| Diablo-D3 | hey Riddell | 12:07 |
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| Diablo-D3 | is it a known bug that the gtk theme selector doesn't list anything but qt and raleigh? | 12:09 |
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| Tm_T | Diablo-D3: here does list all | 12:33 |
| Tm_T | bah, sleep -> | 12:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | Meh. | 12:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | it wont for me =/ | 12:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://insidethedotnet.blogspot.com/2005/11/next-sucks.html | 01:04 |
| Riddell | Diablo-D3: gtk theme selector lists qt? cool | 01:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | Riddell: the one in kcontrol =P | 01:47 |
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| Riddell | Diablo-D3: maybe that's the only themes you have | 01:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | Riddell: no, I have others installed | 01:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | Riddell: gtk2-engines-clearlooks | 01:53 |
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| Verwilst | yoyo | 10:02 |
| Verwilst | Riddell? | 10:02 |
| Verwilst | http://www.kubuntu.org/images/kubuntu-banner.png | 10:02 |
| Verwilst | what site did you use to make this? | 10:02 |
| Verwilst | i was there once, but i forgot, and i want to make a few of those myself :( | 10:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | ooh | 10:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | I think I have that in my bookmarks | 10:02 |
| Verwilst | oooh! | 10:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://gtmcknight.com/buttons/index.php | 10:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | follow the links off that page | 10:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | he links to two or three sites that do that | 10:03 |
| Verwilst | yes! thanks!! | 10:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | I just realized something | 10:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | I may, infact, have all the interesting parts of the net in my bookmarks | 10:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have significantly increased the startup time of firefox due to the size of my bookmarks | 10:05 |
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| Verwilst | lol | 10:06 |
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| bobuse | Hi there ! How does adept go to admin mode ? I want to allow to adept to be launched without password, but adept isn't launched with sudo command but with kdesu | 10:21 |
| bobuse | I've looked at sources ( http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/sysadmin/ept/manager/app.cpp?rev=465064&view=markup ), but found nothing :-( | 10:22 |
| tvo | bobuse: you say it, it goes to admin mode via kdesu.. | 10:35 |
| bobuse | ok, but I want to bypass the password dialog box, how can I do ? | 10:35 |
| tvo | there's a keep password checkmark on the dialog, but I've never used it | 10:36 |
| tvo | if that doesn't work then I don't know.. | 10:36 |
| bobuse | I've added /usr/bin/adept in sudoers with NOPASSWD | 10:37 |
| bobuse | but it works only when I run adept in a term by "sudo adept" | 10:37 |
| bobuse | tvo: the checkbox doesn't work through session | 10:38 |
| tvo | ah | 10:38 |
| Verwilst | alias kdesu='sudo' ? :) | 10:42 |
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| hunger_ | Any KDE updates planned for dapper? | 10:43 |
| Tm_T | http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35rc1.php | 10:43 |
| Tm_T | there's something mentioned | 10:43 |
| hunger_ | Tm_T: I am stuck with a horrbly broken desktop since the qt update in dapper. It would be great if some fixes would make it into that distribution, too | 10:46 |
| hunger_ | Oh, the stuff is waiting for the C++ transition. | 10:47 |
| Tm_T | hum | 10:47 |
| Tm_T | I have all working fine | 10:47 |
| Tm_T | dapper and 3.5RC1 | 10:47 |
| hunger_ | Good, I can understand that:-) | 10:47 |
| hunger_ | Tm_T: I'm at dapper plus beta2. | 10:48 |
| Tm_T | then use RC1 | 10:48 |
| hunger_ | Tm_T: Thanks for the tip.I'll do that (even though I had hoped not having to use non-dapper repositories). | 10:48 |
| Tm_T | heh | 10:52 |
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| freeflying | Tm_T: can you make akregtor(from kde3.5rc1) work in dapper | 11:15 |
| Tm_T | well, I compile kdepim myself | 11:15 |
| Tm_T | from svn | 11:15 |
| Tm_T | and is working just fine | 11:15 |
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| lamont-away | Riddell: kdeaddons_4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 needs ICE-love | 02:54 |
| Riddell | lamont-away: which it will get with the 3.5 upload due after the libstdc++ transition, but I can do a 3.4.3 upload if you want | 02:55 |
| lamont-away | no worries - if it's just going to change and all that, it can wait a week | 02:55 |
| lamont-away | although I might forget and upload it.... :-) | 02:55 |
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| lamont-away | Riddell: fwiw, kdebluetooth also ICE | 03:16 |
| lamont-away | and amarok | 03:17 |
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| \sh | amarok needs more love then only ICE | 03:36 |
| \sh | or I will remove again the libvisual support | 03:36 |
| Riddell | \sh: couldn't get libvisual working? | 03:41 |
| \sh | Riddell: well..libvisual is failing on ppc | 03:42 |
| \sh | Riddell: and libvisual-plugins is broken like hell...not worth it to fix it by ourselves...I checked with fedora and they removed half of the shiny stuff | 03:43 |
| \sh | but for amarok we do need libvisual on our 3 main platforms...and libvisual-plugins for the "funny sparkeling and jumping pixels while u are listening to tekkno and using extasy" | 03:44 |
| \sh | which means...fixing libvisual is 1st prio..(i need some ppc to work and test) and libvisual we could send to universe | 03:46 |
| Riddell | does libvisual do anything without libvisual-plugins? | 03:50 |
| \sh | Riddell: lets say it like this: libvisual-plugins are not doing anything without libvisual... | 03:51 |
| \sh | Riddell: and without libvisual-plugins, the libvisual support in amarok is useless | 03:51 |
| \sh | but thinking about it now...we could bring amarok-1.3.5 or what ever amarok is out there now to dapper without libvisual{-plugins} and waiting to have working libvisual plugins for dapper +1 | 03:53 |
| \sh | smoking...brb | 03:54 |
| Riddell | https://launchpad.net/people/tvon who's that? in katapult-dev team | 04:04 |
| Riddell | not tvo? | 04:04 |
| Riddell | no | 04:04 |
| tvo | no | 04:11 |
| tvo | is there a katapult dev team on launchpad? | 04:13 |
| Riddell | apparantly there is :) | 04:13 |
| Riddell | https://launchpad.net/people/katapult-dev | 04:13 |
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| \sh | Riddell: what do u think about removing libvisual support from amarok and do it for dapper+1? | 04:18 |
| Riddell | \sh: fine with me :) | 04:19 |
| \sh | Riddell: ok...I'll prepare some packages :) | 04:20 |
| jjesse | Riddell can you edit the members of that team in launchpad? it says mine has expired? | 04:20 |
| \sh | or actually we can wait after c++ trans and kde3.5 uploads | 04:20 |
| Riddell | jjesse: which team? | 04:21 |
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| Tonio_ | hi all | 07:24 |
| jjesse | hello | 07:25 |
| author-psi | hi | 07:26 |
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| alleeHol | Tonio_: what's the status of yukuake? | 08:08 |
| Tonio_ | alleelast version is uploaded to dapper | 08:10 |
| Tonio_ | alleeHol: | 08:10 |
| Tonio_ | sorry ;) | 08:10 |
| alleeHol | np | 08:10 |
| Tonio_ | so we're up to date | 08:11 |
| alleeHol | well, then I had a typo. Question is had you an wnpp submitted? Background: anja just commited a version for debian :( | 08:11 |
| Tonio_ | wnpp ? what does this mean ? | 08:12 |
| alleeHol | hmm nothing: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=yukuake | 08:12 |
| Tonio_ | alleeHol: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=yakuake&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all | 08:13 |
| alleeHol | http://bugs.debian.org/wnpp # this is the pseudo pkg used to submit ITP RFS and RTP ;) | 08:13 |
| Tonio_ | okay | 08:14 |
| alleeHol | Tonio_ I'll write anja to contact you about yukuake | 08:15 |
| Tonio_ | yep | 08:15 |
| alleeHol | Tonio_: If you've any other pkgs only in kubuntu it would be nice if you could submit RFS (request for sponsor) to wnpp pkg. Wnpp is normaly the first place a debian devel check before starting pkging | 08:16 |
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| alleeHol | AFAIR this was also somewhere in MOTU pages | 08:16 |
| Tonio_ | hum | 08:17 |
| Tonio_ | in fact I'm taking away from the debian community ;) | 08:17 |
| Tonio_ | that's not a good thing, of course, but that's it... | 08:17 |
| alleeHol | Tonio_: just a wnpp is not much additional work. One has to do it only once in pkg lifetime | 08:19 |
| Tonio_ | only once ? | 08:19 |
| Tonio_ | I quite don't understand..... | 08:19 |
| Tonio_ | and what about updates ? | 08:19 |
| Tonio_ | in fact about all my packages aren't packages for debian | 08:20 |
| alleeHol | If one starts pkg one submits an wnpp bug report (ITP interest to pkg) and with claims: I do it, don't waste your time. | 08:20 |
| alleeHol | with first upload you close the bug in the changelog: * Initial upload (Closes: #itp-bug-number) that it. | 08:21 |
| alleeHol | In your case: you send a RFS or RTP (request for sponsor/ to package) and let others know that you are working on it to prevent duplicate work | 08:22 |
| Tonio_ | what do you call a "request for sponsor" ? | 08:23 |
| Tonio_ | what to goal of it ? | 08:23 |
| alleeHol | A debian devel interested in the pkg will contact you and upload the pkg for you | 08:23 |
| Tonio_ | in fact, consider that I don't know anything about wnpp :) | 08:23 |
| Tonio_ | okay.... | 08:24 |
| Tonio_ | and what about packages updates ? | 08:24 |
| Tonio_ | I understand the point for an initial package | 08:24 |
| Tonio_ | but do we have to send a RFS for every update ? | 08:25 |
| alleeHol | Tonio_: wnpp bug-reports are there to prevent duplicate pkging efford in debian | 08:25 |
| alleeHol | for updates there are several possibilities: | 08:25 |
| alleeHol | Tonio_: a) as I do: devel on kubuntu. pbuild and test on sid and send to sponsor. He upload and ubuntu autosyncs ;) | 08:26 |
| alleeHol | b) send a notification that to the one uplaoded the pkg to sid and let take him/her care | 08:27 |
| alleeHol | c) for a development team so both know that going on and when to upload ;) | 08:27 |
| alleeHol | Tonio_: c) is the best imho | 08:28 |
| alleeHol | Tonio_: I'll cc you the Mail to anja | 08:28 |
| Tonio_ | I don't understand c ;) | 08:28 |
| Tonio_ | alleeHol: can you describe C ? | 08:29 |
| alleeHol | Tonio_: yes ... | 08:29 |
| Tonio_ | no verb in your phrase, and my english is quite limited lol | 08:30 |
| alleeHol | Tonio_: I'll try to avoid noun too, maybe this helps | 08:30 |
| Tonio_ | alleeHol: yep :) | 08:31 |
| Tonio_ | my question would be | 08:32 |
| alleeHol | Tonio_: for c): e.g., use a source code repo [or keep each other informed via e-mail (stone age;) ] | 08:32 |
| Tonio_ | what is REVU usefull for ? | 08:32 |
| Mez | Tonio_ for reviewing packages by MOTUs | 08:32 |
| Tonio_ | if I follow you, it is better packaging for debian, and then let ubuntu autosync right ? | 08:32 |
| alleeHol | Tonio_: well, when one cares that a pkg is also in debian and uptodate yes (IMHO) | 08:34 |
| Tonio_ | sounds strcturally like a kind of mess ;) | 08:34 |
| alleeHol | Tonio_: yes, unfortunately :( | 08:35 |
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| alleeHol | Tonio_: but it's no requirement that a kubuntu pkg cares about debian (nice if he does not not required) | 08:37 |
| alleeHol | Tonio_: nevertheless as a minimum of care I consider to submit a RFP to the wnpp pseudo-package to bugs.debian.org | 08:38 |
| alleeHol | Tonio_: back to were we started, right? | 08:39 |
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| Tonio_ | allee: yes ;) | 08:41 |
| Tonio_ | the problem is that I wanna contribute and help in the best way | 08:41 |
| Tonio_ | but anyway, I have a private life, a job etc... | 08:41 |
| Tonio_ | I don't want to become addicted to this | 08:41 |
| Tonio_ | ;) | 08:41 |
| Tonio_ | but I'll have a look at that yes | 08:42 |
| allee | Tonio_: no offense intended. We all do your best and mine of most of the time not worth to mention | 08:42 |
| Tonio_ | maybe just posting rfs would be good | 08:42 |
| Tonio_ | allee: don't get me wrong, I really appreciate your effort in elping us (and me !) to make things in the best possible way | 08:43 |
| allee | of RTP, this means you will not test on debian and the one who pick it up for debian should do it | 08:43 |
| Tonio_ | yep | 08:43 |
| allee | s/or/of/ | 08:44 |
| Tonio_ | the problem is in the source in fact | 08:44 |
| allee | argl! | 08:44 |
| Tonio_ | not to what you ask, that I perfectly understand | 08:44 |
| Tonio_ | why don't they decide of a unique package format, that would be build by the upstream | 08:44 |
| Tonio_ | argh !!! ;) | 08:44 |
| Tonio_ | that debian/ubuntu/mepis/blabla world would need a unique plateform | 08:45 |
| Tonio_ | for packagers | 08:45 |
| allee | distros are too different ;) | 08:45 |
| Tonio_ | hum | 08:45 |
| Tonio_ | talking about ubuntu yes | 08:46 |
| Tonio_ | mepis is just a debian packaged in a specific way | 08:46 |
| allee | think about dependencies, mit API changes backporting gets non trival even in the same distro | 08:46 |
| Tonio_ | I don't think ededicated developpment is done on mepis | 08:46 |
| Tonio_ | allee: you're right ;) (frustrating, but you're always right hehe) | 08:47 |
| allee | Well, I only care about kubuntu and debian. More than enough for my free time. never tried mepis yet | 08:47 |
| Riddell | mepis breaks the GPL and ships win32codecs | 08:48 |
| Tonio_ | we all have the same problem -> days are 24 hours only.... | 08:48 |
| allee | Tonio_: until later. Kids make a revolution here. They need a peacemaker :) | 08:48 |
| Tonio_ | need to migrate to venus for exemple | 08:48 |
| Tonio_ | one day is 6 months here hehe :) | 08:48 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ah ? I new for w32codecs, but never heard about the GPL..... | 08:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that's really bad....... | 08:49 |
| Riddell | I havn't been able to find sources for their Qt installer, and neither has anyone else | 08:50 |
| Riddell | possible the guy has a licence, but I suspect not | 08:51 |
| Tonio_ | allee: I'm in a very, very bad moon today in fact | 08:52 |
| Tonio_ | allee: that is the reason I'm not very "positive" like always | 08:53 |
| Tonio_ | allee: I'm preparing to the worst week in my working career... | 08:53 |
| allee | Tonio_: oh! | 08:53 |
| Tonio_ | allee: can you imagine I'm going in a company to install a linux server, with apache, then make an index.html with two frames, and just create another page with html links | 08:54 |
| Tonio_ | allee: and I have to stay there for 5 days......... | 08:54 |
| Tonio_ | WHAT WILL I DO ??????????? | 08:54 |
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| Tonio_ | allee: the point is, if I do it in 3 hours, which I suspect, my company will be VERY unhappy | 08:55 |
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| Riddell | who's wanting to test a kubuntu flight CD tonight? | 08:55 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that could be good for my mood ;) | 08:56 |
| allee | Tonio_: install a dapper changeroot and fix pkg bugs or create new pkgs (+ RTP of course ;) | 08:56 |
| Riddell | hopefully it'll be available in a hour or so | 08:56 |
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| Tonio_ | allee: I didn't say that -> no access to internet.......... | 08:57 |
| allee | Riddell: I have only 8k downlink. no good idea tonight;) | 08:57 |
| Tonio_ | allee: 4 days looking at my screen, pretending that I have a big problem, blablabla | 08:57 |
| allee | Tonio_: no internet?? Call the police, that's criminal | 08:57 |
| Tonio_ | allee: in fact they have, but would you, as a contractor, spend your day on the net (they have a loging proxy) ? | 08:58 |
| Tonio_ | and I'm not sure that contractors have access anyway | 08:58 |
| allee | Tonio_: eh, really bad! | 08:58 |
| Tonio_ | allee: can you imagine that company is gonna pay 3000 for a RHES installation ? | 08:59 |
| Tonio_ | that completly STUPID | 08:59 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: sneak in a Kubuntu CD there :) | 08:59 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: can't you spend the rest of the time fixing Kubuntu bugs? | 08:59 |
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| jpatrick | Anyone know where the "Support" page went? | 08:59 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: fixing ? I'm not a developper.... I only can test and report :) | 09:00 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: link fixed, sorry about that | 09:00 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I'm sure there's lots of bugzilla things can be cleaned out or marked as duplicate or marked as "please explain this" etc | 09:01 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: No problem, someguy on the forums brought it up | 09:01 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that requires internet access.... | 09:01 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: you don't have internet access? | 09:02 |
| Tonio_ | at home yes | 09:02 |
| Riddell | how are you going to set up apache without internet access? | 09:02 |
| Tonio_ | not next week | 09:02 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yes, I will have to set up apache without internet access | 09:03 |
| Tonio_ | that's the trick ;) | 09:03 |
| Tonio_ | but it is a redhat ES | 09:03 |
| Riddell | umm, why is it being set up if it doesn't have internet access? | 09:03 |
| Tonio_ | everything is shipped with it | 09:03 |
| Tonio_ | it is for the intranet, not internet, it is possible | 09:04 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that's the reason I was talking about my worst week working EVER ;) | 09:04 |
| Riddell | take a good book? | 09:05 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum, I'll be in an open space | 09:05 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: however hard I try I can't seem to get moodin to make a *.orig.tar.gz :( | 09:05 |
| Tonio_ | so I will have to pretend to work... for 4 days | 09:05 |
| Tonio_ | what a bullshit in fact ! | 09:05 |
| Tonio_ | ho yes ;) | 09:06 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: you make the .orig.tar.gz, it should pick it up and use it (assuming it's named correctly) | 09:06 |
| jpatrick | This is the sixth time I've tried | 09:06 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: scanning all the book and read it with a big less in shell ;) nobody will see ;) hahaha | 09:06 |
| jpatrick | Make it by hand it is | 09:07 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: what are you naming the file? | 09:07 |
| jpatrick | Just running dpkg-buildpackage (does it by it self) | 09:07 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: you have to make the .orig file | 09:07 |
| jpatrick | got it | 09:07 |
| Riddell | it doesn't get done for you | 09:07 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I may have to time to write documentation for kubuntu !!! | 09:08 |
| Tonio_ | that can be done locally ;) | 09:08 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: ooh, good idea | 09:08 |
| jjesse | Tonio_: writing docs for Kubuntu? | 09:08 |
| Tonio_ | hum what king of would be usefull ? | 09:08 |
| jjesse | that would be awesome :) | 09:08 |
| Riddell | although I don't know what's ready to be worked on, need to ask jjesse | 09:08 |
| Tonio_ | well, I will unfortunatelly have a lot of time to try not to sleep so ;) | 09:09 |
| jjesse | hopefully this weekend will lay the ground work to get started | 09:09 |
| Tonio_ | jjesse: I'l be there on sunday evening | 09:10 |
| Riddell | jjesse: make sure to svn update, I've done quite a few changes today | 09:10 |
| jjesse | i did already | 09:10 |
| Tonio_ | if you have anything to be done, PLEASE ask !!! | 09:10 |
| Tonio_ | that would keep me alive ! | 09:10 |
| jjesse | i almost have the docs moved dropping the k | 09:11 |
| Tonio_ | I also can make translation | 09:11 |
| jpatrick | Tonio_: Rosseta | 09:12 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: no internet access !!! | 09:12 |
| jpatrick | damn | 09:12 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: yep :) | 09:12 |
| Tonio_ | packaging without internet access is also not possible......... | 09:13 |
| jjesse | Riddell: svn up should get the docs w/ k's | 09:13 |
| jpatrick | Tonio_: unless you send the package by snail mail (on a floppy etc) | 09:14 |
| Tonio_ | jpatrick: well internet is necessary to get informations, checking which packages are required | 09:14 |
| Tonio_ | and also, pbuilder without internet is limited unless I have all in the cache | 09:15 |
| Tonio_ | documentation is the only thing I can do, but I'd like to ;) | 09:16 |
| allee | Riddell: okay to add REVU and wnpp to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingKubuntu to resources to check for pkging work under way? | 09:16 |
| Riddell | allee: please do | 09:16 |
| allee | 'k. I'll make a list out of it. the sentense is already quite long | 09:17 |
| Riddell | allee: add wnpp to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuSuggestedPackages | 09:17 |
| Riddell | allee: what does wnpp stand for? | 09:17 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: ah now I have a diff.gz and a orig.tar.gz :) | 09:17 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: awooga | 09:17 |
| allee | wnpp is the pseudo pkg in bugs.debian.org used to organize pkging effort (Work Needing and Prospective Packages AFAIR) | 09:18 |
| allee | Riddell: http://bugs.debian.org/wnpp | 09:19 |
| === jpatrick wonders if ksplash-engine-moodin_0.4.2 was the right thing to call it | ||
| Riddell | allee: I know what it is, just didn't know what it stood for. quite a cryptic name | 09:19 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: looks good | 09:19 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: let me know when you want me to review it | 09:19 |
| allee | Riddell: heh! quite true | 09:19 |
| jpatrick | ksplash-engine-moodin_0.4.2.orig is not <package>-<upstreamversion> (wanted ksplash-engine-moodin-0.4.2.orig) | 09:20 |
| jpatrick | Did say that^ | 09:20 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: hmm | 09:23 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: .orig should be ksplash-engine-moodin_0.4.2.orig.tar.gz | 09:23 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: directory should be ksplash-engine-moodin-0.4.2 | 09:24 |
| Riddell | ** flight-1 testers please http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20051118.2/ | 09:29 |
| jjesse | whats a flight testor? | 09:29 |
| Riddell | jjesse: flight is the name of the occational dapper testing CDs | 09:31 |
| Riddell | a flight is the collective noun for dragons | 09:31 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: downloading | 09:31 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: what arch? | 09:31 |
| Tonio_ | i386 | 09:31 |
| Riddell | cool | 09:31 |
| Riddell | I'll do amd64 then | 09:32 |
| Riddell | don't suppose we have any ppc users here? | 09:32 |
| === Riddell eyes up amu | ||
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: necessary to test install cd or is there a livecd ? | 09:33 |
| jjesse | downloading i386 | 09:35 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: live CD is building stilL | 09:35 |
| Riddell | still | 09:35 |
| Riddell | jjesse: excellent | 09:35 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay, so testing the installcd | 09:36 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: okay | 09:36 |
| Riddell | jjesse: who's the server guide dude again? | 09:37 |
| jjesse | Riddell: bhurvan or something like | 09:37 |
| Riddell | ah yes, we need to ask him not to use xinclude since kde doesn't like that | 09:37 |
| jjesse | his name should be on w.u.c/ServerGuide | 09:37 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: is this what the copyright should look like? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/434649 | 09:38 |
| jpatrick | keeps saying: old-fsf-address-in-copyright-file | 09:39 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: just remove last paragraph with address in it, it's not necessary | 09:40 |
| jpatrick | last two lines going off | 09:40 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: no, the one before that | 09:40 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: you also need a part saying who owns the copyright (C) Copyright Christian Leh <moodwrod@web.de> 2005 | 09:41 |
| jpatrick | http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/434654 ? | 09:42 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: keep the last paragraph as you had it before, remove the paragraph with the FSF address in it | 09:43 |
| Riddell | add a blank line after the (C) line | 09:44 |
| jpatrick | ah okay | 09:44 |
| jpatrick | I guess that's fixed all the errors you found | 09:46 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: only problem now: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath | 10:03 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: amd64? | 10:03 |
| jpatrick | no i386 | 10:03 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: cdbs? | 10:03 |
| jpatrick | ... | 10:04 |
| jpatrick | don't think so | 10:04 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: then add --disable-rpath to the ./configure options | 10:04 |
| jpatrick | that's fixed | 10:06 |
| jpatrick | I suppose unknown-section universe/kde doesn't count | 10:06 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: just set it to kde | 10:06 |
| jpatrick | done | 10:07 |
| jpatrick | lintian reports nothing now | 10:17 |
| jpatrick | Error '553 Could not create file.' during ftp transfer of ksplash-engine-moodin_0.4.2-0ubuntu1.dsc | 10:18 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: uploading to revu? | 10:20 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: yep | 10:20 |
| Riddell | maybe he's run out of disk space | 10:21 |
| jpatrick | oh dear | 10:21 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: poke siretat | 10:21 |
| jpatrick | he appears to be away | 10:22 |
| jpatrick | (according to Konversation) | 10:22 |
| jjesse | Riddell: are you going to be changing the make file? | 10:31 |
| jjesse | for kde docs? | 10:31 |
| jjesse | kubuntu i meant | 10:31 |
| Riddell | jjesse: in which respect? | 10:32 |
| jjesse | Riddell: because the docs are no longer kfaqguide etc or should i do that? | 10:32 |
| Riddell | jjesse: I have some changes to commit in a minute, could you do it after? | 10:32 |
| jjesse | sure can i commited the changes to docs to remove the k from them all so svn up | 10:33 |
| Riddell | jjesse: committed | 10:35 |
| Riddell | jjesse: after this weekend do you think we'll be able to svn remove the obsolete docs? | 10:36 |
| jjesse | Riddell: sure | 10:36 |
| Riddell | groovy | 10:36 |
| Riddell | http://www.bbc.co.uk/pudsey/appealnight/doctor_who_special.shtml new doctor who! woo! | 10:37 |
| Riddell | dinner, doctor who, flight testing | 10:38 |
| jjesse | dinner new harry potter movie :) | 10:40 |
| === jpatrick needs to get British satelite TV | ||
| Riddell | jpatrick: whatever for? | 10:49 |
| Riddell | jjesse: that's out today? | 10:49 |
| jjesse | in the US it is | 10:50 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: watch British shows ? | 10:50 |
| jpatrick | Not a lot of good television in Spain :| | 10:51 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: uknova :) | 10:52 |
| Riddell | not that I even have a TV but | 10:52 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: I can't believe it's not television! | 10:53 |
| Riddell | ** install CDs are being remade, don't test current ones (but download so an rsync can happen) | 10:56 |
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| jjesse | does this flight have kde3.5 on it? | 10:58 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: thanks for uknova thing. Even then I won't have sound :( | 11:00 |
| jpatrick | bedtime now | 11:01 |
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| jmg | hey all | 11:16 |
| jmg | is it safe/smart for me to be upgrading to 3.5rc1? | 11:16 |
| jmg | or even useful? :)P | 11:18 |
| Riddell | jmg: yes, I'm running it no problem | 11:19 |
| Riddell | jmg: it's very useful so long as you report back to me if it works or not | 11:19 |
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| jmg | Riddell: whats the sources line for it | 11:20 |
| Riddell | jmg: see kubuntu.org/announcements | 11:20 |
| jmg | Riddell: i may upload an emacs cvs package soon (emacs22), huge python enhancements | 11:20 |
| jmg | Riddell: thansk | 11:21 |
| jmg | Riddell: more useful to be using breezy and fixing/reporting bugs or Dapper? | 11:26 |
| Riddell | jmg: test the flight-1 CD | 11:27 |
| jmg | Cds suck :P | 11:27 |
| Riddell | jmg: should appear soon at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/ as 20051118..3/ | 11:27 |
| jmg | pxe represent :) | 11:27 |
| Riddell | jmg: well dapper in that case, but dapper doesn't have kde 3.5 rc1 yet | 11:27 |
| jmg | Riddell: rgr rgr | 11:28 |
| jmg | Riddell: what is flight-1 | 11:28 |
| jmg | ? | 11:28 |
| Riddell | jmg: it's the first testing CD from dapper | 11:28 |
| jmg | Riddell: flight of drakes? | 11:28 |
| Riddell | yep :) | 11:28 |
| jmg | now i get it :) | 11:29 |
| jmg | where do the names of the releases come from? some book? | 11:29 |
| === jmg tried to find this out before, but couldnt | ||
| Riddell | Mark makes them up, someone tells him not to be so silly and he comes but with a more sane one | 11:29 |
| === jmg is waiting for Orange Owl | ||
| jmg | :) | 11:30 |
| Riddell | jmg: they're alphabetical now, may take some time | 11:30 |
| jmg | Riddell: is a drake a real animal? | 11:30 |
| jmg | some type of flying lizard? | 11:31 |
| Riddell | jmg: it's a species of dragon | 11:31 |
| jmg | Riddell: fire drakes were little lizards in the dragons of pern | 11:31 |
| jmg | Riddell: that they engineered into the dragons | 11:32 |
| Riddell | dragons of pern? | 11:32 |
| jmg | yup, Anne Mccaffrey | 11:32 |
| jmg | pretty cool series... starts off sci fi, moves into fantasy and then back to sci fi | 11:32 |
| jmg | i havent seen anyone do that since... pretty unique | 11:33 |
| jmg | they use genetic engineering... and then things get all twisted and the geneering becomes almost magic | 11:34 |
| jmg | but at the end they find their ships crashed AI core who tells them how to beat the Thread (bad guys) | 11:34 |
| jmg | and it goes back to sci fi again :) | 11:35 |
| jmg | 67% | 11:35 |
| Riddell | jmg: of what? | 11:36 |
| jmg | Riddell: dist-upgrade | 11:49 |
| Riddell | jmg: to dapper or 3.5? | 11:49 |
| jmg | 3.5 | 11:49 |
| jmg | if 3.5 fucks this box... ill install dapper :) | 11:49 |
| jmg | Riddell: kdegraphics: Depends: kamera (>= 4:3.5-rc1-1ubuntu0breezy1) but it is not going to be installed | 11:59 |
| jmg | Riddell: BRB | 11:59 |
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