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mhzhi02:22
Burgundaviasalut mhz 02:24
Burgundaviamhz, I had something to say to you, but I forgot what it was02:24
mhzhi Burgundavia 02:24
mhzhehehehe02:24
mhzthat happens a lot to you?02:25
Burgundavianot usually02:25
mhzabout Wiki?02:25
mhzabout Moin stuff?02:26
Burgundavianope02:26
mhzabout educational content packaging for APT?02:26
Burgundavianope02:26
mhzabout how clever I am?02:26
mhz:D02:26
Burgundaviasorry, but nope02:27
mhzabout Edubuntu Chilean tour?02:27
mhzwas at leas something good?02:27
mhzabout Cd label and cs cover?02:27
mhzcd cover02:28
Burgundaviayes, that was it02:28
Burgundaviasome of the wording on it02:28
mhzcool02:28
mhzshoot02:28
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BurgundaviaBreezy doesn't have X86 version any more02:30
Burgundaviait has "for your x86 PC"02:30
Burgundaviafor your 64-bit pc02:30
Burgundaviaand for your Apple02:30
Burgundavianot sure about the last one02:30
mhzhmmm, i dont follow02:32
strusbergHi mhz02:32
Burgundaviathe label for the version02:32
Burgundaviaand the line on the back saying "This is a x86 version...."02:33
mhzstrusberg: oh, hi pal02:33
strusbergI have a lot of thing to talk with you02:34
strusbergbenining about edubuntu...02:34
mhzBurgundavia: so it should say..?02:34
Burgundavia"This version is for your PC"02:34
mhzstrusberg: you can't imagine how much i wanted to go there02:35
Burgundaviaand as above for amd64 and ppc02:35
mhzBurgundavia: ok, np. You wanna change it or me?02:35
strusbergwe will have more oportunities02:35
Burgundaviayou can do that02:35
BurgundaviaI am doing my own dvd covers02:36
mhzstrusberg: i hope so :)02:36
mhzBurgundavia: okidoki02:37
mhzstrusberg: if i dont get there, how would you like we discuss about interesting stuff?02:37
mhzstrusberg: IRC?02:37
strusbergmhz: We are looking to Videconference02:38
mhzvideoconf coul work02:38
mhzwhat's the good average speed for it?02:39
strusbergmhz: We have anothers events next year02:39
strusbergmhz: June and October02:39
mhzwell, that i may get02:40
strusbergmhz: However, we can work together from now.02:40
mhzstrusberg: sure, we need it. It is the moment for L.A.02:40
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mhzre03:54
mhzstrusberg_: sorry03:54
mhzarkan0x: hey03:54
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DaBasshello06:07
DaBassis there a way to netinstall edubuntu?06:08
DaBasshave laptop with no cdrom only pcmcia ethernet06:08
DaBassanyone alive?06:26
Burgundaviayes, I am alive06:41
Burgundavianetinstall might be possible06:41
DaBasshow?06:41
Burgundaviathere are docs on the wiki for doing a netinstall for ubuntu06:41
Burgundaviathey might be valid06:42
DaBassi have a small slak instalation on that notebook right now would it be posible to instal from it 06:43
DaBass?06:43
DaBassi am really a newbe (in insstallation specialy)06:44
Burgundaviano idea, sorry06:44
DaBassthanx for pointing me to wiki i found some useful documents 06:49
DaBassgood night06:49
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DaBassDarthTode r u still here?08:17
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UnIDatahi, i install edubunu but in the workstations the keyboard no function ok, the keys 2 and 4 are ok and the rest no, Why ?, thx in advanced02:28
aeon17xEr, can you rephrase that in clearer English?02:39
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UnIDatathe key 3 and 4 work fine02:46
UnIDataq,e,e,t,r, ,x,f,t,u,o , so dont wotk02:46
UnIDatadon't work02:46
UnIDataplease help !02:48
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UnIDatai install edubuntu 5.1002:49
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ograUnIData, what kind of keymap are you using ? 03:10
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YagisanG'day All03:25
juliuxhi Yagisan 03:26
Yagisanogra: My Wife sends her thanks for the topic message03:26
Yagisanhow are you juliux ?03:26
YagisanI'm exhausted, I've been playing "Mr Mum"03:28
juliuxYagisan, i am fine03:28
juliuxYagisan, and you?03:28
Yagisannot too bad, I'm hoping my wife will be discharged from hospital soon03:30
Yagisanhave I missed anything interesting ? I had a preoccupied weekend :-D03:31
juliuxogra, we will print a german flyer about ubuntu, can you write a very very little text about edubuntu? perhabs something special for german03:31
juliuxYagisan, i don't know because i was on the linuxwordlexpo in frankfurt/germany03:32
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mhzhi03:32
juliuxhi mhz 03:32
Yagisanmhz!03:32
mhzhi mon03:32
mhzhi mons03:32
juliuxmhz, i have make a cd cover in the right size03:32
mhzcool03:33
mhzcan we see it?03:33
Yagisanmhz: topic  :-D:-D03:33
mhz?03:33
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juliuxmhz, mom03:33
Yagisanmhz: | Yagisan has a boy !!03:34
juliuxmhz, http://www.juliux.de/linux/edubuntucover.svg 03:34
mhzYagisan: CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!03:34
juliuxmhz, i will make in the next days a s/w version03:34
mhzYagisan: "there's a new boy in town"03:34
Yagisanmhz: yep - he looks like his maternal grandfather03:35
mhzis that good?03:36
juliuxmhz, in a few years there is edubuntu tester03:36
mhzjuliux: what's that?03:36
juliuxmhz, what?03:36
mhzedubuntu tester?03:36
Yagisanmhz: well, maternal granddad is a lady killer, so that's a bug yes03:36
mhzhehehehe03:37
Yagisan*big03:37
juliuxmhz, oh sorry a german word 03:37
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mhzYagisan: as lons as he doesnt look as his dad03:37
mhzlong03:37
Yagisanjuliux, edubuntu may need some more multilingual childrens apps for my kids to test03:39
juliuxYagisan, ok03:39
Yagisanjuliux: as they need to be bi-lingual03:39
juliuxYagisan, hehe03:39
Yagisanwhen mum and dad are old and want to argue^Wtalk, the kids can translate :)03:40
mhzhehehe03:40
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mhzjuliux: it looks ok03:45
UnIDatakeymap = es03:45
mhzhowever, yesterday i was asked to change x86 for soemthing similar03:46
UnIDataogra, keymap= es03:46
mhzlet me get the log03:46
mhzUnIData: what's the problem03:46
mhzYagisan: still tired?03:46
ograUnIData, did you see the wiki about LTSPKeymap ?03:47
mhzYagisan: do you change diapers and prepare bottle?03:47
ograhi all03:47
ograjuliux, can you mail it to me ?03:47
mhzogra: hi Mr. Edubuntu03:47
juliuxogra, what should i email you?03:47
Yagisanmhz: yes. I'm very good at changing nappies, washing, drying, and feeding babies03:47
juliuxogra, at first moin03:47
UnIDatamhz, just in the keyboard function 3 and 4 keys03:47
ograin case someone is bored and wants to hack on something: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/LTSPManager/03:47
mhzjuliux: ogra shouldn't we wiki juliux cd cover?03:47
mhzogra: hrhrhrhr03:48
mhzhhehehe03:48
ograjuliux, the text you have already, so i have some context to write the edubuntu paragraph ...03:48
mhzYagisan: we are the new generation of men03:48
Yagisanogra: like your mockup03:48
Yagisanmhz: my wife calls me "Mr Mum"03:48
mhzhehehe03:49
ograi'm about to implement the dhcpd.conf handling :)03:49
juliuxogra, verein.ubuntu-de.org/material03:49
mhzogra: it looks pretty neat03:49
Yagisanmhz: Just to take Kate to see mum at the hospital, I get the nappy change kit, feeding baby kit, and spare clothes kits all done03:49
juliuxogra, it is a this moment only the translation of the english flyer03:50
mhzYagisan: I used to do the same. Incredibly, more women were attracted to me than when 03:50
mhzYagisan: I used to do the same. Incredibly, more women were attracted to me than when I was single ! :(03:50
ograjuliux, that svg is pretty broken.... with which app was it made ? 03:51
juliuxogra, inkscape03:51
ograhmm03:51
juliuxogra, and smurf isn't online today so we cann't get a new version03:51
Yagisanmhz: Oh yes! That's the beauty of it :) I love having the women interested in me03:51
Yagisanmhz: It makes my wife act like a rooster03:52
ograi only see randomly aligned black boxes on a red backgrpound... and occasionally a ubuntu logo in there03:52
juliuxogra, we will have tomorrow a meeting about the flyer because we have to print it this week so we get it in essen03:52
juliuxogra, i will upload a version i have on my laptop03:52
ograoki03:52
mhzYagisan: yup, Unless you wanna have problems with your wife... It is good. In my case, it is terrible because temptation may rise :)03:53
Yagisanmhz: It's like hearing the Japanese version of "Hey @!&$%!, get away from my husband"03:53
mhzLOL03:53
Yagisanmhz: I can easily control myself, I did pick my wife for a reason - but if she thinks I'm tempted I get more attention03:54
juliuxogra, www.juliux.de/linux/ubuntuflyer.svg and ubuntuflyer2.svg03:54
mhzLOL03:54
Yagisanmhz: so I'm not going to let her know any time soon03:54
mhzclever03:55
Yagisanogra: with opengl on X11 over ltsp, the opengl is rendered on the server (in software), and screen scrapes are sent to the clients right ?03:56
ograyep03:57
Yagisanogra: K, that explains why it was so unbearably slow03:58
Yagisanogra: can that be changed ?03:58
ogranot in this release03:58
Yagisanogra: I understand, but is it possible ?03:59
ograno idea, i think you'll need local apps for this to render on the client03:59
mhzYagisan: HOW WOULD YOU RENDER IT?03:59
mhzsorry caps03:59
mhzmany thin clients has no HD04:00
Yagisanmhz: each client is running an X display, I thought if the X commands are then to the client, it could render it04:00
juliuxogra, i think we will have a tft for your thinclient in essen04:00
Yagisanmhz: *then sent to04:00
ograjuliux, cool, thanks for organizing04:01
mhzYagisan: i can't picture it possible04:02
juliuxogra, np04:02
Yagisanogra: hmm, I thought we could get a complete separation of where the app runs and what displays the graphics04:02
juliuxogra, only a keyboard and mouse you have to bring withyou04:02
mhzYagisan: mybe if clients do have linux installed but run X via server04:02
ograjuliux, np04:02
Yagisanmhz: the clients boot up with a root on nfs, it runs X04:03
ograYagisan, i doubt that works ...04:03
Yagisanogra: :'( but I want my p2 to concentrate on drawing the pretty pictures, and monitoring the keyboard and mouse04:04
Yagisanogra: while my amd64 takes care of logic, ai, and everything else04:05
juliuxogra, and pls check in the next days www.linuxtag.org, it would be nice if you can send in a talk about edubuntu04:05
ograit could be achievable with standard X forwarding... but i doubt that works with ssh04:05
mhzogra: thx for explaining that in expert words :) (I did not find the way to do so)04:06
Yagisanogra: but don't you do X forwarding over ssh ?04:06
mhzyes but not standard04:07
mhzYagisan: this is Edubuntu way not LTSP standrd04:07
mhzafaik, LTSP standard does no use ssh04:07
ograYagisan, we do ... but i think thats only compressed image data04:09
Yagisanmhz: I know this is not vanilla LTSP, but I do have a legitimate use-case for wanting this04:09
mhzi imagine04:09
mhzi dont doubt04:09
mhzit is just that I dont think it is possible -not in the way we currently use it04:10
mhzand cant picture a valid way04:10
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mhzhehehehe04:11
mhzwell done!04:11
juliuxbtw i have arrange a little both for ubuntu/edubuntu on the cebit next year04:12
juliuxso it would be nice if we have there a little flyer about edubuntu04:13
juliuxhas any body a little flyer about edubuntu?04:14
mhzwe will04:14
mhzjuliux: have you contacted Marketing team?04:14
mhzjuliux: i am working on one04:14
mhzin spanish, thou04:14
juliuxmhz, great04:14
mhzbut i may translate it once is finished04:14
mhzand then wiki it, of course04:14
juliuxmhz, if there is a english that is ok04:15
mhzyup04:16
mhzand Yagisan may work on the Japaneese version04:17
juliuxmhz, do you have a link to the flyer?04:17
mhzand maybe you on a Plat version?04:17
mhznot yet04:17
mhzbut it will be ready on tuesday04:18
mhz(unless my wife lets me work on them today aftert lunch)04:18
juliuxmhz, ok04:18
Yagisanmhz: You would need to ask my wife for a  version. I'm still waiting for my website translations! (she doesn't have much free time)04:18
juliuxmhz, still we have enough time to work on it04:19
mhzyup04:19
mhzbut not me04:19
mhzI have a small stand at a Video seminar. I am helping www.cdsl.cl with spreading Freedom of access to IT04:20
mhzand next saturday, install fest04:20
Yagisanhmm, my googling indicates glx *should* do what I want04:20
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mhzcool!04:21
juliuxmhz, i got an email that my conference pack are send out04:21
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mhzplease do analize pros and cons and wiki it CCed04:21
mhz:)04:21
mhzjuliux: I have not received any mail for the last 3 days.04:22
mhzSo i have no expctations :(04:22
juliuxok04:22
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mhzactuall, juliux I have not received any mail saying they have received my requests04:22
juliuxmhz, do you have e-mailed jane slibs?04:23
mhzyup, twice04:26
mhzand someone else JaneW suggested04:26
juliuxok04:26
mhzwell, I gotta get back to doing the cleaning04:27
mhzBBL04:27
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mhz_cleaningjuliux: d'u have a wiki page of yourself?04:44
juliuxmhz_cleaning, hm not really04:44
juliuxmhz_cleaning, i have on wiki.ubuntu.com04:44
juliuxmhz_cleaning, i will work on my wiki site04:45
mhz_cleaninghehe. thx04:45
mhz_cleaningand people you evangelize will find usefull to read more about you04:46
juliuxmhz_cleaning, i work on it04:46
juliuxmhz_cleaning, check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JuliusBloch to see what i have done and will do04:56
YagisanI need to get some rest - night all04:58
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juliuxogra, i have a question about the schooltool, who can i access the tool?06:45
ograjuliux, http://ip-of-the-server:7080/ click login, username "manager", pass "schooltool"06:47
juliuxogra, thanks06:47
ograip-of-the-server can be localhost on ltsp servers06:48
juliuxogra, and i get from littlepaul a link to http://gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=101006:48
ogra*sigh* 06:48
ograi get it once a week...06:48
littlepauljuliux, ogra allready knows this link :) 06:49
ograwe cant support software written in gambas06:49
ogra:)06:49
juliuxogra, why?06:49
ograand it does work only with tcp based X connections06:49
juliuxogra, ist gambas not free06:49
ograjuliux, because i wont be the one to bring gambas to main 06:50
juliuxogra, ah ok06:50
ograand obody else will... 06:50
ogra*nobody06:50
ograif it would be written for ssh based X i probably would think about it ...06:50
ograbut for now i put my hopes in getting people to help with student-control-panel06:51
littlepaulogra, could we try this student-control-panel in essen?06:52
ograsurte06:52
juliuxogra, ok that i don't knwo06:52
ogra-t06:52
juliuxogra, in essen we will have a local mirror so we can install everything we want06:53
ogralittlepaul, there is also a bzr archive, in case you know someone who wants to contribute code http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/bzr-archive/student-control-panel-0.1/06:53
juliuxogra, you can ask some of the gnome people in germany06:53
ograjuliux, lets see how far i am with: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/LTSPManager/06:54
ograwe could probably demo it06:54
juliuxogra, ok06:54
juliuxogra, in essen we also have to talk about my development06:54
ograwhat do you want to develop ?06:55
ograevery line of code is appreciated :)06:55
juliuxogra, i don't know, you and \sh said that i should develop something06:55
littlepaulogra, juliux is right the gnome people could help06:55
ogralittlepaul, sure06:55
juliuxogra, they want to do more for education06:56
ograyay06:56
juliuxogra, for the start i want to do something little not do diffcult06:56
juliuxdifficult06:56
juliuxogra, what i want to do is to hack on the gdm or where ever so i can reset the home dir's06:57
ograyou mean ldm ?06:58
juliuxyes it if it ldm i will do it there06:58
juliuxogra, but i need to reset the home dirs06:58
ograldmsupports custom commands for login in dapper, just create a package with a script, that sets the custom command and installs it in the chroot ...06:59
ogramake this script reset the homedir ...06:59
littlepaulare there any specs for student-control-panel? I didn't found anything about this tool06:59
juliuxogra, i think that i must reset if you log out and not if you log in07:00
ogralittlepaul, working name is TeachersPet 07:00
ograjuliux, sure ... why should the position where you put the script in the wrapper be a problem ...07:00
juliuxogra, there is no problem07:01
ograin any case you need to wrap /etc/X11/XSession 07:01
ograyou can call your script before or after this in the wrapper07:01
juliuxogra, ok i will try to make it over chrismas07:01
\shah development of edubuntu :)07:47
juliux\sh, right07:50
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juliuxogra, do you have time to develop something else?08:21
arkan0xmhz_cleaning, 08:33
arkan0xmhz_cleaning, ! 08:33
arkan0xmhz_cleaning, ping 08:33
mhz_cleaningre08:51
juliuxhi mhz_cleaning 08:51
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mhzhehe08:51
mhzjuliux: is it me or you have not slept in a big while08:52
mhzogra: are you awake?08:52
juliuxmhz, what does you mean?08:53
juliuxmhz, here it is now 21:0008:53
mhzjuliux: oooh08:53
mhzI thought it was later08:53
juliuxmhz, no we have here utc +108:53
mhzogra: ping?08:56
arkan0xmhz, ping !08:57
mhzarkan0x: yohoo08:57
mhzjuliux: are un the process of becomming part of the community?09:05
mhzun = you in 09:05
juliuxmhz, yes i will try it on the next meeting09:06
mhzcool!09:06
juliuxmhz, i don't know if it is engough i have done 09:06
mhzit feels good to know well commited people09:06
mhzdid you edit your launchpad? GPG key and all?09:06
juliuxmhz, yes of course09:07
mhzok09:07
juliuxmhz, i have uploaded my gpg key, the signed coc09:07
mhzcool09:07
juliuxand i have updated my wiki site09:08
mhzi saw09:08
mhzindeed09:08
juliuxmhz, what i have also to do?09:08
mhzwait09:09
juliuxok09:09
mhz:D09:09
mhzi am also waiting09:09
mhztuesday, isnt' it?09:09
juliuxyes09:09
juliuxand i will be there09:09
mhzmee to09:10
mhzmee I still can't understand why I missed previous meeting09:10
juliuxi see09:10
mhzI had no idea there wwas a meeting then09:11
mhzhey... Oktoberfest!09:11
mhzisnt that tomorrow?09:11
juliuxno Tuesday09:11
juliux22.1109:12
juliuxtoday is 20.1109:12
mhzooh09:12
juliuxhere it is 20.1109:12
mhzhere is 20th too09:12
juliuxok09:12
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juliuxmhz, i hope i have made engough to become a member09:15
mhzi don't know the prisma they use to evaluate09:16
mhzI hope i am doing well so far, too09:16
juliuxhehe09:17
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ograjuliux, not really09:29
ogramhz, pong09:29
mhzogra: there is a www.ubuntu.cl here09:29
mhzbut09:29
mhzI have never head of them collaborating in # irc09:30
mhzmainly, they have a LUG09:30
juliuxogra, do you know somebody who can develop a image on a thinclient which auth with a smartcard and than opens a session from an server in the internet?09:30
mhzand once in a while, they do something09:30
mhzogra: however, it is just forum stuff09:30
mhzogra: will it be positive or negative for my Communtiy approval on ML and LoCo team? 09:32
ograjuliux, smartcard auth is on my list for dapper+1, thats very non-trivial, you want a good programmer for this who has execllent knowledge about ubuntu LTSP and smartcards09:32
juliuxogra, he will paid the development and he didn't will wait until dapper+109:32
juliuxogra, and he will not use ltsp09:32
mhzoh09:32
juliuxogra, the guy ist thomas uhl09:32
ograjuliux, how does he want to authentiacte a thin client without using a ltsp server ? 09:33
juliuxogra, no idea09:33
ograthin clients have no disks09:33
juliuxogra, he will make a flashimage on the thinclients09:33
ograthey need a server to boot and for the root filesys09:33
juliuxogra, yes and this server will be in the internet09:33
ograso he wants half thick clients ...09:33
juliuxyes09:34
juliuxhe will use this for schools09:34
ogranice ...09:34
ograbut sadly i'm swamped with work ... no chance 09:35
juliuxogra, ok09:35
ograeven it would be a very intresting project09:35
juliuxit was only an idea because i don't know someonelse09:35
juliuxogra, it will be opensource09:35
mhzjuliux or free as in freedom?09:41
mhz:)09:41
juliuxfree09:41
mhzcool09:41
mhzand betta09:41
juliuxhe develop every thing under the gpl09:41
mhzogra: so? will that be better or worse for my intentions?09:41
ogratry getting in contact with them...09:42
ograthe council will aks if you know each other09:42
juliuxogra, i hope that we get some thinclients form thomas uhl09:42
ogrado i need to know him ? since you mention his name this often ? 09:44
juliuxogra, he is a german mark09:44
ograhmm...09:45
juliuxogra, not so much money but engough money09:45
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juliuxogra, but the problem is that he said very much but if you want something from him you have to remember him very often to do it09:46
mhzjuliux: that happens every where09:49
juliuxmhz, i know09:50
mhzogra: I am trying to get one of their emails. they are located in a different region, thou09:51
mhzactually, they have not participated in the Install Fests here in Santiago (capital)09:52
mhzI guess they do well where they lie09:52
mhzlive09:52
mhzand of course the idea is to work all together09:53
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mhzre10:49
mhzI had a power failure10:50
mhzstrusberg: hey mon10:50
mhzboo10:50
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mhzstrusberg: hey mon10:50
strusbergHi10:51
mhzhow's it going10:51
mhzhow's it goingI have good news10:51
mhzI have good news10:51
strusbergmhz: About Edubuntu-Venezuela?10:51
mhzone of the TV channels have contacted me to show Ubuntu an Edubuntu on TV10:52
mhznope10:52
mhzActually, I am bit dissapointed with the person who is "helping" me10:52
strusbergmhz:Good news!!10:52
mhzShe got an email from me on Wednesday10:52
strusbergmhz: Umm? why?10:53
mhzOn thursday i called her and she told me that she had handed all to the embajador10:53
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mhzand on friday, I got email from her asking me to fax (my email) to the embaasador10:53
mhzI really can't understand these slow/non-clever procedure10:54
mhzwhy fax an email?10:54
mhzstrusberg_: it's like me asking you to fax me cuaima code10:55
mhz:D10:55
mhzanyways, I'll have to fax it first thing on monday10:55
mhzhowever, they do not have budget for that, AFAIK10:55
strusberg_mhz: Fax, About forum invitation?10:56
mhzfax the exact mail you got from me10:56
mhzthe one I explain why i need to get to venezuela10:56
strusberg_mhz: Sure give me your fax number and your credit card to fax you the code :-D10:56
mhzehhehehe10:57
mhzexactly10:57
mhzsimply nonsense10:57
mhzor ignorance about simple modern procedure10:57
mhzboo10:58
strusberg_mhz: Tell me about TV interview10:59
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mhzit is a tv show for teens10:59
mhzon the 3rd most popular channel10:59
mhzI have to prepare a demo for it, and we'll set a date11:00
mhzas I said in my email... IT IS THE TIME for Freedom!11:00
mhzthere's huge interests on both sides11:01
mhz(propietary and free tech.)11:01
mhzand there's more conciousness11:01
mhznot much11:01
mhzbut definately more than a year ago11:01
mhzso it is time to become a bit more agressive11:02
mhzon evagelisation11:02
strusberg_mhz: About Freedom, check this link http://www.bozzetto.com/freedom.htm11:02
mhzThere is much conciousness on the need to improve education11:02
mhzand there are more people accepting the fact that we gotta do someting11:03
mhzWOW!!!!!!!!11:04
mhzpretty cool!11:04
mhzunfortunately in Flash, IIRC11:04
mhzFlash is still not free11:04
strusberg_mhz: Yes. :-(11:04
mhzI am getting info to desing a plan to evangelise young school students to participate in Freedom11:05
mhz1st idea is to offer them prizes for contributions11:06
mhzon Graphic artwork11:06
mhzmade with free IT11:06
mhzof course11:06
mhzalso, offerthem semi scholarships for IT training11:06
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mhzand their artwork will be published in our CD labels11:07
mhzand cd covers11:07
mhzso this TV show may be the kick off11:08
strusberg_mhz:Do you have ready any course about graphics design using free tools (i.e. Gimp)?11:13
mhznope11:13
mhzbut i know there must be at leat one out there11:13
mhzleast11:13
strusberg_Now, I am working in one Python programming course for teens. I used GVR (Guido van Robot)11:17
strusberg_and some original material.11:18
strusberg_The goal was game programming.11:19
strusberg_using pygame.11:19
mhzstrusberg_: i insist.. we should work side by side every day :D11:23
mhzstrusberg_: you said you created an account on TC wiki?11:23
strusberg_mhz: Yes.11:24
mhzcan you login and see ItLaGroup?11:24
strusberg_mzh: Let me check...11:24
mhzI am working on ACL now11:26
strusberg_mhz: I have not perms to view that page11:26
mhzboo11:26
mhzcan you gimme your NameLastName11:26
strusberg_mhz: RicardoStrusberg11:27
mhzduh!11:27
mhzcan you view http://www.tecnocimiento.cl/ItLa/talk ?11:28
mhzonly Admin can see *Group pages :) , sorry11:29
strusberg_Nope :-(11:29
mhz???11:29
mhzhmmmm11:29
strusberg_mhz: Are you using ACLs in Moin?11:30
mhzyup11:30
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mhzspam was killing us11:31
mhzso we decided ACL11:31
mhzand Groups11:31
strusberg_It is ok. Now this is a common problem in wikis websites...11:31
mhzindeed11:32
mhzRicardoStrusberg is ok,right11:32
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strusberg_mhz: Are you give me view rights?11:34
mhz#acl ItLaGroup:read,write All:11:34
strusberg_mhz:because is not working yet.11:35
mhzand you are listed in ItLaGroup11:35
mhzhmm11:35
mhzmaybe cache?11:35
mhzlet me clean it11:35
mhzor can you provide me with a foolish password for your user so I can try11:36
mhzhmmmm11:37
mhzare you sure the user exist?11:37
strusberg_mhz: Ok.. now my very very secret password, only for your eyes ...: edubuntu :-)11:37
mhzhehehehehehehe11:37
mhzhmmm11:42
mhzTC guys can see it and only 2 are admins11:42
mhzinteresting11:42
mhzit was not a cahce problem either11:42
mhzcache11:42
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strusberg_Somebody working in the  Ubuntu Engineer Certification program?11:45
mhznot me yet11:47
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strusbergmhz:Sorry, I have some problems with my WiFi conection :-(11:50
mhznp11:51
mhzwhat are you trying to email me?11:51
mhzsend me?11:51
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