[06:31] <pef> hello !
[06:32] <Riddell> hi pef 
[06:41] <pef> Riddell: hello Jonathan
[06:41] <pef> still cannot upload to archive...
[06:42] <Riddell> pef: not to universe?
[06:42] <pef> nop
[06:42] <pef> no answers from elmo, still very busy I think
[06:43] <Riddell> that's no excuse, he's always busy
[06:44] <pef> Riddell: have leaved him several messages on #ubuntu-devel, and sent a mail
[06:44] <pef> maybe he doesn't like me :] 
[06:44] <Riddell> won't be that
[06:45] <Riddell> he'd tell you if he didn't 
[06:45] <pef> Riddell: I asked him if my email is whitelisted, he said it is, so if my uploads are discarded, it must be a problem with my gpg key ? (not in the keyring I think)
[06:46] <Riddell> what's your key ID?
[06:47] <pef> 601FA31D
[06:50] <Riddell> pef: doesn't look like the gpg key is signed by anyone
[06:55] <Riddell> pef: checkinstall looks fine, shall I upload?
[06:55] <pef> Riddell: yep :)
[06:56] <pef> Riddell: arg, hard to find someone not to far from me :/ I think I will have to pay a lawyer as I discussed with dholbach,it's another idea
[06:57] <Riddell> pay a lawyer?
[06:57] <Riddell> pef: where are you?
[06:57] <pef> Riddell: east of france
[06:58] <pef> http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?sl=1120
[07:00] <Riddell> probably cheaper and more fun to go to Stuttgart or Paris or somewhere than paying a lawyer
[07:01] <pef> mmm you're right.. I will travel soonly :)
[07:02] <Riddell> but in the mean time you should be able to do REVU reviews!
[07:03] <pef> Riddell: is it a difficult process with all Ubuntu stuff (packages, launchpad) to change my gpg key ? (revocate the old one and create a new one)
[07:03] <Riddell> pef: I've uploaded checkinstall on your e-mail address, tell me if you get an e-mail
[07:04] <Riddell> pef: not difficult, just change it on launchpad and tell elmo for the upload I think
[07:04] <Riddell> pef: why would you want to?
[07:04] <Riddell> pef: please send the debdiff and a polite e-mail to the Debian checkinstall maintainer
[07:05] <pef> Riddell: because loic@dev.erodia.net, I think to stop using this domain
[07:05] <Riddell> pef: just revoke that address, easy enough
[07:05] <Riddell> no need to change the key
[07:06] <pef> Riddell: ok, got mail from katie for checkinstall
[07:08] <Riddell> well at least we know your e-mail is whitelisted
[07:09] <pef> Riddell: I'm now using loic@ubuntu.com, so it's sure :)
[07:12] <pef> Riddell: is a debdiff really usefull for a so trivial change ?
[07:13] <Riddell> pef: I would find it useful
[07:16] <Riddell> pef: has the part of france you're in has been part of germany at times past?
[07:17] <pef> yes, I'm at ~45m of car from Germany (Lrrach, Mulheim, ...)
[07:18] <Riddell> pef: so when it became part of France did everyone have to stop speaking German and start speaking French?
[07:22] <pef> Riddell: wow :) I don't remember well my history lessons, but it was german from 1870 to 1945
[07:23] <pef> Riddell: people usually speaks french here, but there is a local "dialect", only speak by old persons ;)
[07:23] <Riddell> right
[07:23] <Riddell> and when do people start speaking german, just over the border?
[07:28] <Riddell> pef: anyone near you on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWorldWide ?
[07:29] <pef> Riddell: good question, I'm not sure 
[07:30] <pef> Riddell: not nearest than people on biglumber
[07:32] <pef> Riddell: can you also have a look on mixxx (REVU) ? exists on Debian, not in Ubuntu
[07:34] <Riddell> pef: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/m/mixxx/1.4.2-1/
[07:35] <Riddell> ah, you know
[07:41] <pef> Riddell: yes, problem is old gl/glu build-depends (old gl/glu transition)
[07:41] <pef> corrected on REVU :)
[07:44] <Riddell> pef: mixxx build good, uploading
[07:46] <Riddell> .diff.gz for mixxx is a bit evil, .cpp files changed
[07:50] <pef> Riddell: yes, patch directly on the diff :/
[07:50] <pef> Riddell: against debian policy, isn't it ?
[07:52] <Riddell> no, it's just against common sense and modern practice
[07:53] <pef> of course :)
[07:53] <pef> Riddell: can I put all the changes in a clean patch and remove them from .diff ?
[07:54] <Riddell> pef: no, don't change what debian does
[07:55] <pef> Riddell: and sending the corrections to Debian maintainer ?
[07:56] <Riddell> send the corrections to debian maintainer by all means
[07:56] <Riddell> but changing it in ubuntu gives us no advantage and means there will be a difficult merge each time debian changes
[07:57] <pef> Riddell: I never thought about making the change in Ubuntu, but sending the change to Debian :)
[08:00] <pef> arg I will be late
[08:00] <pef> Riddell: thanks for the uploads ;)
[08:01] <pef> bye !
[08:01] <Riddell> bye pef 
[08:01] <Riddell> salut _marcel_ 
[08:01] <jjesse> hmmm using amaroK and kde 3.5 rc1 and i see the splash screen and then nothing happens :(
[08:02] <_marcel_> mhm 
[08:02] <author-psi> its magic :D
[08:03] <Riddell> jjesse: what happens when you run on the command line?
[08:03] <jjesse> Riddell: it just sits there 
[08:04] <Riddell> jjesse: try moving ~/.kde/share/config/amarok and ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok out the way
[08:04] <Riddell> ~/.kde/share/config/amarok*
[08:06] <jjesse> well that was wierd, looks like kdm crashed?  brought me back to the login screen
[08:07] <Riddell> jjesse: uh oh.  what did you do?
[08:07] <jjesse> Riddell: umm no clue
[08:07] <Riddell> won't be kdm but X that crashed
[08:08] <jjesse> ok amaroK just crashed again for me but it created a back tracke
[08:24] <Riddell> \sh_away: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/python-qt3/+bug/4538
[08:43] <mornfall> hmm, any further remarks to KubuntuDapperPackageManager?
[08:44] <Riddell> mornfall: nope, looks good
[08:44] <Riddell> mornfall: I think we just need to settle on a bounty price and then send it off
[08:44] <mornfall> so i guess i can start running for first milestone :)
[08:44] <Riddell> mvo was going to bounty the aptitude dude, I was thinking I should chat with him about prices
[08:45] <Riddell> mornfall: woo!
[08:46] <mornfall> i'm only waiting for emacs to update and start hacking i s'ppose
[08:46] <mornfall> Riddell: good idea :)
[08:46] <mornfall> and well, thanks for the support and all
[08:47] <mornfall> i alone wouldn't get this too far
[08:48] <Riddell> very welcome, you're making KDE on debian distros a possibility
[08:48] <Tonio_> hi
[08:48] <Tonio_> Riddell: seen your revues, thanks.
[08:48] <Tonio_> I'm taking note of your comments...
[08:50] <Riddell> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=651 just reviewed
[08:50] <Riddell> Tonio_: ^^] 
[08:51] <Tonio_> okay
[08:51] <Tonio_> that's a very old upload
[08:51] <Tonio_> I have to remaster the package
[08:51] <Riddell> Tonio_: why?
[08:51] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'm fixing kxmame with your comments
[08:51] <Tonio_> Riddell: needs a patch on .desktop file, change breezy to dapper etc....
[08:53] <Tonio_> Riddell: concerning kftpgrabber, the beta is WAY more stable than version 0.6 
[08:53] <Riddell> Tonio_: cool, just wanted to check
[08:54] <Tonio_> Riddell: concerning kxmame, xmame is a multiverse dependance, to I have to add it anyway ?
[08:55] <Tonio_> this is the reason I didn't add it, I was unsure.....
[08:57] <Riddell> Tonio_: if it needs xmame to run then that should be a dependency
[08:57] <Tonio_> Riddell: ho sorry, I added it but was unsure ;)
[08:57] <Tonio_> Riddell: well it is a frontend for xmame so... it depends on it, yes
[08:59] <Riddell> Tonio_: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=653  gwenrename revu'd
[08:59] <Riddell> I suspect quite a few of your packages have that mistake
[09:00] <Tonio_> yes
[09:00] <Tonio_> Riddell: old ones
[09:00] <Tonio_> new uploads don't have it
[09:00] <Tonio_> but all new uploads have the same error in changelog (describe what does the patch)
[09:01] <Tonio_> Riddell: do you want me to fix them all ? that wouldn't be long
[09:01] <Riddell> Tonio_: I'm off out now, send me an e-mail when you make any new uploads so I look at them promptly
[09:01] <Riddell> please do
[09:01] <Tonio_> I will
[09:01] <Tonio_> I'm currently fixing the packages you reviewed
[09:09] <Tonio_> Riddell: little question, is it necessary to add the fsf postal address ? According to what I can see, I assume no, right ?
[09:11] <Riddell> Tonio_: nope, it isn't
[09:13] <Tonio_> okay
[09:13] <Tonio_> that'll be easier for correcting ;)
[09:17] <Tonio_> Riddell: kxmame corrected and reuploaded
[11:07] <Diablo-D3> someday I shall have a working kdesktop