[12:06] <_micah> and what exactly does that do?
[12:06] <ZipKDE> hussam: im just looking in synaptic.. it seems I have libglide2 & libglide3 installed.. it says libglide2 is for Voodoo2, libglide3 for voodoo3.. thing is, if I select libglide2 for removal, it says it wil remove x-windows-core, xserver-xorg, and xserver-xorg-glide... that doesnt sound good.. if I select libglide3 for removal, it does not list these packages too.. Im kinda wondering if the machine is using the libglide2 drivers instead of libglide3.. a
[12:06] <crimsun> _micah: tells you if the module is loaded
[12:07] <_micah> didnt tell me a damn thing!
[12:07] <hussam> ZipKDE: you can have both installed. just load the one you want in /etc/modules
[12:08] <ZipKDE> hussam: thanks... erm.. how do I do that? (:-
[12:08] <ZipKDE> hussam: thanks for your patience in this one lol - nowt worse than an AOLer asking for advice
[12:09] <_micah> the simple fact that you've risen above your aol nature is enough
[12:09] <crimsun> _micah: then it's little wonder it doesn't work, eh?
[12:09] <_micah> yup
[12:09] <ZipKDE> hussam: tis OK - I found it ;)
[12:10] <hussam> in /etc/X11/xorg , what driver does it say?
[12:10] <ZipKDE> hussam: neither are listed... the file contains lp, mousedev, and psmouse
[12:10] <ZipKDE> hussam: I'll check x11/xorg now
[12:11] <fatejudger> how do I set up the drivers for my laptop integrated video card?
[12:11] <crimsun> fatejudger: it doesn't already work?
[12:11] <fatejudger> crimsun: cedega says it doesn't
[12:12] <crimsun> fatejudger: what video chipset?
[12:12] <ZipKDE> hussam: should I be looking in the section "Device" in etc/x11/xorg? if so - neither is listed - it says its using "driver "tdfx"
[12:14] <fatejudger> crimsun: Intel Integrated Graphics
[12:14] <crimsun> fatejudger: I need more info.
[12:14] <fatejudger> crimsun: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 845G 20050225
[12:14] <hussam> ZipKDE: try sudo modprobe tdfx
[12:14] <ZipKDE> hussam: I think I've cracked it hussam - I seem to remember that in Hoary I had to delete the "1280x1024" part of subsection "display" depth 16 before ubuntu would switch resolutions
[12:14] <ZipKDE> hussam: k will try that too ;)
[12:15] <_micah> hey, whats a good nix bittorent app?
[12:15] <crimsun> fatejudger: no, I need the info that /var/log/Xorg.0.log has regarding only your video chipset. Don't flood the entire thing.
[12:15] <fatejudger> _micah: KTorrent
[12:15] <ZipKDE> hussam: should sudo modprobe tdfx - should that do anything? its done nothing here :(
[12:15] <_micah> THATS the one I was using
[12:16] <fatejudger> crimsun: ok, let me get it
[12:16] <_micah> couldlnt remember the name
[12:17] <hussam> ZipKDE: if it returns nothing, then it worked
[12:17] <rudih> i try remove kubuntu-desktop but i get message Not installed
[12:17] <hussam> ZipKDE: add tdfx to /etc/modules
[12:17] <rudih> how to remove it?
[12:18] <ZipKDE> hussam: thanks hussam :)
[12:19] <fatejudger> crimsun: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/JDz7lm58.html
[12:19] <fatejudger> crimsun: pastebin.com is down...
[12:20] <rudih> how to remove kubuntu-desktop?
[12:20] <_StarScream> rudih: apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop ?
[12:21] <paradroid> Does anyone have experience with knet?
[12:21] <rudih> get message not installed also in synaptic
[12:21] <fatejudger> rudih: then it isn't installed
[12:21] <fatejudger> rudih: what do you want?
[12:21] <rudih> but also it said kdebase not installed
[12:22] <rudih> but i am in kde now
[12:22] <crimsun> fatejudger: looks fine to me.
[12:22] <fatejudger> rudih: ok well, restart then
[12:22] <fatejudger> rudih: KDE isn't just going to *poof* disappear
[12:22] <crimsun> fatejudger: glxinfo |grep ^direct
[12:22] <fatejudger> rudih: it's still in memory
[12:22] <fatejudger> crimsun: direct rendering: Yes
[12:23] <rudih> do i have to reboot?
[12:23] <fatejudger> rudih: yes
[12:23] <rudih> ok
[12:23] <fatejudger> wow, some people can be extremely dense
[12:24] <crimsun> fatejudger: then that's the best you can have, since you don't have an ATI or an Nvidia chipste
[12:24] <crimsun> chipset^
[12:24] <fatejudger> crimsun: hmm, well I know that my integrated thing supports 3d rendering
[12:24] <fatejudger> crimsun: maybe cedega is just stupid and can't detect it?
[12:24] <crimsun> fatejudger: it does. It's enabled.
[12:24] <fatejudger> crimsun: I'll just ignore the warning then
[12:27] <paradroid> #room
[12:27] <paradroid> exit
[12:27] <paradroid> quit
[12:30] <v-dogg> first time ircing?-)
[12:30] <Hobbsee> clearly lol
[12:30] <ZipKDE> hussam: it didnt work :( still stuck in 640x480... Im going to have a quick google on this one, I do remember that I had this exact same problem with Ubuntu Hoary so hopefully I'll find the same page and it will jog my memory :) thanks for your help so far though - youve been very patient - and thanks for sorting the booting problems out - I kinda thought I'd lost the lot, your a life saver :)
[01:00] <bur[n] er> anyone know how to find hte dcop call to make kmixer's master volume go up?
[01:00] <raphink> bur[n] er: use kdcop
[01:01] <raphink> to browse the available functions for each app
[01:01] <bur[n] er> that's the app i was trying to find!!!  thanks raphink... been awhile since I used KDE very extensively
[01:01] <raphink> ;)
[01:07] <bur[n] er> anyone else having issues with the system settings & the khotkeys part (input actions) under the regional settings part
[01:08] <bur[n] er> resizing the new "system settings" window seems to also be an issue (though I'm not sure if I should report it to kubuntu or KDE or neither)
[01:12] <LeeJunFan> yay! thanks to crossover office I can run the 2 apps I need to and reclaim 6 gigs of HD space now that I'm vmware free.
[01:13] <chaoticgeek> cool
[01:13] <bur[n] er> :)
[01:13] <LeeJunFan> bur[n] er: I noticed that too when I tried to resize that.
[01:13] <bur[n] er> LeeJunFan: does your "khotkeys" app run at all?
[01:13] <LeeJunFan> bur[n] er: are you running kde 3.5rc1?
[01:14] <bur[n] er> i am
[01:14] <LeeJunFan> bur[n] er: I don't use it.
[01:14] <LeeJunFan> bur[n] er: just tried - nope.
[01:15] <LeeJunFan> probably should let Riddell know.
[01:15] <LeeJunFan> chances are he's just got notice we said his name and will see in a sec :)
[01:15] <fevoldj2> Hi
[01:15] <fevoldj2> Where do I get all the decoders i need for media files? i need decoders for wma, mp3, avi etc
[01:16] <LeeJunFan> !codecs
[01:16] <ubotu> from memory, codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil. You can get them by going to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, and looking for "The Codecs". Another possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[01:16] <LeeJunFan> fevoldj2: check out what ubotu just said.
[01:17] <fevoldj2> thanks, I'll check it out
[01:18] <kairu0> hey all
[01:19] <LeeJunFan> kairu0: hey
[01:19] <fevoldj2> woah I didn't know there could be a law like that oO
[01:19] <chaoticgeek> omg I hate the time applet on the tool bar. It never keeps itself set to the right time
[01:20] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: ? the kde clock?
[01:20] <chaoticgeek> yes
[01:20] <bur[n] er> LeeJunFan: thanks for the feedback about hotkeys
[01:20] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: mine works fine. perhaps you have something messed up and your machine is setting time to wrong timezone from net.
[01:20] <LeeJunFan> np
[01:21] <bur[n] er> LeeJunFan: one last thing with that system settings window... does the "show all" button work for you?
[01:21] <bur[n] er> LeeJunFan: might be one more thing for Riddell ;)
[01:21] <LeeJunFan> greyed out
[01:22] <LeeJunFan> bur[n] er: ah, I see what you mean - no it doesn't 
[01:22] <LeeJunFan> bur[n] er: hehe, I never use that thing, I use kcontrol all the time.
[01:23] <kairu0> kcontrol is better
[01:23] <bur[n] er> usually me too, but I'm into innovative mac-like changes for newbies :)
[01:23] <bur[n] er> hopefully the stuff for newbies works as expected too to drive more people to our beloved platform :)
[01:23] <LeeJunFan> bur[n] er: I should be , I notice that most of my helping people here begins with, "open a shell..." :D
[01:23] <fevoldj2> Hmm I installed the codecs, but it still says the decoders are missing.
[01:24] <bur[n] er> kcontrol is definately better... i can actually work my hotkeys with it ;)
[01:24] <fevoldj2> Also, is there an alsaconf type command? alsaconf doesn't work.
[01:24] <kairu0> anyone know why opera's menu doesnt integrate into the top-of-screen-mac-style-menu?
[01:24] <bur[n] er> fevoldj2: for kaffeine?
[01:24] <fevoldj2> yeah
[01:24] <bur[n] er> fevoldj2: u have kaffeine-xine ?
[01:25] <bur[n] er> or kaffeine-gstreamer?
[01:26] <fevoldj2> I have keffeine-gstreamer
[01:26] <kairu0> i have ass herpes
[01:26] <kairu0> j/k
[01:27] <bur[n] er> fevoldj2: try the xine :)
[01:27] <bur[n] er> xine generally works better for me
[01:27] <LeeJunFan> kairu0: that's almost as bad as gstreamer
[01:27] <bur[n] er> aww... gstreamer has promise!
[01:27] <kairu0> LeeJunFan, lol i fully agree
[01:28] <LeeJunFan> bur[n] er: xine rocks, just make sure to go into engine config in kaff and set xine to look in the right dir for codecs, by default it uses /usr/lib/win32
[01:29] <kairu0> i use mplayer and vlc for everything
[01:30] <bur[n] er> LeeJunFan: i didn't have to anything in the engine config?
[01:30] <bur[n] er> vlc would be so cool if it was gtk2
[01:30] <bur[n] er> just looks so heinous with gtk2
[01:31] <bur[n] er> gtk1 rather
[01:31] <LeeJunFan> bur[n] er: hrm, I had to go into engine config and click expert to change the location it looked for the windows dlls. Probably an old .[file]  I had hanging around then.
[01:31] <fevoldj2> Hmm I can't find xine in the repository
[01:32] <LeeJunFan> fevoldj2: libxine
[01:32] <LeeJunFan> libxine1c2
[01:33] <fevoldj2> Yeah I have those
[01:34] <chaoticgeek> wow, I can have a console in konversation
[01:35] <LeeJunFan> fevoldj2: if you open kaffeine and click the settings->player engine-> you can select the one that simply says kaffeine to use the xine engine.
[01:35] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: yeah, your shell popped up on my screen so I did rm -rf /
[01:35] <LeeJunFan> :)
[01:37] <chaoticgeek> lol sure
[01:38] <bur[n] er> LeeJunFan: sudo apt-get install kaffeine-xine
[01:38] <bur[n] er> chaoticgeek: nice, you can run irssi in konversation :)
[01:38] <LeeJunFan> bur[n] er: ah right, sorry fevoldj2 - do that first :)
[01:38] <bur[n] er> er... fevoldj2 sudo apt-get install kaffeine-xine
[01:40] <fevoldj2> ok
[01:41] <fevoldj2> package could not be found
[01:41] <raphink> fevoldj2: you here ?
[01:41] <fevoldj2> yeah
[01:42] <fevoldj2> rofl
[01:42] <raphink> I'm (happily) surprised :)
[01:42] <fevoldj2> lol
[01:42] <fevoldj2> Just installed kubuntu on both my laptop and desktop, but I can't get media stuff working
[01:42] <raphink> :(
[01:42] <raphink> how do you like it so far (apart from that)?
[01:43] <fevoldj2> It's great
[01:43] <raphink> hehe ;)
[01:43] <fevoldj2> I mean I liked Debian already anyway
[01:43] <raphink> isn't it ;)
[01:43] <raphink> yeah :)
[01:43] <bur[n] er> fevoldj2: u have universe repositories?
[01:43] <fevoldj2> Yes just enabled those
[01:44] <fevoldj2> oh nm
[01:44] <fevoldj2> I see now
[01:45] <fevoldj2> I'm installing now
[01:47] <kairu0> anyone else ever noticed that msot the apps they use are gtk?
[01:49] <raphink> no kairu0 
[01:49] <kairu0> hmm
[01:49] <raphink> I use no gtk app except gimp (THE gtk app)
[01:49] <raphink> so no 
[01:49] <kairu0> ok
[01:49] <kairu0> i use xchat, azureus gtk, synaptic, vlc..
[01:51] <raphink> kairu0: for the services you talk about, I use konversation, qtorrent, adept (or the console most of the time actually) and kaffeine
[01:51] <raphink> there are far enough qt programs to get rid of gtk
[01:51] <kairu0> i agree
[01:51] <kairu0> i just prefer lots of gtk apps
[01:52] <kairu0> but i like the kde environment
[01:52] <aseigo> kairu0: what do you use for email and web?
[01:52] <kairu0> firefox and firefox
[01:53] <aseigo> firefox for email? webmail then?
[01:53] <raphink> konqueror 
[01:53] <kairu0> yeah
[01:53] <raphink> kmail :)
[01:53] <raphink> kontact :)
[01:53] <raphink> :D
[01:53] <kairu0> on the other hand
[01:53] <bur[n] er> evolution ;)
[01:53] <kairu0> kmymoney kicks gnucashs ass
[01:53] <bur[n] er> kontact shows funny times for my exchange calendar
[01:55] <kairu0> i have a problem typing spanish accents so i cant use opera
[01:55] <kairu0> or i would
[01:56] <bur[n] er> raphink: i'm trying to adapt... it's been a day so far... kontact will get ironed out i'm sure
[01:56] <raphink> mhm
[01:58] <bur[n] er> is it possible to make konsole pick up url names to allow clicking?
[02:02] <nalioth> bur[n] er: use gnome-terminal
[02:10] <aseigo> gnome-terminal? ugh
[02:10] <aseigo> slow and not nearly as featureful.
[02:14] <Delvien> somehow i managed to execute ssh -X root@localhost without using a terminal ( made a hotbutton) and i am now running linux as root, anyone know how to go back to my regular user privlegas?
[02:14] <doodz> any help with LinuxLVM
[02:14] <doodz> theres no way to format in linux hey
[02:14] <doodz> like it dosn't exist eh
[02:15] <bur[n] er> nalioth: that's not fun ;)
[02:16] <doodz> i'm stuck at the stage where i dono what file system name to call my linuxlvm drive
[02:16] <nalioth> bur[n] er: but you can click it
[02:16] <doodz> my other drives are called ReiserFS for some reason, but how do you set that up
[02:16] <bur[n] er> one last question... would you guys recommend any other more traditional (commander-style) ftp client for KDE?  kbear good?
[02:16] <bur[n] er> nalioth: yeah, just curious if it was somewhere in konsole that I missed... oh well
[02:18] <gupta> Exactly what is the command for the 'run command'
[02:19] <gupta> I mean which file is called? Something like : "/usr/bin/somefile"
[02:20] <gupta> Basically i want to use a khotkey to open the "run command"
[02:21] <nalioth> gupta: alt-f2?
[02:21] <gupta> Yes that works. But not with a gesture(khotkey)
[02:21] <gupta> So i need to call the file directly 
[02:22] <nalioth> gupta: i'm not sure what program it is. open and run top while you hit alt-f2 and see what it is
[02:23] <gupta> k, thanks
[02:24] <Delvien> How do i get those drop down menus back ( the little black arrows on the bottom of kicker menus) back?
[02:27] <bur[n] er> bottom of kicker menus?
[02:30] <doodz> yeah no worries now, i needed to mkfs
[02:41] <fevoldj2> I installed flash player from macromedia.com ... flash videos don't play as they should.
[02:47] <bur[n] er> fevoldj2: get flashplayer-nonfree
[02:48] <bur[n] er> flashplugin-nonfree that is
[02:48] <fevoldj2> Hmm can't find that.
[02:49] <fevoldj2> Is it in one of the restricted universe repos?
[02:49] <fevoldj2> I enabled all of those
[02:52] <kairu0> can i make the konversation channel windows look like xchat? i mean with names, a bar, and the text
[02:56] <fevoldj2> bur[n] er, where can I find the flashplugin-nonfree package?
[02:56] <bur[n] er> uhh....  one sec
[02:56] <bur[n] er> fevoldj2: multiverse
[02:56] <fevoldj2> breezy0backports main restricted universe multiverse
[02:56] <fevoldj2> that one?
[02:56] <bur[n] er> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse 
[02:57] <bur[n] er> that one
[02:57] <Delvien> anyone know a way to revert an old setting on menu editor? i deleted crossover office area accidently then saved it stupid me
[02:57] <nalioth> fevoldj2: did you update your apt-get after you enabled them?
[02:58] <fevoldj2> Yes
[02:58] <fevoldj2> Oh that one
[02:58] <fevoldj2> I'll add that repo
[03:08] <dell500> how long do you think 39gb will take to transfer to an ipod?
[03:12] <kairu0> can i have drop shadows on all my windows in kde?
[03:16] <nalioth> dell500: >23 hours
[03:16] <bur[n] er> ouch... krfb is unusable... even at 8-bit :\
[03:18] <fevoldj2> not all of my devices show in media:/
[03:18] <fevoldj2> can they be shown?
[03:19] <bur[n] er> fevoldj2: not a single one of mine shows up there... mount your stuff in /media/ and I assume all will be well?
[03:20] <dell500> seriously?
[03:20] <fevoldj2> hmm
[03:20] <fevoldj2> All my stuff is mounted.
[03:20] <fevoldj2> This is just for convinience.
[03:21] <fevoldj2> Right now I just have the icons on my desktop
[03:21] <dell500> nalioth, seriously?
[03:22] <dell500> yamipod is using 1.0gb virtual memory right now, that's insane
[03:22] <nalioth> dell500: usb2.0 is kinda slow
[03:23] <dell500> well there's only about 34gb of accual music, the rest is either playlists, covers, or txt
[03:25] <dell500> nalioth, should I b worried about my cpu process being at 100 and my load being at 100?
[03:27] <nalioth> dell500: lots of overhead on that usb2.0 pipeline
[03:27] <dell500> ya, should i just do it in spurts?
[03:37] <dell500> yamipod is f'in great!
[03:40] <dell500> time for food though
[03:47] <Delvien> i just removed my DESKTOP , is there an undo button in terminal.. im about to go crazy. 
[04:05] <fevoldj2> Hi
[04:05] <fevoldj2> I'm in System Settings and I'm trying to setup directory sharing, but the samba menu won't strech out all the way...
[04:05] <fevoldj2> Is there another way I can get to it?
[04:07] <Sgep> Is it just me, or is there no package for xv?
[04:11] <ecobuntu> how do i mount my vfat partition?
[04:11] <ecobuntu> or where is it
[04:12] <jsubl2> under /media probably
[04:12] <ecobuntu> it's not though
[04:12] <ecobuntu> it's /dev/hdc1
[04:13] <ecobuntu> ok i figured it out
[04:14] <jsubl2> great :)
[04:14] <ecobuntu> it just didn't have a mount point
[04:14] <ecobuntu> so i gave it a mount point as /media/windows
[04:30] <ealm> does the new dapper support reiser4 as an install-option?
[04:31] <ealm> ...after running reiser4 in linspire I'm really sold on it!
[04:32] <jsubl2> ealm, i think ubuntuforums.net has a thread on that
[04:33] <ealm> jsubl2: that url doesn't work
[04:33] <jsubl2> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[04:37] <ealm> so kubuntu doesn't support the choice of reiser4 as a file system :( ...makes me consider staying in linspire
[04:38] <ealm> wow cant I even install with reiser3!?
[04:39] <ealm> or maybe I misinterpreted that... still I want nothing but reiser4 after having run it in linspire for some time.. it really kicks the others ass performance-wise and I'm gonna stay with a dist that supports it
[04:41] <jsubl2> ealm http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87932
[04:42] <ealm> jsubl2: yes saw that thread and it implies reiser4 isn't coming to (k)ubuntu anytime soon
[04:42] <ealm> ..which is a shame imo... I'll try kubuntu when it lets me choose the fs I prefer
[04:46] <jsubl2> ok
[04:51] <ealm> thanx for help though!
[04:52] <ealm> see you another time!, bye
[04:57] <PokerFacePenguin> PokerFacePenguin is on ice for a while
[05:13] <Stele> flarn
[05:16] <anavim> how do I change the widget theme of konsole when I'm running from gnome, without kde window manager installed?
[05:16] <anavim> can I apt-get install the kde theme manager as a separate app?
[05:29] <bur[n] er> anavim: kcontrol
[05:29] <anavim> bur[n] er, ok, thx :)
[05:29] <bur[n] er> sure
[05:30] <bur[n] er> http://burner.ath.cx/kubuntu.png <---my current kubuntu for everyone to lust after ;)
[05:42] <Stele> speaken ze engrish?
[05:44] <skypa> greetings, say.. if I install the kde 3.5 rc1 packages, will they be replaced automatically when the final packages are released? :)
[06:04] <PokerFacePenguin> Marked Away
[07:15] <h> how do I automount my cdrom in Ubuntu5.10?
[07:15] <insanekane> h: it happens automatically i believe
[07:16] <h> An error occurred while loading media:/hdc:
[07:16] <h> The file or folder media:/hdc does not exist.
[07:16] <h> insanekane: it does not happen on my laptop somehow. The konqueror window popped up saying the above
[07:17] <insanekane> hmm
[07:18] <h> insanekane: I inserted a VCD. Was that the reason?
[07:18] <insanekane> H, maybe
[07:18] <insanekane> H, try playing the VCD without mounting it
[07:18] <insanekane> i dont think you need to mount a vcd
[07:19] <h> insanekane: Let me try a regular CD
[07:20] <h> insanekane: It worked fairly well. I guess ubuntu5.10 does not mount or take VCDs
[07:20] <insanekane> H, you don't need to mount vcds
[07:20] <insanekane> h, why dont you insert the vcd, then head over to kaffeine and try to play it
[07:20] <h> insanekane: Ubuntu 5.10 is smart enough to distinguish VCD and data CDs but Konqueror is not
[07:22] <regeya> *what* is smart enough, h?
[07:22] <insanekane> h, did you try to play it in kaffeine ?
[07:22] <regeya> I wasn't aware that the entire distribution, excepting konqueror, was able to distinguish vcd and data cds!
[07:23] <insanekane> H, K->Settings->Storage Media ... configure it there
[07:23] <h> insanekane: Kafeine does not like my VCD
[07:23] <insanekane> h, what does it say ?
[07:24] <h> insanekane: element does not handle this type of stream. please report the bug from kafeine.
[07:24] <lysis> hi
[07:25] <insanekane> h, ok, maybe you don't have the requisite codecs
[07:26] <insanekane> tell h about codecs
[07:26] <insanekane> !tell h about codecs
[07:26] <h> insanekane: it was a bad VCD. I can play now but I see no movie. I only see it is playing
[07:26] <insanekane> h, ok ... get rid of gstreamer ... get kaffeine-xine package ... then in kaffeine settings menu, use the xine engine
[07:26] <h> insanekane: strange; I can hear the sound but no video
[07:27] <insanekane> h, yes probably lack of video codec
[07:27] <h> insanekane: I installed kaffeine-xine. I could play .wmv format but not the VCD?
[07:28] <kairu0> hey all
[07:29] <insanekane> H, it all seems like lack of codec
[07:30] <h> insanekane: I even can't play anything in xine-ui. 
[07:30] <insanekane> h, did you install win32codecs ?
[07:30] <insanekane> H, it all seems like lack of codec
[07:33] <h> insanekane: yes I did but the VCD should not depend on win32codec. This VCD is strange. I guess I need a new one for testing.
[07:33] <insanekane> h, as yes you are right
[07:34] <h> insanekane: Haha. that VCD failed in Fedora Core 4 as well. Strange. It is produced by Chinese and the content is Chinese also
[07:34] <insanekane> heh
[08:00] <kairu0> anyone up?
[08:11] <damnhil> how do I install kpgp?
[08:40] <Chani> um. I kinda screwed up my installation...
[08:40] <usercamp5> jakaarta
[08:40] <usercamp5> jakaarta
[08:40] <usercamp5> jakaarta
[08:40] <usercamp5> jakaarta
[08:40] <usercamp5> jakaarta
[08:40] <Chousuke> Chani: How bad? ;P
[08:40] <Chani> I told kubuntu not to install grub because I figured I could just edit the grub.conf in gentoo. but that didn't work
[08:41] <Chousuke> Well, obviously not
[08:41] <Chani> I have gentoo on hda5 and hda7, a non-working windows backup on hda8, and the new ubuntu on hda9.
[08:41] <Chousuke> they use different configs. I assume you didn't tell them otherwise
[08:42] <Chani> different configs?
[08:42] <Chani> this is what I added to grub.conf:
[08:42] <Chousuke> yeah, as in different files.
[08:42] <Chani> title KUbuntu
[08:42] <Chani> root (hd0,8)
[08:42] <Chani> kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda9
[08:42] <Chousuke> Which one, the one on your gentoo partition or the one on your kubunru partition?
[08:42] <Chani> and gentoo is: title Linux-2.6.9-1 novga
[08:42] <Chani> root (hd0,4)
[08:42] <Chani> kernel /kernel-2.6.9-1 root=/dev/hda7
[08:43] <Chani> gentoo partition,. haven't touched hte ubuintu partition
[08:43] <Chousuke> then I assume you just ran grub-install without any parameters on the kubuntu side
[08:43] <Chani> no. I did NOT allow kubuntu to touch grub
[08:44] <Chousuke> Ah, hmm
[08:44] <Chani> I told it to go ahead without grub, it mentioned the vmlinuz thing and rebooted. I thought I could just add an entry in gentoo's grub.conf
[08:44] <Chousuke> I misread :/
[08:44] <Chani> I'm in gentoo right now :)
[08:44] <Chousuke> You should be able to do that.
[08:45] <Chani> kernel panics are no fun
[08:45] <Chani> do you know much about how grub interpres this stuff?
[08:45] <Chousuke> How does it fail when you try to boot kubuntu?
[08:45] <Chani> kernel panic
[08:45] <Chousuke> what error?
[08:45] <Chani> I forget the exact words but it tells me to use a proper root= option
[08:45] <Chani> it doesn't like /dev/hda8
[08:46] <Chani> *9
[08:46] <Chousuke> ah
[08:46] <Chousuke> the problem seems to be your root(0,8)
[08:46] <Chousuke> it's off-by-one
[08:46] <Chousuke> afaik GRUB indexing starts from zerp
[08:46] <Chousuke> zero*
[08:46] <Chani> I already accounted for that; it's /dev/hda9
[08:48] <Chani> darnit. the ubuntu partition oesn't have a sample grub.conf
[08:48] <Chousuke> hm
[08:48] <Chani> I'm reading howtos now
[08:49] <Chousuke> I wonder wtf is wrong with me
[08:49] <Chani> hopefully I misinterpreted how grub works 
[08:49] <Chousuke> I thought you said hda8
[08:49] <Chousuke> but you didn'y
[08:49] <Chousuke> I need some coffee ;P
[08:49] <Chani> I did, then corrected myself :)
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[08:49] <Chousuke> Yeah
[08:49] <Chousuke> I didn't see that.
[08:50] <Chousuke> Hmm. Maybe you need to load initrd.
[08:51] <Chousuke> stock Ubuntu kernels use initrd
[08:51] <Chani> I was just thinking exactly that
[08:51] <Chani> found an example on a site that uses initrd
[08:52] <Chani> will try that and see if it helps :)
[09:04] <chani> yay!
[09:04] <chani> it worked :)
[09:05] <chani> now... must remember how to get mp3 support
[09:20] <chani> uh, one problem: I can't seem to add words to the spellcheck dictionary. it keeps insisting kubuntu is spelt rwong :)
[09:24] <flosoft> hey
[09:36] <Flosoft> hey
[09:38] <Flosoft> what do I have to write in xorg.conf if I want 3d support on a nVidia graphic card?
[09:43] <chani> aha!
[09:43] <chani> partially figured out my usb problem
[09:44] <chani> it's mounted properly at /media/sda1, but media:/sda1 does not work, and that's what konq is trying to use
[09:44] <chani> if I add a line to my fstab to make it show up in media: it does funny things. thinks it's an unmounted hard drive...
[09:45] <chani> it was stalling because of that.. I unmounted and now it's happy
[09:45] <chani> but it still thinks it's a normal hard drive not a usb drive
[09:46] <chani> whereas in gentoo it works fine
[09:47] <chani> ineedsleep
[09:48] <ghostpsalm> I am trying to install grub into the MBR from a chroot onto a SATA RAID, however I get this error message:  "/proc/devices: fopen failed: No such file or directory
[09:48] <ghostpsalm> . Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel?".  Can anyone help me?
[10:23] <ghostpsalm> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4777  -  ?
[10:34] <ghostpsalm> pkg mirror packag   ?
[10:34] <ghostpsalm> Opps.
[10:35] <Flosoft> hey ... i just installed amarok 1.35 and it can't open xine engine
[10:35] <Flosoft> and the gstreamer is not working properly
[10:35] <Flosoft> the sound is cut the whole time
[10:57] <enrique> buenos dias
[10:57] <raphink> hi enrique 
[10:57] <enrique> alguien puede ayudar a un novato?
[10:57] <raphink>  /join #kubuntu-es please
[10:57] <Flosoft> no se ... es posible
[10:57] <enrique> jejej
[10:58] <Flosoft> ah ok
[10:58] <enrique> nada, que llevo la eternidad luchando por hacer funcionar mi impresora
[10:58] <enrique> pero no hay manera
[10:58] <enrique> tengo una hp 930 y "creo" que todo bien
[10:58] <enrique> pero cada vez que quiero imprimir o configurar mi impresora
[10:58] <enrique> la aplicacion se cuelga
[10:59] <enrique> y la tengo que xmatar
[10:59] <enrique> os suena algo?
[10:59] <enrique> yo le achaco la culpa al cups
[10:59] <Flosoft> no se :S
[11:00] <enrique> ah... vale
[11:00] <raphink> como has instalado to impresora enrique ?
[11:01] <enrique> por defecto
[11:01] <enrique> ayer me hice tanto un lio que tuve que formatear
[11:01] <raphink> que has utilizado para instalarlo
[11:01] <enrique> pero lo raro es que el scaner me lo coge sin ningun problema
[11:01] <enrique> ahora intento bajarme los paquetes de la pagina de hp directamente
[11:02] <raphink> enrique: como lo has instalado tu impresora? utilizando q programa ?
[11:02] <enrique> bueno...
[11:02] <enrique> kprinter
[11:02] <raphink> kprinter ? q es eso?
[11:02] <enrique> perdon
[11:02] <enrique> me he equivocado
[11:03] <raphink> utiliza kcontrol o systemsettings para configurar impresoras enrique 
[11:03] <enrique> no te lo vas a crees
[11:03] <enrique> pero todo eso ya lo he intentado
[11:03] <enrique> y hoy............
[11:03] <enrique> funciona!!!!
[11:03] <raphink> ...
[11:03] <ismail> hi all
[11:03] <enrique> creo que ha sido cosa de actualizar el kde
[11:04] <enrique> al 3.5
[11:04] <raphink> hi ismail 
[11:04] <enrique> porque ni ha tiros
[11:04] <ismail> can i ask a little question
[11:04] <raphink> sure ismail go on
[11:04] <enrique> yes
[11:04] <ismail> i now i little about linux
[11:04] <ismail> but i only used gnome desktop
[11:04] <raphink> ok
[11:05] <ismail> newly i started to use kde
[11:05] <raphink> I know little about the gnome desktop (except i can't stand it )
[11:05] <ismail> but i dont know an aplication
[11:05] <raphink> Flosoft: :)
[11:05] <ismail> like gedit
[11:05] <ismail> :D
[11:05] <Flosoft> is it a text editor?
[11:05] <raphink> ismail: kwrite, kate, etc.
[11:06] <ismail> i tried to change my X11 file
[11:06] <ismail> with kate
[11:06] <raphink> Flosoft: I know gnome users who can't stand kde though... although I don't get how. But choice is one of the greatest things with GNU :)
[11:06] <ismail> but it didnt work
[11:06] <raphink> ismail: what do you call your X11 file ?
[11:06] <raphink> XF86Confg ?
[11:06] <Flosoft> normally it is xorg.conf
[11:06] <raphink> xorg.conf yeah 
[11:07] <ismail> yea i know
[11:07] <ismail> but its upper directory is X11
[11:07] <Flosoft> just use vi in the shell
[11:07] <raphink> yes
[11:07] <raphink> or use nano
[11:07] <Flosoft> sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:07] <ismail> :D
[11:07] <raphink> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:07] <raphink> choose
[11:07] <raphink> ;)
[11:08] <ismail> v and nano
[11:08] <ismail> vi
[11:08] <ismail> thanks
[11:08] <raphink> or vim
[11:08] <raphink> or emacs
[11:08] <ismail> :D
[11:08] <raphink> these are console editors
[11:08] <appleman> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4777  -  Is anyone able to help?
[11:08] <raphink> when you want to edit important files as root
[11:08] <raphink> choosing a console editor is safer
[11:08] <ismail> i dont know any of them
[11:09] <raphink> we just told you ismail : nano, vi, vim, emacs
[11:09] <raphink> ...
[11:09] <ismail> :D
[11:09] <ismail> ok
[11:09] <ismail> i didnt know weather they're console editor or not
[11:10] <raphink> they are
[11:11] <ismail> where are you from
[11:11] <ismail> ??
[11:11] <kinfo> i don't understand.
[11:11] <raphink> france ismail 
[11:11] <enrique> raphink muchas gracias
[11:11] <raphink> what's wrong kinfo ?
[11:11] <enrique> por lo de la impresora
[11:11] <raphink> de nada enrique 
[11:11] <ismail> good nice to meet you
[11:11] <ismail> i m from turkey
[11:11] <raphink> ok
[11:11] <enrique> hi everybody
[11:12] <ismail> hi enrique
[11:12] <enrique> I'm from catalonia(spain)
[11:12] <ismail> cool
[11:12] <jpatrick> enrique: I live there
[11:13] <enrique> from catalonia?
[11:13] <jpatrick> Yes, I live in Catalonia
[11:13] <enrique> and ... why are speaking english?
[11:13] <enrique> bon dia jpatrick
[11:14] <jpatrick> Because I am English
[11:14] <enrique> and... where do you live?
[11:14] <enrique> excuseme if a write bad
[11:14] <jpatrick> Girona
[11:14] <enrique> i try to be good in this
[11:14] <enrique> girona....
[11:14] <raphink> enrique: i'd say because this channel is an english one.... If you want to speak in spanish yuo can /join #kubuntu-es
[11:14] <enrique> city=
[11:15] <enrique> oh
[11:15] <enrique> thanks raphink
[11:15] <enrique> i?m wrong
[11:16] <enrique> I leave this channel
[11:16] <enrique> thanks to all
[11:18] <appleman> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=505772
[12:00] <pinucset> how can i do for disabling kopetes dictionary (it turns incorrect writed words in red and it's annoying...), please help! :D
[12:06] <_david> tha
[12:15] <beytu> join #ubuntu
[12:15] <beytu> oups... sorry ;)
[12:16] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:16] <beytu> yes i know..  i just go out of bed ;)
[12:17] <beytu> thans
[12:17] <beytu> thanks... pfiou i think i'll go back in my bed.. :p
[12:17] <che_benway> thoreauputic: my systems takes about 3 mins to startup. it freezez on "waiting for network interface to come up"
[12:18] <thoreauputic> che_benway: what kind of network? And have you configured it?
[12:19] <che_benway> thoreauputic: well, i have a single pc connected to the internet. have a cable broadband connection
[12:20] <che_benway> thoreauputic: using a D-Link 610+ router to share the connection with a second PC. But this (the one with Linux) is the main one.  
[12:21] <thoreauputic> che_benway: if you have a single network card, try  typing  sudo ifup eth0 in a terminal
[12:21] <thoreauputic> if you are using dhcp I'm not a good person to ask as I use static addressing
[12:22] <che_benway> thoreauputic: I think it will be eth2. This is a second one i installed since the first one is no good
[12:22] <thoreauputic> che_benway: ah - more likely eth1
[12:22] <thoreauputic> che_benway: linux starts counting at zero
[12:23] <thoreauputic> che_benway: are you sure the card is recognised and the modules loaded?
[12:24] <che_benway> thoreauputic: well, I am sure its eth2. I assume its loaded cause I am using the internet .
[12:25] <che_benway> thoreauputic: in my network settings I only have eth0 and eth2
[12:25] <thoreauputic> che_benway: I see - I thought you couldn't get a connection : in that case you are just wondering why it takes a long time?
[12:26] <thoreauputic> guessing: dhcp is taking a while to get a lease 
[12:26] <che_benway> thoreauputic: yes. I am using the PC to talk to you now. But when it starts up it takes ages and freezes on "waiting for network interface". 
[12:27] <thoreauputic> hmmm - can't help much, sorry - I'm on old fashioned dialup here
[12:27] <che_benway> ah. ok
[12:27] <thoreauputic> but I gather dhcp can be slow - and the file to check is /etc/network/interfaces
[12:27] <che_benway> thoreauputic: just wondering if I would need to re-install breezy
[12:27] <thoreauputic> it might be a configuration issue
[12:28] <thoreauputic> no, reistalling isn't needed in linux, generally
[12:28] <beytu> che_benway: ... your two cards are connected or just eth2 ?
[12:28] <che_benway> thoreauputic: just eth2
[12:28] <Tm_T> anyone already tried 2.6.15 kernel packages?
[12:29] <che_benway> thoreauputic: eth0 is built in on the motherboard so i can't remove it. But the cable is connected to eth2
[12:29] <beytu> so.. it's probably waiting an adress for th0 .. which he can't get since it's not connected... have you desactivated it ?
[12:29] <thoreauputic> you might try the mailing list, and send your /etc/network/interfaces file and a description of what happens.   dmesg might give clues too
[12:30] <che_benway> in my network settings, eth0 is not accessible. it is displayed but i can't select it
[12:32] <thoreauputic> che_benway: see if there's an entry for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces - there might be something there taht doesn't need to be there
[12:32] <che_benway> thoreauputic: just noticed that I can actually edit settings for eth0 
[12:33] <thoreauputic> che_benway: since eth0 isn't functional, it doesn't need / shouldn't need to be in the file I mentioned
[12:34] <thoreauputic> in other words you should have entries only for eth2
[12:34] <che_benway> thoreauputic: ok let's have a look
[12:35] <beytu> "iface eth0 inet dhcp" <= if you have something like that in your /etc/network/interface.. you should just put an '#' in front of this line 
[12:36] <che_benway> beytu: ok, seen that. so just comment out eth0? 
[12:36] <thoreauputic> che_benway: yes, comment it out
[12:36] <thoreauputic> you don't need it 
[12:37] <thoreauputic> assuming you are connecting withthe other nic only
[12:37] <beytu> lol
[12:37] <che_benway> ok. will try that and reboot. thanks a lot guys. will pop back on to let you know
[12:43] <beytu> so che_benway ... how was it ?
[12:43] <che_benway> EXCELLENT. Booted up in under 1 minute
[12:43] <che_benway> Thanks a million
[12:43] <beytu> ;) .. no need to reinstall
[12:44] <che_benway> Well, u can tell i'm coming from windows. thats what I would have done in windows
[12:44] <che_benway> thatnk you so much
[12:44] <beytu> lol ... welcom in the wonderful land of kubuntu/ubuntu then ;)
[01:01] <ismail> i wanna use my packet manager
[01:01] <ismail> but i dont have enough list in my manager
[01:01] <ismail> i mean
[01:02] <ismail> anyway
[01:02] <ismail> i m starting again
[01:02] <ismail> i wanna download some packets
[01:03] <ismail> but my source list is not good enough
[01:05] <ismail> how can i add or remove sources
[01:11] <osh_> ismail: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:16] <Zeep> Hi - Where do I find the KDM configuration file?
[01:16] <jpatrick> Zeep: /etc/kde3/kdm
[01:16] <Zeep> jpat|away: thx
[01:23] <kairu0> can i save the konqueror window size for each folder?
[01:23] <kairu0> every time i use konqueror its the same size
[01:27] <apokryphos> Riddell: is it wise for us to list flight 1 in topic? ;-)
[01:28] <apokryphos> though admittedly I haven't heard of any issues _in here_
[01:30] <osh_> What's flight 1?
[01:31] <apokryphos> osh_: a pre-alpha release of dapper
[01:32] <osh_> apokryphos: With some risk of sounding stupid, what's dapper?
[01:32] <apokryphos> !dapper
[01:32] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[01:32] <osh_> apokryphos: Next ubuntu release?
[01:32] <osh_> Ahh...
[01:50] <_osh> Ehm...
[01:52] <_osh> I think I've found some issues with (k)ubuntu. First of all my wireless nic stops working for some reason. I use the acx_pci driver. The only way I can reenable it is with a "rmmod; modprobe; iwconfig; dhclient" command string.
[01:53] <_osh> Then there's the fact that some admin-windows are larger than the screen that display them, although they don't need to be that big.
[01:54] <_osh> Is there a bugzilla somewhere where I can report these findings?
[01:57] <Japsu> hey, I need the codecs in the w32codecs package but the package is nowhere to be found... not in universe nor multiverse
[01:57] <Japsu> I'd very much like kaffeine to be able to play media files other than ogg theora, too :E
[01:57] <morrow> !w32codecs
[01:57] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was binary only codecs that some call evil. You can get them by going to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, and looking for "The Codecs". Another possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntu.nl/
[01:58] <Japsu> yeah, I know very well they're evil
[01:58] <Japsu> thanks
[01:59] <apokryphos> !no w32codecs are binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[01:59] <ubotu> apokryphos: okay
[02:01] <Japsu> hmm wait
[02:02] <Japsu> vlc is said to play most of those formats without evil codecs
[02:03] <apokryphos> evil as in they're windows binary codecs
[02:03] <apokryphos> not as in they do evil things to your computer
[02:03] <Japsu> yeah I know
[02:04] <Japsu> evil as in evil licenses and software patents, you don't need to tell me about them, I know
[02:04] <apokryphos> it would still need the codecs to play i.e. .wmv 9 etc
[02:04] <apokryphos> congratulations
[02:05] <ismail> do you know some source to find good packets for 64 bit kubutu
[02:06] <apokryphos> ismail: whatt?
[02:18] <[Surge] > OT: Has anybody got experience writing DVDs in K3b? K3b reports my 4.7GB disks as being 4.4GB
[02:24] <Freezing> it could be difference between G=2^30 and G=10^9 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix
[02:29] <[Surge] > Freezing: Yeah it could be that 
[02:29] <[Surge] > People should start using the Gi symbol then
[02:30] <[Surge] > Hard drive manufacturers in particular
[02:31] <Freezing> yeap ;) but don't think they will start until they'll be forced to do that by law
[02:40] <mintywalker> hiya
[02:41] <mintywalker> what do I need to do so that kompose starts up when kde boots?
[02:44] <jpatrick> mintywalker: add it to ~/.kde/Autostart
[02:47] <mintywalker> thanks jpatrick
[03:38] <LjL> wonderlnad
[04:06] <Viper550> I"m using Kubuntu, kinda
[04:07] <Viper550> Actually it's Ubuntu, but I installed KDE on it
[04:08] <bhna> Viper550: fine
[04:09] <nxv_> i want to run an ui program as root. i did xhost +localhost. what else do i have todo?
[04:10] <Viper550> It's 3.5 beta 2! I might go up to RC1 but unlike other reports, except for the ARTS problem it is working fine!
[04:12] <Viper550> I might also install Firefox 1.5 Rc3 as well
[04:13] <bhna> Viper550: are there any debs for firefox rc3?
[04:14] <Viper550> Ooops, I've got some packages held back!
[04:15] <[Surge] > nxv_: I remember doing this a while back under MDK - let me see if I can figure it out
[04:15] <[Surge] > There was another config file that needed to be modified
[04:15] <Viper550> woah?! 0 packages needing upgrades?
[04:16] <Viper550> hmmm...strange! (I accidently typed that into the terminal)
[04:17] <Viper550> I'm going to update KDE, bye for now!
[04:20] <Flosoft> Finally it has arrived! The new Flosoft.biz Site is online! http://www.flosoft.biz
[04:25] <Viper550> Updating to KDE 3.5 RC1 right now!
[04:27] <brodel> What's the difference?
[04:27] <Viper550> I had Beta 2
[04:28] <Viper550> Now I'm doing an apt-get install -f
[04:29] <Viper550> with eterm if you are wondering...:)
[04:33] <[Surge] > nxv_: The problem is when you need to run an X app as root but you're running as user you don't have the required magic cookie 
[04:33] <yover> hola amigos
[04:33] <yover> soy novato en linux
[04:33] <toko123> greetings
[04:33] <[Surge] > nxv_: To get around that you need to get it from the user already logged in
[04:33] <yover> si alguien me podria ayudar
[04:34] <[Surge] > nxv_: So go to console and from a normal user account do a :
[04:34] <[Surge] > su - -c "exec env DISPLAY='$DISPLAY' XAUTHORITY='${XAUTHORITY-$HOME/.Xauthority}' xterm"
[04:34] <toko123> what utility allows change of kmenu
[04:34] <yover> alguien que pueda entender mi idioma?
[04:34] <[Surge] > nxv_: Replace xterm with your app name
[04:34] <apokryphos> kmenuedit
[04:35] <nxv_> [Surge] : thx
[04:35] <toko123> apokryphos, thanks
[04:35] <[Surge] > You don't even need to use xhost at all
[04:35] <jpatrick> yover: #kubuntu-es
[04:36] <[Surge] > nxv_: Full story is here : http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Remote-X-Apps.html#ss7.2
[04:36] <slow-motion> hallo
[04:36] <Stevman> dmraid is not picking up sda, or sdb (which are raided).... help!?
[04:37] <toko123> nice
[04:37] <Stevman> ^_^' not really
[04:37] <Stevman> it means I cant install kubuntu on my raid till I figure out why!
[04:37] <Stevman> any ideas/.
[04:37] <Stevman> ?
[04:39] <_stephen> any error information?
[04:40] <Stevman> nope.
[04:40] <Stevman> no errors...
[04:40] <gigabytes> hi all
[04:41] <gigabytes> when will be released the next kubuntu?
[04:42] <apokryphos> gigabytes: April
[04:42] <_stephen> I would love to know it too...
[04:42] <gigabytes> good
[04:42] <gigabytes> thanks
[04:42] <gigabytes> but a question
[04:42] <gigabytes> can I upgrade the distro via apt, or have I to download cd images?
[04:43] <apokryphos> an easy apt
[04:44] <Stevman> alternatively can someone point me in the direction of a more specific dmraid irc chat/mailing list etc.
[04:49] <toko123> raid and scsi are best supported using fedora as a distro
[05:13] <optotron> I am running Kubuntu on my laptop, bt I don't know how to fix bluetooth, Is there anybody who might have a clue?
[05:14] <bhna> !bluetooth
[05:14] <ubotu> bhna: Do they come in packets of five?
[05:14] <[Surge] > !yellowtooth
[05:14] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, [Surge] 
[05:23] <damnhil> how do I configure wireless on my laptop? I have orinoco_pci
[05:26] <bhna> !wlan
[05:26] <ubotu> bhna: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[05:27] <jsubl2> damnhil, i know the wiki has some wireless tips.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[05:28] <jsubl2> damnhil, not sure if it will help.. but you might check it out.. I don't have wireless
[05:41] <raingrove> can anyone help me with setting up knotify to make sounds without Arts? (I am trying to get my kopete make notification sounds in Xfce4)
[05:42] <skudkiller> slt, kubuntu + sd card integr , une solution ?
[05:43] <jpatrick> skudkiller: #kubuntu-fr
[05:48] <eckhart> hi
[05:48] <eckhart> i have permanent problems with kubuntu kde 3.5 rc1 packages
[05:49] <eckhart> caused by system:/ ioslave crashes
[05:56] <asimon> raingrove: if you start KDE's System Settings, then Sound&Multimedia, then System Notifications, there is a small button on the lower right "Player Settings". There you can specify an external player (you have to find one which can play the used sound format).
[05:57] <raingrove> asimon/ thanks a lot
[06:01] <Marie_> hello, any francophones in the room?
[06:01] <jpatrick> Marie_: they're in #kubuntu-fr
[06:01] <Marie_> oh thanks!
[06:10] <_master> hi there... 
[06:11] <_master> uhm... this is the first time i use kubuntu... i just installed it and i was wondering what the default root password is
[06:14] <bhna> _master: there is no root. use your own password with sudo and kdesu
[06:14] <_master> ahh ok
[06:14] <bhna> !root
[06:14] <ubotu> it has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:15] <_master> thanks
[06:18] <zackg> anybody home???
[06:19] <zackg> anybody home that can help me with some kde errors on breezy?
[06:19] <bhna> zackg: wich errors?
[06:20] <zackg> when I log out--restart-end session- I get kicker crash errors and cannot communicate with klauncher
[06:22] <bhna> zackg: have no idea :-(
[06:22] <zackg> seemed to have started when i updated libgtk and i have been fighting with samba
[06:23] <zackg> thanks for the help anyway--I have no idea how to go back to old libgtk
[06:23] <zackg> to see if that is it
[06:24] <bhna> zackg: dpkg -i old.deb
[06:24] <zackg> exactly like that??
[06:25] <zackg> or substitute old with the pkg i updated
[06:25] <bhna> zackg: sudo dpkg -i old.deb
[06:26] <zackg> ok---thanks--will give it a try -- have to go help wife feed outside critters :)
[06:29] <Samudio> hi guys i just installed kubuntu and didnt ask me for root password
[06:29] <Samudio> why is that
[06:29] <bhna> !root
[06:29] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:29] <Samudio> well
[06:30] <Samudio> it doesnt let me  do some stuff coz im not root
[06:30] <bhna> Samudio: have you read http://lodge.glasgownet.com/~bagpuss/Ubuntu/
[06:30] <Samudio> no im going to read
[06:30] <Samudio> wait
[06:31] <bhna> Samudio: i mean https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:31] <Samudio> yes i im there
[06:31] <Samudio> but thats sux every time i have to use Sudo?
[06:31] <bhna> Samudio: use sudo or kdesu
[06:32] <Samudio> bhna i see, but why is that do u know?
[06:32] <bhna> Samudio: why? i you use another distribution you have to login as root all the time. i hope you dont work as root.
[06:33] <Samudio> i guess 
[06:36] <pupil> I can't seem to get limewire to run,. can anyone help?
[06:37] <bhna> pupil: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39803&page=2
[06:39] <Samudio> bhna is the same sudo in ubuntui?
[06:39] <bhna> Samudio: yes!
[06:40] <Samudio> um
[06:41] <Samudio> bhna Thanks
[06:45] <pupil> bhna has nothing worthy of using
[06:46] <local> :~$ sudo adept
[06:46] <local> sudo: unable to lookup  via gethostbyname()
[06:46] <local> After enthusiastically installing packages via Adept, I can no longer run it to install other packages. It had crashed after I tried to add some US internet banking interface package via Adept. The error is: .
[06:46] <local> :~$ sudo adept
[06:46] <local> sudo: unable to lookup  via gethostbyname()
[06:46] <local> Can anyone help me to get it working again?
[06:51] <pupil> how do you find sun's java environment on linux?
[06:53] <pupil> I mean,. has anyone used Sun's Java Desktop?
[06:53] <pupil> on linux
[06:53] <Samudio> no
[06:54] <TurkeR> hi all 
[06:55] <TurkeR> i'm a new user for kubuntu. And i wanna ask what's the difference between kubundu cd and dvd ? Which packages are added on the dvd ?
[06:55] <chaoticgeek> I've used sun's java desktop on a sun machine
[06:55] <chaoticgeek> the dvd has the livecd and the install cd as one package
[06:56] <chaoticgeek> where as the cds are sperate, one for live cd and one for the install cd
[06:56] <chaoticgeek> no extra packages that I know of
[06:57] <chaoticgeek> TurkeR: do you understand that?
[06:58] <TurkeR> yeah chaoticgeek
[06:58] <TurkeR> thanks...
[06:58] <chaoticgeek> ok
[06:58] <chaoticgeek> thought I got disconnected for a second there
[06:59] <TurkeR> so if i want to install kubuntu i must only download the i386 install cd not live cd 
[06:59] <TurkeR> is it ok ?
[06:59] <pupil> when You install java runtime environment, what java file do I point too? 
[07:00] <pupil> when running limewire?
[07:01] <chaoticgeek> I dont know I've never used limewire
[07:01] <pupil> chaoticgeek, ok,. if your using j2re what jar file do you point too?
[07:01] <LeeJunFan> TurkeR: right, you don't need the live cd.
[07:02] <chaoticgeek> TurkeR: yes get the i386 install cd unless you have a amd64 bit machine or a power pc machine (mac)
[07:02] <TurkeR> roger sir thanks again... :)
[07:02] <chaoticgeek> LeeJunFan: maybe you could help pupil 
[07:02] <pupil> LeeJunFan, are you avaialble?
[07:03] <LeeJunFan> chaoticgeek: I don't have java or limewire on my machine.
[07:03] <chaoticgeek> oh
[07:03] <chaoticgeek> never mind
[07:05] <chaoticgeek> hey pupil try pointing it to /etc/alternatives/jar
[07:06] <chaoticgeek> wait worng one 
[07:06] <pupil> chaoticgeek, ok,.. one sec
[07:06] <chaoticgeek> one second
[07:07] <chaoticgeek> ok the directory is /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.0-1.4.2.0/jre       but I dont know exactly what file yet
[07:08] <chaoticgeek> pupil: I think it is /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.0-1.4.2.0/jre/bin/java            but not completly sure
[07:10] <libben> how can i check what speed i currently have on my smb sharing?
[07:10] <libben> i copying like 20 gb over smb right now. and i wanna see the mbit/sec
[07:12] <pupil> chaoticgeek, yeah, thats where it is,. 
[07:14] <Stele> DHCP/DNS question - is it possible to get my machines to add their entries to my DNS server so i can access them by name on my network?
[07:16] <raphink> Stele: you could modify your /etc/hosts on each machine
[07:16] <fyrmedic> Is the Hoary distro or the Breezy distro better?
[07:16] <raphink> fyrmedic: Breezy is newer
[07:17] <fyrmedic> raphink: newer doesn't always equate better though.
[07:17] <raphink> sure
[07:17] <raphink> you can get Debian potato too
[07:17] <raphink> it works...
[07:17] <raphink> ;)
[07:17] <fyrmedic> well?
[07:18] <raphink> recent stable distros often have better support 
[07:18] <raphink> breezy is pretty good
[07:18] <Stele> raphink - but i'd be putting the DYNAMIC ip in the hosts file
[07:19] <Stele> which could change since it's using DHCP
[07:19] <raphink> hmmm
[07:19] <Stele> there has to be an automatic way to make all this work right
[07:19] <raphink> not easy then
[07:19] <fyrmedic> I am just curious. I have been using breezy and having a lot of issues. I am looking for a good distro that is pretty stable and fairly straightforward
[07:19] <raphink> Stele: then yes you should have your DHCP and DNS work together if possible
[07:19] <Stele> fyrmedic - i just installed it for the first time and it seems pretty nice
[07:19] <Stele> raphink - so, how?
[07:19] <Stele> :)
[07:19] <Stele> I assume it is possible
[07:19] <raphink> no idea Stele, did you google for it?
[07:20] <Stele> nah that takes too much effort :-)
[07:20] <Stele> i will
[07:20] <raphink> Stele: can you use the mac adresses for DNS ?
[07:20] <Stele> no clue
[07:20] <raphink> that would identify the machines uniquely
[07:20] <Stele> i would think there would be a way for the DHCP server to install the name of the machine into the DNS tables somehow
[07:20] <Stele> yeah
[07:20] <Stele> i'll google
[07:20] <fyrmedic> I love google
[07:21] <raphink> Stele: http://www.dhcp-handbook.com/dhcp_faq.html#cadco
[07:21] <Stele> sweet thanks
[07:22] <Stele> heh - all it says is that it might be possible :)
[07:22] <Stele> i'll check the DHCP man pages
[07:22] <raphink> k
[07:23] <asger> Hey all! I have a question. Wich apt source should i download from? SID or Sarge?
[07:24] <raphink> none of these asger 
[07:24] <raphink> download from ubuntu sources
[07:24] <asger> Yeah, but if i get sources from apt-get.org
[07:26] <asger> if i want from ex. ftp.nerim.net, that has mplayer and things like that..
[07:29] <_ismael> eo
[07:30] <_ismael> hayy  alguien?
[07:44] <Delvien> Anyone have a link to a HOWTO for Samba sharing between kubuntu and a winxp Pro machine?
[07:48] <stdoubt> yoohoo -could someone who knows about DVD playback help me out?
[07:48] <stdoubt> check my post? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=507037#post507037
[07:54] <joaquin> hola
[07:55] <joaquin> algn espaol?
[07:55] <joaquin> nadie?
[07:55] <LeeJunFan>  #kubunt-es
[07:56] <joaquin> sorry 
[07:57] <joaquin> bye
[08:11] <beef_sprocket> "Can't locate Date/Parse.pm" howto download the date module for perl?
[08:12] <sambagirl> is there a music channel for kubuntu?
[08:21] <Sonny_Wertzik> anybody here use kaffeine?
[08:24] <chaoticgeek> kinda
[08:24] <chaoticgeek> whats worng?
[08:24] <_thumper_> I'd like to, but keeps crashing
[08:24] <chaoticgeek> sudo apt-get install kaffeine-xine
[08:24] <chaoticgeek> did you do that?
[08:24] <Sonny_Wertzik> heh...i got it to work...but everytime i close it i get signall 11
[08:25] <Sonny_Wertzik> do you know of a patch or script to fix it?
[08:25] <chaoticgeek> nope, I've never had an error like that
[08:26] <Sonny_Wertzik> ok thx anyway...its a know error...maybe it will be fixed soon
[08:27] <Sonny_Wertzik> funny...at first kaffeine didnt work at all...then i fixed it..now it crashes on exit...wierd!
[08:28] <Sonny_Wertzik> you just cant win hehehe
[08:39] <_thumper_> Kaffeine seems to hang when trying to play .wav file.  Then crashes on exit as it becomes non responsive.  Have played same wav file with mplayer and windows machine, so I know that the file is not the problem
[08:39] <_thumper_> Using KDE 3.5 RC1
[08:40] <Tm_T> diu
[08:41] <kkathman> _thumper_: sudo apt-get install kaffeine-xine, then choose it as your engine
[08:41] <_thumper_> kkathman, kaffeine-xine is installed, but still defaults to gstreamer
[08:41] <_thumper_> however kids call, and must go and bath them :)
[08:41] <kkathman> _thumper_: set xine as the engine then
[08:43] <_thumper_> kkathman, how?
[08:44] <_thumper_> kkathman, forget that, found it
[08:44] <kkathman> ok
[08:45] <kkathman> personally I dont use mustic and sound on this linux box, but I did configure it once and it worked relatively well under hoary
[08:45] <kkathman> music = mustic
[08:46] <Tm_T> hum
[08:46] <Tm_T> who uses kaffeine to play anything? I don't
[08:49] <_thumper_> kaffeine with xine seems to crash frequently when selecting open
[09:34] <vadcom> hello All
[09:47] <gupta> Hi! Is there a app to assign keyboard shortcuts. That are executed one after another
[09:48] <gupta> In other a autohotkey or powerpo(windows) like app for linux
[09:49] <gupta> Basicaaly i want to a call  scripts, and other commands with a keyboard shortcut
[09:55] <libben> ive copied my azureus foldet to /usr/local/bin/Azureus
[09:55] <libben> and when i type azureus in terminal it wont pop
[09:55] <libben> shouldent it pop?
[09:59] <libben> Riddell: u here?
[10:01] <Riddell> libben: hi
[10:07] <sambagirl> http://rafb.net/paste/results/X2pVwa51.html someone help me with this?
[10:08] <Riddell> sambagirl: US mirror is broken (run out of disk space or something), either ignore it and take the risk or change to another mirror
[10:09] <sambagirl> ahhh ok 
[10:09] <sambagirl> so i will wait for a few minutes for them to fix it?
[10:09] <Riddell> sambagirl: you can try that but I seem to mind other people have complained in the last couple of days
[10:10] <sambagirl> you guys are SMART
[10:10] <sambagirl> lol i would never have know that
[10:10] <knubbe> anyone who can tell my why my firefox always use utf-8?
[10:10] <sambagirl> i'll have to try another time cause i have no idea how to chage to another mirror
[10:10] <knubbe> even though i have iso 8859-1 as default in my settings
[10:14] <Riddell> sambagirl: edit /etc/apt/souces.list (or use adept) and change us. to ca.
[10:15] <libben> Riddell: i was wondering what im doing wrong, nalioth told i just needed to copy my Azureus folder (torrent client,with java) to /usr/local/bin to just get it pop globally when i type azur and hit tab. but it doesnt, do i need to create a symlink to the bin folder with azuerus executable?
[10:17] <Riddell> libben: what's the command you need to run it at the moment?
[10:17] <LjL> libben: *executables* must be in /usr/local/bin, not *directories* -- at least, you won't be able to directly start executables in sub-directories
[10:18] <pupil> I have a .rar file,. how do I extract it 
[10:19] <LjL> pupil: unrar-free or unrar-nonfree, depending on the rar
[10:20] <pupil> LjL, so I'll have to apt-get install rar ?
[10:20] <LjL> no, "sudo aptitude install unrar-nonfree" (or -free, as relevant)
[10:21] <pupil> LjL, is nonfree an option,. and what decides relevance?
[10:21] <LjL> pupil: by the way, did Wine+IE work out? i was trying to tell you, the other day, that I had installed Wine+Firefox and that it worked perfectly to open the BMW site... it was you wasn't it?
[10:21] <pupil> LjL, yes it was,. 
[10:21] <LjL> pupil: the -nonfree version can extract .rar archives made with RAR 3.0 and later versions, i think, while the -free version can't
[10:22] <pupil> I didnt get a chance to hack at it. i downloaded  the files nescessary for install,. but I had not installed them yet,. I think I will need assistance with  it. 
[10:22] <LjL> pupil: just install nonfree if you aren't worried with "freeness"
[10:22] <LjL> pupil: it was extremely easy here: "sudo aptitude install wine", followed by downloading the Firefox installer for Windows, followed by running it, followed by nothing else
[10:23] <pupil> LjL, your kidding me
[10:23] <pupil> why use aptitude verses apt-get?
[10:23] <LjL> pupil: no i'm not -- well, actually there was the Flash installation too, but that boiled down to Firefox telling me "You need the Flash plugin! Install?", and me saying "Yes"
[10:23] <pupil> LjL, whatever,. no way
[10:23] <pupil> wow
[10:24] <pupil> Thats excellent,. i will comply
[10:24] <LjL> pupil: because aptitude can remove dependencies that it auto-installed. in other words, if package A needs package B, and you later remove package A, aptitude will remove package B too (if it's not being used by anything else)
[10:24] <pupil> LjL, hmm,. sweet
[10:24] <pupil> SOLD
[10:24] <pupil> Thanks ;)
[10:25] <LjL> pupil: anyway, aptitude is almost 100% identical to apt-get in the way it's used (unless you just run "aptitude" without parameters, in which case it'll give you a textmode GUI)
[10:25] <pupil> LjL, so how do i use this unrar thing,. 
[10:25] <pupil> never used it with command line
[10:25] <LjL> pupil: unrar e <filename>, i believe
[10:27] <pupil> LjL, thank you
[10:27] <LjL> np
[10:28] <libben> LjL: so why did nalioth tell me that i should copy my azureus folder to the /usr/local/bin/ ? and it should work? he told me that i should allways install my applications into /usr/local/bin 
[10:29] <pupil> LjL, there's only one thing,. If I wanted to run IE instead of firefox,. I kinda confused how to install it, cause it requires me to Install,. then run
[10:29] <libben> should i let my azureus folder stay in ~/programs/azureus? and just try to make a ln on the executable and link it to /usr/local/bin?
[10:29] <libben> unrar x -y filname.rar
[10:29] <libben> is the trick
[10:30] <pupil> libben, you talking to me?
[10:30] <pupil> libben, my .rar file is extracted,. 
[10:30] <pupil> thank you though
[10:30] <libben> i just commented on the rar part
[10:30] <pupil> ohh
[10:30] <pupil> I have successfully extracted the .rar rile
[10:30] <pupil> file
[10:31] <libben> if u have 30 rars that are archived togheter, u type x -y to avoid the anoying question about extract from the next rar
[10:31] <libben> x == extract and -y == Answer yes on all Q's
[10:32] <LjL> pupil: i think IE would be a little more complicated to install... but Firefox on Windows really open 99% of pages in my experience. but what do you mean "install then run"?
[10:32] <chaoticgeek> why cant I connect to dalnet w/ konversation?
[10:33] <libben> LjL: so what do i do with my azureus folder? cause that is a program that u dont make compile and all that, its only java. so its nothing to specify, just extract it and then ./azureus
[10:33] <pupil> LjL, I was not sure how to install something with wine
[10:33] <LjL> libben: he was *almost* right: you shouldn't *copy the Azureus folder* to /usr/local/bin, but instead *install Azureus* in /usr/local, which is a different thing: it means it will disperse its files in the /usr/local tree, getting the executable into /usr/local/bin
[10:33] <LjL> pupil: just click on the installer, like on windows... at least, if your KDE recognizes Wine executables. mine does. if it doesn't, anyway, "wine <installerfile.exe>" from the shell will work
[10:34] <LjL> libben: let me look a the azureus directory structure
[10:34] <pupil> LjL, cool
[10:34] <pupil> I
[10:34] <LjL> pupil: you should even find any Windows app you installed inside the "Wine" menu in your menu
[10:35] <pupil> hmm
[10:36] <pupil> I'll be right back,. when I burn a cd,. I close all programs,. cause,. I am still using PIII 500 256mb ram,. runs BEAUTIFULLY though
[10:36] <LjL> pupil: ok
[10:37] <libben> pastebin dont work for me
[10:38] <LjL> libben: look, nalioth was right in the general case, but i think in the case of Azureus, you should just keep its directory somewhere (that could still be /usr/local/ though)
[10:38] <LjL> libben: why not just add it to your menu to start it?
[10:38] <libben> well i want it to be globally, so it pops when i hit tab. and cause i wanna learn more
[10:39] <LjL> libben: well, the directory structure isn't quite standard. if you want to be able to just type "azureus", you should probably add it to the PATH variable
[10:40] <libben> or make a ln with the executable into the bin?
[10:40] <LjL> libben: well, yes
[10:40] <libben> what to prefer? ln it or make it to the path? is there any special thing to do?
[10:41] <LjL> libben: yes, i suggest you move everything to /usr/local (i.e. have a directory /usr/local/azureus/) and create a symlink in /usr/local/bin
[10:41] <LjL> no, i think you're better off creating a symlink
[10:41] <heather> hey, if I installed an app using dpkg -i --force-deps and the package I installed works fine, how do I make apt-get and such keep working?
[10:41] <LjL> heather: *after* installation, they shouldn't complain anymore
[10:42] <chuso> are anybody here, who has upgrade to kde3.5rc1? I have many problems with it... Kopete doesnt work correctly
[10:42] <libben> how do i make a proper symlink with my /usr/local/Azureus/azureus into the bin?
[10:43] <LjL> chuso: i have, but i don't use kopete
[10:43] <LjL> libben: "ln -s /usr/local/Azureus/azureus /usr/local/bin/azureus"
[10:43] <libben> what does s does? 
[10:43] <LjL> create a symlink instead of a hard link
[10:43] <libben> whats the diffrence?
[10:44] <LjL> libben: in practical terms, you should almost always use symlinks. the theory behind it is...
[10:44] <LjL> libben: a "file" is something on your hard drive, that is referenced by *at least one link* (a "link" being, basically, a name such as /usr/local/something)
[10:44] <LjL> libben: "making a hardlink" is just creating more than one link to what is, effectively, the *same* file
[10:45] <heather> pastbin is down, is there an alternative?
[10:45] <LjL> libben: a symlink (symbolic link), instead, is just a link to the *original link*
[10:45] <LjL> libben: in other words: with a hardlink, you won't be able to tell the "original" file from the "link" anymore, while a symlink just references the original file
[10:45] <LjL> heather: the Ubuntu pastebin
[10:46] <LjL> heather: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[10:46] <libben> so a hard link is basicly just copy the file to another place? if i wanna look at it in a simple way?
[10:46] <LjL> libben: hmm no, it is not, because there will only be *one* file on your HD, after all
[10:46] <libben> aaah.
[10:46] <LjL> libben: it merely has two different names
[10:47] <libben> how do i remove a symlink?
[10:47] <libben> the azureus one i just made
[10:47] <LjL> libben: like you remove a file, "rm <name>"
[10:47] <heather> can someone familiar with dependancy problems look at this? I'm new to .debs... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4810
[10:48] <heather> The amarok files are nightly build files from the developers, built for sarge, but they work just fine... I had to install them with --force-depends though
[10:48] <heather> but now I cannot do anything with apt, adept, etc.
[10:49] <LjL> heather: can you paste your sources.list please?
[10:50] <LjL> libben: let me try a crazy analogy... suppose that you have two telephone numbers. you directly answer each. now, this is like hardlinks: two names (numbers) for the same thing
[10:51] <heather> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4811 inclused sources.list
[10:51] <heather> s/inclused/includes
[10:51] <LjL> libben: now, suppose you have a "primary", or "real" telephone number, and another number with a voice that simply says "This is a redirect number, please call XYZ" -- this is like a symlink
[10:52] <LjL> heather: i don't think this is the culprit, but, remove every line with "hoary" from your sources.list... they shouldn't be there i think
[10:53] <LjL> heather: also, i assume you've done an "apt-get update"?
[10:54] <heather> LjL: yes - removing them (and the CDROM reference) and doing it again
[10:54] <LjL> heather: i also assume you've tried "apt-get -f install", just like it says
[10:54] <heather> doesn't work
[10:56] <LjL> heather: hmm try removing amarok-gstreamer
[10:59] <heather> LjL: that helped for one error
[10:59] <heather> LjL: I think the problem is that I have two versions of amarok installed, possibly
[11:00] <LjL> heather: that would be strange...
[11:00] <LjL> i'll try to reproduce it here
[11:01] <heather> apt-cache show amarok shows to versions installed
[11:01] <heather> I'll try to remove one
[11:01] <LjL> heather: "show" doesn't show what you have *installed*, but just what is in the repos
[11:02] <heather> ah, hrmm
[11:02] <heather> how do I tell what's installed?
[11:02] <LjL> apt-cache policy <package>, i think
[11:04] <LjL> you know what's strange, i am *not* getting a new version of amarok from marillat?!
[11:05] <LjL> it doesn't even show, only 1.3.1 and 1.3.5 show
[11:05] <heather> I didn't get it from there, I got it from the #amarok people
[11:05] <heather> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4814
[11:05] <LjL> oic
[11:06] <heather> is there a way I can force apt-get to disregard the fact that those packages have unmet deps? (they work just fine)
[11:06] <LjL> look, when i installed package and forced the depends, apt-get never complained about them...
[11:06] <LjL> actually, that's not true, as i use aptitude, not apt-get
[11:07] <heather> nevermind, I have to go, I'll continue this later perhaps
[11:07] <LjL> try "sudo aptitude install bittorrent-gui" just to be sure it's not a difference between apt-get and aptitude
[11:08] <chaoticgeek> ok, I know how to make links, ln -s myfile targetfile, but what kind of file do I use to make the link to the target file?
[11:09] <chaoticgeek> never mind
[11:11] <sampan> my old install of (k)ubuntu must have been weird somehow ... a fresh (re-)install now has amarok using only 3-6% cpu instead of 16-30% -- very strange, but nice -- now i just gotta try to remember how to install skype again
[11:11] <LjL> chaoticgeek: uh? :) a symlink is a symlink
[11:11] <LjL> ... is a symlink
[11:19] <claudiu> hi all
[11:20] <claudiu> does anybody know how can i get rid off some shortcuts in kmenu ?
[11:20] <il_pez> hello
[11:21] <il_pez> i have a problem to recevied mail (sorry, my english is poor)
[11:21] <il_pez> help!!!
[11:28] <fatejudger> is there a way to play Quicktime 7 movies in xine or gstreamer?
[11:31] <sampan> claudio, if you right-click the kmenu you should see an entry for "menu editor" -- you can delete or add or rearrange shortcuts at will
[11:31] <slow-motion> n8
[11:32] <claudiu> sampan: kmenuedit wont work for this
[11:32] <claudiu> i have a few redundant shortcuts which i cant delete with kmenuedit
[11:33] <claudiu> after i click Save, they dont get deleted off my menu
[11:33] <claudiu> also i have a few recent shortcuts which dont get displayed
[11:34] <fatejudger> claudiu: restart kdm
[11:34] <claudiu> i made up a new account and the menu is ok there, so it is a problem related to my settings
[11:35] <claudiu> i had gxine installed a week ago and the icon is still there in my menu
[11:35] <claudiu> seems like the menu is read only
[11:35] <claudiu> i grepped my homedir for those shortcuts and without success
[11:36] <claudiu> is it that gnome s**t again messing my kde menus ?
[11:38] <sampan> hrmmmmm ... i have gnome installed too and thought it adds a lot of entries, it hasn't ever messed up my menueditor like that
[11:39] <claudiu> sampan: i already deleted .config and had no luck with it
[11:39] <sampan> :(
[11:40] <claudiu> i am going to make myself a fresh new account and transfer everything there
[11:40] <claudiu> bye
[11:44] <BFA|WoRsTeNBoY> anyone here knows a quick way to strip the last character of a string in bash?
[11:47] <Stele> hit backspacd?
[11:47] <Stele> er, backspace?
[11:51] <LjL> BFA|WoRsTeNBoY: echo String | rev | cut -b 2- | rev
[11:52] <BFA|WoRsTeNBoY> wow
[11:52] <BFA|WoRsTeNBoY> k
[11:52] <BFA|WoRsTeNBoY> i'll try :)
[11:53] <Stele> you could probably do it with "sed"
[11:53] <Stele> but the syntax would be just as ugly, or worse
[11:54] <BFA|WoRsTeNBoY> it works and i understand :p
[11:54] <LjL> well "cut" just removes the first character from the string (i.e. makes it start from the "second" = "-b 2-" character), while the two "rev"s reverse the string and then reverse it back
[11:56] <claudiu> hi sampan 
[11:56] <mixi> !mplayer
[11:56] <ubotu> from memory, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[11:56] <claudiu> sampan: i did it!
[11:56] <kairu0> i have a conflict with my pcmcia wireless card and my sound card that makes me hear static. how do i resolve it?
[11:57] <claudiu> sampan: i just erased /tmp and /var/tmp/, and now kde menu isnt readonly anymore