:56] <ULffuntu> ubuntu was the easiest to boot off USB
[03:56] <mobus> I have a computer where at the time of ubuntu installation there was no ethernet, but now there is.  How do I add a connection?
[03:56] <ecobuntu> so is every linux distro
[03:56] <nemik> hello everyone
[03:56] <OptiPlex> gearry: use rhythmbox, it's all about d4 playlist :] 
[03:56] <gearry> OptiPlex: no, you are completely wrong
[03:56] <warter> i tried to boot ubuntu off my ipod
[03:56] <townie> sophistication: anything?
[03:56] <OptiPlex> hm, I am wrong. big surprise there.
[03:56] <NoUse> Sedge yeah but what part of the wiki confused you?
[03:56] <ULffuntu> :)
[03:57] <mobus> someone?
[03:57] <nemik> so before i go and code this in sheel/bash myself, does anyone know of a crontab MP3 alarm clock that can only be de-activated by doing a simple, random, math problem?
[03:57] <warter> almost got it
[03:57] <OptiPlex> its more BSD than RH, Ill tell you that. and Ubuntu WORKS.
[03:57] <ecobuntu> rpms suck
[03:57] <Sedge> NoUse, there aren't any spots for Breezy instructions on the wiki
[03:57] <warter> ulf could you give me some advise on a network card?
[03:57] <ULffuntu> Ubuntu-Centos-Mandriva
[03:57] <ULffuntu> how module advice?
[03:57] <Sophistication> townie, ?
[03:57] <gearry> to say that a linux distro is based on BSD shows a gross misunderstanding or ignorance of the history of unix like operating systems
[03:57] <ecobuntu> apt-get!  enough said!
[03:57] <mobus> can someone tell me how to add an ethernet connection to another computer?
[03:58] <NoUse> Sedge it'll work for breezy too, just follow the hoary instructions
[03:58] <gearry> mobus: use a crossover cable
[03:58] <ecobuntu> gearry: linux and bsd share a lot of GNU programs and development together
[03:58] <townie> sophistication: how do i go about changing the installation from dhcp to static?
[03:58] <Sedge> ok, so now that i've installed the ati ones do i need to undo anything?
[03:58] <ecobuntu> they have developed together and have helped one another out
[03:58] <mobus> IU don;'t need a crossover cable.  The physical connection is there.  I just need Ubuntu to add it
[03:58] <NoUse> Sedge I don't think so, I'm not really sure ATI provides an uninstaller
[03:58] <gearry> sure, they both pull from the same sources, but that does not make any linux distro "based on BSD"
[03:58] <ecobuntu> well a lot of installers are BSD based
[03:59] <firestone> ubotu tell me about repositories
[03:59] <OptiPlex> I said 'partially' based on BSD. touche.
[03:59] <gearry> um, name one
[03:59] <Sedge> ok, will do
[03:59] <ecobuntu> slackware
[03:59] <ecobuntu> thank you gearry
[03:59] <OptiPlex> yeah, slack owns for SOME reason :D
[03:59] <ecobuntu> can i get my medal
[03:59] <gearry> so slackware uses BSD to install linux?
[03:59] <gearry> I don't think so
[03:59] <ecobuntu> slackware's installer is based on BSD installer
[03:59] <OptiPlex> slackware's whole OS is based on BSD.
[03:59] <ecobuntu> that's all i said
[03:59] <ecobuntu> you need to read above
[03:59] <OptiPlex> from what Ive been told, but I can't read binary that well
[03:59] <ecobuntu> linux doesn't equal bsd
[04:00] <thoreauputic> guys , BSD discussions to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:00] <OptiPlex> RH= sys V
[04:00] <ecobuntu> but linux borrows from bsd
[04:00] <Sophistication> gearry, no
[04:00] <OptiPlex> yeah i know. i originally said that synaptic owned as much as the bsd ports collection
[04:00] <darwin> are backports already available?
[04:00] <OptiPlex> then it spiraled out of control, for which I say 'my bad' atm
[04:00] <Sophistication> gearry, slackware uses a few old style scripts in the same line as freebsd does
[04:00] <mobus> can someone help me set up an eth0?
[04:00] <Sophistication> gearry, & other than that slackware is nothing like freebsd.
[04:01] <warter> can anyone give me a hand with this wireless card from hell?
[04:01] <ecobuntu> i never said it was like BSD
[04:01] <fanopnaic> mobus: if the connection is there you should be able to see it with `ifconfig`
[04:01] <ecobuntu> i said that it borrowed and developed from BSD stuff
[04:01] <OptiPlex> slackware reminds me of bsd, and so does ubuntu
[04:01] <NoUse> mobus if you can describe the problem you are having
[04:01] <Sophistication> hey lets talk about ubuntu
[04:01] <thoreauputic> second warning : #ubuntu-offtopic for off-topic discusssion, please
[04:01] <mobus> it wasn't there when I installed Ubuntu
[04:01] <OptiPlex> well freebsd that is, because ubuntu is just as easy to use as fbsd
[04:01] <mobus> and in the network in administration it doesn't show up
[04:01] <gearry> sorry
[04:01] <jedrick> how can i add dsp plugin?
[04:01] <fanopnaic> mobus: then chances are your card is not supported.
[04:01] <OptiPlex> frankly, ubuntu 'OWNZ'
[04:02] <ecobuntu> what does OWNZ mean in this context?
[04:02] <NoUse> mobus open up a terminal and run ifconfig
[04:02] <ecobuntu> i think i am getting old or something
[04:02] <mobus> I did describe it, my computer is physically connected to the therenet, but it wasn't when I installed Linux, but I connected it later
[04:02] <NoUse> mobus you can put the output in #flood or pastebin
[04:02] <c0rrupt> how can i setup apache to display index.html without typing in the /index.html at the end of the url?
[04:03] <OptiPlex> hm, try this mobus: sudo network-admin
[04:03] <Sophistication> townie, pull the ether cord so it want pull dhcp during install
[04:03] <mobus> there IS no output
[04:03] <OptiPlex> and mess with that
[04:03] <townie> ok im lost here people, pretty soon here im going just start drinking and try again tomorrow if i cant get this to install
[04:03] <jedrick> how can i add dsp plugin?
[04:03] <mobus> just for 127.0.0.1
[04:03] <NoUse> mobus ifconfig -a
[04:04] <mobus> I DID!
[04:04] <OptiPlex> heh, synchronized quitting. that almost makes me feel bad
[04:04] <kent> I get this message all the time from the program logcheck. "atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0)".  What to do about it? I have only 3 special-buttons on my keyboard and never press them. The message seems to be about some button i press which gnome dont know about.. I  dont want to risk making some button go crasy :(
[04:04] <OptiPlex> townie: dont go for d4 b00ze!
[04:04] <mobus> It only gives me info for lo not eth0
[04:04] <OptiPlex> n0000)!
[04:04] <firestone> Ive, added all repositories yet i still cant find software like MPLAYER whats am i doing wrong
[04:04] <NoUse> mobus you ran ifconfig -a ?
[04:04] <mobus> and I want it to recognize eth0
[04:04] <firestone> by adding i mean enabled
[04:04] <Kratos> I would like to know how I can use the Hoary Live-CD to wipe the partition info on my hard disk.
[04:04] <ecobuntu> mobus: ifconfigh eth0 plumb
[04:04] <mobus> yes
[04:04] <Kratos> Can someone help?
[04:04] <ecobuntu> oops ifconfig
[04:04] <townie> while installing the dhcp fails and i choose to configure it later, then while setting the partitions the installation seemingly shuts down the computer goes to command line and just say killed over and over again, im installing on an old compaq that i formatted completely
[04:04] <ecobuntu> mobus: ifconfig eth0 up
[04:04] <NoUse> mobus what kind of network card do you have?
[04:04] <kent> it recomends "Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known"  but is that enough for it to not show up in the logs?
[04:04] <ecobuntu> what's lpsci say?
[04:05] <dducko> firestone, quick question, you searching for mplayer or MPLAYER?
[04:05] <mobus> its on the motherboard
[04:05] <warter> NoUse: would you be able to give me some advise on a network card
[04:05] <ecobuntu> i ment lspci
[04:05] <Kratos> How would I use the Hoary Live-CD to wipe the partition info on my hard disk?
[04:05] <firestone> dducko, mplayer
[04:05] <NoUse> warter ask the whole channel
[04:05] <ecobuntu> mobus: are you trying to use dhcp?
[04:05] <dducko> firestone, could you post your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin
[04:05] <firestone> dducko, syre
[04:06] <firestone> dducko, sure
[04:06] <ecobuntu> mobus: what kind of ethernet card? run lspci at the terminal
[04:06] <tomaj> where do i check my x-chat logs?
[04:06] <mobus> its nVidia
[04:06] <ecobuntu> mobus: nVidia ethernet card?
[04:06] <mobus> and yes I'm trying to use DHCP
[04:06] <mobus> Nvidia motherboard
[04:06] <ecobuntu> does it show up in lspci?
[04:06] <NoUse> ecobuntu probably the nvidia chipset
[04:06] <ecobuntu> ok
[04:06] <mobus> with integrated ethernet
[04:06] <ecobuntu> mobus: run lspci
[04:06] <NoUse> mobus which version of the nforce chipset
[04:07] <townie> anyone have suggestions on how to make ubuntu install
[04:07] <nemik> so i have a program installed on the gnome menu on the top left. is there any way for me to add the 'sudo' command before it so it will launch with 'sudo <app-name>' when i click on it?
[04:07] <OptiPlex> townie: on what kind of machine?
[04:07] <ecobuntu> townie: what's the problem?
[04:07] <warter> would someone please give me a hand with how to install a wireless card in to ubuntu
[04:07] <townie> an old compaq
[04:07] <ecobuntu> warter: what kind of card?
[04:07] <ecobuntu> townie: can you boot into the cd?
[04:07] <townie> yeah
[04:07] <OptiPlex> hm how old? 486, P1, P2?
[04:07] <ecobuntu> townie: what's the problem?
[04:07] <townie> the installation shows up
[04:07] <warter> Ti acx 111
[04:07] <townie> and goes fine
[04:07] <firestone> dducko, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4599
[04:08] <Kratos> How do I wipe my HDD with the live CD?
[04:08] <thoreauputic> nemik: sure, you can change the command to gksudo <command> in the menu editor
[04:08] <townie> then during the partioning it just says killed killed killed killed over and over and over again
[04:08] <benguin> hi guys
[04:08] <ecobuntu> Kratos: fdisk
[04:08] <ULffuntu> gparted
[04:08] <Kratos> ....
[04:08] <benguin> anyone here using 2.6.14 with breezy?
[04:08] <durt> warter: i have that too: use ndiswrapper, and before modprobe ndiswrapper, you have to rmmod acx_pci
[04:08] <Kratos> really?
[04:08] <Kratos> Huh
[04:08] <ecobuntu> Kratos: fdisk is easy
[04:08] <arcanistherogue> what is the C++ IRC chanel?
[04:08] <durt> #c++?
[04:08] <Kratos> I don't have a Windows Boot floppy, though
[04:08] <nemik> thoreauputic, how do i get to this menu editor? sorry i'm more of a terminal guy
[04:09] <OptiPlex> townie: if it's a REAAAAL old compaq, ubuntu may not support it. nothing is out of the question with older boxes yknow.
[04:09] <Kratos> or a Floppy drive
[04:09] <ecobuntu> Kratos: what do you have just a CD?
[04:09] <veloct> Kratos: you don't need either
[04:09] <Kratos> Yeah
[04:09] <thoreauputic> arcanistherogue: I assume you tried /join #c++  ?
[04:09] <ecobuntu> Kratos: fdisk is a program run at the terminal
[04:09] <warter> hey durt is something that i can read to walk me through that
[04:09] <firestone> dducko, see any clues
[04:09] <arcanistherogue> heh
[04:09] <Kratos> Thought so
[04:09] <ecobuntu> Kratos: sudo fdisk
[04:09] <veloct> Kratos: or cfdisk, either one works
[04:09] <YokoZar> How do I configure OpenGL to be brighter?
[04:09] <arcanistherogue> :D
[04:09] <warter> im a total noob on my way to OS X 86
[04:09] <darksoul> NoUse: eye twiches
[04:09] <thoreauputic> nemik: it's in accessories or system tools I think
[04:10] <darksoul> NoUse: the first scan i did showed nothing wrong
[04:10] <durt> warter: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[04:10] <ecobuntu> there is a distribution coming out on opensolaris based on ubuntu called nexenta OS
[04:10] <thoreauputic> nemik: asuming this is breezy...
[04:10] <darksoul> NoUse: i added the other memory stick, scaned..still nothing, started up ubuntu, crash crash crash,. desktop cannot be started
[04:10] <veloct> thoreauputic: system tools
[04:10] <townie> exobuntu/optiplex: it isnt too terribly old maybe a 2001 (which is ancient but should be able to run a ubuntu right...?)
[04:10] <nemik> thoreauputic: it is breezy, thanks i'll have a look around
[04:10] <darksoul> NoUse: took out the ram i put in, used the one stick. it loaded fine
[04:10] <ecobuntu> townie: definitely
[04:10] <dducko> firestone, backup your source.list first then try this list
[04:10] <dducko> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4600
[04:10] <ecobuntu> townie: what kind of processor?
[04:10] <darksoul> NoUse: SO, either the other stick is bad, OR the other slot is bad
[04:10] <ecobuntu> townie: where is hanging?
[04:10] <thoreauputic> veloct: OK - I installed alacarte so my menu is different
[04:10] <OptiPlex> should be townie
[04:11] <OptiPlex> my mac is a 1998/1999
[04:11] <townie> it stops at the partioning
[04:11] <veloct> thoreauputic: cool :)
[04:11] <townie> but also cant complete the dhcp setup
[04:11] <darksoul> hey all how do i change my screen res>
[04:11] <OptiPlex> and my PC is a 1998 IBM and they both run ubuntu fine
[04:11] <townie> but i can move past that
[04:11] <nemik> thoreauputic: wonderful! i got it
[04:11] <ecobuntu> townie: maybe it's a corrupt cd?
[04:11] <thoreauputic> nemik: :)
[04:11] <nemik> thoreauputic: thank you again
[04:11] <NoUse> darksoul right, I'd bank more on the stick
[04:11] <basti__> !iptables
[04:11] <ubotu> basti__: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:11] <firestone> dducko, how can i get rid of the numbers on the left
[04:11] <darksoul> how do i change my screen res
[04:11] <thoreauputic> nemik: no worries :)
[04:11] <basti__> -_-'
[04:11] <townie> ecobuntu:downloaded the file from the ubuntu site
[04:11] <veloct> darksoul: kde or gnome
[04:11] <darksoul> NoUse: so one bad stick can screw the hole system over?
[04:12] <darksoul> ghn
[04:12] <dducko> download it, or be very careful highlighting
[04:12] <darksoul> gnome
[04:12] <ecobuntu> system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[04:12] <NoUse> darksoul of course
[04:12] <ecobuntu> townie: did you run md5sum before burning it
[04:12] <ecobuntu> to verify the image
[04:12] <veloct> darksoul: System->Preferences->Screen Resolution
[04:12] <darksoul> NoUse: so you were right all along
[04:12] <OptiPlex> hey darksoul: you have that whole one-resoultion thing too?
[04:12] <dducko> firestone, if you start at the first # it wont get the numbers
[04:12] <NoUse> darksoul it only took 5 hours to convence you
[04:12] <darksoul> veloct: i want to go higher, my 3d card can go way higher
[04:12] <OptiPlex> Im stuck at 1024x768 heh
[04:12] <ecobuntu> not all d/l are created equal
[04:12] <firestone> dducko, thanks
[04:12] <darksoul> NoUse: you didint tell me to take out one mem stick
[04:12] <townie> ecobuntu:dont know what md5sum is so i would say no
[04:13] <NoUse> darksoul I told you it was a mem problem
[04:13] <ecobuntu> townie: are you running windows or linux?
[04:13] <OptiPlex> at least this isnt Slax, it sticks me with 640x480 :[
[04:13] <veloct> darksoul: you'll have to configure xorg to go higher
[04:13] <Sedge> NoUse, still there?
[04:13] <darksoul> veloct: how?
[04:13] <Sedge> i got the default wiki instructions done
[04:13] <i3dmaster> what is the command that I can display the Modeline that my computer supports? I kinda forget it...
[04:13] <Sedge> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:13] <Sedge>  is the error i get now when trying to run UT2K4
[04:13] <NoUse> Sedge yeah
[04:13] <darksoul> veloct: this res is REALLy bugging me couse i have a huge LCD
[04:13] <ecobuntu> townie: if you're on linux...type md5sum filename.iso at the terminal
[04:13] <durt> i3dmaster: gtf
[04:13] <townie> from the machine i burnt the cd (this one) it runs xp
[04:13] <ecobuntu> townie: compare this with the value from the website
[04:14] <ecobuntu> ok
[04:14] <ecobuntu> hold on
[04:14] <haTem> is there a way to configure nautilus to install .deb packages on double click? i seem to recall ubuntu having this set up before, it used to open up a dialog box similar to the one that synaptic displays when you are installing a package (perhaps I was having an odd dream..? lol)
[04:14] <NoUse> Sedge your ATI drivers aren't working
[04:14] <veloct> darksoul: in terminal try xorg.conf
[04:14] <Sedge> ><
[04:14] <OptiPlex> omg, if you burned it with xp theres a chance it doesnt do ISO's properly
[04:14] <darksoul> darksoul@thewacdarksoul:~$ xorg.conf
[04:14] <darksoul> bash: xorg.conf: command not found
[04:14] <darksoul> darksoul@thewacdarksoul:~$
[04:14] <OptiPlex> i wasted like 2 CDs before I learned that
[04:14] <Sedge> glxgears works
[04:14] <townie> i wasted one cd
[04:14] <townie> and it didnt work
[04:14] <NoUse> !tell darksoul about xcfg
[04:14] <ecobuntu> townie:  download this...http://www.etree.org/cgi-bin/counter.cgi/software/md5sum.exe
[04:14] <townie> then i burned it with a different program
[04:14] <jwage> I am using Ubuntu 5.10 and basically every package that I try and request returns saying you have unmet dependencies .... E: Broken packages
[04:14] <ecobuntu> run the exe
[04:14] <darksoul> thks
[04:14] <townie> etree...solid
[04:14] <thoreauputic> darksoul: it's a file, not a command :)
[04:15] <OptiPlex> hm, that's just weird
[04:15] <ecobuntu> then use the md5sum to get your value and compare it with the value from ubuntu's website
[04:15] <thoreauputic> darksoul:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:15] <ecobuntu> http://www.etree.org/md5com.html
[04:15] <ecobuntu> that's the how-to page
[04:15] <veloct> darksoul: lol what thoreauputic said, he beat me to the punch
[04:15] <ecobuntu> post your md5sum here
[04:15] <Sedge> NoUse, so what do i do now?
[04:16] <ecobuntu> it should be the same as this
[04:16] <ecobuntu> 126751a2dc5528c2f9044d9e4ee36d6
[04:16] <dippo> ?jwage
[04:16] <Se7h> is there a problem with the v4l ?
[04:16] <ecobuntu> darksoul: what kind of computer?
[04:16] <jwage> hey
[04:16] <jwage> dippo
[04:16] <ecobuntu> darksoul: you
[04:17] <townie> ecobuntu:as soon as i try opening md5sum it closes
[04:17] <veloct> darksoul: you could edit the file manually by editing /etc/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:17] <warter> durt: what site should i get the drivers from?
[04:17] <ecobuntu> townie: hmm...strange
[04:17] <townie> exobuntu:for about a milisecond it flashes a command line box
[04:17] <warter> durt: or should i just use the CD?
[04:17] <veloct> darksoul: /etc/X11/xorg.conf sorry, too many /etc/s
[04:17] <ecobuntu> townie: probably just installing it
[04:17] <ecobuntu> open a MS DOS prompt
[04:17] <townie> got it
[04:18] <durt> warter: the cd might work fine,  or you could check out the list at the ndiswrapper site, but try the cd first
[04:18] <jwage> When I do apt-get install ssh it tells me that i have unmet dependencies..
[04:18] <jwage> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:18] <jwage>   ssh: Depends: openssh-server but it is not going to be installed
[04:18] <townie> want me to open it in the command prompt
[04:18] <jwage> This does this on a majority of packages, i cannot install anything
[04:18] <ecobuntu> you know i think this one looks better
[04:18] <i3dmaster> durt: I don't have this cmd and apt didn't find it too
[04:18] <ecobuntu> http://www.irnis.net/gloss/md5sum-windows.shtml
[04:18] <ecobuntu> check that out
[04:18] <thoreauputic> jwage: your /etc/apt/sources.list is broken
[04:18] <ecobuntu> and maybe it will work better
[04:19] <darksoul> veloct: now restart computer?
[04:19] <jwage> Ok, I have the sources.list contents copied from the ubuntu starter guide
[04:19] <ecobuntu> d/l it here http://www.irnis.net/files/acsvi.exe
[04:19] <durt> i3dmaster: get it at gtf.sourceforge.net
[04:19] <jwage> is that not the correct one?
[04:19] <warter> durt: im here on my powerbook in front of my HP desktop trying to get this to work lol the ndiswrapper site has drivers for it??
[04:19] <ecobuntu> edmonton is like way cooler than calgary
[04:19] <thoreauputic> !tell jwage about sources
[04:19] <darksoul> NoUse: after that restart computer?
[04:19] <Villa> hi
[04:19] <Homer> is there anything like google desktop for linux?
[04:19] <jwage> http://chris.quietlife.net/tmp/sources.list
[04:19] <i3dmaster> durt, ah ok. will try that then
[04:19] <Villa> is there documentation on getting thunderbird to open when I hit a mail link?
[04:19] <jwage> that is my sources file
[04:19] <NoUse> darksoul or X
[04:20] <durt> warter: you try them if the ones on the cd dont work
[04:20] <StDellis> can someone help me install GAP?
[04:20] <townie> ecobuntu:so what do you want me to do on that site
[04:20] <ecobuntu> townie: d/l the exe
[04:20] <warter> durt: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation use this to install from the CD?
[04:20] <ecobuntu> townie: install it and run the md5sum check on the .iso file
[04:20] <ecobuntu> townie: presuming you haven't deleted it yet
[04:20] <townie> havnt deleted it
[04:20] <ecobuntu> townie: have you tried to run a live cd btw?
[04:21] <townie> but the file to download there is a acsvi.exe
[04:21] <dooglus> I want to connect to VNC on my PC, but it's running dual-head.  Can I restart it remotely?
[04:21] <thoreauputic> jwage: are you running hoary or breezy?
[04:21] <BugZapper> what is a good nntp server?
[04:21] <townie> not md5sum
[04:21] <townie> and nope
[04:21] <ecobuntu> that's the same thing
[04:21] <thoreauputic> jwage: what does   cat /etc/issue  say ?
[04:21] <ecobuntu> it's the advance checksum verifier
[04:21] <ecobuntu> GO WHALERS!
[04:22] <darksoul> NoUse: that didint help
[04:22] <darksoul> NoUse: any ideas?
[04:22] <ecobuntu> hartford in da hiznouse
[04:22] <BugZapper> i am falling asllep
[04:22] <townie> ecobuntu:ok i've got that and opened
[04:22] <warter> durt: is that correct?
[04:22] <darksoul> NoUse: whats the command to restart X server
[04:22] <ecobuntu> townie: ok can you navigate to your file?
[04:22] <jwage> Breezy Badger
[04:22] <durt> warter: yup - but after you stick the card in run "sudo rmmod acx_pci" because that module gets in the way and add it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[04:22] <NoUse> darksoul sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:23] <thoreauputic> darksoul: jsut do a ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:23] <townie> ecobuntu:it only shows folders not files
[04:23] <ecobuntu> townie: you can't get to the file?
[04:23] <OptiPlex> nc in d4 house heh
[04:23] <jwage> ok
[04:23] <thoreauputic> jwage: your sources are all hoary
[04:23] <jwage> Ya
[04:24] <townie> ecobuntu:its on the desktop and i've navigated to the desktop, but it only shows the folders and no files
[04:24] <jwage> I changed them to what you sent me in a pvt message
[04:24] <Kratos> Ok, im back...
[04:24] <thoreauputic> jwage: substitute breezy, then update
[04:24] <Kratos> what is the best freeware Win Emulator?
[04:24] <jwage> Cool..thanks
[04:24] <ecobuntu> townie: what a piece of junk...well uninstall it
[04:24] <jwage> thanks
[04:24] <mike1> yo
[04:24] <ecobuntu> townie: how about this http://www.md5summer.org/
[04:24] <durt> kratos: qemu i guess, but its sslloww
[04:24] <warter> durt: ok i typed the first string and was prompted for my pass then after that it sent me back to the basic string
[04:25] <nemik> how can i make the gnome file explorer show me hidden files such as .playlist? or .htaccess?
[04:25] <nemik> nevermine
[04:25] <ookami> i was testing my 5.1 setup with the command: " speaker-test -c6 -D plug:surround51
[04:25] <ookami> " and i found a few speakers dont work.  They are all plugged into the right spot... What could i try next?
[04:25] <ecobuntu> townie: that one looks like it should DEFINITELY work
[04:25] <thoreauputic> nemik: hit ctrl-h
[04:25] <Kratos> I need to run the Windows XP setup prog, and need an easy emulator
[04:25] <immortial> ecobuntu thanks for link thats what i was looking for :)
[04:25] <ecobuntu> though they claim the etree one should work to
[04:25] <nemik> or view->show hidden files!
[04:25] <UbuntuUser> ok guys
[04:25] <nemik> thoreauputic: thanks again bro!
[04:26] <durt> warter: have you ever compiled anything before?
[04:26] <UbuntuUser> im launching limewire from the terminal
[04:26] <ecobuntu> me? what link
[04:26] <darksoul> NoUse: NEVER DO THAT TO ME AGAIN, I ALMOST FORGOT THE COMMAND TO START GDM
[04:26] <JonasNZ> whats the story with getting the ltmodem drivers in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-386
[04:26] <UbuntuUser> but whenever i close the terminal it closes too
[04:26] <thoreauputic> nemik: :)
[04:26] <warter> durt: no sir
[04:26] <immortial> ecobuntu:<ecobuntu> townie: how about this http://www.md5summer.org/
[04:26] <NoUse> darksoul don't yell
[04:26] <ecobuntu> oh ok
[04:26] <immortial> tnanx
[04:26] <NoUse> darksoul if you don't want me to help thats fine
[04:26] <dabaR_> !shout
[04:26] <ubotu> shout is, like, WE CAN READ LOWER CASE! IF SOMEONE KNOWS THEY WILL ANSWER!
[04:26] <UbuntuUser> how can i create an icon in the applications menu to always start limewire not with ./runLime.sh
[04:26] <darksoul> NoUse: anyway, it still didint work, any ideas?
[04:26] <darksoul> NoUse: no i just almost got trapped outta my system.. lol
[04:27] <NoUse> !tell darksoul about fixres
[04:27] <ecobuntu> townie: any luck?
[04:27] <varsendagger> hey what would be a good channel for the sharp zarus pda?
[04:27] <thoreauputic> UbuntuUser: use the menu editor in system tools
[04:27] <townie> ecobuntu:im starting to think its just me, again i only see folders
[04:27] <mike1> Anyone help.  Dell Latitude P3 -128Mb ram,  brezzy SLOW
[04:27] <ecobuntu> ok
[04:27] <ecobuntu> i think it might be you :)
[04:27] <darksoul> NoUse: thanks =)
[04:27] <Ron_o> mikel..
[04:27] <Xenguy> mike1: try xfce4
[04:27] <Ron_o> you need to install xfce4 like I just did.
[04:27] <mike1> I'm using xfce now no change
[04:27] <UbuntuUser> thoreauputic i dont have anything called menu editor in system tools
[04:27] <durt> warter: ok - perhaps instead of compiling it you can just "sudo apt-get install ndis-utils" and then start with step: ndiswrapper -i lalala.inf
[04:27] <ecobuntu> what if you open the root file folder?
[04:28] <ecobuntu> is this what you see http://www.md5summer.org/images/main.jpg
[04:28] <townie> ecobuntu: yeah i think its definatly me, im thinking maybe time to just get drunk and bring it over to bowdoin tomorrow
[04:28] <Xenguy> mike1: OOo is still unusable for me, but it's better than trying to run GNOME
[04:28] <Ron_o> you really need more RAM.
[04:28] <thoreauputic> UbuntuUser: are you running breezy or hoary?
[04:28] <maduyb> I have a question about patching the kernel, would anyone be albe to help?
[04:28] <Ron_o> I'm reading a guide now that can help you...
[04:28] <UbuntuUser> thoreauputic breezy
[04:28] <dooglus> maduyb: just ask the question
[04:28] <ecobuntu> i'm sorry someone there could fix it
[04:28] <Ron_o> http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html
[04:28] <townie> ecobuntu:so on the root folder do i want to create sums or verify sums
[04:28] <maduyb> k
[04:28] <Ron_o> go there..
[04:28] <thoreauputic> UbuntuUser: well it should be there - are you running gnome?
[04:28] <ecobuntu> verify sums
[04:28] <mike1> My Hoary install was fine (acceptable speeb for this box) breezy a dog
[04:28] <UbuntuUser> theorauputic yea gnome
[04:28] <darksoul> NoUse: hmmm ill just reinstall lol
[04:28] <Ron_o> xfce actually is way better than gnome and kde..
[04:28] <ecobuntu> but you want to choose your file
[04:29] <ecobuntu> i like xfce
[04:29] <ookami> what is alsa and esd ?
[04:29] <ecobuntu> i like gnome more though
[04:29] <thoreauputic> UbuntuUser: odd - well install smeg then
[04:29] <ecobuntu> kde...i don't really like too much
[04:29] <varsendagger> you can also run limewire & in the CLI to get another command prompt
[04:29] <Sedge> NoUse, got it working! :)
[04:29] <ecobuntu> it's nice though
[04:29] <Ron_o> ookami, also is sound management.
[04:29] <warter> durt: unable to lock admin dir
[04:29] <townie> ecobuntu:ok i've found the problem with the checksums, they check for only md5 files, the file i downloaded to install ubunu is an .iso file
[04:29] <thoreauputic> UbuntuUser:  Simple menu editor for gnome
[04:29] <UbuntuUser> apt-get install smeg?
[04:29] <OptiPlex> reggae+irc=an 1337 experience
[04:29] <ecobuntu> no you can still check the md5sum of a .iso file
[04:30] <ookami> Thanks Ron_0
[04:30] <OptiPlex> townie: get deepburner for win, burn with that proggie
[04:30] <thoreauputic> UbuntuUser: yep (with a sudo)
[04:30] <ecobuntu> maybe you want to click create sums
[04:30] <ookami> Thanks Ron_o
[04:30] <ecobuntu> try that on the .iso file
[04:30] <OptiPlex> its like 5MB
[04:30] <UbuntuUser> ok
[04:30] <townie> ok im trying it
[04:30] <dooglus> townie: look here for the .md5 values: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/MD5SUMS
[04:30] <UbuntuUser> thanks ill try that
[04:30] <Ron_o> and esd is how sound is dealt with.... sorry for such simple explanatinos. I don't know the correct syntax.
[04:30] <ecobuntu> you should get a value
[04:30] <maduyb> I've applied all of the patches for ArchCK, no problems, However, the site tells me to also patch for the ipw2100 wifi card. I found the file for that and did cat file | patch but it's telling me that Hunk #1 failed, I'm not sure where to go from here
[04:30] <immortial> have to go now have a very nice day to everyone.....
[04:30] <Sedge> anyone who can recommend a goot ftp program for ubuntu?
[04:30] <durt> warter: oops - i meant "ndiswrapper-utils"
[04:30] <ecobuntu> 126751a2dc5528c2f9044d9e4ee36d6
[04:30] <townie> hahaha
[04:30] <ecobuntu> is what you should see
[04:30] <townie> ohhhh man
[04:30] <townie> nope
[04:30] <townie> it froze
[04:30] <sn0wman> Sedge, gftp
[04:30] <ecobuntu> crap
[04:30] <ecobuntu> sounds like bad luck
[04:31] <mike1> has anyone tried damn small Linux?
[04:31] <ookami> Ron_o, no thats perfect. i had no idea what either were about. I just kept seeing them mentioned in documents im reading.
[04:31] <sn0wman> Sedge, if you don't want to use nautilus
[04:31] <thoreauputic> mike1: sure
[04:31] <ecobuntu> maybe you should jsut have a couple and bring it to bowdoin
[04:31] <ecobuntu> have you tried the livecd?
[04:31] <thoreauputic> mike1: nice little distro :)
[04:31] <ecobuntu> to make sure it works on your computer
[04:31] <Ron_o> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture - ALSA
[04:31] <mike1> I installed it on a old Toshiba P1
[04:31] <Sedge> thx sn0wman
[04:31] <sn0wman> np
[04:32] <townie> yeah, well that and they said they'll just give me an old piece to put ubuntu on
[04:32] <OptiPlex> DSL linux ownz on an older box I bet
[04:32] <OptiPlex> :] 
[04:32] <mike1> DamnSmallLinux has a great Ndiswrapper / Prism2/ Util
[04:32] <OptiPlex> ubuntu ownz on a mac though, so Im using that heh
[04:32] <cafuego> DSL is not #Ubuntu. Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:32] <varsendagger> cna anyone reccomend a good database frontend for ubuntu   --- somehting that i can use to creat and modify databases
[04:32] <townie> i mean really its all so i can just work at network operations at bowdoin
[04:32] <ecobuntu> varsendagger: what about open office
[04:33] <Sedge> what's a quick way to check what my MAC address is?
[04:33] <ecobuntu> oh i see
[04:33] <OptiPlex> mysql maybe? dunno about databases
[04:33] <cafuego> Sedge: 'ifconfig'
[04:33] <thoreauputic> Sedge: ifconfig
[04:33] <OptiPlex> Sedge: ifconfig should have it
[04:33] <OptiPlex> lol
[04:33] <JonasNZ> the package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-386 says something about winmodem / ltmodem? where can i get the actual info on the winmodem package?
[04:33] <mike1> I was saying a util like this can be a good add on for Ubuntu laptop users trying to get online after install
[04:33] <ecobuntu> ubuntu is pretty easy to install...sounds like you've got some wierd hardware issues or the cd wasn't d/l properly (i.e. the site you d/l it from f-ed up
[04:33] <Sedge> thx
[04:33] <ubuntu_> hey all, I have an installation problem
[04:33] <floam> how long does is usually take between the time source is uploaded and packages are built and propagated?
[04:34] <ecobuntu> *runs after Optiplex
[04:34] <Sedge> i'm slowly remembering all this stuff (been 3 years since i touched linux)
[04:34] <Sedge> :P
[04:34] <floam> I'm still not seeing kernel 2.6.15 when I apt-get update on dapper.
[04:34] <Sedge> dumped windows last night, got sick of it
[04:34] <ecobuntu> *
[04:34] <Sedge> no dual boot
[04:34] <OptiPlex> to the kitchen :] 
[04:34] <Sedge> no nothing :P
[04:34] <ubuntu_> the first time I tried to install this, I used a cd that was damaged
[04:34] <ecobuntu> ubuntu_: how far along did you get?
[04:34] <dducko> Sedge, try going cold turkey from winxp to ubuntu for the first time in linux
[04:34] <ubuntu_> and now, I can't get grub to install correctly ( it gives "error 18" )
[04:35] <Sedge> dducko, that's pretty much what i've done
[04:35] <ecobuntu> winxp sucks
[04:35] <ClayG> How can I change the default size of the terminal?
[04:35] <OptiPlex> Sedge: bravo, Im not even using a PC anymore. ubuntu/ppc does everything I need including printing/digital camera/internet/etc.
[04:35] <Sedge> except i've had a bit of linux experience
[04:35] <Sedge> but that was 3 years ago
[04:35] <Sedge> and it was just playing
[04:35] <ecobuntu> i only use winxp for my webcam w/ aim
[04:35] <varsendagger> open office is good but too memory intensive
[04:35] <OptiPlex> ecobuntu: you must die, you IM freaks heh
[04:35] <Sedge> i really dig openoffice
[04:35] <OptiPlex> heh, openoffice makes me feel 1337. I can make PDFs Muahahahah!
[04:35] <ecobuntu> OptiPlex: i have to im with my girlfriend. we're at different universities and keeps the bill down
[04:36] <Sedge> actually did a presentation on a few OS packages in school today, did up the presentation in impress just for added effect
[04:36] <varsendagger> Sedge, i do too but it keeps crashing on base
[04:36] <warter> can anyone help with this wireless card im trying to ndiswrapper and its giving me a hassle
[04:36] <Sedge> hmmm
[04:36] <ubuntu_> ecobuntu: the first time I tried, I failed while installing the software at the end. I then reformatted, but the second time around the boot loader couldnt install
[04:36] <Sedge> what's it crash on specifically?
[04:36] <OptiPlex> heh ecobuntu: I guess that buys your life :] 
[04:36] <ecobuntu> hmm
[04:36] <ecobuntu> townie: did you read that
[04:36] <townie> no
[04:36] <OptiPlex> i know too many IM freaks
[04:36] <varsendagger> opening up a database that i created with ooo
[04:36] <townie> my computer just almost shit the bed
[04:37] <warter> anyone??
[04:37] <ecobuntu> OptiPlex: it's a pain in the ass.  We've been together 3.5 years and now at different grad schools
[04:37] <SCMark> is there any way to increase the sensitivity of my mouse wheel?
[04:37] <OptiPlex> Im ignoring you all :] 
[04:37] <townie> it barely made it
[04:37] <winston> im looking to install ardour, and i see that it is not available in the ubuntu repositories, is there a sources.list i can get that will permit me to install ardour?
[04:37] <ecobuntu> townie: he was able to full install
[04:37] <ecobuntu> townie: i think you should d/l a new .iso
[04:37] <thoreauputic> bah Terminal Server Client insists on presenting informational messages as if they were errors - stupid!
[04:37] <ecobuntu> irssi-text rocks!
[04:37] <OptiPlex> :[ brb irl
[04:38] <misfit_toy> winston, you have all the  hardware you need for that?
[04:38] <townie> ecobuntu: yeah thats what im going to do, or get the right disc to begin with, they gave me the powerpc disc so thats the reason i had to download it in the first place
[04:38] <ubuntu_> does anyone know what "Grub Error 18" is?
[04:38] <basti__> !chmod
[04:38] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, chmod is a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.
[04:38] <OptiPlex> ppc ownz *downloads*
[04:38] <thoreauputic> !info ardour-gtk
[04:38] <ubotu> ardour-gtk: (digital audio workstation (graphical gtk interface)), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.9beta29-5ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2113 kB, Installed size: 6308 kB
[04:38] <winston> misfit_toy i didnt know this prog required any specific hardware!^?
[04:38] <Sedge> ok, now i need a new thing to get working properly :P
[04:38] <basti__> mon chmod is impossible to understand...
[04:38] <Sedge> my mx500 mouse
[04:38] <basti__> man*
[04:38] <Sedge> any suggestions
[04:38] <misfit_toy> winston, you are talking about the music studio software right?
[04:38] <_jason> basti__, what is so impossible?
[04:39] <thoreauputic> winston: see ubotu above
[04:39] <dooglus> basti__: it isn't.  what sentence is giving you trouble understanding?
[04:39] <Sedge> chmod is easy to understand, if you understand counting in binary
[04:39] <winston> misfit_toy yes thats the one
[04:39] <winston> so i apt-get install ardour-gtk?
[04:39] <Sedge> basti__, do you understand binary and octal?
[04:40] <dooglus> Sedge: you don't even need that.  you can use letters instead of numbers (and it's octal by the way, not binary)
[04:40] <thoreauputic> winston: do an apt-cache search ardour
[04:40] <thoreauputic> winston: there are several packages
[04:40] <Sedge> well it's both dooglus
[04:40] <Sedge> :)
[04:40] <Sedge> the number is an octal number
[04:40] <dooglus> Sedge: how is binary useful?
[04:40] <Sedge> think about it
[04:40] <Sedge> 3 bits for owner
[04:40] <Sedge> 3 bits for group
[04:41] <thoreauputic> dooglus: the octal permissions are based on the binary ones
[04:41] <basti__> hmm. maybe if Iget the logic behind it Iwill understand..
[04:41] <Sedge> if the permisssions for owner are rwx, that's essentially 111 in binary
[04:41] <Sedge> 1 in the 4's position, 1 in the 2's and 1 in the 1's
[04:41] <Sedge> totals to 7
[04:41] <Sedge> 7 = rwx
[04:41] <Sedge> if you jsut wanted -w-
[04:42] <Sedge> it'd be 2
[04:42] <Sedge> 010
[04:42] <Sedge> get it?
[04:42] <basti__> but if I want r--r--r--
[04:42] <thoreauputic> BasL: 444
[04:42] <Sedge> that's 444
[04:42] <basti__> ah
[04:42] <basti__> so max is 777
[04:42] <Sedge> yeah
[04:42] <dooglus> basti__: that's "r--" three times.  "r--" is 100 binary, or 4 octal
[04:43] <Sedge> 7 in octal = 111 in binary
[04:43] <thoreauputic> basti__: yes - 1 execute  2 write 4 read
[04:43] <basti__> ah :> well then. then it got a bit easier =)
[04:43] <basti__> thanks alot guys
[04:43] <Sedge> so i've got that figured out, can someone explain the sticky bit to me?
[04:43] <dooglus> basti__: max is 7777, 'cos there are sticky, setuid and setgid bits too
[04:43] <pepsi> whats a good program to help me locate my unprotected wireless networks?
[04:43] <basti__> ah, well no need to get complicated at this stage ;)
[04:43] <Sedge> hehe
[04:43] <dooglus> Sedge: that's where "man chmod" can't help much :)  the man page is wrong.
[04:44] <Sedge> =)
[04:44] <durt> pepsi: ifconfig in a terminal
[04:44] <pepsi> hard to do while driving
[04:44] <Sedge> so what's the stickybit for?
[04:44] <durt> or iwlist wlan0 scan
[04:44] <pepsi> that also works, but also hard while driving
[04:44] <heinzanova> hey guys I am formatting a third drive in my computer, and I am gonna do it in FAT32 so both my operating systems can see it, I am in the format menu in Ubun here and for access path what do I want that set to ??? /mnt or /home ??? this is new to me.
[04:44] <basti__> pepsi,  or u can use kismet
[04:44] <warter> hey durt
[04:44] <durt> any luck warter?
[04:44] <SCMark> so... anyone know how to change the mouse scroll wheel sensistivity?
[04:44] <dooglus> Sedge: the sticky bit isn't used for files (I don't think).  on a directory it makes it so that users can't delete each other's files.  it's set on /tmp for instance.  it's the "t" you see when you ls -ld /tmp
[04:45] <Sedge> ah
[04:45] <durt> are you wardriving now pepsi? :0
[04:45] <NoUse> heinzanova it's up to you, the standard is /media/
[04:45] <pepsi> i have no internet :(
[04:45] <warter> durt: ln -s /usr/src/linux-<kernel-version> /lib/modules/VERSION/build
[04:45] <Sedge> what was the order of the positions again (in the octal model?) owner, user, group?
[04:45] <dooglus> rwx
[04:45] <Cole> heinzanova: you can pretty much make it almost anything you want.. but i woudl recommend against /home or /mnt  as you already should have stuff in your main harddrive in those folders
[04:45] <warter> durt: whats the kernel version?
[04:45] <dooglus> ugo
[04:46] <nemik> how can i lock the screen from the command line?
[04:46] <pepsi> i rented a room in an apartment and the lady said she had internet.. but she flipped out when i networked the computers
[04:46] <heinzanova> NoUse, media isn't a listed option
[04:46] <pepsi> said i was controlling her computer
[04:46] <Sedge> lol
[04:46] <heinzanova> can I just type it in as media?
[04:46] <NoUse> heinzanova not sure, /mnt will work too
[04:46] <nemik> haha, pepsi that sucls
[04:46] <Cole> heinzanova: /media
[04:46] <durt> warter: what are you doing?
[04:46] <Sedge> what should i get to play divx files on ubuntu?
[04:46] <ithiel> ubotu tell Sedge about restricted formats
[04:46] <nemik> sedge, i like xine
[04:46] <Cole> but you need to create the directoroy /media
[04:46] <thoreauputic> !tell Sedge about reatricted
[04:46] <dooglus> Sedge: codecs
[04:47] <NoUse> Sedge mplayer and w32codecs
[04:47] <nemik> yea and codes, :D
[04:47] <Se7h> is there any problem with the v4l ?
[04:47] <NoUse> !tell Sedge about w32codecs
[04:47] <Sedge> yeah i visited that page already
[04:47] <iamsobored00566> whenever somone ims me on gaim my music slows down
[04:47] <heinzanova> did I do something wrong, it just supposively formatted my 300GB drive in like 2 seconds !?!?!!
[04:47] <iamsobored00566> does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:47] <Sedge> totem doesn't play them right?
[04:47] <ithiel> Sedge, win32 codecs will allow you to play divx files
[04:47] <durt> warter: skip all that with apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils, and start at the installing windows driver part
[04:47] <Sedge> hmm, i got those the other day
[04:47] <ithiel> Sedge, it should, run the command: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[04:47] <dooglus> heinzanova: if you didn't want it formatted, then yes.
[04:47] <OptiPlex> divx=pr0n :[
[04:47] <nemik> so is there a way to do the lock screen thing from command line? to put it in a bash script?
[04:47] <iamsobored00566> hello?
[04:47] <iamsobored00566> aw
[04:48] <thoreauputic> Sedge: read the restricted formats wiki, and I suggest you install totem-xine
[04:48] <heinzanova> dooglus I wanted it formatted, but it seemed like it just did it to fast...
[04:48] <Sedge> kk
[04:48] <ithiel> OptiPlex, actually I have a mac bashing video (switch parody) that is in DivX...not pr0n
[04:48] <dooglus> heinzanova: what command did you use
[04:48] <dooglus> ?
[04:48] <ithiel> Sedge, if that doesn't work, install mplayer, and use it to play the files
[04:48] <thoreauputic> Sedge: totem-gstreamer (the default) has a few issues still
[04:48] <Cole> heinzanova: its a quick format kinda like format /q in dos..
[04:48] <Sedge> ah, ok
[04:48] <heinzanova> dooglus, I am so sorry, I hate to say it, but I used the GUI under system _> admin _> disks
[04:48] <ithiel> thoreauputic, I had him try totem-xine
[04:48] <Sedge> trying totem-xine atm
[04:48] <iamsobored00566> aww...no one wants to help me
[04:48] <nemik> iamsobored00566: see what your RAM and processor is like, could be taking a lot of resources. what do you play your music in?
[04:49] <dooglus> heinzanova: oh, ok :)  I don't know what that does.
[04:49] <iamsobored00566> rhythmbox
[04:49] <iamsobored00566> it was fine on hoary
[04:49] <thoreauputic> ithiel: yes sorry I probably missed that :)
[04:49] <iamsobored00566> i just upgraded to breezy yesterday
[04:49] <iamsobored00566> and its really annoying me
[04:49] <heinzanova> cole how do I do a real format on it? to make sure it is good to go for both OS's since windows won't make a fat32 bigger than 30 GB
[04:49] <wegstar> how do I disable acpi checking on bootup?
[04:49] <pawan> nemik: you could assign a shortcut to it. or make it an xscreensaver --whatever-the-screen-lock-option-is
[04:49] <ithiel> thoreauputic, its cool, can't track all conversations with this much crosstalk
[04:49] <Cole> heinzanova: what versions of windows?
[04:49] <thoreauputic> iamsobored00566: be specific
[04:49] <Sedge> and what's a good app to convert all my garbage wma's to mp3? i have a crapload of music in wma format unfortunately
[04:49] <heinzanova> cole XP
[04:49] <iamsobored00566> what do you mean
[04:50] <heinzanova> cole i would have to use NTFS to make a big partition
[04:50] <iamsobored00566> whenever there is a sound coming from gaim
[04:50] <iamsobored00566> my music sorta stutters
[04:50] <dooglus> nemik: try this:  drag the lock icon you a panel, then right-click the lock on the panel and look at its preferences to see what it runs
[04:50] <heinzanova> cole and I dont want to because I want both to be able to view data
[04:50] <iamsobored00566> i think the sound is conflicting with each other
[04:50] <heinzanova> cole since this is gonna be a music drive
[04:50] <iamsobored00566> im such a noob...
[04:50] <Cole> heinzanova: windows shoudl see it..
[04:50] <heinzanova> cole, just with that quick format?
[04:50] <Sedge> is there a linux based app that can convert wma to mp3?
[04:50] <NoUse> heinzanova what program are you using to format the drive?
[04:50] <heinzanova> cole and safely write to it?
[04:50] <pawan> nemik: xscreensaver-command -lock
[04:50] <nemik> pawan and dooglus, both great ideas. thanks
[04:50] <thoreauputic> iamsobored00566: please don't use your enter key as punctuation
[04:51] <nemik> pawan excellent, that is great
[04:51] <heinzanova> NoUse disk manager gui under system admin disks
[04:51] <Cole> heinzanova: yeah it sents the file allocation table up it just don't verify every sector on the drive..
[04:51] <JonasNZ> the information here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Conexant is pretty useless seeing the link is dead, can anyone point me in the right direction? and yes i have googled
[04:51] <NoUse> heinzanova yeah you should be fine
[04:51] <Cole> heinzanova: the 30gb limit in windows for fat32 is a superficial one
[04:51] <shorty114> when i load up synaptic, it tells me that my package info is out of date, and after it updates, i get this error:
[04:51] <durt> sedge: lame
[04:51] <shorty114> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[04:51] <heinzanova> cole, sounds good to me, now time to move all 150GB off my NTFS drive over
[04:51] <tomas__> finally breezy with E17!
[04:51] <NoUse> !tell shorty114 about gpgerr
[04:51] <iamsobored00566> sorry
[04:52] <Cole> heinzanova: before you do that.. i'd COPY about 5gb and then go back and forth to see if you can access without any problems
[04:52] <shorty114> NoUse, thanks
[04:52] <heinzanova> cole, good call
[04:52] <Sedge> ah, thanks durt, i just found another app called audacity
[04:52] <Sedge> gonna try it out
[04:52] <nemik> pawan: having a lot of trouble getting up, i want to make a small crontab to play loud music in the morning to wake me up, but for me not to be able to turn it off until i solve a simple math problem. does something like this exist already?
[04:52] <liquidboy> how do i install nvu on 5.04 - which backport repository do i enable?
[04:52] <Hobbsee> !info nvu
[04:52] <ubotu> nvu: (Complete Web Authoring System), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8349 kB, Installed size: 26468 kB
[04:52] <heinzanova> cole, don't suppose you have any wealth of knowledge into wireless nics in this here linux?
[04:52] <stfn> !tell stfn about gpgerr
[04:53] <durt> sedge: i think thats more for audio editing
[04:53] <thoreauputic> !info nvu hoary
[04:53] <Sedge> durt: ah, ok :P
[04:53] <liquidboy> !info nvu hoary
[04:53] <pc22> Seveas, hi
[04:53] <Cole> heinzanova: wireless is kinda hit or miss some of the time.. my laptop (with wireless) is out of commition due to a hard drive failure  the other day.. gotta wait on new hard drive.. so i can't really even pretend to help
[04:53] <thoreauputic> hmm hoary doesn't have nvu
[04:53] <pepsi> basti__, kismet looks perfect
[04:53] <pepsi> it can play sounds on network events and such :D
[04:54] <Cole> heinzanova: do you know if your wireless card has drivers?/is supported?
[04:54] <pawan> nemik: that's amusing.
[04:54] <heinzanova> My big problem with my wireless card (linksys WMP54G), installs fine using ndiswrapper and then when I run modprobe no problems
[04:54] <pc22> Seveas, im trying to download from your repository but it turned error
[04:54] <Sedge> thoreauputic, is there an html/css editor other than nvu that's decent?
[04:54] <Xenguy> I'm trying to find out if this oldish laptop has a soundcard.  I've tried 'lspci |grep audio' but no output is returned.  Is there a simple way to find out if this laptop has some kind of soundcard?
[04:54] <heinzanova> cole, it doesnt show up in the network as a configurable item
[04:54] <winston> cant get jack and ardour to work together
[04:55] <nemik> pawan: yes sounds like it but i am too often late for classes. would like to solve this :D
[04:55] <thoreauputic> Sedge: well, mozilla composer is very similar
[04:55] <pc22> Seveas, W: Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/breezy-extras/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[04:55] <heinzanova> cole, then I tried the visual config program for ubuntu, and with no problem it installed and showed up as hardware there.
[04:55] <mrhyd3> anyone help on a problem?  if I type "apt-get install clamav" it says it doesn't know anything about the package
[04:55] <pawan> nemik : what sort of maths problem? arithmetic I guess.
[04:55] <durt> heinzenova: does ifup wlan0 do anything?
[04:55] <ok_newbie> can anyone recommend a good easy backup utility?
[04:55] <Sedge> ah, i was into developing using dreamweaver when i used windows for a while, but found i was only really using codeview anyways... :P
[04:56] <Sedge> i made the transition to css/xhtml about a year ago, haven't looked back since
[04:56] <Xenguy> ok_newbie: rsnapshot is one (of many)
[04:56] <Hobbsee> mrhyd3: check that you have universe repositories enabled
[04:56] <pawan> nemik : if you are up to it, do it in a script like bash, or perl.
[04:56] <Sedge> don't need wysiwyg for that :P
[04:56] <dooglus> nemik: did either idea work for you?  I just looked and it seems like neither is any good...
[04:56] <ok_newbie> thanx
[04:56] <darksoul> NoUse: it wont work
[04:56] <nemik> pawan: yes something very simple just to get my brain working. addition or multiplication of random whole 1digit numbers
[04:56] <mrhyd3> Hobbsee, where is that?
[04:56] <darksoul> NoUse: whats your res?
[04:56] <heinzanova> cole, but then when I follwed the step saying go into network, and it does not show up
[04:56] <Cole> [21:55]  durt: heinzenova: does ifup wlan0 do anything?
[04:56] <Hobbsee> !tell mrhyd3 about repos
[04:56] <Xenguy> ok_newbie: further details -> apt-cache search backup |grep back
[04:56] <Sedge> what's the best utility for partitioning and formatting disks in ubuntu?
[04:57] <heinzanova> cole it gurgles
[04:57] <darksoul> can anyone help me out?
[04:57] <Hobbsee> Sedge: gparted, or the install cd
[04:57] <darksoul> i need my res to be right
[04:57] <pepsi> my linksys wireless card shows up as ath0
[04:57] <JonasNZ> whats better, nvidia or nvidia-glx
[04:57] <darksoul> but this thing wont change no matter what
[04:57] <darksoul> !ati
[04:57] <ubotu> ati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[04:57] <Xenguy> Sedge: cfdisk works (depends on what you want to do really)
[04:57] <darksoul> !ati
[04:57] <Sedge> cool, i was initially going to install with raid 0 (i have 2x160gb SATA drives) but couldn't figure it out
[04:57] <heinzanova> durt, it throws error saying for wireless request "set encode" (8B2A) : SET Failed on device wlan0 ; no such device
[04:57] <Sedge> so i installed on just 1 of the drives
[04:57] <azuron> hi, a question on verifying the new swap file, i just enabled a swap file on the disk, but i cannot verify the new sawp by cat /procs/swaps
[04:57] <winston> trying to get jack and ardour to talk but i can only find a tutorial for mandrake
[04:57] <Sedge> now i want to format the 2nd drive :P
[04:57] <nemik> pawan: i am good with php, and did some mild perl, perhaps it is worth a shot.
[04:57] <durt> heinzanova: then try ifup ath0
[04:58] <pepsi> my laptop has some broadcom card instaled, but  my computer crashes often when i use it with ndiswrapper
[04:58] <mrhyd3> Thanks Hobbsee
[04:58] <Sedge> i just want to format my second drive for storage of stuff
[04:58] <Sedge> movies, music etc...
[04:58] <Hobbsee> mrhyd3: no problems
[04:58] <pawan> nemik : it's not hard building something like that. General guideline: mpg123 thesong.mp3; run the script; if answer is right killall mpg123
[04:58] <heinzanova> durt, Ignoring unknown interface ath0=ath0
[04:58] <dr_willis> Sedge,  just for linux? or windows and linux?
[04:58] <Sedge> linux only
[04:58] <darksoul> my res wont change no matter what i do, some help?
[04:58] <Sedge> no more windows!
[04:58] <Sedge> :P
[04:58] <mrhyd3> Hobbsee, Im used to Gentoo so this apt-get is new to me
[04:58] <pepsi> went to the computer store, brought a bunch of wireless cards to their "research" computer till i found a card that people said worked with loonax
[04:58] <dr_willis> Sedge,  so whats stopping you? :P fdisk, mkfs, and mount the puppy!
[04:58] <Sedge> well, i ftp stuff to my xbox.... :P
[04:59] <nemik> pawan: just one more noob question, i have a command to start my xmms playlist, but the screen does not lock at that time, it only locks AFTER i close the xmms window. how do i solve this?
[04:59] <Hobbsee> !tell mrhyd3 about apt-get
[04:59] <Sedge> dr_willis, i'm not familira with the utils for doing it in linux ;)
[04:59] <Hobbsee> might help
[04:59] <darksoul> my res will not change no matter what i do, some freekin help?
[04:59] <Sedge> familiar*
[04:59] <liquidboy> what are the 5.04 backports that i should enable?
[04:59] <dr_willis> Sedge,  theres a few Linux-hard drive setup howtos out. its rather trivial. :P
[04:59] <Hobbsee> !tell liquidboy about backports
[04:59] <shorty114> is there a generic ATi driver? such as for an ATi Rage M2?
[04:59] <shorty114> (old, i know...)
[04:59] <pawan> nemik: background it. Look up what & does in a shell context.
[04:59] <nemik> pawan: yes that is true, it can even be done in shell i think though propably easier for me in php.
[04:59] <dr_willis> Sedge,  fdisk, and make the partitions,, then mkfs.ext3 on the partitions, then edit the fstab to mount them where you want.
[04:59] <OptiPlex> if I can get audacity to work right on x86, I wont need windoze anymore either :] 
[04:59] <OptiPlex> my HDD crashed on that box, so Im stuck on this one heh
[04:59] <Sedge> hehe, well if it's as trivial as a windows based format i shouldn't have trouble ;P
[04:59] <durt> heinzanova: sounds like you might not have the drivers installed right - not sure
[05:00] <paulproteus> shorty114: For 3d acceleration, or just for regular 2D?
[05:00] <shorty114> 3d
[05:00] <kratos> How do I get totem to play .mpg files?
[05:00] <ithiel> paulproteus, good question.
[05:00] <darksoul> my res will not change no matter what i do, some help please?
[05:00] <shorty114> preferably, but 2d is fine
[05:00] <winston> help getting ardour to work
[05:00] <haTem> According to the wiki, the vmware install breaks sudo if you are upgrading from hoary to breezy. However, I'm on a fresh breezy install, and upon finishing the vmware-install.pl script, my sudo stops working. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:00] <paulproteus> !tell darksoul about resolution
[05:00] <ithiel> paulproteus, does fglrx support RAGE chipsets?
[05:00] <darksoul> that didint help
[05:00] <paulproteus> ithiel: I don't think so.
[05:00] <dr_willis> Sedge,  ubuntu/gnome may have some drive setup tools..  - never noticed  :P
[05:00] <darksoul> paulproteus: i did that before, it didint help
[05:00] <paulproteus> There's an older driver...
[05:00] <Sedge> would my second harddisk be located at /dev/hdb?
[05:00] <ithiel> paulproteus, radeon only isn't it? 9000+
[05:00] <heinzanova> durt, any idea on what version I should be shooting for with this Linksys WMP54G ?
[05:00] <kratos> How can I get totem to play .mpg files?
[05:00] <dr_willis> Sedge,  sepends on what port its connected to.
[05:00] <nemik> pawan: is there a way in a shell to do 2 simultaneous actions at once, without waiting for the previous line to finish?
[05:00] <darksoul> paulproteus: any ideas?
[05:00] <Sedge> secondary SATA port
[05:00] <pawan> darksoul: res problems are generally due to x.org drivers , especially with laptops. Wait for the next release is probably the only real solution for that.
[05:01] <OptiPlex> kratos: there's a gstreamer plugin for that
[05:01] <paulproteus> ithiel: dri.sourceforge.net, iirc
[05:01] <dr_willis> Sedge,  'fdisk -l ' will show it
[05:01] <Sedge> SATA port 1
[05:01] <Hobbsee> nemik: open another shell in the same window :P
[05:01] <OptiPlex> check synaptic for 'gstreamer' and look through the plugins for it :D
[05:01] <dr_willis> Sedge,  a SATA drive will be a sd##
[05:01] <ithiel> paulproteus, meh, isn't dri enabled by default on Ubuntu?
[05:01] <Sedge> k
[05:01] <pawan> nemik: yup. background them.
[05:01] <kratos> OptiPlex: Can I get it via wget?
[05:01] <darksoul> pawan: or i have to update...but my res was working fine on my other computer, and i put the same 3d card in this computer....
[05:01] <winston> need help getting ardour and jack working
[05:01] <Sedge> fdisk -l shows unformatted devices?
[05:01] <Sedge> or unmounted?
[05:01] <nemik> pawan: ok i'll have to read up a biut on 'backgrounding' then. thanks!
[05:01] <OptiPlex> dunno, never used wget :] 
[05:01] <darksoul> pawn: what sould the breezy sources be?
[05:01] <shorty114> paulproteus, i don't know if my driver currently works...
[05:01] <paulproteus> http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIMach64?action=highlight&value=CategoryHardware
[05:01] <OptiPlex> apt-get install 'plugin name' should work
[05:01] <dr_willis> Sedge,  'mount' shows mounted devices. :P fdisk shows all seen partitions.
[05:01] <pawan> nemik : but you have to be careful about dependencies.
[05:01] <mrhyd3> HobbSee: One more Q, I don't have X installed, just "server" install.  Know what file to add repositories too?
[05:01] <Hobbsee> !tell darksoul about sources
[05:02] <Sedge> ah
[05:02] <shorty114> i mean, i'm stuck on an ~800x600 res while others have done 1024x768 on this card
[05:02] <Sedge> /dev/sdc1   *           1        9728    78140128+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:02] <Hobbsee> mrhyd3: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:02] <Sedge> that's my old windows partition i take it
[05:02] <OptiPlex> server install owns :] 
[05:02] <nemik> pawan: ok, i'll do my best,
[05:02] <Cole> heinzanova: do you know what version of wmp54g you have?
[05:02] <Hobbsee> Sedge: yes, it would be
[05:02] <OptiPlex> yeah :] 
[05:02] <Sedge> well 1/2 of it anyways, was running raid 0
[05:02] <Sedge> :P
[05:02] <pawan> nemik: google for introduction to background command in bash     or something like that. Bash-intro howto will have stuff too.
[05:02] <kratos> This is why I dislike Linux... so much trouble, just to look a pr0n... -_o
[05:02] <heinzanova> cole, the card or the driver?
[05:02] <nemik> pawan: yes i'm looking at them now. :) thank you
[05:02] <Cole> the card
[05:03] <OptiPlex> you can also mkdir /media/whatever and mount -t /dev/sdc1 /media/whatever if you need to backup with ubuntu if that helps at all
[05:03] <OptiPlex> :] 
[05:03] <heinzanova> cole got the tower open lemme look
[05:03] <shorty114> kratos, heh
[05:03] <pawan> darksoul: ah. Same distro? ubuntu?
[05:03] <winston> need help getting ardour and jack working
[05:03] <mrhyd3> Hobbsee, there, we go...thank you!
[05:03] <Hobbsee> mrhyd3: no problems :)
[05:03] <mrhyd3> you don't know how much this has been bugging me!
[05:03] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:03] <Hobbsee> glad it can be fixed then!
[05:04] <heinzanova> cole, you know what lemme turn it off, I always find pulling live PCI cards out of a powered pu system to read them is typically a bad time
[05:04] <Sedge> nah, i don't have anything i need backed up
[05:04] <heinzanova> cole and durt I will brb in a few once I find out card version
[05:04] <Sedge> i'm just gonna blow it away
[05:04] <Cole> lol one sec.. let me see if there is another way i can find otu
[05:04] <Sedge> make it all empty space
[05:04] <mrhyd3> and I'm a google fiend and I guess, I could not "describe" what I wanted
[05:04] <Xenguy> Sound Q: is there an easy way to check if this laptop has a sound card of some kind?
[05:04] <heinzanova> cole ok
[05:04] <durt> heinzanove: i have to go to bed now :(
[05:04] <kratos> ugh
[05:04] <dabaR> Xenguy: lspci?
[05:04] <kratos> screw this
[05:05] <Cole> heinzanova: what does lspci say about your card
[05:05] <winston> need help getting ardour and jack working
[05:05] <OptiPlex> ASK THE ORACLE! :] 
[05:05] <dabaR> Xenguy: lspci |grep ' Multimedia audio controller:'
[05:05] <Xenguy> dabaR: I tried lspci |grep audio and get no output :-/
[05:05] <cafuego> !repeat
[05:05] <ubotu> I heard repeat is Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://www.ubuntuforums.org while you wait.
[05:05] <dabaR> read through lspci
[05:05] <heinzanova> lspci?
[05:05] <heinzanova> wtf
[05:05] <heinzanova> doh
[05:05] <dabaR> Xenguy: ^
[05:06] <Cole> heinzanova: yeah type it at a console and it should spew a bunch of stuff out
[05:06] <Xenguy> dabaR: tx, k
[05:06] <Cole> heinzanova: it will list all your pci devices
[05:06] <heinzanova> cole , Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless  LAN Controller (rev 02)
[05:06] <pawan> is there a tcp-ping in ubuntu? Ie relies on tcp-ack rather than icmp?
[05:06] <dabaR> sweet picture: http://www.binonabiso.com/work/Fotos/img114.jpeg.html
[05:06] <Sedge> hmm, i made a partition, but it's only recognizing the drive as 80.0gb
[05:06] <Xenguy> dabaR: woot!
[05:06] <Cole> heinzanova: let me look for a second
[05:07] <Rev-Marc> help can't take out the trash- says I don't haveproper permission- won't let me change - belongs to "root"- can't log on as "root"
[05:07] <ecobuntu> Sedge: how big is the drive?
[05:07] <shorty114> Rev-Marc, sudo
[05:07] <ecobuntu> Rev-Marc: trash belongs to root?
[05:07] <Cole> heinzanova: it say pciid:14e4:4320?
[05:07] <Xenguy> dabaR: false alarm, I got my boxen mixed up :P
[05:07] <paulproteus> Xenguy: :)
[05:07] <Sedge> 160gig
[05:07] <Sedge> i have 2 of them
[05:07] <liquidboy> i've enabled backports in 5.04, but synaptic / apt-get still can't find nvu :(
[05:08] <Sedge> ubuntu is installed on #1
[05:08] <Rev-Marc> tried sudo the file in the trash belongs to root
[05:08] <Sedge> and it's recognized as the full 160g
[05:08] <musik> how do i go to efnet??
[05:08] <Sedge> sata drives
[05:08] <heinzanova> cole, where would I see this?
[05:08] <ithiel> pawan, you should look at insecure.org for such tools. if you're not capable of installing such tools from source, you prolly don't have any business tinkering with such things
[05:08] <ecobuntu> Rev-Marc: how did you throw it in to the trash?
[05:08] <dabaR> Rev-Marc: sudo chown root:root ~/.Trash, in a terminal
[05:08] <cafuego> musik: Find an efnet server, connecto to it, join a channel, cry.
[05:08] <Xenguy> dabaR: nope, looks like no pci soundcard AFAICT
[05:08] <dabaR> !nvu
[05:08] <ubotu> somebody said nvu was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.
[05:08] <dr_willis> musik,  depends on your irc client.. may be worth while to read the clients docs...  /server irc.efnet.net   (May work)
[05:08] <misfit_toy> which exact directories should I tar to be able to bring this laptop back to this exact moment in time? every distro has it's idiosyncrasies and I would like to make this a standard laptop image.
[05:09] <Rev-Marc> right click move to trash
[05:09] <musik> dr_willis: thanx
[05:09] <Cole> heinzanova: it might not list it.. what drivers are you trying to use?
[05:09] <misfit_toy> I have read all day about this but nothing specific to breezy that I could find...I want a good "snapshot" of this laptop so that I can not only bring it back to exactly this point in time, but can deploy other laptops using the same "snapshot"
[05:09] <ecobuntu> Rev-Marc: are you logged in as root?
[05:09] <OptiPlex> lol #cooking owns
[05:09] <ecobuntu> OptiPlex: what does owns mean?
[05:09] <liable> check out partimage.
[05:09] <heinzanova> cole I tried the bcmwl5
[05:09] <cafuego> !dict own
[05:09] <heinzanova> cole and I tried the rt2500
[05:10] <Rev-Marc> says root log on not allowed
[05:10] <cafuego> useless bloody bot :-)
[05:10] <OptiPlex> rocks/kicks a$$/etc.
[05:10] <dabaR> Rev-Marc: I gave you the command,.
[05:10] <OptiPlex> :] 
[05:10] <Sedge> can i use apt-get to install LAME?
[05:10] <dr_willis> Sedge,  yes.
[05:10] <Sedge> oh, and Audacity can convert wma's to mp3, but i just need lame
[05:10] <Sedge> what's the command for that dr_willis
[05:10] <dabaR> Sedge: its in multiverse
[05:11] <Sedge> hrm
[05:11] <Cole> heinzanova: the rt2500 is for the v4 of the card it appears
[05:11] <dabaR> ubotu: tell Sedge about repos
[05:11] <Sedge> checking repositories :P
[05:11] <misfit_toy> !backup
[05:11] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, misfit_toy
[05:11] <blanky> is there a way to disable the system beep, it's frickin annoying
[05:11] <Rev-Marc> dabaR thank you very much it appears to have worked :0
[05:11] <dabaR> Rev-Marc: yes, that works.
[05:11] <Rev-Marc> ooops :0
[05:11] <misfit_toy> even the bot doesn't know how to backup? sweet.
[05:11] <Rev-Marc> :)
[05:11] <Xenguy> blanky: when booting?
[05:11] <Xenguy> misfit_toy: apt-cache search backup  ?
[05:12] <heinzanova> cole so I guess try version two?
[05:12] <misfit_toy> Xenguy, you didn't see my question evidently
[05:12] <misfit_toy> I have read all day about this but nothing specific to breezy that I could find...I want a good "snapshot" of this laptop so that I can not only bring it back to exactly this point in time, but can deploy other laptops using the same "snapshot"
[05:12] <misfit_toy> which exact directories should I tar to be able to bring this laptop back to this exact moment in time? every distro has it's idiosyncrasies and I would like to make this a standard laptop image.
[05:12] <Xenguy> misfit_toy: could be
[05:12] <Xenguy> misfit_toy: ahh
[05:12] <Rev-Marc> can someone please point me to a good write up on file sharing - if I don't get it working the wife insists that I have to put WinXP back on
[05:12] <ecobuntu> go #cooking cause it doesn't "own"
[05:12] <mrhyd3> One last question:  WHats the command/preocedure to start a service as a daemon upon boot?
[05:12] <Xenguy> misfit_toy: I seem to recall some tool called Mondo
[05:12] <misfit_toy> as in /var /etc /usr ...
[05:13] <dabaR> Rev-Marc: what is file sharing? specific protocol, pleas.
[05:13] <dr_willis> misfit_toy,  may want to look into the "mondo/mindi" backup/restore system.
[05:13] <ecobuntu> did you see my comment about martha stewart?
[05:13] <misfit_toy> which dir's do I need to have to make this a good snapshot backup
[05:13] <Sedge> anyone else getting this when trying to add multiverse through synaptic? Could not download all repository indexes
[05:13] <OptiPlex> :[
[05:13] <OptiPlex> of course cooking owns
[05:13] <Xenguy> mrhyd3: bum, or rcconf
[05:13] <b3nw> can anyone suggest a good gui ftp? gFTP keeps crashing on me :\
[05:13] <Xenguy> mrhyd3: or man update-rc.d
[05:13] <misfit_toy> dr_willis, I know *how* I just want to know which Ubuntu-specific folders I need, every distro is different in this respect
[05:14] <BenC> misfit_toy: all of them
[05:14] <dabaR> b3nw: nautilus.
[05:14] <maduyb> I'm trying to patch the kernel, I posted my problem here to be more descriptive, can someone check this out for me please? http://uiuc.myvnc.com/problem.html
[05:14] <Rev-Marc> um nfs or samba so I can get files on her computer and she on mine
[05:14] <misfit_toy> BenC, that shouldn't be neccessary
[05:14] <dabaR> ubotu: tell Rev-Marc about samba
[05:14] <b3nw> dabaR - something thats an actuall ftp program maybe?
[05:14] <Sedge> dr_willis, i'm getting a 404 error trying to add those multiverse repo's in synaptic
[05:14] <Sedge> any ideas?
[05:14] <ecobuntu> man #cooking owns
[05:14] <BenC> misfit_toy: you need everything that was installed, unless you plan to just do a fresh install and restore just config files
[05:14] <dabaR> b3nw: did you ask synaptic? Places>COnnect to server does it...
[05:15] <misfit_toy> BenC, that's what I mean, after a fresh install, what specific dir's would need to be restored?
[05:15] <Rev-Marc> b3nw I just loaded and used gftp and it worked great
[05:15] <BenC> mistfit: policy says /etc and /var
[05:15] <misfit_toy> hmm
[05:15] <BenC>  but /var is a little quirky
[05:15] <BenC> mostly /etc is what you want
[05:15] <b3nw> mmm Rev-Marc crashes randomly for me
[05:15] <dabaR> Sedge: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and post that to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:15] <misfit_toy> BenC, I would agree with /etc and /var but what about /usr ?
[05:16] <Cole> heinzanova: do you know what windows says it is? exactly?
[05:16] <dr_willis> Sedge,  edit the file manually. and put in a mirror perhaps.
[05:16] <BenC> mistfit: nothing in /usr is modified from the package install
[05:16] <Rev-Marc> sorry :(
[05:16] <heinzanova> cole not off hand I can check
[05:16] <heinzanova> cole if you give me a minute
[05:16] <BenC> misfit_toy: policy dictates that configurable files are in ~/ and /etc
[05:16] <BenC> so you want /home too
[05:16] <Sedge> dabaR, nothings listed in there
[05:16] <Sedge> at all, lol
[05:16] <heinzanova> cole, I need to reboot
[05:17] <Cole> heinzanova kk
[05:17] <misfit_toy> BenC, yes of course /home
[05:17] <misfit_toy> hmm
[05:17] <dabaR> Sedge: you did something wrong. sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:17] <misfit_toy> let me read for another 8 hours, thanks tho
[05:17] <BenC> if you backup /usr, you might aswell backup the whole disk anyway
[05:17] <BenC> that's 90% of the install
[05:17] <Sedge> dabaR, kk, one sec
[05:17] <misfit_toy> right
[05:18] <ecobuntu> i don't like cats very much
[05:18] <misfit_toy> BenC, I don't care about  having to *install* Ubuntu, but I need to have an easy way to restore every single program and setting from this laptop, from a disaster recovery point of view.
[05:18] <ecobuntu> i'm more of a dog person
[05:19] <Sedge> dabaR, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4601
[05:19] <ecobuntu> cats always want to stick their bottoms in your face
[05:19] <BenC> misfit_toy: I always do /etc, and keep a copy of "dpkg --get-selections > packagelist.txt"
[05:19] <dabaR> Sedge: show me the output of: sudo aptitude update
[05:19] <dr_willis> Dogs just like to sniff your groin.
[05:19] <dr_willis> :P
[05:19] <dabaR> Sedge: when I say show, I mean pastebin.
[05:20] <MagicFab> misfit_toy: have you tried/do you know partimage ?
[05:20] <misfit_toy> BenC, but that won't bring back specific "settings" for each app
[05:20] <misfit_toy> MagicFab, no I haven't
[05:20] <BenC> then you can do "dpkg --set-selections < packagelist.txt" and then "apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[05:20] <Xenguy> ecobuntu: funny, I'm the exact opposite
[05:20] <BenC> misfit_toy: "settings" for each app should be in ~/, or /etc
[05:20] <MagicFab> misfit_toy: kind of a libre "NOrton Ghost"
[05:20] <dabaR> misfit_toy: ask the instant * server people, they may know.
[05:21] <misfit_toy> MagicFab, that's what I'm looking for thanks
[05:21] <ecobuntu> yeah it's all about personal choice
[05:21] <dabaR> misfit_toy: #ubuntu-isntant
[05:21] <MagicFab> misfit_toy: http://www.partimage.org/
[05:21] <ecobuntu> but cats bottoms are so stinky and i swear they always try to push them in your face
[05:21] <dabaR> ecobuntu: :)
[05:21] <misfit_toy> ecobuntu, I have had cats all my life and never had ONE do that, you must be near a nuclear reactor.
[05:22] <shorty114> my packages are broken
[05:22] <dabaR> they do it, I can confirm.
[05:22] <ecobuntu> i have one on my lap right now that is always trying to push her bottom in my face
[05:22] <ecobuntu> and i don't care if she wants to push her face in my face but i don't want her bottom in my face
[05:22] <Sedge> dabaR, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4602
[05:22] <dabaR> shorty114: how is that? first, I would like to point out that to post large amounts of text, you use paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:22] <ecobuntu> but alas i digress
[05:22] <Sedge> took a while (i'm uploading atm too :P)
[05:22] <blanky> guys, wth is this, it's like all these games for linux that aren't even supported http://www.linuxcenter.ru/games/
[05:23] <Xenguy> ecobuntu: I find dogs stinky all over, where as cats clean themselves all the time <shrug>
[05:23] <dabaR> Sedge: put a # on the beginning of the multiverse lines.
[05:23] <shorty114> dabaR, first, it looks for stuff in the 4.10 CD, which is OLD, and it never did this before
[05:23] <blanky> Xenguy: I mean the beep when like, you press backspace in a terminal when you haven't typed anything, etc.
[05:23] <dabaR> Sedge: err...on the beginning of the backports lines.
[05:23] <WhyvasLT> keyboard shortcut for switching desktops in gnome?
[05:23] <ecobuntu> Xenguy: yeah i agree...but it's a different kind of stink
[05:23] <Astxist-B> samll dogs tend to not smell
[05:23] <Xenguy> blanky: ahh, /etc/inputrc ...
[05:23] <darksoul> !sources
[05:23] <dabaR> Sedge: also, add a *multiverse* on the universe line.
[05:23] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:23] <shorty114> dabaR, second, i want to install grip, but can't be installed because of something i'm about to paste
[05:23] <ecobuntu> i like animals with a bottom that is more than a foot from their heads
[05:23] <dabaR> Sedge: Ill post the change in a sec.
[05:24] <Sedge> well that's the same as just configuring them not to be included using synaptic right dabaR ?
[05:24] <ecobuntu> :)
[05:24] <paulproteus> Source-o-matic sounds cool!
[05:24] <Sedge> unchecking them rather
[05:24] <blanky> Xenguy /etc/inputrc/whatfilehere?
[05:24] <Xenguy> blanky: try this line in that file -> set bell-style visible
[05:24] <dabaR> Sedge: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4604
[05:24] <Xenguy> blanky: the file /etc/inputrc
[05:24] <shorty114> dabaR, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4603
[05:24] <heinzanova> cole, windows just says, Wireless G-PCI
[05:24] <dabaR> Sedge: you somehow managed to enable backports multiverse instead.
[05:25] <Xenguy> blanky: you may have to logout/login again (don't recall now)
[05:25] <ecobuntu> heinz: lspci at terminal...what does it say about wireless?
[05:25] <Xenguy> blanky: be root
[05:25] <blanky> I am
[05:25] <Cole> heinzanova: ok.. type a lspci -n
[05:25] <blanky> but it only says that it'll do taht on tab completion
[05:25] <dabaR> shorty114: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and paste that to pastebin./
[05:25] <shorty114> dabaR, k, one sec
[05:25] <blanky> # do not bell on tab-completion
[05:25] <blanky> # set bell-style none
[05:25] <Cole> heinzanova: and look for a a column that looks like 104c:8400 but it will ahve differtn nubmers/letters
[05:25] <blanky> that's my config file
[05:25] <Sedge> yeah, i had checked them in the synaptic options page
[05:25] <blanky> (excerpt)
[05:25] <Sedge> i've reversed that now
[05:25] <dabaR> shorty114: you used ubuntuguide.org, right?
[05:26] <heinzanova> ecobuntu, 0000:00:0c.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02
[05:26] <Sedge> so i just add multiverse to the end of the lines?
[05:26] <heinzanova> cole, ok hang on
[05:26] <Xenguy> blanky: try it, it works
[05:26] <blanky> do I uncomment the second line and put visible instead of none?
[05:26] <shorty114> dabaR, i think so
[05:26] <_smd_> dabaR: I am going to start copying my things from /home
[05:26] <Xenguy> blanky: and please use nick completion to prepend my nick - this channel is busy :-)
[05:26] <heinzanova> cole, 0000:00:0f.0 0104: 1106:3149 (rev 80)
[05:26] <heinzanova>   ???
[05:26] <dabaR> Sedge: or, you can read my paste, and copy that into your sources.list file.
[05:26] <dabaR> _smd_: did you send me an email?
[05:26] <_smd_> dabaR: you meant not in home right?
[05:27] <shorty114> dabaR, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4605
[05:27] <dabaR> _smd_: home is a different partition.
[05:27] <Xenguy> blanky: backup the file first, then use #B# to comment any lines you change, then add the line I mentioned above
[05:27] <Cole> heinzanova: hmmmm
[05:27] <cafuego> Ahaa!
[05:27] <Sedge> yeah, i'm just gonna edit it with vi (i'm remembering some of this stuff - been 3 years since i've touched linux :P)
[05:27] <heinzanova> cole, Installed ndis drivers:
[05:27] <heinzanova> bcmwl5  driver present, hardware present
[05:27] <heinzanova> 
[05:27] <_smd_> dabaR: i sent you one when i got out of the weather
[05:27] <dabaR> shorty114: /exec -o cat /etc/issue, as a command to this channel.
[05:27] <blanky> Xenguy, I'm so confused, dont worry, I'll just slowly die with it :'S
[05:27] <heinzanova> cole, so why the hell doesnt it show up in networking if it says it is there and it is installed right >:o
[05:27] <shorty114> Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" \n \l
[05:27] <dabaR> _smd_: how about that weather?
[05:28] <Xenguy> blanky: /me looks again...
[05:28] <dabaR> Sedge: where are you in ca?
[05:28] <maduyb> sorry if asking again is bad form, but -- I'm trying to apply a patch to the Kernel, but having problems, http://uiuc.myvnc.com/problem.html for detailed information. Can somone give me advice?
[05:28] <heinzanova> cole, when I had the rt2500 it said wrong driver
[05:28] <shorty114> oh what, i thought i updated to breezy...
[05:28] <blanky> can anyone please tell me what this frickin is? http://www.linuxcenter.ru/games/#105
[05:28] <Sedge> Saskatchewan
[05:28] <heinzanova> cole, and that driver is the driver windows is using to
[05:28] <Sedge> Canada ;)
[05:28] <ecobuntu> Alberta here
[05:28] <Sedge> nice
[05:28] <_smd_> dabaR: i may be sick tommorow *cough*
[05:28] <Sedge> Saskatoon =)
[05:28] <ecobuntu> Are you in Regina?
[05:28] <dabaR> Sedge: is it snowing there as hard as in winnipeg?
[05:28] <Xenguy> blanky: I would just add the line I mentioned - not too hard to do :-)
[05:28] <Sedge> nowhere as near dabaR
[05:28] <Sedge> we've had a little snow
[05:28] <Sedge> winniipeg is nuts
[05:28] <ecobuntu> i am in Edmonton
[05:28] <Cole> heinzanova: hmmm can i email you a driver to try
[05:28] <Xenguy> blanky: unless you think my line conflicts with one that is already uncommented
[05:29] <Sedge> cool ;)
[05:29] <Sedge> lotsa Canucks
[05:29] <heinzanova> cole, warrenahner@gmail.com
[05:29] <musik> on what other servers can i find linxu channels??
[05:29] <blanky> nah, i'm alright, but can you tell me what this http://www.linuxcenter.ru/games/#105 is?
[05:29] <_smd_>  Sedge: where there I am from there?
[05:29] <dabaR> Sedge: us too, and yesterday it started snowing, and now there is like 25cm of snow already.
[05:29] <ecobuntu> i am an American
[05:29] <Sedge> o.O
[05:29] <_smd_> was from there....
[05:29] <dabaR> _smd_: :)
[05:29] <Sedge> yikes
[05:29] <ecobuntu> 25 cm wow!
[05:29] <ecobuntu> we got like 1 here
[05:29] <WhyvasLT> yeah canada
[05:29] <Sedge> yeah, maybe 6 in toon town
[05:29] <WhyvasLT> fucken aye
[05:29] <_smd_> it took me 1:37 mins to get to work
[05:30] <ecobuntu> i wish i lived in montreal or quebec instead...that's where the real snow is
[05:30] <_smd_> 1hr37mins...
[05:30] <Sedge> ok, now i forget why i was editing this file in the first place lol
[05:30] <glick> damn about gnome
[05:30] <Sedge> oh yeah
[05:30] <Sedge> lame
[05:30] <glick> why cant there be an option to go with the default gnome look
[05:30] <Cole> heinzanova: ok 1 sec
[05:30] <glick> with the nice gnome footprint n stuff
[05:30] <dabaR> shorty114: well, you need to start by putting a # on the first line.
[05:30] <_smd_> dabaR: you meant what is NOT in my /home folder right?
[05:30] <blanky> ecobuntu: you're american? wow, that means we're gonna treat you better! just ask away, we'll answer your questions nicely
[05:30] <shorty114> dabaR, ok
[05:30] <ecobuntu> ha ha
[05:30] <zeus> kien habla espaol
[05:30] <WhyvasLT> im in fredericton, sometimes it gets pretty bad here
[05:30] <zeus> ?
[05:30] <Sedge> =P
[05:30] <ecobuntu> you better or we'll bomb you!
[05:30] <WhyvasLT> but not too too bad
[05:30] <glick> how can i get the default gnome look
[05:30] <glick> ?
[05:30] <Sedge> yeah, the east coast can be pretty harsh
[05:31] <aalex> do you guys all have broken dpkg on your ubuntu installations, like me with 2/2 installations that have a broken dpkg !!
[05:31] <blanky> is there an installer I need for quake3 on linux?
[05:31] <ecobuntu> hey i heard a few canadians have gone to iraq to fight the americans
[05:31] <aalex> WhyvasLT, im in Montral
[05:31] <dabaR> shorty114: next, on the 014 line in that pastebin, you need to add to the end: main multiverse restricted
[05:31] <cafuego> aalex: No, dpkg works fine on all my Ubuntu installs.
[05:31] <ecobuntu> i heard it on the CBC
[05:31] <Cole> heinzanova: gmail is kicking it out because of the .sys file
[05:31] <WhyvasLT> i used to live in chicoutimi, that was fucking nuts
[05:31] <WhyvasLT> lots of snow there
[05:31] <Sedge> o.O
[05:31] <dabaR> shorty114: off course, in your gedit, that has that file open
[05:31] <aalex> hehe
[05:31] <heinzanova> cole
[05:31] <Sedge> i lived in Thompson, MB for about 7 years
[05:31] <Sedge> it was nuts up there
[05:31] <heinzanova> cole, I am suppost to be using the sys files not the inf?
[05:32] <shorty114> dabaR, done
[05:32] <Cole> heinzanova: you need both in the directory i believe
[05:32] <dabaR> shorty114: show me(pastebin)
[05:32] <heinzanova> oke that is what I thought
[05:32] <aalex> man, its so canadian here... strange. There were only french speaking about win (!!) in #ubuntu-fr
[05:32] <DrBair> maduyb:  the default ubuntu kernel should handle that card without issue
[05:32] <aalex> wine, i mean
[05:32] <heinzanova> cole, I am suppost to point the ndiswrapper to the inf though, correct?
[05:32] <Sedge> heh, yeah lots of canucks
[05:32] <Cole> yes
[05:32] <blanky> Someone, how can I get deus ex and quake 3 installed on linux
[05:32] <Sedge> that's cool
[05:32] <ecobuntu> canada = a softler, gentler, nicer, more socialist USA
[05:32] <Xenguy> ecobuntu: yeah, just the dumb ones :p
[05:32] <maduyb> Drbiar, it does, however I'm trying out the ArchCK patches for fun
[05:33] <Sedge> lol ecobuntu
[05:33] <Sedge> so true
[05:33] <shorty114> dabaR, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4606
[05:33] <dabaR> aalex: we move in silence
[05:33] <WhyvasLT> ecobuntu, you forgot smarter and skinnier.
[05:33] <ecobuntu> (also not imperalistic)
[05:33] <heinzanova> ecobuntu you are missing the best thing about canada, the strippers and their extra services....
[05:33] <Xenguy> ecobuntu: give me a break, nobody up here want to be an "American Idiot" (thanks Green Day :P )
[05:33] <WhyvasLT> and the real beer
[05:33] <ecobuntu> in edmonton?  to cold
[05:33] <ecobuntu> i think paul martin is going down
[05:34] <heinzanova> Xenguy, I love canookistan, I wish I lived up there
[05:34] <_smd_> dabaR: also yeh don't get what you meant what you told me to do... put it where?  i am having real beer right now
[05:34] <ecobuntu> i went to montana last weekend and we were talking about canada and nobody knew the PM's name
[05:34] <Cole> heinzanova: i sent it as a rar file since gmail was bitchign about zip
[05:34] <ecobuntu> so sad
[05:34] <Xenguy> heinzanova: do you now?
[05:34] <glick> i wish the ubuntu people would keep or at least give you the option to go with the default gnome look
[05:34] <dabaR> shorty114: very good. save, close, and: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[05:34] <heinzanova> cole, thanks lemme get it
[05:34] <glick> i like that foot print
[05:34] <dabaR> _smd_: what?
[05:34] <WhyvasLT> ecobuntu, americans don't know shit
[05:34] <dabaR> _smd_: :)) are you refering to my email?
[05:35] <nomasteryoda|w> er, ok
[05:35] <WhyvasLT> to them, the world==us
[05:35] <shorty114> dabaR, ok, it's going. thanks a bunch for your help.
[05:35] <ecobuntu> hey now...i'm an american and i know stuff ;)
[05:35] <nomasteryoda|w> ubuntu off-topic
[05:35] <glick> why would americans know the prime minister of Canada?
[05:35] <_smd_> dabaR: uch as /var/www/ blah
[05:35] <mrhyd3> WhyvasLT, check yourself
[05:35] <glick> i dont know the prime minister of canada
[05:35] <heinzanova> cole, um archive manager says unsoported file?
[05:35] <dabaR> _smd_: if you have any important files on your web server, back those up.
[05:35] <ecobuntu> glick: i hope you're not canadian
[05:35] <nomasteryoda|w> asente fox, yea...LOL
[05:35] <dabaR> _smd_: they are in that folder.
[05:35] <glick> most people of the world dont know the name of the prime minister of canada
[05:35] <mrhyd3> Paul Martin no?
[05:35] <nomasteryoda|w> oh, wait thats mexico
[05:36] <ecobuntu> it's vicente fox btw
[05:36] <nomasteryoda|w> dabaR, thanks
[05:36] <kevogod> nomasteryoda|w, That's the President of Mexico. And that's Vicente
[05:36] <Cole> heinzanova: oh hmmm ubuntu might not have rar isntalled by default
[05:36] <nomasteryoda|w> see, we only know Linux
[05:36] <nomasteryoda|w> =D
[05:36] <heinzanova> cole, hrm any quick command to fix that?
[05:36] <_smd_> dabaR: saving things
[05:36] <MagicFab> glick: you mean the president and owner ? :D
[05:37] <dabaR> Cole: it is non-free software, in multiverse as all non-fre softawre is.
[05:37] <glick> how about something *on* topic, why doesnt ubuntu have the default theme that comes with gnome?
[05:37] <nomasteryoda|w> so tell me why Gnome nautilus have the same nice copy-paste functions of KDE?
[05:37] <ecobuntu> glick: have you tried themes?
[05:37] <dabaR> _smd_: just put everything you want saved under your home.
[05:37] <nomasteryoda|w> glick, cause they are different
[05:37] <glick> ecobuntu, yes
[05:37] <ecobuntu> glick: all distros are like that
[05:37] <nixuser1> text test, see it?
[05:37] <_smd_> k
[05:37] <Cole> heinzaonva: just sent you a zipped version renamed to .notzip so you probabably will have to change it back to zip
[05:37] <ecobuntu> glick: you could d/l it from gnome-look.org
[05:37] <dabaR> glick: /msg ubotu wiki MarkShuttleworth, for an explanation of the brown color choice.
[05:37] <Cole> heinzanova: i fooled gmail
[05:37] <nixuser1> text test see it?
[05:38] <dabaR> no
[05:38] <glick> yah the brown color looks crappy
[05:38] <nemik> so my cron script to start a bash script i made isn't working...
[05:38] <glick> pun intended
[05:38] <shorty114> ubuntu++
[05:38] <shorty114> ubuntu++
[05:38] <dabaR> haha
[05:38] <shorty114> gentoo++
[05:38] <shorty114> gentoo++
[05:38] <dabaR> shorty114: are you ok?
[05:38] <shorty114> oh whoops wrong channel
[05:38] <shorty114> sorry about that...
[05:38] <c0al> no plus signs please++
[05:38] <oneseventeen_> I just compiled a kernel with the ndiswraper-module, and I only have one .deb file in my /usr/src/ (ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.12.custom_1.1-rubuntu2+10.00.Custom_i386.deb)
[05:38] <dabaR> shorty114: thats fine, did that upgrade start?
[05:39] <shorty114> dabaR, yeah, it's going along. thanks for your help!
[05:39] <oneseventeen_> the example I read showed there to be more kernel .deb files without the modules, as well as those with the modules
[05:39] <dabaR> shorty114: $20
[05:39] <Sedge> ok, so lame doesn't work for converting wma to mp3 (guess i shoulda figured that) :P
[05:39] <JayInCalif> I have a qstn about installing software from a tarball. The makefile.in wants to use termcap; I've read that termcap is emulated in Ubuntu by ncurses so edited the line to read "LIBS = -lncurses" (without the quotes). But it won't make. It complains "cannot find -lncurses"
[05:39] <JayInCalif> Am running Breezy
[05:39] <ecobuntu> Jay: is there not a debian package avaialbe?
[05:39] <JayInCalif> Unfortunately no.
[05:39] <Cole> heinzanova: brb in a second food in microwave
[05:39] <oneseventeen_> if I install the ndiswrapper-modules-version_stuff-ubuntu2+10.00.Custom_i386.deb file will that install a new kernel, or just the ndiswrapper module for that kernel?
[05:40] <shorty114> dabaR, you _are_ joking, right?
[05:40] <JayInCalif> The software is "mlist" - a clone of the old MS-DOS proggie "list" by Vern Buerg
[05:40] <dabaR> JayInCalif: you may want one of the libncurses4-dev or libncurses5-dev
[05:40] <heinzanova> cole, thanks ok installed
[05:40] <dabaR> shorty114: no, straight to counter #2
[05:40] <heinzanova> cole, lemme tlel you steps I did make sure they are right
[05:40] <JayInCalif> dabaR - thanks, will check
[05:40] <Cole> heinzanova: sure
[05:40] <_smd_> hehe $20...
[05:41] <heinzanova> cole, first I did :   sudo ndiswrapper -i /home/warren/cole/bcmwl5.inf
[05:41] <heinzanova> cole, then I did :     sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:41] <Cole> heinzanova: type sudo ndiswrapper -l
[05:41] <nemik> so why are not any of my crons working in breezy?
[05:41] <Cole> what does it output
[05:41] <mustard5> dabaR, :)
[05:42] <heinzanova> cole, Installed ndis drivers:
[05:42] <heinzanova> bcmwl5  driver present, hardware present
[05:42] <JayInCalif> dabaR - libncurses5 is installed but not libncurses5-dev so am installing it
[05:42] <ecobuntu> i'm glad i don't have to use ndiswrapper ;)  good old orinoco gold pc card!
[05:42] <Cole> heinzanova: type sudo depmod -a
[05:42] <WhyvasLT> prism card!
[05:42] <WhyvasLT> the best!
[05:42] <ecobuntu> yes!
[05:42] <heinzanova> cole, ok
[05:42] <Cole> any errors?
[05:43] <ecobuntu> i love it when things work out of the box
[05:43] <heinzanova> cole nope just gives me the next line of prompt
[05:43] <dabaR> JayInCalif: when compiling, and you need a lib, you want the -dev version.
[05:43] <heinzanova> cole, is modprobe or that suppost to post anything back if they work successfully?
[05:43] <ecobuntu> heniz: modprobe is silent
[05:43] <Cole> heinzanova: no i was just making sure everything before that was correct
[05:43] <heinzanova> cole ok than all is good
[05:44] <WhyvasLT> oranges make me fart.
[05:44] <heinzanova> ecobuntu, thanks
[05:44] <Cole> i'm having a brain fart.. you should check your system log for "ndiswrapper version <version> loaded" but i cant' remember how lol
[05:44] <ecobuntu> dmesg?
[05:44] <Cole> yeah
[05:45] <blanky> Hey guys
[05:45] <blanky> I just installed kubuntu-desktop
[05:45] <dabaR> yo blanky
[05:45] <blanky> I think it installed openoffice again, did it?
[05:45] <mustard5> welcome blanky
[05:45] <heinzanova> cole, OH dam
[05:45] <blanky> :)
[05:45] <glick> congrats blanky
[05:45] <heinzanova> cole, I think we found the problem
[05:45] <ecobuntu> no blanky
[05:45] <ecobuntu> it shouldn't have
[05:45] <heinzanova> cole, shit not good either
[05:45] <blanky> <---blank :)
[05:45] <Cole> heinzanoav: what does it say?
[05:45] <blanky> oh okay :) thanks!
[05:45] <heinzanova> cole, [ 1076.893836]  ndiswrapper version 1.1 loaded (preempt=no,smp=no)
[05:45] <heinzanova> [ 1076.908222]  ndiswrapper (check_nt_hdr:145): Windows driver is not 64-bit; bad  magic: 010B
[05:45] <heinzanova> [ 1076.908230]  ndiswrapper (load_sys_files:456): unable to prepare driver 'bcmwl 5'
[05:45] <heinzanova> [ 1076.914866]  ndiswrapper (ndiswrapper_load_driver:92): loadndiswrapper failed (6); check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'
[05:45] <dabaR> !paste
[05:45] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:46] <ecobuntu> oh no don't paste like that
[05:46] <ecobuntu> people have heart attacks over things less severe than that
[05:46] <ecobuntu> ;)
[05:46] <shorty114> !pkginfo rss-glx
[05:46] <ubotu> shorty114: I haven't a clue
[05:46] <JayInCalif> dabaR - that was it, all right; the program compiled and seems to run OK
[05:46] <dabaR> heinzanova: are you running 64 bit ubuntu?
[05:46] <heinzanova> cole, I have 64bit for my A64 installed, and I think the windows one is 32bit, thus not work able?
[05:46] <shorty114> !help
[05:46] <heinzanova> dabaR, yes
[05:46] <dabaR> shorty114: !ask the bot
[05:47] <heinzanova> SORRY ALL FOR THE LONG POST
[05:47] <Cole> heinzanova: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[05:47] <heinzanova> I did not know it wasn't kosher, my bad
[05:47] <heinzanova> <~~~ newb flag
[05:47] <mustard5> shorty114, I think that calls the ops to the channel :)
[05:47] <dabaR> !shout
[05:47] <ubotu> [shout]  WE CAN READ LOWER CASE!
[05:47] <dabaR> ;)
[05:47] <ecobuntu> heinz: don't do it in #debian they'll kick you
[05:47] <blanky> which supports wider systems, kde or gnome
[05:47] <blanky> as in, more systems
[05:47] <JayInCalif> dabaR - it did throw an error during make install regarding being able to cp to /usr/local/man/man1
[05:47] <dabaR> blanky: its not related at all. thats just the desktop environment.
[05:48] <cafuego> mustard5: no, !help makes ubotu explain how it works.
[05:48] <ecobuntu> so 5 more months until dapper, eh?
[05:48] <Cole> heinz: i have no clue about loading it into an A64...
[05:48] <mustard5> cafuego, k
[05:48] <Cole> heinz: but that would be the driver you should use i am pretty confidnet
[05:48] <dabaR> JayInCalif: I saw people running make install with sudo in front, I am not sure it is proper practice.
[05:48] <heinzanova> cole, that is the same one I was using and windows is using
[05:48] <cafuego> heinzanova: You need a 64bit windows driver then. No other option.
[05:48] <ecobuntu> yeah make install requires sudo
[05:48] <ecobuntu> but make doesn't
[05:48] <heinzanova> cole, figures I nipped myself in the ass trying to be cute with the 64 bit version
[05:48] <cafuego> don't run 'make install'!!!
[05:48] <heinzanova> cafuego, I dont think there is one out yet
[05:49] <dabaR> cafuego: why?
[05:49] <cafuego> !checkinstall
[05:49] <ubotu> hmm... checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[05:49] <dabaR> cafuego: and that is really a safer way?
[05:49] <Xenguy> checkinstall is cooool
[05:49] <cafuego> dabaR: it generates an uninstallable deb, so yes.
[05:49] <blanky> everything in my KDE is big despite my high resolution, anyway I can make it smaller?
[05:49] <JayInCalif> dabaR, ecobuntu - tried sudo make install; it gave the same error. I'm going to guess that its man doesn't actually exist for some reason, b/c there is a /usr/local/man/man1 directory and it should have the right to cp there
[05:49] <dabaR> cafuego: aha.
[05:50] <Xenguy> blanky: kcontrol  ?
[05:50] <ecobuntu> so it makes a .deb file?
[05:50] <blanky> maaan..I think it installed everything again, my gaim doesn't have my old account info from gnome
[05:50] <cafuego> heinzanova: Then you won't be able to use said card in 64bit Linux
[05:50] <cafuego> ecobuntu: yep
[05:50] <Xenguy> ecobuntu: yes
[05:50] <ecobuntu> why not just do make uninstall if you want to uninstall it?
[05:50] <ecobuntu> same thing right?
[05:50] <Cole> heinzanova: the only reason it works in windows it because you have a 32bit windows installed
[05:50] <cafuego> ecobuntu: Coz most makesfiles don't have that option.
[05:50] <dabaR> blanky: from the same user name?
[05:50] <heinzanova> cole, that is correct
[05:50] <blanky> yeah, same account on ubuntu, just I'm using kde instead of gnome
[05:50] <ecobuntu> hmm
[05:50] <heinzanova> cole, will 32bit linux work fine on this? or did they make a 64 bit version for a reason?
[05:50] <ecobuntu> learn something new
[05:50] <nemik> how can i make an xmms windows pop up with a crontab?
[05:51] <cafuego> (and you'd need to keep a copy of the configured source anyway)
[05:51] <dabaR> blanky: in kde, you can use kopete as a IM client.
[05:51] <Cole> heinzanova: the normal i386 version of ubuntu will run on your machine
[05:51] <blanky> yeah I like gaim :)
[05:51] <ecobuntu> kopete suxs
[05:51] <blanky> my bookmarks are still there in firefox, so I guess it's okay
[05:51] <heinzanova> cole, but the 64bit version runs everything else so nice and fast
[05:51] <blanky> lol
[05:51] <MagicFab> I like Gaim for encryption and auto-joining IRC channels
[05:51] <heinzanova> cole, :-(
[05:51] <ecobuntu> gaim is much better
[05:51] <dhe_dhe> h
[05:51] <dabaR> thanks for spreading your narrow views, ecobuntu ;)
[05:51] <heinzanova> cole, damn wireless card
[05:51] <cafuego> heinzanova: i386 linux will work fine, just amrginally slower at computationally or memory i/o intensive tasks (like compiling or sql)
[05:51] <ecobuntu> apt-get remove kopete --purge && apt-get install gaim
[05:52] <blanky> lol
[05:52] <Cole> heinz: the question comes down to what ar eyou goign to use the box for?
[05:52] <cafuego> heinzanova: An othe roption is to purchase supported hardware ;-)
[05:52] <ecobuntu> apt-get remove konversation --purge && apt-get install irssi-text
[05:52] <Cole> heinz: or is finding a supported network card
[05:52] <blanky> http://blank.cjb.cc/pics/Natalie_Wallpaper2.JPG <--rate that picture
[05:52] <ecobuntu> i guess irssi-text is installed by default anyways
[05:52] <heinzanova> cafuego, do you know any wireless cards with 64 bit support?
[05:52] <ecobuntu> i heart my terminal
[05:53] <cafuego> blanky: "frightening"
[05:53] <ecobuntu> heinz: try goole
[05:53] <ecobuntu> google
[05:53] <StinkyRyan> anybody know of a way to get canon pixma printers to work?
[05:53] <dabaR> blanky: very ugly on my pleasurable scale.
[05:53] <blanky> YAY, thanks :D *flexes*
[05:53] <blanky> actually I didn't make it haha
[05:53] <heinzanova> ecobuntu, what is google?
[05:53] <cafuego> heinzanova: ANy prism2 card; any card with an atheros chipset (madwifi does 64bit right?)
[05:53] <blanky> I just liked it, so I put it up, wanna see my avatar? (no it's not something like 'super mega ninja 5000'
[05:53] <cafuego> heinzanova: and some prism2 cards
[05:53] <blanky> http://blank.cjb.cc/pics/blank.JPG
[05:53] <dabaR> blanky: I mean, for a desktop background, too much white for me, and too many things to make you lose your concentration.
[05:53] <cafuego> some prism3 cards even
[05:54] <ecobuntu> heinz: lol
[05:54] <dabaR> blanky: also, please do not post too many pictures.
[05:54] <ecobuntu> heinz: you don't know what google is?
[05:54] <ecobuntu> really?
[05:54] <blanky> dabaR, look at this one then http://blank.cjb.cc/pics/Natalie_Wallpaper.JPG
[05:54] <Cole> heinz: google is google.com aka search linux 64bit supported wireless cards
[05:54] <blanky> okay, fine, that was the last one
[05:54] <ecobuntu> !google
[05:54] <ubotu> I don't know, ecobuntu
[05:54] <dabaR> blanky: pah
[05:54] <ecobuntu> wow i thought newborns were born with google in their hands
[05:54] <blanky> -_-, good thing I didn't make them :P
[05:55] <_smd_> dabaR: did you mean to /home or to /home/blah because I cannot paste anything there, just to  /home/blah
[05:55] <heinzanova> ecobuntu, I am joking
[05:55] <blanky> how can I add launchers to the bottom of the toolbar in KDE
[05:55] <cafuego> !googe is <reply> http://fuckinggoogle.com/?q=google
[05:55] <ubotu> cafuego: please, watch your language.
[05:55] <cafuego> !google is <reply> http://fuckinggoogle.com/?q=google
[05:55] <ubotu> cafuego: please, watch your language.
[05:55] <dooglus> is there any way to get ubuntu to remember my DNS settings?  I have to enter them every time I reboot.
[05:55] <ecobuntu> natalie portman is pretty hot
[05:55] <heinzanova> ecobuntu sorry gf is in chat window bitching me out for spending the past 4 days ignoring her and trying to get this working
[05:55] <dabaR> _smd_: your home dir, so /home/blah.
[05:55] <cafuego> ubotu: I will lobotomize you!
[05:55] <ubotu> Wish i knew, cafuego
[05:55] <ecobuntu> ha ha ha
[05:55] <ecobuntu> i konw that feeling
[05:56] <ecobuntu> that's how my gf acted when i started out too
[05:56] <dr_willis> dooglus,  i had a similer issue wen using wireless and normal network ing. :(
[05:56] <dabaR> cafuego: nice. I am so glad he rejected that.
[05:56] <ecobuntu> it takes a while
[05:56] <dabaR> :P
[05:56] <blanky> lol ecobuntu :D
[05:56] <cafuego> dabaR: Unfortunately...
[05:56] <blanky> economic ubuntu?
[05:56] <ecobuntu> ecology
[05:56] <ecobuntu> i'm an ecologist
[05:56] <blanky> -_-
[05:56] <dooglus> dr_willis: did you resolve it?
[05:56] <ecobuntu> !google
[05:56] <ubotu> ecobuntu: Wish i knew
[05:56] <ecobuntu> i thought you just set up the google response?
[05:56] <Cole> did i hear natalie portman ... check out http://www.sexydesktop.co.uk/natalie.htm
[05:57] <dabaR> ecobuntu: scroll up.
[05:57] <Sedge> hrm, how can i extract rar's in ubuntu?
[05:57] <cafuego> !google
[05:57] <ubotu> from memory, google is http://fuckinggoogle.com/?q=google
[05:57] <cafuego> Thankyou.
[05:57] <heinzanova> cole, thank you for your help
[05:57] <ecobuntu> !google is
[05:57] <ubotu> ecobuntu: Do they come in packets of five?
[05:57] <zenrox> Results for: is
[05:57] <zenrox> http://www.indo.com/distance/
[05:57] <zenrox> http://whatis.techtarget.com/
[05:57] <zenrox> http://www.blogger.com/
[05:57] <heinzanova> ecobuntu thank you
[05:57] <_smd_> dabaR:  then the swap partition....
[05:57] <Cole> heinz: no proglem
[05:57] <heinzanova> cafuego, thank you also
[05:57] <ecobuntu> no problem
[05:57] <cafuego> !google bot
[05:57] <mrhyd3> Natalie has to be one of the 3 most beatuful women in the world.
[05:57] <ubotu> cafuego: I haven't a clue
[05:57] <zenrox> Results for: bot
[05:57] <heinzanova> durt thank you also
[05:57] <ecobuntu> just stick with it
[05:57] <zenrox> http://www.hotbot.com/
[05:57] <zenrox> http://www.botspot.com/
[05:57] <zenrox> http://www.bot.or.th/
[05:57] <ecobuntu> you'll get things figured out
[05:57] <heinzanova> all your guy's help has been apperciated
[05:57] <cafuego> Who owns zenrox?
[05:57] <ecobuntu> zenrox sucks
[05:58] <dr_willis> dooglus,  nope. :P not sure what the deal was..  check the forums. I think theres some service that edits that file.
[05:58] <Cole> heinz: i guess i should start asking people what platform they are running on first.. because that would have saved a ton of time
[05:58] <cafuego> !ops
[05:58] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and nalioth
[05:58] <dabaR> zenrox is likely a person.
[05:58] <dabaR> oh wow
[05:58] <cafuego> Maybe, it should either way not response to the bot control character.
[05:59] <heinzanova> cole, learning experiance for us all
[05:59] <dabaR> hmm...it's quiet here tonight on freenode.
[05:59] <heinzanova> cole, I would have never thought of that
[05:59] <heinzanova> cole, but that was the reason I never went to XP64, I can't believe that blew right over my head
[05:59] <heinzanova> cole, because the other day a coworker and I was discussing it
[05:59] <zenrox> ecobuntu,  cafuego  you suck
[05:59] <Xenguy> Sedge: apt-cache search rar
[06:00] <Xenguy> Sedge: (sorry if that was way lagged :-)
[06:00] <dabaR> pah
[06:00] <cafuego> Yes, blame the messenger.
[06:00] <Sedge> got it Xenguy
[06:00] <ecobuntu> wow zenrox seems a little rough around the edges
[06:00] <Xenguy> :-)
[06:00] <Sedge> thx ;)
[06:00] <ecobuntu> go whalers!
[06:00] <Sedge> i'm gettin the hang of this now ;)
[06:01] <cafuego> I even asked politely in /msg :-P
[06:01] <Cole> heinz: yeah i hear ya... well atleast we figured out what was wrong
[06:01] <ecobuntu> WHALERS!
[06:01] <firestone> can i set up an email cleint to read AOL email
[06:01] <Cole> heinz: i gotta run for a while.. afk
[06:01] <ecobuntu> firestone: does AOL email have pop?
[06:01] <firestone> ecobuntu, i dont know if it has pop
[06:01] <ecobuntu> man winnipeg is snowed in eh
[06:02] <dabaR> firestone: go to aol.com and find their faq section, then search for mail servers.
[06:02] <ecobuntu> firestone: can you do email forwarding?  look under options...ps go WHALERS
[06:02] <mlalkaka> hey everyone
[06:03] <firestone> ecobuntu, WHALERS?
[06:03] <nemik> i'm going crazy. how can i get cron to lock my screen?
[06:03] <ecobuntu> hartford whalers man
[06:03] <ecobuntu> the hockey team from like 5 or 10 years ago
[06:03] <_smd_> dabaR: i pasted
[06:03] <maddash> does ctrl+alt+f2 launch me into console mode?
[06:04] <misfit_toy> maddash, should
[06:04] <cafuego> maddash: it switches from X to console, X will keep running.
[06:04] <ecobuntu> dang it why can't it snow like that in edmonton
[06:04] <jgrieves> if my TV tuner card id detected to the point it is picking up the correct name, waht are the chances of it working
[06:04] <_smd_> ecobuntu: my parents got mad i never called them becuase I was shovelling for 3 hrs!'
[06:04] <maddash> misfit_toy, cafuego: normally, I'd try it myself instead of asking, but how do I get back to gnome?
[06:04] <ecobuntu> wow!
[06:04] <cafuego> maddash: alt-F7
[06:04] <ecobuntu> how much snow?
[06:04] <misfit_toy> maddash, alt-f7
[06:05] <ecobuntu> 25 cm?
[06:05] <dabaR> firestone: what email client?
[06:05] <blanky> how can I make it so my KDE desktop makes me double click instead of single click on things
[06:05] <dabaR> blanky: /j #kubuntu
[06:05] <ecobuntu> blanky: ask #kubuntu
[06:05] <ecobuntu> they'll know
[06:05] <cafuego> blanky: That's perhaps more of a #kubuntu question.
[06:05] <blanky> oh, right, sorry
[06:05] <ecobuntu> np
[06:05] <_smd_> ecobuntu: too much still not done. waiting for some little kid to come do it for me for some $ i gave up and went for supp[er
[06:05] <ecobuntu> it's prefectly fine to ask a kubuntu question here
[06:05] <Sedge> well, i'm gonna watch some of My name is earl, thx for all those who helped ;) i'm sure i'll be back with more questions later
[06:06] <maddash> cafuego, misfit_toy: thanks, both of you
[06:06] <ecobuntu> wow you shoveled your driveway and it took 3 hours and you didn't finish?
[06:06] <cafuego> ecobuntu: People here are far less likely to be running KDE.
[06:06] <dabaR> _smd_: ok, well, do you want to reinstall on your own?:-/ You could. You will need a blank CD, though.
[06:06] <nemik> so any way to use cron to lock my screen at a certain time?
[06:07] <blanky> kubuntu is sleeping :'(
[06:07] <_smd_> _smd_: i lack confidence now since i get a cap 3 tommorow
[06:07] <dabaR> nemik: did you read the info or man pages?
[06:07] <jgrieves> if my TV tuner card id detected to the point it is picking up the correct name, waht are the chances of it working
[06:07] <fluvvell> bah!  Anybody use cdrecord here?  I can't get to grips with the device options in ubuntu
[06:07] <dabaR> _smd_: dont talk to yourself;P
[06:07] <nemik> dabar: yes i think i am doing it right
[06:07] <cafuego> blanky: More likely fixing problems with their kde install ;-)
[06:07] <blanky> haha
[06:07] <_smd_> dabaR: I do have blank cd's
[06:08] <ecobuntu> cafeugo: true but if it's a general ubuntu question and not related to KDE software we're as knowledgeable as them
[06:08] <_smd_> _smd_ : would prefer you to do it :p
[06:08] <fluvvell> cdrecord -scanbus give nothing of any use.  Anybody know anything about cdrecord?
[06:08] <nemik> dabaR: i created a lock file that has xscreensaver-command -lock in it. it works fine when i do 'bash lock' in a terminal, but now when i crontab -e it. am i doing something wrong?
[06:08] <ecobuntu> cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI
[06:08] <cafuego> ecobuntu: Yes, which the above one wasn't.
[06:08] <dabaR> _smd_: ya? well, you can then download breezy, if you will... http://gulus.usherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/ubuntu/iso/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso.torrent
[06:08] <_smd_> haha dabaR: Iwould prefer you to do it not _smd_
[06:09] <ecobuntu> i know i recommended him to go to kubuntu too
[06:09] <glick> i wonder if gaim will ever support voice chat
[06:09] <fluvvell> ecobuntu:  thanks heaps, why couldn't I find that somewhere?
[06:09] <ecobuntu> it worked?
[06:09] <ecobuntu> when you run cdrecord
[06:09] <ecobuntu> you need to
[06:10] <dabaR> glick: very much dependent on whether the protocols are free.
[06:10] <nemik> so any help why a crontab won't work but the script it is calling does work?
[06:10] <ecobuntu> cdrecord dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 file (switch the zeros for where your drive is)
[06:10] <glick> dabaR, so come up with your own protocols
[06:10] <stfn> glick, maybe if this is merged (says in the FAQ they'd like to) http://www.phonegaim.com/
[06:11] <dabaR> glick: and then who can communicate using them? me and you.
[06:11] <blanky> okay, in KDE, my screensaver chooser, i choose solar winds (GL) and in the preview it's fine, when I test it it lags, my GL drivers are installed
[06:11] <blanky> er, wrong place
[06:11] <glick> dabaR, if its an open protocol and becomes standardized then anyone using gaim i suppose
[06:11] <blanky> but then again kubuntu is taking a nap
[06:11] <glick> gaim is available for many platforms
[06:11] <ecobuntu> blanky: kubuntu never seems to have as many people as ubuntu
[06:12] <blanky> the people are there
[06:12] <blanky> ...or not there... *rubs chins*
[06:12] <blanky> ROFL, chins, sounds like I have 3 chins
[06:13] <blanky> ...when in fact I have 7
[06:13] <seymour> I am having some trouble getting evolution emailer to update my gmail account.  Everytime I load it up it starts to do it and then quickly cuts out of the connecting to smtp box.
[06:13] <dabaR> haha
[06:13] <dabaR> lol
[06:13] <seymour> not sure what it is but havent gotten any new incoming mail since oct
[06:13] <ecobuntu> you have 7 chins?
[06:13] <ecobuntu> that's sad
[06:13] <ubuntu_> question: I have tried ubuntu on two similar computers, set up the same way on the same network. one of the recognises the router reliably, the other doesnt
[06:14] <ubuntu_> anyone have any resources i can look up to try and fix this?
[06:14] <dabaR> seymour: check your account... make sure all the settings are right. gmail has an faq about the proper settings, you can use google to find it. something like gmail mail server settings
[06:14] <ecobuntu> same router?
[06:14] <ubuntu_> ecobuntu: yes
[06:14] <ecobuntu> or better yet same ethernet controllers?
[06:14] <_smd_> dabaR: you will have to do it I cannot save it to a blank cd:( so sad...
[06:14] <fluvvell> ecobuntu: I'm trying to use cdrecord with webmin, so I have a bit more to work out, but at least with the option you gave me I get a familiar response.
[06:14] <ubuntu_> ecobuntu: lost me on that, not sure if the network cards are identical
[06:14] <fluvvell> so thanks
[06:14] <ecobuntu> good
[06:14] <bnD> is limewire included typically in apt?
[06:14] <DShepherd> hey
[06:14] <glick> why doesnt IBM make a enterprise linux
[06:14] <dabaR> _smd_: ok, if I have to...;)
[06:14] <ecobuntu> ubuntu: that might be your problem
[06:15] <dabaR> bnD: no, never.
[06:15] <DShepherd> bnD: not that I know of..I had to go to the site and download it
[06:15] <Qiang> question:  my ubuntu seems to make some sound (not noise ) occassionally. and look like it has something to do with network (such as the network connectivity icon flashs) what is the sound?
[06:15] <dabaR> ubuntu_: tell bnD about limewire
[06:15] <bnD> i have a limewire icon under internet applications, however it doesnt load, and apt-get install limewire doesnt find a package
[06:15] <_smd_> dabaR: it is a must
[06:15] <ubuntu_> ecobuntu: do I need new network drivers?
[06:15] <bnD> dabaR: did it come with hoary?
[06:15] <seymour> I did that when i first installed.  I got the one update on my email account... did google change something?
[06:15] <_smd_> dabaR:;)
[06:15] <bnD> it could be leftover
[06:15] <dabaR> bnD: no, there is no limewire in any repository.
[06:15] <bnD> perhaps
[06:15] <ecobuntu> ubuntu: what's dmesg say about network drivers?  run dmesg at a terminal
[06:15] <ubuntu_> ecobuntu: I'll check
[06:16] <dabaR> ecobuntu: you're off on a wrong track imo.
[06:16] <ecobuntu> dabaR: what do you think?
[06:16] <bnD> hrm, could have sworn it came with hoary, i must have compiled it, ill go grab again, thanks dabaR
[06:16] <seymour> are there any better email programs that are better than evo.?
[06:16] <ubuntu_> ecobuntu: about 3 pages from dmesg
[06:16] <dabaR> ecobuntu: I think on the computer that does not connect he should look into the interfaces file.
[06:17] <dabaR> seymour: no, google likely did not, but sometimes little things get changed in the account, just recheck it.
[06:17] <ecobuntu> what's ifconfig say?
[06:17] <ubuntu_> ecobuntu: "no 1pv6 routers present, disabling interface"
[06:17] <xkahn> Hey all.  Is there a place where more recent packages are available?  Say...  Pre-Drake stuff?
[06:17] <xkahn> I'm starting to run into stuff I need more recent versions of.
[06:17] <xkahn> Like tomboy.
[06:17] <dabaR> xkahn: the backports are now available for breezy.
[06:17] <necator> hey guys im trying to add my printer but i did system > admin > printing > then in the wizard it shows my printer is detected but my specific model does not show up in the model list on the wizard so what do i do?
[06:17] <blanky> how can I mount (in KDE) my windows hard drive (hda1), it says it cant find it in fstab or whatever
[06:17] <hectorC> hello, anyone here could help me with using my Palm Zire 31 and Ubuntu? How can I transfer pdf files to use with the palm acrobat reader?
[06:17] <bnD> DShepherd: did you install from source? (limewire)
[06:18] <ubuntu_> ecobuntu: yet this computer, plugged into a different port on the router, works fine
[06:18] <dabaR> ubuntu_: tell blanky about ntfs
[06:18] <dabaR> bnD: read your private message from ubotu.
[06:18] <bnD> dabaR: i didnt receive one
[06:18] <ubuntu_> ecobuntu: both of them worked fine under windows, but other problems are causing us to switch
[06:18] <bnD> you said ubuntu_ rather than uboto
[06:18] <blanky> dabaR: isn't it ubotu
[06:18] <bnD> ;)
[06:18] <dabaR> why is that bot ignoring me...:)
[06:18] <xkahn> dabaR: Excellent.  I think.  :)
[06:18] <xkahn> dabaR: Where are they?
[06:18] <blanky> dabaR: he's called ubotu! :D
[06:18] <dabaR> ubotu: tell blanky about ntfs
[06:18] <DShepherd> bnD: nope just download the tar and ran it from that folder
[06:18] <jgrieves> ubotu tell jgrieves about mythtv
[06:18] <blanky> :)
[06:18] <necator> can someone help me with my printer problem?
[06:18] <bnD> dabaR: would you mind telling me again?
[06:18] <jgrieves> poo
[06:19] <bnD> DShepherd: thanks ;)
[06:19] <jayrod> hi, this is just for verfication ... my box went down like in aug. and was repeatingly telling me that it could not find the harddrive and all output wouldn't work (obviously) ... now it works again with no problems, i looked in the lastlog from the last day before it crashed and it said 'crash' in it ... probably obvious, but this is a good sign that the box did indeed just crash and didn't get owned, correct?
[06:19] <blanky> thaaanks! :)
[06:19] <jgrieves> ubotu tell jgrieves about MythTV
[06:19] <Xenguy> !printer
[06:19] <ubotu> printer is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[06:19] <jayrod> i looked through it, and saw no signs ... thankfully ... but just making sure.
[06:19] <bnD> ubotu tell me about limewire ;(
[06:19] <necator> hey guys im trying to add my printer but i did system > admin > printing > then in the wizard it shows my printer is detected but my specific model does not show up in the model list on the wizard so what do i do?
[06:19] <bnD> woops smiley
[06:19] <bnD> ubotu tell me about limewire
[06:19] <DShepherd> necator: trying choosing a driver that's close to it
[06:20] <ubuntu_> ubotu: tell me about networking
[06:20] <xkahn> dabaR: the topic mentions them, but doesn't tell me where I can find them.
[06:20] <dabaR> ubotu: tell xkahn about backports
[06:20] <DShepherd> necator: a model that is...
[06:20] <ubuntu_> ubotu: tell me about eth0
[06:20] <dabaR> ubuntu_: stop, please.
[06:20] <xkahn> dabaR: Excellent
[06:21] <dabaR> ubuntu_: would you like me to try helping you with the connection issue now?
[06:21] <nemik> so is there any way for a crontab to start a screensaver?
[06:22] <dabaR> nemik: I dont think your conclusion follows, more likely people currently on this channel never needed to do that.
[06:22] <ubuntu_> dabar: yes please
[06:22] <nemik> dabaR: just asking if it is possible and how to do it. google has nothing on it
[06:22] <Phin> apt-get install swat and then editing the /etc/services and /etc/inetd.conf file are not getting swat up and running.  anyone have a clue on this?  it's driving me nuts
[06:23] <darksoul> can anyone tell me how to change my res..
[06:23] <darksoul> NoUse: you still here
[06:23] <kestas> man xrandr
[06:23] <dabaR> ubuntu_: well, to paste large amounts of text, use paste.ubuntulinux.nl and... run sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces, in a terminal, show me the file. Also, when I say show, I mean paste to that web site.
[06:23] <kestas> or man xorg.conf
[06:23] <dabaR> ubotu: tell darksoul about fixres
[06:24] <bnD> darksoul: system/preferences/screen res
[06:24] <ubuntu_> dabar: difficult - no connection to the internet on that computer because it can't find the router
[06:24] <blanky> hey, about the NTFS wiki thing, I got this
[06:24] <blanky> error: libhal_device_get_property_type: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_3_1
[06:24] <Phin> anyone using swat that might have seen this?  lynx localhost:901 gives me a Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host.
[06:24] <bnD> blanky: post to the site, or post to #flood
[06:24] <dabaR> ubuntu_: well, usb stick, floppy, RW, or type.
[06:24] <blanky> bnD: huh?
[06:25] <bnD> nevermind
[06:25] <blanky> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions ?
[06:25] <dabaR> blanky: post the entire error to paste.ubuntulinux.nl, and tell us what exactly you are doing to mount the drive, so we know.
[06:26] <blanky> but...that is the entire error
[06:26] <blanky> I'm just running that script on the page
[06:26] <blanky> my windows hard drive is hda1
[06:26] <dabaR> blanky: you ran the script as root?
[06:26] <blanky> yep
[06:27] <bungle> erk my windows drive was already mounted
[06:27] <dabaR> blanky: and, its not mounted?
[06:27] <blanky> bungle: lucky :(
[06:27] <blanky> dabaR: nope :(
[06:27] <dabaR> blanky: what hd** is the partition again?
[06:27] <heinzanova> how do I do a full format of /dev/hdd and mount it as /media from command, since the disk manager, doesnt seem to really format it that well
[06:28] <blanky> hda1
[06:28] <dabaR> heinzanova: why format, is it another filesystem at this time?
[06:28] <ubuntu_> dabaR: ok, i have copied it using my username from here
[06:28] <dabaR> blanky: where are you trying to mount it, what folder?
[06:28] <cdubya> how can you setup wpa on ubuntu?
[06:29] <blanky> anywhere
[06:29] <blanky> :|
[06:29] <heinzanova> dabaR, I want to set up my 300GB as FAT32 so win or lin could write and read from it, and currently the quick format thing it did with vfat is unreadable/mapabple in  win
[06:29] <xkahn> The newest version of tomboy isn't in the backports.
[06:29] <stfn> nemik: I put "26 * * * * xscreensaver-command -lock" in my crontab and it locked my screen on the 26 minute of this hour.  Make sure you're editing the crontab of the user you're logged in as (not the system crontab)
[06:30] <blanky> anyone? :(
[06:30] <bungle> blanky, mount -t device directory
[06:30] <dabaR> heinzanova: there is a command line program called cfdisk, that formats, but be careful, you dont want to lose all your data(its not too hard)
[06:30] <blanky> I just wanna mount my windows hda1 anywhere
[06:30] <blanky> yeah but it says it can't find it
[06:30] <xkahn> ARGH.  It IS.
[06:30] <xkahn> I just screwed something up, it seems.
[06:30] <heinzanova> dabar there is no data on hdd
[06:30] <blanky> no wait, I typed that, and it didn't say anything
[06:30] <blanky> where did it mount it
[06:31] <dabaR> blanky: sudo mkdir /mnt && sudo mkdir /mnt/win && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win -o users
[06:31] <blanky> nevermind it works! :D
[06:31] <bungle> miricle
[06:31] <bungle> lol
[06:32] <bungle> another act of linux
[06:32] <siriuskr> why doesnt real player show up in my SPM APT???
[06:33] <dabaR> siriuskr: what is spm apt?
[06:33] <phil_> how  to play flash?
[06:33] <c0al> can transset be set so that whenever a window is "out of focus" it has a transparency automatically ?
[06:33] <siriuskr> synaptic
[06:33] <dabaR> ubotu: tell phil_ about flash
[06:34] <IcemanV9> realplayer IS in breezy/multiverse
[06:34] <siriuskr> k
[06:34] <dabaR> siriuskr: there is a real player 8 in multiverse, and a realplayer 10 on their website, for the latter, you also need to install libstdc++5
[06:34] <ubuntu_> dabar: bump :)
[06:34] <phil_> Dose it have flash player?
[06:34] <xkahn> OH!
[06:34] <xkahn> The backports server is just all screwed up.
[06:35] <nemik> stfn: yes i am editing the correct crontab, but i put xscreensaver-command -lock in a shell script, then tried to do that with cron. that is what is not working
[06:35] <xkahn> It looks like the metadata is all... missing.
[06:35] <IcemanV9> yes, phil_
[06:35] <dabaR> ubuntu_: change the dxep to dhcp
[06:35] <dabaR> save, and then close. in the terminal, sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[06:36] <stfn> nemik: have you tried other trivial crontab entries, such as "touch ~/some.file" and they work?
[06:36] <dabaR> wth dxep?
[06:36] <Glassworks> i got a question about this os
[06:36] <Glassworks> if someone can help
[06:36] <OptiPlex> *cough*fxp0*cough*
[06:36] <dabaR> !helpme
[06:36] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:36] <Glassworks> heh
[06:37] <dabaR> Glassworks: just to get you started.
[06:37] <Glassworks> !helpme does this os support usr wireless cards
[06:37] <ubotu> Glassworks: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:37] <dabaR> usb?
[06:37] <Glassworks> no
[06:37] <ubuntu_> dabar: sorry, mistyped that - it was dhcp
[06:37] <Glassworks> its a card
[06:37] <OptiPlex> !helpme
[06:37] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:38] <asad> hi, i how do i open up /usr/lib/win32 with permissions to add files to that folder?
[06:38] <OptiPlex> ownage
[06:38] <blanky> LOL
[06:38] <blanky> nice one optiplex
[06:38] <maddash> lol
[06:38] <blanky> i wont say anything though cause last time I did i got banned :'(
[06:38] <maddash> how did that work out?
[06:38] <bimberi> Glassworks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[06:38] <OptiPlex> !helpme ubuntu and ppc
[06:38] <ubotu> OptiPlex: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:39] <OptiPlex> that depends :[
[06:39] <dabaR> ubuntu_: does ifconfig on that computer show an IP address in the inet addr: field of eth0?
[06:39] <nemik> stfn: i got it
[06:39] <blanky> haha
[06:39] <blanky> optiplex, I got banned last time for simply helping someone, they thought I was playing with ubotu :(
[06:40] <OptiPlex> heh, i just learned how to do that i feel 1337
[06:40] <nemik> stfn: problem was, i was doing '26 * * * * nemik xscreensaver-command -lock' since nemik is my username
[06:40] <ubuntu_> ifconfig doesnt show an entry for eth0 because it is currently disabled - enabling it doesn't get me anywhere since it fails to find a dhcp router
[06:40] <nemik> stfn: thank you very much for your help :)
[06:40] <blanky> noooo! *crying*
[06:40] <dabaR> ubuntu_: something is wrong with that router.
[06:40] <blanky> My sig is - 'if you think my name is cute, you're queer!'
[06:40] <ubuntu_> well the router has no problems with this computer connecting through it
[06:40] <dabaR> ubuntu_: does the interfaces file look the same on both computers?:P
[06:41] <ubuntu_> or with windows connecting through it a few hours earlier
[06:41] <blanky> how do i change themes in kde
[06:41] <cafuego> blanky: Try #kubuntu
[06:41] <OptiPlex> blanky: control center
[06:41] <dabaR> ubuntu_: same computer with windows works, you said?
[06:41] <OptiPlex> on the K menu :] 
[06:41] <ubuntu_> yes
[06:41] <OptiPlex> or Kontrol, KDE is too weird for me
[06:41] <blanky> KUBUNTU IS FRICKIN DEAD
[06:41] <cafuego> blanky: Please don't use capslock.
[06:41] <blanky> where in Kcontrol
[06:42] <blanky> sorry *crying*
[06:42] <dabaR> !shout
[06:42] <ubotu> methinks shout is WE CAN READ LOWER CASE!
[06:42] <siriuskr> in ubuntu whats the command to install a rpm package ?
[06:42] <blanky> i found it! :D
[06:42] <OptiPlex> lol
[06:42] <jgrieves> ivtv is down :(
[06:42] <root___> what console firewall for ubuntu do you guys recommend?
[06:42] <Xenguy> siriuskr: you don't want to =)
[06:42] <cafuego> siriuskr: None. Convert it to .deb via 'alien'.
[06:42] <blanky> siriuskr: first do sudo apt-get install alien
[06:42] <OptiPlex> alien -i <package>.rpm
[06:42] <Xenguy> root___: shorewall
[06:42] <blanky> siriuskr: then do sudo alien package.rpm
[06:42] <OptiPlex> im scared of rpms
[06:42] <root___> thanks
[06:42] <Xenguy> siriuskr: seriously, what app?
[06:42] <Xenguy> root___: yw
[06:42] <jgrieves> can anyone get me ivtv drivers
[06:42] <jgrieves> or mirror
[06:42] <siriuskr> realplayer 10
[06:42] <blanky> siriuskr: then do dpkg - i package.deb
[06:42] <DianWei> Ok weird question: every so often a mounted partition (fat 32) suddenly turns read only, why and what can I do?
[06:42] <blanky> xenguy did you see that! I'm right, right? I'm a big kid now!
[06:43] <dabaR> siriuskr: get a dev
[06:43] <Xenguy> siriuskr: I see what you mean
[06:43] <cafuego> root___: If you're on IRC as root, a firewall is the least of your problems ;-)
[06:43] <dabaR> deb or bin
[06:43] <ubuntu_> dabaR: the only diff between the files is that one has "auto eth0" and the other doesnt
[06:43] <Xenguy> heheh
[06:43] <blanky> sudo apt-get install alien; sudo alien package.rpm; sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[06:43] <blanky> man im good :D
[06:43] <ispiked> how hacked is the kernel that's distributed with 5.10?
[06:43] <dabaR> ubuntu_: make the one on the other computer say the same as the one on this one
[06:43] <OptiPlex> DianWei: I had that happen with a flash drive, just reboot and it should work i dunno
[06:43] <OptiPlex> i rebooted with the drive plugged in, and it was fine
[06:43] <siriuskr> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:44] <siriuskr> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[06:44] <siriuskr> srry
[06:44] <DianWei> Is that the only solution?
[06:44] <OptiPlex> well im sure there is a solution, but I gave up and a reboot worked lol
[06:44] <dabaR> DianWei: how do you mount?
[06:44] <ecobuntu> siriuskr: do you have two incidences of synaptic running?
[06:44] <DianWei> And if so, is thier any explanation, or reason.
[06:44] <blanky> Sriuskr: close synaptic windows and stop aptitude completely (dont download anything)
[06:44] <IcemanV9> siriuskr:  something is running .. shut it down :)
[06:44] <blanky> (from apt_
[06:44] <DianWei> Its in fstab.
[06:44] <siriuskr> i c
[06:44] <dabaR> DianWei: that is not a solution at all.
[06:45] <dabaR> DianWei: add umask=0000
[06:45] <ubuntu_> dabaR: ok, waiting for it to reboot now...
[06:45] <dabaR> ubuntu_: reboots are only needed for another kernel.
[06:45] <DianWei> umask=0000 instad of 0777
[06:45] <dabaR> DianWei: yes, that will do it.
[06:45] <DianWei> should that fix it?
[06:45] <EdLin> rebooting is a Windows solution to problems, not a Linux solution.
[06:45] <DianWei> ok i already forgot fstab is in etc/?
[06:45] <blanky> siriuskr: Was this review helpful? Click here to vote!
[06:45] <OptiPlex> my flash drive was hotplugged, so rebooting worked but I dunno I had another peripheral sharing the same device.
[06:46] <blanky> me too!
[06:46] <z3r0x> I have a problem with my usb to serial adapter -> drivers/usb/serial/mct_u232.c: MCT USB-RS232: unsupported baudrate request 0x0, using default of B96  somethimes it works..but not for long time                                         00
[06:46] <OptiPlex> the one time I rebooted this thing it fixed that silly read only problem. it worked 'THAT' time....
[06:46] <dabaR> umask - user mask, will set what permission are removed, so you effectively removed read, write, and execute permissions with 777 and 000 will remove no permissions.
[06:47] <DianWei> ya, but I forgot where the file is *embarrased*
[06:47] <DianWei> its in etc/something right?
[06:47] <OptiPlex> /etc/fstab?
[06:47] <DianWei> thats it?
[06:47] <OptiPlex> i dunno :[
[06:48] <OptiPlex> that's where fstab is, dunno which file you need
[06:48] <blanky> it's finny cuase kde has more support i think, but not in ubuntu! *points and laughs*
[06:48] <blanky> im starting to like kde
[06:48] <blanky> too
[06:48] <blanky> I like gnome's simplicity though
[06:48] <Warter> what is the command to open files from your cd drive?
[06:48] <blanky> open?
[06:48] <dducko> Is it in your places?
[06:48] <OptiPlex> i like kde on freebsd
[06:48] <dabaR> DianWei: yes, that is where the file is.
[06:48] <DianWei> Ok, it says umask=000 but it should be 0000?
[06:48] <blanky> is it/media/cdrom/file ?
[06:49] <blanky> okay im out
[06:49] <blanky> C YA
[06:49] <blanky> guys -_-
[06:49] <blanky> :D
[06:49] <blanky> so right now gnome is more stable than kde in ubuntu
[06:49] <OptiPlex> i would use kubuntu, but i dont think they will send those with shipit
[06:49] <blanky> I hope that they fix this soon, go cannonical!
[06:49] <maddash> anyone have some trouble with xmms?
[06:49] <blanky> nah
[06:49] <dducko> No, whats happening?
[06:49] <dabaR> maddash: what trouble, haha, some trouble.
[06:49] <blanky> hey dducko!
[06:49] <OptiPlex> peace blanky
[06:49] <blanky> :)
[06:49] <maddash> namely, xmms sometimes refuses to play, offering, "Check that sound is properly configured"?
[06:49] <blanky> c ya OptiPlex!
[06:50] <dabaR> maddash: you dont have esd running in those cases.
[06:50] <blanky> bye guys! :)
[06:50] <dducko> Yes, actually yeah that is happening to me,
[06:50] <dducko> Says something about audio in use?
[06:50] <OptiPlex> im confused... WHICH player doesn't put a 2 second pre-gap between mp3s?
[06:50] <DianWei> it still says read only :( do i need to completely reboot?
[06:50] <maddash> dabaR: actually, if I restart the xmms several times, it works - but how do I stop the error from appearing?
[06:50] <maddash> dducko: yeah, my problem
[06:50] <maddash> dducko: how did you solve it?
[06:51] <dducko> yeah, i hit play a few times and it works
[06:51] <dducko> havent solved it, hasnt annoyed me enough yet
[06:51] <dabaR> maddash: your esd is not running if it cant find the sound device. is the plugin set to esd?
[06:51] <dabaR> !xmms
[06:51] <ubotu> [xmms]  to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[06:51] <DianWei> i did sudo mount -a too
[06:51] <ubuntu_> dabaR: well, now a) ifconfig is showing eth0 information and b) the window manager no  longer starts
[06:51] <dabaR> DianWei: post your /etc/fstab file to paste.ubuntulinux.nl , please.
[06:52] <dabaR> ubuntu_: is the computer online?
[06:52] <dducko> thanks dabaR
[06:52] <siriuskr> okay where the heck does synaptic download packages too ?
[06:52] <ubuntu_> dabaR: no :(
[06:52] <dabaR> siriuskr: where you tell it to. /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:52] <ubuntu_> dabaR: ping: network unreachable
[06:52] <dabaR> ubuntu_: what IP is shown in eth0?
[06:52] <OptiPlex> omfg, there's a ppc port of freebsd
[06:52] <maddash> dabaR: under Preferences > Audio I/O Plugins, I have OSS Driver selected....
[06:52] <OptiPlex> DUAL BOOT! ;] 
[06:52] <DianWei> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4609 << this is the url i think.
[06:52] <dabaR> maddash: set it to esound. voila.
[06:52] <maddash> dabaR: ok got it thanks
[06:53] <maddash> dabaR: what about ALSA?
[06:53] <maddash> dabaR: I'm using breezy badger, btw
[06:53] <dabaR> maddash: what about alsa:)
[06:53] <dabaR> DianWei: try with this one: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4610
[06:54] <ubuntu_> dabaR: it has an inet6 address with lots of 'e' and 'f' 's in it, but not an inet address (or in other words, no ipv4 ip address)
[06:54] <siriuskr> no i ment where does it download the packages to the computer
[06:54] <blanky> i love the smell of shit in the morning
[06:54] <maddash> dabaR: oh. wait. never mind. thanks.
[06:54] <blanky> hey guys, I just love how ubuntu takes up little space
[06:54] <dabaR> ubuntu_: whats the file look like now, the interfaces? hopefully you can paste the one from this computer.
[06:54] <blanky> just thought I'd say that
[06:54] <blanky> my compliments to the chef!
[06:55] <xkahn> blanky: I disagree.  ;)
[06:56] <DianWei> i did sudo mount -a and it still says read only :(
[06:57] <blanky> xkahn: why
[06:57] <blanky> :'S
[06:57] <blanky> i feel horny to switch over to linux completely
[06:57] <xkahn> blanky: I'm mostly joking.  The point was I'm installing gigs and gigs of development packages.
[06:57] <blanky> lol
[06:57] <xkahn> blanky: which didn't get installed in the first place.
[06:58] <DianWei> Should restarting gnome or the whole os possibly fix it?
[06:58] <blanky> xkahn: cool, you a programmer?
[06:58] <blanky> wth!
[06:58] <NCLife> weeee
[06:58] <blanky> why is that happeneing!
[06:58] <xkahn> Well, I play one on TV.  It's been a while since that was my job.
[06:59] <blanky> what happened :'S
[06:59] <blanky> *sob*
[06:59] <xkahn> netsplit.
[06:59] <NCLife> :D
[06:59] <Shadowline> blanky: I hacked the internet
[06:59] <xkahn> two IRC servers lost contact with each other.
[06:59] <xkahn> brown.freenode.net and irc.freenode.net
[06:59] <blanky> Shadowline: cool, hack 127.0.0.1 for me! I've been trying to for months!
[06:59] <blanky> *points and laughs*
[06:59] <Shadowline> blanky: hahaha
[06:59] <blanky> that's funny xkahn
[07:00] <ookami> is there an application which will convert romanji to hiragana/katakana/kanji?
[07:00] <blanky> a suicide bomber, in the digital hood, a suicide flooder
[07:00] <blanky> join and go flood
[07:00] <blanky> looks like you need UNICODE
[07:00] <blanky> ecobuntu go bye bye :'(
[07:00] <blanky> well im out
[07:00] <blanky> bye bye
[07:00] <Victorjiang> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=3590&d=1132034495 is a structure chart of community drawn by me.Is it correct?
[07:01] <Victorjiang> in the webpage http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/council,it wrote:The Chairman of the Community Council is yet to be determined.Isn't sabdfl the chairman?
[07:01] <DShepherd> hdaddy: right click -- > properties --> open with.
[07:01] <hdaddy> i guess i am kew at this sutgg
[07:02] <DShepherd> hdaddy: right click -- > properties --> open with.
[07:02] <kdude> can somebody point me to an /etc/profile file please.. I messed up mine.. I did echo ****  > /etc/profile/ and not >> /etc/profile/
[07:02] <Victorjiang> in the webpage http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/council,it wrote:The Chairman of the Community Council is yet to be determined.Isn't sabdfl the chairman?
[07:02] <dabaR> hdaddy: ya, in the window that opens for you to browse your files, when you click on Places>Computer, find a file that is a movie, and do what DShepherd said.
[07:02] <dabaR> ubotu: tell Victorjiang about repeat
[07:03] <Victorjiang> maintainers may not be members?
[07:03] <dabaR> Victorjiang: if it says he is not, then he is not.
[07:03] <hdaddy> thanks
[07:03] <DShepherd> hdaddy: works?
[07:03] <ookami> anyone have a test file to check 5.1? audio file of some sort? im havving some odd issues here where speaker-test seems ok, but when playing media, its not quite right.
[07:03] <slew> hi, i am trying to install unreal tournament 2004 and there is a linux installer on the cdrom. i have tried sudo ./linux-installer.sh and #./linux-installer.sh and both say permission denied. how can i get this script to run?
[07:03] <hdaddy> yea
[07:04] <kevogod> sudo sh linux-installer.sh
[07:04] <DShepherd> hdaddy: kool. Happy movie watching :)
[07:04] <Victorjiang> thanks. http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=3590&d=1132034495 is a structure chart of community drawn by me.Is it correct?
[07:04] <slew> kevogod, you live up to your name once again, sir.
[07:04] !dmwaters:*! Hi all! looks like we've got some routing trouble between 2 major hubs. Got to love level3!
[07:04] <dabaR> Victorjiang: just to let you know, I have no idea what the community hierarchy looks like.
[07:05] <ubuntu_> dabaR: sorry - am back now. file is pasted
[07:05] <kevogod> slew, Yes, but you assume that your installation of UT2004 will go smoothly. :P
[07:05] <nemik> so where is xmms? i cannot find it doing a search for files?
[07:05] <slew> kevogod, i do assume too much. ;)
[07:06] <dabaR> nemik: in universe.
[07:06] <Warter> im very sorry you were saying?
[07:06] <Neurosis> I cant get into my Root anymore.  Whats wrong?
[07:06] <dabaR> nemik: or maybe not.
[07:06] <kevogod> slew, The installer on the UT2004 CD has a problem with mounts.
[07:06] <NoUse> kdude this is from debian but it should work http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4613
[07:06] <dabaR> ubotu: tell Warter about ndiswrapper
[07:06] <nemik> dabaR: i have it installed, just looking for the program itself....well maybe it is not necessary
[07:06] <ookami> is there a way to view applicatioons i have installed my SELF?
[07:06] <dabaR> nemik: what file, a program has many files.
[07:07] <slew> kevogod, so far its not letting me begin. looking for a place to install this thing
[07:07] <kdude> thanks.. NoUse:
[07:07] <nemik> dabaR: i figured out how to do the screensaver from cron, but now need to load a window of xmms from cron too. and that is not working despite my best efforts
[07:07] <dabaR> ookami: how did you install them, how do you want to "view" them?
[07:08] <dabaR> nemik: I saw you figured that one out, good work. xmms can be started from anywhere, it is in /usr/bin
[07:08] <ookami> I installed with synaptic, and also with sudo apt-get... i want to see all that i have installed using either method. Im trying to remove all audio/video applications to try and trouble shoot an issue im having.
[07:08] <slew> kevogod, have you installed this before?
[07:08] <kevogod> slew, Yes.
[07:08] <dabaR> ookami: what issue?
[07:09] <nemik> dabaR: i made a script called play. and put xmms %U in there. when i run it from terminal, it is perfect. but when i add it to a cron, nothing. i checked and permissions are set to execute and everything
[07:09] <slew> kevogod, did you need a link path?
[07:09] <kdude> bye NoUse: thanks again.
[07:09] <ookami> DVD's are not longer playing back properly... and im sure i removed the encryption when backing them up...
[07:09] <ookami> dabaR, they play the first part upto the menu, but when it switches to the movie, it closes.
[07:09] <kevogod> slew, You mean did I need to choose a place to install it?
[07:10] <dabaR> ookami: sudo aptitude search a | grep ^i will show you all installed applications that have the letter a in their package name.
[07:10] <kevogod> It should be something like /usr/local/games/ut2004 or something like that
[07:10] <ookami> thanks dabaR. i'll try that
[07:10] <dabaR> ubotu: tell ookami about dvd
[07:10] <slew> kevogod, no, it wants an install path [/home/slew/ut2004]  and under that it asks for a link path. do i need a link path? or could i just create a link later if i need one?
[07:11] <kevogod> slew, Just create one later.
[07:11] <slew> kevogod, k, ill do that. thanks! wish me luck..
[07:12] <dabaR> peh
[07:12] <ookami> is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl down ?
[07:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know where the settings files are located that specify the default properties (theme, et al) for a new user when he first logs in?  no, i'm not talking about skel.
[07:13] <dabaR> ookami: off and on, yes. at this time, yes.
[07:13] <ookami> ok
[07:13] <snorks> How do I get File Roller to extract .rars?
[07:14] <slew> kevogod, hehe already has problems. wants me to mount cd 2 but cdrom wont eject. =[
[07:14] <dabaR> snorks: install rar from multiverse maybe.
[07:14] <ookami> dabaR, is there an alternate source from which i may obtain libdvdcss2 ?
[07:14] <Lathiat> snorks: install unrar-nonfree from multiverse
[07:14] <dabaR> ookami: I would wait for a while, then see.
[07:15] <kevogod> slew, Yup.
[07:15] <ookami> ok
[07:15] <kelbizzle> Does anyone have any free time?
[07:15] <dabaR> no
[07:15] <kelbizzle> :-/
[07:15] <slew> kevogod, hehe wont let me unmount it, device busy. anyway around this?
[07:15] <dabaR> kelbizzle: just ask.
[07:15] <kevogod> slew, Yup, there is.
[07:16] <kelbizzle> But I have tons of questions and all I want to do is get xmms installed
[07:16] <dabaR> kelbizzle: sudo aptitude install xmms
[07:16] <slew> kevogod, umount /device/media/cdrom0 dosent work. whats your suggestion?
[07:16] <dabaR> !xmms
[07:16] <ubotu> xmms is, like, to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[07:16] <kevogod> sudo umount
[07:16] <kevogod> -f
[07:17] <ddew|bofh> Hi, I'm looking for ppc64 geeks, any around?
[07:17] <slew> naw dosent work
[07:17] <kevogod> I forget how I did it
[07:17] <ddew|bofh> I'm having problemss with intermittent lockups and I'm starting to suspect either overheating or bad ram
[07:18] <maddash> is there any way of removing rhythmbox w/o hurting ubuntu-desktop?
[07:18] <Lathiat> maddash: no
[07:18] <kelbizzle> Reading package lists... Done
[07:18] <kelbizzle> Building dependency tree
[07:18] <kelbizzle> Reading extended state information
[07:18] <kelbizzle> Initializing package states... Done
[07:18] <kelbizzle> was that it?
[07:18] <Lathiat> maddash: removign ubuntu-desktop isn't totally bad (it doesn't break anything) but it may make future upgrades not work correctly
[07:18] <OptiPlex> just -- dont use rhythmbox :] 
[07:18] <dabaR> !paste
[07:18] <Lathiat> maddash: Is there any reason you need to remove it?
[07:18] <ubotu> rumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[07:19] <maddash> Lathiat: I don't like it; it takes up space and i don't use it
[07:19] <dabaR> kelbizzle: add universe to your repos
[07:19] <ilba7r> hi i am formating my new notebook now to install ubuntu on it. I will have a window partition and was wondering how well NTFS files are supported now or should I just format it in FAT
[07:19] <dabaR> !repos
[07:19] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[07:19] <Lathiat> maddash: it hardly takes up much space :)
[07:19] <maddash> Lathiat: worse comes to worse, could I reinstall ubuntu-desktop?
[07:19] <Lathiat> maddash: and if your on a space saving rampage then far more things will get rid of ubuntu-desktop so
[07:19] <dabaR> ilba7r: you will be able to write to fat, and not to ntfs from linux.
[07:19] <Arkainium> maddash, you can remove it cosmetically by editing the menu.
[07:19] <Lathiat> maddash: if you really want to get rid of it, remove ubuntu-desktop, butif you upgrade ot the next version i suggest you install it again
[07:19] <kelbizzle>  add universe to your repos??
[07:20] <dabaR> maddash: ubuntu-desktop is safely removable, and is a metapackage - a list of other packages through dependencies.
[07:20] <dabaR> kelbizzle: read what ubotu said about repos
[07:20] <ilba7r> dabar I do not have a problem with that I have a driver that can read ext3 from window so I might use it to read files from linux
[07:20] <kelbizzle> oh ok thought soo. I started to
[07:20] <kelbizzle> gimme a sec
[07:20] <maddash> Lathiat: by "upgrade to the next version", you mean, upgrading to Dapper Drake? Or installing the updates that Synaptic constantly bugs me about
[07:20] <dabaR> ilba7r: that is your only choice as to the file system. install windows, then ubuntu, make sure you choose to edit the partition tables manually.
[07:21] <slew> anyone know how to force the cdrom to eject a cd when the error message is 'device busy?'
[07:21] <dabaR> maddash: the former.
[07:21] <ilba7r> ok thanx dabaR take care
[07:21] <kubuntu_guy> slew try to eject it manually it happen with me
[07:21] <Lathiat> slew: well, close everythign using it :)
[07:21] <ookami> all fixed :) 5.1 surround seems to be working just fine now,.
[07:21] <maddash> dabaR: gotcha. sounds great. thanks.
[07:21] <Lathiat> slew: i have a command that might help hangon
[07:22] <Warter> can anyone tell me about booting from a firewire device?
[07:22] <slew> Lathiat, cant do that, im trying to install a program that needs multiple discs, and its ready for the next disc but wont eject
[07:22] <Lathiat> slew: ah interesting
[07:22] <slew> Lathiat, frustrating, really.
[07:22] <Lathiat> slew: yeh
[07:22] <pegasus> I am trying to use WebCollage on xscreensaver but is it one one of the available screen savers, but is is in /usr/lib/xscreensaver/ with the res of them
[07:22] <Lathiat> slew: what program?
[07:23] <slew> Lathiat, unreal tournament 2004 =] 
[07:23] <Lathiat> slew: heh
[07:23] <dabaR> Warter: yes, its likely impossible, it would be an option in your bios(usually hit del while booting, on dell computers sometimes hit f2, an onscreen instruction will tell you).
[07:23] <slew> yah
[07:23] <Lathiat> slew: get the dvd version :P
[07:23] <slew> no dvd player
[07:23] <slew> or burner for that matter
[07:23] <Lathiat> slew: what might work
[07:23] <Lathiat> slew: instead of cding onto the disk and..
[07:23] <Lathiat> hrm actually
[07:23] <Lathiat> yeh thats sucky
[07:23] <xinthea> anyone successfully running rosegarden?  it installs ok but just hangs when i try to launch it.
[07:24] <Lathiat> slew: copy the contents of the first disk off and run the installer from there :( heh
[07:24] <Lathiat> slew: biut difficult sorr
[07:24] <Lathiat> y
[07:24] <Lathiat> that is one issue that really needs to eb solved
[07:24] <slew> Lathiat, would be good, but theres like 6 cds
[07:24] <Lathiat> unfortunately its a harder problem than you might think
[07:24] <Lathiat> slew: just the first shoudl be enough
[07:24] <kevogod> Copy the installer from the CD to your hard drive.
[07:24] <Lathiat> slew: so your not runnign the installer off the CD, then it will eject
[07:24] <slew> jesseman_, im on buckeye too!
[07:24] <morphius> I'm trying to do a dual monitor set up. I'm pretty sure I have my xorg.conf settings correct, but I just can't get both displays working. I can get one, which is my secondary display, but not both. Does anyone have any Ideas why this might be happening. I can post my xorg.conf file if need be.
[07:25] <slew> ok.. will give it a shot. thanks..
[07:26] <dabaR> morphius: did you follow the wiki for your graphics card?
[07:26] <jesseman_> rofl slew, is that a script to?
[07:26] <jesseman_> slew: i mean is that a script to say hi to other nw ohioans?
[07:26] <slew> jesseman_, no, just lucky
[07:27] <morphius> ummm. probly. The first google hit I get for "xinerama" is it I believe. The how-to is pretty vague.
[07:27] <jesseman_> slew: ahahaha, cool cool, good to see another person from where i am in here, helping out with ubuntu :)
[07:27] <morphius> I have an NVidia Vanta (AGP) and a Cirrus (PCI) card.
[07:28] <slew> jesseman_, sadly, im here to receive help
[07:28] <slew> jesseman_, you going to the lug meeting saturday?
[07:28] <jesseman_> slew: have you gotten the help you need? whats a lug meeting?
[07:28] <dabaR> morphius: is it an nvidia, or ati graphs card, or something else?
[07:29] <dabaR> jesseman_: a Linux User Group meeting.
[07:29] <IcemanV9> slew:  fwiw, Lathiat's suggestion should get the installation going.
[07:29] <intelikey> lug = linux user group     kinda like  aa
[07:29] <slew> haha only you have to pay for the pizza
[07:29] <jesseman_> i had no idea there was such a thing ... where is it?
[07:29] <morphius> dabaR: one is an nvidia. Single output Vanta, AGP the other is a cirrus, single output PCI
[07:29] <slew> check your private messages
[07:29] <kevogod> intelikey, So trying to get people off Linux and use Windows?
[07:30] <OptiPlex> my name is opti, and Im a unixholic
[07:30] <OptiPlex> :[
[07:30] <dabaR> morphius: so you have 2 graphics cards, and want to connect one monitor to each?
[07:30] <intelikey> kevo not at all.   aa doesn't try to get people off whiskey and on beer
[07:30] <pramz> hello everyone :)
[07:30] <morphius> It's actually kind of weird because the terminal (f1-f6) are on the left monitor and gnome is on the right. When in terminals, I see the manufacturer info for the card.
[07:31] <morphius> yes that is correct
[07:31] <kevogod> intelikey, Well, alternatives are suggested.
[07:31] <Warter> i have that set up now on the windows side how do you set it up on this side?
[07:32] <kevogod> Beer and Linux don't mix.
[07:32] <jesseman_> yes they do, kevogod !
[07:32] <dabaR> Warter: which?
[07:32] <xinthea> anyone know of an IRC channel for music composition on linux?
[07:32] <kevogod> No, when you drink too much beer, you run as root.
[07:32] <kevogod> and then you have root beer
[07:32] <Warter> dabaR: two monitors in ubuntu
[07:32] <morphius> kevgod: linux is free as in beer.
[07:32] <OptiPlex> :[
[07:32] <jesseman_> kevogod: rofl!
[07:33] <Warter> scotch and linux mix well
[07:33] <kevogod> morphius, Yes, but not free WITH beer
[07:33] <kevogod> :-)
[07:33] <grizzli> join #annodex
[07:33] <dabaR> grizzli: why?
[07:33] <cafuego> grizzli: No, thanks.
[07:33] <ZzeCoOl> Hello Guys do you know any way to serch in many folders foer example *.ico files and then copy then all in one folder?
[07:33] <morphius> kevgod: Depends if it's BYOB:Bring your own beer
[07:33] <Warter> kegs and linux?
[07:33] <Steinbeck1> mmm....beer
[07:33] <intelikey> "honey i blew up the fonts"
[07:34] <grizzli> sorry i forgot the leading slash. bye!
[07:34] <morphius> OOOh kool casemod: A KEG PC!
[07:34] <kevogod> Ubuntu protects against the alcoholic by disabling root altogether.
[07:34] <dabaR> nice
[07:34] <OptiPlex> link me irl!
[07:34] <ZzeCoOl> Hello Guys do you know any way to search in many folders for example *.ico files and then copy them all in one folder?   (fixed)
[07:34] <jesseman_> hahahahahaha
[07:34] <datix> I am intereted in trying ubuntu, is there an install option for servers that won't install any X, or bascially anything related to GUI
[07:34] <OptiPlex> yeah datix
[07:34] <OptiPlex> at the boot prompt type : install server
[07:34] <OptiPlex> :] 
[07:35] <datix> seriously?
[07:35] <intelikey> kevo not that again, root is not "disabled" or you could configure NOTHING!
[07:35] <cafuego> just 'server'
[07:35] <OptiPlex> yep
[07:35] <morphius> datix: it tells you what to type at the isolinux prompt
[07:35] <OptiPlex>  heh
[07:35] <OptiPlex> i messed up
[07:35] <ZzeCoOl> any help for me guys?
[07:35] <OptiPlex> i was thinking server expert
[07:35] <cafuego> datix: No, leave off the 'install '
[07:35] <OptiPlex> lol
[07:35] <OptiPlex> :|
[07:35] <datix> thanks guys
[07:35] <datix> i'm going to get the ISO
[07:35] <cafuego> datix: it will give you  alist if you hit F3, I believe.
[07:35] <OptiPlex> i wish I was helpful heh
[07:35] <Warter> burn it first
[07:36] <cafuego> datix: Be SURE to not burn it at over 8X speed.
[07:36] <bnD> anyone know if there is an autosetup or gui setup for sensors? none of my laptops sensors are found, and its running REALLY hot
[07:36] <Warter> i burnt it at 32x
[07:36] <cafuego> bnD: sudo sensors-detect
[07:36] <Warter> and i havnt had a problem
[07:36] <morphius> any ideas for me dabR?
[07:36] <intelikey> ZzeCoOl: yes 'find <base-dir> -name *.icq '   and pipe it to a mv command
[07:36] <morphius> *dabaR
[07:37] <ZzeCoOl> ty
[07:37] <bnD> cafuego, thanks :)
[07:37] <IcemanV9> bnD:  if you want to know the temp immediately, then type 'acpi -tB'
[07:37] <intelikey> or cp command as case may be
[07:37] <dabaR> intelikey: cp is a filter?
[07:37] <kevogod> intelikey, sudo
[07:37] <Warter> you should get it away from your balls before you kill your swimmers
[07:37] <WhyvasLT> i  burnt it at 52x
[07:37] <WhyvasLT> worked fine.
[07:37] <choudesh> Anyone need a patch 2.6.13.1 SELinux Kernel?
[07:38] <bnD> :(
[07:38] <bnD> no sensors detected
[07:38] <intelikey> dabaR: ok plug it into in sted of pipe ;p
[07:38] <bnD> IcemanV9, thanks :)
[07:38] <bnD> i just need to get it to run cooler
[07:38] <bnD> runs much cooler in windoze
[07:38] <bnD> ow
[07:38] <OptiPlex> not d4 win!!!!
[07:39] <bnD> lol
[07:39] <bnD> no chips detected
[07:39] <bnD> fucking dell :)
[07:39] <OptiPlex> heh
[07:39] <Warter> theres your problem
[07:39] <WhyvasLT> install the dell package
[07:39] <bnD> dell package?
[07:39] <WhyvasLT> search synaptic for it
[07:39] <bnD> :O
[07:39] <OptiPlex> the only deel i've seen that wasn't a pile was an optiplex GXa
[07:40] <bnD> OptiPlex, im using a inspiron 9200.. faulty dvdburner, but other than that no probs
[07:40] <OptiPlex> that thing dualbooted rh7 and win2k with 64m of ram, thrashed the harddrive all day long but never blew up :] 
[07:40] <bnD> it was a gift ;)
[07:40] <cafuego> Not fast, but nice components, it sems.
[07:40] <John_Dunbar> ifconfig gives me eth0, but how do i tell it to obtain an IP from the DHCP server?
[07:40] <bnD> yeek
[07:40] <OptiPlex> seeya sucker!
[07:41] <bnD> lol
[07:41] <cafuego> OptiPlex: Haha, a Dell laptop. Who's the sucker now?
[07:41] <bnD> its almost 6 months old, its been replaced ;P
[07:41] <OptiPlex> :[
[07:41] <OptiPlex> my buddy keeps asking me for an xp pro bootleg for his dell laptop
[07:41] <cafuego> Not much point unless you also steal the extended warranty, which you WILL need.
[07:41] <bnD> OptiPlex, didnt it come with xp?
[07:41] <OptiPlex> I almost wanna 'fix' it for him and run away
[07:41] <bnD> lol
[07:41] <OptiPlex> lol
[07:41] <bnD> just hand him the ubuntu install disc with xp written on it
[07:42] <bnD> tell him its a new secret version
[07:42] <bnD> :)
[07:42] <bnD> better than the longhorn yo!
[07:42] <OptiPlex> heh 'top secret' langley,va version
[07:42] <OptiPlex> lol
[07:42] <devint> holy shit guys
[07:42] <devint> you will NOT believe this
[07:42] <bnD> devint,
[07:42] <bnD> ?
[07:42] <OptiPlex> my old teacher had an ALPHA of longhorn
[07:42] <choudesh> ?
[07:42] <OptiPlex> 1gb with 0% security
[07:42] <bnD> OptiPlex, i downloaded one a long time ago, it was scary
[07:42] <OptiPlex> required 512m of ram and was recommended 1gb of ram
[07:42] <bnD> nothing worked
[07:42] <bnD> lol
[07:42] <OptiPlex> wtf jabba the hutt OS
[07:42] <bnD> ms software pwns again
[07:43] <bnD> devint, dont leave me in the dark :O
[07:43] <devint> I installed ubuntu on my computer for the first time, and in the same day (today) installed it onto my dad's laptop and he is (was...?!??) an avid and rabid MS supporter...
[07:43] <intelikey> we sure don't devint
[07:43] <choudesh> Hmm, I didn't have the much of a problem with Longhorn betas.
[07:43] <Warter> hi
[07:43] <devint> I mean, he wouldn't even try out firefox before today
[07:43] <choudesh> Now dev on them was a bitch
[07:43] <bnD> devint, good job :)
[07:43] <dabaR> !swear
[07:43] <ubotu> I heard swear is please do not swear
[07:43] <cafuego> choudesh: I don't either, not since the 'mkfs -t ext3'
[07:44] <dabaR> devint: how is this supposed to make us not believe it?
[07:44] <choudesh> dabaR, no really, it was a female dog.
[07:44] <bnD> lol
[07:44] <bnD> well i apologize for my f bomb a few minutes ago :x
[07:44] <choudesh> dabaR, trust me, shared memory on Longhorn was like a spade female dog.
[07:44] <devint> dadR: you just don't know my dad...
[07:44] <devint> I've been using debian forever, but wow...ubuntu is really on to something
[07:45] <devint> I mean, the amd64 version of ubuntu gave me sooo much goddamn trouble with almost everything, but i just settled on i386 version and everything just works
[07:45] <OptiPlex> im considering a dangerous experimen
[07:45] <devint> so bomb
[07:45] <OptiPlex> dualbooting ubuntu/freebsd
[07:45] <OptiPlex> on ppc
[07:45] <kevogod> Blasphemy
[07:45] <bnD> devint, bomb as in diggity?
[07:45] <sethrd> Why would you do that?
[07:45] <devint> as in diggity, yes
[07:45] <bnD> ;)
[07:45] <OptiPlex> the ppc version of freebsd is considered experimental
[07:45] <IcemanV9> go 4 it, OptiPlex!!
[07:46] <OptiPlex> heh, im on dialup it would take me days to update with synaptic agai n
[07:46] <sethrd> Is it just me, or does everyone else get hard when they see http://openbsd.org/images/newrack.jpg ?
[07:47] <NoUse> sethrd wow, too much info :)
[07:47] <dabaR> its just you.
[07:47] <bnD> anyone recommend anything for me? sensors isnt detecting any chips :(
[07:47] <IcemanV9> well, bring it to the library and take advantage of their FREE wireless internet access :P
[07:47] <jbroome> it's just you
[07:47] <bnD> IcemanV9, im in my backyard stealing from the neighbors atm :)
[07:47] <sethrd> Oh, in that case, forget I said anything.
[07:47] <cafuego> bnD: Obtain a machine with supported sensors.
[07:47] <bnD> cafuego, :(
[07:48] <yetr2-wired> Having trouble installing the nvidia module on this machine. neither nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy have worked.
[07:48] <choudesh> sethrd, kickass hardware, crappy monitor
[07:48] <IcemanV9> lol, bnD .. me, too. *shrug*
[07:48] <sethrd> bnD: I did the same thing, using an 11b card on an 11g network. THey left router as default, so I logged in, and on accident, locked myself out by only allowing 11g access.
[07:48] <bnD> sethrd, lmao
[07:48] <sethrd> bnD: Gave me a good reason to finally get an 11g card though.
[07:48] <bnD> ill bet ;)
[07:48] <Warter>  sudo ndiswrapper -i autorun.inf gave me a no such file with the cd in the drive how do i tell what drive my cd is is that the "-i" part?
[07:48] <Warter> <<<noob
[07:49] <sethrd> choudesh: I wouldn't mind having that monitor if it meant having that hardware.
[07:49] <sethrd> That hardware gives it a new meaning to *hard*ware.
[07:49] <bnD> im logged into 'linksys' atm, talk about a secure router
[07:49] <sethrd> God, my wife really needs to start putting out more.
[07:49] <Warter> the cd drive
[07:49] <choudesh> sethrd, Think ubuntulinux needs to donate a nicer monitor to the openBSD folks
[07:49] <dabaR> Warter: you need to get the .inf file off the cd, the .inf file is the driver.
[07:49] <cafuego> Warter: it won't be the autorun.inf; most likely the actual driver is in a .cab file on that drive. You can extract those using 'cabextract'.
[07:49] <OptiPlex> hypothetical question: find a wireless card for an imac that works with ubuntu, build an antenna and wardrive someone 1000 yds. away who has cable?
[07:49] <bnD> sethrd, im sensing a lot of sexual frustration
[07:50] <sethrd> choudesh: I agree. I have an older 17: Compaq monitor that would go GREAT with those sun Blades...
[07:50] <sethrd> bnD: You have NO idea
[07:50] <dabaR> sethrd: I agree with NoUse on the amount of info.
[07:50] <HrdwrBoB> choudesh: meh, just servers and crap
[07:50] <John_Dunbar> ifconfig gives me eth0, but how do i tell it to obtain an IP from the DHCP server?
[07:50] <cafuego> OptiPlex: An Airport (original, 802.11b) will work fine.
[07:50] <Warter> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[07:50] <OptiPlex> but CAN it be DONE? :D
[07:50] <cafuego> OptiPlex: The AirportExtreme driver is in development.
[07:50] <Warter> says to use the inf file
[07:50] <choudesh> OptiPlex, Sure. Powered antenna. Make the cable yourself. Just a piggy cable.
[07:50] <cafuego> Warter: Yes, but the autorun.inf is NOT the one, that only tells windows what to run when the CD is inserted.
[07:51] <bnD> OptiPlex, when you get it done, send me the man :)
[07:51] <OptiPlex> heh
[07:51] <choudesh> OptiPlex, I would go with an directional rather than omnidirectional ant.
[07:51] <sethrd> Ya know what really irks me? That the 7500 Mobilty isn't supported by the ATI drivers, so now I have about a 1/2-1 second lag when moving windows.
[07:51] <WhyvasLT> John_Dunbar, dhclient3 eth0
[07:51] <Warter> i know what it is
[07:51] <Warter> i have no idea that this ndiswrapper bs wants to install this
[07:52] <cafuego> Warter: ndiswrapper is a dirty hck that loads windows binaries into the kernel.
[07:52] <OptiPlex> :] 
[07:52] <bnD> anyone point me to removing the old lines from grub? (after updating kernel)
[07:52] <jbroome> 2 xserves in that rack, nice
[07:52] <choudesh> Hmm, I think I hit the max uptime for my windowsXP box.
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[07:52] <jbroome> choudesh: 15 minutes? :)
[07:53] <choudesh> jbroome, 5 monthes.
[07:53] <sts_> mga gwapo
[07:53] <sts_> asa mn mo karon
[07:54] <IcemanV9> bnD:  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:54] <sts_> naa mn ko sa inyo nag tato ko di2
[07:54] <intelikey> hmmm xp up for 5months,   hmmm anyone touched it sense you turned it on ?
[07:55] <WhyvasLT> np
[07:55] <choudesh> intelikey, to be honest....I don't think.
[07:55] <intelikey> ;/
[07:56] <dabaR> bah he decremented
[07:56] <bnD> IcemanV9, thanks, i already got off my lazy ass and googled it :P
[07:56] <nemik> well i got my alarm clock working. can now run this in crontab: http://pastebin.com/431355 goodnight everyone!
[07:56] <bnD> ive got 12 percent battery remaining before i have to go inside, plug in the charger, and lose my neighbors connection :(
[07:57] <choudesh> bnD, Run an extension cord from your neighbor's. -.^
[07:57] <bnD> lol @ choudesh
[07:57] <choudesh> bnD, or wireless power.
[07:57] <bnD> i need to run something from their cable box while im at it too :)
[07:57] <choudesh> bnD, you know, throwing a battery across the room.
[07:58] <bnD> choudesh, ha
[07:58] <bnD> ive misplaced my backup battery i think
[07:58] <OptiPlex> lol this guy at our school emailed our netadmin instructor 'i have to leave now, its raining on my laptop'
[07:58] <choudesh> bnD, I am in college, so 50+ people on one cable line.
[07:58] <bnD> rofl
[07:58] <bnD> choudesh, i meant for my TV :)
[07:58] <choudesh> bnD, so do I.
[07:58] <bnD> rofl
[07:59] <choudesh> bnD, I would kill myself if I just had cable, let alone 50+ people on it.
[07:59] <bnD> eek, its blinking, time to go, night :)
[07:59] <bnD> ha @ dabaR
[07:59] <bnD> night guys
[07:59] <choudesh> g'night.
[08:00] <Warter> ok so i did the "sudo ndiswrapper -i tnet1130.inf" and i still got a no file
[08:00] <kelbizzle> ONe more question
[08:00] <darksoul> NoUse: remember that res problem? i couldent fix it
[08:01] <darksoul> NoUse: so i tried the Kubuntu X84 version.......and guess what res works fine..so wtf?
[08:01] <sethrd> Well, that helped a little I think.
[08:01] <Warter> im viewing the cd from file browser and i still cannot tell terminal where the file is
[08:02] <sethrd> Why is it that glxgears doesn't output the FPS?
[08:02] <kelbizzle> How do I install Java2TM Runtime Environment, v 1.4.2 or greater
[08:02] <dabaR> Warter: if the terminal wont go to the file, make the file go to the terminal
[08:02] <dabaR> ubotu: tell kelbizzle about ask the bot
[08:02] <dabaR> ubotu: tell kelbizzle about java
[08:03] <Warter> how would i go about doing that copying the file as data and burn to cd?
[08:03] <dabaR> why burn to cd? you want to copy from cd...
[08:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> what program do i use to set preferred application associations based on mime type?
[08:04] <Warter> what part of that command is telling the term what drive it is
[08:04] <kelbizzle> who's ask the bot?
[08:04] <kelbizzle> lemme at em
[08:05] <OptiPlex> !mime
[08:05] <dabaR> kelbizzle: rad private messages from ubotu:)
[08:05] <ubotu> OptiPlex: I give up, what is it?
[08:05] <OptiPlex> heh
[08:05] <Warter> dabaR
[08:05] <dabaR> BROKEN_LADDER: just right click on the file, go properties and open with tab in nautilus
[08:05] <glick> hey has anyone ever worked on a system powered by a transmetta chip?
[08:06] <dabaR> Warter: are you in ubuntu? do you have the cd in the drive? do you have a window open with the contents of the cd?
[08:06] <Warter> yes to all
[08:06] <dabaR> Warter: copy the file over to your home folder
[08:06] <Warter> ok
[08:06] <Warter> how do i open a new file browser?
[08:07] <dabaR> Places>Home
[08:07] <dabaR> ctrl+n
[08:08] <Warter> now do the  "sudo ndiswrapper -i tnet1130.inf" again
[08:09] <dabaR> ya, also, you can add ~/ in front of the file name to make sure
[08:10] <Warter> already installed
[08:10] <dabaR> ~/ is the home directory
[08:10] <Warter> sudo ndiswrapper -m?
[08:10] <dabaR> yo keikoz
[08:10] <datix> I just installed using server mode, and the install very minimal, just wondering what i have to install to be able to start compiling, is there an easy package to apt-get or so you have go and pick them out one at a time?
[08:11] <dabaR> !be
[08:11] <ubotu> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:11] <dabaR> datix: that^
[08:11] <OptiPlex> yeah :] 
[08:11] <datix> ok
[08:12] <aftertaf> lol he does now :=)
[08:12] <datix> one more stupid question, I downloaded the amd64 iso, do I have to used different sites in the source.list file?
[08:12] <datix> or are the defaults fine?
[08:12] <Warter> how do i view my ip adress lpci?
[08:12] <Warter> lspci?
[08:12] <cafuego> Warter: no, 'ifconfig'
[08:12] <cafuego> datix: No, the right arch is picked automagically.
[08:13] <IcemanV9> and 'iwconfig'
[08:13] <dabaR> datix: the ones that the installer sets up are fine.
[08:13] <_smd_> I have a question, if i find an image I like on the internet, and i rght click and go save as wallpaper, and nothing changes, and even if i save it, and then go save to wallpaper again, and it will not change,  is there a way to refresh my desktop?
[08:14] <maddash> anyone here using openbox?
[08:14] <dabaR> maddash: yes
[08:14] <maddash> dabaR: how's it look? is it faster than metacity?
[08:15] <dabaR> maddash: try
[08:15] <_smd_> but if i right click again and go.. change desktop background, and nothing still does not change.
[08:15] <dabaR> maddash: try. yes.
[08:15] <maddash> dabaR: I'm a bit afraid. Is it stable?
[08:15] <Warter> ok i added my inf to the boot order with  "sudo ndiswrapper -m" at this point i rebooted and it still did not load right on config network
[08:15] <IcemanV9> _smd_:  set as wallpaper OR save it to your /home/<user> and right-click on the desktop & select 'Change Desktop Background'
[08:16] <dabaR> maddash: completely. and, nothing to be scared of, you just install it, and then to change the wm, log out, and click on sessions, choose one, and then log in
[08:16] <dabaR> Warter: continue reading the wiki...
[08:16] <_smd_>  IcemanV9: tried never wored.
[08:16] <maddash> dabaR: sounds easy. how would I uninstall metacity, though?
[08:16] <_smd_> wored
[08:16] <dabaR> maddash: you would not.
[08:16] <maddash> dabaR: could I do it from synaptic/
[08:16] <darksoul> NoUse: you here
[08:17] <NoUse> darksoul yeah
[08:17] <maddash> dabaR: doesn't openbox replace metacity?
[08:17] <IcemanV9> _smd_:  well, then something ain't right
[08:17] <darksoul> NoUse: i couldent fix res
[08:17] <NoUse> darksoul didn't you say earlier that it works with x86?
[08:17] <darksoul> NoUse: so i installed kubuntu x86 version..and res works fine.. so wtf is the problem with 64bit?
[08:17] <_smd_> IcemanV9: i have been getting irate at my computer slightly lately
[08:17] <dabaR> maddash: you do not need to uninstall metacity. No, it is a different session. You can use it to replace metacity. maybe a good place to get some clues is the ubuntuforums.org. search for "sotrmyeyes openbox"
[08:18] <NoUse> darksoul probably ati drivers don't work with 64bit
[08:18] <darksoul> NoUse: yes..im just wondering why it wont work on 64bit lol
[08:18] <darksoul> NoUse: oh..damn lol
[08:18] <iluciv> Hi I need help with the the v4l cvs and ubuntu I need to know where to install the v4l cvs dir do I install this in the home dir or in the /usr/src/
[08:18] <IcemanV9> _smd_:  sorry about that. i lost a few hairs over mine as well. :)
[08:18] <darksoul> NoUse: time to check sound. btw what desktop do you use?
[08:18] <Warter> dabaR: how do i load this screen here it shows on the wiki
[08:18] <NoUse> darksoul gnome
[08:19] <dabaR> maddash: openbox is just a wm, like metacity, whereas gnome is a complete desktop environment.
[08:19] <darksoul> NoUse: why?
[08:19] <NoUse> darksoul I like it
[08:19] <_smd_>  IcemanV9: mabye if i type really mean to it it will listen :p
[08:19] <maddash> dabaR: so it's possible to replace metacity with openbox....
[08:19] <darksoul> NoUse: its ok..but i dont know what to do to change the desktop...kde...is OK...but it gets old really fast..to bad i cant go to gnome couse i wont have all the packages eh
[08:20] <dabaR> maddash: you can run openbox instead of metacity, or just by itself like I do. then you have a background, no icons, a right click menu(editable) and windows. thats it. iif you use teh scroll wheel on the window title bar, you get the wwindow to roll up(very useful imo)
[08:20] <NoUse> darksoul you can't change the desktop in gnome?
[08:20] <dabaR> maddash: yes, and search the wiki to find out how "stormyeyes openbox
[08:20] <darksoul> NoUse: oh i can. but none of the real gnome stuff will install, like sysmatic for one
[08:20] <IcemanV9> _smd_:  :)
[08:20] <maddash> dabaR: ah, ok....the first set of search terms you gave me returned nothing
[08:20] <dabaR> Warter: ask me again with different words, aka rephrase
[08:21] <Warter> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
[08:21] <jedrick> How can i add sound plugin?
[08:21] <NoUse> darksoul synaptic is installed by default
[08:21] <darksoul> NoUse: no its not
[08:21] <NoUse> darksoul or do you mean on kubuntu?
[08:21] <Warter> "Use the Networking tool to configure networking on the new interface, or edit /etc/network/interfaces by hand to your liking."
[08:21] <darksoul> NoUse: thats only on ubuntu, on kubuntu its not, and if i installed gnome-desktop only about 50% will be installed
[08:22] <darksoul> NoUse: btw whats a good media/movie player
[08:22] <dabaR> maddash: "stormy eyes openbox
[08:22] <OptiPlex> !totem
[08:22] <ubotu> OptiPlex: No idea
[08:22] <dabaR> "
[08:22] <Warter> i used the admin>networking tool and that did not work
[08:22] <NoUse> darksoul ubuntu-desktop, not gnome-desktop
[08:22] <pramz> darksoul, totem or mplayer
[08:22] <OptiPlex> stupid bot
[08:22] <maddash> dabaR: by, "just by itself like I do", are you referring to using openbox independently of GNOME itself/
[08:22] <darksoul> pramz: how would i get mplayer.
[08:22] <dabaR> maddash: yes, that is it.
[08:22] <darksoul> pramz: *slaps head* adapt..
[08:23] <dabaR> ubotu: tell darksoul about mplayer
[08:23] <dabaR> ubotu: tell darksoul about ask the bot
[08:23] <_smd_>  IcemanV9: being rude did not work either... i am stuck with some annoying fireworks i though were "neat" a week ago
[08:23] <IcemanV9> _smd_:  i just "set as wallpaper" and it worked.
[08:23] <darksoul> err is it normal to hear a "bumping" in your computer
[08:23] <maddash> dabaR: hmm. I didn't know that was possible. OpenBox alone runs faster for you than metacity + gnome, right?
[08:23] <OptiPlex> yeah
[08:23] <dabaR> OptiPlex: its only as stupid as the collective of the people on the channel...:P
[08:24] <dabaR> maddash: there is no comparison.
[08:24] <OptiPlex> sounds like someone hitting a rimshot
[08:24] <OptiPlex> !stupidbot
[08:24] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, OptiPlex
[08:24] <OptiPlex> see what i mean?
[08:24] <dabaR> ubotu: tell OptiPlex about msg the bot
[08:24] <dabaR> ubotu: tell OptiPlex about usage
[08:24] <Warter> dubar: i found the interface file should i edit the txt by hand to match the code on the wiki?
[08:24] <OptiPlex> :] 
[08:25] <dabaR> Warter: I think you need to modprobe, did you do that yet?
[08:25] <_smd_> IcemanV9: my computer has truly hated me lately, i finally got it to give me my 1280x1024 res back to me last night :(
[08:25] <Warter> sudo mdiswrapper -m right?
[08:25] <dabaR> Warter: as the wiki says...
[08:26] <IcemanV9> _smd_:  hoary or breezy? what the brand name of ur 'puter?
[08:26] <Warter> is that what that is?
[08:26] <_smd_> I think doing things about 10 times does the charm.....
[08:26] <_smd_>  breezy
[08:26] <NoUse> darksoul did you get my message about ubuntu-desktop?
[08:26] <_smd_> and hp
[08:26] <grace_> hey there, i m on breezy and need to know how to setup my dsl modem setup
[08:26] <darksoul> NoUse: yea ill try it after i conferm i have sound running lol
[08:27] <IcemanV9> _smd_: i just upgraded to breezy from hoary today. my lappy is HP.
[08:27] <sethrd> Haha. My mother-in-law stubbed her toe on my laptop charger. Haha.
[08:27] <dabaR> grace_: is it just a modem, or a router too? if jsut a modem, running: sudo pppoeconf in a terminal will do it.
[08:27] <grace_> well this box beside me is on breezy and I want to put it on this dsl modem
[08:27] <grace_> oh yeah
[08:27] <maddash> dabaR: nice guide on the keybindings  in openbox...I'm assuming that you're "stormy eyes"
[08:27] <Glossary> How can i install 3ddesk
[08:27] <Glossary> im getting vga errors
[08:27] <maddash> *
[08:27] <dabaR> maddash: wrongly so. I dont use the keybindings, maybe I should raed it.
[08:27] <grace_> can pppoeconf be set to auto detect if dhcp is present and if not then do pppoe connection
[08:28] <_smd_> i "think" i upgraded in octber....
[08:28] <_morphius> I am trying to set up dual monitors using xinerama. I have configured my xorg.conf file, and I can load gnome, however it only appears on the right (secondary) screen. At that time the right screen (primary, the one that has the boot information) shows the terminal login prompt. If I ctl+alt+f1-f6, I get the terminal on that screen. The right screen will blank an show the manufacturer information. Then when I ctl+alt+f7, the right screen will return t
[08:28] <grace_> ok in order to tell some old lady how to do it over the phone ....
[08:28] <grace_> is there some grpahic tool i can tell them to click on
[08:28] <_morphius> ... use ssh
[08:28] <darksoul> NoUse: sound works
[08:28] <Glossary> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:29] <Glossary> how can i fix this
[08:29] <darksoul> NoUse: but it sounds like a raido with all the fuzz lol
[08:29] <dabaR> grace_: no.
[08:29] <_morphius> Glossary, are you running from a terminal, within gnome, telnet or ssh?
[08:29] <_smd_>  IcemanV9: i never had a problem with anything until that time with my monitor.
[08:29] <Glossary> _morphius, terminal
[08:29] <grace_> n ographic tool
[08:29] <Glossary> trying to run 3ddesk
[08:29] <grace_> or no autodetect
[08:29] <darksoul> NoUse: how do i make it so it sounds better
[08:30] <NoUse> !tell darksoul about sound
[08:30] <_morphius> have you checked your default display environment variable?
[08:30] <Glossary> _morphius,  no how can i do that?
[08:30] <darksoul> NoUse: wtf
[08:30] <darksoul> NoUse: in amarok it sounds fine
[08:30] <_morphius> Glossary: echo $display
[08:30] <grace_> is there some other utility that can check to see what the ethernet cable is connected to before deciding to run pppoe or just do dhcp or if neither responds go with a static config
[08:30] <_morphius> idealy you will get :0
[08:30] <NoUse> darksoul what program creates bad sound?
[08:31] <dabaR> grace_: set it up so it automatically uses dhcp, and configure pppoeconf not to start at boot. then when there is no connection, make an alias to run pon dsl-provider. to make an alias, edit /etc/bash.bashrc and add a line: alias dsl='sudo pon dsl-provider'
[08:31] <Glossary> _morphius, nothing.. it returned nothing
[08:31] <johnny_> morning from south of france
[08:31] <darksoul> NoUse: VLC and doom3-demo normaly
[08:31] <dabaR> grace_: are there 2 eth cards in the computer?
[08:31] <darksoul> NoUse: btw were do i get the doom3-demo on linux
[08:31] <Glossary> _morphius,  i have GeForce 4 MX
[08:31] <boogie> tell me somebody, if i wanted to reformat my hard drive, how would i do it?
[08:31] <N6REJ> is anyone tripwire savy?
[08:31] <_morphius> try typing display=:0 and see if that helps
[08:31] <dabaR> boogie: the whole thing?
[08:31] <_morphius> if not, try display as uppercase.
[08:32] <boogie> let me tell you my problem
[08:32] <boogie> i have 80 gb on windows and 80 on linux
[08:32] <darksoul> NoUse: hmm i like this motherboards on board soundcard..it has nice bass
[08:32] <boogie> i don't ever use linux, and my windows is filling up
[08:32] <Glossary> _morphius,  nothing man
[08:33] <darksoul> !ati
[08:33] <ubotu> hmm... ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[08:33] <Glossary> _morphius,  i just upgraded to breezy i think my vga isnt working properly
[08:33] <johnny_> how can i point my php or html in /var/www so that it will become my site on my box(at the address http://name_or_ip_of_my_box/
[08:33] <onkarshinde> AFAIK SWT is proprietry library. Then why is eclipse in universe instead of multiverse?
[08:33] <intelikey> boogie: and you want to do ????
[08:33] <boogie> i'm lost here on linux, it was a friends idea to install it
[08:33] <polpak> johnny_, you need to set up your apache config
[08:34] <N6REJ> can anyone help  me with messages I'm getting from tripwire?
[08:34] <_morphius> hmmm... ohh. You probably need to apt-get install the glx extension.
[08:34] <dabaR> boogie: are you in linux now?
[08:34] <boogie> i want to erase linux
[08:34] <onkarshinde> boogie: What do you mean by filling up? And what do you want to do?
[08:34] <boogie> my hard drive is almost full
[08:34] <onkarshinde> boogie: I would erase Windows
[08:34] <boogie> in windows
[08:34] <grace_> boogie, boot in windows and go to the disk manager
[08:34] <johnny_> can you give me an example please on pastebin
[08:34] <boogie> yeah yeah.....
[08:34] <Juhaz> onkarshinde, because your "as far" apparently doesn't go very far at all.
[08:34] <Glossary> _morphius hmmm... ohh. You probably need to apt-get install the glx extension.
[08:34] <Glossary> how can i do that people?
[08:34] <intelikey> boogie: use windows fdisk and delete the partition with linux on it  and make your self another doz part.
[08:34] <onkarshinde> Juhaz: I didn't get you.
[08:35] <darksoul> NoUse: what was it again? ubuntu-desktop
[08:35] <boogie> i'm so used to windows, linux is another world
[08:35] <grace_> you would do a lot of people a favour by deleteing your linux partitions
[08:35] <dabaR> johnny_: what? rephrase your question.
[08:35] <NoUse> darksoul yeah
[08:35] <NoUse> darksoul you get doom3 from idsoftware.com
[08:35] <DShepherd> boogie a nice world
[08:35] <boogie> thanks
[08:35] <johnny_> i installed apage,php & mysql
[08:35] <boogie> is it really?
[08:35] <johnny_> everything is well do,well i guess
[08:35] <polpak> boogie, yes
[08:35] <DShepherd> boogie: yes
[08:35] <darksoul> NoUse: im looking for the demo only
[08:35] <darksoul> NoUse: anyway i gotta restart
[08:35] <johnny_> & i would like to host my site
[08:35] <intelikey> boogie also read the wiki about removing grub  if you want to do that.
[08:35] <Juhaz> onkarshinde, swt isn't proprietary
[08:36] <Glossary> how can i install my VGA?
[08:36] <johnny_> on my box
[08:36] <Glossary> its nvidia
[08:36] <polpak> Glossary, read the getting started guide
[08:36] <grace_> boogie, dont go to the wiki and read up.
[08:36] <dabaR> ubotu: tell johnny_ about lamp
[08:36] <boogie> ok....maybe i'll play here for a bit longer before i erase
[08:36] <IcemanV9> boogie:  ubuntu is the easiest OS to use if you want to jump into linux world
[08:36] <onkarshinde> Juhaz: Oh. I thought it is IBM owned library.
[08:36] <dabaR> johnny_: have you installed apache?
[08:36] <grace_> you might find out how to do thing son your own and be empowered
[08:36] <DShepherd> boogie: please do
[08:36] <DShepherd> boogie: ubuntu right?
[08:36] <Glossary> polpak and the getting started guide would be located at?
[08:36] <boogie> yeah
[08:37] <johnny_> i installed lamp
[08:37] <polpak> Glossary, on the top of your deskop, the icon that looks like a life preserve
[08:37] <DShepherd> boogie: you got some sweet brown sugar in your hands,,,,,,use it
[08:37] <dabaR> johnny_: and apache?
[08:37] <johnny_> & apache
[08:37] <johnny_> mysql & php
[08:37] <dabaR> johnny_: open a browser, and type in localhost in the address bar.
[08:37] <intelikey> na go on and erace that FREE software boogie,    you  don't know anything about it anyway.
[08:37] <boogie> maybe i'll just erase some crap in my windows
[08:37] <johnny_> allready did that & added a user
[08:37] <Glossary> polpak i dont have it
[08:38] <dabaR> johnny_: so it shows your page, right?
[08:38] <johnny_> right
[08:38] <polpak> Glossary, you're using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[08:38] <grace_> boogie, especially dont read p in the wiki on how to run all your windoz apps (including ie7 and mediaplayer) on ubuntu with out ever seeing a blue screen again
[08:38] <DShepherd> boogie: yes boogie erase the crap in windows
[08:38] <Glossary> ubuntu breezy
[08:38] <Glossary> oh yea i saw it
[08:38] <dabaR> johnny_: and what is your question then?
[08:38] <Glossary> is there any documents in there that;s related to my question?
[08:38] <polpak> Glossary, yes
[08:38] <johnny_> i can see apache2-default
[08:38] <intelikey> boogie: can't play games on linux anyway.    remove it.
[08:38] <boogie> huh....
[08:39] <DShepherd> intelikey: huh?
[08:39] <intelikey> sure
[08:39] <polpak> intelikey, ??
[08:39] <johnny_> & wanted to know how to  point my php or html in /var/www so that it will become my site on my box(at the address http://name_or_ip_of_my_box/
[08:39] <DShepherd> intelikey: you on crack?
[08:39] <boogie> thats why i have half on windows and half here
[08:39] <intelikey> ssssh  guys  i'm trying to make a point here.
[08:39] <grace_> boogie, and dont read up on how to mount your windows drives under linux so you always have read write access to your data on windows
[08:39] <boogie> how do you know i play games?
[08:39] <dabaR> johnny_: point a php or html is not a concept.
[08:39] <intelikey> :)
[08:39] <grace_> boogie, cause you wat windows over linux
[08:39] <DShepherd> boogie: simple...install and click play
[08:40] <grace_> there are plenty of games you can play on linux
[08:40] <johnny_> dabaR;do you mind if i pm
[08:40] <intelikey> no there isn't.
[08:40] <dabaR> no
[08:40] <grace_> all of mime will run with thousands of consile games
[08:40] <boogie> i tried downloading one and it was locked
[08:40] <boogie> didn't understand
[08:40] <polpak> Glossary, did you find it?
[08:40] <intelikey> there are like ..... a hand full of games that work on *nix
[08:41] <DShepherd> intelikey: huh?
[08:41] <DShepherd> intelikey: you on crack?
[08:41] <grace_> any win32 game is runnable (not all video over doses enabled) in a DOS shell on linux
[08:41] <boogie> tell me this, where can a newbie like myself go?
[08:41] <darksoul> NoUse: ok anyway, i have a 300gb hdd sitting here, what sould i get?
[08:41] <polpak> boogie, to do what?
[08:41] <Glossary> polpak cool thanks
[08:41] <DShepherd> boogie: to learn about ubuntu?
[08:41] <N6REJ> boogie: what is it you are trying to really accomplish?
[08:41] <Glossary> yea i installed it
[08:41] <Glossary> but still
[08:41] <Glossary> 3ddesk isnt working
[08:41] <grace_> ubuntu.org
[08:41] <boogie> yes
[08:41] <polpak> DId you restart?
[08:41] <grace_> check the wiki
[08:41] <N6REJ> boogie: you can play tons of windows games on ubuntu
[08:42] <grace_> and irc is better then MS support any day
[08:42] <slew> i just finished playing unreal tournament 2004 on ubuntu
[08:42] <Glossary> I should restart
[08:42] <Glossary> ??
[08:42] <polpak> Glossary, You have to restart gnome after you install
[08:42] <DShepherd> boogie --> help.ubuntu.com
[08:42] <dabaR> boogie: ubuntu is *free* software, it lets you be free.
[08:42] <polpak> Glossary, and you have to update your xorg.conf
[08:42] <boogie> to get as used to linux as i have with windows
[08:42] <Glossary> polpak i updated it
[08:42] <boogie> sweet
[08:42] <dabaR> boogie: it took a while to get used to windows.
[08:42] <polpak> Glossary, k, then you just need to restart gome
[08:42] <Glossary> allright
[08:42] <grace_> boogie, you can click a mouse read and type right?
[08:42] <Glossary> if it wont work ill buzz you :OP
[08:43] <darksoul> Ok people! i have a 300gb hdd sitting around, what sould i do with it?
[08:43] <Kenny> i've got a tough problem I'm hoping someone can help with.  > I've got a problem getting the install CD to boot on my new HP ZV6000 notebook.  i know others have it working on this system without this problem.  I posted this on the forum, but have had no luck there.  I'll post a link to the forum thread to explain my problem in detail
[08:43] <boogie> yeah
[08:43] <Glossary> :P
[08:43] <Glossary> thanks
[08:43] <dabaR> johnny_: you there?
[08:43] <N6REJ> boogie:  let me find a link for yah... linux has a learning curve depending on wether you want to use it only as a desktop or from the cli.
[08:43] <grace_> the concepts are all the same
[08:43] <Kenny> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89212
[08:43] <boogie> dig it
[08:43] <N6REJ> guys isn't there an XP theme for ubuntu?
[08:43] <DShepherd> boogie: --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation<--- good too
[08:43] <grace_> all the video players on every platform has the same buttons
[08:43] <N6REJ> maybe that would help him feel more at home.
[08:43] <darksoul> Ok people! i have a 300gb hdd sitting around, what sould i do with it?
[08:43] <darksoul> Ok people! i have a 300gb hdd sitting around, what sould i do with it?
[08:43] <darksoul> Ok people! i have a 300gb hdd sitting around, what sould i do with it?
[08:43] <dabaR> N6REJ: why, come on...
[08:43] <dducko> Stops Spamming.
[08:43] <cafuego> darksoul: Can you please not?
[08:43] <Glossary> darksoul,  you should give me 200
[08:43] <grace_> the pics look different but they all do play stop forward full screen mess with video settings
[08:43] <grace_> they all play mp3s
[08:43] <intelikey> boogie: if you really want to learn linux.    remove the windows drive.   and run that thing as long without window as you have without linux......
[08:43] <dabaR> darksoul: send to me
[08:44] <darksoul> cafuego: sorry..im just wonderin wtf to do with it lol
[08:44] <Juhaz> darksoul, bang your head against it until you feel like behaving like an adult
[08:44] <grace_> a web browser all works the same no what computer your at
[08:44] <N6REJ> dabaR: cause you CAN LEAD a horse to water but you CAN'T make'm drink it.
[08:44] <cafuego> Juhaz wins!
[08:44] <dabaR> N6REJ: thats a bowl of sushi.
[08:44] <darksoul> juhaz: ok *bang* *bang* *ban---crack*
[08:44] <boogie> i can't remove windows yet
[08:44] <N6REJ> dabaR: *shrug*
[08:44] <dducko> boogie, just jumping in and doing it is the best.  If you mess up, oh well thats what this chanel is for
[08:45] <N6REJ> boogie: what do you do the most with windows?
[08:45] <boogie> ok
[08:45] <boogie> play games
[08:45] <grace_> boogie, you could just have it boot into linux by default and you learn the trick to run all your games and read your windows partitions and then you can really see how linux works
[08:45] <Kenny> Is anyone here any good at figuring out problems booting the install CD?
[08:45] <N6REJ> boogie: ok wait one.
[08:45] <DShepherd> N6REJ: http://www.gnome-look.org/ <-- try there..
[08:45] <intelikey> boogie: why not.   when you started using windows there was no 'other os to fall back on' was there ?
[08:45] <grace_> your windows apps will stop crashing
[08:45] <grace_> and viruses will disapear
[08:45] <boogie> no
[08:45] <slew> ok, i tried installing nvidia drivers and followed directions and now when i log in it goes right back to the user login screen. this even happens with failsafe gnome
[08:45] <intelikey> well
[08:46] <boogie> i know what your saying
[08:46] <N6REJ> DShepherd:  yeah, maybe that will help boogie feel more comfortable with the desktop, I'm gonna go get the link to game config on *nix
[08:46] <slew> i have copied the xorg backup to xorg.conf and get the same results
[08:46] <dducko> slew did you instal nvidias? Or the ones from synaptic?
[08:46] <intelikey> k then i've done my part.
[08:46] <aftertaf> slew: we need the error.....
[08:46] <slew> i did apt get install nvida
[08:46] <slew> ..
[08:46] <dducko> ahh ok.
[08:46] <aftertaf> sledge__:  type this: sudo /etc/init;d/gdm stop
[08:46] <DShepherd> intelikey: and what part is that?
[08:46] <N6REJ> boogie: here.. carefully read everything at this link... it will help you play 90% of the games for windows ... http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfdownloads/
[08:47] <aftertaf> slew:  i meant
[08:47] <dducko> I never had a problem with that..
[08:47] <intelikey> DShepherd: should have kept up.
[08:47] <aftertaf> slew ... type that command to stop the x server and login bit.
[08:47] <boogie> my friend installed it and said have at it, dickhead could have helped me with it
[08:47] <aftertaf> slew:  then type startx and tell us what the error line says.
[08:47] <DShepherd> intelikey: I did...still wondering what your part was
[08:47] <slew> well at the login i get like a large sized bit of errors
[08:48] <intelikey> yeah boogie,    mmm but that's what we are here for.
[08:48] <N6REJ> boogie: LOL, I hear ya, its a great OS once you get used to it.  Nice thing is the worst thing you can do as a "user" is delete yourself, you can't hurt the system itself.
[08:48] <slew> no way i can remember them all
[08:48] <boogie> i do like you have 4 seperate windows to work with
[08:48] <N6REJ> boogie: you can have more.
[08:48] <intelikey> that number is adjustable.
[08:48] <aftertaf> slew:  type those commands, and let me know what the error messages are.
[08:48] <slew> type which commands? sorry.
[08:48] <boogie> gotcha...thanks for all your info and help, guess all i needed was a pep talk
[08:48] <polpak> slew, did you stop gdm?
[08:48] <aftertaf> slew:    type this: sudo /etc/init;d/gdm stop
[08:49] <DShepherd> boogie: sure,....anytime
[08:49] <aftertaf> slew:  then type startx and tell us what the error line says.
[08:49] <polpak> boogie, it's an exciting new world out there for ya =)
[08:49] <slew> no, im lsadly logged in as root to try to fix this
[08:49] <N6REJ> boogie: btdt... it will take a while, after all you didn't start using windows yesterday
[08:49] <DShepherd> boogie: you have ubuntu--- now rule the world!!!
[08:49] <NoUse> darksoul idsoftware.com has the demo too, wouldn't you host the demo of the game you were trying to sell?
[08:49] <grace_> how can I setup my box to allow a remote login when ive left the house
[08:49] <boogie> thanks...i shall return....thx
[08:49] <darksoul> NoUse: eh no... lol jk
[08:50] <slew> sudo: /etc/init: command not found
[08:50] <slew> bash: d/gdm: No such file or directory
[08:50] <DShepherd> boogie: and we ill be waiting to help you
[08:50] <dabaR> grace_: does it allow remote login when you have not left the house yet?
[08:50] <DShepherd> will*
[08:50] <intelikey> grace_: set up an sshd
[08:50] <polpak> slew,  No space between init.d
[08:50] <dabaR> slew: its not a ; its a .
[08:50] <boogie> i believe it
[08:50] <N6REJ> now, anyone know tripwire?
[08:50] <slew> sudo /etc/init;d/gdm stop like that?
[08:50] <grace_> dabaR, i have not done that yet
[08:50] <polpak> slew, it's a period
[08:51] <dabaR> slew: its a . not a ;
[08:51] <slew> is what i copied
[08:51] <N6REJ> slew, no.. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  c/p that
[08:51] <aftertaf> slew:    sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:51] <grace_> on this edubuntu box beside me anyway
[08:51] <dabaR> grace_: sudo aptitude install openssh-server.
[08:51] <slew> aftertaf slew:    type this: sudo /etc/init;d/gdm stop
[08:51] <aftertaf> slew:  sorry kb furbage
[08:51] <N6REJ> hey aftertaf !
[08:51] <dabaR> grace_: what kind of remote login?
[08:51] <aftertaf> hi N6REJ  :)
[08:51] <N6REJ> slew, check your fingers
[08:51] <slew> ahh a period oh sorry!!
[08:51] <aftertaf> my fault
[08:51] <N6REJ> aftertaf: tripwire is driving me nuts... keeps telling me about tls connection in email everyday
[08:51] <aftertaf> oops whered he go
[08:51] <polpak> doh
[08:52] <DShepherd> grace_: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2450796 <--- ssh info
[08:52] <polpak> he was logged in via X ?
[08:52] <family> what's the next release going to be, and where can the development goals be found?
[08:52] <dabaR> aftertaf: he was in gnome, obviously...
[08:52] <aftertaf> nope, x wont start
[08:52] <grace_> I want soemthing straight forward for windoz newbs to use like browser access to the desktop
[08:52] <aftertaf> grace_:  open nautilus: go to /home/user/Desktop ;)
[08:52] <dabaR> grace_: well, install a VNS client on the windows, and a vnc server for ubuntu.
[08:52] <thoreauputic> family: Dapper Drake, April 2006 , check the wiki
[08:53] <dabaR> not vns, vnc
[08:53] <_smd_> gotmy background to change, not what Iwanted,  But changed none the less
[08:53] <dirkson> Hey all... I'm really really confused with a network problem here. I've got two networks set up- A PPP and a Eth0. Both work independantly of one another- But whenever I turn the eth0 on, it kills the ppp. :-/ Help?
[08:53] <DShepherd> grace_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto?highlight=%28ssh%29 <--- more ssh info :). I like this one better
[08:53] <family> ah, ok there it is
[08:53] <aftertaf> dirkson:  your internet modem is an ethernet one?
[08:53] <family> thoreauputic, thanks
[08:53] <EdLin> family, releases generally are 6 months apart.
[08:53] <dabaR> dirkson: its the gateway perhaps.
[08:53] <thoreauputic> family: np :)
[08:53] <dirkson> aftertag: No, it's the PPP.
[08:54] <aftertaf> dirkson:  ppp = a usb modem?
[08:54] <dirkson> dabaR: Yes, it does list the 'gateway' as eth0 under the ubuntu networking thingie, but it won't let me change it
[08:54] <intelikey> ppp = point to point protacal
[08:54] <dabaR> dirkson: you need to remove that.
[08:55] <dabaR> dirkson: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces if you really can not remove the entry through GUI.
[08:55] <aftertaf> intelikey:  i know what it means ;)   trying to find out if he has an ethernet modem or a usb modem.
[08:55] <dirkson> Aftertaf: Are you clairvoyent? : ) Sort of- It's technically a PCMCIA modem, but linux recognizes it as two usb serial devices, so for all effects and purposes, yes it is
[08:55] <dirkson> dabaR: What should I remove in that file?
[08:55] <slew> ok, im in bitchx, it said GLX nvidia x driver not found
[08:55] <dabaR> dirkson: put a # on the gateway line for eth0.
[08:55] <boogie> me again....can you play counterstrike here?
[08:55] <polpak> boogie, yes
[08:56] <intelikey> aftertaf: i kinda conspected you knew.....  didn't know what brought on the question though.   i had just cleared.
[08:56] <dabaR> dirkson: the # is for sommenting out, and you can remove it if it screws something up.
[08:56] <boogie> holy crap....thats my main game
[08:56] <aftertaf> slew:  ok. looking
[08:56] <aftertaf> lol intelikey  :)
[08:56] <kelbizzle> hey dabar
[08:56] <grace_> nautalous ssh: looks kewl
[08:56] <aftertaf> slew:  you were in gnome just then?
[08:56] <dirkson> dabaR: Right : ) That and .old files are my very best friends right now :)
[08:57] <dabaR> kelbizzle: hey
[08:57] <darksoul> NoUse: thanks
[08:57] <kelbizzle> whatdoes this mean "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:57] <kelbizzle> "
[08:57] <thoreauputic> slightly off-topic - can a dead CMOS battery cause a disk controller failure (I'm not a hardware guy)
[08:57] <boogie> do i download it or will it install off my cd?
[08:57] <grace_> does ssh: work with other browsers yet
[08:57] <grace_> on windoz for instance
[08:57] <polpak> kelbizzle, means you tried to apt-get with synaptic open
[08:57] <slew> i was in gnome before i did the command you asked me to do, now im at the prompt with bitchx
[08:57] <dirkson> dabaR: Well, I'm gonna try to turn on eth0 to see if that fixed it. If I stop talking, it got me ;)
[08:57] <dabaR> kelbizzle: it means something is wrong, do you have synaptic open and are running an aptitude or apt-get command?
[08:57] <slew> i was in gnome as root, it seemed to work fine.
[08:57] <intelikey> kelbizzle: probably that another program is using it.
[08:57] <DShepherd> grace_: did you read the links I gave you?
[08:57] <kelbizzle> apt-get
[08:57] <dirkson> dabaR: Hey, you're still all talking.... This is positive.
[08:58] <DShepherd> grace_: putty, application that runs on windows allows you to ssh
[08:58] <kelbizzle> it's open but on another workspace
[08:58] <dabaR> dirkson: I tend to give proper advice for networking.
[08:58] <grace_> DShepherd, yes
[08:58] <dabaR> kelbizzle: close synaptic, they cant both run, they use same resources
[08:58] <grace_> hmm putty
[08:58] <aftertaf> slew:  worked as root? hmmm when you type startx now as user you get the glx not found error?
[08:58] <DShepherd> grace_: yes putty
[08:58] <grace_> to act as agent to then pass x-windows
[08:58] <slew> aftertaf yes, plus a bunch of fonts not found
[08:59] <dirkson> dabaR: So it seems : ) And it was so simple, too. Silly of me not to think of that earlier.
[08:59] <slew> aftertaf i wasnt able to copy these for pasting purposes
[08:59] <slew> =p
[08:59] <dabaR> dirkson: well, now you know.
[08:59] <aftertaf> oops. anyoine have any ideas on that?
[08:59] <dirkson> dabaR: Now, the machines can ping each other... But can they transmit data? ;)
[08:59] <aftertaf> slew:  try adding your user account to the video group
[08:59] <kelbizzle> dabar your elite
[08:59] <ganhongsen> why I cannot install Kget? "Installing this application would mean that something else needs to be removed."
[08:59] <kelbizzle> haha
[08:59] <slew> aftertaf how?
[08:59] <grace_> that vnc looks good too
[08:59] <dabaR> dirkson: firewall? router? how is it connected?
[09:00] <thoreauputic> rats. Can someone type my nick please?
[09:00] <aftertaf> slew:   sudo adduser slew video
[09:00] <dabaR> thoreauputic:
[09:00] <thoreauputic> dabaR: thanks :)
[09:00] <intelikey> kelbizzle: some things like dpkg -i can only have one instance running at a time.   apt aptitude and synaptic are front ends for dpkg
[09:00] <grace_> says you can set it for port80 and use a browser
[09:00] <slew> brb..
[09:00] <omnid> Hello.
[09:00] <aftertaf> slew:  hang on.
[09:00] <dirkson> dabaR: *laughs* Twisted cat. Just the basics for me : )
[09:00] <wx9j> how do I play mpg files using totem ??
[09:00] <kelbizzle> I understand. Sorry to keep bugging you guys.
[09:00] <aftertaf> press alt+F2, you'll get a new login window terminal slew
[09:01] <dabaR> dirkson: so a crossover cat? and then manual IPs on both machines?
[09:01] <kelbizzle> I google it before asking atleast
[09:01] <Warter> debar: sorry about the delay in time between questions should i hand edit my interfaces txt?
[09:01] <thoreauputic> !tell wx9j about restricted
[09:01] <dirkson> dabaR: Right on both counts.
[09:01] <dabaR> kelbizzle: youre not bugging anyone
[09:01] <grace_> dabaR, have you used VNC via the web browser before
[09:01] <kelbizzle> glad to know =)
[09:01] <slew> aftertaf already a member of video
[09:01] <dabaR> grace_: I have never used vnc
[09:01] <aftertaf> ok....
[09:01] <omnid> !tell omnid about restricted
[09:02] <dabaR> dirkson: so, ping from both machines works? and how are you trying to transfer data?
[09:02] <omnid> bad command aparently
[09:02] <aftertaf> slew:  and if you now try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start    ?
[09:02] <grace_> dabaR, oh cuz ya mentioned it earlier
[09:02] <aftertaf> slew:  what is your processor type? amd/intel?
[09:02] <thoreauputic> omnid: no - are you registered?
[09:02] <slew> aftertaf intel celeron d 2.53ghz
[09:02] <intelikey> dabaR: any info on the exact wiring for a crossover cable ?    i've been wanting to make one, but don't have anything to go by.
[09:02] <thoreauputic> omnid: ubotu won't answer unless you are registered
[09:03] <aftertaf> slew:   ok did you install the linux-686 package?
[09:03] <dabaR> intelikey: no, I buy one.
[09:03] <polpak> intelikey, http://www.duxcw.com/digest/Howto/network/cable/cable5.htm
[09:03] <kelbizzle> ho do you become no-root againt *blushes*
[09:03] <thoreauputic> !restricted
[09:03] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:03] <dirkson> dabaR: *smiles* Well, data transfer in general works, I just tested it- VNC is purring along like a champ. I can't quite get the file-sharing servers (NFS?) to work.... Although I believe I know the reason. I think I may not have compiled my kernel with the networking file system. Does that sound like something I could have done? : )
[09:03] <slew> aftertaf uhm you mean the distro?
[09:03] <intelikey> polpak: ty
[09:03] <dabaR> dirkson: no idea.
[09:04] <dabaR> ubotu: tell dirkson abotu nfs
[09:04] <dirkson> dabaR: *smiles happily and waits for ubotu*
[09:04] <Warter> ifup wlan0 gives me a permission denied
[09:04] <aftertaf> slew, noe the kernel
[09:04] <dabaR> Warter: sudo in front
[09:04] <polpak> Warter, sudo ifup wlan0?
[09:04] <thoreauputic> !nfs
[09:04] <ubotu> rumour has it, nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[09:04] <dirkson> dabaR: Cool, gave me some website. Those should get me up and running : )
[09:04] <darksoul> were is the doom3 demo for linux i know there is one im just not sure were
[09:05] <dabaR> dirkson: as I said, no idea.
[09:05] <slew> aftertaf no, sorry. ps, was it sudo /etc/inet.d/gdm start?
[09:05] <Warter> unknown interface
[09:05] <dabaR> darksoul: google helps with searching,.
[09:05] <kelbizzle> I LOVE GOOGLE
[09:05] <dabaR> slew: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start
[09:05] <aftertaf> slew:  type this:    sudo apt-get install linux-686
[09:05] <polpak> Warter, sorry, don't put the question mark on the end
[09:05] <kelbizzle> and google ig
[09:05] <choudesh> !search freevo
[09:05] <ubotu> choudesh: I give up, what is it?
[09:05] <dirkson> dabaR: Thanks a lot, dabaR. One more quick thing- xVncviewer has this nasty tendency to scroll to the right and down, but not to the left or up. Any ideas, or reccomendations for a better client?
[09:05] <aftertaf> slew:  it was init.d not inet.d
[09:05] <choudesh> !search HTPC
[09:05] <ubotu> choudesh: What?
[09:06] <choudesh> !search gcc
[09:06] <ubotu> No idea, choudesh
[09:06] <dabaR> dirkson: I have never used vnc
[09:06] <choudesh> !find gcc
[09:06] <Warter> polpak: i didnt
[09:06] <choudesh> heh
[09:06] <choudesh> !find freevo
[09:06] <dabaR> choudesh: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[09:06] <aftertaf> choudesh:  open a priv msg with ubotu to query him like that
[09:06] <kelbizzle> non-root?
[09:06] <Warter> do i need to compile the .bins before install with ndiswrapper
[09:06] <dabaR> ubotu: tell choudesh about msg the bot
[09:06] <dirkson> dabaR: *gasp!* *grin* All it's really good for is fixing friends computers anyway. It's wonderful that I don't have to go over to my friends houses to fix their problems anymore : )
[09:06] <slew> aftertaf nalright its downloading now. being in commandline is pretty leet.. maybe ill stay here..
[09:06] <omnid> Oh sorry guys I left
[09:07] <omnid> Yeah I guess I should reg on here
[09:07] <aftertaf> hehe slew i warn you, its addictive ;)
[09:07] <dabaR> dirkson: their ubuntu computers? I use ssh for that.
[09:07] <thoreauputic> omnid:  /msg nickserv register <password>
[09:07] <omnid> done
[09:07] <slew> last time i tried bitchx it was all ugly and hated me. this one is quite nice and loves me
[09:07] <intelikey> kelbizzle: non-root?        do what ?
[09:07] <aftertaf> hehe
[09:08] <omnid> I got it, thanks though :P
[09:08] <dirkson> dabaR: I should learn that : ) Useful thing. More often than not, though, my friends are on the M$ os. Easy enough thing to work with, though it gives me the willies
[09:08] <kelbizzle> get out of root?
[09:08] <thoreauputic> omnid: :)
[09:08] <aftertaf> you need to be a bitchX back, and it rolls on its back, paws in the air.
[09:08] <kelbizzle> *blushes*
[09:08] <intelikey> exit
[09:08] <intelikey> lol
[09:08] <polpak> dirkson, I've stopped giving my friends and family windows support. It's too problematic
[09:08] <aftertaf> ctl+D
[09:08] <omnid> Anyways I'm completely new to Linux. I've maybe used Ubuntu for a week total.
[09:08] <kelbizzle> wont that close the console
[09:08] <polpak> dirkson, if they want tech support they have to use linux
[09:09] <Warter> debaR: do i need to compile the .bin files from the driver folder some way before i install with ndiswrapper??
[09:09] <intelikey> only if you loged in as root.    and console ?   no it would reset it.  not close it.
[09:09] <dirkson> polpak: Yah, yah, I know : ) I think I might try to get at least one of my friends switched over. All his uses his computer for is America's Army and the internet, both of which work a LOT better on Linux ;)
[09:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'freevo' returned no results.
[09:09] <Reformed> the Video on AA is runs better on Linux on older hardware
[09:09] <grace_> hhhmmmmm has anyon eused this built in Remote Desktop utility under system - administration
[09:09] <omnid> I still need to dual boot with Windows. A couple college programs and Reason 3.0 are windows only.
[09:10] <dabaR> Warter: not that I know, I dont do ndiswrapper, sorry. Im off, g'night all.
[09:10] <dabaR>  02:12:54 up 30 days,  7:06,  5 users,  load average: 0.54, 0.46, 0.48
[09:10] <dirkson> dabaR: And as long as I've got you on the line- I'd eventually like to share my internet connection to the second machine here. Any resources you could point me towards that way?
[09:10] <aftertaf> imniduse qemu ;)
[09:10] <grace_> dirkson, buy a gateway router
[09:10] <dirkson> Reformed: On my machine, AA looks TONS better on Linux- I'm running 64x ubuntu, so the floats they use to compute the lightmaps are larger, and I can definitely see the difference
[09:10] <aftertaf> dirkson:  or use a nat script
[09:10] <grace_> life will be way simpler
[09:10] <Warter> anyone have some advise with ndiswrapper?
[09:11] <intelikey> kelbizzle: assuming you are using ubuntu, and assuming that you used sudo -   or something like that to gain root access, just type exit     but that is a lot of assumptions....
[09:11] <dabaR> dirkson: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/hardware/InternetConectionSharing?highlight=%28sharing%29
[09:11] <grace_> Warter, use a gateway router
[09:11] <Warter> i have one
[09:11] <grace_> you can buy them for 60 to 80 bucks
[09:11] <aftertaf> dirkson:  or msg seveas, he has a nat script that works a treat (i surf now thx to it)
[09:11] <Warter> im trying to install my wireless card driver
[09:11] <dirkson> grace_: Thanks, but I am currently doing that "looking for a job" think :-/ No money-spending for me, no matter how shiny the tech-gadget. (Seriously, I want a gp2x. SERIOUSLY.)
[09:11] <Warter> i have routers
[09:11] <intelikey> kelbizzle: also learn  'whoami '     :)
[09:12] <dirkson> Argh, you all are typing to fast for me :D Thanks for all the resources, I'll look 'em up!
[09:12] <aftertaf> !tell Warter about ndiswrapper
[09:12] <darkness_> Hey all, i have just downloaded the JVm of of their website and tried to install it using instructions i got from a forum. The problem is that it doesn't work. HEre is what i typed in the terminal in accordance to what they told me to do.   root@Mavers-network:/home/darkness # alien -d jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586-1.bin
[09:12] <darkness_> Unknown type of package, jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586-1.bin.
[09:12] <darkness_> Could anyone help me with this?
[09:12] <dirkson> dabaR: Thanks a lot for everything dabaR, you've certainly gotten me on my way!
[09:12] <Warter> aftertaf: whats that do?
[09:12] <polpak> darkness_, read the getting started guide
[09:12] <aftertaf> !tell darkness_about java
[09:13] <slew> ok, after installing 686 and doing the gdm start i have the same problem
[09:13] <darkness_> Ok.
[09:13] <aftertaf> Warter:  its for help with ndiswrapper
[09:13] <dabaR> dirkson: my email address is referenced on there as the last editor. you can mail me with questions. I suggest the first option, even though I wrote the second one.
[09:13] <Reformed> I use blackdown
[09:13] <grace_> dirkson, are you trying to connect from machine to machine or just have all boxes be able to get internet
[09:13] <aftertaf> !tell darkness_ about java
[09:13] <thoreauputic> !tell darkness_ about javadebs
[09:13] <Warter> !tell
[09:13] <Reformed> and of course eclipse for java development
[09:13] <dabaR> dirkson: I tend not to say "you'rewelcome".:)
[09:13] <grace_> in either case you only need a gateway router
[09:13] <omnid> Hmm... what's a good C++ compiler?
[09:13] <aftertaf> oh, by the way... hi thoreauputic  :)
[09:13] <polpak> omnid, g++
[09:13] <dabaR> omnid: gcc
[09:13] <Warter> grace, i have one
[09:13] <thoreauputic> aftertaf: hi :)
[09:14] <aftertaf> grace_:  a multihomed linux can do it in 30 seconds.
[09:14] <omnid> Haha, allright.
[09:14] <Warter> im installing a wireless cards drivers
[09:14] <dirkson> grace_: Just one-to-one. I'll eventually add a third machine to the network, once I can find esoteric enough hardware to do it, but it won't need the internet.
[09:14] <dabaR> omnid: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[09:14] <omnid> I think I installed those from the package dealie already
[09:14] <omnid> I'll do it anyways to be sure
[09:14] <grace_> warter your trying to setup a wifi ap on your router while dirkson is just trying to ......... ive been corrected
[09:14] <thoreauputic> omnid: dabaR 's command will get you both, plus other bits you need :)
[09:14] <dabaR> well, only a thousand ways to make sure...
[09:15] <dirkson> dabaR: That's ok : ) I'm the kind of guy that just likes to let people know I appreciate what they've done. Try giving me a sandwich sometime, you'll never get me to shut up ;)
[09:15] <omnid> Sweet. Good to know.
[09:15] <dabaR> dirkson: haha
[09:15] <grace_> dirkson do you have a gate way router
[09:15] <slew> so should i try to uninstall the nvidia drivers?
[09:15] <dabaR> grace_: no, he does not.
[09:15] <dirkson> grace_: No, not really.
[09:15] <omnid> Also I'd like to sandwich that with a supposedly dumb question on how I can get videos working?
[09:15] <dirkson> aftertaf: What, ah.... what is an egg butty?
[09:15] <grace_> dirkson, you said you did I saw it
[09:15] <grace_> ;^)
[09:15] <polpak> slew, do you have an nvidia card?
[09:15] <Warter> so how do i compile the .bin files
[09:16] <Warter> ??
[09:16] <aftertaf> slew:  no... install that kernel package and boot from it... one question though. Did you download the drivers from the nvidia website, or use the ubuntu ones?
[09:16] <slew> polpak yah, its a 5200
[09:16] <dirkson> grace_: What?
[09:16] <dirkson> grace_: No grace, I don't. Never said I did.
[09:16] <grace_> k
[09:16] <grace_> so you have a modem no other network gear so ever and two computers
[09:16] <dabaR> thoreauputic: youll be fine.
[09:17] <slew> aftertaf i did apt-get install .. i cant remember, it was on a walkthru for ubuntu but i cant remember where i found it. sorry
[09:17] <dirkson> aftertaf: Great, now I'm curious. What's an egg butty, anyway?
[09:17] <slew> like jim and jack or something
[09:17] <omnid> Oh yeah and I have hoary hedgehog... would I have to format to upgrade?
[09:17] <grace_> your ubuntu box will need two network cards
[09:17] <slew> and aftertaf i have already rebooted
[09:17] <intelikey> mmx's cant die   !    8*{
[09:17] <aftertaf> slew:  did you at one point get a file from nvidia called sth like NVIDIA-XXX.run  ?
[09:17] <intelikey> can they >?
[09:17] <dabaR> grace_: youre thinking Warter, cause she said she has it.
[09:17] <grace_> dirkson, have you got two network cards in your ubuntu
[09:17] <aftertaf> dirkson:  hehe its an egg sandwich in england :)
[09:17] <slew> aftertaf not sure.
[09:17] <thoreauputic> dabaR: I've lost my thin client! I might have to do some dumpster diving ;-)
[09:18] <spo0nman> thoreauputic: I was once the blue eyed boy of the school because I had a Pentium MMX :)
[09:18] <dabaR> thoreauputic: always a good idea. you can even find sandwiches sometimes
[09:18] <aftertaf> i'm gonna have the oldest beastie around with my p 500 soon then :)
[09:18] <dirkson> aftertaf: Well, if it's vegetarian, I'm game : ) I like brittish food. Got a jar of marmite in the fridge
[09:18] <Warter> what app would i use?
[09:18] <thoreauputic> spo0nman: I guess 8 years is a pretty good innings
[09:18] <omnid> oh no lotsa talking
[09:18] <aftertaf> dirkson:  egg as vegetarian... philosophical debate can figure that one out
[09:19] <dirkson> grace_: Not on this machine, no, it's a laptop. I have a spare card on the other machine I just networked, I'm going to try to use that. I'll need to try to find a PCI token ring adapter, though. That's gonna be hard.
[09:19] <aftertaf> slew:  we would need to know though, we can't help you to get it working again if you can't remember what you did.
[09:19] <aftertaf> slew:  reread the link ubotu will send you and tell me which one is familiar ;)
[09:20] <slew> aftertaf i dont have that file in my whereis
[09:20] <aftertaf> !tell slew about nvidia
[09:20] <intelikey> i knew duck was a vegetable, but i didn't know eggs were ?
[09:20] <dirkson> aftertaf: I've been a lacto-ovo vegetarian for about... lesse...5-6 years now? Most people report craving meat, but I never really have.
[09:20] <lanjelot> Is there someone who knows what is the difference between a '*' and '!' in /etc/shadow ?
[09:20] <grace_> dirkson, roken ring !!!!!!!!
[09:20] <grace_> dirkson, are you out of your mind  !!!!!!!
[09:20] <grace_> dirkson, why would you do that to your self
[09:20] <slew> aftertaf naw, this one had jimandjac in the address line
[09:20] <omnid> yeah dirkson I mean what
[09:20] <darkness_> Hey, thanks for the help. Some stuff happened, fetched some stuff, preconfigured and stuff. But when i go to a chatroom that uses java, it says i don't have it!
[09:20] <dirkson> grace_: I picked up a IBM PowerServer520 at a going out of buisness sale. I either have to token-ring in or try to find a dumb terminal to work it.
[09:21] <slew> or possibly jaq. i have it bookmarked in firefox under slew, so i cant get it in root. argh.
[09:21] <grace_> what
[09:21] <dirkson> grace_: I'm thinking finding a token ring adapater might be a -little- easier and cheaper.
[09:21] <polpak>        valid result of crypt(3), for instance ! or *, the  user  will  not  be
[09:21] <polpak>        able to use a unix password to log in, subject to pam(7).
[09:21] <omnid> tahw
[09:21] <polpak> doh
[09:21] <intelikey> chat room that uses java.... yuch.
[09:21] <grace_> that thing is like a 486 or maybe pentium 120
[09:21] <Victorjiang> what is the difference between ubuntu,kubuntu and edubuntu?
[09:22] <grace_> Victorjiang, the desktop
[09:22] <omnid> Actually what's the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[09:22] <dirkson> grace_: Umm..... Sorta. 20 mhz, six or seven processors. About the size of a small dishwasher. I use it as a nightstand.
[09:22] <slew> aftertaf is there a way to configure x to default settings?
[09:22] <darkness_> intelikey: Yeah, but thats what most of my friends use.
[09:22] <grace_> Victorjiang, edubuntu also has the default option to setup a network lab out of the box
[09:22] <dirkson> grace_: In its day, it retailed for over 27,000 dollars.
[09:22] <thoreauputic> omnid: KDE
[09:22] <grace_> ahh
[09:22] <omnid> That's a GUI right?
[09:22] <intelikey> Victorjiang: ub defalts to gnome  kub defaults to kde and edu i have no clue.
[09:22] <grace_> dirkson, Worse then a night mare
[09:22] <omnid> I don't see the difference myself...
[09:23] <abe> hi guys
[09:23] <aftertaf> slew:  yeah: type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:23] <dirkson> grace_: And now it holds up my alarm clock :D
[09:23] <thoreauputic> omnid: like gnome - a desktop environment
[09:23] <darkness_> So, can anyone help me?
[09:23] <grace_> dirkson, an 8 cpu multi-processor that can only spit out 20mhz
[09:23] <intelikey> omnid: ub defalts to gnome  kub defaults to kde and edu i have no clue.
[09:23] <thoreauputic> omnid: KDE and Gnoome have bvery different looks and ways of doing things
[09:23] <dirkson> grace_: 6-7. I -think- it's six, but it has an extra heatsink off to the side that I can't identify.
[09:23] <omnid> I see...
[09:24] <BlueEagle> darkness_: Let me see if I got this right: You fetched some stuff, configured some stuff and stuff and now it's not working?
[09:24] <grace_> dirkson, I have a private tech museum
[09:24] <omnid> Would it be hard to adapt to Kubuntu?
[09:24] <aftertaf> slew:  i just tested that ciommand here and it did something too ;)
[09:24] <intelikey> some people like gnome and the rest of us like kde :)
[09:24] <thoreauputic> omnid: no
[09:24] <grace_> I give you 50 bucks for that unique antique
[09:24] <thoreauputic> omnid: you can have both if you wish
[09:24] <omnid> Maybe I should try it out
[09:24] <snadge> whorey hedgehog and sleazy badger.. hehe
[09:24] <aftertaf> omnid:  its an apt-get away
[09:24] <dirkson> grace_: Naw, I paid $45, and I'm not about to give it up : ) I love that thing
[09:24] <darkness_> BlueEgale: Yeah, it says that stuff and that it newly installed it. Yet when i try to get it to work in my firefox window it says i need a plugin.
[09:25] <thoreauputic> omnid: you jsut choose the session
[09:25] <grace_> dirkson, ok $55
[09:25] <intelikey> omnid: you can install kde on ubuntu as well as gnome on kubuntu.
[09:25] <polpak> darkness_, my guess is you missed a step..
[09:25] <grace_> dirkson, ok well realistic expectations any way
[09:25] <slew> aftertaf said xserver.org is not installed.
[09:25] <omnid> So why did they name them different then if they are basically the same with just different GUIs?
[09:25] <grace_> go buy a gateway router so your computers can actually use the internet
[09:26] <BlueEagle> darkness_: Odds are that the stuf you fetched isn't compatible or not configured correctly. Try http://mystuffisntworking.com ;D
[09:26] <darkness_> polpak, i can't see how i stuffed it up.
[09:26] <dirkson> grace_: *laughs* No, no, no : ) It's the spirit of the thing, more than the money. If you were to pay off my laptop, I'd probably let it go, but I really, really like the idea of a 27,000 dollar machine holding up my alarm clock : )
[09:26] <BlueEagle> darkness_: (that is: read the friendly manual)
[09:26] <intelikey> the gui is not different just the desktop environment
[09:26] <polpak> darkness_, well what did you do?
[09:26] <grace_> that lead box will actually slow down all your networking to be less than broadband
[09:26] <aftertaf> slew:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:26] <snadge> omnid, because KDE sux and forces everything to start with a K because its Krap
[09:26] <snadge> :p
[09:26] <thoreauputic> omnid: heh - just to clarify the diff I guess: KDE and Gnome are rather different
[09:26] <grace_> like dial up
[09:26] <aftertaf> slew:  in command line in linux, you need to type exactly the right command. it doesn't forgive typos ;)
[09:26] <omnid> Well what's the apt-get command? I would like to try it out.
[09:26] <darkness_> polpak: I did exactly what it told me to do on the site. I typed it in word for word, but i had to change the file name because it was different to the one in the tutorial thing.
[09:27] <thoreauputic> snadge: desktop wars -->>> #ubuntu-offtopic  ;-)
[09:27] <BlueEagle> dirkson: The best thing is: Your alarmcloc has got more processing power than the $27K unit. :)
[09:27] <polpak> darkness_,  Which site?
[09:27] <grace_> hahaha
[09:27] <darkness_> polpak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:27] <thoreauputic> omnid: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:27] <BlueEagle> darkness_: That might be the thing. If it's not the same file as the tutorial the tutorial might not apply.
[09:27] <Wimpie> About every second time I shutdown 5.1 ubuntu the root FS is not unmounted cleanly with a FScheck as a consequence. Any Ideas ?
[09:27] <aftertaf> omnid:  apt is the package management in debian/ubuntu
[09:27] <grace_> just dont hurt your hom enetwork by connecting it to your home network
[09:27] <aftertaf> omnid:  if you use synaptic you are using apt, via a graphical interface
[09:28] <slew> aftertaf thanks, i just found that pg up is my scroll back
[09:28] <omnid> Ah I figured that's what was up.
[09:28] <Seveas> goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu lovers :o)
[09:28] <grace_> dirkson, really I got all kinds a shit but nothing like that
[09:28] <aftertaf> looooooooooooooooooooooooooool Seveas  :)
[09:28] <omnid> Neat to know. Oh yeah to upgrade to a later version of Ubuntu would I need to format?
[09:28] <darkness_> BlueEagle: It seemed to work though. Like the things that popped in the terminal told me that it worked. Although it could be saying it didn't. I only got linux the other day.
[09:28] <aftertaf> top of the mornin' to ya too ;)
[09:28] <intelikey> yeah and apt is a frontend for dpkg  the debian package manager.
[09:28] <omnid> Or are there upgrade images?
[09:28] <polpak> darkness_, Did you install the Blackdown installer? or Sun Java JRE 5.0
[09:28] <ganhongsen> how to "apt-get" shorewall, I cannot find it in synaptic ?
[09:28] <Seveas> omnid, even better: you can use apt :)
[09:28] <dirkson> BlueEagle: I know, isn't it grand? My alarm clock can play mp3s, fm, am, nature sounds, and has different settings for the weekend, and the huge computer ain't got NONE of it ;)
[09:28] <Glossary> how to make RealPlayer my default player
[09:28] <aftertaf> omnid:  not at all... no need to format
[09:29] <Seveas> no formatting, no iso downloading
[09:29] <omnid> Oh sweet :D
[09:29] <aftertaf> omnid:  apt will get the latest packages and upgrade, no need even to reboot ;)
[09:29] <darkness_> Sun JRE 5.0
[09:29] <Wimpie> Glossary : forget about realplayer use xine or mplayer
[09:29] <darkness_> Dunno where to get Blackdown.
[09:29] <dirkson> BlueEagle: Perhaps, eventually, I could make it -into- my alarm clock ;) I know enough C to do some basic stuff...... ;)
[09:29] <thoreauputic> Seveas: heh ;)
[09:29] <Glossary> Wimpie realplayer was the best on windows.. im new to linux :)
[09:29] <Seveas> darkness_, apt-get install j2re-14
[09:29] <omnid> Also is there a keyboard shortcut for terminal?
[09:29] <BlueEagle> darkness_: I'm sure if you did a little bit of work you could get it to play an mp3
[09:29] <aftertaf> omnid:  stay on here afor a coupla weeks, ubuntu will have you drolling insanely at all the possibilities ;)
[09:29] <Glossary> wimpie you dont recommend rp ?
[09:29] <DShepherd> Glossary: right-click --> Properties --> Open with tab
[09:29] <Seveas> (read: blackdown is in ubuntu multiverse)
[09:29] <polpak> darkness_,  There were 2 sets of instructions on that site. Which one did you follow?
[09:29] <BlueEagle> dirkson: Question is how noisy it it.
[09:30] <Glossary> DShepherd,  right click on what?
[09:30] <omnid> aftertaf: I can see that it most likely will.
[09:30] <Wimpie> no rp is SLOW crappy and does only play 'some' formats, mp/xine are fast, clean and play ALL formats (even rm)
[09:30] <aftertaf> omnid:  shortcuts, you set em up as you want ;)  check your system setup control centre thingy
[09:30] <DShepherd> Glossary: you want to make your player open files by defualt
[09:30] <DShepherd> ?
[09:30] <polpak> darkness_, Also did you sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:30] <dirkson> grace_: I figured I was really lucky to get it. Horribly hard to get home. You ever try to lug home a computer the size of an endtable without a car?
[09:30] <darkness_> The top one where it tels me to do this: sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common
[09:30] <intelikey> omnid there is for consoles    [ctrl] +[alt] +[f#]   where # is 1-6   7 is the gui again.
[09:30] <dirkson> BlueEagle: A bit more than the average desktop computer, but not much : )
[09:31] <Glossary> DShepherd, yeah i want when i double click on any mp3 file.. i want realplayer to play it not Totem
[09:31] <BlueEagle> dirkson: The "averege" desktop computer is way to loud to sleep besides.
[09:31] <DShepherd> Glossary: right...so as I said before
[09:31] <aftertaf> Glossary:  install windows then ;)   (joke)
[09:31] <DShepherd> Glossary: right-click --> Properties --> Open with tab
[09:31] <darkness_> I just tried the sudo update-alternatives --config java and stuff popped ip.
[09:31] <DShepherd> Glossary: and locate realplayer
[09:31] <polpak> you have to select the java to use
[09:31] <afd_> hi! I'm using freemind, a java software and its visual widgets (buttons, menubar, etc) are not very nice. I get this message at startup: /usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:49: Engine "clearlooks" is unsupported, ignoring           Some ideas on how I could get some nice stuff? I'm asking this because I use this program daily and it takes from the "users experience"
[09:31] <polpak> darkness_, you want the sun one
[09:31] <dirkson> BlueEagle: I'm a computer nerd. The soothing hum of computers is like music ;)
[09:32] <BlueEagle> dirkson: No it's not. If you still like it you haven't heard it for long enough.
[09:32] <thoreauputic> Glossary: realplay is way inferior to totem-xine or mplayer or even rhythmbox
[09:32] <intelikey> BlueEagle: that's one reason i always power down,  the other two are conservation and excess heat.
[09:32] <aftertaf> afd_:  try changing your gnome gtk theme to another, maybe its the theme thats incompatible
[09:32] <darkness_> Yeah, i want the sun one...
[09:32] <zxsykco> I need a to ask a favor of everyone.. if you wouldn't mind helping me, here is my problem..
[09:32] <Glossary> DShepherd, it was not set to default
[09:32] <polpak> darkness_, so did you select it?
[09:32] <zxsykco> I have an evil mobo with an onboard i810 and I wish to use an ati radeon pci..
[09:32] <thoreauputic> Glossary: th eonly reason to use it is for some stupid online radio stations
[09:32] <dirkson> BlueEagle: *laughs* I live in the city, actually. The train going by is about as loud as a desktop. Doesn't bug me anymore
[09:32] <Glossary> thoreauputic, I dont know man.. what's the best mp3 player for Linux?
[09:32] <DShepherd> Glossary: ok, did you set it?
[09:32] <BlueEagle> intelikey: I never power down (unless upgrading). :p
[09:32] <Glossary> I just installed Breeze :)
[09:32] <darkness_> Have no idea how.
[09:32] <dirkson> BlueEagle: Wish I could move, buuut.
[09:32] <zxsykco> I've set the bios correctly and everything.
[09:33] <afd_> aftertaf, my desktop is optimized for the clearlooks. Please don't ask me to change that :)
[09:33] <zxsykco> The problem is that ubuntu doesn't have an xorgconfig or similar only Xorg -configure..
[09:33] <polpak> darkness_, It should give you a menu and ask for a number
[09:33] <thoreauputic> Glossary: read the URLs ubotu will send you in pm
[09:33] <J_Element> hello , umm any one can teach me how to install my sound card driver on ubuntu ?
[09:33] <zxsykco> This causes an error as it automagically generates an xorg.conf file that uses the i810 instead of the ati radeon.
[09:33] <Glossary> DSheperd does this method work for other programs?
[09:33] <polpak> darkness_, you want to choose the one for sun jre
[09:33] <omnid> OH GOD
[09:33] <BlueEagle> dirkson: The train going by is as loud as your desktop? Does your desktop make noise? o.O
[09:33] <thoreauputic> !tell Glossary about restricted
[09:33] <BlueEagle> dirkson: all creeking and stuff?
[09:33] <zxsykco> I am familiar with xorg.conf but not enough to know what I need to change manually in order to correct this.
[09:33] <DShepherd> Glossary: yes ...for all programs
[09:33] <intelikey> BlueEagle: if you are not running a server, you should.     saves energy.
[09:33] <aftertaf> afd_:  reread your error message........; it seems to be that.
[09:33] <thoreauputic> !tell Glossary about docs
[09:33] <zxsykco> I have the ati card working fine with windows even after having to work aroung the same problem.
[09:33] <Glossary> thoreauputic, aight ..
[09:33] <BlueEagle> intelikey: I live in Norway. We've got plenty of energy.
[09:34] <darkness_> It says Usage: --install <link> <name> <path> <priority> the some other stuff.
[09:34] <zxsykco> Any help would be greatly appreciated! ^_^
[09:34] <slew> aftertaf still broken. =[ prolly gonna just do a fresh install
[09:34] <Glossary> DShepherd, one more thing, could you or anybody else who knows help me with LImeWire
[09:34] <slew> which will suck
[09:34] <Glossary> ive installed it
[09:34] <aftertaf> zxsykco:  diable it in bios?
[09:34] <Glossary> but i can only run it from terminal
[09:34] <Glossary> i want to make an icon for it..
[09:34] <thoreauputic> Glossary: those URLs will start you in the right direction
[09:34] <intelikey> BlueEagle: oh,,,, sorry it must be the rest of the world i was thinking about.....
[09:34] <aftertaf> slew:  not normal.    for now, change your xorg driver to nv, not nvidia.
[09:34] <zxsykco> I cannot disable it in the bios, I can only choose the primary graphics card.
[09:34] <grace_> ok so checkin out the ssh server setup scenario
[09:34] <BlueEagle> intelikey: Common mistake. :)
[09:34] <intelikey> :)
[09:35] <zxsykco> I cannot disable it in the bios, I can only choose the primary graphics card, aftertaf.
[09:35] <dirkson> BlueEagle: Hmm? No, I'm just talking about the general level of ambiant noise. The train makes about as much noise as a desktop would, although of a different sort.
[09:35] <omnid> Seems the shortcut menu doesnt want me to junction super to anything but super+r
[09:35] <DShepherd> Glossary: like put in in the menu?
[09:35] <aftertaf> Seveas:  any idea why the nvidia driver wont work for a user, but startx as root does work?
[09:35] <slew> aftertaf where is it, xorg.conf?
[09:35] <grace_> ill have to make extra users with sudo privelegs
[09:35] <aftertaf> slew: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:35] <Seveas> -ENOCLUE
[09:35] <omnid> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[09:35] <aftertaf> -E glx module not found
[09:36] <omnid> Probably because I am using Hoary
[09:36] <intelikey> aftertaf: not ./.Xauth*  is it ?
[09:36] <Glossary> DShepherd,  ueaj
[09:36] <thoreauputic> omnid: erm...
[09:36] <darkness_> GRRRRRR! Why can't linux just have a nice easy way to install things like this. Even if it is only newby people like me who use it.
[09:36] <Glossary> DShepherd,  yeah* sorry
[09:36] <omnid> Seems I need to upgrade to Breezy first
[09:36] <intelikey> oh
[09:36] <Glossary> thoreauputic,  thanks for the links ill make sure that ill read em ;)
[09:36] <polpak> darkness_, blame sun and their restrictive licensing
[09:36] <thoreauputic> omnid: have you messed with your sources list?
[09:36] <polpak> darkness_, They won't let anyone distribute java but them
[09:36] <dirkson> BlueEagle: *gets it and laughs : ) *
[09:36] <Glossary> Linux kicks ass btw.. seriously..
[09:36] <omnid> I don't even know what that is yet haha
[09:36] <zxsykco> aftertaf Install nvidia-glx and then type sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and restart the xserver.
[09:37] <thoreauputic> omnid: heh
[09:37] <darkness_> Is there something easier to install that will still let me play java games and use java chat rooms?
[09:37] <J_Element> hello , umm any one can help  me how to install my sound card driver on ubuntu ?
[09:37] <aftertaf> slew:  you get that?
[09:37] <topyli> darkness_: linux distros have arranged very easy installation. java is out of their reach though
[09:37] <DShepherd> Glossary: type smeg.... that will allow you to do your stuff
[09:37] <polpak> omnid, You need to install the universe and multiverse repos, but that probably won't help you with kubunut-desktop
[09:37] <thoreauputic> omnid: you can get kubuntu-desktop on hoary
[09:37] <Seveas> omnid, hoary has kubuntu-desktop too
[09:37] <slew> aftertaf sorry.. about the path? im looking at it now
[09:37] <Seveas> omnid, I think you daon't have any internet repositories enabled :)
[09:37] <topyli> darkness_: just calm down and install sun java
[09:37] <aftertaf> thx zxsykco its for slew
[09:37] <polpak> topyli, He's trying to
[09:37] <omnid> Yeah I need the universe and multiverse stuff as well.
[09:37] <intelikey> yep
[09:38] <omnid> Seveas: It might have to do with me being on wifi also
[09:38] <aftertaf> slew:  "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" and then type "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" and restart the xserver.
[09:38] <Seveas> !tell omnid about sources
[09:38] <Glossary> DShepherd,  ok now what
[09:38] <Glossary> Menu Editor
[09:38] <zxsykco> np, aftertaf, now I need to find out how to edit this xorg.conf or whatever I need to do to get this ati radeon working!
[09:38] <thoreauputic> !ati
[09:38] <ubotu> hmm... ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[09:38] <slew> aftertaf oh i see it now. sorry its all grey hehe =] 
[09:39] <Glossary> DShepherd,  still here?
[09:39] <DShepherd> Glossary: select where you want your app to be installed in the left panel
[09:40] <aftertaf> zxsykco:  if you know the name of your ati driver, you can type sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg then swap the module name and remove the bus ID. i did it on a mate's pc
[09:40] <topyli> speaking of java, how do ppc users cope with java applets? they just don't?
[09:40] <DShepherd> Glossary: i would pick Internet :) but it's up to you
[09:40] <Glossary> DShepherd, allright and ill add a new entry??
[09:40] <DShepherd> Glossary: there you go....easy isnt it!! :)
[09:41] <thoreauputic> topyli: I hate java anyway ;)
[09:41] <zxsykco> aftertaf, How do you remove the busID?
[09:41] <topyli> darkness_: how far did you get with your java installation?
[09:41] <thoreauputic> topyli: it wants to eat my CPU
[09:41] <omnid> Seveas: So how do I use these source lists?
[09:41] <aftertaf> zxsykco:  comment it out ---> #
[09:41] <polpak> thoreauputic, yeah, me too, but Jedit is just too good not to use
[09:41] <Glossary> DShepherd,  just a sec :P in comment what do i put??
[09:41] <zxsykco> And what is this fglrx crap?
[09:41] <aftertaf> omnid:  you edit it    sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:41] <intelikey> eeek i hit the wrong [X]    could you give me that url to the crossover cable again ?
[09:41] <Glossary> DShepherd,  and do i select run in terminal? (i guess not)
[09:41] <zxsykco> instead of ati in xorg.conf?
[09:41] <aftertaf> see the link ubotu sent you. (are you registered with nickserv on this channel?)
[09:42] <topyli> thoreauputic: it does suck. however, many "solutions" at work are built as java applets
[09:42] <DShepherd> Glossary: hmmm you put comments!!! anything you want...really. Something sensible perhaps about the program
[09:42] <DShepherd> Glossary: like Limewire
[09:42] <DShepherd> :)
[09:42] <polpak> intelikey, http://www.duxcw.com/digest/Howto/network/cable/cable5.htm
[09:42] <aftertaf> zxsykco:  ati is a big mess in ubuntu IMHO ...
[09:42] <thoreauputic> topyli: ah, IC - I don't need it as I'm just a home user :)
[09:42] <DShepherd> Glossary: and you guessed right
[09:42] <intelikey> thanks.  :)
[09:43] <Glossary> DShepherd,  okay man in command do i put " ./runLime -sh " ?
[09:43] <dirkson> *thinks for a moment* Is NFS any better/faster/whatever than Samba?
[09:43] <omnid> Seveas: Should I uncomment all the deb commands?
[09:43] <DShepherd> hmm where did  you install it?
[09:43] <DShepherd> Glossary: hmm where did  you install it?
[09:43] <topyli> thoreauputic: like traveling: you make a "travel plan" online, as well as the bill afterwards. no paper solution available anymore :(
[09:43] <zxsykco> I'd have it all squared away if hotplug, etc, didn't notice the i810 driver onboard.. I've though about removing it from the kernel. But damn I'm lazy and am hoping for a work around.
[09:43] <DShepherd> Glossary: limewire that is
[09:44] <thoreauputic> topyli: ah, no quill pens or ink either - sad ;-)
[09:44] <Glossary> here ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Programs/LimeWire/LimeWire$
[09:44] <omnid> or just anyone
[09:44] <aftertaf> zxsykco:  cant you put the intel module in blacklist?
[09:44] <zxsykco> blacklist?
[09:44] <thoreauputic> topyli: IT is sometimes used for ridiculously simple things that only require a pencil and paper :)
[09:45] <omnid> The sources list, I should just uncomment all of them then have it read the file?
[09:45] <dirkson> *thinks for a moment* Is NFS any better/faster/whatever than Samba?
[09:45] <aftertaf> yeah, it tells hotplug to not load a certain module
[09:45] <viviersf> does any1 know michael machs nick ?
[09:45] <DShepherd> ~/Programs/LimeWire/LimeWire/runlimewire.sh... or whateva that should be
[09:45] <jmspeex> How can I disable gamserver (apt-get remove won't let me)?
[09:45] <boogie> once i download a game, what application should i use to play it?
[09:45] <zxsykco> Hmmmn, that would work perfectly, I'd gather.
[09:45] <Glossary> DShepherd, aight thanks man ;) !!
[09:45] <windex> i know this is probably a dumb question, but where do I find the folder to place audio and video codecs for Totem?
[09:45] <zxsykco> man hotplug?
[09:45] <jmspeex> It seems to have the same plague as fam as far as I'm concerned: way too much CPU overhead.
[09:45] <aftertaf> zxsykco:  hehe i decline all responsibility for consequences  ;)
[09:45] <thoreauputic> dirkson: If you use linux only on your LAN, i think NFS is faster and easier
[09:45] <DShepherd> Glossary: worked?
[09:45] <aftertaf> !cigarette
[09:45] <ubotu> It's bad to smoke, but aftertaf needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)
[09:45] <topyli> thoreauputic: yeah, or a simple web form on a database
[09:46] <Glossary> DShepherd, it should.. just a sec
[09:46] <thoreauputic> dirkson: but NFS is not very secure
[09:46] <Glossary> um
[09:46] <Glossary> Details: Failed to execute child process "~/Programs/LimeWire/LimeWire/runLime.sh" (No such file or directory)
[09:46] <Glossary> :p
[09:46] <Victorjiang> what does 'wb someone'mean?
[09:46] <zxsykco> Well, I can go into CLI with the ati I can't start the xserver.
[09:46] <intelikey> welcome back
[09:46] <Glossary> Victorjiang,  welcome back
[09:46] <DShepherd> Glossary: mine worked
[09:46] <Victorjiang> :)
[09:46] <zxsykco> If I had an xorgconfig that would do, as I could specify which driver for the xserver to use.
[09:47] <Glossary> the exact command is ./runLime.sh
[09:47] <zxsykco> Or if I knew the proper crap to change I could edit xorg.conf manually, but I don't know the names.
[09:47] <dirkson> thoreauputic: Ahhh, ok...... Well, I'm on a laptop, and I may be connecting on demand to other people's M$ os computers, so I should probably leave Samba enabled... And if I do that, it'd probably be just as easy not to worry about NFS and just run everything through Samba, no?
[09:47] <intelikey> np = ?
[09:47] <intelikey> no problem
[09:47] <Glossary> DShepherd,  the exact command is ./runLime.sh
[09:47] <omnid> I saved the sources list with the comments removed but I do not know how to execute it
[09:47] <Glossary> DShepherd,  that's what i put in the directory of the program
[09:47] <thoreauputic> dirkson: yes, that sounds logical :)
[09:47] <polpak> omnid, sudo apt-get update
[09:48] <omnid> doh
[09:48] <omnid> Thanks
[09:48] <DShepherd> Glossary: yeah....I know open smeg again
[09:48] <slew> aftertaf ok, glx was already installed. startx as user has problems: Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o": No symbols found
[09:48] <topyli> Glossary: perhaps you need to make a little script that cd's to the directory and runs ./runlime from there. the runlime script might be stupid and assume you are in that dir
[09:48] <Glossary> DShepherd,  done
[09:48] <dirkson> thoraeputic: Fair enough : ) Thanks a lot!
[09:48] <zxsykco> Does anyone remember the old xf86config and Xorgconfig? Does ubuntu have any equivalent?
[09:48] <zxsykco> Something that walks you through generating an xorg.conf file?
[09:49] <pavelich> can you run linux on a mac
[09:49] <DShepherd> Glossary: right click limewire unda internet
[09:49] <zxsykco> Yes.
[09:49] <intelikey> xorg[tab] 
[09:49] <intelikey> zxsykco: ^
[09:49] <Glossary> DShepherd,  aight and properties
[09:49] <topyli> zxsykco: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:49] <Glossary> topyli, ill try DShepherd 's idea first man :)
[09:49] <aftertaf> zxsykco:  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesnt do that?
[09:49] <DShepherd> Glossary: and click browse and locate runlime.sh
[09:49] <zxsykco> Get the powerpc version, pavelich
[09:49] <zxsykco> Not sure, havent' tried.
[09:49] <kookanurranz67> I am looking for the sufix' for ubuntu linux, does anyone know of a URL that can help me?
[09:49] <pavelich> that was a dumb question sorry i have an ubuntu mac cd right next to me
[09:49] <aftertaf> slew:  ok, but sdoes x start as normal user?
[09:49] <rob_p> zxsykco:  What are you trying to do?
[09:50] <slew> aftertaf plus Symbol __glXgetActiveScreen from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved! [that one is twice
[09:50] <polpak> kookanurranz67, suffix?
[09:50] <pavelich> lol
[09:50] <Glossary> DShepherd,  worked ;)
[09:50] <slew> aftertaf it starts and then quits right away
[09:50] <zxsykco> rob_p, I am trying to get my ati radeon working with xorg.
[09:50] <DShepherd> Glossary: click ok...and you should be in busines!!!
[09:50] <aftertaf> slew:  run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-*xorg and say no to DRI
[09:50] <J_Element> can any one tell me how to use alsa to get my sound card installed
[09:50] <DShepherd> ahh great!!
[09:50] <DShepherd> Glossary: now...go and rule the world!!
[09:50] <aftertaf> slew:  run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and say no to DRI
[09:50] <zxsykco> And I have an onboard i810 that gets in the way of the autmagic conf generatin.
[09:50] <rob_p> zxsykco:  I thought you mentioned an i810 chipset.
[09:50] <polpak> zxsykco, did you sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:50] <slew> k..
[09:51] <rob_p> zxsykco:  Oh, I see!
[09:51] <zxsykco> No not yet.
[09:51] <aftertaf> zxsykco:  dpkg-reconfigure doesnt ask you which driver you want?
[09:51] <zxsykco> Should it?
[09:51] <polpak> aftertaf, he hasn't tried it
[09:51] <zxsykco> I havemn't tried it yet.
[09:51] <topyli> zxsykco: sure it does
[09:51] <aftertaf> it should
[09:51] <zxsykco> Hmmn.
[09:51] <zxsykco> I shall be back crying like a baby or thanking you all for your assistance.
[09:51] <zxsykco> brb ^_^
[09:52] <aftertaf> me2
[09:52] <intelikey> yeah on board...........
[09:52] <rob_p> zxsykco:  I've got the i810 in my laptop and had to do a few things to get the proper resolution, etc.  Just thought that if you were trying to get yours working with your i810, I might be able to offer some assistance.
[09:53] <slew> how much is 128meg in kilobytes?
[09:53] <polpak> slew, 128*1024
[09:53] <kookanurranz67> 1024 kb per meg
[09:53] <intelikey> echo $((128 * 1024))
[09:53] <kubuntu_guy> slew 10247 k = I meg
[09:53] <El_Che> 128*1024
[09:53] <aftertaf> looool intelikey
[09:53] <Madpilot> 131072
[09:53] <El_Che> 131072
[09:54] <slew> hehe thanks
[09:54] <Seveas> !128*1024
[09:54] <ubotu> 131072
[09:54] <kookanurranz67> sounds right
[09:54] <El_Che> slew: exec 128 * 1024
[09:54] <Warter> are there any usenet clients for ubuntu?
[09:54] <intelikey> aftertaf:  ?
[09:54] <aftertaf> echo . . . .
[09:54] <Seveas> Warter, pan (gui) slrn (command-line) evolution
[09:54] <intelikey> yeah
[09:55] <aftertaf> 1000* ways to calculate math in cli :)
[09:55] <intelikey> you know what that does don't you ?
[09:55] <dirkson> *pokes at his other computer* Removing keyboard errors at launch is pretty well controlled by the bios, correct? No way to fool it with any other software?
[09:55] <slew> aftertaf use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[09:55] <Seveas> dirkson, correct
[09:55] <aftertaf> slew no
[09:55] <slew> k
[09:55] <ookami> is mythTV working in ubuntu? i cant get it to run, and im totally new to this...
[09:55] <intelikey> yes but that does not assume that anything besides bash it there.
[09:55] <Warter> how do you get your bios to see a firewire drive?
[09:55] <kookanurranz67> hey, i thing ubuntu is millions of times better then ms windows:)
[09:55] <Warter> so you can set it to primary boot
[09:55] <Seveas> _eins, _zwei _drei
[09:55] <aftertaf> kookanurranz67:  hehe :)
[09:55] <DShepherd> slew: 128 Mb in kb <-- works great in google.....google is your fren
[09:56] <aftertaf> Warter:  tyour bios needs to support external boot devices
[09:56] <crashprone> I have my mom on Ubuntu.. Muah!
[09:56] <Warter> nothing you can do about it?>
[09:56] <crashprone> I think I'm switching to it soon.
[09:56] <qoo> is there anyway to edit a dual loader in ubuntu?
[09:56] <dirkson> Saveas: Ahh, that's too bad..... Any sort of simple loop-back device I could plug into the keyboard slot instead? Preferably one homemade from paperclips? :D
[09:56] <Seveas> crashprone, the sooner the better :)
[09:56] <Seveas> dirkson, any modern bios can ignore keyboard errors...
[09:56] <aftertaf> qoo:  yep... /boot/grub/menu.lst is the file
[09:56] <kookanurranz67> i have a few people here in NZ interested
[09:56] <DShepherd> crashprone: there's enough ubuntu for everyone
[09:57] <kookanurranz67> so i sent a few CD's out
[09:57] <dirkson> Seveas: So we both agree I have a problem on my hands ;)
[09:57] <slew> DShepherd i dont have an xserver working yet nor do i have a text based browser installed.
[09:57] <Seveas> dirkson, hm?
[09:57] <dirkson> Seveas: Not modern. Propriatary and not modern. But, hey, it was free!
[09:57] <qoo> thanks af
[09:57] <Warter> does anyone know anything about os x 86?
[09:57] <qoo> aftertaf
[09:57] <qoo> *
[09:58] <Seveas> dirkson, old proprietary ones should be able to ignore keyboard too...
[09:58] <intelikey>  /exec -o echo "128 x 1024 = $((128 * 1024)) "      <--- if i had typed that aftertaf then i would have expected you to laugh :)
[09:58] <ni1s> Quesetion: Has anyone here had the problem with mozilla flash-plugin sound lagging behind?
[09:58] <DShepherd> slew: what browser lynx?
[09:58] <Seveas> Warter, that's kinda off topic in here
[09:58] <ni1s> people still using lynx?
[09:58] <dirkson> Seveas: Really? It doesn't give any options in the bios, and I think it freezes when I try..... Well, hey, I'm not on it. I'll try really quick and see what happens
[09:58] <Seveas> ni1s, yes, flash is proprietary crap we cannot fix...
[09:59] <slew> aftertaf say no to "Write default DRI section to configuration file?"
[09:59] <crashprone> nils: I think I have, but that was when I was using an other Linux distro.  More recent distros I tried didn't do that that I know of.
[09:59] <DShepherd> ni1s: used it about 10 mins ago
[09:59] <aftertaf> sledge__:  yeaah, say no
[09:59] <Glossary> my Ubuntu Just CRASHED!
[09:59] <crashprone> Awhh.
[09:59] <Seveas> dirkson, usually the option is 'halt on' and you ken select 'all errors' 'all but keyboard' 'all but keyboard and disks' etc...
[09:59] <aftertaf> Glossary:  dont put the 240 volts in the usb port then!!! ;)
[09:59] <dirkson> Seveas: Macromedia has me particularly upset. They're lagging behind AMAZINGLY in their devving. I mean, come on, 64 bit computers are OUT now.
[09:59] <Glossary> aftertaf,  :P
[10:00] <aftertaf> lol slew
[10:00] <kookanurranz67> can i ask a question and get someone to answer me?  interesting question
[10:00] <aftertaf> sorry sledge__ :] 
[10:00] <ni1s> well yeah, lynx is great, i've used it alot back in my days(read: days(!), but why not use links or w3m..?
[10:00] <Glossary> hum is there DivX for linux?
[10:00] <aftertaf> kookanurranz67:  to answer it, yes! :)
[10:00] <intelikey> lol
[10:00] <ookami> after doing: sudo apt-get update i get the following errors all over the terminal: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4614
[10:00] <DShepherd> kookanurranz67: maybe..
[10:00] <crashprone> Glossary: I believe so..
[10:00] <kookanurranz67> lol
[10:00] <Seveas> !tell Glossary about w32codecs
[10:01] <omnid> The updates are applying
[10:01] <ni1s> So there's no way to was Madness Combat with the sound in sync?
[10:01] <vlassic> should i be warned about dual booting my iBook with os x and ubuntu?
[10:01] <kookanurranz67> i installed Ubuntu, and installed KDE, i mainly use gnome but sometimes use KDE is that classed as a dual OS or not?  Ubuntu and Kubuntu?
[10:01] <aftertaf> omnid:  hehe ;) welcome to supercow apt :)
[10:01] <aftertaf> kookanurranz67:  no.
[10:01] <dirkson> Seveas: No such luck. It mostly just gives me options for which order I want things to boot in.
[10:01] <omnid> Would they upgrade me to breezy as well?
[10:01] <DShepherd> kookanurranz67: no
[10:01] <crashprone> Glossary: I think you can get either DivX or some XviD open source alternate, both are available for Linux.
[10:01] <ookami> why is it that after doing a "sudo apt-get update" i get the following errors all over the terminal: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4614
[10:01] <omnid> I didn't notice it in the install list
[10:01] <aftertaf> kookanurranz67:  ou can have 10 window managers if you want, and 10 kernel versions too.
[10:01] <kookanurranz67> ok thank you
[10:02] <ni1s> ookami what are you trying to get at?
[10:02] <Seveas> ookami, remove the non-working source from your sources.list...
[10:02] <kookanurranz67> i was curious cause if i log into KDE it says i am in Kubuntu and vice versa
[10:02] <DShepherd> kookanurranz67: your welcome
[10:02] <ni1s> apt doesnt break on error so whats to problem?
[10:02] <qoo> aftertaf, im really new to linux, and ubuntu is my first linux based os, how would i go about editing the menu.lst to get my dual loader to work again?
[10:02] <kookanurranz67> i was a lil bit confused
[10:02] <Warter> does anyone know if i have to compile the .bin files on my win driver disk before i install with ndiswrapper as opposed to just the .inf file
[10:02] <Seveas> ookami, antesis.freecontrib.org is an unsupported source, better not use it...
[10:02] <Warter> ??
[10:02] <dirkson> Seveas: *blinks* However, it really doesn't seem to notice that I've taken out its keyboard :D
[10:03] <DShepherd> kookanurranz67: kde and gnome or just desktop managers....still GNU/Linux underneath :)
[10:03] <aftertaf> qoo:  are you in gnome,  if so, open a terminal and type sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:03] <intelikey> if you log into kde you are in kubuntu
[10:03] <ookami> Seveas, ok. will remove. (will this cause problems with software already installed if i want to remove it later? )
[10:03] <Seveas> Warter, you need an .inf and a .sys file
[10:03] <Seveas> ookami, no, removing is always possible
[10:03] <Warter> for a wireless card?
[10:03] <agtnz> smbclient
[10:03] <kookanurranz67> if i log into gnome i am in ubuntu
[10:03] <aftertaf> !tell qoo about grub
[10:03] <vlassic> no insight for setting up dual boot on an iBook?
[10:03] <Seveas> Warter, yes
[10:03] <cafuego> Seveas: The .bin might be firmware (depending on card)
[10:04] <Seveas> cafuego, I don't think ndiswrapper can handle that?
[10:04] <DShepherd> kookanurranz67: to be more specific ....ubuntu running...in Kubuntu you just kde and in ubuntu you have gnome....
[10:04] <DShepherd> just have kde*
[10:04] <intelikey> kookanurranz67: yes
[10:04] <slew> ok, after doing the config i tried startx and got: (EE) Failed to initilize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)  plu the other message about No symbols found.
[10:04] <omnid> huh I guess it's breezy badger now technically
[10:04] <Warter> i heard something about a compiler for multi .bins
[10:04] <cafuego> Seveas: Possibly, dunno :-)
[10:04] <aftertaf> brb cigarette
[10:04] <omnid> how can I check what version number I am?
[10:04] <locomorto> omnid: of ubuntu?
[10:04] <Warter> no kernel
[10:04] <ilba7r> I am installing ubuntu on my notebook now. Is there a way to get the pakcage list that I have on my desktop and install it to the notebook. Frankly I can not remember some of the package names that I installed but use frequently?
[10:05] <thoreauputic> vlassic: I used the OS-X disc to divide the hard drive in two, then installed OS-X, and installed Ubuntu on the free space ( no problems)
[10:05] <omnid> Yeah
[10:05] <glick> omnid, uname -ae
[10:05] <glick> uname -a
[10:05] <DShepherd> omnid: cat /etc/issue
[10:05] <Glossary> what do you guys suggest other than Totem
[10:05] <Glossary> ?
[10:05] <locomorto> omnid: system -> home -> about
[10:05] <polpak> Glossary, what's wrong w/ totem?
[10:05] <slew> aftertaf ok, after doing the config i tried startx and got: (EE) Failed to initilize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)  plu the other message about No symbols found.
[10:05] <aftertaf> Glossary:  beep-media player
[10:05] <thoreauputic> Glossary: try totem-xine
[10:05] <slew> Glossary try vlc
[10:05] <vlassic> thoreau: so it has to be purely free space then?
[10:05] <locomorto> If its 2.12.x then breezy
[10:05] <topyli> Glossary: nothing! is suggest totem :)
[10:05] <locomorto> If its 2.10.x hoary
[10:06] <aftertaf> slew:  check your xorg.conf, make sure the driver is nvidia in smallcase
[10:06] <Warter> thoreauputic: how do you feel about me using my 3rd gen 40gb ipod over fire wire to boot my HP desktop to 10.4.3??
[10:06] <locomorto> If its 2.10.x warty
[10:06] <intelikey> ilda7r    dpkg -la
[10:06] <cafuego> vlassic: I believe nalioth has successfully resized an HFS+ partition with 'parted' as well.
[10:06] <locomorto> If its 2.8.x warty **
[10:06] <thoreauputic> vlassic: well yes - you are setting up a linux filesystem on the free space
[10:06] <simbad> Hello. I googled for this problem, but suggested solutions doesnt help. xEmacs21 looks very ugly using breezy (It looked fine with hoary). Fonts are too big, also if xemacs emphasize words, the words are too fat. Any ideas?
[10:06] <ookami> Is there a input method editor for Japanese?
[10:06] <ilba7r> thanks intelikey
[10:06] <omnid> You mean like an IME?
[10:06] <vlassic> thanx
[10:06] <cafuego> ookami: Yes.
[10:06] <omnid> I'm wondering this as well.
[10:06] <intelikey> ilda7r  something like    dpkg -la > install.list
[10:06] <omnid> Also it says I am still using 5.0.4
[10:06] <ookami> yeah, i remember in windows where i could type romanji, and it woulc convert to kana.
[10:06] <thoreauputic> Warter: I'm toatall indifferent ;-)
[10:07] <glick> damn i tink im getting a head cold
[10:07] <Glossary> I dunno i just wanna try something else
[10:07] <cafuego> ookami: I saw someone use a chinese one on the weekend, I'm sure there would be a japanese one too.
[10:07] <khermans> I can't lload PHP pages in Apache -- Firefox keeps popping up phtml files -- so i dont think the PHP directives are being seen by Apache2
[10:07] <Glossary> maybe there's better :)
[10:07] <glick> cause of all these scumbags with colds
[10:07] <omnid> I mean 5.04 Hoary
[10:07] <MasterPUA> hello ubunto people
[10:07] <cafuego> khermans: add the .phtml extension to the .php handler.
[10:07] <glick> you know that in japan if someone gets a cold they wear medical masks over their mouths?
[10:07] <intelikey> and on the other machine       apt-get install `cat install.list`        ilda7r
[10:07] <ookami> Hi MasterPua
[10:07] <ilba7r> intelikey than i have to read the list to install it right
[10:07] <khermans> i dont see php in the /etc/apache2/mods-available
[10:07] <Glossary> sup MasterPUA
[10:07] <glick> now thats curtisy
[10:07] <glick> thats a civilized nation
[10:07] <ilba7r> ah ok thanx intelikey
[10:07] <MasterPUA> hello ookami and Glossary, are u both ubuntu fans
[10:07] <khermans> cafuego, no the file ends in .php
[10:08] <khermans> still not working
[10:08] <cafuego> khermans: odd. Check /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php4.conf
[10:08] <khermans> cafuego, yeah its not there
[10:08] <Warter> tell me about ndiswrapper
[10:08] <viviersf> lol something funny
[10:08] <Glossary> MasterPUA,  i guess the whole network here is an Ubuntu fan
[10:08] <agtnz> Whats a package with a samba share browser?
[10:08] <Warter> !tell me about ndiswrapper
[10:08] <DShepherd> Glossary: MasterPUA yup!
[10:08] <ookami> MasterPua, sure. I keep learning mroe and more as i go... (still very new at this)
[10:08] <cafuego> khermans: Then libapache2-mod-php4 is probably not installed or properly configured..
[10:08] <viviersf> tell the dude next to me to apt-get install drupal
[10:08] <Glossary> topyli, Totem cant play dvd :(
[10:08] <viviersf> then he picked up the phone to do it
[10:08] <Glossary> DShepherd, can you help too? :/
[10:08] <topyli> athcool takes 10 C off my processor temperature. i can't believe it's not in main
[10:09] <omnid> Hey ah despite just updating it's telling me I am still using Hoary Hedgehog
[10:09] <DShepherd> Glossary: what do you mean it cant play dvds?
[10:09] <khermans> cafuego, yeah its not, weird!
[10:09] <Glossary> DShepherd,  dvd movies?
[10:09] <DShepherd> Glossary: tried putting in the dvd first :)?
[10:09] <topyli> Glossary: sure it can. if you don't have the dvd-cracking libs, nothing will play dvds
[10:09] <MasterPUA> so... does linux have a GUI these days?
[10:09] <Glossary> DShepherd,  um yea? :P
[10:09] <khermans> cafuego, i had no packages required for webcalendar -- then installed webcalendar -- but i wouldnt think this should have been a dependency
[10:09] <intelikey> ilba7r you may need to make sure that the file names are all you input     maybe a filter on the first command        dpkg -la  | grep ii | cut -d' '  -f 3 > install.list          you can play with the filters untill you get the desired results.
[10:09] <rowanjl> Hey guys, just got my copy of 5.10 in the mail, and I've just installed it
[10:09] <topyli> MasterPUA: no it doesn't. X runs on it fine though
[10:09] <Glossary> topyli, whats the dvd-cracking libs? and how can i know if i have em
[10:09] <cafuego> khermans: isn't webcalendar a cgi?
[10:09] <khermans> cafuego, i mean the php4 module is necessary
[10:10] <rowanjl> but for some reason it would refuse to install either LILO or GRUB, any ideas?
[10:10] <cafuego> khermans: Weird, mebbe file a bug.
[10:10] <khermans> cafuego, no it uses php
[10:10] <rowanjl> I'm on the Live CD atm
[10:10] <topyli> Glossary: i don't have a dvd drive but read the restricted formats page on the wiki
[10:10] <MasterPUA> rowanjl, try using FOX
[10:10] <J_Element> ubotu, alsa
[10:10] <ubotu> [alsa]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[10:10] <topyli> !tell Glossary about restricted
[10:10] <rowanjl> MasterPUA, FOX?
[10:10] <intelikey> ilba7r: also dpkg may have a switch for only file names    'man dpkg'
[10:10] <holycow> hey guys ... if you have a linux workstation in say an office setting, how do you prevent users from resetting the root pass to null in the shadow file?
[10:10] <ilba7r> will do that intelikey thanx for the trick
[10:10] <dirkson> grace_: Wb grace
[10:11] <intelikey> np
[10:11] <khermans> cafuego, oh i think apache-common was needed to -- but i purged that, it could be the problem
[10:11] <shaji> i want 5.10 addon cd
[10:11] <khermans> cafuego, thanks for the help :-)
[10:11] <MasterPUA> msg me rowanjl
[10:11] <holycow> it seems to me that unless you lock down the bios to prevent booting into a live cd, nothing can be done?
[10:11] <Seveas> shaji, then create one
[10:12] <intelikey> holycow: make it stick it's tongue out.
[10:12] <ni1s> dosent ubutu have the boot.img, root.img, and net-drivers.img?
[10:12] <ni1s> Floppy images that is
[10:12] <Seveas> ni1s, no
[10:12] <Glossary> topyli, aight downloadin
[10:12] <intelikey> use the cup holder for what it's made for, set your coffie on it.
[10:12] <Seveas> Ubuntu only has an install CD and DVD
[10:12] <rowanjl> MasterPUA, did my message come through?
[10:13] <ni1s> Seveas, why?
[10:13] <dirkson> *reaches over and feels his heatsink* Hmm........ Warmer than I'd really like it.
[10:13] <ompaul> holycow, you can lock grub with a password - you can lock the bios you can encrypt the filesystem at the end of the day the question is how high do you need to raise the bar?
[10:13] <grace_> i wonder what happened there
[10:13] <agtnz> ls
[10:13] <grace_> lost the ethernet connection
[10:13] <Seveas> because installing from floppies is obsolete
[10:13] <grace_> my opther boxes worked fine though
[10:13] <slew> aftertaf in xorg reconfig it wants to know where my card is, its an agp but it wont let me put in AGP 1:0:0, do i need to worry about this?
[10:13] <Seveas> you can use a network instll or a cd/dvd
[10:13] <dirkson> Ompaul: Put the computer in a safe.
[10:13] <Glossary> It sais that software is not authenticated do i continue anyway?
[10:13] <grace_> i had to dis able an dreanable the network in this edubuntu
[10:14] <holycow> ompaul, well, at minimum not having it so simple as a text editor to reset the pass would be nice
[10:14] <holycow> although a windows hive file reset is trivial it still can't be done without hex editing for example
[10:14] <shaji> i cant work gcc mm players whats the problem
[10:14] <MasterPUA> rowanjl I can't send you private messages
[10:14] <intelikey> don't forget pulling the harddrive.....
[10:14] <topyli> Glossary: yes
[10:14] <MasterPUA> can we establish a DCC connection?
[10:14] <shaji> any body help me
[10:14] <MasterPUA> Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems,
[10:14] <DShepherd> ok guys....its after 4 in the moring in Jamaica....this ubuntu fan needs to get some sleep
[10:14] <ompaul> holycow, take this to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want my thoughts
[10:15] <Glossary> topyli,  well if some1 takes over my system imma kick your ass :D
[10:15] <ni1s> shaji what the problem?
[10:15] <topyli> Glossary: the software may be illegal in your country anyway :(
[10:15] <shaji> hai nils
[10:15] <Glossary> trust me
[10:15] <rowanjl> MasterPUA, #rowanjl
[10:15] <holycow> will do one sec
[10:15] <MasterPUA> ty rowanjl
[10:15] <Glossary> nothing is illegal in my country topyli  :D
[10:15] <shaji> i am install 5.10 ver
[10:15] <topyli> Glossary: someone may well crack your box but it's not going to be the dvd libs :)
[10:15] <Glossary> topyli,  do i need to reboot?
[10:15] <intelikey> shaji: mplayer is in repos
[10:15] <shaji> then i can working gcc mmplyaer
[10:15] <topyli> Glossary: you almost never need to reboot
[10:15] <DShepherd> so... remember Ubuntu=brown sugar, who said too much sugar wasnt good!! peace!! i am out
[10:15] <shaji> yes
[10:16] <Glossary> topyli,  yea about cracking my box.. is there any kind of protection
[10:16] <Glossary> ?
[10:16] <thoreauputic> !tell shaji about restricted
[10:16] <ni1s> shaji: you want to compile mplayer youself?
[10:16] <shaji> i have 5.4 and addon cd
[10:16] <khermans> Even after installing libapache-mod-php4, Apache2 is not accepting the PHP directive -- i notice that it is not listed in mods-enabled
[10:16] <DjOfWeedPc3> hi @ all i search a german channel plz query me or invite
[10:16] <Glossary> Anti Virus or smth i dunno
[10:16] <shaji> that is working fine
[10:16] <zxsykco> OI! What does 0000:02:0a.0 translate into?
[10:16] <ompaul> !tell DjOfWeedPc3 about de
[10:16] <dirkson> Error message: IP Masquerade has not been enabled in the kernel.   ....... I, uh....... I'm not 100% sure where to go looking for that. Would it be somewhere in the kernel menuconfig?
[10:17] <shaji> i replace 5.4 to 5.10
[10:17] <J_Element> ubotu,  samba
[10:17] <ubotu> from memory, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[10:17] <zxsykco> I am lazy with the hex conversions..
[10:17] <shaji> my addon is old
[10:17] <ompaul> Glossary, that is not an issue on Linux
[10:17] <topyli> Glossary: yes. keep your box up to date with security updates. no antivirus or firewall necessary
[10:17] <Glossary> so what if i download a virus
[10:17] <Glossary> aight
[10:17] <ni1s> shaji: Run Synaptic
[10:17] <Glossary> Its up-to-date ;)
[10:17] <topyli> Glossary: linux-'s virus suppport sucks. it won't work on linux :)
[10:17] <thoreauputic> shaji: read the URLs ubotu sent you in pm
[10:17] <ompaul> topyli, well put
[10:17] <Glossary> aight aight :D
[10:17] <zxsykco> Does anyone know?
[10:17] <ni1s> "linux-'s virus suppport" haha
[10:18] <crashprone> That was a good one.
[10:18] <Glossary> how come there's no Google earth for linux?!
[10:18] <ni1s> is there a kernel patch for that one?
[10:18] <ompaul> Glossary, ask in #google
[10:18] <Seveas> Glossary, because google has not released a linux version,, duh...
[10:18] <DShepherd> Glossary: cause it runs on linux!! :)
[10:18] <shaji> thoreauputic i can download addon cd any website
[10:18] <iluciv> can anyone tell me where cvs files are supposed to go
[10:18] <omnid> okay I found the IME thingey but it doesnt work how I want it at all
[10:18] <crashprone> It sucks, yes.  I hear there's an open source Google Earth equivalent.. called, uh... "World Wind" by NASA and open source-ites. ... but it's not for Linux either!
[10:18] <Tomcat_> Glossary: Have you tried with wine?
[10:18] <selinium> Morning all! :)
[10:18] <dirkson> Say all... I'm getting this error message: IP Masquerade has not been enabled in the kernel.   ....... I, uh....... I'm not 100% sure where to go looking for that. Would it be somewhere in the kernel menuconfig?
[10:18] <ni1s> Yes, but dose it run on a beawolf
[10:18] <khermans> I am having trouble getting Apache2 to see the PHP directives -- i am running on Ubuntu but dont see the php modules in mods-available or mods-enabled
[10:18] <iluciv> /usr/src/linux???
[10:19] <Tomcat_> Glossary: Pre-0.9 wine wouldn't run it, but it might work now.
[10:19] <Madpilot> topyli: nice way to describe viruses & Linux ;)
[10:19] <shaji> ni1s i want addon cd
[10:19] <thoreauputic> shaji: for heaven's sake - read what I told you and follow the directions
[10:19] <topyli> Glossary: if you have a mail server for windows clients, you may want antivirus on the server. a firewall is handy on some special occasions too. but on a normal desktop system, forget them
[10:19] <Glossary> Tomcat_,  ok,  but what's wine :/ im new here
[10:19] <ni1s> shaji: the 5.10 cd?
[10:19] <omnid> As you can see I can type japanese but it does not type how I want it to. I will type "nihongo" as an example and I get this: 
[10:19] <zxsykco> Please tell me what the hex values 0000:02:0a.0 translates into decimal!
[10:19] <Tomcat_> Glossary: www.winehq.com (there are Ubuntu packets)... it's a program to run Windows apps on Linux.
[10:19] <raphink> Glossary: Google has never contributed to open source and is not gonna begin now it seems... They use opensource for sure though ...
[10:19] <Tomcat_> Glossary: If you are new it might be tricky to run it though.
[10:19] <Glossary> oh like a windows emulator or smth
[10:19] <Glossary> ?
[10:19] <dirkson> Omnid: That is not nihongo.
[10:20] <khermans> zxsykco, do it in yer head
[10:20] <omnid> which is not the word I intended at all. In fact that's in katakana.
[10:20] <crashprone> Yup.
[10:20] <Tomcat_> Glossary: Yes, but Wine Is Not an Emulator :)
[10:20] <zxsykco> I don't know how.
[10:20] <thoreauputic> omnid: I see japanese looking characters here
[10:20] <topyli> Madpilot: yeah, i wrote that on usenet a long time ago and it was a success. these days i always say that :)
[10:20] <khermans> 02 == 32
[10:20] <DShepherd> raphink: what about summer of code?
[10:20] <crashprone> *snrk*
[10:20] <Madpilot> raphink: they have contributed to open source, actually - look up the Google Summer of Code
[10:20] <khermans> oa == 10
[10:20] <omnid> dirkson: I am aware that is my point
[10:20] <thoreauputic> omnid: but then I don't read Japanese :)
[10:20] <zxsykco> khermans, I don't know how.
[10:20] <khermans> just change to 16-base
[10:20] <shaji> ni1s thai i have i want gcc playes and other softwares are in one cd
[10:20] <Glossary> well i was guessing that (win-e) windows emulator :/
[10:20] <Tomcat_> Glossary: Fact is: Wine <0.9 wouldn't run the latest Google Picasa and Google Earth... the 0.9 version runs the latest Picasa... so it might also run Google Earth.
[10:20] <DShepherd> raphink: read --- > http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html
[10:20] <dirkson> Omnid: I know that ya' know : ) But that word is so Not-Nihongo that I felt I had to remark upon it.
[10:21] <darkness_> Hey, i don't really need JVM on my computer, i mean. The only thing i use it for is chatting and games. I have had enough with games and chatting, well as soon as i find some nice IRC's i'll be fine. Right?
[10:21] <Glossary> Tomcat_,  its okay i dont want it anyway.. i dont want anything related to Windows on my system
[10:21] <Tomcat_> Glossary: Well, Wine is more of a Linux-compiled version of the Windows libraries.
[10:21] <omnid> dirkson: Then do you know how to make it work? I type in even just "n" and get "ni". The hell?
[10:21] <zxsykco> So what does it translate into?
[10:21] <khermans> zxsykco, if I gave you the number 987, you could say that this is equal to 7 * 1 + 8 * 10 + 9 * 16
[10:21] <james_> hello me
[10:21] <crashprone> hello you
[10:21] <khermans> zxsykco, if I gave you the number 987, you could say that this is equal to 7 * 1 + 8 * 10 + 9 * 100
[10:22] <seb__> hello everybody (im a french user)
[10:22] <zxsykco> And?
[10:22] <ni1s> shaji: Why dont you download the software you need with Synaptic?
[10:22] <khermans> do the same with hex
[10:22] <onkarshinde> Is anyone using eclipse in breezy?
[10:22] <rowanjl> So, can anyone help me get LILO or Grub installed?
[10:22] <selinium> jandusion, Are you about?
[10:22] <dirkson> Omnid: No clue how to make it work, unfortunately. I don't know enough Japanese to have tried to put it on my system
[10:22] <rowanjl> I'd love to boot my computer :P
[10:22] <seb__> i ve a problem with my install cdrom
[10:22] <Marlun> I've got hd1 (with windows allready installed), now I'm going to install ubuntu on hd2, when I come to the partitioner in the ubuntu installation theres a boot loader mark (a lightning) next to the windows partition and next to the partition where ubuntu will be installed. Should I keep both of them or should I remove one of the boot loader markers?
[10:22] <zxsykco> I need to know what 0000:02:0a.0 means in decimal.
[10:22] <onkarshinde> rowanjl: Do you have live CD?
[10:22] <omnid> dirkson: I think it is trying to emulate the japanese keyboard. I have no clue where the keys are in one.
[10:22] <khermans> zxsykco, in hexy if you wanted to convert 02 to decimal, you do 2 * 16 + 0 * 16^2
[10:23] <rowanjl> onkarshinde, using it right now :)
[10:23] <zxsykco> So if I wanted to convert hex into dec what would I do?
[10:23] <onkarshinde> seb__: What problem?
[10:23] <martinjh99> Anyone expert in making GDM/KDM Themes???
[10:23] <khermans> zxsykco, dude, just use the damn calculator alrady
[10:23] <zxsykco> And how does that acount for the a?
[10:23] <ni1s> Marlun: Dont touch those, GRUB will take care of that
[10:23] <zxsykco> I do not understand.
[10:23] <seb__> i cant install ubuntu because my cd is "brocken", can i do an install by network with this cd
[10:23] <dirkson> omnid: This is probably the case.... You might be able to find a Japanese/english matching on google. People have undoubtably had this error before.
[10:23] <Warter> "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.10 (enter your version of linux headers or usr the synaptic package manager)" how would i look up this info for ubuntu?
[10:23] <khermans> zxsykco, Apllications -> Accessories > Calc
[10:23] <onkarshinde> rowanjl: Then 'sudo grub-install /dev/hda' command should be fine.
[10:23] <zxsykco> A calculator doesn't help.
[10:23] <ni1s> martinjh99: Wrong place to ask isnt it?
[10:23] <rowanjl> onkarshinde, thanks
[10:23] <omnid> dirkson: 'matching'?
[10:24] <zxsykco> I don't know what to calculate.
[10:24] <zxsykco> Or I would've already.
[10:24] <darkness_> Hey, does anyone know some general "teenchat" IRC... Rooms?
[10:24] <martinjh99> Is it??  No ones awake at #kubuntu... ;)  Thought I'd ask here as they are sorta compatible...
[10:24] <dirkson> omnid: I.E. Someone writing down "n=ni", "Shift+N=no", "Shift+control+N=nu", etc. etc.
[10:24] <onkarshinde> seb__: I suppose not possible in ubuntu yet. Why don't you try writting another CD? Also find md5sum of iso and CD to make sure they are not corrupted
[10:25] <dirkson> omnid: Not exactly a pretty fix, but it might work, you know?
[10:25] <zxsykco> How do I calculate 0000:02:0a.0 to deciaml? It's looks like a funny number to me!
[10:25] <onkarshinde> Is anyone using eclipse in breezy?
[10:25] <topyli> darkness_: try web chats. don't teens prefer those instead of irc?
[10:25] <rob1> topyli, try dalnet
[10:25] <rowanjl> onkarshinde, "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."
[10:25] <ni1s> of EFNET
[10:25] <rowanjl> Installing on /dev/hdb
[10:25] <omnid> dirkson: Well I'd like it more to work similar to window's IME in which you would type "ni" and get... "ni". It would either not show the "n" until the character was complete or just show and english "n".
[10:25] <darkness_> Topyli: Probly, but i don't want java.
[10:26] <zxsykco> binary I understand, hexidecimal......
[10:26] <topyli> or #mandrake :)
[10:26] <slew> aftertaf still broken with the same errors, xorg.conf has driver as "nv"
[10:26] <onkarshinde> Help with eclipse on breezy please.
[10:26] <omnid> dirkson: I guess I'll go google for some Linux IMEs
[10:26] <seb__> thanks, im disapointed by burning another cd, but i ve not the choice !
[10:26] <ni1s> dose anyone know a Torrent client like Azureus but not writen in the horrible slow java?
[10:26] <dirkson> omnid: Ahh, you see, that would be cool. Something like that probably wouldn't be in ubuntu proper, but is probably out there. Remember to search sourceforge directly, too.
[10:27] <ni1s> onkarshinde: never tried it
[10:27] <dirkson> O.o
[10:27] <zxsykco> Does anyone know what 0000:02:0a.0 is in deciaml?
[10:27] <seb__> thank for your help im going to burn  another one !
[10:27] <dirkson> THAT'S an interesting name.
[10:27] <onkarshinde> ni1s: I heard bittornedo is good, never tried though.
[10:27] <linuxgeek2> I folks
[10:27] <linuxgeek2> I am having problems with xine
[10:27] <linuxgeek2> Xine is not playing the videos properly
[10:27] <Warter> i cant read a FAT 32 drive correct?
[10:27] <dirkson> omnid: Sorry I'm not more help :-/
[10:28] <linuxgeek2> I mean wmv format and all
[10:28] <omnid> dirkson: Will do. I think something like this should be automatically included with Ubuntu however. If Windows, why not Ubuntu?
[10:28] <onkarshinde> linuxgeek2: What type of videos?
[10:28] <onkarshinde> Warter: Read/Write
[10:28] <linuxgeek2> windows media format
[10:28] <onkarshinde> !tell linuxgeek2 about w32codecs
[10:28] <Warter> onkarshinde: so i can?
[10:28] <linuxgeek2> And also VCD'S the hue and saturation in xine is different
[10:28] <crashprone> Oh, uh... do that little "tell" thing to me, too.  same topic.  0_o
[10:28] <rowanjl> onkarshinde, any thoughts?
[10:28] <dirkson> omnid: True. But ubuntu is smaller, so there are fewer people that have actually needed this sort of thing for ubuntu.
[10:29] <onkarshinde> Warter: It depends whether you have mounted them in your Ubuntu?
[10:29] <crashprone> !tell crashprone about w32codecs
[10:29] <raphink> ni1s: bittorrent, bittornado, qtorrent, ktorrent, etc.
[10:29] <polpak> Warter, You can, you just have to mount the partition
[10:29] <darkness_> Bye bye all, thanks for your helo
[10:29] <zxsykco> I do not know how to convert hexidecimal to decimal, I need to know what 0000:02:0a.0 is in decimal, would someone mind helping me understand?
[10:29] <onkarshinde> rowanjl: Can you tell me on which HD have you installed Ubuntu?
[10:29] <dirkson> omnid: For example, my modem card- Took me forever to get it working. It worked in the end, but it wasn't built into ubuntu because no one has likely every tried it in ubuntu before.
[10:29] <Warter> i have 1 40gb fat 32 1 160 ntfs and 1 40 gb thats my boot
[10:30] <rowanjl> onkarshinde, on /dev/hdb
[10:30] <zxsykco> This is why I hate linux.
[10:30] <slew> cause you cant get the drivers to do right?
[10:30] <onkarshinde> rowanjl: So is that command giving you any trouble?
[10:30] <rowanjl> onkarshinde, "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."
[10:30] <Warter> will the first fat 32 thats an ipod mount?
[10:30] <omnid> dirkson: Would you submitting the device into the database help that though? With my idea I would have to post it on the forum or something.
[10:30] <dirkson> Say all... I'm getting this error message: IP Masquerade has not been enabled in the kernel.   ....... I, uh....... I'm not 100% sure where to go looking for that. Would it be somewhere in the kernel menuconfig?
[10:30] <kestas> zxsykco, wheres that from?
[10:31] <zxsykco> Where is what from?
[10:31] <kestas> the numbe
[10:31] <rowanjl> onkarshinde, that is to install the boot loader onto /dev/hdb (sudo grub-install /dev/hdb)
[10:31] <ni1s> Ohh, how I love Synaptic
[10:31] <polpak> zxsykco, I don't understand your question.. 0000:02:0a.0 is not a hex number AFAIK.. hex numbers look like 0x13deadbeef981
[10:31] <onkarshinde> rowanjl: Yes right
[10:31] <zxsykco> It is a bus Id location for my ati graphics card.
[10:31] <dirkson> omnid: Well, it might. I've only had ubuntu up for a little under a week, though, so I'm still learning how to report stuff.
[10:31] <onkarshinde> Warter: Please rephrase your question.
[10:31] <kestas> well 02 is decimal 2, 0a is decimal 10
[10:32] <zxsykco> The dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg asks for the location of the graphics card.
[10:32] <zxsykco> lspci -v says it is located at 0000:02:0a.0
[10:32] <slew> zxsykco i just put pci:1:0:0
[10:32] <onkarshinde> zxsykco: what is output of lspci? It will be normnally 1:0:0
[10:32] <slew> zxsykco were having same problems?
[10:32] <zxsykco> slew, we do not have our devices located at the same place, thank you though!
[10:33] <omnid> dirkson: If you haven't already check it out: Applications > System Tools > Ubuntu Driver Database
[10:33] <onkarshinde> zxsykco: Do you have more than one cards? Or an AGP?
[10:33] <dorto> how to add 'realplayer' tab to streamtuner? i installed streamtuner first and then realplayer
[10:34] <zxsykco> I have more than one card yse.
[10:34] <zxsykco> And that is what lspci says.
[10:34] <dirkson> ownid: *nods* I put my information into that thing, yah.
[10:34] <thoreauputic> dorto: there's no "realplayer" tab in streamtuner as such
[10:34] <dirkson> ownid: Pretty cool idea : )
[10:34] <zxsykco> All the devices have the same scheme.
[10:34] <dorto> last time there was a separate tab for real player in streamtuner
[10:34] <dorto> real media
[10:34] <onkarshinde> zxsykco: Can you paste output of lspci in pastebin?
[10:34] <thoreauputic> dorto: oh - never seen that
[10:34] <linuxgeek2> what can I do about the hue and sturation problem in xine while playing vcd's
[10:34] <linuxgeek2> ?
[10:34] <zxsykco> Sure, would you mind joining flood instead?
[10:35] <senectus> can someone spare me a couple of min's I need a web page tested from the outside world and a VNC test as well...
[10:35] <dorto> thoreauputic: is there a way to make streamtuner search for realmedia stream?
[10:35] <onkarshinde> linuxgeek2: how did you install xine?
[10:35] <dorto> *streams
[10:35] <thoreauputic> dorto: I have the breezy version - it has a number of tabs but not specifically realplayer
[10:35] <onkarshinde> senectus: I can
[10:35] <linuxgeek2> onkarshinde, using apt
[10:35] <dirkson> *grins* I love Linux :D
[10:35] <onkarshinde> linuxgeek2: And did you install totem-xine or gxine or xine-ui?
[10:35] <thoreauputic> dorto: in short, I don't know
[10:35] <dorto> k
[10:36] <linuxgeek2> yes gxine works perfectly but I can't see the movies in full screen
[10:36] <crashprone> senectus: Mmmkaay, uh, tell me the page?
[10:36] <linuxgeek2> I want to use xine-ui. But when I use this hue saturation problems
[10:36] <senectus> \msg onkarshinde
[10:36] <thoreauputic> linuxgeek2: did you try hitting "f" ?
[10:36] <onkarshinde> linuxgeek2: This is ridiculous. I have used gxine as well as totem-xine
[10:36] <onkarshinde> senectus: you used wrong \
[10:36] <linuxgeek2> f?
[10:37] <senectus> yupp
[10:37] <senectus> :-P
[10:37] <dorto> can i download equalizer presets for xmms from somewhere?
[10:37] <thoreauputic> linuxgeek2: hitting the f key gives full screen here
[10:37] <dorto> do i have to manually set all equalizers?
[10:37] <zxsykco> onkarshinda, here is the link http://pastebin.com/431414 thank you for your assistance! ^_^
[10:37] <senectus> gahhhh bloody need to "login"
[10:37] <linuxgeek2> ok
[10:37] <linuxgeek2> I am getting this error when trying to fetch w32codecs
[10:38] <linuxgeek2> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[10:38] <linuxgeek2> ashish@ashish:~$
[10:38] <onkarshinde> dorto: If you have windows and have winamp installed then you can export import equilizer presets
[10:38] <thoreauputic> !tell linuxgeek2 about codecs
[10:38] <dorto> that's how i used to do :(
[10:38] <linuxgeek2> can export import equilizer presets
[10:38] <dorto> every time i have to search for the saved winamp preset on my windows hd
[10:39] <thoreauputic> !tell linuxgeek2 about w32codecs
[10:39] <slew> would i be able to uninstall these nvidia drivers?
[10:39] <zxsykco> onkarshinde, here is the link http://pastebin.com/431414 thank you for your assistance! ^_^
[10:39] <dirkson> This might get me flamed, but.... am I the only person that thinks sudo is more of a security risk that having a root account?
[10:40] <onkarshinde> zxsykco: I don't think this is output of 'lspci' I have same card and never seen anything like this on lspci
[10:40] <thoreauputic> dirkson: *sigh*
[10:40] <zxsykco> That is lspci -v.
[10:40] <crashprone> I don't know which is better, I personally like being able to su rather than sudo, but... ah well.
[10:40] <thoreauputic> dirkson: this debate is *old*
[10:40] <amiad> Anyone here is from Turkey?
[10:40] <dirkson> thoreauputic: *chuckles* Yes, I know : )
[10:40] <onkarshinde> zxsykco: Ok. Then paste output of just 'lspci'
[10:40] <cafuego> dirkson: Yes, you are the only person to think that.
[10:40] <thoreauputic> dirkson: ;P
[10:40] <Cryptid> is it possible to run Visual Basic compilre on Ubuntu? (i dont want to keep switching between OS'es)
[10:41] <zxsykco> It is the same but simpler, one second.
[10:41] <onkarshinde> dirkson: And why do you think so?
[10:41] <fblade> hey guys how can i quickly uprgrade form hoary to breezy what the deb command?
[10:41] <dirkson> thoreauputic: But I am curious to know what arguements there are for sudo.
[10:41] <thoreauputic> dirkson: then read the wiki page
[10:41] <cafuego> Cryptid: Perhaps via crossover office; I doubt wine can handle it (well, maybe the latest wine)
[10:41] <amiad> Anyone here is from Turkey? please PM me
[10:41] <thoreauputic> !rootsudo
[10:41] <ubotu> well, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[10:41] <rowanjl> dirkson, you're not
[10:41] <zxsykco> onkarshinde, http://pastebin.com/431415
[10:41] <cafuego> arrgh, which bastard removed my 'laywers' again!!!
[10:41] <thoreauputic> cafuego: me
[10:42] <crashprone> Muffin!
[10:42] <thoreauputic> cafuego: can you spell ?
[10:42] <thoreauputic> ;P
[10:42] <ookami> 123
[10:42] <cafuego> thoreauputic: jk, saw yer changelog entry ;-)
[10:42] <ookami> ah! its working!
[10:42] <thoreauputic> cafuego: ah OK :D
[10:42] <ni1s> dirkson: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53575 and http://www.tuxmagazine.com/node/1000148 and www.justfuckinggoogleit.com
[10:42] <selinium> Stormx2, Are you about?
[10:43] <omnid> argle my Radeon still isn't identified
[10:43] <zxsykco> So my machine is f*ckued up then? Why the hell else would lspci give me funny numbers?
[10:43] <omnid> I installed the drivers and it didn't do much
[10:43] <dirkson> Okarshinde: Well, mostly because I'm concerned that people that get into my user account can then sudo anything they like. I can protect my root account from external access a little better than I want my personal account protected. Plus, I can SERIOUSLY mess myself up with sudo. (I killed my install within ten minutes of the end of the installation process)
[10:43] <fblade> how can i upgrade to breezy guys?
[10:43] <onkarshinde> zxsykco: This is ridiculously different than what I see. What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[10:43] <windex> I'm a linux newbie and I'm having trouble figuring out how to run terminal as root in Ubuntu.  Can anyone help me out?
[10:43] <ni1s> zxsykco: It's not fcuk up, its running linux
[10:43] <zxsykco> 5.10 breezy badger.
[10:43] <gnuyen> anyone know if there are working hardware accelerated openal drivers for linux on creative sblives on amd64?
[10:43] <thoreauputic> !tell windex about root
[10:44] <cafuego> windex: run a terminal, type 'sudo -s'
[10:44] <thoreauputic> windex: use sudo and your user password
[10:44] <omnid> ookami: isuto? what
[10:44] <windex> thank you so much
[10:44] <thoreauputic> windex:  sudo -i to get a root shell
[10:44] <windex> i'll try it out
[10:44] <rowanjl> onkarshinde, should Grub now work? Or was that a fatal error?
[10:44] <slew> so i cant uninstall the nvidia drivers?
[10:45] <thoreauputic> windex: normally you just do  " sudo <command>"
[10:45] <windex> there we go.  thanks, i feel stupid, but thats okay
[10:45] <zxsykco> So I should stop trusting the people who've introduced me to linux and linux for that matter and go back to windows development?
[10:45] <zxsykco> Why else would this occur?
[10:45] <aftertaf> no never !
[10:45] <cafuego> zxsykco: Why would you do that?
[10:46] <thoreauputic> zxsykco: erm - what are you talking about?
[10:46] <zxsykco> Cus I'm tired of feeling fucked around and this lspci craqp as well as every other hurdle is a damn pain in the ass.
[10:46] <khermans> everytime i run aptitude now, I get this message even though packages are being installed just fine --> "shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory
[10:46] <khermans> "
[10:46] <cafuego> zxsykco: What is unclear about 'lspci'?
[10:46] <zxsykco> Check the pastebin http://pastebin.com/431415
[10:47] <khermans> zxsykco, linux rules dude -- windows suck -- you have it backwards
[10:47] <cafuego> khermans: The directory you're running it from has been deleted. type 'cd'
[10:47] <welp> what filesystem does ubuntu use by default for thr root partition?
[10:47] <zxsykco> I like windows very much.
[10:47] <snadge> i dont even have windows installed, thats how much it sux
[10:47] <thoreauputic> welp: the default is ext3 IIRC
[10:47] <zxsykco> I can always make anything work with it.
[10:47] <onkarshinde> dirkson: I would say otherwise. Using root account is live risk. I mean I am online in root, my system gets hacked and everything is open to external source. In sudo case attacker will at least need access to shell to do any 'sudo destroy'
[10:47] <zxsykco> I have both graphics cards working fine with windows.
[10:47] <cafuego> zxsykco: So what - if anything - is wrong with that lspci?
[10:47] <thoreauputic> zxsykco: whatever floats your boat...
[10:47] <amiad> NO one here is from turkey?
[10:48] <khermans> zxsykco, how about massively renaming 300 files at once?
[10:48] <zxsykco> Whatever.
[10:48] <dirkson> Zxskco: Take it from someone who's had his fair share of lspci troubles: Linux is HARD to get set up properly. Windows is easy. But Linux pays off far better in the end with stability, flexibility, and power. Once you get used to it, you'll never want to go back.
[10:48] <zxsykco> If someone could enlighten me that would be great.
[10:48] <ookami> omnid, meant to be "test.. 1.2.3. "
[10:48] <zxsykco> I have been using linux for a few years now and have been overly pissed off most of the time with it.
[10:48] <cafuego> zxsykco: HELLO?
[10:49] <cafuego> zxsykco: So what - if anything - is wrong with that lspci output?
[10:49] <Corin> hey
[10:49] <khermans> zxsykco, you should be mad at the hardware companies for not supporting Linux drivers as well as they do Windows
[10:49] <Corin> is anyone here good with squid?
[10:49] <slew> zxsykco sure you could run windows, but then youd have to continue to worry about viruses, malware, spyware, etc.. AND have to pay for every app you use.
[10:49] <omnid> ookami: yeah but it doesn't really type how it does in the windows IME
[10:49] <dirkson> zxsykco: .... Can I have your job? Please?
[10:49] <onkarshinde> cafuego: Can you help him identify his bus id from that output
[10:49] <amiad> NO one here is from turkey?
[10:49] <Juhaz> don't use it if you don't like it, nobody's forcing you. and enlighten you about what?
[10:49] <snadge> i beg to differ.. i set up windows 98 se on an old cyrix 686 233, and the graphics driver bluescreened on startup.. i had to download a patch that was hidden on the manufacturers website, that loads in autoexec.bat to fix the problem!
[10:49] <cafuego> onkarshinde: He doesn't need a bus ID.
[10:49] <khermans> slew, nexactly
[10:49] <omnid> ookami: Which is what is kind of disappointing
[10:49] <zxsykco> slew, I do not have to worry about any worms or viruses, etc.
[10:49] <ookami> omnid, what do you mean?
[10:49] <Warter> no you should be pissed at the fact that the question becomes not what hardware it is but what os is it? rofl
[10:50] <zxsykco> My windows is squeaky clean and will stay that way.
[10:50] <onkarshinde> Hey guys lets not discuss pros and cons of linux. Just help zxsykco with his problem
[10:50] <ni1s> I agree
[10:50] <khermans> zxsykco, hehe thats what you think
[10:50] <cafuego> onkarshinde: (unless ATI have yet again fscked up their driver)
[10:50] <khermans> zxsykco, i can remote your box with 0-day right now
[10:50] <zxsykco> Yeah, well prove me wrong.
[10:50] <Juhaz> hard to do when he's not interested in getting help but whining
[10:50] <omnid> ookami: Let's say I type "ko" instead I get  which definitly is not "ko"
[10:50] <dirkson> onkarshinde: Yes, this is true. But when I'm online as root, I can feel free to take quite a few more precautions than I would be comfortable with as an everyday user.
[10:50] <zxsykco> I'm tired of hearing this anti windows crap.
[10:50] <cafuego> zxsykco: Normally you just leave the bus id blank and X is fine.
[10:50] <khermans> zxsykco, why would i wate it on you?
[10:51] <zxsykco> Windows works fine if you set it up properly and know what you are doing.
[10:51] <khermans> save my 0-days for banks...
[10:51] <khermans> lol
[10:51] <onkarshinde> cafuego: I am using same card. But I have never seen lspci output that way. The bus ids look very different
[10:51] <thoreauputic> zxsykco: the whole thing is off-topic really
[10:51] <khermans> zxsykco, how can you know what you are doing if you dont have the source code?
[10:51] <cafuego> And can you please stop trolling?
[10:51] <zxsykco> What.
[10:51] <ookami> =ko here... as in kodomo, 
[10:51] <rowanjl> goatse
[10:51] <zxsykco> So I am a troll now.
[10:51] <dirkson> Windows is fine. But it's not as flexible as Linux, doesn't give you as much power over your system as linux, and simply isn't designed to be as stable as linux.
[10:51] <ni1s> zxsykco: What does X say it you just leave those settings blank?
[10:52] <cafuego> zxsykco: Well, you're ignoring the prople who are trying to help and instead say you want windows.
[10:52] <snadge> zxsykco, this is a channel about discussing ubuntu related issues, not whinging about things and discussing windows
[10:52] <onkarshinde> Please guys can't we just help him with his problem?
[10:52] <thoreauputic> zxsykco: please, if you want to continue do so in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:52] <asad2005> I have mouse scrool problem with Brezy, ZAxisMapping is set to 4 5 and have tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and enabled scrool also have set buttons to 5 and 7 to no avail
[10:52] <ookami> omnid, =ko here... as in kodomo,  (do you have it set on katakana by default?
[10:52] <rowanjl> onkarshinde, *cough*
[10:52] <zxsykco> Look, I started with a question and recieved no answers now I am complaining.
[10:52] <omnid> ookami: okay you set it up differently then.. what did you do?
[10:52] <zxsykco> Sue me.
[10:52] <slew> windows is great if you like being stuck with a blue taskbar and a green start button. without installing 3rd party apps youre stuck being a drone like everyone else.
[10:52] <khermans> zxsykco, what is your issue?
[10:52] <cafuego> zxsykco: I asked you twice to just leave it blank and try X.
[10:52] <Juhaz> so ask again, complaining will juts piss everyone off
[10:53] <onkarshinde> asad2005: Is it "4 5" (note the quotes)?
[10:53] <cafuego> zxsykco: So will you do that or tell me outright you won't?
[10:53] <khermans> zxsykco, you having dual-card problems?
[10:53] <ookami> omnid, let me write it up together (gimmi a sec)
[10:53] <thoreauputic> zxsykco: next complaint gets you a gag, sorry
[10:53] <rowanjl> slew, thats hardly true, and hardly the point
[10:53] <Corin> anyone here good with squid?
[10:53] <ni1s> zxsykco: Lets start over shall we, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and blank the field you dont know
[10:53] <asad2005> onkarshinde, yes with quotes of course
[10:53] <cafuego> Corin: my salt&pepper squid rocks
[10:53] <zxsykco> I simply need to know how to convert the 0000:02:0a.0 into the bus ID that I need to pass to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.
[10:54] <onkarshinde> asad2005: That should work. Can you paste your xorg.conf in pastebin?
[10:54] <cafuego> zxsykco: Can you try X without giving it a busid?
[10:54] <thoreauputic> zxsykco: normally leaving the bus ID blank is fine
[10:54] <Corin> cafuego, what?
[10:54] <Corin> im talking about squid, the proxy...
[10:54] <cafuego> zxsykco: If you have already tried that to bo avail, telling us would be sueful.
[10:54] <khermans> zxsykco, yes  leave it blank
[10:54] <khermans> zxsykco, otherwise, cant you place it in hex
[10:54] <crashprone> Augh, I have wood glue in my nose!
[10:55] <omnid> ookami: okay :3
[10:55] <rowanjl> crashprone, wood glue eh?
[10:55] <dirkson> *laughs at crashprone*
[10:55] <khermans> any girls here?
[10:55] <Corin> can anyone help me configure squid?
[10:55] <thoreauputic> zxsykco: by and large, accepting defaults works well - only change stuff you need to
[10:55] <zxsykco> Well, why can't I convert 0000:02:0a.o into a loaction and can someone explain to me why those numbers are so difficult to work with?
[10:55] <crashprone> I have these random urges to announce pointless things.
[10:55] <Seveas> khermans, crashprone , please stay on topic
[10:55] <Seveas> this is a support channel
[10:55] <zxsykco> The defualt doesn't work./
[10:55] <cafuego> zxsykco: Ok, I give up.
[10:55] <cafuego> zxsykco: Ok, so leaving it blank didn't work?
[10:55] <dirkson> Anyway all, thanks for all the help. Hopefully I'll be on the other end of this chat someday ;) See ya'!
[10:55] <omnid> khermans: IM A GIRL IM TURNED ON BY LINUX TALK OH IM SO WET
[10:56] <khermans> zxsykco, the first 0000 are irrelevant
[10:56] <dirkson> Can we gag him before I go?
[10:56] <zxsykco> And the rest?
[10:56] <cafuego> zxsykco: Ok, so leaving it blank didn't work?
[10:56] <rowanjl> nice omnid
[10:56] <cafuego> zxsykco: yes or No.
[10:56] <dirkson> Ahhh, thank you Seveas ;) Night!
[10:57] <zxsykco> I was not told anywhere to leave it blank it said to use lspci and convert the values to decimal so I can pass something like 0:0:0
[10:57] <cafuego> ARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[10:57] <onkarshinde> Seveas: May I ask one question about eclipse if you have used it with breezy?
[10:57] <polpak> zxsykco, You were told to leave it blank by 10 different people
[10:57] <zxsykco> Yes.
[10:57] <zxsykco> And.
[10:57] <thoreauputic> zxsykco: do you actually read what you've been told repeatedly ?
[10:57] <snadge> zxsykco, and windows sucks :p
[10:58] <zxsykco> People have told me many things that were unsafe or wrong.
[10:58] <khermans> zxsykco, pass it "0:2:a"
[10:58] <cafuego> zxsykco: If you don't WANT help, don't ASK for it.
[10:58] <rowanjl> snadge, windows sucks, linux sucks...
[10:58] <thoreauputic> zxsykco: if you don't trust us, go somewhere else
[10:58] <zxsykco> It's not about "trust".
[10:58] <polpak> zxsykco, If you are unwilling to try people's suggestions why ask for them?
[10:58] <ompaul> zxsykco, read a faq
[10:58] <thoreauputic> zxsykco: and take your attitude with you please
[10:58] <ompaul> ahh now I got it
[10:58] <zxsykco> I've read plenty.
[10:58] <rowanjl> FFS people
[10:58] <ompaul> zxsykco, is a troll
[10:58] <asad2005> onkarshinde, http://pastebin.com/431428
[10:59] <khermans> zxsykco, did you just try "0:2:a" ???
[10:59] <ookami> omnid,  in a terminal type: "uim-pref-gtk", this will load up a panel...
[10:59] <ookami> omnid,  sorry its taking me long.. im trying to find where i changed that.
[10:59] <polpak> khermans, No, he won't try anything anyone suggests, he'd rather just complain
[10:59] <zxsykco> Look polpak I am talkin g back to poeple like you.
[10:59] <khermans> polpak, oh well
[11:00] <polpak> zxsykco, did you try leaving it blank yet?
[11:00] <zxsykco> I have tried other peoples suggestions and that has led me to the lspci prob.
[11:00] <onkarshinde> asad2005: I don't see any problem. Have you restarted X?
[11:00] <Seveas> onkarshinde, my IDE is vim, I never used eclipse
[11:00] <onkarshinde> asad2005: after changing conf?
[11:00] <khermans> zxsykco, you have three options --> blank, "0:2:a", or "0:16:10"
[11:00] <onkarshinde> Seveas: Ok
[11:00] <zxsykco> I am quite sure that 0:2:a is correct and that could've been passed to me in the first place.
[11:00] <ni1s> zxsykco: Have you tried 'PCI:2:10:0'?
[11:00] <asad2005> onkarshinde, yes logged off then on
[11:01] <dirkson> zxsykco: If you do not believe that a person's suggestion is a good one, explain your reasons why and discuss it with them. Blank refusal does not work well with volunteer help, usually. Imagine if you were in a soup kitchen, and you continually shoved the cream of barley back at the volunteer trying to feed you. Eventually, she's not going to give you cream of barley anymore, or any other type of soup.
[11:01] <zxsykco> i am still here to make a clear point that you are out of bounds.
[11:01] <dirkson> Although, I must admit, cream of barley kinda sounds gross.
[11:01] <rowanjl> ok people, I think we need to ask zxsykco what his current problem is and start over.
[11:01] <thoreauputic> zxsykco: *sigh* please stop it or you'll be stopped
[11:01] <holycow> guys, a bit of a non sequiter for you guys ... i've watched a bunch of peple in here try to run amd64 version of ubuntu and then for some reason decide to switch back to 32 bit anyway
[11:01] <onkarshinde> asad2005: looging off doesn't restart X/ Either kill it using Ctrl+Alt+Backspace or just reboot
[11:01] <rowanjl> zxsykco, describe your problem.
[11:01] <zxsykco> Stop what?
[11:02] <polpak> rowanjl, He's trying to install nvidia drivers
[11:02] <dirkson> Holycow, I'm on amd64 right now. Go ahead : )
[11:02] <davro> zxsykco, umm Knoppix User, do you need help.
[11:02] <holycow> anyone here actually run into that situation them selves?
[11:02] <ompaul> zxsykco, do you consider your actions as wasting other peoples time
[11:02] <ni1s> I thought it was ATI drivers
[11:02] <rowanjl> polpak, thats not his problem
[11:02] <Seveas> zxsykco, I think thoreauputic means: stop being annoying
[11:02] <Seveas> and I couldn;t agree more
[11:02] <morphix> hmm.
[11:02] <zxsykco> I am in knoppix because I didn't feel like toggling vid cards jsut to use xchat for help.
[11:02] <polpak> rowanjl, his problem is he's fsked up his xorg.conf and cannot get it working
[11:02] <holycow> dirkson, how do you find it?  i'm asking because i don't think i have a choice any more, you cant really buy 32 bit cpus these days, all the amd stuff is going 64 bit even on the cheapest cpus
[11:02] <thoreauputic> zxsykco: complaining and refusing to be helped because of some silly idea that you can't trust us: you are responsible for your system
[11:02] <morphix> how can i make my network card/device have a static assigned ip? i cant remember what .conf to edit.
[11:03] <zxsykco> that is nonsense.
[11:03] <asad2005> onkarshinde, Is there a command to restart X with out having to restart
[11:03] <rowanjl> polpak, getting warmer, but that still won't help
[11:03] <rowanjl> *sigh*
[11:03] <onkarshinde> asad2005: I said Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[11:03] <thoreauputic> enough already
[11:03] <polpak> rowanjl, we told him to dpkg reconfig it
[11:03] <dirkson> holycow: I can see the temptation- linux32 programs run without complaint on the 32 platform. You CAN run a 32 bit os on a 64 bit chip, no problem. If you're running a 64bit os, though, you'll notice some slight (5-10%, maybe) increases in performance.
[11:03] <glick> do you think we will ever go 128 bit cpus?
[11:03] <rowanjl> so perhaps now someone can help me?
[11:03] <polpak> rowanjl, which he was, but stopped when he was asked where his video card was
[11:03] <ni1s> zxsykco: So the problem is that you need your BusID for your graphics card, right?
[11:03] <khermans> glick, hehe we cant even get our 64-bit code working ... lol
[11:04] <asad2005> onkarshinde, But that will also kill and restart or I am missunderstanding it
[11:04] <xota> somebody know how i can renove my gpg key signature?
[11:04] <khermans> zxsykco, listen to nils
[11:04] <dirkson> holycow: So basically, if you do buy a 64 bit chip, you could still run linux32 on it peachykeen. But if you absolutely have to have the full power of the chip, you'll have to suffer a few growing pains with the 64 bit OS.
[11:04] <onkarshinde> asad2005: You have to restart X anyway. Do it your prefered way
[11:05] <glick> dirkson, why is that they have 64 bit kernels
[11:05] <dirkson> holycow: For me, the growing pains are basically no flash. That's it.
[11:05] <polpak> rowanjl, what is your problem?
[11:05] <glick> to hell with flash!
[11:05] <rowanjl> I just installed 5.10, but neither Grub or LILO would install
[11:05] <holycow> dirkson, aha!
[11:06] <holycow> okay i see
[11:06] <holycow> lol
[11:06] <holycow> man you know ...
[11:06] <davro> 64 bit has no flash that almost sounds like an incentive.
[11:06] <khermans> glick, and acrobat, and much more
[11:06] <holycow> that just goes to show where open source excels
[11:06] <rowanjl> so now I can't boot my system (using Live CD for now)
[11:06] <holycow> right there, no goddamn 64 bit flash plug
[11:06] <glick> khermans, so get a dual core
[11:06] <ni1s> zxsykco: lspci tells me my Nvidia card is at 0000:03:00.0 and xorg.conf has BusID to 3:0:0, so 0:2:a sound like a good idea for you to try out
[11:06] <onkarshinde> rowanjl: Did you tru grub-install as I told you?
[11:06] <khermans> glick, and your java runtime will probably crash all the time  too
[11:06] <glick> dual core 64 and 32 bit
[11:07] <holycow> even though its an open standard, a company like macro simply wont spend a dime to really do it right and on time
[11:07] <rowanjl> onkarshinde, yeah, and I got that error...
[11:07] <Seveas> ni1s, lspci reports in hex
[11:07] <rowanjl> "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[11:07] <rowanjl> "
[11:07] <onkarshinde> rowanjl: Did you try with /dev/hdb?
[11:07] <dirkson> glick: What exactly do you mean, glick?
[11:07] <rowanjl> "sudo grub-install /dev/hdb
[11:07] <rowanjl> "
[11:07] <rowanjl> onkarshinde, yep, thats what gave me the error
[11:07] <xota> oook, i do it, gpg --edit-key [key]  and then expire
[11:07] <glick> dirkson, well AMDs have dual 64bit and 32bit cores
[11:07] <glick> 32 bit code runs on the 32 bit core
[11:07] <glick> and 64 bit code runs on the 64 bit core
[11:07] <polpak> rowanjl, what was the error?
[11:08] <morphix> how can i make my network card/device have a static assigned ip? i cant remember what .conf to edit.
[11:08] <rowanjl> "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."
[11:08] <onkarshinde> rowanjl: Can you paste output of 'sudo fdisk -l ' in pastebin?
[11:08] <khermans> glick, i think it is all the same "core"
[11:08] <viviersf> ni1s, just comment out the busid in xorg.conf its causing problems , it doesnt matter, only when you have more than one of the same card on your system
[11:08] <glick> khermans, nah
[11:08] <onkarshinde> morphix: are you on some kine of network?
[11:08] <ookami> Anyone know what this is about:  Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[11:08] <dirkson> glick: Khermans is right. The 'dual core' cpus are something different- They all share the same bit-age.
[11:08] <ni1s> zxsykco: what viviersf just said
[11:08] <glick> hey has anyone worked on transmetta chips?
[11:08] <morphix> home network.
[11:08] <khermans> morphix, /etc/network/interfaces
[11:09] <thoreauputic> !tell zxsykco about !tell %2 about conduct
[11:09] <rowanjl> onkarshinde, polpak: http://pastebin.com/431434
[11:09] <glick> dirkson, the os will direct certain code to the different cores
[11:09] <gnuyen> I have a pentium d
[11:09] <onkarshinde> morphix: There must be something in menu System->Administration
[11:09] <glick> for a certain program the kernel will put the cpu in 64 bit mode
[11:09] <dirkson> Glick: The amd64 chip currently works by being natively 64 bit, but emulating 32 bit commands. This is why there is a slight performance hit with 32 bit apps and oses
[11:09] <thoreauputic> bah zxsykco please read the code of conduct and adjust your attitude
[11:09] <glick> and it will run on the 64 bit cores
[11:09] <gnuyen> that's a dual core em64
[11:09] <thoreauputic> !coc
[11:09] <ubotu> well, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[11:09] <morphix> onkarshinde, i'm not in gui.
[11:10] <glick> anyone have any experience on transmetta's CPUs?
[11:10] <khermans> morphix, i already told you where it is
[11:10] <onkarshinde> morphix: sorry. I don't know conf file.
[11:10] <glick> they seem to be fast and use rediculsly low power
[11:10] <morphix> khermans, how do i edit the <ip> <netmask> <gateway> ? just in that layout where 'dhcp' is?
[11:10] <gnuyen> the packages in ubuntu 64 tend to be a bit behind
[11:10] <gnuyen> like mythtv is broken
[11:10] <morphix> i cant remember :/
[11:10] <BockBilbo> any of yo guys have experience a bad performance of the flash plugin for mozilla related to fonts?
[11:10] <dirkson> What IS mythTV, anyway? Everyone seems to be making a fuss over it
[11:11] <glick> dam no one
[11:11] <BockBilbo> dirkson, its a program that emulates a set-top-box tv for linux
[11:11] <Madpilot> BockBilbo: install the ms core fonts for flash...
[11:11] <ni1s> I have bad experience with flash plugin in every relation you can imagine
[11:11] <BockBilbo> Madpilot, i know i have them
[11:11] <glick> c'mon the chip maker linus worked for?
[11:11] <BockBilbo> but i cant still see some sites
[11:11] <dirkson> BockBilbo: During the install of the flash plugin, it says it needs two particular font packages or it won't work quite right. Have ya' made sure you have those?
[11:11] <onkarshinde> rowanjl: And what happened when you tried /dev/hda?
[11:11] <rowanjl> onkarshinde, the system boots from /dev/hdb
[11:12] <BockBilbo> see cant see this page for example: coldplay.com/site.php
[11:12] <ni1s> BockBilbo: dirkson is talking about gsfonts and gsfonts-x11
[11:12] <BockBilbo> i just see the green background
[11:12] <BockBilbo> nils, i have them
[11:12] <dirkson> nils: Thank you nils! : )
[11:12] <khermans> morphix, http://pastebin.com/431436
[11:13] <morphix> ok thanks.
[11:13] <onkarshinde> rowanjl: Doesn't matter. That is what menu.lst file will specify. If you have set your hda as first boot drive in BIOS then you will need to install grub on hda.
[11:13] <dirkson> Ok, seriously, I NEED to GO now :D Bye all! : )
[11:13] <BockBilbo> ts wierd,, ihave all packages available related to fonts :S
[11:13] <asad2005> I have restarted X mouse scrool still not working
[11:13] <daniele> dears, I am in locale but i wanna run only an application (e.g. Inkscape) in english. How may I do?
[11:13] <rowanjl> onkarshinde, but hdb is set in the BIOS not hda
[11:13] <natalie> heya guys!!!
[11:13] <natalie> can anyone help me configure my wireless network card?
[11:13] <zxsykco> Try not using name calling and aggression and condescending tones..
[11:14] <khermans> natalie, hahah yes
[11:14] <zxsykco> Leters.
[11:14] <BockBilbo> i also have the msttcorefonts
[11:14] <onkarshinde> rowanjl: Ok. Did you changes boot order of hard drives after installing linux?
[11:14] <ni1s> BockBilbo: whats the flash url?
[11:14] <asad2005> onkarshinde, I have restarted X mouse scroll still not working
[11:14] <rowanjl> onkarshinde, nope, been this way since 4.04
[11:14] <BockBilbo> ni1s, for what?
[11:14] <rowanjl> er 4.10 :)
[11:14] <khermans> natalie, what kind of wifi card do you have?
[11:14] <BockBilbo> you mean the url to one site that doesnt work?
[11:15] <ni1s> BockBilbo: yew
[11:15] <ni1s> BockBilbo: yes
[11:15] <BockBilbo> http://www.coldplay.com/site.php
[11:15] <BockBilbo> for example
[11:15] <ParTas> wher i can find how to instal nvidia?
[11:15] <natalie> khermans lol the one that came installed with my laptop... one sec and I'll pull up the specs
[11:15] <morphix> ParTas: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[11:16] <ParTas> thx
[11:16] <BockBilbo> nillas, i cant also see the fonts of the graphs from google analytics
[11:16] <daniele> is there a tip to run an app with a different locale/language in gnome?
[11:16] <ni1s> Oh My! Half the site is coverd with a grey box!
[11:16] <BockBilbo> ni1s, ... yes.. appart from that
[11:16] <onkarshinde> rowanjl: One last try. Can you tell me what is output if 'file -i /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot'
[11:16] <natalie> khermans: "Broadcom Corporation, DEVICE: BCM4306 802.11b/g wireless lan"
[11:16] <ni1s> BockBilbo: but i do see the text
[11:16] <BockBilbo> i dont
[11:16] <Seveas> !tell morphix about ubuntuguide
[11:16] <Seveas> Do NOT recommende ubuntuguide - it's crap
[11:16] <BockBilbo> i just see the grene background of what i guess it is a menu
[11:17] <onkarshinde> morphix: Please don't recommend ubuntuguide
[11:17] <rowanjl> onkarshinde, /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot: application/x-not-regular-file
[11:17] <morphix> .
[11:17] <onkarshinde> !tell ParTas about nvidia
[11:17] <morphix> well. ubuntuguide worked for my pc with nvidia.
[11:17] <morphix> so heh
[11:17] <ni1s> BockBilbo: If you right click on a flash and choose settings, is there text missing?
[11:17] <Seveas> morphix, good luck on upgrades.
[11:17] <morphix> i am just helping withj what worked on mine.
[11:17] <Seveas> don't.
[11:18] <Seveas> help with what is guaranteed to work
[11:18] <BockBilbo> ni1s, well.. nothing appears
[11:18] <morphix> heh.
[11:18] <Seveas> not with crap like ubuntuguide - that is not help
[11:18] <onkarshinde> rowanjl: One last thing you can try is booting in rescue mode from the same CD (get a shell) from which you installed Ubuntu. And then try grub-install.
[11:19] <ni1s> BockBilbo: goto www.kontraband,com -> Animations and pick something there and see if it works, try the Settings again there too
[11:19] <khermans> natalie, you need to use the ndiswrapper utility
[11:19] <rowanjl> onkarshinde, how would I do that? :P
[11:19] <Linoob> hello?
[11:19] <thoreauputic> morphix: it isn't that you weren't trying - but ubuntuguide is out of date and causes a lot of trouble
[11:19] <ni1s> Linoob: hello?
[11:19] <rowanjl> what commands from the boot prompts
[11:19] <ParTas> Hoooooo play lineage2 can tell me how to start it on ubuntu?
[11:19] <khermans> natalie, search wiki.ubuntu.com for ndiswrapper
[11:19] <thoreauputic> morphix: please don't take it personally :)
[11:19] <aris[glande] > hmm I wonder why "games" menu don't have 2 levels of deference
[11:19] <onkarshinde> rowanjl: Boot from installation CD (if you have it). Then there is a step to get a shell. Then same command as I told you.
[11:19] <MasterPUA> THIS IS THE INTERNET.
[11:20] <CaBlGuY> !tell ParTas about wine
[11:20] <MasterPUA> WELCOME TO THE NET, USER.
[11:20] <aris[glande] > because gnome + kde on my box makes the menu really huge
[11:20] <MasterPUA> HOW CAN I HELP YOU?
[11:20] <rowanjl> onkarshinde, ok, thanks for the help!
[11:20] <thoreauputic> MasterPUA: lose the caps please
[11:20] <BockBilbo> ni1s, i see no text in the configuration window
[11:20] <Tonik> Hi.  Can someone explain to me what "set -e" means?
[11:20] <Seveas> thoreauputic, he lost his voice already :)
[11:21] <thoreauputic> Seveas: so I saw, belatedly ;)
[11:21] <ni1s> BockBilbo: remove the plugin and install the gsfonts & gsfonts-x11 and then install flash again, that should fix it
[11:21] <aftertaf> bye!!
[11:21] <aftertaf> :)
[11:21] <CaBlGuY> ParTas, hope that helps..
[11:21] <ni1s> BockBilbo: and if you got the fonts just remove and install flash again
[11:21] <zxsykco> Ok.
[11:21] <BockBilbo> ok
[11:21] <zxsykco> Thanks everybody.
[11:21] <BockBilbo> cause i do have the fonts already
[11:22] <zxsykco> The bus ID commented out works.
[11:22] <thoreauputic> zxsykco: cool :)
[11:22] <ni1s> zxsykco: nice!
[11:22] <Linoob> so i'm basically trying out linux for the first time here...fresh from windoze
[11:22] <BockBilbo> ni1s, one sec
[11:22] <zxsykco> So when my graphics card explodes into tiny pieces I'm coming back here to "troll"!
[11:22] <zxsykco> ^_^
[11:22] <Linoob> can anyone help me with a few basic questions?
[11:22] <ni1s> Linoob: sure
[11:22] <glick> im thinkin of going with a transmeta CPU for one of my hardware design projects
[11:22] <CaBlGuY> CVongrats Linoob  and go ahead, someone will answer
[11:23] <thoreauputic> zxsykco: I think you'll  be safe ;P
[11:23] <zxsykco> ^_^
[11:23] <glick> but no one seems to have used them
[11:23] <linuxgeek2> !ubotu
[11:23] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[11:23] <onkarshinde> zxsykco: It won't and if it does you will be too busy buying new PC to come here.
[11:23] <doodz> ubuntu has nothing installed to be able to compile ?
[11:23] <zxsykco> ^_^
[11:23] <Linoob> thanks CablGuy and nils :)  to start with, I can't seem to set my resolution any higher than 1024/768
[11:23] <glick> the nice thing is they dissipate like 9 watts of power at 1.6 ghz
[11:23] <glick> lol i can blow that heat away
[11:23] <OptiPlex> anyone ever played dopewars?
[11:23] <onkarshinde> doodz: install package build-essential
[11:24] <doodz> thanks
[11:24] <Determinist> good morning
[11:24] <CaBlGuY> Linoob,  whats your video card?  If It's Nvidea, all you need to do is install the drivers.
[11:24] <Seveas> glick, transmeta is dead...
[11:24] <Linoob> i believe i did, following ubuntuguide.org
[11:24] <ni1s> Linoob: your x.org config is restricting your resolution options
[11:24] <Seveas> Linoob, bad idea ubuntuguide is crap
[11:24] <glick> Seveas, their websites doesnt look dead
[11:24] <BockBilbo> ni1s, this still doens work..
[11:24] <aris[glande] > i find it nice ubuntu finaly made the nvidia drivers into the CD
[11:24] <holycow> me too
[11:25] <CaBlGuY> Linoob,  are you familiar with the Synaptic tool?
[11:25] <onkarshinde> Linoob: What is size of monitor?
[11:25] <ni1s> BockBilbo: Well, Then Im sorry to say im all out of ideas, but remember, Google is your friend!
[11:25] <Linoob> nope, complete noob on linux here
[11:25] <Linoob> 1280/1024
[11:25] <natalie> khermans, okies lol open the terminal and type in 'ndiswrapper?'
[11:25] <malv> anyone have an opinion about cedega?
[11:25] <glick> how can you say transmetta is dead when Lenovo uses them in some of its laptop systems?
[11:25] <malv> from an nvidia users perspective
[11:25] <BockBilbo> ni1s, hehe.. yep
[11:25] <BockBilbo> thanks
[11:25] <BockBilbo> :)
[11:25] <natalie> khermans, Thanks :)
[11:25] <CaBlGuY> Linoob,  Sytem, Admin, Synaptic
[11:26] <CaBlGuY> go there and open that
[11:26] <holycow> transmeta from what i've read just sold off its manufacturing
[11:26] <CaBlGuY> you'll need the root pass
[11:26] <holycow> it didn't get rid of its product lines
[11:26] <onkarshinde> Linoob: I mean in inches.
[11:26] <holycow> they are going to pull an nvidia i think
[11:26] <malv> holycow: tell me more =)
[11:26] <malv> heh
[11:26] <Linoob> oh 17" lcd
[11:26] <thoreauputic> CaBlGuY: no he needs his user pass
[11:26] <holycow> thats all i have :)
[11:26] <holycow> lol sorry
[11:26] <Linoob> cablguy: done
[11:26] <malv> holycow: i am more curious about how it plays with most games
[11:26] <aftertaf> optiyeah on my palm :)
[11:27] <CaBlGuY> Linoob,  ok, now do  a search for NV and see whats installed
[11:27] <holycow> malv, oh cedega
[11:27] <holycow> i've used it, it's okay
[11:27] <holycow> works for some games, not others
[11:27] <aftertaf> hi Kamping_Kaiser
[11:27] <bla|patrick> hi
[11:27] <rj__> since there is no /etc/modules.conf in ubuntu breezy -- what should i use to place my alsa module configs?
[11:27] <Linoob> cablguy: looks like no packages installed
[11:27] <holycow> windows binary compatability is like being compatible with quicksand
[11:27] <bla|patrick> need help with sound in ET, configuring KDE and open ports for bittorrent
[11:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi aftertaf :)
[11:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi holycow
[11:28] <CaBlGuY> Linoob,  ok, install th Nvdiva drivers..  if that's your card.  is it?
[11:28] <Linoob> yep 6600GT
[11:28] <holycow> hey Kamping_Kaiser
[11:28] <holycow> how are ya?
[11:28] <malv> holycow: how is the performance for games that work?
[11:28] <thoreauputic> ni1s: boo !
[11:28] <ni1s> Linoob: install the nvidia-glx
[11:28] <CaBlGuY> Lnoob, ok, right click on it and select install
[11:28] <holycow> malv, i'm not much of a gamer, i didn't notice any actually
[11:28] <bla|patrick> how can i open ports?
[11:28] <CaBlGuY> yeah what nils said
[11:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> holycow: not bad, but busy ;) just gota  new modem, so I'm happy again
[11:28] <holycow> heh :)
[11:28] <Linoob> oh one sec
[11:29] <ni1s> thoreauputic: only kidding :)
[11:29] <Linoob> i've got nvidia-glx, nvidia-kernel-common and nvidia-settings installed
[11:29] <thoreauputic> ni1s: yeah I know :)
[11:29] <CaBlGuY> ok, I gotta go..  need to leave for work..  you got it form here nils??
[11:29] <ni1s> CaBlGuY: sure
[11:29] <Linoob> thanks for the help cablguy!
[11:29] <CaBlGuY> Linoob,  NP bud..
[11:29] <CaBlGuY> o/
[11:29] <ni1s> Linoob: open a terminal
[11:29] <Linoob> k
[11:30] <rj__> since there is no /etc/modules.conf in ubuntu breezy -- what should i use to place my alsa module configs?
[11:30] <ni1s> run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[11:30] <lastnode> rj__, create one
[11:30] <thoreauputic> rj__: might be better to say what you are trying to achieve
[11:31] <Linoob> nils: should i select nv or nvidia for xServer driver?
[11:31] <ni1s> select 'nvidia'
[11:31] <bla|patrick> need help with sound in ET, configuring KDE and open ports for bittorrent
[11:31] <rj__> thoreauputic: i have specfic alsa module configs for my soundcard on my laptop -- this site says to use /etc/modules.conf -- but with ubuntu there is no such thing
[11:31] <linuxgeek2> ;l
[11:31] <linuxgeek2> kl;'kk;klkklklkl';k'
[11:31] <revolution> selam
[11:31] <revolution> :)
[11:31] <linuxgeek2> kurkur
[11:32] <Mardle> Is there a way to have multiple sound instances? Cus now when im using XMM and wc3 troght cedega the sound in wc3 aint working :/
[11:32] <linuxgeek2> :(
[11:32] <ni1s> Linoob: when you get to the point where you choose what modules to load, deselect GLcore and dri
[11:32] <linuxgeek2> hi
[11:32] <ni1s> linuxgeek2: ehh...hello?
[11:32] <linuxgeek2> ello nillas
[11:33] <rj__> Do i create a /etc/modprobe.d/sound file and put my alsa config entries there?
[11:33] <linuxgeek2> elli nils
[11:33] <revolution> hay
[11:33] <OptiPlex> anyone ever play freecraft online?
[11:33] <OptiPlex> ..guess not lol
[11:33] <linuxgeek2> hay.
[11:33] <lastnode> OptiPlex, whats freecraft?
[11:33] <lastnode> oh the free warcraft clone
[11:33] <OptiPlex> yeah heh
[11:33] <ni1s> oh that old thing
[11:33] <linuxgeek2> 
[11:33] <OptiPlex> wondering if anyone played it online
[11:33] <linuxgeek2> 
[11:34] <linuxgeek2> 
[11:34] <Mardle> is it good?
[11:34] <Linoob> nils?
[11:34] <ni1s> Linoob: yes
[11:34] <ni1s> Linoob: when you get to the point where you choose what modules to load, deselect GLcore and dri
[11:35] <Linoob> shoudl i choose nv or nvidia for server driver?
[11:35] <revolution> +
[11:35] <ni1s> choose nvidia
[11:35] <thoreauputic> linuxgeek2: you are on thin ice - please stop it
[11:35] <bla|patrick> re
[11:35] <bla|patrick> need help
[11:35] <ni1s> linuxgeek2: yeah so do we
[11:36] <linuxgeek2> thoreauputic, thin ice
[11:36] <Linoob> k going through it atm
[11:36] <rowanjl> Ok, thats not good
[11:36] <bla|patrick> why does enemyterritory complain that dsp is busy
[11:36] <bla|patrick> ---> ergo no sound ingame
[11:36] <bla|patrick> how can i open ports
[11:36] <bla|patrick> so that i can play online and use filesharing
[11:37] <ni1s> bla|patrick: I way of here, but I think you need the alsa-oss wrappers
[11:37] <thoreauputic> bla|patrick: try killall esd   before playing your game (for sound )
[11:37] <bla|patrick> and why doesnt konqueror list my harddrives - at least the mounted partitions?
[11:37] <bla|patrick> nils, tell me more about that :)
[11:37] <thoreauputic> bla|patrick: are your drives listed in /etc/fstab ?
[11:37] <bla|patrick> yep
[11:38] <bla|patrick> and i can access them from gnome
[11:38] <bla|patrick> everything is mounted
[11:38] <bla|patrick> and accessable there
[11:38] <thoreauputic> bla|patrick: maybe ask in #kubuntu
[11:38] <ni1s> bla|patrick: try installing alsa-oss
[11:38] <bla|patrick> i did
[11:38] <bla|patrick> nobody had a clue
[11:38] <lastnode> OptiPlex, im just apt-getting it
[11:38] <Linoob> nils: finished going through reconfiguring, deselected glcore + dri as you said
[11:38] <lastnode> would love to try it online. get in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[11:39] <bla|patrick> and i have a last problem
[11:39] <bla|patrick> dialup password for dsl isnt stored
[11:39] <bla|patrick> i should connect at boottime, but after shutting down the password is lost
[11:39] <ni1s> Linoob: Good! Now you need to restart X or just reboot
[11:39] <Linoob> oh ok
[11:39] <Linoob> brb
[11:40] <linuxgeek2> ^B hi
[11:41] <ni1s> Linoob: Well, dose it work?
[11:41] <Linoob> it does! thank you very much
[11:42] <ni1s> Linoob: Great! Happy to help!
[11:42] <Linoob> will be exploring this OS leisurely -- thanks again and take care
[11:43] <ni1s> You too
[11:43] <kemik> !apache
[11:43] <ubotu> it has been said that apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[11:45] <pepsi> holy crap.. i never sleep
[11:45] <ni1s> It bothers me that nothing comes close to Azureus of all the clients mentioned...
[11:46] <glick> the cruesoe looks like hot shit for embedded systems
[11:46] <ni1s> pepsi: stop drinking pepsi
[11:46] <glick> and even non embedded systems
[11:46] <glick> it looks like fantastic technology
[11:46] <glick> transmeta
[11:46] <rowanjl> Ok, why, if there is any reason at all, would both Grub and LILO refuse to install at the end of the installation?
[11:47] <bla|patrick> nils: installed also-oss now
[11:47] <bla|patrick> how do i enable it in et?
[11:48] <ni1s> rowanjl: maybe they cant access the MBR
[11:48] <OptiPlex> peace
[11:48] <ni1s> bla|patrick: try running it like normal, the game that is
[11:48] <rowanjl> ni1s, ok, any way of checking if thats the prob?
[11:48] <bla|patrick> nils: well i have no sound...
[11:49] <bla|patrick> restarted x already
[11:49] <rowanjl> ni1s, oh, I just remembered something!
[11:49] <bla|patrick> what has to be default audioserver
[11:49] <ni1s> alsa
[11:49] <bla|patrick> k
[11:49] <Corin_777> can anyone think of anything interesting to do with a linux box? im just trying to experiment different stuff, ive got lamp server, ftp, proxy working...  anything else? :P
[11:49] <ni1s> Corin_777: a Freenet node!!!
[11:49] <rowanjl> ni1s, forget what I just said, that was for something else :P
[11:50] <Corin_777> ni1s, did i say its specs? no? you dont want to know
[11:50] <linuxgeek2> !grub
[11:50] <ubotu> rumour has it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:50] <linuxgeek2> ubotu, hi
[11:50] <ubotu> hey, linuxgeek2
[11:50] <bla|patrick> nils: no sound either
[11:50] <bla|patrick> kde said it restarted the sound server
[11:50] <bla|patrick> but there is no sound ingame
[11:50] <bla|patrick> only in the gui
[11:51] <bla|patrick> and killall esd had no effect
[11:51] <bla|patrick> coze there is no process with esd
[11:51] <linuxgeek2> !splash
[11:51] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image
[11:51] <linuxgeek2> !grubsplash
[11:51] <ubotu> linuxgeek2: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:51] <linuxgeek2> !splashscreen
[11:51] <ubotu> well, splashscreen is to change your splashscreen via a GUI, "sudo apt-get install gtweakui", or install "gtweakui" from Synaptic (make sure you have universe !repos enabled)
[11:51] <Corin_777> any other ideas?
[11:52] <bla|patrick> and how do i open ports in linux?
[11:52] <ni1s> bla|patrick: run a 'sudo chmod 666(or 777) on /dev/dsp and /dev/snd*
[11:52] <Q_Continuum> How well does Ubuntu off-the-bat take advantage of SMP?
[11:52] <linuxgeek2> !w32codecs
[11:52] <ubotu> rumour has it, w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil. One possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[11:53] <Corin_777> anyone??
[11:53] <_null> Hi! I have a problem compiling custom software. I'm getting this error: intltoolize: 'po/Makefile.in.in' is out of date: use '--force' to overwrite... Is this a problem with the software or with ubuntu?
[11:53] <mjr> Q_Continuum, hmm, not sure, I think you have to install an smp-capable kernel deb yourself though
[11:53] <Q_Continuum> ok
[11:53] <bla|patrick> !paste
[11:53] <ubotu> methinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[11:53] <mjr> Q_Continuum, actually, yes, I'm sure
[11:53] <Q_Continuum> ok
[11:53] <Q_Continuum> thanks
[11:53] <ni1s> Corin_777: and Ubuntu IRC server
[11:53] <mjr> (at least  on amd64)
[11:54] <bimberi> Q_Continuum: linux-686-smp would be the package
[11:54] <Corin_777> ni1s, it is 500mhz, 256 ram....
[11:55] <linuxgeek2> !grub
[11:55] <ubotu> [grub]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:55] <bla|patrick> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4616
[11:55] <Corin_777> ni1s, how would i set up an irc server?
[11:55] <bla|patrick> nils this is all i get
[11:55] <bla|patrick> sound fails :(
[11:56] <ni1s> Corin_777: Oh! Then install APache2 with all the modules and PHP and Mambo and Gallery2!
[11:56] <ni1s> Corin_777: http://www.pocnet.net/hobby/computer/ircserver-HOWTO.txt
[11:57] <Corin_777> ni1s, ive installed apache2, php4, mysql, phpmyadmin, proftpd, squid......
[11:57] <bla|patrick> nils: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4616
[11:57] <Corin_777> Mambo? Gallery2?
[11:57] <ni1s> Content system and gallery php apps
[11:57] <Corin_777> so thats more like phpfusion/e107?
[11:58] <ni1s> bla|patrick: oh damn, I think its a mmap problem
[11:58] <Warter> would either of you be able to answer a question about using ndiswrapper to install wireless drivers?
[11:58] <ni1s> bla|patrick: Oh goooooood I hate those!!
[11:58] <bla|patrick> whats that?
[11:58] <Corin_777> ni1s, how is mambo set up? is it a set of php scripts to put in /var/www/ or is it linux software which does it automatically? or something else?
[11:59] <rowanjl> Grahh, how can I clean the MBR of /dev/hdb?
[11:59] <rowanjl> or how the f*** can I make ubuntu install correctly :(
[12:00] <linuxgeek2> how do I display a grub splash screen
[12:00] <linuxgeek2> I mean chnage
[12:00] <linuxgeek2> I have tried everything in howtos but nothing seems to work
[12:00] <linuxgeek2> ?
[12:01] <linuxgeek2> yelp ?
[12:01] <Seveas> linuxgeek2, http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/grub.tar.gz
[12:01] <rowanjl> Ok, any suggestions to what I can do then the install fails to use the Grub or LILO packages?
[12:02] <Corin_777> ni1s, ???
[12:03] <linuxgeek2> thanks Seveas
[12:03] <linuxgeek2> Seveas, How to I install them
[12:03] <Seveas> linuxgeek2, that tarball contains 2 images and a menu.lst
[12:03] <Seveas> the images go in /boot/grub
[12:03] <uuuuu5> !repositorys
[12:03] <ubotu> Not a clue, uuuuu5
[12:03] <Seveas> the menu.lst has an example on how to use it
[12:03] <uuuuu5> !repos
[12:04] <ubotu> hmm... repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[12:05] <aris[glande] > hmm i have a strange problem with my laptop. Normally, to activate the internal wifi card, I have to press a button and then a led lights up
[12:05] <aris[glande] > this button worked under gentoo, but here it seems to be stuck on "off"
[12:05] <aris[glande] > (and the wlan doesn't work)
[12:06] <bla|patrick> nils: anyideas?
[12:06] <bla|patrick> could someone tell me how to open ports in linux?
[12:07] <aris[glande] > bla|patrick, open and do what with them ?
[12:07] <Seveas> rowanjl, ....
[12:07] <bla|patrick> aris: bittorrent
[12:07] <bla|patrick> and those ports i need for ET
[12:07] <Seveas> bla|patrick, you open a port by installing a service that listens on it...
[12:07] <rowanjl> Seveas, got nothing else to do :P
[12:07] <Seveas> go read slashdot ....:)
[12:07] <aris[glande] > normally bittorrent takes the ports it needs
[12:08] <Corin_777> does anyone know how i can set a limit to the size of a certain folder?  i.e. a quota.... ?
[12:08] <bla|patrick> aris[glande] , why dont i get any peers?
[12:08] <uuuuu5> hey is that fancey partion manager in gnome exactly the same as parted/
[12:08] <aris[glande] > bla|patrick, are you behind a nat/router ?
[12:08] <bla|patrick> although there are about 12000 connections listet on aminesuki
[12:08] <uuuuu5> hey is that fancey partion manager in gnome exactly the same as parted?
[12:08] <bla|patrick> aris: no
[12:08] <aris[glande] > bla|patrick, or directly connected to the net ?
[12:08] <rowanjl> Seveas, only if they've managed to make the site not make me want to drill out my eyes
[12:08] <bla|patrick> direct
[12:08] <aris[glande] > bla|patrick, did you set a firewall ?
[12:08] <bla|patrick> only linux
[12:09] <bla|patrick> i didnt changed anything
[12:09] <aris[glande] > bla|patrick, you are in ideal mode, you shouldn't have problems
[12:09] <uuuuu5> i mean is gparted simpley a fronted for parted?
[12:09] <bla|patrick> neither can i connect in et to servers and download their maps
[12:10] <bla|patrick> nor get i contact to torrent
[12:10] <aris[glande] > "et" ?
[12:10] <bla|patrick> dont tell me that this is how its supposed to be
[12:10] <bla|patrick> enemy territory
[12:10] <steigweis> after nvidia driver install, do i have to reconfigure xserver-x86free?
[12:10] <bla|patrick> that ogl game
[12:10] <aris[glande] > bla|patrick, start a console and type sudo iptables -L
[12:11] <aris[glande] > then paste the output on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:11] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[12:11] <Aragorn_Guardian> more one month ubuntized...hehehehe
[12:11] <Aragorn_Guardian> ubuntu server is great!!! 8)
[12:11] <bla|patrick> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4617
[12:11] <aris[glande] > bla|patrick, also, paste the output of "sudo ifconfig -a" and "sudo route"
[12:12] <natalie> this is fun hehe
[12:12] <bla|patrick> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4618
[12:12] <Aragorn_Guardian> i need create a shell for users, and that users dont must exit from your $HOME. what is the better and simpler way?
[12:13] <aris[glande] > Aragorn_Guardian, you want to trap the user ?
[12:13] <bla|patrick> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4619
[12:13] <aris[glande] > Aragorn_Guardian, it's not very easy to do...
[12:13] <Aragorn_Guardian> yes
[12:13] <Aragorn_Guardian> i know, is chroot
[12:13] <ni1s> bla|patrick: see http://www.d.kth.se/~vuorio/sound.en.php & http://alsa.opensrc.org/faq/#FAQ023 & http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=%2B%22Could+not+mmap+%2Fdev%2Fdsp%22&btnG=Google-s%C3%B6kning&meta=
[12:14] <Aragorn_Guardian> there is a simple shell, that do that? like replace bash?
[12:14] <bla|patrick> nils: i am a noob
[12:14] <aris[glande] > Aragorn_Guardian, they are not secure
[12:14] <ni1s> bla|patrick: we are all n00b's of life
[12:14] <voth> is there a alt. to pan (news reader) that allows multiple connection, multiple newgroups to be opened?
[12:14] <aris[glande] > Aragorn_Guardian, the better, have all your folders in /home in 700 mode (owner can read/write/exec, nobody else)
[12:14] <Aragorn_Guardian> aris[glande] :  right...but i need not so security that...only common users...hehehehehe
[12:15] <Aragorn_Guardian> aris[glande] :  nice
[12:15] <onkarshinde> I have a separate /usr partition. It has very less space left. Will moving data to new partition and changing fstab entry work?
[12:15] <aris[glande] > Aragorn_Guardian, then the guy will be able to look around installed programs but won't be able to do anything else than running them
[12:15] <Aragorn_Guardian> aris[glande] :  i will give a ssh access for some users... 8) they dont must go out of /hom/USER
[12:15] <aris[glande] > onkarshinde, it will work
[12:15] <aris[glande] > onkarshinde, use cp -a
[12:16] <onkarshinde> aris[glande] : Thanks.
[12:16] <aris[glande] > Aragorn_Guardian, yep, but they need std tools like cp, cat, ls, ...
[12:16] <ni1s> bla|patrick: This my Ubuntu friend, is for you http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=369282
[12:16] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice...is true...
[12:17] <Aragorn_Guardian> aris[glande] :  really not so easy... :/
[12:17] <ompaul> cafuego, have you spoken to the bot recently?
[12:17] <bla|patrick> there is no soundserver called arts in that menu
[12:17] <bla|patrick> how can i add arts as sound server?
[12:17] <aris[glande] > Aragorn_Guardian, this is not trivial, but you can let them browse into the system if you lock down the dirs they shouldn't browse
[12:18] <aris[glande] > Aragorn_Guardian, like /home/* and maybe external data harddisks/cdroms
[12:18] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice...
[12:18] <GullyFoyle> i just installed kubuntu and it wont let me sudo pppoeconf so i cant get on the net. it gives me su error
[12:18] <aris[glande] > bla|patrick, arts is the kde sound server - if you can do without it, the better
[12:18] <ni1s> bla|patrick: do 'echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss'
[12:18] <Aragorn_Guardian> aris[glande] :  gonna try here...thanks...
[12:20] <ni1s> bla|patrick: scroll down on this thread http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=369282
[12:20] <aris[glande] > bla|patrick, for your network problem, it's not related to ports/whatever. It's either the app which are wrongly configured or your ISP blocking bt
[12:21] <bla|patrick> nils: no rights
[12:21] <bla|patrick> that command doesnt work
[12:21] <ni1s> sudo 'the command'
[12:21] <bla|patrick> nils... i did
[12:22] <ni1s> sudo is kinda hard to get used too, but i like it
[12:22] <bla|patrick> even as root thx to sudo su it says no rights
[12:22] <bla|patrick> patrick@daedalus:~$ sudo echo "et.x86 0 0 disable" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss
[12:22] <bla|patrick> bash: /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/oss: Keine Berechtigung
[12:22] <bla|patrick> damn... why is ntohgin working with ubuntu :(
[12:23] <bla|patrick> nothing
[12:23] <ni1s> bla|patrick: from the thread: You will generally need to add write permissions even for the root user in order to echo anything to /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss. Also remember your new settings will not be preserved following a reboot.
[12:24] <ni1s> go crazy and chmod 777 it
[12:24] <bla|patrick> chmod what?
[12:24] <ni1s> my guess is that pam controls its permissins
[12:24] <bla|patrick> ok... gaming in linux = failed
[12:25] <bla|patrick> next problem
[12:25] <bla|patrick> getting torrent for filesharing work!
[12:25] <bla|patrick> how do i install azureus?
[12:25] <ni1s> haha, my problem aswell!
[12:25] <ni1s> install the jre
[12:25] <bla|patrick> the default tool doenst work
[12:25] <bla|patrick> nils: i have 1.5.05 installed
[12:26] <ni1s> download azureus and run it then
[12:26] <bla|patrick> u mean, not tar.bz2
[12:26] <robotgeek> bla|patrick: if you are okay not using azureus, i would recommend using rufus, from http://rufus.sf.net
[12:26] <ni1s> no need to install it, 'tar -xzjf azureus.tar.bz2' then run azureus in the created dir
[12:26] <bla|patrick> robotgeek, no
[12:26] <ni1s> rufus, must SEE!!!
[12:27] <ookami> is wine working in ubuntu  5.10 ?
[12:27] <robotgeek> ni1s: python, pretty fast. small footprint
[12:27] <seb__> hello ! Im french user and i ve problem with my x server, i would like to change resolution but i dont know file to configure
[12:28] <robotgeek> seb__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:28] <ni1s> robotgeek: Oh, I think I love you
[12:28] <seb__> yes thanks !
[12:28] <robotgeek> ni1s: :)
[12:29] <seb__>   oops locked by another process
[12:29] <seb__> an idea ?
[12:30] <bla|patrick> 'tar -xzjf azureus.tar.bz2' failed
[12:30] <bla|patrick> how do i unpack it?
[12:30] <bla|patrick> :(
[12:30] <robotgeek> seb__: ps -ef | grep dpkg
[12:30] <seb__> ok
[12:30] <robotgeek> bla|patrick: tar -jxf
[12:31] <glick> hey in Dia how do i rotate an object?
[12:31] <glick> does anyone know
[12:31] <glick> ?
[12:31] <robotgeek> glick: i don't think it has that feature
[12:31] <bla|patrick> robotgeek, where must azureus be moved
[12:32] <bla|patrick> so that i can open it by typing azureus in alt+f2 or console?
[12:32] <robotgeek> bla|patrick: you can run it from anywhere
[12:32] <glick> robotgeek, are you kidding me?
[12:32] <glick> that means its utterly uselses
[12:32] <bla|patrick> robotgeek, no... doesnt work
[12:32] <robotgeek> glick: use oo draw
[12:32] <glick> robotgeek, nah i cant
[12:32] <bla|patrick> azureus: command not found
[12:32] <glick> i need arroes and electrical symbols
[12:33] <bla|patrick> how do i execute azureus?
[12:33] <ni1s> ./azureus
[12:33] <jean> salve
[12:33] <robotgeek> bla|patrick: add it to your path, or add azureus to your .bashrc like, alias java='/opt/ibm-java2-ppc-50/bin/java'
[12:33] <jean> posso kiedere?
[12:33] <Aragorn_Guardian> ookami:  it runs...wonderfully.... 8)
[12:34] <Aragorn_Guardian> ookami:  i run even bochs in ubuntu...
[12:34] <bla|patrick> robotgeek, ???
[12:34] <bla|patrick> what?
[12:34] <jean> c'e qulcuno??????
[12:34] <jean> nessuno parla italiano?
[12:35] <robotgeek> bla|patrick: in your .bashrc, add the line 'alias azurues='path/to/your/azureus'
[12:35] <bla|patrick> whats bashrc?
[12:35] <CriminalMacabre> hi
[12:35] <paolo> jean, #ubuntu-it
[12:35] <CriminalMacabre> can I bother you with some questions?
[12:35] <jean> dove inserico?
[12:35] <robotgeek> bla|patrick: it's a file sourced by bash
[12:35] <robotgeek> CriminalMacabre: jump right in
[12:35] <CriminalMacabre> I upgraded from hoary to breezy
[12:36] <bla|patrick> O_o
[12:36] <CriminalMacabre> but suddenly my soundcard is not detected
[12:36] <paolo> jean, type /join #ubuntu-it
[12:36] <CriminalMacabre> I have all drivers and modules Ok
[12:36] <CriminalMacabre> and I can't find anything on the net
[12:36] <shaji> how to install mp3 now i cant play
[12:37] <Seveas> !mp3
[12:37] <ubotu> mp3 is probably to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:37] <robotgeek> glick: http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/faq.html , #16
[12:37] <shaji> yes
[12:37] <Astxist> I'm trying to eject a cd from the desktop as far as I can tell it isn't in use, but I get an error saying unable to eject media, any ideas?
[12:37] <Astxist> device is busy is the specific detail
[12:37] <CriminalMacabre> :S anyone else have problems with the soundcard in breezy?
[12:38] <robotgeek> Astxist: lsof /media/cdrom , and kill the program using it
[12:38] <Astxist> ty robotgeek
[12:38] <tche_> I'm using a router d-link 524, my emule  doesn't work well, always I get the message: low-id, somebody could help me?
[12:39] <CriminalMacabre> it happens to me too
[12:39] <tche_> Thank you! hehe
[12:39] <CriminalMacabre> since I upgraded to breezy i'm always low ID
[12:39] <aris[glande] > tche_, you should go into the router's configuration
[12:39] <CriminalMacabre> with amule or mldonkey, doesn't matter
[12:39] <aris[glande] > and do port forwarding
[12:39] <CriminalMacabre> I have no sound and low Id
[12:40] <tche_> how do it under ubuntu?
[12:40] <CriminalMacabre> and the funny part that the ports are open in the router
[12:40] <omnid_> Is sound not working a common problem?
[12:40] <aris[glande] > into the configs, amule says which ports must be forwarded; there is a tcp one and an udp one
[12:40] <netmask> where can I find reviews about Ubuntu on corporate environments either for server or workstations?
[12:40] <rj_> :/
[12:40] <ni1s> omnid_: yes, yes it is
[12:40] <omnid_> :c
[12:40] <omnid_> Is there a... common solution?
[12:41] <CriminalMacabre> aris[glande] , the low id problem hapens to me too, but I forwarded the ports in the router
[12:41] <rj_> hrm
[12:41] <Astxist> robotgeek, lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev  Output information may be incomplete.
[12:41] <CriminalMacabre> maybe breezy have a internal firewall?
[12:41] <aris[glande] > CriminalMacabre, that's what i said
[12:41] <_native_> CriminalMacabre; dapper will
[12:41] <robotgeek> tche_: i would recommend going thru the amule FAQ, and see if the outside world is able see http://www.amule.org/testport.php
[12:41] <aris[glande] > crabstic, no, it has not
[12:41] <aris[glande] > arg
[12:41] <tche_> For sure breezy has a firewall
[12:41] <aris[glande] > the fw is disabled by default
[12:41] <tche_> automaticly setup
[12:42] <CriminalMacabre> aris[glande] , how can I forward the ports in the internal firewall?
[12:42] <aris[glande] > it depends of your router
[12:42] <CriminalMacabre> erm
[12:42] <bla|patrick> crap...
[12:42] <robotgeek> Astxist: if there's no output other than that, you should be fine. try unmounting your cdrom, and eject
[12:42] <aris[glande] > they all have different interfaces
[12:42] <_native_> tche_; since when
[12:42] <bla|patrick> breezy is shit
[12:42] <bla|patrick> nothing worx
[12:42] <CriminalMacabre> the ports are open In the Router
[12:42] <bla|patrick> installed java 1.5.0_05
[12:42] <Seveas> bla|patrick, watch your language...
[12:42] <bla|patrick> and what is azureus triyng to do?
[12:42] <CriminalMacabre> router is OK because I had no problem in hoary
[12:42] <bla|patrick> starting with 1.4.x thats not installed
[12:42] <Astxist> robotgeek, ok
[12:42] <bla|patrick> no sound
[12:43] <aris[glande] > CriminalMacabre, it's not enough to open a port, you should say where they should be forwarded
[12:43] <robotgeek> bla|patrick: did you do sudo update-alternatives --config java
[12:43] <bla|patrick> no internet beside port 6667 and port 80
[12:43] <tche_> Sorry, I'm a little bit lost, hehe
[12:43] <CriminalMacabre> aris[glande] , how??
[12:43] <tche_> Beginner at Ubuntu
[12:43] <bla|patrick> robotgeek what?
[12:43] <aris[glande] > CriminalMacabre, what's your router ?
[12:43] <robotgeek> bla|patrick: you need to tell breezy to use your new java
[12:43] <bla|patrick> how do i that?
[12:43] <bla|patrick> i iinstalled a jre***.deb
[12:43] <ParTas> how to creat another partition?
[12:43] <ni1s> bla|patrick: Whats wrong with azureus?
[12:43] <robotgeek> bla|patrick: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[12:43] <Seveas> bla|patrick, user errors are not the fault of Ubuntu
[12:43] <bla|patrick> it doenst start
[12:44] <Seveas> now either grow up or read the documentation...
[12:44] <bla|patrick> user errors
[12:44] <aris[glande] > i'm really impressed how it really works out of the box
[12:44] <bla|patrick> Seveas, compiler is weired... doesnt work as sudo
[12:44] <CriminalMacabre> aris[glande] , I think is a zyxel prestige 550
[12:44] <Seveas> compiling as root is stupid
[12:44] <bla|patrick> but as root it compiles in 1 of 100 times
[12:44] <ParTas> how to creat another partition?
[12:44] <bla|patrick> weired...
[12:44] <bla|patrick> no sound... network ports dont work
[12:44] <aris[glande] > CriminalMacabre, try connect to the web interface
[12:44] <aris[glande] > and look for "port forwarding"
[12:45] <bla|patrick> kde doesnt list my partitions, that are mounted in /media/
[12:45] <Seveas> bla|patrick, how incredibly descriptive
[12:45] <Astxist> robotgeek, still getting umount: /media/cdrecorder: device is busy
[12:45] <Seveas> bla|patrick, it's not supposed to
[12:45] <Seveas> read the docs...
[12:45] <tche_> Look the message, please:
[12:45] <tche_> Error: TCP port 4662 is unavailable. Make sure your firewall or router is allowing/forwarding this TCP service port and your ED2K client is running (i.e. aMule, eMule).
[12:45] <tche_> Detailed Error Message
[12:45] <tche_> TCP Error 110 Connection refused
[12:45] <tche_> Explanation
[12:45] <tche_> The connection timed out, meaning the port is being blocked or incorrectly forwarded by a firewall or your computer is turned off :)
[12:45] <robotgeek> tche_: don't paste in here
[12:45] <Seveas> NEVER
[12:45] <Seveas> EVER
[12:45] <CriminalMacabre> aris[glande] , let me tell you again... the firmware in the router it's OK!!!
[12:45] <Seveas> paste
[12:45] <_native_> who needs a good firewall script?
[12:45] <bla|patrick> Seveas, this kio-tool is supposed to load the stuff from /media into its media:/
[12:45] <CriminalMacabre> sigh
[12:45] <ParTas> how to creat another partition?
[12:45] <bla|patrick> it doesnt
[12:45] <ParTas> how to creat another partition?
[12:45] <Seveas> bla|patrick, if you are here just for complaining, please leave. If you want herlp: describe your problems better.
[12:45] <aris[glande] > CriminalMacabre, then, if you configured your router well, it should work
[12:46] <robotgeek> ParTas: look at gparted
[12:46] <_native_> ParTas; parted
[12:46] <Seveas> Bugs -> bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[12:46] <CriminalMacabre> aris[glande] , it doesn't
[12:46] <Astxist> ok nautilus is using them
[12:46] <Astxist> I haven't got it open is it safe to kill it?
[12:46] <bla|patrick> Seveas, nothing helps here... only links to howtos that dont solve anything :(
[12:46] <robotgeek> Astxist: ahh, close nautilus and eject it
[12:47] <Astxist> nautilus isn't open
[12:47] <bla|patrick> Seveas, describing problems... i tried
[12:47] <robotgeek> Astxist: okay, killall nautilus
[12:47] <Astxist> at least I can't see it in the ui
[12:47] <Astxist> ok
[12:47] <bla|patrick> ja... try to help me
[12:47] <Astxist> ok all good thank you very much robotgeek
[12:48] <bla|patrick> nils failed :(
[12:48] <CriminalMacabre> aris[glande] , id's are ok
[12:48] <bla|patrick> he has no idea either
[12:48] <CriminalMacabre> now the problem is the sound card
[12:48] <bla|patrick> so... ur op, u might now more than he
[12:48] <ni1s> bla|patrick: huh?
[12:48] <bla|patrick> ja... sound
[12:48] <Seveas> then you should describe your problems better
[12:48] <Astxist> robotgeek, anyway to stop that kind of thing happening again?
[12:48] <bla|patrick> and the weired problem why i cant use the default torrent tool
[12:48] <Seveas> "doesn't work" is not a description.
[12:48] <aris[glande] > CriminalMacabre, sound card is crictical for your amule ?
[12:48] <bla|patrick> Seveas, tell me what u need to know
[12:49] <CriminalMacabre> aris[glande] , nopes
[12:49] <Seveas> bla|patrick, for the sound: output of lspci and lsmod
[12:49] <bla|patrick> network... i have pasted output of console on pastbin
[12:49] <CriminalMacabre> sorry for bothering you with the ports, aris[glande]  :(
[12:49] <robotgeek> Astxist: i can't ask you to stop using nautilus, can i :)
[12:49] <Seveas> for the network: output of iptables -L
[12:49] <aris[glande] > np
[12:49] <bla|patrick> seveas: no sound in et
[12:49] <Astxist> robotgeek, it was a wmv video it got stuck on
[12:49] <bla|patrick> i posted that in pastebin awell
[12:49] <bla|patrick>  60min ago
[12:49] <Seveas> bla|patrick, but sound everywhere else?
[12:49] <bla|patrick> ya
[12:49] <Seveas> then et should be taught to use esd
[12:49] <Astxist> I'm thinking it got stuck previewing it
[12:49] <Astxist> or something like that
[12:49] <Seveas> or you should kill esd before running et
[12:49] <bla|patrick> esd is not working
[12:49] <bla|patrick> killall esd was suggested
[12:50] <bla|patrick> but there is NO process using esd
[12:50] <robotgeek> Astxist: ah, okay.
[12:50] <bla|patrick> i told that 50min ago
[12:50] <Seveas> bla|patrick, then complain at the ET developers -> ET is closed source and we can't help it
[12:50] <Seveas> now about the network, you say only 6667 an 80 work?
[12:51] <Seveas> bla|patrick, try csurfing to https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:51] <bla|patrick> already tried
[12:51] <robotgeek> bla|patrick: please also note that we are mostly volunteers, and just complaining about stuff not working is not going to help.
[12:51] <Seveas> and?
[12:51] <bla|patrick> i know... but he kicked me with reason to help another people
[12:51] <Marlun> I don't get it, Now I formated all my drives, installed windows on my first hd and now tried to install ubuntu on my second one and the installation as usual freezes at the "installing grub package".
[12:52] <Seveas> bla|patrick, if that does not work post the output of iptables -t filter -L on the pastebin
[12:52] <bla|patrick> i did...
[12:52] <Seveas> URL please
[12:52] <bla|patrick> 60min atop
[12:52] <bla|patrick> havent saved that
[12:52] <robotgeek> bla|patrick: if you are going to be lazy about posting the link, i'm sure Seveas will be lazy to help :)
[12:53] <Seveas> bla|patrick, check your router/provider/whatever
[12:53] <Seveas> Ubuntu is not blocking anything
[12:53] <robotgeek> bla|patrick: try www.portforward.com
[12:53] <Seveas> try: sudo nmap -sS -t --port 443 wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:53] <bla|patrick> my provider isnt blocking anything
[12:54] <bla|patrick> in windows it worx at full spedd
[12:54] <Katsumoto> then it might be a NAT problem
[12:54] <CriminalMacabre> hello, I cannot find anything in the net about not detected soundcards in breezy
[12:54] <bla|patrick> directly connected by modem
[12:54] <bla|patrick> no router
[12:54] <Katsumoto> you could try to port forward it manyually if it's a router/modem
[12:54] <bla|patrick> no firewall
[12:54] <bla|patrick> its a basic dsl modem
[12:54] <Katsumoto> you can't access ur modem as well?
[12:54] <bla|patrick> no
[12:54] <Katsumoto> what type
[12:54] <bla|patrick> no firewall
[12:55] <bla|patrick> i dunno
[12:55] <Katsumoto> heh
[12:55] <Seveas> bla|patrick, try: sudo nmap -p 443 -sS wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:55] <robotgeek> CriminalMacabre: you need to provide information about what soundcard you have, preferably post the output of lspci and lsmod to the pastebin
[12:55] <CriminalMacabre> 0000:00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02)
[12:56] <bla|patrick> nmap not found
[12:56] <Seveas> sudo apt-get install nmap
[12:57] <robotgeek> CriminalMacabre:  sudo modprobe snd-ca0106 , try this...i'm researching your issue
[12:57] <CriminalMacabre> robotgeek, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4620
[12:57] <CriminalMacabre> robotgeek, it's done
[12:57] <CriminalMacabre> now I should restart alsa?
[12:57] <bla|patrick> iptables  @ Seveas  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4621
[12:59] <Seveas> bla|patrick, I already saw that, that's why I suggested nmap
[01:00] <robotgeek> CriminalMacabre: sudo modprobe snd-ens1371
[01:00] <robotgeek> CriminalMacabre: then, turn up volume using alsamixer, and try playing something
[01:00] <CriminalMacabre> no effect
[01:00] <bla|patrick> btw. reconfigureing java didnt worked
[01:00] <_null> Hi! I have a problem compiling custom software. I'm getting this error: intltoolize: 'po/Makefile.in.in' is out of date: use '--force' to overwrite... Is this a problem with the software or with ubuntu?
[01:01] <CriminalMacabre> /etc/init.d/alsa restart returns error
[01:01] <robotgeek> CriminalMacabre: it's /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[01:01] <CriminalMacabre> done
[01:01] <Seveas> _null, the software
[01:01] <CriminalMacabre> lsactl: save_state:1163: No soundcards found...'.
[01:01] <bla|patrick> i need a repo that contains azureus and the lates sun java
[01:01] <CriminalMacabre>                                                                          [fail] 
[01:01] <robotgeek> CriminalMacabre: all i can do is refer you to the http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Ensoniq&card=.&chip=ES1371%2C+ES1372%2C+ES1373%2C+CT5880+%28ES1373%29&module=ens1371
[01:02] <robotgeek> uggh, ugly
[01:02] <Seveas> bla|patrick, breezy-extras (see the backports section on the forum)
[01:02] <Seveas> if you installed it manually: no wonder it doesn't work
[01:02] <CriminalMacabre> robotgeek, the drivers are ok, it detects something in the PCI but it doesn't recognize as a soundcard, so is useless to play with the drivers
[01:02] <robotgeek> CriminalMacabre: lsmod shows that the driver is loaded?
[01:03] <robotgeek> CriminalMacabre: yeah, it does. weird
[01:03] <CriminalMacabre> i think it's weird too
[01:04] <bla|patrick> Seveas, i have them in my list
[01:04] <robotgeek> CriminalMacabre: i'm not a sound guru, so that's all i know. sorry
[01:04] <bla|patrick> but neither java nor azureus in synaptic
[01:04] <bla|patrick> so it had not other choice than installing it manually
[01:04] <Ng> whereabouts is that script that finds/mounts ntfs volumes for you? cba doing it by hand ;)
[01:04] <ParTas> pleaze msg me to privat how to creat another partition or fotmat ubuntu
[01:05] <ParTas> pleaze msg me to privat how to creat another partition or format ubuntu
[01:05] <CriminalMacabre> robotgeek, there's any other help channel?
[01:05] <Ng> also, does anyone know if it's possible to make breezy browse a windows server 2003 network? It just keeps asking for my login details, which I think relates to it defaulting to using crypto stuff :/
[01:05] <robotgeek> CriminalMacabre: i would just suggest that you look up the forums if some else had this issue, or ask here again later.
[01:06] <bla|patrick> ParTas, gparted
[01:06] <CriminalMacabre> robotgeek, thanks
[01:06] <bla|patrick> Seveas, do u know another sources that contaiin java and/or azureus?
[01:06] <CriminalMacabre> robotgeek, you mean the forums of ununtu?
[01:06] <CriminalMacabre> ubuntu
[01:07] <CriminalMacabre> :S
[01:07] <robotgeek> CriminalMacabre: yes
[01:07] <bla|patrick> i wonder why nothing is working as its did in hoary :(
[01:08] <bla|patrick> breezy: installing new software --> problems
[01:08] <bla|patrick> hoary: installing new software --> be happy
[01:08] <bla|patrick> but hoary is outdated :/
[01:08] <Corin> what types of server are there? web, ftp, irc....   anything else??
[01:08] <bla|patrick> robotgeek, my hoary was broken
[01:08] <bla|patrick> but now its even worse
[01:09] <bla|patrick> the upgrade from hoary to breezy via repos destroyed kde...
[01:09] <bla|patrick> here... any click a errormessage
[01:09] <bla|patrick> i decided to make a clean install
[01:09] <bla|patrick> AND i expected problems, but the situation now is silly
[01:10] <bla|patrick> cant install anything and use it... it always takes hours to fix it :/
[01:10] <angelfire> helloooooooooooooooooooooo
[01:10] <angelfire> haha
[01:10] <bla|patrick> angelfire, :'(
[01:10] <Ophiocus> bla|patrick, did you try clean as in really clean? burning an iso n all?
[01:10] <bla|patrick> jep
[01:10] <bla|patrick> backuped my data
[01:11] <Corin> anyone?
[01:11] <bla|patrick> deleted ubuntu and started discinstaller
[01:11] <martii> bla|patrick: breezy sux
[01:11] <bla|patrick> firsttime i thought that breezy may be wrecked at install
[01:11] <martii> bla|patrick: you will have alot of time making it work
[01:11] <bla|patrick> so i decided to try it a 2nd time
[01:11] <bla|patrick> nothing changed :(
[01:11] <Ophiocus> bla|patrick, did you format your drive?
[01:12] <Ophiocus> am still thinking vestiges may be corrupting your install
[01:12] <bla|patrick> Ophiocus, if i had not i would be imipossible to install breezy
[01:12] <bla|patrick> at least in the same partition
[01:12] <bla|patrick> robotgeek, no opera, no azureus, no java, no flash?
[01:12] <Ophiocus> and what problems are you having?
[01:13] <robotgeek> Corin: apt-cache search server | less
[01:13] <robotgeek> bla|patrick: yeah, nothing of all that
[01:13] <bla|patrick> no flash O_o
[01:13] <bla|patrick> ur kidding
[01:13] <Ophiocus> Corin, wants you to do his homework, i say he should google for it
[01:13] <Ophiocus> :)
[01:14] <robotgeek> bla|patrick: you would be surprised at how fast your browsing is without all the crud :)
[01:14] <bla|patrick> ya.. but i wont be able to play any games
[01:14] <Ophiocus> me neither, good content sites dont tend to use flash, too coumbersome to maintain,. and not having flash is like, the best adblocker ever
[01:14] <bla|patrick> neither java nor flash games
[01:14] <bla|patrick> and this is a home pc
[01:15] <robotgeek> bla|patrick: this is my home laptop :)
[01:15] <bla|patrick> robotgeek, ok...
[01:15] <bla|patrick> its ur taste...
[01:15] <Ophiocus> bla|patrick, what kind of problem are you having?
[01:15] <bla|patrick> i could stand that
[01:15] <aris[glande] > i disagree with your opinion. flash *is* something one would want with good reasons
[01:15] <aris[glande] > i have an amd64 and no flash *really* annoys me
[01:15] <bla|patrick> Ophiocus, no sound in games, java doesnt working, azureus isnt starting coze of that
[01:16] <robotgeek> aris[glande] : we could pursue this discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic without involing the wrath of the ops
[01:16] <bla|patrick> i cant access bittorrent tracker
[01:16] <bla|patrick> hmmm
[01:16] <darksoul> hey, can you upgrade to a 64bit version of ubuntu without using the cd?
[01:16] <Ng> aris[glande] : install a 32bit browser or buy crossover and use their 32bit plugin bridge
[01:16] <bla|patrick> in kde my partitions (my mounted ones) are not displayed
[01:16] <Ng> darksoul: from a 32bit version? almost certainly not
[01:16] <Ophiocus> well granted you have config issues
[01:17] <darksoul> Ng: *sigh* i just cant get my res to work right on a cd
[01:17] <aris[glande] > Ng, or try to sue macromedia so they support amd64
[01:17] <bla|patrick> Ophiocus, how do i solve them?
[01:17] <darksoul> Ng: on the 64bit version..on 32bit my res is fine
[01:17] <Ng> aris[glande] : sorry, I thought you wanted help, not to whinge
[01:17] <aris[glande] > i said 'flash by default is important, you cannot tell somebody it's better not to use flash and no flash by default is good'
[01:17] <Ophiocus> am asuming you run win games with cedega or something like that?,. try to configure it to work with the right soundcard
[01:18] <bla|patrick> no.... enemy territory
[01:18] <bla|patrick> linux version
[01:18] <darksoul> Ng: why is it my res wont work right in 64bit but in x86 install it works fine?
[01:18] <chiman> .
[01:18] <bla|patrick> i haven tryed cedega because i have an ati card
[01:18] <Ophiocus> kde no mounts showing up can be a user priviledges issue
[01:18] <Ng> darksoul: what do you mean by "res"?
[01:18] <bla|patrick> they dont support ati very well
[01:18] <chiman> how do we create flash file in linux? is there any application in linux like macromedia flash?
[01:18] <bla|patrick> Ophiocus, talking about that konqueror menu media:/ where kde should display my mounted drives
[01:19] <robotgeek> aris[glande] : no one said that. i just said it's my opinion
[01:19] <barongas> chiman, cxoffice has been known to claim to be able to run macromedia flash
[01:19] <darksoul> Ng: my res sould be 2280x2024 or somthing like that, but on the 64bit version it wont change from the 3d defults
[01:19] <Ophiocus> well, its all config issues,. you ll have to play around,.. no apps freezing or misbehaving is a good sign
[01:19] <chiman> barongas, ok.. thanks
[01:19] <darksoul> Ng: 3* not 3d lol
[01:19] <bla|patrick> Ophiocus, i have no idea what i should do
[01:19] <bla|patrick> i am a noob
[01:19] <bla|patrick> all i can do is to ask for help
[01:19] <bla|patrick> wiki.ubuntu is very useless at this point :(
[01:20] <bla|patrick> and if i google for that konqueror issue i only get hints how to create mount-points
[01:20] <bla|patrick> but thats not the problem :(
[01:20] <darksoul> well wine is a good game runner if you can configure it right to your system settings..and are willing for a bit of lag
[01:20] <Ng> darksoul: not sure, and I don't really have time to start digging through it with you. you could try and copy the xorg.conf from your 32bit install to the 64bit one maybe
[01:20] <aris[glande] > darksoul, can you read anything on your screen with such a res ? :)
[01:21] <bla|patrick> i aksed in differt linux forums but nobody had experienced this :(
[01:21] <mustard5> bla|patrick, java sounds like the easiest issue to fix
[01:21] <bonbon> hallo
[01:21] <darksoul> aris: yes..its 1024x740 or somthing like that on the 64bit
[01:21] <mustard5> welcome bonbon
[01:21] <aris[glande] > darksoul, i only have 2304x1024
[01:21] <darksoul> aris: it just wont go to the res i need it and its annoying, since i have a 17" LCD screen
[01:22] <Ng> I'd be awfully surprised if a 17" LCD can do 2280x2024
[01:22] <aris[glande] > darksoul, a 17" doing 2280x2024 ?
[01:22] <bla|patrick> mustard5, my console tells "*+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[01:22] <bla|patrick> " is active
[01:22] <darksoul> aris: ..no..
[01:22] <aris[glande] > you mean, 1280x1024
[01:22] <bla|patrick> but i dont see the jre from sun i installed with deb
[01:22] <darksoul> aris: it just wont go to the res i need. its stuck around 800X600
[01:22] <fredforfaen> most 17" dont do more than 1600X1200
[01:22] <barongas> Anyone know why my system will not mount my local reiserfs drive? the line in etc/fstab looks like: /dev/hdc1       /mnt/hd2        reiserfs        defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 and I can mount it manually with sudo mount -t reiserfs /dev/hdc1 /mnt/hd2
[01:23] <aris[glande] > my 18" does 1280x1024
[01:23] <mustard5> bla|patrick, where did you download the java from?
[01:23] <darksoul> aris: yea thats what mine does
[01:23] <aris[glande] > i had no problem with the resolution
[01:23] <darksoul> aris: and on the 64bit version it wont, which is why im on 32bit atm
[01:23] <holycow> the tsclient in gnome / ubuntu doesn't do any ssh forwarding, does it?
[01:23] <bla|patrick> from sun
[01:23] <aris[glande] > i just had to add lines to have xinerama enabled
[01:23] <bla|patrick> and processed it to a deb
[01:23] <ookami> help! i cant seem to install wine properly... or i dont know what im doing.  i managed to install wine, but when trying to open a win program it says cant display location
[01:23] <darksoul> aris: i tried that. it wouldent work. what did you add?
[01:24] <mustard5> bla|patrick, using the wiki guide for installing java?
[01:24] <aris[glande] > darksoul, for xinerama ?
[01:24] <darksoul> aris: whatever will help is fine..but im thinking about xorg.conf
[01:24] <bla|patrick> all i found is referring to a apt-get entry that doesnt exist anymore
[01:24] <darksoul> bla: make sure you add SUDO before the apt-get commands
[01:25] <mustard5> bla|patrick, if you installed it with a .deb you could uninstall it and try the deb package I can link you to
[01:25] <bla|patrick> darksoul, i checked with synaptic
[01:25] <bla|patrick> in the repos are no suns
[01:25] <aris[glande] > darksoul, copy your 32 bits xorg.conf into a safe location, reinstall 64 bits and then inspect differences
[01:25] <ookami> what is the command to start wine?
[01:25] <bla|patrick> no sun-javas
[01:25] <barongas> ookami, append http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/ to your /etc/apt/sources.list and get it via apt Then you prolly need to hassle it with configuring it
[01:25] <darksoul> aris: will that work thou?
[01:25] <bla|patrick> i added those backport list
[01:25] <ni1s> ookami: wine <windowsprogram.exe>
[01:25] <mustard5> bla|patrick, I can only help you if you listen
[01:26] <darksoul> aris: and i really didint notice anything diffrant on the 64bit version..whats more better on it anyway? besides some things that have 64bit code..
[01:26] <barongas> ookami, winecfg might be good to run first
[01:26] <ni1s> ookami: google for +wine +sidenet
[01:26] <ni1s> sidenets a good tool
[01:26] <oy> A "sudo apt-get update" resulted in the following message:
[01:26] <oy> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[01:26] <ookami> bash: winecfg: command not found
[01:26] <aris[glande] > darksoul, 64bits can be 30% faster in some operations
[01:26] <darksoul> nils: how do you run games if they require a cd on wine..i managed to do it before but i forgot lol
[01:26] <darksoul> aris: but theres alot less support right?
[01:26] <aris[glande] > darksoul, a little less, and some compatibility issues
[01:27] <bla|patrick> mustard5, uninstalled
[01:27] <mustard5> k
[01:27] <ni1s> darksoul: you need to create symlinks to your cdroms from dosdevices/
[01:27] <mustard5> bla|patrick, download the jre1.5 package from here http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/
[01:27] <mustard5> bla|patrick, I take it you are on breezy?
[01:27] <ni1s> darksoul: that or a NoCD "patch"
[01:28] <darksoul> aris: yea.. ill wait a bit, i thought this computer couldent even run a gui, it only ran on server-only..so i did a mem test and long behold.. 200 thou errors... i took out one ram stick and it runs smoth now..*sigh* i was about to buy a new cpu
[01:28] <Corin> can someone tell me how to set a quote on a user account?
[01:29] <darksoul> Corin: system/administration/users and groups ( i think )
[01:29] <bla|patrick> W: Die Datei http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb konnte nicht heruntergeladen werden
[01:29] <bla|patrick>   403 Forbidden
[01:29] <darksoul> bla: get new sources. it might help
[01:29] <mustard5> bla|patrick, hehe well that sucks :)
[01:29] <ookami> how do i verify if wine is installed correctly?
[01:29] <bla|patrick> i added seveas deb-link
[01:29] <Corin> darksoul, in command-line?
[01:30] <darksoul> Corin: no are you in gnome?
[01:30] <mustard5> bla|patrick, sorry about that it was working today :)
[01:30] <Corin> darksoul, no, im in command-line
[01:30] <ookami> do i have to reboot after installing wine?
[01:30] <ni1s> bla|patrick: download and install Automatrix -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[01:30] <darksoul> Corin: oh lol
[01:30] <darksoul> Corin: one sec
[01:30] <Corin> ok
[01:30] <darksoul> ookami: no
[01:30] <ni1s> bla|patrick: install java and azureus with that
[01:31] <mustard5> bla|patrick, when you downloaded from sun site, which package did you get?
[01:31] <darksoul> ookami: just download a simple windows application, then right click on it and click run on wine or whatever
[01:31] <darksoul> ookami: or go into terminal and cd to the dir, then type wine "name of your program"
[01:31] <ookami> it does not offer that option :( thats whats puzzling me.
[01:31] <bla|patrick> that installer, mustard5
[01:31] <bla|patrick> W: GPG error: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht berprft werden weil ihre ffentlichen Schlssel nicht verfgbar sind: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[01:32] <Corin_777> darksoul?
[01:32] <mustard5> bla|patrick, on the main page of the yar repository is a gpg key
[01:32] <darksoul> Corin_777: ?
[01:32] <tche> Hello, how can I install the sun java virtual machine?
[01:32] <Corin_777> darksoul, you said one sec...    ?
[01:32] <Corin_777> highvoltage, that you?
[01:32] <darksoul> Corin_777: i know, im looking it up
[01:32] <Corin_777> ok
[01:32] <Corin_777> :)
[01:32] <Corin_777> highvoltage, that you?
[01:32] <bla|patrick> jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[01:32] <darksoul> Corin_777: http://ubuntuguide.org/#usersadministration that sould help
[01:32] <Corin_777> :D
[01:32] <bla|patrick> i unpacked that bin and made with alien a deb
[01:33] <ookami> darksoul doing that i get: bash: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or director
[01:33] <Seveas> darksoul, don't recommend ubuntuguide
[01:33] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is crap
[01:33] <oliTur> hi, does anybody have succeed installing freenx on ubuntu breezy ?
[01:33] <mustard5> bla|patrick, ok I'm just checking the package myself...hang on :)
[01:33] <Seveas> bla|patrick, if you go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl you see how to add the pubkey
[01:33] <darksoul> Seaveas: he said hes in server-only mode, so its not crap in that area
[01:33] <tche> thank you bla|patrick
[01:34] <darksoul> ookami: then you might want to install wine
[01:34] <bla|patrick> Seveas, it would be nice if u had added a "home" link on that site :/
[01:34] <highvoltage> hello?
[01:34] <darksoul> ookami: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[01:34] <Seveas> bla|patrick, there is....
[01:34] <mustard5> Seveas, I'm getting connection issues to the site
[01:34] <Seveas> mustard5, errors -> pastebin
[01:35] <mustard5> k
[01:35] <ookami> odd. i thought i already did that.
[01:35] <bla|patrick> Seveas, ur iste doestn load
[01:35] <ookami> *tries again*
[01:35] <bla|patrick> site
[01:35] <ookami> wincfg
[01:36] <Seveas> bla|patrick, it's probably busy on the server
[01:36] <bla|patrick> :/
[01:36] <darksoul> Seveas: i have found ubuntuguide most reliable on server-only installs, dont say things you dont know about, unless you have been in server-only install and tried it lol
[01:36] <oy> A "sudo apt-get update" resulted in the following message:
[01:36] <oy> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[01:37] <darksoul> ookami: did it help?
[01:37] <oy> The instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes does not work
[01:38] <darksoul> oy: ...the best way to install breezy is do a best install.. i found that out after 5 reinstalls of hory just to get breezy working right..then i still had to do a fresh install
[01:38] <bla|patrick> W: Die Datei http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb konnte nicht heruntergeladen werden
[01:38] <bla|patrick>   Konnte nicht mit seveas.ubuntulinux.nl:80 verbinden (83.160.7.26). - connect (111 Verbindungsaufbau abgelehnt)
[01:38] <darksoul> 5 am here =/
[01:38] <oy> darksoul: Is that so.. :-(
[01:39] <darksoul> oy: yea.. upgrading really messes your system up most of the time
[01:39] <bla|patrick> Seveas, ok
[01:39] <bla|patrick> got ya key
[01:39] <VSpike> Can anyone tell me how I configure my ubuntu system to use DHCP to get an address on startup? I dont have any X installed
[01:39] <bla|patrick> but still unable to access ur server :/
[01:39] <mustard5> bla|patrick, I'm getting server busy errors, I'd wait till later
[01:39] <oy> darksoul: What I really wanted to do, was to upgrade WindowMaker. Can I do that without upgrading to 5.10 ?
[01:39] <bla|patrick> Seveas, have u some azureus builts for breezy too?
[01:39] <orbx> Can anyone suggest a good C++ compiler for Ubuntu?
[01:39] <|3lack|ce> 'lo y'all - any idea on why my browsers keep crashing after like a minute or so?
[01:40] <darksoul> oy: donno.. i dont use that lol
[01:40] <darksoul> oy: but prob, just wget it
[01:40] <Seveas> bla|patrick, no
[01:40] <VSpike> is there any way i can run the network configurator from the setup again?
[01:40] <Seveas> bla|patrick, and Ive shut down the server - too many connections
[01:40] <bla|patrick> ok
[01:40] <|3lack|ce> happens on both ephiphany and firefox - site matters not, although things running flash or java make it happen faster.
[01:40] <oy> darksoul: Ok. So there is no dependencies on the Ubuntu release as such.
[01:41] <Corin_777> darksoul, ive had a look, didnt see much about quotas.....
[01:41] <darksoul> Corin_777: what were you trying to do again lol
[01:41] <Corin_777> darksoul, i have /var/www/sam/ owned by username "sam", i want to set a size limit either to user sam or folder /var/www/sam/
[01:41] <bla|patrick> btw. in hoary i had this windows media codec stuff from repos
[01:41] <bla|patrick> will that come back into breezy?
[01:42] <N6REJ> I need help writing to a cdrw from the command line.  I have a large file I need to backup.
[01:42] <darksoul> Corin_777: oh LOL website..that was system administration, your best bet would be to post in ubuntu forums or edit the apache.conf or somthing
[01:43] <darksoul> Corin: or you could limit the file size some how..but im not sure...
[01:43] <Corin_777> darksoul, i was told that it would be best to edit the ubuntu user settings, as apache couldnt do it or something...
[01:43] <orbx> I'm new to linux, does anyone know how to compile C++ in the terminal?
[01:43] <N6REJ> can anyone help me?
[01:43] <darksoul> Corin: but hes going to be using FTP right
[01:44] <ni1s> orbx: Compile C++ in the terminal? you mean using gcc from the command line?
[01:44] <orbx> yes
[01:44] <bla|patrick> hmmm... well iptables must block bittorrent
[01:44] <bla|patrick> no peers here although it looks for 32minutes now
[01:44] <ni1s> orbx: read the gcc and g++ man pages
[01:44] <orbx> nils: how do you install gcc?
[01:45] <queuetue> I did an "server" install and now would like to use the box in a more double-duty role.  How can I bring in the rest of a minimal "standard" ubuntu install?  (x server, gdm, etc...)
[01:45] <orbx> nils: ok thank you
[01:45] <darksoul> queuetue: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, then you would start gdm
[01:45] <ni1s> orbx: 'sudo apt-get install gcc gcc-4.0 g++ g++-4.0'
[01:46] <darksoul> queuetue: i think..i havent tried that yet on a server install
[01:46] <ni1s> orbx: 'sudo apt-get install gcc-4.0-doc'
[01:46] <jsubl2> orbx: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:46] <ni1s> yeah jsubl2 thanks
[01:47] <VSpike> man dhclient
[01:47] <orbx> nils: does g++ come with ubuntu or do i have to download?
[01:47] <VSpike> soz wrong terminal
[01:47] <|3lack|ce> comes with ubuntu
[01:47] <ni1s> download it
[01:47] <Astxist> heh
[01:47] <orbx> nils: where from?
[01:47] <queuetue> Wow, 792 images and 1.2 gigs for the desktop?  Does that sound right?
[01:47] <ni1s> use Synaptic
[01:48] <queuetue> I'm used to the old days, where an entire linux install was 100 megs or so... :)
[01:48] <holycow> *hmmm*
[01:48] <holycow> does ubuntu have online package repositories like debian?  all i see is iso's
[01:48] <|3lack|ce> xwindows based gui queuetue - always huge.
[01:49] <wolverian> holycow, yes. packages.ubuntu.com is the WWW interface
[01:49] <CriminalMacabre> sigh
[01:49] <wolverian> holycow, the GUI interfaces are the application installer in the applications menu, Synaptic and apt.
[01:49] <ni1s> |3lack|ce: Was the question why your borwser craches?
[01:49] <queuetue> |3lack|ce: More gnome than X, I suspect.
[01:49] <_jason> hi, can anyone help me with xbindkeys.  Is there a way to make a button repeat an action until it a key is released? I've tried reading the man page and searching but can't find out if this is possible.  Thanks.
[01:49] <|3lack|ce> nils: yes.
[01:49] <CriminalMacabre> breezy doesnt detect mu soundcard and I cannot find anything in the wiki
[01:50] <theine> |3lack|ce, I'd guess due to a flaky plugin
[01:50] <CriminalMacabre> I feel a little bit frustrated because there's no alsaconf
[01:50] <ni1s> |3lack|ce: Probably a fauly plugin?
[01:50] <ni1s> yah what he said
[01:50] <holycow> wolverian, just want to download a package manually, not haveto fish it out of the apt cache :)
[01:50] <|3lack|ce> theine: nils: how do I fix this issue?
[01:50] <theine> |3lack|ce, avoid using that plugin
[01:50] <wolverian> holycow, you want to download it but not install it?
[01:51] <|3lack|ce> theine: that told me nothing - how do I tell which plugin is faulty?
[01:51] <theine> |3lack|ce, type about:plugins in firefox's adress bar and see what's loaded
[01:51] <ni1s> what plugins do you have in your plugin dir?
[01:51] <|3lack|ce> theine: thanks much.
[01:51] <holycow> wolverian, well of course, otherwise what is the point of a web interface with respect to apt?
[01:51] <holycow> :)
[01:51] <wolverian> holycow, apt-get install --download-only packagename
[01:52] <theine> |3lack|ce, I don't know either which plugin you have to remove, but probably one of them...
[01:52] <holycow> no that puts it in the cache, i'm not fishing crap out of that, but i found the web serach dealy
[01:52] <holycow> cool :)
[01:52] <|3lack|ce> theine: lol 2 plugins only - flash and futuresplash. I'm betting futuresplash...but who knows :P
[01:53] <theine> |3lack|ce, I'd bet so too
[01:53] <|3lack|ce> theine: how do I remove  this?   /me knows little about plugins :P
[01:53] <ni1s> yeah me too
[01:53] <theine> |3lack|ce, go to ~/.mozilla/plugins
[01:53] <|3lack|ce> theine kk.
[01:54] <theine> |3lack|ce, is there any futuresplash stuff in there?
[01:54] <|3lack|ce> theine: couldn't get it - came up googlesearch for tilde. lemme try again.
[01:55] <theine> |3lack|ce, wait!
[01:55] <|3lack|ce> theine: waiting :)
[01:55] <theine> |3lack|ce, open up a terminal
[01:55] <|3lack|ce> ah k. sec
[01:55] <theine> |3lack|ce, and type "cd ~/.mozilla/plugins"
[01:55] <|3lack|ce> theine: k. there.
[01:56] <theine> |3lack|ce, you know how to work the command line?
[01:56] <|3lack|ce> theine: this will fix the epiphany too, yes?
[01:56] <theine> |3lack|ce, probably
[01:56] <wolverian> holycow, this is a bit silly, but: apt-get install --print-uris --assume-yes muine | awk '{print $1}' | tail -1 | xargs wget
[01:56] <|3lack|ce> theine: sorry, I'm brand noob at this - one course in sco about 7 years back.
[01:56] <theine> |3lack|ce, most likely
[01:56] <holycow> wolverian, rofl :)
[01:56] <enkrav> does ubuntus 5.10 cd ship with gcc?
[01:56] <holycow> indeed :)
[01:57] <|3lack|ce> theine: can ls and apt-get with the best of 'em, but that's about it.
[01:57] <theine> |3lack|ce, ok, type "ls"
[01:57] <|3lack|ce> theine: flashplayer.xpt libflashplayer.so
[01:57] <wolverian> enkrav, no, install build-essential
[01:58] <theine> |3lack|ce, type "rm flashplayer.xpt libflashplayer.so" and see if the crashes go away
[01:58] <|3lack|ce> theine: kk. sec.
[01:58] <enkrav> wolverian, I will need an internet connection, but at the moment the box has not, any advice?
[01:58] <|3lack|ce> theine: both of 'em? hrm. can do.
[01:58] <theine> |3lack|ce, you can always re-enable the flashplugin later
[01:58] <|3lack|ce> theine: true. k. sec
[01:58] <wolverian> enkrav, not really. sorry. :)
[01:59] <orbx> nils: i have download g++, what do i do now?
[01:59] <Corin_777> can someone tell me how to set a quota on one user, from command-line?
[01:59] <warter> how do i set ubuntu up with 2 monitors
[01:59] <warter> ??
[01:59] <Juhaz> enkrav, gcc (4.0 and 3.3) is on cd but not installed by default
[01:59] <|3lack|ce> theine: k. let's see if she crashes. sec
[01:59] <moro> hi!I have a problem: I wrote a little program with emacs but if I try to compile it with gcc, it tell that stdio doesn't exist. wha't can i do?
[02:00] <paulproteus> moro: Install build-essential.
[02:00] <enkrav> Juhaz, with their corresponding devel glibcs?
[02:00] <ookami> how do i rename my .wine folder?
[02:00] <paulproteus> enkrav: If you want compiling to work, install build-essential first, then the specific compiler you want.
[02:00] <moro> thanks!
[02:00] <Corin_777> anyone?
[02:00] <welp> in ubuntu good?
[02:00] <bla|patrick> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo?highlight=%28azureus%29 <--- which universe and multiverse must be there
[02:01] <paulproteus> Corin_777: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialQuotas.html
[02:01] <welp> anyone use ubuntu on a 64bit system?
[02:01] <paulproteus> welp: Yes, people like me.
[02:01] <Juhaz> enkrav, yeah, libc6-dev is there. would be silly to ship gcc if you couldn't use it to build anything :)
[02:01] <warter> is there someone who can tell me how to turn on more than one vid card at once to support 2 monitors????
[02:01] <welp> paulproteus, are there any ubuntu 64bit channels?
[02:01] <paulproteus> welp: Beats me; I just hang out here.
[02:02] <welp> paulproteus, lol
[02:02] <warter> im running 64 bit
[02:02] <theine> LOL!
[02:02] <Corin_777> thanks paulproteus
[02:02] <|3lack|ce> ok, that hurt :P
[02:02] <welp> theine, ??
[02:02] <CriminalMacabre> how can I see the module that my soundcard needs?
[02:02] <|3lack|ce> theine: on firefox - went to one site and it never loaded, went to another and got slapped all the way back to login.
[02:02] <theine> nevermind
[02:02] <|3lack|ce> theine: trying ephiphany now.
[02:02] <ookami> how do i delete a folder from a termainal?
[02:03] <welp> is using ubuntu for 64bit faster than ubuntu for 32bit?
[02:03] <paulproteus> welp: I get the feeling it'd be faster in 32-bit mode, actually.
[02:03] <ookami> i want to delete .wine folder. how would i accomplish this?
[02:03] <welp> paulproteus, why?
[02:03] <paulproteus> ookami: In a terminal, do:
[02:03] <paulproteus> cd $HOME
[02:03] <paulproteus> rm -rf .wine
[02:03] <theine> |3lack|ce, try fiefox again too after it has been restarted
[02:03] <holycow> welp,  i didn't notice an overall increase in terms of feel
[02:03] <|3lack|ce> theine ok, ephiphany is behaving - gonna try to reinstall flash and eliminate either it or the other one.
[02:03] <|3lack|ce> theine: k. can do.
[02:04] <paulproteus> ookami: *OR* enable hidden files in Nautilus, and just move it to trash, then empty trash.
[02:04] <holycow> welp, there will be real increases for tasks that can use the 64 bit headroom, such as 3d rendering and so forth provided they are programed to do so
[02:04] <theine> |3lack|ce, how did you install flash by the way?
[02:04] <|3lack|ce> theine: firefox crashed miserably yet again. didn't knock me all the way to login this time though.
[02:04] <ookami> enable hidden files? ive been wondering abuot that!
[02:04] <|3lack|ce> theine: clicked on the 'click here to install' at the top of FF.
[02:04] <paulproteus> I think it's in the View menu.
[02:04] <welp> holycow, paulproteusm, so the only point in 64bitness is the support for 64bit filenames as opposed to 32bit filenames?
[02:04] <theine> |3lack|ce, and you're using i386?
[02:04] <welp> apart from what holycow just said
[02:04] <|3lack|ce> theine: yep.
[02:05] <theine> |3lack|ce, ok
[02:05] <paulproteus> welp: "64-bit filenames"?
[02:05] <holycow> heh
[02:05] <holycow> 64 bit file names
[02:05] <welp> paulproteus, wha...
[02:05] <holycow> thats funny
[02:05] <Corin_777> paulproteus, i didnt understand....
[02:05] <holycow> welp, this isn't dos dude
[02:05] <holycow> its support for 64 bit tasks
[02:05] <theine> |3lack|ce, it's strange that firefox is still crashing
[02:05] <welp> yeah but....
[02:05] <ookami> yikes! thats a lot of stuff in that folder :) but thanks! now i can get a better understanding of the file system!
[02:05] <bla|patrick> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo?highlight=%28azureus%29 <--- which universe and multiverse must be there
[02:05] <bla|patrick> cant find any hint in repos thats connected to azureus
[02:05] <welp> i though something strange was going to happen in 2038
[02:05] <|3lack|ce> theine: very. there's a new version of FF out effective yesterday though - considering updating but don't know how to manually install it -
[02:05] <welp> or something
[02:06] <holycow> what does that haveto do with 64 bit?
[02:06] <welp> something to do with the unix time system
[02:06] <theine> |3lack|ce, by the way, Shockwave Flash and Futuresplash Player are really one and the same plugin
[02:06] <|3lack|ce> theine: and can't get thunderbird at all :P
[02:06] <Corin_777> paulproteus, will you help? :)
[02:06] <holycow> welp thats a specific issue that has nothing to do with 64 bit support :)
[02:06] <theine> |3lack|ce, thunderbird doesn't work either??
[02:06] <|3lack|ce> theine: k. thanks on that - and I'll keep that in mind. annoying really since one of my games sites is flash-dependent :/
[02:06] <holycow> your like way offtopic
[02:06] <welp> holycow, ohhh....
[02:06] <|3lack|ce> theine: nope - couldn't ever get it to install. kept crashing in apt.
[02:06] <welp> me?
[02:07] <holycow> explaining the difference is probably beyond irc at this point, go use google
[02:07] <welp> oh well....
[02:07] <|3lack|ce> theine: gonna try it from synaptic later.
[02:07] <theine> |3lack|ce, what did you do? sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird ?
[02:08] <|3lack|ce> theine: nope. install throws you straight into aptitude on firstboot - installed from there.
[02:08] <theine> |3lack|ce, that's news to me...
[02:08] <welp> what's the latest ubuntu?
[02:08] <welp> breezy badger?
[02:08] <senectus> so where do we hide the doco on the ubuntu "server" install?
[02:08] <theine> welp, 5.10
[02:09] <|3lack|ce> theine: happened on all 5 of my hoary cd's. can't get a clean install from any of 'em and pay hell trying to get kernel on (takes 3 tries).
[02:09] <senectus> Welp, aka Breezy
[02:09] <welp> okies
[02:09] <theine> |3lack|ce, so what kind of error messages do you get when trying a clean install?
[02:09] <holycow> looks like its time to repackage xscreensavers-data package and get rid of 99% of the crappy screen savers :)
[02:10] <holycow> hehe
[02:10] <orbx> can anyone suggest a good C++ compiler?
[02:10] <|3lack|ce> theine: redscreen at kernel attempt - then I go back to 'install base system'. repeat about 2 or 3 times and the kernel will finally install.
[02:10] <Riddell> orbx: g++
[02:10] <|3lack|ce> theine: then, after everything's done and it's setup for firstboot
[02:10] <mifritscher> hi
[02:10] <barongas> holycow, there's nothing wrong with 99% of the bad screensavers!
[02:10] <orbx> Riddell: Where can i download g++ from?
[02:11] <|3lack|ce> theine: I get 'there were errors in the installation - I will now launch aptitude. If you don't fix it from here, you'll have to fix it manually later.'
[02:11] <|3lack|ce> theine: then I get aptitude.
[02:11] <Riddell> orbx: the ubuntu archives
[02:11] <mifritscher> I'm installing ubuntu on a failry slow machine (233 Mhz, 256 MB ram)
[02:11] <theine> |3lack|ce, please open up a terminal and type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[02:11] <barongas> orbx, sudo apt-get install g++
[02:11] <|3lack|ce> theine: k. sec.
[02:11] <orbx> Riddell: thank you
[02:11] <mifritscher> I have partitioned the HDDs and then entered Install the base system
[02:12] <mifritscher> but a minute later I come back to the main installer menu
[02:12] <dell500> if something isn't responding in console, how do  you kill it?
[02:12] <mustard5> mifritscher, I've seen ubuntu installed on lower spec machines
[02:12] <|3lack|ce> theine: 33% [Release gpgv 1877] Trace/breakpoint trap
[02:12] <mifritscher> yes
[02:12] <theine> |3lack|ce, what the?
[02:12] <mifritscher> that's why I'm wondering
[02:12] <|3lack|ce> theine: that's what came back. weird eh?
[02:12] <mifritscher> I'm installing it on vmware btw
[02:12] <orbx> barongas: whats 'sudo apt-get install g++'
[02:13] <theine> |3lack|ce, indeed
[02:13] <mustard5> mifritscher, ah ok..I have no idea about vmware :)
[02:13] <theine> |3lack|ce, try just "sudo apt-get update"
[02:13] <|3lack|ce> theine: I was expecting a file update or something - and an install attempt. that's just odd. k. sec.
[02:13] <mifritscher> but it worked on vmware an another machine
[02:13] <Siph0n> lol its always a coincidence... someone is always asking a question i have the same question to :)
[02:13] <theine> |3lack|ce, you'll probably get the same error again, but just to be sure
[02:13] <|3lack|ce> theine: 0% [Working] Trace/breakpoint trap
[02:13] <Siph0n> my firefox kept crashing too cause of flash :)
[02:13] <mifritscher> I've the problem that a few entries of the menu are scrambled, too
[02:14] <|3lack|ce> theine: that's from root terminal btw. no sudo necessary
[02:14] <Siph0n> just fixed it through synaptic tho...
[02:14] <mustard5> Siph0n, what was the fix?
[02:14] <theine> |3lack|ce, how did you get a root prompt?
[02:14] <|3lack|ce> siph0n: how?
[02:14] <|3lack|ce> theine: applications > system tools > root terminal.
[02:14] <Siph0n> lol it just crashed again :(
[02:15] <orbx> Riddell: where in the ubuntu archives do i look for G+
[02:15] <theine> |3lack|ce, ok, fine
[02:15] <Seveas> orbx, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:15] <|3lack|ce> theine: amazing what we noobs can come up with, ain't it?
[02:15] <theine> |3lack|ce, well, the first thing you should try to fix is definitely the package manager
[02:15] <Siph0n> i searched for flash, and clicked libswfdec0.3
[02:15] <theine> |3lack|ce, yes, very impressive
[02:15] <|3lack|ce> theine: k. how?
[02:16] <orbx> Seveas: im new to linux whats does the command do and where do i put it?
[02:16] <mustard5> Siph0n, are you using and intel vid card?
[02:16] <theine> |3lack|ce, google for the error message you get from "apt-get update"
[02:16] <mustard5> Siph0n, in particular the Intel 855GM
[02:16] <theine> |3lack|ce, that's how i would get started...
[02:16] <|3lack|ce> theine: btw I'm running nvidia vidcard - but have nvidia-glx installed.  k. I'll google it.
[02:16] <Siph0n> the vid card is a GeForce 5900XT
[02:17] <mustard5> Siph0n, hmmm k
[02:17] <|3lack|ce> theine: whups, no help there - got back "Your search -  33% [Release gpgv 1877] Trace/breakpoint trap - did not match any documents."
[02:18] <theine> |3lack|ce, I'd leave out 33% [...] 
[02:18] <mustard5> Siph0n, you've done this command too ? sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1
[02:18] <theine> |3lack|ce, try "ping www.google.com" from the root terminal
[02:19] <|3lack|ce> theine: did - just put in Release gpgv 1877 - got back a page in russian, and a log of some emails at hobart group - nothing pertaining to th eerror there.
[02:19] <theine> |3lack|ce, I didn't get any helpful results either...
[02:19] <|3lack|ce> theine: pinging just fine and dandy.
[02:20] <theine> |3lack|ce, then type "apt-setup"
[02:20] <|3lack|ce> theine: k. sec.
[02:20] <|3lack|ce> theine: k. doing it now.
[02:21] <|3lack|ce> theine: ok this is odd. I got back 'CD rom contains a non-ubuntu cd' - but it's the original ubuntu cd I installed from....
[02:22] <theine> |3lack|ce, can you let apt-setup ignore this and go on?
[02:22] <|3lack|ce> theine: now it's asking me to choose a source - got an ftp or http I can give it?
[02:22] <theine> |3lack|ce, choose http
[02:22] <|3lack|ce> theine: failed to access the ubuntu archive.
[02:22] <theine> |3lack|ce, that's no good
[02:22] <|3lack|ce> theine: asking for a different source
[02:22] <egoplastiek> just a small question about webmin: i can't see the modules after resolving a major problem with webmin after an ubuntu-upgrade...
[02:22] <|3lack|ce> theine: yah, tell me about it. gonna try ftp next
[02:23] <theine> |3lack|ce, try ftp then
[02:23] <bone_idol> where can i download a pdf of the ubuntu 5.10 starter guidee ??
[02:23] <|3lack|ce> theine: getting something off ftp.
[02:23] <|3lack|ce> theine: Grrrr. same. it hit a couple things, then 'failed to access the ubuntu archive' again.
[02:23] <_jason> !starterguide
[02:23] <ubotu> _jason: What?
[02:23] <bone_idol> :-(
[02:24] <_jason> someone should make that :P let's see if we can find one
[02:24] <theine> |3lack|ce, can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin.com?
[02:24] <theine> |3lack|ce, I think Ubuntu doesn't like your cdrom drive by the way...
[02:24] <|3lack|ce> theine: how do I view sources.list? I'm in the right directory.
[02:25] <|3lack|ce> theine: it liked the cd/rw even less... both atapi, I don't know why it doesn't.
[02:25] <mustard5> |3lack|ce, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:25] <theine> |3lack|ce, infinitely many choices... try "less /etc/apt/sources.list"
[02:25] <|3lack|ce> theine: nothing in sources.list other than things commented.
[02:26] <Siph0n> oops sorry was away... didnt do that sudo ln -s /usr ....... command
[02:26] <|3lack|ce> theine: commented == things with two #'s by them, or one # by them, or both?
[02:26] <theine> |3lack|ce, both
[02:27] <theine> |3lack|ce, can you join #flood please ?
[02:27] <|3lack|ce> theine: heading there now.
[02:28] <theine> |3lack|ce, try this one
[02:28] <smergler2> hey guys i just installed hoary on my laptop and it wont find my video drivers.. any advice
[02:28] <_jason> bone_idol, I don't know if there is one, is there a particular reason you need a pdf?
[02:28] <mustard5> Siph0n, its to do with setting up sound, but you never know..it might be an issue
[02:28] <bone_idol> _jason: I'm giving aC[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[Cway preinstalled ubuntu pc
[02:29] <bone_idol> and i wnat to prsss some docs in peoples hands
[02:29] <bone_idol> oops
[02:29] <Siph0n> k, just did it :)
[02:29] <_jason> bone_idol, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[02:29] <Siph0n> having a problem playing mp3s... think thats the reason?
[02:29] <dell500> i just did sudo chown -R dell500:dell500 /media/raid0/ but it still doesn't give me permission  to write these files
[02:29] <_jason> bone_idol, that's one one web page which should print out ok
[02:29] <mustard5> possibly
[02:29] <mustard5> Siph0n, possibly
[02:29] <darksoul> how do i run starcraft on wine
[02:30] <darksoul> !starcraft
[02:30] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, darksoul
[02:30] <lastnode> darksoul, does it use directx?
[02:30] <mustard5> Siph0n, perhaps its a sound configuration issue
[02:30] <darksoul> lastnode: yea i think, but i just need to know how to get past the cd athurication
[02:30] <Siph0n> nope :( still says i dont have the right plugin
[02:30] <lastnode> darksoul, wine doesnt do directx afaik
[02:31] <darksoul> lastnode: i have gotten it to work before, i just need to know how to get past cd athurication on start
[02:31] <mustard5> Siph0n, what did you install from synaptic?
[02:31] <lastnode> darksoul, mm no idea then mate
[02:31] <mustard5> Siph0n, flashplugin-nonfree ?
[02:33] <linux_dude> how can i upgrade to breezy
[02:33] <Siph0n> no.... can i use apt-get for that?
[02:33] <_jason> ubotu, tell linux_dude about breezy
[02:34] <Corin> can someone help me
[02:34] <b_e_n_z> linux_dude, edit /etc/apt/sources.list to use the breezy repositories; apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:34] <Corin> my /var/www/sam/ folder is showing in it my entire pc
[02:34] <Corin> the files in /var/www/sam/home/corin/ are the same that i created in /home/corin/ ....
[02:34] <Corin> what has happened???
[02:34] <ookami> i got a problem........ when i do:gedit ~/.wine/configthe file comes back blank..... nothing in there. im trying to set up DVD decryptor.
[02:35] <orbx> can someone give me a link to where i can get g++
[02:35] <Corin> ???
[02:35] <Amaranth> ookami: that means that file doesn't exist
[02:35] <xerxas> orbx: : apt-get install g++ ?
[02:35] <ptlo> Corin, in terminal, type: ls -l /var/www | grep sam and check if the file is a symbolic link to /   (it will show up like: sam -> / )
[02:35] <smergler2> hey guys i just installed hoary on my laptop and it wont find my video drivers.. any advice
[02:36] <Seveas> smergler2, which card/
[02:36] <orbx> xerxas: im new to linux what does that do?
[02:36] <ookami> Amaranth, thats what i was thinking. Is that normal?
[02:36] <Siph0n> apt-get could not find flashplugin-nonfree
[02:36] <MolloS> i need to login as root (linux-noob) and i have Ubuntu 5.10, can anyone help me?
[02:36] <mustard5> Siph0n, yep, but probably need multiverse enabled
[02:36] <smergler2> Seveas: its the generic one that came with my dell laptop
[02:36] <mustard5> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[02:36] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: (Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 156 kB
[02:36] <Siph0n> how i enable that?
[02:36] <Amaranth> ookami: it is if that's not the name of the file
[02:36] <Amaranth> ookami: or if you don't have wine installed
[02:36] <LathropWells> Hi Seveas :)
[02:36] <Seveas> Siph0n, enable multiverse
[02:36] <orbx> what do i do with  'apt-get install g++'
[02:37] <Corin> ptlo, http://86.136.46.98/pastebin/view.php?id=7    thats what i did...
[02:37] <Corin> ?
[02:37] <anthony4286> did you upgrade?
[02:37] <xerxas> orbx: it installs g++
[02:37] <orbx> where do i type it
[02:37] <nalioth_zZz> cafuego: several hfs+ partitions as a matter of fact
[02:37] <ptlo> orbx, that instals the software package 'g++', which is what you want. this is a command-line usage, if you prefer gui, go to System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[02:37] <Seveas> !tell Siph0n about sources
[02:37] <xerxas> orbx: if you're a newbie use synaptic package manager
[02:37] <ookami> Amaranth, i do have it installed. i was just now running dvd decryptor, but its saying no drives detected.
[02:37] <holycow> does anyone know where xscreensaver stores the screensaver list?  i can remove individual ones but then they become greyed out which is not really helpfull, they should dissapear entirely from the list ... ?
[02:37] <it> if I want to download from " Seveas' Breezy packages v5.10
[02:37] <it> Powered By Yars" .. what do I need to do?
[02:37] <smergler2> Seveas: anything?
[02:37] <xerxas> orbx: why do you need g++ ?
[02:37] <Seveas> it, send me a msg :)
[02:37] <ookami> amaranth, so im going over all the steps, and the one i skiped was editing the conf because......... well, its just not there.
[02:38] <LathropWells> Is there an open source alternative plugin for .ram files?
[02:38] <ptlo> orbx, ubuntu has thousantds of software packages prepared for your system, you can search/browse/install/uninstall them via synaptic. almost everything you want can be already found there (so if you want to install new software, you should check there first, instead of compiling it yourself)
[02:38] <Amaranth> ookami: run wincfg
[02:38] <Amaranth> err
[02:38] <Seveas> smergler2, lspci output on the pastebin please
[02:38] <Amaranth> winecfg
[02:38] <smergler2> you want me to send you a msg i assume right?
[02:38] <orbx> xerxas: i need g++ to program c++
[02:38] <ookami> amaranth, done. i see wine configuration panel.......
[02:38] <ptlo> Corin, well, that's strange. can you show me the output of: mount
[02:38] <it> Seveas: like this? :)
[02:38] <Seveas> smergler2, no, on the pastebin
[02:38] <mustard5> Siph0n, you need to edit your sources.list did you get a link to the sources from ubotu?
[02:38] <Seveas> !pastebin
[02:39] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:39] <Corin> ptlo, i just write "mount"?
[02:39] <ptlo> Corin, yes. that will display the mounted filesystems
[02:39] <LathropWells> Cedega is much easier to configure "Point2Play" - $5 pm isn't very much.
[02:39] <Amaranth> ookami: have fun
[02:39] <casola> ciao
[02:39] <Siph0n> yup
[02:39] <Amaranth> ookami: it should be easy enough to figure out on your own
[02:39] <Amaranth> ookami: but i've never run it so...
[02:39] <ookami> ah! it should be cdrom0 not cdrom.
[02:39] <Corin> ptlo, http://86.136.46.98/pastebin/view.php?id=8
[02:39] <anthony4286> i dont have any sound
[02:39] <anthony4286> i checked the connections
[02:40] <mustard5> Siph0n, k..well if you have any questions....
[02:40] <Seveas> it, yeah sort of :)
[02:40] <Seveas> see what miracles that does ;)
[02:40] <smergler2> Seveas: sent
[02:40] <orbx> thank you very much xerxas it worked fine
[02:40] <LathropWells> Amaranth - Is there an alternative plugin for .ram files. realplayer just isn't very good
[02:40] <Amaranth> LathropWells: not that i know of
[02:41] <MolloS> does anyone know how to install mp3 support for ubuntu?
[02:41] <Amaranth> LathropWells: but realplayer 10 was excellent when i used it
[02:41] <Amaranth> !mp3
[02:41] <ubotu> well, mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:41] <Corin> ptlo, any ideas?  and do you like my pastebin? :P
[02:41] <Corin> (i havent had time to give it a nice look yet... :P
[02:41] <ptlo> Corin, for some reason, you have mounted your entire system to /var/www/sam directory ... so it shows up in two places. the immediate fix is to do: sudo unmount  /var/www/sam , but if some software has done this setup, it will probably show up again after reboot
[02:41] <Corin> ok
[02:41] <ptlo> CoOL-S, pastebin's nice :) btw can i look at your /etc/fstab ?
[02:41] <gsuveg> Seveas: hi. i whant to get skype.deb from you
[02:41] <Seveas> smergler2, good, put your /etc/X11/xorg.conf there too
[02:41] <ptlo> Corin, astebin's nice :) btw can i look at your /etc/fstab ?
[02:41] <LathropWells> Amaranth - Okay, - jeez with the only player for ram files and money. - you think at least the player would be good. - lol
[02:42] <gsuveg> Seveas: ti works with artsdp ?
[02:42] <Seveas> smergler2, does X start at all?
[02:42] <mustard5> gsuveg, I have another link if seveas's server is down
[02:42] <Seveas> gsuveg, no idea, I don't use it myself
[02:42] <Seveas> mustard5, it's not :)
[02:42] <Corin> ptlo, sudo: unmount: not found
[02:42] <Amaranth> LathropWells: it doesn't cost money
[02:42] <gsuveg> i need this deb :)
[02:42] <mustard5> Seveas, k
[02:42] <mustard5> !skype
[02:42] <ubotu> it has been said that skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:42] <ptlo> Corin: sorry,  umount
[02:43] <LathropWells> Seveas - Thanks You for running server.
[02:43] <Seveas> gsuveg, you can grab it
[02:43] <Steinbeck1> every now and then when i open limewire the computer locks up and i have to restart the computer
[02:43] <gsuveg> Seveas: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/breezy-extras/skype_1.2.0.18-1ubuntu0_i386.deb  403 Forbidden
[02:43] <Steinbeck1> any idea on why that would happen?
[02:44] <smergler2> Seveas: sent and yes.. it just doesnt go full screen
[02:44] <Corin> ptlo, umount: /var/www/sam: device is busy
[02:44] <Seveas> gsuveg, hmm, you should be able to download
[02:44] <xerxas> orbx: great
[02:44] <gsuveg> pardon?
[02:44] <ptlo> Corin, ok then you've got something using it.
[02:44] <xerxas> orbx: apt-get install does the same but through the command line
[02:44] <Corin> ptlo apache2?
[02:45] <ptlo> Corin, this didn't happen by accident, you probably installed/configured some software so it did that ... i'm sorry that i can't provide you with any specific help :(
[02:45] <ptlo> Corin, perhaps, try stopping apache and then unmounting
[02:45] <Corin> ok, dont go though
[02:45] <Corin> how do i stop apache?
[02:46] <Seveas> Corin, sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 stop
[02:46] <jjones> does anyone know of a good alternative to the clock applet in gnome?  whenever i click on the clock to view the calendar, it starts up evolution processes and tries to connect to an exchange server (I guess)
[02:46] <gsuveg> Seveas: im made it myself
[02:46] <orbx> i have installed g++ via the synaptic package manager, but how do i run it?
[02:46] <gsuveg> mustard5: thanks, im rebuild it fom wiki
[02:46] <mustard5> gsuveg, k
[02:47] <smergler2> Seveas: anything?
[02:47] <Corin> ptlo and Seveas, device stil busy...
[02:47] <mustard5> gsuveg, there is a pre-made one at a link on that page though if you feel lazy ;)
[02:47] <gsuveg> Seveas: are you update the skype after every release ?
[02:48] <Corin> ?
[02:48] <gsuveg> mustard5: now works the apt-get :)
[02:48] <gsuveg> im happy
[02:48] <darksoul> were do i install ABIT drivers?
[02:48] <darksoul> (for my motherboard)
[02:48] <ptlo> Corin, to see which processes are accessing /var/www/sam, you can use: sudo fuser -m /var/www/sam
[02:48] <mustard5> gsuveg, thats the main thing
[02:49] <ptlo> Corin, that should list process id's of processes using it. then you can do: ps auxw | grep <pid_from_the_list> to see what's going on
[02:49] <zms> anybody using udev with LVM?
[02:49] <gsuveg> mustard5: but my deb is finished too :)
[02:49] <Seveas> gsuveg, yes
[02:50] <gsuveg> Seveas: then im use your source then
[02:50] <Corin> ptlo, http://pastebin.com/431638
[02:50] <Corin> ptlo, quite a lot...
[02:51] <ptlo> Corin, oh, that's the list that's using / (root fs) also .... it won't be of much help :(
[02:51] <gsuveg> core dump :(
[02:51] <orbx> i have installed g++ via the synaptic package manager, but how do i run
[02:51] <ptlo> orbx: type: g++
[02:52] <smergler2> Seveas: hello?
[02:52] <ptlo> orbx, what exactly do you need? programming environment, installing a third-party package from source, or something else?
[02:52] <orbx> ptlo: type g++ where, the terminal?
[02:52] <ptlo> orbx, yes.
[02:52] <Corin_777> ptlo, ?
[02:52] <zms> anybody using udev with LVM?
[02:52] <orbx> ptlo: i need a C++ compiler
[02:52] <ptlo> orbx, that will invoke the command-line C++ compiler
[02:52] <gsuveg> Seveas: artsdsp -m skype and if i call it drop a core dump
[02:53] <orbx> ptlo: i typed and it said 'no input files'
[02:53] <ptlo> Corin_777, dunno, sorry, i'm out of ideas :(
[02:53] <Corin_777> :o
[02:53] <Corin_777> could i kill all those processes?
[02:53] <Corin_777> and how?
[02:53] <ptlo> orbx: to compile some c++ source, use this: g++ -o program_name program_source.cpp
[02:54] <orbx> ptlo: ok i will go test out
[02:54] <ptlo> Corin_777, no, you don't want to kill these, it's the entire system (see, the init process (1) is also in the list). your best bet is to locate why sam is mounted, prevent it from happening after reboot, and then rebooting the machine
[02:54] <Corin_777> ptlo, can i just delete the "sam" folder?
[02:54] <darksoul> how do i get my motherboards drivers for linux? *abit*
[02:55] <ptlo> Corin_777, not while it's still mounted. if you touch anything inside, you'll delete the original fiels on / also, and that's certainly not w hat you want
[02:55] <ptlo> Corin_777, is /var/www/sam mentioned in your /etc/fstab?
[02:55] <Corin_777> im not sure...
[02:55] <Corin_777> i'll check when its rebooted
[02:55] <ptlo> Corin_777: grep sam /etc/fstab
[02:56] <Corin_777> grep?
[02:56] <orbx> ptlo: when i type that i get the same error message 'no input files'
[02:57] <ptlo> orbx, well, did you specify the name of the source file (instead of "program_source.cpp" in the example)?
[02:58] <orbx> ptlo: yes i did, do you have to display the full DIR and if so can you give me another example please
[02:59] <void^> orbx, type: echo -ne "#include <iostream>\nint main() { std::cout << \"Hello\"; }\n" > tfile.cpp && g++ tfile.cpp && ./a.out
[03:00] <dtamas> [off] How can I export all of mail form gmail?
[03:00] <smergler2> Seveas: the thing is posted.. doyou have any ideas
[03:01] <darksoul> im using ABIT motherboard, were do i get the drivers?
[03:01] <void^> what drivers? why drivers?
[03:01] <orbx> void^: nothing happended.
[03:01] <darksoul> i need em so i can view my system info temp/etc/fan speeds..the like
[03:01] <ptlo> orbx, http://rafb.net/paste/results/exawg450.html
[03:02] <darksoul> !abit
[03:02] <ubotu> darksoul: Are you smoking crack?
[03:02] <darksoul> !nivida
[03:02] <ubotu> darksoul: No idea
[03:02] <MarceloRedes> Algum brasileiro ?
[03:02] <void^> darksoul, either use acpi or lm_sensors or the like
[03:02] <darksoul> void: were do i get them?
[03:02] <void^> might need lm_sensors to view fan speeds and toys like that
[03:02] <MarceloRedes> preciso de ajuda para instalar o Ubuntu
[03:02] <rambo3> is there something wrong with crack now
[03:02] <darksoul> void: can i change the fan speeds? lol..
[03:03] <ptlo> Corin_777, grep <pattern> <file> ...  checks for pattern in the file, and displays the lines in which it's found
[03:03] <void^> no.
[03:03] <darksoul> ,,,,,
[03:03] <orbx> ptlo: what is the link for?
[03:03] <MarceloRedes> Brazilian ?
[03:03] <void^> i'm not aware of a way to change fan speeds (not that anyone would need such a feature)
[03:03] <darksoul> void: were do i get them thou
[03:03] <darksoul> void: i know lol...but were do i get the programs
[03:03] <void^> should be available via apt-get
[03:04] <darksoul> void: what one sould i get?
[03:04] <void^> package called lm-sensors in debian
[03:04] <darksoul> void: what ones better for viewing system info
[03:04] <void^> acpi is in your kernel, if it's enabled. see /proc/acpi/*
[03:05] <void^> or install acpi package and do acpi -V
[03:05] <Corin_777> ptlo, fstab is this: http://86.136.46.98/pastebin/view.php?id=9
[03:05] <darksoul> void: it says its installed...but i dont see it..what do i type in to run it =/
[03:05] <ptlo> orbx, it's an example of g++ invocation (essentially what void^ said, just in a few lines)
[03:05] <ptlo> Corin_777, there, in the last line, is your problem
[03:06] <mustard5> Siph0n, you had any success with getting that package?
[03:06] <orbx> ptlo: i know but is there a quick test i can run to see if g++ is actually working
[03:06] <Corin_777> ptlo, ok, what should i change?
[03:06] <ptlo> orbx, that's the quick test :)
[03:06] <orbx> ptlo: i see
[03:06] <rambo3> i gave up on acpi , removed it from my debian laptop.
[03:06] <ddaa> Hey, anybody can hint me at a vaguely sane way to get gutenprint 5.0.0-rc1 up and running on breezy?
[03:07] <SirKillalot> can I change the channel of volume my keyboard shortcut changes?
[03:07] <ddaa> (I need it to get a proper driver for an Epson stylus cx3650)
[03:07] <Corin_777> ptlo, using my pastebin, can you show me what fstab SHOULD look like for me?
[03:07] <Corin_777> :)
[03:07] <darksoul> void: what command do i need to type in terminal
[03:07] <ptlo> Corin_777, well, if you delete that last line, and reboot, it won't be mounted on next reboot. but if some program put it there, it may fail/crash or add it again :)
[03:07] <SirKillalot> darksoul, what??
[03:07] <SirKillalot> darksoul, ah understood
[03:07] <ptlo> Corin_777, the line with LABEL=/ in the beginning is suspicious to me
[03:08] <Corin_777> ok
[03:08] <Corin_777> brb
[03:08] <darksoul> SirKillalot: what do i type in terminal to run sensord
[03:09] <Siph0n> sorry nope, no success... i tryed the new sources.list, and had issues.. i have to get to class tho :(
[03:09] <Siph0n> ill try again later, or during class :)
[03:09] <SirKillalot> darksoul, I guess "sensord"
[03:09] <BluesRocker> I have problem with artsd with some KDE apps, need help
[03:09] <darksoul> SirKillalot i typed that in..nothing happened
[03:10] <BluesRocker> !artsd
[03:10] <ubotu> BluesRocker: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:10] <frogzoo> ptlo: you do know LABEL=/ in fstab is legit, n'est ce pas?
[03:10] <darksoul> SirKillalot: all i want to do is see fan speeds and temp
[03:10] <orbx> ptlo: when i typed it nothing happend, just skipped to the next line
[03:11] <gsuveg> Seveas: thanks a lot.
[03:11] <gsuveg> bye
[03:11] <ptlo> frogzoo, of course. corin's problem is that something mounted root partiion to another place (so he now has /dev/hda1 mounted on two places), and the LABEL=/ string is located in the "offending" line, that's what i was referring to
[03:11] <darksoul> anyone know how to moniter your cpu temp and fan speeds, etc?
[03:11] <frogzoo> ptlo: sure, cool, np
[03:11] <ptlo> frogzoo, if you h ave any knowledge of what in ubuntu would remount root fs, please share it with us (i don't know what's happening here)
[03:12] <frogzoo> ptlo: Corin_777 show me the fstab...
[03:12] <LathropWells> darksoul - void gave that info earlier - my desktop had this  sudo cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/*
[03:12] <ptlo> frogzoo, http://86.136.46.98/pastebin/view.php?id=9
[03:13] <darksoul> LathropWells: i know he gave the info, i downloaded,but how do i use the program
[03:13] <jino> hi all
[03:13] <jino> how can i upgrade to breezy ?
[03:13] <jino> plz help
[03:13] <void^> darksoul, if you're talking about acpi, you need no program. navigate to /proc/acpi and look at the files there.
[03:13] <rambo3> arent there gdesklets for monitoring such stuff?
[03:13] <dabaR_> ubotu: tell jino about breezy
[03:13] <Corin_777> ptlo, youre a genius
[03:14] <Corin_777> its sorted
[03:14] <raphink> change your repos and run dist-upgrade jino
[03:14] <darksoul> void: im talking about that sensors
[03:14] <LathropWells> darksoul - i dunno - i come here and you guys insist on teaching me something. - guess #windows would be better for sleeping. eh?
[03:14] <Corin_777> possible because i uninstalled quota and quotatool before rebooting, but yay!
[03:14] <void^> darksoul, for lm-sensors you run sensors-detect as root to config and sensors to see the readouts
[03:14] <darksoul> LathropWells: hell no windows sucks
[03:14] <Seveas> !tell jino about breezy
[03:14] <Seveas> narf
[03:15] <Seveas> !tell Seveas to start reading
[03:15] <ptlo> Corin_777, np, glad i could help :)
[03:15] <Corin_777> :D
[03:15] <Corin_777> now, back to my original problem...  :P
[03:15] <SirKillalot> darksoul, I type "sensors" for that
[03:15] <Corin_777> is it possible to limit the size of /var/www/sam/ ?
[03:15] <Corin_777> :)
[03:15] <dabaR_> !tell Seveas about talking to himself through the bot
[03:15] <void^> (and there are vartious plugins available for window managers and gkrellm etc)
[03:15] <void^> -t
[03:16] <LathropWells> talking to himself through the bot
[03:16] <LathropWells> oops
[03:16] <frogzoo> ptlo: Corin_777 - mount can get confused if you start mixing volume labels with device names, just btw
[03:16] <dabaR_> LathropWells: do it in private
[03:16] <Corin_777> ok frogzoo
[03:16] <darksoul> void: for /proc/acpi, whats the command i need to run to scan it or whatever..it keeps saying command not found
[03:16] <Corin_777> frogzoo, could you help me limit the size of that directory please?
[03:16] <frogzoo> Corin_777: on the last line?
[03:17] <Corin_777> what last line?
[03:17] <frogzoo> /var/www/sam ?
[03:17] <dabaR_> darksoul: have you tried cat?
[03:17] <darksoul> dabaR: no
[03:17] <Corin_777> i frogzoo, i have fixed the problem, but i want to make it so that /var/www/sam/ can only be a certain size...
[03:17] <void^> darksoul, open a terminal. type cd /proc/acpi. type ls. type cd thermal. type ls. go on on your own.
[03:18] <void^> sorry, thermal_zone, not thermal
[03:18] <frogzoo> Corin_777: the cop out would be to give it its own partition ?
[03:18] <Corin_777> frogzoo, how?  im quite new to linux, even newer to command-line
[03:20] <frogzoo> Corin_777: with an unformatted disk, you can use fdisk to create & delete disk partitions - but once you've installed, you're a bit restricted as to what's possible - do a "sudo fdisk -l" & it will show you current disk layout
[03:21] <Corin_777> frogzoo, http://86.136.46.98/pastebin/view.php?id=10
[03:22] <Seveas> return of the spam freaks
[03:23] <IcemanV9> any1 - what's the command to list all software installed on my box??
[03:23] <Seveas> IcemanV9, dpkg -l
[03:24] <Corin_777> frogzoo, ???
[03:24] <frogzoo> Corin_777: you've got 19.5 gigs allocated to /, & 500meg to swap - how customised is your install I'm wondering?
[03:24] <IcemanV9> awesome! thanks, Seveas
[03:24] <Corin_777> frogzoo, i just installed it default...
[03:25] <Corin_777> i formatted the HDD, then installed ubuntu on it
[03:25] <frogzoo> Corin_777: usually you'd only allocate say a couple gig to /, then have a /usr about 15gig, and maybe a couple for /var, couple for /home + swap
[03:26] <orbx> ptlo: i have done that test and it came up with a error message is that good or bad ?
[03:26] <frogzoo> Corin_777: the thing is, fdisk lets you plan the disk allocation to your file systems, but once the OS is installed, it's a bit difficult to go back & start again
[03:26] <Corin_777> ok
[03:26] <Corin_777> so is there a way to allocate a quota without partitions?
[03:27] <LathropWells> Is there a good tar script for Ubuntu?   A way to boot from a copied CD image?
[03:27] <frogzoo> Corin_777: sure, but it uses CPU - it's better if you can preallocate it, but guess you can use quotas & should be ok
[03:27] <Corin_777> frogzoo, will you help me set it up?
[03:28] <ptlo> orbx, that's bad. please paste the error message (see the topic for paste address)
[03:28] <frogzoo> Corin_777: well bear with me, I haven't done this before either
[03:28] <Corin_777> ok frogzoo
[03:28] <Corin_777> at least you have the advantage of not being dumb
[03:28] <Corin_777> :P
[03:28] <nalioth> Corin_777: being dumb is correctable
[03:28] <Corin_777> nalioth, quit it lol
[03:29] <dpupp> im having some major issues getting wine working right and im in need of some help on a step by step basis. could someone assist me please? i just removed everything wine to start clean.
[03:29] <Silencer> I have a problem :(
[03:29] <Silencer> W: GPG error: http://cs.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[03:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Silencer about gpgerr
[03:30] <nalioth> Silencer: check your priv msgs, please
[03:30] <LathropWells>   dpupp - we aren't very good with wine here best advice is at frankscorner.org or #wine #cedega here on freenode
[03:30] <dpupp> ah thanks
[03:30] <rambo3> dpupp -> http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html
[03:30] <Silencer> nalioth, thx too much
[03:32] <mustard5> :)
[03:32] <_native_> its early
[03:32] <nathanj> anyone know why icant access the font i copy into gnome fonts:////?
[03:33] <dpupp> rambo, it provides no instructions on installing :( i dont mean to sound dumb, im just really new to this.
[03:34] <nathanj> mustard5: oh please this is harder than i thoigh its a manual font i downloaded off the internet
[03:34] <nathanj> not a deb
[03:34] <rambo3> well you donload : wine-config-sidenet-1.9.0.tgz , then unpack it  and read readme file. download dcom and other stiff that is says , and install ot
[03:34] <welp> does wine work well in ubuntu?
[03:34] <rambo3> yes
[03:35] <mustard5> nathan_, in the wiki I can see a couple of different ways to install fonts
[03:35] <nathanj> im running cedega-i386 under amd64 perfectly with no chroot :)
[03:35] <nathanj> mustard5: havin look now
[03:35] <mustard5> nathan_, one is the way you are doing it..I assume dragging and dropping the font into nautilus
[03:35] <mustard5> nathan_, I'll get the link
[03:36] <mustard5> nathanj, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[03:36] <nathanj> yeah
[03:36] <nathanj> but it aint work ing :P
[03:36] <frogzoo> Corin_777: did you delete that last line in fstab, with the LABEL=/ ???
[03:36] <Corin_777> yes
[03:36] <mustard5> nathanj, I suppose you could try the other manual install options :)
[03:36] <nalioth> nathanj: install any truetype fonts in ~/.fonts
[03:37] <mustard5> nathan_, but perhaps if one fails they all fail..who knows
[03:37] <nathanj> this is a pcf file
[03:37] <dpupp> how do i search for a file in ubuntu? i want to see where a conf file went.
[03:37] <nathanj> linux spec font gile
[03:37] <nathanj> dpupp: locate <filename>
[03:37] <dpupp> k
[03:37] <nathanj> dpupp: but do updatedb before ya start searching :)
[03:38] <orbx> ptlo: im sorry i have been away, the error message was 'unexpected )
[03:38] <frogzoo> Corin_777: right, you need to edit the root mount to look like this "/dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,usrquota,errors=remount-ro 0       1"
[03:38] <orbx> ptlo: it was a C++ error message so does that mean it worked?
[03:39] <ptlo> orbx, ah, well, yeah :)
[03:39] <nathanj> any more ideas?
[03:39] <Corin_777> frogzoo, edit whatnow? how?
[03:40] <frogzoo> Corin_777: install the quota tool packages "quota" and "quotatool"
[03:40] <mustard5> nathanj, I would ask that pcf question again with the nick of the person you wanted to address it to
[03:40] <Corin_777> ok
[03:40] <mustard5> nathanj, I can tell you he is busy in another channel ;)
[03:40] <orbx> ptlo: ok cool, so now how do i compile a specific file?
[03:41] <ptlo> orbx, well, in the paste i gave you link to, you have an example line g++ -o hello hello.cpp <- that's it
[03:41] <ptlo> just follow that pattern
[03:41] <mustard5> nathanj, using the nick will set off the notification
[03:41] <orbx> ptlo: ok so i dont have to specify the root '\home\cpp
[03:42] <ptlo> orbx, no if the file is in the current directory
[03:42] <BuFF> how could i view .*chm files ?
[03:42] <ptlo> orbx,btw in linux, paths are written with '/' as the path separator: so that's /home/cpp/something , not \home\cpp
[03:42] <orbx> ok
[03:42] <Corin_777> frogzoo, installed those...
[03:43] <BuFF> what program should i use ?
[03:43] <orbx> ptlo: sorry what do you mean the 'current directory'
[03:43] <ptlo> orbx, the directory that you're "in" at the moment of writing the command line (all of this is regarding the command line usage, in terminal...)
[03:44] <ptlo> orbx: you can see in which current directory you're in by issuing command: pwd (print workign directory)
[03:44] <orbx> ah
[03:44] <orbx> thank you
[03:44] <frogzoo> Corin_777: damn, looks like you can only set quotas on file systems anyway, not on just directories
[03:44] <Corin_777> :o
[03:45] <frogzoo> Corin_777: but we can still set an upper limit for user sam if you like?
[03:45] <Corin_777> yeah
[03:45] <MarcN> BuFF: Off hand I don't know, but try http://www.google.com/linux
[03:45] <frogzoo> Corin_777: well, you need to remount / - I'd just reboot
[03:46] <Corin_777> frogzoo, cant at the moment, i'll bbl
[03:46] <Corin_777> thanks
[03:46] <Corin_777> :)
[03:46] <N6REJ> I need some help resizing my partitions
[03:46] <orbx> ptlo: thank you very much ptlo you have been a VERY big help
[03:46] <orbx> ptlo: i dont know how i would have ever worked it all out without you
[03:48] <frogzoo> Corin_777: once you reboot, the only step remaining should be "quotatool -u sam -b SIZEINK /', then "quota sam" just to check
[03:48] <Corin_777> ok
[03:48] <Corin_777> thanks
[03:48] <Corin_777> i'll bbl
[03:48] <Corin_777> @:D
[03:48] <Corin_777> :D
[03:48] <frogzoo> Corin_777: well good luck, I'm gonna have to head
[03:48] <frogzoo> :)
[03:49] <Corin_777> head?
[03:49] <Corin_777> bed?
[03:49] <frogzoo> yeh, that
[03:49] <nathanj> nalioth: what about a pcf file?
[03:50] <nalioth> nathanj: what about a pcf file?
[03:50] <nathanj> nalioth: how do i instakll one of em?
[03:51] <orbx> ptlo: sorry one more thing, completely unrelared to C++ but
[03:51] <orbx> ptlo: do you know of a good FTP client?
[03:51] <mustard5> nalioth, a font install
[03:51] <nalioth> nathanj: i have no idea what a pcf is
[03:51] <nathanj> linux font file
[03:52] <AMDXP> anyone have any issues with the hoary to breezy upgrade?
[03:53] <MarcN> AMDXP: worked fine for me.  Follow the instructions in the wiki.
[03:53] <mustard5> AMDXP, you read the guide to upgrading from the wiki?  (no issues for me)
[03:53] <AMDXP> i am doing that now
[03:53] <AMDXP> i had hardware issues with the install freezing at 52%
[03:54] <AMDXP> it was a bad memory stick i had 3 sticks of 256M SD ram
[03:54] <MarcN> AMDXP: on a laptop?  Try turning off acpi.  It may be getting too hot.
[03:54] <AMDXP> no desktop
[03:54] <mustard5> AMDXP, on breezy dist-upgrade?
[03:54] <AMDXP> i took 2 sticks out
[03:54] <nathanj> nalioth: linux font file apparently
[03:54] <MarcN> bad memory is always bad
[03:54] <AMDXP> and the install went fine
[03:54] <AMDXP> i installed hoary with ease
[03:54] <AMDXP> doing the update now
[03:55] <AMDXP> i already have breezy running on another box
[03:55] <nathanj> nalioth: got it :) http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=208703
[03:55] <nalioth> nathanj: i only know about truetype fonts
[03:56] <mustard5> nathanj, you tried the X way?
[03:56] <ptlo> orbx, dunno, try gftp (gui) or lftp (cmdline - that's my favorite, but i prefer command line for many uses :)
[03:57] <orbx> ptlo: ok i got gftp, i will be uploading alot of php files so i thought gui would be more sensible
[03:57] <nathanj> mustard5: nah i just installed the ttf version :)
[03:57] <egoleo> hey
[03:58] <egoleo> i am having StarDict
[03:58] <egoleo> but when i try to search for a word
[03:58] <paulproteus> orbx: If you're doing a lot of work with remote servers, I suggest you try Konqueror.
[03:58] <egoleo> i get this error
[03:58] <paulproteus> You can treat remote filesystems (accessible by FTP or SSH) as if they were local.  Very convenient.
[03:58] <egoleo> so how do i fix it
[03:58] <AMDXP> on my other breezy box however i did have problems with xfce running it wouldnt start
[03:58] <IcemanV9> nathanj:  i am assuming that you already installed msttcorefonts? if not, why not install it. :)
[03:58] <AMDXP> i hope i dont have problems with it this time
[03:59] <mustard5> nathanj, whatever works is good :)
[03:59] <orbx> paulproteus: why will Konqueror help?
[03:59] <AMDXP> can you run gdesklets with xfce4?
[03:59] <egoleo> is says no dic server
[03:59] <nathanj> IcemanV9: yea alrady installed iam currently trying to install profont :)
[03:59] <nosilver4u> i'm trying to use mdadm, but all of a sudden all my /dev/md* devices just dissappeared after a reboot, any ideas?
[03:59] <paulproteus> orbx: It's a bit more sensible of an FTP interface, plus it can do other protocols.
[03:59] <IcemanV9> nathanj:  gotcha. :)
[03:59] <egoleo> and also which program can i use to listen to radio
[03:59] <egoleo> can someone help me out
[03:59] <paulproteus> egoleo: Rhythmbox can listen to web radio.
[03:59] <rambo3> AMDXP you can
[03:59] <AMDXP> paul: cant xmms do that too
[04:00] <egoleo> ok
[04:00] <paulproteus> AMDXP: Beep-media-player > XMMS
[04:00] <nosilver4u> i can see them in /dev/.static/, but why aren't they in the regular location, and how can i get them back?
[04:00] <orbx> paulproteus: so there is a Konqueror ftp client, i thought it was only a web browser
[04:00] <egoleo> i have been trying it
[04:00] <egoleo> but still
[04:00] <paulproteus> orbx: It's also a regular file manager.
[04:00] <AMDXP> ok paul i didnt know =(
[04:00] <paulproteus> AMDXP: We need to run-screaming-away from XMMS.  GTK1 sucks.
[04:00] <paulproteus> AMDXP: No prob. :)
[04:00] <AMDXP> rambo3: sweet!!
[04:00] <egoleo> what abt the StarDict
[04:00] <AMDXP> paul but what about my winamp skins =(
[04:02] <Amaranth> xmms is moving to gtk2
[04:02] <Amaranth> although beep-media-player is already gtk2
[04:03] <nathanj> ahhh all working
[04:03] <nathanj> very nice font :)
[04:04] <IcemanV9> AMDXP:  bmp will accept winamp skins
[04:04] <tim__> Hiya !  Can anyone tell me how to add a monitor resolution to my list ?  I mistakenly forgot to add the extra resolutions when I loaded Ubuntu  :o/
[04:04] <Astxist> heh must be the slow time, I can actually read the text before it scrolls out of view :)
[04:05] <aet> xmms2 will have gtk2 not xmms
[04:06] <AMDXP> Iceman: bmp?
[04:06] <IcemanV9> beep-media-player
[04:06] <AMDXP> ok
[04:06] <AMDXP> i will try it
[04:06] <AMDXP> i wont be using this box for audio though
[04:06] <Ophiocus> is there any way to read what errors the login panel gives you after loggin in?
[04:07] <rob_p> tim__:  As long as your video card supports them, and the correct driver is being used, all you have to do is add them to the xorg.conf file.
[04:07] <AMDXP> Iceman: do you use MPlayer for dvd videos?
[04:07] <Ophiocus> i mean, when i log on login panel accepts login but tells me something about a home/.mdcr not beeing set properly and beeing ignored,
[04:08] <orbx> does anyone know of a gui FTP client other than gFTP
[04:08] <tim__> rob_p:  excellent. I knew there was a way :o)  Now....where is the xorg.conf held ?  And do I need to SUDO to it ?
[04:08] <mustard5> Ophiocus, hmm I have no .mdcr
[04:09] <fct> hi
[04:09] <ptlo> orbx: you should also be able to type: ftp://host/path as location in nautilus, and browse/access ftp server in a normal window - copy/paste and dragging between local and remote folders should work
[04:10] <Ophiocus> sorry dmrc it is
[04:10] <Ophiocus> .dmrc
[04:10] <rob_p> tim__:  Might I suggest using dpkg-reconfigure to do it for you?  It takes a lot of guesswork out of editing your xorg.conf file.  Simply type, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" at the command line.  It will give you the option to add whatever resolutions you like.  However, your card must be able to support them.
[04:11] <nathanj> wihs there was gui xorg configurer :P
[04:11] <mustard5> Ophiocus, not much in it really
[04:11] <Ophiocus> if you got more than one line ,..
[04:11] <tim__> rob_p: hey thanx !  That sounds like a plan !   Thanx for your help. This place rocks :o)
[04:11] <mustard5> Ophiocus, you want to see mine in #fllod?
[04:11] <mustard5> Ophiocus, #flood?
[04:11] <IcemanV9> AMDXP: nope. i mean mplayer worked, but i rather use xine since it supports CC
[04:11] <rob_p> tim__:  However, if you prefer manually editing it, the file you want is /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[04:11] <Ophiocus> yup
[04:12] <rob_p> tim__:  Ok.  Good luck with it. :-)
[04:12] <orbx> ptlo: im sorry but whats the code in the terminal to compile C++? g++ -o name.cpp?
[04:12] <mustard5> Ophiocus, /join #flood
[04:12] <mustard5> doh
[04:12] <mustard5> hehe
[04:12] <Ophiocus> wrong x clicked
[04:12] <Ophiocus> :P
[04:13] <nathanj> orbx: gcc -o file.cpp
[04:13] <nathanj> orbx: sorry man gcc
[04:13] <orbx> nthanj: ok i got thanks man
[04:13] <nathanj> orbx: gcc inout.cpp -o prog
[04:13] <nathanj> :)
[04:14] <AMDXP> Iceman: ok I am just trying to avoid a lot of headache i had enough on the install
[04:14] <AMDXP> lol
[04:14] <fct> be careful with the "-o output_file" thingie, you could overwrite source code
[04:14] <orbx> nathaj: i used g++ -o name name.cpp
[04:15] <nathanj> orbx: note fct comment :) maybe use a sep dir for outputs :)
[04:15] <IcemanV9> AMDXP: one tip fer ya -> use tab key to complete nick :)
[04:15] <nathanj> the beuties of <tab>
[04:15] <IcemanV9> AMDXP: that should cheer u up a bit ;)
[04:16] <nathanj> can you theme gaim>
[04:17] <IcemanV9> nathanj: maybe .. check out gaim FAQ
[04:18] <fct> gaim uses gtk themes, so changing the gtk/gnome theme affects it (if you mean widget theming)
[04:20] <fct> I'm getting 403s when trying to get freenx for breezy from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl, anyone knows what's up?
[04:20] <nalioth> fct: you'll have to ask seveas to open it up for you
[04:21] <fct> huh? Isn't it a public repository?
[04:21] <nathanj> http://www.tuskore.com/20051113.png
[04:21] <nathanj> see that gaim
[04:21] <nathanj> i want mine like that :P
[04:22] <nathanj> im using all the same themes as him too
[04:23] <Ophiocus> soo
[04:23] <Ophiocus> file sould be owned by user and have 644 permissions
[04:23] <Ophiocus> the sould aint my typo
[04:24] <mustard5> Ophiocus, hmmm curious that it would tell you a different permission to what I have
[04:24] <mustard5> -rw-------  1 seablue seablue 26 2005-09-15 00:39 .dmrc
[04:24] <mustard5> mines just rw
[04:24] <Glassius> i am trying to install the vpn-client and need the kernel source to do so? does ubuntu use the vanilla kernel? i can't apt-get untill i get the vpn up and running
[04:25] <Ophiocus> can fix that, but still,.. maybe it that message is hardwired its from previous versions and no longer vbalid in breezy?
[04:25] <mustard5> Ophiocus, hmmm well I am on dapper atm actually hehehe
[04:25] <Ophiocus> ah
[04:25] <mustard5> Ophiocus, I suppose that could be relevant
[04:25] <Ophiocus> indeed
[04:25] <Ophiocus> but still
[04:26] <jandusion> selinium, are you there??
[04:26] <Xanadu> I've been trying to create a page on LaptopTestingTeam wiki but it tells me I am not allowed to edit the page.
[04:27] <mustard5> Xanadu, and you are registerd?
[04:27] <Glassius> anyone? can i use the vanilla kernel source?
[04:27] <Xanadu> I'm registered with Launchpad
[04:27] <Xanadu> I don't see anywhere to register with laptoptestingteam
[04:27] <mustard5> Xanadu, top right corner?
[04:28] <mustard5> Xanadu, there is a login I think
[04:28] <fblade> hey guys how can i upgrade my version of ubuntu to the atest one?
[04:28] <mustard5> fblade, what are you on now?
[04:28] <Xanadu> aaah see it mustard5 - off to try it
[04:29] <mustard5> Glassius, I wish I knew
[04:29] <fblade> mustard5: im on hoary
[04:29] <mustard5> Glassius, the only thing that comes to mind is a thread in ubuntu forums about installing a vanilla kernel, which makes me think its not the default.  ignore me if this is irrelevant
[04:30] <cusco> hi
[04:30] <jandusion> hey can any1 tell me the command to install skype from terminal   im useing ubuntu
[04:30] <cusco> I just did a terrible thing
[04:30] <LathropWells> Sound Recorder isn't working. - Any tips?
[04:30] <mustard5> Glassius, personally I dont know a vanilla kernel from a normal kernel :)
[04:30] <jandusion> heh
[04:30] <mustard5> fblade, read this link from ubotu
[04:30] <mustard5> !breezy
[04:30] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[04:31] <cusco> anyone here using a toshiba laptop?
[04:31] <LathropWells> <<- prefers the cherry garcia kernel
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> cusco,  thers dozens of different toshiba laptops
[04:31] <cusco> I know...
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> so you MAY want to give a little more details.
[04:31] <leo__> how do i get two monitors working i just installed an nvidia driver but i can't find anything about twinview???
[04:32] <Glassius> mustard5: hehe
[04:32] <cusco> Dr_Willis, oh well... I just did a sudo seed /etc/modules
[04:32] <Glassius> think i found a way
[04:32] <LathropWells> leo__ -xinerama i think
[04:32] <jandusion> selinium, are you there??
[04:32] <cusco> see
[04:32] <orbx> does anyone know whether its possible to install apache on ubuntu?
[04:32] <leo__> thanks!
[04:32] <Glassius> got synaptic working through the proxy
[04:32] <Caronte> Wich version of Tcl/Tk is recommended to use on Ubuntu BB?
[04:32] <cusco> sed
[04:32] <El_Che> leo__: xinerama worked fine with the standard ati module
[04:32] <mustard5> Glassius, ah sounds good :)
[04:32] <fct> orbx, sure
[04:32] <cusco> ai
[04:34] <orbx> fct: do you download off the net or is it on the synaptic package manager
[04:34] <cusco> Dr_Willis, Ijust did a tee /etc/modules
[04:34] <cusco> I got no /etc/modules
[04:34] <carrot> i've a question - i'm running hoary, and i'd like to upgrade to breezy. is there anything to do besides editing sources.list and apt-get upgrade?
[04:34] <fct> orbx, you can install it with synaptic, just need to activate the universe repository
[04:34] <cusco> !breezy
[04:34] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> cusco,  you mean a 'cat /etc/modules' ?
[04:35] <cusco> Dr_Willis, no :( the file is blank
[04:35] <carrot> thanks
[04:35] <cusco> I go a moment of stupiditty
[04:35] <orbx> fct: how do i do that
[04:36] <lanjelot> is there a way to jump to a man page from the firefox browser ?
[04:36] <mustard5> !repos
[04:36] <ubotu> somebody said repos was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:36] <mustard5> orbx, read that stuff from ubotu
[04:36] <orbx> ok mustard5
[04:36] <jandusion> any1 got time to help me?
[04:36] <mustard5> jandusion, depends on the problem
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> lanjelot,  ive seen some manpage2html front ends/cgi scripts - but nothing  by default that lets you do that.
[04:37] <jandusion> sudo dpkg -i ~/skype_1.2.0.18-1ubuntu0_i386.deb
[04:37] <jandusion>    this command dosnt work
[04:37] <orbx> mustard5: so i'm guessing mysql can be installed on ubuntu as well?
[04:37] <mustard5> orbx, yep
[04:37] <El_Che> jandusion: download the static compiled tar
[04:37] <orbx> mustard5: thanks for the info.
[04:37] <mustard5> orbx, its all in the repositories...but you need to enable them all :)
[04:37] <nathanj> hrmm
[04:37] <El_Che> jandusion: that version works fine with me
[04:38] <jandusion> El_Che, from??
[04:38] <orbx> mustard5: yea im doing as we speak
[04:38] <fblade> hey guys should i trust the reposratires of the unofical ubuntu guide?
[04:38] <jandusion> nop
[04:38] <mustard5> jandusion, really need to see the error message
[04:38] <mustard5> paste it in the pastebin
[04:38] <mustard5> !pastebin
[04:38] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:38] <jandusion> mustard5, well thats the problem... there is no error message
[04:39] <mustard5> jandusion, have you looked in the menus for it?
[04:39] <mustard5> jandusion, look under applications>>internet
[04:39] <IcemanV9> orbx: more info on lamp -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?action=show&redirect=LAMPForHoary
[04:40] <mustard5> jandusion, I assume you saw some installation stuff going on when you did that command?
[04:40] <jandusion> mustard5, nope nothing... and thats what bothering me
[04:40] <ubuntu-newbie> hi
[04:41] <ubuntu-newbie> i cant seem to play avi with totem
[04:41] <ubuntu-newbie> why
[04:41] <mustard5> jandusion, it should at least say something...thats quite strange
[04:41] <mikeval> other than using Smart Boot Manager (which didnt work), how can i install ubuntu in a system that wont boot from cd? is there an 'official boot floppy disk'?
[04:42] <ubuntu-newbie> anybody?
[04:42] <jandusion> im useing that command over and over again...... nothing.... not an error message not anything
[04:42] <mustard5> ubuntu-newbie, you read restricted formats at the wiki?
[04:42] <mustard5> ubotu: tell ubuntu-newbie about restricted
[04:43] <mustard5> jandusion, I think you have some other problem going on there
[04:43] <mustard5> jandusion, it should at least say that it is installing the package and tell you of its progress
[04:44] <jandusion> mustard5, iv used this command>  wget http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/breezy-extras/skype_1.2.0.18-1ubuntu0_i386.deb and downloaded that pack
[04:44] <ubuntu-newbie> thanks ill try that
[04:44] <mustard5> jandusion, was the download succesful?
[04:44] <mustard5> jandusion, I use that one myself
[04:44] <jandusion> 100%
[04:44] <LathropWells> mikeval - yes there is a boot img file  ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-19428.html
[04:45] <ubuntu-newbie> mustard5,  i dont see anything about .avi formats?
[04:45] <ubuntu-newbie> *formats
[04:45] <mustard5> ubuntu-newbie, its the w32codecs download
[04:45] <jandusion> mustard5, when im looking over it, it tells me that all the files is been saved and the progress is 100%
[04:45] <mikeval> thanx LathropWells
[04:45] <ubuntu-newbie> mustard5,  does it include divx codecs?
[04:46] <mustard5> ubuntu-newbie, I would assume so..not sure
[04:46] <jandusion> mustard5, so what is the next step
[04:46] <LathropWells> mikeval - yes there is a boot img file    *.sbm
[04:46] <mustard5> jandusion, gosh..I'm at a bit of a loss....
[04:47] <mustard5> jandusion, reboot and pray?
[04:47] <mustard5> hehehe
[04:47] <LathropWells> it is on the CD you downloaded
[04:47] <jandusion> mustard5, ok if you say so man
[04:47] <mustard5> jandusion, something is not working in your terminal
[04:47] <mustard5> jandusion, cause it should be giving output
[04:48] <mikeval> hmmm... its not that, LathropWells, i need a floppy image or something...  my system wont boot from cd, old bios... Smart Boot Manager doestn work either...
[04:49] <LathropWells> oops - yes wrong link - there is an *.sbm file and some info on your  CD - just a sec i'll dig up a how to
[04:50] <c0rrupt_> im installing nefarious ircd with ssl support and i have openssl and libssl installed but im still gettin an error configuring saying it cant find ssl.. what other packages do i have to install?
[04:51] <orbx> i have just installed apache and php5, does anyone know how i can configure and setup?
[04:51] <mustard5> orbx, see if there is anything on here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:51] <Ubuntero> Hi everybody
[04:52] <mustard5> welcome Ubuntero
[04:52] <LathropWells> mikeval - "Smart Boot Manager" *.sbm  - not an ubuntu link but the best i could do - good luck http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/topic-14601.html
[04:52] <orbx> mustard5: ok thanks
[04:52] <mustard5> orbx, I hope it helps..I havent read it :)
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> c0rrupt_,  look for the ssl and openssl developer files you may of missed.
[04:52] <Ubuntero> thanks mustard5
[04:52] <c0rrupt_> where?
[04:52] <Ubuntero> I need a liittle help
[04:53] <mikeval> thanx again LathropWells... i believe i was screwing SBM up since my english is not very good... and i found no manual till now... thanx!
[04:53] <BuFF> why i can't view xp files through GUI in ubuntu 5.10 ? the error is "the folder content could not be displayed, you dont have perrmisions to view hda1 files"
[04:54] <mustard5> c0rrupt_, you got synaptic?
[04:54] <c0rrupt_> no.. no user interface
[04:54] <ubuntu-newbie> Red-Sox, Ubuntero ;)
[04:54] <c0rrupt_> ssh only
[04:54] <mustard5> c0rrupt_, try packages.ubuntu.com
[04:54] <Ubuntero> Hello ubuntu-newbie , Red-Sox
[04:54] <BuFF> shoul i login as root maybe ?
[04:54] <Se7h> is there any problem with the v4l ?
[04:54] <mustard5> c0rrupt_, hmmm that might still be difficult
[04:55] <mustard5> c0rrupt_, what about apt-cache search <keyword>
[04:55] <c0rrupt_> -.-
[04:55] <c0rrupt_> ive already done that
[04:55] <mustard5> what am I looking for c0rrupt_ ?
[04:55] <c0rrupt_> ssl?
[04:56] <c0rrupt_> hmm
[04:56] <c0rrupt_> whata bout libssl-dev
[04:56] <twibbler> good afternoon all.
[04:56] <mustard5> k
[04:56] <mustard5> yeah I got a libssl-dev
[04:57] <twibbler> has anybody tried to setup a docking station under linux? specifically a usb one...
[04:57] <mustard5> c0rrupt_, I should mention I am on dapper drake too ;)
[04:57] <c0rrupt_> ?
[04:58] <mustard5> c0rrupt_, does libssl-dev install for you?
[04:58] <c0rrupt_> yes sir
[04:59] <Ubuntero> y have to reinstall ubuntu???
[04:59] <c0rrupt_> and it worked..
[04:59] <c0rrupt_> configured properly
[04:59] <mustard5> c0rrupt_, good stuff :)
[04:59] <mustard5> Ubuntero, I'm not sure what you mean
[04:59] <Ubuntero> i'm having problemsn  with the preferences administator daemon
[05:00] <Ubuntero> mustard5, cant' save any configuration inn gnome
[05:00] <mustard5> Ubuntero, do you get error messages?
[05:01] <LathropWells> mustard - do you have a good script to back everything up after you get it tweaked just right/
[05:01] <Ubuntero> let me log out, write the message and then shoew you guys
[05:01] <mustard5> LathropWells, no scripts no, ..I use mondo disaster recovery tool :)
[05:01] <LathropWells> Ah - nice tip - Thanks
[05:02] <mustard5> LathropWells, it nees a fix though
[05:02] <LathropWells> mustard - Eh?
[05:02] <mustard5> LathropWells, there is a thread on it in the ubuntu forums
[05:02] <LathropWells> mustard - Thanks - i'll find it.
[05:02] <mustard5> LathropWells, you need to edit the mindi.sh before it will work
[05:02] <LathropWells> np
[05:03] <mustard5> LathropWells, its missing a single character in one line ;)
[05:03] <mustard5> LathropWells, I think I called the thread "mondo/mindi not working?"
[05:04] <Zuiden> there is a way to install rpm packages in ubuntu
[05:04] <Zuiden> but i forgot how
[05:04] <Ubuntero> mustard5,
[05:04] <mustard5> Zuiden, alien
[05:04] <_jason> hello, can anyone help me setting up xbindkeys?  Is it possible to bind an action to a key being pressed and to a key being releaser?
[05:04] <Ubuntero> i'm back
[05:04] <Zuiden> whats the command?
[05:05] <mustard5> Ubuntero, don't paste in main channel ok?
[05:05] <mustard5> !pastebin
[05:05] <_jason> Zuiden, alien
[05:05] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:05] <orbx> does anyone know whether its possible to install Asp (active server pages) on a apache server?
[05:05] <Zuiden> blah
[05:05] <Ubuntero> ok
[05:05] <Ubuntero> ;)
[05:06] <Zuiden> my sources are borked
[05:06] <mustard5> Zuiden, I hear alien doesnt work to well
[05:06] <Ubuntero> but i wasn't going to paste
[05:06] <Ubuntero> hahhaa
[05:06] <mustard5> Zuiden, what you trying to install?
[05:06] <Zuiden> synergy
[05:07] <Zuiden> http://synergy2.sf.net
[05:07] <Ubuntero> couse it says unknown failure ocurres mustard5
[05:07] <mustard5> Ubuntero, ooooo...thats a mysterious error :)
[05:08] <mustard5> Ubuntero, doesnt gives us many clues does it? :)
[05:08] <dpupp> Is there any way to create a "shortcut" to: /.wine/drive_c/Program Files/DVD Shrink$ wine shrink.exe
[05:08] <Ubuntero> mustard5, yeah, i think i'm going to re installl
[05:08] <trappist> dpupp: make a bash script that cds to that directory and runs 'wine shrink.exe'
[05:09] <dpupp> how do i do that? (im new to this)
[05:09] <mustard5> Zuiden, is synergy in the ubuntu repositories no good?
[05:09] <Ubuntero> well, but before reinstalling can somebody explain me why i can't enter directly to #ubuntu
[05:09] <Zuiden> i tried to install it and i haven't seen it show up on my system
[05:09] <mustard5> Ubuntero, probably registration required?
[05:09] <trappist> dpupp: first line is #!/bin/bash second line is cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/DVD\ Shrink third line is wine shrink.exe
[05:09] <mustard5> Ubuntero, or need to identify with the nickserv?
[05:09] <trappist> dpupp: then chmod +x your bash script
[05:10] <mustard5> Zuiden, have you tried running from command line?
[05:10] <basti__> why was I kicked?
[05:10] <Ubuntero> yes, but i'm now registered, and when i used Hoary server never asked, it just connected
[05:10] <Zuiden> workgin on it now
[05:10] <mustard5> Zuiden, type the first few letters in and hit the tab key twice
[05:11] <ColdWind> ?
[05:11] <basti__> ?
[05:11] <dpupp> thanks trappist. i'll try that...
[05:11] <nalioth> ColdWind: #ubuntu-unregged is a spambot trap.
[05:11] <builder> how do I add another screen resolution to my options in System -> Screen Resolution?
[05:11] <ColdWind> okay
[05:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell builder about fixres
[05:12] <ColdWind> I got logged in ubuntu-regged when I connected
[05:12] <nalioth> ColdWind: what client do you use?
[05:12] <ColdWind> X-Chat
[05:13] <ColdWind> I connected clicking on pre-defininted network Ubuntu Servers
[05:13] <mustard5> basti__, are you registered and identified with the nickserv?
[05:13] <nalioth> ColdWind: in your server list, edit your freenode preferences so that your nickserv password is in the "server password" field. leave the nickserv password field empty
[05:13] <Stormx2> Hi
[05:13] <ColdWind> hmm ok
[05:14] <basti__> mustard5,  no I am not
[05:14] <basti__> I just have one question
[05:14] <mustard5> basti__, that might have been what occured then
[05:14] <ColdWind> nickserv password was empty
[05:14] <basti__> hmm
[05:15] <basti__> how to upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10? The Updater told me, more Infos should be on Ubuntu Page, but I cant find them (Maybe because I am german?)
[05:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell basti__ about breezy
[05:15] <mustard5> !breezy
[05:15] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:16] <basti__> Thank you!
[05:16] <mustard5> basti__, read carefully ;)
[05:17] <basti__> mustard5,  okay
[05:21] <ubuntu-newbie> what the!
[05:21] <ubuntu-newbie> Err http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas/breezy-backports Sources
[05:21] <ubuntu-newbie>   Could not connect to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl:80 (83.160.7.26). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[05:21] <ubuntu-newbie> is that possible?
[05:21] <nalioth> ubuntu-newbie: yes it's possible
[05:22] <nalioth> ubuntu-newbie: get with seveas when he returns
[05:22] <kemik> !apache
[05:22] <ubotu> apache is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[05:22] <enkrav> Hello, I just installed ubuntu 5.10 and noticed a problem: In some apps like evince you can tear off toolbars, but afterwards you can't put them back in place! Moving them holding ALT works, but otherwise you cannot even move teared-off toolbars!
[05:22] <Stormx2> another day another annoying problen with cds ^.^
[05:22] <ubuntu-newbie> nalioth, get with what?
[05:23] <trappist> ubuntu-newbie: seveas is a regular here and he runs that repo
[05:23] <j2ee> hi, all. I have a little problem here :)
[05:23] <trappist> or so I gather
[05:23] <ubuntu-newbie> trappist, oh.. its in my apt-get update ^o) should it connect to seveas?
[05:23] <enkrav> I bet this is a known problem, isn't it? Otherwise try it out
[05:24] <j2ee> I've just installed ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger"
[05:24] <trappist> ubuntu-newbie: apparently there's some reason it does.  it should usually work.
[05:24] <nalioth> ubuntu-newbie: Seveas is the person responsible for that URL
[05:24] <j2ee> And now I see only a tty, how can I load a GUI
[05:24] <nalioth> ubuntu-newbie: get with Seveas (a who, not a what)
[05:24] <trappist> j2ee: startx
[05:24] <j2ee> jee, thanks
[05:25] <LathropWells> Seveas is the person ""Generous" enough to provide that URL? ;)
[05:25] <j2ee> command not found :(
[05:25] <ubuntu-newbie> ok ok :P thanks
[05:25] <trappist> j2ee: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[05:26] <ubuntu-newbie> so he must be important
[05:27] <jonnylitten> hi
[05:27] <j2ee> something is happening, I'll let You know if something goes wrong, thanks again
[05:27] <jandusion> selinium, are you there?
[05:27] <jonnylitten> i need help with sound!
[05:27] <Amaranth> j2ee: did you install the server version?
[05:28] <LathropWells> With Open Source Software everyone is given the chance to contribute to the community - Seveas has made good use of that opportunitty. - ;)
[05:28] <j2ee> it looks like it
[05:28] <Amaranth> j2ee: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:28] <Amaranth> j2ee: it'll take awhile but when it finishes restart your computer and things should work
[05:28] <j2ee> too late, I'm already given to choose screen resolution
[05:29] <Amaranth> oh yeah, that's xorg configuration
[05:29] <Amaranth> finish that, then run the command i gave you
[05:30] <j2ee> so now I'm back to tty, I should run this now 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[05:30] <trappist> j2ee: xserver-xorg is a subset of ubuntu-desktop
[05:30] <trappist> yes
[05:30] <jonnylitten> sound works on xmms snd other programs like that but not on gaim!
[05:30] <jandusion> selinium, are you there?
[05:30] <jonnylitten> and*
[05:30] <trappist> jandusion: I imagine he would have answered you the first time if he was here
[05:31] <jandusion> trappist, ok...
[05:31] <Stormx2> lets see if sound juicer dies at track 6 again
[05:32] <Stormx2> jonnylitten: Hmm, i had a problem that xmms audio was stopping gaim!
[05:32] <trappist> you guys probably have sound cards that don't do hardware mixing and you're not running a sound daemon to do it for you
[05:33] <debian_user> I'm an avid debian fan and user, but have yet to try ubuntu
[05:33] <Stormx2> You havn't lived
[05:33] <trappist> ubuntu-newbie: here's Seveas
[05:33] <Stormx2> ^.^
[05:33] <debian_user> Is ubuntu pretty much the same thing as debian?
[05:33] <kemik> uhm.. yes and no
[05:33] <debian_user> I mean, I'd like to be able to use it as a mail server, or bind server, or whatever
[05:33] <Seveas> debian_user, www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[05:33] <trappist> debian_user: I just switched myself.  it's debian without the ancient packages and the elitist community, if I may put it that way
[05:34] <debian_user> or maybe an Asterisk pbx...
[05:34] <kemik> trappist:  put it in a good way
[05:34] <jandusion> hey im useing the command  sudo dpkg -i ~/skype_1.2.0.18-1ubuntu0_i386.deb..... why dosnt it work??
[05:34] <__> ubuntu is not == debian
[05:34] <trappist> ok
[05:34] <debian_user> I know its got a nice GUI
[05:34] <trappist> it's like debian but better :)
[05:34] <trappist> newer
[05:34] <trappist> friendlier
[05:34] <kemik> !tell jandusion about skype
[05:34] <kemik> alot friendlier
[05:34] <trappist> more polished
[05:34] <trappist> sorta
[05:34] <kemik> and alot easier aswell
[05:34] <j2ee> Amaranth: one more question. How big is that installation of ubuntu-desktop?
[05:34] <test34> Can you disable the graphical loader for X ?
[05:34] <Stormx2> =) Gotta love ubuntu
[05:34] <debian_user> so trappist, I don't lose any debian functionality by switching?
[05:35] <Amaranth> j2ee: i don't remember exactly, how much space do you have?
[05:35] <trappist> debian_user: it's possible there's some package debian has that ubuntu doesn't, but I haven't discovered it
[05:35] <Stormx2> sometimes this channel gets a little communist, but generally ubuntu kicks butt
[05:35] <jonnylitten> tritium: for future reference...why did you ban me?
[05:35] <j2ee> it's all on this pc, I'm using WMware, so it's 4GB
[05:35] <Amaranth> Stormx2: What?
[05:35] <debian_user> trappist: well, I can't say I'm a big user of obscure debian packages
[05:35] <Amaranth> j2ee: 4GB is enough
[05:35] <Stormx2> Amaranth: What what!
[05:35] <debian_user> but doesn't ubuntu access the debian archive to install its pakcages?!
[05:36] <jonnylitten> Stormx2: xmms audio is working fine, though!
[05:36] <kemik> debian_user:  no
[05:36] <Amaranth> Stormx2: "this channel gets a little communist"
[05:36] <robotgeek> debian_user: nopee
[05:36] <Stormx2> Amaranth: It does, sometimes
[05:36] <debian_user> hmmm...
[05:36] <debian_user> ok
[05:36] <Seveas> debian_user, Ubuntu regularly synchronizes with debian
[05:36] <tritium> jonnylitten, I didn't
[05:36] <Amaranth> Stormx2: What do you mean?
[05:36] <calamari> hi
[05:36] <Stormx2> "respect everyone or SUFFER THE CONCEQUENCES"
[05:36] <Seveas> all that is in Debian is in Ubuntu (and more and better)
[05:36] <debian_user> You know, I guess I'll just have to try it out!
[05:36] <j2ee> actualy I'm retrieving data from us.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:36] <jonnylitten> tritium: im jonny, you may have banned me as Red-Sox
[05:36] <Seveas> debian_user, yes you will ;)
[05:37] <debian_user> I've got a machine that's just itching for it...
[05:37] <Stormx2> Amaranth: Sometimes it seems like people are waiting for someone to say something stupid or use some initiative before coming here.
[05:37] <Amaranth> Stormx2: that's not "communist", that's called "Good Manners"
[05:37] <tritium> jonnylitten, when was this?
[05:37] <debian_user> will it do ok on a pentium II?
[05:37] <jonnylitten> tritium: id say 7-10 days ago
[05:37] <Seveas> you should install a 'server' system which installs a base cli system
[05:37] <Stormx2> How did I guess. Sound juicer died on track 6 again.
[05:37] <tritium> jonnylitten, you expect me to remember what you did?  I'd have to check the irc logs
[05:37] <Seveas> and xubuntu-desktop (xfce) or something smaller on top if you want a gui
[05:37] <jonnylitten> tritium: somebody pulled up the ban list and found my ip and your name as who banned me
[05:37] <trappist> Stormx2: this place is orders of magnitude better about that than most linux support channels
[05:37] <MarcN> Seveas: nope.  X11 soaks up some amount of memory/cpu
[05:38] <jonnylitten> tritium: do you remember banning me?
[05:38] <Seveas> MarcN, ?
[05:38] <Amaranth> Stormx2: You mean all the ops that jump on you if you don't follow the rules? :) We get a little over zealous about the rules from time to time.
[05:38] <MarcN> Seveas: what?
[05:38] <smergler2> Seveas: you still havent gotten back to me
[05:38] <Amaranth> brb
[05:38] <Seveas> MarcN, that's what I want to know :)
[05:38] <Seveas> smergler2, I just travelled home from work :)
[05:38] <tritium> jonnylitten, not specifically
[05:38] <jonnylitten> tritium: well...ill have to be EXTRA carefull so i dont do whatever I did before
[05:39] <tritium> jonnylitten, don't violate the Code of Conduct, and you'll be fine
[05:39] <Seveas> !tell jonnylitten about coc
[05:39] <Stormx2> Amaranth: Well yeah. I mean I'm all pro-rules and all, but sometimes sometimes a little constructive critisism can help rather than a stern telling off when one is broken
[05:39] <MarcN> Seveas: thought you were asking about installing X on a server.  never mind.
[05:39] <jonnylitten> tritium, Seaveas: I already know it
[05:39] <Seveas> marcels, no I was not :)
[05:39] <smergler2> Seveas: ok.. but have you checked out my pastebin?
[05:39] <Seveas> MarcN*
[05:39] <jonnylitten> tritium, Seaveas: and I cant imagine myself breaking it
[05:39] <Seveas> smergler2, doing that as we speak/type
[05:40] <smergler2> ok, thank you
[05:40] <debian_user> has anybody used ubuntu for an LTSP for thin client setup?
[05:40] <trappist> Stormx2: some people are jerks, and in a channel of 600 there's bound to be a few.  but this place is a lot better than most.
[05:40] <LathropWells> !thinclient
[05:40] <ubotu> LathropWells: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:40] <test34> usplash is a needed service ?
[05:40] <tritium> jonnylitten, evidently you did, since you were banned.
[05:40] <Seveas> smergler2, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf you should try and change i810 to vesa
[05:40] <nalioth> jonnylitten: he does not. just be civil from now on and none of us will bother with the prospect of a ban
[05:41] <Stormx2> trappist: I know, and I appreciate everyone here really :)
[05:41] <jonnylitten> nalioth: thanks
[05:41] <Stormx2> I don't know why sound juicer will always crash on track 6... any cd I try.
[05:42] <trappist> Stormx2: are you running out of disk space?
[05:42] <jonnylitten> anyway...im having problems...sound problems...sound works in xmms and apps like that, but not in gaim and apps like that!
[05:42] <Stormx2> trappist: let me check, shouldn't think so.
[05:42] <trappist> jonnylitten: if you close both xmms and gaim and restart gaim, does sound work in gaim?
[05:42] <Stormx2> trappist: 6.6 gigs left!
[05:42] <Stormx2> Oh dear its crashed again.
[05:43] <Stormx2> I tried ripping starting at track 6, hmm.
[05:43] <_jason> is there a script that does nothing?  kind of like the script equivalent of dev/null ?
[05:43] <Stormx2> _jason: Ehm, why
[05:43] <trappist> jareth_: you could easily write one
[05:44] <bipolar> This is awesome
[05:44] <bipolar> "xinit /usr/bin/vmware /home/bipolar/vmware/Windows\ 2000\ Professional/Windows\ 2000\ Professional.vmx -- :1 -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf-vesa"
[05:44] <Stormx2> what does it do?
[05:44] <jonnylitten> trappist: hmm...yes it does!
[05:44] <_jason> trappist, i could, but I'm curious if one exists.  i thought about just doing echo but that returns a blank line... any ideas?
[05:44] <trappist> Stormx2: starts windows on display :1, it looks like
[05:44] <bipolar> that puts opens up my Windows 2000 partition in Vmware on a seperate VT
[05:44] <Stormx2> Sweet!
[05:45] <calamari> anyone know why when I try to access Gnome help my cpu usage goes to 100% (it shows the topics on the left about 1 second apart).  Also, if I close the help window it keeps running in the background somehow and I have to manually kill it.  Never had this problem in warty or hoary
[05:45] <trappist> _jason: echo "" isn't "nothing"
[05:45] <_jason> trappist, echo -n works
[05:45] <trappist> echo -n is a little closer to nothing
[05:45] <trappist> _jason: try 'true'
[05:45] <tuskernini> hello all
[05:45] <Stormx2> Hey
[05:45] <_jason> trappist, lol awesome
[05:45] <Pygi> hello :)
[05:45] <_jason> trappist, thanks
[05:46] <tuskernini> can anyone help me with a dvd write error... or more dilemma...
[05:46] <laurent6666> bonjour
[05:46] <Pygi> tuskernini: ok, any more info? details? what are you using? cd record?
[05:47] <tuskernini> i want to write more than 4.4GB of data on a dvd... and all my linux programs that write, says that i need to put in another disk with more free space?
[05:47] <jonnylitten> trappist: is there a way to fix this?
[05:47] <Zuiden> asdf
[05:47] <Stormx2> Will dapper have a GUI installer?
[05:47] <tuskernini> pygi... thanx for listning... reading
[05:47] <jandusion> i cany open my synaptic package mamager why is that???
[05:47] <Stormx2> jandusion: What happens when you try to open it?
[05:47] <calamari> jandusion: what happens when you try to open it
[05:47] <calamari> lol
[05:47] <jandusion> Stormx2,  ummmm nothing
[05:47] <trappist> jonnylitten: your sound card doesn't do hardware mixing, so two apps can't use the sound card at once.  you need to run a sound daemon.
[05:47] <Pygi> tuskerini: what dvd(+/-) are you using? dual-layer one?
[05:47] <Dasnipa`> hmm xmms crashes when the total time of a playlist is > 700 hours :(
[05:47] <Stormx2> haha
[05:48] <Stormx2> calamari: ;-) Got there first.
[05:48] <calamari> Stormx2: sure did..
[05:48] <tuskernini> pygi... no single layer
[05:48] <Pygi> tuskerini: DVD's can't actually receive more data, 4.7GB is not even in theory...
[05:48] <jonnylitten> trappist: and that is done how?
[05:48] <tuskernini> pygi, i know.. from writing in windows...
[05:48] <jandusion> Stormx2,  ummmm nothing, its not even loading
[05:48] <calamari> jandusion: how about when you try running it from a terminal ?
[05:49] <Pygi> tuskernini: so what is the problem then? :)
[05:49] <jandusion> calamari, what is the command for that
[05:49] <tuskernini> pygi... no.. i mean.. i wrote a cd in windows... and want to copy it in linx...
[05:49] <tuskernini> sorry
[05:49] <tuskernini> :-)
[05:49] <Stormx2> OK, it won't rip track #7. Lets see if it will rip tracks 8-21
[05:49] <calamari> jandusion: synaptic
[05:49] <Pygi> tuskernini: gee, well :)
[05:49] <action09> hi
[05:49] <Pygi> tuskernini: do you have k3b installed?
[05:50] <action09> Anybody knows the name of the plugin or soft that evoulution is using to check spams and do online tests please ?
[05:50] <paulproteus> Dasnipa`: XMMS sucks.  Use Beep Media Player instead.
[05:50] <tuskernini> pygi, sorry i did not read all of your reply before replying myself... will not do it again... yes i do have k3b installed
[05:50] <action09> evolution
[05:50] <paulproteus> !bmp
[05:50] <ubotu> somebody said bmp was a guide to Beep Media Player and Plugins, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer
[05:50] <jonnylitten> tritium: did you ban me from all the channels?!
[05:50] <Stormx2> All hail BMP!!
[05:50] <action09> !evolution
[05:50] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, action09
[05:50] <amr> i installed wpasupplicant from apt
[05:50] <tuskernini> i have k3b and nerolinux... not gnomebaker anymore
[05:50] <amr> configured the conf
[05:50] <amr> but i go to /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant
[05:50] <amr> and it says its disabled
[05:50] <Pygi> tuskernini: well, why don't you just click "Copy disc" o
[05:50] <calamari> jandusion: any luck?
[05:50] <Pygi> or something
[05:50] <jandusion> calamari, just by typing synaptic i get the error .you must run this program in rout
[05:51] <calamari> jandusion: sudo synaptic, my bad
[05:51] <Stormx2> Well. I've concluded that sound juicer will _not_ rip track 7 of any cd I try.
[05:51] <jandusion> calamari, and sudo synaptic....... nothing
[05:51] <debian_user> anybody here have an experience with Ndiyo! ?
[05:51] <calamari> jandusion: it doesn't print anything at all, you just go to the next line and another prompt?
[05:51] <jandusion> calamari, juppz
[05:51] <jareth_> action09: try spamassasin
[05:52] <trappist> jonnylitten: I don't know what the sound daemon for gnome is, but in kde it's arts
[05:52] <trappist> artsd, rather
[05:52] <calamari> jandusion: after running it type `echo $?' (no quotes)
[05:52] <jonnylitten> trappist: im at the wiki
[05:52] <trappist> maybe gnome uses esd
[05:52] <action09> jareth_  yes but maybe want to know what's used on evolution natively , i think maybe it's ogo filter cos i see in evolution-plugins a doft called 'bbdb'
[05:52] <action09> but no idea of what's doing the online tests
[05:53] <jandusion> calamari, like this sudo synaptic echo $
[05:53] <jonnylitten> trappist: im still using the sound card on the motherboard, lol
[05:53] <jareth_> action09: i have no idea :)
[05:53] <amr> anyone here know anything about wpasupplicant?
[05:53] <amr> please
[05:53] <calamari> jandusion: nope.. on its own line
[05:53] <german> Hello
[05:53] <jandusion> calamari, i got 141
[05:54] <jandusion> calamari, jandusion@ubuntu:~$ echo $?
[05:54] <jandusion> 141
[05:54] <Stormx2> BMP doesn't *quite* read my mp3s right. It can't quite get how long it is
[05:55] <Stormx2> As the song progresses the max time goes down and down ;-)
[05:55] <calamari> jandusion: well, that's the error code.. now the trick is to figure out what that means :)
[05:55] <_native_> wpasupplicant is very straight forward. read the man look at the config file and you'll get it.
[05:55] <jandusion> calamari, i hope you know how to do that...cuz i dont..
[05:56] <jsz> hi
[05:56] <jsz> how do I remove a folder?
[05:56] <calamari> jandusion: one way is to look at the source, since the docs seem to be nonexistent
[05:56] <ke> rm -rf <folder>
[05:56] <Stormx2> rmdir <folderhere>
[05:56] <Stormx2> meh
[05:56] <_native_> amr; man wpa_supplicant
[05:56] <ke> Ah
[05:56] <jsz> also how do I setup a port forward so I can access my other box on the network from the internet?
[05:56] <calamari> jandusion: I'm curious tho.. type `which synaptic'
[05:56] <_native_> amr; there is also a howto at the wiki
[05:56] <Stormx2> jsz: That you can do from your router
[05:57] <jandusion> calamari, jandusion@ubuntu:~$ which synaptic
[05:57] <jandusion> /usr/sbin/synaptic
[05:57] <Stormx2> jsz: Check portforward.com. Do you need help setting up a static ip?
[05:57] <jsz> My network setup is 56k modem going to server then connected to 10mbit hub and client pc is on the hub too, I want to be able to access the client pc from outsite the network
[05:58] <calamari> jandusion: ok, `ls -l /usr/sbin/synaptic'
[05:59] <amr> nevermind
[05:59] <jandusion> calamari, jandusion@ubuntu:~$ ls -l /usr/sbin/synaptic
[05:59] <jandusion> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 939208 Oct  7 00:46 /usr/sbin/synaptic
[05:59] <_native_> amr; what did you want to know?
[06:00] <calamari> jandusion: well the size is right.. how about md5sum /usr/sbin/synaptic
[06:00] <Slackwise> Is there any way to rerun the auto configuration for Xorg?
[06:00] <amr> _native_, i just needed to change ENABLE to 1
[06:00] <amr> doh
[06:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Slackwise about xcfg
[06:00] <amr> ty anyway :)
[06:00] <Seveas> Slackwise, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:00] <nalioth> Slackwise: check your priv msg
[06:00] <_native_> amr pulled a homer. ;p
[06:00] <jandusion> calamari, jandusion@ubuntu:~$ md5sum /usr/sbin/synaptic
[06:00] <jandusion> 57e8be245ae6e384b8ba076a62a7899e  /usr/sbin/synaptic
[06:00] <jsz> Stormx2, it's not a router, I mean on my server
[06:00] <Slackwise> nalioth: Yea, I noticed. But I've tried that already and that's not really /automatic/. :P
[06:01] <jsz> iptables or something
[06:01] <amr> :p
[06:01] <Stormx2> My MP3s are skipping again :-\
[06:01] <calamari> jandusion: I get the same.. so at least the binary is intact
[06:01] <miguelanxo> Hi
[06:01] <jandusion> calamari, thats good
[06:01] <miguelanxo> is it possible to install oracle on ubuntu?
[06:01] <jsz> so like say I go ip:5623 it does to a webpage on the client pc
[06:01] <miguelanxo> I'm just about to debootstrap a debian woody for that
[06:01] <jandusion> calamari, u got any idea about what is wrong?
[06:01] <Slackwise> nalioth: I installed Ubuntu on one PC, then moved it to another. The have the same card, but the resolutions are now different. I'd much with the config files and do my usual configurations, but I was wondering if Ubuntu had a faster and more automated configuration tool.
[06:01] <calamari> jandusion: I have a few more ideas.. try this `sudo apt-get update'
[06:02] <_native_> cya.......
[06:02] <nalioth> Slackwise: run the command and deselect the rez you dont want
[06:02] <jandusion> calamari, nothing
[06:02] <Stormx2> damnit.
[06:02] <calamari> jandusion: echo $?
[06:02] <german> Hi everybody
[06:02] <IcemanV9> miguelanxo: yes. take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Oracle10g?highlight=%28oracle%29
[06:03] <Slackwise> nalioth: I just want to be able to get to 1280x1024, because 1024x768 is terrible. And prior to my HDD swap, the resolutions were fine. :/
[06:03] <Stormx2> My MP3s won't stop skipping... this is ridiculous. I want to be able to rip without skipping. I've tried DMA (or whatever it was) and it hasn't made a difference.
[06:03] <jandusion> calamari, guess what i got.........    141
[06:03] <german> just reinstalled breezy
[06:03] <calamari> jandusion: okay.. we're getting closer then :)
[06:03] <jandusion> calamari, yay
[06:03] <calamari> jandusion: how about this: sudo ls
[06:03] <Pygi> Slackwise: so you want back to your original res?
[06:03] <jandusion> calamari, nothiong
[06:03] <Greeboo> hello everyone.
[06:04] <Pygi> slackwise: what's wrong with using "Monitor configuration" or whatever is it called conf utility?
[06:04] <orbx> does anyone know if its possible to install asp (active server papges) on ubuntu apache?
[06:04] <Slackwise> Slackwise: Well, I want it to support the higher resolution. It's no longer in the gnome resolution configuration app.
[06:04] <calamari> jandusion: hmm.. something is wrong with sudo
[06:04] <VSpike> can anyone tell me which package i need to compile softawre that uses pcre?  I have libpcre3 installed, but that doesn't do it
[06:04] <jandusion> calamari, how do i fix it..
[06:04] <calamari> jandusion: lets check it   md5sum /usr/bin/sudo
[06:05] <Slackwise> Pygi: The problem is I installed Ubuntu here at work, on one PC. THen moved it to another PC with the same hardware, but apparently different PCI bus locations. It detected everything and it works, but now the resolution only goes up to 1024x768. The video cards are identical.
[06:05] <jandusion> calamari, jandusion@ubuntu:~$ md5sum /usr/bin/sudo
[06:05] <jandusion> 6f5442c62de0bc460303b335ccf48d02  /usr/bin/sudo
[06:05] <Rawplayer> re
[06:05] <Red-Sox> i can't figure out the first thing about snesx9 on ubuntu
[06:05] <calamari> jandusion: I get 72187fb160d38e683a003a99b20b71ef  /usr/bin/sudo
[06:05] <Slackwise> err, and i didn't mean to talk to myself. I ahve no clue why I typed my name above. :P
[06:06] <jandusion> calamari, WTF
[06:06] <Pygi> slackwise: ah, I know what's the problem
[06:06] <jandusion> calamari, so what is wrong with mine..??
[06:06] <amr> how do i stop ubuntu trying to sync the time on boot up?
[06:06] <Pygi> go to xorg.conf or something and change order of resolutions so that the one you want to run is the first one (or just add it if it does not exist)
[06:06] <calamari> jandusion: dunno.. but I'm pretty sure gksudo is used when running synaptic from the gui, so this isn't the whole story
[06:07] <Slackwise> Pygi: I did, then it freaked out and set it to 800x600 res max. @_@
[06:07] <Stormx2> when i issue "sudo hdparm /dev/hdc
[06:07] <Stormx2> " I get "HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument
[06:07] <Stormx2> " after readahead - should this be happening (I am trying to enable DMA)
[06:07] <orbx> is it possible to display your ip address in the terminal like the windows command ipconfig?
[06:07] <Pygi> slackwise: gee :/
[06:07] <Greeboo> ifconfig
[06:07] <NoUse> amr in the System -> Admin Menu, there is either boot up manager or services, that allows you to change what starts at boot
[06:07] <Slackwise> Pygi: So I guess there is no automated way to reconfigure Xorg without having to deal with the config file, eh?
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Stormx2,  what sort of system ya got?
[06:07] <amr> cheers
[06:07] <jandusion> calamari, what is te easyest way to fix this..
[06:07] <Slackwise> Pygi: I guess I must resort ot my old Slackware ways. :P
[06:07] <Pygi> slackwise: can you please send me the xorg.conf to mario.danic@gmail.com ?
[06:07] <orbx> ok thank you greeboo
[06:07] <calamari> jandusion: for md5sum /usr/bin/gksudo I get 4dc082c2c8df45d8a4e93b3641e4c96b  is that what you get also?
[06:07] <Greeboo> np.
[06:08] <Pygi> yup, slackware ways of editing config files manually :)
[06:08] <jandusion> calamari, jandusion@ubuntu:~$ md5sum /usr/bin/gksudo
[06:08] <jandusion> 4dc082c2c8df45d8a4e93b3641e4c96b  /usr/bin/gksudo
[06:08] <Pygi> but it should work with config utility, doesn't it show the appropriate resolution?
[06:08] <Stormx2> Dr_Willis: 32 bit AMD... 52x non-writing CD drive
[06:08] <calamari> jandusion: okay good
[06:08] <Stormx2> Breezy.
[06:08] <Pygi> maybe your monitor or something isn't properly set-uped?
[06:08] <amr> NoUse, its unticked, but it still does it
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> Stormx2,  Hmm. I had a similer issue with my Turion Laptop. but the 5.10 Ubuntu fixed it. (well the newer kernel fixed it)
[06:09] <Greeboo> one of you tried to make Cern's Root package running ubuntu?
[06:09] <calamari> jandusion: I can you my copy of sudo, but before I do, let's make sure the libraries will match up
[06:09] <Frafra> hi all
[06:09] <NoUse> amr make sure it's uncheck for runlevel 2
[06:09] <HappyFool> amr: 'sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove' at the command line
[06:09] <jandusion> calamari, ok just tell me how
[06:10] <calamari> jandusion: mind if I pm you? don't want to flood the channel with this next one
[06:10] <HappyFool> NoUse: the services dialog doesn't seem to distinguish between runlevels
[06:10] <jandusion> calamari, pm away
[06:10] <miguelanxo> How can I limit a .htacces <Files index.php>allow</Files> to the current dir only?
[06:10] <Slackwise> Pygi: http://pastebin.com/431899
[06:11] <NoUse> HappyFool interesting
[06:11] <HappyFool> and the ntpdate 'service' was only set for runlevel 'S' on my machine anyway (I just disabled it myself)
[06:11] <VSpike> is there an online package database for ubuntu?
[06:11] <Pygi> slackwise: I wanted you to mail me file cause I am currently going offline :/
[06:11] <Pygi> vspike: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:11] <Slackwise> Pygi: ohhh, ok. :P
[06:11] <Frafra> I need to know the ip of my modem ethernet. Who could help me?
[06:11] <Pygi> frafra: ifconfig
[06:11] <HappyFool> Frafra: 'ifconfig' should tell you. maybe 'ifconfig eth0' will be more specific
[06:11] <jbroome> Frafra: ifconfig
[06:11] <Pygi> gee, not three of us :P
[06:12] <Stormx2> Dr_Willis: I've done some googling and it looks like its not a problem
[06:12] <Slackwise> Pygi: It's ok though, I can handle the config file. I've written my own by hand. I was just wondering if Ubuntu had a cleaner way of doing things. It seemed to do it perfectly on the initial install. :P
[06:12] <Pygi> kk, bye all, take care :)
[06:12] <Stormx2> Its not making a difference with ripping, mind
[06:12] <Pygi> slackwise: well, it should work all with config utility :/
[06:12] <Pygi> don't know why it does not :/
[06:12] <Slackwise> Pygi: I'll just use Xorg -configure then configure the rest myself. :P
[06:13] <HappyFool> Slackwise: have you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?
[06:13] <Pygi> kk, good luck :)
[06:13] <Greeboo> so, did anyone of you try to make root.cern.ch work with ubuntu?
[06:13] <Slackwise> HappyFool: Yes, and it's too long and nasty. :P
[06:13] <HappyFool> oh no! it's seveas! stop pasting, everyone!
[06:13] <Stormx2> Hi Seveas
[06:13] <VSpike> how can i make aptitude use the full online package repository when i want something that is not on my cd?
[06:13] <Greeboo> i guess not.
[06:13] <orbx> does anyone know how to install asp on ubuntu apache?
[06:13] <Frafra> The result is: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/WNYg9O75.html
[06:13] <Pygi> vspike: go to /etc/sources.list  and enable all repositories
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> !repo
[06:13] <ubotu> Dr_Willis: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:14] <Stormx2> !repos
[06:14] <ubotu> somebody said repos was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[06:14] <calamari> jandusion: did you receive my pm's?
[06:14] <NoUse> orbx probably google that
[06:14] <Frafra> What's the ip please^
[06:14] <Frafra> ?
[06:14] <jandusion> calamari, yes
[06:14] <jandusion> calamari, didnt u resive min
[06:14] <calamari> jandusion: nope
[06:14] <jandusion> calamari, WHAT >S
[06:14] <HappyFool> Frafra: looks like it doesn't have an ipv4 address
[06:15] <orbx> i have NoUse no results :(
[06:15] <Stormx2> DMA has made ripping slower >.>
[06:15] <HappyFool> Frafra: how familiar with networking are you? Does your network use dhcp ?
[06:15] <calamari> jandusion: huh?
[06:15] <jandusion> calamari, wtf is wrong
[06:15] <Frafra> HappyFool: no, it doesn't
[06:15] <NoUse> orbx well I'm not sure it's possible, ASP is microsoft technology
[06:15] <calamari> jandusion: well, just use the pastebin then :) http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:16] <Greeboo> then you should set the ip manually, i think, frafra
[06:16] <HappyFool> Frafra: what sort of network is it? home? work? school?
[06:16] <NoUse> orbx this is from a search for "asp apache" http://www.apache-asp.org/
[06:16] <Frafra> HappyFool: home
[06:16] <Stormx2> I'm turning DMA off for this.
[06:16] <HappyFool> Frafra: ok, do you know what you want your IP address to be?
[06:16] <jandusion> calamari, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4632
[06:16] <Frafra> There are only my pc, my ethernet card (eth0) and the modem
[06:17] <HappyFool> Frafra: can you please put your /etc/network/interfaces file on the pastebin too?
[06:17] <Frafra> HappyFool: 192.168.1.1 or similiar are good :)
[06:17] <Frafra> ok
[06:17] <HappyFool> Frafra: fair enough
[06:17] <Red-Sox> hi
[06:17] <Greeboo> but what's the ip of your modem?
[06:18] <Frafra> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/cBe7Tr23.html
[06:18] <orbx> NoUse: i have seen that already, but its only for perl script because i don't think linux can support vbscript / javascript in apache
[06:18] <HappyFool> is there a dpkg-reconfigure command to reconfigure the IP? or is editing interfaces the standard way?
[06:18] <jandusion> calamari, you got it?
[06:18] <calamari> jandusion: thanks.. matches mine.. here is my sudo http://kidsquid.com/sudo
[06:19] <HappyFool> Frafra: hmm. i'm not familiar with pppoe
[06:19] <jandusion> calamari, ok got it, what now??? how i use it
[06:19] <NoUse> orbx well that seems like your only option, good reason to drop ASP eh?
[06:19] <calamari> jandusion: where did you save it to.. the desktop?
[06:19] <jandusion> calamari, jupp
[06:19] <orbx> NoUse: yep php all the way from now on
[06:19] <HappyFool> Frafra: have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE ?
[06:20] <Frafra> I need to know the ip of my ethernet modem for start tftp and change the firmware
[06:20] <Frafra> No, I'll read it.
[06:20] <calamari> jandusion: okay type ~/Desktop/sudo ls
[06:20] <stfn> orbx: look into mono.  I've never used it myself but... http://www.mono-project.com/ASP.NET http://www.mono-project.com/VisualBasic.NET_support
[06:20] <Frafra> I've set my net with pppoeconfig, like the how-to.
[06:21] <calamari> jandusion: if that doesn't work, you may need to first type chmod +x ~/Desktop/sudo
[06:21] <heinzanova> hey guys, I am looking at formatting my dell 700m and putting linux on it, for some, experimenting. And currently it has a wireless card in it, in the miniPCI that does not support moniter mode.  What is a good choice for either a replacement miniPCI or a pcmica that support monitering mode and installs cleanly in linux?  I was told last night in a different discussion that cards based on the prism chips are good. Suggestion
[06:21] <heinzanova> s?
[06:21] <vegons> hello
[06:22] <vegons> somebody nknows how can i configure postfix whit cyrus?
[06:22] <Stormx2> oh joy. My slower drive rips faster than my other drive
[06:22] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell heinzanova about wireless
[06:22] <Stormx2> ;-)
[06:22] <jandusion> calamari, jandusion@ubuntu:~$ ~/Desktop/sudo ls
[06:22] <jandusion> bash: /home/jandusion/Desktop/sudo: Permission denied
[06:22] <jandusion>                  crying
[06:22] <NoUse> calamari sudo will have to be installed sticky root to work
[06:22] <Stormx2> don't do sudo.
[06:22] <robotgeek> heinzanova: in that link, there is a link to a site containing a list of wireless cards known to work, (with exceptions mentioned)
[06:23] <HappyFool> Frafra: you can change eth0 (your PC's ethernet interface) to be statically configured, but i don't know if that's the right thing to do with pppoe
[06:23] <calamari> nouse: okay, please assist
[06:23] <Rawplayer> the silly questions that i always see in here
[06:23] <NoUse> calamari can you bring me up to speed?
[06:23] <jandusion> calamari, what now???
[06:23] <VSpike> what package provides make?
[06:23] <orbx> stfn: Thanks for the links i will have a look
[06:23] <calamari> nouse: his sudo appears to be corrupted and he just downloaded my copy
[06:23] <HappyFool> VSpike: install the 'build-essential' package (it's on the CD)
[06:23] <calamari> jandusion: one minute.. seems that sudo might be tricker than I thought to transfer
[06:24] <Frafra> How configure statically it? Otherwise, does exist another method for get the ip of my modem?
[06:24] <cmug> What gives?? "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_WindowListApplet"."
[06:24] <heinzanova> robotgeek, well noted, but I was curious if anyone had some good experiance with certain cards with the use of moniter mode for wep security checking
[06:24] <jandusion> calamari, i got all day.. take ur time
[06:24] <calamari> nouse: so chmod +x sudo isn't enough to give it executable permissions ?
[06:24] <robotgeek> heinzanova: i myself use the ralink based card
[06:24] <NoUse> calamari it'll be executable but it won't able to grant root permissions
[06:24] <VSpike> HappyFool : yay! thanks :)
[06:25] <heinzanova> robotgeek do you use it for aircrack and other utils?
[06:25] <HappyFool> Frafra: look here: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/0o8J7856.html
[06:25] <robotgeek> heinzanova: well, no. i am not sure about that
[06:25] <HappyFool> Frafra: i don't how you'll discover your modem's IP address
[06:25] <Frafra> Ok. Thanks HappyFool.
[06:25] <calamari> nouse: what do I need for the root permissions?  hoepfully no root needed hehe
[06:25] <NoUse> jandusion follow the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LostPassword and let me know when you finish step 7
[06:25] <jbroome> Frafra: does whatismyip.com give you the address you need?
[06:26] <jandusion> NoUse, shure
[06:26] <NoUse> calamari I think we'll need to give him root for this
[06:26] <Frafra> jbroome: it give me my public ip, not the ip of my modem. Thanks.
[06:26] <jbroome> Frafra: ahhh
[06:27] <Stormx2> Why won't serpentine rip track 7 :(
[06:27] <calamari> nouse: fyi, he has the fresh copy of sudo in ~/Desktop/sudo
[06:27] <Frafra> HappyFool: I must put it in my /etc/network/interfaces?
[06:27] <NoUse> calamari yeah
[06:28] <Mambo_Kettler> Just testing...
[06:28] <HappyFool> Frafra: yeah
[06:28] <Frafra> ok
[06:29] <Frafra> Do I edit something other?
[06:29] <foxgamer> I am having problems with the versions on the screensavers which is stopping me from running them. Can anyone help? TIA
[06:29] <jandusion> NoUse, I NEED TO REBOOT MY COMPUTER TO DO THIS RIGHT
[06:29] <HappyFool> Frafra: instead of the iface etho line there -- i think you probably ought to remove the 'preup /sbin/...' line too. Make sure you back the file up first!
[06:29] <HappyFool> please don't shout
[06:29] <NoUse> jandusion please don't use all caps, I can read lower case
[06:29] <jandusion> srry...
[06:29] <Stormx2> jandusion: How come?
[06:30] <Frafra> ok
[06:30] <NoUse> jandusion yes you do
[06:30] <jandusion> NoUse, ok..... wish mt good luck
[06:30] <Mambo_Kettler> can anyone recommend a simple introduction page for ubuntu? (i mean really simple beginner guide)?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> is one place to start.  then theres googling for "linux tutorials" and "linux Introduction"
[06:30] <HappyFool> how about help.ubuntu.com ?
[06:30] <NoUse> calamari he's not gonna fix anything, I didn't realize he had to leave to do this
[06:31] <Mambo_Kettler> Yeah, i'll try that. Thanx.
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> HappyFool,  never been there. :P
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> we need a "where to find total beginner information wiki" page. :P
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> "this is a mouse...."
[06:31] <spstarr_work> ubotu, wiki?
[06:31] <ubotu> spstarr_work: Bugger all, i dunno
[06:32] <Amaranth> i doubt it
[06:32] <Mambo_Kettler> Ha ha, yeapp, thats about the level i'm at. never used linux before.
[06:32] <Amaranth> !wiki
[06:32] <spstarr_work> ubotu, wiki?
[06:32] <spstarr_work> ubotu wiki is, like, either wiki.debian.net a place where you get help or from WikiWikiWeb, the author system behind most wikis. wiki is derived from the hawaiian wiki wiki which means hurry or fast.  Ward Cunningham's PortlandPatternRepository was the first Wiki.
[06:32] <Amaranth> NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:33] <spstarr_work> !wiki
[06:33] <spstarr_work> bah
[06:33] <Amaranth> spstarr_work: If you just overwrote a bot keyword I'm going to be very pissed off.
[06:33] <Stormx2> No!
[06:33] <Stormx2> idiot!
[06:33] <spstarr_work> perhaps not make it listen in channel?
[06:33] <cmug> help?
[06:33] <Amaranth> spstarr_work: I wish, but it's out of my hands.
[06:34] <Cryptid> How do i enable DMA for my cd writer , also i am not able to write cds at full speed i.e at 52x help me
[06:34] <gallonegro__> why cant wget download streaming video.. is ther a program taht will
[06:34] <reeen> hi
[06:34] <spstarr_work> Wellark_, if wiki was overwritten why did it return that for wiki?
[06:34] <spstarr_work> er Amaranth
[06:34] <reeen> how can i get ubuntu to run hdparm at startup ?
[06:34] <Amaranth> spstarr_work: You're asking it the wrong way. "ubout, wiki?" is searching the factoid DB for "wiki?"
[06:34] <Stormx2> You can use
[06:34] <spstarr_work> i dont believe i did since thats what ubotu returned
[06:34] <Stormx2> !wiki dma
[06:34] <Stormx2> for instance.
[06:34] <calamari> nouse: well, I gave him a little command line experience, perhaps he can do it
[06:34] <spstarr_work> hrm
[06:34] <Stormx2> But ubotu seems to be in a sulk at the moment
[06:34] <Amaranth> spstarr_work: it didn't, it correctly kept it's built-in keyword
[06:34] <spstarr_work> usually infobots are ubotu, thing
[06:34] <reeen> i think so too
[06:34] <Stormx2> reeen: You saw the wiki page?
[06:35] <reeen> no
[06:35] <Amaranth> ubotu, mp3
[06:35] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:35] <spstarr_work> ubotu, bot snack
[06:35] <reeen> can you give me the link please ?
[06:35] <ubotu> thanks spstarr_work :)
[06:35] <tobi> hello can somebody explain me the target of ubuntu detailed ?
[06:35] <Stormx2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA?highlight=%28DMA%29
[06:35] <Amaranth> spstarr_work: the ? is throwing it off
[06:35] <spstarr_work> so wiki is not known by ubotu
[06:35] <gallonegro__> whats the best way to download streamings stuff like mms:?
[06:35] <reeen> ubotu, hdparm
[06:35] <ubotu> reeen: Are you smoking crack?
[06:35] <spstarr_work> shouldn't
[06:35] <spstarr_work> ubotu, ubuntu?
[06:35] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntu was an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[06:35] <spstarr_work> see
[06:35] <Amaranth> wiki is a built-in keyword, not a factoid
[06:35] <Stormx2> reeen: Check that page.
[06:35] <spstarr_work> Ohmer, must be a new thing to infobot
[06:35] <Stormx2> spstarr_work: Stop playing with the bot.
[06:35] <reeen> hdparm is activated by default
[06:35] <reeen> it runs at boot
[06:35] <reeen> but it doesn't set my settings for the cd roms
[06:36] <Stormx2> reeen: You editted that file in /etc, like that page says?
[06:36] <Amaranth> spstarr_work: I see, it's ok with the ? it just failed because wiki is a command, not a factoid.
[06:36] <spstarr_work> yeah that I didn't notice
[06:36] <gallonegro__> whats the best way to download streamings stuff like mms:?
[06:36] <reeen> Stormx2: you mean /etc/hdparm.conf ?
[06:36] <reeen> yes i did that
[06:36] <Stormx2> reeen: Then it will load at boot.
[06:36] <reeen> it hadno effect at all
[06:36] <reeen> no it doesnt, Stormx2
[06:37] <Stormx2> reeen: But if you enable it by hand, it does work?
[06:37] <reeen> yes it does
[06:37] <reeen> command_line {hdparm -q -X66 -d1 -c2 -W1 /dev/hdd}
[06:37] <Amaranth> gallonegro__: Download? You listen to it.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> theres another hdparm config file also i recall.. but i forget where. :P
[06:37] <spstarr_work> in the other one 'wiki' is defined as a location for the kernelnewbies wiki
[06:37] <reeen> this is the shizzl i have to type in hdparm.conf
[06:37] <reeen> but it doesn't have any effect
[06:37] <gallonegro__> its a video, i want to download to see
[06:37] <gallonegro__> cause my player plugin dosnet work..
[06:37] <Stormx2> Ack
[06:37] <Amaranth> gallonegro__: streamripper is the only thing i can think of, but it's for sound only
[06:38] <Stormx2> I want my track 7!
[06:38] <gallonegro__> is there one for ubuntu?
[06:38] <Stormx2> gallonegro__: What format?
[06:38] <Amaranth> gallonegro__: streamripper is in universe
[06:38] <gallonegro__> ahh okay thanks
[06:38] <gallonegro__> its wmv
[06:39] <Amaranth> ah, that's why
[06:39] <Amaranth> you need w32codecs
[06:39] <Stormx2> gallonegro__: Try VLC. That can stream.
[06:39] <Amaranth> (which isn't legal to use but no one seems to care)
[06:39] <tobi> hello can somebody help me, i want to know more about the motives of ubuntu
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:39] <reeen> Stormx2:
[06:39] <gallonegro__> thanks again
[06:39] <reeen> command_line {hdparm -q -X66 -d1 -c2 -W1 /dev/hdd}
[06:39] <reeen> this is correct, isn't it ?
[06:40] <Stormx2> reeen: :-\
[06:40] <calamari> hi jandusion
[06:40] <reeen> is there anything wrong with it ?
[06:40] <jandusion> NoUse, ok im done...
[06:40] <Stormx2> reeed: No idea
[06:40] <Amaranth> hrm, it seems the mp3 license fee is only for encoding
[06:40] <jandusion> calamari, hope it works now... and hi calamari
[06:40] <calamari> jandusion: did you set up the password?
[06:40] <Stormx2> Amaranth: Thats why BMP and XMMS support it natively.
[06:41] <Amaranth> yeah
[06:41] <NoUse> jandusion I was going to have you do something different at step 7, which is why I asked you to let me know when you fnished step 7
[06:41] <jandusion> calamari,  yeh
[06:41] <calamari> jandusion: congrats
[06:41] <NoUse> jandusion is it working now?
[06:41] <jandusion> NoUse, oh but i didnt even get to the loggin screen
[06:41] <hcatlin> Alrighty good people out there.... I got myself a question here.... I'm writing some software for a network app... The app uses port 1982 and works fine when attempting to connect from the local host... however, the computer is rejecting port 1982 to any external communcaiton... is there a way to open that port up?
[06:41] <NoUse> jandusion yeah those instructions give you a root terminal
[06:42] <Amaranth> hcatlin: that's a problem with your external modem or router
[06:42] <jandusion> NoUse, ok...
[06:42] <MarcN> hcatlin: perhaps you are only listening on localhost:1982 instead of <any>:1982
[06:43] <calamari> jandusion: try opening a terminal, then type su
[06:43] <calamari> jandusion: then type the password you just set
[06:43] <MarcN> hcatlin: or it could be a iptables filewall.    sudo iptables --list
[06:44] <calamari> jandusion: it should then give you a new prompt
[06:44] <hcatlin> MarcN: I have the listener bound to the actual ip of the machine
[06:44] <jandusion> calamari, nooooooooo i just typed sudo synaptic... and that passwrd and nothing hapend
[06:44] <MarcN> hcatlin: do this:  sudo lsof|grep LISTEN|grep 1982
[06:44] <MarcN> hcatlin: should be  TCP:*:1982 (LISTEN)    on the end of the line
[06:44] <hcatlin> TCP 192.168.1.100:1982 (LISTEN)
[06:44] <calamari> jandusion: yeah.. not ready for that quite yet.. just plain `su'
[06:45] <hcatlin> MarcN: So, that specifies who to accept from, not self identity?
[06:45] <MarcN> hcatlin: compare that with  sudo lsof|grep LISTEN|grep www    (if you have apache running)
[06:45] <hcatlin> Yeah, its *
[06:46] <jandusion> calamari, su: Authentication failure
[06:46] <MarcN> hcatlin: you want that.
[06:46] <NoUse> jandusion follow those instructions again and for step 8 run 'passwd' without a username and type password, this will enable your root account
[06:46] <jandusion> calamari, and yes iv tryed it 10 times now
[06:46] <calamari> nouse: ahh.. that's what it is.. thanks
[06:46] <tmjb> fstab ntfs this should be default for windows part in fstab      ntfs    user,noauto,umask=00000    0     0
[06:47] <hcatlin> MarcN: YES YOU ROCK!
[06:47] <Stormx2> I want track 7.
[06:47] <Stormx2> :(
[06:47] <jandusion> NoUse,  then just passwd "my pass"
[06:47] <hcatlin> MarcN: Seriously thanks man... I thought it was who I identified myself as... whoops!
[06:47] <calamari> jandusion: just passwd by itself
[06:47] <Stormx2> Serpentine crashes when it tries to rip, and i'm not even going to begin with gRip
[06:47] <jandusion> calamari, ok
[06:47] <NoUse> jandusion type passwd, press enter, you will be prompted for root's password, enter something you will remember
[06:47] <MarcN> hcatlin: sometimes you want to do that, usually not though.
[06:48] <jandusion> NoUse, ok im going in
[06:48] <hcatlin> MarcN: Well, I def need this to be accessible by anyone.
[06:48] <jandusion> calamari, c ya in a minute
[06:48] <calamari> jandusion: have fun :)
[06:48] <hcatlin> MarcN: I would pass a token, but unfortunately I'm not on a token ring network....
[06:49] <hcatlin> {high hat!}
[06:49] <Stormx2> So what is ubuntu going to do for christmas then?
[06:49] <soundray> Anyone here familiar with Antec cases?
[06:49] <MarcN> hcatlin: /me remembers studying token ring in college.  Before the whole network protocol stack wars were settled.
[06:50] <Stormx2> calamari: Whats wrong with smeg?
[06:50] <hcatlin> MarcN: thank god they lost....
[06:50] <MarcN> hcatlin: DECnet, etc
[06:50] <calamari> Stormx2: lots of things.. I can list :)
[06:50] <soccer> hello
[06:51] <Stormx2> calamari: Listening ;-)
[06:51] <Amaranth> win98 style? you mean browsing things like they're files?
[06:51] <Stormx2> Haha wouldn't it be great if microsoft announched Vista is going to be open source hehe.
[06:51] <Amaranth> calamari: Can I see that list?
[06:52] <soccer> I am trying to do some partition work with gparted on the live cd, and it says that 2 operations are pending, is it partitioning it?
[06:52] <Stormx2> Well, my MP3s are ripping faster and no longer skipping
[06:52] <calamari> Stormx2: it's not able to detect my duplicate menu items.  I can't drag and drop items.  I can't delete items, I can't move around items with my mouse, it's not combined with the menu itself (separate app basically), so I couldn't just drag an icon onto the menu, then drag the icon where I wanted it to be, couldn't right click an icon and reanem , delete, etc
[06:52] <MarcN> Stormx2: impossible.  Too much licensed code in the code base I'd bet you.
[06:52] <calamari> Stormx2: basically, standard start menu editing procedures for win 98/xp
[06:53] <Amaranth> calamari: integration with the menu is dependant on a 5000 line library getting converted to C _and_ someone writing a completely new GtkMenu widget
[06:53] <soccer> Does anyone have expireince with gparted?
[06:53] <Stormx2> MarcN: My friend has a friend who works in the microsoft dev team. Rumour is the kernel is based of the unix kernel.
[06:53] <Amaranth> calamari: You can drag-and-drop items, you can only delete items you created (the others are root items).
[06:53] <soccer> because I need some help with it
[06:53] <NoUse> Stormx2 yeah thats what I heard
[06:53] <Stormx2> NoUse: Really?
[06:53] <MarcN> Stormx2: which 'unix' kernel?
[06:53] <NoUse> Stormx2 yeah
[06:53] <Stormx2> No idea ;-)
[06:53] <soccer> is bur[n] er here?
[06:53] <Amaranth> Stormx2: No. The NT kernel was written by a group of developers microsoft hired that has also created VMS.
[06:54] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: how did you fix your cd ripping?
[06:54] <bur[n] er> soccer: what's wrong
[06:54] <Stormx2> bur[n] er: I used my slower cd drive, that rips quicker >.>
[06:54] <calamari> Amaranth: I don't mean to diss your smeg work.. you gave us something when there was nothing in hoary :)
[06:54] <soccer> bur[n] er: it says 2 operations are pending...is that normal?
[06:54] <MarcN> Amaranth: /me worked in the VMS group 1987-93ish.
[06:54] <Amaranth> Stormx2: The NT kernel is also one of the best (if not _the_ best) in existance.
[06:54] <Stormx2> 5x still isn't great but its better than 0.5x and they don't skip. Its about the same i get on winblows
[06:54] <Amaranth> calamari: Most of your issues are because you're using hoary.
[06:54] <calamari> Amaranth: actually I'm in breezy
[06:54] <bur[n] er> soccer: until you hit apply... sure
[06:55] <Stormx2> Distropwn'd
[06:55] <MarcN> Amaranth: FWIW the VMS kernel is very good.  Course, most of what you see is not the kernel.  GUI, libs, services, apps...
[06:55] <soccer> bur[n] er: ah, thats what i was missing
[06:55] <Amaranth> calamari: Then most of your issues are non-existant. You can drag-and-drop to reorder, move, etc.
[06:55] <snausages> hey all, my floppy won't mount when I double-click on Floppy Drive
[06:55] <Amaranth> !tell calamari about alacarte
[06:55] <MarcN> Amaranth: and written in BLISS-32
[06:55] <calamari> Amaranth: I'm just hoping for a nicely integrated menu editor .. or I'd like the old warty style .. that worked
[06:55] <Stormx2> What was the warty one like?
[06:55] <Stormx2> What came before warty?
[06:55] <Amaranth> calamari: It didn't really work but it pretended it did. That was the old menu system.
[06:56] <soccer> bur[n] er: sorry for the noob questions, but where is the apply button?
[06:56] <Amaranth> nothing came before warty
[06:56] <bur[n] er> debian came before warty ;)
[06:56] <Urthmover> well light was first
[06:56] <Stormx2> But isn't warty v3?
[06:56] <Stormx2> As breezy is v5?
[06:56] <slept> snausages, is the disk formated ?
[06:56] <bur[n] er> Stormx2: teh version is based on year
[06:56] <calamari> Amaranth: it worked great.. it was win95 style, but it was quick & easy
[06:56] <bur[n] er> and month
[06:56] <Amaranth> Stormx2: No, the "version numbers" are Y.MM
[06:56] <Stormx2> ohh!
[06:56] <Stormx2> ;D
[06:56] <Amaranth> calamari: Trust me, it didn't really work. :P
[06:56] <snausages> slept, i'm not sure. i just get the following message, "Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume"
[06:56] <calamari> Amaranth: hehehe
[06:56] <snausages> how would i format it if it isn't.
[06:56] <jandusion> NoUse, wasnt abble to sett a new password with just pressing passwd
[06:57] <calamari> Amaranth: whats the library that needs to be ported ?
[06:57] <NoUse> jandusion what error did you get?
[06:57] <Amaranth> calamari: pyxdg
[06:57] <soccer> does anyone know where the apply button is in gparted?
[06:57] <calamari> lol, python?  no wonder the start menu takes so long to open
[06:57] <Amaranth> calamari: after that someone needs to either write a gnome-vfs plugin to get warty style editing or create an entirely new widget to replace GtkMenu to get inline editing.
[06:58] <Amaranth> calamari: the menu isn't python, the editor is
[06:58] <slept> snausages, should there be sth on the disk ? if not you can do a mkfs.whatyoulike /dev/fd0
[06:58] <Amaranth> calamari: the menu has libgnome-menu, but it sucks
[06:58] <calamari> I wonder how mhard it'd be to replace GtkMenu
[06:58] <Amaranth> calamari: pyxdg handles everything for me and actually, well, works
[06:58] <jsz> I'm compiling the Austhex IRCD
[06:59] <jandusion> autirisation something busy
[06:59] <Amaranth> calamari: 6 months of solid work if you've never made a widget before, I'd guess.
[06:59] <calamari> Amaranth: cool.. is there a way to run things as root so I can delete the duplicated entries ?
[06:59] <jandusion> NoUse,  autirisation something busy
[06:59] <Amaranth> calamari: duplicated?
[06:59] <Amaranth> calamari: Do they show up duplicated in alacarte?
[06:59] <NoUse> jandusion I don't know what to tell you, you might have to reinstall
[06:59] <calamari> Amaranth: yeah, I have two of everything in Preferences and Administration
[06:59] <calamari> Amaranth: dunno, I'll look
[07:00] <Amaranth> calamari: in alacarte too?
[07:00] <jandusion> NoUse, >(
[07:00] <Amaranth> calamari: otherwise it's a gnome-menus bug (there are lots of these)
[07:00] <calamari> I looked at the menu spec once.. it was an xml nightmare
[07:01] <jandusion> NoUse,  when i reinstall is there something i need to remeber then?
[07:01] <Amaranth> yep
[07:01] <Amaranth> that's why pyxdg is a large complicated library
[07:01] <NoUse> jandusion no just do a normal installation
[07:01] <Amaranth> and it takes advantage of some things you can't do in C
[07:01] <calamari> seems like it'd be better to break spec and just create something simple fast and working
[07:02] <jandusion> NoUse, when i do a normal install... can i make it install on th D drive and not the c drive
[07:02] <NoUse> jandusion yeah you should be able to
[07:02] <NoUse> jandusion but Linux doesn't refer to them as C and D drives
[07:02] <german> Hello
[07:02] <soccer> bur[n] er: do you know where the apply button is in gparted (since you use it) if I am annoying you, just say so, and I will leave
[07:03] <jandusion> NoUse, ok but its 160gb drive and a 200gb drive
[07:03] <bur[n] er> soccer: the little "checkbox" in the toolbar
[07:03] <NoUse> jandusion thats fine, the partitioner should allow you to choose which drive it goes on
[07:03] <hyakuhei> evening all, what do I apt-get for the C man pages, scanf etc
[07:04] <jandusion> NoUse, ok man ty for help so faar.. ill reinstall linux and talk to you again
[07:04] <pluffsy> hello
[07:04] <soccer> bur[n] er: sorry, I didnt have it maxamized, so I couldnt see that
[07:04] <watxutu> alguien me puede ayudar con una duda por favor?
[07:05] <soccer> bur[n] er: UHOH! there is an error
[07:05] <calamari> Amaranth: alacarte shows the dups but does not allow deletion of them
[07:05] <Amaranth> calamari: because you don't own them
[07:06] <calamari> Amaranth: I ran as sudo alacarte
[07:06] <Amaranth> calamari: yeah, alacarte is not designed to run at root
[07:06] <snausages> i just successfully formatted a floppy and I still can't mount it. i get this message: Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[07:06] <usertu> Hello, I've bought a PCI WLAN card for my Ubuntu box which was recognised with the rt2500 module
[07:07] <IcemanV9> !es
[07:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:07] <aet> ubuntu gcc so slow...
[07:07] <usertu> I'd like to ask if I can use the box as a WLAN access point with this card?
[07:07] <_jason> does anyone know how to enable auto-repeating for specific mouse keys?  (or if you know anything else that might point me in the right direction let me know)  Thanks.
[07:07] <holycow> anyone here try sharing folders via smb between two linux machines?
[07:08] <holycow> actually
[07:08] <pirx> what does it mean when it says multiverse in sources.list?
[07:08] <dmoyne> hello! : before swiching eventually to breezy 64 bits I want to install dosemu that does not exist in the breezy package ; I loaded the source to compile it but I got an error message ; can this be due to a source not designed to be compiled in 64 bit executable ?
[07:08] <Juhaz> usertu, the current version of rt2500 driver doesn't support softap mode
[07:08] <holycow> the problem is the same, linux or win, whenever client tries to access/write to share they cannot login
[07:08] <holycow> anyone run into that?
[07:08] <Juhaz> usertu, it's supposedly in the works, for the future, though
[07:08] <usertu> Juhaz, this means I cannot setup DHCP and NAT on that card?
[07:08] <gsnedders> what's the default configure options for php4?
[07:09] <calamari> Amaranth: well, I was able to uncheck them to make them hiddle, so that hid the dups.. thanks :)
[07:09] <Juhaz> usertu, no, you can setup them just fine
[07:09] <usertu> Juhaz, then what the heck is AP mode?
[07:09] <soccer> bur[n] er: surely this isnt right? http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4635
[07:09] <rel> Does anyone know how to configure Yaboot so that OSX is the default instead of Breezy?
[07:10] <Juhaz> usertu, something that allows the card to work as an access point instead of just in ad-hoc mode
[07:10] <RuffianSoldier> hey - i just reinstalled hoary - is it safe to upgrade to breezy???
[07:10] <hyakuhei> RuffianSoldier: should be
[07:10] <RuffianSoldier> awesome
[07:10] <IcemanV9> RuffianSoldier: yes
[07:10] <pluffsy> RuffianSoldier, I had a lot of problems. but most seem to be fine
[07:10] <xrenmilay> has anyone had problems running blender with  ATI rage 128 Pro RT card?
[07:10] <Juhaz> usertu, it's no big deal, if you need to ask, forget I ever mentioned it :)
[07:11] <ubuntu> gonococos!!!
[07:11] <ubuntu> jhonny be good
[07:11] <RuffianSoldier> btw - i forget how to switch to universe repose in synaptic
[07:11] <calamari> I might look into making my own panel app someday.. then I could ignore silly gnome changes like them taking away the run option
[07:11] <usertu> Juhaz, but if I set up DHCP/NAT to that device my notebook can connect to my box automagically?
[07:11] <ubuntu> calamari cabecenalga
[07:12] <ubuntu> hi yvone
[07:12] <rel> Does anyone know how to configure Yaboot so that OSX is the default boot instead of Breezy?
[07:12] <ubuntu> were your front?
[07:12] <RuffianSoldier> hey ubuntu - your name isnt registered is it? if it isnt - i registered it a year ago
[07:12] <ceej> i've got a big problem with my Synaptic package manager ;/
[07:12] <RuffianSoldier> aaah he left
[07:12] <soccer> ubnutu: what laguage do you speak?
[07:12] <soccer> ubuntu: what language do you speak?
[07:12] <Juhaz> usertu, sure. typing this on rt2500 nat server in fact.
[07:12] <ceej> got about 4 of these warnings when i load it up W: Couldn't stat source package list http://antesis.freecontrib.org breezy/free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists
[07:12] <usertu> Juhaz, wow :)
[07:13] <pluffsy> rel: have you googled for it? long time since I did but I think it was rather logic
[07:13] <usertu> Juhaz, thank you very much.
[07:13] <usertu> Bye
[07:13] <rel> pluffsy, I was just doing that :)
[07:14] <Suoli> What does Error code 11 signify for in Ubuntu 5.10?
[07:14] <soccer> bur[n] er: I think gparted froze in the middle of its partition work :(
[07:14] <Suoli> I this error message when my x server tries to turn on
[07:14] <ceej> can anyone help?
[07:14] <marlun> Is the bar in Yelp that lets you go to the previous page or the next one supposed to be added in the middle of the page and somtimes even over text so you can't read it?
[07:14] <xrenmilay> is it possible to get help here? :(
[07:14] <Suoli> *get
[07:15] <marlun> Hmmm, now for some reason it's at the bottom again :)
[07:15] <bigdawg> Can anybody help me with a breezy kernel install problem with a SATA RAID adapter (SIL3112 chipset)?
[07:15] <marlun> Guess it heard me complaining, good feature.
[07:15] <RuffianSoldier> i can still upgrade to breezy by apt-get dist-upgrade right?
[07:15] <reeen> heya
[07:16] <soccer> bur[n] er: is it safe to force quit gparted because it froze, although it already started it's partition work?
[07:16] <reeen> i have a problem. i've got crappy sounds with the sound juicer when i want to playback a cd
[07:16] <xrenmilay> where can I get to most current libGL for ubuntu?
[07:16] <shaji> hi all
[07:17] <NoUse> xrenmilay should already be installed
[07:17] <bur[n] er> soccer: i wouldn't
[07:17] <Suoli> and why doesn't apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx work?
[07:17] <Answer> You know in grub it has a memtest option?  How can I launch that from the livecd?
[07:17] <bur[n] er> soccer: you're not resizing or manipulating a mounted drive right?
[07:17] <shaji> i am upgrading my ubuntu 5.04 to 5.10
[07:17] <shaji> by synaptic
[07:17] <shaji> will it work?
[07:17] <bur[n] er> shaji: sure
[07:17] <soccer> bur[n] er: yes...and creating a new one
[07:17] <shaji> wat are the new additions
[07:17] <Answer> !tell shaji about upgrade2breezy
[07:17] <marlun> Which web-based radio stations can I listen to with ubuntu and how?
[07:18] <soccer> bur[n] er: this is what it looks like: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4635
[07:18] <bur[n] er> marlun: get streamtuner
[07:18] <Answer> You know in grub it has a memtest option?  How can I launch that from the livecd?
[07:18] <marlun> The ones I listen to in windos usually require microsoft media player =/
[07:18] <xrenmilay> NoUse: I have it installed but blender for some reason doesn't like it
[07:18] <shaji> Wat are the additions
[07:18] <kronicdreamer> why is pple tellin me that ubuntu sux when on distro watch its #1 by 1000
[07:18] <marlun> bur[n] er, streamhunter, ok =) thanks
[07:18] <shaji> and wat all bugs are fixed?
[07:18] <bur[n] er> marlun: u can get mplayer's mozilla plugin for the microsoft media player things... also look for w32codecs
[07:18] <bur[n] er> !w32codecs
[07:18] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was binary only codecs that some call evil. One possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[07:18] <soccer> kronicdreamer: who said ubuntu sux?
[07:19] <NoUse> xrenmilay what kind of video card od you have?
[07:19] <reeen> i have a problem. i've got crappy sounds with the sound juicer when i want to playback a cd
[07:19] <Answer> shaji, read the msg from ubotu and look at that link.  there are too many changes to list here
[07:19] <Answer> You know in grub it has a memtest option?  How can I launch that from the livecd?
[07:19] <kronicdreamer> everyone i asked lol
[07:19] <bur[n] er> soccer: got me on that gparted thing... try killin it :)
[07:19] <shaji> ok
[07:19] <bur[n] er> reeen: turned dma on?
[07:19] <reeen> yes i have
[07:19] <soccer> reeen: no need to ask more then once, if anyone knows, they will answer
[07:19] <reeen> xine plays them well
[07:19] <german> hi, can anyone help me
[07:19] <soccer> bur[n] er: killing it...how?
[07:19] <marlun> bur[n] er, ok, I'll look for that :)
[07:19] <kronicdreamer> does the cd you can get thru shipit totally install?
[07:20] <marlun> bur[n] er, in the package manager?
[07:20] <Answer> kronicdreamer, yes the install cd is shipped with shipit
[07:20] <german> i just want to have num lock on when starting X
[07:20] <bigdawg> Does anyone here have any custom kernel install experience here?
[07:20] <kronicdreamer> thats the whole thing?
[07:20] <trappist> german: google for numlockx
[07:20] <kronicdreamer> cuz i am wantin to get rid of this damn windows it SUXXXXXX
[07:20] <german> thanks
[07:20] <Answer> kronicdreamer, it will install the base package then download more from the internet, but that is optional.
[07:20] <german> thanks trappist
[07:21] <Answer> german, numlock is usually set in your system bios
[07:21] <kronicdreamer> i was just wantin to make sure its good to go
[07:21] <xrenmilay> NoUse: I have I have an ATI Rage 128 Pro RT
[07:21] <Answer> kronicdreamer, you can download the install cd and see for yourself...
[07:21] <welp> how long does ubuntu take to install?
[07:21] <soccer> bur[n] er: is killing the same thing as force quit?
[07:21] <kronicdreamer> i dont have a burner that works
[07:21] <xrenmilay> I set my pyton2.3 environment variables
[07:21] <kronicdreamer> and i want it on a seperate pc
[07:22] <Answer> welp, less than half an hour if you know what you're doing
[07:22] <welp> Answer, okies
[07:22] <welp> thankies
[07:22] <german> Answer, but i have both Win and ubuntu, and in windowz the numlock key is on
[07:22] <welp> :P
[07:22] <xrenmilay> Blender go a little futher. intead of a quick blender gray screen It actually flickers
[07:22] <bigdawg> quit
[07:22] <Answer> welp, downloading all the other packages from the internet can take longer  depending on what you select
[07:22] <kronicdreamer> how you set it up to boot over my windows XP Home?
[07:22] <welp> Answer, okies, thankies
[07:22] <Answer> german, maybe windows sets it.  on most of my computers you can set the numlock on or off in the bios
[07:23] <welp> :D
[07:23] <Kibou> windows sets the numlock
[07:23] <marlun> bur[n] er, mozilla-mplayer <- that one? =)
[07:23] <xrenmilay> libGl complains about graphix memory
[07:23] <Kibou> gnome can't do it itself
[07:23] <Kibou> it needs numlockx
[07:23] <xrenmilay> then a final segmentation error
[07:23] <Answer> kronicdreamer, resize the windows partition so you have enough free space, then install ubuntu and it will recognize it and put it in the grub boot loader
[07:23] <Kibou> kde has it's own option for it
[07:24] <Answer> How can I launch memtest from the LiveCD ?
[07:24] <kronicdreamer> can i create another portion and install while windows is up? or do i havta burn on a CD?
[07:24] <Answer> kronicdreamer, I recommend burning it on a cd.  I tried what you are saying and failed
[07:24] <kronicdreamer> i have the 4 CDs in the mail
[07:24] <kronicdreamer> you know how long they take to get here?
[07:25] <xrenmilay> NoUse: On the video card is 32 megs
[07:25] <DShepherd> hey
[07:25] <Answer> kronicdreamer, 5-7 business days for ground shipping in the continental usa
[07:25] <emgee> Hey folks! Where do I find a NickServ admin around here?
[07:25] <kronicdreamer> ohh ok kickass
[07:25] <NoUse> xrenmilay run this in a terminal 'glxinfo | grep direct'
[07:25] <Answer> emgee, /msg nickserv help
[07:25] <kronicdreamer> only got a day or 2 left
[07:26] <soccer> bur[n] er: now it says that the new partition I created (/dev/hda3) is unknown!?!?!?!?
[07:26] <kronicdreamer> bbl
[07:26] <DShepherd> emgee: NickServ*
[07:26] <Answer> How can I launch memtest from the LiveCD ?
[07:26] <NeonLightning> does anyone use the liveboot i can't seem to find my hd in /mnt/ or in places
[07:26] <Answer> NeonLightning, you have to mount /dev/hda1
[07:26] <emgee> Answer, no such info there
[07:27] <Cronic> I need some help with my video settings. I have an intel onboard video card 82845G and have tried every driver I can think of, everytime I use startx I get "Fatal server error: No screens found." - Can anyone help me?
[07:27] <emgee> DShepherd, you mean their nicks are nickserv-something?
[07:27] <NeonLightning> ok so i have to mount all my drives
[07:27] <NeonLightning> because i can't remember witch one was my large drive that i have the files i need on
[07:27] <reeen> does anyone of you have experience with skype ?
[07:27] <reeen> its weird because it takes about one minute for the login screen to come up
[07:27] <DShepherd> emgee: /msg Nickserv help <-- type that. case matters
[07:27] <HappyFool> Answer: at the boot screen, type   memtest<enter>
[07:28] <Cronic> Anyone available to help me with X?
[07:28] <Answer> HappyFool, sweet I knew if i asked enough times hehehe
[07:28] <HappyFool> Answer: or press F1 (F2 ... ) for more info
[07:28] <emgee> DShepherd, I have, and all I get is a list of commands. I need help reobtaining my password!
[07:28] <kronicdreamr|bbl> Ubuntu = w/ Gnome and Kubutu = KDE, Right?
[07:28] <Answer> HappyFool, I looked at F1, F2, F3 etc but I did not see any memtest
[07:28] <Answer> kronicdreamr|bbl, yes.
[07:28] <kronicdreamr|bbl> ok
[07:29] <Answer> emgee, did you read the list of the help commands??
[07:29] <xrenmilay> NoUse:  when are you on usually?
[07:29] <kronicdreamr|bbl> ill quit bothering yall for now :P
[07:29] <calamari> Amaranth: I'd need to create a new gtk component to handle the dragging, wouldn't I...
[07:29] <emgee> Answer, yes...
[07:29] <Cronic> I need some help with my video settings. I have an intel onboard video card 82845G and have tried every driver I can think of, everytime I use startx I get "Fatal server error: No screens found." - Can anyone help?
[07:29] <HappyFool> Answer: hmm. that's for the breezy live cd -- maybe the others are different
[07:29] <DShepherd> emgee: oh... I dont know how
[07:29] <emgee> ok
[07:29] <Amaranth> calamari: That's why I said you need to design a replacement for the GtkMenu widget
[07:29] <NeonLightning> every time i try and run firefox off the cd i get segmentation fault
[07:29] <HappyFool> Answer: i know that the warty (ubuntu 4.10) livecd is very different
[07:29] <Cronic> NeonLightning: Sounds like it wasn't built for your kernel?
[07:30] <Answer> HappyFool, ohh ok i'll get the new livecd
[07:30] <calamari> Amaranth: guess that didn't fully sink in last time :)  thanks
[07:30] <soccer> bur[n] er: do you think that my hard drive could have some sort of protection against partitioning, because it doesnt want to resize!
[07:30] <NeonLightning> i'm runnin off the live cd cronic
[07:31] <xrenmilay> NoUse: Im currently away from my linux box.. I was tryingt o find out if there is a quick fix or if some one had some issues. I guess I should be asking for infomation when I am behind the box huh?
[07:31] <DShepherd> NeonLightning: it may be that a part of your cd is bad
[07:31] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Whats up?
[07:32] <NeonLightning> damn both times i've ordered the cd's i get about 1 out of every 4 or 5 that works fine
[07:32] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: is here...just need help helping out
[07:32] <xrenmilay> NoUse:  I will give it shot when I get home. What should I be looking for?
[07:32] <Cronic> I need some help with my video settings. I have an intel onboard video card 82845G and have tried every driver I can think of, everytime I use startx I get "Fatal server error: No screens found."
[07:33] <christian_> i have got big problems with the wpa_supplicant and ubuntu breezy
[07:33] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Cool. ny particualr issues?
[07:33] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: generally no.
[07:33] <DaSkreech> aight
[07:33] <anavim> if #ubuntu-offtopic the only place for non-support related ubuntu chat?
[07:33] <sambagirl> anyone here remember my issues of yesterday?
[07:34] <sambagirl> i am trying to open this http://192.168.0.100/html/openemr-2.8.0/setup.php
[07:34] <sambagirl> well when i open it it pops up with dialog box asking if i want to save or execute with what/
[07:34] <sambagirl> ?
[07:34] <anavim> er, I mean, is..
[07:34] <sambagirl>  i dont understand.
[07:34] <DaSkreech> For Ubuntu Yeah :-)
[07:34] <HEFFA> woooo
[07:35] <DShepherd> anavim: officially yes
[07:35] <marlun> I've installed streamtuner which also seemed to install XMMS (if it wasn't allready there) but I get no sound out of XMMS, I know the sound is working because the general ubuntu sounds are working.
[07:36] <welp> how do i install wine?
[07:36] <anavim> DShepherd, why do you say officially?  Does that mean you know of an unofficial ubuntu chat channel?
[07:36] <marlun> Sorry no question there, but ofcourse my question is how to fix it :)
[07:36] <Xappe> marlun: check if you can change the xmms output to ESD
[07:36] <DaSkreech> anavim: There are unofficial chat rooms all over just not aasociated with Ubuntu
[07:36] <Cronic> I need some help with my video settings. I have an intel onboard video card 82845G and have tried every driver I can think of, everytime I use startx I get "Fatal server error: No screens found."
[07:37] <DShepherd> anavim: unofficially u can talk about ubuntu anywhere :)
[07:37] <DaSkreech> anavim: try /ist
[07:37] <Cronic> I've never had so much trouble with X until today
[07:37] <Cronic> Jeez
[07:37] <DShepherd> anavim: that should be /list
[07:37] <watxutu> #ubuntu_es
[07:37] <anavim> ok, thx :)
[07:37] <NeonLightning> using the liveboot cd where would be the mount point of my usbdisk
[07:38] <marlun> Xappe, In Preferences and Output plugin I have: Alsa, Disk Writer Plugin, eSound output plugin and OSS Driver.
[07:38] <DShepherd> NeonLightning: /media
[07:38] <Xappe> marlun: then try eSound (ESD)
[07:38] <Cronic> No one up for helping resolve an X issue? :(
[07:39] <NeonLightning> why won't it let me make a folder with a name all caps it keeps making it lowercase
[07:39] <marlun> Xappe, Ah! I tried it before but never restarted the XMMS, but now I did and it worked =)
[07:39] <Xappe> marlun: :)
[07:39] <marlun> Xappe, thanks! at last I've got music in ubuntu :)
[07:39] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Do you have stumbleupon?
[07:39] <Cronic> I need some help with my video settings. I have an intel onboard video card 82845G and have tried every driver I can think of, everytime I use startx I get "Fatal server error: No screens found."
[07:39] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: sure why wouldnt I :)
[07:39] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Name?
[07:40] <DShepherd> oh you mean an account
[07:40] <DShepherd> ?
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[07:40] <DaSkreech> I'm skreech
[07:40] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: nope I dont....well i did...but that was along time ago...I guess I goign to have to do another
[07:41] <DaSkreech> Did you make a name or did you just have a number?
[07:41] <orbx> does anyone know how to make the ubuntu apache server live when behind a router?
[07:41] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: made a name
[07:41] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Remember it?
[07:41] <robotgeek> orbx: you would have to forward port 80
[07:41] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: maybe sprite
[07:41] <kinkoblast> How would I go about changing the x server's color depth?
[07:42] <orbx> robotgeek: so it would ne http://myip:80
[07:42] <robotgeek> orbx: www.portforward.com
[07:42] <NeonLightning> is there a way to open rar files using the liveboot
[07:42] <jino__> hi all
[07:42] <ni1s> orbx: Http defaults to 80, www.free6.com == www.free6.com:60
[07:43] <DaSkreech> NeonLightning: You'll have to apt-get unrar
[07:43] <jino__> am installing the downloaded update throgh synaptic
[07:43] <Cronic> sigh I need some help :(
[07:43] <orbx> nils: ok i will try that
[07:43] <NeonLightning> when i type apt and press tab it doesn't bring up anything
[07:43] <jino__> i see a message like locale not suppoted by c library
[07:43] <paolob> Hi guys! I have a ltsp server with debian testing, and I want to migrate it to edubuntu. Will it be possible? Is there any tutorial somewhere?
[07:43] <IcemanV9> kinkoblast: look for DefaultColorDepth in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:43] <jino__> Will that be an issue?
[07:43] <NeonLightning> nm it works
[07:43] <ni1s> orbx: no, you need to set your router to forward port 80 to your computer
[07:44] <ni1s> orbx: What router do you have?
[07:44] <kinkoblast> IcemanV9: I'll try that when I get home (I forgot to install ssh on my system so I'm using a friends)
[07:44] <orbx> nils: i don't know what type of router i have
[07:44] <NeonLightning> E: Invalid operation unrar
[07:44] <jino__> Seveas , i need help updating my system to 5.10
[07:44] <robotgeek> NeonLightning: apt-get install unrar
[07:44] <orbx> nils: its set up on different computer with windows
[07:44] <ni1s> orbx: try in your browser to go to 192.168.0.1
[07:44] <Seveas> !tell jino about breezy
[07:44] <NeonLightning> ahh ok thanks
[07:44] <Seveas> !tell jino__ about breezy
[07:44] <jino__> am getting a message like locale not supported
[07:45] <DShepherd> NeonLightning: sudo apt-get install unrar
[07:45] <robotgeek> jino__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[07:45] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: ah well guess it was a really long time ago :)
[07:45] <NeonLightning> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[07:45] <Seveas> jino__, during the upgrade that message can be ignored
[07:45] <Seveas> NeonLightning, unrar-nonfree (enable multiverse)
[07:45] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: found it?
[07:45] <DaSkreech> NeonLightning: It would be in multiverse
[07:45] <NeonLightning> how do i do so on the liveboot
[07:45] <jino__> Seveas , SO i can expect that to work well ..Can i?
[07:45] <ni1s> orbx: You can run dhclient from a terminal and see where you get your IP from
[07:46] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell NeonLightning about repos
[07:46] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: http://sprite.stumbleupon.com/
[07:46] <welp> how come, i added the repositry for wine as on: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb but wine doesn't appear in the package list?
[07:46] <orbx> nils: no that didn't work, thats not my IP
[07:46] <welp> i'm in ubuntu
[07:46] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: :)
[07:46] <orbx> nils: its 192.168.1.102
[07:46] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Look when he joined
[07:46] <ni1s> orbx: So your routers IP is porbably 192.168.0.1
[07:47] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: I dont think that's me
[07:47] <DaSkreech> Me either
[07:47] <ni1s> orbx: or try dhclient
[07:47] <Cronic> Once I upgrade my kernel source, how do I get grub to see the new kernel/
[07:47] <Cronic> ?
[07:47] <ni1s> Cronic: after you compile it?
[07:48] <orbx> nils: permission denied..
[07:48] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: If you need me ping me I'm back at the grind
[07:48] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: joing now
[07:48] <Cronic> yes
[07:48] <Cronic> After it's compiled
[07:48] <Seveas> jino__, yes
[07:48] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: ok kool
[07:48] <ni1s> orbx: you need the router username/password
[07:48] <Cronic> I used to make zlilo
[07:48] <Cronic> but what now?
[07:48] <YeTr2> I'm having all kinds of trouble installing the nvidia module. If it isn't locking up the computer, it's complaining about version mismatch between 7174 & 7667
[07:49] <NoUse> YeTr2 how did you install the driver?
[07:49] <NeonLightning> um i can't goto that site because both mozilla and firefox give segmentation faults
[07:49] <Cronic> NeonLightning: does anything else give a seg fault?
[07:49] <paolob> Guys, what about migrating to edubuntu from testing now?
[07:49] <Cronic> it might be a hardware issue.
[07:50] <YeTr2> w/ apt
[07:50] <NeonLightning> not that i've come across on this live cd but i haven't used many of the progs but i do sometimes get it when using mandrake
[07:50] <NeonLightning> i just need it long enough to unrar one file so i can stick it on my psp
[07:50] <Cronic> It sounds like a memory error or something hardware
[07:51] <Red-Sox> hi
[07:51] <ni1s> hello
[07:51] <NeonLightning> well i'm runnin a celeron so its a shot cpu from birth
[07:51] <nrunge> Is it reccomended to upgrade from 4.05 to 4.10? If so then how do I do that?
[07:52] <NoUse> !tell nrunge about breezy
[07:52] <Cronic> What package holds types.h?
[07:53] <trappist> Cronic: apt-file search types.h
[07:53] <Cronic> or better yet, the kernel headers
[07:53] <trappist> Cronic: linux-headers
[07:53] <Cronic> thanks
[07:54] <nrunge> What version of the Nvidia drivers is currently in the Breezy repositories?
[07:54] <Red-Sox> I dont remember who it was, trappist, i think, anyway, we where talking and we declared that i needed something (but I dont remember what it was) for my sound. I'm very descriptive eh? Anyway, it had to do with my sound card, it could only play sound from one program, and he told me to do something, but I dont remember what it was
[07:54] <YeTr2> NoUse: ?
[07:55] <ni1s> trappist: As in the kind of beer? Like Chimay?
[07:55] !lilo:*! Added clarifying and explanatory material to http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[07:55] <aet> Red-Sox: esd
[07:55] <NoUse> YeTr2 I don't know, make sure your sources.list is corrent and try reinstalling those drivers, my nvidia installation was a snap
[07:55] <trappist> ni1s: as in chimay, yes :)
[07:55] <YeTr2> currently have nvidia-glx, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-386, linux-restircted-modules-2.6.12-9-686 nvidia-kernel-common
[07:55] <Red-Sox> aet: no, although that is a problem too, i have to killall esd every time
[07:55] <NoUse> nrunge http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:55] <jandusion> NoUse, yay now it realy works
[07:55] <trappist> Red-Sox: what aet said
[07:56] <NoUse> jandusion thats good
[07:56] <Red-Sox> aet: sorry, you wer right
[07:56] <jandusion> NoUse, help me install skype plz
[07:56] <Cronic> I suck at X
[07:56] <Cronic> :(
[07:56] <Cronic> It just wont freaking work
[07:56] <ni1s> trappist: My all time favorite beer! It's nice to see someone else enjoy it
[07:56] <NoUse> !tell jandusion about skype
[07:56] <Red-Sox> aet: so...is it fixable?
[07:56] <jandusion> calamari, ty for help man
[07:56] <cristian23> hi
[07:56] <trappist> ni1s: mine too!  I even have wine fridge dedicated to it :)
[07:57] <cristian23> how do i use the multiseat-configurator script for setting up 2 displays?
[07:57] <aet> Red-Sox: id think so
[07:57] <Red-Sox> aet: do you know how?
[07:57] <cristian23> it checks for /etc/multiseat.conf, but i don't have that file
[07:57] <ni1s> trappist: Dosent storing it in the fridge make it too cold? dosnt it lose taste?
[07:57] <Red-Sox> trappist: so you know what I need to do, not how to do it, just what i need to do to fix it?
[07:58] <trappist> ni1s: wine fridges don't get as cold
[07:58] <ni1s> trappist: ah!
[07:58] <welp_ubuntu> i need help.....
[07:58] <trappist> Red-Sox: I know that you need a sound daemon and that gnome's sound daemon is esd, but I don't use gnome
[07:58] <dle> Hi.  How do I get the auto-updater applet running in Breezy?  I have done System->Administration->Update Manager->Preferences->Settings and checked 'Automatically check...'.
[07:58] <welp_ubuntu> trappist, what do you use?
[07:58] <trappist> kde
[07:58] <cristian23> where is specified the sintax of multiseat.conf?
[07:58] <welp_ubuntu> eeeww....
[07:58] <welp_ubuntu> no offence
[07:58] <welp_ubuntu> :P
[07:58] <aet> Red-Sox: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 ?
[07:59] <orbx> can anyone suggest a good C++ IRC server?
[07:59] <LaserJock> what is the difference between vim-gnome2 and vim-gtk?
[07:59] <ni1s> orbx: IRCD maybe, dont know if its in C++, see sourceforge.net and freashmeat
[08:00] <orbx> nils: no i mean a server, as in where you chat about C++
[08:00] <NoUse> orbx then you mean channel
[08:01] <orbx> NoUse: yea
[08:01] <devin__> Can anybody tell me why http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu isn't up now?
[08:01] <NoUse> orbx ##C++
[08:01] <eedge> is there a way I can install KDE just to try it for a while...
[08:01] <DShepherd> orbx: type /list you can find channels there
[08:01] <Red-Sox> trappist: if you want to, but ONLY if you want to, you could please tell me what a sound daemon is
[08:02] <DShepherd> eedge: yes you can. sudo aptitdue install kubuntu-desktop
[08:02] <orbx> NoUse + DShepherd: Thankyou guys
[08:02] <DShepherd> orbx: np
[08:02] <trappist> Red-Sox: it mixes sounds so separate apps can produce sounds at the same time.  decent sound cards do this for you in the hardware, but if you don't have one of those you need software like esd to emulate it.
[08:02] <sewoyl> Red-Sox, probably the evil thing that started talking ads on the internet - they scare me each time I hear them
[08:03] <cristian23> anyone using multiseat?
[08:03] <LaserJock> devin__: us.archive.ubuntu.com work for me
[08:03] <Red-Sox> trappist: my gaming computer has a good sound card, but i too scared to dual boot that expensive machine
[08:03] <miguelanxo> Bye!
[08:04] <Red-Sox> sewoyl: lol
[08:04] <jandusion> NoUse, i get an error message from skype...
[08:04] <LathropWells> ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[08:04] <LathropWells>    and sh RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[08:04] <LathropWells>  don't seem to work what else should i try?
[08:05] <jah_raztah> yeaaa.... i just got the breezy cds int eh mail
[08:05] <jah_raztah> even though it's so late
[08:05] <jah_raztah> that i downloaded them already
[08:05] <mwe> LathropWells: maybe it's not a script
[08:05] <LathropWells> jah_, - sounds great WELCOME!
[08:06] <jandusion> how do i install skype from terminal
[08:06] <mwe> LathropWells: have you tried chmod +x the file and then executing it?
[08:06] <jah_raztah> I'm going to distrobute the breezy cds to as many ppl i can to convert them from xp to breezy
[08:06] <LathropWells> mwe - lol - the instructions are plain, simple, and wrong on the realplayer site. - lol
[08:06] <mwe> I see
[08:06] <jah_raztah> as for the drapper, rather then ordering i'm just gunna download the iso
[08:07] <LathropWells> yes - actually chmod a+x
[08:07] <calamari> I'm trying to open a java jar from the desktop.. this used to work but not anymore.  Any troubleshooting ideas?
[08:07] <ni1s> Dose anyone know of any howtos or docs on speeding up gnome?
[08:07] <LathropWells> mwe - Thank You.
[08:07] <mwe> LathropWells: so it worked?
[08:08] <LathropWells> nah - i'll find a plug-in or something for ram files - lol
[08:08] <mwe> yeah
[08:08] <marlun> Is there any good dvd copying apps for ubuntu?
[08:09] <LathropWells> dvdrip?
[08:09] <jah_raztah> ok, so i did a server install, got gnome and other things e.t.c... but now when i click lock screen nothing happens, is there a package i need tog et for lock screen to work?
[08:09] <Red-Sox> trappist , aet: thank you soooooooooooooo much
[08:10] <marlun> LathropWells, maybe? =) I don't want it to the computer but to another dvd, but I guess maybe you take it to the computer first and then back to another dvd?
[08:10] <LathropWells> acidrip
[08:10] <aet> Red-Sox: np
[08:11] <ni1s> Im bored, is there any cool linux games out there?
[08:11] <AMDXP> gotta reboot brb
[08:11] <aet> ni1s: www.happypenguin.org
[08:11] <marlun> LathropWells, acidrip? ok, for both taking it to the computer and back to the dvd?
[08:11] <ubuntu> !tell ubuntu reps
[08:12] <trappist> ubuntu: /msg ubotu repos
[08:13] <ubuntu> no response
[08:13] <eedge> ubotu doesn't  like you :)
[08:13] <ubotu> eedge: What?
[08:13] <jah_raztah> i did a server install, got gnome and other things e.t.c... but now when i click lock screen nothing happens, is there a package i need to get for lock screen to work? I see the icon under System > Lock Screen
[08:14] <Ethaniel> lol
[08:14] <Ethaniel>  //msg may be nloked no ?
[08:14] <Greeboo> yeah. ubuntu doesn't like me :(
[08:14] <jah_raztah> or do i need to get xscreansavers-gl?
[08:14] <bamboo> hi
[08:14] <Ethaniel> try rather ubotu, question?
[08:14] <jah_raztah> hi bamboo
[08:14] <Ethaniel> ubotu, hi?
[08:14] <ubotu> hi!
[08:14] <bamboo> what's the easiest way to play windows media audio files on ubuntu?
[08:14] <Ethaniel> wincodecs
[08:14] <Ethaniel> :p
[08:15] <jandusion> can any1 help me installs skype via the terminal
[08:15] <jah_raztah> wma files work with mplayer if you have the w32codecs
[08:15] <jah_raztah> and xmms
[08:15] <jjazz> bamboo, you need the marillat w32codecs
[08:15] <jah_raztah> !ubotu tell bamboo about w32codec
[08:16] <bamboo> thanks jah_raztah
[08:16] <bamboo> thanks jjazz
[08:16] <bamboo> thanks Ethaniel
[08:17] <jjazz> Folks, I have a Breezy box here that I put apache2 on.  I apt-getted apache2 and did /etc/init.d/apache2 start, but localhost:80 is refusing connections.  If I do sudo apache2, localhost answers.  What is the correct way to start and stop apache2 in Ubuntu, if not via the script in /etc/init.d?
[08:17] <NoUse> jjazz did you run the init.d script with sudo?
[08:18] <jjazz> NoUse, yes
[08:18] <DShepherd> jandusion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype?highlight=%28skype%29 <-- installing skype
[08:18] <LaserJock> what is the difference between vim-gnome2 and vim-gtk?
[08:18] <NoUse> jjazz did it say it started apache correctly?
[08:18] <Red-Sox> is there a theme for gnome that makes it look like osx?
[08:18] <jjazz> NoUse, the script was silent when I ran it.
[08:19] <nalioth> Red-Sox: visit gnome-look.org
[08:19] <Red-Sox> naloith: okay, thank you!
[08:19] <jjazz> NoUse, the script prints a message if I do 'stop', but not 'start' or 'restart'.  In the case of stop, it tells me it's stopping apache2.
[08:19] <welp_ubuntu> my resolution is wrong, the highest non-widescreen resolution i can have is 1024x784
[08:19] <NoUse> jjazz I would check ps aux or top after running the init.d script and see if apache is running, if it is, check the server
[08:19] <welp_ubuntu> i want more!
[08:19] <NoUse> server logs*
[08:20] <jjazz> NoUse, ps aux | grep apache gives nothing
[08:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell welp_ubuntu about fixres
[08:20] <bamboo> and talking about encodings, what's the best free enconder for ripping my cd collection?
[08:20] <bamboo> (:
[08:20] <jandusion> how do i kill synaptic
[08:20] <NoUse> jjazz check the logs
[08:20] <welp_ubuntu> nalioth, lol thanks
[08:20] <NoUse> jandusion sudo killall synaptic
[08:21] <jandusion> NoUse, ty
[08:21] <DShepherd> jjazz: ps -aux.... did you type that
[08:21] <Blippe> turn off and on two screens witout restarting x, is that possible???
[08:21] <Red-Sox> nalioth: is there a program that pulls themes off that website like gnome art does from art.gnome.org?
[08:21] <DShepherd> jjazz: neva mind...it should matter
[08:21] <YeTr2> ... stupid machine keeps choaking on the nvidia module :(
[08:22] <jjazz> NoUse, the only error in apache's logs concern a 404.  They're from when I started apache2 directly.
[08:22] <DShepherd> shouldnt*
[08:22] <varsendagger> hey
[08:23] <_ted> i would like to install freenx from seveas, but it won't let me in. How do I get the correct freenx packages for breezy?
[08:23] <jjazz> I just don't understand why apache2 would start from the command line, but not the script.  It's weird.
[08:23] <NoUse> jjazz something is broken with that script then
[08:23] <nalioth> Red-Sox: there is, actaully. 'gnome-art'
[08:23] <jjazz> NoUse, yes.  I agree.  OK.  I''m going to purge and reinstall.  See if that helps.
[08:23] <Seveas> _ted, it should let you in now
[08:23] <_ted> thanks!
[08:24] <jah_raztah> anyone know what package i need to get inorder for lock screen to work, this is important casue i have people int he house that like to mess around with linux while i'm away...
[08:24] <jjazz> jah_raztah, xscreensaver
[08:24] <jah_raztah> i have that package already
[08:24] <Ethaniel> there is 2
[08:24] <Ethaniel> but I dunno
[08:24] <jjazz> jah_raztah, then you're good to go
[08:24] <jah_raztah> well i'm going to lock screen and it doesn't work
[08:25] <_ted> im' getting 403 forbidden trying to install freenx from seveas.
[08:25] <dle> jjazz - did you try apache2ctl ?
[08:25] <jjazz> jah_raztah, man xscreensaver
[08:25] <jjazz> dle, Nope.  Not yet.
[08:25] <Seveas> _ted, weird, I just disabled that...
[08:25] <jah_raztah> ok so read that
[08:25] <Ethaniel> with the default install of unbuntu with gnome you can lock the screen
[08:25] <d03boy> anyone know why my java compiler cant find Java/util/Scanner?
[08:26] <Ethaniel> there is java varaible
[08:26] <Ethaniel> to set
[08:26] <Red-Sox> nalioth: AWESOME!
[08:26] <d03boy> oh
[08:26] <orbx> does anyone know how to install flash player 7 on ubuntu, im having some problems
[08:26] <Seveas> _ted, try again
[08:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell orbx about flash
[08:26] <Ethaniel> but can you use other class?
[08:26] <german> hi, guys, do you like the new checklist at starting ubuntu??
[08:26] <d03boy> Ethaniel, i dont know, this is the first thing ive compiled
[08:26] <_ted> seveas, working now!
[08:26] <d03boy> Ethaniel, i haveversion 1.5 installed
[08:26] <d03boy> probably the env varaible
[08:27] <Red-Sox> nalioth: I thought that pulls themes from art.gnome.com?
[08:27] <d03boy> do you know how to set it?
[08:27] <jah_raztah> maybe i needed to remove gnome-screensaver
[08:27] <german> :)
[08:27] <Red-Sox> .org*
[08:27] <nalioth> Red-Sox: i believe it does
[08:27] <Ethaniel> d03boy, you have to set somes variables and to include the class at the beginning of the files
[08:27] <orbx> ubotu: is it possible to install flash player 7?
[08:27] <ubotu> Not a clue, orbx
[08:27] <damg> what does ChipID in xorg.conf do?
[08:27] <Red-Sox> nalioth: and gnome-look.com?
[08:27] <jah_raztah> ok it works like a charm now
[08:27] <orbx> ok thank you ubotu
[08:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell orbx about yourself
[08:27] <NoUse> orbx ubotu is a bot
[08:27] <d03boy> Ethaniel, import you mean?
[08:27] <nalioth> Red-Sox: not sure about gnome-look
[08:27] <d03boy> Ethaniel, it doesnt sound like java problem... it sounds like an ubuntu problem
[08:27] <NoUse> !tell orbx about flash
[08:27] <orbx> NoUse: LOL sorry im dumb
[08:27] <Ethaniel> er ... yes, the key word in java must be import sorry
[08:27] <d03boy> Ethaniel, .. or a problem with how I have it installed
[08:27] <jah_raztah> u need xscreensaver, but u need to make sure u dont have gnome-screensaver install
[08:27] <damg> orbx: ;)
[08:28] <jah_raztah> for lock to work
[08:28] <Red-Sox> nalioth: oooohhh, I was looking at that website
[08:28] <nalioth> orbx: you got a private msg (or two) from ubotu please read it
[08:28] <Red-Sox> what exactly is a gtk2 engine theme?
[08:28] <Mars^> :/ So noonne know how to rum 5.1 sound system?
[08:29] <Ethaniel> d03boy, have you been able to make a *.class without using extern class ? By extern I mean, class you didn't write yourself
[08:30] <d03boy> Ethaniel, i just told you this was the first thing I've tried... I rpobably  just need to set a path varaible, but I dont konw how
[08:30] <marlun> If I install application "a" which depends on "b" and "c", if I later want to uninstall "a" then "b" and "c" will be left behind on the harddrive even when they are not needed right?
[08:30] <welp_ubuntu> what's 256Mb in Kb
[08:30] <welp_ubuntu> ?
[08:30] <Red-Sox> where is '~/.themes' located?
[08:30] <d03boy> welp, multiply by 1024 I think?
[08:30] <orbx> lol thanks nalioth
[08:30] <jjazz> Seveas, as long as you're here... I upgraded to Breezy on this box, and freenx upgraded with it.  nxclient then couldn't connect because it couldn't set a cookie.  I fixed it with cd /usr/X11R6/bin; sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/xauth.  This is something the install script might want to do for users.
[08:30] <dle> marlun: yes.
[08:31] <nalioth> Red-Sox: your home directory is shortcutted using ~/    so ~/.themes is /home/red-sox/.themes
[08:31] <nitrocks> how do i go about chaning the default colors of windows and such in ubuntu?
[08:31] <jjazz> Seveas, I'm not sure if that's a freenx thing or something that got munged in the wider install, but it seemed like the freenx package might be the place to address it.
[08:31] <nitrocks> is there a place where i can go in and edit the themes?
[08:31] <marlun> Well, if I mark something for uninstall in the packet manager which other programs depend on, it won't let me install it without telling me right?
[08:32] <nalioth> marlun: correct
[08:32] <Red-Sox> nalioth: oh, okay, is there a way to skip straight to that folder?
[08:32] <Seveas> jjazz, you should use the nxclient package from my repo on breezy
[08:32] <calamari> nitrocks: afaik you can only edit them by hand, not through a gui.. although you can mix & match major theme components
[08:32] <Blippe> how do i setup one computer to accept two mice (one ps/2 and one serial)?
[08:32] <Slaj_R> Question:  I created a directory on an NTFS partition of an external HD while working in WindowsXP.  Now, from Ubuntu, the directory shows up in Nautilus, but I get a permission denied error, even when using "sudo chmod -r."
[08:32] <nalioth> Red-Sox: open a terminal and type "cd .themes"
[08:32] <d03boy> RainfallHistogramTest.java:1: error:Cannot find class "java/util/Scanner" [JLS 7.5.2 7.6] 
[08:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Red-Sox about cli
[08:32] <jjazz> Seveas, ah.  OK.  I think this box has the nomachine client .deb on it.
[08:32] <nitrocks> calamari: i see.. i only reall wish to change the default colors of all the windows and such to black
[08:32] <Red-Sox> nalioth: thank you
[08:33] <Seveas> that has indeed the error you described :)
[08:33] <nalioth> Slaj_R: it's not a chmod problem, it's a fstab permissions problem
[08:33] <Ethaniel> d03boy, I know there is 2 variables javapath and classpath but I would not been able to tell you exactly how you have to set them
[08:33] <nitrocks> how involved would that be?..
[08:33] <Red-Sox> nalioth: you must be losing your patience with me
[08:33] <calamari> nitrocks: you may be able to download a new theme that looks more like what you want
[08:33] <Slaj_R> oops, never mind.  I needed to use a capital "-R."
[08:33] <jjazz> Seveas, thanks
[08:33] <nitrocks> calamari: any reccomendations in the way of theme repositories?
[08:33] <d03boy> oh, javac seems to be only v1.2
[08:34] <calamari> nitrocks: no.. sorry.. but I bet someone here knows
[08:34] <Ethaniel> lol
[08:34] <Ethaniel> Scanner is from the 5.0
[08:34] <Ethaniel> that could be areason
[08:34] <d03boy> well wtf
[08:34] <nalioth> Red-Sox: my level of patience is only exceeded by the universe
[08:34] <d03boy> how can I upgrade this thing?
[08:34] <leon> Hi all
[08:34] <marlun> nalioth, then when I install "a" which depend on "b" and "c" I can note those two apps/libs and later if I uninstall "a" I can also try to uninstall "b" and "c" to clean up a little? =)
[08:34] <Red-Sox> nalioth: wow, thats a lot o' patience
[08:34] <d03boy> Version 2.1B released 17. July 2002
[08:34] <leon> I can't find emacs-snapshot for breezy. Any ideas?
[08:34] <Ethaniel> you can istall directly from sun
[08:34] <nalioth> marlun: "apt-get clean" may do what you wish
[08:35] <Ethaniel> but with ubuntu I am not sure
[08:35] <Slaj_R> Wait, on second thought, even after chmod 755, I get an I/O error.
[08:35] <nalioth> Slaj_R: as i said, it's a fstab permission problem
[08:35] <anavim> void patience() {patience();}
[08:35] <anavim> :)
[08:35] <Red-Sox> nalioth: uhoh, im not getting something
[08:35] <marlun> nalioth, ah! =) that reminds me that I found a tutorial on apt-get I'll read it :)
[08:35] <Slaj_R> nalioth:  Suggestions?
[08:36] <nalioth> Slaj_R: change your fstab permissions so any user (or just you) can access the partition
[08:36] <german> n #ubuntu-es
[08:36] <orbx> is gplflash, macromedia flash or just a standered flash player?
[08:37] <german> hi, everybody
[08:37] <Slaj_R> nalioth:  I've never done that.  Is there a config file somewhere?
[08:37] <german> i've installed amarok but can't hear any song
[08:37] <german> any ideas??
[08:37] <nalioth> Slaj_R: in your terminal, type "man fstab"
[08:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Slaj_R about cli
[08:38] <wonder> root@home:~# apt-get install mc
[08:38] <wonder> Reading package lists... Done
[08:38] <wonder> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:38] <wonder> E: Couldn't find package mc
[08:38] <wonder> why?
[08:38] <wonder> i have ubuntu amd654
[08:38] <Red-Sox> !tell wonder about paste
[08:38] <wonder> i have ubuntu amd64
[08:38] <nalioth> orbx: gplflash is an open source flash analogue
[08:38] <nalioth> wonder: please dont paste in here, (read channel /topic s when you enter please)
[08:38] <wonder> ok sorry
[08:38] <nalioth> wonder: enable your universe and multiverse repositories and you'll find 1000s more programs
[08:39] <RuffianSoldier> wonder - you prolly arent using universe
[08:39] <Red-Sox> nalioth: hm...i still dont see that folder...
[08:39] <nalioth> Red-Sox: make it
[08:39] <nalioth> Red-Sox: create it
[08:39] <damg> aah, ati driver installer tells me that i have no kernel build environment - what do i need to install?
[08:39] <Red-Sox> nalioth: you say it should be in my home folder eh?
[08:39] <wonder> 10x
[08:39] <nalioth> Red-Sox: did you get the cli msg from ubotu?
[08:39] <Xcerca> what do you do if you forget the su password ?
[08:39] <nalioth> Xcerca: you shouldnt be using su
[08:39] <RuffianSoldier> Xcerca - sudo -s
[08:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Xcerca about root
[08:40] <RuffianSoldier> sudo -s            then your user password
[08:40] <nalioth> Xcerca: the root account is disabled in ubuntu for a reason
[08:40] <Red-Sox> nalioth: yes, yes, it all seemed jibiresh, but  I just skimmed it, so ill read it more carefully right now
[08:40] <Greeboo> ubotu: tell Greebo about root
[08:40] <varsendagger> sudo vi /etc/passwd and delete the x in root:x: blah blah
[08:40] <tobi-wan> hi folks... i just installed xcdroast and it tells me i can't burn dvds unless i install prodvd... didn't find that package, though....
[08:40] <varsendagger> and then sudo su
[08:40] <nalioth> Red-Sox: open a terminal and type "mkdir .themes"
[08:40] <Greeboo> hey, this bot is seriously cool
[08:40] <Red-Sox> nalioth: will do
[08:41] <varsendagger> and run passwd again
[08:41] <varsendagger> -- as su
[08:41] <nalioth> tobi-wan: prodvd is not free software. use k3b
[08:41] <nalioth> Versedtoo: please do not advise that
[08:41] <tobi-wan> nalioth: i'd like to avoid kde-libs in my system :-)
[08:41] <nalioth> Versedtoo: this is ubuntu, not debian or redhat, we use sudo here
[08:41] <Red-Sox> nalioth: but...I need to add something to that folder.
[08:41] <varsendagger> i did like three times
[08:41] <nalioth> tobi-wan: search for prodvd using google
[08:42] <tobi-wan> nalioth: thanks though, i guess i'll try my luck with gnomebaker, i don't want non-free software either :-)
[08:42] <Arjan> hey guysi
[08:42] <nalioth> tobi-wan: prodvd is written by goerg schilling (who wrote cdrecord) and is free for personal use
[08:42] <varsendagger> for everyone involved running any application or doing anything as root is not a wise idea, you will eventually do something that you can't und and it will be sad and you will cry
[08:43] <nick01> I need a program to burn cds with
[08:43] <Moo-> how can I start Gnome after I have connected to my box over SSH and with a local X server? I have only one terminal window open.
[08:43] <nick01> what should I use ?
[08:43] <nalioth> nick01: gnomebacker, graveman or k3b
[08:43] <jsz> nick01, k3b
[08:43] <nick01> in gnome ?
[08:43] <Xcerca> nalioth  what reason is that?
[08:43] <jsz> in anything
[08:43] <blackhat> when I mount NTFS partition its readonly, how can I get write access to it?
[08:44] <void^> boot windows
[08:44] <Moo-> blackhat: you can't
[08:44] <blackhat> yes you can, i did with other distros.
[08:44] <jsz> blackhat, it's not a good idea to write to NTFS and FAT partitions from Linux.
[08:44] <Moo-> blackhat: there is NTFS write support because there are NTFS documents
[08:44] <blackhat> its something with NTFS Write Support in the Kernel
[08:44] <Moo-> blackhat: it's not a real write support
[08:44] <blackhat> =/
[08:44] <Moo-> blackhat: you can only overwrite existing files with a same size
[08:44] <nalioth> Xcerca: to keep new to *nix users from botching their systems too easily, for one
[08:44] <nick01> nalioth, I can't find gnomebacker on freshmeat
[08:44] <tobi-wan> nick01: gnomebaker
[08:45] <erUSUL> jsz, FAT partitions are fine
[08:45] <nalioth> jsz: you can write all you like to fat32 partitions
[08:45] <nick01> k
[08:45] <nalioth> nick01: dont use freshmeat, use synaptic
[08:45] <Arjan> I'm having a problem after upgrading to breezy: X doesn't want to start
[08:45] <tobi-wan> Arjan: any error messages?
[08:45] <Arjan> I have quit an old videocard, Riva TNT2, but it worked fine at hoary
[08:45] <jsz> nick01: use apt-get install gnomebaker
[08:46] <guest> hey, how do I make beagle index MS word files?
[08:46] <Arjan> open /dev/fb1: No such file or directory
[08:46] <Arjan> and that continues til fb7
[08:46] <jsz> Arjan, quite*
[08:46] <erUSUL> Arjan, tail -n 25 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:46] <nick01> jsz, it's not in the repository
[08:46] <Arjan> then, I get NV(0)> Failed to open framebuffer device
[08:46] <jsz> nick01 then edit sources.list or use k3b
[08:46] <jsz> stop winging
[08:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell nick01 about repis
[08:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell nick01 about repos
[08:46] <Red-Sox> nalioth: maybe, to be more spacific, ill show you what i am trying to do http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=13548
[08:47] <nalioth> nick01: read your priv msg from uboto and enable universe and multiverse repos
[08:47] <nalioth> Red-Sox: i'm not up on themes (i'm quite boring)
[08:47] <Arjan> erUSUL, as I just wrote.. those were the significant error messages
[08:47] <Arjan> or basically, all errormessages :(
[08:47] <marlun> how is new programs added to the repository? For example X-Chat 2.6.0 is released but in the repository theres only 2.4.4, are new versions not added untill they are tested some but the community?
[08:47] <nick01> k
[08:47] <Xcerca> what plugings do you need to install for wmv/mpeg/avi ?
[08:47] <Arjan> now using console IRC for the first time :-\
[08:47] <tobi-wan> Arjan: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=205530
[08:48] <Arjan> tobi-wan, hmm, is that lynx-supported?
[08:48] <nalioth> marlun: ubuntu has 'freeze dates' for each version. programs that make it in before that date make it in, and the newer version wait til the next freeze
[08:48] <Red-Sox> nalioth: but, do you know how to do that?
[08:48] <Red-Sox> nalioth: and if you want to, instruct me how to
[08:48] <tobi-wan> Arjan: in short, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change Option "UseFBDev" "true" to "false"
[08:48] <Arjan> hehe, that's not too hard
[08:49] <nalioth> Red-Sox: it looks quite simple to me
[08:49] <tobi-wan> hopefully not :-)
[08:49] <nalioth> Red-Sox: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[08:49] <marlun> nalioth, oh, so the repository is not updated only when new releases of ubuntu is released?
[08:49] <dle> Hi.  How do I get the auto-updater applet running in Breezy?  I have done System->Administration->Update Manager->Preferences->Settings and checked 'Automatically check...'.
[08:49] <^DaVe> any1 know a different windows platform other than cedega/wine?
[08:49] <marlun> nalioth, sorry for that mess of sentence, the "not" was not supposed to be there.
[08:49] <nick01> nalioth, what's multiverse ?
[08:49] <Chousuke> there are only Wine forks.
[08:49] <Chousuke> and reactos
[08:50] <Red-Sox> nalioth...that channel ist working for me.../join kubuntu-offtopic, right?
[08:51] <nalioth> Red-Sox: all irc channels begin with #
[08:51] <Red-Sox> aaaahh
[08:51] <Red-Sox> i forgot
[08:51] <Arjan> tobi-wan, Can i just start X then, or do I need to restart?
[08:51] <nalioth> nick01: multiverse is a repository full of programs
[08:51] <Moo-> are there instructions how to get nice X11 remote Gnome sessions for Ubuntu?
[08:51] <tobi-wan> Arjan: X
[08:51] <nick01> k
[08:52] <Arjan> xinit?
[08:52] <nick01> nalioth, backports from what ?
[08:52] <Arjan> Damn, it's really too long ago
[08:52] <tobi-wan> ^DaVe: you could try bochs, too, though that is more of an x386 emulator, you'd have to completely install windows within it (didn't work for me, but that was app. 1 year ago)
[08:52] <tobi-wan> Arjan: or /etc/init.d/gdm start
[08:52] <nalioth> nick01: backports are not multiverse
[08:52] <tobi-wan> Arjan: but yes, xinit should do
[08:52] <^DaVe> cool ty
[08:52] <nick01> hmm k
[08:52] <yohan> how do i disable the annoying terminal beeps in rxvt?
[08:52] <Arjan> tobi-wan, thanks!!
[08:52] <Arjan> it works again :)
[08:52] <RuffianSoldier> how do I switch to universe in Synaptic? which repos do I edit?
[08:52] <nalioth> nick01: backports are versions of programs that will come with the next version of ubuntu, available on this version
[08:52] <Arjan> off to xchat instead of nirc
[08:52] <freemanen> how do i install jre2?
[08:52] <tobi-wan> Arjan: no prob, my pleasure
[08:53] <freemanen> I have a respotiaress for itbefore but not now
[08:53] <nalioth> ubotu: tell freemanen about java
[08:54] <erUSUL> !tell RuffianSoldier about repos
[08:54] <nick01> nalioth, I only have backports multiverse
[08:54] <marlun> I'm using streamripper, but if I want to close it, how do I close it? =) (I don't want it to keep going in the background as i read "wget" could do)
[08:55] <pirving> tell me, in Breezy did they go away from the debian install that takes hours downloading?
[08:55] <sockpuppe1> is there a new java?
[08:55] <pirving> What is this new OEM install?
[08:55] <Ethaniel> the last is 5.0
[08:55] <Ethaniel> for java
[08:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell nick01 about sources
[08:55] <nalioth> marlun: i dont understand
[08:55] <pirx> how do i make blackbox start a few programs when i log in? i have stuff in .xinitrc but it doesnt seem to exec that
[08:55] <sockpuppe1> Anyone ave an idea when the new xfce gets to repos
[08:56] <pirving> I'm using MEPIS, but I heard maybe they got rid of the Debian Like installer.  MEPIS is a boot disk that just copies over
[08:56] <marlun> nalioth, I think ctrl+c worked :)
[08:56] <NoUse> pirving they still use the debian installer
[08:56] <nalioth> marlun: it usually does
[08:56] <Arjan> so, there I am again..
[08:56] <marlun> :)
[08:56] <dducko> Just a quick question, For a distro update..  Change Sources, apt-get update, and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[08:56] <Arjan> seems like it's still not perfect :(
[08:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dducko about breezy
[08:57] <nick01> !easysource
[08:57] <ubotu> from memory, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:57] <Arjan> mozilla doesn't give me any fonts, although other apps look okay
[08:57] <Ethan> pirx, look at documentation :p fo fb it is startup
[08:57] <madmike> anyone have an idea how to migration old mail from evolution -> thunderbird?
[08:57] <yohan> how do i disable the annoying terminal beeps in rxvt? help!
[08:57] <pirving> Arjan: Upgrade to 1.5 RC 2
[08:57] <pirving> www.getfirefox.org
[08:57] <rel> Hey guys, I have a PowerBook G4 running a dual OSX/Breezy boot, and I know that my airport express card is not supported, but that there is one apple card that is supported, does anyone know where I can find out what that card is?
[08:57] <Arjan> pirving, thanks, but it must be more serious than that. It happened after upgrading to breezy
[08:58] <pirx> Ethan: fo fb? docs for what? is it gdm that handles the logins per default?
[08:58] <Arjan> got some trouble getting X to start again, which still seems not to work perfectly
[08:58] <Arjan> I think it's a font problem somewhere not directly in mozilla
[08:58] <Ethan> pirx, fluxbox, you was talking about blackbox, no?
[08:58] <dducko> !dapper
[08:58] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[08:58] <RuffianSoldier> where is the sources.list located at?
[08:58] <Arjan> I'll just try a restart first
[08:59] <dducko>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:59] <madmike> any idea how to migration old mail from evolution -> thunderbird?
[08:59] <Ethan> pirx, fluxbox is based on blackbox
[09:00] <erUSUL> RuffianSoldier, /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:00] <pirx> Ethan: aha fluxbox. why should i sitch to fb?
[09:00] <nick01> I get this error in synaptic:
[09:00] <nick01> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ro.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[09:01] <nick01> ] warning whatever
[09:01] <Ethan> pirx, I dunno lol blackbox is older
[09:01] <dducko> You have a source listed 2 times
[09:01] <Blippe> is there a way to switch xserver on the fly?
[09:01] <Storm1> HI
[09:01] <nick01> which one \?
[09:01] <Storm1> i orders some lunux cds how long do hey take to come?
[09:01] <NoUse> Blippe as in not having to reboot?
[09:02] <dducko> Read the error, nick01  You can remove it by editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:02] <pirx> Ethan: yeah, i dont know what, but there was something i didnt like about fb last i tried it. but i dont see how that would fix my problem? does fb have a file of its own about which progs to start?
[09:02] <blackhat> Storm1 ; my friend waited a month for his discs.
[09:02] <madmike> need to migration mails from evolution -> thunderbird, any ideas?
[09:02] <Storm1> can sok thanks i order 40pc one and dat
[09:03] <NoUse> madmike have you googled?
[09:03] <Ethan> pirx, not exactly 3 files startup < style < init
[09:03] <madmike> yeah i did
[09:03] <Stormx2> May be possible to export/import .xml files?
[09:03] <german> hi,
[09:03] <Storm1> i orded 40 pc ones
[09:03] <tobi-wan> madmike: http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=04/09/10/1446217&tid=37&tid=101
[09:03] <Ethan> pirx, generally you use startup to start program
[09:03] <german> i can't read mp3 !???!!
[09:03] <tobi-wan> took 20 sec of google
[09:03] <basti> Hi
[09:03] <Stormx2> !mp3
[09:03] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:03] <dducko> !mp3
[09:03] <Storm1> im going to hand them out to my emploeyees
[09:03] <Stormx2> Too late ;-)
[09:03] <basti> whats the root password ?
[09:03] <NoUse> madmike not very hard http://fedoranews.org/mediawiki/index.php/How_to_import_Evolution_mail_into_Thunderbird
[09:03] <Stormx2> !root
[09:03] <ubotu> I guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:03] <nick01> dducko, well - I removed the multiverse sources and I no longer get the error but it was only once
[09:03] <pirx> Ethan: oki, will try fb, thanks
[09:03] <Blippe> NoUse as not having to really turn of x
[09:03] <dducko> Ther eisnt one BasL
[09:03] <madmike> tobi-wan i read it.. but this didn't seem to work
[09:03] <basti> (i need it for the su command)
[09:03] <NoUse> Blippe no
[09:03] <tobi-wan> madmike: hmmmm....
[09:04] <german> thanks
[09:04] <basti> hm
[09:04] <Red-Sox> how do you open directories found in the terminal in nautalus?
[09:04] <madmike> tobi-wan did you use this guide once?
[09:04] <Blippe> to bad
[09:04] <Stormx2> basti: Read what ubotu just put.
[09:04] <dducko> tell basti about root
[09:04] <Ethan> pirx, look at #fluxbox
[09:04] <basti> so kpackahge doesnt work
[09:04] <tobi-wan> madmike: no, i just found it :-) i stick to evolution
[09:04] <rel> Does anyone know why no one can make drivers for the Broadcom airport cards for Apple? I know they don't release specs or anything, but why hasn't someone reverse engineered it yet? That struck me as odd...
[09:04] <basti> yeah, i read it
[09:04] <Stormx2> OK
[09:04] <ompaul> Red-Sox, click on them
[09:04] <tobi-wan> madmike: what went wrong?
[09:04] <Stormx2> Well
[09:04] <Ethan> pirx, maybe bb is good too but I don't know....
[09:04] <Stormx2> You can enable root if you really need it, otherwise use sudo.
[09:05] <tobi-wan> madmike: but there seem to be a plentiful of guides :-)
[09:05] <Red-Sox> ompaul: sounds logical
[09:05] <german> Ubuntu has NO mp3 supprot!???
[09:05] <madmike> tobi-wan I copied my 'Inbox' file to my 'Local'-folder but Thunderbird didn't show my emails on the next start
[09:05] <NoUse> !tell german about mp3
[09:05] <nick01> ubotu: tell nick01 about codecs
[09:05] <german> but in Hoary i used to play mp3's
[09:05] <Stormx2> german: Read!
[09:05] <avb> rel: there is no drivers for that device for linux
[09:05] <Stormx2> german: It HAS got MP3 support. Read what ubotu just sent you.
[09:05] <Stormx2> german: I'm listening to MP3s right now.
[09:05] <Ethan> pirx, did you use startx ? .initrc is only when you use this cmd
[09:05] <madmike> tobi-wan the one us showed me is the only one i found.. and it seems a bit outdated and unprecise
[09:06] <NoUse> german they can't include mp3 support by default thanks to patents
[09:06] <avb> rel: thats why i sold my ibook and bought asus notebook
[09:06] <NoUse> german but read the link and you'll be fine
[09:06] <nrs> is there anyway to run the original network configuration script that first ran when I installed ubuntu - I don't have x installed so I can't take advatage of the GUI tools
[09:06] <Stormx2> God bless american software patents.
[09:06] <german> ok, thanks
[09:06] <tobi-wan> madmike: but there's a precise line how to copy your mail folders
[09:06] <varsendagger> ubotu: tell varsendagger about mp3's
[09:06] <ompaul> Stormx2, at least use an ironic smiley :-/         <<---  ;-)
[09:06] <varsendagger> ubotu: tell varsendagger about mp3
[09:07] <tobi-wan> madmike: and it's not just copying inbox to local
[09:07] <avb> nrs: try base-install
[09:07] <nrs> thanks
[09:07] <Blippe> NoUse as xrandr does :P
[09:07] <NoUse> !tell varsendagger about yourself
[09:07] <madmike> tobi-wan: wait a mo.. i'll explain which file i copied
[09:07] <dducko> !tell varsendagger about /msg the bot
[09:07] <basti> is there a tool that can install DEB FIles for Gnome?
[09:07] <tobi-wan> madmike: i googled for "migrate evolution to thunderbird" and there's a wealth of guides to choose from
[09:07] <NoUse> Blippe what?
[09:07] <jjazz> NoUse, FYI, I deleted the script, reinstalled apache2-common, and all seems fine.  Thanks for the advice earlier.
[09:07] <Stormx2> ompaul: Ya ;-) You have to be a little silly to think i was being sincere though lol
[09:08] <NoUse> jjazz glad it's working
[09:08] <varsendagger> dducko, how do i /msg the bot?
[09:08] <ompaul> basti, why not download the gnome tool it will be native more than 99% of the time
[09:08] <Blippe> you could use xrandr to change resolutions, that is pretty much what I wanna do...
[09:08] <Stormx2>  /msg ubotu <word>
[09:08] <ompaul> basti, use syanaptic
[09:08] <NoUse> varsendagger read the link ubotu sent you
[09:08] <jandusion> selinium, are you there??
[09:08] <dducko> Are you registrered varsendagger ?
[09:08] <Stormx2> My MP3s don't skip anymore :D
[09:08] <dducko> You Nick
[09:08] <basti> ompaul,  i have it, but it doesnt allow to install local binaries
[09:08] <Blippe> I have to check if there is a tool like it which could turn of my second display
[09:09] <Katsumoto> does any1 know which key combinations I need to press in order to save changes to a .conf file when I'm in nano ?
[09:09] <ompaul> jandusion, I can say with a great deal of certainty selinium is cooking food and then eating it
[09:09] <Stormx2> ubuntu is sexy: who | grep -i blonde | talk; wine; talk; touch; unzip; touch; strip; gasp; finger; mount; fsck; more; yes; gasp; umount; make clean; sleep;
[09:10] <ompaul> basti, you created it yourself or downloaded it?
[09:10] <basti> downloaded it
[09:10] <basti> in this case its opera
[09:10] <jandusion> ompaul, ok hmm he told me a way go get skype by typening wget and something in terminal. do you now anything about that?
[09:10] <erUSUL> Katsumoto, the combinations are in the bottom part of the screen ^O (crtl + O)
[09:11] <Katsumoto> oke thanks :)
[09:11] <ompaul> jandusion, in a min
[09:11] <dducko> !tell jandusion about skype
[09:11] <tobi-wan> i need a (music-) cd-managing app but can't seem to find a decent one... (gnome)
[09:11] <ompaul> basti, command line >>sudo dpkg -i package.deb<<
[09:11] <Stormx2> tobi-wan: Easy-tag can manage folders and such
[09:12] <tobi-wan> Stormx2: but can it also manage audio cd's like.... which cd's i own and which songs etc.?
[09:12] <Stormx2> tobi-wan: It can ID3v2 tag files, etc
[09:12] <ompaul> basti, applications accessories terminal
[09:12] <tobi-wan> Stormx2: i'm not necessarily talking 'bout mp3, but audio cds
[09:12] <basti> whats that?
[09:12] <Stormx2> tobi-wan: Hmm.
[09:12] <basti> or where can I get it?
[09:12] <tobi-wan> real, plain, beautiful, old-fashioned 44khz audio
[09:12] <varsendagger> dducko, no i am not registered is that the problem?
[09:13] <dducko> Yeah, you cant message him unless your registered
[09:13] <Arjan> X is working like a charm now again. The next app that isn' t working properly is mozilla-firefox though. It shows up without any fonts :-\
[09:13] <varsendagger> ahh
[09:13] <dducko> varsendagger, /msg nickserv help register
[09:13] <Stormx2> !register
[09:13] <ubotu> register is probably type /msg nickserv help register
[09:13] <ompaul> basti, that is where you can run that command line I sent you
[09:13] <varsendagger> do i do that throught ubuntu.org?
[09:13] <Arjan> so, I just see pictures, but nothing, nowhere
[09:13] <Stormx2> varsendagger: No
[09:13] <dducko> Hmm... brb....
[09:14] <Stormx2> varsendagger: Right here!
[09:14] <Arjan> no text in the menus, no text in the addressbar, no text in the websites I try to visit blindly
[09:14] <ompaul> varsendagger, read that Stormx2 had ubotu say :-)
[09:14] <Arjan> any idea?
[09:14] <NoUse> !tell varsendagger about regiseter
[09:14] <tobi-wan> Arjax: ehhm.... kind of broken theme for gnome?
[09:14] <NoUse> !tell varsendagger about register
[09:14] <tobi-wan> Arjan: is that possible?
[09:14] <nickel> i downloaded bitchx from bitchx.org but there no GUI
[09:14] <nickel> how do i get one w/ GUI for ubuntu
[09:14] <achilles> Hi people! Can anyone help me with my AMD 79c978 HomePNA? I can't get it to load with "options homepna=1" at boot time...
[09:14] <Arjan> tobi-wan: the errormessage it prints to terminal is (Gecko:8727): Pango-CRITICAL **: pango_cairo_show_glyph_string: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT (font)' failed
[09:14] <nickel> i can only run it in terminal
[09:15] <NoUse> nickel xchat
[09:15] <nickel> i am on xchat now
[09:15] <nickel> but i dont like it
[09:15] <tobi-wan> Arjan: never heard, frankly
[09:15] <Arjan> darn
[09:15] <nickel> is there a way to install bitchx w/ gui instead
[09:15] <NoUse> nickel gaim does IRC
[09:15] <achilles> using 5.10
[09:15] <tobi-wan> but well....
[09:15] <Stormx2> bitchx can be installed from apt-get
[09:15] <Stormx2> "sudo apt-get install bitchx"
[09:15] <CaMeL> siema all
[09:15] <NoUse> Stormx2 he wants it to have a GUI
[09:15] <Arjan> i just did a apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox, but it didn' t help
[09:15] <NoUse> nickel bitchx is a console app
[09:16] <tobi-wan> Arjan: have you got libcairo2 installed?
[09:16] <tobi-wan> Arjan: just a blind try, though...
[09:16] <Stormx2> NoUse: I thought there might be an issue with downloading from the main site, thats all ;-)
[09:16] <Arjan> gonna check now
[09:16] <nickel> NoUse ive seen people with BitchX on GUI ;X
[09:16] <tobi-wan> Arjan: and if you're at it, check for pango, tooo
[09:16] <nickel> ;X
[09:16] <nickel> but thanks
[09:16] <nickel> ill try the apt-get
[09:16] <NoUse> nickel they run it in a term emulator in X
[09:16] <Stormx2> brb now I have ripping working I'm off to rip my Mad Capsule Markets cd ;D
[09:16] <CaMeL> I have had problem with kadu:/
[09:17] <Arjan> what IS pango? :)
[09:17] <CaMeL> but now it's working...uff
[09:17] <tobi-wan> Arjan: eh.... i believe it is a font-manager, but i am not sure
[09:17] <dducko> Is there an IRC chanel for those testing Dapper?
[09:17] <tobi-wan> Arjan: actually, according to apt, it's a library responsible for rendering text
[09:18] <german> thank you guys!!!
[09:18] <ompaul> jandusion, want me to dcc you the skype binary? you can ask anyone else for the md5sum of the seveas binary for skype_1.2.0.17-1_i386.deb
[09:18] <tobi-wan> Arjan: probably that went bork during the upgrade
[09:18] <Arjan> It has something to do with fonts, but libpango-common and libpango1.0 are installed
[09:18] <Stormx2> dducko: Doesn't look like it.
[09:18] <Arjan> should I reinstall it?
[09:18] <tobi-wan> Arjan: and cairo?
[09:18] <german> i'm already listening to my music!! XD
[09:18] <CaMeL> How install the skype ??
[09:18] <jandusion> ompaul, sure if you can
[09:18] <CaMeL> for gnome:>
[09:18] <tobi-wan> Arjan: well... i don't think this will change anything.... btw: what did you do to your system?
[09:18] <Stormx2> !skype
[09:18] <ubotu> skype is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:18] <Arjan> libcairo1 and libcairo 2 installed
[09:19] <Arjan> tobi-wan: I just put in the Breezy cd, and started synaptic :)
[09:19] <Arjan> then, clicked on upgrade
[09:19] <german> Stormx2,  NoUse  thanks for the help
[09:19] <tobi-wan> Arjan: that should have worked :-D
[09:19] <tobi-wan> Arjan: anyways... hm
[09:19] <dducko> Oh, well Im sure there will be one soon... Just did a dist-upgrade (on a second harddrive).. went flawlessly.. better then my hoary-breezy expierience
[09:19] <CaMeL> I thought that it's in the Add Aplication, but I was wrong:D
[09:19] <Arjan> but I fear I flushed a few config-files
[09:20] <nickel> nickel@laptop:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get install bitchx
[09:20] <nickel> Reading package lists... Done
[09:20] <nickel> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:20] <nickel> E: Couldn't find package bitchx
[09:20] <nickel> ;X
[09:20] <NoUse> nickel read the /topic, don't paste in here
[09:20] <nickel> sorry
[09:20] <nickel> didnt see that
[09:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell nickel about repos
[09:20] <_jason> Hi everyone, does anyone know anything about turning auto-repeat on for mouse buttons?
[09:20] <NoUse> !info bitchx
[09:21] <nalioth> nickel: enable universe and multiverse repos and look again
[09:21] <ubotu> bitchx: (Advanced Internet Relay Chat client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1:1.1-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1466 kB, Installed size: 6484 kB
[09:21] <nickel> nalioth, how do i do that
[09:21] <NoUse> nickel you need to enable the universe repo
[09:21] <nickel> turn on repos
[09:21] <tobi-wan> Arjan: search for ubuntu here: http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2005/8567.html
[09:21] <NoUse> !tell nickel about repos
[09:21] <tobi-wan> quite interesting
[09:21] <painkiler> !info samba
[09:21] <ubotu> samba: (a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2332 kB, Installed size: 5928 kB
[09:21] <welp_ubuntu> nalioth, can i use ubotu?
[09:21] <NoUse> !tell welp_ubuntu about yourself
[09:21] <Seveas> welp_ubuntu, for which purpose?
[09:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell welp_ubuntu about msg the bot
[09:22] <nickel> anyways this might be a really retarded question but is there a way to get ASP working w/ my Apache?
[09:22] <Arjan> tobi-wan: suggestions for a temp alternative browser a bit more sophisticated than lynx?
[09:22] <nalioth> Arjan: links2
[09:22] <tobi-wan> Arjan: galeon
[09:22] <dducko> links2
[09:22] <nickel> i know how to get PHP running, trying to figure out if its possible to have ASP on a linux box
[09:23] <tobi-wan> nalioth, dducko: *rofl*
[09:23] <NoUse> nickel I think the mono project is working on it but I don't know
[09:23] <welp_ubuntu> cooool
[09:23] <Arjan> thanks guys :)
[09:23] <NoUse> nickel I've avoided ASP like the plague
[09:23] <welp_ubuntu> i like ubotu
[09:23] <tobi-wan> Arjan: galeon is definitively fine if you plan to stay with gnome
[09:23] <welp_ubuntu> :P
[09:23] <Arjan> i' ll try galeon :)
[09:23] <tobi-wan> Arjan: but it works for me, that's what i find strange
[09:23] <nalioth> tobi-wan: the question was " a bit more sophisticated"
[09:23] <CaMeL> I used to Mandrake 10.0 official and there wasn't dcgui but in Ubuntu it's and it's easy to use;)
[09:23] <nickel> hrmm - im switching distributoins alot and i've been on ubuntu the longest
[09:23] <tobi-wan> Arjan: i installed breezy 2 days ago and it ran like a breeze :-)
[09:23] <nickel> i like everything about it, support and stuff
[09:23] <nalioth> tobi-wan: jumping from text mode to X is a lot more sophisticated
[09:23] <nickel> just not sure if its "server" material
[09:24] <nalioth> nickel: sure it is
[09:24] <tobi-wan> nalioth: :-D
[09:24] <Arjan> tobi-wan: should I need the package "firefox" or "mozilla-firefox" ?
[09:24] <nickel> will cPanel/WHM work on it?
[09:24] <nalioth> nickel: webmin
[09:24] <nickel> so im guessing cPanel/WHM wont work then
[09:24] <Seveas> nickel, syscp
[09:24] <tobi-wan> Arjan: firefox
[09:24] <Seveas> cpanel might work, no experience with it
[09:24] <nickel> ill take a look @ those
[09:25] <Arjan> the other one is outdated?
[09:25] <nickel> thanks alot ;] 
[09:25] <Arjan> then I'll try that first
[09:25] <nickel> syscp and webmin are free?
[09:25] <jandusion> ompaul, how do i install the file when its done??
[09:25] <CaMeL> Tell me what's wrong with amoroK ??
[09:25] <ompaul> jandusion,  command line >>sudo dpkg -i package.deb<<
[09:25] <Ethan> ubotu: tell Ethan about msg the bot
[09:25] <Arjan> perhaps that's the only problem. Just waiting til the whole thing is downloaded
[09:26] <Arjan> If that's solved, my move to breezy is complete
[09:26] <jandusion> ompaul, okiz
[09:26] <Arjan> finally :-\
[09:26] <Arjan> tobi-wan: auch in osterreich?
[09:26] <nickel> /server -m irc.brokenirc.net
[09:26] <CaMeL> I have been installed it, volume is 100% but I don not hear it :>??
[09:26] <nickel> err
[09:26] <ompaul> jandusion, applications accessories terminal << that menu path gets you a terminal to run it in - the password is your password
[09:26] <nickel> sorry i thought it was like mir
[09:26] <nickel> c
[09:26] <nickel> ignore that
[09:26] <tobi-wan> Arjan: yup
[09:26] <nickel> no multi-servre
[09:26] <nickel> =/
[09:27] <Arjan> :)
[09:27] <tobi-wan> Arjan: vienna
[09:27] <Arjan> me too
[09:27] <CaMeL> so I think amorok is broken??
[09:27] <Arjan> the "Firefox"package is working fine now
[09:27] <welp_ubuntu> how come when i do apt-get update i get lines that have Ign at the beginning as you can see at: http://rafb.net/paste/results/nrqDbg89.html
[09:27] <CaMeL> it's quite strange, but I don't know what do:>
[09:27] <Arjan> somehow, "mozilla-firefox" was outdated
[09:28] <tobi-wan> Arjan: grand!
[09:28] <markl__> is there a gstreamer plugin that can recognize mp3 files?
[09:28] <crimsun> ...gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:28] <CaMeL> A M O R O K is shit !!!
[09:28] <CaMeL> :D
[09:28] <crimsun> uh
[09:29] <crimsun> what precisely was the point of that, CaMeL?
[09:29] <welp_ubuntu> lol
[09:29] <markl__> crimsun: not available from the standard sources?
[09:29] <crimsun> markl__: universe..
[09:30] <ProNoob> i think i have lost a binary in /bin because of disk corruption on shutown, might have been something starting with a, or something containing pic, can anyone tell me if there are such files in there ?
[09:30] <CaMeL> I have been installed it, volume is 100% but I don't hear that:|
[09:30] <CaMeL> help me !!
[09:30] <markl__> crimsun: what is universe
[09:30] <Arjan> tobi-wan: danke fuer die hilfe denn :D
[09:30] <CaMeL> installation is complete
[09:30] <tobi-wan> Arjan: np :-D
[09:30] <CaMeL> but programm it's not working:/
[09:31] <d03boy> who can help me out with this error...
[09:31] <CaMeL> Somebody help me !!!
[09:31] <markl__> wiki search didn't show any results for universe that seem relevant
[09:31] <CaMeL> Is anybody who can help me ????????
[09:31] <d03boy> eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=8871
[09:31] <tobi-wan> CaMeL: not if you keep spamming the channel, for sure
[09:31] <tobi-wan> CaMeL: give people a chance to think about your prob
[09:31] <CaMeL> OK
[09:31] <CaMeL> sorry !!!!
[09:31] <ProNoob> could anyone do a quick ls -a /bin|grep pic;ls -a /bin/a* for me ?
[09:32] <ProNoob> i really need this info
[09:32] <jcole> anyone here have a motorolla e815 phone with evdo/vcast that has enabled the hack to do bluetooth networking in linux?
[09:32] <tobi-wan> CaMeL: what exactly is your problem? you don't hear anything... only when replaying mp3s? or with audio cds, too?
[09:32] <crimsun> !tell markl__ about repos
[09:33] <ompaul> ProNoob, you are looking for /bin/arch are you?
[09:33] <CaMeL> I haven't been used cds, just mp3 from hdd
[09:33] <CaMeL> :)
[09:33] <angel2> hi guys
[09:33] <d03boy> someone needs to fix my java problems
[09:33] <tobi-wan> CaMeL: well, do you have gstreamer-mad installed?
[09:33] <tobi-wan> !tell CaMel mp3
[09:33] <Artie> Hello ubuntu install stops always at 25%. I think it's when it's trying to go online says something about apt.
[09:34] <CaMeL> now I dont not have it
[09:34] <CaMeL> :/
[09:34] <tobi-wan> !tell CaMeL mp3
[09:34] <ProNoob> no, ompaul i think i lost some file in /bin during some power outage while shutting down, and i think it started with a or/and contained pic, could you give me files with that names ?
[09:34] <CaMeL> so I should install it ???
[09:34] <tobi-wan> darn
[09:34] <tobi-wan> CaMeL: you got to install it to listen to mp3's
[09:34] <tobi-wan> *sigh* people, how many times did we have that question... today
[09:34] <CaMeL> but now I listening mp3 from xmms:>
[09:35] <tobi-wan> CaMeL: and it works?
[09:35] <CaMeL> and it's working quite well
[09:35] <tobi-wan> oh
[09:35] <tobi-wan> hm
[09:35] <tobi-wan> well
[09:35] <tobi-wan> CaMeL: did you install amarok-gstreamer?
[09:35] <ompaul> ProNoob, that is all that is there - which is why I pasted it
[09:35] <NoUse> xmms doesn't use gstreamer
[09:35] <ProNoob> ok, thanks, ompaul
[09:36] <Stormx2> Could someone tell me about metacity. Is it included in ubuntu / gnome?
[09:37] <Stormx2> bmp and xmms support mp3 natively.
[09:37] <NoUse> Stormx2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metacity
[09:37] <nickrud> Stormx2, yes, it's the default window manager for gnome
[09:37] <ompaul> ProNoob, if you lost a file try the "lost + found" in each partition
[09:38] <CaMeL> amorok its suport for xmms
[09:38] <ProNoob> i did, ompaul
[09:38] <CaMeL> I don't like liestening music form xmms
[09:38] <nickrud> CaMeL, amarok is a completely separate application from xmms; they play mp3's differently
[09:39] <CaMeL> so what's your advice for me, what it's the best music player for ubunutu 5.10 ????
[09:40] <NoUse> CaMeL tell us which one you like and we'll help you get it working
[09:40] <madmike> any idea how to migration old mail from evolution -> thunderbird?
[09:40] <ProNoob> CaMeL, use beep-media-player
[09:40] <ProNoob> its best
[09:40] <ev0> hi evry1
[09:40] <CaMeL> I have been using ubuntu for 2 weeks, so I am still learning:)
[09:41] <nickrud> CaMeL, the big 5 seem to be amarok, rythymbox, beep-media-player, xmms, and muine
[09:41] <ev0> oh, ive been using it for 2 hrs CaMel
[09:41] <CaMeL> hehehehehehe
[09:41] <dle> madmike - does tbird not have an Import function?
[09:41] <ev0> could someone help me install xmms?
[09:41] <CaMeL> what's the format of it ???
[09:41] <ev0> of what? xmms?
[09:41] <CaMeL> tar.gz, deb etc
[09:41] <CaMeL> :>
[09:42] <ev0> .rpm, .tgz and stuff? I have no idea. :(
[09:42] <ev0> im not sure which one i can support
[09:42] <nickrud> madmike, you could create a Maildir format store and move the evolution mail to it; then thunderbird could read it
[09:42] <CaMeL> please clikck right button on it
[09:42] <CaMeL> and read that:D
[09:42] <ev0> okay, it's tgz
[09:42] <CaMeL> :)
[09:42] <ompaul> ev0, >> sudo apt-get install xmms<< or use the gui system administration synaptic
[09:42] <jasongrieves> ohw can I make the mounted windows partition writable?
[09:42] <CaMeL> you can use synaptic
[09:42] <CaMeL> its good idea
[09:43] <NoUse> madmike I sent you a link on how to dothat
[09:43] <d03boy> I installed the java sdk 1.5.0_05 but I cant find it anywhere on my system... all that is there is the 1.5.0_03 version... where the hell is it?
[09:43] <ompaul> ev0, that package will be ready for use you don't need to build it
[09:43] <CaMeL> I have installed kadu in this way;)
[09:43] <ev0> so how do i get it working?
[09:43] <ev0> the .tgz? yeah
[09:43] <ompaul> ev0, do what I tell ya
[09:43] <NoUse> madmike google "evolution to thunderbird import mail"
[09:43] <ev0> ok
[09:43] <CaMeL> please enter to synaptic:)
[09:43] <markl__> crimsun: cool thanks
[09:44] <NoUse> jasongrieves ntfs or fat32?
[09:44] <jasongrieves> ubotu tell jasongrieves about windows
[09:44] <jasongrieves> nftfs
[09:44] <ompaul> ev0, I have no idea where you got that and so I do not want to get into the whole install a build software kit thing to start
[09:44] <NoUse> jasongrieves you can't
[09:44] <angel2> I've just installed Ubuntu on PPC and face dpkg problems ( dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed). Known issue ? Any work-around. Pb is : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75580.html . Is synaptic the answer ?
[09:44] <jasongrieves> really?
[09:44] <NoUse> jasongrieves ntfs write isn't supported in Linux right now
[09:44] <jasongrieves> workaround?
[09:44] <ev0> what the .tgz? it's an aim installation.
[09:44] <NoUse> jasongrieves you can thank Microsoft for not releasing how NTFS works
[09:44] <NoUse> jasongrieves convert to FAT32
[09:44] <CaMeL> My friend tell me today that ubuntu is shit!!!!
[09:44] <ompaul> ev0, use gaim
[09:44] <sprite_dwight> hey
[09:45] <CaMeL> for him the best is gentoo:
[09:45] <ompaul> ev0, I don't know what you have or where you got it
[09:45] <d03boy> CaMeL, nobody gives a shit
[09:45] <ev0> well yeah, i can do that, and ia m using it , the thing was i wanted to learn how to install .tgz extract and the sort.
[09:45] <Stormx2> CaMeL: Everyone to their own.
[09:45] <jasongrieves> bleh
[09:45] <CaMeL> what's your opinion??
[09:45] <Stormx2> CaMeL: Some people like gentoo more. big deal.
[09:45] <madmike> NoUse: I did this before coming here. I've read http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=04/09/10/1446217&tid=37&tid=101 but I don't understand
[09:45] <angel2> CaMeL: I'm fed-up compiling stuff on ppc with Gentoo
[09:45] <sprite_dwight> DShepherd: hey how are you
[09:45] <d03boy> I installed the java sdk 1.5.0_05 but I cant find it anywhere on my system... all that is there is the 1.5.0_03 version... where the hell is it?
[09:45] <ompaul> CaMeL, don't have one it is not a package for his system - (assuming he) and also this is #ubuntu
[09:46] <NoUse> madmike which part?
[09:46] <DShepherd> sprite_dwight: ok you
[09:46] <AMDXP> i am loving this automated installer
[09:46] <d03boy> NoUse, =d
[09:46] <NoUse> d03boy what?
[09:46] <CaMeL> yesterday I was at the meeting with friends, and we were watching how to compile the kernel in gentoo:D
[09:46] <madmike> which file (exactly) needs to be copied
[09:46] <madmike> NoUse which file (exactly) needs to be copied
[09:46] <nalioth> d03boy: /msg ubotu multijava
[09:47] <CaMeL> it was looking cool...Yeah !!!
[09:47] <d03boy> nalioth, i dont even want multijava, i just want revision 5
[09:47] <cyrre> Anyone knows a good torrent program?
[09:47] <d03boy> but i'll ask anyway
[09:47] <ompaul> CaMeL, that is a conversation for #ubuntu-offtopic or #gentoo but not in the support channel for ubuntu
[09:47] <jasongrieves> NoUse captive NTFS ?
[09:47] <jasongrieves> http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/#download
[09:47] <CaMeL> OK
[09:47] <CaMeL> sorry
[09:47] <CaMeL> :)
[09:47] <NoUse> jasongrieves I havne't used it and I don't know how stable it is, use at your own risk
[09:48] <jasongrieves> ok thanks
[09:48] <CaMeL> I am interested in music player
[09:48] <NoUse> madmike this howto gives a step by step with the exact commands to run
[09:48] <ompaul> jasongrieves, that relies on tainting the kernel - if your machine starts breaking look there first
[09:48] <NoUse> madmike just follow what it tells you to do
[09:48] <jasongrieves> ompaul thanks
[09:49] <jasongrieves> do you all know if I can run the virtual frame buffer + an X sessoin displaying the same data?
[09:49] <madmike> NoUse I don't have a file called 'mbox'
[09:49] <jasongrieves> so the X is displaying on the screen and the vfb is displaying on :1
[09:49] <jasongrieves> well not displaying
[09:49] <welp_ubuntu> does anyone know why i can't install wine?
[09:49] <jasongrieves> but doing it
[09:49] <felon> deleted group
[09:49] <NoUse> madmike find ~/evolution -iname '*mbox*'
[09:50] <felon> what a bunch of idiots
[09:50] <welp_ubuntu> felon, be nice
[09:50] <welp_ubuntu> :P
[09:50] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, sudo apt-get install wine<< u use that method?
[09:50] <ubuntu> hello
[09:50] <felon> sorry
[09:50] <felon> wrong channel
[09:50] <CaMeL> I have a one question yet...my xmms do not streaming radio from internet, but it play mp3 from hdd
[09:50] <dducko> hello
[09:50] <alex_> how can I give permision of 777 for an user
[09:50] <welp_ubuntu> felon, lol
[09:50] <felon> talking about windows anyways
[09:50] <CaMeL> what's the reason ??
[09:50] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, yes
[09:50] <ubuntu> i'm cureently running the ubuntu 5.10 live cd
[09:50] <dducko> CaMeL, install streamtuner
[09:50] <jasongrieves> CaMeL apt-get install streamtuner
[09:50] <ubuntu> ubuntu is assome!
[09:50] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, that doesn't work
[09:51] <NoUse> alex_ chmod 777 filename and then make sure it's own by your user
[09:51] <mdeboer> CaMeL: works for me. what radio?
[09:51] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, what error message does it throw up?
[09:51] <welp_ubuntu> one second
[09:51] <alex_> but if I want give that permision to a specific user how can I do it
[09:51] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, http://rafb.net/paste/results/953tv151.html
[09:51] <WildZeck> ou ein
[09:51] <ubuntu> i an gonna install it on my computer cause i al;ready got 98se and xp so if i ever want to run it i will use live cd
[09:51] <jjazz> Apache2 can execute perl scripts from /cgi-bin/ just fine, but gives me a 403 error when I try to execute one in ~/user/public_html.  I can't figure out what permissions I need to set to address this.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.
[09:52] <ubuntu> thanks to everyvbiody who made this possiuble
[09:52] <mdeboer> CaMeL: i am currenly listening to www.ragga-jungle.com with xmms. no problem at all
[09:52] <CaMeL> I am talking about radio channel....
[09:52] <ompaul> !tell welp_ubuntu about repos
[09:52] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu please add the repo universe
[09:52] <CaMeL> but not for me...
[09:52] <mdeboer> CaMeL: what radio?
[09:52] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, i've done that, otherwise i wouldn't be asking
[09:52] <holycow> weird
[09:52] <ubuntu> is my computer vulnerable to hackers running 5.10 l;ive cd?
[09:52] <holycow> i can't edit applications menu with smeg in breezy
[09:53] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, try sudo apt-get update and then try again
[09:53] <gepatino> jjaz apache runs as a nouser or something like that, chmod 755 ~/user
[09:53] <mike8901> anyone know if the latest breezy badger livecd's got shipped yet?
[09:53] <ubuntu> yes
[09:53] <CaMeL> do you know polish station Megastacja.pl????
[09:53] <jjazz> gepatino, I'll try that.  Thanks.
[09:53] <mike8901> ubuntu: was that a response to me?
[09:53] <ni1s> ubuntu, linux is a pretty safe OS, be smart and you wont get in trouble
[09:53] <ubuntu> i just recived the 5.10 cd's yesterday
[09:53] <mike8901> cool
[09:53] <mike8901> my friend got em too, I just wanted to know if they all got sent out
[09:54] <ubuntu> thnaks
[09:54] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, here is the output from that: http://rafb.net/paste/results/UIrJz010.html - it doesn't work
[09:54] <CaMeL> mdeboer ??
[09:54] <fatalblu|mobile> i think my dishwasher just exploded
[09:54] <mdeboer> CaMeL: i press PLAY RADIO, and xmms is playing
[09:54] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, note the Ign next to the wine related things
[09:54] <jeanmichel> hi, i am looking for a replacement of http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/devnotpublic/ since, it's dead
[09:54] <jeanmichel> i am looking for hugin packages
[09:54] <mdeboer> fatalblu: but... where you running linux on it?
[09:55] <madmike> NoUse That doesnt turn up anything usefull
[09:55] <gepatino> jjazz dont forget to set read permisions to 'others' for the html files
[09:55] <holycow> can you guys edit your menus with menu editor?
[09:55] <holycow> i'm looking for a confirmation
[09:55] <CaMeL> so what;s wrong in my player ??
[09:55] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, remove sourceforge and just add universe
[09:55] <welp_ubuntu> so...
[09:55] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, that is not a ubuntu build
[09:55] <NoUse> madmike I've never used evolution so beyond that I can't help you
[09:55] <dducko> CaMeL, Have you installed streamtuner yet?
[09:55] <jjazz> gepatino, I can read html files just fine.  And the perms on the home dir, public_html, and the script are all 755
[09:55] <CaMeL> now I am listenig radio form REAL PLAYER
[09:55] <welp_ubuntu> add the line universe
[09:55] <mdeboer> CaMeL: xmms should work fine
[09:55] <SysFail> what DIR do the windows codecs go into for kaffeine????
[09:55] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, add the line universe
[09:55] <welp_ubuntu> ?
[09:55] <madmike> NoUse Thanks anyway ;)
[09:55] <CaMeL> hmm
[09:56] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, stop wait I want to type an instruction
[09:56] <NoUse> SysFail the w32codecs packages installs to /usr/lib/win32
[09:56] <NoUse> !tell SysFail about w32codecs
[09:56] <madmike> NoUse I thouht maybe the Tutorial means a mbox-type fiel but I dont know which-on it is
[09:56] <SysFail> thanks man
[09:56] <CaMeL> that's why I've installed amorok, but I don't hear voice:/
[09:56] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list into paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:56] <madmike> anyone has an idea how to migration old mail from evolution -> thunderbird?
[09:57] <ni1s> "SysFail the w32codecs packages installs to /usr/lib/win32", dose it? new mplayer dosent like that, it wants them to be at /usr/lib/codecs
[09:57] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, the whole thing?
[09:57] <NoUse> CaMeL are you running amarok from Gnome?
[09:57] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, ok
[09:57] <CaMeL> Yeah I know it's for KDE:)
[09:57] <NoUse> CaMeL yeah so I think you might need to change the sound output plugin, go into the setup and change it to esd or alsa
[09:58] <CaMeL> in amorok or xmms ???
[09:59] <NoUse> CaMeL amarok
[09:59] <CaMeL> OK
[10:00] <navarone> speaking of music players/jukeboxes...anyone use or have an opinion of gmuscibrowser?
[10:00] <gepatino> jjazz did it work?
[10:00] <CaMeL> where is the option in amorok ???
[10:00] <navarone> *gmusicbrowser
[10:00] <NoUse> CaMeL I don' tknow, its in there somewhere
[10:00] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4642
[10:00] <jjazz> gepatino, nope.  Everything was 755 already.  I can read html just fine from that dir.  It's just perl scripts that give me the 403.
[10:00] <gepatino> jjazz maybe they try to redirect to another page?
[10:01] <cafuego> madmike: imap
[10:01] <jjazz> gepatino, no, the script is very simple.
[10:01] <CaMeL> I'll check it :)
[10:01] <CaMeL> but I know how change it xmms but in amorok..hmm
[10:01] <jjazz> gepatino, I'll write a quick helloworld and see if that works.
[10:02] <SCMark> I've asked this here before but I'll try again:  Does anyone know how to increase the sensitivity of the mousewheel?
[10:02] <NoUse> CaMeL http://amarok.kde.org/component/option,com_staticxt/Itemid,49/xt_item,1/staticfile,configure-engine.html
[10:03] <selinium> jandusion, did you ping me earlier?
[10:03] <ompaul> selinium, he sorted
[10:03] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4643
[10:03] <selinium> ompaul, cool,
[10:03] <ompaul> selinium, he was looking for you when you were cooking so I took it
[10:03] <selinium> no probs :)
[10:04] <SysFail> dammit...kaffeine isnt asking me for where the codecs are
[10:04] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, what do i do with that?
[10:05] <grover> does anyone know why synaptic seems to always show *all* pkgs as new in repository?
[10:05] <NoUse> SysFail it uses mplayer so it knows where to look
[10:06] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, gone for 5 mins - that is your new file /etc/apt/sources.list but back upo the one you have now
[10:06] <SysFail> kaffeine used to have a wizard that checked itself all out
[10:06] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, give me 5 and I'll be back
[10:06] <SysFail> and told you about potential problems
[10:06] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, ok
[10:07] <selinium> ompaul, Get him to do a sudo wget path/to/sources -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:07] <CaMeL> I changed plugin but its this same:/
[10:08] <ubuntu> hello
[10:08] <selinium> hello!
[10:08] <welp_ubuntu> lol
[10:08] <welp_ubuntu> hi
[10:08] <NoUse> CaMeL you changed the output plug to what?
[10:09] <ubuntu> ???
[10:09] <selinium> welp_ubuntu, indeed, I see all!
[10:09] <welp_ubuntu> :d
[10:09] <CaMeL> now output plugin is alsasink
[10:09] <welp_ubuntu> *:D
[10:09] <NoUse> CaMeL try esd
[10:09] <Rawplayer> re
[10:10] <lokm> hi all.... I need to install zlib librarioes, but everytime, when I give configure, it goes few seconds ok but then say Could not find makefile.ini... Do you think HDD can be fucked? Or what's going on when that file is there ok
[10:10] <lokm> ???
[10:10] <CaMeL> I think about changing this player:/
[10:10] <NoUse> lokm use synaptic to install zlib
[10:10] <annex> How can I find out what versions of packages are in Breezy? I'm not running it.
[10:11] <NoUse> CaMeL try banshee or rhythmbox
[10:11] <LjL> lokm: why can't you use the ubuntu packages?
[10:11] <lokm> NoUse: I dont think I have zlib in my repository
[10:11] <CaMeL> give me address NoUse :>
[10:11] <LjL> lokm: i think you do
[10:11] <NoUse> CaMeL they are in synaptic
[10:11] <LjL> lokm: what about zlib1g?
[10:12] <nick01> I installed the win32 codecs and I still can't play aa divx file in totem :/
[10:12] <CaMeL> ok:D
[10:12] <NoUse> nick01 did you install totem-xine
[10:12] <nick01> no
[10:12] <NoUse> nick01 do that
[10:12] <lokm> oki... I found something but not really zlib... I'll try it... thx
[10:12] <nick01> k
[10:13] <joeljkp> so what's the preferred method of transcoding video between free formats nowadays
[10:13] <mdeboer> mencoder?
[10:13] <mdeboer> ffmpeg?
[10:13] <LjL> lokm: look, the zlib1g package description says "zlib is a library implementing the deflate compression method [.....] ", why do you think this isn't zlib?
[10:14] <DaSkreech> !mp3
[10:14] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:14] <mdeboer> joeljkp: but i only know 1 free format
[10:15] <mdeboer> joeljkp: so, not much transcoding to do
[10:15] <joeljkp> mdeboer: mjpeg, theora, mpeg1...
[10:15] <CaMeL> I can't find it
[10:15] <mdeboer> joeljkp: hm.. didn't realize  mjpeg and mpeg1 are free
[10:15] <NoUse> CaMeL have you enabled the universe repo?
[10:16] <nick01> NoUse, it's no use, I still have no sound
[10:16] <CaMeL> I've refreshed repo...:)
[10:16] <CaMeL> but tell me where is rhytmbox in synaptic ????
[10:17] <NoUse> nick01 download mplayer, its a better player
[10:17] <NoUse> CaMeL spelling it correctly would be the first task, rhythmbox
[10:17] <NoUse> !info rhythmbox
[10:17] <annex> Hrmm, something went wrong.
[10:17] <ubotu> rhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.9.0-0ubuntu6 (breezy), Packaged size: 1565 kB, Installed size: 4724 kB
[10:17] <nick01> NoUse, how will it play without the sound codecs ? in mandriva I can play that file no probs with totem
[10:17] <annex> What version of bittorrent does Breezy have?
[10:17] <CaMeL> heheheh
[10:17] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, there are a couple of ways to proceed
[10:17] <NoUse> nick01 w32codecs are sound and video codecs
[10:17] <CaMeL> ok, I am writing too fast:/
[10:18] <NoUse> nick01 I use mplayer and I'm able to play everything
[10:18] <joeljkp> mdeboer: i believe they are... anyway, mng definitely is
[10:18] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, have you used the console at all?
[10:18] <nick01> than why no sound ?
[10:18] <welp_ubuntu> ompaul, selinium has taken over in #ubuntu-uk
[10:18] <NoUse> nick01 get mplayer
[10:18] <nick01> kkk
[10:18] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, kool
[10:18] <mdeboer> joeljkp: but... mng for video?
[10:18] <selinium> sorry ompaul! :)
[10:18] <ompaul>  /dcc send selinium a_nice_cold_guinness
[10:18] <CaMeL> ok, I find it:)
[10:19] <delta_> video and vlc ?
[10:19] <sampan> has anyone had a breezy update mess up SCIM and then been able to get it working properly again?
[10:19] <joeljkp> mdeboer: yeah, not ideal, but it works... same as mjpeg, and i have here a few mjpeg movies
[10:19] <mdeboer> joeljkp: i see now mng does jpeg as well
[10:20] <SirKillalot> is there anyone with a Natural Keyboard Pro here?
[10:20] <SysFail> does anybody know how to tell kaffeine WHERE the win32 codecs are installed???
[10:20] <siph0n_> hey, im getting a error that says a command is not found, but when i do a 'file filename' i see that it is a ELF 32-bit LSB executable
[10:20] <NoUse> SysFail I still think it defaults to looking in /usr/lib/win32
[10:20] <siph0n_> any ideas why its saying command not found?
[10:20] <mdeboer> joeljkp: but what do you want the movies for?
[10:20] <holycow> Amaranth, are you involved with development of smeg? or were you writing a differnt yet similar app?
[10:21] <Janbanan> At gnome-look there are a lot of splahscreens. Where can I use those?
[10:21] <SysFail> it must not nouse...it isnt working
[10:21] <SysFail> you used to be able to run a kaffeine wizard thing
[10:21] <fdr> hello! I don't like rythmbox much... Could you please suggest me some other music library mgmt application to try out? It needs to run under gnome... thank you!
[10:21] <NoUse> SysFail maybe you should ask in #kubuntu
[10:21] <gepatino> siph0n-Lab is the file in the $PATH
[10:21] <joeljkp> mdeboer: got a vid in one free format (quicktime/mjpeg), want to transcode to a more compressed free format (mpeg1 or theora)
[10:21] <SysFail> k will try that
[10:21] <NoUse> fdr try banshee
[10:22] <mdeboer> joeljkp: you discard h.264 ?
[10:22] <SirKillalot> is there anyone with a Natural Keyboard Pro? Anyone managed setting hotkeys like "My Computer" (I mean the button on your keyboard)with the gnome keyboard shortcut utility?
[10:22] <CaMeL> yeah i've installed the rhythmbox but a prefer amorok, it looks better but doesn't work ;(;(
[10:22] <mdeboer> joeljkp: while not free, it is at least open
[10:22] <holycow> fdr, give banshee a try, i don't k now what you are looking for specifically tho
[10:22] <slew> someone !tell me about nvidia drivers, please. =] 
[10:22] <mdeboer> joeljkp: and i don't think the quality/bitrate can be beaten
[10:22] <misfit_toy> !nvidia
[10:22] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:23] <Siph0n-Lab> gepatino: im a little new, what $PATH?
[10:23] <fdr> holycow : me neither! :-)  I enjoyed winamp's music library interface, but beep-media-player lacks it, unfortunately
[10:23] <misfit_toy> fdr, install amaroK
[10:23] <gepatino> Siphon-Lab $PATH is an environment variable that stores the dirs where to find executable files
[10:24] <joeljkp> mdeboer: quicktime/mjpeg?
[10:24] <mdeboer> joeljkp: what?
[10:24] <fdr> misfit_toy : I'd like to, but I don't feel like installing tons of kde libs...
[10:24] <joeljkp> mdeboer: you don't think what quality/bitrate can be beaten?
[10:24] <gepatino> Siphon-Lab if the file youre trying to run is not in any of that dirs, you must especify the whole path at the command line
[10:24] <misfit_toy> fdr, it's worth it
[10:24] <WinZ> friends! What is the last kernel version?
[10:25] <Siph0n-Lab> gepatino, where can i find what it is? i see a PATH := $PATH:xxxxxxxxx in my Makefile
[10:25] <Siph0n-Lab> oh k
[10:25] <gepatino> Siphon-Lab for example, if you want to run mycommand, and the file is in the current dir, do:   ./mycommand
[10:25] <misfit_toy> fdr, besides, then you can use K3B too :)
[10:25] <blackhat> When I use Fluxbox I cannot open Firefox, but when I am in GNOME it works why is this?
[10:25] <Siph0n-Lab> oh k sweet :)
[10:25] <mdeboer> joeljkp: the quality per bitrate of h.264
[10:25] <blackhat> I try to run it and nothing happens
[10:25] <gepatino> Siphon-Lab to see the content of PATH:   echo $PATH
[10:25] <fdr> misfit_toy, why not switch to kubuntu, then? :-)
[10:26] <mdeboer> joeljkp: well, i suppose that's all a bit subjective, but to me, it looks really good
[10:26] <joeljkp> mdeboer: oh, right... but there's the patent problem
[10:26] <david_> Hello everyone
[10:26] <Siph0n-Lab> awesome thanx gepatino!!! :) works
[10:26] <misfit_toy> fdr, those two apps alone are worth putting the kde libs, so you can still run gnome but have the two best "other" apps
[10:26] <misfit_toy> fdr, because KDE sucks
[10:26] <mdeboer> joeljkp: yes, so, it depends on what you want to use it for
[10:26] <Kratos> I need to reconfigure xserver to use a different resolution. when I set it up, I used a resolution not supported by my monitor. How do I change it from the Live-CD?
[10:26] <gepatino> Siphon-Lab ;)
[10:27] <david_> anyone have a problem with breezy installer, i keep getting Ubuntu base systems failed from my ship-it CD's
[10:27] <mdeboer> Kratos: why from the livecd?
[10:27] <NoUse> david_ what kind of failure?
[10:27] <mdeboer> Kratos: just switch to a console (ctrl+alt+F1), and reconfigure it
[10:27] <Kratos> mdeboer: I can't use my HDD install, as it uses a resolution not supported by my monitor.
[10:27] <david_> it just says Ubuntu base systems failed
[10:28] <mdeboer> Kratos: yes you can. Ctrl+Alt+F1
[10:28] <^rob^> hi
[10:28] <mdeboer> Kratos: log in there, and do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:28] <jeff_> hey guys
[10:28] <jeff_> does amarok look okay in gnome?
[10:28] <^rob^> is there any fix for nvidia breezy X11 version err?
[10:28] <DShepherd> jeff_: yup
[10:28] <jeff_> because i really like amarok
[10:28] <eedge> amarok looks fine in gnome.
[10:28] <NoUse> david_ http://www.aims.ac.za/pipermail/aims-tech/2005-September/000209.html
[10:29] <jeff_> dsheperd: it looks just as good in gnome as in kde?
[10:29] <eedge> I like it too, and would use it if it wasn't for my pesky .wma's.
[10:29] <Urthmover> does anyone know much about sniffing with ethereal in here?
[10:29] <eedge> I really need to convert to .ogg somehow.
[10:29] <jeff_> yeah .ogg is nice
[10:29] <^rob^> anyone use nvidia here?
[10:29] <Urthmover> so I take that as a no for ethereal
[10:29] <NoUse> ^rob^ yes
[10:29] <jeff_> im trying to find a packet sniffer for my linksys wireless card
[10:29] <lmcabral> ubuntu 5.10 supports pctel modems?
[10:29] <mdeboer> eedge: what stops you?
[10:29] <SysFail> anybody have kaffeine working with the win32 codecs????
[10:31] <NoUse> SysFail I just search ubuntuforums and found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78535
[10:31] <navarone> rob > I have geforce3
[10:31] <zxsykco> ^rob^ install nvidia-glx and then run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and restart the xserver.
[10:31] <david_> cheers NoUse, i'll download a new ISO and burn it then try again
[10:31] <NoUse> david_ make sure verify with via md5sum
[10:31] <zxsykco> I have installed many nvidia geforce etc. drivers and they all work fine.
[10:31] <NoUse> !tell david_ about verify
[10:32] <navarone> rob > dl nvidia setting too...and you may have to edit xorg.conf to enable the accelerated settings
[10:32] <david_> probably cd problem, got a 4 meg conection that is very reliable, it has never let me down yet.
[10:33] <zxsykco> gandalf?
[10:33] <zxsykco> Was that you?
[10:33] <zxsykco> T_T
[10:34] <NoUse> !tell SysFail about msg
[10:34] <annex_> How can I find out what version of bittorrent does Breezy have?  I can't seem to a find a package repository listing
[10:34] <NoUse> SysFail no prob
[10:34] <SysFail> was just trying to tell you thanks man
[10:34] <SysFail> jesus christ
[10:34] <SysFail> cant even msg and say thanks?>
[10:35] <DShepherd> eedge: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/29/wma-to-ogg-file-conversion/ <-- wma to ogg
[10:35] <NoUse> SysFail, its IRC ettiquet
[10:35] <SysFail> ive been on irc for 14 years
[10:35] <SysFail> i understand
[10:35] <SysFail> but jesus man
[10:35] <NoUse> SysFail doesn't seem that way does it
[10:35] <SysFail> lets not get all anal about a simple msg
[10:36] <ompaul> SysFail, check the CoC - language does get you kicked here
[10:36] <SysFail> i wasnt some brazilian trying to get your ASL
[10:36] <ompaul> SysFail, check it from here  Info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
[10:36] <fdr> misfit_toy, could you please give me a hint about how do I get amarok to play mp3 files? It seems to be a codec problem, or something like that
[10:36] <LasseL> !mp3
[10:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:36] <SysFail> you guys need to seriously lighten up
[10:36] <zxsykco> Hey, Sysfail their are some convo nazi's lurking about, just make your peace and move on! ^_^
[10:36] <zxsykco> Ahem, there are...
[10:37] <mr-russ> is au.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[10:37] <misfit_toy> fdr, hmmm, you already have all the codecs?
[10:37] <ni1s> how do you restart the alsa deamon?
[10:37] <fdr> misfit_toy, well, rythmbox and xmms and beep-media-player work fine, so I guess so
[10:37] <mdeboer> nils: there is no alsa daemon
[10:37] <Seveas> ni1s, sudo invoke-rc.d alsa restart
[10:38] <misfit_toy> fdr, then you shouldn't need anything else, let me look at mine...
[10:38] <Seveas> (ok, not a daemon but all sound stuff)
[10:38] <ni1s> Thanks Seveas for reading what I meant
[10:38] <mdeboer> Seveas: i am not sure that that does do anything...
[10:38] <mdeboer> Seveas: isn't alsa handled by hotplug now?
[10:38] <ni1s> Nope, deprecated
[10:39] <Seveas> what the...
[10:39] <mdeboer> nils: but you can do a /etc/init.d/alsa force-reload
[10:39] <ion> hiya guys how is going.....
[10:39] <misfit_toy> fdr, I don't see anything in particular to configure in amaroK for mp3, and IIRC there was nothing to do but install it and fire it up.
[10:39] <misfit_toy> anybody else here have a pointer for amarok and mp3's?
[10:39] <mdeboer> nils: but why do you want to do this?
[10:39] <fdr> misfit_toy, did you install amarok or amarok-gstreamer ?
[10:39] <misfit_toy> fdr, just amarok
[10:39] <cafuego> Seveas: ooher, was it naughty (as well as retarded)?
[10:40] <ni1s> mdeboer, thank!
[10:40] <Seveas> cafuego, yup
[10:40] <ompaul> cafuego, it has not learned - it was asked to be polite
 I was signing off in a minute anyways and you guys are dicks sometimes!
[10:40] <ompaul> cafuego, and it used the n word
[10:40] <Seveas> that qualifies for a ban
[10:40] <cafuego> ompaul: I fully lost my temper with it last night.
[10:40] <mdeboer> nils: but what are you trying to do?
[10:40] <fdr> misfit_toy, hmm let me try, then, I went for amarok-gstreamer
[10:41] <ompaul> cafuego, whomsoever uses the n word on the internet looses
[10:41] <mdeboer> the n word??
[10:41] <poningru> whats going on now?
[10:41] <mdeboer> nuck?
[10:41] <lightseek> when I loaded Ubuntu today, and Gnome loaded, I noticed I was already connected to the Internet without dialing out yet!  What causes this?
[10:41] <mdeboer> nuck you!
[10:41] <misfit_toy> necrophilia?
[10:41] <poningru> nozilla?
[10:41] <Seveas> mdeboer, no, the n word with 4 letters that ends with azi
[10:41] <lightseek> does Ubuntu have a boot script to dial out using my modem as Ubuntu loads?
[10:41] <poningru> nubuntu?
[10:41] <Seveas> and now lets stop it
[10:41] <Seveas> and get back on topic
[10:42] <misfit_toy> fdr, lemme know what happens
[10:42] <lightseek> can anyone tell me please?
[10:42] <gepatino> lightseek check in the net configuration tool if ppp0 is set as auto connect or something like that
[10:42] <Urthmover> does nagios run on ubuntu?
[10:42] <ni1s> Conclusion; Flashplayer sound sync will never work..... :(
[10:42] <cafuego> Speaking of, when going through old donated books @ a high school library last weekend I found an *actual* yellow star
[10:42] <lightseek> gepatino: in the net configuration tool?  where is that?
[10:43] <fdr> misfit_toy, sure I will
[10:43] <erUSUL> lightseek, run 'pon' at start up
[10:43] <gepatino> lightseek: System/Administration/Nework
[10:43] <lightseek> erUSUL: i didnt need to run pon,
[10:43] <lightseek> erUSUL: when I loaded Ubuntu today, and Gnome loaded, I noticed I was already connected to the Internet without dialing out yet!  What causes this?
[10:43] <Stormx2> The school technicians have banned me from the network after i hacked it and net sent.
[10:43] <cafuego> lightseek: You can add a stanza for 'ppp0' in /etc/network/interfaces. Check the man page (man 5 interfaces) for samples.
[10:43] <Stormx2> So live ubuntu cd here I come!
[10:43] <david_> bye people
[10:43] <gepatino> bye
[10:43] <Stormx2> bai
[10:44] <Stormx2> I'm going to get an early night sometime
[10:44] <Kratos> What terminal commands do I use to reconfigure XServer?
[10:44] <ion> I don't know if the question is suitable for here but where shall I find one compiler ( C++) to install on linux ?
[10:44] <WS> what is command to configure network without gui?
[10:44] <Stormx2> !xorg
[10:44] <ubotu> somebody said xorg was to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:44] <blueblood> Hmm, anyone know whats up with the enlightenment homepage?
[10:44] <cafuego> WS: $EDITOR /etc/network/interfaces; ifconfig; etherconf
[10:44] <WS> thanks
[10:44] <Kratos> ty
[10:44] <WS> etherconf isnt installed I dont believe
[10:44] <lightseek> gepatino: the only thing ticked in System/Administration/Nework is "enable this connection" under ppp0.  Would that be causing it to dial out on its own during boot?
[10:45] <poningru> WS: you can also try network magic
[10:45] <Stormx2> !botsnack
[10:45] <ubotu> thanks stormx2 :)
[10:45] <poningru> !info network magic
[10:45] <Volkan> squid with http://www.example.com Why am I getting ``Proxy Access Denied?''
[10:45] <lightseek> cafuego: whats a stanza?
[10:45] <Volkan> ?
[10:45] <cafuego> !+dict stanza
[10:45] <ubotu> Dictionary 'stanza' a fixed number of lines of verse forming a unit of a poem
[10:45] <Stormx2> Oh clever!
[10:45] <Stormx2> I like it!
[10:45] <gepatino> lightseek, try editing the file /etc/network/interfaces and see if you have a line like auto ppp0
[10:45] <poningru> scratch that its not network magic
[10:46] <Stormx2> !+dict antidisestablishmentarianism
[10:46] <ubotu> could not find definition for antidisestablishmentarianism
[10:46] <Stormx2> :(
[10:46] <ion> and how shall I set up java tools on ubuntu as well
[10:46] <Stormx2> !java
[10:46] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:46] <Volkan> squid with http://www.example.com Why am I getting ``Proxy Access Denied?'' ?
[10:47] <mr-russ> Volkan: squid is configured to only allow connections from localhost.
[10:47] <cafuego> Volkan: Did you not add your network address/netnask to the allowed ACLs in the squid config file?
[10:47] <Gdp_usrlam> im looking for OpenAFS pdf documentation, anyone knows where to find some???
[10:47] <Volkan> give me an example acl
[10:47] <cafuego> acl localnet 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0
[10:48] <ion> ubotu: that's is for me?
[10:48] <ubotu> ion: what are you talking about?
[10:48] <cafuego> the config file is full of COMMENETD samples.
[10:48] <Volkan> acl KOCNET src 192.168.0.0/24
[10:48] <Volkan> http_access allow KOCNET
[10:48] <cafuego> Check the one for 'http-acess'
[10:48] <ion> ubotu: I asked how to set up java tools on ubuntu...
[10:48] <ubotu> ion: Bugger all, i dunno
[10:48] <Seveas> ion, ubotu is a bot
[10:48] <cafuego> Volkan: Yep, did you restart squid after that?
[10:48] <ion> ubotu:what ?
[10:48] <ubotu> What what, ion?
[10:48] <bnD> ubotu java
[10:48] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:49] <cafuego> !bot
[10:49] <ubotu> I'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to cafuego? I think not. Bot, spot, chicken... rhyming sucks.
[10:49] <Volkan> nothing
[10:49] <ion> ubotu: sorry I ca'n undertand you...
[10:49] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, ion
[10:49] <bnD> jsz: do i know you?
[10:49] <DShepherd> lol @ ubotu
[10:49] <fdr> misfit_toy, very strange. apt-getting amarok leads to the install of the very same packages as did amarok-gstreamer, yet this time it works out of the box
[10:49] <bnD> jsz: efnet?
[10:50] <cevizoglu> ion: don't talk to the bot, he only answers to keywords
[10:50] <orbx> does anyone know where i can get the AVI plugins for totem movie player, are they avaliable at the synaptic package manager?
[10:50] <NoUse> ion ubotu is not a human, he is a robot
[10:50] <bnD> ubotu tell orbx avi
[10:50] <bnD> ubotu avi
[10:50] <ubotu> hmm... avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:50] <ion> NoUse: you crazy :)
[10:50] <NoUse> ion I'm not the one talking to a bot :-)
[10:51] <Sarvell> anybody know how to troubleshoot no tv signal
[10:51] <orbx> ion i made the same mistake earlier :(
[10:51] <bnD> how sad
[10:51] <lokm> hi again... I've one more problem.. I installed Verlihub on my ubuntu but then I  wanted to login it gave me something like: You're not able for enter to the memory (SIGSEGV)... Can u help pls?
[10:51] <ion> NoUse : serious....
[10:51] <NoUse> ion hmm?
[10:52] <ion> NoUse: you joke are you ???:)
[10:52] <robotgeek> Sarvell: on your monitor?
[10:52] <NoUse> ion no
[10:52] <bnD> i think this is the first time ive seen someone other than ChanServ opped up in here, makes me nervous ;)
[10:52] <orbx> goodbye
[10:52] <NoUse> ubotu tell ion about yourself
[10:52] <bnD> ion: is english your primary language?
[10:52] <cafuego> lokm: That's bad programming,
[10:52] <ion> bnD: no...
[10:53] <navarone> ion > ubotu is a "bot"...a service in channelthat spews info and keeps things in check
[10:53] <poningru> ubotu: avahi
[10:53] <ubotu> poningru: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:53] <ion> bnD: is so bad ;(.
[10:53] <lokm> cafuego: What does it mean? Or what should I do? This version of verlihub I can run on every another Linux :(
[10:53] <cafuego> !ubotu
[10:53] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[10:53] <ion> navarone: all right....
[10:53] <cafuego> lokm: Dunno, no idea what 'verlihub' is.
[10:54] <spiff> I'm getting a strange error when trying to mount a partition; it says "device alrady mounted or /mountpoint busy", when neither are true. Is this a known bug?
[10:54] <Sarvell> anyone know how to install/configure tv tuners?
[10:54] <GTswagger> I do
[10:54] <Niomi> i have a problem with xorg taking up a large amount of resources in gnome, i've done some searches but i haven't found a good solution yet. i'm using KDE now but i miss gnome. does anyone have a good link or suggestion for me?
[10:54] <lokm> cafuego: do u know Direct connect? Its DC Server ;) but I'm sad I have to be ready for twoo weeks
[10:54] <linuxmania> spiff: have you tried umount anyway?
[10:55] <GTswagger> I have a Hauppauge PVR-250 on my Gentoo desktop MythTV system.
[10:55] <cafuego> lokm: I do know that SIGSEGV is BAD. it means the application is trying to access memory that it has no allocated, so the kernel kicked out out of ram. (Linux doesn't accept that sort of windows-like behaviour).
[10:55] <GTswagger> What is your question Sarvell?
[10:55] <spiff> linuxmania: yes. the disk is not mounted. I've even hdparm -w'd and strace'd
[10:55] <vegos> im having trouble with my wireless, when i run the iwconfig commands to change the settings, nothing gets changed
[10:55] <Sarvell> Ive got a stupid one that installs but doesnt detect signal
[10:55] <NoUse> spiff run lsof and see if the mount point is listed
[10:55] <cafuego> spiff: Are you in /mountpoint?
[10:55] <lazyant> spiff: you can use the fuser command to check if a process is holdin git, llike fuser -u /mnt
[10:55] <spiff> NoUse: it's not
[10:55] <GTswagger> Niomi - I am sorry to inform you, but Gnome is a huge resource hog compared to KDE.    It uses 99% CPU to open up a friggin terminal.
[10:55] <linuxmania> spiff: strange, I've never experienced that issue, so i would assume it is a bug, but couldnt be certain
[10:56] <Seveas> GTswagger, rofl
[10:56] <spiff> lazyant: fuser gives me nothing, like lsof
[10:56] <cevizoglu> lazyant: heh, you said git
[10:56] <lokm> cafuego: I ran this version of verlihub on ubuntu, month ago and went great, but now it gives me this :(
[10:56] <spiff> cafuego: no
[10:56] <Seveas> KDE is the hog
[10:56] <robotgeek> vegos: what wireless card?
[10:56] <poningru> vegos: has it ever worked?
[10:56] <vegos> broadcomm, im using ndiswrapper
[10:56] <lazyant> I don't know what that word means, I guess some verbotten one
[10:56] <navarone> spiff > off hand I'd say you could savea  little memory if you disable the number of terminals ubuntu uses...the ones you access via ctrl+alt+F# key
[10:56] <vegos> not on ubuntu
[10:56] <Niomi> GTswagger: but it'll use up 777MB of memory out of my gig. many computers on gnome don't even have that much memory. :/
[10:56] <GTswagger> Seveas:  my Gentoo laptop and Gentoo desktop beg to differ
[10:56] <cafuego> lokm: Did you upgrade anything recently?
[10:56] <spiff> navarone: huh?
[10:56] <Seveas> GTswagger, that's gentoos fault
[10:57] <Seveas> or maybe your CFLAGS
[10:57] <robotgeek> vegos: then what are you doing in a #ubuntu channel? (unless your are on debian or something)
[10:57] <cafuego> GTswagger: KDE uses by FAR more cpu cycles to do anything than Gnome.
[10:57] <poningru> GTswagger: I am telling you gnome is much better mem handler than kde
[10:57] <lokm> cafuego: yop I updated all updated it showed me ;)
[10:57] <Niomi> GTswagger: rather, it uses up a small amount (100ish) at start up, then slowly increase as it's been running. i need to restart gnome at least daily.
[10:57] <GTswagger> Seveas:  Gnome is just plain slower.   Now if you have all the insane eye candy on in KDE; then we can rediscuss which is quicker ;)
[10:57] <poningru> vegos: so...?
[10:57] <GTswagger> Niomi - That's actually somewhat normal
[10:57] <poningru> ok lets not start a flame war here
[10:57] <cafuego> Niomi: Do you have the xdamage transparency extension enabled?
[10:57] <Seveas> poningru, sensible
[10:57] <GTswagger> Niomi - Linux views empty RAM as a total waste
[10:57] <vegos> no im new to ubuntu
[10:57] <linuxmania> Niomi: have you looked at the xsession-errors file
[10:58] <vegos> and im having trouble setting up the wireless
[10:58] <ion> so guys let me ask again
[10:58] <navarone> sorry spiff...i meant niomi I think
[10:58] <GTswagger> Niomi - Linux uses 95% of your RAM as cache
[10:58] <poningru> vegos: ah so it worked under other distro but doesnt work under ubuntu?
[10:58] <GTswagger> Niomi - if you're looking at top -- memory free is a lie; much of it is cache
[10:58] <si> I'm trying to create a CD image using the command dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/image.iso. An image file is created but it is slightly smaller than the original downloaded iso. Obviously the md5sums then don't match. Can anyone help?
[10:58] <Hanson128> !xorg
[10:58] <ubotu> well, xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:58] <robotgeek> vegos: have you read the wireless wiki?
[10:58] <ion> you guys no how to install java tools.....?
[10:58] <cafuego> !java
[10:58] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:58] <Seveas> GTswagger, free ram is a waste
[10:58] <vegos> yes
[10:58] <Seveas> what good is it if you don't use it?
[10:58] <robotgeek> ubotu tell vegos about wireless
[10:58] <spiff> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=1728118 <- this thread details my problem, but the solution in "install debian."
[10:59] <lsuactiafner> si : prolly differant inode block sizes
[10:59] <GTswagger> Seveas - I understand that, and that's what I am explaining to Niomi... Linux views unused RAM as a waste; which it is.
[10:59] <ion> and C++ compiler too
[10:59] <cafuego> Seveas: It's preeeeetty and shiny... prrrreeeeecccciousssssss......
[10:59] <lsuactiafner> causes the difference
[10:59] <spiff> which is, somewhat inadequate
[10:59] <lsuactiafner> shouldnt matter
[10:59] <robotgeek> vegos: follow the link to the broadcom installation from there
[10:59] <vegos> ok ill give it a try but i think ive read this one as well
[10:59] <robotgeek> vegos: hmm,kk
[10:59] <bnD> ubotu tell ion about gcc
[11:00] <si> lsuactiafner:Thanks for the reply. How can I make the inode block sizes match?
[11:00] <cafuego> Seveas: It tends to vary with moon phases
[11:00] <bnD> ubotu tell ion about java
[11:00] <navarone> GTswagger > is it possible in ubuntu to lower the number of virtual terminals that linux initializes in order to save ram...or is it likely to make a difference?
[11:00] <poningru> vegos: dude which card exactly are you using?
[11:01] <cafuego> Seveas: Incidentally, *!*@85.99.51.148
[11:01] <cafuego> Well, OR that ;-)
[11:01] <poningru> woah
[11:01] <unu> am i the only one around here thinking that a lot of apps from universe don't work at all?
[11:01] <Seveas> cafuego, I like to think big
[11:01] <unu> xdm/bbpager/...
[11:01] <ion> bnD: cheers man but I can't d o things to  complicated because I'm newbie...
[11:01] <cafuego> Seveas: *!*@8* ? ;-)
[11:01] <bnD> wow
[11:01] <Seveas> ion, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[11:01] <Seveas> click on java
[11:01] <Seveas> click on the version you want
[11:01] <GTswagger> navarone --> virtual terminals aren't too memory intensive; but I"m not familiar with Ubuntu's use of them.   I'm a big Gentoo fan;  here helping out a friend who's jumping into linux his first time
[11:01] <ion> bnD: always I hava a problem to install things from the terminal....
[11:01] <GTswagger> (vegos)
[11:02] <Seveas> download the deb
[11:02] <Seveas> and install
[11:02] <navarone> Gtswagger > okie...just wondering cos I recall doing it in mandrake 8.1 or 9.2 but do not recall the procedure
[11:03] <cafuego> navarone: It won't make any difference.
[11:03] <GTswagger> navarone -- cool!  I learned Linux on Mandrake 8.0
[11:03] <gepatino> navarone: try commenting the lines that have /sbin/getty in /etc/inittab and reboot
[11:03] <trappist> navarone: /etc/inittab
[11:03] <GTswagger> navarone -- Mandrake was great back in the day; but from what I've heard Mandriva is nothing like the goodness Mandrake use to be.
[11:03] <ion> Seveas: cool man you're the guy thank you.....
[11:03] <cafuego> gepatino: 'init q' will do, thankyou. No rebooting required.
[11:03] <earthdog> woot!  ndis works!
[11:03] <gepatino> navarone: but at least leave one
[11:03] <Sarvell> i am not sure how to troubleshoot no signal on my tv card...
[11:03] <cafuego> navarone: Seems like a lot of work for 200Kb of extra free ram, though.
[11:04] <Seveas> Sarvell, plug in the cable?
[11:04] <Sarvell> haha
[11:04] <gepatino> cafuego thanks, i dind't know that one
[11:04] <GTswagger> navarone -- I used Mandrake 8.0, 8.2, 9.0, 9.1, 10.0 before moving onto Gentoo b/c Mandrake wasn't as powerful as I wanted it to be for MythTV; and I was tired of doing reinstalls to do updates.
[11:04] <navarone> Gtswagger...i have used caldera, mandrake (3 versions) and almost fell for Corel when it was around...and yes...Mandrake was by far the easiest back in the day...especially the partioning...lol
[11:04] <vegos> Im using a broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN
[11:04] <gepatino> cafuego does that reload inittab?
[11:04] <Seveas> !tell vegos about ndiswrapper
[11:04] <vegos> ive installed ndiswrapper
[11:04] <vegos> and wrapped the windows driver
[11:04] <cafuego> gepatino: man 8 init -> Q or q tell init to re-examine the /etc/inittab file
[11:05] <Sarvell> woops
[11:05] <gepatino> cafuego ... just reading that... thanks
[11:05] <bnD> my / partition is 97% full :O
[11:05] <GTswagger> bnD -- rm -rf /       ;)
[11:05] <bnD> GTswagger: lol i think ill go use gparted instead :P
[11:05] <navarone> gepatino / trappist >thanks for the headsup...but not really worried about the ram myself...was just curious
[11:05] <fdr> misfit_toy, btw, did you also manage to have amarok retrieve an mp3 details by using musicbrainz? For every file I try, it says it can't find it in the musicbrainz database... Thanks!
[11:06] <bnD> time to steal the neighbors net, brb
[11:06] <GTswagger> lol
[11:06] <ttcsvin> what ubuntu program is good to record cds?
[11:06] <vegos> for example: i will do----sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "myessid" , but when i enter iwconfig the wlan0 still has essid as off/any
[11:06] <inva|id> fdr: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85541&highlight=amarok+musicbrainz
[11:06] <Sarvell> how do i update the driver for my tv card?
[11:06] <robotgeek> fdr: the libtunepimp application has been compiled without mp3 support
[11:07] <navarone> bnD> I just installed new 250 gigger so i used the installation prog to setup partitions and format...leaving space unused for ubuntu. Took a few tries...and had to flash bios for large drive
[11:07] <cafuego> ttcsvin: gnomebaker seems to work, just insert a blank CD and wait for the dialog.
[11:07] <misfit_toy> fdr, amarok has it's own database IIRC
[11:07] <ttcsvin> thanks cafuego
[11:07] <GTswagger> vegos:  This is a Gentoo ndiswrapper guide many people have found very successful.  Give it a try, ignoring Gentoo commands like "emerge" and keeping in mind to use Ubuntu stuff like sudo
[11:07] <GTswagger> vegos: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=125627
[11:08] <NoUse> !ndiswrapper
[11:08] <ubotu> [ndiswrapper]  a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[11:08] <navarone> GTswagger > have booted from systemrescue cd and it is based on Gentoo...i remember being impressed at the hardware detection...even my onboard sound
[11:08] <robotgeek> GTswagger: would it be too much to ask you to port that guide to ubuntu? :)
[11:08] <fdr> inva|id, thanks
[11:08] <inva|id> fdr: sure
[11:08] <DShepherd> how can I install opengl libraries?
[11:09] <DShepherd> I;m trying to install a game and it tells me I dont have opengl installed
[11:09] <ttcsvin> how can i view my ubuntu version?
[11:09] <poningru> DShepherd: they should be installed already
[11:09] <cafuego> DShepherd: If you did a normal Ubuintu install, they're already on your system.
[11:09] <robotgeek> ttcsvin: cat /etc/issue
[11:09] <GTswagger> robotgeek --- right now; yes...busy doing schoolwork and preparing a 1U rackmount server with Gentoo :)
[11:09] <DShepherd> ttcsvin: cat /etc/issue
[11:10] <poningru> ttcsvin: or system->About Ubuntu
[11:10] <ttcsvin> thanks all :)
[11:10] <ni1s> DShepherd, or do you mean the -dev libraries?
[11:10] <robotgeek> GTswagger: hmm, okay.
[11:10] <Seveas> GTswagger, no offense, but what does a gentoo user do in an ubuntu support channel?
[11:10] <GTswagger> Seveas - helping a bud here who is using Linux for the first time
[11:10] <DShepherd> ni1s: yeah that's what I need
[11:10] <Niomi> GTswagger: (sorry i didn't respond right away, i had to answer nature's call) it's not cached memory, xorg is using it. sometimes it will use a large amount of CPU as well.
[11:10] <GTswagger> Seveas -- vegos, in specific
[11:11] <Seveas> GTswagger, that are the good gentoo users :)
[11:11] <jarski> anybody, how "search" for deb packages? apt-get dont have the option.
[11:11] <jarski> ?
[11:11] <trappist> apt-cache search
[11:11] <inva|id> jarski: apt-cache
[11:11] <poningru> woah a gentoo user that doesnt say RTFM
[11:11] <Seveas> There have been 'inicidents' with funroll-loops.org prototypical users here :)
[11:11] <poningru> sorry dude couldnt resist
[11:11] <jarski> cache is for packages in net too?
[11:11] <Pedrolito> does ubuntu support glitz out of the box?
[11:11] <GTswagger> Seveas:  95% of Gentoo'ers a great Linux people.   And it's Debian guys who scream RTFM.
[11:11] <Seveas> Pedrolito, not yet
[11:11] <vegos> be back, im going to give this a try
[11:11] <jarski> apt-cache I ment..
[11:11] <Seveas> GTswagger, the #debian guys are the worst indeed
[11:12] <DShepherd> ni1s: I did a aptitude search opengl and alot stuff came up. Which of the dev should I go for
[11:12] <ni1s> DShepherd, 'sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dev' or if you got nvidia you want the nvidia-glx-dev
[11:12] <GTswagger> Now - if I could just get the guys on LugRadio to stop bashing Gentoo...... ;)
[11:12] <DShepherd> ni1s: ati here
[11:12] <Red-Sox> how do you set esd back to default?
[11:13] <Stormx2> GTswagger: RTFM?
[11:13] <Seveas> GTswagger, the lugradio guys love Ubuntu :)
[11:13] <robotgeek> Red-Sox: what do you mean, default?
[11:13] <poningru> they do?
[11:13] <GTswagger> Storm2 - RTFM = Read The F***ing Manual
[11:13] <Stormx2> GTswagger: haha
[11:13] <Seveas> GTswagger, s/F-word/Friendly/
[11:13] <DShepherd> ni1s: that should do it?
[11:13] <GTswagger> Seveas -- I noticed... I felt it would become X-rated when they talked of Mark Shuttleworth coming to LugRadio live  lol  ;)
[11:14] <Seveas> hehe
[11:14] <Sarvell> anyone i have an ASUS PVR-416 any ideas how to troubleshoot /get it to work properly?
[11:14] <ni1s> DShepherd, http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/ubuntu-fglrx-breezy/fglrx-driver-dev_8.19.10-1_i386.deb
[11:14] <Red-Sox> robotgeek: rm...i dont exactly know, i tampered around with it a bit thismorning and...er...i dont remember much about it
[11:14] <bnD> anyone recommend an app for downloading mucho binaries from usenet? <3
[11:14] <navarone> Seveas > I figure use whatever works...but so far ubuntu has been a smooth sail as far as fixing little config issues and such. And that comes down to users supporting other users...in irc/forums whatever...so it's all good
[11:14] <ni1s> DShepherd, cant find them in the repos, dont know thy? anyone?
[11:14] <ion> the information on gcc is too much I just want a compiler please...that's it....
[11:15] <poningru> bnD: thunderbird
[11:15] <ion> and how to set up it
[11:15] <Seveas> navarone, yeah, the community behind Ubuntu is terrific
[11:15] <Seveas> ion, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:15] <Seveas> that will give you gcc, g++, basic headers
[11:15] <Seveas> everything to get started
[11:16] <GTswagger> I have given Ubuntu two honest tries and been very disappointed both times :(
[11:16] <Seveas> GTswagger, too bad
[11:16] <GTswagger> I tried Ubuntu on a 400 Mhz Celeron Mendocino desktop; it wouldn't boot after install.
[11:16] <ion> Seveas:cheers man...
[11:16] <jarski> so whats the alternative?
[11:16] <gnomefreak> sorry to hear that GTswagger
[11:16] <navarone> Seveas > my first issue was mouse frozen...solved...and then setting up nvidia drivers (Which then let me play penguin planet racer..."whooosh..."
[11:16] <GTswagger> I tried Ubuntu on a Compaq Presario R3000Z laptop; and it didn't recognize the keyboard (OOF!)
[11:16] <robotgeek> Red-Sox: did you mess with /etc/esound/esd.conf
[11:16] <Seveas> but hey, if it ain't broken - don't fix it. So if gentoo works for you - i'd be the last to say you MUST switch :)
[11:16] <madmike> Ha, found out how to migrate my mails from evolution to thunderbird
[11:16] <poningru> GTswagger: you may wanna tri microubuntu
[11:16] <Seveas> GTroyZZzzz, that's a big ouch...
[11:17] <Seveas> GTswagger*
[11:17] <poningru> GTswagger: for the first one
[11:17] <kinkoblast> How do I change the color depth? I use XFCE, but I want this to effect xterm mode, too.
[11:17] <DShepherd> ni1s: still bugs out..when trying to isntall....
[11:17] <GTswagger> poningru - I have Gentoo on that laptop and Fedora on the desktop now; and they are making both end users happy thus far
[11:17] <poningru> GTswagger: and give it a try again with breezy if you didnt the first time
[11:17] <poningru> GTswagger: but can they configure it?
[11:18] <GTswagger> I used breezy on the desktop; hoary on the laptop
[11:18] <DShepherd> does anyone have a problem with me pasting 2 lines?
[11:18] <Seveas> GTswagger, as long as it's free software :)
[11:18] <ni1s> DShepherd, I'n no ATI expert, but what dose it say?
[11:18] <poningru> err use it I mean
[11:18] <lightseek> how can I run firestarter without sudo?
[11:18] <Seveas> DShepherd, if they're short lines not :)
[11:18] <poningru> but again this is turning into a flame war
[11:18] <Seveas> lightseek, not
[11:18] <robotgeek> GTswagger: copy the relevant config files from gentoo, and use in breezy :)
[11:18] <dell500> i just did sudo chown -R dell500:dell500 /media/raid0/ but it still doesn't give me permission  to write these files
[11:18] <DShepherd> checking for gluLookAt in -lGLU... no
[11:18] <DShepherd> configure: error: Error! You do not have OpenGL
[11:18] <Seveas> poningru, i disagree, healthy discussion is better
[11:18] <GTswagger> poningru:   can they configure it?  not sure what you mean?
[11:18] <lightseek> Seveas: it says i shouldnt run firestarter as sudo, but I cant run it without sudo
[11:18] <poningru> baah takes away from help
[11:18] <DShepherd> ni1s: that's the error
[11:18] <Seveas> DShepherd, libglu-dev (oslt) is what you need
[11:18] <ni1s> DShepherd, Ah! Its looking for glut
[11:18] <blueblood> Got any tip for good text editors? Getting kinda tired of Gedit :/ I like UltraEdit, but it takes ages to start with wine
[11:18] <madmike> dell500: did you check your fstab?
[11:19] <Seveas> DShepherd, what are you trying to compile?
[11:19] <lightseek> Seveas: Firewall started
[11:19] <lightseek> You should really not run firefox through sudo
[11:19] <robotgeek> blueblood: there's nedit or gvim
[11:19] <GTswagger> robotgeek -- I dunno; my g/f rather likes portage.   The only other software installer she liked before it was the old Mandrake era one.
[11:19] <dell500> madmike, nope, /etc/fstab??
[11:19] <madmike> yes
[11:19] <lightseek> Seveas: any ideas?
[11:19] <Seveas> *firefox*?
[11:19] <ion> Seveas: take a look that :0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:19] <jarski> uhm... cpuspeed missing from hoary... not found neither with search..
[11:19] <DShepherd> Seveas: a game, pong2
[11:19] <madmike> dell500 yes
[11:19] <kinkoblast> blueblood: ed!
[11:19] <Seveas> you said firestarter
[11:19] <dell500> madmike, what should i be looking for?
[11:19] <blueblood> hehe, not ed :P
[11:19] <kinkoblast> ?
[11:19] <dell500> madmike, options?
[11:19] <ispiked> does anyone know if the 5.10 kernel comes with the sata_resume/suspend patch built-in?
[11:19] <ion> Seveas: is already on my pc...
[11:19] <gnomefreak> lightseek,  if you have a grafical desktop why not run apps from the menus?
[11:19] <madmike> dell500 something like 'ro'
[11:19] <GTswagger> I was answering robotgeek poningru :P
[11:20] <poningru> oh hehe
[11:20] <Seveas> ion, good, so it's there :)
[11:20] <dell500> madmike, /dev/md0	/media/raid0	auto	defaults	0	0
[11:20] <kinkoblast> Hey, how do I set my colordepth to 16 bit?
[11:20] <ni1s> DShepherd, libglut3-dev
[11:20] <ion> Seveas: tthe question is how shall I find :(
[11:20] <madmike> type 'mount' in your console
[11:20] <Seveas> ion, just type gcc in the terminal
[11:20] <Seveas> ion, what are you trying to accomplish?
[11:20] <madmike> and look if its (rw)
[11:21] <madmike> dell500 and look if its (rw)
[11:21] <dell500> madmike, it does
[11:21] <Red-Sox> robotgeek: im getting a command not found for that one
[11:21] <ni1s> It bothers me that celestia in repos is version 1.32
[11:21] <madmike> dell500, does it have a mode too?
[11:21] <robotgeek> Red-Sox: i was asking you "How did you *mess* with esd"?
[11:21] <ion> Seveas: well I bought a book rigth and try to  learn ...
[11:22] <dell500> madmike, /dev/md0 on /media/raid0 type ext2 (rw)
[11:22] <lightbright> gnomefreak: firestarter is not shown in the menu, i have to type it in shell
[11:22] <DShepherd> Seveas, ni1s: that worked...it needs another file
[11:22] <Seveas> ion, good, then keep on reading ;)
[11:22] <lightbright> gnomefreak: how can I add firestarter to the auto load?
[11:22] <madmike> dell500, sorry then i'm out of options :/
[11:22] <DShepherd> Seveas, ni1s: checking for SDLNet_Init in -lSDL_net... no
[11:22] <navarone> lightbright look in application/system tools
[11:22] <gnomefreak> lightbright, after installing it did you restart your xsession?
[11:22] <ni1s> DShepherd, last error message is?
[11:22] <lightbright> gnomefreak: yes
[11:22] <Seveas> DShepherd, libsdl2.0-dev (iirc)
[11:22] <Red-Sox> robotgeek: well...i typed in some command that i got on the internet, up came a dialog box, and that site said to change everything in the audio box to alsa or something like that
[11:22] <Seveas> long live apt-cache searc
[11:22] <Seveas> h
[11:23] <holycow> *hmmm*
[11:23] <lightbright> navarone: yeah its in application/system tools, fancy that :P
[11:23] <gnomefreak> lightbright, it should be there than mine is
[11:23] <robotgeek> Red-Sox: hmm, try System -> Preferences -> Multimedia Selector
[11:23] <navarone> lightbright > sometimes you have to dig
[11:24] <lightbright> gnomefreak: yeah, navarone was right,. its in application/system tools, fancy that :P
[11:24] <lightbright> navarone:  thanks :)
[11:24] <ion> Seveas: biginning programming..but I need compiler the book teels me how to do that on windows but I don't want to...if you know what I mean I want to swich off from windows......no windows anymore.....
[11:24] <gnomefreak> lol lightbright
[11:24] <ispiked> what does the power.sh script do in /etc/acpi?
[11:24] <Red-Sox> robotgeek: AH! that was it!
[11:24] <navarone> lightbright > np...btw...what part of aussie you in?
[11:24] <lightbright> navarone: now how do I add firestarter to run and load by itself everythime Ubuntu loads please?
[11:24] <lightbright> navarone: Sydney
[11:24] <robotgeek> Red-Sox: cool, hv fun!
[11:24] <Red-Sox> is there a good solution to kxdocker?
[11:25] <gnomefreak> cron maybe???
[11:25] <pluffsy> how do I find a line that contains a certain word in a big text file from cli?
[11:25] <robotgeek> pluffsy: man grep :)
[11:25] <kinkoblast> Red-Sox: XFCE panel?
[11:25] <ni1s> DShepherd, you probably want the libsdl-net1.2
[11:25] <dell500> madmike, you know how to find out what 'group' you're in?
[11:25] <ni1s> DShepherd, you probably want the libsdl-net1.2-dev even
[11:25] <navarone> lightbright? I think it loads automatically...you just need to use the applicatio/sytem tools menu to get to see it in action and to configure if need be
[11:25] <pluffsy> robotgeek: I'm trying to use grep and pipe from cat. but gaah I suck, I don't get any hits.
[11:25] <lightbright> navarone: yeah did that and it doesnt load by itself
[11:25] <DShepherd> ok ni1s
[11:25] <ni1s> DShepherd, What are you compiling if you dont mind me asking?
[11:26] <gnomefreak> navarone, it should run by default behind the sceens
[11:26] <Red-Sox> kinkoblast: but...you cant run that in gnome,right?
[11:26] <DShepherd> ni1s: pong^2
[11:26] <navarone> gnomefreak> yes...but not according to what he is sying
[11:26] <lightbright> if I want to make a mirror image copy of /home from one hard drive to another, would I ise rsync command?
[11:26] <faol> looking for some one to help me configure my voip
[11:26] <navarone> *saying
[11:26] <GTswagger> BTW; as I wait for vegos to return;  Has anybody heard a response from the LAME guys about Sony voilating the GPL and stealing their code?
[11:26] <robotgeek> pluffsy: did you try using -i for case insensitiveness?
[11:26] <Janbanan> What is SVG?
[11:26] <kinkoblast> Red-Sox: Gnome? Bah. XFCE is much nicer.
[11:26] <kinkoblast> !svg
[11:26] <dell500> just wondering, in my /etc/group file should there be a user named hal or something?
[11:26] <ubotu> kinkoblast: I give up, what is it?
[11:27] <kinkoblast> weee
[11:27] <gnomefreak> theres a list proccess command isnt there?
[11:27] <fluke> pll how can i solv this http://pastebin.com/432334
[11:27] <madmike> dell500 hmmm from cli i don't know... but there is a tool
[11:27] <Janbanan> !svg
[11:27] <kinkoblast> Janbanan:Scalable Vector Graphics.
[11:27] <robotgeek> fluke: did you use any unofficial repos?
[11:27] <GTswagger> good job kinkoblast; you blew his brain with those big words.   ;)
[11:28] <navarone> gnomefreak > wouldn't firestarter show up in system monitor if it was running?
[11:28] <ni1s> fluke, what are you trying to do?
[11:28] <madmike> dell500 System -> 2 Entry  (i'm on a german ubuntu) -> Users and Groups
[11:28] <Seveas> GTswagger, http://geekz.co.uk
[11:28] <pluffsy> robotgeek, i'm probably just not getting regex. this is what I type: cat file.txt | grep "*word*"
[11:28] <ttcsvin> what ubuntu program is good to record cds?
[11:28] <Red-Sox> kinkoblast: i know, i just cant get used to it
[11:28] <fluke> robotgeek, update to breasy
[11:28] <`sheep> i installed ubuntu, but after first boot system was just waiting, i got no progress (no X, nothing)
[11:28] <gnomefreak> not sure if the grafical moniter shows all processes
[11:28] <robotgeek> pluffsy: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:28] <ni1s> ttcsvin, Gnomebaker is nice
[11:28] <lightbright> if I wanted to copy /home to /mnt/home , should I type: cp -a * /mnt/home ?
[11:29] <trappist> pluffsy: | grep 'word'
[11:29] <ttcsvin> thanks nils
[11:29] <trappist> pluffsy: or, grep 'word' file.txt
[11:29] <dell500> madmike, thanks
[11:29] <madmike> dell500 ur welcome ;)
[11:29] <ni1s> `sheep, something wrong with your X config maybe, try <Ctrl><Alt>Backspace
[11:29] <pluffsy> trappist, ahh thanks
[11:30] <ttcsvin> in what page can i search packages?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> what does command "pr" do?
[11:30] <`sheep> how can anything be wrong with it, it didn't even start
[11:30] <`sheep> and after i started recovery mode
[11:30] <`sheep> x isn't even installed
[11:30] <ni1s> `sheep, try 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:30] <gnomefreak> i typed "pr" and enter than it went to next line without a prompt
[11:30] <robotgeek> ttcsvin: http://packages.ubuntu.com/<search>
[11:31] <ni1s> `sheep, try 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[11:31] <`sheep> so i need to install everything manually ?
[11:31] <ttcsvin> thanks rob1
[11:31] <ttcsvin> thanks robotgeek
[11:31] <carlos_> porfabor el canal ubuntu en espaol cual es?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> !es
[11:31] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:31] <ni1s> `sheep, hopefully not, but try that one I have you
[11:32] <`sheep> okey
[11:32] <`sheep> will do
[11:32] <`sheep> 10x
[11:32] <ion> So I gonna go back  to  the things that I was doing ..see you later guys
[11:32] <bahblahblahbah> umm my Windows internet doesn't work can someone help?
[11:32] <ni1s> bahblahblahbah, Windows Internet?
[11:32] <`sheep> how come irssi isn't on apt-get ?
[11:32] <ni1s> bahblahblahbah, Windows shared folder?
[11:32] <funkyHat> bahblahblahbah, how is your Windows computer connected to the internet?
[11:32] <bahblahblahbah> I mean like on Windows
[11:32] <gnomefreak> Windows as in M$ Windows?
[11:32] <robotgeek> `sheep: it's installed by default
[11:33] <bahblahblahbah> i know
[11:33] <bahblahblahbah> but it won't work
[11:33] <`sheep> i think i tried to run it
[11:33] <blondie> `sheep: might be irssi-text ?
[11:33] <bahblahblahbah> some winsock problems
[11:33] <`sheep> ah
[11:33] <bahblahblahbah> or something
[11:33] <`sheep> whats the search of apt-get ?
[11:33] <blondie> bahblahblahbah: why do you ask here?
[11:33] <blondie> apt-cache search
[11:33] <`sheep> apt-get search ?
[11:33] <`sheep> ah
[11:33] <gnomefreak> apt-cache i think
[11:33] <robotgeek> `sheep: apt-cache search
[11:33] <`sheep> okey
[11:33] <bahblahblahbah> because I'm using ubuntu right now
[11:33] <bahblahblahbah> a live cd
[11:33] <`sheep> that will come in handy
[11:33] <`sheep> i'm just used to working on gentoo
[11:33] <bahblahblahbah> lol not much sense I know
[11:33] <bahblahblahbah> but....
[11:33] <Seveas> bahblahblahbah, this is not #windows
[11:33] <ni1s> bahblahblahbah, Why are you asking this inhere?
[11:33] <`sheep> one command to rule them all
[11:33] <`sheep> :-)
[11:33] <navarone> gnomefreak > http://www.fs-security.com/docs/preferences.php   <-- This page says tat you can set it to start when you dial out...does this refer to only dial up users or is it generic for "when network connection is established"?
[11:33] <robotgeek> bahblahblahbah: can u shroten your nick
[11:33] <blondie> bahblahblahbah: and what does that have to do with it?
[11:33] <cafuego> as would 'apt-file search ...'
[11:33] <Seveas> it's insane to ask it in here
[11:33] <Seveas> so please leave
[11:34] <gnomefreak> ill look ty navarone
[11:34] <bahblahblahbah> k thx anyway
[11:34] <GTswagger> wb vegos
[11:34] <paxmaster> how could i relaod my mouse, it acting very funny
[11:34] <vegos> im back
[11:34] <poningru> vegos: did it work?
[11:34] <Seveas> that was funny :)
[11:34] <vegos> ok i got the wireless to work for 5 seconds then i lost the connection
[11:34] <ni1s> hehe
[11:34] <ni1s> paxmaster, try reconfigureing X
[11:34] <paxmaster> such as
[11:35] <paxmaster> dexconf
[11:35] <poningru> paxmaster: just restart X but that would restart everything
[11:35] <ni1s> paxmaster, How is it acting funny?
[11:35] <GTswagger> paxmaster -- unplug it and plug it back in; if it's a trackball; open it up and make sure the contacts are free of grime
[11:35] <lightbright> hi
[11:35] <ni1s> paxmaster, and if its a wireless, change the batteries
[11:35] <vegos> is this problem familiar with anyone
[11:36] <robotgeek> paxmaster: or if is it's optical, make sure your mousepad if you have one is non-reflecting
[11:36] <ni1s> paxmaster, and move the reciver closer to the mouse
[11:36] <paxmaster> i will try that thx
[11:36] <gnomefreak> navarone, if you look under general firewall options the first one is non-dial up the second one is dial-up so it looks like one setting to set it to run when you open GUI
[11:36] <gnomefreak> that goes for lightbright also
[11:36] <NightBird> hey, if there are some folders I want to have shared across a windows based network, how would I set that up?
[11:36] <poningru> vegos: you sure its not some prob with the wireless access point?
[11:37] <ni1s> Damn, we coverd alot of mouse troubleshooting there, and quick too!
[11:37] <VersusGod> I'm getting Bad USB agent invocation, no action
[11:37] <VersusGod>  when I try hotplug usb.  I'm doing it because my ipod isn't mounting
[11:37] <poningru> cause if it came in
[11:37] <poningru> and went out
[11:37] <vegos> positive, im using it now im my windows partition
[11:37] <`sheep> how come base install didn't put "man" ?
[11:37] <robotgeek> ni1s: yes we are fast. Fast are what we are :)
[11:37] <poningru> hmm
[11:37] <poningru> which card exactly was it?
[11:37] <vegos> broadcom
[11:37] <navarone> gnome > looked at the index and found page that says Firestarter will run as service when installed from a package (ie deb , rpm) but you need to config init script if you compiled yourself
[11:37] <`sheep> and how do i add "man" to commands ?
[11:37] <`sheep> cuz apt-get install man didn't work
[11:38] <`sheep> :-/
[11:38] <ni1s> `sheep, man should been installed, try man apt-get
[11:38] <poningru> vegos: you did use the correct .inf right?
[11:38] <vegos> yes
[11:38] <Seveas> apt-get install manpages manpages-posix manpages-dev manpages-posix-dev funny-manpages asr-manpages
[11:38] <`sheep> the command "man" wasn't found
[11:38] <navarone> sheep > you should have man pages installed...look in system help and then man pages
[11:38] <`sheep> ah
[11:38] <vegos> should the windows driver files be put in a certain folder
[11:38] <`sheep> oki
[11:39] <poningru> vegos: what did you do exactly?
[11:39] <vegos> ok
[11:39] <DShepherd> Seveas: ni1s thanks it worked
[11:39] <vegos> i installed ndiswrapper package
[11:39] <dooglus> `sheep: the package is called 'man-db', not 'man'
[11:39] <palatka> what does ctrl alt backspace do
[11:39] <ni1s> `sheep, your install seams to act very weird, If i were you I would redo the entire install( with in your case apparently wasnt much)
[11:40] <vegos> then i ran the command :      sudo ndiswrapper -i inffile
[11:40] <dooglus> palatka: it kills the X server
[11:40] <ni1s> DShepherd, np
[11:40] <navarone> palatka > it shuts down and restarts the x server to initialze changes you made
[11:40] <NightBird> anyone know how I would share a folder across the network?
[11:40] <DShepherd> ni1s: dont like it now though :(
[11:40] <vegos> then, : ndiswrapper to check if it worked
[11:40] <dooglus> navarone: it doesn't restart anything
[11:40] <`sheep> ni1s: i don't mind, but since i don't want grub to install on mbr, i installed it on the /boot and used "dd" to copy the boot record
[11:40] <vegos> then modprobe ndiswrapper to get the module
[11:40] <`sheep> then used it as a file to boot from
[11:40] <`sheep> it works
[11:40] <Niomi> NightBird: look up info on samba, nfs, or SSH, all are good options. i like SSH.
[11:41] <Red-Sox> How do you add magification to a panel?
[11:41] <`sheep> but i think the install somehow stopped
[11:41] <vegos> then i configured the network from the gui
[11:41] <`sheep> cuz i never got to a package selection screen
[11:41] <navarone> dooglus> when I do it it restarts x session
[11:41] <ni1s> `sheep, it all sounds very weird
[11:41] <dooglus> navarone: gdm might restart the X session after control-alt-backspace kills it.
[11:41] <NightBird> Niomi, I was wanting one that windows would be able to use natively without needing to install anything..
[11:41] <`sheep> i don't mind re-installing
[11:41] <poningru> you sure ndiswrapper was started?
[11:42] <navarone> dooglus >a lil from column a a lil from column b
[11:42] <`sheep> but tell me how to do it next time
[11:42] <ni1s> `sheep, thats what I would do
[11:42] <`sheep> i mean, do different
[11:42] <ni1s> `sheep, Why dont you want GRUb in the MBR?
[11:42] <vegos> yes i also downloaded and installed a ndiswrapper package that lets me wrap the windows drive through a gui
[11:42] <`sheep> i would like to keep my current boot record
[11:42] <Niomi> NightBird: samba would be your best bet then.
[11:42] <`sheep> i have used it for years on gentoo
[11:42] <`sheep> and it worked
[11:43] <`sheep> it only makes the install one step longer
[11:43] <`sheep> thats all
[11:43] <poningru> hmm brb
[11:43] <navarone> how do you make a copy of a bootdisk you made during install? Is that as simple as it sounds?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> navarone, i didnt think you had to compile it to get it to run on start
[11:44] <navarone> gnomefreak> you don't if you use a binary to install
[11:44] <cafuego> `sheep: The normal install deosn't give you a package selection screen.
[11:44] <gnomefreak> navarone,  if he got it from apt-get its not binary is it?
[11:45] <navarone> gnomefreak> I would think he installed a deb file
[11:45] <`sheep> i'll re-install, then
[11:45] <cafuego> `sheep: You could also just remove stuff you don't want.
[11:46] <`sheep> i just need to change the clock settings to gmt
[11:46] <cafuego> or tell it to not install the bootloader when prompted (pointless, though)
[11:46] <cafuego> `sheep: That's ain a config file in /etc somewhere
[11:46] <navarone> you can tell it to not install in mbr and then get option to put on floppy...
[11:46] <`sheep> don't have a floppy drive
[11:46] <navarone> eep
[11:47] <goat132321> UBUNTU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:47] <`sheep> and that boot.ini works for me
[11:47] <goat132321> I love that name
[11:47] <goat132321> :)
[11:47] <buzzco> any buddy know of a good way to turn a python project ( using distutils ) into an ubuntu deb ?
[11:47] <cafuego> if you're worried about making the install longer, just install it to the MBR, it's the fatest solution.
[11:47] <lightbright> whats the command to delete an entire folder that is full?  rmdir doesnt work
[11:47] <goat132321> RMFDIR
[11:47] <lightbright> goat132321: what?
[11:47] <goat132321> Remove Mothafuking DIR
[11:47] <`sheep> it doesn't take long to move it from /boot to a file
[11:47] <buzzco> rm -fr /dirname
[11:47] <bimberi> lightbright: rm -r <dir>
[11:48] <`sheep> and i'm quite skilled @ it
[11:48] <ttcsvin> can i put a image in the Gaim?
[11:48] <lightbright> bimberi: thanks!  btw, who is this goat132321 , he is being very nasty
[11:48] <bimberi> nfi
[11:48] <Seveas> ttcsvin, yes
[11:48] <Seveas> tools -> accounts
[11:48] <gnomefreak> goat132321,  can you please not curse this is a family chat
[11:48] <goat132321> no one special
[11:48] <Seveas> select account, hit edit
[11:48] <goat132321> sorry My apologise to the family I offended
[11:49] <cafuego> goat132321: Check the Code of Coduct on the Ubuntu website.
[11:49] <cafuego> goat132321: Verily, it doth also apply here.
[11:49] <benkong2> dose anyone know of any reason why the firefox 1.5 install in the wiki has problems on AMD64?
[11:49] <Netslayer> how do i get the gnome network manager available?
[11:49] <Netslayer>  - available :-P
[11:50] <ttcsvin> how can i rec a cd in from the console?
[11:51] <cafuego> ttcsvin: 'cdrecord'.
[11:51] <robotgeek> Netslayer: System -> Administration _> Network
[11:51] <tarheelcoxn> ttcsvin: you want to burn or rip?
[11:51] <ttcsvin> from the consolo
[11:51] <Netslayer> robotgeek, is it only available in gnome?
[11:51] <ttcsvin> from the console
[11:51] <robotgeek> Netslayer: the package name is network-admin
[11:51] <tarheelcoxn> ttcsvin: you want to rip from the CD to the HD or you want to burn from the HD to the CD?
[11:51] <Niomi> Netslayer: gksudo network-admin. there's also a setting in the KDE control panel
[11:51] <ttcsvin>  burn from the HD to the CD
[11:52] <cafuego> ttcsvin: 'cdrecord'.
[11:52] <tarheelcoxn> ttcsvin: what cafuego said
[11:52] <ttcsvin> thanks
[11:52] <tarheelcoxn> ttcsvin: read the man page... it's very good
[11:52] <tarheelcoxn> has anybody seen cafuego?
[11:52] <cafuego> ttcsvin: if it's a data cd, you'll need to create an ISO first using 'mkisofs'.
[11:53] <dooglus> tarheelcoxn: it's a shame he's not around.  he knows all about cdrecord and stuff
[11:53] <ttcsvin> ok
[11:53] <ttcsvin> thanks cafuego
[11:53] <Red-Sox> how do you magnify launchers on panels like in osx?
[11:54] <lightbright> anyone here use rsync a lot?
[11:54] <Netslayer> robotgeek, if i don't have network-admin available in synaptic does that mean i'm missing a repos/source?
[11:54] <cafuego> BLoody spambot
[11:55] <Stormx2> who is the spambot?
[11:55] <cafuego> *!*@85.96.255.7
[11:55] <robotgeek> Netslayer: did you install gnome?
[11:55] <Stormx2> and who the hell would set a spambot on the ubuntu channel?!
[11:55] <cafuego> +3
[11:55] <Seveas> Stormx2, scriptkiddies
[11:55] <cafuego> Stormx2: traditionally, on-join porn spammers.
[11:55] <Netslayer> robotgeek, ya i have gnome. i'm talking about this: http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[11:55] <Seveas> there are tons of them (both the kiddies and the bots)
[11:55] <Stormx2> Sados.
[11:56] <jcole> anyone here familiar or have done bluetooth networking?
[11:56] <robotgeek> Netslayer: oh okay, sudo apt-get install network-manager
[11:56] <Sarvell> whats the best way to use windows drivers?
[11:56] <Stormx2> Sarvell: For what?
[11:56] <Sarvell> tv tuner asus pvr 416
[11:57] <robotgeek> jcole: what are u trying to setup?
[11:57] <Seveas> Sarvell, there is no way
[11:57] <Netslayer> robotgeek, apparently i have it. is it an applet in gnome? (i'm in kde right now)
[11:57] <andril> hello all
[11:57] <cafuego> Sarvell: In windows.
[11:57] <Seveas> cafuego, good catch :)
[11:57] <Sarvell> anybody know how to get it working properly then?
[11:57] <robotgeek> Netslayer: nm-applet --sm-disable&
[11:57] <andril> anyone figure out how to tame this Breezy yet?
[11:57] <robotgeek> Netslayer: nm-applet --sm-disable &
[11:57] <Netslayer> robotgeek, awesome!!!!
[11:57] <jcole> robotgeek: well, i want to use my cell phone as a bluetooth network device
[11:58] <robotgeek> jcole: hmm, i havent gone that far. sorry
[11:58] <Inchabod> Is there anyway to try KDE over gnome without ruining any of my gnome settings and be able to switch back safely?
[11:58] <tarheelcoxn> Sarvell: google for the chipset
[11:58] <Sarvell> cx88
[11:58] <tarheelcoxn> Sarvell: if you don't know what the chipset is, find it with lspci
[11:58] <Seveas> Inchabod, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:58] <andril> I am having issues with transparent corners and icons when moving
[11:58] <Seveas> choose when logging in
[11:59] <tarheelcoxn> Sarvell: but I'm with Seveas and cafuego... you're likely out of luck
[11:59] <Inchabod> and it won't wreck anything?
[11:59] <robotgeek> jcole: done searching the wiki?
[11:59] <cafuego> 1) Find out if the hardware is supported under the OS ou want to run 2) Buy hardware. Don't reverse the order.
[11:59] <Sarvell> hope not...