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jsgotangcomorning12:38
jsgotangcomdke: still awake?12:41
judaxjsgotangco: HI12:56
jsgotangcohey judax how's things?12:58
judaxnot bad and you?12:58
jsgotangcojust about to start work heh12:59
judaxah, well, one must eat12:59
jsgotangcoheh yep01:00
jsgotangcoits fun though01:00
jsgotangcoi currently work for a small game company01:00
jsgotangcobrb01:04
judaxyeah, that would be VERY fun, I work for a boring company, but they write paychecks01:07
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jsgotangcohi02:46
mptho02:51
jsgotangcohi mpt 02:52
mgalvinhey guys03:05
jsgotangcohey mgalvin 03:33
jsgotangcobrb03:34
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jsgotangcore03:44
mgalvinhey jsgotangco03:45
jsgotangcohey mgalvin how's it going?03:46
mgalvinpretty good, same old. yourself?03:47
jsgotangconot bad, currently at work though (its almost 11am)03:47
mgalvintrying to get dapper installed for todays cds03:47
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mgalvin10pm here :)03:48
mgalvini think my cd-rw is bad, gotta buy some new ones tomorrow03:48
jsgotangcoahhh03:52
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Burgundaviajsgotangco, ping05:30
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Burgundaviahttp://img493.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotubuntudvdcoversvgink.png05:55
Burgundaviarobitaille, ^05:56
robitaillenice05:57
Burgundaviathe best part abut svg is that we can get it translated, as it simply xml05:58
robitailleis it for dvds, or cds, or both?05:58
Burgundaviaa dvd cover05:59
robitailleso maybe the 2 references to "CD" should be changed to "DVD" in the text?06:00
Burgundaviait would be a cd in a dvd case06:00
Burgundaviathe idea would be that we would get them into library catalogues06:01
robitailleok.  that explain06:01
Burgundaviagrrr06:01
Burgundaviathe bloody linux for human beings in the logo is not text06:01
Burgundaviaso the non-english versions will need to change which logo they use06:02
robitaillethat's exactly why the gnome-splash image remove the slogan between Hoary and Breezy:  because non-english speaker didn't like the english at every login :)06:05
Burgundaviaya06:05
Burgundaviathe font is quite odd06:07
Burgundaviait is almost arial, but not quite06:07
Burgundaviahmm, now that works06:08
Burgundaviarobitaille, the doc team calendar in LP is wrong06:11
rob1mdke_, it takes about 40 seconds if that on my pc06:11
robitailleBurgundavia,  wrong in which sense?06:16
=== robitaille should look at that calendar
Burgundaviarobitaille, time06:17
robitailleyep I see that.  but only you and jsgotangco  can change it :)06:17
Burgundaviaactually I can't06:17
Burgundaviathere doesn't appear to be a way to edit the calendar06:17
Burgundaviaand I cannot add new things06:17
Burgundaviasays permission denied06:18
robitaillebut you are an admin?06:18
Burgundaviadon't ask me06:19
Burgundaviayes, I am an admin06:19
robitaillejsgotangco,  ping06:19
BurgundaviaI really need a good place to store my images06:19
robitailleshaw?06:20
robitailleflickr?06:20
robitaillethe wiki?06:20
Burgundaviaya06:21
Burgundaviaeventually I am going to get my own webspace06:21
Burgundaviawell, I just emailed Mark, silbs and mdy about getting artwork in SVG06:22
robitailleI store my pictures on my home PC, and serve it to the "world" (i.,e my family) using Gallery06:22
Burgundaviaick, PHP06:23
robitailleit works, and I password-restrict to some IPs06:23
Burgundaviaah, that is ok06:23
robitaillea lot of people seems to use flickr, but I have some personal problem at entrusting yahoo with all my personal pictures (and I hate the interface)06:24
robitailleBurgundavia,  does this one works for you:  https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-doc/+calendar/events/513/+edit06:28
jsgotangcohey06:39
jsgotangcosorry i went out for lunch06:39
jsgotangcowhat's up with the calendar?06:39
robitaillejsgotangco,  it is at the wrong time for the next meeting06:43
Burgundavia Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page.06:43
robitailleaccording to LP, the meeting is in 15min :)06:44
jsgotangcostrange06:45
jsgotangcocould it be my timezone?06:45
robitailleprobably06:45
Burgundavialikely06:45
BurgundaviaI think LP wants things in UTC06:45
jsgotangcook then it sould be around 22:00 in my area then06:46
robitaillei thought LP wants things in the timezone in your profile06:46
jsgotangcowhat time is our meeting again?06:46
Burgundavia14:00 utc06:46
Burgundavia6 bloody am06:46
jsgotangcomaybe i should change the team's date profile then06:48
jsgotangcoif its possible06:48
Burgundaviahmm06:48
Burgundaviacan you figure out why I can't edit the calendar either?06:48
jsgotangcono idea06:48
=== Burgundavia wonders how he ended up as an admin for the doc team in LP
jsgotangcobecause i asked you06:48
jsgotangco?06:48
jsgotangcoand you said "its ok"06:48
Burgundaviadid you?06:48
jsgotangcoi did06:49
Burgundaviaah, thats ok then06:49
jsgotangcoyou probably still had ubz hangover back then06:49
Burgundaviain other news, http://img493.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotubuntudvdcoversvgink.png06:49
Burgundaviaan dvd cover modelled on the cd cover06:49
jsgotangcobloody hell now it says the meeting on my side is at 5am06:49
jsgotangcocan you check the lp calendar now on the team06:49
Burgundaviacurrent says the correct time for me06:50
Burgundaviajsgotangco, you got your timezone settings right in LP?06:50
jsgotangcook so it depends on MY time06:50
=== mpt ph3ars the launchpad calendar
jsgotangco14:00UTC is 22:00UTC on my side06:50
=== jsgotangco wished it just assumed UTC
robitaillehttps://launchpad.net/products/launchpad-cal/+bug/255706:51
Burgundaviaholy crap that bug is old06:51
jsgotangcoyes so it depends on the owner's timezone then06:51
MadpilotBurgundavia: the DVD cover looks good06:55
MadpilotI like the "legally encouraged to copy" ;)06:55
Burgundaviathat is part of the original CD06:55
BurgundaviaI just tweaked the wording of the Breezy cd06:56
BurgundaviaI removed the "share and give to friends" as the dvd is going to be part of a library collection06:56
Madpilotone typo - CD should always be capitalized - so should DVD06:56
Burgundaviaok06:56
Burgundaviahmm06:56
Burgundaviaimage viewer knows nothing about arial06:57
Burgundaviathat is very odd06:57
jsgotangcoheh what else can inscape do07:01
BurgundaviaI don;t know if svg has the logic for multiple pages07:02
Burgundaviaif it does, inkscape will support it one day07:02
Burgundaviait already supports linked text areas and other things the dtps have07:02
MadpilotSVG is ultimately based on XML, so it might be able to do multiple pages some day...07:03
Burgundaviathe SVG spec migth already have it in it and inkscape doesn't support it yet07:04
BurgundaviaSVG spec is huge07:04
Burgundaviaall the animation stuff is not even covered by Inkscape yet07:04
Burgundaviaand something old I did07:05
Burgundaviahttp://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=motulogo4fe.png07:05
Madpilotcool. tweak it so that the red "orbit" goes thru the left-hand circle of the Ubuntu logo07:06
Burgundaviasay again?07:07
Madpiloton the MOTU logo - move the 'back' of the red orbit elipse up a bit so that it goes thru the middle of the bottom-left circle of the U logo07:08
Burgundaviayou mean the left most orange circle?07:10
Burgundaviahttp://www.syslog.com/~jwilson/pics-i-like/bacon4mn.jpg07:10
BurgundaviaI love #wikipedia07:10
jsgotangcoyum is bloody slow07:11
Madpilotyes, the left-most circle on the outer side of the Ubuntu logo07:11
Burgundaviaok, did that07:11
Burgundaviathat circle is orange07:11
Burgundaviathe red one is the upper right one07:11
Burgundaviajsgotangco, what are you using yum on?07:11
jsgotangcoim in centos atm07:12
Burgundaviaah07:12
Burgundaviayou poor bastard07:12
BurgundaviaI am stuck in RPM hell at work07:12
Burgundaviawe don't even have yum configured07:12
jsgotangcoubuntu decided to go gung-ho and renamed something that skype badly needs07:12
jsgotangcohave you seen the madpenguin writeup?07:14
Burgundaviathe ubuntu in business one?07:14
Burgundaviahttp://madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=555707:14
Burgundavia"My name is Simon, I am a Linux addict, and this is my story. "07:14
jsgotangcoyeah07:14
jsgotangcoaddict07:14
jsgotangcohaha07:14
jsgotangcoi live and breathe it every day07:15
jsgotangcoit pays for my food07:15
Burgundavialinux desktop pays for mine too07:15
Burgundaviajust sadly not Ubuntu....07:15
jsgotangcowell i got some servers running ubuntu07:15
jsgotangconot desktops though07:15
jsgotangcobut the "mission-critical" are on rhel07:16
jsgotangcoi should do a proof of concept on ubuntu running for a telco before dapper comes out07:17
jsgotangcocarrier grade ubuntu07:17
jsgotangcoheh07:17
BurgundaviaI really hope https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/network-authentication goes through07:17
jsgotangcohmm07:17
jsgotangcofor some reason, the ff fonts in centos look really good07:18
Burgundaviathey look not bad in FC4 too07:19
MadpilotFF Ubuntu has pretty ugly default fonts, frankly07:19
Burgundaviaabout the only thing that FC4 does well07:19
jsgotangcoits pretty good07:25
jsgotangcoalthough FC4 is a mess IMO compared to centos07:25
jsgotangcobut thats understandable07:25
BurgundaviaFedora core and Opensuse are test beds for RH and Novell engineers07:26
Burgundavianothing more, nothing less07:26
jsgotangcoopensuse must be really bad then07:26
Burgundavianot really07:27
jsgotangcoyuck centos has ooo 1.x07:35
jsgotangcobrb07:45
highvoltagecentos!? who uses centos!?08:03
Burgundaviapeople who need to install non-free binary stuff08:06
Burgundaviaand crackheads08:06
highvoltage:)08:09
Madpilotcrackheads? your prejudices are showing, Burgundavia ;)08:09
Burgundaviahighvoltage, I just /query-ed you, did that reach you or is Freenode playing tricks again?08:09
highvoltageah, sorry, i don't have auto-idenfify08:10
Burgundaviabloody freenode08:10
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Burgundaviaholy crap I get a lot of spam08:58
jsgotangcowow we're organizing an in-house wesnoth tourney08:59
jsgotangcohehe08:59
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BurgundaviaI see09:06
Madpilotthe LUGRadio guys are big Ubuntu fans... (and wierd as heck, too...)09:07
BurgundaviaMadpilot, what are you doing for dinner tomorrow?09:07
BurgundaviaLUGradio is rather odd09:08
Madpilotno plans tomorrow night - why?09:08
robitaillebut highly addictive :)09:08
Burgundaviashall we do dinner at your place? I am free until about 909:08
Madpilotrobitaille: listened to the latest 'cast from them yet?09:08
MadpilotBurgundavia: sure - beer and stir fry?09:09
Burgundaviasounds good09:09
BurgundaviaI will buy the beer09:09
MadpilotBurgundavia: I was about to suggest that ;)09:09
robitailleMadpilot,  yes I did09:09
robitailleI think I have listened to all of them 09:09
Madpilotrobitaille: lots of Ubuntu/Edubuntu/Kubuntu/etc etc mentions09:09
robitaillewhich reminds me:  I was going to send them an email about this:  they finally got a good number of reference to Ubuntu.  In the 1st episode of the season, they only made 2 small passing reference to Ubuntu; very dissapointing09:10
Madpilotheh09:11
Madpilotthe only time they mentioned Gentoo (just to pick a different distro) was to slag it...09:11
robitailleBurgundavia  got one of his letter read on the air a few months back09:11
Madpilotcool09:12
MadpilotBurgundavia: remember which ep that was in?09:12
Burgundaviathe one right after the "rate distros by evilness" episdoe09:12
Burgundavia2:15 I think09:13
robitailleand in typical lugradio fashion, they made some remark about his faimily name09:13
Burgundaviayes09:14
Madpilot...what a shock...09:14
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Burgundavianight09:37
Madpilotnight09:38
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bhuvandocteam meeting is about to start in 15mins ?02:47
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jjessei think so02:47
bhuvanok02:47
jsgotangcohey all02:48
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jjessehiya jsgotangco02:49
jsgotangcoare we all set?02:49
jjessefor the meeting?02:49
jsgotangcooh 10 more minutes02:50
jsgotangcoyeah02:50
kjcoleHi jsgotangco.02:50
jsgotangcohey kjcole 02:50
kjcole(And hi everyone else too. ;-) )02:51
jsgotangcogood thing i arrived early02:51
jsgotangcoheh02:51
jsgotangcowork has been hell, if hell means playing games all day02:51
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jjessewow that sounds rough ;)02:51
jsgotangcojjesse: VERY02:52
bhuvanjsgotangco, good work :)02:52
jsgotangcoi'll definitely enjoy this industry02:52
kjcoleonly hell if you're losing the games, right?02:52
jsgotangcotrue02:53
jjesseyou recently switched jobs didn't you?02:53
jsgotangcohiya bshumate 02:53
jsgotangcojjesse: yeah...02:53
jsgotangcoi haven't been handling the heavy stuff yet, but it'll come02:53
bshumatehello Jerome02:54
bshumatehello all02:54
bshumatecall me Brian ;-)02:54
jsgotangcocan we start whoever is here?02:57
bhuvanseems, mdke & rob1 is missing ?02:57
jsgotangcoits ok we have an agenda anyway02:59
bhuvanok02:59
jsgotangcomdke_ just drops by all of a sudden02:59
jsgotangcobhuvan: meeting time on -meeting03:00
bhuvanyeah, let me start with w.u.c/ServerGuide  03:01
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jsgotangcojeezz i wish lp calendar always assumed utc04:20
jjesselp assumes time based on your location preferences04:20
Riddelljjesse: would you be able to commit anything?  just so we have a template to play with for setting up the packaging?04:20
jsgotangcoyes04:20
jsgotangcobut i am the current owner of the team04:20
Riddelljjesse: RE: kubuntu-desktop guide04:20
jjesseRiddell: i can sure try after this weekend04:20
jsgotangcoso the things i add depend on my timezone04:21
Riddellcool04:21
jsgotangcothat means i add 22UTC as 6am the next day04:21
jjessei've subscribed to the calendar so when you updat it it changes to my time zone04:21
jsgotangcook can you check now04:22
jjessethat is correct time for me04:23
jsgotangcook04:23
jsgotangcorob1 must be drunk by now04:23
jsgotangcookay i gott sleep then04:29
jsgotangcoor rather play with my new phone :)04:29
jsgotangcogood night04:36
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Riddellwhat's the point in the imagelist.txt files?06:29
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Riddellwhich of the generic documents are likely to be in dapper?08:42
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rob1Riddell, I was just looking at the docteam meeting log, yes work has started on the desktop guide, but no writing just yet, just setting up the xml how I want it first11:14
Riddellrob1: yeah saw that thanks.  just stole it as a template for the kubuntu desktop guide11:20
rob1np11:24
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kjcoleTo quote Pink Floyd, "Is there anybody out there? (out there, out there)?"11:55
kjcoleS'alright then. Adieu.11:58

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