[12:05] bmonty_laptop: finally uploaded. don't know what's with my upload bandwidth :-P. === Stormx3 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:07] bmonty_laptop: I noticed that uim maintainer dropped the pm-dev build dependency. Thanks for pushing this. :-) [12:07] minghua: no problem [12:07] gn8 folks! [12:07] I just pointed out to him that there was no source file in the package that used the header file pm-dev provided [12:07] gn8 siretart [12:08] bye siretart [12:08] Nafallo: thanks [12:08] sistpoty: good night [12:08] oops, good night to siretart [12:09] hmm, irssi sees to have different nick auto-completion than others [12:09] s/sees/seems/ === selinium [n=selinium@80-193-16-239.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@121.69.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === selinium [n=selinium@80-193-16-239.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:35] Hey guys, does anyone know of a problem with the Build-Essential package in Breezy? [12:36] there is no problems? :-) [12:36] in breezy? there's no problem [12:36] There is it seems [12:36] WFM [12:36] Either this guy I was helping on the Forums [12:36] but please tell ask us instead of asking to ask [12:36] really really screwed up [12:37] WFM? [12:37] I'm going to go out on a short limb and say that guy screwed his own sources.list [12:37] Works For Me (And Everyone Else But You) TM [12:38] tseng, I can't tell people on the UbuntuForums that [12:38] but you can help him troubleshoot his sources.list, because that's obviously where it started [12:38] Which I have tried [12:39] We commented out anything that looked sketchy (which was basically the PLF repo) [12:39] oh geez [12:39] comment out everything that isn't *.archive.ubuntu.com [12:39] we did [12:39] the PLF repo was the only sketchy thing [12:40] then forcibly remove/downgrade everything to stock breezy [12:40] -f install should do that correct? [12:40] no, you need to use apt-pinning [12:40] pin-priority >1000 the breezy repo [12:41] I'll look into it [12:41] then dist-upgrade [12:41] people get all sorts of random fsckedness when they use external repos [12:41] but anything from the PLF repo shouldn't interfere with build-essiential right? (I'm not familier with the PLF repo) [12:42] I have never touched PLF, so I have no idea [12:42] Its basically the storehouse for things like w32codecs it seems [12:42] ouch [12:42] heck its in that Script-O-Matic that someone whipped up [12:42] an illegal repo. [12:43] yah no kiddin' [12:43] yeah it sounds alot like BreakMyGentoo [12:43] I don't touch it [12:43] I advise against it whenever I see it, so I don't have to fix it later [12:44] i can only find a mandrake plf [12:44] besides the obvious terror organization [12:44] pretty disingenuous to name yourself after them [12:44] deb http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free <--The line in question [12:44] hehe [12:45] its commented out [12:45] "free" [12:45] its not even available [12:45] in this case it might not be a bad name it seems :-P [12:45] Yah its down now, seems like a recent turn === cfaun [n=cfaun@pool-151-204-79-2.delv.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-47-165.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:49] I think plf is the backports-extra replacement [12:50] hey LJ [12:50] hi Kyral [12:50] FlowDesigner devs haven't emailed me back about the problems with libflow [12:51] Kyral: hmm, I didn't know you were having a problem [12:51] It builds, but lintain complains like CRAZY about somethings [12:51] Hey LaserJock [12:51] Kyral: the NMU stuff? [12:51] Hi bmonty_laptop [12:52] LaserJock, no [12:52] libflow.so is in the wrong place, and its causing Lintain to throw fits [12:53] Kyral: oh, ok. and it's something that requires upstream to fix? [12:53] yah it requires messing with the source [12:54] Kyral: seems like they were pretty eager to help so hopefully you will hear from them soon [12:56] I am currently working on a script similar to lucas's to show us the Ubuntu and Debian version of source packages in the math, science, and tex sections [12:56] LaserJock: what do you mean "script similar to mine" ? [12:57] maybe you can explain why mine didn't work for you, so I can improve it instead :) [12:57] lucas: well, it gets the package name, version, and section and will hopefully create a .html similar to yours [12:57] lucas: well, what I am trying to do is sort by section [12:58] ah [12:58] lucas: and learn python along the way [12:59] what I got so far is at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4649 [12:59] but I am getting stuck because it appears that 12 source packages in Ubuntu don't have "Section:" in them [01:00] LaserJock: fix them? compare to Debian? [01:01] Nafallo: well, I have to figure out how to tell which ones are the problem [01:02] hm, true [01:02] Nafallo: And I don't have enough scripting knowledge to figure it out yet [01:04] can't you just output two lists (one with everything except the faulty ones and one with everything) and diff? :-) === lucas [n=lucas@83.179.128.164] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marc_ [n=marc@203-166-239-93.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:06] arg [01:06] got disconnected just when I was answering [01:06] [00:58:04] lucas: and learn python along the way [01:06] [00:58:32] you just have to change pkglist_from_rdepends.bash by your pkglist_from_section.bash [01:06] [00:58:59] if you do that, you can you all my other scripts [01:06] [01:02:17] grep-dctrl -F section 'math' -o -F section 'science' -o -F section 'tex' -ns Package /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.oleane.net_debian_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages [01:06] [01:02:43] this does your "get all binary packages with section in ('math', 'science', 'tex') [01:06] did I miss sthing ? [01:08] lucas: interesting, I'm not sure what to think. I started this before I learned of you script and I wanted to do everything in Python [01:09] LaserJock: I think the best way to deal with that is with small shell scripts that do one thing and do it well [01:09] because everybody has different needs [01:10] good night everybody [01:10] right, this was for my own internal consumption though. 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[02:06] oh it works === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:12] morning all :) === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === seth_k [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-227-156-31.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:25] wb LaserJock [02:26] zakame: thanks, had dinner and made it home. now I can relax ;-) [02:29] good for you :) === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-227-156-31.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jason [n=jason@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === moyogo [n=moyogo@104pc104.ucu-vb.uu.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Riddell [i=jr@kde/jriddell] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xtat [n=xtat@gaius.rapidpacket.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Firetech [n=Jocke@amarok/rokymotion/Firetech] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kaloz [n=kaloz@arrakis.dune.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === NigelS [i=nigel@83.166.160.96] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mortas [n=kris@217.148.89.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Treenaks [n=martijn@messy.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo_away [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lool [n=lool@pig.zood.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sladen [i=paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:57] I love the COSI [03:02] COSI? [03:02] the Clarkson Open Source Institute [03:02] cosi.clarkson.edu [03:04] Also keeps an Ubuntu Mirror :D [03:04] does anybody here use vim? [03:04] hsss boo! ;P === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@p5487F15B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] Kyral: yeah, yeah I know [03:05] I can't figure out how to do a search&replace [03:06] :s/foo/bar [03:06] vimtutor, lesson 4.4 [03:06] tseng: hmm, all I get is "pattern not found". I can just do a search and it works fine [03:07] yes, read the doc please [03:11] tseng: thanks, weird, but it works [03:11] its not that weird [03:11] very similar to sed or any other regex [03:12] tseng: it just seems weird to me that I have to select all the text before I can do a replace [03:12] but I'm just learning vi so maybe my mind isn't wraped around it yet [03:12] Type :%s/old/new/g to change every occurrence in the whole file. [03:13] i dont see *anything* about selecting text [03:14] well, that is what was in vimtutor lesson 4.4 I thought [03:14] no, you move the cursor to the line [03:14] tip [03:14] to repeat the replace on another line move the cursor there [03:15] and press & in normal mode === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [03:15] cool === tvelocity [n=tony@84.254.13.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@d-ip-129-15-215-138.wireless.ou.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:19] tseng: nice tip === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-65-26-222-190.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:27] chillywilly: I added dyfet to the Ubuntu marketplace earlier. [03:27] He's interested in hacking on Bayonne in Ubuntu. =) === tritium [n=michael@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:50] hi tritium === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:51] hi LaserJock [03:51] tritium: been staying busy? [03:52] LaserJock: yes, putting in long hours at work, and many projects around the house (repairs after renting it out while in grad. school). You? [03:53] LaserJock: and today, this Canonical laptop's hard drive died [03:53] tritium: about the same. I have been trying to landscape the back yard a bit. Are you at sandia? [03:54] LaserJock: yes, how did you know? [03:55] tritium: don't remember. I think you said one time here. I visited Sandia at Livermore once [03:55] tritium: my lab has a collaboration there [03:55] LaserJock: oh, okay. Cool. [03:55] tritium: your Sandia is much bigger isn't it? [03:57] LaserJock: yes [03:58] tritium: I have thought about doing a post doc at a national lab but I don't know if I could get used to all the security [03:59] LaserJock: it takes some getting used to [04:01] tritium: when I was a Sandia-Livermore (not sure what it is called) it took a repair man over 2 hrs to get throught the gate because they had to take every piece of equipment out of his service truck and check it out [04:02] LaserJock: not surprising [04:02] tritium: but the pay seemed better than an academic postdoc ;-) [04:03] yes === spstarr_home [n=sh0n@CPEdeadbeef0000-CM000039d4cc6a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === choudesh [n=choudesh@151.161.173.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:29] Kyral: ping? [04:29] PONG! [04:29] sup [04:29] Kyral: I am trying to set up a couple different pbuilders. [04:30] yah...I gotta get to appending the PBuilderHowto don't I [04:30] Kyral: I am unsure of how to seperate the pbuilderrc files. It seems to alway look for ~/.pbuilderrc [04:31] thats just a pain in the arse [04:31] no matter what I put for --configfile [04:31] Yah it gives me that warning too [04:31] but it still abides by the configfile I give [04:31] so I can ignore it? [04:32] yah [04:32] Its just a warning not an error [04:32] ah, ok [04:32] Actually I have to go update my Pbuilders [04:33] 1 alias for 6 commands === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:38] Ubuntu Breezy, Ubuntu Dapper, Debian Sid, Debian Sarge, Debian Etch === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:04] Anyone know if Emacs has a function to link a file you are working on to one on a remote server and upload the file to the remote server when you save it? === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-47-165.nycap.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:07] Or do I get the honor of writing this plugin :D === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp04197965pcs.crosky01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-65-26-222-190.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob1 [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:28] Kyral: do you have a minute to help me with my pbuilders? [05:28] yah [05:28] Kyral: ok, I think I got breezy and dapper ok, but now I want a sid pbuilder [05:28] Oh LJ, when are we gonna start working on the Ubuntu Packaging Guide? [05:29] LJ you are gonna have to create a Sarge PBuilder and upgrade that oen [05:29] LaserJock: so either specify sid lines in your pbuilder config's sources.list, or pass the distribution explicitly to pbuilder [05:29] Kyral: hmm, well that is kinda up in the air right now. I was supposed to get Unfrgiven's guide but I haven't heard from him in a while [05:30] so do I need sources.list files for each distro? [05:30] I just make separate apt.configs [05:30] sid is usually not debootstrapable though [05:30] thats what I do, and I find it very easy to manage everything [05:30] thats why I said make a Sarge PBuilder and upgrade it [05:30] for maintainability I'd say it's a good idea but don't necessary _have_ to have them for bootstrapping [05:31] Kyral: ok, that is what I have. and also seperate pbuilderrc's? [05:31] right, sid is like dapper in that sense [05:31] and now is really a bad time to build stuff in sid, due to the C++ ABI change [05:31] yeah on multiple fronts :-) [05:32] I am confused because it seems pbuilder looks at /etc/pbuilderrc, ~/.pbuilderrc, and my own ~/.pbuilder/distro/pbuilderrc files [05:33] Unless you override with --configfile [05:34] Kyral: well I had to change /etc/pbuilderrc even when I had --configfile. It looked like it was reading both [05:34] I just made copies of pbuilderrc for each one [05:35] not to mention I flat out deleted the original [05:35] Kyral: I have copies of pbuilderrc for each distro, but I didn't delete the one in /etc [05:35] Ironically it somehow symlinked the one in etc to one of my custom pbuilderrcs [05:36] Kyral: It seems that it just doesn't like having multiple .pbuilderrc's laying around [05:37] Kyral: ok, so do I need to make a pbuilderrc for sarge and another pbuilderrc for sid? [05:38] I guess I could just change one pbuilderrc [05:38] I have three different pbuilder rcs [05:39] ~/.pbuilderrc{.warty,hoary,breezy} [05:39] err, four [05:39] (the one without an extension in breezy dist-upgraded to dapper) [05:39] I keep them in /etc/pbuilder/ [05:40] crimsun: do you have a apt.config for each? [05:40] LaserJock: separate directories, yes [05:40] ~/porting/builder/$foo [05:42] crimsun: ok, that is about what I have. I have ~.pbuilder/{breezy,dapper,sid}/{pbuilderrc, apt.config/} === zoe [n=zoe@gnulinux.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === segfault_ [i=carlos@prognus.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:43] hmm, I still don't understand --distribution and --override-config are for when you have --configfile [05:46] --override-config is for when you make a change to something in that PBuilder's apt.config [05:46] like if you change the Sources.list to use a different mirror [05:51] I should code a Space Invaders for Emacs :D === segfault [i=carlos@prognus.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:07] Night all === chillywi1ly [n=danielb@CPE-65-26-222-190.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-65-26-222-190.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === segfault [i=carlos@prognus.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-65-26-222-190.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywi1ly [n=danielb@CPE-65-26-222-190.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-65-26-222-190.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hunger_ [n=hunger@p54A647C2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob1 [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:38] hmm, is libjack0.80.0-dev dropped in dapper? === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@alabama.imag.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:40] zakame: yes. [08:40] crimsun: I see only libjack0.100.0-dev , but linphone build-deps on libjack0.80.0-dev... guess I have to update debian/control... [08:40] yes, you do [08:41] okey thanks :) [08:41] we need to do a mini-transition on everything that b-ds on libjack0.80.0-dev | libjack-dev [08:41] they need to be explicitly updated to libjack0.100.0-dev [08:41] dropping the `| libjack-dev' part? [08:42] hmm. [08:42] we differ a bit from Debian in this regard [08:42] We don't have a libjack0.80.0-dev anymore, so we _could_ leave | libjack-dev. [08:43] however, the transition in Debian was to explicitly b-d on libjack0.100.0-dev [08:43] so we should follow Debian [08:43] ah, okey :D [08:43] hi zakame, hi crimsun :) === hunger__ [n=hunger@p54A64240.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:44] ei slomo_ :D [08:45] hi slomo_, zakame :-) [08:46] ei crimsun :) === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-65-26-222-190.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B0238.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:51] good morning [08:52] hi dholbach === viviersf [n=cain@rrba-146-96-186.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:52] heya dholbach [08:52] hey zakame, slomo_ === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko^school [n=chatzill@iserver.borg-hermagor.asn-ktn.ac.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:10] moin [09:10] can anyone tell my why liblinc isn't available in breezy? [09:10] hi mitsuhiko^school [09:10] http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/libs/liblinc1 <-- hoary has it [09:11] wb Nafallo [09:11] hi zakame [09:12] thanx [09:12] other packages reference it, but it doesn't exist in breezy [09:12] it was removed [09:13] notice it's not in Debian either === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@84.5.52.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:13] hello [09:13] crimsun: so the only solution is to use the hoary version? [09:14] hi Gloubiboulga [09:14] mitsuhiko^school: no, check if upstream has obsoleted it with a new package [09:14] if so, check if it's in the distro [09:14] if not, work to NEW it [09:16] crimsun: where can i check this? [09:16] mitsuhiko^school: check what? [09:16] crimsun: it upstream has obsoleted it [09:16] mitsuhiko^school: check upstream's [old] Web site [09:17] debian/copyright should have a url [09:17] ok. thx [09:22] crimsun: i can't find a note that this packages is deprecated or something similar :( [09:23] mitsuhiko^school: then you will have to use the hoary version. [09:24] bad news [09:26] I started working on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTools [09:26] please review & comment & modify etc [09:31] mm gdebi->universe possibly [09:31] that sounds tasty [09:31] :) [09:31] morning, dholbach :) [09:32] hi crimsun :) === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:36] morning dholbach [09:36] (and everyone else) [09:36] hi sivang [09:37] hi siretart [09:37] and sivang [09:42] Could anyone have a look at my Denemo package on revu ? [09:43] (~15 minutes, meeting in progress) === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hunger_ [n=hunger@p54A626FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:54] can someone please check Malone #4094 and #4095 , linphone and lostirc debdiffs, PendingUpload? thanks in advance :) [09:54] Error: Could not parse XML returned by Malone bugzilla: Connection to Malone bugzilla failed: HTTP Error 404: Not Found [09:54] zakame: sure, a few more minutes remaining in the meeting. [09:55] crimsun: many thanks :) [09:59] binutils cvs => new glibc ... [09:59] something tells me I had better do a system snapshot TODAY. [10:00] :-) [10:00] crimsun: hehe, same thought here ;) [10:02] *sigh* every package i choose to merge depends on something in main to be merged first which itself has some problems... [10:04] slomo_: i can sponsor you uploads [10:05] dholbach: i can't merge the packages because the problems seem to be too hard *shrug* i'll simply do other stuff before ;) [10:05] slomo: what packages? [10:05] i just want to offer it to you [10:06] dholbach: i know... thanks :) [10:06] if there's a problem in main and you (everybody) can fix it, i will gladly sponsor the upload, if that makes things better [10:06] Nafallo: gjdoc for example... FTBFS because of ICE === Mortas_ [n=kris@217.148.89.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:07] slomo_: out of curiosity, have we seen any movement on binary-promoting libpostproc-dev (from ffmpeg) to universe? [10:07] it's holding up a vlc merge [10:07] crimsun: was there a main inclusion report? [10:08] ouch [10:09] crimsun: no, elmo ignores me except for syncs :( [10:09] dholbach: err, afaik ffmpeg source remains in universe with its binary packages being split across universe (libavcodec-dev, libavformat-dev, ffmpeg) and multiverse (libpostproc-dev) [10:09] dholbach: one part of it is in multiverse... caused by a mistake [10:09] crimsun: oh sorry, i misunderstood, nevermind [10:10] dholbach: np [10:12] hm, is the dapper kernel built with gcc4? and the sid kernel too? [10:13] yes [10:13] Linux version 2.6.15-3-686 (buildd@vernadsky) (gcc version 4.0.3 20051023 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.2-3ubuntu1)) #1 SMP Thu Nov 17 01:14:29 UTC 2005 [10:13] Error: Could not parse XML returned by Ubuntu Bugzilla bugzilla: not well-formed (invalid token): line 189, column 1 [10:14] perfect :) === Fuddl [n=fuddl@faui02g.informatik.uni-erlangen.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hunger__ [n=hunger@p54A60DD5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:31] omg [10:31] why does a package invoke automake etc in clean?! [10:33] slomo: that was I was wondering when moving them to build ;-) [10:37] timestamp skew? [10:38] crimsun: yes :/ === Gloubiboulga is now known as Gloubi_aw === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@81.171.100.21] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:47] hmm, where is zakame? :/ [10:48] his client timed out [10:48] about 24 minutes ago, apparently [10:49] <\sh> moins [10:50] hi \sh :) [10:51] moin === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@gra86-1-82-239-88-236.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob1 [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas [n=Miranda@AGrenoble-152-1-80-16.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:45] hi === Ubugtu` [n=bugbot@81.171.100.21] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubi_aw is now known as Gloubiboulga === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-65-26-222-190.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] crimsun: are you sponsoring some of those merge-bugs or shall I dig in? :-) === dredg [n=nsherida@80.169.137.162] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hunger [n=hunger@p54A6347B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:44] is there a motu bugs e-mail list? 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[02:14] where is zakame? :-) [02:15] -Architecture: any [02:15] +Architecture: i386 powerpc ia64 amd64 alpha arm mipsel hurd-i386 [02:15] ^ that just looks wrong, no? [02:24] no, it means it's not kfreebsd-i386 for instance. [02:24] and not m68k [02:24] we don't have that one :-) [02:24] and not s390 [02:24] not those either. [02:24] we do have hppa, though [02:24] which is not in the list either [02:25] oh, the inofficals. I always forget about those. === maradong [n=bhentges@213.47.179.227] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:35] Nafallo: I've sent elmo emails on syncing the packages I marked for sync [02:38] bmonty_laptop: ah, oki. === Nafallo found IRC to go faster ;-) [02:38] Nafallo: also, I'm assuming you uploaded the falconseye package...I made a mistake and didn't mark it as dapper so it was REJECTED [02:38] I'll upload the new debdiff in a few [02:39] oki [02:39] Nafallo: I guess I can give him that huge list of packages in IRC :) [02:39] Mornin' [02:39] hi Kyral [02:41] bmonty_laptop: btw, was breezy -> dapper the only mistake? :-) [02:42] unstable even [02:42] Nafallo: as far as I am aware, yes [02:42] did you find another ? [02:43] bmonty_laptop: nope, but I can do that change locally ;-) [02:44] ok, I've got the debdiff almost done if you want it === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:46] feel free to upload, but I've already given the fixed version to my pbuilder :-) === zakame [n=zak@210.213.72.139] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:47] ok, I'll just put it there for completeness :) [02:48] hi all [02:48] hi zakame [02:48] hey bmonty_laptop, how's the merge going ? :) [02:48] hi zakame [02:48] the merge is *REALLY* fun...you should help :) [02:49] hi Nafallo :D thanks for another upload :) [02:50] bmonty_laptop: hihi, I am on the merging too, even though I'm just on dialup :) [02:50] zakame: no problem :-) [02:50] zakame: ahh, dialup would be a limiting factor === jamessan|work [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] bmonty_laptop: yup... nevertheless, its fun though, and I learn as I go :) [02:51] dialup is evil === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] zakame: same here, the value in doing the merges is touching lots of different packages [02:52] Kyral: which is why I'm seeking bandwith sponsorship :) [02:52] "sponsorship"? [02:52] bmonty_laptop: indeed, we get to learn how other people and DDs do stuff :) [02:53] damn [02:54] I should have updated Standards-Version on falconseye [02:54] I wish I could get the hang of merging [02:54] but school is more important right now [02:55] Kyral: hihi... technically I too should be in (este, on) school right now, but without books, I'm still on sem break ;) [02:55] So I'm helping out with insane amounts of support on the Forums [02:55] Racked up about 70 posts yesterday I think [02:56] wow [02:56] all reading 'Dude, STFU & RTFM!' ? [02:56] :P [02:56] Treenaks: hihi [02:56] Hell no [02:56] I stabbity anyone that says that [02:56] Nafallo: can't you re-upload? :) [02:56] Kyral: I tell people to look stuff up in the starter's guide all the time [02:56] zakame: I'm lazy [02:57] Kyral: because I'm not copy/pasting it for them [02:57] haha [02:57] Treenaks, so do I, but I don't exactly tell the to RTFM :P [02:57] I do, but in a much nicer way :D [02:57] Kyral: RTFM -> read THIS (specific) F M [02:58] Its usually something like "I believe this link will be most helpful" [03:01] Anyway I must be off [03:01] bye Kyral [03:01] Need food before class or else I'm like a computer w/o a power supply [03:03] haha === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@DSL01.83.171.150.53.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] hi folks [03:06] hey sistpoty [03:06]