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mhzhi all12:18
mhzI have seen some pages and still can't find the place to file a bug12:18
mhzhttps://launchpad.net/malone12:18
mhzI want to file a bug related to LaunchPad12:19
mhznot to other aps.12:19
mhzany hint?12:19
sivangmhz: you mean, you want to find a "prodct" per rosetta/malone/etc ?12:22
sivangmhz: currently I think, you have to file it just against "launchpad" and assign it to the person who's responsible to the piece of module you are opening the bug against12:24
mhzooooh, ok12:26
mhzsivang: when choosong package name, i ge to 'select SourcePackageName'12:27
mhzand I get launchpad-integration12:27
mhznot just launchpad12:27
mhzis it the same?12:27
sivangmhz: can you send me a link?12:32
mhzsure12:32
mhzw812:33
mhzsivang: 1st) https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/+package12:34
mhzthere, I press choose at Source Package Name12:35
mhzand if i understand correctly, I type launchpad12:36
mhzthen, I only get launchpad-integration12:36
lifelessright12:37
lifelesslaunchpad is not packaged.12:37
mhzI imagined12:37
lifelessso you can't file bugs against it from there.12:38
mhzthen how do I file a bug related to it?12:38
lifelesshttps://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bugs12:38
mhzlifeless: yhx12:38
mhzthx12:38
ddaalifeless: I sent merge request for sftp://chinstrap.warthogs.hbd.com12:38
mhzi was getting dizzy 12:38
mhz:)12:39
ddaaThat has apparently worked for launchpad.12:39
ddaa(though there were conflicts)12:39
lifelessddaa: that wont work. it has to be chinstrap.ubuntu.com12:39
ddaaWhy should it fail for pybaz?12:39
ddaaMh12:39
ddaaright, the address for launchpad was on ubunt.com12:39
sivangmdz: " Report a bug about A set of Bugs" ?12:40
sivangoops12:40
sivangthat was for mhz 12:40
sivangmhz: what's that gotta do with launchpad-integration?12:42
mhzsivang: 12:43
mhznothing to do with it12:43
mhzsivang:  launchpad-integration12:44
mhzsorry12:44
mhzsivang:  Bug #458612:44
UbugtuMalone bug #4586: Many ubuntu related actions/work are not being tracked Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/458612:44
mhzLOL!!! Ubugtu12:44
mhzgood work12:45
ddaabug #100012:47
UbugtuMalone bug #1000: There are too many bug reports in Malone Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: Rejected http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/100012:47
niemeyerddaa: Hey12:55
niemeyerddaa: The branch is merged12:56
niemeyerddaa: Just have to send to pqm now12:56
ddaaniemeyer: cool what was it?12:56
ddaaI'm waiting for the merge here as well, as I just came back (and about to go to deb)12:57
niemeyerddaa: Just simple stuff.. .bzrignore, and harness.py was changed in both places.12:57
niemeyerBut not in an incompatible way..12:57
Nafallohehe, deb ;-)12:57
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niemeyerddaa: How to submit that for pqm?12:58
=== niemeyer looks in the launchpad wiki
ddaahttps://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/PQMSetup12:58
ddaathe .bzr/parent must be sftp://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/path/to/landing/target and the .bzr/x-pull-data must be set properly to the rsync target (what to merge from).12:59
ddaaniemeyer: I must go to bed now.12:59
ddaaThanks. In case you do not manage to do the pqm thing, I'll do it tomorrow first thing.01:00
ddaathe postfix configuration is very important01:00
ddaabecause pqm is so stupid01:01
ddaaI set the mail host name here to "allouche.net", and since my login on my workstation is "david", and the authorized user to pqm is david@allouche.net, it works.01:01
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lifelessheh01:06
lifelessI so love ignorance-is-bliss01:06
bob2beats a pie in the face01:06
lifelessthe authorised user comes out of the gpg signature, has nothing to do with the mail config01:06
lifelessthe mail config is solely for sending the feedback emails.01:07
lifelessbob2: :)01:07
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lifelessyup01:07
lifelessthe spec does say that.01:07
niemeyerlifeless: Is there any other document explaining the PQM interface?01:11
niemeyerlifeless: Also, am I allowed to request merges?01:11
lifelesshave you completed the PQMSetup instructions ?01:13
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niemeyer:-)01:13
lifelessif not, then no.01:13
niemeyerlifeless: Yes, I did.. but long ago01:13
lifelessthere is the pqm manual, and source at http://people.ubuntu.com/~robertc/pqm/trunk01:14
niemeyerlifeless: And never received an answer from you about my gpg key01:14
niemeyerlifeless: So I guess not.01:14
niemeyerHeh.. I just removed an old PQM arch tree I had around, thinking "Humm.. at that point Robert must have it under bzr"01:15
niemeyerI'm glad to have guessed right :)01:15
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niemeyerlifeless: So, have you register my gpg key as allowed for submissions?01:21
niemeyerregistered01:21
niemeyerlifeless: Should I resend it?01:21
lifelessuna momento01:21
lifelesswhats your key id ?01:24
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lifelessniemeyer: you did not include that in your email01:25
lifelessnor your fingerprint. tsk.01:25
niemeyerlifeless: Well, I included the key itself..01:25
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lifelessniemeyer: so, what is the key id ?01:25
niemeyer66643A0C01:26
lifelessthanks01:26
lifelessok01:27
lifelessyou are now in the canonical group01:27
niemeyerThanks!01:29
niemeyerSo, what the merge request URL looks like? sftp://...?01:30
niemeyerlifeless: ^01:31
lifelessthe script should generate it correctly, if your parent is set (to sftp://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/home/w...), and your public copy is set correctly (via x-push-)01:31
niemeyerlifeless: I'll create the email by hand..01:32
lifelesswhy ?01:32
niemeyerlifeless: I'm not using push (rsync).. my postfix has its own custom configuration..01:32
lifelessuhm,. So the push we use is rsync ;). 01:33
niemeyerlifeless: And it's more interesting to see how things work by starting that way.01:33
lifelessany good postfix config will work correctly, its only broken ones where sender: cannot recieve replies that are problematic.01:33
lifelessbut up to you.01:33
lifelessif you want to fiddle, just use the script 'submit-bzr-merge 'test' gustavo@niemeyer.net'01:34
niemeyerlifeless: Will bzr push rsync://... work correctly if there are nested trees?01:36
lifelessit onyl pushes the current tree01:36
lifelessi.e. it ignores the nested trees.01:36
niemeyerNice01:36
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Burgundaviahow can I delete items on the calendar?05:31
Burgundaviaand more importantly, should the admin of a group not have complete access over the calendar? (I am getting an permissions error on the doc team calendar)05:32
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lifelessSteveA: ping08:28
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SteveAlifeless: hi09:21
SteveAlifeless: around?09:38
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carlosmorning09:42
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carlosSteveA, hi, morning10:12
carlosSteveA, I need that someone reviews TranslationUploads implementation10:13
carlosSteveA, we need it for dapper import into launchpad10:13
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SteveAcarlos: mail me, and i will do it later today10:31
carlosSteveA, ok, thanks10:31
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SteveAddaa: hello10:59
ddaaHey SteveA10:59
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SteveAddaa: i want to arrange a meeting to talk about bzr launchpad branch stuff, with you and lifeless.  can we do monday morning?11:01
ddaaFor a relatively late value of morning.11:02
SteveAthe times available are monday morning or wednesday morning11:02
ddaaI'd prefer early afternoon, say 2pm.11:03
ddaaThat... 1300 UTC11:03
SteveAthat won't work for lifeless11:03
ddaaThen, I can arrange to be there.11:03
ddaamonday morning, say, 0900 UTC?11:04
SteveAi think 1000 UTC would be okay11:04
SteveAshall we say monday, 1000 UTC?11:04
ddaaDeal.11:04
SteveAokay. i'll mail.11:04
ddaaBTW, any news on the asterix-at-DC front?11:05
ddaaI'm still for comfortable with chat, but voice as an addition could be nice for this sort of meeting.11:06
ddaa* still more comfortable11:06
SteveAno news11:06
ddaaSteveA: do you have an agenda for the meeting?11:08
ddaaI'd like to be able to think a bit about it in advance.11:09
SteveAtalk about the launchpad / supermirror / bzr end of things11:13
SteveAand establish how all the moving parts fit together, and who is responsible for what11:13
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ddaaMh... I guess I will figure out what this kind of meeting is about :)11:15
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ddaalifeless, SteveA: PQM appears frozen again11:58
ddaaPlease kick it up or something, that's blocking BranchDataStorage :(11:59
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matsubaragood morning!12:11
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ddaaHey matsubara12:15
ddaaI saw that you have a merge request in PQM12:16
ddaaunfortunately, it has gone catatonic again.12:16
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WellarkHi12:20
matsubaraddaa: salgado will take care of it, I hope. :)12:21
ddaaApparently Znarl will do. At least he acked my request on #canonical12:22
Wellarktranslation tool for breezy is missing some projects12:22
Wellarklibgksu and libgksuui12:22
Wellarkthey are included for hoary but not for breezy12:23
carlosWellark, hi12:23
Wellarkwho has the power to add projects to distributions in launchpad?12:23
carlosWellark, I'm a Rosetta developer12:24
carloslet me check12:24
Wellarkthanks!12:24
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carlosWellark, is https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+sources/gksu/+translations what you are looking for?12:25
Wellarkno, it is not12:26
Wellarkto fully translate the dialog that is shown for example when you launc synaptic you also need libgksuui package to be translated12:27
carlosWellark, sorry, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+source/libgksu1.2/+translations12:27
Wellarkyeah, and that too :)12:27
Wellarkso breezy is missing 'libgksuui' and 'libgksu'12:28
carlosWellark, ?12:28
carlosWellark, I gave you already libgksu, right?12:28
Wellarkoh yeah12:28
Wellarkthat's right12:29
carlosWellark, and the other: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+sources/libgksuui1.0/+translations12:29
carlosI will fix the 'review' templates now.12:29
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Wellarkcarlos: thank you very much :)12:30
Wellarkif notice that something else is missing should I just come bugging you here or what?12:30
carlosWellark, file a bug or ping me here12:32
carlosanyway, those were not missing, it's just that the navigation is not as good as it should...12:32
\shhmmm...12:32
Wellarkok. thanks.12:32
\shdid canonical trandmarked launchpad? (the Name?)12:33
\shi'm asking because of launchpad.com ;)12:34
carlos\sh, I think they were there before us12:39
\shcarlos: I just stumbled across while I was using the wrong tld for launchpad ... but ok12:41
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BjornTis there any bzr equivalent to 'baz diff $rocketfuel'? i.e only comparing up to the rf revision that is merged into my branch?01:31
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ddaaBjornT: I do not think so01:47
ddaaI can imagine what would be the syntax though01:48
ddaasomething like "bzr diff --merged $upstream"01:50
BjornTddaa: ok. do you know if i can specify a specific revno when using -r branch:... ? i seem to recall some syntax to specify a revno, but the bzr documentation is somewhat lacking....01:50
ddaaRight now, you can examine the log, get the revid of the first nested revision in the latest merge, and do "bzr diff -r revid:$REVID"01:51
ddaaoh yes01:51
ddaafor a revno, it's just "bzr diff -r $REVNO"01:51
ddaahu... shit it appears that the current packaged bzr cannot specify a branch in diff...01:52
BjornTbut will that work if i: branch -> hack some -> merge -> hack some more? i.e, i want to see both the 'hack some' and 'hack some more' changes01:52
ddaaI think the "bzr diff -r revid:$REVID" thing would work right. The annoyance is that you have to find the revid by hand.01:53
ddaaThat could be automated, with a "--merged $BRANCH" option that find the latest entry of $BRANCH's revision-history which is an ancestor of the current revision.01:54
ddaaFeel free to bounce that idea to the bzr folks.01:54
ddaaThat should not be a very difficult feature to implement. Probably an afternoon's hack for somebody not familiar with the code.01:55
BjornTyeah, i'll do that later, i used it quite often with baz. thanks01:57
BjornTyeah, if i'm bored this weekend i might try to implement it myself. it'd be a good way of learning more how bzr works02:00
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ginohello good morning 02:30
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stubThat pqm kill doesn't seem to have taken... I'll have a look02:41
ddaastub: thanks02:42
stubddaa: I've run out of things to try. arch-pqm --run appears to be silently doing nothing. Perhaps a lock file somewhere, so it thinks things are still running. But I don't know where it would be.02:52
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stubddaa: I think that has clear it (found the log file and a lock file)03:25
stubc/clear/cleared03:25
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stubOr maybe not :-(03:27
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salgadoI can't merge from rocketfuel. always get an "bzr: ERROR: exceptions.IndexError: string index out of range". can this be related to the bzr version?03:49
ddaastub: at least niemeyer's merge request is now off the queue03:52
ddaaso, if you hear a huge grinding noise, don't worry, it's just bzr merging the branches patch :)03:53
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bradbwow04:31
bradbit's amazing how re-installing gnome-panel can fix really arcane gnome problems04:31
bradbmy power cord wasn't properly plugged in last night, so my computer ran out of juice during the night04:31
bradbtried logging into gdm, and all i saw was brown04:32
bradblynx'ing to google.ca would give a 400, bad request04:32
bradbcouldn't even connect to IRC (i.e. trying this through a failsafe gnome term)04:32
bradbreinstall gnome-panel, and i am reborn04:32
zyga_since launchpad is written in python I'll ask this here04:38
zyga_I've installed libapache-mod-python2.4 and I cannot really get past the hello-world test, is this a bug or should I keep googling04:38
carloszyga_, launchpad is not using libapache-mod-python2.404:40
carloszyga_, we use zope04:40
carloszyga_, anyway, I have a friend that is using Ubuntu's mod-python2.4 without problems04:40
zyga_on apache 1.3 or 2 ?04:40
carlosso it's not a bug (at least I don't think so)04:40
carlos204:40
zyga_hmm I'm trying this on 104:40
zyga_I keep getting  python_handler: make_obcallback returned no obCallBack!04:41
bradbstub: TestRequest doesn't appear to work with browser notifications (e.g. self.request.response.addNotification == AttributeError...this happens in bugattachments.txt, for example, because it tests views). any quick suggestions on a simple way to fix this?04:41
stubbradb: We will need to extend it in the same way we needed to extend HTTPRequest to implement the notifications04:44
bradbok04:44
zyga_carlos: I also noticed this in my logs04:44
zyga_make_obcallback(): could not import mod_python.apache.04:45
zyga_make_obcallback(): could not call init.04:45
stubbradb: webapp/tests/test_notification might be a help (or not...)04:46
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stubbradb: In fact, we just might need to make TestRequest adaptable to INotificationRequest04:47
stubThe MockSession and adapters in test_notification.py can be reused04:48
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salgadohey SteveA. I replied to your code review, have you seen it?05:02
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salgado-lunchbrb05:03
SteveAsalgado-lunch: ok.  there's a shipit issue i want to talk about05:04
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salgadoSteveA, wanna talk now?05:05
bradbstub: thanks for the pointers, I'm looking around the code a bit. elsewhere, will X-Malone-Bug get rolled out on tuesday? it's revno 2835.05:06
SteveAbradb: i think it should be X-Launchpad-Bug05:07
stubbradb: Yes05:07
SteveAwhen we have the issue tracker with email support, will we have X-IssueTracker-Issue ?05:07
SteveAit is silly.  so, we should have X-Launchpad-KindOfThing as the header names to use05:08
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SteveAi don't disagree05:08
SteveAbut this way, when the app names change on various whims, we have less software to update05:09
bradbi'd hesitate slight to make a change to X-Malone-Bug. it's in an approved spec already, and we don't have any other X- headers for other apps yet, AFAIK.05:10
bradbs/slight/slightly/05:10
SteveAsalgado: do we still have this issue that when people come to shipit they get directed to get a launchpad account, and then don't get guided back to shipit?05:10
SteveAbradb: sorry i didn't read the spec sooner05:10
SteveAi don't want to have to change this later, when people already have mail filters set05:11
bradbSteveA: it's in https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/InitialBugContacts05:11
salgadoSteveA, yes, we still have this issue05:11
SteveAbradb: the header will often contain distro and people and product details.  it should be called X-Launchpad-Bug05:12
salgadoSteveA, I tried to get you to review https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/ProperSignUpWorkflow at UBZ, but I couldn't as I wrote it in the last days. IIRC, kiko reviewed it05:12
SteveAsalgado: there's a spec!  that's great.  let me read it...05:13
SteveAalthough, i'll do that code review for carlos first05:13
bradbSteveA: ok, i'll change it05:14
carlosSteveA, thanks!05:14
SteveAsalgado: i'd say don't use the referer header.  make it an explicit query string parameter.  i need to think about this a little more though.05:15
SteveAcan we talk about this a bit later?05:15
SteveAbradb: thank you.05:15
salgadoSteveA, sure05:16
SteveAjamesh: what happened to the diffs on https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~jamesh/pending-reviews/ ?05:19
salgadoSteveA, I can't merge from rocketfuel since this morning. maybe this is not a problem only with me..05:20
SteveAcarlos: can you get me a diff to review?05:21
carlosSteveA, yes05:21
carlosjust a second...05:21
bradbsalgado: i have no problem merging from rocketfuel05:22
bradbi rsync down the pre-built tree and do a local merge05:22
salgadobradb, would you try a merge from sftp://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/home/warthogs/archives/rocketfuel/launchpad/devel?05:24
=== salgado will do that on rocketfuel
salgadochinstrap, I mean05:25
bradbsalgado: I'd strongly recommend the pre-built tree option, tbh.05:25
bradbi've just sync'd up my two current working trees to my local copy of rf05:25
carlosSteveA, sent to your mailbox05:26
SteveAthanks carlos05:28
bradbsalgado: 05:29
bradbbradb@oxygen:~/canonical/malone-feedback-messages $ bzr merge sftp://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/home/warthogs/archives/rocketfuel/launchpad/devel05:29
bradbSSH id_dsa password:05:29
bradbbzr: ERROR: Channel request for unknown channel 105:29
bradbNothing to do.05:29
BjornTbradb: do you know how often the pre-built tree get rebuilt? it doesn't seem to contain the latest patch, which was commited more than 10 hours ago05:29
bradbevery half hour05:29
bradbby the way, by "pre-built" i meant that it has all the dep trees inside it, not that it's "pre-built" with make05:30
salgadobradb, are you using bzr from jbailey's repo?05:30
bradbyeah05:31
bradbjust updated05:31
bradbabout an hour ago05:31
SteveAthe launchpad team should generally be using the "integration" packages from jbailey05:31
BjornTso, who can check what's wrong with the launchpad tree?05:32
salgadoBjornT, I guess the same person that can check what's wrong with pqm. lifeless 05:32
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salgadoaha. it failed in rocketfuel too05:37
salgadoBjornT, https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/file53b1Kj.html05:38
salgadoBjornT, would you add that to your email too? :)05:38
BjornTsalgado: yeah, branch fails as well05:38
BjornTand pull05:39
salgadoreally? I branched (on chinstrap) this morning and it worked fine. this is weird...05:39
BjornTyeah. it could be ddaa's branch that caused this (ddaa: wasn't it something strange with your branch?). branch fails with HistoryMissing05:42
jbaileySteveA: The -integration branch isn't tested with abently's bzrtools.  Dunno if that's a concern for you or not.05:42
SteveAlifeless has asked that the launchpad team use the integration branch05:42
SteveAso we test the latest fixes05:42
ddaaBjornT: what with my branch?05:42
ddaaIt's not landed yet in rocketfuel05:43
SteveAcan you set it up to run the tests before making the packages, and not make them if tests fail?05:43
ddaaAFAIK it's currently the chunk clogging PQM05:43
ddaaoh, right everybody is complaining about that ATM05:44
ddaawas working for me yesterday... not tried since then.05:44
BjornTddaa: will "Rev 2836: [r=SteveA]  Merging bzr branch support in.." did land, which seems to include your branch05:44
BjornTs/will/well/05:44
ddaaBjornT: really?05:45
BjornTddaa: yeah05:45
jbaileySteveA: That already happens.05:46
jbaileySteveA: The only cases where the selftests don't really catch things are when things are compiled on install.05:47
jbaileySteveA: A bit of code in something that's not used as part of the build/selftest can kill it at install time.05:47
SteveAthat's fine then.  thank you05:48
SteveAlifeless has a "very conservative" bzr branch that can be used for recovering things if the integration branch screws up05:48
jbaileyIs it called "releases"? =)05:49
SteveAit is releases + special launchpadding love05:50
jbaileyThe dapper archive now has 0.6.2 in it, and I plan to keep it quite up to date.  We could probably ask the backports folks to make sure that it's available for breezy if y'all aren't crazy enough to run dapper. =)05:50
SteveAthe launchpad folks have a special line in sources.list.  i think that's fine for now.05:51
SteveAbut, having a recent bzr in backports would be good for getting other folks to try out the recent improvements05:51
ddaaBjornT: apparently it has not made it into the rocketfuel-built tree...05:52
BjornTddaa: yeah, which might be because merging/pulling/branching from the rocketfuel tree doesn't work...05:53
ddaaWell, bzr log on archives/rocketfuel/launchpad/devel gives that funny IndexError after the log for 2835, and bzr revno there says 283505:55
ddaaI have no idea where your 2836 comes from.05:55
BjornThmm05:55
=== BjornT checks again
BjornTalthough, arch-commits says it was merged05:55
stubThe launchpad tree issue would explain PQM being blocked.05:55
ddaaarch-commits?05:56
ddaawhat's that?05:56
salgadoddaa, http://rince.africaninspace.com/mailman/private/arch-commits/05:57
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BjornTddaa: the arch-commits mailing list05:57
ddaaThanks, I see... I do not think I heard of it before...05:58
elmoKinnison: around?06:03
Kinnisonelmo: Yes, barely06:03
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Kinnisonbut lying in bed is boring06:03
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elmoKinnison: ok, it's not urgent, but fyi mawson is down to 5G06:03
Kinnisonelmo: thanks06:03
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elmoit's got 272G in it's librarian dir06:04
stubI can clean that out if nobody needs to access the files in the Librarian06:06
Kinnisonon mawson? leave the librarian please06:06
KinnisonI'll look into it06:06
Kinnisonstub: I'd rather you used mawson as a test-bed for the librarian GC06:06
stubOh - assumed asuka. Sorry.06:07
SteveAKinnison: and you say "has signed coc" doesn't sound rude!06:08
bradblooks like a typo06:12
bradbDO YOU ACCEPT THE COC06:12
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KinnisonSteveA: Not when it's CoC06:14
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SteveAyou threatening to vandalize my existing coc tattoo ?06:15
Kinnisonnaah, just sign it :-)06:15
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bradbhm, it looks like pqm isn't even accepting new merge requests (i.e. i submitted one a while ago and it's not showing up in the queue)06:15
bradbheh06:15
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bradbonly partly successfully06:16
elmoargh06:27
elmobradb: pretty please with a cherry on top could malone explain WHY it's mailing me?06:27
elmoor bjornt or whoever06:27
bradbelmo: because you confirmed your email address and are in some way involved in one or more bugs somewhere.06:28
bradbelmo: if you want to delete them, you can filter on the Reply-To06:28
elmobradb: no, dude, I want malone to be useful06:28
elmoeven bugzilla manages this, AFAICR06:28
bradbelmo: the mail you received, what's it about?06:29
bradband to whom is it addressed?06:29
elmohttp://people.ubuntu.com/~james/tmp/mail.txt06:29
elmo(reload, updated)06:29
elmoeven a simple "You received this email because you're the assignee" or "the maintainer" or "in the CC list" or whatever, would help06:30
elmothese mails as they are just make me go "huh? wtf?" every time06:30
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bradbelmo: right, so what appears to be happening is this:06:31
bradbLaunchpad Admins are subscribed to #145806:31
bradbyou are a launchpad admin06:31
bradbthe lp admin team doesn't have an email address06:31
bradbso each member of that team receives a mail individually06:31
bradbthat's why you get the mail06:31
bradbthere are various ways we can make this suck less, of course.06:32
bradblike, tell you why you're getting the email.06:32
bradbelmo: given the context above, how would you prefer launchpad to behave when a change is made on that bug?06:33
bradbi'll add the explanation of why you're getting the mail right now06:34
elmob06:35
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elmoChanged in: Launchpad (upstream) Status: New => Accepted06:35
elmo(err, with a newline before Status)06:35
elmoI don't know how, but I feel that could be improved.  It's not obvious what "Changed in" refers to, for a start06:36
elmobut my main gripe is the "WTH am I getting this", if you're fix that, I'd be happy :)06:36
elmowould it be sane to maybe add the short description (or summary or whatever it's called) to the mail?  it'd mean I wouldn't have to fire up a web browser to work out what it's talking about06:38
elmoOTOH, maybe some people would find that redundant/annoying06:38
bradbthe bug "summary" is usually empty for bugs, but i'd agree that the bugmails generally don't contain enough context to figure out how what's going on06:39
bradbso, when a comment is made (particularly on an older bug, where one has already removed that thread from their Inbox), one often has to click on the URL in the mail to get enough context to make sense of things06:40
SteveAcarlos: i send you the first part of the code review.06:48
=== SteveA goes to the gym for exercise.
carlosSteveA, ok, thanks06:49
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bradbBjornT: can you think of any reason to not add a signature to every bugmail? (i.e. "-- \nYou are receiving this email because...")07:07
jblackGabriel Neuman: ping07:10
bradbaka, gneuman 07:14
ddaaSteveA: it looks very much like my branches borked rocketfuel and pqm somehow07:15
niemeyerddaa: Weren't they borked before?07:16
niemeyerddaa: I mean, wasn't it borked before?07:16
ddaabefore, pqm was borked like a cow with a leg missing07:16
ddaanow it's borked like a cow whose brains were shot out using an elephant gun07:17
niemeyerOh, that's quite borked indeed..07:17
niemeyer:-)07:17
ddaait's also very untidy07:18
bradbat least you have some control over a cow with a leg missing07:18
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gneumanbradb07:56
gneumansorry07:56
gneumanwas out07:56
gneumanj black07:56
gneumanpong07:56
gneumanjblack, 07:56
gneumantime out..07:57
jblackgneuman: I'm here. You're here. Life is good. :)07:57
gneuman=] 07:57
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jblackgneuman: We need to figure out which bzr you're using07:57
jblackcan you run bzr --version for me?07:57
gneumanyes07:57
gneumanbzr (bazaar-ng) 0.7pre07:58
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carlossee you07:59
jblackMind if I attach that to your bug, or you attach it?07:59
gneumanwahtever08:00
BjornTbradb: i think it's a good idea to add signatures to bugmail, i've already started adding signatures to the error messages that the incoming email interface produces08:02
bradbok, i'll do that then on my malone-bugmail-why-the-heck-am-i-getting-this branch08:03
bradbBjornT: Is there some doctestumentation I can read that demos what those sigs look like?08:06
BjornTbradb: you can look at emailtemplates/no-affects-target-on-submit.txt. but i'm not sure it will be useful, since that is an email you get when actively sending one yourself. general bugmail is different, since you can get it without doing anything.08:10
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bradbI just wanted to make sure that our footers are consistent08:11
BjornTbradb: yeah. feel free to change that footer if you need to.08:13
niemeyerHey, anyone knows who has write access to the shipit FAQ?08:23
matsubaraniemeyer: maybe salgado08:24
niemeyer(ubuntulinux.org/support/...)08:24
gneumanniemeyer, perhaps salgado, but he is out08:24
niemeyerOk.. thanks08:25
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salgadoniemeyer, I guess silbs has, and maybe hno73 too08:37
salgado(but I'm just guessing)08:37
niemeyersalgado: I've mailed Jane.. thanks!08:41
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niemeyerSee ya09:18
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thierryis it normal that I can't request fix upstream for some packages?09:26
thierryand I'd like to find every bug filed for lbreakout2 package... where do i go?09:27
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salgadothierry, why you can't request a fix upstream?09:30
thierrysalgado : because the package is not in the search list09:30
thierrysalgado : example here https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ghextris/+bug/461809:31
UbugtuMalone bug #4618: [PATCH]  ghextris absolute icon path problem Fix req. for: ghextris (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/461809:31
thierryI'd like to get a upstream fix for that but when I want to choose ghextris as upstream package, it's not in the search list09:31
bradbthierry: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/lbreakout2/+bugs to answer your second question09:31
thierrybradb : thanks09:32
bradbthierry: what's "upstream" to you?09:32
thierrybradb : well the next release like dapper but if it doesn't make dapper, it will make the next one... you know, the most recent changed package09:33
bradbthierry: that's how bugs work by default. i.e. they "slip" between releases if they don't get fixed.09:34
bradbwhen a bug is opened, it can optionally be targeted to be fixed in specific releases of a distribution09:35
bradbmainly for things like backporting09:35
bradbthere's also a forward-looking targeting mechanism: milestones. but before i get ahead of myself, IIUC, the default bug report behaviour does what you're asking.09:36
thierrybradb : k but seb128 told me that I should ask for a upstream fix in about all of the bugs I send about absolute icon path09:37
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bradbthierry: what page are you using to try and request the upstream fix?09:38
bradbi.e. what URL09:38
thierrythe choose menu of this one https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ghextris/+bug/4618/+upstreamtask09:39
UbugtuMalone bug #4618: [PATCH]  ghextris absolute icon path problem Fix req. for: ghextris (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: New http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/461809:39
bradbthierry: right, so not every project uses Malone.09:39
bradbthierry: if the upstream you're interested in isn't using Malone, you won't be able to request the fix upstream inside Malone.09:40
bradbif you don't find the upstream you're interested in on that page, that project is probably not using Launchpad09:41
thierrybradb : but it's only about a file in the package... what do I do then? ask a fix in dapper?09:42
bradbthierry: you don't have to do anything extra. by default bugs are reported in "the current release". if the developers don't get around to fixing them in the current release, the bugs will "slip" to the next release automatically.09:43
thierrycool09:43
thierrythanks09:43
bradbno prob09:43
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ddaaApparently, the problem with rocketfuel ATM is not caused by my data.09:49
ddaaI merged my patch into rocketfuel, then pulled on top of the previous revision, and it works.09:49
ddaaOr maybe the bug only appears in more convoluted cases.09:49
ddaaat least, it's clear that the archives/rocketfuel/launchpad/devel is corrupt.09:50
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bradbelmo: I have a fix that adds a useful (I hope) footer to the bugmail so I'll merge it the next time a window of time opens up where pqm is accepting patches. The fix will probably not make the cut for this Tuesday's rollout, but next Tuesday's it'll be in prod.10:18
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lifelesssomehow we've got a historymissing exception in lp10:43
lifelessfixing10:43
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mptlifeless, got a minute?10:53
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lifelessmpt: sure11:17
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mptlifeless, I was trying to work out the bzr equivalent of baz diff rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--011:21
mptbradb said it was bzr diff -r branch:/path/to/branch11:22
lifelessthats right11:22
lifelessexcept its not11:23
mptbut bzr diff -r branch:../archives/rocketfuel/launchpad produces a "no namespace registered" error11:23
lifeless:)11:23
lifelessbranch: gets the tip of the branch11:23
lifelessancestry: is more like what 'baz diff' does, it takes the current merge point instead.11:23
lifelesstry11:23
lifelessbzr diff -r ancestry:/home/mpt/archives/rocketfuel/launchpad11:23
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mptlifeless: same again: "bzr: ERROR: No namespace registered for string: u'ancestry:/home/mpt/hacking/archives/rocketfuel/launchpad'"11:25
lifelessancestor sorry11:26
lifelessnot ancestry11:26
mptah, that looks like it's doing something11:27
mptperhaps a couple more examples in the diff section of http://bazaar.canonical.com/IntroductionToBzr ?11:27
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mptthanks lifeless 11:28
mptNow I just need to work out why psycopg is crashing on startup11:28
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CosmoDadI've just created a launchpad account to contribute to Ubuntu's wiki. My username/password are not accepted, however, although I've finished the account creation process and both inputs are correct11:52
CosmoDadthe wiki login says "incorrect password", but I'm 100% sure it's correct11:53
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mptCosmoDad, so you can log in to Launchpad itself using the same password?11:57
CosmoDadmpt: yes I can. launchpad expects email address instead of user name, however.11:59
mpthmmm12:00
CosmoDadmpt: I just realized ubuntu wiki wants email as well but labels it "name"12:00
mptyyyyyeah12:00
mptthat could be better labelled12:00
mptdoes it work with your e-mail address? :-)12:01
CosmoDadmpt: it does12:01
mptso that's a bug in the design of our wiki installation, then12:01
mptunfortunately I don't know where such a bug should be reported12:02
CosmoDadmpt: Me neither. I'll check on that..12:03
sivangfunny, I got used to calling "name" for the email address :)12:03
CosmoDadmpt: thanks for asking me for working launchpad logon. That made me try the email address at the Ubuntu wiki12:03
CosmoDadsivang: what do you say for name then? :)12:04

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