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BenClamont-away: ping01:41
lamont-awayBenC: I have about 30 seconds - wassup?01:44
BenClamont-away: good news, ia64 failed immediately when oldconfig ran :)01:44
lamont-awayheh01:44
BenCjust wanted to pass that on01:44
lamont-awayright. I'll add that right ahead of hppa then.01:44
lamont-awayanyway, need to run.  back in a few hours.01:45
lamont-awayand yes, I'll read scrollback01:45
BenCI have an ia64 with ubuntu, but I need to update it and get it running again01:45
BenClater01:45
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YagisanBenC ping04:41
BenCYagisan: pong04:41
YagisanBenC: This bug http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9972 is confirmed on breezy04:42
YagisanBenC: rtl-8139 doesn't handle buggy acpi gracefully04:42
BenCYagisan: ok, please email me back about that04:43
BenCI'm about to go to bed04:43
YagisanBenC: no worries, I just got the bugzilla email04:44
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fabbioneBenC: the sparc build loops the same way as the others btw06:43
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fabbioneBenC: never mind.. that was with 2.208:09
fabbionegonna test build 3.3 soon08:09
fabbioneBenC: -> #ubuntu-meeting09:02
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jbaileyBenC: Got a kernel you want tested on ppc64 before I settle in?02:01
BenCjbailey: I will in about 10 minutes02:02
jbaileyBenC: 02:02
jbailey'ksy02:02
jbailey'kay02:02
jbaileyI'll avoid settling in until then. =)02:02
fabbionehey BenC 02:04
BenChey02:04
BenCI missed the dev meeting :/02:05
fabbioneyes02:05
BenChad my days all mixed up02:05
fabbionefollow up with JaneW02:05
BenCfabbione: are you doing a security compile on davis?02:06
fabbioneyes02:06
fabbionei can slow down if you need02:06
BenCif you can, I'd like to get a kernel for jbailey02:06
BenCthanks02:07
fabbionesure02:07
BenCLoad == 322 :)02:07
fabbionegoing down now02:07
BenCmy build wouldn't even start after 30 seconds02:08
BenCthanks, mine starts now02:08
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fabbioneBenC: i am down to -j5002:09
CataEnryhi all02:09
fabbioneyou can take the other -j25002:09
jbaileyDev meeting?02:10
jbaileyOh hey, it's Thursday.02:10
fabbionejbailey: Dapper Devel Meeting02:10
BenCjbailey: first Dapper Development Status was 5 hours ago :)02:10
BenCcool, I wasn't the only one02:10
BenCyeah, the day threw me off02:10
jbaileyWe can say a void fell over the timezone.02:10
BenCI knew it was today, but the time was out of whack02:11
jbaileyOr at least, it looked all dark outside.  I got scared, hid under the covers.02:11
jbaileyWith my eyes closed.02:11
BenClol02:11
BenCI'll claim DST messed me up02:11
jbaileyJaneW: Thats my excuse and I'm sticking too it!02:11
chmjbah, I missed it also 02:13
chmjJaneW: I was offline, axxess has authenticaiton problems with the Saix vs IS thing going on 02:14
BenCwe need a cronjob that sends out reminder emails02:15
chmjI agree 02:15
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BenCjbailey: this is going to take longer than 10 minutes, btw02:25
jbaileyBenC: Is the time still reasonable to measure in minutes?02:25
BenCprobably less than an hour is about as close as I can come02:26
BenCfabbione and his damned security build is hogging cpu :)02:26
fabbioneBenC: dude.. export CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=25002:27
fabbioneand you are all set to hog 5 times more cpu than me02:27
BenCok, I'll let it rip then02:27
BenCfabbione: I am working on sparc64 config's right now02:28
fabbioneBenC: coolness02:28
BenCso -4.4 should build on sparc6402:28
fabbioneneat02:29
BenCgoing to try to get all the config's atleast "buildable"02:29
fabbionelamont was mumbling something about hppa 02:30
BenCgreat, still linker errors with ppc6402:40
BenCthere's no end to the madness02:40
fabbionedo you prefer to -security? ;)02:42
BenCthink I'll pass :)02:43
fabbioneBenC: i was thinking that it might be a good idea to start making debian/changelog a changelog again.. or somehow slam git log diff between releases somewhere02:44
jbaileyBenC: What linker errors?  Is it related the the binutils breakage?02:44
fabbionegiven .15 initial fun is finished.. we should turn it into something more serious02:45
fabbioneand get proper release names from JaneW :P02:45
BenCjbailey: I've no idea really02:45
BenCfabbione: yeah, I've been more detailed in my recent changelog entries after -1.102:45
BenCbut something automated to take line 1 from git-log would be nice02:46
BenCfabbione: I was thinking of using Linus' shortlog (in git) to create something to include with normal changelog02:46
fabbioneexactly02:46
fabbionewe need to keep in mind two things:02:47
fabbione* we need make git reverse $id something "simple" for non-kernel team people02:47
fabbione* we might die now and nobody would know how to do it02:47
fabbioneit was easy with dpatch02:47
BenCit's easy with git too02:48
fabbionebut we need to find the same compromise with git02:48
fabbioneyeah02:48
BenCbut it wont be a "here are the patches, here's the description of each one" kind of thing02:48
BenCjust a running changelog02:48
fabbionei was more thinking like:02:48
fabbioneChanges by BenC:02:49
fabbione * add foo:02:49
BenCyeah, the git-log shortlog will do that02:49
fabbione    - changeset IDS:02:49
fabbionewithout extra info on why there are for ex 10 changests 02:49
BenCchangeset IDS will be a 64-bit SHA hash :)02:49
fabbionethat's fine02:49
fabbionebut i can just say02:49
fabbionefor i in $id[1]  $[2] ; do git revert $i; done02:50
fabbionethat would make it fairly trivial to revert stuff02:50
CataEnrybye all02:57
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fabbioneBenC: did you finish your build on davis?03:23
BenCyeah, ppc64 isn't going to happen03:24
fabbioneuh?03:26
fabbionewhy not?03:26
BenCbinutils failures03:27
BenCreally odd linker failures for ppc6403:27
fabbioneah03:28
fabbioneok03:28
BenC~bcollins/build.log if you want to take a look03:29
fabbioneon davis?03:30
fabbioneuh yeah03:31
fabbionehere it is03:31
fabbione*cough*binutils die!*cough*03:32
BenCjbailey says the linker messages are just warnings03:32
BenCif so, I can fix the missing symbols and get a build03:33
fabbionei assume it's still worth to give it a shot03:33
jbaileyIt'll keep me from pouting at him. ;)03:33
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BenCI'll keep working on it03:39
fabbioneok03:39
fabbionewarty build is done03:39
fabbionei am going to set a low CONC_LEVEL for hoary03:39
fabbioneso you have more machine power03:39
BenCfound the problem with the missing symbols03:45
BenCsome of the video drivers use nvram, but the video is built-in, and nvram is modular03:46
BenCthe easy fix is to make nvram built-in, but I want to do the right thing and make kconfig handle this03:46
mjg59Some of the video drivers use nvram? Wow.03:48
BenCnot sure if there's a way to say "if CONFIG_FB_MATROX=y, and CONFIG_NVRAM, make CONFIG_NVRAM=y"03:48
BenCyeah, like 4 or 5 of them03:48
BenCthey don't require it, but if nvram is configured, they use it03:48
mjg59Oh, right03:48
mjg59How weird03:48
BenCneed a weak dep between the video drivers and nvram, but this may be a lost cause03:49
mjg59Oh, only on PPC?03:49
mjg59That makes more sense03:49
BenCnvram is generic, but I think the video stuff is more geared toward ppc, yes03:50
BenCoh, interesting, CONFIG_NVRAM isn't even on ppc6403:52
BenCso I just need some ifdef's03:52
zulheylo03:58
jbaileyZoool03:59
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zul_^that was weird04:02
zul_^i got hit in the face with a soccer ball last night04:02
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zul_^it was kind of bradyesque04:02
jbaileyAnd this is cuasing you to spawn yourself multiple times?04:03
BenCdid your nose swell to the size of the ball?04:03
jbaileyAnd is "bradyesque" your way of saying they'll be nine of you in a moment?04:03
BenCand did you have to miss the big dance? :)04:03
zul_^bastards..04:04
fabbionehey zul04:05
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fabbionelater guys04:05
BenClater04:05
zul_^later04:05
BenCsweet, all the linker warnings aside, I now have a ppc64 vmlinux04:09
zul_^nifty04:10
BenCjbailey: I should have a kernel for you soon now04:10
jbaileyBenC: It's passed that point this time?04:11
BenCyeah, it's on to modules now04:11
BenCmissing symbols there wont cause it to fail to make a .deb, so I think we're clear for a test04:11
jbaileywoohoo =)04:11
zul_^BenC: psst..my patches ;)04:26
mjg59Can we have CONFIG_EDD on pls k thx?04:31
BenCzul_^: yeah, I have them, just need to merge them04:45
BenCtrying to get as many arch's building as possible so people can start testing04:45
BenCmjg59: i386 and amd64?04:50
mjg59BenC: Yeah04:50
BenCok, done04:50
BenCdoes it need to be =y or is =m ok?04:50
jbaileyBenC: I'm at a good time to test ppc64.  Is it ready?  If not, i'll check in after lunch.04:54
BenCit's doing the dpkg-deb right now04:54
jbaileyNice timing. =)04:55
BenCless than 5 minutes04:55
BenCyes, perfect :)04:55
mjg59BenC: =m should be fine, I think (though it's a fairly tiny amount of code)05:05
lamont-awayAutomatically append version information to the version string (LOCALVERSION_AUTO) [Y/n/?]  (NEW) aborted!05:15
lamont-awayConsole input is closed. Run 'make oldconfig' to update configuration.05:15
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BenClamont-away: -4.4 will have a sane, probably buildable config05:15
lamont-awaycool.05:16
BenCjbailey: people/~bcollins/2.6.15/05:18
BenCpowerpc64-smp debs are there05:19
jbaileyBenC: Thanks!05:21
mdzBenC: what are the blockers remaining for updating the metapackages to 2.6.15?05:37
BenClrm, and has to be post flight 105:37
BenCinfinity is supposed to be working on lrm05:38
BenCpost-fligh1 was Kamion's request05:38
mdzI would prefer that we transition that to be your responsibility, so that you don't block on someone else for ABI changes and new upstreams05:38
mdzpost-flight1 is fine, but that's today or tomorrow05:38
mdz(with luck)05:38
BenCI was under the impression that I needed to be hands-off for lrm05:39
mdzfrom whom?05:39
dilingerBenC: have you guys enabled CONFIG_EDD in 2.6.1505:56
dilinger?05:56
dilingerit's disabled in breezy05:56
BenCI just did05:56
dilingerah, cool05:56
BenCwill be in -4.405:56
dilingerstatic or module?05:56
BenCmodule, would static be better?05:56
dilingerdoesn't really matter, i was just curious05:57
BenCit's modular05:57
dilinger(working on parted geometry stuff)05:57
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jb-770Ben, no  worky ;)06:38
jb-770How much of the kernel panic do you want?06:40
jb-770It panics when running hwclock.06:41
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infinityBenC : I don't mind you touching LRM for ABI changes, I was just personally holding off on updating it since I want to shove in shiny new drivers that need a new X (which needs a new glibc, which needs a new binutils)06:54
infinityBenC : No guarantees that the current source would even build against 2.6.15 right now.  If in doubt at all, you may be better off just waiting a day for the other stuff to fall into place.06:55
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jbaileyinfinity: Bah, you don't need sleep.06:56
mjg59It sounds like the new ATI drivers actually do power management properly07:42
mjg59Which is very nice of them07:42
jbaileymjg59: The free ones, or the binary ones?07:43
mjg59The binary ones07:44
BenCdo the binary ATI drivers work on PPC?07:47
BenCjbailey: any luck with ppc64?07:47
jbaileyBenC: crash and burn when setting hwclock07:48
jbaileyBenC: I don't think there are ppc binary drivers.07:48
jbaileyI wish there were.07:48
jbaileyScreen savers would suck so much less.07:48
BenChwclock huh...let me check the config's07:48
BenCyeah, my screen saver shows some weird white lines brushing to the left of the images07:49
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BenCjbailey: ping11:08
jbaileyBenC: pong11:08
BenCjbailey: were you able to get the panic from the ppc64 test?11:08
jbaileyBenC: Eh, I had asked you which part you needed, I hadn't seen an answer.11:09
jbaileyI can reboot and get it easily enough.11:09
BenCI totally missed where you came on as jb-77011:09
jbaileyAh, sorry. =)11:09
jbaileyLemme reboot to catch that.11:09
BenCnah, was my fault, if you get a chance to get it, just email it, to bmc@visi.net (regular email is down)11:10
jb-770Lets give this a try.11:13
jb-770No serial console on the ppc64 box any parts you want in particular?11:14
jb-770Or should  I copy all of it?11:14
jb-770I should probably figure out the oops catcher at some point.11:17
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