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| jbailey | Random notes before I pass out: | 05:32 |
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| jbailey | Binutils upgrade breaks glibc build in two ways. | 05:32 |
| jbailey | The first of which I have a patch for (binutils is now sensitive to gcc emitting strange symbols) | 05:32 |
| elmo | one is known | 05:32 |
| jbailey | The second of which I don't, (weak symbols can no longer override global symbols) | 05:33 |
| elmo | a newer CVS (woo, this CVS idea WAS SUCH A GOOD IDEA) should fix the latter | 05:33 |
| jbailey | Great. | 05:33 |
| elmo | can you put a source package someone for me to test build with? | 05:33 |
| elmo | and do we only care about this for ubuntu? | 05:33 |
| jbailey | Yup, gimme a sec to make sure I have a ChangeLog entry for everything. | 05:34 |
| jbailey | elmo: rookery:~jbailey/public_html/glibc/* | 05:41 |
| elmo | jbailey: k, thx, I'll test a new upstream version tomorrow | 05:42 |
| jbailey | elmo: Thanks. Do you know what time of day you'll be doing that? | 05:42 |
| jbailey | I'll try to be around for that. | 05:42 |
| elmo | oh, no idea sorry | 05:42 |
| elmo | if it's important, and you don't want to be blocked on me, feel free to just do it yourself | 05:43 |
| jbailey | Umm, as far as distros we care about for this? Certainly Ubuntu for now. Debian will be broken, but I haven't completed the merge yet. | 05:43 |
| jbailey | 'kay. Is it just a CVS update? | 05:43 |
| elmo | I make a point of only maintaining binutils for Debian, and Debian may or may not want to fix this (I've asked Vorlon) | 05:43 |
| jbailey | It's blocking X from building, or I wouldn't still be up staring at it. | 05:43 |
| elmo | basically, yes | 05:43 |
| elmo | none of the patches have been merged upstream, so it should just be a matter of copying the debian tree into a recent CVS checkout | 05:43 |
| jbailey | I'll look at it in 7 hours then. If you look at it before then, can you let me know? | 05:43 |
| elmo | I won't be | 05:48 |
| elmo | it's 5am, I need to sleep ;-) | 05:48 |
| jbailey | Right. =) | 05:52 |
| jbailey | I'm going to grab it first thing, so I'll just tackle it. | 05:53 |
| jbailey | Any objections to me just updating in Ubuntu and sorting out merging to Debian later? | 05:53 |
| elmo | err, that'd kind of suck since it involves an orig.tar.gz | 05:53 |
| elmo | if you do that, pls try and make sure it's a sane one I can reuse | 05:54 |
| elmo | but basically, I guess not, if you're in a rush | 05:54 |
| elmo | anyway, night | 05:54 |
| jbailey | I'll do my best. Thanks, James. | 05:55 |
| jbailey | g'night | 05:55 |
| jbailey | infinity: If you care read the above text. | 05:56 |
| jbailey | and g'night. =) | 05:56 |
| lamont-away | doko_: you realize that if you added a build-dep on the new libstdc++ version to the packages affected, they could be uploaded at the same time as gcc, and then the build-dep dropped on the next sync or whatever (that is, they could have -build versions...) | 07:13 |
| fabbione | is the transition started btw? | 07:14 |
| lamont-away | waiting for the CD set to get built, iirc | 07:15 |
| fabbione | ok | 07:16 |
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| fabbione | good night lamont | 07:45 |
| Riddell | doko: did you look into subversion with libdb4.3? | 10:03 |
| doko | Riddell: infinity said, he's preparing packages and handling the upgrade | 10:04 |
| doko | fabbione: do you know which binutils failure daniels had in mind= | 10:06 |
| doko | ? | 10:06 |
| fabbione | no sorry | 10:06 |
| fabbione | just read the scrollback here? | 10:06 |
| Riddell | infinity: same question :) | 10:08 |
| infinity | Riddell : I've made the changes already in Debian's SVN repository. The Debian upload is blocking on someone properly documenting the repo upgrade procedures for end users. | 10:34 |
| infinity | Riddell : I can, for now, cut an Ubuntu release from Debian SVN, if it's blocking you elsewhere, since we don't care much about being user friendly this early in OUR release cycle. | 10:35 |
| Riddell | infinity: that would be good, it's blocking kdesdk which blocks a couple other important kde modules | 10:46 |
| Riddell | doko: http://bugs.debian.org/323133 fixed in ubuntu too? | 10:52 |
| doko | Riddell: not yet, but with the next upload | 10:53 |
| Riddell | doko: which will be after today's flight-1 CD? | 10:58 |
| doko | not sure about today, but after the flight-1 CD, so the gcc-3.4 workaround for hppa can be removed | 11:00 |
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| elmo | anyone done anything with binutils yet? | 01:43 |
| doko | not yet, jbailey did want to have a look today. it's the X build failure? | 01:49 |
| elmo | well, more getting newer glibc built, so X can build | 01:50 |
| elmo | but there's now also a patch for gcj vs. c++filt and I can fix hppa properly too | 01:50 |
| doko | hppa is the one metnioned on parisc-linux? | 01:51 |
| elmo | hum? no, the expect-tcl8.3 thing | 01:51 |
| elmo | what's the other thing? | 01:51 |
| doko | http://lists.parisc-linux.org/pipermail/parisc-linux/2005-November/027663.html | 01:53 |
| doko | infinity, elmo: i386 and powerpc buildd's run 32, or 64bit kernels? | 01:53 |
| elmo | 64-bit kernel, but they force the personality to 32-bit | 01:53 |
| elmo | (just like sparc does, in Debian at least) | 01:53 |
| elmo | doko: oh, that, dunno about that | 01:54 |
| fabbione | and in Ubuntu too | 01:58 |
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| fabbione | you talk about the evil... | 01:59 |
| jbailey | I'm not evil. I'm cute like Devil Doll | 02:00 |
| fabbione | tell that to jblack :D | 02:04 |
| jbailey | Thinking of which, I'd love to know what he thought of the drive to NYC. | 02:04 |
| jbailey | Jordi's blog posts were fun. | 02:04 |
| elmo | jbailey: fyi, I'm spinning a new binutils cvs for debian anyway | 02:06 |
| elmo | since there's a fix for c++filt | 02:06 |
| jbailey | elmo: 'kay. | 02:09 |
| jbailey | elmo: Safe to assume you'll sync it when you're happy? | 02:09 |
| elmo | heck no | 02:10 |
| elmo | it needs merging of that evil crap you guys use for the link on boot | 02:10 |
| elmo | which so isn't going anywhere near Debian | 02:10 |
| fabbione | elmo: speak with sabdfl about it please :D | 02:11 |
| elmo | eh, I don't care if you use it, it's just Not My Problem | 02:11 |
| elmo | "expect-tcl8.3 [hppa] | expect [hppa] " | 02:11 |
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| fabbione | elmo: it's not like we had the option to say "it sucks" | 02:12 |
| elmo | fabbione: dude, you're missing the point, I'm not criticizing you guys for using it - it's just I don't maintain packages in Ubuntu, so I'm not going to start do merge work for them, even if it's my "own package" (in Debian) | 02:13 |
| fabbione | ahhh ok | 02:13 |
| fabbione | sorry | 02:13 |
| fabbione | i misunderstood | 02:13 |
| infinity | elmo : I'll merge it in the morning (~8 hours from now), if you do the Debian upload before then. I'm intimately involved with binutils' debian/rules at this point. | 02:15 |
| fabbione | infinity: are on you kernel-team@l.u.c ? | 02:18 |
| infinity | fabbione : I am, I responded to your mail there a few minutes ago. | 02:19 |
| fabbione | ok | 02:23 |
| doko | elmo: which one is that? | 02:30 |
| elmo | doko: gcc-4.0 | 02:58 |
| doko | elmo: yes, already fixed in svn | 03:02 |
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| elmo | ok, so sorry, I got entirely distracted this afternoon by meetings and stuff, so I'm only just building binutils for ubuntu and test building glibc now | 07:56 |
| elmo | or has anyone beat me to it? | 07:57 |
| jbailey | elmo: Adam said that he'd do it, and I haven't heard from him. | 07:57 |
| jbailey | So I suspect he's still sleeping. | 07:57 |
| elmo | tho I just realised I'm doing it on amd64 instead of i386, sigh | 07:57 |
| elmo | will that still work as a test case? | 07:57 |
| jbailey | I saw it on ppc and ppc64. | 08:00 |
| jbailey | I hadn't tried i386 and amd64 yet. | 08:00 |
| jbailey | "2.6.15-rc1 marks the closing of the window for new features, so Linus's git repository contains mostly fixes. It does, however, also include a generic cmpxchg implementation for i386, new Omnikey Cardman 4000 and 4040 drivers, and a new DMA32 zone for the x86-64 architecture." | 08:05 |
| jbailey | Does this mean we're going to go back to supporting i386, or can we still say fuckit, and consider going to i686 only? | 08:05 |
| elmo | we're not going to go back to i386, it'd require a recompile of the archive | 08:08 |
| elmo | I don't think we can do i686 only given our target market | 08:08 |
| jbailey | Our target market appears to include computers that can run openoffice2. | 08:09 |
| jbailey | Does that honestly allow pre-i686? | 08:09 |
| jbailey | (I'm not actually too fussed about this, MS starting to move to 64 bit on servers is a good sign that we're on our way past the mess of upgrades to ia32) | 08:11 |
| elmo | ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/sem_trywait.S: Assembler messages: | 08:12 |
| elmo | ../nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/sem_trywait.S:59: Error: symbol `sem_trywait' is already defined | 08:12 |
| elmo | I got that for amd64; is that related or random? | 08:13 |
| jbailey | Looks likely to be related, that's the same type of error I saw for the bind symbol. | 08:14 |
| jbailey | Lemme fire this up on concordia for a sec and get amd64 output for that. | 08:14 |
| jbailey | jbailey@concordia:~ $ dchroot -c dapper | 08:15 |
| jbailey | Invalid chroot 'dapper' | 08:15 |
| jbailey | elmo: Should I send that to RT? | 08:16 |
| elmo | aww, crap jan hasn't committed the patch to fix it yet | 08:26 |
| elmo | crap, even worse, it has, but clearly hasn't fixed it | 08:28 |
| jbailey | elmo: I'd just revert the patch from the 4th or so that loses the ability to override the symbols. | 08:31 |
| jbailey | (Assuming I have the patch right) | 08:32 |
| elmo | err, what patch from the 4th? | 08:34 |
| elmo | http://sourceware.org/ml/binutils/2005-10/msg00412.html references the problematic part of thepatch AFAIK | 08:34 |
| elmo | ok, this is krazy with a K | 08:51 |
| elmo | AFAICS it's nothing to do with Jan's patch | 08:51 |
| elmo | http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/gas/read.c.diff?cvsroot=src&r1=1.108&r2=1.109 | 08:51 |
| elmo | @@ -2784,18 +2793,37 @@ | 08:51 |
| elmo | + as_bad (_("symbol `%s' is already defined"), name); | 08:52 |
| elmo | + symbolP = symbol_clone (symbolP, 0); | 08:52 |
| elmo | which is like, "fatal error, but then do something", AFAICS | 08:53 |
| elmo | [oh, well, it is Jan's patch, just applied by Nick] | 08:55 |
| elmo | meh | 09:19 |
| elmo | jbailey: drow says 'iz glibc bug' | 09:19 |
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| elmo | jbailey: http://sourceware.org/ml/glibc-cvs/2005-q4/msg00350.html | 09:27 |
| jbailey | elmo Eh, okay. I had assumed it was the same thing as the bind issue (which it might be, but there isn't a patch for yet) | 09:28 |
| jbailey | elmo: Are you able to put a dapper chroot on concordia for me to look at this? OtherwiseI can update my wife's machine to dapper, but that'll take an hour or two. | 09:29 |
| elmo | done | 09:30 |
| jbailey | tx | 09:32 |
| elmo | lamont/infinity: floe has gone insane, please uninsane it, kthx | 09:40 |
| jbailey | elmo: May I have devscripts in the dapper chroot, please? =) | 09:41 |
| elmo | done | 09:41 |
| lamont-away | elmo: wow | 09:43 |
| jbailey | elmo: Building, thanks. | 09:44 |
| elmo | jbailey: oh, so http://people.ubuntu.com/~james/binutils/ has the new binutils, if it still helps any | 09:46 |
| elmo | I'm test building i386 (-12 tho) myself now with current dapper binutils | 09:47 |
| elmo | if it doesn't help powerpc, pls let me know | 09:47 |
| elmo | holy cow, could we build glibc a few more times on i386? I'm sure we're not doing it enough | 09:54 |
| jbailey | *lol* | 09:54 |
| jbailey | elmo: For dapper + 1 one of those passes gets dropped. | 09:54 |
| jbailey | If we finally admit that noone in their right mind would run Ubuntu with less than an i686, the other can be dropped. =) | 09:55 |
| elmo | {standard input}:422: Error: symbol `__moddi3' is already defined | 09:55 |
| elmo | {standard input}:513: Error: symbol `__udivdi3' is already defined | 09:55 |
| elmo | {standard input}:547: Error: symbol `__umoddi3' is already defined | 09:55 |
| elmo | ok, so that one iz glibc bug too | 09:55 |
| jbailey | elmo: You need the -13 I gave you. | 09:55 |
| elmo | and I believe there's a patch, do you know about it? | 09:55 |
| jbailey | It has that fix in it already. | 09:55 |
| elmo | meh, seriously? gar | 09:55 |
| elmo | oh, well, I'll restart that in a screen session | 09:55 |
| fabbione | WOWOOOO | 09:58 |
| fabbione | GO GCC! | 09:58 |
| fabbione | gcc: Internal error: Segmentation fault (program as) | 09:58 |
| jbailey | fabbione: that's binutils, dude. | 09:58 |
| jbailey | The segfault bubbled up from as. | 09:59 |
| fabbione | i don't think that chroot has been updated actually | 09:59 |
| lamont-away | elmo: floe is once again sane | 10:05 |
| fabbione | elmo: do you know if Karl is around? | 10:14 |
| fabbione | he did ping me yesterday even.. | 10:14 |
| fabbione | ponged this morning | 10:14 |
| fabbione | but no answer from him all day | 10:14 |
| jbailey | I have glibc on amd64 now with my -13 + the patch drow mentioned for amd64 | 10:16 |
| jbailey | binutils still building on i386 | 10:17 |
| jbailey | err | 10:17 |
| jbailey | ppc | 10:17 |
| jbailey | elmo: I seem to be getting the same message even with the new binutils on ppc | 10:30 |
| jbailey | ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/bind.S: Messages de l'assembleur: | 10:30 |
| jbailey | ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/bind.S:5: ERREUR: symbole __bind est dj dfini | 10:30 |
| jbailey | err | 10:30 |
| jbailey | symbol is already defined. | 10:30 |
| jbailey | Eh, weird. on amd64 if doesn't using sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/bind.S | 10:53 |
| elmo | fabbione: we've been in meetings all day; he's clocked off now, I suspect | 11:10 |
| elmo | lamont-away: thanks | 11:10 |
| elmo | jbailey: ok, are we sure there isn't a patch for that one too? :) | 11:10 |
| elmo | hmm, no unfortunately not | 11:11 |
| fabbione | elmo: thanks, he did ping me back again :) | 11:12 |
| fabbione | i tought it was under your input :) | 11:12 |
| lamont-away | elmo: I didn't bother to count higher than 4 buildds running there... | 11:14 |
| elmo | duh, the glibc build for i386 failed just like amd64 | 11:25 |
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| elmo | jbailey: glibc builds for i386 fails in the same way as amd64 - obviously ;) | 11:28 |
| elmo | is the bind.S thing maybe because it's not in powerpc's syscall list?<random and uneducated guess> | 11:29 |
| jbailey | Could easily be. I'm just testing the ppc64 kernel for ben atm. | 11:30 |
| elmo | if you have a dpatch for amd64, I'm happy to test that, FWIW | 11:31 |
| jbailey | concordia:~jbailey/amd64/glibc/glibc-2.3.5/debian/patches/ubuntu-new-binutils.dpatch | 11:32 |
| jbailey | That replaces the old ubuntu-new-binutils.dpatch | 11:33 |
| elmo | ok, rebuilding on amd64 | 11:36 |
| jbailey | elmo: You're testing the new binutils? | 11:36 |
| elmo | oh, good point, err, yes | 11:36 |
| elmo | I suppose I should downgrade | 11:37 |
| jbailey | Well, it built fine in the dapper chroot you made for me. | 11:37 |
| jbailey | So no point in repeating that test. | 11:37 |
| elmo | oh | 11:37 |
| jbailey | My brain is spacy, so I'm just trying to make sure I have some clue as to what's happening. =) | 11:37 |
| elmo | sweet | 11:39 |
| elmo | I get a different error with dapper binutils on ppc | 11:39 |
| elmo | ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/getsockname.S: Assembler messages: | 11:39 |
| elmo | ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/getsockname.S:5: Error: symbol `__getsockname' is already defined | 11:39 |
| elmo | will that go away if I upgrade binutils? | 11:39 |
| elmo | I'm getting so confused by all the versions and patches flying around here | 11:39 |
| jbailey | Err. | 11:41 |
| jbailey | bind.S passed for you? | 11:42 |
| jbailey | Or are you on an SMP machine that happened to get a bit further? | 11:42 |
| jbailey | getsockname.S and bind.S are basically the same code. | 11:42 |
| elmo | ah, yeah, it's davis | 11:42 |
| elmo | (which is SMP) | 11:42 |
| jbailey | Right. Look at the build log just before that and see if bind.S failed also. | 11:42 |
| jbailey | If it passed then I'm *very* confused. | 11:43 |
| jbailey | But it's the exactly same problem. | 11:43 |
| elmo | oh, eww | 11:43 |
| jbailey | The nice part is it looks like the weak reference is the correct one (per the current symbol set) | 11:43 |
| elmo | it died for the 32 bit build | 11:43 |
| elmo | but didn't kill the build | 11:43 |
| jbailey | Um, yeah. THere's a small bug in the packaging. | 11:43 |
| elmo | symbol `__bind' is already defined | 11:43 |
| elmo | make[3] : *** [/home/james/scratch/glibc-2.3.5/build-tree/powerpc-libc/socket/bind.o] Error 1 | 11:43 |
| elmo | touch /home/james/scratch/glibc-2.3.5/stamp-dir/build_libc | 11:43 |
| elmo | ok | 11:43 |
| jbailey | The error code gets eaten by tee. | 11:44 |
| jbailey | elmo: Good guess on the syscall. | 11:46 |
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