[12:00] <jcole> robotgeek: got any urls that talk about setting up a bluetooth network interface in ubuntu?
[12:00] <Sarvell> its a blackbird chip but dontknow how to install the drivers   detected as winfast 2000xp
[12:00] <dooglus> what's the best way to do 1) without doing 2) first?
[12:00] <cafuego> dooglus: googlus
[12:00] <trappist> heh.
[12:00] <robotgeek> jcole: there are a couple on the wiki, use the text search function
[12:00] <Inchabod> Seveas, It won't wreck anything will it and I can uninstall it after if I want?
[12:01] <Moo-> jcole: i yesterday read from ubuntu release notes that bluetooth support was scheduled for the next release (couldn't make into breezy). however, ubuntu install applications show some bluetooth packages.
[12:01] <tarheelcoxn> Sarvell: the windows drivers don't do you any good
[12:01] <jcole> robotgeek: ok, will do
[12:01] <Sarvell> i figured as much
[12:01] <Seveas> Moo-, breezy has some bluetooth support
[12:01] <Sarvell> know how to install the cx88 drivers?
[12:01] <Inchabod> Seveas, It won't wreck anything will it and I can uninstall it after if I want?
[12:01] <Seveas> I use the dapper packages on breezy though
[12:01] <NightBird> what is the default guest password?
[12:02] <cafuego> Sarvell: What does 'lspci' have to say about the device?
[12:02] <Seveas> Inchabod, no it won't and yes you can
[12:02] <Seveas> NightBird, ??
[12:02] <NightBird> I'm trying to setup smb, and I see that it's configured to let a guest account..
[12:02] <Seveas> there is no guest
[12:02] <Sarvell> 0000:02:0b.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Winfast TV2000 XP (rev 05)
[12:02] <Sarvell> 0000:02:0b.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant: Unknown device 8802 (rev 05)
[12:02] <Seveas> ghe, conexant
[12:02] <robotgeek> Sarvell: don't paste in here
[12:02] <cafuego> robotgeek: I asked him, yell at me.
[12:02] <Sarvell> sorry didnt know
[12:02] <Seveas> conexant are a buch of lousy bastards
[12:02] <cafuego> Seveas: hear hear
[12:03] <tarheelcoxn> lol
[12:03] <robotgeek> cafuego: i tht he was gonna paste the whole thing
[12:03] <cafuego> But i have not as of yet heard of a WinPvr ;-)
[12:03] <NightBird> ok, so how would I add users to it?
[12:03] <Inchabod> Seveas, Is there a lite version?
[12:03] <Seveas> Sarvell, don't waste more time - give it up
[12:03] <Inchabod> Without downloading all the aps with it.
[12:03] <cafuego> Sarvell: Can you paste just the output of the 0000:02:0b.0 line from 'lspci -n' ?
[12:03] <Sarvell> lol cant do it
[12:03] <Sarvell> thats not what you wanted?
[12:03] <Seveas> Sarvell, you will *never* get this POS to work with linux
[12:04] <gnomefreak> Seveas is booting himself?:(
[12:04] <cafuego> Sarvell: Well, I'd prefer the PCI ID and not the string :-)
[12:04] <cafuego> gnomefreak: he deserved it
[12:04] <navarone> gnomefreak> he must be doublejointed
[12:04] <doodz> what do you do with binary files ?
[12:04] <Sarvell> ok not familiar brand new lemme see
[12:04] <doodz> is there some way or running htem
[12:04] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:04] <fmasi> enny one coul help me with instaling feather linux in my pendriver i having problem whith syslinux
[12:04] <Seveas> doodz, eat them with yoghurt
[12:04] <cafuego> doodz: that depends on whether they're executable or data
[12:05] <doodz> how do you tell
[12:05] <Inchabod> Seveas, apt-get install kde-core, is that a version without all the applications?
[12:05] <cafuego> doodz: 'file <filename>'
[12:05] <Sarvell> cafuego how do i know which one?
[12:05] <doodz> thats a command ?
[12:05] <cafuego> Sarvell: It starts with '0000:02:0b.0'
[12:05] <Seveas> Inchabod, wouldn't really no, I refuse to use anythng that starts with a K (apart from the kernel)
[12:05] <cafuego> doodz: oddly, yes
[12:05] <gnomefreak> Inchabod, kde-base is without most of apps if i remember right
[12:05] <doodz> hehe thanks
[12:05] <Sarvell> 0000:02:0b.0 0400: 14f1:8800 (rev 05)
[12:05] <cafuego> thankyou.
[12:06] <Inchabod> gnomefreak, Is it possible to go back to gnome afte rinsalling it?
[12:06] <Inchabod> installing it*
[12:06] <Sarvell> cafuego that it?
[12:06] <Seveas> sure
[12:06] <Seveas> you can choose when you login
[12:06] <Seveas> you can even have both installed
[12:06] <gnomefreak> Inchabod,  go back to gnome? just login to gnome when done if not already there
[12:06] <cafuego> Sarvell: The 4vl drivers ought to pick that thing up
[12:06] <Inchabod> Hmm gnomefreak, kde-base isn't a package >.<
[12:07] <gnomefreak> Inchabod, is the reason your getting kde-base is for a k app?
[12:07] <Inchabod> kde-core is, kde-core - The K Desktop Environment (Core)
[12:07] <Sarvell> they pick up what i pasted first time
[12:07] <Inchabod> gnomefreak, Yeah for the kde gui.
[12:07] <Sarvell> seems to be good but get no tv signal
[12:07] <Stormx3> Joy. It hasn't kicked Stormx2 off when i disconnected.
[12:07] <Stormx2> oh good.
[12:07] <gnomefreak> did you try sudo apt-get install kde? Inchabod
[12:07] <dash> hooray, 2.6.15 in dapper
[12:08] <fmasi> I nead helpiinstaling feather linux on my pendrive http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4647
[12:08] <cafuego> Sarvell: Which kernel you on?
[12:08] <dash> it doesn't have ieee80211 in it though :(
[12:08] <Stormx2> Ubuntu 6.10 should be Funky Fox
[12:08] <Sarvell> latest and greatest just installed yesterday
[12:08] <dash> Stormx2: Snarky Sandhog
[12:08] <Seveas> fmasi, then go to a feather linux channel, this channel is for Ubuntu support
[12:08] <funkyHat> Stormx2, NOO, it shouldn't.
[12:08] <cafuego> Yes, but an actual version number would be a much more useful rsponse.
[12:08] <gnomefreak> isnt odd number kernels betas?
[12:08] <dash> gnomefreak: no
[12:08] <funkyHat> Stormx2, you know why? because i have funky set to one of my beeps on X-Chat
[12:09] <cafuego> gnomefreak: odd MIDDLE digit, previously.
[12:09] <funkyHat> and i would DIE OF INSANITY
[12:09] <Sarvell> thats  short for i have no idea....
[12:09] <navarone> Its my understanding that after approx 23 reboots a ext2 based system performs a file system check...how long would that take on a 13+ gig partition?
[12:09] <fmasi> Seveas what is the channel name i cant find it i use ubuntu thats wy i came hear sory
[12:09] <Stormx2> dash: Is it actually called that/
[12:09] <cafuego> Sarvell: 'uname -r' will tell you.
[12:09] <dash> Stormx2: No.
[12:09] <Seveas> navarone, few minutes (3 or 4)
[12:09] <navarone> okie
[12:09] <dash> Stormx2: Last I heard, jdub was lobbying for Perky Penguin
[12:09] <Seveas> fmasi, I don't know
[12:09] <Stormx2> Yay!
[12:09] <Seveas> go to the featherlinux website or something
[12:09] <Stormx2> I want funky fox though ;-)
[12:09] <poningru> fmasi: what are you looking for?
[12:09] <poningru> ah
[12:09] <funkyHat> :P
[12:09] <cafuego> dash: Now that he's lost his perky pants I think he'lld rop that request
[12:09] <gnomefreak> channel for #featherlinux?
[12:09] <funkyHat> ow
[12:09] <sam__> hello, gnome is taking ages to start, my ~/.xsession-errors log is http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/432399 if someone would be kind enough to tell me how to fix please
[12:10] <Stormx2> Dapper Drake is a bad name methinks :(
[12:10] <Sarvell> 2.6.12-9-386
[12:10] <dash> cafuego: what happened to the pants?!
[12:10] <fmasi> i having problems whith syslinux
[12:10] <cafuego> dash: Check teh blog :-)
[12:10] <fmasi> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4647
[12:10] <Ophiocus> how do i set up a "groupname to log on to windows networks?
[12:10] <lightbright> if I want to make my whole /home and all the subdirectories fully accessible to username, whats the command please?
[12:10] <lightbright> bimberi: if I want to make my whole /home and all the subdirectories fully accessible to username, whats the command please?
[12:10] <dooglus> the ubuntu version names are supposed to be going in alphabetical order now.
[12:10] <dooglus> breezy, dapper, ...
[12:11] <Jerr> ok
[12:11] <Jerr> I get this problem that every flash movie I watch becomes off-sync
[12:11] <cafuego> Sarvell: OK. When the cx88 driver loads, does it print anything like "Your board isn't known (yet) to the driver."  in the output of 'dmesg' ? (Please use http://paste.ubuntu.linux.nl if required)
[12:11] <gnomefreak> the name dapper drake may change when it is released
[12:11] <dash> cafuego: well, at least spacepants.org is still there
[12:11] <Seveas> |sam|, is the 'lo' interface up?
[12:11] <yohan> i have a broken divx movie id like to fix, in windows id use divxfix but what do i use in linux?
[12:11] <yohan> please!
[12:11] <Jerr> like sound is a little backwards than video
[12:11] <yohan> i have a broken divx movie id like to fix, in windows id use divxfix but what do i use in linux?
[12:11] <Stormx2> !divx
[12:11] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:11] <lightbright> bimberi: some of my files that I copied from another hard drive are set as root in my /home!  so how can I change the whole /home to username instead of root?
[12:11] <Jerr> only in flash though
[12:12] <lightbright> gnomefreak: any ideas?
[12:12] <Janbanan> My windows disapear to the right when i minimize them. whats wrong?
[12:12] <|sam|> Seveas 'lo'? im not sure. i just installed ubuntu
[12:12] <Seveas> lightbright, sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~
[12:12] <gnomefreak> lightbright,  ideas on what?
[12:12] <Sarvell> cafuego if you mean in startup script no, how do i check dmesg?
[12:12] <bimberi> lightbright: ah, you probably want to do that to just your home dir, not all of /home (see Seveas' post)
[12:12] <cafuego> Sarvell: You run 'dmesg'
[12:12] <lightbright> Seveas: my username is lisa, so would I type: "sudo chown -R $lisa:$lisa ~"  ?
[12:12] <Seveas> no
[12:12] <gnomefreak> Janbanan,  do you see a panel on the side of your screen?
[12:12] <yohan> nobody has had this problem? :/
[12:12] <fdr> ubotu, !FreeFormats
[12:12] <ubotu> fdr: I give up, what is it?
[12:13] <Seveas> sudo chown -R lisa:lisa /home/lisa
[12:13] <ni1s> Jerr, Your basicly screwd, that bug is infamous and there seams to be no fix for it
[12:13] <fdr> !FreeFormats
[12:13] <ubotu> [freeformats]  There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[12:13] <Inchabod> I think i'll stick with gnome but doesn anyone know if there is any apts for getting theme packs in gnome?
[12:13] <lightbright> Seveas: ok thank you very much :)
[12:13] <Janbanan> No
[12:13] <Jerr> !wine
[12:13] <mcrawfor> hey guys, in my gnome terminal, it defaults to "Current Locale" for the character set instead of utf8, though both are in the menu... can I get it to use utf8 instead?
[12:13] <dash> Inchabod: there's a few themes, yes
[12:13] <Sarvell> cafeugo it prints this several times   [4304310.665000]  cx88[0] : irq pci [0x1001]  vid brdg_err*
[12:13] <Sarvell> [4304310.665000]  cx88[0] : irq vid [0x20000]  par_err*
[12:13] <gnomefreak> Inchabod,  there are a few do a search in synaptic to find them
[12:13] <Janbanan> I did make some changes to the panel before but i can't rememver what
[12:14] <gnomefreak> Janbanan, sounds like you added one. do you still see the one on the bottom and top?
[12:14] <lightbright> Seveas: what a great command, worked like a charm :)  thanks!  now I can access and write to all my folders in /home/lisa
[12:14] <Janbanan> Yes
[12:14] <ni1s> Funny thing though, when watching a flash movie thats getting out of sync, right click -> Setting and slide the local storage bar back and forward and the flash movies sound gets in sync! It's a amazing bug, isnt it!
[12:14] <Janbanan> I did add one. But I don't see it
[12:14] <cafuego> Sarvell: ANything about a card type being delected in dmesg | grep 'card='
[12:14] <Sarvell> hold on
[12:15] <gnomefreak> ok right click the panel on right and you should see delete this panel
[12:15] <jcole> found good stuff on gentoos wiki on bluetooth
[12:15] <gnomefreak> Janbanan,  what do you mean you dont see it i thought the apps were docking to the right?
[12:15] <Sarvell> cafuego no output
[12:16] <cafuego> Sarvell: Hmm.
[12:16] <Janbanan> It docks to the right corner. Can't see them, can't clkick them
[12:16] <ni1s> Jerr, see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219625 , there might be something useful for you there
[12:16] <Janbanan> Have to use alt + tab
[12:16] <dash> anyone else upgraded to latest kernel in dapper today?
[12:16] <|sam|> Seveas; i just installed ubuntu from server install then ran apt-get install x-window-system-core gnome-session gnome-applets nautilus metacity xscreensacer gdm gedit gnometerminal hal
[12:16] <cafuego> Sarvell: Yours was the ASUS 416 right?
[12:16] <Sarvell> yes
[12:16] <dash> Seveas: btw thanks for packaging freenx :)
[12:17] <cafuego> Sarvell: Casn you run 'echo "options cx88 card=12" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/cx88'
[12:18] <GTswagger> I think you guys will find this amusing.....
[12:18] <Seveas> |sam|, you will need more
[12:18] <GTswagger> If the open source LAME mp3 encoder wins a lawsuit against Sony for violating the GPL and stealing their code; and they win the maximum amount per violation ($150,000), then based on known Sony sales that violate the GPL, Sony will be fined damages totaling more than:   $450,000,000,000  ... JUST IN THE US ...
[12:18] <Sarvell> k
[12:18] <Seveas> why not install ubuntu-desktop?
[12:18] <dooglus> what's with all the breezy updates today?
[12:18] <Seveas> dooglus, ?
[12:18] <Seveas> there have been no updates today
[12:18] <cafuego> Sarvell: That will (on the next bootup) tell the driver that your card is the asus, which SHOULD make a difference
[12:18] <winston> Eolution error: Could not send message: Broken pipe
[12:18] <sorush20> what is a good blogging php package I can use as a templet so that I can run on my server?
[12:18] <dooglus> Seveas: I installed 9 new packages earlier, and now it's telling me to install a new 'acpi-support' too
[12:18] <navarone> GTswagger > I be tthe CEO is hitting the sake tonight
[12:18] <gnomefreak> Seveas, i had updates today
[12:18] <winston> Evolution that is
[12:18] <gnomefreak> i had 5
[12:18] <Seveas> hmm
[12:18] <gnomefreak> all libs
[12:19] <dooglus> Seveas: perhaps the updates are just for me?
[12:19] <robotgeek> sorush20: wordpress?
[12:19] <Seveas> my update-notifier is gone :)
[12:19] <lightbright> when I try to open a text file now it loads and loads and then stops and doesnt load it!  Whats wrong?
[12:19] <Kmos> any date to breezy backports start working ?
[12:19] <gnomefreak> lol Seveas
[12:19] <tarheelcoxn> lightbright: what app are you using?
[12:19] <winston> Sendmail doesnt seem to work on evo
[12:19] <Seveas> Kmos, several days ago...
[12:19] <lightbright> tarheelcoxn: im double clicking it on desktop
[12:19] <|sam|> Seveas; well apt should sort out dependecies, i just want ubuntu w/o all the junk like games, evolution and totem etc. i dont get whats missing, once its up it runs fine....
[12:19] <Kmos> Seveas: but it isn't working yet
[12:19] <gnomefreak> breezy backports are working see www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc/linux.htm
[12:20] <cafuego> No 2.4.15 ppc kernel; fascists!
[12:20] <tarheelcoxn> lightbright: open a terminal
[12:20] <bobbyd> hi
[12:20] <Seveas> gnomefreak, why such a weird site for official backports?
[12:20] <gnomefreak> they are my backports
[12:20] <gnomefreak> they work :)
[12:20] <bobbyd> can anyone help me with the problem described here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/transcode/+bug/3399
[12:20] <robzon> hi
[12:20] <tarheelcoxn> lightbright: cd Desktop
[12:20] <bobbyd> I don't know how to replace something in the source package
[12:20] <gnomefreak> -backports + sources list
[12:20] <robotgeek> cafuego: are u a ppc user. if so, /msg ubotu javappc for interesting updated info
[12:20] <bobbyd> do they mean the .deb file?
[12:20] <winston> can anyone help with an Evolution prob sending mail
[12:20] <Sarvell> cafuego: nos such file or directory
[12:20] <cafuego> robotgeek: I already have the IBM 1.5 java :-)
[12:20] <tarheelcoxn> lightbright: nano foo
[12:21] <navarone> Seveas> does the system/admin/services app show all services that are defined and running? It does not list firestarter...but i guess that can be a security measure?
[12:21] <Stormx2> Sleep time! Night all!
[12:21] <bobbyd> winston, what's the problem?
[12:21] <winston> Could not send message: Broken pipe
[12:21] <tarheelcoxn> lightbright: where foo is the name of your file
[12:21] <robotgeek> cafuego: the ffox plugin?
[12:21] <crimsun> bobbyd: I've already fixed that in Dapper.
[12:21] <winston> using sendmail doesnt seem to work (after a breezy install)
[12:21] <cafuego> Sarvell: D'oh,. Just edit /etc/modprobe.d/cx88 and add a line with "options cx88 card=12"
[12:21] <robzon> does ubuntu support reiser4? I mean, can I install ubuntu on reiser4 file system?
[12:21] <bobbyd> crimsun, what can I do about that?
[12:21] <cafuego> robotgeek: Ooh! No!
[12:21] <Seveas> navarone, firestarter is not a service
[12:21] <nalioth> robzon: it does
[12:21] <lightbright> no text editor will load at all!
[12:21] <Seveas> the firewall is in the kernel
[12:21] <Sarvell> k hold on
[12:22] <nalioth> robzon: why you'd want reiser4 is beyond me, but have fun!
[12:22] <tarheelcoxn> lightbright: what happened when you tried what I just described?
[12:22] <robotgeek> cafuego: just updated the article. apparently, the plugin was in there all along!
[12:22] <dash> robzon: i would recommend against it
[12:22] <lightbright> tarheelcoxn: why wont it load any text editor?
[12:22] <lightbright> tarheelcoxn:  I dont want to use nano, I want to use gedit
[12:22] <navarone> Seveas >but doesn't it run as a service if you install from binary...? That's what the page i have been perusing states
[12:22] <robzon> nalioth: thanks.. just want to test it on a separate partition :)
[12:22] <Seveas> navarone, then that page is wrong
[12:22] <crimsun> bobbyd: either build it yourself using Dapper source, or wait for the Breezy backport
[12:22] <tarheelcoxn> lightbright: we're trying to figure out what the problem is
[12:22] <Seveas> firestarter is merely a frontend
[12:22] <lightbright> tarheelcoxn: what causes ubuntu to stop responding to loading text editor?
[12:22] <bobbyd> crimsun, how would I do the first option?
[12:22] <Seveas> the actual firewall is called netfilter and resides in the kernel
[12:22] <robzon> dash: sure, I won't use it for stable system.. just want to check its performance
[12:22] <lightbright> tarheelcoxn: is that common?
[12:23] <bobbyd> crimsun, I know how to build stuff...
[12:23] <navarone> Seveas> does that mean firewall is only up and active when you start it from menu?
[12:23] <Seveas> firestarter uses iptables to control it
[12:23] <tarheelcoxn> lightbright: no
[12:23] <StDellis> Anyone know of a program to develop C++ I'm trying to learn it before I start my class in January so I know a basis
[12:23] <Seveas> navarone, no
[12:23] <winston> bobbyd: using sendmail doesnt seem to work (after a breezy install) -- Could not send message: Broken pipe --
[12:23] <dash> robzon: yeah, just use debootstrap if you want to make a new root
[12:23] <lightbright> tarheelcoxn: what would have caused it?
[12:23] <Seveas> it means you don't need to run that app for the firewall to start
[12:23] <cafuego> robotgeek: I have an odd error when not running java with the full pathname though.
[12:23] <crimsun> bobbyd: using a dapper pbuilder
[12:23] <tarheelcoxn> lightbright: any number of things...
[12:23] <TonySt> ...Ok, how do I compile in konsole? Yes, I know I should be going to #noob for this one, but it's been a while since i've been on linux.
[12:23] <gnomefreak> StDellis,  try anjuta, vi, or emacs
[12:23] <tarheelcoxn> lightbright: go to a command line and try this:
[12:23] <Sarvell> cafuego no quotes?
[12:23] <tarheelcoxn> lightbright: gedit foo
[12:23] <navarone> Seveas> Okay...i get it...firestarter is just gui to manipulate and config iptables
[12:23] <lightbright> tarheelcoxn: whats the solution besides rebooting?
[12:23] <robzon> ok :)
[12:23] <cafuego> Sarvell: no quotes
[12:23] <lightbright> tarheelcoxn: ok
[12:23] <robotgeek> cafuego: hmm, i have a java alias also set in my .bashrc, so i dunno abt that!
[12:23] <dash> StDellis: many successful programmers can work for years without needing to subject themselves to the pain of C++
[12:23] <Seveas> TonySt, gcc -o helloworld -c helloworld.c -Wall -O2
[12:24] <dash> StDellis: are you sure you can't avoid it?
[12:24] <StDellis> dash but my class is about programming C++
[12:24] <tarheelcoxn> lightbright: rebooting is a windows solution. you rarely need to reboot a linux machine
[12:24] <Sarvell> ok did that but it created a new file cause it was blank when i started
[12:24] <TonySt> Seveas: thanks
[12:24] <dash> StDellis: a reuqired class?
[12:24] <StDellis> dash yes
[12:24] <lightbright> tarheelcoxn: it wont load, saidXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[12:24] <lightbright> Xlib: No protocol specified
[12:24] <NightBird> for this smb share..
[12:24] <lvraab> is it possible to install KDE in Ubuntu??
[12:24] <lightbright> tarheelcoxn: (gedit:9015): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[12:24] <lvraab> without needing Kubuntu
[12:24] <cafuego> robotgeek: I get "JVM not found: libjvm.so  - libjvm.so"
[12:24] <nalioth> lvraab: yes, install "kubuntu-desktop"
[12:24] <Seveas> lvraab, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:24] <gnomefreak> dash: im getting into C++ after learning basics of C
[12:24] <jims> *** Can anyone help with installing madwifi vs. ndiswrapper for WLAN use?
[12:24] <tarheelcoxn> lightbright: now we know your problem :)
[12:24] <nalioth> lvraab: woops, yes it is
[12:24] <dash> gnomefreak: i'm sorry
[12:24] <nalioth> lvraab: use synaptic
[12:25] <robotgeek> cafuego: hmm, yes..me too. weird
[12:25] <lightbright> tarheelcoxn: tell me please :)
[12:25] <lvraab> Seaveas, nalioth: thanks
[12:25] <winston> can anyone help with an Evolution prob sending mail
[12:25] <dash> gnomefreak: learn python instead, you can do a lot more with it easier
[12:25] <gnomefreak> lol dash it seems ok lil much like C tho
[12:25] <Delvien> Anyone here work on a Laptop?
[12:25] <dash> gnomefreak: it has all of the same problems as C
[12:25] <Siph0n> C# is also probally easier
[12:25] <dash> Delvien: i do
[12:25] <robotgeek> cafuego: alias java='/opt/ibm-java2-ppc-50/bin/java'
[12:25] <lightbright> tarheelcoxn: any solution?
[12:25] <tarheelcoxn> lightbright: gedit isn't playing nice with Xorg. likely you have a permissions problem
[12:25] <dash> Siph0n: it is, but why bother when there's python?
[12:25] <Sarvell> cafuego: that all i need then?
[12:25] <nrunge> I am having difficulties installing the Nvidia binary driver under 5.10
[12:25] <lightbright> tarheelcoxn: and whats the solution?
[12:25] <Siph0n> lol dunno...
[12:26] <Seveas> ahem, programming language fights -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:26] <grace_> holy crap bat man
[12:26] <gnomefreak> dash i wanted to take the java classes this jan. than learn python cause it looks alot like java
[12:26] <tarheelcoxn> lightbright: I dunno off the top of my head
[12:26] <Seveas> gnomefreak, python looks NOTHING like java...
[12:26] <dash> gnomefreak: eh. except it doesn't :)
[12:26] <Sarvell> nrunge: did you follow the wiki?
[12:26] <lightbright> tarheelcoxn: even if I use root, it said: (gedit:9028): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[12:26] <grace_> /tmp/.kde-root is 18Gigs
[12:26] <dooglus> nothing looks much like python really.
[12:26] <nrunge> Sarvell: yes
[12:26] <grace_> what the hell is it doing with 18gigs of tmp usage
[12:26] <tarheelcoxn> anybody following lightbright's problem?
[12:26] <dash> gnomefreak: on average, python programs will get the same amount of stuff done in 3-5x less code than java
[12:26] <winston> can anyone help with an Evolution prob sending mail
[12:26] <nickrud> lightbright, are you trying to start gedit from a console? or as root in a terminal?
[12:26] <robotgeek> cafuego: alias java='/opt/ibm-java2-ppc-50/bin/java' in your .bashrc
[12:26] <dooglus> Java looks more like C++ than either look like python
[12:26] <lightbright> Seveas: any solutions to get gedit to work?
[12:26] <Seveas> lightbright, as *normal user* sudo gedit works
[12:26] <StDellis> dash and gnomefreak the only thing is is that I've never done any programming at all so you know of any eBooks I should be looking at
[12:26] <Sarvell> nrunge: what problems i just did it and it worked fine
[12:26] <dash> StDellis: _Alice In Wonderland_, probably
[12:26] <lightbright> nickrud: I tried both ways to no avail!  any ideas?
[12:27] <tarheelcoxn> lightbright: are you logged in as yourself?
[12:27] <grace_> theres like hundreds of files laying around in /tmp
[12:27] <Inchabod> Is GTK Gnome?
[12:27] <dash> StDellis: seriously though
[12:27] <nickrud> lightbright, those won't work :)
[12:27] <nrunge> Sarvell: the xorg logs look like an error while trying to initialize GLX
[12:27] <Inchabod> J/w I never knew lol
[12:27] <dash> StDellis: C++ may warp you for life
[12:27] <pat_> l
[12:27] <dash> Inchabod: gnome uses gtk
[12:27] <grace_> soaked up the drive to no free space
[12:27] <nickrud> lightbright, just open a regular terminal, as your usual user, then try gedit
[12:27] <dooglus> Inchabod: GTK is Gimp
[12:27] <lightbright> Seveas: when I type sudo gedit, it says: (gedit:9029): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[12:27] <doodz> where can i go to read about what binary is and how to run it, my binary in specific here is an executable
[12:27] <dooglus> Gimp ToolKit
[12:27] <StDellis> dash I need to take this class I'm in first year engineering and the courses are ALL manditory
[12:27] <Seveas> lightbright, as ****normal user****
[12:27] <gnomefreak> StDellis, what language?   maybe learn shell scripting if new to linux?
[12:27] <grace_> what ever happened to temp clean up
[12:27] <dash> StDellis: yeah, i know, i got a CS degree myself
[12:27] <Sarvell> nrunge: did you do the whole change nv to nvidia thing?
[12:27] <Seveas> not wen you already are root
[12:28] <lightbright> Seveas: i tried that as normal user, same thing
[12:28] <Sarvell> cafuego: was that all i needed to do?
[12:28] <lightbright> Seveas: in fact nothing loads now, not even a terminal
[12:28] <nrunge> Sarvell: yes, I commented out DRI and all the correct packages are installed. I just updated from 5.04 to 5.10. It worked fine before.
[12:28] <tarheelcoxn> lightbright: how are you logged in?
[12:28] <Seveas> did you fiddle with xhost?
[12:28] <nickrud> lightbright, applications->systemtools->terminal, try gedit in that on
[12:28] <nickrud> *one
[12:28] <marlun> Is there any other music player that plays streams I get from streamtuner then XMMS? I don't want the players to look like winamp, I want it to look very basic like Gamp :)
[12:28] <gnomefreak> i was gonna go for the CS degree but some of the classes that are manditory seemed almost useless
[12:28] <jims> I'm sorry if someone replied to my first request for help with madwifi, as soon as my message as sent, I got stalled by my wireless card...
[12:28] <lightbright> tarheelcoxn:  loged in as user!  in fact I didnt think you can log into Ubuntu as root anyway
[12:28] <jasongrieves> is there a way to capture the X screen 0.0 onto the VFB?
[12:28] <StDellis> gnomefreak and dash well I'm install anjunta right now and got C++ for dummies off the internet
[12:28] <dash> StDellis: probably the best thing you could do is learn a different language first
[12:29] <jasongrieves> is there a way to capture the X screen 0.0 onto the VFB say on :1.0 ?
[12:29] <tarheelcoxn> lightbright: you're logged in as the user you created during the install process?
[12:29] <nickrud> marlun, you can tell streamtuner to run a variety of apps, it's in the preferences somewhere
[12:29] <lightbright> nickrud: I dont have a  applications->systemtools->terminal
[12:29] <Sarvell> nrunge: i dont know, i installed through the synaptic and edited the line and it worked great   sorry
[12:29] <dash> StDellis: the thing is, C++ is a pretty huge language
[12:29] <gnomefreak> StDellis, good luck that book talks more about winblows than linux
[12:29] <mindtzar> how would I install xlib?
[12:29] <nickrud> lightbright, hoary?
[12:29] <mindtzar> sudo apt-get xlib
[12:29] <lightbright> tarheelcoxn: I loged in as user I created during install
[12:29] <mindtzar> or something?
[12:29] <lightbright> nick_: breeze
[12:29] <dash> StDellis: the stuff in any book you read will probably be different from what your teacher tells you
[12:29] <Seveas> dash, StDellis can you plaese take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:29] <dash> Seveas: i'm done
[12:29] <lightbright> nickrud: I dont have a  terminal in applications->systemtools
[12:30] <bimberi> lightbright: applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[12:30] <nickrud> lightbright, if you're on hoary, it's applications-accessories-terminal, if I remember correctly
[12:30] <lightbright> my whole breeze crashed :(  nothing loads
[12:30] <dooglus> lightbright: it's applications->accs
[12:30] <jims> Can anyone help with installing madwifi?  Or another alternative to ndiswrapper?
[12:30] <lightbright> nick_: breeze
[12:30] <Seveas> jims, madwifi isn't an alternative to ndiswrapper...
[12:30] <tarheelcoxn> jims: me
[12:30] <jasongrieves> is there a way to capture the X screen 0.0 onto the VFB say on :1.0 ?
[12:30] <bimberi> lightbright: you're going to have to use nickr<tab> :)
[12:30] <tarheelcoxn> jims: you want the package module-assistant
[12:31] <lightbright> i cant even load evolution or anything!  seems I need to reboot after all
[12:31] <Siph0n> lol i FINALLY beat the connect 4 game in ubuntu! :)
[12:31] <tarheelcoxn> jims: you also want the headers for your kernel
[12:31] <bimberi> lightbright: try logout/login before reboot
[12:31] <jims> Seveas: Ubuntu is using ndis for my wireless card as default.
[12:31] <lightbright> is this normal for the whole system to stop loading anything?
[12:31] <joebu23> newb here, how to run ssh in ubuntu t.10
[12:31] <guest> does anyone know how to make beagle index Microsoft Word files?
[12:31] <Delvien> anyone with a laptop problem of backlight staying on when lid is closed or computer is stationary for a time?
[12:31] <marlun> nickrud, yes I know I can tell it to run different apps, but I tried to make banshee play it but it doesn't seem like banshee support playing radio streams?
[12:31] <lightbright> bimberi:  was this caused because I changed permissions in my whole /home?
[12:32] <dash> Delvien: hmm, nope, my thinkpad does just fine. what kind of lappy do you have?
[12:32] <joebu23> sorry, 5.1
[12:32] <robotgeek> cafuego: i gotta run now, keep me posted
[12:32] <Delvien> dash dell
[12:32] <nickrud> marlun, I haven't tried very may apps with streamtuner, maybe there's some info on the net about streamtuner->banshee connectivity
[12:32] <jims> tarheelcoxn: Will the package module-assistant update drivers or softwar to improve my ability to keep a WLAN connection?
[12:32] <lightbright> Seveas:   was this caused because I changed permissions in my whole /home?
[12:33] <tarheelcoxn> jims: no. module-assistant will help you build kernel modules
[12:33] <Seveas> lightbright, no
[12:33] <dash> Delvien: does any of the acpi stuff work?
[12:33] <nickrud> marlun, I useally use bmp, with it minimized so I don't see it
[12:33] <bimberi> lightbright: not if that chown command was done right
[12:33] <lightbright> bimberi: i used the command I was given
[12:33] <tarheelcoxn> jims: you want to download the madwifi source and build a kernel module to run your card
[12:33] <Delvien> dash Yep
[12:33] <bimberi> lightbright: then no :)
[12:33] <tarheelcoxn> jims: you do have an atheros card, yes?
[12:33] <joebu23> where is ssh client in ubuntu 5.10
[12:33] <lightbright> wel, thats weird then!  nothing is responding or opening
[12:33] <Delvien> dash the monitor turns off, but backlight doesnt turn off
[12:33] <cory> when i run the network-assistant and configure my ralink 2570 usb wifi card, the kernel crashes; yet when i configure it manually using iwconfig, it works just fine. How do i get network-admin to work without crashing?
[12:33] <lightbright> I have no option than to reboot
[12:33] <dash> Delvien: well that's weird
[12:34] <jeanluc> whats a good ftp client?
[12:34] <tarheelcoxn> joebu23: openssh-client
[12:34] <marlun> nickrud, with what minimized? =)
[12:34] <dash> Delvien: does suspend or hibernate work?
[12:34] <bimberi> lightbright: try logout/login first
[12:34] <lightbright> bye as I have to reboot
[12:34] <dash> jeanluc: nautilus? ;)
[12:34] <nickrud> lightbright, post the output of ls -d .gnome2 (should be only one line)
[12:34] <lightbright> bimberi:  but I lose my modem connection
[12:34] <jims> tarheelcoxn: I am a newbie to Linux and Ubuntu, so source builds are a bit intimidating...
[12:34] <dash> jeanluc: or commandline, lftp
[12:34] <jeanluc> I want a GUI one
[12:34] <nickrud> marlun, bmp, of course.
[12:34] <tarheelcoxn> jims: that's what module-assistant is for
[12:34] <lightbright> nickrud: I cant, because I cant even load a shell
[12:34] <dash> jeanluc: nautilus, then.
[12:34] <marlun> nickrud, oh ok :P sorry
[12:34] <jeanluc> ok
[12:34] <tarheelcoxn> jims: there's no other way to use madwifi
[12:34] <lightbright> nickrud: nothing wil load!
[12:34] <bimberi> lightbright: surely not if you just log out of gnome
[12:35] <nickrud> lightbright, ctl-alt-f1, try logging in there
[12:35] <jims> tarheelcoxn: Will the module assistant get the source like 'apt-get'?
[12:35] <joebu23> where is that located?
[12:35] <lightbright> bimberi: so I chose System and log out?
[12:35] <tarheelcoxn> jims: no, but the source is really easy to google up
[12:35] <tarheelcoxn> :)
[12:36] <lightbright> nickrud: I did ctl-alt-f1 and entered username and password, and then what?
[12:36] <remote> hello fellow ubuntu-ers
[12:36] <bimberi> yes, although what nickrud's suggesting is worth a try
[12:36] <jims> tarheelcoxn: Will building madwifi automatically make it the default for my wireless card?
[12:36] <tarheelcoxn> jims: no, but that's one easy extra step
[12:36] <tarheelcoxn> jims: you want to go to http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi
[12:36] <nickrud> lightbright, then, if you get a command prompt, ls -d .gnome2, it should be one line. That will show what your permissions are on a gnome directory (a start)
[12:37] <Delvien> dash suspend and hibernate do not work
[12:37] <bimberi> nickrud -ld?
[12:37] <remote> I also cannot suspend or hibernate
[12:37] <tarheelcoxn> jims: under the "Repository" heading you'll see two lines starting with "deb"
[12:37] <nickrud> bimberi, thanks for the catch :)
[12:37] <remote> well, I can't wake up from it anyway....
[12:37] <tarheelcoxn> jims: add those lines to /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:37] <lightbright> nickrud: the output was ".gnome2"
[12:37] <bimberi> nickrud: np :)
[12:37] <remote> I end up having to power my computer off and on
[12:38] <tarheelcoxn> jims: then have synaptic do an update
[12:38] <nickrud> lightbright, ls -ld .gnome2, courtesy of bimberi
[12:38] <lightbright> nickrud: I typed: ls -d .gnome2, and  the output was ".gnome2"
[12:38] <lightbright> nickrud: ok brb
[12:38] <regeya> remote: I just popped in.  are you having problems with random lockups?
[12:38] <tarheelcoxn> jims: after you've done that, you can use synaptic/aptitude/apt-get to get the madwifi source
[12:39] <lightbright> it said drwx------ 3 lisa lisa 4096
[12:39] <lightbright> nickrud: it said drwx------ 3 lisa lisa 4096
[12:39] <Sarvell> cafuego: hey i looked and the file cx88~ already had it   either way there are two files each with it and still nothing
[12:39] <Delvien> dash maybe the update will help :)
[12:39] <lightbright> nickrud: is that right?
[12:39] <Delvien> dash im running KDE :) but no one in #kubuntu knows
[12:40] <nickrud> lightbright, it's fine, just private.
[12:40] <lightbright> nickrud: any other ideas before I have to reboot?
[12:40] <lingoist> good evening! can anybody help me setting up my soundcard plz? I had to add it to hotplug blacklist in order to be able to start ubuntu
[12:40] <nickrud> lightbright, just relogin to gnome, see what happens.
[12:40] <bimberi> remote: i've found that a <CTRL><ALT>F1 then <CTRL><ALT>F7 gets X going again after suspend (on my laptop anyway)
[12:40] <nickrud> lightbright, rebooting is for changing kernels, or hardware screwups, not much else
[12:40] <lightbright> nickrud: System/Log out?
[12:40] <nickrud> lightbright, yes
[12:41] <tarheelcoxn> jims: the alternative if you don't want the most up-to-date version: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MoreRecentMadwifiHowto?highlight=%28madwifi%29
[12:41] <lightbright> ok i hope this doesnt hang up my modem
[12:41] <lightbright> brb
[12:41] <pavelich> can you run and executable in terminal
[12:41] <dooglus> Seveas: I'd update your system if I was you.  One of today's fixes was an "arbitrary code execution" hole.
[12:41] <pavelich> if so what command
[12:41] <lightbright> nickrud: do I need to exit F1 first?
[12:41] <dash> Delvien: sounds like it's ACPI related then
[12:41] <tarheelcoxn> pavelich: what are you trying to run?
[12:42] <dash> Delvien: since that is what's usually used to turn off backlights and such
[12:42] <nickrud> lightbright, no, you can leave that console open, if you like.
[12:42] <lightbright> nickrud: do I need to exit F1 screen before I relogin?
[12:42] <lightbright> nickrud: ok
[12:42] <lightbright> brb
[12:42] <tarheelcoxn> jims: did you already try what's shown in the wiki?
[12:42] <pavelich> ehh i just built a c++ prog and was curious how to run the executable i created instide the terminal
[12:42] <dooglus> pavelich: ./<executable-name>
[12:42] <pavelich> k thanks
[12:43] <lingoist> hm, no one able to help me to get a beep out of my sndcard?
[12:43] <HiddenWolf> tarheelcoxn, did you ever play online games? I knew a tarheel once...
[12:43] <dooglus> lingoist: try some kraftwork
[12:43] <HiddenWolf> lingoist, hit it with an hammer. :)
[12:43] <tarheelcoxn> HiddenWolf: nope
[12:43] <bobbyd> tarheelcoxn, you from NC?
[12:43] <tarheelcoxn> bobbyd: yep
[12:43] <bobbyd> tarheelcoxn, I was there last week, can't remember what the tar heel thing is about...
[12:43] <lingoist> hm, have to get a hammer tomorrow then :(
[12:44] <lingoist> or even worse just get back to windows
[12:44] <Delvien> dash any idea on what to check?
[12:44] <tarheelcoxn> bobbyd: Civil war. Southern general said of an NC regiment: "God Bless those tar heel boys."
[12:45] <tarheelcoxn> bobbyd: the NC regiment stayed even though the Virginia troops had retreated
[12:45] <lingoist> this is so sad
[12:45] <bobbyd> tarheelcoxn, ahh yes, I googled it now :)
[12:45] <tarheelcoxn> :)
[12:45] <bobbyd> tarheelcoxn, I went to the IMAX in raleigh :)
[12:46] <remote> can people tell me some cool stuff they are doing with Ubuntu
[12:46] <tarheelcoxn> remote: saving the world
[12:46] <remote> I want to learn more about amazing things I can do with this os
[12:46] <remote> so I can convert anyone
[12:46] <remote> saving the world - goodone!
[12:46] <zenrox> remote,  join #ubuntuforums
[12:46] <_mic_Alley>  /j #lfs
[12:46] <nickrud> lingoist, what kind of card (I only know a few)?
[12:46] <bobbyd> remote, writing apps, encoding video, composing music, writing documents, doing accounts, playing games. The things you would normally do with a PC :)
[12:47] <lingoist> snd-hda-intel
[12:47] <remote> hah
[12:47] <lingoist> nickrud: snd-hda-intel
[12:47] <sunshine82> does anyone has a w800 phone
[12:47] <nickrud> lingoist, not one I've used
[12:47] <lingoist> nickrud: i had to add it to blacklist in order to start ubuntu
[12:47] <remote> does anyone in here use bluetooth with ubuntu?
[12:47] <nadia> how can I mount a share drive (win share) from command line?
[12:47] <lingoist> nickrud: ok, thx anyways :(
[12:48] <Hobbsee> !tell nadia about mount
[12:48] <Siph0n> remote i have
[12:48] <nickrud> lingoist, I'll look around the net for a few minutes, see what I can see
[12:48] <lingoist> nickrud: thx a lot...do you speak german?
[12:48] <remote> I have ordered a usb bluetooth hub and a BT headset so I can use skype from my kitchen
[12:48] <chrisbudden14> How can I reset rhythmbox to as it was when it was first run>?
[12:48] <lingoist> nickrud: cuz i found something
[12:48] <Siph0n> used a blue tooth mouse...
[12:48] <remote> does BT work pretty well in Ubuntu?
[12:48] <nickrud> lingoist, no german
[12:48] <lingoist> nickrud: on the web
[12:48] <Siph0n> wasnt that hard to set up, just some googling :)
[12:49] <nadia> hobbsee, what does that mean?
[12:49] <DaSkreech> Siph0n: Great now apt-get install pente :)
[12:49] <Siph0n> dont remember the exact procedure to get it set up tho....
[12:49] <Siph0n> whats pente? :)
[12:49] <remote> also - when ripping cd's I am experiencing extremely slow cd read speeds
[12:49] <Hobbsee> nadia: are you registered?  you should have a PM from ubotu
[12:49] <bobbyd> remote, you need to make sure DMA is enabled on your CD drive
[12:49] <remote> like 1.1-1.2x, whereas in windows, I was getting like 8x ripping
[12:49] <nadia> I see now...  sorry... got it..
[12:49] <lingoist> nickrud: http://jeriko.l-tech.org/get-intels-hda-to-work-with-debian-sarge/
[12:50] <remote> bobbyd, can you help me make sure, I thought that was the default...
[12:50] <tarheelcoxn> remote: it's not the default (safety)
[12:50] <bobbyd> remote, in a console: hdparm -d /dev/cdrom
[12:50] <lingoist> nickrud: cant install kernel headers though
[12:50] <Siph0n> DaSkreech: what is pente?
[12:50] <bobbyd> remote,  if dma says 0 do: hdparm -d 1 /dev/cdrom
[12:50] <nadia> !windowdrives
[12:51] <ubotu> Wish i knew, nadia
[12:51] <remote> bobbyd, do you mind if we have private chat so you can walk me through this
[12:51] <nadia> hmm...  kay... guess I'm gonna be moving the drive out....
[12:51] <bobbyd> remote, yes, just do it in the chan :)
[12:51] <Hobbsee> !tell nadia about msgthebot
[12:51] <remote> bobbyd, sounds good - sorry about the output
[12:51] <nadia> chan?
[12:51] <bobbyd> remote, just open a console and do those commands with 'sudo' in front of them
[12:51] <DaSkreech> sunshine82: Argh!
[12:51] <tarheelcoxn> nadia: /msg nickserv register help
[12:52] <siropai> hi
[12:52] <paxmaster> my tape drive got mess up again
[12:52] <DaSkreech> Siph0n: It's a Greek version of Pente. Much Cooler and harder
[12:52] <bobbyd> remote, you should see transfer rates jump to 8x
[12:52] <Siph0n> k
[12:52] <remote> it is off, your are right
[12:52] <paxmaster> mt: /dev/st0: No such device or address
[12:52] <remote> brilliant channel
[12:52] <sunshine82> daskreech do u have one
[12:52] <tarheelcoxn> remote: who, us?
[12:53] <DaSkreech> Siph0n: You can steal the opponents pieces
[12:53] <DaSkreech> sunshine82: one?
[12:53] <bobbyd> remote, however i don't know the best way to enable it by default under ubuntu
[12:53] <paxmaster> crw-rw----  1 root tape 9, 0 2005-11-16 16:26 /dev/st0
[12:53] <sunshine82> daskreech a w800 phone
[12:53] <DaSkreech> Oh No
[12:53] <lingoist> nickrud: you gave up on me?
[12:53] <remote> what is the keepsettings flag in hdparm?
[12:54] <DaSkreech> Just I have a friend who goes by the name Sunshine92 so I keep seeing you login and perk up then realize that you aren't the sunshine I think you are
[12:54] <nickrud> lingoist, no, just reading. I've seen a couple of things that might lead me to something I understand enough to recommend :)
[12:54] <cafuego> remote: That'sa  flag you should NEVER use.
[12:54] <DaSkreech> sunshine82: in other news the w800 looks pretty cool
[12:54] <lingoist> nickrud: ok, thanks a lot!
[12:54] <cafuego> remote: it leads to broken hardware and lost data.
[12:55] <remote> I will keep that in mind
[12:55] <remote> will dma stay activated on my machine?
[12:55] <remote> for the cdrom drive
[12:55] <tarheelcoxn> remote: until you reboot
[12:55] <remote> bummer....
[12:55] <ds-one> Could someone help me properly configure ALSA for Debian?
[12:55] <cafuego> remote: if will if you set up /etc/defaults/hdparm correctly.
[12:55] <tarheelcoxn> !tell remote about dma
[12:56] <cafuego> remote: using the KEEP flag will even force DMA on when there are errors and the drive would normally flip to PIO. That would be a bad thing.
[12:56] <remote> tarheelconxn, you're my hero
[12:56] <jvgn> wenas
[12:56] <sunshine82> daskreech that no good to me i need to figure out how to transfer my music onto it i got two files on the phone dont knwo how they sa
[12:56] <jvgn> alguien puede ayudaerme
[12:56] <jvgn> kernel panic
[12:56] <cafuego> !es
[12:56] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:56] <jvgn> I/O read memoru
[12:56] <sunshine82> daskreech but i need to tranfe rthe rest
[12:57] <tarheelcoxn> remote: don't thank me. I'm just a lowly (friendly) user
[12:57] <tarheelcoxn> :)
[12:57] <Siph0n> how do i list hidden folders?
[12:57] <cafuego> Siph0n: ls -a
[12:57] <sunshine82> does anyone have a w800 phone
[12:57] <ds-one> Again...can someone help me properly configure ALSA for Debian?
[12:57] <cafuego> sunshine82: Do those run Ubuntu?
[12:57] <ds-one> I know this is Ubuntu, but someone told me to come here for support...
[12:58] <cafuego> Someone was wrong then.
[12:58] <Siph0n> k thanx :)
[12:58] <tarheelcoxn> remote: see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/processes/governance
[12:58] <tarheelcoxn> remote: then you'll know who to send fanmail to
[12:58] <tarheelcoxn> :P
[12:58] <sunshine82> cafuego it must work i got two file tranfer onto the phonre
[12:58] <cafuego> sunshine82: #ubuntu-offtopic you can chat about ti all you like
[12:59] <ds-one> So I can't help on configuring ALSA on this channel?
[12:59] <dreadnought> ok im ready to try dion the java thing again what have you got to help me today
[12:59] <cafuego> !java
[12:59] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:00] <DaSkreech> !javadebs
[01:00] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/
[01:00] <dreadnought> that doesnt work
[01:00] <Janbanan> Is there ever going to be better ATI drivers?
[01:00] <Seveas> dooglus, I alread updated :)
[01:00] <DaSkreech> !ATI
[01:00] <ubotu> I guess ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[01:00] <cafuego> dreadnought: Give it a pay rise or try again with sueful debug info.
[01:00] <nickrud> lingoist, read this bug, and tell me if it's you're problem :) http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15031
[01:00] <Seveas> Janbanan, a few days ago ati released pretty decent drivers
[01:00] <dreadnought> anyone got another link other than the wiki
[01:00] <ds-one> So I can't help on configuring ALSA on this channel?
[01:00] <lingoist> nickrud: ok, thx...give me a minute
[01:01] <kcskyl> I was wondering how I should deal with this problem?  My computer has consistently been crashing everytime I run OpenOffice Impress...
[01:01] <nickrud> *your   *blush*
[01:01] <cafuego> dreadnought: Telling us WHy or HOW it's not working as advertised would be helpful.
[01:01] <kcskyl> Thanks in advance!
[01:01] <Janbanan> How do i download the new drivers?
[01:01] <dreadnought> cafuego: iu dunno it just doesnt work maybe im doin sonmethin wrong...
[01:02] <cafuego> dreadnought: Well, nobody is going to be able to help you with that kind of info
[01:02] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: your computer completely locks up with you start Impress? give us a bit more detail
[01:02] <ds-one> I can't help on configuring ALSA on this channel?
[01:02] <dreadnought> okok then walk me through the wiki so i dont so it wrong again
[01:02] <kcskyl> my friend is offering to install XP for me if problem persists, but I like ubuntu way to much to give up this easily...please help me find a solution to this problem
[01:02] <lingoist> nickrud: this happened to me so i added it to blacklist: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15031#c1
[01:03] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: what locks up? just Impress or the whole user interface?
[01:03] <cafuego> dreadnought: Go to http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/ ; download the jre deb for your cpu type. Install it.
[01:03] <dreadnought> cafuego: i have hoary
[01:03] <lingoist> nickrud: will this be the solution: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15031#c5
[01:04] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: have you tried starting Impress from the command line?
[01:04] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn, sometimes it freezes when I start the program, other times when I run a slide show of my presentations.  My computer locks up so that I can't even control my mouse...and often, I see a streak of lines across the screen
[01:04] <Hans> cafuego: I get this error while downloading: You don't have permission to access //pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb on this server.
[01:04] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn, thanks for being willing to help!
[01:05] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: np
[01:05] <pupil> Is there a deb for j2re for mozilla ?
[01:05] <coax> does enyone know enything about costumizing the gnome menus?? i can't go to "applications:///" in nautalius
[01:05] <pupil> tarheelcoxn, Is there a deb for j2re for mozilla ?
[01:05] <paxmaster> when i do this  mt rewind -f /dev/st0
[01:05] <Hans> pupil, yes, that should be that one
[01:05] <pupil> Hans,  what one?
[01:05] <paxmaster>  it give error mt: /dev/st0: No such device or address
[01:05] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn, I haven't tried using the command line to start, but I feel that it might be something else because often it starts to run fine
[01:05] <Hans> pupil: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb
[01:06] <lingoist> nickrud: still here?
[01:06] <paxmaster> crw-rw----  1 root tape 9, 0 2005-11-16 16:26 /dev/st0
[01:06] <dreadnought> cafuego: u got a link for hoary?
[01:06] <quakehawg> can someone please tell me the correct entry to add the marillat repository to sources.list?
[01:06] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: the point of starting it from there is to see the verbose output of the errors that Impress might be spitting out
[01:06] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn, oh, i see
[01:06] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn, I'll try that right now
[01:06] <cafuego> dreadnought: Wait for seveas to fix the url, I'm pretty sure sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb would run fine on Hoary too.
[01:07] <coax> and is there any way of costumizing the menus in text mode?
[01:07] <dreadnought> cafuego: how logn will that take
[01:07] <jvgn> kernel panic - not syncing: I/O read memory image
[01:07] <cafuego> dreadnought: Depends. if he's gone to bed (he lives in Europe) it might be an hour or 8.
[01:07] <pupil> Hans, that link does not work
[01:07] <Inchabod> Where do I put downloaded themes from art.gnome.org if I want to use them on gnome?
[01:08] <Hans> pupil, I know, [01:06:41]  (cafuego): dreadnought: Wait for seveas to fix the url
[01:08] <Hans> :)
[01:08] <dreadnought> cafuego: jeez everyone who has ubuntu seems to live in europe
[01:08] <Delobox> Inchabod, i just use the art manager
[01:08] <bur[n] er> Inchabod: open the "themes" and drag'n'drop
[01:08] <Delobox> Inchabod, it lets you install directly
[01:08] <cafuego> dreadnought: Don't worry, I don't.
[01:08] <quakehawg> dreadought,not everyone
[01:08] <nickrud> lingoist, I'm reading through, it's interesting :0
[01:08] <choctawdave> quakehawg go to this web site. http://www.ubuntux.org/forum/18
[01:08] <remote> thanks channel
[01:08] <natalie> hey everyone!
[01:08] <natalie> I'm baaaaaaaaack
[01:08] <quakehawg> natalie lives in tulsa
[01:08] <remote> I (heart) Ubuntu
[01:08] <natalie> yes  do lol
[01:08] <quakehawg> choctawdave, thank you, hites
[01:08] <pupil> are there any other links for that deb
[01:09] <remote> btw, freenx is the stuff!!!
[01:09] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: you might want to try logging into IRC with a console client
[01:09] <natalie> quakehawg, are you stalking me?
[01:09] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: so that if Xorg crashes, you can keep talking to us
[01:09] <quakehawg> natalie:  not tonight, i have a headache
[01:09] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn, can you tell me how I can do that?
[01:09] <natalie> LOL
[01:09] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn, oh okay
[01:09] <dreadnought> cafuego: ur link says forbidden
[01:09] <sunshine82> anyone who has a w800 could u please join ubuntu-offtopic and help me please.....
[01:09] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: CTRL+ALT+F1 will take you to a login that's outside Xorg
[01:09] <natalie> ummm i asked last night abd im back lmao, i still cant get my wireless card to work :((
[01:10] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: ALT+F7 will bring you back to Xorg
[01:10] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn, also, can you tell me what the command is to run impress from terminal?  i thought it was just "impress" but i was wrong...
[01:10] <lingoist> nickrud: thanks a lot - I am sure thats the problem
[01:10] <nickrud> lingoist, you are basically out of luck.
[01:10] <nickrud> lingoist, is this a desktop?
[01:10] <Inchabod> bur
[01:10] <lingoist> nickrud: so no sound for me?
[01:10] <Inchabod> oops
[01:10] <Janbanan> I wan't to install the latest fglrx-drivers. When i installed the ones I'm using now I followed the How-to. And since I'm an x64 user I downgraded a file called libdri.a. If I install the new ones do I have to restore the original libdri.a?
[01:10] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: you'll also want to install a console client like irssi
[01:10] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: I think it's ooimpress
[01:10] <lingoist> nickrud: no, laptop alsa a6va
[01:10] <Inchabod> bur[n] er, It says invalid format.
[01:10] <quakehawg> actually, my mother's family is from OK, and I noticed a couple OKs in your signon thingie
[01:10] <sunshine82> cafuego there hardly anyone in ubuntu-off-topic and i am on ubuntu and i do need to know
[01:11] <kcskyl> thanks tarheelcoxn!
[01:11] <natalie> quakehawg, hehe stalker
[01:11] <nickrud> lingoist, no sound, unless you want to try that stuff.
[01:11] <cafuego> sunshine82: Use google then. This is an Ubuntu support channel, not a forum for you to dump all off-topic questions about misc proprietary unrelated hardware.
[01:11] <lingoist> nickrud: better than switching to windows, innit ;)
[01:11] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn: hm..ooimpress isn't working...
[01:12] <nickrud> lingoist, you can always get a pcmcia sound card (heh)
[01:12] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: just a sec
[01:12] <Taa5i> Is there a way to apt-get install a package to a specified directory [eg chroot]  ?
[01:12] <nickrud> lingoist, it any work with linux, I'm not sure
[01:12] <natalie> I've tried everything on wiki and im still having no luck...
[01:12] <lingoist> nickrud: is that the annoying system speaker?
[01:12] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn:  okay
[01:13] <nickrud> lingoist, no, it plugs into the slot in your computer, it's a sound card you can plug speakers into. I've seen them, they're expensive, and that's about all I really know.
[01:13] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: try ooimpress2
[01:13] <lingoist> nickrud: ok, i see...hm, not an option...I rather try the stuff in this thread
[01:13] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn, aweseom
[01:14] <StDellis> how do I kill a program again?
[01:14] <nickrud> lingoist, have fun then. Pay attention to the stuff written by Chen.
[01:14] <lingoist> nickrud: thanks a lot for pointing me!
[01:14] <nickrud> lingoist, np
[01:15] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: like I said, you may want to try to get logged in and talking to us from a console IRC client before you try to re-create the crash
[01:15] <httpdss> StDellis: with the kill command ..
[01:15] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn, i'm trying to find a command to run IRC from client...do you know by any chance?
[01:15] <tafsen> is there a place where I can get the best source list for ubuntu?
[01:15] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn: sorry to be such a pain
[01:15] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: no worries...
[01:15] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: I may have to answer the phone at some point, though
[01:16] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn: oh okay
[01:16] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: don't panic if I take awhile to respond
[01:16] <bimberi> ubotu tell tafsen about sources
[01:16] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn: he he.  I won't
[01:16] <ubuntu> I'm having problems with GRUB, can someone help me?
[01:16] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: use synaptic to install irssi
[01:16] <Siph0n> ubotu tell Siph0n about sources
[01:17] <Hans> tafsen: maybe you like mine? http://www.hansheino.nl/sources.list
[01:17] <StDellis> httpdss I tried kill xmms
[01:17] <sunshine82> cafuego i just came back to say sorry im just so used to comin hear to get help dealin with ubuntu i though... well it doesnt matter now sorrry///
[01:18] <httpdss> StDellis: killall xmms .... (try sudo killall xmms, if that doesnt work)
[01:18] <natalie> whoa people jetted
[01:18] <QuestionZ> Can someone help me with GRUB?
[01:19] <httpdss> QuestionZ: ask your question and someone will help
[01:19] <httpdss> or not
[01:19] <bimberi> looks like all the talk of kill-ing has affected freenode :P
[01:19] <httpdss> HAHAH
[01:20] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: let me know if you have trouble installing irssi or getting up and running with it
[01:20] <dreadnought> whats with all the peopla gettin on all of the sudden
[01:20] <QuestionZ> Can someone please help me with GRUB?
[01:20] <remote> later channel
[01:20] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn: i have it installed, but when i tried running it in console, i have no idea what the commands are...
[01:20] <dockane> hi all ... i would like to convert images from shell with a small for-loop but the mass of the filenames consist of one or more whitespaces. how do i get the convert job done ?
[01:20] <httpdss> QuestionZ: ask your question and someone will help
[01:20] <bimberi> dreadnought: a netsplit - when a couple of freenode servers lose comms
[01:21] <Epix> anyone heard of overkill? are there any other cosole multiplayer games?
[01:21] <kent> QuestionZ, dont ask to ask,  just ask the queation!
[01:21] <vegos> im having wireless troubles, any help???
[01:21] <Epix> vegos: specifics help
[01:21] <gleesond> firefox won't let me install new themes. I try to download them from the firefox page and opens the theme menue but dosen't download it. can any one help?
[01:22] <QuestionZ> I have Windows XP installed on my computer, and I wanted Ubuntu as well. So naturally, I opted to install GRUB after installing Ubuntu, but when I restart my computer, I get a GRUB Error 21. Can somsone tell me what is going on?
[01:22] <ubuntu> Wow 591 members - nice!
[01:22] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn: i'm sorry for doing this to you after you already started helping me with my problem, but i have a biochemistry exam for tomorrow that i should start studying for - -;
[01:22] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: no worries
[01:22] <AMDXP> anyone running vmware ?
[01:23] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: in irssi: /help <command>
[01:23] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: just look in /var/log if you have another crash
[01:23] <vegos> i have a broadcom card and have used ndiswrapper to wrap the windows driver, but after i enter the wireless settings via gui, i cant access the net
[01:23] <gleesond> firefox won't let me install new themes. I try to download them from the firefox page and opens the theme menue but dosen't download it. can any one help?
[01:23] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: post the appropriate log somewhere and then come back here and ask somebody for help
[01:23] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn: do you mean in terminal?
[01:23] <ubuntu> Question:  I want to use gparted to repartition my windows HD -- I think Ubunto puts the HD in read only mode preventing the operation -- Is that so and if so How do you put the HD in RW mode?
[01:24] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: in a terminal, type "irssi" to start irssi... then type "/help"
[01:24] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn: where can I see /var/log?
[01:24] <gleesond> I even tried reinstalling from the repositories
[01:24] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: open a terminal and "cd /var/log"
[01:25] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: there will be logs for lots of things
[01:25] <natalie> I'm not loved :(
[01:25] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: the Xorg and OpenOffice (if it exists) logs are the pertinent ones
[01:25] <kcskyl> i see a log called "Xorg.0.log.old"...do you think this might have the log for my previous error?
[01:25] <QuestionZ> I have Windows XP installed on my computer, and I wanted Ubuntu as well. So naturally, I opted to install GRUB after installing Ubuntu, but when I restart my computer, I get a GRUB Error 21. Can somsone tell me what is going on?
[01:25] <Epix> noone knows of a console based multiplayer game?
[01:25] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn, my most "recent" error, i meant
[01:26] <perre_> hi everybody
[01:26] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: likely, yes
[01:26] <tarheelcoxn> Epix: IRC
[01:26] <Epix> tarheelcoxn: hah.
[01:27] <Epix> tarheelcoxn: is this when we play pong?
[01:27] <tarheelcoxn> Epix: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:27] <perre_> how can i format a usb device
[01:27] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn:  would you take a look at this for me if i put it in the pastebin?
[01:27] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: sure thing
[01:28] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn: awesome...the question is then...how do i use vim to copy the entire thing?
[01:28] <dts> how do i add an initial user for postgres
[01:29] <drew_> anyone here experienced with a problem involving the system HANGING on login?
[01:29] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: don't. instead: cat /var/log/Xorg.foo.bar > ~/xorg_log
[01:29] <vegos> please repeat
[01:29] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: instead of foo.bar use the actual filename, obviously
[01:30] <bimberi> dts: "sudo su - postgres", then use the command (which i've forgotten :P )
[01:30] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn: oh okay
[01:30] <QuestionZ> I have Windows XP installed on my computer, and I wanted Ubuntu as well. So naturally, I opted to install GRUB after installing Ubuntu, but when I restart my computer, I get a GRUB Error 21. Can somsone tell me what is going on?
[01:30] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn: okay, did that
[01:30] <Fred_Flintstone> heya
[01:31] <Fred_Flintstone> anybody an expert on midi?
[01:31] <Fred_Flintstone> c'mon somebody must know something about midi
[01:31] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn, what does that command do?
[01:31] <pupil> If I have an .rpm.bin file how do I convert it with alien?
[01:32] <Fred_Flintstone> does anyone know if you have to manually load a sf2 file each time you reboot?
[01:32] <Siph0n> how can i list the filesystem, so it shows all the mounted partitions or whatever, and how much space i have left and total? :)
[01:32] <Fred_Flintstone> seems like i do
[01:32] <pupil> If I have an .rpm.bin file how do I convert it with alien?
[01:32] <Fred_Flintstone> unless i'm missing something
[01:32] <weijie90> hi
[01:32] <bimberi> Siph0n: df -h
[01:32] <pupil> If I have an .rpm.bin file how do I convert it with alien?
[01:32] <Siph0n> sweet :)
[01:32] <jorge_> alien -d file_to_convert.rpm
[01:32] <weijie90> ubuntu was okay at first, but its really slow, especially at loading programs
[01:32] <cafuego> pupil: Is that the java download?
[01:32] <pupil> thanks
[01:33] <DaSkreech> !ww2d
[01:33] <ubotu> DaSkreech: Are you on ritalin?
[01:33] <pupil> cafuego, from sun yes
[01:33] <QuestionZ> I have Windows XP installed on my computer, and I wanted Ubuntu as well. So naturally, I opted to install GRUB after installing Ubuntu, but when I restart my computer, I get a GRUB Error 21. Can somsone tell me what is going on?
[01:33] <DaSkreech> !WorldWind
[01:33] <ubotu> DaSkreech: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:33] <cafuego> pupil: Ok, trash it. get the other one, the .bin without rpm.
[01:33] <weijie90> fcan anyone help?
[01:33] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: you should have a file in your home directory now named xorg_log
[01:33] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: it's a copy of what was in /var/log
[01:33] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn, oh...
[01:33] <pupil> cafuego, I don't see it
[01:34] <Delobox> QuestionZ, you could manually install grub, but i'd just go ahead and install ubuntu again and this time choose to install grub while installing ubuntu
[01:34] <coax> is there really noone who knows anything about the menus in gnome?
[01:34] <Delobox> QuestionZ, it respects your windows XP installation ust fine
[01:34] <Delobox> coax, you want to know how to edit the menus?
[01:34] <Agiofws> ImportError: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory  < iget this error while i'm trying to install an instant manager on ubuntu what should i install ?
[01:34] <cafuego> pupil: it's on the sun download page. Either right above or right below the .rpm.bin
[01:34] <pupil> http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp
[01:34] <pupil> cafuego, http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp
[01:34] <Agiofws> ?
[01:34] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn: hmm...don't see it...
[01:34] <Epix> so, nobody knows of any console games that are way cool?
[01:35] <cafuego> Linux (self-extracting file)
[01:35] <coax> Delobox, yep... preferble in a terminal... i need to do it on about 60 boxes...
[01:35] <Delobox> coax, you need to install the same application shortcut on 80 boxes you mean
[01:35] <QuestionZ> Delobox: I reinstalled Ubuntu 3 times, and from what I saw, it did install GRUB while it installed Ubuntu. And what do you mean that it respects my WinXP installation? Because I already had WinXP before I tried installing Ubuntu
[01:35] <Delobox> coax, is this launcher pointed to an NFS mounted share
[01:35] <cafuego> pupil: When that downloads, make sure you jave the 'java-package' package installed.
[01:35] <Delobox> QuestionZ, i had windows xp on my system and the grub install during ubuntu install didnt give me any problems
[01:35] <pupil> cafuego, what do you mean jave ?
[01:35] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn: i copied everything onto the pastebin under "kcskyl"
[01:36] <Delobox> coax, what kind of application shortcut are you trying to create in your menu
[01:36] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn: thanks again
[01:36] <pupil> cafuego, its still a .bin file
[01:36] <cafuego> pupil: 'have'
[01:36] <cafuego> pupil: Yes. But not an .rpm.bin
[01:36] <coax> Delobox, nope... i'm setting up some workstations on my workplace...
[01:36] <QuestionZ> Delobox: Well, I wish it didn't give me any problems, but it is, it's "Error 21" and I have tried everything I can to fix it on my own.
[01:36] <pupil> cafuego, so what do I do with it?
[01:37] <Delobox> QuestionZ, did you google error 21?
[01:37] <natalie> does anyone have a broadcom bc4306 wireless lan card?
[01:37] <nickrud> QuestionZ, searching for that on the web gave me http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-grub/2003-02/msg00078.html ; does that help you?
[01:37] <cafuego> pupil: When java-package is installed, run 'sudo make-jpkg jre....bin'
[01:37] <cafuego> natalie: Yes
[01:37] <Delobox> QuestionZ, this guy mentions it might have something to do with bios settings for hard drive autodetection http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-grub/2003-02/msg00082.html
[01:37] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn: would've never thought to do this on my own :)
[01:37] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: :)
[01:38] <ubuntu> Where do I get info on getting root access?
[01:38] <pupil> cafuego, I mean,. how what do I do with the jave.bin file ?
[01:38] <cafuego> natalie: That CAN work with ndiswrapper if you have an i386 compatible machine. Otherwise, give up.
[01:38] <pupil> cafuego,  i don't know how to install it
[01:38] <Delobox> QuestionZ, although that post implys it being a grub config issue, not neccessarily an ubuntu issue
[01:38] <cafuego> !root
[01:38] <ubotu> it has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:38] <QuestionZ> Deobox: I'm checking it out right now
[01:38] <cafuego> pupil: sudo apt-get install java-package
[01:38] <pupil> cafuego, I'll read the insturctiong
[01:38] <coax> Delobox, i need to add som programs thats run with wine, and them som url's for som NFS shares...
[01:38] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: I am what I am because of who we all are
[01:38] <QuestionZ> Delobox: Well, I'll try anything at this point :P
[01:38] <ubuntu> ubotu - thx
[01:38] <ubotu> ubuntu: I haven't a clue
[01:38] <Agiofws> ImportError: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory  < iget this error while i'm trying to install an instant manager on ubuntu what should i install ?
[01:38] <pupil> cafuego,  ohh
[01:39] <nickrud> Agiofws, search for that file on packages.ubuntu.com, on the second form
[01:39] <natalie> cafuego, its an HP pavilion ze4900
[01:39] <nickrud> Agiofws, it will tell you the package it's in
[01:40] <Siph0n> im still having issues playing my mp3s :( whats the easiest way to get mp3s to work and which player do most use?
[01:40] <cafuego> natalie: Then you can probably make it work using ndiswrapper and the correct Windows driver files.
[01:40] <Delobox> coax, some interesting infohttp://www.gnome.org/start/2.0/menuediting.htmlrmation here
[01:40] <QuestionZ> Delobox: Wait, so I have to configure my BIOS for GRUB? I'm not completely understanding this.
[01:40] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: Impress is the only thing that crashes?
[01:40] <Delobox> QuestionZ, has grub ever worked on this machine before?
[01:40] <natalie> cafuego, I've tried every file i can find :((
[01:40] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: that log looks fine
[01:40] <nickrud> Siph0n, installing beep-media-player is the quickest solution, I use rhythmbox
[01:40] <Delobox> QuestionZ, grub is a very low level program, your bios settings could be giving it problems
[01:41] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: unless you're having trouble with your touchpad
[01:41] <QuestionZ> Delobox: No
[01:41] <coax> Delobox, thanks...
[01:41] <Agiofws> how do you search for a package with aptget ?
[01:41] <QuestionZ> Delobox: No, as in it has never been run on this machine before
[01:41] <Delobox> QuestionZ, then i'd suggest at least checking how your hard drives are detected.  Also, are these just plain IDE drives?
[01:41] <Delobox> coax, good luck
[01:41] <QuestionZ> Delobox: Yes, plain IDE
[01:41] <Delobox> QuestionZ, also, are you using a basic hard drive controller, not anything exotic like a Promise raid controller or anything like that
[01:41] <bimberi> Agiofws: apt-cache search whatever
[01:41] <nickrud> QuestionZ, the linux kernel can look at drives directly, bypassing the bios; grub uses the bios, so if the bios doesn't see the drive, neither can grub
[01:41] <Delobox> QuestionZ, cool, then just check to make sure your drives are set to autodetect in your bios "Standard Setup" section
[01:42] <Delobox> at least that's what this post suggests
[01:42] <pegasus> i have a machine ehre apache refuses to be killed with kill -9 pid#  what shoudl i try next???
[01:42] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn: it's crashed once before, but i've been using impress alot recently and it's been crashing often...almost everytime...my touchpad seems to work okay, though
[01:42] <Delobox> QuestionZ, grub uses some autodetection code to find drives when it starts, certian bios configs may interfere with that
[01:42] <bimberi> pegasus: sudo invoke-rc.d apache stop
[01:42] <QuestionZ> Delobox: Alright, I'm going to try that right now, if it doesn't work, I'll be back. Thanks for helping me thus far :)
[01:43] <ompaul> pegasus, well I would try /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[01:43] <pegasus> bimberi Starting httpd2 (prefork) (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[01:43] <pegasus> i alredy trited /etc/rc.d/apache2 start a long time ago
[01:44] <bimberi> pegasus: ewww, no wonder you're using kill then :|
[01:44] <ompaul> Siph0n, what were you trying to play them with?
[01:44] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: the quick fix would be to downgrade from OpenOffice2
[01:44] <pegasus> bimberi so you undertand the problem
[01:44] <Siph0n> ? mp3s
[01:44] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: but you'll lose functionality
[01:44] <Siph0n> i just did what nickrud said to do, and it worked :)
[01:44] <DaSkreech> Siph0n: tried Pente?
[01:44] <ompaul> pegasus, well I would try /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[01:45] <bimberi> pegasus: does sudo netstat -plunt show another process running on Port 80?
[01:45] <Siph0n> nope DaSkreech
[01:45] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: you may want to (a) ask in here again when somebody else may know what you've got going on...
[01:45] <DaSkreech> :-(
[01:45] <ompaul> DaSkreech, all yours Im hitting the scratcher
[01:45] <Siph0n> DaSkreech: still a little fuzzy what it is :)
[01:45] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: or (b) ask in another channel
[01:45] <DaSkreech> Siph0n: You know connect 4?
[01:45] <pegasus> bimberi yaha ther are apache process already there
[01:45] <pegasus> let   me do a paste bin
[01:46] <Siph0n> yea
[01:46] <DaSkreech> Siph0n: Imagine a much larger connect 4 board but you can steal your opponents pieces
[01:46] <tarheelcoxn> kcskyl: without a log or some verbose output from ooimpress2, I don't think I can help you beyond what I've already shown you
[01:46] <pegasus> check it ou http://pastebin.com/432551  hat is the problem
[01:47] <pegasus> i need to kill the processes so that I can restart the server
[01:47] <Siph0n> DaSkreech: awesome! :) yea, ill have to make a note to get it... no time to play now tho :( too much crazy work to do
[01:47] <DaSkreech> Siph0n: as long as you can remember the name :)
[01:47] <Siph0n> lol, i get to learn Ubuntu for my class :) yea i gonna write it down
[01:48] <pegasus> any idea on why i cant kill it
[01:48] <Ace> my ubuntu crapped out on me :(
[01:48] <meheren> can someone plz tell me how to make it 1 click only
[01:48] <kcskyl> tarheelcoxn: thanks for you help!
[01:49] <meheren> like can someone tell me how to make it o that when i scroll over something it highlights and when i click it activates
[01:49] <meheren> instead of this double click thing
[01:49] <meheren> (im used to mac)
[01:49] <navarone> meheren > go to system/filemanagement and the behavior tab
[01:49] <bimberi> pegasus: probably a parent is respawning
[01:49] <bimberi> pegasus: sudo pkill httpd2
[01:49] <meheren> ?
[01:49] <Stricklin> Any medical people in this channel? Doctor? Nurse? Paramedic?
[01:49] <meheren> in breezy?
[01:49] <cafuego> meheren: Yes
[01:49] <Ace> will windows corrupt a ubuntu install?
[01:50] <cafuego> Stricklin: Yes
[01:50] <Stricklin> cafuego, you?
[01:50] <cafuego> Stricklin: My diagnosis rate via text-only is 100%.
[01:50] <meheren> oh i c it thx!
[01:50] <navarone> bimberi> the thougth of my parents respawning makes me queasy...<s>
[01:50] <meheren> ace: not an iso
[01:50] <bimberi> navarone: lol
[01:50] <Epix> any good doom ports for ubuntu that have online play? I WISH skulltag would be released on linux...
[01:51] <meheren> ace: but u have ot use a certen thing that will burn iso's windwos burner won't do it
[01:51] <meheren> ace: and be ready to use about 15 cds
[01:51] <Rubin> why cant i rename printers in the printers dialog
[01:51] <meheren> ace:1 more thing get the network install not the cd install
[01:51] <gustavor> for weeks i'm having problems when trying to run "apt-get update"... I always get errors like "Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)"... I guess that something is corrupted in my computer what could it be?
[01:51] <navarone> Stricklin> I'm no doctor but I can play on in chat...what's the nature of the emergency?
[01:51] <Stricklin> cafuego, congested lungs, heaving couch, body aches, minor headache, sinus drainage, runny nose, no fever. Cold? or Flu?
[01:52] <Ace> meheren i already had ubuntu installed and i think windows killed the drive
[01:52] <cafuego> Stricklin: Have you had sex with any pigeons recently?
[01:52] <meheren> ace: sounds like windows...
[01:52] <nickrud> Rubin, a pet peeve of mine :)  you can use the web interface to name printers if you do sudo adduser cupsys shadow , then sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart
[01:52] <Stricklin> Sex? No.
[01:52] <pigeonflight> cafuego: Eek!
[01:52] <cafuego> Cold then
[01:52] <navarone> cafuego> could eb avain flu...<s>
[01:52] <Ace> meheren yep
[01:52] <pigeonflight> !java
[01:52] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:52] <pigeonflight> !javadebs
[01:52] <ubotu> I guess javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/
[01:53] <Stricklin> Just the normal necking
[01:53] <Rubin> nickrud: the web interface?
[01:53] <cafuego> What with it probably being autumn and all where you are
[01:53] <pegasus> bimberi that is not helping
[01:53] <bimberi> pegasus: hm
[01:53] <meheren> ace uy should live like me in a world of no walls after all who need windows or gates?
[01:53] <meheren> *you
[01:53] <nickrud> Rubin, http://localhost:631 ; then use the username and password of your initial account to access it
[01:53] <Rubin> oh
[01:53] <cafuego> Ace: Did you reinstall windows after you installed Ubuntu?
[01:54] <Rubin> nick_: is there a vi way to rename it?
[01:54] <Ace> meheren i think i am just going to use vmware... i was not going to use windows... but my ndiswrappers was crapping on me so i had to boot into it
[01:54] <nickrud> Rubin, the web interface is disabled unless you do those two steps I mentioned above
[01:54] <Stricklin> cafuego, thanks
[01:54] <meheren> ah
[01:54] <nick_> what Rubin ?
[01:54] <Ace> cafeuego: i had windows on another drive already installed
[01:54] <Rubin> er nickrud not nick_
[01:54] <cafuego> Stricklin: Disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated with any medical professionals.
[01:54] <nickrud> Rubin, probably, but I like the web interface for a few other reasons, so enabled it immediately.
[01:55] <meheren> ace: if u reinstalled windows u reformatted the drive killing everything on it
[01:55] <cafuego> Stricklin: But it sounds like a cold. And even if it were the flu, there's nothing to do except stay in bed for a day or so.
[01:55] <bimberi> pegasus: sudo pkill -9 -u wwwrun    ?
[01:55] <maddash> how do I join other channels?
[01:55] <nickrud> Rubin, it's probably printers.conf, and change the Info line
[01:56] <khermans> pegasus, ??
[01:56] <benoy> Hi, does anyone know why my vlc player doesn't play wmv files?
[01:56] <bimberi> maddash: /join #channel
[01:56] <Ace> benoy, you need to install the codecs
[01:56] <nickrud> Rubin, my bad, I think that's wrong info
[01:56] <navarone> maddash> go to menu and click windows/channel listing and when it loads click refresh to get list
[01:56] <misfit_toy> !tell benoy about w32codecs
[01:56] <Rubin> nickrud: i'll poke around
[01:57] <pigeonflight> Has anyone tried the debs from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//?
[01:57] <misfit_toy> pigeonflight, all of them, they taste great
[01:57] <nickrud> Rubin, I think it's the text following <Default Printer, and <Printer, in that file
[01:57] <pigeonflight> misfit_toy: I get a 403 everytime man
[01:58] <Epix> whats a good video card for running ubuntu, and cheap!
[01:58] <bur[n] er> anyone know if there are any vino alternatives for gnome that are faster??
[01:58] <bur[n] er> preferrably using 'tight' encoding?
[01:58] <pigeonflight> misfit_toy: When was this taste tes?
[01:58] <Epix> is nvidia good?
[01:58] <misfit_toy> pigeonflight, I just pulled it up, looks live to me, tastes great, less filling.
[01:59] <pigeonflight> misfit_toy: Do you get a // on the links to the debs?
[01:59] <benoy> I am new to ubuntu, can you tell me how I would install the codecs
[01:59] <pigeonflight> Seveas: Would you happen to be awake?
[02:00] <misfit_toy> pigeonflight, what do you get with this? http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//dists/breezy-seveas/all/
[02:00] <cafuego> Epix: Best of a bad bunch
[02:00] <Epix> and, whats better?
[02:00] <khermans> pegasus is my homeboy -- caller ID spoofin' bad boy ... using ubuntu
[02:00] <Epix> Asus? Ati?
[02:00] <pigeonflight> misfit_toy: A page
[02:00] <cafuego> better for what?
[02:00] <Epix> cafuego: gaming, and running in general
[02:00] <cafuego> Epix: Those are mutually exclusive.
[02:01] <cafuego> Epix: better for gaming m,eans closed drivers, good running in general means open drivers.
[02:01] <Epix> heh
[02:02] <pigeonflight> misfit_toy: Clicking on a java deb gives me a 403 though
[02:02] <bimberi> benoy: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:02] <Siph0n> lol that web page gets lots of action
[02:02] <misfit_toy> pigeonflight, sure enough:
[02:02] <misfit_toy> You don't have permission to access //pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb on this server.
[02:02] <dreadnought> ok ive got the java thing done on the wiki and it still doesnt work what now
[02:03] <pigeonflight> misfit_toy: maybe more Ketchup?
[02:03] <cafuego> Yes, the 403 is a permission issue, trying it from a million hundred different IPs is nopt going to make one iota of difference.
[02:03] <cafuego> Justw ait for seveas to fix it.
[02:03] <misfit_toy> pigeonflight, bbq sauce!
[02:03] <mtupper> i am about to do a new install of ubuntu and have been told by two people two things, one said just install ubuntu, the other kubuntu with KDE instead of GNOME.  Can anyone make a recommendation? Is one easier/better?  Whats the difference?
[02:03] <misfit_toy> bbl
[02:03] <cafuego> mtupper: Try both, pick one.
[02:03] <pigeonflight> cafuego: So it is temporary and non unique then?
[02:03] <Janbanan> I have f**ed up my graphic drivers
[02:04] <cafuego> pigeonflight: Yes. Seveas needs to run 'chmod' on his filesystem.
[02:04] <mtupper> cool, so there isnt much dif i guess...
[02:04] <cafuego> mtupper: It's pure personal preference.
[02:04] <pigeonflight> cafuego: Cool :-)
[02:04] <daaku> i'm using ssh portforwarding for something, and i need it to be active all the time (most of the time anyways).. whats the 'right' way to do this? (without needing to have a term open)
[02:04] <pigeonflight> mtupper: You can convert one to the other in any case
[02:04] <insomnia_> Delobox: Hey! It works now! Thanks!
[02:05] <pigeonflight> In a totally unrelated topic has anyone tried WW2D on Ubuntu?
[02:05] <cafuego> daaku: a vpn/tunnel
[02:05] <dreadnought> it still doesnt work and i applied it to mozilla i dont get it
[02:05] <ilba7r> does ubuntu back up the original MBR
[02:05] <m0biu5> Is there any way to get OO.org 2 in hoary?
[02:06] <cafuego> ilba7r: No.
[02:06] <ilba7r> dam
[02:06] <ilba7r> thanx
[02:06] <mtupper> huh, ok, thanks guys.  last thing...  is it better to install straight ubuntu and add the KDE-desktop meta-package  OR  just install kubuntu (will that include GNOME?)  ??
[02:06] <cafuego> ilba7r: What was in it? Just the windows one?
[02:06] <dreadnought> uh hello
[02:06] <ilba7r> i have thinkpad t42
[02:06] <tafsen> How do I list up the progress that are running?
[02:06] <pigeonflight> mtupper: Kubuntu will not include Gnome Ubuntu will not include KDE
[02:06] <ilba7r> it had a rescue partition that do not work anymore
[02:07] <cafuego> ilba7r: You can add that partiton into the grub menu
[02:07] <pigeonflight> mtupper: After they are installed you can mix and match as you please
[02:07] <benoy> when I typed apt-get update && apt-get install w32codecs I get a permission denied message
[02:07] <cafuego> ilba7r: Check the grub examples, then add an entry for that aprtition (it's DOS or FreeDOS)
[02:07] <ilba7r> it is there but does not work it is a bug and i founded in the testing hardware logs
[02:07] <mtupper> haha, simple enough...  thanks dudes, later, I got a long night i am sure.
[02:07] <pigeonflight> mtupper: Start from the one you feel more comfortable with and go from there
[02:07] <benoy> anyone know what this is about?
[02:07] <tafsen> How do I list up the progress that are running?
[02:07] <cafuego> Hmm.
[02:08] <ilba7r> unfourtanetly too late for grub should have been installed on / not MBR
[02:08] <pigeonflight> tafsen: Why?
[02:08] <cafuego> hmmm
[02:08] <navarone> tafsen> you can view processes by using application/system tools/system monitor...hope that helps
[02:09] <dreadnought> red hat is free right?
[02:09] <nrunge> I am having problems installing Nvidia's packaged driver. I beleive it is because the kernel was compiled with a different version compiler than is currently installed. How do I change that setting?
[02:09] <pigeonflight> dreadnought: No
[02:09] <cafuego> nrunge: 'sudo apt-get install linuxrestricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx'
[02:09] <cafuego> nrunge: No need for compiling.
[02:09] <nrunge> ty
[02:09] <carrot> i thought you could still download redhat for free?
[02:09] <cafuego> sorry, linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[02:10] <pigeonflight> I think thats Fedoa
[02:10] <carrot> dreadnought: there's always fedora, the open branch of redhat.
[02:10] <dreadnought> aww what kind of linux is that
[02:10] <pigeonflight> I think thats Fedora
[02:10] <dreadnought> i want to try a live disc of redhat is there one?
[02:10] <nrunge> cafuego: The reason that I am installing nvidia's drivers in the first place is that I can't get the packaged ubuntu drivers to work.
[02:10] <nrunge> cafuego: I just updated from 5.04 to 5.10 and have been at this for the past few hours
[02:10] <Ophiocus> dreadnought, kinda the wrong place to ask for that?
[02:10] <carrot> dreadnought: no. there is one based on fedora, but i have conveniently forgotten the name.
[02:10] <cafuego> nrunge: Did you enable them? 'sudo nvidia-glx config enable'
[02:11] <Ophiocus> and dont call it red hat its suse now
[02:11] <moonlite_> im thinking of switching from gentoo which i've come to dislike to ubuntu. I just browsed the availible packages and i'm farly impressed by the huge amount of packages availible. Anyway, i have a few worries. First of all, how hard is it to upgrade between different ubuntu-releases?
[02:11] <cafuego> nrunge: They run just dandy here. Oh, what card do you have?
[02:11] <nrunge> cafuego: I followed the wiki to the t
[02:11] <carrot> wtf? suse? rh != suse.
[02:11] <nrunge> cafuego: 6600
[02:11] <cafuego> nrunge: Are you on the 2.6.12 kernel?
[02:11] <nrunge> cafuego: yes
[02:11] <dreadnought> hehe yeah i want to have some options but i still like ubuntu the best! =-)
[02:11] <nickrud> moonlite_, extremely, it's change a bit of text in one file, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:11] <cafuego> What error is X giving you?
[02:12] <ryanpg> hi all, is there a way I can check/track xorg 7 RCx in dapper? (besides coming in here and being annoying) :P
[02:12] <pigeonflight> Off to try this evil Java thing
[02:12] <nrunge> cafuego: one sec
[02:12] <tafsen> How do I kill program using the term? A program has crashed...
[02:12] <moonlite_> nickrud: that didn't sound very hard :)
[02:12] <Sedge> can anyone recommend a burning application that can do cd as well as dvd?
[02:12] <pigeonflight> tafsen: Is it a gui progam?
[02:12] <nickrud> moonlite_, it leverages debian's work pretty well
[02:12] <moonlite_> is this true for upgrading from for example breezy to dapper later?
[02:12] <pigeonflight> tafsen: try xkill :-)
[02:12] <nickrud> moonlite_, yes
[02:12] <dreadnought> ok so whats wrong with this i did the wiki page and IT STILL DOESN'T WORK!!!
[02:12] <moonlite_> neat
[02:13] <Sedge> can anyone recommend a burning application that can do cd and dvd?
[02:13] <Sedge> for ubuntu
[02:13] <Thunderguy> hmm, while we are on that, what hotkeys in gnome do xkill? I always thought it was ctrl-alt-backspace am I mistaken?
[02:13] <nickrud> Sedge, I hear that k3b is pretty good at that
[02:13] <Siph0n> yea think so thunderguy
[02:13] <benoy> hi, I just installed w32codecs but i still have the problem with vlc not playing wmv files.  It plays the audio but not the videon
[02:13] <nrunge> cafuego: no errors, It seems to load all of the modules fine. But at the very end it just stops at loading the GLX module
[02:13] <pigeonflight> Thunderguy: Thats to restart X I think it should be Alt+ctrl+Esc
[02:13] <Sedge> nickrud, thanks, i'll give that a try
[02:13] <Thunderguy> yeah, escape I meant.
[02:13] <benoy> anyone know how to fix this?
[02:13] <pegasus> khermans i know you dont i
[02:14] <dreadnought> i mean the restricted format wiki for java
[02:14] <nrunge> cafuego: but no specific error messages
[02:14] <cafuego> nrunge: Hmmm. The kernel module is loaded OK?
[02:14] <nrunge> cafuego: I can load the nvidia module with 'modprobe' while using the nv module
[02:14] <navarone> nrunge> you said you followed wiki page instructions...did it include editting xorg.cong file?
[02:14] <dreadnought> me?
[02:15] <moonlite_> in gentoo i have the ability to trigger small scripts after my network goes online and before it goes down. I also get access to my ESSID for my wlan-card and use this to mount nfs automatically when at home and authing me to the schools wlan when at school etc. Are there anything similar in ubuntu?
[02:15] <nrunge> cafuego: of course. commenting out DRI, making sure GLX is being loaded and chaning "nv" to "nvidia"
[02:15] <nickrud> dreadnought, did you do sudo update-alternatives --config java ?
[02:15] <cafuego> nrunge: *nod*
[02:15] <linux_dude> hi all
[02:15] <nrunge> cafuego: Like I said I have been at this for hours
[02:15] <navarone> nrunge...did you restart x server afterwards?
[02:15] <linux_dude> i have upgraded to the new ubuntu 5.10
[02:16] <nrunge> cafuego: restarted x. even re-ran the dpkg configuration for xserver-corg
[02:16] <dreadnought> nickrud: taken ive never heard of it i take it as a no
[02:16] <nrunge> cafuego: restarted x. even re-ran the dpkg configuration for xserver-xorg
[02:16] <cafuego> nrunge: In that case, mebbe trying the nvidia oens would work. You need the gcc-3.4 compiler to be installed and make SURE it's used for driver compilation.
[02:16] <linux_dude> but i have a dupicate entry in grub.How to remove it?
[02:16] <nrunge> cafuego: Yes, my initial question. How do I make sure it is used for compilation?
[02:16] <nickrud> dreadnought, if you've dpkg -i 'd the java deb, do the update-alternatives and pick sun
[02:16] <cafuego> nrunge: export CC=gcc-3.4 (provided their Makefile honours $CC)
[02:17] <nrunge> cafuego: it does
[02:17] <Orandic> does anyone know a program that can lock all users out of ubuntu for x amount of time, even if they restart the computer?  i think it would be great for students.
[02:17] <cafuego> cool, then yeah, export...
[02:17] <Thunderguy> Hey how do I set a timeout in gnome for alsa, I'm having a problem with components that wish to take the audio device, but alsa doesn't let it go, is there a way instead of shutting down alsa before running the program, to have alsa run only when required?
[02:17] <nickrud> dreadnought, it's on that page, just not obvious, I guess
[02:17] <dreadnought> nickrud: im a linux dumbass wanna walk me through it right this timee?
[02:17] <pegasus> khermans   fucking ubuntu keeps uninstalling my kiax!!!!
[02:17] <nickrud> dreadnought, you can pm me if you like
[02:17] <cafuego> pegasus: Mind your language, please.
[02:18] <pegasus> cafuego i am angry
[02:18] <dreadnought> nickrud: u should go to ur channel
[02:18] <jeanluc> MIT 100 dollar lap top coming out soon! I hope to get on on ebay and install ubuntu on it
[02:18] <nickrud> dreadnought, it's a thought ;)
[02:18] <cafuego> pegasus: Go outside, kick a wall, come back.
[02:18] <pegasus> i just got to rate chicks no how ugly they where
[02:18] <pegasus> i am angry that my kiax keeps gettign installed by ubuntu
[02:18] <linux_dude> Hi ..Some one plz help me removing the duplicate entry in grub
[02:19] <foxiness> i have laptop toshiba and i think maybe its not support acpi "the battery icon and acpi on command not response" the model no is "satellite L10",and i want it to support the acpi "battery hibernate suspand",thank you .
[02:19] <Orandic> it will just be a simple timer program
[02:19] <Thunderguy> linux_dude: /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[02:19] <pegasus> linux_dude   vi /boot/grub/grub.conf
[02:19] <pigeonflight> Orandic: Change the password :-)
[02:19] <navarone> foxiness> just a thought but you may have to update bios
[02:20] <tafsen> when you press ctrl+alt+backspace , you kill x11? How do I open the graphic envirement igjen?
[02:20] <SteveMyers> su and then you rpassword then startx tafsen
[02:20] <foxiness> navarone, is this easy to get the bois "update"?
[02:21] <Orandic> jeanluc: imagine winding up to linux
[02:21] <Orandic> great thanks!
[02:23] <navarone> foxiness...you would need to know the present bios version and then get update...if available...from the manufacturers website...but like I said...it may not be the bios
[02:23] <foxiness> navarone, is there other sol ?
[02:23] <yikes> ati tv wonder ve anyone?
[02:23] <yikes> i want to know if i need to install drivers for it
[02:24] <jino> how to remove duplicate entries in grub?
[02:25] <_senectus_> does anyone know how to transparently link /var/www/index.html over to /var/www/wp/index.php
[02:25] <derrickw> does anybody know of any good sites that host free linux 3d games? like, i love planet penguin racer, but a more advanced version would be awesome
[02:25] <jino> can any one help me to remove duplicate entries in grub
[02:27] <BluesRocker> write sdl in google
[02:27] <Siph0n> jino:  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:27] <Siph0n> lol someone just asked that, only reason i knew :)
[02:28] <misfit_toy> derrickw, here's a good list: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153&highlight=worlds+warcraft
[02:28] <_senectus_> does anyone know how to transparently link /var/www/index.html over to /var/www/wp/index.php
[02:28] <derrickw> misfit_toy - thanks
[02:29] <Ophiocus> _senectus_, use header its a redirect function you want
[02:29] <misfit_toy> np
[02:29] <vtv_punisher> this the help channel ?
[02:29] <wx9j> errors in my config file have left me at the command prompt, can anyone tell me the syntax for the command to reconfigure the X windows
[02:29] <khermans> pegasus, yes you do
[02:29] <misfit_toy> vtv_punisher, and also the psychic channel
[02:30] <jino__> Siph0n , i upgraded to new ubuntu..but two entries appear in grub..so wat shall i do
[02:30] <vtv_punisher> thanks. the problem i have is applications not setting up icons in progame menu
[02:30] <vtv_punisher> the apps installed and the menu editor shows them but they do not show up
[02:31] <wx9j> anyone know the command from the prompt for reconfigure of the video
[02:31] <_senectus_> Ophiocus, header.. is that something in the apache.conf ?
[02:31] <Siph0n> jino__: sorry, im really new myself.... im guessing delete one tho? :)
[02:32] <khermans> who needs help?
[02:32] <khermans> wanna call me on skype?
[02:32] <Ophiocus> _senectus_, not its html , look it up you ll find plenty of ways to use it, include redirect in your search
[02:32] <vtv_punisher> here. about applicatons not listing in the menu
[02:32] <stfn> wx9j, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:33] <khermans> vtv_punisher, if it is in the menu editior, but not showing, do killall gnome-panel
[02:33] <pr0tocol> hey what's going on people
[02:33] <wx9j> thank you stfn, I have swiss cheese for memory
[02:33] <pr0tocol> I'm having a little problem if someone can help... here it goes
[02:34] <stfn> wx9j, me too but it was in my bash history :-/
[02:34] <pr0tocol> I recently, like an idiot, installed KDE.  With it, I installed the QT/GTK engine that applised KDE fonts and themes onto Gnome.
[02:34] <pigeonflight> wx9j: Try Edam More solid smells better and it's stretchy :-)
[02:34] <pr0tocol> Now, when I uninstalled KDE, Gnome GTK font's not only looks horrible, but I cannot change them either
[02:34] <pr0tocol> can someone help please
[02:35] <wx9j> haha I will forget by the time I get to the store.
[02:35] <varsendagger> what's so cool aobut midnight commander?
[02:35] <pr0tocol> anyone?
[02:35] <Siph0n> has neone here set up an Unreal Tournament server in Ubuntu? or know of a web page i can go to find out how?
[02:35] <StDellis> how do I kill xmms
[02:36] <pr0tocol> StDellis, kill xmms
[02:36] <khermans> StDellis, killall xmms
[02:36] <pr0tocol> there you go
[02:36] <pigeonflight> Siph0n: Any Random UT Linux how to will suffice
[02:36] <pr0tocol> can someone help me with my problem
[02:36] <Siph0n> pigeonflight: k thanx
[02:36] <wx9j> varsendagger, MC makes viewing contents of all files easy
[02:37] <ccc_> can i set alt-tab to work for all workspaces instead of just the current workspace?
[02:37] <vtv_punisher> kermans that didnt work
[02:38] <khermans> StDellis, failing that, kill -9 `ps -e | grep -i xmms | cut -f1 -d " "`
[02:38] <Kenny> > I've got a problem getting the install CD to boot on my new HP ZV6000 notebook.  i know others have it working on this system without this problem.  I posted this on the forum, but have had no luck there.  I'll post a link to the forum thread to explain my problem in detail
[02:39] <Kenny> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89212
[02:39] <vtv_punisher> khermans the killall command did now work
[02:40] <khermans> vtv_punisher, well tyr kill -9
[02:40] <vtv_punisher> k
[02:40] <khermans> vtv_punisher, kill -9 <process id>
[02:41] <vtv_punisher> what do i need to kill with it. ?
[02:42] <omnid> Hello all.
[02:43] <Kenny> is anyone here any good at troubleshooting problems booting the install cd?
[02:43] <willtux> hi
[02:43] <omnid> We're playing Guitar Hero here.
[02:44] <vtv_punisher> khermans does restarting do anything for the app menu groups. ?
[02:44] <willtux> I have problems with copy my install_flash_player to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[02:44] <willtux> anybody can help me
[02:44] <pr0tocol> willtux, what's the proble you're having?
[02:44] <vtv_punisher> because its still not working . programs added are the virus program and cpu monitor packages
[02:44] <devint> how do i get gnome.h?
[02:44] <devint> what package do i install?
[02:45] <willtux> please a I need install flash plugin
[02:45] <Kenny> i wonder if we are having a problem here because there are more people asking that people who can answer :D  Oh well, I'll try back later
[02:45] <SavvyPlayer> some newer dvdrw's require dma
[02:45] <pr0tocol> willtux, hold on
[02:45] <willtux> ?
[02:45] <khermans> vtv_punisher, killall gnome-panel
[02:46] <khermans> will restart the app menu
[02:46] <SavvyPlayer> is it possible to configure the ubuntu installer to use dma?
[02:46] <pr0tocol> willtux, www.ubuntuguide.com/#security
[02:46] <vtv_punisher> did that will do it again
[02:46] <khermans> dma?
[02:46] <tavathlon> anyone here having problems with ShipIt?
[02:46] <dreadnought> ubotu tell me about java
[02:46] <khermans> tavathlon, they encourage donations -- put you toward top of wqueue
[02:46] <dreadnought> some one tell ubot to tell me about java
[02:47] <willtux> nothing pr0tocol
[02:47] <vtv_punisher> khermans did it again there still not showing up
[02:47] <Kenny> what is ubot?
[02:47] <tavathlon> But when I log into Shipit, it say's that my discs where sent amonth ago,but they haven't arrived...  =/
[02:47] <pr0tocol> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#security  <--- willtux read thar
[02:47] <dooglus> devint: libgnome-dev has /usr/include/gnome-1.0/gnome.h and libgnomeui-dev has /usr/include/libgnomeui-2.0/gnome.h.  Which do you need?
[02:48] <khermans> SavvyPlayer, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA?highlight=%28dma%29
[02:48] <khermans> vtv_punisher, it is possible that it your app doesnt install itself into the app menu
[02:48] <willtux> but anybody can help me but in spanish
[02:48] <dooglus> !es
[02:48] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:48] <vtv_punisher> shows up i nthe menu editor .
[02:49] <willtux> thanks
[02:49] <vtv_punisher> when i uncheck them and then check them no change
[02:49] <khermans> vtv_punisher, you could try rebooting, but i dont see how that is different from restart gnome-panel
[02:49] <khermans> vtv_punisher, try CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to kill x
[02:49] <vtv_punisher> yeah didnt think it would matter
[02:49] <khermans> that will drop your current session
[02:50] <dooglus> heh
[02:50] <khermans> oops, maybe he didnt understand
[02:50] <dooglus> khermans: press alt-f4 to get ops.  (etc)
[02:50] <khermans> doodz, l33t h4ck?!?!
[02:50] <SavvyPlayer> thanks khermans, but I still needed to boot off an older drive
[02:50] <dooglus> khermans: sssh.  not many people knows it
[02:51] <SavvyPlayer> hdparm is not available during the install routine
[02:51] <Sarvell> how do i get the make command to work to build kernel modules?
[02:51] <khermans> SavvyPlayer, use DMA on the drive you want
[02:51] <khermans> SavvyPlayer, there is a comman line during the install
[02:51] <khermans> try cltr-alt-f3
[02:51] <Ophiocus> Sarvell, if you are in ubuntu you have to install make from the repositories
[02:52] <khermans> and then enable dma with hdparm as stated on that wiki
[02:52] <Sarvell> thank you
[02:52] <dooglus> khermans: wow!  that got me a root prompt!
[02:52] <khermans> Sarvell, aptitude install build-essential
[02:52] <jasonjdp> Ophiocus, can you go a bit more indepth on that info to Sarvell? im new to linux and have related questions
[02:52] <SavvyPlayer> ok, will definitely try next time, thanks! Last time, I tried echo use_dma=1 > /proc/...
[02:53] <willtux> pr0tocol are you stay here?
[02:53] <khermans> dooglus, during the install one of the ctrl-alt-XX will also give you a root prompt -- to enable DMA during the install
[02:53] <willtux> I use edubuntu 5.10
[02:53] <pr0tocol> willtux, yup
[02:53] <willtux> and I cannot install falsh plugin
[02:53] <pr0tocol> just add those ubuntu repos
[02:53] <willtux> in this page is about ubuntu 5.04
[02:54] <khermans> willtux, did you try aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree ?
[02:54] <SavvyPlayer> flash does not work under 64 bit
[02:54] <DaSkreech> Hooray! My new theme song! http://www.googleityoumoron.com/
[02:54] <willtux> yes,
[02:54] <SavvyPlayer> flash does not work under 64 linux or 64 bit windows
[02:54] <Ophiocus> actually khermans answer give a more complete result, but in general ubuntu does not have "dev" packages installed by default, you have to go get them, check out the fact on how to use sinaptic and allow use of universe and multiverse, then look up "make"
[02:54] <willtux> I use i386
[02:54] <khermans> willtux, sudo sed -i 's/main restricted/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:54] <nickrud> DaSkreech, not fair, I got counted :)
[02:55] <avetenebrae> hi all
[02:55] <Ophiocus> where fact should read like faq :P
[02:55] <willtux> ok,
[02:55] <omnid> oh no
[02:55] <omnid> I still can't get sound to work
[02:56] <mipe> Good night.
[02:56] <mipe> Please.Can somebody help me.
[02:56] <khermans> omnid, did it work on the LiveCD ?
[02:56] <Sarvell> thanks guys
[02:56] <navarone> anyone know if the soulseek servers used by nicotine are down permanently?
[02:56] <khermans> if not, yer probably gonna have to manuall set it up
[02:56] <avetenebrae> mipe ?
[02:56] <willtux> passsword?
[02:56] <SavvyPlayer> khermans, i've been here for 5 minutes, and watching you, you are just amazing :)
[02:56] <mipe> I need password for root.
[02:57] <mipe> I install ubuntu now
[02:57] <sajd> anyone seem this message when running emacs-snapshot-gtk Undefined color: "#000000 " ?
[02:57] <omnid> khermans: I don't know
[02:57] <omnid> khermans: I never loaded it via a live CD
[02:57] <khermans> mipe, you can root the box without the password
[02:57] <nickrud> !tell mipe about rootsudo
[02:57] <willtux> nothing man
[02:57] <mipe> avetenebrae:Sorry for my mistake in english.
[02:58] <khermans> mipe, in ubuut there is no root user
[02:58] <khermans> mipe, type sudo -s
[02:58] <khermans> and use your user password
[02:58] <mipe> khermans:So What Shall I do when I want run apt-get update?
[02:58] <khermans> ?
[02:58] <foxiness> is the ubuntu come with mono by default ?
[02:59] <khermans> foxiness, no just install it
[02:59] <Kyral> no
[02:59] <nickrud> mipe, it would be sudo apt-get update , and use your user password
[02:59] <SavvyPlayer> ubuntu does not install mono by default
[02:59] <avetenebrae> mipe : synaptic ?
[02:59] <mipe> avetenebrae:No, I install in terminal.
[02:59] <SavvyPlayer> mono is available via synaptic
[02:59] <devint> dooglus: i need glade/glade.h and gnome.h
[02:59] <devint>  :- /
[02:59] <theine> Does anybody know what's the difference between "mount -t proc proc /var/chroot/proc" and "mount -t proc proc-chroot /var/chroot/proc"?
[03:00] <nickrud> mipe, if you really want to access the root account, sudo passwd root
[03:00] <khermans> devint, libglade
[03:00] <avetenebrae> who use fluxbox here ?
[03:00] <varsendagger> i do
[03:00] <mipe> Thank you very much. I am happy.
[03:00] <khermans> mipe, sudo -s is better than sudo passwd root
[03:00] <varsendagger> avetenebrae, i do
[03:00] <nickrud> old schoolers ;)
[03:00] <avetenebrae> 0.9.14 ?
[03:00] <vtv_punisher> khermans back. only one of the apps started, others not there still placed a split and apps above it split is there apps not
[03:01] <foxiness> my friend ask me if he can have package "from repos" on cd or dvd ?
[03:01] <avetenebrae> on the fluxbox site
[03:01] <theine> mipe, or sudo su -
[03:01] <avetenebrae> they show the way tabs can be vertical on the window side
[03:01] <willtux> =(
[03:01] <khermans> vtv_punisher, dunno
[03:01] <mipe> Thank everybody :-)
[03:01] <jasongrieves> is there a way to capture the X screen 0.0 onto the VFB say on :1.0 ?
[03:01] <avetenebrae> but in 0.9.14 i cannot do that
[03:02] <vtv_punisher> itis a bug ... from the add apps
[03:02] <theine> middle click paste doesn't really work as expected under xchat, does it?
[03:02] <iceman2k> anyone know anything about the Ability to detect Wireless ISP intercept ?
[03:02] <vtv_punisher> ?
[03:02] <mipe> Some sources for packages?
[03:02] <HrdwrBoB> iceman2k: ...
[03:02] <khermans> iceman2k, huh?
[03:02] <avetenebrae> vars : can you do like http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/images/shots/fluxbox/gimplord.jpg with your fluxbox version ?
[03:03] <iceman2k> Got the Feeling my Wireless ISP is being Intercepted ... there a way to check
[03:03] <foxiness> is the dvd on ubuntu "download" come with more package then on cd ?
[03:03] <Ophiocus> r0x0r l33t hac|<3r wants to sniff packages
[03:03] <vtv_punisher> you have a router iceman
[03:03] <vtv_punisher> go into is and turn log, on
[03:04] <nickrud> mipe, go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic, you can build a nice sources.list with that
[03:04] <kbrooks> a
[03:04] <vtv_punisher> if there is more then  the list you have of ips someone is stilling from you
[03:04] <mipe> nickrud:Thank you:-)
[03:05] <nickrud> mipe, np, welcome to ubuntu
[03:05] <khermans> just use your router to filter by MAC address and do not allow DHCP
[03:05] <chromakode> hey- I don't know if I'm crazy, but what's going on with the ubuntu servers? I'm getting bad key warnings all in the sudden.
[03:05] <Tavathlon> I try again, with a better question =)   Anyone know why cd's supposedly sent to shipping company a month ago haven't arrived yet?
[03:05] <khermans> that''s keep most people off yer net even without WEP
[03:05] <vtv_punisher> khermans there is the best way
[03:05] <vtv_punisher> er that
[03:06] <vtv_punisher> sorry moved my keybourd
[03:06] <vtv_punisher> well im going to uninstall these apps and try reinstalling them
[03:06] <dooglus> there's no way to tell if your packets are being read though, right?
[03:06] <kbrooks> *poke* poke
[03:06] <khermans> dooglus, there may be ways
[03:07] <vtv_punisher> khermans thanks for the help ....
[03:07] <dooglus> khermans: it's possibly to sniff the packets without alerting them
[03:07] <omnid> So what steps should I take towards my audio problem
[03:07] <khermans> dooglus, but if you use encrypted protocols you should be fine right?
[03:07] <khermans> hehe
[03:07] <faol> hey!
[03:07] <mipe> nickrud:Excuseme. What Shall I write in sourcelist: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic?
[03:08] <dooglus> khermans: if there was a good encryption protocol for wireless internet, yes.
[03:08] <khermans> dooglus, yes but not easy to sniff emotely!
[03:08] <dooglus> khermans: using smileys, you mean?
[03:08] <khermans> dooglus, no -- just use encrypted upper-layer protocoals like ssh
[03:09] <khermans> tunnel all your important stuff over SSH with pre-placed keys
[03:09] <dooglus> khermans: I don't think ssh has emoticons.  it's not as advanced as a lot of newer protocols like MSN and AIM
[03:09] <khermans> lol
[03:09] <cafuego> dooglus: Anything wrong with IPSec?
[03:09] <khermans> dooglus, with Gaim-encryption you should be pretty good
[03:09] <chromakode> is anybody else getting BADSIG warnings on apt-get update for http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy?
[03:09] <nickrud> mipe, no, you go there and create a list: then place the generated file in /etc/apt/sources.list.
[03:09] <cafuego> !gpgerr
[03:09] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[03:10] <chromakode> :/
[03:10] <cafuego> Alternatively, use a different mirror.
[03:10] <chromakode> would that happen all in the sudden? and archive.ubuntu.com?
[03:10] <cafuego> chromakode: the US mirror is broken, bad, retarded, bushed...
[03:10] <choudesh> Hello all.
[03:11] <dooglus> chromakode: it's ok for me.
[03:11] <chromakode> dooglus, odd. and you're using http://archive.ubuntu.com?
[03:11] <chromakode> hmm.
[03:11] <choudesh> I have a mass storage usb harddrive. I grep'd dmesg for it and it is loaded under scsi0 but all I see is the device tables.
[03:11] <dooglus> choudesh: although a few weeks ago I had the problem you're seeing.  you archive.u.c
[03:11] <dooglus> s/you/yes/
[03:12] <choudesh> dooglus, no regexpr. :-(
[03:12] <pegasus> so does anyone what to enlighten me on to why umbutu insits on uninstalling kiax every time i try to upgrade
[03:12] <chromakode> cafuego, I'm wary to simply delete my gpg keys because they suddenly invalidate.
[03:12] <dooglus> chromakode: "you" is the regexp
[03:12] <robotgeek> cafuego: ffox plugin works fine?
[03:12] <cafuego> chromakode: Deleting the lists is not the same as deleting gpg keys.
[03:12] <cafuego> robotgeek: Well, -ish.
[03:12] <chromakode> cafuego, are there not .gpg files stored there?
[03:13] <choudesh> What is the first device USB mass storage uses?
[03:13] <cafuego> robotgeek: It works with the test applet; not quite so well with what I would actually need it for (tax office online submission portal)
[03:13] <dooglus> chromakode: they are, but they're not the keys, they're the signatures
[03:13] <nickrud> chromakode, the keys are in /etc/apt
[03:13] <cafuego> choudesh: /dev/sda, provided you have no other scsi, sata or firewire devices plugged in.
[03:13] <chromakode> okay. my bad.
[03:13] <robotgeek> cafuego: how abt in konq?
[03:13] <_crimson> hello     http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/432641 someone could help?
[03:13] <chromakode> will do :)
[03:13] <cafuego> robotgeek: It starts with 'K' and is thus banned.
[03:13] <choudesh> cafuego, still gives me the device table.
[03:14] <dooglus> chromakode: when I had the problem a while ago, it was caused by a file on the archive.ubuntu.com mirror having been updated, but the timestamp was older than the previous version, so apt-get didn't think it had changed and didn't download it.  removing *Release* from /var/lib/apt/lists/ fixed it
[03:14] <emes> i
[03:14] <robotgeek> cafuego: rename to gonqueror :)
[03:15] <cafuego> robotgeek: I'm not trolling, just setting forth company policy.
[03:15] <choudesh> when I try to mount a USB HD, I get the device table...001  002  003  004  devices
[03:15] <cafuego> Admittedly *I* set that policy beciase *I* *HATE* kde ;-)
[03:15] <emes> er, i'm installing ubuntu x86 in qemu (on my powerbook) to run a linux binary program, how big should I make the disk image?
[03:15] <chromakode> dooglus, aha. that would make sense. Thanks for letting me know - I will try removing that file.
[03:15] <dooglus> chromakode: it's a few files.
[03:15] <robotgeek> cafuego: hmm, :)
[03:15] <cafuego> emes: FoX and assorted stuff, about 2GB
[03:16] <cafuego> emes: Sorry, for X and a desktop env, 2GB
[03:16] <cafuego> emes: (minimum)
[03:16] <emes> cafuego: thx
[03:16] <chromakode> dooglus, valuable files they are ;)
[03:16] <Tavathlon> no one knowing anything about ShipIt?
[03:17] <chromakode> dooglus, removing Release worked. Thanks! :)
[03:17] <khermans> Tavathlon, i got my discs from shipit about two weeks ago
[03:18] <Tavathlon> khermans, how long time was it since you ordered?
[03:18] <khermans> Tavathlon, a month
[03:18] <khermans> Tavathlon, i made a donation though
[03:18] <trat02community_> some GUI way to configure 2 monitors?
[03:18] <chromakode> cafuego, thank you too :)
[03:18] <khermans> Tavathlon, it costs Ubuntu about $1 per disc with packaging and shipping
[03:19] <Tavathlon> khermans, oki...  hm...but what I find to be strange is that they where sent to shipping comany amonth ago...  =/
[03:19] <khermans> Ubuntu is getting big on campus at the University of Massachusetts Amherst, even encroaching on the non-technical people
[03:19] <kronicdreamer> how long till you recieve your ubuntu cd after ordering?
[03:19] <blanky> what do I need to download to be able to watch wmv, I already have totem
[03:19] <khermans> http://www.UmassLug.org
[03:19] <khermans> kronicdreamer, about three weeks
[03:19] <khermans> blanky, use vlc
[03:19] <kronicdreamer> ok thats the 3rd different answer i have got
[03:20] <khermans> blanky, or try installing w32codecs and us totem
[03:20] <nickrud> kronicdreamer, my hoary ones took 3 months ;)
[03:20] <dooglus> chromakode: glad to hear it.
[03:20] <dooglus> !gpgerr
[03:20] <ubotu> methinks gpgerr is If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*
[03:20] <kronicdreamer> i am getin breezy
[03:20] <nickrud> blanky, if you get w32codecs, you'll need totem-xine
[03:20] <khermans> kronicdreamer, they place you in the queue base don your donations
[03:20] <khermans> kronicdreamer, did you make a donation?
[03:20] <kronicdreamer> i cant
[03:20] <kronicdreamer> i dont have a credit card
[03:21] <khermans> kronicdreamer, then you are probably at the end of the queue
[03:21] <kelbizzle_> hey anyone know where the system sounds are?
[03:21] <blanky> nickrud: totem-xine? all I need is that right?
[03:21] <kelbizzle_> like all the alerts and suff
[03:21] <nickrud> blanky, and the w32codecs , or , try vlc
[03:21] <blanky> vlc?
[03:21] <blanky> okay
[03:21] <sfsdfsdf> can someone help me with ubuntu
[03:21] <blanky> so just vlc by itself
[03:21] <nickrud> yes
[03:21] <sfsdfsdf> what is the default command to envoke sshd
[03:21] <trat02community_> blanky- works great for me
[03:21] <blanky> what does, vlc?
[03:22] <trat02community_> totem-xine
[03:22] <khermans> blanky, it is a really good video player
[03:22] <sfsdfsdf> anyone help me?
[03:22] <khermans> blanky, it only uses free codecs
[03:22] <nickrud> totem-xine works well, it's what I use. vlc is too darn ugly
[03:22] <trat02community_> :)
[03:22] <omnid> Seems when I try to use apt-get to install a .deb file it can't "find" it although I point directly to it
[03:23] <blanky> totem-xine? so I just get totem-xine in synaptic, that's all i need
[03:23] <robotgeek>  nickrud, you can use the backported fresh version for beatifulness
[03:23] <chromakode> omnid, dpkg -i is for local files :)
[03:23] <khermans> nickrud, recent vlc package is ugly
[03:23] <trat02community_> w32codecs
[03:23] <nickrud> robotgeek, it's in backports as we speak?
[03:23] <omnid> Thanks chroma! that helps a lot.
[03:23] <blanky> it says gstreamer will be removed
[03:23] <robotgeek> nickrud: that's what the forums say, x86 i guess
[03:23] <blanky> trat02community_, I get w32codecs from synaptix?
[03:23] <deedea> hy
[03:23] <cory> i have the strangest problem: i cannot connect to 127.0.0.1
[03:23] <nickrud> blanky, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats says exactly what you need for totem-xine & w32codecs
[03:23] <trat02community_> no
[03:23] <deedea> i have a question
[03:24] <mipe> What sources I have to add to I had packages like for debian. Example: I need install mc,sim,atd.. ?
[03:24] <deedea> can we compile a eggdrop on ubuntu
[03:24] <chromakode> omnid, sure :)
[03:25] <cafuego> !info eggdrop
[03:25] <ubotu> eggdrop: (Advanced IRC Robot), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 1.6.17-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 459 kB, Installed size: 1144 kB
[03:25] <Knowerrors> Anyone here try using either Symphony OS desktop, or SimpleKDE with Ubuntu?
[03:25] <cafuego> deedea: It's precompiled. Enable 'universe'.
[03:25] <deedea> cafuego, what is the command
[03:25] <robotgeek> cafuego: i am heading over to the ibm site to find out if they have a newer version of the java
[03:25] <cafuego> !repos
[03:25] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[03:25] <cafuego> robotgeek: Let me know...
[03:25] <khermans> !easysource
[03:25] <ubotu> I heard easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:25] <cafuego> robotgeek: i only got this one last week, though.
[03:26] <deedea> bash: enable: universe: not a shell builtin
[03:26] <sfsdfsdf> does anyone know how to envoke the sshd in ubuntu
[03:26] <sfsdfsdf> does anyone know how to envoke the sshd in ubuntu
[03:26] <nickrud> mipe, http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4653 is usable
[03:26] <robotgeek> cafuego: hmm, i have been using this for over 2 weeks. also updated the wiki article while i was at it
[03:26] <nickrud> mipe, it will give you everything ubuntu's taken from debian
[03:27] <NoUse> sfsdfsdf no need to repeat
[03:27] <StDellis> Is there anyway to make my computer a wireless access point so me and some guys can play risk2. We are at university residence so we cant play through the network they have set up here?
[03:27] <NoUse> sfsdfsdf sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start
[03:27] <khermans> easier source -- sudo sed -i 's/main restricted/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:27] <robotgeek> cafuego: neither did i, was going thru the forums and found i cud do that
[03:27] <mipe> nickrud:Great.It is exactly what I need :-)
[03:27] <cafuego> StDellis: if you flip the cards into ad-hoc mode you should be fine.
[03:27] <nickrud> mipe, change the us to a local repository
[03:27] <StDellis> cafuego how would I do that
[03:27] <nickrud> khermans, you should teach ubotu that :)
[03:27] <cafuego> StDellis: via 'iwconfig'.
[03:27] <dooglus> is breezy-backports empty on purpose?
[03:28] <cafuego> dooglus: yes
[03:28] <cafuego> dooglus: Ie: nobody ahs backported anything yet
[03:28] <blanky> first I install totem-xine then w32codecs
[03:28] <deedea> one question
[03:28] <deedea> what's the command for make
[03:28] <kelbizzle_> hey cab someone answer a questions for me?
[03:28] <varsendagger> hey i just imported a .csv into thunderbird, how do i remove it?
[03:29] <varsendagger> ---forget aobut it
[03:29] <StDellis> cafuego ok how would I do that under windows for the other guys though
[03:29] <dooglus> cafuego: it would be good to get firefox backported.  1.50 is much faster than 1.07 or whatever is in breezy
[03:29] <dooglus> sfsdfsdf: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[03:30] <blanky> do install w32codecs before totem-xine
[03:30] <khermans> nickrud, how do i "teach" ubotu?
[03:30] <cribeiro> hi folks
[03:30] <coz> Hello all
[03:30] <cafuego> dooglus: I'm sure someone will at some stage. They curently have betetr things to do, what with dappers kernel being broken.
[03:30] <NoUse> !tell khermans about ubotu
[03:30] <cribeiro> first time here but long time irc & ubuntuneer :-)
[03:30] <dooglus> cafuego: it is?  I didn't notice
[03:30] <coz> would someone mind telling me hoe to install a .deb package, I am really thick about these things
[03:30] <NoUse> !deb
[03:30] <ubotu> deb is probably To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:30] <cafuego> dooglus: 2.6.15 completely crashes on my box
[03:31] <cribeiro> coz: dpkg
[03:31] <coz> thanks
[03:31] <kelbizzle_> where the nice system sounds
[03:31] <kelbizzle_> like all the alerst and stuff
[03:31] <puff> hm, my USB drive isn't showing up in /media.
[03:31] <thor797> hello all
[03:31] <cribeiro> coz: if you have a dpkg file... just type dpkg --install <your deb file>
[03:32] <StDellis> cafuego if I turn it into ad-hoc mode do I hhave to turn it back to normal to be able to get on the internet?
[03:32] <mipe> nickrud:Great :-)
[03:32] <cribeiro> coz: of course, using "sudo" is generally the right thing to do :-)
[03:32] <cafuego> StDellis: yep
[03:32] <StDellis> cafuego wuts the command to turn it back
[03:32] <dooglus> cafuego: do I have to do anything special to get the kernel updated?  or is it just another package as far as apt-get is concerned?
[03:32] <maddash> anyone here have a CPU cooled by water?
[03:32] <cafuego> StDellis: ifdown ethX; ifup ethX
[03:32] <deedea> ok
[03:32] <cribeiro> dooglus: as far as I know... the kernel is just another package.
[03:32] <dooglus> maddash: I tried that, but after the sparks died down, nothing was working any more
[03:32] <cafuego> maddash: On the old Mac Plus yes, it didn't survive the flooding.
[03:32] <mipe> nickrud:I installed sim and mc too without problems.
[03:33] <StDellis> cafuego ok well is there anyway I can have my laptop as a wireless access point kinda?
[03:33] <_crimson> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/432641
[03:33] <varsendagger> maddash, i have a oxy-nit and it runs great
[03:33] <deedea> how can i compile under ubuntu damne it
[03:33] <cribeiro> dooglus: you may be interested in fiddling with the grub config file (I think its at /etc/grub/menu.lst but I may be wrong)
[03:33] <cafuego> StDellis: yes, like I said, if you run in ad-hoc mode you can all connect to eachother.
[03:33] <jasoninPhoenix> I just got Ubuntu in the mail
[03:33] <StDellis> cafuego ohh so only I have to be in that mode? not everyone else?
[03:33] <cafuego> StDellis: There is another way, with special drivers (which may not work depending on what hardware you have) which is far more convoluted.
[03:33] <dooglus> cribeiro: I don't use grub.
[03:33] <cafuego> StDellis: No, everyone does.
[03:33] <blanky> how do I start totem-xine
[03:33] <omnid> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[03:33] <jasoninPhoenix> Loaded it and it ran without a problem
[03:34] <maddash> varsendagger: cool - is it noiseless?
[03:34] <jasoninPhoenix> Using it right now
[03:34] <StDellis> cafuego ok well is there a way to do this under windows?
[03:34] <blanky> to start totem-xine I just start totem?
[03:34] <mipe> nickrud:My last problem is with battery. I have laptop and icons(batter) dont show right.
[03:34] <jasoninPhoenix> windows whats that
[03:34] <StDellis> cafuego the ad-hoc mode way
[03:34] <cribeiro> dooglus: I dont know - I assume you use some other boot manager. but the kernel *is* a standard package and is updated this way.
[03:34] <cafuego> StDellis: Ad hoc mode? yes. Just tell it to use computer-to-computer networks.
[03:34] <cafuego> StDellis: (which is what ad-hoc is)
[03:34] <StDellis> cafuego ok thanks
[03:34] <jasoninPhoenix> I have a toshiba 8200
[03:34] <Talisker> is flash 8 for linux about to be released, like, ever?
[03:34] <mipe> nickrud:I have not got good english. Excuseme please.
[03:34] <dooglus> cribeiro: dapper tells me that the version I have (2.6.12.16) is the current version for linux-686
[03:35] <deedea> someone answer this please: how can i get a compiler for ubuntu
[03:35] <cribeiro> now my turnto ask :-) does anyone here know how to have a specification in the Ubuntu launchpad reviewed?
[03:35] <dooglus> deedea: install "build-essential"
[03:35] <robotgeek> deedea: sudo apt-get intall build-essential
[03:35] <cafuego> !info linux-image-686 dapper
[03:35] <ubotu> linux-image-686: (Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.), section base, is optional. Version: 2.6.12.16 (dapper), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[03:35] <cribeiro> deedea: depends on the language, of course...
[03:35] <cafuego> dooglus: Perhaps the default, not the latest.
[03:35] <jasoninPhoenix> dialup connection
[03:35] <jasoninPhoenix> yikes
[03:36] <liquidboy> how do i stream asx files? is there some plugin for xmms or something?
[03:36] <deedea> ok thx
[03:36] <cafuego> !restrictedformats
[03:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[03:36] <dooglus> cafuego: how did you get 2.6.15 then?
[03:36] <dooglus> !info linux-image-386 dapper
[03:36] <ubotu> linux-image-386: (Linux kernel image on 386.), section base, is optional. Version: 2.6.12.16 (dapper), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[03:36] <cafuego> dooglus: via' apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-amd64-k8'
[03:36] <deedea> doesn't work
[03:36] <deedea> I'm on french ubuntu
[03:37] <n00b> hello
[03:37] <cafuego> liquidboy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:37] <deedea> sorry
[03:37] <deedea> my mistake
[03:37] <DaaJeH> How can you ur ip address show somwthing like daajeh.something.net and change it as you want ?
[03:37] <nickrud> mipe, sorry, I had to step away for a sec; I don't have a laptop, so I can't help there
[03:37] <n00b> how do i mount floppy drive that has windows formatted disk?
[03:37] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: use DYnDNS or some similar service
[03:37] <cafuego> DaaJeH: Bu 1) having control of a netblock 2) owning the domain in question and and 3) running a DNS server
[03:37] <puff> how do I determine which devicein /dev i smy USB drive?
[03:38] <dooglus> cafuego: I hadn't updated dapper for a week or so.  It just downloaded 213 packages!  Looks like people have been busy :)
[03:38] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: check it at http://www.dyndns.org
[03:38] <cafuego> cribeiro: That won't work for reverse lookups.
[03:38] <varsendagger> maddash, no it is not noisless
[03:38] <DaaJeH> How does it work?
[03:38] <DaaJeH> I can change it as I want?
[03:38] <deedea> ok
[03:38] <deedea> where is TCL
[03:38] <deedea> on ubuntu
[03:38] <cribeiro> cafuego: using DynDNS is enough for many uses... as far as dynamic DNS is concerned. And no need to use a DNS server
[03:38] <dooglus> DaaJeH: are you talking about how you look here, when connected to freenode?
[03:39] <cafuego> deedea: You need to ebale the 'universe' repository and run 'sudo apt-get install eggdrop'.
[03:39] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: check the docs at DynDNS.org. They have good HowTos.
[03:39] <mipe> nickud:It is ok. Thank you very much. :-)
[03:39] <cafuego> deedea: You don't need to search for other software and/or compile stuff.
[03:39] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: and there are some ready made packages for Ubuntu too.
[03:39] <DaaJeH> dooglus I didn't understand
[03:39] <dooglus> DaaJeH: what are you trying to do?
[03:39] <DaaJeH> cribeiro: Thank you. Let me check it
[03:40] <cribeiro> cafuego: Well, it does nt work for reverse lookups, you're right. Sorry.
[03:40] <dooglus> DaaJeH: you say you want your "ip address show something" - where do you want it to show?
[03:40] <DaaJeH> dooglus: like when I connect to IRC to show somethng daajeh.net or something like that
[03:40] <dooglus> DaaJeH: right.  for that you'll need to register daajeh.net
[03:40] <deedea> cafuego, you are giving me wrong instructions
[03:40] <cafuego> DaaJeH: By 1) having control of a netblock 2) owning the domain in question and and 3) running a DNS server
[03:40] <cafuego> deedea: No, I am not.
[03:40] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: my answer solves only one half of the problem... and unfortunately isnt YOUR half :-(
[03:40] <deedea> well
[03:41] <deedea> the command u gave me is not working
[03:41] <deedea> sorry
[03:41] <DaaJeH> Do I have to register over one
[03:41] <cafuego> deedea: it will once you enable the 'universe' repository and update your package lists.
[03:41] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: cafuego is right. There are two parts to solve. 1: you need a domain for yourself.
[03:42] <n00b> how do i mount floppy drive that has windows formatted disk?
[03:42] <deedea> sudo apt-get install eggdrop
[03:42] <deedea> sorry
[03:42] <deedea> bash: enable: universe: not a shell builtin
[03:42] <dooglus> !repositories
[03:42] <ubotu> somebody said repositories was How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[03:42] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: you need the reverse domain. Its something that you have to pay for...  a good ISP or hosting provider can solve it for you.
[03:42] <DaaJeH> cafuego: thanks
[03:42] <dooglus> deedea: go to that URL and follow instructions.  you need to enable universe
[03:42] <cafuego> deedea: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:43] <DaaJeH> cribeiro:Thank you
[03:43] <n00b> anyone: how do i mount floppy drive that has windows formatted disk?
[03:43] <dooglus> n00b: NTFS?
[03:44] <zoexii> hello, I have a question about the 386 vs. 686 kernels,  What is the difference?  If I have a PIII which should I use?
[03:44] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: for it to work in the two directions you have to own BOTH the domain name (this one you can buy) AND the IP address (this one is much more difficult)
[03:44] <frank-san> How can I mount my windows HD for read/write?
[03:44] <cafuego> DaaJeH:Normally your ISP would charge you extra for having a fixed IP address *and* custom reverse domain entry.
[03:44] <zoexii> frank-san, is it NTFS?
[03:44] <frank-san> yes
[03:44] <Knowerrors> Any Xubuntu users here?  Just installed it and things aren't working...
[03:44] <dooglus> frank-san: reformat it to ext3 or reiserfs is the safest way
[03:44] <n00b> d00glus: it is a floppdrive & the files were originally saved with window 98 so i am guesin fat32
[03:44] <cafuego> DaaJeH: Well, normally they wouldn't do the second part at all, but you might be lucky.
[03:45] <DaaJeH> cafuego: Can you explain more please
[03:45] <frank-san> I'm trying to resize the windows partition so I can have a dual boot
[03:45] <frank-san> trying to use gparted to do the job
[03:45] <dooglus> n00b: you could try mounting with "-t auto" and see if the format is detected.  otherwise "-t vfat" specifies the FAT format
[03:45] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: I'll try to explain
[03:45] <DaaJeH> cafuego: hummmm. I see urs like i.am.cafuego.geek.nz
[03:45] <zoexii> frank-san, than you don't want it mounted,
[03:45] <zoexii> frank-san, you can't use gparted on a mounted partition.,
[03:46] <DaaJeH> cafuego: how do you get to do that?
[03:46] <kelbizzle_> config.status: error: cannot find input file: src/liba52/Makefile.in
[03:46] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: there are two parts in this protocol. One is to convert the domain in the IP number. This one is easy.
[03:46] <frank-san> zoexii, okay - it's not working as is when booting ubuntu
[03:46] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: the second part is to do the "reverse". To convert the IP back into the domain.
[03:46] <DaaJeH> Can you tell me how
[03:46] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: problem is ... the domain can be easily boughty, many companies are happy to sell it to you.
[03:47] <cafuego> DaaJeH: I have a rackmounted server at a hosting provider, which comes with up to 32 IP addresses (for an extra charge) that I can configure to use with any domain names I have also bought.
[03:47] <slew> hi, whats the command to get the build-essential packages?
[03:47] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: but the actual IP number is usually dynamic and is much harder to buy.
[03:47] <zoexii> frank-san, I don't understand the situation, are you trying to resize using a live CD?  Is linux already installed on the HD or not?
[03:47] <frank-san> zoexii, winXP is installed
[03:47] <cafuego> DaaJeH: The hosting provider owns the IP addresses and allow me to customise how they appear via an interface to add or chnage entries on their domain name server.
[03:47] <frank-san> zoexii, I booted WITH A LIVE cd
[03:47] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: so, UNLESS you have a PERMANENT IP address... which is neither usual or inexpensive... you are usually out of luck
[03:48] <zoexii> frank-san, ok.  and you tried to resize with gparted... what goes wrong?
[03:48] <[linner] > yo yo yo ya'll
[03:48] <[linner] > :)
[03:48] <DaaJeH> cribeiro how much do you pay a month?
[03:48] <mustard5> frank-san, have you done any preperatory steps like defragging your windows drive from windows beforehand?
[03:48] <Linoob> quick basic question -- do i need anything besides gtk+ dev libraries to get make working?
[03:48] <[linner] > !seen thoreauputic
[03:48] <ubotu> thoreauputic <n=prospero@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 16h 39m 12s ago, saying: '!coc'.
[03:48] <HansZwolle> thoreauputic!n=prospero@wolax8-234.dialup.optusnet.com.au was last seen 33 day 10 hr 33 min 29 s ago
[03:48] <frank-san> zoexii, it seems to go through the motions - no error msg -- but when finished it hasn't resized
[03:49] <frank-san> zoexii, maybe there is a log file
[03:49] <cafuego> HansZwolle: can you turn that script off, please?
[03:49] <kelbizzle_> config.status: error: cannot find input file: src/liba52/Makefile.in
[03:49] <kelbizzle_>  <~~asnyone kjnow what that means?
[03:49] <[linner] > nalioth, how are you dear?
[03:49] <cafuego> kelbizzle_: What are you compiling?
[03:50] <n00b> d00glas: how do i mount floppy. would it be "sudo mount -t vfat a:
[03:50] <n00b> "?
[03:50] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: I dont have a permanent IP address at home. However I do have one at work. And I pay at least three times as much, mainly because of the permanent address and the reverse domain name.
[03:50] <Badman[OFF] > i have question
[03:50] <[linner] > hey everyone... how can I find out what version of the ndiswrapper is installed on my system?
[03:50] <NoUse> n00b you use gnome?
[03:51] <n00b> nouse: yes, but using terminal
[03:51] <Bicchi> what do i need to install to be able to use gtkmm in ubuntu?
[03:51] <dooglus> last time thoreauputic was here was around 16 hours ago
[03:51] <Badm4n> !Q : who can tell me how to connect LinkSys Wusb11 ver 2.6 on hoary or maybe 5.10
[03:51] <ubotu> Badm4n: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[03:51] <[linner] > dooglus, thanks :)
[03:51] <nalioth> [linner] : great! and you?
[03:51] <[linner] > nalioth, tired... but fine thanks!
[03:51] <DaaJeH> cafuego : How about you? how much you pay?
[03:51] <cafuego> DaaJeH: Around AU$300 per month
[03:51] <DaaJeH> cribeiro: Thank you
[03:51] <NoUse> n00b check /etc/fstab, find the mount point of /dev/fd0 and just type 'mount /mountpoint'
[03:52] <cafuego> DaaJeH: (for a managed server and a handful of addresses)
[03:52] <kelbizzle_> cafuego: Xine
[03:52] <DaaJeH> cafuego: dollars?
[03:52] <cafuego> kelbizzle_: Why don't you just install the precompiled one?
[03:52] <cafuego> DaaJeH: Yes
[03:52] <kelbizzle_> how
[03:52] <cafuego> kelbizzle_: sudo apt-get install xine-ui
[03:53] <mipe> What mplayer Shall I installed i386,i586,custom?
[03:53] <DaaJeH> cafuego: too much!
[03:53] <cafuego> mipe: depends on your cpu
[03:53] <Badm4n> ?
[03:53] <mipe> cafuego:My Cpu is Celeron M.
[03:53] <cafuego> DaaJeH: No, not really.
[03:53] <cafuego> mipe: i686 then
[03:53] <zoexii> frank-san, to be honest I've never had to resize an NTFS,
[03:53] <kronicdreamer> 2005-11-15: 5 CDs (sent to shipping company) < does that mean on the way?
[03:53] <mipe> cafeu:Thank you.
[03:53] <zoexii> frank-san, but this site might have something useful: http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html
[03:54] <frank-san> zoexii, thx anyway
[03:54] <_crimson> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/43267 could help me??
[03:54] <kronicdreamer> thats the shipit stuff
[03:54] <kelbizzle_> cafuego: Where is the system alerts and stuff
[03:54] <cafuego> DaaJeH: Well, it IS too much if all you want is a custom reverse dns entry.
[03:54] <DaaJeH> 300 U.S Dollars a month is much for me:_)
[03:54] <cafuego> DaaJeH: I never mentioned the US. Bah.
[03:54] <mipe> cafeu:i686 is not there, can I install i586?
[03:54] <slew> hehe
[03:54] <cafuego> DaaJeH: This is a server that hosts web and mail for 80+ clients, not just a toy so i can have a cute name on irc ;-)
[03:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> http://base.google.com/base/items?oid=4470111404086175158 <-- bwha hah hah
[03:55] <cafuego> mipe: Yep
[03:55] <n00b> NoUse & Dooglus: Thank You
[03:55] <DaaJeH> cafuego: how much would it be in U.S?
[03:55] <cafuego> !300*0.76
[03:55] <ubotu> 228
[03:55] <kronicdreamer> does this mean it wont be long? 2005-11-15: 5 CDs (sent to shipping company)
[03:55] <cafuego> About that much
[03:55] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: here in Brazil it costs around R$300 -> about US$150.
[03:56] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: but that's for very little bandwidth. You would probably want more :-)
[03:56] <cafuego> kronicdreamer: Depends how long they need to be on a boat for.
[03:56] <Tank-> Hahaha - [10:54:56]  <cafuego> DaaJeH: This is a server that hosts web and mail for 80+ clients, not just a toy so i can have a cute name on irc ;-), I have 16 mail servers that host mail for 800,000 people but I still think there a toy :)
[03:56] <DaaJeH> cribeiro: cool: but isn't it kinda high in Brazil
[03:56] <kronicdreamer> on a boat?
[03:56] <kronicdreamer> :S
[03:57] <kronicdreamer> mississippi usa
[03:57] <cafuego> kronicdreamer: Did you think they were going to waste money on air mail?
[03:57] <cafuego> kronicdreamer: (I assume you're asking about ShipIt)
[03:57] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: this kind of pricing is possible in cable networks (using cable modems) or in small ISPs, usually because you can convince the ISp owner to do it for you :-)
[03:57] <dooglus> frank-san: I only ever resized an NTFS partition once.  I spent ages running Windows defrag, but it seemed to be pretty useless.  In the end bootit worked for me.
[03:57] <Badm4n> !Q : who can tell me how to connect LinkSys Wusb11 ver 2.6 on hoary or maybe 5.10 [03:57] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Badm4n
[03:57] <cribeiro> dooglus: I did it lots of times recently (defrag & resize) always flawlessly.
[03:58] <frank-san> dooglus, boot it - is that installed with Ubuntu?
[03:58] <DaaJeH> cribeiro: Can you give me more explaination?
[03:58] <cafuego> kronicdreamer: They don't get shipped from the US.
[03:58] <dooglus> frank-san: no, it's a separate program.  it's not ever free, but the evaluation version works fine.  and you only need to run it once...
[03:58] <misfit_toy> kronicdreamer, expect it to take about 4-6 weeks
[03:58] <dooglus> !bootitng
[03:58] <ubotu> it has been said that bootitng is a program which can resize NTFS partitions.  A fully functional evaluation copy is available from http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html
[03:59] <frank-san> dooglus, have a URL?
[03:59] <cafuego> an axe or magnet can resize ntfs aprtitions too
[03:59] <dooglus> frank-san: look up a line or two
[03:59] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: the ISP, even small ones, do have a block of IP addresses assigned to them.. and they usually run the DNS sefrver themselves. For a small ISP it isnt too hard to sell you a dedicated IP address. The administrative cost isnt that high.
[03:59] <[linner] > cafuego, ... do you know how can I find out what version of the ndiswrapper is installed on my system?
[03:59] <cafuego> [linner] : dpkg -l ndiswrapper-utils
[04:00] <[linner] > cafuego, I knew you'd know. :)  thank you
[04:00] <frank-san> dooglus, thx
[04:00] <Badm4n> Question : who can tell me how to connect LinkSys Wusb11 ver 2.6 on hoary or maybe 5.10 [04:00] <[linner] > cafuego, HAS the magic :)
[04:00] <Badm4n> maybe gimme the link ?
[04:00] <cafuego> s/the/teh/
[04:00] <cafuego> (more special that way)
[04:01] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: the problem here is twofold. First, it's kind of hard to get a big block of IP addresses. Small ISPs may have a few ones to spare. And the administrative cost is high if have a big ISP, because managing thousand of IP addresses can be a pain in the ass.
[04:01] <cafuego> Badm4n: http://www.google.com/?q=wusb11+linux
[04:01] <DaaJeH> cribeiro: so I can ask them for dedicated ip
[04:01] <cribeiro> DaaJeH: yes. small ISPs are your best chance for a deal, they may be easier to deail with
[04:01] <[linner] > cafuego, ok... so i have an old version... besides sourceforge... where can i easily install the newest version without having to compile it....any suggestions?
[04:02] <cafuego> Not to mention a /24 netblock (smallest unit for management purposes) costs and arm and a leg.
[04:02] <DaaJeH> like comcast!
[04:02] <r00723r0> hi
[04:02] <cafuego> [linner] : Not. Compiling will be involved either way.
[04:02] <mipe> What media player is good?
[04:02] <r00723r0> is there any way to make ubuntu recognize wpa?
[04:03] <cafuego> r00723r0: Via wpa_supplicant
[04:03] <[linner] > cafuego, crap... ok... i've tried to do it using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto but am having a tough time
[04:03] <r00723r0> apt-get wpa_supplicant?
[04:03] <cafuego> r00723r0: No idea, I just gave you all knowledge I have on the topic ;-)
[04:03] <r00723r0> lol
[04:03] <r00723r0> thanks
[04:03] <Badm4n> :( no one can help ?
[04:03] <DaaJeH> cribeiro: gracias amigo :-)
[04:03] <r00723r0> anyone else know?
[04:03] <r00723r0> how i can make ubuntu recognize wpa?
[04:04] <dooglus> tell r00723r0 about wpa
[04:04] <dooglus> !tell r00723r0 about wpa
[04:04] <r00723r0> COOL
[04:04] <r00723r0> ubotu is awesome
[04:04] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, r00723r0
[04:04] <r00723r0> ubotu: hi
[04:04] <ubotu> que tal, r00723r0
[04:04] <[linner> linner | AWAY
[04:04] <r00723r0> WHEEE
[04:04] <slew> hi, im using the default sound card thats built into my mobo, a via something. do i need extra drivers for this?
[04:05] <slew> its currently working.
[04:05] <dooglus> cafuego: you're still wearing that cloak of invisibility I see :)
[04:05] <r00723r0> !tell me about wpa
[04:05] <khermans> ubotu easyrepo is sudo sed -i 's/main restricted/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:05] <ubotu> khermans: okay
[04:05] <r00723r0> i have a question
[04:05] <r00723r0> to get wpa_supplicant, do i need an active net connection?
[04:05] <cafuego> khermans: That might mess up the line for security
[04:06] <cafuego> r00723r0: Most likely, yes.
[04:06] <r00723r0> damnit
[04:06] <cantona> hi, anyone how to dd and scp to backup hdd at same time?
[04:06] <r00723r0> slew, if it aint broken, dont fix it
[04:06] <dooglus> does it matter if security has universe and multiverse as well?  what's the problem?
[04:06] <cafuego> !rule 1
[04:06] <ubotu> Rule number one: Don't fix it if it isn't broken!
[04:06] <Badm4n> Question : who can tell me how to connect LinkSys Wusb11 ver 2.6 on hoary or maybe 5.10 [04:06] <Badm4n> ubotu: Linksys
[04:06] <ubotu> Badm4n: What?
[04:06] <r00723r0> WHEEEE
[04:07] <Badm4n> ubotu: Linksys wusb11 v2.5
[04:07] <ubotu> Badm4n: I don't know
[04:07] <r00723r0> ubotu is the hacks
[04:07] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, r00723r0
[04:07] <kelbizzle_> Setting up libmodplug0 (0.7-3) ...
[04:07] <kelbizzle_> Setting up libxine1 (1.0-1ubuntu3.3) ...
[04:07] <kelbizzle_> Setting up xine-ui (0.99.3-1ubuntu1) ...
[04:07] <r00723r0> ubotu++
[04:07] <kelbizzle_> wasthat it?
[04:07] <Badm4n> Question : who can tell me how to connect LinkSys Wusb11 ver 2.6 on hoary or maybe 5.10 [04:07] <kelbizzle_> wheres xine
[04:07] <sajd> xine video player
[04:07] <Netslayer> when i open synaptic i can see a sun-j2re1.5 but i don't see an sdk for it? where can i get that...do i have the wrong name?
[04:07] <cafuego> Badm4n: The fact that nobody answered despite you repeating the same question every 15 minutes for the past 2 hours should be a fair indication nobody knows. try google.
[04:08] <cafuego> Netslayer: You need to download it from Sun; then convert it according to the instructions on the wiki.
[04:08] <Badm4n> i have try uncle google
[04:08] <Badm4n> but ubunto forum have same question :(
[04:08] <khermans> cafuego, why would it mess up anything
[04:08] <Netslayer> cafuego, thx
[04:08] <stran> greetings!
[04:08] <khermans> cafuego, there are universe and multiverse security updates
[04:08] <Badm4n> i thought someone here had that problem b4 and solved :(
[04:08] <Badm4n> :D
[04:09] <stran> anyone good with bluetooth?
[04:09] <cafuego> khermans: There are? I thought they were unsupported.
[04:09] <khermans> cafuego, no they definitely exaist -- i use them
[04:09] <linner|AWAY> do you guys know how to disabled the updating the clock at boot?
[04:09] <puff> How do i figure out what /dev/foo belongs to my USB drive?
[04:09] <cafuego> khermans: Cool, ignore what I said then :-)
[04:09] <slew> does anyone know where the pkg-config path is?
[04:09] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Howdy all,  I was just wondering if anyone had some time to tell me "your" opinion on Ubuntu.  I was bout to try out Fedora but saw Ubuntu and thought I've give it a looksy.
[04:09] <kelbizzle_> how do i play mp3s?
[04:09] <cafuego> puff: dmesg
[04:10] <cafuego> !tell kelbizzle_ -about restictedformats
[04:10] <jedrick> How to install .deb file?
[04:10] <khermans> cafuego, see here --> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/
[04:10] <fanopnaic> jedrick: dpkg -i
[04:10] <NoUse> !deb
[04:10] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, deb is To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[04:10] <cafuego> d'oh
[04:10] <dooglus> jedrick: sudo dpkg -i <deb-file>
[04:10] <stran> xUnk- it's pretty sweet. much better than fedora
[04:10] <cafuego> !tell kelbizzle_ -about restrictedformats
[04:10] <cafuego> kelbizzle_: Check what ubotu just told you :-)
[04:10] <stran> as in muuuch better. but then I've never been a redhat guy
[04:10] <jedrick> ok thnx
[04:10] <puff> cafuego: something should be added to the dmesg output when i plug in my usb rive?
[04:11] <cafuego> puff: yep, something about /dev/sdX
[04:11] <khermans> !tell khermans about easyrepos
[04:11] <cafuego> puff: On breezy, it should also just show up on the desktop.
[04:11] <x[uNkNoWn] x> How better?  More stable, GUI ?
[04:11] <khermans> !tell khermans about easyrepo
[04:11] <cafuego> robert11: OH ... MY ... GOD
[04:11] <puff> cafuego: dmesg | fgrep -i /dev" --> nothing.
[04:12] <puff> cafuego: Normally it just appears, yeah, but not today.
[04:12] <robert11> I am here because
[04:12] <stran> the UI is very stable, though I have to admit I've had problems with ATI's accelerated driver (closed source)
[04:12] <robert11> daughter
[04:12] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Lemme put it this way.  I use 2K and 2K3 Server ..  Was in the mood to try something new for my server but I don't want to jump into Red Hat or anything that complicated yet.
[04:12] <robert11> insists that I tell all that edubuntu is COOL
[04:12] <cafuego> puff: Hmmm.
[04:12] <cafuego> robert11: :-)
[04:12] <stran> my only real complaint with the ui isn't the ui's fault...i'm on a laptop and my xorg.conf file needs occasional updating when devices disappear.
[04:13] <cafuego> robert11: Well, she's not wrong there ;-)
[04:13] <dooglus> x[uNkNoWn] x: I never tried fedora, but it's rubbish compared to ubuntu.
[04:13] <robert11> We need a desktop for boys though.
[04:13] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Great.. thats what I am going to test it one.. is my laptop
[04:13] <x[uNkNoWn] x> hehe
[04:13] <stran> well, Linux is not w2k. It just doesn't act the same way
[04:13] <khermans> how long does it take ubotu to update?
[04:13] <Badm4n> sorry i have other question
[04:13] <slew>  x[uNkNoWn] x try mandriva
[04:13] <cafuego> khermans: update what?
[04:13] <khermans> it didnt reply to my new factoid
[04:13] <Badm4n> what diferent between kbuntu and ubuntu
[04:13] <x[uNkNoWn] x> What is Mandriva?
[04:13] <slew> Badm4n, KDE
[04:13] <khermans> i did slash msg ubotu factoid
[04:13] <Badm4n> except the first letter
[04:14] <stran> another distro
[04:14] <stran> frankly, I think you'll enjoy ubuntu
[04:14] <khermans> x[uNkNoWn] x, old Mandrake
[04:14] <cafuego> khermans: You're not an identified user, you aren't allowed to /msg it.
[04:14] <dooglus> Badm4n: start with ubuntu.  subtract GNOME, add KDE.  you've got kubuntu
[04:14] <x[uNkNoWn] x> What would be the best for bigginners?
[04:14] <Badm4n> if i;m not wrong ubuntu GNOME ?
[04:14] <cafuego> !easyrepo
[04:14] <ubotu> easyrepo is, like, totally, sudo sed -i 's/main restricted/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:14] <khermans> cafuego, oh lol -- and i couldnt do a ! either
[04:14] <slew> x[uNkNoWn] x, mandriva is a good distro for beginners
[04:14] <x[uNkNoWn] x> I'd be doing FTP, WWW, and Mail Serving.
[04:14] <khermans> told me to msg it directly
[04:14] <slew> x[uNkNoWn] x, also linspire
[04:14] <dooglus> Badm4n: they should call it gubuntu really to remove all this confusion :)
[04:14] <cribeiro> Mandiriva is another distro. The names is Mandrake + Conectiva - two older distros that merged
[04:15] <Badm4n> doodz :D
[04:15] <Badm4n> opppss
[04:15] <cafuego> khermans: That only happens when a user goes '!tell myself about foo' (to cut down on spam)
[04:15] <Badm4n> dooglus :P
[04:15] <khermans> cafuego, yeah i just identified
[04:15] <stran> !tell myself about bluetooth
[04:15] <stran> lol
[04:15] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Okay.. I'ma go check out Mandriva then. bbiab
[04:15] <khermans> x[uNkNoWn] x, no!!
[04:15] <cribeiro> Does anyone here use the Ubuntu Launchpad?
[04:16] <x[uNkNoWn] x> No what? I was told to look at mandriva!
[04:16] <robert11> right Gnome VFS and Openoffice
[04:16] <khermans> cribeiro, yeah
[04:16] <dooglus> cribeiro: I've filed a few bugs in launchpad.  I don't like it though
[04:16] <stran> lol.... that's irc for ya
[04:16] <ana> Hi dad
[04:16] <khermans> launchpad is useful
[04:16] <cribeiro> What can I do too have a spec reviewed?
[04:16] <khermans> needed it to do ShipIt
[04:16] <jedrick> where can i get this file libqt3c102-mt ? im trying to install skye, and got the missing file
[04:16] <cribeiro> s/too/to
[04:16] <robert11> hello anna. Keep to the subject which is ubuntu
[04:16] <Badm4n> oh yes.. one more question....  shipit to INDONESIA really free or there are cost for shipping ?
[04:17] <Badm4n> ana ?
[04:17] <slew> hehehe
[04:17] <slew> ana rocks!
[04:17] <Badm4n> hmmm let seeee .....
[04:17] <khermans> jedrick, should be in the repos
[04:17] <robert11> My daughter on edubuntu
[04:17] <cafuego> robert11: I believe them to not currently be friends.
[04:17] <Badm4n>  may i ask your asl ana ?
[04:17] <Badm4n> :D
[04:17] <devint> can somebody please tell me where i can find a tutorial to install the gnome development headers like gnome.h and glide.h?
[04:17] <jedrick> k i'll try to check
[04:17] <dooglus> x[uNkNoWn] x: try the server install of ubuntu rather than mandriva.  then, when you get questions, you can ask us for help :)
[04:17] <khermans> !tell jedrick -about easyrepo
[04:17] <cafuego> Badm4n: Yes, free. Just takes a while (it goes by boat)
[04:17] <robert11> I really have to grovel in fstab?
[04:17] <slew> Badm4n, dude, her dad is right there!
[04:17] <Badm4n> robert11 : i wanna be your son in law on edubuntu then
[04:17] <cribeiro> khermans: I have a spec on the Launchpad that I would like to push :-)
[04:17] <Badm4n> cafuego : i see...
[04:17] <Badm4n> thx
[04:17] <cafuego> devint: The easiest solution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoApt
[04:18] <khermans> im no guy here, i just help when  can
[04:18] <cribeiro> khermans: for better support for MIDI & SoundFonts on Ubuntu
[04:18] <dooglus> devint: the easiest way is to "sudo apt-get build-dep gdm".  that will get you lots of gnome development packages.
[04:18] <ana> I prefer edubuntu
[04:18] <Badm4n> slew .... take it easy ... i'm his future son in law
[04:18] <Badm4n> ":D
[04:18] <cafuego> robert11: Unless you can be bothered with FUSE, sshfs and autofs....:-)
[04:18] <stran> seriously... bluetooth mouse....anyone?
[04:18] <dooglus> stran: no thanks
[04:18] <robert11> It needs solving properly
[04:18] <x[uNkNoWn] x> I'm looking for tut / docs on Ubu's site right now.   I like to try and figure it out on my own first.  I was just needing some advise as to what is a better os to try.
[04:18] <robotgeek> devint: you can also apt-cache showsrc package, and copy paste the dependencies
[04:19] <phinnaeus> stran: what you selling it?
[04:19] <robert11> I understand its not easy
[04:19] <stran> look, not selling....need some help getting it working :)
[04:19] <dooglus> x[uNkNoWn] x: ubuntu is a good dist to try.  I'm using it on a laptop right now without problems
[04:19] <stran> you wouldn't want it anyway... m$ mouse :)
[04:19] <cafuego> robert11: Well, if and when the gnome file dialogs get hacked into OOo2 it will probably be sorted.
[04:19] <stran> yah, i'm on a laptop... no problems
[04:19] <phinnaeus> stran: lol just kidding
[04:19] <x[uNkNoWn] x> I heard someone had problems with drivers and their laptop?
[04:19] <slew> Badm4n, hehe right on. was just joking anyway. =] 
[04:20] <Badm4n> you know.... in BAHASA INDONESIA ... buntu mean .... dead end...
[04:20] <x[uNkNoWn] x> I'd be using my laptop as well..   What problems are occuring so I'd know what to look for.
[04:20] <phinnaeus> stran: assume you are on 5.10
[04:20] <devint> wow
[04:20] <stran> yah
[04:20] <devint> is there an apt utility to remove all packages that aren't used?
[04:20] <stran> sorry, I dunno how to address individuals... many years have passed since I was last on irc
[04:21] <chesty> hello, how do I temporarily stop hotplug from managing the pluging in of a usb stick?
[04:21] <x[uNkNoWn] x> IRC ownz
[04:21] <dooglus> x[uNkNoWn] x: I've found firewire support to be patchy.  but that's the case in every linux distribution I've tried.
[04:21] <x[uNkNoWn] x> ;)
[04:21] <bimberi> devint: debfoster
[04:21] <cafuego> devint: 'deborphan' lists them, you can pipe the output into 'dpkg -P'
[04:21] <dooglus> x[uNkNoWn] x: other than that, it's fine
[04:21] <phinnaeus> stran: applications-->add apps-->system tools and look for the bluetooth ones
[04:21] <phinnaeus> stran: thats my guess
[04:21] <ana> what are we talking about?
[04:21] <x[uNkNoWn] x> I don't use firewire so thats okay.
[04:21] <thechitowncubs> Howdy.
[04:22] <Badm4n> ana : would you mind to start sshd services ? so ican sshd you ( i mean .. PV you rite now on irc :D )
[04:22] <slew> go cubs!
[04:22] <x[uNkNoWn] x> mm'ka.. I'ma go ahead and try Ubuntu..   I'll prolly be askin q's here and their as I get stumped.
[04:22] <stran> i'll give that a shot
[04:22] <devint> sweet
[04:22] <JohnP789> My nForce4 (forcedeth) network interface seems to die under heavy load.  Any pointers?
[04:22] <cribeiro> dooglus and/or khermans: once again... how can I have a specification reviewed?
[04:22] <robert11> You will have to get through her dads FIREWALL first!
[04:22] <khermans> cribeiro, dude im not a main guy -- no diea
[04:22] <annaandlev> hi
[04:22] <annaandlev> how do i set up wpa?
[04:22] <dooglus> cribeiro: I've no idea, sorry.
[04:22] <khermans> annaandlev, wpasupplicant
[04:22] <cribeiro> khermans: thanks anyway!
[04:23] <dooglus> cribeiro: I don't know if mailing the ubuntu-devel list is the right thing to do, but it might be.
[04:23] <cribeiro> dooglus: thanks too! I'm just a little bit frustrated
[04:23] <annaandlev> root@levandia:/home/annaandlev# apt-get install wpasupplicant
[04:23] <annaandlev> Reading package lists... Done
[04:23] <annaandlev> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:23] <annaandlev> E: Couldn't find package wpasupplicant
[04:23] <cafuego> Badm4n: Chatting up an 8-year-old on irc is not cool.
[04:23] <dooglus> !wpa
[04:23] <ubotu> [wpa]  sudo apt-get install wpa_supplicant
[04:23] <annaandlev> root@levandia:/home/annaandlev# apt-get install wpa_supplicant
[04:23] <annaandlev> Reading package lists... Done
[04:23] <annaandlev> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:23] <annaandlev> E: Couldn't find package wpa_supplicant
[04:23] <khermans> !tell annaandlev about easyrepo
[04:23] <Badm4n> cafuego :p
[04:23] <dabaR_> !paste
[04:23] <ubotu> paste is, like, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[04:24] <z3r0x> hi
[04:24] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Ubuntu is only 1 CD?   Is it really that small or do you have to update via web site updates after install?
[04:24] <annaandlev> x[uNkNoWn] x, there are some updates
[04:24] <annaandlev> but everything is installed
[04:24] <annaandlev> (at first)
[04:24] <Lathiat> x[uNkNoWn] x: yes it is, that 1 cd gives you a full install, you can install additional programs of the internet however
[04:24] <dabaR_> x[uNkNoWn] x: your question is not good, let me explain...
[04:24] <Xenguy> x[uNkNoWn] x: that is the whole point - you install and upgrade over the Net
[04:24] <dabaR_> x[uNkNoWn] x: or let Lathiat say what I wanted to...
[04:24] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Intresting.  Never seen a nux/nix OS having only 1 CD
[04:24] <dooglus> !wpa
[04:24] <ubotu> [wpa]  enable the universe repository and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant"
[04:25] <annaandlev> x[uNkNoWn] x, there are billions
[04:25] <annaandlev> most of the best
[04:25] <dabaR_> x[uNkNoWn] x: you are just new to gnu linux.
[04:25] <cafuego> x[uNkNoWn] x: In fact, some only have 1 FLOPPY
[04:25] <jasongrieves> i keep getting lock ups every 5-10 minutes, whihc log should i check, by lock up i mean i have to power off and back on
[04:25] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Proly
[04:25] <stran> hmmm... ok, bluetooth mouse is detected by the so-called "bluetooth manager", but no clue what driver needs to be loaded or waht the setup should look like in xorg.conf
[04:25] <stran> ideas?
[04:25] <jasongrieves> everything is locked, not even able to go to console
[04:25] <devint> this is so weird
[04:25] <khermans> x[uNkNoWn] x, like Knoppix
[04:25] <annaandlev> dooglus, it still wont go
[04:25] <jonmasters> You /can/ even get a Solaris live CD.
[04:25] <devint> Anjuta STILL can't find gnome.h even though i have almost every goddamn gnome development package installed
[04:26] <dooglus> x[uNkNoWn] x: the 1 CD is enough to get the OS up and running.  Obviously the CD doesn't include every package you could ever need though
[04:26] <dooglus> annaandlev: what?
[04:26] <annaandlev> #paste
[04:26] <dabaR_> devint: you have asked ubotu where the file is in which package?
[04:26] <dooglus> annaandlev: you need to enable the universe repo first
[04:26] <annaandlev> i did
[04:26] <z3r0x> I have an error with my mct_u232 module -> MCT USB-RS232: unsupported baudrate request, I found a patch for kernel 2.6.12-rc2 and I have 2.6.12-9-386. Can I use this patch?
[04:26] <annaandlev> root@levandia:/home/annaandlev# sed -i 's/main restricted/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:26] <dooglus> annaandlev: #paste again - I'm there now
[04:26] <dabaR_> x[uNkNoWn] x: is feeling like a newbie a bad feeling?
[04:26] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Whats the diff between the DVD and CD ISO?   I aint gonna waste a DVD if it dont make a diff.
[04:26] <devint> dabaR_: i have almost every gnome package installed
[04:27] <jonmasters> z3r0x: In all probability you can.
[04:27] <khermans> annaandlev, no do aptitude update
[04:27] <dabaR_> devint: I read that before, and it does not answer my question
[04:27] <cafuego> z3r0x: probably, yes.
[04:27] <jasongrieves> i keep getting lock ups every 5-10 minutes, whihc log should i check, by lock up i mean i have to power off and back on
[04:27] <jonmasters> z3r0x: In all probability, you can.
[04:27] <lightbright> hello
[04:27] <x[uNkNoWn] x> eh.. Newbie aint a bad thing .. gotta start somewere.  :)
[04:27] <dooglus> !wpa
[04:27] <ubotu> it has been said that wpa is enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant"
[04:27] <lightbright> where is the guy who was helping me install mplayer by source code?
[04:27] <z3r0x> cafuego, how can I use the patch? where can I find a tutorial how to patch a kernel?
[04:27] <Octane> anyone here have a pop3 solution for yahoo for free?
[04:27] <cafuego> z3r0x: You will need to fetch 'build-essential', 'kernel-package', 'libncurses5-dev' and 'gcc-3.4'
[04:27] <Octane> ypops seems to have gone broke
[04:28] <cafuego> z3r0x: .. and the kernel source.
[04:28] <dooglus> annaandlev: does that extra step fix it?
[04:28] <devint> dabaR_: i understand the question then
[04:28] <khermans> Octane, get gmail already!
[04:28] <annaandlev> yes, it does
[04:28] <robotgeek> Octane: check the webmail extension in thunderbird. there;s also something called fetchmail yahoo
[04:28] <z3r0x> cafuego, I already installed this package..but how can I patch it?
[04:28] <Octane> khermans: have it... but i prefer yahoo :)
[04:28] <devint> all i want s gnome.h why does it have to be so hard?
[04:28] <khermans> Octane, really?
[04:28] <Octane> khermans: ya all my mailing lists go there
[04:28] <annaandlev> dooglus, it doesnt
[04:29] <dabaR> devint: perhaps it ahs to perhaps you did not know where to ask.
[04:29] <annaandlev> nvm
[04:29] <dooglus> devint: it's not hard.
[04:29] <annaandlev> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[04:29] <cafuego> z3r0x: via the 'patch' command.
[04:29] <devint> everyone's telling me use auto-apt, dpkg --rebuild-whatever, apt-file, etc, etc, etc
[04:29] <annaandlev> i do apt-get update
[04:29] <annaandlev> and try again
[04:29] <annaandlev> does same thing
[04:29] <khermans> devint, gnome-devel ?
[04:29] <blanky> What packages do I need for php4, mysql, and apache servers
[04:29] <devint> khermans: still no gnome.h though
[04:29] <dabaR> devint: I suggest registering your nick if you have not already, and doing: /msg ubotu find gnome.h and seeing what he tells you.
[04:29] <x[uNkNoWn] x> What FTPD and Mail Server works for Ubuntu
[04:29] <cafuego> z3r0x: cd into the kernel source directory, then run 'patch -p1 --dry-run < /path/to/the/patchfile.diff'
[04:29] <z3r0x> cafuego, oh didn't know that there is a patch command. thx I'll look at the manpage
[04:29] <khermans> blanky, php4, mysql-server, apache2
[04:29] <z3r0x> thx
[04:29] <lightbright> anyone know how to install mplayer from the source codes?
[04:30] <cafuego> z3r0x: That TRIED to patch, will print an errors that would occur, but doesn't apply any changes.
[04:30] <blanky> khermans: thanks
[04:30] <dooglus> devint: "find /usr/include -name gnome.h" - does that find it?
[04:30] <z3r0x> cafuego, do I have to unload the module first
[04:30] <dabaR> lightbright: I could find a howto, do you really need to?
[04:30] <robotgeek> devint: libgnomeui-dev:
[04:30] <cafuego> blanky: apache2-mpm-prefork, mysql-server, libapache2-mod-php4, php4-mysql
[04:30] <annaandlev> how do i add wpasupplicant to the default runlevel on reboot?
[04:30] <annaandlev> sorry, new to ubuntu
[04:30] <jasongrieves> i keep getting lock ups every 5-10 minutes, whihc log should i check, by lock up i mean i have to power off and back on
[04:30] <cafuego> z3r0x: Not now, no.
[04:30] <devint> dooglus: yes, but there in directories such as libgnomeui and gnome-1.0
[04:31] <lightbright> dabaR: does the mplayer work properly using apt-get?
[04:31] <devint> robotgeek: let me try that
[04:31] <dabaR> lightbright: yes.
[04:31] <dooglus> devint: that's where it belongs
[04:31] <annaandlev> e.g. how do i make wpasupplicant run on startup?
[04:31] <devint> robotgeek: already sintalled :-)
[04:31] <dabaR> lightbright: its in multiverse IIRC
[04:31] <z3r0x> cafuego, ok and do I have to recompile the kernel or do something after patching it?
[04:31] <lightbright> dabaR: is it possible to get open programs showing on taskbar so I can click to switch programs?
[04:31] <Octane> robotgeek: fetchmail -- "`x86_64-unknown' not recognized"
[04:32] <robotgeek> Octane: fetchmail or fetchyahoo ?
[04:32] <annaandlev> e.g. how do i make wpasupplicant run on startup?
[04:32] <Octane> fetchmail
[04:32] <dabaR> lightbright: its called the panel, you want an area in the bottom panel that shows you all open windows?
[04:32] <dooglus> libgnome-dev has /usr/include/gnome-1.0/gnome.h and libgnomeui-dev has /usr/include/libgnomeui-2.0/gnome.h
[04:32] <lightbright> dabaR: is the only way to switch between programs by shift+alt ?
[04:32] <Octane> ahh fetchyahoo uses fetchamil no?
[04:32] <annaandlev> alt+tab
[04:32] <lightbright> dabaR: yeah, is that possible, because now I have to  switch between programs by shift+alt
[04:32] <annaandlev> what is the command to add programs to startup
[04:32] <devint> dooglus: wait, so you're telling me I have to #include <libgnomeui-2.0/gnome.h> ?
[04:32] <annaandlev> !startup
[04:32] <ubotu> annaandlev: I haven't a clue
[04:32] <robotgeek> Octane: no fetchmail is different
[04:32] <lightbright> shitft+tab sorry
[04:32] <dabaR> lightbright: no in fact you have by default that what you want in gnome. are you using ubuntu?
[04:32] <dooglus> devint: or use a -I compile flag
[04:33] <blanky> cafuego should I install them in all at once or one after the other in taht order
[04:33] <z3r0x> cafuego, stupid question...I cant find /usr/src/linux....there is only a rpm directory
[04:33] <annaandlev> what is the command to add programs to startup
[04:33] <lightbright> dabaR: using breeze
[04:33] <lightbright> annaandlev: what?
[04:33] <annaandlev> when a computer starts up
[04:33] <annaandlev> it runs programs
[04:33] <lightbright> annaandlev: say it again Sam :)
[04:33] <annaandlev> how do i add an init.d program for startup?
[04:34] <robotgeek> dooglus: libgnome2-dev -> libgnome.h
[04:34] <lightbright> annaandlev:  and again :)
[04:34] <annaandlev> ?
[04:34] <lightbright> dabaR: using breeze 5.10 Ubuntu
[04:34] <dabaR> lightbright: hm, why is it not there... right click on the bottom panel, and select add to panel. In the list, select one that does that, I think it is called the "Window List" not sure though, I stopped using gnome(the desktop environment), a while ago...
[04:34] <dooglus> annaandlev: you link it into /etc/rc[2345] .d/
[04:34] <cafuego> z3r0x: yes, you will need to rebuild the kernel.
[04:34] <annaandlev> explain dooglus
[04:34] <lightbright> dabaR: you using Ubuntu with KDE?
[04:35] <lightbright> dabaR: window list worked, thanks :)
[04:35] <dabaR> lightbright: its called openbox, you can search the ubuntuforums.org for "stormy eyes openbox"
[04:35] <z3r0x> cafuego, with make && make modules_install ?
[04:35] <robotgeek> annaandlev: or go to cd /etc/init.d/ , and put all you want to execute in a script and say sudo update-rc.d script defaults
[04:35] <lightbright> dabaR: why do you prefer openbox over gnome and KDE?
[04:35] <mikelinux> simple
[04:35] <Se7h> is there any problem with the v4l ? when i try to capture a frame from the webcam the whole system freezes :|
[04:36] <mikelinux> and light
[04:36] <dabaR> lightbright: do you use a fork if you prefer a spoon, or chop sticks? I use openbox.
[04:36] <robotgeek> devint: dpkg -S <file> will tell you which package provides a file
[04:37] <lightbright> dabaR: well I would tell you why I would prefer a spoon over chop sticks if you asked me
[04:37] <lightbright> dabaR:  I guess you cant tell me
[04:37] <dabaR> lightbright: because it is minimal, and that is what I prefer rigth now. No this and that, just what I need.
[04:37] <devint> robotgeek: thank you
[04:37] <blanky> sould IU use mysql-server-4.1 or mysql-server
[04:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i edit file associations?
[04:37] <robotgeek> blanky: 4.1
[04:38] <blanky> kay
[04:38] <dabaR> lightbright: I misread, I thought it said do I prefer it over them.
[04:38] <khermans> blanky, just use mysql-server
[04:38] <lightbright> dabaR: ok thanks for sharing
[04:38] <khermans> blanky, if you want to get all the stuff in one shot -- install phpmyadmin
[04:38] <lightbright> dabaR:  im new to Ubuntu and learning
[04:39] <robotgeek> khermans: 4.0 has a bug
[04:39] <khermans> blanky, phpmyadmin is good for first time users to administer their mysql db
[04:39] <khermans> robotgeek, all software have bugs
[04:39] <linkd> its good all around
[04:39] <blanky> >: ( I already isntalled server :'(
[04:39] <robotgeek> blanky: get 4.1
[04:39] <z3r0x> cafuego, hm it couldn't find the file... drivers/usb/serial/mct_u232.c
[04:39] <robotgeek> khermans: it prevents from starting mysql server easily
[04:39] <blanky> for postfix configuration, should I choose internet site or local only
[04:39] <khermans> robotgeek, i have no issues
[04:39] <blanky> I wnat it to be local, but I want to access it through IP too
[04:39] <dabaR> lightbright: if you would like to see about openbox, and see how to install and start using, testing it out, search the forums for "openbox stormy eyes" like I said above, wasnt sure you caught it.
[04:40] <mrkris> hiya, lookin for xorgconfig for textmode configuration yet I do not see it on the system, does it exist in a seperate package?
[04:40] <lightbright> whats difference between installing mplayer-586  and mplayer-386  ?
[04:40] <khermans> blanky, thats a matter of firewalling -- to port 3306
[04:40] <zasilom> haveing a few problems installing Ubuntu on a serial-ata raid0 system..i can get it to see raid array..and install to it...but grub hangs every time...tried to install to a single SATA drive and same problem...useing a gigabyte board and ICH6 chipset...anyone have a suggestion?
[04:40] <lightbright> dabaR: ok ty
[04:40] <mrkris> lightbright, optimizations?
[04:40] <khermans> lightbright, the compilation of 586 uses faster instrauctions instead of 386
[04:40] <lightbright> mrkris: what?
[04:41] <lightbright> khermans: so you recommend I install 586?
[04:41] <dabaR> lightbright: you should do "uname -a" in a terminal, to find our which to install
[04:41] <khermans> lightbright, yes
[04:41] <nadia> trying to get my win xp box to view the share folder I have on my ubuntu box.  I get the username & pass prompt, but when I enter the username and pass that I use to get into the ubuntu box it doesn't like it.
[04:41] <dabaR> khermans: are you saying this cause you know, or are you just making it up along the way?
[04:41] <lightbright> dabaR: it said: Linux 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:41] <khermans> dabaR, ?
[04:41] <lightbright> dabaR:  so I cant install the mplayer-586?
[04:41] <khermans> i havent said anything weird
[04:42] <khermans> lightbright, yes 686 supercedes 856 -- install 586
[04:42] <mrkris> anyone know if xorgconfig is a seperate package or part of xorg ?
[04:42] <lightbright> khermans: can I install 586, even though my kernel says 386?
[04:42] <tritium> lightbright, most likely you can.  What processor do you have?  (if you don't know, cat /proc/cpuinfo)
[04:42] <dabaR> lightbright: it seems your kernel is a 386 one.
[04:42] <NightBird> nadia, I'm haveing the same problem...
[04:42] <NightBird> if you get anywhere, let me know :P
[04:42] <khermans> lightbright, the kernel may be 386 -- but 586 for mplayer is okay
[04:42] <lightbright> tritium: Celeron 800
[04:43] <nadia> nightbird, are you getting the prompt at least?
[04:43] <NightBird> yeah
[04:43] <lightbright> dabaR:  so can I still install mplayer-586?
[04:43] <khermans> yes
[04:43] <tritium> lightbright, 586 is fine.  You can also install linux-686 if you'd like to
[04:43] <NightBird> what I would like is that the people on a certain domain has read access from a certain directory
[04:43] <dabaR> lightbright: listen to tritium
[04:43] <nadia> nightbird, did you make the ubuntu a member of the win workgroup?
[04:43] <blanky> where is my apache folder so I can put things in it
[04:43] <khermans> lightbright, yes listen to tritium -- upgrade your kernel if you want even more optimization
[04:43] <lightbright> dabaR: yeah but does tritium know what his talking about? :)
[04:43] <NightBird> nadia, I don't have any control over the domain/workgroup
[04:44] <lightbright> tritium:  ;)
[04:44] <lightbright> khermans: how do I update my kernel?
[04:44] <tritium> lightbright, you're free to get second opinions ;)
[04:44] <dabaR> lightbright: would I tell you if he did not? or are you just mocking my question to khermans ?
[04:44] <khermans> lightbright, sudo aptitude install linux-686 ?
[04:44] <lightbright> dabaR: what?
[04:44] <nadia> nightbird, you can make ubuntu a member of the domain/workgroup.  they have to be on the same one don't they?
[04:44] <khermans> hey, im not making things up@
[04:44] <blanky> where can I find my apache server to add stuff to it, my www folder or whatever its called
[04:45] <tritium> lightbright, listen to dabaR and khermans :)
[04:45] <khermans> blanky, /var/www
[04:45] <dabaR> lightbright: You asked whether tritium knows what he is saying. After I recommended his opinion, and that is why I did so, cause he knows.
[04:45] <robert11> Hi blanky /var/www
[04:45] <NightBird> nadia, no idea
[04:45] <dabaR> lightbright: So I was wondering was that just a joke cause of my previous question to khermans.
[04:45] <StDellis> is there anyway to play windows games on linux? I wanna play risk 2 without having to go over to my windows partition all the time
[04:45] <shadeofgrey> okay
[04:45] <shadeofgrey> so
[04:45] <khermans> StDellis, yes use cedega
[04:45] <fanopnaic> StDellis: www.transgaming.com
[04:45] <tritium> dabaR, khermans :)
[04:45] <khermans> :-)
[04:46] <shadeofgrey> where does one go to get the w32codecs from again?
[04:46] <nadia> nightbird, can you see the ubuntu box when you check your network computers on your winxp box?
[04:46] <StDellis> doesnt cedega cost money though
[04:46] <dabaR> pretty funny altogether:) and my long explanation of a trivial matter...
[04:46] <shadeofgrey> i had to completely reinstall because of Fedora Core4 and its braindead anaconda installer
[04:46] <khermans> !tell shadeofgrey about w32codecs
[04:46] <khermans> StDellis, yes
[04:47] <StDellis> khermans damn no free alternativeds?
[04:47] <bur[n] er> StDellis: there's wine
[04:47] <ithiel> StDellis, wine and cedega are windows API translators that are capable of running most windows applications
[04:49] <khermans> StDellis, it costs a little bit -- but worth it if you gamer
[04:49] <hoew> shadeofgrey: I liked the installation from the ubuntu-lite CD
[04:49] <khermans> or, if you like newsgroups, http://www.newzbin.com/browse/post/1566122/
[04:49] <mrkris> ANYONE in here have xorgconfig/xorgcfg on there system?
[04:49] <tritium> mrkris, that's not what you want to use
[04:50] <tritium> mrkris, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:50] <mrkris> tritium, i am having difficult times configuring my triple-head display by hand
[04:50] <tritium> mrkris, I see...
[04:51] <blanky> thanks for the www folder
[04:51] <mrkris> I use xorgconfig textmode to configure it, and it worked great
[04:51] <shadeofgrey> hoew:  well its good to know that your finally usijng ubuntu... onew of the few linux distros worth their weight in binary these days
[04:52] <bob832> hi, quick question:  is there a way to have an address bar to be displayed in nautilus?
[04:53] <dabaR> bob832: yes, did you use hoary at all?
[04:53] <bob832> alittle
[04:53] <blanky> how can I make a shortcut to /var/www on my desktop (GNOME)
[04:53] <dabaR> bob832: so you mean like it was default there?
[04:54] <dabaR> blanky: add a shortcut for this command: nautilus file:///var/www
[04:54] <shadeofgrey> okay i put the seveas keys into my apt database, but what line am i supposed to enter into my sources.luist file?
[04:54] <bob832> i think . . .its been awhile. . .what i am thinking of is similar to how windows does it
[04:54] <dabaR> bob832: cause you are not asking for a browser address bar, but a path bar rather
[04:54] <dabaR> instead of the little bubbles.
[04:54] <bob832> path bar, yes
[04:55] <Terminus> bob832, use ctrl+l
[04:55] <dabaR> bob832: Apps>Sys TOols>COnf edit, let me know when you get lost,,,
[04:55] <nickrud> Terminus, a nice trick
[04:55] <dabaR> bob832: try what he says, does it work?
[04:56] <mrkris> tritium, reconfiguring only allows one display, any idea how to do all
[04:56] <Terminus> hehe. i was looking for it before but i didn't try to actually tweak gconf like dabaR is suggesting.
[04:56] <bob832> it changed it to a path bar. . .but when i closed the window and reopened it, it was back to how it was before
[04:56] <nickrud> clt alt esc, clt l , nice
[04:57] <dabaR> Terminus: oh, wow, good.
[04:57] <Terminus> bob832, yeah... that's only temporary. if you want it permanent, do as dabar says.
[04:57] <khermans> bob832, you can keep the bar as a setting in gconf i believe
[04:57] <varsendagger> can i use xmms alone to play cd's?
[04:57] <brodel> If I just wanted to make a PC that was JUST for firefox, Would doing a "server" install and then adding XFCE4 core and then firefox be the way to go?
[04:57] <StDellis> how do I install snes9x or whatever once I have downloaded it from synaptic
[04:57] <blanky> wait a minute, in my apache (/var/www) folder I cant add anything cause I'm not root :'(
[04:57] <tritium> mrkris, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand, I'd say
[04:57] <dooglus> what package can provide port-forwarding?
[04:57] <dabaR> well, its under Apps>Nautilus>Prefs the always use locatin bar option.
[04:57] <khermans> blanky, just use sudo -s
[04:58] <Terminus> bob832, fire up gconf. it's in apps -> nautilus -> preferences.
[04:58] <mrkris> tritium, yeah, that's a pain, as i can barely remember how to do so, but ok :)
[04:58] <dooglus> StDellis: synaptic downloads and installs.  you don't need to do anything
[04:58] <tritium> mrkris, what type of video chipset?
[04:58] <Terminus> bob832, under always_use_location_entry.
[04:58] <dooglus> khermans: suggest 'sudo -i' instead.  it's a little safer
[04:58] <mrkris> 2 nvidia and 1 ati
[04:58] <khermans> dooglus, why?
[04:58] <bob832> ah i see
[04:58] <ccc_> hmmm... are multimedia buttons on the keyboard which Xev doesn't recognise unusable/dead, or is there a way to map them?
[04:58] <John_Dunbar> This is how i turn my internet on right now.."dhclient3 etho"..how do i make it stay on at startup?
[04:58] <dooglus> khermans: because it gives you the root environment.  root's PATH, HOME, etc.
[04:58] <bob832> yep that did it
[04:58] <StDellis> dooglus how do I play snes9-x cause its not under applications
[04:58] <dabaR> dooglus: ipmasq perhaps
[04:59] <pegasus> i am angry that my kiax keeps gettign installed by ubuntu
[04:59] <tritium> mrkris, /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README (or something like that) contains info on configuring nvidia TwinView, etc.
[04:59] <khermans> dooglus, why is that safer?
[04:59] <blanky> whats the difference between sudo -s and sudo
[04:59] <mrkris> thnx :)
[04:59] <khermans> pegasus, hey dude whats up/
[04:59] <bob832> thanks Terminus, dabaR, khermans
[04:59] <dabaR> just read man sudo
[04:59] <bimberi> mrkris: or if you've got (or can find) an xorg.conf that worked for you... (just a thought)
[04:59] <mrkris> yeah :)
[04:59] <khermans> blanky, sudo -s drops you into the shell -- sudo without -s waits for an immediate command
[05:00] <varsendagger> can i use xmms to listen to cd's?
[05:00] <tritium> varsendagger, yes, there is an input plugin for it
[05:00] <khermans> bob832, i read it -- dont see why it is safer
[05:00] <StDellis> once I have downloaded and installed snes-9x or whatever how do I play it?
[05:00] <dooglus> khermans: suppose someone has compromised your user account but not root.  they've put a trojan 'ls' in ~youruser/bin and added ~youruser/bin to your PATH.  you "sudo -s" and then "ls" and you're screwed.  on the other hand, you "sudo -i" and then "ls" and you're fine.
[05:00] <Terminus> John_Dunbar, edit your /etc/network/interfaces and add iface eth0 inet dhcp \n auto eth0. \n = newline
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  you need some SNES roms.
[05:00] <StDellis> dr_willis I think it came with some
[05:01] <omnid> So I have a .RPM file I do not know how to install.
[05:01] <omnid> It's drivers to my sound card.
[05:01] <omnid> I'm trying that first.
[05:01] <lightbright> tritium: how do I update the kernel from 2.6.12-9-386 >
[05:01] <lightbright> ?
[05:01] <varsendagger> StDellis, probably not
[05:01] <nicholas_paul> Q: I have a network here, but this computer aint showing up on it. Should i edit more than smb.conf, or is that all there is it it?
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  perhaps. never noticed. :P  just select file, in the menus and load the roms.
[05:01] <tritium> lightbright, sudo apt-get install linux-686
[05:01] <varsendagger> hey there shold be a ubot alien command
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> StDellis,  it may of come with a demo/pd rom or 2.
[05:01] <dooglus> StDellis: run "snes9x" from a terminal prompt
[05:01] <xhaker_> hey.. how do i disable Xscreensaver startup ?
[05:01] <khermans> dooglus, imagine this -- they compromise your account, which has full admin privileges in /etc/sudoers
[05:02] <khermans> dooglus, game is already over!
[05:02] <varsendagger> omnid you need alien
[05:02] <kelley> hello
[05:02] <khermans> bob832, see my comment above
[05:02] <varsendagger> you should be able to apt-get it
[05:02] <lightbright> tritium: after that is installed, do I reboot and its made available in grub menu?
[05:02] <dooglus> khermans: ok, they don't get your password - but they get to install some files as you...
[05:02] <tritium> lightbright, yep :)
[05:02] <runelind> so I can't seem to be able to apt-get wpa supplicant
[05:02] <runelind> I have the universe repository I thought
[05:02] <xhaker_> i mean.. the "daemon"..
[05:02] <runelind> and I did apt-get update
[05:02] <khermans> dooglus, who needs your password?
[05:02] <dooglus> khermans: sudo does
[05:02] <nicholas_paul> Shouldnt i just add 'workgroup = home' ?
[05:02] <khermans> is you have full rights in sudoers?
[05:02] <tritium> runedude, you're not using the right name.  apt-cache search supplicant, and you'll see the proper package name
[05:03] <omnid> !tell omnid about rpm
[05:03] <xhaker_> it's being launched where?
[05:03] <omnid> Oops sorry
[05:03] <dooglus> khermans: when you run 'sudo' it prompts for your password
[05:03] <blanky> can anyone tell me why my apache isn't working, it's at http://71.104.140.211/
[05:03] <nicholas_paul> damn.... this should be easy..
[05:03] <runelind> tritium: no hits
[05:03] <tritium> Hi [linner]  :)
[05:03] <lightbright> tritium: well thats interesting to learn that a person with a 386 Celeron 800 CPU can install a linux-686 kernel!  I didnt know that before
[05:03] <khermans> dooglus, there are obviousl ways around that ;-P
[05:03] <[linner] > ok.... someone please tell me what i do to make an app show up in the "applications" drop down
[05:03] <tritium> !info wpasupplicant
[05:03] <runelind> I must've added the repositories wrong
[05:03] <ubotu> wpasupplicant: (Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.4.5-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 149 kB, Installed size: 404 kB
[05:03] <[linner] > tritium, hey there :)
[05:03] <khermans> dooglus, but i see your point in that case
[05:03] <tritium> runelind, it's there in universe ;)
[05:04] <[linner] > i was just looking for you tritium  :)
[05:04] <varsendagger> omnid, you need to download alien and then alien -i yourpackage.rpm
[05:04] <runelind> yeah I know
[05:04] <[linner] > how are you?
[05:04] <mrkris> tritium, unable to find nvidia-glx :-x
[05:04] <runelind> I must've just added the repositories wrong
[05:04] <tritium> [linner] , oh, really?  I'm here.  What's up?
[05:04] <varsendagger> and by the way you can't talk to ubotu if you ar't registered
[05:04] <dabaR> varsendagger: download is not very descriptiveof the process
[05:04] <[linner] > i'm trying to figure out how to do three things
[05:04] <varsendagger> --i'd really like to register
[05:05] <nicholas_paul> come on, i must have done something reeeaaaly obvious wrong.
[05:05] <dabaR> varsendagger: and why do you not then?
[05:05] <nicholas_paul> Anyone?
[05:05] <dooglus> khermans: what are the ways around sudo needing a password?
[05:05] <varsendagger> sudo apt-get install
[05:05] <varsendagger> i don't know how
[05:05] <khermans> dooglus, hehe
[05:05] <varsendagger> dabaR,
[05:05] <dabaR> varsendagger: /msg nickserv help register
[05:05] <nicholas_paul> dooglus, i'm sure thats in the starter guide.
[05:05] <varsendagger> .... that did me no good
[05:05] <dooglus> khermans: no, really.
[05:05] <shadeofgrey> does anybodyneed help with something that HASNT been  helped yet?
[05:06] <runelind> tritium: yep, added repositories wrong :)
[05:06] <nicholas_paul> yes shadeofgrey
[05:06] <runelind> <--- newb
[05:06] <dabaR> varsendagger: really? /msg nickserv register<passwordHere>
[05:06] <John_Dunbar> Terminus..thank you
[05:06] <dooglus> shadeofgrey: I'm looking for a port-forwarding package.  know of one?
[05:06] <mrkris> shadeofgrey, trying to find xorgconfig :)
[05:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> doesn't nautilus have a tab view?  i no longer seem to have that option. :/
[05:06] <tritium> runelind, good deal
[05:06] <varsendagger> ahh
[05:06] <khermans> dooglus, export the PS4 env variable
[05:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone here know whether nautilus does have a tab view?
[05:06] <dooglus> khermans: that doesn't work any more
[05:06] <calderstrake> is there an updated guide for 5.1 yet?
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> BROKEN_LADDER,  i dont rember it ever having one
[05:06] <lightbright> tritium: after I install the 686, will the old kernel still be able to be used just in case?
[05:06] <shadeofgrey> okay...  i dont know very much about xorgconfig -- what are you trying yto accomplish?
[05:06] <nicholas_paul> calderstrake, there is, its under Yelp
[05:06] <N6REJ> I need some help changing my hardisk configurtion
[05:07] <calderstrake> which help?
[05:07] <khermans> dooglus, the thing is -- if you are local -- game is probably over
[05:07] <tritium> lightbright, yes
[05:07] <dooglus> khermans: and even if it hadn't been fixed, you still need the user's password.
[05:07] <shadeofgrey> nicholas paul:  ask me your question in a private window
[05:07] <varsendagger> what is a irc client for windows taht my wife can use, that's easy and pretty?
[05:07] <nicholas_paul> ok shade.
[05:07] <khermans> dooglus, especially if you have sudoers
[05:07] <tritium> calderstrake, yelp (gnome's help system) -- the little life-preserver icon
[05:07] <calderstrake> oh.. Yelp
[05:07] <calderstrake> ok
[05:07] <calderstrake> ill check it out now tks :D
[05:07] <bob832> khermans:  following the discussion between you and dooglus and it got me thinking. . . wouldn't it be possible to password lock certain folders so that the only way to access then would be to enter a password?
[05:07] <dabaR> varsendagger: _every_ time you log in, /msg nickserv identify <passwordHere>, then there are ways of getting your nick back if you need to: /msg nickserv recover nick pass, /msg nickserv release nick pass, /nick nick, then identify
[05:07] <lightbright> tritium: do I need to add the new one to the grub menu?
[05:08] <nicholas_paul> shadeofgrey, i cant seem to open a PM !!lol
[05:08] <shadeofgrey> nicholas_paul:  /query shadeofgrey
[05:08] <tritium> lightbright, no, it's done automatically
[05:08] <dooglus> bob832: I use encrpytion on some of my folders.  the only way to mount them is to give a password.  but once they're mounted, anyone can access them
[05:08] <lightbright> dabaR:  fyi, I would never mock you!  my 2nd day using Ubuntu and you have been a great help
[05:08] <dabaR> bob832: that is an ok design idea, however, a little late for Unix systems, which were designed about 20 years ago. man chmod is a command in a terminal you want to run.
[05:09] <lightbright> tritium: thats great
[05:09] <tritium> lightbright, yep :)
[05:09] <dabaR> lightbright: I thought you were making a joke.
[05:09] <lightbright> tritium: here goes: sudo apt-get install linux-686 :)
[05:09] <dabaR> lightbright: Im often here.
[05:09] <tritium> lightbright, enjoy!
[05:09] <dabaR> lightbright: why linux-686, is that a kernel?
[05:09] <BROKEN_LADDER> Dr_Willis that's so bizarre!  i'm SURE it had one
[05:09] <lightbright> dabaR:  no I was not, its just my personallity to be very cautious and get your opinion too as I value your viewpoint
[05:09] <[linner] > hey ya'll what's the syntax for turning off the clock at boot?
[05:10] <tritium> dabaR, I told him too.  It's a meta-package that will pull in the proper linux-restricted-modules, etc.
[05:10] <lightbright> dabaR: sorry?
[05:10] <N6REJ> I need help trying to get my partitions resized pelase
[05:10] <bob832> dooglus: ah i see. . . is it diffcult to install encrpytion ?
[05:10] <lightbright> dabaR: was it you telling me to complie mplayer from source yesterday?
[05:10] <dabaR> lightbright: well, that is why I suggested him in the first place, cause I knew he was not just saying it. That is why I asked khermans cause I was not sure he knew. Are you installing mplayer-686, or linux-686?
[05:10] <dabaR> lightbright: no.
[05:11] <tritium> N6REJ, you might try gparted or qtparted
[05:11] <lightbright> dabaR: both
[05:11] <lightbright> dabaR: no sorry,
[05:11] <lightbright> dabaR:  mplayer -586
[05:11] <lightbright> dabaR:  mplayer -586 and linux-686
[05:11] <lightbright> there is a mplayer-686?
[05:11] <N6REJ> tritium: I did that from live cd, and it helped, as the partition is now shrunk very small.  But now I need to add several partitions so I can move things.
[05:11] <dabaR> lightbright: its a transitional package on this system...not sure what it installs, I could try, I guess.
[05:12] <dooglus> bob832: it wasn't too hard, no, but a little messy
[05:12] <tritium> N6REJ, you can't add partitions with it?
[05:12] <N6REJ> tritium: do Ineed to run it agian from the server itself?
[05:12] <N6REJ> tritium: nope, won't let me.
[05:12] <lightbright> tritium: im installing mplayer-586 atm and then installing linix-686!  is that what I should do or should I install mplayer 686?
[05:12] <tritium> N6REJ, I've not used it
[05:12] <lightbright> dabaR: ok
[05:12] <N6REJ> tritium: Its supposed to but...............
[05:12] <bob832> dooglus:  i may look into someday, when i get a better handle of linux...lol
[05:12] <dooglus> bob832: there's a command 'cryptsetup' which I use
[05:12] <dabaR> tritium: can you apt build-src or whatever the command is, for a package that is not in your package list at all?
[05:12] <N6REJ> tritium: let me go try from the server itself. brb
[05:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there a way to add a "switch user" button to the panel?
[05:12] <nicholas_paul> shadeofgrey, i posted. hope you can help :)
[05:13] <tritium> lightbright, do exactly as you said :)
[05:13] <calderstrake> ok guys... another quick question.. how do i change directory to the 'home' directory?
[05:13] <dooglus> calderstrake: "cd"
[05:13] <nicholas_paul> calderstrake, in what, terminal?
[05:13] <tritium> dabaR, no, sure can't
[05:13] <lightbright> tritium: ok mplayer 586 is nearly installed and then I will ijnstall linux-686 :)
[05:13] <khermans> calderstrake, cd
[05:13] <nicholas_paul> calderstrake, try cd /home/
[05:13] <calderstrake> i know cd...
[05:13] <nicholas_paul> gotcha.
[05:13] <tritium> lightbright, good deal
[05:13] <dabaR> tritium: how about a v package in aptitude? being a virtual one just in case you dont know...
[05:13] <dooglus> nicholas_paul: /home isn't anyone's home directory.
[05:13] <lightbright> tritium: are you a ubuntu developer?
[05:13] <nicholas_paul> thats right dooglus.
[05:13] <bimberi> lightbright: fyi, mplayer-686 is a "Dummy package to upgrade to the new package mplayer-586" :)
[05:14] <lightbright> bimberi: ah ok :)
[05:14] <bob832> cd ~ takes you back to the home directory too
[05:14] <nicholas_paul> dooglus its the only home directory.
[05:14] <dabaR> lightbright: an ubuntu, thats how you pronounce it, oohbuntu
[05:14] <bob832> see i do know SOMETHING about linux . . . lol
[05:14] <tritium> lightbright, nope
[05:14] <dabaR> lightbright: he's just mike.
[05:15] <bimberi> tritium is (yet another) ubunut :)
[05:15] <tritium> lightbright, I occasionally work on universe packages
[05:15] <tritium> bimberi, :)
[05:15] <lightbright> tritium: cool :)
[05:15] <lightbright> dabaR: ok :)
[05:15] <paxmaster> is there a gui for Ldap
[05:16] <dabaR> bob832: so does cd<enter>
[05:16] <lightbright> after installing mplayer-586, do I need to install w32codecs libdvdcss !  it said it recommends it
[05:16] <dabaR> bob832: ~ is more for path specification replacement.
[05:16] <dabaR> lightbright: do you want to is a better question...
[05:16] <dooglus> lightbright: if you don't, you'll be limited in the typed of stuff you can play
[05:17] <bob832> dabaR: oh
[05:17] <dabaR> dooglus: I wanna play a guitar.
[05:17] <lightbright> dooglus: ok anything else I need also?
[05:17] <lightbright> dabaR: not sure if I need them
[05:17] <dooglus> lightbright: I don't think so
[05:17] <paxmaster> Is there a gui for LDAP Server
[05:18] <lightbright> oki doki
[05:18] <dabaR> lightbright: need for what? w32codecs is for wmv and wma files, and libdvdcss is for dvd encription, and needs to be gotten from an unofficial repo.
[05:18] <BlueEagle> paxmaster: webmin might help you.
[05:18] <dooglus> bob832: just "cd" will take you home.  and "cd ~fred" will take you to fred's home
[05:18] <ShizKnight> how u install crap on ubuntu
[05:18] <dabaR> dooglus: nice
[05:18] <dooglus> ShizKnight: "sudo apt-get install crap"
[05:18] <NoUse> paxmaster you can search on http://packages.ubuntu.com I've heard of luma too
[05:18] <dabaR> dooglus: lol
[05:18] <drcode> hi all
[05:18] <tim__> hi all
[05:18] <khermans> Anyone have suggestions for setting up a small lab with some old 233 machines for school?  They want all their data to be availabale from any machine they sit down on in the lab, but i dont hink I want the hassel of managing a whole LDAP config
[05:18] <bimberi> ShizKnight: or, sudo aptitude install crap
[05:18] <lightbright> dabaR: ah ok, i wanted to play DVD and mpeg and vob files
[05:18] <paxmaster> thx i will try that
[05:18] <dabaR> BROKEN_LADDER: did you ask ubotu yet?
[05:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> how are the default gnome settings defined on a new user, since there's nothing in /etc/skel telling gnome to have that atrocious ubuntu brown theme?
[05:19] <bob832> so would it be safe to say the ~ is a quick way to get to someone's home folder - other than cd /home/fred?
[05:19] <dabaR> lightbright: have you installed mpeg support? you need to read restricted from ubotu.
[05:19] <khermans> Anyone tried Edubuntu?
[05:19] <drcode> what recommand mail server ?
[05:19] <lightbright> bimberi: is it better to use apt-get install or aptitude install ?
[05:19] <lightbright> dabaR: ok
[05:19] <grace_> hey there can any one help to get w32codec installed.
[05:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> !libdvdcss
[05:19] <ubotu> I don't know, BROKEN_LADDER
[05:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> he doesn't know
[05:19] <dabaR> drcode: what recommand mail server?
[05:19] <drcode> yes
[05:19] <khermans> lightbright, aptitude
[05:19] <grace_> im on AM64 edubuntu and added the repositories but
[05:19] <dabaR> ubotu: tell grace_ about w32codecs
[05:19] <lightbright> tritium: why you recommend aptitude over apt-get?
[05:19] <nicholas_paul> paxmaster, try this - http://www.linuxlinks.com/Web/Networking/LDAP/index.shtml
[05:20] <BlueEagle> drcode: I recomend you no NOT run a mail server unless you really, really, really need to.
[05:20] <lightbright> khermans: any reason?
[05:20] <tim__> what's a good app to convert ogg to mp3?
[05:20] <bimberi> lightbright: looks like i'd better say aptitude :P
[05:20] <nicholas_paul> shadeofgrey, did you get my pm?
[05:20] <BlueEagle> s/ no / do /
[05:20] <dabaR> lightbright: it has more features.
[05:20] <lightbright> bimberi: hehe ;)
[05:20] <dooglus> bob832: ~ is expanded by the bash shell.  try "echo ~" and "echo ~root" in the terminal.  the "cd" command doesn't know what ~ means, as you can see if you "cd '~'"
[05:20] <tritium> lightbright, is has some nice features that can help prevent orphaned packages, for one thing
[05:20] <lightbright> dabaR: ok ill use aptitude from now on :)
[05:20] <grace_> apt-get and aptitude both claim it is unfound when I try to search for it or directly install it
[05:20] <khermans> lightbright, i think it is much nicer
[05:20] <drcode> k
[05:20] <lightbright> tritium: l use aptitude from now on :)
[05:20] <lightbright> khermans: ok
[05:20] <dooglus> bob832: the single quotes tell bash not to replace ~ with /home/bob832, so cd sees the ~
[05:20] <tritium> lightbright, rock on!  (if you prefer gui, there's always synaptic)
[05:20] <shadeofgrey> nicholas_paul:  nope.  wht chat programm are you using anyway?
[05:20] <pegasus> i have both mplayer and xone installed and i can get either to play .wmv  what am i missing
[05:21] <drcode> i wanted some easy mail server smaill IMAP/SMTP
[05:21] <nicholas_paul> shadeofgrey, xchat.
[05:21] <drcode> and web
[05:21] <dooglus> bob832: you can make a directory called '~' if you like:  "cd '~'" - but it's a bit silly to do so
[05:21] <shadeofgrey> nicholas_paul:  if its anything OTHER than xchat, then apt-get install xchat and come back
[05:21] <drcode> web mail
[05:21] <khermans> pegasus, dude try installing vc
[05:21] <khermans> vlc
[05:21] <nicholas_paul> oops, ok shadeofgrey
[05:21] <tritium> nicholas_paul, xchat is installed by default
[05:21] <grace_> i tried getting it from seveas repository but i think it is not listed for the amd64 kernel so it is not finding it
[05:21] <bimberi> lightbright: when you install "crap", sometimes other packages come in with it.  Aptitude is better at remembering what those packages were so that it can uninstall them if you ever uninstall "crap"
[05:21] <pupil> I can't get flash to work properly,. at this site http://www.bmw.ca
[05:21] <pegasus> khermans i just did that you evil hacker
[05:21] <bob832> dooglus:  ok
[05:22] <bimberi> lightbright: and i only use "crap" because it was topical :)
[05:22] <dabaR> lightbright: synaptic or aptitude will tell you whether a package is installed, cause they are user front ends to apt-*
[05:22] <khermans> pegasus, if you want to use wmv -- try w32codecs
[05:22] <pupil> http://bmw.ca
[05:22] <tim__> is there an app to rip music from cd into mp3 format?
[05:22] <nicholas_paul> tritium yea yea i got Xchat...
[05:22] <khermans> pegasus, i resent that statement!  i have never "hacked" into any box that wasnt mine
[05:22] <dabaR> pupil: have you installed flash?
[05:22] <grace_> khermans, do you know where I can get w32codecs for amd64
[05:22] <tritium> nicholas_paul, ok
[05:22] <pupil> dabaR, I thought I did
[05:22] <dabaR> pupil: what package?
[05:23] <pupil> dabaR, from macromedia's site
[05:23] <crimson> hello, can you help me?    http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/432744
[05:23] <calderstrake> tks for the help so far, things are working smoothly now :)
[05:23] <khermans> grace_, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76882.html
[05:23] <pupil> dabaR, package was from macromedia
[05:23] <NoUse> !tell pupil about flash
[05:24] <bob832> well, i'm off for the night, cya all in the morning
[05:24] <khermans> later bob
[05:24] <nicholas_paul> l8r
[05:24] <tritium> good night, bob832
[05:24] <threeseas> hello
[05:24] <lightbright> khermans: how do you install w32codecs?
[05:24] <misfit_toy>  hello threeseas
[05:24] <lightbright> bimberi:  heeheok ;)
[05:24] <lightbright> dabaR: got it, thanks
[05:25] <shadeofgrey> okay somebody needs to help me as soon as i get back from securing a frosty beverage
[05:25] <tritium> !w32codecs
[05:25] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil. One possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[05:25] <misfit_toy> shadeofgrey, depends on the alcohol content ;p
[05:25] <threeseas> well after removing powernowd from my system I still get lockups and monitor not comming back up after long periods of inactivitry
[05:25] <dabaR> pupil: nono, you install a package. you can either read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or install flashplayer-mozilla or flashplugin-nonfree. Flash is a ad web technology just to let you know, and most even firewalls for windows know this.
[05:25] <shadeofgrey> i vcant get the ftp.nerrim.net line in my sources.list file to work right...  damnit
[05:25] <khermans> lightbright, i used the marillat repositiroes
[05:25] <pegasus> khermans what about that apache hack
[05:25] <khermans> pegasus, my 0-day!?!
[05:25] <shadeofgrey> and alli want to do is friggin watch the news in a Firefox window
[05:26] <calderstrake> ok.. after i run the dpkg on the Sun Java... do i do anything else or is it fully installed now?
[05:26] <shadeofgrey> thats not asking toomuch
[05:26] <dabaR> khermans: we recommend w32codecs from ubotu for some reason, and he will tell you about it.
[05:26] <tim__> why when I try to install Nvidia driver it does not work? keep having to copy backup file into xconfig???
[05:26] <Terminus> calderstrake, type about:plugins in firefox if you want to check.
[05:26] <jayr> hello... I need some help figure out whats up with blender on my freshly installed ubuntu.
[05:26] <tritium> tim__, are you installing the ubuntu nvidia packages?
[05:26] <tritium> !tell tim__ about nvidia
[05:27] <lightbright> does rootkithunter work ok under breeze?
[05:27] <calderstrake> ok thanks.. and how do i make my text red to you? is that a whisper or something?
[05:27] <tim__> yes... from the ubuntu package
[05:27] <pegasus> khermans yaha i think i am going to take that new chick from ligisticks and maby if i play my cards right I will be showing her my o face O O O
[05:27] <nicholas_paul> calderstrake, you just put someones name in the type. like this :)
[05:27] <nicholas_paul> calderstrake, this shoudl be red too, but only to you .
[05:27] <lightbright> tim__: you talking to me?
[05:27] <tritium> pegasus, that's a bit offtopic, eh?
[05:27] <calderstrake> nicholas_paul, ok test
[05:28] <nicholas_paul> calderstrake, roger:)
[05:28] <lightbright> tritium: does rootkithunter work ok under breeze?
[05:28] <tritium> lightbright, sorry, no idea about that
[05:28] <khermans> pegasus, not really -- i just found out that the nainnnajjar guys has used Ubuntu
[05:28] <crimson> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/432744
[05:28] <Terminus> calderstrake, just type the name of the person you're referring to and if their client supports highlighting, it will.
[05:28] <calderstrake> nicholas_paul, this is a really nice way to stay focused on the chat, tks for all the help again
[05:28] <nicholas_paul> any time calderstrake
[05:28] <nicholas_paul> also, if you want to type someones name calderstrake , just type the first couple of letters and hit tab.
[05:28] <Terminus> oh... question was answered already. hehe
[05:29] <lightbright> tritium: http://www.rootkit.nl/articles/rootkit_hunter_faq.html
[05:29] <nicholas_paul> calderstrake, like 'n' 'i' 'c' TAB
[05:29] <lightbright> tritium: and how do I install clamscan please?
[05:29] <N6REJ> tritium: nope, no luck.  It won't let me :(
[05:29] <khermans> a good rootkit wont be detectale during runtime ;-P
[05:29] <pupil> dabaR, do I need to enable backports for the plugin?
[05:30] <pupil> dabaR, cause apt-get can't find it
[05:30] <tritium> lightbright, that's not in the repositories, so you'll have to install from source, or whatever
[05:30] <khermans> you might want to try a livecd that checks the differences between a known good kernel loaded and a possibly tainted kerne;
[05:30] <z3r0x> I tried to patch my kernel with --dry-run but there was a message -> Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n] ....what should I do?
[05:30] <blanky> where can I find apache config files httpd.conf or apache2.conf
[05:30] <tritium> sorry to hear that, N6REJ
[05:30] <khermans> z3r0x, i think if you day yes -- it will UNDO the old patch
[05:31] <jayr> in ubuntu, how do i figure out how much memory my video card has?
[05:31] <lightbright> tritium: yeah installing rootkithunter now!  seems like a great program
[05:31] <Aurora> in breezy's locked screen mode, on the window that asks for your password theres an icon of a guy, is there any way to change that graphic? i would have expected it to use my account icon or photo
[05:31] <nicholas_paul> blanky,  prob. in /etc/apache2
[05:31] <N6REJ> tritium: me 2.  does this mean the only way to fix this is going to be to wipe the drive and start over?
[05:31] <lightbright> tritium: is there any AV programs for Breeze?
[05:31] <khermans> blanky, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[05:31] <tritium> lightbright, there's a package called chkrootkit in ubuntu
[05:31] <bimberi> lightbright: there's also chkrootkit
[05:31] <blanky> thanks ! :)
[05:31] <tritium> lightbright, AV?  audio/video?
[05:31] <nicholas_paul> blanky i was right :) hehe
[05:31] <bimberi> tritium beat me to it :)
[05:32] <Ophiocus> !
[05:32] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Ophiocus
[05:32] <khermans> Aurora, what you dont like the black guy?
[05:32] <z3r0x> khermans, hm... I'll backup the old file....how can I rebuild the kernel?
[05:32] <tritium> N6REJ, no, you can use fdisk, right?
[05:32] <khermans> Aurora, he reminds me of Chef
[05:32] <Aurora> he's black?
[05:32] <Ophiocus> my /.dmrc file is giving me a problem if i set a new user will that stop? also i used to be hable to view the windows computers in my lan but now i cant
[05:32] <tritium> bimberi, :)
[05:32] <N6REJ> Ophiocus: can you help me get my partitions reset?
[05:32] <bimberi> lightbright: there's clamav
[05:32] <N6REJ> tritium: yeah I can if I do it from live cd.
[05:32] <Aurora> ooh... so he is
[05:32] <Aurora> i didn't notice
[05:32] <omnid> What's this mean? "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process"
[05:32] <Aurora> yeah i dun like
[05:33] <tritium> N6REJ, you should be able to
[05:33] <blanky> okay, #apache isnt helping, when I go to http://localhost it detects my files in www folder, but when I go to http://71.104.140.211 (my ip) it doesnt work :( anyone can help?
[05:33] <N6REJ> tritium: ok, but it tells me its going to lose all data :S
[05:33] <Aurora> khermans, its an african distro...
[05:33] <bimberi> lightbright: take note of how tritium didn't immediately think of AntiVirus for AV.  This is linux! :)
[05:33] <khermans> lol
[05:33] <tritium> N6REJ, what tells you this?
[05:33] <mindless_> hey any of you guys ever tried to share a internet connection, between 2 ubuntu computers? ( with out a router ie: cross over cable )
[05:33] <lightbright> bimberi: yeah :)
[05:33] <paxmaster> nicholas_paul: thx for the link you give me
[05:33] <N6REJ> tritium: qtparted
[05:33] <tritium> N6REJ, use fdisk
[05:34] <nicholas_paul> paxmaster, did you find something in there?
[05:34] <N6REJ> tritium: k, brb
[05:34] <tritium> lightbright, oh, antivirus?  heh...
[05:34] <lightbright> hey everyone may I recommend a great program!  it works well on breeze I just installed it
[05:34] <lightbright> http://www.rootkit.nl/articles/rootkit_hunter_faq.html
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> mindless_,  how are you getting to the internet then?
[05:34] <haste> hey, ive got a wireless card, and i try installing the drivers for it, but it says the hardware isnt present.
[05:34] <tritium> bimberi, good catch
[05:34] <lightbright> tritium: yeah
[05:34] <bimberi> tritium: ;)
[05:34] <Aurora> breezy is so nice :)
[05:34] <lightbright> tritium: you recommend clam?
[05:34] <khermans> blanky, are you blocking that port?
[05:34] <Aurora> hibernation actually works for me! :)
[05:34] <paxmaster> i am still looking at it, it seem interesting
[05:34] <Ophiocus> mindless_, one of your 2 comps got to have either 2 lan cards or an internal/usb modem
[05:34] <nicholas_paul> haste - wow.. thats a pretty broad question.
[05:34] <khermans> blanky, or does your router NAT ?
[05:34] <tritium> lightbright, I have never used AV (no need)
[05:34] <nicholas_paul> haste, have you found a wiki on it?
[05:34] <cafuego> mindless_: ep. And via firewire too
[05:35] <mindless_> dr_willis, the primary computer is connected too a DSL modem, then the secondary is connected to the primary via Cross over cable....
[05:35] <haste> nicholas_paul, actually, i just rebooted and its finally coming up in lspci... brb
[05:35] <jayr> is it even possible to get help here?
[05:35] <nicholas_paul> haste woohoo! :)
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> mindless_,  so you got 2 network cards in PC #1.. one of which is attacthec to the DSL. Other is to the pc #2
[05:35] <haste> ;P
[05:35] <mindless_> the network hardware is fine, ive had it set up before on diffrent os's
[05:35] <lightbright> tritium: but isnt it good to check emails for virus in case I send one to a friend?
[05:35] <haste> yay!
[05:35] <nicholas_paul> jayr, yes it is. It depends what you want :) and if anyone can help.
[05:35] <jayr> ahh. thaks nicholas_paul
[05:35] <tritium> lightbright, if you want to, sure :)
[05:35] <mindless_> yea 2 network cards in the primary, 1 for internet the 2nd one to go to the secondary computer.
[05:36] <Aurora> lightbright, get used to it, its not going to happen
[05:36] <blanky> khermans: nope, I dont have any firewall running that I know of
[05:36] <lightbright> tritium: so there is not even 1 virus that can affect you on Ubuntu?
[05:36] <blanky> and my internet is obviously working cuase I'm here
[05:36] <khermans> blanky, router?
[05:36] <jayr> I just need to figure out how to run blender on ubuntu
[05:36] <lightbright> Aurora: never?
[05:36] <Aurora> theres probably hundreds of viruses
[05:36] <blanky> yeah I have a router
[05:36] <jayr> need/like to
[05:36] <cafuego> jayr: Install it and run it.
[05:36] <jayr> heh :D
[05:36] <Aurora> but the chances are so tiny that its insane to bother actually worrying about it
[05:36] <khermans> blanky, you need to forward port 80 on the router to your LAN IP
[05:36] <lightbright> Aurora: 100's? and you say we dont need a AV?  how come?
[05:36] <blanky> that's messed up, I cant believe apache ran easier on my windows than here >=O
[05:36] <jayr> did that portion of it
[05:36] <blanky> OH YEAH!
[05:36] <cafuego> jayr: (it will be in the Apps menu after install)
[05:36] <blanky> I REMEMBER
[05:36] <blanky> IM SO DUMB, THANKS KHERMANS!
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> mindless_,  so whats the problem? :P
[05:36] <lightbright> Aurora: ok
[05:36] <Ophiocus> mindless_, may i recomend you read this http://www.aboutdebian.com/proxy.htm
[05:36] <blanky> *big blanky hug to khermans*
[05:36] <jayr> get segmentation fault
[05:37] <nicholas_paul> wow i feel the love.
[05:37] <tritium> lightbright, nothing is perfect, of course, but linux has not had a virus problem
[05:37] <khermans> lol
[05:37] <jayr> tried  to compile
[05:37] <jayr> no luk
[05:37] <cafuego> jayr: Install it and and let us never speak of this again.
[05:37] <cafuego> s/Install/uninstall/
[05:37] <jayr> lol
[05:37] <nicholas_paul> well.. thanks lightbright  :!
[05:37] <mindless_> Willis, Well, i cant figure out how to share the internet from comp 1,
[05:37] <lightbright> tritium: excellent!  and spyware?  no spyware either?
[05:37] <nicholas_paul> hehe
[05:37] <Aurora> lightbright, think about it, to get a virus from an email in windows you do this: double click the attachment
[05:37] <mindless_> ophiocus, cool, ill read it, brb if i fail :D
[05:37] <jayr> I would really like that
[05:37] <Aurora> no spyware at all to my knowledge
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> mindless_,  'ip masquerading' or set up a proxy.
[05:37] <khermans> blanky, work?
[05:37] <lightbright> tritium: did you like the rootkithunter I sent you?
[05:37] <nicholas_paul> plus, someone would have to write a linux virus.
[05:37] <tritium> lightbright, we had someone claiming he had java spyware on his ubuntu install the other day...
[05:38] <lightbright> Aurora: did you see the rootkithunter?
[05:38] <lightbright> tritium: didnt mean that he actually did, right? :)
[05:38] <blanky> er...I dont think :(
[05:38] <jayr> I would love to not have to trouble shoot but with errors like this libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x24
[05:38] <tritium> lightbright, I don't know...
[05:38] <lightbright> Aurora: http://www.rootkit.nl/articles/rootkit_hunter_faq.html
[05:38] <blanky> I mean, I dont know how to forward it I forgot, I'm working on it
[05:38] <blanky> D-Link router
[05:38] <jayr> I do wonder if I just need to switch back to windows
[05:38] <lightbright> tritium: did you like the rootkithunter I sent you?
[05:38] <blanky> Virtual Server HTTP	192.168.0.100	TCP 80/80	always
[05:39] <blanky> apparently it's allowed
[05:39] <Aurora> but in linux to get a virus from an email you would need to save the file in to your home folder, open nautillus, right click, click properties, enter the permissions tab, enable the "executable" bit, okay out of it, and then open a terminal, login to root, navigate to your home folder, and execute the virus
[05:39] <tritium> lightbright, I just barely checked out the page
[05:39] <lightbright> Aurora: heheh ;)
[05:39] <cafuego> woo! /me pingfloods 192.168.0.100
[05:39] <Aurora> it would be pretty hard to not be doing all that intentionally!
[05:39] <[linner] > Aurora, now that's what i call security!
[05:39] <lightbright> tritium: it works well on breeze
[05:39] <khermans> blanky, log in, and you could also take the easy way out and set your local LAN host to be DMZ
[05:39] <dabaR> Aurora: nice, in theory, there are other ways to hack a system...
[05:39] <Ophiocus> Most times it are selfhiding toolkits <= sorry but i couldnt trust code from someone that writes like that
[05:39] <tritium> lightbright, okay...
[05:39] <haste> now to see if MarioKartDS works with linux wifi! ^_^
[05:39] <lightbright> tritium: there are apparently many rootkithunters on Linux
[05:40] <blanky> KHERMAN IT WORKS I WUB YOU!
[05:40] <cafuego> Aurora: You'd have to install wine as well, unless someone actually got around to writing a decent linux virus ;-)
[05:40] <blanky> *blanky hug again*
[05:40] <tritium> I guess...I've not used any, lightbright
[05:40] <ithiel_sleepiez> dabaR, I never said that
[05:40] <lightbright> Aurora: and it was a good point too ;)
[05:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> can anyone tell me some important files i should have to be able to compile apps?
[05:40] <jayr> I even tried to find a fresh copy of libGL
[05:40] <ithiel_sleepiez> ubotu quotes
[05:40] <ubotu> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/quotes
[05:40] <nicholas_paul> !compile
[05:40] <ubotu> I heard compile is tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand.  Also, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConfigureMakeMakeInstall.  Ask me about <compiling>
[05:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> that apparently didn't come in this LINUX DISTRIBUTION by default?
[05:40] <Siph0n> BROKEN_LADDER: Ubuntu
[05:40] <bimberi> BROKEN_LADDER: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[05:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> ?
[05:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> bimberi ah!  thanks.
[05:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> aptitude?
[05:40] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, not by default, no
[05:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium that was my point.
[05:41] <bimberi> BROKEN_LADDER: It's "Linux for Human Beings" :P
[05:41] <blanky> hey how can I set up a Domain Name with my IP, what nameservers do I put, oh wait, I first need a DNSD right?
[05:41] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, it's not needed by the average user
[05:41] <lightbright> the support for Ubuntu is oustanding if I may say :)
[05:41] <blanky> what package do I need for a domain name server
[05:41] <cafuego> ubotu: compile is s#tar -zxvf#Go and read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall. tar -zxvf#
[05:41] <ubotu> ...but compile is already something else...
[05:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium ??  uhhhh
[05:41] <cafuego> ubotu: compile =~ s#tar -zxvf#Go and read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall. tar -zxvf#
[05:41] <ubotu> cafuego: OK
[05:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium there are TONS of programs that need it.
[05:41] <cafuego> blah :-)
[05:41] <khermans> misfit_toy, makestickers.com
[05:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> misfit_toy surely they exist.  you could make your own custom one onine
[05:42] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, no, the average user (not developer) doesn't compile stuff
[05:42] <nicholas_paul> misfit_toy, i think they do! Dont they? on cafepress.com
[05:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium nonsense.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> ive  think ive yet to compile anything on ubuntu yet... :P
[05:42] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, no, usage statistics
[05:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium consider the OTR plugin for gaim.  consider the most recent versions of vorbis encoder.
[05:42] <lightbright> i vote tritium & bimberi & khermans for OPS :) because they are all very helpful and patient :)
[05:42] <nicholas_paul> misfit_toy, actually i think theres a link on ubuntu.com
[05:42] <Terminus> blanky, bind. you can always use the dns servers of your registrar though.
[05:42] <lightbright> and Aurora too :)
[05:42] <khermans> :-)
[05:42] <linuxgeek2> hi folks
[05:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium nonsense.  there are tons of programs that you'd have to compile because there aren't packages, or at least not recent ones, for them.
[05:42] <linuxgeek2> I am facing a problem
[05:42] <tritium> heh, thanks lightbright :)
[05:42] <blanky> what can I use to view WMV files in firefox, cause it isn't working with whatever is playing them right now :(
[05:42] <linuxgeek2> can anyone one help me
[05:43] <bimberi> thanks lightbright :)
[05:43] <linuxgeek2> sorry wrong channel
[05:43] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, nonsense
[05:43] <misfit_toy> nicholas_paul, must be a new one then, thanks, I'll take a look as soon as this encoding is finished, my cpu is at 99%
[05:43] <lightbright> and dabaR too :)
[05:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium the point is, it's a linux distribution, and a few mb of files on any modern machine (that surely has several free gb) is ridiculous.
[05:43] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, you're not describing things the average user needs to do
[05:43] <lightbright> nearly forgot dabaR
[05:43] <bimberi> tritium: you gave it away, i was going to say "one of us is, you have to guess which"
[05:43] <jedrick> need help when trying to install skype, got this output : "The following packages have unmet dependencies: skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2) but it is not installable E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)." anyone please
[05:43] <nicholas_paul> np misfit_toy
[05:43] <lightbright> :)
[05:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium the average user does too need those things!
[05:43] <tritium> bimberi, sorry :)
[05:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium the average user uses instant messaging.  the average user encodes music.
[05:43] <nicholas_paul> misfit_toy, v
[05:43] <bimberi> tritium: :)
[05:44] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, nope.  Now let's please not discuss this any more
[05:44] <nicholas_paul> misfit_toy, http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop/
[05:44] <misfit_toy> nicholas_paul, got it thx
[05:44] <nicholas_paul> :) cool
[05:44] <haste> is there a way to make a wifi card act as a router?
[05:44] <nicholas_paul> haste you need to 'share the connection'
[05:44] <blanky> what can I use to watch WMV movies embedded in HTML files (on a site)
[05:45] <N6REJ> tritium: nope, no go... won't let me make a new parition.  Apparently even though the size of the 1st parition is shrunk its somehow reserved?
[05:45] <bmrtin> mplayer firefox plugin
[05:45] <blanky> bmrtin: thanks!
[05:45] <tritium> N6REJ, no, that shouldn't be.  You're using fdisk?
[05:45] <N6REJ> tritium: either that or I have no idea what the heck I'm doing and thats a possiblity.
[05:45] <bimberi> jedrick: there are skype packages for breezy available at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl ...
[05:45] <khermans> haste, iwconfig eth1 mode master
[05:45] <N6REJ> tritium: I thought so...  i"m rebooting now into live cd... will try fdisk from console
[05:45] <tritium> N6REJ, good plan
[05:46] <omnid> okat what do I do to this RPM file
[05:46] <nicholas_paul> haste search for a wiki on sharing a connection. Theres a post on the forum too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76346
[05:46] <haste> khermans, my network card is eth0 and my wifi is wlan0 ...
[05:46] <bimberi> s/skype packages for breezy/breezy packages for skype/
[05:46] <haste> cool  thanks
[05:46] <jedrick> bimberi: ok i'll check it out
[05:46] <N6REJ> tritium: I'm gonna cry if I have to do a reinstall, this is on the server, and I've got everyting 99% correct!
[05:46] <khermans> haste, if your using a broadcom -- it may not be supported
[05:46] <nicholas_paul> np haste
[05:46] <haste> it aint broadcom
[05:47] <tritium> N6REJ, don't worry...I can't imagine you'll need to
[05:47] <blanky> if I have amd +2500, must I get mplayer-k6 or can I get i386
[05:47] <[linner] > with tritium's help of course (grin)
[05:47] <rowan> Groan, Having trouble watching DVDs, for some reason everything is jerky. I've followed the steps for enabling DMA on the Wiki, but its still no good.
[05:47] <tritium> :)
[05:48] <threeseas> Hmmm reading ubuntuforums.org I find to my lockup threads
[05:48] <threeseas> to many
[05:48] <khermans> Our LUG protested Steve Ballmer at a local Microsoft event at school --> v
[05:48] <khermans> http://www.dailycollegian.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/24/435c3d7011b9e?in_archive=1
[05:48] <tritium> lightbright, friendly new users like you make spending time on IRC worthwhile
[05:48] <khermans> video --> http://www.umasslug.org/lugfiles/umass_ballmer_2005.avi
[05:48] <dabaR> haste: so do you know how to share the connection?
[05:49] <tritium> (and there are _many_ friendly users in ubuntu, which is why I love this community)
[05:49] <misfit_toy> khermans, just sneak up behind Ballmer and whisper "google", he shits his pants every time.
[05:49] <khermans> misfit_toy, i wanted to ask him for a donation to our lug
[05:49] <[linner] > khermans, please talk about this stuff in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:49] <[linner] > tritium, yes there are!!!
[05:49] <khermans> [linner] , in the video we hand out Ubuntu cds
[05:49] <rob1> hmm has anyone else had problems burning dvds?
[05:49] <jedrick> bimberi: man i don't know how to do it
[05:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> does it make sense to use checkinstall when compiling from source?
[05:49] <dabaR> khermans: the topic explains it well...
[05:49] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, definitely
[05:50] <nicholas_paul> rob1 k3b works great
[05:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium cool.
[05:50] <bimberi> jedrick: ok, what's the problem
[05:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium i didn't know whether there might be something better
[05:50] <[linner] > khermans, that's great... but this channel is primarily for those who need help :)
[05:50] <lightbright> tritium: I created a script but it says i dont have permuission to run it, even when loged in using sudo -i. any ideas?
[05:50] <rob1> nicholas_paul, gnomebaker went thru the motions but did noting
[05:50] <Ophiocus> misfit_toy, smile you just got quoted
[05:50] <khermans> [linner] , hey i heped a lot!
[05:50] <rob1> s/noting/nothing
[05:50] <jedrick> when trying to install skype got the error "The following packages have unmet dependencies: skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2) but it is not installable E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)."
[05:50] <dabaR> khermans: umass, like the big umass?
[05:50] <nicholas_paul> rob1 k3b is way better :)
[05:50] <jedrick> what's that mean?
[05:50] <khermans> dabaR, yea
[05:50] <tito> lightbright: su to root then run it
[05:51] <[linner] > khermans, that's wonderful! :)  ......and........
[05:51] <tritium> no, tito
[05:51] <dabaR> khermans: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:51] <bimberi> jedrick: did you download the package from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl?
[05:51] <ecobuntu> optiplex?
[05:51] <lightbright> tito: i changed the permissions of file to 777 and it works now
[05:51] <tritium> lightbright, check that the script is +x
[05:51] <jedrick> no
[05:51] <jedrick> i don't know how
[05:51] <tito> kool
[05:52] <dabaR> khermans: wanna talk about it, or should I just read the article?
[05:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> how do i set my system to i686 instead of 386?
[05:52] <fletch33> hello all could someone possible tell me what would make gedit not allow me to edit my sources.list? thanks
[05:52] <Ophiocus> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/quotes?minid=24
[05:52] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, sudo aptitude install linux-686
[05:52] <nicholas_paul> fletch33,  use 'sudo' first
[05:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> for checkinstall/compile purposes
[05:52] <blanky> people at #debian are so mean :'(
[05:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium Linux brokenladder 2.6.12-9-686-smp #1 SMP Mon Oct 10 13:36:57 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:52] <fletch33> nicholas_paul, explain
[05:52] <mfinch> I am thinking about compiling a new kernel.  Does anyone recommend a specific web site for this?  I have seen pages in vanilla install and Debian specific.  Here is one of them: http://www.cyberciti.biz/nixcraft/vivek/blogger/2005/09/compiling-linux-kernel-26.html
[05:52] <dabaR> blanky: no, just straight forward.
[05:52] <misfit_toy> blanky, I hear that a lot, never been there
[05:52] <nicholas_paul> fletch33, type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:52] <lightbright> whgen I use aptitude, it says: .aptitude/config - Unable to open %s for writing (13 Permission denied)
[05:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> mfinch i'm curious why you're wanting to compile your own?
[05:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> mfinch i'm curious why you're wanting to compile your own.
[05:53] <tritium> mfinch, use kernel-package (the make-kpkg command)
[05:53] <khermans> dabaR, the article is good -- video is cool too -- but i dont want to get into trouble here from linner!
[05:53] <dabaR> mfinch: ya install the 2.6 kernel on your breezy...:-/
[05:53] <fletch33> nicholas_paul,  thank you very much
[05:53] <bimberi> jedrick: from that webpage, click on See Contents next to "all", scroll down to Skype and download skype deb file
[05:53] <dabaR> khermans: so join that channel.
[05:53] <nicholas_paul> anytime fletch33
[05:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium i have the right kernel.  but checkinstall fails to install anything under except for as i386
[05:53] <runelind> I mounted a network share in gnome
[05:53] <N6REJ> tritium: I don't seem to be able to access /dev/hda from terminal :(
[05:53] <runelind> and I tried double clicking on a video file
[05:53] <runelind> and it said unable to play the video file
[05:53] <[linner] > dabaR, thank you
[05:53] <jedrick> bimberi: ok i'll look for it
[05:53] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, what are you compiling?
[05:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> runelind speaking of which, i'd _kill_ to know how to change file associations in gnome.
[05:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium libotr
[05:54] <mfinch> I see the lines above "sudo aptitude install linux-686".  What version of kernel is installed by default (a 386 I think)?
[05:54] <tritium> N6REJ, from the LiveCD?
[05:54] <bimberi> jedrick: ... save it to disk, then "dpkg -i" it
[05:54] <N6REJ> tritium: yep
[05:54] <runelind> it says I might need to install the corresponding plugins
[05:54] <crimsun> mfinch: 386
[05:54] <tritium> mfinch, 386
[05:54] <blanky> Okay, I was just asking if debian came with more server packages out of the box than ubuntu, and they started getting all pissed at me for comparing them both and they started saying how debian has a larger repository and that I should ask ubuntu questions elsewhere, etc.
[05:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium if i set it as follows, 7 -  Architecture: [ i586 ] , then it fails.
[05:54] <runelind> if I mount the network drive via cli, it works just fine
[05:54] <tritium> N6REJ, you're using sudo?
[05:54] <N6REJ> blanky: debian group is nasty
[05:54] <ecobuntu> blanky: folks at #debian are a little bitter
[05:54] <lightbright> I wrote a sxript to run aptitude update followed by aptitude upgrade. is that good to run daily?
[05:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> ecobuntu lol
[05:54] <ecobuntu> debian is a great distro though
[05:54] <runelind> so what's the missing step?
[05:54] <blanky> yeah :'(, that's why I love ubuntu, everyone shares the luv!
[05:54] <BROKEN_LADDER> ubuntu made debian hip.
[05:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> but ugly (brown)
[05:55] <N6REJ> tritium: uh.. well, I would think so, it never asked.  let me see if I can ctrl-f2
[05:55] <ecobuntu> i think debian was hip before ubuntu
[05:55] <mfinch> Could someone tell me what "sudo aptitude install linux-686" will do?  I am assuming this will install an i686 kernel?
[05:55] <runelind> BROKEN_LADDER: that's asimple theme change away
[05:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> ecobuntu it was practical and conservative.
[05:55] <tritium> mfinch, that's right
[05:55] <phucker> Im getting this error when i sudo modprobe ndiswrapper: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[05:55] <phucker> ; does anyone know what im doing wrong?
[05:55] <ecobuntu> debian is rad because it's completely controlled by developers
[05:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> runelind yeah.  but i'd love to find a way to change the defaults.  no one seems to know how.
[05:55] <ecobuntu> there is no company in control of it
[05:55] <jedrick> bimberi: do you use skype?
[05:55] <Mr_Milenko> Does ubuntu have "drivers" for the FatX filesystem?
[05:55] <blanky> er, I wasnt comparing them...
[05:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> runelind except to put stuff in /etc/skel
[05:55] <wastrel> is it possible to pull images out of PDF files?
[05:56] <N6REJ> tritium: no sudo needed... it puts you right in as "ubuntu@ubuntu"
[05:56] <bimberi> jedrick: no, not yet, otherwise i'd offer to test :)
[05:56] <nicholas_paul> wastrel if you open them in gimp yes
[05:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone here have a sip phone?
[05:56] <mfinch> will I need to modify grub after the kernel is installed?  Will it be my default?
[05:56] <tritium> N6REJ, you should be able to use fdisk then
[05:56] <runelind> I'd love to be able to play video files that are on a network drive without mounting from the CLI :)
[05:56] <ecobuntu> blanky: i know...and the guys at #debian are dicks anyways...don't let them speak for the debian community (which ubuntu users are a part of)
[05:56] <econobuntu> hey ecobuntu, can I be your bro?
[05:56] <tritium> mfinch, it'll do it for you automatically
[05:56] <N6REJ> tritium: yeah, I can execute fdisk but there is no /dev/hda !
[05:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium you have any idea how to change checkinstall to use 686
[05:56] <ecobuntu> sure
[05:56] <misfit_toy> wastrel, evince may do that, not sure at the moment
[05:56] <tritium> ecobuntu, let's not call anybody names please
[05:56] <ecobuntu> ok
[05:56] <econobuntu> ;)
[05:56] <TMG> .
[05:56] <tritium> cool
[05:56] <pegasus> BROKEN_LADDER K i installed aix soft phone today
[05:56] <jedrick> bimberi: is it true that it's for free?, and can it call local landline numbers
[05:57] <pegasus> jedrick what is for free
[05:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus so do you have a sip address?
[05:57] <jedrick> pegasus: skype
[05:57] <bimberi> jedrick: yes it is, calls to landlines cost though
[05:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus get an ENUM number for your sip address, and i'll give you a test ringie dingie :)
[05:57] <pegasus> BROKEN_LADDER i have a did
[05:57] <pornobuntu> er...wrong name
[05:57] <jedrick> dam
[05:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus you mean a PSTN to sip number?
[05:58] <drcode> any one can recommand me light mail server with IMAP/SMTP/WEB MAIL support?
[05:58] <econobuntu> hey guys, who wants ubuntu for free!
[05:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus i'm talking about an ENUM number, for ip-to-ip
[05:58] <econobuntu> <---
[05:58] <ecobuntu> have you guys heard about the new distribution being built on opensolaris based on ubuntu?
[05:58] <ecobuntu> it's pretty sweet
[05:58] <N6REJ> drcode: dovecot
[05:58] <wastrel> nicholas_paul, thx that works 100%
[05:58] <misfit_toy> drcode, dovecot
[05:58] <pegasus> BROKEN_LADDER i have not set that up yet
[05:58] <runelind> ohohohoh
[05:58] <wastrel> misfit_toy, gimp :] 
[05:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> you guys need to go to enum2go.com and/or e164.org and get enum numbers for your sip addresses.
[05:58] <econobuntu> opensolaris? openbsd? openlinux? openwindows?
[05:58] <runelind> this is still messed up
[05:58] <ecobuntu> openwindows?
[05:58] <nicholas_paul> no prob wastrel !!!
[05:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus well, check out enum2go.com and/or e164.org
[05:58] <ecobuntu> openlinux?
[05:58] <drcode> thanx
[05:58] <jedrick> how can i view webcam on gaim-vv is it possible?
[05:58] <drcode> I Will check it
[05:58] <pegasus> no rush
[05:58] <runelind> when mounting my mac home directory through smb I still cant access symlinked folders
[05:59] <mfinch> Thanks for the info.  I think I am going to follow the instructions here: http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/breezy/ for updating kernel
[05:59] <ecobuntu> jedrick: you should be able to
[05:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus once you have an enum number, set up sipbroker.com as your proxy server (the secondary server) and then it wil automatically do enum lookups for you, so you can call anyone else with an enum number referring to his sip address.
[05:59] <misfit_toy> jedrick, I think gaim-vv is being put back into the main gaim project, you might want to wait a bit.
[05:59] <tritium> runelind, I believe that's a limitation of SMB
[05:59] <jedrick> ecobuntu: i can't, when i view other's webcam the parrot image appears
[05:59] <TMG> anyone here goos with troublshooting ndiswrapper?
[05:59] <TMG> good*
[05:59] <drcode> dovcot also support web mail?
[05:59] <runelind> tritium: it happens with cifs most of the time too
[05:59] <pupil> In mozilla,. I need to switch the user agent, how do do this?
[05:59] <ecobuntu> jedrick: strange...but misfit_toy is right about gaim
[05:59] <N6REJ> drcode yep.. full imap support
[05:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus bimberi check out the first enum number on my site, and click on it.  http://brokenladder.com/index.php?page=contact
[06:00] <drcode> thnx
[06:00] <N6REJ> drcode yw
[06:00] <pupil> In mozilla,. I need to switch the user agent, how do do this?
[06:00] <jedrick> ecobuntu: is there any other way?
[06:00] <pupil> BROKEN_LADDER, In mozilla,. I need to switch the user agent, how do do this?
[06:00] <ecobuntu> jedrick: i am not familiar with the plugin.  I use gaim and I know you can use that plugin to get video but I'm not sure how...I'm sorry
[06:01] <econobuntu> okay guys, when you go here http://71.104.140.211/ and you click the snitzhackfinal.wmv, what application plays the file?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> pupil,  i think theres an extension or 2 that make it easy.
[06:01] <ecobuntu> jedrick: have you tried ubuntuforums.org or linuxquestions.org and post your question there?
[06:01] <pupil> Dr_Willis, umm,. you happen to know what its called?
[06:01] <jedrick> ecobuntu: can you view webcam on your gaim?
[06:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> pupil get a user agent switcher plugin from plugins.mozilla.org
[06:01] <ecobuntu> jedrick: i don't have the plugin
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> pupil,  nope.. but theres ooodles of extensions out for little things like that.
[06:01] <ecobuntu> jedrick: and i don't know what you mean by parrot
[06:01] <N6REJ> tritium: HELP@!
[06:01] <runelind> bah, cifs doesn't want to work at all
[06:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> pupil make sure to complain to the bastards who run that site!
[06:02] <ecobuntu> paul martin is going down
[06:02] <tritium> N6REJ, what's going on?
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> theres some great extras for firefox that are must haves. :p
[06:02] <ecobuntu> please not the conservatives!
[06:02] <jedrick> ecobuntu: just the image of the parrot instead of getting image to the other webcam
[06:02] <N6REJ> tritium: not a darn thing!  I'm stuck.  don't know what to do now.
[06:02] <jedrick> ecobuntu: and i don't know why they choose parrot :p
[06:02] <tritium> ecobuntu, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:02] <ecobuntu> jedrick: what's the parrot mean?  is that like there avatar?
[06:02] <ecobuntu> ok
[06:02] <TMG> Im getting this error when i sudo modprobe ndiswrapper: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[06:02] <ecobuntu> jedrick: maybe you don't have the plugin installed properly?
[06:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know why i'm getting this checkinstall error when trying to use 686? http://brokenladder.com/index.php?page=contact
[06:02] <jedrick> ecobuntu: ye, some kinda like that
[06:02] <Mr_Milenko> Does ubuntu have "drivers" for the FatX filesystem??
[06:02] <econobuntu> if it wasnt for the ubuntu family, I wouldve used another distro
[06:02] <TMG> what is going on?
[06:03] <misfit_toy> jedrick, where did you get the plugin from?
[06:03] <kronicdreamer> i have Nvidia FX 5500 OC, will it work on Ubuntu?
[06:03] <Mr_Milenko> (The xbox filesystem)
[06:03] <jedrick> ecobuntu: maybe, coz i didn't installed any plugins yet. only the gaim-vv
[06:03] <pegasus> BROKEN_LADDER  INFORMATION OVERLOAD
[06:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> misfit_toy google
[06:03] <ecobuntu> jedrick: gaim-vv is a plugin
[06:03] <jedrick> ecobuntu: but isn't that the -vv is the plugin
[06:03] <jedrick> ecobuntu: ye
[06:03] <misfit_toy> BROKEN_LADDER, I'm trying to help him, not find plugins
[06:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus information overload?
[06:03] <kronicdreamer> i have Nvidia FX 5500 OC, will it work on Ubuntu?
[06:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> misfit_toy oh..oops
[06:03] <ecobuntu> jedrick: did you install it?  it's a tarball right?
[06:04] <jedrick> ecobuntu: i get it using apt
[06:04] <ecobuntu> jedrick: oh really? it's available there?
[06:04] <pegasus> BROKEN_LADDER e yaha way too many ways to contact you
[06:04] <jedrick> ecobuntu: eys
[06:04] <jedrick> i mean yes
[06:04] <pupil> flash still does not work in my browser
[06:04] <pupil> http://bmw.ca
[06:04] <N6REJ> !tell kronicdreamer about Nvidia
[06:04] <ecobuntu> jedrick: hmm...i don't have it in my repositories
[06:04] <nicholas_paul> pupil i hate to tell you this, but to get flash, i just went to a site that needed it and clicked 'download the plugin' .
[06:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus you can't have too many.
[06:05] <ecobuntu> do you have a special repository?
[06:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus the point is, did you click on the enum number?
[06:05] <jedrick> ecobuntu: search it using apt, i think it's in there
[06:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> pegasus do you have a sip phone?
[06:05] <ecobuntu> jedrick: ijust did
[06:05] <ecobuntu> jedrick: i got no hit
[06:05] <N6REJ> Seveas: HELP!
[06:05] <jedrick> ecobuntu: :p i do have, i jsut searched it
[06:05] <tritium> N6REJ, what's going on?
[06:05] <fletch33> if i installed freenx and choose to create a key and then i read that i should have choose not to how can i uninstall it so i can go thru the setup again
[06:06] <pegasus> BROKEN_LADDER i have a iax phone kiax
[06:06] <N6REJ> tritium: I can't get fdisk to work properly... no access to /dev/hda from live cd :(
[06:06] <ecobuntu> jedrick: weird...am i the only one?  do you have a special repository in your sources.list file?
[06:06] <misfit_toy> fletch33, there's a freenx wizard in the menu as I recall
[06:06] <jedrick> jedrick: nope
[06:06] <fletch33> if i try to re-install it says it is already the newest version
[06:06] <ecobuntu> hmmm
[06:06] <ecobuntu> wierd
[06:06] <jedrick> jedrick: im just new to linux so i didn't change anything
[06:06] <jedrick> ops
[06:06] <econobuntu> hey guys, how do I make mplayer play the wmv files instead of totem
[06:06] <ecobuntu> jedrick: so are you running gaim now?
[06:06] <tritium> N6REJ, what happens when you try?
[06:06] <fletch33> misfit_toy, under apps or what i cant find it
[06:06] <N6REJ> tritium: it doesn't exist!
[06:07] <bimberi> ubotu tell econobuntu about defaultapp
[06:07] <jedrick> ecobuntu: yes
[06:07] <econobuntu> mozilla-mplayer only works for mozilla maybe? cuase it's not working for firefox
[06:07] <misfit_toy> fletch33, internet/NX
[06:07] <ecobuntu> oh man AIM sucks...they added bots to my buddies list
[06:07] <intelikey> N6REJ not scsi is it ?
[06:07] <tritium> N6REJ, that's bizarre
[06:07] <econobuntu> bimberi, I mean in firefox
[06:07] <misfit_toy> fletch33, apps/internet/NX
[06:07] <N6REJ> intelikey: nope.
[06:07] <ecobuntu> jedrick: click tools, then plugin action
[06:08] <ecobuntu> jedrick: is webcam there?
[06:08] <N6REJ> intelikey: WD80G
[06:08] <fletch33> misfit_toy, it is not there
[06:08] <jedrick> ecobuntu: wait i'll check
[06:08] <bimberi> econobuntu: that i don't know sry
[06:08] <econobuntu> :'(
[06:08] <jedrick> ecobuntu:  nooooooooooooo
[06:08] <misfit_toy> fletch33, then I don't know what to tell ya...if Seveas was around he might know.
[06:08] <jedrick> ecobuntu: no plugins
[06:08] <ecobuntu> jedrick: well...it should be
[06:08] <intelikey> N6REJ tried  sudo MAKEDEV ide     ?
[06:08] <fletch33> misfit_toy, can i somehow uninstall it
[06:08] <blanky> what plugin do i need to play wmv files in firefox, mplayer-mozilla isnt working
[06:08] <pavelich> anyone here run an nvidia fx5200 so they can get dual outputs?
[06:09] <N6REJ> intelikey: nope.
[06:09] <jedrick> ecobuntu: how come mines not
[06:09] <fletch33> misfit_toy,  so i can start over
[06:09] <shaji> how to play mp3
[06:09] <ecobuntu> jedrick: go tools, then preferences
[06:09] <misfit_toy> fletch33, sudo apt-get remove nx-client (or whatever it's called)
[06:09] <zoexii> hello, question 1... how do I turn off th startup noise on login?
[06:09] <tritium> N6REJ, so what exactly is installed?  You can't boot into your system?
[06:09] <jedrick> ok
[06:09] <joshua__> could someone please tell me what the command for installing kubuntu is?
[06:09] <ecobuntu> jedrick: then go down to plugins
[06:09] <zoexii> joshua__, use synaptic,
[06:09] <fletch33> misfit_toy,  thanks for you rhelp
[06:09] <tritium> joshua__, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:09] <ecobuntu> jedrick: see if you can locate that plugin
[06:09] <misfit_toy> fletch33, np
[06:09] <zoexii> joshua__, search for kde and install
[06:09] <ecobuntu> jedrick: if you can click the box next to it
[06:09] <lightbright> anyone worked out how to tell mplayer to play the video at half size?
[06:09] <jedrick> k
[06:09] <joshua__> thank you tritium
[06:09] <supo> hi.. i'm having a lil trouble with compiling (anything) it gives qt warnings and doesn't compile anything i wish to compile, i've looked from forums and all over web and noticed many have the same problem.. anyone know how to help this situation?
[06:10] <Octane> anyone here have a yahoo pop3 solution?
[06:10] <ecobuntu> am i the only one who does have gaim-vv in their repositories?
[06:10] <intelikey> N6REJ looked for  ls /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/    ?
[06:10] <supo> oh, and i'm using kubuntu
[06:10] <Turtlewind> Hi - I have a problem using Sudo - it gives me the error "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 18 10:51:39 2005"
[06:10] <lightbright> supo: why not just use aptitude to install?
[06:10] <tritium> Octane, yes, for $
[06:10] <ecobuntu> doesn't
[06:10] <ecobuntu> not does
[06:10] <Octane> cute
[06:10] <misfit_toy> Octane, look at http://freshmeat.net and search for yahoo mail
[06:10] <N6REJ> tritium: ok, here's the deal... When I ORIGINALLY built the system I put everything in one 80G partition.  SHAME ON ME!!!  , so now, I need to change it so that there are several smallery partitions... I've shrunk the partition with parted, np but I can't make new paritions.
[06:10] <supo> aptitude?
[06:10] <blanky> guys my mplayer-mozilla plugin is only working in mozilla, not firefox :(
[06:10] <ecobuntu> N6REJ: use fdisk
[06:11] <Turtlewind> (my system clock was wrong before and I changed it, so I guess that Sudo is refusing to work because the last time it was used is in the future)
[06:11] <supo> i can't install everything with apt-get.. like window decorations and such
[06:11] <jedrick> ecobuntu:  man it's not in there
[06:11] <Turtlewind> is this a known problem, and if so how do I solve it?
[06:11] <Razor-X> ecobuntu: ..... fdisk? we aren't Neolithic peoples
[06:11] <N6REJ> intelikey: ok, let me write it down and go over to the server.
[06:11] <tritium> N6REJ, but can you still boot without a live cd?
[06:11] <ecobuntu> jedrick: run dpkg -L gaim-vv
[06:11] <N6REJ> tritium: yep
[06:11] <ecobuntu> jedrick: at terminal to make sure it's installed
[06:11] <jedrick> ok
[06:11] <tritium> N6REJ, then run fdisk from there, not the live cd
[06:11] <ecobuntu> Razor-X: are you afraid of the terminal ;)
[06:11] <Razor-X> ecobuntu: I use a terminal all the time
[06:12] <N6REJ> tritium: can't it says /dev/hda is mounted!
[06:12] <Razor-X> ecobuntu: but not *fdisk*, cfdisk is fine, but not *fdisk* :P
[06:12] <ecobuntu> Razor-X: fdisk is the bomb
[06:12] <jedrick> ecobuntu: it say's that gaim-vv is not installed.
[06:12] <jesseman_> fdisk > anything microsoft
[06:12] <runelind> grr
[06:12] <ecobuntu> jedrick: apt-get install gaim-vv
[06:12] <jedrick> ok
[06:12] <runelind> so what is the best way to mount my mac home directory from ubuntu?
[06:12] <Razor-X> ecobuntu: i'm actually a terminal lover, of sorts :P
[06:12] <N6REJ> brb.. gonna go try intelikeys suggestion.
[06:13] <intelikey> N6REJ not fdisk /dev/hda1     leave the '1' off
[06:13] <zoexii> hello again, upon login to gnome there is a very long very loud startup noise.  I want to turn it off. is there a way to do this?
[06:13] <N6REJ> intelikey: ok.
[06:13] <shaji> how to install xmms
[06:13] <ecobuntu> jedrick: is it install gaim-vv?
[06:13] <shaji> help me help me
[06:13] <jedrick> ecobuntu: no package, but when i try to search i got this gaim-vv-1.2.0 - Package created with checkinstall 1.5.3
[06:13] <blanky> can someone please help me :'(
[06:14] <ecobuntu> jedrick: ok...that means you created it...it's needs to be installed with dpkg
[06:14] <N6REJ> intelikey: should I be on livecd or regular boot?
[06:14] <ecobuntu> jedrick: or you could use a repository i just found
[06:14] <blanky> I need the mplayer plugin for firecox, the only one I have is for mozilla, but I need it for firefox!
[06:14] <ecobuntu> jedrick: add it to your sources.list then apt-get update && apt-get install gaim-vv
[06:14] <jedrick> ecobuntu: what
[06:14] <ecobuntu> jedrick: either way
[06:14] <jedrick> ok
[06:14] <choudeshell> Need a bit of help here; I need someone to send me a large file to test the speed of this throttle.
[06:14] <shaji> how to install xmms
[06:14] <ecobuntu> jedrick: which way do you want to do it?
[06:14] <ecobuntu> jedrick: dpkg or apt-get?
[06:14] <StinkyRyan> shaji, what?
[06:15] <jedrick> ecobuntu: apt, coz it installs automatically
[06:15] <jedrick> :p
[06:15] <shaji> i can't install xmms
[06:15] <mlalkaka> will a .deb package made for debian work on ubuntu?
[06:15] <intelikey> either way N6REJ the command is  'sudo cfdisk /dev/hda '     or plain fdisk if you prefer
[06:15] <ecobuntu> jedrick: ok (dpkg is automatic too).
[06:15] <StinkyRyan> shaji, what are you trying?
[06:15] <shaji> StinkyRyan what can i do
[06:15] <choudesh_clone> Anyone want to send me a file so I can test this mirror?
[06:15] <blanky> someone help me out :'(
[06:15] <ecobuntu> jedrick:  so gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:15] <blanky> I need mplayer plugin for firefox, not mozilla!
[06:15] <ecobuntu> jedrick: then add these two lines
[06:15] <jedrick> ecobuntu: then
[06:15] <N6REJ> intelikey: ok, brb
[06:15] <shaji> StinkyRyan i want playing mp3
[06:16] <ecobuntu> jedrick: deb http://people.debian.org/~smimram/debian unstable main
[06:16] <ecobuntu> jedrick: deb-src http://people.debian.org/~smimram/debian unstable main
[06:16] <jedrick> ecobuntu: ok
[06:16] <ecobuntu> jedrick: done?  then save
[06:16] <shaji> how to install
[06:16] <ecobuntu> jedrick: apt-get update
[06:16] <ecobuntu> jedrick: apt-get install gaim-vv
[06:16] <zoexii> mlalkaka, it should provided you have all dependencies, use dpkg
[06:16] <StinkyRyan> shaji, http://ubuntuguide.org/#xmms
[06:16] <jedrick> ecobuntu: not yet, wait
[06:17] <ecobuntu> jedrick: also you might want to add a line like this #gaim-vv
[06:17] <intelikey> blanky 'apt-cache search mplayer '    will list anything in your selected resources
[06:17] <synackuator> does anyone else have adelphia!!!?!?!?!
[06:17] <ecobuntu> jedrick: that way you'll remember why you added that line
[06:17] <ecobuntu> jedrick: that hash (#) is for a comment
[06:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> where is package architecture specified for programs like checkinstall to use?
[06:17] <mlalkaka> zoexii, thanks.
[06:18] <blanky> mozilla-mplayer - MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla
[06:18] <blanky> is one of them
[06:18] <Turtlewind> sorry to ask again, but can anyone help me with a problem with Sudo?
[06:18] <blanky> but it's not working in firefox, it works in mozilla but not firefox
[06:18] <La_PaRCa> Turtlewind, shoot
[06:18] <jedrick> ecobuntu: man got conflict, i think i have to remove some gaim first.
[06:18] <ecobuntu> Turtlewind: it's best just to ask the question then asking for permission :) (cause that's what we're here for is to help)
[06:19] <ecobuntu> jedrick: why?
[06:19] <Turtlewind> La_PaRCa - it tells me "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 18 10:51:39 2005"
[06:19] <blanky> I already know about the repositories...
[06:19] <blanky> look, I installed mplayer-mozilla
[06:19] <Turtlewind> this is probably due to me changing the system time, which was badly wrong on my computer
[06:19] <jedrick> ecobuntu: dunno. maybe the installed gaim-vv
[06:19] <blanky> plugin, and its working in mozilla, but not FIREFOX
[06:19] <blanky> *caps*
[06:19] <kronicdreamer> is there anything i can download to use windows stuff for linux?
[06:19] <ecobuntu> jedrick: dpkg -r gaim-vv
[06:20] <ecobuntu> jedrick: oops...put a sudo in front of that
[06:20] <Turtlewind> and now Sudo thinks that it was last used at some point in the future, so it doesn't want to let me play
[06:20] <bimberi> kronicdreamer: wine
[06:20] <bimberi> ubotu tell kronicdreamer about wine
[06:20] <Turtlewind> sudo -k and -K don't work (they give me the same 'too far in the future' error
[06:20] <jedrick> ok
[06:20] <kronicdreamer> is there a site?
[06:20] <ecobuntu> jedrick: did that work?
[06:20] <bimberi> kronicdreamer: http://www.winehq.org
[06:20] <kronicdreamer> just point me in the right dir
[06:20] <kronicdreamer> kewl thnx
[06:20] <ecobuntu> jedrick:  sudo apt-get install gaim-vv (if that worked)
[06:21] <Turtlewind> but strangely, it works perfectly in the virtual terminals
[06:21] <bimberi> kronicdreamer: np :) - note that it's only for i386 (not amd64 or ppc...)
[06:21] <La_PaRCa> Turtlewind, probably
[06:21] <intelikey> kronicdreamer the right direction is use apt to install wine
[06:21] <ana> sudo apt-get install wine
[06:21] <ecobuntu> tritium are you a moderator?
[06:21] <La_PaRCa> Turtlewind, you probably have some funky timestamps in a file
[06:21] <jedrick> ecobuntu: when i try to remove it says that ignoring request to remove gaim-vv which is not installed
[06:21] <La_PaRCa> Turtlewind, what were you trying to do?
[06:21] <bimberi> kronicdreamer: indeed, install it via ubuntu, but learn about it on that site
[06:22] <jedrick>  Conflicts: gaim
[06:22] <jedrick>            Conflicts: gaim-gnome
[06:22] <jedrick>            Conflicts: gaim-data but 1:1.5.0-1ubuntu3 is to be installed
[06:22] <jedrick> oops
[06:22] <ecobuntu> jedrick: sudo apt-get -f install
[06:22] <N6REJ> intelikey: ok, I was able to start cfdisk properly, but the parition wasn't shrunk like I thought.  There is no room left.  So I tried parted and it won't change it as it thinks its a ext2 filesystem ( which it was when I first installed, but I upgraded it ) and says it has a "strange layout and can't change it "YET"  "
[06:22] <Turtlewind> La_PaRCa - I am trying to install updates
[06:22] <ecobuntu> jedrick: what does that do?  in the future...use pastebin
[06:22] <ecobuntu> jedrick: someone will yell at you
[06:22] <La_PaRCa> Turtlewind, try: sudo -K
[06:22] <ecobuntu> or #flood
[06:23] <La_PaRCa> Turtlewind, then try again with the updates
[06:23] <jedrick> ok
[06:23] <lightbright> how can I install libdvdcss?
[06:23] <ecobuntu> !dvd
[06:23] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:23] <Turtlewind> I tried that; it gives me the same 'too far in the future' error
[06:23] <ecobuntu> !libdvdcss2
[06:23] <ubotu> it has been said that libdvdcss2 is to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"
[06:23] <lightbright> ecobuntu: thanks
[06:23] <ecobuntu> lightbright: just run the script
[06:24] <tritium> ecobuntu, yes, I'm an op.  What's the matter?
[06:24] <mustard5> Turtlewind, you having a sudo issue after changing the time?
[06:24] <Turtlewind> mustard5 - yes
[06:24] <ecobuntu> tritium: nothing...just curious...you always want to know who to make friends with :)
[06:24] <totaka> Hi, is there anything special do I need to do to allow local user to upload a file?
[06:24] <totaka> vsftpd
[06:24] <mustard5> Turtlewind, have you tried rebooting?
[06:24] <intelikey> N6REJ my sujestion is burn any and all data to cd that you wish to save and kill the 80g monster that is ruling your kingdom, make new partitions as needed.
[06:24] <N6REJ> ;(
[06:24] <totaka> I enabled localuser to login :(
[06:25] <blanky> Guys, what do you use to play wmv files in firefox, mplayer-mozilla plugin isnt working for me in firefox
[06:25] <intelikey> N6REJ you have created a monster.     it happens.
[06:25] <mustard5> Turtlewind, I was troubleshooting with someone last week on the same problem..we tried all types of commands to reset the timestamp, but in the end a reboot fixed it
[06:25] <ecobuntu> N6REJ: what's wrong with fdisk?  didn't you say you resized your partitions?  why not just install what you want to (i.e. another linux distro, windows, etc.)
[06:25] <N6REJ> intelikey: I saved alot of stuff last night to a tarball.  The only thing I'm concerned about is the regular conf files.
[06:25] <Turtlewind> mustard5 - no, I'd prefer not to right now because I'm downloading something, but if that will fix it I can do that in a few minutes
[06:25] <tritium> N6REJ, don't fret.  My laptop drive died today
[06:25] <ecobuntu> jedrick: how's it going?
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> blanky,  you did instll the win32codec pack?
[06:26] <Turtlewind> OK, I'll do that
[06:26] <Turtlewind> thanks a lot
[06:26] <N6REJ> ecobuntu: as I said a few ago it didn't resize like it told me.
[06:26] <dirkson> Hey all. Anyone know where the gnome applets live? My battery indicator died and I'd really like it back.
[06:26] <lightbright> ecobuntu: what script?
[06:26] <tritium> N6REJ, it didn't really resize?
[06:26] <N6REJ> <------- slaps his hand furiously for doing something so stupid that he knows better!
[06:26] <jedrick> ecobuntu: dude it says that "The following packages will be REMOVED:  gaim gaim-data gaim-encryption ubuntu-desktop" is that ok?
[06:26] <mustard5> Turtlewind, no guarantees it will work, but thats my experience with it
[06:26] <jedrick> ecobuntu: i mean the ubuntu-desktop wil be remove
[06:26] <ecobuntu> at terminal sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[06:26] <smudo> !upgrade
[06:26] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:26] <lightbright> ecobuntu: run what script?
[06:26] <N6REJ> tritium: nope it sure didn't... it SAID it did but it didn't
[06:26] <intelikey> N6REJ most global configuration files are in /etc/    and personal ones are in $HOME/
[06:26] <jedrick> ecobuntu: when i do the sudo apt0get install gaim-vv
[06:26] <blanky> Dr_Willis: i installed w32codecs, is that it?
[06:26] <ecobuntu> jedrick: ubuntu-desktop is fine
[06:27] <Turtlewind> I'll come back once I've rebooted and tell you whether it worked
[06:27] <ecobuntu> jedrick: it's a virtual package
[06:27] <calderstrake> does anyone here run a teamspeak server by chance?
[06:27] <mustard5> Turtlewind, that would be good
[06:27] <jedrick> ecobuntu: ok
[06:27] <ecobuntu> jedrick: it's fine to remove it
[06:27] <N6REJ> intelikey: then I should be ok, cause all of /etc was backed, just not /usr/share
[06:27] <tritium> N6REJ, I see
[06:27] <ecobuntu> lightbright: at terminal sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> blanky,  often theres just some funky wmv's out that ya cant fnd anything toplay.. try donloading the file manually an dplaying it.
[06:27] <lightbright> ecobuntu: I typed:  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[06:27] <blanky> Dr_Willis: I installed w32codecs
[06:27] <jedrick> ecobuntu:  WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! gaim-vv, what's this
[06:27] <lightbright> ecobuntu: well that was easy :P
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> blanky,  also may want to try xine, an vlc
[06:28] <ecobuntu> jedrick: just say yes...it's cause your apt is greater than 0.6
[06:28] <ecobuntu> jedrick: they are using authentication keys
[06:28] <smudo> wasn't there a bot here to answer FAQs at one point?  I'm trying to upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10
[06:28] <jedrick> ecobuntu: ok
[06:28] <lightbright> ecobuntu: is that all I needed to do to play back DVD?
[06:28] <ecobuntu> lightbright: should be!
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> smudo,  thats covered in the wiki in some detail.
[06:28] <N6REJ> *sigh* well thanks guys... I feel very stupid, but its my fault.
[06:28] <La_PaRCa> !upgrade
[06:28] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:28] <lightbright> ecobuntu: easy :) thanks
[06:28] <ecobuntu> np
[06:29] <ecobuntu> jedrick: so you've install gaim-vv and gaim now?
[06:29] <blanky> Dr_Willis, I tried the same wmv in mozilla and it worked
[06:29] <blanky> okay listen
[06:29] <N6REJ> intelikey: can I meet you on offtopic for a few?
[06:29] <smudo> thanks La_PaRCa
[06:29] <blanky> wmplayer-mozilla only works in mozilla (at least for me)
[06:29] <intelikey> yeah
[06:29] <blanky> not firefox
[06:29] <ecobuntu> i like being helpful
[06:29] <smudo> !upgrade
[06:29] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:29] <jedrick> ecobuntu: yes.
[06:29] <ecobuntu> jedrick: so you've got gaim installed?
[06:30] <ecobuntu> jedrick: open it up and see if the plugin appears
[06:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i specify which architecture gcc uses?  it's using i386 instead of 686.
[06:30] <lightbright> is kxdocker nice to install on Breeze?
[06:30] <blanky> how do I install xine, I installed totem-xine but I didnt know how to run it (just run totem?)
[06:30] <jedrick> ecobuntu: im still installing the gaim-vv yet
[06:30] <ecobuntu> ok
[06:30] <maddash> is there a channel dedicated to ibm thinkpads?
[06:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> blanky i believe you just run totem
[06:30] <ecobuntu> jedrick: you know you could use synaptic and not apt-get if you want
[06:31] <ecobuntu> jedrick: i'm just a command freak cause i learn linux on slackware
[06:31] <blanky> okay, look, wmv files aren't working for me with mplayer in firefox :'(
[06:31] <blanky> only in mozilla
[06:31] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, with the -march=cpu-type option
[06:31] <jedrick> ecobuntu: no i want apt-get
[06:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium thanks
[06:31] <ecobuntu> jedrick: you're a good man (or women)!
[06:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium so i'd put in 686?
[06:31] <jedrick> ecobuntu:  man
[06:31] <jedrick> :p
[06:32] <ecobuntu> jedrick: btw..here's the website i got those repositories off
[06:32] <blanky> where can i get firefox plugins
[06:32] <ecobuntu> jedrick: http://blog.mypapit.net/2005/09/gaim-vv-gaim-with-webcam-and-voice-support.html
[06:32] <ecobuntu> jedrick: if you're insterested
[06:32] <jedrick> ecobuntu: ok thnx
[06:32] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, not quite.  man gcc for valid cpu types
[06:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium i don't see any -march option in make
[06:32] <lightbright> ecobuntu: was it wise of me to enter those pgp commands?
[06:32] <mustard5> blanky, which particular plugin are you after?
[06:33] <ecobuntu> lightbright: pgp commands?  i am not sure of what you're talkinga bout
[06:33] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, you asked about gcc
[06:33] <blanky> mustard5: mplayer
[06:33] <lightbright> ecobuntu: the gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1135D466   &   gpg --export --armor 1135D466 | sudo apt-key add -  from Seveas website
[06:33] <lightbright> ecobuntu: was it wise of me to enter those commands?
[06:33] <blanky> mustard5:I installed it, but it only works in mozilla and not firefox
[06:33] <tritium> lightbright, yes
[06:33] <ecobuntu> lightbright: sure
[06:33] <lightbright> ecobuntu: not a security risk is it?
[06:33] <ecobuntu> lightbright: you can always delete them later...you're not at a security risk
[06:33] <ecobuntu> !pgp
[06:33] <lightbright> tritium: ok just checking :) was worried :P
[06:33] <ubotu> ecobuntu: Not a clue
[06:34] <tritium> lightbright, no worries
[06:34] <lightbright> ecobuntu: ok :)
[06:34] <blanky> mustard5: the only helper I get and he's not talking :'(
[06:34] <ecobuntu> lightbright: i think you can even delete them from synaptic IIRC
[06:34] <lightbright> tritium: are you always so nice?  or did I get you on a good day? :)
[06:34] <mustard5> blanky, hmm...I know mozplugger allows apps to run in firefox, but I think firefox would probably end up using totem as totem is the default
[06:34] <lightbright> ecobuntu: ok cool
[06:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium uhh..doesn't make use gcc?
[06:34] <tritium> lightbright, well, I try to be.  it helps that you're so nice too :)
[06:34] <lightbright> tritium: :)
[06:35] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, make uses whatever you tell it to
[06:35] <misfit_toy> group hug
[06:35] <tritium> heh
[06:35] <mustard5> blanky, you might be able to set mplayer as the default, but thats something that I am not sure how to do.
[06:35] <lightbright> tritium: I always try to be respectful and patient with any teacher that is helping me learn.  Im twice the student than I am a teacher in life
[06:35] <calderstrake> quick question... im trying to use a custom icon for the one-click links on the task bar.. .but they are all greyed-out
[06:35] <calderstrake> who do i use a custom icon?
[06:35] <calderstrake> how*
[06:35] <tritium> lightbright, nice
[06:35] <lightbright> misfit_toy: yeah, group hug ;)
[06:35] <ecobuntu> jedrick: you know you can ONLY view a webcam with this plugin not broadcast
[06:36] <ecobuntu> jedrick: and that's only with MSN and YAHOO users
[06:36] <mustard5> blanky, is there any reason why you wouldn't want totem to run in firefox instead?
[06:36] <jedrick> ecobuntu: ok
[06:36] <lightbright> misfit_toy: I read once that if you never touch or hug a new born baby, they die!  thats how important hugs are to a human, even when they get older :)
[06:36] <blanky> it's not working for me, totem sucks for me (it doesnt play the files), mplayer works (i tried in mozilla), and when i go to about:plugins it shows mplayer there too
[06:36] <blanky> but I dont know how to set it as the default
[06:37] <slew> hi, i have an error message: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file, where do i get this file?
[06:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> tritium okay..i have an app i want to compile and install, and i want it to be compiled under i686
[06:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> not i386
[06:37] <misfit_toy> lightbright, interesting, but I've hugged lots of newborns, lightly of course.
[06:37] <mustard5> blanky, I believe its possible, I just don't know how
[06:37] <lightbright> misfit_toy: lol ;)
[06:37] <blanky> :'S
[06:37] <dducko> In Breezy, totem has issues with firefox
[06:37] <dducko> What are you trying to do blanky?
[06:37] <jesseman_> slew: what are you running?
[06:37] <blanky> set mplayer to default-ly play wmv files
[06:37] <blanky> instead of totem
[06:37] <slew> KDX
[06:37] <blanky> dducko please help me :'(
[06:38] <dducko> In Firefox, or normally?
[06:38] <dducko> Like after you download it.
[06:38] <transgress> is it possible to update the ipod firmware in linux?
[06:38] <jesseman_> slew: not familiar .. what does it do?
[06:38] <blanky> no dducko
[06:38] <blanky> embeded wmv files
[06:38] <tritium> BROKEN_LADDER, did you run ./configure?
[06:38] <dducko> Ahh ok.
[06:38] <bur[n] er> transgress: possibly with wine?
[06:38] <dducko> Hang on a second..
[06:38] <jesseman_> slew: also, did you ever get your dirvers to work?
[06:38] <bur[n] er> transgress: good demand to make of apple though :)
[06:38] <transgress> bur[n] er: yeah
[06:38] <blanky> in mozilla, when I go to a site, it has embedded wmv, it works, in firefox it tries to use totem and it doesnt work, i wanna set mplayer as default
[06:38] <dducko> have you installed the mplyaer plugin yet blanky?
[06:39] <ecobuntu> jedrick: did this work for you?
[06:39] <jesseman_> slew: i mean drivers, of course :)
[06:39] <bur[n] er> anyone know how to play .mmf (ringtone files) in ubuntu?
[06:39] <blanky> dducko: yeah! and like i said, it works in mozilla but not firefox
[06:39] <blanky> in firefox it triest to use totem instead
[06:39] <blanky> frickin totem
[06:39] <misfit_toy> blanky, you have to delete a file under the .firefox directory...pluginreg.dat I believe? then restart firefox
[06:39] <tritium> easy there blanky
[06:39] <dducko> blanky, still running firefox 1.0.7
[06:40] <slew> jesseman_, yes, check tlinux. kdx is a chat/community type program. it worked before the fresh install, ive installed the build essential. im not trying to compile, im just trying to run the program.
[06:40] <jesseman_> slew: ok, ive been in the chan for a bit :)
[06:40] <dducko> blanky sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtot*
[06:40] <blanky> dducko: what? yeah i think im running 1.0.7
[06:40] <lightbright> im creating a gpg key and it keeps saying: Not enough random bytes available.  Please do some other work to give
[06:40] <lightbright> !  Any ideas?
[06:40] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, lightbright
[06:41] <derrickw> i wish i knew where all those conversations on bash.org occur. there must be some awesome irc channel out there that i'm missing
[06:41] <blanky> dducko, i type that command in terminal?
[06:41] <dducko> yeah
[06:41] <blanky> sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtot*
[06:41] <blanky> okay thanks!
[06:41] <DShepherd> hey
[06:41] <dducko> then restart firefox and see fi that fixed it
[06:41] <ecobuntu> anyone know if firefox 1.5 is going to be backported?
[06:41] <ecobuntu> it's pretty sweet
[06:41] <transgress> ecobuntu: more than likely
[06:41] <ecobuntu> transgress: i think it's already in sid
[06:42] <DShepherd> ecobuntu: i guess so
[06:42] <transgress> ecobuntu: then grab the sid package if you like...
[06:42] <ecobuntu> well i am not that eager ;)
[06:42] <transgress> i want a package for flock
[06:42] <dducko> It isnt in the dapper repos yet
[06:43] <dducko> Probally after the final comes out later this month
[06:43] <jedrick> ecobuntu: man still don't got the plugins
[06:43] <blanky> dducko: i think this might help, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=379297 , but I cant interpret it
[06:43] <xinthea> anyone running rosegarden?
[06:43] <blanky> can you help me dducko :(
[06:43] <ecobuntu> jedrick: wierd
[06:43] <lightbright> has anyone successfuly created a pgp key?
[06:43] <ecobuntu> jedrick: i don't know what to say...does dpkg -L gaim-vv...show it as installed?
[06:43] <blanky> dducko: are you there?
[06:44] <La_PaRCa> HEy, anyone has any idea why seahorse freezes when I try to find a key in a server?
[06:44] <blanky> dducko, what I want is to set mplayer as default player for wmv instead of totem
[06:44] <crimsun> lightbright: (well, a GPG key, yes)
[06:44] <Aree> Why Re-Writing CD on Gnome Baker ?
[06:44] <lightbright> crimsun: it doesnt seem to work for me, any help?
[06:45] <lightbright> crimsun: I type gpg --gen-key
[06:45] <mustard5> blanky, did you restart firefox and try it after doing the command dducko showed you?
[06:45] <lightbright> crimsun: but it says Not enough random bytes available.  Please do some other work to give
[06:45] <dducko> blanky, that should have got rid of totem completley..
[06:45] <blanky> mustard5: i didnt try the command
[06:45] <jedrick> ecobuntu: ye, i think i need to restart the gaim-vv first :p
[06:45] <dducko> the command I gave you removes the totem plugins
[06:46] <blanky> yeah, I dont want to get rid of totem, I want to know if theres a way of somply making it so that mplayer is used instead of mplayer
[06:46] <mustard5> blanky, well it appears that that would take totem completely out of the equation with regards to firefox
[06:46] <DShepherd> jedrick: I should try it out tooo
[06:46] <DShepherd> jedrick: gaim-vv that is
[06:46] <dducko> It just takes it out of firefox, you still have it
[06:46] <DShepherd> jedrick: is it in the repos?
[06:46] <ecobuntu> ok
[06:46] <crimsun> lightbright: so you should bang on the keyboard, listen to music, move the mouse around, etc.
[06:46] <misfit_toy> blanky, that doesn't remove totem from your system, just from firefox
[06:46] <ecobuntu> DShepherd: he added a special repository
[06:46] <lightbright> crimsun: I do that like crazy, but same message
[06:46] <DShepherd> ecobuntu: which was?
[06:47] <ecobuntu> DShepherd: http://blog.mypapit.net/2005/09/gaim-vv-gaim-with-webcam-and-voice-support.html
[06:47] <ecobuntu> go there
[06:47] <blanky> guys, but if it does that, then will it use mplayer instead?
[06:47] <ecobuntu> add the repositories
[06:47] <blanky> how can I just make it use mplayer instead, does this help? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=379297
[06:47] <mustard5> blanky, thats the plan
[06:47] <DShepherd> k
[06:47] <blanky> fine i'll try it
[06:47] <blanky> read the site i gave you though, it might help but i dont get it
[06:47] <ecobuntu> you won't be able to verify the package though cause i don't know where the gpg key is
[06:47] <Bikram___> help
[06:48] <blanky> yay it uses mplayer now
[06:48] <blanky> I love you all
[06:48] <blanky> you guys are so cool! :D
[06:48] <blanky> *blanky hug*
[06:49] <mindless> Hey im back, heh,
[06:49] <dducko> *laughs as he slowly shakes his head*
[06:49] <blanky> bye!
[06:49] <mustard5> :)
[06:49] <mustard5> another happy customer ;)
[06:50] <dducko> Always good.
[06:50] <toshiba> i have toshiba satellite L10, how to support battery ??
[06:50] <mindless> all i want to do is share my internet between to computers using ubuntu, ive read a few fourms, and no one seems to be specificly doing what im doing....would shorewall be a program that could do this, or is there a lighter one,,,i dont need a firewall.
[06:50] <lightbright> crimsun: It worked now I banged the kb like it was insane
[06:50] <lightbright> does anyone know  Dennis Kaarsemaker ?
[06:50] <tritium> toshiba, what do you mean by support?
[06:50] <crimsun> lightbright: that's Seveas.
[06:50] <lightbright> crimsun:  ahh
[06:50] <lightbright> crimsun:  for his name is on my pgp keys :P
[06:51] <crimsun> tritium: are you using 2.6.15-3 in dapper with wpasupplicant on a centrino chipset?
[06:51] <intelikey> mindless shorewall is a firewall me thinks
[06:51] <wx9j> have an endless loop asking for password trying to talk to a win box , any iedas ?
[06:51] <mindless> alright, it was said to have a few other parts in it also.
[06:51] <tritium> crimsun, no, I'm not using dapper yet (only working ubuntu machine is my work laptop with breezy)
[06:52] <toshiba> i wont support acpi
[06:52] <ecobuntu> 2.6.15-3?  is that in dapper?
[06:52] <ecobuntu> what happened to 2.6.14-1?
[06:52] <crimsun> tritium: oh, ok. I was going to mention my heads-up in -devel.
[06:52] <crimsun> ecobuntu: we skipped it in favor of .15-rc
[06:52] <tritium> crimsun, I saw that.  Thanks for making sure :)
[06:53] <mindless> when i was networking these computers with redhad, i didnt need any extra programs, i just had to twink the DNS and IP's just right....but the options for that arent in the network settings, is there a mod or something to get those?
[06:53] <mindless> redhat*
[06:53] <toshiba> tritium, i wont support acpi
[06:53] <cafuego> lightbright: he's asleep at the moment.
[06:54] <ecobuntu> mindless: ifconfig?
[06:54] <intelikey> yeah mindless one of these fellows can surely help you setup your network.      but i am network illiterate.
[06:54] <lightbright> cafuego: :)
[06:54] <tritium> toshiba, Tecra A10?
[06:54] <lightbright> cafuego: I found Seveas really nice, just met him yesterday
[06:54] <drcode> hi all
[06:55] <intelikey> drcode
[06:55] <cafuego> lightbright: online or irl?
[06:55] <mindless> ifconfig a function of ubuntu?
[06:55] <drcode> I install dovecot
[06:55] <lightbright> online
[06:55] <mindless> or a program?
[06:55] <lightbright> anyway
[06:55] <drcode> but its dosnt come with smtp ?
[06:55] <lightbright> time to leave, thank you everyone, see you tomorrow :)
[06:55] <ecobuntu> ifconfig is a unix command
[06:55] <tritium> good night, lightbright
[06:55] <cafuego> it *is* tomorrow <heh>
[06:55] <ecobuntu> man ifconfig
[06:55] <lightbright> tritium: :)
[06:55] <wx9j> connect to server has no smb option to allow me to talk to my win box, any ideas why ?
[06:55] <toshiba> tritium, satellite L10
[06:55] <tritium> cafuego, how can the present be the future?  :)
[06:55] <jedrick> ecobuntu: man still don't have the plugins
[06:55] <mindless> oh great,
[06:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> i got on air america radio
[06:56] <cafuego> tritium: By the past being the present
[06:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> i totally choked, but i got on.
[06:56] <khermans> wx9j, just use nautilus with smb://192.168.x.x
[06:56] <tritium> cafuego, but...
[06:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> yayyyy
[06:56] <ecobuntu> jedrick: that sucks...i don't know what to tell you
[06:56] <mindless> might be able to use a walkthrew i found then
[06:56] <mindless> altho its writen using the gui
[06:56] <ecobuntu> jedrick: maybe you've stumbled on a bug
[06:56] <khermans> wx9j, or Places -> Network Sevrers
[06:56] <jedrick> ecobuntu: even my smiley is taken off
[06:56] <mindless> and i dont know my way around the terminal.
[06:56] <pc22> is vnc possible for two networks?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> BROKEN_LADDER,  now call up Art Bell!
[06:56] <mindless> be back prolly, if i fail~
[06:56] <cafuego> tritium: Please park all butts in the designated areas before enterting the channel.
[06:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> Dr_Willis he's not on the radio right now.
[06:57] <Terminus> mindless, you need NAT right? you could enable ip_forward and use iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $EXTIF -j MASQUERADE, maybe in post-up.
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> BROKEN_LADDER,  Dang! - National Geograhic channel had a show on "Chuparacabras" yesterday :P
[06:57] <wx9j> khermans, you got me there , this has been making me nuts for days
[06:57] <ecobuntu> jedrick: hmm...i don't know
[06:57] <khermans> wx9j, you mean it worked for you ?
[06:57] <tritium> cafuego, :)
[06:57] <khermans> good
[06:58] <ecobuntu> mindless: what are you trying to do network computers?
[06:58] <mindless> yes
[06:58] <mindless> 2 computers, 1 with DSL coming threw eth0, and networked to the other comp threw eth1
[06:59] <nothing> hello all
[06:59] <intelikey> nothing
[06:59] <ecobuntu> hmm...there must be some nice GUI but i am not sure...
[06:59] <mustard5> welcome nothing
[06:59] <german> hi [linner]  how're you doing
[06:59] <tritium> toshiba, I do believe acpi works on the L10: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ToshibaSatelliteProL10
[06:59] <[linner] > hey german
[06:59] <german> hi everybody
[06:59] <nothing> can someone give me a hand with alps glidepoint
[07:00] <joshua__1> hello, i am in kde now and am wondering how to get rid of gnome now to free up space
[07:00] <wx9j> khermans, the browser did, got the shared folders showing in the browser
[07:00] <khermans> wx9j, :-)
[07:00] <[linner] > german, just fine thanks
[07:00] <[linner] > :
[07:00] <[linner] > :)
[07:00] <german> [linner] , did you install ubuntu in your laptop??
[07:00] <wx9j> but the damm thing wont let me look in the folder :)
[07:00] <wawassoft> some one can chat in spanihs?
[07:00] <tritium> !es
[07:00] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:00] <[linner] > um a few days ago
[07:00] <mindless> terminus dont happen to know a url too a howto on that do you?
[07:00] <[linner] > so i'm trying to get this ndiswrapper to work for me
[07:01] <Terminus> mindless, http://www.aboutdebian.com/proxy.htm
[07:01] <german> wawassoft, usa el canal #ubuntu-es, sino yo soy de Per :P
[07:01] <SirKillalot> heh that rox
[07:01] <SirKillalot> what does "ayuda" mean?
[07:01] <mindless> alright,
[07:01] <toshiba> tritium, thanks
[07:01] <tritium> SirKillalot, help
[07:01] <[linner] > german, how are you?
[07:01] <cafuego> Das ist kein Deutsch, du Lgner!
[07:01] <cafuego> SirKillalot: 'help'.
[07:01] <german> fine [linner]  I just installed Breezy in my pc
[07:01] <intelikey> joshua__1 sudo apt-get remove gnome<blah>    and to find out what <blah> is   dpkg -la | grep gnome | less
[07:02] <[linner] > oh that's great!
[07:02] <Terminus> mindless, there's nothing like the terminal though. i've never tried setting up a NAT with a GUI. assuming you're using ppp for the modem, you could create a script for post-up using SNAT instead of MASQUERADE. forgot the exact line but it involved using the variables setup by pppd.
[07:02] <wx9j> khermans, the places -netowrk servers sets me in an endless loop of asking for password
[07:02] <[linner] > SURE wish i could get this ndiswrapper thing working
[07:02] <[linner] > sucks not being able to use my laptop at work
[07:02] <Terminus> mindless, oh, and that howto will make you use the terminal. ;)
[07:02] <german> yeah [linner] , but it looks better tha Hoary but still having little problems
[07:02] <khermans> wx9j, save it -- and if that fails just click cancel on the following screens
[07:02] <crimsun> what doesn't work with ndiswrapper?
[07:02] <khermans> wx9j, it will still let you ine
[07:03] <[linner] > german, brb
[07:03] <wx9j> I will try that
[07:03] <khermans> wx9j, best thing to do is mount your shared stuff in /etc/fstab
[07:03] <joshua__1> ok thanks intelikey
[07:03] <Terminus> mindless, oh, and you can use /etc/sysctl.conf instead of placing it in the script in that howto.
[07:03] <tritium> crimsun, linner's broadcom
[07:03] <german> [linner] , brb? sorry i don't undestard
[07:03] <german> haha
[07:03] <intelikey> oh joshua__1 ubuntu-desktop will also be part of that list to remove.       you wont remove everything that comes up in the list of coures.....
[07:04] <[linner] > german, jahajaja
[07:04] <[linner] > :)
[07:04] <[linner] > german, isn't that right? :)
[07:04] <mindless> noted
[07:04] <crimsun> [linner] : what error message(s) do you receive?
[07:04] <german> yes [linner]  its jajaaaajaja
[07:04] <Toran> can anyone point me to a guid for converting video files such as OGM, MKV, AVI, etc. into a format that will play on my dvd player?
[07:04] <nothing> anyone able to get the alps glidepoint scroll to work in ubuntu 5.10?
[07:04] <german> but what does brb means anyway??
[07:04] <crimsun> Toran: doom9.org
[07:04] <[linner] > crimsun... no error messages... my wlan simply isn't showing up
[07:05] <crimsun> [linner] : breezy?
[07:05] <tritium> german, "be right back..."
[07:05] <[linner] > crimsun, yes
[07:05] <Edgardoweb> # ututo
[07:05] <german> tritium, thanks ;)
[07:05] <[linner] > tritium, he knows... he was joking with me
[07:05] <crimsun> [linner] : on an open net or one with WEP/WPA[2] ?
[07:05] <german> [linner] , i didn't know hahaha
[07:05] <wx9j> well khermans , still no luck, but thanks for the help.
[07:05] <tritium> [linner] , oh, heh :)
[07:05] <nothing> or could someone point me in the right direction?
[07:05] <Edgardoweb>  ututometanse en # ututo
[07:06] <german> [linner] , I didn't knew
[07:06] <german> jajaja
[07:06] <Edgardoweb>  ututometanse en /join  # ututo
[07:06] <[linner] > crimsun, oh lord.... how do i find out?
[07:06] <khermans> wx9j, you sure you have the user and password and dmoain correct
[07:06] <[linner] > oh oh... my network
[07:06] <crimsun> [linner] : it would be set on the wireless AP
[07:06] <cafuego> Edgardoweb: Why are you spamming?
[07:06] <[linner] > crimsun, it's wpa
[07:06] <[linner] > crimsun, should i make it open
[07:06] <[linner] > ?
[07:06] <Toran> crimsun: the howto references a software called "dvd2svcd", which appears to be a win32 program
[07:06] <crimsun> [linner] : I presume you're using wpasupplicant with ndiswrapper?
[07:07] <JonasNZ> whats the best place to look for help trying to get suspend to ram working, if i try sudo /etc/acpi/sleep.sh i get a bit of black screen, then I see my gfx card details like on boot and then i get blue bars
[07:07] <[linner] > crimsun, i don't know what that is... so I doubt that I am... download it through synaptic?
[07:07] <wx9j> the domain is correct although it keeps defaulting to some MSHOME crap, this is a test sys to the passwd is same on both box
[07:07] <crimsun> [linner] : if you're using WPA on your wireless AP, you have to use wpasupplicant with ndiswrapper
[07:07] <[linner] > ok... i'll go get it
[07:07] <[linner] > brb
[07:08] <tritium> JonasNZ, you need to uncomment line 2 of /etc/default/acpi-support, and possibly play around with a few of the settings
[07:08] <Edgardoweb> cafuego no hablo english
[07:09] <[linner] > crimsun, i downloaded it... it's installed (wpasupplicant)
[07:09] <[linner] > crimsun, what should I do now?
[07:09] <Edgardoweb>  ututo metanse en /join  # ututo
[07:09] <JonasNZ> sum1 /kick Edgardoweb plz
[07:09] <tritium> Edgardoweb, please go to #ubuntu-es
[07:10] <joshua__1> hey intelikey, do i have to remove each package one at a time?
[07:10] <cafuego> tritium: Whilst you're at it, *!*@85.* are pretty much all spambots.
[07:10] <Edgardoweb> jonasnz: :S
[07:10] <Edgardoweb> :S
[07:10] <crimsun> [linner] : you need to edit /etc/default/wpasupplicant and /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[07:10] <cafuego> Edgardoweb: Sja, ik spreek ook niet wat jij daar spreekt, maar je hoort mij niet 9tot nu toe dan) in het nederlands zeuren.
[07:11] <[linner] > crimsun, ok i'll open it....
[07:11] <crimsun> [linner] : you may wish to take a look in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples/
[07:11] <[linner] > crimsun, would it just be easier to open my network?
[07:11] <tritium> cafuego, your'e so observant
[07:11] <wx9j> khermans, when I select connect to server, the service type has no SMB option, am I missing some code somewhere
[07:11] <tritium> you're, even
[07:11] <cafuego> tritium: Nono, they been at it all day (seveas banned 'em this morning)
[07:12] <[linner] > crimsun, what do i do to open the file?
[07:12] <khermans> wx9j, dunno
[07:12] <wx9j> k
[07:12] <drcode> dovecot , what SMTP server I can use?
[07:13] <cafuego> drcode: postfix is installed already. 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow postfix' will get you started.
[07:13] <cafuego> tritium: muaha - cheers :-)
[07:13] <drcode> thanx
[07:13] <khermans> drcode, postfix
[07:13] <drcode> thanx alot
[07:13] <tritium> cafuego, thank you too
[07:15] <robert11> Time to go hohe I think
[07:15] <robert11> home
[07:15] <cafuego> tritium: didya see that one?
[07:15] <crimsun> tritium: it's better to remove that ban and to set +r
[07:16] <cafuego> robert11: are you abusing a client's banmdwidth for irc? :-)
[07:16] <tritium> hmm?
[07:16] <crimsun> [linner] : you can use any editor with sudo
[07:16] <robert11> No just mine. But home is next room
[07:16] <cafuego> 'iiuuxoci@81.214.95.142'
[07:17] <crimsun> tritium: the floodbots come from too many IPs; it's better just to set +r temporarily
[07:17] <robert11> looking at using zenity to make a bash script to write fstab files
[07:17] <robert11> to get round VFS problem with openoffice
[07:18] <robert11> go around problem
[07:18] <[linner] > crimsun, there is no file in that folder
[07:18] <[linner] > only a tar.gz file
[07:18] <crimsun> [linner] : wpa_supplicant.conf.gz ?
[07:18] <[linner] > yep
[07:18] <[linner] > actually
[07:18] <[linner] > no
[07:18] <crimsun> [linner] : you can open that using vim
[07:18] <[linner] > actually yes
[07:18] <[linner] > wpa_supplicant.conf.gz
[07:18] <crimsun> or z{less,more}
[07:18] <[linner] > crimsun what's vim?
[07:19] <crimsun> [linner] : the editor ViM
[07:19] <robert11> vi on steroids
[07:19] <[linner] > ok
[07:19] <cafuego> vim is, like, better than vi
[07:19] <bimberi> cafuego: spoken like ubotu :P
[07:19] <cafuego> robert11: Looks like ooo has no 'favourites' option in the load/save dialogs either :-(
[07:20] <cafuego> Aree: Thank you for NOT doing that.
[07:20] <benplaut> Vi IMproved
[07:20] <[linner] > crimsun, i don't have that editor
[07:20] <[linner] > crimsun, nothing happens
[07:20] <robert11> no. nada. nothing.:-(
[07:20] <cafuego> [linner] : use your favourite editor or pager.
[07:20] <[linner] > ok
[07:21] <dabaR> [linner] : yes, you do have that editor, its under vi in a terminal.
[07:21] <[linner] > ok
[07:21] <tritium> good night, friends
[07:21] <dabaR> night
[07:21] <cafuego> tritium: g'night :-)
[07:22] <[linner] > night tritium  :)
[07:22] <bimberi> nn tritium
[07:22] <tritium> :)
[07:22] <robert11> if I use bash script with zenity I  can su to root, re-write fstab then run mount
[07:22] <dabaR> hehe
[07:23] <robert11> i reallly just want to "patch" the fstab though
[07:23] <robert11> sorry using this as a whiteboard
[07:23] <dabaR> robert11: that above, the zenity part, that was not a question was it?
[07:23] <[linner] > ya'll it's telling me i don't have the right permissions
[07:23] <cafuego> robert11: backup the orig, replace when done.
[07:24] <dabaR> y'all:set the permissions
[07:24] <lightbright> hi
[07:24] <cafuego> lightbright: that was a short nap
[07:24] <[linner] > dabaR, i can't ... it's all greyed out
[07:24] <[linner] > lightbright, hello :)
[07:24] <lightbright> how can I install something similar to k3b?
[07:24] <german> hi lightbright
[07:24] <robert11> Ahh. So a temp fstab while on
[07:24] <cafuego> lightbright: sudo apt-get install k3b
[07:24] <lightbright> cafuego: yeah just needed to install cd-rw burning software
[07:25] <lightbright> cafuego: do I need to install whole KDE for that?
[07:25] <robert11> network
[07:25] <lightbright> german: hello :)
[07:25] <cafuego> lightbright: Or simply insert a blank Cd and see what Gnome does :-)
[07:25] <rabeldable> hey linner
[07:25] <dabaR> [linner] : you are not the owner than, use the terminal, with sudo chmod +<whatever permissions you need> /path/file
[07:25] <lightbright> [linner] : hi
[07:25] <[linner] > :)
[07:25] <lightbright> cafuego: what if its not blank and you want to make it blank? :)
[07:25] <[linner] > dabaR, i think i'm just going to open up my network ... this is a pain in the but
[07:25] <[linner] > butt
[07:25] <lightbright> cafuego: is there a GUI similar to k3b?
[07:25] <dabaR> show us
[07:25] <rabeldable> whats the prob, linner?
[07:25] <cafuego> lightbright: Do ya have that option when right-clicking it?
[07:26] <crimsun> [linner] : you just need to edit those two files, and then restart wpasupplicant
[07:26] <[linner] > rabeldable, i have a wpa enabled networked and ndiswrapper won't work
[07:26] <cafuego> lightbright: gnomebaker
[07:26] <[linner] > crimsun, ok i'll try
[07:26] <dabaR> crimsun: omg, you are not really almost done with that supplicant, are you?
[07:26] <crimsun> dabaR: eh?
[07:27] <dabaR> crimsun: do you and [linner]  have it almost working?
[07:27] <lightbright> cafuego: yes
[07:27] <crimsun> dabaR: ...I just started troubleshooting it with her
[07:27] <lightbright> is gnomebaker as good as k3b?
[07:27] <dabaR> crimsun: ok.
[07:27] <[linner] > crimsun, oh i thought you said i just had to edit the file and i was done...
[07:27] <[linner] > bummer
[07:28] <robert11> good night
[07:28] <crimsun> [linner] : well yes, you need to edit those two files and restart wpasupplicant. This means you'll need both ndiswrapper and wpasupplicant working.
[07:28] <robert11> off to break computer
[07:28] <intelikey> hehe good night robert
[07:28] <xtr> GAH. HOw come traceroute don't work?
[07:30] <xtr> Is tracepath the replacement for traceroute?
[07:30] <lightbright> night all
[07:30] <[linner] > crimsun, ok.. so i just edited the /etc/default/wpasupplicant - i just guessed...
[07:30] <dabaR> xtr: install what does not work is step #1
[07:30] <[linner] > and now i'm editing the /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[07:30] <[linner] > but this one i don't have any idea
[07:30] <xtr> Oh.
[07:30] <[linner] > crimsun, is the ssid the wpa key?
[07:30] <dabaR> [linner] : paste what you are not sure of, to pastebin
[07:31] <[linner] > dab
[07:31] <[linner] > ok
[07:31] <rabeldable> linner: here is an example: http://www.dw-itsecurity.de/content/view/67/122/
[07:31] <crgeist> hey guys... can anyone tell me how to fix configure: error: c compiler cannot create executables please?
[07:31] <crimsun> [linner] : there's an example options= line in /etc/default/wpasupplicant
[07:31] <crimsun> crgeist: install 'build-essential'
[07:32] <[linner] > http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4656
[07:32] <[linner] > crimsun, that's the one that's locked
[07:33] <crgeist> crimsun: it says install: too few arguments
[07:33] <[linner] > crimsun, and quite honestly i'm too tired to try and figure out how to unlock it ...
[07:33] <[linner] > i just want to get this bugger online and go to bed
[07:33] <crimsun> [linner] : that default config is for an open network
[07:33] <crimsun> crgeist: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[07:34] <[linner] > crimsun, ok... maybe i'll just do that
[07:34] <[linner] > this is a pain
[07:34] <[linner] > :(
[07:34] <[linner] > crimsun, thank you so much for all your help....
[07:34] <[linner] > i'm sorry to be so cranky
[07:34] <[linner] > g
[07:34] <[linner] > g'night all
[07:34] <khermans> linner
[07:34] <crgeist> crimsun: thanks
[07:34] <khermans> hey, is linner hot?
[07:34] <crimsun> that's way off-topic.
[07:35] <crimsun> crgeist: np
[07:35] <khermans> crimsun, meet me in ubuntu-offtopic to discuss
[07:37] <intelikey> startx is too long  maybe i'll add an alias
[07:38] <khermans> ln -s `which startx` /usr/bin/sx
[07:38] <khermans> or /usr/bin/s3x
[07:41] <GURT> am i not supposed to be able to download w32codecs from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ via synaptic ?
[07:42] <GURT> i get a 403 error and a punch in the face every time i try to
[07:42] <mustard5> GURT, simply adding that url will not give you access no
[07:42] <GURT> well.. i followed the instructions on that page
[07:42] <mustard5> GURT, you would have to add a properly formatted line to your sources.list and add the gpg key
[07:42] <crgeist> sorry, but now it says please, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution
[07:43] <crgeist> what does that mean?
[07:43] <intelikey> i'd guess it is looking for kernel hedders
[07:43] <intelikey> errr headers
[07:43] <GURT> mustard5: i'm pretty sure i added the gpg key correctly.. it said OK when i was done
[07:44] <crgeist> ok, let me see... thanks
[07:44] <mustard5> GURT, you could try the source-o-matic link to add the repo if you really must have it in synaptic.  I wouldn't keep it enabled after you have downloaded what you want though
[07:44] <mustard5> !sources
[07:44] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:44] <GURT> and also.. i downloaded skype from there already
[07:44] <GURT> mustard5: i'll check that out, thanks
[07:44] <mustard5> GURT, it might just be that the server is down
[07:44] <mustard5> GURT, its been getting some heavy use lately
[07:45] <GURT> i can imagine
[07:45] <GURT> thanks
[07:46] <mike4263> man, I was rambling on in the unregged channel
[07:46] <mike4263> I didnt even know they had those
[07:46] <misfit_toy> heh
[07:47] <mike4263> hey, after my monitor suspends my X session; sometimes my usb mouse doesnt come back
[07:47] <mike4263> .  I have to kill X
[07:47] <mike4263> .  i'm running breezy badger
[07:47] <crgeist> i used to use ubuntu a while ago.. what happened to aptget?
[07:47] <crgeist> or apt-get
[07:47] <mike4263> nothin
[07:47] <mike4263> its still there
[07:47] <Madpilot> crgeist: nothing - but GAI or Synaptic are cool
[07:47] <mike4263> aptitude is alright
[07:48] <mike4263> kind of confusing interface
[07:48] <crgeist> im trying to install the kernel headers
[07:48] <sethk> 'evening, all.  I'm considering loading ubuntu on this laptop, because it manages to find the wireless network on this laptop (the other distros don't).  After I load it, though, I have none of the X development support files.  Is there an apt-get, or some other command, that will load up the X development stuff as one big group?
[07:48] <mike4263> anybdoy have any idea about the mouse?
[07:48] <crgeist> does anyone know the command?
[07:48] <sethk> mike4263, does disconnecting/reconnecting help?
[07:48] <sethk> crgeist, there is a catagory for kernel headers in synaptic
[07:49] <mike4263> ha, never tried
[07:49] <crgeist> sethk, let me see
[07:49] <mike4263> i never really had anything of importance open
[07:49] <sethk> mike4263, worth a try
[07:49] <mike4263> i use my laptop mostly these days
[07:49] <mike4263> i usually only run webpages and aim on this box, client side that this
[07:49] <sethk> mike4263, I've had that problem with fedora and disconnecting/reconnecting usually gets the mouse back
[07:49] <mike4263> cool
[07:49] <sethk> mike4263, I mostly see the problem when I use my KVM switch, though.
[07:50] <mike4263> can i specify usb mouses in X config?
[07:50] <mike4263> how do I use ATI drivers?
[07:50] <misfit_toy> mike4263, if it has a center wheel on it, give it a few scrolls, that might wake it up as well
[07:50] <intelikey> !ati
[07:50] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[07:50] <mike4263> ya
[07:50] <dabaR> ubotu: tell mike4263 about ati
[07:50] <mike4263> cool
[07:51] <mike4263> how do the ubuntu version numbers work?
[07:51] <misfit_toy> year.month
[07:51] <mike4263> ah
[07:51] <rob1> seth_k, just use apt-get/synaptic to install them
 can i specify usb mouses in X config?  <--- yes and if you run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg '  it will ask you about the mouse when it gets to that part.
[07:52] <rob1> or sethk rather
[07:52] <senectus> I'm trying to setup an instant "redirect" so that when someone browses to www.domainname.com it forwards them to /var/www/wp/index.php but I don't want to change my "root" directory from /var/www/ ??
[07:53] <intelikey> senectus symlink ?
[07:53] <sethk> senectus, you can do that in the apache configuration by treating it as a virtual domain
[07:53] <sethk> senectus, it will work fine even if it isn't really virtual
[07:53] <sethk> senectus, or a link as intelikey suggested is probably a simpler solution
[07:53] <intelikey> ln -s /var/www/ /var/www/wp/   ?
[07:54] <senectus> what you mean "ln -s /var/www/wp/yadda.php /var/www/yadda.htm" ?
[07:54] <intelikey> i was thinking the whole dir.  but what ever works.
[07:55] <sethk> senectus, the directory is definitely the way to go
[07:55] <sethk> senectus, although apache can at times be bitchy about directory links.
[07:56] <sethrd> df -h
[07:56] <sethrd> Oops, wrong window.
[07:56] <dooglus> is it possible to have 2 different IP addresses in the same local subnet with a single LAN card?
[07:56] <intelikey> heh ls -s ////////////////////////sbin/chroot //var/www/wp/blah.html     lol
[07:57] <dducko> be back shortly... hopefully...
[07:57] <sethk> back in a bit, thanks, everyone
[07:58] <crgeist> i get this error when trying to configure: Please, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution
[07:58] <crgeist> or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel
[07:58] <crgeist> sources (default is /usr/src/linux).
[07:58] <crgeist> kernel headers are installed
[07:58] <crgeist> can anyone help me please?
[07:59] <dooglus> crgeist: does /usr/src/linux exist?
[07:59] <crgeist> no, what should be the default?
[07:59] <mustard5> crgeist, I think you are looking for a package like linux-source-yourkernelversion  where your kernel version is determined by uname -r
[07:59] <dooglus> crgeist: make a link from /usr/src/linux to linux-2.6.12 or wherever the sources are
[08:00] <dooglus> mustard5: he only needs the headers, not the whole sources
[08:00] <crgeist> im a newbie.. i dont know much
[08:00] <mustard5> dooglus, k
[08:00] <dooglus> crgeist: you using breezy?
[08:01] <dabaR> dooglus: man ifconfig: interface - The name of the interface.  This is usually a driver  name  followed  by a unit number, for example eth0 for the first Ethernet interface. If your kernel supports  alias  interfaces,  you  can specify  them  with  eth0:0 for the first alias of eth0. You can use them to assign a second address. To delete an  alias  interface use ifconfig eth0:0 down aliases are deleted, if you delete the first (primary).
[08:01] <crgeist> dooglus: yes
[08:01] <dducko> sudo apt-get instal linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:01] <crgeist> 5.10
[08:01] <dducko> Thats the back ticks on the ~ key not ' with the "
[08:02] <dducko> Installing Nvidia crgeist?
[08:02] <crgeist> alsa
[08:02] <dooglus> crgeist: looks like the kernel headers are in /usr/include, not /usr/src/linux
[08:02] <crgeist> alsa drivers for the sound card
[08:02] <crgeist> its a laptop
[08:02] <mustard5> dducko, is this valid too, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) ?
[08:03] <crgeist> thanks guys, im going to try both
[08:03] <dducko> I dotn know, I know the other way works.. did it a couple times
[08:03] <dooglus> mustard5: I might have been wrong there - looking at his error message maybe he does need the full sources
[08:03] <dducko> I can try hang on, just expiermenting in this install right now
[08:04] <mustard5> dducko, I just ran that command I put up too. it seems to work
[08:04] <dabaR> mustard5: yes, its variable substitution, it seems.
[08:04] <dducko> mustard5, yep it works
[08:04] <aftertaf> hi all :)
[08:04] <mustard5> cool
[08:04] <dducko> hello aftertaf
[08:04] <mustard5> I have had trouble remembering that one :)
[08:04] <mustard5> hey aftertaf !
[08:04] <dabaR> its the ` of variables:P
[08:04] <intelikey> aftertaf
[08:05] <dducko> Im realitively new anyway, just pick up stuff like that, cause its easier, and seems more like the Linux way
[08:05] <mustard5> dducko, same here ;)
[08:05] <dabaR> dducko: Unix...
[08:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> how easy/difficult is it to use two monitors in ubuntu?
[08:05] <crgeist> mustard5: thanks, that worked
[08:05] <dducko> yeah yeah..
[08:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> is it as simple as specifying the output device to mplayer?
[08:07] <aftertaf> hey all 3 of yas ;)
[08:07] <dducko> mustard5, went from pure winxp to pure Ubuntu (Hoary) on August 29
[08:07] <aftertaf> yeah dducko  :) good move
[08:07] <_native_> so helix player doesnt acutally play the standard real formats?
[08:08] <crimsun> _native_: it can't
[08:08] <_native_> thats is so stupid!
[08:08] <aftertaf> lol too true
[08:08] <mustard5> dducko, I went from win98se to Hoary in June.   :)
[08:08] <crimsun> _native_: those formats require real.com's proprietary codecs that are only distributed with realplayer
[08:08] <_native_> fake opensource
[08:08] <Gunlance> Hey all ! So here's my wacky problem. I just installed Ubuntu and once everything has loaded...I get a screen that is full of a lot of colors like a video error any ideas...
[08:08] <dducko> I thought so.. now im breaking stuff trying to mess around with a dapper install, kind  of thrilling... i really need to get a life..
[08:08] <dabaR> Gunlance: what laptop?
[08:09] <mustard5> dducko, heheh you sound as bad as me..I'm on dapper atm too
[08:09] <Gunlance> hehe, no laptop a PC
[08:09] <aftertaf> dducko:  qemu or debootstrap
[08:09] <dducko> You lost me there...
[08:09] <dducko> whats qemu?
[08:09] <aftertaf> !info qemu
[08:09] <_native_> its so frusterating that most site like npr.org only provide their content in real formats.
[08:09] <ubotu> qemu: (fast processor emulator), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 0.7.0-4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1783 kB, Installed size: 5332 kB
[08:09] <_native_> *sites
[08:09] <mustard5> Gunlance, what vid card?
[08:09] <JonasNZ> i can get my acpi sleep to work, but when i wake the computer up the machine hangs with a blank screen any ideas?
[08:09] <Gunlance> XFX 6600GT 128mb AGP 8x
[08:09] <dducko> Yeah, still lost..
[08:09] <aftertaf> lol
[08:10] <intelikey> Gunlance  [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]   and login   then 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg '
[08:10] <aftertaf> dducko:  its a sort of virtual machine...
[08:10] <_native_> oh well npr.org is run by the CPB which is now becoming a mouthpiece for the B admin.
[08:10] <dducko> ahh ok.. If you say so.
[08:10] <Gunlance> when do I do press those keys?
[08:10] <dducko> I just wish I could get my Nvidia drivers installed.. heh.. all kinds of pains..
[08:10] <mustard5> Gunlance ctrl + alt + f7 to get back ;)
[08:11] <intelikey> that is how to reconfigure your Xorg  yes Gunlance
[08:11] <aftertaf> dducko:  i d/led a live cd iso and ran it qwith qemu cd.iso and it ran the cd as if i had booted on it :)
[08:11] <Gunlance> er, yeah, but when do I press those keys
[08:11] <hussam> how do I backport a simple application using the .dsc file? I downloaded the orig.tar.gz , the .diff.gz and the .dsc for that application. now how do I build the deb?
[08:11] <Gunlance> to start configuring Xorg
[08:11] <dducko> ahh Ok..
[08:11] <crimsun> hussam: you use pbuilder.
[08:11] <mustard5> Gunlance, try now...go in and come back
[08:11] <intelikey> first.
[08:11] <dducko> I had a second hardrive in here, did a fresh Breezy Install and did a dist-upgrade
[08:11] <Gunlance> right when ubuntu is starting?
[08:11] <intelikey> from the pretty colour screen
[08:12] <_native_> i need some opinions on media players.
[08:12] <dducko> Still have my other Breezy install on the Big drive
[08:12] <mustard5> Gunlance, no right where you are now
[08:12] <pdk> wheee
[08:12] <Gunlance> heh, ah ok, I can not get there right now (dual boot machine in winxp pro right now)
[08:12] <pdk> trying to install ubuntu 50 million times is so fun :D
[08:12] <aftertaf> anything new in breezy worth sending a postcard to my mum about??? :] 
[08:12] <pdk> should i be worried
[08:13] <pdk> if it's just sitting there on the "uncompressing linux..." part and the cd drive's light turns off?
[08:13] <mustard5> Gunlance, its better if you run the command before X has started
[08:13] <intelikey> Gunlance [alt] +[f7]  is the gui     and [ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace]   resets X
[08:13] <dducko> i wasnt on Hoary longe enoug aftertaf to tell ya.
[08:13] <aftertaf> pdk:  ahve you checked the md, of your iso, tried burning at a low speed
[08:13] <mustard5> Gunlance, oh ok :)
[08:13] <pdk> i have no idea how to check md5sums
[08:13] <aftertaf> doh doh doh. i meant anything new in dapper :)
[08:13] <dducko> You in linux pdk
[08:14] <mustard5> Gunlance, you writing all this down? ;)
[08:14] <dducko> Havent played around with it much yet.
[08:14] <dducko> md5sum name.iso  (if your in linux)
[08:14] <aftertaf> salut keikoz  :] 
[08:14] <mustard5> aftertaf, I have a fade to black gksudo prompt...thats my most noticeable change so far
[08:14] <keikoz> :)
[08:14] <dducko> Is that what that is?
[08:15] <dducko> Annoying as hell I think..
[08:15] <mustard5> hehe
[08:15] <aftertaf> loool
[08:15] <grace_> im trying to copy the directory of w32codecs over to /usr/lib/win32 but I get a permission denied. is there a ctrl key combo i can use for drag and drop via gui
[08:15] <Gunlance> mustard5: yes, thats why I have not typed till now -_^
[08:15] <mustard5> I think its kinda cool :)
[08:15] <pdk> dducko: nope
[08:16] <intelikey> mysql's default dir ?
[08:16] <Gunlance> uhm, one Q, what do I do have sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[08:16] <dducko> Not sure how to do it in windows,  think you have to download a program, im sure.. Try burning the cd at a slower rate then your max.  8x is a  good bet
[08:16] <grace_> like to enable a sudo copy or somewthing
[08:16] <Gunlance> what do I do after*
[08:16] <aftertaf> whats the pb Gunlance  ?
[08:17] <mustard5> Gunlance, can you connect to the internet via command line?
[08:17] <melong> ok. trying to play with samba here
[08:17] <pc22> how do i run tightvnc?
[08:17] <melong> is there a GUI that will allow me to mount a windows share? becuase command line just does NOT want to mount
[08:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> melong nautilus
[08:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> the file manager
[08:17] <melong> i do smbtree... i SEE the share but when i try to mount it to any folder it just doesn't work
[08:18] <JonasNZ> any ideas why after i suspend to ram (s3) and resume the computer hangs on a blank screen
[08:18] <Gunlance> aftertag: what is pb? mustard5: Yeah I can connect to the internet while in command line...at least it did fine when accessing FTP's while installing Ubuntu
[08:18] <melong> the file manager?
[08:18] <melong> hmm i can swear i looked
[08:18] <pdk> ok then
[08:18] <pdk> where are the md5sum lists?
[08:18] <mustard5> Gunlance, well when you run sudo dpkgblahblah it will ask you a whole lot of questions about how you want to reconfigure your display....for the most part you just choose the option that is already there by default
[08:19] <Gunlance> hmm ok, but you know when you are installing Ubuntu, and at one point it asks you about the resolution?
[08:19] <intelikey> Gunlance in tty2 open irssi  cli chat client  :)
[08:19] <mustard5> Gunlance, why ask about connecting to the internet via command line is that you could get on irc and ask questions from terminal using irssi
[08:19] <Gunlance> I left that default, is that going to show up again?
[08:19] <choudesh> Anyway for apt-get source * to automatically put it in /usr/src?
[08:19] <Gunlance> oh oops
[08:19] <Gunlance> lol
[08:19] <Gunlance> never done that before
[08:20] <N6REJ> anyone know where mysql keeps its databases in Breezy?
[08:20] <aftertaf> mustard5:  what about the phigh flag with xserver, that reconfigs in autodiscover mode i think
[08:20] <mustard5> Gunlance, once you get the desktop visible you can work on those final configuration problems
[08:20] <aftertaf> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:20] <Gunlance> kk
[08:20] <mustard5> aftertaf, yeah true
[08:20] <pc22> hi mustard5
[08:20] <melong> yeah still no go
[08:20] <Gunlance> aftertaf you talking about my problem?
[08:20] <intelikey> aftertaf why phigh ?
[08:20] <mustard5> aftertaf, I'm wondering about wether he is going to shut down the X server correctly
[08:20] <melong> i did a connect to server
[08:20] <intelikey> i like plow
[08:21] <mustard5> hey pc22
[08:21] <melong> its the direct path.. it should work.. but it says it cannot access it
[08:21] <mustard5> Gunlance, if you were on irc in terminal we could walk you through it anyway
[08:21] <Gunlance> ok
[08:21] <Gunlance> so to make ultra sure
[08:21] <intelikey> Gunlance yes he is.   the -phigh makes it only ask on things that it can't default.
[08:22] <Gunlance> how do I run irssi?
[08:22] <aftertaf> mustard5:  i ran that same cmd yesterday and it reconfiged my xserver and restarted the WM without closing down :) sweet
[08:22] <intelikey> irssi
[08:22] <Gunlance> k
[08:22] <mustard5> just type irssi in terminal
[08:22] <intelikey>  /server irc.freenode.net
[08:22] <mustard5> then you need to connect to here ;)
[08:22] <Gunlance> cya'all in a bit hopefully
[08:22] <intelikey>  /j #ubuntu
[08:23] <grace_> if nautalous is so fabulous how come it is not the defaul file manager
[08:23] <mustard5> Gunlance, that is /join #ubuntu
[08:23] <aftertaf> grace_:  in gnome it is...
[08:23] <intelikey> mustard5 join not aliased in ub's irssi ?
[08:23] <mustard5> heheh..I reckon we have totally confused Gunlance now :)
[08:23] <grace_> well then I must be utilizing nautilous to do this file copy then
[08:23] <mustard5> intelikey, they are
[08:24] <mustard5> intelikey, I have a habit of typing them out in full
[08:24] <intelikey> oh
[08:24] <grace_> nautalous 2.12 it is
[08:24] <N6REJ> is anyone running mysql?
[08:24] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  yoursql? no, im running my own...
[08:24] <intelikey> thought i was getting corrected again mustard5, i'm so used to that.
[08:24] <mustard5> intelikey, i was just typing at the same time as you and hit enter without seeing your reply ;)
[08:24] <N6REJ> :P @ aftertaf!
[08:24] <grace_> how can I copy to a permissions denied directory space via sudo or something using nautalous for drag and drop
[08:25] <aftertaf> hahaha i'm a comic !! :P
[08:25] <N6REJ> I need to know where mysql stores its default databases
[08:25] <N6REJ> or should say, databases by default
[08:25] <aftertaf> N6REJ:  synaptic'll show ya if you examine properties
[08:25] <mustard5> grace_, I think you can type gksudo nautilus in terminal
[08:25] <intelikey> grace_ terminal > sudo nautilus
[08:25] <N6REJ> aftertaf: can't, in middle of complete rebuild... long story :(
[08:25] <dducko> grace_, one way... yeah what mustard5 said
[08:25] <intelikey> mustard5  :)
[08:25] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there any command line program one can run to make an app start up in a specified workspace?
[08:25] <aftertaf> erf
[08:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> like "workspacestart 3 command"
[08:26] <aftertaf> BROKEN_LADDER:  i.e; in a virtual desktop? no idea
[08:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> in gnome
[08:26] <grace_> hm
[08:26] <N6REJ> BROKEN_LADDER:  you mean like in a particular window?
[08:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> since gnome sessions still kinda suck, it would be nice to be able to force windows to open in the right work space
[08:26] <mustard5> hehe I have the same kind of days sometimes...everything I type out someone has a different or better answer for...I hate those days ;)
[08:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> N6REJ i mean start a particular program in a particular workspace
[08:27] <intelikey> grace_ if you cp/mv anything to $HOME you will probably want to chown it too...
[08:27] <N6REJ> BROKEN_LADDER: put it in the desktop area that you want it to be in and save your configuration on logout... it will then ALWAYS be there :D
[08:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> N6REJ not for apps that don't explicitly support sessioning.  gnome won't force them.  i have to specify them to even have them open.
[08:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> gnome is behind kde by leaps and bounds in this regard.
[08:28] <N6REJ> :(
[08:28] <aftertaf> desktop war ! ! ! !
[08:28] <N6REJ> lol
[08:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> kde only has a few things on gnome.  and it's ugly as all hell
[08:28] <bob2> yay for subjective opinions
[08:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> i've _tried_ so hard to make kde not be ugly.  but there's not a single decent icon theme for it that's not.
[08:28] <aftertaf> yay bob2  :)
[08:29] <intelikey> desktop war ?    twm  all the way
[08:29] <_native_> KDE is ugly! gtk rules.
[08:29] <aftertaf> EEEEEEEEEE
[08:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> oh come now bob2 , how subjective is it really?  i mean..paisley?  who can honestly argue that it's not ugly?
[08:29] <aftertaf> BROKEN_LADDER:  i can. i prefer kde to gnome....
[08:29] <hussam> crimsun: thanks
[08:29] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: blah blah you not liking the colour of something does not make it subjectively ugly
[08:30] <bob2> er, objectively
[08:30] <bob2> anyway
[08:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> aftertaf okay, but it's still ugly.
[08:30] <_native_> gnome looks clean, light, logical etc...
[08:30] <aftertaf> back on topic, eh? ;)
[08:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> aftertaf i know kde has some features gnome doesn't.
[08:30] <bob2> I promised myself I wouldn't get into a stupid argument with BROKEN_LADDER TODAY SO I WILL NOT
[08:30] <aftertaf> beauty is in the eye of the beholder
[08:30] <aftertaf> looooool bob2  :] 
[08:30] <_native_> yeah topic change. ;-] 
[08:30] <bob2> I WILL JUST TALK POLITELY AND TRY TO MAINTAIN AN OBJECTIVE OPINOIN ON THE COLOUR SCHEMES OF VARIOUS BITS OF SOFTWARE I DO NOT USE
[08:30] <bob2> I HOPE THAT IS OK WITH YOU ALL
[08:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> _native_ it looks more elegant i think.  more sophisticated, especially with my modified clearlooks theme.  i have nice square corners with white window bars
[08:30] <aftertaf> i cant install ubuntu onto my toaster, when i insert the cd it justs melts... anyone help? :] 
[08:31] <_native_> man #ubuntu-hardened is always empty
[08:31] <intelikey> and !   kde is so easy to change the colour/back ground, look what is ugly about it ?
[08:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> aftertaf lol
[08:31] <bob2> anyway, no one cares what any of you think about kde's colour scheme
[08:31] <bob2> to be blunt
[08:31] <bob2> so, #ubuntu-offtopic, or drop it
[08:31] <aftertaf> __ /j #ubuntu-desktopwars
[08:31] <bob2> even better
[08:32] <_native_> i like a desktop that feels light, looks light but has all the features and for me thats gnome with a custom metabox2 theme.
[08:32] <_native_> and unneccesary apps uninstalled.
[08:32] <intelikey> aftertaf you're the third person with the toaster question today....
[08:33] <aftertaf> intelikey:  ahhh so its a bug then?
[08:33] <intelikey> :)
[08:33] <_native_> yo yo
[08:33] <_native_> ;p
[08:34] <Xcerca> hey
[08:34] <dvius> yo
[08:35] <dvius> welcome :P
[08:35] <bob2> Xcerca: please try avoiding be an ass in here, too, thanks.
[08:35] <Xcerca> lol
[08:35] <Xcerca> thanks bob
[08:35] <bob2> thanks.
[08:35] <dvius> hehe
[08:35] <Xcerca> i'm new,  give me a break
[08:35] <dvius> i got some issues... could I pls ask for some help?
[08:35] <intelikey> he just did.
[08:35] <bob2> Xcerca: no, you were told precisely where to go for help (here) AND given a url to the answer
[08:35] <bob2> then you proceeded to be highly rude
[08:36] <aftertaf> anyway..................  if you have problems with your ubuntu ask your questions, we'll try to answer
[08:36] <Xcerca> your right
[08:36] <bob2> aftertaf: smooth!
[08:36] <drcode> hi all
[08:36] <ctd> i'm disapointed with the sneaking of on-topic'ness in this channel.
[08:36] <aftertaf> ;) bob2
[08:36] <dvius> I really like ubuntu, but I find that even though it's based on debian alot of debian stuff dont work... i'm a total noob, so maybe I'm just not understanding, but here goes...
[08:37] <bob2> ctd: quick, beg people for same name services
[08:37] <bob2> er, "some name servers"
[08:37] <intelikey> no dvius you can not get permission to ask questions......   describe your issue concisely and wait.
[08:37] <aftertaf> dvius:  1) dont use debian based apt packages
[08:37] <aftertaf> called, no reply, will try later
[08:37] <ctd> bob2: i'm waiting for canonical to decide to sponsor me with some
[08:37] <drcode> any recommand web mail ?
[08:37] <aftertaf> da-n+
[08:37] <ctd> :)
[08:37] <aftertaf> wr6ng *c .)
[08:37] <ctd> drcode: squirrelmail ?
[08:37] <bob2> ctd: fair enough
[08:37] <aftertaf> let me start again. wrong pc, sorry
[08:37] <Xcerca> is there an su enable that you have to do,  i set it up during install but now it keeps telling me i have the wrong password
[08:37] <drcode> I install dovecot
[08:38] <drcode> is there recommand web mail
[08:38] <bob2> Xcerca: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:38] <Zukero> drcode : gmail
[08:38] <bob2> Xcerca: now, actually read that, since it explains the solution to your problem
[08:38] <Xcerca> thx
[08:38] <dvius> Is Ubuntu based on Debian? how much? Why do aommands like #dpkg not work?
[08:38] <aftertaf> Xcerca:  which means the password you put in is your user p/w (unless you chose expert install??)
[08:38] <dvius> *command
[08:39] <Zukero> dpkg works
[08:39] <Xcerca> bob2:  you've been better to me than i have you...
[08:39] <ctd> drcode: squirrelmail tends to work  nicely
[08:39] <intelikey> dvius man dpkg          it does work.
[08:39] <aftertaf> dvius:  it does work, you have all the same things you find in debian... just dont use debian repositories in ubuntu....
[08:39] <Zukero> dvius : ubuntu is fully based on debian, but it uses its own packages
[08:39] <Madpilot> dvius: if you've got a stock Ubuntu install, you'll have to do "sudo dpkg <etc>"
[08:39] <dvius> mmmm. I'll try again. Is the syntax "#dpkg" or "dpkg" ?
[08:39] <Zukero> dpkg
[08:39] <aftertaf> dvius:  you sure dpkg dont work on your system? did you do a minuimum install or bork something?
[08:40] <drcode> trhanx
[08:40] <dvius> mmm, that explains alot... hahahaha...thanx!!
[08:40] <drcode> I will try it
[08:40] <dvius> i did full install. I tried "#dpkg" I just followed another website's instructions to the letter when trying to instal
[08:41] <dvius> another package
[08:41] <Juhaz> # is a comment character, it tells shell to ignore everything that comes after it, so no doubt #dpkg will work less than optimally
[08:41] <aftertaf> dvius:  my guess is that was supposed to represent the prompt ;)
[08:41] <dvius> hehe. CLICK!
[08:41] <ctd> dvius: the "#" in webpages usually refers to being root.
[08:41] <dvius> FINALLY!! thak you so much!!!
[08:41] <aftertaf> lol
[08:42] <dducko> Hmm..  THink Im gonna head back over to my Breezy install.. its prettier.. heh.. Gotta set this up later..
[08:42] <dvius> i;m not dumb, just a total noob to linux. I am currently in the process of setting myself free from the evil winblows
[08:42] <dvius> thanx...a
[08:42] <aftertaf> dvius:  you're in the right place then ;)
[08:42] <dvius> cool!
[08:43] <dragoran> hi
[08:44] <Xcerca> does anybody in here have a fan controler ?
[08:44] <Xcerca> i just installed mine and i think they're pretty cool
[08:44] <Xcerca> no noise.....
[08:44] <dvius> I can't get my audio apps to function the way I would like. I finally found Win32 codecs and installed it to the right directory. When I run Mplayer it says evrything is fine and then just before its suppose to start playing the stream it throws an error?
[08:44] <dragoran> i have problems with gnome-terminal, when i create a new TAB content of that TAB is blank(black), but when i send some keystrokes, it writes them, but i see then just when i switch tab to first created tab and back.. why? its  very big problem for me..
[08:44] <dducko> Much Prettier..
[08:45] <Xcerca> what mp3 player do most peopl use ?
[08:45] <dvius> good q
[08:45] <dducko> xmms
[08:45] <bob2> dvius: no one can guess unless you show us the error (not here)
[08:45] <aftertaf> bmp
[08:45] <aftertaf> dvius:  try running mplayer from console, see if it chucks an error message in the output
[08:45] <dragoran> kk
[08:45] <dvius> mmmm, what you cant read minds?! :P thanx...just a sec..
[08:45] <dducko> !tell Xcerca about mp3
[08:46] <intelikey> dvius when describing a problem you need to always specify the exact error if possable.
[08:46] <germancito> mp3
[08:46] <germancito> thats a problem
[08:46] <germancito> hahaha
[08:46] <aftertaf> germancito:  for you maybe :P
[08:46] <germancito> hahaa
[08:47] <dragoran> can someone help me please?
[08:47] <germancito> aftertaf, yeah, i'm sure it's just for me ;)
[08:47] <Stormx2> dragoran: With?
[08:47] <aftertaf> gnometerminal pb.... no idea
[08:47] <Xcerca> i really just need to get my sound card working first....
[08:47] <Xcerca> is it true that if new hardware comes out then it takes a while untill somone makes it compatible w/ linux ?
[08:47] <dragoran> Stormx2, fine and then just before its suppose to start playing the stream it throws an error?
[08:47] <dragoran> dragoran i have problems with gnome-terminal, when i create a new TAB content of that TAB is blank(black), but when i send some keystrokes, it writes them, but i see then just when i switch tab to first created tab and back.. why? its  very big problem for me..
[08:47] <bob2> Xcerca: not in general
[08:47] <aftertaf> Xcerca:  true, cos they need to write, test and improve the drivers
[08:48] <dragoran> copy and paste sucks :(
[08:48] <intelikey> dragoran don't ask for help,  describe the problem; include any error message and wait for a sujested fix.
[08:48] <dragoran> yeah.. ok
[08:49] <Madpilot> so gnome-open has decided that .torrent files should be opened by GEdit rather than GnomeTorrent - how do I switch it back again?
[08:49] <Xcerca> sure,     because the drivers that creative suggests for the audigy 4 is the same as for the audigy 2...   so i thought mabey there would be a conflict there
[08:49] <Stormx2> dragoran: I havn't ever had that problem.#
[08:49] <dvius> mmm, ok. for now it can't resolve the host, which is a complete different error, so I'll have to look into that one and get back later...
[08:49] !lilo:*! Services is being restarted in a moment to restore a backup record for a channel. This should not take long. Thanks in advance for your patience, and thank you for using freenode!
[08:49] <aftertaf> it is me being lam3 or does the default kernel not have apm support enabled (hence error message saying this when you run apm) ?
[08:49] <pitillo> hi, anyone know if the installcd of ubuntu load by default the same modules or kernel like the livecd?
[08:49] <germancito> good night to everyone, its time to sleep
[08:50] <Madpilot> ... never mind, figured it out...
[08:50] <dragoran> and then i have Fujitsu Siemend Amilo 7645 and when i close lid of my laptop, whole X freezes, blank screen and so.. i must shut the laptop hardly off
[08:51] <intelikey> dragoran i sujest installing a diferent terminal.   xterm maybe   and see if it does the same or fixes the problem.
[08:51] <dvius> I have a major issue with Nvida too...i install the latest drivers (from website) EXACTLY the way Ubuntuguide suggests and when I press (Ctrl + alt + backspace) it throws me out of X and gives me erros messages. are there any known issues with the latest kernel or anything? I can't paste the errors, cause I reinstalled my system
[08:51] <dragoran> intelikey, hmm apt-get instal xterm<
[08:51] <intelikey> dragoran that was for the first error ^
[08:51] <bob2> dvius: best to ignore the ubuntuguide
[08:51] <intelikey> yes
[08:51] <bob2> dvius: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:51] <dvius> tru?
[08:52] <dvius> ive treated that as my Alpha and omega so no wonder shit aint happening for me
[08:52] <dragoran> intelikey, but i cant do things with xterm which i can in gnome-terminal
[08:53] <intelikey> eterm   aterm  ?
[08:54] <BlueEagle> ...and how do I start proftpd? o.O
[08:55] <Lathiat> BlueEagle: sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd start
[08:55] <dvius> how do i know if I have a legacy card??
[08:55] <dts> I want to set up an account that i'm only going to be ssh'ing into via public key
[08:55] <dts> can i somehow not even set a password at all?
[08:55] <bob2> dvius: what card do you have?
[08:55] <BlueEagle> lathiat: ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd.
[08:56] <dragoran> intelikey, mmm... gnome-terminal .. :)
[08:56] <bob2> dts: passwd -l foo, I think
[08:56] <Lathiat> BlueEagle: sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[08:56] <bob2> BlueEagle: it runs as soon as it is installed
[08:56] <dvius> geforce mx460 as far as i remember or the model after that
[08:56] <dts> bob2 lemme try
[08:56] <BlueEagle> lathiat: I ain't got /etc/init.d/inetd
[08:56] <intelikey> dragoran try eterm maybe
[08:58] <dragoran> intelikey, i installed it but no binary ... /bin/eterm .. nothing..
[08:58] <aftertaf> dts:  if you set it up to use a key with ssh, you setup your passphrase once only, then all is good :)
[08:59] <aftertaf> dragoran:  run it as Eterm
[08:59] <dvius> got it... Nvidia Geforce mx420
[08:59] <dvius> *Geforce4 MX420
[09:00] <aftertaf> dvius:  word of advice, remove those drivers and use the ubuntu packaged ones, its a lot simpler :)
[09:00] <aftertaf> dvius:  you have the exact same card as me and i dont use legacy
[09:00] <intelikey> dragoran it wont be in bin.     just type 'which eterm '   if you need to know where it is.
[09:01] <aftertaf> dvius:  use the --uninstall flag on the nvidia .run package then follow the nvidia link from ubotu
[09:01] <aftertaf> dvius:  and dop you have the right kernel package in stalled? whats your processor?
[09:01] <dvius> i haven't installed nvidia drivers cause i used apt-get install nvidia-settings and apt-get install nvidia-glx and it stuffd up.....
[09:01] <dvius> processor: AMD XP1800+
[09:02] <dvius> kernel..how do I check again? *blush*
[09:02] <RixiM> uname -a?
[09:02] <dragoran> intelikey, which eterm output nothing..
[09:02] <RixiM> i'm having serious display problems...
[09:03] <RixiM> on a default install of X. on a sony vgn-s460
[09:03] <intelikey> hmmmm and you used 'sudo apt-get install eterm '  and it said it installed the package dragoran
[09:03] <dvius> aftertaf: I reinstalled my system again and haven't tried any nvidia packages since... should I follow "binarydriverHowto" advice a
[09:03] <aftertaf> dvius:  type sudo apt-get install linux-k7 and let it download away... then reboot with the k7 kernel :] 
[09:03] <dvius> ah! just a sec..
[09:04] <RixiM> right now firefox doesn't display any words, everything else works fine in it...
[09:04] <aftertaf> dvius:  and then follow the howto for the restricted packages containing nvidia drivers, yeah :)
[09:04] <aftertaf> RixiM:  a bit useless, that ;)
[09:04] <dvius> why didnt it install or upgrade it automatically?
[09:04] <RixiM> aftertaf, yeha, it is... that's why i'm in here.
[09:05] <RixiM> i had this problem with debian before, but i don't remember how i fixed it.
[09:05] <aftertaf> dvius:  for your kernel? cos linux does what you ask it to ;)
[09:06] <aftertaf> RixiM:  there is a package or two with fonts then you remove a plugin and reinstall it... but i cant remember what, it a bit vague as a reply i know..... :/
[09:06] <dvius> hehe... WHAT this doesnt work like windows???! $hit! hehehehehehehe tru..that's the reason I wanted to be free in the first place.. duh!
[09:06] <aftertaf> hehe
[09:06] <dvius> how would i know that i had to install linux-k7? would the installed not pick that up?
[09:07] <RixiM> pango is giving the error?
[09:07] <dvius> *installer (not installed)
[09:07] <RixiM> (Gecko:8295): Pango-CRITICAL **: pango_cairo_show_glyph_string: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT (font)' failed
[09:07] <dragoran> intelikey, yes i did it
[09:07] <RixiM> do i reinstall pango to fix that?
[09:08] <dvius> Welcome topyli!
[09:08] <intelikey> and eter[tab]    shows ?
[09:08] <topyli> heya
[09:08] <dvius> aftertaf: Im sorry...."restricted packages"??
[09:09] <dducko> !restricted
[09:09] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know what files specify the default theme/settings when a new user starts up?
[09:10] <Gunlance> hey anyone remember my ka-razy xorg problem
[09:10] <dragoran> intelikey, its Eterm not eterm
[09:10] <intelikey> see you can :)
[09:10] <dvius> Hey uboto! thanx!
[09:11] <Madpilot> dvius: ubotu is a bot - hence uBOTu ;)
[09:11] <dragoran> intelikey, eterm does not have tabs
[09:11] <dvius> HEHEHE yea i knew that :P *blush*
[09:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> theora/vorbis/flac yayyy
[09:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> Gunlance which one?
[09:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> i fixed mine by reinstalling instead of upgrading
[09:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm using smeg and it won't change my menu settings
[09:12] <dvius> aftertaf: THANKS HEAPS DUDE!! your a lifesaver. rebooting y maching be back in 5
[09:12] <dvius> hehe. *my machine
[09:12] <Gunlance> Huh mustard5 must not be on...well none of the suggestions worked, and I don't know how to use irssi while configuring Xorg for help
[09:12] <Gunlance> I get to the log-in screen (I JUST installed ubuntu) and it is all weird and green, and a video problem
[09:13] <intelikey> check in the settings.  seems it can have.    and even if it does not have a tab to click you can probably still use ' [shift] +[>]  '   to switch between vc's dragoran
[09:13] <intelikey> don't make me install xterm to prove this..... ;|
[09:14] <Gunlance> My video card is a XFX Geforce 6600GT 128mb AGP8x if that helps
[09:14] <dragoran> intelikey, :(
[09:15] <intelikey> just check if the error is gnome-terminal caused or not dragoran
[09:16] <dducko> Gunlance, What is the Video Error?
[09:16] <dducko> And what Nvidia drivers did you install?
[09:17] <dragoran> intelikey, solving it 2 weeks :)
[09:17] <grace_> kewl I got wmv to work in totem via different route
[09:17] <Gunlance> I have no idea what kind of error it is, I have yet to actually start up the GUI, once I get to the login screen part, the screen gets black bars filld with green
[09:17] <grace_> on amd 64
[09:18] <dducko> Yikes, Gunlance Did you install Nvidia Drivers?  And have you managed to login into a GUI yet?
[09:19] <Gunlance> so somone suggest i reset X...didn't work, and somone suggested 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' that did not work, and also I cannot use CTRL + Alt + F1 to login during the weird video problem...because the text is all blured and I can't see crap
[09:19] <Gunlance> Nope, nothing has been installed but ubuntu
[09:19] <Gunlance> and it is ...ver. 5.04
[09:20] <dducko> Whoa,   You can also use cttl-alt-(f2-f6)
[09:20] <Gunlance> no idea
[09:20] <Gunlance> what does that do
[09:20] <dducko> not just f1
[09:20] <grace_> hmmmmm   check this out  what I did was download both codec essentials and mplayer107pre
[09:20] <dvius> Wooohoooo!!
[09:20] <dducko> Its a different Terminzl
[09:20] <dvius> im back!
[09:21] <dducko> Just like the f1, but most likely wont be messed up.
[09:21] <Gunlance> uh..ok, I guess I could try that
[09:21] <Gunlance> bbl
[09:21] <dducko> Hmm..  So you can have irc running on one, and
[09:21] <dducko> work on another
[09:21] <Gunlance> it's dual boot
[09:21] <dducko> Yeah, figured it was.
[09:22] <dvius> im about to try and install the nvidia drivers... if everything turns to cheese, what could I do to "reinstate" my old driver? or roll back or whatever you call it?
[09:22] <Gunlance> I am in windows right now, but i wrote down the nickserv commands so I can try to use irssi to help troubleshoot
[09:22] <dducko> dvius, From Nvida?
[09:22] <dvius> yeah
[09:22] <dvius> sorry
[09:22] <dducko> You installed K7 kernel already?
[09:22] <intelikey> gunlance how ????  never mind.
[09:22] <dvius> yeah
[09:22] <dducko> Ok, and the Headers for that?
[09:22] <dvius> fast internet connection :P
[09:22] <grace_> then I copied essentials/* to /usr/lib/win32 and
[09:23] <grace_> shite I gotta get the right path
[09:23] <bnD> how goes it tonight gents?
[09:23] <dvius> bnD: great now...finally getting some answers...u?
[09:23] <dducko> dvius, You following a tutorial  off the website?
[09:24] <bob2> ok
[09:24] <bnD> dvius: not bad at all :)
[09:24] <bob2> don't do that
[09:24] <bob2> and please don't advise peopel to do so
[09:24] <grace_> then I copied essentials/* to /usr/lib32/win32
[09:24] <aftertaf> dvius:  if it all goes horrible, you boot to console and edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf   change driver from "nvidia" to "nv"
[09:24] <bob2> dvius: follow wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto backwards
[09:25] <grace_> then I tried to ru nthe mplayer 107 debian/rules but it choked on not finding libpng
[09:25] <dvius> cool...got that...i wont be able to access the net if it all goes to crap, so I just wnna make sure I get it down first..
[09:25] <dvius> thnx
[09:25] <grace_> then I used synaptic to get png the wmv just autoworks
[09:25] <bnD> anyone had troubles with mplayer not zooming? doubling size of player, but video remaining the same?
[09:25] <bob2> grace_: why are you building mplayer at all?
[09:25] <Andypoo> Hmm.. Synapse.. connecting every device all over the world..
[09:25] <grace_> so I download some wmv videos
[09:26] <bob2> bnD: with -vo x11 -zoom -fs?
[09:26] <grace_> to the desktop
[09:26] <grace_> and pictures show up on them
[09:26] <dducko> bob2, hes Wanting to Install Nvidia's drivers
[09:26] <grace_> I double click and it launches totem and plays the video
[09:26] <bob2> dducko: why?
[09:26] <dducko> Not covered on tath page.
[09:26] <bnD> bob2: youve lost me yet again ;) using mplayer how ever it comes by default, and clicking double zoom in the gui :)
[09:26] <bob2> never used the mplayer gui
[09:26] <aftertaf> bnD:  running from console, you have muchas optionadas :)
[09:26] <dvius> hehe. you hardcore bob :P
[09:27] <grace_> even though   mplayer...../debian/rules choked   mplayer still runs but wont open the wmv files
[09:27] <bnD> aftertaf: i see i see ;) well ill try running that from the console next time i spose
[09:27] <bnD> thx bob2
[09:27] <bob2> the solution to your problem is "echo -e 'vo xv\nfs' > ~/.mplayer/config", tho
[09:27] <bnD> ah
[09:27] <bnD> well ill do  that then :)
[09:27] <bob2> grace_: why on earth are yo ucompiling mplayer?
[09:27] <dducko> dvius, just make sure you backup your xorg.conf to begin with.
[09:27] <grace_> i read about mess ing with xine and totem before making it work but I did nt have to
[09:27] <dvius> ok...gonna leave and do the nvidia thing, but I WILL be back...thanx bob2 and dducko!
[09:27] <grace_> no tbothering with mplayer any more
[09:27] <bnD> grace_: why arent you using apt?
[09:27] <dvius> sweet dducko...got that.
[09:28] <grace_> but it was because thats where the w32codecs came from
[09:28] <bnD> good luck dvius
[09:28] <bob2> grace_: you're making this all ridiculously hard
[09:28] <dvius> thanx
[09:28] <dducko> Just head back into here if you have problems too,
[09:28] <aftertaf> dvius:  and write this down too: if it all goes pearshaped, you can : sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[09:28] <grace_> and I want the user of this box to see words similar to MPlayer
[09:28] <aftertaf> you think he got that? :] 
[09:28] <grace_> no it works fine now
[09:28] <dducko> Nope...
[09:28] <grace_> donw easy
[09:29] <aftertaf> dducko:  lol oh well :)
[09:29] <grace_> I think the trick was putting the win32 directory in /usr/lib32/
[09:29] <grace_> cause that is not in any of the instructions I read
[09:29] <bob2> it's not a trick
[09:29] <dducko> The Nvidia install is fun,   real real fun.. I learned all kinds of new things..
[09:29] <bob2> it's just where you're supposed to put them
[09:29] <aftertaf> dducko:  yeah, at least he hasnt got an ATI....
[09:30] <dducko> *shrudders*  *laughs at his paper weight*
[09:30] <aftertaf> rage 128 pro paper weight ? :] 
[09:30] <bnD> i have an ati radeon, is that why when i attempt to run any 3d game.. even pinball :P it plays at a horrrrible frame rate?
[09:31] <bnD> 2fps makes gameplay astoundingly difficult
[09:31] <bob2> bah
[09:31] <dducko> raedeon 9200 128 meg paperweight.
[09:31] <bob2> all this mindless ati bitching is stupid
[09:31] <dducko> lol
[09:31] <aftertaf> but they are nasty to get working.
[09:31] <bob2> bnD: what card?
[09:31] <bnD> i was unaware of an ati issue, my ignorance must be showing
[09:31] <bnD> bob2: a radeon something or rather, im fine for now.. i dont play games much :)
[09:32] <bob2> bnD: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto if you change your mind
[09:32] <bnD> bob2: thanks :)
[09:32] <Aree> Why Re-Writing CD on Gnome Baker ?
[09:32] <bob2> and if it's suported by the ati binary-only drivers
[09:32] <bnD> for now, my mp3's and my anime are the only media i need, and they work just fine
[09:33] <bnD> /cycle
[09:33] <bnD> heh, guess not
[09:34] <Corin_777> bnD, ?
[09:34] <bnD> gaim apparently doesnt support that command Corin_777 ;)
[09:34] <Corin_777> ./cycle works for me....
[09:34] <Corin_777> ok
[09:34] <Corin_777> lol
[09:34] <Corin_777> /cycle
[09:34] <Corin_777> good ole xchat
[09:34] <calebme> hello
[09:34] <calebme> it's Gunlance
[09:34] <bnD> yea, im not sure why ive been using gaim instead
[09:34] <Corin_777> hi
[09:35] <Corin_777> bnD, its nice to have msn
[09:35] <Corin_777> ;)
[09:35] <Corin_777> /cycle
[09:35] <Corin_777> /cycle
[09:35] <bnD> Corin_777: :)
[09:35] <Corin_777> :P
[09:35] <Corin_777> man, my network is f**king up
[09:35] <calebme> so whoever suggested, to try hitting f2 through 6 didn't work text was still all blurred.. D:
[09:35] <Corin_777> (can i say that in here???  do i need the **?)
[09:36] <bnD> Corin_777: foul language is frowned upon :)
[09:36] <Corin_777> /clear
[09:36] <Corin_777> ok
[09:36] <Corin_777> :'(
[09:36] <Corin_777> anyway, it is
[09:36] <Corin_777> :'(
[09:36] <JonasNZ> i have this: 0000:00:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)
[09:36] <JonasNZ> 0000:00:09.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11)
[09:36] <JonasNZ> , what the best tv software to use that has radio support as well
[09:36] <Corin_777> i had a linux server, windows laptop and linux pc, all mucking up for some reason
[09:36] <intelikey> calebme how did you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if you couldn't see anything  ?      and are you in ubunut now ?
[09:36] <Corin_777> JonasNZ, freeview in uk
[09:36] <Corin_777> :P
[09:36] <calebme> yeah, I am in recover mode only way I can get the command line
[09:37] <bnD> Corin_777: you do realize the clear command only works locally :P
[09:37] <JonasNZ> Corin_777, im in Newzealand, pretty much cant get any further away
[09:37] <Corin_777> bnD, yes i know. i also know it doesnt work if you type the '/' twice
[09:37] <Corin_777> :P
[09:38] <calebme> intlikey so any other ideas!
[09:38] <Corin_777> do it once, it clears local screen
[09:38] <Corin_777> do '//clear', it shows '/clear' to all
[09:38] <Corin_777> :P
[09:38] <Corin_777> /hehe
[09:38] <intelikey> ah i see.  well if you reconfig the xserver and enable/disable fb it might still work for you. calebme
[09:38] <calebme> what is fb
[09:38] <Corin_777> /reconfigure
[09:38] <calebme> and last time i tried to do it, nothing worked...i got an error screen
[09:39] <calebme> (tried to configure xorg myself that is)
[09:39] <calebme> omg...why does ubuntu hate me all of the sudden ;_;
[09:40] <intelikey> framebuffer access to the vidio card.      use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg '  and change the settings of how x accesses the vidio calebme
[09:40] <calebme> change what though in how x accesses
[09:41] <intelikey> there is a question it will ask.   read what it asks and answer acordingly
[09:41] <Corin_777> :P
[09:41] <calebme> and uhm...do I have to quit irssi to run the command to config it
[09:41] <intelikey> no
[09:41] <calebme> cool, how do I do that then
[09:41] <intelikey> alt+f3 and open another login session
[09:41] <calebme> and then how do I get back
[09:41] <Corin_777> or alt+f2
[09:41] <Corin_777> :P
[09:41] <dducko> and use alt-f1 to get back
[09:42] <Corin_777> alt+f1 to return
[09:42] <calebme> nice
[09:42] <intelikey> or should i say f#  where #=1-6
[09:42] <Corin_777> alt+[fnum]  takes you to the screen
[09:42] <Corin_777> intelikey, more than 1-6
[09:42] <calebme> j
[09:42] <calebme> uh
[09:43] <Corin_777> juh?
[09:43] <JonasNZ> and 7 goes back to  the gfx session
[09:43] <calebme> alt and an f key isn't doing much
[09:43] <intelikey> or even type 'openvt -c# bash '    where #=8-255
[09:43] <calebme> i am still here
[09:43] <calebme> lol
[09:43] <JonasNZ> ctrl+alt+F[#] 
[09:43] <calebme> oh
[09:43] <intelikey> Corin_777 only if they are already open or enabled in inittab
[09:43] <calebme> dear god..still nothing
[09:44] <ilba7r> anyone know how to change the keyboard layout to write with languages other than english (arabic to be specific)
[09:45] <sampan> anyone know how to kill a process that won't die, even with sudo kill #  ?
[09:45] <Madpilot> sampan: unplug the box?
[09:45] <intelikey> but you may be in "single mode" calebme  'runlevel '   will tell you.   but none the less use 'openvt -c2 bash '   hit alt+f2 viola
[09:46] <Corin_777> ok
[09:46] <bob2> sampan: need to be more specific
[09:46] <bob2> sampan: also, some processes are not killable
[09:46] <Corin_777> intelikey, on my laptop, without inittab, F1-F12 works fine just as alt+F#
[09:47] <intelikey> without inittab lol
[09:47] <sampan> bob2, it's k3b -- it hung up verifying a burned iso image ... the window was unresponsive, it asked if i wanted to terminate the app, i said yes, but it's still in the process list and i can't kill it (which means i can't restart k3b again)
[09:48] <bob2> sampan: seems kinda unlikely k3b is the root cause
[09:48] <bob2> unless it does the verification in-process
[09:48] <bob2> which is posisble, I guess
[09:48] <calebme> back, and FB did not ever come up
[09:49] <grace_> damn Video codec 'Windows Media Video 9' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[09:49] <sampan> bob2  probably right -- while it was verifying, konq came up with an error msg for the dvdrw drive -- nonetheless, my main problem is killing the process (preferably without rebooting)
[09:49] <ilba7r> how to switch the keyboard language ?
[09:49] <intelikey> the question reads something like 'do you want x to access ..... in this way?'   or at least it was in hoary.
[09:50] <calebme> not in any of the text did fb, come up
[09:50] <intelikey> calebme did you answer a question that looked like ^ ?
[09:50] <calebme> uh...no..
[09:51] <aftertaf> grace_:  have you seen restricted?
[09:51] <aftertaf> !tell grace_ about restricted
[09:51] <calebme> hmm let me go through it again I guess
[09:51] <intelikey> hmmmmm   maybe you need to try it with low priorities.
[09:51] <sampan> even killing the stalled konq process on the dvd drive didn't help -- still can't kill k3b ... always heard linux didn't need reboots, but i guess that was a myth? ;)
[09:52] <intelikey> -plow
[09:52] <intelikey> plow and plow deep.
[09:52] <intelikey> :)
[09:53] <aftertaf> sampan:  look for kio processes and kill em off one by one. if it comes to a reboot then doing this wont make a huge deifference
[09:53] <aftertaf> only thing that had me reboot is k3b when a burn borks too.
[09:53] <sampan> :/  :(  ;)
[09:53] <Madpilot> sampan: burn ISOs in Nautilus, it works flawlessly here
[09:54] <aftertaf> k3b works too 99.999999 of the time
[09:54] <aftertaf>  __ /j #ubuntu-desktopwars
[09:54] <intelikey> reboot hmmmm i thought that was a windows thing   :)
[09:54] <aftertaf> :)
[09:54] <sampan> madpilot, (a) i'm using kubuntu and (b) the response of use a different ap is really not encouraging -- k3b (by all accounts) is a marvelous app
[09:55] <sampan> aftertaf  there's two kio_file processes and one kio_uiserver -- should i get just the _file ones or the server too?
[09:55] <calebme> ok!
[09:55] <calebme> yes it is set to "NO"
[09:55] <aftertaf> !lart Madpilot
[09:55] <calebme> it's like kernerl framebuffer something
[09:55] <aftertaf> sampan:  do top and see if any are hogging
[09:55] <intelikey> try it calebme
[09:56] <intelikey> yes fb
[09:56] <calebme> just hit alt + f7 right to?
[09:56] <intelikey> no
[09:56] <sampan> aftertaf, nothing was hogging -- but killing the first kio_file process let me kill the k3b one (what does kio do? -- knowing that will help me remember this trick for future)
[09:56] <aftertaf> kde input output disk slave thingy
[09:56] <calebme> er..wait I should set it to yes?
[09:56] <intelikey> startx  and if it didn't work be prepared to reboot in the dark
[09:56] <intelikey> yes
[09:57] <calebme> oops
[09:57] <intelikey> change it first...
[09:57] <calebme> and then how do I start X?
[09:57] <sampan> ooops, i spoke too soon -- it didn't let me kill k3b
[09:57] <aftertaf> sampan:  sudo init 6 ;)
[09:57] <sampan> typos are my enemy
[09:57] <sampan> lol
[09:58] <aftertaf> sqmpor kill X, that'll sort it. doesnt the kde process sys guard thing show you the preocess and any parent/child processes?
[09:58] <sampan> ugh, and kubuntu update broke my SCIM today too -- not a good day
[09:58] <calebme> how do I start X? and since I am in recover mode..anything else i need to do to make sure it like saves that configuration
[09:59] <aftertaf> calebme:  to start x you type:   startx
[09:59] <aftertaf> :)
[09:59] <intelikey> calebme startx.   you know how to kill x   [ctrl] [alt] [bs]    and reboot [ctrl] [alt] [del]  in the dark...   yes?
[09:59] <calebme> mk, hopefully this works
[09:59] <Madpilot> sampan: OK, I missed that you weren't using Ubuntu; I've used k3b myself and it is good - but (at least in Ubuntu) for ISOs it's not needed anymore
[10:02] <intelikey> welp so much for the mandrake guy, i'm like went already; good day to all, and God bless.
[10:02] <aftertaf> ;)
[10:03] <grace_> well I guess thats the line then, totem and xine can run wmv only upt wm8
[10:03] <grace_> at least it plays dvd movies fine now
[10:03] <dooglus> when I copy a big file from my PC to a windows shared drive, my PC becomes very slow.  Can I somehow 'nice' the copy?  The CPU is mostly idle, so it's not a CPU problem.
[10:04] <grace_> I'll leave real player for a learning experience some other time
[10:04] <aftertaf> grace_:  arent there sopme wm9 packs that read?
[10:04] <calebme> back
[10:04] <grace_> aftertaf, codec packs?
[10:04] <calebme> I got an error this time, it said that no screen was found
[10:05] <dducko> Did you just startx or do a full reboot,  Try a full Reboot once first..
[10:05] <calebme> oh ok
[10:05] <calebme> their a command for reboot?
[10:05] <dducko> sudo reboot
[10:05] <calebme> awsome
[10:05] <grace_> aftertaf, or player
[10:05] <joachim-n> which packages do I need for wine?
[10:06] <aftertaf> packages for codecs i think;
[10:06] <grace_> the number 9 is not on the restrictions page anywhere
[10:06] <aftertaf> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[10:06] <aftertaf> ??
[10:08] <khermans> Anyone try the OEM mode in Ubuntu installer yet?
[10:08] <khermans> how do I access it?
[10:09] <grace_> i just looked over http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/all/ again and still nothing about wmv9
[10:09] <grace_> or other than w32codec
[10:10] <khermans> grace_, thats what you get when you use proprietary codecs
[10:10] <khermans> try w32codecs, and if that fails, yer screwed -- or try vlc
[10:10] <khermans> wmv sucks
[10:10] <khermans> everyone should be using XviD
[10:11] <dducko> G'nite all
[10:11] <SCMark> everyone should use theora
[10:11] <khermans> ehh
[10:11] <afd_> Someone help me with a list of ubuntu repositories?
[10:11] <khermans> pros, cons?
[10:12] <khermans> afd_, you only probably need universe and multiverse
[10:12] <SCMark> http://www.theora.org/
[10:12] <khermans> SCMark, i already know about it
[10:12] <calebme> back and not in recover mode! but this time X failed...and gave me a blue screen with an ok box
[10:12] <khermans> but i dont see why it is such a major advancement over xvid
[10:13] <afd_> is there any way to get firefox 1.5 packages?
[10:13] <Cryptid> wat is the command to delete non empty directories
[10:13] <crimsun> afd_: not an official Ubuntu way yet.
[10:13] <khermans> afd_, maybe from the mozilla site
[10:13] <khermans> Cryptid, rm -rf
[10:13] <SCMark> theora is more xvid is just a codecopen than xvid.  Xvid is an mpeg compression
[10:13] <SCMark> oops.  Didn't delete everything I wrote b4
[10:13] <afd_> will the firefox-gnome package still work with this mozilla firefox official package?
[10:14] <khermans> xvid is mpeg4, yes
[10:14] <khermans> is theora the container format?
[10:14] <SCMark> xvid is a codec.  Theora encompases the entire video compression.
[10:14] <khermans> encompases?
[10:15] <SCMark> xvid is an mpeg codec
[10:15] <khermans> you mean it is a container?
[10:15] <SCMark> theora competes with mpeg
[10:15] <calebme> any other ideas?
[10:15] <brosioz> anyone known how convert .dmg image in iso ? or how to burn on linux ?
[10:15] <khermans> SCMark, how does xvid not compete with mpeg?
[10:15] <khermans> tons of people use xvid rather than divx now
[10:15] <khermans> as they should...
[10:16] <SCMark> mpeg is the container.  xvid is the codec.  Mpeg being not free.  theora is a codec that uses an ogg multimedia container, both of which are free
[10:17] <khermans> SCMark, you are wrong
[10:17] <SCMark> how so
[10:17] <khermans> SCMark, oh o
[10:17] <khermans> yes, you cite the conatiner
[10:17] <calebme> intel you there?
[10:17] <khermans> they are both codecs
[10:17] <marlun> Is it possible to make so that I only select windows if I click on the title bar? I read that somewhere but when I go into System > Preferences > Windows, the option does not seem to be available?
[10:17] <Ekaitza> Hello everybody
[10:18] <calebme> hiya
[10:18] <Ekaitza> I'm having quite a serious problem which I need to solve out as soon as possible. The point is that I've got a Knoppix linux in a live cd, works great and I'm more than happy with it, it works in 50Mb which can be 7% of a cd. The problem is that I've got another 2 boot system cd which I need. I wanted to keep all those bootable cds in one, they told me that I could solve the problem using magic iso to make a boot with three option
[10:18] <Ekaitza> s but the linux doesn't work. Does anybody know how can I built a cd with three diferent boot options in different systems????
[10:18] <khermans> SCMark, only problem is that Theora is not final yet
[10:19] <khermans> no one should be changing just yet
[10:19] <khermans> wait a year
[10:19] <khermans> im all for it though..
[10:19] <calebme> so can anyone help me with my X problem
[10:19] <khermans> did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server ?
[10:19] <SCMark> khermans: yeah.  The current version is stable though.  I've got some dual audio with subtitles videos that work great encoded using theora
[10:20] <khermans> SCMark, quality/size < = or > that XviD?
[10:20] <calebme> khermans: Not sure where the guys that just helped me are at, but yeah I just went through that. I no longer get a weird green screen when Ubuntu starts the login screen. I just get an error
[10:21] <khermans> which is?
[10:21] <khermans> i have to go to bed soon
[10:21] <khermans> calebme, you have an nvidia card?
[10:21] <khermans> is this a laptop?
[10:21] <SCMark> I haven't done much benchmarking on it but just looking at the filesizes of the videos I've got, theora is comparable
[10:21] <calebme> no idea, just says that X can not start and gives me a box that says ok
[10:21] <khermans> there should be an error log
[10:21] <calebme> no I am not on a laptop, but it is an Nvidia card 6600GT
[10:22] <khermans> standard monitor?
[10:22] <Cryptid> What are the features gonna be available with Ubuntu Dapper?
[10:22] <calebme> Yeah I guess...Optiquest 19" CRT
[10:22] <khermans> ok, then it should be a standard setup
[10:22] <khermans> calebme, i would just hit enter on every option for the xorg confg
[10:23] <calebme> yeah, but the default that ubuntu set gave me that weird problem and after turning kernel framebuffering i get teh error log
[10:23] <calebme> yeah that gets me the screen of rainbow pixels man, when everything is default
[10:23] <khermans> calebme, sorry dude -- im no Xpert
[10:23] <calebme> lol
[10:23] <khermans> :-P
[10:23] <calebme> damn't
[10:23] <cedjo> hi
[10:23] <khermans> i know
[10:24] <khermans> it is frustrating sometimes..
[10:24] <calebme> where is aftapf..or whatever and that intelsomething dude
[10:24] <calebme> hell yeah it is, this is my first real problem with linux EVAR
[10:24] <khermans> calebme, i would try to pop in the Ubuntu LiveCD and snag the config from there
[10:24] <calebme> and it was working like 3 months ago D:
[10:24] <khermans> heh
[10:24] <calebme> er..howw...would i do that?
[10:24] <khermans> if the config is realy the problem, a live cd will get you back to the right track
[10:24] <calebme> and it is v5.04
[10:25] <khermans> calebme, oh man -- we're all using 5.10 now
[10:25] <khermans> you sould upgrade
[10:25] <calebme> yeah no kidding my cd's have not come yet
[10:25] <khermans> in any event, go to ubuntu.com
[10:25] <khermans> no high speen net?
[10:25] <SCMark> I've asked this b4, but just in case someone with the answer logged on I'll ask again:  Anyone know how to increase the sensistivity of a mousewheel?
[10:25] <calebme> atm, I have two cd's left
[10:25] <dvius> how can I check what kernel i'm running
[10:25] <calebme> to burn
[10:25] <khermans> SCMark, i believe there is an option under System -> Mouse
[10:26] <calebme> so i thought..aw...F it guess I will just get 5.10 whats a good site to get it from?
[10:26] <khermans> dvius, uname -a
[10:26] <dvius> ta
[10:26] <calebme> this irssi, and huge resolution is starting to hurt my eyes -_-"
[10:26] <calebme> lol
[10:26] <khermans> calebme, no cd-rw?
[10:26] <SCMark> khermans: There are sensitivity settings for my pointer, just not for the wheel
[10:26] <khermans> ahhh
[10:27] <Madpilot> calebme: you can upgrade 5.04 in place without downloading the entire 5.10 ISO
[10:27] <calebme> yeah, cdrw, I am just saying i have two blank cd's left
[10:27] <calebme> oh
[10:27] <SCMark> dvius: kernelversion in a terminal
[10:27] <calebme> like a command
[10:27] <dvius> i just installed linux-k7 package, but when i reboot it still selects linux-386, how do i change that, when I choose linux-k7 from grub it says kernel panics and hangs
[10:27] <khermans> calebme, yes it is easy too
[10:27] <Ekaitza> I'm having quite a serious problem which I need to solve out as soon as possible. The point is that I've got a Knoppix linux in a live cd, works great and I'm more than happy with it, it works in 50Mb which can be 7% of a cd. The problem is that I've got another 2 boot system cd which I need. I wanted to keep all those bootable cds in one, they told me that I could solve the problem using magic iso to make a boot with three option
[10:27] <Ekaitza> s but the linux doesn't work. Does anybody know how can I built a cd with three diferent boot options in different systems????
[10:27] <Madpilot> !tell calebme about breezyupgrade
[10:27] <calebme> uh
[10:27] <calebme> in irssie how do I switch acts
[10:28] <khermans> calebme, shift-f1 ?
[10:28] <sampan> calebme, default is alt-1 alt-2 alt-3 etc
[10:28] <sampan> iirc that is
[10:28] <calebme> thx
[10:28] <Corin_777> !tell #kubuntu-offtopic about breezyupgrade
[10:28] <Corin_777> no?
[10:28] <Corin_777> ohh
[10:28] <Corin_777> !tell Corin_777 about breezyupgrade
[10:29] <calebme> uhm, madpilot thanks for the tell but I am without a GUI atm...
[10:29] <calebme> lol
[10:29] <calebme> so can somone tell me what to type
[10:29] <SCMark> dvius: It sounds like you don't want to be using linux-k7 if it panics
[10:29] <khermans> calebme, sudo sed -i 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:29] <dvius> ...i use amd cpu and was told that i need to use k7 kernel...that wrong?
[10:29] <khermans> dvius, only if the AMD chip is newer and supports it
[10:30] <calebme> er, and that upgrades me?
[10:30] <khermans> ie and 500 mhz k6 wont work
[10:30] <dvius> its XP1800+, how can I find out?
[10:30] <dvius> its def k7
[10:30] <khermans> calebme, yep -- issue that one command and then do aptitude update && aptitude upgrade
[10:30] <khermans> oops sorry
[10:30] <khermans> aptitude dist-upgrade
[10:31] <SCMark> dvius k7 should work for you.  I ran k7 on an amd 700 MHz
[10:31] <khermans> SCMark, yeah i think anything above 550 mhz can do k7
[10:31] <SCMark> but if linux-k7 is panicing, I would keep linux-386 around
[10:32] <khermans> what is the fastest k6?
[10:32] <calebme> thanks so much
[10:32] <khermans> dvius, just go with linux-686 to be safe
[10:32] <dvius> ok... in my grub i have 3 options... i upgraded my kernel twice now and the options still remain in grub loader...
[10:32] <khermans> dvius, remove the entries from the file /etc/grub/menu.lst
[10:32] <dvius> when i choose another option (other than what it selects auto) it panics
[10:32] <dvius> ta
[10:32] <grace_> khermans, I think amd k6 went upto at least 450 but plasuibly 600 Mhz
[10:32] <khermans> sorry, /boot
[10:33] <grace_> hm wait
[10:33] <ubuntu> hey hows it going guys
[10:33] <khermans> good!
[10:33] <grace_> I have an athlon 600 here
[10:33] <khermans> grace_, i definitely had a k6-2 500
[10:33] <dvius> so linux 686 works better? more stable??
[10:33] <ubuntu> awesome!!! where r u from?
[10:33] <khermans> there was also a k6-3
[10:33] <grace_> I think I have a K6 550 on windoz
[10:33] <dvius> ah those where the days... hehehe
[10:33] <khermans> yeah so 550 might be the cutoff
[10:33] <joachim-n> what's the default font gnome uses for window titles etc?
[10:34] <khermans> dvius, not necessarily more stable -- but guaranteed to be more tested lol
[10:34] <grace_> khermans, you can still over clock them
[10:34] <khermans> grace_, you can overlock anything
[10:34] <grace_> all depends on whose mesing with the box I guess
[10:34] <ubuntu> i can clock any thing and everything haha
[10:35] <extraord1nary> Is possible to someone tell me how i can to install any program?
[10:35] <khermans> i have to go to bed, just finished writing Missionaries and Cannibals solution in scheme for class tomorrow .. sucks
[10:35] <grace_> only if youre dollar challenged and hands on techie is it worth considering
[10:35] <extraord1nary> Is possible to someone tell me how i can to install any program?
[10:35] <khermans> extraord1nary, aptitude via the command line
[10:35] <khermans> extraord1nary, or use Synaptic
[10:35] <ubuntu> yip what programme do u want to install?
[10:35] <extraord1nary> what
[10:35] <grace_> khermans, I know I guy who co authored a book on missionaires and natives
[10:35] <khermans> Applications -> Add Application
[10:36] <grace_> african natives and north american natives
[10:36] <khermans> grace_, indians?
[10:36] <grace_> african natives
[10:36] <ubuntu> do u have to learn that kinda stuff at school or whateve?
[10:36] <grace_> and north american natives
[10:36] <khermans> NA natvies are african
[10:36] <khermans> lol
[10:36] <khermans> yea
[10:36] <ubuntu> i wanna be a natie that would be kewl!!!
[10:36] <grace_> it was like a world travellers guide to how the missionaires wwent on tour to fuck thing sup
[10:36] <khermans> natie? friedman
[10:37] <extraord1nary> how i can to install lwp-8.6.skz????
[10:37] <ubuntu> native i mean
[10:37] <grace_> ubuntu, im afraid you dont know what native is
[10:37] <ubuntu> haha opps my bad
[10:37] <khermans> extraord1nary, dont see that pkg
[10:37] <extraord1nary> what is pkg?
[10:38] <extraord1nary> very strange
[10:38] <ubuntu> yeah those people that wear grass skirts and have fires outside and stuff
[10:38] <extraord1nary> I'm nooby
[10:38] <grace_> careful about thinking how nice it would be to walk in someone elses shoes
[10:38] <ubuntu> thats a natie aye?
[10:38] <ubuntu> opps native i mean
[10:39] <ubuntu> toe jams ill wear my own shoes thanx haha
[10:39] <grace_> sadly the english languages encourages breakdown of meanig and such
[10:39] <pawan> Sometimes, when I run hwclock I get: hwclock is unable to get I/O port access:  the iopl(3) call failed.
[10:39] <khermans> extraord1nary, pkg == package
[10:39] <pawan> what's that about
[10:39] <SCMark> natives are the first people to live in north america
[10:39] <grace_> especially for words like native
[10:39] <grace_> natives are the first peoples to have lived any where
[10:39] <khermans> SCMark, they were mistaken as being from India by COlumbus
[10:39] <extraord1nary> When i Start lwp-8.6.skz the program quistion me what format ????
[10:40] <dvius> where is grub stored?? it's not /etc/grub/menu.lst
[10:40] <pawan> khermans : that's a myth
[10:40] <ubuntu> natives rock i used to be one
[10:40] <khermans> and Columbus dindt discover america, he did that just as much as the guy who recently "discovered" my new car steareo
[10:40] <grace_> the tribes of africa are the native inhabitants of those countries
[10:40] <Ekaitza> anybody who knows about multiboot options please??
[10:40] <khermans> dvius, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:40] <grace_> the mongolians are the native herders of mongolia
[10:40] <khermans> sorry
[10:40] <dvius> THANX
[10:41] <olicat> has anyone figured out a way to get scrollpads working in breezy?
[10:41] <khermans> Ekaitza, yes
[10:41] <olicat> touchpads*
[10:41] <ubuntu> far out you know heaps about natives thats good
[10:41] <grace_> ubuntu, you cant used to be a native
[10:41] <khermans> olicat, there is a way to define sensitive areas in th xorg config
[10:41] <khermans> but it is not fun to do
[10:41] <extraord1nary> khermans what is synaptic I'snt have these program
[10:41] <pawan> We're all natives of some place.
[10:41] <Ekaitza> the problem is how can I boot a linux system and a dos system in a cd
[10:41] <olicat> khermans, is that the horizonalscrolldelta settings?
[10:41] <aftertaf> olicat:  but the touchpad is detected by xorg on install....
[10:42] <ubuntu> i once was a native
[10:42] <aftertaf> dvius:  howd it go?
[10:42] <khermans> Ekaitza, there are things like Multi-boot-wizard
[10:42] <dvius> extraordinary: synaptic is a gui package manager
[10:42] <dvius> aftertaf: not good!
[10:42] <Ekaitza> They told me to try with magic iso
[10:42] <grace_> ubuntu, read up on the meaning of ubuntu
[10:42] <olicat> aftertaf, i have "VertScrollDelta" 	"20" - but i have no scrolling.
[10:42] <ubuntu> i lived in a house truck and we did things the native way
[10:42] <extraord1nary> where I can FOUND HIM -Sunaptic
[10:42] <khermans> olicat, dont know -- my friend had a nightmare seeting it up -- i dont use them
[10:42] <dvius> linux-k7 not loading...
[10:42] <olicat> i also can't double tap to select something
[10:42] <grace_> peoples from all over coming together
[10:42] <Ekaitza> everything goes ok, but linux doesn't start
[10:42] <khermans> i have an external mouse
[10:42] <dvius> it keeps loading linux-386
[10:42] <aftertaf> dvius:  ah, whats the error?
[10:42] <extraord1nary> where I can FOUND HIM -Synaptic
[10:42] <aftertaf> dvius:  cant you choose it, is that it?
[10:42] <khermans> dvius, uninstall linux-386
[10:43] <aftertaf> extraord1nary:  sudo apt-get install synaptic
[10:43] <pawan> If you try hwclock, do you guys also get: hwclock is unable to get I/O port access:  the iopl(3) call failed.
[10:43] <grace_> as in the natives from all lands coming together to embrace human freedoms and diversity
[10:43] <khermans> dvius, that will also remove the grub entry
[10:43] <dvius> sweet...just a sec
[10:43] <khermans> ok, gnight all
[10:43] <extraord1nary> in console?????
[10:43] <ubuntu> my dad put this on my computa i just wanna chat to some ordinary people whats this chat room all about im confused?
[10:43] <aftertaf> khermans:  i wouldnt do that... if sth goes wrong he cant boot.
[10:43] <bimberi> extraord1nary: System -> Administration -> Syantpic Package Manager
[10:43] <aftertaf> dvius:  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:43] <khermans> aftertaf, well he said he booted 686
[10:44] <dvius> not yet... just installed 386 now...gonna reboot...be bacl in sec..
[10:44] <khermans> oh
[10:44] <aftertaf> 6896 or k7? wtf?
[10:44] <khermans> oh well
[10:44] <aftertaf> lol
[10:44] <khermans> hehe
[10:44] <aftertaf> what IS going on?
[10:44] <khermans> dunno
[10:44] <grace_> ubuntu, i pretty good with konfuzion so dont worry about it
[10:44] <ubuntu> haha kewl
[10:45] <Ng> ubuntu: if you want to chat, join #ubuntu-offtopic, this is a support channel for Ubuntu Linux :)
[10:45] <grace_> ubuntu, theres all kinds of chat rooms but this one is for ubuntu linux
[10:45] <ubuntu> how do you get into other ones?
[10:45] <ompaul> ubuntu, >>/join #ubuntu-offtopic<<
[10:46] <grace_> ubuntu, hows the wheather in new zealand
[10:46] <rhett> weather
[10:46] <grace_> rhett, wheather
[10:46] <ompaul> grace_, take the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:46] <ubuntu> hey how did you know i was from new zealand?
[10:46] <ompaul> grace_, please
[10:46] <ubuntu> the weather has been good lately
[10:46] <grace_> ubuntu, just type                          /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:46] <grace_> and then hit enter
[10:46] <Ekaitza> khermans.... I wouldn't like to disturb,, but,,, do you know any way to do it with magic iso??
[10:47] <ubuntu> offtopic
[10:47] <ompaul> ubuntu, join that channel please - this is a support channel there are over 550 people here
[10:47] <Ekaitza> or at least.. is it possible to do it in a windows software??
[10:47] <ompaul> Ekaitza, there is a #windows channel
[10:47] <grace_> ubuntu, just type                          /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:47] <Ekaitza> sorry
[10:47] <grace_> you have to ype exactly
[10:47] <ompaul> Ekaitza, np
[10:47] <grace_> no spaces
[10:48] <grace_> rather no extra spaces
[10:48] <Ekaitza> but the problem is not the dos boot
[10:48] <ubuntu> where do i type it?
[10:48] <aftertaf> ubuntu:  anywhere in your irc cklient
[10:48] <ompaul> where you type this
[10:48] <Ekaitza> the problem is just that the linux doesn't work with the multiboot
[10:48] <SCMark> anyone know how to increase my mousewheel's sensitivity?
[10:48] <grace_> ubuntu, just start typing
[10:48] <grace_> the same place you typed everythign else
[10:48] <ompaul> Ekaitza, it does
[10:48] <aftertaf> SCMark:  in the mouse prefs of your control panel thingy
[10:48] <Ekaitza> not mine
[10:49] <Ekaitza> I tried it
[10:49] <ubuntu> offtopic
[10:49] <aftertaf> Ekaitza:  what is your setuip, for it top not work?
[10:49] <grace_>       /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:49] <SCMark> aftertaf: I don't see an option to increase the sensistivity of my mousewheel there.  Just for my mouse in general
[10:49] <grace_> type everything i did
[10:49] <Ekaitza> what do you mean??
[10:49] <grace_> starting witht the slash
[10:49] <grace_> that is the question mark key
[10:49] <ompaul> ubuntu type>> /join #ubuntu-offtopic << the first character is / no spaces
[10:49] <ompaul> at the front
[10:50] <grace_> ubuntu, come on you can do it
[10:50] <grace_>  /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:50] <Ekaitza> the question is that the multiboot works ok,,,,, but chose to boot the knoppix,, it doesn't boot
[10:50] <ubuntu> its not working and its fucking me off
[10:50] <ompaul> grace_, /join << works with all clients
[10:51] <grace_> doesnt /j work with all clients
[10:51] <ompaul> ubuntu, >>>>/join #ubuntu-offtopic <<<<<<< that
[10:51] <grace_> ive never seen it not work
[10:51] <ompaul> grace_, it does not work with xchat
[10:51] <grace_> not the arrows part just everythig in between the arrows
[10:51] <aftertaf> SCMark:  ah mousewheel!!! ok. no idea ;)
[10:52] <grace_> im using xchat and it doe swork
[10:52] <aftertaf> ompaul:  it does!!
[10:52] <ompaul> doh you have to use the #
[10:52] <grace_> ubuntu, patience you can do it to
[10:53] <extraord1nary> I have synaptic and now how i can to install lwp-8.6.skz???????
[10:53] <aftertaf> ubuntu:  or edit your server prefs in xchat and set it to login to the offtopic channel on startup
[10:53] <rhett> An error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system.
[10:53] <grace_> any buddy can hit those keys on that key board
[10:53] <rhett> Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for the details
[10:53] <aftertaf> extraord1nary:  try to find out for yourself please........................
[10:53] <bob2> extraord1nary: what are you trying to do?
[10:53] <rhett> i get this error msg that file doesnt exist though
[10:53] <dvius> jst rebooted....i uninstalled linux-386 (apt-get says none installed) and rebootm but it still loads linux-386...i removed linux-k7 and its even still in the grub...everytime I install a nre kernel it just adds to the grub and when I uninstall it doesn't remve it
[10:53] <rhett> ive got a dell inspiron 4150 laptop
[10:53] <rhett> thats when installing breezy 5.10
[10:53] <bob2> dvius: removing this will not do anything at all
[10:53] <bob2> dvius: what are you trying to acheieve?
[10:53] <extraord1nary> i want to isntall the program applet for wheather -KDE
[10:53] <extraord1nary> weatehr
[10:53] <dvius> trying to update my kernel to linux-k7
[10:53] <ubuntu> i did hit the keys and its not working
[10:53] <extraord1nary> weather
[10:54] <aftertaf> ubuntu:  type or copy this: "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"   without the quotes
[10:54] <bob2> dvius: then install linux-k7, and select the k8 kernel from the grub bootlist
[10:54] <bob2> er, k7, obviously
[10:54] <grace_> oh hmmm
[10:54] <bob2> extraord1nary: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[10:54] <rhett> anyone got any idea what is causing my install to fail?
[10:54] <bob2> extraord1nary: you need to install the kweather package
[10:54] <bob2> rhett: did you verify the cd?
[10:55] <extraord1nary> 10x
[10:55] <dvius> i try again, but last time when i select k7 it unpacks the kernel fine and then throws a panic (somthing to do with fs)
[10:55] <rhett> how do you mean i burnt the iso bob that i downloaded how can i verify the cd?
[10:55] <bob2> dvius:  you need to be more specific
[10:55] <grace_> ubuntu   show me again    if you type 3 spaces and then /j #ubuntu-offtopic then I can see what you type
[10:55] <bob2> rhett: boot into 'expert' mode with the installer and select the verify cd option from the menu
[10:55] <dvius> mmmm, ok. I gonna try AGAIN and write it down...be back soon :)
[10:55] <rhett> k
[10:56] <grace_> if you do it without the the space in front a new window will open for you
[10:56] <dvius> wooopeee I luv errors messages... NOT
[10:56] <dvius> :P
[10:56] <ompaul> ubuntu left
[10:56] <extraord1nary> yes I have synaptic at GNOME but now I'm at KDE and I can't FOund where is HE!
[10:56] <grace_> ubuntu, oh he left already
[10:57] <bob2> extraord1nary: use kynaptic or whatever it is then
[10:57] <ompaul> extraord1nary, you can use #kubuntu
[10:57] <grace_> i wonder if ubuntu has used a computer much before
[10:57] <bob2> presumably not
[10:57] <ompaul> that is where those with kubuntu can hang out
[10:58] <extraord1nary> #kubuntu
[10:58] <ompaul> extraord1nary, >>/join  #kubuntu<<
[10:58] <grace_> perhaps there should be a #learn-ubuntu
[10:58] <grace_> or #n00buntu
[10:58] <grace_> ;^)
[10:59] <daemos> hello nightcrawlers
[10:59] <grace_> time to upgrade to #n00buntu
[10:59] <bob2> it's a bad idea
[10:59] <grace_> its gnuwer
[10:59] <daemos> im downloading this ubuntu of yours... how is it?
[10:59] <bob2> creating a channel full of only people who have no idea what they're doing will, surprisingly, turn out terribly
[11:00] <ompaul> bob2, are you sure? ;-)
[11:00] <ompaul> daemos, it will be yours and it will be your new operating system of choice
[11:00] <extraord1nary> How you unstall any program????
[11:00] <daemos> awesome
[11:00] <daemos> because im sick and tired of slackware
[11:01] <bob2> extraord1nary: use kynaptic
[11:01] <harsha> Hi guys!
[11:01] <daemos> not regognizing my internet wireless
[11:01] <daemos> POS! kernel 2.6
[11:01] <grace_> bob2, so would you vote for #learn-buntu then
[11:01] <extraord1nary> How you unstall any program????
[11:01] <harsha> Has anyone come across this error "The debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)" while installing Ubuntu Breezy?
[11:01] <daemos> mount /mnt/nopenis
[11:02] <ccooke> harsha: It's possibly your CD has errors
[11:02] <cusco> hi!! I did something bad, nasty, stupid with no sense at all, any try of explaining this would be obsolete
[11:02] <bob2> grace_: no
[11:02] <daemos> has anyone ordered the CD's off of the website?
[11:02] <bob2> extraord1nary: use kynaptic
[11:02] <daemos> I am wondering how long it takes
[11:02] <bob2> harsha: verify the cd as a first step
[11:02] <daemos> Im DLing but still curious
[11:02] <bob2> daemos: generally a month or so
[11:02] <cusco> I lost my /etc/modules file, could some one help me?
[11:02] <extraord1nary> bob2 how i can install kynaptic
[11:02] <harsha> ccooke, Hmm. Ok
[11:02] <bimberi> daedra: 4-6 weeks (iirc)
[11:02] <ompaul> daemos, well you may have a little fight with it to get the wireless card to work - have you checked out the list of cards that work with linux?
[11:03] <daemos> yeah
[11:03] <daemos> I have ipw2100
[11:03] <bimberi> *daemos (sry daedra)
[11:03] <harsha> I wrote it on a windoze box. that must be the issue. :P
[11:03] <bob2> extraord1nary: you already have it.
[11:03] <daemos> but Its my laptop specifically
[11:03] <daemos> IBM Thinkpad T42
[11:03] <extraord1nary> bob2 Where I can found in my omputer KYNAPTIC
[11:03] <bob2> daemos: wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[11:03] <daemos> cant figure out how to turn on and off the WI switch
[11:03] <Syrus> I'm using ipw2200 right now
[11:03] <bob2> extraord1nary: somewhere in the kde menus, I have no idea where
[11:04] <Syrus> on my thinkpad r50e
[11:04] <bob2> daemos: t42 laptops are well supported
[11:04] <daemos> software power WLAN on/off
[11:04] <daemos> yeah I heard ubuntu is great for IBM's
[11:04] <bob2> daemos: function-f5 turns it on or off
[11:04] <Syrus> yer, that's what I'm using
[11:04] <daemos> hotkeys aren't working
[11:04] <Syrus> it's alright
[11:04] <Syrus> software suspend doesn't work with this model though
[11:04] <daemos> and Fn-F5 stopped working in windows a while ago too
[11:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> has anyone here ever had any luck using your pda's wireless data plan as a modem?
[11:04] <Syrus> although I know why...and how to fix it..just cbf.
[11:04] <dvius> bob2: Uncompressing Linux... OK, booting the kernel                        audit(1132221464.734:0); initialised.   kernel panic - not syncing: VFS : Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[11:05] <daemos> eek!
[11:05] <daemos> your kernel just shit itself
[11:05] <dvius> no shit :P
[11:05] <bob2> daemos: that doesn't sound like a software issue
[11:05] <Syrus> no that sounds like you've done something wrong
[11:05] <bob2> dvius: there were 50 000 lines of text in between, right?
[11:05] <Syrus> like specified the wrong partition
[11:05] <bob2> 0,0 seems a bit suspicious
[11:05] <dvius> only before... all the usual. it all looked normal
[11:06] <chicken-man> Can someone help me set up a apache2 server please, I keep getting problems, It won't work on port 80 and when i try connect to my new port i get this error "You don't have permission to access / on this server." ?
[11:06] <Syrus> you can use fdisk I think to list your partitions
[11:06] <Syrus> fdisk -l
[11:06] <dvius> that was the last 3 lines b4 it shat itself
[11:06] <berkes> hey ther
[11:06] <berkes> e
[11:06] <Syrus> anyway, bbl
[11:06] <bob2> dvius: what have you done since the last time it booted fine?
[11:06] <daemos> bob2: well I cant figure it out :\ once I compile latest kernel to support latest ibm-acpi drivers and ipw2100 firmware, etc   eth0 goes down and cant be booted
[11:06] <bob2> chicken-man: er, what did you do to make that happen?
[11:06] <bob2> chicken-man: apache2 by default runs fine
[11:06] <daemos> something w/ my PCMCIA config in kernel i guess.. but ive reinstalled about 5 times in the past week
[11:06] <berkes> does anyone know how to ask apt what package provides a file?
[11:06] <ccooke> hmm. unknown-block - isn't that when you're missing modules for the block device? Been a long time since I've seen that one
[11:06] <JonasNZ> ive installed the nvidia drivers by compiling them myself, will installing nvidia-settings and therefore nvidia-glx interfere with this
[11:06] <bob2> daemos: you say the key doesn't work under windows either?
[11:06] <chicken-man> bob2, i just installed it and it's doing that, I've also reinstalled
[11:07] <bob2> berkes: apt-file, or packages.ubuntu.com
[11:07] <daemos> I think i disabled itsomehow
[11:07] <JonasNZ> berkes, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:07] <chicken-man> http://80.6.146.102:8080/
[11:07] <ccooke> berkes: dpkg -S filename
[11:07] <bob2> chicken-man: what specific error do you have in the /var/log/apache2/error.log?
[11:07] <berkes> no results there
[11:07] <ccooke> berkes: that'll tell you what package provided the file, if it's installed.
[11:07] <bob2> berkes: if packages.u.c doesn't know about it, it's unlikely to be in ubuntu
[11:07] <daemos> bob2, i wouldnt know because my ntfs partition is dead thanks to me resizing and moving partitions around :|
[11:07] <extraord1nary> Hello,please tell me how i can to install liquid???
[11:07] <berkes> ccooke: yea, the thing is, that package is prolly not installed :)
[11:07] <bob2> extraord1nary: be more specific
[11:08] <ccooke> berkes: what is the file?
[11:08] <daemos> oh well I deserve it, for not backing up and /or reading about installation
[11:08] <bob2> extraord1nary: do you mean "How do I install the KDE 'Liquid' theme?"?
[11:08] <bob2> daemos: ah
[11:08] <chicken-man> bob2: just lot's of access denied
[11:08] <extraord1nary> I have liquid lwp-8.6.skz
[11:08] <extraord1nary> the program FOR weather!
[11:08] <cusco> hi!! I did something bad, nasty, stupid with no sense at all... I lost my /etc/modules file
[11:08] <berkes> ccooke: bob2 (/usr/share/services/)kaffeine_part.desktop
[11:08] <daemos> also the IBM access / recovery is actually a FAT partition but its not usable if you split partition (which i did when I installed Slack 10.2)
[11:08] <bob2> extraord1nary: dude, I told you how to install a weather applet already
[11:09] <aftertaf> extraord1nary:  is it a desklet thing? you need superkaramba installed first
[11:09] <bob2> chicken-man: can you paste one line to #flood?
[11:09] <bob2> cusco: that's fine
[11:09] <berkes> the folks at kubuntu quite horrible broke the upgrade to breezy :$
[11:09] <bob2> daemos: heh, I just deleted the partition entirely
[11:09] <chicken-man> bob2: ok
[11:09] <cusco> bob2, if I restart it will be re-generated?
[11:09] <extraord1nary> astetaf Ok where I can found superkaramba
[11:09] <aftertaf> google
[11:10] <extraord1nary> afteretaf Ok where I can found superkaramba
[11:10] <bob2> cusco: no, but it isn't often used.  it's only needed to load non-pci, non-usb non-firewire drivers.
[11:10] <berkes> extraord1nary: in atp
[11:10] <daemos> It just sucks because im at college and depend on a usable wireless access to email attachments in class
[11:10] <berkes> apt, even
[11:10] <aftertaf> being new to an operating system should not invalidate all known techniques... do not depend on us for every little thing, please, its frustrating
[11:10] <extraord1nary> atp?
[11:10] <berkes> apt
[11:10] <cusco> and thats fine? it had there some lines, one of them was ndiswrapper
[11:10] <daemos> so Im stranded for another 15 hours until azureus finishes this supposed messiah of an OS ;)
[11:11] <aftertaf> berkes:  i dont think the version in repos can use the liquid weather, it needs 0.17 RC2
[11:11] <aftertaf> !info superkaramba
[11:11] <ubotu> superkaramba: (A program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.36-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 429 kB, Installed size: 1228 kB
[11:11] <aftertaf> 0.37 RC2 i meant
[11:11] <bob2> cusco: then you'll need to put it in there
[11:11] <bob2> I still can't believe there's something called "kynaptic"
[11:12] <cusco> lol
[11:12] <daemos> is anyone familiar with the network infrastructure of Novell?
[11:12] <cusco> but I don't remember them!
[11:12] <daemos> don't know how to mount a network folder
[11:12] <dvius> bob2: ok...the story goes: I installed ubuntu from on an empty drive (yesterday). grub had 2 options (linux 2.6.12.8-386 and memtest). Then I installed heaps of sound apps. it told me the latest kernel was available so i dl it. i reboot. (if i chek grub there would have been 3 options: linux 2.6.12-8-386, linux 2.6.12.9-386 and memtest) then I try and install linux-k7 and nvidia at the same time. reboot nvidia shat itself so i restore
[11:12] <dvius> video drivers (everything to the way it was) then during nvidia shitting itself i remove 386 (cause i think without checkin im running k7) reboot. run uname and see im running 386, reboot, try k7 (SHIT!) reboot install 686, remove k7 (by now my grub has 4 kernel entries and 1 memtest entry, a kernel entry for each kernel ive tried)  does that make sense???
[11:12] <aftertaf> daemos:  which version of netware? a recent one that uses TCP/IP or an old one with ipx/spx?
[11:13] <aftertaf> dvius:  2 secs... can we PV?
[11:13] <dvius> sure
[11:13] <bimberi> bob2: fairly sure kubuntu uses "adept"
[11:13] <daemos> not sure, how do I check what the netware ver is?
[11:13] <bob2> dvius: first, kudos for keeping notes and knowing exactly what you did :-)
[11:13] <bob2> bimberi: oh, duh me
[11:13] <daemos> could someone explain to me the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu other than KDE being on the latter?
[11:13] <chicken-man> bob2: what do you think ?
[11:13] <bob2> daemos: nothing
[11:14] <extraord1nary> aftertaf couldn't find package superkaramba
[11:14] <daemos> lol cool
[11:14] <cusco> daedra, the later doesn't have gnome
[11:14] <bob2> chicken-man: you haven't touched the configuration, at all?
[11:14] <aftertaf> extraord1nary:  for the weather applet you'll need to download it from sourceforge and compile it.....
[11:14] <daemos> rightio
[11:14] <chicken-man> bob2: only ports.conf because i would not start on port 80
[11:15] <daemos> is ethereal packaged with the install disc or is it optional
[11:15] <daemos> downloadable*
[11:15] <aftertaf> extraord1nary:  by 'it' i mean superkaramba. the weather thing needs the version 0.37 minimum, and apt will only install you the 0.36 version
[11:15] <bob2> daemos: removing the linux-386 or k7 or whatever packages will not do anything at all; they're empty and only used to install other packages they depend on
[11:15] <extraord1nary> I have the weather applet I don't know How INstalled IT!
[11:15] <SAM_theman> ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:15] <bob2> er, dvius
[11:15] <bob2> SAM_theman: install libstdc++5
[11:15] <SAM_theman> damn now my hands are tiered
[11:15] <dvius> bob2: sorry....yeah
[11:15] <Moof> can anyone help me get horde/imp working?
[11:16] <ClamIAm> i'm having strange keyboard issues in ubuntu.  it seems like keystrokes aren't accepted unless i hold down the key for quite a bit longer than in other distros (debian, fedora, xandros).  anyone know what could cause this?
[11:16] <daemos> lol bob2 loves to press tab with his leel pinkie ;)
[11:16] <daemos> personally im a ring-finger tab presser myself.. :O
[11:16] <aftertaf> dvius:  you get those messages?
[11:16] <extraord1nary> aftertaf Where I can find these
[11:17] <cusco> I don't know which finger is the ring finger
[11:17] <aftertaf> extraord1nary:  have you ever used google?
[11:17] <Tidus> i mash the tab key with my ring and middle
[11:17] <extraord1nary> aftertaf yes many times
[11:17] <Tidus> cusco: ring finger is the 3rd one
[11:17] <Tidus> right beside the pinky
[11:17] <dvius> yeah..."aborting.." try again??
[11:17] <cusco> thats the one I also use :p
[11:17] <aftertaf> extraord1nary:  then use it.... result nO 1 is SuperKaramba Theme Archive -, URL: http://www.superkaramba.com/
[11:18] <Tidus> my tab key's a bit ... wonky, so i have to mash it with my ring and middle to get it to respond.
[11:18] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Unless your a chick.  Then every finger is the "Ring" finger.
[11:18] <cusco> oh I got it, I use the middle one, and some times the ring finger :p
[11:18] <aftertaf> dvius:  did you receive my private messages?
[11:18] <Tidus> or i can index finger reach to the one in the center of my keyboard.
[11:18] <daemos> lol
[11:18] <dvius> aftertaf: justchecking dependancies
[11:18] <aftertaf> ok cool ;)
[11:18] <newargus> Hi everyone, I was using Seveas' Breezy packages v5.10 repository at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ to implement Freenx and it seems to be protected now ! Do you have an idea why ?
[11:19] <Tidus> newargus: poke seveas so you can get in
[11:19] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Anyone try to install Ubun onto a laptop?  I'm getting an error.
[11:19] <aftertaf> cos Seveas has become a dark sith lord, iirc ;)
[11:19] <daemos> a crack epidemic
[11:19] <daemos> x[uNkNoWn] x: what model laptop?
[11:19] <aftertaf> x[uNkNoWn] x:  be more specific (and yes, loooooads of us have done)
[11:19] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Dell pos
[11:19] <newargus> thanks tidus
[11:19] <ClamIAm> i'm typing this from a laptop :|
[11:19] <daemos> model?
[11:19] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Inspiron 600m
[11:19] <daemos> you take your laptop and you break it
[11:19] <daemos> you hear me?
[11:20] <aftertaf> !laptop
[11:20] <x[uNkNoWn] x> I know right
[11:20] <ubotu> it has been said that laptop is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops or http://www.linux-laptop.net/, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[11:20] <dvius> aftertaf: i checkd dependancies...no what?
[11:20] <daemos> tuxmobil is great :)
[11:20] <aftertaf> x[uNkNoWn] x:  what problem are you having? does it install?
[11:20] <dvius> aftertaf: *now
[11:20] <x[uNkNoWn] x> sad part is I work for Dell..  :/
[11:20] <x[uNkNoWn] x> I am on the part of "Detect and mount CD-Rom"
[11:20] <daemos> www.tuxmobile.org
[11:20] <daemos> find your laptop model
[11:20] <ClamIAm> x[uNkNoWn] x, viva la resistance!
[11:21] <daemos> see if anyone has similiar experiences
[11:21] <x[uNkNoWn] x> I get..   "Your installation CD-Rom couldn't be mounted.  This probably means that the CD-Rom was not in the drive.  If so you can insert it and try again."
[11:21] <daemos> do you have a terminal at all?
[11:21] <Tidus> I've successfully installed linux on a centrino 1.6ghz dell latitude lappy before
[11:22] <Tidus> but that was a wihle back
[11:22] <daemos> mount /dev/hdc
[11:22] <Tidus> and it wasn't a debian based distro.
[11:22] <x[uNkNoWn] x> tuxmobile.org no workie
[11:22] <daemos> x[uNkNoWn] x, sorry its tuxmobil.org
[11:22] <daemos> no e :)
[11:22] <x[uNkNoWn] x> ahh
[11:22] <daemos> www.freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[11:23] <daemos> woops
[11:23] <daemos> http://tuxmobil.org/mylaptops.html
[11:23] <daemos> question: does it take a long time to install additional packages after installation (from web) I am basically capped at 10-12 kb/sec
[11:24] <Blaubaer35> Hi, is it possible to disable ddc in ubuntu somehow?
[11:24] <aftertaf> dvius:  if you got all that, then i can guide you for grub and being able to choose your kernel at boot time
[11:24] <chicken-man> daemos: lol get broadband :-P
[11:24] <rhett> bob cd did have some failed checksum's im going to try burn again thanks for that
[11:24] <x[uNkNoWn] x> hrmm.. so far I dont see 1 site that says anything bout the cd rom not working
[11:24] <LootBeer> jus wanna ask: when soldering wires on pcb's  what wires are used?
[11:24] <x[uNkNoWn] x> :/
[11:24] <daemos> chicken-man, errr it is a T1 :P
[11:25] <daemos> college network = the crap
[11:25] <chicken-man> daemos: lol :-/
[11:25] <dvius> aftertaf: so i add them from synaptic? (package plus dependancies?)
[11:25] <daemos> thats why I want ethereal to work
[11:25] <daemos> so I can figure out if there is a faster pipe
[11:25] <aftertaf> dvius:  yep add then (the dependencies will add by themselves)
[11:25] <aftertaf> and remove all the i686 stuff you installed
[11:25] <daemos> fucking entire school uses thepiratebay.org to ... well.. pirate
[11:25] <dvius> aftertaf: ok...then?
[11:25] <daemos> lags and lags
[11:25] <aftertaf> daemos:  language :p
[11:26] <ClamIAm> K, I'll try again here.  My keyboard is very unresponsive, I have to type very deliberately to not drop or transpose letters.  Anyone know why this is?  (I've use this machine with other distros and ubuntu is the only one that does this)
[11:26] <daemos> my bad :|
[11:26] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Torrents..  how lame
[11:26] <beck> does anybody know how to get the sound to work
[11:26] <aftertaf> ClamIAm:  have you tried typing with something else apart from your forehead? :P
[11:26] <ClamIAm> that's hilraious
[11:26] <dvius> beck: u need to be more specific i.e kernel version, sound card type??
[11:27] <ClamIAm> argh there's an example
[11:27] <chicken-man> GRRRR I've just installed apache and I'm still gettingthis error when i connect "You don't have permission to access / on this server." :-/ how do i set where it looks for the html files, etc ?
[11:27] <beck> II can play videos but there is no sound
[11:27] <daemos> beck: type lspci | grep sound
[11:27] <x[uNkNoWn] x> intresting..  I told it to not retry the search.. then try again from the main screen.. and it worked.
[11:27] <daemos> actually maybe that wont work
[11:27] <dvius> aftertaf: done! removed 686. added k7, 386...
[11:27] <dvius> reboot??
[11:28] <aftertaf> dvius:  can you choose kernel on boot?
[11:28] <dvius> aftertaf: yeah, just press esc and it takes me to grub...
[11:28] <aftertaf> ok
[11:28] <dvius> aftertaf: reboot?
[11:28] <daemos> is anyone familiar with aimsniff
[11:29] <aftertaf> try yeah, and boot to k7
[11:29] <dvius> aftertaf: so now that the packages are installed what happens?? does the kernel install itself or..??
[11:29] <chicken-man> GRRRR I've just installed apache and I'm still getting this error when I connect "You don't have permission to access / on this server." :-/ how do I set where it looks for the html files, etc ???
[11:29] <dvius> aftertaf: ok....doing it
[11:29] <aftertaf> dvius:  the kernel has installed itself... take a look in /boot
[11:29] <ClamIAm> bah! the googles, they do nothing
[11:29] <dvius> aftertaf: ok...looking in boot
[11:29] <cusco> chicken-man, chmod a+x /var/www
[11:30] <dvius> aftertaf: mmm, yeah, i reboot now and try k7...c u soon
[11:31] <chicken-man> cusco: It works :-D Thank you :-PP
[11:32] <extraord1nary> aftertaf Who of ALL tnings http://homepages.comnet.co.nz/~matt-sarah/icons.html
[11:32] <daemos> what is the easiest way to pursue a programming language
[11:32] <void^> use it
[11:32] <cusco> chicken-man, ;)
[11:33] <daemos> cant without a foundation
[11:33] <daemos> besides... errr HTML ?
[11:33] <daemos> and helloworld.cpp
[11:33] <chicken-man> daemos: use C++ :-D
[11:33] <daemos> yeah
[11:33] <daemos> how did you learn
[11:34] <cusco> daemos, there are lots of 10 lesson's tutorials on the web
[11:34] <daemos> I can't read some of these books / tutorials because they almost ALWAYS assume prior programming experience
[11:34] <chicken-man> daemos: tutorials, ebooks, open-source software, etc
[11:34] <x[uNkNoWn] x> google....  C++ tutorial  or C++ for dummies
[11:34] <daemos> any specific site
[11:35] <chicken-man> daemos: www.cprogramming.com  A good place to start
[11:35] <extraord1nary> aftertaf Who of ALL tnings http://homepages.comnet.co.nz/~matt-sarah/icons.html
[11:35] <crimsun> daemos: python -c 'print "hello world"'
[11:35] <aonicc> anyone have any experience installing ubuntu on a system with an IDE controller the installer doesn't recognize?
[11:36] <aftertaf> oop aonicc not good
[11:36] <aftertaf> try the live cd maybe.
[11:36] <cusco> daemos, http://www.google.com/search?q=learning+c%2B%2B+lesson+1&btnG=Search
[11:36] <aonicc> would that help with an install?
[11:36] <chicken-man> C\C++ programming is not that hard, it just takes some time to get used to :-)
[11:36] <aftertaf> extraord1nary:  eh?
[11:37] <aftertaf> aonicc:  it would help by booting to ubuntu and seeing if the system can access the harddrive
[11:37] <dvius> aftertaf: my computer hates me :(
[11:37] <aftertaf> dvius:  nah, you just dont understand its needs and worries mate ;P
[11:37] <chicken-man> dvius: get a new one, I am :-P
[11:37] <dvius> aftertaf: hehehehe
[11:37] <aonicc> well like for a windows install, i had to load drivers from a floppy
[11:38] <aftertaf> dvius:  dont rush it.... what went wrong?
[11:38] <aonicc> and i don't see any options for that in the ubuntu installer
[11:38] <aftertaf> aonicc:  for an ide controller? weird as... IDE or SATA?
[11:38] <aftertaf> aonicc:  what is the ide controller driver?
[11:38] <aonicc> IDE. it has hardware raid capability, but that's disabled
[11:39] <dvius> aftertaf: i tried loading k7 from grub. it shat its pants... L kernel panic - not syncing:VFS:Unable to mount root fs on unkown-block(0,0)
[11:39] <aonicc> aftertaf: VIA VT6410 IDE RAID controller
[11:39] <aftertaf> dvius:  ok. remove it and all its dependencies, purge it and reinstall. something not right there at all.
[11:39] <aftertaf> dvius:  can you paste to pastebin?
[11:39] <dvius> aftertaf: SORRY...purge??
[11:40] <aftertaf> dvius:  with synaptic, choose the completely remove option.
[11:40] <dvius> aftetaf...so, cause my whole pc shits itself and hang...have to reboot after that happens...it hangs just after unpacking the kernel
[11:40] <aftertaf> dvius:  but first try this!!!!!!
[11:40] <dvius> aftertaf: ok..purgin in progress...
[11:40] <dvius> ok...
[11:41] <dvius> aftertaf:...what
[11:41] <aftertaf> dvius:  type: dpkg -l | grep linux-
[11:41] <aftertaf>     and paste the results to pastebin or #flood
[11:41] <dvius> aftertaf: ...i try
[11:41] <extraord1nary> How I can to install a program?
[11:41] <extraord1nary> Any program
[11:41] <dvius> pastebin??
[11:41] <aftertaf> extraord1nary:  depends on what. apt will install ubuntu packages (over 17000 of them)
[11:41] <chicken-man> extraordlnary: "sudo aptitude"
[11:42] <berkes> would people here advice against using marillat repos?
[11:42] <aftertaf> !pastebin
[11:42] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:42] <aftertaf> brb, i need nicotine
[11:42] <dvius> aftertaf: SORRY!!! im such a nooob!! pls be more specific,,
[11:42] <aftertaf> ./away tobacco heaven
[11:42] <aftertaf> dvius:  see what ubotu just posted ;)
[11:43] <chicken-man> berkes: yes
[11:43] <Ng> berkes: yes, very much so
[11:43] <dvius> aftertaf: thx!
[11:43] <aftertaf> hehe
[11:43] <Ng> berkes: if you want packages from there, download them by hand, adding those repositories is asking for pain later
[11:43] <berkes> Ng: okay :)
[11:44] <extraord1nary> chiken man and next what will make the program who i wan't to install is in my desktoP!
[11:45] <berkes> I really want kmlpayer to install w/o having to compile it (compiling on a binary distro is asking for pain)
[11:45] <Cashel> can anyone rec a dvd 2 dvd copier?? Found rippers that convert to avi and what have you, but I want s.a. dvd player playable copies... ?
[11:45] <extraord1nary> chiken-man and next what will make the program who i wan't to install is in my desktoP!
[11:47] <dragoran> how to set default scaling governor to conservative? its set to userspace by default and every reboot
[11:47] <chicken-man> extraord1nary: what ?
[11:48] <dvius> Aftertaf: if you see this...i've just posted to pastebin... under my name: dvius
[11:48] <dvius> dvius: hello
[11:48] <dvius> how do i make it type in red??
[11:49] <void^> dvius, huh.
[11:49] <dragoran> so?
[11:49] <marlun> To listen to radio stations that needs windows media player i was told to download mozilla-mplayer, but when I go to those sites the Totem Music Player seem to be used instead of mplayer, and totem just gives me a message that it could not play it, what can I do to fix this?
[11:49] <dvius> void*: i mean,just now your text comes up as red, does it do that by default when you enter a users name?
[11:49] <marlun> I get: "Totem could not play 'fd://0'."
[11:50] <extraord1nary> chiken-man I have a program in me desktop at skz format what will I make to install it?
[11:50] <LazyAngel> anyone know where i can download packages manually?
[11:50] <void^> dvius, when your name is in the text your client shows the line as red. it's not red for anyone else.
[11:50] <dvius> void*: mmm, thought that may be the case, thanx!!
[11:51] <dvius> dvius needs a new computer toooo!
[11:51] <extraord1nary> chicken-man I have a program in me desktop at skz format what will I make to install it?
[11:51] <dvius> LazyAngel: what are yu after??
[11:51] <ktogias> Hi... Could someone remind me the URL where the instructions to upgrade from hoary to breezy are?
[11:52] <aftertaf> !repositories
[11:52] <ubotu> [repositories]  How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[11:52] <dvius> aftertaf: done...
[11:52] <aftertaf> ktogias:  you change everything in your sources frm hoary to breezy, you update and dist-upgrade
[11:52] <aftertaf> dvius:  cool;
[11:53] <aftertaf> ok dvius type this:   sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:53] <aftertaf> dvius:  and edread and edit the file to let you choose and have more time with your kernles at boot.
[11:53] <agtnz> mpla
[11:54] <ktogias> aftertaf, There was a guide that suggested some more thinks, like dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver etc... It was at the chanel topic just some days ago...
[11:54] <aftertaf> !upgrade
[11:54] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:54] <ktogias> Thats it!!!
[11:55] <Syrus> I keep getting this in my dmesg, and I'd like to know what it means: [4345880.679000]  VFS: busy inodes on changed media.
[11:55] <lockhead> how can i change the colors in vim?
[11:55] <dvius> i have unlimited time as far as I can tell... its hidden and as soon as I press ESC it brings up grub (it should have no time if im not mistaken) is that right??
[11:55] <dvius> the "ESC" option is set to 3 seconds...
[11:56] <aftertaf> dvius:  edit away then ;)
[11:56] <LazyAngel> dvius: i'm after the 32-bit version of lesstif
[11:56] <aftertaf> make it non hidden and last for 20 secs ;=)
[11:56] <corza> hey guys i need to find a P2P client for Ubuntu (one thats pretty good with music)
[11:56] <aftertaf> corky:  amule
[11:56] <aftertaf> corza:  amule
[11:56] <dvius> aftertaf: so what am I editing??
[11:56] <aftertaf> corky:  hehe sorry :)
[11:56] <corza> lol sall good mate
[11:56] <aftertaf> dvius:  the grub options file ;)
[11:56] <dvius> LazyAngel: Have u used google??
[11:57] <dvius> yeah...ok. should I just delete the 686 and 386??
[11:57] <aftertaf> dvius:  nope dont touch them at all......
[11:57] <LazyAngel> dvius: i only found the debian package. That didn't work. I can look again for the ubuntu package
[11:57] <dvius> aftertaf: yeah...ok. should I just delete the 686 and 386??
[11:57] <aftertaf> to make them go waay you remove the kernel packages...
[11:58] <dvius> LazyAngel: Ubuntu is based on Debian, should work..
[11:58] <aftertaf> type : dpkg -l | grep linux-   and paste us the results to the pastebin website
[11:58] <dvius> aftertaf: I dont understand then...what am i changin in the grub??
[11:58] <dvius> afertaf: ok...
[11:58] <aftertaf> dvius:  the fact its hidden or not, and autoboot after 3 secs ;)
[11:58] <LazyAngel> dvius: i know, but it doesn't.
[11:59] <aftertaf> LazyAngel:   dvius debian packages dont work on ubuntu all the time.... using them can bork things;
[11:59] <aftertaf> LazyAngel:  sourcecode tarball?
[11:59] <dvius> mmm, ok...thanx...
[11:59] <dvius> aftertaf: pasted under name dvius2
[12:00] <aftertaf> LazyAngel:  http://www.lesstif.org/
[12:01] <mahangu> can i change the size of the partition i have ubuntu installed on?
[12:01] <mahangu> will that screw things up?
[12:01] <iskywalker> hi!
[12:01] <agtnz> how do i open the bittorrent port on ubuntu?
[12:01] <dvius> Aftertaf: OOPS...im back
[12:01] <aftertaf> dviok: change timmeout from 3 to 20, and put a # infront of  hiddenmenu
[12:01] <iskywalker> i have same  problem as: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7572
[12:02] <iskywalker> they didnt say the fix, somebody an idea?
[12:02] <iskywalker> i have although debian
[12:02] <dvius> aftertaf: ok...doing it now
[12:02] <iskywalker> knoppix
[12:02] <aftertaf> dvius:  ok. which kernels boot OK on your system? which give you a graphical environment?
[12:03] <agtnz> firestarter crashes when I start it. can anyone help?
[12:03] <triplah> anyone know what the linuxant hsf modem driver module is called?
[12:03] <LazyAngel> aftertaf: but you dont know where i can browse the repositories online?
[12:03] <dvius> aftertaf: 2.6.12-9-386
[12:03] <triplah> i'm assuming thats that is making the dial up connection on my parents ubuntu machine run so slow
[12:04] <dvius> LazyAngel: I dnt htink the repositories are available online...
[12:04] <aftertaf> LazyAngel:  packages.ubuntu.com    but there isnt one for ubuntu
[12:04] <dvius> OOPS!! my bad , ill shutup now!
[12:04] <aftertaf> lol
[12:04] <grace_> ~tiki
[12:04] <grace_> !tiki
[12:04] <ubotu> grace_: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:05] <aftertaf> dvius:  so 12-9-386 works ok and you have X running, right?
[12:05] <grace_> !wiki
[12:05] <dvius> aftertaf: yeah, as ew speak
[12:05] <grace_> ~wiki
[12:05] <dvius> *we
[12:05] <aftertaf> ok cool
[12:05] <LazyAngel> aftertaf: thanks
[12:06] <aftertaf> dvius:  type this: sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7
[12:07] <aftertaf> dvius:  athis'll completely get rid of the k7 kernel and its dependencies.   which is step 1
[12:07] <dvius> aftertaf: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:07] <dvius> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:08] <aftertaf> dvius:  now......... your nvidia works on the 386 kernel... did you use the nvidia website drivers to get it working, or the ubuntu packagee?
[12:08] <aftertaf> dvius:  close synaptic...
[12:08] <dvius> :P i try again...
[12:08] <dvius> aftertaf:...damn u good... :D
[12:08] <corza> woah amule aint working
[12:08] <aftertaf> hehe nope, just been there done that ;)
[12:08] <corza> cant download anything.. says waiting.
[12:08] <aftertaf> i've been on ububntu 3 months now man ;)
[12:09] <dvius> aftertaf: hehehe... DONE
[12:09] <dvius> aftertaf: nvidia...never got it working...
[12:09] <aftertaf> dvius:  ok. did you use the NVIDIAXX-XX-XX.run  package to install your drivers at any point?
[12:09] <corza> aftertaf: why isn't amule downloading stuff is there a best server to use?
[12:09] <dvius> tried nvdia site drivers and readme and also ubuntu apt-get (following ubuntuguide)
[12:10] <aftertaf> dvius:  tried == they're still installed probably. do you still have the downloaded file?
[12:10] <sjj> Anyone here used User-Mode-Linux under ubuntu?
[12:11] <dvius> um tried before I did clean install. i tried the ubuntu package this time...
[12:11] <dvius> aftertaf: i havefile yes
[12:11] <aftertaf> corza:  i dont know, it just worked (tm) for me... :/
[12:11] <aftertaf> dvius:  ok, but this is a clean install so youve never used it yet on this installation, right?
[12:11] <dvius> aftertaf: right
[12:12] <aftertaf> dvius:  ok;
[12:12] <dvius> aftetaf: why? im getting doubts now...
[12:12] <dvius> ubuntu: hello...nice name :P
[12:12] <triplah> anyone know what the module name for linuxant drivers are in ubuntu?
[12:12] <aftertaf> dvius:  rerun and repaste the dpkg-l command...     dpkg -l | grep linux-
[12:12] <aftertaf>    and also    dpkg -l | grep nvidia   whack em in the pastebin;
[12:13] <dvius> aftertaf: hang on....just noticed something...
[12:13] <aftertaf> dvius:  rightclick my username and choose open dialog window. and paste me the results there
[12:13] <dvius> aftertaf: rmdir: `/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7': Directory not empty
[12:13] <dvius> dpkg - warning: while removing linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7, directory `/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7' not empty so not removed.
[12:14] <sjj> It doesn't appear user-mode-linux is in ubuntu, but it's in Debian testing and unstable
[12:15] <mcphail> 11
[12:16] <dvius> aftertaf: I thin kim going crazy!!! nevermind... i scrolled up without realising and that was from before... i ran ""sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7"" and its fine
[12:16] <N6REJ> can you have both php4 & php5 installed at the same time and should you?
[12:16] <dvius> aftertaf: so what now??
[12:17] <dvius> Aftertaf: thanx for you patience...
[12:19] <N6REJ> is it possible to extract a single file from a tarball?
[12:20] <dvius> N6REJ: yes...in GUI mode you can open it up and drag to desktop or anywhere in filebrowser
[12:20] <N6REJ> k ty.
[12:20] <dooglus> N6REJ: using the command line:  tar xf <tarball> <file-to-extract>
[12:20] <N6REJ> great! ty.
[12:20] <SCMark> how do I associate ogm files with totem?
[12:21] <manuvcube> how do I install an JRE for 5.10 PPC?
[12:23] <dooglus> N6REJ: example: tar vxf tmp.tgz '*/file.pl'
[12:23] <dooglus> I had to put the '*/' because it was in a folder inside the archive
[12:23] <N6REJ> OH, never thought abut that.. yep.. that would help LOL
[12:25] <mahangu_> how do I execute a .bin file again
[12:25] <dooglus> "bash file.bin"
[12:25] <manuvcube> ahh, there's a wiki entry about java PPC
[12:25] <manuvcube> good
[12:25] <dooglus> I've never seen this channel so dead.
[12:25] <mahangu_> doodz, thanks
[12:25] <dooglus> which distribution is the new flavour of the month now?
[12:25] <mahangu_> dooglus, i mean, and yeah, why is it so empty
[12:26] <mahangu_> haha
[12:26] <mahangu_> :)
[12:26] <dvius> dsl
[12:26] <doodz> hehe
[12:26] <dvius> :p
[12:26] <doodz> me
[12:26] <doodz> :)
[12:26] <mahangu_> sorry doodz
[12:26] <doodz> your right,
[12:26] <doodz> :)
[12:26] <dvius> DSL??
[12:26] <dooglus> damn small linux ?
[12:26] <doodz> dam small linus
[12:27] <dvius> hehehe. yeah
[12:27] <dooglus> !dsl
[12:27] <ubotu> methinks dsl is see pppoe, or damn small linux ( http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ )
[12:27] <dvius> !mum
[12:27] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, dvius
[12:28] <dvius> hehehehehehhe. you rmum!!
[12:28] <daemos> raaawwwr
[12:28] <daemos> whats a nifty command
[12:28] <daemos> im bored :|
[12:28] <triplah> rm -rf /
[12:28] <dvius> Hey we can have some fun with uBOTu... :P *evil grin*
[12:28] <daemos> mugatu
[12:28] <mahangu_> ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:28] <dvius> !mount
[12:28] <ubotu> mount is, like, totally, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[12:28] <mahangu_> im getting that
[12:28] <mahangu_> anyone?
[12:28] <triplah> !finger
[12:28] <ubotu> triplah: Wish i knew
[12:29] <daemos> ubotu: how are they going to learn if they cant even fit inside of the building
[12:29] <ubotu> daemos: I think you lost me on that one
[12:29] <triplah> !grep
[12:29] <ubotu> I don't know, triplah
[12:29] <socketbind> hi, anybody managed to enable Coolbits in breezy?
[12:29] <triplah> ubotu: knows nothing :P
[12:29] <ubotu> triplah: No idea
[12:29] <triplah> !ls
[12:29] <ubotu> triplah: Bugger all, i dunno
[12:29] <dvius> ubotu: you are so sexy
[12:29] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, dvius
[12:29] <dooglus> triplah: so teach him
[12:29] <mahangu_> dooglus, any idea wtf that error means?
[12:29] <daemos> how do you search / for a file
[12:29] <mahangu_> guys
[12:29] <mahangu_> offtopic for this kinda stuff
[12:29] <daemos> with grep
[12:29] <mahangu_> daedra, grep <string>
[12:29] <dooglus> mahangu_: it means you don't have the libstdc++.so.5 shared library...
[12:29] <mahangu_> daedra, actually man grep
[12:30] <mahangu_> dooglus, apt-get?
[12:30] <daemos> yeah
[12:30] <dooglus> mahangu_: don't install realplayer - it's sucky
[12:30] <dvius> uboto: windows
[12:30] <mahangu_> dooglus, alternatives?
[12:30] <socketbind> I have no idea why Coolbits isn't working in breezy with the 7667 NVidia drivers
[12:30] <triplah> did he crash?
[12:30] <socketbind> any idea, somebody? :(
[12:30] <dooglus> daemos: you know the file's name?
[12:30] <dvius> HEHEHEHE...he crashed when I said windows HAHAH
[12:30] <daemos> no im speaking in general terms
[12:30] <daemos> if i was in say /usr/lib
[12:30] <dooglus> dvius: you spelt his name wrong...
[12:31] <dvius> shit
[12:31] <dvius> !windows
[12:31] <daemos> and i was looking for hotware.c
[12:31] <ubotu> hmm... windows is unnecessary, everything runs in Linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office or find an !alternative, or what you remove to make room for kubuntu
[12:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> socketbind: did you install the driver? or use the prepackaged?
[12:31] <dooglus> daemos: use locate, is fastest:  locate hotware.c
[12:31] <triplah> windows doesnt run under xen. ubotu is a noob
[12:31] <daemos> thanks, been wondering for a while
[12:31] <dvius> !sexy
[12:31] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, dvius
[12:31] <socketbind> Kamping_Kaiser: prepackaged version the restricted modules what I get with the kernel
[12:31] <dooglus> daemos: that uses a list of files that's updated at 7:30 each morning.  so as long as it's not a new file, locate will find it
[12:31] <daemos> dvius, you are still up
[12:31] <socketbind> Kamping_Kaiser: should I install it by hand? :-/
[12:31] <dooglus> daemos: if locate doesn't find it, do "find /usr/lib -name 'hotware.c'
[12:31] <dvius> daemos: what u mean?
[12:31] <triplah> cedega and wine and crossover office arent emulators either
[12:31] <socketbind> or manually perhaps
[12:31] <triplah> :)
[12:32] <daemos> dvius: I dunno, where do you live- timezone
[12:32] <dvius> New Zealand...its only 12:30 at night now...lots of time :P
[12:32] <triplah> Thu Nov 17 21:36:09 EST 2005
[12:32] <dvius> !New Zealand
[12:32] <ubotu> dvius: Are you smoking crack?
[12:32] <dooglus> mahangu_: I use mplayer
[12:33] <dooglus> mahangu_: what are you trying to watch, for example?
[12:33] <socketbind> Kamping_Kaiser: did you managed to enable it? I would rather stick with the modules shipped with my current kernel
[12:33] <dvius> ubotu: no, but do you have any?
[12:33] <ubotu> dvius: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:33] <socketbind> lol :D
[12:33] <socketbind> seriously, I googled this thing to hell, anyone has an idea why coolbits isn't working? :D
[12:34] <dvius> ubotu: well you give it to me, I put it in the pipe, heat it, inhale and then I'm high, would you like some?
[12:34] <ubotu> dvius: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[12:34] <dvius> ubotu: hehehe nevermind. neither..i dont even do drugs..
[12:34] <ubotu> dvius: Syntax error in line 1
[12:34] <mahangu_> is /usr/bin/RealPlayer an ok place to install rp
[12:34] <mahangu_> dooglus, web radio
[12:35] <socketbind> Kamping_Kaiser: did you managed to enable it with the drivers available at nvidia's site?
[12:35] <selinium> dvius, ubotu is a bot, not a real person...
[12:35] <dooglus> mahangu_: what URL?
[12:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> socketbind: i havent tried. the ubuntu ones worked (ie i can play quake 3), so i havent pushed my luck
[12:35] <dvius> selinium: i know, just bored... waiting for aftertaf, but thanx :P
[12:35] <mahangu_> http://www.bbc.co.uk/sinhala/meta/tx/nb/sin1500_au_nb.ram
[12:35] <mahangu_> dooglus, ^^
[12:35] <selinium> :)
[12:36] <dvius> selenium: whats ur handle mean??
[12:36] <socketbind> Kamping_Kaiser: well my card can run on a much higher core frequency and I would love to use the extra performance
[12:36] <dvius> selinium; whats ur handle mean?
[12:36] <selinium> nothing really... it is a base element spelt wrong!
[12:36] <SAM_theman> help me guys
[12:36] <socketbind> Kamping_Kaiser: it's a simple FX5700 but I managed to get +100mhz core frequency from it
[12:36] <mahangu_> how can i dpkg a .bin?
[12:36] <dvius> hehe, tru. why that particular element?
[12:37] <SAM_theman> i install streamtuner
[12:37] <SAM_theman> but it launches xmms and says some bs
[12:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> socketbind: yeh, my 5600 got damaged, but it's going, so I'm not screwing with it :)
[12:37] <dooglus> mahangu_: I can play that using "xine http://www.bbc.co.uk/sinhala/meta/tx/nb/sin1500_au_nb.ram"
[12:37] <dvius> .leave rebooting
[12:38] <mahangu_> dooglus, ok
[12:38] <dooglus> mahangu_: it's all in foreign though
[12:38] <dooglus> mahangu_: you don't need realplayer.
[12:38] <mahangu_> dooglus, it's Sinhala, my mother tongue
[12:38] <socketbind> Kamping_Kaiser: well I always overclocked all my cards, even the first one I got (Riva TNT), and I can't bear to overclock this one, on windoze it works nicely with this clock frequency
[12:38] <dooglus> mahangu_: it sounds cool
[12:38] <daemos> haha thats awesome socketbind
[12:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> socketbind: yeh, know the feel, i just cant help  :(
[12:38] <daemos> I had a Riva TNT too :)
[12:38] <daemos> and a Diamond
[12:38] <dooglus> mahangu_: where do they speak Sinhala?
[12:38] <socketbind> Kamping_Kaiser: but I have no idea how to enable it on ubuntu, well whatever I should try it with the ones available nvidia's site
[12:38] <mahangu_> dooglus, Sri Lanka
[12:39] <daemos> remember Diamond
[12:39] <SAM_theman> heres what i get
[12:39] <mahangu_> our presidential elections are on
[12:39] <SAM_theman> http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/32005365118.jpg&s=x11
[12:39] <socketbind> Kamping_Kaiser: well thanks for trying to help wish me luck :D
[12:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> :) i do, lots of luck
[12:39] <dooglus> mahangu_: I heard "Sri Lanka" in the middle of a sentence just now.  And "BBC".  Other than those 2 phrases I've understood nothing :)
[12:39] <SAM_theman> were u like mahangu
[12:39] <daemos> I want quake 3 lol
[12:39] <daemos> does it run well on linux
[12:39] <daemos> as a client
[12:39] <Chousuke> Yes
[12:40] <socketbind> perfectly
[12:40] <Kaiser_Quake3> that's why i play it ;)
[12:40] <mahangu_> SAM_theman, what?
[12:40] <socketbind> just be sure to grab the icculus version of the binaries
[12:40] <mahangu_> dooglus, haha
[12:40] <SAM_theman> it can't play the radio
[12:40] <mahangu_> BBC world service Sri Lanka
[12:40] <socketbind> the original 1.32 does funky things with soundcards
[12:41] <mahangu_> how can i dpkg a .bin file?
[12:41] <socketbind> mahangu_: do a chmod +x <.bin file name> and the run the .bin file
[12:41] <mahangu_> socketbind, yeah
[12:41] <socketbind> mahangu_: you don't need dpkg for that
[12:41] <daemos> what is that for
[12:41] <mahangu_> but it doesnt show up in smeg
[12:42] <mahangu_> in the menus i mean
[12:42] <socketbind> the downloadable linux version doesn't show up for me either
[12:42] <SAM_theman> well...
[12:42] <SAM_theman> http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/32005365118.jpg&s=x11
[12:42] <SAM_theman> nope
[12:42] <mahangu_> socketbind, how do you run it?
[12:42] <SAM_theman> this is my dads comp
[12:43] <socketbind> mahangu_: ./<.bin file name>
[12:43] <socketbind> for instance ./realplayer-install.bin
[12:43] <mahangu_> socketbind, thats the installer!
[12:43] <socketbind> yes it's the installer :D
[12:43] <SAM_theman> this is my comp
[12:43] <mahangu_> socketbind, i installed it
[12:43] <SAM_theman> http://www.putfile.com/sammy2005
[12:44] <socketbind> oh the why are you asking how to install a .bin file?
[12:44] <lockhead> how do i update to breezy?
[12:45] <mahangu_> lockhead, see topic do /topic
[12:45] <socketbind> mahangu_: what do you want to accomplish? I thought you want to install realplayer
[12:45] <socketbind> because you can get the installer as a .bin file
[12:46] <andriusburokas> hi, can someone help me a little bit
[12:47] <socketbind> ask your question and somebody will surely help
[12:47] <daemos> as long as their name isnt socketbind
[12:47] <daemos> ;)
[12:47] <socketbind> :)
[12:48] <andriusburokas> I've just installed ubuntu and I would like to know how to make my default file viewer to be konqueror instead of nautilus
[12:48] <aftertaf> how do you stop the usplash boot up screen from showing, i wanna see the kernel talk to me...*
[12:48] <Seveas> andriusburokas, then you should install kubuntu
[12:48] <socketbind> andriusburokas: well you better install kubuntu if you like konqueror that much :)
[12:49] <Seveas> aftertaf, remove 'splash' from the kernel command line
[12:49] <daemos> konqueror is bs
[12:49] <aftertaf> Seveas:  via grub, in that case?
[12:49] <Seveas> andriusburokas, installing kubuntu os easy: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:49] <Seveas> aftertaf, in menu.lst :)
[12:49] <aftertaf> thats the baby... hehe ok :)
[12:49] <andriusburokas> ok, that's not so important
[12:49] <andriusburokas> another one
[12:50] <bimberi> Seveas: is there a key-sequence (to dismiss the splash and see kernel boot msgs)?
[12:50] <andriusburokas> Is it possible to install KDE?
[12:50] <aftertaf> hehe bimberi us purists
[12:50] <Seveas> bimberi, during boot: <alt><f1>   <alt><f8>
[12:50] <aftertaf> andriusburokas:  yes, seveas just said howto. it does that exactly
[12:50] <bimberi> aftertaf: :)
[12:50] <aftertaf> hehe
[12:50] <bimberi> Seveas: cheers
[12:50] <orbx> kaser: chat timed out.
[12:50] <Seveas> during grub: move to your menu entry, hit 'e', remove 'splash' and boot
[12:51] <aftertaf> 3 ways :)
[12:51] <andriusburokas> You mean I need kubuntu anyway?
[12:51] <bimberi> Seveas: of course (D'Oh!)
[12:51] <Seveas> andriusburokas, kubuntu is ubuntu with kde
[12:51] <andriusburokas> now I got it
[12:51] <Seveas> and you can install that together with ubuntu
[12:51] <Seveas> just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:51] <dooglus> I've not seen a splash screen since one of the breezy release candidates.  any idea how I can fix it?
[12:51] <andriusburokas> ok thanks, I'll be back soon
[12:52] <Seveas> dooglus, dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[12:52] <dooglus> Seveas: I've done that a few times.  Anything else I might need to do?
[12:52] <Seveas> and check whether you have 'splash' in your menu.lst
[12:52] <dooglus> I have a menu.lst?  where?
[12:52] <socketbind> brainssssss
[12:52] <aftertaf> at hjome mine works once every 4-5 boots.
[12:52] <andriusburokas> won't there be any problems if I've already installed ubuntu-desktop
[12:52] <Seveas> dooglus, /boot/grub
[12:52] <aftertaf> dooglus:  /boot/grub:
[12:52] <dooglus> Seveas: I use lilo...
[12:53] <aftertaf> Seveas:  you have kb shorcuts for 1000+ things?
[12:53] <Seveas> dooglus, /etc/lilo.conf then
[12:53] <Chousuke> andriusburokas: no.
[12:53] <andriusburokas> ok
[12:53] <Seveas> aftertaf, yes :)
[12:53] <aftertaf> hehehehe
[12:53] <aftertaf> caos you dang fast shooter, man ;)
[12:54] <dooglus> does http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4660 look right?  or is that 'none found' a problem?
[12:55] <dagaren> hi
[12:55] <Seveas> dooglus, that's another splash image :)
[12:55] <Seveas> so it's ok if it's not found
[12:56] <socketbind> geez i'm downloading the nvidia binary drivers and now this is the 15th retry! :D
[12:56] <aftertaf> a perty background on grub
[12:56] <andriusburokas> where should I install for example java, I've installed it in my $HOME dir, but that's kind a lame
[12:56] <bimberi> Seveas: some of the debs on seveas.ubuntulinux.nl are "Forbidden" (403?) - eg. http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb
[12:56] <aftertaf> socketbind:  dont use them, use the ubuntu package
[12:56] <socketbind> aftertaf: I can't enable coolbits with the ubuntu package no matter what I do
[12:56] <aftertaf> okidoki
[12:57] <socketbind> aftertaf: and the extra performance what I get by overclocking is significant :)
[12:57] <aftertaf> socketbind:  really? heheh burn burn burn
[12:57] <socketbind> burn baby burn :D
[12:57] <dooglus> Seveas: where in lilo.conf should it go?  in "append="?
[12:57] <aftertaf> lool
[12:57] <socketbind> after 360 clock frequency I've got funky lines
[12:58] <socketbind> totally malformed vertexes in counterstrike
[12:58] <Chousuke> Meh, overclocking.
[12:58] <Chousuke> Useless ;P
[12:58] <socketbind> overclocking is fun :)
[12:59] <Chousuke> But useless.
[12:59] <Astxist> right ;p
[12:59] <socketbind> I just love to get some extra performance :)
[12:59] <Chousuke> Which you'll barely notice.
[12:59] <dooglus> one more thing before I reboot...  I use a static IP on my router, and I use the router for DNS - IP 192.168.1.1.  every time I reboot, ubuntu has forgotten my DNS, so I have to re-add 192.168.1.1 as the DNS address.  how can I get it to remember?
[01:00] <andriusburokas> where can I get more links for apt-get, and where should I configure that?
[01:00] <socketbind> well +100mhz core frequency sure does some difference Chousuke
[01:00] <Chousuke> The sanest way to get extra performance is to buy new hardware anyway :p
[01:00] <dooglus> andriusburokas: in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:00] <Chousuke> socketbind: does it?
[01:00] <socketbind> Chousuke: well for me it's a great improvement
[01:00] <Chousuke> socketbind: I'd say it depends on other hardware.
[01:01] <socketbind> and I don't have money for a new card :)
[01:01] <surfdue> how do i fix this:
[01:01] <surfdue>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                                      Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
[01:01] <surfdue> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[01:01] <surfdue> Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key
[01:01] <surfdue> sshd: no hostkeys available -- exiting.
[01:01] <socketbind> it was totally stable for weeks having no problems with it
[01:01] <lanjelot> I would like to register my own domain (ie: lanjelot.org), how can i do that ?
[01:01] <surfdue> how do i generate a new key
[01:01] <andriusburokas> where can i get mc, I really need it, and 'sudo apt-get install mc' won't work?
[01:01] <socketbind> well it would be fun if it suddenly would burn out :D
[01:01] <Chousuke> surfdue: ssh-keygen?
[01:02] <dooglus> surfdue: my guess would be to "sudo dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server"
[01:02] <theine> Does anybosy know how to create a Fedora chroot?
[01:02] <surfdue> nice
[01:02] <surfdue> thanks
[01:02] <dooglus> surfdue: it's just a guess.
[01:02] <surfdue> ok now otherwise, i created a public key
[01:03] <surfdue> where do i have to put it in and restart for it to work
[01:03] <Dewa> alow?
[01:03] <Dewa> do you hear ,e/
[01:03] <surfdue> i put it in nano -w /home/tyler/.ssh/authorized_keys
[01:03] <surfdue> is that all?
[01:04] <aftertaf> surfdue:  nope you should use ssh copy id command.
[01:04] <rhett> i have a samba share folder that i want to try sync with one on my laptop how would i do that in ubuntu is there a tool to sync folders?
[01:04] <surfdue> ohhk
[01:04] <surfdue> ERROR: No identities found
[01:04] <surfdue> odd
[01:04] <rob_p> dooglus:  Do you get your network settings dynamically from your router (DHCP)?  If so, then your router is misconfigured if it's giving you the wrong DNS addresses.
[01:04] <andriusburokas> kubuntu qe: I'm trying to install kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu, now I have to select display manager (kdm or gdm), which should I?
[01:04] <dooglus> rob_p: no
[01:04] <dooglus> rob_p: I use static settings
[01:04] <aftertaf> andriusburokas:  down to personal choice, they do the same thing
[01:05] <aftertaf> id choose kdm, but thats me :)
[01:05] <rob_p> Then simply add the DNS settings to your /etc/resolv.conf file.
[01:05] <surfdue> gdm :)
[01:05] <andriusburokas> what are the differences
[01:05] <dooglus> rob_p: and after a reboot I end up with no DNS settings.  /etc/resolve.conf is just 3 lines of comment
[01:05] <aftertaf> entrance :)
[01:05] <dooglus> rob_p: sorry - 2 lines of comments
[01:05] <dooglus> rob_p: the /etc/resolve.conf gets regenerated each time I boot
[01:05] <rob_p> dooglus:  Then dhclient is running for some reason and overwriting that file.
[01:05] <surfdue> ssh-copy-id bring sup ERROR: No identities found
[01:05] <surfdue> how do i use this command :)
[01:05] <aftertaf> adnnothing really: one is by gnome one by kde, both do same thing
[01:05] <aftertaf> andriusburokas:  ^^^^
[01:06] <andriusburokas> thanks
[01:06] <rob_p> dooglus:  How many interfaces do you have active on that machine?  Any configured for dynamic IP?
[01:06] <dooglus> rob_p: 3, and no.
[01:06] <aftertaf> surfdue:  ssh-copy-id -i /path/to/key.pub   login@dnsnamofhost
[01:07] <[nige] > does anyone know if WDS is compatiable with WPA?
[01:07] <aftertaf> wb selinium from da uk :] 
[01:07] <dooglus> rob_p: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4661
[01:07] <surfdue> ssh-copy-id -i /bla/privatekey.pub   tyler@ubuntu
[01:07] <surfdue> that is correct right aftertaf  :)
[01:07] <rhett> can anyone tell me if htere is a program or standard util for linux that i can use to keep two folders syncronised (one is a mounted samba share folder and the other a local one on the laptop) ?
[01:07] <andriusburokas> where can I get mc
[01:07] <aftertaf> surfdue:  i sneaked it from a website i know ;)
[01:08] <aftertaf> andriusburokas:  whatis mc?
[01:08] <andriusburokas> Midnight Commander
[01:08] <aftertaf> ohhhhhhhhh
[01:08] <Chousuke> rhett: hm.
[01:08] <aftertaf> apt-cache search midnight
[01:08] <surfdue> wait
[01:08] <aftertaf> ??
[01:08] <shigs> hey chaps ^___^
[01:08] <surfdue> uh
[01:08] <surfdue> where do i get a pub file?
[01:08] <surfdue> :)
[01:08] <shigs> any chance somebody can help me, i need to mount an smb network drive in work
[01:08] <rhett> are you in thought chousuke?:p
[01:08] <shigs> or they'll make me uninstall ubuntu :(
[01:08] <aftertaf> surfdue:  ssh-keygen -t dsa
[01:08] <Chousuke> rhett: In which way should they be synchronised?
[01:09] <[nige] > you can
[01:09] <[nige] > :>
[01:09] <[nige] > cya
[01:09] <surfdue> k but im generating for a diffrent pc to access mine
[01:09] <Chousuke> rhett: you could just symlink the samba mount to your wanted destination
[01:09] <dooglus> andriusburokas: you need to enable universe
[01:09] <bimberi> rhett: have a look at rsync and unison
[01:09] <rhett> like the way you would sync a palmpilot to a computer
[01:09] <rhett> so newest version of files overrides i guess
[01:09] <aftertaf> surfdue:  that command lets you copy it via ssh
[01:09] <Chousuke> rhett: rsync then, I guess.
[01:09] <aftertaf> surfdue:  ssh-copy-id -i /path/to/key.pub   login@dnsnamofhost
[01:09] <surfdue> confused now
[01:09] <rhett> yeah sometimes the laptop is used and unable to mount the samba share
[01:09] <rob_p> dooglus:  Does, "ps -A | grep dhclient" show any dhclient process running?
[01:10] <rhett> ok chousuke/bimberi ill look at that thanks
[01:10] <andriusburokas> for 'apt-cahce search midnight' I got 'konsole - X terminal emulator for KDE', I've already instlled konsole, but there is no mc
[01:10] <redguy> How to make update-grub see grub splash images? I know I can just edit menu.lst, but this doesn't seem to be "the right way"
[01:11] <aftertaf> omgggggggg brain meltdown
[01:11] <socketbind> brainssssssss
[01:11] <mahangu_> dooglus, did you mean gxine?
[01:11] <mahangu_> i have xine-ui installed
[01:11] <dooglus> rob_p: no: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4662
[01:11] <mahangu_> cant find a way to open rm files
[01:11] <andriusburokas> dooglus: can You explain more, what is universe?
[01:11] <dooglus> mahangu_: no, I meant 'xine'
[01:12] <surfdue> dang
[01:12] <surfdue> when i login through putty still ask for my user and pass.
[01:12] <mahangu_> dooglus, no such package
[01:12] <surfdue> this is to confusing why cant then just make it key-generate
[01:12] <surfdue> and it works RIGHT there
[01:12] <surfdue> :)
[01:13] <surfdue> aftertaf can you pm me?
[01:13] <surfdue> maybe if u tell me step by step really fast ill get it
[01:13] <surfdue> i read the ssh manual faq etc, i still _dont_ get it
[01:13] <aftertaf> me neither really
[01:14] <surfdue> :)
[01:14] <aftertaf> you do it on the client, copy the file over then run the command on the server, but i'm having cerebral meltdown right now.
[01:14] <surfdue> darn this is to complicated
[01:14] <dooglus> !universe
[01:14] <ubotu> universe is, like, totally, to enable the universe repository, run "sudo sed -i 's/\smain/ main universe/' /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:14] <dooglus> andriusburokas: ^---
[01:14] <surfdue> what is the right host
[01:15] <surfdue> is tyler@ubuntu right?
[01:15] <surfdue> ubuntu is my system host
[01:15] <surfdue> heh **reminder to change that**
[01:15] <aftertaf> nope, you shold put the server you're connected to via ssh
[01:15] <rob_p> dooglus:  Odd.  Well, in the meantime, you can put, "prepend domain-name-servers ip.of.your.dns" in your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf file and if /etc/resolv.conf is in fact being overwritten by the dhclient process, your DNS entry will be prepended to the list.  If there's no change, then something else is doing it.
[01:15] <surfdue> ok ubuntu?
[01:15] <dooglus> rob_p: I'll try that.  thanks.
[01:15] <surfdue> or the ip?
[01:15] <andriusburokas> dooglus: ok I did it, what next? Can i search for mc again?
[01:15] <surfdue> if its ip its a local ip
[01:16] <dooglus> !universe
[01:16] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, universe is to enable the universe repository, run "sudo sed -i 's/\smain/ main universe/' /etc/apt/sources.list" and then run "sudo apt-get update"
[01:16] <dooglus> andriusburokas: ^--- updated :)
[01:16] <shigs> hi
[01:16] <shigs> mount -t smbfs \\\\smb2.aber.ac.uk\\advisory /mnt/advisory
[01:16] <shigs> waht is wrong with that?
[01:16] <shigs> all ive done is install samba before that
[01:16] <shigs> i get wrongfs type
[01:16] <shigs> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on \\smb2.aber.ac.uk\advisory,
[01:16] <shigs> :(
[01:16] <shigs> can anybody help?
[01:16] <dooglus> shigs: you need to install smbfs to get that to work
[01:17] <socketbind> bye have a nice time
[01:17] <shigs> aye, i cant seem to find it
[01:17] <dooglus> shigs: but, smb has a 2gig filesize limit.  you're better off using "cifs" instead of "smbfs"
[01:17] <shigs> its our work filestore
[01:17] <shigs> not much i can do about it
[01:17] <shigs> apt-get install smbfs comes up with errors
[01:17] <N6REJ> what handles smtp dovecot or postfix?  postfix right?
[01:17] <dooglus> mahangu_: the package is "xine-ui"
[01:18] <andriusburokas> yeah, thanks, it worked
[01:18] <andriusburokas> dooglus: ^^^
[01:18] <dooglus> mahangu_: also, install "totem-xine"
[01:18] <surfdue> anyone know ssh?
[01:18] <dooglus> surfdue: kinda
[01:18] <shigs> its not that
[01:18] <surfdue> can yoiu please help me get this generated key working?
[01:18] <shigs> smbfs is supported by mount
[01:19] <shigs> any more ideas?
[01:20] <dooglus> shigs: what if you use "-t cifs" instead?
[01:20] <freeflying> dose anyone use palm under ubuntu
[01:20] <dooglus> surfdue: what's the problem?
[01:21] <surfdue> when i login
[01:21] <shigs> dooglus, : same error mate
[01:21] <surfdue> i have to enter pass and user
[01:21] <surfdue> just wanted to skip this
[01:21] <dooglus> shigs: I use this: mount -t cifs -o password=,uid=chris //server/dokumenty ~/smb/server/dokumenty
[01:21] <dooglus> shigs: note forward slashes, not back
[01:22] <dooglus> surfdue: when you log in from where to where?
[01:22] <surfdue> my home pc
[01:22] <surfdue> to my home server
[01:22] <surfdue> on the same net
[01:23] <dooglus> surfdue: on the home pc, put your private key in ~/.ssh/id_rsa
[01:23] <surfdue> i have windows
[01:23] <surfdue> on this home pc im using
[01:23] <surfdue> on linux its no problem
[01:23] <surfdue> :)
[01:23] <dooglus> surfdue: and on the home server, put your public key in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[01:23] <surfdue> ya
[01:24] <surfdue> i put my public key in there
[01:24] <surfdue> the private key
[01:24] <eedge> using xchat on KDE for the first time.... and all the text is ridiculously small :S
[01:24] <surfdue> hmm how do i do that in winblowz?
[01:26] <bones_78> What repositories are best for ubuntu?
[01:28] <mahangu_> how can i put realplay in my system path?
[01:28] <mahangu_> i want to view video inside a webpage
[01:28] <mahangu_> and Helix DNA wont let me
[01:28] <ceej> i get a warning screen when i load up synaptica package manager and get a load of these messages in it W: Couldn't stat source package list http://antesis.freecontrib.org breezy/free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists
[01:29] <ceej> any one that could help would be great :)
[01:29] <bimberi> ceej: try hitting reload
[01:29] <Seveas> ceej, disable that repository
[01:30] <Seveas> it seems to be out of operation
[01:30] <ceej> i then get another error hitting reload
[01:30] <bimberi> ceej: listen to Seveas :P
[01:30] <ceej> sayingcould not download all repository indexes and loads of these messages ttp://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/dists/breezy/Release.gpg: Could not connect to antesis.freecontrib.org:80 (213.251.190.135). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[01:30] <mahangu_> !system-path
[01:30] <ubotu> mahangu_: Are you on ritalin?
[01:30] <ceej> Seveas: how do i do that?
[01:30] <mahangu_> ubotu, yeah i think so
[01:30] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, mahangu_
[01:31] <Seveas> ceej, same way as you enabled it...
[01:31] <mahangu_> Seveas, system path? i want to  be able to view .rm video inside my ff
[01:31] <corporal> does anybody know how to setup sound recording in breezy
[01:31] <ceej> Seveas: i never enabled them lol
[01:31] <Seveas> ceej bullshit
[01:32] <Seveas> if synaptic says it uses this repo, you enabled it
[01:32] <mahangu_> corporal, im trying to find out too
[01:32] <mahangu_> let me know if you get anywhere
[01:32] <ceej> Seveas: well must have been one of those silly things i installed then uninstalled called automatrix....
[01:32] <corporal> there was nothing on the ubuntu wiki for the gnome sound recorder
[01:33] <Seveas> thats *exactly* why you should not use such crappy tools
[01:33] <Seveas> go complain to the author of it, but not in here
[01:33] <piqueno> oi
[01:33] <piqueno> alguem do brasil
[01:33] <ceej> Seveas: wasn't complaining, just wanted to fix it thats all sorry ;/
[01:33] <Seveas> !br
[01:33] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[01:34] <dooglus> rob_p: I rebooted after adding the line you suggested.  still no dh* process, and still only two commented lines in resolv.conf
[01:34] <Seveas> ceej, probably the script has broken much more
[01:34] <ceej> ;/
[01:34] <Seveas> if your install is still fairly new you'd better reinstall and stay far away from crappy scripts
[01:34] <ceej> ye it is new....
[01:35] <Seveas> ceej, then simply reinstall
[01:35] <Seveas> who knows what else that stupid crap has broken
[01:35] <ceej> Seveas: i will just going to put things on cd first :)
[01:35] <andriusburokas> hi, I'm back. so how do I chage default file manager to konqueror instead of nautilus?
[01:35] <djk_> how do i find out which usb port a gamepad is connected to?
[01:36] <andriusburokas> I'm on kubuntu now
[01:37] <Crasp> djk_: well the idea of usb was that it would not matter :)
[01:37] <djk_> Crasp: well indeed, but apparently it does.
[01:38] <corporal> exit
[01:38] <corporal> quit
[01:39] <eth42> hi! is there any free software to play real media streams as from amazon.com?
[01:40] <Mark0> Hi, I would like to ask You if you could help me to resolve some package installation problem..
[01:40] <eth42> Mark0, what?
[01:41] <Mark0> Yesterday I was tryng to install a program called qt, but while I wsa making it, I've revevedi these errors..
[01:41] <eth42> which?
[01:41] <lesshaste> what is the pdf viewer that kile uses?
[01:41] <Mark0> e -I../../include -I../../include/QtGui -I../3rdparty/libpng -I../3rdparty/zlib -I/usr/X11R6/include -I.moc/debug-shared -I. -o .obj/debug-shared/qapplication.o kernel/qapplication.cpp
[01:41] <Mark0> In file included from ../../include/QtGui/private/qt_x11_p.h:1,
[01:41] <Mark0>                  from kernel/qapplication.cpp:49:
[01:41] <Mark0> ../../include/QtGui/private/../../../src/gui/kernel/qt_x11_p.h:48:22: error: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
[01:41] <Mark0> ../../include/QtGui/private/../../../src/gui/kernel/qt_x11_p.h:53:23: error: X11/Xutil.h: No such file or directory
[01:41] <Mark0> ../../include/QtGui/private/../../../src/gui/kernel/qt_x11_p.h:244: error: Colormap does not name a type
[01:41] <Mark0> ../../include/QtGui/private/../../../src/gui/kernel/qt_x11_p.h:245: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of Visual with no type
[01:41] <orbx> anyone know how to install flash player on konqueror
[01:42] <Mark0> ../../include/QtGui/private/../../../src/gui/kernel/qt_x11_p.h:245: error: expected ; before * token
[01:42] <Mark0> ../../include/QtGui/private/../../../src/gui/kernel/qt_x11_p.h:258: error: Window does not name a type
[01:42] <Mark0> ../../include/QtGui/private/../../../src/gui/kernel/qt_x11_p.h:261: error: Window has not been declared
[01:42] <Mark0> ../../include/QtGui/private/../../../src/gui/kernel/qt_x11_p.h:262: error: Window has not been declared
[01:42] <eth42> stop
[01:42] <Mark0> ../../include/QtGui/private/../../../src/gui/kernel/qt_x11_p.h:262: error: Atom has not been declared
[01:42] <Mark0> so I realise tha I've not installed x11 development libraries
[01:42] <Ophiocus> Mark0,  DONT PASTE HERE WHAR ARE YOU IDIOT?
[01:42] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Okay, am I missing something..   I installed Ubun.. and don't see how to get it to boot to GUI.  I'm not to familur with all the commands todo it in command prompt
[01:43] <andriusburokas> how do I chage default file manager to konqueror instead of nautilus?
[01:43] <dreumah> hi i have a .mkv movie file and i cant find a supporting player
[01:43] <Ophiocus> Mark0,  !!!! read the freaking topic thats what its for!!!!!!!!!
[01:43] <Ophiocus> dam
[01:43] <dooglus> andriusburokas: switch to KDE instead of GNOME?
[01:43] <andriusburokas> it's KDE
[01:43] <andriusburokas> I think :)
[01:44] <daemos> yes it is
[01:44] <daemos> you want kubuntu
[01:44] <dreumah> hi i have a .mkv movie file and i cant find a supporting player
[01:44] <daemos> ubuntu is using the GNOME interface
[01:44] <andriusburokas> i've just installed kubuntu
[01:44] <andriusburokas> on top of ubuntu
[01:44] <x[uNkNoWn] x> How do you get the gnome int?  ;)
[01:44] <dreumah> hi i have a .mkv movie file and i cant find a supporting player
[01:44] <eth42> daemos: but, indeed, where are the header files for the x server?
[01:45] <robotgeek> dreumah: try vlc
[01:45] <daemos> they should be in /usr/src/linux ?
[01:45] <daemos> somewhere
[01:45] <daemos> oh no
[01:45] <daemos> <- brain fart
[01:45] <x[uNkNoWn] x> When ya'll start the box.. does it boot to the GUI or do you have to manually tell it to boot to gui?
[01:45] <eth42> daemos: they are not installed along with xorg-*, and I don't see any -header package
[01:46] <eth42> s/-header/-devel/
[01:46] <rob_p> dooglus:  Ok.  Then it's not dhclient doing it.  What are you doing with the pre-up directives in your /etc/network/interfaces?  Are they necessary?
[01:46] <andriusburokas> it boots itself to GUI, also it skipped gnome and started kdm, as long as i understand
[01:46] <Kimppa> Hello. Does anyone know some remote control (hardware) which works on (k)ubuntu? I'm a bit lazy, so I'd like to have a way to switch my mp3, pause my movie or whatever while lying in my bed :)
[01:46] <x[uNkNoWn] x> Well crap.  Its booting into command prompt.
[01:46] <x[uNkNoWn] x> How do I get it to boot to a GUI?
[01:46] <daemos> can you use lilo instead of grub with this distro
[01:47] <kestas> Kimppa, wireless mouse?
[01:47] <Mars_^>  Hi I need some help. I dont know how to install flash plugin for Opera. I dont have any idea about it. Can someone help me?
[01:47] <kestas> thats what I use
[01:47] <x[uNkNoWn] x> tried to look at the help files dont see anything.
[01:47] <daemos> x[uNkNoWn] x: type startx to start the xwindows
[01:47] <x[uNkNoWn] x> -bash: startx: command not found
[01:47] <dreumah> vlc cant play it
[01:47] <Kimppa> kestas: nah, I was looking for something that reminds me more of an actual remote control
[01:47] <daemos> Mars_^,  how about you use firefox? :O
[01:47] <kestas> you installed minimal x[uNkNoWn] x
[01:47] <x[uNkNoWn] x> server
[01:47] <andriusburokas> x[uNkNoWn] x: user not authorized
[01:48] <daemos> reinstall
[01:48] <x[uNkNoWn] x> I'm logged in with root
[01:48] <x[uNkNoWn] x> so I need to reinstall but dont type in server this time.
[01:48] <daemos> xorg.config ?
[01:48] <daemos> no
[01:49] <daemos> err why did you type in server
[01:49] <Kimppa> x[uNkNoWn] x: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start?
[01:49] <nxv_> hi
[01:49] <daemos> Kimppa: hes logged in as root.
[01:49] <x[uNkNoWn] x> I'll be using the box as a server..
[01:49] <x[uNkNoWn] x> I have no clue
[01:49] <x[uNkNoWn] x> :P
[01:49] <Kimppa> well drop the sudo then
[01:49] <daemos> cool :)
[01:49] <nxv_> can i transfere an debian system into an ubuntu system by just changing the source list? is it secure? i want to do it on a vserver
[01:50] <x[uNkNoWn] x> sudo: /etc/init.d/gdm: command not found
[01:50] <ps2wayne> unknown if you are gonna use it as a server there is no xwindows
[01:50] <daemos> you need to do a clean install and go slower :)
[01:50] <shigs> well all ic an say
[01:50] <shigs> is im using my first proper ubuntu machine
[01:50] <shigs> for work in a library
[01:51] <shigs> and its doing USB plug and play perfectly
[01:51] <daemos> I hate compiling kernels and modules with make menuconfig
[01:51] <x[uNkNoWn] x> lovely.. wish someone would have told me that before I put it that way.
[01:51] <shigs> i have my network drives mounted
[01:51] <shigs> this operating system is AMAZING
[01:51] <daemos> something always messes up w/ my hardware
[01:51] <daemos> nice
[01:51] <tumi> shigs: hehe, same story here
[01:51] <daemos> Im dling it still
[01:51] <ps2wayne> you buidling the modules in or setting them as modules daemos
[01:51] <shigs> mozilla composer is just as good as front page
[01:51] <daemos> 25% done
[01:51] <shigs> so i have NO excuse not to use ubuntu
[01:51] <daemos> at 10.3kb s
[01:52] <shigs> *2 thumbs up*
[01:52] <robotgeek> shigs: u mean nvu?
[01:52] <x[uNkNoWn] x> mm'ka.. thanks for the help.. off to work I go.
[01:52] <shigs> nvu?
[01:53] <robotgeek> shigs: there's a program called nvu which is excellent. it may be the same thing, tho..lemme find out
[01:53] <letibug> ciao
[01:53] <letibug> hi
[01:53] <letibug> can i have an information?
[01:53] <letibug> How can i install a new printer on ubuntu?
[01:53] <bimberi> shigs: and there's also bluefish :)
[01:53] <Mars_^> so no idea how can i install flash plugin to opera? So maybe how to install it foe firefox
[01:53] <shigs> bluefish huh
[01:53] <shigs> i'll check it out
[01:53] <shigs> cheers
[01:54] <robotgeek> shigs: http://www.nvu.com , and sudo apt-get install nvu
[01:54] <shigs> cool thanks guts
[01:54] <shigs> guys
[01:54] <shigs> i'll check them out
[01:54] <bimberi> letibug: System -> Administration -> Printing
[01:54] <orbx> does anyone know of a good GUI FTP client other than gftp?
[01:54] <bimberi> orbx: nautilus
[01:54] <bimberi> orbx: Places -> Connect to Server
[01:55] <letibug> thank!
[01:55] <orbx> Im connecting to an external server which has a password bimberi
[01:55] <bimberi> orbx: nautilus can handle that
[01:55] <bimberi> letibug: np :)
[01:55] <shigs> NVU and bluefish wont install
[01:55] <orbx> bimberi, i have already tried none of the options have password
[01:55] <shigs> but im on lunch so i'll check later
[01:56] <ps2wayne> i installed nvu fine with sudo apt-get install nvu
[01:56] <bimberi> shigs: you'll need to enable the universe repository
[01:56] <robotgeek> shigs :you need to have universe enabled
[01:56] <bimberi> ubotu tell shigs about universe
[01:56] <bimberi> ubotu tell shigs about repos
[01:56] <shigs> thanks ^__^
[01:56] <robotgeek> ubotu tell shigs about repos
[01:56] <mish> hello, I've set up a /tmp partition that is encrypted with a random key on each boot up.  The problem is that this seems to make the permissions rwxr-xr-x so I have to chmod 777 manually in text mode before logging in using gdm.  How can I do chmod automatically on start up?
[01:56] <robotgeek> damn lag
[01:56] <orbx> nope doesn't work bimberi :(
[01:57] <jessid> jessid
[01:57] <dooglus> mish: how do you encrypt it randomly on startup?
[01:57] <letibug> another information please! I have downloaded nod antivirus, i have extract it, but, how can i install it in ubundu?
[01:57] <bimberi> orbx: doesn't prompt for a password upon connect?
[01:57] <robotgeek> letibug: you don't really need antivirus
[01:57] <letibug> why?
[01:57] <orbx> bimberi: no doesn't even connect
[01:57] <mish> dooglus: my line in /etc/fstab is
[01:57] <mish> /dev/mapper/cryptotmp  /tmp     ext2    defaults        0       0
[01:57] <ps2wayne> anti-virus?
[01:58] <ps2wayne> that make that for linux hahaha
[01:58] <letibug> yes!
[01:58] <robotgeek> letibug: there aren't that many viruses for linux around
[01:58] <bimberi> orbx: hm
[01:58] <dooglus> mish: how does /dev/mapper/cryptotmp get set up though?
[01:58] <letibug> ok, but if i want install it, how can i do?
[01:58] <robotgeek> letibug: is that a linux version?
[01:58] <letibug> si
[01:58] <dooglus> mish: either way, add your chmod to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[01:58] <orbx> bimberi: oh sorry, i have found the link on desktop and yes it prompts
[01:58] <letibug> my linux version is ubundu!
[01:58] <mish> dooglus: using dm_crypt
[01:58] <ps2wayne> probably configure make sudo make install
[01:59] <letibug> yes
[01:59] <mish> dooglus: sudo cryptsetup -d /dev/urandom create cryptotmp /dev/hda6
[01:59] <dooglus> mish: you must run cryptsetup from somewhere, right?
[01:59] <dooglus> mish: how do you run that?
[01:59] <letibug> ??
[02:00] <ps2wayne> letibug go into the directory type  configure   then when that is done type make when that is done  type sudo make install
[02:00] <bimberi> orbx: ah, that's ok, i didn't realise it did that :)  (*wonders if that has changed for gnome 2.12*)
[02:00] <mish> dooglus: I ran cryptsetup once from the command line, and never since
[02:00] <mish> works fine for swap and /usr
[02:00] <robotgeek> letibug: i've no idea on how to install that anti-virus on linux. can u give me the link to where u downloaded it from?
[02:00] <dooglus> mish: I don't think cryptsetup persists between reboots
[02:00] <dooglus> mish: does it?
[02:00] <ps2wayne> your stupid for even installing an anti-virus letibug
[02:00] <ps2wayne> there is no point but use up resources
[02:00] <letibug> wait
[02:01] <mish> dooglus: it seems to
[02:01] <letibug> why ps2wayne?
[02:01] <bimberi> ps2wayne: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[02:01] <ps2wayne> yeah sorry
[02:01] <ps2wayne> there is barely any virus's for linux
[02:01] <mish> I have /home /usr and /var in a partition that has had cryptsetup run once
[02:01] <mish> they've been running fine for ages
[02:02] <tumi> isnt that slow?
[02:02] <mish> dooglus: the /usr etc and swap were set up following https://wiki.ubuntu.com//EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[02:03] <mish> dooglus: it is all in /dev/mapper/ and persists
[02:03] <mish> mish@mishine:~$ ls /dev/mapper/
[02:03] <mish> control  cryptohome  cryptoswap  cryptotmp  hda1  hda2  hda3  hda5  hda6  hda7
[02:03] <mish> m
[02:03] <dooglus> mish: ok.  I'm not familiar with this.  I use it slightly differently.
[02:03] <orbx> but bimberi, it seems my corrent user name and password don't work for the FTP
[02:04] <bimberi> orbx: has to be a valid username/password on the server
[02:04] <orbx> i know
[02:04] <orbx> it is
[02:04] <Astxist> need a bit of help a whole bunch of stuff in gnome seems to be failling
[02:05] <bimberi> orbx: do you have a ftp daemon running
[02:05] <bimberi> ?
[02:05] <mish> dooglus: it generally works fine.  I just need to run 'chmod 777 /tmp' on start up - after /tmp is mounted, but before I login through gdm.  Do you know how to do that?
[02:05] <Astxist> I can't launch the package manager
[02:05] <orbx> nope
[02:05] <Astxist> System - Administrator - Disks won't work either
[02:05] <mish> dooglus: I've found http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[02:05] <sonsnix> hey guys, does someone has some know-how about digital sound outs?
[02:05] <bimberi> orbx: ubuntu doesn't install one by default - vsftpd seems to get recommended a lot
[02:05] <MaTaKs> how can i view webcam on gaim
[02:05] <mish> dooglus - does that seem reasonable?
[02:06] <MaTaKs> im try gaim-vv but still it wont
[02:06] <orbx> ok thanks bimberi
[02:06] <mish> dooglus: although I want it to run at all run levels
[02:06] <bimberi> orbx: np :)
[02:06] <mish> dooglus: but is that the right place?
[02:06] <dooglus> mish: I see /etc/crypttab is used to restart it at boot...
[02:07] <mish> dooglus: d'oh, yep
[02:07] <dooglus> mish: I use /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh to run startup stuff
[02:07] <mish> dooglus: ~$ cat /etc/crypttab
[02:07] <mish> # <target device> <source device> <key file> <options>
[02:07] <mish> cryptohome /dev/hda7
[02:07] <mish> cryptoswap /dev/hda5 /dev/urandom swap
[02:07] <mish> cryptotmp  /dev/hda6 /dev/urandom tmp
[02:09] <mish> dooglus - I'll stick the command in bootmisc.sh - thank you :)
[02:10] <hgarcia> hi people
[02:11] <hgarcia> anyone know how to install enlightenment on ubuntu?
[02:11] <orbx> does anyone know of a good GUI ftp client i can get via the synaptic package manager?
[02:11] <robotgeek> hgarcia: sudo apt-get install enlightenment
[02:11] <ps2wayne> gftp ?
[02:11] <robotgeek> orbx: gftp ?
[02:11] <tumi> orbx: well there is gftp
[02:12] <tumi> but it'snot "good"
[02:12] <dooglus> orbx: or you could try 'gftp'
[02:12] <orbx> dooglus + tumi: i didn't really like gftp
[02:12] <Astxist> well reboot fixed that, do things always go weird when you change the clock?
[02:12] <tumi> orbx: neither do I
[02:12] <rob_p> mish:  If you do a startup script, which should work fine, just be sure it gets run after your encrypted volume gets mounted, but before gdm loads.  You'll have to see when each loads to see if bootmisc.sh will work for it.  You might need to create your own little startup script.
[02:13] <Astxist> windows and Ubuntu are kind of playing clock wars with me
[02:13] <Astxist> :)
[02:13] <hgarcia> thanks man
[02:13] <robotgeek> orbx: i prefer to use lftp, which is cli. but very good
[02:13] <ps2wayne> so get rid of windows
[02:13] <ps2wayne> ;-D
[02:13] <Astxist> not that easy
[02:13] <orbx> robotgeek: i will have a look thanks
[02:13] <ps2wayne> sure it is
[02:13] <tumi> orbx: there is a great console ftp client called yafc, but I dont know of any actually "good" gui ftp clients
[02:13] <tumi> maybe there are some for KDE
[02:13] <dooglus> orbx: you could try these: atftp, cftp, ftp-ssl, ftp, gftp-gtk, gftp-text, gftp, hsftp, inetutils-ftp, kbear, krb5-clients, lftp, libnet-sftp-ruby1.8, lukemftp, ncftp2, ncftp, socks4-clients, tftp-hpa, tftp, tnftp, waiho.app, weex, wput, and yafc
[02:13] <Goshawk> hi folks
[02:13] <foxgamer> Hi all. Is there anyone that can help with a version conflict that I am having in the xscreensaver? TIA
[02:13] <ps2wayne> dooglus shows us all up
[02:13] <ps2wayne> lol
[02:13] <Astxist> I'm not willing to get rid of something I know for something I've only used for 3 days ;p
[02:14] <robotgeek> Astxist: cat /etc/adjtime and tell me the last line
[02:14] <orbx> dooglus: wow quite a collection :)
[02:14] <Astxist> UTC
[02:14] <robotgeek> Astxist: hmm, kk
[02:14] <dooglus> orbx: I ran this command to get the list: echo $(urpmq ftp | grep -i client | grep -i ftp | sort | awk '{print $1}') | sed 's/ /, /g'
[02:15] <dooglus> (where urpmq is aliased to `apt-cache search')
[02:15] <Astxist> robotgeek, generally does changing the clock cause problems?
[02:15] <ScatterBrain> OK, Firefox just disappearing in seg-faults is really beginning to irratate me.
[02:15] <ps2wayne> no
[02:15] <Astxist> and I mean like backwards or fowards a couple of days
[02:15] <ScatterBrain> Please tell me that someone has a fix for this madness.
[02:15] <ps2wayne> ScatterBrain, try removing the firefox profile
[02:15] <ScatterBrain> ps2wayne: OK...I'll try that.
[02:15] <mobus> how to I burn an audio CD in Ubuntu?
[02:16] <Goshawk> hi nalioth
[02:16] <dooglus> ScatterBrain: or just make a new profile and try using that.
[02:16] <ps2wayne> its .firefox in your home directory
[02:16] <Goshawk> mobus: use serpentine
[02:16] <ps2wayne> yeah
[02:16] <mobus> thanks
[02:16] <ps2wayne> probably the smarter way
[02:16] <Goshawk> mobus, or use rythmbox
[02:16] <dooglus> ScatterBrain: "firefox -p" or "firefox -P" or some such
[02:16] <Goshawk> mobus, with serpentine just drag and drop
[02:17] <Goshawk> mobus, with rythmbox crete your own music list and then right click and burn audio cd
[02:17] <robotgeek> Astxist: your issue seems to be that your linux clock thinks that your system clock is in UTC while it's set to localtime (or something similiar to that) . 'man clock' has a procedure outlined. lemme see if i can pull up something better
[02:17] <Goshawk> i prefer rhythmbox anyway
[02:17] <Astxist> robotgeek, ok thank you
[02:17] <mobus> hey, the Audio CD dialog just popped up when I puyt the CD in anyway
[02:18] <mobus> thanks anyway
[02:18] <nalioth> Goshawk: howdy
[02:18] <ScatterBrain> ps2wayne and dooglus: Nope, new profile didn't help.  :(
[02:18] <robotgeek> Astxist: /etc/default/rcS and tell me if UTC is set to yes/no
[02:18] <ScatterBrain> It seems to be tied to Java/JavaScript
[02:18] <Goshawk> mobus, ah really? a new feature... :D
[02:18] <foxgamer> ScatterBrain: I've had the same problem myself. I just re-installed it and it seems fine now.
[02:19] <mobus> wait
[02:19] <ScatterBrain> foxgamer: OK, did you use the --purge when you removed it?
[02:19] <mobus> serpentine isn't letting me use MP3's
[02:19] <Astxist> robotgeek, it's set to yes
[02:19] <Goshawk> mobus, yep
[02:19] <Goshawk> mobus, have you installed the codecs yet?
[02:19] <foxgamer> ScatterBrain: I didn't remove it. I just re-installed straight over the top.
[02:19] <mobus> no...
[02:19] <mobus> where do I get them?
[02:19] <Goshawk> mobus, open synaptic and install gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:20] <mobus> I prefer apt-get but thanks
[02:20] <Goshawk> mobus, and, i think for your future, gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[02:20] <robotgeek> Astxist: set it no, sudo nano /etc/default/rcS
[02:20] <Astxist> ok
[02:20] <sherz> Hi I have a question to sudo dpkg-reconfigure setserial
[02:21] <Astxist> robotgeek, all done
[02:21] <robotgeek> Astxist: and then follow the procedure for 'localtime' outlined in man clock
[02:21] <Astxist> robotgeek, ok
[02:21] <Goshawk> mobus, done?
[02:22] <robotgeek> Astxist: and hopefully, everything will be alright
[02:22] <dooglus> ScatterBrain: you could try cleaning out the plugins directory
[02:22] <ScatterBrain> dooglus: I'm not using any plugins...
[02:22] <robotgeek> Astxist: 'man tzconfig' makes a interesting read :)
[02:23] <Astxist> ok I'll give that a look too
[02:23] <orbx> does anyone know where i can get a flash player plug in for konqueror?
[02:23] <Goshawk> ok tyme to have lunch... see you folks
[02:23] <ps2wayne> ScatterBrain have your reinstall firefox?
[02:24] <ScatterBrain> ps2wayne: I just tried that...no dice.
[02:24] <ps2wayne> ScatterBrain: and you removed the .firefox from your home directory?
[02:24] <ps2wayne> try removing firefox and then install firefox ?
[02:25] <ScatterBrain> ps2wayne: I didn't have a .firefox, I had a .mozilla/firefox and I deleted the from .mozilla down.
[02:25] <ps2wayne> huh.. i wonder why i have .firefox
[02:25] <ps2wayne> i have .mozilla to though
[02:26] <Astxist> robotgeek Astxist: and then follow the procedure for 'localtime' outlined in man clock <- Sorry but I don't know how to do this
[02:26] <Astxist> robotgeek, thought after reading the man clock I'd get it but nope no idea
[02:26] <robotgeek> Astxist: hmm, okay. i'll guide u thru it
[02:27] <Astxist> robotgeek, ok thank you
[02:28] <robotgeek> Astxist: sudo nano /etc/adjtime and remove everything in there.put  '0.0 0 0.0' (without quotes) in the first line. save and exit
[02:28] <Astxist> ok
[02:29] <Arnald> I am trying to go from wireless client config to ad hoc, but I can't get an IP address by DHCP.  Are there any particular settings I need over and above client config?
[02:30] <Arnald> I have disabled WEP, changed SSID to broadcast and enabled DHCP server on the AP as well as the main server
[02:30] <Astxist> robotgeek, done
[02:30] <ps2wayne> What is providing DHCP Arnald?
[02:30] <robotgeek> Astxist: run 'sudo clock -a'
[02:30] <Arnald> two machines ATM, although the main server is currently invisible owing to lack of RF link ;)
[02:31] <Arnald> I normally let DHCP pass through the AP
[02:31] <foxgamer> Is there anyone that can help with a version conflict that I am having in the xscreensaver?
[02:31] <dooglus> looking through that list of FTP clients, only kbear (KDE) and gftp (GNOME) seem to have guis.  the rest are all console apps.
[02:31] <Astxist> robotgeek, sudo: clock: command not found
[02:32] <robotgeek> Astxist: hmm, weird. try clock -a
[02:32] <Astxist> robotgeek, command not found
[02:32] <robotgeek> Astxist: damn, but man clock showed up?
[02:32] <dooglus> there's a config file somewhere which tells ubuntu whether the BIOS stores the time in localtime or GMT.  I can't find it though.  Anyone?
[02:33] <Astxist> robotgeek, hwclock was detailed instead
[02:33] <robotgeek> dooglus: that's /etc/default/rcS
[02:33] <djk_> Astxist: then use sudo hwclock -a
[02:34] <Astxist> djk_, -a isn't shown in the --help output
[02:34] <robotgeek> Astxist: hmm, it's in man hwclock
[02:34] <djk_> Astxist: it is in the man page though
[02:34] <Astxist> ok
[02:34] <Astxist> I'll do so then
[02:34] <dooglus> robotgeek: so it is!  thanks.
[02:35] <Astxist> robotgeek, command done
[02:35] <dooglus> robotgeek: what does windows use?  UTC or localtime?
[02:35] <robotgeek> dooglus: never dual booted one. (ppc) the man tzconfig says localtime
[02:36] <dooglus> robotgeek: right.  so that rcS file should have "UTC=no" to work with windows.
[02:36] <robotgeek> Astxist: set the date using ntpdate / date
[02:36] <robotgeek> dooglus: i wud believe so
[02:36] <Astxist> ok
[02:37] <Astxist> robotgeek, says it can't find host date
[02:37] <orbx> does anyone know how to install flash player for konqueror?
[02:37] <robotgeek> Astxist: one sec
[02:37] <Astxist> robotgeek, ok
[02:38] <Red-Sox>  /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:43] <robotgeek> Astxist: damn, figuring out the date command is killing me. try 'sudo ntpdate  pool.ntp.org'
[02:43] <Astxist> robotgeek, ok
[02:43] <nitrocks> while in the process of installing breezy badger last night.. my install bombed out just before it could install a boot loader.. how do i go about installing grub manually?
[02:43] <Seveas> grub-install '(hd0,0)'
[02:43] <Amaranth> you'll need a live cd
[02:43] <Seveas> (for installing it on hda1
[02:43] <Seveas> )
[02:43] <robotgeek> Astxist: then run 'sudo clock -w'
[02:44] <Astxist> robotgeek, I'm guessing clock will be hwclock
[02:44] <robotgeek> Astxist: in your case, hwclock
[02:44] <Astxist> robotgeek, ok
[02:44] <nitrocks> seveas: what would be the best way to boot into the operating system, w/o grub installed
[02:44] <robotgeek> Astxist: that's abt it, i guess
[02:45] <Astxist> robotgeek, ok all done
[02:45] <Seveas> nitrocks, live cd with grub
[02:45] <robotgeek> Astxist: i think u are all set
[02:45] <Reformed> man OpenOffice.Org2 is nice
[02:45] <Seveas> and manually booting the installed system with it :)
[02:45] <nitrocks> seveas: can i use the installation ISO?
[02:45] <nitrocks> seveas: i dont have a copy of the live cd on hand
[02:45] <Seveas> nitrocks, hmm, no idea actually
[02:45] <Astxist> robotgeek, time looks all correct to me, thanks for the help
[02:45] <Seveas> should be possible i think
[02:45] <Reformed> I cannot believe that Sun has the balls to Charge 80 bucks for a product that is not as advanced
[02:45] <robotgeek> Astxist: only a reboot will tell :)
[02:46] <Robbster> lo all. I'm tring to se my ethernet ADSL router to connect to two separate service providers at the same time. Can I do this?
[02:46] <pharm> Robbster: No.
[02:46] <Astxist> robotgeek, heh ok
[02:47] <pharm> Robbster: not at the same time over the same phone line.
[02:47] <Astxist> time to check then
[02:47] <robotgeek> Astxist: good luck
[02:47] <Astxist> robotgeek, should I boot into windows and check it for good mesure?
[02:47] <robotgeek> Astxist: yeah, do that
[02:47] <Astxist> robotgeek, ok thanks again
[02:47] <Robbster> Can't I set up my PC as a pppoe client and create ppp0 and ppp1 and then sort out the routing?
[02:48] <Robbster> ... and just habe a dumb ADSL router on the network?
[02:48] <Seveas> Robbster, why not
[02:48] <Robbster> Seveas: I'm asking if I can.
[02:49] <Seveas> yes you can
[02:50] <Robbster> Seveas: Great. How
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[02:53] <pharm> Robbster: ADSL sets up an ATM connection to your ADSL providers network over the phone line. Your phone exchange routes all the ATM packets it gets from the ADSL connection to a single provider. Unless your local exchange has extra-whizzy ADSL bits that can route packets to two separate providers then you can't do what you're asking. (Unless you have two phone lines & two ADSL modems...)
[02:53] <pharm> Robbster: to put it another way -- you can do it if your phone provider provides you with a way to do it. Don't hold your breath...
[02:53] <coz> hello all
[02:54] <nitrocks> can someone give me directions on how to make an ubuntu boot disk that will bypass grub?
[02:54] <coz> I have a ta.bz2 package for linux wacom driver. Is it possible to install this onto ubuntu?
[02:54] <coz> tar.bz2
[02:55] <Robbster> Well, more correctly, I want to connect two two networks for the same provider. I need to connect to our ISP's 'Internet' network, and a VPN. Both at the same provider. I know that it has been done (with a very popular OS), but I want to do it with Ubuntu.
[02:56] <coz> can a tar.bz2 package be installed onto ubuntu?
[02:56] <pharm> Robbster: that's different. The VPN is probably tunnelled over IP.
[02:57] <pharm> Robbster: although it could be directly tunnelled over the ATM connection with the right networking hardware at both ends
[02:57] <Robbster> I'm thinking that if I can get my PC to authenticate via pppoe, then I can at least play with the settings to configure a 2nd connection to the internet and then just change the authentication details to get to the VPN. and then sort out the routing later.
[02:57] <pharm> Robbster: You are confusing the internet connection and the VPN connection. These are not the same things.
[02:57] <Robbster> pharm: is .za I doubt that we have the 'right networking hardware' at all :)
[02:58] <Robbster> pharm: okay. as I understand it the VPN is just a separate IP network that is private.
[02:58] <pharm> Robbster: probably.
[02:58] <Robbster> pharm: so I authenticate to the VPN, and I'm connected to this quiet, private network.
[02:59] <pharm> Robbster: it might well look like a separate ppp connection with some setups, where the ppp is a point-to-point encrypted link over another IP network.
[02:59] <Astxist> robotgeek, thank you all worked out well
[02:59] <robotgeek> Astxist: great!
[02:59] <Astxist> ^_^
[02:59] <Astxist> yeah I logged the conversation
[02:59] <Robbster> pharm: ouch. lemme try digest that. Got any digestives? <grin>
[02:59] <Astxist> all it my notes for stuff I need to know :)
[03:00] <robotgeek> Astxist: why not make a wiki article while you are at it?
[03:00] <pharm> Robbster: :)
[03:00] <pharm> Robbster: google vpn ppp brings up http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/ppp-ssh/
[03:00] <Astxist> well I don't think I'm really fit for it
[03:00] <Astxist> someone with more experience would be netter
[03:00] <Astxist> *better
[03:00] <Robbster> pharm: I think we are going down the wrong path, and that is my fault.
[03:01] <robotgeek> Astxist: i'm sure someone else has faced that problem. you won't find out unless you do it :)
[03:01] <lanjelot> guys, what's the command to update the whatis database ?
[03:01] <Astxist> robotgeek, ok I'll take a look
[03:01] <robotgeek> Astxist: great!
[03:01] <Robbster> the 2nd connection, the 'VPN' connection is just a private network, over IP without a connection to the internet at all. Secured through a user/pwd for the ADSL network.
[03:02] <Robbster> 1st connection = std ISP connection to internet.
[03:02] <Robbster> we have services on the 'VPN' that we need access to, and at the same time, we need access to the internet.
[03:02] <pharm> Robbster: the VPN is usually secured via some sort of password or public key encryption set up. Otherwise it can be read on the public net you're passing it over...
[03:03] <tz> hi
[03:03] <tz> hello
[03:03] <pharm> Robbster: That's perfectly doable, so long as the routes are setup correctly.
[03:03] <tz> is there anyone know the details about the kernel
[03:03] <pharm> tz: Linus. But even he doesn't know everything :)
[03:04] <leagris> shared homedir across several host. Kde tend to mess cups print setting between local printer and remote cups. Anyone tryed to deal with that ?
[03:04] <tz> ok, a joke
[03:04] <tz> i know
[03:05] <tz> i just want to get some suggestion about how i can learn the kernel source code
[03:05] <pharm> leagris: lookup policy based desktop & KDE...
[03:05] <leagris> tz Linus and Alan Cox may know that very precisely. However you may find many usefull info via the kernel mailing list and provided docs
[03:06] <pharm> tz: http://www.kernelnewbies.org/
[03:07] <leagris> pharm, yes, what type of plicy ?
[03:07] <Astxist> heh wikiguide is huge
[03:07] <Astxist> too late to read this much
[03:07] <leagris> pharm, I have 3 computers sharing the same NFS mounted home. One of the host act as server for NFS and printer
[03:08] <leagris> pharm, when using client host, printer settings must talk to the cups server
[03:08] <pharm> leagris: http://dot.kde.org/1101137904/ has some useful links
[03:08] <sonsnix> hey guys, when i try to output something on my IEC958 device, i don't only hear nothing, but the player doesn't even advance
[03:08] <Steinbeck1> morning all
[03:09] <pharm> leagris: or why not just always talk to the CUPS server regardless of where you're logged in?
[03:09] <leagris> pharm, When using local server host, printer setting must talk to local printer, but ket keeps per users settings un the shared home ddir. overriding each change
[03:09] <pharm> leagris: policies lets you set things on a per-machine basis as well.
[03:09] <tz> ok,got it thanks a lot
[03:10] <pharm> leagris: or so I believe
[03:10] <leagris> pharm, yop, didn't think of it. Must allow localhost for cups server and always use network even on server :)
[03:10] <pharm> leagris: no problem :)
[03:11] <Katsumoto> I'd like to install aMSN (http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/amsn/ ), but I don;'t know which one to get...
[03:11] <leagris> thanks you wakend my mind pharm :)
[03:11] <nalioth> Katsumoto: use synaptic to install it
[03:11] <nalioth> Katsumoto: enable the universe repository and you'll find it in your pkg manager
[03:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Katsumoto about repos
[03:12] <Katsumoto> oke I'll search
[03:12] <nalioth> Katsumoto: while you're there, enable multiverse, too
[03:15] <WinZ> Friends! with what name is an USB HDD may be in /dev/ if it's not automounting ?
[03:15] <sethrd> Any careelp me slove a mouse error?  psmouse.c lost sync.
[03:17] <googlemanof> hi,everyone
[03:18] <googlemanof> just join and leave?no talk?
[03:19] <nick01_> hi- I can't burn a cd- it sais dma speed to slow
[03:19] <nick01_> :(
[03:19] <tapanim> gam_server take 70% of cpu and 70% of ram
[03:19] <nick01_> is dma not enabled or what ?
[03:19] <DaaJeH> How can I get the ubuntu live cd to save the updates to it so when I reboot and use it next time I don't have to go through that agian?
[03:20] <_HUST_> hi,all.is there anyone knows where is the .emacs.el of breezy?
[03:21] <_HUST_> i have just found .emacs.d in my $HOME
[03:21] <KurtKraut> I'm writing a wiki in portuguese about Xubuntu and I would like to show a screenshot of the Ubuntu installer, the first screen so be prompted after the installing CD is inserted and booted. THis is where de Ubuntu Server mode could be installed. Does anyone know where I may find this image ?
[03:21] <holycow> hey guys, anyone know if there are replacement icons for open office out there?  the default ones are ugly
[03:22] <_HUST_> big family :-)
[03:24] <Robbste1> can I use my linux PC to authenticate through an ethernet ADSL router. I need help getting pppoe set up.
[03:24] <_HUST_> pppoeconf
[03:26] <Robbste1> _HUST_: where do I get it? is it already installed.
[03:27] <_HUST_> in ur terminal ,and input"pppoeconf",enter.fllowing the instruction step by step
[03:27] <Toran> hey guys, what tool can I use to write a .mpg I have in the correct format/size for DVD to a DVD?
[03:28] <Arnald> So, does ad-hoc wireless work in ubuntu?
[03:29] <Robbste1> _HUST_: awesome. I'm running that now.
[03:30] <_HUST_> so
[03:31] <_HUST_> when u wanna connet internet,input"sudo pon dsl-provider" in terminal
[03:31] <Robbste1> _HUST_: says it can't find the pppoe concentrator. huh? I'm currently using the router on the LAN. Does it need to be connected directly to the PC?
[03:31] <dookie> hi there
[03:31] <Robbste1> lo dookie
[03:32] <dookie> a little question.
[03:32] <dookie> Is it possible to reinstall the sound-system like the ubuntu-installer did it at the beginning
[03:33] <gypsymauro> hello
[03:33] <WinZ> Can anyone give me /etc/fstab, who has working automounting USB devices??
[03:34] <gypsymauro> I've installed breezy on different models of laptop and on every of them I have problems with cpufreq, it stays on the minimum clock possible..any hint? (I made chmod +s to the cpufreq program to manage it with the applet too)
[03:35] <_HUST_> what do u mean? a router? or a adsl modem?
[03:35] <Robbste1> _HUST_ ADSL router. ethernet thingy :)
[03:37] <_HUST_> oh,sorry.i can't help you.i i used my adsl modem to connect internet.:-) .
[03:37] <Robbste1> Internet)----[adsl router] -------------[eth0 on PC] 
[03:39] <limguohong91> I connect to my ftp via (Places> Connect to Server) but i don't seem able to chmod my files by using that "program" May I know how to I chmods file?
[03:39] <_HUST_> oh ,my god ,so your  adsl should be a modem with router function?just like mine.
[03:40] <yancheng> i had installed samba. how i can share my folder out to LAN??
[03:41] <topyli> damn my real-life desktop is a mess. i need some folders
[03:41] <_HUST_> 1.pppoeconf,and input your account and password. then save it. OK! i did it successful.
[03:41] <limguohong91>  I connect to my ftp via (Places> Connect to Server) but i don't seem able to chmod my files by using that "program" May I know how to I chmods file?
[03:42] <nxv_> in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo it is discribed to install azureus through apt-get. but i cant find it with apt-search. is the wiki outdated at this point?
[03:43] <_HUST_> 2.r u sure you have opend your rounter?
[03:44] <_HUST_> 3.your adsl rounter should be linked eth0
[03:45] <_HUST_> oooooooo
[03:45] <_HUST_> :-)
[03:47] <ceej> whats the best way to install gtk-gnutella i've tried  sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[03:47] <ceej>  but that dosn't seem to work
[03:48] <simonsbr> hello someone can help me to configure adsl ? I can connect with pppoeconf but when i restart my computer i need to do it again..
[03:48] <CosmoDad> can anyone recommend a video editing software capable of opening avi and mpeg files?
[03:49] <Katsu2> Kino video editor?
[03:49] <Katsu2> or does that not work with avi/mpeg
[03:49] <CosmoDad> Katsu2: as far as I could tell, it only opens DV
[03:50] <_HUST_> simonsbr: when you restart your computer ,use the"sudo pon dsl-provider"in your terminal.soon your computer is roaming in the internet.ahha
[03:51] <_HUST_> if u wanna disconnect,use"sudo poff" or "sudo poff -a"
[03:51] <Katsu2> I just installed aMSN with synaptic pckg mngr. and I'm using it right now...but how can i start webcam convo's with it?
[03:52] <LathropWells> Hi, - "FontGlide" Screensaver using firefox newsRSS feed is in Arabic and english- how do i fix this?
[03:53] <Janbanan> When i run  sudo apt-get install restricted-modules-$(uname -r). I get E: Could not find package restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic
[03:56] <Katsu2> I just installed aMSN with synaptic pckg mngr. and I'm using it right now...but how can i start webcam convo's with it?
[03:56] <Katsu2> any1 ?
[03:57] <Astxist> Katsu2, nope sorry no idea
[03:57] <eedge> how do I change my kde font sizes?
[03:57] <eedge> I can hardly read xchat.
[03:57] <Katsu2> hmk
[03:57] <Toma-> Katsu2: you need the amsn cvs
[03:57] <bjorn-henrik> does anyone know how to install Open1X in ubuntu?
[03:58] <Toma-> Bjoern-Erik: openNX?
[03:58] <Toma-> err
[03:58] <jino> can any one tell how to get gui login in breey
[03:58] <bjorn-henrik> open1x
[03:58] <Toma-> jino: it has it by default
[03:58] <Katsu2> Toma- amsn cvs can be found in the synaptic ?
[03:59] <bjorn-henrik> to make ubuntu work on 802.1x connections
[03:59] <Toma-> Katsu2: no.
[03:59] <jino> Toma - i upgraded from hoary..But i didnt find it
[03:59] <aftertaf> Katsu2:  http://amsn.sourceforge.net/
[04:00] <Toma-> Katsu2: the amsn video conferencing sux, especially if u have a tv card and webcam :(
[04:00] <jino> also i am afraid my system have become a bit slow as well
[04:00] <gepatino> eedge try changind xchat fonts in configuration/preferences
[04:00] <Katsu2> I dont have a tv card
[04:00] <Katsu2> it's usb.
[04:00] <Katsu2> logitech cam
[04:00] <Toma-> Katsu2: http://amsn.sourceforge.net/modules.php?name=CVS
[04:01] <Toma-> get the easy to use script
[04:01] <Toma-> jino: u cant fresh install? :(
[04:02] <jino> Toma- it is painfull as i have to back up all my data
[04:02] <Katsu2> ok it's downloaded...but nothing happens when I click it
[04:02] <Toma-> Katsu2: run it from a terminal window
[04:02] <jino> Toma- is it better to fresh install..?
[04:02] <Katsu2> oki
[04:03] <Janbanan> When i run  sudo apt-get install restricted-modules-$(uname -r). I get E: Could not find package restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic. why?
[04:03] <Toma-> jino: always better. better to keep a /home partition so that u can fresh install without any hassle
[04:03] <Mango> Hey - can someone tell me how to unmount an SMB share? I chose Places - Connect to Server. which connected me to the server and placed an icon on the desktop. I used to be able to just right click on the desktop icon and select unmount. For whatever reason that is not working for me knoe.
[04:04] <Mango> actually the option to unmount is not there!
[04:04] <jino> Toma- how can i do it ? I wont lose any data?
[04:04] <meheren> is there a way to like "spin down hard drive" in linux?
[04:04] <krak`nix> anyone had problems with subs in vlc not resizing when you go fullscreen? :/
[04:04] <occy> meheren, heh
[04:04] <meheren> occy:hi
[04:04] <occy> meheren, Howdy
[04:04] <occy> meheren, like your lappie?
[04:05] <Toma-> jino, when you first create a system with partitioning, you can manually edit it so u can keep a spare partition thats about 80% of your drive for /home, and the rest for / and swap.
[04:05] <jayakumar2> meheren, if it's an ide drive, see hdparm(8) -S
[04:05] <meheren> occy:cool thx
[04:05] <ubuntu_> nice
[04:05] <ubuntu_> :)
[04:05] <jino> ok
[04:06] <ubuntu_> hi jino
[04:06] <meheren> occy: i really like having my own computer and i REALLY  like linux
[04:06] <ceej> i've installed Aegis virus scanner but it dosn't show up in Accesories like its suposed too, any reason why?
[04:06] <ubuntu_> just got my live cd from ubuntu
[04:06] <jino> ubuntu_  ,hii
[04:06] <ubuntu_> its perfect
[04:06] <Toma-> ceej: restart the gnome-panel
[04:06] <ubuntu_> i love it :D
[04:07] <ceej> Toma-:nope still not showing
[04:07] <occy> meheren, heh, just type  /query occy
[04:07] <Toma-> ceej: u sure it makes a gnome menu entry?
[04:08] <electron_> hi, how do I check user info, like phone, address ect
[04:08] <electron_> you know when you create an account and it asks for all of that, how do I view it?
[04:08] <ceej> Toma-: well its ticket in the list on add applications
[04:08] <Toran> ok guys, I authored a DVD from an AVI, but a small portion at the bottom of the video had been cut off. I am using 720x480 NTSC resolution. There are several other resolution options for NTSC, though, including: 704x480, 352x480, and 352x240. Any Idea which I should use to keep the bottom part of the video from getting cut off? I should probably note that it was only a very small portion of the video that was getting cut off at the bottom, but, it was sti
[04:08] <Toran> ll there.
[04:09] <Toma-> Toran: try asking in a more video savvy channel, like #mplayer or something
[04:09] <Toran> going there now
[04:09] <Toran> I just thought of that
[04:09] <herrpoonstrikes> ive just installed a new hard drive in my machine and dont know what to do next :(
[04:10] <herrpoonstrikes> ive tried following this guide but am stuck https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive?highlight=%28drive%29%7C%28hard%29
[04:10] <electron_> how do I check user info, like phone, address ect, you know when you create an account and it asks for all of that, how do I view it?
[04:10] <ceej> Toma-: any reason why its not showing?
[04:10] <herrpoonstrikes> electron - system-admin-users and groups?
[04:11] <Toma-> ceej: could be many things.
[04:11] <gepatino> herrpoonstrikes, parition the hdd using fdisk or qparted
[04:11] <basetta> hi guys.A dumm question how i can stop the boot starting of apache ?
[04:11] <Toma-> ceej: probably easiest just to make your own menu item.
[04:11] <herrpoonstrikes> k, but i dont know what the ahrd drive is called
[04:11] <Toma-> ceej: how did u restart the panel?
[04:11] <gepatino> herrpoonstrikes, then create file system with the commands mkfs.* (read the mans)
[04:11] <herrpoonstrikes> gepatino: how do i find that out?
[04:11] <ceej> Toma- killalll gnome-panel
[04:12] <herrpoonstrikes> gepatino: when i try "sudo dmesg|less"
[04:12] <Janbanan> When I run sudo apt-get install restricted-modules-$(uname -r) I get E: Could not find package restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic
[04:12] <herrpoonstrikes> i cant seem to see my hard drive
[04:12] <Toma-> ceej: good. however, i installed something the other day and it only came up after a gnome restart... tried logout-login?
[04:13] <gepatino> herrpoonstrikes, if its an ide drive, try /dev/hdb or /dev/hdc
[04:13] <ceej> ill try that...but have u got aegis in the menu?
[04:13] <Toma-> ceej: nope
[04:13] <herrpoonstrikes> hmm ok
[04:14] <Toma-> ceej: failing that, Apps > System Tools > Apps Menu Editor and just add an entry
[04:14] <ceej> Toma-:k thanks
[04:14] <Toma-> ceej: why use a virus scanner for anyway..?
[04:14] <electron_> herrpoonstrikes, I don't use X
[04:14] <ceej> Toma-: dunno always good to ahve one
[04:15] <Toma-> ceej: u should check out chkrootkit aswell if ure paranoid ;)
[04:16] <Mango> how to unmount and smb share from the cli?
[04:17] <mahangu> how can i make read only files writable?
[04:17] <Toma-> Mango: "man smbmount"
[04:17] <smithr5_> could anyone show me how to upgrade to ubutu 10 without having to download unto a cd or dvd
[04:17] <gepatino> mahangu, from the console using chmod
[04:18] <bigmoe> can anyone tell me what are the packages for compiling c programs
[04:18] <gepatino> mahangu, from nautilus (gnome) using right click/properties
[04:18] <bigmoe> they are essentials or something
[04:18] <Toma-> bigmoe: build-essentials
[04:18] <bigmoe> thansk
[04:19] <mahangu> gepatino, it says im not the owner, in nautiuls
[04:19] <mahangu> what is the chmod syntax again?
[04:19] <mahangu> chmod +777 ?
[04:19] <reginatto> can anyone tell me how do I install the codecs at Totem? There is no "Add plugins" on preferences tab....
[04:20] <topyli> reginatto: which codecs?
[04:20] <Mango> Toma-, Thanks but I dont see anything relating to unmounting - only mounting.
[04:20] <topyli> reginatto: install the w32codecs package and you have most everything
[04:20] <gepatino> mahangu, if youre not the owner, you cannot change properties on the file
[04:20] <Toma-> Mango: smbunmount ?
[04:20] <gepatino> mahangu, try using sudo chmod from a console
[04:21] <bigmoe> and can i use apt-get install build-essentials
[04:21] <reginatto> topyli, i have downloaded essential-20050412 at mplayer.com
[04:21] <topyli> reginatto: oh, you like to do it the hard way :)
[04:21] <Mango> Toma-, for whatever reason I cant run smbunmount from the cli. Is that possible?
[04:21] <reginatto> topyli, does it have a easy way? hehe
[04:22] <topyli> reginatto: yeah, there's a debian package
[04:22] <Toma-> Mango: probably not
[04:23] <CarlFK> what is the fstab options to mount ntfs on hda1 so that all the users have read access ?
[04:24] <CarlFK> ...hda1 ...hda1 ntfs x,y,z...
[04:24] <topyli> reginatto: go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats , click 3.3.1 "Codecs" in the menu
[04:24] <topyli> reginatto: it tells you how
[04:24] <reginatto> topyli, thanks dude... help me a lot...   :D
[04:24] <mustard5> CarlFK, try the script at this link...
[04:25] <mustard5> !windowsdrives
[04:25] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:25] <topyli> reginatto: easier for me than telling you how and where to install the codecs by hand =)
[04:25] <CarlFK> thanks
[04:27] <DShepherd> hey
[04:27] <emgee> hey
[04:29] <sethrd> Anyone have problems with dmesg saying psmouse.c lost sync? It is really starting to make me mad...
[04:31] <sethrd> amaroK uses 100% CPU...
[04:32] <icewt> xmms doesn't
[04:32] <sethrd> Blah. I don't like xmms.
[04:32] <sethrd> Give me Banshee or amaroK.
[04:33] <sethrd> Sad though. I'm a die hard GNOME fan, yet I prefer amaroK over Banshee.
[04:34] <icewt> and i'm using KDE but i prefer xmms ;)
[04:34] <Toma-> amarok is pretty rad
[04:34] <Toma-> wish i could be bothered with kde-libs and amarok :(
[04:34] <sethrd> I just can't wait till I get my MP3 player.
[04:34] <sethrd> apt-get it.
[04:36] <sethrd> STOP IT!
[04:36] <sethrd> I want to kill my mouse!
[04:41] <HaschHase> hi guys
[04:41] <HaschHase> does anybody have here the sony ericsson w800i
[04:41] <HaschHase> and can tell me how to get data to it?
[04:41] <HaschHase> i can copy images on the recognized "usbdisk" , the memory of my mobile phone
[04:41] <HaschHase> but it doesnt store, i dont see it on the handy
[04:42] <HaschHase> if anybody has experience with this plz tell me
[04:42] <brum> could someone please point me to a good resource, book or website on linux memory management
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> brum you trying to understand it? or tweak somthing?
[04:43] <brum> to get a better understanding of it
[04:44] <sethrd> As much as I hate to say this, this mouse thing is almost making me want Windows back.
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> I do belive theres a few books on the Linux Kernel that have details on it. But ive never looked into it much.
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> sethrd,  mouse thang?
[04:45] <Lethargic> can some1 help me?
[04:45] <Lethargic> when i boot from the live-cd, i always get an error "enter preinstalled session"
[04:45] <sethrd> Dr_Willis: About every 20 seconds, my system locks up for 5-10 seconds, making it rather unusable. dmesg is saying psmouse.c lost sync.
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> Hmm - you got a PS2 mouse?
[04:46] <heien> HI everyone.  I'm trying to install Paragon NTFS. In the readme, it says following: Build the IFS driver by using the gcc compiler provided by
[04:46] <heien>    Linux (this step will make the binary module). How do i do this?
[04:46] <Toma-> heien: good luck. try installing "build-essentials"
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> it may be a simple ./configure and then make, and then 'sudo make install'
[04:47] <sethrd> It will randomly jump around and open programs and stuff.
[04:47] <heien> Toma-,  i have that one installed.
[04:47] <sethrd> This install is less then 2 days old.
[04:47] <Toma-> well do what Dr_Willis said. hopefully.
[04:47] <Toma-> bbl.
[04:47] <HaschHase> hmm
[04:48] <sethrd> I looked on forums, and no one has a solution yet.
[04:48] <heien> Dr_Willis, when i try to 'make' i get this: make: *** no rule to create target 'objfre/libufsd.a' needed by 'all'. Stop.
[04:49] <gepatino> sethrd, does your mouse have a wheel/third button?
[04:49] <HaschHase> how can i write something like this?
[04:49] <sethrd> Wheel, yes.
[04:49] <HaschHase> ... /Media files/
[04:49] <HaschHase> he only recognizes files
[04:49] <HaschHase> the shell
[04:49] <sethrd> I'm not using it when the system locks up though.
[04:49] <HaschHase> ?
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> cd ../Med<tab>
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> or cd 'Media files'
[04:50] <HaschHase> ah thanks
[04:50] <Katsu2> I've installed aMSN with synaptic and I downloaded amsn-installer.tar.gz (aMSN CVS) so I'll be able to use my webcam, but how do I get it properly installed?
[04:50] <mwe> or use backslashes before spaces
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> or escape the space with a / or is it a \ - i get backwards
[04:51] <heien> Katsu2,  use mercury if you want to use webcam in linux. its the best
[04:51] <mwe> it's backslash
[04:51] <gepatino> sethrd, try using IM/PS2 as the mouse module in xorg.conf, and restart X
[04:51] <HaschHase> hmm well does nobody have here a sony ericsson handy?
[04:51] <HaschHase> i cant upload anything to my handy without the software, somehow
[04:51] <HaschHase> does anybody know a trick?
[04:52] <heien> Define handy.
[04:52] <Katsu2> heien: is it like aMSN?
[04:52] <HaschHase> sony ericsson w800 i heien
[04:52] <sethrd> gepatino: Where am I looking? For option protocol, IMPS/2 is already set.
[04:52] <gepatino> sethrd,  are you loking at /etc/X11/xorg.xonf?
[04:52] <heien> Katsu2, its better!
[04:53] <heien> but yes, kinda same.
[04:53] <sethrd> gepatino: Yes.
[04:53] <Katsu2> ohk and I'l be able to use an usb webcam with it?
[04:53] <HaschHase> hm
[04:53] <sethrd> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:53] <heien> HaschHase, then it should be possible to make somekinda bluetooth connection, or isnt there USB-access on that phone?
[04:53] <heien> Dr_Willis, when i try to 'make' i get this: make: *** no rule to create target 'objfre/libufsd.a' needed by 'all'. Stop.
[04:53] <gepatino> sethrd, Option "Emulate3Buttons" "off"
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> heien,  yea.. so :P  No clue here.
[04:54] <heien> :D okay...
[04:54] <heien> Has anyone tried those paragon ntfs drivers?
[04:54] <gepatino> sethrd, Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
[04:54] <gepatino> sethrd, Option "Buttons" "3"
[04:54] <mwe> HaschHase: maybe try a different channel. I don't see how your qu
[04:54] <HaschHase> well i can access everything on the mobile phone, its mounted as an usb disk
[04:54] <HaschHase> heien
[04:54] <Katsu2> heien: mercury supports webcamconvo's ?
[04:54] <mwe> HaschHase: discard that please, sorry
[04:54] <sethrd> gepatino: Off or false? It's set to true right now.
[04:55] <HaschHase> but i cant upload anything to the mobile phone
[04:55] <heien> Katsu2,  yes
[04:55] <bettong_BOFH> can someone help me to get my dual monitors up and runing in ubuntu?
[04:55] <Katsu2> oke thanks a lot :)!
[04:55] <gepatino> sethrd, try setting it to false
[04:55] <bettong_BOFH> i have an nvidia geforce 4000 mx
[04:55] <heien> HaschHase, but cant you transfer files to the usb disk? then it must be visible on the fone?
[04:55] <heien> phone*
[04:56] <HaschHase> i can transfer, but nothing shown on the phone, and when i put the cable into the phone again and open the usb folder, the file isnt there anymore
[04:56] <sethrd> gepatino: Be back in a moment.
[04:56] <HaschHase> heien
[04:56] <smithr5__> how to upgrade from ubutu 4 to 10 without the dvd
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> bettong_BOFH,  i tried ages ago.. then gave up (well 4 mo ago) - seems you can use EITHER the xcinreama (sp?) Method - OR you can use the Nvidia method.
[04:56] <Goatocausto> hi all
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> bettong_BOFH,  my problem was that it alwyas defaulted to the wrong monitor. - so i gave up.
[04:56] <Seveas> smithr5__, with apt :)
[04:56] <Seveas> !tell smithr5__ about breezy
[04:56] <heien> HaschHase, this happens sometimes i ubuntu, dunno why, but try to transfer the files two or more times, and unplug the usb from the machina, and look at the phone again
[04:56] <bettong_BOFH> Dr_Willis,  can you point me in the right direction?
[04:57] <HaschHase> did 10 times heien
[04:57] <bettong_BOFH> so i can give it a try
[04:57] <bettong_BOFH> i am useing the nvidia-glx drivers
[04:57] <bettong_BOFH> with nvidia-settings installed
[04:58] <slept> bettong_BOFH, you have to add to a section for the second screen and customize the section where you define which screen uses which resolution and so on, its well documented in /usr/..../doc/..
[04:58] <orbx> does anyone know how to install php 5, once it has been downloaded from the synoptic package manager?
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> bettong_BOFH,  the xcinerama faq/howto/wiki/google sould be a start. OR the wikis for nvidia perhaps have info.
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> bettong_BOFH,  i did a lot of googling. :P and got the 2 methods sort of mixed up
[04:59] <bettong_BOFH> ok
[04:59] <HaschHase> heien, where can i find udev?
[04:59] <bettong_BOFH> i will try the xcinerama for now and see what happens
[05:00] <Katsu2> heien: I just installed mercury, where is it installed. I cannot find it in Applications> Internet
[05:00] <Goatocausto> hey  - this is a dumb question, but i am running windows XP at the moment, if i download Ubuntu, i guess i would have to format and then install ubuntu and then xp? or ??? I know I can use the live cd install, but that just boots off cd? so I wouldnt be able to change things in Ubuntu or customise it ??
[05:00] <bettong_BOFH> do i get xinerama from synaptic or do i go somewhere diffrent?
[05:00] <zdennis> is the process for creating a custom kernel package the same in Ubuntu as it is in Debian?
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> Goatocausto,  Live CD does not have an install that I know of.
[05:01] <sethrd> gepatino: Nope, still locking up.
[05:01] <bettong_BOFH> so i how do i get xinerama?
[05:02] <Goatocausto> ok
[05:02] <mahangu> Goatocausto, some liveCDs let you save settings to a hard disk
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> Goatocausto, linux wants to install to its own partition, or own hard drive.
[05:02] <mahangu> so you can boot again but have that setup
[05:02] <mahangu> but seriously, it's not worth the hassle
[05:02] <mahangu> install ubuntu, you'll never look back
[05:02] <mahangu> :)
[05:02] <Goatocausto> sorry im new to this [ubuntu]  I used some linux aaages ago
[05:02] <mahangu> i was an XP user just a few months back
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> Yea. Many Live cd's can use a usbthumbdrive or whatever as a setting storage place.
[05:02] <Goatocausto> yeah no i understand that
[05:03] <Goatocausto> i could use partition magic to make a new partition just for it, i dont mind doing that
[05:03] <shigs> hi, im strugglign to get a version of NVU or another HTML editor
[05:03] <Goatocausto> but id like to keep xp and be able to choose which os i boot on
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> Goatocausto,  yea. I perfer to let linux have its own hard drive.
[05:03] <shigs> can someone invite that Bot to tell me how to add universe to my respository?
[05:03] <shigs> pretty plllease ^__^
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> Goatocausto,  the GRUB boot loader will give you a menu for what OS to boot.
[05:03] <Goatocausto> oh thats cool then i dont mind doing that [a usb thumb thing as i have two] 
[05:04] <orbx> does anyone know how to install php, on the ubuntu apache server?
[05:04] <carambol> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ,shigs
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> Ive seen Ubuntu installs set where they totally run off a USB drive.
[05:04] <shigs> i know where the sources list is
[05:04] <shigs> i need to know what to add
[05:04] <mwe> Goatocausto: having a partition for linux and choosing what to boot is easy once the partition is there
[05:04] <heien> Katsu2,  in your homefolder, there is a shortcut
[05:04] <DShepherd> shigs: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#addinguniverse <-- there you go
[05:04] <shigs> nice one
[05:04] <shigs> ^__^
[05:04] <slept> maybe you can generate a live cd on rw with udf filesystem for etc and home would be nice then you could save things
[05:04] <carambol> and add universe
[05:04] <heien> Else, press ALT+F2 and write "./runMercury"
[05:04] <heien> HaschHase, in apt-get
[05:05] <heien> if it's a package
[05:05] <sethrd> I think the problem might be with my hard drive, as everytime I try to launch a program, it locks up. Maybe having a hard drive reading.
[05:05] <heien> i dunno what it is :D
[05:05] <mwe> Goatocausto: I'm running Linux and XP on the same drive on my laptop myself
[05:05] <Sonderblade> which package contain the xlib man pages?
[05:06] <HaschHase> ok heien
[05:06] <Goatocausto> mm i just want to make sure that AT WORST i can ALWAYS boot into xp again
[05:06] <Goatocausto> i dont ahve another HDD to use, but i do have a 256mb thumbdrive
[05:09] <mwe> Goatocausto: you will still be able to boot xp without problems after installing Linux. the installer will detect it and put it in the boot menu
[05:09] <Goatocausto> ok great
[05:09] <slept> Goatocausto, it will work nice with different partitions and grub, you dont need different drives
[05:09] <Goatocausto> what about uninstalling or if the install fucks up for some reason ?
[05:09] <Goatocausto> yeah
[05:09] <Goatocausto> as i said i used to use linux a few years ago and kind of forgot about it, but now im interested to get back into it
[05:09] <_native_> we should uhh.. http://www.openbsd.org/papers/ven05-deraadt/index.html
[05:10] <heien> configure: error: Captive requires crypto library (of openssl).
[05:10] <heien>  <- how to fix?
[05:10] <orbx> does anyone know how i can config an apache server via the command prompt?
[05:10] <mwe> Goatocausto: you can always boot the xp install cd and choose recovery console and run fixmbr to get rid of the linux boot loader
[05:11] <orbx> does any one know how i can config an apache server via the terminal**
[05:11] <lanjelot> i've noticed that the greenwich package miss to install its dependencies. How can i report that information ?
[05:11] <heien> Dr_Willis, can  you help me out on this one? do i need a package?
[05:11] <heien> configure: error: Captive requires crypto library (of openssl).
[05:12] <clb_> how does linux handle network directories (like windows file sharing).. give me some keywords to google?
[05:12] <heien> clb_,  samba
[05:13] <mahangu> clb_, you can fileshare with windows using samba
[05:13] <mahangu> !samba
[05:13] <ubotu> somebody said samba was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[05:13] <clb_> heien: no I know samba.. it's only to windows platforms.. what I mean is between two linux machines
[05:13] <Red-Sox> hi
[05:13] <lando> is ogg vorbis a proprietary format like mp3?
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> heien,  install the openssl and openssl developer packages - would be my guess
[05:14] <nick_> no, lando
[05:14] <Red-Sox> I am trying to upgrade to e17
[05:14] <slept> clb_, depends on what you want , samba works as well or nfs
[05:14] <lando> thanks nick
[05:14] <Red-Sox> can someone help me with that
[05:14] <clb_> slept: nfs?
[05:14] <HaschHase> heien, i had to unmount the phone before collapsing connection to linux
[05:14] <HaschHase> that was the problem
[05:14] <HaschHase> thanks for all bye
[05:14] <slept> clb_, network file system, you can mount things
[05:15] <clb_> slept: ok.. I'll look that up, thanks
[05:15] <daemos> how can i mount novell netware servers
[05:15] <slept> clb_, if you choose it use the nfs-user-server
[05:16] <Red-Sox> does anyone here have E17?
[05:16] <lando> can someone suggest a player that can read the ogg vorbis format?
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> lando,  vlc, xine, mplayer
[05:16] <Katsu2> heien: I send you a pm
[05:16] <heien> Katsu2, no problem
[05:16] <slept> lando, xmms, ogg123
[05:17] <heien> Dr_Willis,  gaah, tried, and not a shit happens
[05:17] <Red-Sox> well, no one can help?
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> Red-Sox,  check the wikis perhaps.
[05:18] <germancito> hello
[05:18] <clb_> slept: ok I think my server isn't supporting samba or nfs to outside its domain... is it possible to use SCP protocol for that?
[05:18] <dooglus> lando: beep-media-player
[05:18] <slept> clb_, what do you want to do ? with ssh and scp you can go to any ip
[05:19] <madgik85> Sorry, quick question, is there a command that lets me know what version of X i am using?
[05:19] <Seveas> madgik85, dpkg -l xserver-xorg
[05:19] <Katsu2> heien: can you see my pm? :o
[05:20] <clb_> slept: yes I can use ssh and scp to my remote computer, but I can use samba only inside the server's domain (it's been firewalled). Like "net use x" on windows. So I have only scp for "outside world" use... can I use that protocol to mount a directory? or is there such a project?
[05:20] <Seveas> clb_, yes you can!
[05:20] <clb_> Seveas: how?
[05:20] <Seveas> clb_, on the client machine you need to install fuse and sshfs
[05:20] <Seveas> sshfs rocks :)
[05:20] <madgik85> Seveas : thats for the help
[05:21] <clb_> Seveas: is there something like that for windows too?
[05:21] <slept> oh nice didn't know about sshfs
[05:21] <dooglus> E: Couldn't find package fuse
[05:21] <Seveas> clb_, not that I know of
[05:21] <shigs> hi
[05:21] <Seveas> dooglus, sshfs depends on the right package ;)
[05:22] <dooglus> Seveas: yes. The following NEW packages will be installed:
[05:22] <dooglus>   fuse-utils libfuse2 sshfs
[05:22] <shigs> can someone tell me why sudo apt-get install nvu fails but if i do it through Synaptic Package Manager it works?
[05:22] <shigs> ive done apt-get update
[05:23] <dooglus> shigs: no
[05:23] <shigs> dooglus: heh
[05:23] <dooglus> shigs: what does apt-get tell you?
[05:23] <shigs> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/nvu/nvu_1.0-0ubuntu3_i386.deb  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.182). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: 82.211.81.182 80] 
[05:23] <shigs> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[05:23] <lando> on the ext3 filesystem is I have seen the word journaled. What does this mean?
[05:23] <brosioz> how can i monitor my ink level of my hp printer ?
[05:23] <shigs> fails there
[05:24] <clb_> Seveas: I wonder if there are such packages on ubuntu repositories.. do I have tobuild them myself?
[05:24] <shigs> brosioz: that is a driver feature
[05:24] <dooglus> shigs: do you use a proxy server?
[05:24] <shigs> yeh
[05:24] <Seveas> clb_, there are no windows packages on ubuntu repositories
[05:24] <clb_> Seveas: no I mean for Ubuntu
[05:24] <dooglus> shigs: that's why then.  synaptics knows about the proxy, and apt-get doesn't
[05:24] <[FiDO] > is backports down??
[05:25] <Seveas> clb_, then I might have misunderstood what you mean
[05:25] <shigs> ahh good, i dont know how to configure proxy for apt-get
[05:25] <Red-Sox> join #debian
[05:25] <Red-Sox> oops
[05:25] <maddash> anyone familiar with opteron processors?
[05:25] <dooglus> shigs: put export http_proxy="http://user:pass@proxy.host:port/" in your ~/.gnomerc
[05:25] <Seveas> Red-Sox, no thanks ;)
[05:26] <Grout> i just switched my monitor that can do 1024 x 768 but my resolution will only go as high as 800 x 600 how can i change it so it will let me select 1024?
[05:26] <dooglus> shigs: (fill in user, pass, proxy.host and port)
[05:26] <Red-Sox> seveas: no thanks to what?
[05:26] <Katsu2> heien: what is the exact name, is it just mercury? and if so...with edubuntu that is listed as: A new logic/functional programming language.
 join #debian <-- to that ;)
[05:27] <Grout> anyone?
[05:27] <Red-Sox> Seveas: I already have joined debian
[05:27] <Seveas> Red-Sox, nvm, you don't get the joke :)
[05:27] <Red-Sox> ya, o well
[05:27] <Seveas> (or i'm just silly - which is a reasonable conclusion)
[05:27] <Grout> ??
[05:27] <welp_ubuntu> hi Seveas
[05:28] <Grout> i just switched my monitor that can do 1024 x 768 but my resolution will only go as high as 800 x 600 how can i change it so it will let me select 1024?
[05:29] <Katsu2> Ok, some1 told me Mercury is better than aMSN and also provides the ability to start webcam convo's. Now, in edubuntu mercury is listed as: A new logic/functional programming language. I don;t think that's the one I need, suggestions any1?
[05:29] <El_Che> Grout: in a console type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:29] <DShepherd> Seveas: verdict...........silly :)
[05:30] <slew> hi, on my desktop is a link to hda1, the windows partition. the user cannot view the files, so it seems the icon is wasting space. is it possible to remove the icon?
[05:30] <ufk> hiya
[05:31] <ufk> if i wanna install ubuntu on some comptuters at my work. do i need to pay for licenses?
[05:31] <linuxboy> ufk: never!
[05:31] <slew> ufk no
[05:31] <sethrd> Damn this stupid laptop!
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> slew,  its proberly been auto mounted by the root user for some reason.  you can tell gnome to hide them easially enough. or edit the fstab and make them mount as a user
[05:31] <ufk> for none of the programs that come with it?
[05:31] <slept> slew, just delete it
[05:31] <ufk> apache... mysql.. ?
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> do you EVER have to pay for a Ubuntu License?
[05:31] <linuxboy> ufk: if you want to, you can donate. But thats about it
[05:32] <Katsu2> Dr_Willis, could you help me?
[05:32] <slew> slept, wont let me move to the trash
[05:32] <slew> wont let me unmount it
[05:32] <ufk> so i can install linux on all of my computers here, install apache,sql,ftp whatever i want.. and i don't need to pay for any license what so ever?
[05:33] <sethrd> How can I stop this stutter that my mouse is causing? psmouse.c lost sync throwing away 2 bytes.
[05:33] <sethrd> exit
[05:33] <slept> ufk, google for gpl to find out what its all about
[05:33] <sethrd> Anyone have any ideas?
[05:34] <ufk> thanks alot
[05:34] <Mike111111111111> hey sup yall
[05:34] <dooglus> ufk: it's all free software
[05:34] <linuxboy> ufk: I work at a company that uses only opensource products
[05:34] <slew> i just did a sudo umount and that worked.
[05:34] <Seveas> Mike111111111111, your 1 key got stuck, I presume?
[05:34] <Mike111111111111> lol
[05:34] <dooglus> ufk: if you install stuff from 'restricted' or 'multiverse' then you may have licensing and/or patent issues
[05:35] <marlun> Whats the command to get the path where a file is?
[05:35] <El_Che> mahangu: which
[05:35] <comm[A|n] der> which  or whereis
[05:35] <Seveas> wheris filename)here
[05:35] <Seveas> or slocate
[05:36] <slept> marlun, dpkg -L packagename could be usefull
[05:36] <sethrd> http://pastebin.com/433218 Anyone care to comment?
[05:36] <clb_>  sshfs clb@demon.fi: demon
[05:36] <Grout> el_chu do i have to restart or something?
[05:36] <clb_> gives me fusermount: No permission
[05:36] <Mike111111111111> man dun babes use Ubuntu
[05:36] <holycow> *hmmm*
[05:37] <marlun> I'm looking for the .vimrc file which should be in my home directory but its not =/ do I have to create it myself the first time?
[05:37] <dooglus> Seveas: my uid on the remote machine is different than the local machine, so I can't cd into the mounted sshfs area.  Do you know if there's a workaround?  Like specifying that sshfs should make the mounted area owned by my user?
[05:37] <holycow> where is the java 1.5 deb located again? i know it has been remove from official repositories for legal reasons, but i remember it being available on the net somewhere
[05:37] <dooglus> marlun: yes.  make it yourself
[05:37] <marlun> dooglus, ok, thanks
[05:37] <Mike111111111111> yo man... keepit kool alrite\
[05:37] <dooglus> marlun: as soon as it exists, vim stops acting so much like vi and starts acting more like vim
[05:38] <Seveas> dooglus, you should mount as your normal user
[05:38] <marlun> dooglus, I didn't know there was a difference? =)
[05:38] <Mike111111111111> fuk all a this man have som fun,,, commands, files.. all bulcrap
[05:38] <Seveas> I use sshfs to sync between 5 different machines
[05:38] <dooglus> marlun: there is.  when your .vim file doesn't exist, vim tries to stay compatible with vi.
[05:38] <Seveas> with 5 different uids :)
[05:38] <Mike111111111111> damn man this is not where i park ma car
[05:39] <njreid> Hi all - quick Q; Anyone know of a method for faking the uname -r response from a kernel?
[05:39] <dooglus> Seveas: I used 'sudo sshfs' because without the 'sudo' I saw: fuse: failed to exec fusermount: Permission denied
[05:39] <clb_> OMG it actually works! Seveas you're a lifesaver
[05:39] <marlun> dooglus, but is vim still started when I write vi?
[05:39] <Grout> hey El_Che do i have to restart?
[05:39] <Seveas> dooglus, adduser dooglus fuse
[05:39] <clb_> dooglus: sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/fusermount
[05:39] <njreid> I have a binary app which requires a 2.4 kernel
[05:39] <Seveas> and then you can use sshfs :)
[05:39] <xrenmilay> NoUse: I did run the command glxinfo | grep direct
[05:40] <dooglus> marlun: /usr/bin/vi is a symbolic link.  "ls -l /usr/bin/vi" will show you what it's linked to.  for me it runs nvi.  for you it probably runs vim.
[05:40] <xrenmilay> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x24 libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x28 libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2c libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x30 direct rendering: Yes
[05:40] <njreid> I've tried the linux32 app (designed for ia64/amd64 32bit faking)
[05:40] <xrenmilay> is what I got
[05:40] <njreid> And setarch, which only configures the uname -m (i686 etc) value.
[05:41] <marlun> dooglus, okey =) thanks!
[05:41] <El_Che> Grout: log out
[05:41] <mahangu> El_Che, which what?
[05:41] <clb_> Seveas: can I add it to fstab somehow?
[05:41] <dooglus> after adding myself to the fuse group, how far do I have to log out to get it to take effect?
[05:41] <Seveas> clb_, yes
[05:42] <El_Che> ctrl + alt + delete will restart your X server
[05:42] <Slackwise> El_Che: Isn't it Ctrl+Alt+Backspace?
[05:42] <Seveas> sshfs#host.name.of.server:path fuse more-mount-options-here
[05:42] <Seveas> see the output of 'mount' for an example
[05:42] <slept> El_Che, that will reboot your system
[05:42] <mahangu> El_Che, Slackwise is correct
[05:42] <El_Che> idd
[05:42] <mahangu> control + alt + backspace
[05:42] <El_Che> i meant backspace :)
[05:43] <clb_> Seveas: thanks
[05:43] <webwolf_27> are there any know issues when running "apt-get dist-upgrade" from gnome?
[05:43] <Slackwise> Nevermind, it does /restart/ it. Backspace is to kill it.
[05:45] <thrice`> Seveas, around ?
[05:46] <Seveas> thrice`, some would say
[05:46] <thrice`> Seveas, mind if I ask you an off-topic question?
[05:46] <Seveas> do that in #ubuntu-offtopic or a private chat :)
[05:47] <dooglus> Seveas: that sshfs is very nice, thanks.
[05:47] <webwolf_27> I take it that means no
[05:48] <lillpelle> webwolf_27: I upgrade from hoary to breezy that way, and had no problems
[05:48] <dooglus> webwolf_27: there can be issues.  gnome apps will probably crash as they get updated
[05:48] <dooglus> webwolf_27: not a big deal though
[05:48] <clb_> Seveas: can I use DSA authentication with that? :)
[05:49] <webwolf_27> ok, so if anything happens, I should be able to reboot AFTER apt is finished and have no problems
[05:49] <Seveas> clb_, sure
[05:49] <Seveas> it uses ssh internally, so ~/.ssh/config etc. work
[05:49] <clb_> Seveas: hmm odd
[05:50] <dooglus> clb_: it's working for me without prompting for a password
[05:50] <jbroome> a/topic
[05:50] <dooglus> clb_: first time I used it, I did "sudo sshfs ..." - and that prompted for a password, 'cos root doesn't know my private key.
[05:51] <selinium> webwolf_27, yes! :)
[05:51] <Seveas> sshfs + sudo are not friends
[05:51] <webwolf_27> selinium, good I just didn't think of switching to init 3 first ;(
[05:51] <dooglus> Seveas: it looks funny.  in the mounted area I see files owned by an unknown userid, with no group or other access - yet I can edit them as my user.
[05:52] <Stormx2_sku> hi babies
[05:52] <Red-Sox> okay, how do you gat a window manager that is installed on your sessions list?
[05:52] <sethrd> Wewt. Fixed it
[05:52] <selinium> Stormx2, ola!
[05:52] <ceej> what does this mean? ceej@ceej:~/Desktop$ ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[05:52] <ceej> ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:52] <dooglus> I tried to switch to single-user mode earlier.  it asked me to "enter root password for maintenance".  what should I enter
[05:53] <Stormx2> ceej: Get libstdc
[05:53] <dooglus> ceej: it means that it couldn't open the share object file libstdc++.so.5 because the file doesn't exist
[05:53] <Seveas> dooglus, yeah that looks silly - but it can not translate remote uids to local uids :)
[05:53] <sethrd> I lied.
[05:53] <Seveas> ceej, libstdc++5 is the package you need
[05:53] <slept> dooglus, are you root when you edit these files ?
[05:53] <sethrd> This is pissing me off. It worked fine yesterday, and now it starts stuttering.
[05:53] <pe> gaim doesn't connect to my messenger account somebody knows why it can be?
[05:53] <ceej> Seveas: ah ok, thank you :)
[05:53] <dooglus> slept: no, I'm me.
[05:54] <slept> dooglus, strange
[05:54] <Seveas> the spambots are awake...
[05:54] <dooglus> slept: yes.  I'm ssh'ed to the remote box as that user though, so it kind of makes sense.  It's just strange how it gets displayed
[05:55] <Red-Sox> I get this when i do sudo apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4666
[05:56] <ceej> Seveas: thanks that worked nicely :)
[05:56] <shawarma> Red-Sox: update-notifier is probably working its magic
[05:56] <webwolf_27> Red-Sox, anouther instance of dpkg is running
[05:57] <Seveas> Red-Sox, close all apt-get/aptitude/synaptic/add applications programs
[05:57] <dooglus> Red-Sox: you're probably running synaptic package manager already, yes?
[05:57] <reginatto> topyli, hi... now i can run mpg... :D but wmv doesn't work... any ideia?
[05:58] <slept> dooglus, that makes sense
[05:58] <marlun> is there a c++ compiler in ubuntu by default?
[05:58] <Red-Sox> yes, thx
[05:58] <webwolf_27> marlun, not by default
[05:58] <Seveas> marlun, not installed by default but it is on the CD
[05:59] <marlun> Ok, is it in the repository aswell? or do I need to get it from the CD?
[05:59] <Seveas> it's in the repository too of course
[05:59] <Seveas> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:59] <slept> Seveas, did you try funfs aswell ?
[05:59] <dooglus> marlun: build-essential will install it
[05:59] <marlun> ok, thanks =)
[06:00] <marlun> whats the command to use when its installed?
[06:00] <dooglus> slept: which package is funfs in?
[06:00] <dooglus> g++
[06:00] <Seveas> slept, no, I tried flickrfs and gmailfs though
[06:01] <Seveas> I'm working on a gnomevfs wrapper
[06:01] <dooglus> !c++
[06:01] <Seveas> and pondering about bugzillafs :)
[06:01] <slept> dooglus, don't know  I was looking via google for something nicer than nfs
[06:02] <dooglus> slept: I don't think it's in the repos
[06:02] <dooglus> slept: but I see it on google
[06:02] <dooglus> !google
[06:02] <ubotu> dooglus: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:02] <Seveas> slept, if you want, I can make a package of funfs
[06:02] <Seveas> not that hard...
[06:03] <slept> Seveas, would be of no use for me my server is running on sarge, thanks anyway
[06:03] <ketaset> I just installed the openssh-server package but sshd will not load because there are no host keys, is there a simple way to generate the keys?
[06:03] <Seveas> ketaset, the package should have created them
[06:03] <Stormx2> !xfce
[06:03] <ubotu> xfce is, like, a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[06:04] <ketaset> hmm thats what i would have thought but it didnt
[06:04] <dooglus> ketaset: you're not the first to ask that today.  odd, I didn't have a problem with this at all
[06:04] <pitillo> hi anyone know why the xorg.log show me this error: incompatible kernel module detected
[06:05] <Seveas> pitillo, because xorg detected an incompatible kernel module
[06:05] <Seveas> did you perhaps install ati/nvidia drivers yourself and later upgraded the kernel?
[06:05] <NoUse> ketaset I would try sudo apt-get --purge remove openssh-server' and then reinstall it
[06:06] <dooglus> ketaset: see the earlier discussion: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4668
[06:06] <axel> Hello everyone
[06:06] <dooglus> hi axel
[06:06] <pitillo> SEJeff, i have installed ubuntu, and the ati driver, i only need the kernel headers
[06:06] <pitillo> sorry Seveas
[06:06] <jino> Seveas , please help me getting gui for boot up
[06:07] <Seveas> pitillo, use the latest ati drivers, they're great
[06:07] <axel> i have a windozed user question, do you guys defrag your disks in linux, and more precisely ubuntu ?
[06:07] <Seveas> get their installer
[06:07] <pitillo> Seveas, yes i install it with the installer
[06:08] <Seveas> and apt-get install gcc-3.4 module-assistant linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:08] <Seveas> then let the installer **generate ubuntu breezy packages!**
[06:08] <jino> some one help plz
[06:08] <Seveas> install all the generated packages
[06:08] <jino> to get gui for boot up in new ubuntu
[06:08] <Seveas> then run module assistant to compile and install the fglrx kernel module
[06:08] <pitillo> and it works fine, the module is loaded and used bi Xorg, but there is that error in xorg.log
[06:08] <nadia> I've got an older motherboard that doesn't support boot from CD, can I boot from a win95 floppy with CD ROM support and then start the ubuntu installation?
[06:09] <axel> jino, whats ur pblem ?
[06:09] <pitillo> Seveas, i install it, dont the generation option
[06:09] <holycow> Amaranth, thanks for the help
[06:09] <clb_> Seveas: my fstab line looks like this sshfs#user@server.com: /mnt/homeserver  fuse    rw,nosuid,nodev,max_read=65536,user=clb 0 0
[06:10] <pitillo> module-assistant didnot exist...
[06:10] <nadia> anyone...  ubuntu install from floppy?
[06:10] <clb_> Seveas: but I get an error "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock"
[06:10] <slept> jino, what did you do
[06:10] <pitillo> i will try the generation package
[06:10] <pitillo> Seveas, thanks
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> nadia,  you need a linux install floppy  - not a dos floppy.
[06:10] <Seveas> clb_, manually mount it and after that put the output of 'mount' on the pastebin
[06:11] <nadia> does ubuntu have a way to create an install floppy?
[06:11] <axel> Hmmm so does anyone defrag his disks in ubuntu ??
[06:11] <NoUse> nadia are you unable to boot off a CD or just not have a drive?
[06:11] <slept> nadia, if you have an other machine you can put the drive in, you can deboostrap a system
[06:11] <Seveas> axel, linux filesystems don't fragment
[06:11] <trappist> well
[06:11] <Seveas> don't think like windows :)
[06:11] <slept> axel, you don't have to
[06:12] <nadia> just can't boot off the cd, I do have a cd rom.
[06:12] <jino> axel , i upgraded to new ubuntu , but i didnt get the graphical boot up
[06:12] <trappist> all filesystems fragment, but linux filesystems defragment themselves
[06:12] <ficusplanet> Hey everyone.  When I start GNOME, I get an error about not being able to start GNOME Setting Daemon.  How do I fix this?
[06:12] <dooglus> Seveas: people keep saying that, but how can it be true?  they must fragment
[06:12] <NoUse> nadia https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[06:12] <nalioth> dooglus: the amount if fragmentation is negligable
[06:12] <trappist> dooglus: reiserfs, for example, does a small defrag operation every 5 seconds
[06:12] <axel> jino, u mean u did the instal and then on reboot there wasnt the first time prcedure ?
[06:13] <dooglus> nalioth: I can't find any tool to tell me how fragmented my filesystems are.  that's suspicious.
[06:13] <trappist> dooglus: so it never gets out of hand
[06:13] <nadia> NoUse... thanks, I appreciate that...
[06:13] <trappist> dooglus: fsck will tell you '1% non-contiguous' or something
[06:13] <lando> can anyone suggest some cd burning software?
[06:13] <nalioth> dooglus: because fragmentation is ~>5% on ext2/3
[06:13] <Red-Sox> hello, I tried to install e17 on my system, and when i booted in to e17, a black screen came up, then a white screen!
[06:13] <jino> axel, the booting is like the prev version of ubuntu..i didnt get the new graphical onw which i would lov to have
[06:13] <nalioth> lando: gnomebaker, graveman or k3b
[06:13] <dooglus> trappist: I'm using reiserfs
[06:13] <jino> which masks all those services..
[06:14] <jino> lando, gnome baker
[06:14] <dooglus> trappist: are you the *kungfu trappist?
[06:14] <trappist> dooglus: yep
[06:15] <nalioth> dooglus: seveas just told you reiser defragments every 5 seconds
[06:15] <trappist> that was me, actually :)
[06:15] <axel> jino, oh ok the brown orange one, hmm u might want to look for a boot skin theme tool, ive never tried but i believe there is one
[06:15] <nalioth> trappist: sorry, eyes are going
[06:15] <jino> axel , u got me
[06:15] <elliot> does anyone have a moment to spare
[06:16] <elliot> cant get mac on linux to work
[06:16] <dooglus> nalioth: I heard him.  I'd like to be able to see how fragmented the disk is.
[06:16] <jino> axel ,  does synaptic have one?
[06:16] <nalioth> dooglus: if there was a problem with fragmentation on linux, there'd be tools to look at it
[06:17] <topyli> reginatto: sorry, was away. a man has to eat :)
[06:17] <markl__> ubuntu seems to have the same boring set of gnome icons that have been around for years - is there a package with additional icons?
[06:17] <markl__> silly, i realize
[06:17] <axel> jino, dunno maybe, but i guess if u look into forums where they discuss the bootskin artworks and modding ull find a way to install it
[06:17] <nalioth> markl__: system > preferences  > themes
[06:18] <markl__> nalioth: will that change the icons you can choose from when adding something to the gnome panel?
[06:18] <jino> axel , thank you
[06:18] <topyli> reginatto: if you installed w32codecs, avi, wmv and the works should work...
[06:18] <nalioth> markl__: look in /usr/share/pixmaps or /usr/share/icons/
[06:18] <dooglus> trappist: where did you find that reiserfs defrags every 5 seconds?  I can't find any mention of it using google
[06:18] <jino> axel , does upgrading rather than fresh installation slow my machine?
[06:19] <jims> I have just upgraded to Breezy, now I have problems with True Type fonts.  Is this the place to get help?
[06:19] <jino> axel , where can i get the addon cd
[06:19] <axel> jino, cant say precisely but i guess its never useful to have the old stuff staying on ur machine
[06:20] <markl__> nalioth: that is already the default - i am wondering if there is a package with thousands of new icons to live in /usr/share/pixmaps
[06:20] <NoUse> jims yeah just ask your question in detail
[06:20] <axel> jino, u mean install cd ?
[06:20] <nalioth> markl__: visit gnome-look.org or www.deviantart.com
[06:20] <jino> axel , ya
[06:21] <jims> NoUse: Xprint complains that it cannot find '..encodings.dir'  When can I get or build it?
[06:21] <nalioth> markl__: also art.ubuntu.com
[06:21] <axel> jino, dude, u can download it on the wensite or order it for free
[06:21] <axel> website
[06:21] <[FiDO] > I can't seem to install samba with hoary
[06:22] <zuphit> hey, you guys are all under ubunto aren't ya?  I have a couple of nebie questions if one of you have a minute
[06:22] <[FiDO] > apt-get won't install it
[06:22] <nalioth> jims: install any TrueType fonts you like into /home/jims/.fonts
[06:22] <bjorn> gaah!! java isnt working, the instalation (i use the ubuntu faq guide) goes fine but it doesnt work despite that, it doesnt seem to be installed
[06:22] <NoUse> jims I've never used xprint so I'm not sure I'll be of much help
[06:22] <[FiDO] > I think it might need backports
[06:22] <jino> axel , not the os installation cd...I require all the additional packages that we upgrade from net
[06:22] <jino> does they provide any cd for that
[06:22] <topyli> markl__: just get the gPerfection suite from gnome-look.org and be done with theme fiddling :)
[06:23] <maestro> does anyone know a .deb package for j2sdk1.5 ?
[06:23] <maestro> i already get one here in the past
[06:23] <defcon8> just get the .bin
[06:23] <zuphit> I'm not figuring how to install mp3 support, any tips?
[06:23] <markl__> topyli: is that apt-get installable with ubuntu?  i am trying to stick to just ubuntu packages on this machine
[06:23] <Syruss> how can I alter the available resolutions in gnome-display-manager thing?
[06:23] <defcon8> why you need a deb?
[06:23] <[FiDO] > does anyone know if backports is down
[06:23] <Syruss> it's stuck on 1024x768
[06:23] <jims> NoUse: I am not sure where xprint comes into play, I am using the default settings from the install CD.  I show a large number of fonts when using OpenOffice, but they do not appear different on screen...
[06:23] <mp3guy> anyone any idea when the boot manager is coming back?
[06:24] <nalioth> maestro: make one
[06:24] <maestro> defcon8, its easy cause the .deb already make the links
[06:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell maestro about java
[06:24] <markl__> topyli: but i'll definitely check that package out too, thanks
[06:24] <axel> jino, well if u mean to install packages its through apt-get or synaptic or 'Add Applications' in apps menu,
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> Syruss,  you proberly have to edit/reconfigure your xorg.conf -  the display-manager-thing is getting its settings from there.
[06:24] <maestro> !javadebs
[06:24] <ubotu> it has been said that javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/
[06:24] <jims> Nalioth: I show lots of fonts in OpenOffice...
[06:24] <axel> jino, theres is no cd for therse you have to download
[06:24] <topyli> markl__: no, themes are a different case. users generally install custom themes to their home directories, that's no business of nazi sysadmins =)
[06:24] <Syruss> Dr_Willis: I always thought it was hal, or this xresdetect thing?
[06:24] <Syruss> as I've already altered my xorg.conf with some other modes
[06:24] <markl__> topyli: i don't want themes, i want more icons in /usr/share/pixmaps
[06:25] <Syruss> xresprobe I mean
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> Syruss,  not sure.  it could be your monitor settings dont think it can handle the higher res's
[06:25] <markl__> i am tired of the same boring gnome set that has been there for a decade
[06:25] <nalioth> markl__: download them and put them there
[06:25] <maestro> i need for x86_64 !!!
[06:25] <Syruss> what about lower though
[06:25] <mp3guy> syruss, you need to get the proper sync ranges for your monitor, then reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:25] <Syruss> it's literally only got 1024x768
[06:25] <topyli> markl__: well, there are nice icon themes too
[06:25] <maestro> nalioth, i need x86_64 ? any ideias ?
[06:26] <nalioth> maestro: there is only amd64. it will work on x86_64
[06:27] <clb_> hey how do I make my 'Places'-menu refresh its links?
[06:27] <topyli> markl__: themes are very difficult to decide for anybody else. you might just hate gPerfection which is my favorite
[06:27] <maestro> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/java/sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb this one is going to work on my amd64 ?
[06:28] <clb_> when I plug in an usb stick, the drive gets mounted to /media/KINGSTON but it doesn't make the link to places-menu nor desktop
[06:29] <maestro> nalioth, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/java/sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb this one is going to work on my amd64 ?
[06:29] <xrenmilay> NoUse: got a second?
[06:29] <pitillo> anyone can tell me in what package is dh_testdir?
[06:30] <HappyFool> maestro: if you're running ubuntu 64 bit, i'd guess no
[06:30] <NoUse> xrenmilay yeah
[06:30] <Zitter> where's url for free burner totem? a friend of mine told me this
[06:30] <HappyFool> pitillo: packages.ubuntu.com might help
[06:30] <foomanchew> trying to set ip_forward on linux
[06:30] <foomanchew> permission denied ????
[06:31] <pitillo> HappyFool, thanks i will go to see there
[06:31] <nalioth> maestro: i dont think so. i believe you may need this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaAMD64
[06:31] <foomanchew> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ........ it fails even with sudo
[06:31] <foomanchew> any ideas ?
[06:31] <xrenmilay> NoUse:  I ran the command you said and this is what I got:
[06:31] <xrenmilay> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x24 libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x28 libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2c libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x30 direct rendering: Yes
[06:32] <maestro> nalioth, thanks
[06:32] <NoUse> xrenmilay please read to /topic, pasting is considered rude
[06:32] <foomanchew> IP forwarding anyone ?
[06:32] <Rubin> foomanchew: looks right to me. should work
[06:32] <NoUse> xrenmilay when did I get you this command and what was it?
[06:32] <Rubin> foomanchew: whats it say?
[06:32] <foomanchew> Rubin, hmm for some reason it dont
[06:32] <foomanchew> I get permission denied
[06:32] <pitillo> i cant find it, and i cant generate the ati drivers for ubuntu
[06:33] <Rubin> foomanchew: using stock kernel?
[06:33] <xrenmilay> sorry for the paste.
[06:33] <xrenmilay> NoUse: It was regarding blender not running on my ATI Rage card
[06:33] <foomanchew> Rubin, yes sir
[06:33] <slept> pitillo, you are looking for fglrx
[06:34] <NoUse> xrenmilay it looks like the card does support certain opengl calls, but direct rending is on
[06:34] <pitillo> sledge__, i try to install it with the installation package downloaded from ati site
[06:34] <bjorn> hmmm somebody knows?
[06:34] <pitillo> sorry slept
[06:34] <Rubin> foomanchew: oh. its doing it like this: (sudo echo 1) > /proc...
[06:34] <Rubin> foomanchew: try sudo -s, then do the echo
[06:35] <foomanchew> Rubin, trying
[06:35] <xrenmilay> NoUse does this mean I need to get a different card?
[06:35] <Rubin> or maybe sudo 'echo 1 >/proc...'
[06:35] <NoUse> xrenmilay it might
[06:35] <Rubin> not sure
[06:35] <foomanchew> Rubin, thks mate, why did I not think of that ?
[06:35] <foomanchew> works
[06:36] <xrenmilay> NoUse. Thanks, it was a freebie so no major loos ;)
[06:36] <NoUse> xrenmilay a cheap nvidia with 3d support would probably cut it
[06:39] <ubuntu_> o
[06:40] <xrenmilay> NoUse: I am considering purchasing this one http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?page=proframe&prod_id=1667324. It is Nvidia Base card
[06:41] <damg> hmm, i installed ati drivers (for my radeon x800), but ogl is running in ogl software mode, did I miss anything?
[06:42] <NoUse> xrenmilay you don't need to spend that much but that should work
[06:42] <dranyam> umm
[06:42] <dranyam> i have a bit of a problem
[06:42] <dranyam> i deleted one of my taskbars
[06:42] <damg> fglrx tells: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:42] <damg>  OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[06:43] <dranyam> and now when i minimize windows they just disappear
[06:43] <dranyam> how can i fix this
[06:43] <NoUse> damg did you follow the wiki instructions?
[06:43] <dranyam> ?
[06:43] <damg> NoUse, yes, installed the ati driver via apt-get, changed xorg.conf to use fglrx
[06:43] <topyli> This phone is a blast from my distant Windows past. I update anti-virus software, after which i must restart the device :)
[06:44] <clb_> anyone know how do I manually edit the Places-menu?
[06:44] <NoUse> damg can you put your /var/log/xorg.0.log on pastebin?
[06:44] <damg>  less /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep fglrx
[06:44] <damg>  >> Driver          "fglrx"
[06:44] <damg> NoUse, moment
[06:44] <clb_> damg: I'm having the same problem
[06:45] <Stormx2> dranyam: Right click somewhere on a bar, and add "windows list"
[06:45] <sethrd> I wish the fglrx drivers worked for a Radeon 7500 Mobility. ='(
[06:45] <Alakala> Do the fglrx drivers work at all for breezy?
[06:46] <Alakala> Or am I doing something wrong?
[06:46] <clb_> Alakala: they should
[06:46] <sethrd> They do. What model card do you have?
[06:46] <Alakala> Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb.
[06:46] <damg> NoUse, http://pastebin.com/433302
[06:46] <clb_> Sapphire 9800SE.. worked in suse 9.2
[06:46] <sethrd> Yeah, that should work.
[06:46] <Alakala> I can't get em to work. :(
[06:46] <topyli> Alakala: on my work box they did a good job at freezing the kernel
[06:46] <DRMacIver> I upgraded to breezy earlier and startx no longer works. I get a number of permission errors and xinit: server error
[06:46] <DRMacIver> Any idea what could be causing this?
[06:47] <NoUse> damg I asked for the log not the conf file
[06:47] <Alakala> topyli, my xserver just doesn't work until I replace the xorg.conf with the backup one.
[06:47] <damg> scroll down, NoUse
[06:47] <reginatto> can anyone tell me how to see wmv files on totem?
[06:47] <damg> NoUse, one thing more: dmesg | tail >> [fglrx:firegl_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 12364 using kernel context 0
[06:47] <NoUse> damg ok, have the dri module commented out in your conf file
[06:48] <NoUse> damn dri is 3d support
[06:48] <damg> NoUse, ok, moment
[06:48] <clb_> my dri doesn't work, that's the problem :(
[06:48] <topyli> Alakala: oh, so you are still left with a working system. if i try real hard, i seem to remember the system froze only if i switched to a console and then back to X
[06:48] <damg> NoUse, ill reconnect via irssi now - 'll need to restart my server now :D
[06:48] <NoUse> damg ok
[06:51] <damg> NoUse: i uncommented load dri and im still in software mode :/
[06:51] <damg> NoUse: even glxgears doesn't want to work properly
[06:51] <NoUse> damg 'lsmod | grep fglrx'
[06:52] <heien> Hi everyone. Where can i insert a code which starts with: "diff -Naur kernel/signal.c.orig kernel/signal.c"  ? In the kernel somewhere?
[06:53] <damg> NoUse: fglrx and agpgart loaded
[06:53] <NoUse> damg have you tried the troubleshooting section of the wiki for ATI?
[06:54] <damg> NoUse: no, ill check it now. One thing I also noticed - i tried the ati-installer, too and it succeded, although i didnt have kernel-sources installed o_O
[06:54] <mwe> When I installed the fglrx driver I had to manually create a symlink as suggested on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATIOnBreezyOpenGLFix, though I used dpkg-divert to avoid future conflicts
[06:54] <NoUse> damg you ran the wiki instructions and the ati-installer?
[06:55] <jamie_> is it difficult to install the ati drivers because i havent done so yet>
[06:55] <jamie_> ?
[06:55] <damg> NoUse: I tried both, first wiki, then ati-installer, both with same results
[06:55] <juanra> hola caraculos
[06:55] <NoUse> damg well now you have mixed different drivers, that exlains the unreolved symbols I'm seeing in your log file
[06:56] <juanra> :p
[06:56] <damg> NoUse: ill uninstall both now :D
[06:56] <NoUse> damg just follow the troubleshooting section, that should overwrite what the ati-installer did
[06:56] <heien> Anyone, please give feedback?
[06:56] <heien> Hi everyone. Where can i insert a code which starts with: "diff -Naur kernel/signal.c.orig kernel/signal.c"  ? In the kernel somewhere?
[06:56] <NoUse> heien what are you trying to do?
[06:57] <ceej> for some reason on xmms i can't control the volume, its either on loud or off (mute) ;/
[06:57] <heien> NoUse, this: Looking into the kernel sources revealed that kill_proc_info was
[06:57] <heien> exported in kernels prior to 2.6.10, but isn't any more.  I didn't
[06:57] <heien> investigate further why this change was made but instead made the
[06:57] <heien> following change which did the job.
[06:57] <shingoki> Does anyone know why I get a segfault when running glxinfo after installing nvidia legacy drivers and enabling?
[06:57] <nalioth> heien: please read the /topic. pasting is rude
[06:57] <heien> Then insert some code, starting with "diff -Naur kernel/signal.c.orig kernel/signal.c"
[06:58] <topyli> ceej: the volume on xmms or the overall volume?
[06:58] <topyli> ceej: perhaps you just need a more modern player
[06:58] <heien> nalioth, if you're a bot, fu, if you're a person, im sorry abut the paste. :/
[06:58] <NoUse> heien but why are you trying to patch the kernel? why do you need that system call?
[06:59] <nalioth> ubotu: tell heien about coc
[06:59] <stratovarius> hey all
[06:59] <calebme> Hey all
[06:59] <calebme> lol
[06:59] <stratovarius> does nobody play enemy territory here?
[06:59] <jamie_> i used to
[06:59] <ubuntu_> hello from milan - live cd - gnu/linux base course
[06:59] <calebme> I used to also
[06:59] <ceej> topyli: my sound for xmms dosn't change when i change the normal volume, it worked before the re install...
[07:00] <heien> NoUse, to use captive ntfs. I need to change it, else, i get an error, stating that it fails to prepare lufs.ko
[07:00] <jbroome> stratovarius: i haven't in a while, but now that I have ubuntu on a system with a decent GFX card i'll probably give it a shot again
[07:00] <jamie_> jbroome, what card do you have?
[07:00] <NoUse> heien if you don't know how to patch the kernel, you probably shouldn't
[07:00] <stratovarius> who can tell me how to play this game?is there a training to do or I have to play directly on line?
[07:00] <heien> NoUse, im aware of that, but i would like to try anyway
[07:00] <jbroome> jamie_: GF ti 4400
[07:00] <topyli> ceej: most strange. other noise sources are acting like they should?
[07:00] <calebme> How do I restart ubuntu? I tried sudo restart but that command is not found..
[07:00] <NoUse> !tell heien about captive
[07:00] <ceej> topyli:yep
[07:01] <stratovarius> calebme sudo reboot
[07:01] <NoUse> heien captive NTFS doesn't work with Ubuntu apparently
[07:01] <heien> Ohhhh... :/
[07:01] <calebme> oops
[07:01] <jamie_> jbroome, i used to have a 4200...there good cards
[07:01] <axel> I love Ubuntu
[07:01] <calebme> I feel so stupid >_<"
[07:01] <heien> Gaah, what about paragon then?
[07:01] <NoUse> heien what is paragon?
[07:01] <stratovarius> cant someone answer me?
[07:01] <calebme> Ubuntu hates me, but I love it...it's a tough relationship atm
[07:01] <jbroome> stratovarius: there's no single player, multi only
[07:01] <shingoki> Can anyone help me with nvidia installation? the instructions in the wiki don't work
[07:01] <topyli> ceej: hrm. are you using the correct output plugin in xmms? esd/alsa/whatever you are using?
[07:01] <nalioth> heien: how about qemu?
[07:01] <heien> NoUse,  another nfts-write enabeling driver
[07:02] <topyli> ceej: forget that. you wouldnt' get sound at all if it wasn't correct
[07:02] <stratovarius> jbroom: so after I started game I have to click on play on line
[07:02] <heien> nalioth, qemu would just let me run a windows session emulated, wouldnt it?
[07:02] <axel> The Ubuntu tames you. You don't tame an Ubuntu
[07:02] <jbroome> stratovarius: yes
[07:02] <stratovarius> ok tnx
[07:02] <coz> HELLO ALL
[07:02] <heien> NoUse,  But i've read my way to that with this patch, it should work with ubuntu
[07:02] <nalioth> heien: there is a method to crossover, iirc
[07:02] <stratovarius> bye all
[07:03] <AIF>  hi, I have this kind of problem, already googledet it and didnt get any answer for it. So I just started to install ubuntu 5.10 (self burned but I think cd is fine) on old Compaq Presario 1630. When installer starts to do "Detecting hardware to find CD-ROM drives it goes to 83% and then stucks and I get message: Loading module 'ide-disk' for 'Linux ATA DISK'
[07:03] <coz>  ARE THERE ANY COMMANDS OR UTILITIES FOR CLEANING UP THE DISC, TEP FILES ETC
[07:03] <coz> sorry I had caps lock on
[07:03] <topyli> no shit
[07:03] <coz> temp files etc
[07:03] <heien> nalioth,  could you explain it?
[07:04] <coz> let me try that again without the caps
[07:04] <topyli> coz: i use a function in my bashrc to clean tmp
[07:04] <coz> how do I do that
[07:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell heien about qemu
[07:04] <vbgunz> anyone know how to update to Gnome 2.13.2?
[07:04] <shingoki__> no one has a clue about nvidia drivers then?
[07:04] <axel> !qemu
[07:04] <ubotu> I heard qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[07:04] <nalioth> vbgunz: build it?
[07:04] <trappist> coz: there's the 'rm' utility.  I also like 'localepurge' to keep my disk from filling up with locale files I don't need
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> the /temp i thouhg got a cleaning at shutdown/startup.
[07:05] <vbgunz> nalioth, sorry, its currently only for Dapper huh?
[07:05] <AIF> anyonke know anything about my problem?
[07:05] <Rubin> AIF: you could attemt some kernel boot paramiters to resolve it, maybe disable DMA on the cdrom or use noapic nolapci
[07:05] <nalioth> vbgunz: most likely, yes
[07:05] <vbgunz> nalioth: I jumped the gun I think...
[07:05] <coz> is localpurge a command
[07:05] <Rubin> AIF: hit the F keys at the 1st boot prompt and read about the options
[07:05] <vbgunz> nalioth: thanks!
[07:05] <AIF> thanks
[07:05] <lancer285> hey guys, is there a way to delete the rhythmbox database and start over?
[07:05] <trappist> AIF: I've seen that complaint here before, but I don't know the answer to it
[07:05] <topyli> coz: my bashrc: http://siltala.net/comp/dot-bashrc . the function is in there somewhere :)
[07:06] <Rubin> AIF: if that doesnt work, you may need to make/obtain a kernel compiled differently for that system (for both install and using afterward)
[07:06] <NoUse> lancer285 its probably in ~/.rhythmbox or something similiar
[07:06] <heien> nalioth, im aware of what it does, but how do i access my ntfs drive with read/write, without loading a new OS?
[07:06] <HaschHase> hi
[07:06] <HaschHase> does anybody know how i can convert an avi to an 3gp file
[07:06] <HaschHase> so i can use this video on my mobile phone?
[07:06] <HaschHase> i have mencoder an ffmpeg
[07:06] <HaschHase> but somehow it doesnt work
[07:07] <xrenmilay> NoUse I'll be using a lot of 3d stuff so I will need it. Thanks for all the help;)
[07:07] <HaschHase> ffmpeg -i temp.avi -ar 8000 -ac 1 -vcodec mp4 -s 176x144 -r 12 -b 30 -ab 12 datei.3gp
[07:07] <HaschHase> this is what i do
[07:07] <HaschHase> and this is what i get
[07:07] <HaschHase> Unknown codec 'mp4'
[07:07] <nalioth> heien: read / write access for ntfs is quite problematic. you may run captiventfs or the other one, but i personally do not recommend writing to ntfs from linux
[07:07] <NoUse> !tell HaschHase about enter
[07:07] <nalioth> HaschHase: install gstreamer0.8-faac and -faad
[07:07] <axel> Hasch!enter
[07:07] <HaschHase> thanks
[07:08] <axel> !enter
[07:08] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[07:08] <heien> nalioth, Is there any method to convert my ntfs to fat32? or just anyhow be able to write to the partion in question
[07:08] <Rubin> heien: you can write to ntfs but its dangerous
[07:09] <Rubin> heien: best case windows will want to check it later, worst case you'll loose all your data
[07:09] <nalioth> heien: you may xfer all your files to ext3 and convert it using GNU tools, or use the commercial Partition Magic to convert it
[07:09] <calebme> I have an X problem, and no suggestiosn from last night have worked which was to configure it myself and turn on kernel framebuffering thing..
[07:09] <heien> Rubin, also in a ubuntu distro?
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> I use that IFSext2 file system  for windows that lets me have windows read/write to my ext2 partitions.
[07:09] <shingoki__> Does anyone know why nvidia-glx doesn't work with my geforce 2 GTS? It doesn't even seem to be doing anything - my driver is still "nv" which I think is the default open driver?
[07:09] <devint> is there an ext3 defragging program?
[07:09] <Rubin> heien: theres a great tool that lets windows xp read/write to ext2/3 partitions, so i use ext3 for all my data and mount it in both win and lin
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> Rubin,  :P thats it.
[07:09] <Rubin> heien: its not enabled by default in the kernel i dont think
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> lets ya keep your mp3's on a linux partition - lol.
[07:10] <Rubin> Dr_Willis: yep :)
[07:10] <shingoki__> I ran nvidia-glx-config enable, it didn't print anything to console, so I don't really know whether it did anything
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> or your  porn.. then ya can unmount it - and hide it from the wife.
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:10] <heien> nalioth, i have a hd on 160 gigs, with a 30gb partion for linux, and a 130gb partion with ntfs _ONLY_ for storing files. i just want to be able to use my 130 gig partion, without deleting the data on it.
[07:10] <shingoki__> am I muted or something?
[07:11] <axel> "When I first came to Linux I installed Fedora, but my Linux experience started when I installed Ubuntu", me
[07:11] <heien> Rubin, sounds like a great idea, but can it convert NTFS->EXT3 without deleting data?
[07:11] <Rubin> heien: no
[07:11] <shingoki__> I guess it is back to my debian install then
[07:11] <HappyFool> shingoki__: i think it runs silently
[07:11] <topyli> shingoki__: usually when unix doesn't talk to you, it's working
[07:11] <calebme> Can anyone help me with my X problem
[07:11] <nalioth> heien: i suggest you back up what you want to keep, and use qtparted to resize your ntfs partition. make a new fat32 partition (if you want to share with windows) or an ext3 one
[07:12] <topyli> shingoki__: when it fails, it will fail loudly. otherwise it shuts up. that's the philosopy
[07:12] <nalioth> heien: and start moving your things around til you get all fat32 or ext3
[07:12] <shingoki__> HappyFool, topyli thanks... do you know what the driver name should be then?
[07:12] <shingoki__> I assume it shouldn't still be nv
[07:12] <heien> nalitoth, so i should "transfer-resize-transfer-resize" my way through it?
[07:12] <HappyFool> i can loko in my xorg.conf
[07:12] <Rubin> heien: if you go the ext2/3 route, http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html is the windows software
[07:12] <topyli> shingoki__: dunno, i always buy matrox cards because they always work out of the box :)
[07:12] <heien> Rubin, is it 100% read and write like?
[07:12] <HappyFool> shingoki__: i have a line    Driver   "nvidia"    in xorg.conf
[07:12] <Rubin> heien: i suggest spending the $100 on a new hard disk, and copy it that way. its safer and you can use it for doing backups in the future
[07:13] <Rubin> heien: yes. theres no permissions.. but it works fine
[07:13] <shingoki__> HappyFool, yes that's what I thought it should be... so basically the driver is not being changed, so I assume that something is going wrong
[07:13] <heien> Rubin, i'm a bit lazy, i have a 80 gb in the closet, and 2 20.... but.then i'll have to move, and that would be horrible :D
[07:13] <nalioth> heien: it all depends on how much stuff you got on it
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. matrox still exists? :P
[07:14] <Rubin> heien: pshh :P
[07:14] <heien> nalioth, 100 gb, 30 free
[07:14] <r2> hey guys, does someone have anyidea why in ubunto i cant open pages from the internet (cause i can acess my router page) in firefox (in windows its everything fine)? :s
[07:14] <calebme> Can anyone help me with my X problem? It won't start...I have an Nvidie Geforce 6600GT 128mb AGP8x
[07:14] <HappyFool> shingoki__: hmm. never had problems with that part of the setup
[07:14] <Rubin> r2: sounds like your network isnt configured properly
[07:14] <nalioth> heien: i'd add in the 80-gigger
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> r2,  try pinging the sites , and pinging their ip#. if the # works. its a dns issue.
[07:14] <heien> Okay, but then i'll have to go offline? :D *cries*
[07:15] <r2> i pinged google.com and it worked :s
[07:15] <shingoki__> calebme, my geforce 2 gts is giving me trouble too
[07:15] <Rubin> heien: the 80gig in your closet is the way to go.
[07:15] <axel> Doc i need an ubuntu deaddiction prescription
[07:15] <calebme> I have yet to actually login into Ubuntu though ....
[07:15] <calebme> This is fresh install of 5.10...
[07:15] <Rubin> r2: so you can ping google.com but firefox wont load it?
[07:15] <calebme> runnign in terminal fullscreen atm...irssi ftw
[07:15] <r2> yeah :s
[07:15] <calebme> >_<"
[07:16] <Rubin> r2: what is your internet connection through? a university?
[07:16] <r2> once i was able to load firefox.com but it was very slow
[07:16] <heien> Rubin, i'll put it in now then...brb.. :)
[07:16] <r2> no im at home connected through wireless
[07:16] <AIF> What should I do in Help index, dont find any suitable option what could help me
[07:16] <devint> holy mother of god
[07:17] <devint> you guys have no idea how hyped i am about ubuntu right now
[07:17] <Rubin> r2: hmm. try this sudo ping -s 1024 firefox.com
[07:17] <axel> devint, me too
[07:17] <devint> you know how easy it is to whip up a gnome application with glide and ajunta!?
[07:17] <devint> i mean
[07:17] <calebme> awsome devint! You an expert yet I need help
[07:17] <shingoki__> how on earth do I get "bash: /var/lib/xfree86/X.md5sum: Permission denied" when I sudo?
[07:17] <AIF> I could also be if my would work >_<
[07:17] <Rubin> r2: could be that your connection is so minimal that only small packets ever make it over the network
[07:17] <shingoki__> I mean... sudo, can't it do anything?
[07:17] <r2> Rubin, it worked
[07:18] <Rubin> r2: hmm
[07:18] <axel> Ubunto to OS is like Mozart to music
[07:18] <shingoki__> damn, the last time I installed ubuntu it all worked beautifully, this time has been hell
[07:18] <Rubin> r2: make sure no proxies are configured in firefox
[07:18] <r2> ok
[07:18] <Rubin> r2: are you on IRC from that system currently?
[07:18] <calebme> SAME HERE MAN!!! god...we need hang shingoki
[07:18] <r2> yes
[07:18] <shingoki__> if the first thing I try to do to get nvidia drivers is this bad, I am worried about how much other stuff has been broken
[07:18] <Rubin> so its JUST firefox thats broken
[07:18] <calebme> to hang*
[07:18] <r2> i'm in ubuntu in IRC but cant see any sites :s
[07:18] <shingoki__> is breezy just hoary with stuff broken then?
[07:19] <axel> shingoki__, you have to learn that tou cannot tame an Ubuntu, the Ubuntu tames you
[07:19] <ceej> for some reason when i use gnome art manager and click install on a window boarder theme it just opens up the theme prefrences box and doesn't do anything else
[07:19] <Rubin> r2: close all your open firefoxes, and in your home dir run: mv .firefox .firefox-backup
[07:19] <nalioth> shingoki__: of course it is. thats why the devs spent 6 months working so hard....to break things
[07:19] <r2> no proxys beeing used
[07:19] <axel> ceej, me too
[07:19] <stratovarius> guys I tried to play enemy territory but I can shoot I have no army and on down side of the screen is written spectator.what can I do?
[07:19] <axel> ceej, havent tried to fix it yet tho
[07:20] <stratovarius> *cant shoot
[07:20] <ceej> axel:ye i don't know whats going on its werid
[07:20] <axel> stratovarius, have you tried to open the limbo menu to select a team ?
[07:21] <calebme> srsly, no one here can help me out with my x problem?
[07:21] <axel> ceej, yep well good luck lad
[07:21] <stratovarius> axel: dunno how to select a tema.to open limbo menu I gotta press L and then what do I jave to do?
[07:21] <topyli> axel: thet's not true. ubuntu is for you, you are not for ubuntu
[07:21] <axel> ceej, click on the flags
[07:22] <axel> ceej, sry not for u
[07:22] <stratovarius> axel click on the flag and choose a team
[07:22] <axel> stratovarius, you have to click on the team falgs on the right
[07:22] <axel> stratovarius, not the ones on the map
[07:22] <stratovarius> ok I'll try
[07:22] <wx9j> have a hard drive with no partitions on it now but still had grub in MBR, is there a command like fdisk /MBR in Linux as in DOS
[07:23] <stratovarius> axel do I have to know some other things to play?
[07:23] <calebme> Can anyone help me with my X problem? It won't start...I have an Nvidie Geforce 6600GT 128mb AGP8x
[07:23] <sethrd> calebme: What error do you get?
[07:23] <calebme> the screen of pixel rainbows
[07:23] <axel> stratovarius, cant think of anything right now
[07:24] <devint> does anybody know if one can use `defrag` on an ext3 partition?
[07:24] <stratovarius> ok
[07:24] <axel> stratovarius, just click on those nazis
[07:24] <heien> Back again.
[07:24] <calebme> well...maybe not pixels lol, but uhm yeah it's rainbow color alright sethrd
[07:24] <Rubin> devint: there is a way, but i think i read its not necessary. google will tell you (ext3 is ext2 + a journal file, so google ext2 defrag)
[07:24] <sethrd> calebme: Check your xorg file for resolutions.
[07:24] <calebme> I have yet to make it to the log-in screen
[07:24] <topyli> wx9j: there's this weird dd command i have never used. basically you write a certain amount of data from /dev/zero to the mbr
[07:25] <calebme> What do I do there seth
[07:25] <axel> topyli, yes i admit you got the point right
[07:25] <topyli> devint: you could, but you never do
[07:25] <heien> Rubin, in formatting the disk, gpart should do the trick, shouldnt i?
[07:25] <heien> t*
[07:25] <wx9j> topyli, thanks , I will look into that .
[07:25] <r2> rubin can we talk in pvp?
[07:25] <Agrajag> Rubin: anything that writes to ext3 thinking it's ext2 will probably screw up the journal
[07:25] <leo_> hello
[07:25] <Rubin> heien: i'm old school so i use mkfs
[07:25] <topyli> axel: yeah well, if it doesn't do what you want, then it's broken and some bugs must be filed
[07:25] <sethrd> When you get the screen of rainbows, hit ctrl+alt+backspace.
[07:26] <Rubin> Agrajag: yes, but doesnt that fix on the next boot?
[07:26] <sethrd> then login
[07:26] <leo_> Question: I have linux installed,  now what ?
[07:26] <heien> Rubin, hehe okay...been living linux for a long time?
[07:26] <sethrd> do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:26] <flamey> hi all
[07:26] <calebme> uh, yeah I am at that poitn dude
[07:26] <axel> topyli, yeah well i got more bugs on fedora than here it was such a relief, i can start working for real now
[07:26] <Rubin> r2: if you must
[07:26] <calebme> I am running irssi atm
[07:26] <HappyFool> leo_: what do you want to do with your computer?
[07:26] <Agrajag> Rubin: if the journal exists it can be used the fix the filesystem, if the journal itself is hosed, I'm not sure what would happen
[07:26] <devint> rubin & topyli: yeah, i've heard it's not really NECESSARY, but it certanly would be nice to do it if necessary
[07:26] <Rubin> heien: i'm an old debian convert heh
[07:27] <sethrd> Go down and change your res to something lower asnd try to startx.
[07:27] <Agrajag> I certainly wouldn't try it on anything I wanted to keep
[07:27] <topyli> devint: on smart file systems, fragmentation is not bad. on the contrary, it's good
[07:27] <r2> Rubin,  or just tell me how i can open a terminal in home dir, i'm in desktop dir
[07:27] <Rubin> Agrajag: if the filesystem doesnt need fixing, nothing. otherwise the checker runs and repairs any thing just like the old ext2 power out days
[07:27] <xinthea> anyone here using rosegarden?
[07:27] <calebme> brb
[07:27] <rockz> anyone have a problem with u click in "network server" and ubuntu ask a password?
[07:27] <sethrd> Got to go change my sons diaper. I'll be back in a minute.
[07:27] <Rubin> r2: applications -> accessories -> terminal
[07:27] <calebme> er..wait can I open a new screen or something or do I have to quit irssi
[07:28] <Rubin> Agrajag: i could be wrong, but thats my understanding
[07:28] <HappyFool> calebme: alt-f1 through alt-f6 will switch to different terminals
[07:28] <HappyFool> alt-f1 will probably bring you back to irssi
[07:28] <Agrajag> Rubin: hm. I'd still test it first.
[07:28] <heien> How long time should it take for write the partion tabels on the hdd?
[07:28] <Rubin> Agrajag: i'm with ya there :)
[07:28] <rockz> anyone know how i fix this problem: when i click in "network server" and ubuntu ask a password?
[07:29] <r2> its system tools -> terminal and it doesnt open in home dir its in home/user
[07:29] <axel> rockz, what i you type your sudo password in
[07:29] <Rubin> r2: /home/user is your home dir
[07:29] <HappyFool> rockz: enter your password
[07:29] <r2> lol me stupid -_-
[07:29] <Rubin> r2: nah your just learning :)
[07:29] <rockz> but ubuntu ask again
[07:29] <rockz> and again
[07:30] <Rubin> rockz: what asks??
[07:30] <axel> Thats right, linux is all about knowledge
[07:30] <calebme> ok
[07:30] <axel> u got to learn
[07:30] <r2> ty : P, but the command you told me doesnt work it says no such folder '.firefox'
[07:30] <zone17> Hi all, these last couple of days I have been installing kubuntu 5.10 for different people. In all cases I have gotten broken packages trying to install koffice, using the default source list. Isn't it possible to install koffice on kubuntu 5.10?
[07:30] <rockz> user: ... domain: ... and password:
[07:30] <sethrd> Well?
[07:30] <Rubin> r2: hmm
[07:30] <calebme> so in the xorg.conf i get blank, theres nothing to read or scroll I have never used GNU nano though...so maybe I am issing something
[07:30] <r2> btw gaim doesnt work either :s, this is weird
[07:31] <calebme> missing*
[07:31] <Rubin> r2: oh my bad, do: mv .mozilla .mozilla-backup maybe
[07:31] <rockz> i put my user name and password... but whein i click in connect dont go ... ubuntu ask again the same things
[07:31] <sethrd> you did sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:31] <calebme> yep
[07:31] <r2> done mate
[07:31] <calebme> nothing there...in the first screen
[07:31] <pc22> how do i configure wu-ftpd?
[07:31] <Rubin> rockz: it asks for your password when you do what?
[07:31] <ceej> is anyone else having trouble isntalling themes?
[07:31] <r2> oh and gaim works, i had wrong pw : P
[07:31] <calebme> is there a way to scroll or something
[07:32] <Rubin> calebme: shift-pageup/down
[07:32] <flamey> what do most of u guys/girls do with ur ubuntu systems?
[07:32] <rockz> Rubin,  when i click in "network servers"
[07:33] <stryemer> I've been having problems with gaim and synaptic. The solution for GAIM was to use the IP address of the MSN/Yahoo/AIM servers instead of the DNS name.
[07:33] <calebme> Rubin: Doesn't seem to show any text at all
[07:33] <sethrd> Rubin: He means in nano.
[07:33] <sethrd> calebme: Just use the arrow keys.
[07:33] <Rubin> rockz: under places? oh
[07:33] <rockz> yes
[07:33] <calebme> sethrd: then yeah...uhm...nothing there
[07:34] <Rubin> rockz: configuring samba is not easy in my experiance
[07:34] <sethrd> Back in a sec. Need to startx.
[07:34] <calebme> sethrd: With the arrow keys I can scroll...uhm, 4 lines down and up..thats it but it just a blinking _
[07:34] <rockz> :/
[07:35] <Rubin> rockz: you have an account on the box its trying to connect to?
[07:35] <rockz> yeah... when i use other distro i connect normaly to the other computer
[07:36] <Rubin> rockz: hmm. sorry i dont know
[07:36] <ceej> i've even exstracted the themes to the ./themes dir but still i can't install any custom themes!!
[07:36] <abarbaccia> hey all - i'm trying to install ubuntu on a new machine but it keeps hanging on loading ide-cd for linux atapi cdrom drives
[07:36] <abarbaccia> do i need this to load and is there some way to skip over it
[07:36] <r2> Rubin,  the command you gave me to move mozilla worked an it openned the ubuntu.com page but doesnt seem to find google.com :(
[07:37] <ceej> can anyone help?
[07:37] <magician> wenas gente ubuntera
[07:37] <magician> como va eso
[07:37] <Rubin> r2: thats really strange. in windows did you have to configure any kind of VPN or any login to use the internet?
[07:37] <r2> no nothing just wep for wireless
[07:37] <magician> jajajjjjajjja
[07:37] <magician> SPANISH GOOD
[07:38] <djm62> magician: ve a #ubuntu-es for espanol :)
[07:38] <r2> Rubin,  i read somewhere that firefox from ubuntu wasnt the latest version and it was slow i'll try to install the latest version
[07:39] <Rubin> r2: in firefox, edit -> prefs -> general -> connection settings: you have selected direct connection to the internet?
[07:39] <nalioth> r2 the latest version of ff is found full of bad things
[07:39] <r2> yes i have
[07:39] <nalioth> r2: do your research
[07:39] <r2> damn ty nalioth, do you recommend other browser?
[07:40] <Rubin> r2, try this: http://72.14.207.99/
[07:40] <r2> Rubin,  that worked :|
[07:40] <Cyphase> is there an easy way to surf the web over an SSH tunnel?
[07:40] <Rubin> r2: your having DNS issues. make sure /etc/resolv.conf has your DNS servers in it
[07:40] <nalioth> r2: of course i do. i recommedn galeon (i use it) or konqueror (i use it, too). there are also epiphany, kazehakase, (i dont recommend >>) opera
[07:41] <heien> Rubin, finnally i started transffering files :D
[07:41] <r2> thanks nalioth  i'll try konqueror
[07:41] <superchode|fu> opera rules
[07:41] <Rubin> Cyphase: sorta, depending what you mean
[07:41] <Rubin> Cyphase: any website that is https:// is using encryption like ssh does
[07:41] <Cyphase> lol, i know
[07:41] <Rubin> Cyphase: or you can use ssh to tunnel all your connections via another machine you have access to
[07:42] <ceej> E: gforge-db-postgresql: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[07:42] <Cyphase> yes, i know that too
[07:42] <Cyphase> :)
[07:42] <Cyphase> but..
[07:42] <Rubin> i think its the -D commandline, and a socks proxy config in firefox
[07:42] <ceej> can't remove it......whats going on?
[07:42] <Cyphase> ah..
[07:42] <Cyphase> ok
[07:43] <Cyphase> all i knew about was that you can create tunnels that have to specify the destination host upon creation
[07:43] <Cyphase> but -D..
[07:43] <Cyphase> thanx
[07:43] <Rubin> ceej: sounds like you found a bug. did you make any manual changes to the files in that package? or install any packages from outside sources related to it?
[07:43] <ceej> Rubin:nope i installed everything from synapctic package manager
[07:43] <gnomefreak> is dapper that much different from breezy that people have to ask how to use?
[07:44] <HappyFool> people who have to ask shouldn't be using it yet
[07:44] <Rubin> ceej: bummer :( someone better with debugging .debs than i am will have to help you :(
[07:44] <r2> Rubin,  what should be in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[07:44] <r2> Rubin,  nameserver ip?
[07:44] <ceej> Rubin:/ think its got to do with not being able to change my themes
[07:45] <Rubin> r2: first line is "search something.com" if you want a 'default' domain. then 'nameserver x.x.x.x' as many lines as you want
[07:45] <Homer> does ubuntu include apt-get?
[07:45] <gnomefreak> homer: yes
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:45] <Rubin> ceej: its going to break everything pakage related
[07:46] <Homer> and by default does ubuntu have a GUI package manager (perhaps based on apt-get?)
[07:46] <Rubin> ceej: try posting on the ubuntu forums
[07:46] <NoUse> Homer yes and yes
[07:46] <gnomefreak> homer: yes
[07:46] <ceej> Rubin: crap!! i just a total re-install
[07:46] <Homer> ok cool thanks
[07:46] <ceej> i just did*
[07:46] <gnomefreak> homer: gui= aynaptic
[07:46] <gnomefreak> synaptic*
[07:46] <Rubin> ceej: you just did a total reinstall and that happened?
[07:47] <ceej> Rubin:yep i've just been re installing things
[07:47] <r2> Rubin, how do i go with a Terminal to /etc ?
[07:48] <ab0do> Hi, what does this mean - W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[07:48] <holycow> hi all
[07:48] <NoUse> !tell ab0do about gpgerr
[07:48] <ab0do> And how do I fix it.
[07:48] <holycow> hey breezy isn't automounting usb drives
[07:48] <holycow> what steps can i take to debug the issue?
[07:48] <norskfjord> I need help with the ircd-hybrid
[07:48] <norskfjord> I can only connect on 127.0.0.1
[07:48] <ab0do> Thanks manG.
[07:48] <holycow> log sees the usb being plugged
[07:48] <norskfjord> no one on the net can connect
[07:48] <Rubin> r2: system -> admin -> networking has a front end to that file
[07:48] <ceej> Rubin:E: gforge-db-postgresql: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 100
[07:49] <Janbanan> Does anyone know a good site that explains how to pimp my desktop?
[07:49] <Homer> anyone know what widget toolkit OOo uses?
[07:49] <ceej> Rubin:wups....
[07:49] <Rubin> ceej: i dont understand. you mean you were going to all the pakcages in synaptec and checking 'reinstall'?
[07:49] <oidia> How do i install / aktivate a firewall?
[07:49] <webwolf_27> Janbanan, describe "pimp my desktop"
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:50] <webwolf_27> oidia, sound like your looking for firewallbuilder
[07:50] <Janbanan> webwolf_27, make it look better
[07:50] <ceej> Rubin: its saying this in the terminal: Setting up gforge-db-postgresql (3.1-31) invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/postgresql not found....
[07:51] <shingoki__> yup I confirmed it - sudo nvidia-glx-config enable doesn't even touch my xorg.conf
[07:51] <ceej> rubin:theres more but i think its just to do with that error
[07:51] <pitti> ceej: right, the gforge package is broken
[07:51] <nadia> trying to install ubuntu, would like to do a sofware raid0 on two 18GB scsi drives, how do I configure the partitions so that the raid will work?
[07:51] <ceej> pitti:ok, well what do i need to do?
[07:51] <pitti> ceej: it needs to use a specific psql version, like /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.1
[07:52] <webwolf_27> Janbanan, http://themes.freshmeat.net http://www.digitalblasphemy.com http://www.freewallpapers.to
[07:52] <pitti> ceej: the best is to file a Debian bug, severity grave
[07:52] <HaschHase> hi, im here again ^^
[07:52] <Rubin> ceej: you could try to trick it by creating a script in /etc/init.d/ called postgresql that does nothing.. but your treading dangerous water messing with the package system so i'd consult an expert
[07:52] <HaschHase> now i get these error, Unsupported codec for output stream #0.1
[07:52] <HaschHase>  , when i do this , ffmpeg -i mudvayne.avi -i audiodump.wav -b 48 -ac  -map 0.0 -map 1.0 mudvayne.3gp
[07:52] <oidia> webwolf_27, easy? firewallbuilder?, sounds advanced..
[07:53] <shingoki__> so why is nvidia-glx-config all messed up?
[07:53] <ceej> pitti:whats the best way to file a debian bug?
[07:53] <pitti> ceej: use reportbug on a Debian system
[07:53] <webwolf_27> oidia, the easiest you'll get. But I'd suggest reading the iptables man page as well
[07:53] <pitti> ceej: or just file the bug manually with email
[07:53] <Rubin> ceej: arnt you runnig ubuntu?
[07:53] <ceej> ye im running ubuntu
[07:54] <pitti> ceej: mail to submit@bugs.debian.org, and start the mail with
[07:54] <pitti> Package: gforge-db-postgresql
[07:54] <pitti> Severity: grave
[07:54] <sethrd> Rubin: Just curious. Did calebme get his stuff fixed?
[07:54] <Rubin> the info for that package suggests mailing Bugs: mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
[07:54] <pitti> Version: 3.1-31
[07:54] <HaschHase> nobody an idea how to convert a .avi to an 3gp file?
[07:54] <HaschHase> somehow im missing codecs
[07:54] <Rubin> sethrd: i didn't see
[07:54] <pitti> ceej: this will work
[07:54] <sethrd> Thanks Rubin.
[07:55] <webwolf_27> HaschHase, use avidemux
[07:55] <ceej> pitti: and jsut send what it says in the terminal?
[07:55] <sethrd> It's tough having a 4 month old and trying to fix yours/others computers at the same time.
[07:55] <pitti> ceej: yes
[07:55] <ceej> k
[07:55] <webwolf_27> HaschHase, if anything can, it can
[07:55] <pitti> ceej: please add that gforge shuold use postgresql-8.1
[07:55] <Rubin> sethrd: nod. i gave a 4 week old :)
[07:55] <HaschHase> ill give a try webwolf_27
[07:55] <sethrd> Rubin: Great fun, isn't it? Personally, I love it.
[07:56] <webwolf_27> HaschHase, never tried it with 3gp though
[07:56] <sethrd> Rubin: It your first?
[07:56] <Rubin> yep
[07:56] <Rubin> #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:57] <HaschHase> hmm i hope it works webwolf_27
[07:57] <r2> Rubin,  i have the same dns ip that i have in windows and still it doesnt find www.google.com only with direct ip, any idea?
[07:57] <webwolf_27> HaschHase, I couldn't tell you where you'd get a codec otherwise. Maybe mplayer website
[07:57] <Rubin> r2: just for kicks try putting in 128.193.4.20 as your DNS server
[07:58] <HaschHase> webwolf_27, i downloaded every single codec, aac, mpeg4, faac and all this stuff, nothing works
[07:58] <sethrd> Rubin: What system is that?
[07:58] <Rubin> its a nameserver at oregon state university
[07:58] <webwolf_27> HaschHase, is it proprietary
[07:58] <shingoki__> FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile/nvidia.ko): No such device
[07:58] <shingoki__> ok so ubuntu is just broken, great, only really good linux distro now AFU
[07:59] <orbx> does anyone know what the main config file is on ubuntu apache?
[07:59] <ThePyromaniac> hey guys, can anyone help me improve a command? its a search and destroy shell command
[07:59] <ThePyromaniac> find -name 'desktop.ini' -o -name 'Thumbs.db' -o -name 'Folder.jpg' -o -name 'AlbumArt*'| xargs rm -
[07:59] <webwolf_27> so I'm out. the baby snake's hungry
[07:59] <sethrd> shingoki__: No, Ubuntu isn't broke, just your nVidia module.
[07:59] <oidia> webwolf_27, is it installed already?
[07:59] <ceej> pitti:sent it, how long does it normaly take to fix?
[08:00] <Rubin> ThePyromaniac: find has a built in 'execute a command on this file' function
[08:00] <webwolf_27> oidia, no idea
[08:00] <shingoki__> sethrd, yeah but I have done nothing except install ubuntu then try to install nvidia
[08:00] <webwolf_27> I'm out. next time folks
[08:00] <pitti> ceej: depends on the maintainer
[08:00] <Sanne> orbx: on Debian it's /etc/apache/httpd.conf, have a look there
[08:00] <britishseapower> how do i turn off all the leaves and joins messages etc in xchat...so i just see chat?
[08:01] <Rubin> britishseapower: right click the channel tab
[08:01] <ThePyromaniac> rubin well ok im not too worried about the command in itself as it works, but the problem is as follows. i want it to scan many folders (all my MP3's with folders being artist names). problem is spaces break the search as it thinks /Guns is one and Roses is something else
[08:02] <Rubin> ThePyromaniac: using the built in find exec thing would solve that
[08:02] <Homer> can ubuntu use Reiser4?
[08:02] <K_Dallas> hi guys! Q: how do i setup my dsl connection? (ubuntu 10) thanks
[08:02] <foxgamer> Can anyone help with a version conflict with xscreensaver? TIA
[08:03] <Seveas> K_Dallas, sudo pppoeconfig
[08:03] <K_Dallas> thanks Seveas
[08:03] <K_Dallas> (had to reboot to windows to ask the q ;)
[08:03] <Rubin> r2: any luck?
[08:04] <sethrd> Alright, time to shower.
[08:04] <sethrd> Later all.
[08:04] <r2> Rubin,  not:( and didnt try the ip you said,
[08:05] <Rubin> r2: when you ping google.com in the terminal, what IP does it say its pinging?
[08:05] <r2> 72.14.207.99
[08:05] <ThePyromaniac> rubin how? :D
[08:05] <ThePyromaniac> i didnt make this, a mate did
[08:05] <orbx> Thankyou Sanne that worked, but do you know how to install php5 on apache?
[08:06] <orbx> i have only installed it on Windows IIS 6.0 Sanne
[08:06] <Rubin> r2: that seems right
[08:06] <r2> Rubin, maybe just conflict with firefox?
[08:06] <Sanne> orbx: well, I installed php4 on Debian, want me to look for what packages I have? Maybe you can translate it to php5 and ubuntu.
[08:07] <r2> now gaim doesnt work either bah
[08:07] <Rubin> ThePyromaniac: its been a long time since i used it; i think its "-exec rm {} ;"
[08:07] <Rubin> r2: its something really obscure
[08:07] <Rubin> r2: is it your router?
[08:07] <shyko> wenas
[08:07] <shyko> algun espaol?
[08:08] <nalioth> !es
[08:08] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:08] <Rubin> ThePyromaniac: oh, try just -delete
[08:08] <Rubin> ThePyromaniac: theres a built in for it :)
[08:08] <r2> Rubin,  dont think so, never had problems in windows
[08:09] <AMDXP> wow i got it all set up
[08:09] <AMDXP> i like this
[08:09] <r2> Rubin,  i have a router modem has a modem then connected to a wireless router to wich i'm connected
[08:09] <shyko> alguien me ayuda?
[08:09] <Sanne> orbx: or maybe you can see if this helps (for php4 also): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:10] <Rubin> r2: it could be maybe the router is expecting a perticular computername in the DHCP request and is intentionally breaking web traffic if its different. or something weird
[08:10] <ThePyromaniac> aha! thanks
[08:10] <ThePyromaniac> thanks rubin
[08:10] <Rubin> np
[08:11] <britishseapower> xchat is still showing joins and leaves...how do i turn them off?
[08:11] <Rubin> britishseapower: in my version, you right click the tab, select the channel name, and un-check joins/parts
[08:12] <britishseapower> Rubin, ok lemme see
[08:12] <HaschHase> how can i convert a .mpg file to 3gp , mp4 or h263
[08:12] <HaschHase> need help!!
[08:13] <Rubin> HaschHase: this is probably not the right place to ask that
[08:13] <HaschHase> where then?
[08:14] <blaamann_laptop>  HaschHase: ffmpeg
[08:14] <Loevborg> HaschHase, have a look at mencode (from mplayer) or transcode, though I doubt they can encode those advanced codecs.
[08:14] <trappist> HaschHase: or mencoder
[08:14] <trappist> (it's mencoder)
[08:14] <HaschHase> i tried both, nothing works
[08:14] <HaschHase> with ffmpeg i get always, unsupported codec error
[08:14] <blaamann_laptop> HaschHase: If you can watch a movie with mplayer you can encode it with mencoder
[08:14] <trappist> !tell HaschHase about w32codecs
[08:15] <HaschHase> well blaamann_laptop, i can watch, i want to convert them to watch them on my mobile phone
[08:16] <blaamann_laptop> HaschHase: I do that with ffmpeg. You need to check if ffmpeg or mplayer is build with amr support. If not you need to build it yourself
[08:16] <HaschHase> hm and how can i do this?
[08:17] <shadikka> Hi all :)
[08:17] <blaamann_laptop> HaschHase: Google, try ffmpeg amr
[08:17] <shadikka> How do I install xine? sudo apt-get install xine says the thing about no installation candidates...
[08:17] <shadikka> Or how do I get to play mp3s with Amarok? ^;
[08:18] <blaamann_laptop> shadikka: convert them to ogg
[08:18] <onkarshinde> which package to install to use iconv in development?
[08:19] <shadikka> blaamann, I thought about doing that but I admit that I'm a bad creature and (yaddayaddayadda) don't know how to convert them without losing quality...
[08:19] <shadikka> (read: I don't have the albums for the most part ^^)
[08:19] <blaamann_laptop> shadikka: Read the section about restricted formats
[08:20] <shadikka> ok.
[08:20] <shadikka> (How come I didn't read it? Please excuse me while I go damage the nearest wall with my head)
[08:20] <NoUse> !mp3
[08:20] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:21] <ispiked> what are the fastest mirrors for packages now?
[08:21] <HaschHase> thanks blaamann_laptop
[08:21] <onkarshinde> ispiked: Depends in your country
[08:22] <ispiked> onfire_nux: US.
[08:22] <ispiked> err...
[08:22] <ispiked> onkarshinde, rather.
[08:22] <ispiked> ompaul: are you in Ireland?
[08:23] <onkarshinde> which package to install to use iconv in development?
[08:24] <ompaul> ispiked, I am
[08:24] <ispiked> ompaul: speak of the devil. I was just asking if the US mirrors were still slow after looking at the ie mirrors I'm using now (which /you/ told me to switch to. :P)
[08:25] <ompaul> ispiked, I have no idea if they are good or bad - but I know the kind of bandwidth in heanet
[08:26] <NoUse> onkarshinde search for iconv in synaptic
[08:26] <onkarshinde> NoUse: Done already, confused about result
[08:27] <shadikka> Yep. Works now ^^ Thanks for pointing out the obvious for a moron who's too lazy to look at the docs himself. (Self-criticism ahoy.)
[08:27] <Karat3> hi
[08:27] <NoUse> onkarshinde probably want to ask in a channel more specific to development and/or iconv
[08:27] <Karat3> is it possible to get a console from the kubuntu installer cd???
[08:27] <onkarshinde> NoUse: Do you know any such channel?
[08:28] <NoUse> onkarshinde not off hand, I bet there is something on freenode
[08:28] <ispiked> how can I tell apt-get to remove a source of a package that I installed and not the package itself?
[08:28] <shadikka> It has been proved out again! >__<
[08:28] <orbx> Sanne, i mean is there a config file in apache which makes php avaliable?
[08:28] <shadikka> In Windows my music playing is jerky, lags and well, sucks. In Ubuntu - no problems! Works perfectly.
[08:29] <NoUse> ispiked how did you install the source?
[08:29] <shadikka> ah well, another reason to use Windows only to play RO.
[08:29] <blaamann_laptop> What is RO ?
[08:29] <shadikka> Ragnarok Online.
[08:29] <blaamann_laptop> ok
[08:29] <ispiked> NoUse: sudo apt-get source linux-image-2.6.12-9-386. I saw the source package on synaptics and figured it'd be easier to get that (so I can uninstall it later and see what files it instalelled, etc).
[08:30] <ispiked> shadikka: what music player on Windows?
[08:30] <orbx> NoUse: do you know anything about apache?
[08:30] <shadikka> ispiked, foobar2000
[08:30] <shadikka> And it does it on every player I've tested..
[08:30] <NoUse> ispiked apt-get source just downlods and unpacks the your current working directory, so you can just delete it
[08:30] <NoUse> orbx a bit
[08:30] <Sanne> orbx: do you mean how to load the apache php module?
[08:30] <ispiked> orbx: you need help getting php working with apache?
[08:30] <NoUse> !php
[08:30] <ubotu> somebody said lamp was Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:31] <ispiked> orbx: you need two lines in the httpd.conf.
[08:31] <ispiked> NoUse: alright, thanks.
[08:32] <orbx> ispiked , NoUse , Sanne: i have the file httpd.conf open, what do i look for to get php actually running on ubuntu because at the moment if i go to http://localhost/test.php it tries to download the file insted of viewing in a browser
[08:32] <shingoki> ok seriously - is it just me, or is nvidia support completely broken?
[08:32] <shingoki> I installed all the packages for k7 kernel, I don't even have an nvidia module, modprobe fails
[08:33] <NoUse> orbx follow the wiki link that ubotu posted a few minutes ago
[08:33] <Bald0z> is it me or synaptic had an "orphane" feature in precedent versions? I'm running 0.57 included in breeze now... and it doesn't have it
[08:33] <NoUse> shingoki nvidia for me was a snap, you followed the wiki instructions
[08:33] <shingoki> also, synaptic will start directly from terminal, but NOT as advanced mode of add software
[08:33] <orbx> NoUse: i have followed that before didn't seem to helo :S
[08:33] <shingoki> NoUse, yes I followed the wiki instructions, using both legacy and non legacy
[08:34] <shingoki> ok that is 3 people with broken nvidia in here, I think it is just broken
[08:34] <shingoki> damn
[08:34] <NoUse> shingoki what error do you get with modprobe?
[08:34] <shingoki> FATAL: Module nvidia not found.
[08:34] <fbafelipe> /etc/profile is not being executed! how do i set the system to execute it on startup?
[08:34] <shingoki> before I went to k7 kernel it failed saying no device
[08:34] <ispiked> orbx: add this line to httpd.conf: AddHandler application/x-httpd-php .php
[08:34] <shingoki> lspci shows I have a geforce 2 GTS
[08:35] <r2> Rubin, how is it possible that ping resolves the name and firefox doesnt? :|
[08:35] <shingoki> When I run nvidia-glx-config it does nothing, prints nothing to the console, doesn't alter xorg.conf
[08:35] <shingoki> I was really really looking forward to running ubuntu as well, got a new HDD for it
[08:35] <Rubin> r2: we dont know that firefox isnt resolving it; i suspect port 80 is being blocked
[08:35] <NoUse> shingoki run 'dpkg -l | grep nvidia'
[08:36] <r2> Rubin,  but i can acess through ip
[08:36] <Rubin> r2: hmm good point
[08:36] <GoClick> I'm running 5.04 right now and I'd like to upgrade to 5.10, can I do this through some easy means rather than downloading the image?
[08:36] <Rubin> r2: thats the weirdest thing iv ever seen.
[08:36] <NoUse> !tell GoClick about breezy
[08:36] <shingoki> linux restricted modules legacy for 386 and k7 kernel, nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-legacy, nvidia-kernel-common
[08:36] <dducko> !breezy
[08:36] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:36] <r2> Rubin, lol sorry :P
[08:36] <ispiked> orbx: also, make sure you're loading the php module.
[08:36] <Rubin> r2: if it was a windows box, i'd say the dns 32bit dll was corrupted; but it isnt, os i have no idea
[08:36] <ispiked> orbx: that'll probably be something like: LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5.so
[08:37] <NoUse> shingoki all are you installed? they can be listed there and not be installed
[08:37] <fbafelipe> /etc/profile is not being executed! how do i set the system to execute it on startup?
[08:37] <bina> hi
[08:37] <r2> i think i'll ask someone to give me golean through msn and try it
[08:37] <NoUse> fbafelipe it gets executed at login, not startup
[08:37] <r2> i'll let you know if it solved the problem
[08:37] <Rubin> r2: hang on
[08:37] <shingoki> only k7 restricted ledgacy, glx-legacy and nvidia-kernel-common have "ii"
[08:37] <shingoki> others are "rc"
[08:37] <bina> is there something i can do to allow me to use /dev/lp0 and /dev/usb/lp0, at the moment I have to chmod 777 every time i want to print a document
[08:37] <NoUse> shingoki what kind of nvidia card are you using?
[08:38] <fbafelipe> NoUse: it is not executing, not even at login
[08:38] <stazich> are there any PPC users here?
[08:38] <shingoki> NoUse, geforce 2 GTS, I had it running under warty, and debian testing
[08:38] <NoUse> fbafelipe point your .bashrc or .bash_profile to it
[08:38] <shingoki> NoUse, I think it is "legacy"
[08:38] <Rubin> r2: mkdir foo; wget http://www.googl.com
[08:38] <Rubin> r2: does that work?
[08:38] <Rubin> should create a file index.html
[08:39] <gnomefreak> google*
[08:39] <fbafelipe> but i need the variables I set working on gnome (not only on terminal)
[08:39] <shingoki> NoUse, thanks for help btw :)
[08:39] <ubuntu> save
[08:39] <Rubin> r2: er, yeah: mkdir foo; cd foo; wget http://www.google.com
[08:39] <ubuntu> a
[08:39] <ispiked> orbx: ping?
[08:39] <Rubin> r2: if so, then synaptec should work, so you can install another browser via that
[08:39] <fbafelipe> or i will have to create a .sh for a lot of executables that need that variables
[08:40] <gnomefreak> links2 :)
[08:40] <Rubin> fbafelipe: i think if you add them to your .profile, and restart x, it will be there
[08:40] <NoUse> shingoki sure, I haven't use the legacy drivers, check /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx-* to see if there is something special you need to do
[08:40] <r2> Rubin,  it worked :|
[08:40] <fbafelipe> Rubin: I will try it, thank you
[08:41] <r2> Rubin, what is synaptec ?
[08:41] <Rubin> r2: so use the package manager to install galeon
[08:41] <NoUse> shingoki the driver is listed as nvidia_drv.so so you might need to modprobe nvidia_drv, and make sure when you call sudo nvidia-glx-config that you have 'enable' at the end
[08:42] <Rubin> r2: system -> administration -> synaptec package management system
[08:42] <r2> yeah i found it :)
[08:42] <shingoki> mvidia_drv not found either
[08:42] <blackhat> I just APT-Getted a program and it downloaded and I canceled before it installed and I changed my mind and no longer want it, where are the files it downloaded so I can remove it?
[08:42] <gnomefreak> synaptic=GUI package manager for debian
[08:43] <NoUse> shingoki sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx-legacy and then reinstall
[08:43] <Rubin> r2: it could be some library firefox uses to do DNS lookups is broken, or maybe the resolv.conf file is corrupted in a way that ping works with but firefox does not, or a corrupted file is causing mayhem
[08:43] <gnomefreak> blackhat, sudo apt-get remove <programname>
[08:43] <blackhat> gnomefreak but it never installed
[08:43] <blackhat> so it cannot find it
[08:43] <Rubin> apt-get clean
[08:43] <gnomefreak> blackhat,  sudo apt-get clean
[08:43] <Rubin> or finish installing it, and then remove it
[08:43] <r2> Rubin,  its weird caus i just installed ubuntu and didnt install anything, just configured my wep key with iwconfig
[08:43] <NoUse> shingoki on the wiki it says someone had a GF2 MX and had to use the normal glx drivefrs
[08:43] <blackhat> Thank you.
[08:44] <Rubin> r2: yeah its not a normal problem, its something really obscure
[08:44] <Seveas> r2, if dns is only failing in the fox
[08:44] <Seveas> r2: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.
[08:44] <Rubin> r2: i suspect maybe a corrupted file or something
[08:44] <r2> i'll try
[08:44] <bLuETeK> hi!
[08:45] <N6REJ> here's my main.cf    http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4673
[08:45] <r2> omg Seveas i love you :D
[08:45] <r2> Rubin, it's working now :D
[08:45] <N6REJ> oops, wrong place LOL
[08:45] <anatole> re
[08:46] <Rubin> haha weird. so his ISP supports ipv6, and google gives it to him, but his router doesn so it breaks?
[08:46] <Rubin> nutty.
[08:46] <anatole> can someone tell me the command to close a query in irssi? :D
[08:46] <NoUse>           network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox
[08:46] <NoUse>           to see the effect.
[08:46] <NoUse> sorry guys, mouse slip
[08:46] <r2> i'm so happy  ^_^ lol
[08:47] <Rubin> i think you owe Seveas a beer
[08:47] <r2> thank you Rubin and Seveas
[08:47] <bLuETeK> after install webmin I tried https://myip from another computer and I get ERROR  Access denied for IP, can you give me any clue ??
[08:47] <shingoki> NoUse, yup I saw that on the wiki, so I tried both glx and legacy, neither work
[08:47] <shingoki> NoUse, they fail in different interesting ways :)
[08:47] <r2> yeah i think so :P
[08:47] <Xappe> anatole: /wc
[08:47] <NoUse> shingoki I'm not really good and troubleshooting nvidia drivers cause I've had trouble with them :-)
[08:47] <NoUse> I've never*
[08:48] <anatole> thanks Xappe
[08:48] <r2> Rubin, just one more thing, do you know of any good codec package for linux?
[08:48] <shingoki> NoUse, I've never had any trouble before, I was really surprised it broke
[08:48] <shingoki> I think it's because of this l;egacy thing
[08:49] <Xappe> anatole: that goes for any window in irssi
[08:49] <NoUse> shingoki have you looked on ubuntuforums?
[08:49] <shingoki> NoUse, I found some people with problems, but not the same ones :)
[08:49] <Rubin> r2: system -> help -> starter guide has some pointers to getting codecs going
[08:49] <Seveas> Rubin, if everybody in here that I help buys me a beer, I'd always be drunk :)
[08:50] <Rubin> Seveas: if you were drunk you wouldnt help anyone, so it would be a self leveling system
[08:50] <Seveas> hehehe, nice :)
[08:50] <r2> i think i need to read some stuff then :) laters
[08:50] <J_Man> who says?   I help people all the time when I'm drunk
[08:51] <Rubin> J_Man: not nearly drunk enough, then.
[08:51] <blackhat> Is there anyone here that can tell  me how to install WMPAger, its not in APT-Get, and I cannot compile the source I get an error.
[08:53] <[w3bsmith] > hello all
[08:53] <shingoki> FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-k7/volatile/nvidia.ko): No such device
[08:53] <shingoki> That is what I get with the non legacy drivers
[08:53] <[w3bsmith] > does anyone know what package I need to download to fix mkmf?
[08:53] <NoUse> shingoki ok
[08:54] <NoUse> shingoki that makes sense
[08:54] <pontiacman> hello
[08:54] <gnomefreak> hi
[08:54] <pontiacman> need some help  - laptop user here
[08:55] <[w3bsmith] > hi pontiac
[08:55] <gnomefreak> pontiacman,  go ahead ask away
[08:55] <pontiacman> i w3b
[08:55] <pontiacman> hi*
[08:56] <pontiacman> yes...the gui version does not work on my system for some reason... i went through config... rebooted.. and it still fails to load
[08:56] <shingoki> NoUse, yes I guess it doesn't want to deal with my GF2
[08:56] <slew> hi, what is the website that lists linux drivers? specifically, i have a logitech game pad.
[08:57] <mitza> hey i dont have make;says command not found;and i dont have the install cd ...
[08:57] <mitza> where can i find it ?
[08:57] <NoUse> shingoki I would install the legacy drivers and read the docs in /usr/share/doc and see if the module is named something different
[08:57] <shingoki> NoUse, thanks
[08:58] <[w3bsmith] > so anyone have an idea why mkmf is not on my system
[08:58] <[w3bsmith] > yet I have the latest make installed?
[08:58] <pontiacman> nope
[08:58] <shingoki> Is there a way to list installed modules?
[08:58] <mitza> make command not found; ?!?!?!
[08:58] <[w3bsmith] > make is find
[08:58] <[w3bsmith] > mkmf is not
[08:59] <pontiacman> anyone have a sager laptop?
[08:59] <[w3bsmith] > make is fine that is
[08:59] <NoUse> shingoki they are put in /lib/modules/kernelversion/
[08:59] <[w3bsmith] > mkmf is not
[08:59] <mitza> i have no make!!!
[08:59] <NoUse> shingoki dpkg -L nvidia-glx-legacy will show the files that package installs
[08:59] <gnomefreak> [w3bsmith] ,  he doesnt have make
[08:59] <mitza> i wanna compile a new kernel and i dont have make
[08:59] <[w3bsmith] > and I need it to compile some ruby files
[08:59] <mitza> its on the install cd but i dont have it near me
[09:00] <[w3bsmith] > mitza: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:01] <pontiacman> heh.... alot of people..... none with any knowlege?
[09:01] <mitza> no instaliation candidate
[09:01] <mitza> ?!
[09:02] <mitza> any other ideea ?
[09:03] <Sanne> shingoki: lsmod
[09:04] <blackvd> have a prob with my res on my login screen its set too high,how can I change it?
[09:04] <pontiacman> uhh anyone here.... have ubuntu on a laptop?
[09:04] <slew> hi, what is the website that lists linux drivers? specifically, i have a logitech game pad.
[09:04] <pontiacman> maybe the sager line?
[09:05] <NoUse> slew what kind?
[09:05] <shingoki> I have no driver that looks like nvidia
[09:05] <mitza> pontiacman i have a presario m200
[09:06] <mitza> 2000
[09:06] <NoUse> shingoki nvidia-glx-legacy installs nvidia_drv.so I think
[09:06] <shingoki> /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o
[09:06] <shingoki> that is just some X thing I think?
[09:06] <shingoki> not a kernel module
[09:06] <mitza> make ;command not found!!!!where can i find it?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!dammit
[09:06] <pontiacman> did you have any problems installing the gui
[09:06] <pontiacman> cause mine..... isnt working right
[09:07] <MarcN> mitza: apt-get install build-essentials
[09:07] <mitza> i did that
[09:07] <mae> how can i regenerate the hostkey for sshd
[09:07] <[w3bsmith] > mitza: try apt-get download build-essential
[09:07] <mitza> no instalation candidate...
[09:07] <[w3bsmith] > it should force a download
[09:07] <DRMacIver> I've just upgraded to breezy badger and X is failing in a very irritating way - it doesn't give any error messages that I can see. It just doesn't do anything.
[09:08] <dducko> Whats your Video card?>
[09:08] <[w3bsmith] > mitza: sudo apt-get update
[09:08] <NoUse> shingoki you'll also have a package called linux-resistricted-*nvidia-legacy
[09:08] <[w3bsmith] > mitza: sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:08] <shingoki> I don't really understand what the hell the legacy packages actually do
[09:08] <dducko> DRMacIver, Nvidia?
[09:08] <NoUse> shingoki that contains the kernel module
[09:08] <DRMacIver> Yes
[09:08] <dducko> You on the machine now?
[09:09] <shingoki> NoUse, yes I was just looking at that, can't see any .ko files, is that what kernel modules should be?
[09:09] <DRMacIver> Well, it's right by me. This is a different machine though.
[09:09] <blackhat> Whats the command to start an aterm with no buttons or borders, just the box?
[09:09] <pontiacman> ati x700
[09:09] <DRMacIver> (and the IRC session is running remotely on yet another machine)
[09:09] <pontiacman> is my gpu
[09:09] <[w3bsmith] > mitza: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:09] <dducko> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:09] <NoUse> shingoki ge.euroweb.hu]  has joined #ubuntu
[09:09] <NoUse> shingoki http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-k7-nvidia-legacy&version=breezy&arch=i386
[09:10] <dducko> then change the Driver to nv instead of nvidia see if that works
[09:10] <NoUse> shingoki looks like you use the nv module, not nvidia
[09:10] <shingoki> NoUse, yes I guess, but I have no nv module either
[09:10] <NoUse> shingoki then install that package
[09:11] <shingoki> well I can't modprobe nv
[09:11] <DRMacIver> dducko: It already is nv
[09:11] <shingoki> I've got it installed
[09:11] <dducko> Oh.. crap... umm.. ok..
[09:11] <shingoki> yes the driver is nv in xorg.conf
[09:11] <DRMacIver> By the way, this worked fine under Hoary Hedgehog. It was the upgrade that broke it.
[09:11] <NoUse> shingoki what error do you get when you modprobe nv?
[09:11] <Hoxzer> I'm working on it
[09:11] <shingoki> FATAL: Module nv not found
[09:12] <NoUse> shingoki sudo /sbin/update-modules
[09:12] <dducko> Had you installed anyother rivers?
[09:12] <dducko> drivers*
[09:12] <shingoki> DRMacIver, you also have nvidia card not working?
[09:12] <mitza> hmm
[09:12] <mitza> isnt working..
[09:12] <shingoki> NoUse, still can't modprobe
[09:13] <NoUse> shingoki sorry, I'm out of ideas
[09:13] <mitza> i guess i have to dld the iso again.
[09:13] <dducko> Anyone, what s the dpkg comand to reconfigure x,
[09:13] <dducko> I think that might help DRMacIver
[09:13] <shingoki> NoUse, thanks for all the help
[09:14] <shingoki> I'll just try restarting X again
[09:14] <shingoki> brb
[09:15] <dducko> DRMacIver, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:15] <dducko> try that,
[09:15] <Rounin> Hello... Does anyone know if it's possible to get checkinstall to generate .debs with proper dependencies?
[09:15] <trappist> Rounin: no
[09:15] <Rounin> You mean  you know it isn't possible?
[09:16] <trappist> Rounin: it's not feasible for checkinstall to figure out dependencies
[09:16] <DRMacIver> dducko: It says xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed.
[09:16] <trappist> Rounin: it's probably possible to write something like checkinstall that could do that, but it wouldn't be trivial
[09:16] <dorkiaa> Why does Ubuntu ships free CD's?
[09:16] <Rounin> Ah... Would it be possible for me to edit the packages manually and do it htough?
[09:17] <trappist> Rounin: sure
[09:17] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install <packagename> it should tell you if it needs any if it does and it starts auto and you dont want it hit cntr+c than sudo apt-get clean
[09:17] <dorkiaa> it costs a lot of money to send ths CD's
[09:17] <Rounin> Ah OK... Thanks for the info
[09:18] <dorkiaa> I got them a week ago
[09:18] <dorkiaa> and I live in Israel :P
[09:18] <Knorrie> hi i'm trying to connect to a w32 machine that's using tightvnc server, but i get an error it has vnc 3.7 and the breezy client only does version 3.3
[09:19] <Knorrie> is there a vnc client in ubuntu that is able to speak 3.7?
[09:19] <bLuETeK> from where they ship them?
[09:19] <dorkiaa> I have no idea...
[09:19] <trappist> Rounin: also, lemme rephrase - it would be easy to add a feature to checkinstall to let you add dependencies with a command line option, but not automatically
[09:19] <dorkiaa> But it must be very far away from Israel
[09:19] <Rounin> Ah I see
[09:19] <gnomefreak> BluEtek: somewhere in usa im pretty sure if not its canada
[09:21] <trappist> Knorrie: what client are you using
[09:21] <Red-Sox> is there ubuntu for amd dual-core?
[09:21] <Knorrie> trappist: ii  xtightvncviewer                       1.2.9-6build1
[09:23] <trappist> Knorrie: apt-cache search vnc viewer | grep -vi server
[09:23] <dorkiaa> Red-Sox, you don't need a special ubuntu for Dual-Core.
[09:23] <Red-Sox> dorkiaa: what kind do I need?
[09:23] <Red-Sox> amd 64?
[09:23] <gnomefreak> Red-Sox, amd 32 or 64?
[09:24] <dorkiaa> yes :)
[09:24] <Red-Sox> 64
[09:24] <Red-Sox> cool
[09:24] <dorkiaa> if it's dual core, it must be 64...
[09:24] <Coweater> no
[09:24] <Knorrie> trappist: hm with vncviewer i get a connection, but a black window
[09:24] <Red-Sox> yes
[09:24] <gnomefreak> i just got ppc, amd64 adn pc 32 from them :)
[09:25] <Knorrie> trappist: perhaps i should use another server prog on the win box
[09:25] <theine> Knorrie, were you able to access the same vncserver from another machine without problems in the past?
[09:25] <dorkiaa> gnomefreak, KDE RULEZ :P
[09:25] <gnomefreak> :)
[09:25] <Knorrie> theine: no, it's a new installed machine
[09:25] <theine> Knorrie, I'd check the server...
[09:25] <Knorrie> theine: oh another machine, no
[09:26] <dorkiaa> gnomefreak, how many CD's did you get?
[09:26] <ecobuntu> has anyone ever hooked to their monitor up to a projector?  and is it difficult?
[09:26] <ecobuntu> sorry...i mean hooked up their monitor up to a project?
[09:26] <gnomefreak> it was the biggest package i think it was 25 +4 +3 32ish
[09:26] <ecobuntu> i have to give a presentation for a class and i don't want to use MS if i don't have to
[09:27] <DRMacIver> Hmm. So now that I know this is broken or not installed, is it relatively easy to reinstall?
[09:27] <dorkiaa> gnomefreak, why did you order so many CD's?
[09:27] <gnomefreak> dorkiaa,  i give them out at school and freinds
[09:28] <pavelich> this might be a dumb question, but how hard is it to create a small search engine?
[09:28] <Rounin> If you have apache you could install htdig
[09:28] <misfit_toy> pavelich, to search what?
[09:29] <dorkiaa> gnomefreak, when I ordered 15 CD's, I got only 6... Maybe it's because I livr in Israel? ;)
[09:29] <dorkiaa> *live
[09:29] <gnomefreak> dorkiaa, could be i dont know
[09:29] <ACR21> hello
[09:29] <ACR21> i requested my linux cds but never got em
[09:29] <ACR21> said it was sent to shipper
[09:30] <ACR21> must have gotten lost in the mail :(
[09:30] <misfit_toy> ACR21, mine took nearly 6 weeks
[09:30] <ACR21> i lost some other stuff too
[09:30] <linuxboy> ACR21: when ?
[09:30] <ACR21> misfit:  Hmmm
[09:30] <linuxboy> mine took like 5 months for hoary
[09:30] <ACR21> dunno
[09:30] <AMDXP> it takes awhile
[09:30] <dorkiaa> gnomefreak, I think that most of the kids that got ubuntu CD's from you, must have dump them to thr trash
[09:30] <AMDXP> it took me a long time to get my Hoary CDs
[09:31] <misfit_toy> you gotta figure they're coming out of africa I suppose, so I'm sure the mail begins by elephant or something.. ;p
[09:31] <dorkiaa> gnomefreak, Kids aren't interested in linux...
[09:31] <ACR21> hehe
[09:31] <misfit_toy> dorkiaa, mine are
[09:31] <acr21> didnt realize my nick was hard on the eyes
[09:31] <acr21> sorry
[09:32] <acr21> listen maybe you know this:
[09:32] <marlun> at ubuntu installation if I choose server-installation (or whatever it is called) what is installed then?
[09:32] <Rubin> marlun: very little, but you can install what more you need with apt
[09:32] <vaxo> aloha
[09:32] <acr21> i have 2 cable isps and dsl available here
[09:32] <vaxo> how can i do an autosort of desktop icons at kde startup?
[09:32] <vaxo> in a conf file
[09:32] <acr21> the cable provider i am on is horrible
[09:32] <acr21> tier 1 backbones are the best right?
[09:32] <dorkiaa> misfit_toy, how old are your kids?
[09:33] <acr21> i should really look for a dsl provider using tier 1
[09:33] <acr21> with low ping times
[09:33] <Monti> acr21, Who is your provider?
[09:33] <njan> acr21, I wouldn't, I'd rather have a dsl provider with tier 2 connectivity
[09:33] <acr21> monti:  RCN
[09:33] <marlun> I would like to (for learning purposes) to install so I don't get any KDE or gnome or any of the other applications, and then install everything from scratch.
[09:33] <njan> acr21, with tier 1 connectivity, unless they're *huge*, chances are they only plug into one other network, so if that network goes down, you have no internet
[09:33] <Rubin> marlun: server install is the way to go then
[09:33] <Monti> acr21, Never even heard of them. Where are you located? States? Which state?
[09:34] <marlun> Rubin, so to do that I should choose the server installation? Will I be able to install like gnome without getting all the little gnome apps?
[09:34] <acr21> monti:  I have fiber to the basement, but the problem is RCN is a small regional player and selling off assets, it is also using tier 2 on alot of connections and traceroutes and pings arent going thru
[09:34] <njan> acr21, most tier 2 providers connect to multiple tier 1s, so if you have tier 2 connectivity, chances are if level3/qwest/whoever go down, you still have connectivity.
[09:34] <Rubin> marlun: sortof, yes
[09:34] <njan> acr21, that being the case I'd move to a *better* tier2-connected provider. Sounds like they're just a crappy local ISP.
[09:34] <marlun> Rubin, sort of? =)
[09:34] <Rubin> gnome requires a lot of various libraries and things so its still a lot
[09:34] <Rubin> but its all seperated out so you can pick and choose
[09:35] <dorkiaa> "If you have to ask how to use dapper, don't." - Why?
[09:35] <marlun> Rubin, but I mean like Totem video player and Rythmbox, etc :)
[09:35] <marlun> Rubin, ok, great :)
[09:35] <Rubin> marlun: learn commands like 'apt-cache search ...' and 'apt-get install packagename' etc
[09:35] <HappyFool> dorkiaa: it's barely started being developed, and not for end-users
[09:35] <HappyFool> dorkiaa: in five months or so it'll be ready ;)
[09:35] <Monti> acr21,  If your lines are by qwest they are having a lot of problems right now. They have stopped taking new customer instilations and disconnection from what I understand until they get thier collective act together.
[09:36] <acr21> njan:  The problem with RCN isnt their last mile infrastructure as its essentially fiber to the basement and coaxial to my apartment.  its the way its run as well as the infrastructure itself.... with a major provider like ATT you would have a worldclass datacenter (those things are amazing if you seen em) while with rcn, if something goes down, it could be up 5 days later, etc...
[09:36] <Rubin> qwest has NEVER had and WILL NEVER have their 'act' together.
[09:36] <dorkiaa> HappyFool, :| Only five months?!
[09:36] <acr21> monti:  Nope...... its not qwest
[09:36] <HappyFool> dorkiaa: heh. breezy badger was just released ;)
[09:36] <dorkiaa> Breezy has just came oue!
[09:36] <dorkiaa> *out
[09:37] <acr21> njan:  they are peered thru alot of smaller guys at meetup centers
[09:37] <acr21> njan:  here is what the network looks like:
[09:37] <acr21> http://www.rcnbusinesssolutions.com/images/ip_map/East-Coast-IP-Backbone_v6.jpg
[09:37] <gnomefreak> oct. 13th :)
[09:38] <Monti> I work for Earthlink and our instilations department hasn't been able to even send through a request to their servers in a week we just keep getting the electronic reply "Qwest's servers are congested please try again later." so we have litterally hundreds of customers waiting to be installed. They can't even deprovision our service so I get angry phone calls from people all day who want to go to Qwest for lower pricing and can't switch b
[09:38] <Monti> ecause Qwest is so screwy.
[09:38] <acr21> we have 2 cables connecting us thru manhattan
[09:38] <acr21> if those 2 break, we are out of service
[09:38] <gnomefreak> brb
[09:38] <cfuerst> can anybody help me by using k3b
[09:39] <cfuerst> i try to burn *.bin image files but i can not with standard point "Burn Image File"
[09:39] <Monti> cfuerst, Sorry, never used it.
[09:39] <acr21> so while to get to the rest of the net there is alot of redundency
[09:39] <cfuerst> do you know what program i could use
[09:40] <cfuerst> to burn a *.bin image
[09:40] <Monti> Honesly, I keep windows 2000 on a seperate hard drive so I can use Nero. :)
[09:40] <cfuerst> windows .... wrong channel
[09:40] <pinucset> Monti having a windows for nero is a little stupid
[09:40] <pinucset> you've got k3b for linux
[09:41] <pinucset> and i think that there are nero version for linux ;)
[09:41] <cfuerst> i try to burn *.bin image files but i can not with standard point "Burn Image File"
[09:41] <acr21> monti as you work with earthlink
[09:41] <cfuerst> where are you from Monti?
[09:41] <Monti> My system is old and pathetic. It won't burn right with linux for some reason. It only likes Nero.
[09:41] <acr21> monti:  I have earthlink cable available here.......
[09:41] <cfuerst> where are you from Monti?
[09:41] <Monti> I'm in Asheville, NC.
[09:41] <anton__> thank god for this channel..
[09:41] <gnomefreak> from what i hear there is a program nerolinux for linux
[09:42] <lightbright> hi everyone
[09:42] <acr21> monti:  Does Earthlink use rr for routing as one of my providers is time warner
[09:42] <gnomefreak> im in apex :(
[09:42] <cfuerst> pardon but what means NC Monty
[09:42] <anton__> Does anyone know how you active a driver. I've installed ATI drivers but still can't change the refresh rate
[09:42] <r2> Rubin mate still here?
[09:42] <Monti> Earthlink cable is usually in reality Comcast or TWC/Brighthouse.
[09:42] <gnomefreak> nc=north carolina= state in usa
[09:42] <cfuerst> ok
[09:42] <acr21> monti:  So you dont use your own routing ?
[09:42] <jblack> I've put up pictures of the end of UBZ at http://gallery.linuxguru.net/ubz
[09:42] <acr21> monti:  ok
[09:43] <cfuerst> i am from austria, so i am not so well in american states
[09:43] <lightbright> when Ubuntu boots at the beginning, it goes through some stuff and mine says Synchronizing Clock with ubuntu.org FAILED!    How can I remove this as I dont want it to synchronize clock?
[09:43] <Monti> Yep, you would be on TWC's lines we just provide the GUI and the mails/spyware/anti-virus.
[09:43] <acr21> monti:  and thats all the bogus stuff to people like me :)
[09:43] <lightbright> gnomefreak: hello
[09:43] <acr21> all i care about is routing and connection
[09:43] <Rubin> r2: yeah
[09:43] <Monti> Basicaly people pay more per month so they don't have to deal with Time Warner cable and the craptacular customer service they have.
[09:43] <gnomefreak> lightbright, hello
[09:43] <anton__> Anyone know how to active an install of ATI drivers
[09:43] <acr21> monti earthlink is cheaper and better than RR so its a good deal for them
[09:44] <acr21> monti yep
[09:44] <lightbright> gnomefreak: any ideas?
[09:44] <acr21> monti:  have you ever seen datacenters before?
[09:45] <Monti> acr21,  Nope.
[09:45] <GURT> when i try to to download w32codecs from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ via synaptic I get a 403 error, anyone else?
[09:45] <gnomefreak> lightbright,  im sorry i wasnt looking what was question?
[09:45] <acr21> monti:  i was looking at a pic of the att datacenter, i was like WOW
[09:45] <lightbright> gnomefreak: when Ubuntu boots at the beginning, it goes through some stuff and mine says Synchronizing Clock with ubuntu.org FAILED!    How can I remove this as I dont want it to synchronize clock?
[09:46] <acr21> monti:  See thats the issue with RCN, they arent as big or profit hungry and they are more friendly to peer with and are more open
[09:46] <Monti> lightbright, Are you on a constant connection or do you have to connect as soon as you log in?
[09:46] <acr21> but tier 1 generally have lower ping times and awesome quality as they are fully monitored and staffed
[09:46] <gnomefreak> lightbright, im not sure sorry
[09:47] <damg> NoUse: i went through the logs again - fglrx tells me that it cannot detect my x800 :/
[09:47] <u-sun> hi, i am having problems loading in azalia drivers
[09:47] <u-sun> what
[09:47] <u-sun>  do i do
[09:47] <Monti> acr21, What are you doing that you need that low a ping?
[09:47] <njan> acr21, it doesn't look like such a bad network to me, for a small ISP.
[09:47] <njan> acr21, and yes, I have been inside a world-class datacenter - I've been in two bank datacenters in the last 5 days ;)
[09:48] <lightbright> Monti: im using a modem
[09:48] <weob> some reason cant mount a floppy
[09:48] <lightbright> Monti: and im not conntected to internet as Ubuntu loads so I want to remove the line that tells it to synchrnoze clock during boot!  any ideas?
[09:48] <weob> i tried mount /dev/floppy0 - which is what is in the fstab - does nothing
[09:49] <Monti> lightbright, Oh, then don't worry about it! As soon as you connect it auto-syncrenizes as soon as you connect.
[09:49] <acr21> njan you seem like you really know your stuff
[09:49] <lightbright> Monti: is it possible to see where everyrhing is stored what Ubuntu loads during boot?
[09:49] <u-sun> anyone know how to install ffmpeg2theora?
[09:49] <njan> acr21, *shrug*
[09:49] <lightbright> Monti: you know when you first boot Ubuntu, it goes through loading stuff?
[09:50] <njan> acr21, I try hard, if that counts :P
[09:50] <DShepherd> lightbright: I have tried that too...no luck yet.... just press Crlt + C when the command comes up
[09:50] <Monti> lightbright, Yep. I'm not sure how to tweek that honestly.
[09:50] <Seveas> GURT, you won't even get a 403 now
[09:50] <Seveas> server is temp. out
[09:50] <weob> so anyone know if breezy anywhere close to being called final
[09:50] <Seveas> weob, breezy has been released a month ago...
[09:50] <DShepherd> weob: ? huh
[09:50] <DShepherd> ?
[09:50] <weob> haha ok
[09:50] <gnomefreak> weob breezy has been final for a month now
[09:51] <weob> well why do they have different versions -
[09:51] <weob> wouldnt the latest be considered more beta
[09:51] <DShepherd> weob: ??huh?
[09:51] <Seveas> no
[09:51] <gnomefreak> just like all other linux distros they have other versions
[09:51] <lightbright> Monti: ok ty anyway! you new to Ubuntu too like me?
[09:51] <acr21> njan:  rcn's issue is its in financially bad shape and run poor, i am getting 100ms+ ping times to places, websites aint connecting right, etc.... i was under the impression that tier1s were more pricey but better quality
[09:51] <weob> but can anyone tell me why i cant mount my floppy?
[09:52] <lightbright> DShepherd: you mean as soon as Ubuntu is loading and booting, press Crlt + C when I see synchronizing clock?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> lightbright,  i dont think you can set that to not check but if you want have a look in the adjust clock area see if it gives you a choice
[09:52] <acr21> njan:  The West coast network of RCN is being shut down due to financial issues... chicago will be next, then comes the northeastern corridor markets <grin>
[09:52] <DShepherd> lightbright: yup
[09:52] <lightbright> gnomefreak:  you know when you first boot Ubuntu, it goes through loading stuff?
[09:52] <njan> acr21, 'tiers' have more to do with where the plugin goes, not the quality of it - you can buy different qualities of bandwidth from level3 or el-cheapo ISP.
[09:52] <slate> does anybody use thunderbird here?
[09:52] <Monti> lightbright,  Yep, I'be been mostly windoze free for about a week. I'm still working on the newbie problems like how to make the animated icons next to the mouse stop bouncing up and down when I open a program. *lol*
[09:52] <lightbright> DShepherd: what will press Crlt + C do?
[09:52] <njan> acr21, sounds like a great time to move to me.
[09:52] <slate> I cannot set the pop3 password in thunderbird.
[09:53] <acr21> njan you are an isp ? :)
[09:53] <lightbright> Monti: lol
[09:53] <weob> dont like bouncy things?
[09:53] <DShepherd> lightbright: it prevents a command from continuing
[09:53] <lightbright> weob: only bouncy babies
[09:53] <NoUse> slate what error do you get?
[09:53] <njan> acr21, me? No, I'm an IT guy :P
[09:53] <weob> just too bad they the are not bright blinking bouncing things
[09:53] <lightbright> DShepherd: thats not my aim, my aim is to totally stop it loading all together!
[09:54] <slate> NoUse, I dont know where to put the damn password
[09:54] <acr21> njan i see... well the plugins are alot of meetup points throughout the northeastern corridor
[09:54] <lightbright> so nobody has worked out how to edit that list of bootime startup?
[09:54] <NoUse> slate tools -> account settings
[09:54] <acr21> njan:  as you can see on that map
[09:54] <Monti> It leaves a trail of little ghost icons when I move my mouse. It's annoying. It's not like I am going to stop using my system just because it is busy and using my system stresses its resources. That would be logical and wise.
[09:54] <DShepherd> lightbright: and I said I have tried it already...and I have no luck yet.
[09:54] <rem_> lightbright its in /etc/rc.*
[09:54] <lightbright> DShepherd: if you work it out, pls let me know
[09:54] <DShepherd> lightbright: ok will do
[09:54] <rem_> S means start and k kill in front of the prog
[09:54] <slate> NoUse, I dont have any account settings menu in tools
[09:54] <lightbright> DShepherd: rem_ lightbright its in /etc/rc.*
[09:55] <rem_> i think it loads rc2.d by default
[09:55] <acr21> njan:  Private, public and transit interconnections
[09:55] <lightbright> rem_: ok ill have a loomk now
[09:55] <rem_> look it up in ure grub file otherwise ..
[09:55] <NoUse> slate when you click "get mail" you should be prompted for a password with the option to save it
[09:55] <DShepherd> lightbright: here's the link that they have on help.ubuntu.com. This doesnt work for me...but hey...give it a go.-- > http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2524630
[09:55] <weob> can one do a fsck on a floppy -
[09:56] <weob> its too bad my mac doesnt have a floppy or i would have had this done a while ago
[09:56] <lightbright> rem_: I cant find a file called  /etc/rc.*?  where exactly is it?
[09:56] <rem_> /etc/rc2.d
[09:56] <lightbright> rem_: ok brb
[09:56] <acr21> njan:  so with tier1 where does the plugin go? :-)
[09:56] <slate> NoUse, I can enter the master password.
[09:56] <rem_> i puit* cze i dont know which one u load..it is 2 by default i think ..
[09:56] <rem_> in ubuntu
[09:57] <Red-Sox_snack> what is this, i get it after i downloaded the e17 cvs: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4674
[09:57] <NoUse> slate it should prompt you for your POP password when you check your mail and it should let you save it
[09:57] <lightbright> rem_: which file in /etc/rc2.d is the one that loads stuff at bootime?
[09:58] <DRMacIver> Ooh.
[09:58] <DRMacIver> Fixed it. :)
[09:58] <rem_> ull see all the stuff thats loaded i that file ..
[09:58] <slate> NoUse, I have migrated my old thunderbird directory from another linux distrib
[09:58] <lightbright> DRMacIver: well done! :)
[09:58] <DRMacIver> dducko: Thanks for your help. It set me on the right track.
[09:58] <slate> NoUse, by copying the directory
[09:58] <weob> floppys dont work any more on linux?
[09:58] <NoUse> slate do you have the appropriate accounts set up?
[09:58] <DRMacIver> Just rebooting now to make sure the fix holds... *cross fingers*
[09:58] <lightbright> rem_: which file exactly?  there are 20 files in that folder
[09:58] <rem_> time server should be something with ntp
[09:58] <rem_> i guess
[09:58] <lightbright> weob: heh
[09:58] <slate> NoUse, On another linux distrib years ago.
[09:59] <gnomefreak> what is the gedit command for grub i thought it was gedit /boot/grub/grub.conf
[09:59] <NoUse> slate but are they set up on this machine?
[09:59] <rem_> make a backup of your /etc/rc2.d file before you change anything in case ..
[09:59] <weob> i really need it - i dont want to use it but its necessary
[09:59] <orbx> What do i change in the apache httpd to enable php?
[09:59] <Janbanan> Is it possible to change the fonts to ms true type in firefox so that it looks more like explorer?
[09:59] <rem_> then put a "k" in front of it or remove  it .
[09:59] <Monti> Is there a way to turn off KDE crash manager? Every time I close a .avi it says there is a crash when its really just closing the dang file.
[09:59] <slate> NoUse, I have copyed the thunderbird directory from my old home
[09:59] <blackhat> YOu know how there is Winamp 5 for windows all transparency options etc, is there anything like this for linux besides XMMS and beep-media-player (which dont have these options).
[09:59] <slate> NoUse, and is working
[10:00] <slate> NoUse, but I cannot set up new account.
[10:00] <Malin> [OT]  anyone speaking spanish here?
[10:00] <NoUse> slate then it doesn't seem like it's working does it?
[10:00] <lightbright> rem_: so you mean every file that is in /etc/rc2.d is loaded at that bootime I refer to?
[10:00] <DRMacIver> Woohoo. The fix did indeed hold.
[10:00] <stazich> is nayone running ubuntuPPC on iMac? please msg me, i have a question...
[10:00] <stazich> is anyone running ubuntuPPC on iMac? please msg me, i have a question...
[10:00] <gnomefreak> !es
[10:00] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:00] <rem_> everyone that start with a "S" yea
[10:00] <NoUse> slate File -> New -> Account?
[10:00] <slate> NoUse, it is working for my allready set up accounts.
[10:00] <lightbright> rem_: ok so I rename it replacing the S with a T?
[10:01] <slate> NoUse, Yes I made this, but I cannot set the pop3 password. as I said
[10:01] <Coweater> stazich: ask it
[10:01] <DRMacIver> For anyone who cares, the trick was to run dpkg --configure -a and let it run
[10:01] <weob> how old is the imac -
[10:01] <DRMacIver> Sorted out the broken configurations and it all worked fine afterwards.
[10:01] <DRMacIver> Bye
[10:01] <NoUse> slate and as I said, after you set up the account, you will be prompted for the password the first time you check your mail
[10:01] <slate> NoUse, But it doesnt.
[10:01] <DShepherd> lightbright: which file is it?
[10:01] <weob> what is the issue?
[10:01] <NoUse> slate what does it say?
[10:02] <rem_> you can check in your /etc/inittab file which one is used at startup by default it seems to be rc2.d in ubuntu
[10:02] <yt173> hi
[10:02] <slate> NoUse, nothing. its a gmail account.
[10:02] <rem_> S with a K ..or i think i would just remove it ..
[10:02] <lightbright> DShepherd: no idea!  do you know?
[10:02] <Mestapheles> hi
[10:02] <slate> NoUse, and I have allowed pop3 on gmail.
[10:02] <DShepherd> lightbright: nope
[10:02] <gnomefreak> ok why does "sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.conf" give me a blank file?
[10:02] <lightbright> DShepherd: im still looking
[10:02] <lokm> heeeeelp me pleaseee.... I've problem with SIGSEGV... it coleses me aplication... help me... is there some way to stop it?
[10:02] <NoUse> slate I would delete your .thunderbird directory or back it up and start over, something is messed up
[10:02] <lightbright> DShepherd: if you find it let me know ;)
[10:02] <lokm> closes*
[10:02] <DShepherd> lightbright: yup, me too
[10:03] <lightbright> DShepherd: you want to remove that synchronixing clock failed too?
[10:03] <Mestapheles> have there been speed improvements in the current release?
[10:03] <DShepherd> lightbright: like from last year!
[10:03] <gnomefreak> Mestapheles, mine runs fine
[10:03] <rem_> gnomefreak..u mean the "menu.lst" file ?
[10:03] <luke_> what do you guys use to extract multiple rar files?
[10:03] <gnomefreak> yeah
[10:03] <slate> NoUse, do you say I shuld delete all my emails?
[10:03] <lightbright> DShepherd: hehe, well lets keep looking and hope rem has guided us to the right place :)
[10:03] <anton__> Does anyone else have trouble installing ATI's latest graphics drivers
[10:03] <NoUse> slate I said or back them up
[10:03] <crimsun> luke_: unrar-nonfree
[10:04] <gnomefreak> /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[10:04] <Coweater> stazich: i'm not on the mac, please don't version me, ask the question already
[10:04] <luke_> nonfree eh? i'll investigate. thanks
[10:04] <Mestapheles> last time I installed I used reiser and it ran better on a 233 mhz comp, a server install with miminal wm
[10:04] <NoUse> slate you can copy the emails seperately after setting up accounts
[10:04] <soundray> I'm having trouble booting the amd64 install CD. It hangs after "Starting system log daemon: syslogd, klogd." No error messages are in evidence. Pls help
[10:04] <Mestapheles> but that was hoary
[10:04] <rem_> light i know the startup files are there...but what to do exactly with them im not sure..i would simply remove the one you dont want ...
[10:04] <weob> excellent i fixed my floppy - take that ! hahahaa
[10:05] <stazich> Coweater, what sound server are you running? i have problem getting apps like mplayer and XMMS to playback sound, but Totem does it fine... mplayer tells me i am missing /dev/dsp
[10:05] <lightbright> DShepherd: we need to use grep to search all files for "clock"
[10:05] <rem_> yea gfreak
[10:05] <rem_> good luck...be back later ..
[10:05] <DShepherd> lightbright:
[10:05] <gnomefreak> rem_, ty sir
[10:05] <lightbright> rem_: yeah but I cant see by filename which one tries to synchrnoze clock
[10:05] <lightbright> DShepherd: ?
[10:05] <rem_> google it ..
[10:05] <anton__> aaah! My eyes, can't take 60hz! I need to get the drivers working
[10:05] <anton__> anyone?
[10:06] <lightbright> anton__: at least 85Hz
[10:06] <anton__> ati graphics, latest
[10:06] <TURRICAN> hi to allz!
[10:06] <lokm> guys help me pls... how to stop SIGSEGV???
[10:06] <lightbright> DShepherd: any luck?
[10:06] <rem_> my guess would be something with "ntp" .
[10:06] <anton__> lightbright: yes, but my ati drivers doesn't work
[10:06] <rem_> lasterz ..
[10:06] <lightbright> rem_: none of the files contain ntp
[10:06] <anton__> or I just don't know how to change it
[10:06] <DShepherd> lightbright:
[10:06] <DShepherd> lightbright: nope
[10:07] <ubuntu> hi
[10:07] <anton__> I tried the standard place ("screen resolutions")
[10:07] <lightbright> anton__: sdo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:07] <lightbright> anton__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:07] <Red-Sox> IRC isnt letting me join any other channels!
[10:07] <lightbright> rem_: i dont think this is the place
[10:07] <slate> NoUse, how can I backup my mails and restore them? Is this supported in thunderbird?
[10:07] <rem_> maybe its a cron job then ...
[10:07] <Ethan> Hi, how do I install flash ? there is no flashplugin-nonfree .....
[10:07] <SS2> Red-Sox: /join #*anychannel*
[10:07] <Coweater> stazich: esd is running although i've not specifically set anything to use it, i've not tried mplayer, but xmms seems to be working
[10:08] <lightbright> rem_: bad guess :P
[10:08] <NoUse> slate google around but basically backup .thunderbird, setup new accounts in thunderbird and then find the mail files and copy them over
[10:08] <rem_> usually crontab -e but i think in ubuntu its /etc/crontab
[10:08] <anton__> ligthbright: wohoo, somethings happening, let's see where this leads. Thx
[10:08] <soundray> Ethan, there is. You need to enable multiverse.
[10:08] <lightbright> rem_: I did a  grep -i -w clock *
[10:08] <lightbright>   and it found nothing
[10:08] <nalioth> rem_: ubuntu is linux. crontab -e is correct
[10:08] <rem_> did you google your question ?
[10:09] <lightbright> rem_:  you guided us to the wroing place dude
[10:09] <rem_> yea...but there are several crons ..
[10:09] <lightbright> rem_: ill try google
[10:09] <Ethan> soundray, I did have enable all repository....
[10:09] <lightbright> rem_: whats a cron?
[10:09] <lightbright> !cron
[10:09] <slate> NoUse, exactly that is what I have done when I installed ubuntu. I backed up .thunderbird directory and copyed into my new home.
[10:09] <ubotu> lightbright: Are you smoking crack?
[10:09] <rem_> tasks that are run automatically ..
[10:09] <lightbright> ubotu: welcome to my ignore list for being an idiot who takes drugs for depression and who attacks everyone every day
[10:09] <ubotu> lightbright: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[10:10] <bipolar> well... it took over two hours, but I now have the newest ATI drivers AND xinerama working
[10:10] <anton__> Lightbright: Do you know why it says that my Radeon is plugged in the PCI port? shouldn't I change that to agp 0: 0; 1 or something?
[10:10] <soundray> Ethan, well, I can see it here, it's in multiverse/web.
[10:10] <orbx> does anyone know how to set up php with an apache server?
[10:10] <anton__> bipolar: what's xinerama?
[10:10] <lightbright> anton__: sorry I dont know im new to Ubuntu
[10:10] <bipolar> anton__, Dual head with one desktop
[10:10] <blueblood> Hey, if I install Ubuntu with the 'server' param, what do I need then to get X running with gnome? I want a real stripped install so I can install just the stuff I want..
[10:10] <rem_> but by standard in linux distros the starup files are in /etc/rc.* .
[10:10] <anton__> ok, thx a bunch anyways.. this lead to something atlesat
[10:10] <mae> is there any app i can use to draw pictures while chatting with someone?
[10:10] <wx9j> installing gnome sounds will cause synaptic to remove ubuntu desktop and the gdm, anyone know why ???
[10:10] <rthomas> can someone point me to instructions on how to upgrade from hedgehog to badger? Thanks!
[10:10] <mae> like kpaint or some simple app
[10:10] <Ethan> soundray, can't see it....
[10:10] <anton__> bipolar: how did you get the drivers to work?
[10:11] <mae> but both ends see it
[10:11] <lightbright> DShepherd: i cant find it yet, you have any luck?
[10:11] <anton__> bipolar: do you have the 64 edition too?
[10:11] <bipolar> anton__, no 64bit, no
[10:11] <soundray> Ethan, apt-get update?
[10:11] <gnomefreak> anyone can i add this to grub menu in another os to beable to boot too both os?
[10:11] <DShepherd> lightbright: go to system -> Admin -> Services and you will see the "clock......blah". Unchecking that should work..but it doesnt for me
[10:11] <gnomefreak> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4675
[10:11] <lightbright> anton__: I had to manually change the config file for my video card
[10:12] <anton__> bipolar: ok, what did you do to get it working?
[10:12] <rem_> unless it uses grub the syntax would be different probably gfreak ..
[10:12] <soundray> Install boots as far as "Starting system log daemon: syslogd, klogd" here, then hangs. Any hints?
[10:12] <anton__> lightbright: I've been trying that too
[10:12] <lightbright> DShepherd: yeah mine is already unselected anyway
[10:12] <DShepherd> Does anyone know where the services listed at System -> Admin -> Services are stored on the filessytem?
[10:12] <bipolar> anton__, had to ditch the version that came with ubuntu, download the installer from ATI. then run fglrxconfig to generate a xorg.conf file. then run aticonfig to modify it to use the correct resolution.
[10:12] <lightbright> anton__: do you have the nuimbers for your card ?
[10:12] <DShepherd> lightbright: yup, I think its a bug. There must be a workaround though.
[10:13] <luke_> crimsun: is there a way to get unrar-nonfree via apt-get?
[10:13] <crimsun> !info unrar-nonfree
[10:13] <lightbright> DShepherd: yeah lets keep looking, if there is a solution we will find it
[10:13] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[10:14] <anton__> lightbright: nuinumbers?
[10:14] <anton__> lightbright: how do you get to adress a user like that? anton__:? Manually
[10:14] <paxmaster> i just install opera and when i try to run n the command line it give and ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[10:15] <paxmaster> what should I do
[10:15] <Knowerrors> Anybody here use Superkaramba?
[10:16] <lightbright> anton__: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:16] <lightbright> anton__: do you have your supported video card horizontal rates?
[10:17] <lightbright> anton__: what is your cards HorizSync?
[10:17] <anton__> lightbright: it should.. you mean like the normal hz? 60, 70, 75 etc.?
[10:17] <lightbright> anton__: what is your cards HorizSync and VertRefresh?
[10:17] <lightbright> anton__: if you know these I can help you
[10:17] <anton__> lightbright: the max is at 120hz I think.. I don't know about vertical refresh, that's new to me
[10:17] <weob> i am confused
[10:17] <lightbright> anton__: for example mine is HorizSync	30-54
[10:18] <weob> fsck check out alright - but i get an error when i try to use the floppy
[10:18] <rem_> light check for /etc/rcS.d/S51ntpdate or a ntpd in your /etc/rc2.d file ..
[10:18] <anton__> lightbright: crap.I've then done totally wrong desitions here
[10:18] <lightbright> anton__: without that I cant help you sporry!  find out the exact values
[10:18] <bipolar> if only I could stretch my desktop over X displays attached to the network
[10:18] <bipolar> that would rule
[10:18] <rem_> ntpd is the time synchro
[10:18] <lightbright> anton__: im talking about your monsitor btw
[10:18] <DShepherd> anton__: what are you trying to do?
[10:18] <lightbright> anton__: what is your monitor HorizSync and VertRefresh?
[10:19] <lightbright> DShepherd: i cvant find it
[10:19] <anton__> DShepard: trying to install the latest ATI drivers.. or any ATI drivers on 64 edition. never done it in Linux before
[10:19] <DShepherd> !ati
[10:19] <ubotu> methinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[10:19] <anton__> lightbright: i'm trying to find out just a sec
[10:19] <lightbright> anton__: sdo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:19] <DShepherd> !tell anton__ about ati
[10:20] <lightbright> anton__: try what DShepherd told you
[10:20] <resuDaed> hi, I am trying to build mplayer (using instructions for a debian system)
[10:21] <resuDaed> they only difference (ie problem I am having) is when I go to build the deb
[10:21] <nickrud> resuDaed, why are you trying to build it, instead of using the ones in the multiverse repository?
[10:21] <cralost> hello to all
[10:21] <paxmaster> i just install opera and when i try to run n the command line it give and ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[10:21] <resuDaed> according to the instructions, I use DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="...." fakeroot debian/rules binary
[10:21] <tumi> tms@ubuntu:~$ glxinfo|grep direct
[10:21] <tumi> direct rendering: No
[10:21] <tumi> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:21] <cralost> i have a problem with audacity
[10:22] <rndinit0> i was wondering about something: how would I best update 5 ubuntu machines? without re-downloading all the packages on each machine
[10:22] <nickrud> paxmaster, it looks like you need to either get java, or tell opera where your java is.
[10:22] <tumi> amd64 - ati radeon- installed fglrx drivers, how do I enable direct rendering?
[10:22] <resuDaed> what is the ubuntu equivielent to the cammand I just meantioned?
[10:22] <anton__> DShepard: ok, done it
[10:22] <tumi> it was as easy as opengl-update ati on gentoo
[10:22] <rem_> light: less /usr/share/doc/ntpdate/README.Debian
[10:22] <anton__> DShepard: what now?
[10:22] <soundray> resuDaed, it's the same.
[10:22] <DShepherd> lightbright: well ctrl+c works now
[10:22] <nickrud> resuDaed, it is identical, ubuntu is debian at that level
[10:23] <dreadnought> ok nickrud im back
[10:23] <DShepherd> anton__: you read and did what the link told you
[10:23] <nickrud> dreadnought, hi
[10:23] <soundray> Hang on boot - how do I find out what's wrong?
[10:23] <DShepherd> lightbright: I guess that will have to do for now....till they have a fix that works
[10:23] <dreadnought> ok u ready
[10:23] <anton__> DShepard: ah, sorry, so many windows open. My head is exploding..
[10:23] <resuDaed> I get: /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: debian/rules: No such file or directory
[10:23] <DShepherd> oh ok.
[10:24] <nickrud> it's java time, eh?
[10:24] <rem_> suond if you can press ALT + 2 then login and type dmesg
[10:24] <DShepherd> anton__: want to send the link again?
[10:24] <rem_> basically check the logs
[10:24] <soundray> resuDaed, you're probably not in the build directory.
[10:24] <rem_> and reboot in a debug mode ..
[10:24] <dooglus> rndinit0: update one of the machines.  then copy the contents of /etc/cache/apt/archives onto the other 4 machines and update them.  the other 4 will use the packages you copied rather than re-downloading them
[10:25] <resuDaed> soundray : now I feel *very* stupid ... been a long day
[10:25] <lightbright> DShepherd: I ticked the clock on services to see what happens next time I boot :)  Maybe its backwards :P
[10:25] <resuDaed> thanks guys
[10:25] <paxmaster> how would tell opera where java is
[10:25] <DShepherd> lightbright: ahhhh!!! thats an idea
[10:25] <lightbright> DShepherd: what does the message say exactly?  Im going to use grep to search the whole /etc to locate it
[10:25] <dooglus> rndinit0: do a "sudo apt-get clean" on the 1st machine before upgrading it to limit the amount of junk in the cache folder
[10:25] <Ethan> soundray, doesn't help....
[10:25] <lightbright> DShepherd: worth a try :)  strange things happen :P
[10:25] <DShepherd> lightbright: when booting?
[10:26] <lightbright> DShepherd: yeah, synchronizing clock ubuntu.org ??
[10:26] <anton__> DShepard: no, I got it.. didn't see the ubotu chatwindow popup
[10:26] <lightbright> DShepherd: if you could tell me I can use grep to search the whole /etc
[10:26] <DShepherd> anton__:
[10:26] <DShepherd> anton__: ok
[10:26] <DShepherd> lightbright: I'm not sure myself
[10:26] <soundray> Ethan, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl pls
[10:26] <lightbright> DShepherd: from memory it ends with ubunto.org . agree?
[10:27] <DShepherd> lightbright: ntp.ubuntu.org it think
[10:27] <lightbright> Ethan: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d2325 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:27] <lightbright> Ethan: type that and it will replace your sources.list with the latest for Breeze
[10:28] <lightbright> DShepherd: ok let me search for  ntp.ubuntu.org
[10:28] <soundray> Can someone help me diagnose a hang at boot please?
[10:28] <dooglus> lightbright: look at /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[10:28] <Ethan> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4676
[10:29] <lightbright> dooglus: you know when ubvuntu loads. it says synchronizing clock ubuntu.,org failed?
[10:29] <paxmaster> how would tell opera where java is
[10:29] <dooglus> lightbright: yes
[10:29] <Ethan> I get a lot of errors now with your command.....
[10:29] <dooglus> lightbright: that's /etc/init.d/ntpdate running
[10:29] <andril> hello all
[10:29] <DShepherd> lightbright: Synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org <-- I think that is it
[10:30] <andril> I am having issues with "local.conf"
[10:30] <slate> NoUse, to your information
[10:30] <felon> hi
[10:30] <slate> NoUse, password manager is in edit/preferences/advanced/saved passwords
[10:30] <soundray> Ethan, after lightbright's recommendation you have to do update again.
[10:31] <felon> When  i go to places ---> network servers it asks for a username and password, how do i found it out?
[10:31] <lightbright> DShepherd: thats odd!  I searched the whole /etc for ntp.ubuntu.org and it found it not even once
[10:31] <DShepherd> you didnt see my last post
[10:31] <Ethan> soundray, er... yes that is logical... sorry I have lost my mind....
[10:31] <lightbright> Ethan: yeah after you typed the command I gave you, type sudo aptitude update
[10:31] <DShepherd> lightbright: you didnt see my last post
[10:32] <luke_> crimsun: sorry, i don't really understand how to add multiverse/utils to source.list. i already have the multiverse stuff uncommented (breezy)
[10:32] <DShepherd> lightbright: "Synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org" <-- I think that is it
[10:32] <Ethan> apt-get update, no?
[10:32] <lightbright> DShepherd: ok let me search for that brb
[10:32] <Ethan> what is the diff with aptitude update?
[10:33] <lightbright> DShepherd: you can search /etc too if you want by typing in /etc  this command:  grep --colour -r -i -w  "
[10:33] <lightbright> Synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org" *
[10:33] <lightbright> DShepherd: grep --colour -r -i -w  "Synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org" *
[10:34] <Ethan> I found the plugin :D
[10:34] <lightbright> DShepherd: that command searched the whole /etc and directories under it for Synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org
[10:34] <SirKillalot> how can I found out when a package was installed on my system?
[10:34] <DShepherd> lightbright: yeah I will do that later though...I have to leave....love calls :D
[10:34] <lightbright> Ethan: Use aptitude as it seems more reliable storing info on installs in case you ever want to remove something in the future
[10:34] <DShepherd> :-D
[10:34] <lightbright> DShepherd: lol ;)
[10:35] <SirKillalot> how can I found out when a package was installed on my system?
[10:35] <Knowerrors> Will Skippy work with kde?
[10:35] <Fred> hey, is there a command i can type in ssh to reverse-lookup an IP to a hostname?
[10:35] <lightbright> dooglus: Can I safely remove the file called: /etc/init.d/ntpdate ?
[10:36] <trappist> Fred: in ssh?
[10:37] <Fred> trappist, in bash... i just happen to be using ssh at the moment
[10:37] <gleesond> I just got a new dvd drive but ubuntu isn't recognizing it. is there something I have to do to mount it or something... I'm pritty new at this
[10:38] <soundray> Fred host or dig, I forget which one.
[10:38] <Fred> thanks soundray :)
[10:38] <Seveas> host
[10:38] <Fred> host seems to work :D
[10:38] <Seveas> dig is for name->ip
[10:38] <Fred> thnx :)
[10:38] <felon> how do i check what my workgroup name is?
[10:38] <mike__> is there some way to make rhythmbox (or maybe gstreamer) properly display cp1251 id3 tags? without converting tags to utf?
[10:38] <lightbright> Seveas: hello :)
[10:38] <Ethan> soundray lightbright it is working thanks
[10:39] <lightbright> Ethan: great, happy to help
[10:39] <dle> Hello. I'm wondering if anyone knows what package I need in order to get k3b to support the use of mp3s to an audio CD?
[10:39] <witless> hello.  there are two users here, and we have separate X desktops running concurrently on the same workstation.  we hot-key switch to our desktop to use the machine.  when i plug in a portable media player, the permissions to the device are given to the other user instead of me.  is there some way to fix this?
[10:39] <lightbright> dle: use gnomebaker
[10:39] <soundray> Now if only I could boot my install...
[10:39] <trappist> !tell dle about mp3
[10:39] <benplaut> is there a way to batch-convert .doc to .odt? ie, all the ones in a folder
[10:39] <trappist> benplaut: what is .odt
[10:39] <Seveas> witless, sounds like a bug to me, you should file it at bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[10:40] <lightbright> Seveas: during boot I get a message that says: "Synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org" Failed!  How can I stop my system checking the clock?
[10:40] <dle> lightbright - ah.... k3b-mp3 mayhaps. duh. :)
[10:40] <benplaut> trappist: default format of OO.o
[10:40] <Seveas> lightbright, a hammer will help ;)
[10:40] <lightbright> Seveas: hehe;)  ok
[10:40] <Seveas> lightbright, sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove
[10:40] <lightbright> Seveas: cool, ill try that
[10:40] <Muldy> is it just me or does the 'use isp nameservers' setting on the system admin networking menu not work properly for dialup connections
[10:40] <trappist> benplaut: I've seen OOo macros to do stuff like that, but it was no fun to look at
[10:40] <lightbright> Seveas: so I just type: "sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove" ?
[10:41] <benplaut> k
[10:41] <elliotf> hello all.  I am having an issue with the calendar associated with the gnome clock applet displaying weeks beginning with sunday..  I have tried changing evolution's preferences and restarting the applet, but that does not work.  I do not see any other preferences associated with it..  any help?
[10:41] <Red-Sox> hello, xmms does not play
[10:41] <Muldy> also the modem speaker settings are not working
[10:41] <Seveas> lightbright, yeah
[10:41] <Muldy> 'volume off' still makes it project dialing
[10:41] <Seveas> Red-Sox: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[10:42] <lightbright> Seveas: excellent :)  been trying to fix that for hours ;)  ty
[10:42] <elliotf> Seveas:  why not alsa?
[10:42] <trappist> Red-Sox: or get a card that does hardware mixing
[10:42] <witless> Seveas: is there some way the system can tell which user just plugged in the device?  maybe detect which X session is active?
[10:42] <Red-Sox> Seveas: and how is that done?
[10:42] <elliotf> Red-Sox:  go to preferences..
[10:42] <trappist> elliotf: alsa doesn't handle multiple concurrent audio streams unless your sound card does, in the hardware
[10:42] <Red-Sox> okay
[10:43] <elliotf> Red-Sox:  right click, go to options..  then preferences...
[10:43] <peter__> helo
[10:43] <elliotf> Red-Sox:  then select "output plugin", and choose "eSound"
[10:43] <peter__> i have a problem with my scaner
[10:43] <elliotf> seveas:  sorry, then..  I came in late.
[10:43] <Red-Sox> elliotf: go?
[10:43] <elliotf> Seveas:  breezy's Alsa is configured very nicely, it does all my mixing for me.
[10:44] <peter__> he is connected to the parralel port
[10:44] <trappist> elliotf: what kind of sound card do you have
[10:44] <elliotf> Red-Sox:  go = select..  is that your confusion?
[10:44] <peter__> and xsane can't find him
[10:44] <peter__> any answer's??
[10:44] <Fred> Seveas, host stopped working O.o it looked up one IP, and now just gives a jumbled up host for any other IPs i give it :\
[10:44] <Red-Sox> elliotf: select what, where?
[10:44] <elliotf> trappist:  intel ich whatever
[10:44] <trappist> peter__: is your scanner supported by sane?
[10:44] <elliotf> Red-Sox:  right click on XMMS
[10:44] <Red-Sox> ok
[10:45] <peter__> medion md9890
[10:45] <lightbright> Seveas: is that synchronixing clock placed there because I chose the Clock during install of Ubuntu?
[10:45] <elliotf> Red-Sox:  select "Options" from the menu that pops up, then go to "Preferences", then go to "Audio I/O Plugins, then go to "Output Plugin"
[10:45] <bhearsum> i'm trying to install vim-gtk on Hoary but it depends on a different version of vim than is provided
[10:45] <bhearsum> how do i fix this without breaking my system?
[10:45] <elliotf> Red-Sox:  did you find it?  Does it work for you?
[10:45] <gfish> can i have some help on installing ubuntu
[10:45] <trappist> bhearsum: that's a nightmare on every distro I've tried
[10:45] <bhearsum> trappist: its fine on Breezy
[10:46] <bhearsum> and on Debian Stable
[10:46] <trappist> bhearsum: I had the same issue on breezy and several debian releases.  and mandrake.
[10:46] <trappist> maybe it's just me :)
[10:46] <peter__> i think this is the same model as mustek 1200cp
[10:46] <Red-Sox> ah, thx
[10:46] <gfish> ok
[10:46] <orbx> hello gfish
[10:46] <bhearsum> ha
[10:46] <gfish> sam
[10:46] <bhearsum> vim-gnome is installable
[10:46] <elliotf> So no one has an idea why gnome's calendar chooses to start weeks with Monday, rather than Sunday?
[10:46] <bhearsum> lovely
[10:46] <orbx> Yes gfish?
[10:46] <trappist> bhearsum: wait nm I'm thinking of kvim
[10:46] <gfish> hello
[10:47] <gfish> can i have some helo
[10:47] <bhearsum> thanks
[10:47] <gfish> *help
[10:47] <orbx> gfish: yea what with?
[10:47] <elliotf> gfish: what is your question?
[10:47] <gfish> ok
[10:47] <peter__> any idea with this scaner?
[10:47] <gfish> i have a 64 bit pentium which version do i use
[10:47] <dseomn> how do I disable a gtk immodule for one application once (not every time I run it)? Is there an environment variable or something?
[10:47] <trappist> elliotf: see if you can find out if it's specific to that applet, or to gnome, or if maybe there's some environment variable it respects
[10:47] <elliotf> peter__:  how is the scanner connected?
[10:48] <peter__> parallel port
[10:48] <elliotf> peter__:  what have you tried so far?
[10:48] <orbx> since no one has answered your question gfish, i would suggest just getting the amd 64 package
[10:48] <elliotf> trappist:  yeah, I just can't find anything..  I'll look through gconf.
[10:48] <gfish> can i get some help
[10:49] <peter__> sane-find-scanner
[10:49] <gfish> anyone else
[10:49] <peter__> xsane
[10:49] <gleesond> can anyone point me in the right direction to getting my new dvd drive working? I have it as a slave ide device.
[10:49] <gfish> thanks orbx
[10:49] <elliotf> gfish:  you can use i386 if you want..
[10:49] <gleesond> but I cant access it
[10:49] <peter__> tried to scan with gimp
[10:49] <holycow> *whew*
[10:49] <elliotf> gfish:  or you can use amd64
[10:49] <holycow> yet another ubuntu desktop pilot project installed
[10:49] <holycow> yey!
[10:49] <gfish> yeah but i used that and it screwed up on install i386
[10:49] <peter__>  # Not checking for parallel port scanners.
[10:49] <peter__> 
[10:49] <Fred> seveas, the host thing stopped working, now just gives me some wrong info for any other IPs i give it :(
[10:50] <peter__> why sane find scanner does write this
[10:50] <orbx> elliotf , gfish: i think its best to try AMD 64 if it messed up last time
[10:50] <Knowerrors> Hey all, was viewing a jpg from an email in Firefox, in the default screen viewer, now I have a "Pan Icon" window that won't go away, even though the image viewer is closed, anybody know what this is and how to close it?
[10:50] <TURRICAN> ..
[10:50] <peter__> why he don't scan parallel port's?
[10:50] <gfish> i also need some help partitioning
[10:50] <gleesond> it seems as though the computer is recognizing it but I cat access the files
[10:50] <trappist> peter__: sane-fine-scanner -p
[10:50] <elliotf> gfish:  what error did it give?
[10:50] <orbx> gfish: just install over the whole HD, screw windows BURN IT
[10:50] <gfish> igot to 6%
[10:50] <elliotf> gfish: and what kind of machine?
[10:51] <gfish> and i didnt create a swap
[10:51] <elliotf> gfish:  you got to 6% where?
[10:51] <gfish> its a custom
[10:51] <navarone> gleesond> does the vd drive mount?
[10:51] <peter__> oh, so i have to run windows just to scan something, damn
[10:51] <navarone> dvd...rather...ahem
[10:51] <gfish> after the partition scren
[10:51] <gleesond> I'm not shure
[10:51] <trappist> peter__: 15:50 <trappist> peter__: sane-fine-scanner -p
[10:51] <dseomn> ah, I found it: GTK_IM_MODULE
[10:51] <navarone> I don't think you want to mount anything "vd"...<s>
[10:51] <peter__> tried already??
[10:51] <orbx> gfish: just completly reformat the drive, why do you need to partition anyways?
[10:52] <elliotf> gfish:  you can't use the auto-partition option?
[10:52] <gfish> i didnt see that
[10:52] <elliotf> peter__:  is the parallel port configured in BIOS?
[10:52] <orbx> elliotf , gfish: yes thats what i did worked fine
[10:52] <gfish> what will that do
[10:52] <gleesond> I can see it when I go to the gnome menue and look at divices under systemconfiguration
[10:52] <elliotf> gfish:  I believe it uses your entire HD for ubuntu
[10:52] <peter__> it should be, in windows the scanner is working
[10:52] <orbx> gfish: yep
[10:53] <elliotf> gfish:  it creates a root partition and a swap partition
[10:53] <gfish> will it create a swap and linux partition on my 1st hdd without formatting
[10:53] <gfish> cos i dont wanna lose windoze
[10:53] <gleesond> but when I go to the devices window it doesn't show
[10:53] <elliotf> gfish:  it will reformat, I believe
[10:53] <gfish> untill later time
[10:53] <Agrajag> you can make it resize the ntfs partition
[10:53] <orbx> gfish: why don't you wana lose windows
[10:53] <Agrajag> defragment it first
[10:53] <elliotf> gfish:  do you have free space on the HD?
[10:53] <gfish> because i may need windows
[10:53] <orbx> gfish: you won't have any second thoughts
[10:54] <elliotf> peter__:  dumb question, but did you try google?
[10:54] <orbx> gfish: Ubuntu is ver compatible
[10:54] <orbx> very(
[10:54] <peter__> yes
[10:54] <gfish> i have 32 gig on a 37 gig hdd spare
[10:54] <peter__> ok
[10:54] <gfish> and my other hdd is to be untouched
[10:54] <peter__> i will run windows
[10:54] <peter__> i don't have time to play with the settings
[10:54] <peter__> not now
[10:54] <orbx> gfish: just get rid of windows, ubuntu will cover all your needs
[10:54] <soundray> Trying to install Ubuntu, installer hangs. What can I do?
[10:55] <elliotf> gfish:  keep it until you are sure
[10:55] <gfish> yeah but what if i hate it
[10:55] <Agrajag> orbx: not if he needs to run windows software it won't.
[10:55] <peter__> run a live cd to test it
[10:55] <gfish> i dont game
[10:55] <gfish> or anything
[10:55] <Agrajag> gfish: defragment the windows drive and let the installer resize the ntfs partition
[10:55] <gfish> ok
[10:55] <peter__> cya
[10:55] <orbx> Agrajag: he doesn't game, just a programer
[10:55] <Agrajag> back up important stuff just in case.
[10:55] <trappist> gfish: I took the challenge - go a month without booting to windows.  that was 4 years ago and I haven't booted to windows since.
[10:55] <gfish> well the windows hdd is 1 week old
[10:55] <nickrud> _just_ heh
[10:56] <gfish> so does it really need defragging
[10:56] <Agrajag> gfish: maybe, maybe not. It won't take long to do it anyway
[10:56] <annaandlev> ok
[10:56] <Agrajag> with only 5 gigs used
[10:56] <navarone> gleesond> try system/admin/disks and see if your dvd drive is listed
[10:56] <annaandlev> i got wpasupplicant
[10:56] <annaandlev> what do i do with it?
[10:56] <orbx> gfish: thats what i mean, i installed on a small hd to see if i liked ubuntu. As soon as i booted it up i reformated my main HD and i am now running ubuntu full on
[10:56] <annaandlev> orbx, good choice
[10:56] <lightbright> whats the best way to totally remove something?  sudo aptitude remove totem ?
[10:56] <Agrajag> but if you're going to resize, you should be aware that it can't resize any smaller than whereever the last data-containing sector on the partition is
[10:56] <gfish> but i dont wanna completely format
[10:57] <gfish> cos all my music is on my other drive
[10:57] <Agrajag> which is why you should defrag, in case there's crap at the end of the drive
[10:57] <annaandlev> i got wpasupplicant, so what do i do with it?
[10:57] <gfish> id rather convert
[10:57] <orbx> annaandlev , gfish: unless you game or have a specific reason for windows for example windows programing like VB and asp just reformat and use ubuntu
[10:57] <lightbright> Seveas: do you ever use apt-get or you just always use aptitude?
[10:57] <annaandlev> ?
[10:57] <annaandlev> lol
[10:57] <annaandlev> exactly
[10:58] <orbx> thats all windows is good for...
[10:58] <Seveas> lightbright, always apt-get
[10:58] <annaandlev> windows is the only virus you will pay to use
[10:58] <gfish> lol
[10:58] <orbx> lol true true
[10:58] <Chousuke> Hehe
[10:58] <gfish> but ok if i install and love it
[10:58] <annaandlev> windows is just like air conditioning
[10:58] <Chousuke> a bit of healthy windows-bashing
[10:58] <annaandlev> once you open windows, it stops working and freezes over
[10:58] <orbx> lol
[10:59] <orbx> annaandlev: your funny
[10:59] <Chousuke> annaandlev: don't you mean computers?
[10:59] <gfish> how do i convert my other partitions
[10:59] <annaandlev> of course, Chousuke
[10:59] <annaandlev> its a joke
[10:59] <Agrajag> gfish: you can't convert.
[10:59] <orbx> gfish: just get rid of windows, you will like this better
[10:59] <Chousuke> Windows give you light to the house though
[10:59] <gleesond> navarone: is that a command?
[10:59] <annaandlev> get the livecd if you want to see how it is
[10:59] <Chousuke> too bad MS windows are closed
[10:59] <Chousuke> Hmm.
[10:59] <Agrajag> You'd have to move the files to a linux FS, and then reformat
[10:59] <Chousuke> I should open my windows and start calling them linux :P
[10:59] <annaandlev> so how do i use wpa for my wireless?
[11:00] <lightbright> Seveas: why dont you aptitude?  is it true that aptitude seems to keep better track of programs in case we want to remove?
[11:00] <navarone> gleesond> no. it is from the menu at the top of your screen...the Applications/Places/System
[11:00] <Guest_936> hey
[11:00] <orbx> gfish: if you have no use for windows why have it? With Ubuntu you can access a whole matter of programs better than windows programs at open source...
[11:00] <anton__> DShepard: still there?
[11:00] <Sanitarium> hey
[11:00] <annaandlev> gfish, if you want a program in windows
[11:00] <annaandlev> you have to go to their website
[11:00] <annaandlev> and wait a shitload
[11:00] <annaandlev> install the program
[11:00] <annaandlev> wait a shitload
[11:00] <Sanitarium> anyone know anything about a su error in kubuntu?
[11:00] <annaandlev> wait some more
[11:00] <gleesond> navarone: all I have is aplictions and computer
[11:00] <annaandlev> have the program crash
[11:01] <pppoe_dude> hi... how hard is it to program inputs/outputs to a USB interface? i know its not too hard to do with a parallel port, but what kind of circuitry do i need to interface with USB
[11:01] <annaandlev> and then wait some more
[11:01] <annaandlev> but in ubuntu
[11:01] <annaandlev> apt-get install program
[11:01] <orbx> install ONCE
[11:01] <annaandlev> what now?
[11:01] <annaandlev> done./
[11:01] <gfish> yeah
[11:01] <pppoe_dude> I probably need a decoder of some sort
[11:01] <lightbright> Seveas: whats your thoughts?
[11:01] <Sanitarium> can someone help me please?
[11:01] <gleesond> but when I go to computer divices it does not show up
[11:01] <Sanitarium> what should the root password on kubuntu be\/
[11:01] <navarone> gleesond> ddi you install ubuntu or kubuntu? ie..gnome based or kde based?
[11:01] <orbx> and Ubuntu looks sexy ;)
[11:02] <annaandlev> Sanitarium, make it "asdfjklsemicolon"
[11:02] <trappist> !tell Sanitarium about root
[11:02] <navarone> sanitarium> password is same pass you use to log on
[11:02] <gleesond> ubuntu
[11:02] <orbx> !tell gfish about ubuntu
[11:02] <gleesond> gnome
[11:02] <lightbright> Sanitarium: do you know who owns Sanitarium company?
[11:02] <felon> how do i find out what workgroup im on?
[11:02] <robbt> Has anyone else had it happen where they login to Ubuntu and nothing happens with GNOME, just a cursor and a brown background, cuz my other PC just did that and it's happened to me a few times before...
[11:02] <TURRICAN> Nightz
[11:02] <robbt> Gnome had just crashed before I restarted it.
[11:03] <Seveas> lightbright, for removal i use debfoster
[11:03] <navarone> gleesond> you should have a "System" in the menu field at top
[11:03] <lightbright> Sanitarium: do you know who owns Sanitarium company?  Want me to tell you? :)
[11:03] <annaandlev> so how do i use wpa for my wireless?
[11:03] <Sanitarium> who?
[11:03] <felon> Can anybody help me find out what network workgroup im on?
[11:03] <letibug> hi
[11:03] <lightbright> Seveas: so debfoster knows everything and its config files for a clean removal?
[11:03] <gleesond> I have worty installed on my computer if that makes a difference
[11:03] <Seveas> lightbright, no
[11:03] <annaandlev> so how do i use wpa for my wireless?
[11:04] <lightbright> Sanitarium: the Seventh-day Adventist Church owns Sanitarium. Did you know that?
[11:04] <Seveas> debfoster simply examines the tree of dependencies
[11:04] <anton__> Does anyone know if the ati drivers that comes with 5.10 is sufficient, or do I have to download new ones?
[11:04] <Seveas> dpkg and apt do the rest
[11:04] <Sanitarium> no
[11:04] <Sanitarium> lol
[11:04] <annaandlev> so how do i use wpa for my wireless?
[11:04] <anton__> cos at the moment I can't change the refreshrate
[11:04] <navarone> gleesond> I am using breezy...dunno what differences there is as far as layout between the two
[11:04] <orbx> does anyone know how to run php on an apache server, config it so it actually works.....
[11:04] <robotgeek> annaandlev: asking your question repeatedly won't help
[11:04] <annaandlev> it might
[11:04] <soundray> Can someon pls help me fix my boot problem?
[11:04] <lightbright> Sanitarium: so you are promoting the Seventh-day Adventist Church today it seems :)
[11:04] <Sanitarium> no
[11:04] <flp> hi
[11:04] <lightbright> Sanitarium: where you from?
[11:04] <soundray> *someone
[11:04] <paxmaster> in opera when I download a pdf in opera it ask me to open the pdf after that notting happen
[11:05] <Sanitarium> it is my username everywhere
[11:05] <Fred> why has host suddenly decided to only lookup one IP for me? it keeps returning the same thing for all IPs now :S => http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4677
[11:05] <Sanitarium> i am from ireland
[11:05] <benplaut> can someone test bug for me, to see if it's only my comp?
[11:05] <robotgeek> orbx: hmm, i've done that. one se
[11:05] <benplaut> nm
[11:05] <paxmaster> how can can i tell to which appliction to open  in opera
[11:05] <Bonzodog> Sanitarium: so am I
[11:05] <lightbright> Sanitarium: did you hear about the irishman who...... ahh, hmm forget it :)
[11:05] <mipe> I would like using ssh server. What package I need for this?
[11:05] <robotgeek> orbx: sudo a2enmod and enable the php module
[11:05] <gleesond> Its not in the /etc/fstab file either
[11:06] <Sanitarium> lol
[11:06] <Bonzodog> there is a #ubuntu-ie channel for irish members
[11:06] <gleesond> but I'm not too shure how to put it there
[11:06] <lightbright> Seveas: ok I wil also use debfoster from today to remove stuff. thanks!
[11:06] <Bonzodog> There is also an ubuntu ireland website
[11:06] <orbx> robotgeek: it aks for a password, what do i enter my ubuntu pass?
[11:07] <cafuego> orbx: yes
[11:07] <Sanitarium> what should my root password be?
[11:07] <lightbright> Seveas: I type debfoster remove totem ?
[11:07] <Agrajag> Sanitarium: you don't have one
[11:07] <orbx> robotgeek: says command wasn't found
[11:07] <cafuego> !root
[11:07] <ubotu> rumour has it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:07] <Sanitarium> Is there a default one?
[11:07] <lightbright> Sanitarium: same as username
[11:07] <Agrajag> !tell Sanitarium about rootsudo
[11:07] <ubuntu_> hi all
[11:07] <robotgeek> orbx: a2enmod ..hmm
[11:07] <lightbright> Sanitarium: type sudo -i
[11:07] <Sanitarium> so, my username passwors is the root password
[11:07] <Agrajag> no
[11:07] <lightbright> Sanitarium: type sudo -i and then enter your password and it will take you to root access
[11:07] <cafuego> orbx: Make sure apache2-common is installed.
[11:07] <lightbright> Sanitarium: yes
[11:08] <Agrajag> you don't have a root password, you use sudo.
[11:08] <Agrajag> lightbright: no, the root password is locked.
[11:08] <lightbright> Sanitarium: be careful in root
[11:08] <cafuego> Sanitarium: No, the root account is disabled. 'sudo' handles root permissions without actually requiring the root account to work.
[11:08] <Fred> Seveas, "host" is broken :\, any ideas? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4677
[11:08] <ubuntu_> hey gues
[11:08] <orbx> robotgeek, sorry spelt wrong (im dumb) what module do i enable, php5?
[11:08] <lightbright> Agrajag: to get root access its the user password is what im saying
[11:08] <robotgeek> orbx: yup
[11:08] <ubuntu_> may i ask u for little help
[11:08] <Agrajag> yes, but if he doesn't understand, you have to be exact about things.
[11:08] <Sanitarium> when I do that I get @unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()@
[11:08] <lightbright> as cafuego said :)
[11:09] <lightbright> Agrajag: ok sorry
[11:09] <ubuntu_> i just get ubuntu
[11:09] <dieman> wow
[11:09] <cafuego> Sanitarium: That means the entry for 'ubuntu' is missing in /etc/hosts
[11:09] <dieman> happy i didn't install breezy here yet
[11:09] <ubuntu_> its perfect
[11:09] <lightbright> Agrajag: ill be careful to explain better next time
[11:09] <dieman> this wnck-applet/mathematica thing would be a killer
[11:09] <Agrajag> just sayin' is all
[11:09] <Sanitarium> but...i just installes it
[11:09] <Sanitarium> *installed
[11:09] <ubuntu_> but from where to set the screen resolution
[11:09] <lightbright> Agrajag: yeah np thanks :)
[11:09] <ubuntu_> i try from system->prefe->......
[11:09] <paxmaster> how can can i tell to which appliction to open  in opera
[11:09] <orbx> robotgeek: it says the module is already installed?!?
[11:10] <robotgeek> orbx: hmm, weird.
[11:10] <orbx> robotgeek: but wen i try and view php it tries to download it
[11:10] <lightbright> ubuntu_: are you part of the Ubuntu development team? the reason I ask is becausde of your nick
[11:10] <ubuntu_> but there is one resolution 640x480
[11:10] <Sanitarium> anyone?
[11:10] <Kovecses> misfit_toybuntu, u around?
[11:10] <misfit_toybuntu> Kovecses, 'sup?
[11:11] <Kovecses> misfit_toybuntu, no longer a fedora user.... strickly ubuntu huh?
[11:11] <orbx> gfish: hello
[11:11] <Sanitarium> then I open konsole, i type "su" then i type my password, then it says it is wrong, what is up?
[11:11] <gfish> that was the last straw
[11:11] <ubuntu_> yes i want the bigger
[11:11] <shyko> alguien me ayuda?
[11:11] <ubuntu_> 1024x.....
[11:11] <gfish> firefox crashed
[11:11] <gfish> good damm windows
[11:11] <Agrajag> Sanitarium: as I've been saying, the root account is locked, you can't use su.
[11:11] <Agrajag> Sanitarium: use sudo -s
[11:11] <robotgeek> orbx: hmm, you might have to set the mime-type
[11:11] <lightbright> gfish: eeh
[11:11] <misfit_toybuntu> Kovecses, I still have an FC4 server, and I still run fedorasolved.com
[11:11] <shyko> alguien me ayuda por privado
[11:11] <Agrajag> and put in your password
[11:12] <Agrajag> !es
[11:12] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:12] <orbx> robotgeek: how would i do that?
[11:12] <misfit_toybuntu> Kovecses, but for the laptops here at home, pure Ubuntu, why?
[11:12] <Kovecses> misfit_toybuntu, ubuntu was horribly buggy on my machine
[11:12] <lightbright> Agrajag: i heard that is dangerous to use sudo -s. should use sudo -i instead.
[11:12] <Sanitarium> i get an error when I do that Agrajag
[11:12] <Agrajag> lightbright: eh, either way
[11:12] <Agrajag> Sanitarium: what error?
[11:12] <misfit_toybuntu> Kovecses, well ya never know what distro might not like your machine
[11:12] <Sanitarium> unable to look ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[11:12] <robotgeek> orbx: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:12] <cafuego> lightbright: Not really, just keep in mind that 'sudo -s' doesn't replace the env vars.
[11:12] <Kovecses> misfit_toybuntu, very true.... im actually on gentoo at the moment... im trying different distros
[11:13] <anton__> does anyone know the link to that nice ati drivers tutorial?
[11:13] <lightbright> cafuego: yes thats what I read and why the author said not to use it
[11:13] <Agrajag> Sanitarium: ok, that's weird
[11:13] <lightbright> i think I read it at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[11:13] <Kovecses> anton__, the ubuntu wiki
[11:13] <Stormx2> Installing a ttf in ubuntu, how?
[11:13] <shyko> alguien me ayuda?
[11:13] <Agrajag> ubuntu is not in /etc/hosts?
[11:13] <shyko> alguien me ayuda
[11:13] <shyko> me caguen vuestra puta zorra
[11:13] <shyko> madre es ke no ay ningun puto espaol
[11:13] <Stormx2> !es
[11:13] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:13] <Sanitarium> Agragjag: would that have anything to do with the fact that i'm not connected to the internet ATM?
[11:13] <shyko> en esta puta mierda de servidor?
[11:13] <cafuego> lightbright: Does said author have *any* credibility or is it just a random blogger? ;-)
[11:13] <lightbright> cafuego: so im ok to use sudo -i ?
[11:13] <Agrajag> shyko: watch your language
[11:13] <orbx> gfish: when i used firefox with windows it always crashed but with ubuntu NEVER has it crashed
[11:14] <cribeiro> shyko: portugues serve?
[11:14] <cafuego> lightbright: 'sudo -i' is the same as 'su -'
[11:14] <shyko> y una mierda
[11:14] <shyko> spanish
[11:14] <Agrajag> cribeiro: he's just cursing in spanish, ignore him
[11:14] <cafuego> lightbright: Notably it will make X apps not run.
[11:14] <Stormx2> How do i install a ttf in ubuntu?
[11:14] <lightbright> cafuego: I think I read it at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands  so you tell me as Im not qualfied to comment on who is or who is not credible as I cant compare it with accruate or true data
[11:14] <cafuego> Stormx2: Dump it in ~/.fonts
[11:14] <shyko> tan dificil es ke alguien me ayude con el ubuntu  me cago en la ostia?
[11:14] <Stormx2> cafuego: k
[11:14] <cafuego> Stormx2: Then run 'xset fp rehash'
[11:14] <cribeiro> Stormx2: I cant help you but I'm interested in the same kind of stuff :-)
[11:14] <cafuego> !tell shyko about es
[11:15] <Alfred> soo
[11:15] <lightbright> cafuego: so if I want to enter root to update and install and remove apps etc, whats best way in YOUR opinion?  sudo -i ?
[11:15] <gfish> im confused
[11:15] <Alfred> ok i change my nick   ubuntu_->Alfred
[11:15] <cafuego> lightbright: Nah, just run synaptic :-)
[11:15] <Alfred> so
[11:15] <Alfred> how to change the resolution
[11:15] <lightbright> cafuego: i like the cli :)
[11:15] <Alfred> to 1024x........
[11:15] <cafuego> lightbright: 'sudo -s' works fine for me.
[11:16] <Sanitarium> here is my full problem.......i need to get into the internet connection settings in the system settings because the internet isn't connecting. tehn i get into them and then i click on administration mode, it says "error KDE su". Nothing is working for me ATM :(
[11:16] <lightbright> cafuego: how come my Synaptic doesnt show all programs available that apt-cache does?
[11:16] <cafuego> lightbright: it doesn't?
[11:16] <gfish> does anyone use avance '97 for sound
[11:16] <cribeiro> Alfred: to change resolution on the fly, ctrl-alt-+ works
[11:16] <MrChubbs> http://sigil.outwar.com/page.php?x=1566057
[11:16] <MrChubbs> http://sigil.outwar.com/page.php?x=1566057
[11:16] <lightbright> cafuego: yes but doesnt some things need to change the env var etc>
[11:16] <ulisse> is it true, taht Evince has OCR capabilities? Or am I dreaming?
[11:16] <cribeiro> Alfred: but it just cycles on the resolutions that you already have configured in you X server
[11:17] <navarone> Sanitarium > are you using kde in ubuntu or actually using kubuntu version?
[11:17] <lightbright> cafuego: ?
[11:17] <cafuego> lightbright: Not that I've noticed; I specifically just run whatever I need to run as 'sudo <command>' and don't hang in a root shell.
[11:17] <Sanitarium> kubuntu
[11:17] <dougsko> hey guys, quick question: do you know if ubuntu has an executable stack?
[11:17] <cribeiro> Alfred: you may try to configure other resolutions (or "modes" in X speak)
[11:17] <Phuzion> Is it safe to delete initrd.img.old and vmlinuz.old?
[11:17] <cafuego> Phuzion: Not normally.
[11:17] <Phuzion> Alright
[11:17] <lightbright> cafuego: as you mentioned, 'sudo -s' doesn't replace the env vars.  so doesnt that need it when installing and removing apps etc?
[11:17] <Alfred> how
[11:17] <Fred> anyone got any ideas about this dns/host lookup issue? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4679
[11:17] <cafuego> Phuzion: They're the previous kernel, so you can boot it in case the new one is busted.
[11:17] <Alfred> i just get ubuntu
[11:18] <Sanitarium> i am using the kubuntu version
[11:18] <cafuego> lightbright: Nope
[11:18] <lightbright> cafuego: as you mentioned, 'sudo -s' doesn't replace the env vars.  so doesnt the env vars need replacing when installing new stuff and removing etc?  no?
[11:18] <Phuzion> Fred, do you have DNS servers defined?
[11:18] <gfish> my sound worked in xandros
[11:18] <cafuego> lightbright: Nope
[11:19] <lightbright> cafuego: ok I didnt know that!
[11:19] <gfish> will it work in ubuntu
[11:19] <lightbright> cafuego: are you 100% certain? :)
[11:19] <Fred> yes Phuzion, as it expects a reply from 192.168.2.1, which is my dns server...
[11:19] <cafuego> lightbright: Yep
[11:19] <lightbright> cafuego: ok thanks
[11:19] <lightbright> :)
[11:19] <cafuego> lightbright: Unless I have been subtly destroying all my debian and ubuntu machines over the past 6 years <heh>
[11:19] <Sanitarium> any ideas? I would love to get internet working on kubuntu
[11:19] <alex_dinamo> Hello, guys, I need a little help...
[11:19] <alex_dinamo> I have a brother who recently installed Ubuntu (I use Gentoo)... He is suffering, he's a medic...
[11:19] <cafuego> gfish: Yes
[11:20] <gfish> so it will work
[11:20] <alex_dinamo>  I need something (rdesktop) or anything to enter to his machine and help him sorting things out
[11:20] <Phuzion> Fred, are you sure that your DNS server is configured correctly?
[11:20] <lightbright> cafuego: hehe :)  and I have used sudo -i only, could I have damaged anything?
[11:20] <cribeiro> Alfred: when you install Ubuntu, it usually does a good job at detecting the "proper" resolutions, or modes, that you hardware supports.
[11:20] <Phuzion> Have you used another machine to connect out through it?
[11:20] <alex_dinamo> any ideas?
[11:20] <cafuego> alex_dinamo: System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[11:20] <Fred> Phuzion, it's an adsl modem/nat/router/firewall... it shud to it automatically :/
[11:20] <alex_dinamo> ok...
[11:20] <dougsko> alex_dinamo: ssh
[11:20] <cafuego> alex_dinamo: After that, you can use VNC
[11:20] <cribeiro> If it doesnt detect, they either: (1) the resolution is not supported by the Linux driver; (2) the resolution is supported but must be added by hand
[11:20] <Sanitarium> anyone?
[11:21] <cafuego> alex_dinamo: .. and yes, ssh always works.
[11:21] <lightbright> cafuego: ?
[11:21] <Phuzion> Fred, do you happen to have a windows XP machine hooked up to the network?
[11:21] <cafuego> lightbright: Nope
[11:21] <alex_dinamo> ok, I'll try to enter via ssh
[11:21] <Sanitarium> ?????
[11:21] <Kratos> Can I use CD/DVD Creator to blank CD-RWs?
[11:21] <lightbright> cafuego: ok :)
[11:21] <Phuzion> It looks like you're confusing your Gateway with your DNS server.
[11:21] <cafuego> Kratos: Right click a disc and see if you can choose 'erase'. if not, 'gnomebaker' can.
[11:21] <Fred> my gateway and dns server are the same
[11:21] <dougsko> Kratos: not sure, but k3b can
[11:22] <cribeiro> Alfred: but now, unfortunately, I'm not on my Ubuntu machine and I really don't remember from the top of my head
[11:22] <YaRi> hiiiiiiiii
[11:22] <alex_dinamo> I don't really know a lot about Ubuntu, so, maybe if I get access to the desktop, I can look my way around and install software for him and the like...
[11:22] <YaRi> www.micene86.altervista.org/win/radioirc-zeta.exe <----- listen my radio
[11:22] <Kratos> k3b?
[11:22] <cafuego> YaRi: Please don't spam the channel
[11:22] <YaRi> my radio :(
[11:22] <o_O> hey... I'm trying to switch to ubuntu... when I put in the install CD on my desktop, when it tries to detect hardware, it can't find my CD-ROM drives
[11:23] <Phuzion> Fred, your ISP is Pipex?
[11:23] <Fred> an exe file YaRi? yeah right
[11:23] <cafuego> YaRi: BLoody windows executable
[11:23] <Fred> yes Phuzion
[11:23] <jbroome> YaRi: your radio is a .exe?  dumbass
[11:23] <lightbright> is there a website similar to http://ubuntuguide.org but for Ubuntu 5.10 and not 5.04?
[11:23] <cafuego> YaRi: Trying to infect people with virii?
[11:23] <Phuzion> Try configuring your Ubuntu machine with 212.103.224.51 as your DNS server
[11:23] <anton__> Does anyone know how to findout ones kernel version?
[11:23] <dougsko> alex_dinamo: ssh in, start a vnc server, then you can use vnc to look around on yr desktop
[11:23] <soundray> anton__, uname -a
[11:23] <Fred> ok one sec Phuzion
[11:23] <anton__> ah, thx
[11:23] <alex_dinamo> dougsko, ok, excelent... I'll do just that
[11:23] <Sanitarium> why wont my password work for the root password!!!!!!!!!!! arrrrgghh
[11:24] <xerox> any ideas for sound?
[11:24] <Agrajag> Sanitarium: is the hostname "ubuntu" in /etc/hosts? I asked you once before
[11:24] <Agrajag> do cat /etc/hosts and look at the first line in it
[11:24] <soundray> I still can't boot past "Starting system log daemon" - any ideas?
[11:25] <xerox> anyone got any ideas for audio?
[11:25] <alex_dinamo> what is the line to start the sshd service in Ubuntu from a terminal??
[11:25] <xerox> i tried installing ALSA and stuff, but nothing
[11:25] <Sanitarium> yes, the host name is ubuntu, i installed it that way by accident, thats what I wana fix
[11:25] <Phuzion> xerox, does Ubuntu find your sound card?
[11:25] <Agrajag> Sanitarium: it should say something like 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost       ubuntu
[11:25] <Fred> Phuzion, it seems to lookup my hostname fine using that dns server :)
[11:25] <Agrajag> Sanitarium: don't even worry about changing it yet, is that entry in hosts?
[11:26] <Phuzion> Fred, then it's a DNS server issue.
[11:26] <Agrajag> if it's not, that is your problem.
[11:26] <Sanitarium> I cant get into change any hosts
[11:26] <xerox> phuzion, i dont think so
[11:26] <Sanitarium> because I get the su error
[11:26] <Phuzion> You may want to look at your DNS server configuration.
[11:26] <Knowerrors> Hi all, got two windows that say "Pan Icon" that won't close, opened with image viewer from Firefox, how do I close em please?
[11:26] <Agrajag> Just tell me if it is there
[11:26] <Sanitarium> that is my problem
[11:26] <Fred> ok. i'll see what servers my router is forwarding requests to and try using them. thanks :)
[11:26] <Phuzion> Alright.
[11:26] <cribeiro> xerox: are you interested in audio?
[11:27] <alex_dinamo> Excuse me, guys, I dont know know Ubuntu, I'm trying to help a brother who just installed it and knows next to nothing...
[11:27] <xerox> yes :)
[11:27] <Sanitarium> I am
[11:27] <blackhat> http://pastebin.com/433641 can someone help me
[11:27] <cribeiro> xerox: I'm trying to find more people interested in audio support in Ubuntu :-)
[11:27] <dougsko> Fred: ethereal may help you watch yr traffic
[11:27] <blackhat> I put my Ubuntu 5.10 disc in, and I tried hitting okay, - http://pastebin.com/433641
[11:27] <Alfred> hey
[11:27] <xerox> id love it cribeiro!
[11:27] <Alfred> dudes
[11:27] <Sanitarium> I dont have an etc/hosts folder :\
[11:28] <Alfred> who knows hot to change the resolution
[11:28] <Sanitarium> oh, whait
[11:28] <Sanitarium> to what?
[11:28] <Agrajag> So you get back cat: /etc/hosts: No such file or directory?
[11:28] <Agrajag> Also, that's a file, not a folder.
[11:28] <Sanitarium> no, i got it
[11:28] <Agrajag> oh
[11:28] <Alfred> right now i s 640x480
[11:28] <Sanitarium> i tought it was a directory
[11:28] <Sanitarium> :s
[11:28] <Agrajag> and is ubuntu listed on the first line?
[11:28] <Alfred> i want the bigges one
[11:28] <pistorio> MPlayer no mozila
[11:28] <Sanitarium> right click the desktop
[11:28] <navarone> Alfred > System/Preferences/Screen resolution
[11:28] <Alfred> yes
[11:28] <Alfred> man
[11:29] <cribeiro> xerox: where are you from? I have two links to share, but one is in portuguese
[11:29] <Alfred> but there is only one choise
[11:29] <dougsko> Alfred: take a look at /etc/X11/
[11:29] <dougsko> Alfred: thats where the config files are
[11:29] <Sanitarium> what do I edit in hosts?
[11:29] <navarone> Alfred> what vid card?
[11:29] <dougsko> Alfred: you may have to add resolutions
[11:29] <xerox> cribeiro: im in canada
[11:29] <Agrajag> Sanitarium: you can't edit it without root acces
[11:29] <Alfred> intel
[11:29] <Sanitarium> i know
[11:29] <Agrajag> is ubuntu listed on the ifrst line?
[11:29] <navarone> xerox> me too...and cold today...brr
[11:30] <Sanitarium> i need root access
[11:30] <Sanitarium> and the password wont work
[11:30] <xerox> navarone: i know eh!
[11:30] <Agrajag> Sanitarium: if you do not answer my question, I cannot help you.
[11:30] <xerox> it was like -18 today, i almost died haha
[11:30] <witless> is it hotplug that automatically mounts a media player's storage when you plug it into USB?
[11:30] <cribeiro> xerox: ok. I'm looking for better support for Sound Fonts and MIDI. but other stuff (sequencers, softsynths, low latency audio) are also of interest to me
[11:30] <Sanitarium> what question?
[11:30] <o_O> so, uh, anyone know how to install ubuntu when the installer won't see my CD ROM drive?
[11:30] <Agrajag> So. For the last time: Is ubuntu listed on the first line of /etc/hosts?
[11:30] <Agrajag> I have asked you like 5 times
[11:30] <dougsko> Alfred: xorg.conf is the one to change (or just add to)
[11:30] <HansZwolle> cribeiro: same here
[11:30] <xerox> i just have no audio output, at all, its not finding my sound card :S
[11:30] <o_O> is there any way to tell it to cache the CD before installing?
[11:30] <Sanitarium> no Adrajag
[11:30] <Agrajag> ok
[11:31] <Sanitarium> is that right?
[11:31] <Agrajag> no
[11:31] <cribeiro> xerox: I had this problem with one particular Kernel version and one particular ASUS motherboard.
[11:31] <Agrajag> it should say something like 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost       ubuntu
[11:31] <Sanitarium> i have 127.0.0.1,localhost.localdomain.   localhost,localhost
[11:31] <Alfred> how
[11:31] <umberleigh> hi, anyone know if vmware needs to be run as root in order to use an existing windows installation on a disk mounted so that root is user and group on it's contents?
[11:31] <Agrajag> You might need to boot off a livecd to fix this
[11:31] <cribeiro> xerox: now, for more audio stuff...could you check this? --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OfficialSoftSynthSupport
[11:32] <umberleigh> i think it does, but i'm not sure if this is necessary or sane
[11:32] <Agrajag> umberleigh: you can't do that
[11:32] <o_O> can anyone please help me install ubuntu????
[11:32] <xerox> im on a really old 233 with like 384mb of ram
[11:32] <Agrajag> vmware won't run a windows installation that was installed on real hardware
[11:32] <Alfred> dougsko  how?
[11:32] <cribeiro> xerox: oops.
[11:32] <richard> novice ubuntu user here:  what gtk version does 5.10 breezy have?
[11:32] <cribeiro> xerox: do you have a "onboard" sound support or do you have a PCI soundcard?
[11:33] <umberleigh> Agrajag: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VMWareBootInNativeandVM says otherwise
[11:33] <dougsko> Alfred: hold on a sec, let me look a around
[11:33] <crimsun> (onboard sound support is nearly always pci)
[11:33] <Alfred> ok
[11:33] <xerox> old sound plaster
[11:33] <xerox> *blaster haha
[11:33] <crimsun> which specific model of sb?
[11:33] <xerox> i think its a sound blaster...
[11:33] <xerox> not sure
[11:33] <cribeiro> crimsun: I know, but some motherboards are known to be broken with regards to sound support.
[11:33] <Agrajag> ah, two different HALs, huh
[11:34] <crimsun> cribeiro: yes, I'm well aware.
[11:34] <misfit_toybuntu> richard, gtk2
[11:34] <navarone> richard> you can see what is installed by using synaptic and clicking the staus button at bottom...choose installed and it will show you what is installed and you can right click anything that is of interest to check further details...hope that helps
[11:34] <cribeiro> crimsun: not to mention that sometimes the BIOS setting do not help!
[11:34] <richard> cheers guys thanks a lot
[11:34] <crimsun> xerox: dpkg -l isapnptools|grep ^ii
[11:34] <Sanitarium> what does the passwd file do?
[11:34] <lightbright> Sanitarium: be patient and look at it as a learning experience
[11:34] <cribeiro> xerox: if you have a sound blaster you should have no problem, most of the time
[11:34] <Sanitarium> i know :D
[11:34] <crimsun> cribeiro: bios manufacturers are not always very kind.
[11:34] <dougsko> Alfred: see the section "screen", then the subsection "display"? add a new resolution next to the others
[11:35] <dougsko> Alfred: then restart x
[11:35] <cribeiro> xerox: also, the output from lsmod is helpful
[11:35] <Sanitarium> lol
[11:35] <xerox> i did the dpkg, no found packages
[11:35] <lightbright> how can I fix mplayer and subfont. error?
[11:35] <cafuego> !info beagle dapper
[11:35] <Alfred> screen where?
[11:35] <ubotu> beagle: (indexing and search tool for your personal data), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), Packaged size: 747 kB, Installed size: 2372 kB
[11:36] <nerdzyboy> hi
[11:36] <nandasunu> any1 alive?
[11:36] <cribeiro> xerox: well. isapnptools may be needed in order to recognize the ISA card
[11:36] <dougsko> Alfred: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:36] <nandasunu> hi
[11:36] <cafuego> Only us zombies.
[11:36] <cribeiro> xerox: ARE need, not MAY be needed
[11:36] <nandasunu> I just installed ubutu
[11:36] <nandasunu> ubuntu
[11:36] <Agrajag> Sanitarium: If you boot off a livecd, you can mount your ubuntu root partition and change /etc/hosts to say the right thing
[11:36] <Nebular> so I'm using breezy and I've got cups setup with my printer and I'm printing to it from winxp via IPP. I can print the test page, but not much else, documents from notepad are hit or miss
[11:36] <nandasunu> first time on linux
[11:36] <xerox> hmm
[11:36] <crimsun> xerox: install it (it's a universe package)
[11:36] <cafuego> cribeiro: No, kernel pnp does away with isapnp for most cards
[11:36] <Sanitarium> ;p
[11:36] <crimsun> xerox: afterward, give me the output from pnpdump
[11:37] <xerox> ok
[11:37] <misfit_toybuntu> nandasunu, welcome to the monkeyhouse
[11:37] <crimsun> xerox: (paste it onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl)
[11:37] <blackhat> Whats the command to run a volume control
[11:37] <cribeiro> cafuego: I assumed that ISA cards needed it...
[11:37] <Alfred> ok
[11:37] <nandasunu> thanx
[11:37] <nerdzyboy> I just modified my xorg.conf file and I was wondering how am I supposed to place the modified file over the original? (it says I dont have permission to write to this folder...)
[11:37] <Alfred> open file screen
[11:37] <Alfred> and change
[11:37] <cafuego> cribeiro: Most of the functionality got moved in to an isapnp module in the kernel (as of 2.4.x) - makes my SBAWE64 be _properly_ pnp.
[11:37] <cribeiro> cafuago: at least, that was my own experience until recently. BUt anyway, I havent installed anything ISA-based over the past year or so
[11:37] <nandasunu> I was looking at the themes on
[11:37] <nandasunu> http://www.gnome-look.org/
[11:37] <dougsko> Alfred: yeah type, "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:38] <nandasunu> are they safe/easy to set up?
[11:38] <misfit_toybuntu> nandasunu, yes
[11:38] <cribeiro> xerox: which is the output of the lsmod command?
[11:38] <nandasunu> how do u do it?
[11:38] <dougsko> Alfred: sorry, you need a sudo too
[11:38] <cafuego> nandasunu: Yes, downlaod them, then drag & drop the archives on the themes window.
[11:38] <misfit_toybuntu> nandasunu, open system/prefs/themes then just drag and drop one on the themes app
[11:38] <nerdzyboy> anyone?
[11:38] <navarone> nerdzyboy> you have to have "root" to edit system files...open terminal type sudo gedit <file> and press enter...enter password and the file will opena nd you can edit and save
[11:38] <cribeiro> xerox: there are a number of sound-related modules that must be present
[11:38] <nandasunu> thanks
[11:38] <nandasunu> this default theme is a little depressing
[11:38] <nandasunu> lol
[11:39] <nerdzyboy> do I ahve to shutdown X?
[11:39] <SoulPropagation> how do i change my screen res to something not listed in the changes res menu?
[11:39] <lightbright> does anyone know please how can I fix mplayer and subfont. error?
[11:39] <Alfred> how was
[11:39] <navarone> nerdzy> no
[11:39] <misfit_toybuntu> nandasunu, you are two steps away from cool new themes, give it a shot
[11:39] <Alfred> sudo passwrd -h      ?
[11:39] <cafuego> Can anyone remember the name of the beagle search thingie that would replace 'best' ?
[11:39] <nandasunu> here goes nothin..
[11:39] <gonso> hi all!  quick question.  just installed ubuntu 5.10 on my IBM Thinkpad T43 and the wireless connection goes "Idle" with alarming frequency
[11:39] <cribeiro> Alfred: (and all folks helping Alfred) editing Xorg is not for everyone...
[11:39] <nerdzyboy> I have already created a copy of xorg.conf to work with
[11:39] <blackhat> Whats the command to run a volume controller.
[11:39] <nerdzyboy> its on my desktop
[11:39] <gonso> and the only thing that i've found to bring back the wireless connection (and therefore the internet) is to reset the entire connection profile
[11:40] <dougsko> cribeiro, but how can he add new resolutions?
[11:40] <nerdzyboy> I want to replace the original
[11:40] <xerox> i tried pnpdump and got Unable to get io permission for WRITE_DATA: Operation not permitted
[11:40] <Alfred> hey man i'am usig lunux form 12 h
[11:40] <misfit_toybuntu> cafuego, huh? lol
[11:40] <Alfred> and my firs choise is ubuntu
[11:40] <cribeiro> dougsko: you are right. but it's not the kind of the thing that I would try to do remotely... things can get badly broken.
[11:40] <Alfred> and i'm not going to change it
[11:40] <Sanitarium> if i install kubuntu again with the host name as localhost, would the internet work?
[11:41] <lightbright> has anyone gotten a subfont error with loading mplayer?
[11:41] <dougsko> cribeiro: im not doing it, he is
[11:41] <cribeiro> xerox: did you sudo it?
[11:41] <cafuego> lightbright: Yeah, lost of people. Simply pick a .ttf in the prefs.
[11:41] <lightbright> Sanitarium: you using a modem?
[11:41] <cribeiro> dougsko: ok... nevermind
[11:42] <nerdzyboy> did a mv as root
[11:42] <nerdzyboy> thanks
[11:42] <dougsko> Alfred: this kinda thing is distro independent. you just gotta get in there and play with /etx/X11/xorg.conf. just remember to back it up first, and youll be fine
[11:42] <lightbright> cafuego: where do I find a font?
[11:42] <Alfred> how
[11:42] <xerox> whoops
[11:42] <nerdzyboy> How do I restart x?
[11:43] <lightbright> cafuego: where do I find a .ttf?
[11:43] <dougsko> Alfred: its just a text file
[11:43] <misfit_toybuntu> nerdzyboy, ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:43] <navarone> Alfred> you can always open the files anyway to look around and get comfortable with contents and format before going "rott" and editting for real
 Sanitarium: you using a modem? <--- Yes, I am using broadband
[11:43] <cafuego> lightbright: /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[11:43] <lightbright> Sanitarium: cant connect?
[11:43] <lightbright> cafuego: cool thanls
[11:43] <Alfred> ok 10x
[11:43] <navarone> Sanitarium> I used to use carrier pigeons but they proved unreliable..<s>
[11:43] <Sanitarium> no
[11:44] <nerdzyboy> How do I restart X?
[11:44] <Fred> is there a tutorial anywhere about joining my ubuntu box to a windows active directory domain?
[11:44] <Sanitarium> ah
[11:44] <SoulPropagation> how do i change my screen res to something not listed in the changes res menu?
[11:44] <xerox> pnpdump http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d4681
[11:44] <SoulPropagation> change*
[11:44] <dougsko> nerdzyboy: ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:44] <navarone> nerdzt> press ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:44] <dougsko> nerdzyboy: then startx
[11:44] <navarone> snap
[11:45] <soundray> SoulPropagation, the available resolutions are from your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:45] <o_O> errr, can someone please help me install ubuntu?
[11:45] <cribeiro> xerox: sorry, I have to go.
[11:45] <xerox> shucks
[11:45] <soundray> SoulPropagation: To change, 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[11:45] <SoulPropagation> ah, i know
[11:45] <nerdzyboy> thanks
[11:45] <SoulPropagation> i just hate doing that XD
[11:46] <soundray> o_O, what's the trouble?
[11:46] <o_O> I put in the CD, hit enter to start installing
[11:46] <o_O> after it tries to detect hardware, it says Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted
[11:46] <stazich> Coweater, hey coweater.. it is me again with the iMac and sound problems... did you have any suggestions??
[11:46] <o_O> it refuses to mount the CD
[11:46] <xerox> im gunna check my BIOS, see if anything needs to be changed
[11:46] <soundray> o_O, how is your CD drive connected?
[11:46] <o_O> the CD is perfectly valid, I verified it
[11:46] <xerox> brb
[11:46] <o_O> IDE
[11:47] <o_O> one is on primary master, other is on secondary master
[11:47] <Fred> Phuzion, i added my ISP's dns servers to the network control thing, but loads of stuff still wont lookup :S
[11:47] <o_O> I tried both drives, both give that error
[11:47] <Alfred> ok
[11:48] <rrichie> hi all
[11:48] <Alfred> section screen
[11:48] <Fred> Phuzion, i get stuff like "Host xx.xx.xx.xx.in-addr.arpa not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)"
[11:48] <holycow> looks like hotplug is hosed on breezy
[11:48] <rrichie> is it possible to connect to a distant existing X session (without having to log in) ?
[11:48] <Alfred> now what to change
[11:48] <holycow> at least some installs
[11:48] <lightbright> I keep getting an error with mplayer :Too many packets in the buffer"  any solution to this?
[11:48] <Alfred> to get the biggest resolution
[11:48] <odat> anyone know how to mount a second hard drive that is a windows formated slave drive
[11:48] <watnu> o_O: maybe if you use a bootmanager on a floppie?
[11:48] <lightbright> cafuego: any ideas?
[11:48] <navarone> o_O> check out this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2988
[11:48] <stazich> anyone here running UbuntuPPC on iMac????
[11:48] <dougsko> Alfred: this page might help you get some of the basics down: http://www.unixguide.net/linux/linuxshortcuts.shtml
[11:48] <cafuego> stazich: Yes-ish. WHich iMac?
[11:48] <o_O> watnu, how would that help? the BIOS is loading the CD just fine
[11:48] <stazich> 350DV
[11:49] <stazich> cafuego, how is ur sound setup? ALSA?
[11:49] <cafuego> stazich: No, purple 350 :-)
[11:49] <cafuego> stazich: Just the default; works fine.
[11:49] <blocky> can someone tell me how to get k3b to support mp3s for audio cds
[11:49] <stazich> cafuego, do you have Mplayer??
[11:49] <cafuego> stazich: Not on that Mac, no. Pointless./
[11:49] <dougsko> blocky, theres a package for that
[11:49] <cafuego> blocky: The wiki.
[11:50] <soundray> o_O, maybe you need a special module to support your IDE chipset. How old is the machine?
[11:50] <Alfred> hey man i dont have all life ot read
[11:50] <o_O> a couple years
[11:50] <soundray> o_O, in that case, forget that.
[11:50] <o_O> I've had gentoo on it without a problem for a couple years
[11:50] <stazich> cafuego, why?? it is best for its lite weight... even systems with low resources playback stuff fine with mplayer
[11:50] <o_O> trying to switch to ubuntu
[11:50] <watnu> o_O: i had a problem once with CD-booting while the bios settings were perfectly ok, booting from a floppie with a bootmanager helped me out..
[11:50] <annaandlev> how do i set up wpa?
[11:50] <annaandlev> can i get a step-by-step for wpa?
[11:50] <xinthea> hello everyone.  i just updgraded to breezy but am no longer getting a login screen. :((
[11:50] <o_O> I don't have any floppies at this point
[11:50] <annaandlev> ive googled it
[11:51] <blocky> which wiki
[11:51] <dougsko> Alfred: well if you dont know how to make a backup and edit a config file, you're not gonna get too far using linux. you have to be willing to learn *at least* the basics
[11:51] <soundray> watnu, o_O's problem doesn't seem to be booting as such.
[11:51] <lightbright> cafuego: any ideas?
[11:51] <Alfred> i know
[11:51] <odat> anyone know how to mount a second hard drive that is a windows formated slave drive
[11:51] <Alfred> i play with knoppix
[11:51] <soundray> watnu, rather continuing the installation after boot.
[11:51] <Alfred> slax
[11:51] <cribeiro> Alfred: my opinion.
[11:51] <Alfred> vector
[11:51] <soundray> o_O, is that right?
[11:51] <Alfred> but
[11:52] <Alfred> ubuntu is the best
[11:52] <o_O> soundray, yes
[11:52] <watnu> soundray: youre probably right
[11:52] <Cyphase> lol, i just got a call from ANTs Software..
[11:52] <cribeiro> Alfred: mey personal opinion is that most of the times, we should not mess with  xorg configuration. If it didn't put a higher resolution on the config automatically, it's because it could not detect it.
[11:52] <Cyphase> apparently i visited their booth at linuxworld SF
[11:52] <soundray> o_O, are you IRC'ing on the machine in question?
[11:52] <xinthea> i like ubuntu too and had a working 5.04 system.  just updated to 5.10 and can no longer login.
[11:52] <cribeiro> Alfred: in the old times the autodetection was not good, and you HAD to edit the X config file. Today... it's not a very good idea anymore, most of the times anyway.
[11:53] <Alfred> my screen is 17"
[11:53] <o_O> soundray, no
[11:53] <o_O> soundray, I have multiple machines
[11:53] <dougsko> Alfred: check this out, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[11:53] <Alfred> and the picture is a small box
[11:53] <soundray> o_O, can you activate a shell?
[11:53] <Alfred> in the midle of the screen
[11:53] <dougsko> Alfred, that should walk you though
[11:54] <o_O> soundray, yeah, the last option on the menu that came up after it failed brings me to a shell
[11:54] <navarone> o_O> or anyone helping him check this page out and look at entry 4 in Errata  http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/index#errata
[11:54] <soundray> o_O, leave the installer running and open a shell with Alt-F2
[11:54] <Diabolikal> .
[11:54] <odat> anyone know how to mount a second hard drive that is a windows formated slave drive
[11:54] <o_O> soundray, ok
[11:55] <navarone> odat>is it foramtted ntfs or fat32?
[11:55] <soundray> o_O, in Gentoo, your CD-ROMs are hda and hdac?
[11:55] <soundray> *hdc
[11:55] <odat> navarone, ntfs
[11:55] <o_O> soundray, yes
[11:56] <navarone> odat> from what i gather it is dangerous to mount and try to write to ntfs drives in linux
[11:56] <blocky> in case anyone else has this problem
[11:56] <Agrajag> navarone: reading is perfectly safe though
[11:56] <soundray> o_O, what happens if you try to mount /dev/hd[a,c]  manually?
[11:56] <o_O> the Promise RAID controller drives are hdf and hdh
[11:56] <dougsko> odat: yeah, you can read from them, but writing can lead to corruption
[11:56] <blocky> apt-get install k3b-mp3 for mp3 decoding support in k3b
[11:57] <o_O> soundray, mount: MOunting /dev/hdc on /cdrom failed: Invalid argument
[11:57] <odat> dougsko, i just want to read from them and or burn some files that are on it to a cd
[11:58] <navarone> odat...there is a entry in ubuntu wiki about auto mounting partitions...i used it give it a shot...i will find exact url. You wget a file to run and the drives appear right away...it's like magic...one sec
[11:58] <dougsko> odat: well, id try copying them to yr linux partition before really working on them
[11:58] <holycow> time to try the oem installation mode next
[11:58] <Alfred> how to add momitor
[11:58] <odat> dougsko, well how to i even see that drive in linux
[11:58] <Alfred> cous is defout
[11:59] <Alfred> mine is siemens