=== crimsun [i=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === makx [n=max@baikonur.stro.at] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dilinger [i=dilinger@mouth.voxel.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mjg59 [n=mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === smurf [n=smurf@debian/developer/smurf] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Traxer|off [i=traxer@shell6.powershells.de] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === infinity [n=adconrad@loki.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Hans [i=hans@hans.hansheino.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Hans [i=hans@hans.hansheino.nl] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] [01:41] lamont-away: ping [01:44] BenC: I have about 30 seconds - wassup? [01:44] lamont-away: good news, ia64 failed immediately when oldconfig ran :) [01:44] heh [01:44] just wanted to pass that on [01:44] right. I'll add that right ahead of hppa then. [01:45] anyway, need to run. back in a few hours. [01:45] and yes, I'll read scrollback [01:45] I have an ia64 with ubuntu, but I need to update it and get it running again [01:45] later === makx [n=max@baikonur.stro.at] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dilinger [i=dilinger@mouth.voxel.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === infinity [n=adconrad@loki.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-77-39-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:41] BenC ping [04:41] Yagisan: pong [04:42] BenC: This bug http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9972 is confirmed on breezy [04:42] BenC: rtl-8139 doesn't handle buggy acpi gracefully [04:43] Yagisan: ok, please email me back about that [04:43] I'm about to go to bed [04:44] BenC: no worries, I just got the bugzilla email === zoe [n=zoe@gnulinux.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:43] BenC: the sparc build loops the same way as the others btw === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-77-39-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] [08:09] BenC: never mind.. that was with 2.2 [08:09] gonna test build 3.3 soon [09:02] BenC: -> #ubuntu-meeting === calc_ [n=ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === calc [n=ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-169-236.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === chmj [n=chmj@wbs-146-137-107.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:01] BenC: Got a kernel you want tested on ppc64 before I settle in? [02:02] jbailey: I will in about 10 minutes [02:02] BenC: [02:02] 'ksy [02:02] 'kay [02:02] I'll avoid settling in until then. =) [02:04] hey BenC [02:04] hey [02:05] I missed the dev meeting :/ [02:05] yes [02:05] had my days all mixed up [02:05] follow up with JaneW [02:06] fabbione: are you doing a security compile on davis? [02:06] yes [02:06] i can slow down if you need [02:06] if you can, I'd like to get a kernel for jbailey [02:07] thanks [02:07] sure [02:07] Load == 322 :) [02:07] going down now [02:08] my build wouldn't even start after 30 seconds [02:08] thanks, mine starts now === CataEnry [n=cataenry@host39-23.pool8258.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:09] BenC: i am down to -j50 [02:09] hi all [02:09] you can take the other -j250 [02:10] Dev meeting? [02:10] Oh hey, it's Thursday. [02:10] jbailey: Dapper Devel Meeting [02:10] jbailey: first Dapper Development Status was 5 hours ago :) [02:10] cool, I wasn't the only one [02:10] yeah, the day threw me off [02:10] We can say a void fell over the timezone. [02:11] I knew it was today, but the time was out of whack [02:11] Or at least, it looked all dark outside. I got scared, hid under the covers. [02:11] With my eyes closed. [02:11] lol [02:11] I'll claim DST messed me up [02:11] JaneW: Thats my excuse and I'm sticking too it! [02:13] bah, I missed it also [02:14] JaneW: I was offline, axxess has authenticaiton problems with the Saix vs IS thing going on [02:15] we need a cronjob that sends out reminder emails [02:15] I agree === BenC doesn't do so well marking his own calander === CataEnry [n=cataenry@host39-23.pool8258.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:25] jbailey: this is going to take longer than 10 minutes, btw [02:25] BenC: Is the time still reasonable to measure in minutes? [02:26] probably less than an hour is about as close as I can come [02:26] fabbione and his damned security build is hogging cpu :) [02:27] BenC: dude.. export CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=250 [02:27] and you are all set to hog 5 times more cpu than me [02:27] ok, I'll let it rip then [02:28] fabbione: I am working on sparc64 config's right now [02:28] BenC: coolness [02:28] so -4.4 should build on sparc64 [02:29] neat [02:29] going to try to get all the config's atleast "buildable" [02:30] lamont was mumbling something about hppa [02:40] great, still linker errors with ppc64 [02:40] there's no end to the madness [02:42] do you prefer to -security? ;) [02:43] think I'll pass :) [02:44] BenC: i was thinking that it might be a good idea to start making debian/changelog a changelog again.. or somehow slam git log diff between releases somewhere [02:44] BenC: What linker errors? Is it related the the binutils breakage? [02:45] given .15 initial fun is finished.. we should turn it into something more serious [02:45] and get proper release names from JaneW :P [02:45] jbailey: I've no idea really [02:45] fabbione: yeah, I've been more detailed in my recent changelog entries after -1.1 [02:46] but something automated to take line 1 from git-log would be nice [02:46] fabbione: I was thinking of using Linus' shortlog (in git) to create something to include with normal changelog [02:46] exactly [02:47] we need to keep in mind two things: [02:47] * we need make git reverse $id something "simple" for non-kernel team people [02:47] * we might die now and nobody would know how to do it [02:47] it was easy with dpatch [02:48] it's easy with git too [02:48] but we need to find the same compromise with git [02:48] yeah [02:48] but it wont be a "here are the patches, here's the description of each one" kind of thing [02:48] just a running changelog [02:48] i was more thinking like: [02:49] Changes by BenC: [02:49] * add foo: [02:49] yeah, the git-log shortlog will do that [02:49] - changeset IDS: [02:49] without extra info on why there are for ex 10 changests [02:49] changeset IDS will be a 64-bit SHA hash :) [02:49] that's fine [02:49] but i can just say [02:50] for i in $id[1] $[2] ; do git revert $i; done [02:50] that would make it fairly trivial to revert stuff [02:57] bye all === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:23] BenC: did you finish your build on davis? [03:24] yeah, ppc64 isn't going to happen [03:26] uh? [03:26] why not? [03:27] binutils failures [03:27] really odd linker failures for ppc64 [03:28] ah [03:28] ok [03:29] ~bcollins/build.log if you want to take a look [03:30] on davis? [03:31] uh yeah [03:31] here it is [03:32] *cough*binutils die!*cough* [03:32] jbailey says the linker messages are just warnings [03:33] if so, I can fix the missing symbols and get a build [03:33] i assume it's still worth to give it a shot [03:33] It'll keep me from pouting at him. ;) === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-138-72.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:39] I'll keep working on it [03:39] ok [03:39] warty build is done [03:39] i am going to set a low CONC_LEVEL for hoary [03:39] so you have more machine power [03:45] found the problem with the missing symbols [03:46] some of the video drivers use nvram, but the video is built-in, and nvram is modular [03:46] the easy fix is to make nvram built-in, but I want to do the right thing and make kconfig handle this [03:48] Some of the video drivers use nvram? Wow. [03:48] not sure if there's a way to say "if CONFIG_FB_MATROX=y, and CONFIG_NVRAM, make CONFIG_NVRAM=y" [03:48] yeah, like 4 or 5 of them [03:48] they don't require it, but if nvram is configured, they use it [03:48] Oh, right [03:48] How weird [03:49] need a weak dep between the video drivers and nvram, but this may be a lost cause [03:49] Oh, only on PPC? [03:49] That makes more sense [03:50] nvram is generic, but I think the video stuff is more geared toward ppc, yes [03:52] oh, interesting, CONFIG_NVRAM isn't even on ppc64 [03:52] so I just need some ifdef's [03:58] heylo [03:59] Zoool === zul_^ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:02] that was weird [04:02] i got hit in the face with a soccer ball last night === zul__ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:02] it was kind of bradyesque [04:03] And this is cuasing you to spawn yourself multiple times? [04:03] did your nose swell to the size of the ball? [04:03] And is "bradyesque" your way of saying they'll be nine of you in a moment? [04:03] and did you have to miss the big dance? :) [04:04] bastards.. [04:05] hey zul === fabbione heads off to school [04:05] later guys [04:05] later [04:05] later [04:09] sweet, all the linker warnings aside, I now have a ppc64 vmlinux [04:10] nifty [04:10] jbailey: I should have a kernel for you soon now [04:11] BenC: It's passed that point this time? [04:11] yeah, it's on to modules now [04:11] missing symbols there wont cause it to fail to make a .deb, so I think we're clear for a test [04:11] woohoo =) [04:26] BenC: psst..my patches ;) [04:31] Can we have CONFIG_EDD on pls k thx? [04:45] zul_^: yeah, I have them, just need to merge them [04:45] trying to get as many arch's building as possible so people can start testing [04:50] mjg59: i386 and amd64? [04:50] BenC: Yeah [04:50] ok, done [04:50] does it need to be =y or is =m ok? [04:54] BenC: I'm at a good time to test ppc64. Is it ready? If not, i'll check in after lunch. [04:54] it's doing the dpkg-deb right now [04:55] Nice timing. =) [04:55] less than 5 minutes [04:55] yes, perfect :) [05:05] BenC: =m should be fine, I think (though it's a fairly tiny amount of code) [05:15] Automatically append version information to the version string (LOCALVERSION_AUTO) [Y/n/?] (NEW) aborted! [05:15] Console input is closed. Run 'make oldconfig' to update configuration. === lamont-away owes BenC a beer or some such [05:15] lamont-away: -4.4 will have a sane, probably buildable config [05:16] cool. [05:18] jbailey: people/~bcollins/2.6.15/ [05:19] powerpc64-smp debs are there [05:21] BenC: Thanks! [05:37] BenC: what are the blockers remaining for updating the metapackages to 2.6.15? [05:37] lrm, and has to be post flight 1 [05:38] infinity is supposed to be working on lrm [05:38] post-fligh1 was Kamion's request [05:38] I would prefer that we transition that to be your responsibility, so that you don't block on someone else for ABI changes and new upstreams [05:38] post-flight1 is fine, but that's today or tomorrow [05:38] (with luck) [05:39] I was under the impression that I needed to be hands-off for lrm [05:39] from whom? [05:56] BenC: have you guys enabled CONFIG_EDD in 2.6.15 [05:56] ? [05:56] it's disabled in breezy [05:56] I just did [05:56] ah, cool [05:56] will be in -4.4 [05:56] static or module? [05:56] module, would static be better? [05:57] doesn't really matter, i was just curious [05:57] it's modular [05:57] (working on parted geometry stuff) === user_ [n=user@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === user_ is now known as jb-770 [06:38] Ben, no worky ;) [06:40] How much of the kernel panic do you want? [06:41] It panics when running hwclock. === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:54] BenC : I don't mind you touching LRM for ABI changes, I was just personally holding off on updating it since I want to shove in shiny new drivers that need a new X (which needs a new glibc, which needs a new binutils) [06:55] BenC : No guarantees that the current source would even build against 2.6.15 right now. If in doubt at all, you may be better off just waiting a day for the other stuff to fall into place. === infinity tries to go back to sleep now. [06:56] infinity: Bah, you don't need sleep. [07:42] It sounds like the new ATI drivers actually do power management properly [07:42] Which is very nice of them [07:43] mjg59: The free ones, or the binary ones? [07:44] The binary ones [07:47] do the binary ATI drivers work on PPC? [07:47] jbailey: any luck with ppc64? [07:48] BenC: crash and burn when setting hwclock [07:48] BenC: I don't think there are ppc binary drivers. [07:48] I wish there were. [07:48] Screen savers would suck so much less. [07:48] hwclock huh...let me check the config's [07:49] yeah, my screen saver shows some weird white lines brushing to the left of the images === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-084-059-099-041.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:08] jbailey: ping [11:08] BenC: pong [11:08] jbailey: were you able to get the panic from the ppc64 test? [11:09] BenC: Eh, I had asked you which part you needed, I hadn't seen an answer. [11:09] I can reboot and get it easily enough. [11:09] I totally missed where you came on as jb-770 [11:09] Ah, sorry. =) [11:09] Lemme reboot to catch that. [11:10] nah, was my fault, if you get a chance to get it, just email it, to bmc@visi.net (regular email is down) [11:13] Lets give this a try. [11:14] No serial console on the ppc64 box any parts you want in particular? [11:14] Or should I copy all of it? [11:17] I should probably figure out the oops catcher at some point. === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel