sistpoty | args. it did... and then it failed. even stranger | 12:03 |
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sistpoty | this actually was a one line patch which had nothing to do with ghc6... | 12:03 |
sistpoty | (only tail -n +2 instead of tail +2) | 12:03 |
sistpoty | hm... since it does 2-phase bootstrapping, i guess a) ghc6 w. gcc4 can no longer rebuild itself or b) s.th. else changed and caused the fail | 12:05 |
sistpoty | but i guess b) might be a little bit more likely *hope* | 12:05 |
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slomo | a) would be really bad :/ | 12:06 |
sistpoty | slomo: do you have access to a 64bit arch? | 12:06 |
slomo | amd64, yes | 12:06 |
sistpoty | I have read some bugs about ghc6 + 64bit in general | 12:06 |
sistpoty | slomo would you eventually try to rebuild ghc6 with newest dapper ghc6 there? | 12:07 |
slomo | sure... tomorrow | 12:07 |
slomo | oh wait | 12:07 |
sistpoty | but only if you have enough time... it will take... hours! :) | 12:07 |
slomo | now ;) | 12:07 |
slomo | uh | 12:07 |
slomo | tomorrow :P | 12:07 |
sistpoty | hehe | 12:07 |
sistpoty | cool, thx. | 12:07 |
slomo | really hours? | 12:07 |
sistpoty | yep... mom, I'll take a look how long the buildd took | 12:08 |
sistpoty | slomo: buildd took 2:02h | 12:09 |
slomo | ok | 12:09 |
sistpoty | (amd64) | 12:09 |
sistpoty | thx slomo | 12:10 |
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raphink | hello :) | 12:56 |
crimsun | hi | 12:56 |
raphink | hi crimsun :) | 12:57 |
crimsun | 2.6.12-9 is so much more usable than 2.6.15-3 :) | 12:57 |
raphink | crimsun: I've got a pb with a package in which manpages won't install | 12:58 |
raphink | would you help me with it? | 12:58 |
crimsun | sure, what's up? | 12:58 |
raphink | ok | 12:58 |
raphink | i'll show you the debian/rules | 12:58 |
raphink | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4725 | 12:59 |
raphink | here it is | 12:59 |
raphink | I just tried with two manpages so far | 12:59 |
raphink | but none will install | 12:59 |
crimsun | (sec, dapper pbuilder is updating) | 12:59 |
raphink | ok :) | 12:59 |
crimsun | ok, show me the dpkg-buildpackage run | 01:05 |
raphink | ok wait a min | 01:05 |
raphink | I'll run it | 01:06 |
raphink | huh | 01:06 |
raphink | it crashes | 01:06 |
raphink | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4726 | 01:07 |
raphink | debuild works | 01:07 |
raphink | so i didn't try dpkg-buildpackage | 01:07 |
raphink | crimsun: ^^ | 01:07 |
crimsun | the output from debuild, then | 01:07 |
crimsun | (fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage ...) | 01:08 |
raphink | entire one? | 01:08 |
raphink | oh yeah fakeroot LOl | 01:08 |
raphink | it's late ;) | 01:08 |
raphink | hehe | 01:08 |
raphink | you want the entire debuild output? | 01:08 |
raphink | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4727 | 01:09 |
raphink | there | 01:09 |
raphink | lines 148 and 149 build the docbooks | 01:10 |
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raphink | but it doesn't seem to install them | 01:11 |
crimsun | where is docbook2x-man placing the generated man pages? | 01:15 |
raphink | in debian i guess | 01:15 |
crimsun | can you check? | 01:15 |
raphink | the docbook files are there | 01:15 |
raphink | well I clean them afterwards | 01:15 |
raphink | so i can't really check | 01:15 |
crimsun | after you run debuild? | 01:16 |
raphink | hmm | 01:16 |
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crimsun | note that your build:: extension is actually called after dh_clean -k | 01:16 |
crimsun | (so it's called twice) | 01:17 |
raphink | they're not in the sources after i run debuild | 01:17 |
raphink | yes | 01:17 |
raphink | so clean:: should be defined before build:: ? | 01:17 |
crimsun | (that's not the issue) | 01:18 |
crimsun | I'm just trying to locate your generated man pages | 01:18 |
raphink | ok | 01:19 |
raphink | they are in the root :( | 01:19 |
raphink | not in debian/ | 01:19 |
raphink | that's weird | 01:19 |
crimsun | :) | 01:20 |
raphink | I mean | 01:20 |
raphink | I have the same kind of code for knmap | 01:20 |
raphink | and the docbooks don't end up in the root | 01:20 |
raphink | :s | 01:20 |
raphink | indeed if they are bult in the root it's obvious they won't be installed though | 01:21 |
raphink | :( | 01:22 |
crimsun | note also that those two generated man pages aren't being passed to dh_installman | 01:22 |
raphink | well because they're not created in the right place I guess | 01:22 |
crimsun | right | 01:23 |
raphink | I'm trying to see where knmap creates the manpages from the docbook | 01:24 |
raphink | well knmap also creates it in the root | 01:25 |
raphink | so that's fine | 01:25 |
raphink | it's not the pb | 01:25 |
crimsun | but is the filename called knmap.1? | 01:26 |
raphink | yes | 01:26 |
crimsun | see, that's the difference | 01:26 |
raphink | why? | 01:26 |
crimsun | the two man pages that are generated don't match the package name | 01:27 |
raphink | hmm | 01:27 |
raphink | they are called kim_album.1 and kim_compress.1 | 01:27 |
raphink | maybe I can't put "_" in manpages names | 01:27 |
crimsun | therefore you have to pass them explicitly: dh_installman -pkim kim_album.1 kim_compress.1 | 01:27 |
crimsun | sure you can | 01:27 |
crimsun | (see apt_preferences) | 01:28 |
raphink | hmm | 01:28 |
raphink | so you mean its this that it wrong : | 01:28 |
raphink | DEB_INSTALL_MANPAGES_kim_album = kim_album.1 | 01:28 |
raphink | DEB_INSTALL_MANPAGES_kim_compress = kim_compress.1 | 01:28 |
raphink | these lines don't work ? | 01:28 |
crimsun | you have packages named kim_album and kim_compress? | 01:29 |
crimsun | (which would be illegal anyhow, since _ is a delimiter for version) | 01:29 |
raphink | not packages but binaries | 01:29 |
raphink | I have 14 binaires in this package | 01:29 |
raphink | so I need one package for each | 01:29 |
crimsun | yes, that's wrong | 01:30 |
crimsun | because you have no package called kim_album or kim_compress | 01:30 |
raphink | oh ic | 01:30 |
raphink | so how should I do that ? | 01:30 |
raphink | so I can have one manpage for each binary in my package | 01:30 |
crimsun | DEB_INSTALL_MANPAGES := kim_album.1 kim_compress.1 | 01:31 |
raphink | ok | 01:31 |
raphink | with the : ? | 01:32 |
crimsun | I would, but I don't think it matters | 01:33 |
crimsun | (I'm not a cdbs guru) | 01:33 |
raphink | ok | 01:33 |
raphink | ;) | 01:33 |
raphink | I'll try that | 01:33 |
crimsun | (though it really has more to do with debhelper than cdbs) | 01:33 |
raphink | hmm | 01:34 |
raphink | let's see ;) | 01:34 |
sistpoty | crimsun: may I beg you to upload a package for me? | 01:35 |
crimsun | sistpoty: sure | 01:35 |
sistpoty | http://revu.tauware.de/~sistpoty/uploads/ <- nvtv (source already in the archives) | 01:35 |
raphink | didn't work crimsun :( | 01:35 |
raphink | DEB_INSTALL_MANPAGES := kim_album.1 kim_compress.1 | 01:36 |
raphink | shouldn't it be : | 01:36 |
raphink | DEB_INSTALL_MANPAGES := kim_album.1 kim_compress.1 | 01:36 |
raphink | oosps sorry | 01:36 |
raphink | DEB_INSTALL_MANPAGES_kim = kim_album.1 kim_compress.1 | 01:36 |
raphink | ? | 01:37 |
raphink | yeah :) | 01:38 |
raphink | it works | 01:38 |
raphink | but not in man:/ in konqueror | 01:38 |
raphink | only in console it seems | 01:38 |
sistpoty | you can do man in konqueror? cool :) | 01:39 |
crimsun | err, right, I omitted the _package | 01:39 |
raphink | yep ;) | 01:39 |
raphink | sistpoty: but not all mans, only the kde ones I think | 01:39 |
crimsun | you could also have generated debian/manpages with kim_album.1 and kim_compress.1 as the contents | 01:39 |
raphink | ic | 01:39 |
raphink | haha I'm stupid | 01:40 |
raphink | LOOOOOOOOOOOL | 01:40 |
raphink | I'm sshed on my comp, i'm not home | 01:40 |
sistpoty | hehe | 01:40 |
raphink | so obviously when I installed the package to test it, I did it on my comp there | 01:40 |
raphink | not here | 01:40 |
raphink | so the man worked in console THERE | 01:40 |
raphink | but not in the GUI HERE ;) | 01:40 |
raphink | haha | 01:40 |
raphink | doh | 01:40 |
raphink | ok well so at least it works | 01:41 |
raphink | now I'm not sure of the quality of my manpages :( | 01:41 |
raphink | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4729 | 01:41 |
raphink | is this ^^ good enough for a manapge? | 01:41 |
crimsun | (sec) | 01:42 |
sistpoty | raphink: quite good... maybe you should explain the "quality" usage a little bit better | 01:42 |
raphink | well i'm not the upstream author | 01:43 |
raphink | so it's not easy for me | 01:43 |
raphink | I have to decrypt each script to find out about options | 01:43 |
sistpoty | raphink: as in kim_compress [ -quality <quality> ] (or s.th.) | 01:43 |
raphink | hmmm | 01:43 |
raphink | i'm not sure of the syntax in docbook to write that | 01:44 |
crimsun | sistpoty: uploaded | 01:44 |
sistpoty | crimsun: thx | 01:44 |
crimsun | np | 01:44 |
raphink | I used | 01:44 |
raphink | <refsynopsisdiv> | 01:44 |
raphink | <cmdsynopsis> | 01:44 |
raphink | <command>kim_compress</command> | 01:44 |
raphink | <arg choice="opt"> | 01:44 |
raphink | <option>quality</option> | 01:44 |
raphink | </arg> | 01:45 |
raphink | <arg >image files</arg> | 01:45 |
raphink | </cmdsynopsis> | 01:45 |
raphink | </refsynopsisdiv> | 01:45 |
raphink | not sure this is right | 01:45 |
raphink | (sorry for the little flood) | 01:45 |
raphink | image files are mandatory | 01:45 |
raphink | but -quality is an option | 01:46 |
raphink | mogrify -quality $QUALITY "$FILE" | 01:46 |
sistpoty | raphink: sorry, haven't got really much experience with sgml... I'll try to find an example | 01:46 |
raphink | ok | 01:47 |
raphink | I can't find examples so it's not easy ;) | 01:47 |
raphink | it's apity since all I need to do in this package still is manpages | 01:47 |
sistpoty | raphink: perhaps <arg choice="opt"><option>quality<option><replaceable>n</replaceable> | 01:48 |
raphink | hmm | 01:48 |
sistpoty | i have no clue if this actually works... i just found it somewhere ;) | 01:48 |
raphink | sistpoty: when it says : | 01:48 |
raphink | FILE=""; | 01:48 |
raphink | QUALITY="$1"; | 01:48 |
raphink | DIR="$2"; | 01:48 |
raphink | how are these arguments taken ? | 01:49 |
sistpoty | quality is first argument, dir second... unless there is s.th. like "shift" in it | 01:49 |
raphink | doh I could look in the .desktop to find the answers ;) | 01:50 |
raphink | kim_compress 80 %D | 01:50 |
raphink | that's the kind of entries in teh .desktop files | 01:50 |
raphink | or | 01:50 |
raphink | kim_compress 80 %D | 01:50 |
raphink | oops | 01:50 |
raphink | it's | 01:50 |
raphink | kim_compress 80 %D | 01:50 |
raphink | hmm with % U in the end ;) | 01:51 |
raphink | hehe | 01:51 |
raphink | so I think it must be : kim_compress quality directory image_files | 01:51 |
raphink | so it should be written | 01:52 |
sistpoty | yep... seems so | 01:52 |
raphink | kim_compress [quality] [directory] [image files] ... | 01:52 |
raphink | right? | 01:52 |
raphink | just like lintian is : | 01:52 |
raphink | lintian [action] [options] [packages] ... | 01:52 |
sistpoty | yep. seems good | 01:53 |
raphink | :) | 01:53 |
sistpoty | crimsun: did you try to upload ghc6? that's already there ;) | 01:56 |
crimsun | sistpoty: yes, I punted whatever was in the directory | 01:57 |
crimsun | sorry about the double upload | 01:57 |
sistpoty | crimsun: np... katie rejected it | 01:57 |
sistpoty | crimsun: maybe i should have been more clear ;) | 01:57 |
crimsun | yeah, I've bombed two duplicates in the past day, argh | 01:58 |
ajmitch | slomo_: liferea (0.9.7b+test1.0rc3-1ubuntu1) -- yay for ugly versioning ;) | 01:58 |
sistpoty | hey ajmitch | 01:59 |
ajmitch | hi | 01:59 |
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ajmitch | then 1.0rel when it's released :) | 01:59 |
sistpoty | hehe | 02:00 |
raphink | sistpoty: how about that ? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4732 | 02:00 |
sistpoty | raphink: looks good to me | 02:02 |
raphink | ok :) | 02:02 |
raphink | I'm gonna do them this way :) | 02:02 |
raphink | :) | 02:05 |
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raphink | sistpoty: since I'm going to have many docbooks | 02:08 |
raphink | is it fine if I create a debian/man/ dir | 02:09 |
raphink | and put them there so it's cleaner? | 02:09 |
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sistpoty | raphink: that's up to you ;) | 02:17 |
raphink | ok :) | 02:17 |
sistpoty | raphink: as long as the created files are cleaned | 02:17 |
raphink | of course ;) | 02:17 |
raphink | i just dont' want debian/ to be overcrowded with manpages ;) | 02:18 |
raphink | I think files should be easily found in it | 02:18 |
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raphink | ooo I think I'll finish tomorrow ;) | 02:24 |
sistpoty | hehe | 02:24 |
raphink | heh ;) | 02:26 |
raphink | 6 manpages done ... | 02:26 |
raphink | 8 to go | 02:26 |
sistpoty | raphink: i just took a look at toutf8 again | 02:26 |
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sistpoty | raphink: there isn't anything arch-specific built, is there? | 02:26 |
raphink | sistpoty: I uploaded it again since the dev produced a new version with german | 02:26 |
raphink | nope sistpoty | 02:26 |
raphink | it's just .desktop files | 02:27 |
raphink | so only bin deps and that's it | 02:27 |
raphink | why? | 02:27 |
sistpoty | then it should be Architecture: all (instead of any) | 02:27 |
raphink | oh ic | 02:27 |
raphink | I'll correct it immediatly | 02:27 |
sistpoty | :) | 02:27 |
raphink | Now running lintian... | 02:28 |
raphink | W: toutf8 source: build-depends-without-arch-dep | 02:28 |
raphink | since I put all | 02:28 |
raphink | I mean Architecture : all | 02:28 |
raphink | but I need cdbs to build ;) | 02:28 |
raphink | is taht fine? | 02:28 |
sistpoty | erm... no... there is some way to do it. but I don't know the cdbs way right now ;) | 02:29 |
raphink | I mean obviously the binary doesnt' require a specific arch, but the build does since I use cdbs | 02:29 |
ajmitch | Build-Depends-Indep | 02:29 |
raphink | ajmitch: where do i put that? | 02:29 |
ajmitch | instead of Build-Depends | 02:29 |
sistpoty | thx ajmitch: | 02:29 |
raphink | ok | 02:29 |
raphink | thanks much ajmitch | 02:30 |
raphink | sistpoty: just uploaded it again ;) | 02:31 |
raphink | with Architecture:all and Build-Depends-Indep | 02:31 |
sistpoty | he, have to wait ~4 mins ;) (cron runs every 5 mins to process incoming packages on revu) | 02:31 |
raphink | ok | 02:32 |
raphink | i've worked again on kio-sword and knmap | 02:32 |
raphink | i think they should be fine by now | 02:32 |
raphink | and kim is not ready since I have to finish all these manpages ;) | 02:33 |
sistpoty | ok | 02:33 |
raphink | :) | 02:33 |
sistpoty | but I can't promise I'll review all of them today ;) | 02:33 |
ajmitch | sigh, I think my ISP's transparent proxy is breaking things badly today | 02:34 |
sistpoty | omg | 02:34 |
raphink | ajmitch: :( sorry to hear that | 02:34 |
ajmitch | lots of packages are failing to fetch, & it stops at the same place | 02:34 |
raphink | sistpoty: I guess kim should also be Architecture:all since it's a collection of bash scripts ;) | 02:35 |
sistpoty | raphink: yep | 02:35 |
sistpoty | raphink: everything that doesn't get binary/arch-specific stuff built should be "all" | 02:35 |
raphink | ok | 02:35 |
raphink | :) | 02:35 |
raphink | sistpoty: toutf8 is up now :) | 02:37 |
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sistpoty | raphink: toutf8 advocated ;) | 02:41 |
raphink | thanks sistpoty :) | 02:41 |
sistpoty | thanks for your contribution, raphink | 02:41 |
raphink | it's a pleasure :) | 02:41 |
ajmitch | I guess I can't upload but I can still prepare stuff & still review ;) | 02:41 |
raphink | I hope I can contribute more in the future :) | 02:41 |
sistpoty | :) | 02:42 |
crimsun | ajmitch: you can upload to universe, though? | 02:42 |
ajmitch | crimsun: nope | 02:42 |
crimsun | gah | 02:42 |
ajmitch | raphink: perhaps toutf8 could be named better to indicate it's for konqueror? | 02:43 |
raphink | hmm | 02:43 |
raphink | well that's the name the dev gave to it | 02:43 |
ajmitch | I know | 02:43 |
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ajmitch | but we often rename things to fit with policy :) | 02:43 |
raphink | if you search for konqueror, you'll find toutf8 | 02:43 |
raphink | ok | 02:43 |
raphink | hmm | 02:44 |
ajmitch | crimsun: since I had to replace my gpg key I can't do anything | 02:44 |
raphink | konq-toutf8 ? | 02:44 |
raphink | I'll see about that tomorow | 02:45 |
ajmitch | if Riddell was around still you could check with him | 02:45 |
raphink | it's too late now ;) | 02:45 |
raphink | I'll ask Riddell tomorrow ;) | 02:45 |
ajmitch | he'd know more than I would about KDE naming :) | 02:45 |
sistpoty | for sure ;) | 02:45 |
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raphink | now it's almost 3AM i need to sleep | 02:45 |
sistpoty | gnight raphink | 02:45 |
raphink | good night | 02:45 |
raphink | :) | 02:45 |
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zul | damn postal office | 02:47 |
ajmitch | I know I didn't leave it behind in canada, so I suspect I never took it with me in the first place | 02:47 |
Riddell | hmm? | 02:49 |
ajmitch | Riddell: you're up late | 02:49 |
ajmitch | just a question about naming a small package for konqueror service menus | 02:50 |
Riddell | ajmitch: I have flight-1 candidate CDs to test | 02:50 |
Riddell | konq-toutf8 seems sensible to me | 02:50 |
ajmitch | ok | 02:50 |
ajmitch | lucky you, I hope it goes smoothly :) | 02:51 |
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magnon | siretart: ping | 05:07 |
magnon | might be a tad early :) | 05:07 |
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LaserJock | MOTUScience folks check out the wiki, I added source package lists from lucas's program | 07:19 |
minghua | LaserJock: nice list | 07:23 |
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LaserJock | minghua: hmm, I haven't completely checked it out. I'm sure there are some bugs ;-) | 07:24 |
LaserJock | I wanted a place where we can see what we have and especially the debian-ubuntu version comparison | 07:25 |
minghua | Hmm, and tetex-bin and tetex-base is not in the TeX section list | 07:27 |
LaserJock | they are in main I think | 07:27 |
minghua | I see | 07:28 |
LaserJock | I specifically wanted to just do universe | 07:31 |
LaserJock | but it might be worth having another list for main, etc. so we can get a fuller picture | 07:31 |
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zakame | hi all | 09:17 |
crimsun | hi | 09:19 |
zakame | heh, brownout here in my locality :( | 09:22 |
zakame | can any motu please revu libmemcache? thanks in advance :) | 09:25 |
Kmirno | Hello someone in USA ? | 09:31 |
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Kmirno | Could someone in USA please wget http://tools.letsgozik.com/bigtest and tell me the ko/s rate ? | 09:32 |
Kmirno | (don't need to d/l it fully, just need the rate) | 09:32 |
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zakame | hmmm, does ubuntu have an equivalent of packages.qa.debian.org? or is this served by launchpad? | 09:50 |
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minghua | Am I the only one getting "can't find /etc/shadow" error in pbuilder chroot? | 10:02 |
crimsun | nope | 10:02 |
minghua | zakame: Not that I'm aware of | 10:02 |
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crimsun | minghua: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=338976 | 10:03 |
crimsun | just needs to be merged | 10:04 |
minghua | crimsun: thanks for the pointer | 10:05 |
crimsun | ogra actually pointed it to me :) | 10:05 |
minghua | crimsun: so the current work around is just login and touch /etc/passwd? | 10:06 |
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minghua | how did you guys solve this problem? | 10:07 |
minghua | Hmm, maybe I can just modify the pbuilder script myself | 10:07 |
minghua | that would be dirty though... | 10:07 |
crimsun | modifying it per Markus Kolb's 2-line patch is recommended until someone merges 0.139 | 10:09 |
minghua | crimsun: yeah, I figure that would be easier than other solutions | 10:10 |
minghua | crimsun: thanks a lot :-) | 10:10 |
crimsun | np | 10:11 |
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minghua_ | so dapper cleaned up /usr/X11R6/ completely? Gah. | 10:43 |
minghua_ | seems I've got a tough package to merge, then | 10:43 |
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sivang | mornig all | 11:02 |
crimsun | hi | 11:02 |
Gloubiboulga | Is there any way to clean a chroot ? | 11:07 |
Kmirno | Gloubiboulga: rm -Rf is pretty good | 11:08 |
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Gloubiboulga | Kmirno: sure :) | 11:08 |
Gloubiboulga | but is there an other way ? | 11:09 |
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minghua_ | hardcoded /usr/X11R6/include/X11/ path is EVIL | 11:16 |
crimsun | quite | 11:16 |
minghua_ | Gloubiboulga: for pbuilder there is an clean command, but it will clean your cache as well | 11:17 |
minghua_ | so I won't use it again :-( | 11:17 |
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Gloubiboulga | so rm -Rf is the solution | 11:22 |
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siretart | Gloubiboulga: some people are proposing using lvm, and working on snapshopts. that way you can recreate a clean chroot easily by doing the 'lvcreate -s /dev/vg00/chroots ... ' magic | 11:25 |
zakame | hello all | 11:25 |
Gloubiboulga | siretart: seems interesting | 11:26 |
Gloubiboulga | I'll have a look at this | 11:26 |
siretart | Gloubiboulga: it uses copy on write (cow) techniques. So i/o operations are very cheap | 11:27 |
zakame | cow! | 11:29 |
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asbin | hi everybody | 11:33 |
asbin | I have some questions about how to make a new package for ubunutu ... | 11:33 |
asbin | is it the right place ? | 11:33 |
zakame | asbin: have you read DeveloperResources on the wiki? :) | 11:34 |
asbin | yes I have read a lot of pages on the wiki, but I have not found all answers ;) | 11:34 |
asbin | I am one of the developpers of GeeXboX, a multimedia player | 11:35 |
zakame | asbin: ooh | 11:36 |
asbin | and I maintain the deb. packages, so my questions are not about how to make a package, but how to put it in ubuntu (and/or Debian) repository | 11:37 |
zakame | ah | 11:39 |
asbin | I've also a package for ushare, a lightweight UPnP A/V Media Server, that we can use with geexbox (and others upnp clients..) | 11:40 |
zakame | what's the url for this? | 11:41 |
asbin | http://www.geexbox.org and http://ushare.geexbox.org | 11:41 |
asbin | I've tried to upload ushare on REVU, but I was'nt in the database at this moment (now it's ok, but files are still on the server) | 11:42 |
zakame | hmm, have you gotten your gpg key signed? | 11:46 |
asbin | yes, and sent it by email ... | 11:47 |
asbin | but I've upload the source/package on REVU to soon :( | 11:47 |
minghua_ | asbin: you should receive a reply about your key getting added to revu keyring | 11:48 |
asbin | yes, i've received it ;) | 11:49 |
siretart | asbin: are u talking about ushare? | 11:49 |
asbin | yes | 11:50 |
zakame | hmm, it's not there in revu... does it go by that name? | 11:50 |
siretart | asbin: done | 11:50 |
asbin | ok. thank you ! | 11:51 |
siretart | who uploaded ksplash-engine-moodin? | 11:51 |
jpatrick | siretart: I did | 11:51 |
asbin | should I upload source+package or just the package ? | 11:51 |
siretart | jpatrick: please don't upload binary packages, we can only process sourceful uploads! | 11:51 |
siretart | asbin: just the source | 11:51 |
siretart | and please always with FULL source (i.e. with .orig.tar.gz) | 11:52 |
jpatrick | siretart: sorry | 11:52 |
asbin | ok ;) | 11:52 |
zakame | there, i see ushare already | 11:52 |
siretart | jpatrick: no problem. I just deleted your upload, because there was no source included | 11:53 |
jpatrick | siretart: how do I stop the .deb from being uploaded? | 11:53 |
siretart | sure, I just run process_uploads manually ;) | 11:53 |
siretart | jpatrick: use `dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa`, just as instructed on the wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU | 11:53 |
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zakame | asbin: hmmm, your .diff.gz is just a diff on changelog? where's the ./debian? | 11:54 |
zakame | asbin: ah, it's in the .orig.tar.gz... | 11:56 |
minghua_ | if I made my own merge, I should change the "MoM" line from scott's page to the REVU page of my uploaded package, right? | 11:56 |
asbin | yes, as I'm one of the maintainer, debian dir is on the arch repository | 11:57 |
siretart | please rather dont use revu for merges for now | 11:58 |
siretart | revu is not that suited for that kind of work, until we dont can see the debdiffs directly | 11:58 |
zakame | asbin: is this debian-dir on a separate version/branch? | 11:58 |
siretart | I'm working on that, but dont expect results too soon | 11:58 |
zakame | minghua_: or a debdiff | 11:58 |
jpatrick | siretart: so full command is: dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot -kSOMEKEY | 11:59 |
mirak | minghua_: generally I find it a bit dumb to have all path hardcoded at compilation | 11:59 |
siretart | jpatrick: yes, that would work | 11:59 |
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minghua_ | siretart: ah, sorry, I won't use REVU next time | 12:01 |
jpatrick | siretart: reuploading | 12:01 |
minghua_ | mirak: yeah, but in this case it's not that bad, everything are in a Make.dep file | 12:01 |
siretart | minghua_: no need to sorry, we really appreciate your work | 12:02 |
siretart | minghua_: I just don't think that revu will help to get your contribution processed quickly | 12:02 |
asbin | Ok, great, and now that the package is on REVU, and when everything will be ok, what can I do to put it on ubuntu repository ? | 12:03 |
zakame | indeed, there seems to be a backlog of NEW packages :( | 12:03 |
jpatrick | siretart: I thought it had a *.orig.tar.gz | 12:09 |
minghua_ | the MOTOToMerge page says I need to get my name and email white-listed on dapper-changes, how can I do that? | 12:10 |
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siretart | jpatrick: check the _source.changes file | 12:15 |
siretart | minghua_: I think wiki.ubuntu.com/Uploads explains the process | 12:16 |
siretart | minghua_: feel free to set a link to that page | 12:16 |
jpatrick | package is there: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=959 | 12:17 |
siretart | jpatrick: your package fails to build from source :( | 12:24 |
zakame | siretart: after jpatrick's can you check libmemcache too? :) | 12:26 |
jpatrick | siretart: I should of added ksplash to the control file for build-deps | 12:27 |
minghua_ | siretart: My understanding is that I need to apply as new maintainer, is that the only way to get my upload white-listed? | 12:28 |
siretart | minghua_: no, you just need to ask elmo to get you added to the whitelist | 12:29 |
siretart | minghua_: hint: *@ubuntu.com is autowhitelisted, so you 'just' need to become member ;) | 12:29 |
minghua_ | siretart: I see, so that's going to be upload@ubuntulinux.org for asking to be added, right? | 12:29 |
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siretart | minghua_: I think so, yes | 12:30 |
siretart | morning Fuddl! | 12:30 |
Fuddl | hi siretart | 12:30 |
minghua_ | siretart: thanks, I'm going to do that next then | 12:30 |
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jpatrick | siretart: reuploaded | 12:38 |
minghua_ | good night everyone | 12:49 |
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SloMoSnail | ajmitch: but it's not my fault this time :P btw, new avahi :) | 01:06 |
Lathiat | slomo, ajmitch: mmm i think the major change will be the new comapt libraries | 01:27 |
Lathiat | we should look at some kind of extra extra package that makes the avahi-howl and avahi-bonjour compat libraries also install howl.pc/libdns-sd.so etc | 01:27 |
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zakame | hi | 02:11 |
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ctd | dear motu, i have found you a new image. http://data.4chan.org/b/src/1132402828160.jpg - love, ctd. | 02:29 |
zakame | buwahaha | 02:30 |
zakame | ctd: actually, that was what I had in mind when I first heard of motu :) thanks for reminding me :)) | 02:31 |
Lathiat | ctd: heh | 02:31 |
zakame | hmmm, netatalk doesn't seem to build, build-deps not met as libdb4.2-dev removes heimdal-dev and kerberos4kth-dev, all of which build-depended on by netatalk :( | 02:36 |
zakame | what should I do? | 02:36 |
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zakame | eh? | 03:06 |
zakame | siretart: did you pbuilt my libmemcache? if so, thanks :) | 03:07 |
zakame | I saw its page in revu populated with the built debs | 03:07 |
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zakame | hey pef :) | 03:09 |
pef | hello | 03:09 |
Gloubiboulga | hi pef | 03:09 |
pef | Gloubiboulga: hi, I'm checking denemo | 03:11 |
Gloubiboulga | thanks pef :) | 03:12 |
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Gloubiboulga | is my package that bad pef ? ;) | 03:13 |
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pef | Gloubiboulga: I'm doing more thing in the same time :) | 03:25 |
pef | things | 03:25 |
slomo | zakame: standards version 3.6.2 is sufficient... 3.6.2.X are only versions with cosmetical changes ;) | 03:29 |
zakame | slomo: yes, ajmitch told me that yesterday :) | 03:29 |
pef | Gloubiboulga: updated | 03:29 |
zakame | however, if I see 3.6.5, can I still update that to 3.6.2.1? | 03:29 |
Gloubiboulga | ok pef | 03:29 |
slomo | zakame: 3.6.1.5? sure... but if this is the only change you do don't do it... | 03:30 |
zakame | slomo: ok... as for nss-mdns, that's true | 03:31 |
slomo | zakame: no, you changed more than that... added avahi-daemon to recommends... so it's fine :) | 03:31 |
zakame | actually its 3.6.1 , and for that pkg mdnsresponder doesn't seem to be in dapper anymore | 03:32 |
slomo | zakame: wasn't even in breezy... we have avahi-daemon now | 03:32 |
zakame | slomo: ooh, so you're looking at it now, thanks :) | 03:32 |
zakame | ah ok :) | 03:32 |
slomo | zakame: just a quick look over... when you send me a mail with all pending uploads by you i will process them later today or tomorrow :) | 03:32 |
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zakame | slomo: ok, many many thanks :D | 03:33 |
slomo | zakame: slomo@ubuntu.com | 03:34 |
zakame | got it | 03:34 |
Gloubiboulga | pef: new upload | 03:41 |
pef | Gloubiboulga: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/denemo-0511190940/denemo_0.7.4-0ubuntu1.diff lilypond still here ? | 03:42 |
Gloubiboulga | hum... | 03:42 |
Gloubiboulga | something went wrong... | 03:42 |
zakame | slomo, pef: can you check libmemcache at REVU too? thanks :) | 03:44 |
pef | zakame: sure | 03:45 |
zakame | pef: thanks! :) | 03:46 |
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Gloubiboulga | pef: LilyPond is dead ;) | 03:51 |
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zakame | wb hunger | 03:52 |
hunger | hi zakame. | 03:52 |
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zakame | hey bmonty_laptop | 03:53 |
bmonty_laptop | hi zakame | 03:54 |
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zakame | good night all :D | 04:20 |
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raphink | anyone can review my kim packages ? :) | 05:13 |
raphink | please ;) | 05:16 |
hunger | raphink: nope, I won't. | 05:16 |
raphink | :( :( | 05:16 |
slomo_ | what is kim? | 05:19 |
raphink | a set a servicemenu scripts for konqueror | 05:20 |
raphink | to manage images | 05:20 |
raphink | like convert, compress, rename, rotate, etc. | 05:20 |
slomo_ | hmm... i know nothing about kde but i can review it for everything else tomorrow | 05:21 |
Kyral | slomo_, you made the cowbell package right? | 05:22 |
slomo_ | yes | 05:23 |
Kyral | You know if an ebuild for Gentoo exists? | 05:23 |
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Kyral | I showed it to a friend | 05:24 |
Kyral | and he loves it, but he runs Gentoo :P | 05:24 |
slomo_ | no idea | 05:24 |
slomo_ | write one if there is none ;) | 05:24 |
Kyral | I barely have a grasp of Debian Packages, how the heck am I supposed to learn how to make eBuilds?! | 05:25 |
slomo_ | ebuilds are easier imho | 05:26 |
Kyral | But it would require me to install Gentoo :P | 05:26 |
slomo_ | yes | 05:26 |
Kyral | unless there happen to be eBuild tools for Debian systems :P | 05:26 |
slomo_ | well, say him to compile it by hand or open a bug on their bts | 05:26 |
Kyral | wait a second..VMWare released a their "player" for free right? | 05:26 |
Kyral | so if I can make a VMWare image with our legit copy of VMWare in the labs, I can use the player on my computer and emulated Gentoo for these purposes | 05:28 |
Kyral | ironic. As soon as my friends who use Linux found out I can make packages, they want me to make packages for them | 05:30 |
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Kyral | Except almost none of them are Debian Packages | 05:30 |
Kyral | ie, my friend wants me to make a Pacman package for Beagle so he can install it on ArchLinux | 05:30 |
siretart | poor Kyral | 05:33 |
siretart | ;) | 05:33 |
Kyral | Its flatterring | 05:33 |
Kyral | :D | 05:33 |
Kyral | Oh are anyone's PBuilders broken as of late? | 05:34 |
slomo_ | shadow? | 05:34 |
Kyral | yah | 05:34 |
slomo_ | pbuilder login --save-after-login | 05:34 |
slomo_ | touch /etc/shadow | 05:34 |
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Kyral | cool thanks | 05:34 |
slomo_ | fixed it for me | 05:35 |
Kyral | After Kenshin ;P | 05:35 |
lfittl | slomo_: Maybe we could add that information to the PbuilderHowto wiki page? | 05:36 |
Kyral | Should I add a note about multiple ones? At least the way I do it? | 05:36 |
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Kyral | Has anyone seen the movie Revolution OS? | 05:39 |
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Riddell | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=940 may be ready for upload | 07:03 |
ompaul | Kyral, yes but that would be more a topic for #ubuntu-offtopic more for chats | 07:04 |
ajmitch | +Copyright: 2005 | 07:05 |
ajmitch | + - Lethalman <lethalman88@gmail.com> | 07:05 |
ajmitch | + - Slash <immigrant@email.it> | 07:05 |
ajmitch | got to love copyright statements like that ;) | 07:05 |
ompaul | ajmitch, well depends on the software | 07:07 |
ompaul | :-) | 07:07 |
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pef | siretart: hello, can you please change my login email on REVU, loic@dev.erodia.net by loic@ubuntu.com ? thanks ! | 07:20 |
Riddell | do we only need two reviews for new MOTU packages now? gwenrename is in ready to upload | 07:31 |
ajmitch | yes | 07:31 |
Riddell | when did that change? | 07:32 |
slomo_ | months ago ;) | 07:32 |
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LaserJock | I don't suppose I could get a MOTU or 2 to review plotdrop? | 07:48 |
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raphink | Riddell: changes applied and uploaded again :) | 08:05 |
Riddell | raphink: to which? | 08:05 |
raphink | Riddell: kio-sword :) | 08:12 |
raphink | the one you reviewed just before ;) | 08:12 |
Riddell | I have reviewed many packages today | 08:12 |
raphink | :) | 08:13 |
raphink | ok I had not seen the other reviews yet sorry | 08:13 |
raphink | i'll work on the other ones soon | 08:13 |
lfittl | siretart: ping | 08:23 |
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pef | LaserJock: why not ? :) | 08:32 |
LaserJock | pef: well, I know that you guys are busy so I don't want to be a pain | 08:33 |
pef | LaserJock: I'm reviewing it | 08:33 |
LaserJock | pefa: cool, it's my first package from scratch | 08:33 |
lfittl | pef: If you have time, could you review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=970 too? | 08:34 |
pef | will do the 2 reviews this evening :) | 08:35 |
lfittl | :) | 08:36 |
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raphink | Riddell: the dpkg-divert in kim is because some kim functions are redundant with other konqueror servicemenus included in konq-plugins. The original package used a mv to ~ at install and mv from ~ at deinstall. I chose to use dpkg-divert instead. | 08:48 |
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foampeac1 | hello | 10:04 |
jpatrick | hi | 10:04 |
foampeace | maybe im silly | 10:05 |
foampeace | but i compiled this beep media player alarm | 10:05 |
foampeace | its a deb in the breezy | 10:05 |
foampeace | i just wondering about contributing it | 10:05 |
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foampeace | i have the deb package | 10:06 |
jpatrick | foampeace: do you have a GPG Key? | 10:06 |
foampeace | jpatrick: i dont know what that is | 10:06 |
jpatrick | GNU Privacy Guard Key | 10:07 |
foampeace | ok | 10:07 |
foampeace | i just found this source on the web and had to compile and thought it would go well with beep media playe like theone for xmms | 10:08 |
foampeace | because beep seems to be more solid | 10:08 |
foampeace | the beep media play alarm that is | 10:08 |
foampeace | Whats a maintainer | 10:09 |
jpatrick | foampeace: a Debian package builder | 10:10 |
foampeace | oh and i just did this didnt i | 10:10 |
foampeace | hehe :> | 10:10 |
foampeace | are you a master of the universe? | 10:12 |
jpatrick | foampeace: no | 10:12 |
jpatrick | you have to run "gpg --gen-key" in the console | 10:13 |
jpatrick | Make the key | 10:14 |
foampeace | for what | 10:16 |
jpatrick | so you can be added to the uploaders list of REVU | 10:17 |
foampeace | Please select what kind of key you want: (1) DSA and Elgamal (default) (2) DSA (sign only) (5) RSA (sign only) | 10:18 |
raphink | default foampeace | 10:18 |
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raphink | foampeace: when you make yourself a key | 10:18 |
raphink | try to launch a lot of programs | 10:19 |
raphink | like music, video, 3D stuff | 10:19 |
foampeace | im sorry? | 10:19 |
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foampeace | raphink: you mean submit those? | 10:19 |
raphink | nope foampeace | 10:19 |
raphink | I mean run a lot of programs while creating your key, which is what y'oure doing now | 10:20 |
raphink | to create a key, your computer has to generate random strings | 10:20 |
jpatrick | helps the process | 10:20 |
raphink | the more programs you run at the same time, the more random the strings will be | 10:20 |
raphink | and the better the key will be | 10:20 |
foampeace | heheh | 10:20 |
foampeace | i dont understand | 10:20 |
raphink | anyhow, if you don't run many programs, gpg might tell you to do so | 10:20 |
raphink | well foampeace | 10:20 |
raphink | do you know what a pgp key is? | 10:21 |
foampeace | pgp or gpg? | 10:21 |
tseng | gpg is an implementation of pgp | 10:21 |
foampeace | no i dont but im searching for docs | 10:21 |
raphink | gpg is an open source equivalent of pgp | 10:21 |
raphink | well implementation yes tseng :) | 10:21 |
raphink | foampeace: a pgp (or gpg) key is something that can identify you personaly | 10:22 |
foampeace | im reading this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey?action=show&redirect=GetYourKeySigned | 10:22 |
raphink | foampeace: with a pgp key, you can sign files or emails | 10:22 |
tseng | uh oh | 10:22 |
tseng | i think i wrote part of that | 10:22 |
raphink | haha | 10:22 |
raphink | ;) | 10:22 |
tseng | you'd better stop while you're ahead | 10:22 |
raphink | foampeace: when you create a key, you set a passphrase (or password) for it | 10:23 |
raphink | so you are the only person able to use your key, since you're the only one knowing the password | 10:23 |
raphink | your key contains informations on you | 10:23 |
foampeace | i want to contribute...so i have to take baby steps here | 10:23 |
raphink | yes foampeace | 10:24 |
jpatrick | foampeace: it also creates a public key | 10:24 |
raphink | foampeace: when you contribute by making packages | 10:24 |
raphink | you have to have a pgp key | 10:24 |
raphink | in order to sign your packages | 10:24 |
raphink | so you can testify that you (and no one else) have been doing this work | 10:24 |
foampeace | pgp or gpg key...doesnt matter? | 10:24 |
raphink | foampeace: you'll use gpg to create a pgp key | 10:24 |
raphink | ;) | 10:24 |
foampeace | ok but i didnt creat the source for this i just made it into a deb | 10:25 |
raphink | you need to sign your deb foampeace | 10:25 |
raphink | so you need a key for that | 10:25 |
foampeace | ok | 10:25 |
foampeace | ill try | 10:26 |
raphink | creating a key doesn't take much time | 10:26 |
jpatrick | foampeace: and you need the key to upload to REVU | 10:26 |
raphink | it's far easier than making packages ;) | 10:26 |
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raphink | and you might need your key for many other things than just packaging | 10:27 |
jpatrick | emails, files, etc | 10:27 |
raphink | pgp keys are used to manage trust networks | 10:28 |
raphink | with your key, you can sign other keys | 10:28 |
foampeace | raphink: i the comment to be shown somewhere? | 10:28 |
raphink | when you sign a key, you testify that you know for sure the holder of this key | 10:28 |
raphink | don't put comments foampeace | 10:28 |
raphink | your name will look like this : | 10:28 |
jpatrick | I did | 10:28 |
raphink | First Last (Comment) | 10:29 |
raphink | so if yo uput a comment | 10:29 |
raphink | you'll have to put it everywhere | 10:29 |
raphink | otherwise you won't be able to sign with this id | 10:29 |
raphink | ;) | 10:29 |
foampeace | passphrase is a password? | 10:29 |
raphink | yes foampeace | 10:29 |
jpatrick | foampeace: don't tell it to anyone | 10:30 |
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foampeace | ok i made it | 10:34 |
raphink | good | 10:34 |
raphink | now your key can be used for many things | 10:34 |
raphink | you can for example sign your messages in your mail client | 10:34 |
raphink | so people can be sure you are the writer and it's not spam | 10:34 |
raphink | or you can encrypt messages so they can be read only by holders of another given key | 10:35 |
jpatrick | foampeace: run gpg --list-keys to see it | 10:35 |
raphink | etc.? | 10:35 |
raphink | etc. | 10:35 |
foampeace | jpatrick: i have to export the key? | 10:35 |
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raphink | you can export it foampeace | 10:35 |
Gloubi|To_Paris | good night | 10:35 |
raphink | so people can find it on the internet | 10:36 |
jpatrick | foampeace: there should be a 'pub' line | 10:36 |
jpatrick | foampeace: like 'pub 1024D/F4944AEE' | 10:36 |
foampeace | yes | 10:37 |
jpatrick | the F4944AEE bit is what you want | 10:37 |
jpatrick | run 'gpg -k keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-keys $YOURKEYID' | 10:38 |
foampeace | first last name is my "user name" for export? | 10:38 |
foampeace | so its $F4944AEE? | 10:40 |
foampeace | but my own | 10:40 |
foampeace | or without the $ dollar sign | 10:41 |
raphink | you can tell this reference foampeace | 10:41 |
raphink | it's no secret | 10:41 |
raphink | this is your public key | 10:41 |
raphink | so anyone can know it | 10:41 |
raphink | and it's without the $ sign | 10:42 |
raphink | jpatrick just used $YOURKEYID meaning that it's a variable to be replaced by your id | 10:42 |
foampeace | ok i sent the key | 10:42 |
raphink | good :) | 10:43 |
foampeace | Meet, verify your IDs and exchange fingerprints ?! | 10:43 |
raphink | that's when you meet people | 10:44 |
raphink | for keysigning parties | 10:44 |
raphink | you'll have time to know about this ;) | 10:44 |
jpatrick | night guys | 10:44 |
foampeace | copy the content of public.key...whered this go | 10:47 |
raphink | foampeace: in order to sign to the keyring to upload your package | 10:47 |
raphink | you need to set your email client | 10:47 |
raphink | that's the next step | 10:47 |
raphink | so you can sign emails with your key | 10:47 |
raphink | what email client are you using foampeace ? | 10:48 |
foampeace | just web based email | 10:48 |
foampeace | i need one? | 10:48 |
raphink | that won't make it I'm afraid | 10:48 |
foampeace | i can use one for this | 10:48 |
raphink | I don't think you can sign emails with web interfaces | 10:48 |
raphink | do you use gnome of kde ? | 10:49 |
foampeace | ya i have sylpheed i can try that | 10:49 |
raphink | I won't be able to help you with this. Dunno what it is | 10:49 |
foampeace | know of another? | 10:49 |
raphink | if you answer my question, sure ;) | 10:49 |
raphink | are you using gnome or kde ? | 10:50 |
foampeace | http://pgp.mit.edu/ is where i enter ######## ? | 10:50 |
raphink | ?? | 10:50 |
foampeace | i use gnome | 10:50 |
raphink | you could use evolution for ex | 10:51 |
raphink | any gnome user here to support foampeace ? ;) | 10:51 |
foampeace | ya i find it strange | 10:51 |
foampeace | evolitions | 10:51 |
raphink | I don't know many gnome-based clients | 10:51 |
raphink | i don't use gnome | 10:51 |
minghua | raphink: support for what? finding a email client? | 10:51 |
foampeace | sylpheed supposed to be good | 10:51 |
raphink | minghua: foampeace just created a pgp key | 10:51 |
minghua | raphink: sorry, that part I can't help, I use mutt myself | 10:52 |
raphink | hehe ok | 10:52 |
raphink | ;) | 10:52 |
raphink | I could help with kmail | 10:52 |
raphink | but i'm ignorant of gnome-based solutions | 10:52 |
minghua | but gnome users should consider thunderbird | 10:52 |
foampeace | can you explain what this means? # | 10:52 |
foampeace | can you explain what this means? Copy the content of public.key: | 10:53 |
foampeace | # | 10:53 |
foampeace | Open [WWW] http://pgp.mit.edu in a browser window. | 10:53 |
raphink | good one, yes | 10:53 |
raphink | what are you doing foampeace ? | 10:53 |
raphink | why do you need that? | 10:53 |
minghua | and I bet you can find thousands of articles about setting up gpg in thunderbird through google | 10:53 |
raphink | yes minghua | 10:53 |
raphink | pretty sure | 10:53 |
foampeace | Copy the content of public.key: | 10:53 |
foampeace | paste to site | 10:53 |
raphink | foampeace: where did you find that and why do you need to do that? | 10:54 |
foampeace | raphink: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey?action=show&redirect=GetYourKeySigned | 10:54 |
foampeace | topic is get your key signed | 10:54 |
foampeace | i mean submit your key | 10:54 |
foampeace | ok ill get thunderbird | 10:54 |
raphink | you don't need to go to mit.edu for that | 10:55 |
foampeace | raphink: ok i assume the line before that was the same thing? xport Your Key | 10:56 |
foampeace | gpg --export -a "User Name" > public.key | 10:56 |
raphink | you don't need taht foampeace | 10:57 |
raphink | you're not going to a keysigning party | 10:57 |
foampeace | Using GnuPG: | 10:57 |
foampeace | gpg --send-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <KEYID> | 10:57 |
raphink | this you did already | 10:57 |
raphink | you just need to set thunderbird now | 10:57 |
raphink | that's it | 10:57 |
foampeace | ya | 10:57 |
foampeace | k | 10:57 |
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foampeace | so i can contribute anything with this key beside packages? | 11:01 |
LaserJock | how do I know if my key is in the strong set ? | 11:01 |
Kyral | Keysigning parties are fun :D | 11:01 |
Kyral | LaserJock you have to get it signed by one of the MOTUs I think | 11:01 |
foampeace | Kyral: what are keysigning parties? | 11:01 |
LaserJock | Kyral: only a MOTU? | 11:02 |
Kyral | Like I think mine is b/c dholbach signed it | 11:02 |
Kyral | LaserJock, or someone else in the Strong Set | 11:02 |
raphink | LaserJock: check if you have a direct path to ogra for example | 11:02 |
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Kyral | oyah dangit | 11:02 |
Kyral | I gotta sign ogra's too | 11:02 |
raphink | hehe | 11:03 |
Kyral | we exchanged fingerprints at Ubuntu Love | 11:03 |
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foampeace | fingerprints in person? | 11:03 |
raphink | LaserJock: check with mine, i'm in the strongest : http://pgp.raphink.net | 11:03 |
foampeace | :) | 11:03 |
LaserJock | ok, well I had a key signed by someone that is listed in the strong set on biglumber.com but now it says that I am not in the strong set | 11:03 |
Kyral | Yah you have to verify | 11:03 |
Kyral | How do you check to see if its in the Strong Set anyway? | 11:03 |
raphink | Kyral: by checking for a direct path to a person in the strong set | 11:04 |
raphink | if I'm not wrong | 11:04 |
Kyral | and dholbach is in the strong set right? | 11:04 |
raphink | hmm dunno | 11:04 |
raphink | ogra told me I am | 11:04 |
raphink | so you can check with mine ;) | 11:04 |
Kyral | Strong Set is for Main Uploading right? | 11:06 |
raphink | I don't think so Kyral | 11:07 |
raphink | (but i might be wrong) | 11:07 |
raphink | Kyral: http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/plot/ | 11:07 |
Kyral | Hey ogra you still have my Fingerprint? | 11:07 |
raphink | the strong set has nothing to do with distros i think | 11:07 |
LaserJock | ok, but the person who signed my key is in the strong set but I'm not, how come? | 11:08 |
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raphink | how do you know you're not in the strong set LaserJock ? | 11:08 |
LaserJock | raphink: it says on biglumber and I can't get a path to your key | 11:09 |
LaserJock | raphink: but I can get a path from him to you | 11:09 |
raphink | did you go to my page and entered your ID LaserJock ? | 11:09 |
LaserJock | raphink: yep | 11:09 |
raphink | hmmm | 11:09 |
raphink | what is it? | 11:09 |
LaserJock | 92742B33 | 11:09 |
raphink | has your key been exported to the public servers? | 11:10 |
raphink | I guess not | 11:10 |
raphink | ;) | 11:10 |
Kyral | linkage | 11:10 |
Kyral | http://www.cs.uu.nl/people/henkp/henkp/pgp/pathfinder/mk_path.cgi?FROM=0F1A6639&TO=74BF771E&PATHS=trust+paths | 11:10 |
LaserJock | raphink: it should be | 11:10 |
Kyral | I forgot that Simon signed my key | 11:10 |
LaserJock | raphink: it's on biglumber and mit | 11:10 |
raphink | LaserJock: export it to a keyserver | 11:10 |
LaserJock | raphink: export what? my key | 11:11 |
raphink | Kyral: there's no worry about your key i think ;) | 11:11 |
Kyral | Yah | 11:11 |
raphink | yes LaserJock | 11:11 |
raphink | export it to pgpkeys.mit.edu for example | 11:12 |
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LaserJock | raphink: I'm already on there but I will do it again I guess | 11:13 |
raphink | ok | 11:13 |
Kyral | whats the command to sign a key so you can attach it to an email? | 11:14 |
raphink | Kyral: you shouldn't sign keys without meeting the holder | 11:14 |
Kyral | raphink, I did | 11:14 |
raphink | taht's not good :p | 11:14 |
Kyral | I just haven't had time to sign Ogra's key | 11:14 |
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Kyral | raphink, I know all about the trust thing | 11:15 |
Kyral | I'm just wondering if ogra is actually awake ;P | 11:16 |
raphink | lol | 11:16 |
raphink | well I guess you know the consequences of signing keys without being sure of the holder | 11:16 |
raphink | ;) | 11:16 |
Kyral | Deadmeat | 11:16 |
raphink | loool | 11:17 |
Kyral | I have his business card sitting right in front of me | 11:17 |
raphink | ok | 11:17 |
raphink | :) | 11:17 |
Kyral | I'll hold off on sending the key out to the server until he's around | 11:18 |
raphink | :) | 11:20 |
Kyral | It was amusing at Ubuntu Love | 11:20 |
raphink | what is taht? | 11:20 |
Kyral | I had forgotten to print out my keyprints | 11:20 |
Kyral | the first day of Ubuntu Below Zero | 11:20 |
Kyral | so I had used one of my friend's laptops to SSH into a server on campus, then SSH from there into my box in my room. Then I copied the fingerprint, printed it out to a wireless LAN connected printer :P | 11:21 |
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raphink | hehe | 11:22 |
raphink | barbarian ;) | 11:22 |
Kyral | what? | 11:22 |
raphink | how come you have ssh access on the comps of your campus? | 11:23 |
Kyral | We have webspace | 11:23 |
raphink | ok | 11:23 |
Kyral | so to get in | 11:23 |
raphink | good thing they give you ssh | 11:23 |
raphink | they could have only given ftp | 11:23 |
Kyral | and my firewall is configured to block SSH attempts from off-campus | 11:23 |
raphink | ;) | 11:23 |
raphink | ic | 11:23 |
raphink | I let ssh in on my firewall | 11:23 |
raphink | otherwise I couldn't get access to my comp | 11:24 |
Kyral | well, now its configured to block SSH from anywhere except two computer labs | 11:24 |
raphink | and I need ssh | 11:24 |
asbin | I think there's a dependepency problem in dapper with libssl0.9.7 ... is someone know about this ? I've tried to create a pbuilder chroot for dapper ... it doesn't work | 11:24 |
raphink | asbin: you mean you can't create a builder for dapper taht's it? | 11:24 |
Kyral | You can't make a Dapper Pbuilder, you have to copy your Breezy one and upgrade that | 11:24 |
raphink | Kyral: there's a pbuilder bug that was pointed to be yesterday (if I remember well) | 11:25 |
asbin | raphink: yes, because libssl0.9.7 is not available anymore | 11:25 |
Kyral | about /etc/shadow? | 11:25 |
raphink | wher eit's explained what should be chaned in order to have pbuilder work | 11:25 |
raphink | with dapper | 11:25 |
raphink | I can tell you where it is | 11:25 |
asbin | it has been replaced by libssl0.9.8, but some packages still needs libsll0.9.7 | 11:25 |
Kyral | Welcome to life in a development version | 11:26 |
asbin | ok, is you had a link, it interests me ;) | 11:26 |
raphink | here : http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pbuilder-maint/2005-November/000269.html | 11:26 |
raphink | it tells how to fix this bug | 11:27 |
raphink | - if [ -n "$SUTOUSER" ] ; then | 11:27 |
raphink | + if [ ! "$SUTOUSER" = "su " ] ; then | 11:27 |
raphink | that works ;) | 11:27 |
Kyral | I think I'm gonna throw ArchLinux on my laptop | 11:27 |
raphink | :( | 11:28 |
Kyral | raphink, I'm still gonna run Ubuntu on my main(this) box | 11:28 |
raphink | good :) | 11:28 |
raphink | I haven't tried archlinux | 11:28 |
Kyral | just that my friends have been bugging me to try Arch and I have that PoS laying around | 11:28 |
raphink | i'm not really interested in geek distros | 11:28 |
Kyral | Dell Inspirion 1100 | 11:28 |
raphink | ok | 11:29 |
Kyral | Besides my system as it is now is too tweaked :D | 11:29 |
raphink | asbin: did you find where to fix the bug? | 11:29 |
raphink | haha | 11:29 |
raphink | tell me about a screwed up sys ! | 11:29 |
raphink | haha | 11:29 |
Kyral | That laptop is just gonna be used for taking notes in class and so I always have a Linux system to work on w/o relying on LiveCDs | 11:30 |
raphink | mhm | 11:31 |
Kyral | Gonna put Fluxbox on it | 11:31 |
asbin | I will try to create a breezy pbuilder chroot, and upgrade it to dapper, as Kyral said | 11:31 |
raphink | asbin: I tried that and it failed for me | 11:32 |
raphink | whereas the fixing the bug in the script worked | 11:32 |
raphink | it takes 10 seconds ;) | 11:32 |
raphink | but it's up to you | 11:32 |
Kyral | Man I forgot I was gonna nuke one of my HDs today | 11:33 |
LaserJock | So am I supposed to sign the key of the person who signed my key? | 11:33 |
Kyral | I need to completely erase the partition table | 11:33 |
raphink | LaserJock: during a keysigning party sure | 11:33 |
Kyral | so now FDisk hinks its FAT32, its really an ext3 | 11:33 |
Kyral | and somehow it still has its ReiserFS journal on it | 11:34 |
raphink | oh yeah tweaked indeed | 11:34 |
Kyral | And somehow it works just fine | 11:34 |
Kyral | but those journals are robbing me of like 5 GB | 11:35 |
\sh | moins | 11:35 |
Kyral | hey \sh | 11:35 |
crimsun | moin, \sh | 11:35 |
Kyral | so I have to zero out the drive | 11:35 |
foampeace | ok hi | 11:49 |
foampeace | i put /usr/bin/gpg into thunderbird | 11:49 |
foampeace | raphink: what happens next | 11:49 |
foampeace | how do i send a signed email to keyring@tiber.tauware.de with thunderbird | 11:52 |
foampeace | if it says message will be signed is that enough for uploading? | 11:57 |
crimsun | that's a signed e-mail, yes. | 11:58 |
\sh | brb | 11:59 |
raphink | foampeace: sign your email | 12:02 |
raphink | it will ask you for the passphrase when sending | 12:02 |
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