[01:41] <BenC> lamont-away: ping
[01:44] <lamont-away> BenC: I have about 30 seconds - wassup?
[01:44] <BenC> lamont-away: good news, ia64 failed immediately when oldconfig ran :)
[01:44] <lamont-away> heh
[01:44] <BenC> just wanted to pass that on
[01:44] <lamont-away> right. I'll add that right ahead of hppa then.
[01:45] <lamont-away> anyway, need to run.  back in a few hours.
[01:45] <lamont-away> and yes, I'll read scrollback
[01:45] <BenC> I have an ia64 with ubuntu, but I need to update it and get it running again
[01:45] <BenC> later
[04:41] <Yagisan> BenC ping
[04:41] <BenC> Yagisan: pong
[04:42] <Yagisan> BenC: This bug http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9972 is confirmed on breezy
[04:42] <Yagisan> BenC: rtl-8139 doesn't handle buggy acpi gracefully
[04:43] <BenC> Yagisan: ok, please email me back about that
[04:43] <BenC> I'm about to go to bed
[04:44] <Yagisan> BenC: no worries, I just got the bugzilla email
[06:43] <fabbione> BenC: the sparc build loops the same way as the others btw
[08:09] <fabbione> BenC: never mind.. that was with 2.2
[08:09] <fabbione> gonna test build 3.3 soon
[09:02] <fabbione> BenC: -> #ubuntu-meeting
[02:01] <jbailey> BenC: Got a kernel you want tested on ppc64 before I settle in?
[02:02] <BenC> jbailey: I will in about 10 minutes
[02:02] <jbailey> BenC: 
[02:02] <jbailey> 'ksy
[02:02] <jbailey> 'kay
[02:02] <jbailey> I'll avoid settling in until then. =)
[02:04] <fabbione> hey BenC 
[02:04] <BenC> hey
[02:05] <BenC> I missed the dev meeting :/
[02:05] <fabbione> yes
[02:05] <BenC> had my days all mixed up
[02:05] <fabbione> follow up with JaneW
[02:06] <BenC> fabbione: are you doing a security compile on davis?
[02:06] <fabbione> yes
[02:06] <fabbione> i can slow down if you need
[02:06] <BenC> if you can, I'd like to get a kernel for jbailey
[02:07] <BenC> thanks
[02:07] <fabbione> sure
[02:07] <BenC> Load == 322 :)
[02:07] <fabbione> going down now
[02:08] <BenC> my build wouldn't even start after 30 seconds
[02:08] <BenC> thanks, mine starts now
[02:09] <fabbione> BenC: i am down to -j50
[02:09] <CataEnry> hi all
[02:09] <fabbione> you can take the other -j250
[02:10] <jbailey> Dev meeting?
[02:10] <jbailey> Oh hey, it's Thursday.
[02:10] <fabbione> jbailey: Dapper Devel Meeting
[02:10] <BenC> jbailey: first Dapper Development Status was 5 hours ago :)
[02:10] <BenC> cool, I wasn't the only one
[02:10] <BenC> yeah, the day threw me off
[02:10] <jbailey> We can say a void fell over the timezone.
[02:11] <BenC> I knew it was today, but the time was out of whack
[02:11] <jbailey> Or at least, it looked all dark outside.  I got scared, hid under the covers.
[02:11] <jbailey> With my eyes closed.
[02:11] <BenC> lol
[02:11] <BenC> I'll claim DST messed me up
[02:11] <jbailey> JaneW: Thats my excuse and I'm sticking too it!
[02:13] <chmj> bah, I missed it also 
[02:14] <chmj> JaneW: I was offline, axxess has authenticaiton problems with the Saix vs IS thing going on 
[02:15] <BenC> we need a cronjob that sends out reminder emails
[02:15] <chmj> I agree 
[02:25] <BenC> jbailey: this is going to take longer than 10 minutes, btw
[02:25] <jbailey> BenC: Is the time still reasonable to measure in minutes?
[02:26] <BenC> probably less than an hour is about as close as I can come
[02:26] <BenC> fabbione and his damned security build is hogging cpu :)
[02:27] <fabbione> BenC: dude.. export CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=250
[02:27] <fabbione> and you are all set to hog 5 times more cpu than me
[02:27] <BenC> ok, I'll let it rip then
[02:28] <BenC> fabbione: I am working on sparc64 config's right now
[02:28] <fabbione> BenC: coolness
[02:28] <BenC> so -4.4 should build on sparc64
[02:29] <fabbione> neat
[02:29] <BenC> going to try to get all the config's atleast "buildable"
[02:30] <fabbione> lamont was mumbling something about hppa 
[02:40] <BenC> great, still linker errors with ppc64
[02:40] <BenC> there's no end to the madness
[02:42] <fabbione> do you prefer to -security? ;)
[02:43] <BenC> think I'll pass :)
[02:44] <fabbione> BenC: i was thinking that it might be a good idea to start making debian/changelog a changelog again.. or somehow slam git log diff between releases somewhere
[02:44] <jbailey> BenC: What linker errors?  Is it related the the binutils breakage?
[02:45] <fabbione> given .15 initial fun is finished.. we should turn it into something more serious
[02:45] <fabbione> and get proper release names from JaneW :P
[02:45] <BenC> jbailey: I've no idea really
[02:45] <BenC> fabbione: yeah, I've been more detailed in my recent changelog entries after -1.1
[02:46] <BenC> but something automated to take line 1 from git-log would be nice
[02:46] <BenC> fabbione: I was thinking of using Linus' shortlog (in git) to create something to include with normal changelog
[02:46] <fabbione> exactly
[02:47] <fabbione> we need to keep in mind two things:
[02:47] <fabbione> * we need make git reverse $id something "simple" for non-kernel team people
[02:47] <fabbione> * we might die now and nobody would know how to do it
[02:47] <fabbione> it was easy with dpatch
[02:48] <BenC> it's easy with git too
[02:48] <fabbione> but we need to find the same compromise with git
[02:48] <fabbione> yeah
[02:48] <BenC> but it wont be a "here are the patches, here's the description of each one" kind of thing
[02:48] <BenC> just a running changelog
[02:48] <fabbione> i was more thinking like:
[02:49] <fabbione> Changes by BenC:
[02:49] <fabbione>  * add foo:
[02:49] <BenC> yeah, the git-log shortlog will do that
[02:49] <fabbione>     - changeset IDS:
[02:49] <fabbione> without extra info on why there are for ex 10 changests 
[02:49] <BenC> changeset IDS will be a 64-bit SHA hash :)
[02:49] <fabbione> that's fine
[02:49] <fabbione> but i can just say
[02:50] <fabbione> for i in $id[1]  $[2] ; do git revert $i; done
[02:50] <fabbione> that would make it fairly trivial to revert stuff
[02:57] <CataEnry> bye all
[03:23] <fabbione> BenC: did you finish your build on davis?
[03:24] <BenC> yeah, ppc64 isn't going to happen
[03:26] <fabbione> uh?
[03:26] <fabbione> why not?
[03:27] <BenC> binutils failures
[03:27] <BenC> really odd linker failures for ppc64
[03:28] <fabbione> ah
[03:28] <fabbione> ok
[03:29] <BenC> ~bcollins/build.log if you want to take a look
[03:30] <fabbione> on davis?
[03:31] <fabbione> uh yeah
[03:31] <fabbione> here it is
[03:32] <fabbione> *cough*binutils die!*cough*
[03:32] <BenC> jbailey says the linker messages are just warnings
[03:33] <BenC> if so, I can fix the missing symbols and get a build
[03:33] <fabbione> i assume it's still worth to give it a shot
[03:33] <jbailey> It'll keep me from pouting at him. ;)
[03:39] <BenC> I'll keep working on it
[03:39] <fabbione> ok
[03:39] <fabbione> warty build is done
[03:39] <fabbione> i am going to set a low CONC_LEVEL for hoary
[03:39] <fabbione> so you have more machine power
[03:45] <BenC> found the problem with the missing symbols
[03:46] <BenC> some of the video drivers use nvram, but the video is built-in, and nvram is modular
[03:46] <BenC> the easy fix is to make nvram built-in, but I want to do the right thing and make kconfig handle this
[03:48] <mjg59> Some of the video drivers use nvram? Wow.
[03:48] <BenC> not sure if there's a way to say "if CONFIG_FB_MATROX=y, and CONFIG_NVRAM, make CONFIG_NVRAM=y"
[03:48] <BenC> yeah, like 4 or 5 of them
[03:48] <BenC> they don't require it, but if nvram is configured, they use it
[03:48] <mjg59> Oh, right
[03:48] <mjg59> How weird
[03:49] <BenC> need a weak dep between the video drivers and nvram, but this may be a lost cause
[03:49] <mjg59> Oh, only on PPC?
[03:49] <mjg59> That makes more sense
[03:50] <BenC> nvram is generic, but I think the video stuff is more geared toward ppc, yes
[03:52] <BenC> oh, interesting, CONFIG_NVRAM isn't even on ppc64
[03:52] <BenC> so I just need some ifdef's
[03:58] <zul> heylo
[03:59] <jbailey> Zoool
[04:02] <zul_^> that was weird
[04:02] <zul_^> i got hit in the face with a soccer ball last night
[04:02] <zul_^> it was kind of bradyesque
[04:03] <jbailey> And this is cuasing you to spawn yourself multiple times?
[04:03] <BenC> did your nose swell to the size of the ball?
[04:03] <jbailey> And is "bradyesque" your way of saying they'll be nine of you in a moment?
[04:03] <BenC> and did you have to miss the big dance? :)
[04:04] <zul_^> bastards..
[04:05] <fabbione> hey zul
[04:05] <fabbione> later guys
[04:05] <BenC> later
[04:05] <zul_^> later
[04:09] <BenC> sweet, all the linker warnings aside, I now have a ppc64 vmlinux
[04:10] <zul_^> nifty
[04:10] <BenC> jbailey: I should have a kernel for you soon now
[04:11] <jbailey> BenC: It's passed that point this time?
[04:11] <BenC> yeah, it's on to modules now
[04:11] <BenC> missing symbols there wont cause it to fail to make a .deb, so I think we're clear for a test
[04:11] <jbailey> woohoo =)
[04:26] <zul_^> BenC: psst..my patches ;)
[04:31] <mjg59> Can we have CONFIG_EDD on pls k thx?
[04:45] <BenC> zul_^: yeah, I have them, just need to merge them
[04:45] <BenC> trying to get as many arch's building as possible so people can start testing
[04:50] <BenC> mjg59: i386 and amd64?
[04:50] <mjg59> BenC: Yeah
[04:50] <BenC> ok, done
[04:50] <BenC> does it need to be =y or is =m ok?
[04:54] <jbailey> BenC: I'm at a good time to test ppc64.  Is it ready?  If not, i'll check in after lunch.
[04:54] <BenC> it's doing the dpkg-deb right now
[04:55] <jbailey> Nice timing. =)
[04:55] <BenC> less than 5 minutes
[04:55] <BenC> yes, perfect :)
[05:05] <mjg59> BenC: =m should be fine, I think (though it's a fairly tiny amount of code)
[05:15] <lamont-away> Automatically append version information to the version string (LOCALVERSION_AUTO) [Y/n/?]  (NEW) aborted!
[05:15] <lamont-away> Console input is closed. Run 'make oldconfig' to update configuration.
[05:15] <BenC> lamont-away: -4.4 will have a sane, probably buildable config
[05:16] <lamont-away> cool.
[05:18] <BenC> jbailey: people/~bcollins/2.6.15/
[05:19] <BenC> powerpc64-smp debs are there
[05:21] <jbailey> BenC: Thanks!
[05:37] <mdz> BenC: what are the blockers remaining for updating the metapackages to 2.6.15?
[05:37] <BenC> lrm, and has to be post flight 1
[05:38] <BenC> infinity is supposed to be working on lrm
[05:38] <BenC> post-fligh1 was Kamion's request
[05:38] <mdz> I would prefer that we transition that to be your responsibility, so that you don't block on someone else for ABI changes and new upstreams
[05:38] <mdz> post-flight1 is fine, but that's today or tomorrow
[05:38] <mdz> (with luck)
[05:39] <BenC> I was under the impression that I needed to be hands-off for lrm
[05:39] <mdz> from whom?
[05:56] <dilinger> BenC: have you guys enabled CONFIG_EDD in 2.6.15
[05:56] <dilinger> ?
[05:56] <dilinger> it's disabled in breezy
[05:56] <BenC> I just did
[05:56] <dilinger> ah, cool
[05:56] <BenC> will be in -4.4
[05:56] <dilinger> static or module?
[05:56] <BenC> module, would static be better?
[05:57] <dilinger> doesn't really matter, i was just curious
[05:57] <BenC> it's modular
[05:57] <dilinger> (working on parted geometry stuff)
[06:38] <jb-770> Ben, no  worky ;)
[06:40] <jb-770> How much of the kernel panic do you want?
[06:41] <jb-770> It panics when running hwclock.
[06:54] <infinity> BenC : I don't mind you touching LRM for ABI changes, I was just personally holding off on updating it since I want to shove in shiny new drivers that need a new X (which needs a new glibc, which needs a new binutils)
[06:55] <infinity> BenC : No guarantees that the current source would even build against 2.6.15 right now.  If in doubt at all, you may be better off just waiting a day for the other stuff to fall into place.
[06:56] <jbailey> infinity: Bah, you don't need sleep.
[07:42] <mjg59> It sounds like the new ATI drivers actually do power management properly
[07:42] <mjg59> Which is very nice of them
[07:43] <jbailey> mjg59: The free ones, or the binary ones?
[07:44] <mjg59> The binary ones
[07:47] <BenC> do the binary ATI drivers work on PPC?
[07:47] <BenC> jbailey: any luck with ppc64?
[07:48] <jbailey> BenC: crash and burn when setting hwclock
[07:48] <jbailey> BenC: I don't think there are ppc binary drivers.
[07:48] <jbailey> I wish there were.
[07:48] <jbailey> Screen savers would suck so much less.
[07:48] <BenC> hwclock huh...let me check the config's
[07:49] <BenC> yeah, my screen saver shows some weird white lines brushing to the left of the images
[11:08] <BenC> jbailey: ping
[11:08] <jbailey> BenC: pong
[11:08] <BenC> jbailey: were you able to get the panic from the ppc64 test?
[11:09] <jbailey> BenC: Eh, I had asked you which part you needed, I hadn't seen an answer.
[11:09] <jbailey> I can reboot and get it easily enough.
[11:09] <BenC> I totally missed where you came on as jb-770
[11:09] <jbailey> Ah, sorry. =)
[11:09] <jbailey> Lemme reboot to catch that.
[11:10] <BenC> nah, was my fault, if you get a chance to get it, just email it, to bmc@visi.net (regular email is down)
[11:13] <jb-770> Lets give this a try.
[11:14] <jb-770> No serial console on the ppc64 box any parts you want in particular?
[11:14] <jb-770> Or should  I copy all of it?
[11:17] <jb-770> I should probably figure out the oops catcher at some point.