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nalioth_Snake_: yes we do use it12:03
_Snake_You don't need to say my name, as I assume your typing it, i'm on mirc, cant see the red ;)12:04
_Snake_Is it any good?12:04
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LjLwell, as far as i'm concerned, using stuff like Xfce is pretty useless these days (unless you actually *like* the way it looks and works). many, many useful apps are for either KDE or Gnome; of course, you can run them in Xfce, but what's the purpose, when all the KDE/Gnome libraries will be laoded anyway?12:05
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colin__how can i use my airport extreme in kubuntu?12:06
_crimsonhello, when I install ATI controller my kubuntu goes to ruin does not return to initiate KDE12:06
LjL_Snake_: by the way, talking about the "red", do you know you can set Konversation to display an icon in the tray, which will start flashing red when someone calls your name? :)12:06
LjLcolin__: what is that?12:06
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Filladoapples wi-fi access point12:06
LjLoh12:06
colin__yea12:06
doodzhey its cool i left a ton of apps over, shut my pc down then when i booted back up they all re12:07
doodzopend12:07
doodz:)12:07
doodz*open12:07
_Snake_LjL: Cant say I did :)12:07
LjLdoodz: that's called "session saving" ;-) it's there by default in Gnome, though i think it has to be specified in KDE12:07
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doodzi can't remember selecting it..12:07
LjL_Snake_: well i'm just giving random tips when they come to me :)12:07
doodzi like it12:07
doodz:)12:07
brodelfrom what I've read WPA looks like it's a pain to get working on ubuntu. I have been thinking about getting a new wireless router. (11 mbit is just too slow for my current needs) Is there an easy way to get WPA working on ubuntu?12:08
naliothcolin__: you cannot12:08
LjLdoodz: i like hibernation better (when it actually works). it's basically session saving done the right way :)12:08
colin__can i use a usb dongle?12:08
_Snake_brodel: Wireless period is hard to get working in any linux distro12:08
naliothcolin__: are you talking about the built in wireles or the AP?12:08
doodzhibernation like what windows has ?12:08
Filladois there a repository that has nvidia drivers in it?12:08
colin__the built in12:08
brodelreally? My wireless worked perfectly with no problems (using it now)12:09
LjLdoodz: yeah. it's called either "hibernation" or "software suspend" or "suspend to disk" in linux12:09
colin__hmm12:09
_Snake_Odd...mine was a bitch to set up brodel12:09
naliothcolin__: it is a broadcom chipset, so no it doesnt work under linux12:09
_Snake_Might just be mine :)12:09
doodznice12:09
LjLdoodz: you can try it by running "sudo /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh" in KDE, while Gnome has a shutdown option for it12:09
naliothcolin__: i do have a webpage for you to look at12:09
brodelAll I did was enter in my SSID. I also used it at a friends house and it worked fine.12:09
brodelI am concerned about moving to another card and AP though12:09
naliothcolin__: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/       <<< this page works well when shopping12:09
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LjLdoodz: unfortunately it's definitely not as polished as the windows one, currently12:09
naliothubotu: tell colin__ about wireless12:10
naliothcolin__: also check your priv msgs from ubotu for further info12:10
colin__k, thanx12:10
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brodelHell I still can't get windows to get this card installed correctly, but ubuntu did it with no probs :)12:11
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libbenkmess.sourceforge.net is it better the kopete? i only use msn anyway except irc12:11
_Snake_Ugh kopete makes me mad12:12
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brodelI am using kopete.. it's ok12:12
brodelI still like gaim better12:12
LjLlibben: dunno, but it's in the repositories, so you can probably try it quite quickly12:12
_Snake_Its got a problem with AIM, I like kopete better, but with AIM it sucks12:12
libbenyeah, but i was more in the line if kopete is less buggy or something like that12:13
brodelWhy's that? I mainly only use AIM12:13
libbenim thinking of uninstalling kopete and install kmess12:13
_Snake_If you have "thorns of faith" in your buddy list and they IM you as "Thorns of Faith" (notice the caps) it says hes not on your buddy list12:13
_Snake_Then if you try to add, they dont immidetly come online12:13
naliothlibben: whatever you're up to12:13
brodelOdd.. I've never noticed anything like that.12:14
LjLi dunno, but guys, why don' you go file a bug, instead of running away to another program?12:14
_Snake_I filed one :)!12:14
LjLok then ;)12:14
_Snake_Then I switched to gaim lol12:14
_crimsonhello to all12:14
_Snake_yo12:15
LjL_Snake_: anyway, as you can see from kubuntu.org, there's kde 3.5 almost ready, perhaps it fixes that. actually, i have the RC1 installed12:15
_Snake_Yea I seen that12:15
_Snake_Should be scweet12:15
_crimsonanyone have installed GATOS ATI following the README inside TAR12:15
_Snake_Do they ship kubuntu for free aswell, or just ubuntu?12:16
LjL_Snake_: unless you really want to test it, though, i'd advise against installing it... it's giving quite a few problems to people, me included (not bad problems, but problems), as you can see from the known bugs page12:16
_crimsonwhen I install ATI controller my kubuntu goes to ruin does not return to initiate KDE12:16
_Snake_LjL:Ill wait until its prime time12:16
LjL_Snake_: don't tell me you'd rather have it shipped than install a decent downloader :P12:16
_Snake_LjL: Haha, naw, I was thinking about ordering a bunch and handing them out at school, I know a few nerds that are to lazy to download it lol12:17
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LjLoic12:18
_Snake_LjL:about how long ago was hoary released?12:18
LjL_Snake_: like something more than 6 months ago12:18
LjL_Snake_: there's a release every 6 months, and breezy is quite new12:18
brodelcan anyone help me mount a windows share? I want to see if it helps an issue I'm having with streaming music 12:19
brodelBreezy is about a month old now12:19
Hobbsee!mount12:19
ubotuI heard mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives12:19
brodelnot that that's old..12:19
nalioth_Snake_: it's not about downloading, it's about ignorance. the vast majority of folks have no idea that a nice open desktop system exists12:19
LjLbrodel: well, the basic idea is "sudo mount -t cifs //server/directory /mnt/somewhere -o username=WindowsUser"12:19
brodelI was missing the -t cifs 12:20
LjLbrodel: WindowsUser would be a windows user, of course :-)12:20
brodelwhat's that do / mean?12:20
LjLbrodel: you could use "-t smbfs", but that's deprecated i think12:20
LjLbrodel: the two "//" you mean? well, it's the same as on Windows, only on it's "\\" there12:21
brodelI was getting something about superblocks last night when trying it, but I didn't have the -t cifs thing12:21
LjLbrodel: on windows, you access a remote share by typing "\\server\directory"12:21
brodelYeah. I know that :)12:21
brodelI know windows too well12:21
LjLwell, the two "//" in linux are just that12:21
brodelI mean't the "-t cifs"12:21
_Snake_<brodel> I know windows too well"12:22
_Snake_Same here, I think thats why linux is so hard for me12:22
LjLoh, well, cifs is the new filesystem for Windows shares, the older one, smbfs, had some bad issues, i think12:22
_Snake_Gotta unlearn everything, then relearn12:22
Hobbseebrodel: _Snake_ you unlearn it pretty quick, it's not that hard12:23
LjL_Snake_: naaah... they even place widgets the windows way, in both KDE and Gnome, to give you an easy time :-P12:23
LjL(fortunately, that's configurable)12:23
brodel"mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //omoikane/share"12:23
brodelI can't unlearn it completely (I'd lose my job haha)12:23
_Snake_lol, I mean you have to learn that theres diffrent ways to do things in linux than windows12:24
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chaoticgeekI like armork12:24
_Snake_Same12:24
chaoticgeekor whatever its called12:24
_Snake_;)12:24
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brodelamarok never worked for me.. It looks too big for a music player anyway (IMO)12:25
chaoticgeekamarok12:25
brodelI like beep12:25
_Snake_XMMS Roxorz12:25
LjLbrodel: hmm try with the IP of your windows machine instead of its name12:25
chaoticgeekI load a list then minimize it12:25
brodelok12:25
brodelmount: block device //10.121.10.5/share is write-protected, mounting read-only12:26
brodelmount: cannot mount block device //10.121.10.5/share read-only12:26
LjL_Snake_: bah, xmms is just winamp, which may not necessarily be a bad thing, but i don't find it a particularly noteworthy program12:26
brodelit never asked me for a password12:26
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LjLbrodel: weird that it didn't. you used the "-o" option, didn't you?12:26
brodelAll I need it to do is play music. amarok is too big for that12:27
_Snake_What do you mean by big?12:27
_Snake_File size, or playersize?12:27
brodelsudo mount -t cifs //10.121.10.5/share /media/omoikane -o username=brodel12:27
brodelthat's what I typed exactly12:27
LjLbrodel: then just use mpg321 :P12:27
brodelplayersize (interface)12:27
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brodelI like the size of beep.. does all I need.12:27
_Snake_It can minimize to the tray...lol12:27
brodelAmarok takes almost the whole screen.12:28
brodelyeah, but why does the interface need that much space to begin with 12:28
LjLbrodel: it looks right... note that the username *may* be case sensitive, though... also, not that it should make a difference, but i would mount in /mnt not in /media12:28
brodelI don't know.. it just bothers me.12:28
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brodelok12:28
_Snake_Lol ur choice! (The magic of linux :))12:28
LjLbrodel: it doesn't *need* that space... just tell it to show a winamp like small window, and it will12:28
chaoticgeekI like having the winkey+letter to move around in my playlists12:29
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CarD-Elsoyhi12:29
brodelmaybe I'll try it again.. but I guess I'm wondering what makes it better than beep?12:30
LjLbrodel: i haven't tried beep12:30
brodelmount: cannot mount block device //10.121.10.5/Share read-only12:30
brodelbah12:30
chaoticgeekthat other thing is cool too12:30
chaoticgeekthe detachable one like winamp12:31
_Snake_What are you trying to mount brodel? A windows NTFS Drive or what??12:31
brodelwindows share12:31
_Snake_Hmm12:31
LjL_Snake_: a windows share, i.e. he's trying to do a Samba mount12:31
brodelit a NTFS drive though12:31
brodelbut that shouldn't matter (I think)12:31
LjLbrodel: well, have you tried with "-t smbfs" just to be sure?12:32
brodelnope12:32
_Snake_Yea I see that, I thought it was local12:32
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LjLbrodel: well, try it, even though i'm positive it's being deprecated... but if it works for you..12:32
brodelbrodel@nemesis-nix:~$ sudo mount -t smbfs //10.121.10.5/Share /mnt/omoikane -o username=brodel12:32
brodelmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //10.121.10.5/Share,12:32
chaoticgeekwhat are you trying to do?12:32
LjLbrodel: i think you might not have "smbfs" installed12:33
LjLbrodel: (though i think that package's only needed for smbfs proper, not cifs)12:33
brodelanyway to check?12:33
LjLbrodel: aptitude install smbfs12:33
LjLbrodel: if it's already installed, you'll know ;)12:33
brodelnope.. looks like it's installing now12:34
_Snake_LjL: How the hell do you know all these commands off the top of your head?12:34
_StarScreamdoes anyone have bootsplash with kubuntu12:34
brodelyou say aptitude, but if I am asking and you're not around I always get "apt-get" why do you prefer aptitude? (curiosity only)12:34
LjL_Snake_: what "all these commands"? for now, you've only seen me type "aptitude" and "mount" :)12:34
_StarScreamor is it just PPC that doesn't12:34
chaoticgeekhe/she is very smart12:34
LjLbrodel: i think people are simply used to apt-get... aptitude is a good program, it's endorsed by Debian, and it can do *at least all* the things that apt-get can do12:35
LjLbrodel: in addition, it remembers automatically installed dependencies, which apt-get doesn't12:35
Hobbseebrodel: handles the dependancies differently - aptitude gets rid of the package and it's dependancies, i think12:35
LjLbrodel: and it's got a graphical interface, but i don't use that12:35
Hobbseethat too12:35
naliothbrodel: aptitude has more/different features12:36
brodelwow.. lots of answers lol12:36
Hobbseehehe12:36
Hobbseepeople must be awake today12:36
brodelwell that mount worked finally :D12:36
LjLbrodel: just try installing a package that has a ton of dependencies... later you decide you want to remove it... with apt-get, you'll have to hunt for the dependencies one by one12:36
brodeldidn't seem sto really solve my issue though... but oh well12:36
brodelseems to*12:36
LjLbrodel: this also applies while doing an automatic upgrade... if dependencies get moved in the new versions, and stuff like that, aptitude will do a much better job of getting rid of the obsolete stuff12:37
LjLbrodel: what do you mean? it works or it works not?12:37
brodelspeaking of that.. is there something running on my laptop looking for new stuff like patches and whatever?12:37
brodelThe mount worked fine..12:37
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_Snake_LjL: I meant as in I wouldn't know what -t and all that crap does lol12:37
brodelbut when I play an MP3 from that mount it doesn't work right12:37
LjLbrodel: no, on KDE, there isn't (yet). there is in Gnome12:37
LjL_Snake_: well, you see, i also have a Samba share that i mount, so it's something i'm quite used to do. when people come and ask abour wireless interfaces (like some minutes ago), i simply don't have a clue12:38
_Snake_Ah okay12:38
_Snake_lol12:38
LjLbrodel: umount and remount with "-t cifs", maybe it works this time12:38
brodelbefore when I played an MP3 from konqueror, it downloaded it to a temp directory and played it. I wanted it to just play like it does when I'm in windows, now it doesn't download it, but it starts and after 2 seconds, it cuts off :(12:39
brodelhow do I unmount hehe12:39
brodel"unmount" didn't work12:39
Hobbseebrodel: try umount12:39
_thumper_brodel, umount12:39
Hobbsee:P12:39
LjLbrodel: well, when you use Samba shares from KDE, they're not really mounted, but instead there is a "KIOSlave" that connects to the Windows machine and downloads the stuff...12:39
LjLbrodel: "umount /media/share"12:40
brodelsudo: unmount: command not found12:40
LjLthere is no "n"12:40
brodelHAHA12:40
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LjLare you surprised? do you know that the system call to create files is called "creat"?12:40
libbencan i install a deb file that is built for ubuntu?12:41
libbenwe have the same structure dont we?12:41
LjLlibben: ...uh?12:41
slow-motion__n812:41
LjLlibben: ubuntu and kubuntu are exactly the same distribution12:41
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LjLlibben: the only difference is in the selection of programs that comes in the respective CDs12:41
_Snake_libben: Just diffrent pretty pictures and programs :)12:42
Hobbseelibben: what is it?12:42
libbeni know all this. i was just wondering if it was any diffrence in the structure of the folders. but it shouldent be-12:42
LjLlibben: but if you install something that's for Gnome, then a lot of Gnome libraries and misc dependencies will be installed as well12:42
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libbenim going for kmess12:42
libbenbut its not the newest in repos12:43
Hobbseelibben: there wont be, it should be fine12:43
Filladoare the official nvidia drivers in the universe repository?12:43
Hobbsee!nvidia12:43
ubotuI heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736812:43
Hobbseethink you have to get the binary ones from their site12:43
_Snake_oooooooo kmess is pretty12:43
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LjLi wouldn't use MSN if i were forced to :P12:43
_Snake_^agreed12:43
_Snake_But http://kmess.sourceforge.net/ is pretty :)12:44
Hobbseeooh nice!12:44
Hobbseekopete's what i use here12:44
chaoticgeekkonversation12:44
brodelman.. it still doesn't play it right :(12:44
brodeleven with cifs12:44
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chaoticgeekwouldnt kopete do what kmess does? plus more?12:44
brodelCIFS.. I've seen that before when trying to get novell  shares on windows machines withouth the novell client.12:45
LjL_Snake_: isn't it just because they're using a MacOS X like theme in the screenshots? ;-)12:45
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Fillado(23:43:29) (Hobbsee) think you have to get the binary ones from their site <--- trying to avoid that as i'm going to have to do it entirely CLI :|12:45
Hobbseewish it was a multi-im protocol12:45
HobbseeFillado: got lynx?12:45
libbenwell, kmess is only for msn, i only use msn, and irc. and it seems to follow the look of msn more then kopete12:45
chaoticgeekI'll stick with kopete12:45
_Snake_LjL: Probly :)12:45
Hobbseeyeah, that's what i was thinking12:45
chaoticgeekI dont use msn, never have12:46
HobbseeFillado: if you go grab lynx, you'll be able to browse the net via console12:46
_Snake_Kopete would be great if they fix my damn AIM problem12:46
chaoticgeekwhats worng?12:46
Filladoah ok12:46
LjLfine, i'm out of disk space12:46
chaoticgeeksometimes randomly I'll just logg off, but I can log it back it on my AIM, I never have problems with Yahoo though12:46
brodelLjL: so there's nothing I can do about my playing MP3s from that mount?12:46
brodelwhen I use gaim, it always cuts off my google im thing12:47
brodelI forgot what googles was called.. 12:47
LjLbrodel: i don't really know, it works for me... (well, i got some problems too, like accented letters not showing correctly, but basically it works)12:47
chaoticgeekgoogle talk12:47
brodelthat's it12:47
chaoticgeekmy room mate uses that to talk with his brother12:48
chaoticgeekhe loves it, but he uses the windows Google Talk program12:48
brodelalso in yakuake the letters are like smooshed together.. 12:48
Hobbseethere are a lot of improvements in kopete 0.1112:48
brodeldon't know of how to fix that. I've tried different fonts and stuff..12:48
LjLbrodel: perhaps try asking on the #samba channel? (i suppose there is one)12:48
chaoticgeekthere is a samba channle12:49
chaoticgeekchannel*12:49
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brodelnevermind.. it worked that time.. should of just tried it again.. figured it would do the same..12:49
_Snake_Ice Cream is good :-D12:50
chaoticgeekyes it is12:50
chaoticgeekI want some choclate12:50
_Snake_Is it possible to connect to 2 servers with mIRC...?12:50
libbenhmmm some deps problems when trying to install kmess.deb file. but i cant find the deps in the repos. weird12:50
brodelyes12:50
brodeldo /server -m second.server.com12:51
LjL_Snake_: i don't remember how, but yes, with the recent versions, yes12:51
_Snake_Haha got it12:51
_Snake_:)12:51
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brodel:)12:51
Delvienanyone have any experience with ipw2200?12:51
brodellike I said.. I know windows too well :(12:51
chaoticgeekyumm... chocolate12:51
DelvienAnyone know how to fix this http://pastebin.com/43248212:51
HobbseeDelvien: i hear it works12:51
_Snake_Same here brodel12:51
_Snake_I could fix almost any issue with windows..kinda sucks :-D12:52
DelvienHobbsee is freaky for me.. 12:52
Hobbsee!ipw220012:52
ubotuHobbsee: I don't know, could you explain it?12:52
_Snake_I need a challenge, hence why I got linux12:52
Hobbsee!wiki ipw220012:52
brodellinux has definately become a challenge for me.12:52
Hobbseehmmm12:52
_Snake_Same12:52
brodelFeel like it would be easier if I never touched a windows box though.12:52
chaoticgeekI got linux just because I'm a geek12:52
HobbseeDelvien: check ubuntuforums.org - i've seen threads on this12:52
DelvienHobbsee kk checking12:53
_Snake_Lol agreed brodel12:53
Hobbseek12:53
brodelI just want to be able to play my songs from the share :(12:53
brodelI got all these new tunes.. but can't play em unless I boot to windows.. and I don't want to go to windows haha12:53
_Snake_I go through and ill see something and Ill be like "Now why cant this be like windows" but then I remind myself "Dur...this is linux, if I want windows, i should be on windows"12:53
Hobbseehehe12:54
Hobbseethen i go itno a msdos command prompt, then keep trying ls12:54
Hobbseeand wonder why it doesnt work12:54
Hobbseebrodel: copy them over to your linux?12:54
kkathmanbrodel its very possible  from either direction12:54
chaoticgeekthe onlything I have not moved over from windows is using my tv tuner card...12:54
_Snake_Haha! When I first loaded up linux, I tryed using MSDOS/command lines and i was like FOCK! lol12:54
Hobbseehehe yeah12:55
Hobbseeshutdown now works though12:55
_Snake_Ha yeah12:55
brodelHobbsee: I do ls in dos now too12:55
brodeland I did mkdir the other day12:55
_Snake_LOL12:55
_Snake_Nice12:55
Hobbseemkdir doesnt work either?12:55
brodelit does.. but I wasn't thinking12:55
brodelI was doing a batch file..12:56
brodeland I put cp in there somewhere too12:56
chaoticgeekI've done that too befroe12:56
_Snake_I dont usually use windows CLI, I use all graphical for that12:56
_Snake_For windows anyway, after all, it was a OS built for a GUI...why not use it12:56
Hobbseehehe12:56
Hobbseewhat?  you mean...cp doesnt work either???12:56
Hobbseeargh!12:57
brodelbecause I throw batch files in login scripts12:57
chaoticgeekya is al graphical so sometimes I do use the command line, but mostly the gui12:57
brodelI do a lot of batch files.. at work hehe12:57
_Snake_What do you do for a job?12:57
brodelnetwork administrator 12:57
_Snake_Fun12:57
chaoticgeekohh12:57
Hobbseestudent here12:57
_Snake_Computer repairs here/ student12:58
chaoticgeekStudent too12:58
brodelwell used to be.. company got bought out and brought their own people for that.. now I just do the desktop stuff till I find another job so I'm not bored out of my mind12:58
brodelI wish my damn modem in my laptop worked in kubuntu so I could get on the net with it at work.12:58
_Snake_I do the hardware part of PCs12:58
_Snake_You didn't do a dual boot?12:58
brodelhuh?12:58
brodelI want to be on kubuntu on my laptop at work12:58
_Snake_Ah okay, I thought maybe you just installed kubuntu, and got rid of windows 100%12:59
brodelbut I need a modem to connect at work because there are like 4 firewalls between my PC and the net.12:59
brodelhaha.. no way. 12:59
_Snake_I might do that when linux has more support behind it12:59
brodelI know I need certain things and don't always have the time to learn how to do something that's simple in windows12:59
brodelI'd love to get rid of it all together01:00
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brodelActually I downloaded a copy of vista and played with it. A week later I said bah I am going to try linux again.. if I learn it I won't have to deal with Vista unless it's work related.01:00
_Snake_Thats the only thing I dislike about being windows n00b: If you want to do something, you have to research it for hours lol (It took me 4 hours just install flash player into konquerer)01:01
_Snake_Thats like a 30 second job on windows01:01
brodelthis time, I tried ubuntu and have been loving it.. just gotta figure a lot of stuff out.01:01
_Snake_Being linux noob**01:01
LjL_Snake_: or you could ask here ;)01:01
_Snake_Yea, but I know people get annoyed01:01
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LjLnot that i'd know how to install flash, but01:01
brodeldude, I STILL can't get flash running on konqueror.. I tried that forever one night and was like F this I'm goin to bed.01:01
_Snake_hahaha!!01:02
_Snake_PWNED!01:02
_Snake_ER01:02
LjL_Snake_: no, they don't. if it's an easy question, they'll just call ubotu to give you instructions01:02
_Snake_Anyway, are you on kubuntu now?01:02
LjL_Snake_: if it's not an easy question, you'll probably find someone who *wants* to answer it01:02
brodelme?01:02
_Snake_lol01:02
_Snake_Yea brodel01:02
Filladowahey - got kubuntu to work :D :D01:02
brodelyeah01:02
_Snake_Hang on I got instructions on how to install it01:02
LjL_Snake_: if it's about installing flash or java, everyone will run away. but that's not the case for everything ;-P01:02
chaoticgeekhey my flash works01:03
_Snake_http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php?topic=1646.001:03
brodelbut I need flash!01:03
libbenwhat was the command to clear the cache from debs?01:03
libbenso it wont install a old deb?01:03
_Snake_Go there brodel01:03
brodelwtf01:03
chaoticgeekyou go to flash.com I think01:03
libbenapt-get clean cache?01:03
brodelI didn't know there was a kubuntu forums lol01:03
_Snake_Yepperz01:03
_Snake_I figured that all by myself01:03
_Snake_Just use what I did, and download the file off of flash sites01:04
Delvienhobbsee got it fixed01:04
Hobbseecool :)01:04
LjL!flash01:04
ubotuhmm... flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:04
libbenapt-get clean cache?01:04
chaoticgeekgo here http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux&P3_Browser_Version=Netscape401:04
LjLjust to mention that ubotu can be useful01:04
LjLlibben: apt-get clean you mean?01:04
_Snake_whats obotu?01:04
Delvienhobbsee know anything about ACPI?01:04
_Snake_ubotu**01:04
Hobbseeah, not really, no01:04
LjLlibben: but that's not to make it avoid installing old debs01:05
Hobbsee!ubotu01:05
chaoticgeekdowload unzip and open the commandline and sudo ./flashplayer-installer01:05
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.01:05
_Snake_sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree THAT DOES NOT WORK01:05
libbenyeah? it removes the debs doesnt it?01:05
LjLlibben: to install updated things, you need apt-get update01:05
chaoticgeekguys who needs flash?01:05
chaoticgeekI can tell ya01:05
libbenyeah. allready done that01:05
chaoticgeekand it works, and it works in konqueror01:05
LjLlibben: it flushes the cache. the main (only?) purpose of it is to free up disk space01:05
brodel_Snake_: you entered the patch for firefox.. that will make it work in konqueror too?01:06
_Snake_yes01:07
_Snake_Konqueror scans for all plugins01:07
brodelroger that01:07
DelvienOpera > Firefox >Konqueror> IE01:08
chaoticgeekyep01:08
DelvienFirefox is a Memory hog,  Konqeror doesnt feel like a web browser to me01:08
_Snake_I love konqueror01:09
Delvieni love it as a file browser01:09
Delviennot as a web browser01:09
_Snake_Great idea, integrating the file browser and web01:09
_Snake_Whys that?01:09
LjLerrr stop talking about it01:09
LjLit just crashed on me01:09
_Snake_lol01:09
Delvienhaha01:09
LjLperhaps it's ashamed of you talking about it, so stop :P01:09
_Snake_Del are you saying IE owns all??01:09
DelvienIm no01:09
Delviennot01:09
Delvien> means greater than01:10
_Snake_Ahh...oops01:10
_Snake_Missintertpreted (sp?)01:10
_Snake_lol01:10
Delvienjeese someone didnt take math in middle school :P01:10
Delvienhehe jk01:10
_Snake_:-D01:10
DelvienIE owns a pile of donky crap01:10
_Snake_Indeed01:10
Delviennothing else01:10
_Snake_lol01:10
DelvienIE7 is kinda nice, but not as nice as firefox or opera01:11
_Snake_http://www.spreadinternetexplorer.com/01:11
_Snake_Hahaha01:11
DelvienVista is a mem hog01:11
LjLDelvien: myself, i'm not sure i'd call opera better than firefox... also, if i have to take the "political" issues into consideration, then it's definitely firefox > opera for me01:11
_Snake_Vista is a everything hog01:11
chaoticgeekeww01:11
_Snake_It looks sexy tho01:11
Delvienljl Firefox uses alot of memory. and does the same thing as opera01:12
Delvienaye snake01:12
_Snake_So after I got rid of the beta, I just installed a skin over XP :)01:12
DelvienFirefox but as firefox becomes more popular, more hackers look at it01:12
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LjLDelvien: yeah opera is quite lightweight, at least as far as filesize is concerned (don't really remember about amount RAM taken)01:12
Delvieni do not skin XP anymore. just boot it up to play games. thats all XP is for.01:12
_Snake_lol01:12
DelvienLjl firefox 94 megs, opera 35-4001:13
LjLDelvien: many versions of Opera, though, have also been much less stable than current Firefoxes, for me01:13
_Snake_I <3 my firefox01:13
DelvienLjl i use 8, very stable , not one crash, firefox has crashed several times01:13
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_Snake_Theres a browser thats called...hmmm...i think avant01:13
Delvienbut i still love firefox dont get me wrong, i would still use it if it didnt use so much memory01:13
_Snake_Something like that01:13
chaoticgeekxp is for my  tv tuner so I can record shows01:14
_Snake_Wow that program is crazy01:14
_Snake_So many options01:14
Delvienchaoticgeek TV ? holy crap thats still around !!!01:14
chaoticgeekyep01:14
brodelodd.. I installed it there, and it worked for firefox.. :D01:14
_Snake_wtf whut is tv??01:14
brodelbut not for konqueror01:14
LjLDelvien: firefox did crash on me a few times on Linux, but it was very stable on Windows. i haven't tried Opera 8, i stopped using it at 7 (and only ever used it on Windows)01:14
_Snake_Try settings konquerors plugin settings01:14
chaoticgeekgot to record my anime when I'm sleeping01:14
Delvienljl ah windows is unstable as it is.. lol 01:14
LjLwindows 2000 is quite stable01:15
Delvienchaoticgeek gnutella for me :P01:15
_Snake_You have to change the path I think (Go to control center > Internet > Browser > plug ins (I think))01:15
_Snake_http://www.avantbrowser.com/ That browser is option crazy01:15
LjLi've hardly ever see Linux actually *crash*... but i've hardly ever seen win2000 do it, as well01:15
_Snake_LOLOLOL!!! GUYS READ THIS!:01:16
_Snake_Is Avant Browser a secure browser?01:16
_Snake_Yes, Avant Browser is secure. Since it's based on Internet Explorer, Avant Browser is as secure as Internet Explorer.01:16
_Snake_Thats not very secure...01:16
Delvienwho likes to use win2000, eek01:16
LjLhey, konq crashed again, what the hell01:16
LjL_Snake_: ahahahahah01:16
_Snake_LjL: It don't like you :)01:16
Delvienljl im pokeing my konq voodoo doll01:17
LjLDelvien: i don't quite *like* to use windows, i just said 2000 is stable01:17
Delvienhehe01:17
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_Snake_Most of NT is01:18
Delvienwhoa01:18
LjLhey, a netsplit01:18
LjLlong time no see01:18
_Snake_I cant say XP is that bad compared to...oh I dunno........ME01:18
Delvienlol01:18
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Delvienmy wifi light wont turn on, Damn you wifi light of uberness01:18
Delvienjeebus01:19
Delvienmy wifi light wont turn on, Damn you wifi light of uberness01:19
LjLME is the most unstable thing i've seen on earth01:19
LjLbut i'm damn sure that if i had gone in space, ME would be the most unstable thing i'd have seen in space01:19
_Snake_lol01:19
_Snake_That was weird.01:19
_Snake_ME was my third OS.01:19
_Snake_Came on a Emachine.01:19
_Snake_Go Figure.01:19
_Snake_lol, I would be scared to be launched into space running ME01:19
_Snake_Hahaha01:19
Delvienemachine !!!! OMG burn it !01:19
_Snake_Yes I did01:19
_Snake_Litterally01:20
_Snake_In our shop, the 2 most machines I see (in order) Dell, then Emachine01:20
_Snake_Both are junk01:20
Delvienhey now01:20
_Snake_Emachines more so, but I think I see more dell because thats what a lot of people buy01:20
DelvienDell laptops are great, their desktops stink01:20
brodelToshiba laptops rawk01:21
brodelSony VAIO SUCKS01:21
Sonny_Wertzikhello01:21
DelvienVAIOs are overpriced HPs01:22
Delvienand HPs suck ass01:22
Delvienthe only thing HP makes that is good is printers01:22
brodelI bought a VIAO as my first laptop.. worst purchase I ever made01:22
Delvienits all hype01:22
brodelMy friend has a HP laptop.. he seems to like it.01:22
Delvienwell he prolly bought it at bestbuy... lol01:22
brodelCircuit city actually01:23
Delvieneven worse...01:23
DelvienNEVER buy a computer at a retail store01:23
brodelnot really.01:23
brodelwell he doesn't like to shop around01:23
brodelHe'll walk around and see it and just go I want that. I can go to the internet kiosk and show it to him for cheaper online and he doesn't care.01:23
Delvienim just going to stop , because i'll start calling him derrogitory names if we continue this..01:24
brodelI bought this laptop from some retailer on ebay. Paid $700 less than what they were asking in the store for a model under this one.01:24
brodelhaha01:24
Delvienhehe what brand?01:24
brodelToshiba01:24
Delviennice01:24
brodelI love it.01:24
DelvienToshibas are nice01:24
brodelMUCH better than that VAIO POS I had.01:25
DelvienIts the Home/home office IBM01:25
brodelI think when it's time to upgrade I'll probably get another 01:25
DelvienI own a dell i6000d01:25
brodelIBM is overpriced IMO.. but they make nice stuff.01:25
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Delvienpaid 1247, was worth 2200 at the time01:25
brodelWe used to get IBMs at work.. now we get Dells.01:25
Delvienwell IBM is business class solid as a rock01:25
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brodelYeah I think I paid like 1300 or so for this.. at the time that was a good deal.01:26
Delvienaye01:26
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Delvieni bought mine "refurbished" but all it was someone returned it to get something else, so they knocked 1000 dollars off the price because it was "USED" but was only 1 and a half months old01:26
brodelI got my buddy to put in the kubuntu live CD in his HP and it didn't detect the wireless card.. he took it right out after that. Now I'll never get him on linux haha01:27
Delvienlive CD doesnt work for my wireless either01:27
Delviennot even ethernet01:27
brodelI have an IBM sitting right beside me.. just don't use it.01:27
laptop!sources01:28
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:28
Delvienmy GF has a R32, nice laptop but nothing isinternal  , so she has a bluetooth dongle and a PCMCIA wifi card sticcking out01:28
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brodelhehe... 01:28
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Delvienlol01:28
brodelI had the option of internal.. but it was too much and I already had this card which is 200mw01:29
brodelUsed to do a lot of wardriving and such.01:29
Delvienbad boy !01:29
brodelbah01:29
brodelit's a hobby01:29
brodelamazing how many people just don't care to even try to protect it01:30
Delvienwhen my internet gets cut off ( outage ) i use my neighbor's. who is to stupid to secure it01:30
brodelAt my dads house sitting in his driveway, I can get 10 access points.. 8 of which are 100% open01:30
Delvienlol sad01:30
brodeland I found those with my pocket PC.. which I know probably has shit for range01:31
brodelno, you know what's sad?01:31
brodelmy dad uses dial up01:31
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Delvienomg !01:32
laptophow do i edit my sources.lst again?01:32
chaoticgeekmy grandmother and aunt and other anunt still use dial up01:32
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Delviensudo kedit /etc/apt/sources.list01:32
chaoticgeeksudo kedit01:33
Delvienerr,01:33
chaoticgeekyes01:33
Hobbseekdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list01:33
chaoticgeekor kate01:33
Hobbsee!tell Delvien about root01:33
Delvienoh ok , thought apt part was wrong01:33
brodelwell I think it's sad he has dialup and there are 8 open access points he could use01:33
laptopthats it thanks01:33
chaoticgeeksudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list01:33
Delvieni dont want to know about root *pout * hehe :P01:33
chaoticgeekvim too01:33
chaoticgeekI like vim01:33
chaoticgeekvi01:33
Delvienive NEVER had a problem using sudo to kedit01:34
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Delvienbrodel but he could be arrested for using those 801:34
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HobbseeDelvien: true, neither, but i get told off every once in a while for recommending sudo lol01:34
DelvienHobbsee lol, its alright, we all understand. 01:35
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Snake_Get guys, sorry network went down01:35
brodeldamn.. power just went out here :(01:36
Delvienlaptops = great01:36
Snake_Hell yes01:36
Snake_Its to bad DSL/Cable needs power to operate :)01:36
Snake_I got a backup dialup connection tho01:36
brodelWell I have a 650 VA UPS on my firewall and router\access point01:37
brodelso I'm good for a while01:37
Snake_NOOOO01:37
Snake_FUCK!!!!!!01:37
Snake_AHHHHH!!!!01:37
brodel...01:37
Snake_I WAS AT 60%!!!!!!!!!!!01:37
Snake_:(01:37
Snake_Whats a good downloading program? (LjL) lol01:38
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LjLsnake: wget is good, i also use axel to download from many mirorsr (it's got automatic search) concurrently01:39
Snake_Windows?01:39
LjLSnake_: both work from the command line, there are surely a ton of KDE downloaders, but i don't know about them... anyway, i they many of them use wget or axel as backends anyway01:39
LjLno, linux01:39
brodeldamn I need faster wireless01:39
naliothSnake_: please watch your language01:40
LjLfor windows, you can use wget too01:40
naliothSnake_: wget is good, so is curl01:40
LjLor just download GetRight01:40
Snake_:-D okay, and I couldn't figure out wget01:40
LjLGetRight can do multi-mirrors download too01:40
naliothSnake_: please learn it. if something has a URL, wget can get it01:40
naliothubotu: tell Snake_ about CoC01:40
LjLnalioth: if something has many urls, axel makes good use of my 10mbps connection ;)01:41
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naliothLjL: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please01:41
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brodelI know if I had a 10mbit connection I'd never have any disk space either.01:42
Snake_kik01:42
Snake_lol*01:42
LjLbrodel: yeah, i also never delete anythign01:42
Snake_I'm only on a 3mbps01:42
Snake_LjL how much space u got?01:42
LjLwell, i don't have a public IP on the other hand01:42
naliothLjL: must buy a new 500gb HD every 2 weeks01:42
LjLSnake_: i've got two hds 20 megs each, then i've got 80+20 on my debian server01:43
brodel...01:43
brodel20MB each?01:43
Snake_o.001:43
naliothLjL: i hope you meant gigabytes01:43
Snake_Same01:43
brodelthat's some old hardware there bubba01:43
LjLnalioth: erm, yea, i go01:44
LjLdo01:44
laptop!restricted01:44
uboturumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats01:44
LjLnalioth: you must understand that at this very moment i cannot even move my mouse most of the time, everything is crawling and trying to crash down =)01:44
laptop!FreeFormats01:44
ubotufrom memory, freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats01:44
Snake_LjL: Thats teally bad01:45
Snake_I got 450 gigs just on this PC alone01:45
Snake_Can never have to much space01:45
Delviensomeone just installed kubuntu :P 01:45
brodelI have all my stuff on my server01:45
LjLbrodel: old hardware? aha the HDs are the best thing i've got! my debian is running on a 300MHz K6, and it was running on a 200MHz before (when i used the 300MHz one myself... now i've given up and bought a cheap Sempron)01:45
brodelman..01:46
brodelI'll give you a better PC than that lol01:46
Delvienhaha01:46
Snake_I'm runnin P4 2.8 GHz @ 3.2, 1 gig o ram and my 450 gigs01:46
DelvienLjl why dont you buy something better?01:46
DelvienPentium M centrino (sonoma) 1.6ghz with 512, 80gig sata, 01:47
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DelvienATI x300 128mb Pci express 01:47
Snake_9600 AIW01:47
Snake_;)01:47
Delvien:)01:47
Filladois there an easy way to get amarok playing MP3's?01:48
Delvien!tell Fillado about restrictedformats01:48
LjLdelvien: well my own computer is quite ok now, it's got a sempron 2400 (which is 1.6GHz or something, i think) and half a gig of ram... i've spent 180 for the whole thing, and i'm currently content with that01:48
LjLDelvien: as far as my debian server, it does a wonderful job with its K601:48
Delvienwhat is that in US dollars01:48
Snake_I spent $1200 on my PC a year ago..now its worth nothing01:48
Filladolol ok01:48
Snake_Thats one thing I hate about comps01:49
Delvienyou build it yourself?01:49
Snake_Yea01:49
Delvien1200 dollars?01:49
Delvien you got ripped01:49
Snake_*nods*01:49
brodelwtf01:49
LjLDelvien: it's about 200$ i think01:49
Snake_Last year??01:49
LjLDelvien: one euro is about 1.2 dollars01:49
DelvienLjL  ah kk01:49
brodelI built my last PC for much less than that and I still use it.01:49
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DelvienI built a PC 4 years ago for 300 dollars and it runs Everquest 2 no lag01:49
brodel(AMD XP 2700+)01:50
LjLDelvien: of course i re-used quite some stuff, including the disks and the graphics card01:50
Delvienyeah :)01:50
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Snake_I still use this too, but I ASSUME ive put 1200 into it, I fried up a 9800 in it, and a 2.6 P401:50
Delvienouchie01:50
Snake_Yea01:50
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Snake_I was mad when my 9800 burned :(01:51
brodelehh.. I can't afford PC gaming01:51
Snake_The new system i'm lookin into is going to cost me around 2,500 - 3k01:51
brodelnew video card every 3 months or so.. damn all that.01:51
Snake_Haha forget that01:51
Delviensnake_ what are you looking t01:51
Snake_Another home built, but either a AMD x2 or a operten01:52
Snake_Still deciding01:52
_crimsonTcl configuration... found /usr/lib/tcl8.4/tclConfig.sh01:52
_crimsoni get this01:52
Delviendual core?01:52
Snake_The X2 is01:52
_crimsonchecking for Tk configuration... configure: WARNING: Can't find Tk configuration definitions01:52
Delviencool01:52
Delvienim an intel guy 01:52
Snake_I was too01:52
Delvien=D01:52
Snake_I gave up on intel01:52
nalioth_crimson: you need libtk*-dev01:52
brodelI wish AMD made more for laptops01:52
Snake_Herd of DRM?01:52
Delvienwhen you fry 5 AMDs in a row just trying to build a PC , you tend to not buy them anymore, 01:52
Delviencost me 400 bucks01:53
Snake_Delvien, have you herd of DRM?01:53
brodelI've never had an AMD chip die on me.01:53
Delvienwhats DRM  stand for01:53
brodelDigital rights management01:53
Snake_Yep01:53
Delvieno , well yeah lol01:53
Snake_Intel secretly put it on all their new chips. It's a bad bad thing.01:53
Delviensony did that kinda crap 01:53
brodelhaha01:53
Delvienbut i havent heard of anything about that from intel01:54
brodelYou see their apology for that CD rootkit thing?01:54
Snake_HAHA did you guys hear about that whole sony crap??01:54
Delvienno01:54
brodelI actually had to respect them for that though.01:54
DelvienSnake_ yes01:54
Snake_hang on01:54
Snake_Yea01:54
brodeltook them long enough, but they did admit it.01:54
Snake_Did you see that after you uninstall their protection, that it opens up another security hole?01:54
Snake_rofl01:54
DelvienI think DRM is such bs anyway, if they didnt overprice everything, not as many people would steal it01:55
Snake_Yep01:55
brodelhttp://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/01:55
DelvienSnake_ exactly the reason i dont do ANYTHING but game on Windows01:55
Snake_I BOUGHT photoshop, after that, and this PC, I didn't have enough for dreamweaver, so I said screw it, piriate01:55
brodeland in Vista.. you will have to buy a special kind of monitor to watch HDDVDs on it01:56
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Snake_Haha yea I herd about that01:56
Snake_Retarded01:56
brodeland XP won't be able to play them01:56
Delvienbuy photoshop?  pshh i never have01:56
Delvieni have the MX studio :P01:56
brodelso do I01:56
Snake_Same01:56
brodelwouldn't know what to do with it though01:56
Snake_That and photoshop CS201:56
Delvienonlything i use is Dreamweaver.01:56
Delvienso awesome...01:57
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Delvienfrontpage can go suck a donkey01:57
brodelI tried dreamweaver.. I suck01:57
Snake_Haha frontpage sux01:57
Delvienaye01:57
Snake_GoLive is alright01:57
Snake_To a extent01:57
Snake_But nothing beats good old fashion notepad01:57
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Delvientaking about my GFs IBM laptop to see if she can have internal wifi01:58
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Snake_What model?01:58
brodel#samba is dead01:58
DelvienR3201:58
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Snake_Where you bringing it??01:58
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Delvienumm to my lap.. i m taking it apart01:59
Snake_Ohhh01:59
Snake_:)01:59
Snake_IBMs suck to take apart...01:59
Delvienaye02:00
Delvienhmm02:00
Delvienmemory is above PCI card.. BAH this sucks02:00
Snake_*nods*02:00
Snake_Do you have a repair guide?02:00
Delvienyep02:00
Snake_Good02:01
Delvienhttp://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-3979202:01
Snake_*nods*02:01
Delvienwoops thats for R30.. hmm02:01
Snake_Should work anyway02:01
Delvienits not the same02:01
Snake_Like the T20,21,22, and 23 all come apart the same02:01
Delvienbelow the meory is the MB02:01
stefancan anyone help me ?02:03
stefanhow to get java with kubuntu ??02:03
stefanbecause i think it is already installed02:03
stefanbut i dont know where02:04
Snake_Hang on, let me get tech support :)02:04
Snake_LjL. Paging LjL02:04
LjLhere02:04
LjLah, don't ask me java02:05
Snake_Lol02:05
stefan:(02:05
LjLdon't have it installed, and probably never will02:05
Snake_Hang on stefan02:05
Snake_okay?02:05
stefanokk02:05
Snake_Crap..where did that guide go...02:05
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stefanwell i think i only have to tell Firefox where java is02:05
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stefanbut i dont see any jre folder02:05
Snake_Are you in breezy?02:06
stefanstefan@KUbuntu:~/Desktop/Downloads$ java -version02:06
stefanjava version "1.4.2"02:06
stefangij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)02:06
stefanCopyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.02:06
stefanThis is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO02:06
stefanwarranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.02:06
stefanlook02:06
stefanyes i am in breezy02:06
Snake_Okay02:06
Snake_Follow his02:06
Snake_this*02:06
Snake_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c24902:06
stefan*this02:06
stefan*this->02:07
DelvienAHHA !!! it has its own cover for mini PCI,but this thing is HUIGE !@!02:07
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Snake_Stefan does that help?02:07
stefanthe package is not available02:08
stefanits not in my repository list02:08
Delvienhey battery only lasts for an hour.. eek02:08
Snake_Did you sudo apt-get update?02:08
stefanlike many other things02:08
stefanno02:08
Snake_Do that first02:08
stefanbut i did update with Adept02:08
Delvienand her screen is the dullest, thing ever..02:08
Snake_Hmm did you activate extended regiestrys?02:09
stefanstill not available02:09
Snake_?02:09
stefanhmm now i uncommented the other reposes02:09
stefani dunno about ext. reg02:09
Snake_resps** whatever02:10
Snake_http://www.psychocats.net/linux/sources.php02:10
Snake_Do that, then search for java (or do the sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 if your using the CLI)02:10
LjL!java02:11
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs02:11
LjL!javadebs02:11
ubotujavadebs is, like, totally, Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/02:11
Snake_^^More info02:12
LjLyeah do try seveas' repos02:12
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stefanah that sounds good02:13
Snake_Hey LjL can you believe this: It took me like an hour and a half to get to 60% with mozilla, well its been 20 mins on this download manager and im at 42%02:13
LjLwhat downloader is that?02:14
LjLif it's downloading from multiple mirrors, that's no surprise02:14
Snake_"Free Download Manager"02:14
Snake_Nope, just one02:14
LjLwell, once on linux, be sure to try axel and (nalioth's advice, i didn't know about it) prozilla02:15
LjL(and use wget for the more casual, short downloads)02:15
Snake_Whats prozilla do?02:15
LjLsame as axel, basically, but i haven't tried it... i suppose it might search for mirrors using different sites, so perhaps one or the other finds more mirrors02:15
naliothprozilla is a beast. it' multithreaded and can send each thread to different servers02:15
LjLalso, axel (here) has the problem that sometimes it corrupts download02:15
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LjLso i'll certainly try prozilla myself02:16
naliothLjL: does axle send multiple threads to the same server?02:16
LjLnalioth: it can02:16
naliothi love prozilla for it's brutality02:16
brodelhow does that work? Do you have to open it up and put the link in it, or does it open when you start a download?02:16
LjLdoing that might get you banned from some servers, though, one should be careful with that02:16
LjLbrodel: i type "axel URL", or, i suppose, "prozilla URL" :)02:17
Snake_CLIs...02:17
Snake_er02:17
Snake_:)02:17
brodeloh02:17
brodelsounds like a pain02:17
LjLi mean, i suppose there *is* some way to integrate them with a given web browser... there is a way to integrate just about everything in linux02:17
brodelhow does it know the other URLs?02:18
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brodel(for the other mirrors)02:18
BluesRocker!arts02:18
ubotuBluesRocker: I give up, what is it?02:18
LjLwhy a pain, right-click, "copy link", F12 to get yakuake showing, "axel" and middle click02:18
Snake_Searches the file02:18
LjLbrodel: it searches on some site that keeps tracks of mirrors02:18
LjLbrodel: not sure which site right now02:18
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Snake_I suppose it could also google the file name and find mirrors of it02:19
LjLbrodel: or you can just give it the mirror yourself, of course02:19
stefanlach 02:19
Snake_?02:19
Snake_Is that bad?02:19
Snake_Stefan02:19
LjLSnake_: hmm i'm not sure that would be very effective, with FTP for example02:19
stefan?02:19
Snake_you said lach02:19
Snake_Is that good or bad02:19
BluesRockerAnyone has problem with arts engine when starting kubuntu (kde 3.4)?02:19
stefanyea02:19
stefanit means = lol02:19
Snake_Ah good. So you got java in??02:20
stefannot yet02:20
Snake_Damn02:20
Snake_:)02:20
stefanbut i got the repository02:20
stefanand im installing it now02:20
Snake_kool02:20
LjLnalioth: hey, but prozillac isn't in the reps... :\02:20
stefanyea02:21
nalioth!info prozilla02:21
stefanwhere is prozilla ?02:21
naliothyagottabekiddinme02:21
BluesRockerwhy don't you try aria?02:21
naliothprozilla rocks!02:21
Snake_lol02:21
naliothLjL: it's easy to build, and worth the time02:21
LjLnalioth: oh well, i'll try autodeb on it then ;)02:22
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LjLhey, there's an acpi-support in breezy-updates... might that make hibernation work?! who knows?!02:24
Snake_lol02:24
Snake_Whats the diff between hib and session restore??02:24
stefanhmmm obviously adept hang up02:24
LjLSnake_: session restore is just a KDE (or Gnome) function to make the windows you had open re-appear (and, for "session-aware" programs, restore some of their states)02:25
LjLSnake_: hibernation actually save the *whole* RAM of your computer to disk (well it must also save the peripherals' state, which is the harder part) and restores it later02:25
Snake_ah02:26
Snake_Anyone play Soul caliber 3?02:26
naliothSnake_: please join #kubuntu-offtopic to discuss games and such02:26
Snake_Hey cool! okay!02:27
stefanseveas doesnt respond02:27
naliothno, seveas is away atm02:27
stefandarn02:27
Snake_Theres no one in offtopic :)02:28
Snake_Download at 70%02:32
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LjLguess what, it takes about 15 minutes for me to download ubuntu :->02:33
Snake_....02:33
Delvienok?02:34
Snake_LjL You can stop showing off your penis now02:34
LjL:-P02:34
Snake_Just put it away02:34
Snake_:)02:34
Delvienmine is about a foot lo... i mean mine downloads at about 18 minutes02:34
LjLi mean, 15 minutes that's *while* watching webtv...02:34
Snake_Die.02:34
Snake_Wait till I get my lan Center open and i'm ridin T1.02:34
LjLT1 is slow02:35
_crimsoncan you help me with this?02:35
Delvienhow much does t1 cost anyway02:35
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_crimsonhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/43260202:35
DelvienLjL what isp type do you use02:35
LjLFastweb, www.fastweb.it02:35
Snake_T1 is about 500-1500k a month02:35
Snake_Dollars02:35
LjLthey give me fiber obtical, with IP telephony, IP tv and internet02:36
DelvienDSL/CABLE?02:36
Snake_Fiber optic02:36
LjLneither, it's fiber02:36
LjLthere's the catch though, i'm behind a NAT02:36
LjLso i don't have a public IP address02:36
Delvieno..02:36
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Delvienavailabele anywhere else other than Italy :P?02:36
LjLi'm only visible from inside Fastwebnet (i.e. the MAN of fastweb users)02:36
LjLno02:36
Delvienmy area just upgraded to fibre optics02:36
DelvienWell that does me no good... 02:37
Snake_LjL is italy nice?02:37
Delvienim on cable :) hehe02:37
LjLSnake_: could definitely be better02:37
LjLSnake_: i mean, the country is fine, a lot of nice things to see, but also too many problems02:38
Delvienthats every country though02:38
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LjLwell, not all of them are the same though... to begin with, not every country has half of its area governed by a criminal organization02:38
LjLanyway, we're way off topic02:39
Delviencheck out what i created, :) http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3103802:39
Delvienwell took someone elses thing, and completely revamped it02:39
LjLlooks nice, though i'm a bit allergic to eye candy02:40
Delvieneye candy is the shiznit02:40
arcanistheroguenifty looking02:40
LjLnot again02:40
arcanistheroguewowie jee wizz02:40
Delviennice02:40
arcanistheroguewhat was that02:40
Delviennet split02:40
arcanistheroguenet split?02:41
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arcanistherogueo noes!02:41
arcanistherogueaugh its happening on kde too02:41
Snake_What the hell was that02:41
LjLthis is starting to look like IRCNet 7 years ago =)02:41
Delvienin other words bill gates farted02:41
arcanistheroguei dont know :D02:41
Snake_lol LjL02:41
LjLa netsplit is when two IRC servers that are connected to the same network "split", i.e. the connection between them falls (for example because there is a third server in the middle, and it crashes)02:41
Snake_Is italy nice?02:41
Delvienhe said yes02:42
Snake_I didnt get it02:42
Snake_lol02:42
Snake_The network took a shat02:42
Delvien*shoots you with his m4)02:42
DelvienBF2 rox02:42
arcanistheroguewait i had a question on the kde irc02:42
LjLi said it's nice as a country but there are two many political and social problems for my likings02:42
arcanistherogueyou guys could probably answer it though02:42
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arcanistheroguecan you use KDE icons in your site?02:42
arcanistheroguelike a non commercial blog02:42
arcanistherogueare they free to use02:42
Snake_LjL I was thinking of taking a trip over there02:43
Snake_good idea?02:43
Delvienthey should be under the free source license.02:43
DelvienGPL i beleive02:43
LjLfree? no, they'll arrest you if you redistribute open source stuff for any purpose02:43
arcanistherogue<_<02:43
arcanistherogue>_>02:43
Snake_:-D02:43
arcanistheroguei sense sarcasm...02:43
Delvienarcanistherogue http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl.html02:43
Snake_Your sense would be correct....I thin...02:43
Snake_lol02:43
LjLSnake_: you mean, except that we're the only US allies left without a terrorist attack? yeah, besides that, yeah :)02:43
arcanistherogueso, bullshitting aside, i can do this?02:44
arcanistherogueuse the icons?02:44
Delvienprolly02:44
LjLlook at the license, but 99% yes02:44
Delvienif not nazis will rise from their graves and shot your big toes off,02:44
Delvienshoot*02:44
Snake_lol02:45
Snake_YAY Only an hour to download kubuntu02:45
Snake_lot better than 2 and a half with 2 restarts :)02:45
Delvientoo many people are stingy about licsencing (too bad i cant spell it) and i think they should all be run over by a izuzu02:46
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brodelWould ubuntu be at all bearable on a 450 MHz laptop with XFCE?02:46
arcanistheroguei dunno02:46
Delvienyeah should be02:46
LjLbrodel: 450MHz? yeah02:46
chaoticgeekshould be02:46
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arcanistheroguei had it on a 150 MHz laptop with gnome and it cried 02:46
LjLbrodel: some nice amount of RAM would be nice02:46
arcanistherogue:D02:46
arcanistherogue64 MB02:47
Delvien150 mhz hehehe02:47
Delvienhehehe02:47
arcanistherogueit was screaming02:47
Delvienheheheheheh he he h...02:47
Snake_Hey brodel, if it doesnt work, you can always uninstall the GUI :)02:47
Delvienlol02:47
brodelyeah and then what? ebay it? haha02:47
Delvienthats an option02:47
Delvienrun strictly in code.02:47
arcanistheroguehey, where are the icons located by default02:47
Snake_LOL02:47
Snake_Exactly02:47
chaoticgeekI only ran xfce on my old 500 mhz box w/ 256 ram02:47
Delvienumm /usr/share/icons02:47
arcanistherogue /usr/share/icons?02:47
arcanistheroguek02:47
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Snake_Code is hard to run off...how do you view websites like that?02:48
Snake_lol02:48
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Delvienyou dont02:48
Snake_Damn02:48
Snake_DOS was before my time...02:48
brodelkonversation used to turn red on another channel when someone talked.. it just seems to of stopped doing that all of a sudden02:48
DelvienDOS was crap02:48
Snake_That bad huh?02:48
brodeldeltree c:02:48
Delvienonly happens when someone is speaking to you brodel02:48
brodelahh02:48
brodelok02:49
DelvienUnix > dos 02:49
brodelthere's an understatement02:49
Delvieni hate microsoft now, i used to love them02:49
Snake_lol02:49
Delvientill i discovered Linux02:49
Snake_I always hated them02:49
LjLdos is really really bad02:49
Delvienaye02:49
Snake_Ever since my first OS (W95) I hated them02:49
Delvienmade by a man who slept under his desk02:49
LjLi was an AmigaOS user, and i was shocked using DOS02:49
brodelI don't like their whole philosophy on things02:49
brodelThey make their own standards and force them on people to make sure they stay on windows02:50
Snake_Yea, if you dont complie, you lose out on something02:50
DelvienWell yeah.. thats the way the keep your money02:50
brodelThat's how they don't get any of my money.02:50
Delvienim sumwhut new to linux though. about 3 months now02:50
Snake_3 days ;)02:50
brodelThe only thing I am gonna buy from MS is xbox related stuff :)02:50
Delvienlol02:51
Snake_I hate xbox02:51
Snake_PS3 is gonna own it02:51
Delvienseperate part of the co.02:51
LjLi'm quite new to "desktop" linux (though i've tried it first time, like, 6 years ago)02:51
Delviensnake_ duh02:51
LjLbut i've been running debian for my server for quite long, like 3-4 years now02:51
brodelI have nothing against the PS3.. I know nothing about it though. I know the PS2 was a pos02:51
Snake_Thats BS02:51
chaoticgeekI want the nintendo revolution02:51
Delvienonly thing wrong with PS3 is that it is made by Sony.02:51
brodelI had xbox.. then I got a PS2.. sold the PS2 in a month02:51
chaoticgeeklol02:51
brodelmodded both.. 02:51
chaoticgeekI've got a gamecube02:52
Snake_The only thing the Xbox had over PS2 was that damn hard drive02:52
brodelps2 was a joke02:52
brodelI have a gamecube too :)02:52
chaoticgeekand I like it better than the xbox or ps202:52
Delviennintendo is the worse of all game consoles, WAY too many fanboys , even more than sony fanboys02:52
=== Snake_ proud sony fanboy
chaoticgeekmy room mate has a ps2, my brother has a ps2, and many of my freinds have xboxes02:52
chaoticgeekso I have played all 3 quite a bit02:52
arcanistheroguexbox here02:52
arcanistheroguei actually just did a mod 3 hours ago02:52
arcanistheroguei moddded the inline release thing to have a USB connector02:53
brodelThe playstation 2 was all hype though. The console was junk. All hyped up as some super powerful thing.. 02:53
arcanistherogueso i can use it on my comptuer02:53
chaoticgeekHalo, the hard drive, and moddablity were the onlythings for the xbox02:53
Delvien i dont like the Xbox mods, i beleive the only modding that should be done is to a PC or Laptop02:53
chaoticgeekps2 I belived only had rpgs for it02:53
Snake_Not true02:53
Snake_GTA :)02:53
chaoticgeekand gamecube had multi-player02:53
chaoticgeekI hate GTA02:53
chaoticgeekit is so boring02:54
arcanistherogueyeah02:54
Snake_I love it02:54
arcanistheroguei dont see why everyone loves it02:54
Snake_Its a stress reliever02:54
DelvienI love BATTLEFIELD 2 !!!!02:54
brodellol GTA.. that's PS2s audience.. kids wanting to be thugs02:54
LjLi love tetris and tetrinet02:54
Snake_How about Killzone?02:54
Snake_Or Gran Turismo?02:54
brodelHalo02:54
brodelPGR :)02:54
chaoticgeekWhat is GTA? Run around with some clunky controals to shoot and kill anything that moves02:54
Delvieni hate gran turismo02:54
arcanistherogueGT is decent02:54
brodelActually GT was pretty good02:54
Snake_Rachet and clank?02:54
Delvienyuk02:55
arcanistheroguei liked final fantasy too o_o02:55
DelvienFF blows02:55
Snake_FF10, 10x202:55
Delvienall FFs blows02:55
arcanistherogueno rly02:55
arcanistheroguepsone 02:55
arcanistheroguethose were the ones02:55
brodelXBOX has live.. multiplayer on PS2 is a joke and multiplayer is what keeps me playing.02:55
arcanistherogueff7-902:55
arcanistherogueand 602:55
Snake_Delvien what games are good on console to you?02:55
Snake_I prefer PC over all consoles, but thats a diffrent fight02:55
DelvienSnake_ Call of Duty, Burnout. 02:55
brodelIf it wasn't for live.. I would of sold the xbox a while ago02:55
brodelBURNOUT! :D02:55
DelvienHell YEAH !@02:56
Snake_Burnouts cool02:56
Delvien                  aye02:56
Snake_Half Life 202:56
=== Snake_ nods approvingly
brodelToo bad it's EA and I won't buy it.. but I love burnout.02:56
Delvien                                                                                                                                 Hitting the space bar is cool02:56
arcanistherogue                   ya02:56
arcanistherogue02:56
chaoticgeekI really liked metroid prime and metroid prime echos02:56
arcanistherogueword02:56
arcanistheroguegood stuff02:56
Delviennintendo sucks02:56
arcanistherogueO_O02:57
brodelnoun02:57
Snake_Hey hows this: PSP or DS.02:57
arcanistherogueaw hellz o02:57
arcanistherogue*no02:57
Snake_PSP.02:57
Delvienneither, had a PSP sold it for 200 bucks02:57
brodelPSPoo02:57
Delvienno good games, 02:57
Snake_Hey sweet, kubuntu is done!!02:57
Delvienand nintendo DS games are all too kiddie02:57
Snake_ill brb guys02:57
brodelPSP looks great.. but they're are no decent games. Lumines was the best I ever saw for it.02:57
DelvienGTA was nice for it, too bad im not a GTA fan02:57
brodelBah.. GTA.. can't believe it went on as long as has.02:58
arcanistherogueanyone here besides me want a GPX2 <_<02:58
DelvienGPX2?02:58
arcanistheroguehttp://gpx2.com02:58
Delvienoh wait that crappy knock off PSP?02:58
Delvienwill turn out just like the GIZMONDO did.. failure.02:59
arcanistheroguehax and lies!02:59
Delvienit looks cheap too02:59
arcanistheroguewell igotta go study for my test03:00
arcanistheroguesee you guys later03:00
Delvienlata03:00
brodelI've never seen that. That looks pretty cool.03:00
Delvientakes double AAs ... eek03:01
Delviendual core.... power consumption monster.. , this thing is a POS03:02
chaoticgeekI wanna get a DS03:02
chaoticgeekthe metroid game on that was fun03:02
brodelanyone know a cheap modem I could add on to this laptop that would work in ubuntu?03:03
brodelI just bought a damn USB modem.. that doesn't work.03:03
chaoticgeekso bored03:04
Delvienplay BF203:04
chaoticgeekI should study Java gui's 03:04
chaoticgeekstupid java class03:04
Delvienread http://www.notebookforums.com/ :P03:04
chaoticgeekno thanks03:04
Delvien:P03:04
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Snake_Hey im back03:05
Delviencrap !03:05
Delvienhehe jk03:05
Snake_Die.03:05
fatejudgerhow do I tell Konqueror to use arts to output sound?03:06
fatejudgerthe option moved03:06
Delvienslap it and call it sally03:06
Snake_Hmm I still got about 3 hours of civics work to do...should I install kubuntu or do that?03:06
Delvienkubuntu03:06
Snake_Thats what I was thinkin03:06
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Snake_LjL WTF!!!03:07
Snake_Why is my linux not working :(03:07
Delvienwhat do you mean not working03:08
Snake_"Loading /install/initrd.gz...........................................................isolinux: Disk error 80, AX = 4200, Drive 9F03:08
Delviencorrupt iso methinks03:09
Snake_FUUUCKKKK03:09
Snake_Are you joking?03:09
Snake_Crap. Can't swear. SORRY!03:09
Delvieni couldnt get a iso of kubuntu that worked.. had to install ubuntu preview and do all the upgrades03:09
Snake_oh. no.03:09
Snake_i dont have time to redownload all this!03:09
Delvienuse your ubuntu CD03:10
Snake_What ubuntu CD>03:10
Snake_The one I cut up and threw away??03:10
Delviensilly boy, dont do that next time03:10
Snake_Argh.03:10
Delvienwhy would you cut it up?03:10
_crimsonhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/432641 someone could help?03:11
Snake_I cut up all my CDs (paranoia)03:11
Snake_If any thing goes in that trash, I shread it03:11
Delvienlol ... you wierd ass people and your CD destroying.. like anyone cares03:11
Delvienall you have to do is scratch the label off them.. 03:11
Snake_I shread it03:11
Delvieneven one thick line will do it03:11
Snake_:)03:11
Delvienthats just dumb imo03:12
brodelis there a list somewhere of what's installed on the "server" install?03:12
Delvienunless you have some kind of personal info on them03:12
brodelSnake_: just do what I do.. put the CDs in the microwave03:12
Delvienway too far out of my leage _crimson try #ubuntu03:12
Snake_lol03:12
Delvienim tired03:12
Snake_Does that really work brodel ?03:13
brodelyes03:13
Snake_Haha slick03:13
Snake_I never done it03:13
brodelput the label side down so it touches the bottom and put it in there for 5 seconds or until it's *done* (you'll know when)03:13
DelvienSigh, take a spoon and scratch one line through the label ( the part you write on) so you can see through the CD, it works, effecient, and better than putting them in the microwave03:14
brodelmuch faster and it's fun :D03:14
Snake_on 5 seconds?03:14
Snake_Only*03:14
Delvienmine takes 1 second03:14
Snake_lol03:14
brodelyours isn't enough for me03:14
brodelplus it leaves a mess :)03:15
Delviennot really03:15
Snake_lol03:15
Delvienshredding it is messier03:15
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brodeltrue03:15
Snake_not reallly03:15
brodelmicrowve it :)03:15
Snake_Mine goes right in the trash :)03:15
brodelno fuss no mess03:15
Delvienwell you shouldnt need to shred CDs anyway, 03:15
brodelor you could just be big boy and get a CD shredder03:15
brodelI shred a lot of my CDs03:16
brodelsome stuff I don't care.. 03:16
Snake_My shreader ate its 21 page manual as a appitite03:16
Snake_It was sweet03:16
brodelbut some of it I wouldn't let leave the house.03:16
Snake_appitizar**03:16
Snake_lol03:16
Delviendont lie , you all shred them because it makes you feel important !!03:16
Snake_lol03:16
Snake_sometimes03:17
Snake_>.>03:17
Snake_:)03:17
Delvienlies !03:17
brodelI shred them because I don't want people getting it and reading it03:17
Snake_I shread them because....I can.03:17
brodelwell.. I don't shred03:17
brodelbut microwave 03:17
Delvienyou think someone digging through your trash will have a computer !:P03:17
Snake_Maybe03:17
Delvienparanoid people here. 03:17
brodelcopies of MS office we made for work.. microwaved them to make sure no one else was able to use our key03:18
DelvienWell all work related stuff i understand03:18
brodelSome are more concerned with taking a little extra work to make it more secure is all.03:18
brodeljust like my router has a built in firewall.. but I took a PC and made it into a smoothwall 03:18
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Snake_lol03:20
Snake_Hey Delvien, it was the disk03:20
Delviennice03:20
Snake_I must have burned it onto a bad disk, I reburned and it works03:20
Delviencool03:21
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Delvienjust hope not to get the RSOD03:21
Snake_Debian is so easy to set up03:21
Snake_RSOD?03:21
Delvienred screen of death03:21
Snake_Lol yea03:21
Delvienhappens in ubuntu/kubuntu installs if something is wrong03:21
Snake_I've seen it03:21
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Snake_Any RSOD is better than a BSOD03:22
Snake_:)03:22
Delvienaye03:22
Delvienim gonna lay on my couch like a bum and watch some G403:22
Ayidenanyone know what you need to download to b able to properly play quicktime files (.mov files)?03:22
Ayiden!quick time03:22
ubotuAyiden: I give up, what is it?03:22
DelvienOS X?03:22
Ayiden!quicktime03:23
ubotuquicktime is, like, totally, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support (via w32codecs), or see w32codecs03:23
Delvienlater taters.03:23
Snake_C ya03:23
Ayiden-later-03:23
Snake_btw, I r not a tater...03:23
Snake_Ubotu, whats up?03:23
ubotunothing much mate, you ?03:23
Snake_same stuff diffrent day03:24
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Snake_brodel: you still alive?03:24
KnowerrorsAnyone here try using either Symphony OS desktop, or SimpleKDE with Ubuntu?03:25
Snake_Nope03:25
Snake_I think Symphony will be nice03:25
Snake_is its still in testning?03:25
nalioththat factoid is wrong 03:26
naliothquicktime support has nothing to do with w32codecs03:26
Snake_Uh oh ubotu  is wrong?!03:27
Snake_Lol03:27
nalioththe bot is only as good as the crap he is fed03:27
Snake_lol03:27
Snake_Crap in --> crap out03:27
Snake_!quicktime03:27
uboturumour has it, quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support (via w32codecs), or see w32codecs03:27
nalioth!info libquicktime103:28
ubotulibquicktime1: (A library for reading and writing Quicktime files), section libs, is optional. Version: 0.9.3-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 261 kB, Installed size: 820 kB03:28
Snake_Who runs that bot?03:28
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chaoticgeekubuntu I would assume since the info page is on ubuntu.org03:29
Snake_Yes, but someone has to be incharge of inputting all the info03:29
Snake_He should link to the unoffical guide sometime03:29
Snake_That was a great help to me03:29
Snake_http://ubuntuguide.org/ (That may answer every noob question I ever had)03:30
chaoticgeekI still have not read that guide03:30
Snake_Very good guide, specially for refrence03:30
chaoticgeekI winged it and used the forums03:30
chaoticgeekand this place03:30
Snake_lol03:31
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chaoticgeekbut I do have a small collection of linux books and I do have some, not much, prior linux knowladge03:31
naliothSnake_: no no no no dont do taht03:31
nalioth!ubuntuguide03:31
ubotuhmm... ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.03:31
naliothubuntuguide is guaranteed to break your breezy box03:32
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Snake_Oh well it worked for me when I was on hoary :)03:32
chaoticgeekI need some better speakers03:32
naliothSnake_: the ubuntuguide was written for warty warthog, and has not kept up. it is way out of touch with breezy03:32
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Snake_Oh, wow. That's pretty old03:32
Snake_but Revision: 4.17 (Last updated on 2nd August 2005)03:33
chaoticgeekI just say wing it03:33
chaoticgeekyou'll end up getting the hang of (k)ubuntu sooner or later03:33
chaoticgeekI just dived right in two years ago with "learn linux in 24 hours" that came with mandrake 7.something I think03:34
Snake_breezy's install screen is pretty03:34
Snake_much better than hoary and windows03:35
chaoticgeekfrom there I fixed my network problems and got went to the internet03:35
chaoticgeektake the got out03:35
Snake_I just have trouble remebering all the CLI commands03:35
chaoticgeekthe linux bible was a good help too03:36
robotgeekSnake_: man/apropos :)03:36
Snake_?03:36
naliothubotu: tell Snake_ about cli03:36
naliothSnake_: http://www.cmm.uklinux.net/steve/ntt.html03:36
chaoticgeekand Linux Pocket Guide, which helped me so much with getting fimilar w/ the terminal03:37
chaoticgeekI still have the linux pocket guide in my desk drawer, just in case03:38
chaoticgeekls -alh03:38
chaoticgeektar xvf or xjf03:38
Snake_God I love linux's commu03:38
Snake_Thanks guys03:38
chaoticgeekdepending on if its .gzip or .bz203:38
Snake_commun*03:38
chaoticgeekI'm not as good as some others, like the people who can rattle off a whole line of text for one command03:39
Snake_I think I like the linux commun more than windows, because everyone can run windows...while linux, everyone was a noob once...they know what its like03:39
Snake_lol03:39
Snake_If you ask someone for help with windows, they laugh, brag, then help03:39
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Snake_breezy takes a longtime to install ....03:41
chaoticgeekI still know what it is like03:41
chaoticgeekto be nooby03:41
Snake_lol03:42
Snake_Hey is it possible to make a shortcut on my desktop to a folder??03:42
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chaoticgeekummm...03:42
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Snake_I couldn't figure out a way03:43
naliothSnake_: yes it is03:43
naliothSnake_: where is the folder?03:43
Snake_On a NTFS drive03:43
Snake_I mount the drive, then what03:43
Snake_It's hdb1 (If you need that_03:43
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naliothSnake_: open a console and type "cd Desktop" <enter> and then "ln -s /path/to/folder/ name_of_folder_on_desktop03:44
Snake_ok03:45
naliothubotu: tell Snake_ about cli03:45
naliothSnake_: get to readin03:45
Snake_haha03:45
naliothit will help you in ways you can't comprehend03:45
Snake_Hang on im loading up breezy03:45
Snake_This is so much cooler than hoary03:45
richardAnybody know if Kubuntu has had the admin mode fixed. I couldn't set up (enable or disable ) Wifi selection . Buttons locked up . . . 03:45
Snake_oo...that opening sound SUXs.03:45
naliothrichard: have you updated recently?03:46
richardProblem being is I can't get onto the internet with the Wifi . ... it's disfunctional in the Admin Mode. 03:47
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naliothrichard: then you're in a catch-2203:48
richardI'm presently using Ubuntu and Mepis on this computer, but wanted to have Kubuntu because of it's cutting edge approach to software. 03:48
naliothrichard: find a hardline and update03:48
Snake_How do you do a dist update??03:48
richardUbuntu and very nice and Mepis is in the process of updating very slowly . . .. along with Debian. .. .03:49
chaoticgeektype apt-get and it will tell you tword s the top03:49
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naliothSnake_: "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"03:49
chaoticgeekapt-get dist-upgrade03:49
Snake_Ah thanks03:49
chaoticgeekI'm just a lil slow03:49
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Snake_lol03:50
richardQuestion, why don't these distro's update their ISO images as fixes are applied so that the very latest can be had?03:50
Snake_That would be common sense, great minds don't have that ;)03:51
Snake_:)03:51
Hobbseerichard: good question, wish they did.  I know they do daily cd's during late testing for the next version03:51
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richardIt seems that Kubuntu has been behind the ball on some of these problems with their software. . . I was amazed that they would come out with 'breezy' as quickly to keep pace with 'Ubuntu' only to find out that it had major software bug problems. . ..03:52
Hobbseerichard: which bugs?  seems some of them came with kde 3.4.303:53
Hobbseebeta1 or the rc1 of kde3.5 seems far more stable03:54
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richardThe problems that I've had with Kubuntu is with there specialized admin mode screen and some of the key functions that lock up when enabling Wifi. 03:54
_crimsonhi, someone could help?  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/4326703:55
Hobbsee*nods*03:55
Hobbseesorry _crimson - no lynx on here yet03:55
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naliothwow thats cool. crimsun that's an empty pastebin03:56
naliothcrap03:56
nalioth_crimson: that's an empty pastebin03:56
_crimsonhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/43267603:58
_crimsonforgot the last 603:58
richardAnyone try Ubuntu? It's pretty smooth. (I prefer Kde. .. but feel Gnome is nice and the graphics pretty smooth when you add in additional artwork for borders, splashscreens, Icons, etc. )03:58
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richardGood talking to you all. ... ..04:00
_crimsonnalioth: what you think?04:01
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generallee5686if i get 2285fps in glxgears, does that mean my 3d acceleration is working?04:02
nalioth_crimson: i have 0 clue.04:02
naliothgenerallee5686: yes it is working04:02
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generallee5686k good, now my 2nd question, when i rebooted, the resolution went to 1024.768 and it wont let be go any higher?04:03
generallee5686i need to be at 1280x800, and my xorg.conf does have that resolution in it04:03
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_crimsonok04:05
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naliothubotu: tell generallee5686 about fixres04:07
Hobbseemuch quieter in here now...04:08
generallee5686i put my xorg.conf in pastebin if that helps04:08
naliothubotu: tell generallee5686 about fixres04:09
naliothi am tired 04:09
generallee5686i got it04:09
generallee5686sorry04:09
naliothsorry generallee5686 04:09
generallee5686didnt see the message04:09
naliothubotu: tell generallee5686 about xcfg04:09
naliothgenerallee5686: see the xcfg msg and run the command. UNselect the resolutions you want and select the one you do04:10
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Cornwall52tell generallee5686 about xcfg04:28
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Cornwall52ubotu: tell generallee5686 about xcfg04:29
naliothgenerallee5686: any luck with the x reconfigure?04:31
generallee5686mmm not really04:35
generallee5686i think my refresh rates are messed up04:35
generallee5686for horizontal it says 30-67 and vertical is 30-60, this is a laptop04:36
naliothlcd panels have no refresh rates04:36
generallee5686should i take out those lines then?04:36
naliothdid you select "find my hardware automatically?"04:37
generallee5686yea04:37
LeeJunFanargh, klibido forgot all my settings.04:37
generallee5686it was working fine before i installed fglrx04:37
generallee56861280x80004:38
nalioththere should have been a section of questions about selecting lcd or tube monitors04:38
generallee5686hmm04:38
generallee5686ill do it again04:38
naliothgenerallee5686: now i understand. ATI has screwed you (you are not the first and will not be the last)04:38
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generallee5686i got the driver to work flawlessly on ubuntu04:41
nalioththen it should work fine now, x/k/ubuntu are the same04:42
generallee5686yup04:42
generallee5686whats xubuntu04:42
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nalioth!xubuntu04:43
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu04:43
generallee5686oh thats cool04:43
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generallee5686but yea there was no question for lcd monitors04:44
naliothstrange04:44
generallee5686ok gotta try again04:46
generallee5686brb04:46
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crimsonhi can you help me with this?  http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/43274405:20
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fatejudgeris there a way to close tabs using a middle click in Konq?05:21
fatejudgerwhy can't I use the enter key next to my number pad on my keyboard in Speed Crunch?05:25
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crimsonhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/43274405:28
fatejudger?05:28
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techniqhi.. I've just recently decided to try out kubuntu (coming from suse 10) and had a question regarding the repositories.. are all / any debian repostories compatable with kubuntu05:48
kkathmantechniq: not completely no05:49
kkathmanyou need to use the ubuntu repos05:49
crimsunnot really binary-compatible. Almost completely source-compatible, though.05:49
techniqi c..  is there a good site(s) to search for reposities such as like apt-get.org?05:49
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kkathmantechniq: you can use apt-cache search at the CLI05:50
kkathmanor use a variety of package tools that come with the install05:51
techniqI'm trying to find a repository for an app that is not currently in my current repositories05:51
techniqwebmin.. for instance, but figure I will find others05:52
kkathmanapt-cache search webmin brings back alot of things if you have the right sources05:53
kkathman!info webmin05:53
ubotuwebmin: (web-based administration toolkit), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.230-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1154 kB, Installed size: 6368 kB05:53
techniqwhere can I find those sources ;)05:54
kkathman!sources05:55
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic05:55
kkathmanyou'll want breezy most likely if you have a recent install05:55
techniqthanks.. I think I may just have to enable the universe source..  I have webmin now :)05:59
techniqthanks for the help05:59
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JonasNZhow can i teach my box to sleep / suspend to disk?06:06
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kkathmanmaybe give it Lunestra?06:07
skypalol06:08
JonasNZi take it thats some sort of sleeping pill ?06:08
JonasNZlol06:08
skypaIt might OD from that :)06:08
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kkathmanyah it is :)06:18
mustard5raaaawr!06:19
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chaoticgeekI keep having problems where applications will now start. I get the lil bouncing icon but06:19
chaoticgeekthey just never end up starting06:19
mustard5I'm too bored staring at the walls and listening to mine gran telling me the same stories I heard 20 times last wekk06:20
RedLeaderso you've just got a bouncing icon, but no program?06:20
chaoticgeekyep06:20
RedLeadersounds like fun06:20
chaoticgeekI just tried to get amarok to load twice06:20
beefsprocketi get that with synaptic all the time06:20
RedLeadera new ms product windows bounce!06:20
chaoticgeekits not just amarok, I have problems w/ kate06:21
chaoticgeekand kaffine06:21
beefsprocketi find it is mostly gtk apps06:21
chaoticgeek4 times to try and get amarok to go and no go06:22
beefsprockettried it from a terminal?06:22
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chaoticgeektrying it now06:22
beefsprocketyou can also try prepending "strace" and see if any errors come up at the end06:22
chaoticgeekno luck trying to launch it from terminal06:23
beefsprocketany error?06:23
chaoticgeeknope, it just sits there06:23
beefsprocketmight check for any decrepit process(es) lying around06:24
beefsprocketno idea though -- as I said, same thing happens to me06:24
chaoticgeekkate is working now06:24
sophie_chaoticgeek: try running sudo kbuildsycoca06:24
sophie_chaoticgeek: and after your application06:24
sophie_whres chaoticgeek gone06:26
RedLeaderms fix mebbe?06:27
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celeratehi06:32
celerateis anyone here availble to help?06:33
RedLeaderask, someone will probably anwser06:33
celerateok, I was wondering if there was an updated package for the drivers for the AR521206:34
RedLeadernot a clue06:34
RedLeaderanyone?06:34
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celerateI saw the instructions on how to compile them myself, but the other nic on that computer isn't supported either so there's no internet access whatsoever, therefore getting the kernel source and updating it is going to be real pain if I can't get the ar5212 working, or the other nic06:36
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celerateGuess I'll have to come back and ask again later. Thanks anyway RedLeader.06:40
celeratebye06:40
LinuxBrickquick noob question here06:42
LinuxBrickwhy is there no /etc/ld.so.conf file?06:42
kkathmandont know what an ld.so file is supposed to do?06:44
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crimsunLinuxBrick: because there doesn't need to be06:44
crimsunLinuxBrick: I presume this is a fresh Breezy install.06:45
kkathmankinda thought that was the answer crimsun :)06:45
crimsunin previous versions, like Warty, there was an /etc/ld.so.conf because we had libs in /usr/X11R6/lib06:45
crimsunBreezy does away with that06:45
LinuxBrickokay06:45
LinuxBrickSo what controls the shared library paths?06:46
crimsunthe same as any other distro, ldconfig.06:46
crimsunwe just have everything necessary by default in /usr/lib, which is the default location anyhow.06:47
crimsunerr, /lib and /usr/lib06:47
crimsunif you need to add a path for ldconfig, use the same file06:48
crimsuni.e., /opt/lib in /etc/ld.so.conf06:48
crimsunthen rerun sudo ldconfig06:48
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LinuxBrickk06:48
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JonasNZwhats the best place to look for help trying to get suspend to ram working, if i try sudo /etc/acpi/sleep.sh i get a bit of black screen, then I see my gfx card details like on boot and then i get blue bars07:08
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JonasNZhow do i get apt-get upgrade to see amarok 1.3.5?07:13
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kubuntu_guyjonasNZ have you upgrade your source list?07:28
hussamkubuntu_guy: is amarok 1.3.5 available through apt-get ?07:32
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kubuntu_guytry searching google. because I already update my repo and still my amarok version 1.3.107:36
hussamok07:36
hussamkubuntu_guy: oh wait, I found packages here http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-1.3.5/07:36
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kubuntu_guyk hussam07:46
kubuntu_guyhussam have you try your ubuntu to be a samab server or any server like mail 07:47
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gigcsplease advise  command sign key  of package.08:01
hussamkubuntu_guy: sorry no08:01
crimsungigcs: come again?08:01
gigcsadvise command sign  key  give package.08:03
gigcscommand sign key package.08:04
aftertafhe wants the command to sign packages i think08:04
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crimsundebsign -k<id> foo.changes08:04
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hussamhow do I backport a simple application? I downloaded the orig.tar.gz , the .diff.gz and the .dsc for that application. now how do I build the deb?08:09
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gigcs<crimsun>not command sign key with .deb 08:17
crimsungigcs: you don't sign a deb, you sign the .changes (or the .dsc, which is included in the .changes)08:19
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pc22how do u run a vnc server?08:19
aftertafpc22:   good question. dunno :)08:20
pc22aftertaf, hehehe08:21
gigcscrimsun:but package not .changes and .dsc . 08:23
gigcscrimsun:How sign key 08:23
crimsungigcs: as in "How do I sign a GPG key?"08:25
crimsungpg --sign-key "Name that You wish to sign"08:25
crimsunsee the GPG documentation08:26
gigcs<crimsun> thank you.08:28
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JonasNZis there a way of upgrading to amarok 1.3.5 using the repos i cant find anything newer than 1.3.1 in the repos08:32
aftertaf!info amarok08:33
ubotuamarok: (versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 2:1.3.1-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5191 kB, Installed size: 13888 kB08:33
aftertafahh. correct08:33
JonasNZyet 1.3.5 is sitting on kubuntu.org/packages08:34
aftertafa shameless lie :)08:34
crimsunJonasNZ: no one's lying08:35
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crimsun1.3.1 is in breezy. 1.3.5 will not go into breezy.08:35
gigcs<crimsun>when use command apt-key update   08:36
crimsungigcs: did you read wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary ?08:36
crimsunI wrote the basics there.08:37
JonasNZcrimsun, so i have to download the .deb's ?08:38
JonasNZand dpkg them?08:38
crimsunJonasNZ: put the repo in your /etc/apt/sources.list, then update and upgrade08:38
crimsunthe instructions are on that Web page08:38
kubuntu_guyguys can you tell me how to I join in fedora group08:39
aftertaf /j #fedora ?08:40
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gsuvegre08:41
gsuvegme dont work the suspend with 3.5x08:42
gsuvegit possibel to start suspend on console ?08:42
JonasNZcrimsun, i cant find info for amarok, the only thing that looks like a repo is the kde51rc08:42
crimsunJonasNZ: erm, front page of kubuntu.org ?08:44
crimsunread the big glaring "Amarok 1.3.5 Released with Kubuntu Packages" story08:44
JonasNZyeah, and i go into the amarok1.3.5 page and its just a couple of dpkgs08:44
crimsunyou need to read the _entire_ page.08:45
crimsunas in, "move your eyes down two centimeters"08:45
JonasNZas in theres nothing there about an apt repo!08:46
crimsunargh08:47
aftertafgsuveg:  i think so but dont know how offhand.... man apm !08:47
gsuveggsuveg@notebook:~$ apm -S08:47
gsuvegNo APM support in kernel08:47
JonasNZcrimsun, are you looking at this page? http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.5.php08:47
crimsunI'm looking at the archive pool08:48
crimsunhttp://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-1.3.5/08:48
aftertafgsuveg:  ahh. kernel not compiled for apm?08:48
crimsunI supposed jr just needs to be asked for Package.gz08:48
crimsunor you can generate it yourself08:49
crimsunPackages.gz, rather08:49
JonasNZwhich  isnt an apt repo08:49
crimsunit's only "not" because it's missing a Packages.gz, which is fairly trivial to create manually.08:49
crimsunin any case, just download the 1, 2, or 3 debs you need08:49
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JonasNZyeah, which is wat im doing i just got confused when you said bang it into sources.list and update upgrade08:50
crimsunI thought there was a Packages.gz you could use08:50
JonasNZ:)08:51
JonasNZdw the n00b forgives you08:51
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gigcscrimsum:How  about redistro package kubuntu install cd . 08:54
gsuvegaftertaf: before 3.5 upgare it worked08:54
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crimsungigcs: I'm having a very difficult time understanding you08:55
aftertaf3.5 upgrade,08:56
aftertafw08:56
aftertafeh?08:56
gigcscrimsum:Do you know ubuntu-keyring  package? 08:58
crimsungigcs: what about it?08:59
gigcscrimsun: package use  redistribution ubuntu.09:00
gigcsor kubuntu09:00
crimsungigcs: what?09:00
gigcscrimsun: never mind.09:02
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JonasNZ!multiverse09:03
ubotusomebody said repositories was How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list09:03
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sfazruzshi all!09:13
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gigcsWho can  add/remove package   on distribution kubuntu install cd  ?09:18
crimsungigcs: the lead can, but please don't rouse him right now; he's in a meeting.09:20
kairu0hey all09:20
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sfazruzswho previously using windows XP?09:24
kairu0me09:24
sfazruzsu know about FTP prog?09:24
sfazruzssuch as filezilla?09:25
sfazruzsis the any prog for ftp for kubuntu?09:25
aftertafsfazruzs:  loads of them search in adept or synaptic09:25
aftertafkbear is one09:25
sfazruzsok thanx09:25
aftertafapt-cache search ftp09:25
gigcscrimsun: when i can ask him?09:26
kairu0there are lots of ftp programs for kde09:26
kairu0kbear is easy to use09:26
crimsungigcs: please wait 30 mins, he's currently in a meeting.09:26
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gigcscrimsun:thank you.09:27
sfazruzsy i dont have kbear?09:27
aftertafsfazruzs:  sudo apt-get install kbear09:29
sfazruzstype at the 'run command'?09:30
sfazruzssorry,i'm a newbie at this kubuntu09:31
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Dark_Sithmorning peeps09:32
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sfazruzsi have a problem right now..09:36
sfazruzsi want to install java 5.0..09:36
sfazruzsi downloaded the file..09:36
sfazruzsi want to install.09:36
skypa!java09:37
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs09:37
skypa!javadebs09:37
ubotusomebody said javadebs was Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/09:37
sfazruzsi typed at the terminal..09:37
sfazruzsit ask my pwd..09:37
Dark_Sithanyone having problems that when you install java, firefix crashes?09:37
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sfazruzsi type then it said authentication failure..09:37
hanseatichi, how can i activate the boot.log in k-breezy?09:38
sampanhow do i kill a process that won't die with sudo kill -9 #  ?09:42
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ilba7ranyone know how to change the keyboard layout to write with languages other than english (arabic to be specific)09:44
hanseaticwhere? kde?09:44
ilba7rany where kde or gnome i have them both09:45
ilba7ri used to do it in hoary but can not do it in breezy09:45
hanseaticyou should have been able to set language and keyboard during installation09:45
hanseaticsampan top09:45
ilba7ri did that09:45
hanseaticthe language set needs to be installed !!!09:46
ilba7rand installed the language package latter again09:46
sampanhanseatic  it's not listed in top -- it's not using resources, but because it's not killed but it's stalled, i can't restart the app (k3b)09:46
sampanand that's a wee bit of a problem09:46
ilba7rhanseatic I used it in hoary so already before09:46
ilba7rbut some how do not want to work in breezy or i forgot how to set it or menus changed. Am really frustrated here09:47
ilba7rsampan try killall name09:47
ilba7rit might be running a daemon too like nautilus09:47
sampanilba7r  just tried that -- still there09:48
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aftertafsambagirl:  you in gnome? look for kio process too09:52
aftertafoops09:52
viviersfRiddell : ping09:57
Riddellviviersf: hi09:57
viviersfello 09:57
viviersfdo you by any chance know09:57
viviersfwhen i run kdesu09:57
viviersfi can set : remember password09:58
viviersfwhere is that stored in ?09:58
Riddellviviersf: probably in kwallet09:58
hanseatici don't think kwallet stores su passwords...09:58
viviersfsniff09:58
aftertafviviersf:  it isnt.... it means the timeout on sudo without needing a password is different/longer/nonlonger used for the s ession (dunno which)09:58
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Riddellaftertaf: nah, it's not that09:59
viviersfyeah Riddell 09:59
aftertafhehehe09:59
viviersfit will never ask for that command again09:59
aftertafuntil reboot09:59
viviersfit should keep it09:59
aftertafRiddell:  hi. what Is it then? i've never really grasped it either ;)09:59
viviersfsee aftertaf 09:59
viviersfno aftertaf see10:00
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viviersfthe impi cd boots into kde10:00
kubuntu_guyguys having problem joining in one channel, username should register to the freenode, my problem I dont know how to register, I follow thier procedure but still Im not able to join fedora channel10:00
kubuntu_guycan youy help me pls10:00
Riddellaftertaf: well it means kdesu remembers the password, but it doesn't affect sudo itself10:00
_sfazruzshow to install java to the firefox?10:01
aftertafok.... i see, and it remembers for how long?10:01
aftertafkubuntu_guy:  go to #ubuntu-unregged and follow their guidelines...10:01
viviersfand then from kde you run the kde installer10:02
viviersfbut i dont want the kdesu to ask a password10:02
viviersfnor do i want to run kde as root10:02
aftertaf!tell _sfazruzs about javadebs10:02
gigcscrimsun: i wait 30 minute . he ready answer my. 10:03
aftertafwtf? you set an alarm? ;)10:03
crimsungigcs: ask Riddell 10:03
_sfazruzs!javadebs10:03
ubotuit has been said that javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/10:03
crimsungigcs: the meeting just wrapped up a few minutes ago10:03
Riddellkubuntu_guy: /msg chanserv help10:04
Riddellkubuntu_guy: /msg nickserv help  rather10:04
viviersfgigcs, your english .....10:04
viviersfthat made no sence10:04
gigcsno,10:04
viviersfgigcs crimsun: i wait 30 minute . he ready answer my. 10:05
_sfazruzsi cant fetch that file:(10:05
viviersferm ....10:05
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_sfazruzsFetched 16.8kB in 1s (11.6kB/s)10:05
_sfazruzsFailed to fetch http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch10:05
_sfazruzsReading package lists... Done10:05
_sfazruzsW: Couldn't stat source package list http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/sg.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:05
_sfazruzsW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems10:05
_sfazruzsE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.10:05
_sfazruzsu see?10:05
gigcsRiddell:i have question ?10:07
Riddellgigcs: mm hmm?10:07
_sfazruzsPackage j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.10:08
_sfazruzsThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or10:08
_sfazruzsis only available from another source10:08
_sfazruzsW: Couldn't stat source package list http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/sg.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:08
_sfazruzsW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems10:08
_sfazruzswhat's wrong with my kubuntu?10:08
viviersf_sfazruzs, change the sg.archive.ubuntu.com to us.archive.ubuntu.cmo10:08
viviersf*com10:08
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_sfazruzswhere to change?10:08
_sfazruzsand how to change?10:08
gigcsRiddell:i experiment add package on kubuntu install cd .10:09
berkesafter my update to breezy my kaffeine is horribly broken;10:09
berkesI already tried an apt-get remove pruge and then an new install, but some files are missing10:09
viviersf_sfazruzs, use synaptic or do this10:09
viviersfsudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list10:09
berkeskaffeine_part.desktop is not there, and I cannot find where to get it from10:09
gigcsRiddell:but i  see apt step fail . in test install.10:09
_sfazruzsPackage j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.10:10
_sfazruzsThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or10:10
_sfazruzsis only available from another source10:10
_sfazruzsW: Couldn't stat source package list http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/sg.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:10
_sfazruzsW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems10:10
_sfazruzssudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list <---then?10:10
viviersfyes10:10
viviersfand change all the sg.10:10
berkes_sfazruzs: do you ave adept?10:10
viviersfto us.10:10
viviersfor yes10:10
viviersfuse adept10:10
_sfazruzsyes..10:10
viviersfjust change your download mirrot10:10
_sfazruzsyes,i have..10:10
viviersf*mirror10:10
_sfazruzshow and where to change?10:11
berkes_sfazruzs: use the edit shources thing there10:11
hanseatichow can i activate the boot.log?10:11
gigcsRiddell:  Please explan.10:11
berkes_sfazruzs: it is file >> manage repositories10:11
gigcsRiddell:Please explan.10:12
kubuntu_guyaftertaf  thanks10:13
Riddellgigcs: you need to explain better what you are doing and trying to achieve10:13
Riddellviviersf: spooky, the source code doesn't seem to actually keep it anywhere, it's a mystery10:13
kubuntu_guyriddell I already try that, what should be my nickserv my nickname like this /msg kubuntu_guy help10:14
viviersfrofl @ Riddell 10:14
viviersfthats just f...ked up10:14
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viviersfjust "remembers" it10:15
viviersfkde > gnome10:15
viviersfits got AI ;p10:15
_sfazruzsguys..10:16
_sfazruzshelp..i'm stuck again...10:16
_sfazruzsi change to us like u guys said..10:17
_sfazruzsbut still can't..10:17
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berkeswho uses kaffeine here?10:18
hanseatickaffeine... yes10:18
berkeshanseatic: in breezy? 10:18
Riddellviviersf: hmm, it does some different stuff when calling su/sudo so maybe it does just count on su/sudo to keep the password10:18
hanseatickubuntu breezy10:18
berkeshanseatic: q fresh install or an upgrade+?10:19
berkesI found that the upgrade broke my kaffeine, on a fresh install it just works10:20
_sfazruzsPackage j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.10:20
_sfazruzsThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or10:20
_sfazruzsis only available from another source10:20
_sfazruzsE: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate10:20
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_sfazruzswhat to do.....10:20
berkes_sfazruzs: that is because you were poking around earleri10:20
berkes_sfazruzs: update the packages and then repair it 5i forgot the commandline flags for that)10:21
_sfazruzssudo apt-get update <---type this right?done already..10:22
_sfazruzsbut still cannot..10:23
gigcsRiddell:i use kubuntu. And i add package font  on  install cd .  i add ubuntu-keyring and  test install . 10:23
gigcsRiddell: ubuntu-keyring pass when i test add package font .i see error "apt step fail"10:24
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kubuntu_guyguys thanks my username is now registered10:25
hanseaticberkes i dont know if it is upgraded10:26
gigcsRidddell:i don't understand .Please explain.10:26
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berkeshanseatic: i mean: did you have kubuntu hedghoc and then upgraded to breezy?10:27
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gigcsRiddell: explain ubuntu-keyring relation  add package .10:28
cynehas anyone got jagged alliance 2 working in breezy?10:30
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gigcsRiddell: Please explain . i dont' understand.10:34
gigcsi am student 10:34
gigcsRiddell:hhh mm10:35
sfazruzshow to change my mirror?10:36
aftertaf!sources10:37
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:37
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gigcsRiddell:i wait you.10:39
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aftertafsfazruzs:  have you enabled universe & multiverse?10:41
sfazruzsi dont know..10:41
sfazruzshow to check?10:41
monadhi... where do i find something like /etc/conf.d/net on kubuntu?10:43
morrowmonad: man interfaces10:43
sfazruzshow to check?10:43
bimberimonad: /etc/network/interfaces10:44
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sfazruzsafteraf,how to enable universe and multiverse?10:45
aftertafsfazruzs:  look at the sources link above...10:46
aftertaf!sources10:46
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:46
aftertafor this one^10:46
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aftertafand open synaptic, or your sources.list in a text editor with sudo, see what you have in there....10:47
aftertafyou can type sudo kate /etc/apt:sources.list10:47
monadhi... where do i find the file for my network settings, like /etc/conf.d/net or something?10:47
bimberimonad: /etc/network/interfaces10:47
aftertafmonad:  someone answered you vefore!!!10:47
aftertaf;)10:47
monadsorry... rebooted in the meantime10:47
aftertaflol ok ;)10:48
bimberimonad: ah :)10:48
monadanother question: is it possible to switch off kdm and do console logins? 10:48
sfazruzsi dont have synaptics..10:48
sfazruzsi cant find my synaptics10:48
monadi need to be able to do root logins and startx as root10:48
aftertafstartx as root is not a good idea at all.10:49
bimberimonad: running X as root is bad security10:49
monadi know... it'S my professor'S machine and he does stuff like that. don't ask me10:49
aftertafsfazruzs:  look for adept10:49
Riddellgigcs: I have no idea what you're asking10:49
skypamonad, sudo passwd root to enable the root account10:50
aftertafmonad:  but you can stop kdm from running yeah, use update-rc.d to remove kdm10:50
bimberimonad: well he needs a good lecture :P10:50
monadbimberi: he works exclusively as root, no way of convincing him to do otherwise10:50
bimberi*(s)he10:50
berkescan anyone do a "locate kaffeine_part.desktop" for me pls?10:50
aftertafmonad:  not good for him.10:50
monadaftertaf: sigh10:51
aftertafyou can run x as user and have a terminal wher you sudo 10:51
aftertafberkes:  /home/user/Desktop ??10:51
berkesmonad: tell him that eventhough he might want it, it often is simply not possible, due to the very nature of the system10:51
berkesaftertaf: is that a guess?10:52
monadberkes: i might, but right now, i need to fix this and make his crap possible, otherwise i'm going to have a shit day10:52
gigcsRiddell:you not make kubuntu.10:52
berkesmonad: :)10:52
skypaso monad, enable to root account and login, where's the problem? ^^10:52
skypato=the10:53
monadit's like that...10:53
berkesmonad: trying things that are not meant to be can give you a shit day too 10:53
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monadsorry... i'm new to kubuntu, just installed a new system yesterday. normally i run gentoo10:53
monadso how does this update-rc.d work? 10:53
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monadis there a way to see what'S running on what level with rc10:54
aftertafberkes:  yu :)10:54
aftertafman update-rc.d10:54
bimberimonad: man update-rc.d10:54
aftertaf?10:54
monad...10:54
berkesno-one who can give the outpup of "locate kaffeine_part.desktop" please?10:54
bimberimanipulates shortcuts in /etc/rc#.d10:55
bimberis/shortcuts/sybolic links/10:55
aftertafdavid@dell:~$ locate kaffeine_part.desktop10:55
aftertaf/usr/share/services/kaffeine_part.desktop10:55
berkesaftertaf: thhanks10:55
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stefanhey10:58
sfazruzs!javadebs10:58
ubotuhmm... javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/10:58
stefandoes anyone know any java ..10:58
stefanahh10:58
stefanthat wont work10:59
extraord1naryIs possible to someone tell my how I can to install the program lwp-8.6.skz10:59
stefanthe seaveas server are down or something10:59
sfazruzswhat's the diff between 'deb' and 'deb-src'?10:59
stefandeb-src is source files11:00
stefandeb are packages11:00
sfazruzsand deb?11:00
bimberisfazruzs: deb = binary packages11:00
sfazruzsthen how do i download the java?11:00
extraord1naryPlease tell me11:00
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_hirsgi11:01
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stefanif i only knew11:01
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stefanwe need another repos11:01
stefanfor java11:01
stefanone that does work11:01
sfazruzsi need java to run on my firefox...anyone have any idea?11:02
berkesbabahbah11:02
berkesfsking upgrade is horrible11:03
stefantry Blackdown Java11:03
stefani think that might work11:03
hanseatichow do i activate boot log?11:04
sfazruzsin my adept,i cant find blackdown java..11:05
sfazruzshow can i get it?11:05
_hirsany one has been able to install mplayer from debian-marillat on breezy?11:06
stefani dont think it works over adept11:06
_hirswhen I do a apt-get install mplayer-k6 I get:11:06
stefanyou have to download the binary directly from web11:06
stefangoogle blackdown java11:07
_hirsmplayer-k6: Depende: libdirectfb-0.9-20 pero no es instalable11:07
stefanhttp://gd.tuwien.ac.at:8090/java-linux/java-linux-d2.html11:07
_hirsI have libdirectfb-0.9-22 in the sources, but wont install11:07
extraord1naryHello,please tell me how i can to install liquid???11:07
sfazruzsk,thanx11:07
_hirsand for some reason kaffeine crashes every time I close it11:08
bimberi_hirs: mplayer-k6 is available in ubuntu's multiverse repository, don't use marillat11:08
stefani wonder, java is already installe11:09
_hirsthere is another repository to get mplayer package?11:09
stefand11:09
stefanbut firefox wont find it yet11:09
stefanbut so wont konqueror11:09
_hirsbimberi: thanks11:09
bimberi_hirs: np :)11:09
bimberi!info j2re1.411:10
ubotuj2re1.4: (Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition), section multiverse/devel, is optional. Version: 1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 21982 kB, Installed size: 58892 kB11:10
bimberisfazruzs: it's available in ubuntu's multiverse repository ^^^11:10
bimberiubotu tell sfazruzs about repos11:11
kairu0hey all11:11
bimberistefan: fyi ^^^11:11
sfazruzs!repos11:12
ubotuI heard repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource11:12
aftertafplease read links when we send them to you for problems and answers.......11:12
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stefanhm11:12
berkes_hirs: kafeine sucks big time11:12
berkes_hirs: just google for it and youll find issues all over the place. :)11:13
sfazruzs<bimberi> sfazruzs: it's available in ubuntu's multiverse repository ^^^ <------where is it?adept?11:13
_hirsberkes: the UI is far better than mplayer11:13
stefanbut i cant find it in adept11:13
berkes_hirs: a small thin you cuold do is install kaffeine-xine it makes kaffeine a little bit more stable11:13
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berkes_hirs: thats because mplayer has no gui :)11:14
stefan!easysource11:14
ubotufrom memory, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:14
_hirsberkes: I did, I hate that enormous gstreamer11:14
_hirsberkes: well I mean gmplayer11:14
berkeskmplayer is a far better gui, kaffeine breaks about every KDE  HIG there is 11:14
kairu0there is kmplayer? i didnt know that11:14
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berkeskairu0: there is, but not in kubuntu11:15
_hirskmplayer: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=1000411:15
kairu0berkes, as in not in the repo?11:15
l3mwhere can i get the w32codecs for ubuntu?11:15
berkesi just cannot get it why kubuntu decided to go for kaffeine. it is known for being extremely unstable, very unfriendly etc.11:15
berkeskairu0: as in: not in the repos indeed11:15
bimberisfazruzs: once you enable multiverse it will be available in adept yes11:16
Riddellberkes: what would you prefer?11:16
bimberi!w32codecs11:16
ubotuw32codecs is, like, binary only codecs that some call evil. One possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/11:16
berkesRiddell: kmplayer. 11:16
bimberil3m: ^^^11:16
l3mmplayer-nogui is the  best anyway - why would anyone want to use a mouse to click tiny buttons when you can do everything with keys? ;)11:16
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Riddellberkes: depends on mplayer, which has legal issues11:16
l3mbimberi: thaks11:16
l3mthanks11:16
bimberil3m: np11:16
sfazruzsguys..11:16
berkesRiddell: I have used that on Mandrake w/o any hassle for ages11:16
sfazruzsconfuse right now..11:16
bimberiberkes: mplayer is non-free11:16
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sfazruzsi want to download JAVA..11:17
berkesRiddell: ah, legal issues, yea. 11:17
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Riddellberkes: mplayer is free in theory, it just has legal issues (unsure copyright, patents)11:17
l3msfazruzs: apt-get install java-package, get the sun binary, and run make-jpkg 11:17
sfazruzsthen for i386,there is 4 folders,01,02,fcs and rc1..11:17
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berkesRiddell: fair enough to choose kaffeine then. Though i am pretty sure it turns away quite some people. 11:18
berkesRiddell: how does ubuntu solve this?11:18
hussamRiddell: I hear dapper's kaffeine does not crash. can the crash fix be ported to breezy-updates?11:18
sfazruzsi type,apt-get install java-package but nothing happen..11:18
sfazruzswhat's that suppose to mean?11:18
stefanbecause its not in the repos11:18
Riddellberkes: solve which?11:18
_hirsthere is also kplayer, but the ui is horrible11:18
Riddellhussam: don't believe everything you hear11:19
bimberisfazruzs: paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin ...11:19
bimberi!pastebin11:19
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:19
stefanlook11:19
stefanits already installed11:19
berkesRiddell: legal issues wrt mpeg codecs w32codecs etc11:19
hussamRiddell: ok that's cool.11:19
Riddellberkes: we don't ship w32codecs.  mplayer is in multiverse11:19
berkesRiddell: kay11:20
kairu0firefox and gmail arent playing friendly-like 11:20
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berkesRiddell: bu does ubuntu not ship with any w32codecs then?11:20
sfazruzsbimberi, after i pasted it?11:20
Riddellberkes: no distribution does11:20
sfazruzsthen now what i have to do?11:20
bimberisfazruzs: i'll have a look :)11:21
janusheadhi. naive question. since this morning, i get an error message for my 5.10 installation when is start Adept, saying "The APT Database will be opened in read-only mode, this means you cannot install/uninstall/upgrade anything. You have to run this program as root to be able to do that."11:21
berkesRiddell: mandrake did, only when you bought it, but it did;11:21
Riddellberkes: no, it wouldn't I'm sure.  the copyrights are owned by microsoft, apple, real etc11:21
berkesRiddell: i have the cdrom here; I can show it to you.11:22
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Riddellberkes: ok11:22
hussamberkes: in that case, they probably have to pay MS , real and  apple to redistribute the codecs.11:23
sfazruzsbimberi..11:23
hussamberkes: mandrake I mean11:23
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berkeshussam: indeed. that is actually the only reason they chanrge for the CDs11:23
berkescharge. Because the patentholders do not agree on free distribution11:24
l3mbimberi: i'm too stupid. can you give me the apt line for seveas?11:24
sfazruzsbimberi,i still cant download the blackdown11:24
bimberisfazruzs: ok, you need to edit that file...11:24
berkesmedia:/hdd/Applications/RealPlayer-Codecs-9.0-2mdk.i586.rpm11:24
monadhi... another question... i saw that kubuntu synchronizes with its own nto server at boot, now it doesn't anymore. how can i fix this?11:25
monadntp, that is11:25
berkesanyway; is kmplayer in some repository too?11:25
bimberisfazruzs: uncomment line 019 and add " multiverse" to the end11:25
bimberil3m: sec :)11:26
hussamberkes: actually, MS won't let you let you distribute modified versions of their package installers, so if you have a winmediacodecs.exe package, the only way they might agree to let you distribute it is as the original .exe and not a deb or rpm11:26
bimberil3m:  deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas all11:26
berkeshussam: yea, i cannot find the codecs right here and now, but there are some dlls on the mandrake cdrom11:27
bimberisfazruzs: while you're at it, best to uncomment lines 032 and 035, and add " multiverse" at the end of 03511:27
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stefanjuha11:28
sfazruzsso i change 'universe' to multiverse?11:28
stefani got blackdown in adept11:28
stefanhttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:28
l3mbimberi: thanks11:28
bimberisfazruzs: no, leave universe and add multiverse (with a space in between)11:28
stefanuse this for generating a sources.list11:28
bimberil3m: np11:28
sfazruzsok..11:28
sfazruzsdo i need to put multiverse in line 32?11:29
bimberisfazruzs: no, just uncomment11:30
sfazruzswhat's that mean?11:30
bimberisfazruzs: remove the # at the start of the line11:31
sfazruzsin my adept,there's no '#'..11:31
sfazruzshow to uncomment?11:31
l3mbimberi: i get 403 forbidden when trying to apt-get install w32codecs11:33
hussamok folks, see ya tomorrow11:33
bimberisfazruzs: ah, if there's no # it's probably ok11:33
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bimberil3m: gah, that means Seveas hasn't fixed the permissions on his server yet :/11:33
sfazruzsok,i'm trying to update..11:34
sfazruzsthanx for helping..11:34
sfazruzsreally appreciate it..11:35
bimberisfazruzs: np :)11:36
sfazruzswat's the diff btwn runtime and SDK?11:37
l3m..manually dl'ing and installing debian-marillat w32codecs 11:37
l3marghl11:37
l3m;/11:37
bimberisdk is Software Development Kit (iirc) - ie. includes compilers etc.11:38
sfazruzsooo...11:38
aftertafl3m:  why?11:38
aftertaf!restricted11:39
uboturestricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats11:39
bimberil3m: apologies for leading you up that garden path :/11:39
stefanMaybe11:39
l3mbimberi thanks for helping man ;) 11:39
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stefanSomeone can tell me where the things I install are installed at all ?11:39
stefanin which directory11:39
l3mbimberi: luckily, the codecs don't usually change often, and when seveas works again, it should replace the old ones.. ;)11:39
bimberistefan: dpkg -L <package> will show you11:40
stefanahh11:40
stefancool11:40
stefanwait a mom11:40
bimberistefan: probably in too much detail :P11:40
bimberil3m: :)11:40
stefanif only i knew the name of the package11:40
stefano=311:41
stefanlol11:41
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stefanya11:43
stefanyay11:43
stefani got the plugin11:43
stefannow i have to link it to firefox11:43
sfazruzshow to reg in this irc?11:46
skypa/msg nickserv help11:46
skypa:)11:46
viviersfRiddell, fixed that kde su thing for me , changed sudoers file for live cd only11:46
viviersfthen i restore it on installation11:47
sfazruzsdo we need to authenticate our nickname?11:48
stefanYaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh11:48
stefanJava Running11:48
stefanyayyyyyyyyyy11:48
sfazruzshehehe..11:48
stefan;-)11:48
sfazruzsu guys play runescape?11:48
berkesbah11:48
stefanoh.. i play carnageblender11:49
Riddellviviersf: what was the problem?11:49
Riddellviviersf: what did you change?11:49
berkesany hints on how to get kmplayer installed11:49
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berkesive tried the plf repos, the marillat repos but all w/o suceess11:49
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viviersfRiddell, i just made su not ask for a password 11:50
viviersf:p11:50
viviersfwill be restored to normal after install11:50
viviersfand yes sudo keeps the password for the session11:51
Riddellviviersf: aah11:51
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stefanehm12:22
stefanhow do you create a directory ?12:22
stefanmd ?12:22
Kamping_Kaise1mkdir12:23
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stefanthx12:25
stefanhmm its not ntfs12:25
stefanwhat else could it be ?12:25
sfazruzsstefan..12:25
sfazruzsu installed java just now,am i right?12:25
stefanyes12:25
sfazruzshow do u press 'OK' or 'accept' at the 'Binary Code License Agreement'?12:26
sfazruzscan u help me on this?12:27
stefanuse enter12:27
stefanmaybe u have to clikc into the window with mousebutton12:27
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doodzyeah, get all that point and click out of your head12:27
doodznot windows anymore12:27
doodzhehe12:27
sfazruzsok thanx12:27
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sfazruzsthen how about the 'Grant the "stopThread" RuntimePermission?',what does that mean?12:28
sfazruzs<doodz> not windows anymore <-----i'm really new to linux system...:P12:30
doodzsame12:30
doodz:)12:30
stefandont grant it12:30
doodzi dont even no what to do with a .deb file12:30
doodzis it an executable ?12:30
stefandpkg -i name.deb12:31
stefanto install it12:31
stefanits a package12:31
doodzawesome :)12:31
sfazruzsok12:31
sfazruzsdone...12:31
stefan:)12:32
Kamping_Kaiserdoodz: it's an installable package for apps12:33
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doodzi messed something up12:35
doodztelling me lib files now found, i'm sure its becouse i trying to install a package from source first12:35
doodzthen i installed it from package12:35
doodzheh12:35
doodz*not12:36
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sfazruzswhat's the diff between typing su and sudo?12:37
monadhi... can anyone tell me why the synch with kubuntu's ntp server at boot doesn't work anymore?12:37
stefansudo does something as root.. su only switches to root12:38
monadsfaz: with su you really switch to root12:38
sfazruzsoh,okies..12:39
monadbut with su, the -c option also enables you to run a command12:39
monadlike su -c halt12:39
monadwhile with sudo, you don't have to know the root passwd12:40
monadso... anyone here who can tell me about the ntp server?12:40
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aftertafmonad:  you need to have an active net connection by the time it runs that service12:41
monadaftertaf: you don't say... :-P12:43
monadaftertaf: it worked fine at the first boot after installing, rebooted again today and got a "failed" message12:44
monadi can of course do it manually every time, but i liked that it did it on startup12:44
aftertafmonad:  how do you connect to the net?12:45
monadaftertaf: fixed IP, it's a university machine12:45
monadonline all the time12:45
aftertafmonad:  ok. no firewall or proxy?12:45
aftertaffixed public ip?12:46
monad#1 no12:46
monadbtw... how do i switch to verbose while booting?12:47
aftertafdunno... :/12:47
monadshucks ;-)12:48
aftertafasking in ubuntu ;)12:48
aftertafremove splash from the kernel command line.12:49
aftertafin the grub menu.lst12:49
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aftertaf3 ways:12:51
aftertaf1 edit grub (defeinitive)12:51
aftertaf212:51
monadi love 3ways12:51
aftertaf2 during boot: <alt><f1>   <alt><f8>12:51
aftertaf3 during grub: move to your menu entry, hit 'e', remove 'splash' and boot12:51
monadyou think it might help?12:51
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aftertaf3 ways was the morning........12:51
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monad;-012:52
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aftertafoooh nasty12:53
Kamping_Kaiseryeh, I'm harsh today ;)12:53
aftertaf!lart Kamping_Kaiser 12:53
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Kamping_Kaisereeek12:53
aftertafloool12:54
Kamping_Kaiserspeaking of which, i have that installed :D12:54
aftertafreally?12:54
Kamping_Kaisersolaris for x86, build 2112:54
aftertafwith george clooney?12:54
Kamping_Kaiserit's using Gnome, 2.812:54
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monadaftertaf: i downgraded to tarkowski12:56
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monadtakes longer, though12:56
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aftertafwhat the???,12:56
monadhm?12:57
Kamping_Kaiserhm. did i miss anything?12:57
monadeverything happened while you were away12:57
monadshould've seen it..12:57
monadt'was a blast12:57
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aftertafyeah.. lines and lines of it too12:58
monadnever seen anything like it12:58
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Kamping_Kaiser:'(12:58
aftertafloooooooooooool12:58
monadwhile you were kamping...12:58
Kamping_Kaiser:|12:58
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monadaaaah01:00
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monadthat felt good...01:00
Kamping_Kaiserer...01:00
monad..godic01:01
Kamping_Kaiserhttp://planetquake.ingame.de/models/camper/index.php01:02
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monadgood choice brainmelt01:11
brainmeltlol01:11
monadbtw... how do you do that, changing your name01:13
bimberimonad: /nick newnick01:13
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monadkubuntu, though, seems to be the wrong place01:22
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_hahaboyI have installed fcitx. But how to make it run when i log in? Thanks01:35
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_hahaboyAnybody can answer my question? bow~~~~01:42
KimppaHello. Does anyone know some remote control (hardware) which works on kubuntu? I'm a bit lazy, so I'd like to have a way to switch my mp3, pause my movie or whatever while lying in my bed :)01:44
tapanimgam_server makes me crazy, it uses whole ram and cpu :/01:44
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Mars_^Hi I need some help. I dont know how to install flash plugin for Opera. I dont have any idea about it. Can someone help me?01:45
_hahaboyCan you read chinese?01:47
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nxv_hi01:49
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Mars_^I can read Japanese :)01:52
nxv_can i transfere an debian system into an ubuntu system by just changing the source list? is it secure? i want to do it on a vserver01:53
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andriusburokashello, I've just installed kubuntu on top of ubuntu, how can I change default file manager from Nautilus to konqueror?01:58
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_hahaboyi once read an article written on chinese about how to install flashplayer on opera02:02
_hahaboyit's said ubuntu is based on debian unstable02:03
marwani have problem with sound can any one help me02:03
_hahaboyi dont know whether debian deb can be used02:04
_hahaboytry setup on conxole02:04
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marwanok thanks02:05
jsubl2!tell jsubl2 about sources02:07
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kkathmanin general you cant use debian binaries from their repos, but you can use sources or debs.02:08
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djk_kkathman: familiar with usb-gamepads?02:17
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kkathmandjk_: not at all, sorry02:20
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wahyuffffffffffff02:24
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wahyuhhhhhhhhhhhh02:28
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tvoOT: anyone knows whether there are any other decimal seperators other than `.' and `, ' in use on earth?03:04
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dipnliktvo: - ?03:07
tapanimis there anything to do for gam_server???03:07
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tapanimit takes 60% of my cpu03:07
tapanimthis is a big problem...03:08
K_Kaiserkill it03:08
naliothtapanim: upgrade03:08
tvodipnlik: you mean 1-2 is in use for 1.2 somewhere ?03:08
tvothen , how do they write 1-2=-1 ?03:09
tapanimnalioth: there is nothing to upgrade03:10
naliothtapanim: what version of kubuntu are you using?03:10
dipnliktvo: don't think - can be used as a decimal separator everytime, but MAYBE this can be useful in one or two cases. don't know03:11
tapanimnalioth: i don't know :) must be stupid today...03:12
naliothtapanim: open  a konsole and type "cat /etc/issue"03:13
tapanimUbuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger"03:13
naliothtapanim: gam_server should only run for short amounts of time03:14
tapanimbut why it's running all the time?03:15
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naliothtapanim: kill it03:15
tapanimcan't kill, it's start the new one...03:15
tapanimand won't help03:15
naliothclose nautilus03:15
naliothor konqueror03:16
tapanimthose are not running03:17
naliothweird. ask in #ubuntu 03:19
kkathmanhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8223203:19
kkathmanthat fixes it03:19
kkathmanits an older version...memory leak03:19
kkathmansorry to interrupt03:19
tapanimkkathman: ment for me?03:20
kkathmanyes03:20
tapanimthanks03:20
naliothkkathman: i wish you would interupt more often03:20
kkathmanactually I didnt know what gam_server was so I was doing an Uncle Google..and found that03:20
tapanimi tried but i didn't find...03:21
kkathmanI just typed in gam_server breezy and there it was :)03:21
naliothuncle google to the rescue03:21
kkathmanI usually dont interrupt because that confuses people..but it looked as if nalioth was finished03:21
naliothkkathman: you may interupt me any time you wish03:22
kkathmanuhmm...prolly not :)  Im lucky that certain people dont appear to be here right now03:22
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kkathmanhey!!03:24
K_Kaiser:)03:26
K_Kaiserbugger eh03:26
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K_Kaiserta mate :D03:29
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K_Kaiserit ejected my floppy :O03:30
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AyidenHello03:34
AyidenI have a celeron cpu but since im running the base kubuntu kernel I am using the 386 kernel ... should I get the 386 mplayer or the 586 designed for my processesor type03:35
Ayiden!mplayer03:35
uboturumour has it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106103:35
naliothAyiden: what celeron?03:35
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Ayidenceleron copper... its 68603:36
K_KaiserAyiden: how fast?03:36
Ayiden2.67ghz03:36
K_Kaiserget the 5 or 686 packages03:36
Ayideneven tho the kernel is 386 okay thanks03:37
naliothK_Kaiser: the 686 pkg is a 'placeholder' for 58603:37
Ayidenso if I install the 686 the 586 will install?03:37
K_Kaiseryes, IIRC03:38
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tvodipnlik: ok, thanks. I won't use it then: a calculator which uses - for something else then minus/negative is too complex :)03:40
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dipnliktvo: haha :) well, next time ask easier questions :P03:42
miguelhello03:42
miguelhola03:42
fenixhola03:43
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tapanimkkathman: thanks a lot, this works fine now :)03:46
Steleis it safe to install the 32-bit version on an Athlon64 FX system?03:46
K_Kaisersure.03:46
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Stelejust checking03:46
kkathmantapanim: glad :)03:46
simonsbrhello someone can help me to configure adsl?03:46
kkathmanyay I got one right :)03:46
naliothStele: it's actually better to use the i386 install on a amd64 box03:47
Stelecool03:47
Steleim a developer and i dont want to go down the "trying to make 32 bit apps on a 64-bit system" road03:47
Steleit's actually an Athlon64 X2 - dual core03:48
Stelewill I need a kernel patch to support both cores?03:48
qbitdoes the nvidia driver and/or module work on AMD 64 ?03:48
Stelei think they do have a 64 bit driver03:48
K_KaiserStele: not sure, you would want an smp kernel at least03:48
qbittnx03:48
Stelehopefully the installer will notice both cores03:49
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K_KaiserStele: the install cd only has a standard 386 kernel, not smp03:49
Steleahh03:50
Steleis this something i can, er, "get" from a command line?03:50
K_Kaisernot sure about the dvds.03:50
Stele(not a kernel builder expert)03:50
K_Kaiseryeh.03:50
Stelethat will do03:50
Stele:)03:50
K_Kaisersudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12-9-386-smp03:50
SteleI wonder which core gets used with a single core kernel?03:50
Stele:)03:50
K_Kaiser:P core 0 ;)03:51
Steleheh :03:51
Stelewhat a nerdy question, and an equally nerdy answer03:51
K_Kaiserheh03:51
Stelei see we are all well adjusted today03:51
K_Kaiseryeh, i might use that to scare people i know actualy03:51
naliothStele: use the 686-smp kernel03:53
SteleBTW - if kubuntu is just ubuntu + KDE, why are there two sep channels?03:53
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Steleah 686 good idea03:53
naliothStele: there are actually 3 channels 03:53
nalioth#xubuntu exists03:53
K_Kaiserwell, lots in fact03:53
Stelejust curious - seems like overkill03:53
K_Kaiser686 on an AMD?03:53
SteleAMD supports 686 instructions, no?03:53
K_KaiserStele: thers about 6 (chans)(i know of03:53
naliothK_Kaiser: yes it works fine03:54
K_Kaiseroh, ok. 03:54
Stelethis is my first AMD 64 system03:54
Steleand dual core to boot03:54
naliothStele: how much ram ya got?03:54
Stelei am switching from RH9 on an older machine to this one03:54
Stele640K03:54
Stele:-)03:54
Stele2GB03:54
K_Kaiserlol03:54
K_Kaiser640k03:54
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naliothStele: then use the 686-smp kernel after you install03:55
Steleok03:55
Stelei might be back :)03:55
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Stelefirst thing first - need to figure out if the NV 7800GT in the new box is faster than my Quadro 3600FX03:55
Steleif it's faster it's going in my game machine :)03:56
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penguinzdrwhere is KDE in kubuntu?04:24
naliothpenguinzdr: that question makes no sense04:24
penguinzdri dont speak very good english04:25
naliothpenguinzdr: if you log into kubuntu you are using KDE04:25
penguinzdrnalioth: i mean where, in /opt/, in /usr/ ....04:25
K_Kaiserpersonal settings in ~/.KDE04:26
K_Kaiserrest of it's spread about (afaik)04:26
naliothpenguinzdr: kde exists everywhere, as K_Kaiser points out04:26
penguinzdri want to compile a style for KDE (knifty), and i want to know where to point the prefix04:27
naliothpenguinzdr: a theme ?04:28
penguinzdryes04:29
Riddellpenguinzdr: --prefix=/usr04:30
Riddellkde-config --prefix04:31
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penguinzdr10x04:31
penguinzdrchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!04:32
penguinzdr!??04:32
ubotupenguinzdr: Are you smoking crack?04:32
penguinzdrubotu: no04:33
ubotuI don't know, penguinzdr04:33
nalioth!xincludes04:35
ubotu[xincludes]  for X dev libs, install xlibs-dev, xlibs-static-dev and x-window-system-dev04:35
naliothpenguinzdr: read about xincludes04:35
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Ayidenhmm this is odd. I just installed frozen-bubble and it says in a terminal "Warning: can't initialize sound (reason: No available audio device)."05:33
Ayidenall my sound work tho.. and I have the high quality frozen-buble sound installed05:33
AyidenI can play sound in amarok and all my system sounds work05:34
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Ayiden!frozen buble05:37
ubotuAyiden: Are you smoking crack?05:37
chaoticgeekfrozen bubble is funn05:37
chaoticgeekfun*05:37
Ayiden!frozen-bubble05:38
ubotuAyiden: I haven't a clue05:38
chaoticgeekI dont think he knows that05:38
chaoticgeek!help05:38
kinfoAvailable commands: !help, !uptime, !netuse, ??, !!, !cs, !whoset, !learn, !relearn, !forget, !topten, !status05:38
chaoticgeek!learn05:38
ubotuchaoticgeek: Did you get hit by a windmill?05:38
Ayidenchaoticgeek: yes .. I just wish I new why the sound wasnt working.. does it really on mplayer?05:38
kinfoi don't understand.05:38
Ayidenyeah05:38
chaoticgeekwhat?I dont follow you Ayiden 05:39
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Ayidenlol05:39
Ayidenwhats up ubotu05:40
Ayidenubotu: whats going on?05:40
ubotuAyiden: Did you get hit by a windmill?05:40
chaoticgeekAyiden: do you know what ubotu is?05:40
Ayidenubotu: hi05:40
ubotuhola05:40
dipnlikAyiden: ubotu is a bot :P05:40
chaoticgeeklol05:40
Ayidenyes05:40
Ayidena bot05:40
chaoticgeeklol05:41
chaoticgeekok05:41
AyidenI saw someone attempt to talk to him .. he can talk back05:41
Ayidento some things anyway05:41
Stelewhat is "breezy"?05:41
naliothsound has always been problematic05:41
naliothStele: a name of an ubuntu version05:41
Steleoh05:42
Ayidenkubuntu 5.1005:42
naliothbreezy badger 05:42
Steleah05:42
Stelei think that is what i got05:42
Ayidenis breezy05:42
Ayidennalioth: I dont know why frozen buble says it cant find a sound device tho05:42
Ayidenand ceega said I didnt have oss05:42
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Ayidenwhen i use it all the time (music sounds better in oss then alsa for me)05:43
Stelethe 5.1 iso is what i got - so I guess it's breezy here05:43
Stelebrrrrr05:43
chaoticgeekI want frozen bubble05:43
Stelein fact it is - 14`F, 10mph winds05:43
chaoticgeekspeaking of frozen, its cold in my room05:44
Steleit was, but i turned on another computer05:44
Stele:)05:44
chaoticgeekthe stupid vent was pumping out cold air05:44
Stele8 computers tend to make the office toasty05:44
chaoticgeekyay I'm gettin frozen bubble05:44
Ayidenapt-get install frozen-bubble frozen-bubble-data fb-music-high or fb-music-low05:44
chaoticgeekyes that would05:44
Stelewhat is frozen bubble?05:44
chaoticgeeka game05:44
Steleah05:44
AyidenStele: apt-get and see.. its a strangly addicting game05:45
chaoticgeekpretty fun, make groups of 3 or more lil "bubbles" same color05:45
Steleheh - ive been playing "The Movies"05:45
chaoticgeekmake them go poof and try and get all of them gone05:45
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chaoticgeekreally fun game though05:45
chaoticgeekalmost done05:45
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chaoticgeekyay frozen bubble goodness05:46
_roothello... can someone please tell me, why i get msgs like error: stdio.h: No such file or directory when i compile a C program?05:47
_rootis this a kubuntu specialty?05:47
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Chousukemonad: why are you root?05:47
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Chousuke./05:47
monaddid i forget to install something? those files should be there naturally...?05:48
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Steleer...05:48
Stelewhat are you using to compile?05:48
Stelegcc?05:48
monadstele: yes05:48
monad4.005:48
Stelehuh - always "just worked" for me05:48
naliothmonad: did you install "build-essential" ?05:48
monadnow i did05:49
Stelelol05:49
monadsorry... kubuntu newbie05:49
Steleisnt kubuntu supposed to be a "programmer's distro"?05:50
Chousukeno?05:50
monadnot my machine, just installed today on a university box05:50
Stelewell ok then05:50
chaoticgeekkubuntu is supposed to be a desktop distro05:50
monadok... the files are found now, but i still get sh**loads of error msgs05:50
chaoticgeekor what ever you really wanna make it05:50
chaoticgeekI installed everything for making my own programs that I will need05:51
Stelehow is the optimizer in gcc 4?05:52
monadstill some files like X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory05:52
Steleim thinking of getting a license for the Intel compiler05:52
Stelemonad - you need the X11 dev environment05:52
Stelethat is usually separate05:52
Chousukeie. xlibs-dev :p05:53
Steleyeah that too05:53
monadlibx11-dev?05:53
Chousukeif you want to code using a library, you need -dev packages.05:53
Chousukemonad: if it exists.05:53
Chousukepackages.ubuntu.com should be helpful05:54
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chaoticgeekI need to have a project for next semester05:54
chaoticgeekthis semester I'm learning java, and I should have quite a grasp on it, so next semester I want to do a project to keep me up to date with it05:55
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monadthanks... runnning05:56
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naliothdammit he's too quick05:56
ChousukeWhat useful could you code with java. hm.05:56
naliothif monad comes back, he needs this !xincludes05:56
ChousukeNot another torrent client ;P05:56
chaoticgeekno05:57
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chaoticgeekI like azureus or whatever too much to try and do something like that05:57
Fillado!refresh rate05:57
ubotuNo idea, Fillado05:57
nalioth!fixres05:57
ubotumethinks fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:57
Filladothanks :)05:58
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chaoticgeekhehe I like the shout one06:01
chaoticgeek!shout06:01
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, shout is WE CAN READ LOWER CASE!06:01
chaoticgeekthat is funny06:01
dipnlikLOL06:02
chaoticgeeknow I know how to install a deb package06:02
chaoticgeek34 pages worth of responses for ubotu06:03
chaoticgeek!<action> gives $nick a tall glass of Sri Lankan coconut arrack06:04
ubotuchaoticgeek: What?06:04
chaoticgeeknope06:04
chaoticgeek!arrack06:04
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chaoticgeek!start a desktop war06:05
ubotufvwm is much better than gnome!06:05
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chaoticgeeklmao06:05
chaoticgeek!start a desktop war06:05
ubotue17 is much better than xfce!06:05
chaoticgeekthat is funny06:06
nalioth!botabuse06:07
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.06:07
chaoticgeekok06:07
naliothchaoticgeek: we try not to flood the channel with meaningless junk06:07
dipnlikchaoticgeek: it should have editor and browser wars too, and it probably accepts personal messagers too06:08
chaoticgeekthere are06:08
chaoticgeekhas anyone seen what happens when you type apt-get moo06:09
naliothyes we have06:09
chaoticgeekits very different06:09
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dipnlikthat's why I use apt-get and not aptitude :P06:10
chaoticgeeklol there is start a partitioning war too06:11
nalioththere is much to be cleaned from his db06:11
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chaoticgeekI'd say 34 pages worth of commands06:12
naliothhalf of them should be purged06:13
chaoticgeekand I went through a page that was just random stuff, like the apt-get moo06:13
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chaoticgeekUbuntu all day keeps Dr. Norton away.06:15
chaoticgeeknalioth: your an op06:18
chaoticgeekI just found that out06:18
naliothchaoticgeek: why is being an op such a source of interest?06:18
naliothchaoticgeek: /msg chanserv access #kubuntu list06:19
chaoticgeekIt's not, I just seen it in the list of commands for ubotu06:19
naliothchaoticgeek: nothing in ubotu is 'secret', it's all publicly available info06:19
chaoticgeekI know, and I'm just looking through there06:19
chaoticgeekI just found out how to mount iso files06:23
chaoticgeekthats cool06:24
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chxhow could I add a pubkey to apt so that it does not warn me ?06:30
naliothchx: "apt-key add"06:31
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liqshi there. any idea why kubuntu would freeze after a random amount of time, leaving only the mouse able to move and nothing else?06:35
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AyidenOn many Music CD's that you buy there are extra things on them besides music. When you pop a cd like this in a windows computer a  screen might come up playing music or perhaps have the artists site come up ... and maybe even have some embedded video. Is there a way to play these on linux?06:49
naliothAyiden: you mean the 'rootkits' ? lol06:51
Ayidennalioth: what are the "rootkits"06:52
Ayidenhope Its not that stupid of a question *(lol)06:52
Ayiden!rootkits06:52
Ayidenha ha06:52
ubotuNot a clue, Ayiden06:52
naliothAyiden: do you live in a cave?06:52
naliothsony has gotten itself into really really bad trouble06:53
Ayidennalioth: no i live in a dungeon...06:53
naliothsony has released software that takes over your windows box and allows ANYONE to infiltrate and do whatever they want to it06:53
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Ayidennalioth: seriouslt?06:53
Ayidenseriously*06:53
naliothAyiden: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit06:54
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naliothsony is facing legal actions from many world governments06:54
Ayidenoh,crap06:55
Ayidenhope this doesnt effect the ps3... *gulp*06:55
Ayidenthe price or quality i mean06:56
naliothAyiden: join #kubuntu-offtopic for more discussion of sony's Very Bad Thing06:56
Ayidenalright06:57
Ayiden.. for now to im checking to see if I can get the stuff on a few music music cd's to work.. I think i had 1 up before on linspire but I forgett what I did or if I did anything at all...06:57
Ayiden*(lol)06:57
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nalioth!info wine06:58
ubotuwine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14131 kB, Installed size: 55484 kB06:58
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chxnalioth: and where can I download the keyfile for say, http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/snapshot/bzr ?07:12
naliothchx: you'll need to ask jbailey or look around ~jbailey07:13
naliothmost devs have their key listed07:13
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Daywalkeruna pregunta, como hago hdparm -d1 /dev/hdx inicie automaticamente07:14
naliothDaywalker: por favor, habla ingles aqui, habla espanol en #kubuntu-es o #ubuntu-es07:15
Daywalkerah ok, gracias07:16
Daywalkerdisculpa07:16
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Daywalkerquestion, how to put hdparm -d1 /dev/hdx load everytime i run kubuntu?07:19
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chxnalioth: thanks, I asked and it was in the snapshot directory :)07:20
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beefsprocketDaywalker: edit /etc/hdparm.conf07:24
Daywalkerbeefsprocket, then i put hdparm -d1 /dev/hdx?07:24
Daywalkerat end on the line07:25
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[Surge] Does anyone know why glxgears doesn't display the framerate anymore in Breezy ?07:32
Kyaneoshi07:33
Kyaneosi have a problem07:33
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Kyaneoswhen i boot my computer, it leaves me in the first tty, but i wanto to be in the seventh with the X07:34
beefsprocketI think the file has comments for the relevant section, you may be able tojust uncomment a line or two07:34
Kyaneosbeefsprocket: is it for me?07:36
beefsprocketsurge: it isn't a benchmark -- you can google the option for framerate07:39
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beefsprocketKyaneos: try alt+f707:39
[Surge] beefsprocket: Sure but the framerate output is useful for debugging07:40
[Surge] Now I have to search for the frame rate option because some brain dead person disabled it to stop people from using is as a comparison?07:41
beefsprocketindeed07:42
beefsprocketglxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark 07:43
Kyaneosbeefsprocket: yes, i can change to the tty 707:43
beefsprocketok, well, try logging in with your user and running sudo kdm07:43
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[Surge] Oh so that's why I couldn't find the option07:44
Kyaneosbeefsprocket: but kdm is running yet07:44
margityes07:44
beefsprocketit is? you'll have to kill it and restartit then07:44
Kyaneoswhy?07:44
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beefsprocketno clue, but it works for me07:45
beefsprocketsory I can't help more07:45
beefsprockettried dist-upgrading?07:45
Kyaneosyes07:45
Kyaneosok07:45
Kyaneosi will try it now07:45
beefsprocketi also upgraded to 3.5rc1 as well07:45
beefsprocket(I had that problem as well)07:45
bl3ssinghow can I see my hard disk partitions which I'm using them on Windows SO? pls?>07:45
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bl3ssingand how can I access those partitions?07:46
Kyaneosbeefsprocket: then i kill kdm and restart with sudo kdm?07:46
libbenhow do i change my amarok icon? so its a new one globally for it?07:46
beefsprocketyep07:46
beefsprocket... guess it worked?07:47
bl3ssingI'm a new linux user and that's why I'm asking ...07:47
bl3ssinghow can I see my hard disk partitions which I'm using them on Windows SO? pls?>07:47
bl3ssingand how can I access those partitions?07:47
[Surge] bl3ssing: You write Mirco$oft a nice letter and tell them you would like them to support other non-MS partitions or you use a 3rd party tool07:47
beefsprocketthere are some drivers that you can use -- not sure if they are free though07:48
l3mbl3ssing: there's a program called explore2fs for ext2 partitions07:48
beefsprocketcheck sourceforge07:48
l3mbl3ssing: and theres one for reiser too, but don't know what it's called07:48
beefsprocketthere is a reiserfs module as well07:48
beefsprocket;)07:48
bl3ssing:-)07:48
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bl3ssingare you speaking to me in languages ... guys? cause I don't understand what you mean by .. ext2 ...?07:49
bl3ssing;))07:49
bl3ssing=)07:49
bl3ssing=))07:49
beefsprocketrun mount in a terminal07:49
beefsprocketsee which filesystem you are running07:49
bl3ssingok ...07:49
bl3ssingand how can I run mount? only by typing mount ...?07:50
bl3ssing;)07:50
dipnlikbl3ssing: what do you want to see, linux partitions on Windows or Windows partitions on linux?07:50
beefsprocketyep07:50
bl3ssingwindows partitions on linux07:50
bl3ssingdipnlik ...07:50
l3mbl3ssing: ah. that's easy07:51
l3mbl3ssing: just sudo and then type fdisk -l - this will show you all partitons07:51
l3mbl3ssing: then you can mount them using the "mount" command07:51
l3mbl3ssing: man mount if you want to know how to do that07:52
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dipnlikbl3ssing: pretty sure you can find a tutorial on this on ubuntu wiki07:53
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dipnlikubotu: tell bl3ssing about windowsdrives07:53
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bl3ssingthanks guys for helping me...07:54
Kyaneosbeefsprocket: it was the solution07:54
Kyaneosbeefsprocket: i think it is because i am using rcconfig07:54
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[Surge] Ok I've found that since upgrading to Breezy all the DMA flags are off for my disks07:55
[Surge] Is there a tool for configuring this or must I just hdparm them?07:55
bl3ssingI've found after I've typed fdisk -l command this text: /dev/hda1               1        2051    15505528+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)07:55
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bl3ssingwhat kind of command shall I use now to mount this partition?07:55
[Surge] mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows07:56
[Surge] Create /mnt/windows directory first07:56
[Surge] And if you want it to happen at boot time add an entry into /etc/fstab07:57
bl3ssingan entry like ...?07:57
bl3ssing;)07:57
[Surge] And entry like in "man fstab"  ;)07:57
[Surge] Example :   /dev/hdd1       /mnt/windows    vfat    rw,uid=1000,gid=109     0       007:57
l3mbl3ssing: you're kinda lazy, right? it's written on a 1000 webpages exactly how to mount a win partition .. 07:58
l3m;)07:58
bl3ssingand why wouldn't you help me ... l3m instead of speaking ...? :-)07:58
[Surge] 1000 is a conservative figure l3m 07:58
bl3ssingjust kidding l3m07:59
bl3ssingok than07:59
bl3ssingI'll try to find on the web07:59
bl3ssingyou're right Surge07:59
bl3ssingit is not that I'm lazy07:59
bl3ssingit is only that I want to know just some basically informations about kubuntu, than ... I'll do my work ...07:59
l3mbl3ssing: ^^ look above, i helped you.. but you should learn to find out this stuff by reading the available documents, otherwise you'll never learn it for yourself ;)07:59
naliothbl3ssing: you'll find much more help if you help yourself first08:00
bl3ssingthanks l3m for your advices08:00
l3mbl3ssing: i don't mind helping newbies, but the best help is learning how to find out stuff quickly .. and irc is waaay slower than just asking google 08:00
l3mhehe08:00
[Surge] Ok back to my question. Is there an "ubuntu" way to enable DMA on boot or must I hack my own boot scripts to turn it on?08:00
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l3m[Surge] : hdparm 08:00
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l3m[Surge] : apt-get install hdparm; vi /etc/hdparm.conf08:01
[Surge] Yes but isn't there a system in place to do it?08:01
[Surge] Ah ... hdparm.conf - why didn't I think of that?!  :D08:01
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libbenhow do i change my amarok icon? so its a new one globally for it?08:02
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l3mlibben /usr/share/icons/[youriconpack] /[size] /apps/amarok.png 08:03
l3mfor png icons08:04
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bl3ssinghow can I read fstab file ... what command shall I use?08:11
l3msudo nano /etc/fstab08:11
l3mfor changing it08:11
l3mbl3ssing: but be sure to make a backup first08:11
l3mif you break fstab, you break your system08:12
l3m..might...08:12
l3mbreak08:12
pv_btw, an easier way might be to use the Disks tool that is in the System menu. (but I don't know for sure as I haven't used it myself)08:12
[Surge] Yeah but you'll only break it once08:12
l3mbl3ssing: yes, forget everything i say and follow pv_'s advice08:13
bl3ssingreally?08:14
l3mmy thinking is still too debianised ;)08:14
l3myes08:14
bl3ssingwow ... that's pretty dangerously08:14
bl3ssing;)08:14
bl3ssingbut I like taking riskes ... so ... it is ok.08:14
bl3ssingif I won't be here anymore, than just know that I'm having problems ... with my Kubuntu So08:14
bl3ssinghehhehe08:14
l3msystem settings->disk tools like much more userfriendly than fstab in nano 08:14
l3mhrhr08:14
pv_timtowtdi08:15
[Surge] You can't mess it up unless you delete the lines for your Linux partitions08:15
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florghi, i's like to use the apache2 webserver of ubuntu. how can i grant access to my server? when i go to my computer's address i get an 'access denied' error08:16
Riddellflorg: look in error.log to see what the problem is08:18
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claudiuhello guys08:20
jjessehello claudiu 08:20
claudiudo you know is it possible to convert debian debs to ubuntu debs ?08:21
claudiubecause i keep finding cool stuff everywhere packaged for debian and it wouldn't install on ubuntu08:21
l3mlets say it's not advisable unless you really know what you want to do08:22
l3mclaudiu what debian package do you want to convert?08:22
claudiul3m: can i paste the url here ?08:22
l3msure08:23
claudiuhttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=30603&vote=good&tan=5428143108:23
claudiuthis one is available as a deb but it wont get installed on my ubuntu08:23
l3mhmm i would download the source and compile it08:25
l3m./configure; make; sudo make install 08:25
claudiul3m i already have 120.000 files on my computer, and i dont want more. remember windows95 with 1500 files ?08:27
bl3ssinglol claudiu08:27
bl3ssinghahahha08:27
claudiubl3ssing: this is a goddam desktop08:27
bl3ssingisn't  your linux so allready blocked / crashed cause of those 120.000 files?08:27
bl3ssinglol08:27
claudiubl3ssing: count your files, baby08:27
l3mclaudiu: so? 08:28
l3mclaudiu: i don't see your point?08:28
claudiuit didnt block because it is a linux but i want to keep it tight, if you know what i mean08:28
bl3ssingneither do i, claudiu! am I a baby? do you think so?08:28
l3mclaudiu: the only difference is that you'll install self-compiled binaries instead of precompiled ones08:28
bl3ssingI know claudiu08:29
claudiubl3ssing: its a figure of speech08:29
bl3ssingl3m ... thanks for helping me08:29
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claudiul3m: i am coming from gentoo, dont want any more compile08:29
bl3ssingI'm allready seeing some of my files of windows ... [did I say windows again? WinXp will flow outside through my windows ... SOON!] 08:29
bl3ssinghow can I find more channels for chatting ... ?08:30
claudiubl3ssing: i left dual boot a year ago for gentoo 1.408:30
l3mclaudiu: hehe well then you'll probably have to hack the header of the deb package to suit kubuntu08:30
l3mbl3ssing: np ;)08:30
pv_or rebuild it from source08:30
pv_even if you don't want to ;)08:31
l3mpv_: he said he doesn't want to compile08:31
l3m;/08:31
claudiuguys ill try to alien it twice to see what happens08:31
pv_too bad08:31
claudiu:)))08:31
l3mmaking a deb package is so easy using debhelper08:31
pv_actually cdbs is even easier08:32
claudiuhmm l3m here you come, thats the kind of answer i was looking08:32
pv_debian/rules = 4 lines, for most autoconfed packages08:32
florgRiddell: thx, that helped :)08:32
atlashi i have a question about ubuntu ;)08:33
atlas0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  661FX/M 661FX/M661MX/741/M741/760/M760 PCI/AGP08:33
atlasits my graphic08:33
atlasi want to hmm lets say play chromium08:33
atlasi cannot it gos but wery slow08:33
atlasany solutions ??08:33
atlas:)08:33
pv_probably none, afaik there is little support for 3D acceleration on SiS cards (c.f. http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/SiS)08:35
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pv_but that page may be outdated, it's been a year since it was last updated08:37
l3mclaudiu: hehe. i thought you didn't want to compile ;) .. 08:37
l3mjust kidding08:37
claudiuis there any video editor, i want to fix some home videos 08:37
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l3mclaudiu: kino08:38
pv_claudiu, apt-cache search video editor08:38
claudiul3m: i would like more time to learn more stuff, that's why i am avoiding compiling08:38
icewtclaudiu: cinelerra08:38
l3mnever used it though08:38
claudiuthanks pv_ icewt l3m 08:38
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Ayidenokay, well im trying to install mplayer and when I attempt to I get an error messege that says libdirectfb-0.9-20 is uninstallable.. I checked on libdirectfb and it seems the latest version is above libdirectfb-0.9-20 so can I not install mplayer? Will installing the latest version of libdirectfb help? or should I look for the older package?08:38
claudiuwell cinelerra isnt available on ubuntnu08:39
naliothAyiden: i smell unofficial package use involved. have you used unofficial pkgs or repos?08:39
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Ayidenonly the mplayer repository08:39
icewtclaudiu: no, but you can find it packaged for ubuntu elsewhere08:40
l3mAyiden: but mplayer is in breezy08:40
l3mclaudiu: kino is08:40
Ayidenit doesnt show up in adept?08:40
claudiuit would be nice if there was a deb factory or something like that, where you could propose the cool stuff08:40
Ayidenmplayer isnt there08:40
l3mit's (urgs) gtk though08:40
claudiuok l3m 08:40
naliothAyiden: which mplayer repository?08:40
claudiul3m: hmmm08:40
icewtclaudiu: not sure if there's more recent version somewhere, but there's cinelerra for breezy http://socrates.if.usp.br/~liquid/pacotes/08:41
regeyaoh gtk won't hurt you08:41
nalioth!info mplayer-58608:41
ubotumplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB08:41
Ayidenftp.nerim.net08:41
naliothAyiden: it's in multiverse08:41
claudiuicewt: thats a cool site ive been there too08:41
mornfallgraphics huh? wtf08:41
naliothAyiden: stay away from non ubuntu repos, you will break your box08:41
claudiuthanks icewt 08:41
claudiu!info cinelerra08:41
Ayidenalright what repository should I use?08:41
regeyalinux: where you can't safely install 3rd-party apps unless your distro packages them08:42
naliothAyiden: read what ubotu said....'multiverse'08:42
icewtclaudiu: not sure what it's exactly you're looking for, but if you want something like adobe premiere, cinelerra is the choise08:42
AyidenI have already installed somthing from nerim... im glad it hasnt harmed anything... acrobat08:42
naliothAyiden: comment that line out please, or you will certainly have trouble08:43
claudiul3m: do you have an debian background because i would like you to answer a question for me08:43
l3mclaudiu: yes08:43
l3mclaudiu: what do you want to know?08:43
claudiul3m: i found many deb packages on kde-look.org, but many of them gave the same error when trying to install, something like...08:44
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pv_Ayiden, generally apt (if correctly used) takes care of not messing anything up. But acroread is also in multiverse08:44
l3mAyiden: anyway, kpdf > acroread08:45
l3m;)08:45
pv_l3m, not for all pdf files.08:45
l3mnot? 08:45
l3mhmm dunno, never had any problem 08:45
l3mheh08:45
pv_for some ( = scanned documents) kpdf is too slow to use08:45
pv_which is a bit of show stopper bug for me, since I would need those displayed very fast :(08:46
pv_or fast enough08:46
claudiuhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/43342908:46
claudiul3m: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/43342908:46
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l3mclaudiu: breezy uses kdelibs4c2 and libqt3-mt instead08:47
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l3mclaudiu: the c2 and c102 have to do with c++ ABI transition of G++ 08:48
l3mclaudiu: ugly things, but what can you do. anyway, you could extract the .deb, change the header, and recreate it08:48
l3merr forget that08:48
l3mobviously it won't run08:48
pv_won't work :)08:48
l3mexactly because of the transition i was talking about08:48
claudiul3m: cool, how can i do that08:49
l3mnevermind08:49
l3mi'm tired already08:49
claudiul3m: okay, is it about the gcc4.0 thing ?08:49
bl3ssing08:49
bl3ssingkjl08:49
bl3ssing jjkl08:49
l3mwell 3.4 and 4.008:50
l3myes08:50
claudiul3m: i imagined this08:50
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claudiul3m: is there some place where people can submit proposals for making debs08:51
claudiuor something like that for ubuntu08:51
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Ayide1ubotu: !multiverse08:51
ubotuAyide1: I give up, what is it?08:51
l3mclaudiu: hmm i'm only on kubuntu for 3 days so i don't know ;)08:52
Ayide1I enabled the mulitverse repositories but all I get is errors on apt-get update08:52
l3mclaudiu: probably... 08:52
l3mhehe08:52
nalioth!repos08:53
ubotusomebody said repos was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource08:53
naliothAyiden: ^^^^^08:53
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Ayide1YAY08:54
claudiul3m: I say if someone wants sausages, it doesnt have to cut the pig and stuff them himself08:54
l3mhehe08:55
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blackvdhave a prob with my res on my login screen its set too high,how can I change it?08:55
Ayide1nalioth: Thanks08:55
l3mclaudiu: you learned something from being a gentooer, i guess, namely, gentoo is a waste of time  ;)08:56
claudiublackvd: CTRL+ALT+F1 drops you in the shell08:56
blackvdright, i can login its just that the screen is set at something beyond 102408:57
claudiul3m: gentoo is a beatifull thing, but i wanted more time for me to learn things08:57
blackvdso i have to scroll around on it08:57
l3mclaudiu: you know unroll-loops.org? ;)08:57
l3mfunroll-loops.org08:57
claudiul3m: nope, but i can guess, ;))08:58
l3mclaudiu: well i don't think you learn a lot from gentoo except waiting for compiles to end08:58
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l3mclaudiu: i learned most about linux basics and stuff from debian ... but now that i know, i just want a working sleep/hibernate, nice gui config and the likes from kubu ;)08:59
blackvdno way to set it to 1024X768?08:59
bl3ssingwhere can I find corel linux ... for trial only?08:59
l3mbl3ssing: corel linux is long dead08:59
l3mbl3ssing: and why anyone would want to install corel linux, i cannot imagine08:59
claudiul3m: it would be cool if there were two big linux producers DEB and RPM and the rest of the distros09:00
claudiuthen there would be enough money to support developing09:01
claudiubl3ssing: corel linux is a 1998 thing09:01
l3mclaudiu: i think you apply flawed logic. 09:02
l3mclaudiu: 98% of the software on a linux system was not developed because someone payed for it09:03
l3mclaudiu: and it's nice that everyone can make a distro as he likes. gives you freedom to choose. 09:03
l3mimho09:03
claudiul3m: dont forget that big communities mean great testing and developing platforms, so..09:04
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l3mclaudiu: well if you want a good *nix with a single big community, buy a powerbook ;)09:05
l3mok, gotta go. evening everyone ;)09:07
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Ayide1grrr ... why dont the multiverse repositories work..09:07
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Ayide1I add them and I get an error.. hmm are these the right ones... 1 sec09:07
Ayide1        deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe multiverse  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates universe multiverse  09:08
Ayide1are those right?09:09
Ayide1ubotu: !uboto09:09
ubotuAyide1: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about09:09
Ayide1ha09:09
Ayide1doesnt know who HE is09:09
Ayide1anyway09:09
Ayide1are those the right repositories09:09
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naliothAyide1: if you "ubotu ubotu" you'll get an answer09:10
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naliothAyide1: either !trigger or ubotu trigger09:11
naliothAyide1: ubotu !trigger does not work09:11
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bl3ssingwow ... I didn't know about that corel linux is an older version09:13
bl3ssingI would like to use a good program in linux for multimedia/graphics things.09:13
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bl3ssingwhich one is the best ... cause in windows, I know coreldraw 12/adobe photoshoc cs2 are the best09:13
bl3ssingbut in linux?09:13
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naliothbl3ssing: enable universe and multiverse repos and search using adept for whatever strikes your whim09:15
bl3ssingadept? I'm a new user in linux ... and I don't know what this is ... 09:16
bl3ssing:-(09:16
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_snakeHey guys09:18
bl3ssingwhat's the universe and multiverse repos?09:18
bl3ssing:-(09:18
_snakeMore places to get packets from ;)09:19
_snake!kopete09:19
ubotuKopete is the KDE IM, supporting AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, IRC, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise Messenger, and more. See http://kopete.kde.org09:20
naliothbl3ssing: adept is the package manager in kubuntu09:22
naliothubotu: teoo bl3ssing about repos09:22
ubotunalioth: Are you on ritalin?09:22
_snakelol09:22
_snakeubotu: tell bl3ssing about repos09:23
_snakeI guess I cant do that09:23
_snake:-D09:23
bl3ssingand what's this adept doing ...?09:23
_snake?09:23
bl3ssinginstalling things you might need so that your so to be updated?09:24
bl3ssingor ...?09:24
_snakeYou use adept to install almost any program out there09:24
_snakeand it keeps your OS updated09:24
bl3ssingwow ...09:24
jjesseits the add/remove programs of kubuntu09:24
_snakeYes09:24
bl3ssingit is just like in windows ... when you want to update the sp2 / sp3 ... 09:24
bl3ssingi understand.09:24
bl3ssingthat's cool09:24
bl3ssing;)09:24
bl3ssingI hate windows09:24
_snakeWith a lot more "add features"09:24
_snake:)09:24
bl3ssingand I want to use linux, even it is a little bit too complicated at this moment to me.09:25
bl3ssingbut ... I'll handle it.09:25
jjesseits a little like add/remove programs and auto update all rolled into one09:25
_snakeHow long have you been on it?09:25
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_snakebl3ssing: how long have you been on it?09:26
bl3ssingon linux?09:26
bl3ssingthis is the 2nd day09:26
bl3ssing;)09:26
_snakeAlright, keep with it09:26
bl3ssingI know I will need a lot of time to learn it ...09:26
_snakeI been on it 4 days :) lol09:26
bl3ssingbut I won't quit with it.09:26
bl3ssinglol snake09:26
bl3ssingyou're a senior ..09:27
bl3ssingI'm just a junior09:27
_snakehaha09:27
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_snakeOnce you figure stuff out, youll see its a great OS09:27
bl3ssinggreat09:27
bl3ssingI'd love to work with a multimedia program ... on linux ...09:27
_snakeI still have a lot to learn, but you have to remeber, you have to "unlearn" windows09:27
bl3ssinglike coreldraw and photoshop09:27
_snakeGet the gimp 09:28
bl3ssingbut I don't know which is the best on linux ...09:28
_snakeThats the linux equiv to photoshop09:28
_snakeand its free09:28
_snakeIn adept do a search for it09:28
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bl3ssingas long as I'll get more knowledge about linux, I'll quit with windows.09:28
bl3ssingreally?09:28
bl3ssingwow ... 09:28
bl3ssingthat's cool.09:28
_snakeYep :)09:28
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bl3ssingand ... how about a vectorial program like corel ...?09:29
bl3ssingis there in linux any other soft?09:29
mornfalltry inkscape09:29
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mornfallbtw both gimp and inkscape are inferior to their adobe counterparts... but for many uses, they are fine09:29
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_snakeI dont think gimp is inferior to photosgop09:29
_snakeshop*09:29
_snakeWorks just as well for me09:29
mornfall_snake: hmm, has it gotten filter layers recently? (i may have missed that)09:30
_snakemornfall: havn't checked09:30
_snakeCRAP. ADEPT TOOK A CRAP ON ME.09:30
mornfalli had an ancient photoshop version and however much i hate to admit it, it was superior to gimp in nearly any respect09:30
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_snakeWhy can't my adept communicate with su??09:30
bl3ssingmornfall ... what program do you recommend me to use ... a program as coreldraw for windows?09:31
mornfall_snake: probably not adept fault09:31
_snakeHow do I fix it........lol09:31
mornfallbl3ssing: i don't know anything else but inkscape remotely comparable to coreldraw09:31
mornfall_snake: (more like kdesu)09:31
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_snakewell tell me how to fix it mornfall lol09:32
mornfall_snake: nfi, sorry, i don't have anything with kubuntu's sudoised kdesu09:33
_snakenfi? (spell out)09:33
bl3ssinglol ... snake and mornfall09:34
bl3ssing:-)09:34
bl3ssinghahahah09:34
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mschmittcool ... kopete runs now finally without crashing :)09:35
_snakeYea09:35
_snakeHey MS can u help lil ol me?09:35
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_snakemschmitt that is lol09:35
_snake(if theres more Ms...)09:36
mschmittah :) hi _snake 09:36
pv_I haven't actually read any arguments why gimp is inferior to photoshop, and the difference is not obvious to me. Should I google a bit :)09:36
_snakemschmitt: Adept craped on me.09:36
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mschmittdo you still have that dns probs with conqueror?09:36
mschmitt_snake: i do like adept a lot09:36
_snakeNope, I noticed what was wrong09:36
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_snakeI was using hoary, not breezy, so I just updated and reinstalled :-D09:36
mschmitt:)09:36
_snakeAll is good now, except the pakage manager doesn't work09:37
_snakeit wont load09:37
_snakelike I click it, and it looks like its loading, then i doesn't09:37
mschmitt_snake: hm ... try apt-get install adept within the kommand line ;)09:37
mschmitthm ...09:37
mschmittwell ... than its installed, at least ...09:37
_snakeyes09:38
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mschmittwell ... hm ...09:38
_snakeBefore it started doing that, it said it couldn't communicate with su09:38
mornfall_snake: tried logout/login?09:38
_snakenaw ill try now09:38
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_snakebrb09:39
mornfallmaybe your kdesud went wonky09:39
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mschmitttry apt-get remove --purge adept && apt-get install adept09:40
naliothmschmitt: adept is standard in kubuntu09:40
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_snakemschmitt:  no good09:41
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nalioth_snake: what is happening now?09:41
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_snakemschmitt: same thing09:41
mschmittdoesnt matter ... there are no dependencys except the kubuntu-desktop thing09:42
mschmitthm ...09:42
_snakewhats another pakage manager? Ill download and try it09:42
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_snakesypnamic?09:42
_snakei think its called?09:42
mornfall_snake: can you give exact error, at least?09:43
mschmitttry and remove /root/.kde/share/config/adeptrc09:43
KnowerrorsAnybody here use Superkaramba?09:43
mornfallmschmitt: there's nothing in there, just window geometry09:43
_snakemornfall: these is no error09:43
mornfall_snake: ah, so it works then :-)09:43
mschmittmornfall: well ... sometimes removing those rc files works for me ;)09:44
_snakehow do I remove files *frowns at his 4 day noobishness*09:44
mornfallwell, i wrote adept, so i should know this isn't going to help ;-)09:44
mschmittfor example when kontact crashs when it starts09:44
mornfallif it is i'll eat another banana09:44
_snakemorn you wrote adept??09:45
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_snake*listens to morn* what do I got to do :)09:45
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mornfall[21:37:05]  < _snake> Why can't my adept communicate with su??09:46
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mornfallas i already said, this is most probably kdesu problem, not mine09:46
mschmittwell then try and reinstall kdesu09:47
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_snakehow09:47
_snakeThats what it said before, now it just shows the loading bouncing, and goes away09:47
mschmittwell ... there is no package for it ...09:47
mschmittkillall adept ...09:47
_snakesnake@Beast:~$ sudo killall adept09:48
_snakeadept: no process killed09:48
mschmitthm ...09:48
mornfalli'd try to make a new user :-)09:49
mornfallbut dunnow how you go about that in ubuntu :p09:49
mornfall(to make it "admin-capable"09:49
mornfall)09:49
mschmittwell ... you can try synaptic if you want another package manager.09:50
_snakeI like adept :( But I was going to use that to test09:50
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mschmittbut adept is undoubtfully better09:50
mschmitt;)09:50
_snakeAgreed09:50
_snakeHow do you uninstall packages?09:50
mschmittapt-get remove09:51
_snakelol figures09:51
_snakehmm synaptic wont start up either.09:51
mschmittwell ... can you edit the networking settings within the controlcenter?09:51
mschmitt(i.e. does the administrator mode work)09:52
_snakeMAN WTF IS WITH KUBUNTU. It sucks on a 1078x786 res.09:52
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_snakei cant see the bottom buttons of the network settings09:53
Stele1078x786? 09:53
Steleno wonder, no card I know supports that res09:53
mschmittwell ... that resolution sucks ;)09:53
_snakeSorry, 20 year old moniter09:53
mschmitt:)09:53
_snake768**09:53
mschmittwell .. try alt+left mouse btn09:53
mschmittand drag the window up09:53
_snakeNice09:53
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_snakeNo admin mode wont work in there09:54
mschmitthm ... try reinstalling the package "kde-guidance"09:55
mschmittapt-get --purge kde-guidance && apt-get install kde-guidance09:56
_snakeinvalid operation09:56
mschmittah ... forgot the remove09:57
mschmittafter the first apt-get09:57
_snakesnake@Beast:~$ sudo apt-get --purge kde-guidance && apt-get install kde-guidance09:57
_snakeE: Invalid operation kde-guidance09:57
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mschmittsudo apt-get remove --purge kde-guidance && apt-get install kde-guidance09:57
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mschmittsudo apt-get --purge remove kde-guidance && apt-get install kde-guidance09:58
_snakeok done09:58
mschmitttry adept again ...09:58
_snakeokay now adept give me "Su retured with an error"09:58
_snakeExited terminal, now adept wont load again09:59
mschmitthm ...09:59
mschmittand no prompt for root pwd?09:59
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_snakeOkay I reinstalled adept out of desperation, and it came back with a "Su returned with an error" message again10:01
_snakemornfall: any help here?10:01
mschmitttry kdesu adept10:01
_snake?10:01
mschmittfrom the konsole10:01
mschmittfrom users konsole10:01
mornfallwhat about sudo adept? :-)10:01
mornfallbut10:02
mornfallthat may fuck up your kde ;-)10:02
_snake...10:02
mornfall(because this tends to 0wn your files to root)10:02
mornfallsudo su adept could work10:02
mornfalla bit better that is10:02
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_snakehey mschmitt  your thing got adept up!10:02
mschmitthm ... did you ever set a root passwd?10:03
_snakeyes10:03
_snakeokay, now if I run it from the kmenu, it gives me that error10:03
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mornfallmschmitt: kubuntu doesn't want root password either10:04
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rrichiehi all10:04
mschmittbut why shouldn't i set it?10:05
rrichiecan anyone help me to make my kubuntu server accessible by xdmcp10:05
rrichiei only get a blank window10:05
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naliothubuntulog: tell mschmitt about root10:06
naliothdamned copycat nickusers10:06
naliothubotu: tell mschmitt about root10:06
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_snakeso uhh mschmitt any ideas?10:07
_snakeor should I just re-install kubuntu. Again.10:07
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_snakei probly should, because it wont detect my drives either10:08
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mschmittnalioth: very nice, thx10:09
mschmitt_snake: i dont know ...10:09
_snakeAlright we I suppose ill just reinstall lol10:09
_snakeOne more question10:09
_snakeHang on10:09
_snakeIs this safe to use10:11
_snakehttp://www.psychocats.net/linux/sources.php10:11
_snakeIt seems like these problems start after I follow that, but thats the only way I know to get all the extra reps10:11
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mschmittwhat packages do you need from these reps?10:12
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_snakeJust whatever lol10:13
_snakeThey add like 10000000 programs10:13
_snakelike flash isn't there by default, it is once you do that10:13
mschmittand all are useless ... more likely to destroy your system, as we recognized ;)10:13
_snakeThey are?10:13
mschmitt:)10:14
mschmitti dont know10:14
mschmitt:)10:14
_snakeWell is there anyway to do that, like seriously, if you add that to yours, you will get to pick from like a crap load more programs10:14
mschmittwell ... did you try to uncomment the universe line in the original sources.list?10:14
_snakein the package manager10:14
_snakeUhh no10:14
_snakelol10:14
_snakeI didn't know I could...10:15
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_snakewell okay im going to go reinstall kubuntu again, ill come back when its back up10:15
mschmittwell after doing that i had the flashplayer stuff ..10:15
mschmittwell ... try just one other thing ...10:15
_snakewhats that10:15
nalioth_snake: dont use non ubuntu pkgs10:15
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mschmittdid you backup your sources.list?10:15
_snakeI dont think so, hang on ill look10:16
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naliothmschmitt: not a problem10:16
naliothubotu: tell _snake about sources10:16
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_snakeOMG nalioth I DIDNT KNO ABOUT THAT!! LOL!! I wish I would have used that first :(10:18
_snakeOkay im just going to go re install10:18
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_snakeill go on my mIRC and chat with u guys while it goes tho10:18
_snakebrb10:18
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v-dogg_is mirc ported to kubuntu? :p10:18
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mschmittafter you got your old sources.list back, you can do apt-get upgrade ...10:19
mschmittmaybe that helps10:19
Ayidenhi, can anyone tell me what program I need to be able to change .xm files to mp3?10:19
mschmitt(after apt-get update)10:19
Ayidenubotu: xm10:19
ubotuI haven't a clue, Ayiden10:19
Ayidenubotu: .xm10:19
ubotuAyiden: Syntax error in line 110:19
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Snake_Back10:21
Snake_:)10:21
Snake_Thank god debian is easy to install10:22
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Snake_It's as tho everyone in this place died..10:24
spityhi10:24
Snake_lol hi10:25
Ayidenhi10:25
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Ayidenanyone know a way to convert xm audio files to mp3 or ogg?10:25
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Snake_La.10:29
`NomadHi..  I have a totally off-topic question.. What,s a synonym for "character flaw"?  :(10:30
`Nomadit,s for my kids homework and I'm french, can,t come up with one thing!10:30
Snake_A sysnonym for char flaw... uhhh10:30
mschmitthas anybody experience with the bluetooth stuff?10:31
Snake_A synonym is...something that is simaler right?10:31
`Nomadyes10:31
`Nomad:)10:31
`NomadThanks guys10:31
mschmittanybody knows about bluetooth?10:31
`Nomad!bluetooth10:32
ubotu`Nomad: I don't know, could you explain it?10:32
mschmitt:(10:32
`Nomadnot ubotu.. :(10:32
`NomadI wish I had bluetooth gadgets, none so far, so no expertise :(10:32
Snake_character defect perhaps?10:32
mschmittwell ... there is a wiki page ... but its not very usefull10:33
Snake_Nomad10:33
Snake_Would that work??10:33
`NomadI came up with these:  lack, vice, fault, weakness, shortcoming10:33
StDangneyhi jst wondering if anyone is having problem of installing a usb laserprinter with kubuntu brezzy?10:33
`Nomaddunno, I,ll give her them and she can figure out what she needs. :)10:33
Snake_OHHHHHH YOU MEAN LIKE A FLAW!! LOL!!!10:33
Snake_Hold on! I got plenty10:33
judaxAchilles Heel10:33
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Snake_imperfect>10:34
`NomadLOL..  Sorry, I know it,s totally off-topic, but so many brainy people hang out here.. :)10:34
`Nomadthought I'd take a chance10:34
Snake_umm10:35
ttrichle7Hi, trying to use kubuntu in an corporate environment10:35
KnowerrorsWill Skippy work with kde?10:35
ttrichle7need to enable vpn10:35
`NomadI think she has enough by now, thanks for playing  ;)10:35
`Nomad!vpn10:35
ubotu`Nomad: I don't know, could you explain it?10:35
Snake_lol10:36
Snake_:)10:36
`NomadThanks Snake, have a great evening10:36
ttrichle7I saw pptp-linux not sure if that will do it10:36
Snake_you 210:36
StDangneyhi guys. have any of you install a hp laserjet with kubuntu successfully...?10:36
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Snake_No sir10:37
Snake_!sources10:37
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:37
StDangneyso currently there's no way of connecting kubuntu/ubuntu with a usb printer then...?10:38
mianosjuhuuuuuu10:38
mianosmy treo is syncing with kpilot10:38
mianossince 4 months i'm working for a solution10:38
mianosnow it works10:39
mianosdidldudey10:39
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mschmittcongrats :)10:39
Snake_Nice10:39
mschmittare you using bluetooth?10:39
Snake_StDangney: i'm sure its possible, did you install the drivers and all that?10:39
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StDangneyhi Snake_, yap i managed to get a couple of networked HP laserjet printer without any problem.10:40
mschmittmianos: do you use bluetooth?10:40
Snake_StDangney: Well from beyond that, i'm sorry I can't help :(10:41
StDangneyand when it comes to the usb-connected laser, kubuntu found it and add to the printer list but when i try to print test page, the usb printer jst doesnt do anything...10:41
Snake_Perhaps ask on kubutnu forums?10:41
Snake_http://kubuntuforums.net10:41
StDangneyno worries, jst wondering if it's me or someone else is having the same pro.10:41
StDangneyokeydokie... will do then. cheers,10:42
Snake_*nods*10:42
libbensuperkaramba is not as stable as karamba?10:42
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StDangneyi didnt even know there is a forum for kubuntu as well... :)10:42
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mianosmschmitt: yes10:43
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mianoscause usb is unable to run10:43
mianosi worked on this since 4 months10:43
mianosyeaha10:44
Snake_StDangney: still here?10:44
StDangneyyap...10:44
Snake_Obviously....perhaps this has something to do with you (read above)10:44
Snake_mianoscause usb is unable to run10:45
bl3ssinghow can I read a realplayer file in linux?10:45
mianosSnake_: ?10:45
StDangneysorry Snake_, read where...?10:45
mianoswtf?10:45
Snake_mianos: nothin, i was quoting you10:45
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mianosaja10:45
bl3ssingnot read, but listen to a *.arm file ...10:45
Snake_mianos said: cause usb is unable to run so perhaps....10:46
bl3ssingis there any program ...?10:46
Snake_blessing, does it work in aramok?10:46
mianosSnake_: usb connection with treo 650 an pilot-xfer10:46
Snake_Or you could just do this10:46
StDangneyic. funny thing is i can use my usb flash memory stick without any problem10:46
mianosdoesn't work10:46
Snake_http://www.real.com/linux?pcode=rn&src=freeplayer_partner&opage=freeplayer_partner10:46
Snake_:)10:47
Snake_Oh okay mianos 10:47
mianos0;)10:47
StDangneyand kubuntu also seems to be able to detect the printer as well... :|10:47
Snake_odd10:47
Snake_bl3ssing: try aramok, or just use http://www.real.com/linux?pcode=rn&src=freeplayer_partner&opage=freeplayer_partner lol10:47
Snake_brb guys10:48
StDangneyyap i know...10:48
bl3ssingok10:48
bl3ssingbut ... how can I install a bin file?10:48
bl3ssingi mean ... I've downloaded that real player for linux ... but it is a real.bin file10:48
bl3ssinghow can I access it?10:48
bl3ssing:-(10:48
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naliothubotu: tell bl3ssing about cli10:49
KnowerrorsHey all, was viewing a jpg from an email in Firefox, in the default screen viewer, now I have a "Pan Icon" window that won't go away, even though the image viewer is closed, anybody know what this is and how to close it?10:50
libbenanyone knows where i can get superkaramba newest deb?10:50
libbenthe one in repos is not the newest 10:50
libbennalioth: do u know if there is a place for unofficial debs ? like updated ones and not in the repos10:52
naliothubotu: tell libben about backports10:52
naliothlibben: using anything but official repos can wreck your box10:52
libbentrue, but isnt the repos in frozen state? and if i want something updated i need to go to dapper10:53
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_snakehey again\10:55
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kairu0hey snake10:58
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snake_whats kubuntus default root password??11:03
snake_!rootpassword11:04
ubotusnake_: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about11:04
snake_!root11:04
uboturoot is, like, totally, disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo11:04
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Fillado!xvid11:13
ubotuNo idea, Fillado11:13
naliothFillado: what are you after?11:15
Filladoxvid11:16
naliothubotu: tell Fillado about w32codecs11:16
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Filladothanks11:17
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KnowerrorsHi all, got two windows that say "Pan Icon" that won't close, opened with image viewer from Firefox, how do I close em please?11:26
Ouaaaahhhwho try the KDE 3.5rc1 ?11:26
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SgepHow can I use libssl0.9.8 on breezy?11:33
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Stelenow ive got ubuntu installed on the new machine11:33
Stelecan someone recommend an easy method of getting a good nvidia driver installer?11:33
Steleinstalled even?11:33
Stelepreferrably with an apt-get?11:33
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naliothubotu: tell Stele about nvidia11:36
Steleheh, cool11:36
Sgephttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=44279411:36
Stelesweet11:36
Sgepubotu: tell Sgep about libssl11:36
Sgepubotu: tell Sgep about libssl0.9.811:37
Sgepubotu: tell Sgep about libssl0.9.711:37
naliothSgep: what do you need?11:37
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SgepWhich doesn't seem to be available in breezy11:37
nalioth!info libssl0.9.711:37
ubotulibssl0.9.7: (SSL shared libraries), section libs, is important. Version: 0.9.7g-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2151 kB, Installed size: 5204 kB11:37
Sgep!info libssl0.9.811:38
naliothSgep: please do not fish with the bot11:38
naliothif you want libssl0.9.8, visit the homepage where it is made11:38
naliothbecause .7 is hte latest one we have11:39
crimsun!info libssl0.9.8 dapper11:40
Sgephttp://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopic.php?t=101711:40
crimsun0.9.8 is in dapper11:41
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Steleforgive me - those nvidia driver pages refer to "Synaptic" or "Kynaptic"11:42
Stelei dont seem to have either of those11:42
wasp_emshi does anyone know how i can check my cpu??i have a laptop and the lite of the hard drive is going crazy plus i cant open some files11:42
naliothcrimsun: you recommend users to upgrade to dapper for one package?11:42
Stelebut then,I just installed kubuntu11:42
naliothStele: use adept11:42
Steleroger11:43
crimsunnalioth: ...no11:43
_snakeOkay this is total bullcrap. How come when I set breezy to us the sources found in !sources (from the IRC) my whole system goes whack.11:43
crimsunthere has to be a darned good reason for wanting 0.9.8 in the first place.11:43
naliothi dont consider dapper to be a viable source of programs11:43
naliothand so i dont recomend it to folks11:44
_snakeNow none of my drives are found in the "media" area, and most of those sources are no long avalible11:44
_snake!sources11:44
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:44
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Stelemaybe i should start with the SMP kernel11:44
Stelesomeone posted an apt-get earlier on how to get the 686 smp kernel11:44
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naliothStele: search for it in adept11:45
naliothStele: it's quite easy11:45
Stelei see it there11:45
Steleall i need to do is "install" it, and will it become active automatically?11:45
naliothStele: thats correct11:46
wasp_emsnalioth: my computer for some reason is going very slow..i try to open some files and they dont..and my hard drive is just flashing like crazy...in the process list there are too many things..and i have no idea what to do or what to kill or know what is causing all this trouble11:46
Stelewow this is cool11:46
Steleso much better than RH9 :)11:46
naliothwasp_ems: open a konsole and type "top"11:47
SgepRH9?11:47
SteleRedHat 911:47
rrichiehi all11:47
rrichieis it possible to connect to a distant existing X session (without having to log in) ?11:47
wasp_emsok and now?11:47
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naliothwasp_ems: what is on the top of the list?11:48
wasp_emsxmms11:48
naliothwasp_ems: turn off your xmms11:48
wasp_emsnow ksysguard11:48
wasp_emsand xorg11:48
naliothwasp_ems: is your box still sluggish?11:48
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wasp_emsxmms is closed...but the system is the same11:49
wasp_emsbut it still is on the top11:50
naliothwasp_ems: xmms?11:50
wasp_emsyes11:50
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naliothwasp_ems: see the number under the PID column next to xmms?11:50
wasp_ems766511:50
naliothwasp_ems: press q to quit top and then type "kill -9 7665"11:51
wasp_emsok i did11:52
naliothwasp_ems: is your machine still sluggish?11:53
wasp_emsbut still same problem11:53
SgepAre RPM's usable at all on Kubuntu?11:53
naliothwasp_ems: type top again 11:53
wasp_emsi did xorg is on the top11:53
wasp_emsmy hard drive has stopped flashing11:54
wasp_emsbut when i click on the folder my documents which is a url to my windows partition xmms comes up again at the top and the hard drive flashes11:54
naliothwasp_ems: i suspect xmms was hung11:55
wasp_emswhat can i do?11:55
naliothwasp_ems: do you have a system monitor kicker applet?11:55
wasp_emsi dont know11:55
SgepIs there a GUI frontend for installing RPM's via alien?11:56
naliothSgep: you shouldnt use rpms11:56
naliothSgep: what pkg are you wanting?11:57
Sgeptmw11:57
wasp_emsnalioth: i found what the problem is but dont know how to solve it...apparently i cant open any folder on the system cause it comes up like trying to open it through xmms and play it...11:57
SgepThe debian repo provided doesn't work because kubuntu breezy doesn't provide libssl0.9.811:57
naliothwasp_ems: wow11:57
wasp_emscant access home, applications etc11:58
libbenis there anyway to remove the "panel" completly so i can use my osx inspired karamba theme?11:58
naliothsgep the best way is to have apt-get build it from dapper source repos11:58
naliothwasp_ems: i'd go to #ubuntu and ask in there11:58
wasp_emsbut i know a solution11:58
wasp_emsill restart11:58
Sgepnalioth: How, exactly?11:58
wasp_emsand go into the equivalent of safe mode11:58
wasp_emsfixed my probs last time11:59
naliothSgep: first go to packages.ubuntu.com and see if it exists for dapper11:59
SgepIt does11:59
SgepI checked earlier11:59
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naliothSgep: then open your sources.list for writing and clone a deb-src line from breezy12:00
libbenis dapper anything u wanna trust yet? or is it to unstable?12:01
troyhey does anyone know why setting up modems and kppp in breezy is such a bitch?12:01
naliothlibben: it is very unstable 12:01
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troyI'm using a real hardware modem and everything...12:01
libbenremember u were saying that u downgraded to kde 3.4.3?12:02
libbenso ill take ur word for it =)12:02
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