=== strusberg [n=strusber@201.248.64.62] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === strusberg_ [n=strusber@201.248.64.62] has joined #edubuntu === \sh_away is now known as \sh === strusberg_ [n=strusber@201.248.64.62] has left #edubuntu ["Abandonando"] === strusberg [n=strusber@201.248.64.62] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === jhondoe [i=irc@139.92.110.162] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:22] hi [02:24] salut mhz [02:24] mhz, I had something to say to you, but I forgot what it was [02:24] hi Burgundavia [02:24] hehehehe [02:25] that happens a lot to you? [02:25] not usually [02:25] about Wiki? [02:26] about Moin stuff? [02:26] nope [02:26] about educational content packaging for APT? [02:26] nope [02:26] about how clever I am? [02:26] :D [02:27] sorry, but nope [02:27] about Edubuntu Chilean tour? [02:27] was at leas something good? [02:27] about Cd label and cs cover? [02:28] cd cover [02:28] yes, that was it [02:28] some of the wording on it [02:28] cool [02:28] shoot === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:30] Breezy doesn't have X86 version any more [02:30] it has "for your x86 PC" [02:30] for your 64-bit pc [02:30] and for your Apple [02:30] not sure about the last one [02:32] hmmm, i dont follow [02:32] Hi mhz [02:32] the label for the version [02:33] and the line on the back saying "This is a x86 version...." [02:33] strusberg: oh, hi pal [02:34] I have a lot of thing to talk with you [02:34] benining about edubuntu... [02:34] Burgundavia: so it should say..? [02:34] "This version is for your PC" [02:35] strusberg: you can't imagine how much i wanted to go there [02:35] and as above for amd64 and ppc [02:35] Burgundavia: ok, np. You wanna change it or me? [02:35] we will have more oportunities [02:35] you can do that [02:36] I am doing my own dvd covers [02:36] strusberg: i hope so :) [02:37] Burgundavia: okidoki [02:37] strusberg: if i dont get there, how would you like we discuss about interesting stuff? [02:37] strusberg: IRC? [02:38] mhz: We are looking to Videconference [02:38] videoconf coul work [02:39] what's the good average speed for it? [02:39] mhz: We have anothers events next year [02:39] mhz: June and October [02:40] well, that i may get [02:40] mhz: However, we can work together from now. [02:40] strusberg: sure, we need it. It is the moment for L.A. === strusberg is now known as strusberg_ === \sh is now known as \sh_away === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:54] re [03:54] strusberg_: sorry [03:54] arkan0x: hey === strusberg_ [n=strusber@201.248.64.62] has left #edubuntu ["Abandonando"] === kjcole [n=kjcole@dsl092-145-217.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #edubuntu === mwest [n=mwest@tsl.uct.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === DaBass [n=DaBass@24-176-113-235.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu [06:07] hello [06:08] is there a way to netinstall edubuntu? [06:08] have laptop with no cdrom only pcmcia ethernet [06:26] anyone alive? [06:41] yes, I am alive [06:41] netinstall might be possible [06:41] how? [06:41] there are docs on the wiki for doing a netinstall for ubuntu [06:42] they might be valid [06:43] i have a small slak instalation on that notebook right now would it be posible to instal from it [06:43] ? [06:44] i am really a newbe (in insstallation specialy) [06:44] no idea, sorry [06:49] thanx for pointing me to wiki i found some useful documents [06:49] good night === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === DaBass [n=DaBass@24-176-113-235.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu [08:17] DarthTode r u still here? === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@141.30.211.85] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@wbs-146-182-174.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === rycks [n=rycks@natha25.net1.nerim.net] has joined #edubuntu === rycks [n=rycks@natha25.net1.nerim.net] has left #edubuntu ["Client] === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.106.95.151] has joined #edubuntu === littlepaul [n=littlepa@p5084F51B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@210.213.192.107] has joined #edubuntu === \sh_away is now known as \sh === b3ar1n0 [n=b3ar@151.56.71.161] has joined #edubuntu === UnIData [n=UnIData@200.93.133.140] has joined #edubuntu [02:28] hi, i install edubunu but in the workstations the keyboard no function ok, the keys 2 and 4 are ok and the rest no, Why ?, thx in advanced [02:39] Er, can you rephrase that in clearer English? === nikola [n=Miranda@cmung3763.cmu.carnet.hr] has joined #edubuntu [02:46] the key 3 and 4 work fine [02:46] q,e,e,t,r, ,x,f,t,u,o , so dont wotk [02:46] don't work [02:48] please help ! === sven-tek [n=sven-tek@p508E6CBF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:49] i install edubuntu 5.10 === nikola [n=Miranda@cmung3763.cmu.carnet.hr] has left #edubuntu [] [03:10] UnIData, what kind of keymap are you using ? === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-77-39-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [03:25] G'day All [03:26] hi Yagisan [03:26] ogra: My Wife sends her thanks for the topic message [03:26] how are you juliux ? [03:28] I'm exhausted, I've been playing "Mr Mum" [03:28] Yagisan, i am fine [03:28] Yagisan, and you? [03:30] not too bad, I'm hoping my wife will be discharged from hospital soon [03:31] have I missed anything interesting ? I had a preoccupied weekend :-D [03:31] ogra, we will print a german flyer about ubuntu, can you write a very very little text about edubuntu? perhabs something special for german [03:32] Yagisan, i don't know because i was on the linuxwordlexpo in frankfurt/germany === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:32] hi [03:32] hi mhz [03:32] mhz! [03:32] hi mon [03:32] hi mons [03:32] mhz, i have make a cd cover in the right size [03:33] cool [03:33] can we see it? [03:33] mhz: topic :-D:-D [03:33] ? === jane_ [n=JaneW@wbs-146-182-174.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [03:33] mhz, mom [03:34] mhz: | Yagisan has a boy !! [03:34] mhz, http://www.juliux.de/linux/edubuntucover.svg [03:34] Yagisan: CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!! [03:34] mhz, i will make in the next days a s/w version [03:34] Yagisan: "there's a new boy in town" [03:35] mhz: yep - he looks like his maternal grandfather [03:36] is that good? [03:36] mhz, in a few years there is edubuntu tester [03:36] juliux: what's that? [03:36] mhz, what? [03:36] edubuntu tester? [03:36] mhz: well, maternal granddad is a lady killer, so that's a bug yes [03:37] hehehehe [03:37] *big [03:37] mhz, oh sorry a german word === Yagisan is a little too happy [03:37] Yagisan: as lons as he doesnt look as his dad [03:37] long [03:39] juliux, edubuntu may need some more multilingual childrens apps for my kids to test [03:39] Yagisan, ok [03:39] juliux: as they need to be bi-lingual [03:39] Yagisan, hehe [03:40] when mum and dad are old and want to argue^Wtalk, the kids can translate :) [03:40] hehehe === \sh is now known as \sh_away [03:45] juliux: it looks ok [03:45] keymap = es [03:46] however, yesterday i was asked to change x86 for soemthing similar [03:46] ogra, keymap= es [03:46] let me get the log [03:46] UnIData: what's the problem [03:46] Yagisan: still tired? [03:47] UnIData, did you see the wiki about LTSPKeymap ? [03:47] Yagisan: do you change diapers and prepare bottle? [03:47] hi all [03:47] juliux, can you mail it to me ? [03:47] ogra: hi Mr. Edubuntu [03:47] ogra, what should i email you? [03:47] mhz: yes. I'm very good at changing nappies, washing, drying, and feeding babies [03:47] ogra, at first moin [03:47] mhz, just in the keyboard function 3 and 4 keys [03:47] in case someone is bored and wants to hack on something: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/LTSPManager/ [03:47] juliux: ogra shouldn't we wiki juliux cd cover? [03:48] ogra: hrhrhrhr [03:48] hhehehe [03:48] juliux, the text you have already, so i have some context to write the edubuntu paragraph ... [03:48] Yagisan: we are the new generation of men [03:48] ogra: like your mockup [03:48] mhz: my wife calls me "Mr Mum" [03:49] hehehe [03:49] i'm about to implement the dhcpd.conf handling :) [03:49] ogra, verein.ubuntu-de.org/material [03:49] ogra: it looks pretty neat [03:49] mhz: Just to take Kate to see mum at the hospital, I get the nappy change kit, feeding baby kit, and spare clothes kits all done [03:50] ogra, it is a this moment only the translation of the english flyer [03:50] Yagisan: I used to do the same. Incredibly, more women were attracted to me than when [03:50] Yagisan: I used to do the same. Incredibly, more women were attracted to me than when I was single ! :( [03:51] juliux, that svg is pretty broken.... with which app was it made ? [03:51] ogra, inkscape [03:51] hmm [03:51] ogra, and smurf isn't online today so we cann't get a new version [03:51] mhz: Oh yes! That's the beauty of it :) I love having the women interested in me [03:52] mhz: It makes my wife act like a rooster [03:52] i only see randomly aligned black boxes on a red backgrpound... and occasionally a ubuntu logo in there [03:52] ogra, we will have tomorrow a meeting about the flyer because we have to print it this week so we get it in essen [03:52] ogra, i will upload a version i have on my laptop [03:52] oki [03:53] Yagisan: yup, Unless you wanna have problems with your wife... It is good. In my case, it is terrible because temptation may rise :) [03:53] mhz: It's like hearing the Japanese version of "Hey @!&$%!, get away from my husband" [03:53] LOL [03:54] mhz: I can easily control myself, I did pick my wife for a reason - but if she thinks I'm tempted I get more attention [03:54] ogra, www.juliux.de/linux/ubuntuflyer.svg and ubuntuflyer2.svg [03:54] LOL [03:54] mhz: so I'm not going to let her know any time soon [03:55] clever [03:56] ogra: with opengl on X11 over ltsp, the opengl is rendered on the server (in software), and screen scrapes are sent to the clients right ? [03:57] yep [03:58] ogra: K, that explains why it was so unbearably slow [03:58] ogra: can that be changed ? [03:58] not in this release [03:59] ogra: I understand, but is it possible ? [03:59] no idea, i think you'll need local apps for this to render on the client [03:59] Yagisan: HOW WOULD YOU RENDER IT? [03:59] sorry caps [04:00] many thin clients has no HD [04:00] mhz: each client is running an X display, I thought if the X commands are then to the client, it could render it [04:00] ogra, i think we will have a tft for your thinclient in essen [04:00] mhz: *then sent to [04:01] juliux, cool, thanks for organizing [04:02] Yagisan: i can't picture it possible [04:02] ogra, np [04:02] ogra: hmm, I thought we could get a complete separation of where the app runs and what displays the graphics [04:02] ogra, only a keyboard and mouse you have to bring withyou [04:02] Yagisan: mybe if clients do have linux installed but run X via server [04:02] juliux, np [04:03] mhz: the clients boot up with a root on nfs, it runs X [04:03] Yagisan, i doubt that works ... [04:04] ogra: :'( but I want my p2 to concentrate on drawing the pretty pictures, and monitoring the keyboard and mouse [04:05] ogra: while my amd64 takes care of logic, ai, and everything else [04:05] ogra, and pls check in the next days www.linuxtag.org, it would be nice if you can send in a talk about edubuntu [04:05] it could be achievable with standard X forwarding... but i doubt that works with ssh [04:06] ogra: thx for explaining that in expert words :) (I did not find the way to do so) [04:06] ogra: but don't you do X forwarding over ssh ? [04:07] yes but not standard [04:07] Yagisan: this is Edubuntu way not LTSP standrd [04:07] afaik, LTSP standard does no use ssh [04:09] Yagisan, we do ... but i think thats only compressed image data [04:09] mhz: I know this is not vanilla LTSP, but I do have a legitimate use-case for wanting this [04:09] i imagine [04:09] i dont doubt [04:10] it is just that I dont think it is possible -not in the way we currently use it [04:10] and cant picture a valid way === Yagisan is googleing OpenGL over X11 [04:11] hehehehe [04:11] well done! [04:12] btw i have arrange a little both for ubuntu/edubuntu on the cebit next year [04:13] so it would be nice if we have there a little flyer about edubuntu [04:14] has any body a little flyer about edubuntu? [04:14] we will [04:14] juliux: have you contacted Marketing team? [04:14] juliux: i am working on one [04:14] in spanish, thou [04:14] mhz, great [04:14] but i may translate it once is finished [04:14] and then wiki it, of course [04:15] mhz, if there is a english that is ok [04:16] yup [04:17] and Yagisan may work on the Japaneese version [04:17] mhz, do you have a link to the flyer? [04:17] and maybe you on a Plat version? [04:17] not yet [04:18] but it will be ready on tuesday [04:18] (unless my wife lets me work on them today aftert lunch) [04:18] mhz, ok [04:18] mhz: You would need to ask my wife for a version. I'm still waiting for my website translations! (she doesn't have much free time) [04:19] mhz, still we have enough time to work on it [04:19] yup [04:19] but not me [04:20] I have a small stand at a Video seminar. I am helping www.cdsl.cl with spreading Freedom of access to IT [04:20] and next saturday, install fest [04:20] hmm, my googling indicates glx *should* do what I want === mhz whishes hwe could get Conference Pack real soon [04:21] cool! [04:21] mhz, i got an email that my conference pack are send out === Yagisan is off to fire up a terminal and see if glx is there [04:21] please do analize pros and cons and wiki it CCed [04:21] :) [04:22] juliux: I have not received any mail for the last 3 days. [04:22] So i have no expctations :( [04:22] ok === b3ar1n0 [n=b3ar@151.56.82.172] has joined #edubuntu [04:22] actuall, juliux I have not received any mail saying they have received my requests [04:23] mhz, do you have e-mailed jane slibs? [04:26] yup, twice [04:26] and someone else JaneW suggested [04:26] ok [04:27] well, I gotta get back to doing the cleaning [04:27] BBL === mhz is now known as mhz_cleaning [04:44] juliux: d'u have a wiki page of yourself? [04:44] mhz_cleaning, hm not really [04:44] mhz_cleaning, i have on wiki.ubuntu.com [04:45] mhz_cleaning, i will work on my wiki site [04:45] hehe. thx [04:46] and people you evangelize will find usefull to read more about you [04:46] mhz_cleaning, i work on it [04:56] mhz_cleaning, check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JuliusBloch to see what i have done and will do [04:58] I need to get some rest - night all === \sh_away is now known as \sh === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === littlepaul [n=littlepa@p5084D5F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:45] ogra, i have a question about the schooltool, who can i access the tool? [06:47] juliux, http://ip-of-the-server:7080/ click login, username "manager", pass "schooltool" [06:47] ogra, thanks [06:48] ip-of-the-server can be localhost on ltsp servers [06:48] ogra, and i get from littlepaul a link to http://gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1010 [06:48] *sigh* [06:48] i get it once a week... [06:49] juliux, ogra allready knows this link :) [06:49] we cant support software written in gambas [06:49] :) [06:49] ogra, why? [06:49] and it does work only with tcp based X connections [06:49] ogra, ist gambas not free [06:50] juliux, because i wont be the one to bring gambas to main [06:50] ogra, ah ok [06:50] and obody else will... [06:50] *nobody [06:50] if it would be written for ssh based X i probably would think about it ... [06:51] but for now i put my hopes in getting people to help with student-control-panel [06:52] ogra, could we try this student-control-panel in essen? [06:52] surte [06:52] ogra, ok that i don't knwo [06:52] -t [06:53] ogra, in essen we will have a local mirror so we can install everything we want [06:53] littlepaul, there is also a bzr archive, in case you know someone who wants to contribute code http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/bzr-archive/student-control-panel-0.1/ [06:53] ogra, you can ask some of the gnome people in germany [06:54] juliux, lets see how far i am with: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/LTSPManager/ [06:54] we could probably demo it [06:54] ogra, ok [06:54] ogra, in essen we also have to talk about my development [06:55] what do you want to develop ? [06:55] every line of code is appreciated :) [06:55] ogra, i don't know, you and \sh said that i should develop something [06:55] ogra, juliux is right the gnome people could help [06:55] littlepaul, sure [06:56] ogra, they want to do more for education [06:56] yay [06:56] ogra, for the start i want to do something little not do diffcult [06:56] difficult [06:57] ogra, what i want to do is to hack on the gdm or where ever so i can reset the home dir's [06:58] you mean ldm ? [06:58] yes it if it ldm i will do it there [06:58] ogra, but i need to reset the home dirs [06:59] ldmsupports custom commands for login in dapper, just create a package with a script, that sets the custom command and installs it in the chroot ... [06:59] make this script reset the homedir ... [06:59] are there any specs for student-control-panel? I didn't found anything about this tool [07:00] ogra, i think that i must reset if you log out and not if you log in [07:00] littlepaul, working name is TeachersPet [07:00] juliux, sure ... why should the position where you put the script in the wrapper be a problem ... [07:01] ogra, there is no problem [07:01] in any case you need to wrap /etc/X11/XSession [07:01] you can call your script before or after this in the wrapper [07:01] ogra, ok i will try to make it over chrismas [07:47] <\sh> ah development of edubuntu :) [07:50] \sh, right === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.251.151] has joined #edubuntu === tuhl [n=tuhl@p5498C646.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:21] ogra, do you have time to develop something else? [08:33] mhz_cleaning, [08:33] mhz_cleaning, ! [08:33] mhz_cleaning, ping [08:51] re [08:51] hi mhz_cleaning === mhz_cleaning is now known as mhz [08:51] hehe [08:52] juliux: is it me or you have not slept in a big while [08:52] ogra: are you awake? [08:53] mhz, what does you mean? [08:53] mhz, here it is now 21:00 [08:53] juliux: oooh [08:53] I thought it was later [08:53] mhz, no we have here utc +1 [08:56] ogra: ping? [08:57] mhz, ping ! [08:57] arkan0x: yohoo [09:05] juliux: are un the process of becomming part of the community? [09:05] un = you in [09:06] mhz, yes i will try it on the next meeting [09:06] cool! [09:06] mhz, i don't know if it is engough i have done [09:06] it feels good to know well commited people [09:06] did you edit your launchpad? GPG key and all? [09:07] mhz, yes of course [09:07] ok [09:07] mhz, i have uploaded my gpg key, the signed coc [09:07] cool [09:08] and i have updated my wiki site [09:08] i saw [09:08] indeed [09:08] mhz, what i have also to do? [09:09] wait [09:09] ok [09:09] :D [09:09] i am also waiting [09:09] tuesday, isnt' it? [09:09] yes [09:09] and i will be there [09:10] mee to [09:10] mee I still can't understand why I missed previous meeting [09:10] i see [09:11] I had no idea there wwas a meeting then [09:11] hey... Oktoberfest! [09:11] isnt that tomorrow? [09:11] no Tuesday [09:12] 22.11 [09:12] today is 20.11 [09:12] ooh [09:12] here it is 20.11 [09:12] here is 20th too [09:12] ok === mhz does not drink anyways :) [09:15] mhz, i hope i have made engough to become a member [09:16] i don't know the prisma they use to evaluate [09:16] I hope i am doing well so far, too [09:17] hehe === mhz is back to edubuntu work (1 talk 1 brouchere 1 translation of manifesto) [09:29] juliux, not really [09:29] mhz, pong [09:29] ogra: there is a www.ubuntu.cl here [09:29] but [09:30] I have never head of them collaborating in # irc [09:30] mainly, they have a LUG [09:30] ogra, do you know somebody who can develop a image on a thinclient which auth with a smartcard and than opens a session from an server in the internet? [09:30] and once in a while, they do something [09:30] ogra: however, it is just forum stuff [09:32] ogra: will it be positive or negative for my Communtiy approval on ML and LoCo team? [09:32] juliux, smartcard auth is on my list for dapper+1, thats very non-trivial, you want a good programmer for this who has execllent knowledge about ubuntu LTSP and smartcards [09:32] ogra, he will paid the development and he didn't will wait until dapper+1 [09:32] ogra, and he will not use ltsp [09:32] oh [09:32] ogra, the guy ist thomas uhl [09:33] juliux, how does he want to authentiacte a thin client without using a ltsp server ? [09:33] ogra, no idea [09:33] thin clients have no disks [09:33] ogra, he will make a flashimage on the thinclients [09:33] they need a server to boot and for the root filesys [09:33] ogra, yes and this server will be in the internet [09:33] so he wants half thick clients ... [09:34] yes [09:34] he will use this for schools [09:34] nice ... [09:35] but sadly i'm swamped with work ... no chance [09:35] ogra, ok [09:35] even it would be a very intresting project [09:35] it was only an idea because i don't know someonelse [09:35] ogra, it will be opensource [09:41] juliux or free as in freedom? [09:41] :) [09:41] free [09:41] cool [09:41] and betta [09:41] he develop every thing under the gpl [09:41] ogra: so? will that be better or worse for my intentions? [09:42] try getting in contact with them... [09:42] the council will aks if you know each other [09:42] ogra, i hope that we get some thinclients form thomas uhl [09:44] do i need to know him ? since you mention his name this often ? [09:44] ogra, he is a german mark [09:45] hmm... [09:45] ogra, not so much money but engough money === ogra is not really familiar with the german linux business scene [09:46] ogra, but the problem is that he said very much but if you want something from him you have to remember him very often to do it [09:49] juliux: that happens every where [09:50] mhz, i know [09:51] ogra: I am trying to get one of their emails. they are located in a different region, thou [09:52] actually, they have not participated in the Install Fests here in Santiago (capital) [09:52] I guess they do well where they lie [09:52] live [09:53] and of course the idea is to work all together === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089CCAB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu === strusberg [n=strusber@201.211.129.70] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:49] re [10:50] I had a power failure [10:50] strusberg: hey mon [10:50] boo === strusberg [n=strusber@201.211.129.70] has joined #edubuntu [10:50] strusberg: hey mon [10:51] Hi [10:51] how's it going [10:51] how's it goingI have good news [10:51] I have good news [10:51] mhz: About Edubuntu-Venezuela? [10:52] one of the TV channels have contacted me to show Ubuntu an Edubuntu on TV [10:52] nope [10:52] Actually, I am bit dissapointed with the person who is "helping" me [10:52] mhz:Good news!! [10:52] She got an email from me on Wednesday [10:53] mhz: Umm? why? [10:53] On thursday i called her and she told me that she had handed all to the embajador === strusberg is now known as strusberg_ [10:53] and on friday, I got email from her asking me to fax (my email) to the embaasador [10:54] I really can't understand these slow/non-clever procedure [10:54] why fax an email? [10:55] strusberg_: it's like me asking you to fax me cuaima code [10:55] :D [10:55] anyways, I'll have to fax it first thing on monday [10:55] however, they do not have budget for that, AFAIK [10:56] mhz: Fax, About forum invitation? [10:56] fax the exact mail you got from me [10:56] the one I explain why i need to get to venezuela [10:56] mhz: Sure give me your fax number and your credit card to fax you the code :-D [10:57] ehhehehe [10:57] exactly [10:57] simply nonsense [10:57] or ignorance about simple modern procedure [10:58] boo [10:59] mhz: Tell me about TV interview === mhz hopes you are not faxing me the code [10:59] it is a tv show for teens [10:59] on the 3rd most popular channel [11:00] I have to prepare a demo for it, and we'll set a date [11:00] as I said in my email... IT IS THE TIME for Freedom! [11:01] there's huge interests on both sides [11:01] (propietary and free tech.) [11:01] and there's more conciousness [11:01] not much [11:01] but definately more than a year ago [11:02] so it is time to become a bit more agressive [11:02] on evagelisation [11:02] mhz: About Freedom, check this link http://www.bozzetto.com/freedom.htm [11:02] There is much conciousness on the need to improve education [11:03] and there are more people accepting the fact that we gotta do someting [11:04] WOW!!!!!!!! [11:04] pretty cool! [11:04] unfortunately in Flash, IIRC [11:04] Flash is still not free [11:04] mhz: Yes. :-( [11:05] I am getting info to desing a plan to evangelise young school students to participate in Freedom [11:06] 1st idea is to offer them prizes for contributions [11:06] on Graphic artwork [11:06] made with free IT [11:06] of course [11:06] also, offerthem semi scholarships for IT training === linescanner [n=andy@62.121.26.69] has joined #edubuntu [11:07] and their artwork will be published in our CD labels [11:07] and cd covers [11:08] so this TV show may be the kick off [11:13] mhz:Do you have ready any course about graphics design using free tools (i.e. Gimp)? [11:13] nope [11:13] but i know there must be at leat one out there [11:13] least [11:17] Now, I am working in one Python programming course for teens. I used GVR (Guido van Robot) [11:18] and some original material. [11:19] The goal was game programming. [11:19] using pygame. [11:23] strusberg_: i insist.. we should work side by side every day :D [11:23] strusberg_: you said you created an account on TC wiki? [11:24] mhz: Yes. [11:24] can you login and see ItLaGroup? [11:24] mzh: Let me check... [11:26] I am working on ACL now [11:26] mhz: I have not perms to view that page [11:26] boo [11:26] can you gimme your NameLastName [11:27] mhz: RicardoStrusberg [11:27] duh! [11:28] can you view http://www.tecnocimiento.cl/ItLa/talk ? [11:29] only Admin can see *Group pages :) , sorry [11:29] Nope :-( [11:29] ??? [11:29] hmmmm [11:30] mhz: Are you using ACLs in Moin? [11:30] yup === mhz checking configs [11:31] spam was killing us [11:31] so we decided ACL [11:31] and Groups [11:31] It is ok. Now this is a common problem in wikis websites... [11:32] indeed [11:32] RicardoStrusberg is ok,right === Katsumoto [n=teraflop@bbned225-210-100.dsl.hccnet.nl] has joined #edubuntu [11:34] mhz: Are you give me view rights? [11:34] #acl ItLaGroup:read,write All: [11:35] mhz:because is not working yet. [11:35] and you are listed in ItLaGroup [11:35] hmm [11:35] maybe cache? [11:35] let me clean it [11:36] or can you provide me with a foolish password for your user so I can try [11:37] hmmmm [11:37] are you sure the user exist? [11:37] mhz: Ok.. now my very very secret password, only for your eyes ...: edubuntu :-) [11:37] hehehehehehehe [11:42] hmmm [11:42] TC guys can see it and only 2 are admins [11:42] interesting [11:42] it was not a cahce problem either [11:42] cache === mhz still seeing === Orandic [n=asd@stjhnf0122w-142162057238.nl.aliant.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:45] Somebody working in the Ubuntu Engineer Certification program? [11:47] not me yet === strusberg [n=strusber@201.211.129.70] has joined #edubuntu [11:50] mhz:Sorry, I have some problems with my WiFi conection :-( [11:51] np [11:51] what are you trying to email me? 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