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[12:38] <jsgotangco> morning
[12:41] <jsgotangco> mdke: still awake?
[12:56] <judax> jsgotangco: HI
[12:58] <jsgotangco> hey judax how's things?
[12:58] <judax> not bad and you?
[12:59] <jsgotangco> just about to start work heh
[12:59] <judax> ah, well, one must eat
[01:00] <jsgotangco> heh yep
[01:00] <jsgotangco> its fun though
[01:00] <jsgotangco> i currently work for a small game company
[01:04] <jsgotangco> brb
[01:07] <judax> yeah, that would be VERY fun, I work for a boring company, but they write paychecks
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[02:46] <jsgotangco> hi
[02:51] <mpt> ho
[02:52] <jsgotangco> hi mpt 
[03:05] <mgalvin> hey guys
[03:33] <jsgotangco> hey mgalvin 
[03:34] <jsgotangco> brb
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[03:44] <jsgotangco> re
[03:45] <mgalvin> hey jsgotangco
[03:46] <jsgotangco> hey mgalvin how's it going?
[03:47] <mgalvin> pretty good, same old. yourself?
[03:47] <jsgotangco> not bad, currently at work though (its almost 11am)
[03:47] <mgalvin> trying to get dapper installed for todays cds
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[03:48] <mgalvin> 10pm here :)
[03:48] <mgalvin> i think my cd-rw is bad, gotta buy some new ones tomorrow
[03:52] <jsgotangco> ahhh
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[05:30] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco, ping
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[05:55] <Burgundavia> http://img493.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotubuntudvdcoversvgink.png
[05:56] <Burgundavia> robitaille, ^
[05:57] <robitaille> nice
[05:58] <Burgundavia> the best part abut svg is that we can get it translated, as it simply xml
[05:58] <robitaille> is it for dvds, or cds, or both?
[05:59] <Burgundavia> a dvd cover
[06:00] <robitaille> so maybe the 2 references to "CD" should be changed to "DVD" in the text?
[06:00] <Burgundavia> it would be a cd in a dvd case
[06:01] <Burgundavia> the idea would be that we would get them into library catalogues
[06:01] <robitaille> ok.  that explain
[06:01] <Burgundavia> grrr
[06:01] <Burgundavia> the bloody linux for human beings in the logo is not text
[06:02] <Burgundavia> so the non-english versions will need to change which logo they use
[06:05] <robitaille> that's exactly why the gnome-splash image remove the slogan between Hoary and Breezy:  because non-english speaker didn't like the english at every login :)
[06:05] <Burgundavia> ya
[06:07] <Burgundavia> the font is quite odd
[06:07] <Burgundavia> it is almost arial, but not quite
[06:08] <Burgundavia> hmm, now that works
[06:11] <Burgundavia> robitaille, the doc team calendar in LP is wrong
[06:11] <rob1> mdke_, it takes about 40 seconds if that on my pc
[06:16] <robitaille> Burgundavia,  wrong in which sense?
=== robitaille should look at that calendar
[06:17] <Burgundavia> robitaille, time
[06:17] <robitaille> yep I see that.  but only you and jsgotangco  can change it :)
[06:17] <Burgundavia> actually I can't
[06:17] <Burgundavia> there doesn't appear to be a way to edit the calendar
[06:17] <Burgundavia> and I cannot add new things
[06:18] <Burgundavia> says permission denied
[06:18] <robitaille> but you are an admin?
[06:19] <Burgundavia> don't ask me
[06:19] <Burgundavia> yes, I am an admin
[06:19] <robitaille> jsgotangco,  ping
[06:19] <Burgundavia> I really need a good place to store my images
[06:20] <robitaille> shaw?
[06:20] <robitaille> flickr?
[06:20] <robitaille> the wiki?
[06:21] <Burgundavia> ya
[06:21] <Burgundavia> eventually I am going to get my own webspace
[06:22] <Burgundavia> well, I just emailed Mark, silbs and mdy about getting artwork in SVG
[06:22] <robitaille> I store my pictures on my home PC, and serve it to the "world" (i.,e my family) using Gallery
[06:23] <Burgundavia> ick, PHP
[06:23] <robitaille> it works, and I password-restrict to some IPs
[06:23] <Burgundavia> ah, that is ok
[06:24] <robitaille> a lot of people seems to use flickr, but I have some personal problem at entrusting yahoo with all my personal pictures (and I hate the interface)
[06:28] <robitaille> Burgundavia,  does this one works for you:  https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-doc/+calendar/events/513/+edit
[06:39] <jsgotangco> hey
[06:39] <jsgotangco> sorry i went out for lunch
[06:39] <jsgotangco> what's up with the calendar?
[06:43] <robitaille> jsgotangco,  it is at the wrong time for the next meeting
[06:43] <Burgundavia>  Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page.
[06:44] <robitaille> according to LP, the meeting is in 15min :)
[06:45] <jsgotangco> strange
[06:45] <jsgotangco> could it be my timezone?
[06:45] <robitaille> probably
[06:45] <Burgundavia> likely
[06:45] <Burgundavia> I think LP wants things in UTC
[06:46] <jsgotangco> ok then it sould be around 22:00 in my area then
[06:46] <robitaille> i thought LP wants things in the timezone in your profile
[06:46] <jsgotangco> what time is our meeting again?
[06:46] <Burgundavia> 14:00 utc
[06:46] <Burgundavia> 6 bloody am
[06:48] <jsgotangco> maybe i should change the team's date profile then
[06:48] <jsgotangco> if its possible
[06:48] <Burgundavia> hmm
[06:48] <Burgundavia> can you figure out why I can't edit the calendar either?
[06:48] <jsgotangco> no idea
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[06:48] <jsgotangco> because i asked you
[06:48] <jsgotangco> ?
[06:48] <jsgotangco> and you said "its ok"
[06:48] <Burgundavia> did you?
[06:49] <jsgotangco> i did
[06:49] <Burgundavia> ah, thats ok then
[06:49] <jsgotangco> you probably still had ubz hangover back then
[06:49] <Burgundavia> in other news, http://img493.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotubuntudvdcoversvgink.png
[06:49] <Burgundavia> an dvd cover modelled on the cd cover
[06:49] <jsgotangco> bloody hell now it says the meeting on my side is at 5am
[06:49] <jsgotangco> can you check the lp calendar now on the team
[06:50] <Burgundavia> current says the correct time for me
[06:50] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco, you got your timezone settings right in LP?
[06:50] <jsgotangco> ok so it depends on MY time
=== mpt ph3ars the launchpad calendar
[06:50] <jsgotangco> 14:00UTC is 22:00UTC on my side
=== jsgotangco wished it just assumed UTC
[06:51] <robitaille> https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad-cal/+bug/2557
[06:51] <Burgundavia> holy crap that bug is old
[06:51] <jsgotangco> yes so it depends on the owner's timezone then
[06:55] <Madpilot> Burgundavia: the DVD cover looks good
[06:55] <Madpilot> I like the "legally encouraged to copy" ;)
[06:55] <Burgundavia> that is part of the original CD
[06:56] <Burgundavia> I just tweaked the wording of the Breezy cd
[06:56] <Burgundavia> I removed the "share and give to friends" as the dvd is going to be part of a library collection
[06:56] <Madpilot> one typo - CD should always be capitalized - so should DVD
[06:56] <Burgundavia> ok
[06:56] <Burgundavia> hmm
[06:57] <Burgundavia> image viewer knows nothing about arial
[06:57] <Burgundavia> that is very odd
[07:01] <jsgotangco> heh what else can inscape do
[07:02] <Burgundavia> I don;t know if svg has the logic for multiple pages
[07:02] <Burgundavia> if it does, inkscape will support it one day
[07:02] <Burgundavia> it already supports linked text areas and other things the dtps have
[07:03] <Madpilot> SVG is ultimately based on XML, so it might be able to do multiple pages some day...
[07:04] <Burgundavia> the SVG spec migth already have it in it and inkscape doesn't support it yet
[07:04] <Burgundavia> SVG spec is huge
[07:04] <Burgundavia> all the animation stuff is not even covered by Inkscape yet
[07:05] <Burgundavia> and something old I did
[07:05] <Burgundavia> http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=motulogo4fe.png
[07:06] <Madpilot> cool. tweak it so that the red "orbit" goes thru the left-hand circle of the Ubuntu logo
[07:07] <Burgundavia> say again?
[07:08] <Madpilot> on the MOTU logo - move the 'back' of the red orbit elipse up a bit so that it goes thru the middle of the bottom-left circle of the U logo
[07:10] <Burgundavia> you mean the left most orange circle?
[07:10] <Burgundavia> http://www.syslog.com/~jwilson/pics-i-like/bacon4mn.jpg
[07:10] <Burgundavia> I love #wikipedia
[07:11] <jsgotangco> yum is bloody slow
[07:11] <Madpilot> yes, the left-most circle on the outer side of the Ubuntu logo
[07:11] <Burgundavia> ok, did that
[07:11] <Burgundavia> that circle is orange
[07:11] <Burgundavia> the red one is the upper right one
[07:11] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco, what are you using yum on?
[07:12] <jsgotangco> im in centos atm
[07:12] <Burgundavia> ah
[07:12] <Burgundavia> you poor bastard
[07:12] <Burgundavia> I am stuck in RPM hell at work
[07:12] <Burgundavia> we don't even have yum configured
[07:12] <jsgotangco> ubuntu decided to go gung-ho and renamed something that skype badly needs
[07:14] <jsgotangco> have you seen the madpenguin writeup?
[07:14] <Burgundavia> the ubuntu in business one?
[07:14] <Burgundavia> http://madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5557
[07:14] <Burgundavia> "My name is Simon, I am a Linux addict, and this is my story. "
[07:14] <jsgotangco> yeah
[07:14] <jsgotangco> addict
[07:14] <jsgotangco> haha
[07:15] <jsgotangco> i live and breathe it every day
[07:15] <jsgotangco> it pays for my food
[07:15] <Burgundavia> linux desktop pays for mine too
[07:15] <Burgundavia> just sadly not Ubuntu....
[07:15] <jsgotangco> well i got some servers running ubuntu
[07:15] <jsgotangco> not desktops though
[07:16] <jsgotangco> but the "mission-critical" are on rhel
[07:17] <jsgotangco> i should do a proof of concept on ubuntu running for a telco before dapper comes out
[07:17] <jsgotangco> carrier grade ubuntu
[07:17] <jsgotangco> heh
[07:17] <Burgundavia> I really hope https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/network-authentication goes through
[07:17] <jsgotangco> hmm
[07:18] <jsgotangco> for some reason, the ff fonts in centos look really good
[07:19] <Burgundavia> they look not bad in FC4 too
[07:19] <Madpilot> FF Ubuntu has pretty ugly default fonts, frankly
[07:19] <Burgundavia> about the only thing that FC4 does well
[07:25] <jsgotangco> its pretty good
[07:25] <jsgotangco> although FC4 is a mess IMO compared to centos
[07:25] <jsgotangco> but thats understandable
[07:26] <Burgundavia> Fedora core and Opensuse are test beds for RH and Novell engineers
[07:26] <Burgundavia> nothing more, nothing less
[07:26] <jsgotangco> opensuse must be really bad then
[07:27] <Burgundavia> not really
[07:35] <jsgotangco> yuck centos has ooo 1.x
[07:45] <jsgotangco> brb
[08:03] <highvoltage> centos!? who uses centos!?
[08:06] <Burgundavia> people who need to install non-free binary stuff
[08:06] <Burgundavia> and crackheads
[08:09] <highvoltage> :)
[08:09] <Madpilot> crackheads? your prejudices are showing, Burgundavia ;)
[08:09] <Burgundavia> highvoltage, I just /query-ed you, did that reach you or is Freenode playing tricks again?
[08:10] <highvoltage> ah, sorry, i don't have auto-idenfify
[08:10] <Burgundavia> bloody freenode
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[08:58] <Burgundavia> holy crap I get a lot of spam
[08:59] <jsgotangco> wow we're organizing an in-house wesnoth tourney
[08:59] <jsgotangco> hehe
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[09:06] <Burgundavia> I see
[09:07] <Madpilot> the LUGRadio guys are big Ubuntu fans... (and wierd as heck, too...)
[09:07] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, what are you doing for dinner tomorrow?
[09:08] <Burgundavia> LUGradio is rather odd
[09:08] <Madpilot> no plans tomorrow night - why?
[09:08] <robitaille> but highly addictive :)
[09:08] <Burgundavia> shall we do dinner at your place? I am free until about 9
[09:08] <Madpilot> robitaille: listened to the latest 'cast from them yet?
[09:09] <Madpilot> Burgundavia: sure - beer and stir fry?
[09:09] <Burgundavia> sounds good
[09:09] <Burgundavia> I will buy the beer
[09:09] <Madpilot> Burgundavia: I was about to suggest that ;)
[09:09] <robitaille> Madpilot,  yes I did
[09:09] <robitaille> I think I have listened to all of them 
[09:09] <Madpilot> robitaille: lots of Ubuntu/Edubuntu/Kubuntu/etc etc mentions
[09:10] <robitaille> which reminds me:  I was going to send them an email about this:  they finally got a good number of reference to Ubuntu.  In the 1st episode of the season, they only made 2 small passing reference to Ubuntu; very dissapointing
[09:11] <Madpilot> heh
[09:11] <Madpilot> the only time they mentioned Gentoo (just to pick a different distro) was to slag it...
[09:11] <robitaille> Burgundavia  got one of his letter read on the air a few months back
[09:12] <Madpilot> cool
[09:12] <Madpilot> Burgundavia: remember which ep that was in?
[09:12] <Burgundavia> the one right after the "rate distros by evilness" episdoe
[09:13] <Burgundavia> 2:15 I think
[09:13] <robitaille> and in typical lugradio fashion, they made some remark about his faimily name
[09:14] <Burgundavia> yes
[09:14] <Madpilot> ...what a shock...
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[09:37] <Burgundavia> night
[09:38] <Madpilot> night
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[02:47] <bhuvan> docteam meeting is about to start in 15mins ?
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[02:47] <jjesse> i think so
[02:47] <bhuvan> ok
[02:48] <jsgotangco> hey all
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[02:49] <jjesse> hiya jsgotangco
[02:49] <jsgotangco> are we all set?
[02:49] <jjesse> for the meeting?
[02:50] <jsgotangco> oh 10 more minutes
[02:50] <jsgotangco> yeah
[02:50] <kjcole> Hi jsgotangco.
[02:50] <jsgotangco> hey kjcole 
[02:51] <kjcole> (And hi everyone else too. ;-) )
[02:51] <jsgotangco> good thing i arrived early
[02:51] <jsgotangco> heh
[02:51] <jsgotangco> work has been hell, if hell means playing games all day
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[02:51] <jjesse> wow that sounds rough ;)
[02:52] <jsgotangco> jjesse: VERY
[02:52] <bhuvan> jsgotangco, good work :)
[02:52] <jsgotangco> i'll definitely enjoy this industry
[02:52] <kjcole> only hell if you're losing the games, right?
[02:53] <jsgotangco> true
[02:53] <jjesse> you recently switched jobs didn't you?
[02:53] <jsgotangco> hiya bshumate 
[02:53] <jsgotangco> jjesse: yeah...
[02:53] <jsgotangco> i haven't been handling the heavy stuff yet, but it'll come
[02:54] <bshumate> hello Jerome
[02:54] <bshumate> hello all
[02:54] <bshumate> call me Brian ;-)
[02:57] <jsgotangco> can we start whoever is here?
[02:57] <bhuvan> seems, mdke & rob1 is missing ?
[02:59] <jsgotangco> its ok we have an agenda anyway
[02:59] <bhuvan> ok
[02:59] <jsgotangco> mdke_ just drops by all of a sudden
[03:00] <jsgotangco> bhuvan: meeting time on -meeting
[03:01] <bhuvan> yeah, let me start with w.u.c/ServerGuide  
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[04:20] <jsgotangco> jeezz i wish lp calendar always assumed utc
[04:20] <jjesse> lp assumes time based on your location preferences
[04:20] <Riddell> jjesse: would you be able to commit anything?  just so we have a template to play with for setting up the packaging?
[04:20] <jsgotangco> yes
[04:20] <jsgotangco> but i am the current owner of the team
[04:20] <Riddell> jjesse: RE: kubuntu-desktop guide
[04:20] <jjesse> Riddell: i can sure try after this weekend
[04:21] <jsgotangco> so the things i add depend on my timezone
[04:21] <Riddell> cool
[04:21] <jsgotangco> that means i add 22UTC as 6am the next day
[04:21] <jjesse> i've subscribed to the calendar so when you updat it it changes to my time zone
[04:22] <jsgotangco> ok can you check now
[04:23] <jjesse> that is correct time for me
[04:23] <jsgotangco> ok
[04:23] <jsgotangco> rob1 must be drunk by now
[04:29] <jsgotangco> okay i gott sleep then
[04:29] <jsgotangco> or rather play with my new phone :)
[04:36] <jsgotangco> good night
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[06:29] <Riddell> what's the point in the imagelist.txt files?
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[08:42] <Riddell> which of the generic documents are likely to be in dapper?
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[11:14] <rob1> Riddell, I was just looking at the docteam meeting log, yes work has started on the desktop guide, but no writing just yet, just setting up the xml how I want it first
[11:20] <Riddell> rob1: yeah saw that thanks.  just stole it as a template for the kubuntu desktop guide
[11:24] <rob1> np
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[11:55] <kjcole> To quote Pink Floyd, "Is there anybody out there? (out there, out there)?"
[11:58] <kjcole> S'alright then. Adieu.