[12:05] <sivang> CosmoDad: hehe, well, in real life my name, but around the ubuntu websites, it's always the email :)
[12:08] <CosmoDad> ;)
[12:10] <mpt> It's Launchpad, it infects things with awkward-terminology-disease
[12:10] <mpt> hmm
[12:10] <mpt> "bzr: ERROR: Local branch is not a newer version of remote branch."
[12:18] <jamesh> something seems weird: https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~jamesh/pending-reviews/log
[12:18] <jamesh> HistoryMissing: _Branch(u'/home/warthogs/archives/rocketfuel/launchpad/devel') is missing inventory {pqm@pqm.ubuntu.com-20051117235800-9dcf601f2e4bb0d3}
[12:20] <mpt> jamesh, I think that's what lifeless was talking about 1h40m ago
[12:23] <jamesh> looks like ddaa's evil takes-25-minutes-to-merge branch has been merged
[12:48] <mpt> lifeless, sorry to bother you again, but do you know why I'd be getting the "Local branch is not a newer version of remote branch" error?
[12:48] <mpt> Does bzr commit automatically push?
[01:03] <jamesh> mpt: ssh over to chinstrap and run "bzr log | less" in the directory you are pushing to
[01:03] <jamesh> see if that gives you some ideas
[01:04] <jamesh> (and check to make sure you are pushing to where you think you are)
[01:10] <mpt> jamesh, it contains nothing from me
[01:11] <mpt> the most recent stuff in it is from November 10
[01:12] <jamesh> mpt: okay.  Does the revision number for the latest log entry in the remote branch exist in your local branch, and have the same log message?
[01:14] <jamesh> the remote branch needs to be a strict subset of the local branch for the push to succeed
[01:14] <mpt> jamesh, no, they're different
[01:15] <mpt> In the remote one, revno 2821 is Kinnison fixing a bug. In the local one, 2821 is me merging rocketfuel.
[01:15] <jamesh> so how did you push to the remote branch last time?
[01:16] <mpt> I haven't successfully yet
[01:17] <jamesh> where are you pushing to?
[01:17] <mpt> /home/warthogs/mpt/launchpad/smallfixes
[01:18] <jamesh> so how did /home/warthogs/mpt/launchpad/smallfixes get it's current content if you haven't been able to push to it?
[01:18] <mpt> because lifeless successfully demoed a push on my machine
[01:18] <mpt> iirc
[01:19] <jamesh> you can either (a) push to a different location, or (b) use "bzr push --overwrite" to ignore any changes in the remote copy
[01:20] <jamesh> if you do (b), make sure there isn't anything that needs to be kept in the remote branch.
[01:20] <mpt> ok, thanks
[01:26] <mpt> jamesh, the next problem is right up your alley, it's about gpg
[01:28] <mpt> when I send to pqm, gnome-gpg crashes with 2 * "gpg: [stdout] : write error: Broken pipe", followed by "iobuf_flush failed on close: file write error"
[01:28] <jamesh> no idea there, sorry
[01:30] <jamesh> actually, is the "mail" program installed?
[01:30] <mpt> ... no
[01:30] <jamesh> sudo apt-get install mailx then
[01:31] <mpt> hurrah, that works
[01:31] <mpt> thanks jamesh
[02:25] <mdz> is it normal for a bzr pull to take 2 hours?
[02:42] <jamesh> mdz: unfortunately yes.
[02:42] <jamesh> mdz: I usually rsync the checked out rocketfuel tree, and use it to make local working copies or perform merges
[02:43] <jamesh> http://blogs.gnome.org/view/jamesh/2005/11/17/0 <- this may also help.  The default sftp transport in bzr doesn't do compression
[02:48] <mdz> jamesh: thanks
[02:48] <mdz> I don't suppose I should abort my ongoing pull to restart it with openssh-ftp though
[02:48] <mdz> [[03:13] <jblack> yeah, that first pull is quite expensive. If you keep a branches dir, you can update that pristine version when you like much more efficiently and branch that.
[04:02] <Kinnison> g/night all
[04:12] <mdz> jblack: this isn't my first; it's updating a branch I pulled down during UBZ
[02:13] <beluche> hi folks
[02:19] <beluche> hello...
[07:03] <munzir> hi gurs! this is the first time I am here so let me first thank you for this great piece of software
[07:04] <munzir> now I would like to know how rosetta compares to other tools like pootle or karoutche or ...
[07:11] <munzir> Hi sirs! I would like to know how rosetta compares to other tools like pootle or kartouche or ...? which one should I choose and depending on what?
[07:15] <sivang> munzir: personally, I think Rosetta is more comfortable to use then Pootle (Not familiar with kartouch). BUt that's probably a matter of taste.
[07:20] <munzir> sivang: ok I respect your taste since I have tried none to this minute.
[07:20] <sivang> munzir: ah :)
[07:21] <munzir> sivang: now from where do rosetta get the translations and how do they coordinate it with people translating directly upstream?!
[07:23] <munzir> say I want to translate drupal now to my language which is Arabic what shall I do?
[07:32] <sivang> munzir: let's see
[07:34] <sivang> munzir: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RosettaFAQ
[07:34] <sivang> munzir: let me know if this helps :)
[07:35] <sivang> munzir: also, https://launchpad.net/products/drupal/+translations
[07:52] <sivang> munzir: regarding cordinations with upstream, all the translations availabel through rosetta can be xported and reused by uptream people