[12:12] <jmg> Riddell: looks ok so far, forgot some of my konsole settings but all seems ok so far
[12:13] <Riddell> ** new flight-1 CD images up, sync against current one with rsync -CvzapP --stats rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/daily/current/dapper-install-i386.iso .
[12:13] <jmg> Riddell: why didnt amarok 1.3.5 go to breezy-updates?
[12:13] <Riddell> jmg: there's no new amarok in dapper
[12:13] <Riddell> it will do
[12:13] <jmg> kk
[12:13] <jmg> so for now manually download package and install? sounds cheap :P
[12:16] <jmg> eek... amarok crashes :(
[12:27] <jmg> Segmentation fault
[12:27] <jmg> right... bbl
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[01:24] <Riddell> ** testers for flight-1 candidate needed http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/daily-live/20051119/
[01:24] <Riddell> live CD
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[02:56] <Diablo-D3> Riddell: heres a no one
[02:56] <Diablo-D3> er
[02:56] <Diablo-D3> Riddell: heres a new one
[02:57] <Diablo-D3> everytime kdesktop freaks out, it pops a dialog up, "The KDE mediamanager is not running."
[03:39] <Riddell> peculiar
[03:40] <Diablo-D3> the question is
[03:40] <Diablo-D3> when did kde growa media manager?
[03:41] <Riddell> Diablo-D3: 3.5
[03:41] <Diablo-D3> -_-
[03:41] <Diablo-D3> btw, I assume the c++ transition didnt happen yet
[03:41] <Diablo-D3> what source package holds the media manager?
[03:43] <Tm_T> what is media manager?
[03:43] <Riddell> kdebase-kioslaves I think
[03:43] <Riddell> c++ transition is after flight-1
[03:43] <Tm_T> uh
[03:43] <Diablo-D3> uh?
[03:44] <Tm_T> yes, uh
[03:44] <Diablo-D3> Riddell: no such source package name
[03:44] <Tm_T> javascript in Kopete chat window
[03:44] <Riddell> thing that pops up a dialogue saying "you have entered a CD, what should I do"
[03:44] <Tm_T> ah
[03:44] <Diablo-D3> if you mean kdebase-kio-plugins, its already built
[03:44] <Diablo-D3> oh!
[03:45] <Diablo-D3> Riddell: if thats what it is, nm then
[03:45] <Diablo-D3> dbus is wonky on my machine
[03:45] <Tm_T> :p
[03:45] <Diablo-D3> and its unrelated to kdestop blowing up
[03:45] <Diablo-D3> kdesktop is just bitching dbus is wonky when it starts up
[03:45] <Diablo-D3> (which it wasnt doing yesterday, because dbus was working yesterday)
[03:46] <jmg> kdesktop uses dbus now?
[03:46] <Diablo-D3> jmg: yeah
[03:46] <Diablo-D3> it has for awhile
[03:47] <Diablo-D3> everytime you insert media, an icon pops up on your desktop
[03:47] <jmg> dbus over dcop? crazy
[03:47] <Diablo-D3> such as a CD or flash media
[03:47] <jmg> ahhh
[03:47] <jmg> k
[03:47] <Diablo-D3> its only using it for that
[03:47] <jmg> python dbus bindings are crap
[03:47] <jmg> hehe
[03:47] <Diablo-D3> python is crap, thats why.
[03:47] <jmg> mod -5 flamebait :)
[03:48] <Diablo-D3> man dapper is so behind atm
[03:48] <Diablo-D3> kde is basically fucked
[03:48] <jmg> Diablo-D3: get to work then
[03:48] <Diablo-D3> firefox nukes itself on print due to freetype shit
[03:48] <jmg> Diablo-D3: i want to see kde4 in dapper 
[03:49] <Diablo-D3> I want to see kde4 upstream.
[03:49] <jmg> svn.kde.org
[03:49] <Diablo-D3> thats not upstream
[03:49] <Diablo-D3> thats upstream's svn
[03:49] <jmg> it builds
[03:49] <Diablo-D3> from what I hear, barely.
[03:50] <jmg> unless the unit tests have been fucked it should always build
[03:51] <Riddell> we have unit tests?
[03:52] <jmg> isnt there some test crap?
[03:53] <jmg> konstruct?
[03:53] <Diablo-D3> kde? I dont think so.
[03:53] <jmg> no wonder it's such a minefield
[03:53] <Diablo-D3> what have I been telling you
[03:53] <jmg> i thought there were tests in every module
[03:53] <Diablo-D3> hell no
[03:55] <Diablo-D3> and no
[03:55] <Diablo-D3> http://di.fm/mp3/goapsy.pls
[03:55] <Diablo-D3> that is mindfield
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[03:56] <jmg> goa :)
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[04:02] <jmg> what the hell happened to arts with these packages?
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[04:29] <Diablo-D3> arts is pretty fucked atm
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[10:04] <jpatrick> Riddell: no idea where my package went
[10:06] <jpatrick> maybe I should -f dput it
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[11:17] <Riddell> jpatrick: upload it somewhere else and I'll take a look at it
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[11:25] <jpatrick> hmm....
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[11:45] <jpatrick> maybe it was nuked
[11:59] <jpatrick> it was nuked...
[12:02] <jpatrick> Riddell: reuploaded
[12:08] <jpatrick> Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=959
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[01:39] <Riddell> jpatrick: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=959  looks nice, a few small issues
[01:47] <jpatrick> Riddell: it's http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=960
[01:48] <jpatrick> Riddell: original source does have a debian dir
[01:48] <jpatrick> I can't find anything on debian/compat
[01:50] <Riddell> echo 4 > debian/compat
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[02:36] <freeflying> Riddell: ping
[02:51] <jpatrick> Riddell: this good?: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=961
[03:04] <Riddell> freeflying: yo
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[03:09] <jpatrick> hi pef
[03:09] <pef> hello
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[03:24] <freeflying> Riddell: still here?
[03:30] <freeflying> Riddell: do you maintain scim in dapper now?
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[06:05] <Tm_T> Riddell: you will remove/disable ivman? \o/
[06:07] <Riddell> Tm_T: I guess so
[06:07] <jpatrick> Riddell: "diff contains config.sub config.guess" <- Should I remove the scripts?
[06:08] <Riddell> jpatrick: yes, rm -rf  them in the clean rule in debian/rules
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[06:16] <jpatrick> Riddell: done: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=967
[06:17] <jpatrick> Riddell: Maybe I should of added some Kubuntu themes...
[06:19] <Riddell> jpatrick: approved
[06:19] <Riddell> jpatrick: please poke pef into reviewing it too
[06:19] <Riddell> jpatrick: and other other, maybe \sh_away if he has time
[06:20] <jpatrick> Riddell: thanks
[06:20] <Riddell> jpatrick: kubuntu themes would be nice, maybe that one that's on kde-look
[06:20] <Riddell> jpatrick: thank you :)
[06:24] <pef> jpatrick: just change breezy by dapper in debian/changelog, and bump standards-Version to 3.6.2 in debian/control, and maybe delete all commented out debhelper commands calls in debian/rules (likedh_installcron,dh_python, ...)  
[06:24] <jpatrick> pef: okay
[06:25] <jpatrick> Riddell: lincense for the theme is Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike that will affect the copyright...
[06:25] <Riddell> jpatrick: don't include it for now
[06:25] <pef> Riddell: do you agree with my comments ?
[06:26] <Riddell> pef: I don't see a need for the last one
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[06:36] <jpatrick> pef: done: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=968
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[06:43] <jpatrick> (supper time)
[06:45] <Riddell> jpatrick: keep poking pef until he approves :)
[06:47] <pef> Riddell: :D
[06:48] <pef> jpatrick: does ksplash really needed to build the package ?
[06:49] <pef> jpatrick: does this stuff has a homepage ? if affirmative, may be cool to add it do end of description (debian/control)
[06:50] <Riddell> add kde-apps page if it doesn't have a homepage
[06:53] <pef> Riddell: do you use pbuilder ?
[06:54] <Riddell> pef: no, not usually, just a chroot
[06:55] <pef> Riddell: and how you do to have a clean chroot for each test ? tar ?
[06:57] <Riddell> pef: I don't
[06:57] <Riddell> which is bad and wrong of me I know
[07:02] <jpatrick> pef: it does, yes
[07:02] <jpatrick> it fails if not
[07:04] <jpatrick> pef: needs /usr/lib/libksplashthemes.so
[07:04] <jpatrick> Riddell: no kde-apps page
[07:05] <pef> jpatrick: ok, and I think you can delete kdelibs4-dev from Build-Depends, because kdebase-dev provides it
[07:05] <Riddell> jpatrick: isn't there?  where did you get it from then?
[07:05] <Riddell> jpatrick: oh, kde-look then
[07:05] <jpatrick> it's in the Splash Screen section of KDE-Look
[07:07] <jpatrick> removed kdelibs4-dev
[07:07] <Riddell> jpatrick: well whatever the best URL is for the app
[07:08] <jpatrick> http://moodwrod.com/ would be te homepage but it's down
[07:08] <jpatrick> the*
[07:08] <Riddell> use the kde-look page then
[07:11] <jpatrick> Riddell: reuploading with chnages
[07:11] <jpatrick> (brb)
[07:13] <Riddell> pef: please review kftpgrabber http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=948
[07:16] <jpatrick> pef: please see new package too: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=969
[07:17] <Riddell> pef: please review gwenrename http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=949
[07:21] <pef> jpatrick: debian/rules: --enable-debug=full  is it needed ?
[07:21] <pef> config.status target
[07:22] <Riddell> pef: does not harm, it should be stripped by dh_strip I think
[07:24] <pef> all done.
[07:26] <Riddell> pef: please review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=947
[07:26] <Riddell> kxmame
[07:27] <Riddell> pef has a keener eye that I suspected :)
[07:28] <Riddell> \sh_away: please review gwenrename http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=949
[07:28] <pef> :D
[07:30] <Riddell> hmm, gwenrename is in ready to upload, do we only need 2 reviews?
[07:31] <pef> Riddell: wasn't it decided during a techboard meeting ?
[07:32] <Riddell> ok, must have missed that
[07:32] <Riddell> so I'll upload gwenrename
[07:33] <pef> Riddell: I'm not sure it was accepted, just sure to heard this once on #ubuntu-meeting
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[07:46] <jpatrick> Riddell: so the settings okay?
[07:46] <Riddell> jpatrick: on what?
[07:47] <jpatrick> --enable-degug=FULL?
[07:47] <jpatrick> debug*
[07:47] <Riddell> >file /usr/lib/kde3/ksplashmoodin.so
[07:47] <Riddell> /usr/lib/kde3/ksplashmoodin.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
[07:47] <Riddell> it ends up stripped so I think that's all fine
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[08:03] <author-psi> Riddell: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php <- too much  [*]  (one point)
[08:04] <author-psi> (at CD)
[08:05] <Riddell> author-psi: hmm?
[08:06] <jpatrick> Riddell: there is one too many bullets
[08:06] <jpatrick> between Japan & Poland
[08:06] <author-psi> jpatrick: thx.. (my english..)
[08:07] <jpatrick> looks like it's fixed
[08:07] <Riddell> fixed.  sysadmin broke that
[08:07] <jpatrick> Riddell: how does one get into the kubuntu-team ?
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[08:09] <author-psi> jpatrick: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingKubuntu
[08:09] <jpatrick> author-psi: I'm at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team
[08:10] <author-psi> hehe and Im at https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-de
[08:11] <Riddell> jpatrick: there should be a link somewhere to join
[08:11] <jpatrick> Riddell: I've pressed it
[08:11] <Riddell> "Join the team"
[08:11] <jpatrick> like three days ago
[08:12] <jpatrick> author-psi: shouldn't kubuntu-de have a relation to kubuntu-team ?
[08:12] <Riddell> you and tvo is seems
[08:12] <Riddell> I've approved both, don't remember getting e-mails about them
[08:13] <author-psi> jpatrick: its for german forums and website leaders
[08:16] <Riddell> jpatrick: keep poking pef to review moodin
[08:17] <Riddell> jpatrick: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuSuggestedPackages
[08:17] <Riddell> jpatrick: bugzilla.ubuntu.com has plenty things to do too
[08:18] <jpatrick> Riddell: right
[08:18] <Riddell> jpatrick: debian merges needing done http://tinyurl.com/9cmuw
[08:19] <jpatrick> keep an eye out for Flight 1 I guess
[08:19] <Riddell> flight-1 is released
[08:20] <jpatrick> anyone on KMPlayer?
[08:21] <Riddell> jpatrick: don't think so, check the web though and debian and apt-get.org
[08:25] <pef> mm will do the smb4k merge
[08:25] <jpatrick> It's in marillat
[08:26] <jpatrick> and REVU
[08:29] <pef> mm
[08:29] <pef> Riddell: what's the status of this sync ? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=843
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[09:19] <raphink> Riddell: all changes taken in consideration :D
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[10:45] <jpatrick> night guys
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[10:53] <Diablo-D3> yargh.
[10:54] <Diablo-D3> Riddell: fix arts
[10:55] <Diablo-D3> you said it yourself the c++ transition isnt going to happen forever
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