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Nafallobmonty_laptop: finally uploaded. don't know what's with my upload bandwidth :-P.12:05
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minghuabmonty_laptop: I noticed that uim maintainer dropped the pm-dev build dependency.  Thanks for pushing this. :-)12:07
bmonty_laptopminghua: no problem12:07
siretartgn8 folks!12:07
bmonty_laptopI just pointed out to him that there was no source file in the package that used the header file pm-dev provided12:07
sistpotygn8 siretart12:07
bmonty_laptopbye siretart12:08
bmonty_laptopNafallo: thanks12:08
minghuasistpoty: good night12:08
minghuaoops, good night to siretart12:08
minghuahmm, irssi sees to have different nick auto-completion than others12:09
minghuas/sees/seems/12:09
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KyralHey guys, does anyone know of a problem with the Build-Essential package in Breezy?12:35
Nafallothere is no problems? :-)12:36
crimsunin breezy? there's no problem12:36
KyralThere is it seems12:36
tsengWFM12:36
KyralEither this guy I was helping on the Forums12:36
tsengbut please tell ask us instead of asking to ask12:36
Kyralreally really screwed up12:36
KyralWFM?12:37
crimsunI'm going to go out on a short limb and say that guy screwed his own sources.list12:37
tsengWorks For Me (And Everyone Else But You) TM12:37
Kyraltseng, I can't tell people on the UbuntuForums that12:38
crimsunbut you can help him troubleshoot his sources.list, because that's obviously where it started12:38
KyralWhich I have tried12:38
KyralWe commented out anything that looked sketchy (which was basically the PLF repo)12:39
crimsunoh geez12:39
crimsuncomment out everything that isn't *.archive.ubuntu.com12:39
Kyralwe did12:39
Kyralthe PLF repo was the only sketchy thing12:39
crimsunthen forcibly remove/downgrade everything to stock breezy12:40
Kyral-f install should do that correct?12:40
crimsunno, you need to use apt-pinning12:40
crimsunpin-priority >1000 the breezy repo12:40
KyralI'll look into it12:41
crimsunthen dist-upgrade12:41
crimsunpeople get all sorts of random fsckedness when they use external repos12:41
Kyralbut anything from the PLF repo shouldn't interfere with build-essiential right? (I'm not familier with the PLF repo)12:41
crimsunI have never touched PLF, so I have no idea12:42
KyralIts basically the storehouse for things like w32codecs it seems12:42
Nafalloouch12:42
Kyralheck its in that Script-O-Matic that someone whipped up12:42
Nafalloan illegal repo.12:42
Kyralyah no kiddin'12:43
tsengyeah it sounds alot like BreakMyGentoo12:43
KyralI don't touch it12:43
KyralI advise against it whenever I see it, so I don't have to fix it later12:43
tsengi can only find a mandrake plf12:44
tsengbesides the obvious terror organization12:44
tsengpretty disingenuous to name yourself after them12:44
Kyraldeb http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free <--The line in question12:44
Nafallohehe12:44
Kyralits commented out12:45
tseng"free"12:45
tsengits not even available12:45
Nafalloin this case it might not be a bad name it seems :-P12:45
KyralYah its down now, seems like a recent turn12:45
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LaserJockI think plf is the backports-extra replacement12:49
Kyralhey LJ12:50
LaserJockhi Kyral12:50
KyralFlowDesigner devs haven't emailed me back about the problems with libflow12:50
LaserJockKyral: hmm, I didn't know you were having a problem12:51
KyralIt builds, but lintain complains like CRAZY about somethings12:51
bmonty_laptopHey LaserJock12:51
LaserJockKyral: the NMU stuff?12:51
LaserJockHi bmonty_laptop12:51
KyralLaserJock, no12:52
Kyrallibflow.so is in the wrong place, and its causing Lintain to throw fits12:52
LaserJockKyral: oh, ok. and it's something that requires upstream to fix?12:53
Kyralyah it requires messing with the source12:53
LaserJockKyral: seems like they were pretty eager to help so hopefully you will hear from them soon12:54
LaserJockI am currently working on a script similar to lucas's to show us the Ubuntu and Debian version of source packages in the math, science, and tex sections12:56
lucasLaserJock: what do you mean "script similar to mine" ?12:56
lucasmaybe you can explain why mine didn't work for you, so I can improve it instead :)12:57
LaserJocklucas: well, it gets the package name, version, and section and will hopefully create a .html similar to yours12:57
LaserJocklucas: well, what I am trying to do is sort by section12:57
lucasah12:58
LaserJocklucas: and learn python along the way12:58
LaserJockwhat I got so far is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/464912:59
LaserJockbut I am getting stuck because it appears that 12 source packages in Ubuntu don't have "Section:" in them12:59
NafalloLaserJock: fix them? compare to Debian?01:00
LaserJockNafallo: well, I have to figure out how to tell which ones are the problem01:01
Nafallohm, true01:02
LaserJockNafallo: And I don't have enough scripting knowledge to figure it out yet01:02
Nafallocan't you just output two lists (one with everything except the faulty ones and one with everything) and diff? :-)01:04
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lucasarg01:06
lucasgot disconnected just when I was answering01:06
lucas[00:58:04]  <LaserJock> lucas: and learn python along the way01:06
lucas[00:58:32]  <lucas> you just have to change pkglist_from_rdepends.bash by your pkglist_from_section.bash01:06
lucas[00:58:59]  <lucas> if you do that, you can you all my other scripts01:06
lucas[01:02:17]  <lucas> grep-dctrl -F section 'math' -o -F section 'science' -o -F section 'tex' -ns Package /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.oleane.net_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages01:06
lucas[01:02:43]  <lucas> this does your "get all binary packages with section in ('math', 'science', 'tex')01:06
lucasdid I miss sthing ?01:06
LaserJocklucas: interesting, I'm not sure what to think. I started this before I learned of you script and I wanted to do everything in Python01:08
lucasLaserJock: I think the best way to deal with that is with small shell scripts that do one thing and do it well01:09
lucasbecause everybody has different needs01:09
sistpotygood night everybody01:10
LaserJockright, this was for my own internal consumption though. I don't plan on replacing anything of yours01:10
lucasLaserJock: but still, you can rewrite some of my own scripts in python01:10
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chxhi. is there a fresh bzr package somewhere? 0.1.1-0ubuntu1 is ancient02:03
ograchx, deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/snapshot/bzr/ ./02:03
ogra(thats dapper though)02:04
chxdapper... will that bzr install then without wanting to upgrade all python packages?02:05
chxoh it works02:06
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zakamemorning all :)02:12
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zakamewb LaserJock02:25
LaserJockzakame: thanks, had dinner and made it home. now I can relax ;-)02:26
zakamegood for you :)02:29
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KyralI love the COSI02:57
zakameCOSI?03:02
Kyralthe Clarkson Open Source Institute03:02
Kyralcosi.clarkson.edu03:02
KyralAlso keeps an Ubuntu Mirror :D03:04
LaserJockdoes anybody here use vim?03:04
Kyralhsss boo! ;P03:04
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LaserJockKyral: yeah, yeah I know03:05
LaserJockI can't figure out how to do a search&replace03:05
tseng:s/foo/bar03:06
tsengvimtutor, lesson 4.403:06
LaserJocktseng: hmm, all I get is "pattern not found". I can just do a search and it works fine03:06
tsengyes, read the doc please03:07
LaserJocktseng: thanks, weird, but it works03:11
tsengits not that weird03:11
tsengvery similar to sed or any other regex03:11
LaserJocktseng: it just seems weird to me that I have to select all the text before I can do a replace03:12
LaserJockbut I'm just learning vi so maybe my mind isn't wraped around it yet03:12
tseng     Type   :%s/old/new/g    to change every occurrence in the whole file.03:12
tsengi dont see *anything* about selecting text03:13
LaserJockwell, that is what was in vimtutor lesson 4.4 I thought03:14
tsengno, you move the cursor to the line03:14
tsengtip03:14
tsengto repeat the replace on another line move the cursor there03:14
tsengand press & in normal mode03:15
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LaserJockcool03:15
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minghuatseng: nice tip03:19
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jbaileychillywilly: I added dyfet to the Ubuntu marketplace earlier.03:27
jbaileyHe's interested in hacking on Bayonne in Ubuntu. =)03:27
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LaserJockhi tritium03:50
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tritiumhi LaserJock03:51
LaserJocktritium: been staying busy?03:51
tritiumLaserJock: yes, putting in long hours at work, and many projects around the house (repairs after renting it out while in grad. school).  You?03:52
tritiumLaserJock: and today, this Canonical laptop's hard drive died03:53
LaserJocktritium: about the same. I have been trying to landscape the back yard a bit. Are you at sandia?03:53
tritiumLaserJock: yes, how did you know?03:54
LaserJocktritium: don't remember. I think you said one time here. I visited Sandia at Livermore once03:55
LaserJocktritium: my lab has a collaboration there03:55
tritiumLaserJock: oh, okay.  Cool.03:55
LaserJocktritium: your Sandia is much bigger isn't it?03:55
tritiumLaserJock: yes03:57
LaserJocktritium: I have thought about doing a post doc at a national lab but I don't know if I could get used to all the security03:58
tritiumLaserJock: it takes some getting used to03:59
LaserJocktritium: when I was a Sandia-Livermore (not  sure what it is called) it took a repair man over 2 hrs to get throught the gate because they had to take every piece of equipment out of his service truck and check it out04:01
tritiumLaserJock: not surprising04:02
LaserJocktritium: but the pay seemed better than an academic postdoc ;-)04:02
tritiumyes04:03
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LaserJockKyral: ping?04:29
KyralPONG!04:29
Kyralsup04:29
LaserJockKyral: I am trying to set up a couple different pbuilders.04:29
Kyralyah...I gotta get to appending the PBuilderHowto don't I04:30
LaserJockKyral: I am unsure of how to seperate the pbuilderrc files. It seems to alway look for ~/.pbuilderrc04:30
Kyralthats just a pain in the arse04:31
LaserJockno matter what I put for --configfile04:31
KyralYah it gives me that warning too04:31
Kyralbut it still abides by the configfile I give04:31
LaserJockso I can ignore it?04:31
Kyralyah04:32
KyralIts just a warning not an error04:32
LaserJockah, ok04:32
KyralActually I have to go update my Pbuilders04:32
Kyral1 alias for 6 commands04:33
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KyralUbuntu Breezy, Ubuntu Dapper, Debian Sid, Debian Sarge, Debian Etch04:38
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KyralAnyone know if Emacs has a function to link a file you are working on to one on a remote server and upload the file to the remote server when you save it?05:04
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KyralOr do I get the honor of writing this plugin :D05:07
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LaserJockKyral: do you have a minute to help me with my pbuilders?05:28
Kyralyah05:28
LaserJockKyral: ok, I think I got breezy and dapper ok, but now I want a sid pbuilder05:28
KyralOh LJ, when are we gonna start working on the Ubuntu Packaging Guide?05:28
KyralLJ you are gonna have to create a Sarge PBuilder and upgrade that oen05:29
crimsunLaserJock: so either specify sid lines in your pbuilder config's sources.list, or pass the distribution explicitly to pbuilder05:29
LaserJockKyral: hmm, well that is kinda up in the air right now. I was supposed to get Unfrgiven's guide but I haven't heard from him in a while05:29
LaserJockso do I need sources.list files for each distro?05:30
KyralI just make separate apt.configs05:30
minghuasid is usually not debootstrapable though05:30
Kyralthats what I do, and I find it very easy to manage everything05:30
Kyralthats why I said make a Sarge PBuilder and upgrade it05:30
crimsunfor maintainability I'd say it's a good idea but don't necessary _have_ to have them for bootstrapping05:30
LaserJockKyral: ok, that is what I have. and also seperate pbuilderrc's?05:31
crimsunright, sid is like dapper in that sense05:31
minghuaand now is really a bad time to build stuff in sid, due to the C++ ABI change05:31
crimsunyeah on multiple fronts :-)05:31
LaserJockI am confused because it seems pbuilder looks at /etc/pbuilderrc, ~/.pbuilderrc, and my own ~/.pbuilder/distro/pbuilderrc files05:32
KyralUnless you override with --configfile05:33
LaserJockKyral: well I had to change /etc/pbuilderrc even when I had --configfile. It looked like it was reading both05:34
KyralI just made copies of pbuilderrc for each one05:34
Kyralnot to mention I flat out deleted the original05:35
LaserJockKyral: I have copies of pbuilderrc for each distro, but I didn't delete the one in /etc05:35
KyralIronically it somehow symlinked the one in etc to one of my custom pbuilderrcs05:35
LaserJockKyral: It seems that it just doesn't like having multiple .pbuilderrc's laying around05:36
LaserJockKyral: ok, so do I need to make a pbuilderrc for sarge and another pbuilderrc for sid?05:37
LaserJockI guess I could just change one pbuilderrc05:38
crimsunI have three different pbuilder rcs05:38
crimsun~/.pbuilderrc{.warty,hoary,breezy}05:39
crimsunerr, four05:39
crimsun(the one without an extension in breezy dist-upgraded to dapper)05:39
KyralI keep them in /etc/pbuilder/05:39
LaserJockcrimsun: do you have a apt.config for each?05:40
crimsunLaserJock: separate directories, yes05:40
crimsun~/porting/builder/$foo05:40
LaserJockcrimsun: ok, that is about what I have. I have ~.pbuilder/{breezy,dapper,sid}/{pbuilderrc, apt.config/}05:42
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LaserJockhmm, I still don't understand --distribution and --override-config are for when you have --configfile05:43
Kyral--override-config is for when you make a change to something in that PBuilder's apt.config05:46
Kyrallike if you change the Sources.list to use a different mirror05:46
KyralI should code a Space Invaders for Emacs :D05:51
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KyralNight all06:07
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zakamehmm, is libjack0.80.0-dev dropped in dapper?08:38
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crimsunzakame: yes.08:40
zakamecrimsun: I see only libjack0.100.0-dev , but linphone build-deps on libjack0.80.0-dev... guess I have to update debian/control...08:40
crimsunyes, you do08:40
zakameokey thanks :)08:41
crimsunwe need to do a mini-transition on everything that b-ds on libjack0.80.0-dev | libjack-dev08:41
crimsunthey need to be explicitly updated to libjack0.100.0-dev08:41
zakamedropping the `| libjack-dev' part?08:41
crimsunhmm.08:42
crimsunwe differ a bit from Debian in this regard08:42
crimsunWe don't have a libjack0.80.0-dev anymore, so we _could_ leave | libjack-dev.08:42
crimsunhowever, the transition in Debian was to explicitly b-d on libjack0.100.0-dev08:43
crimsunso we should follow Debian08:43
zakameah, okey :D08:43
slomo_hi zakame, hi crimsun :)08:43
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zakameei slomo_ :D08:44
crimsunhi slomo_, zakame :-)08:45
zakameei crimsun :)08:46
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dholbachgood morning08:51
slomo_hi dholbach08:52
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zakameheya dholbach08:52
dholbachhey zakame, slomo_08:52
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mitsuhiko^schoolmoin09:10
mitsuhiko^schoolcan anyone tell my why liblinc isn't available in breezy?09:10
zakamehi mitsuhiko^school09:10
mitsuhiko^schoolhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/libs/liblinc1 <-- hoary has it09:10
zakamewb Nafallo09:11
mitsuhiko^schoolhi zakame09:11
Nafallothanx09:12
mitsuhiko^schoolother packages reference it, but it doesn't exist in breezy09:12
crimsunit was removed09:12
crimsunnotice it's not in Debian either09:13
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Gloubiboulgahello09:13
mitsuhiko^schoolcrimsun: so the only solution is to use the hoary version?09:13
zakamehi Gloubiboulga09:14
crimsunmitsuhiko^school: no, check if upstream has obsoleted it with a new package09:14
crimsunif so, check if it's in the distro09:14
crimsunif not, work to NEW it09:14
mitsuhiko^schoolcrimsun: where can i check this?09:16
crimsunmitsuhiko^school: check what?09:16
mitsuhiko^schoolcrimsun: it upstream has obsoleted it09:16
crimsunmitsuhiko^school: check upstream's [old]  Web site09:16
crimsundebian/copyright should have a url09:17
mitsuhiko^schoolok. thx09:17
mitsuhiko^schoolcrimsun: i can't find a note that this packages is deprecated or something similar :(09:22
crimsunmitsuhiko^school: then you will have to use the hoary version.09:23
mitsuhiko^schoolbad news09:24
lucasI started working on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTools09:26
lucasplease review & comment & modify etc09:26
crimsunmm gdebi->universe possibly09:31
crimsunthat sounds tasty09:31
dholbach:)09:31
crimsunmorning, dholbach :)09:31
dholbachhi crimsun :)09:32
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sivangmorning dholbach09:36
sivang(and everyone else)09:36
crimsunhi sivang09:36
zakamehi siretart09:37
zakameand sivang09:37
GloubiboulgaCould anyone have a look at my Denemo package on revu ?09:42
crimsun(~15 minutes, meeting in progress)09:43
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zakamecan someone please check Malone #4094 and #4095 , linphone and lostirc debdiffs, PendingUpload? thanks in advance :)09:54
UbugtuError: Could not parse XML returned by Malone bugzilla: Connection to Malone bugzilla failed: HTTP Error 404: Not Found09:54
crimsunzakame: sure, a few more minutes remaining in the meeting.09:54
zakamecrimsun: many thanks :)09:55
crimsunbinutils cvs => new glibc ...09:59
crimsunsomething tells me I had better do a system snapshot TODAY.09:59
Nafallo:-)10:00
slomo_crimsun: hehe, same thought here ;)10:00
slomo_*sigh* every package i choose to merge depends on something in main to be merged first which itself has some problems...10:02
dholbachslomo_: i can sponsor you uploads10:04
slomo_dholbach: i can't merge the packages because the problems seem to be too hard *shrug* i'll simply do other stuff before ;)10:05
Nafalloslomo: what packages?10:05
dholbachi just want to offer it to you10:05
slomo_dholbach: i know... thanks :)10:06
dholbachif there's a problem in main and you (everybody) can fix it, i will gladly sponsor the upload, if that makes things better10:06
slomo_Nafallo: gjdoc for example... FTBFS because of ICE10:06
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crimsunslomo_: out of curiosity, have we seen any movement on binary-promoting libpostproc-dev (from ffmpeg) to universe?10:07
crimsunit's holding up a vlc merge10:07
dholbachcrimsun: was there a main inclusion report?10:07
Nafalloouch10:08
slomo_crimsun: no, elmo ignores me except for syncs :(10:09
crimsundholbach: err, afaik ffmpeg source remains in universe with its binary packages being split across universe (libavcodec-dev, libavformat-dev, ffmpeg) and multiverse (libpostproc-dev)10:09
slomo_dholbach: one part of it is in multiverse... caused by a mistake10:09
dholbachcrimsun: oh sorry, i misunderstood, nevermind10:09
crimsundholbach: np10:10
slomo_hm, is the dapper kernel built with gcc4? and the sid kernel too?10:12
crimsunyes10:13
crimsunLinux version 2.6.15-3-686 (buildd@vernadsky) (gcc version 4.0.3 20051023 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.2-3ubuntu1)) #1 SMP Thu Nov 17 01:14:29 UTC 200510:13
UbugtuError: Could not parse XML returned by Ubuntu Bugzilla bugzilla: not well-formed (invalid token): line 189, column 110:13
slomo_perfect :)10:14
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slomo_omg10:31
slomo_why does a package invoke automake etc in clean?!10:31
Nafalloslomo: that was I was wondering when moving them to build ;-)10:33
crimsuntimestamp skew?10:37
slomo_crimsun: yes :/10:38
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slomo_hmm, where is zakame? :/10:47
crimsunhis client timed out10:48
crimsunabout 24 minutes ago, apparently10:48
\shmoins10:49
slomo_hi \sh :)10:50
crimsunmoin10:51
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xerxashi11:45
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Nafallocrimsun: are you sponsoring some of those merge-bugs or shall I dig in? :-)12:25
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Riddellis there a motu bugs e-mail list?12:44
dholbachuniverse-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com12:44
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viviersfajmitch, im having problems with grub again lol02:00
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Nafallobmonty_laptop: have you told elmo to sync all of those ASSIGNED you already verified?02:09
Nafallowhere is zakame? :-)02:14
Nafallo-Architecture: any02:15
Nafallo+Architecture: i386 powerpc ia64 amd64 alpha arm mipsel hurd-i38602:15
Nafallo^ that just looks wrong, no?02:15
Mithrandirno, it means it's not kfreebsd-i386 for instance.02:24
Mithrandirand not m68k02:24
Nafallowe don't have that one :-)02:24
Mithrandirand not s39002:24
Nafallonot those either.02:24
Mithrandirwe do have hppa, though02:24
Mithrandirwhich is not in the list either02:24
Nafallooh, the inofficals. I always forget about those.02:25
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bmonty_laptopNafallo: I've sent elmo emails on syncing the packages I marked for sync02:35
Nafallobmonty_laptop: ah, oki.02:38
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bmonty_laptopNafallo: also, I'm assuming you uploaded the falconseye package...I made a mistake and didn't mark it as dapper so it was REJECTED02:38
bmonty_laptopI'll upload the new debdiff in a few02:38
Nafallooki02:39
bmonty_laptopNafallo: I guess I can give him that huge list of packages in IRC :)02:39
KyralMornin'02:39
bmonty_laptophi Kyral02:39
Nafallobmonty_laptop: btw, was breezy -> dapper the only mistake? :-)02:41
Nafallounstable even02:42
bmonty_laptopNafallo: as far as I am aware, yes02:42
bmonty_laptopdid you find another ?02:42
Nafallobmonty_laptop: nope, but I can do that change locally ;-)02:43
bmonty_laptopok, I've got the debdiff almost done if you want it02:44
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Nafallofeel free to upload, but I've already given the fixed version to my pbuilder :-)02:46
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bmonty_laptopok, I'll just put it there for completeness :)02:47
zakamehi all02:48
bmonty_laptophi zakame02:48
zakamehey bmonty_laptop, how's the merge going ? :)02:48
Nafallohi zakame02:48
bmonty_laptopthe merge is *REALLY* fun...you should help :)02:48
zakamehi Nafallo :D thanks for another upload :)02:49
zakamebmonty_laptop: hihi, I am on the merging too, even though I'm just on dialup :)02:50
Nafallozakame: no problem :-)02:50
bmonty_laptopzakame: ahh, dialup would be a limiting factor02:50
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zakamebmonty_laptop: yup... nevertheless, its fun though, and I learn as I go :)02:51
Kyraldialup is evil02:51
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bmonty_laptopzakame: same here, the value in doing the merges is touching lots of different packages02:51
zakameKyral: which is why I'm seeking bandwith sponsorship :)02:52
Kyral"sponsorship"?02:52
zakamebmonty_laptop: indeed, we get to learn how other people and DDs do stuff :)02:52
Nafallodamn02:53
NafalloI should have updated Standards-Version on falconseye02:54
KyralI wish I could get the hang of merging02:54
Kyralbut school is more important right now02:54
zakameKyral: hihi... technically I too should be in (este, on) school right now, but without books, I'm still on sem break ;)02:55
KyralSo I'm helping out with insane amounts of support on the Forums02:55
KyralRacked up about 70 posts yesterday I think02:55
zakamewow02:56
Treenaksall reading 'Dude, STFU & RTFM!' ?02:56
Treenaks:P02:56
zakameTreenaks: hihi02:56
KyralHell no02:56
KyralI stabbity anyone that says that02:56
zakameNafallo: can't you re-upload? :)02:56
TreenaksKyral: I tell people to look stuff up in the starter's guide all the time02:56
Nafallozakame: I'm lazy02:56
TreenaksKyral: because I'm not copy/pasting it for them02:57
zakamehaha02:57
KyralTreenaks, so do I, but I don't exactly tell the to RTFM :P02:57
KyralI do, but in a much nicer way :D02:57
TreenaksKyral: RTFM -> read THIS (specific) F M02:57
KyralIts usually something like "I believe this link will be most helpful" <insert link here>02:58
KyralAnyway I must be off03:01
zakamebye Kyral03:01
KyralNeed food before class or else I'm like a computer w/o a power supply03:01
zakamehaha03:03
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sistpotyhi folks03:06
bmonty_laptophey sistpoty03:06
zakameheya sistpoty :)03:06
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sistpotyping slomo | siretart | \sh03:07
Treenaksping s* ? :)03:07
sistpotyhehe03:07
sistpotyactually the pings are or-d... since I need s.o. to upload a package for me (i hope elmo will add my key to the keyring soon)03:08
zakamesistpoty: elmo hasn't added you yet?03:08
sistpotyzakame: no... but I only asked for it last friday (didn't have to upload anything before)03:09
zakameoh03:09
zakameNafallo: can you check my debdiff for linphone too? :)03:12
Nafallozakame: I've almost dput'd it.03:13
zakameNafallo: oh, ok :D03:15
sistpotyNafallo: maybe you could upload s.th. for me?03:16
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Nafallosistpoty: sure :-)03:18
sistpotyNafallo: cool... ghc6 in http://revu.tauware.de/~sistpoty/uploads/ (orig.tar.gz is already in the archives)03:19
Nafallosistpoty: done :-)03:22
sistpotyNafallo: thx :)03:24
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zakamehmmm, is it safe to have a debdiff like 20051029-1 -> 20051029-2ubuntu1 ?03:43
sistpotyzakame: do you mean the version number?03:43
Nafallo20051029-1ubuntu1 probably :-)03:45
zakamesistpoty: yes, this is from ion3... though the REPORT tells that the debian version is 20051029-2, from the raw log MoM got only 20051029-103:45
Nafalloion3 | 20051029-2 | http://localhost unstable/main Sources03:46
Nafalloso yes, 20051029-2ubuntu103:46
sistpotyzakame: if the latest debian version is ...-2, then a merged version should be -2ubuntu1... (higher than last debian version, but always below next possible debian version)03:46
zakamesistpoty: ok... seems that mom pulled the wrong debian base03:47
zakameI also checked the [bcd]  logs and there was no rebuild of it, basing from the morgue03:47
\shhmmm03:48
\shgrep: /var/cache/pbuilder/build//9902/etc/shadow: No such file or directory03:48
\sh/var/cache/pbuilder/build/9902/etc/shadow03:48
\shmv: cannot stat `/var/cache/pbuilder/build/9902/etc/shadow': No such file or directory03:48
\shstrange03:48
\shit happend first time now...after I switched to dapper03:48
Nafallo\sh: sudo pbuilder login --save-after-login03:49
Nafallo\sh: touch /etc/shadow03:49
sistpoty' \sh: i heard last night in devel, that they are working on this ;)03:49
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sistpotythat's why i don't update my pbuilder currently *g*03:49
\shuh..so it's not a broken pbuilder03:49
sistpotyno03:50
zakame\sh: I also got that too just recently while pbuilding lighty03:50
\shNafallo: thx03:50
Nafallonp03:50
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zakamehmm, seems mom's merged.patch for ion3's too much...03:58
Efwishello, I was wondering if you would be interested in having a .deb version of Gnome configurator for the repos?03:59
EfwisI already have it made on my comp03:59
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zakameEfwis: where's this? and what repos?04:00
Efwisfor Breezy repos04:00
EfwisI did the alien command of the rpm it worked fine on my system04:01
Nafallobreezy are closed04:01
Efwisfor 386/686 systems04:01
Nafallowe are now in the dapper development cycle04:01
Amaranthand we only take source packages04:02
EfwisI can get the source for you easy enough04:02
\shEfwis: create a debian package :) and walk the way of a MOTU :)04:03
EfwisI already have the debian package for COG04:03
Efwisit has everything you need short of the libraries that are needed on the comp04:04
\shEfwis: but you didn't create it with alien, right? u did it manually?04:09
EfwisI have the source in front of me know, I just extracted. that is one of the things I want to learn, but I never got an answer dealing with a file04:10
\shEfwis: so now you have to learn something about debhelper and dh_make and debian package building environments04:11
ograEfwis, see the dh_make part of the debian new maintainer guide04:12
\shEfwis: some pointers...first http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources most important link: debian new maintainer guide04:12
Efwisshow me the way, and I will do my part to help with this great distro. Thius is the first time I used linux but I want to do more then run my bus on it :)04:12
\shEfwis: second: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto (replace all hoary/breezy things with dapper...(if you have dapper running) or update a breezy pbuilder to dapper)04:13
Amaranthis wine compiled with gcc 4?04:13
zakameat last, ion3 debdiff finished.  can someone please check #4092 debdiff PendingUpload :) thanks in advance04:13
\shAmaranth: the last time I compiled it with gcc404:14
Nafallozakame: sure04:15
zakameNafallo: you're my hero :D04:15
Amaranth\sh: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385204:15
Ubugtu`Wine bug #3852: win.c problem with gcc 4.0.1 / Dreamweaver MX 6.1 Product: Wine, Component: wine-user, Severity: normal, Assigned to: wine-bugs@winehq.org, Status: UNCONFIRMED http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385204:16
Amaranthwhoa, me likey Ubugtu`04:16
Nafallobug 409204:16
Ubugtu`Malone bug #4092: ion3: merge new debian version Fix req. for: ion3 (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Merge Team, Status: PendingUpload http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/409204:16
zakamewow, Ubugtu` 's doing good04:16
\shAmaranth: we have a different version...2005072504:16
\shAmaranth: and write them..they should use quanta, or scream or bluefish...so they don't need to buy a coffee machine for their webdevelopment ,)04:18
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zakameNafallo: whoa, forgot that, sorry :(04:19
zakameit was a new debdiff, I should fix my emacs to default the distro to dapper04:20
Nafallodch works for me :-(04:20
Nafallo:-) even04:20
zakameactually dch calls gnuclient, which runs debian-changelog-mode04:21
zakamehmmm one can't delete attachments in lp?04:23
Nafallozakame: ion3 uploading.04:29
zakameNafallo: salamat :)04:30
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Nafallowhat's that? something eatable? :-)04:30
zakameit's `thanks' :)04:30
Nafallooki :-). np.04:31
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hunger_If some aspect of a deb does not work without some other deb installed, is that a recommends or a depends?04:38
Treenakshunger_: some aspect, or all of it?04:38
hunger_A user might configure the first deb to work without the second.04:39
hunger_The default config assumes the second deb to be there though.04:39
zakamehunger_: hmm, that could be a Suggests04:39
zakamehunger_: if the second deb provides functions that are desirable and enhances the first deb, then you could put that up as a Recommends iirc04:40
sistpotyhunger_: looks like a recommends to me... see debian-policy (section 7.2)04:41
hunger_zakame, sistpoty: Thanks!04:41
zakamehunger_: np ;-)04:42
Efwisquick question if I may, do need to download and install dapper. When I went to build the pbuilder file it said it couldn't find /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/dapper04:45
zakameEfwis: DebootstrapHowto04:46
Efwisthanks04:46
marc_I'm getting issues atm trying to download updates from the repo04:46
marc_getting error 100's04:46
zakameEfwis: oops, it's DebootstrapChroot04:48
Efwisok, sorry if I'm asking too many questions but this is the only way so far that I have found to be able to assit in the dev of Ubuntu04:48
ograi think using PbuilderHowto is better ...04:49
ograjust install a breezy pbuilder and upppppppppppgrade that to daper04:49
ograwhoops... kbd error04:49
zakameogra: I agree :)04:49
EfwisI did that it said I needed the dapper debstrap04:49
Efwisdang keyboard, be glad when i get my new one04:50
ograEfwis, nope, install it for breezy ... then follow the last steps in the howto for upgrading to dapper04:50
Efwisok ty04:50
\shEfwis: do pbuilder --create --distribution breezy...then update your pbuilders sources.list to dapper and pbuilder update04:51
marc_is anyone geting issues with the dapper repo's?04:51
Efwisthanks. working on that now04:51
bmonty_laptopEfwis: once you have a breezy pbuilder installed and working, open /etc/pbuilder/apt.config/sources.list and change all the "breezy" to "dapper"04:51
zakamemarc_: what's your mirror?04:53
marc_archive.ubuntu.com04:53
marc_I'm getting Sub-process gzip returned an error code (100)04:53
zakamehmmm... is this due to an apt-get update?04:54
marc_possibly04:54
bmonty_laptopanyone use a thinkpad and the ipw2200 module?05:06
zakameNafallo: last request for tonight: bug 4096 meld debdiff PendingUpload :) thanks ulit :D05:09
Ubugtu`Malone bug #4096: meld: merge new debian version Fix req. for: meld (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Merge Team, Status: PendingUpload http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/409605:09
siretartsistpoty: whassup?05:10
Nafallozakame: our meld looks newer?05:11
Nafallomeld | 1.1.2-0ubuntu1 | http://localhost dapper/universe Sources05:11
Nafallomeld |    1.1.1-2 | http://localhost unstable/main Sources05:11
zakamehmmm, indeed, it's newer, don't tell me mom borked again on this :(05:11
zakameok, lemme re-debdiff on the new source05:13
sistpotysiretart: unping (i just wanted you to upload a package... but Nafallo already did)05:14
siretartsistpoty: okay05:14
Nafallozakame: why? we are already newer then Debian. no need to merge.05:14
zakameNafallo: ah, ok. nothing to be done then, yay! :D05:15
sivangTreenaks: omg, this is scary http://foodfight.org/about-me :)05:15
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KmirnoHello05:16
dholbachNafallo: we need to merge changes debian made05:16
Kmirnosiretart: Hi ! (it's Mirno)05:16
zakameso I'll just reject 4096 then?05:16
dholbachNafallo: the version number doesn't ensure we merged all changes05:16
zakamedholbach: good point05:16
KmirnoDoes anybody know the Liscence of Opera ?05:16
Kmirnois it freely distribuable ?05:16
Kmirnozakame: heya05:16
Kmirnodholbach: plop05:16
zakameKmirno: ei :D05:17
dholbachKmirno: hi05:17
zakameKmirno: what's up with opera?05:17
Kmirnozakame: i'd liek to know If I should accept Opera in PLF or you gonna get in MOTU really soon ?05:17
siretarthuhu Kmirno05:17
zakameplf?05:18
siretartKmirno: the problem is, that I did not find any redistribution statment of opera05:18
Kmirnosiretart: I'd neither05:18
Tonio_hi05:18
Nafallodholbach: hmm, right. and it seems you either made a typo on the version number or you didn't wrote you took a new upstream version ;-).05:18
Tonio_hi siretart dholbach05:18
siretartKmirno: if there is none, the legal situation is unclear, and I doubt the ftpmasters would accept this05:18
Kmirnosiretart: it looks like this gonna take ages to get in motu if it ever will.  Do you have objections if I add it to PLF ?05:19
zakameei Tonio_05:19
dholbachNafallo: look at the changelog05:19
siretartKmirno: wait. I'll ask in #ubuntu-devel if there are some effords05:19
Nafallodholbach: oh. missed that line, sorry :-). you based your version against what debian has now anyway :-)05:20
zakameNafallo: ok, I'll build a new merge then, reminding to myself I set dapper, not unstable :)05:20
dholbachNafallo: yes :)05:20
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Nafallozakame: no need. dholbach already did the merge it seems ;-).05:20
Kmirnosiretart: ok05:20
Tonio_zakame: ;)05:20
Nafallozakame: http://packages.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/m/meld/meld_1.1.2-0ubuntu1/changelog05:21
zakameNafallo: ah ok :) so I close 4096 as fixed then...05:22
Nafallozakame: sure.05:22
zakameNafallo, dholbach: very well then. :D many, many thanks again! :D05:23
zakameand good night all!05:23
Nafallognight :-)05:23
bmonty_laptopgood night Nafallo05:23
dholbachnight zakame05:24
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bmonty_laptoper...zakame....guess I should read back further :)05:24
Nafallobmonty_laptop: not me, zakame :-)05:24
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sistpotysiretart: can you upload childsplay for me? (orig-tarball needed). see ~sistpoty/public_html/uploads05:26
siretartsistpoty: I'm currently at work, I cannot access my gpg key conviniently05:28
sistpotysiretart: ok, I'll ask s.o. else then ;)05:29
siretartsorry05:29
sistpotynp siretart05:29
sistpotydholbach: would you mind uploading a package for me?05:30
dholbachsistpoty: not at all05:30
sistpotydholbach: if you have access to tiber, it's in ~sistpoty/public_html/uploads05:30
sistpotydholbach: otherwise: http://revu.tauware.de/~sistpoty/uploads/05:31
sistpotydholbach: the package in question is childsplay... orig.tar.gz needed05:31
dholbachorig.tar.gz from where?05:31
dholbachdebian? ours?05:31
dholbachah ok05:31
dholbachsorry :)05:31
sistpotyhehe05:31
Efwishmm, does it usually take this long to check the components on main?05:32
ogradevootstrap ?05:32
ogra*deb05:32
EfwisI had to rebuild the pbuilderrc package, I goofed up the first time05:32
ograyes, it does take quite some time05:32
Efwisok05:33
Efwisglad I'm not doing this on dial-up lol05:33
Kmirnosiretart: okay then I'll come back later to see what you decide for opera05:40
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Tonio_siretart, dholbach : here is the multiple licence sitribution agreement05:43
Tonio_http://composer.opera.com/composer3/agreement.dml05:43
dholbachsistpoty: done06:08
siretartTonio_: thanks for the link06:09
siretartshit, that late, I need to go now06:09
siretartcu tomrrow folks!06:10
sistpotydholbach: thx06:10
sistpotycya siretart06:10
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Tonio_siretart: no pb06:16
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KmirnoTonio_: ping06:22
Kmirnosiretart: hi06:22
Kmirnosiretart: did you see this ? http://composer.opera.com/composer3/agreement.dml06:22
sistpotyKmirno: siretart is off since ~20 mins... but he already knows about this06:23
Kmirnosistpoty: what did he say about it ?06:24
Kmirnosistpoty: MOTU or PLF ? :)06:25
Nafallosistpoty: did you get everything uploaded?06:25
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sistpotyNafallo: till now yes :)06:27
sistpotyKmirno: he said he needed to go then ;) (he didn't say anything bout opera license)06:27
Nafallo:-)06:28
sistpotyKmirno: what do mean with MOTU or PLF?06:28
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Kmirnosistpoty: MOTU is here Universe/Multiverse repositories. PLF are the Ubuntu PLF repositories06:30
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Kmirnosistpoty: Never heard of PLF ?06:31
Kmirnosistpoty: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr/doc/plf (english page)06:31
pefhello !06:31
Kmirnopef: heya06:32
sistpotyKmirno: nope, haven't heard of it (and the link doesn't work)06:34
sistpotyKmirno: ok, found link *G*06:35
Kmirnosistpoty: sorry forgot to ad ".org" to the domain LOL06:35
sistpotyok, gotta go as well... cya later06:39
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Gloubiboulgahi06:48
pefGloubiboulga: heya :)06:48
Gloubiboulgapef: salut !06:49
Riddellam I right in thinking you need your gpg key signed by a known person before you can upload to ubuntu?06:54
dholbachsomebody in the closelyconnected set06:55
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splinuxhi all07:18
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xerxasdoes anybody knows I have this in /etc/fstab:07:24
xerxas/tmp/app/1/image /tmp/app/1 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 007:25
xerxasis it in the initrd ?07:25
xerxasor is it supposed to be an inirtd file ?07:25
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crimsunNafallo: feel free to dig in :-)07:51
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Nafallocrimsun: already did :-).07:57
crimsunNafallo: sure, just reading away messages :-)07:57
Nafallofigured you wasn't here when there was no answer :-)07:58
crimsun:-)07:58
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Nafalloslomo: bug 4545 is daniels boog, right?08:20
Ubugtu`Malone bug #4545: amsn crashes on start-up/won't load Fix req. for: amsn (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Instant Messaging, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/454508:20
slomoNafallo: no idea... what is amsn? ;)08:21
Nafalloslomo: the same error was talked about with emacs and vim on devel yesterday :-)08:22
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slomoNafallo: ok, yes... it his problem ;)08:22
ajmitchhi08:26
dholbachwhey andrew08:26
dholbachwho wanted me to review libloki?08:26
ajmitchhello daniel08:26
dholbachlfittl?08:27
dholbachajmitch: how are you?08:27
ajmitchalive, I think08:27
dholbachthat sounds a bit vague :)08:27
dholbachyou feel vague too?08:28
ajmitchI feel a bit vague this morning ;)08:28
ajmitch~24 hours of flying to get back08:28
dredgouch08:28
dholbachoh yeah, i can imagine08:29
dredgi thought i was bad with 13 hrs08:29
ajmitchso now I have to sit on the sidelines for awhile before I can rejoin MOTU08:29
dredgand 4 days later i'm still out of it08:29
ajmitchheh08:30
ajmitchI got back yesterday morning08:30
dredgthough i've started sleeping properly and i can look at my screens without feeling ill08:30
ajmitch:)08:30
dredgstill waking up hungry at 2am cos my stomach thinks it's lunchtime though.08:31
ajmitchyes, I need to get some food asap :)08:31
ajmitch& I need to start bugging elmo08:31
dredgfood first :)08:32
Nafalloajmitch: bug elmo? :-)08:32
Nafallowhat foolish thing has that man done to anyone?08:32
ajmitchNafallo: I need my gpg key in the keyring08:34
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ajmitchgood to see that there's another small c++ transition to do08:35
Nafallogood? :-)08:35
ajmitchyeah, and \sh is doing all the MOTU work again :)08:35
Nafallohehe08:35
Nafalloslomo: reassign the bug to daniels :-)08:36
Nafallos/n/ned/08:36
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Nafallowb ajmitch :-)08:37
slomoNafallo: no time... please do it ;)08:37
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slomoNafallo: but you'll get a new banshee on saturday after debian finally has gtk# 2.4.008:37
lfittldholbach: How exactly should I mention in the changelog that I want to maintain the package? (concerning your comment on libloki in revu)08:38
Nafalloslomo: yea, reassigned. not reassign :-).08:38
Nafallolfittl: Maintainer: in debian/control08:38
dholbachlfittl: err, no, not stating, that you want to maintain it, just mention more explicitly what you did to it... but that's fine08:38
slomoNafallo: hehe08:39
slomoajmitch: you can kick wavpack from your todo list :)08:39
dholbachlfittl: with the merges going on, you should have an idea, how painful this is... but if you say, that you really want to maintain it, ie: get the bug reports, talk to upstream, get new versions in, merge with debian, ... then that's fine :)08:39
ajmitchslomo: I can probably drop everything from my todo list?08:39
Nafalloyou have an todo-list? :-)08:40
ajmitchsure08:40
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dholbachlfittl: the problem is, whenever there are changes in debian, then we'll want to have them. while i'm strongly in favor of using cdbs, we will always have to carry the delta with us... it was just my question, if you wanted to do that :)08:41
slomoajmitch: um no... sure, you can... but that's the only package which is in already... i talked to lool about gst-plugins support for it and he suggested to me that he can sponsor it08:42
ajmitchso what else have I missed in the tie I've been gone?08:42
lfittldholbach: yep I want to do that, because the debian maintainer does not work much on this package (http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2005/06/msg00133.html)08:42
Nafalloajmitch: I've started actually doing things ;-)08:43
ajmitchNafallo: you were doing things before I left08:43
slomoajmitch: hmm, nothing big happenend imho... oh, i have no time to do anything atm but that's nothing big ;)08:43
dholbachlfittl: i see08:43
Nafalloajmitch: and bddebian has disappered :-/.08:43
NafalloI DID NOT! :-)08:43
dholbachlfittl: i'll have another look at it then08:43
ajmitchdisappeared?08:43
lfittldholbach: ok, thanks08:44
ajmitchas in not seen on irc?08:44
Nafalloyes. he's been gone since pre-ubz or so :-/08:45
ajmitchhm08:45
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LaserJockcan you use grep on multiple lines at a time?08:57
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ograLaserJock, grep -A08:59
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ograor grep -B08:59
LaserJockogra: I am looking at more of matching the contents of 2 lines. I want it to grep a line containing "foo" followed by a line containing "bar" for instance09:00
ogragrep -A 2 foo <file>| grep bar09:01
ajmitchhi ogra09:01
ograor something like that09:02
ograhi ajmitch09:02
slomoLaserJock: try egrep... '.*foo.*\n.*bar.*' or something09:02
Nafalloor grep -C :-)09:02
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LaserJockslomo: doesn't seem to work, maybe I will try python09:12
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dholbacheverybody congratulate lfittl to his first upload: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2005-November/001093.html09:28
crimsunrockin'!09:28
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lfittlthanks :)09:29
xhakercheers09:30
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raphinkhi all09:58
bmonty_laptophi raphink09:58
raphink:)10:02
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sistpotyhi folks10:09
bmonty_laptophi sistpoty10:09
sistpotyhi bmonty_laptop10:10
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dholbachhave a nice evening10:23
raphinkIdon't get it10:25
raphink:(10:25
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bmonty_laptopif a package is on the merge list, but the package vesion was only bumped for a rebuild, do we need to do anything?10:28
bmonty_laptop^version was bumped by debian10:28
sistpotybmonty_laptop: so actually it's the same exact same package as we have?10:30
bmonty_laptopsistpoty: there are some ubuntu changes that \sh made10:30
bmonty_laptopthat need to stay in the package10:30
bmonty_laptopthe package is fbi10:30
sistpotybmonty_laptop: ok, so basically the merge would be to leave the package as is?10:30
bmonty_laptopsistpoty: basically it would be to apply the ubuntu patch to the debian package with was only revved for a rebuild10:31
LaserJockwhy would a Sources.gz have packages that aren't available via apt?10:31
sistpotybmonty_laptop: well then, do nothing and close the bug (to mark it as done in the list). If you are eager, you could also comment to the malone bug ;)10:33
bmonty_laptopsistpoty: will do10:33
sistpotyLaserJock: are your sources up to date?10:33
bmonty_laptopsistpoty: actually I didn't open a bug on it yet :)10:34
LaserJocksistpoty: yep, and I can see the package on archive.u.c/pool/ but apt won't install it10:34
sistpotybmonty_laptop: then open a bug, just to close it10:34
bmonty_laptophaha10:34
bmonty_laptopok10:34
sistpotyLaserJock: what does apt tell you?10:34
LaserJocksistpoty: E: Unable to find a source package for10:35
sistpotyLaserJock: do you have the right deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list?10:35
sistpotyLaserJock: or using a mirror, that is flawed?10:36
LaserJocksistpoty: yep, and nope10:36
LaserJocksistpoty: oh, wait a second10:37
sistpotyLaserJock: hm... then that's strange... just retry with apt-get update ... apt-get source (or whatever you were trying)10:37
LaserJocksistpoty: ok, found it. I was doing it in a chroot that had us.archive.u.c10:39
LaserJockThe us mirror seems pretty slow to sync with a.u.c10:39
bmonty_laptopwhat is wrong with the us mirror?10:39
LaserJockbmonty_laptop: I had a Sources.gz file from a.u.c but I was trying to apt-get with us.a.u.c10:40
bmonty_laptopLaserJock: yeah, but the US mirror has problems with authenticating packages (at least for me)10:40
LaserJockbmonty_laptop: I don't care about that though ;-)10:41
LaserJockbmonty_laptop: it is kinda annoying though10:41
sistpotyit's a shame that ftp.uni-erlangen.de is a really bad mirror (i study at this there *g*)10:42
sistpotys/at this//10:42
slomobmonty_laptop: even if the debian version is only a rebuild and ubuntu changes are needed but not in the debian package... please merge to get it from the to-sync list ;)10:42
LaserJockbmonty_laptop: jeez bmonty_laptop, you've repackaged the fbi. Maybe you should try the irs :)10:43
sistpotyslomo: that's why i told bmonty_laptop to file a bug and close it10:43
slomosistpoty: well, i mean to get it from the MoM list...10:45
sistpotyslomo: exactly... that's the way the status of the list is updated... malone bug filed -> accepted; malone bug fixed -> done10:45
slomosistpoty: not your list... scott's *sigh* i need sleep, nobody understands me :P10:46
sistpotyslomo: ah, k *g*10:46
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raphinkI've got a pb with pbuilder11:02
raphinkcan anyone help me find out what's wrong?11:02
crimsunwhat's the issue?11:03
crimsun(brb)11:03
raphinksince I upgraded to dapper, when I want to build with pbuilder I get errors like :11:04
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raphinkgrep: /var/cache/pbuilder/build//3254/etc/shadow: No such file or directory11:04
raphink/var/cache/pbuilder/build/3254/etc/shadow11:04
raphinkmv: cannot stat `/var/cache/pbuilder/build/3254/etc/shadow': No such file or directory11:04
raphink -> Aborting with an error11:04
raphinkI've tried purging pbuilder, reinstalling and resetting it11:04
raphinkthen rebuilding the base archive and rrebuilding a package11:04
raphinkI still get the error11:05
crimsunyou should be building a breezy pbuilder then dist-upgrading it to dapper11:05
raphinkhow do I do that crimsun ?11:05
ograhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=33897611:05
raphinkI mean how to I dist-upgrade pbuilder?11:05
crimsunjust build a normal breezy one11:05
raphinkok11:05
ograraphink, see the bug above11:06
bmonty_laptopslomo: is there no way to get a package off the merge list without actually doing a merge? seems like a waste of my time and whoever sponsors the upload for me11:06
raphinkok11:06
crimsunthen change your apt.config/sources.list and ''sudo pbuilder update --override-config''11:06
slomobmonty_laptop: afaik not11:06
crimsunbmonty_laptop: only if it only needs a sync11:07
crimsunthen we can just ask for it11:07
raphinkcrimsun: I already upgraded to dapper11:07
bmonty_laptopcrimsun: the ubuntu patches are needed11:08
bmonty_laptopthe debian maintainer did a rebuild for build deps11:08
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crimsunbmonty_laptop: then it has to go through standard merge procedure, sorry.11:08
bmonty_laptopsounds like something that needs to be fixed in MoM...11:09
bmonty_laptopI'll reopen the bug and put the debdiff up11:09
slomobmonty_laptop: how to find out automatically if something is just a rebuild or not?11:10
crimsunautomatically? Hmm, I don't even know if there is a way. I've only encountered one such (view3ds)11:12
bmonty_laptopslomo: you can't, but after a person looks at it we should be able to mark it as a merge not required11:12
crimsunand I went ahead and merged view3ds just to keep current11:12
raphinkcrimsun: I ran sudo pbuilder update --override-config11:13
raphinkand I got : Distribution not specified, please specify11:13
raphink:s11:13
raphinkwhile I had run `sudo pbuilder create --distribution breezy' just before11:14
sistpotyraphink: did you adjust pbuilder config (i.e. the sources.list for pbuilder)11:14
raphinksistpoty: pbuilderrc doesn't contain the distribution name11:15
raphink:s11:15
raphinkI don't see what I shall adjust in the pbuilder config I'm sorry11:16
sistpotyraphink: but it should contain s.th. like DISTRIBUTION=... and APTCONFDIR=...11:16
raphinkhmm11:17
crimsunmine actually reads DISTRIBUTION=warty11:17
bmonty_laptopthere, no malone has generated more emails than that package deserves :)11:17
crimsunbut I've dist-upgraded it from warty to hoary to breezy to dapper11:17
sistpotyraphink: adjust 1) the distribution in pbuilderrc and the sources.list wherever aptconfdir points11:17
raphinkhmm ok11:17
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raphinkso I put dapper as the distribution11:17
crimsunno11:17
raphinkisn't it the same as running pbuilder create --distribution dapper?11:17
crimsunleave the distribution whatever you first created it as11:17
raphinkcrimsun: then what?11:18
crimsunyou can't create a dapper pbuilder right now11:18
raphinkthe distribution was commented crimsun11:18
crimsunit just doesn't work.11:18
slomocrimsun: you can... worked for me some days ago11:18
raphinkoh IC11:18
crimsunslomo: broke for me :/  (amd64)11:18
raphinkso I should keep a breezy one?11:18
slomocrimsun: hmm, x86 and ppc works ;)11:18
crimsunraphink: create a breezy one, dist-upgrade it to dapper11:18
sistpotyhehe, poor crimsun with amd6411:18
slomoraphink: breezy and then update to dapper is the preferred way to get a dapper pbuilder11:18
crimsunsistpoty: it's only a box I use for pbuilder, and it's 2000 mi away11:19
raphinkslomo: how do I upgrade pbuilder is what I don't get11:19
raphinkI only know how to create it with pbuilder create --distribution nameofdistro11:19
crimsunraphink: you have a sources.list in your apt.config11:19
bmonty_laptopraphink: yes, do that for breezy11:19
crimsunin your pbuilder's apt.config11:19
raphinkcrimsun: what is apt.config? where do I find it ?11:20
crimsunraphink: um, you were supposed to specify that in ~/.pbuilderrc11:20
raphinkdo you mean the APTCONFDIR ?11:20
crimsunyes11:20
raphinkok11:20
raphinkI'm seting it in /etc/pbuilderrc11:20
sistpotyweehaa. communication problem (hopefully) solved :)11:20
bmonty_laptopthat works also11:20
raphinkand it should be /etc/apt/ right?11:20
bmonty_laptopraphink: no, did you follow the pbuilder instructions in the wiki?11:21
raphinkbmonty_laptop: where is it?11:21
bmonty_laptophttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto11:21
crimsun(I tend to avoid system-wide changes like that, because this box actually hosts several dozen pbuilders)11:21
raphinkthanks bmonty_laptop11:21
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bmonty_laptopraphink: no problem. follows those instructions for breezy, and once that works I'll help you make it dapper11:22
sistpotycrimsun that's a good idea... I think I'm still corrupted by "this is my box and I have sudo-powers"11:22
bmonty_laptopcrimsun: can you have multiple pbuilder configs in .pbuilderrc?11:23
slomocrimsun: can you ping elmo for moving ffmpeg back to universe?11:23
bmonty_laptopI gotta get elmo to check out sync requests I emailed him11:24
crimsunslomo: is it delegated to him?11:25
crimsunif so, sure11:25
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slomocrimsun: afaik yes... at least i was told by someone i can't remember ;)11:26
LaserJockwhy would there be source-packages that don't have binary packages built?11:26
slomoLaserJock: did they fail?11:27
LaserJockspecifically, what about packages from the debian-installer section11:27
LaserJockslomo: no, I don't think they are even tried11:27
LaserJockfor instance, I don't see them in http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs11:28
slomohmm11:28
slomowhat package for example?11:28
LaserJockaboot-installer11:28
slomoalpha only iirc11:29
slomoanother one? ;)11:29
sistpotydidn't aboot-installer get removed (or aboot)?11:29
LaserJockthe complete list I'm interested in is : aboot-installer arcboot-installer cobalt-scripts colo-installer delo-installer partman-ext2r0 s390-dasd s390-netdevice srm-reader userdevfs vmelilo-installer zipl-installer11:29
LaserJockthey are universe source packages that don't have a section11:30
slomohmm11:30
LaserJockon debian they are all in debian-installer section11:30
slomoi guess they're all for archs we don't support atm11:30
crimsuncheck the last two links in the Documentation section on http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/11:32
crimsunhttp://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstallerBuild might give you a clearer picture of how it fits11:32
LaserJockok, but is there something wrong with the way it is now or is it ok?11:33
LaserJockI'm not concerned about it but it caused a mess in the python script I am working on11:34
raphinkbmonty_laptop: I created the breezy pbuilder following the wiki, now what?11:39
bmonty_laptopin /etc/pbuilder/apt.config/sources.list change all "breezy" to "dapper"11:39
raphinkok11:39
bmonty_laptopthen "sudo pbuilder update --override-config"11:39
crimsunLaserJock: I'd check with kamion.11:40
raphinkthat won't work for updates and backports will it?11:40
bmonty_laptopraphink: no, take those out11:40
raphinkok bmonty_laptop11:40
raphinkthanks11:40
raphinkthat was recorded a few years ago11:42
raphinklike 3 years I think11:43
raphinkyeah 3 years ago11:43
raphinkoooops11:43
raphinksorry11:44
raphinkwrong chan11:44
raphinklol11:44
raphinkbmonty_laptop: I did as you said11:48
raphinkthen tried to build my pbuilder again11:48
raphinkand i still have the same error11:48
raphink:(11:48
bmonty_laptopraphink: did you use build or update?11:48
raphinkI used build for my package11:48
raphinkjust before11:49
bmonty_laptopafter you changed sources to dapper you ran "sudo pbuilder update --override-config" ?11:49
raphinkI used sudo pbuilder update --override-config11:49
raphinkas you said11:49
raphinkyes I did11:49
raphinkit added some packages and rebuilt the base tarball11:49
bmonty_laptopdid that succeed?11:49
raphinkthen I built my package11:49
raphinkyes11:49
raphinkthen I built with11:49
raphinksudo pbuilder build mypackage.dsc11:49
bmonty_laptopwhat was the error with the package?11:50
raphinkgrep: /var/cache/pbuilder/build//19578/etc/shadow: No such file or directory11:50
raphink/var/cache/pbuilder/build/19578/etc/shadow11:50
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raphinkmv: cannot stat `/var/cache/pbuilder/build/19578/etc/shadow': No such file or directory11:50
crimsunwe just need a new pbuilder11:51
raphinkyes :s11:51
bmonty_laptopcrimsun: yeah, but I don't think that error has anything to do with updating11:51
bmonty_laptopto dapper11:51
raphinkwell I got that just after upgrading my system to dapper11:52
crimsun0.128 works fine11:52
ograraphink, again, see: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=33897611:52
raphinkI saw that ogra11:52
ogradid you do the one line fix ?11:52
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raphinkno ogra11:52
ograheh11:53
bmonty_laptopI'm using the pbuilder package from dapper on breezy11:53
ogrado it :)11:53
raphinkin the source of pbuilder yo umean?11:53
crimsunogra: or you could merge 0.138 ;)11:53
raphinkcrimsun: you mean installing from the debian package?11:54
ogracrimsun, yes, but its nearly 12pm and i have to do some other stuff...  i think i'll look into it tomorrow if nobody else grabbed it before11:54
siretartevening folks11:54
siretartthe harry potter film is great :)11:54
crimsunogra: no biggie :) Thanks.11:54
siretartKmirno_AWAY: around?11:55
bmonty_laptopsiretart: I have to wait until it comes out on DVD, so don't spoil it11:55
edoardosiretart, you tried audio-convert, correct? the deb package i mean : )11:55
siretartbmonty_laptop: I wont ;)11:55
bmonty_laptop:)11:55
LaserJockcrimsun: "Kamion LaserJock: nobody in their right mind cares about source packages without sections"11:55
siretartedoardo: why do you ask?11:56
crimsunLaserJock: that's the final answer11:56
crimsunif I don't know the answer, I refer you to someone who does11:56
edoardosiretart, i read it in revu. well i wanted to thank you : ) also, it works well, correct?11:57
raphinkogra: modified the line in the script and trying :)11:57
LaserJockcrimsun: yeah, makes sense. I just have to work around it in my script, which is ok11:57
raphinkthanks11:57
ograraphink, cat >> $BUILDPLACE/etc/shadow ??11:57
raphinkogra: no I modified the line as you said, with +    if [ ! "$SUTOUSER" = "su "  ] ; then11:58
siretartedoardo: I didn't actually try it. I focused on the packaging. The packaging is fine for me :)11:58
raphinksince this guy said it worked this way11:58
raphinkand it does11:58
ografine11:58
raphinkso thanks much :)11:58
ogra:)11:58
edoardosiretart, well thankyou for that anyway : )11:59
raphinkmy package is all ready and nice so I was getting crazy not being able to build it nicely11:59
edoardoyou guys, how long does it take for a project in revu to be... reviewed?11:59
edoardousually, i mean11:59
crimsun$RANDOM11:59
raphinklol11:59
crimsunit really depends when we have time.11:59
crimsunmost of us are extremely busy11:59
edoardome too : ) i was wonderin' if someone was lookin' at my project though. you know, i love to take care of it : )12:00
raphinkcrimsun: I take your work as such :12:00
raphink $ echo $RANDOM12:00
raphink842812:00
raphinkis that seconds, minutes, hours, days?12:00
raphink;)12:00
crimsunrandom is random12:01
siretartraphink: it really depends. I try to get over the list at least once a week12:01
raphinkhehe12:01
raphinkok siretart :)12:01

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