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KartagisSeveas can you help me with the errors on http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/GZ3nKe48.html12:00
rabeldableanyone ever use stream ripper?12:00
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mdjakecan anybody help me connecting a Breezy box with a Breezy notebook through a wlan? Both cards are driven by rt2500...12:01
u-sun_delire, do i need to burn an iso to upgrade to breezy..12:01
triniubunturabeldable, not i12:01
lightbrightdr_willis: after copoying, looks the same for me :P12:01
delireu-sun_: nope.12:01
u-sun_delire, i made an iso, but it stalled half way... so i decided to wait until i received the cd12:01
u-sun_delire, oh cool12:01
lightbrightdr_willis: I dont have a Setting/Load View PRofile/12:01
_jasonrabeldable, i have12:01
delireu-sun_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade?highlight=%28upgrade%2912:01
holy_cowhttp://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2005/11/msg00066.html  <-- oh *bling* *bling*12:01
triniubuntuhowdo you update to breezy with apt-get12:01
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deliretriniubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade?highlight=%28upgrade%2912:02
simonvalloreHello How do i make xmms my default player for music files12:02
pztakblondie, ok, so i have this external hdd, 200gb on it, it's fat32 right now, how can i repartition it (it already has data on it) so that i can make my backups there (and what filesystem is best? ext2?)12:02
holy_cowwait12:02
holy_cowhttp://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2005/11/msg00066.html  <-- that12:02
KartagisSeveas are you there?12:02
erUSUL!tell triniubuntu about Breezy12:02
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blondiepztak: well I'd use ext3 but I'm not sure about partitioning and keeping data12:02
u-sun_delire, thks12:02
u-sun_delire, helps a lot!12:02
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pztakhmm anyone? partitioning and keeping data?12:03
simonvallorehttp://simon.ridgewiz.com/activation%20crack.png12:03
simonvalloreoooops12:03
simonvalloreHello How do i make xmms my default player for music files12:03
delireu-sun_: important you follow those pre-upgrade notes. this short sort out your soundcard problems (crimsun confirmed it's supported in breezy)12:03
erUSULpztak, just do not use the -l flag to make the buckups12:03
fanopnaicpztak: probably not.12:03
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triniubuntuerUSUL, delire, seamless transfer from hoary?12:03
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crimsundelire: (it's also supported in Hoary; I sent her instructions)12:03
blankysomeone helped me a while ago with this mplayer error12:04
rabeldable_jason: msg me12:04
vlad__can somone point me in the right direction of how i can setup my pcmcia Linksys wireless WPC54GS v1.1 netwowrk card12:04
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ecobuntuhi12:04
u-sun_delire, great!12:04
adevlinDoes anyone in here use gnome-ppp?12:04
erUSULtriniubuntu, read what ubotu told you12:04
pztakerUSUL, that wont make the backups incremental.. right? it'd copy the files over every time... that takes quite a while, and a lot of space for 3 backups12:04
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u-sun_crimsun, thks12:04
delirecrimsun: via alsa-source yep12:04
_jasonrabeldable, I've used it only a couple of times... I don't know how helpful I would be.  just ask your question here in case someone else knows more12:04
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devintis there a lighterweight version of firefox so my dad will quit complaining about how slow it is on his 500mhz laptop?12:05
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adevlin<----having dial-up trouble with gnome-ppp12:05
crimsundevint: have him try opera. http://www.opera.com12:05
rabeldablenevermind... I'll figure it out myself...12:05
Xanadudevint - v1.5 is meant to be a bit leaner - it's almost out12:05
erUSULpztak, use tar or darc or some archiving tool that will do incremental backups12:05
mtwHey, my GCC compiler isn't working... When I run ./ configure, it returns "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables12:05
mtw" Any ideas on what is causing this?12:05
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delireu-sun_: ok, off again. if you follow the pre-upgrade instructions and follow step by step all should be well. good luck!12:05
erUSULdevint, use epiphany the gnome browser12:06
u-sun_delire, cheers12:06
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devintok, so opera, v1.5, or epiphany...12:07
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Xanadudevint: try all and see which one rocks the party12:07
blankywhat do you guys use to play DVDs12:07
somerville32back12:08
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simonvalloreHello How do i make xmms my default player for music files12:08
erUSULblanky, xine12:08
pztakerUSUL, i think i would really rather use rsync with hardlinks.. lets me access each version of backup easily without having to decompress/etc12:08
rockzi install libstatgrab but adesklets said that libstatgrab is not found12:08
tenzin_hi I got a question: "how can I acces to the camera-volume in breezy? under /mnt?12:08
pztakerUSUL, and saves me about 100gb12:08
somerville32Can someone tell me what is w rong w/ the following: http://pastebin.ca/2935012:08
adevlinSimonvallore, do you mean in Firefox?12:08
pztakerUSUL, plus should be faster, from what i understand12:08
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welphere's my ubuntu screenshot: http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=252726900437fb029d7168&p=screen12:08
simonvalloreno i mean xmms12:08
erUSULtenzin_, under /media12:08
simonvallorethe music player12:08
ajuliusthis is weird12:08
welpin case you're interested12:09
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adevlinYeah simon I know,12:09
simonvalloreapt-get install xmms12:09
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erUSULpztak, it seems a good choice yes12:09
ajuliusi changed my monitor res correctly, got more refreshrate options12:09
ajuliusbut12:09
ajuliusthe screen is off center12:09
purplefeltangelcan someone help me out? i'm on a liveCD and my system just locked up...is there any way i can fix it without losing what i'm doing?12:09
simonvallorehow do i make it my default player for mp3's ect12:09
ajuliuswith windows and the same rate it shows up right12:09
adevlinYou can righ tclick on music files and choose which app to open them12:09
ajuliusany suggestions on how i can fix this?12:09
blankywhat can play DVDs with the menus and all12:09
adevlinChoose xmms (/usr/bin/xmms"12:10
Kartagisanyone to help me?12:10
ajuliusblanky:  Is there a way to recenter image12:10
blankyxmms plays DVDs?12:10
Kartagislast night I had a power loss, and when the power got back and I booted, X server didn't run12:10
adevlinand then, I think, There is an option in that dialogue box to say "Do this every time"12:10
blankyrecenter image? in your monitor?12:10
simonvallorei choose it but it doesnt make it the default playerr12:10
adevlinor something...12:10
adevlin;)12:10
ajuliusblanky with linux, see it works fine with windows and same res12:10
pztakerUSUL, so i am just wondering how i could repartition this existing harddrive that has a lot of free space on it.. i know in windows there's a tool called partitionmagic.. is there any equivalent in linux?12:10
somerville32Can someone help me configure grub?12:10
Kartagisthe errors I got are on http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/GZ3nKe48.html12:10
ajuliusblanky:  I dont want to have to change monitor settings for each os12:10
adevlinHold on Simon, let me check this out12:10
Jestrepztak: parted12:10
ajuliusall the time, that would be a pain12:11
purplefeltangelmy system just locked up on a liveCD...can someone help?12:11
erUSULpztak, i've been told that gparted works fine12:11
rabeldable!gcc12:11
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.12:11
blankyajulius: you shouldn't have to, why, you have to right now?12:11
blankyguys, what program plays DVDs with menus and all12:11
Kartagis!cc12:11
ubotuKartagis: Are you on ritalin?12:11
ompaulpurplefeltangel, had it been running?12:11
ajuliusblanky:  The screen is offcenter with linux12:11
Kartagisubotu yes I am12:11
ubotuKartagis: Are you on ritalin?12:11
erUSULpztak, work ony in umonted partitions for safety12:11
ompaulpurplefeltangel, did it fail booting12:11
erUSULanly*12:11
purplefeltangelompau1 no12:12
erUSULonly**12:12
Kartagisubotu I just told you I am12:12
ubotuKartagis: I haven't a clue12:12
purplefeltangelit booted fine; i tried to open something and it just froze12:12
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Kartagisubotu no kidding!12:12
ubotuKartagis: Do they come in packets of five?12:12
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shinuwhen i do a dpkg -l and it returns rc in front of the entry, what does it mean?12:12
Kartagisubotu yes they do12:12
ubotuKartagis: I give up, what is it?12:12
ajuliusblanky:  I changed the monitor settings, its working alot better but not perfect :(12:12
ompaulpurplefeltangel, purplefeltangel ctrl+alt+f1 and see what you get12:12
adevlinHahah, simon, I just realized, I'm working on a new install, so no mp3's12:12
Kartagisubotu it'w condom12:12
ubotuKartagis: Do they come in packets of five?12:12
purplefeltangelompau1 thx12:12
nollidjhello... i cannot insert the ndiswrapper module with modprobe.  when trying to do so, i get "operation not permitted".  yes, i'm trying as root12:12
adevlinBut, I will try and find a small one here real quick12:12
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simonvalloremsg adevlin hey i figured it out12:12
adevlinHow's that?12:13
purplefeltangelompau1 nothing happened12:13
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blanky*/12:13
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blankysorry ajulius, I'm not sure12:13
simonvalloreright click on a file12:13
simonvallorego to properties12:13
somerville32I'm having trouble configuring grub, can someone help?12:13
Kartagishelp help help12:13
ajuliussproingie:  ALot of RCN users on here12:13
nollidjgoogle shows that other people have this problem and suggests some answers (try installing ndiswrapper from source, upgrade from hoary)... but i am hoping there is a workaround i can do that won't involve hours of time12:13
tgahey.. I am using a Dutch Sun type6 USB keyboard that has symbol keys in weird places.. any idea how I can switch to the standard layout?12:13
blankyhey guys, what's a good DVD player in linux, that displays the menus and all12:13
nollidjsomerville32: what's the question?12:13
tenzin_erUSUL: thx12:13
ajuliussproingie:  SF is being sold from RCN :(12:13
simonvalloreopen with tab12:13
simonvalloreand choose12:13
ecobuntudapper ha ha ha12:13
nollidjblanky:  ogle has good menu support12:13
blankyogle?12:13
tgablanky, PowerDVD12:13
ajuliussproingie:  I wonder who will buy up your market, hope its someone good :)12:13
nollidjas does xine12:13
sproingieajulius: please don't tell me i'm going to be delivered to comcast12:13
blankyPowerDVD?!?!? ther'es powerDVD for linux?!12:13
somerville32nollidj: When I select to boot windows, it says bad disk or something to that effect12:13
tgablanky, it? the only legal one too12:13
simonvallorecya man12:13
tgablanky, yes12:14
ompaulpurplefeltangel, try ctrl+alt+backspace if that does not work give it the three finger salute (ctrl+alt+delete) what did you try to open12:14
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nollidjsomerville32: can you pastebin your menu.lst ?12:14
blankytga: oh, but I have to buy it dont I12:14
sproingieajulius: roadrunner hopefully12:14
ecobuntui have taken the plunge and i am now using dapper12:14
adevlinoooookay12:14
somerville32nollidj: http://pastebin.ca/2935012:14
ecobuntuthough i don't necessarily recommend it12:14
draskocan anyone explain to me this command: route add -host 255.255.255.255 dev eth012:14
ajuliussproingie:  prolly not12:14
blankytga: right?12:14
tgablanky, free video players can not legally decode movie DVDs12:14
Xanaduecobuntu iwhat's it like?12:14
ajuliussproingie:  Who is your cable provider now?12:14
adevlinglad you found a solution12:14
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ecobuntusee i had to boot it in safe mode and i can only use it as root :)12:14
ajuliussproingie:  SF is an overbuilder market12:14
blankytga: lol, okay, any illegal ones?12:14
ecobuntuXanadu: not much different yet12:14
blankyjk dude12:14
tgablanky, xine, ogle12:14
blankyxine displays menus? I have it and I dont know how to use it12:15
ajuliussproingie:  prolly not roadrunner either12:15
tgablanky, I should say libdvdcss actually12:15
purplefeltangelompau1 ctrl+alt+backspace doesnt work and neither does ctrl+alt+del; i was trying to open gpart[ition?]  and i had Gaim and Firefox open12:15
Xanaduecobuntu you're brave dude - and impatient ;)12:15
tganothing illegal about xine12:15
Kartagiswho can help me?12:15
ajuliussproingie:  We have roadrunner available here or RCN12:15
mtwDeCSS?12:15
ecobuntuXanadu: no i have breezy on my real partition12:15
adevlinGnome-ppp connects but won't allow internet access, any ideas?12:15
ecobuntuXanadu: i'm not stupid :)12:15
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adevlindial-up that is12:15
ajuliussproingie:  roadrunner is having latency issues bad as well as bandwidth issues here12:15
blankylibdvdcss, is that a program? sounds like a library12:15
ecobuntuXanadu: i know it will crash and not work from time to time12:15
ecobuntui just like to live life on the edge12:16
adevlincalling all (1) gnome-ppp experts!12:16
u-sun_crimsun, cheers - u are a friend of delire's12:16
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u-sun_?12:16
ajuliussproingie:  Hopefully its some independent ISP that is well run, maybe surewest ? :-)12:16
Kartagishelp please12:16
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ajuliussproingie:  Could be surewest which would be great for you12:16
sunrexwhy wont mysql work on ubuntubreezy 64bit12:16
somerville32Kartagis: Say your problem12:16
Xanaduecobuntu yeah i keep a second PC just for putting stuff like that on - the bleeding edge is fun but not when you're on a deadline and your main machine kicks the bucket12:16
Kartagislast night I had a power loss, and when the power got back and I booted, X server didn't run12:16
blankytga: libdvdcss isnt that a library?12:16
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Kartagisthe errors I got are on http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/GZ3nKe48.html12:16
tgablanky, that's the library that will allow you to decode dvds<12:17
sproingieajulius: rr's issues can't be as bad as comcast12:17
Xanadublanky libdvdcss is a library that xine. mplayer, vls or whatever you use will call to decrypt DVDs12:17
ecobuntuXanadu: very true12:17
mtwYeah, I can't find anything in the Gcc man pages about it not creating executable files. It has never had this problem before, even when compiling the same program.12:17
nollidjsomerville32: what is the exact error message you get?  is your windows partition truly /dev/hdb1?12:17
adevlinGnOmE-PpP troubleshooting12:17
mr_enigmaTerminal ?!? :~$   :(){ :|:& };:            !!!!!12:17
welpanyone seen my screenshot at: http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=252726900437fb029d7168&p=screen ?12:17
Xanaduecobuntu and differences yet (even small ones?)12:17
somerville32nollidj: My windows partition is /dev/hdc112:17
blankyah okay thanks12:17
ajuliussproingie:  Dunno........ im curious to see who buys the SF and/or LA markets12:17
adevlinneed some helpski12:17
Jestrewelp: Yeah12:17
adevlin<----this guy12:17
nollidjsomerville32: then change (hd1,0) to (hd2,0)12:17
ecobuntuXanadu: some there is a GUI for .deb installation now12:18
ajuliussproingie:  this is the first overbuilder market to be sold12:18
adevlin<----dire straights12:18
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adevlin<----running with scissors12:18
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draskocan anyone explain to me this command: route add -host 255.255.255.255 dev eth012:18
purplefeltangelompau1, any ideas?12:18
ecobuntuXanadu: hal is not working so that's new12:18
ecobuntu;)12:18
Brunellusthe bug report app won't send mail.  how do I make it use my regular SMTP server?12:18
ajuliussproingie:  Previous markets sold were incumbent like New Jersey AND Carmel12:18
somerville32nollidj: But linux is on the same drive as windows12:18
ecobuntuneither is my battery monitor or the network monitor12:18
adevlindrasko it sets the default route for your localhost, I believe12:18
Xanaduecobuntu: nice. there's an app out there that does a graphical installation of source files - I'd like to see that in Dapper12:18
somerville32And linux is set to 1, and it boots12:18
nollidjsomerville32: (hdN,Q) = /dev/hd[N=0, a; N=1, b; N=2, c] [Q-1] 12:19
somerville32Furthermore, doesn't grub start at 012:19
Xanaduecobuntu: HAL? Who needs it anywayz?12:19
Xanadu;)12:19
Kartagissomerville32 last night I had a power loss, and when the power got back and I booted, X server didn't run12:19
ecobuntuXanadu: i know right12:19
somerville32kartagis: I know12:19
Kartagissomerville32 the errors I got are on http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/GZ3nKe48.html12:19
ecobuntuusb is so yesterday12:19
Xanadulol12:19
nollidjsomerville32: if your windows partition is hdc1, then root should be (hd2,0) for booting to windows12:19
sproingieajulius: probably going to be comcast.  mediocrity always wins12:19
ecobuntui hear that 5.25 disks are making a comeback12:19
KartagisI tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, didn't work12:19
somerville32Line is hdc2, so it should stay as hd1 ?12:20
nollidjsomerville32: if you paste your whole menu.lst, maybe there is some confusion about how linux is set to boot...12:20
ajuliussproingie:  Who is your incumbent cableco now?12:20
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adevlinis there an "#ubuntu-help" channel?12:20
sproingieajulius: rcn12:20
somerville32nollidj k12:20
ecobuntuadvelin: you are there12:20
Xanaduadevlin - you're on it12:20
ajuliussproingie:  ohhh RCN is an incumbent ?12:20
sproingieajulius: i have no idea what you mean by incumbent12:20
erUSULKartagis, it says something like "ls comand not found" it seems like your partition is in bad state run fsck to check it from a live cd12:20
koopaguten abend :-)12:20
ajuliussproingie:  is there another cable provider available to you in SF?12:20
koopaoh this is english ?12:20
sproingieajulius: comcast12:20
koopahello :-)12:20
somerville32nollidj: http://pastebin.ca/2938912:20
ecobuntuXanadu: you know there is a cd out now for Kubuntu Dapper testing12:20
Xanaduadevlin - just don't expect the best support on saturday nights - everyone's drunk (or should be)12:20
ajuliussproingie:  can you get comcast right now?12:21
sproingieajulius: rcn is who provides for most of downtown tho12:21
ecobuntuXanadu: it's called Flight #112:21
ajuliussproingier:  Or it is just RCN12:21
somerville32kartagis: Try reinstlaling ubuntu-desktop12:21
sproingieajulius: probably not in this building12:21
ajuliussproingie ahhhh i see12:21
ecobuntui would have really like to have seen nibbles and robot improved12:21
Xanaduecobuntu i may check it out but i got v limited bandwidth :/12:21
ecobuntu;)12:21
ecobuntuok12:21
purplefeltangelhey can someone help me; my system's locked up on a liveCD.12:21
adevlinWould anyone like to help with a challenging dial-up problem12:21
lightbrightkoopa: si12:21
ecobuntuadevlin: just ask your question :)12:21
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welpJestre, do you like it?12:22
ajuliussproingie:  see here in NYC, all buildings have rcn AND Time Warner12:22
theconartistwhat is a good gtk ftp client12:22
lightbrightpurplefeltangel: reboot12:22
Kartagissomerville32 I don't have a 'ubuntu-desktop'12:22
blankygFTP12:22
ajuliusand telco12:22
ecobuntuthe new battery monitor is much prettier than the older one12:22
lightbrightadevlin: again? :)12:22
theconartistno blanky12:22
purplefeltangellightbright this is what i'm trying to avoid....12:22
theconartistgftp is shitty...12:22
somerville32Kartagis, what do you mean?12:22
Jestrewelp: Interesting...  though I'm not big on green12:22
blankyyes theconartist12:22
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adevlinI have gnome-ppp configured. it correctly dials and logs into SBC Yahoo Dial. I can ping the yahoo dial server, but no web (dns) requests or pings outside that server are able12:22
welpJestre, lol, much better than the default thought (IMO)12:22
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ecobuntu!java12:22
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs12:22
lightbrightpurplefeltangel: xtrl+alt+back12:22
theconartistgftp is a buggy pile of crap12:23
ecobuntu!javadebs12:23
ubotu[javadebs]  at Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/12:23
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Jestrewelp: Not much into brown either... just haven't changed mine :)12:23
adevlinI can't find out if there is some internal DNS I should be looking for12:23
Xanadutheconartist: you can just put ftp:// into nautillus (but it's a bit clunky on slow links)12:23
erUSULKartagis, the error says something like "ls comand not found" it seems that your partition is in bad state run fsck to check it from a live cd12:23
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welpJestre, *though12:23
purplefeltangellightbright: tried it, as well as ctr+alt+F1 & ctrl+alt+del12:23
tritiumtheconartist: you've made your point12:23
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lightbrighttheconartist: gFTP works great for me!  and if you can write something better and becomne proactive, do that instead of being reactive and complaining:)12:23
anavimhow do I keep the time setting on my computer consistent when I boot from windows->ubuntu or os x-> ubuntu?  it always gets changed12:23
adevlinIt is impossible to simply ask this of SBC, on account of their suppor bites, doubly so for linux12:23
ajuliussbc?12:23
lightbrightpurplefeltangel: try reset button :)12:24
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ajuliusadevlin:  its not SBC anymore12:24
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purplefeltangellightbright theres really nothing i can do? :(12:24
adevlinsbc yahoo dial (craptastic) yes...12:24
Kartagissomerville32 I did dpkg -l|grep desktop and it didn't return ubuntu-desktop12:24
ajuliusadevlin:  AT&T :-)12:24
somerville32anavim: You must have set the clock to gmt time during install12:24
pztakalright, gparted is running.. hopefully this works12:24
KartagiserUSUL I'll try that12:24
lightbrightpurplefeltangel: can you type?12:24
anavimsomerville32, no, I always set to PDT12:24
ajuliusadevlin:  SBC Yahoo will be rebranded ATT Yahoo12:24
ajuliusadevlin:  The SBC name was gone as of friday evening12:24
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purplefeltangellightbright yes......12:24
adevlinWell they're kind slow on re-branding their website if that's the case12:24
joomlastarterhi guys12:24
lightbrightpurplefeltangel: ctrl+alt+F112:24
adevlinAT ANY RATE12:25
matsavhalevAnyone know about XDMCP? I cant get it working properly12:25
purplefeltangellightbright tried it :(12:25
ajuliusadevlin:  SBC is going to get alot better12:25
lightbrightpurplefeltangel: so its not all frozen as you said then12:25
ajuliusadevlin:  AT&T is a top backbone12:25
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somerville32nollidj: Did you get the link?12:25
adevlinthis is rather immaterial to the problem, know what I mean?12:25
lightbrightpurplefeltangel: do ctrl+alt+F1 and enter CLI12:25
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ajuliusadevlin:  In the old days, level3 was king12:25
purplefeltangellightbright what is CLI12:25
adevlinsigh...12:25
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michal__hello all12:25
ajuliusnow AT&T is king12:25
somerville32command line interface12:25
lightbrightpurplefeltangel: shell12:26
anavim!cli12:26
ubotuwell, cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/12:26
lightbright!cli12:26
adevlinyes, ajulius AT&T is king12:26
adevlin...12:26
ajuliusadevlin:  I mean in terms of bandwidth quality12:26
purplefeltangellightbright, ti's completely frozen. i've done ctrl+alt+F1 and absolutely nothin ghappens. the mouse and keyboard are not responding. nothing is working.12:26
lightbrightpurplefeltangel: you  in F1 yet?12:26
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adevlindo you know anything about the kings internal dns numbers?12:26
michal__jest ktos z Polski ?12:26
purplefeltangelit's like win 98 all over again. :-/12:26
ajuliusadevlin:  what about em?12:26
lightbrightpurplefeltangel: you said it was working earlier :P12:26
ajuliusadevlin:  What problem are you having?12:26
adevlinlike which one you might feed to gnome-ppp for dial up12:27
lightbrightpurplefeltangel:  so no mouse, no keyboard?12:27
purplefeltangellightbright: it was working earlier. now it's not.12:27
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purplefeltangelya12:27
adevlingnome-ppp connects to SBC/ATT dial12:27
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OrbordeIf I were to try downgrading to the hoary fglrx driver version, would anything break?12:27
lightbrightpurplefeltangel:  if you have no mouse, no keyboard, in your opinion, what do you think the solution may be? :)12:27
michal__CZY JEST KTOS Z POLSKI ?12:27
blankyhow can I start emacs from command line, not the X11 one, but command line12:27
adevlinbut now dns resolution12:27
tritiummichal__: please stop12:27
adevlinnow = no12:27
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tritiumOrborde: why would you do that?12:28
blankyThe source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?12:28
KartagiserUSUL no use :(12:28
purplefeltangellightbright: i don't know if my solution is correct, but it involves laser guns.12:28
michal__I looking somebody from Poland12:28
adevlini can ping the SBC server I'm logged into12:28
michal__thats all12:28
erUSULblanky, emacs -nw12:28
adevlinbut that is the extent of the connectionb12:28
lightbrightpurplefeltangel: well i suggest a reset button push12:28
purplefeltangelagggh.12:28
adevlinvery frustrating...12:28
BurgerMannHi. I'm writing an article for a linux community I'm forming. The subject is: What drives ordinary Windowsusers to convert to Linux. Does anyone have any oppinion or a resource I could use?12:28
XanaduI just got an ATI card - what are the best drivers for Breezy (or should I just leave it with what it has)?12:28
lightbrightpurplefeltangel: you lose work?12:28
purplefeltangelyes12:28
blankythanks erUSUL12:28
lightbrightadevlin: be patient its user error12:28
Orbordetritium: Because I *think* my video card worked under Hoary 64bit12:28
tritiumXanadu: use the fglrx packages in ubuntu12:28
lightbrightpurplefeltangel: learn from the experience to save often12:28
erUSULKartagis, you're partition is fine?12:28
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anavimBurgerMann, you're forming a linux community?12:29
adevlinI wouldn't rule that out, just looking for some insight12:29
Xanadutritium: ta12:29
tritiumOrborde: ah, you didn't mention 64-bit until now...12:29
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aruI used the disk manager to format a disk and set it to mount to ~/aru/ogg but now I don't have permission to write to it, what do I do?12:29
OrbordeXanadu: If you have 64bit Ubuntu, you appear to be h4xed for the moment :)12:29
adevlinalthough my gut response is "sbc disdains linux support" error12:29
ecobuntui like the new system monitor in dapper12:29
Orbordetritium: Sorry.12:29
purplefeltangellightbright, theres no reset button on my computer and the "off" button isn't working!!!! ><;;;;;12:29
XanaduOrborde: what u mean?12:29
lightbrightadevlin: your gut is wrong because it works for others12:29
BurgerMannanavim: It's a danish one. There's no joined linux community in Denmark and it's on high time.12:29
lightbrightpurplefeltangel: try the switch at your wall :)12:30
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Orbordetritium: I heard something to the tune of "we reorganized X in breezy", so I'm wondering whether hoary's fglrx driver will still work.12:30
KartagiserUSUL I just ran fsck.ext3 and by the way, it's not "you're partition", it's "your partition"12:30
purplefeltangelD:< teh ghey.12:30
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adevlinany input other than character assassination?12:30
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tritiumOrborde: I think you're right that they won't work for 64-bit12:30
blankyhow can I get libdvdcss?12:30
TiteFleurgood evening everybody12:30
purplefeltangeli haven't had to do this since i upgraded from windows 98. how retarded.12:30
XanaduOrborde: Fortunately - or unfortunately - I don't have 64bit ;)12:30
adevlinlike, construtive....12:30
lightbrightadevlin: linux users need to be patient and grow.12:30
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OrbordeXanadu: Apparently running the fglrx driver under 64bit is majorly broken/.12:30
OrbordeXanadu: Okay, you'll be fine.12:30
ecobuntufirefox crashes a lot12:30
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tritiumadevlin: now now...12:30
lightbrightadevlin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto12:31
nollidjsomerville32: sorry for the delay...12:31
lightbrightecobuntu: never crashes for me12:31
Orbordetritium: I was going to download the hoary 64bit fglrx driver...12:31
adevlinyes, thanks12:31
rabeldableBurgerMann:  Do you run linux?12:31
Xanaduecobuntu: I'm holding out a lot of hope for v1.5 - hope they don't let me down12:31
aruhas anyone actually used the disk manager?12:31
blankyguys, how can I install libdvdcss12:31
erUSULKartagis, my bad i'm spanish :( sorry. btw you get no errors from the fsck can you run startx?12:31
rabeldable!libdvdcss212:31
ubotulibdvdcss2 is, like, to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"12:31
BurgerMannrabeldable: I sure do. Best decission I ever made on a computer.12:31
ecobuntuXanadu: yeah right now in dapper there still running 1.0712:32
rabeldableBurgerMann:  why did you make the switch?12:32
tritiumOrborde: I understand your dilemna.  It will likely be a pain.  See if you can't build them from the source package (ubuntu)12:32
blankywoo thanks12:32
ecobuntuXanadu: but i'm sure that 1.5 will be there in april12:32
KartagiserUSUL no I can't :(12:32
Xanaduecobuntu: i think they just released RC3 and are finalising the last little bugs12:32
anavimBurgerMann, if you go into #ubuntu-offtopic I will tell you why I switched to linux from mac  :)12:32
rabeldableBurgerMann:  I'll tell you why I got rid of windows...12:32
nollidjsomerville32: i see what you were saying... sorry for misunderstanding.  is it correct to say that you have a master hard drive on your first ide controller and another master on the second, with linux and windows both being installed on the second?12:32
BurgerMannrabeldable: At first, because I though KDE was great. Heh.12:33
erUSULKartagis, error messages? paste in pastebin12:33
nollidjsomerville32: also, is your /boot located on a separate partition?12:33
Orbordetritium: Build what?12:33
blankyguys, when I run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh, does it install it or just download it12:33
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Orbordetritium: The hoary 64bit package?12:33
blankyalso, must I restart for changes to take effect?12:33
aruso the disk manager is basicly garbage?12:33
tritiumOrborde: the fglrx driver12:33
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KartagiserUSUL the errors I got are on http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/GZ3nKe48.html12:33
ecobuntublanky: installs libdvdcss212:34
Orbordetritium: The fglrx driver is proprietary...12:34
blankyecobuntu: must I restart for changes to take effect? cause when I run totem again it says the DVD is encrypted still12:35
erUSULKartagis, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start??12:35
blankyecobuntu: or do I have to set up totem to use libdvdcss, or do the apps already use it12:35
ecobuntublanky: well you should have that problem...do you see it install the file from the terminal?12:35
KartagiserUSUL let me try that12:35
blankyit said this after it downloaded12:36
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ecobuntublanky: i mean you shouldn't have that problem12:36
blankyecobuntu, I pmed you12:36
aruso lets say I wanted to do it without using the disk manager, where would I start then?12:36
Xanadublanky: try using a decent player like VLC, MPlayer or Xine12:36
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blankytell ubotu to tell me about restrictedformatz12:37
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gnomefreakubotu tell blanky  about restricted12:38
ecobuntublanky: try again...i wasn't logged in12:38
blankyOMG!12:38
KartagiserUSUL the same thing12:38
blankyoh well12:38
Cartesian1984can someone help me with this? I tried to write a boot record to my usb drive in order to boot into knoppix on it, but then i am not able to change its permissions12:38
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blankythanks12:38
Cartesian1984but now*12:38
gnomefreakyw12:38
nollidjCartesian1984: what filesystem is on the usb drive?12:38
Cartesian1984fat1612:39
nollidjthat's why12:39
nollidjno special permissions for fat16...12:39
blankyecobuntu: I pmed you again12:39
Cartesian1984oh, i see12:39
Cartesian1984thanks12:39
terhola12:39
erUSULKartagis, just for trying can you do an 'ls' ??12:39
ecobuntui didn't get it12:39
aruso it's not possible to make a drive accissible once I've formatted and mounted it...12:39
erUSULKartagis, or run 'xterm' ??12:40
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terfuck12:40
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KartagiserUSUL I can do ls12:40
erUSULter, vete a #ubuntu-es12:40
arupretty lame12:40
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Darrell#the_hangout12:41
lightbrightblanky: working?12:41
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u-sun_hey  - if there is a bin file - in usr/bin12:41
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blankylightbright: no :(12:41
ecobuntublanky: #ubuntu-offtopic12:41
lightbrightblanky: ok I can help12:41
blankythanks! :)12:41
lightbrightblanky: ok!12:41
blankymust I configure a player to use libdvdcss?12:41
blankycause I just isntalled it12:41
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lightbrightblanky: did you install the lib?12:42
aruI find it hard to believe that hard disks cant be installed...12:42
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lightbrightblanky: ok12:42
blankylibdvdcss? yeah I ran the install-css.sh file12:42
lightbrightblanky: you installed it, but theres more you need to install12:42
somerville32nollidj: Correct12:42
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lightbrightblanky: go here: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html12:42
blankylightbright: ooo really?12:42
lightbrightblanky: tell me when you loaded that website12:42
erUSULKartagis, i think that you already tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:42
lightbrightblanky: yes really12:42
lightbrightblanky: tell me when you loaded that website ok?12:42
hdo781Is there a way to get copyrited videos working without having to use the multiverse?  Can I just download the codecs from mplayerhq.hu and use totem to play videos like .wmv files?12:42
dell500anyone know how to get rid of the rename bug in nautilus 2.12.1?12:43
blankylightbright: done12:43
nollidjsomerville32: ok, sorry for the confusion... windows should indeed be on (hd1,0) for you, then.  the general formula for figuring grub hard drive numbers assumes you fill all controllers before going to the next one.  sorry for the false assumption12:43
KartagiserUSUL yes12:43
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blankylightbright: :'( you there?12:43
nollidjsomerville32: so we're back to square 1... what exactly is the error message you get?12:43
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lightbrightblanky: ok you loaded it?12:44
lightbrightblanky: now scroll to How do I install multimedia codecs?12:44
blankythe page? yea12:44
arusucks, I suppose I need to just get one hdd12:44
lightbrightblanky:  you scrolled down yet?12:44
blankylol yeah im there12:44
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z3r0xhi @ all12:44
lightbrightblanky: do you  universe and multiverse repositories enabled?12:44
z3r0xhow can I install aircrack 2.4?12:45
lightbrightblanky: ?12:45
blankyyeah12:45
blankyI have them enabled12:45
lightbrightblanky:  not load Synaptic12:45
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lightbrightblanky:  now load Synaptic12:45
blankyokay12:45
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AvenHi12:45
blankydone12:45
Avenhow can I copy files/folders to a CD?12:45
jasonjdpany body know why xince might not play mp3s (and the sound part of an avi...) im getting this error12:45
jasonjdpxine engine failed to start.12:45
jasonjdpNo demuxer found - stream format not recognised12:45
lightbrightblanky: now Libraries (multiverse) > gstreamer0.8-plugins-multivers12:45
jasonjdp*xine12:45
lightbrightblanky: follow all the list and install them ALL12:46
erUSULKartagis, i'm afraid i can not help you further :( i'm stuck.12:46
lightbrightblanky: Libraries (universe) > gstreamer0.8-plugins  and Libraries (universe) > gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg  etc etc12:46
lightbrightblanky:  understand?12:46
somerville32nollijd: Can I pm you?12:46
blankywiat, waht? So I click install the gstreamer0.8-plugins-multivers12:46
blankyand that will install other stuff12:46
blankyyeah I get it12:47
Avenhelp!12:47
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lightbrightblanky: are you on that website or not?12:47
Avenhow can I copy files/folders to a CD?12:47
blankyit's downloading/installing12:47
sinizzlAven:12:47
blankyyes I am lightbright12:47
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lightbrightblanky: follow all the list and install them ALL12:47
sinizzlwith a cdburn application maybe...12:47
lightbrightblanky: after you have done all of them message me12:47
nollidjsomerville32: sure, let me set the umode...12:47
jasonjdpnero linux ftw!12:47
lightbrightblanky: ok? :)12:47
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Avenwhen I click on "Make link" in the CD/DVD drive creater... it says "Error "Unsupported operation" while creating a link to "burn:///aven""12:47
blankyokay :)12:47
Avensinizzl: like?12:47
Avenname one...12:47
sinizzlAven: use nautilus.12:47
lightbrightblanky: last one on list is GNOME Desktop Enviroment (universe) > totem-xine, when you done that too, message me12:47
Avenah ok12:47
lightbrightblanky: ok :)12:48
sinizzlklich "go" and then "cd/dvd creator"12:48
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welphow do i get 32bit firefox?12:48
jasonjdpany body know why xince might not play mp3s (and the sound part of an avi...) im getting this error:12:48
sinizzlwelp12:48
jasonjdpNo demuxer found - stream format not recognised12:48
welpi'm in a 64bit installation12:48
sinizzlapt-get firefox...12:48
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lightbrightblanky: make sure you install all 12 of them12:48
Brunellusjasonjdp:  you don't have the codecs.12:48
sinizzli think you can't run a 32 bit app with a 64 bit colonel ?12:48
Brunellusgo to the restricted-formats wikipage12:48
tritiumkernel?12:48
gnomefreaki dont thing you can but not real sure12:48
welpsinizzl, would that be the 32bit version?12:48
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ScorpioHallo12:49
somerville32nolijd: I sent you a pm12:49
sinizzlwelp i don't know12:49
welpin a 64bit installtion12:49
angelpcan you partition your hard drive using Gparted on a live CD?12:49
gnomefreakthink*12:49
jasonjdpit doesnt come with mp3 codec?12:49
ecobuntuangelp: i think so12:49
tritiumjasonjdp: it's a patented codec12:49
jasonjdp;-)12:49
tritium!tell jasonjdp about restricted12:49
angelpecobuntu: can you explain how to use Gparted to me? ^^; it all looks so confusing12:49
erUSULsinizzl, yes you can12:49
sinizzlerUSUL: okay12:49
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ScorpioWhat may you tell mu about Ubuntu? I am beginner.12:50
ScorpioWhat may you tell mu about Ubuntu? I am beginner.12:50
avb /ctcp avb_ version12:50
Brunellusjasonjdp:  freely distributing the mp3 codec is illegal in many jurisdictions;  canonical/ubuntu can't be liable for that12:50
tritiumScorpio: stop repeating please12:50
lightbrightblanky: you using modem or cable?12:50
sinizzlScorpio: first thing is to write a sentence only ONCE12:50
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ScorpioOk12:50
lightbrightBrunellus: hehe12:50
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Avensinizzl: nautilus just opens my /home/aven directory12:50
jasonjdprgr rgr, like libdvdcss... ;-)12:50
sinizzlAven:12:50
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Scorpio I am from Russia12:50
ecobuntuangelp: have you clicked on the gparted GUI?12:50
psycodei'm having a weird problem. my gnome can't display png images, any png image isn't displayed... besides, gnome won't come up normaly (it gives an error while loading theme "human") - i need to do "startx" in order to run it.... any idea how can i fix this, or reinstall the needed packages?12:50
sinizzlapt-get graveman12:50
Avenyeah?12:50
ecobuntuangelp: and what exactly are you trying to do :)12:50
sinizzlerr apt-get install graveman12:50
Brunellusso it's not in the regular distro.  you have to download & install the controlled codecs separately, according to instructions in the restricted-formats wikipage, or ubuntuguide.12:50
lightbrightScorpio: thats not your fault im sure :)12:51
sinizzlnice gtk tool12:51
blankylightbright: DSL12:51
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lightbrightblanky: did you install all 12 yet then?12:51
blankyit's installing12:51
blankydownloading12:51
erUSULAven, Places --> Cd burner12:51
lightbrightblanky: should be fast on DSL12:51
blankyyeah12:51
Brunellusand now that everybody seems to be paying attention:  how on earth do I get the bug-report app to use my SMTP server, so I can actually *report* a bug?12:51
gnomefreakunless you are like me and have dsl light :(12:51
Avendon't see any 'cd burner'12:51
SEJeffsweet! They finally put it in gnome: http://ptlo.blogspot.com/2005/11/missing-piece.html12:51
angelpecobuntu: yes and i'm trying ot make a new partition so that i can actually install ubuntu rather than using the liveCD12:51
Scorpio o, thanks12:52
Brunellusangelp:  the ubuntu installer has a partitioner in it12:52
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Scorpio :)12:52
blankylightbright: some apps I already had installed12:52
Brunellusangelp:  just be careful with it.12:52
ecobuntuangelp: are you trying to shrink a partition or create a completely new one?12:52
angelpecobuntu: i think i'll need to shrink the main partition first.12:52
ecobuntuangelp: ok click on that partition12:52
lightbrightblanky: dont worry just make sure you dont miss any12:52
erUSULAven, in a nautilus window under Places menu12:52
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lightbrightblanky: finished?12:52
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ScreaminIkehey12:53
blankylightbright: yeah im done12:53
ScreaminIkei neet some help12:53
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Brunellusnobody knows how to use the bugr-porter?12:53
dylan_does anybody here have a 52x cd burner that actually burns at 52x on ubuntu?  ive been having probelsm12:53
blankylightbright: gst-register-0.8?12:53
ScreaminIkei have a shitty no-name digital camera12:53
Brunellusdylan_:  have you enabled DMA yet?12:53
lightbrightblanky: finished doenloading?12:53
dylan_Brunellus, thats the thing...i would like to see your hdparm.conf file12:53
ScreaminIkecan i mount it as a filesystem?12:53
ajuliusubuntu is still buggy12:53
Avengraveman rocks! thanks12:53
ScreaminIkethe device manager knows it's there12:53
blankyit's done installing, should I do gst-register-0.8 now?12:54
angelpecobuntu ok12:54
lightbrightblanky: type sudo gst-register-0.812:54
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blankyokay12:54
tritiumajulius: all distros have bugs.12:54
lightbrightblanky: done?12:54
gnomefreakwho was it asking about valknut yesterday?12:54
lightbrightblanky: type gst-register-0.812:54
blankyit's done12:54
tritiumand all distros always will have bugs12:54
ajuliustritium:  when i try to do something i get failed or app crashes, etc...12:54
ecobuntuangelp: so now you want to right click (maybe) or click the GParted term12:54
blankylightbright, done12:54
Scorpio help me please12:54
lightbrightblanky: now, load https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:54
bockman_i have a package with "unmet depenancies" how do i not install it, because whenever i want to install a different package, it complains about the old one?12:54
ajuliustritium:  XP pro does a better job with bugs :(12:54
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angelpecobuntu: gparted term?12:54
lightbrightblanky:  tell me when you there12:54
Scorpio anybody12:54
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ecobuntuangelp: gparted menu at the top maybe?12:54
ScreaminIkehello?12:54
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ajuliustritium:  hopefully ubuntu will get better next one12:54
tritiumajulius: your problem sounds beyond the OS.  perhaps hardware problems...12:55
ecobuntuangelp: i've never used gparted...hold on i'll install it and walk you through it12:55
ajuliustritium its not hardware............ works fine in xp pro12:55
lightbrightblanky: now. open another browser windows12:55
ajuliusits all software12:55
ecobuntuokm12:55
blankylightbright, im there12:55
misfit_toyScreaminIke, yeah?12:55
lightbrightblanky:  and type: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb12:55
tritiumajulius: but it might not be supported well in linux12:55
ajuliustritium thats possible12:55
lightbrightblanky: tell me when its finished downloading12:55
erUSULbockman_, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package>12:56
blankyit's downloading12:56
ajuliustritum:  Well i have a dell dimension 8300, with radeon video card, nothing out of the ordinary12:56
dylan_why doesnt ubuntu have a root account?12:56
lightbrightblanky: download it to your Desktop12:56
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blankyso I have that downloading and restrictedformats open12:56
blankyshould I install it after it's done installing?12:56
ecobuntuangelp: ok if you right click the partition you want to remove you should be able to resize it12:56
lightbrightblanky:  tell me when you there12:56
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lightbrightblanky:  tell me when its finished12:56
tritiumajulius: but your experience is far out of the ordinary...very atypical12:56
ajuliustritum:  its an intel chipset, shouldnt any issues12:56
gnomefreakdylan_,  sudo is like root in a sick twisted sorta way12:56
gnomefreak:)12:56
ecobuntuangelp: or you might need to unmount it first to resize it12:56
blankylightbright: I already have w32codecs installed though12:56
lightbrightblanky: where is it downloading too>12:56
ajuliustritium:  I doubt it....... i have multiple machines, and with linux its the same thing with all12:56
blankyI didnt know that's what I was downloading12:56
lightbrightblanky: where is it downloading too?12:56
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dylan_gnomefreak, does it make ubuntu more secure because then there is no root account to nuke?12:56
blankydesktop12:56
devintanybody know if selinux will be integrated to ubuntu like fedora does?12:56
tritiumajulius: nobody is reporting major issues like those you're having12:56
gnomefreaksudo=better than root to me12:56
Scorpio join to chat for help me, please12:57
lightbrightblanky: you already did:  sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb   ?12:57
blankyno but lightbright: I already had it installed from like, last month12:57
ajuliustritium:  I didnt say they were MAJOR12:57
blankyyeah12:57
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tdnI have a computer with Debian installed. Now is it possible for me to take a sources.list from Ubuntu and do an apt-get dist-upgrade and then get Ubuntu?12:57
blankylightbright: yeah12:57
lightbrightblanky: ok12:57
angelpecobuntu: I don't think i need to unmount it, whatever that is. it's asking me to resize it right now12:57
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lightbrightblanky: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh12:57
ecobuntuangelp: ok then just resize it if you don't need to unmount first :)12:57
lightbrightblanky: done that too?12:57
gnomefreakdylan_,  having to type sudo before a command is very very safe you cant typo anything and lose something yyou need12:57
ajuliusanyways12:57
ajuliusi reported the bugs so hopefully its fixed with the next release12:57
Brunellusdylan_:  have you sorted yourself out?12:57
erUSULtdn, no12:57
LennHello everybody ;)12:57
gnomefreakwith root once i type su and password i can typo and lose something important :)12:57
lightbrightblanky: did you install all 12 files from the website?12:57
angelpecobuntu: what should i resize it to? i have ~57 gig, 23 taken up, windows XP installed.12:58
tritiumajulius: which bug #?12:58
blankythat installs libdvdcss right? yeah I just isntalled it before you started helping me12:58
blankylightbright: yeah12:58
ajuliustritium i dont recall offhand12:58
dylan_Brunellus, sorta12:58
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Brunellusdylan_, explain?12:58
lightbrightblanky: did you install all 12 files from the website?  inclusing the last xine one?12:58
jasonjdphmm, ive got xmss and it plays mp3s... but gxine doesnt... ;-(12:58
ecobuntuangelp: hmm...that is a good question...what are you hoping to do with Ubuntu?12:58
tritiumajulius: since other's aren't experiencing the problem, it's likely unique to your system12:58
ajuliustritium:  Ubuntu is really a work in development tho, always improvements after each release12:58
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Scorpio very sad, but i really hope leave from Windows12:58
lightbrightblanky: did you cghose GNOME Desktop Enviroment (universe) > totem-xine  ?12:58
angelpecobuntu: not much. XD i mostly just surf the internet and chat with people.12:58
blankylightbright: yes I already installed all 12 files12:58
ecobuntuangelp: i have 3 partitions on my computer with 20gb.  I have 6 or so to Windows, Breezy, and Dapper12:58
blankyI already had that installed lightbright, since I installed ubuntu12:59
tritiumajulius: that's not the philosophy for stable releases12:59
lightbrightajulius: really?12:59
geek_anyone use Fluxbox?12:59
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ecobuntuangelp: well i would recommend just 10gb you can always change it later12:59
lightbrightblanky: now load Totem and it will run your DVD12:59
tritiumlightbright: no, the stable releases are better polished than he lets on12:59
angelpok12:59
tdnerUSUL, ok. Is there any way to do a thing like that? To "upgrade" from Debian to Ubuntu?12:59
angelpecobuntu: so i just resize it to whatever i want, then . . . click on "unallocated" and make a new partition?12:59
ecobuntuangelp: 10 is a nice number cause the OS is about 2gb and you have 8gb to play with12:59
lightbrightblanky:  IF you indeed didnt skip anything becayse you thought it was already installed, it will now work12:59
Brunellusdylan_:  you're "losing" the opportunity to do a lot of hand configuration.01:00
lightbrightblanky:  but if you skipped anything I said because you assumed it was already on system it wont work :)01:00
dylan_Brunellus, but im not losing out on not learning linux?01:00
blankyyeah it's already installed bud, I checked in synaptic as well01:00
Brunellusversus gentoo, you are also "losing" the joy of waiting days for stuff to compile01:00
blankyno no, I made sure bud01:00
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nollidjis there any advice people have on getting an external usb wlan device to work?  i'm just plugging through what google gives me, but it's trying because i don't know if ndiswrapper will work or if i should try something else01:00
ecobuntuangelp: yup i believe so01:00
lightbrighttritium: yeah thats what I thought too01:00
GreedyBkinda funny the largest channels are Ubuntu and Debian01:00
Brunellusdylan_:  linux is really linux.  how much you learn depends on you, rather than your distribution, really01:00
blankylightbright: so I run totem now right?01:00
angelpecobuntu thx. is it going to take al ong time; should ic lose my other programs?01:00
ecobuntuangelp: or you could just resize it and leavethat extra space for a ubuntu installation and set up the partition then01:00
dylan_Brunellus, how is that?01:00
lightbrightblanky: because it will delete Totem and install xine-totem01:00
erUSULtdn, i do not think so :(.01:00
tritiumGreedyB: why?01:00
ecobuntuangelp: probably best to...how long will it take?01:00
Brunellusyou can learn as much or as little as you want.  all the same tools are available on ubuntu...01:00
lightbrightblanky: did you notice it said removing Totem?01:01
blankyer, when I run xine-totem from command line it doesnt work01:01
Brunellusbut ubuntu does make a lot of tasks less time-consuming, like package management01:01
lightbrightblanky:  yeah, IF you indeed didnt skip anything becayse you thought it was already installed, it will now work01:01
GreedyBcause they are similar01:01
angelpecobuntu: yeah, to resize the first one and then make the new one, how long will that take01:01
lightbrightblanky: co menu01:01
Brunellusapt automatically resolves dependencies, which is a huge timesaver.01:01
ecobuntuGreedyB: there the two best distributions that's why :)01:01
dylan_Brunellus, yes, that is if the debian servers dont crash and lose all their dataq01:01
geek_just got Fluxbox up and running the other day..i love it01:01
blankyyeah I know01:01
lightbrightblanky: sound/video/totem01:01
geek_soo customizable..its like too much freedom01:01
Brunellusdylan_ I'm not expecting the world to end01:01
ecobuntuangelp: i don't know, it shouldn't take too long01:01
lightbrightblanky: soundvideo/totem music player01:01
angelpecobuntu, ok; thanks for helping :D01:01
Brunellusand even if they did, you'd still have all the GNU tools to build stuff yourself01:01
Brunellusit would just take time01:02
lightbrightblanky: dont tell me you cant even load Totem :P01:02
blankybut you said it'd be removed, also, in synaptic the totem dummy package is instlaled, but it's a dummy package so Im guessing it's not actual totem, so yeah totem-xine is installed01:02
dylan_Brunellus, lol01:02
blankylightbright: yeah I know how to01:02
ecobuntuno problem...any time you have a question this is the place to come :)01:02
lightbrightblanky: are you new to computers?01:02
blankyno dude, I'm a programmer, I just didnt get this codec thing01:02
lightbrightblanky: why cant you then even load totem from menu? :)01:02
geek_what languages you program in?01:02
blankylightbright: I was talking about something else, nevermind01:02
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tdnerUSUL, Ok. Why not? I mean, what would go wrong if I tried it?01:02
Stormx2blanky: Programmer? http://pastebin.ca/29396 <-- It outputs nothing :'(01:02
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lightbrightgeek_: blank language ;)01:03
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lightbrightblanky: did you load totem yet?01:03
Corin_777hey01:03
blankylol01:03
Brunellusdylan_:  trust me.  I'm a relative newbie on linux (running it only for about 11 months) and I have learnt a *lot* on ubuntu01:03
Corin_777how easy is it to create a customised ubuntu install cd?01:03
Xanthoshey all01:03
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geek_C++ is cool..but i wanna start learning some python i hear its pretty dope01:03
Brunellusubuntu enables my learning.01:03
dylan_Brunellus, you could be learning a LOT more by using Slackware01:03
lightbrightblanky: load totem, chose movie and then play CD01:03
Stormx2Brunellus: I've been running it for 3 weeks and I learnt a lot hehe ;-)01:03
blankyThe source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?01:03
blankylook dude, I think libdvdcss never got registered01:03
blankyas a codec01:03
lightbrightblanky:  did it play your DVD?01:03
blanky(look above for error)01:04
lightbrightblanky: rofl01:04
blankydont worry I'll figure it out, thanks01:04
erUSULtdn, the packages are not the same on both distros you can end up with an unusable system. in warty it was possible iirci but not in breezy01:04
Brunellusdylan_: yes, but I would also have a less useable system and a lot more headaches.  I actually *use* my computer for daily life and other things.  Linux isn't an end-in-itself all the time.01:04
blankybut yeah, I'm still sure I must register libdvdcss somehow01:04
jasonjdphmm, ive got xmss and it plays mp3s... but gxine doesnt... ;-( they dont share codecs?01:04
lightbrightblanky: I knew you would skip something :)  how did I know?  because a know-it-all attidude skips steps :)01:04
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blankygst-register-0.8 only registered gstreamer codecs01:04
lightbrightblanky: i cant help a person who doesnt listen :)01:04
Stormx2jasonjdp: use bmp not xmms ;-)01:04
blankylightbright: I'm not a know-it-all lol, it's just that synaptic already said somet stuff were already intalled, so I didnt in stall them01:05
pztakhow long do you suppose it would take gparted to resize and create a new partition on a 200gb drive? it has been running now for a good 30 mins, and still doesnt show 'any progress' in the details section... will it just show once its done?01:05
blankylightbright: I was listening01:05
lightbrightblanky:  if you had have listened it would be working now P)  oh well your choise01:05
lightbrightbrb food time01:05
tdnerUSUL, hmm.... But would'nt it be possible to put warty sources in my sources.list, "upgrade" to Ubuntu warty, then put breezy sources in the sources.list and upgrade to Ubuntu breezy?01:05
Corin_777how easy is it to create a customised ubuntu install cd?01:05
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dylan_Brunellus, Slackware is quite usable01:06
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dylan_Brunellus, and EXTREMELY stable and fast01:06
jasonjdpwell, i really wanna watch my xvid movies... but totem and gxine are messing up on the sound.... and gxine wont play mp3s for me while xmss will...01:06
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angelpecobuntu, nothing happened. :S it said it was resizing it, but then when it was done it was the same size...01:06
Sarvellcan anyone tell me how to add a driver from tar01:06
lightbrightblanky lightbright: I'm not a know-it-all lol, it's just that synaptic already said somet stuff were already intalled, so I didnt in stall them <-- EXACTLY :)  as I told you, I KNEW you would skip some steps because you ASSUME!  if you knew it needs to install again for reasons I wont explain, because you dont listen01:06
lightbrightnow brb, enjyoing food :)01:06
geek_totem sucks01:07
erUSULtdn, is a long and painfull way and as i said i'm not sure if it's possible. why not reinstall?01:07
Brunellusdylan_: I'm not knocking slackware.  my favorite livecd distro is actually SLAX, which is slackware based.  I just find that ubuntu/debian suit me better.01:07
blankylightbright: so you wanted me to uninstall them and then install them again? you never said that!01:07
tdnerUSUL, I do not have a CD-set.01:07
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dylan_Brunellus, understandable....given that you know slackware a bit, can you help me find the msttcorefonts package?01:07
dylan_in a tgz?01:07
WondersaurusI'm having a problem setting up my wireless connection with Ubuntu.  Currently, my wireless card is not connecting to my router.01:07
ecobuntuangelp: strange01:07
tdnDoes Ubuntu have a net-install image. Debian got one.01:07
WondersaurusCould someone tell me how to handel that?01:07
WondersaurusHandle, I mean.01:08
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BrunellusI don't know jack about slackware packages, dylan_.  go ask them at #slackware and expect to get your ass kicked01:08
angelpecobuntu, so, what should i do :/01:08
fevoldj2hi01:08
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erUSULtdn, download an iso and burn it01:08
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fevoldj2What are some good media players that pla wma and mp3?01:08
Brunellusslack users are generally less friendly than ubuntu users, I find.01:08
ecobuntuangelp: is there a qtparted on the disk?01:08
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blankywhatever, I never blamed anything on you yet you get all pissed at me for not installing something that was already installed01:08
angelpecobuntu, i don't konw what that is.01:08
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ecobuntuangelp: similar program.  go to terminal and type qtparted01:08
CyberSlugHas anyone here got Xorg 6.8.2 Composite extension working smoothly in Ubuntu?01:09
angelpecobuntu k01:09
ecobuntuangelp: or you could try to resize it again.01:09
blankyI even asked you, 'it's already installed', and you're like, 'okay'01:09
Scorpiohey01:09
erUSULfevoldj2, xine for wma and rhythmbox or bmp for mp301:09
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tdnerUSUL, hmm... Yeah... I would like to do that... But my net is really slow.01:09
Corin_777how easy is it to create a customised ubuntu install cd?01:09
toresbehey guys01:09
fevoldj2ok01:09
lightbrightblanky: why would I care? :)  nobody has power to upset me. I just simply tried to help YOU, and if it doesnt work because you cant follow instructions, then that doesnt upset me :)01:10
blankyCorin_777: I dont know, but I'd really like to create my own LiveCD01:10
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blankylightbright: you sure seem to show it01:10
Corin_777blanky, me too01:10
Corin_777:)01:10
toresbeHmm, I'm having a fairly frustrating problem with my webserver. I'm using PHP, and firefox wants to save all PHP files instead of opening them.01:10
blanky:)01:10
angelpecobuntu: it says, 'command not found'.01:10
blankylightbright: I dont know why you have to rub it in, it's my 'mistake', like you say, you dont have to get all pissed01:10
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blankyI just simply followed common sense01:10
ecobuntuangelp: ok01:10
lightbrightblanky: dont flatter yourself, you dont have power or ability to upset me :)  Im a proactive person who controls my own happiness, and people dont have power over me to control my mood :)01:10
CyberSlugtoresbe: Has apache got the php server extension installed?01:10
ecobuntuangelp: try gparted again i guess01:11
toresbeI've been told that parsed PHP files should be MIME type text/html, but it's application/x-httpd-php01:11
angelpok01:11
toresbeCyberSlug: yeah01:11
blankylightbright: okay, whatever01:11
toresbelibapache2-mod-php01:11
CyberSlugtoresbe: And loaded?01:11
toresbe...401:11
erUSULtdn, if you make a net install you will be waiting forever too :(. i have 56 kbps modem too but persuade a friend of mine to dl the iso01:11
toresbeCyberSlug: well, presumably...01:11
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lightbrightblanky: you see in others what you see in yourself :)  you have upset yourself so you see in others what you see in YOU :)01:11
lightbrightblanky welcome to my exclusive ignore :)01:11
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Scorpio hey, are you hear me?01:11
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blankylightbright: I know how you're feeling right now, I've felt it before. You think you've wasted your time trying to help me, and before you began helping me you had the doubt that you thought I wouldnt follow directions, but I promise I did01:11
lightbrightbrb01:11
Sarvellanybody know how to install driver from tar.gz?01:11
CyberSlugtoresbe: Hmmm.... Can you send me your Httpd.conf?01:11
angelpecobuntu, it still didn't work. :-/01:12
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toresbeCyberSlug: with pleasure... hang on01:12
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ecobuntuangelp: you should go here http://gparted.sourceforge.net/01:12
CyberSlugAnyone managed to get the xorg Composite extension working smoothly in ubuntu?01:12
tdnerUSUL, ok.01:12
ecobuntuangelp: maybe there is a how-to on that site that will be more insightful than me01:12
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blankylightbright: I'm not upset that it doesn't work, I like computers, eventually I'll find out how to get it to01:12
lightbrightblanky: ok np :)01:12
angelpecobuntu ok thank you01:12
tdnerUSUL, but *does* Ubuntu have a net install image?01:12
ecobuntuno problem...i am sorry i could be of help01:12
lightbrightblanky: start from scratch and try again :)01:12
toresbeCyberSlug: http://toresbe.homelinux.org/httpd.txt01:13
blankyI cant just start over from step 1? I remember the steps01:13
toresbeCyberSlug: pardon, http://toresbe.homelinux.org:180/httpd.txt01:13
erUSULtdn, no afaik01:13
CyberSlugtoresbe: looking01:13
tdnerUSUL, ok.01:13
lightbrightblanky: simply follow this http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html01:13
toresbeCyberSlug: uh, and I'm an idiot, hang on01:13
geek_blanky: what are you tryin to do?01:13
angelpecobuntu, hey, maybe i should unmount it?01:13
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angelpecobuntu, how do you unmount a partition?01:13
blankyget DVD's menus to render01:13
fevoldj2what plugins do I need to get for mp3? None of my music apps work because they need plugins..01:13
blanky*work01:13
ecobuntuangelp: there should be an unmount command when you right click01:13
fevoldj2It doesn't even specify what they're called01:14
toresbeCyberSlug: pardon, http://toresbe.homelinux.org:180/httpd - that's the directory01:14
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CyberSlugOk... lol01:14
lightbrightblanky: i followed the steps on that website exacrly, and all I can tell you is that DVD playes for me01:14
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Corin_777blanky, http://librenix.com/?inode=360801:14
angelpecobuntu, it's disabled. :-/01:14
somerville32lo01:14
lightbrightblanky: but I followed every single step to the letter01:14
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lightbrightblanky:  thats all I can tell you :)01:14
somerville32Hello01:14
somerville32I'm back01:14
lightbrightsomerville32: wb :)01:14
ShamusHas anyone gotten Edubuntu Thin Client working?01:15
geek_blanky: just give it time man..youll get it eventually01:15
CyberSlugtoresbe, Try simply uncommention : #AddType application/x-httpd-php .php01:15
somerville32:)01:15
geek_i usually do01:15
ecobuntuangelp: are you click the fat32 partition or is it a ntfs partition?01:15
blankyCorin_777: thanks dude!01:15
tdnerUSUL, Ok. I'm downloading the image now. What program should I use to burn it with? (I only have console)01:15
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blankygeek_: yeah I hope so, thanks01:15
angelpecobuntu, im definitely clicking the ntfs partition01:15
Corin_777blanky, np, looks a weird site though...01:15
toresbeCyberSlug: if you look at http://toresbe.homelinux.org:180/httpd/mods-enabled/php4.conf it's uncommented there01:16
geek_tdn..what image are you downloading?01:16
geek_a .iso image?01:16
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toresbeCyberSlug: also doesn't work with apache 1.301:16
nicolas_hello01:16
CyberSlugtoresbe: Uncomment it in httpd.conf anyhow01:16
Corin_777blanky, or http://www.linux-live.org/01:16
ecobuntuangelp: highlight that partition then click the resize button at the top01:16
nicolas_i need some help01:16
erUSULfevoldj2, gstreamer0.8-plugins01:17
erUSUL  gstreamer0.8-plugins01:17
erUSUL-multiverse01:17
angelpecobuntu, the ntfs one?01:17
toresbeCyberSlug: but.. that's a placeholder page... look at it01:17
lightbrightblanky: be patient and be happy and always follow instructions to the letter, without missing a step :)  and you wll be just fine ;)01:17
ecobuntuangelp: yes01:17
erUSULtdn, cdrecord01:17
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angelpecobuntu thats what ive been doing :/01:17
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ecobuntuangelp: that's the one you want to resize01:17
ecobuntuangelp: what do you have listed?01:17
tdngeek_, The one in the url in this file http:///lhk.dk/u.txt (I do not have a clip board to paste the url, so it is in this file)01:17
CyberSlugtoresbe: Ok... Double checking01:17
jack|assIs there a way i can get GLX v2.0 for ubuntu breezy?01:17
blankylightbright: okay :)01:17
tdnerUSUL, ok.01:17
nicolas_I have a 5.1 sound card... ubuntu 5.04... and there are only 2 speakers playing01:17
lightbrightblanky: :)01:17
lightbrightblanky: have you tried vlc?01:17
Corin_777if i have apache2 on a linux box, and a domain, how can i get the domain to work properly (i.e. with nameservers), not just forwarding?01:17
erUSULfevoldj2,  gstreamer0.8-plugins01:17
erUSUL-multiverse i mean01:17
dr_willisnicolas_,  ya got a 5.1 sound source?01:17
lightbrightblanky: tried playing your DVD with vlc?01:18
nicolas_yeah01:18
blankyvlc doesnt even say anything lol01:18
angelpecobuntu like, which partitions are listed?01:18
blankyjust like, stands there01:18
blanky*points and laughs at vlc*01:18
dr_willisnicolas_,  what is it? id never was able to find one to even test. :P01:18
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lightbrightblanky: ok :)  tried kaffeine? :)01:18
ecobuntuyes01:18
blankyhey, you know in vlc01:18
tdngeek_, is that ok?01:18
blankyhow you put file > open disc01:18
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blankyit asks for an MRL01:18
blankywth is that01:19
blankydvd://media/cdrom0 would be it?01:19
lightbrightblanky: forget vlc then for now, have you tried kaffeine?01:19
nicolas_anyone know how to configure a 5.1 soundcard ?01:19
blankyvlc might work, I'm probably just doing it wrong01:19
blankyI dont think I have kaffeine, let me install it01:19
DiGiT79hi! just a short question: reading the wiki there is shown that "xawtv" shall be available through apt... if i try "apt-get install xawtv" the program is not there....01:19
lightbrightblanky: forget vlc for now :)01:19
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lightbrightblanky: install Kaffeine01:19
blankyokay, still would like to know what an MRL is but w/e01:19
dr_willisvlc dvd://01:19
blankyyeah i instlaled it01:19
dr_willisworks for me.01:19
lightbrightblanky: and then open kaffine and open DVD and tell me what message you get01:20
devintis there a gnome cdr tool that will allow me to burn iso images to a blank cd?01:20
rabeldable!gnomebaker01:20
ubotuI don't know, rabeldable01:20
erUSUL!tell DiGiT79 about repos01:20
ecobuntuangelp: how big is your harddrive?01:20
rabeldable!cdr01:20
uboturabeldable: Did you get hit by a windmill?01:20
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allorderI try to install something and i got this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables01:20
allorder.  someone can help ?01:20
erUSULdevint, gnomebaker01:20
blankylightbright: in the installation check, I got warnings/errors for the following:01:21
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blankyhey lightbright, are you registered? can I just pm you?01:21
ecobuntuangelp: apparently it can't resize ntfs01:21
devintok01:21
lightbrightblanky: yes01:21
ecobuntui just found that on the internet01:21
Madpilotdevint: you can burn ISOs in Nautilus (the file manager) - works well01:21
devintdoes anybody know that cdrecord doesn't work in breezy?01:21
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lightbrightdevint: it works well01:21
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lightbrightblanky: you cant install kaffeine?01:21
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angelpecobuntu oh01:21
allorderI try to install something and i got this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables. any idea ?01:22
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erUSULallorder, install build-essential01:22
ecobuntuangelp: can you run synaptic and install a package01:22
allorderok thx01:22
blankyI installed it lightbright, but when you first run it, it gives you this 'check' thing01:22
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angelpecobuntu, sure, if you tell me what that is and how i do it. :)01:22
ecobuntuangelp: if you can install this package ntfsprogs01:22
lightbrightblanky: load Kaffine from menu01:22
blankyI did, hey lightbright did you get my private message?01:22
ecobuntuangelp: go to the terminal01:22
lightbrightyeah01:22
ecobuntuangelp: type:  sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs01:22
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DiGiT79erUSUL, thnx!01:23
angelpok01:23
devintis there a gnome shredder program? like a graphical interface to the coreutils 'shred' program or the 'wipe' program?01:23
ecobuntuangelp: that worked?01:23
angelpecobuntu it didn't do anything :/01:23
ecobuntuangelp: at all?01:23
erUSULDiGiT79, no problem01:23
LennAnyone has an idea of what means the status 98 when starting cupds ? I got : "Child exited with status 98!" and it doesn't start...01:24
ecobuntuangelp: not even an error?01:24
angelpecobuntu nope.... does terminal = command line?01:24
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ecobuntuyup01:24
angelpyeah then01:24
erUSULLenn, google for the error message01:24
pztakdoes anyone know if it is possible to automatically execute a certain program when an ipod shuffle is plugged in (it automatically mounts to /media/ipod, so i assume there is some event handler already running...)01:24
ecobuntuangelp: go to system -> administration -> synaptic01:24
devintanybody know?01:24
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ecobuntuangelp: click 'searc' type ntfsprogs01:25
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angelp...oh.01:25
angelpecobuntu, someone in another channel told me to open it from the command line, and i got this:01:25
angelpRoot privileges are required for running GParted01:25
angelpSince GParted can be a weapon of mass destruction only root may run it.01:25
ecobuntuangelp: ok...type sudo gparted (at a terminal)01:26
naliothangelp: type in your terminal, "sudo gparted" and be careful what you do with it01:26
ecobuntuangelp: but i dont' think it will work01:26
lightbrightangelp: ;)01:26
erUSULangelp, sudo gparted01:26
LennerUSUL : I'm trying on google, but the only match I found for the moment was people getting no answer to their problem, or people that solved their problem without knowing how01:26
pztakheh, i have gparted running right now, it better work01:26
ecobuntui don't think gparted will resize ntfs only vfat01:26
ecobuntuntfsresize will though01:26
Stormx2Glade? What can that do in terms of GUI?01:27
pztakecobuntu, do you know how long it usually takes it to resize? just ballpark figure.. ? couple of hrs?01:27
pztakit has been running for quite some time now01:27
ecobuntupztak: should take long i would imagine01:27
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pztakand i wish it was more verbose, i have no idea what's going on..01:27
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Lennanother symptom is that I get "connection refused" when I try to open the web interface01:27
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tryingsomethinganyone happen to have a linksys wrt54gs running 3rd party firmware?01:28
ecobuntupztak: run it from terminal and then you can see verbosity01:28
u-sun_hello - i tried to upgrade to breezy, but somehow the upgrade... didn't complete01:28
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u-sun_so now i get raw blank screen01:28
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u-sun_with login and password01:28
WondersaurusI'm asking again, could someone help me with this?  My wireless card is functional, but is not connecting to my router.  Are there any fixes for this that I am overlooking?01:28
u-sun_it doesn't go anywhere01:28
u-sun_how do i perform a recovery?01:29
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tryingsomethingdo you have any encryption on?01:29
erUSULu-sun, run again sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:29
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u-sun_on the blank screen?01:29
pztakecobuntu, i don't suppose i should stop it now though, since it's already running..01:29
WondersaurusNo encryption.01:29
tryingsomethingyou have it set for dhcp?01:29
u-sun_its a black screen01:29
WondersaurusYep.01:29
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tryingsomethingwhat does your ip say for your wlan0?01:29
tryingsomethingifconfig01:29
gnomefreakis there a resume program or app for ubuntu?01:30
ecobuntupztak: no i would advise against that :)01:30
somerville32gnomefreak: resume program?01:30
devintdoes anybody think ubuntu will support reiser4 one of these days?01:30
gnomefreakyes i cant find resume templets is Oo01:30
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devintif ubuntu supported reiser4 it would be god01:30
somerville32gnomefreak: I01:30
somerville32'm not sure01:30
Wondersaurusiwconfig reports that the MAC address of the router is 00:00:00:00:00:00.  iwconfig says the IP address is...01:31
WondersaurusI can't tell.01:31
gnomefreakok ty somerville3201:31
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tryingsomethingwell it shouldnt matter if its wlan0 or eth001:31
tryingsomethingas long as its refering to the right device01:31
tryingsomethingdoes it have an ip ?01:31
WondersaurusNone listed.01:31
WondersaurusCertain of it.01:31
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circa1974QUESTION: my windows are grouping in the taskbar.  does anyone know how to make that stop?01:31
devintWondersaurus: what's your card?01:31
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erUSULu-sun, you've said that it has a login and password get to the shell and continue with the upgrade01:32
WondersaurusBroadcom.01:32
sunsunerUSUL, hi, i upgraded dist-upgrade, but i get Unmet dependencies, try using -f01:32
sunsunerUSUL, what now!01:32
WondersaurusI've gotten it to be recognized and all, and to work on a wired connection with ndiswrapper but not the wired.01:32
devintis it on the right channel? access mode (i.e. Managed)? speed (i.e. 11M)?01:32
WondersaurusWireless.  Bleh.01:32
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WondersaurusIt's managed right.01:33
HostileOk something is using my soundcard therefor I can't listen to music, how do I tell what is using it?01:33
devintyou can try manually entering the mac address with `iwconfig wlan0 ap ...`01:33
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WondersaurusIt's on Mode:Managed, speed is 54 mb/s and where do I check channel?01:33
sunsunerUSUK, well i did the dist-upgrade, but its not going anywhere01:33
WondersaurusI know it's supposed to be six.01:34
lightbrightblanky: yiu there?01:34
tryingsomethingwhat brand is the router?01:34
sunsunerUSUL, well i did the dist-upgrade but its not going anywher01:34
WondersaurusLinksys/01:34
tryingsomethingshould be 6 i think01:34
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WondersaurusI can check the router's settings.01:34
tryingsomethingwell ok01:34
erUSULsunsun, try with -f 'apt-get -f dist-upgrade'01:34
WondersaurusSays the channel is 6, do I need to check that the computer is looking at the same channel?01:35
angelpwhat is the keyboard shortcut for copy & paste on this????01:35
blankyyeah lightbright01:35
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gnomefreakctrl+c cut and cntl+v paste01:35
lightbrightblanky: you DID ALSO type: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins01:35
lightbrightblanky: didnt you? :)01:35
sunsunerUSUL, cool thks lifesaver01:35
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tryingsomethingum i dunno - i dont have it all in my head at the moment01:36
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sunsunerUSUL, and do i restart afterwards/01:36
WondersaurusFair enough.  Also, not permitted to change the AP.01:37
erUSULsunsun, no problem01:37
sunsunerUSUL - is there more to be done, or is this finished??01:37
angelpgomefreak, is ctrl-c cut or copy?01:37
tryingsomethinghttp://hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Wireless.html01:37
WondersaurusLooked through it.  Didn't find much helpful.01:37
sunsunerUSUL, i got E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)01:37
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tgadoes anyone know of a console calendaring app?01:38
erUSULsunsun, i can not know run apt-get dist-upgrade until evrething is installed correctly then reboot01:38
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erUSULeverything*01:38
erUSULtga, cal01:38
_rednektek_have a question for someone01:38
ecobuntuerUSUL: you should run apt-get upgrade first then apt-get dist-upgrade01:38
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tgaerUSUL, funny01:38
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gnomefreakits copy angelp01:38
angelpoh01:39
Sannetga: or ncal also01:39
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blankylightbright is mean01:39
lightbrightSeveas: hello :)01:40
erUSULecobuntu, why?01:40
ecobuntucause of dependencies01:40
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matsavhalevwoohoo freenx is working !01:40
erUSULecobuntu, can you elaborate? i do not see your point01:40
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Stormx2*sigh* I just met up with someone I last saw 3 years ago. I was on his forums, and Now we're on the ubuntu forums. Small world, eh?01:41
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stvnpaupers01:41
lightbrightStormx2: yeah :)01:41
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sunsunwhat is the command for reboot?01:41
_rednektek_can someone answer a question for me???01:41
b_e_n_zsunsun, reboot01:42
ecobuntubecause of the way packages get installed...apt-get upgrade installs the ones that should be installed first then apt-get dist-upgrade installs the ones that depend on the former01:42
sunsunb_e_n_z01:42
sunsunthis01:42
sunsunthanks01:42
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erUSULecobuntu, i have dist-upgraded from warty to hoary and from there to breezy without problems01:42
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sunsunerUSUL, thks i didnt do the dist-upgrade properly from the interface01:43
erUSULecobuntu, i have never used upgrade i always use dist-upgrade to mantain my system up to date no problems whatsoever01:43
Grevescan anyone help? i followed the wiki for adding repositories, and am getting an error "Couldn't stat source package list"01:43
_rednektek_where do I set the root password in "breezy"01:43
_jasonubotu, tell _rednektek_ about sudo01:43
davfiguedo you really need to set a root password ?01:44
erUSUL!tell _rednektek_ about sudo01:44
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ecobuntuwell to keep it update to date you should just be using upgrade not dist-upgrade...man apt01:44
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lightbrighterUSUL: wouldnt it be easier to install fresh breezy?01:44
erUSULGreves, what ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list says??01:44
matsavhalev_rednektek_ if you really need to sudo passwd root . . . but use sudo for most admin tasks instead with your user password thats how it works in ubuntu01:45
lightbrightecobuntu: yeah true01:45
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Urthmoverhow do I install nagios on breezy? anyone have documentation?01:45
erUSULlightbright, the whole point of apt is to not have to fresh install01:45
matsavhalevhas anyone got XDMCP working in breezy?01:45
Greves-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1772 2005-11-19 19:33 /etc/apt/sources.list01:45
lightbrighterUSUL: upgrade is not to upgrade from versions01:45
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lightbrighterUSUL: if you have a sepereate partion for /home. you can install breezy from CD and still have system as same01:46
newenhi01:46
erUSULecobuntu, dist-upgrade is a cleverer version of upgrade01:46
Urthmoverdoes anyone even know what nagios is?01:46
newenI wonder if someone has noticed that the keyboard switcher doesn't work in gnome01:46
ecobuntuno01:46
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Urthmoverlol01:46
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Urthmoverand I' thought I was a n99b01:47
Urthmoverlol01:47
lightbrighterUSUL: does dist-upgrade replace upgrade totally?01:47
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erUSULlightbright, and in every fresh install i have to reinstall all the apps i have been installing all over again01:47
lightbrighterUSUL: where are all your apps installed to?01:47
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Grevesthere is nothing in this folder01:47
Greveshttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/main/binary-i386/01:47
matsavhaleverUSUL: i think you can use apt-get to update to breezy01:47
davfigueplease, does anybody know a good tutorial for setting up my wireless lan ?01:47
Grevesbut that is where the sources.list file points01:47
lightbrighterUSUL: where are all your apps installed to?  what part of the system and what folder?01:48
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nickrudGreves, there are no backports yet, that's a placeholder for later01:49
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erUSULlightbright, i trying to say that i have more apps installed than the ones that a tipical fresh install would instal01:49
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crimsun(there actually are backports now)01:49
nickrudreally...01:49
crimsunyes, the vlc backport was built earlier today.01:49
dummkaufIm trying to download ubuntu what is the difference between ubuntu-server, breezy, dapper, hoary, etc....01:50
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erUSULlightbright, so if i do every new version a fresh install i have to install again all the apps i have installed before01:50
aruanyone know anything about the Disks Manager program?01:50
misfit_toycrimsun vlc without ugly "old" gtk?01:50
crimsunyes.01:50
misfit_toywahoo01:50
misfit_toyfinally, thanks01:50
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lightbrighterUSUL: so im asking, where does ubuntu install all your apps?  not in your /home?01:50
Seveaslightbright, no01:51
Seveasin your /01:51
erUSULlightbright, no it install files all over the place under /usr01:51
lightbrightSeveas: ah ok!  so I created a seperate partion for /home so if I ever need to fresh install up upgrade!  I guess that was a waste of time then :P01:51
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Seveaslightbright, upgrades don't mean reinstall :)01:52
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lightbrighterUSUL: so could I backup my /usr and keep my /home part and then install fresh Ubunt and copy across ./usr?01:52
monkey-whats happened to java-package? The wiki and docs refer to it, yet I can install it :/01:52
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erUSULecobuntu, i will continue to use dist-upgrade you can use upgrade if you feel is more correct...01:52
arubasicly what I did was use Disks Manager to format one of my drives and set the access path to /home/aru/ogg now when I click enable then go to the ogg folder and try to copy something to it, it tells me I don't have access to it01:52
lightbrightSeveas: you know what I mean?  uld I backup my /usr and keep my /home part and then install fresh Ubunt and copy across /usr to new Ubuntu install and have it running with old config and old apps?01:52
sunsuncrimsun, where do we find the vlc backport01:52
SEJefflightbright: You don't want to copy /usr if you reinstall. Different versions are not guaranteed to keep binary compatibility01:52
erUSULlightbright, no01:52
OrbordeShould I modprobe -r drm before modprobe fglrx ?01:52
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lightbrightSEJeff: ah i see thats too bad01:53
sunsunerUSUL, what is the difference between dist-upgrade and upgrade01:53
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lightbrighterUSUL: so the only solutions is to keep dist-upgrading?01:53
SEJefflightbright: keep /home on a different partition and that will keep most app settings.01:53
jasonjdphow do i find gcc in aptitude to uninstall it? i wanna go to a different version01:53
SEJefflightbright: yes01:53
Sannedummkauf: you might want to read this and the sub-points, should answer most questions: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/01:53
erUSULaru, it is a fat partition?01:53
nickrudcrimsun, where are they hiding01:53
aruapparently I don't have write permissions to that drive, yet I don't know how to set it so I do01:53
jrsimsYO! How's it going? I need some help installing a GTK theme file. How do I install these?01:53
aruit's ext301:53
SEJeffjrsims: Open up the theme manager and drag the file onto it01:54
angelpok, so, apparently i have to upgrade libparted and gparted....how wuold i go about doing that?01:54
erUSULlightbright, to mantain everything almost as you have it? yes01:54
lightbrightSEJeff: I have hda3 as /home. but and if my hda1 crashes or gets wiped, I can reinstall breeze and have system run as before?  Yet I would lose all new apps that I had installed?01:54
nickrudjrsims, open system-preferences-themes, and drag the downloaded theme onto the window01:54
jrsimsOk!01:54
SEJefflightbright: You would lose all additional apps you installed before, yes01:54
SEJefflightbright: But the main system doesn't change much01:54
lightbrightSEJeff: hmm ok thanks01:54
Grevesnickrud, so if i uncheck the backports, i won't be missing out on any package repositories?01:54
LeeJunFanso what exactly does the DVD.iso include? can't be all of universe can it?01:54
lightbrightSEJeff: ok01:54
SEJefflightbright: And it's a simple apt-get or point click in synaptic away01:55
spencerkcan someone help me get jack running? "ALSA lib seq_hw.c:455:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory"01:55
lightbrightSEJeff: I guess I could make a folder and rsync the whole drive to it as  backup :)01:55
aruso I can't change that drive to where I can write to it?01:55
jrsimsSEJeff: ok, it's not your normal GTK theme file. It's a GTK config file.01:55
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SEJeffjrsims: put it as ~/.gtkrc01:55
nickrudGreves, none of the important ones; backports used to be kinda flaky sometimes, maybe this iteration will be better.01:55
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jrsimsSEJeff: what'll that do?01:55
dummkaufSanne: ok thanks....new to Ubuntu...just used to other distros01:56
SEJefflightbright: Use this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/sbackup/01:56
lightbrightSEJeff: ok ty01:56
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aru!permissions01:57
erUSULaru, edit your fstab file and add something like 'defaults,user' in the 4th field of the line afecting the partition01:57
ubotuaru: I haven't a clue01:57
spencerkanybody familiar with jack?01:57
crimsunnickrud: when they're built and OK'd, they'll be in breezy-backports01:57
dummkaufsane: the ubuntu website doesn't really explain the diffs???01:57
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dummkaufor im just blind01:57
nickrudcrimsun, that's good to hear01:57
crimsunspencerk: lsmod|grep ^snd_seq01:57
aruerUSUL, that disk isnt listed in fstab01:57
cucumberjohnHi I need some help on setting up my screen resolution01:58
cucumberjohnI am new to Ubuntu01:58
nickrudlightbright, sbackup (if it's the one I'm using) is in the universe repository01:58
lightbrightSEJeff: what I am doing is I created 2 partisions on my hdb.  Then I am going to rsync the whole hda1 to hdb1 and hda2 to hdb2, and if something goes wrong, I simply rsynv back and restore :)01:59
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erUSULaru, ?? well add it to fstab to get it mounted at boot01:59
erUSUL!tell cucumberjohn about fixres01:59
spencerkcrimsun, no response to that, does that mean i have no drivers installed?01:59
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aruhmm01:59
lightbrightnickrud: Im going to rsync the whole partitions to another hard drive, my hdb :)01:59
cucumberjohnfixres?01:59
lightbrightnickrud:  if I ever need to, I simply rsync back and restore01:59
crimsunspencerk: then load it.01:59
Sannedummkauf: "Releases" explains Warty, Hoary and Breezy (Breezy is the lastest, you will want that one)01:59
nickrudI saw, but, what if your ps fries both drives?01:59
erUSULcucumberjohn, read what ubotu told you01:59
spencerkcrimsun, how do i do that01:59
crimsunspencerk: sudo modprobe snd-seq02:00
Belgainhi there, i've got a slight problem when running a headless ubuntu system: the desktop resolution gets defaulted to 640x480 when connecting in VNC...02:00
lightbrightnickrud: ps?02:00
nickrudlightbright, power supply02:00
dummkaufSanne -- so then whats the diff between Ubuntu-Server and normal ubuntu??02:00
spencerkthank you02:00
lightbrightnickrud: well if that happens either way you are gone :)02:00
Belgaini think this is because no monitor is detected at boot, and therefore ubuntu uses failsafe settings02:00
lightbrightnickrud: even sbackup wont help you then02:00
cucumberjohnI apologize.  I can't find what ubotu wrote02:00
Belgainhow can i get VNC server to give me a 1280x1024 desktop?02:00
nickrudlightbright, no, sbackup can arrange for writing backups to a dvd/cd overnight. Improves your odds.02:00
spencerkcrimsun, Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/sound/core/seq/snd-seq.ko': No such file or directory02:01
erUSULdummkauf, ubuntu-server does not install ubuntu-desktop only the base system no X02:01
spencerkwhat does that mean?02:01
aruwhat do I want, just defaults under options?02:01
Sannedummkauf: on the page "Applications" is a part about the server version, it's, well, for when you want to set up a server instead of a desktop system.02:01
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crimsunspencerk: did you mess with ALSA at all?02:01
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ryufreak!partition02:01
ubotuNo idea, ryufreak02:01
spencerknot sure02:01
lightbrightnickrud: I dont have a dvd writer :(02:01
dummkauferUSUL -- thanks just thats the only diff then??02:01
crimsunspencerk: ..."not sure"?02:01
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ryufreak!delete partition02:02
uboturyufreak: I don't know, could you explain it?02:02
nickrudlightbright, read about sbackup, it implements a tried and true backup system.02:02
spencerkive been trying to install it, so maybe i messed with something i shouldnt have02:02
erUSULaru, defaults,<your user> as you are mounting it under your home02:02
lightbrightnickrud: but I have a 3rd hard drive that is able to pull put off the front02:02
erUSULdummkauf, yes afaik02:02
dummkaufSanne -- yeah I guessed that much....I was more curious about how it was setup differently and what packages are included on the install cd02:02
spencerkcrimsun, ive also been trying oss or souncore02:02
crimsunoh god.02:02
nickrudlightbright, so, backup to it and pull it often :)02:02
spencerkwould they be easier?02:02
crimsunwhat cpu are you using?02:03
nickrudthink of it as a big tape drive02:03
spencerkathlon02:03
Sannedummkauf: ah, ok :) I believe I read that it comes with the typical web server applications, apache, mysql, php things like that.02:03
crimsunsudo aptitude install linux-k702:03
crimsunthen reboot02:03
spencerkok02:03
spencerkthank you,02:03
lightbrightnickrud: i have 3 hard drives!  1 is internal and other 2 that can be pulled out of front of system unit!  So I can rsync by whole hda to hdb, and then place my other hard drive in and then copy hdb to hda!  then pull out and put in original hda :)  and store the other one in my drawrer :)  ahh i like that idea :)02:03
Belgainso any ideas about setting res for ubuntu when no monitor is connected?02:03
eliphas_how can I make direct rendering working please?02:03
lightbrightnickrud: :)02:03
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nickrudlightbright, there are nearly as many backup strategies as there are systems; as long as the backup has integrity, the method is by preference02:04
erUSULeliphas_, what graphic card?02:04
dummkaufSanne -- ok...think I got this figured out.........if there are any developers here, including readme files on the file servers explaining whats where is really nice to have02:04
eliphas_ati radeon mobility 750002:04
dummkaufjust my 2 cents anyway02:04
crimsundummkauf: huh?02:05
angelpcan someone help me upgrade gparted/parted?02:05
erUSULeliphas_, using ati drivers??02:05
eliphas_yes02:05
Greveshow can i enable the ability to "su" in a terminal?02:05
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erUSUL!tell eliphas_ about ati02:06
lightbrightnickrud: yeah rsync seems very reliable02:06
dummkaufcrimsum -- most distros have readme files along with the ISO and torrent files on the server explaining what the differenes are.....just handy to have around to save time googling the net for answeres02:06
spencerkcrimsun, is this compiling a new kernel? what is this doing, i dont understand this stuff...02:06
beezlyGreves: try using sudo instead02:06
nickrudGreves, you can get the same functionality with sudo [-i|-s] 02:06
eliphas_thanks erUSUL02:06
beezly!tell GregAsche about sudo02:06
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erUSULeliphas_, no problem02:06
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beezlyargh02:07
beezly!tell Greves  about sudo02:07
zorba64!sudo02:07
ubotu[sudo]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo02:07
tlhivhi folks ... i'm a gentoo user and i've heard alot of hype about Ubuntu ... can someone tell me an advantage that Ubunutu has over Gentoo other than binaries packages as opposed to source compilation?02:07
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lightbrightnickrud:  rsync -ravlpogtDH --progress --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/proc / /mnt02:07
Sannedummkauf: yes, readmes would be nice.02:07
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runedude3hello02:08
zorba64tlhiv: try it for yourself02:08
nickrudtlhiv, what other advantage can outweigh that ;)02:08
beezlytlhiv: the main advantage i found is that "it just works"02:08
runedude3can ubuntu read/write to UFS partitions?02:08
aruis there a way to reload fstab or do I have to reboot?02:08
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lightbrightif you want to install multiple files with aptitide is it: simething like: sudo aptitude install kpdf && korganizer && kpf && kpersonalizer02:08
runedude3aru - yea, do mount -a02:08
lightbrightuse the && ?02:08
tlhivbeezly: meaning what?  gentoo does too once it's installed02:08
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crimsunspencerk: no, it's installing a more suitable kernel for your cpu02:08
erUSULaru, sudo mount -a02:08
beezlytlhiv: mmm, yes - "once it's installed" - and assuming you have selected all the correct options for your hardware and the software set up you want etc02:09
arulame02:09
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beezlyrunedude: yes it will02:09
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erUSULlightbright, no simple spaces betwen package names02:09
spencerkand this kernel has alsa?02:09
tlhivbeezly: ok ... well i'll have to chat more about this later ... i gotta run for now02:09
tlhivthanx02:09
crimsunspencerk: all the kernels have ALSA.02:09
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EloraKunHey guys. Is it sensible installing 2 different distros sharing a /home mount? (Breezy + Mandriva 2006)02:10
JanC_spurttlhiv: meaning: ubuntu works about 3 days earlier than gentoo?  ;-)02:10
spencerkcool.02:10
lightbrighterUSUL: so: sudo aptitude install kpdf korganizer kpf kpersonalizer  ?02:10
beezlyEloraKun: yeah - that shouldn't be a problem02:10
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nollidjwhat is the recommended location for putting arguments to modules when they are inserted?  /etc/modules.conf, somewhere in /etd/modules.d/ , or elsewhere?02:10
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Sannedummkauf: in the ftp directories where the iso files are, there are also files with the extension .list, they list the packages in the isos, might give you an idea.02:10
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lightbrighterUSUL: is that what uou mean?02:10
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beezlyEloraKun: you /might/ have some problems with some applications - if they do nasty things with different version of their config files for example, but Iit should work ok02:10
dummkaufElorakun -- yeah....shouldn't be an issue02:11
EloraKunI'm afraid of conflicts between programs versions configuration02:11
zorba64EloraKun: that will work...be an idea to use different sign-in names02:11
nickrudnollidj, in /etc/modules.d , create your own file02:11
beezlyEloraKun: well, i've done it before and it's never been a problem, but it *could* be in theory02:11
EloraKunSo just use different users and everything should be smooth, righ?02:11
nollidjnickrud: thanks.  no equivalent to modconf or any other distributions' module-handling tools?02:11
crimsunmodconf is deprecated.02:12
dummkaufSanne -- yeah....I was more referring to explaining what breezy is and so on and so forth.......just throwing my 2 cents in on the issue....its not that big of a deal02:12
GregAscheI'm getting a static type thing whenever I play a .wmv file, the sound is fine but the video is weird... anyone know how to fix this?02:12
zorba64EloraKun: yep...have done it before with different id's with no probs02:12
lokmhi there...I built up a server on ubuntu... i need use more IPs per one network interface... so I used ifconfig for set this... it works ok but after reboot it's default again... do u know how to save that? pls...02:12
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angelpcan someone help me upgrade gparted/ parted?02:12
EloraKunOk. I'll give it a try now with eLive... Just will have to paste a whole lotta  configuration files...02:12
beezlylokm: try "man interfaces"02:12
nickrudnollidj, no, it seems modconf is going the way of the dodo, and /etc/modules is depreciated.02:12
EloraKunThanks!02:12
lokmbeezly: i will thx02:12
beezlylokm: the file you need to edit is /etc/network/interfaces02:12
lokmbeezly: okie :)02:13
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nollidjnickrud, thanks... i'm showing my age...02:13
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beezlywooo - today is my birthday :)02:13
matsavhalevhappy birthday02:14
angelphappy birthday beezly02:14
aaarghappy bday02:14
beezlythanks all :)02:14
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Sannedummkauf: Ah, I see. Well, I found the ubuntu page answered my questions fairly well when I was looking for info...02:14
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rixthAre wildcards allowed in the hosts file?02:14
beezlyrixth: no02:15
rixthThat would make me life a lot easier :( oh well.02:15
matsavhalevhow do i switch between gdm and kdm easily?02:15
aruso in the file browser, how do I get the little lock off of the directory I mounted my new hdd to?02:15
dell500what's a good ipod manager?02:16
dell500besides gtkpod02:16
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nickrudnollidj, and, I think hotplug is going away too ....02:16
Delviensomehow i managed to execute ssh -X root@localhost without using a terminal ( made a hotbutton and pressed it by accident (forgot to press run in terminal) and i am now running linux as root, anyone know how to go back to my regular user privlegas?02:16
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angelpcan someone please help me upgrade gparted/ parted :-/02:17
matsavhalevDelvien: exit maybe?02:17
nickrudDelvien, in a terminal? exit?02:17
aru/dev/hdc1       /home/aru/ogg  ext3    rw,user,exec    0       0 <- shouldnt that work?02:17
ispikeddoes ubuntu call `iwevent' when one does ifup or ifdown?02:17
zorba64angelp: what is the upgrade prob u have?02:17
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erUSULangelp, sudo apt-get update gparted parted02:18
Delvienwhen i do things in the desktop environment it pops up with wierd windows ive never seen before02:18
angelpthank you erusul02:18
matsavhalevcan anyone help with switching from gdm to kdm or vice versa02:18
Delvieni have no terminals open... atm02:18
erUSULaru, yes it should work change user with the name of your user02:18
angelperusul, "E: The update command takes no arguments02:18
angelp"02:18
Vertigoanyone offer some user experiences with both ubuntu and kubuntu?02:19
zorba64matsavhalev: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm02:19
erUSULangelp, sudo apt-get upgrade gparted parted sorry02:19
matsavhalevthx zorba6402:19
nickrudangelp, do apt-cache policy gparted first, see if there is something to upgrade to?02:19
zorba64matsavhalev: np02:19
aruso theres still a lock on the ogg directory02:19
matsavhalevVertigo: i tried both found that they best for me was to install ubuntu and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop for the best of bith worlds02:19
angelpnickrud, there is, i've been to the website02:19
erUSULaru, have you changed the user??02:20
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Vertigomatsavhalev, ok cool maybe i'll do the same.02:20
arujust tried that02:20
nickrudangelp, then, you'll have to compile it, unless it makes it to backports some day.02:20
angelpok, erusul, it said 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed...?02:20
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angelpwhat02:20
erUSULangelp, there is no new version aviable02:20
matsavhalevVertigo: had some problems with kubuntu last time i tried it, but the same version of ubuntu with kde worked nicely so ive stuck with that. I use kde mostly02:20
erUSULangelp, you are up to date02:20
angelpthe website says theres a new one02:21
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zorba64angelp: why do u need to upgrade it?02:21
angelpzorba64, because its not working02:21
angelpsomeone in #gparted told me to upgrade02:21
nickrudangelp, ubuntu does not update applications, except semi-yearly02:21
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erUSULaru, change the user then umount the partition an then do mount -a and try again02:21
turixi need help to play mp3 files02:22
nollidjnickrud: ???02:22
Vertigomatsavhalev, i use win xp pro daily and am dual booting w/ ubuntu now. using gnome currently and feel like the look is not as bright. im thinking i might like kde. haven't used kde since way back with mandrake 9.02:22
Sanneangelp: if the website has a new version, it doesn't mean that it's already in Ubuntu's package repositories yet.02:22
zorba64angelp: fair enuff...have you tried removing and reinstalling?02:22
nollidjnickrud: i guess i'll stay tuned as the situation develops02:22
turixhow do i install the mp3coder?02:22
nickrudnollidj, stable releases, twice a year :)02:22
erUSUL!tell turix about mp302:22
angelpsanne, ok, so then how do i install from the ewbsite?02:22
zorba64!mp302:22
ubotump3 is, like, totally, to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:22
angelpzorba64: no not yet; i dont know how to install anything02:22
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turix!tell02:22
dreadnoughtwhat do i do when this happens in totem -This is an audio-only file, and there is no audio output available- and the speakers r in02:22
nickrudturix, you're trying to encode mp3's from your cd's?02:23
Vertigodreadnought, another frontier dsl user eh02:23
dreadnoughtyea howd u knmow02:23
turixno i just cant play them02:23
dreadnoughtmy logiun02:23
matsavhalevVertigo: you can just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop in your ubuntu, I think you will be pleasantly suprised KDE has moved on quickly the last few years. I find gnome less intuitive02:23
aruI still dont have permission to use my new hdd, rock02:23
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ecobuntuVertigo: are you canadian?02:23
Sanneangelp: you would need to compile it from source then, but better others help you with that, because I'm not on Ubuntu yet.02:24
Vertigoecobuntu, um no02:24
turixnickrud, just wonder what codec i must install02:24
Vertigomatsavhalev, yeah im definately going to give it a look02:24
angelpsanne: ok. i have been using windows for 10 years. i don't even know what "compile it from source" means.02:24
nickrudturix, sudo apt-get install beep-media-player and gstreamer0.8-mad ; beep-media-player is nice, and the gstreamer is for rhythmbox02:24
ecobuntuyou just said 'eh'02:24
aruman, this is stupid02:24
dreadnoughtwhat do i do when this happens in totem -This is an audio-only file, and there is no audio output available- and the speakers r in02:24
Vertigodreadnought, it tells you when you first sign on02:24
dreadnoughtyea i no02:24
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dreadnoughtok so what do i do02:25
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turix"E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)02:25
turixE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?02:25
turix"02:25
Sanneangelp: then I would recommend to not start with this, if you can avoid it.02:25
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sunsunhi... i have dist-upgrade to breezt02:25
sunsunbreezy02:25
sunsunand... now i can't get out of the shell02:25
turixnickrud, when will it be available?02:25
nickrudturix, first, don't paste :) and second, you have synaptic open02:25
angelpsanne: so....i'm screwed?02:25
sunsunits definitely upgraded... to breezy02:25
turixok w802:25
Sanneangelp: why do you need to upgrade the application?02:26
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angelpsanne: because it is not working and this guy on #gparted told me to upgrade and see if it worked02:26
nickrudturix, you should step through wiki.ubuntu.com ; it will help you enable playing all the media that ubuntu can.02:26
Brunellussunsun:  sudo apt-get -f install02:26
nickrud*wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  turix02:26
ecobuntuangelp: install ntfsprogs02:26
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Sanneangelp: maybe somebody here who's on Ubuntu could help with your problem your version of the program has now.02:27
angelpecobuntu: did it; still not wroking...02:27
sunsunBrunellus, will this bring me to the GUI02:27
ecobuntuangelp: run ntfsresize02:27
mahanguhow can I check the md5 of a file?02:27
ecobuntuat terminal02:27
sunsunBrunellus, i want to get out of the shell and back to my desktop environemnet02:27
sunsunhello02:27
nickrudmahangu, md5sum <file>02:27
zorba64angelp: what is gparted not letting you do?02:27
mahangusunsun, alt+f702:27
Brunellussunsun:  you can't get to the gui because the gui is broken.  apt-get -f install will try to fix any packages that didn't upgrade cleanly in the initial upgrade02:27
mahangunickrud, thanks, had forgotten the syntax :)02:27
angelpzorba64, resize a partition02:28
Brunellussunsun: I had the same problem02:28
angelpecobuntu, ok, now what02:28
dreadnoughtis there nothing i can do about thiis02:28
ecobuntuangelp: i don't know...all i know is it's a program to resize ntfs partitions...isn't it a gui?02:28
dreadnoughtwhat do i do when this happens in totem -This is an audio-only file, and there is no audio output available- and the speakers r in02:28
angelpecobuntu no....it has this list of like commands and stuff...02:29
nickruddreadnought, what kind of file are you trying to play?02:29
ecobuntuoh02:29
ecobuntuhold on02:29
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turix"Couldn't find beep-media.player"02:29
zorba64angelp: what sort of partition? /dev/hda?02:29
purplefeltangelzorba64...uhhh... i dont know.02:29
purplefeltangel    -i, --info             Estimate the smallest shrunken size supported02:29
purplefeltangel    -s, --size SIZE        Resize volume to SIZE[k|M|G]  bytes02:29
purplefeltangel    -n, --no-action        Do not write to disk02:29
purplefeltangel    -f, --force            Force to progress (DANGEROUS)02:29
purplefeltangel    -P, --no-progress-bar  Don't show progress bar02:29
purplefeltangel    -v, --verbose          More output02:29
purplefeltangel    -V, --version          Display version information02:29
purplefeltangel    -h, --help             Display this help02:29
purplefeltangeloops :/02:29
turixnickrud, no 'sudocommand' seems to work properly02:29
nickrudturix, beep-media-player (and do you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled)02:29
zorba64purplefeltangel: dont paste...u will get kicked02:29
mahangupurplefeltangel, pastebin02:30
purplefeltangelzorba64 iw as trying to do it into a private message02:30
turixwhat is that?02:30
dreadnoughtnickrud mp302:30
mahangu!pastebin02:30
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:30
zorba64!pastebin02:30
sunsunBrunellus, ok, i have done this, and now i reboot02:30
mahangunickrud, how can I compare the md5sums of two files?02:30
nickruddreadnought, go to wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats , and do the first step there02:30
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egon_spenglerQuick Q. What is the channel for the dapperdrake flight 102:30
sunsunBrunellus, booting the kernel, hope it works02:30
ecobuntuwhat happens if you type partman at the command?02:30
nickrudmahangu, I just eyeball the beginning and ends of the md5sums :)02:31
sunsunBrunellus, so if it doesn't work , waht do i do next02:31
zorba64purplefeltangel: have you tried running, sudo gparted from a terminal?02:31
purplefeltangelzorba64, uh, i think so02:31
sunsuni still get the shell, any suggestionS?02:31
zorba64purplefeltangel: go try it now02:31
mahangunickrud, yeah figured id do that too :)02:31
nickrudmahangu, odds seem good, don't they ;)02:32
purplefeltangelzorba64 it just opened gparted02:32
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Greveshow do i add multiverse repository? the wiki doesn't work when i follow it02:32
zorba64purplefeltangel: good, how many partitions do you have?02:32
purplefeltangelzorba64 202:32
dreadnoughtnickrud it worked before maybe my speakers broke02:32
mahangunickrud, i guess I can use a combination of grep too, if im _really_ anal about it02:33
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nickrudGreves, the simple way, is to sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list , and add multiverse to each line that has universe in it.02:33
sunsunBrunellus, i have apt-get -f installe02:33
zorba64purplefeltangel: which one do you want to resize? and make sure you unmount it02:33
sunsunbut... i get an error02:33
sunsunSub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code()02:34
nickrudmahangu, for me, figuring that out would take more work than eyeballing 50 md5sums, lol02:34
sunsunsomeone tell me howi fix the gui??02:34
Grevesnickrud, thanks02:34
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nickrudGreves, np02:35
mahangusunsun, it sounds like your package manager is borked02:35
sunsunmahangu, how do i fix it02:35
mahangudid you make any changes recently, or did something else happen?02:35
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sunsundon't know - i dist-upgraded from >>02:36
sunsunwaorthy02:36
sunsunmohangu, plz tell02:36
mahanguhmmm02:36
mahangusunsun, does apt-get update work?02:36
mahanguwithout breaking?02:36
zorba64sunsun: bit of a stretch that upgrade02:36
sunsunwell i tried it... it did not break02:37
sunsunit did the whole thing02:37
sunsuntried it twice already02:37
zorba64sunsun: have you looked at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade?highlight=%28breezy%2902:37
JestreWhy is it that everytime I try to configure my wireless network during the install, I give it my ESSID, etc and it still tries to connect to another in the neighborhood?02:37
zorba64sunsun: and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes?highlight=%28breezy%2902:37
jasonjdpomg omg, just got my xvid movies playing in gxine!  thnx all you guys rock!02:38
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zorba64purplefeltangel: how did you go with it??02:38
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Lennbye everybody02:38
naliothsunsun: please join #kubuntu-offtopic02:38
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PublicAnnoyanceduz any1 no how 2 lock the screen in xfce?02:39
dreadnoughtso what can i do wtih my speaker issue02:39
DelvienWhen i log on to ubuntu i get a pop up for OpenSSH which askes me for my root password, anyone know how to change my login from dm@localhost to dm@dmlinux ( my old one?)02:39
PublicAnnoyancethe lock screen button does not work02:39
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Delviennalioth any idea?02:40
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egon_spenglerPublicAnnoyance, Just tried the lock, and worked a treat here02:40
naliothDelvien: i have 0 idea02:40
sunsunnalioth, ok thks for the invite02:40
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aruif anyone cares to help me install a hdd and mount it to where I can use it let me know02:41
PublicAnnoyancedoes anyone know of any other ways to lock it then, or why mine doesn't work?02:41
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nickruddreadnought, play the mp3 in another app, and plug the speakers into another source: basic troubleshooting techniques02:41
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mahangusuneco, get in there - #kubuntu-offtopic02:41
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mahangunalioth will fix you right up02:42
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Urthm0verhow do I configure breezy to work with a remote Xserver?  what do I need to change on the host(this ubuntu system)?02:42
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dreadnoughtnickrud music player says   cannot open resource and totem says it can find speakers!02:43
axisyshow do make sure mplayer does not kick in for ram files while browsing through firefox02:43
aruI have the hard disk installed in the computer, apparently it is showing up as /dev/hdc1, I thought I formatted it with Disks Manager to ext3 but now it won't mount when user permissions plus it mounts 10gb smaller than it is02:43
mahangudreadnought, speakers are irrelevant, the sound card is what your computer talks to02:43
Urthm0verdoes anyone know how to server Zwindows to a remote system?02:44
dreadnoughtmahangu thayre integrated02:44
Urthm0verXwindows02:44
axisysnever had good experience with totem02:44
nickruddreadnought, what does dpkg -l gstreamer0.8-mad tell you? (the first two characters on the line, please)02:44
Urthm0vervnc is too slow02:44
mahangunickrud, shouldn't he try xmms for mp3s?02:44
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dreadnoughtill paste in us channel02:44
dreadnoughtur02:44
Urthm0verI guess none of you even really knows enough to help ?02:44
war-totemaxisys: im the same way02:44
mahangunickrud, and perhaps the system is squating on the sound daeman - a killall esd?02:44
mahanguUrthm0ver, be patient, an answer will come your way02:45
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axisyswar-totem: what is a good alternative?02:45
GTroyUrthm0ver: always does to me02:45
war-totemaxisys: vlc plays everything ive needed it too02:45
rabeldableUrthm0ver: vnc is fast for me02:45
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war-totemaxisys: and theirs a native linux client02:46
aruI've been trying to fuckin fdisk the drive, and I've tried gparted, it doesnt show up in gparted and fdisk says unable to open02:46
axisyswar-totem: which one is that?02:46
war-totemaxisys: sudo apt-get install vlc02:46
Urthm0verover vpn I think compressed ssh would give me better performance02:46
lurahnite -->02:46
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Vertigol*ter02:46
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war-totemaxisys: its a player that plays all movies with all codecs (as far as ive learned)02:46
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Urthm0verthere is no such thing as sudo apt-get install XDM02:47
aruall I want is for the bastard to mount to my home directory so I can copy stuff to it02:47
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Urthm0veror something similar02:47
rabeldableUrthm0ver: You might have a packet fragmentation problem check you MTU size02:47
axisyswar-totem: which player is that.. u talking about vlc?02:47
war-totemaxisys: video lan its a multimedia player02:47
rabeldableanyone know how to add factoids to ubotu?02:47
war-totemaxisys: www.videolan.org02:47
war-totemaxisys: i think02:47
Urthm0verrabeldable: and where do02:48
Urthm0verI check that?02:48
occy!wmv02:48
ubotu[restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats02:48
axisyswar-totem: that's vlc02:48
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rabeldableUrthm0ver: ifconfig -a and look for MTU size02:48
axisyswar-totem: gotcha02:48
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war-totemaxisys: =)02:48
occy!FreeFormats02:48
ubotufreeformats is, like, totally, There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats02:48
pztakok so gparted failed :( it couldn't resize the external vfat hdd02:48
pztakany ideas why?02:48
pztakit was unmounted02:49
Urthm0vercause I'm almost positive running the Xserver locally will be guaranteed better performanbce..think about it...less size in the packets...and it's not like a screen capture02:49
rabeldableUrthm0ver: if its 1500 try to lower it in incriments of 20 to find the "sweet spot"02:49
aruso basicly I'm installing a new fuckin hard drive and have no idea where to start, I think... is there a guide for that?02:49
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ecobuntupurplefeltangel: did you get it to work?  i know how to do this ntfsresize...it's very easy02:49
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Grevescan anyone help me with sound? i picked the right card on the mixer, but no dice02:49
GTroyaru: just remember to set the jumper to slave02:49
aruthat part is already done02:49
Madpilotaru: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive02:49
Urthm0verso back to the original question does anyone in here know what configs I need to change or what services to start in order to connect to the Xserver of the ubuntu installation from a remote system?02:49
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aruMadpilot, sweet, thanks02:50
mahanguGreves, what is wrong, _where_ doesnt sound play?02:50
mahangusystem sounds play?02:50
war-totemanyone know of an efficient way to wipe a computer clean?02:50
Grevesmahangu, no sounds play02:50
Urthm0verI'll try to do that while I hope that others actually know what I'm talking about02:50
joeybEvery hour, at 17 minutes and one second past the hour, there is a root login and root logout message in my auth.log, any idea?02:50
foampeaceGreves, i dont know try alsamixer -c 102:50
mahanguGreves, nothing at all? hmmm02:50
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foampeaceGreves, what soundcard?02:51
rabeldableUrthm0ver: have you looked at ssh -X for X11 forwarding, and when you get there type startx.02:51
rabeldableyou need a Xclient installed on the system your going from.02:51
foampeaceGreves...sudo apt-get install alsamixer02:51
egon_spenglerwar-totem, Try dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda02:51
foampeaceGreves. maybe hit m to unmute channels02:51
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Grevesfoampeace, its a sblive! 24 bit02:51
axisyshow do i replace mplayer plugin with VLC on firefox?02:51
war-totemegon_spengler: ok, and that will wipe everything clean? just from that command?02:52
egon_spenglerwar-totem, yup, takes input from random and outputs to the first drive02:52
egon_spengler/dev/hdb would be second drive02:52
egon_spengleretc02:52
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war-totemegon_spengler: ok thaknks02:53
pztakok so gparted failed :( it couldn't resize the external vfat hdd... it was unmounted.. any ideas?02:53
Urthm0verrabeldable:  I'm a linux noob.....specifically what config file and where in it do I need to make a switch...then what can I do to test that the ssh service is running and listening properly to forward X1102:53
war-totemegon_spengler: but why would i be outputting anything? sorry this is new territory for me02:53
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Urthm0veris all this configured by default?02:53
Grevesmahangu, i have an sblive 24-bit card, and onboard nforce2. both were recognized, but don't work02:53
egon_spenglerwar-totem, You are using the dd utility to overwrite whatever WAS on the drive02:54
foampeaceGreves, is the ca0106 modules listed when you type lsmod?02:54
war-totemegon_spengler: ok and what is dd?02:54
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war-totemegon_spengler:  delete drive?02:54
Urthm0verman I'm dossappointed02:55
Urthm0verdiss02:55
Grevesfoampeace, snd_ca0106 is02:55
JanC_spurtGreves: that's a desktop?02:55
mahanguGreves, try killall esd and tell me what bash tells you?02:55
mojohttp://orion.thos.me.uk/~joneslee85/Avatar/Cuong.png02:55
Urthm0vermaybe I'll ask in the debian room....seems ubuntu help coincides with unbuntu level of difficulty02:55
foampeaceGreves, then do like i said...you might have to specify the card for you mixer. try alsamixer -c 0 or -c 102:55
Grevesmahangu, it didn't tell me anything02:55
Tobawill upgrading to breezy wreck any of my settings?02:55
aruMadpilot, the drive is still locked and I can't write to it02:55
egon_spenglerwar-totem, No, dd is a file/disk util02:55
foampeaceGreves, unmute the channels of the cards02:56
war-totemegon_spengler: gotcha, thakns02:56
mahanguGreves, try playing sound now02:56
egon_spenglerwar-totem, As an example dd if=/dev/hdc (cdrom) of=cdrom.iso02:56
Grevesfoampeace, they are unmuted dude02:56
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Grevesmahangu, nope02:56
egon_spenglerwar-totem, Copies the cdrom to an iso image02:56
foampeaceGreves: modules loaded?02:56
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Grevesfoampeace, yes...02:57
war-totemegon_spengler: i think im getting it02:57
jrattner1Has anyone ever synced a Windows Mobile device (PDA smartphone) with linux ?02:57
foampeaceGreves, no system sound?02:57
mahanguGreves, go with foampeace02:57
Grevesfoampeace, i have system beeps, thats it02:57
foampeaceGreves, hard to say....did you try both cards alone?02:58
joeybI figured out my previous question, it was a cron job thanks guys.02:58
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Grevesfoampeace, i didn' try the nforce onboard sound, but i don't use that02:58
Delvienanyone know a way to revert an old setting on menu editor? i deleted crossover office area accidently then saved it stupid me02:58
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aruso after a drive is formatted and partitions created what is the next step to get it mounted to where I can copy stuff to it02:58
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JanC_spurtGreves: can you disable the onboard sound card in the BIOS?02:59
foampeaceGreves, look here http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=Sound+Blaster+Live+7.1.&chip=SB0410%2C+P17&module=ca010602:59
Avenanyone know a linux program like Graveman, but better?02:59
pppoe_dudehi, when i create a gpg key, how can I sign it? (it still says signature "UNKNOWN" in the status... and if i try importing it to another copmuter, it wouldnt trust the key02:59
egon_spengleraru, Choose to create a directory of some sort as a mount point, then issue the mount command as root02:59
mahanguaru, mount /dev/hdaX /mnt/whatever02:59
egon_spengleraru, E.g. mkdir /mnt/drive_d then sudo mount /dev/hdb /mnt/drive_d02:59
aruegon_spengler, I did that, but once the drive is mounted, the users cannot access the drive02:59
foampeaceGreves, yes you may have to disable the nforce in the bios first, but it may not be neccessary. However i dont think my sblive is working with the nforce on which im using also03:00
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JanC_spurtGreves: or if that's not possible, with a jumper on the motherboard?03:00
foampeaceGreves: i think you have to pick one or the other...or it might take more effort03:00
pppoe_dudearu, easy way is to create a directory inside it and do chmod 777 [directory name] 03:00
pppoe_dude(as root03:00
AvenWhat's a good program like Graveman but better03:00
aruok03:00
Aven?03:00
GrevesJanC_spurt, i can't imagine i need to disable the onboard for the sblive card to work03:00
pppoe_dudearu, you can also chmod 777 the original directory03:00
AvenHELP03:01
foampeaceGreves, let me see if my sblive works and we'll see, you would require more configuration somewhere if not03:01
war-totemAven: dont yell.  why dont you tell us what graveman is03:01
Kyralgraveman is a CD burning app03:01
Avenyeah03:01
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KyralIts no k3b03:02
aruhah, that was so easy03:02
JanC_spurtGreves: when there are 2 cards enabled, ubuntu might not know which one to use...03:02
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pppoe_dudeany tips on making the signature valid on my gpg key03:02
pppoe_dude?03:02
angelpare the people who were helping me before in here03:02
aruthanks for the help03:02
liabledoesn't work03:03
GrevesJanC_spurt, can't i just turn off the nforce modules then?03:03
foampeaceGreves, sblive works03:03
foampeaceGreves, what program you looking at for sound anyway?03:03
Grevesany03:03
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Grevesmplayer, rhythmbox, xmms03:03
JanC_spurtGreves: maybe yes, but it's easier when your BIOS supports it03:04
occyIntel Corp. Mobile Graphics Controller -- Anyone know about 3D stuff with Ubuntu and this chipset?03:04
JanC_spurt(to disable it)03:04
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foampeaceGreves, onboard is card 0.sblive should be card:103:04
dell500how long do you think it will take for almost 40gb of mp3s to be transfer over to my ipod?03:04
foampeaceGreves mess around in xmms to see if you can get audio through oss first03:04
foampeaceunder output plugin03:05
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foampeacegreves: choose oss, or alsa or esd, whatevre03:06
mustard5Greves, try using alsamixer in terminal03:06
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Grevesok foampeace i can get audo in xmms through ALSA03:06
mustard5Greves, you can do something like alsamixer -c 0  or alsamixer -c 1 to change devices03:06
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Grevesmustard5, will "alsamixer -c 1" set the default card to 1?03:07
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mustard5Greves, it will give you volume controls for that device in terminal03:07
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Grevesmustard5, i need to set the default card03:07
mustard5Greves, you on gnome?03:07
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Grevesyes03:07
foampeaceGreves -c 0 is card 103:07
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mustard5Greves, so when you double click on the volume control you get a menu and you look in the File menu and change devices03:08
foampeaceGreves, select the card in software03:08
foampeaceGreves, select card in xmms or bmp or mplayer config etc.03:08
defendguini need the imagemagick  dev files so that i can build something that requires it but i dont see the needed package in apt03:08
mustard5Greves, or as foampeaces says too :)03:08
aru!restricted03:09
uboturestricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats03:09
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Grevesfoampeace, i don't have any options in Rhythmbox03:09
foampeacegreves hw0,0 is onboard hw1,0 is sound card03:09
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Grevesfoampeace, right03:10
Grevesfoampeace, can i change ubuntu default from esd to alsa?03:10
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mustard5Greves, I would..03:10
mustard5Greves, I have both on alsa03:10
foampeaceGreves, if it isnt working03:10
mustard5Greves, mind you I also have sound server disabled too03:11
mojowhy Dapper is so crap? I couldn't run some programs, >,<03:11
mustard5mojo, Dapper is in development03:11
rob1any one know what the default email client is on a fresh ubuntu install? evolution?03:11
foampeaceGreves you can just select oss as well03:11
Grevesok i change the default sound card now it works03:11
Grevesit sounds like shit though03:11
JanC_spurtfoampeace: if no other process uses/locks alsa, then esd just uses alsa...03:11
mustard5mojo, its the the stable release of ubuntu03:11
Grevesxmms sounds like shit too03:12
mojomusard5: i know ,it's stable and it deosn't run programs = crap03:12
VociousNeed help with sound when i play DVD and why i doesnt play smoothly, pm please :)03:12
JanC_spurtmojo: dapper = unstable03:12
mojo??03:12
mojoso confusing!03:12
angelpwhat is dapper?03:12
sas171hi, every time I'm starting ubuntu new I have to configure pppoe. If I dont Im getting the "Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded." message but the computer is not connected. What should I do to connect at boot time?03:12
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Tobahave the weird sound issues with hoary been fixed in breezy?03:13
JanC_spurtmojo, "Dapper Drake" = 6.04 will be released April 200603:13
Grevesit sounds like there is a buffering issue or soemthing i dont know what03:13
Grevesit just sounds really bad03:13
JanC_spurtGreves: with asa or with ESD ?03:13
Grevesalsa03:13
TobaI don't like esd03:13
JanC_spurts/asa/alsa/03:13
Tobaalsa is better imo03:13
Grevesi think alsa03:14
JanC_spurtToba: depends03:14
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TobaJanC_spurt: which of my statements are you referring to?03:14
`23meg i'm having a severe 2d problem with x86 driver 7667 + gnome : desktop icons get repainted very slow and 2d performance suffers a lot. renderaccel is on. i'll appreciate any help on this03:14
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`23megit didn't happen with my last installation03:15
JanC_spurtToba: with alsa many applications can't share the sound device03:15
Tobawell03:15
Tobaesd had that issue too03:15
Tobain 5.0403:15
Tobabut I found a hack to send all esd data to alsa03:15
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Tobathe problems persist though :(03:15
Greveshow do i change ubuntu default from esd to alsa? what config file is that in?03:16
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SPCcrowI have a small question, how come the new kernel version is 2.6.12 but i can only get kernel source from apt-get for 2.6.11???03:16
JanC_spurtESD (almost?) always sends its data to alsa, but it mixes audio from several applications first03:16
nickrudGreves, you do that with system->preferences->multimedia system selector03:16
tgaGreves, system admin - sound - don't start server at startup03:16
SPCcrowand does that make a difference?03:16
tgayeah, nickrud sounds better advised03:17
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nickrudGreves: but, if you get alsa working right (with dmix) then do what tga says :)03:18
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ecobuntuangelp: did you get it to work?03:19
angelpecobuntu, no. :(03:19
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ecobuntuangelp: i think i know how to do it with ntfsresize03:19
angelpecobuntu ok :)03:19
ecobuntupm me03:20
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sas171hi, every time I'm starting ubuntu new I have to configure pppoe. If I dont Im getting the "Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded." message but the computer is not connected. What should I do to connect at boot time?03:22
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EriCKYWASSUP UBUNTERS!03:23
EriCKYuh sorry03:24
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Grevesin the multimedia systems selector, when i press "Test", should i hear a constant beep sound?03:24
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mehanyone know which wireless USB adapters ubuntu supports?03:24
Amante_y_Poetasome girl to talk from my hearth to her soul?03:24
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mustard5ubotu: tell meh about wireless03:24
mustard5meh check the PM from ubotu03:24
Wondersaurus!wireless03:25
ubotumethinks wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards03:25
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sas171is there some software for ADSL connection?03:26
Grevesshould it be a constant beep? can somone check please?03:26
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mustard5Greves, yes03:26
mustard5Greves, its a continous high pitched noise03:27
Grevesok something is wrong with mine then03:27
Grevesmine goes "beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-tsk-beeeeeeeeeeeeeee-tsk-beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeE"03:27
Grevesthere's little static-y breaks03:27
mustard5Greves, the default source on mine makes no noise03:27
Grevesany idea how to fix the static on mine?03:28
mustard5Greves, not any set procedure...I just fiddle around with sound problems03:29
mustard5Greves, you might have other sound processes running03:29
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mustard5Greves, have you disabled the sound server?03:30
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mustard5Greves, and killed an esd processes?03:30
Grevesmustard5, yes03:30
mustard5Greves, do a ps -e | grep esd03:30
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mustard5Greves, that will show esd if it is running03:30
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mustard5Greves, I get nothing but grief with esd, so I stick with alsa03:31
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Grevesmustard5, esd is not running03:31
runedude_hey all.. got a q. i have a dhcp server working and 2 computers are networked (ubuntu having internet connection and a dhcp server) but my windows computer cant access the internet through the ubuntu computer, whats going on03:31
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runedude_?03:31
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tlhivhi folks03:32
mustard5Greves, I'm out of ideas...what device you using atm?03:32
tlhivback again03:32
mustard5Greves, onboard or sound card?03:32
tlhivhere to chat a little about ubuntu03:32
Grevessoundcard03:32
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tlhivtrying to get to know it a little ... have a friend that likes it ... I'm a Gentoo user and love it ... just wondering the advantages over Gentoo03:32
runedude_anyone know?03:32
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dpthow do we know what my ip address is???03:33
mustard5Greves, what type of soundcard?03:33
Grevessblive 24-bit03:33
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mustard5Greves, hmm..I'll check the forums ..I think that is a card with problems03:33
nicolas_pelaez03:34
optishhow can i remove xubuntu-desktop and all the other programs it installed?03:34
mustard5Greves, here is one thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307&highlight=sblive+24bit03:34
asprorunedude_: if you have a modem/router than you likely do not need to run a dhcp server as your modem would be doing that03:34
dptnicolas03:35
mustard5Greves, search the forum for posts on your card using keywords like 'sblive' and '24bit'03:35
Xenguydpt: ifconfig03:35
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dptthanks03:35
runedude_aspro:  i do have a router, but i want to make ubuntu my router03:35
runedude_as i have a LAN upstairs in my room >.<03:35
mustard5Greves, unfortunately you have one of the only soundblaster cards that doesnt work to well with linux03:35
asprorunedude_: ah well I use my router, so I am not familiar with setting up a dhcp server :)03:36
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WondersaurusI'm kinda having trouble getting Ubuntu to connect to my router.03:36
runedude_ah ok03:36
WondersaurusWirelessly, that is.03:36
runedude_well my dhcp server works fine, but... my windows computer isnt able to connect to the internet03:36
Fr0Gsi have removed files by going rm file.avi how do i remove the trash can threw ssh in root03:36
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mustard5Fr0Gs, usually there is a ~/.trash file03:38
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DShepherdhey03:38
runedude_rb03:38
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mustard5Fr0Gs, capital T sorry03:38
mustard5Fr0Gs, I just checked mine03:39
Fr0Gswhats the command to remove everything in there03:39
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runedude_ok03:39
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mustard5Fr0Gs, not sure..I wouldnt like to recommend an rm command and be wrong :)03:40
runedude_now i am on ssh via my windows machine, to the ubuntu machine, but i still cant access the internet03:40
ice9does anyone know how to make a vcd cue file ?03:40
ice9pls pm me03:40
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ice9in widows its easy03:40
mahanguhow do I decrypt a key someone send me using gnupg?03:40
XenguyFr0Gs: not sure what you want to do03:40
mustard5Fr0Gs, -r is recursive03:40
mustard5Xenguy, he wants to delete his ~/.Trash directory via ssh03:41
RockyBurthm, is dapper drake stable enough to try out yet?03:41
Xenguymahangu: decrypt a message requires having sender's public key03:41
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mahanguXenguy, im trying to sign up for biglumber03:42
XenguyFr0Gs: if what mustard5 says is true, then 'rm -rf ~/.Trash will delete the directory, and everything in it (use with CAUTION)03:42
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Xenguymahangu: sorry, no single quote03:42
ice9can anyone help ?03:43
ice9or no of a channel that can03:43
ice9know of a channel that can03:43
DShepherdFr0Gs:  I dont think you want to delete the trash directory too03:43
Xenguyice9: I have never heard of a "vcd cue file"03:43
DShepherdFr0Gs: 'rm -rf ~/.Trash <-- will delete the Trash directory too03:44
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ice9its a image file03:44
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ice9cue / bin03:44
mustard5DShepherd, I think it just gets replaced when you put trash in again..if not you could always make another one :)03:44
DShepherdFr0Gs: cd ./Trash..... Then rm -fr *03:44
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DShepherdFr0Gs: cd ~/.Trash..... Then rm -fr * <-- thats better03:44
kassah_how do I search for packages/install/etc... ? (i.e. for like mysql, apache, php?)03:45
XenguyFr0Gs: er, cd ~/.Trash, then what DShepherd said03:45
Fr0Gsi just typed rm file.avi03:45
Fr0Gsand it's not in the trash where the fuk is it03:45
tlhivhi guys ... i've recently been hearing alot of hype about Ubuntu and being a Gentoo fan, I'd like to know what makes Ubuntu so special that it might make me switch distros03:45
Xenguykassah_: apt-cache search keyword...03:45
Xenguykassah_: does a full-text search of package descriptions03:45
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mustard5Fr0Gs, no swearing in main channel plz03:45
DShepherdFr0Gs: We dont know03:45
Fr0Gswere does it go03:46
Fr0Gsffs03:46
Fr0Gsi have about 10gb somewhere03:46
mustard5Fr0Gs, if you rm it its gone03:46
mustard5Fr0Gs, never to return03:46
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Fr0Gsammm03:46
ice9lol03:46
Fr0Gsyeh but it doesnt free up any space03:46
kassah_Xenguy, and how do I install it once I find it?03:46
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ice9how can I build a cue fiel03:46
ice9file03:46
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Xenguykassah_: apt-get install packagename03:46
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Xenguykassah_: sudo/root is required03:47
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kassah_thanks!03:47
Xenguykassah_: yw03:47
mustard5Fr0Gs, try locate <filename>03:47
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Delvien i just removed my DESKTOP , is there an undo button in terminal.. im about to go crazy.03:48
XenguyFr0Gs: cd / && sudo find . -iname file.avi03:48
XenguyFr0Gs: to find a file of that name03:48
kassah_Xenguy, do I need to update my local package list somehow?03:48
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XenguyFr0Gs: that is a brute-force search, and may take a little time, depending03:48
Xenguykassah_: yes...03:49
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DShepherddo you guys prefer find or locate to search for stuff?03:49
Xenguykassah_: sudo apt-get update  <- first03:49
kassah_thankee :)03:49
mustard5DShepherd, I use locate...others use find it seems03:49
XenguyDShepherd: locate is faster03:49
kassah_thanks a bunch03:49
sadaiyagso...03:49
DShepherdmustard5, Xenguy ok03:49
Delviennalioth I accidently pressed enter when i was trying to remove a file on my desktop. but removed Desktop instead. i did sudo rm -r .home/dm/Desktop , is there a way to undo this, because i just deleted ALL my MP3s and pictures and documents, and everything03:49
DShepherdDelvien: :O03:50
ice9does anyone know of a channel that could help me burn images and make cue files03:50
mustard5Delvien, I think you just lost your desktop for good03:50
Delvienomfg03:50
XenguyDelvien: backups are your friend03:50
naliothDelvien: i'm afraid there is no known way to get that stuff back w/o prior preperation03:50
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Delvienim about to shoot myself03:50
bmrtinis there a list for apt repos somewhere03:50
egon_spenglerDelvien, You just sent EVERYTHING into the bit bucket of no return03:50
bmrtini cant seem to find any03:50
naliothubotu: tell bmrtin about sources03:50
DShepherdDelvien: sorry man03:50
sadaiyagi am thinking of installing ubuntu on my new system...03:51
dylan_how do i stop totem from attempting to play movies it doesnt have codecs for in mozilla firefox?  i want it to stop03:51
sadaiyagbut will i be able to play games on it ?03:51
bmrtinthanks03:51
DShepherdthat's one thing that people complain about with the unix command rm03:51
NeoKre8orsadaiyag: what kind of games?03:51
mustard5DShepherd, what were you trying to do?03:51
mustard5DShepherd, oops wrong nick03:51
DShepherdmustard5: :)03:51
mustard5Delvien, what were you trying to remove?03:51
sadaiyagearth 2160... that FPS called Gun... the upcoming "Spore"03:52
Delvienfmustard5 a file on my desktop...03:52
DShepherdmustard5: he was triying to remove a file03:52
DShepherdmustard5: hi fingers when too fast03:52
mustard5Delvien, it would have been safer to cd ~/Desktop03:52
sadaiyagNeokre8r:  is this possible or no ?03:52
mustard5Delvien, then rm from inside that directory03:52
DShepherdmustard5: I dont think he cares to hear that now03:52
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DShepherdmustard5: he's in pain...03:52
mustard5DShepherd, true03:52
T-Birdhow goes it?03:52
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MocoHey, whenever i run ./configure, it says that it can't create executables..03:53
XenguyDelvien: reminds me of the time I wiped out my windows filesystem from linux with a rm -rf command - yeah, painful learning experience03:53
T-Birdkinda new here, just saying hi03:53
DShepherdT-Bird: welcome...you will learn alot :)03:53
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T-BirdI'm hoping03:53
sadaiyagso is that possible ?03:53
DShepherdXenguy: that gives me an idea, i am new to linux too but..I doing to right a Trash command...03:53
sadaiyagdoes linux have good support for the latest video cards ?03:53
DShepherdright = write*03:54
nickrudA quick survey: who has home on separate partitions?03:54
T-Birdused to use Gentoo, now using Ubuntu..liking it a lot03:54
dylan_how do i stop totem from attempting to play movies it doesnt have codecs for in mozilla firefox?  i want it to stop03:54
DShepherdnickrud: had.. not anymore03:54
DelvienHow do i remake my Desktop then?03:54
DelvienTHIS SUCKS OMG03:54
XenguyDShepherd: it's what folks coming from windows seem to expect, even though it is not the traditional *nix way :-)03:54
DelvienEVERYHING is gone,03:54
Delvien15 hours of work ahead of me for pressing enter by accident03:54
XenguyDelvien: those commands are powerful, yes03:55
DShepherdXenguy: yeah... but we must admit...it is safer...to an extent03:55
XenguyDShepherd: yep, no question03:55
mustard5Delvien, you can cd ~/  and then mkdir .Desktop I would think03:55
DelvienXenguy and it didnt even remove the one thing i wanted, and i cant delete it at all now. ,03:55
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T-Birdis there a way to update to 5.10 from 5.04?  links appreciated03:56
XenguyDelvien: you should make backing up your important data your first priority now that you have had this experience -- then, next time it happens, you will just laugh and restore from backup03:56
alfredohola03:56
DShepherddylan_: check your /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins for the totem plugin and move it to somewhere else...your desktop maybe...that should work...03:56
DelvienXenguy i would think linux is more intelligent than that.. thats one of the reasons i switched over to linux. But obviously its no better than windows in that asspect, just as retarded03:57
dylan_DShepherd, could i just delete it03:57
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DShepherddylan_: yeah..but....there's no coming back with rm..03:57
dylan_DShepherd, if its a stupid plugin that i dont care about...no worries i can just install it again with synaptic right?03:58
XenguyDelvien: *nix assumes you know what you are doing when you issue commands; sometimes that can be painful when you don't have backups, as you just found out.  My condolences :-/03:58
jsubl2T-Bird, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade03:58
DShepherddylan_: what ever fuggles your muggle03:58
dylan_DShepherd, which means i can?03:58
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DShepherddylan_: yup03:58
DelvienXenguy in other words, people new to linux are screwed and bound to fuck up everything03:58
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DShepherddylan_: it's jamaican talk...well more my frens tank03:59
DShepherdtalk*03:59
mustard5Delvien, take a deep breath and count to ten03:59
ObsidiansWhat does this error mean? "glxgears: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:59
Obsidians" I'm using an Athlon64 and I'm trying to get my ATI drivers installed properly.03:59
mustard5Delvien, swearing will get you kicked out of channel03:59
DShepherdDelvien: that's where GUI comes in..03:59
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XenguyDelvien: look at it this way: since you didn't have any backups, your hard drive could have simply failed, and everything would be lost.  It would be the same result, and have nothing to do with linux.  You just learned a hard lesson about backups, that's all.03:59
Delvienmustard5 hard to do when i now have so much more crap to work on now, it will be a week before i get EVERYTHING back03:59
_jasonDelvien, you might want to also alias rm as "rm -i" so that it makes you confirm deletions03:59
rixthHow do I make strace only capture filesystem operations?04:00
mustard5Delvien, we all know what you are feeling...we have all done it before ourselves04:00
Delvien_jason didnt know that..04:00
nalioth_zZzDelvien: we've all done it. i have personally lost over 40gb of stuff accidentally04:00
DShepherdDelvien: a week!!!! thats great!!04:00
Delvienlol04:00
mustard5Delvien, your not alone ;)04:00
rixthI need to trace everything httpd does to the filesystem04:00
DShepherdDelvien: so wat are you complaining about...!!04:00
egon_spenglerDelvien, Did you issue a command to rm -r a SPECIFIC directory on the Desktop?04:00
yucelhii04:00
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Delvienno i hit enter by accident on Desktop04:01
Delviensudo rm -r /home/dm/Desktop/04:01
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DShepherdDelvien: a week is great recovery time....remember last week...04:01
DShepherd?04:01
Delvienthe file i want to delete i cant even sudo rm -r  it04:01
shea_!-gpgerr04:01
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, shea_04:01
shea_!gpgerr04:01
ubotuit has been said that gpgerr is If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*04:01
sazwerxhow to change the splashscreen?04:02
DShepherdsazwerx: system- prefs- splash04:02
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WhyvasLTwhere do you change the default app that opens a certain file extension04:02
WhyvasLT?04:02
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mustard5WhyvasLT, right click on the file and choose properties and go to the open with tab04:03
shea_why do I get a gpgerr I just installed...04:03
ObsidiansWhat does this error mean? "glxgears: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"?04:03
sazwerxDShepherd, cant find it..04:03
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shea_and, there are none of those files ubotu references.04:03
devintcan anybody tell me how i can set up my computer to be a dns server on a local network?04:03
shea_And, I changed from ca.blah, to just blah04:03
mustard5WhyvasLT, if you are talking about totem then its more complex04:03
DShepherdsazwerx: are you using ubuntu?04:03
shea_come on.04:03
Mocowhy cn't I compile anything?04:03
Delvienhttp://pastebin.ca/2945804:03
sazwerxDShepherd, yes..04:03
WhyvasLTno04:04
Delvienanyone help with that?04:04
sazwerxDShepherd, i cant find the splash menu on Preferences menu04:04
WhyvasLTthere's an open with, but no option to always open with that app04:04
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DShepherdsazwerx: that's weird...it should be right there04:04
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DelvienDshepherd http://pastebin.ca/29458 how do i chown it?04:04
shea_now its gone...go figure.04:04
DShepherdWhyvasLT: click the Add button and search for the app04:04
rightc0astDelvien, ouch :(, done it to like they said happens to everyone once04:04
shea_I said go figure!04:04
shea_why are you all still here?04:05
shea_sorry, jj.04:05
shea_later.:P04:05
Delviencan someone tell me the command to chown a root file to me (dm)?04:05
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_jasonDelgul, sudo chown dm.dm filename04:06
DShepherdDelvien: chown <user> <file>04:06
fevoldj2I'm in System Settings and I'm trying to setup directory sharing, but the samba menu won't strech out all the way...04:06
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sazwerxDShepherd, solved! it's in the "gTweakUI-Session" menu..04:07
MocoI am not able to ./configure anything. I keep getting GCC errors..04:07
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DShepherdsazwerx: ok You installed GtweakUI and it changed up the menus?04:07
mustard5Moco, have you installed build-essential?04:08
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Delvienno matter what i do i cant remove this file, even running as root....04:08
Delvienhttp://pastebin.ca/2945804:08
Mocomustard, let me check04:08
mustard5Delvien, it has read only permissions04:08
Delvienhow do i change that?04:08
sazwerxDShepherd, yeah.. maybe.. ^^04:08
DShepherdDelvien: try sudo chown <user> <file>04:08
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DShepherdsazwerx: k, I didnt know that04:08
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DelvienDshepherd i did , still giving me that04:08
runedude_ok, i tried another thing i read bout on google.. it didnt work either04:08
mustard5Delvien, do a chmod +w filename I think04:08
runedude_whatever i do, ubuntu isnt working as a router04:09
sazwerxDShepherd, it's ok.. thanks, bro04:09
runedude_so, is there anyway to do this? i know someone has? i dont really want responses such as "buy a router" because im trying to be out of the blue here :( i just want to make my own router04:09
fukngruvhello I ran apt-get install joystick but I am still having problems getting joystick to work any pointers?04:09
Mocolooks like I didn't.. but i was working a few days ago. That may be the problem..04:09
DShepherdDelvien: didnt you said you deleted your Desktop?04:10
DShepherdsaid-say*04:10
runedude_i read a tutorial (i later figured out it was made for 4.10) and it didnt work04:10
Delvienmustard5 wont let me change permissions, and wont let me delete it04:10
DelvienDshepherd yes04:10
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fevoldj2Hi04:10
fevoldj2Is there an app with a gui to configure samba?04:10
mustard5DShepherd, the file that he wanted to delete on Desktop had read only permissions04:10
runedude_time for webmin, i guess04:10
fukngruvcan anyone help me install my joystick in ubuntu04:10
DShepherdDelvien: so why are you deleting a file that is supposed to be in your Desktop directory04:11
Red-Soxvarsendagger ?04:11
Delvienand wont let me change those permissions..04:11
pztaki'm trying to resize an unmounted fat32 drive (external usb) using gparted... and after running for a long while i got an error that it can't perform the operation.. any ideas?04:11
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MocoThanks mustard5, I'm such a noob. Installed it and it is working now. Thanks!04:11
DelvienDsphepherd thats the thing , i deleted Desktop supposidly, but it didnt delete the file, it deleted EVERYTHING else in the Desktop04:11
mustard5Moco, no problem, its a common question04:11
DShepherdDelvien: oh...I hope you dont mind this.....KOOL!!04:12
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fukngruvCan sombody help out a newbie one more time?04:12
pztakfukngruv, i can try04:12
DelvienDshepherd did exactly the opposite of what i was trying to do04:12
DelvienDshepherd but now i cant delete the god damn file04:12
fukngruvthanks man i used apt get to install my joystick but I still can't get it to work04:12
mustard5Delvien, you still logged in as root?04:13
DShepherdDelvien: easy with the swearing04:13
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mustard5Delvien, I have a suggestion for you, but you need to use gksudo04:13
pztakfukngruv, i'm sorry, i have never tried setting up a joystick.. did you check dmesg to see what's going on?04:13
fukngruvno one sec04:13
fukngruvsyntax?04:13
MocoProbably corrupted Delvien04:13
mustard5Delvien, have you made you .Desktop directory again?04:13
DShepherdDelvien: do a ls -al in the directory and tell me the owner of the file04:14
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devintcan anybody PLEASE tell me how to get my computer to be a dns server on my local network?04:14
runedude_devint: bind04:14
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EloraKunHi. Which script/application may I run in order to modify my /boot/grub/menu.lst? I am trying to add eLive as an option for booting04:14
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ilba7rit seem that the lib path for java is improper after installing sun Java Jre2 any one know where to correct that?04:14
Delvienmustard5 it wasnt deleted, it couldnt because it could not delete the file in the desktop that is read only04:14
pztakEloraKun, you can use gedit or nano04:15
_jasonEloraKun, any text editor04:15
mustard5Delvien, log out of root and use gksudo nautilus04:15
ksmurfgday all .  is there an easy way to turn a tar.gz into a deb?04:15
DShepherdDelvien: who owns the file that your are trying to delete04:15
DelvienDshepherd in the file i was trying to remove or desktop04:15
fukngruvtells me my game port speed and stuff not sure what I'm looking for04:15
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mustard5Delvien, that will open nautilus with root privileges04:15
EloraKun_jason: I know, but I cannot find initrd.img, so I hope an automated process can do the trick04:15
DShepherdDShepherd: the file04:15
DelvienDshepherd Konqueror for me hehe under KDE04:15
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mustard5Delvien, oh..ok04:16
mustard5Delvien, then my advice is no good04:16
devintrunedude_: through gnome though?04:16
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mustard5Delvien, I was assuming you used gnome04:16
DShepherdDelvien: huh? Iam asking you who owns the file04:16
etzerdhey all04:16
ice9does anyone use k3b ?04:17
DShepherdetzerd: hey04:17
etzerdis there any new version  of Ubuntu recently04:17
fukngruvwhy does my dmesg say I have no high mem available?04:17
fukngruvreads my ram as lomem is that normal?04:17
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DelvienDshepherd one sec04:17
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ice9I get an error when trying to burn says cdrecord doesn;'t have permissions to open device04:17
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DShepherdetzerd: yes ubuntu breezy04:17
DShepherdDelvien: ok04:17
ice9can someone help pls04:17
EloraKunSo my question is: which script does ubuntu call when asked to configure boot loader?04:17
DelvienDshepherd root does.04:17
mustard5ksmurf, there is a way instead of doing a make install I think you do a checkinstall04:17
etzerdubuntu breezy04:17
mustard5!checkinstall04:17
ubotumethinks checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall04:17
etzerdwhere can I download that04:17
fukngruvcan someone tell me somthing?04:17
mustard5ksmurf, see that link from ubotu?04:18
etzerdsince when it is out04:18
runedude_hmm04:18
runedude_devint: no04:18
DShepherdDelvien: ok....so you can sudo chown dm <filename> <-- with the brackets04:18
runedude_through a terminal04:18
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DShepherdetzerd: trying www.ubuntulinux.org04:18
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runedude_why cant ubuntu work as a router? do i need to spend more money to just buy a  2nd router for 2 computers usage?04:19
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ksmurfmustard thanks04:19
DelvienDshepherd r04:19
DelvienDshepherd bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('04:19
DShepherdDelvien: I mean without the brackts04:19
DShepherdsrry ;)04:19
Rubinrunedude: ubuntu routes just fine04:19
DShepherdbrackets*04:19
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Rubinrunedude: linux is linux04:19
mustard5ksmurf, is it a source or binary install?04:19
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runedude_Rubin: not for me, it doesnt04:19
runedude_for me, im having so many problems with it.. its annoying :\04:19
DelvienDshepherd chown: changing ownership of `/home/dm/Desktop/Mount-ISO (Photoshop 7.0.ISO)': Read-only file system04:20
mustard5ksmurf, I think it needs to be source for checkinstall anyway...I've never used it, just heard of it04:20
Rubinrunedude: thats too bad, routing can be complex to configure04:20
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runedude_Rubin: so theres no HOWTOS to do it?04:20
DShepherdDelvien: your filesystem is read-only.....04:20
runedude_easy ones, that arent so difficult to understand?04:20
firestormHi all. I don't want the module 'cdc_acm' to auto-load when I plug in my mobile phone via USB...is there a way to disable this module from auto-loading?04:20
DelvienDshepherd ? what does that mean?04:20
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DShepherdYour filesystem is mounted as read-only04:21
sethkfirestorm, rename it04:21
DShepherdDelvien: Your filesystem is mounted as read-only04:21
DelvienDshepherd its on my root.. how can it be read only?04:21
Rubinrunedude: theres tons. and tools to help. but since every routing situation is different its hard to make it simple04:21
DShepherdDelvien: I dont know04:21
sethkRubin is very correct.  Routing is actually amazingly complex.04:21
jrattner1is there anyway to make my music player play a minute of each song in my collection?04:21
sethkalthough much of the complexity is in router configuration.04:21
mustard5DShepherd, partitions mount as read-only when they have encountered errors...would that be it?04:21
DelvienDshepherd /sigh this is disturbing.. im about to smash my HD with a hammer04:21
holy_cowrouting is also fragile04:21
runedude_yes, sethk , but even if it is complex, theres gotta be some way to do it without too much hassle04:22
Rubinjrattner1: write a script that controls xmms maybe04:22
holy_cowyou can be 99.9999% correct and not know it04:22
firestormsethk: how do you mean rename it? where should it be renamed?04:22
runedude_i just want to be able to connect to the internet through my ubuntu machine.. thats all04:22
DShepherdDelvien: can you see any other thing in the Desktop directory?04:22
holy_cowbecause the .000001% error will break it04:22
DShepherdDelvien: ls -al04:22
sethkfirestorm, it is in the /lib/modules/####   tree  (the ### is the kernel version you are running)04:22
Rubinrunedude: i think some tools try to make it easy.. firestarter has an option (but its not necessarily reccomended)04:22
sethkfirestorm, but if you rename it, it will never be able to load,04:22
sethkfirestorm, which may not be what you want.04:22
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firestormsethk: thought there would have been a cleaner solution? what if I comment out the line in /etc/modules.d/aliases?04:23
DelvienDShepherd04:23
sethkfirestorm, the problem with that is it may still load because of a dependency04:23
DelvienDShepherd http://pastebin.ca/2946304:23
MocoSorry to ask another stupid question, but now the compiler is saying ncurses needs to be installed. I checked and all of it is installed. I'm confused..04:23
sethkfirestorm, it is a hack solution, but it is effective.  :)04:23
sethkMoco, that sometimes means that an earlier version of curses is needed04:23
DShepherdDelvien: oh :)04:24
firestormsethk: there is no file cdc_acm under any subdir of /lib/modules/<kernel-ver>04:24
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MocoWhere can thes be obtained, sethk?04:24
DShepherdDelvien: your kool04:24
Mocothese04:24
sethkfirestorm, it will be something like cdc_acm.ko04:24
DelvienDShepherd why?04:24
sethkfirestorm, look for *cdc_acm*04:24
DShepherdDelvien: you see there's no w's -- meaning....root cant write04:24
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DShepherdDelvien: or anyone for that matter04:25
firestormsethk: no such luck I'm afraid...even did a sudo updatedb; locate cdc_acm and got no results04:25
runedude_has any person here.. every been able to connect to their ubuntu machine through a windows computer, and have almost like XP's Internet Connection Sharing?04:25
Delvienso im screwed?04:25
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mustard5Delvien, no04:25
snausageshow long does it take for the CDs to arrive if it shipit says "sent to shipping company"04:25
DShepherdDelvien: nah.. all you need to do is chmod04:25
sethkrunedude_, you need the name listed from lsmod04:25
DShepherdDelvien: know how to use that command?04:25
runedude_what name, sethk ?04:25
DelvienDshepherd not really,04:25
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runedude_ipt_MASQUERADE ?04:25
sethkrunedude_, I don't know, as I don't have that module.  But lsmod lists the names of the modules that are loaded, and those names correspond to files in /lib/modules/whatever04:26
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runedude_mmmm04:26
DShepherdDelvien: sudo chmod +w <filename>04:26
runedude_how do i change one of them?04:26
sethkrunedude_, the kernel configuration will also tell you the module name, if you have it set up to run make xconfig04:26
mustard5Delvien, cd to Desktop  first04:26
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sethkrunedude_, you can sometimes do rmmod04:26
runedude_why would i do rmmod?04:26
runedude_if i want to use it?04:26
DShepherdDelvien: then sudo rm -rf <filename> ... be more careful this time04:27
sethkrunedude_, you said you don't want it to run, I thought04:27
Delvienchmod: changing permissions of `Mount-ISO (Photoshop 7.0.ISO)': Read-only file system04:27
runedude_no, i do04:27
runedude_i want to get onto the internet through my ubuntu router04:27
mustard5Delvien, its sound like your hard drive has errors and has remounted as read only04:27
DShepherdDelvien: now...that's bad04:27
Delvienomg..04:27
Delvienkill me04:27
sethkrunedude_, sorry I got two conversations mixed.  I have built routers.  tell me your problem?04:27
mustard5Delvien, you are going to need a liveCD to run fsck on that partition04:27
DShepherdmustard5: no necessarily,,, maybe a reboot will sort out things04:28
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runedude_sethk: ok. my ubuntu router has a wireless connection (works fine, im irssing through it right now), and i have a windows pc across the room.. i need to connect to my ubuntu pc and be able to use the internet through my windows computer04:28
Delvienmustard5 how do i access my root on my hd from LiveCD04:28
DShepherdmustard5: Delvien it should do a fsck on reboot04:28
mustard5Delvien, yeah reboot might fix it04:28
Delvienor can i just run recovery ?04:28
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Delvienlemme try it04:29
DShepherdDelvien: try a reboot04:29
DShepherdok04:29
mustard5DShepherd, lets hope he gets back :)04:29
runedude_sethk: kinda like the "internet connection sharing" implementation in XP.04:29
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DShepherdmustard5: man..I hope he gets thru..he seems to be having a really bad dat04:29
DShepherddaY*04:29
DShepherdmustard5: I hope so too04:29
sethkrunedude, you mean you want the windows box to be on the same subnet as the ubuntu box, and have the ubuntu box have the internet connection through a separate NIC?04:30
runedude_sethk: yes04:30
sethkrunedude_, ok, I probably missed you having already checked common stuff, so apologies if this is repetitive ...04:30
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sethkrunedude_, you have ip forwarding enabled?04:30
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purplefeltangelanyone know of an msn client other than Gaim?04:31
runedude_sethk: im sorry, im not a good explainer.. and really i am not sure if i do04:31
mustard5purplefeltangel, amsn04:31
sethkrunedude_, run this:   sysctl -a | grep -i forward04:31
purplefeltangelmustard5 thank you04:31
runedude_ok04:31
runedude_hmm04:31
DShepherdmustard5: have you ever used amsn?04:31
runedude_it returns quite alot04:31
sethkrunedude_, that will show you the state of several kernel forwariding switches04:31
sethkrunedude_, let me get you the exact name, then04:31
runedude_let me try something here04:31
mustard5DShepherd, never..I like GAIM :)04:31
DShepherdmustard5: same here04:32
runedude_eth0 == my ethernet cable connection connecting 2 computers, ra0 == my internet04:32
DShepherdmustard5: using it now04:32
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mustard5DShepherd, I've got multiple IM accounts04:32
sethkrunedude_, one thing at a time.  :)  You want to look at net.ipv4.ip_forward04:32
DShepherdmustard5: same here04:32
runedude_ok04:32
sethkrunedude_, it should say   = 104:32
runedude_it says =004:32
runedude_:\ hmm..04:32
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runedude_i swear i set these things to 104:33
pudland?? Is anyone familiar Microchip's MPLAB??04:33
runedude_sethk: how can i change it to 1?04:33
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sethkrunedude_, sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=104:33
Delvienmustard5 a reboot fixed it04:33
sethkrunedude_, with sudo, unless you are root04:33
runedude_nvm, got it04:33
Delvienmustard5 now to rebuild my 2,000 mp3 files...04:34
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runedude_ok04:34
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pudland?? Embedded Programming MPLAB anyone??04:34
runedude_so i need to change the others?04:34
alekzwich pkg should i install to burn mp3 files to wav ?04:34
alekzk3b-mp3 ?04:34
jrsimsembedded ubuntu? is there such a thing?04:34
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mustard5Delvien, glad to hear the reboot fixed it04:34
bob832hi there everyone04:34
sethkrunedude_, no, just that one.  assuming you aren't running ipv604:35
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runedude_nope04:35
runedude_no ipv6..04:35
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runedude_hm... so, just reboot the windows machine and it should work?04:35
sethkrunedude_, the others are for lower level stuff04:35
sethkrunedude_, you shouldn't need to reboot04:35
runedude_hmm04:35
sethkrunedude_, but we haven't checked everything yet04:35
runedude_ok04:35
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sethkrunedude_, is the ubuntu box the default gateway for the windows box?04:35
ilba7ri remeber there were an entry in the gnome menu to set java under system anyone know which package to install to have that?04:35
runedude_yes sethk04:35
meeferAnyone know how to make Thunderbird DL all messages, not just new ones?04:36
pudlandI use WINXP I'm trying out UBUNTU04:36
sethkrunedude_, ok, and ubuntu is already working to the net - you are talking to me on it.04:36
runedude_sethk: yes04:36
runedude_im sshed to the ubuntu box04:37
runedude_thru my windows computer using putty04:37
pudlandDoes UBUNTU have a MICROCHIP (PIC) TOOL04:37
Xenguypudland: what is its function?04:37
sethkrunedude_, ok.  let's test the windows box.  If it doesn't work, try doing a tracert from the windows box04:37
meeferPlease stop with the caps, unless its an acronymn04:37
sethkrunedude_, tracert is the poor man's traceroute you'll find in windows04:37
runedude_ok04:38
sethkrunedude_, unless cygwin is installed, in which case you'll have a real traceroute04:38
pudlandPIC programmer in LIEW of MPLAB04:38
pudlandLIE*04:38
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Xenguypudland: what is its function?04:38
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runedude_so where should i tracert to?04:38
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meeferAnyone know how to make Thunderbird DL all messages? not just the new ones04:39
runedude_fyi: 192.168.0.1 == ubuntu router 192.168.1.1 == my real router04:39
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sethkrunedude, anything on the 'net.  freenode, for example   (irc.freenode.net)04:39
pudlandMPLAB is the TOOL microchip provides for there chip programmers04:39
Eternalistwhatup04:39
runedude_ok04:39
runedude_well04:39
sethkrunedude, first try the traceroute from the command line in ubuntu, to make sure that it should work04:39
meefer?04:39
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Xenguypudland: you're not getting it :-)04:39
meeferDoesnt anyone use Thunderbird?04:39
pudlandBasically I  need MPLAB to run in LINUX...04:39
runedude_yes, traceroute to irc.freenode.net works on ubuntu04:40
mcjerryi installed amd64.iso, then followed How-To: 2.6.14 Vanilla Kernel (latest) + ck Patchset here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84174&highlight=vanillaand am having trouble with sta hard drive04:40
runedude_but on the winblows pc it returns "Cannot find host"04:40
runedude_or w/e04:40
Xenguypudland: never heard of it; WINE may be worth looking into.  You need google this one me thinks04:40
runedude_and I know im using my ISP nameserver04:40
pudlandXenguy: Thanks much04:41
sethkrunedude_, try it by ip04:41
runedude_i did, it returns destination host failed or w/e04:41
sethkrunedude_, separate the name server issues from the routing issues04:41
runedude_destination host unreachable04:41
mcjerryspecifically, in original insall dev/sda1 is windows partition ntfs,  and dev/sdb1 is ntfs partition for storage04:41
sethkrunedude_, do "route print" on the windows box04:41
Xenguypudland: HTH04:41
runedude_ok04:42
runedude_just a sec, brb04:42
mcjerryI could access both sda1 and sdb1 after original install, but cannot access sdb1 after new kernel install04:42
mcjerrywhe?04:42
pztakany ideas:04:42
pztak[4382745.367000]  SCSI error : <4 0 0 0> return code = 0x800000204:42
pztak[4382745.367000]  sda: Current: sense key: Hardware Error04:42
pztak[4382745.367000]      Additional sense: Data phase error04:42
pztak[4382745.367000]  end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 33797456004:42
pztak[4382745.367000]  Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 4224682004:42
sethkrunedude, do you have any iptables configuration on the ubuntu box that may be causing the problem?04:43
sethkpztak, what kind of device?04:43
Xenguypztak: we generally ignore people who flood04:43
pztakit's an external usb drive04:43
pztaki was running gparted trying to resize it04:43
purplefeltangelhow come firefox is trying to open JPG images in Image Viewer instead of just in the browser?04:43
pztakand i'm getting a lot of I/O errors now..04:43
runedude_sethk: ok, should i paste it somewhere?04:43
sethkpztak, parted does funky stuff.04:43
pztakas well as: [4376237.404000]  ide: failed opcode was: unknown04:43
runedude_i know not to in here04:44
sethkrunedude, sure, put it on a paste bot, let's see it.04:44
runedude_mmm04:44
Xenguyrunedude_: see /topic04:44
runedude_sethk: can i query you with it? i cant get to the pastebin without firefox working :(04:44
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runedude_Xenguy: i know what a pastebin is, and i know where to find it :\04:45
sethkrunedude, sure04:45
runedude_i just cant access it without using firefox04:45
Xenguyrunedude_: then you don't really need to announce that to me, do you :-)04:46
pztakthis is really strange, i see a lot of IO errors in dmesg and i'm worried something is really screwed up.. i also see hdc packet command error? i dont understand how hdc is involve with parted..04:46
XRangedoes anyonne have problem with "gksudo" locking up the screen ?04:46
pztakand FAT: bread failed04:46
DShepherdrunedude can use any other browser too04:46
mcjerrycan anyone help me with ntfs drive access problem on dev/sdb104:46
runedude_ugh04:46
runedude_ok sethk just a sec04:46
runedude_gotta identify, heh04:46
pztak[4365714.794000]  scsi2 (0:0): rejecting I/O to dead device04:47
pztak   ---- what's going on? i can still mount the drive and all.. should i be worried?04:47
DShepherdmcjerry: ask your question and someone will try and help04:47
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mcjerryi installed amd64.iso, then followed How-To: 2.6.14 Vanilla Kernel (latest) + ck Patchset here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84174&highlight=vanillaand am having trouble with sta hard drive04:47
mcjerryspecifically, in original insall dev/sda1 is windows partition ntfs,  and dev/sdb1 is ntfs partition for storage04:47
mcjerryI could access both sda1 and sdb1 after original install, but cannot access sdb1 after new kernel install04:47
sethkmcjerry, you have to enable ntfs in the kernel config04:48
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mcjerrydev/sda1 is ntfs partition and I am able to access it04:48
mcjerryntfs read enabled in kernel config04:49
rabeldable!wiki04:49
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rabeldableanyone here know what type of wiki the ubuntu documentation is maintained with?04:50
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Madpilotrabeldable: it's called MoinMoin...04:50
mcjerrymade a /media/storage directory and placed correct line in /etc/fstab04:51
mcjerrythen typed04:51
mcjerrymcjerry@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -a04:52
mcjerrymount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media/storage busy04:52
mcjerrygot above error04:52
mcjerry?04:52
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mcjerrynothing else could have been using storage directory as it was just made prior04:52
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sethkmcjerry, you tried an ls to make sure it is, in fact, not mounted?04:53
GTroy!source.list04:53
ubotuGTroy: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?04:53
GTroy!sources.list04:53
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic04:53
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mcjerryls no results, in gnome - system - disk manager, can see sdb1 but will not enable04:54
mcjerrytried both gui and console can't mount04:54
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sethkmcjerry, are you sure the kernel is built with ntfs support?  Sorry if I already asked that.04:56
PokerFacePenguinPokerFacePenguin is on ice for a while04:57
ULffuntuWhy is it possible to write to an SMBfs that is NTFS but not an actual NTFS mount?04:58
Eternalistyou can write to an SMBfs?04:58
ULffuntuyeah04:58
Eternalistwow04:58
Eternalistive used it for reading mostly04:58
Eternalisti keep music on windows PC04:58
ULffuntuI stream MP3s :)04:58
Eternalistlinux is only good for h4x0rzing04:58
ULffuntufrom a xp box04:58
Eternalistyeh same04:58
DShepherddoes burning photo cd allow multi-sessions burning using nautilus04:58
sethkULffuntu, because the NTFS file system is proprietary, microsoft won't release the details, and the driver doesn't know how to extend a file.04:58
Eternalisti do the same thing with xbox04:58
mcjerryyes, ntfs read only support and am able to read /dev/sda1 which is xp ntfs partition04:59
Eternaliststream files from an xp box04:59
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ULffuntudoesn't answer the q04:59
Eternalistmcjerry, thats all you need really04:59
Eternalistwhat do you want to write to an xp partition anyway?04:59
Eternalistim trying to think of something and i honestly cant.04:59
mcjerryls -l /dev/sd*04:59
Eternalisti only need to access files on xp sometimes like my music and pictures.04:59
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mcjerrybrw-rw----  1 root disk 8,  0 2005-11-19 17:00 /dev/sda05:00
mcjerrybrw-rw----  1 root disk 8,  1 2005-11-19 17:00 /dev/sda105:00
mcjerrybrw-rw----  1 root disk 8,  2 2005-11-19 17:00 /dev/sda205:00
mcjerrybrw-rw----  1 root disk 8,  3 2005-11-19 17:00 /dev/sda305:00
mcjerrybrw-rw----  1 root disk 8,  5 2005-11-19 17:00 /dev/sda505:00
mcjerrybrw-rw----  1 root disk 8, 16 2005-11-19 17:00 /dev/sdb05:00
mcjerrybrw-rw----  1 root disk 8, 17 2005-11-19 17:00 /dev/sdb105:00
Eternalistheck i even got cs source working on here05:00
Eternalistmcjerry, pastebin.com05:00
Eternalistif its more than 3-4 lines, don't paste it in here05:00
dabaRalso, dont use enter too much05:00
Eternalistif theres a newline it automaticlly puts it on a newline05:00
Eternalistlol05:01
mcjerry 1862.630294]  NTFS driver 2.1.24 [Flags: R/O MODULE] .05:01
mcjerry[ 1862.716172]  NTFS volume version 3.1.05:01
mcjerry[ 1897.377988]  Warning: /proc/ide/hd?/settings interface is obsolete, and will be removed soon!05:01
dabaRI meant you.05:01
Madpilot!pastebin05:01
ubotuI heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:01
EternalistdabaR, why does it matter?05:01
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Eternalistit was 3 lines05:01
DShepherdmcjerry: quit..!! pasting05:01
DShepherddoes burning photo cd allow multi-sessions burning using nautilus ?05:02
dabaREternalist: it is just that it makes questions scroll off the screen faster, keep one thought in one line. Also, when people ask a question in several lines you have to piece together what they said, and so, not a biggie in your case...05:02
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ULffuntuEternalist: whaz your favorite XP m3u lister?05:02
mcjerrysethk, did that answer your question?05:02
pztakI keep on getting:05:02
pztak[4384048.778000]  SCSI error : <4 0 0 0> return code = 0x800000205:02
pztak[4384048.778000]  sda: Current: sense key: Hardware Error05:02
pztak[4384048.778000]      Additional sense: Data phase error05:02
pztak05:02
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dabaR!paste05:03
ubotufrom memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text05:03
pztakafter running parted.. now when i try to copy data05:03
sethkmcjerry, it works with one partition, but not with the other, both are ntfs partitions?05:03
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pztakfrom my usb disk.. does that mean it's dying?05:03
mcjerrysethk, correct05:03
XRangedoes anyonne have problem with "gksudo" locking up the screen are locking period?05:03
sethkmcjerry, does it matter whether or not the first is mounted, when you try the second?05:04
dabaRXRange: you do.05:04
mcjerrybrb, will umount and see05:04
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XRangei wouldn't asked if it wasn't05:05
bob832if i edit a file in /proc, do i have to restart before the changes take effect?05:05
ULffuntuXRange: Ctl-Alt-F105:05
ULffuntuthen maybe killall nautilus05:05
pztakcan anyone pls help with this weird I/O and other device errors i'm getting all of the sudden with my external usb disk?05:05
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ULffuntupztak tell me05:06
ULffuntuI'm booting off USB05:06
XRangeULffuntu : why not just clt, alt, backspace05:06
ULffuntuyeah05:06
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pztakULffuntu, alright, basically, it's a fat32 filesystem.. i tried using gparted to resize it and make an ext3 filesystem for backup (using rsync and incremental backup because vfat doesnt support hardlinks)05:07
dabaRbob832: what file did you edit?05:07
pztakULffuntu, it gave me an error after a few hrs, i can paste the dmesg in pm or whereever you'd like05:07
bob832/proc/asound/card0/oss_mixer05:07
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pztakULffuntu, i can mount it, but i keep on getting weird Data phase errors and looking back i see device errors during gparted..05:07
mcjerrysethk, umount'd /dev/sda1, then commented out fstab line for that partition, then mount -a05:07
mcjerrymount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media/storage busy05:08
pztakULffuntu, something about rejecting IO because it's a 'dead device'05:08
bob832still trying to get my volume keys to change PCM instead of master  :-)05:08
mcjerrysame error05:08
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keeb!font05:08
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, keeb05:08
sethkmcjerry, did you try mounting it somewhere else?  just make a directory somewhere05:08
keebguys i have a question about ubuntu05:08
ULffuntupztak: did you get my PM?05:08
pztakULffuntu, no i didnt ??05:08
keebwhy is the text in the UI so huge even at a low resolution?05:08
DShepherdkeeb: dont we all05:08
ULffuntulemme try again05:08
keebhigh resolution**05:08
keebi am running 1600x1200 and the text is abnormally large05:09
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keebin system - pref - fonts .. it shows all sizes at 805:09
keebon website's it is perfect/what i would expect05:09
keebso i am unsure why text seems to be so huge05:09
XRangehow does one downgrade a package05:09
ULffuntupztak: trying opening a dialog box to me :)05:10
pztakULffuntu, i just tried.. did you get it? sorry, i'm new to X-Chat..05:10
DShepherdkeeb: try clicking details and see what dpi is set at05:10
ULffuntudo a right-click on my name and see if it gives you options05:10
mcjerrysethk, no luck mounting directory /test05:10
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pztakULffuntu, yes, i have open dialog window.. i did, and i sent a test message05:11
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keebthanks for that05:11
anavimhow do I change the look and feel of Konsole when I'm running gnome?05:11
keebmuch better jesus christ05:11
DShepherdkeeb: np05:11
ULffuntuoh shoot they are blocking pms hold on05:11
DShepherdkeeb: no swearing man05:11
mcjerrysethk, same error05:11
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pztakah, i have to register the nick05:12
keebi wasnt aware i was swearing05:12
keebbut, no problem ;)05:12
DShepherdkeeb: :) kool, now rule the world05:12
DShepherdkeeb: with linux that is05:12
DShepherd:)05:12
sethkmcjerry, I assume that if you boot the system into windows, windows sees both partitions?05:12
mcjerrysethk, yes, definitely, made sure of that05:13
mcjerry 1862.630294]  NTFS driver 2.1.24 [Flags: R/O MODULE] .05:13
mcjerrymcjerry [ 1862.716172]  NTFS volume version 3.1.05:13
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mcjerrymeans NTFS module compiled correctly?05:13
pztakULffuntu, i registered my nick.. can you see my messages now?05:13
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sethkmcjerry, you can mount one of the partitions.  so the kernel works05:13
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ULffuntugot it05:14
ULffuntupztak: do you see me?05:14
pztakULffuntu, I don't see your messages.. is your nick registered?05:15
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mcjerryk, so how troubleshoot /dev/sdb1 ??05:15
sethkmcjerry, did you answer my question about seeing both from windows?05:16
keeb:D05:16
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bob832well, that didn't work  :-)05:17
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mcjerrysethk, yes, definitely both drives working in windows, made sure of it05:18
Terminusmcjerry, is that just one disk? how did you mount the other partition?05:18
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Cartesian1984how can you make linux do a disk check on boot?05:18
mcjerryboth drives mounting correctly prior to kernel update05:18
mcjerryTerminus, two seperate SATA drives, sda and sdb05:19
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sethkmcjerry, can you run the old kernel, and still mount both?05:19
mcjerrysda1 windows partition ntfs, and sdb1 storage ntfs partition, sda1 reading, sdb1 not05:19
mcjerrysethk, yes05:19
Terminusmcjerry, oh... i see. thought it was two partitions on one drive. hmmm...05:19
sethkmcjerry, ok, then I take back what I said about it not being a kernel issue.  :)05:20
sethkmcjerry, try killing the automounter05:20
dabaRSeveas: ping05:20
ecobuntu!javadebs05:20
ubotujavadebs is probably at Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/05:20
mcjerrysethk, relearning linux, last used in 2001, what is command to kill automounter?05:20
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sethkmcjerry, find it with ps aux, then kill it with kill05:21
jrsimsI LOVE UBUNTU!05:21
sethkmcjerry, I'm thinking that there is some pathelogical interaction among automount, udev, and mount05:21
ecobuntuyeah ubuntu is great05:22
bob832jrsims:  thats what i said when i installed it05:22
bob832lol05:22
ecobuntudapper is pretty sweet...but not much different than breezy right now05:22
dabaRecobuntu: was that for me?05:23
ecobuntudabaR: no did you ask about it?05:23
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anavimecobuntu, other than being unstable05:23
dabaRnope.05:23
MacUsrHello?05:23
ecobuntuanavim: doesn't seem to unstable to me05:23
jrsimshave you guys tried Nexenta yet? I heard it's going to kill ubuntu.05:23
dabaRMacUsr: are you asking?05:23
MacUsrWill Ubuntu ever be compatible with AirPort Extreme cards?05:23
dabaRjrsims: hah05:24
jrsims:)05:24
dabaRMacUsr: broadcom has not released the specs.05:24
anavimMacUsr, you need a prism card... they're $15 on ebay05:24
bob832nope05:24
anavimMacUsr, prism54.org05:24
mcjerrysethk, do not see automount?05:24
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sethkit may be triggered by hotswap code05:25
ecobuntuNexenta OS now there's an unstable distro ;)05:25
anavimMacUsr, and don't make the mistake of getting a card with the wrong FCC ID.  That's your only guarantee it's a real prism card05:25
sethkmcjerry, the fact that it is complaining about /media/storage means that it is trying to use the same resource for both partitions.05:25
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sethkmcjerry, you might want to look at your udev config05:25
DShepherddo nautilus do multisession burning?05:25
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DShepherddoes nautilus do multisession burning?05:26
sethkmcjerry, I did see something similar when I upgraded a kernel05:26
MacUsrThanks. Bye05:26
anavimecobuntu, dapper is in development, so accidents do happen  :)05:26
BigKahunaHow can I vew what processes are running using the cli?05:26
mcjerrypath to udev config?05:26
sethkmcjerry, it turned out the previous kernel was using the sata chipset in ide compatible mode, and the newer kernel was not.05:26
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Communist_FireFoHello all05:27
anavimthe best thing about the prism cards is their range is 3x the airport extreme card  :D05:27
ecobuntuanavim: i know...that's why i am running breezy as my principal desktop...btw i've used sid for a while so i am use to bugs and crashes and being unable to start X05:27
Communist_FireFoI have a question to ask05:27
mcjerrysethk, i understand the logic of what you say, but am slow in relearning linux locations and such05:27
sethkmcjerry, it is also possible that this is simply a kernel bug, and you should just wait until it gets fixed.05:27
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anavimecobuntu: I can only take a certain amount of bleeding edge each year.. this year I've had my fill  :)05:28
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mcjerrysethk, where do i check udev config05:28
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sethkmcjerry, I have to check.  try man udev05:28
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ecobuntuyeah i'm sure i'll get bored with borken stuff05:28
ecobuntubroken05:29
anavimecobuntu, actually, I installed the 2.6.15 kernel yesterday and then reverted back to 2.6.12, and my networking doesn't start up on boot anymore05:29
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ecobuntui was helping someone earlier shrink their windows partition on their parents computer...i hope they didn't screw up ;)05:30
CFFThe question I want to ask is this. I just got my Brezzy CD's on friday. But I turn on the computer - it does not bring up the boot prompt - but goes straight into the LILO loader of my current Linux Mandrake05:30
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CFFI really want to install Ubuntu - what can I do?05:30
ecobuntuCFF: you have to press F12 maybe? or some function key05:30
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ecobuntuCFF: how do you boot from a cd?  y05:30
bur[n] erCFF: make sure your BIOS is set to boot from CD05:30
joeybIs there a gnome-panel config? I want autohide to hide 1px, or maybe 0... not the 5 or 6 is does now.05:30
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dabaR__sudo aptitude install k3b05:31
dabaR__pah05:31
CFFbur[n] er: I did - I just use this old Award BIOS and it says - CDROM, A, C05:31
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CFFAnd I use a older board05:31
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bur[n] erCFF: well... that should be about it... did you download breezy or were they shipped?05:32
CFFbur[n] er: they were shipped05:32
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dabaRfunk.05:33
bur[n] erCFF: try to reboot again... or use a different cd rom drive?05:33
CFFhmm..05:33
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penguinitushello all..05:33
joeybIs there a gnome-panel config? I want autohide to hide 1px, or maybe 0... not the 5 or 6 is does now.05:33
CFFbur[n] er: I only have this CD Burner05:33
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B_166-ER-Xwhy does ogle closes when trying to play some dvd's ? (originals)05:34
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penguinitusjust got a new amd64, I'm about to format the drive and get ubuntu up and going on it...just wondering if anyone can offer any info on what's to come05:34
thesporeI'm trying to install 'transcode' and it failed.. tried 'apt-get -f install' and i get 'error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/blah.lib trying to overwrite /usr/lib/blah.so.0.0.0, which is also in libfame0'05:34
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ecobuntusweet there is suspend in dapper...i'm afraid to try it though ;)05:34
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bur[n] erecobuntu: it's there in breezy as well no?05:35
dabaR__ecobuntu: just do not use it for a stable system...05:35
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joeybIs there a gnome-panel config? I want autohide to hide 1px, or maybe 0... not the 5 or 6 is does now.05:35
ecobuntuno just hibernate05:35
CFFbur[n] er: And every time I reboot, the prompt just does not come up05:35
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bur[n] erjoeyb: nothing I know of... try playing in gconf-editor05:35
ecobuntudabaR: yeah breezy is my main partition05:35
joeybThanks, I'll look05:35
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bur[n] erCFF: sucky man... can you boot other cds?05:35
ecobuntudabaR: definitely not a distro in development ;)05:36
CFFbur[n] er: No05:36
bur[n] erCFF: guess you're SOL05:36
CFFbur[n] er: SOL?05:36
bur[n] erCFF: unlucky05:36
penguinitus...anybody else running ubuntu amd64 kernel?05:36
dabaR__straight out of luck05:36
CFFbur[n] er: hmm05:36
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joeybbur[n] er, hmm, nothing.05:37
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CFFI am gathering up $170 so I have get the hardware to upgrade it05:37
bur[n] erjoeyb: i'm guessing the answer is "no" then, you can't change the autohide without doing some serious gnome-panel hacking05:37
joeybI found it.05:38
joeyb:D05:38
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joeybApps > Panel > Panel Name > AutoHideSize05:38
joeybThanks. :)05:38
CFFbur[n] er: This has been happening ever since I installed Linux Mandrake Download version!05:38
bur[n] erjoeyb: np :)  good work finding it05:38
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dabaR__joeyb: thanks for sharing too.05:38
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bur[n] erCFF: it made your cdrom not work?  I find that hard to believe05:39
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intelikeydo anybody know what might make a keyboard reset every x# seconds ?05:39
bur[n] erCFF: u sure the CD rom is plugged in correctly?  power and IDE?05:39
CFFbur[n] er: ye05:39
intelikeystandard kb05:39
CFFbur[n] er: *yes05:39
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GTroyhow do I set mplayer as default?05:40
CFFbur[n] er: Plus - through some weirdness - it fuck up the cdrom order - it has the CD Burner as the cdrom and the CD-ROM drive as "cdrom1"05:40
CFF*fucke05:40
CFF*fucked05:40
penguinituscan I just install the regular 32bit iso even though I have 64bit amd?05:40
Agrajagyes05:41
rabeldableplease verify this:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions05:41
intelikeyCFF bur[n] er what symptoms ?05:41
bur[n] erCFF: tried both cd roms to boot from?05:41
bur[n] erintelikey: CFF can't boot the breezy install cd that was shipped out to him05:41
bur[n] erer... him or her05:41
penguinituscool...I think I'll stick with 32 bit for now05:41
CFFbur[n] er: Him ;)05:42
LotsaCaboCan someone tell me why the repositories show "Blackdown" Java/JRE and not Sun?05:42
intelikeycff that would probably be bios settings.05:42
AgrajagLotsaCabo: because sun's jre isn't in the repositories.05:42
AgrajagIt can't be redistributed that way.05:42
LotsaCaboAgrajag, nice answer.  ;-)05:42
AgrajagYou can make your own java package easily.05:42
Agrajag!java05:42
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs05:42
CFFintelikey: I checked the BIOS settings and clearly it is set to CDROM, A, C05:43
LotsaCaboAgrajag, any major differences between Sun and Blackdown?05:43
AgrajagSun's a bit better compatibility-wise I guess05:43
GTroy!mplayer05:43
ubotufrom memory, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106105:43
intelikeyCFF does the bios say booting cdrom    or cdrom boot failed  or something ?05:43
CFFintelikey: cdrom05:43
bur[n] erCFF: try the other cd rom drive05:44
CFFbur[n] er: But that is the burner05:44
intelikeyso05:44
CFFbur[n] er: hmm05:45
thesporeanyone know why I am getting errors installing 'transcode' with apt-get?  Says error was encountered processing libfame-0.9_0.9.0-0.1_i386.deb05:45
bur[n] erthespore: because that file is in two packages... you can do a --force-overwrite05:46
LotsaCaboubotu, what is "!javadebs" ?05:46
intelikeythespore sudo apt-get clear(or clean or what ever it is)    and try again ?05:46
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, LotsaCabo05:46
CFFallow me to try - I will be back if anything happens05:46
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mustard5LotsaCabo, just type !javadebs05:46
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intelikeyCFF take notes on errors05:46
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CFFintelikey: allright05:47
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LotsaCabomustard5, within the IRC client or Ubuntu?  I'm new to both and have never seen anything begin with a bang.05:47
thesporebur[n] er.. what is the syntax for using that switch?05:47
mustard5LotsaCabo, in irc..  you can also pm ubotu using /msg ubotu javadebs05:48
bur[n] erthespore: dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/apt/archives/blah.deb05:48
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LotsaCabo!javadebs05:48
uboturumour has it, javadebs is at Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/05:48
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LotsaCaboOkay, I feel like a dumbass.05:48
mustard5LotsaCabo, use the private message function if you can05:48
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mustard5ubout: tell LotsaCabo about msgthebot05:49
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intelikeymy keyboard is still resetting periodicly,   any idea what might cause ?05:49
mustard5ubotu: tell LotsaCabo about msgthebot05:49
thesporebur[n] er, thanks.. worked!05:49
bur[n] erthespore: yer welcome05:49
LotsaCaboHmm... so "!javadebs" is a bot?05:50
bur[n] erLotsaCabo: ubotu is a bot05:50
intelikeyLotsaCabo no ! is a bot call ubotu is the bot05:50
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theconartistwhat should i use to install local .deb's?05:50
LotsaCaboBut, was I not just chatting with "ubotu?"05:51
intelikeydpkg -i05:51
Xenguytheconartist: dpkg -i05:51
bur[n] ertheconartist: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb05:51
mustard5LotsaCabo, he sort of talks to you yes :)05:52
intelikeyLotsaCabo if you were you probably really feel silly now.....05:52
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LotsaCaboOh, so the message I saw to me (ie. "from memory..." was an automated message.  Interesting.05:52
LotsaCaboMan, I'm such a noob.05:52
anavimLotsaCabo, it happens on here every day05:52
anavimLotsaCabo, ubotu just has a nice database05:53
LotsaCaboI have obviously spent too much time on M$.05:53
intelikeylol05:53
XenguyLotsaCabo: a bit different yes05:53
Xenguylinux I mean05:53
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intelikey                     >>>--------------|>    (0)05:54
GigaClonis there a way for ubuntu to blank my LCD panel on my laptop when i close the the lid?05:54
benplaut*click*05:54
Xenguybullseye05:54
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LotsaCaboGigaClon, that does not happen by default?05:55
GigaClonno05:55
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LotsaCaboGigaClon, well, I was just talking to a bot, so I'm the last guy that you'd want to talk to about that.  I just found it interesting.05:55
LotsaCaboI think next, I'm gonna go chat with my TV.05:56
intelikeyhmmm on mine there is a little presure switch that turns the light off when the lid closes....05:56
LotsaCaboI tried the DVD player, but he had an attitude problem.05:56
intelikey:)05:57
Azul_TejanoI am trying to install the SDL 1.2.4 package, and when I run ./configure, it says "cannot find SDL 1.2.4" which makes NO sense because that's what I'm trying to install.05:57
intelikeymicro-waves are not much on conversation either, but they heat up awefull fast.05:57
mustard5Azul_Tejano, are you in the correct working directory?05:57
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Azul_TejanoI believe so, I cd'ed to the right one..05:58
mustard5Azul_Tejano, spelt the name wrong?05:58
intelikeypwd05:58
LotsaCabointelikey: =)05:59
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intelikeyLotsaCabo we've all done that....    but it is a lessen you don't soon forget.06:00
xaduxI wanna know how can I close a window conversation in the irc from in the shell06:00
Azul_TejanoI don't thinks so.. I am06:00
rabeldable!perms06:00
uboturabeldable: Are you smoking crack?06:00
intelikey /part #blah06:00
intelikeyxadux ^06:01
Azul_TejanoIt says "The sdl-config script installed by SDL could not be found06:01
Azul_Tejano*** If SDL was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in06:01
Azul_Tejano*** your path, or set the SDL_CONFIG environment variable to the06:01
Azul_Tejano*** full path to sdl-config.06:01
Azul_Tejanoconfigure: error: *** SDL version 1.2.4 not found!"06:01
anavimAzul_Tejano, please don't paste in here06:01
Azul_TejanoOk, sorry. I am not sure how set environment variables..06:01
intelikeyAzul_Tejano maybe 'export PREFIX="$PATH:./" '    and try again06:02
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rabeldableubotu perms is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions06:02
ubotuokay, rabeldable06:02
devintis it just me who thinks that ubuntu should ditch i386 and at least take on i586?06:02
Azul_TejanoI'll try it.06:03
rabeldable!perms06:03
ubotuI heard perms is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions06:03
devintit already can't run on i386 or i486 machines06:03
devintwhy keep compiling for them06:03
dabaRcafuego: ping06:03
anavimoh ###! what happened to ubotu06:03
anavim!listvalues environment06:03
dabaRI killed him, sorry.06:03
dabaRnot on purpose.06:03
anavimhow?06:03
dabaRanavim: he is fixed not.06:03
intelikeydevint it can on 80486 so i386 is usable      err sort of06:04
dabaR mean, now.06:04
anavimexceeded allowed forked processes count  :)06:04
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PokerFacePenguinMarked Away06:04
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anavimAzul_Tejano, read an article on changing your environment variables from the internet.  it will do you a world of good  :)06:05
Azul_TejanoOk, do I just type that in to the terminal and enter?06:05
dabaRAzul_Tejano: if it dont work, ask me again.06:05
nicholaspaulI'm looking for a hint :) anyone use a nice little gui for encrypting files?06:05
intelikeydevint besides why not just make 64bit  everyone is going to have to go to that anyway ?06:05
nicholaspaulon OSX i use 'krypt'...06:06
Azul_TejanoOk I will do a search. ;)06:06
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dabaRAzul_Tejano: you will likely need to install libsdl1.2-dev, however.06:06
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ULffuntuzzugg06:07
TiMiDohey can someone tell me how can i unsubcribe to the ubuntu list?06:07
TiMiDoon the mail?06:07
Azul_TejanodabaR, I will  check that out..06:07
dabaRsend unsubscribe in the message body is a common practice06:07
Coledevint: if you want your system ultra optimized.. just run Gentoo.. takes alot of work. but then it will be as fast as your machine can make it..06:07
intelikeyis there not an unsubscribe url in the mails ?06:08
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nicholaspaulTiMiDo, if all else fails, just block the address in your client filters06:08
devintCole: I don't worry about ultra optimization, it's just that i386 is way outdated06:08
rabeldabledabR: can you change the perms factoid in ubotu?06:08
theconartistdoes anyone know how do get autoscrolling in epiphany?06:08
devinti686 will be around for quite awhile longer06:08
ULffuntu$$$06:08
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xaduxintelikey, thanks man, but when I want close the window of the specific user how can I do?06:09
intelikeydevint i could not run i686 here.06:09
Coledevint: i would not go past i586 as i have a couple old dual penitum boxes i used as a file server.. and i know one of my friends has i 386 set up as a router06:09
elizabethdoes anyone here run aMSN?06:09
xaduxyes06:09
xaduxme06:09
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mustard5devint, I believe the 386 kernel in ubuntu is actuality something like a 586 kernel06:09
elizabethhow come it keeps opening conversation windows with random people?06:09
mustard5devint, thats what I read in the ubuntuforums anyway06:10
nicholaspaulelizabeth, youre prob.getting robots06:10
Azul_Tejanohmm, can't find libsdl1.2-dev in Synaptic or Google. Have a url?06:10
elizabethnicholaspaul, what?06:10
Coledevint: there are still uses for old machines.. why spend money on a new machine to be a gateway for a network.. or a simple proxy server or a DMZ which only has SSH open?06:10
rabeldabledabaR: can you edit the perms factoid in ubotu?06:10
nicholaspaulelizabeth, it sounds like robots .06:10
elizabethnicholaspaul, that would be extremely useful if i knew what it means if i'm getting robots.06:10
anavimrabeldable, you would say "ubotu, perms is <reply>perms is blah06:10
intelikeyxadux idk   i don't use irssi.    try   /help    see if it has online help.    also   'man irssi '   might tell you.      bx here :)06:11
nicholaspaulelizabeth, i was assuming youd know what robots are. They are automated users.06:11
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rabeldable!perms06:11
uboturumour has it, perms is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions06:11
anavimelizabeth, bots are automated programs06:11
dabaRxadux: ps -u <username>; kill -9 <processNumber>. The process number will be shown as output of ps -u <userName>06:11
rabeldableI did that but thats all I can put there...06:11
nicholaspaulelizabeth,  i try to be extremely useful without insulting anyones intelligence .06:11
dabaRxadux: are you asking in irssi?06:11
elizabethnicholaspaul: ok, so how would that work? it is opening windows with people i know, and they're not robots.06:11
anavimrabeldable, what do you want it to say?06:11
dabaRelizabeth: use gaim.06:11
anavimelizabeth, then it's just buggy06:12
elizabethdabaR: no. D:<06:12
nicholaspaulelizabeth, my guess is crap software. Or a bug06:12
elizabethech.06:12
intelikeyanavim it should also have  'man chmod '   in that help node06:12
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nicholaspaulelizabeth, which client are you using? Not all clients are created equal.06:12
rabeldableanavim: Permissions are explained here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#changefilesfolderspermissions      The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename06:12
Azul_TejanoWow, Horatio from SNL!!!06:12
rabeldableoops06:12
rabeldablescratch that06:12
xaduxdabaR, about how close a specific window in irssi06:13
HoratioSanzhalf eaten in a tercel06:13
Azul_TejanoBut Horatio's not in minnesota..06:13
dabaRxadux: go into it, and type: /win c06:13
HoratioSanztaco*06:13
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rabeldableanavim: Permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions     The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename06:13
elizabethnicholaspaul, aMSN06:13
intelikeyrabeldable no    man chmod      ?06:13
dabaRnight06:14
rabeldableanavim: Permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions     The easiest way to work with permissions is to chmod {options} filename, for more info: man chmod06:14
HoratioSanzgenuine looney tunes jacket06:14
Azul_Tejanogood night. Thanks for your help! :)06:14
rabeldablethere06:14
intelikeyrabeldable you'll have newbees 777 / -R    hehhe06:14
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Coleintelikey: lol06:14
nicholaspaulelizabeth, hmmm. Its worth trying others . Everyone's mileage varies.06:14
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intelikeyyes   :)06:15
xaduxdabaR, hey men thankz thats the way :)06:15
Azul_Tejanohoratio? genuine looney tunes jacket?06:15
Coleelizabeth: in my experience GAIM works very well for MSN06:15
rabeldablei just wrote this doc at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions06:15
elizabethcole: the only problem is, you cant change display names :/06:15
nicholaspaulAnyone here use an encryption program with a giu?06:15
nicholaspaulor gui?06:15
Coleelizabeth: your own display name?06:15
HoratioSanzmember's only jacket06:16
anavim!perms06:16
ubotuPermissions are explained here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#changefilesfolderspermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from CLI06:16
elizabethcole yeah06:16
HoratioSanzman woman06:16
rabeldablecool06:16
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Azul_Tejano? member's only jacket? Sounds like a spam-bot06:16
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intelikeyHoratioSanz no help page found for woman06:16
Coleelizabeth: did you try setting the alias line? in the account options in GAIM?06:17
nicholaspaullol intelikey06:17
rabeldableI don't know if having sudo as the example since it could cause problems, however, I notice lots of people problems are needing to change permissions of files that they do not own.06:17
Azul_TejanoLol. That would be nice.06:17
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elizabethcole, yes. my display name is still somethin gabout badgers, even though my alias is "elizabeth"06:17
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Azul_Tejanobadger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom SNakE!06:17
rabeldableanavim: Can you change the URL to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions06:17
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elizabethazul_tejano, actually, yeah, something like that.06:18
rabeldable!ubuntuguide06:18
ubotumethinks ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.06:18
anavimrabeldable, uh, ok06:18
rabeldablethx06:18
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nicholaspaulpurple did what to angel??!?!!?!06:19
Coleelizabeth: got a solution for you.. log into GAIM and then "set friendly name"06:19
Coleelizabeth: try that and let me knwo if it works06:20
purplefeltangelcole: thx :D06:20
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Coleelizabeth: the set friendly name is in the tols menu06:20
purplefeltangelok06:20
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Coleelizabeth: tools- account actions- set friendly name06:20
Coleelizabeth: i'm horrible at directions lol06:20
intelikeyso there have been some fixes to breezy   yes?       and if i contact shipit  do they still use the origenal iso's ?06:21
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intelikeycole  elizabeth is now known as purplefeltangel06:21
purplefeltangelcole, thanks :D06:21
Colepurplefeltangel: np it works i take it?06:21
purplefeltangelyup06:21
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GTroyhey guys how do you set mplayer as the default?06:22
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Iam8upi'm having problems with X windows; reading through the X-wiki it suggests using X -configure; to do this i need root permissions and i can't become su w/o the root password....06:24
Azul_Tejanopreferences, default applications, Gtroy06:24
rabeldableIam8up: sudo bash06:24
Azul_Tejanosystem preferences rather06:24
GTroyAzul_Tejano: many thanks06:24
Iam8uphah...thanks...06:25
mustard5Iam8up, you on gnome?06:25
Iam8upmustard5 - i don't have x windows working, so..no06:25
mustard5Iam8up, there is a sudo command to reconfigure xorg06:25
rabeldableanavim: is it changed?06:25
Iam8upsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?06:25
anavimrabeldable, yes06:25
mustard5Iam8up, yeah06:25
rabeldable!perms06:25
ubotuPermissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from CLI06:25
Iam8updidn't help...06:25
mustard5Iam8up, k06:26
anavimrabeldable, try /msg ubotu perms or whatever else06:26
Azul_TejanoWait, I think I was incorrect about that one Gtroy06:26
mustard5Iam8up, whats it doing out of curiosity?06:26
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Iam8upmustard5 - upon booting it complains about X having problems - the actualy error message is:06:26
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jdmpikeis there an openoffice channel?06:26
jdmpikeI need some openoffice.org help06:26
Iam8up(EE) No devices detected.06:26
Iam8upthen i headed over to the x windows faq06:27
rabeldableanavim: thanks06:27
jdmpikeI need to import a .pot Powerpoint Template into Impress06:27
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jdmpikeanyone know how to do that?06:27
mustard5Iam8up, ah ok...thanks06:27
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etzerdhello all06:27
etzerd?06:27
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Iam8upthe faq told me to: X -configure06:27
etzerdwhat is the command to install KDe06:27
benplautare the repos down?06:28
mustard5Iam8up,  there is another command you can use06:28
Xenguy!kde06:28
ubotuI heard kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/06:28
mustard5Iam8up, its in the first few lines of your xorg.conf06:28
Iam8upcan you tell me what that is?06:28
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mustard5Iam8up, I think it does autodetect again06:28
Xenguymisfit_toy: which desktop? :p06:28
mustard5Iam8up, I'll look for it one sec06:28
misfit_toyXenguy, any06:28
jdmpike!gnome06:28
ubotuI guess gnome is an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users. see http://gnome.org for details.06:28
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Xenguymisfit_toy: so you've tried them all06:29
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jdmpike!Openoffice.org06:29
ubotujdmpike: Did you get hit by a windmill?06:29
misfit_toyXenguy, pretty much06:29
Iam8upmustard5 - i'm in that conf file, can you tell me what i should be looking for?06:29
mustard5Iam8up, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg06:29
Xenguyreally06:29
Iam8upoh..that's nice =)06:29
mustard5Iam8up, its in the comments at the top of the xorg.conf06:29
Xenguymisfit_toy: and it sux -- why?06:29
intelikeymisfit_toy cause linux' stringth is in the cli ?06:29
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mustard5Iam8up, thats about the limit of my understanding of configuring xorg.conf ;)06:29
Iam8upall right..thanks a bunch...06:30
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Xenguyintelikey: the cli is great, but linux is plenty GUI now06:30
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rabeldableIam8up: What kind of hardware do you have?06:30
misfit_toyXenguy, I have no problem with this stuff, I love it, I'm commenting on the questions here...06:30
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ggon_#join dia-x06:30
Iam8upnow..i hit that command, select 'nv' drivers (as i'm using a fx 5200 pci) and then it tells me 'xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2005.11.200029'06:30
misfit_toyintelikey, ^^06:30
Iam8uprabeldable - x8606:31
Xenguymisfit_toy: hrm, sorry, I just thought you didn't like the linux desktop, and I wondered why in particular06:31
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mustard5Iam8up, its backuped up your xorg.conf06:31
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intelikeyXenguy does that mean the cli is "declining" ?06:31
mustard5Iam8up, excuse that poorly worded sentence :)06:31
Iam8upmustard5 - but now i'm back at the prompt =/06:31
misfit_toyas long as people have to come here and ask the absurd questions they have to ask, then god help linux....and don't get me wrong...my whole house is open source06:31
mustard5Iam8up, I would try starting up gnome06:31
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Iam8upmustard5 - but i can't...06:32
mustard5Iam8up, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start06:32
Xenguyintelikey: not at all - it's super powerful and people who get really into *nix learn the command line cos it is valuable to do so06:32
mustard5Iam8up, ah ok06:32
anavimmisfit_toy, most of the problems I see on here relate to people needing to install their favorite software, which was left out due to patents, non-free issues, etc.06:32
rabeldablemisfit_toy: at least they can come here to ask.....06:32
Iam8upi can't get into gnome, that's the whole point of me being in here atm =(06:32
misfit_toyanatole, rabeldable true enough06:32
anavimmisfit_toy, then the usual bugs which they need walking through06:32
Colewho needed the openoffice template help?06:32
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mustard5Iam8up, I'm just assuming that haveing reconfigured you might be able to now06:32
intelikeyk Xenguy looks like we are on the same page of music....06:33
mustard5Iam8up, soz :)06:33
anavimmisfit_toy, then there's the learning-how-to-use-unix questions  :)06:33
surfdue_Or, if you want to disable credential caching permanently, you can edit your runtime config file (located next to the auth/ directory). Simply set store-auth-creds to no, and no credentials will be cached on disk, ever. << where is this config file located in the program subversion on ubuntu?06:33
misfit_toyanavim, of course06:33
Colejdmpike: hey you still need help with that template?06:33
Iam8upmustard5 - i went through this setup once before, it didn't fix my problem06:33
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DaBassi need help with netinstall is there anyone06:34
mustard5Iam8up, k..well you have a backup of your xorg.conf if you want to restore it06:34
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Iam8upyay...multiple copies of broken configs =(06:34
misfit_toybbl06:34
Toranhey guys, how can i redetect my graphics card with ubuntu?06:34
mustard5Iam8up, :)06:34
Iam8upToran - i can tell you that...06:34
Xenguymisfit_toy: don't forget your tinfoil hat :-)06:34
ToranIam8up: .. :D06:34
Iam8upToran - sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg06:35
misfit_toyXenguy, got it on!06:35
Iam8uphope you have more luck then i do...06:35
ToranIam8up: thanks06:35
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Xenguya06:35
misfit_toy49 people in #windows06:35
misfit_toyhmm06:35
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misfit_toyI apparently OWN #xp06:36
misfit_toycool06:36
ecobuntureally?06:36
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ecobuntui have a picture of a drake on my dapper desktop06:36
anavimmisfit_toy, you know unix questions, like chmod, chown, $PATH, bash, etc.06:36
ecobuntudrake being duck not dragon06:36
dylan_ecobuntu, how is Dapper thus far?  what changes have been made?06:37
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misfit_toyanavim, yes, why?06:37
ecobuntudylan_: not a very many...it's hardly noticeable06:37
misfit_toyecobuntu, there's a logo already? dammit! where?06:37
dylan_ecobuntu, is it any more stable?06:37
ecobuntudylan_: suspend, a systems monitor application06:37
ecobuntudylan_: more than breezy?  definitely not06:37
anavimmisfit_toy, you said you wondered why there would be unix questions, I'm just clarifying what I mean when I say unix06:37
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ecobuntumisfit_toy: there's no logo yet06:38
misfit_toyanavim, understood06:38
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misfit_toyecobuntu, dammit!06:38
ecobuntuit's still brown06:38
Iam8upquick question..what's the release name for 5.10?06:38
misfit_toyLMAO06:38
misfit_toyno more freaking brown06:38
misfit_toygod06:38
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mahangu_Iam8up, Breezy Badger06:38
Iam8upwasn't it like..breezy bear..?06:38
Iam8upahh there you go, thanks a bunch06:38
mahangu_Iam8up,np06:39
Pablo_Cbreezy beer06:39
misfit_toya drake is a DUCK, and thus the color should change to more blackish and such06:39
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dylan_ecobuntu, so why make dapper in the first place lol?06:39
Sonny_Wertzikcan anyone here answer a question about xcompmgr.?06:39
ecobuntudylan_: hmm?  it will be more stable than breezy..it's in development06:39
Colehey guys if the guy comes back asking how to use a .pot (ms template) in open office.. here are the instructions.. open up any of the openoffice apps. click file  - new - templates and documents..then click organize. then click on my templates. click "commands" then "import template" .. a new window will pop up and browse to the location of the template and chagne the "files or type" to "all files" then select the template and click ope06:40
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delltonyquestion i have a website running on one of my boxes i want to ssh into it and do a backup of it and store that backup on this box how would i go about doiong that please if anyone would like to help that would be great06:41
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mahangu_delltony, ssh in06:41
rob_pdelltony:  I'd use scp.06:41
mahangu_tar or cp the files06:41
mahangu_yeah06:41
mahangu_or what rob_p said06:41
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ecobuntufor java packages: !javadebs06:41
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ecobuntu!javadebs06:41
ubotusomebody said javadebs was at Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/06:41
intelikeycole write a wiki  and link ubotu to it.06:41
delltonywell scp i kinda understand but how would i get it to tarball on myside with a | ?06:42
Colekk06:42
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Sonny_Wertzikhas anyone here heard of xcompmgr.?06:42
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mahangu_delltony, if you can get in to shell on the server06:42
mahangu_why dont you get in there06:42
mahangu_and tar it06:42
mahangu_then scp it out06:42
delltonythats what i wanted to do then send it to myself the server is at a datacenter06:42
benplautfolks... i've got a big problem06:42
rob_pdelltony:  Write a small script that makes a tar.gz of the dir(s) you want backed up and automatically scp's the tar.gz to your machine.  Add it to a crontab entry for a truly automated backup solution!06:42
benplautthemes install jst fine, but the theme never changes06:43
benplautit's stuck on indubstrial06:43
delltonyrob thats what i'm trying to do but i don't know how06:43
delltony:(06:43
anavimrob_p, but that's too easy!  :)06:43
mahangu_delltony, im sure there are several perl / bash scripts that are already written for the job06:43
anavimdelltony, there's articles on the 'net for each of those tasks06:43
rob_pdelltony:  I'd say read up on how to use scp, then open a few bash scripts and poke around.  Before long, you'll be scripting your way to bliss!06:44
intelikeybenplaut that is a major problem, theeme wont change......    ;/06:44
rob_panavim:  That's what I like about Linux.  Everything is just TOO EASY! :-)06:45
benplautintelikey: well...06:45
toblerpi'm using gaim and jabber over ssl and i discovered that you can't use tls... it only works with "force old ssl"06:45
benplautnm, fixed06:45
toblerpdoes somebody know my problem?06:45
toblerplibgnutls-* is all installed06:46
ecobuntu] \06:46
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rabeldable!perms06:49
ubotuwell, perms is Permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from the console.06:49
anavimrabeldable, you need to use <reply> so that ubotu doesn't add it's funny phrases to the start of the sentence06:49
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rabeldablesomebody else changed it.... in the ubuntu-offtopic channel06:50
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rabeldablelet me try to change it....06:50
anavimah, I will update it then06:50
rabeldableubotu perms is <reply>Permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from the console.06:51
ubotu...but perms is already something else...06:51
anavimupdated06:51
rabeldable!perms06:51
ubotuPermissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from the console.06:51
rabeldableok06:51
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anavimrabeldable, like this06:51
anavim!test is <reply>Test is a test06:51
ubotu...but test is already something else...06:51
anavim!foo is foo06:52
ubotuokay, anavim06:52
LotsaCaboOkay, this is odd.  I cannot login using the "su" command, but I am 100000% confident that the password is correct.  What's up?06:52
anavim!no, foo is <reply>foo is bar06:52
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anavimhuh06:52
mustard5LotsaCabo, do you have a root password?06:52
intelikey!foo06:52
ubotu[foo]  foo06:52
anavimweird06:52
mustermann!bluetooth06:52
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, mustermann06:52
LotsaCabomustard5, I do.06:52
anavim!foo is <reply>foo is bar06:52
ubotu...but foo is already something else...06:52
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anavim!no, foo is <reply>foo is bar06:53
anavim!forget foo06:53
ubotuanavim: i forgot foo06:53
mustard5LotsaCabo, you can get a root login using sudo -s or sudo -i and user password06:53
jack-sudo su -06:53
jack-works as well06:53
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Coleintelikey: i made a wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MSTemplatesInOpenOffice now what should i do06:53
mustard5LotsaCabo, sudo -s is the most commonly used I think06:53
mustermannhi guys.  i'd like to get a usb bluetooth dongle running.  how can i check to see if it's being recognized?06:53
jack-sudo -s will give you a timed rootshell06:53
LotsaCaboHmm... so, what is "su" in Ununtu?06:53
jack-!su06:53
ubotujack-: Are you on ritalin?06:53
mustard5LotsaCabo, its the wrong way in ubuntu :)06:54
anavimLotsaCabo, su is switch user just like everywhere else, but root is disabled06:54
mustermannsubstitute user.  can be any user, not just root.06:54
anavim!tell LotsaCabo about rootsudo06:54
LotsaCaboAaaah.06:54
intelikey!oo.templates is <reply>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MSTemplatesInOpenOffice06:54
ubotuintelikey: okay06:54
mustard5LotsaCabo, ubotu will explain in PM06:54
jack-mm how did i enable my root again :) lol06:55
intelikey!oo.templates06:55
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MSTemplatesInOpenOffice06:55
jack-sudo passwd something, i think06:55
jack-not sure06:55
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mustard5jack-, sudo passwd root06:55
jack-yeah06:55
jack-guessed it06:55
Coleintelikey: h tahts cool06:55
intelikeysudo passwd      and when it asks first give your user passwd then it will ask for the 'new root password'06:56
intelikeyjack ^06:56
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jack-i know, thx06:56
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j1hello06:57
j1anyone here06:57
intelikeyj106:57
j1hey06:57
j1where are you?06:57
anavimj1, this is #ubuntu channel06:57
j1oh ok06:57
j1i got it06:57
intelikeyubotu whois j1 ?06:57
ubotuintelikey: Do they come in packets of five?06:57
zorba64j1: we are everywhere06:57
mustermannwhat's the name of the boot-up log file?06:58
j1i am on ubutu06:58
intelikeymustermann 'dmsg '06:58
j1dmesg06:58
anavimintelikey, ubotu is not nickserv06:58
mustermannthanky06:58
ColeJack Smelleisnet06:58
j1how did you know my name>06:58
j1whoa06:58
rabeldablej2 j3 j4 j5 j6 j7 j8 j9 j006:58
Cole;-)06:58
j1what??  oh my06:59
j1that is my locker combination06:59
Colehe asked06:59
j1wow06:59
j1they called by grampa smelly06:59
anavimj1, he knows your name because he typed "/whois j1"06:59
Coleoh yeah that 207:00
rabeldablej1: can you take your offtopic convo to #ubuntu-offtopic ?07:00
j1|whois elvis07:00
j1i need help07:00
rabeldableso do I07:01
j1ok, sorry. i'll gt back on topic07:01
Colerabeldable: what did you need?07:02
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j1gotta learn how to decrypt DVDs in Ubuntu (Hairy Beaver)07:02
rabeldable1 million dollars...07:03
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rabeldable!libdvdcss207:03
ubotu[libdvdcss2]  to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"07:03
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intelikey (Hairy Beaver)  ?      hehhe07:03
j1i meant to say breezy badger, sorry07:04
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notyodaHey does the newest livecd have ethereal on it?07:04
j1i couldn't get libdvdcss from any of the repositories07:04
notyodaor is there a site where I could find out what packages are containted on the livecd?07:04
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lampshadethis room is quiet07:05
j1anyone else? where do i get libdvdread?07:05
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chanchalI installed all packages for Hindi in Ubuntu-5.10 including IIIMF and /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/dev But I am unable to have Hindi Keyboard Layout option in Keyboard Preferences -> Layout -> Add /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/dev was not existing in Ubuntu-5.10 partition and I copied this file from my Fedora Core 3 partition where this feature was available. Whats wrong???07:06
intelikeylampshade maybe msg ubotu info ethereal   ?07:06
lampshademsg ubotu info ethereal07:06
j1loud loud07:06
j1loud07:06
lampshadeyar07:06
j1shouts07:06
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j1yip yap yow07:06
intelikeyprepend /07:07
lampshadeintelikey: Yeah, that didn't really tell me about the livecd...  it did say it was in the repos though07:07
mustermannhuh.  my dmesg log file begins with the wrong date and time, but the timestamp on the file is right.  is that normal?07:07
rabeldablemustermann: thats probably because ntp updated your clock after your system booted... check your hardware time at the bios07:08
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intelikeylampshade it says it is in universe/net  so it probably isn't on the cd...07:08
lampshadethanks07:09
thechitowncubswhat can I do to make GTK1 apps look not SO ugly? How can i change the font size and theme to make it look a little more presentable?07:09
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rabeldablethechitowncubs: /join #gtk+ or #Gtk07:10
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mustermanni see several bluetooth entries, and the dongle lights up, but the gnome bluetooth device manager scan doesn't find my bt mouse.  any command line tools or other ways to verify?07:10
mustermannultimately, i'd like to get the mouse and dial-up working.07:11
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rabeldablemustermann: don't know about bluetooth07:12
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anavimmustermann, what does "lsmod | grep bluetooth" give you?07:14
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mustermannbluetooth              43012  9 rfcomm,l2cap,hci_usb07:15
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anavimmustermann, so that looks ok07:16
mustermannso you think its being recognized and driver's+daemons are being loaded.07:16
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cornflakeis it safe to do apt-get dist-upgrade w/out backing up first?07:17
chanchalI think my query about keyboard layouts was not in presentable length07:17
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anavimmustermann, and what about:   hciconfig hci007:17
deFryskcornflake, backing up is always wiser07:17
cornflakedeFrysk, hehe07:17
thrice`cornflake, well, backing up is always a good idea...but, it should be safe if you're going major release to major release07:17
cornflakeDist: Debian GNU/Linux testing/unstable | Uname: Linux 2.6.12-9-686 | CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.93GHz @ 2.93GHz - 5816.32 bogomips | Memory: (Used/Total) 492MB/496MB | Videocard: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) | Resolution: 800x600 (bpp: 24) | Uptime: 7 days 2 hrs 54 mins 36 secs | eth0: IN: 229.9 MiB OUT: 40.0 MiB07:17
mustermannhci0:   Type: USB07:18
Amaranthcornflake: Please don't do that again.07:18
mustermannUP RUNNING PSCAN ISCAN07:18
cornflakeAmaranth, aye aye, sir!07:18
mustermannand some addres, sending, receiving info07:18
deFryskcornflake, make sure your not the pebkac if you decide not to back up07:18
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mustermannRX bytes:1659 acl:5 sco:0 events:70 errors:007:18
anavimmustermann, it says it's up and running, or not07:19
cornflakeumm... wut's a pebkac?07:19
mustermannTX bytes:637 acl:5 sco:0 commands:38 errors:007:19
mustermannrunning07:19
deFryskcornflake, google for it07:19
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deFryskcornflake, and if you never heard of it, better back up ;)07:19
Coledefrysk: or it might be an I.D. Ten T Error07:20
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anavimmustermann, and you installed gnome-bluetooth and ran it?07:20
intelikeyubotu pebkac is the Problem Exists Between the Keyboard And the Chair07:20
ubotuintelikey: okay07:20
DShepherdI notice that when I tab some of the icons are grayed or dimmed. What does that mean?07:21
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mustermannyep.  looking at it.  scan returns nothing.  takes a while to "un-grey" once activated.07:21
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cornflakedeFrysk, lol just found it... my reason for asking is because i keep getting a gpg error whenever i apt-get update07:21
dylan_why does firefox use so much memory?  is there any other way to decrease it?07:22
deFrysk!gpgerror07:22
ubotudeFrysk: Do they come in packets of five?07:22
deFrysk:/07:22
cornflakeand this forum said to apt-get dist-upgrade --without-authentication07:22
Amaranth!gpgerr07:22
ubotuI heard gpgerr is If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*07:22
DShepherdmustermann: so do you know what that means?07:22
deFryskAmaranth, thats what I ment :s07:22
DShepherddylan_: hey07:22
dylan_DShepherd, hey07:22
DShepherddylan_: how did it go07:22
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mustermannno clue.07:22
Amaranthdylan_: There is a nice long explaination for why it uses so much memory but I'm too tired to write it all out again.07:23
dylan_DShepherd, not bad...im on ubuntu now, but still the burning issue has not been resolved..07:23
DShepherdmustermann: ok thanks07:23
dylan_Amaranth, how about a link?07:23
Amaranthdylan_: I don't know of one.07:23
dylan_Amaranth, is the problem being worked on?07:23
DShepherddylan_: so your files in the Desktop were gone?07:23
Amaranthdylan_: It's not a firefox problem.07:23
cornflakedeFrysk, ok that was a WAY better solution07:23
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intelikeyshort explanation, it's bloated ?07:23
deFryskcornflake, stay away from daft forums07:24
cornflakedeFrysk, hehe07:24
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cornflakedeFrysk, good thing i was smart enough to not do a apt-get dist-upgrade07:24
dylan_DShepherd, um, no - that was when i was running on slackware07:24
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lysisanybody here actually alive?07:25
Amaranthdylan_: Let's say Firefox wants a chunk of memory. |||||||||||||||||| is this chunk. After awhile it frees part of this and we end up with ||||00000000|. The zeros are non-used parts but firefox is still marked as using them because of the | on the end.07:25
DShepherddylan_: ok kool07:25
intelikeylysis i wish i knew.07:25
dylan_Amaranth, so the amount of memory use is an illusion?07:25
dylan_lol07:25
Amaranthdylan_: More or less, anyway. The solution is a new malloc function.07:25
DShepherdAmaranth: interesting...07:26
lysisintelikey . . . hehehe.    i just got ubuntu working today.  been a microsoft user until now.07:26
intelikeylysis do they come in packs of five ?07:26
anavimmustermann, this might help a bit:   http://lists.gnomehack.com/pipermail/gnome-bluetooth/2005-April/000826.html07:26
dylan_Amaranth, will it be removed in the future?07:26
toresbelysis: grats07:26
Amaranthdylan_: No, it's actually still "in use" by firefox. As in, no one else can use it.07:26
mustermannhey thanks, i'll read up.07:26
lysisintelikey; i don't understand what you mean?07:26
DShepherdAmaranth: where do you get your facts from?07:26
AmaranthDShepherd: I got it off either a blog or a mailing list a long time ago. :P07:26
lysisanybody here care to help me troubleshoot a dvd playback problem?07:27
intelikeywhat ?   oh    hehhe yeah that was random....07:27
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DShepherdAmaranth: are you sure they havent made changes to it since then07:27
thrice`wha'ts the problem?07:27
Amaranthlysis: Don't ask to ask, just ask.07:27
dylan_Amaranth, if i was to open 50 firefox windows, would i touch swap?07:27
AmaranthDShepherd: Pretty sure, because it requires changes in glibc.07:27
Amaranthdylan_: Depends on what you're doing/have done with those windows, I guess.07:28
DShepherdAmaranth: hmmm interesting07:28
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lysiswell, i started having problems with every program saying "audio device in use" or something of the sort.  now programs lock up and i have to push the reset button because the cd drive won't eject, unmount, do anything and gnome won't close until it's done.07:28
DShepherdAmaranth: so you use an alternate browser?07:28
anavimdylan_, opening just one window will touch swap if the web page is heavy enough on system resources07:28
AmaranthDShepherd: No, because the only alternative is khtml.07:28
dylan_anavim, i see07:29
trappistAmaranth: that's not the only alternative07:29
DShepherdAmaranth: we talking about broswer right07:29
AmaranthDShepherd: I think C++ and/or Qt's libs have a workaround for the problem, but it wouldn't surprise me if they had the same problem.07:29
DShepherdbrowser*07:29
AmaranthDShepherd: No, engines.07:29
intelikeyeeek reset button !07:29
DShepherdAmaranth: ok07:29
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ArsiesysHi07:30
DShepherdhi07:30
AmaranthDShepherd: There is no point in using dillo or epiphany because they are just simple wrappers around gecko, so it doesn't help much.07:30
deFryskhi07:30
lysisexactly!  i shouldn't be doing that i know . . .07:30
DShepherdAmaranth: so its the engine need fixing then..... interesting07:30
lysisi just loaded up xine . . .   it's playing the scene before the menu . . .07:30
lysismenu's open . . .07:30
AmaranthDShepherd: No, it's the platform the engine runs on.07:30
AmaranthDShepherd: glibc or the kernel07:30
DShepherdAmaranth: so...windows is kool then?07:31
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intelikeytry [ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace]   in place or the panic button07:31
AmaranthDShepherd: They probably have a better malloc, sure. :P07:31
lysissweet jesus i got it to work i think . . .07:31
AmaranthDShepherd: Or just hide the problem by not reporting memory correctly.07:31
DShepherdAmaranth: very interesting...I hope you not messing with me :)07:31
AmaranthDShepherd: But getting an accurate measure of memory usage is hard anyway.07:31
AmaranthDShepherd: As far as I know, I'm not. :)07:32
DShepherdAmaranth: ok kool07:32
lysisok so star wars bonus material locks up, hitch says an audio error . . . but the bourne supremacy works fine.  it could be the changes i made to it too . . .07:32
AmaranthDShepherd: Windows is not evil, by the way. :)07:32
lysiswindows is definitely NOT evil.  i play games on it everyday. :)07:32
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DShepherdAmaranth: I know... :) I neva thought so07:32
DShepherdAmaranth: the prices are ridiculous though...well I think so07:32
AmaranthThe NT kernel is one of (if not _the_) best there is, actually.07:33
AmaranthIt's all the junk on top that ruins it. :)07:33
intelikeywindows not evil, but M$ eula and business practices are.07:33
Amaranthwhenever someone says M$ i have to paste a link, let me find it :)07:33
phizwhat's the best way to install xmms w/ ubuntu07:33
lysisso anyway; i was pretty excited when i booted up ubuntu and my logitech keyboard's sound wheel worked. haha07:34
deFryskphiz, sudo apt-get install xmms07:34
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intelikeyphiz synaptic    for the gui user07:34
lysisyea synaptic is good stuff.  i've installed all kinds of goodies since i got this running earlier. :)07:34
intelikeyapt-get for the cli07:34
DShepherdintelikey: aptitude works fine for me07:35
intelikeythat's nice.07:35
DShepherdintelikey: I like it better than apt-get07:35
intelikeygood on ya DShepherd07:35
phizi think my sources.list is messed up07:35
germancitoHello!07:35
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mustermannme too phiz.  after installing automatix.07:36
phizis xmms a back port or what07:36
germancitoI'm having a little problem with amarok07:36
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phizi have a pretty fresh install07:36
lysisso anybody know a program that burns dvd-video (using the video_ts folder)?07:36
deFrysk!tell phiz about repositories07:36
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phizthanks07:36
anavimphiz, no xmms isn't a backport07:37
intelikeyubotu info xmms07:38
ubotuxmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB07:38
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AmaranthI am.07:38
DShepherd:)07:39
AmaranthGoogle is no good with things like "M$".07:39
phizfixing the sources.list fixed me up.  thanks!07:39
DShepherdAmaranth: maybe you need help. what exactly u looking for?07:39
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AmaranthDShepherd: A penny arcade comic named M$07:40
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intelikeylol07:40
DShepherdI notice that when I tab between windows the icons are grayed or dimmed. What does that mean?07:41
anavimDShepherd, on what app?07:41
DShepherdubuntu.....07:41
anavimDShepherd, you mean nautilus?07:41
DShepherdanavim: Alt+tab07:41
Amaranththat's metacity, not nautilus07:42
anavimDShepherd, it means they're minimized07:42
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DShepherdanavim: oh.....looks again.....I knew that :)07:42
DShepherdanavim: thanks07:42
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Arafangion_Why doesn't my evolution work? It fails to display my inbox, all I get is Inbox(10)07:44
Arafangion_There are about 500 emails in there, but I do not get a list of any of the contents!07:44
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mlalkakahi07:45
intelikeyi played with evo for a few minutes, desided it was bloat and removed it.07:45
LokkHello.  Can someone please tell me which config file contains the default domain name in Ubuntu?07:46
intelikeymaybe /etc/hosts  ?07:46
intelikeyidk07:47
mlalkakai need to install a program that spans two cd's, and the setup program needs me to change cd's while running it. how do i do that?07:47
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LokkThanks intelikey.  I don't know why I didn't think of that (used to it being /etc/domainname in gentoo)07:47
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fortran01what does "visable" mean in english?07:48
Madpilotfortran01: do you mean "visible"?07:49
Arafangion_Well, if nobody knows how to fix this evolution issue, could someone suggest a nice imap email client? I am used to kmail, but I don't like using kde programs in gnome.07:49
intelikeycheck http://dictionary.com07:49
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intelikeymozilla-mail ?07:49
Colethunderbird07:50
DShepherdArafangion_: thunderbird?07:50
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fortran01thanks Madpilot and intelikey07:50
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mlalkakahow can i run a program from a cd (a installation program) that requires me to change the cd while running?07:52
intelikeycp the installer to hd ?07:53
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Arafangion_DShepherd: WIll give that a look.07:53
DShepherdArafangion_: kool07:53
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mlalkakaintelikey, i think there may be too many files to copy07:56
DShepherdAmaranth: I found a forum post about it...--> http://www.penny-arcade.com/2002/07/22#1027342688 <-- can u make further progress07:56
DShepherd?07:57
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trappistmlalkaka: is it a game?07:57
mlalkakatrappist, yes07:57
mlalkakatransgress, any ideas?07:58
trappistmlalkaka: when he says copy the installer, he means just the single file you run to install it.07:58
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dampjamAbout once a day my screen just freezes... mouse doesn't work ctrl+alt+f1-f9.... I have to hold down the power button to turn it off/on... what can I look at to diagnose this?07:58
intelikeyif you have the free space in $HOME  what about mkdir $HOME/blah ;cp /cdrom/* blah -R ;eject (switch cd's) ;cp /cdrom/* blah -R ;cd blah (run installer) ;cd ;rm-rf blah      mlalkaka ?07:58
trappistlike if it's installer.sh, copy it to your home directory and run it from there07:58
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trappistdampjam: do you have another machine you can use to ssh to that one?07:59
dampjamtrappist: sure07:59
dampjamtrappist: it would be easier to ssh from this to that one, then back again... will that work?07:59
trappistdampjam: if that happens to me I try to ssh to it (to see if I can)07:59
Chippendalewhat is ssh??07:59
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cyphaselol!07:59
dampjamChippendale: hahaha07:59
Pablo_Co.O07:59
mlalkakatrappist, i know, but if only life were that simple in the windows world. it is a windows-based installer and i'm using wine to install it. unfortunately, unlike the good guys who made ut2003/2004, this game doesn't support linux natively.07:59
Pablo_C!google ssh08:00
ubotuPablo_C: Wish i knew08:00
trappistdampjam: no need to do it back again - if it freezes, see if you can ssh to it, then see if you can kill X via ssh08:00
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dampjamtrappist: hrm... I am pretty sure even ssh will be dead08:00
cyphasei just heard someone pronounce Starfox "Starfucks"08:00
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trappistdampjam: if that's the case it's probably a kernel panic08:00
intelikeyssh = secure shell08:00
trappistdampjam: but one of the reasons to ssh is to find out if that's true08:00
mlalkakaintelikey, i could use your copy method, but, if possible, i'd like to avoid that08:00
Chippendalewhat is ssh?08:01
intelikeydid you try running the installer and when it asks for the other cd use eject and see if you can change them ?08:01
trappistmlalkaka: I used to do that with supermount, but in ubuntu that would require a kernel patch08:01
trappistintelikey: linux won't let you eject a mounted cd08:02
intelikeyChippendale 'man ssh '08:02
trappistand it won't let you umount an in-use cd08:02
intelikeytrappist eject umounts them.08:02
trappistmlalkaka: iirc there are some good docs about multi-cd games on transgaming.com08:02
trappistmlalkaka: last I read about it, transgaming recommended supermount, but I think there are other solutions08:03
mlalkakatrappist, why doesn't the osdl make supermount an official module in the kernel? it's a useful feature, in my opinion.08:03
intelikeytrappist that's odd then all the linux distros that mount a cd start installing their distro then ask for the next disk and spit the first one out are doing what exactly ?08:03
mlalkakatrappist, i'll check transgaming right now08:03
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trappistmlalkaka: it's not osdl's decision, it's linus's.  and the answer is basically that supermount sucks.  it's never quite worked right, and even if it did, I'm not sure if linus would put it in the main tree08:04
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mlalkakaintelikey, i think they're copying the installer to the hard drive first then running it from there08:04
stevejesushey guys08:04
stevejesusanyone tried installing mezzo orchestra on ubuntu yet?08:04
mlalkakastevejesus, hi08:04
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trappistintelikey: linux distros know how to get out of the way so they can be umounted - a windows installer running from the cd is still using the cd, which will prevent it from being umounted08:05
stevejesusmlalkaka,  hi08:05
jeff_hey guys08:05
joe__i used ndisgtk and got the driver installed...what do i have to do now to get it to show up in network settings?08:05
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oNe^somewherecan some1 help me install nvclock ?08:05
intelikeywrong mlalkaka ram disk not hd.  they do partition work from the installer.   this game installer may use ram disk too.   idk.08:05
joe__broadcom 1350 network card08:05
jeff_i am having a bit of a problem with .wmv files08:05
jeff_some of them play and others doint08:05
stevejesusso i got the greatest gdesklet today08:05
jeff_does anyone know why?08:05
stevejesusrandom simpsons quotes!08:05
trappistintelikey: ram disk or hd, the point is the code isn't running from the cd, which is why it can be umounted.  not the case with windows games.08:05
trappistjeff_: not all wmv files use the same codec08:06
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trappistjeff_: you have the codecs for some and not others08:06
joe__do i have to add a line to etc or something?08:06
jeff_trappist: ok cool, where can i get them all?08:06
trappist!tell joe__ about w32codecs08:06
trappisterr08:06
trappist!tell jeff_ about w32codecs08:06
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joe__trappist: its a win driver08:07
harriswhat's up everyone08:07
trappistjoe__: my mistake, I was trying to do that for jeff_08:07
joe__trappist: ah ok...so what about mine? :)08:08
trappistjoe__: never used ndiswrapper, sorry08:08
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joe__anyone know about ndiswrapper08:08
joe__?08:08
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intelikeyi guess you could use a second cdrom drive mlalkaka08:09
trappist!ndiswrapper08:09
ubotuwell, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper08:09
mlalkakaintelikey, i don't have another one08:09
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trappistintelikey: that probably won't work either.  most games insist on looking at whatever drive you started on.08:09
trappistsome do give you a browse feature, though08:10
joe__trappist: so are there native drivers for broadcom 1350 wireless drivers?08:10
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jeff_trappist: I have win32codecs though, i already did waht it says on the wiki08:10
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mahangu_ubotu, tell joe__ about wireless08:10
trappistmlalkaka: if you have a windows install handy you might try installing on windows, copying the install to linux and trying to run from there08:10
jeff_trappist: i can play some .wmv files and not others08:10
trappistjoe__: no idea08:10
intelikeytrappist it would if you mount it on the same mount point  :)08:10
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trappistjeff_: try looking at the output of whatever media player you're using - mplayer usually has pretty verbose output08:11
stevejesusoh my gnome seems so much spappier using the qt engine.08:11
stevejesussnappier*08:11
choudeshello all.08:11
trappistintelikey: how are you going to do that if you can't umount the first cd08:11
choudeshwhat package is smbmount in?08:11
trappistmlalkaka: out of curiosity, what game?08:11
intelikeyyou don't have to umount to mount over the top of :)08:11
trappistchoudesh: apt-file search bin/smbmount08:12
Amaranthstevejesus: I'm waiting for the day when I can use GTK with Qt using the glib main loop rendering my GTK widgets. :)08:12
trappistchoudesh:  if that doesn't work, apt-get install apt-file and apt-file update08:12
mlalkakatrappist, SWAT 3 (TGOTY)08:12
jeff_trappist: ok ill check it out08:12
locomortoAmaranth: as we all are :)08:12
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stevejesusAmaranth, that'll be the day.08:12
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locomortoAmaranth: the pity is you can do it with qt08:13
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trappistmlalkaka: oh, never heard of that one.  have you tried running the installer *from* your home directory, like cd $HOME;wine /media/cdrom0/setup.exe08:13
stevejesusAmaranth, dang qt crash gdesklets...08:13
locomortoAmaranth: but qt themes sucks afiak08:13
choudeshtrappist, what if you don't have the breezy CDROM?08:13
trappistchoudesh: the repositories are online08:13
mlalkakatrappist, no i havent. but how would that work?08:13
AmaranthAppearently trolltech is actually considering using the glib mainloop in Qt for *nix. That'll be awesome.08:13
choudeshtrappist, I know. I run apt-file update and it asks for a CDROM08:13
trappistmlalkaka: it might not work at all, choudesh smbfs: usr/bin/smbmount08:14
Amaranth(that's the mainloop gtk uses so you can you both in one app without them blocking each other)08:14
trappistgah, oops08:14
stevejesusAmaranth, there really needs to be some unification...08:14
trappistchoudesh: smbfs: usr/bin/smbmount08:14
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mahangu_how do you see the amount of free space on your partitions?08:14
Amaranthand with that code you can have GParts, KParts embedded in GTK widgets08:14
trappistmlalkaka: basically you'd be in your home directory and the setup.exe will maybe-just-maybe run itself from ram and not the cd and you can umount and swap cds.  worth a shot.08:14
jeff_trappist: it gives me 'error, too many packets in the buffer'08:15
trappistmahangu_: df -h08:15
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trappistjeff_: try with mplayer --nocache08:15
choudeshtrappist, Thanks08:15
DelvienAnyone know a way to get Adobe Photoshop Cs2 9.0 to work on linux? Im not liking the Gimp08:15
mlalkakatrappist, is it possible mount a cdrom drive in a directory that already contains files, and access both (files from the cd and files on the hard drive in the same directory) at the same time?08:15
intelikeymahangu_ 'df -h '08:15
mahangu_trappist, thanks08:15
mahangu_intelikey, thanks08:15
trappistDelvien: www.codeweavers.com08:15
trappistmlalkaka: not that I know of08:16
AmaranthDelvien: As far as I know it doesn't work in WINE or Crossover Office so no.08:16
Delvientrappist CrossOver is slow, and unreliable08:16
mlalkakatrappist, alright. installation attempt 2...08:16
trappistDelvien: it's neither in my experience, but I'm pretty sure it's the only solution for what you're trying to do, unless you want some virtualization like vmware or something08:16
DelvienAmaranth i wish adobe would make a linux version :( i miss it so much08:16
intelikeyxpdf ?08:17
ispikedanyone else's (letter) z's get messed up for Times New Roman?08:17
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trappistDelvien: I'm not a photoshop guy but I run apps in cxoffice all the time, and I find that it works quite nicely.  especially newer versions.08:18
harrisanyone know a program that I can make animated gifs in? can the gimp handle that?08:18
Delvientrappist i have 4.1 , doesnt work too good lol.. but it is the demo...08:18
Vensonharris: i just opened a gif y'day in Gimp.....and yeah, i think it can handle all that stuff08:18
Amaranththe demo is the same as the full version08:18
trappistDelvien: the demo is fully functional, so that wouldn't be it.  5.0 is available, though.08:18
Amaranthjust with nag screen08:18
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harriscool, thanks man. I will have to check it out in more depth venson08:19
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rabeldableharris: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Simple_Animations/08:19
mlalkakatrappist, do you know where on the transgaming site you saw them mention things about supermount and other options?08:19
ThomasMDelvien: Have you looked into using virtual machines?08:19
DelvienThomasM Vmware?08:19
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trappistmlalkaka: it was years ago that I saw it, and the whole site's been redone since then.  try searching for supermount, since any discussion of multi-cd games will probably make reference to it.08:20
ThomasMDelvien: Or others cut from the same cloth, yes. VMware is the best I've seen for full Windows virtualization.08:20
harrissweet... thanks rebeldable. just what i needed08:20
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harrisjust checking out the turtorial now08:20
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DelvienThomasM i dual boot windows, so VMware would be a waste of harddrive space. and time, i want to run Adobe in linux, im running 7, was just wondering if i can run 9 (the one i own)08:21
oNe^somewherehello ..i'm new to ubuntu and to linux ...could some1 plz help me install nvclock ?08:21
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intelikeyDelvien if it's not open source you don't "own" it.08:22
trappistoNe^somewhere: sudo apt-get install nvclock08:22
DaBasshello i am geting this error: hroot: cannot08:22
DaBassexecute /bin/sh: No such file or directory08:22
trappistintelikey: you don't own it if it is open source.08:22
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Delvienintelikey umm, i own a copy of Adobe Photoshop cs208:22
DaBasscan somebody help me08:22
ThomasMDelvien: What are you using for 7? Wine?08:22
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AmaranthDelvien: Technically you own a license to use it, but yeah. :)08:23
ThomasMDaBass: The directory you're chrooting into doesn't have a program at bin/sh08:23
intelikeyDelvien did you read the "eula" ?08:23
DelvienThomasM Crossover office08:23
trappistDaBass: sounds like you're trying to chroot to a directory without a /bin/sh in it08:23
mlalkakatrappist, running the installer from the home directory didn't work. i guess i'll just copy all the files temporarily08:23
DaBassoh ok08:23
ThomasMDaBass: You have to duplicate some of the important bits in the target chroot directory.08:23
trappistmlalkaka: good luck with that :)08:23
ThomasMDaBass: tldp.org has a good HOWTO covering chrooting.08:23
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trappist!tell DaBass abount chroot08:24
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freakmanhow do you pronounce "ubuntu"?08:24
harrishahahhah that quote is great08:24
trappist!tell DaBass about chroot08:24
mlalkakabtw, what's the name of the bot in this channel (the equivalent of dpkg in #debian)?08:25
trappistmlalkaka: ubotu08:25
mlalkakatrappist, thanks08:25
trappistubotu: tell mlalkaka about yourself08:25
mlalkakatrappist, i've found these bots to invaluable08:26
DaBassthanks all08:26
trappistyeah ubotu's probably the best bot I've seen08:26
freakmandoes anyone know how to pronounce it? :-(08:26
oNe^somewheretrappist,  i done that ...now how do i run it lol (told ya i was a newbie)08:26
trappistwell-armed and all that08:26
x0rrrzAnybody use Proftpd?08:26
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Amaranthoo-bot-oo?08:26
trappistfreakman: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/pronunciation  <-- first google hit.  try harder.08:26
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rabeldablex0rrrz: yes08:27
mlalkakafreakman, i think it's pronounced oo-BOT-oo08:27
x0rrrzrabeldable: could you help me setup an account with it?08:27
andragmn kbr08:27
freakmantrappist: thanks :-)08:27
rabeldablex0rrrz: are you using local system account or did you setup a passwd file just for proftpd?08:27
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freakmanubuntu is hard to pronounce :-(08:27
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x0rrrzuhh local system08:28
pegasusdude version 5.10 has some issues it keeps on freezing up on me per say(the hard drive is still spinning but I cant use the mouse or keybord) I have a ok system 1ghz 256mb 7200rpm drives08:28
rabeldablex0rrrz: are you using ubuntu linux?08:28
x0rrrzbut i want others outside my network to be able to use it08:28
x0rrrzyes08:28
x0rrrzi am08:28
x0rrrzbreezy08:28
x0rrrz5.1008:28
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intelikey!return08:28
ubotuintelikey: Are you smoking crack?08:28
x0rrrzjust installed08:28
dylan_where do i get the w32codecs08:28
intelikey!enter08:28
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!08:28
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rabeldablex0rrrz: run this:  netstat -na | grep LIST08:28
andrahai08:28
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pegasusanyone else having issues08:29
x0rrrrrrrrrzk08:29
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rabeldablex0rrrz: did you install Proftpd and is it running?08:29
DaBassThomasM: can you tell me the "important bits"08:29
Amaranth!w32codecs08:29
ubotuhmm... w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil. You can get them by going to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, and looking for "The Codecs". Another possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntu.nl/08:29
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x0rrrrrrrrrzwhat am i looking for rabeldable?08:29
ThomasMDaBass: It's in that TLDP article. Let me grab you the link.08:29
DaBassok08:29
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rabeldablex0rrrz: your looking for somethng listening to port 2108:30
x0rrrrrrrrrzyes08:30
x0rrrrrrrrrzrabeldable: tcp        0        0,0,0,0:21               0.0.0.0.0*          LISTEN08:30
mlalkakatrappist, wouldn't the installation executable file have to be copied into the ram? so what if i forced the cd to unmount and then mounted the second cd (i feel stupid and ignorant, i know)?08:31
x0rrrrrrrrrztcp only, no steam08:31
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x0rrrrrrrrrzstream(08:31
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rabeldablex0rrrz: is it running as stand alone or inetd08:32
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trappistmlalkaka: if it copies itself to ram, you should be able to umount the cd fine.  if it runs from the cd, that won't work and forcing the issue will kill the installer.  it's pretty much a sucky problem, and you may actually have to patch your kernel (supermount) to get around it.08:32
nomad111wat software can i use to sync my ipod nano08:32
mlalkakatrappist, oh.08:32
x0rrrrrrrrrzhow do i tell rabeldable?08:32
trappistnomad111: gtkpod08:32
nomad111k thx08:32
x0rrrrrrrrrzi am sorry, i am new08:33
nomad111but does it convert ogg to the required format08:33
intelikeymlalkaka or cp the cds to hd and install from there.08:33
DelvienWell almost got Photoshop CS2 working... sigh08:33
ThomasMDaBass: Looks like what you mostly need is /bin/sh and /bin/ls.  You'll need more files and libraries depending on what you're trying to do with your chroot. What is it you're doing?08:33
nomad111coz ubuntu rps cd's in ogg format08:33
rabeldablex0rrrz: ps -ef | grep proftp08:33
mlalkakatrappist, i just found another solution (well it's actually a variant of the copy-cd solution): i can copy both cd's to different directories and use wine's dosdevices folder to create symlinks to these directories. so i would have a d: point to cd1 and e: point to cd208:33
trappist!nickometer x0rrrrrrrrrz08:33
ubotu'x0rrrrrrrrrz' is 99.77% lame, trappist08:33
rabeldablex0rrrz: should see: nobody   23260     1  0 23:32 ?        00:00:00 proftpd: (accepting connections)08:33
mlalkakaintelikey, that's what i'm doing now08:33
rabeldablesomething like that08:33
x0rrrrrrrrrzhow do i copy paste in terminal08:34
x0rrrrrrrrrznm08:34
rabeldable!paste08:34
ubotuwell, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text08:34
trappistmlalkaka: you know, I never thought of that.  that could work.08:34
bob2select, middle click08:34
Amaranthx0rrrrrrrrrz: Ctrl-Shift-V08:34
bob2just like all other traditional X apps08:34
x0rrrrrrrrrznobody    7802     1  0 Nov17 ?        00:00:00 proftpd: (accepting connections)mike     14176 14019  0 00:33 pts/0    00:00:00 grep proftp08:34
rabeldablex0rrrz: thats the stand alone configuration08:34
DShepherdwhere do I go to set the default app to lauch when my a music cd is inserted?08:35
rabeldablex0rrrz: you have a /etc/proftpd.conf file08:35
mlalkakatrappist, i was browsing the diablo II application DB on winehq.org (because diablo 2 also has a 2-3 cd installation) and a person in the forum used this method so i'll try it08:35
nomad111ok i need some srs help i got a problem with my ubuntu a serious one i think08:35
x0rrrrrrrrrzk08:35
x0rrrrrrrrrzopen it?08:35
nomad111and i need to dump sumthing in here08:35
rabeldablewait08:35
trappistmlalkaka: awesome.  let me know how it goes.08:35
intelikeyx0rrrrrrrrrz doesn't the mouse work ?      highlight  point where you want it and middle click(both click for only two button)08:35
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trappistnomad111: no, not in here.  see /topic08:35
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rabeldablex0rrrz: when you say you want users to connect over the network... do you want them to have unique usernames or do you want them to login anonymously08:36
blankyhey guys, do you know of any 'command line only' live distros that have G++ and emacs instlaled?08:36
x0rrrrrrrrrzunique usernames08:36
x0rrrrrrrrrzrabeldable and i want to be able to add people outside of the network aswell08:36
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x0rrrrrrrrrzwith unique usernames...08:36
nomad111trappist, how can i show the problem08:36
nomad111trappist, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl?08:36
bob2bah08:36
trappistnomad111: yes, like that08:36
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bob2ftp daemons should require you to answer a short quiz before they let you install them08:36
mbsso, we're stupid ... we're trying to set up ubuntu on an adaptec raid card ... any ideas on how the drives should be configured?08:37
trappistbob2: operating systems too08:37
mbsshould it be done before or after the os install?08:37
DShepherdwhere do I go to set the default app to lauch when my a music cd is inserted?08:37
DShepherdlaunch*08:37
mbs(it shows all 3 drives at the section about formatting, just pick the first or should we have the clustered together already?)08:37
bob2mbs: if it's a real raid card, ubuntu doesn't know or care about the arry08:37
trappistDShepherd: you don't.  linux doesn't poll for that.  but there are daemons out there that will do it for you.08:37
AmaranthDShepherd: It's in System->Preferences08:37
Terminusblanky, i'm not sure but i really love SLAX. best part is, if you don't like the defaults, you can always remaster it. :)08:37
trappistoh, was I wrong?08:37
intelikeydistros should start the install with 'man man '   and only go on if you read it.......  :)08:37
bob2mbs: if it's new, you need to set it up in advance, yes08:38
mbsbob2, so it should show just one logical device by the time ubuntu gets to it?08:38
kelbizzleAny one know how to add ad cd burner?08:38
Amaranthtrappist: hal + gnome-volume-manager08:38
bob2mbs: yes08:38
DShepherdtrappist: ok thanks08:38
trappistAmaranth: sweet.08:38
rabeldablex0rrrz: you can do it two ways... add the users to your system and when they login they will go to their home directory - or - you can create proftpd style directory tree with a custom password file just for proftpd, then the users can't access the system they can only access ftp08:38
dduckokelbizzle, Like how?  The software, or an actuall cd burner?08:38
trappistDShepherd: don't listen to me.  I was apparently misinformed.08:38
bob2mbs: assuming you're producing a single raid-5 or whatever volume out of the bunch of disks (which is the most common option I'd think)08:38
mbsbob2, gotcha, we're in the scsi select utility ... is that what we need to use normally or is there an aditional util people (adaptec) normally provide to do setup?08:38
kelbizzlethe actual burner08:38
DShepherdtrappist: ok...who am I supposed to listen to08:38
mbsbob2, yes08:38
trappistDShepherd: Amaranth08:38
bob2mbs: dunno, never used one :)08:38
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nomad111trappist, i pasted it can u plz hav a look i would really appreciate it08:39
x0rrrz2nd option plz rabeldable08:39
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trappistDShepherd: 01:37 <Amaranth> DShepherd: It's in System->Preferences08:39
dduckoInto the system,.  or is it already installed into the computer kelbizzle08:39
mbsbob2, thanks :) gonna go grep the adaptec site ... at least we now know what to do08:39
DShepherdAmaranth, trappist: checking now08:39
trappistnomad111: before I do can you summarize the problem for all of us?08:39
kelbizzleI Want to install it08:39
ThomasMDaBass: Get it all figured out?08:39
AmaranthDShepherd: prefered apps or something08:39
trappistnomad111: and while you're at it, provide a link to it? :)08:39
nomad111well i think im missing some vital files like for cups and all that08:39
DaBassnope08:39
dduckoYou have a Space for it already or replacing a drive? kelbizzle08:40
DaBassu said youll give me a link08:40
nomad111something must hav happend when i was installing ubuntu08:40
kelbizzlei have space08:40
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nomad111trappist, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/477408:40
ThomasMDaBass: And I explained what you needed and asked you for more information. If you don't respond for 5 minutes, I assume you have nothing more to add. :)08:40
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DShepherdAmaranth: it only covers 3 sections.. web browser, gnome-terminal and mail reader.. no music cd there08:40
DaBassTHomasM ?08:40
trappistnomad111: if you're missing system files, sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update.  then if you're missing a file, apt-file search <file> to see what package needs to be (re)installed08:40
dduckokelbizzle,  /join #dzdsytems08:40
ThomasMDaBass: Read your scroll or something. I'm not here to parrot at you and repeat myself until you notice.08:41
DShepherdAmaranth: ah...checking removable drives..08:41
DaBassThomasM I did not get anything08:41
nomad111trappist, thats thing i dunno wat files need to be installed08:41
ThomasMDaBass: I'll be helpful, but I won't hold your hand.08:41
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GTroyguys is there a installed ftp app?08:41
trappistnomad111: oh, I see, it never got completely installed.  unfortunately the output you pasted isn't enough for me to know why.  it basically just says it failed.08:41
DaBassThomasM where did you explain?08:41
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x0rrrzgFTP i think comes installed08:42
ThomasMGTroy: 'ftp' should work on any system. I prefer 'lftp' to just about anything.08:42
nomad111trappist, so basically i need a new copy of ubuntu08:42
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nomad111trappist, coz im pretty sure the copy i ahd was corrupt08:42
GTroythanks08:42
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DaBassThomasM could this be a probel: "Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems,"08:42
nomad111i need to get yum08:42
nomad111i dunno how to use sudo or watever08:43
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ThomasMDaBass: I don't send private messages without asking, as I consider it rude. You asked a question in the channel. I respond in the channel.08:43
x0rrrzrabeldable can you help me set it up so they can only get to the directory tree without getting on the system?08:43
x0rrrzaccess to the system*08:43
rabeldablex0rrrz: I can give you the informatio you need to do it yourself will that work?08:43
trappistDaBass: keep relevant discussions on the channel so everyone can benefit.08:43
x0rrrzyes08:44
x0rrrzthank you rabeldable08:44
rabeldablex0rrrz: k give me another minute08:44
BigKahunajoin #opensuse08:44
x0rrrzok08:44
oNe^somewheretrappist .. i have the nvclock installed but dont know how to run it08:44
x0rrrzI appreciate this08:44
trappistoNe^somewhere: neither do I08:44
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AmaranthBigKahuna: That looks like spam...08:44
DaBasstrappist that's what i intendet08:44
trappistoNe^somewhere: I assume you'd run 'nvclock'08:44
BigKahunalooks like a typo to me.08:44
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oNe^somewherein a terminal ?08:44
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trappistoNe^somewhere: yes... just a guess08:45
DaBassThomasM u said u'd give me a link and i was waiting08:45
AmaranthBigKahuna: Ah, I thought you were telling people to join. :)08:45
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ThomasMDaBass: Please just read through your scrollback, or search it (which any useful client should support). When you answer the questions I asked you in response, we'll continue.08:45
toblerpi run ubuntu breezy on my laptop and i'm trying to play dvds (libdvdcss2 is installed) but totem, mplayer and xine need the power of the whole cpu and there is a lot of framedrop. what can i do that i can watch movies?08:45
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matsavhalevcan anyone help? I get the error smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts. What do i do?08:46
ThomasMtoblerp: Are you using a video driver specific to your device or a generic one?08:46
trappistmatsavhalev: sudo smbmount <args>08:46
toblerpi'm using the ati generic one, not fglrx08:46
matsavhalevtrappist: can i change it to not be only for root?08:47
toblerpi got the same results with fglrx, though08:47
trappisttoblerp: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdX where hdX is your dvd08:47
toblerpdma was deactivated??08:47
trappisttoblerp: most likely08:47
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toblerplol08:48
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toblerpworks perfectly08:48
trappist:)08:48
toblerpthanks08:48
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DaBassThomasM sorry my bad08:48
toblerpi didn't even check if dma was activated because i thought it was on08:49
DaBassThomasM i am trying to install edubuntu over network08:49
DShepherdAmaranth: trappist, System - Prefs - Removable media works for setting the default program launch for audio cds.. I seemingly...many other kool stuff08:49
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rabeldable!paste08:49
ubotuwell, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text08:49
ThomasMDaBass: And why do you need chroot?08:49
ThomasMDaBass: To install it in a certain portion of your drive?08:50
rabeldablex0rrrz: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/477608:51
x0rrrzthank you rabeldable08:51
x0rrrznow do i put that in my .conf file08:51
x0rrrzor go to links/08:51
DaBassThomasM nope i was installing acording to this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WithFloppies?highlight=%28install%2908:52
toblerpIDENTIFY08:52
rabeldablego to the links.... read up on this its important to understand.08:52
x0rrrzok08:52
x0rrrzthanks08:52
Swedish_Chefhow do i disable the grouping of similar tasks in the taskbar?08:52
trappistDShepherd: awesome, maybe I'm missing out on some cool stuff by using kde08:52
rabeldablex0rrrz: the easier way is to create individual users on your system and remove the shell from their /etc/passwd entry08:52
DShepherdtrappist: maybe you are08:53
x0rrrz....huh? lol08:53
rabeldablethat way they can not login to your system but they can use ftp...08:53
trappistrabeldable: I use pure-ftpd but if you set the shell to (say) /bin/false ftp doesn't work08:53
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x0rrrzim not going to be able to figrue this out rofl08:54
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trappistx0rrrz: it might be a good idea to get a better handle on linux before trying to run a public ftp server08:56
x0rrrzi dont want it to be public08:56
x0rrrzjust few users on08:56
x0rrrzfriends pretty uch08:56
rabeldablex0rrrz:  is it on the net?08:56
trappistx0rrrz: it'll still be public, unless these friends are on your private network08:56
BigKahunaIt's a little of topic - but what app will allow me to reverse encode and avi file back into 'DVD' format?08:56
x0rrrzyes its on the net08:56
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trappistx0rrrz: on the net == public08:57
x0rrrzk08:57
DaBassThomasM i've put ls and sh there and nothing has changed08:57
rabeldablex0rrrz: what are you confused about?08:57
trappistx0rrrz: who you want to get on and who can get on aren't the same thing08:57
rabeldablex0rrrz: do you use ssh?08:57
x0rrrzuhhh08:58
x0rrrzidk08:58
x0rrrzprobably not if its not default08:58
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x0rrrzi have vnc installed08:59
x0rrrzso people can get on08:59
x0rrrzi know that08:59
x0rrrzlike people can get on and use my computer08:59
rabeldablex0rrrz: read this.... http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/usc20_essentials.html08:59
ghostpsalmhow do you switch between kernel images?08:59
trappistx0rrrz: please, please turn that off and spend a little time learning linux before you start running servers08:59
keeb!apache08:59
ubotu[apache]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom08:59
x0rrrzi try09:00
keeb!php09:00
ubotusomebody said lamp was Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP09:00
x0rrrzim not good at selt teach09:00
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trappistrabeldable: that's an awesome link09:00
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rabeldablehttp://www.cert.org is a good site09:01
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Fritzhi09:01
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DaBassTHomasM r u still there?09:02
rabeldablex0rrrz:  here is the complete checklist:  http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/usc20_full.html09:02
matsavhalevrabeldable: thanks for the link...09:02
x0rrrzusc = ?09:03
x0rrrzoh09:03
x0rrrzunix security checklist09:03
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x0rrrzrabeldable thats a lot of reading rofl09:03
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Fritzcan anybody answer what I hope should be a quick question about ubuntu server?09:03
rabeldablex0rrrz: one suggestion, don't allow people with vnc to connect to your linux box... require ssh09:03
dduckoLots of good information09:03
matsavhalevsecuritywise if i have guarddog configured correctly is there much to worry about running an apache server?09:04
matsavhalevto the internet09:04
x0rrrzhow do i do that?09:04
x0rrrzis it easy?09:04
rabeldable!ssh09:04
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto09:04
matsavhalevssh is great!09:04
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Karat3hi09:04
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echoHello09:04
Fritzis there a command for ubuntu that basically reruns through the main configuration, including rescanning hardware?09:05
x0rrrzso rabeldable once i do all of that ssh is installed and will automatically work?09:05
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x0rrrzi wont have to worry about running a program or something09:05
matsavhalevX0rrrz: just sudo apt-get install openssh-server should have it up and running09:05
Karat3Question: is debootstrap on a ubuntu cd different to the version on a debian cd (meaning is it a good idea to install debian with an ubuntu cd as i have bo debian cd?)09:05
FritzI know there is a command like that in debian, it is something like "dpkg-reconfigure system" but I can't remember the exact syntax and I haven't had luck googling it09:05
tekeoI need to update my kernel, but I don't know how to...09:05
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bob2Karat3: for that it is fine09:06
bob2Karat3: (aside fro mthe fact ubuntu's debootstrap might be out of date)09:06
bob2Fritz: er, there's nothing to rescan09:06
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bob2Fritz: hotplug does a full usb/pci/firewire scan on each boot09:06
Fritzbob2> so my network card died and I needed to put in a new one, but it's not coming up09:06
bob2Fritz: then find out why09:06
FritzI know the new card is compatible because it shows up witha new install09:07
Karat3bob2: last time i tried this i finally found xorg installed on my debian sarge, how can this be?09:07
bob2Fritz: pci devices should be detected on boot (hints: dmesg and lspci output)09:07
Fritzbob, any idea where to start?09:07
x0rrrrrrrrrzok thanks09:07
Fritzok09:07
rabeldablex0rrrz:  yes it will, but to restrict access to the system you need to look at the sshd_config file to limit the users that can ssh in09:07
bob2Karat3: sounds like you invoked debootstrap wrong09:07
x0rrrzlimit it to 1?09:07
tekeothe kernel updateing09:07
FritzI'll take a look through them, I tried manually running modprobe but no output09:07
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DaBassanybody knows about an easy way to do ubuntu netinstall09:07
rabeldablex0rrrz:  sure, you only allow your user to connect using ssh09:08
echoIs there a default ftp server packaged with ubuntu?09:08
bob2echo: nope09:08
bob2Fritz: modprobe never prints anything unless it went wrong09:08
bob2DaBass: get a free cd from shipit.ubuntu.com09:08
x0rrrzm..09:08
vbgunzanybody here use devilspie? I just started using it and love it! I have a question though... As I am testing the script I enter "killall devilspie" then to restart it and test a new config "devilspie &"... The only problem is, when I close out the terminal, I seem to also shutdown devilspie... How to make it persistant?09:08
bob2echo: there are dozens available, of course; I don't know of any reason to use anything aside from proftpd or vsftpd.09:08
DaBassbob2 i have the cd i don't have cdrom09:09
echoAny recommendations for an ftpd for ubuntu?09:09
yivbgunz: nohup devilspie09:09
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DaBassbob2 no way to boot only floppies09:09
bob2DaBass: no09:09
vbgunzyi, thanks for the hint!09:09
x0rrrrrrrrrzok installed09:09
rabeldablex0rrrz:  now if you do:  netstat -na | grep LIST09:09
x0rrrzis their an easy ftp server than proftpd?09:09
Karat3bob2: in example?09:10
rabeldablex0rrrz: you should see port 22 listening, thats ssh09:10
x0rrrrrrrrrzshows same thing09:10
bob2x0rrrz: you'd need to define "easy"; proftpd is trivial to get going09:10
x0rrrrrrrrrztcp609:10
bob2(ie it works when you install it)09:10
x0rrrrrrrrrzwhatever tcp6 is09:10
vbgunzyi: it works, "no hangups" major thanks!09:10
DaBassbob2 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WithFloppies?highlight=%28install%2909:10
Fritzbob> ok, according to dmesg it's detected and activated successfully using 8139too but it doesn't show up in ifconfig09:10
bob2Fritz: "ifconfig -a"09:11
tekeox0rrrz: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installftpserver it's proftpd but a guide how to use etc09:11
ghostpsalmI have two kernels in my /boot; when I chroot it uses the wrong one - how do I change this?09:11
DaBassbob2 but i got stuck on chroot09:11
Karat3bob2: i mean, how can this be done wrong? i just specified the mirror server of debian.09:12
bob2ghostpsalm: kernels have nothing to do with the chroot command09:12
bob2Karat3: I don't know what command line you used09:12
Fritzbob> thanks, it was there the whole time, so I just need to configure it09:12
bob2DaBass: stuck = ?09:12
tekeocan any1 help me with my kernel updating...09:12
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bob2DaBass: also, network boot is probably simpler09:12
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bob2tekeo: not unless you ask a question...09:13
ghostpsalmbob2: I chroot into my system, and the type 'uname -a' and it says the wrong image..?09:13
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DaBassbob2 i have pcmcia ethernet, does that work with it?09:13
Karat3bob2: debootstrap woody /mnt http://source.rfc822.org/debian09:13
bob2ghostpsalm: it shows different values depending on whether you're in the chroot or not?09:13
Karat3err09:13
Karat3bob2: debootstrap sarge /mnt http://server/debian09:13
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tekeobob2: how to update the kernel09:13
Fritzbob, is there a dpk-reconfigure for networking?09:14
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bob2tekeo: what do you mean "update"?09:14
tekeo?09:14
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bob2Fritz: no. also, etherconf.09:14
DaBassbob2 stuck: it gives me error cannot exxecute09:14
bob2DaBass: that's not a literal error message09:14
tekeobob2:I need a newer version of the kernel09:14
bob2tekeo: why?09:14
bob2tekeo: you need to provide a ton more detail before I can give you a useful answer09:14
tekeobob2: installing the new broadcom drivers for linux09:15
bob2Karat3: ok, I do not know how that could install x.org in /mnt/09:15
bob2tekeo: um09:15
DaBassbob2 chroot: cannot execute /bin/sh: No such file or directory09:15
bob2tekeo: if you don't know how to change your kernel version, I don't htink playing with alpha drivers is a very hot idea09:15
bob2DaBass: that means you haven't installed your chroot correctly (ie /bin/sh does not exist within it)09:15
nomad111how can i make the font in ubuntu brighter and more readable09:15
nomad111i dun like anti-aliased fonts09:15
nomad111i like sharp edged fonts09:16
bob2nomad111: so disable it09:16
nomad111how09:16
ghostpsalmbob2: Oke, thanks for that - same both ways.  I want to see my software raid in my chroot env. so I can install GRUB to it's MBR, the 'dmsetup status' tells me I need to enable the 'device-mapper' drvier to do so?09:16
bob2nomad111: system -> [preferences -> font09:16
tekeobob2: not?09:16
nomad111i got vision disability09:16
bob2tekeo: ?09:16
johnnybezakhey guys09:16
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bob2ghostpsalm: do you have /proc and /sys mounted in the chroot?09:16
tekeobob2: is it better to wait for stable drivers?09:16
ghostpsalmbob2: Yes.09:16
DaBassbob2 u mean within the target dir?09:16
bob2tekeo: yes09:17
bob2DaBass: yes09:17
nomad111bob2, im looking at this pdf and the font is so thin, good size but thin wat can i do for that09:17
bob2nomad111: that's a problem with the pdf, you'll need to tweak your pdf reader (or just zoom in)09:17
johnnybezaki've got a question, when I try and eject my ipod it wount eject it. to get rid of the "do not disconnect" message on the ipod i have to do a "sudo eject /dev/sda*" and I find that this corrupts my iPod library and makes the ipod read only. Anyone got any ideas to fix this?09:17
tekeobob2: what can possibly go so wrong that it's not worth a try?09:18
bob2tekeo: making your system unbootable?09:18
DaBassbob2 ThomasM told me that all I should need would be /bin/sh /bin/ls and i copied those two is there anything else i have to do?09:18
NoUsejohnnybezak, what are you using to eject the ipod?09:18
bob2tekeo: also, it would take a very long time for someone to teach you to compile your own kernel, which is a bit silly for so little gain09:18
bob2DaBass: uh09:18
ThomasMDaBass: I told you how to create a basic chroot. Please don't put words in my mouth.09:18
ghostpsalmbob2: '/proc/devices: fopen failed: No such file or directory'; when I run the dmsetup status...09:18
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bob2DaBass: debootstrap puts all you need in there09:19
DaBassThomasM sorry did not want to09:19
bob2ghostpsalm: does it exist in|out of the chroot?09:19
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ghostpsalmbob2: It works perfectly outside of the chroot.09:19
ThomasMI did not want to type it! Somebody made me! Meh.09:19
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tekeo bob2: I can compile my own kernel, but mayB I don't know exactly which things to enable/disable09:19
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bob2tekeo: which is the problem09:20
tekeo bob2: huh?09:20
johnnybezakNoUse: I have used a few different things Nautilus, Banshee09:20
bob2tekeo: yes, that is the only source of difficulty in building a kernel09:20
tekeo bob2: the problem is that I want to update my kernel and get my wireless card to work...09:20
DaBassTHomasM i meant to interpret it the best way i know, i am a newbie i did not want to mess up your words09:20
NoUsejohnnybezak, I usually just right click on the icon on the desktop or in Computer and click unmount and it works like a charm, which version of ubuntu are you using?09:20
bob2tekeo: actually compiling it is trivial, the hard part is configuring it correctly09:20
bob2tekeo: I'm not sure what that has to do with anything; can't you use ndiswrapper?09:21
tekeobob2: no09:21
ThomasMDaBass: Stop worrying about my poor self and go read up on deboostrap. :)09:21
echoWhats the difference in Apache and Apache2?09:21
bob2echo: one is maintained and supported in ubuntu, one is not09:21
Xenguyecho: the former is a previous version09:21
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tekeobob2: how long do you think it will take before a stable driver is released?09:22
rabeldabletekeo: you can always go to ##kernelnewbies or #kernel09:22
echoWhich one does ubuntu support?09:22
ThomasMapache209:22
bob2tekeo: it has been several years now09:22
bob2echo: apache209:22
echothx09:22
johnnybezakNoUse: breezy09:23
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tekeobob2: well thanks anyway ;)09:23
bob2tekeo: why can't you use ndiswrapper?09:23
keebheya guys09:23
keebsmall problem it seems09:23
tekeobob2: never used it09:23
tekeobob2: I can possibly use it09:23
keebi got mysql installed correctly and it's configured correctly with php509:23
keebbut i can't seem to login09:23
keebusing my name/pass09:23
NoUsejohnnybezak, what error do you get when you click the "unmount" open in nautilus?09:23
bob2tekeo: um09:24
rabeldablekeeb: is mysql running?09:24
keebrabeldable, yes09:24
keebphpinfo shows that everything is set up correctly09:24
johnnybezakNoUse: im just gonna check09:24
bob2tekeo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper09:24
rabeldablekeeb: what version of mysql?09:24
ThomasMkeeb: Can you login from the console?09:24
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keebah, guys09:24
keebi know why.09:24
keebi was trying to login as keeb, my bash login09:25
keebas soon as i logged in as root/nopass09:25
keebit went through fine09:25
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keebthanks for brainstorming with me ;)09:25
rabeldablekeeb: nopass is a bad thing09:25
bob2tekeo: btw, asking, I guess, functional questions can lead to quicker help; if you'd come in and said "How can I make my broadcom wireless card work?", you could have had it working by now ;)09:25
keebof course, it just got installed, rabeldable09:26
tekeobob2: probably09:26
keeblike 3 mins ago. d;] 09:26
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kelbizzleDoes anyone know why xmms will freeze up after trying to play a shoutcast stream from streamtuner09:26
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rabeldablekeeb: i'm glad you know :)09:26
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rabeldablekelbizzle: network problems09:26
tekeobob2: this was the one I was thinking of, http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/09:27
mlalkakatrappist, the dosdevices solution worked. i created a symlink called e: that pointed to /tmp/swat3-1. when it asked for cd2, i deleted the symlink and created e: again, except i made it point to /tmp/swat3-2 (i guess i could have made it point to /media/cdrom0 for one of the cd's and it still would have worked. that way, i would only have to copy one cd instead of two). i ran the installation program as `wine e:\INSTALL.EXE`09:27
kelbizzleit downloads and allbut just doesnt play.09:27
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johnnybezakkelbizzle: try running xmms from the cli, and see what it outputs when it hangs09:27
kelbizzlehow do I do the feed from the cli09:28
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rabeldablekelbizzle: just run xmms, it will load the gui app09:28
tekeobob2: thanks and have a nice time09:28
rabeldablekelbizzle: from CLI : xmms09:28
johnnybezakkelbizzle: type xmms in gnome-terminal09:28
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Fritzthanks bob2, I got myself so stuck on thinking it wasn't working, I didn't even try applying a config to it09:28
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rabeldablekelbizzle: if it fails or hangs messages will be in the gnome-terminal09:29
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kelbizzlewheres the gnome terminal09:30
rob_pkelbizzle:  /usr/bin/gnome-terminal09:31
Madpilotkelbizzle: Applications menu - Accessories - Terminal09:31
HappyFoolin front of the gnome in canonical hq09:31
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johnnybezakNoUse: from nautilus, unable to eject media. eject: unable to eject, last error: invalid argument09:32
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bob2hm, someone should buy a garden gnome for the canonical hq09:32
bob2now it's not just mark's lounge room09:32
Xenguyjohnnybezak: dunno - tried 'eject' from the commandline?09:32
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johnnybezakXenguy: yeah, it corrupts the iPod library and makes it read only09:33
Xenguylovely09:33
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NoUsejohnnybezak, yeah you should report that, in the mean time you can use the umount /media/ipod or whatever to unmount it first09:34
DaBassbob2 i did /usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch i386 breezy /target ftp://10.0.0.2 it has exited with usage: /usr/lib/debootstrap/pkgdetails pkg mirror packages_file09:34
kelbizzlenothing happend when i typed xmms09:34
NoUsejohnnybezak, then you should be able to eject no prob09:34
rabeldablekelbizzle: try xmms -m09:35
ThomasMNoUse: Unless something has a file open from the iPod.09:35
NoUseThomasM, well yeah09:35
kelbizzlenothing09:35
ThomasMNoUse: Might want to include an 'lsof' caveat.09:35
johnnybezakNoUse: hmm yeah this is preetty wierd though, it shouldn't be happening09:36
DaBassTHomasM i did /usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch i386 breezy /target ftp://10.0.0.2 it has exited with usage: /usr/lib/debootstrap/pkgdetails pkg mirror packages_file09:36
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johnnybezakkelbizzle: do you get the same problems with Beep? If not, might be worth just using Beep they're identical anyway09:37
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kelbizzlei dont have beep installed09:37
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ThomasMDaBass: Yes. I saw it the first time. No need to parrot. BTW, when you address messages to a specific person, people assume you're talking just to them. Just because somebody specific helped you 10-30 minutes ago doesn't mean somebody else can't/won't help.09:37
echoI'm trying to create an account for pftpd and I recieve File Creation Faile "No such file or directory".09:38
johnnybezakkelbizzle: sudo apt-get install beep-media-player :) it's basically xmms, built on gtk209:38
bob2echo: ...when using adduser?09:38
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echono, through gui.09:38
NoUsejohnnybezak, there seem to be some decent threads on ubuntuforums pertaining to this but yeah file a bug09:38
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dylan_how do i speed up page printing time in ubuntu?09:39
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kelbizzlewill the streams open automatically from streamtuner09:39
kelbizzleor will I have to change something09:39
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DaBassTHomasM see nobody wants/will09:40
johnnybezakNoUse: ok, to this in particular?09:40
NoUsejohnnybezak, yeah09:40
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kelbizzlebeep doesnt open for me.09:40
johnnybezakNoUse: I'll have a look09:40
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kelbizzleI suck :-/09:41
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ThomasMDaBass: A lot of that is because this stuff is fairly well documented. Nobody really feels like explaining to you something that's been explained over and over.09:41
ThomasM!debootstrap09:41
organgrinderalright, I have been having some issues -- a lot of things say 'as root user' for installs (cedega) however, there is no root user as far as I can tell. How do I go about doing these installs ='(09:42
kelbizzleI'm giving up for thenight09:42
johnnybezakNoUse: it's wierd, maybe there is something wrong with my iPod, I just reformatted it and it's still being wierd09:42
Madpilotorgangrinder: with sudo09:42
kelbizzlenight guys09:42
Madpilot!tell organgrinder about sudo09:42
rob_pkelbizzle:  Try, "killall xmms; xmms" and it will (hopefully) close any non-responsive xmms instances before trying to start a new one.09:42
NoUsejohnnybezak, which generation ipod is it?09:42
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johnnybezakits a 2g iPod mini09:42
kelbizzleok09:42
organgrinderthanks09:42
johnnybezakNoUse: works fine on the gf's mac09:42
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NoUsejohnnybezak, of course it works on a mac :-)09:43
echoIs there a default user name and passwd for pftpd?09:43
NoUsejohnnybezak, it could be that it's a very new ipod and that support is still iffy on Linux09:43
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NoUsejohnnybezak, mine is only a 15 GB gen 2 or 309:43
kelbizzleok it opens.09:43
kelbizzleDoes the prebuffer thing09:43
keebdoes anyone have an idea on a tool i should use with ubuntu/mysql for creating tables and stuff in a GUI?09:43
kelbizzlebut doesnt play09:44
johnnybezakNoUse: yeah i'm sort of thinking out loud as to what the prob could be09:44
kelbizzleNow If I click play09:44
kelbizzleit will freeze up\09:44
johnnybezakNoUse: it's not *that* new though09:44
rabeldablekelbizzle: any messages in the terminal window?09:44
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kelbizzlenope09:44
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ThomasMkeeb: Look into a package called 'mysql-admin'.09:45
NoUsejohnnybezak, the nano came out only a few weeks before Breezy was released09:45
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rabeldablekelbizzle: try to stream this http://64.202.98.51:639009:45
rabeldablekelbizzle: I'm currently listening to that stream with no problems09:45
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rob_pkelbizzle:  It's probably a configuration error or missing codec.  Anyway, you'll probably have to manually kill the process any time it does that, before trying to open a new one, until you get it figured out.09:46
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johnnybezakNoUse: i've got a mini not a nano, did i say nano?09:46
NoUsejohnnybezak, oh I'm sorry, not thinking09:47
ThomasMkeeb: I also see something called 'mysql-navigator'.09:47
NoUsejohnnybezak, yeah I'd file a report with as much info as you can09:47
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kelbizzleyea it's probably a codec thing09:48
DaBassTHoomaM neither the bot knows about it ;-)09:48
kelbizzleI still cant even play mp3's09:48
kelbizzleThanks guys for all your help09:48
kelbizzleI'm going to bed.09:48
ThomasMDaBass: And if the bot doesn't know, it must be rare knowledge indeed, requiring arcane information not found on google.09:49
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dEbUn2I don't believe it's a codec issue -- I had the same issue several months ago but can't for the life of me remember what I did to correct the problem09:49
rabeldablexmms installed for me without any extra steps...09:50
rabeldablenow watching a dvd was more complicated09:50
dEbUn2indeed -- however, on one my installs, there was a bit of tweaking involved09:50
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rob_pdEbUn2:  Probably wrong audio output plugin selected!  I was going to mention it to him but he left!09:51
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dEbUn2I believe that's correct...09:51
rob_pdEbUn2:  I've seen that cause apparent lock-ups with xmms.09:51
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Stevmanokeeeh.09:52
Stevmanhelp meeees09:52
ghostpsalmI am trying to install grub into the MBR from a chroot onto a SATA RAID, however I get this error message:09:52
ghostpsalm"/proc/devices: fopen failed: No such file or directory.09:52
ghostpsalm Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel?".  Can anyone help me?09:52
ghostpsalm(oops)09:52
ThomasMghostpsalm: You'll have to mount a /proc inside of the chroot.09:53
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agtnzhi - whats a good image viewer for linux. has to show animated .gifs, too09:53
ghostpsalmThomasM: It is mounted, 'mount' says so.09:53
ThomasMghostpsalm: Inside the chroot?09:53
echoI cant creat a password file for pftpd, also i have anonymous enabled in the pftpd.conf but still cant connect09:53
ghostpsalmThomasM: Yes.09:53
Lathiatghostpsalm: from outside the chroot, mount -t proc proc /path/to/chroot/proc09:53
Fritzagtnz, are you running kde or gnome?09:53
Stevmancan anyone help me dual booting Ubuntu and XP on a SATA Raid (or point me in a direction of a guide or two)...09:53
keebthanks thomas09:53
thoreauputicgthumb , or commandline imagemagick ( animate)09:53
Lathiatghostpsalm: also, it might be easier just to install from outside the chroot09:54
[linner] thoreauputic:  hi sweetie :)09:54
Lathiatghostpsalm: look at -R to grub09:54
agtnzFritz: xfce, but mostly gnome apps09:54
thoreauputic[linner] : hey - where have you been? :))09:54
[linner] working... got a new job. ;)09:54
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thoreauputicah09:54
[linner] i've been looking for you09:55
[linner] haven't seen you either in quite a while09:55
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Fritzagtnz, most of the image viewers on my system are kde based, the only full featured non-kde one I have is thumber09:56
agtnzFritz: thx :) i might google a bit09:56
Fritzthere is a program called "eye of gnome" which is supposed to be very good, but I haven't used it personally09:57
Xenguyalso gqview is worth a look09:57
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Stevmananyone successfully dual booted XP and Ubuntu on a Sata Raid?09:59
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ghostpsalmLathiat/ThomasM:  Mounting proc outside chroot worked, now I get this error: 'ERROR: opening "/dev/mapper/via_cfdehjfb"' When I attempt to run dmraid.09:59
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ghostpsalmStevman: I am trying!09:59
LathiatStevman: youll find your sata raid is fakeraid which may be causign some issues10:00
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Stevmanghostpsalm: cool. We'll trade progress when I get into it :p10:00
Stevman^_^10:00
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holy_cowhey guys, what drivers do i need to know about to recompile for usb support?10:01
ghostpsalmLathiat:  I mounted /proc, and /sys from outside the chrooot, and now I am in it - the /proc/devices has gone, now DMRAID just does not make the RAID avaliable from /dev/mapper/ ?10:01
holy_cowevery distro including sarge can see my usb port on a particular machine, and i don't think i have a choice but to consider doing something along those lines10:02
ThomasMholy_cow: The stock kernel should have USB support. What has you compiling your own?10:02
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holy_cowthis is debian/ubuntu, drivers are NOT built into the kernel10:02
holy_cowwhat do you mean what has me compiling on my own? is my question in a foreign language?10:03
dEbUn2...10:03
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nomad111is any1 familiar with bearshare10:04
nomad111are there any p2p software for ubuntu10:04
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holy_cowyou mean for stealing copyrighted material?10:04
holy_cowlol :)10:04
nomad111nope10:04
ThomasMholy_cow: I'm sorry. I was asking a perfectly legitimate question. Your comment before came one second before mine--as in, not even time to notice before I pressed enter. But now that you've gotten rude, you can find a way to fix it without any of my help.10:05
holy_cowthere are torrent clients10:05
nomad111but isnt there anything like shareaza10:05
nomad111or kazaa10:05
ThomasM"God, let's all be little asses to the people trying to help, that'll make them really want to keep it up."10:05
holy_cowThomasM, the general rule is that when people ask someone to repeat their question it means no help is forthcoming anyway for a whole number of reasons10:05
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holy_cowi've rarely been surprised10:06
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holy_cowThomasM, no all i ask is that you read, it's that simple10:06
ThomasMholy_cow: I was asking the "why" of your question, as your question didn't actually specify why you had a problem with standard support.10:06
holy_cowactually it did, see, now i'm having to explain the original post10:06
NoUse!p2p10:06
ubotufrom memory, p2p is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo10:06
ThomasMholy_cow: Go find a quiet corner and fuck yourself, seriously.10:06
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Stevmanwhat are you talking about10:07
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Stevmanthere is amule10:07
Stevmanthere is limewire10:07
dEbUn2http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#limewire10:07
Stevmanthere is a bunch of dc++ clients10:07
Stevman8are10:07
NoUse!ubuntuguide10:07
ubotumethinks ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.10:07
Stevman*are10:07
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SeveasdEbUn2, stay as far away from ubuntuguide as you can10:08
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dEbUn2Seveas: thanks! heh -- I've got my own canabalized version that I still reference from time to time.. But yes, it probably should just go away10:10
AlexGanacheI am going to...10:10
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Stevmanbrb... gotta restart10:10
locomortohmm, I find that using alien on the rpm files and installing the debs works really well10:10
AlexGanacheHow is everyone?10:10
locomortoAnd you get the menu enteries as well10:10
locomortogood AlexGanache10:10
dEbUn2alien is nice!~10:10
johnnybezakguys i've got a bunch of directories and in those directories is a sub directory of thumbnails and i want to get rid of them. i tried to use the gnome "find" and then remove them, but it won't let me because they're not empty. I don't know how to do this from the cli, without writing a script. anyone got any ideas?10:10
Seveaslocomorto, depends completely on the quality of the .deb files10:10
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AlexGanacheUm, can anyone tell me why my computer will just stop during certain phases of installation?10:11
locomortoSeveas: I was referring to the example of limewire10:11
Seveasjohnnybezak, rm -rf map/10:11
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Seveaslocomorto, ah ok :)10:11
drcodeany one know how can I limit outgoing bandwith in postfix ?10:11
johnnybezak@Seveas: whats the map/ ?10:11
drcodeit eat all my bandwith10:11
Seveasthe folder you want to delete10:11
dEbUn2the almighty -rf argument! ;)10:11
ghostpsalmIs anyone familiar with DMRAID?10:11
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Seveas(sorry, just awake and I'm in half-dutch-half-english mode =))10:12
johnnybezakdEbUn2: that's why i'm being careful before i just put it in their10:12
johnnybezak@Seveas: so is just type rm -rf thumbs/ ?10:12
AlexGanacheAnyone?10:12
Seveasyeah10:12
SeveasAlexGanache, because it is lazy10:12
johnnybezakAlexGanache: when does it stop? what do you mean stop?10:13
AlexGanachelol10:13
rabeldabledrcode: edit the master.cf file to limit outbound and inbound messages10:13
Seveas(not giving info means not getting answers since we cannot possiblt know anything about it)10:13
AlexGanacheIt just... freezes... longer than ten minutes at either Partitioning or installing base system10:13
AlexGanacheThe CPU thinking light is on but nothing is happening10:13
drcodethanx10:13
drcodeI Will check it out10:14
anavimAlexGanache, and then what... does it continue?10:14
trappistAlexGanache: does it ever recover?10:14
SeveasAlexGanache, partitioning is a step with little visible activity if you repartition10:14
Seveasinstalling base ssytem might get slow on an old machine10:14
johnnybezak@Seveas: ten minutes is  a while though10:14
Seveasso some system specs may help :)10:14
AlexGanacheI have gotten it through partitioning and it goes fast.10:14
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anavimAlexGanache, so do you have a problem you need to solve, or are you just curious?10:14
tenzinhi10:15
trappistAlexGanache: I had a box once that did that.  or rather, I had a scanner once that generated so much bogus kernel message traffic that it caused it on any box it was connected to.10:15
johnnybezakhey10:15
drcoderabeldable: where what I line I Need to change?10:15
AlexGanacheWell, I dont know!  It seems that something is amiss that would cause it to freeze or something.10:15
AlexGanacheShould I just go to bed and let in run.10:15
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anavimAlexGanache, so how long has it been sitting on a step, and what step is it on?  what's the processor speed?10:16
trappistAlexGanache: I would try booting to a livecd and partitioning from there and watching dmesg if it behaves similarly10:16
johnnybezakAlexGanache: proabably safest10:16
DaBassdoes ubuntu have basedebs.tar and where can i download it from10:16
AlexGanacheok, It is at 9% partitioning right now and isnt doing anything.10:17
AlexGanache600MHZ lol old I know.10:17
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anavimAlexGanache, for how long?10:17
AlexGanachehmm it has been about.. 3 minutes so far.10:17
dEbUn2how big is the drive?10:18
anavimAlexGanache, doesn't seem like a problem.. yet10:18
rabeldabledrcode: http://www.postfix.org/rate.html10:18
drcodethanx10:18
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AlexGanachethe drive is 10 GB10:18
anavimAlexGanache, personally, I would give it another 15 minutes before I get worried10:18
anavimAlexGanache, with it indicating 9%, that is10:19
AlexGanacheIt goes from partitioning to installing on its own right?10:19
SeveasDaBass, what would be in basedebs.tar?10:19
SeveasAlexGanache, yes10:19
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AlexGanachehmm then perhaps I will just go to bed.10:19
Seveasg'night :)10:20
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AlexGanacheill be back tomorrow to complain some more :)10:20
Seveas:)10:20
dEbUn2we're here to help.... Errr, at least try!10:21
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AlexGanachelol ill see you all soon10:21
ghostpsalmroot@ubuntu:/# dmraid -ay -v10:21
ghostpsalm   RAID set "via_cfdehjfb" already active10:21
ghostpsalmINFO: Activating stripe RAID set "via_cfdehjfb   "10:21
ghostpsalmERROR: opening "/dev/mapper/via_cfdehjfb"10:21
ghostpsalmCan anyone help with this?10:21
Seveasno10:21
Seveasyou should NEVER paste in here10:22
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johnnybezak@Seveas: rm -rf thumbs/ doesn't work there still there, I want it to be able to go through all the directories from the top directory and recursively go through hunt out the thumbs directories and delete them do you get me?10:22
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ghostpsalmOh... sorry.10:22
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DaBassSeveas I am confused a little bit, debootstrap doest work for me and i dont know why10:22
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ghostpsalmhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4777   -   ?10:23
HappyFooljohnnybezak: this might work, but leave off the -exec bit to test it first:   find -type d -name 'thumbs' -exec rm -rf '{}' ';'10:23
johnnybezakHappyFool: i knew there was a bash guru hiding here somewhere10:24
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DaBassseveas as i was studying debootstrap howto for debian i found it needed that file at least as far as i undertod it10:24
SeveasDaBass, debootstrap get things of the internet10:24
Seveasoff*10:24
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Seveasbase.tar.gz is something pbuilder creates using bootstrap, maybe you got confused with that?10:25
DaBassseveas yes but it is not getting them for for me and there was a way to give it a file10:25
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SeveasdabaR, check your debootstrap config :)10:26
ajeetHello, anyone know why the libgl-mesa-dri files aren't where they are supposed to be? I'm doing a software update and 3 files won't do, because they can't be found?!10:26
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ghostpsalmdebbotstrap --arch ARCH breezy /installdir file:/media/cdrom10:26
johnnybezakHappyFool: perfect man that's exactly what I was looking for :)10:26
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HappyFooljohnnybezak: np. 'find' is pretty cool10:27
AlexGanacheWoo! It moved on!  Since "A watched pot never boils", I am going to bed before my pot freaks out.10:27
SeveasAlexGanache, yeah, pot that freaks out sucks ;)10:27
AlexGanachelol10:27
johnnybezakHappyFool: i agree :)10:27
anavimAlexGanache, please don't hold your breath!  ;)10:27
AlexGanacheooo 22%10:28
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DaBassdhodtpsalm that's nice but i don't have cdrom i am connected to internet and every time i try to do debootstrap it exits with usage: pkg mirror packagefile ...10:28
AlexGanacheAnyway I really am going now.  be back in a few hours.10:28
ghostpsalmIt may seema silly question; have you run apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade?10:29
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DaBassseveas where is that config10:30
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AlexGanacheUm I think it has died on "extracting python2-4minimal"10:30
AlexGanacheNvm10:30
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jrsimsI have a question about apt-get - does it leave behind artifacts when I uninstall software?10:32
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locomortojrsims: if you mean used packages, then yes10:33
locomortojrsims: if you want to get around that, use aptitude10:33
Colinmcdhey everyone10:33
locomortojrsims: same commands10:33
locomortojrsims: but will remove unused packages10:33
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jrsimslocomorto: so apt doesn't remove unused packages - just installs them?10:34
locomortoWell you can unistall packages, but lets say10:34
ColinmcdI have a friend that has removed the key bindings to the down key he can't use the down key at all. Any help he is using gnome10:34
locomortoI install lighttpd (a server like apache)10:34
locomortoIt depends on say liblighttpd10:35
locomortoif I do a sudo apt-get remove lighttpd10:35
locomortothen liblighttpd will stay10:35
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Seveasyup10:35
Seveasbut debfoster will clean that :)10:35
munzirhi gurus! I just upgraded my kernel in  my remote server but what's the best way to reboot that new kernel? remove the old and reboot?10:35
Seveasand in the future apt too10:35
Seveasmunzir, no, reboot and *then* remove the old10:35
jrsimscool10:35
locomortoI I did that with aptitude, then it would say, REMOVING UNUSED PACKAGES :liblighttpd10:35
ghostpsalmhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4777  -  Is anyone able to help?10:36
locomortoand prompt you10:36
munzirSeveas: but when I reboot would the new kernel be choosen by default?10:36
jrsimsaptitude is not debian native like apt, right?10:36
Seveasmunzir, yes10:36
Seveasjrsims, it is10:36
jrsimsSeveas: ok. so it's part of debian's install/uninstall suite10:36
jrsimsSeveas: er, programs10:36
munzirSeveas: ok thanks a lot10:36
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Colinmcdanyone know about key bindings and how to rebind the down arrow on the keyboard10:38
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SeveasColinmcd, what on earth do you want to rebind it to?!?10:39
anavimColinmcd, there are several ways to rebind key commands10:40
ColinmcdI want to bind it back to down arrow10:40
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SeveasColinmcd, hehe10:40
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Seveassystem -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts10:40
Colinmcdyea10:40
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Colinmcdand where to from there10:41
g00r0nmy friends who have macs have a desktop background that changes colors constantly, is there a program/etc. available for ubuntu which does the same?10:41
Seveasfind the keybinding with the downarrow (use only the mouse)10:41
Seveasand reset that one10:41
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atrolinuxanybody willing to help me get my wireless nic to work?10:42
anavim!anyone10:42
Colinmcdmy mate is wondering where it is? is it in the desktop section or another section?10:42
ubotuanyone is probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>10:42
Seveasg00r0n, yes10:42
g00r0nSeveas: which program?10:43
Seveas!no anyone is <reply> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>10:43
ubotuSeveas: okay10:43
Seveasg00r0n, can't remember the name, sorry...10:43
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Jinjonseveas iv already checked & its not there10:44
Jinjonthat is y im asking10:44
munzirSeveas: with dual-core xeon ( which I guess one chip) should I use kernel or kernel-smp?10:44
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ColinmcdJinjon is asking about the down arrow keybinding10:45
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Jinjoncan u help me10:45
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atrolinux*rewording without the use of anyone*  I have a laptop with a built in wireless card.  I can't get the card to work with ubuntu.  Is there an easy way to get it to work?  How about a hard way?10:45
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Alexatrolinux: Find out if it's supported by ndiswrapper, if it is, follow the ubar easy howto on the ndiswrapper wiki10:46
Colinmcdatrolinux> try http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29046.html10:46
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Colinmcdor this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-5529.html try a ifconfig and tell us what happens. (BTW I don't really know but looking through forums is a good way to find out10:47
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ekcehI've a resolution problem on macintosh powerbook. It seems like I don't use the right driver. I've checked xorg.0.log. It says: (II) RADEON(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range)10:50
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atrolinuxThanks for the links guys.  I've tried ndiswrapper to no avail (probably because I'm probably not finding the right windows driver anyway).  I've made a post on the forums but thought some live help might be better.  I'll read through those links and see if I find anything I haven't tried yet.10:50
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retrixatrolinux: if you can track down the right drivers, you might want to try ndisgtk (apt-get install ndisgtk) ... its a gui i wrote that may help you get set up10:52
anavimekceh, hsync isn't the resolution, it's the sync rate10:53
ullemy firefox takes long times to load pages but opera works fine when I'm using windows on the same computer any ideas how to fix it?10:53
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anavimekceh, you should try changing the sync rate10:53
ekcehok10:53
atrolinuxI've also been using ndisgtk.  It tells me the hardware isn't present for the drivers I've found that are supposed to work.10:53
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Yannick_Rhello, I compiled a 2.6.14 vanilla kernel, and when I use it the automount (usbkeys, cdrom) doesn't work, any of you could help me ?10:54
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ekcehcan't find sync rate in xorg.conf. Is this the right place to look?10:55
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ullemy firefox takes long times to load pages but opera works fine when I'm using windows on the same computer any ideas how to fix it?10:56
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anavimekceh, system-> preferences-> screen resolution -> refresh rate10:56
nonamehello peeps10:57
ekcehthe only option there is 60 Hz.10:57
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Madpilotulle: install Opera in Ubuntu?10:57
Madpilot!tell ulle about opera10:57
HappyFoolulle: in    about:config,  disable network.dns.disableIPv610:57
HappyFoolthere are some other performance hints, but i haven't set those10:58
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retrixatrolinux: dont take the hardware present info as gospel ... ndiswrapper may not find the hardware but it can still work in some instances10:58
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murrayhi ... does anyone know much about /etc/acpi/hibernate.pl ?10:59
murraywhen I run it, the computer shuts down (slowly)10:59
murrayand then fails to restart properly : it hangs while booting requiring a power cycle10:59
raphinkhibernation is quiet hard to get to work11:00
Steilheh does anyone know if theres a way to change around the xchat-gnome UI? (e.g. move the server and nick lists to the right of the screen)11:00
murrayswsusp: FATAL:11:00
murraycannot find swap device, try swapon -a!11:00
murraybut swap does exist11:00
Corrupterhow do i make a boot disk?11:00
murrayand I've got resume=/dev/hda2 (aka swap) in the grub menu.lst11:00
murrayCorrupter : do you need it to install, or to fix a system?11:01
murraycause if the latter, any old live-cd will do11:01
murrayyou can boot with that, mount your disks and tinker11:01
Corrupterinstall11:01
Corrupteri have an ISO, just no CD burner :-(11:01
murrayahhh...11:01
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Corrupteri is poor...11:02
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murraymy suggestion would be to get a cd in the post11:03
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murrayor ask your local lug if you have one near by11:04
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pppoe_dudehi. when using pop3 e-mail without SSL or secure authentication, is my password sent as clear text?11:04
Corrupterany idea if ubuntu works good with comcast cable?11:05
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applemanhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4777  -  Is anyone able to help?11:05
rob_ppppoe_dude:  Yes.11:05
Corrupter<--- had mucho problems with other versions and the same ISP11:05
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murrayCorrupter: http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/?p=7111:06
pppoe_duderob_p, and there's no way around it if the server doesnt support ssl/secure authentication?11:06
rob_ppppoe_dude:  Afraid not!11:06
pppoe_dudeok11:06
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smileyhi all11:07
murraypppoe_dude: regularly changing your password :)11:07
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smileyhow to use bittorrrent11:07
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murraysmiley: google it11:07
smileyand what location do i have to open at the beggining11:07
rob_ppppoe_dude:  If you own the server, you could setup a ssh tunnel to it.  I've done that to keep things secure for otherwise clear-text stuff.11:08
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Corrupteranyone know if Comcast cable works with ubuntu?11:09
atrolinuxI know mediacom cable does.  I can't imagine why comcast wouldn't11:09
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Corruptercomcast is kind of... retarded...11:10
nonamehello everyone11:10
anavimCorrupter, what, you mean the installer?11:10
nonamecan anyone help me how to install yahoo messenger in ubuntu?11:10
Corrupteri mean i don't have a CD burner and i need to install ubuntu11:10
anavimnoname, try gaim11:11
Corrupteri have the ISO11:11
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Corruptergaim... i love gaim, always use gaim! i use gaim on windows11:11
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nonamewhat gaim anavin?11:11
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anavimnoname, it's a free instant messenger client for ubuntu11:11
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Corrupterwithout the ads or spam or... any of that other annoying AIM stuff11:11
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anavimCorrupter, comcast is my dsp, it works fine11:12
nonameoki guys ill try to check that now11:12
Corruptersweet11:12
nonametnx fo helping11:12
Corrupteranyways, any idea for how to install ubuntu without a CD burner?11:12
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lillpelleCorrupter: you can order CD for free from the home page, get it by mail and install from CD (if you have CD)11:13
atrolinuxCorrupter, shipit will send you free cds.  Or you could have a friend burn it?  As far as installing it from the hard drive with an ISO, I don't know.11:13
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Corrupter<-- no patience11:13
anavimCorrupter, linux from scratch and then convert it to ubuntu... it'll take you a few weeks/months to read through the docs  :(11:13
Corrupteralright11:14
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Corrupterwell, geuss i'll do it the cheater way...11:14
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lillpelleis it not possible to install from floppy+net?11:14
Corruptergo buy a CD burner from wal-mart, burn it, then take it back and get a refund11:14
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atrolinuxyeah, I hate it when Walmart sells you cd burners that don't work...11:15
atrolinuxI had a router that had a similar problem recently ;)11:15
Corrupterlol, i plan on it working only once11:15
HappyFoolCorrupter: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation11:15
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Corruptersweet, thanks11:16
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Corrupter... "this page does not exist yet"11:16
HappyFoolhmm11:16
MadpilotCorrupter: that URL works here...11:16
applemanhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/477711:17
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atrolinuxokay, this is my forum post with more detail about my problem, for anybody who wants to help me further: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=50577211:17
Corrupterlike i said, i'll buy a CD burner and take it back11:17
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anavimoo, installation from usb drive looks cool  :)11:20
deFrysk!gpgerr11:20
ubotumethinks gpgerr is If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*11:20
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DrSpinwhat do I do if I killed apt11:21
DrSpinsudo: apt-get: command not found11:21
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raphink?11:21
DrSpinI was trying to downgrade to GCC 3.4 (oops) and it started uninstalling things -- I cancelled out of it and now apt is broken11:22
HappyFoolDrSpin: doh11:22
DrSpinindeed11:22
DrSpinLOL11:22
HappyFoolDrSpin: how about aptitude ?11:22
atrolinuxDrSpin, apt-get install apt-get11:22
raphinkhaha11:22
raphinkDrSpin: you can find the deb online and install it11:22
raphink;)11:22
DrSpinLOL --- tried that ;)11:22
atrolinuxhehe11:22
anavimCorrupter, oh, my mistake. you can install directly from windows:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromWindows11:22
RubinDrSpin: do you have dpkg?11:22
DrSpinyes thankfully :)11:22
HappyFooli have gcc-3.4 and normal 'gcc' (4.0) living together happily; the install was fairly simple11:23
Rubinyeah. wget the .deb and use dpkg -i to install it11:23
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DrSpinHappyFool: I'm just trying to get vmware to compile the kernel module and never set the CC variable so it wasn't working -- :S11:25
DrSpinjust wasn't paying attention11:25
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anavimRubin, yeah, but how about making a fat binary from gcc3 and gcc4?11:26
ColD_7how can i open an program cd in ubuntu?11:26
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klepasmoin moin11:27
ColD_7it can be opened in windows but not ubuntu11:27
klepasmy cds have arrived. wohoo.11:27
klepashttp://wombat.nuxified.com/files/pcdv0005.jpg11:27
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HappyFoolColD_7: what CD is it? and what do you want to happen?11:28
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ColD_7HappyFool, it is my education cd, and i want it to start11:29
ColD_7it is an autostart cd in windows11:29
sazwerxhow to start gdesklets automatically when my computer started and without the "manage desklets" window open?11:29
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HappyFoolColD_7: if it is written for windows, there's a strong possibility it won't work in linux11:29
ColD_7HappyFool, thanks11:30
klepasColD_7: the autostart is a windows application11:30
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HappyFoolColD_7: you should see a CD icon on your desktop -- you can double-click that to explore the contents of the CD11:30
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MadpilotColD_7: it should show up in the file manager, though11:30
klepasColD_7: most likely an exe file11:30
DrSpinwget http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.6.40.1ubuntu9_i386.deb11:30
HappyFoolColD_7: if it has images/HTML or whatever, you can at least see those11:30
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Liwynhi11:30
DrSpinthe two newer versions wouldn't work :S11:30
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DrSpindependency issues11:30
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DrSpinbut I got it working - thanks :)11:30
Liwyncan someone help me?11:30
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raphinkwhat's your pb Liwyn ?11:31
ColD_7thanks11:31
Liwynraphink: I'm trying to install the ipw2200 wireless network drivers11:31
crimsunLiwyn: they already exist11:32
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LiwynYes, but I was to upgrade them to 1.0.011:32
crimsunLiwyn: 1.0.6 is in Breezy11:32
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LiwynOkey11:33
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Liwynbut a question... umm...11:33
Liwynwhy can't I use the command make ?11:33
ghostpsalmDevice-Mapper utilities, package name in Ubuntu?11:33
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crimsun!info dmraid11:34
ubotudmraid: (tool to manage some hardware (S)ATA raid controllers), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.9.9+1.0.0.rc9-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 428 kB11:35
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Liwynguess I have to reinstall then :P11:35
HobbseeLiwyn: apt-get install build-essential11:35
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reterhello11:35
reteranyone here?11:35
crimsunLiwyn: why would you need to reinstall?11:35
Hobbseereter: plenty of people, around 587 currently :P11:35
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johnnybezaki'm here11:36
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johnnybezaklurking in the dark11:36
iggehello hello11:36
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reteri need some help setting up alsa in my thinkpad 390... here is the website http://www.linux-laptop.net/hosted/Thinkpad390.html11:37
Goshawkdo gpg uses rsa keys by default11:37
Goshawk?11:37
crimsunGoshawk: no, elgamal11:37
Goshawkops.. does gpg use rsa keys by default?11:37
reteraccording to the website i need OPL3SA2 in order for the sound to work on this laptop11:37
Goshawk"elgamal"?11:37
retercan anyone help me to set this up?11:37
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Liwyncrimsun: maybe not thanks to Hobbsee11:37
iggesomeone here who would be kind enough to help me troubleshoot a bit? my problem is the the sound doesn't work.. it's just dead silent...11:37
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HobbseeLiwyn: did it owrk?11:38
Hobbseeigge: what type of soundcard?11:38
LiwynHobbsee: It's not finished executing yet11:38
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crimsunreter: do you know your hardware information for that sound chipset?11:38
crimsunGoshawk: read the gnupg documentation at the very least11:39
iggeHobbsee: heh.. good question actually... dont't know.. how do I find out?11:39
retercrimsun, do you know what to do?11:39
Goshawkcrimsun, ok understood thanks11:39
Hobbseeum11:39
iggeHobbsee: it is an the motherboard11:39
retercrimsun, what info do i meed to know?11:39
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LiwynHobbsee: Well, I read some things on the ubuntu site and so after several d/cs I decided to try to update :)11:39
crimsunreter: you need to know the port, dma1, dma2, and irq info11:39
Liwynbut might have been another reason11:39
Hobbseeigge: check in alsamixer that everything's turned up, and then try muting headphone jack sense, and line jack sense11:39
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crimsunreter: install isapnptools from universe and give me the output from ''pnpdump'' via http://paste.ubuntulinux.l11:40
crimsunreter: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl rather11:40
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anttiHi, do enyone have ATI Radeon X300 SE and how can I make it work11:42
LiwynHobbsee: Do you know why I can't issue the make command? ;/11:42
anttimy ubuntu is 5.10 (breezy), 64-bit PC11:43
reterhow do i open isapnptools?11:43
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reteris it in the gnome panel?11:43
HobbseeLiwyn: have you tried it again, after installing build-essential?11:43
anavimLiwyn, is the make tool there?11:43
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retercrimsun, how do i open isapnptools?11:43
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retercrimsun, is it in the gnome panel?11:43
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Liwynahh ok thanks Hobbsee, it was for that, sorry I'm just a bit untechnical female (:11:44
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HobbseeLiwyn: no problem...and good to see another woman using linux :P11:44
Hobbseethe guys get that one wrong too :P11:44
iggeHobsee: everything looks turned up.. this is really strange... everything worked ok before when I ran debian11:44
LiwynHobbsee: But then I ran into an error :(11:45
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crimsunreter: use it from the command line11:45
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HobbseeLiwyn: paste the error to pastebin, but i'm not sure if i'll be able to solve it11:45
iggeHobbsee: what do you mean by "muting headphone jack sense, and line jack sense" ?11:45
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hawknigI live in the dormitory of my university and I applied for internet they've given me a static ip a network subnet mask, the addresses of dns-servers and wins server. I did the connection settings in windows and it worked but on ubuntu I did the same connection settings using network-admin but I can't connect to internet...what may be the problem?11:46
liableigge: in alsamixer11:46
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retercrimsun: how? do i enter isapnptools in the command line?11:46
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crimsunreter: Applications> Accessories> Terminal11:46
Lathiathawknig: did you disable and re-enable the interface afterwards?11:46
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anttiHellow! Is there a way to make  ATI Radeon X300 SE work in ubuntu  5.10 (breezy), 64-bit PC11:47
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iggeliable: the command line program "alsamixer"? (haven't used it before.. )11:47
retercrimsum, i am there. what do i enter at the command line11:47
hawknigLathiat: yeah many times... may there be smth that is blocking the network maybe? cause I experienced a likely prob in xp with norton and zonealarm turned off I couldn't connect to internet11:47
liablejygge: wtf are you asking about lilo if you use it and are comfortable with it?11:47
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Lathiathawknig: nope shouldn tbe11:47
Lathiathawknig: if you run ifconfig, does it show your interface?11:48
Lathiathawknig: did you get some details wrong?11:48
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liableigge: just type ' sudo alsamixer' :)11:48
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hawknigLathiat: yeah it even says eth0 is connected11:49
crimsunreter: pnpdump11:49
LiwynHobbsee: I think it has to do with kernel headers..11:49
Lathiathawknig: weird11:49
Lathiathawknig: so what 'doesnt work'11:49
Lathiathawknig: have you tried pinging the default gateway?11:49
crimsunreter: please don't message me in private.11:49
hawkniglathiat: well I can't connect to any site11:49
Lathiathawknig: also make sure your configuring the right device i guess11:49
retercrimsum, no boards found it saids11:49
Lathiathawknig: ok, well try a ping11:49
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Lathiathawknig: e.g. 'ping 202.92.213.22811:50
Lathiathawknig: or, even better, ping the default gateway settings ip11:50
thoreauputichi apokryphos :)11:50
hawkniglathiat: okie I'll try that11:50
andi5hawknig: you might try to "cat /etc/resolv.conf", maybe it does not print your dns servers correctly - try to "ping www.google.com" too :)11:50
Lathiathawknig: if both of those work, it might be a dns issue11:50
crimsunreter: reboot, go into bios, and turn on "easyboot"/"quickboot", then try ''pnpdump'' again11:50
apokryphoshiya thoreauputic; how've ya been?11:50
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iggeliable: yep ok... so in here... Master is turned up, and PCM is turned up.. but i don't see where to do "muting headphone jack sense, and line jack sense"11:50
thoreauputicapokryphos: variable ;) How about you? iwas worried the thought police had got to you ;-)11:51
reterok11:51
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ulaashi all! iwant to update my i386 breezy installation to amd64 in a way like dist-upgrade11:51
Lathiatigge: move over the headphone and line jack bits and hit 'm'11:51
Lathiatulaas: You can't do that11:51
ulaasis this possible?11:51
Lathiatulaas: You must do a new install11:51
liableigge: the second headphone and the second line ones.11:51
ulaasLathiat, gurp11:51
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ulaasLathiat, then i am gonna live with k7 kernel11:52
liableigge: mute them by pressing <>11:52
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iggehm still don't get which one.. sorry.. these are the ones that I have:  < Master >Master M  Master S   PCM    Surround  Surround  Center     LFE      Line      CD       Mic    Mic Boos  Mic Sele  Phone   PC Speak    Aux    Mono Out  Channel  Downmix   Exchange Exchange External  Spread F<Stereo M>11:53
liableigge: hmm, what is that card? a sb or something?11:54
iggeliable: from alsamixer...11:55
iggeCard: Intel ICH611:55
iggeChip: Analog Devices AD198611:55
atrolinuxError for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :  SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not permitted. <--- what might cause this?11:55
liableigge: i jumped in late on the convo. (and prolly should have kept my mouth shut) just heard someone mention jack sense which was a sound problem i had on an older kernel once..11:55
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crimsunigge: paste the output from ''amixer'' onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:56
iggeliable: i see... well.. any help is much appreciated, the problem is that everything *sems* to work fine with the audio but it's just silent... like if the speakers where turned off (but they are not, i've checked 1000 times)11:57
iggecrimsun: ok hang on11:57
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iggecrimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/478111:58
liableigge: sudo cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp11:58
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iggeliable: bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy11:59
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igge(i'm running xmms that looks like it is playing things)12:00
liableigge: sudo lsof /dev/dsp12:00
orzinwhy cant I edit the mp3 tags in rythmbox12:00
spudsemy ubuntu needs to be restarted every day... feels like I just installed win9512:00
liablehah12:00
thoreauputicigge: kill xmms and reset it to use the esd output plugin12:00
iggeliable: xmms    9409 igge    9w   CHR   14,3      7739 /dev/dsp12:00
iggethoreauputic: hm ok... how do I do that?12:01
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apokryphosorzin: your user doesn't have permission to edit the given files?12:01
liableigge: kill xmms12:01
crimsunigge: have you tried muting 'External Amplifier'?12:01
retercrimsun, i couldnt find easyboot or quickboot in the bios12:01
orzinapokryphos, yeah, i created them12:02
thoreauputicigge: killall xmms ;  then look in options- preferences in xmms and reset the output plugin12:02
retercrimsum, is there another way to look up the info12:02
orzinapokryphos, but i should really check this before i shout around....real sorry12:02
crimsunreter: perhaps the info you need is in the bios.12:02
thoreauputicigge: common issue - try other outputs if that doesn't work12:02
crimsunreter: otherwise you'll have to guess12:02
apokryphosorzin: if you right-click on the files, and then try editing the meta-data from there, is it possible?12:02
orzinapokryphos, but it was a problem for someone else as well...i really like rythmbox12:02
orzinapokryphos, thats my problem...12:03
retercrimsun, tell me or less where do i find port, dmal, dma2, and irq12:03
orzinapokryphos, it won tlet me change the text...i can select it12:03
retercrimsun, there are many kinds of ira irq12:03
orzinapokryphos, but i will get back to you in five...i must check the octals12:03
apokryphosorzin: if you right-click in Nautilus or whatever, I mean.12:03
thoreauputicorzin: install tagtool - it is nice for editing tags12:03
orzinapokryphos, ohhhh...that iwll check too...cheers back in five12:04
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iggethoreauputic: you mean the plugin that says eSound Output Plugin... (libesdout.so) ?12:05
thoreauputicigge: yes12:05
crimsunreter: in the bios or where else?12:05
applemanCan anyone suggest why GRUB cannot find /boot/grub/stage1; though it does exist?12:06
reterwhich irq do i look for12:06
thoreauputicigge: from memory it's at the bottom12:06
iggethoreauputic: ok.. made on difference...12:06
retercrimsun, which port are you looking for12:06
igge:(12:06
crimsunreter: ...the one associated with your sound chipset12:06
iggeand also... the sound doesn't work anywhere, not just in xmms12:06
reterok12:07
crimsunigge: did you toggle the mixer element as I suggested?12:07
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iggecrimsun: yep tried that just now.. no luck... :(12:08
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crimsunigge: is this a fresh Breezy install or a dist-upgrade from Hoary?12:08
orzinapokryphos, ok...ichaged the permission octals of whole lot. and the propeties dialog box has no edit fields12:09
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orzinapokryphos, and when i mouse ove the mp3s i no longer get a preview12:09
iggecrimsun: it is a fresh Breezy install.. however, my /home directory was on another partition and i kept it when installing (so maybe some config files was still there, i don't know)12:10
crimsunigge: cat /proc/asound/cards12:10
applemanCan anyone suggest why GRUB cannot find /boot/grub/stage1; though it does exist?12:10
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iggebtw, when I start xmms it says "Message: device: default" .. haven't seen it do that before...12:10
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igge0 [ICH6           ] : ICH4 - Intel ICH612:10
igge                     Intel ICH6 with AD1986 at 0xdffffe00, irq 2312:10
apokryphosorzin: can you do an ls -lh in that directory, and show me one of the lines12:11
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crimsunigge: "default..." what?12:11
iggeheh.. just that... on a single line: Message: device: default12:11
crimsunah, ok, that's normal.12:12
iggeok12:12
crimsunigge: aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav12:12
gfishwhats the best program to put music on an ipod12:12
apokryphosgfish: amaroK :D12:12
gfishwill i need to format my ipod before12:13
iggeit says "Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/startup.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo" but doesn't play anything12:13
gfishbecause it was formatted within windows12:13
crimsunigge: does it hang, or does it return you to a prompt12:13
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apokryphosgfish: no, I presume it's vfat12:13
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iggecrimsun i returns to the prompt (after about 10 sec)12:14
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crimsunigge: ok, then something's muted that shouldn't be.12:14
gfishits what it was formatted in windows12:14
gfishbut i dont know the system12:14
orzinapokryphos, i'll pastebin it for you12:14
crimsunigge: unmute the 'Exchange Front/Surround' element, then unmute the 'Surround' ones12:14
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iggecrimsun: ok... hang on...12:15
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retercrimsun, i found dma1, dma2, and irq but not port12:15
crimsunreter: ok, and what are they?12:16
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iggecrimsun: ALRITE!!!! wohoo...12:16
retercrimsun, dma a: dma0 , dma b: dma1 , irq: irq512:16
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iggeit worked..12:16
crimsunigge: excellent.12:16
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iggecrimsun: thanks alot12:17
crimsunnp.12:17
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retercrimsun, what do i do now?12:18
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gfishhow can i set up my gmail account12:21
gfishis there a notifier of some kind12:21
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iggecrimsun: hm this is wierd though... it doesn't react at all to "Master", instead it is "Master Surround".. do you know why that is?12:21
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retercrimsun, did you get what i gave you?12:22
crimsunigge: of course. You switched Front and surround, remember?12:22
crimsunreter: yes, be patient.12:22
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Seveas!themes12:22
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sazwerx!help12:23
iggecrimsun: hm ok... the "Exchange Front/Surround" thing?12:23
crimsunreter: in a Terminal, sudo modprobe snd-opl3sa2 irq=5 dma1=0 dma2=1 port=0x120 wss_port=0x530 fm_port=-1 midi_port=-1 isapnp=012:23
crimsunigge: yes.12:23
iggecrimsun: actually, even if i mute that thing it is Master Surround it reacts to12:23
crimsunigge: come again?12:24
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reteruh oh problem crimsun12:24
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brownie17i am having a few issues with the Gstreamer-Rhythmbox id3 tag editing feature. i understand it is use at your own risk, and experimental. when i run rhythmbox with the "--enable-tag-writing" flag, as dictated on "http://www.gnome.org/projects/rhythmbox/faq.html", it still just does not even try to allow me to edit tags. in the text box containing the tag if i press backspace, or another key, it just does nothing. anyone tried usi12:25
brownie17ng the tag editing feature?12:25
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reterFATAL: Error inserting snd_opl3sa2 (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/isa/snd-opl3sa2.ko): No such device12:25
reterFATAL: Error running install command for snd_opl3sa212:25
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retercrimsun, FATAL: Error inserting snd_opl3sa2 (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/isa/snd-opl3sa2.ko): No such device12:25
reterFATAL: Error running install command for snd_opl3sa212:25
iggeif i in alsamixer turn off the "Exchange Front/Surround", it is still the "Master Surround" control that controls the volume...12:25
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iggethe "Master" doesn't affect it at all... and the control on the desktop does nothing either12:26
crimsunreter: you have to use the correct port parameter12:26
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crimsunigge: set the Volume Control to use Master Surround, then12:26
retercrimsun, how do i find that out?12:27
iggecrimsun: ah ok that worked12:27
applemanWhere do i find grub.conf?12:27
gfishwhy do my mp3s only play in totem player12:27
martinjh99appleman /boot/menu12:28
crimsunreter: look in your bios12:28
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iggecrimsun: so thanks alot and so, everything works fine... but... still i'm a bit curious why it switched to start using surround all of a sudden12:28
HappyFoolappleman: maybe /boot/grub/menu.lst is what you want12:28
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crimsunigge: it's a chipset quirk12:28
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gfishwhy cant i see anyone in my network12:28
iggecrimsun: ok12:29
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brosiozanyone known if exist anything to similar of dashboard of mac for kde on linux ?12:29
lingoistgood morning! hm, I am wondering if I need/can use Nvidia drivers in order to set up dualmonitoring...my graphics adaper #1 is ATI Radeon 9800, #2 is Elsa Victory Erazor (quite old)12:29
Astxistbrosioz, there is one floating around, but I'd be damned if I can remember it's name12:30
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brosiozAstxist, :12:30
applemanmartinjh99: /boot/grub/menu does not exist?  I am trying to 'make sure that the kernel line in your grub.conf file is referring to that partition'.12:30
lingoistI got already both screens working but they show the same12:30
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HappyFoollingoist: at a guess you'll need ati drivers for the ati ;). not sure about the other card12:30
HappyFoolappleman: it's /boot/grub/menu.lst12:30
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HappyFool!tell lingoist about ati12:30
Astxistati is evil12:31
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Astxister I mean, nothing :)12:31
lingoistthanks HappyFool ... but do I really install these drivers...as I said: both screens are working but they just show the same12:31
HappyFoollingoist: i'm not sure about dual-screen12:32
brownie17Astxist, you are evil, boy! ATI is the only chink in Nvidia's dominating armour, the monopoly that it has over the grpahics card industry!12:32
lingoisthm, anyone else an idea what I have to do?12:32
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Astxistbrownie17, heh I was joking got an ati card myself ;p12:32
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gfishhow do u set up a shared printer12:33
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elwoodit's safe tu upgrade to breezy?12:33
aeon17xelwood: yeah... what are you worrying about?12:33
lingoisthm, xinerama is "on" but nothings happening...would really appreciate any hints to get this running12:34
elwoodmy uml will stop works? i will have problem with a lot  of crashing?12:34
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lingoistjust my desktop is mirrored to both screens12:34
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applemanHappyFool:  I am still getting this error, 'Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no' - I read somewhere it is a kernel image problem...?12:35
brownie17Astxist, same12:35
HappyFoolappleman: when do you see that error?12:35
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HappyFoollingoist: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xineram&titlesearch=Titles12:35
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lingoistHappyFool: thx, been there already :(12:36
HappyFoollingoist: ah, then i really am out of ideas, sorry.12:36
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applemanHappyFool: In GRUB prompt, everything else (device, geometry, root) works fine, then when I try 'setup (hd0)' I get the error.12:36
HappyFoolhmm12:36
lingoistHappyFool: I am too :( thx anyways12:36
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HappyFoolappleman: what 'root' command have you issued? and is there a /boot/grub/stage1 file ?12:37
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applemanHappyFool: Yes, stage1 file exists.  Just 'root (hd0,1)'12:38
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brownie17what is the command to untar a file?12:38
brownie17sorry, i mean to un GZ it12:38
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HappyFoolappleman: and where is / mounted?12:38
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zerokarmaleftbrownie17: tar zxvf foo.tar.gz12:39
brownie17someone HAS to know the command to unzip a file from terminal12:39
brownie17thankyou12:39
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zerokarmaleftbrownie17: or gunzip foo.gz if it's just a gzipped file12:39
anavimappleman, you are probably giving the wrong number for the partition when you are entering the root (0,0) command12:39
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applemanHappyFool:  I have 'chroot /ubuntu' - where I am now.12:39
anavimroot(0,x)...12:39
HappyFoolappleman: um12:40
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HappyFoolappleman: this is a grub-recovery procedure?12:40
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HappyFoolappleman: from a live-cd?12:40
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applemanHappyFool:  This is a, 'try to get fakeraid to work' procedure - to boot from it.12:40
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HappyFoolappleman: ok12:41
ulleI'm trying to set up java and it says I need superuser privilege but Im using the only user I have on this computer so what to do12:41
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HappyFoolappleman: you are irc'ing from the same machine?12:41
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anavim!tell ulle about rootsudo12:41
HappyFoolappleman: assuming so, can you paste the output of 'mount' and 'sudo fdisk -l' to paste.ubuntulinux.nl (don't paste here in #ubuntu, please)12:42
applemanHappyFool:  In the FakeRaidHowTo I was told to do a 'geometry' thing for my HDD, did that - root partition is on 'Partition num 1:'12:42
hawknigwhat will the name of ubuntu's next version be?12:42
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thoreauputicDapper Drake :)12:42
brownie17who feels like quickly running me through compiling a program?12:43
HappyFoolappleman: hmm12:43
HappyFoolappleman: i haven't worked with fakeraid before12:43
deFryskbrownie17, someone on #gentoo perhaps12:43
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thoreauputicbrownie17:  ./configure && make && make install12:43
anavimhawknig, 6.0412:43
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HappyFool!tell brownie17 about compile12:43
thoreauputicbrownie17: well, that was quick :P12:43
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brownie17thoreauputic, sure was!12:44
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HappyFoolwhere in the world is .ma ?12:44
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deFryskmaladives ?12:45
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brownie17 thoreauputic i didn't even open the folder, i just guessed it needed compiling, but it doesn't. anyone know how to install "desklets" for rhythmbox12:45
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applemanHappyFool:  I think the fake raid stuff is now kind of sorted; according to a gentoo howto - I need to rebuild/do something to the kernel image.12:46
applemanHappyFool: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/478312:46
brownie17HappyFool, there has a got to be a webstie that can tell you all those. check12:46
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HappyFoolbrownie17: yeah, wikipedia12:46
HappyFoolappleman: am looking now12:46
brownie17anyone ever  used "desktlets" for rhythmbox?12:47
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marcinis dapper repository available somewhere?12:47
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peter__hi12:48
deFryskmarcin, replace breezy with dapper and /topic12:48
peter__i have a problem with doom3, can anyone help me?12:48
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marcindeFrysk: thanks12:48
peter__the problem is, doom 3 is starting, but i don't see the starting movie, and the menu don't appear12:48
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keTry a new gfx driver12:49
peter__just the "mars planet" is visible12:49
peter__Ati cart12:49
lsuactiafnerwhat linux p2p app currently works through NAT and has the most content?12:49
applemanHappyFool: "This error is returned if the specified file name cannot be found, but everything else (like the disk/partition info) is OK.12:49
applemanFrequently, the error notes a missing kernel image file. Make sure that the file it is referring to exists on your boot partition."12:49
keTry a new driver... Perhaps try the omega one12:49
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peter__i'm running linux?12:49
peter__Ubuntu12:49
HappyFoolappleman: is there a kernel image in /boot ?12:49
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peter__can anyone help me out, i realy would like to play doom12:50
HappyFoolappleman: i'm feeling distinctly out of my depth ;). I've setup software raid, but your setup is confusing to me. I see / is mounted on /dev/hda1, but you raid is on /dev/sda and /dev/sdb12:51
peter__and i don't wone run windows12:51
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applemanHappyFool:  I recently copied bzImage from the /usr/src/linux/arch/x86_64/boot/ folder to try to fix this.12:51
HappyFoolappleman: my kernel image is called /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-k712:51
HappyFoolappleman: hmm12:52
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HappyFoolappleman: doesn't the debootstrap install a kernel image?12:52
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HappyFoolappleman: ah, didn't you do and 'apt-get install linx-amd64' ?12:52
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applemanHappyFool:  I guess the /dev/hda1 is the CHROOT version of /dev/mapper/via_cfdehjfb112:52
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HappyFool(that package name is a guess)12:52
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applemanHappyFool: Debootstrap was not working, so I install a server version of ubuntu to a separate hdd and copied it all across.  But then I re-built a 'new' kernel to add-in all the software raid drivers as static... I may have forgot to copy the Image acrosss...12:54
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HappyFoolhmm12:55
MrFreeBirdhi guys12:55
mahanguwhat stuff can I safely strip from my init.d to speed up by boot process?12:55
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applemanHappyFool: Updated, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4785, with 'ls -la /boot'12:56
MrFreeBirdHow can I see AVI and MPEG files on ubuntu? Totem does not allow it12:56
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MrFreeBirdI use ubuntu 5.1012:56
MrFreeBirdalgum brasileiro?12:56
thoreauputic!tell MrFreeBird about restricted12:56
mahanguMrFreeBird, mplayer12:56
mahanguah sorry12:56
mahangusee thoreauputic12:57
HappyFoolappleman: i think root (hd0,0) is probably not right12:57
da_shrewdhello12:57
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da_shrewdanyone can help me?12:57
da_shrewdi have problem with my mouse12:57
HappyFoolappleman: can you put the output of    fdisk -l /dev/mapper/via_cfdehjfb12:57
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HappyFoolon the pastebin12:57
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da_shrewdubuntu doesn't detect my serial mouse12:57
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fechi, im using 5.04, how to update to 5.10 ?12:58
deFrysk!upgrade12:58
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade12:58
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mahangudeFrysk, beat me to it ;-)12:58
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mahangui love doing that :p12:58
deFrysk;p12:58
fecthx12:58
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HappyFoolappleman: i would guess that vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic or vmlinuz-2.6.12 will at least get you started12:59
applemanHappyFool:  Oke, vmlinuz-2.6.12 is the one I want - it's the one I compiled, it *ought* to be working now.01:00
da_shrewdanybody can help me?01:00
applemanHappyFool: updated, I am running 'root (hd0,1)' in Grub.01:01
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HappyFoolappleman: from http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4783 it looks like you have 4 partitions on your raid device01:02
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applemanHappyFool:  Indeed, 1=/boot, 2=/, 3=/home, 4=swap01:02
senectusmmmm pocky :-)01:02
HappyFoolappleman: hmm. then (hd0,0) *should* be right01:03
juliohola alguien me podria ayudar con programar en ubuntu en c++01:03
applemanHappyFool:  Oh, shoot - I thought root was for the '/' partition... it worked!01:03
applemanHappyFool: Cheers.01:04
HappyFoolappleman: ok01:04
HappyFoolappleman: good luck ;)01:04
HappyFoolappleman: software raid was much easier to install ;)01:04
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liveCmo est todo el mundo?01:07
Seveas!es01:07
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:07
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mahanguSeveas, ping01:09
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Seveasmahangu, ICMP ECHO RESPONSE01:09
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mahanguSeveas, may I speak to you in offtopic for a sec?01:09
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BigKahunaCan someone tell me how to reverse encode an avi file back to DVD (VOB) format using Breezy?01:13
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cloudrVDR, can somebody help me getting a nexus-s card rev2.2 to work with VDR?01:14
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HappyFoolBigKahuna: at a guess use transcode, or mencoder (i haven't played with video stuff much myself)01:15
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HappyFoolrevenge of the spambots01:17
BigKahunaHappyFool, Thanks I'll google transcode.01:17
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patrick_whats this?01:17
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cubehello...i've a question...can I use Wine for using Corewin?01:17
Seveasgrmbl01:18
hawknigbreyk01:18
Seveassomeone should kill either the spambot losers or the leaky-windows-running idiots01:18
Juhazor preferably both01:19
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peter__plz can anyone help me with doom3??01:19
ompaulSeveas, bot issues?01:20
Seveasompaul, yeah01:20
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johndarkhorseompaul: spambots sUx0r01:20
UdontKnowheh01:20
UdontKnowklining01:20
Seveasompaul, cat /dev/atomicbomb /mnt/redmond01:21
johndarkhorseUdontKnow: they're all in -unregged waitin on ya, heh heh01:21
UdontKnowjohndarkhorse: did it already01:21
Seveasgoo'boy ;)01:21
Seveas(read that as: thanks!)01:21
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ompaulSeveas, na that would waste too much energy, cat /dev/null >  /mnt/redmond it will just a a shell of its former self01:22
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cubebastards...01:23
UdontKnowompaul: let me remind you that /dev/null never outputs anything01:24
UdontKnowompaul: you might want /dev/zero ?01:24
Seveas/dev/urandom01:24
ompaulUdontKnow, note the single redirect01:24
Seveaspeople won't see the difference01:24
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ompauladd it on the back and the the event horizon removes the content01:24
GNAMubuntu 6.04 flight 1 is ready for production?01:25
GNAM.01:25
SeveasGNAM, not at all01:25
Seveasit is pre-alpha01:25
GNAMwow01:25
GNAMRECORD01:25
ompaulGNAM, read the topic - if you have to ask don't :-) I know I won't01:25
Seveasto quote kamion "It barely installs and does not do much more"01:25
Seveasbut you can use apt to get up to speed01:25
gnomefreakdidnt they just start development (active) like 2-3 weeks ago?01:26
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Seveasyes01:26
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Seveasby performing a massive merge with debian01:26
gnomefreakoh god no dont stray from ubuntu toward debian :(01:27
johndarkhorseSeveas: i ended up doing my own irssi scripts since nobody here or on #irssi has a clue why mine would stop working when i upgraded01:27
ompaulgnomefreak, if is how the other improvements were made, you have to start somewhere01:27
ompaulgnomefreak, s/if/it01:28
johndarkhorseSeveas: would moving from powerpc to ppc64 have anything to do with it?01:28
gnomefreaki have a badly broken etch on here they tell me after i spent 8hours upgradeing to etch that oh that doesnt work well :(01:28
gnomefreakdebian is not on my good side this morning01:29
johndarkhorsegnomefreak: debian has NEVER been the user friendliest distro01:29
gnomefreaki didnt have too mant problems with sarge but just wanted (new cutting edge) distro so i figured hey etch is new :(01:30
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ompaulgnomefreak, would you ever try to upgrade from SuSE to or from Rehat/Fedora or to or from Mandriva? ;-)01:30
johndarkhorsegnomefreak: dapper01:31
gnomefreakmandrake re writes the grub menu and takes ubuntu out of it :(01:31
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gnomefreaksuse is a pita01:31
gnomefreakno redhat distros see ubuntu and put it in grub01:31
gnomefreakdapper is too new01:31
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gnomefreak<<not that crazy01:31
ompaulgnomefreak, LFS ?01:31
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gnomefreakLFS?01:32
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johndarkhorsewww.linuxfromscratch.org01:35
=== dabaR is not gonna use it, cause it emphasizes linux only.
dabaRwell...if I had to, but this way...01:36
gnomefreakompaul, i dont see me using that do to that fact that that is harder than well debian im sure01:36
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mintywalkerhi .. I need to recompile my kernel01:37
mintywalkerbut i want to ensure i get the same settings as the stock one supplied with ubuntu01:38
mintywalkerany ideas how i ensure that?01:38
eth42mintywalker, I think it is: make oldconfig01:38
eth42not sure, though01:38
mintywalkerk thanks01:38
eth42how do I find out which package contains X11/Xmu/WinUtil.h?01:38
HappyFooleth42: packages.ubuntu.com01:39
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eth42HappyFool: ok, thank you! so there is no way to ask apt-get directly?01:40
HappyFooleth42: there is... um. apt-files, but you need to install it and it's big01:41
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HappyFooleth42: 'apt-cache search' provides a limited search ability01:41
eth42HappyFool, thank you very much!01:41
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Toma-hey.. ive got a problem with my network :( ive got a wireless router (Dlink g700ap) and a working wlan0 connection, but i cant ping outside of the local network, aka 192.168.0.X01:43
Toma-any tips?01:43
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eth42Toma-: you don't have a firewall installed, do you?01:43
johndarkhorseeth42: if you install "apt-file" you can search in your console for files inside packages01:43
Toma-ill go see.01:44
eth42johndarkhorse: just did that :-) thanks!01:44
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Toma-no firewall01:45
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eth42Toma-: are the pings just ignored?01:46
eth42or is there an error message?01:46
Toma-ive tested the connection with the net from my router to the wireless point too01:46
Toma-error message...01:46
Toma-hang on01:46
Toma-network is unreachable01:47
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eth42hmm, doesn't that mean that your network device is not configured?01:47
Toma-id say so.01:47
Toma-the card is working, just not configured right.01:47
eth42Toma-: does ifconfig list an ip address for the network device?01:47
Taliesin-laptopHey guys, just reinstalling breezy on my main PC, gotten thru the first setup phase, im into the second setup phase where it boots into base-config01:47
Toma-its a static IP i have to assign it.01:48
Taliesin-laptophowever it's not doing anything, i's been sitting at "preparing for installation" for 20mins01:48
Taliesin-laptopalthough top shows aptitude churning away, aswell as tail cranking at 60% cpu :/01:48
Toma-ill check01:48
eth42Toma-: I'm not really an expert on these issues but I would guess that the network mask and broadcast addresses are not set correctly; can't you just use DHCP?01:49
Toma-hmmm id say so.01:49
Toma-ill give it another crack with dhcp01:50
Toma-this static ip business is too much :)01:50
Toma-my DS can connect to my access point but not my linux box :(01:50
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eth42DS = dose?01:51
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eth42dose=windows01:51
eth42?01:51
ctdDS would usually refer to nintendo DS (dual-screen)01:52
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rohanhi all, anyone here used automatix01:53
Toma-yeh nintendo DS :D01:54
rohan?01:54
Taliesin-laptopim taking a guess that every who could help me is sleeping :P01:54
rohani wanna know if automatix is "unattened" ?01:54
rohancan i leave it to run and sleep ?01:54
johndarkhorserohan: i advise agains automatix or easyubuntu or any other 'easy' script01:54
rohanor will it prompt ?01:54
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rohanjohndarkhorse: why ? b0rken boxen ?01:54
Toma-rohan, its automated01:54
johndarkhorserohan: it will "auto-destruct" your box possibly01:54
Toma-and yeh, its not a good idea01:54
rohanToma-: no prompts at all ?01:55
Toma-eth42, its all dhcp now and still no love. network still unreachable01:55
Toma-rohan not that i know of. iirc.01:55
johndarkhorserohan: the wiki has plenty of articles on whatever you want to install01:55
Toma-perhaps for macromedia and java install01:55
rohanToma-: reading the script off hand shows that there is one in openoffice201:55
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rohanjohndarkhorse: ok, i will use apt-get :D01:56
Toma-rohan, well, i guess its not totally automated.01:56
johndarkhorserohan: what pkgs were you looking for?01:56
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rohanjohndarkhorse: the mix that automatix provides is nice :)01:56
Taliesin-laptoprohan: from ubuntu forums - Please note: Options 29 to 34 require manual intervention and clicking and hence have been taken to the end. The first 28 options install without any user input.01:56
Taliesin-laptophope that helps your question. :)01:56
rohani want to install the full set, johndarkhorse01:56
rohanTaliesin-laptop: thanks, sorry for not reading XD01:56
Taliesin-laptopthats for automatix01:56
Taliesin-laptopno worries01:56
johndarkhorserohan: i've not paid that much attention to those scripts except for when folks come in here with their boxen hosed01:56
Taliesin-laptopi only just googles it myself, been curious and all ;)01:57
rohanjohndarkhorse: lol, how can it possibly hose a box ? its just apt-get01:57
Taliesin-laptopnow if only my pc would finish install01:57
Taliesin-laptopit's been install for 50mins01:57
Taliesin-laptopand no sign of change except space and hard drive activity01:57
Stormx2!ie01:57
ubotuie is probably Aye boyo! Head on over t' the #ubuntu-ie channel01:57
johndarkhorserohan: the easy scripts have hosed several boxen, something to do with the --force-all options01:58
Taliesin-laptopand the fact aptitude is still cranking :/01:58
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Taliesin-laptopoh god01:59
headdownhm, how can i find out what there is the best driver for my Elsa Victory Erazor PCI Graphicadapter?01:59
Taliesin-laptopthe instllation has used 18gig of hard drive space so far... like.. WTF01:59
headdownbtw: I finally managed to get dualscreen working, thx for your help01:59
rohanjohndarkhorse: oh, ok.01:59
rohanTaliesin-laptop: install of ubuntu ?!01:59
Taliesin-laptopyeah01:59
Taliesin-laptopon my pc, it's installing onto a new drive, first phase went thru without an issue, this second bit has just been sitting there for 50mins02:00
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Taliesin-laptopthe two main processes that have been running are tail (im assuming it's tailing and making a huge log file)02:00
Toma-headdown, you'll want the nvidia drivers02:00
Taliesin-laptopand aptitude02:00
rohanTaliesin-laptop: lol, 18G ..02:00
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headdownToma-: ok, thx!02:00
Taliesin-laptopmake that 19gig now02:01
Taliesin-laptopjeeesus02:01
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johndarkhorseTaliesin-laptop: you got some newfangled 8core Pentium4 or something?02:01
HappyFoolan 18GB log-file is unlikely02:01
rohanTaliesin-laptop: just cancel it. its insane.02:01
Taliesin-laptophaha02:02
Taliesin-laptopnah, looking at it now02:02
rohanthe install is about 5G02:02
Taliesin-laptopbase-config-pkgsel.log02:02
Taliesin-laptop19.5gig02:02
Taliesin-laptop;)02:02
Taliesin-laptopin /var/log02:02
Taliesin-laptoplol02:02
Taliesin-laptoplog file is filled it02:02
headdownubotu tell headdown about nvidia02:02
da_shrewdhello02:02
da_shrewdanyone can help me?02:02
da_shrewdplsss02:02
johndarkhorseTaliesin-laptop: i'd just kill it, before the log file eats your neighborhood02:03
da_shrewdi have problem with my mouse02:03
headdownhm, doesnt work...can anyone tell me about ncvidia02:03
headdownnvidia02:03
Taliesin-laptopTo continue, enter "Yes"; to abort, enter "No": Unrecognized input. Enter either "Yes" or "No"02:03
Taliesin-laptoplmao02:03
rohanTaliesin-laptop: lol, rm the file02:03
HappyFoolat 80 chars per line, that is 231 million lines02:03
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rohanHappyFool: wow, fast calculation02:03
Taliesin-laptophehe02:03
Taliesin-laptopwont help02:03
Terminusubotu, tell headdown -about nvidia02:03
da_shrewdi have the website url,how to configure it02:03
Taliesin-laptopit's looking like it's stuffed the install02:03
Taliesin-laptopgah02:03
HappyFoolrohan: yeah, computers are great ;)02:03
Taliesin-laptopWHY... WHY ME!!!02:03
rohanHappyFool: lol02:04
headdownTerminus: thx...how can I do that myself?02:04
rohanTaliesin-laptop: lol, use another distro :D ;)02:04
Terminusheaddown, do what?02:04
headdowntell myself about nvidia...invoke ubotu02:04
da_shrewdbut i think, i'm not expert with terminal.02:04
devintif i was Mark Shuttleworth I'd see more collaboration between GNOME + KDE, and even go so far as to see more collaboration between Linux and all the BSD's02:04
da_shrewdthe url is http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/3-Button-Mouse.html02:04
headdownTerminus: tell myself about nvidia...invoke ubotu02:04
da_shrewdanybody can show me step by step02:04
rohandevint: whats the use /02:05
Terminusheaddown, use the same syntax i did. instructions on how to use the bot is on the wiki.02:05
Taliesin-laptoprohan, but i like ubuntu :(02:05
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rohanTaliesin-laptop: heh, ok.02:05
headdownTerminus: thank you02:05
Terminusheaddown, np. :)02:05
apokryphosdevint: that's a *very* key point he's stressing -- he did a whole talk on it not too long ago. Collaboration is going to be better, and there's gonna be a lot more love for kubuntu on dapper release02:05
headdownubotu, tell headdown about nvidia02:05
da_shrewdhello,anybody can show me? :(02:05
rohandevint: and, define "c02:05
rohandevint: and, define "collabaration between linux and bsd"02:05
Terminusheaddown, btw, playing with the bot is frowned upon in here. you could pm the bot though.02:06
headdownTerminus: thx, just found it out...sorry02:06
Stormx2 /msg ubotu <blacK>02:06
Stormx2*blah o.o02:06
rohanapokryphos: but devint 's point between collabaration between linux and bsd is absurd02:07
Stormx2Whats so absurd about it, fill me in?02:07
krak`nixanyone know how to setup color schemes with xboard?02:07
apokryphosrohan: collaboration occurs between all UNIX operating systems, even if you don't know it.02:07
rohanStormx2: what does he mean by that, in the first place ?02:07
rohanapokryphos: define "collabaration"02:07
devintwell02:08
apokryphosrohan: get a dictionary02:08
Stormx2XD02:08
rohanapokryphos: not funny.02:08
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apokryphosI'm deadly serious02:08
Terminuswell, UNIX operating systems mostly have the same apps. :)02:08
devintby collaboration between linux and bsd i mean what it says02:08
devinttake for instance02:08
devintopenssh02:08
devintthat CAME from openbsd02:08
Taliesin-laptopmmm, installing over net @ 8MB/sec02:08
Taliesin-laptopyummy02:08
Stormx2>.> lucky sod02:08
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devintthe bsd's are doing some pretty revolutionary things with security02:09
TerminusTaliesin-laptop, you're making me very jealous. :p02:09
devintlinux could even learn from dragonflybsd02:09
Taliesin-laptopi do run the File Mirror for the ISP ;)02:09
devintespecially02:09
Taliesin-laptopand im, about 50 meters from it ;)02:09
devinthaha02:09
rohandevint: so, you mean, taking good stuff from bsd and putting it into linux  ?02:09
rohanthats great, then :D02:09
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Terminushahaha02:09
rohanCasanova: the fun is over, sorry :D02:10
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Casanovaif rohan has been creating trouble here.. he is just a tiny little focker ;-)02:10
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Taliesin-laptop800 packages, 1min 10seconds :)02:10
Stormx2>.>02:10
rohanCasanova: thanks a lot, for speaking on my behalf.02:10
Taliesin-laptopnot a bad efforrt ;)02:11
rohanbut i dont really appreciate int.02:11
rohanand i request you to mind your own business.02:11
bob2probably plenty, folks.02:11
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rohanTaliesin-laptop: wow, 8mbps is unheard-of here02:11
Terminusdevint, i think you just want one ultimate distro. :p02:11
rohanTaliesin-laptop: the maximum affordable here is 26kbps02:11
Terminusrohan, you mean dialup?02:12
rohanTerminus: no. "cable"02:12
rohanTerminus: the cable net is very expensive.02:12
Terminusrohan, 26kbps?! isn't that slower than dialup?02:12
Astxistnote to self: do not unmount usbdisk while nautilus is browsing it, it's bad ;)02:12
rohanTerminus: and speeds in mbps is rare, and expensive02:12
rohanTerminus: dial up here is 2kbps02:12
Taliesin-laptophaha, im not talking mbps thou, MB/sec :)02:12
Astxist2kbps :/02:12
Astxistthat's horrible02:13
Terminusrohan, oh... you mean Kbps. thought that was in bits. :p02:13
Astxisttalking about modem speed02:13
rohanTerminus: yeah, my bad02:13
Astxistanyone know how to tell what speed you're connected at?02:13
Terminusrohan, i'll count myself lucky then. i'm getting 90 Kbps here. :)02:13
rohanAstxist: download speed over cable is 26kbps ,connection speed 256kbps02:13
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rohanTerminus: here bieng ?02:14
rohan*being02:14
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TerminusAstxist, make sure no other computers are using bandwidth and then you can check at http://www.internetfrog.com02:14
Astxistoh02:14
rohanapokryphos: hey... havent we met before ? you are the guy who swore by Qt02:14
Astxistyou're talking about kBps02:14
Terminusrohan, you mean country?02:14
Astxistgot it now :)02:14
rohanapokryphos: and even recomended me a lot of Qt apps02:14
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AstxistTerminus, I meant modem speed02:14
rohanTerminus: yes. /me is india02:14
Astxistconnection rate02:15
Terminusrohan, philippines here.02:15
rohanapokryphos: back then i was da_bon_bon :D02:15
rohanTerminus: ok.02:15
Taliesin-laptopAustralia here :)02:15
Astxistnot trasfer rate02:15
bob2ah02:15
apokryphosrohan: swore by Qt? Perhaps. I am a KDE-user02:15
AstxistTaliesin-laptop, same here :)02:15
Taliesin-laptop:>02:15
TerminusAstxist, check your modem manual? :)02:15
Terminusmy bad.02:15
rohanapokryphos: yes, i remember. on #kubuntu. :)02:15
bob2internetfrog looks kinda useless02:15
Taliesin-laptopcentral? or east or west? :P02:15
AstxistTerminus, ;p02:15
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Terminusbob2, i just use it for checking bandwidth. nothing else. there's always cnet. :)02:16
bob2how does it check bandwidth?02:16
Terminusbob2, actually, that's what the ISP here uses to check so i just go along with them.02:16
bob2why not wget an ubuntu iso?02:16
rohanlol02:16
rohanthats a nice way02:16
Terminusthere's a java applet there for that.02:16
rohanmsv.dk is nice too02:16
Terminuswell, don't want to strain the ubuntu servers when all i'm doing is checking bandwidth. :)02:16
bob2it also says I'm in australia02:17
bob2and shows my location as somewhere off the west coast02:17
sapohi fellows, quick question.. after installing breezy, my vlc, bittornado and other apps that when in hoary had a gtk look, now looks like some old apps without my gtk theme.. what am i missing?02:17
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Taliesin-laptopbut i work for an ISP :)02:19
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Astxist;p02:19
Taliesin-laptopno you dont, or you have to deal with Whingepoolers :)02:19
TerminusTaliesin-laptop, what's that?02:20
vbgunzdoes Ubuntu come with a VNC viewer by default for remote administration OR do I have to download one? I would like to control the computers in my room... Any help is appreciated!02:20
AstxistTaliesin-laptop, could I be hired for managing them >:)02:20
Taliesin-laptopahh, www.whirlpool.net.au is a Broadband forum for Australia, we call it whingepool cause most customers on it whinge :)02:20
Astxistlol02:20
vbgunzoh sorry... I think I got it02:20
vbgunzwill find out now02:20
johndarkhorsebob2: would moving from powerpc to ppc64 have anything to do with auto_bleh.pl misworking?02:21
Taliesin-laptopAstxist, not up to me ;)02:21
Taliesin-laptopwe already have 3 staff who sit there with whips, we seem to manage them well ;)02:21
Astxistheh I'm going to stick with my current provider if I ever get to a location that I can have broadband at02:21
AstxistTaliesin-laptop, lol02:21
bob2johndarkhorse: very unlikely02:22
Terminusvbgunz, the Terminal Server client that was installed by default seems to support it. :)02:22
bob2especially since I'm pretty sure ubuntu does not have a ppc64 port yet ;p02:22
Astxistwow my friends site kills firefox good, 100% cpu usage just scrolling down the page :)02:22
vbgunzTerminus: thanks, am trying now :)02:23
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Taliesin-laptopwoot02:24
Taliesin-laptoppc is installed02:24
Taliesin-laptopnow to get the second monitor working *goes to fiddle with xorg.conf*02:24
Astxistheh02:24
johndarkhorsebob2: my powermac reports linux-image-powerpc64-smp being the running kernel02:25
Terminuswhoa... looks like i can use it to connect to windows too. didn't know that...02:25
bob2johndarkhorse: oh, sure, but you have the same user programs as you did with a 32-bit kernel.02:25
bob2I guess there could be a weird kernel bug that triggers something in perl, but I'd think it unlikely02:25
johndarkhorsebob2: they didnt know in #irssi, either02:26
johndarkhorsebob2: so i wrote my own horrible twisted scrit, lol02:26
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_native_do we have any tor users here?02:30
Eternalisttor?02:30
bob2probably not02:30
Astxist_native_, not that I know of02:30
bob2I think they're banned02:30
_native_the onion router.02:30
HappyFooli believe tor users are banned from #ubuntu due to past abuse02:31
vbgunzhello everyone... does anyone know of a better and faster vncviewer than vncviewer :P? The repaint is pain stakingly slow on trying to remotely work with another computer on the lan... Is there a way to speed the repaint? I am reading the help file and think depth might do it... anyone?02:31
_native_thats dumb02:31
Astxist_native_, I don't use it myself but I've read their pages02:31
johndarkhorsenathan_: tor hostnames are not allowed in #ubuntu02:31
Eternalistvbgunz, no02:31
bob2vbgunz: why are you even using vnc at all?02:31
mintywalkertinyvnc ?02:31
bob2vbgunz: 'ssh -X user@remotehost', run whatecer X command you want02:31
vbgunzbob2: playing around with it... trying to see whats up with it02:31
_native_wow someone makes a great tool to protect us and the an irc channel ruins it. :)02:32
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bob2oh, don't be stupid02:32
vbgunzbob2: connection refused... will a gui pop up? I sort of want the gui...02:32
Astxist_native_, all tools can be abused02:32
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bob2if someone has an actual need to be anonymous in here, I'll ad an exception02:32
tuxxxbladehail02:32
bob2until then, it's only been fuckwits abusing it02:32
_native_Astinus; duh02:32
bob2vbgunz: did you install ssh?02:33
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tuxxxbladeim on another session how do i log on root in a term?02:33
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sapohi all, asking again.. after installing breezy, my vlc, bittornado and other apps that when in hoary had a gtk look, now looks like some old apps without my gtk theme.. what should i do for these apps to have gtk look?02:33
bob2tuxxxblade: what are you trying to do?02:33
tuxxxbladei wanna install a thingy that could allow me to read ntfs partitions02:33
vbgunzbob2: in the system monitor I think I have ssh-agent... I need the server huh?02:33
Eternalistbob2, how do you use ssh to display X windows?02:33
bob2Eternalist: ssh -X user@blah02:33
bob2vbgunz: yes, openssh-server on the desintation02:33
Eternalisti just tried it02:33
johndarkhorseubotu: tell tuxxxblade about ntfs02:34
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Eternalistit gives me a prompt02:34
bob2Eternalist: yes02:34
vbgunzbob2 ok02:34
Eternalisti typed xmms and it just gave me a new line02:34
Eternalistand nothing came up02:34
_native_ I think everyone has the right to be anon whether its a need or not is another question. :] 02:34
bob2Eternalist: then run whatever X application you want02:34
mirakchecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables02:34
bob2_native_: that's awesome02:34
HappyFoolalso 'ssh -Y' -- i can't remember which one is better02:34
bob2_native_: people can be anonymou in their private irc channel02:34
tuxxxbladejohndarkhorse, how so02:34
mirakI have almost always this error when I try to build stuffs02:34
tuxxxbladeoh sry nm thnks02:34
bob2mirak: what are you trying to compile?02:34
HappyFool_native_: maybe continue this discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic ?02:34
johndarkhorsetuxxxblade: check your private messages, ubotu is a info bot02:34
tuxxxbladeyeah i saw that thnx02:35
mirakbob2: I try to build enlightenment, but I also got this error when building packages from sources with apt-build02:35
ompaul_native_, this is a support channel - that is not :-)02:35
Eternalistbob2, im tryign to run X programs and its not showing up02:35
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bob2mirak: enlightenement i in ubuntu02:35
bob2mirak: apt-build is of no use at all02:35
_native_ok02:35
mirakbob2: I upgraded to daper and the problem is still there02:35
johndarkhorsemirak: do you WANT to build enlightenment or just run it? and are you on x86 hardware?02:35
bob2mirak: anyway, install build-essential02:35
bob2mirak: um, go reinstall hoary02:35
_native_joining off-topic ;p02:35
bob2mirak: if you have no idea how to install a compiler, dapper is going to be an enourmous problem for you02:36
nomad111is there a program that lets me format a partition as NTFS02:36
mirakbob2: that's breezy, what the hell are you talking about ?02:36
nomad111something i can use in linux02:36
johndarkhorsenomad111: windows02:36
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mirakjohndarkhorse: I am on amd6402:36
nomad111dun hav windows it got ruined02:36
nomad111and i cant access the cd either02:36
bob2mirak: find, use breezy then02:36
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mirakjohndarkhorse: I need to build it to run it02:36
bob2mirak: if you're using dapper, you have already lost02:36
Astxistnomad111, NTFS writing in nix last I checked was problemattic02:36
mirakbob2: the compiler is borken in breezy02:36
Eternalistbob2, wait it does work, i just opened mozilla, but i cant open xmms or anything02:36
bob2mirak: um, no, sorry02:36
mirakbob2: yes it is. So is apt-build in breezy02:37
Stormx2How do I give a command / launcher a shortcut key? I did it in hoary...02:37
bob2mirak: what does 'dpkg -l build-essential | tail -n1' print out?02:37
nomad111far out i need to rebuild my mbr and i dunno how02:37
mirakbob2: I get this error on breezy first02:37
bob2mirak: yes, apt-build is useless and broken02:37
johndarkhorsemirak: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155&highlight=enlightenment02:37
bob2mirak: it's not an error02:37
mirakbob2: it's useless for you02:37
nomad111the only thing keeping this comp together is ubuntu02:37
bob2mirak: it's the configure script bombing out because you didn't read the FAQ, or use google, or check that you had a compielr installed02:37
Taliesin-laptopfrack02:37
Taliesin-laptopi hate this bit02:37
bob2mirak: it's useless because it does nothing useful, and it's broken02:37
johndarkhorsemirak: apt-build leaves much to be desired. however, using apt-get to build pkgs from the repos works well02:37
Taliesin-laptopsetting up TwinView on nvidia for both of my monitors02:37
mirakbob2: ii  build-essential 11.1           informational list of build-essential packages02:37
tuxxxbladewhere could i find some codecs for my xmms or totem player - im a lil newb sry02:38
johndarkhorseubotu: tell tuxxxblade about restricted02:38
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nomad111im so stuck right now02:38
bob2Bogaurd: that's pretty unlikely, unless you installed netatalk yourself (or maybe one of the tasks did?)02:38
bob2bah02:38
bob2!+info build-essential dapper02:38
bob2!+info build-essential breezy02:38
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Eternalistbob2, any idea why i cant run xmms?02:39
bob2mirak: and you get that error when running e's ./configure?02:39
cheezy1tuxx: try synaptic, you can find it in the menu system/administration menu02:39
Astxisttuxxxblade, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats <- might help you02:39
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Astxisttuxxxblade, if you're after the codecs I think you're after02:40
johndarkhorsemirak: that forum link i posted will get you e17, i've used it and so have several other folks. and it wont botch your system02:40
bob2Eternalist: works for me02:40
mirakjohndarkhorse: I used something like for x8602:40
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mirakjohndarkhorse: that02:40
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johndarkhorsemirak: that forum article works well, otw i wouldn't recomend it02:41
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cheezy1was harder to get on this ircserver than installing breeze :)02:42
vbgunzbob2: I "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" on the destination pc, then ran "nohup openssh-server" on it but it returns no file or directory... It looked like it created some keys and I had no errors...02:42
bob2vbgunz: no, don't run that02:42
vbgunzbob2: :(02:42
bob2vbgunz: every useful server package in ubuntu will start itself up on boot02:42
bob2vbgunz: now you can just ssh to the machine02:42
mirakjohndarkhorse: where does it put the libs ?02:42
vbgunzbob2: so logout then log back in and try again?02:43
Stormx2How do I give a command / launcher a shortcut key? I did it in hoary..02:43
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Red-Soxhey02:44
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Eternalistanyone know how to change default programs for opening certain files?02:44
Eternalisti dont want xmms to open my audio files by default02:44
sunkawhat's the update proceedure like from hoary to breezy? will it wipe my files/configs?02:45
Red-Soxsunka, not if you use the repositories02:45
Stormx2sunka: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:45
vbgunzbob2: is there anyway I can use a GUI through SSH?02:45
Stormx2I beleive02:45
tuxxxbladeguys how do i get to log root in a console ?02:45
Stormx2sudo02:45
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tuxxxbladesry bout that02:46
sunkathnx, I was hoping there was an apt-get something I could do :-)02:46
bob2vbgunz: yes, you ssh in and run whatever X program you want02:46
bob2tuxxxblade: plese don't02:46
bob2vbgunz: if you want a desktop, I guess vnc is all you can do02:46
bob2(simply, anyway)02:46
cheezy1yes but if he just wants to run one program remote over ssh , it's golden02:46
Stormx2shortcut keys?02:46
Stormx2anyone?02:46
vbgunzbob2: I am sorry for misunderstanding... Yes, the desktop is what I would like to see...02:46
bob2sunka: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes02:47
johndarkhorsemirak: it is an enlightenmt dr17 repo for x86 ubuntu, it puts the libs in /usr/lib i would suppose02:47
bob2Stormx2: if someone knew, they would have answered02:47
johndarkhorsemirak: this article has no buildiing involved02:47
bob2Stormx2: try the mailing list, perhaps, or #gnome on irc.gnome.org02:47
Stormx2bob2: kay02:47
cheezy1Stormx2: specify problem please .02:47
Stormx2cheezy1: I want to add a shortcut key to a specific command/launcher02:47
mirakjohndarkhorse: if it puts them in /usr/local/ it's ok02:47
cheezy1in metacity ?02:47
Red-Soxstormx2: I know how02:48
Stormx2Red-Sox: Fire away :)02:48
cheezy1if in metacity then you can use system/preferences/keyboard shortcuts02:48
Red-Soxstormx2: system--->prefs---->shortcut keys02:48
Red-SoxStormx2, in gnome02:48
Stormx2No good02:49
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Stormx2I want to to a specific command I made02:49
Red-SoxStormx2, why not? not in gnome?02:49
vbgunzbob2: well, all is working well with SSH... I am running commands on the remote machine... nice...02:49
vbgunzbob2: thanks!02:49
Stormx2No, it needs to be a custom command that i made!02:49
Stormx2And I can't add it to keyboard shortcuts02:49
Red-Soxoh02:49
Stormx2so its no good ;-)02:49
Red-SoxStormx2, did you look in the properties?02:50
sunkaStorm: so you can run a command from the terminal...02:50
sunka?02:50
_native_Stormx2; what are you wanting to do ??02:50
cheezy1if you want systemwide then you can put it in /etc/inittab02:50
tuxxxbladetho how do i log root on ?02:50
tuxxxbladeit dosent even has a pass damit02:50
johndarkhorsemirak: these are ubuntu debs, so you can remove them with apt-get02:50
_native_you can use .bashrc02:50
Stormx2Red-Sox: yes I looked in properties02:50
bob2tuxxxblade: please stop it02:50
Stormx2_native_: oh? how?02:50
bob2tuxxxblade: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:50
Terminustuxxxblade, sudo su -02:50
Stormx2!root02:51
uboturoot is, like, disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:51
_native_is this a command or script?02:51
tuxxxbladeok thanx02:51
_native_Stormx2; ?02:51
Red-SoxStormx2, you knoe you can edit those key combos, if that is what you ment02:51
Stormx2_native_: Script02:51
gfishcan i mount an ntfs drive so i can use it to listen to music02:51
gfishjust reading02:51
Stormx2in /home/me/bin/scripthere02:51
_native_ahh mkdir bin in your home then make sure its in your path.02:51
_native_Stormx2;02:51
Stormx2gfish: Yes02:51
tuxxxbladethnx a lot02:51
kevornot relaly about ubuntu and dunno if it's legal, but anyone got handelmod.ttf somehwere?02:52
gfishstormx2> how02:52
Stormx2!ntfs02:52
ubotuntfs is, like, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:52
_native_Stormx2; or is that what you have already done?>02:52
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Stormx2_native_: yes, but that doesn't let me use a shortcut key!02:52
candyban_Hi guys02:52
Stormx2_native_: Been there done that ;-)02:52
Red-Soxstormx2 is in much demand ;)02:52
_native_ahh i see shortcuts. ;p02:52
_native_humm....02:53
ptlohmm02:53
Stormx2_native_: I can run it fine, I'm just wondering if I can set a shortcut key ^.^02:53
ptlowhere's that wiki page with package requests for universe? i can't seem to find it02:53
mirakjohndarkhorse: debs from cvs ?02:53
Terminusjohndarkhorse, sorry...02:53
candyban_Just booted my G4 for the first time ... (still running hoary)02:53
_native_Stormx2; that woul;d be cool i want to know as well. ;] 02:53
Stormx2_native_: lol02:53
candyban_Live CD is awesome ... good work guys02:53
candyban_is there a separate channel for ppc users?02:54
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johndarkhorsemirak: read the forum page, i'm assuming they are cvs enlightenment pkgd for ubuntu. i use e all the time now (gotten using the forum) and have no problems02:54
Stormx2candyban_: maybe #ubuntu-ppc02:54
Stormx2?02:54
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EternalistIs there a way to have gkrellm pop up on boot?02:55
_native_Stormx2; damn now i want to know bad there's a hundred commands id like to run with hotkey combos.02:55
Eternalistis there a start up script or something?02:55
bob2Eternalist:  you don't want it to pop up on boot02:55
candyban_Stormx2: it has an astounding 4 users ... huge userbase appearently :)02:55
bob2Eternalist: you want it to appear on your display at login02:55
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Stormx2_native_: i asked in ##gnome - they said gconf-values02:55
mirakjohndarkhorse: not for amd6402:55
ptloEternalist, go to System->Preferences->Sessions an add a new program to be run when entering session02:55
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_native_Stormx2; thats what i would think. tell me if you get it figured out!.. ;] 02:56
johndarkhorsemirak: i asked at the beginning if you were on x86.. .. ..02:56
strugglerhow do i extract the contents of the initrd.img02:56
mlahelloss, in which pachage I can find /usr/sbin/runscript in ubuntu ?02:56
ptlomla, in terminal: dpkg -S /usr/sbin/runscript02:57
_jason!shortcuts02:57
ubotu_jason: Syntax error in line 102:57
_jason!shortcut02:57
ubotusomebody said shortcut was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7956002:57
bob2struggler: what're you trying to do?02:57
Stormx2I just found  http://gnome-hacks.jodrell.net/hacks.html?id=1402:57
mirakjohndarkhorse: I said I wasn't02:57
strugglerbob2: see what is in the initrd image, I think  it has remnants of an old md array02:57
_jasonStormx2, _native_, the link ubotu pasted is a howto to creating shortcuts (I think that's what you want?)02:58
bob2struggler: it's a gzip'd ext2 filesystem in hoary, and a cpio archive on breezy, iirc02:58
_native__jason; thanx02:58
bob2(file will tell you for sure)02:58
Stormx2_jason: No good. I don't have an apps > metacity menu02:58
_jasonStormx2, in gconf?02:58
Stormx2wait lol02:59
johndarkhorsemirak: i just found this, it may interest you  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48616&highlight=enlightenment+cvs03:00
strugglerbob2: i tried gzip, cpio just hangs, file says "inux Compressed ROM File System data"03:00
strugglerbob2: i tried compress and bzip2 as well03:01
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Stormx2Oh baby it works great :)03:01
Stormx2I press F12 and a box pops up asking me to enter an artist I want to play!03:02
Stormx2:D03:02
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Stormx2<3 shell scripting03:02
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smostruggler: I believe that's cramfs?  take a look at the cramfsprogs package, it's description appears to match your task03:03
mirakjohndarkhorse: thanks03:03
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johndarkhorsemirak: on the ubuntuforums is a link to 'get_e.sh' that is optimized that may also work. it is not the get_e.sh from rastermann03:05
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strugglersmo: cramfsprogs has mkcramfs and cramfsck, but no way I can see to extract03:05
mirakjohndarkhorse: where is it ?03:05
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johndarkhorsemirak: i've been looking myself (and kicking myself for not bookmarking it)03:07
smostruggler: rather deceptively, it's the -x option to cramfsck03:07
EternalistHow can i make it so that gkrellm doesnt appear on the taskbar03:07
Eternalisti dont want it there03:07
Eternalisti just want it running03:07
strugglersmo: rather?  looks like a whole lot deceptive to me...Thanks for your time, I appreciate it.03:07
hawknigI and a friend of me want to make a connection between our computers via ethernet.do we just need a cable or some special packages for my and his computer?03:08
hawknighis box is xp mine is ubuntu03:08
mjrhawknig, if there's to be no switch in between, you need a crossover cable (unless either of your network card supports crossover with normal cables)03:09
hawknigwe have already the cable03:09
johndarkhorseEternalist: start it from a terminal and look at it's options (or try conky)03:09
Eternalistgkrellm -w?03:09
mjryou shouldn't need special packages, though I'm not sure what would be the overall easiest way to set appropriate IPs for the pair03:09
hawknigI just want to know if any problems will arise cause we are using different op systems03:09
Eternalistjohndarkhorse, know anything else, i can run like gkrellm because i just created another panel so that it wouldnt overlap my windows03:11
Eternalistand theres a space so03:11
johndarkhorseEternalist: try "conky"03:12
johndarkhorse!info conky03:12
ubotuconky: (highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1.3.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 84 kB, Installed size: 292 kB03:12
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cigahi03:12
cigawhere do I find documentation for my mysql 4.0? in which package? in Debian it is mysql-doc, which does not seem to be in ubuntu...03:13
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cheezy1ciga: on www.mysql.se ?03:15
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_native_whats the best terminal based irc client i want to ditch xchat.03:15
_native_?03:15
mjrirssi03:15
mjr(package irssi-text)03:15
johndarkhorsemirak: you might also join #e  and ask for assistance, i hear they are quite friendly03:16
cigacheezy1: I am looking for a package to install.03:16
johndarkhorsenathan_: irssi03:16
johndarkhorse_native_: irssi03:16
johndarkhorseeverybody: irssi03:16
_native_lol03:16
ciga:)03:16
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_jasonhelp03:19
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ompaul_jason, you can find the definition of the word help in a dictionary03:20
welp_ubuntuhi ompaul03:20
_jasonompaul: lol sry I'm on irssi and was looking for some help in there03:20
kevorhow can i remove TOTEM as a plugin for firefox, it does not play what i want it to play03:20
kevormplayer plugin does03:20
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Eternalistjohndarkhorse, can you put your conkyrc on pastebin or something03:21
_jasonompaul: would you happen to know the help command for irssi?  so I can see shortcuts etc03:21
Eternalistjohndarkhorse, i want to see how you put it03:21
ompaulwelp_ubuntu, hello03:21
Eternalist_jason, isnt it just /help03:21
_jason\help03:21
_jasonEternalist: nothing happens03:22
johndarkhorse_jason: its /help03:22
_jasoni'll go read on the interweb03:22
_jasonexit03:22
Eternalistlol03:22
Eternalistnub03:22
Eternalistjohndarkhorse, can you post your conkyrc?03:23
johndarkhorseEternalist: i dont use conky, but at conky.sf.net there are conkyrcs-a-plenty03:24
Eternalistwhat do you use?03:24
Eternalistu dont monitor at all>03:24
johndarkhorseEternalist: i have hte system monitor applets in my panel (i run powerpc and none of the sensor pkgs seem to work)03:24
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Eternalistoh theres system monitor applets for gnome that just sit in the panel?03:25
Eternalistim gonna get those too then, whats the package name03:25
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johndarkhorseEternalist: right click on the panel, > add to panel > system monitor03:25
Eternalisthardware monitor?03:26
Eternalistoh03:26
johndarkhorseEternalist: then you can right click on the system monitor applet and configure it to your happiness03:26
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Eternalistthank you03:26
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guydebordjust registered my nickname can someone tell me if it worked?03:28
johndarkhorseguydebord: it worked03:28
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sunsunguydebord, hah - how goes the SI03:30
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guydebordok just got my wireless connection configured correctly at a freinds house. Now at home I tried to reconfigure my network configuration to my own browser and nothing. Anyone know how my interface properties should look like?03:32
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popeyanyone here use liferea for downloading podcasts?03:34
popeyi  don't seem to be able to get it to autosave enclosures (mp3 files)03:34
popeyhttp://liferea.sourceforge.net/help/subscriptions_en.html last screenshot on that page has a tab called "enclosures" which I don't see.03:34
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Stormx2Oh baby now my script works dandy03:37
Eternalistirssi is the shiznit :)03:37
psychocatI've changed my usplash to blue. After I log in through gdm, while it loads gnome the screen in brown.  Any way to change that?03:38
Stormx2I press F12, a dialog box pops up with an input in it, asking for an artist to play!03:38
Stormx2And then it resets my bmp playlist and adds all the albums :D03:38
_jasonexit03:38
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_jasonlol did it again... sry03:38
EternalistStormx2: what did you code it in?03:39
EternalistIs it possible to specify the -X flag in putty, so that my friend can connect and use the X applications?03:40
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Stormx2Eternalist: Bash03:41
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Stormx2Eternalist: (and zenity)03:42
Stormx2I'm just learning bash. Its full of quirks and commands and stuff03:42
Eternalistyea03:42
Eternalisti think a simple sed script could easily cycle through the artist names and organize03:42
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smoEternalist, it's burried in the menu at the side.  Connection->SSH->X11.  Assuming they're using windows (hence putty), they're gonna need a 3rd-party X11 server (putty just makes the connection available)03:42
Eternalistsmo: Yea i just wined it and saw03:43
Eternalistsmo: thanks :)03:43
Eternalist3rd party x11 server?03:44
Eternalistso what do i tell him to download?03:44
Eternalistthe reason why hes gonna be using my computer is because hes getting too much spyware and whatever else, even though i told him to use firefox03:44
smoEternalist, there's one in cygwin .. there's also a few commercial products.  I don't use X on windows however, so I can't recommend any03:45
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Eternalisthow about eXceed?03:45
Eternalisti think that costs money, nvm03:47
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rob_pEternalist:  Exceed is good but very expensive... Xwin32 is very good and much less expensive.  They even have a student discounted version --> http://www.starnet.com/  It's the best I've found so far.03:49
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somerville32Is the #ubuntu-unregged new?03:49
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smopersonally I'd rather fix the problem at it's source and hand your friend a LiveCD.  Kinda blurs the line between fix and evangelism however03:50
Tweek888hello, I was trying to install breezy and it kept freezing at 6% for installing base03:51
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Tweek888what should I do? burn another disc?03:51
Tweek888:\03:51
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johndarkhorsesomerville32: -unregged is a spambot tagging and k-lining channel03:52
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smoTweek888, there's an option somewhere in the installer to verify the CD .. should be a quick & easy way of seeing if that's your problem03:52
Tweek888it was verified03:52
somerville32johndarkhorse: I know what it is, I'm wondering if it is new03:53
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can-o-wormscan anyone tell me what to do or read to get the synaptics driver to work on 5.10?03:54
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sewoylTweek888, can you tell ur problem again?03:55
Juhazcan-o-worms, should work out of the box03:55
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Tweek888sewoyl, the installer dosn't actualy hang03:55
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da_shrewdsewoyl,can u help me03:55
Tweek888but it goes VERY slow03:55
SkylineHey guys03:55
Tweek888taking about 5 minutes for package once it hits 6%03:55
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SkylineCan anyone help me/03:55
somerville32Skyline: Ask your question03:56
sewoylTweek888, on my computer I had big problems when using the wifi card as the default one03:56
da_shrewdanyone can help me pleaseeeee03:56
sewoylTweek888, (when installing brezy)03:56
Tweek888sewoyl, on the install? :|03:56
Tweek888ah03:56
da_shrewdubuntu doesn't detect my mouse03:56
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SkylineI am the biggest linux n00b ever.03:56
Tweek888I don't have a wifi card03:56
can-o-wormsJuhaz: well, all i know is that i set MaxTapTime to zero, restarted xorg and nothing has changed... so i am assuming it is not working03:56
da_shrewdi use serial mouse03:56
Tweek888oh.03:56
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Tweek888:<03:56
SkylineAll i want to do is install nvidia drivers, and instal limewire, and an mp3 player - and frankly i have NO idea.03:56
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johndarkhorseubotu: tell Skyline about restricted03:57
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johndarkhorseubotu: tell Skyline about nvidia03:57
johndarkhorseSkyline: check your private msgs, please03:57
Skylineok john03:57
SkylineThanks mate. im stressed to the max :@03:57
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somerville32Skyline: If you need more help, feel free to ask :)03:58
AstxistSkyline, you'll get there :)03:58
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Skylinethanks guys.03:58
EarthpigAnyone here ever built a custom Ubuntu kernel?03:58
LjLubotu: tell skyline about limewire03:58
Tweek888Skyline, "xmms" www.limewire.com, www.java.com , http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/ (debian ubuntu same difference)03:58
SkylineAlso how do i login to shell?03:58
da_shrewdsomerville,can u help me?03:58
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sewoylTweek888, learning fro mmy experience I would say the problem might come from some hardware (i still have no idea why the wifi card causes problemes when copying packages but it really seems it caused them)03:58
SkylineI dont no how to install anything though.03:58
EternalistSkyline: apt-get03:58
SkylineWHen i open up the archives, it says.03:58
EternalistSkyline: sudo apt-get install packagename03:58
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Skylinearchive type not supported.03:59
sewoylTweek888, you could try unplugging any hardware you dont need for install03:59
Eternalistread the starter guide03:59
AstxistSkyline, or use synatpic package manger03:59
topiasHI!03:59
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Eternalisthttp://ubuntuguide.org/03:59
Tweek888sewoyl, that pc has no extra :P03:59
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Tweek888it is pos03:59
Skylineok so how do i run the archives on my desktop?03:59
Astxist'lo topias03:59
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LjLSkyline: what archives are on your desktop?03:59
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topiasCould I ask a Question?04:00
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Astxisttopias, sure04:00
sewoylTweek888, or if you have broadband do the server install and then use apt-get to download the remaining04:00
johndarkhorseEternalist: please dont advise that site blindly04:00
Skylinelimewirelinux.rpm04:00
Skylinexmms.rpm04:00
Skylinerarlinux.tar.gz04:00
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topiasSo, how can I use KDE in ubuntu?04:00
LjLSkyline: you do *not* install those04:00
johndarkhorseSkyline: xmms and rar are in the repos04:00
LjLSkyline: those are RPM archives, and are not meant to be used on ubuntu04:00
binaHow do I make it so I can print without having to chmod 777 /dev/lp0 every time i send a document?04:00
johndarkhorseubotu: tell Skyline about repos04:00
da_shrewdanyone please help me04:00
Tweek888Skyline, apt-get install alien after getting fake root04:00
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johndarkhorseSkyline: enable the universe and multiverse repos04:00
akaGodtopias, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:00
Tweek888alien -i limewirelinux.rpm04:01
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johndarkhorseSkyline: you'll then have access to over 16,000 programs04:01
deFryskSkyline, ubuntu uses debs, not rpms04:01
Tweek888ALIEN04:01
topiasand where must I write that?04:01
Skylineok.04:01
Tweek888:|04:01
sewoylis there a way to setup gmail for mailto: links in firefox ??04:01
akaGodtopias, in a terminal04:01
Eternalistjohndarkhorse: why not?04:01
deFryskTweek888, alien is highly overrated04:01
Skylinehow do i enable these repo's?04:01
da_shrewdubuntu doesn't detect my mouse04:01
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da_shrewdubuntu doesn't detect my mouse04:01
topiasOK, trying...04:01
Astxisttopias, in your terminal04:01
LjLTweek888: why are you going to suggest using alien to somebody who cannot open a shell and doesn't know what repositories are? doesn't seem a good idea to me04:01
Eternalistjohndarkhorse: he's not gonna learn linux if you keep spoon feeding him04:01
Astxisttopias, accessories - terminal , if you're using 5.1004:01
johndarkhorseSkyline: read the priv msgs ubotu has sent you04:01
Tweek888alien is hawt04:01
deFryskTweek888, whatever04:02
johndarkhorseEternalist: if one does the incorrect thing, one wont have an ubuntu to learn on04:02
LjLTweek888: many things are, which i still wouldn't recommend to a newbie04:02
_jasonsewoyl, https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=12704:02
sewoyl_jason, thanks04:02
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topiasYes, it needs Kubuntu disc04:02
da_shrewdanybody can help me?04:02
da_shrewd:(04:02
topias And I have it, 5.1004:03
akaGoddoes anyone know how to tell sylpheed-claws to only monitor certain folders (using IMAP) ?04:03
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_jasonsewoyl, https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=206 appears to be the latest supported version actually04:03
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nico8481hi04:03
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sewoyl_jason, yes thanks i downloaded the new one04:03
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binaHow do I make it so I can print without having to chmod 777 /dev/lp0 every time i send a document?04:04
da_shrewdsewoyl,can u help me?04:04
topiasIt started to install...04:04
_jasonsewoyl, yw04:04
topias75%04:04
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nico8481any idea how to customize (add/edit site list) the "search tool" in the upper-right corner of firefox?04:04
da_shrewdjohndarkhorse,can u help me?04:04
topiasover 400mb, quite lot, I think04:05
nico8481i found the "add" but not the "modify"04:05
LjLda_shrewd: what kind of mouse do you have?04:05
topiasBTW, I'm using Ubuntu 5.10, Finnish04:05
da_shrewdserial KeyMouse04:06
Skylinehttp://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)04:06
sewoylda_shrewd, didn't know somebody still used serial mice:)04:06
SkylineW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://au.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/au.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages)04:06
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da_shrewdhehe..my pc is too old04:07
da_shrewd:)04:07
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LjLda_shrewd: perhaps you should try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", answer all the questions with the default (i.e. press Enter) until the questions about the mouse come up. there, when it asks about the mouse port, you should chose /dev/ttyS0, or whatever port your mouse is connected to04:07
fecwhats the software to limit eth's traffic? ex: limitted to 2kB/s04:08
topias52% of the total process...04:08
LjLfec: wondershaper could be one04:08
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fecthx !04:08
LjLfec: or, "apt-cache search traffic shap"04:08
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somerville32pm me if you need help04:09
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_jasonnico8481, http://www.firefoxtutor.com/25/searchboxes/04:09
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da_shrewdthanx ljl04:09
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Skylinejohndarkhorse mate do you have MSN or something im losing it.04:09
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sneakycan someone help me?04:09
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topiasWhat's the best place to get safe Ubuntu programs from Internet?04:09
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LjLtopias: the repositories? ;)04:10
sneakywhat is a good program to look dvd's?04:10
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johndarkhorsesneaky: mplayer04:10
joe__how do i get audio to work correctly when running a game like frozenbubble?  audio works in xwindows but not command line stuff04:10
sneakyhow i get mplayer?04:10
topiasWhat are they? (I'm AM a kind of  n00b, only 3 days of Ubuntu)04:10
johndarkhorseubotu: tell sneaky about mplayer04:10
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johndarkhorsesneaky: look at your private messages, please04:11
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LjLubuntu: tell topias about repos04:11
penguin42are there any bugzilla admins or kernel-team mailing list moderators about?04:11
LjLubuntu: tell topias about sources04:11
KratosI have an error message in #flood, could someone look at it?04:11
KratosNvm...04:11
LjLtopias: they're the official places where you install software from, using "aptitude" or "Synaptic" or similar programs04:11
KratosJust tell me how I can find 'gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0'04:12
Kratos!gtk-204:12
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ubotuKratos: I give up, what is it?04:12
topiasAha... so where are they?04:12
Kratos!gtk04:12
ubotuKratos: Are you smoking crack?04:12
LjLtopias: for starters, just try "apt-cache search <keyword>", where "<keyword>" is some topic you'd like to find programs for, and look at the results. but, using the links Ubotu gave you, you can add more repos with a lot of software04:12
Kratosfrig....04:12
johndarkhorseKratos: install libgtk2*-dev04:12
Kratosahah04:13
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Kratosjohndarkhorse: ty04:13
joe__my audio works in xmms but it doesnt work in frozen bubble04:13
LjLtopias: please look at Ubotu's messages for the answer to your question04:13
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wayne_one usage question...i apt-get install beep-media-player,after that firefox's fonts failed, nothing could be showed in the page...04:13
somerville32When I try to mount something useing xffm, it says "no smbfs support detected in kernel"04:13
jefletcherDoes anyone have a decent sources.list -- mine doesnt seem to have java, and the rest I try all give errors04:13
joe__and makes all the ubuntu sounds04:14
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LjLubotu: tell jefletcher about java04:14
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Eternalistjoe__: you using alsa?04:14
somerville32joe__ : Make sure that it is sending the sound to gstreamer04:14
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joe__Eternalist:  i would reckon, how do i check?04:14
topiasSo did someone sent me private message or something?04:14
sneakyi cant install mplayer i get message: coultnt find package mplayer04:15
LjLtopias: yes, the bot04:15
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Kratoser... that isn't working04:15
topiasWhere can I check?04:15
Eternalistwell first, check what output your using on xmms04:15
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Eternalisti thikn it may be OSS by default04:15
wayne_(Gecko:12658): Pango-CRITICAL **: pango_cairo_show_glyph_string: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT (font)' failed04:15
LjLtopias: it depends what program you're using04:15
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da_shrewdljl,after finish configure that file,should i restart to detect my mouse?04:15
topiasX-chat?04:15
Eternalistjoe__: you can type alsamixer, and if you get the mixer than you know you have it04:15
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sneakycan someone help me to install m player? i get a message like, couldn't find package mplayer04:16
Kratos(gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0)04:16
LjLtopias: well with x-chat you should simply have a tab saying "Ubotu"04:16
da_shrewdljl,after finish configure that file,should i restart my pc to detect my mouse?04:16
Kratosugh04:16
LjLda_shrewd: yes, restart X04:16
da_shrewdok04:16
port7is there such a thing as a ubuntu floppy install?04:16
HappyFool!tell sneaky about mplayer04:16
LjLsneaky: did you *read* the links?04:16
sneakyyes04:16
Kratos!help04:16
topiasIn down?04:16
johndarkhorsesneaky: enable universe and multiveverse repos04:17
jefletcherLjL: I used to "official" repositories the bot gave me, the package is still not found04:17
akaGodport7, yes, check the wiki04:17
johndarkhorseubotu: tell sneaky about repos04:17
LjLsneaky: did you follow the "AddingRepositoriesHowTo" link for multiverse?04:17
port7ok will check again04:17
HappyFoolport7: some install possibilities are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation04:17
johndarkhorseKratos: what is the trouble?04:17
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topiasI don't have such a tab.04:17
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LjLjefletcher: you're talking about java? there is no "java" package, you should follow the java-related links Ubotu has04:17
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HappyFoolsneaky: there is no mplayer package; you need to pick one of a few (e.g., mplayer-386)04:18
penguin42port7: Yeech - I hope you have the patience of a saint04:18
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HappyFool!javadebs04:18
ubotuhmm... javadebs is at Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/04:18
LjL!repos04:18
ubotufrom memory, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource04:18
ValquisHi, I'm testing live-cd, but for my internet connection to work I need to change the mac address of my network card. I did this with ifconfig eth0 hw ether <address> but what do I have to do after that for the changes to take effect?04:18
LjL!sources04:18
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic04:18
akaGodport7, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WithFloppies04:18
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LjLtopias: look at the links above04:18
jefletcherLjL: I'm on about the package, sun-j2se1.5 -- I don't mean the language or somthing04:18
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topiasOK04:19
LjLjefletcher: yes, i don't think there is any such package04:19
somerville32How do I mount smbfs?04:19
Eternalistso04:19
jefletcherLjL: there is, but i can't find it now, my old sources.list didnt work04:19
joe__Eternalist: alsamixer came up but it isnt working for frozenbubble04:19
port7somerville32: mount -t smbfs04:19
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LjLjefletcher: http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ apparently04:19
Eternalistjoe__: you have to make sure your card isnt tied up with anything else.04:19
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somerville32port7: I get the following error from dmesg | tail, "[4298715.200000]  smb_fill_super: missing data argument"04:20
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akaGoddoes anyone know how to tell sylpheed-claws to only monitor certain folders (using IMAP) ?04:20
joe__Eternalist: there isnt a sound server that can handle more than one sound at once?04:20
LjLsomerville32: port7 is right, but just don't use smbfs04:20
port7somerville32: have you installed smbfs?04:20
Stevmanyo04:20
LjLsomerville32: use cifs. "mount -t cifs"04:20
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topiasThanks a lot about the help04:20
jefletcherLjL: thanks, i also couldnt find the w32codecs package ;)04:21
PokerFacePenguinValquis: if you have a router that will clone address it might be easiest to do it that way04:21
sneakyyo yo yo:P04:21
johndarkhorsejefletcher: couldn't find or the server was down?04:21
ValquisPokerFacePenguin: I don't have.04:21
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somerville32Ljl: I get the following error from dmesg | tail, "[4298813.101000]   CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -2204:21
somerville32"04:21
Eternalistjoe__: there is, ESD04:21
jefletcherjohndarkhorse: well, they all tested fine on apt-get update04:21
Eternalistjoe__: alsa also does impretty sure, but i think frozenbubble defaults to OSS04:21
Eternalistjoe__: besides, why do you want xmms songs playing and frozenbubble sounds playing?04:22
johndarkhorseubotu: tell jefletcher about w32codecs04:22
LjLsomerville32: well, do try installing the "smbfs" package anyway, before mounting04:22
port7somerville32: mount -t smbfs -o username=WINDOWSUSER,password=PASSWORD,workgroup=MYGROP ////<IP or name of server//<SHARENAME>04:22
Eternalistjoe__: frozenbubble has its one music04:22
johndarkhorsejefletcher: w32codecs are illegal to distribute, read your PM04:22
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LjLsomerville32: that package's required for both smbfs and cifs04:22
port7there are lots more options but that works OK for me most times04:22
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StevmanI'm trying to mount my sata raid using dmraid, to find a raid partition on a promise fast track 378. Whats happening is dmraid is picking up two of my sata hdds that aren't on the promise, and aren't raided... Any ideas?04:22
jefletcherjohndarkhorse: ye, I see, but on the old ubuntuguide repos, it was there...04:22
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Stevmanits picking them up as pdc... that is... as being on the promise controller.04:23
joe__Eternalist: cause id want to listen to an ogg file while shooting04:23
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Stevmanand its not finding the actual raid (two other drives)04:23
Eternalistjoe__: itll get too confusing, theres two songs playing at once.04:23
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penguin42port7: I'd get two - I always find the first one has a bad sector....04:23
PokerFacePenguinValquis: oh, u probably need to do an ifconfig eth0 up04:23
PokerFacePenguinValquis: and a dhclient eth004:23
dylan_as linux grows in size and popularity, does that mean that its security will be diminished?  are we linux users living in a false paradise?04:23
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load_returnhi !04:23
joe__Eternalist: i dont know it works in windows to play a song and play a game at once...04:23
port7penguin42: true, sods law strikes when you need things most04:24
somerville32Whats the difference between smbfs and citfs?04:24
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Eternalistjoe__: okay im going to say this one more time.04:24
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johndarkhorseubotu: tell jefletcher about ubuntuguide04:24
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ValquisPokerFacePenguin: thanks, will try04:25
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Eternalistjoe__: it doesnt matter even if you got it to work, if you have 2 songs playing at once its stupid04:25
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port7smbfs = old cifs=new(er)04:25
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johndarkhorsejefletcher: ubuntuguide + breezy = broken box04:25
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Eternalistjoe__: in fact, why not just play your song in xmms, disable the sound in frozenbubble and just play04:25
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jefletcherjohndarkhorse: I have hoary I believe, but yeah, i've had some problems with ubuntuguide anyway04:25
joe__Eternalist:  not if the game is doing sound effects and the other one is doing music i dont think... but how to i change frozenbubble to alsa then04:25
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Eternalistjoe__: the game plays both by default, i dont know how to change that04:26
Eternalistjoe__: you get the music and sound effects.04:26
load_returnwhat is the command in terminal for  xorg.conf ?04:26
Eternalistfor me alsa works, i made my own asound.conf04:26
Eternalisti hear the ubuntu jungle sounds when im clicking around and i have a song playing/04:26
penguin42load_return: 'for'? it is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:26
jefletcherjohndarkhorse: is there a command for to update to breezy via terminal? like with gnome etc?04:26
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somerville32How do I make something mout everytime I boot?04:27
penguin42somerville32: Add it to /etc/fstab04:27
somerville32No gui?04:27
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msg43HI04:27
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msg43I have abig problem04:27
penguin42somerville32: Erm there might be - I just dont know it04:27
Stevmananyone know anything about dmraid?04:27
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Eternalistsomerville32: why do you need it?04:27
penguin42msg43: Tell us about it04:27
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Eternalistsomerville32: just set the options to auto in /etc/fstab04:27
msg43when I load up xorg I get -bash: no job control in this shelll04:27
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msg43I mean when I login into bash04:27
msg43and x won't start :(04:28
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joe__Eternalist: it doesnt let me change sound in the game...04:28
penguin42msg43: So when you login, you mean a text console login? Is that the only error?04:28
Eternalistjoe__: tap the spacebar when the sound option is highlighted, this turns off sound in the game04:28
msg43so when I log in to bash I get -bash no job control in this shell04:28
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worthawholebeansomerville32: try apt-cache search fstab04:28
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Eternalistjoe__: im sure you can live without those bouncy noises and shit04:28
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msg43penguin42, yes when I login into tthe text console and I believe so just some disclaimers04:28
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msg43about the software in ubuntu being free etc....04:29
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Eternalistmsg43: thats the motd.04:29
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penguin42msg43: Hmm - ignore the job control bit for a minute, what happens if you try and start X with     startx04:29
somerville32worthawholesbean: Thank you :D04:29
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joe__Eternalist:  but the developers had the bouncy noises in mind when they made it :(04:29
msg43Eternalist, ok but -bash: no job control is probably not a thing04:29
msg43penguin42, I tried that and I get a half white screen04:29
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Eternalistmsg43: xorgconfig04:29
Eternalistfollow the steps and make sure you know your hardware04:29
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joe__Eternalist: and it isnt letting me do fullscreen either04:30
Eternalistjoe__: lol i dont know man, search google or something04:30
msg43Eternalist, I dunno the refresh rates04:30
Eternalistmsg43: you dont have the manual for your monitor?04:30
somerville32Configuring my network interface at boot takes a really long time04:30
Eternalistmsg43: you can also try searching online04:30
somerville32Is there any settings that I can tweak so that it is faster?04:30
msg43Eternalist, I don't think let me check it my cousins computer04:30
msg43and then when I try dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server it says the package aint installed04:30
penguin42msg43: What's the monitor and what res are you running it at before?04:30
msg43I think this happened after I installed devel tools04:31
Eternalistsomerville32: why is that? write a script to execute this, ifconfig eth0 up yourip netmask 255.255.255.004:31
msg43penguin42, not sure it a laptop not mine that why I don't have handful of information04:31
msg43let look in the manual I was given04:31
Eternalistthen , route add default gw ipofgatewayorrouter04:31
penguin42msg43: They've split xserver-xorg up into bits - try a reconfig of xserver-xorg-core04:31
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LjLmsg43: the main package is called xserver-xorg, not xorg-server04:32
EternalistLjL: dammit i was about to say that lol04:32
sonsnixhey guys, does someone have some experience getting the SPDIF-out working?04:32
msg43LjL, thanks I just relized that04:32
LjL:)04:32
msg43:blush:04:32
Kratosconfigure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.04:32
KratosHelp04:32
penguin42LjL: On my machine that is marked as dummy04:32
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Eternalistsomerville32: does it slow down at the dhcp part?04:33
sonsnixI really need help get it going04:33
LjLPenguin42: perhaps, but a dpkg-reconfigure of it does do things04:33
somerville32Eternalist: Yes04:33
sonsnixit's an IEC958 on an ATI-IXP04:33
Eternalistyea broadcasting is the bottleneck then04:33
Eternalistare you on a wireless network or something?04:33
msg43dam I duno the video memory04:33
msg43fuck04:33
LjLpenguin42: specifically, it gives you the whole debian-like parade of configuration dialogs04:33
somerville32Eternalist: Nope, wired04:33
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somerville32Eternalist: I'm using XP's ICS04:33
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mintywalkerhiya, been following the kernel compile howto at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto04:34
Eternalistyou connect to another PC as a gateway?04:34
Kratosmsg43: Do you have onboard video?04:34
LjLmsg43: i don't know what you're doing, but leaving it empty often works04:34
mintywalkerit all worked fine, and installed04:34
penguin42LjL: Ah good - they normally do the trick :-)04:34
mintywalkerbut when I boot I get04:34
somerville32Eternalist: Correct04:34
Eternalistlol well i cant make it any faster, its better if your directly connected and the Xp computer connects through you04:34
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Kratosmsg43: Like LjL said, leave it empty04:34
msg43yeah it on board04:34
mintywalkerkernel panic : not syncing : VFS : unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)04:34
mintywalkerany ideas?04:34
somerville32Eternalist: Well, why is it taking so long for the dhcp server to respond? Could it be my settings?04:34
Eternalistsomerville32: if you have to connect thru a windows machine first, itll be slow no matter what you do on linux04:34
mintywalkerI grabed the linux-source with apt-get04:34
mintywalkercp /boot/config... .config04:35
Eternalistsomerville32: nothing to do with linux, its how fast windows xp can distrubute the ip to your computer04:35
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mintywalkerand ran make oldconfig04:35
penguin42mintywalker: That looks like you've not passed the root filesystem as a parameter on the boot line04:35
Eternalistsomerville32: check the ICS settings04:35
Eternalistsomerville32: im not familiar with that aspect though so04:35
Stevmandmraid is not picking up sda, or sdb (which are raided).... help!?04:35
somerville32Eternalsit: Why is it only slow with linux though?04:35
KratosAnyway04:35
KratosI'm still waiting for my answer04:35
mintywalkerkernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12mjw-01 root=/dev/hda3 ro04:35
Eternalistsomerville32: why does another xp computer go thru fine?04:35
msg43ok now what should I do?04:35
msg43startx or /etc/init.d/gdm start?04:36
Eternalisthow long does it take for DHCP to finally say OK04:36
mintywalkerwhich is the same as the original kernel entry, other than the exact name of vmlinuz differs04:36
penguin42mintywalker: Hmm that looks right04:36
somerville32Eternalist: Sometimes it doesn't respond and the dhcp server goes to sleep04:36
kandoorahi all, i'd like to know how many of you use a full-linux box04:36
LjLmsg43: always /etc/init.d/gdm start04:36
kandoorawith no windows04:36
somerville32Eternalist: Sometimes it picks it up right away04:36
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LjLmsg43: or restart -- never use startx, in any case04:36
mintywalkerthe only difference I can see is that the original kernel has a initrd entry04:36
mintywalkerthe new kernel does not04:36
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Eternalistsomerville32: well then its best to just leave it04:36
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jefletcherdoes anyone know a good NewsGroups client for Linux?04:37
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Eternalistsomerville32: id still recommend having all other pcs connect to the linux machine first04:37
penguin42LjL: I'm curious why you recommend against startx?04:37
Eternalistand having the linux machine directly connected to the internet04:37
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LjLkandoora: it's not the box i'm using right now (which does have windows currently installed), but my debian server is definitely 100% linux04:37
Eternalistitd make a good gateway, blocks all the viruses04:37
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msg43oh geez gdm won't start04:37
msg43it says it failed04:37
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Eternalistmsg43: whats the exact error..04:37
msg43it happens when ever I install devel tools04:37
msg43Eternalist, nothin really it says starting Gnome display manager failed thats all04:38
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LjLpenguin42: nothing specifically bad with it (i.e. it shouldn't screw up your system in any way, AFAIK), it's just that it's legacy. /etc/init.d/[g|k] dm start is the way it's supposed to be done04:38
Eternalistmsg43: check the log then04:38
kandoorais there an IM that supports voice04:38
msg43Eternalist, were that located? startx works :)04:38
penguin42LjL: Fair enough04:38
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Eternalistmsg43: and judging by your name, im guessing you cant wait for PS3 either04:38
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apokryphoskandoora: skype is very good04:38
mintywalkeris there some parameter i need to pass to make-kpkg ?04:38
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Eternalistmsg43: /var/log/gdm or something similar04:38
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Eternalistmsg43: all logs are kept in /var/log/04:38
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msg43Eternalist, no my names stand for Matthew Steven G(last name)04:39
Wibble-hi - I've just installed ubuntu and I'm having some problems getting my modem driver (provided by intel - not in kernel) compiled.  It says it can't find /lib/modules/<kernel>/build when its looking for autoconf.h - this file is in the kernel headers directory.  What should I apt-get ?04:39
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Eternalistmsg43: lol nvm then04:39
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Eternalistmsg43: i thought you mispelled MGS4 or something and just logged in.04:39
johndarkhorseWibble-: linux-source04:39
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Wibble-eurgh :/ k...04:39
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Wibble-thats not provided on the CD is it...04:40
kandooraapokryphos: yeah, but then you can't communicate (voice) with msn or yahoo or google users, can you?04:40
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penguin42If a bug is marked as NEEDSINFO - am I just supposed to comment or am I supposed to change the state somehow?04:40
msg43dam there no log in /var/log/gdm04:40
kandooraapokryphos: i know that gaim is intending to produce voice and camera, but god knows when04:41
msg43I deleted them04:41
apokryphoskandoora: skype is a different protocol, yes04:41
LjLWibble-: before you go and compile the kernel, are you *sure* there isn't a binary driver for your modem somewhere in ubuntu? what is your modem called precisely?04:41
msg43then tried /etc/init.d/gdm start04:41
msg43but no logs came back :(04:41
apokryphospenguin42: it means you need to provide more info; the person assigned the bug probably mentioned what info they need04:41
Wibble-LjL: no I'm not sure ... its an intel 536EP04:41
msg43ahh it says gdm is alreadying running when I do sudo gdm04:41
can-o-wormsdoes anyone have the synapics touchpad thing working in 5.1004:42
msg43can-o-worms, I have a touch pad04:42
msg43I dunno if it synapic how can I find out?04:42
LjLWibble-: well i don't think it's supported. and i don't think linux-source is on the CD04:42
can-o-wormsmsg43: do you have any issues with tapping?04:42
penguin42apokryphos: Yes but if I add the comment providing info do I have to do anything else to change the state so they notice I have provided that info?04:43
msg43can-o-worms, sometimes like it is very sensative when going though menus04:43
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Wibble-*curses* I have to download it over a modem then!!! ... lol04:43
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apokryphospenguin42: generally no -- they should pick up on it if you add a response; no harm in marking it as unresolved though04:43
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kandoorai installed ubuntu several times and uninstalled it, there are things that make me go back to windows (yechhh!!!!). stuff like msn (for voice comm with other msn users)04:44
LjLWibble-: it's 40MB04:44
penguin42apokryphos: OK, look at 8907 - how would I mark it unresolved - you see I added the comment about breezy before what looks like an auto comment was added?04:44
kandooracan someone give  a push so that i install ubuntu for the last time and never uninstall it04:44
Wibble-LjL: I prefer to measure it in days-to-download - then its only 704:45
msg43ok04:45
msg43how can I have ubuntu autodetect my xorg settings04:45
port7kandoora: the voices say 'install ubuntu'04:45
msg43I have nvida card04:45
can-o-wormsmsg43: does cat /proc/bus/input/devices list anything about ALPS?04:45
penguin42kandoora: Yeh sure, we'll send the guys round with the guns and torture devices next time you decide to uninstall04:45
LjLWibble-: heh... well why don't you just get a real hardware modem? *if* you can find one, it should be very cheap04:45
msg43can-o-worms, Idunno I'm kinda busy cause this is my cousin laptop and i need to get xorg working again04:45
msg43I'll check htough04:46
penguin42msg43: First law of computing: Never offer to fix a relatives computer04:46
Astxistpenguin42, amen04:46
msg43can-o-worms, yes it does04:46
msg43penguin42, why?04:46
dr_willisNever even LET them know you can fix them04:46
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Wibble-I have one of them on my main box - external - but I got a second box free with that modem in it04:46
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penguin42msg43: Because you'll be fixing it for ever more and get calls at unearthly hours.....04:46
Astxistdr_willis, heh that oo04:47
LjLWibble-: main box has linux too?04:47
msg43well anyways04:47
Wibble-yeah04:47
Astxistthough I'm a little late on that one04:47
kandooraanother thing woudl be, when for example inkscape (or any other software for that matter) comes up with a new version or build, it takes ages until it shows in synaptic, where as the latest version is already there for windows. is there any solution to that?04:47
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msg43how can I have xorg configure automatically like when I installed the nvida drivers04:47
dr_willisor fix them and whipe out all their settings04:47
Wibble-this one was gonna be a mythbox (but I don't have a network cable atm!)04:47
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Stevmanyo.... dmraid is not picking up sda or sdb (which are raided on my promise 378), and its interpreteing a single raid of each of sdc and sdd.... any ideas?04:47
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jsubl2msg43, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia04:48
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can-o-wormsmsg43: what did you do to X to make it not work?04:48
apokryphospenguin42: that's fine -- if I were you I'd just add a note to reiterate that you did indeed test it. The dev might not have picked up on your message exactly04:48
penguin42kandoora: Someone has to package it and check it is ok; thats why it takes a while to show up - the advantage of a distro like ubuntu is that people have done the work to check that the packages work together; you are of course to go and get a source and build it04:48
msg43can-o-worms, well I installed devel tools to compile a few programs x stop working so I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:48
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msg43now it works but supertux and those apps give me a segment fault04:49
penguin42apokryphos: Yeh OK will do - unfortunately there comment is to mail kernel-team - which I did, but its actually moderated so is presumably in a big pile of mail waiting to be moderated04:49
eternalistk does anyone know why if i change to anothe rworkspace BMP pauses?04:49
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Wibble-Is there a way to download packages + their dependancies-that-aren't-on-the-CD from a non-ubuntu box which can then be installed on a non-net connected box? (second bit is easy I guess - first bit is just to work out dependencies not on the CD)04:49
can-o-wormsmsg43: so X works?04:49
apokryphospenguin42: nevermind; they should get 'round to it eventually04:49
msg43can-o-worms, yeah but I get segment faults04:49
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akaGoddoes anyone know how to tell sylpheed-claws to only monitor certain folders (using IMAP) ?04:50
LjLWibble-: it appears that sl-modem could in theory support your modem as well. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28027.html shows that you may have to scratch your head for some time. a tutorial can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com//IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto , though it's not for breezy04:50
msg43I need ubuntu to reconfigure my xorg file automatically cause I'm not knoweldge able on nvidia driver and the hardware specs of this laptop04:50
tuxxxbladeubotu,04:50
can-o-wormsmsg43: from other shit, your X is working04:50
ubotutuxxxblade: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?04:50
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tuxxxbladeubotu, tell me how to install wine04:50
tuxxxbladelol04:50
netzmeisterhello04:50
penguin42apokryphos: Thanks04:50
Wibble-LjL: great - I'll have a look at that - thanks04:50
johndarkhorsecan-o-worms: let's watch our language in here, please04:50
netzmeisteri have a problem with my GF680004:50
msg43can-o-worms, yeah it works04:50
netzmeisterI cannot load the nvidia.ko Module04:50
tuxxxbladedamit need hhelp04:51
can-o-wormsso is no one using a laptop with a synaptics touchpad?04:51
tuxxxbladehow do install wine?04:51
netzmeisterMessage: No device found04:51
can-o-wormsjohndarkhorse: i was watching04:51
LjL!tell tuxxxblade about wine04:51
tuxxxbladety:)04:51
msg43does anyone know how to reconfgiure xorg config file automatically????04:51
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dell500anyone here use yamipod?04:52
LjLtuxxxblade: i think there are repositories with the most recent wine compiled for ubuntu, somewhere04:52
apokryphosmsg43: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:52
msg43can-o-worms, does you touchpad have scroll whell04:52
msg43apokryphos, that manual though04:52
eternalistDoes anyone know the equivalent of gxmms but for BMP?04:53
LjLtuxxxblade: though !wine would have told you about them, but apparently it doesn't (any more?)04:53
apokryphosmsg43: it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:53
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eternalistgxmms doesnt support bmp fully..04:53
msg43apokryphos, I think I get it I did sudo nvidia-glx-config enable I forgot about it04:53
msg43I don't use ubuntu for myself04:53
tuxxxbladeactually i tryed to install it and some win32 codecs but it dosent work04:53
netzmeister!tell netzmeister about nvidia04:53
julleei whant to install ubuntu on my computer, i have .mp3 on one of my partitions, the partition filesystem is ntfs and i have heard that linux do not support ntfs04:54
msg43ahh it looks a lot more better now04:54
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LjLtuxxxblade: what doesn't work?04:54
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apokryphosmsg43: that's something quite different, but part of reconfiguration, yes.04:54
can-o-wormsmsg43: you don't need to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg because you don't have a problem with X not working04:54
LjLjullee: it supports NTFS, but read-only04:54
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msg43can-o-worms, I got it IT hink04:54
penguin42WHy doesn't bugzilla have a field for version anyway?04:54
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msg43xorg wasn't setup correctly for nvidia04:54
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msg43and I don't have a nvidia04:54
julleeLjL: Okey, someone know how i can convert it to fat32 and not lose any data?04:55
apokryphosmsg43: do the first command I said04:55
msg43apokryphos, nah I got it now04:55
tuxxxbladei dunno lol04:55
msg43can-o-worms, you around?04:55
LjLjullee: i'm not sure you can do that, even though you can do the opposite.04:55
can-o-wormsmsg43: if you install the nvidia drivers then you have to change the driver from "nv" to "nvidia"04:55
tuxxxbladei did what them help files say but ..04:55
msg43can-o-worms, ahh that was the problem04:55
tuxxxbladei dunno if the patch is applied even as root04:55
msg43can-o-worms, anways to the touchpad04:55
msg43does your touch pad ahve a scroll wheel04:56
LjLtuxxxblade: i'm not following you. watch patch? what help files? what are you trying to do? why do you need wine?04:56
can-o-wormsmsg43: yeah, but it's cool man, i have to get some sleep, and i need to talk to someone who has it working04:56
msg43can-o-worms, please how did you get it working04:57
msg43what did your add to xorg.conf04:57
ompaul!tell msg43 about nvidia04:57
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msg43ompaul, I don't need dam nvida04:57
ompaulmsg43 read what the bot tells ya04:57
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msg43and need a scroll wheel04:57
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msg43I fixed nvidia04:57
tuxxxbladei wanna run some windows progs04:58
Eternalistubotu: help04:58
Eternalistubotu04:58
tuxxxbladen games04:58
can-o-wormsmsg43: i haven't gotten it working despite messing with a whole bunch of stuff, and now i am wondering if there is even support for it in the kernel04:58
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penguin42tuxxxblade: Then you need wine - it sometimes lets you run windows progs04:58
msg43can-o-worms, I found I guide04:58
msg43it a ubuntu one a beleive want a link?04:58
LjLtuxxxblade: ok. what goes wrong when you "aptitude install wine"? or, what goes wrong when you launch a windows program?04:58
LjLPenguin42: he knows04:58
can-o-wormsmsg43: sure, i may have already read it though04:59
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somerville32How do I make linux more secure then windows?04:59
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msg43can-o-worms, join msg43 so I can just copy and past it04:59
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tuxxxbladeafk04:59
Eternalistpenguin42: you can actually run CS Source now :)04:59
tuxxxbladeactually i think i made it04:59
msg43 I mean /join #msg4304:59
LjLtuxxxblade: also, please type my nickname when you're talking to me, otherwise i might easily miss your messages04:59
penguin42Eternalist: ?04:59
tuxxxbladethanks to the repository04:59
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tuxxxbladeLjL sry04:59
tuxxxbladeLjL, thnx a lot04:59
tuxxxbladeim afk04:59
LjLnp -- next time check the repositories *first*! ;) they have just about anything05:00
GMachine_24I have tried to install java on ubuntu hoary and followed the instructions to install and create a virtual link to the mozilla/plugins folder and also mozilla-firefox/plugins folder and made sure Java was enabled in the firefox browser but still java is not recognized.05:00
penguin42somerville32: Well you need to make sure you've got a good firewall, only run the services you need to and still be careful to make sure you keep things upto date05:00
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sambagirlwhat means a cpu overload?05:00
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sabmannlol05:00
sabmannit means something in winxp05:00
sabmanni dunno05:01
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sneakycan someone help me each time i want to play a dvd my screen is getting fuckt up05:01
sambagirlwhat means a cpu overload?05:01
Eternalistsomerville32: linux is already more secure than windows05:01
sabmanndload the right codecs05:01
sambagirlwinxp?05:01
sneakywhere?05:01
Eternalistsomerville32: only root can access ports 1024 and below05:01
sabmannlol05:01
netzmeisterError inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile/nvidia.ko) No such device05:01
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netzmeisterWhats wrong?05:01
Eternalistsomerville32: i dont run a firewall, i dont think a lot of peopele to, its fine how it is05:01
deFrysksambagirl, thats a truck with a too heavy load of cpu's05:02
sabmannlol05:02
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sambagirljolly joker05:02
sambagirlis not funny05:02
sneakycan some help me each time i play a dvd my screen get fucked up,05:02
sambagirlnot funny at all.05:02
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penguin42Eternalist: Oooh that's a dangerous comment - there are lots of ports open often by default unless you are very very careful05:03
sabmanncpu overload: your processor unit gets to many requests by your runnig apps it gets f*cked up05:03
netzmeisterError inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile/nvidia.ko) No such device05:03
netzmeister:-(05:03
sabmannget ati....05:03
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sabmann... that doesn't support composite :(05:04
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n0dlHow would i change my main log in name in ubuntu? (i want to make a new account then delete the one i started out with)05:04
jefletcherrofl, how do i switch to window 11 in irssi?05:04
mezig#quit05:04
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johndarkhorsejefletcher: alt-q05:04
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LjLwhat is mplayer-custom?05:05
johndarkhorsejefletcher: or /window 1105:05
jefletcherjohndarkhorse: thx05:05
benoyhi everyone.  Has anyone had any problems with starting Evolution after upgrading to breezy.  Right now I am having this problem.  I get the message "Details: Failed to execute child process "evolution-2.2" (No such file or directory)" whenever I try to run Evolution.  Any suggestions?05:06
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tetsueohi guys05:06
benoyEvolution used to work before i upgraded to breezy05:06
tuxxxbladedam gtg cya later guys thnx05:06
tetsueoi've only just installed ubuntu an hour ago...cant get these damn nvidia drivers to work though05:07
penguin42benoy: So the interesting is that breezy has 2.4 evolution - not 2.205:07
sabmannthere is a wiki page about nvidia cards i suppose05:07
benoypenguin42:  oh how do I fix that?05:07
EternalistOkay, i added the voluem control applet and it doesnt show up05:07
Eternalistits just taking invisible space05:07
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penguin42benoy: Don't know05:08
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somerville32Wow!05:08
somerville32Wine is really powerful05:08
LjLguys, *what* graphics cards are just supported out of the box? seems people are having all sorts of trouble with *both* ati and nvidia cards... what is it that i'm missing? (not that i've never been very knowledgeable about graphics cards)05:08
benoyoh05:08
deFryskLjL, are you a gamer ?05:09
johndarkhorseLjL: my nvidia and ati cards on my macs are supported just fine05:09
EternalistCan anyoine help!?05:09
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johndarkhorseubotu: tell tetsueo about nvidea05:09
johndarkhorseubotu: tell tetsueo about nvidia05:09
johndarkhorseubotu: tell me how to spell05:09
penguin42LjL: Welcome to the hell of commercial drivers (not that the free ones are any better)05:10
sabmannmy ati 9600 xt is also supported... but ati drivers doesnt support compiste:(05:10
LjLdeFrysk: no, i'm not, but i've got a very unsupported -- and broken, too -- graphics card (Kyro II chipset) that i'm going to change with something cheap. but i'd like to get something that works *well* with linux (and ubuntu), 3D acceleration included, even though i rarely try games05:10
kapputuwhere do I ask questions about Cisco vpn clients? I get a message "Peer Platform type" not allowed when I connect to my office network05:10
ClayGanyone know how to change the default terminal size in gnome?05:10
sabmannnvidia has better linux support than ati05:10
benoycan anyone help me with an Evolution problem?05:10
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sabmannnvidea has more "updated" drivers than ati05:11
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deFryskLjL, most cards work fine on linux when there is no accelaration used05:11
sabmannyep05:11
somerville32Can I install the latest version of wine from their website?05:11
EternalistCAN ANYONE HLEP05:11
jsubl2LjL, depends on what you call cheap.. the nvidia gf5200 can be found under $50 usd.  mine works good05:11
johndarkhorsebenoy: have you been to help.ubuntu.com or www.ubuntuforums.org?05:11
LjLsabmann, penguin42: so there's no chance to make a modern graphics card work well with only open-source drivers, possibly standard ubuntu ones?05:11
Eternalistvolume control applet is taking up invisible space05:11
Eternalistits not showing up05:11
somerville32Or should I wait for a ubuntu package?05:11
Eternalisteven after refreshing the gnome-panel05:11
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barongasHow do I get my diskette drive going? It checks for system disks on boot so it's working but I don't know where to find it in ubuntu.05:12
johndarkhorseEternalist: please, dont Cap us into helping (i'll end up telling you how to bake an apple crumble)05:12
penguin42LjL: Not with 3D as far as I know; I have a Radeon 7200 that is an old ATI by todays standards and that uses the free drivers to do 3d, but it is a bit flaky for 3d05:12
benoyI have tried those and am waiting for a reply05:12
LjLjsubl2: i call 30 cheap, there is an ATI at that price at a store i know. i really don't care much about the *card's* performance, i just care about linux being *able* to reach the card's performance, if you know what i mean05:12
Eternalistwell god forbid you guys stop talking about todays stance on video cards05:12
Eternalistwho gives a shit05:12
benoyhoping to solve this as soon as possible05:12
Eternalistif you want to play games and you need 3d acceleration05:12
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Eternalistgo on windows05:12
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Eternalistdont bitch on here about ati not releasing details so that open source devs can properly write the drivers05:12
LjLEternalist: sounds like a constructive suggestion05:12
Eternalistbecause obviously they cant05:12
ClayGLol Eternalist you expected help here?05:13
jsubl2LjL, alot of folks have trouble with the ati drivers i hear..05:13
Eternalistjsubl2: yes im one of them05:13
Eternalistradeon 955005:13
sabmannme too05:13
ClayGThere is a guy but I think he is away for the weeknd05:13
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Eternalistim using the default radeon driver, who cares, i can see and theres a display05:13
Eternalistthats all i care about05:13
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LjLjsubl2: yeah, i hear that too. that's why i thought i should probably get a similarly priced nVidia-based card... but then, people seem to be having trouble with nVidia as well?!05:13
johndarkhorseEternalist: if nobody knows the answer to your question, do you want us to make something up?05:13
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LjLEternalist: I'm using VESA, so what05:13
Eternalistjohndarkhorse: no i want you to tell me that you dont know05:13
sabmannradeon 9600xt... great card but I really would like compiste support05:14
Eternalistjohndarkhorse: instead of ignoring my questions05:14
ClayGJohn it would be nice to tell him you dont know instead of him sitting here thinking no one is hearing him05:14
jsubl2LjL, maybe with older nvidia. dunno about nvidia troubles05:14
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dell500sabmann, i have the same card :)05:14
taalaintalleriI cannot install drivers ATI Radeon X300 /ubuntu breezer05:14
LjLEternalist: doesn't mean i should ask as to what i should buy to get the best graphics support05:14
johndarkhorsejohns^: 600+ users telling you they dont know creates quite a flood05:14
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EternalistLjL: all im saying is, its not a big deal, get a nvidia chip, supposedly those are supported well05:14
sabmanndell500, great card... for games on winxp:(05:14
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Eternalistgreat now all my windows on the taskbar are bunched to one side because volume control is somewhere there andi cant see it.05:15
Eternalistthis is bullshit05:15
dell500sabmann, i got 3d accel to work though on ubuntu05:15
_jasonEternalist, go to a new workspace with no windows and edit your panel there05:15
dell500sabmann, after lots of turmoil and fustration05:15
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deFryskEternalist, drag and drop them to a proper place on the panel (use rightklick the icons)05:16
LjLPenguin42: the 30 card i was talking about is an ATI Radeon 7000, so i suppose it's even older than the one you were talking about?05:16
jsubl2LjL, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681413312705:16
kapputuI use vpn client 4.0.3 from Windows to connect to work and I could only get 4.0.5 for Linux - I get a Peer Platform Type or Version not allowed error05:16
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EternalistdeFrysk: thanks i think that did the trick05:17
deFryskEternalist, yw ;)05:17
LjLjsubl2: so whatever has an "FX5200" chipset should work decently?05:17
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jsubl2LjL, it is exactly what i have.. and drivers install flawlessly using synaptic05:17
deFryskLjL, most cheap nvidia videocards use that05:18
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penguin42LjL: The 7000 should work out of the box - and 3D seems to work on breezy better than hoary; but the issue that is still an open bug about freezes on 3d sometimes - but I've not seen it so far in breezy05:18
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LjLdeFrysk, jsubl2: i see, so i think i'll hunt for a card with that chipset05:18
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jsubl2DeFi, so would you recommend the card since you also have one05:18
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jsubl2DeFrysk  so would you recommend the card since you also have one05:19
gfxstylerwhatever you choose, my personal opinion is: never choose ati when you have linux05:19
deFryskthe old nvidiatnt2 cards no longer work with acceleration unfortunately05:19
LjLPenguin42, deFrysk, jsubl2: well, so, given a Radeon 7000 and an FX5200, what would you all advice, this time on grounds of *both* linux compatibility *and* raw card performance?05:19
jsubl2LjL, you should be able to find some good buys on it.. it uses the nvidia-glx driver05:19
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deFryskLjL, I dont advise, i share my good exeriences with nvidia05:20
penguin42LjL: Well I dunno - I've only had the 7200 - its certainly old, so it will hardly be fast by todays standards - 7200 seems fast enough for tux racer though :-)05:20
gfxstylerLjL: take the fx520005:20
ClayGNo one knows how to change the default terminal size in Gnome? I'd like it to be smaller without having to manually change it every time05:20
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LjLthe only thing i'm a bit worried about is the binary drivers... history teaches me that cards that only have binary drivers risk becoming unsupported in few years05:20
tetsueook i think i got the driver to install :)05:20
barongasAnyone have their 3.5" Floppies working under ubuntu?05:20
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jsubl2ClayG, right click in the terminal and edit your profile05:21
deFryskClayG, system>settings>screenresolution05:21
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gfxstylerLjL: the opensource ati drivers are bad05:21
LjLwhich is what happened with my Kyro II -- i have an ancient Matrox, on the other hand, that's perfectly supported (for the little it can do)05:21
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msg43HI05:21
EternalistdeFrysk: wait that didnt work, voluem control is still invisible.05:21
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msg43what is the best way to patch a ubuntu kernel?05:21
LjLgfxstyler: and there are *no* open-source drivers for *any* kind of nVidia?05:21
tetsueoif i see the nvidia splash screen at start up that means the driver has been installed correctly yes ?05:21
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ClayGtried the edit profile dont see a size option in there05:21
LjL... nvidia splash screen? oh my god05:21
penguin42LjL: If you luck at the ATI or Nvidia drivers you can see that there is quite a range of cards supported over a few years, so the chance of lack of support after say 3 or 4 years *should* be slim05:21
deFryskEternalist, insert the notification applet in the panel05:22
gfxstylerLjL: i dont know, but i dont care because a. opensource drivers would be way slower than the original ones, and b. why search for opensource drivers if the binary ones work like a charm and very fast?05:22
n0dlWill keybinds work if you lock the screen?05:22
deFryskif not there that is05:22
EternalistOH05:22
Eternalistthanks lol05:22
ClayGand screen resulotion seems to only deal with or at least there is only the option of changing the screen size05:22
ClayGno terminal options05:22
deFryskEternalist, ;p05:22
Wibble-there are open source drivers of non-accelerated kind for nvidia cards - but no accelerated05:22
_jasonClayG, you can try devilspie, it gives you a lot of options for making windows go where you want etc.05:22
n0dlanyone know?05:22
LjLgfxstyler: because of support, even though penguin says there is a good chance that support will continue. you see, for my current card, there *are* Linux binary drivers, but they're only for kernel 2.4, they don't intend to support 2.6 -- duh!05:23
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gfxstylerLjL: you have to choose between if you are a opensource freak or you want usability, which means that you actually want to use the card05:23
msg43what is the best way to patch a ubuntu kernel?05:23
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Wibble-"nv" seems to be a standard driver for X (or atleast included in all the distros)05:23
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LjLthis is exactly what i don't want to happend05:23
dell500anyone here ever use YamiPod?05:23
ClayGthanks _J I'll look into that05:23
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penguin42gfxstyler: I agree in practice you have to go with the binary ones; but it does leave you open to questions of whether you'll be able to use the driver in n-years time on some new wacky kernel05:23
n0dldoes anyone here use keybinds?05:23
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barongasWhat file format would a windows-made floppy be in?05:24
penguin42vfat05:24
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deFryskvfat yes05:24
_jasonClayG, however documentation is severely lacking.  There is a howto on the forums for the version in the repos.  The more recent version, if you decide to build it from source, is a complete rewrite though and the config files are in a different format.05:24
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gfxstylerpenguin42: well thats true but in a few years you could buy a new budget card for 30$ or something like that that has support05:24
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LjLPenguin, Wibble-: so, anyway, if support stopped for the binary drivers, there would still be the open-source (though less performant) "nv" drivers, is that correct?05:24
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Digis!java\05:24
ubotuI haven't a clue, Digis05:24
Digis!java05:24
msg43oh great xorg keeps on messing up05:24
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs05:24
msg43fuckin ubuntu05:24
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johndarkhorsemsg43: please watch your language05:24
pierro_hi05:24
gfxstylerLjL: but why should nvidia stop supporting the linux drivers?05:24
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penguin42gfxstyler: Not necessarily that will support your current motherboard; I mean I was looking at this machine - it is 4 years old and I was looking at perhaps a new card - its AGP4x max on the board and I'm not sure what will be happy with it05:24
msg43johndarkhorse, well I'm pissed to hell!05:25
barongasthanks05:25
msg43xorg keeps fing up!05:25
johndarkhorsemsg43: vulgar language helps nobodys attitude05:25
LjLgfxstyler: i have no idea, but things can change i suppose... why should PowerVR stop supporting their linux drivers? but they did05:25
penguin42gfxstyler: What happens if they were to stop supporting 32 bit say?05:25
msg43Ok who can help me05:25
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msg43I runt eh nvida configure tool05:25
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msg43when I reboot xorg just craps out again05:25
deFryskmsg43, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and run the defaults05:25
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LjLanyway, can confirm that there are open-source drivers called "nv" that work with nVidia chipset, even though they're less performant than the propertary ones?05:26
jendamsg43: Watch - your - mouth!05:26
johndarkhorsemsg43: when you run the reconfigure, choose VESA as the driver, until you can get the nvidia sorted05:26
gfxstylerLjL: but nvidia is a big company, i never heard of powervr ... i cant tell you im no wizard hehe :)05:26
deFrysk!tell msg43 about nvidia05:26
penguin42gfxstyler: Or not supporting that card on 32 bit machines?05:26
msg43johndarkhorse, it works well but as soon as a reboot hits it goes crazy again05:26
LjLgfxstyler: PowerVR made the driver for the Kyro chipset, i suppose, my card is actually a Hercules05:26
deFryskmsg43, do you happen to have an old tnt nvidia card ?05:26
msg43it happens after I installed devel tools05:26
EternalistdeFrysk: lol sorry to bother you man, but it still doesnt work.05:26
msg43deFrysk, I don't think so the laptop is pretty new05:27
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EternalistdeFrysk: its really really thin, so i have to click up and down the bar to find the volume control and i went to preferences but theres nothing about icnreasing the size05:27
LjLgfxstyler: Hercules 3D Prophet Something using a Kyro II chipset. sorry if i'm vague, i just know little about graphics cards :)05:27
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gfxstylerpenguin42: when they stop supporting 32 bit support then 32bit system will be deprecated too ... i mean who is still gonna use 32bit in the next 10 years or so?05:27
johndarkhorsemsg43: are you choosing the VESA driver?05:27
deFryskthen read ubotus message and check if your screentype is recongnized05:27
msg43johndarkhorse, no!05:27
MachineScrewbmrtin, hey05:27
msg43but it worked untill I installed devel tools to compile a program05:28
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penguin42gfxstyler: Well the machine behind me is 10 years old and is running as my firewall still; this machine is 4 years old and is still good going05:28
Eternalistmsg43: why are you compiling anything? use apt-get05:28
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deFryskEternalist, try another theme perhaps its locked due to an upgrade05:28
tcmjrAnyone know a good source of information to install ubuntu with linux ? I would be installing to a 2nd hdd where i store my music.05:28
msg43Eternalist, cause app doesn't have what i want05:28
TenPlus1will Ubuntu 5.10 install on a SATA drive ???05:28
johndarkhorsemsg43: use the VESA driver until you can get your nvidia sorted05:28
penguin42TenPlus1: Yes05:28
jsubl2TenPlus1, yes  did on mine05:28
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johndarkhorseTenPlus1: it will install on SATA05:28
gfxstylerpenguin32: a firewall does not need 3d so you could go with the opensource drivers then (which do not support 3d yet/ or badly)05:28
rebotrying to set up a XP x64 and kUbuntu triple boot,05:28
rebox64 boots by grub loading ntldr and x64 works from that, but XP doesnt05:28
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rebo1 sata drive and 1 ide drive in machine05:29
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reboall 3 oses on the sata05:29
reboany idea ?>05:29
EternalistdeFrysk: yeah i tried another theme and it worked..so whats the deal then? i cant have my other theme anymore!?05:29
jendaAnyone know the CLI command for user renaming in Linux?05:29
penguin42gfxstyler: if you are lucky - I mean what happens if the 2D drivers for the card were binary only?05:29
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msg43wel lI need to get is orted now05:29
LjLgfxstyler: well, keep in mind that i'm not a "get that new computer right now" type, quite the opposite. i've just gotten a cheap AMD Sempron, but i was using a K6-300Mhz until few months ago. i'm used to go with old hardware --- it's just that *some* old hardware stays "future-proof" (i.e. supported), some doesn't05:30
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johndarkhorserebo: edit your grubs menu.lst05:30
EternalistdeFrysk: or should i reinstall the theme, its a default one its called amaranth05:30
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reboyeah i have been playing with that all morning05:30
mdjakehello, I'd like to connect 2 ubuntu machine with ralink chipped WLAN cards05:30
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rebono combination of map's and rootnoverifys seem to work ;/05:30
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deFryskEternalist, amaranth seems to lack the icon then :(05:30
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EternalistLjL: are you my twin, i just ugraded to a sempron recently too i had a p2 300 mhz klamath05:30
EternalistdeFrysk: can i copy the icon from another theme?05:30
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nudthe support of universe for hoary has been dropped ?05:31
deFryskEternalist, try to reinstall gnome-themes-extras and see it amaranth takes then05:31
TenPlus1Is it possible to share an internet connection through a wireless card to a WinXP laptop and share files/printer also using Ubuntu on main System ???05:31
Taliesin-laptophehe, i got two P2 300 Klamaths in my server (SMP)05:31
Taliesin-laptopgood little cpu,s 512k L2 Cache each too :D05:31
MachineScrewis there a way to tell nautilus not to load a background05:31
LjLEternalist: heh ;) well actually that K6 300Mhz wasn't even mine, it was given to me by a (3d-fanatic) friend of mine out of pity -- *my* computer was a K6 233MHz, downclocked to 200MHz because of overhearing :)05:31
LjLheating05:31
reboouch05:32
gfxstylerLjL: how about a new cpu fan then :)05:32
Taliesin-laptop;)05:32
joe__what does this mean: Warning: can't initialize sound (reason: No available audio device).05:32
gfxstylerjoe__: it means that your soundcard is not found05:32
ClayGit means you have no monitor05:32
gfxstylerLOL05:32
Taliesin-laptop:P05:32
LjLgfxstyler: nah, no way that would make things better... problem was, i had run the thing without a heat dissipator for like 6 months, without noticing =)  the dissipator had detached from the processor05:32
joe__gfxstyler: but  have audio fine in xwindows05:32
mdjakeTenPlus1, I'm trying the same that you'd like to05:32
deFryskjoe__, do you have a build in soundcard but use a external soundcard ?05:33
EternalistLjL: ever try playing cs with that thing lol, did you have 64 mb ram too?05:33
gfxstylerjoe__: in windows?05:33
EternalistLjL: or an nvidia riva 12805:33
joe__deFrysk: built in05:33
deFryskjoe__, and use it too ?05:33
msg43ok05:33
gfxstylerjoe__: maybe you did not install a driver for your soundcard in linux? there are many things which work on windows and not in linux05:33
mdjakeTenPlus1, what chipset your wlan card has?05:33
jefletcheryo, my alsa mixer says all my items are [off] 05:33
jefletcherhow do i turn them on?05:33
msg43the Nvidia drivers are not working :(05:33
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LjLEternalist: i started with 16 megs of ram, but it has (i think) 192 megs when i stopped using it. graphics-cards-wide, i used Matrox cards (Mystique and Millennium) almost exclusively05:33
gfxstylermsg43: what gfx card do you have?05:33
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deFryskmsg43, is your screen recognized ?05:34
rohanhi all05:34
EternalistLjL: wow man, did you try surviving off 14 k ? haahah05:34
rohanjust installed ubuntu05:34
TenPlus1mdjake: Asus WL-138g... I have to use ndiswrapper, but it screws ubuntu up when I use card05:34
Eternalisti tried05:34
Eternalistthen i got 56k netzero free 10 hours a month, but if u keep reinstalling u keep getting the hours back :)05:34
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joe__gfxstyler:  i have a craetive labs audigy pcmia card too but it just crashes when i plug it in05:34
ClayGbtw - Changing default terminal size in gnome, looks like it takes changing , /usr/share/vte/termcap/xterm05:34
msg43gfxstyler, I dunno a laptop card :D05:34
rohannow, can someone please gimme an optimum list of packages to make my ubuntu "multimedia ready" ? no rtfm, please :)05:34
jefletcheryo, my alsa mixer says all my items are [off]  -- how do I turn them on? at the moment I have no sound so it must be this...05:34
LjLEternalist: modem, you mean? no, i had a 33.6kbps until i switched to 10mbps fiber optics (quite a change ;)05:34
msg43I can tell you when my machine reboots05:34
ClayGin it are the specs for the size it will launch05:35
gfxstylerjoe__: http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=%22creative+labs+audigy%22+%22linux+driver%22+pcmcia&spell=105:35
MarlunSince Ubuntu is based on debian, whats the difference between a clean debian installation and a ubuntu installation?05:35
msg43gfxstyler, it worked before I installed devel tools05:35
MachineScrewis there a way to tell nautilus not to load a background05:35
johndarkhorseubotu: tell rohan about multimedia05:35
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rohanMarlun: lots. ubuntu is not even binary compatible with debian.05:35
gfxstylermsg43: just because you install the devel tools you cant crash your system05:35
rohanjohndarkhorse: lol, that was rtfm :D05:35
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LjLMarlun: ubuntu is *based* on debian, which specifically means that the sources are synched with debian's every 6 months, but then they get modified by the Ubuntu team as they feel like. also, there are packages in Ubuntu that aren't in Debianb05:35
gfxstylerrohan: its not?05:36
msg43gfxstyler, well it screws up nvidia05:36
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gfxstylermsg43: whats happening then? x does not start up?05:36
rohangfxstyler: iirc, yes. its not.05:36
Eternalistrohan: get xine-ui and beep-media-player05:36
Eternalistthere you go05:36
rohanpardon if i am wrong :)05:36
rohanEternalist: lol ... ty :)05:36
mdjakeTenPlus1, mine is MSI cb54g2 and MSI pc54g205:36
gfxstylerrohan: i always thought it did when using warty (now using breezy, i dont know)05:36
johndarkhorserohan is correct, ubuntu is based on debian SOURCE, and is not binary compatible05:36
mdjakeTenPlus1, both are rt2500 chipsetted05:36
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msg43gfxstyler, it looks like xorg trys to start I see the nvidia screen for a few secs and then it says it can't start xorg and dumps me in to terminal05:36
Marlunrohan, LjL: okey, thanks :)05:36
johndarkhorsegfxstyler: warty was the closest ubuntu to debian there was05:37
mdjakeTenPlus1, but unfortunately rt2x00 doesn't support Access Point mode05:37
gfxstylermsg43: so you changed the xorg.conf already? whats the error output?05:37
msg43I think I ahve a GeForce 4 4200 Go 32M05:37
TenPlus1mdjake: I'm trying to use ad-hoc only ???05:37
msg43gfxstyler, well I used the nvidia auto tool05:37
rohangfxstyler: warty may have been, but breezy is not. :)05:37
mdjakeTenPlus1, however I was said that connection sharing can be done (here on ubuntu irc)05:37
gfxstylermsg43: what error does X complain about then?05:38
MachineScrewis there a way to tell nautilus not to load a background05:38
rohangfxstyler: atleast not with sarge ;)05:38
msg43oh great now dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is freezing05:38
msg43I hate ubuntu!!!!05:38
mdjakeTenPlus1, how do you use ad-hoc?05:38
rohanlol, some people say that debian is not binary compatible with itself.05:38
reboaha05:38
LjLEternalist: oh, by the way, i would probably still be using my trusted (and very sharp!) Matrox, if AGP 1x or whatever was supported on this motherboard =) it was actually a bad surprise when i discovered that the AGP slot wasn't backwards compatible..05:38
gfxstylerMachineScrew: you can remove a background the same like you choose it05:38
rohanmsg43: lol, try another distro. mepis.05:38
TenPlus1mdjake: on my WinXP system, both computers are setup as Ad-Hoc (pc to pc) only... the main computer is sharing the internet and files to the laptop...05:38
TenPlus1I want to be able to use ubuntu to do the same...05:38
gfxstylermsg43: well i use it on my two computers, one ati and one nvidia, works like a charm05:39
msg43rohan, mepis sucks drives me nutty05:39
EternalistLjL: lol05:39
msg43gfxstyler, do you have any devel tools isntalled05:39
reboall linux distros suffer from the fact that their windows managers suck:(05:39
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EternalistLjL: minewas onboard, like i said, riva 12805:39
gfxstylermsg43: im developing myself so yes i have a lot installed05:39
rohanmsg43: lol, then try a non debian distro.05:39
mdjakeTenPlus1, looks like your and my card will work only in ad-hoc for a while05:39
msg43then why doesn't it work05:39
TenPlus1mdjake: why does it only work fo a while ?05:39
runge-hi. I am new to ubuntu and especialy usb wlan. can anybody tell me where to start (want to install wlan with usb adapter from TOPCOM)05:39
mdjakeI'm here to ask about ad-hoc connecting too05:39
rohanwhy is multiverse disabled in breezy by default ?05:39
gfxstylermsg43: as i said, could you copy&paste the error X complains about?05:40
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LjLEternalist: yeah, well, i never had a motherboard with an on-board gfx card... this one i've gotten now doesn't have one, either -- i could get one that did, but this one on the other hand had many (5) PCI slots, 3 (instead of 2) RAM slots, and things like that05:40
mdjakeTenPlus1, needs further kernel development of some IEEE stack as I understand05:40
TenPlus1will this be on mandrake when it's released ?05:40
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mdjakeTenPlus1, but ad-hoc work for some guys here05:40
gfxstylerrohan: because it was disabled in warty and breezy too :) i think multi/universe are not entirely free software05:40
raingrovehello guys..05:40
msg43gfxstyler, ok can you help me one on one05:40
jefletcheryo, my alsa mixer says all my items are [off]  -- how do I turn them on? at the moment I have no sound so it must be this...05:40
mdjakeThe guy callled P...something I don't remember05:40
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msg43I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:41
msg43gfxstyler, maybe you can be so kind an pm me?05:41
raingrovecan anyone help me with setting up knotify to make sounds without Arts? (I am trying to get my kopete make notification sounds in Xfce4)05:41
MachineScrewgfxstyler, no I want to use E17s background05:41
LjLEternalist: it does have a built-in soundcard, and i'm using that one, unfortunately, as my *very* loved SB AWE64 can't work off a PCI slot... ;)05:41
mdjakeTenPlus1, he told me he shares his connection through wlan with Ubuntu05:41
rohangfxstyler: no, atleast multiverse was mentioned it warty and hoary. in breezy, its not even mentiones.05:41
gfxstylerjefletcher: if you run alsamixer in the console and press M on each setting, the [off]  or [mute]  should go away05:41
mdjakeTenPlus1, unfortunatley he is not here now :(05:41
msg43gfxstyler, can you go step by step with me?05:42
TenPlus1mdjake; I will wait until drake is developed more and maybe use that... but I do like Ubuntu a lot05:42
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penguin42raingrove: In the end Arts is what KDE is designed to use - but I think you could run Arts without the rest of KDE05:43
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rohangfxstyler, msg43 : join #msg43-problem .. so you both can hear and see each other clearly XD05:43
jendaHow do I enable root quickly in Ubuntu?05:43
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gfxstylermsg43: i guess the ubuntu wiki has a pretty good documentation about how to setup nvidia 3d acceleration (thats how i did it)05:43
Xenguyjenda: sudo -i05:43
mdjakeTenPlus1, problem is more general than distro specific - current Linux kernels doesn't give support for master mode - only Prism2/3 chipsetted cards can do that with an app called HostAP05:43
gfxstylerjenda: sure you want to do it?05:44
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gfxstylerjenda: sudo passwd root05:44
raingrovepenguin42, :'( i am not exactly running KDE, i am running XFCE4 and i dont want to setup arts05:44
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jendagfxstyler: quite05:44
msg43gfxstyler, I've been following it05:44
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msg43so hopefully you can go stpe by step05:44
TenPlus1XFCE4 is pretty good, I liked the Popcorn Slax linus05:44
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zx80userpenguin42 got one already thanks05:44
jendagfxstyler: thanx. I enter "sudo passwd root" to set the root password, right?05:44
XenguyTenPlus1: what is popcorn slax linus ?05:44
gfxstylerjenda: yes05:45
zx80userpenguin42 and my 8k ROM05:45
Stormx2jenda: Check the wiki05:45
TenPlus1will there ever be an Ubuntu lite that uses XFCE as the desktop managere ???05:45
jendagfxstyler: And how do I disable it then?05:45
penguin42zx80user: The extravegance of it....05:45
mipeWhere Can I change size icons on Desktop?05:45
TenPlus1Xenguy: Slax Linux (Popcorn Edition) is a tiny Live CD that boots into XFCE and gives u basic program for web and multimedia05:45
gfxstylermsg43: just do a "apt-get install nvidia-glx" or how the nvidia drivers are called, then do a "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and edit the line in "section device" -> column "driver" from "nv" to "nvidia", save it and then do a restart05:45
XenguyTenPlus1: it's being worked on AFAIK05:45
mdjakeanybody here can tell how to connect two ubuntu box with ad-hoc wlan connection?05:45
zx80userpenguin42 what a day that was when my 16k RAM pack arrived. Course, tell the youth of today you used to write z80 machine code for 1k boxes and they laugh in your face05:46
gfxstylerjenda: if you do that you can use "su" which is what you wanted or did i misunderstand you?05:46
XenguyTenPlus1: I have xfce4 installed on Ubu right now (on an older laptop)05:46
XenguyTenPlus1: I like it05:46
penguin42zx80user: I'll have to admit to being brought up on a 650205:46
Eternalistdoes xine support the kvcd format?05:46
Stormx2!wiki RootSudo05:46
MachineScrewI want to use E17s background. I don't want nautilus to control the background how can I achive this05:46
LjLzx80user: i've been writing a ZX Spectrum operating system, but that was in C ;-)05:46
raingrovei guess i should give up on kopete then05:46
raingrove:'(05:46
jendagfxstyler: not really I want to log into gnome to be able to manipulate the main users. It's not really for me - it's for nodl05:46
TenPlus1:) I used to use bbLean on Windows but it was giving me troubles... Explorer kept screwing around with the system because it wasnt default explorer05:46
msg43gfxstyler, thanks I'll try05:47
johndarkhorseubotu: tell TenPlus1 about xubuntu05:47
zx80userpenguin42 get thee behind me satan. Rich kid with a PET eh?05:47
penguin42zx80user: Nah later, a model B05:47
TenPlus1xubuntu ?05:47
jendaStormx2: that didn't work :)05:47
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Stormx2jenda: It did, it just pmed me it.05:47
zx80userpenguin42 still the enemy :)05:47
penguin42:-)05:47
jendaStormx2: ah cool05:47
XenguyTenPlus1: I didn't need xubuntu (a work in progress AFAICT) either; just install xfce4 main package05:48
msg43ubuntu should use a rolling upgrade system05:48
LjLmsg43: like what?05:48
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raingrovewhat i did was to install Ubuntu base system without X windows or GNOME or whatever05:48
raingrovethen install xwindows and xfce4 manually05:48
msg43LjL, well I use archlinux as my main distro it when there a new package it will be update automatically05:49
Stormx2...why?05:49
Wibble-Where can I download ubuntu packages from? (I'm using debian on the net-connected PC)05:49
raingroveoh it seems like there is something called xubuntu now05:49
raingrovelol05:49
msg43ok when I use nvidia instead of nv xorg starts but I get a blank screen05:49
raingrovedin notice05:49
zx80userLjL still a rich kids computer - you had sound!!!05:49
penguin42msg43: Well you could always use debian/sid or sit on the dev branch of ubuntu - but you know it is nice to have some stability!05:49
LjLmsg43: well the "automatically" part is there in Ubuntu, it's just that Ubuntu has this 6-months release cycle... but you still get bugfixes, security fixes and also backports if you want05:49
penguin42Wibble-: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/05:50
LjLzx80user: and *good* sound too! :-P but i must say i never really liked the C64 too much. what i *did* fall in love with was my Amiga, later05:50
Wibble-thanks penguin4205:50
jendagfxstyler: will sudo -i do that?05:50
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raingrove??05:50
raingroveyes?05:51
msg43ok well nvidia aint working05:51
gfxstylerback05:51
akaGoddoes anybody know of an alternative for: http://www.jufsoft.com/badcopy/05:51
gfxstylergod i hate newbies05:51
Stormx2!nvidia05:51
ubotu[nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736805:51
Stormx2gfxstyler: Why?05:51
Wibble-gfxstyler: you were one once ;)05:51
mahangu_gfxstyler, thats a bad attitude for a channel like this then05:51
msg43I folled the guides05:51
msg43gfxstyler, I'm not anoob05:51
msg43it not fuckin working05:51
msg43I change nvd to nvidia05:52
msg43or what every that first thing ws05:52
gfxstylerStormx2: when you dont help them they complain about that you dont help them. when you actually do help them, they try to flame you because they dont understand the stuff you tried to tell them05:52
mahangu_msg43, calm, down, nobody called you a noob05:52
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TenPlus1raingrove: can I see a screenshot of your Ubuntu desktop pls ?05:52
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msg43I get a blank screen when I use nvidia driver05:52
Stormx2gfxstyler: So don't sink to their level05:52
raingroveTenPlus1 : oh sure05:52
gfxstylerattention: this was not linux related (i was talking about some idiots in a programming forum)05:52
TenPlus1:)05:52
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msg43sorry johndarkhorse05:53
Wibble-penguin42: are there any archives with a web interface similar to debians one which shows the package dependencies so I can check what I need to d/l ?05:53
msg43I'm just very angry cause I can't get xorg to work05:53
gfxstylerguess that was a misunderstanding :)05:53
greenpenguin13runs away from ***penguin4205:53
jendagfxstyler: Any idea how to do that as simply as possible?05:53
penguin42Wibble-: Not sure05:53
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jendagfxstyler: I mean be able to manipulate with /home/ dirs from a third person (ie root)?05:53
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msg43gfxstyler, I'm going into the recovery mode to edit xorg05:53
msg43cause I'm not sure whats wrong05:53
msg43I just get a blank screen05:54
Stormx2msg43: Did you check the wiki page?05:54
gfxstylerjenda: sure, do you want it to do in a console or GUI ?05:54
Stormx2msg43: on nvidia05:54
LjLmsg43: can't you get to text mode?05:54
gfxstylerjenda: for gui, you have to enable root in GDM, because its not enabled by default05:54
msg43LjL, not when xorg start with the nvidia settings05:54
greenpenguin13i cant seem to get anything above a share ratin of 0.000 on bittorrent :-$05:54
LjLmsg43: i see05:54
msg43Stormx2, yes I did I follwe dthat about 100 times05:54
jendagfxstyler: GUI is preferable, because I'm helping a guy through IRC05:55
jendagfxstyler: But I guess I figured out a way05:55
Stormx2gksudo nautilus?05:55
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msg43I'm thinkg the Sync rates are wrong05:55
jendagfxstyler: Make a third dummy sudoer account from which I'll do that.05:56
gfxstylerStormx2: damn its that easy i didnt even thought about that05:56
Stormx2;-)05:56
greenpenguin13i think my router may be stopping bittorrent working correctly...05:56
Stormx2greenpenguin13: Forward some ports then ;-)05:56
mahangu_greenpenguin13, port forwarding05:56
mahangu_heh05:56
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mahangu_sorry lag05:56
Stormx2see portforward.com05:57
greenpenguin13thanks05:57
Stormx2no i just type faster ;-)05:57
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gfxstylermsg43: i think you are better of reinstalling ubuntu (if its just a fresh install)05:57
akaGodI burnt some DVD's at a speed that was too high for the discs, as a result I can't get back some of the data on the dvd's.... I know I was stupid. The data on the DVD's is really improtant to me, is there a way to get it back ? I have heard good reports for badcopy ( http://www.jufsoft.com/badcopy/ ) but that is only windows only (it has been known to work with wine/cxoffice) but I would much prefer a native linux solution. You know any al05:57
akaGodternatives?05:57
jefletcheryo, my alsa mixer says all my items are [off]  -- how do I turn them on? at the moment I have no sound so it must be this...05:57
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penguin42akaGod: How much of it reads - is it just some files that die?05:57
TenPlus1I wonder if nero 7 will appear for Linux ?05:58
Stormx2akaGod: eek05:58
msg43gfxstyler, I'd say so but this is my second time reinstalling05:58
msg43b/c of the same issue05:58
akaGodpenguin42, it is hit and miss.. some fiels read, some dont05:58
gfxstylerjefletcher: did you try to open up a console, then typing "alsamixer" or "alsa-mixer" and pressing M on each audio device?05:58
Stormx2msg43: Post on ubuntuforums.org with your system specs, video card, etc05:58
jefletchergfxstyler: i'll try that05:58
jendaTenPlus1: Is nero better than the free stuff?05:59
penguin42akaGod: Well copy those files off and then try a few different readers to see if some are more forgiving05:59
msg43Stormx2, ok will do after I finish talking to hp chat support05:59
gfxstylermsg43: as i tried to install the ati drivers for the first time i had to reinstall linux for at least 30 times :) the advantage is you learn a lot (its quite a while ago, though)05:59
Stormx2jenda: not really...05:59
rdancerhi, where do i switch all system sound effects off?05:59
akaGod"different readers" ?05:59
msg43trying to find out the monitors vert and horiz syn rates05:59
jendaStormx2: thought so05:59
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TenPlus1jenda: yes, a lot better... I've used a lot of free burning / video tools and nero is a lot simpler to use, plus it has a few neat tric ks05:59
raingroveTenPlus1, Here's the screenshot of my desktop http://www.comp.nus.edu.sg/~kimjihoo/Screenshot.png05:59
jefletchergfxstyler: still no sound =[05:59
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Stormx2jenda: You can use Serpentine for audio or GNOMEBaker for anything else05:59
raingrovei just installed it today05:59
msg43gfxstyler, ok cause I'm not a noob I know what I'm doing I've never used debian based and nvidia before05:59
msg43so its a new advanter05:59
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slewso did ubuntu-unregged get owned?06:00
gfxstylerjefletcher: that just unmutes the device, you have to get up the volume too :) (pressing the UP key)06:00
jendaStormx2: that's exactly what I do. Sometimes Gbaker is better even for audio06:00
Stormx2jenda: Or there is the command-line tool called cdrecord06:00
TenPlus1raingrove: looks kewl... :) xfcd rocks...06:00
melodramaticwhat should i do if i want to use my logitech webcam?06:00
gfxstylermsg43: you could use the driver from the nvidia page too, i think its .run so not  distribution related06:00
raingroveit's super fast man06:00
Stormx2jenda: I find that.06:01
jefletchergfxstyler: ye done that too, I get an error on windows, that says "DirectSound device not found" or somthing, but my microphone still works, it just doesnt play the recording06:01
jefletcheralso, songs playing in LimeWire work06:01
jendaStormx2: never tried that. I was just curious if Nero is worth breaking my no-non-free-soft rule...06:01
akaGodpenguin42, I can't copy the files because I get Input/Output errors06:01
Stormx2raingrove: Let me see06:01
gfxstylermelodramatic: try to find out what cam it exactly is06:01
penguin42akaGod: Yeh but you can copy some of them?06:01
akaGodso there is just a file with 0 bytes06:01
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TenPlus1I like using FairUse Wizard 2.0 for ripping DVD movies to .ogm... but I cant seem to find anything better on Linux at the moment06:01
msg43gfxstyler, I might cause I think I might have to patch the kernel for the laptop touch pad06:01
raingroveStormx2, xfce4 just installed it today :P http://www.comp.nus.edu.sg/~kimjihoo/Screenshot.png06:01
akaGodpenguin42,  yeah06:01
Stormx2jenda: Hell, if you have mp3 decoders, you are breaking the non-free software rule ;-)06:01
akaGodpenguin42, the ones that copy are fine06:01
jendaStormx2: I know... I try to use ogg whenever I can.06:02
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The_Isle_of_Marklo all06:02
melodramaticgfxstyler, its this one QuickCam Pro 300006:02
Stormx2raingrove: Ah. I have xfce4, I'm a gnome fanboy though06:02
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greenpenguin13hmm.  Iv now got a share rating of 0.022, but I haven't actually changed anything :-$06:03
TenPlus1that's why I use Ogg Vorbis a lot06:03
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raingroveStormx2, xfce4 is really fast:)06:03
ClayGanything similar to dvdshrink for nix?06:03
gnomefreakxfce is perfect not to light and not to heavy :)06:03
penguin42akaGod: OK, get those off first - I seem to remember there is a varient of dd somewhere that can ignore bad blocks - but I can't remember where06:03
ClayGor svcd2dvd+tmpgenc?06:03
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sambagirlthis is awful boring song spectral06:04
raingrovesee ya guys06:04
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Stormx2raingrove: GNOME is pretty nippy too ;-)06:04
akaGodpenguin42, I would be very gratefull if you could rememeber06:04
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pztakUbuntu used to automatically mount my external usb drive to /media/usbdisk.. I added an entry in /etc/fstab for /dev/sda1 to mount to /media/Photos and it now wont mount automatically anymore (i have to mount /dev/sda1).. Any ideas? (when it mounts, it mounts to the right dir, but still shows "140GB Volume" rather than Photos in Places06:05
ISOcratescan someone help me get a slave drive working on my ubuntu box?06:05
gfxstylerdamn im taking a whole buttload of flames right now :)06:05
ClayGor flashget, is there a nix D/L manager that will let you bring all links up on a page, then sort the ones that are actual files so you dont have to manually check box's?06:05
msg43well I got debug info06:05
penguin42ISOcrates: Whats the problem? IDE slave you mean?06:06
ISOcratesi have the jumper on properly and i booted in fine but i need to know how to mount the slave drive06:06
gfxstylerClayG: downloader4x and firefox flashgot plugin06:06
ISOcratespenguin42, yeah06:06
penguin42akaGod: It is called ddrescue - install the ddrescue package06:06
akaGodcheers penguin4206:06
penguin42ISOcrates: So whats the problem?06:06
melodramaticgfxstyler,  but the webcam works nicefully using gnome meeting so the driver might be up and running correctly... i need an apps to take pictures :)06:06
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TenPlus1my Intel CS-110 usb webcam crashes Ubuntu 5.10 when I try to use it06:07
ISOcratespenguin42: i don't know how to access it.  do i have to change something in the bios?  i also don't know where to look for it or how to mount it06:07
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gfxstylermelodramatic: if the cam works nice with gnomemeeting, then everything is alright :) you could just take a screenshot for example06:07
penguin42ISOcrates: OK, you should find that if your primary drive is hda then that one should be /dev/hdb - if you do a    cat /proc/partitions   do you see any hdb lines?06:07
xsimosWhich command line command shows in which package a specific file belongs?06:08
penguin42xsimos: dpkg -S06:08
xsimospenguin42: cheers :)06:08
ISOcratespenguin42: yeah i see hdb and hdb106:08
penguin42ISOcrates: Good06:08
melodramaticgfxstyler,  thats what i though id do :) thx alot sir06:09
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gfxstylermelodramatic: youre welcome06:09
penguin42ISOcrates: So you can go to the 'Disks' program on System->Administration menu and mount it, or if you prefer you can edit /etc/fstab to mount it somewhere06:10
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Frederickfolks wich is the package for umbrello?06:10
Frederickis it in the ordinary repositories?06:10
penguin42it is in universe06:10
gfxstylerFrederick: synaptic supports searching for packages, but maybe you have to activate universe/multiverse06:10
ISOcratespenguin42: awesome.  how do i get it to automount everytime?06:10
Frederickgfxstyler, can you give me the link for the how to?06:11
XenguyFrederick: apt-cache search umbrello06:11
msg43HI06:11
msg43gfxstyler, what is the basic nivida driver that default one?06:11
msg43is it NV, ND?06:11
penguin42ISOcrates: An entry in /etc/fstab is done everytime you boot - I think that pretty disc tool will set that up for you, but I've never used the pretty tool06:11
penguin42nv06:11
kandooradoes anyone have this problem with a wireless dsl:  it takes some time until a website starts loading06:11
akaGodpenguin42, cheers... it seems to be doing something (although its super processor intensive)06:11
gfxstylermsg43: nv06:11
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kandoorai.e. it is intermitent06:11
msg43gfxstyler, thanks and is there anything i have to know when I compile my own kernel for ubuntu?06:12
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gfxstylermsg43: yes, make an initrd06:13
msg43gfxstyler, is there a guide on making your own kernel06:13
ISOcratespenguin42: something like this?  /dev/hdb1   /mnt/newdisk  ext3    defaults     0 006:13
msg43cause I know how to do it for a regular old linux system06:13
Frederickhow do I enable multirvese?06:13
gfxstylermsg43: yes but its german, i dont know about a english one06:13
msg43oh06:13
vbgunzHello everyone... Rhythmbox locks up (freezes) when playing an Internet radio station and the wifi connection drops for too long. Rhythmbox cannot recover and I have to kill it. Worse is, if I use Force Quit from the panel, it might still linger in memory and prevent another instance from starting up again. I will have to "killall rhythmbox" and try again which usually solves the problem. Anyone else experience this?06:13
XenguyFrederick: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the line; then run apt-get update06:14
msg43does anyone know of a guide on how to make a kernel for ubuntu06:14
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deFryskvbgunz, imho rhythmox is kinda buggy06:14
ecobuntumsg43: google for kernel and debian06:14
vbgunzdeFrysk: The only bug I found about it is the one I mentioned... I don't listen to music much but like streaming shoutcast stations... Then when the above happens, it sort of kills the fun :(06:15
deFryskvbgunz, it does indeed too bad06:16
XenguyFrederick: hrm, just realized I don't have multiverse enabled myself (only universe)06:16
vbgunz:(06:16
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Xenguy!tell Frederick about multiverse06:16
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Rawplayeranyone in here using bsd secure levels? on linux06:18
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yakanybody knows how to make non-gnome window managers execute scripts at startup? (I usually do this through .xsession, but I don't see one here)06:21
Xenguyhrm, anyone know what the difference between Universe and Multiverse is?06:21
Granginmultiverse = nonfree06:21
gfxstyleryak: .xinitrc but you have to kick out GDM for that06:21
rdancerwhenever i click a button, a drum-like sound is played. how do i get rid of it?06:21
XenguyGrangin: OK, tx06:21
rdancerit's extremely utterly painfully annoying06:21
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gfxstylerrdancer: you can turn it off in settings/audio06:22
GranginXenguy, nonfree as in speech, but it's free as in beer :)06:22
XenguyGrangin: gotcha06:22
gfxstylerrdancer: i dont have a english ubuntu so i have to translate a little06:22
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deFryskor bongo's06:22
deFryskwhatever06:22
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yakgfxstyler: just make a new .xinitrc file?06:22
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deFryskXenguy, got speakers ?06:23
rdancergfxstyler: how do i get there?06:23
XenguydeFrysk: headphones/muzik are an exception of course06:23
gfxstyleryak: you can use gdm to select other desktop environments too06:23
deFryskXenguy, hehe06:23
rdancergfxstyler: i have the mac-like top-of-the screen menu, right?06:23
psychocatrdancer: preference->sound06:23
msg43how can I uninstall a package via command line?06:23
yakgfxstyler: yeah, but then where do I put startup scripts?06:23
Xenguymsg43: apt-get remove package06:23
ecobuntumsg43: apt-get remove packagename --purge06:23
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psychocatrdancer: system-.preferences-.sound06:23
gfxstylerrdancer: yes, then select computer/settings -> audio06:23
Xenguymsg43: --purge removes configuration files too06:24
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Grangindoes ubuntu work well with nforce2 chipsets, I'm thinking about trying out ubuntu since it's completely free :)06:24
gfxstyleryak: you mean scripts that are executed when X is launched? in .xinitrc :)06:24
rdancer"Sounds for events" unticked; thx psychocat gfxstyler06:24
slewcan gnome do transparent windows, if so, how?06:24
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yakubuntu06:24
gfxstylerslew: with X composite effects, its not gnome related06:24
Xenguyslew: aterm can (if that's what you mean)06:24
msg43thanks06:24
gfxstylerslew: but they are not stable, dont use them06:25
psychocatGrangin: you could download and try the live CD first, I'm pretty sure it works with nforce206:25
msg43gfxstyler, I found someone with a similar problem that i have on the forums so I'm trying the solution righ tnow06:25
_hello_hi! how can I install a telephone modem ?06:25
mustard5_hello_, what type of modem?06:25
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gfxstylerpowernowd sucks06:25
rdanceris there a terminal emulator in the default install?06:26
gfxstylerrdancer: gnome-terminal06:26
_hello_mustard5, it is a modem which comes with a Dell computer already assembled06:26
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cmathesoni keep getting 'could not open sound device' errors w/ some old-school games (fceu, ultima4, etc).  normal sound works (i'm using alsa for gaim, gstreamer, mplayer, etc), but i think i have issues w/ oss... any ideas06:26
psychocatrdancer: applications->accessories->terminal06:26
cmathesonoh, btw, i did a 'lsof /dev/dsp' and nothing was using the sound device at the time06:26
mustard5_hello_, so its an internal pci modem?06:27
rdancergfxstyler, psychocat: thx; the location in the menu tree is weird...06:27
Granginpsychocat, that's a good idea :)06:27
Xenguy_hello_: if this is for dial-up, the 'minicom' may be useful (see 'man minicom' for details)06:27
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aromanhi06:27
LjLwhat was the recommended (?) repository for bleeding-edge Wine? was it simply the WineHQ repository? (I thought it was in Ubotu, but it's not)06:27
gfxstylerhi06:27
aromanwhat filesystem type does an initrd filesystem use?06:28
slewgfxstyler, thanks06:28
_hello_mustard5, yes thats it06:28
dr_willisaroman,  i was thinking it was  compressed ext206:28
rdancerwow, the Gnome App Install tells me the menu tree position of the newly installed apps -- cool06:29
_hello_Xenguy,06:29
_hello_dave@davelinux:~$ man minicom06:29
_hello_Aucune entre de manuel pour minicom06:29
aromandr_willis, shoot... :(06:29
LjL_hello_: sudo aptitude install minicom06:29
mustard5_hello_, I think you need to determine whether its a winmodem.06:29
_hello_(command doesnt existe, nor the command "minicom")06:29
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Xenguy_hello_: are you trying to setup dial-up then?06:29
LjL!tell _hello_ about repos06:29
psychocatLjL: check this out, should work http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996&highlight=wine06:29
dr_willisaroman,  however I think it can depend. googling now.. and a guy is comparng the other fs's - minix, cramfs, and so forth.06:29
ISOcrateswhat does it mean when a drive is listed in the file browser as 'x-special/device-block'?06:29
aromandr_willis, I need to mount it on either windows or openbsd (my only 2 other machines) so I can modify it :(06:30
psychocatLjL: you can build it from CVS if you want the latest06:30
mustard5_hello_, try this site for assistance http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/06:30
dr_willisaroman,  that may be an issue then.06:30
dr_willisaroman,  try 'file  initrd.file' ?06:30
LjLpsychocat: yep i know, but i don't want to compile it, i was just positive that some sort of bleeding-edge (or recent, anyway) repository was mentioned a few times here06:30
dr_willisinitrd.img-2.6.12-9-686: gzip compressed data, from Unix, max compression06:30
mustard5_hello_, if its a 'controller-less' modem, then its probably specifically designed to run on windows only.  You may get it working on linux.  It depends on the brand.06:31
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aromandr_willis, ok, the ubuntu netboot initrd is a gzipped image of an ext2 file system. I managed to mount it from openbsd (which surprisingly supports mounting ext2)06:31
dr_willisaroman,  there maybe a Maz size to those things.06:32
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ISOcratescan you mount NTFS drives in ubuntu?06:32
somerville32Sure06:32
LjLISOcrates: yes, read-only06:32
dr_willis!ntfs06:32
ubotuntfs is, like, totally, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions06:32
ISOcratesthanks06:32
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somerville32mount -t ntfs /dev/hd<id> <directory_to_mount_to>06:32
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_hello__hello_: sudo aptitude install minicom >> good idea ;)06:33
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psychocatLjL: maybe it's this one, I don't remember -> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/06:34
LjLpsychocat: quite possibly!06:35
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_hello_Xenguy, im trying to get the modem installed to send faxes with it06:36
_hello_no modem appears in the device manager06:36
Xenguy_hello_: I don't know anything about fax06:36
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gfishhow can i get the networked printer to work06:37
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Xenguy_hello_: minicom can be used to trouble-shoot modems tho06:37
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Xenguygfish: 2 Ubu boxen?06:37
haffe_Hello, can I make lspci display the amount of memory on my graphics card?06:37
ClayGanyone here use squid or stunnel?06:37
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server_newbieHow do I delete a dir and all it's files from the command line ?06:40
LjLserver_newbie: rm -r -f dir06:40
LjLserver_newbie: be careful ;)06:40
Xenguyserver_newbie: careful: rm -rf dir06:40
server_newbiethanks06:40
Taliskerhow do I completely remove ubuntu without formatting my drive?06:40
gfishXenguy> the printer is on the network though a win xp computer06:40
_hello_Xenguy, its ok, but how do you install a modem driver06:40
Stormx2what do i need to uncompress a .rar file?06:40
greenpenguin13and dont type rm -rf /usr/bin like i did06:40
_hello_is there a "synaptic" for that ?06:40
shadikka:) at greenpenguin06:40
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Xenguygfish: OK, dunno for sure then; samba maybe?06:40
LjLStormx2: unrar-free or unrar-nonfree, depending on the archive06:40
Stormx2LjL: kay06:41
Xenguy_hello_: I'm not really sure06:41
shadikkaI have a problem with my WLAN :/ Device Manager shows the card (apparently) right yet it won't connect it anyhow. Do I need a package I don't have or something?06:41
server_newbieThanks Xenguy06:41
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Xenguyserver_newbie: yw06:41
gfishdoes anyone know how i can print to a networked printer06:41
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rebohttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=506933#post50693306:42
reboplease can someone help with that, thankyou06:43
Colegfish: you have to use samba to map it..i dont' have any windows pc's on my network so i cant' try06:43
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msg43woot!06:44
msg43I think I got nvidia to work succesfully06:44
greenpenguin13fyre: error while loading shared libraries: libcairo.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory06:45
shadikkaI have another problem, btw..06:45
shadikka(I'm typing it, I know the rules and so on ;)06:45
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gnomefreakrebo,  xp ubuntu and 64 what? and are all three 64bit? and can you paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst either in ubuntuforums or pastebin06:45
Iam8uprebo - go jump in a fire please06:45
witlessmy wife and i use separate X desktops running concurrently on an ubuntu workstation (i reach mine with ctrl-alt-F8 and she reaches hers with ctrl-alt-7).  when i plug in a USB digital audio player, it mounts it on her desktop instead of mine.  is there any way to get the machine to correctly recognize whose desktop session the device belongs to?06:45
greenpenguin13Fyre crashes with the error "fyre: error while loading shared libraries: libcairo.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"06:46
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msg43Hell yeah ubuntu is working06:46
msg43I mean nvidia06:46
msg43is06:46
shadikkaWhen I boot, after GRUB has finished loading ("Ok, uncompressing the kernel..."), I get a line with lots of numbers and a loong pause, after which I get /drivers/video/x errors "-1 File exists" and it boots normally o.O06:46
shadikkaThat kinda freaks me out...06:46
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msg43oh no I didn't :(06:47
Neihi how can I make the 'network' in nautilus show NFS shares?06:47
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gfxstylermsg43: so it does not work?06:48
Colegnomefreak: isn't there something about windows can only deal with 4 active partitions per disk?06:48
gnomefreaki dont know off head06:48
Colerebo: do you know what partitions on yoru drive are primary partitions and what are in a extended thingy06:49
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rebognomefreak: XP is 32 bit, ubuntu is 64 and x64 is the 64bit windows06:49
reboumm no:(06:49
rebounbuntu was installed last06:50
msg43gfxstyler, I dunno06:50
gnomefreakxp wont boot for that reason if i had to guess06:50
msg43it worked when I was in recovery mode but when I loged in as a regular user it didn't work to well06:50
gnomefreakrebo you have an amd 64?06:50
rebodoh06:50
msg43it loaded06:50
reboyeah06:50
rebox64 is working fine06:50
msg43but supertux and that stuff wouldn't work06:50
reboso is ubuntu06:50
rebojust not XP06:51
gfxstylermsg43: whats the error?06:51
psychocatcole: I think it can only handle 4 primary partitions, any other partitions must be extended partitions06:51
gnomefreakbut 32 bit windows isnt working cause its 32 bit running on 64bit processer06:51
msg43gfxstyler, segment default06:51
reboah that doesnt matter06:51
HappyFoolamd64's have a 32-bit emulation mode06:51
gnomefreakohhhh ok06:51
reboXP runs fine on amd64 chips06:51
gfxstylermsg43: does every 3d app segfault?06:51
msg43gfxstyler, yeah06:52
shadikkaHmm. I'm trying to find a WLAN package with Synaptic and have already selected 60 game packages :S06:52
msg43gfxstyler, I have to watch something brb06:52
gnomefreakrebo,  xp doesnt ever run fine06:52
reboheheh06:52
reboIt was all working before i installed ubuntu:D06:52
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psychocatrebo: post your menu.lst in the pastebin06:52
rebosure 1 mo06:52
shadikkaWell, it does run better than 98 ;D06:52
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shadikkaWell, I have muuuch less problems with Ubuntu now *wirn* XP only for playing Ragnarok Online and some other assorted games now ^^06:53
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Colerebo: are you using grub as yoru boot loader? or ntldr? since i thought you said ntldr06:53
psychocatcole: he has grub call up ntldr to boot his window os's06:54
psychocatwhy i don't know06:54
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c0ncould someone kindly help me change my screen res so that it doesnt look like the usable area of my screen is being tiled06:54
reboCole grub is the bootloader, but it has ntldr as an option06:55
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rebofrom which i can then choose XP or x6406:55
Colerebo: ok06:55
psychocatrebo: so you installed grub in the mbr?06:55
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zenlunaticare there clearlooks-cairo packages? or is it in dapper?06:55
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reboyeah psychocat06:56
reboguh sorry using a KVM to switch between machines 1 mo :D06:57
psychocatzenlunatic: check this out -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89056&highlight=clearlooks+cairo06:57
mdjakeTerminX,06:57
mdjakesorry06:57
mdjakemistyping06:57
psychocatrebo: probably easiest thing to do is not involve the ntldr at all06:58
rebohttp://pastebin.ca/2967006:58
reboYeah06:58
shadikkaBut can anyone help with that video driver error when booting?06:58
reboideally i dont want to use NTLDR06:58
reboi like grub when it works06:58
gnomefreakzenlunatic,  theres really much of nothing in dapper since theyve only been working on it for 2 weeks or so06:58
reboideally i would like to boot into x64 or XP straight from grub06:58
rebothose are various perumations i tried06:59
rebobut none of them work06:59
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rebopermutations*06:59
Red-Soxcan you run gnome in windows06:59
Red-Sox?06:59
rebohttp://pastebin.ca/2967006:59
mdjakecan anybody help me with dhcp server configuration? I have a mini-Ubuntu-server with 3 network cards: 1 (eth0) internet connection and 2 (eth1, ra0) for NAT - how can I tell the server to serve 192.168.1.x addresses on eth0 and 192.168.2.x on ra0?06:59
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rebothe first one is the one that loads the NTLDR, and that works but XP dont work from that, only x6407:00
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shadikkaRed-Sox, probably with cygwin, AFAIK not else..07:00
msg43Hi07:00
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msg43gfxstyler, ok now it doens't work again :(07:00
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msg43though I get an error in the logs07:01
smomdjake .. I'm pretty convinced you want to read 'man route' .. I'm not sure I can be much more help than that tho07:01
reboany ideas psychocat ?07:01
msg43it says07:01
_hello_mustard5, is an Intel modem considered as a Winmodem ?07:01
psychocatrebo: still looking at it, one sec07:01
rebook thankyou very much07:02
msg43Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o": No Symbols found07:02
msg43so can anyone help me figure out what is wrong07:02
BooZeecan sombody explain to me privatly what is IPv6 ?07:02
Colerebo:  (hd0,4) shoudl be your xp partitions as it is /dev/sda5 6375 12748 51199123+ 7 HPFS/NTFS07:02
Colerebo: (i think)07:02
msg43i manually installed the nvidia driver following a guide using the installer07:02
reboah maybe thats it07:02
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barry5I think I have broken my keyboard shortcuts, when I press the: ctl + alt + F1 : combo nothing happens (if I do it in an gnome-terminal window) then "P" is echoed to the screen, F1-F4 gives me: PQRS, and F5-F12 give me: ;7~07:03
reboill try Cole07:03
mdjakesmo, NAT is configured properly - both client machines can use the net. However the dhcp server gives the same address on ra0 as on eth1 (192.168.1.x) so ra0 doesn't work - this can be solved by route?07:03
Xenguyer, up07:03
mustard5_hello_, I couldnt say for sure, but I would suspect if its an internal pci modem in a dell computer then its a winmodem (they are cheap and I would think most Dell's have cheap hardware inside)07:03
zenlunaticpsychocat: i need ppc package unfortunately07:03
psychocatrebo: it should be (hd1,4) since the SATA drive is hd107:03
msg43so can anoyne help me???07:04
msg43I have no clue what is wrong07:04
psychocatzenulunatic: ah sorry07:04
rebodo i need the map swap commands in there too?07:04
mustard5_hello_, winmodem are cheaper because they take shortcuts with the hardware by using parts of the operating system (ie windows) to make them work07:04
msg43Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o":  No symbols found07:04
psychocatrebo: let me post back to your forum post and try that07:04
Colephysocat: why/how is the SATA drive hd1? is it always? or did i miss something?07:04
msg43that what gdm spit out at me when I have my driver in xorg as nvidia07:04
mustard5_hello_, if you keep reading the guides at that link and others you might find a program of some kind that can determine what your modem chipset is07:05
Colephysocat: nm i'm a morong07:05
rebowith maps, i get invalid device requested error 1207:06
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reboand (hd1,4)07:06
msg43oh please I've been working on this for ever07:06
msg43gfxstyler, you around?07:06
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gfxstyleryes07:06
gfxstylerim watching you muahahaha :) lol07:06
_hello_mustard5, yes I downloaded the scanModem and ran it and it told me I have a Intel modem07:06
rebowith hd0,4 i get error 22 no such partition07:06
rebo=[07:06
msg43gfxstyler, can you help I'm so last07:06
msg43lost07:07
_hello_wait a minute...07:07
msg43it was working now it doesn't work07:07
gfxstyleri try it, whats your problem?07:07
Neiwhy can't I browse nfs in ubuntu?07:07
mustard5_hello_, personally I would be buying an external modem that connects via your serial port (RS232 port), and getting rid of that one.07:07
Colerebo: yeah i was a moron your sata drive is hd107:07
gfxstylerit worked, then you rebooted and it does not work anymore?07:07
gnomefreakhda107:07
msg43when I put nvidia in the driver secton gdm fails to start and this is what is in the log07:07
msg43yeah07:07
rebothats no problem Cole, im even thicker :D07:07
msg43Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o":  No symbols found07:08
mustard5_hello_, you may get that one working.  What do the guides say?07:08
msg43and that what is in the log07:08
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gnomefreakmsg43, did you try reconfiguring the X setup?07:08
rebohmm maybe ill try getting rid of the maps07:08
psychocatrebo: i replied to your post.  try that and see how it goes07:08
rebothank you psychocat07:08
_hello_mustard5, have you ever run scanModem ?07:08
rebobtw KVM's are cool :D07:08
msg43gnomefreak, yep07:08
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psychocatrebo: that's because it should be (hd1,4)07:08
msg43I'll try again07:08
mustard5_hello_, about 2 years ago (my memory of it is lost)07:09
msg43but i'll doubt it will wokr07:09
msg43well I'm in x righ tnow uisng the nv driver07:09
rebo(hd1,4)07:09
msg43which is the sucky driver07:09
reboyeah thats what i tried07:09
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reboi get invalid device error 1207:09
psychocatk07:09
rebohowever it did have the map swap thing in before07:09
gfxstylermsg43: what happends if you do a "sudo modprobe nvidia" ?07:09
gnomefreakmsg43,  stupid question but are you sure its right driver?07:09
msg43gfxstyler, thing maybe I need the nvidia driver loaded07:10
msg43let me try now07:10
msg43brb07:10
psychocatrebo: is the SATA drive booting first?07:10
gfxstylermsg43: okay07:10
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rebonot 100% sure on that will check after i tried your method :D07:10
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EddieDaManhello07:11
c0ncould someone help me figure out how to use a higher resolution (i know my laptop can use it, but as soon as i go higher than 1024x768, the screen tiles....07:11
psychocatrebo: if it is then try with (hd0,0) and (hd0,4) respectively07:11
_hello_mustard5, whould it be useful if I send you the ModemData.txt ?07:11
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mustard5_hello_, use the pastebin to do so07:11
EddieDaMancan anyone please help get amarok to get working?07:11
mustard5ubotu: tell _hello_ about pastebin07:12
EddieDaManwow, so ungrammatical07:12
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EddieDaManlol07:12
msg43gfxstyler, samehting07:12
sazwerxhow to connect to Window$ computer using "Terminal Server Client"? i'm always get "Connection Refused"..07:12
msg43it seem slike it attempts to load07:12
msg43but it fails07:12
msg43like i see the nvidia screen for a few secs07:12
barry5I think I have broken my keyboard shortcuts, when I press the: ctl + alt + F1 : combo nothing happens (if I do it in an gnome-terminal window) then "P" is echoed to the screen, F1-F4 gives me: PQRS, and F5-F12 give me: ;7~07:12
trappistsazwerx: make sure the terminal server is running and that you're connecting to the right box07:12
gfxstylermsg43: what does "dmesg | grep nvidia" say ?07:12
c0nsazwerx, ive had the same problem07:13
sazwerxtrappist, terminal server? how to check it?07:13
trappistsazwerx: what version of windows07:13
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msg43gfxstyler, [4294701.120000]  nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.07:13
witlessi have a /dev/md0 raid device that's not getting mounted on boot.  maybe /etc/mdadm-raid starts after the mount attempt?  how do i get it to mount automatically?  the entry is in fstab, and i'm able to mount it once the machine has booted07:13
sazwerxtrappist, XP with SP2, and i'm already enabled the "Remote Desktop" connection07:14
trappistsazwerx: that's the terminal server.  next step, make sure you're hitting the right machine.07:14
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psychocatbarry5: check System -> Preferences -> keyboard shortcuts07:14
msg43gfxstyler, let me reboot out of recovery mode ok?07:14
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Xenguytrappist: is it possible to get TS for W2K (it's not installed right now AFAICT)07:14
ColdWindHi07:14
barry5psychocat, checked them, but cannot find the relevant binding07:14
_hello_mustard5, ok I sent it with name: _hello_07:14
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trappistXenguy: yes, but it's not free07:14
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_hello_(lack of imagination)07:14
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mustard5_hello_, show me the URL now07:15
ColdWinddo someone know how to make the gnome panel's menu transparent?07:15
_hello_ok..07:15
Xenguytrappist: ahh07:15
_hello_http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/479707:15
sazwerxtrappist, i'm 100% sure hitting the right machine.. but i'm still get connection refused.. any more clues?07:15
gnomefreak_awayi/msg nickserv identify spanky07:15
spongeboblamepanhello i heard that you can install x windows and xfce from base07:15
mustard5_hello_, thanks..07:15
gnomefreak_awayoops07:15
spongeboblamepanis that true?07:15
barry5psychocat, would it be a good idea to delete the binding file (don't know where that is) and let the shortcut applet to recreate it (don't know if it will)?07:15
c0nive got the same problem as sazwerx, and im right next to the computer i want to remote into07:15
trappistsazwerx: if you're hitting the right machine and getting connection refused it's a windows issue.  check firewall, things like that.07:15
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spongeboblamepandoes anyone know if this is ture?07:15
ColdWindspongeboblamepan yes, it's true, you have to type "server" when you boot the installation CD and do the installation from sratch07:16
EddieDaManwhy does my amarok keep rebuffering?07:16
Pegasos989I'm having a slight problem. Every time I try to open synaptic package mager, it closes automatically immediately. :/07:16
EddieDaManwhen i used the cool streams feauture?07:16
sazwerxtrappist, i've turned off the firewall..07:16
spongeboblamepanColdWind: how would i install x windows from base?07:16
ColdWinddo you mean without installing gnome?07:16
trappistsazwerx: I'm trying to politely tell you that it's a windows issue and therefore won't be supported here07:16
gnomefreak_away!windows07:17
ubotuI guess windows is unnecessary, everything runs in Linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office or find an !alternative, or what you remove to make room for kubuntu07:17
sazwerxtrappist, ok.. sorry, bro.. thanks07:17
gnomefreak_awaysorry had to07:17
psychocatbarry5: if you let the shortcut applet recreate it, it should backup the binding file and use the new one so give it a shot07:17
gnomefreak_awaybbl07:17
spongeboblamepanColdWind: yes07:17
barry5any idea where it is located psychocat ?07:17
greenpenguin13what folder do fonts go in please?07:17
spongeboblamepanColdWind: i want to install Xwindows from base without gnome and use xfce in its place07:17
psychocatbarry5: i'm not sure, sorry :(07:18
ColdWindspongeboblamepan: boot the Ubuntu cd, type server, and when it finish of installing the base files, type sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop (it's the alternative package for XFCE desktop insted of gnome)07:18
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spongeboblamepanColdWind: and thats it?07:18
trappist!tell spongeboblamepan about xubuntu07:18
londonboi2k3sazwerx, have you got a password on the windows box, if not you wont be able to connect to with with terminal services07:18
londonboi2k3sazwerx, I use terminal services and am connected to my windows box now with no problems07:18
MarlunHello again, how big does the swap space need to be? I've got a pretty big HD so I don't need to the minimum requirement but the best possible :)07:18
spongeboblamepanColdWind: dont i have to configure my xorg.conf or something like that?07:18
ColdWindwell, if you don't have any problem configuring your network in the "server" installation...07:18
sazwerxlondonboi2k3, yes, i have07:19
ColdWindthere shouldn't be problems07:19
gfxstylerMarlun: how much ram do you have?07:19
ColdWindno07:19
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msg43Hi07:19
msg43Ok07:19
sazwerxlondonboi2k3, tell me the steps please..07:19
gfxstylermsg43: hi07:19
spongeboblamepanBy my network you mean internet right?07:19
trappistMarlun: bigger is not always better with swap07:19
Marlungfxstyler: 102407:19
ColdWindyour xorg.conf is configured automatically07:19
msg43I'm back in regulare mode07:19
londonboi2k3sazwerx, have you enabled terminal services?07:19
ColdWindyeah07:19
msg43gfxstyler I have no clue whats wrong07:19
msg43it I see the nvidia logo screen07:19
gfxstylerMarlun: 512 should be enough, the swap is used when your ram gets full07:19
Marluntrappist: thats why I'm asking :)07:19
mustard5_hello_, lots to read :)  still reading....07:19
sazwerxlondonboi2k3, terminal services where? ubuntu?07:20
ColdWindall you need is the server base installation and the xubuntu-desktop packet07:20
greenpenguin13fonts folder anyone?07:20
Marlungfxstyler: ok, thanks :)07:20
ColdWindhey, anyone know how to make gnome panel's menu transparent?07:20
psychocatbarry5: i would assume is somewhere in your home directory07:20
gfxstylerColdWind: rightclick on it, then properties07:20
londonboi2k3sazwerx, have pvt you if thats ok07:20
trappistMarlun: if you have 512mb ram I would do 1024mb of swap07:20
rebopsychocat thanks very much for your help but none of them are working :(07:20
gfxstylerColdWind: choose solid color and move the slider07:20
reboi think i might just re install everything07:20
barry5psychocat, me too, looking around in ~/.gnome2 atm07:20
tcmjrWhere should I go to update my ubuntu 5.04 to 5.10 ?07:20
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Marluntrappist: I have 1024 in ram and gfxstyler told me to have 512, not the other way around ;P07:21
_hello_mustard5, thanks07:21
gfxstylertcmjr: change every hoary to breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list07:21
trappistgfxstyler: sorry didn't know you had a gig.  are you running a himem kernel?07:21
somerville32Whats better?07:21
somerville32gdm or kdm?07:21
psychocatrebo: did you try commenting out all you had and just having those plus the entries for ubuntu?07:21
trappistsomerville32: matter of preference07:21
gfxstylertrappist: i dont have a gig :D Marlun has a gig07:21
trappistdang it07:21
barry5somerville32, flame war alert ? (gdm imo)07:22
rebono would it of made a difference :o ?07:22
trappistMarlun: sorry didn't know you had a gig.  are you running a himem kernel?07:22
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Cryptidsomerville32, gdm07:22
gfxstylertrappist: high mem is for > 4gb thoguh07:22
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trappistgfxstyler: no.07:22
somerville32Which one looks the best? :)07:22
tcmjrgfxstyler, thanks07:22
psychocatrebo: worth a shot.  just comment the windows stuff except the stuff you just added.07:22
ColdWindgfxstyler: I'm going to try it, thanks07:22
reboThe IDE is currently booting first07:22
reboSATA 2nd07:22
Marluntrappist: lol, stop confusing people :P07:22
psychocatrebo: ok so it all should be (hd1,something)07:22
Marluntrappist: I don't even know what a himem kernel is :)07:23
trappistgfxstyler: linux will only use something like 800mb unless you use a himem kernel07:23
ColdWindgfxstyler, I don't mean the gnome panel (the bar) I mean the Gnome menu07:23
psychocatrebo: can you reply with your whole menu.lst in the forum?07:23
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gfxstylertrappist: when you configure the kernel the highmem option lowest value is 4gb i think, or we dont talk about the same thing07:23
trappistMarlun: you aren't taking full advantage of your gig of ram unless you're using a kernel that recognizes it all07:23
msg43why doesn't ubuntu have xorgconf07:23
rebosure psychocat07:23
gfxstylerColdWind: sorry i misunderstood you07:23
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trappistgfxstyler: there's 16gb, 4gb, and no.  if no, you only get about 800mb07:24
Marluntrappist: I've used only windows up till resently :)07:24
Pegasos989I'm having a slight problem. Every time I try to open synaptic package mager, it closes automatically immediately. :/07:24
Neiwhy can't I add nfs mounts with nautilus?07:24
mustard5_hello_, well I find it pretty confusing to read, but I am thinking its telling you that it is a 537 chipset07:24
barry5msg43, /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?07:24
gfxstylertrappist: thanks, didnt know that07:24
msg43barry5 yeah there is an tool that can configure xorg07:24
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msg43that included with xorg07:24
mustard5_hello_, there may be drivers on the Intel site...07:24
gfxstylertrappist: damn, just compiled a "perfect" kernel a few days ago07:24
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tcmjrgfxstyler, after I do that how to update ?07:24
barry5Pegasos989, open it up via teminal and see what error it outputs07:24
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trappistgfxstyler: the 4gb option lets you use UP TO 4gb, the 16gb up to 16.07:24
gfxstylertcmjr: type "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"07:24
tcmjrgfxstyler, tks07:25
ghostdogI need a hand setting up ltsp server07:25
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drcodehi all07:25
barry5msg43, try: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:25
drcodehow I can update evoltion ver07:25
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rebowhat i cant figure out is, if NTLDR is there and grub is there where are they residing ?07:25
reboboth in the MBR ?07:25
drcodeI try apt-get install evo. but it say its the last07:25
ghostdogthe client computer does see the pxe server but I get error 107:25
trappistghostdog: might be worth seeing if #ltsp is still active07:25
ghostdogfile not found07:25
drcodeand in the web site it is not07:25
cafuegorebo: No, there can be only one (like in highlander) in the MBR07:25
ghostdogtrappist, thanks07:26
cafuegorebo: Which one shows first at bootup?07:26
headdownhello...I am not able to configure my thunderbird to send mails...its always asking me for the password and then doing nothing...07:26
Pegasos989barry5, (synaptic:10222): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, (synaptic:10222): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers07:26
rebogrub, but then i can select ntldr from grub07:26
rebodoes that mean ones on the other harddisk?07:26
cafuegorebo: Ok, that means GRUB is in the MBR and NTLDR is in the partition boot record.07:26
reboah07:26
Pegasos989it also says Vylvirhe but I have no idea how to say that in english07:26
rebopartition boot record07:26
rebook07:26
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reboi think this install is well borked up07:27
reboi might just start again:D07:27
cafuegorebo: No, that's absolutely fine.07:27
mustard5_hello_, I'm just going over the 537EP drivers at the Intel website...trying to work out which ones might be best to download and try07:27
_hello_mustard5, I was confused too but I saw the line..07:27
reboin theory yes cafuego, its just borked;D07:27
cafuegorebo: Do you want them to be the other way around?07:27
_hello_rom archives, the soft modem codec type of 1028:1000 is: INTEL537EP07:27
psychocatcafuego: he should be able to boot all of the os's without having to call up the NTLDR right?07:28
reboIm happy with grub, just XP wont boot from it07:28
reboyeah i dont even want to use that NTLDR thing07:28
shadikkaoh, is that why my XP works no more -.- It worked previously!07:28
cafuegopsychocat: No, the way to boot XP from grub is *via* that bootstrap-to-ntldr process.07:28
_hello_with google I found that link07:28
_hello_http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=713012d4af41105377ad466b8b1279f7&t=3676207:28
rebooh07:28
cafuegorebo: Nono, that's the way it works :-)07:28
rebohmm07:29
cafuegorebo: Now what you can do is snapshot the MBR (grub) in a 512 byte files and add *that* back into the ntldr menu, so you can flip from grub to ntldr to grub to ntldr to grub ...07:29
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reboheh thats a bit sneaky07:30
cafuegoNot instantly useful, but there ya go.07:30
shadikkao.O07:30
spongeboblamepancan someone help me with installing xfce from base07:30
mustard5_hello_, looking at link now.. (keep putting my nick in front of your message in irc, plz.  Or I lose you in the chat :) )07:30
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psychocatcafuego: thanks07:30
spongeboblamepanhow woudl i go about doing this?07:30
reboanyway07:30
navaronewoot@getting nickserv to work07:30
reboeven if we do it this ntldr way that still doesnt fix the XP issue :/07:30
spongeboblamepanColdwind showed me how but he didnt tell me how to configure my network in server07:30
cafuegorebo: XP itself won't boot?07:30
mustard5_hello_, hmmm looks like a good guide...just reading it further...07:30
rebox64 boots from NTLDR but XP doesnt07:30
reboboth were working before i installed ubunutu07:31
msg431I"ve given up on ubuntu :(07:31
cafuegoDid you move its partition at all?07:31
navaronerebo> is someone trying to use ntldr as bootmanager?07:31
psychocatrebo: paste the link to the pastebin entry so that cafuego can take a look07:31
reboi had 38 gigs of free space after i installed x64 then XP07:31
reboi installed ubuntu into that07:31
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rebohttp://pastebin.ca/2967007:31
reboeverything apart from the first one is my ham fisted attempt to get it to work07:32
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cafuego... or even speakling to the right channel...07:32
navaroneor answers...lol07:32
rebothe first one loads NTLDR, but xp dont work from that x64 does though07:32
witlessis there a way to save all the contents of a folder in a web browser to local disk?07:32
reboheh no problem cafuego07:32
psychocatcafuego: he has all three os's in one sata drive that's booting second to an ide drive07:32
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witless(through the gnome desktop_07:32
rebolol07:32
reboi know its well messed up07:32
BooZeeHelp on IPv6 ??07:33
reboi think all the boot stuff needs to be on the sata07:33
reboas the IDE was only ment to be some extra storage not contain the boot stuff07:33
rebo:D its a mess07:33
cafuegorebo: The sata drive is C: as far as Windiows is concerned? Was XP on the ide to begin with?07:33
londonboi2k3Anyone round here using Dapper?07:33
drcodebtw:where konquest store his bookmark?07:33
rebono the IDE appeard as C07:33
rebothe sata was E + F lol07:34
cafuegoStill does?07:34
cafuegoOk, so they were swapped...07:34
reboand nothing was on the IDE at all07:34
navaronerebo> have you or anyone helping looked at this site http://enterprise.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/02/16/191205   <--  I don't know if that is of interest07:34
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cafuegoSo previously windows XP ran off E: and was happy?07:34
spongeboblamepancan someone help me07:34
navaroneoops...wait that gives error07:35
reboor F, cant remember 100%07:35
rebobut yeah07:35
mustard5_hello_, it looks like you are going to need some help with compiling the drivers..I can think of one step thats not included in the how to that would make life easier07:35
cafuegocool.07:35
reboXP and x64 were happy as dandy07:35
rebobut all this points to the boot stuff being on the IDE doesnt it?07:35
rebothis is really bad i think07:35
londonboi2k3spongeboblamepan, dont ask for help just ask your qestion07:35
cafuegoAnd Linux is on IDE now? (C:?)07:35
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rebono everything is on the sata07:35
rebothe ide just contains some backup files from my other machien07:36
cafuegoDid you plonk Linux after Windows?07:36
reboyeppers07:36
spongeboblamepanI want to install ubuntu base system without gnome07:36
cafuegoCool. So which aprtition contains what now?07:36
rebox64 then XP then linux07:36
spongeboblamepani want to use xfce instead07:36
cafuegosad1, sda2, sad3?07:36
londonboi2k3spongeboblamepan, at boot time use server07:36
spongeboblamepani know how to do it simply stype sudo apt-get xubuntudesktop07:36
spongeboblamepanbut then i heard you have to setup network07:37
cafuegospongeboblamepan: Install the 'server' install from the CD. Then add 'xubuntu-desktop'07:37
spongeboblamepanhow do i setup my network07:37
spongeboblamepan?07:37
rebohttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=506933#post50693307:37
cafuegospongeboblamepan: The server install should have asked for the network stuff.07:37
reboi got the fdsik stuff there07:37
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spongeboblamepancafuego: so that means i dont have to do any network setting up>?07:37
rebomaybe if i remove the IDE drive, system restore fix the MBR on the sata07:38
cafuegospongeboblamepan: As far as I'm aware, indeed.07:38
rebowith XP disk07:38
rebothen install grub with ubuntu disk07:38
rebowould that work ?07:38
headdowngot this error msg on my mailserver: Nov 20 19:23:38 sbmp sendmail[21575] : jAKINZEX021575: chello062178150071.7.14.vie.surfer.at [62.178.150.71]  did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to stdin07:38
cafuegorebo: sda4 is yer extended partition?07:38
spongeboblamepancafuego: alright imma try to install server now07:38
spongeboblamepanthanx07:38
headdowndoes this help?07:38
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HellDragonhttp://el.c.la07:39
headdowni just cant send mails07:39
rebohmmm i always get extended and primary partitions confused:(07:39
reboi dont know sorry cafuego07:39
cafuegorebo: Um, logical I mean.07:39
_hello_mustard5, which step ??07:39
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cafuegorebo: sda4 is the one that is the container for sda5 through 7? Or is there no sda4...07:39
rebooh07:39
headdownno one an idea why SMTP via thunderbird doesnt work?07:39
reboyes it might just be07:39
cafuegook.07:40
Pegasos989What would be a good program for burning a cd from .ISO file?07:40
gfxstylerPegasos989: k3b for example07:40
gfxstylerPegasos989: or gnomebaker07:40
cafuegoHave you tried the grub stuff without mapping? Just install an MBR (but nothing else) on IDE?07:40
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Pegasos989thanks, gfxstyler07:41
mustard5_hello_, well when compiling I think you you can change the command 'make install' to checkinstall and it will create a deb package to install it, so that you can easily uninstall07:41
rebocafuego thank you very much for your help but i think im going to re install everything07:41
cafuegoPegasos989: Right-click the ISO in Gnome, then select 'Burn to disc...'07:41
reboas it shouldnt be on the IDE at all07:41
reboyou've helped alot but i dont want to waste your time anymore07:41
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reboill remove the IDE07:41
cafuegorebo: Nono, ia32 is a bit crappy that way, it needs the MBR to be on the first disk.07:41
_hello_mustard5, maybe your right, the terminal tells me "Current running kernel is: 2.6.12-9-38607:41
_hello_     /lib/modules...   autoconf.h does not exist       please install kernel source"07:41
rebothen once everything is working07:41
Pegasos989cafuego, there is a feature like that? 133707:41
reboill put the IDE back in07:41
witlesswonder if i should have encoded all my music in ogg q=10 ...07:41
mustard5_hello_, thats one problem I see with it...secondly I don't like the way he gets a root terminal in the how to07:42
rebothat will ensure theMBR is all on the first disk yeah ?>07:42
cafuegorebo: *if* you remove that ide drive put it bac k later, windows is going to have a hissy-fit coz the drive letters will change.07:42
mustard5_hello_, and also he has included some other steps..so its an incomplete tutorial atm07:42
rebowhy though cafuego ?07:42
gfxstylerwhy the hell im getting called by +3311 every 5 minutes? lol07:42
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rebowont it treat it as just "another drive"07:42
cafuegorebo: Becaude windows is a badly designed POS ;-)07:42
rebohaha07:42
mustard5_hello_, any chance you can join #kubuntu-offtopic ?  This channel is moving too fast for me to keep up07:42
reboyou might be right there07:43
cafuegorebo: *unless* you make sure that when the IDE drive is plugged on, the *bios* sees is as second drive.07:43
reboyeah ill make sure of that07:43
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spongeboblamepancafuego: i forgot to ask07:43
cafuegorebo: *if* it all used to work fine, all you need to do is have grub in the MBR on ide, with the right file (no mapping/hiding) poiting at disk 2.07:43
spongeboblamepancafuego: once i sudo apt-get xubuntudesktop what do i do after that?07:44
spongeboblamepancafuego: reboot?07:44
ClayGcan't you just logout?07:44
reboyeah but i at some point intend to remove the IDE and give it to someone else07:44
cafuegospongeboblamepan: 'xubuntu-desktop'. When that's done, you can type 'startx'.07:44
reboso i cant be having the system spread over 2 drives07:44
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reboor at least those 2 drives07:44
spongeboblamepancafuego: ok so... so everytime i boot up from now on i have to type startx?07:44
cafuegorebo: Well, when you do that E: will become C: and it'll be all bad.07:44
reboyeah thats why im gonna reinstall07:45
cafuegospongeboblamepan: Unless you also install 'gdm', in which case it will give you  anice login screen.07:45
reboafter i take the drive out07:45
cafuegorebo: *nod* Just make sure the way the bios lists 'em will allow for that without *another* reinstall later.07:45
spongeboblamepancafuego: how do i get gdm?07:45
rebook will do, thank you07:46
MarlunI've just installed a server-installation of ubuntu, can I somehow get a description of what all the colors mean when I list files?07:46
cafuegospongeboblamepan: sudo apt-get install gdm (and you can get nice xfce themes for gdm too)07:46
linuxboyis gplflash in ubuntu?07:46
spongeboblamepanok cool07:46
cafuegolinuxboy: yes07:46
spongeboblamepancafuego: so once i get gdm i dont have to boot into command line adn type startx?07:46
linuxboycafuego: where?07:46
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cafuegospongeboblamepan: Nope, though you may need to run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start' (just once)07:47
cafuego!info gplflash07:47
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Deterministanyone here that has managed to make a notifications desklet run successfully with gdesklets? i manage to run the desklet, but it just wont display the notifications07:47
cafuegolinuxboy: Ok, fine, so it's not :-P07:47
linuxboycafuego: :P07:47
cafuegolinuxboy: hold on07:47
linuxboycafuego: I also thought it was. But I can't find it07:47
cafuegolinuxboy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-7f415bb22e9ee34e1e0fbc9d2b56f17ec18475f407:47
spongeboblamepancafuego: so... when i run that what will happen?07:48
cafuegoExcept $MORON on the wiki seems to have trashed my checkinstall gplflash solution.07:48
cafuegospongeboblamepan: It will bring you rhe gdm login screen07:48
linuxboycafuego: aaaah. so it isn't ;)07:48
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jcolewhere's a good place to go on making my own .debs from source and/or binay packages?07:48
spongeboblamepancafuego: so when i run that once i wont have to boot into command line constantly?07:49
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cafuegolinuxboy: So, with that wiki stuff, rather that running 'sudo make install', run 'sudo checkinstall' (that will generate a gplflash.deb)07:49
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navaronelinuxboy...i have thread you may be interested in..mentions gplflash   http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21427.html07:49
cafuegolinuxboy: You will need to apt-get install checkinstall07:49
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ClayGanyone here running squid or stunnel?07:49
cafuegospongeboblamepan: Indeed. After the nextr eboot, it will come up with the gdm login windows by default.07:49
spongeboblamepanok cool07:49
spongeboblamepanimma try it now07:50
beef_sprocketis courier-webadmin not accessible through webmin?07:50
spongeboblamepancafuego: any last words before i try it?07:50
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spongeboblamepanok im off to do it now07:51
cafuegobeef_sprocket: Nope.07:51
cafuegobeef_sprocket: That has its own interface through sqwebmail afaik.07:51
beef_sprockethow to access it then? specific url on localhost?07:52
beef_sprocketah07:52
freeemanenHow do see that changes that happens in dapper drake?07:52
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Excaliborgreetings07:52
Excaliborplease, some help: I'm trying to setup a new printer (I didn't have one before), but I cannot find which cups program to use?07:53
beef_sprocketcafuego: how to access sqwebmail then?07:53
cafuegobeef_sprocket: install it, configure it, log into it07:53
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_nullAnyone using NetworkManager in here?07:53
beef_sprocketI'm doing this through an ssh connection to another box..07:53
_jasonExcalibor, you best bet is http://www.linuxprinting.org/07:54
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tcmjris it safe to upgrade 5.04 to 5.10 or should I do a fresh install of 5.10 ?07:55
somerville32It is save to upgrade07:56
somerville32I did it and had excellent results07:56
Excalibor_jason, thanks, I'll check there07:56
tcmjrsomerville32, synaptic or apt-get ?07:57
MarlunWhen doing a server install, do I need to install things like soundcard/video drivers myself later when I want to install gnome?07:57
somerville32You must use apt-get07:57
somerville32Well, you might be able to use synaptic07:57
somerville32But the gnome update manager said it couldn't do it and I had to use apt-get07:57
somerville32so I just used apt-get07:57
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tcmjrok07:58
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_jasonubotu, tell tcmjr about breezy07:59
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sudhirhi I tried #alien -i file.rpm08:01
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sudhirbut cant see its deb file :(08:01
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sudhirdid I missed any setting08:02
B_166-ER-Xhaha08:02
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B_166-ER-Xxkill just freezed..08:02
tcmjrtks08:02
B_166-ER-Xhow funny08:02
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sudhirany yahoo chantut client for ubu08:03
B_166-ER-Xhow do i kill a  a frozen xkill window ?08:03
tehidiotwhen making an ISO out of files w/ mkisofs is there a command to compress it? because 7.8gb is too big08:03
beef_sprocketdoes anyone have cedega setup on amd64 chroot that can give me a hand?08:04
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dell500does anyone her eknow how to completely restore the ipod?08:05
willertHi, I am using Dapper (I know, thats my fault *g*) and since a few days my emacs21 fails to start in X-mode. The error message is <Undefined color: "#000000 "> I've since tried to downgrade every dependency of emacs, move all config-files away, grepped in all elisp files after suspicious commands, but to no avail. Can anyone help me to restore the one treu editor?08:06
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B_166-ER-Xmy call would say ; stick with breezy... but then, you know it ..08:06
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pixelmonkeyI just upgraded from hoary to breezy, and Nautilus has no icons for folders.  is this a common problem?08:07
NezzariWould someone please help me enable 3D acceleration? I can't seem to get it working. I have an Nvidia 6600GT card on Ubuntu 5.10 (64 bit)08:07
willertpixelmonkey: Try to reset your desktop theme08:07
Avikarhow do i set up a duale boot with a xp system... installing the linux on a third drive patition?08:07
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B_166-ER-XNezzari : jsut go get the new drivers..08:07
B_166-ER-Xmy nvidia driver update was like ,32 megs...worth it ..08:08
NezzariB_166-ER-X: I got the new drivers, 3d acceleration sin't enabled08:08
Nezzariisn't*08:08
B_166-ER-Xhm08:08
NezzariB_166-ER-X: I followed the ubuntu tutorial (the apt-get install nvidia-gtx thing)08:08
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B_166-ER-Xok then, i dont know... it worked for me  whitout problem, so :| cant help ya08:08
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B_166-ER-Xyeap, followed this too08:08
ghbDoes anyone know how to install Java Development Kit 1.5?08:09
NezzariI tried to compile the ones from Nvidia, but I got an error08:09
JRlinuxHow do I include myself as user of /dev/cdrom ?08:09
blankyguys does ubuntu have those scripts hwere it burns your whole system into an ISO so you can create a live cd from it?08:09
B_166-ER-Xthere is 2 way to install the nvidia drivers : follow the tutorial, or the nvidia site08:09
pixelmonkeywillert, thanks, that fixed it08:09
NezzariB_166-ER-X: I tried both ways08:09
B_166-ER-Xurgh :\08:09
willertpixelmonkey: np08:09
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majykis there a package for lighttpd? I can't seem to find one.08:10
NezzariI got a kernel-source / kernel-header error when I tried to compile my drivers08:11
Nezzaribut I'm pretty sure I have them08:11
pixelmonkeywow, did GTK+ get snappier in breezy?  Stuff feels a lot faster.08:11
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stdoubtyoohoo - is there a "DVD playback guru" in the house?08:12
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Iam8updvd r0x0r08:14
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khermans_what files are the Application menu entries stored in?08:15
stdoubtIam8up: yeah I like dvds too - wish i could play one08:15
khermans_you used to be able to say something like "applications:///"08:15
khermans_in nautilus08:15
Iam8upmedia player classic and videolan should be fine08:15
Iam8upvideolan is my favorite08:16
khermans_vlc is great08:16
seliniumstdoubt: what is the p;roblem?08:16
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Iam8upwinamp or videolan - everything else can die08:16
khermans_Anyone know where the .desktop entries are for things in the Applications -> Programming menu?08:16
Avikarcan some one help me with ainstall problem?08:16
stdoubtkhermans_: try applications:/// in konqueror08:16
khermans_stdoubt, i dont use knoqueror08:16
stdoubtoops nm ;] 08:16
khermans_lol08:16
stdoubtselinium: if you feel willing to help could you check my post here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=507037#post50703708:17
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seliniumstdoubt, looking...08:17
stdoubtwarning: it's a mystery08:17
sudhirany yahoo chat client for ubu08:17
blanky...gaim...08:18
blankyactually08:18
blankyI think they give yahoo for linux for download08:18
blankyif I'm not mistaken, so is AIM08:18
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sudhirnot yahoo messenger08:18
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Sedgewhat was the link for restricted formats?08:18
stdoubtselinium: thx for looking, it almost seems like a SONY DRM infection.......08:18
blankyI guess they used to then08:18
Elektrochelovek!dsl08:18
ubotusomebody said dsl was see pppoe, or damn small linux ( http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ )08:18
Sedge!restricted08:18
ubotusomebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats08:18
majykis there a planned backport of lighttpd?08:18
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sudhirany yahoo chat client for ubu , not messenger08:19
Elektrochelovek!pppoe08:19
uboturumour has it, pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE08:19
mlaHello08:19
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stdoubtheyhey08:19
khermans_Nobody knows where the Applications menu files are?!?!?08:19
seliniumstdoubt, Wow, I have no idea! You culd try in #linux if you cant get any help here  :)08:19
sudhirhi I tried #alien -i file.rpm08:20
sudhirbut cant see its deb file :(08:20
stdoubtselinium: k -thx for looking08:20
mlaWhere I can find xorg config for an alps touchpad ?08:20
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seliniumkhermans_, In what sense what do you want to do>08:20
selinium?08:20
khermans_mla, /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:20
khermans_selinium, I want to manually edit the entry rather than use the Menu Editor08:20
seliniumkhermans_, ome mo...08:21
khermans_?08:21
mlakhermans_, yes I know :D08:21
seliniumkhermans_, one moment08:21
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khermans_thx08:21
Sedge!nvidia08:21
ubotunvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736808:21
mlabut where I can find the config to configure alps touchpad in my xorg.conf08:22
mlaall alps touchpad have the same config ?08:22
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seliniumkhermans_, THey are kept in /usr/share/applications/    open one up, and you can workout the rest... :)08:23
khermans_selinium, i just noticed it there08:23
khermans_thnks dude08:23
seliniumkhermans_, No problems08:23
selinium:)08:23
pixelmonkeyI have another issue--I just upgraded to breezy and now CTRL+ALT+F{1,2,...6} don't work for switching between virtual terminals from Xorg08:23
nalarhi there i would like to know how firestarter can work well with samba since I've been trying to apply the policy with the inbound connection but none seems to be working..(I've been googling so far no solution)..any help would be great08:23
khermans_mla, what do you need to configure?08:23
khermans_is your touchpad not working?08:23
mlathe vertical scroll08:23
khermans_mla, that is a common problem -- of which there is no simple soluton08:24
mlayes, I understand08:24
khermans_mla, many people complain that there is no auto-setup of touchpad "scroll areas"08:24
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khermans_mla, anyways -- you need to define an area for your touchpad that is sensitive to scrolling08:25
mlabut I'ld like to know where I can find the value ?08:25
mlaor where I can get this value08:25
khermans_mla, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowto?highlight=%28touchpad%2908:26
mlathanks08:26
khermans_mla, i think they are VerticalScrollDelta and HorizontalScrollDelta08:26
mlayes08:26
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AlexGanacheCan someone assist me?08:28
AlexGanacheI am sorry, that was stupid to ask.08:28
AlexGanacheill get on with my question.08:28
seliniumAlexGanache, we wil try!08:28
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dell500lol08:28
AlexGanacheWhen I try and boot to the CD on my mac, it gives me a open firmware error of some sort.08:28
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stdoubtAlexGanache: you sure the CD is for PPC and not x86?08:29
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AlexGanacheyep.  Well unless when they shipped it they were stupid.. .lol08:30
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bulio|Laphow can I run a live cd without changing PC boot order?08:30
n0dlcafuego: eep! help! for somereason when i try to run sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop it says there is no package like that08:30
stdoubtAlexGanache 'stupid' does happen alot...08:30
AlexGanachelol08:30
n0dldoes anyone know the package for openbox?08:30
AlexGanacheI will go and restart, then I will come back with the error ok?08:31
jareth_n0dl: try openbox08:31
n0dlcafuego: are you there?08:31
cycomhey, I'm trying to mount a FAT32 partition so that my normal user can read and write to it.  I've got it set up to mount automatically through my /etc/fstab, but when I try to write to that folder, I get permission denied.  I then have to unmount it with sudo and remount it with my regular user for it to work.  How do I fix this08:31
khermans_mla, after talking with you -- i just realized mine works by default without these options!  Only the vertical scrolling works, but  dont even care about horizontal scrolling -- thanks for reminding me to check -- wow Ubuntu surprised me again!!!08:31
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n0dlcan anyone tell me how to install xfce from the base system?08:32
n0dlor better yet how to install openbox from base system?08:32
Marlunhow come "help > less" is not working? Should I not get the output of help int o less?08:32
khermans_n0dl, you know there is a distribution of Ubuntu called Xubuntu with XFCE4 by default?08:32
jareth_n0dl: do apt-get install openbox08:33
n0dljareth_: ok ill try08:33
n0dlbrb08:33
jareth_n0dl: oki :)08:33
johndarkhorseMarlun: use a pipe "help|less08:33
stdoubtcycom: can you post the device's line from your fstab?08:33
jareth_n0dl: for themes openbox-themes08:34
cycomstdoubt: if you like.08:34
Marlunjohndarkhorse: ah! thanks :)08:34
cycomstdoubt: /dev/sda5       /media/share    vfat    defaults,users  0       008:34
cycomstdoubt: I think I got it08:36
cycomthrow it a uid/gid and it should work08:36
stdoubtcycom: try adding     "exec,umask=000"   to the options section of that line and remove the word 'defaults'08:36
stdoubtahh k08:36
cycomstdoubt: I'll try both08:36
stdoubtcycom: back up the file 1st ;] 08:37
dino-how do i install nvidia drivers the -proper- way? ive seen 4 different guides, some is easy to understand but still dont work for me... can anyone guide me through this in private?08:40
somerville32!nvidia08:40
ubotuit has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736808:40
somerville32lol08:40
somerville32Seen those yet?08:40
Avikaris some one here able to help with a install issue? . . . . please08:41
somerville32State your issue08:41
stdoubtdino: the thing about Linux is there's not neccesarily a "proper" way......it lets you do one thing many ways - whatever works for the distro08:41
dino-somerville32: actually yeah...08:41
somerville32It should work dino08:42
somerville32What issues do you run into?08:42
stdoubtdino, start with whatever looks simplest and go from there08:42
dino-im a noobie... just reinstalled my ubuntu, it crashed when i was trying to install nvidia drivers on my own... just need some one to guide me through this so i dont fuck up again... :p08:42
somerville32dino: I've never installed nvidia drivers before08:42
stdoubtdino: if by "crash" you mean X didn't start when you rebooted? that don't mean it's fucked ;] 08:43
Avikari installed ubuntu or a 3rd partition of a sata drive.. attempting to set up a dual boot with my crrent Win XP.. it has installed as far as i can tell completely...now how ever when it reboots it Freezes or tells me portions are loading to fast and will be haulted for five minutes08:43
stdoubtdino: just probably means you need to change something in /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:43
somerville32Avikar: Wow... Say that again08:43
dino-seriously, if this is so simple, please just msg me ;/ been stuck with this for a long time, getting pretty fucked in my head by all the errors and thinking.. i got a clean ubuntu installed, and its safest if i dont do anything on my own, whatever the guide says :p08:45
stdoubtdino: you know how to change sources.list?08:46
Avikarumm... yeah.. its realy odd. i asume i have not installed properly or missed a setting  required for it to work.. the problem is, i have no idea what it is08:46
dino-stdoubt: no, i dont know linux at all.... :)08:46
stdoubtdino: oh my --well, you need to learn to use "apt-get" or at least "adept"08:47
stdoubtdino: FWIW, my nvidia 3d started working after installing 2 things:     nvidia-glx    and        nvidia-kernel-common08:47
sambagirli just do this apt-get install ardour08:48
sambagirland it starts and then says cannot find it08:48
sambagirli dont understand?08:48
dino-staaka: i got pci-e, any differnt from agp?08:49
dino-stdoubt i mean08:49
stdoubtdino: then you need to edit   /etc/X11/xorg.conf   so it refers to "nvidia" instead of "nv"08:49
stdoubtdino: then restart X (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace)08:50
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AlexGanacheSo I found out the error message of the open firmware08:51
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kassah__I just installed php and mysql in that order...08:53
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kassah__however php diddn't have the mysql config option enabled08:53
kassah__is there a way to fix that?08:53
Phuzionphp.ini08:54
Phuzionin /etc/php408:54
kassah__that'll change the ./confugure optinos?08:54
PhuzionYes08:54
kassah__neat08:54
PhuzionYou'll have to edit some parts of the file.08:54
PhuzionLemme see where you'll have to look.08:54
sambagirlis adour included in ubuntu?08:54
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bimberikassah__: There's some info here which might help - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP08:56
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Avikaris there a online instruction manual for setting up and  instaling ubuntu08:56
benplaut!wiki08:57
PhuzionI was just going to suggest the wiki08:57
benplauthold the chease, i'll brb08:57
kassah__nice!08:57
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AlexGanacheAm I the only one that is getting this weird memory error.08:58
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PhuzionWhat one?08:58
kassah__so... does anyone have a IBM T40 Thinkpad by chance that knows how to get the modem working?08:58
ElsanHas anyone hero successfully installed VMWare on 5.10?08:59
kassah__that would make my prep complete for going into the middle of nowhere08:59
bimberiAvikar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation08:59
PhuzionAlexGanache, what is the error message you're getting?08:59
vbgunzhello all, doess anyone know how to GPG sign all files in a directory with one swoop? Seahorse and Nautilus crash when I do it through the GUI and trying to figure it out on the command line is frustrating... I cannot find the wildcard option ... Anyone know how to sign all files in a given directory?08:59
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Phuzionvbgunz, try -r09:00
Phuzionrecursive09:00
vbgunzPhuzion: yeah, good idea, thanks, will try that now!09:00
PhuzionNot sure that it will work, but it works with RM amd MV, so it might work on other programs too.09:00
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n0dlhow do install openbox from the base system09:01
vbgunzPhuzion: sorry, -are is reserved with GPG for "recipients" :(09:01
AlexGanacheOn my mac, it wont load because I get a memory error n open firmware09:01
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n0dlhow do i install openbox from the base system?09:01
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Phuzionn0dl, don't repeat your question, wait for someone to answer it.09:02
vbgunzwhat the heck... I cannot do a dashletterR... it comes out dashARE... why?09:02
MikeStylehey guys how do i install w32 codecs, its not showing up in synaptic..?09:02
jareth_n0dl: do apt-get install openbox09:02
PhuzionDid you do "-R" or "-r"?09:02
jareth_n0dl: what happens?09:02
beef_sprocketMikeStyle: do you have universe and multiverse repositories?09:02
kassah__biberi: when following hte Wiki... I get09:02
n0dljareth: i did that and i get some error telling me the package doesnt work09:02
vbgunzPhuzion: I did -are09:02
kassah__E: Couldn't find package php4-mysql09:02
vbgunz:(09:02
MikeStylebeef_sprocket, i have no idea, how would i add them?09:02
PhuzionTry -r09:02
jareth_n0dl: what error?09:02
Phuzionor -R09:03
Phuzionn0dl:  sudo apt-get install openbox09:03
beef_sprocketyou can either change them through synaptic or gedit /etc/apt/sources.list09:03
smovbgunz: most likely spelling correction in your client.  I believe xchat corrects 'r' and 'u' by default?09:03
n0dlPhuzion: i do and it tells me that the package doesnt exsist!09:03
vbgunzPhuzion: thanks but no go, both are reserved for recipient :(09:03
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PhuzionAlright, I just did it, and it works.09:03
vbgunzsmo... thats an educated guess and better than mine :)09:03
jareth_n0dl: sudo apt-cache openbox09:04
jareth_n0dl: sudo apt-cache search openbox09:04
n0dlok09:04
jareth_n0dl: sorry09:04
n0dlok09:04
n0dllet me try09:04
n0dlbrb09:04
vbgunz-r09:04
bimberikassah__: it should be in there - in the universe repository09:04
beef_sprocketMikeStyle: see how it works?09:04
vbgunzsmo, thanks! hahaha09:04
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kassah__bimberi, ahh... I don't have universe09:05
seliniumkassah__, What is the problem/09:05
selinium?09:05
vbgunzPhuzion: you just did it? You signed a directory filled with files recursively using GPG?09:05
MikeStylebeef_sprocket...not really09:05
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kassah__selinium, there is no mysql.so on my machine09:05
jareth_n0dl: and?09:05
n0dljareth_: it didnt work09:05
n0dlnothing came up09:05
seliniumkassah, have you got any strange repos on your machine?09:05
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seliniumkassah_, have you got any strange repos on your machine?09:06
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Phuzionvbgunz:  --multifile09:06
jareth_n0ndl: activate universe and multiverse in tour repos09:06
kassah__default without universe09:06
kassah__just added universe now09:06
n0dlhow do i activate that09:06
seliniumok09:06
n0dlim in the base so i can exactly open synaptic09:06
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foampeacehi09:06
foampeacehow do i mount an iso?09:06
PhuzionTo emulate a CD/DVD drive?09:06
kassah__yep... the module is in the universe repository09:07
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jareth_n0ndl: System : Administration: Synaptic09:07
cy_hello09:07
vbgunzPhuzion: the return was: --sign does not yet work with --multifile :( I guess it isn't possible to recursively sign all files in a dir huh?09:07
cy_does ubuntu come with a default root password ? cant be ? .. you must set it at the installation ?09:07
seliniumn0dl, sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup && sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 -O /etc/apt/sorces.list     in a term09:07
Phuzionfoampeace:  mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso09:07
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n0dlsleinium: i type taht whole thing out?09:08
Phuzioncy_  everything root on Ubuntu is done through Sudo09:08
n0dlin one command line?09:08
seliniumn0dl, You using breezy ?09:08
Avikari am useing ver 5.04 what partition format should i use to install on?09:08
n0dlyes09:08
cy_Phuzion; so every user has root rights ? .....09:08
jareth_n0ndl: cpoy it in terminal09:08
seliniumThen yes09:08
PhuzionAvikar, it's up to you, but I'd suggest EXT209:08
foampeacePhuzion: thanks09:08
cy_Phuzion; a buddy of mine does not know the root password.... dont you set that when you install ubuntu ?09:08
PhuzionNo09:08
PhuzionYou don't.09:08
Avikarok i got that part rite then09:08
mjrAvikar, ext3 if you don't have a spesific reason not to09:08
smocy_: only those listed in /etc/sudoers (by default, the only the user created during install)09:08
PhuzionYou set the main user's part09:09
Phuzionpassword*09:09
n0dlselenium can you type that command again09:09
n0dlim using irssi09:09
n0dland i cant scroll up09:09
Phuzioncy_: No, not every user has root rights.09:09
cy_smo; without password prompting within sudo ?09:09
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seliniumn0dl,  >     sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup && sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 -O /etc/apt/sorces.list   <  in a term09:09
jareth_n0dl: shift page up09:09
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seliniumn0dl, the bit inbetween  >  <09:09
smocy_: they're prompted for their _own_ password (not a root password), but it's not every user .. just those listed there09:10
n0dlsleinium: ok imma try it now09:10
PhuzionIt is possible to make root an actual user that you can log in with, but it isn't recommended.09:10
seliniumn0dl, :)09:10
seliniumdamn...09:11
seliniumtypo in last sources.list09:11
PhuzionFix it :-)09:12
seliniumi cnat n0dl has left..09:12
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PhuzionOh.09:12
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tehidiotI have a 7.8gb iso file that I want to burn to a 4.7gb dvd, is it possible?09:12
seliniumwill wiat and fix.. :)09:12
tehidiotthe files that are in the iso are ripped from a dvd to begin with09:12
seliniumtehidiot, nope09:12
Phuziontehidiot:  Not without defying the laws of mathematics.09:13
tehidiotselinium why not?09:13
GreenskyI'm trying to run amarok using alsa so I can duplex sounds, but sound skips when I do that, does anyone have any idea how I might be able to fix that?09:13
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n0dlok i did the command now what?09:13
tehidiotEverytime I rip a DVD it comes out to be 7.8gb, but in windows its only 4gbs09:13
seliniumtehidiot, bacause the DVD manufacurers have access to larger DVD formats than us mere moprtals09:13
smotehidiot: the hole needs to be atleast as big as the peg, else you're just gonna make a lot of noise. (note that not all DVD are 4.7Gb .. dual layer will give you 8.something however)09:13
seliniums/moprtals/mortals09:13
Phuzionselinium:  not true09:13
n0dlselinium: now what?09:13
PhuzionYou can buy a dual-layer burner09:14
tehidiotsmo, its not a duallayer dvd though09:14
tehidiotits a regular dvd09:14
tehidiotand i have a dual layer burner.09:14
seliniumn0dl09:14
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n0dlselinium: yeah?09:14
tehidiotIts a regular DVD when I rip in linux its 7.8gb, in windows its 4gb09:14
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PhuzionSure you're using the same ripping method?09:14
seliniumn0dl, Right first the command you used had a typo at the end... Can we pm?09:14
tehidiotno I am not sure.09:14
rockzmy amarok dont open... see the error when i run amarok in terminal: http://ubuntu.linuxval.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=180409:14
tehidiotIn windows I'm using DVDShrink, in linux im using vobcopy09:15
n0dlseliniumL oh crap09:15
n0dlselinium: go ahead and pm09:15
seliniumn0dl, no problem at all!09:15
stpereDVDShrink : that name imply some shrinking, no?09:15
smotehidiot.  shrink and copy are verbs.  Take a guess at why one gives a larger result than the other?09:15
tehidiotI know that.09:15
tehidiotcan I shrink in linux though.09:16
Phuziontehidiot, I'm assuming that your Windows program is compressing it somehow.09:16
tehidioti'd assume that also.09:16
tehidiotnow what should I do -_-09:16
stperetehidiot, it's probably removing the sound tracks it doesn't (other langages)09:16
stpere+need09:16
smotranscode and mencoder should both be capable.  the commands needed to do so are akin to black magic however.  Google is always a good start - find someone else that's already done the hard work09:17
Phuzionstpere:  not to mention subtitles, extra angles, and extra features.09:17
tehidiotWell09:17
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tehidiotno way to identify them09:17
Phuziontehidiot, when you burn a DVD with DVDShrink, does it go straight to the movie, or do you have a menu?09:18
tehidiotHow about making an ISO is there anyway to shrink it09:18
tehidiotbecause I have the files on my comp, I need to mkisofs09:18
tehidiotand I wonder if I can shrink the ISO to 4.709:18
tehidiotPhuzion, I have everything - its the same copy of the DVD09:18
tehidiotif I use DVDShrink09:18
PhuzionHave you tried checking other languages and such?09:18
tehidiotYeah09:19
PhuzionHmmm09:19
PhuzionThen it sounds like some type of compression, or a different method of ripping09:19
tehidiotI would use DVDShrink in Linux but they don't make wine for the amd64 binary09:19
tehidiotWell is there anyway to compress the files in LInux?09:19
tehidioti have the files on a drive.09:19
smoPhuzion: Generally just transcoding to a lower bitrate09:19
Avikarcould the fact i am running a 64 bit amd system cause a fault or error while loading ubuntu ver 5.04?09:20
PhuzionDoubt it.09:21
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kemik!printing09:21
ubotuprinting is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org09:21
kemik!cups09:21
ubotuNo idea, kemik09:21
jefletchertehidiot: isnt cedega 64bit?09:21
tehidiotno09:21
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jefletcher=[09:21
Red-Soxopen office eats up my cpu and takes for ever to load, is this normal?09:22
purplefeltangeli just installed kde-desktop...how do i get rid of some of the KDE programs that i don't want? it keeps saying "other applications depend on this one" or osmething....09:22
PhuzionRed-Sox, do you have a respectable processor, and a good amount of RAM?09:22
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Red-SoxPhazeman, pentium 4....25609:22
PhuzionHmm09:22
Red-SoxPhazeman, im waiting about 20 seconds for it to load09:23
PhuzionAre you running a million programs while opening open-office?09:23
n0dlselenium?09:23
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n0dl*selinium?09:23
sunkahi, i just tried to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy and when my computer rebooted, the Xserver failed to load and i'm stuck in console mode...any help? please?09:23
Pablostartx09:24
Pablo?09:24
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yatesyfind out why it failed and edit xorg.conf ?09:24
foampeacewhats the recommended ubuntu firewall09:24
ficusplanetHey everyone.  What package contains dhclient?09:24
yatesyfoampeace: iptables09:24
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Phuzionsunka, try X {enter}09:24
Phuzionfoampeace:  Your router.09:24
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sunkait's mainly telling me it's a font issue (can't find them) i apt-get'd to remove x-widow-system and ubuntu-desktop then reinstalled...09:25
mikestylehey uhm i edited my xorg.config file to enable transparency/shadows and i restarted kde and now i have this msg coming up...again:Composite extension not found09:25
mikestyleYou must use XOrg  6.8 for translucency and shadows to work.09:25
mikestyleAdditionally, you need to add a new section to your X config file:09:25
mikestyleSection "Extensions"09:25
mikestyleOption "Composite" "Enable"09:25
mikestyleEndSection09:25
Phuzionficusplanet:  dhcdbd looks like it has it.09:25
sunkai also get errros on startup about shpchp module not loading09:25
yatesymikestyle: don't paste stuff09:25
topyliRed-Sox: 20 seconds is about what i get on my duron 900 with 256 RAM. yes, it sucks09:25
tritiumsunka: which video card do you have?09:25
mikestylesorry but do u noe wuts wrong?09:25
smoodd, I find it in dhcp3-client  (dpkg -S /sbin/dhclient)09:25
tritiumsmo: it's in either09:26
sunkait's a voodoo3, i believe, and all the 3dfx drivers seem to be fine in the log.  it looks like all the fatal errors are coming from fonts09:26
ficusplanetsmo, You're right.  Phuzion, dhcdbd isn't even in main, so it can't contain dhclient.09:26
mikestyle....09:26
Phuzionficusplanet:  sorry.09:26
tritiumsunka: you're looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?09:27
topylifoampeace: easiest may be if you install and run firestarter. why do you need a firewall?09:27
foampeacetopyli: dont know if i need one yet09:27
ficusplanetPhuzion, No problem.  I was confused by it, too.  Thanks.09:27
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bolshhi09:28
sunkalet me open that log, but i'm talking about when I run startx or gdm it pops up some errors...."could not open default font 'fixed'"09:28
topylifoampeace: by default, an ubuntu installation doesn't listen to any ports, and no service is open to the evil internet09:28
bolshStuck on a couple of small issues with Ubuntu PPC09:28
tritiumsunka: that's not a critical error, thogh09:28
tritiumthough09:28
mikestylecan anyone help?09:28
gfishhow do i print on a networked printer09:28
bolshHow can I get a pop=up menu with a one=button mouse?09:28
topylifoampeace: if you build a more complicated server setup, then you might waht to think about firewalls09:28
bolshOpt=click doesn't work09:28
bolshoh, and the keymap's not perfect :)09:29
tritiummikestyle: what you pasted looks like pretty easy to follow instructions09:29
tritium(and please don't paste)09:29
purplefeltangelbolsh: does holding down the mousebutton work?09:29
bolshpurplefeltangel, No09:29
mikestylemy xorg.conf is edited to contain that AND my xorg is 6.8.209:29
tritiumbolsh: are you on ppc?09:29
bolshtritium, yup09:29
tritiumbolsh: I believe F12-click should do it09:30
bolshtritium, F12 on its own09:30
bolshHarly obvious, though :)09:30
mikestyletritium, my xorg.conf is edited to contain that AND my xorg is 6.8.209:30
tritiumbolsh: something like that ;)09:30
purplefeltangeli just installed kde-desktop...how do i get rid of some of the KDE programs that i don't want? it keeps saying "other applications depend on this one" or osmething....09:30
somerville32!gcc09:30
ubotugcc is probably the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.09:30
somerville32!compile09:30
ubotuI heard compile is Go and read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall. tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand.  Also, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConfigureMakeMakeInstall.  Ask me about <compiling>09:30
tritiummikestyle: beyond that, can't tell you much09:31
somerville32!compiler09:31
ubotusomerville32: I give up, what is it?09:31
bolshIs there a PPC FAQ that I can consult to avoid annoying ye?09:31
smopurplefeltangel: kde-desktop is a metapackage .. it depends on a whole bunch of pkgs so that you can install kde-desktop and pull them all in as dependencies.  if you remove a package, and it wants to remove kde-desktop also, that's not a problem (it'll remove kde-desktop, but not all the deps it installed).  if it wants to remove other things, then you have to stop and think09:31
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bolsh(things like: how can I get at my hfs partitions)09:31
purplefeltangelsmo: uhhhhh.....you lost me at "metapackage"09:31
topylihehe09:32
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purplefeltangelsmo, PM?09:32
ClayGwhat is a good c compiler to use?09:32
tritiumbolsh: you can search the wiki, including the UserDocumentation page09:32
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ClayGI am trying to compile something and i get:09:32
ClayGconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH09:32
ClayGSee `config.log' for more details.09:32
vbgunzhow do I turn a text file with the .sh extension into an executable?09:32
smopurplefeltangel: a metapackage installs nothing particularly useful .. it simply depends on things that are useful .. it's a convenience thing09:32
n0dlhow do i startx from base?09:32
tritiumClayG: sudo apt-get install build-essential09:32
slideHow would i install quake3?09:32
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topylipurplefeltangel: let' try it this way: uninstalling kde-desktop is ok because it contains no software at all. that's why it's called a metapackage, it contains only dependencies to other packages that kde users might like09:33
tritiumvbgunz: chmod +x file.sh09:33
Red-Soxo09:33
purplefeltangelsmo, okay, if i'm in "add applications," and i want to uninstall, say, Konqueror, it tells me "cannot uninstall because other applications depend on this one"... if i uninstall that, is it going to screw something up, and if not, how do i go about uninstalling that?09:33
n0dli installed the base system and just finished installing openbox09:33
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n0dlhow would i start the openbox gui?09:33
smopurplefeltangel, in that case, they probably really do need konqueror .. just about any KDE app that wants to render html will use it09:33
ClayGtritium thanks, ALOT09:34
ficusplanetHey everyone.  So, gthumb has the --import-photos to start up with the import dialog automatically.  Does f-spot have a similar option?09:34
tritiumn0dl: no display manager installed?09:34
pixelmonkeyI just upgraded from hoary to breezy and am working out some kinks.  Does anyone know why VT switching (CTRL+ALT+F*) doesn't work?09:34
tritiumClayG: :)09:34
purplefeltangelsmo, i dont actually want to uninstall konqueror; it was just the only KDE application ic ould think of09:34
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D1does anyone use envolution?09:34
Xcerca_n0dl what is openbox for ?09:34
topylipurplefeltangel: konqueror is a pretty central piece of kde, so it might just lead you to uninstalling most of kde09:34
ClayGgettingthis09:34
n0dltritium: Cant you use openbox alone?09:34
tritiumpixelmonkey: it works.  Something must be wrong on your machine09:34
purplefeltangelsmo: what about something like the KDE bluetooth thing?09:34
n0dltritium: as a display manager?09:34
ClayGchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!09:34
tritiumn0dl: I would suspect that you can09:34
sunkawell, i'm going to try reinstalling hoary, cause the only issues the log shows me only the font errors09:35
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n0dltritium: how do i start X then?09:35
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n0dltritium: in the base system09:35
tritiumClayG: you need xlibs-dev09:35
witlesswhat scripts control the detection and mounting of usb storage on the gnome desktop?09:35
tritiumn0dl: most people use a display manager.  You can't startx?09:35
n0dlno09:35
topylipurplefeltangel: not much should depend on that, so you can easily remove it if you don't need it. anyway, apt always warns you when something is about to be removed, so you'll have no unpleasasnt surprises09:35
n0dltritium: no i cat start x09:36
Pegasos989How can I set a screensaver that shows images from a certain folder as slideshow?09:36
n0dltritium: should i just get xfce then try and start x?09:36
bolshnot found09:36
dino-what do i need to play BATTLEFIELD 2, Far Cry and other 3d games on ubuntu? :)09:36
purplefeltangeloh, sorry topyli, i thought i was still talking to smo. neway, but, will i have to go to package manager to do that? :/09:36
tritiumn0dl: what errors do you get when trying "startx"?09:36
topylipurplefeltangel: you can use apt on a terminal too09:36
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holy_cowgah!09:37
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holy_cowthe goddamned gnome panels STILL shuffle icons around09:37
holy_cow*grrrr*09:37
topylipurplefeltangel: or wajig like i do :)09:37
purplefeltangeltopyli, i have no idea what that is. :D09:37
tritiumholy_cow: please calm down09:37
n0dltritium:it says the command does not exsist09:38
topylipurplefeltangel: apt? or wajig? everybody must learn apt. wajig is just an addon09:38
bolshanyway, night all09:38
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n0dltritium: what exactly is the command to start X?09:38
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ClayGanyone get k9copy installed?09:38
Pegasos989startx :D09:38
ClayGon ubuntu?09:38
Xcerca_"startx"09:38
ClayGgetting stuck in the "make" part09:38
tritiumClayG: did you install xlibs-dev?09:38
n0dlXcerca_: i tried taht09:39
ClayGnoirequus, doing that now09:39
ClayGer4z0r, sorry i mena no im doing that now09:39
purplefeltangeltopyli, i dont know how to use apt D:09:39
n0dltritium: do you know the command?09:39
tritiumn0dl: it's startx09:39
ClayGjust installed it but make is still not producing any results09:39
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tritiumClayG: what is it doing?09:40
topylipurplefeltangel: you need a good web link. hold on :)09:40
ClayGwait09:40
n0dltritium: hmm... why doesnt it work... are there certain packages i must ahve to start x?09:40
tritiumn0dl: sounds like you are missing the package that contains it09:40
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ClayGhmm i closed the terminal then reopened it and did ./configure again09:40
n0dltritium: hold on brb i have to eat lunch09:40
ClayGalot more output09:40
ClayGthis may work09:40
tritiumn0dl: yes, there are.  I don't know what you installed09:40
ClayGclay@oldman:~/Desktop/k9copy-1.0.0$ make09:40
ClayGmake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.clay@oldman:~/Desktop/k9copy-1.0.0$09:40
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n0dltritium: what packages do i need?09:40
Pegasos989Is there a tool in ubunto for turning all images in a folder to a screensaver, or do I need some third party software? :/09:41
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pixelmonkeytritium, sorry, I know it works, because chvt works, but the actual hotkeys don't work09:41
topylipurplefeltangel: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html . don't get confused, it's very exhaustive and tells you _everything_. you just need the basics09:41
tritiumn0dl: I'm not on a linux box right now, so I can't double-check for you.09:41
n0dldang09:41
tritiumpixelmonkey: what are you referring to?09:41
purplefeltangeltopyli: it looks big and imposing. O.O;;09:41
pixelmonkeytritium, VT switching with CTRL+ALT+F* not working09:42
ficusplanetPegasos989, Select GLSlideshow as your screensaver and choose the folder you want to use in the "Advanced" tab.09:42
tritiumn0dl: I take it you don't want gnome installed on your machine?  installing ubuntu-desktop would work.  if you want xfce, you can install xubuntu-desktop09:42
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Pegasos989okay, thanks, ficusplanet09:42
tritiumpixelmonkey: that's bizarre09:42
ficusplanetPegasos989, No problem.09:42
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ClayGdoes putting ./ infront of a file name just mean "execute this"?09:42
ClayGlike a temp a+x change?09:42
pixelmonkeytritium, maybe I'll head to #xorg, it might be better answered ther09:43
tritiumClayG: are you in the directory containing a Makefile??09:43
jack-dont confuse him..09:43
tritiumpixelmonkey: I've never heard of that before09:43
jack-ClayG, its just because the current dir isnt in the default path09:43
baddersClayG: ./ just means current directory, your current directory isnt in PATH09:44
jack-so you need to specify the location09:44
jack-..d'oh09:44
topylipurplefeltangel: note that the graphical package manager in ubuntu is basically the same thing. sometimes it's just quicker and easier to talk to unix-like systems on the command line09:44
jack-guess i shouldnt answer random questions here, way too much activity :p09:44
ClayGahh so ./ ignores PATH and uses what is in your cwd?09:44
ClayGer pwd?09:44
ClayGlol09:44
jack-. IS the current dir09:45
jack-./lalala = $currentdir/lalala09:45
tritiumClayG: but back to your original problem, is there a makefile in that directory?09:45
ClayGyes09:45
ClayGmakefile.in/cvs/am09:46
ClayGthree09:46
ClayGdont know which is considered "a makefile"09:46
jack-thats not a makefile09:46
tehidiotAnyone here use a 32 bit chroot?09:46
jack-those are autoconf prototypes09:46
tritiumClayG: no, you need to run ./configure first09:46
jack-you'll want to run automake09:46
ClayGi did09:46
ClayGgot alot of output , one error09:46
tritiumwhich was?09:46
ClayGchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers  and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!09:47
Red-Soxhow do you unzip files?09:47
ClayGlemme install that and see if it works09:47
tritiumyou need another dev library, ClayG09:47
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tritiumClayG: I need to get going...09:48
ClayGqt3-dev-tools?09:48
ClayGwell thanks for the help tritium take care09:48
slideIs there a package for quake3? or do i just download the bin and run that?09:48
ClayGEnjoy what's left of the weekend09:48
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tritiumYou too, ClayG...09:48
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tehidiotAnyone here use a 32 bit chroot?09:51
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ColD_7i am having problem with the flash sound09:53
tehidiotAnyone here use an AMD64 with a 32 bit chroot09:54
ColD_7i can configure it to have sound but it always become no sound after somewhile09:54
SlackwiseIs there any way I can get the ubuntu gnome theme as a proper theme package? :P09:56
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fetmanhow do I make amarok play flac?09:56
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Red-Soxwhen you unzip something, where does it go?09:59
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somerville32Your cef09:59
somerville32*cwf09:59
Loevborgthis "unregged" stuff ain't working right10:00
Red-Soxsomerville32, cef?10:00
Red-Soxsomerville32, cwf* lol10:00
ltlRed-Sox - into your current [pwd]  directory.10:00
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Red-Soxltl: still above my head10:01
LoevborgI have my nickserv password typed into x-chat, still it kicks me to #ubuntu-unregged10:01
ompaulLoevborg, server lag?10:01
fetmanRed-Sox: Current working directory10:01
Red-Soxwhere is it?10:01
Loevborgompaul, I guess10:01
fetman....10:01
Red-Soxhome folder?10:01
dino-am i at ubuntu unregged now? :p10:01
ompaulLoevborg, I have mine in there and in server and today it kicked me back10:01
ompauldino-, no10:01
dino-good10:01
navaroneme too Loev10:01
Red-Soxokay, maybe I did something wrong, how do  you unzip a file?10:01
ltlRed-Sox - unzip file10:02
somerville32unzip <file>10:02
navaronei do it cautiosly...but that just me...lol10:02
ltlRed-Sox - tar -zxvf file.tar.gz10:02
benplautis there any way to make a non-maximised panel *NOT* snap to corner? there's about a 20 pixel barrier before each corner that it will snap, and no way to change it10:03
fetmanhow do I make amarok play flac?10:03
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Loevborgfetman, the gstreamer backend probably can play it10:03
Loevborgfetman, it seems reasonable to me that it can, provided you install the plugin10:04
fetmanLoevborg: plugin to gstreamer for flac, or plugin for amarok?10:05
dino-what prog do i need to play battlefield2?10:05
AgrajagWindows10:05
sambagirlhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/X2pVwa51.html10:05
somerville32wine ?10:05
Loevborgfetman, for gstreamer10:05
sambagirli need help with this please10:05
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somerville32sambagirl: State your issue10:06
dino-not wine, i've heard about something faster and smoother10:06
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fetmanLoevborg: hmm, it just stops playing when I select the gstreamer engine..10:06
Loevborgfetman, "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-flac amarok-gstreamer" should fix it10:06
fetmanLoevborg: ok!10:06
NCLifeif i have kubuntu and want to install ubuntu-desktop, does it includes all the main progamms as if it is a complete install? with gaim, etc..10:07
LjLNCLife: yes10:07
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NCLifeand will i be able to switcht from kubuntu to ubuntu at start up? :o10:07
LjLNCLife: not at startup, but at the X login screen10:07
somerville32NClife, no at login10:08
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paohi all :-)10:08
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LjLNCLife: and there's nothing really to "switch", as you'll have programs from both environments listed in your menu, and you'll be able to load Gnome and KDE programs from either10:08
LjLNCLife: you'll just decide whether to load Gnome or KDE10:08
NCLifeoh, sounds good :)10:09
NCLifeoh, thanks.. and to install the ubuntu-desktop what must i do? sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and nothing else? :o10:09
paodoes anyone experienced a bug that just seems to run the desktopo SLOWLY eating 100% cpu?10:09
LjLsudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop, i would suggest10:09
sambagirlahh us mirror is broken or ran out of disk space10:09
Stormx2what is GDM?10:09
LjLNCLife: since, in case you ever want to remove it, you'll be able to, without hunting down every single package10:09
paoit is trigger sometime when I scroll gtk apps... such as openoffice...10:09
somerville32The gnome display manager10:09
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paoit's really strange...10:10
NCLifeokay, and after doing this sudo command i will have it automaticly all set up?10:10
paoI thought it was due to Xorg...10:10
NCLifethe ubuntu-desktop10:10
LjLNCLife: yes, actually, it will ask one or two questions to you10:10
paobut I switched to NoAccell with no appreciable results :-(10:10
LjLNCLife: for instance, whether to load GDM or KDM as your login manager10:10
sunsun/window 110:11
NCLifeokay, sounds easy :D10:11
LjLNCLife: it is10:11
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NCLifei have to open the universe repository first, right?10:11
Stormx2OK, How do I install a metacity theme?10:12
NCLifeor multiverse..10:12
LjLNCLife: the only really "difficult" thing with having both installed is that you won't clearly distinguish which apps are Gnome and which apps are KDE from the menu10:12
ArchiteIs anyone able to spell check in OpenOffice using AMD64?10:12
LjLNCLife: no, you don't, as ubuntu-desktop only requires packages from main10:12
LjLNCLife: even though enabling universe is probably a good idea anyway10:12
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Architespell checking from the command line works fine, but OO does nothing.10:13
NCLifeokayz, i tried to enable it yesterday, but i got confused because the instructions to enable are for synaptic which i dont have since im using kubuntu right now10:13
LjLNCLife: edit /etc/apt/sources.list directly10:13
LjL!tell NCLife about sources10:14
LjLyou could use source-o-matic10:14
NCLifeoh, so i only have to put this code into the box?10:14
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ompaulArchite, sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-help-en << might help you10:15
gnomefreakkubuntu still has synaptic10:15
Architeompaul: I know how to use OO10:15
LjLNCLife: i'm not sure what you mean, but what you have to do is, basically, add one or more lines to the /etc/apt/sources.list file10:15
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gnomefreaksynaptic is Debians package manager10:15
LjLNCLife: for example, my line for Universe is "deb http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe"10:15
gfishhow do i print from a printer on the network10:15
LjLNCLife: that's from an Italian mirror though, it might not be very fast for you10:15
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LjLNCLife: but simply adding "universe" to the list of things ("breezy main restricted", probably) in the main line of your sources.list should work10:16
gnomefreakgfish,  do you have the routers ip address?10:16
n0dlwhat packages do i need to start X10:16
gfishyep10:17
NCLifeoh, um.. how can i find that sources.list :p10:17
ArchiteFuck it, I'll just use Abiword for now and trash the Ubuntu install afterwards. Back to debian I guess.10:17
ompaulArchite, what I am suggesting is that there may be parts missing - like the one I mentioned and this one >>  openoffice.org-l10n-en  << assuming you are using the language englishy10:17
gnomefreakn0dl, ubuntu starts X automatically unless you do server install10:17
gfishgnomefreak>yeah10:17
n0dlgnomefreak: i did10:17
ompaulArchite, language is not really required10:17
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zell1983hi10:17
Architeompaul: I got just about everything installed. Kinda weird though10:17
zell1983I want to add a new user10:17
n0dlgnomefreak: which packages do i need to run X do you know?10:17
zell1983with sudo privilege10:17
Architeompaul: I guess just one more issue with a 32-bit prog and a 64-bit system10:17
ompaulArchite, there is a tab that you use for adding in that10:18
zell1983how can I do this?10:18
LjLNCLife: it's in /etc/apt10:18
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LjLNCLife: do "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"10:18
SlackwiseHonestly, where can I get the official ubuntu theme as a standard theme package?10:18
gnomefreakgfish,  use cups and when it asks local or network printer use network for the pc that does not have printer hooked up and use the ipaddress where it asks you for host make sure the printer pc is set to local printing10:18
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NCLifeoh, okay okay :) thaks10:18
zell1983I want to add a new user with sudo privilege, how can I do this?10:18
LjLNCLife: no, actually, you don't have gedit i suppose since you don't have gnome, so make it "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list"10:18
ompaulArchite, if you give me a min I will find you something that you may not be aware of10:18
gnomefreakn0dl, what kind of install for ubuntu did you do?10:18
n0dlgnomefreak: server10:19
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NCLifeand what should do that?10:19
mustard5zell1983, on gnome?10:19
zell1983mustard5, yes10:19
gnomefreakn0dl, you see a command line?10:19
n0dlgnomefreak: i wanted ubuntu clean install with openbox10:19
LjLNCLife: make you edit the file of course10:19
jabbahutCan someone please direct me to a "working" set of repositories for Breezy.10:19
n0dlgnomfreak: yeah10:19
Architeompaul: thanks10:19
LjLNCLife: or "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list", for a textmode editor10:19
mustard5zell1983, System>>Administration>>Users  add the user and check his privileges10:19
NCLifeokayz, ill do that10:19
zell1983mustard5, you mean same group of the other user?10:20
gnomefreaksudo apt-get install openbox i think thats the right command i dont use openbox but that looks right10:20
zell1983I'll check10:20
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n0dlgnomefreak: i did that but when i run startx it tells me10:20
gnomefreakim not sure if there is an openbox-desktop10:20
n0dlthe command is not fount10:20
n0dl*found10:20
ompaulArchite, tools -> options -> language -> settings languages  << that used to catch me out10:20
mustard5zell1983, well it depends how you have admin setup...you can look in your /etc/sudoers file to see that...whether you have an %admin group or sudoers are listed by username10:21
gnomefreakompaul, is openbox gdm or odm?10:21
zell1983oh ok thanks mustard510:21
Architeompaul: That's all set up correctly, unfortunitely.10:21
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mustard5zell1983, in my etc/sudoers I am listed as a user...but some people have %admin which means that you need to add that person to the admin group10:21
ompaulgnomefreak, no idea10:21
gfishgnomefreak> can u explain in more detail private10:22
ompaulArchite, well then I have no idea10:22
zell1983mustard5, ok It works ;)10:22
zell1983thanks a lot10:22
mustard5zell1983, k10:22
n0dlompaul: do you know if blackbox or fluxbox is odm or gdm10:22
Dceptic0nHow do I manage the firewall? I get messages that certain ports are blocked...10:22
n0dlgnomefreak: have no idea of why it doesnt work?10:22
Architeompaul: thanks though. This one of the few reasons I hate Ubuntu, you know?10:22
gnomefreakgfish,  i dont do private messages but try  "start gdm10:23
gnomefreak"10:23
ompaulArchite, you do have to add the spell data as I showed in that last thing but you reckon you  have your stuff installed .. so no idea where to go from there10:23
n0dlgnomefreak: so i try start gdm10:23
n0dl>10:23
n0dl*?10:23
gnomefreakyes try that10:23
n0dlok10:23
Architeompaul: I already installed it all, thinking that was the issue10:23
gfishgnomefreak> im a noob i only installed linux yesterday whats gdm?10:23
n0dlthe command is not found10:23
ArchiteI don't know. I will play with it some more when I have time. For now, Abiword will work.10:24
jabbahutCan someone who is using Breezy send me your sources.list or tell me where to get one that works please.10:24
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gnomefreakgdm=gnome desktop manager10:24
ompaulArchite, so i noted but I once I do those things it works so there is no additional info I can give you10:24
gnomefreakkdm is kde desktop manager10:24
gfishgnomefreak>how do i do that10:24
Architeompaul: Thanks again ;)10:24
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gnomefreakgfish as user not sudo type start gdm10:24
ompauln0dl, why did you assume I would know, it is better to ask the channel cos I might not answer as I don't know, so ifyou have a question ask the channel not a person at random gives a higher chance of success10:25
gnomefreaki think :(10:25
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gfishgnomefreak>where do i do this10:25
gnomefreakompaul,  i asked you sir10:25
gnomefreakgfish command line10:25
gfishok10:26
ompaulgnomefreak, after saying no to you I got a longer version of a very similar question from n0dl10:26
gnomefreakoh sorry i missed that10:26
ompaulgnomefreak, :-)10:26
gnomefreak:)10:26
gfishgnomefreak> i opened terminal and typed start gdm n it said command not recognised10:26
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tsumehey, the little gansta kid isn't on the mainscreen anymore10:27
gnomefreakgfish are you sure its installed?10:27
gfishgnomefreak>no im not10:27
fmasihi i like to know a program equivalent to Microsoft Vision for ubuntu10:27
gnomefreakgfish at command line as user type "start openbox" without the quotes see if that works10:27
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gnomefreakgfish: run sudo apt-get install openbox10:28
slideHow do i mount a floppy? Do i have to use the command line?10:28
ompaulfmasi, what function does that program provide?10:28
n0dlslide: try mount dev10:28
sliden0dl, huh?10:28
fmasiompaul it creates ditagrams of computer networks you know when the shouw the structure of a network etc...10:29
gfishgnomefreak>done that10:29
gfishand installed10:29
n0dlslide: try mount /dev in term10:29
slideyou mean, mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy ?10:29
ompaulfmasi, have a look at a program called 'dia'10:29
fmasii took a fast look but dident find the predone icones etc... that vision have10:30
fmasii ead the images of switches etc...10:30
gnomefreakim wondering gfish is there areason why you want only openbox?10:30
gnomefreakopenbox isnt all the noob freindly :(10:31
ompaulfmasi, so click on assorted10:31
Stormx2openbox?10:31
Stormx2!openbox10:31
ubotuStormx2: Did you get hit by a windmill?10:31
Stormx2:(10:31
gfishgnomefreak>im only wanting ro be able to print off a printer on the network10:31
gnomefreaklol Stormx210:31
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gnomefreakgfish,  without a grafical desktop what do you plan on printing?10:32
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gnomefreaki dont think a server install will even give you a text browser without you choosing one10:32
fmasiompaul in asourted the is not the thing i nead10:32
gfishgnomefreak> i only want to print documents10:32
Stormx2gnomefreak: You can print text without a desktop10:33
gnomefreakgfish,  a server install isnt gonna help you print server install is more for like running a webserver10:33
gfishok10:33
gnomefreakStormx2,  yes i know that but my point is that if he doesnt have anything on screen to print its usless10:33
gnomefreakgfish: run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:34
gfishgnomefreak> i want to be able to print a text document i create in open ofice on a printer on my network10:34
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gnomefreakgfish,  a desktop isnt gonna stop you from printing a text doc or for open office10:35
ompaulfmasi, maybe you can draw a something and stick in there http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2001/02/15/LinuxAdmin.html << this may also be useful10:36
gnomefreaki have 4 different desktops and i print just fine10:36
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gnomefreaktext or grafical10:36
fmasiompaul thx10:36
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gfishgnomefreak>text10:36
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gnomefreakgfish,  i can print text just fine with 4 desktops installed10:37
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fmasiompaul gona see that i come backlater hx for the help bybby10:37
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gfishgnomefreak> i dont understand what u want me to do10:38
Dceptic0nHow do I manage the firewall? I get messages that certain ports are blocked...10:38
witlesses the gnome shell properly escape/quote arguments when copying from an sftp:// folder to a local folder?  i'm getting errors when the filename contains a colon...10:38
witlessdoes the gnome shell properly escape/quote arguments when copying from an sftp:// folder to a local folder?  i'm getting errors when the filename contains a colon...10:39
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gnomefreakgfish,  you neeed to tell me what you want on your pc and what you dont want10:39
n0dlis groverain in yet?10:39
gfishgnomefreak> the only thing i want to do is to print my documents i create on open office on the printer which is in the next room10:40
gnomefreakgfish: why did you do a server install?10:40
misfit_toywhat's the best package to use for joining .avi files together?10:40
gfishgnomefreak> i didnt10:40
misfit_toycat file1 file2 > file3 takes FOREVER10:41
misfit_toyso there has to be a good package for this, avidemux maybe?10:41
misfit_toyjust looking for opinions10:41
gnomefreakok confused sorry gfish  ok do you have cups installed?10:42
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gfishgnomefreak> how can i tell10:42
gnomefreakgfish, system than printing10:43
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knubbeanyone who can tell my why my firefox always use utf-8? even though i have iso 8859-1 as default in my settings10:43
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gfishgnomefreak>ok im that far10:44
gnomefreakgfish after clicking system tna clicking printing do you see a brownish color screen?10:44
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Stormx2How do I reload the fonts list10:45
Stormx2I just added a new font10:45
EspThoi have a new 5.10 install but i can't get on the internet.. i have configured it to static ip and i have specified the DNS server.. but it isn't workning10:45
muephow do I add a new ethernet card to the system?10:45
EspThoany takers ? :p10:45
gfishgnomefreak> i see a printer which says add printer10:45
gnomefreakgfish, click on printer than new peinter10:45
muepI have it physically in place but ubuntu refuses to notice10:45
Stormx2EspTho: You've configured the gateway, etc?10:45
gfishgnomefreak>ok10:46
Stormx2muep: System > Administration > Networking10:46
gnomefreakgfish, where it says printer type click network printer10:46
muepit is a card that I think should function with via-rhine module10:46
gfishdone that10:46
muepStormx2, it isn't there10:46
EspThoStormx2, yeah.. it looks like it finds the router..10:46
gfishgnomefreak>done that10:46
Stormx2Reload fonts?10:46
EspThoStormx2, but it just times out when i use firefox10:46
gnomefreakgfish,  where it says URI type the ip address of router10:46
n0dlhow would i set up X in the base system?10:46
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muepall I have there is eth010:47
Stormx2I'm sure i did it like, yesterday >.>10:47
cornflakewill there ever be a permanent ubuntu-unstable repository?10:47
gfishbut its on an windows pc10:47
Stormx2EspTho: Try pinging the router. Open terminal, ping it10:47
muepeth1 isn't in ifconfig either10:47
Stormx2EspTho: If that works, try pinging google10:47
gfishgnomefreak>its on a windows pc10:47
n0dlDoes anyone know how to install X on the base system?10:47
gnomefreakgfish i dont think it matters10:47
gfishok10:47
gfishi need to get the ip10:47
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gnomefreakgfish, yes for the router10:48
mueplspci doesn't list the card though10:48
EspThoStormx2, uhm.. it says destination host unreachable10:48
gfishgnomefreak i know it10:48
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Stormx2EspTho: When you pinged the router?10:48
n0dlcan someone help me with X?10:48
EspThoStormx2, yeah :p10:48
gnomefreakgfish, after you put the ip address in click next than pick your printer out of the list10:48
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Stormx2EspTho: Reset the router. Wait for it to boot back up, then go into networking and disable & enable the device10:49
gfishok10:49
Stormx2Ack, how do I reload the font cache?!10:49
freakcodehi guys10:49
EspThoStormx2, okey.. i'll try10:49
n0dli get this error when i try to start X etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc: line 2:/usr/bin/X11/x: No usch file or directory10:49
gnomefreakhi freakcode10:49
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freakcodeanyone with nvidia module problems?10:49
Stormx2n0dl: uh oh >.>10:49
Stormx2!nivida10:50
ubotuStormx2: What?10:50
Stormx2!nvidia10:50
ubotusomebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736810:50
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Stormx2>.> damn my spelling10:50
freakcodei got the following "issue"... cant get AGP 8x to work10:50
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n0dli get this error when i try to start X etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc: line 2:/usr/bin/X11/x: exec: cannot exec no such file etc10:50
dino-anyone tested cedega here? need some help...10:50
gfishgnomefreak> then i click apply10:50
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Stormx2n0dl: We saw. Don't repeat10:50
freakcodeagpgart returns on dmesg that its on 4x... and no NVReg helps10:50
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gnomefreakgfish, doe sit have the printer and give you a driver?10:50
n0dlStormx2: have any ideas?10:50
Stormx2n0dl: How have you managed to delete that?!10:50
n0dlStormx2: im trying to install x from a clean BASE install10:51
gnomefreakgfish, if so click the install driver button10:51
n0dlStormx2: I never had it ni the first place10:51
EspThoStormx2, just like take out the power or use some kind of reset button?10:51
freakcodewho got a nvidia card working on ubuntu here?10:51
gnomefreakn0dl,  im pretty sure you need the X-base package10:51
Stormx2EspTho: If there is a switch, flick it. otherwise taking the power out usually does the trick10:51
n0dlgnomefreak: do you know how to get that? sudo apt-get X-base?10:52
EspThoStormx2, okey10:52
gfishgnomefreak>where do i install10:52
Stormx2n0dl: Why are you installing X from a clean base install?10:52
gnomefreakgfish,  does it ask you where to install it?10:52
n0dldoes anyone know what the X-base package is called?10:52
gfishgnomefreak, it says select a ppd10:53
n0dlStormx2: because i wanted to clean install with Openbox as my GUI10:53
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Xenguyn0dl: xserver-xorg10:53
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gnomefreakgfish, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters10:53
Stormx2n0dl: "sudo apt-get install openbox openbox-themes" <-- this not good enough for ya?10:54
gnomefreakgfish go to that site and look it will tell you10:54
n0dlStormx2: its apt-get openbox obconf but i already did taht i need to get X10:54
Stormx2n0dl: >.>10:54
gnomefreakdo they have a openbox-desktop package?10:55
Stormx2n0dl: Why not do a standard install then run that?10:55
Stormx2gnomefreak: let me see.10:55
Stormx2gnomefreak: no, but theres only 3 packages you need for openbox anyway10:55
Stormx2How do I reload font cache?10:55
gfishgnomefreak, my printer isnt on the list10:56
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gnomefreaknot a clue sorry Stormx210:56
n0dlXenguy: thanx ill be back if i need help10:56
Stormx2!fonts10:56
ubotu[fonts]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto10:56
DShepherdhey10:56
Stormx2handy10:56
gnomefreakgfish,  what printer is it and was it in the first list in cups?10:56
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gnomefreak!network printing10:57
ubotunetwork printing is probably http://occy.net/printing10:57
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pixelmonkeyis anyone here using usplash for their bootup process?  Is it just enabled after you install the usplash package?10:58
freakcodepixelmonkey:  i think it needs some grub loading parameter for it10:59
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MarlunAnyone who knows if theres a tutorial which goes through the steps of getting gnome installed on a server-installation? (I made a server-installation because I wanted to see and learn how you installed everything yourself instead of having it all after installation)10:59
gnomefreakubotu tell gfish  about network printing10:59
freakcodebut by default it adds the usplash11:00
gfishgnomefreak, i figured it11:00
gnomefreakok good11:00
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gfishgnomefreak, but the printer is attatched to the network through a windows pc11:01
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gnomefreakgfish,  it shouldnt matter11:01
Stormx2Aaack!!!11:01
Stormx2dragging and dropping fonts onto fonts:/// does *not* work!11:02
gfishhmm ok11:02
gnomefreakalthough it would be easier if you dumped winblows :) j/k11:02
tcmjrCan I install kde apps on gnome ?11:02
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gnomefreaktcmjr, yes but you will need kde base and some libs11:02
AtmasaroI have an S3 ProSavage DDR video card and I just recently downloaded the driver that supposedly supports DRI. Now, when I load Ubuntu, it goes blank at the login screen...11:03
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n0dlwhats the package for Xterm called?11:03
gnomefreakif you sudo apt-get install <packagename> it will ask you if you want the dependencies and the answer is YES11:03
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knubbehmm11:03
gnomefreakbrb11:04
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MetalMan82Stormx2, didn't work.. ping just replies Destination host unreachable.. i've also tried switching to DHCP but that didn't work at all..11:05
Stormx2MetalMan82: Can't ping router?11:05
n0dlAnyone know what the Xterm package is?11:05
n0dlcalled11:05
Stormx2!xterm11:05
ubotuStormx2: I haven't a clue11:05
Stormx2>.>11:05
Stormx2no11:05
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esptho_Stormx2, nah..11:06
server_newbieanyone know about lightsquid? I am getting the following message and I am at a loss on how to corest it11:06
server_newbieWARNING !!!!, parsed 0 lines from total : 011:06
server_newbieplease check confiuration !!!!11:06
server_newbiemay be wrong log format selected ?11:06
MarlunWhat do I need to get gnome up after a server-install? I want as little as possible to be installed so I can choose what applications to install later. I know theres a "ubuntu-desktop" but does that one not install alot of other apps too?11:07
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esptho_Stormx2, i've noticed one thing.. the DNS is 192.168.0.1.. this is windows xp11:07
LjLMarlun: why don't you just install the programs you need?11:07
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esptho_Stormx2, and clearly this computer works..11:08
gfishok11:08
MarlunLjL: I want to know how to install gnome first :)11:08
gfishcan someone else help11:08
gnomefreakis there an easier way to change nicks without typing /msg nickserv identify?11:08
gfishi get not certified11:08
gfishto print11:08
LjLMarlun: but installing a program that uses Gnome will install (the relevant parts of) Gnome11:08
n0dlIs anyone here experienced with openbox?11:08
gnomefreaknot certified?11:08
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MarlunLjL: oh! So if I install xchat, which I know I want, gnome will be installed too?11:09
gfishgnomefreak> (client-error-not-authorized)!11:09
LjLMarlun: x-chat is only a GTK app, not a gnome app, i think. anyway, not *11:09
gnomefreakgfish,  is your windows pc on?11:10
LjLMarlun: x-chat is only a GTK app, not a gnome app, i think. anyway, not *gnome* will be installed, but just the relevant libraries11:10
LjLMarlun: anyway, i think the package you're looking for is gnome-core11:10
Paradoxxif i burn an mpeg2 file to a dvd, will it automatically be able to play in a dvd player?11:10
MarlunLjL: Ok, I'll take a look at it :) thanks11:10
gfishgnomefreak>yes11:10
LjLMarlun: what you need, basically, to have Gnome running is a display manager (like GDM) and the gnome-panel, the rest will be installed by itself when it's needed11:10
LjLMarlun: but gnome-core should do the trick of having a ready-to-run Gnome desktop when you login, anyway11:11
esptho_can anyone help me? seems Stormx2 has taken a brake :p11:11
gnomefreakgfish,  i dont know im sorry i never got that message when trying to print11:11
gfishhmm11:11
gfishi typed the router pass in11:11
Paradoxxif i burn an mpeg2 file to a dvd, will it automatically be able to play in a dvd player?11:11
gfishyes#11:11
MarlunLjL: hmmm can't seem to find gnome-core with "apt-cache search gnome-core"?11:11
LjLMarlun: that's because it's in Universe i suppose, and you only have main11:12
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n0dldoes anyone know anyhting about openbox?11:12
gnomefreakMarlun, have you tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?11:12
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Marlungnomefreak: No since I think it installs alot of other apps, I just want gnome so I can install the apps I want and nothing more :)11:13
n0dldoes anyone know anything about openbox or the channel for it?11:13
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Paradoxx!dvd11:14
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl11:14
MarlunLjL: ah, ok, then I'll add universe and try again :) How come Gnome is in Universe?11:14
LjLMarlun: look, i'd just install "gnome-panel" and see if GDM (if you have it installed, that is, otherwise install it) gives me Gnome as an option11:14
LjLif it were for me11:14
gnomefreakn0dl,  try #openbox since this is ubuntu we focus on gnome11:14
LjLMarlun: because that package isn't maintained by the Ubuntu team, i suppose. that's another reason why i'd personally avoid installing it11:14
LjLMarlun: it's just a metapackage anyway, look at the dependencies11:15
gnomefreak!gnome-core11:15
ubotugnomefreak: Do they come in packets of five?11:15
gnomefreakyes darnit11:15
gnomefreak:(11:15
gnomefreakthat bot hates me :)11:15
LjL!find gnome-core11:15
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'gnome-core' (2 shown): gnome-core ;; gnome-core-devel.11:15
gfishgnomefreak> Ready: Unable to get printer status (client-error-not-authorized)! <thats the status11:15
LjL!info gnome-core11:15
ubotugnome-core: (The GNOME Desktop Environment -- essential components), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1:2.10.1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 40 kB11:15
esptho_i have a newly installed 5.10 ubuntu.. and i have set up the network to stattic ip.. the DNS specified on this xp computer is 192.168.0.1 that's also the gateway/dhcp server.. when i 'ping 192.168.0.1' i get replied destination host unreachable..11:15
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Paradoxxif i burn an mpeg2 file to a dvd, will it automatically be able to play in a dvd player?11:16
gnomefreakgfish, im not sure im sorry11:16
gnomefreakLjL,  do you have universe enabled?11:16
gfishgnomefreak> do u think i can get help in the forums11:16
LjLgnomefreak: yes11:16
MarlunLjL: I don't think I have GDM installed, I have not installed anything after the server isntallation.11:16
nishiroyatoHello.  I have many questions as a first time linux user.11:17
gnomefreakgfish, yes try ubuntuforums.org or com or what ever the end is11:17
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LjLMarlun: then "sudo aptitude install gdm", you'll need it anyway. or "sudo aptitude install xdm" if you want something *really* lightweight (and ugly)11:17
LjLMarlun: GDM (or XDM, or KDM) are just your "display managers", i.e. your login screen, anyway11:17
sethknishiroyato, just jump in and ask11:17
MarlunLjL: No I don't want it very lightweight, I just don't want more then I want :P11:18
Paradoxxif i burn an mpeg2 file to a dvd, will it automatically be able to play in a dvd player?11:18
gfishit says cant get status11:18
MarlunLjL: okey, will install, brb :)11:18
nishiroyatoi've put a second hard disk in my computer.  the original one with the OSX installation was put in as the second disk and the new disk is the first disk, which ive installed ubuntu11:18
mawehi all. having trouble with the nvidia driver under hoary. according to the xorg.log everything load fine, no errors. but running glxgears has no effect. no crash or anythin, glxgears just doesn't do anything... any ideas?11:18
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esptho_anyone? sorry for the nagging :P11:18
nishiroyatonow, I'd like to mount my OSX drive in ubuntu11:18
gfishParadoxx> no it will need to be authoured before11:18
gnomefreak!nvidia11:19
ubotusomebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736811:19
LjLMarlun: you won't get more than you want, i assure you... at most, *less*, but that can be fixed by installing more stuff ;)11:19
gimmulFIntel 3ghz or Amd 64 3200+    ?11:19
sethknishiroyato, you need kernel support for the osx file system11:19
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Paradoxxgfish: how i go about doing that?11:19
MarlunLjL: good :)11:19
nishiroyatohow do i do that?11:19
LjLMarlun: do you have an X server anyway?11:19
ParadoxxgimmulF: AMD 64 3200+ all the way11:20
sethknishiroyato, I have to check whether that is available with the install kernel.  If it isn't, you rebuild the kernel with that option turned on.11:20
gimmulFoki :)11:20
LjLMarlun: (i'm not sure what comes with a "server installation", that's why i ask)11:20
gnomefreak!dinner11:20
ubotugnomefreak: I give up, what is it?11:20
MarlunLjL: I'm not sure (sorry)11:20
gnomefreakbrb11:20
MarlunLjL: how can I check?11:20
n0dlNo server does not have X11:20
sethknishiroyato, that might sound intimidating but it isn't really difficult11:20
n0dlServer does not come with X when you install it11:20
n0dlyou have to install a series of X like did11:20
n0dlX packages i mean11:21
LjLMarlun: well, just install GDM for now, maybe it depends on the xorg server11:21
Paradoxxgfish:  how do i go about doing that?11:21
gfishparadox> im not sure im new to ubuntu myself11:21
Paradoxxkk11:21
LjLMarlun: if it doesn't, then "sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg" should do11:21
Paradoxxhow do i go about doing it in windows?11:21
nishiroyatoit does, but it must be done.  other questions i might have may also relate to rebuilding the kernel.  such as, i want to install the linuxwacom drivers11:21
gfishnero11:21
gfishuse nero11:21
LjLMarlun: to try starting GDM and see if it works (and if X is installed), do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"11:21
gfishim sure u will be able to do it in linux11:21
n0dlLjL: Do you know how to start Xterm in X windows?11:22
Paradoxxgfish: which nero?11:22
n0dlLjL: im using Openbox11:22
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MarlunNow it wanted the Ubuntu CD, I thought it was going to download it, but ok :)11:22
simonvalloreroot@ubuntu:/home/simonvallore# dvdbackup -i hdc -I isnt hdc my cd drive if not how do i find it ?11:22
Marlunproberby installs all the apps on the cd ;P11:22
LjLn0dl: i have no idea with openbox, never used it... but GDM, KDM or whatever should have a "safe mode" (or somesuch) in their "Session" menu to have you start an xterm11:22
sethknishiroyato, right.  once you've rebuilt the kernel, then doing it again is simple, you just run the configuration (make xconfig), change the options, and build.11:23
LjLMarlun: just remove the CD line from /etc/apt/sources.list11:23
n0dlLjL: do i need GDM? i thought thats just a log screen11:23
LjLMarlun: and do "sudo apt-get update"11:23
simonvalloreroot@ubuntu:/home/simonvallore# dvdbackup -i hdc -I isnt hdc my cd drive if not how do i find it ?11:23
sethknishiroyato, first step is to use the install thing and install the kernel source11:23
sethknishiroyato, have you  done that yet?11:23
MarlunLjL: Well, It's using the cd now, guess it doesn't matter where it gets the stuff?11:24
LjLn0dl: yeah, it's the login screen... how exactly are you going to start X without it? that is unless you're using startx, are you?11:24
nishiroyatoi havent.  where do i go for it?11:24
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n0dlLjL: yeah im using startx11:24
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LjLMarlun: no it doesn't, unless there are some updates on the 'net, but you can always get them later11:24
LjLn0dl: then "man startx"11:24
simonvalloreroot@ubuntu:/home/simonvallore# dvdbackup -i hdc -I isnt hdc my cd drive if not how do i find it ?11:25
n0dlbrb11:25
sethknishiroyato, menu system, administration, install new applications.  Then file/advanced.  Then you can look through the packages, or use the search11:26
gfishpardoxx, any new version u need nero vision express its a plugin for nero btw there is nero for linux dunno if u can use vision express though11:26
MarlunLjL: I did the gdm start, it started up but then I got "Failed to start the X server...", so I guess I don't have it :P11:27
simonvalloreroot@ubuntu:/home/simonvallore# dvdbackup -i hdc -I isnt hdc my cd drive if not how do i find it ?11:27
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MarlunLjL: Or maybe it's not configured correctly.11:27
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LjLMarlun: try typing "X"11:28
LjLMarlun: if it's not there, it'll say command not found11:28
nishiroyatoin 'add applicatons'  am i looking for the kernel source there?11:28
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MarlunLjL: yeah, it's not here11:28
LjLnishiroyato: no, not really, i don't think11:28
Marlunor there11:28
LjLMarlun: "sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg" then11:28
gfishdoes anyone know how to create a dvd from an avi file11:29
LjLnishiroyato: use aptitude or synaptic. "aptitude install linux-source" will get it11:29
LjLnishiroyato: with a "sudo" in front of it11:29
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Ricaparhello11:29
LjLhi11:29
nishiroyatookay, im trying that11:29
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LjLnishiroyato: but, my two cents are, if you don't know how to install a package, you probably shouldn't try compiling a custom kernel11:30
n0dldoes anyone know what Xterm needs tor run?11:30
LjLn0dl: nothing more than an X server, i think11:30
sethknishiroyato, it's probably easier from the command line, but if you do file/advanced, and then search, you will find the kernel source in the GUI11:31
LjLsethk: "linux-source" is the package name11:31
nishiroyatoin that case, i need a good lesson on installing packages.  are packages the form in which programs come?11:31
nishiroyatoor are packages part of the kernel compiling?11:31
n0dlLjL: hmm thats awkward i wonder why it doesnt pop up11:31
sethkLjL, thanks11:31
sethknishiroyato, in this case, both11:31
LjLn0dl: what are you typing?11:32
gfishcan i use my gmai account in evolution mail11:32
sethknishiroyato, the kernel source is a package, just like anything else you might install11:32
sethknishiroyato, although, unlike a program, you install the kernel source so that you can build it, rather than run it.11:32
LjLnishiroyato: yeah packages are the *preferred* form for getting programs in Ubuntu11:32
n0dlLjL: i type startx11:32
LjLn0dl: try "startx xterm"11:32
n0dlLjL: then i left click and try clicking on terminal emulator11:32
n0dlij11:32
n0dlok11:32
n0dlbrb11:32
MarlunLjL: Installed it, and typed "X" it stopped giving error "Couldn not init font path element..." ... "Could not open default font 'fixed';" and also: People inexperienced with the X Window System (that me) should have the "x-window-system" or "x-window-system-core" packages installed."11:32
nishiroyatoare packages te tbz or tar or bz2 files ive downloaded?11:33
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sethknishiroyato, no11:33
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sethknishiroyato, those are usually source code archives.  The package manager doesn't know about them.11:33
fatejudgeris there  a way to play Quicktime 7 movies using either xine or gstreamer?11:33
jefletcherHi, i'm trying to play a DVD with mplayer but it gived the error "Can't read VGM info!"11:33
jefletcheranyone know why?11:33
sethknishiroyato, I frequently use those to build, but when you do, remember that the package manager doesn't know about what you've built and installed that way.11:33
LjLMarlun: do that ;-) although i think in this case you should probably install "x-window-system", not the "-core" one... yes it will install a little bit more things, i assume, but i have a feeling it will save you from a lot of trouble11:33
nishiroyatois the package manager unique to ubuntu or a general linux thing?11:33
LjLnishiroyato: most linux distributions have some form of packaging11:34
jcapenishiroyato: ...though they tend to be different programs and file formats11:34
LjLnishiroyato: the two main systems used nowadays are RPM (from RedHat, now used by Fedora and Mandriva for example) and APT (from Debian, now used in Ubuntu, Mepis and others)11:34
jefletcheranyone know why Mplayer says "Can't read VGM info!" when I try to play a DVD?11:34
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nishiroyatohmm, so if there isnt an ubuntu package for the linuxwacom driver, im shit out?11:34
n0dlLjL: a terminal showed up but it froze X11:35
LjLnishiroyato: note that, even though the packaging system is the same as Debian's, you *should not* install Debian packages or use Debian repositories in Ubuntu11:35
fatejudgerLjL: you can install some deb packages11:35
jcapenishiroyato: Naw, you can compile one if you need it, it just tends to leave the system kinda messy11:35
esptho_i have a newly installed 5.10 ubuntu distro.. but i can't get the internet working.. i have specified the DNS and i have set it up for static ip.. it's a wlan btw.. but when i try to ping the router it replies destination host unreachable.. any one here that can help me?11:35
n0dlLjL: do you think i have to install all the X11 files?11:35
nishiroyatowhat about preparing source code into an ubuntu friendly package?11:36
MarlunLjL: hmm does not seem to work. "No candidate version found for x-window-system"11:36
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LjLn0dl: X didn't freeze, i think, it just didn't start your OpenBox. "startx xterm" just start X with an xterm, and nothing else. for running it inside OpenBox, i think you should find a "run program" or "execute command" (or something) menu, and type "xterm" there, if the default "Terminal emulator" button doesn't work11:36
LjLn0dl: the "Terminal emulator" button is probably looking for some *different* terminal that is not xterm, i think11:36
jcapenishiroyato: You can do that, though doing kernel stuff in debian packages is a pain (I've done it before)11:36
sethknishiroyato, the programs to create the ubuntu (debian) packages are all available to install on your ubuntu system, and they are quite good11:36
n0dlLjL: so what exactly do you want me to do?11:36
LjLn0dl: what X11 files don't you have installed?11:36
benplautanyone here make metacity themes? i'm modding one, and one thing won't work :/11:36
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n0dlLjL: just the base and xterm thats it11:37
nishiroyatolinux is confusing to the point where i dont even know where to start11:37
jcapenishiroyato: It's usually easier to just build the module and put it in the directory, then delete/re-build it when you upgrade to a newer kernel11:37
LjLn0dl: and openbox, i suppose?11:37
sethknishiroyato, then for now use the packages that ubuntu provides11:37
n0dlLjL: yes11:37
vbgunzanybody here use devilspie?11:37
n0dlshould install the other X11 files?11:37
sethknishiroyato, one big advantage of ubuntu here is that the package manager takes care of a lot of these details for you, which makes it easier to learn.  Then you can go back later and figure out the rest.11:37
jefletcheranyone know why Mplayer says "Can't read VGM info!" when I try to play a DVD? I have the libdvdcss2 installed, but for some reason it wont play?11:38
LjLMarlun: hmm that's true. but "-core" is there. but, before trying "-core", i think you should give "sudo aptitude install xorg-common" a try11:38
nishiroyatookay.  then, mounting my OSX drive aside, my first goal Id like to accomplish is turning this linuxwacom driver source code into a ubuntu package11:38
MarlunLjL: hehe ok :P11:38
vbgunzsethk: may I ask you a question? I might have overlooked it *but* does Synaptioc provide a history? A history of applications I manually installed?11:38
n0dlLjL: should i install the other X11 files?11:38
sethkvbgunz, it maintains the database through which you can find out what has been installed.  I'm not sure about whether it can tell you exactly when you installed it.11:39
gfishwhats the best torrent client for linix11:39
gfish*linux11:39
LjLn0dl: i'm really not sure what "other X11" files you're thinking about. what i think, anyway, is that you should simply look up on OpenBox's manual how to start arbitrary programs, or how to add them to the programs menu (assuming OpenBox has one)11:39
sethknishiroyato, you have to do a kernel build for that also, as we said earlier.  So install the kernel source package.11:39
sethknishiroyato, LjL told you the package name11:40
somerville32How do I mount USB?11:40
MarlunLjL: Nothing about "no candidate" but the same packages was "kept back" as when i tried the x-window-system. (4 not upgraded)11:40
vbgunzsethk: not when I installed *but* everything I manually installed? I installed a few things... some stuff I probably don't even use... Would like to track them down and do away with them... I currently use debfoster *but* am curious if maybe Synaptic provides a sort of history view...11:40
MarlunLjL: and nothing was installed11:40
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LjLMarlun: note that i'm always saying "aptitude", and i advise you to actually use it, as with "aptitude" you'll be able to easily remove anything that's not really needed -- if you use apt-get, that will be harder11:40
nishiroyatosudo aptitude install linux-source right?11:40
somerville32How do I mount my usb jumpdrive?11:41
LjLMarlun: hmm? what's being kept back?11:41
sethkvbgunz, by manually, you mean with apt-get at the command line?11:41
LjLnishiroyato: yes11:41
LjLMarlun: do a "sudo apt-get update"11:41
MarlunLjL: yeah I was actually going to ask about that :P but I've been using aptitude.11:41
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vbgunzsethk: either way... I instinctively look for it *but* maybe over look it... It's unusual such a nice application doesn't at least keep track of the things *I installed*... Do you understand?11:42
LjLMarlun: with aptitude, if you install package A and that in turns installs package B, package B will be automatically removed when you remove package A (unless, of course, there is some other package C that also wants B)11:42
MarlunLjL: kept back: libgnutls11, libssl0.9.7, sudo, wget11:42
nishiroyatoerror 'could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)11:42
KhaaaaanDarn I just accidentally installed X-Chat when I meant to install X Chat 2 :(11:42
somerville32How do I mount my usb jumpdrive?11:42
gfishcan i get help with a torrent client11:42
MarlunLjL: ah okey, thanks :)11:42
watnusomerville32: plug it in and it should be recognized11:42
gfishi need one11:42
LjLMarlun: "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade". i think you just need some updated packages from the Net11:42
somerville32watnu: Where would it be mounted to?11:42
Madpilotgfish: GnomeTorrent is included by default, for downloading11:43
LjLnishiroyato: close Synaptic or whatever installer you have open11:43
nishiroyatoyep, that did it11:43
watnusomerville32: in /media/usb11:43
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somerville32I think it might be becuase I'm using xfce411:43
nishiroyatoi love how willing linux is to connect to some server and grab files11:43
MarlunLjL: not it seemed to update all of those that was kept back before.11:43
somerville32How I manually mount it?11:43
LjLMarlun: not=now?11:44
nishiroyatodoes every distrobution maintain such a server?11:44
jefletcheranyone know why Mplayer says "Can't read VGM info!" when I try to play a DVD? I have the libdvdcss2 installed, but for some reason it wont play?11:44
watnusomerville32: just plug it in11:44
MarlunLjL: yeah11:44
LjLMarlun: try again installing xorg-common, and if that doesn't give you a working X, then go and install x-window-system-core11:44
somerville32watnu: It is now plugged in and not mounted11:44
LjLMarlun: if xorg-common installs, try running /etc/init.d/gdm start again11:45
MarlunLjL: the common thing didn't install anything, tried to open X and got the same font error.11:45
watnusomerville32: weird.. up till now many cameraas and usb-sticks have been recognized automatically11:45
somerville32watnu: I'm not using Gnome11:45
MarlunLjL: can try that anyway :)11:45
gfishMadpilot, i know but i need to change the ports11:45
somerville32watnu: I'm using xfce411:45
LjLMarlun: hold on11:45
MarlunLjL: nah, just get [fail] .11:45
jefletcheranyone know why Mplayer says "Can't read VGM info!" when I try to play a DVD? I have the libdvdcss2 installed, but for some reason it wont play?11:46
watnusomerville32: i use gnome or kde... i dont know xfce4 good enough11:46
LjLMarlun: install xserver-common (which is not the same as xorg-common ;)11:46
MarlunLjL: whops, sorry :)11:46
LjLMarlun: no no, i told you that11:46
LjLMarlun: my fault11:46
LjLMarlun: (anyway don't bother removing xorg-common, it's needed anyway)11:47
MarlunLjL: well, still 0 on everything. :P11:47
LjLMarlun: (and it was probably already installed when you installed xserver-xorg)11:47
LjLMarlun: nothing? well install x-window-system-core11:47
Madpilotgfish: BT uses standard ports, doesn't it? If you need to make sure the BT ports are open, install Firestarter and open the ports there11:47
MarlunLjL: ok :)11:47
LjLMarlun: it will not install things that are not really needed anyway11:48
MarlunLjL: 5 packages, and it's about fonts, sound promesing :P11:49
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LjLMarlun: yeah, i think it will work now11:49
MarlunLjL: a gray screen! :)11:49
LjLMarlun: using "X"?11:49
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MarlunLjL: yeah, and even a mouse pointer11:49
LjLMarlun: then gdm start should work this time11:50
gfishMadpilot> i need to change the ports because the default are rejected by tracker11:50
MarlunLjL: just trying to figure out how to get out of this :)11:50
LjLMarlun: ctrl+alt+backspace11:50
MarlunLjL: nice, but gdm still just gives me [fail] , it's like it doesn't even try, before it started up but then told me it failed, now it instantly gives me "Starting GNOME Display Manager [fail] "11:51
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nishiroyatoive completed the aptitude install linux-source11:51
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LjLMarlun: hmm are you running it with sudo?11:52
LjLMarlun: aso try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart", in case it thinks it's already started11:52
sethknishiroyato, ok, you should now have a /usr/src/linux-2.6.xxx11:52
MarlunLjL: also when comming out of X Window, theres alot of warnings: "Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" already registered at priority 0" and like 10 of those with different "pcf.Z, etc."11:53
sethknishiroyato, the xxxxx being the rest of the version11:53
MarlunLjL: ok11:53
LjLMarlun: there's always a lot of that stuff when starting X11:53
MarlunLjL: worked =) Ubuntu login screen11:53
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simonvallore#ubuntu11:54
sethknishiroyato, first thing I always do is back up that directory before I start to play around in it11:54
sethknishiroyato, of course, you could reinstall the package, but backing up is always a good idea.11:54
natexcould some one post or email thier evince.desktop and icons?11:54
MarlunLjL: Could we organize this a little, if I do this again :) What should I install (first)? :)11:54
simonvalloreroot@ubuntu:/home/simonvallore/Desktop# chmod 777 Storage11:54
simonvallorechmod: changing permissions of `Storage': Read-only file system11:54
nishiroyatookay.  copy and rename it somewhere?11:54
LjLMarlun: i think x-window-system-core and gdm would be enough11:54
simonvallorehow do i make the drive viewable by regular users11:54
sethknishiroyato, I just tar it11:54
LjLMarlun: if not, also xserver-xorg11:55
dino-how do i install VLC?11:55
sethknishiroyato, I cd to the directory, and I do this:11:55
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LjLMarlun: but now try and see if you actually *can* login11:55
sethknishiroyato, tar cvjf ~/linux.source.backup.tar.bz2 .11:55
eternalistFliesLikeABrick: X isnt working11:55
sethknishiroyato, note the dot at the end, which means "here"11:55
LjLMarlun: (and get to something nicer than an xterm, i.e. gnome)11:55
eternalistFliesLikeABrick: i had to press ctrl+alt f2 to get here11:55
sethknishiroyato, the ~ means your home directory11:55
LjLMarlun: (though i'm not really sure gnome is nicer than an xterm)11:55
FliesLikeABricketernalist do you understand X config enough to go in and try to fix it?11:55
sethknishiroyato, the cvjf means create, verbose, compress with bzip2, put the stuff into a file11:56
MarlunLjL: what is xterm? =P11:56
eternalistyes11:56
eternalistive seen it all before11:56
sethknishiroyato, the f might seem odd, but that's because tar stands for "tape archiver", and the default thing to do used to be to back up to a tape11:56
sethknishiroyato, and the syntax has persisted over the last 40 years or so.11:56
FliesLikeABricksorry eternalist, it worked fine for me without extra meddling11:56
FliesLikeABrick:-/11:56
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FliesLikeABricki guess i just got lucky11:56
LjLMarlun: the oldest graphical terminal client for X -- the console in other words11:56
nishiroyatocurrently it looks like its already a tar.bz2 file11:56
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MarlunLjL: I could login, I'm inside gnome now, however :P The dialog that comes up when you login which shows you whats is loading, has kinda freezed on nautilus, but I can move in the menus...11:56
nishiroyatoha, thats an interesting history11:56
eternalistFliesLikeABrick: what do i do?11:57
nishiroyatoso i have to untar it?11:57
FliesLikeABrickundo what you did just now11:57
MarlunLjL: now it disapeared =)11:57
FliesLikeABrickrestore your backup x config11:57
LjLMarlun: well i suppose that's 'cause you don't have Nautilus installed, you can install it if you feel it's a "basic" component of gnome11:57
eternalistwhats the point in that!?11:57
LjLMarlun: it's the file manager, so personally, i'd find it quite "basic", but otoh it's not really *needed* i suppose11:57
FliesLikeABricketernalist well are you asking me how to give up or how to get it working?11:57
MarlunLjL: woho, looks like its working :P and nautilus is installed.11:57
eternalistFliesLikeABrick: how to get it working.11:58
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FliesLikeABrickbecause i don't know enough about the problem to help you get it working, sorry11:58
eternalistFliesLikeABrick: exact..11:58
FliesLikeABricki told you that mine worked as it should have11:58
StanislavHey all11:58
MarlunLjL: don't know why the dialog hanged, disapeared when I opened nautilus.11:58
LjLMarlun: ok, then now you can just install the apps you want. you might miss a couple of things in the Gnome panel or menus or stuff, but that's precisely the point of doing a "barebones" install ;)11:58
FliesLikeABricketernalist does the X error output say anything helpful?11:58
LjLMarlun: perhaps it won't even do it next time, i'm not sure why it did11:59
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MarlunLjL: So the steps are. 1. x-window-system-core. 2. gdm. 3. xserver-xorg? =)11:59
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gfishi installed bit tornado11:59
natexcould some one post or email thier evince.desktop and icons?11:59
gfishbut i dont know where it is11:59
MarlunLjL: xserver-xorg being a "maybe" :)11:59
nishiroyatobeing that it came in a tar.bz2 file, i should aim to unpack it and then make it?11:59
LjLMarlun: step 3 only if the other two don't result in "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" working... but anyway, step 3 will not hurt11:59
sethknishiroyato, by the way, it is 2.6.12-9.11:59

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