[12:00] <Kartagis> Seveas can you help me with the errors on http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/GZ3nKe48.html
[12:00] <rabeldable> anyone ever use stream ripper?
[12:01] <mdjake> can anybody help me connecting a Breezy box with a Breezy notebook through a wlan? Both cards are driven by rt2500...
[12:01] <u-sun_> delire, do i need to burn an iso to upgrade to breezy..
[12:01] <triniubuntu> rabeldable, not i
[12:01] <lightbright> dr_willis: after copoying, looks the same for me :P
[12:01] <delire> u-sun_: nope.
[12:01] <u-sun_> delire, i made an iso, but it stalled half way... so i decided to wait until i received the cd
[12:01] <u-sun_> delire, oh cool
[12:01] <lightbright> dr_willis: I dont have a Setting/Load View PRofile/
[12:01] <_jason> rabeldable, i have
[12:01] <delire> u-sun_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade?highlight=%28upgrade%29
[12:01] <holy_cow> http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2005/11/msg00066.html  <-- oh *bling* *bling*
[12:01] <triniubuntu> howdo you update to breezy with apt-get
[12:02] <delire> triniubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade?highlight=%28upgrade%29
[12:02] <simonvallore> Hello How do i make xmms my default player for music files
[12:02] <pztak> blondie, ok, so i have this external hdd, 200gb on it, it's fat32 right now, how can i repartition it (it already has data on it) so that i can make my backups there (and what filesystem is best? ext2?)
[12:02] <holy_cow> wait
[12:02] <holy_cow> http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2005/11/msg00066.html  <-- that
[12:02] <Kartagis> Seveas are you there?
[12:02] <erUSUL> !tell triniubuntu about Breezy
[12:02] <blondie> pztak: well I'd use ext3 but I'm not sure about partitioning and keeping data
[12:02] <u-sun_> delire, thks
[12:02] <u-sun_> delire, helps a lot!
[12:03] <pztak> hmm anyone? partitioning and keeping data?
[12:03] <simonvallore> http://simon.ridgewiz.com/activation%20crack.png
[12:03] <simonvallore> oooops
[12:03] <simonvallore> Hello How do i make xmms my default player for music files
[12:03] <delire> u-sun_: important you follow those pre-upgrade notes. this short sort out your soundcard problems (crimsun confirmed it's supported in breezy)
[12:03] <erUSUL> pztak, just do not use the -l flag to make the buckups
[12:03] <fanopnaic> pztak: probably not.
[12:03] <triniubuntu> erUSUL, delire, seamless transfer from hoary?
[12:03] <crimsun> delire: (it's also supported in Hoary; I sent her instructions)
[12:04] <blanky> someone helped me a while ago with this mplayer error
[12:04] <rabeldable> _jason: msg me
[12:04] <vlad__> can somone point me in the right direction of how i can setup my pcmcia Linksys wireless WPC54GS v1.1 netwowrk card
[12:04] <ecobuntu> hi
[12:04] <u-sun_> delire, great!
[12:04] <adevlin> Does anyone in here use gnome-ppp?
[12:04] <erUSUL> triniubuntu, read what ubotu told you
[12:04] <pztak> erUSUL, that wont make the backups incremental.. right? it'd copy the files over every time... that takes quite a while, and a lot of space for 3 backups
[12:04] <u-sun_> crimsun, thks
[12:04] <delire> crimsun: via alsa-source yep
[12:04] <_jason> rabeldable, I've used it only a couple of times... I don't know how helpful I would be.  just ask your question here in case someone else knows more
[12:05] <devint> is there a lighterweight version of firefox so my dad will quit complaining about how slow it is on his 500mhz laptop?
[12:05] <adevlin> <----having dial-up trouble with gnome-ppp
[12:05] <crimsun> devint: have him try opera. http://www.opera.com
[12:05] <rabeldable> nevermind... I'll figure it out myself...
[12:05] <Xanadu> devint - v1.5 is meant to be a bit leaner - it's almost out
[12:05] <erUSUL> pztak, use tar or darc or some archiving tool that will do incremental backups
[12:05] <mtw> Hey, my GCC compiler isn't working... When I run ./ configure, it returns "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[12:05] <mtw> " Any ideas on what is causing this?
[12:05] <delire> u-sun_: ok, off again. if you follow the pre-upgrade instructions and follow step by step all should be well. good luck!
[12:06] <erUSUL> devint, use epiphany the gnome browser
[12:06] <u-sun_> delire, cheers
[12:07] <devint> ok, so opera, v1.5, or epiphany...
[12:07] <Xanadu> devint: try all and see which one rocks the party
[12:07] <blanky> what do you guys use to play DVDs
[12:08] <somerville32> back
[12:08] <simonvallore> Hello How do i make xmms my default player for music files
[12:08] <erUSUL> blanky, xine
[12:08] <pztak> erUSUL, i think i would really rather use rsync with hardlinks.. lets me access each version of backup easily without having to decompress/etc
[12:08] <rockz> i install libstatgrab but adesklets said that libstatgrab is not found
[12:08] <tenzin_> hi I got a question: "how can I acces to the camera-volume in breezy? under /mnt?
[12:08] <pztak> erUSUL, and saves me about 100gb
[12:08] <somerville32> Can someone tell me what is w rong w/ the following: http://pastebin.ca/29350
[12:08] <adevlin> Simonvallore, do you mean in Firefox?
[12:08] <pztak> erUSUL, plus should be faster, from what i understand
[12:08] <welp> here's my ubuntu screenshot: http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=252726900437fb029d7168&p=screen
[12:08] <simonvallore> no i mean xmms
[12:08] <erUSUL> tenzin_, under /media
[12:08] <simonvallore> the music player
[12:08] <ajulius> this is weird
[12:09] <welp> in case you're interested
[12:09] <adevlin> Yeah simon I know,
[12:09] <simonvallore> apt-get install xmms
[12:09] <erUSUL> pztak, it seems a good choice yes
[12:09] <ajulius> i changed my monitor res correctly, got more refreshrate options
[12:09] <ajulius> but
[12:09] <ajulius> the screen is off center
[12:09] <purplefeltangel> can someone help me out? i'm on a liveCD and my system just locked up...is there any way i can fix it without losing what i'm doing?
[12:09] <simonvallore> how do i make it my default player for mp3's ect
[12:09] <ajulius> with windows and the same rate it shows up right
[12:09] <adevlin> You can righ tclick on music files and choose which app to open them
[12:09] <ajulius> any suggestions on how i can fix this?
[12:09] <blanky> what can play DVDs with the menus and all
[12:10] <adevlin> Choose xmms (/usr/bin/xmms"
[12:10] <Kartagis> anyone to help me?
[12:10] <ajulius> blanky:  Is there a way to recenter image
[12:10] <blanky> xmms plays DVDs?
[12:10] <Kartagis> last night I had a power loss, and when the power got back and I booted, X server didn't run
[12:10] <adevlin> and then, I think, There is an option in that dialogue box to say "Do this every time"
[12:10] <blanky> recenter image? in your monitor?
[12:10] <simonvallore> i choose it but it doesnt make it the default playerr
[12:10] <adevlin> or something...
[12:10] <adevlin> ;)
[12:10] <ajulius> blanky with linux, see it works fine with windows and same res
[12:10] <pztak> erUSUL, so i am just wondering how i could repartition this existing harddrive that has a lot of free space on it.. i know in windows there's a tool called partitionmagic.. is there any equivalent in linux?
[12:10] <somerville32> Can someone help me configure grub?
[12:10] <Kartagis> the errors I got are on http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/GZ3nKe48.html
[12:10] <ajulius> blanky:  I dont want to have to change monitor settings for each os
[12:10] <adevlin> Hold on Simon, let me check this out
[12:10] <Jestre> pztak: parted
[12:11] <ajulius> all the time, that would be a pain
[12:11] <purplefeltangel> my system just locked up on a liveCD...can someone help?
[12:11] <erUSUL> pztak, i've been told that gparted works fine
[12:11] <rabeldable> !gcc
[12:11] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.
[12:11] <blanky> ajulius: you shouldn't have to, why, you have to right now?
[12:11] <blanky> guys, what program plays DVDs with menus and all
[12:11] <Kartagis> !cc
[12:11] <ubotu> Kartagis: Are you on ritalin?
[12:11] <ompaul> purplefeltangel, had it been running?
[12:11] <ajulius> blanky:  The screen is offcenter with linux
[12:11] <Kartagis> ubotu yes I am
[12:11] <ubotu> Kartagis: Are you on ritalin?
[12:11] <erUSUL> pztak, work ony in umonted partitions for safety
[12:11] <ompaul> purplefeltangel, did it fail booting
[12:11] <erUSUL> anly*
[12:12] <purplefeltangel> ompau1 no
[12:12] <erUSUL> only**
[12:12] <Kartagis> ubotu I just told you I am
[12:12] <ubotu> Kartagis: I haven't a clue
[12:12] <purplefeltangel> it booted fine; i tried to open something and it just froze
[12:12] <Kartagis> ubotu no kidding!
[12:12] <ubotu> Kartagis: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:12] <shinu> when i do a dpkg -l and it returns rc in front of the entry, what does it mean?
[12:12] <Kartagis> ubotu yes they do
[12:12] <ubotu> Kartagis: I give up, what is it?
[12:12] <ajulius> blanky:  I changed the monitor settings, its working alot better but not perfect :(
[12:12] <ompaul> purplefeltangel, purplefeltangel ctrl+alt+f1 and see what you get
[12:12] <adevlin> Hahah, simon, I just realized, I'm working on a new install, so no mp3's
[12:12] <Kartagis> ubotu it'w condom
[12:12] <ubotu> Kartagis: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:12] <purplefeltangel> ompau1 thx
[12:12] <nollidj> hello... i cannot insert the ndiswrapper module with modprobe.  when trying to do so, i get "operation not permitted".  yes, i'm trying as root
[12:12] <adevlin> But, I will try and find a small one here real quick
[12:12] <simonvallore> msg adevlin hey i figured it out
[12:13] <adevlin> How's that?
[12:13] <purplefeltangel> ompau1 nothing happened
[12:13] <blanky> */
[12:13] <blanky> sorry ajulius, I'm not sure
[12:13] <simonvallore> right click on a file
[12:13] <simonvallore> go to properties
[12:13] <somerville32> I'm having trouble configuring grub, can someone help?
[12:13] <Kartagis> help help help
[12:13] <ajulius> sproingie:  ALot of RCN users on here
[12:13] <nollidj> google shows that other people have this problem and suggests some answers (try installing ndiswrapper from source, upgrade from hoary)... but i am hoping there is a workaround i can do that won't involve hours of time
[12:13] <tga> hey.. I am using a Dutch Sun type6 USB keyboard that has symbol keys in weird places.. any idea how I can switch to the standard layout?
[12:13] <blanky> hey guys, what's a good DVD player in linux, that displays the menus and all
[12:13] <nollidj> somerville32: what's the question?
[12:13] <tenzin_> erUSUL: thx
[12:13] <ajulius> sproingie:  SF is being sold from RCN :(
[12:13] <simonvallore> open with tab
[12:13] <simonvallore> and choose
[12:13] <ecobuntu> dapper ha ha ha
[12:13] <nollidj> blanky:  ogle has good menu support
[12:13] <blanky> ogle?
[12:13] <tga> blanky, PowerDVD
[12:13] <ajulius> sproingie:  I wonder who will buy up your market, hope its someone good :)
[12:13] <nollidj> as does xine
[12:13] <sproingie> ajulius: please don't tell me i'm going to be delivered to comcast
[12:13] <blanky> PowerDVD?!?!? ther'es powerDVD for linux?!
[12:13] <somerville32> nollidj: When I select to boot windows, it says bad disk or something to that effect
[12:13] <tga> blanky, it? the only legal one too
[12:13] <simonvallore> cya man
[12:14] <tga> blanky, yes
[12:14] <ompaul> purplefeltangel, try ctrl+alt+backspace if that does not work give it the three finger salute (ctrl+alt+delete) what did you try to open
[12:14] <nollidj> somerville32: can you pastebin your menu.lst ?
[12:14] <blanky> tga: oh, but I have to buy it dont I
[12:14] <sproingie> ajulius: roadrunner hopefully
[12:14] <ecobuntu> i have taken the plunge and i am now using dapper
[12:14] <adevlin> oooookay
[12:14] <somerville32> nollidj: http://pastebin.ca/29350
[12:14] <ecobuntu> though i don't necessarily recommend it
[12:14] <drasko> can anyone explain to me this command: route add -host 255.255.255.255 dev eth0
[12:14] <ajulius> sproingie:  prolly not
[12:14] <blanky> tga: right?
[12:14] <tga> blanky, free video players can not legally decode movie DVDs
[12:14] <Xanadu> ecobuntu iwhat's it like?
[12:14] <ajulius> sproingie:  Who is your cable provider now?
[12:14] <adevlin> glad you found a solution
[12:14] <ecobuntu> see i had to boot it in safe mode and i can only use it as root :)
[12:14] <ajulius> sproingie:  SF is an overbuilder market
[12:14] <blanky> tga: lol, okay, any illegal ones?
[12:14] <ecobuntu> Xanadu: not much different yet
[12:14] <blanky> jk dude
[12:14] <tga> blanky, xine, ogle
[12:15] <blanky> xine displays menus? I have it and I dont know how to use it
[12:15] <ajulius> sproingie:  prolly not roadrunner either
[12:15] <tga> blanky, I should say libdvdcss actually
[12:15] <purplefeltangel> ompau1 ctrl+alt+backspace doesnt work and neither does ctrl+alt+del; i was trying to open gpart[ition?]  and i had Gaim and Firefox open
[12:15] <Xanadu> ecobuntu you're brave dude - and impatient ;)
[12:15] <tga> nothing illegal about xine
[12:15] <Kartagis> who can help me?
[12:15] <ajulius> sproingie:  We have roadrunner available here or RCN
[12:15] <mtw> DeCSS?
[12:15] <ecobuntu> Xanadu: no i have breezy on my real partition
[12:15] <adevlin> Gnome-ppp connects but won't allow internet access, any ideas?
[12:15] <ecobuntu> Xanadu: i'm not stupid :)
[12:15] <adevlin> dial-up that is
[12:15] <ajulius> sproingie:  roadrunner is having latency issues bad as well as bandwidth issues here
[12:15] <blanky> libdvdcss, is that a program? sounds like a library
[12:15] <ecobuntu> Xanadu: i know it will crash and not work from time to time
[12:16] <ecobuntu> i just like to live life on the edge
[12:16] <adevlin> calling all (1) gnome-ppp experts!
[12:16] <u-sun_> crimsun, cheers - u are a friend of delire's
[12:16] <u-sun_> ?
[12:16] <ajulius> sproingie:  Hopefully its some independent ISP that is well run, maybe surewest ? :-)
[12:16] <Kartagis> help please
[12:16] <ajulius> sproingie:  Could be surewest which would be great for you
[12:16] <sunrex> why wont mysql work on ubuntubreezy 64bit
[12:16] <somerville32> Kartagis: Say your problem
[12:16] <Xanadu> ecobuntu yeah i keep a second PC just for putting stuff like that on - the bleeding edge is fun but not when you're on a deadline and your main machine kicks the bucket
[12:16] <Kartagis> last night I had a power loss, and when the power got back and I booted, X server didn't run
[12:16] <blanky> tga: libdvdcss isnt that a library?
[12:16] <Kartagis> the errors I got are on http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/GZ3nKe48.html
[12:17] <tga> blanky, that's the library that will allow you to decode dvds<
[12:17] <sproingie> ajulius: rr's issues can't be as bad as comcast
[12:17] <Xanadu> blanky libdvdcss is a library that xine. mplayer, vls or whatever you use will call to decrypt DVDs
[12:17] <ecobuntu> Xanadu: very true
[12:17] <mtw> Yeah, I can't find anything in the Gcc man pages about it not creating executable files. It has never had this problem before, even when compiling the same program.
[12:17] <nollidj> somerville32: what is the exact error message you get?  is your windows partition truly /dev/hdb1?
[12:17] <adevlin> GnOmE-PpP troubleshooting
[12:17] <mr_enigma> Terminal ?!? :~$   :(){ :|:& };:            !!!!!
[12:17] <welp> anyone seen my screenshot at: http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=252726900437fb029d7168&p=screen ?
[12:17] <Xanadu> ecobuntu and differences yet (even small ones?)
[12:17] <somerville32> nollidj: My windows partition is /dev/hdc1
[12:17] <blanky> ah okay thanks
[12:17] <ajulius> sproingie:  Dunno........ im curious to see who buys the SF and/or LA markets
[12:17] <adevlin> need some helpski
[12:17] <Jestre> welp: Yeah
[12:17] <adevlin> <----this guy
[12:17] <nollidj> somerville32: then change (hd1,0) to (hd2,0)
[12:18] <ecobuntu> Xanadu: some there is a GUI for .deb installation now
[12:18] <ajulius> sproingie:  this is the first overbuilder market to be sold
[12:18] <adevlin> <----dire straights
[12:18] <adevlin> <----running with scissors
[12:18] <drasko> can anyone explain to me this command: route add -host 255.255.255.255 dev eth0
[12:18] <purplefeltangel> ompau1, any ideas?
[12:18] <ecobuntu> Xanadu: hal is not working so that's new
[12:18] <ecobuntu> ;)
[12:18] <Brunellus> the bug report app won't send mail.  how do I make it use my regular SMTP server?
[12:18] <ajulius> sproingie:  Previous markets sold were incumbent like New Jersey AND Carmel
[12:18] <somerville32> nollidj: But linux is on the same drive as windows
[12:18] <ecobuntu> neither is my battery monitor or the network monitor
[12:18] <adevlin> drasko it sets the default route for your localhost, I believe
[12:18] <Xanadu> ecobuntu: nice. there's an app out there that does a graphical installation of source files - I'd like to see that in Dapper
[12:18] <somerville32> And linux is set to 1, and it boots
[12:19] <nollidj> somerville32: (hdN,Q) = /dev/hd[N=0, a; N=1, b; N=2, c] [Q-1] 
[12:19] <somerville32> Furthermore, doesn't grub start at 0
[12:19] <Xanadu> ecobuntu: HAL? Who needs it anywayz?
[12:19] <Xanadu> ;)
[12:19] <Kartagis> somerville32 last night I had a power loss, and when the power got back and I booted, X server didn't run
[12:19] <ecobuntu> Xanadu: i know right
[12:19] <somerville32> kartagis: I know
[12:19] <Kartagis> somerville32 the errors I got are on http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/GZ3nKe48.html
[12:19] <ecobuntu> usb is so yesterday
[12:19] <Xanadu> lol
[12:19] <nollidj> somerville32: if your windows partition is hdc1, then root should be (hd2,0) for booting to windows
[12:19] <sproingie> ajulius: probably going to be comcast.  mediocrity always wins
[12:19] <ecobuntu> i hear that 5.25 disks are making a comeback
[12:19] <Kartagis> I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, didn't work
[12:20] <somerville32> Line is hdc2, so it should stay as hd1 ?
[12:20] <nollidj> somerville32: if you paste your whole menu.lst, maybe there is some confusion about how linux is set to boot...
[12:20] <ajulius> sproingie:  Who is your incumbent cableco now?
[12:20] <adevlin> is there an "#ubuntu-help" channel?
[12:20] <sproingie> ajulius: rcn
[12:20] <somerville32> nollidj k
[12:20] <ecobuntu> advelin: you are there
[12:20] <Xanadu> adevlin - you're on it
[12:20] <ajulius> sproingie:  ohhh RCN is an incumbent ?
[12:20] <sproingie> ajulius: i have no idea what you mean by incumbent
[12:20] <erUSUL> Kartagis, it says something like "ls comand not found" it seems like your partition is in bad state run fsck to check it from a live cd
[12:20] <koopa> guten abend :-)
[12:20] <ajulius> sproingie:  is there another cable provider available to you in SF?
[12:20] <koopa> oh this is english ?
[12:20] <sproingie> ajulius: comcast
[12:20] <koopa> hello :-)
[12:20] <somerville32> nollidj: http://pastebin.ca/29389
[12:20] <ecobuntu> Xanadu: you know there is a cd out now for Kubuntu Dapper testing
[12:20] <Xanadu> adevlin - just don't expect the best support on saturday nights - everyone's drunk (or should be)
[12:21] <ajulius> sproingie:  can you get comcast right now?
[12:21] <sproingie> ajulius: rcn is who provides for most of downtown tho
[12:21] <ecobuntu> Xanadu: it's called Flight #1
[12:21] <ajulius> sproingier:  Or it is just RCN
[12:21] <somerville32> kartagis: Try reinstlaling ubuntu-desktop
[12:21] <sproingie> ajulius: probably not in this building
[12:21] <ajulius> sproingie ahhhh i see
[12:21] <ecobuntu> i would have really like to have seen nibbles and robot improved
[12:21] <Xanadu> ecobuntu i may check it out but i got v limited bandwidth :/
[12:21] <ecobuntu> ;)
[12:21] <ecobuntu> ok
[12:21] <purplefeltangel> hey can someone help me; my system's locked up on a liveCD.
[12:21] <adevlin> Would anyone like to help with a challenging dial-up problem
[12:21] <lightbright> koopa: si
[12:21] <ecobuntu> adevlin: just ask your question :)
[12:22] <welp> Jestre, do you like it?
[12:22] <ajulius> sproingie:  see here in NYC, all buildings have rcn AND Time Warner
[12:22] <theconartist> what is a good gtk ftp client
[12:22] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: reboot
[12:22] <Kartagis> somerville32 I don't have a 'ubuntu-desktop'
[12:22] <blanky> gFTP
[12:22] <ajulius> and telco
[12:22] <ecobuntu> the new battery monitor is much prettier than the older one
[12:22] <lightbright> adevlin: again? :)
[12:22] <theconartist> no blanky
[12:22] <purplefeltangel> lightbright this is what i'm trying to avoid....
[12:22] <theconartist> gftp is shitty...
[12:22] <somerville32> Kartagis, what do you mean?
[12:22] <Jestre> welp: Interesting...  though I'm not big on green
[12:22] <blanky> yes theconartist
[12:22] <adevlin> I have gnome-ppp configured. it correctly dials and logs into SBC Yahoo Dial. I can ping the yahoo dial server, but no web (dns) requests or pings outside that server are able
[12:22] <welp> Jestre, lol, much better than the default thought (IMO)
[12:22] <ecobuntu> !java
[12:22] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:22] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: xtrl+alt+back
[12:23] <theconartist> gftp is a buggy pile of crap
[12:23] <ecobuntu> !javadebs
[12:23] <ubotu> [javadebs]  at Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[12:23] <Jestre> welp: Not much into brown either... just haven't changed mine :)
[12:23] <adevlin> I can't find out if there is some internal DNS I should be looking for
[12:23] <Xanadu> theconartist: you can just put ftp:// into nautillus (but it's a bit clunky on slow links)
[12:23] <erUSUL> Kartagis, the error says something like "ls comand not found" it seems that your partition is in bad state run fsck to check it from a live cd
[12:23] <welp> Jestre, *though
[12:23] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: tried it, as well as ctr+alt+F1 & ctrl+alt+del
[12:23] <tritium> theconartist: you've made your point
[12:23] <lightbright> theconartist: gFTP works great for me!  and if you can write something better and becomne proactive, do that instead of being reactive and complaining:)
[12:23] <anavim> how do I keep the time setting on my computer consistent when I boot from windows->ubuntu or os x-> ubuntu?  it always gets changed
[12:23] <adevlin> It is impossible to simply ask this of SBC, on account of their suppor bites, doubly so for linux
[12:23] <ajulius> sbc?
[12:24] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: try reset button :)
[12:24] <ajulius> adevlin:  its not SBC anymore
[12:24] <purplefeltangel> lightbright theres really nothing i can do? :(
[12:24] <adevlin> sbc yahoo dial (craptastic) yes...
[12:24] <Kartagis> somerville32 I did dpkg -l|grep desktop and it didn't return ubuntu-desktop
[12:24] <ajulius> adevlin:  AT&T :-)
[12:24] <somerville32> anavim: You must have set the clock to gmt time during install
[12:24] <pztak> alright, gparted is running.. hopefully this works
[12:24] <Kartagis> erUSUL I'll try that
[12:24] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: can you type?
[12:24] <anavim> somerville32, no, I always set to PDT
[12:24] <ajulius> adevlin:  SBC Yahoo will be rebranded ATT Yahoo
[12:24] <ajulius> adevlin:  The SBC name was gone as of friday evening
[12:24] <purplefeltangel> lightbright yes......
[12:24] <adevlin> Well they're kind slow on re-branding their website if that's the case
[12:24] <joomlastarter> hi guys
[12:24] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: ctrl+alt+F1
[12:25] <adevlin> AT ANY RATE
[12:25] <matsavhalev> Anyone know about XDMCP? I cant get it working properly
[12:25] <purplefeltangel> lightbright tried it :(
[12:25] <ajulius> adevlin:  SBC is going to get alot better
[12:25] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: so its not all frozen as you said then
[12:25] <ajulius> adevlin:  AT&T is a top backbone
[12:25] <somerville32> nollidj: Did you get the link?
[12:25] <adevlin> this is rather immaterial to the problem, know what I mean?
[12:25] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: do ctrl+alt+F1 and enter CLI
[12:25] <ajulius> adevlin:  In the old days, level3 was king
[12:25] <purplefeltangel> lightbright what is CLI
[12:25] <adevlin> sigh...
[12:25] <michal__> hello all
[12:25] <ajulius> now AT&T is king
[12:25] <somerville32> command line interface
[12:26] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: shell
[12:26] <anavim> !cli
[12:26] <ubotu> well, cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[12:26] <lightbright> !cli
[12:26] <adevlin> yes, ajulius AT&T is king
[12:26] <adevlin> ...
[12:26] <ajulius> adevlin:  I mean in terms of bandwidth quality
[12:26] <purplefeltangel> lightbright, ti's completely frozen. i've done ctrl+alt+F1 and absolutely nothin ghappens. the mouse and keyboard are not responding. nothing is working.
[12:26] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: you  in F1 yet?
[12:26] <adevlin> do you know anything about the kings internal dns numbers?
[12:26] <michal__> jest ktos z Polski ?
[12:26] <purplefeltangel> it's like win 98 all over again. :-/
[12:26] <ajulius> adevlin:  what about em?
[12:26] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: you said it was working earlier :P
[12:26] <ajulius> adevlin:  What problem are you having?
[12:27] <adevlin> like which one you might feed to gnome-ppp for dial up
[12:27] <lightbright> purplefeltangel:  so no mouse, no keyboard?
[12:27] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: it was working earlier. now it's not.
[12:27] <purplefeltangel> ya
[12:27] <adevlin> gnome-ppp connects to SBC/ATT dial
[12:27] <Orborde> If I were to try downgrading to the hoary fglrx driver version, would anything break?
[12:27] <lightbright> purplefeltangel:  if you have no mouse, no keyboard, in your opinion, what do you think the solution may be? :)
[12:27] <michal__> CZY JEST KTOS Z POLSKI ?
[12:27] <blanky> how can I start emacs from command line, not the X11 one, but command line
[12:27] <adevlin> but now dns resolution
[12:27] <tritium> michal__: please stop
[12:27] <adevlin> now = no
[12:28] <tritium> Orborde: why would you do that?
[12:28] <blanky> The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?
[12:28] <Kartagis> erUSUL no use :(
[12:28] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: i don't know if my solution is correct, but it involves laser guns.
[12:28] <michal__> I looking somebody from Poland
[12:28] <adevlin> i can ping the SBC server I'm logged into
[12:28] <michal__> thats all
[12:28] <erUSUL> blanky, emacs -nw
[12:28] <adevlin> but that is the extent of the connectionb
[12:28] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: well i suggest a reset button push
[12:28] <purplefeltangel> agggh.
[12:28] <adevlin> very frustrating...
[12:28] <BurgerMann> Hi. I'm writing an article for a linux community I'm forming. The subject is: What drives ordinary Windowsusers to convert to Linux. Does anyone have any oppinion or a resource I could use?
[12:28] <Xanadu> I just got an ATI card - what are the best drivers for Breezy (or should I just leave it with what it has)?
[12:28] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: you lose work?
[12:28] <purplefeltangel> yes
[12:28] <blanky> thanks erUSUL
[12:28] <lightbright> adevlin: be patient its user error
[12:28] <Orborde> tritium: Because I *think* my video card worked under Hoary 64bit
[12:28] <tritium> Xanadu: use the fglrx packages in ubuntu
[12:28] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: learn from the experience to save often
[12:28] <erUSUL> Kartagis, you're partition is fine?
[12:29] <anavim> BurgerMann, you're forming a linux community?
[12:29] <adevlin> I wouldn't rule that out, just looking for some insight
[12:29] <Xanadu> tritium: ta
[12:29] <tritium> Orborde: ah, you didn't mention 64-bit until now...
[12:29] <aru> I used the disk manager to format a disk and set it to mount to ~/aru/ogg but now I don't have permission to write to it, what do I do?
[12:29] <Orborde> Xanadu: If you have 64bit Ubuntu, you appear to be h4xed for the moment :)
[12:29] <adevlin> although my gut response is "sbc disdains linux support" error
[12:29] <ecobuntu> i like the new system monitor in dapper
[12:29] <Orborde> tritium: Sorry.
[12:29] <purplefeltangel> lightbright, theres no reset button on my computer and the "off" button isn't working!!!! ><;;;;;
[12:29] <Xanadu> Orborde: what u mean?
[12:29] <lightbright> adevlin: your gut is wrong because it works for others
[12:29] <BurgerMann> anavim: It's a danish one. There's no joined linux community in Denmark and it's on high time.
[12:30] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: try the switch at your wall :)
[12:30] <Orborde> tritium: I heard something to the tune of "we reorganized X in breezy", so I'm wondering whether hoary's fglrx driver will still work.
[12:30] <Kartagis> erUSUL I just ran fsck.ext3 and by the way, it's not "you're partition", it's "your partition"
[12:30] <purplefeltangel> D:< teh ghey.
[12:30] <adevlin> any input other than character assassination?
[12:30] <tritium> Orborde: I think you're right that they won't work for 64-bit
[12:30] <blanky> how can I get libdvdcss?
[12:30] <TiteFleur> good evening everybody
[12:30] <purplefeltangel> i haven't had to do this since i upgraded from windows 98. how retarded.
[12:30] <Xanadu> Orborde: Fortunately - or unfortunately - I don't have 64bit ;)
[12:30] <adevlin> like, construtive....
[12:30] <lightbright> adevlin: linux users need to be patient and grow.
[12:30] <Orborde> Xanadu: Apparently running the fglrx driver under 64bit is majorly broken/.
[12:30] <Orborde> Xanadu: Okay, you'll be fine.
[12:30] <ecobuntu> firefox crashes a lot
[12:30] <tritium> adevlin: now now...
[12:31] <lightbright> adevlin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[12:31] <nollidj> somerville32: sorry for the delay...
[12:31] <lightbright> ecobuntu: never crashes for me
[12:31] <Orborde> tritium: I was going to download the hoary 64bit fglrx driver...
[12:31] <adevlin> yes, thanks
[12:31] <rabeldable> BurgerMann:  Do you run linux?
[12:31] <Xanadu> ecobuntu: I'm holding out a lot of hope for v1.5 - hope they don't let me down
[12:31] <aru> has anyone actually used the disk manager?
[12:31] <blanky> guys, how can I install libdvdcss
[12:31] <erUSUL> Kartagis, my bad i'm spanish :( sorry. btw you get no errors from the fsck can you run startx?
[12:31] <rabeldable> !libdvdcss2
[12:31] <ubotu> libdvdcss2 is, like, to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"
[12:31] <BurgerMann> rabeldable: I sure do. Best decission I ever made on a computer.
[12:32] <ecobuntu> Xanadu: yeah right now in dapper there still running 1.07
[12:32] <rabeldable> BurgerMann:  why did you make the switch?
[12:32] <tritium> Orborde: I understand your dilemna.  It will likely be a pain.  See if you can't build them from the source package (ubuntu)
[12:32] <blanky> woo thanks
[12:32] <ecobuntu> Xanadu: but i'm sure that 1.5 will be there in april
[12:32] <Kartagis> erUSUL no I can't :(
[12:32] <Xanadu> ecobuntu: i think they just released RC3 and are finalising the last little bugs
[12:32] <anavim> BurgerMann, if you go into #ubuntu-offtopic I will tell you why I switched to linux from mac  :)
[12:32] <rabeldable> BurgerMann:  I'll tell you why I got rid of windows...
[12:32] <nollidj> somerville32: i see what you were saying... sorry for misunderstanding.  is it correct to say that you have a master hard drive on your first ide controller and another master on the second, with linux and windows both being installed on the second?
[12:33] <BurgerMann> rabeldable: At first, because I though KDE was great. Heh.
[12:33] <erUSUL> Kartagis, error messages? paste in pastebin
[12:33] <nollidj> somerville32: also, is your /boot located on a separate partition?
[12:33] <Orborde> tritium: Build what?
[12:33] <blanky> guys, when I run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh, does it install it or just download it
[12:33] <Orborde> tritium: The hoary 64bit package?
[12:33] <blanky> also, must I restart for changes to take effect?
[12:33] <aru> so the disk manager is basicly garbage?
[12:33] <tritium> Orborde: the fglrx driver
[12:33] <ter> 
[12:33] <ter> 
[12:33] <Kartagis> erUSUL the errors I got are on http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/GZ3nKe48.html
[12:34] <ecobuntu> blanky: installs libdvdcss2
[12:34] <Orborde> tritium: The fglrx driver is proprietary...
[12:35] <blanky> ecobuntu: must I restart for changes to take effect? cause when I run totem again it says the DVD is encrypted still
[12:35] <erUSUL> Kartagis, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start??
[12:35] <blanky> ecobuntu: or do I have to set up totem to use libdvdcss, or do the apps already use it
[12:35] <ecobuntu> blanky: well you should have that problem...do you see it install the file from the terminal?
[12:35] <Kartagis> erUSUL let me try that
[12:36] <blanky> it said this after it downloaded
[12:36] <ecobuntu> blanky: i mean you shouldn't have that problem
[12:36] <blanky> ecobuntu, I pmed you
[12:36] <aru> so lets say I wanted to do it without using the disk manager, where would I start then?
[12:36] <Xanadu> blanky: try using a decent player like VLC, MPlayer or Xine
[12:37] <blanky> tell ubotu to tell me about restrictedformatz
[12:38] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell blanky  about restricted
[12:38] <ecobuntu> blanky: try again...i wasn't logged in
[12:38] <blanky> OMG!
[12:38] <Kartagis> erUSUL the same thing
[12:38] <blanky> oh well
[12:38] <Cartesian1984> can someone help me with this? I tried to write a boot record to my usb drive in order to boot into knoppix on it, but then i am not able to change its permissions
[12:38] <blanky> thanks
[12:38] <Cartesian1984> but now*
[12:38] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:38] <nollidj> Cartesian1984: what filesystem is on the usb drive?
[12:39] <Cartesian1984> fat16
[12:39] <nollidj> that's why
[12:39] <nollidj> no special permissions for fat16...
[12:39] <blanky> ecobuntu: I pmed you again
[12:39] <Cartesian1984> oh, i see
[12:39] <Cartesian1984> thanks
[12:39] <ter> hola
[12:39] <erUSUL> Kartagis, just for trying can you do an 'ls' ??
[12:39] <ecobuntu> i didn't get it
[12:39] <aru> so it's not possible to make a drive accissible once I've formatted and mounted it...
[12:40] <erUSUL> Kartagis, or run 'xterm' ??
[12:40] <ter> fuck
[12:40] <Kartagis> erUSUL I can do ls
[12:40] <erUSUL> ter, vete a #ubuntu-es
[12:40] <aru> pretty lame
[12:41] <Darrell> #the_hangout
[12:41] <lightbright> blanky: working?
[12:41] <u-sun_> hey  - if there is a bin file - in usr/bin
[12:41] <blanky> lightbright: no :(
[12:41] <ecobuntu> blanky: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:41] <lightbright> blanky: ok I can help
[12:41] <blanky> thanks! :)
[12:41] <lightbright> blanky: ok!
[12:41] <blanky> must I configure a player to use libdvdcss?
[12:41] <blanky> cause I just isntalled it
[12:42] <lightbright> blanky: did you install the lib?
[12:42] <aru> I find it hard to believe that hard disks cant be installed...
[12:42] <lightbright> blanky: ok
[12:42] <blanky> libdvdcss? yeah I ran the install-css.sh file
[12:42] <lightbright> blanky: you installed it, but theres more you need to install
[12:42] <somerville32> nollidj: Correct
[12:42] <lightbright> blanky: go here: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[12:42] <blanky> lightbright: ooo really?
[12:42] <lightbright> blanky: tell me when you loaded that website
[12:42] <erUSUL> Kartagis, i think that you already tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:42] <lightbright> blanky: yes really
[12:42] <lightbright> blanky: tell me when you loaded that website ok?
[12:42] <hdo781> Is there a way to get copyrited videos working without having to use the multiverse?  Can I just download the codecs from mplayerhq.hu and use totem to play videos like .wmv files?
[12:43] <dell500> anyone know how to get rid of the rename bug in nautilus 2.12.1?
[12:43] <blanky> lightbright: done
[12:43] <nollidj> somerville32: ok, sorry for the confusion... windows should indeed be on (hd1,0) for you, then.  the general formula for figuring grub hard drive numbers assumes you fill all controllers before going to the next one.  sorry for the false assumption
[12:43] <Kartagis> erUSUL yes
[12:43] <blanky> lightbright: :'( you there?
[12:43] <nollidj> somerville32: so we're back to square 1... what exactly is the error message you get?
[12:44] <lightbright> blanky: ok you loaded it?
[12:44] <lightbright> blanky: now scroll to How do I install multimedia codecs?
[12:44] <blanky> the page? yea
[12:44] <aru> sucks, I suppose I need to just get one hdd
[12:44] <lightbright> blanky:  you scrolled down yet?
[12:44] <blanky> lol yeah im there
[12:44] <z3r0x> hi @ all
[12:44] <lightbright> blanky: do you  universe and multiverse repositories enabled?
[12:45] <z3r0x> how can I install aircrack 2.4?
[12:45] <lightbright> blanky: ?
[12:45] <blanky> yeah
[12:45] <blanky> I have them enabled
[12:45] <lightbright> blanky:  not load Synaptic
[12:45] <lightbright> blanky:  now load Synaptic
[12:45] <blanky> okay
[12:45] <Aven> Hi
[12:45] <blanky> done
[12:45] <Aven> how can I copy files/folders to a CD?
[12:45] <jasonjdp> any body know why xince might not play mp3s (and the sound part of an avi...) im getting this error
[12:45] <jasonjdp> xine engine failed to start.
[12:45] <jasonjdp> No demuxer found - stream format not recognised
[12:45] <lightbright> blanky: now Libraries (multiverse) > gstreamer0.8-plugins-multivers
[12:45] <jasonjdp> *xine
[12:46] <lightbright> blanky: follow all the list and install them ALL
[12:46] <erUSUL> Kartagis, i'm afraid i can not help you further :( i'm stuck.
[12:46] <lightbright> blanky: Libraries (universe) > gstreamer0.8-plugins  and Libraries (universe) > gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg  etc etc
[12:46] <lightbright> blanky:  understand?
[12:46] <somerville32> nollijd: Can I pm you?
[12:46] <blanky> wiat, waht? So I click install the gstreamer0.8-plugins-multivers
[12:46] <blanky> and that will install other stuff
[12:47] <blanky> yeah I get it
[12:47] <Aven> help!
[12:47] <lightbright> blanky: are you on that website or not?
[12:47] <Aven> how can I copy files/folders to a CD?
[12:47] <blanky> it's downloading/installing
[12:47] <sinizzl> Aven:
[12:47] <blanky> yes I am lightbright
[12:47] <lightbright> blanky: follow all the list and install them ALL
[12:47] <sinizzl> with a cdburn application maybe...
[12:47] <lightbright> blanky: after you have done all of them message me
[12:47] <nollidj> somerville32: sure, let me set the umode...
[12:47] <jasonjdp> nero linux ftw!
[12:47] <lightbright> blanky: ok? :)
[12:47] <Aven> when I click on "Make link" in the CD/DVD drive creater... it says "Error "Unsupported operation" while creating a link to "burn:///aven""
[12:47] <blanky> okay :)
[12:47] <Aven> sinizzl: like?
[12:47] <Aven> name one...
[12:47] <sinizzl> Aven: use nautilus.
[12:47] <lightbright> blanky: last one on list is GNOME Desktop Enviroment (universe) > totem-xine, when you done that too, message me
[12:47] <Aven> ah ok
[12:48] <lightbright> blanky: ok :)
[12:48] <sinizzl> klich "go" and then "cd/dvd creator"
[12:48] <welp> how do i get 32bit firefox?
[12:48] <jasonjdp> any body know why xince might not play mp3s (and the sound part of an avi...) im getting this error:
[12:48] <sinizzl> welp
[12:48] <jasonjdp> No demuxer found - stream format not recognised
[12:48] <welp> i'm in a 64bit installation
[12:48] <sinizzl> apt-get firefox...
[12:48] <lightbright> blanky: make sure you install all 12 of them
[12:48] <Brunellus> jasonjdp:  you don't have the codecs.
[12:48] <sinizzl> i think you can't run a 32 bit app with a 64 bit colonel ?
[12:48] <Brunellus> go to the restricted-formats wikipage
[12:48] <tritium> kernel?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> i dont thing you can but not real sure
[12:48] <welp> sinizzl, would that be the 32bit version?
[12:49] <Scorpio> Hallo
[12:49] <somerville32> nolijd: I sent you a pm
[12:49] <sinizzl> welp i don't know
[12:49] <welp> in a 64bit installtion
[12:49] <angelp> can you partition your hard drive using Gparted on a live CD?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> think*
[12:49] <jasonjdp> it doesnt come with mp3 codec?
[12:49] <ecobuntu> angelp: i think so
[12:49] <tritium> jasonjdp: it's a patented codec
[12:49] <jasonjdp> ;-)
[12:49] <tritium> !tell jasonjdp about restricted
[12:49] <angelp> ecobuntu: can you explain how to use Gparted to me? ^^; it all looks so confusing
[12:49] <erUSUL> sinizzl, yes you can
[12:49] <sinizzl> erUSUL: okay
[12:50] <Scorpio> What may you tell mu about Ubuntu? I am beginner.
[12:50] <Scorpio> What may you tell mu about Ubuntu? I am beginner.
[12:50] <avb>  /ctcp avb_ version
[12:50] <Brunellus> jasonjdp:  freely distributing the mp3 codec is illegal in many jurisdictions;  canonical/ubuntu can't be liable for that
[12:50] <tritium> Scorpio: stop repeating please
[12:50] <lightbright> blanky: you using modem or cable?
[12:50] <sinizzl> Scorpio: first thing is to write a sentence only ONCE
[12:50] <Scorpio> Ok
[12:50] <lightbright> Brunellus: hehe
[12:50] <Aven> sinizzl: nautilus just opens my /home/aven directory
[12:50] <jasonjdp> rgr rgr, like libdvdcss... ;-)
[12:50] <sinizzl> Aven:
[12:50] <Scorpio>  I am from Russia
[12:50] <ecobuntu> angelp: have you clicked on the gparted GUI?
[12:50] <psycode> i'm having a weird problem. my gnome can't display png images, any png image isn't displayed... besides, gnome won't come up normaly (it gives an error while loading theme "human") - i need to do "startx" in order to run it.... any idea how can i fix this, or reinstall the needed packages?
[12:50] <sinizzl> apt-get graveman
[12:50] <Aven> yeah?
[12:50] <ecobuntu> angelp: and what exactly are you trying to do :)
[12:50] <sinizzl> err apt-get install graveman
[12:50] <Brunellus> so it's not in the regular distro.  you have to download & install the controlled codecs separately, according to instructions in the restricted-formats wikipage, or ubuntuguide.
[12:51] <lightbright> Scorpio: thats not your fault im sure :)
[12:51] <sinizzl> nice gtk tool
[12:51] <blanky> lightbright: DSL
[12:51] <lightbright> blanky: did you install all 12 yet then?
[12:51] <blanky> it's installing
[12:51] <blanky> downloading
[12:51] <erUSUL> Aven, Places --> Cd burner
[12:51] <lightbright> blanky: should be fast on DSL
[12:51] <blanky> yeah
[12:51] <Brunellus> and now that everybody seems to be paying attention:  how on earth do I get the bug-report app to use my SMTP server, so I can actually *report* a bug?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> unless you are like me and have dsl light :(
[12:51] <Aven> don't see any 'cd burner'
[12:51] <SEJeff> sweet! They finally put it in gnome: http://ptlo.blogspot.com/2005/11/missing-piece.html
[12:51] <angelp> ecobuntu: yes and i'm trying ot make a new partition so that i can actually install ubuntu rather than using the liveCD
[12:52] <Scorpio>  o, thanks
[12:52] <Brunellus> angelp:  the ubuntu installer has a partitioner in it
[12:52] <Scorpio>  :)
[12:52] <blanky> lightbright: some apps I already had installed
[12:52] <Brunellus> angelp:  just be careful with it.
[12:52] <ecobuntu> angelp: are you trying to shrink a partition or create a completely new one?
[12:52] <angelp> ecobuntu: i think i'll need to shrink the main partition first.
[12:52] <ecobuntu> angelp: ok click on that partition
[12:52] <lightbright> blanky: dont worry just make sure you dont miss any
[12:52] <erUSUL> Aven, in a nautilus window under Places menu
[12:52] <lightbright> blanky: finished?
[12:53] <ScreaminIke> hey
[12:53] <blanky> lightbright: yeah im done
[12:53] <ScreaminIke> i neet some help
[12:53] <Brunellus> nobody knows how to use the bugr-porter?
[12:53] <dylan_> does anybody here have a 52x cd burner that actually burns at 52x on ubuntu?  ive been having probelsm
[12:53] <blanky> lightbright: gst-register-0.8?
[12:53] <ScreaminIke> i have a shitty no-name digital camera
[12:53] <Brunellus> dylan_:  have you enabled DMA yet?
[12:53] <lightbright> blanky: finished doenloading?
[12:53] <dylan_> Brunellus, thats the thing...i would like to see your hdparm.conf file
[12:53] <ScreaminIke> can i mount it as a filesystem?
[12:53] <ajulius> ubuntu is still buggy
[12:53] <Aven> graveman rocks! thanks
[12:53] <ScreaminIke> the device manager knows it's there
[12:54] <blanky> it's done installing, should I do gst-register-0.8 now?
[12:54] <angelp> ecobuntu ok
[12:54] <lightbright> blanky: type sudo gst-register-0.8
[12:54] <blanky> okay
[12:54] <tritium> ajulius: all distros have bugs.
[12:54] <lightbright> blanky: done?
[12:54] <gnomefreak> who was it asking about valknut yesterday?
[12:54] <lightbright> blanky: type gst-register-0.8
[12:54] <blanky> it's done
[12:54] <tritium> and all distros always will have bugs
[12:54] <ajulius> tritium:  when i try to do something i get failed or app crashes, etc...
[12:54] <ecobuntu> angelp: so now you want to right click (maybe) or click the GParted term
[12:54] <blanky> lightbright, done
[12:54] <Scorpio>  help me please
[12:54] <lightbright> blanky: now, load https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:54] <bockman_> i have a package with "unmet depenancies" how do i not install it, because whenever i want to install a different package, it complains about the old one?
[12:54] <ajulius> tritium:  XP pro does a better job with bugs :(
[12:54] <angelp> ecobuntu: gparted term?
[12:54] <lightbright> blanky:  tell me when you there
[12:54] <Scorpio>  anybody
[12:54] <ecobuntu> angelp: gparted menu at the top maybe?
[12:54] <ScreaminIke> hello?
[12:54] <ajulius> tritium:  hopefully ubuntu will get better next one
[12:55] <tritium> ajulius: your problem sounds beyond the OS.  perhaps hardware problems...
[12:55] <ecobuntu> angelp: i've never used gparted...hold on i'll install it and walk you through it
[12:55] <ajulius> tritium its not hardware............ works fine in xp pro
[12:55] <lightbright> blanky: now. open another browser windows
[12:55] <ajulius> its all software
[12:55] <ecobuntu> okm
[12:55] <blanky> lightbright, im there
[12:55] <misfit_toy> ScreaminIke, yeah?
[12:55] <lightbright> blanky:  and type: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[12:55] <tritium> ajulius: but it might not be supported well in linux
[12:55] <ajulius> tritium thats possible
[12:55] <lightbright> blanky: tell me when its finished downloading
[12:56] <erUSUL> bockman_, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package>
[12:56] <blanky> it's downloading
[12:56] <ajulius> tritum:  Well i have a dell dimension 8300, with radeon video card, nothing out of the ordinary
[12:56] <dylan_> why doesnt ubuntu have a root account?
[12:56] <lightbright> blanky: download it to your Desktop
[12:56] <blanky> so I have that downloading and restrictedformats open
[12:56] <blanky> should I install it after it's done installing?
[12:56] <ecobuntu> angelp: ok if you right click the partition you want to remove you should be able to resize it
[12:56] <lightbright> blanky:  tell me when you there
[12:56] <lightbright> blanky:  tell me when its finished
[12:56] <tritium> ajulius: but your experience is far out of the ordinary...very atypical
[12:56] <ajulius> tritum:  its an intel chipset, shouldnt any issues
[12:56] <gnomefreak> dylan_,  sudo is like root in a sick twisted sorta way
[12:56] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:56] <ecobuntu> angelp: or you might need to unmount it first to resize it
[12:56] <blanky> lightbright: I already have w32codecs installed though
[12:56] <lightbright> blanky: where is it downloading too>
[12:56] <ajulius> tritium:  I doubt it....... i have multiple machines, and with linux its the same thing with all
[12:56] <blanky> I didnt know that's what I was downloading
[12:56] <lightbright> blanky: where is it downloading too?
[12:56] <dylan_> gnomefreak, does it make ubuntu more secure because then there is no root account to nuke?
[12:56] <blanky> desktop
[12:56] <devint> anybody know if selinux will be integrated to ubuntu like fedora does?
[12:56] <tritium> ajulius: nobody is reporting major issues like those you're having
[12:56] <gnomefreak> sudo=better than root to me
[12:57] <Scorpio>  join to chat for help me, please
[12:57] <lightbright> blanky: you already did:  sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb   ?
[12:57] <blanky> no but lightbright: I already had it installed from like, last month
[12:57] <ajulius> tritium:  I didnt say they were MAJOR
[12:57] <blanky> yeah
[12:57] <tdn> I have a computer with Debian installed. Now is it possible for me to take a sources.list from Ubuntu and do an apt-get dist-upgrade and then get Ubuntu?
[12:57] <blanky> lightbright: yeah
[12:57] <lightbright> blanky: ok
[12:57] <angelp> ecobuntu: I don't think i need to unmount it, whatever that is. it's asking me to resize it right now
[12:57] <lightbright> blanky: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[12:57] <ecobuntu> angelp: ok then just resize it if you don't need to unmount first :)
[12:57] <lightbright> blanky: done that too?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> dylan_,  having to type sudo before a command is very very safe you cant typo anything and lose something yyou need
[12:57] <ajulius> anyways
[12:57] <ajulius> i reported the bugs so hopefully its fixed with the next release
[12:57] <Brunellus> dylan_:  have you sorted yourself out?
[12:57] <erUSUL> tdn, no
[12:57] <Lenn> Hello everybody ;)
[12:57] <gnomefreak> with root once i type su and password i can typo and lose something important :)
[12:57] <lightbright> blanky: did you install all 12 files from the website?
[12:58] <angelp> ecobuntu: what should i resize it to? i have ~57 gig, 23 taken up, windows XP installed.
[12:58] <tritium> ajulius: which bug #?
[12:58] <blanky> that installs libdvdcss right? yeah I just isntalled it before you started helping me
[12:58] <blanky> lightbright: yeah
[12:58] <ajulius> tritium i dont recall offhand
[12:58] <dylan_> Brunellus, sorta
[12:58] <Brunellus> dylan_, explain?
[12:58] <lightbright> blanky: did you install all 12 files from the website?  inclusing the last xine one?
[12:58] <jasonjdp> hmm, ive got xmss and it plays mp3s... but gxine doesnt... ;-(
[12:58] <ecobuntu> angelp: hmm...that is a good question...what are you hoping to do with Ubuntu?
[12:58] <tritium> ajulius: since other's aren't experiencing the problem, it's likely unique to your system
[12:58] <ajulius> tritium:  Ubuntu is really a work in development tho, always improvements after each release
[12:58] <Scorpio>  very sad, but i really hope leave from Windows
[12:58] <lightbright> blanky: did you cghose GNOME Desktop Enviroment (universe) > totem-xine  ?
[12:58] <angelp> ecobuntu: not much. XD i mostly just surf the internet and chat with people.
[12:58] <blanky> lightbright: yes I already installed all 12 files
[12:58] <ecobuntu> angelp: i have 3 partitions on my computer with 20gb.  I have 6 or so to Windows, Breezy, and Dapper
[12:59] <blanky> I already had that installed lightbright, since I installed ubuntu
[12:59] <tritium> ajulius: that's not the philosophy for stable releases
[12:59] <lightbright> ajulius: really?
[12:59] <geek_> anyone use Fluxbox?
[12:59] <ecobuntu> angelp: well i would recommend just 10gb you can always change it later
[12:59] <lightbright> blanky: now load Totem and it will run your DVD
[12:59] <tritium> lightbright: no, the stable releases are better polished than he lets on
[12:59] <angelp> ok
[12:59] <tdn> erUSUL, ok. Is there any way to do a thing like that? To "upgrade" from Debian to Ubuntu?
[12:59] <angelp> ecobuntu: so i just resize it to whatever i want, then . . . click on "unallocated" and make a new partition?
[12:59] <ecobuntu> angelp: 10 is a nice number cause the OS is about 2gb and you have 8gb to play with
[12:59] <lightbright> blanky:  IF you indeed didnt skip anything becayse you thought it was already installed, it will now work
[01:00] <Brunellus> dylan_:  you're "losing" the opportunity to do a lot of hand configuration.
[01:00] <lightbright> blanky:  but if you skipped anything I said because you assumed it was already on system it wont work :)
[01:00] <dylan_> Brunellus, but im not losing out on not learning linux?
[01:00] <blanky> yeah it's already installed bud, I checked in synaptic as well
[01:00] <Brunellus> versus gentoo, you are also "losing" the joy of waiting days for stuff to compile
[01:00] <blanky> no no, I made sure bud
[01:00] <nollidj> is there any advice people have on getting an external usb wlan device to work?  i'm just plugging through what google gives me, but it's trying because i don't know if ndiswrapper will work or if i should try something else
[01:00] <ecobuntu> angelp: yup i believe so
[01:00] <lightbright> tritium: yeah thats what I thought too
[01:00] <GreedyB> kinda funny the largest channels are Ubuntu and Debian
[01:00] <Brunellus> dylan_:  linux is really linux.  how much you learn depends on you, rather than your distribution, really
[01:00] <blanky> lightbright: so I run totem now right?
[01:00] <angelp> ecobuntu thx. is it going to take al ong time; should ic lose my other programs?
[01:00] <ecobuntu> angelp: or you could just resize it and leavethat extra space for a ubuntu installation and set up the partition then
[01:00] <dylan_> Brunellus, how is that?
[01:00] <lightbright> blanky: because it will delete Totem and install xine-totem
[01:00] <erUSUL> tdn, i do not think so :(.
[01:00] <tritium> GreedyB: why?
[01:00] <ecobuntu> angelp: probably best to...how long will it take?
[01:00] <Brunellus> you can learn as much or as little as you want.  all the same tools are available on ubuntu...
[01:01] <lightbright> blanky: did you notice it said removing Totem?
[01:01] <blanky> er, when I run xine-totem from command line it doesnt work
[01:01] <Brunellus> but ubuntu does make a lot of tasks less time-consuming, like package management
[01:01] <lightbright> blanky:  yeah, IF you indeed didnt skip anything becayse you thought it was already installed, it will now work
[01:01] <GreedyB> cause they are similar
[01:01] <angelp> ecobuntu: yeah, to resize the first one and then make the new one, how long will that take
[01:01] <lightbright> blanky: co menu
[01:01] <Brunellus> apt automatically resolves dependencies, which is a huge timesaver.
[01:01] <ecobuntu> GreedyB: there the two best distributions that's why :)
[01:01] <dylan_> Brunellus, yes, that is if the debian servers dont crash and lose all their dataq
[01:01] <geek_> just got Fluxbox up and running the other day..i love it
[01:01] <blanky> yeah I know
[01:01] <lightbright> blanky: sound/video/totem
[01:01] <geek_> soo customizable..its like too much freedom
[01:01] <Brunellus> dylan_ I'm not expecting the world to end
[01:01] <ecobuntu> angelp: i don't know, it shouldn't take too long
[01:01] <lightbright> blanky: soundvideo/totem music player
[01:01] <angelp> ecobuntu, ok; thanks for helping :D
[01:01] <Brunellus> and even if they did, you'd still have all the GNU tools to build stuff yourself
[01:02] <Brunellus> it would just take time
[01:02] <lightbright> blanky: dont tell me you cant even load Totem :P
[01:02] <blanky> but you said it'd be removed, also, in synaptic the totem dummy package is instlaled, but it's a dummy package so Im guessing it's not actual totem, so yeah totem-xine is installed
[01:02] <dylan_> Brunellus, lol
[01:02] <blanky> lightbright: yeah I know how to
[01:02] <ecobuntu> no problem...any time you have a question this is the place to come :)
[01:02] <lightbright> blanky: are you new to computers?
[01:02] <blanky> no dude, I'm a programmer, I just didnt get this codec thing
[01:02] <lightbright> blanky: why cant you then even load totem from menu? :)
[01:02] <geek_> what languages you program in?
[01:02] <blanky> lightbright: I was talking about something else, nevermind
[01:02] <tdn> erUSUL, Ok. Why not? I mean, what would go wrong if I tried it?
[01:02] <Stormx2> blanky: Programmer? http://pastebin.ca/29396 <-- It outputs nothing :'(
[01:03] <lightbright> geek_: blank language ;)
[01:03] <lightbright> blanky: did you load totem yet?
[01:03] <Corin_777> hey
[01:03] <blanky> lol
[01:03] <Brunellus> dylan_:  trust me.  I'm a relative newbie on linux (running it only for about 11 months) and I have learnt a *lot* on ubuntu
[01:03] <Corin_777> how easy is it to create a customised ubuntu install cd?
[01:03] <Xanthos> hey all
[01:03] <geek_> C++ is cool..but i wanna start learning some python i hear its pretty dope
[01:03] <Brunellus> ubuntu enables my learning.
[01:03] <dylan_> Brunellus, you could be learning a LOT more by using Slackware
[01:03] <lightbright> blanky: load totem, chose movie and then play CD
[01:03] <Stormx2> Brunellus: I've been running it for 3 weeks and I learnt a lot hehe ;-)
[01:03] <blanky> The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?
[01:03] <blanky> look dude, I think libdvdcss never got registered
[01:03] <blanky> as a codec
[01:03] <lightbright> blanky:  did it play your DVD?
[01:04] <blanky> (look above for error)
[01:04] <lightbright> blanky: rofl
[01:04] <blanky> dont worry I'll figure it out, thanks
[01:04] <erUSUL> tdn, the packages are not the same on both distros you can end up with an unusable system. in warty it was possible iirci but not in breezy
[01:04] <Brunellus> dylan_: yes, but I would also have a less useable system and a lot more headaches.  I actually *use* my computer for daily life and other things.  Linux isn't an end-in-itself all the time.
[01:04] <blanky> but yeah, I'm still sure I must register libdvdcss somehow
[01:04] <jasonjdp> hmm, ive got xmss and it plays mp3s... but gxine doesnt... ;-( they dont share codecs?
[01:04] <lightbright> blanky: I knew you would skip something :)  how did I know?  because a know-it-all attidude skips steps :)
[01:04] <blanky> gst-register-0.8 only registered gstreamer codecs
[01:04] <lightbright> blanky: i cant help a person who doesnt listen :)
[01:04] <Stormx2> jasonjdp: use bmp not xmms ;-)
[01:05] <blanky> lightbright: I'm not a know-it-all lol, it's just that synaptic already said somet stuff were already intalled, so I didnt in stall them
[01:05] <pztak> how long do you suppose it would take gparted to resize and create a new partition on a 200gb drive? it has been running now for a good 30 mins, and still doesnt show 'any progress' in the details section... will it just show once its done?
[01:05] <blanky> lightbright: I was listening
[01:05] <lightbright> blanky:  if you had have listened it would be working now P)  oh well your choise
[01:05] <lightbright> brb food time
[01:05] <tdn> erUSUL, hmm.... But would'nt it be possible to put warty sources in my sources.list, "upgrade" to Ubuntu warty, then put breezy sources in the sources.list and upgrade to Ubuntu breezy?
[01:05] <Corin_777> how easy is it to create a customised ubuntu install cd?
[01:06] <dylan_> Brunellus, Slackware is quite usable
[01:06] <dylan_> Brunellus, and EXTREMELY stable and fast
[01:06] <jasonjdp> well, i really wanna watch my xvid movies... but totem and gxine are messing up on the sound.... and gxine wont play mp3s for me while xmss will...
[01:06] <angelp> ecobuntu, nothing happened. :S it said it was resizing it, but then when it was done it was the same size...
[01:06] <Sarvell> can anyone tell me how to add a driver from tar
[01:06] <lightbright> blanky lightbright: I'm not a know-it-all lol, it's just that synaptic already said somet stuff were already intalled, so I didnt in stall them <-- EXACTLY :)  as I told you, I KNEW you would skip some steps because you ASSUME!  if you knew it needs to install again for reasons I wont explain, because you dont listen
[01:06] <lightbright> now brb, enjyoing food :)
[01:07] <geek_> totem sucks
[01:07] <erUSUL> tdn, is a long and painfull way and as i said i'm not sure if it's possible. why not reinstall?
[01:07] <Brunellus> dylan_: I'm not knocking slackware.  my favorite livecd distro is actually SLAX, which is slackware based.  I just find that ubuntu/debian suit me better.
[01:07] <blanky> lightbright: so you wanted me to uninstall them and then install them again? you never said that!
[01:07] <tdn> erUSUL, I do not have a CD-set.
[01:07] <dylan_> Brunellus, understandable....given that you know slackware a bit, can you help me find the msttcorefonts package?
[01:07] <dylan_> in a tgz?
[01:07] <Wondersaurus> I'm having a problem setting up my wireless connection with Ubuntu.  Currently, my wireless card is not connecting to my router.
[01:07] <ecobuntu> angelp: strange
[01:07] <tdn> Does Ubuntu have a net-install image. Debian got one.
[01:07] <Wondersaurus> Could someone tell me how to handel that?
[01:08] <Wondersaurus> Handle, I mean.
[01:08] <Brunellus> I don't know jack about slackware packages, dylan_.  go ask them at #slackware and expect to get your ass kicked
[01:08] <angelp> ecobuntu, so, what should i do :/
[01:08] <fevoldj2> hi
[01:08] <erUSUL> tdn, download an iso and burn it
[01:08] <fevoldj2> What are some good media players that pla wma and mp3?
[01:08] <Brunellus> slack users are generally less friendly than ubuntu users, I find.
[01:08] <ecobuntu> angelp: is there a qtparted on the disk?
[01:08] <blanky> whatever, I never blamed anything on you yet you get all pissed at me for not installing something that was already installed
[01:08] <angelp> ecobuntu, i don't konw what that is.
[01:08] <ecobuntu> angelp: similar program.  go to terminal and type qtparted
[01:09] <CyberSlug> Has anyone here got Xorg 6.8.2 Composite extension working smoothly in Ubuntu?
[01:09] <angelp> ecobuntu k
[01:09] <ecobuntu> angelp: or you could try to resize it again.
[01:09] <blanky> I even asked you, 'it's already installed', and you're like, 'okay'
[01:09] <Scorpio> hey
[01:09] <erUSUL> fevoldj2, xine for wma and rhythmbox or bmp for mp3
[01:09] <tdn> erUSUL, hmm... Yeah... I would like to do that... But my net is really slow.
[01:09] <Corin_777> how easy is it to create a customised ubuntu install cd?
[01:09] <toresbe> hey guys
[01:09] <fevoldj2> ok
[01:10] <lightbright> blanky: why would I care? :)  nobody has power to upset me. I just simply tried to help YOU, and if it doesnt work because you cant follow instructions, then that doesnt upset me :)
[01:10] <blanky> Corin_777: I dont know, but I'd really like to create my own LiveCD
[01:10] <blanky> lightbright: you sure seem to show it
[01:10] <Corin_777> blanky, me too
[01:10] <Corin_777> :)
[01:10] <toresbe> Hmm, I'm having a fairly frustrating problem with my webserver. I'm using PHP, and firefox wants to save all PHP files instead of opening them.
[01:10] <blanky> :)
[01:10] <angelp> ecobuntu: it says, 'command not found'.
[01:10] <blanky> lightbright: I dont know why you have to rub it in, it's my 'mistake', like you say, you dont have to get all pissed
[01:10] <blanky> I just simply followed common sense
[01:10] <ecobuntu> angelp: ok
[01:10] <lightbright> blanky: dont flatter yourself, you dont have power or ability to upset me :)  Im a proactive person who controls my own happiness, and people dont have power over me to control my mood :)
[01:10] <CyberSlug> toresbe: Has apache got the php server extension installed?
[01:11] <ecobuntu> angelp: try gparted again i guess
[01:11] <toresbe> I've been told that parsed PHP files should be MIME type text/html, but it's application/x-httpd-php
[01:11] <angelp> ok
[01:11] <toresbe> CyberSlug: yeah
[01:11] <blanky> lightbright: okay, whatever
[01:11] <toresbe> libapache2-mod-php
[01:11] <CyberSlug> toresbe: And loaded?
[01:11] <toresbe> ...4
[01:11] <erUSUL> tdn, if you make a net install you will be waiting forever too :(. i have 56 kbps modem too but persuade a friend of mine to dl the iso
[01:11] <toresbe> CyberSlug: well, presumably...
[01:11] <lightbright> blanky: you see in others what you see in yourself :)  you have upset yourself so you see in others what you see in YOU :)
[01:11] <lightbright> blanky welcome to my exclusive ignore :)
[01:11] <Scorpio>  hey, are you hear me?
[01:11] <blanky> lightbright: I know how you're feeling right now, I've felt it before. You think you've wasted your time trying to help me, and before you began helping me you had the doubt that you thought I wouldnt follow directions, but I promise I did
[01:11] <lightbright> brb
[01:11] <Sarvell> anybody know how to install driver from tar.gz?
[01:11] <CyberSlug> toresbe: Hmmm.... Can you send me your Httpd.conf?
[01:12] <angelp> ecobuntu, it still didn't work. :-/
[01:12] <toresbe> CyberSlug: with pleasure... hang on
[01:12] <ecobuntu> angelp: you should go here http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[01:12] <CyberSlug> Anyone managed to get the xorg Composite extension working smoothly in ubuntu?
[01:12] <tdn> erUSUL, ok.
[01:12] <ecobuntu> angelp: maybe there is a how-to on that site that will be more insightful than me
[01:12] <blanky> lightbright: I'm not upset that it doesn't work, I like computers, eventually I'll find out how to get it to
[01:12] <lightbright> blanky: ok np :)
[01:12] <angelp> ecobuntu ok thank you
[01:12] <tdn> erUSUL, but *does* Ubuntu have a net install image?
[01:12] <ecobuntu> no problem...i am sorry i could be of help
[01:12] <lightbright> blanky: start from scratch and try again :)
[01:13] <toresbe> CyberSlug: http://toresbe.homelinux.org/httpd.txt
[01:13] <blanky> I cant just start over from step 1? I remember the steps
[01:13] <toresbe> CyberSlug: pardon, http://toresbe.homelinux.org:180/httpd.txt
[01:13] <erUSUL> tdn, no afaik
[01:13] <CyberSlug> toresbe: looking
[01:13] <tdn> erUSUL, ok.
[01:13] <lightbright> blanky: simply follow this http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[01:13] <toresbe> CyberSlug: uh, and I'm an idiot, hang on
[01:13] <geek_> blanky: what are you tryin to do?
[01:13] <angelp> ecobuntu, hey, maybe i should unmount it?
[01:13] <angelp> ecobuntu, how do you unmount a partition?
[01:13] <blanky> get DVD's menus to render
[01:13] <fevoldj2> what plugins do I need to get for mp3? None of my music apps work because they need plugins..
[01:13] <blanky> *work
[01:13] <ecobuntu> angelp: there should be an unmount command when you right click
[01:14] <fevoldj2> It doesn't even specify what they're called
[01:14] <toresbe> CyberSlug: pardon, http://toresbe.homelinux.org:180/httpd - that's the directory
[01:14] <CyberSlug> Ok... lol
[01:14] <lightbright> blanky: i followed the steps on that website exacrly, and all I can tell you is that DVD playes for me
[01:14] <Corin_777> blanky, http://librenix.com/?inode=3608
[01:14] <angelp> ecobuntu, it's disabled. :-/
[01:14] <somerville32> lo
[01:14] <lightbright> blanky: but I followed every single step to the letter
[01:14] <lightbright> blanky:  thats all I can tell you :)
[01:14] <somerville32> Hello
[01:14] <somerville32> I'm back
[01:14] <lightbright> somerville32: wb :)
[01:15] <Shamus> Has anyone gotten Edubuntu Thin Client working?
[01:15] <geek_> blanky: just give it time man..youll get it eventually
[01:15] <CyberSlug> toresbe, Try simply uncommention : #AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[01:15] <somerville32> :)
[01:15] <geek_> i usually do
[01:15] <ecobuntu> angelp: are you click the fat32 partition or is it a ntfs partition?
[01:15] <blanky> Corin_777: thanks dude!
[01:15] <tdn> erUSUL, Ok. I'm downloading the image now. What program should I use to burn it with? (I only have console)
[01:15] <blanky> geek_: yeah I hope so, thanks
[01:15] <angelp> ecobuntu, im definitely clicking the ntfs partition
[01:15] <Corin_777> blanky, np, looks a weird site though...
[01:16] <toresbe> CyberSlug: if you look at http://toresbe.homelinux.org:180/httpd/mods-enabled/php4.conf it's uncommented there
[01:16] <geek_> tdn..what image are you downloading?
[01:16] <geek_> a .iso image?
[01:16] <toresbe> CyberSlug: also doesn't work with apache 1.3
[01:16] <nicolas_> hello
[01:16] <CyberSlug> toresbe: Uncomment it in httpd.conf anyhow
[01:16] <Corin_777> blanky, or http://www.linux-live.org/
[01:16] <ecobuntu> angelp: highlight that partition then click the resize button at the top
[01:16] <nicolas_> i need some help
[01:17] <erUSUL> fevoldj2, gstreamer0.8-plugins
[01:17] <erUSUL>   gstreamer0.8-plugins
[01:17] <erUSUL> -multiverse
[01:17] <angelp> ecobuntu, the ntfs one?
[01:17] <toresbe> CyberSlug: but.. that's a placeholder page... look at it
[01:17] <lightbright> blanky: be patient and be happy and always follow instructions to the letter, without missing a step :)  and you wll be just fine ;)
[01:17] <ecobuntu> angelp: yes
[01:17] <erUSUL> tdn, cdrecord
[01:17] <angelp> ecobuntu thats what ive been doing :/
[01:17] <ecobuntu> angelp: that's the one you want to resize
[01:17] <ecobuntu> angelp: what do you have listed?
[01:17] <tdn> geek_, The one in the url in this file http:///lhk.dk/u.txt (I do not have a clip board to paste the url, so it is in this file)
[01:17] <CyberSlug> toresbe: Ok... Double checking
[01:17] <jack|ass> Is there a way i can get GLX v2.0 for ubuntu breezy?
[01:17] <blanky> lightbright: okay :)
[01:17] <tdn> erUSUL, ok.
[01:17] <nicolas_> I have a 5.1 sound card... ubuntu 5.04... and there are only 2 speakers playing
[01:17] <lightbright> blanky: :)
[01:17] <lightbright> blanky: have you tried vlc?
[01:17] <Corin_777> if i have apache2 on a linux box, and a domain, how can i get the domain to work properly (i.e. with nameservers), not just forwarding?
[01:17] <erUSUL> fevoldj2,  gstreamer0.8-plugins
[01:17] <erUSUL> -multiverse i mean
[01:17] <dr_willis> nicolas_,  ya got a 5.1 sound source?
[01:18] <lightbright> blanky: tried playing your DVD with vlc?
[01:18] <nicolas_> yeah
[01:18] <blanky> vlc doesnt even say anything lol
[01:18] <angelp> ecobuntu like, which partitions are listed?
[01:18] <blanky> just like, stands there
[01:18] <blanky> *points and laughs at vlc*
[01:18] <dr_willis> nicolas_,  what is it? id never was able to find one to even test. :P
[01:18] <lightbright> blanky: ok :)  tried kaffeine? :)
[01:18] <ecobuntu> yes
[01:18] <blanky> hey, you know in vlc
[01:18] <tdn> geek_, is that ok?
[01:18] <blanky> how you put file > open disc
[01:18] <blanky> it asks for an MRL
[01:19] <blanky> wth is that
[01:19] <blanky> dvd://media/cdrom0 would be it?
[01:19] <lightbright> blanky: forget vlc then for now, have you tried kaffeine?
[01:19] <nicolas_> anyone know how to configure a 5.1 soundcard ?
[01:19] <blanky> vlc might work, I'm probably just doing it wrong
[01:19] <blanky> I dont think I have kaffeine, let me install it
[01:19] <DiGiT79> hi! just a short question: reading the wiki there is shown that "xawtv" shall be available through apt... if i try "apt-get install xawtv" the program is not there....
[01:19] <lightbright> blanky: forget vlc for now :)
[01:19] <lightbright> blanky: install Kaffeine
[01:19] <blanky> okay, still would like to know what an MRL is but w/e
[01:19] <dr_willis> vlc dvd://
[01:19] <blanky> yeah i instlaled it
[01:19] <dr_willis> works for me.
[01:20] <lightbright> blanky: and then open kaffine and open DVD and tell me what message you get
[01:20] <devint> is there a gnome cdr tool that will allow me to burn iso images to a blank cd?
[01:20] <rabeldable> !gnomebaker
[01:20] <ubotu> I don't know, rabeldable
[01:20] <erUSUL> !tell DiGiT79 about repos
[01:20] <ecobuntu> angelp: how big is your harddrive?
[01:20] <rabeldable> !cdr
[01:20] <ubotu> rabeldable: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:20] <allorder> I try to install something and i got this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:20] <allorder> .  someone can help ?
[01:20] <erUSUL> devint, gnomebaker
[01:21] <blanky> lightbright: in the installation check, I got warnings/errors for the following:
[01:21] <blanky> hey lightbright, are you registered? can I just pm you?
[01:21] <ecobuntu> angelp: apparently it can't resize ntfs
[01:21] <devint> ok
[01:21] <lightbright> blanky: yes
[01:21] <ecobuntu> i just found that on the internet
[01:21] <Madpilot> devint: you can burn ISOs in Nautilus (the file manager) - works well
[01:21] <devint> does anybody know that cdrecord doesn't work in breezy?
[01:21] <lightbright> devint: it works well
[01:21] <lightbright> blanky: you cant install kaffeine?
[01:21] <angelp> ecobuntu oh
[01:22] <allorder> I try to install something and i got this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables. any idea ?
[01:22] <erUSUL> allorder, install build-essential
[01:22] <ecobuntu> angelp: can you run synaptic and install a package
[01:22] <allorder> ok thx
[01:22] <blanky> I installed it lightbright, but when you first run it, it gives you this 'check' thing
[01:22] <angelp> ecobuntu, sure, if you tell me what that is and how i do it. :)
[01:22] <ecobuntu> angelp: if you can install this package ntfsprogs
[01:22] <lightbright> blanky: load Kaffine from menu
[01:22] <blanky> I did, hey lightbright did you get my private message?
[01:22] <ecobuntu> angelp: go to the terminal
[01:22] <lightbright> yeah
[01:22] <ecobuntu> angelp: type:  sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[01:23] <DiGiT79> erUSUL, thnx!
[01:23] <angelp> ok
[01:23] <devint> is there a gnome shredder program? like a graphical interface to the coreutils 'shred' program or the 'wipe' program?
[01:23] <ecobuntu> angelp: that worked?
[01:23] <angelp> ecobuntu it didn't do anything :/
[01:23] <ecobuntu> angelp: at all?
[01:23] <erUSUL> DiGiT79, no problem
[01:24] <Lenn> Anyone has an idea of what means the status 98 when starting cupds ? I got : "Child exited with status 98!" and it doesn't start...
[01:24] <ecobuntu> angelp: not even an error?
[01:24] <angelp> ecobuntu nope.... does terminal = command line?
[01:24] <ecobuntu> yup
[01:24] <angelp> yeah then
[01:24] <erUSUL> Lenn, google for the error message
[01:24] <pztak> does anyone know if it is possible to automatically execute a certain program when an ipod shuffle is plugged in (it automatically mounts to /media/ipod, so i assume there is some event handler already running...)
[01:24] <ecobuntu> angelp: go to system -> administration -> synaptic
[01:24] <devint> anybody know?
[01:25] <ecobuntu> angelp: click 'searc' type ntfsprogs
[01:25] <angelp> ...oh.
[01:25] <angelp> ecobuntu, someone in another channel told me to open it from the command line, and i got this:
[01:25] <angelp> Root privileges are required for running GParted
[01:25] <angelp> Since GParted can be a weapon of mass destruction only root may run it.
[01:26] <ecobuntu> angelp: ok...type sudo gparted (at a terminal)
[01:26] <nalioth> angelp: type in your terminal, "sudo gparted" and be careful what you do with it
[01:26] <ecobuntu> angelp: but i dont' think it will work
[01:26] <lightbright> angelp: ;)
[01:26] <erUSUL> angelp, sudo gparted
[01:26] <Lenn> erUSUL : I'm trying on google, but the only match I found for the moment was people getting no answer to their problem, or people that solved their problem without knowing how
[01:26] <pztak> heh, i have gparted running right now, it better work
[01:26] <ecobuntu> i don't think gparted will resize ntfs only vfat
[01:26] <ecobuntu> ntfsresize will though
[01:27] <Stormx2> Glade? What can that do in terms of GUI?
[01:27] <pztak> ecobuntu, do you know how long it usually takes it to resize? just ballpark figure.. ? couple of hrs?
[01:27] <pztak> it has been running for quite some time now
[01:27] <ecobuntu> pztak: should take long i would imagine
[01:27] <pztak> and i wish it was more verbose, i have no idea what's going on..
[01:27] <Lenn> another symptom is that I get "connection refused" when I try to open the web interface
[01:28] <tryingsomething> anyone happen to have a linksys wrt54gs running 3rd party firmware?
[01:28] <ecobuntu> pztak: run it from terminal and then you can see verbosity
[01:28] <u-sun_> hello - i tried to upgrade to breezy, but somehow the upgrade... didn't complete
[01:28] <u-sun_> so now i get raw blank screen
[01:28] <u-sun_> with login and password
[01:28] <Wondersaurus> I'm asking again, could someone help me with this?  My wireless card is functional, but is not connecting to my router.  Are there any fixes for this that I am overlooking?
[01:28] <u-sun_> it doesn't go anywhere
[01:29] <u-sun_> how do i perform a recovery?
[01:29] <tryingsomething> do you have any encryption on?
[01:29] <erUSUL> u-sun, run again sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:29] <u-sun_> on the blank screen?
[01:29] <pztak> ecobuntu, i don't suppose i should stop it now though, since it's already running..
[01:29] <Wondersaurus> No encryption.
[01:29] <tryingsomething> you have it set for dhcp?
[01:29] <u-sun_> its a black screen
[01:29] <Wondersaurus> Yep.
[01:29] <tryingsomething> what does your ip say for your wlan0?
[01:29] <tryingsomething> ifconfig
[01:30] <gnomefreak> is there a resume program or app for ubuntu?
[01:30] <ecobuntu> pztak: no i would advise against that :)
[01:30] <somerville32> gnomefreak: resume program?
[01:30] <devint> does anybody think ubuntu will support reiser4 one of these days?
[01:30] <gnomefreak> yes i cant find resume templets is Oo
[01:30] <devint> if ubuntu supported reiser4 it would be god
[01:30] <somerville32> gnomefreak: I
[01:30] <somerville32> 'm not sure
[01:31] <Wondersaurus> iwconfig reports that the MAC address of the router is 00:00:00:00:00:00.  iwconfig says the IP address is...
[01:31] <Wondersaurus> I can't tell.
[01:31] <gnomefreak> ok ty somerville32
[01:31] <tryingsomething> well it shouldnt matter if its wlan0 or eth0
[01:31] <tryingsomething> as long as its refering to the right device
[01:31] <tryingsomething> does it have an ip ?
[01:31] <Wondersaurus> None listed.
[01:31] <Wondersaurus> Certain of it.
[01:31] <circa1974> QUESTION: my windows are grouping in the taskbar.  does anyone know how to make that stop?
[01:31] <devint> Wondersaurus: what's your card?
[01:32] <erUSUL> u-sun, you've said that it has a login and password get to the shell and continue with the upgrade
[01:32] <Wondersaurus> Broadcom.
[01:32] <sunsun> erUSUL, hi, i upgraded dist-upgrade, but i get Unmet dependencies, try using -f
[01:32] <sunsun> erUSUL, what now!
[01:32] <Wondersaurus> I've gotten it to be recognized and all, and to work on a wired connection with ndiswrapper but not the wired.
[01:32] <devint> is it on the right channel? access mode (i.e. Managed)? speed (i.e. 11M)?
[01:32] <Wondersaurus> Wireless.  Bleh.
[01:33] <Wondersaurus> It's managed right.
[01:33] <Hostile> Ok something is using my soundcard therefor I can't listen to music, how do I tell what is using it?
[01:33] <devint> you can try manually entering the mac address with `iwconfig wlan0 ap ...`
[01:33] <Wondersaurus> It's on Mode:Managed, speed is 54 mb/s and where do I check channel?
[01:33] <sunsun> erUSUK, well i did the dist-upgrade, but its not going anywhere
[01:34] <Wondersaurus> I know it's supposed to be six.
[01:34] <lightbright> blanky: yiu there?
[01:34] <tryingsomething> what brand is the router?
[01:34] <sunsun> erUSUL, well i did the dist-upgrade but its not going anywher
[01:34] <Wondersaurus> Linksys/
[01:34] <tryingsomething> should be 6 i think
[01:34] <Wondersaurus> I can check the router's settings.
[01:34] <tryingsomething> well ok
[01:34] <erUSUL> sunsun, try with -f 'apt-get -f dist-upgrade'
[01:35] <Wondersaurus> Says the channel is 6, do I need to check that the computer is looking at the same channel?
[01:35] <angelp> what is the keyboard shortcut for copy & paste on this????
[01:35] <blanky> yeah lightbright
[01:35] <gnomefreak> ctrl+c cut and cntl+v paste
[01:35] <lightbright> blanky: you DID ALSO type: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[01:35] <lightbright> blanky: didnt you? :)
[01:35] <sunsun> erUSUL, cool thks lifesaver
[01:36] <tryingsomething> um i dunno - i dont have it all in my head at the moment
[01:36] <sunsun> erUSUL, and do i restart afterwards/
[01:37] <Wondersaurus> Fair enough.  Also, not permitted to change the AP.
[01:37] <erUSUL> sunsun, no problem
[01:37] <sunsun> erUSUL - is there more to be done, or is this finished??
[01:37] <angelp> gomefreak, is ctrl-c cut or copy?
[01:37] <tryingsomething> http://hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Wireless.html
[01:37] <Wondersaurus> Looked through it.  Didn't find much helpful.
[01:37] <sunsun> erUSUL, i got E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:38] <tga> does anyone know of a console calendaring app?
[01:38] <erUSUL> sunsun, i can not know run apt-get dist-upgrade until evrething is installed correctly then reboot
[01:38] <erUSUL> everything*
[01:38] <erUSUL> tga, cal
[01:38] <_rednektek_> have a question for someone
[01:38] <ecobuntu> erUSUL: you should run apt-get upgrade first then apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:38] <tga> erUSUL, funny
[01:38] <gnomefreak> its copy angelp
[01:39] <angelp> oh
[01:39] <Sanne> tga: or ncal also
[01:39] <blanky> lightbright is mean
[01:40] <lightbright> Seveas: hello :)
[01:40] <erUSUL> ecobuntu, why?
[01:40] <ecobuntu> cause of dependencies
[01:40] <matsavhalev> woohoo freenx is working !
[01:40] <erUSUL> ecobuntu, can you elaborate? i do not see your point
[01:41] <Stormx2> *sigh* I just met up with someone I last saw 3 years ago. I was on his forums, and Now we're on the ubuntu forums. Small world, eh?
[01:41] <stvn> paupers
[01:41] <lightbright> Stormx2: yeah :)
[01:41] <sunsun> what is the command for reboot?
[01:41] <_rednektek_> can someone answer a question for me???
[01:42] <b_e_n_z> sunsun, reboot
[01:42] <ecobuntu> because of the way packages get installed...apt-get upgrade installs the ones that should be installed first then apt-get dist-upgrade installs the ones that depend on the former
[01:42] <sunsun> b_e_n_z
[01:42] <sunsun> this
[01:42] <sunsun> thanks
[01:42] <erUSUL> ecobuntu, i have dist-upgraded from warty to hoary and from there to breezy without problems
[01:43] <sunsun> erUSUL, thks i didnt do the dist-upgrade properly from the interface
[01:43] <erUSUL> ecobuntu, i have never used upgrade i always use dist-upgrade to mantain my system up to date no problems whatsoever
[01:43] <Greves> can anyone help? i followed the wiki for adding repositories, and am getting an error "Couldn't stat source package list"
[01:43] <_rednektek_> where do I set the root password in "breezy"
[01:43] <_jason> ubotu, tell _rednektek_ about sudo
[01:44] <davfigue> do you really need to set a root password ?
[01:44] <erUSUL> !tell _rednektek_ about sudo
[01:44] <ecobuntu> well to keep it update to date you should just be using upgrade not dist-upgrade...man apt
[01:44] <lightbright> erUSUL: wouldnt it be easier to install fresh breezy?
[01:44] <erUSUL> Greves, what ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list says??
[01:45] <matsavhalev> _rednektek_ if you really need to sudo passwd root . . . but use sudo for most admin tasks instead with your user password thats how it works in ubuntu
[01:45] <lightbright> ecobuntu: yeah true
[01:45] <Urthmover> how do I install nagios on breezy? anyone have documentation?
[01:45] <erUSUL> lightbright, the whole point of apt is to not have to fresh install
[01:45] <matsavhalev> has anyone got XDMCP working in breezy?
[01:45] <Greves> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 1772 2005-11-19 19:33 /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:45] <lightbright> erUSUL: upgrade is not to upgrade from versions
[01:46] <lightbright> erUSUL: if you have a sepereate partion for /home. you can install breezy from CD and still have system as same
[01:46] <newen> hi
[01:46] <erUSUL> ecobuntu, dist-upgrade is a cleverer version of upgrade
[01:46] <Urthmover> does anyone even know what nagios is?
[01:46] <newen> I wonder if someone has noticed that the keyboard switcher doesn't work in gnome
[01:46] <ecobuntu> no
[01:46] <Urthmover> lol
[01:47] <Urthmover> and I' thought I was a n99b
[01:47] <Urthmover> lol
[01:47] <lightbright> erUSUL: does dist-upgrade replace upgrade totally?
[01:47] <erUSUL> lightbright, and in every fresh install i have to reinstall all the apps i have been installing all over again
[01:47] <lightbright> erUSUL: where are all your apps installed to?
[01:47] <Greves> there is nothing in this folder
[01:47] <Greves> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/main/binary-i386/
[01:47] <matsavhalev> erUSUL: i think you can use apt-get to update to breezy
[01:47] <davfigue> please, does anybody know a good tutorial for setting up my wireless lan ?
[01:47] <Greves> but that is where the sources.list file points
[01:48] <lightbright> erUSUL: where are all your apps installed to?  what part of the system and what folder?
[01:49] <nickrud> Greves, there are no backports yet, that's a placeholder for later
[01:49] <erUSUL> lightbright, i trying to say that i have more apps installed than the ones that a tipical fresh install would instal
[01:49] <crimsun> (there actually are backports now)
[01:49] <nickrud> really...
[01:49] <crimsun> yes, the vlc backport was built earlier today.
[01:50] <dummkauf> Im trying to download ubuntu what is the difference between ubuntu-server, breezy, dapper, hoary, etc....
[01:50] <erUSUL> lightbright, so if i do every new version a fresh install i have to install again all the apps i have installed before
[01:50] <aru> anyone know anything about the Disks Manager program?
[01:50] <misfit_toy> crimsun vlc without ugly "old" gtk?
[01:50] <crimsun> yes.
[01:50] <misfit_toy> wahoo
[01:50] <misfit_toy> finally, thanks
[01:50] <lightbright> erUSUL: so im asking, where does ubuntu install all your apps?  not in your /home?
[01:51] <Seveas> lightbright, no
[01:51] <Seveas> in your /
[01:51] <erUSUL> lightbright, no it install files all over the place under /usr
[01:51] <lightbright> Seveas: ah ok!  so I created a seperate partion for /home so if I ever need to fresh install up upgrade!  I guess that was a waste of time then :P
[01:52] <Seveas> lightbright, upgrades don't mean reinstall :)
[01:52] <lightbright> erUSUL: so could I backup my /usr and keep my /home part and then install fresh Ubunt and copy across ./usr?
[01:52] <monkey-> whats happened to java-package? The wiki and docs refer to it, yet I can install it :/
[01:52] <erUSUL> ecobuntu, i will continue to use dist-upgrade you can use upgrade if you feel is more correct...
[01:52] <aru> basicly what I did was use Disks Manager to format one of my drives and set the access path to /home/aru/ogg now when I click enable then go to the ogg folder and try to copy something to it, it tells me I don't have access to it
[01:52] <lightbright> Seveas: you know what I mean?  uld I backup my /usr and keep my /home part and then install fresh Ubunt and copy across /usr to new Ubuntu install and have it running with old config and old apps?
[01:52] <sunsun> crimsun, where do we find the vlc backport
[01:52] <SEJeff> lightbright: You don't want to copy /usr if you reinstall. Different versions are not guaranteed to keep binary compatibility
[01:52] <erUSUL> lightbright, no
[01:52] <Orborde> Should I modprobe -r drm before modprobe fglrx ?
[01:53] <lightbright> SEJeff: ah i see thats too bad
[01:53] <sunsun> erUSUL, what is the difference between dist-upgrade and upgrade
[01:53] <lightbright> erUSUL: so the only solutions is to keep dist-upgrading?
[01:53] <SEJeff> lightbright: keep /home on a different partition and that will keep most app settings.
[01:53] <jasonjdp> how do i find gcc in aptitude to uninstall it? i wanna go to a different version
[01:53] <SEJeff> lightbright: yes
[01:53] <Sanne> dummkauf: you might want to read this and the sub-points, should answer most questions: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/
[01:53] <erUSUL> aru, it is a fat partition?
[01:53] <nickrud> crimsun, where are they hiding
[01:53] <aru> apparently I don't have write permissions to that drive, yet I don't know how to set it so I do
[01:53] <jrsims> YO! How's it going? I need some help installing a GTK theme file. How do I install these?
[01:53] <aru> it's ext3
[01:54] <SEJeff> jrsims: Open up the theme manager and drag the file onto it
[01:54] <angelp> ok, so, apparently i have to upgrade libparted and gparted....how wuold i go about doing that?
[01:54] <erUSUL> lightbright, to mantain everything almost as you have it? yes
[01:54] <lightbright> SEJeff: I have hda3 as /home. but and if my hda1 crashes or gets wiped, I can reinstall breeze and have system run as before?  Yet I would lose all new apps that I had installed?
[01:54] <nickrud> jrsims, open system-preferences-themes, and drag the downloaded theme onto the window
[01:54] <jrsims> Ok!
[01:54] <SEJeff> lightbright: You would lose all additional apps you installed before, yes
[01:54] <SEJeff> lightbright: But the main system doesn't change much
[01:54] <lightbright> SEJeff: hmm ok thanks
[01:54] <Greves> nickrud, so if i uncheck the backports, i won't be missing out on any package repositories?
[01:54] <LeeJunFan> so what exactly does the DVD.iso include? can't be all of universe can it?
[01:54] <lightbright> SEJeff: ok
[01:55] <SEJeff> lightbright: And it's a simple apt-get or point click in synaptic away
[01:55] <spencerk> can someone help me get jack running? "ALSA lib seq_hw.c:455:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory"
[01:55] <lightbright> SEJeff: I guess I could make a folder and rsync the whole drive to it as  backup :)
[01:55] <aru> so I can't change that drive to where I can write to it?
[01:55] <jrsims> SEJeff: ok, it's not your normal GTK theme file. It's a GTK config file.
[01:55] <SEJeff> jrsims: put it as ~/.gtkrc
[01:55] <nickrud> Greves, none of the important ones; backports used to be kinda flaky sometimes, maybe this iteration will be better.
[01:55] <jrsims> SEJeff: what'll that do?
[01:56] <dummkauf> Sanne: ok thanks....new to Ubuntu...just used to other distros
[01:56] <SEJeff> lightbright: Use this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/sbackup/
[01:56] <lightbright> SEJeff: ok ty
[01:57] <aru> !permissions
[01:57] <erUSUL> aru, edit your fstab file and add something like 'defaults,user' in the 4th field of the line afecting the partition
[01:57] <ubotu> aru: I haven't a clue
[01:57] <spencerk> anybody familiar with jack?
[01:57] <crimsun> nickrud: when they're built and OK'd, they'll be in breezy-backports
[01:57] <dummkauf> sane: the ubuntu website doesn't really explain the diffs???
[01:57] <dummkauf> or im just blind
[01:57] <nickrud> crimsun, that's good to hear
[01:57] <crimsun> spencerk: lsmod|grep ^snd_seq
[01:57] <aru> erUSUL, that disk isnt listed in fstab
[01:58] <cucumberjohn> Hi I need some help on setting up my screen resolution
[01:58] <cucumberjohn> I am new to Ubuntu
[01:58] <nickrud> lightbright, sbackup (if it's the one I'm using) is in the universe repository
[01:59] <lightbright> SEJeff: what I am doing is I created 2 partisions on my hdb.  Then I am going to rsync the whole hda1 to hdb1 and hda2 to hdb2, and if something goes wrong, I simply rsynv back and restore :)
[01:59] <erUSUL> aru, ?? well add it to fstab to get it mounted at boot
[01:59] <erUSUL> !tell cucumberjohn about fixres
[01:59] <spencerk> crimsun, no response to that, does that mean i have no drivers installed?
[01:59] <aru> hmm
[01:59] <lightbright> nickrud: Im going to rsync the whole partitions to another hard drive, my hdb :)
[01:59] <cucumberjohn> fixres?
[01:59] <lightbright> nickrud:  if I ever need to, I simply rsync back and restore
[01:59] <crimsun> spencerk: then load it.
[01:59] <Sanne> dummkauf: "Releases" explains Warty, Hoary and Breezy (Breezy is the lastest, you will want that one)
[01:59] <nickrud> I saw, but, what if your ps fries both drives?
[01:59] <erUSUL> cucumberjohn, read what ubotu told you
[01:59] <spencerk> crimsun, how do i do that
[02:00] <crimsun> spencerk: sudo modprobe snd-seq
[02:00] <Belgain> hi there, i've got a slight problem when running a headless ubuntu system: the desktop resolution gets defaulted to 640x480 when connecting in VNC...
[02:00] <lightbright> nickrud: ps?
[02:00] <nickrud> lightbright, power supply
[02:00] <dummkauf> Sanne -- so then whats the diff between Ubuntu-Server and normal ubuntu??
[02:00] <spencerk> thank you
[02:00] <lightbright> nickrud: well if that happens either way you are gone :)
[02:00] <Belgain> i think this is because no monitor is detected at boot, and therefore ubuntu uses failsafe settings
[02:00] <lightbright> nickrud: even sbackup wont help you then
[02:00] <cucumberjohn> I apologize.  I can't find what ubotu wrote
[02:00] <Belgain> how can i get VNC server to give me a 1280x1024 desktop?
[02:00] <nickrud> lightbright, no, sbackup can arrange for writing backups to a dvd/cd overnight. Improves your odds.
[02:01] <spencerk> crimsun, Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/sound/core/seq/snd-seq.ko': No such file or directory
[02:01] <erUSUL> dummkauf, ubuntu-server does not install ubuntu-desktop only the base system no X
[02:01] <spencerk> what does that mean?
[02:01] <aru> what do I want, just defaults under options?
[02:01] <Sanne> dummkauf: on the page "Applications" is a part about the server version, it's, well, for when you want to set up a server instead of a desktop system.
[02:01] <crimsun> spencerk: did you mess with ALSA at all?
[02:01] <ryufreak> !partition
[02:01] <ubotu> No idea, ryufreak
[02:01] <spencerk> not sure
[02:01] <lightbright> nickrud: I dont have a dvd writer :(
[02:01] <dummkauf> erUSUL -- thanks just thats the only diff then??
[02:01] <crimsun> spencerk: ..."not sure"?
[02:02] <ryufreak> !delete partition
[02:02] <ubotu> ryufreak: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:02] <nickrud> lightbright, read about sbackup, it implements a tried and true backup system.
[02:02] <spencerk> ive been trying to install it, so maybe i messed with something i shouldnt have
[02:02] <erUSUL> aru, defaults,<your user> as you are mounting it under your home
[02:02] <lightbright> nickrud: but I have a 3rd hard drive that is able to pull put off the front
[02:02] <erUSUL> dummkauf, yes afaik
[02:02] <dummkauf> Sanne -- yeah I guessed that much....I was more curious about how it was setup differently and what packages are included on the install cd
[02:02] <spencerk> crimsun, ive also been trying oss or souncore
[02:02] <crimsun> oh god.
[02:02] <nickrud> lightbright, so, backup to it and pull it often :)
[02:02] <spencerk> would they be easier?
[02:03] <crimsun> what cpu are you using?
[02:03] <nickrud> think of it as a big tape drive
[02:03] <spencerk> athlon
[02:03] <Sanne> dummkauf: ah, ok :) I believe I read that it comes with the typical web server applications, apache, mysql, php things like that.
[02:03] <crimsun> sudo aptitude install linux-k7
[02:03] <crimsun> then reboot
[02:03] <spencerk> ok
[02:03] <spencerk> thank you,
[02:03] <lightbright> nickrud: i have 3 hard drives!  1 is internal and other 2 that can be pulled out of front of system unit!  So I can rsync by whole hda to hdb, and then place my other hard drive in and then copy hdb to hda!  then pull out and put in original hda :)  and store the other one in my drawrer :)  ahh i like that idea :)
[02:03] <Belgain> so any ideas about setting res for ubuntu when no monitor is connected?
[02:03] <eliphas_> how can I make direct rendering working please?
[02:03] <lightbright> nickrud: :)
[02:04] <nickrud> lightbright, there are nearly as many backup strategies as there are systems; as long as the backup has integrity, the method is by preference
[02:04] <erUSUL> eliphas_, what graphic card?
[02:04] <dummkauf> Sanne -- ok...think I got this figured out.........if there are any developers here, including readme files on the file servers explaining whats where is really nice to have
[02:04] <eliphas_> ati radeon mobility 7500
[02:04] <dummkauf> just my 2 cents anyway
[02:05] <crimsun> dummkauf: huh?
[02:05] <angelp> can someone help me upgrade gparted/parted?
[02:05] <erUSUL> eliphas_, using ati drivers??
[02:05] <eliphas_> yes
[02:05] <Greves> how can i enable the ability to "su" in a terminal?
[02:06] <erUSUL> !tell eliphas_ about ati
[02:06] <lightbright> nickrud: yeah rsync seems very reliable
[02:06] <dummkauf> crimsum -- most distros have readme files along with the ISO and torrent files on the server explaining what the differenes are.....just handy to have around to save time googling the net for answeres
[02:06] <spencerk> crimsun, is this compiling a new kernel? what is this doing, i dont understand this stuff...
[02:06] <beezly> Greves: try using sudo instead
[02:06] <nickrud> Greves, you can get the same functionality with sudo [-i|-s] 
[02:06] <eliphas_> thanks erUSUL
[02:06] <beezly> !tell GregAsche about sudo
[02:06] <erUSUL> eliphas_, no problem
[02:07] <beezly> argh
[02:07] <beezly> !tell Greves  about sudo
[02:07] <zorba64> !sudo
[02:07] <ubotu> [sudo]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:07] <tlhiv> hi folks ... i'm a gentoo user and i've heard alot of hype about Ubuntu ... can someone tell me an advantage that Ubunutu has over Gentoo other than binaries packages as opposed to source compilation?
[02:07] <lightbright> nickrud:  rsync -ravlpogtDH --progress --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/proc / /mnt
[02:07] <Sanne> dummkauf: yes, readmes would be nice.
[02:08] <runedude3> hello
[02:08] <zorba64> tlhiv: try it for yourself
[02:08] <nickrud> tlhiv, what other advantage can outweigh that ;)
[02:08] <beezly> tlhiv: the main advantage i found is that "it just works"
[02:08] <runedude3> can ubuntu read/write to UFS partitions?
[02:08] <aru> is there a way to reload fstab or do I have to reboot?
[02:08] <lightbright> if you want to install multiple files with aptitide is it: simething like: sudo aptitude install kpdf && korganizer && kpf && kpersonalizer
[02:08] <runedude3> aru - yea, do mount -a
[02:08] <lightbright> use the && ?
[02:08] <tlhiv> beezly: meaning what?  gentoo does too once it's installed
[02:08] <crimsun> spencerk: no, it's installing a more suitable kernel for your cpu
[02:08] <erUSUL> aru, sudo mount -a
[02:09] <beezly> tlhiv: mmm, yes - "once it's installed" - and assuming you have selected all the correct options for your hardware and the software set up you want etc
[02:09] <aru> lame
[02:09] <beezly> runedude: yes it will
[02:09] <erUSUL> lightbright, no simple spaces betwen package names
[02:09] <spencerk> and this kernel has alsa?
[02:09] <tlhiv> beezly: ok ... well i'll have to chat more about this later ... i gotta run for now
[02:09] <tlhiv> thanx
[02:09] <crimsun> spencerk: all the kernels have ALSA.
[02:10] <EloraKun> Hey guys. Is it sensible installing 2 different distros sharing a /home mount? (Breezy + Mandriva 2006)
[02:10] <JanC_spurt> tlhiv: meaning: ubuntu works about 3 days earlier than gentoo?  ;-)
[02:10] <spencerk> cool.
[02:10] <lightbright> erUSUL: so: sudo aptitude install kpdf korganizer kpf kpersonalizer  ?
[02:10] <beezly> EloraKun: yeah - that shouldn't be a problem
[02:10] <nollidj> what is the recommended location for putting arguments to modules when they are inserted?  /etc/modules.conf, somewhere in /etd/modules.d/ , or elsewhere?
[02:10] <Sanne> dummkauf: in the ftp directories where the iso files are, there are also files with the extension .list, they list the packages in the isos, might give you an idea.
[02:10] <lightbright> erUSUL: is that what uou mean?
[02:10] <beezly> EloraKun: you /might/ have some problems with some applications - if they do nasty things with different version of their config files for example, but Iit should work ok
[02:11] <dummkauf> Elorakun -- yeah....shouldn't be an issue
[02:11] <EloraKun> I'm afraid of conflicts between programs versions configuration
[02:11] <zorba64> EloraKun: that will work...be an idea to use different sign-in names
[02:11] <nickrud> nollidj, in /etc/modules.d , create your own file
[02:11] <beezly> EloraKun: well, i've done it before and it's never been a problem, but it *could* be in theory
[02:11] <EloraKun> So just use different users and everything should be smooth, righ?
[02:11] <nollidj> nickrud: thanks.  no equivalent to modconf or any other distributions' module-handling tools?
[02:12] <crimsun> modconf is deprecated.
[02:12] <dummkauf> Sanne -- yeah....I was more referring to explaining what breezy is and so on and so forth.......just throwing my 2 cents in on the issue....its not that big of a deal
[02:12] <GregAsche> I'm getting a static type thing whenever I play a .wmv file, the sound is fine but the video is weird... anyone know how to fix this?
[02:12] <zorba64> EloraKun: yep...have done it before with different id's with no probs
[02:12] <lokm> hi there...I built up a server on ubuntu... i need use more IPs per one network interface... so I used ifconfig for set this... it works ok but after reboot it's default again... do u know how to save that? pls...
[02:12] <angelp> can someone help me upgrade gparted/ parted?
[02:12] <EloraKun> Ok. I'll give it a try now with eLive... Just will have to paste a whole lotta  configuration files...
[02:12] <beezly> lokm: try "man interfaces"
[02:12] <nickrud> nollidj, no, it seems modconf is going the way of the dodo, and /etc/modules is depreciated.
[02:12] <EloraKun> Thanks!
[02:12] <lokm> beezly: i will thx
[02:12] <beezly> lokm: the file you need to edit is /etc/network/interfaces
[02:13] <lokm> beezly: okie :)
[02:13] <nollidj> nickrud, thanks... i'm showing my age...
[02:13] <beezly> wooo - today is my birthday :)
[02:14] <matsavhalev> happy birthday
[02:14] <angelp> happy birthday beezly
[02:14] <aaarg> happy bday
[02:14] <beezly> thanks all :)
[02:14] <Sanne> dummkauf: Ah, I see. Well, I found the ubuntu page answered my questions fairly well when I was looking for info...
[02:14] <rixth> Are wildcards allowed in the hosts file?
[02:15] <beezly> rixth: no
[02:15] <rixth> That would make me life a lot easier :( oh well.
[02:15] <matsavhalev> how do i switch between gdm and kdm easily?
[02:15] <aru> so in the file browser, how do I get the little lock off of the directory I mounted my new hdd to?
[02:16] <dell500> what's a good ipod manager?
[02:16] <dell500> besides gtkpod
[02:16] <nickrud> nollidj, and, I think hotplug is going away too ....
[02:16] <Delvien> somehow i managed to execute ssh -X root@localhost without using a terminal ( made a hotbutton and pressed it by accident (forgot to press run in terminal) and i am now running linux as root, anyone know how to go back to my regular user privlegas?
[02:17] <angelp> can someone please help me upgrade gparted/ parted :-/
[02:17] <matsavhalev> Delvien: exit maybe?
[02:17] <nickrud> Delvien, in a terminal? exit?
[02:17] <aru> /dev/hdc1       /home/aru/ogg  ext3    rw,user,exec    0       0 <- shouldnt that work?
[02:17] <ispiked> does ubuntu call `iwevent' when one does ifup or ifdown?
[02:17] <zorba64> angelp: what is the upgrade prob u have?
[02:18] <erUSUL> angelp, sudo apt-get update gparted parted
[02:18] <Delvien> when i do things in the desktop environment it pops up with wierd windows ive never seen before
[02:18] <angelp> thank you erusul
[02:18] <matsavhalev> can anyone help with switching from gdm to kdm or vice versa
[02:18] <Delvien> i have no terminals open... atm
[02:18] <erUSUL> aru, yes it should work change user with the name of your user
[02:18] <angelp> erusul, "E: The update command takes no arguments
[02:18] <angelp> "
[02:19] <Vertigo> anyone offer some user experiences with both ubuntu and kubuntu?
[02:19] <zorba64> matsavhalev: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:19] <erUSUL> angelp, sudo apt-get upgrade gparted parted sorry
[02:19] <matsavhalev> thx zorba64
[02:19] <nickrud> angelp, do apt-cache policy gparted first, see if there is something to upgrade to?
[02:19] <zorba64> matsavhalev: np
[02:19] <aru> so theres still a lock on the ogg directory
[02:19] <matsavhalev> Vertigo: i tried both found that they best for me was to install ubuntu and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop for the best of bith worlds
[02:19] <angelp> nickrud, there is, i've been to the website
[02:20] <erUSUL> aru, have you changed the user??
[02:20] <Vertigo> matsavhalev, ok cool maybe i'll do the same.
[02:20] <aru> just tried that
[02:20] <nickrud> angelp, then, you'll have to compile it, unless it makes it to backports some day.
[02:20] <angelp> ok, erusul, it said 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed...?
[02:20] <angelp> what
[02:20] <erUSUL> angelp, there is no new version aviable
[02:20] <matsavhalev> Vertigo: had some problems with kubuntu last time i tried it, but the same version of ubuntu with kde worked nicely so ive stuck with that. I use kde mostly
[02:20] <erUSUL> angelp, you are up to date
[02:21] <angelp> the website says theres a new one
[02:21] <zorba64> angelp: why do u need to upgrade it?
[02:21] <angelp> zorba64, because its not working
[02:21] <angelp> someone in #gparted told me to upgrade
[02:21] <nickrud> angelp, ubuntu does not update applications, except semi-yearly
[02:21] <erUSUL> aru, change the user then umount the partition an then do mount -a and try again
[02:22] <turix> i need help to play mp3 files
[02:22] <nollidj> nickrud: ???
[02:22] <Vertigo> matsavhalev, i use win xp pro daily and am dual booting w/ ubuntu now. using gnome currently and feel like the look is not as bright. im thinking i might like kde. haven't used kde since way back with mandrake 9.
[02:22] <Sanne> angelp: if the website has a new version, it doesn't mean that it's already in Ubuntu's package repositories yet.
[02:22] <zorba64> angelp: fair enuff...have you tried removing and reinstalling?
[02:22] <nollidj> nickrud: i guess i'll stay tuned as the situation develops
[02:22] <turix> how do i install the mp3coder?
[02:22] <nickrud> nollidj, stable releases, twice a year :)
[02:22] <erUSUL> !tell turix about mp3
[02:22] <angelp> sanne, ok, so then how do i install from the ewbsite?
[02:22] <zorba64> !mp3
[02:22] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, to enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:22] <angelp> zorba64: no not yet; i dont know how to install anything
[02:22] <turix> !tell
[02:22] <dreadnought> what do i do when this happens in totem -This is an audio-only file, and there is no audio output available- and the speakers r in
[02:23] <nickrud> turix, you're trying to encode mp3's from your cd's?
[02:23] <Vertigo> dreadnought, another frontier dsl user eh
[02:23] <dreadnought> yea howd u knmow
[02:23] <turix> no i just cant play them
[02:23] <dreadnought> my logiun
[02:23] <matsavhalev> Vertigo: you can just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop in your ubuntu, I think you will be pleasantly suprised KDE has moved on quickly the last few years. I find gnome less intuitive
[02:23] <aru> I still dont have permission to use my new hdd, rock
[02:23] <ecobuntu> Vertigo: are you canadian?
[02:24] <Sanne> angelp: you would need to compile it from source then, but better others help you with that, because I'm not on Ubuntu yet.
[02:24] <Vertigo> ecobuntu, um no
[02:24] <turix> nickrud, just wonder what codec i must install
[02:24] <Vertigo> matsavhalev, yeah im definately going to give it a look
[02:24] <angelp> sanne: ok. i have been using windows for 10 years. i don't even know what "compile it from source" means.
[02:24] <nickrud> turix, sudo apt-get install beep-media-player and gstreamer0.8-mad ; beep-media-player is nice, and the gstreamer is for rhythmbox
[02:24] <ecobuntu> you just said 'eh'
[02:24] <aru> man, this is stupid
[02:24] <dreadnought> what do i do when this happens in totem -This is an audio-only file, and there is no audio output available- and the speakers r in
[02:24] <Vertigo> dreadnought, it tells you when you first sign on
[02:24] <dreadnought> yea i no
[02:24] <Vertigo> ex.)  dreadnought (n=andrew@170-100-238-52.dsl1.glv.ny.frontiernet.net) has joined #ubuntu
[02:25] <dreadnought> ok so what do i do
[02:25] <turix> "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:25] <turix> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:25] <turix> "
[02:25] <Sanne> angelp: then I would recommend to not start with this, if you can avoid it.
[02:25] <sunsun> hi... i have dist-upgrade to breezt
[02:25] <sunsun> breezy
[02:25] <sunsun> and... now i can't get out of the shell
[02:25] <turix> nickrud, when will it be available?
[02:25] <nickrud> turix, first, don't paste :) and second, you have synaptic open
[02:25] <angelp> sanne: so....i'm screwed?
[02:25] <sunsun> its definitely upgraded... to breezy
[02:25] <turix> ok w8
[02:26] <Sanne> angelp: why do you need to upgrade the application?
[02:26] <angelp> sanne: because it is not working and this guy on #gparted told me to upgrade and see if it worked
[02:26] <nickrud> turix, you should step through wiki.ubuntu.com ; it will help you enable playing all the media that ubuntu can.
[02:26] <Brunellus> sunsun:  sudo apt-get -f install
[02:26] <nickrud> *wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  turix
[02:26] <ecobuntu> angelp: install ntfsprogs
[02:27] <Sanne> angelp: maybe somebody here who's on Ubuntu could help with your problem your version of the program has now.
[02:27] <angelp> ecobuntu: did it; still not wroking...
[02:27] <sunsun> Brunellus, will this bring me to the GUI
[02:27] <ecobuntu> angelp: run ntfsresize
[02:27] <mahangu> how can I check the md5 of a file?
[02:27] <ecobuntu> at terminal
[02:27] <sunsun> Brunellus, i want to get out of the shell and back to my desktop environemnet
[02:27] <sunsun> hello
[02:27] <nickrud> mahangu, md5sum <file>
[02:27] <zorba64> angelp: what is gparted not letting you do?
[02:27] <mahangu> sunsun, alt+f7
[02:27] <Brunellus> sunsun:  you can't get to the gui because the gui is broken.  apt-get -f install will try to fix any packages that didn't upgrade cleanly in the initial upgrade
[02:27] <mahangu> nickrud, thanks, had forgotten the syntax :)
[02:28] <angelp> zorba64, resize a partition
[02:28] <Brunellus> sunsun: I had the same problem
[02:28] <angelp> ecobuntu, ok, now what
[02:28] <dreadnought> is there nothing i can do about thiis
[02:28] <ecobuntu> angelp: i don't know...all i know is it's a program to resize ntfs partitions...isn't it a gui?
[02:28] <dreadnought> what do i do when this happens in totem -This is an audio-only file, and there is no audio output available- and the speakers r in
[02:29] <angelp> ecobuntu no....it has this list of like commands and stuff...
[02:29] <nickrud> dreadnought, what kind of file are you trying to play?
[02:29] <ecobuntu> oh
[02:29] <ecobuntu> hold on
[02:29] <turix> "Couldn't find beep-media.player"
[02:29] <zorba64> angelp: what sort of partition? /dev/hda?
[02:29] <purplefeltangel> zorba64...uhhh... i dont know.
[02:29] <purplefeltangel>     -i, --info             Estimate the smallest shrunken size supported
[02:29] <purplefeltangel>     -s, --size SIZE        Resize volume to SIZE[k|M|G]  bytes
[02:29] <purplefeltangel>     -n, --no-action        Do not write to disk
[02:29] <purplefeltangel>     -f, --force            Force to progress (DANGEROUS)
[02:29] <purplefeltangel>     -P, --no-progress-bar  Don't show progress bar
[02:29] <purplefeltangel>     -v, --verbose          More output
[02:29] <purplefeltangel>     -V, --version          Display version information
[02:29] <purplefeltangel>     -h, --help             Display this help
[02:29] <purplefeltangel> oops :/
[02:29] <turix> nickrud, no 'sudocommand' seems to work properly
[02:29] <nickrud> turix, beep-media-player (and do you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled)
[02:29] <zorba64> purplefeltangel: dont paste...u will get kicked
[02:30] <mahangu> purplefeltangel, pastebin
[02:30] <purplefeltangel> zorba64 iw as trying to do it into a private message
[02:30] <turix> what is that?
[02:30] <dreadnought> nickrud mp3
[02:30] <mahangu> !pastebin
[02:30] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:30] <zorba64> !pastebin
[02:30] <sunsun> Brunellus, ok, i have done this, and now i reboot
[02:30] <mahangu> nickrud, how can I compare the md5sums of two files?
[02:30] <nickrud> dreadnought, go to wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats , and do the first step there
[02:30] <egon_spengler> Quick Q. What is the channel for the dapperdrake flight 1
[02:30] <sunsun> Brunellus, booting the kernel, hope it works
[02:30] <ecobuntu> what happens if you type partman at the command?
[02:31] <nickrud> mahangu, I just eyeball the beginning and ends of the md5sums :)
[02:31] <sunsun> Brunellus, so if it doesn't work , waht do i do next
[02:31] <zorba64> purplefeltangel: have you tried running, sudo gparted from a terminal?
[02:31] <purplefeltangel> zorba64, uh, i think so
[02:31] <sunsun> i still get the shell, any suggestionS?
[02:31] <zorba64> purplefeltangel: go try it now
[02:31] <mahangu> nickrud, yeah figured id do that too :)
[02:32] <nickrud> mahangu, odds seem good, don't they ;)
[02:32] <purplefeltangel> zorba64 it just opened gparted
[02:32] <Greves> how do i add multiverse repository? the wiki doesn't work when i follow it
[02:32] <zorba64> purplefeltangel: good, how many partitions do you have?
[02:32] <purplefeltangel> zorba64 2
[02:32] <dreadnought> nickrud it worked before maybe my speakers broke
[02:33] <mahangu> nickrud, i guess I can use a combination of grep too, if im _really_ anal about it
[02:33] <nickrud> Greves, the simple way, is to sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list , and add multiverse to each line that has universe in it.
[02:33] <sunsun> Brunellus, i have apt-get -f installe
[02:33] <zorba64> purplefeltangel: which one do you want to resize? and make sure you unmount it
[02:33] <sunsun> but... i get an error
[02:34] <sunsun> Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code()
[02:34] <nickrud> mahangu, for me, figuring that out would take more work than eyeballing 50 md5sums, lol
[02:34] <sunsun> someone tell me howi fix the gui??
[02:34] <Greves> nickrud, thanks
[02:35] <nickrud> Greves, np
[02:35] <mahangu> sunsun, it sounds like your package manager is borked
[02:35] <sunsun> mahangu, how do i fix it
[02:35] <mahangu> did you make any changes recently, or did something else happen?
[02:36] <sunsun> don't know - i dist-upgraded from >>
[02:36] <sunsun> waorthy
[02:36] <sunsun> mohangu, plz tell
[02:36] <mahangu> hmmm
[02:36] <mahangu> sunsun, does apt-get update work?
[02:36] <mahangu> without breaking?
[02:36] <zorba64> sunsun: bit of a stretch that upgrade
[02:37] <sunsun> well i tried it... it did not break
[02:37] <sunsun> it did the whole thing
[02:37] <sunsun> tried it twice already
[02:37] <zorba64> sunsun: have you looked at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade?highlight=%28breezy%29
[02:37] <Jestre> Why is it that everytime I try to configure my wireless network during the install, I give it my ESSID, etc and it still tries to connect to another in the neighborhood?
[02:37] <zorba64> sunsun: and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes?highlight=%28breezy%29
[02:38] <jasonjdp> omg omg, just got my xvid movies playing in gxine!  thnx all you guys rock!
[02:38] <zorba64> purplefeltangel: how did you go with it??
[02:38] <Lenn> bye everybody
[02:38] <nalioth> sunsun: please join #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:39] <PublicAnnoyance> duz any1 no how 2 lock the screen in xfce?
[02:39] <dreadnought> so what can i do wtih my speaker issue
[02:39] <Delvien> When i log on to ubuntu i get a pop up for OpenSSH which askes me for my root password, anyone know how to change my login from dm@localhost to dm@dmlinux ( my old one?)
[02:39] <PublicAnnoyance> the lock screen button does not work
[02:40] <Delvien> nalioth any idea?
[02:40] <egon_spengler> PublicAnnoyance, Just tried the lock, and worked a treat here
[02:40] <nalioth> Delvien: i have 0 idea
[02:40] <sunsun> nalioth, ok thks for the invite
[02:41] <aru> if anyone cares to help me install a hdd and mount it to where I can use it let me know
[02:41] <PublicAnnoyance> does anyone know of any other ways to lock it then, or why mine doesn't work?
[02:41] <nickrud> dreadnought, play the mp3 in another app, and plug the speakers into another source: basic troubleshooting techniques
[02:41] <mahangu> suneco, get in there - #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:42] <mahangu> nalioth will fix you right up
[02:42] <Urthm0ver> how do I configure breezy to work with a remote Xserver?  what do I need to change on the host(this ubuntu system)?
[02:43] <dreadnought> nickrud music player says   cannot open resource and totem says it can find speakers!
[02:43] <axisys> how do make sure mplayer does not kick in for ram files while browsing through firefox
[02:43] <aru> I have the hard disk installed in the computer, apparently it is showing up as /dev/hdc1, I thought I formatted it with Disks Manager to ext3 but now it won't mount when user permissions plus it mounts 10gb smaller than it is
[02:43] <mahangu> dreadnought, speakers are irrelevant, the sound card is what your computer talks to
[02:44] <Urthm0ver> does anyone know how to server Zwindows to a remote system?
[02:44] <dreadnought> mahangu thayre integrated
[02:44] <Urthm0ver> Xwindows
[02:44] <axisys> never had good experience with totem
[02:44] <nickrud> dreadnought, what does dpkg -l gstreamer0.8-mad tell you? (the first two characters on the line, please)
[02:44] <Urthm0ver> vnc is too slow
[02:44] <mahangu> nickrud, shouldn't he try xmms for mp3s?
[02:44] <dreadnought> ill paste in us channel
[02:44] <dreadnought> ur
[02:44] <Urthm0ver> I guess none of you even really knows enough to help ?
[02:44] <war-totem> axisys: im the same way
[02:44] <mahangu> nickrud, and perhaps the system is squating on the sound daeman - a killall esd?
[02:45] <mahangu> Urthm0ver, be patient, an answer will come your way
[02:45] <axisys> war-totem: what is a good alternative?
[02:45] <GTroy> Urthm0ver: always does to me
[02:45] <war-totem> axisys: vlc plays everything ive needed it too
[02:45] <rabeldable> Urthm0ver: vnc is fast for me
[02:46] <war-totem> axisys: and theirs a native linux client
[02:46] <aru> I've been trying to fuckin fdisk the drive, and I've tried gparted, it doesnt show up in gparted and fdisk says unable to open
[02:46] <axisys> war-totem: which one is that?
[02:46] <war-totem> axisys: sudo apt-get install vlc
[02:46] <Urthm0ver> over vpn I think compressed ssh would give me better performance
[02:46] <lurah> nite -->
[02:46] <Vertigo> l*ter
[02:46] <war-totem> axisys: its a player that plays all movies with all codecs (as far as ive learned)
[02:47] <Urthm0ver> there is no such thing as sudo apt-get install XDM
[02:47] <aru> all I want is for the bastard to mount to my home directory so I can copy stuff to it
[02:47] <Urthm0ver> or something similar
[02:47] <rabeldable> Urthm0ver: You might have a packet fragmentation problem check you MTU size
[02:47] <axisys> war-totem: which player is that.. u talking about vlc?
[02:47] <war-totem> axisys: video lan its a multimedia player
[02:47] <rabeldable> anyone know how to add factoids to ubotu?
[02:47] <war-totem> axisys: www.videolan.org
[02:47] <war-totem> axisys: i think
[02:48] <Urthm0ver> rabeldable: and where do
[02:48] <Urthm0ver> I check that?
[02:48] <occy> !wmv
[02:48] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:48] <axisys> war-totem: that's vlc
[02:48] <rabeldable> Urthm0ver: ifconfig -a and look for MTU size
[02:48] <axisys> war-totem: gotcha
[02:48] <war-totem> axisys: =)
[02:48] <occy> !FreeFormats
[02:48] <ubotu> freeformats is, like, totally, There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[02:48] <pztak> ok so gparted failed :( it couldn't resize the external vfat hdd
[02:48] <pztak> any ideas why?
[02:49] <pztak> it was unmounted
[02:49] <Urthm0ver> cause I'm almost positive running the Xserver locally will be guaranteed better performanbce..think about it...less size in the packets...and it's not like a screen capture
[02:49] <rabeldable> Urthm0ver: if its 1500 try to lower it in incriments of 20 to find the "sweet spot"
[02:49] <aru> so basicly I'm installing a new fuckin hard drive and have no idea where to start, I think... is there a guide for that?
[02:49] <ecobuntu> purplefeltangel: did you get it to work?  i know how to do this ntfsresize...it's very easy
[02:49] <Greves> can anyone help me with sound? i picked the right card on the mixer, but no dice
[02:49] <GTroy> aru: just remember to set the jumper to slave
[02:49] <aru> that part is already done
[02:49] <Madpilot> aru: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive
[02:49] <Urthm0ver> so back to the original question does anyone in here know what configs I need to change or what services to start in order to connect to the Xserver of the ubuntu installation from a remote system?
[02:50] <aru> Madpilot, sweet, thanks
[02:50] <mahangu> Greves, what is wrong, _where_ doesnt sound play?
[02:50] <mahangu> system sounds play?
[02:50] <war-totem> anyone know of an efficient way to wipe a computer clean?
[02:50] <Greves> mahangu, no sounds play
[02:50] <Urthm0ver> I'll try to do that while I hope that others actually know what I'm talking about
[02:50] <joeyb> Every hour, at 17 minutes and one second past the hour, there is a root login and root logout message in my auth.log, any idea?
[02:50] <foampeace> Greves, i dont know try alsamixer -c 1
[02:50] <mahangu> Greves, nothing at all? hmmm
[02:51] <foampeace> Greves, what soundcard?
[02:51] <rabeldable> Urthm0ver: have you looked at ssh -X for X11 forwarding, and when you get there type startx.
[02:51] <rabeldable> you need a Xclient installed on the system your going from.
[02:51] <foampeace> Greves...sudo apt-get install alsamixer
[02:51] <egon_spengler> war-totem, Try dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda
[02:51] <foampeace> Greves. maybe hit m to unmute channels
[02:51] <Greves> foampeace, its a sblive! 24 bit
[02:51] <axisys> how do i replace mplayer plugin with VLC on firefox?
[02:52] <war-totem> egon_spengler: ok, and that will wipe everything clean? just from that command?
[02:52] <egon_spengler> war-totem, yup, takes input from random and outputs to the first drive
[02:52] <egon_spengler> /dev/hdb would be second drive
[02:52] <egon_spengler> etc
[02:53] <war-totem> egon_spengler: ok thaknks
[02:53] <pztak> ok so gparted failed :( it couldn't resize the external vfat hdd... it was unmounted.. any ideas?
[02:53] <Urthm0ver> rabeldable:  I'm a linux noob.....specifically what config file and where in it do I need to make a switch...then what can I do to test that the ssh service is running and listening properly to forward X11
[02:53] <war-totem> egon_spengler: but why would i be outputting anything? sorry this is new territory for me
[02:53] <Urthm0ver> is all this configured by default?
[02:53] <Greves> mahangu, i have an sblive 24-bit card, and onboard nforce2. both were recognized, but don't work
[02:54] <egon_spengler> war-totem, You are using the dd utility to overwrite whatever WAS on the drive
[02:54] <foampeace> Greves, is the ca0106 modules listed when you type lsmod?
[02:54] <war-totem> egon_spengler: ok and what is dd?
[02:54] <war-totem> egon_spengler:  delete drive?
[02:55] <Urthm0ver> man I'm dossappointed
[02:55] <Urthm0ver> diss
[02:55] <Greves> foampeace, snd_ca0106 is
[02:55] <JanC_spurt> Greves: that's a desktop?
[02:55] <mahangu> Greves, try killall esd and tell me what bash tells you?
[02:55] <mojo> http://orion.thos.me.uk/~joneslee85/Avatar/Cuong.png
[02:55] <Urthm0ver> maybe I'll ask in the debian room....seems ubuntu help coincides with unbuntu level of difficulty
[02:55] <foampeace> Greves, then do like i said...you might have to specify the card for you mixer. try alsamixer -c 0 or -c 1
[02:55] <Greves> mahangu, it didn't tell me anything
[02:55] <Toba> will upgrading to breezy wreck any of my settings?
[02:55] <aru> Madpilot, the drive is still locked and I can't write to it
[02:55] <egon_spengler> war-totem, No, dd is a file/disk util
[02:56] <foampeace> Greves, unmute the channels of the cards
[02:56] <war-totem> egon_spengler: gotcha, thakns
[02:56] <mahangu> Greves, try playing sound now
[02:56] <egon_spengler> war-totem, As an example dd if=/dev/hdc (cdrom) of=cdrom.iso
[02:56] <Greves> foampeace, they are unmuted dude
[02:56] <Greves> mahangu, nope
[02:56] <egon_spengler> war-totem, Copies the cdrom to an iso image
[02:56] <foampeace> Greves: modules loaded?
[02:57] <Greves> foampeace, yes...
[02:57] <war-totem> egon_spengler: i think im getting it
[02:57] <jrattner1> Has anyone ever synced a Windows Mobile device (PDA smartphone) with linux ?
[02:57] <foampeace> Greves, no system sound?
[02:57] <mahangu> Greves, go with foampeace
[02:57] <Greves> foampeace, i have system beeps, thats it
[02:58] <foampeace> Greves, hard to say....did you try both cards alone?
[02:58] <joeyb> I figured out my previous question, it was a cron job thanks guys.
[02:58] <Greves> foampeace, i didn' try the nforce onboard sound, but i don't use that
[02:58] <Delvien> anyone know a way to revert an old setting on menu editor? i deleted crossover office area accidently then saved it stupid me
[02:58] <aru> so after a drive is formatted and partitions created what is the next step to get it mounted to where I can copy stuff to it
[02:59] <JanC_spurt> Greves: can you disable the onboard sound card in the BIOS?
[02:59] <foampeace> Greves, look here http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=Sound+Blaster+Live+7.1.&chip=SB0410%2C+P17&module=ca0106
[02:59] <Aven> anyone know a linux program like Graveman, but better?
[02:59] <pppoe_dude> hi, when i create a gpg key, how can I sign it? (it still says signature "UNKNOWN" in the status... and if i try importing it to another copmuter, it wouldnt trust the key
[02:59] <egon_spengler> aru, Choose to create a directory of some sort as a mount point, then issue the mount command as root
[02:59] <mahangu> aru, mount /dev/hdaX /mnt/whatever
[02:59] <egon_spengler> aru, E.g. mkdir /mnt/drive_d then sudo mount /dev/hdb /mnt/drive_d
[02:59] <aru> egon_spengler, I did that, but once the drive is mounted, the users cannot access the drive
[03:00] <foampeace> Greves, yes you may have to disable the nforce in the bios first, but it may not be neccessary. However i dont think my sblive is working with the nforce on which im using also
[03:00] <JanC_spurt> Greves: or if that's not possible, with a jumper on the motherboard?
[03:00] <foampeace> Greves: i think you have to pick one or the other...or it might take more effort
[03:00] <pppoe_dude> aru, easy way is to create a directory inside it and do chmod 777 [directory name] 
[03:00] <pppoe_dude> (as root
[03:00] <Aven> What's a good program like Graveman but better
[03:00] <aru> ok
[03:00] <Aven> ?
[03:00] <Greves> JanC_spurt, i can't imagine i need to disable the onboard for the sblive card to work
[03:00] <pppoe_dude> aru, you can also chmod 777 the original directory
[03:01] <Aven> HELP
[03:01] <foampeace> Greves, let me see if my sblive works and we'll see, you would require more configuration somewhere if not
[03:01] <war-totem> Aven: dont yell.  why dont you tell us what graveman is
[03:01] <Kyral> graveman is a CD burning app
[03:01] <Aven> yeah
[03:02] <Kyral> Its no k3b
[03:02] <aru> hah, that was so easy
[03:02] <JanC_spurt> Greves: when there are 2 cards enabled, ubuntu might not know which one to use...
[03:02] <pppoe_dude> any tips on making the signature valid on my gpg key
[03:02] <pppoe_dude> ?
[03:02] <angelp> are the people who were helping me before in here
[03:02] <aru> thanks for the help
[03:03] <liable> doesn't work
[03:03] <Greves> JanC_spurt, can't i just turn off the nforce modules then?
[03:03] <foampeace> Greves, sblive works
[03:03] <foampeace> Greves, what program you looking at for sound anyway?
[03:03] <Greves> any
[03:03] <Greves> mplayer, rhythmbox, xmms
[03:04] <JanC_spurt> Greves: maybe yes, but it's easier when your BIOS supports it
[03:04] <occy> Intel Corp. Mobile Graphics Controller -- Anyone know about 3D stuff with Ubuntu and this chipset?
[03:04] <JanC_spurt> (to disable it)
[03:04] <foampeace> Greves, onboard is card 0.sblive should be card:1
[03:04] <dell500> how long do you think it will take for almost 40gb of mp3s to be transfer over to my ipod?
[03:04] <foampeace> Greves mess around in xmms to see if you can get audio through oss first
[03:05] <foampeace> under output plugin
[03:06] <foampeace> greves: choose oss, or alsa or esd, whatevre
[03:06] <mustard5> Greves, try using alsamixer in terminal
[03:06] <Greves> ok foampeace i can get audo in xmms through ALSA
[03:06] <mustard5> Greves, you can do something like alsamixer -c 0  or alsamixer -c 1 to change devices
[03:07] <Greves> mustard5, will "alsamixer -c 1" set the default card to 1?
[03:07] <mustard5> Greves, it will give you volume controls for that device in terminal
[03:07] <Greves> mustard5, i need to set the default card
[03:07] <mustard5> Greves, you on gnome?
[03:07] <Greves> yes
[03:07] <foampeace> Greves -c 0 is card 1
[03:08] <mustard5> Greves, so when you double click on the volume control you get a menu and you look in the File menu and change devices
[03:08] <foampeace> Greves, select the card in software
[03:08] <foampeace> Greves, select card in xmms or bmp or mplayer config etc.
[03:08] <defendguin> i need the imagemagick  dev files so that i can build something that requires it but i dont see the needed package in apt
[03:08] <mustard5> Greves, or as foampeaces says too :)
[03:09] <aru> !restricted
[03:09] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:09] <Greves> foampeace, i don't have any options in Rhythmbox
[03:09] <foampeace> greves hw0,0 is onboard hw1,0 is sound card
[03:10] <Greves> foampeace, right
[03:10] <Greves> foampeace, can i change ubuntu default from esd to alsa?
[03:10] <mustard5> Greves, I would..
[03:10] <mustard5> Greves, I have both on alsa
[03:10] <foampeace> Greves, if it isnt working
[03:11] <mustard5> Greves, mind you I also have sound server disabled too
[03:11] <mojo> why Dapper is so crap? I couldn't run some programs, >,<
[03:11] <mustard5> mojo, Dapper is in development
[03:11] <rob1> any one know what the default email client is on a fresh ubuntu install? evolution?
[03:11] <foampeace> Greves you can just select oss as well
[03:11] <Greves> ok i change the default sound card now it works
[03:11] <Greves> it sounds like shit though
[03:11] <JanC_spurt> foampeace: if no other process uses/locks alsa, then esd just uses alsa...
[03:11] <mustard5> mojo, its the the stable release of ubuntu
[03:12] <Greves> xmms sounds like shit too
[03:12] <mojo> musard5: i know ,it's stable and it deosn't run programs = crap
[03:12] <Vocious> Need help with sound when i play DVD and why i doesnt play smoothly, pm please :)
[03:12] <JanC_spurt> mojo: dapper = unstable
[03:12] <mojo> ??
[03:12] <mojo> so confusing!
[03:12] <angelp> what is dapper?
[03:12] <sas171> hi, every time I'm starting ubuntu new I have to configure pppoe. If I dont Im getting the "Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded." message but the computer is not connected. What should I do to connect at boot time?
[03:13] <Toba> have the weird sound issues with hoary been fixed in breezy?
[03:13] <JanC_spurt> mojo, "Dapper Drake" = 6.04 will be released April 2006
[03:13] <Greves> it sounds like there is a buffering issue or soemthing i dont know what
[03:13] <Greves> it just sounds really bad
[03:13] <JanC_spurt> Greves: with asa or with ESD ?
[03:13] <Greves> alsa
[03:13] <Toba> I don't like esd
[03:13] <JanC_spurt> s/asa/alsa/
[03:13] <Toba> alsa is better imo
[03:14] <Greves> i think alsa
[03:14] <JanC_spurt> Toba: depends
[03:14] <Toba> JanC_spurt: which of my statements are you referring to?
[03:14] <`23meg>  i'm having a severe 2d problem with x86 driver 7667 + gnome : desktop icons get repainted very slow and 2d performance suffers a lot. renderaccel is on. i'll appreciate any help on this
[03:15] <`23meg> it didn't happen with my last installation
[03:15] <JanC_spurt> Toba: with alsa many applications can't share the sound device
[03:15] <Toba> well
[03:15] <Toba> esd had that issue too
[03:15] <Toba> in 5.04
[03:15] <Toba> but I found a hack to send all esd data to alsa
[03:15] <Toba> the problems persist though :(
[03:16] <Greves> how do i change ubuntu default from esd to alsa? what config file is that in?
[03:16] <SPCcrow> I have a small question, how come the new kernel version is 2.6.12 but i can only get kernel source from apt-get for 2.6.11???
[03:16] <JanC_spurt> ESD (almost?) always sends its data to alsa, but it mixes audio from several applications first
[03:16] <nickrud> Greves, you do that with system->preferences->multimedia system selector
[03:16] <tga> Greves, system admin - sound - don't start server at startup
[03:16] <SPCcrow> and does that make a difference?
[03:17] <tga> yeah, nickrud sounds better advised
[03:18] <nickrud> Greves: but, if you get alsa working right (with dmix) then do what tga says :)
[03:19] <ecobuntu> angelp: did you get it to work?
[03:19] <angelp> ecobuntu, no. :(
[03:19] <ecobuntu> angelp: i think i know how to do it with ntfsresize
[03:19] <angelp> ecobuntu ok :)
[03:20] <ecobuntu> pm me
[03:22] <sas171> hi, every time I'm starting ubuntu new I have to configure pppoe. If I dont Im getting the "Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded." message but the computer is not connected. What should I do to connect at boot time?
[03:23] <EriCKY> WASSUP UBUNTERS!
[03:24] <EriCKY> uh sorry
[03:24] <Greves> in the multimedia systems selector, when i press "Test", should i hear a constant beep sound?
[03:24] <meh> anyone know which wireless USB adapters ubuntu supports?
[03:24] <Amante_y_Poeta> some girl to talk from my hearth to her soul?
[03:24] <mustard5> ubotu: tell meh about wireless
[03:24] <mustard5> meh check the PM from ubotu
[03:25] <Wondersaurus> !wireless
[03:25] <ubotu> methinks wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:26] <sas171> is there some software for ADSL connection?
[03:26] <Greves> should it be a constant beep? can somone check please?
[03:26] <mustard5> Greves, yes
[03:27] <mustard5> Greves, its a continous high pitched noise
[03:27] <Greves> ok something is wrong with mine then
[03:27] <Greves> mine goes "beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-tsk-beeeeeeeeeeeeeee-tsk-beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeE"
[03:27] <Greves> there's little static-y breaks
[03:27] <mustard5> Greves, the default source on mine makes no noise
[03:28] <Greves> any idea how to fix the static on mine?
[03:29] <mustard5> Greves, not any set procedure...I just fiddle around with sound problems
[03:29] <mustard5> Greves, you might have other sound processes running
[03:30] <mustard5> Greves, have you disabled the sound server?
[03:30] <mustard5> Greves, and killed an esd processes?
[03:30] <Greves> mustard5, yes
[03:30] <mustard5> Greves, do a ps -e | grep esd
[03:30] <mustard5> Greves, that will show esd if it is running
[03:31] <mustard5> Greves, I get nothing but grief with esd, so I stick with alsa
[03:31] <Greves> mustard5, esd is not running
[03:31] <runedude_> hey all.. got a q. i have a dhcp server working and 2 computers are networked (ubuntu having internet connection and a dhcp server) but my windows computer cant access the internet through the ubuntu computer, whats going on
[03:31] <runedude_> ?
[03:32] <tlhiv> hi folks
[03:32] <mustard5> Greves, I'm out of ideas...what device you using atm?
[03:32] <tlhiv> back again
[03:32] <mustard5> Greves, onboard or sound card?
[03:32] <tlhiv> here to chat a little about ubuntu
[03:32] <Greves> soundcard
[03:32] <tlhiv> trying to get to know it a little ... have a friend that likes it ... I'm a Gentoo user and love it ... just wondering the advantages over Gentoo
[03:32] <runedude_> anyone know?
[03:33] <dpt> how do we know what my ip address is???
[03:33] <mustard5> Greves, what type of soundcard?
[03:33] <Greves> sblive 24-bit
[03:33] <mustard5> Greves, hmm..I'll check the forums ..I think that is a card with problems
[03:34] <nicolas_> pelaez
[03:34] <optish> how can i remove xubuntu-desktop and all the other programs it installed?
[03:34] <mustard5> Greves, here is one thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307&highlight=sblive+24bit
[03:34] <aspro> runedude_: if you have a modem/router than you likely do not need to run a dhcp server as your modem would be doing that
[03:35] <dpt> nicolas
[03:35] <mustard5> Greves, search the forum for posts on your card using keywords like 'sblive' and '24bit'
[03:35] <Xenguy> dpt: ifconfig
[03:35] <dpt> thanks
[03:35] <runedude_> aspro:  i do have a router, but i want to make ubuntu my router
[03:35] <runedude_> as i have a LAN upstairs in my room >.<
[03:35] <mustard5> Greves, unfortunately you have one of the only soundblaster cards that doesnt work to well with linux
[03:36] <aspro> runedude_: ah well I use my router, so I am not familiar with setting up a dhcp server :)
[03:36] <Wondersaurus> I'm kinda having trouble getting Ubuntu to connect to my router.
[03:36] <runedude_> ah ok
[03:36] <Wondersaurus> Wirelessly, that is.
[03:36] <runedude_> well my dhcp server works fine, but... my windows computer isnt able to connect to the internet
[03:36] <Fr0Gs> i have removed files by going rm file.avi how do i remove the trash can threw ssh in root
[03:38] <mustard5> Fr0Gs, usually there is a ~/.trash file
[03:38] <DShepherd> hey
[03:38] <runedude_> rb
[03:38] <mustard5> Fr0Gs, capital T sorry
[03:39] <mustard5> Fr0Gs, I just checked mine
[03:39] <Fr0Gs> whats the command to remove everything in there
[03:39] <runedude_> ok
[03:40] <mustard5> Fr0Gs, not sure..I wouldnt like to recommend an rm command and be wrong :)
[03:40] <runedude_> now i am on ssh via my windows machine, to the ubuntu machine, but i still cant access the internet
[03:40] <ice9> does anyone know how to make a vcd cue file ?
[03:40] <ice9> pls pm me
[03:40] <ice9> in widows its easy
[03:40] <mahangu> how do I decrypt a key someone send me using gnupg?
[03:40] <Xenguy> Fr0Gs: not sure what you want to do
[03:40] <mustard5> Fr0Gs, -r is recursive
[03:41] <mustard5> Xenguy, he wants to delete his ~/.Trash directory via ssh
[03:41] <RockyBurt> hm, is dapper drake stable enough to try out yet?
[03:41] <Xenguy> mahangu: decrypt a message requires having sender's public key
[03:42] <mahangu> Xenguy, im trying to sign up for biglumber
[03:42] <Xenguy> Fr0Gs: if what mustard5 says is true, then 'rm -rf ~/.Trash will delete the directory, and everything in it (use with CAUTION)
[03:42] <Xenguy> mahangu: sorry, no single quote
[03:43] <ice9> can anyone help ?
[03:43] <ice9> or no of a channel that can
[03:43] <ice9> know of a channel that can
[03:43] <DShepherd> Fr0Gs:  I dont think you want to delete the trash directory too
[03:43] <Xenguy> ice9: I have never heard of a "vcd cue file"
[03:44] <DShepherd> Fr0Gs: 'rm -rf ~/.Trash <-- will delete the Trash directory too
[03:44] <ice9> its a image file
[03:44] <ice9> cue / bin
[03:44] <mustard5> DShepherd, I think it just gets replaced when you put trash in again..if not you could always make another one :)
[03:44] <DShepherd> Fr0Gs: cd ./Trash..... Then rm -fr *
[03:44] <DShepherd> Fr0Gs: cd ~/.Trash..... Then rm -fr * <-- thats better
[03:45] <kassah_> how do I search for packages/install/etc... ? (i.e. for like mysql, apache, php?)
[03:45] <Xenguy> Fr0Gs: er, cd ~/.Trash, then what DShepherd said
[03:45] <Fr0Gs> i just typed rm file.avi
[03:45] <Fr0Gs> and it's not in the trash where the fuk is it
[03:45] <tlhiv> hi guys ... i've recently been hearing alot of hype about Ubuntu and being a Gentoo fan, I'd like to know what makes Ubuntu so special that it might make me switch distros
[03:45] <Xenguy> kassah_: apt-cache search keyword...
[03:45] <Xenguy> kassah_: does a full-text search of package descriptions
[03:45] <mustard5> Fr0Gs, no swearing in main channel plz
[03:45] <DShepherd> Fr0Gs: We dont know
[03:46] <Fr0Gs> were does it go
[03:46] <Fr0Gs> ffs
[03:46] <Fr0Gs> i have about 10gb somewhere
[03:46] <mustard5> Fr0Gs, if you rm it its gone
[03:46] <mustard5> Fr0Gs, never to return
[03:46] <Fr0Gs> ammm
[03:46] <ice9> lol
[03:46] <Fr0Gs> yeh but it doesnt free up any space
[03:46] <kassah_> Xenguy, and how do I install it once I find it?
[03:46] <ice9> how can I build a cue fiel
[03:46] <ice9> file
[03:46] <Xenguy> kassah_: apt-get install packagename
[03:47] <Xenguy> kassah_: sudo/root is required
[03:47] <kassah_> thanks!
[03:47] <Xenguy> kassah_: yw
[03:47] <mustard5> Fr0Gs, try locate <filename>
[03:48] <Delvien>  i just removed my DESKTOP , is there an undo button in terminal.. im about to go crazy.
[03:48] <Xenguy> Fr0Gs: cd / && sudo find . -iname file.avi
[03:48] <Xenguy> Fr0Gs: to find a file of that name
[03:48] <kassah_> Xenguy, do I need to update my local package list somehow?
[03:48] <Xenguy> Fr0Gs: that is a brute-force search, and may take a little time, depending
[03:49] <Xenguy> kassah_: yes...
[03:49] <DShepherd> do you guys prefer find or locate to search for stuff?
[03:49] <Xenguy> kassah_: sudo apt-get update  <- first
[03:49] <kassah_> thankee :)
[03:49] <mustard5> DShepherd, I use locate...others use find it seems
[03:49] <Xenguy> DShepherd: locate is faster
[03:49] <kassah_> thanks a bunch
[03:49] <sadaiyag> so...
[03:49] <DShepherd> mustard5, Xenguy ok
[03:49] <Delvien> nalioth I accidently pressed enter when i was trying to remove a file on my desktop. but removed Desktop instead. i did sudo rm -r .home/dm/Desktop , is there a way to undo this, because i just deleted ALL my MP3s and pictures and documents, and everything
[03:50] <DShepherd> Delvien: :O
[03:50] <ice9> does anyone know of a channel that could help me burn images and make cue files
[03:50] <mustard5> Delvien, I think you just lost your desktop for good
[03:50] <Delvien> omfg
[03:50] <Xenguy> Delvien: backups are your friend
[03:50] <nalioth> Delvien: i'm afraid there is no known way to get that stuff back w/o prior preperation
[03:50] <Delvien> im about to shoot myself
[03:50] <bmrtin> is there a list for apt repos somewhere
[03:50] <egon_spengler> Delvien, You just sent EVERYTHING into the bit bucket of no return
[03:50] <bmrtin> i cant seem to find any
[03:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bmrtin about sources
[03:50] <DShepherd> Delvien: sorry man
[03:51] <sadaiyag> i am thinking of installing ubuntu on my new system...
[03:51] <dylan_> how do i stop totem from attempting to play movies it doesnt have codecs for in mozilla firefox?  i want it to stop
[03:51] <sadaiyag> but will i be able to play games on it ?
[03:51] <bmrtin> thanks
[03:51] <DShepherd> that's one thing that people complain about with the unix command rm
[03:51] <NeoKre8or> sadaiyag: what kind of games?
[03:51] <mustard5> DShepherd, what were you trying to do?
[03:51] <mustard5> DShepherd, oops wrong nick
[03:51] <DShepherd> mustard5: :)
[03:51] <mustard5> Delvien, what were you trying to remove?
[03:52] <sadaiyag> earth 2160... that FPS called Gun... the upcoming "Spore"
[03:52] <Delvien> fmustard5 a file on my desktop...
[03:52] <DShepherd> mustard5: he was triying to remove a file
[03:52] <DShepherd> mustard5: hi fingers when too fast
[03:52] <mustard5> Delvien, it would have been safer to cd ~/Desktop
[03:52] <sadaiyag> Neokre8r:  is this possible or no ?
[03:52] <mustard5> Delvien, then rm from inside that directory
[03:52] <DShepherd> mustard5: I dont think he cares to hear that now
[03:52] <DShepherd> mustard5: he's in pain...
[03:52] <mustard5> DShepherd, true
[03:52] <T-Bird> how goes it?
[03:53] <Moco> Hey, whenever i run ./configure, it says that it can't create executables..
[03:53] <Xenguy> Delvien: reminds me of the time I wiped out my windows filesystem from linux with a rm -rf command - yeah, painful learning experience
[03:53] <T-Bird> kinda new here, just saying hi
[03:53] <DShepherd> T-Bird: welcome...you will learn alot :)
[03:53] <T-Bird> I'm hoping
[03:53] <sadaiyag> so is that possible ?
[03:53] <DShepherd> Xenguy: that gives me an idea, i am new to linux too but..I doing to right a Trash command...
[03:53] <sadaiyag> does linux have good support for the latest video cards ?
[03:54] <DShepherd> right = write*
[03:54] <nickrud> A quick survey: who has home on separate partitions?
[03:54] <T-Bird> used to use Gentoo, now using Ubuntu..liking it a lot
[03:54] <dylan_> how do i stop totem from attempting to play movies it doesnt have codecs for in mozilla firefox?  i want it to stop
[03:54] <DShepherd> nickrud: had.. not anymore
[03:54] <Delvien> How do i remake my Desktop then?
[03:54] <Delvien> THIS SUCKS OMG
[03:54] <Xenguy> DShepherd: it's what folks coming from windows seem to expect, even though it is not the traditional *nix way :-)
[03:54] <Delvien> EVERYHING is gone,
[03:54] <Delvien> 15 hours of work ahead of me for pressing enter by accident
[03:55] <Xenguy> Delvien: those commands are powerful, yes
[03:55] <DShepherd> Xenguy: yeah... but we must admit...it is safer...to an extent
[03:55] <Xenguy> DShepherd: yep, no question
[03:55] <mustard5> Delvien, you can cd ~/  and then mkdir .Desktop I would think
[03:55] <Delvien> Xenguy and it didnt even remove the one thing i wanted, and i cant delete it at all now. ,
[03:56] <T-Bird> is there a way to update to 5.10 from 5.04?  links appreciated
[03:56] <Xenguy> Delvien: you should make backing up your important data your first priority now that you have had this experience -- then, next time it happens, you will just laugh and restore from backup
[03:56] <alfredo> hola
[03:56] <DShepherd> dylan_: check your /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins for the totem plugin and move it to somewhere else...your desktop maybe...that should work...
[03:57] <Delvien> Xenguy i would think linux is more intelligent than that.. thats one of the reasons i switched over to linux. But obviously its no better than windows in that asspect, just as retarded
[03:57] <dylan_> DShepherd, could i just delete it
[03:57] <DShepherd> dylan_: yeah..but....there's no coming back with rm..
[03:58] <dylan_> DShepherd, if its a stupid plugin that i dont care about...no worries i can just install it again with synaptic right?
[03:58] <Xenguy> Delvien: *nix assumes you know what you are doing when you issue commands; sometimes that can be painful when you don't have backups, as you just found out.  My condolences :-/
[03:58] <jsubl2> T-Bird, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:58] <DShepherd> dylan_: what ever fuggles your muggle
[03:58] <dylan_> DShepherd, which means i can?
[03:58] <DShepherd> dylan_: yup
[03:58] <Delvien> Xenguy in other words, people new to linux are screwed and bound to fuck up everything
[03:59] <DShepherd> dylan_: it's jamaican talk...well more my frens tank
[03:59] <DShepherd> talk*
[03:59] <mustard5> Delvien, take a deep breath and count to ten
[03:59] <Obsidians> What does this error mean? "glxgears: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:59] <Obsidians> " I'm using an Athlon64 and I'm trying to get my ATI drivers installed properly.
[03:59] <mustard5> Delvien, swearing will get you kicked out of channel
[03:59] <DShepherd> Delvien: that's where GUI comes in..
[03:59] <Xenguy> Delvien: look at it this way: since you didn't have any backups, your hard drive could have simply failed, and everything would be lost.  It would be the same result, and have nothing to do with linux.  You just learned a hard lesson about backups, that's all.
[03:59] <Delvien> mustard5 hard to do when i now have so much more crap to work on now, it will be a week before i get EVERYTHING back
[03:59] <_jason> Delvien, you might want to also alias rm as "rm -i" so that it makes you confirm deletions
[04:00] <rixth> How do I make strace only capture filesystem operations?
[04:00] <mustard5> Delvien, we all know what you are feeling...we have all done it before ourselves
[04:00] <Delvien> _jason didnt know that..
[04:00] <nalioth_zZz> Delvien: we've all done it. i have personally lost over 40gb of stuff accidentally
[04:00] <DShepherd> Delvien: a week!!!! thats great!!
[04:00] <Delvien> lol
[04:00] <mustard5> Delvien, your not alone ;)
[04:00] <rixth> I need to trace everything httpd does to the filesystem
[04:00] <DShepherd> Delvien: so wat are you complaining about...!!
[04:00] <egon_spengler> Delvien, Did you issue a command to rm -r a SPECIFIC directory on the Desktop?
[04:00] <yucel> hii
[04:01] <Delvien> no i hit enter by accident on Desktop
[04:01] <Delvien> sudo rm -r /home/dm/Desktop/
[04:01] <DShepherd> Delvien: a week is great recovery time....remember last week...
[04:01] <DShepherd> ?
[04:01] <Delvien> the file i want to delete i cant even sudo rm -r  it
[04:01] <shea_> !-gpgerr
[04:01] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, shea_
[04:01] <shea_> !gpgerr
[04:01] <ubotu> it has been said that gpgerr is If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*
[04:02] <sazwerx> how to change the splashscreen?
[04:02] <DShepherd> sazwerx: system- prefs- splash
[04:02] <WhyvasLT> where do you change the default app that opens a certain file extension
[04:02] <WhyvasLT> ?
[04:03] <mustard5> WhyvasLT, right click on the file and choose properties and go to the open with tab
[04:03] <shea_> why do I get a gpgerr I just installed...
[04:03] <Obsidians> What does this error mean? "glxgears: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"?
[04:03] <sazwerx> DShepherd, cant find it..
[04:03] <shea_> and, there are none of those files ubotu references.
[04:03] <devint> can anybody tell me how i can set up my computer to be a dns server on a local network?
[04:03] <shea_> And, I changed from ca.blah, to just blah
[04:03] <mustard5> WhyvasLT, if you are talking about totem then its more complex
[04:03] <DShepherd> sazwerx: are you using ubuntu?
[04:03] <shea_> come on.
[04:03] <Moco> why cn't I compile anything?
[04:03] <Delvien> http://pastebin.ca/29458
[04:03] <sazwerx> DShepherd, yes..
[04:04] <WhyvasLT> no
[04:04] <Delvien> anyone help with that?
[04:04] <sazwerx> DShepherd, i cant find the splash menu on Preferences menu
[04:04] <WhyvasLT> there's an open with, but no option to always open with that app
[04:04] <DShepherd> sazwerx: that's weird...it should be right there
[04:04] <Delvien> Dshepherd http://pastebin.ca/29458 how do i chown it?
[04:04] <shea_> now its gone...go figure.
[04:04] <DShepherd> WhyvasLT: click the Add button and search for the app
[04:04] <rightc0ast> Delvien, ouch :(, done it to like they said happens to everyone once
[04:04] <shea_> I said go figure!
[04:05] <shea_> why are you all still here?
[04:05] <shea_> sorry, jj.
[04:05] <shea_> later.:P
[04:05] <Delvien> can someone tell me the command to chown a root file to me (dm)?
[04:06] <_jason> Delgul, sudo chown dm.dm filename
[04:06] <DShepherd> Delvien: chown <user> <file>
[04:06] <fevoldj2> I'm in System Settings and I'm trying to setup directory sharing, but the samba menu won't strech out all the way...
[04:07] <sazwerx> DShepherd, solved! it's in the "gTweakUI-Session" menu..
[04:07] <Moco> I am not able to ./configure anything. I keep getting GCC errors..
[04:07] <DShepherd> sazwerx: ok You installed GtweakUI and it changed up the menus?
[04:08] <mustard5> Moco, have you installed build-essential?
[04:08] <Delvien> no matter what i do i cant remove this file, even running as root....
[04:08] <Delvien> http://pastebin.ca/29458
[04:08] <Moco> mustard, let me check
[04:08] <mustard5> Delvien, it has read only permissions
[04:08] <Delvien> how do i change that?
[04:08] <sazwerx> DShepherd, yeah.. maybe.. ^^
[04:08] <DShepherd> Delvien: try sudo chown <user> <file>
[04:08] <DShepherd> sazwerx: k, I didnt know that
[04:08] <Delvien> Dshepherd i did , still giving me that
[04:08] <runedude_> ok, i tried another thing i read bout on google.. it didnt work either
[04:08] <mustard5> Delvien, do a chmod +w filename I think
[04:09] <runedude_> whatever i do, ubuntu isnt working as a router
[04:09] <sazwerx> DShepherd, it's ok.. thanks, bro
[04:09] <runedude_> so, is there anyway to do this? i know someone has? i dont really want responses such as "buy a router" because im trying to be out of the blue here :( i just want to make my own router
[04:09] <fukngruv> hello I ran apt-get install joystick but I am still having problems getting joystick to work any pointers?
[04:09] <Moco> looks like I didn't.. but i was working a few days ago. That may be the problem..
[04:10] <DShepherd> Delvien: didnt you said you deleted your Desktop?
[04:10] <DShepherd> said-say*
[04:10] <runedude_> i read a tutorial (i later figured out it was made for 4.10) and it didnt work
[04:10] <Delvien> mustard5 wont let me change permissions, and wont let me delete it
[04:10] <Delvien> Dshepherd yes
[04:10] <fevoldj2> Hi
[04:10] <fevoldj2> Is there an app with a gui to configure samba?
[04:10] <mustard5> DShepherd, the file that he wanted to delete on Desktop had read only permissions
[04:10] <runedude_> time for webmin, i guess
[04:10] <fukngruv> can anyone help me install my joystick in ubuntu
[04:11] <DShepherd> Delvien: so why are you deleting a file that is supposed to be in your Desktop directory
[04:11] <Red-Sox> varsendagger ?
[04:11] <Delvien> and wont let me change those permissions..
[04:11] <pztak> i'm trying to resize an unmounted fat32 drive (external usb) using gparted... and after running for a long while i got an error that it can't perform the operation.. any ideas?
[04:11] <Moco> Thanks mustard5, I'm such a noob. Installed it and it is working now. Thanks!
[04:11] <Delvien> Dsphepherd thats the thing , i deleted Desktop supposidly, but it didnt delete the file, it deleted EVERYTHING else in the Desktop
[04:11] <mustard5> Moco, no problem, its a common question
[04:12] <DShepherd> Delvien: oh...I hope you dont mind this.....KOOL!!
[04:12] <fukngruv> Can sombody help out a newbie one more time?
[04:12] <pztak> fukngruv, i can try
[04:12] <Delvien> Dshepherd did exactly the opposite of what i was trying to do
[04:12] <Delvien> Dshepherd but now i cant delete the god damn file
[04:12] <fukngruv> thanks man i used apt get to install my joystick but I still can't get it to work
[04:13] <mustard5> Delvien, you still logged in as root?
[04:13] <DShepherd> Delvien: easy with the swearing
[04:13] <mustard5> Delvien, I have a suggestion for you, but you need to use gksudo
[04:13] <pztak> fukngruv, i'm sorry, i have never tried setting up a joystick.. did you check dmesg to see what's going on?
[04:13] <fukngruv> no one sec
[04:13] <fukngruv> syntax?
[04:13] <Moco> Probably corrupted Delvien
[04:13] <mustard5> Delvien, have you made you .Desktop directory again?
[04:14] <DShepherd> Delvien: do a ls -al in the directory and tell me the owner of the file
[04:14] <devint> can anybody PLEASE tell me how to get my computer to be a dns server on my local network?
[04:14] <runedude_> devint: bind
[04:14] <EloraKun> Hi. Which script/application may I run in order to modify my /boot/grub/menu.lst? I am trying to add eLive as an option for booting
[04:14] <ilba7r> it seem that the lib path for java is improper after installing sun Java Jre2 any one know where to correct that?
[04:14] <Delvien> mustard5 it wasnt deleted, it couldnt because it could not delete the file in the desktop that is read only
[04:15] <pztak> EloraKun, you can use gedit or nano
[04:15] <_jason> EloraKun, any text editor
[04:15] <mustard5> Delvien, log out of root and use gksudo nautilus
[04:15] <ksmurf> gday all .  is there an easy way to turn a tar.gz into a deb?
[04:15] <DShepherd> Delvien: who owns the file that your are trying to delete
[04:15] <Delvien> Dshepherd in the file i was trying to remove or desktop
[04:15] <fukngruv> tells me my game port speed and stuff not sure what I'm looking for
[04:15] <mustard5> Delvien, that will open nautilus with root privileges
[04:15] <EloraKun> _jason: I know, but I cannot find initrd.img, so I hope an automated process can do the trick
[04:15] <DShepherd> DShepherd: the file
[04:15] <Delvien> Dshepherd Konqueror for me hehe under KDE
[04:16] <mustard5> Delvien, oh..ok
[04:16] <mustard5> Delvien, then my advice is no good
[04:16] <devint> runedude_: through gnome though?
[04:16] <mustard5> Delvien, I was assuming you used gnome
[04:16] <DShepherd> Delvien: huh? Iam asking you who owns the file
[04:16] <etzerd> hey all
[04:17] <ice9> does anyone use k3b ?
[04:17] <DShepherd> etzerd: hey
[04:17] <etzerd> is there any new version  of Ubuntu recently
[04:17] <fukngruv> why does my dmesg say I have no high mem available?
[04:17] <fukngruv> reads my ram as lomem is that normal?
[04:17] <Delvien> Dshepherd one sec
[04:17] <ice9> I get an error when trying to burn says cdrecord doesn;'t have permissions to open device
[04:17] <DShepherd> etzerd: yes ubuntu breezy
[04:17] <DShepherd> Delvien: ok
[04:17] <ice9> can someone help pls
[04:17] <EloraKun> So my question is: which script does ubuntu call when asked to configure boot loader?
[04:17] <Delvien> Dshepherd root does.
[04:17] <mustard5> ksmurf, there is a way instead of doing a make install I think you do a checkinstall
[04:17] <etzerd> ubuntu breezy
[04:17] <mustard5> !checkinstall
[04:17] <ubotu> methinks checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[04:17] <etzerd> where can I download that
[04:17] <fukngruv> can someone tell me somthing?
[04:18] <mustard5> ksmurf, see that link from ubotu?
[04:18] <etzerd> since when it is out
[04:18] <runedude_> hmm
[04:18] <runedude_> devint: no
[04:18] <DShepherd> Delvien: ok....so you can sudo chown dm <filename> <-- with the brackets
[04:18] <runedude_> through a terminal
[04:18] <DShepherd> etzerd: trying www.ubuntulinux.org
[04:19] <runedude_> why cant ubuntu work as a router? do i need to spend more money to just buy a  2nd router for 2 computers usage?
[04:19] <ksmurf> mustard thanks
[04:19] <Delvien> Dshepherd r
[04:19] <Delvien> Dshepherd bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[04:19] <DShepherd> Delvien: I mean without the brackts
[04:19] <DShepherd> srry ;)
[04:19] <Rubin> runedude: ubuntu routes just fine
[04:19] <DShepherd> brackets*
[04:19] <Rubin> runedude: linux is linux
[04:19] <mustard5> ksmurf, is it a source or binary install?
[04:19] <runedude_> Rubin: not for me, it doesnt
[04:19] <runedude_> for me, im having so many problems with it.. its annoying :\
[04:20] <Delvien> Dshepherd chown: changing ownership of `/home/dm/Desktop/Mount-ISO (Photoshop 7.0.ISO)': Read-only file system
[04:20] <mustard5> ksmurf, I think it needs to be source for checkinstall anyway...I've never used it, just heard of it
[04:20] <Rubin> runedude: thats too bad, routing can be complex to configure
[04:20] <runedude_> Rubin: so theres no HOWTOS to do it?
[04:20] <DShepherd> Delvien: your filesystem is read-only.....
[04:20] <runedude_> easy ones, that arent so difficult to understand?
[04:20] <firestorm> Hi all. I don't want the module 'cdc_acm' to auto-load when I plug in my mobile phone via USB...is there a way to disable this module from auto-loading?
[04:20] <Delvien> Dshepherd ? what does that mean?
[04:21] <DShepherd> Your filesystem is mounted as read-only
[04:21] <sethk> firestorm, rename it
[04:21] <DShepherd> Delvien: Your filesystem is mounted as read-only
[04:21] <Delvien> Dshepherd its on my root.. how can it be read only?
[04:21] <Rubin> runedude: theres tons. and tools to help. but since every routing situation is different its hard to make it simple
[04:21] <DShepherd> Delvien: I dont know
[04:21] <sethk> Rubin is very correct.  Routing is actually amazingly complex.
[04:21] <jrattner1> is there anyway to make my music player play a minute of each song in my collection?
[04:21] <sethk> although much of the complexity is in router configuration.
[04:21] <mustard5> DShepherd, partitions mount as read-only when they have encountered errors...would that be it?
[04:21] <Delvien> Dshepherd /sigh this is disturbing.. im about to smash my HD with a hammer
[04:21] <holy_cow> routing is also fragile
[04:22] <runedude_> yes, sethk , but even if it is complex, theres gotta be some way to do it without too much hassle
[04:22] <Rubin> jrattner1: write a script that controls xmms maybe
[04:22] <holy_cow> you can be 99.9999% correct and not know it
[04:22] <firestorm> sethk: how do you mean rename it? where should it be renamed?
[04:22] <runedude_> i just want to be able to connect to the internet through my ubuntu machine.. thats all
[04:22] <DShepherd> Delvien: can you see any other thing in the Desktop directory?
[04:22] <holy_cow> because the .000001% error will break it
[04:22] <DShepherd> Delvien: ls -al
[04:22] <sethk> firestorm, it is in the /lib/modules/####   tree  (the ### is the kernel version you are running)
[04:22] <Rubin> runedude: i think some tools try to make it easy.. firestarter has an option (but its not necessarily reccomended)
[04:22] <sethk> firestorm, but if you rename it, it will never be able to load,
[04:22] <sethk> firestorm, which may not be what you want.
[04:23] <firestorm> sethk: thought there would have been a cleaner solution? what if I comment out the line in /etc/modules.d/aliases?
[04:23] <Delvien> DShepherd
[04:23] <sethk> firestorm, the problem with that is it may still load because of a dependency
[04:23] <Delvien> DShepherd http://pastebin.ca/29463
[04:23] <Moco> Sorry to ask another stupid question, but now the compiler is saying ncurses needs to be installed. I checked and all of it is installed. I'm confused..
[04:23] <sethk> firestorm, it is a hack solution, but it is effective.  :)
[04:23] <sethk> Moco, that sometimes means that an earlier version of curses is needed
[04:24] <DShepherd> Delvien: oh :)
[04:24] <firestorm> sethk: there is no file cdc_acm under any subdir of /lib/modules/<kernel-ver>
[04:24] <Moco> Where can thes be obtained, sethk?
[04:24] <DShepherd> Delvien: your kool
[04:24] <Moco> these
[04:24] <sethk> firestorm, it will be something like cdc_acm.ko
[04:24] <Delvien> DShepherd why?
[04:24] <sethk> firestorm, look for *cdc_acm*
[04:24] <DShepherd> Delvien: you see there's no w's -- meaning....root cant write
[04:25] <DShepherd> Delvien: or anyone for that matter
[04:25] <firestorm> sethk: no such luck I'm afraid...even did a sudo updatedb; locate cdc_acm and got no results
[04:25] <runedude_> has any person here.. every been able to connect to their ubuntu machine through a windows computer, and have almost like XP's Internet Connection Sharing?
[04:25] <Delvien> so im screwed?
[04:25] <mustard5> Delvien, no
[04:25] <snausages> how long does it take for the CDs to arrive if it shipit says "sent to shipping company"
[04:25] <DShepherd> Delvien: nah.. all you need to do is chmod
[04:25] <sethk> runedude_, you need the name listed from lsmod
[04:25] <DShepherd> Delvien: know how to use that command?
[04:25] <runedude_> what name, sethk ?
[04:25] <Delvien> Dshepherd not really,
[04:25] <runedude_> ipt_MASQUERADE ?
[04:26] <sethk> runedude_, I don't know, as I don't have that module.  But lsmod lists the names of the modules that are loaded, and those names correspond to files in /lib/modules/whatever
[04:26] <runedude_> mmmm
[04:26] <DShepherd> Delvien: sudo chmod +w <filename>
[04:26] <runedude_> how do i change one of them?
[04:26] <sethk> runedude_, the kernel configuration will also tell you the module name, if you have it set up to run make xconfig
[04:26] <mustard5> Delvien, cd to Desktop  first
[04:26] <sethk> runedude_, you can sometimes do rmmod
[04:26] <runedude_> why would i do rmmod?
[04:26] <runedude_> if i want to use it?
[04:27] <DShepherd> Delvien: then sudo rm -rf <filename> ... be more careful this time
[04:27] <sethk> runedude_, you said you don't want it to run, I thought
[04:27] <Delvien> chmod: changing permissions of `Mount-ISO (Photoshop 7.0.ISO)': Read-only file system
[04:27] <runedude_> no, i do
[04:27] <runedude_> i want to get onto the internet through my ubuntu router
[04:27] <mustard5> Delvien, its sound like your hard drive has errors and has remounted as read only
[04:27] <DShepherd> Delvien: now...that's bad
[04:27] <Delvien> omg..
[04:27] <Delvien> kill me
[04:27] <sethk> runedude_, sorry I got two conversations mixed.  I have built routers.  tell me your problem?
[04:27] <mustard5> Delvien, you are going to need a liveCD to run fsck on that partition
[04:28] <DShepherd> mustard5: no necessarily,,, maybe a reboot will sort out things
[04:28] <runedude_> sethk: ok. my ubuntu router has a wireless connection (works fine, im irssing through it right now), and i have a windows pc across the room.. i need to connect to my ubuntu pc and be able to use the internet through my windows computer
[04:28] <Delvien> mustard5 how do i access my root on my hd from LiveCD
[04:28] <DShepherd> mustard5: Delvien it should do a fsck on reboot
[04:28] <mustard5> Delvien, yeah reboot might fix it
[04:28] <Delvien> or can i just run recovery ?
[04:29] <Delvien> lemme try it
[04:29] <DShepherd> Delvien: try a reboot
[04:29] <DShepherd> ok
[04:29] <mustard5> DShepherd, lets hope he gets back :)
[04:29] <runedude_> sethk: kinda like the "internet connection sharing" implementation in XP.
[04:29] <DShepherd> mustard5: man..I hope he gets thru..he seems to be having a really bad dat
[04:29] <DShepherd> daY*
[04:29] <DShepherd> mustard5: I hope so too
[04:30] <sethk> runedude, you mean you want the windows box to be on the same subnet as the ubuntu box, and have the ubuntu box have the internet connection through a separate NIC?
[04:30] <runedude_> sethk: yes
[04:30] <sethk> runedude_, ok, I probably missed you having already checked common stuff, so apologies if this is repetitive ...
[04:30] <sethk> runedude_, you have ip forwarding enabled?
[04:31] <purplefeltangel> anyone know of an msn client other than Gaim?
[04:31] <runedude_> sethk: im sorry, im not a good explainer.. and really i am not sure if i do
[04:31] <mustard5> purplefeltangel, amsn
[04:31] <sethk> runedude_, run this:   sysctl -a | grep -i forward
[04:31] <purplefeltangel> mustard5 thank you
[04:31] <runedude_> ok
[04:31] <runedude_> hmm
[04:31] <DShepherd> mustard5: have you ever used amsn?
[04:31] <runedude_> it returns quite alot
[04:31] <sethk> runedude_, that will show you the state of several kernel forwariding switches
[04:31] <sethk> runedude_, let me get you the exact name, then
[04:31] <runedude_> let me try something here
[04:31] <mustard5> DShepherd, never..I like GAIM :)
[04:32] <DShepherd> mustard5: same here
[04:32] <runedude_> eth0 == my ethernet cable connection connecting 2 computers, ra0 == my internet
[04:32] <DShepherd> mustard5: using it now
[04:32] <mustard5> DShepherd, I've got multiple IM accounts
[04:32] <sethk> runedude_, one thing at a time.  :)  You want to look at net.ipv4.ip_forward
[04:32] <DShepherd> mustard5: same here
[04:32] <runedude_> ok
[04:32] <sethk> runedude_, it should say   = 1
[04:32] <runedude_> it says =0
[04:32] <runedude_> :\ hmm..
[04:33] <runedude_> i swear i set these things to 1
[04:33] <pudland> ?? Is anyone familiar Microchip's MPLAB??
[04:33] <runedude_> sethk: how can i change it to 1?
[04:33] <sethk> runedude_, sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
[04:33] <Delvien> mustard5 a reboot fixed it
[04:33] <sethk> runedude_, with sudo, unless you are root
[04:33] <runedude_> nvm, got it
[04:34] <Delvien> mustard5 now to rebuild my 2,000 mp3 files...
[04:34] <runedude_> ok
[04:34] <pudland> ?? Embedded Programming MPLAB anyone??
[04:34] <runedude_> so i need to change the others?
[04:34] <alekz> wich pkg should i install to burn mp3 files to wav ?
[04:34] <alekz> k3b-mp3 ?
[04:34] <jrsims> embedded ubuntu? is there such a thing?
[04:34] <mustard5> Delvien, glad to hear the reboot fixed it
[04:34] <bob832> hi there everyone
[04:35] <sethk> runedude_, no, just that one.  assuming you aren't running ipv6
[04:35] <runedude_> nope
[04:35] <runedude_> no ipv6..
[04:35] <runedude_> hm... so, just reboot the windows machine and it should work?
[04:35] <sethk> runedude_, the others are for lower level stuff
[04:35] <sethk> runedude_, you shouldn't need to reboot
[04:35] <runedude_> hmm
[04:35] <sethk> runedude_, but we haven't checked everything yet
[04:35] <runedude_> ok
[04:35] <sethk> runedude_, is the ubuntu box the default gateway for the windows box?
[04:35] <ilba7r> i remeber there were an entry in the gnome menu to set java under system anyone know which package to install to have that?
[04:35] <runedude_> yes sethk
[04:36] <meefer> Anyone know how to make Thunderbird DL all messages, not just new ones?
[04:36] <pudland> I use WINXP I'm trying out UBUNTU
[04:36] <sethk> runedude_, ok, and ubuntu is already working to the net - you are talking to me on it.
[04:36] <runedude_> sethk: yes
[04:37] <runedude_> im sshed to the ubuntu box
[04:37] <runedude_> thru my windows computer using putty
[04:37] <pudland> Does UBUNTU have a MICROCHIP (PIC) TOOL
[04:37] <Xenguy> pudland: what is its function?
[04:37] <sethk> runedude_, ok.  let's test the windows box.  If it doesn't work, try doing a tracert from the windows box
[04:37] <meefer> Please stop with the caps, unless its an acronymn
[04:37] <sethk> runedude_, tracert is the poor man's traceroute you'll find in windows
[04:38] <runedude_> ok
[04:38] <sethk> runedude_, unless cygwin is installed, in which case you'll have a real traceroute
[04:38] <pudland> PIC programmer in LIEW of MPLAB
[04:38] <pudland> LIE*
[04:38] <Xenguy> pudland: what is its function?
[04:38] <runedude_> so where should i tracert to?
[04:39] <meefer> Anyone know how to make Thunderbird DL all messages? not just the new ones
[04:39] <runedude_> fyi: 192.168.0.1 == ubuntu router 192.168.1.1 == my real router
[04:39] <sethk> runedude, anything on the 'net.  freenode, for example   (irc.freenode.net)
[04:39] <pudland> MPLAB is the TOOL microchip provides for there chip programmers
[04:39] <Eternalist> whatup
[04:39] <runedude_> ok
[04:39] <runedude_> well
[04:39] <sethk> runedude, first try the traceroute from the command line in ubuntu, to make sure that it should work
[04:39] <meefer> ?
[04:39] <Xenguy> pudland: you're not getting it :-)
[04:39] <meefer> Doesnt anyone use Thunderbird?
[04:39] <pudland> Basically I  need MPLAB to run in LINUX...
[04:40] <runedude_> yes, traceroute to irc.freenode.net works on ubuntu
[04:40] <mcjerry> i installed amd64.iso, then followed How-To: 2.6.14 Vanilla Kernel (latest) + ck Patchset here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84174&highlight=vanillaand am having trouble with sta hard drive
[04:40] <runedude_> but on the winblows pc it returns "Cannot find host"
[04:40] <runedude_> or w/e
[04:40] <Xenguy> pudland: never heard of it; WINE may be worth looking into.  You need google this one me thinks
[04:40] <runedude_> and I know im using my ISP nameserver
[04:41] <pudland> Xenguy: Thanks much
[04:41] <sethk> runedude_, try it by ip
[04:41] <runedude_> i did, it returns destination host failed or w/e
[04:41] <sethk> runedude_, separate the name server issues from the routing issues
[04:41] <runedude_> destination host unreachable
[04:41] <mcjerry> specifically, in original insall dev/sda1 is windows partition ntfs,  and dev/sdb1 is ntfs partition for storage
[04:41] <sethk> runedude_, do "route print" on the windows box
[04:41] <Xenguy> pudland: HTH
[04:42] <runedude_> ok
[04:42] <runedude_> just a sec, brb
[04:42] <mcjerry> I could access both sda1 and sdb1 after original install, but cannot access sdb1 after new kernel install
[04:42] <mcjerry> whe?
[04:42] <pztak> any ideas:
[04:42] <pztak> [4382745.367000]  SCSI error : <4 0 0 0> return code = 0x8000002
[04:42] <pztak> [4382745.367000]  sda: Current: sense key: Hardware Error
[04:42] <pztak> [4382745.367000]      Additional sense: Data phase error
[04:42] <pztak> [4382745.367000]  end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 337974560
[04:42] <pztak> [4382745.367000]  Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 42246820
[04:43] <sethk> runedude, do you have any iptables configuration on the ubuntu box that may be causing the problem?
[04:43] <sethk> pztak, what kind of device?
[04:43] <Xenguy> pztak: we generally ignore people who flood
[04:43] <pztak> it's an external usb drive
[04:43] <pztak> i was running gparted trying to resize it
[04:43] <purplefeltangel> how come firefox is trying to open JPG images in Image Viewer instead of just in the browser?
[04:43] <pztak> and i'm getting a lot of I/O errors now..
[04:43] <runedude_> sethk: ok, should i paste it somewhere?
[04:43] <sethk> pztak, parted does funky stuff.
[04:43] <pztak> as well as: [4376237.404000]  ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[04:44] <runedude_> i know not to in here
[04:44] <sethk> runedude, sure, put it on a paste bot, let's see it.
[04:44] <runedude_> mmm
[04:44] <Xenguy> runedude_: see /topic
[04:44] <runedude_> sethk: can i query you with it? i cant get to the pastebin without firefox working :(
[04:45] <runedude_> Xenguy: i know what a pastebin is, and i know where to find it :\
[04:45] <sethk> runedude, sure
[04:45] <runedude_> i just cant access it without using firefox
[04:46] <Xenguy> runedude_: then you don't really need to announce that to me, do you :-)
[04:46] <pztak> this is really strange, i see a lot of IO errors in dmesg and i'm worried something is really screwed up.. i also see hdc packet command error? i dont understand how hdc is involve with parted..
[04:46] <XRange> does anyonne have problem with "gksudo" locking up the screen ?
[04:46] <pztak> and FAT: bread failed
[04:46] <DShepherd> runedude can use any other browser too
[04:46] <mcjerry> can anyone help me with ntfs drive access problem on dev/sdb1
[04:46] <runedude_> ugh
[04:46] <runedude_> ok sethk just a sec
[04:46] <runedude_> gotta identify, heh
[04:47] <pztak> [4365714.794000]  scsi2 (0:0): rejecting I/O to dead device
[04:47] <pztak>    ---- what's going on? i can still mount the drive and all.. should i be worried?
[04:47] <DShepherd> mcjerry: ask your question and someone will try and help
[04:47] <mcjerry> i installed amd64.iso, then followed How-To: 2.6.14 Vanilla Kernel (latest) + ck Patchset here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84174&highlight=vanillaand am having trouble with sta hard drive
[04:47] <mcjerry> specifically, in original insall dev/sda1 is windows partition ntfs,  and dev/sdb1 is ntfs partition for storage
[04:47] <mcjerry> I could access both sda1 and sdb1 after original install, but cannot access sdb1 after new kernel install
[04:48] <sethk> mcjerry, you have to enable ntfs in the kernel config
[04:48] <mcjerry> dev/sda1 is ntfs partition and I am able to access it
[04:49] <mcjerry> ntfs read enabled in kernel config
[04:49] <rabeldable> !wiki
[04:50] <rabeldable> anyone here know what type of wiki the ubuntu documentation is maintained with?
[04:50] <Madpilot> rabeldable: it's called MoinMoin...
[04:51] <mcjerry> made a /media/storage directory and placed correct line in /etc/fstab
[04:51] <mcjerry> then typed
[04:52] <mcjerry> mcjerry@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -a
[04:52] <mcjerry> mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media/storage busy
[04:52] <mcjerry> got above error
[04:52] <mcjerry> ?
[04:52] <mcjerry> nothing else could have been using storage directory as it was just made prior
[04:53] <sethk> mcjerry, you tried an ls to make sure it is, in fact, not mounted?
[04:53] <GTroy> !source.list
[04:53] <ubotu> GTroy: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:53] <GTroy> !sources.list
[04:53] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:54] <mcjerry> ls no results, in gnome - system - disk manager, can see sdb1 but will not enable
[04:54] <mcjerry> tried both gui and console can't mount
[04:56] <sethk> mcjerry, are you sure the kernel is built with ntfs support?  Sorry if I already asked that.
[04:57] <PokerFacePenguin> PokerFacePenguin is on ice for a while
[04:58] <ULffuntu> Why is it possible to write to an SMBfs that is NTFS but not an actual NTFS mount?
[04:58] <Eternalist> you can write to an SMBfs?
[04:58] <ULffuntu> yeah
[04:58] <Eternalist> wow
[04:58] <Eternalist> ive used it for reading mostly
[04:58] <Eternalist> i keep music on windows PC
[04:58] <ULffuntu> I stream MP3s :)
[04:58] <Eternalist> linux is only good for h4x0rzing
[04:58] <ULffuntu> from a xp box
[04:58] <Eternalist> yeh same
[04:58] <DShepherd> does burning photo cd allow multi-sessions burning using nautilus
[04:58] <sethk> ULffuntu, because the NTFS file system is proprietary, microsoft won't release the details, and the driver doesn't know how to extend a file.
[04:58] <Eternalist> i do the same thing with xbox
[04:59] <mcjerry> yes, ntfs read only support and am able to read /dev/sda1 which is xp ntfs partition
[04:59] <Eternalist> stream files from an xp box
[04:59] <ULffuntu> doesn't answer the q
[04:59] <Eternalist> mcjerry, thats all you need really
[04:59] <Eternalist> what do you want to write to an xp partition anyway?
[04:59] <Eternalist> im trying to think of something and i honestly cant.
[04:59] <mcjerry> ls -l /dev/sd*
[04:59] <Eternalist> i only need to access files on xp sometimes like my music and pictures.
[05:00] <mcjerry> brw-rw----  1 root disk 8,  0 2005-11-19 17:00 /dev/sda
[05:00] <mcjerry> brw-rw----  1 root disk 8,  1 2005-11-19 17:00 /dev/sda1
[05:00] <mcjerry> brw-rw----  1 root disk 8,  2 2005-11-19 17:00 /dev/sda2
[05:00] <mcjerry> brw-rw----  1 root disk 8,  3 2005-11-19 17:00 /dev/sda3
[05:00] <mcjerry> brw-rw----  1 root disk 8,  5 2005-11-19 17:00 /dev/sda5
[05:00] <mcjerry> brw-rw----  1 root disk 8, 16 2005-11-19 17:00 /dev/sdb
[05:00] <mcjerry> brw-rw----  1 root disk 8, 17 2005-11-19 17:00 /dev/sdb1
[05:00] <Eternalist> heck i even got cs source working on here
[05:00] <Eternalist> mcjerry, pastebin.com
[05:00] <Eternalist> if its more than 3-4 lines, don't paste it in here
[05:00] <dabaR> also, dont use enter too much
[05:00] <Eternalist> if theres a newline it automaticlly puts it on a newline
[05:01] <Eternalist> lol
[05:01] <mcjerry>  1862.630294]  NTFS driver 2.1.24 [Flags: R/O MODULE] .
[05:01] <mcjerry> [ 1862.716172]  NTFS volume version 3.1.
[05:01] <mcjerry> [ 1897.377988]  Warning: /proc/ide/hd?/settings interface is obsolete, and will be removed soon!
[05:01] <dabaR> I meant you.
[05:01] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[05:01] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:01] <Eternalist> dabaR, why does it matter?
[05:01] <Eternalist> it was 3 lines
[05:01] <DShepherd> mcjerry: quit..!! pasting
[05:02] <DShepherd> does burning photo cd allow multi-sessions burning using nautilus ?
[05:02] <dabaR> Eternalist: it is just that it makes questions scroll off the screen faster, keep one thought in one line. Also, when people ask a question in several lines you have to piece together what they said, and so, not a biggie in your case...
[05:02] <ULffuntu> Eternalist: whaz your favorite XP m3u lister?
[05:02] <mcjerry> sethk, did that answer your question?
[05:02] <pztak> I keep on getting:
[05:02] <pztak> [4384048.778000]  SCSI error : <4 0 0 0> return code = 0x8000002
[05:02] <pztak> [4384048.778000]  sda: Current: sense key: Hardware Error
[05:02] <pztak> [4384048.778000]      Additional sense: Data phase error
[05:02] <pztak> 
[05:03] <dabaR> !paste
[05:03] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:03] <pztak> after running parted.. now when i try to copy data
[05:03] <sethk> mcjerry, it works with one partition, but not with the other, both are ntfs partitions?
[05:03] <pztak> from my usb disk.. does that mean it's dying?
[05:03] <mcjerry> sethk, correct
[05:03] <XRange> does anyonne have problem with "gksudo" locking up the screen are locking period?
[05:04] <sethk> mcjerry, does it matter whether or not the first is mounted, when you try the second?
[05:04] <dabaR> XRange: you do.
[05:04] <mcjerry> brb, will umount and see
[05:05] <XRange> i wouldn't asked if it wasn't
[05:05] <bob832> if i edit a file in /proc, do i have to restart before the changes take effect?
[05:05] <ULffuntu> XRange: Ctl-Alt-F1
[05:05] <ULffuntu> then maybe killall nautilus
[05:05] <pztak> can anyone pls help with this weird I/O and other device errors i'm getting all of the sudden with my external usb disk?
[05:06] <ULffuntu> pztak tell me
[05:06] <ULffuntu> I'm booting off USB
[05:06] <XRange> ULffuntu : why not just clt, alt, backspace
[05:06] <ULffuntu> yeah
[05:07] <pztak> ULffuntu, alright, basically, it's a fat32 filesystem.. i tried using gparted to resize it and make an ext3 filesystem for backup (using rsync and incremental backup because vfat doesnt support hardlinks)
[05:07] <dabaR> bob832: what file did you edit?
[05:07] <pztak> ULffuntu, it gave me an error after a few hrs, i can paste the dmesg in pm or whereever you'd like
[05:07] <bob832> /proc/asound/card0/oss_mixer
[05:07] <pztak> ULffuntu, i can mount it, but i keep on getting weird Data phase errors and looking back i see device errors during gparted..
[05:07] <mcjerry> sethk, umount'd /dev/sda1, then commented out fstab line for that partition, then mount -a
[05:08] <mcjerry> mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media/storage busy
[05:08] <pztak> ULffuntu, something about rejecting IO because it's a 'dead device'
[05:08] <bob832> still trying to get my volume keys to change PCM instead of master  :-)
[05:08] <mcjerry> same error
[05:08] <keeb> !font
[05:08] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, keeb
[05:08] <sethk> mcjerry, did you try mounting it somewhere else?  just make a directory somewhere
[05:08] <keeb> guys i have a question about ubuntu
[05:08] <ULffuntu> pztak: did you get my PM?
[05:08] <pztak> ULffuntu, no i didnt ??
[05:08] <keeb> why is the text in the UI so huge even at a low resolution?
[05:08] <DShepherd> keeb: dont we all
[05:08] <ULffuntu> lemme try again
[05:08] <keeb> high resolution**
[05:09] <keeb> i am running 1600x1200 and the text is abnormally large
[05:09] <keeb> in system - pref - fonts .. it shows all sizes at 8
[05:09] <keeb> on website's it is perfect/what i would expect
[05:09] <keeb> so i am unsure why text seems to be so huge
[05:09] <XRange> how does one downgrade a package
[05:10] <ULffuntu> pztak: trying opening a dialog box to me :)
[05:10] <pztak> ULffuntu, i just tried.. did you get it? sorry, i'm new to X-Chat..
[05:10] <DShepherd> keeb: try clicking details and see what dpi is set at
[05:10] <ULffuntu> do a right-click on my name and see if it gives you options
[05:10] <mcjerry> sethk, no luck mounting directory /test
[05:11] <pztak> ULffuntu, yes, i have open dialog window.. i did, and i sent a test message
[05:11] <keeb> thanks for that
[05:11] <anavim> how do I change the look and feel of Konsole when I'm running gnome?
[05:11] <keeb> much better jesus christ
[05:11] <DShepherd> keeb: np
[05:11] <ULffuntu> oh shoot they are blocking pms hold on
[05:11] <DShepherd> keeb: no swearing man
[05:11] <mcjerry> sethk, same error
[05:12] <pztak> ah, i have to register the nick
[05:12] <keeb> i wasnt aware i was swearing
[05:12] <keeb> but, no problem ;)
[05:12] <DShepherd> keeb: :) kool, now rule the world
[05:12] <DShepherd> keeb: with linux that is
[05:12] <DShepherd> :)
[05:12] <sethk> mcjerry, I assume that if you boot the system into windows, windows sees both partitions?
[05:13] <mcjerry> sethk, yes, definitely, made sure of that
[05:13] <mcjerry>  1862.630294]  NTFS driver 2.1.24 [Flags: R/O MODULE] .
[05:13] <mcjerry> mcjerry [ 1862.716172]  NTFS volume version 3.1.
[05:13] <mcjerry> means NTFS module compiled correctly?
[05:13] <pztak> ULffuntu, i registered my nick.. can you see my messages now?
[05:13] <sethk> mcjerry, you can mount one of the partitions.  so the kernel works
[05:14] <ULffuntu> got it
[05:14] <ULffuntu> pztak: do you see me?
[05:15] <pztak> ULffuntu, I don't see your messages.. is your nick registered?
[05:15] <mcjerry> k, so how troubleshoot /dev/sdb1 ??
[05:16] <sethk> mcjerry, did you answer my question about seeing both from windows?
[05:16] <keeb> :D
[05:17] <bob832> well, that didn't work  :-)
[05:18] <mcjerry> sethk, yes, definitely both drives working in windows, made sure of it
[05:18] <Terminus> mcjerry, is that just one disk? how did you mount the other partition?
[05:18] <Cartesian1984> how can you make linux do a disk check on boot?
[05:18] <mcjerry> both drives mounting correctly prior to kernel update
[05:19] <mcjerry> Terminus, two seperate SATA drives, sda and sdb
[05:19] <sethk> mcjerry, can you run the old kernel, and still mount both?
[05:19] <mcjerry> sda1 windows partition ntfs, and sdb1 storage ntfs partition, sda1 reading, sdb1 not
[05:19] <mcjerry> sethk, yes
[05:19] <Terminus> mcjerry, oh... i see. thought it was two partitions on one drive. hmmm...
[05:20] <sethk> mcjerry, ok, then I take back what I said about it not being a kernel issue.  :)
[05:20] <sethk> mcjerry, try killing the automounter
[05:20] <dabaR> Seveas: ping
[05:20] <ecobuntu> !javadebs
[05:20] <ubotu> javadebs is probably at Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[05:20] <mcjerry> sethk, relearning linux, last used in 2001, what is command to kill automounter?
[05:21] <sethk> mcjerry, find it with ps aux, then kill it with kill
[05:21] <jrsims> I LOVE UBUNTU!
[05:21] <sethk> mcjerry, I'm thinking that there is some pathelogical interaction among automount, udev, and mount
[05:22] <ecobuntu> yeah ubuntu is great
[05:22] <bob832> jrsims:  thats what i said when i installed it
[05:22] <bob832> lol
[05:22] <ecobuntu> dapper is pretty sweet...but not much different than breezy right now
[05:23] <dabaR> ecobuntu: was that for me?
[05:23] <ecobuntu> dabaR: no did you ask about it?
[05:23] <anavim> ecobuntu, other than being unstable
[05:23] <dabaR> nope.
[05:23] <MacUsr> Hello?
[05:23] <ecobuntu> anavim: doesn't seem to unstable to me
[05:23] <jrsims> have you guys tried Nexenta yet? I heard it's going to kill ubuntu.
[05:23] <dabaR> MacUsr: are you asking?
[05:23] <MacUsr> Will Ubuntu ever be compatible with AirPort Extreme cards?
[05:24] <dabaR> jrsims: hah
[05:24] <jrsims> :)
[05:24] <dabaR> MacUsr: broadcom has not released the specs.
[05:24] <anavim> MacUsr, you need a prism card... they're $15 on ebay
[05:24] <bob832> nope
[05:24] <anavim> MacUsr, prism54.org
[05:24] <mcjerry> sethk, do not see automount?
[05:25] <sethk> it may be triggered by hotswap code
[05:25] <ecobuntu> Nexenta OS now there's an unstable distro ;)
[05:25] <anavim> MacUsr, and don't make the mistake of getting a card with the wrong FCC ID.  That's your only guarantee it's a real prism card
[05:25] <sethk> mcjerry, the fact that it is complaining about /media/storage means that it is trying to use the same resource for both partitions.
[05:25] <sethk> mcjerry, you might want to look at your udev config
[05:25] <DShepherd> do nautilus do multisession burning?
[05:26] <DShepherd> does nautilus do multisession burning?
[05:26] <sethk> mcjerry, I did see something similar when I upgraded a kernel
[05:26] <MacUsr> Thanks. Bye
[05:26] <anavim> ecobuntu, dapper is in development, so accidents do happen  :)
[05:26] <BigKahuna> How can I vew what processes are running using the cli?
[05:26] <mcjerry> path to udev config?
[05:26] <sethk> mcjerry, it turned out the previous kernel was using the sata chipset in ide compatible mode, and the newer kernel was not.
[05:27] <Communist_FireFo> Hello all
[05:27] <anavim> the best thing about the prism cards is their range is 3x the airport extreme card  :D
[05:27] <ecobuntu> anavim: i know...that's why i am running breezy as my principal desktop...btw i've used sid for a while so i am use to bugs and crashes and being unable to start X
[05:27] <Communist_FireFo> I have a question to ask
[05:27] <mcjerry> sethk, i understand the logic of what you say, but am slow in relearning linux locations and such
[05:27] <sethk> mcjerry, it is also possible that this is simply a kernel bug, and you should just wait until it gets fixed.
[05:28] <anavim> ecobuntu: I can only take a certain amount of bleeding edge each year.. this year I've had my fill  :)
[05:28] <mcjerry> sethk, where do i check udev config
[05:28] <sethk> mcjerry, I have to check.  try man udev
[05:28] <ecobuntu> yeah i'm sure i'll get bored with borken stuff
[05:29] <ecobuntu> broken
[05:29] <anavim> ecobuntu, actually, I installed the 2.6.15 kernel yesterday and then reverted back to 2.6.12, and my networking doesn't start up on boot anymore
[05:30] <ecobuntu> i was helping someone earlier shrink their windows partition on their parents computer...i hope they didn't screw up ;)
[05:30] <CFF> The question I want to ask is this. I just got my Brezzy CD's on friday. But I turn on the computer - it does not bring up the boot prompt - but goes straight into the LILO loader of my current Linux Mandrake
[05:30] <CFF> I really want to install Ubuntu - what can I do?
[05:30] <ecobuntu> CFF: you have to press F12 maybe? or some function key
[05:30] <ecobuntu> CFF: how do you boot from a cd?  y
[05:30] <bur[n] er> CFF: make sure your BIOS is set to boot from CD
[05:30] <joeyb> Is there a gnome-panel config? I want autohide to hide 1px, or maybe 0... not the 5 or 6 is does now.
[05:31] <dabaR__> sudo aptitude install k3b
[05:31] <dabaR__> pah
[05:31] <CFF> bur[n] er: I did - I just use this old Award BIOS and it says - CDROM, A, C
[05:31] <CFF> And I use a older board
[05:32] <bur[n] er> CFF: well... that should be about it... did you download breezy or were they shipped?
[05:32] <CFF> bur[n] er: they were shipped
[05:33] <dabaR> funk.
[05:33] <bur[n] er> CFF: try to reboot again... or use a different cd rom drive?
[05:33] <CFF> hmm..
[05:33] <penguinitus> hello all..
[05:33] <joeyb> Is there a gnome-panel config? I want autohide to hide 1px, or maybe 0... not the 5 or 6 is does now.
[05:33] <CFF> bur[n] er: I only have this CD Burner
[05:34] <B_166-ER-X> why does ogle closes when trying to play some dvd's ? (originals)
[05:34] <penguinitus> just got a new amd64, I'm about to format the drive and get ubuntu up and going on it...just wondering if anyone can offer any info on what's to come
[05:34] <thespore> I'm trying to install 'transcode' and it failed.. tried 'apt-get -f install' and i get 'error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/blah.lib trying to overwrite /usr/lib/blah.so.0.0.0, which is also in libfame0'
[05:34] <ecobuntu> sweet there is suspend in dapper...i'm afraid to try it though ;)
[05:35] <bur[n] er> ecobuntu: it's there in breezy as well no?
[05:35] <dabaR__> ecobuntu: just do not use it for a stable system...
[05:35] <joeyb> Is there a gnome-panel config? I want autohide to hide 1px, or maybe 0... not the 5 or 6 is does now.
[05:35] <ecobuntu> no just hibernate
[05:35] <CFF> bur[n] er: And every time I reboot, the prompt just does not come up
[05:35] <bur[n] er> joeyb: nothing I know of... try playing in gconf-editor
[05:35] <ecobuntu> dabaR: yeah breezy is my main partition
[05:35] <joeyb> Thanks, I'll look
[05:35] <bur[n] er> CFF: sucky man... can you boot other cds?
[05:36] <ecobuntu> dabaR: definitely not a distro in development ;)
[05:36] <CFF> bur[n] er: No
[05:36] <bur[n] er> CFF: guess you're SOL
[05:36] <CFF> bur[n] er: SOL?
[05:36] <bur[n] er> CFF: unlucky
[05:36] <penguinitus> ...anybody else running ubuntu amd64 kernel?
[05:36] <dabaR__> straight out of luck
[05:36] <CFF> bur[n] er: hmm
[05:37] <joeyb> bur[n] er, hmm, nothing.
[05:37] <CFF> I am gathering up $170 so I have get the hardware to upgrade it
[05:37] <bur[n] er> joeyb: i'm guessing the answer is "no" then, you can't change the autohide without doing some serious gnome-panel hacking
[05:38] <joeyb> I found it.
[05:38] <joeyb> :D
[05:38] <joeyb> Apps > Panel > Panel Name > AutoHideSize
[05:38] <joeyb> Thanks. :)
[05:38] <CFF> bur[n] er: This has been happening ever since I installed Linux Mandrake Download version!
[05:38] <bur[n] er> joeyb: np :)  good work finding it
[05:38] <dabaR__> joeyb: thanks for sharing too.
[05:39] <bur[n] er> CFF: it made your cdrom not work?  I find that hard to believe
[05:39] <intelikey> do anybody know what might make a keyboard reset every x# seconds ?
[05:39] <bur[n] er> CFF: u sure the CD rom is plugged in correctly?  power and IDE?
[05:39] <CFF> bur[n] er: ye
[05:39] <intelikey> standard kb
[05:39] <CFF> bur[n] er: *yes
[05:40] <GTroy> how do I set mplayer as default?
[05:40] <CFF> bur[n] er: Plus - through some weirdness - it fuck up the cdrom order - it has the CD Burner as the cdrom and the CD-ROM drive as "cdrom1"
[05:40] <CFF> *fucke
[05:40] <CFF> *fucked
[05:40] <penguinitus> can I just install the regular 32bit iso even though I have 64bit amd?
[05:41] <Agrajag> yes
[05:41] <rabeldable> please verify this:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions
[05:41] <intelikey> CFF bur[n] er what symptoms ?
[05:41] <bur[n] er> CFF: tried both cd roms to boot from?
[05:41] <bur[n] er> intelikey: CFF can't boot the breezy install cd that was shipped out to him
[05:41] <bur[n] er> er... him or her
[05:41] <penguinitus> cool...I think I'll stick with 32 bit for now
[05:42] <CFF> bur[n] er: Him ;)
[05:42] <LotsaCabo> Can someone tell me why the repositories show "Blackdown" Java/JRE and not Sun?
[05:42] <intelikey> cff that would probably be bios settings.
[05:42] <Agrajag> LotsaCabo: because sun's jre isn't in the repositories.
[05:42] <Agrajag> It can't be redistributed that way.
[05:42] <LotsaCabo> Agrajag, nice answer.  ;-)
[05:42] <Agrajag> You can make your own java package easily.
[05:42] <Agrajag> !java
[05:42] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:43] <CFF> intelikey: I checked the BIOS settings and clearly it is set to CDROM, A, C
[05:43] <LotsaCabo> Agrajag, any major differences between Sun and Blackdown?
[05:43] <Agrajag> Sun's a bit better compatibility-wise I guess
[05:43] <GTroy> !mplayer
[05:43] <ubotu> from memory, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[05:43] <intelikey> CFF does the bios say booting cdrom    or cdrom boot failed  or something ?
[05:43] <CFF> intelikey: cdrom
[05:44] <bur[n] er> CFF: try the other cd rom drive
[05:44] <CFF> bur[n] er: But that is the burner
[05:44] <intelikey> so
[05:45] <CFF> bur[n] er: hmm
[05:45] <thespore> anyone know why I am getting errors installing 'transcode' with apt-get?  Says error was encountered processing libfame-0.9_0.9.0-0.1_i386.deb
[05:46] <bur[n] er> thespore: because that file is in two packages... you can do a --force-overwrite
[05:46] <LotsaCabo> ubotu, what is "!javadebs" ?
[05:46] <intelikey> thespore sudo apt-get clear(or clean or what ever it is)    and try again ?
[05:46] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, LotsaCabo
[05:46] <CFF> allow me to try - I will be back if anything happens
[05:46] <mustard5> LotsaCabo, just type !javadebs
[05:46] <intelikey> CFF take notes on errors
[05:47] <CFF> intelikey: allright
[05:47] <LotsaCabo> mustard5, within the IRC client or Ubuntu?  I'm new to both and have never seen anything begin with a bang.
[05:47] <thespore> bur[n] er.. what is the syntax for using that switch?
[05:48] <mustard5> LotsaCabo, in irc..  you can also pm ubotu using /msg ubotu javadebs
[05:48] <bur[n] er> thespore: dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/apt/archives/blah.deb
[05:48] <LotsaCabo> !javadebs
[05:48] <ubotu> rumour has it, javadebs is at Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[05:48] <LotsaCabo> Okay, I feel like a dumbass.
[05:48] <mustard5> LotsaCabo, use the private message function if you can
[05:49] <mustard5> ubout: tell LotsaCabo about msgthebot
[05:49] <intelikey> my keyboard is still resetting periodicly,   any idea what might cause ?
[05:49] <mustard5> ubotu: tell LotsaCabo about msgthebot
[05:49] <thespore> bur[n] er, thanks.. worked!
[05:49] <bur[n] er> thespore: yer welcome
[05:50] <LotsaCabo> Hmm... so "!javadebs" is a bot?
[05:50] <bur[n] er> LotsaCabo: ubotu is a bot
[05:50] <intelikey> LotsaCabo no ! is a bot call ubotu is the bot
[05:50] <theconartist> what should i use to install local .deb's?
[05:51] <LotsaCabo> But, was I not just chatting with "ubotu?"
[05:51] <intelikey> dpkg -i
[05:51] <Xenguy> theconartist: dpkg -i
[05:51] <bur[n] er> theconartist: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[05:52] <mustard5> LotsaCabo, he sort of talks to you yes :)
[05:52] <intelikey> LotsaCabo if you were you probably really feel silly now.....
[05:52] <LotsaCabo> Oh, so the message I saw to me (ie. "from memory..." was an automated message.  Interesting.
[05:52] <LotsaCabo> Man, I'm such a noob.
[05:52] <anavim> LotsaCabo, it happens on here every day
[05:53] <anavim> LotsaCabo, ubotu just has a nice database
[05:53] <LotsaCabo> I have obviously spent too much time on M$.
[05:53] <intelikey> lol
[05:53] <Xenguy> LotsaCabo: a bit different yes
[05:53] <Xenguy> linux I mean
[05:54] <intelikey>                      >>>--------------|>    (0)
[05:54] <GigaClon> is there a way for ubuntu to blank my LCD panel on my laptop when i close the the lid?
[05:54] <benplaut> *click*
[05:54] <Xenguy> bullseye
[05:55] <LotsaCabo> GigaClon, that does not happen by default?
[05:55] <GigaClon> no
[05:55] <LotsaCabo> GigaClon, well, I was just talking to a bot, so I'm the last guy that you'd want to talk to about that.  I just found it interesting.
[05:56] <LotsaCabo> I think next, I'm gonna go chat with my TV.
[05:56] <intelikey> hmmm on mine there is a little presure switch that turns the light off when the lid closes....
[05:56] <LotsaCabo> I tried the DVD player, but he had an attitude problem.
[05:57] <intelikey> :)
[05:57] <Azul_Tejano> I am trying to install the SDL 1.2.4 package, and when I run ./configure, it says "cannot find SDL 1.2.4" which makes NO sense because that's what I'm trying to install.
[05:57] <intelikey> micro-waves are not much on conversation either, but they heat up awefull fast.
[05:57] <mustard5> Azul_Tejano, are you in the correct working directory?
[05:58] <Azul_Tejano> I believe so, I cd'ed to the right one..
[05:58] <mustard5> Azul_Tejano, spelt the name wrong?
[05:58] <intelikey> pwd
[05:59] <LotsaCabo> intelikey: =)
[06:00] <intelikey> LotsaCabo we've all done that....    but it is a lessen you don't soon forget.
[06:00] <xadux> I wanna know how can I close a window conversation in the irc from in the shell
[06:00] <Azul_Tejano> I don't thinks so.. I am
[06:00] <rabeldable> !perms
[06:00] <ubotu> rabeldable: Are you smoking crack?
[06:00] <intelikey>  /part #blah
[06:01] <intelikey> xadux ^
[06:01] <Azul_Tejano> It says "The sdl-config script installed by SDL could not be found
[06:01] <Azul_Tejano> *** If SDL was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
[06:01] <Azul_Tejano> *** your path, or set the SDL_CONFIG environment variable to the
[06:01] <Azul_Tejano> *** full path to sdl-config.
[06:01] <Azul_Tejano> configure: error: *** SDL version 1.2.4 not found!"
[06:01] <anavim> Azul_Tejano, please don't paste in here
[06:01] <Azul_Tejano> Ok, sorry. I am not sure how set environment variables..
[06:02] <intelikey> Azul_Tejano maybe 'export PREFIX="$PATH:./" '    and try again
[06:02] <rabeldable> ubotu perms is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions
[06:02] <ubotu> okay, rabeldable
[06:02] <devint> is it just me who thinks that ubuntu should ditch i386 and at least take on i586?
[06:03] <Azul_Tejano> I'll try it.
[06:03] <rabeldable> !perms
[06:03] <ubotu> I heard perms is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions
[06:03] <devint> it already can't run on i386 or i486 machines
[06:03] <devint> why keep compiling for them
[06:03] <dabaR> cafuego: ping
[06:03] <anavim> oh ###! what happened to ubotu
[06:03] <anavim> !listvalues environment
[06:03] <dabaR> I killed him, sorry.
[06:03] <dabaR> not on purpose.
[06:03] <anavim> how?
[06:03] <dabaR> anavim: he is fixed not.
[06:04] <intelikey> devint it can on 80486 so i386 is usable      err sort of
[06:04] <dabaR>  mean, now.
[06:04] <anavim> exceeded allowed forked processes count  :)
[06:04] <PokerFacePenguin> Marked Away
[06:05] <anavim> Azul_Tejano, read an article on changing your environment variables from the internet.  it will do you a world of good  :)
[06:05] <Azul_Tejano> Ok, do I just type that in to the terminal and enter?
[06:05] <dabaR> Azul_Tejano: if it dont work, ask me again.
[06:05] <nicholaspaul> I'm looking for a hint :) anyone use a nice little gui for encrypting files?
[06:05] <intelikey> devint besides why not just make 64bit  everyone is going to have to go to that anyway ?
[06:06] <nicholaspaul> on OSX i use 'krypt'...
[06:06] <Azul_Tejano> Ok I will do a search. ;)
[06:06] <dabaR> Azul_Tejano: you will likely need to install libsdl1.2-dev, however.
[06:07] <ULffuntu> zzugg
[06:07] <TiMiDo> hey can someone tell me how can i unsubcribe to the ubuntu list?
[06:07] <TiMiDo> on the mail?
[06:07] <Azul_Tejano> dabaR, I will  check that out..
[06:07] <dabaR> send unsubscribe in the message body is a common practice
[06:07] <Cole> devint: if you want your system ultra optimized.. just run Gentoo.. takes alot of work. but then it will be as fast as your machine can make it..
[06:08] <intelikey> is there not an unsubscribe url in the mails ?
[06:08] <nicholaspaul> TiMiDo, if all else fails, just block the address in your client filters
[06:08] <devint> Cole: I don't worry about ultra optimization, it's just that i386 is way outdated
[06:08] <rabeldable> dabR: can you change the perms factoid in ubotu?
[06:08] <theconartist> does anyone know how do get autoscrolling in epiphany?
[06:08] <devint> i686 will be around for quite awhile longer
[06:08] <ULffuntu> $$$
[06:09] <xadux> intelikey, thanks man, but when I want close the window of the specific user how can I do?
[06:09] <intelikey> devint i could not run i686 here.
[06:09] <Cole> devint: i would not go past i586 as i have a couple old dual penitum boxes i used as a file server.. and i know one of my friends has i 386 set up as a router
[06:09] <elizabeth> does anyone here run aMSN?
[06:09] <xadux> yes
[06:09] <xadux> me
[06:09] <mustard5> devint, I believe the 386 kernel in ubuntu is actuality something like a 586 kernel
[06:09] <elizabeth> how come it keeps opening conversation windows with random people?
[06:10] <mustard5> devint, thats what I read in the ubuntuforums anyway
[06:10] <nicholaspaul> elizabeth, youre prob.getting robots
[06:10] <Azul_Tejano> hmm, can't find libsdl1.2-dev in Synaptic or Google. Have a url?
[06:10] <elizabeth> nicholaspaul, what?
[06:10] <Cole> devint: there are still uses for old machines.. why spend money on a new machine to be a gateway for a network.. or a simple proxy server or a DMZ which only has SSH open?
[06:10] <rabeldable> dabaR: can you edit the perms factoid in ubotu?
[06:10] <nicholaspaul> elizabeth, it sounds like robots .
[06:10] <elizabeth> nicholaspaul, that would be extremely useful if i knew what it means if i'm getting robots.
[06:10] <anavim> rabeldable, you would say "ubotu, perms is <reply>perms is blah
[06:11] <intelikey> xadux idk   i don't use irssi.    try   /help    see if it has online help.    also   'man irssi '   might tell you.      bx here :)
[06:11] <nicholaspaul> elizabeth, i was assuming youd know what robots are. They are automated users.
[06:11] <rabeldable> !perms
[06:11] <ubotu> rumour has it, perms is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions
[06:11] <anavim> elizabeth, bots are automated programs
[06:11] <dabaR> xadux: ps -u <username>; kill -9 <processNumber>. The process number will be shown as output of ps -u <userName>
[06:11] <rabeldable> I did that but thats all I can put there...
[06:11] <nicholaspaul> elizabeth,  i try to be extremely useful without insulting anyones intelligence .
[06:11] <dabaR> xadux: are you asking in irssi?
[06:11] <elizabeth> nicholaspaul: ok, so how would that work? it is opening windows with people i know, and they're not robots.
[06:11] <anavim> rabeldable, what do you want it to say?
[06:11] <dabaR> elizabeth: use gaim.
[06:12] <anavim> elizabeth, then it's just buggy
[06:12] <elizabeth> dabaR: no. D:<
[06:12] <nicholaspaul> elizabeth, my guess is crap software. Or a bug
[06:12] <elizabeth> ech.
[06:12] <intelikey> anavim it should also have  'man chmod '   in that help node
[06:12] <nicholaspaul> elizabeth, which client are you using? Not all clients are created equal.
[06:12] <rabeldable> anavim: Permissions are explained here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#changefilesfolderspermissions      The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename
[06:12] <Azul_Tejano> Wow, Horatio from SNL!!!
[06:12] <rabeldable> oops
[06:12] <rabeldable> scratch that
[06:13] <xadux> dabaR, about how close a specific window in irssi
[06:13] <HoratioSanz> half eaten in a tercel
[06:13] <Azul_Tejano> But Horatio's not in minnesota..
[06:13] <dabaR> xadux: go into it, and type: /win c
[06:13] <HoratioSanz> taco*
[06:13] <rabeldable> anavim: Permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions     The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename
[06:13] <elizabeth> nicholaspaul, aMSN
[06:13] <intelikey> rabeldable no    man chmod      ?
[06:14] <dabaR> night
[06:14] <rabeldable> anavim: Permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions     The easiest way to work with permissions is to chmod {options} filename, for more info: man chmod
[06:14] <HoratioSanz> genuine looney tunes jacket
[06:14] <Azul_Tejano> good night. Thanks for your help! :)
[06:14] <rabeldable> there
[06:14] <intelikey> rabeldable you'll have newbees 777 / -R    hehhe
[06:14] <Cole> intelikey: lol
[06:14] <nicholaspaul> elizabeth, hmmm. Its worth trying others . Everyone's mileage varies.
[06:15] <intelikey> yes   :)
[06:15] <xadux> dabaR, hey men thankz thats the way :)
[06:15] <Azul_Tejano> horatio? genuine looney tunes jacket?
[06:15] <Cole> elizabeth: in my experience GAIM works very well for MSN
[06:15] <rabeldable> i just wrote this doc at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions
[06:15] <elizabeth> cole: the only problem is, you cant change display names :/
[06:15] <nicholaspaul> Anyone here use an encryption program with a giu?
[06:15] <nicholaspaul> or gui?
[06:15] <Cole> elizabeth: your own display name?
[06:16] <HoratioSanz> member's only jacket
[06:16] <anavim> !perms
[06:16] <ubotu> Permissions are explained here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#changefilesfolderspermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from CLI
[06:16] <elizabeth> cole yeah
[06:16] <HoratioSanz> man woman
[06:16] <rabeldable> cool
[06:16] <Azul_Tejano> ? member's only jacket? Sounds like a spam-bot
[06:16] <intelikey> HoratioSanz no help page found for woman
[06:17] <Cole> elizabeth: did you try setting the alias line? in the account options in GAIM?
[06:17] <nicholaspaul> lol intelikey
[06:17] <rabeldable> I don't know if having sudo as the example since it could cause problems, however, I notice lots of people problems are needing to change permissions of files that they do not own.
[06:17] <Azul_Tejano> Lol. That would be nice.
[06:17] <elizabeth> cole, yes. my display name is still somethin gabout badgers, even though my alias is "elizabeth"
[06:17] <Azul_Tejano> badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom SNakE!
[06:17] <rabeldable> anavim: Can you change the URL to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions
[06:18] <elizabeth> azul_tejano, actually, yeah, something like that.
[06:18] <rabeldable> !ubuntuguide
[06:18] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[06:18] <anavim> rabeldable, uh, ok
[06:18] <rabeldable> thx
[06:19] <nicholaspaul> purple did what to angel??!?!!?!
[06:19] <Cole> elizabeth: got a solution for you.. log into GAIM and then "set friendly name"
[06:20] <Cole> elizabeth: try that and let me knwo if it works
[06:20] <purplefeltangel> cole: thx :D
[06:20] <Cole> elizabeth: the set friendly name is in the tols menu
[06:20] <purplefeltangel> ok
[06:20] <Cole> elizabeth: tools- account actions- set friendly name
[06:20] <Cole> elizabeth: i'm horrible at directions lol
[06:21] <intelikey> so there have been some fixes to breezy   yes?       and if i contact shipit  do they still use the origenal iso's ?
[06:21] <intelikey> cole  elizabeth is now known as purplefeltangel
[06:21] <purplefeltangel> cole, thanks :D
[06:21] <Cole> purplefeltangel: np it works i take it?
[06:21] <purplefeltangel> yup
[06:22] <GTroy> hey guys how do you set mplayer as the default?
[06:24] <Iam8up> i'm having problems with X windows; reading through the X-wiki it suggests using X -configure; to do this i need root permissions and i can't become su w/o the root password....
[06:24] <Azul_Tejano> preferences, default applications, Gtroy
[06:24] <rabeldable> Iam8up: sudo bash
[06:24] <Azul_Tejano> system preferences rather
[06:24] <GTroy> Azul_Tejano: many thanks
[06:25] <Iam8up> hah...thanks...
[06:25] <mustard5> Iam8up, you on gnome?
[06:25] <Iam8up> mustard5 - i don't have x windows working, so..no
[06:25] <mustard5> Iam8up, there is a sudo command to reconfigure xorg
[06:25] <rabeldable> anavim: is it changed?
[06:25] <Iam8up> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[06:25] <anavim> rabeldable, yes
[06:25] <mustard5> Iam8up, yeah
[06:25] <rabeldable> !perms
[06:25] <ubotu> Permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from CLI
[06:25] <Iam8up> didn't help...
[06:26] <mustard5> Iam8up, k
[06:26] <anavim> rabeldable, try /msg ubotu perms or whatever else
[06:26] <Azul_Tejano> Wait, I think I was incorrect about that one Gtroy
[06:26] <mustard5> Iam8up, whats it doing out of curiosity?
[06:26] <Iam8up> mustard5 - upon booting it complains about X having problems - the actualy error message is:
[06:26] <jdmpike> is there an openoffice channel?
[06:26] <jdmpike> I need some openoffice.org help
[06:26] <Iam8up> (EE) No devices detected.
[06:27] <Iam8up> then i headed over to the x windows faq
[06:27] <rabeldable> anavim: thanks
[06:27] <jdmpike> I need to import a .pot Powerpoint Template into Impress
[06:27] <jdmpike> anyone know how to do that?
[06:27] <mustard5> Iam8up, ah ok...thanks
[06:27] <etzerd> hello all
[06:27] <etzerd> ?
[06:27] <Iam8up> the faq told me to: X -configure
[06:27] <etzerd> what is the command to install KDe
[06:28] <benplaut> are the repos down?
[06:28] <mustard5> Iam8up,  there is another command you can use
[06:28] <Xenguy> !kde
[06:28] <ubotu> I heard kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[06:28] <mustard5> Iam8up, its in the first few lines of your xorg.conf
[06:28] <Iam8up> can you tell me what that is?
[06:28] <mustard5> Iam8up, I think it does autodetect again
[06:28] <Xenguy> misfit_toy: which desktop? :p
[06:28] <mustard5> Iam8up, I'll look for it one sec
[06:28] <misfit_toy> Xenguy, any
[06:28] <jdmpike> !gnome
[06:28] <ubotu> I guess gnome is an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users. see http://gnome.org for details.
[06:29] <Xenguy> misfit_toy: so you've tried them all
[06:29] <jdmpike> !Openoffice.org
[06:29] <ubotu> jdmpike: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:29] <misfit_toy> Xenguy, pretty much
[06:29] <Iam8up> mustard5 - i'm in that conf file, can you tell me what i should be looking for?
[06:29] <mustard5> Iam8up, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:29] <Xenguy> really
[06:29] <Iam8up> oh..that's nice =)
[06:29] <mustard5> Iam8up, its in the comments at the top of the xorg.conf
[06:29] <Xenguy> misfit_toy: and it sux -- why?
[06:29] <intelikey> misfit_toy cause linux' stringth is in the cli ?
[06:29] <mustard5> Iam8up, thats about the limit of my understanding of configuring xorg.conf ;)
[06:30] <Iam8up> all right..thanks a bunch...
[06:30] <Xenguy> intelikey: the cli is great, but linux is plenty GUI now
[06:30] <rabeldable> Iam8up: What kind of hardware do you have?
[06:30] <misfit_toy> Xenguy, I have no problem with this stuff, I love it, I'm commenting on the questions here...
[06:30] <ggon_> #join dia-x
[06:30] <Iam8up> now..i hit that command, select 'nv' drivers (as i'm using a fx 5200 pci) and then it tells me 'xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2005.11.200029'
[06:30] <misfit_toy> intelikey, ^^
[06:31] <Iam8up> rabeldable - x86
[06:31] <Xenguy> misfit_toy: hrm, sorry, I just thought you didn't like the linux desktop, and I wondered why in particular
[06:31] <mustard5> Iam8up, its backuped up your xorg.conf
[06:31] <intelikey> Xenguy does that mean the cli is "declining" ?
[06:31] <mustard5> Iam8up, excuse that poorly worded sentence :)
[06:31] <Iam8up> mustard5 - but now i'm back at the prompt =/
[06:31] <misfit_toy> as long as people have to come here and ask the absurd questions they have to ask, then god help linux....and don't get me wrong...my whole house is open source
[06:31] <mustard5> Iam8up, I would try starting up gnome
[06:32] <Iam8up> mustard5 - but i can't...
[06:32] <mustard5> Iam8up, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[06:32] <Xenguy> intelikey: not at all - it's super powerful and people who get really into *nix learn the command line cos it is valuable to do so
[06:32] <mustard5> Iam8up, ah ok
[06:32] <anavim> misfit_toy, most of the problems I see on here relate to people needing to install their favorite software, which was left out due to patents, non-free issues, etc.
[06:32] <rabeldable> misfit_toy: at least they can come here to ask.....
[06:32] <Iam8up> i can't get into gnome, that's the whole point of me being in here atm =(
[06:32] <misfit_toy> anatole, rabeldable true enough
[06:32] <anavim> misfit_toy, then the usual bugs which they need walking through
[06:32] <Cole> who needed the openoffice template help?
[06:32] <mustard5> Iam8up, I'm just assuming that haveing reconfigured you might be able to now
[06:33] <intelikey> k Xenguy looks like we are on the same page of music....
[06:33] <mustard5> Iam8up, soz :)
[06:33] <anavim> misfit_toy, then there's the learning-how-to-use-unix questions  :)
[06:33] <surfdue_> Or, if you want to disable credential caching permanently, you can edit your runtime config file (located next to the auth/ directory). Simply set store-auth-creds to no, and no credentials will be cached on disk, ever. << where is this config file located in the program subversion on ubuntu?
[06:33] <misfit_toy> anavim, of course
[06:33] <Cole> jdmpike: hey you still need help with that template?
[06:33] <Iam8up> mustard5 - i went through this setup once before, it didn't fix my problem
[06:34] <DaBass> i need help with netinstall is there anyone
[06:34] <mustard5> Iam8up, k..well you have a backup of your xorg.conf if you want to restore it
[06:34] <Iam8up> yay...multiple copies of broken configs =(
[06:34] <misfit_toy> bbl
[06:34] <Toran> hey guys, how can i redetect my graphics card with ubuntu?
[06:34] <mustard5> Iam8up, :)
[06:34] <Iam8up> Toran - i can tell you that...
[06:34] <Xenguy> misfit_toy: don't forget your tinfoil hat :-)
[06:34] <Toran> Iam8up: .. :D
[06:35] <Iam8up> Toran - sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:35] <misfit_toy> Xenguy, got it on!
[06:35] <Iam8up> hope you have more luck then i do...
[06:35] <Toran> Iam8up: thanks
[06:35] <Xenguy> a
[06:35] <misfit_toy> 49 people in #windows
[06:35] <misfit_toy> hmm
[06:36] <misfit_toy> I apparently OWN #xp
[06:36] <misfit_toy> cool
[06:36] <ecobuntu> really?
[06:36] <ecobuntu> i have a picture of a drake on my dapper desktop
[06:36] <anavim> misfit_toy, you know unix questions, like chmod, chown, $PATH, bash, etc.
[06:36] <ecobuntu> drake being duck not dragon
[06:37] <dylan_> ecobuntu, how is Dapper thus far?  what changes have been made?
[06:37] <misfit_toy> anavim, yes, why?
[06:37] <ecobuntu> dylan_: not a very many...it's hardly noticeable
[06:37] <misfit_toy> ecobuntu, there's a logo already? dammit! where?
[06:37] <dylan_> ecobuntu, is it any more stable?
[06:37] <ecobuntu> dylan_: suspend, a systems monitor application
[06:37] <ecobuntu> dylan_: more than breezy?  definitely not
[06:37] <anavim> misfit_toy, you said you wondered why there would be unix questions, I'm just clarifying what I mean when I say unix
[06:38] <ecobuntu> misfit_toy: there's no logo yet
[06:38] <misfit_toy> anavim, understood
[06:38] <misfit_toy> ecobuntu, dammit!
[06:38] <ecobuntu> it's still brown
[06:38] <Iam8up> quick question..what's the release name for 5.10?
[06:38] <misfit_toy> LMAO
[06:38] <misfit_toy> no more freaking brown
[06:38] <misfit_toy> god
[06:38] <mahangu_> Iam8up, Breezy Badger
[06:38] <Iam8up> wasn't it like..breezy bear..?
[06:38] <Iam8up> ahh there you go, thanks a bunch
[06:39] <mahangu_> Iam8up,np
[06:39] <Pablo_C> breezy beer
[06:39] <misfit_toy> a drake is a DUCK, and thus the color should change to more blackish and such
[06:39] <dylan_> ecobuntu, so why make dapper in the first place lol?
[06:39] <Sonny_Wertzik> can anyone here answer a question about xcompmgr.?
[06:39] <ecobuntu> dylan_: hmm?  it will be more stable than breezy..it's in development
[06:40] <Cole> hey guys if the guy comes back asking how to use a .pot (ms template) in open office.. here are the instructions.. open up any of the openoffice apps. click file  - new - templates and documents..then click organize. then click on my templates. click "commands" then "import template" .. a new window will pop up and browse to the location of the template and chagne the "files or type" to "all files" then select the template and click ope
[06:41] <delltony> question i have a website running on one of my boxes i want to ssh into it and do a backup of it and store that backup on this box how would i go about doiong that please if anyone would like to help that would be great
[06:41] <mahangu_> delltony, ssh in
[06:41] <rob_p> delltony:  I'd use scp.
[06:41] <mahangu_> tar or cp the files
[06:41] <mahangu_> yeah
[06:41] <mahangu_> or what rob_p said
[06:41] <ecobuntu> for java packages: !javadebs
[06:41] <ecobuntu> !javadebs
[06:41] <ubotu> somebody said javadebs was at Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[06:41] <intelikey> cole write a wiki  and link ubotu to it.
[06:42] <delltony> well scp i kinda understand but how would i get it to tarball on myside with a | ?
[06:42] <Cole> kk
[06:42] <Sonny_Wertzik> has anyone here heard of xcompmgr.?
[06:42] <mahangu_> delltony, if you can get in to shell on the server
[06:42] <mahangu_> why dont you get in there
[06:42] <mahangu_> and tar it
[06:42] <mahangu_> then scp it out
[06:42] <delltony> thats what i wanted to do then send it to myself the server is at a datacenter
[06:42] <benplaut> folks... i've got a big problem
[06:42] <rob_p> delltony:  Write a small script that makes a tar.gz of the dir(s) you want backed up and automatically scp's the tar.gz to your machine.  Add it to a crontab entry for a truly automated backup solution!
[06:43] <benplaut> themes install jst fine, but the theme never changes
[06:43] <benplaut> it's stuck on indubstrial
[06:43] <delltony> rob thats what i'm trying to do but i don't know how
[06:43] <delltony> :(
[06:43] <anavim> rob_p, but that's too easy!  :)
[06:43] <mahangu_> delltony, im sure there are several perl / bash scripts that are already written for the job
[06:43] <anavim> delltony, there's articles on the 'net for each of those tasks
[06:44] <rob_p> delltony:  I'd say read up on how to use scp, then open a few bash scripts and poke around.  Before long, you'll be scripting your way to bliss!
[06:44] <intelikey> benplaut that is a major problem, theeme wont change......    ;/
[06:45] <rob_p> anavim:  That's what I like about Linux.  Everything is just TOO EASY! :-)
[06:45] <benplaut> intelikey: well...
[06:45] <toblerp> i'm using gaim and jabber over ssl and i discovered that you can't use tls... it only works with "force old ssl"
[06:45] <benplaut> nm, fixed
[06:45] <toblerp> does somebody know my problem?
[06:46] <toblerp> libgnutls-* is all installed
[06:46] <ecobuntu> ] \
[06:49] <rabeldable> !perms
[06:49] <ubotu> well, perms is Permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from the console.
[06:49] <anavim> rabeldable, you need to use <reply> so that ubotu doesn't add it's funny phrases to the start of the sentence
[06:50] <rabeldable> somebody else changed it.... in the ubuntu-offtopic channel
[06:50] <rabeldable> let me try to change it....
[06:50] <anavim> ah, I will update it then
[06:51] <rabeldable> ubotu perms is <reply>Permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from the console.
[06:51] <ubotu> ...but perms is already something else...
[06:51] <anavim> updated
[06:51] <rabeldable> !perms
[06:51] <ubotu> Permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from the console.
[06:51] <rabeldable> ok
[06:51] <anavim> rabeldable, like this
[06:51] <anavim> !test is <reply>Test is a test
[06:51] <ubotu> ...but test is already something else...
[06:52] <anavim> !foo is foo
[06:52] <ubotu> okay, anavim
[06:52] <LotsaCabo> Okay, this is odd.  I cannot login using the "su" command, but I am 100000% confident that the password is correct.  What's up?
[06:52] <anavim> !no, foo is <reply>foo is bar
[06:52] <anavim> huh
[06:52] <mustard5> LotsaCabo, do you have a root password?
[06:52] <intelikey> !foo
[06:52] <ubotu> [foo]  foo
[06:52] <anavim> weird
[06:52] <mustermann> !bluetooth
[06:52] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, mustermann
[06:52] <LotsaCabo> mustard5, I do.
[06:52] <anavim> !foo is <reply>foo is bar
[06:52] <ubotu> ...but foo is already something else...
[06:53] <anavim> !no, foo is <reply>foo is bar
[06:53] <anavim> !forget foo
[06:53] <ubotu> anavim: i forgot foo
[06:53] <mustard5> LotsaCabo, you can get a root login using sudo -s or sudo -i and user password
[06:53] <jack-> sudo su -
[06:53] <jack-> works as well
[06:53] <Cole> intelikey: i made a wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MSTemplatesInOpenOffice now what should i do
[06:53] <mustard5> LotsaCabo, sudo -s is the most commonly used I think
[06:53] <mustermann> hi guys.  i'd like to get a usb bluetooth dongle running.  how can i check to see if it's being recognized?
[06:53] <jack-> sudo -s will give you a timed rootshell
[06:53] <LotsaCabo> Hmm... so, what is "su" in Ununtu?
[06:53] <jack-> !su
[06:53] <ubotu> jack-: Are you on ritalin?
[06:54] <mustard5> LotsaCabo, its the wrong way in ubuntu :)
[06:54] <anavim> LotsaCabo, su is switch user just like everywhere else, but root is disabled
[06:54] <mustermann> substitute user.  can be any user, not just root.
[06:54] <anavim> !tell LotsaCabo about rootsudo
[06:54] <LotsaCabo> Aaaah.
[06:54] <intelikey> !oo.templates is <reply>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MSTemplatesInOpenOffice
[06:54] <ubotu> intelikey: okay
[06:54] <mustard5> LotsaCabo, ubotu will explain in PM
[06:55] <jack-> mm how did i enable my root again :) lol
[06:55] <intelikey> !oo.templates
[06:55] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MSTemplatesInOpenOffice
[06:55] <jack-> sudo passwd something, i think
[06:55] <jack-> not sure
[06:55] <mustard5> jack-, sudo passwd root
[06:55] <jack-> yeah
[06:55] <jack-> guessed it
[06:55] <Cole> intelikey: h tahts cool
[06:56] <intelikey> sudo passwd      and when it asks first give your user passwd then it will ask for the 'new root password'
[06:56] <intelikey> jack ^
[06:56] <jack-> i know, thx
[06:57] <j1> hello
[06:57] <j1> anyone here
[06:57] <intelikey> j1
[06:57] <j1> hey
[06:57] <j1> where are you?
[06:57] <anavim> j1, this is #ubuntu channel
[06:57] <j1> oh ok
[06:57] <j1> i got it
[06:57] <intelikey> ubotu whois j1 ?
[06:57] <ubotu> intelikey: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:57] <zorba64> j1: we are everywhere
[06:58] <mustermann> what's the name of the boot-up log file?
[06:58] <j1> i am on ubutu
[06:58] <intelikey> mustermann 'dmsg '
[06:58] <j1> dmesg
[06:58] <anavim> intelikey, ubotu is not nickserv
[06:58] <mustermann> thanky
[06:58] <Cole> Jack Smelleisnet
[06:58] <j1> how did you know my name>
[06:58] <j1> whoa
[06:58] <rabeldable> j2 j3 j4 j5 j6 j7 j8 j9 j0
[06:58] <Cole> ;-)
[06:59] <j1> what??  oh my
[06:59] <j1> that is my locker combination
[06:59] <Cole> he asked
[06:59] <j1> wow
[06:59] <j1> they called by grampa smelly
[06:59] <anavim> j1, he knows your name because he typed "/whois j1"
[07:00] <Cole> oh yeah that 2
[07:00] <rabeldable> j1: can you take your offtopic convo to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[07:00] <j1> |whois elvis
[07:00] <j1> i need help
[07:01] <rabeldable> so do I
[07:01] <j1> ok, sorry. i'll gt back on topic
[07:02] <Cole> rabeldable: what did you need?
[07:02] <j1> gotta learn how to decrypt DVDs in Ubuntu (Hairy Beaver)
[07:03] <rabeldable> 1 million dollars...
[07:03] <rabeldable> !libdvdcss2
[07:03] <ubotu> [libdvdcss2]  to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"
[07:03] <intelikey>  (Hairy Beaver)  ?      hehhe
[07:04] <j1> i meant to say breezy badger, sorry
[07:04] <notyoda> Hey does the newest livecd have ethereal on it?
[07:04] <j1> i couldn't get libdvdcss from any of the repositories
[07:04] <notyoda> or is there a site where I could find out what packages are containted on the livecd?
[07:05] <lampshade> this room is quiet
[07:05] <j1> anyone else? where do i get libdvdread?
[07:06] <chanchal> I installed all packages for Hindi in Ubuntu-5.10 including IIIMF and /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/dev But I am unable to have Hindi Keyboard Layout option in Keyboard Preferences -> Layout -> Add /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/dev was not existing in Ubuntu-5.10 partition and I copied this file from my Fedora Core 3 partition where this feature was available. Whats wrong???
[07:06] <intelikey> lampshade maybe msg ubotu info ethereal   ?
[07:06] <lampshade> msg ubotu info ethereal
[07:06] <j1> loud loud
[07:06] <j1> loud
[07:06] <lampshade> yar
[07:06] <j1> shouts
[07:06] <j1> yip yap yow
[07:07] <intelikey> prepend /
[07:07] <lampshade> intelikey: Yeah, that didn't really tell me about the livecd...  it did say it was in the repos though
[07:07] <mustermann> huh.  my dmesg log file begins with the wrong date and time, but the timestamp on the file is right.  is that normal?
[07:08] <rabeldable> mustermann: thats probably because ntp updated your clock after your system booted... check your hardware time at the bios
[07:08] <intelikey> lampshade it says it is in universe/net  so it probably isn't on the cd...
[07:09] <lampshade> thanks
[07:09] <thechitowncubs> what can I do to make GTK1 apps look not SO ugly? How can i change the font size and theme to make it look a little more presentable?
[07:10] <rabeldable> thechitowncubs: /join #gtk+ or #Gtk
[07:10] <mustermann> i see several bluetooth entries, and the dongle lights up, but the gnome bluetooth device manager scan doesn't find my bt mouse.  any command line tools or other ways to verify?
[07:11] <mustermann> ultimately, i'd like to get the mouse and dial-up working.
[07:12] <rabeldable> mustermann: don't know about bluetooth
[07:14] <anavim> mustermann, what does "lsmod | grep bluetooth" give you?
[07:15] <mustermann> bluetooth              43012  9 rfcomm,l2cap,hci_usb
[07:16] <anavim> mustermann, so that looks ok
[07:16] <mustermann> so you think its being recognized and driver's+daemons are being loaded.
[07:17] <cornflake> is it safe to do apt-get dist-upgrade w/out backing up first?
[07:17] <chanchal> I think my query about keyboard layouts was not in presentable length
[07:17] <anavim> mustermann, and what about:   hciconfig hci0
[07:17] <deFrysk> cornflake, backing up is always wiser
[07:17] <cornflake> deFrysk, hehe
[07:17] <thrice`> cornflake, well, backing up is always a good idea...but, it should be safe if you're going major release to major release
[07:17] <cornflake> Dist: Debian GNU/Linux testing/unstable | Uname: Linux 2.6.12-9-686 | CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.93GHz @ 2.93GHz - 5816.32 bogomips | Memory: (Used/Total) 492MB/496MB | Videocard: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) | Resolution: 800x600 (bpp: 24) | Uptime: 7 days 2 hrs 54 mins 36 secs | eth0: IN: 229.9 MiB OUT: 40.0 MiB
[07:18] <mustermann> hci0:   Type: USB
[07:18] <Amaranth> cornflake: Please don't do that again.
[07:18] <mustermann> UP RUNNING PSCAN ISCAN
[07:18] <cornflake> Amaranth, aye aye, sir!
[07:18] <mustermann> and some addres, sending, receiving info
[07:18] <deFrysk> cornflake, make sure your not the pebkac if you decide not to back up
[07:18] <mustermann> RX bytes:1659 acl:5 sco:0 events:70 errors:0
[07:19] <anavim> mustermann, it says it's up and running, or not
[07:19] <cornflake> umm... wut's a pebkac?
[07:19] <mustermann> TX bytes:637 acl:5 sco:0 commands:38 errors:0
[07:19] <mustermann> running
[07:19] <deFrysk> cornflake, google for it
[07:19] <deFrysk> cornflake, and if you never heard of it, better back up ;)
[07:20] <Cole> defrysk: or it might be an I.D. Ten T Error
[07:20] <anavim> mustermann, and you installed gnome-bluetooth and ran it?
[07:20] <intelikey> ubotu pebkac is the Problem Exists Between the Keyboard And the Chair
[07:20] <ubotu> intelikey: okay
[07:21] <DShepherd> I notice that when I tab some of the icons are grayed or dimmed. What does that mean?
[07:21] <mustermann> yep.  looking at it.  scan returns nothing.  takes a while to "un-grey" once activated.
[07:21] <cornflake> deFrysk, lol just found it... my reason for asking is because i keep getting a gpg error whenever i apt-get update
[07:22] <dylan_> why does firefox use so much memory?  is there any other way to decrease it?
[07:22] <deFrysk> !gpgerror
[07:22] <ubotu> deFrysk: Do they come in packets of five?
[07:22] <deFrysk> :/
[07:22] <cornflake> and this forum said to apt-get dist-upgrade --without-authentication
[07:22] <Amaranth> !gpgerr
[07:22] <ubotu> I heard gpgerr is If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*
[07:22] <DShepherd> mustermann: so do you know what that means?
[07:22] <deFrysk> Amaranth, thats what I ment :s
[07:22] <DShepherd> dylan_: hey
[07:22] <dylan_> DShepherd, hey
[07:22] <DShepherd> dylan_: how did it go
[07:22] <mustermann> no clue.
[07:23] <Amaranth> dylan_: There is a nice long explaination for why it uses so much memory but I'm too tired to write it all out again.
[07:23] <dylan_> DShepherd, not bad...im on ubuntu now, but still the burning issue has not been resolved..
[07:23] <DShepherd> mustermann: ok thanks
[07:23] <dylan_> Amaranth, how about a link?
[07:23] <Amaranth> dylan_: I don't know of one.
[07:23] <dylan_> Amaranth, is the problem being worked on?
[07:23] <DShepherd> dylan_: so your files in the Desktop were gone?
[07:23] <Amaranth> dylan_: It's not a firefox problem.
[07:23] <cornflake> deFrysk, ok that was a WAY better solution
[07:23] <intelikey> short explanation, it's bloated ?
[07:24] <deFrysk> cornflake, stay away from daft forums
[07:24] <cornflake> deFrysk, hehe
[07:24] <cornflake> deFrysk, good thing i was smart enough to not do a apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:24] <dylan_> DShepherd, um, no - that was when i was running on slackware
[07:25] <lysis> anybody here actually alive?
[07:25] <Amaranth> dylan_: Let's say Firefox wants a chunk of memory. |||||||||||||||||| is this chunk. After awhile it frees part of this and we end up with ||||00000000|. The zeros are non-used parts but firefox is still marked as using them because of the | on the end.
[07:25] <DShepherd> dylan_: ok kool
[07:25] <intelikey> lysis i wish i knew.
[07:25] <dylan_> Amaranth, so the amount of memory use is an illusion?
[07:25] <dylan_> lol
[07:25] <Amaranth> dylan_: More or less, anyway. The solution is a new malloc function.
[07:26] <DShepherd> Amaranth: interesting...
[07:26] <lysis> intelikey . . . hehehe.    i just got ubuntu working today.  been a microsoft user until now.
[07:26] <intelikey> lysis do they come in packs of five ?
[07:26] <anavim> mustermann, this might help a bit:   http://lists.gnomehack.com/pipermail/gnome-bluetooth/2005-April/000826.html
[07:26] <dylan_> Amaranth, will it be removed in the future?
[07:26] <toresbe> lysis: grats
[07:26] <Amaranth> dylan_: No, it's actually still "in use" by firefox. As in, no one else can use it.
[07:26] <mustermann> hey thanks, i'll read up.
[07:26] <lysis> intelikey; i don't understand what you mean?
[07:26] <DShepherd> Amaranth: where do you get your facts from?
[07:26] <Amaranth> DShepherd: I got it off either a blog or a mailing list a long time ago. :P
[07:27] <lysis> anybody here care to help me troubleshoot a dvd playback problem?
[07:27] <intelikey> what ?   oh    hehhe yeah that was random....
[07:27] <DShepherd> Amaranth: are you sure they havent made changes to it since then
[07:27] <thrice`> wha'ts the problem?
[07:27] <Amaranth> lysis: Don't ask to ask, just ask.
[07:27] <dylan_> Amaranth, if i was to open 50 firefox windows, would i touch swap?
[07:27] <Amaranth> DShepherd: Pretty sure, because it requires changes in glibc.
[07:28] <Amaranth> dylan_: Depends on what you're doing/have done with those windows, I guess.
[07:28] <DShepherd> Amaranth: hmmm interesting
[07:28] <lysis> well, i started having problems with every program saying "audio device in use" or something of the sort.  now programs lock up and i have to push the reset button because the cd drive won't eject, unmount, do anything and gnome won't close until it's done.
[07:28] <DShepherd> Amaranth: so you use an alternate browser?
[07:28] <anavim> dylan_, opening just one window will touch swap if the web page is heavy enough on system resources
[07:28] <Amaranth> DShepherd: No, because the only alternative is khtml.
[07:29] <dylan_> anavim, i see
[07:29] <trappist> Amaranth: that's not the only alternative
[07:29] <DShepherd> Amaranth: we talking about broswer right
[07:29] <Amaranth> DShepherd: I think C++ and/or Qt's libs have a workaround for the problem, but it wouldn't surprise me if they had the same problem.
[07:29] <DShepherd> browser*
[07:29] <Amaranth> DShepherd: No, engines.
[07:29] <intelikey> eeek reset button !
[07:29] <DShepherd> Amaranth: ok
[07:30] <Arsiesys> Hi
[07:30] <DShepherd> hi
[07:30] <Amaranth> DShepherd: There is no point in using dillo or epiphany because they are just simple wrappers around gecko, so it doesn't help much.
[07:30] <deFrysk> hi
[07:30] <lysis> exactly!  i shouldn't be doing that i know . . .
[07:30] <DShepherd> Amaranth: so its the engine need fixing then..... interesting
[07:30] <lysis> i just loaded up xine . . .   it's playing the scene before the menu . . .
[07:30] <lysis> menu's open . . .
[07:30] <Amaranth> DShepherd: No, it's the platform the engine runs on.
[07:30] <Amaranth> DShepherd: glibc or the kernel
[07:31] <DShepherd> Amaranth: so...windows is kool then?
[07:31] <intelikey> try [ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace]   in place or the panic button
[07:31] <Amaranth> DShepherd: They probably have a better malloc, sure. :P
[07:31] <lysis> sweet jesus i got it to work i think . . .
[07:31] <Amaranth> DShepherd: Or just hide the problem by not reporting memory correctly.
[07:31] <DShepherd> Amaranth: very interesting...I hope you not messing with me :)
[07:31] <Amaranth> DShepherd: But getting an accurate measure of memory usage is hard anyway.
[07:32] <Amaranth> DShepherd: As far as I know, I'm not. :)
[07:32] <DShepherd> Amaranth: ok kool
[07:32] <lysis> ok so star wars bonus material locks up, hitch says an audio error . . . but the bourne supremacy works fine.  it could be the changes i made to it too . . .
[07:32] <Amaranth> DShepherd: Windows is not evil, by the way. :)
[07:32] <lysis> windows is definitely NOT evil.  i play games on it everyday. :)
[07:32] <DShepherd> Amaranth: I know... :) I neva thought so
[07:32] <DShepherd> Amaranth: the prices are ridiculous though...well I think so
[07:33] <Amaranth> The NT kernel is one of (if not _the_) best there is, actually.
[07:33] <Amaranth> It's all the junk on top that ruins it. :)
[07:33] <intelikey> windows not evil, but M$ eula and business practices are.
[07:33] <Amaranth> whenever someone says M$ i have to paste a link, let me find it :)
[07:33] <phiz> what's the best way to install xmms w/ ubuntu
[07:34] <lysis> so anyway; i was pretty excited when i booted up ubuntu and my logitech keyboard's sound wheel worked. haha
[07:34] <deFrysk> phiz, sudo apt-get install xmms
[07:34] <intelikey> phiz synaptic    for the gui user
[07:34] <lysis> yea synaptic is good stuff.  i've installed all kinds of goodies since i got this running earlier. :)
[07:34] <intelikey> apt-get for the cli
[07:35] <DShepherd> intelikey: aptitude works fine for me
[07:35] <intelikey> that's nice.
[07:35] <DShepherd> intelikey: I like it better than apt-get
[07:35] <intelikey> good on ya DShepherd
[07:35] <phiz> i think my sources.list is messed up
[07:35] <germancito> Hello!
[07:36] <mustermann> me too phiz.  after installing automatix.
[07:36] <phiz> is xmms a back port or what
[07:36] <germancito> I'm having a little problem with amarok
[07:36] <phiz> i have a pretty fresh install
[07:36] <lysis> so anybody know a program that burns dvd-video (using the video_ts folder)?
[07:36] <deFrysk> !tell phiz about repositories
[07:36] <phiz> thanks
[07:37] <anavim> phiz, no xmms isn't a backport
[07:38] <intelikey> ubotu info xmms
[07:38] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB
[07:38] <Amaranth> I am.
[07:39] <DShepherd> :)
[07:39] <Amaranth> Google is no good with things like "M$".
[07:39] <phiz> fixing the sources.list fixed me up.  thanks!
[07:39] <DShepherd> Amaranth: maybe you need help. what exactly u looking for?
[07:40] <Amaranth> DShepherd: A penny arcade comic named M$
[07:40] <intelikey> lol
[07:41] <DShepherd> I notice that when I tab between windows the icons are grayed or dimmed. What does that mean?
[07:41] <anavim> DShepherd, on what app?
[07:41] <DShepherd> ubuntu.....
[07:41] <anavim> DShepherd, you mean nautilus?
[07:41] <DShepherd> anavim: Alt+tab
[07:42] <Amaranth> that's metacity, not nautilus
[07:42] <anavim> DShepherd, it means they're minimized
[07:42] <DShepherd> anavim: oh.....looks again.....I knew that :)
[07:42] <DShepherd> anavim: thanks
[07:44] <Arafangion_> Why doesn't my evolution work? It fails to display my inbox, all I get is Inbox(10)
[07:44] <Arafangion_> There are about 500 emails in there, but I do not get a list of any of the contents!
[07:45] <mlalkaka> hi
[07:45] <intelikey> i played with evo for a few minutes, desided it was bloat and removed it.
[07:46] <Lokk> Hello.  Can someone please tell me which config file contains the default domain name in Ubuntu?
[07:46] <intelikey> maybe /etc/hosts  ?
[07:47] <intelikey> idk
[07:47] <mlalkaka> i need to install a program that spans two cd's, and the setup program needs me to change cd's while running it. how do i do that?
[07:47] <Lokk> Thanks intelikey.  I don't know why I didn't think of that (used to it being /etc/domainname in gentoo)
[07:48] <fortran01> what does "visable" mean in english?
[07:49] <Madpilot> fortran01: do you mean "visible"?
[07:49] <Arafangion_> Well, if nobody knows how to fix this evolution issue, could someone suggest a nice imap email client? I am used to kmail, but I don't like using kde programs in gnome.
[07:49] <intelikey> check http://dictionary.com
[07:49] <intelikey> mozilla-mail ?
[07:50] <Cole> thunderbird
[07:50] <DShepherd> Arafangion_: thunderbird?
[07:50] <fortran01> thanks Madpilot and intelikey
[07:52] <mlalkaka> how can i run a program from a cd (a installation program) that requires me to change the cd while running?
[07:53] <intelikey> cp the installer to hd ?
[07:53] <Arafangion_> DShepherd: WIll give that a look.
[07:53] <DShepherd> Arafangion_: kool
[07:56] <mlalkaka> intelikey, i think there may be too many files to copy
[07:56] <DShepherd> Amaranth: I found a forum post about it...--> http://www.penny-arcade.com/2002/07/22#1027342688 <-- can u make further progress
[07:57] <DShepherd> ?
[07:57] <trappist> mlalkaka: is it a game?
[07:57] <mlalkaka> trappist, yes
[07:58] <mlalkaka> transgress, any ideas?
[07:58] <trappist> mlalkaka: when he says copy the installer, he means just the single file you run to install it.
[07:58] <dampjam> About once a day my screen just freezes... mouse doesn't work ctrl+alt+f1-f9.... I have to hold down the power button to turn it off/on... what can I look at to diagnose this?
[07:58] <intelikey> if you have the free space in $HOME  what about mkdir $HOME/blah ;cp /cdrom/* blah -R ;eject (switch cd's) ;cp /cdrom/* blah -R ;cd blah (run installer) ;cd ;rm-rf blah      mlalkaka ?
[07:58] <trappist> like if it's installer.sh, copy it to your home directory and run it from there
[07:59] <trappist> dampjam: do you have another machine you can use to ssh to that one?
[07:59] <dampjam> trappist: sure
[07:59] <dampjam> trappist: it would be easier to ssh from this to that one, then back again... will that work?
[07:59] <trappist> dampjam: if that happens to me I try to ssh to it (to see if I can)
[07:59] <Chippendale> what is ssh??
[07:59] <cyphase> lol!
[07:59] <dampjam> Chippendale: hahaha
[07:59] <Pablo_C> o.O
[07:59] <mlalkaka> trappist, i know, but if only life were that simple in the windows world. it is a windows-based installer and i'm using wine to install it. unfortunately, unlike the good guys who made ut2003/2004, this game doesn't support linux natively.
[08:00] <Pablo_C> !google ssh
[08:00] <ubotu> Pablo_C: Wish i knew
[08:00] <trappist> dampjam: no need to do it back again - if it freezes, see if you can ssh to it, then see if you can kill X via ssh
[08:00] <dampjam> trappist: hrm... I am pretty sure even ssh will be dead
[08:00] <cyphase> i just heard someone pronounce Starfox "Starfucks"
[08:00] <trappist> dampjam: if that's the case it's probably a kernel panic
[08:00] <intelikey> ssh = secure shell
[08:00] <trappist> dampjam: but one of the reasons to ssh is to find out if that's true
[08:00] <mlalkaka> intelikey, i could use your copy method, but, if possible, i'd like to avoid that
[08:01] <Chippendale> what is ssh?
[08:01] <intelikey> did you try running the installer and when it asks for the other cd use eject and see if you can change them ?
[08:01] <trappist> mlalkaka: I used to do that with supermount, but in ubuntu that would require a kernel patch
[08:02] <trappist> intelikey: linux won't let you eject a mounted cd
[08:02] <intelikey> Chippendale 'man ssh '
[08:02] <trappist> and it won't let you umount an in-use cd
[08:02] <intelikey> trappist eject umounts them.
[08:02] <trappist> mlalkaka: iirc there are some good docs about multi-cd games on transgaming.com
[08:03] <trappist> mlalkaka: last I read about it, transgaming recommended supermount, but I think there are other solutions
[08:03] <mlalkaka> trappist, why doesn't the osdl make supermount an official module in the kernel? it's a useful feature, in my opinion.
[08:03] <intelikey> trappist that's odd then all the linux distros that mount a cd start installing their distro then ask for the next disk and spit the first one out are doing what exactly ?
[08:03] <mlalkaka> trappist, i'll check transgaming right now
[08:04] <trappist> mlalkaka: it's not osdl's decision, it's linus's.  and the answer is basically that supermount sucks.  it's never quite worked right, and even if it did, I'm not sure if linus would put it in the main tree
[08:04] <mlalkaka> intelikey, i think they're copying the installer to the hard drive first then running it from there
[08:04] <stevejesus> hey guys
[08:04] <stevejesus> anyone tried installing mezzo orchestra on ubuntu yet?
[08:04] <mlalkaka> stevejesus, hi
[08:05] <trappist> intelikey: linux distros know how to get out of the way so they can be umounted - a windows installer running from the cd is still using the cd, which will prevent it from being umounted
[08:05] <stevejesus> mlalkaka,  hi
[08:05] <jeff_> hey guys
[08:05] <joe__> i used ndisgtk and got the driver installed...what do i have to do now to get it to show up in network settings?
[08:05] <oNe^somewhere> can some1 help me install nvclock ?
[08:05] <intelikey> wrong mlalkaka ram disk not hd.  they do partition work from the installer.   this game installer may use ram disk too.   idk.
[08:05] <joe__> broadcom 1350 network card
[08:05] <jeff_> i am having a bit of a problem with .wmv files
[08:05] <jeff_> some of them play and others doint
[08:05] <stevejesus> so i got the greatest gdesklet today
[08:05] <jeff_> does anyone know why?
[08:05] <stevejesus> random simpsons quotes!
[08:05] <trappist> intelikey: ram disk or hd, the point is the code isn't running from the cd, which is why it can be umounted.  not the case with windows games.
[08:06] <trappist> jeff_: not all wmv files use the same codec
[08:06] <trappist> jeff_: you have the codecs for some and not others
[08:06] <joe__> do i have to add a line to etc or something?
[08:06] <jeff_> trappist: ok cool, where can i get them all?
[08:06] <trappist> !tell joe__ about w32codecs
[08:06] <trappist> err
[08:06] <trappist> !tell jeff_ about w32codecs
[08:07] <joe__> trappist: its a win driver
[08:07] <harris> what's up everyone
[08:07] <trappist> joe__: my mistake, I was trying to do that for jeff_
[08:08] <joe__> trappist: ah ok...so what about mine? :)
[08:08] <trappist> joe__: never used ndiswrapper, sorry
[08:08] <joe__> anyone know about ndiswrapper
[08:08] <joe__> ?
[08:09] <intelikey> i guess you could use a second cdrom drive mlalkaka
[08:09] <trappist> !ndiswrapper
[08:09] <ubotu> well, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[08:09] <mlalkaka> intelikey, i don't have another one
[08:09] <trappist> intelikey: that probably won't work either.  most games insist on looking at whatever drive you started on.
[08:10] <trappist> some do give you a browse feature, though
[08:10] <joe__> trappist: so are there native drivers for broadcom 1350 wireless drivers?
[08:10] <jeff_> trappist: I have win32codecs though, i already did waht it says on the wiki
[08:10] <mahangu_> ubotu, tell joe__ about wireless
[08:10] <trappist> mlalkaka: if you have a windows install handy you might try installing on windows, copying the install to linux and trying to run from there
[08:10] <jeff_> trappist: i can play some .wmv files and not others
[08:10] <trappist> joe__: no idea
[08:10] <intelikey> trappist it would if you mount it on the same mount point  :)
[08:11] <trappist> jeff_: try looking at the output of whatever media player you're using - mplayer usually has pretty verbose output
[08:11] <stevejesus> oh my gnome seems so much spappier using the qt engine.
[08:11] <stevejesus> snappier*
[08:11] <choudesh> ello all.
[08:11] <trappist> intelikey: how are you going to do that if you can't umount the first cd
[08:11] <choudesh> what package is smbmount in?
[08:11] <trappist> mlalkaka: out of curiosity, what game?
[08:11] <intelikey> you don't have to umount to mount over the top of :)
[08:12] <trappist> choudesh: apt-file search bin/smbmount
[08:12] <Amaranth> stevejesus: I'm waiting for the day when I can use GTK with Qt using the glib main loop rendering my GTK widgets. :)
[08:12] <trappist> choudesh:  if that doesn't work, apt-get install apt-file and apt-file update
[08:12] <mlalkaka> trappist, SWAT 3 (TGOTY)
[08:12] <jeff_> trappist: ok ill check it out
[08:12] <locomorto> Amaranth: as we all are :)
[08:12] <stevejesus> Amaranth, that'll be the day.
[08:13] <locomorto> Amaranth: the pity is you can do it with qt
[08:13] <trappist> mlalkaka: oh, never heard of that one.  have you tried running the installer *from* your home directory, like cd $HOME;wine /media/cdrom0/setup.exe
[08:13] <stevejesus> Amaranth, dang qt crash gdesklets...
[08:13] <locomorto> Amaranth: but qt themes sucks afiak
[08:13] <choudesh> trappist, what if you don't have the breezy CDROM?
[08:13] <trappist> choudesh: the repositories are online
[08:13] <mlalkaka> trappist, no i havent. but how would that work?
[08:13] <Amaranth> Appearently trolltech is actually considering using the glib mainloop in Qt for *nix. That'll be awesome.
[08:13] <choudesh> trappist, I know. I run apt-file update and it asks for a CDROM
[08:14] <trappist> mlalkaka: it might not work at all, choudesh smbfs: usr/bin/smbmount
[08:14] <Amaranth> (that's the mainloop gtk uses so you can you both in one app without them blocking each other)
[08:14] <trappist> gah, oops
[08:14] <stevejesus> Amaranth, there really needs to be some unification...
[08:14] <trappist> choudesh: smbfs: usr/bin/smbmount
[08:14] <mahangu_> how do you see the amount of free space on your partitions?
[08:14] <Amaranth> and with that code you can have GParts, KParts embedded in GTK widgets
[08:14] <trappist> mlalkaka: basically you'd be in your home directory and the setup.exe will maybe-just-maybe run itself from ram and not the cd and you can umount and swap cds.  worth a shot.
[08:15] <jeff_> trappist: it gives me 'error, too many packets in the buffer'
[08:15] <trappist> mahangu_: df -h
[08:15] <trappist> jeff_: try with mplayer --nocache
[08:15] <choudesh> trappist, Thanks
[08:15] <Delvien> Anyone know a way to get Adobe Photoshop Cs2 9.0 to work on linux? Im not liking the Gimp
[08:15] <mlalkaka> trappist, is it possible mount a cdrom drive in a directory that already contains files, and access both (files from the cd and files on the hard drive in the same directory) at the same time?
[08:15] <intelikey> mahangu_ 'df -h '
[08:15] <mahangu_> trappist, thanks
[08:15] <mahangu_> intelikey, thanks
[08:15] <trappist> Delvien: www.codeweavers.com
[08:16] <trappist> mlalkaka: not that I know of
[08:16] <Amaranth> Delvien: As far as I know it doesn't work in WINE or Crossover Office so no.
[08:16] <Delvien> trappist CrossOver is slow, and unreliable
[08:16] <mlalkaka> trappist, alright. installation attempt 2...
[08:16] <trappist> Delvien: it's neither in my experience, but I'm pretty sure it's the only solution for what you're trying to do, unless you want some virtualization like vmware or something
[08:16] <Delvien> Amaranth i wish adobe would make a linux version :( i miss it so much
[08:17] <intelikey> xpdf ?
[08:17] <ispiked> anyone else's (letter) z's get messed up for Times New Roman?
[08:18] <trappist> Delvien: I'm not a photoshop guy but I run apps in cxoffice all the time, and I find that it works quite nicely.  especially newer versions.
[08:18] <harris> anyone know a program that I can make animated gifs in? can the gimp handle that?
[08:18] <Delvien> trappist i have 4.1 , doesnt work too good lol.. but it is the demo...
[08:18] <Venson> harris: i just opened a gif y'day in Gimp.....and yeah, i think it can handle all that stuff
[08:18] <Amaranth> the demo is the same as the full version
[08:18] <trappist> Delvien: the demo is fully functional, so that wouldn't be it.  5.0 is available, though.
[08:18] <Amaranth> just with nag screen
[08:19] <harris> cool, thanks man. I will have to check it out in more depth venson
[08:19] <rabeldable> harris: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Simple_Animations/
[08:19] <mlalkaka> trappist, do you know where on the transgaming site you saw them mention things about supermount and other options?
[08:19] <ThomasM> Delvien: Have you looked into using virtual machines?
[08:19] <Delvien> ThomasM Vmware?
[08:20] <trappist> mlalkaka: it was years ago that I saw it, and the whole site's been redone since then.  try searching for supermount, since any discussion of multi-cd games will probably make reference to it.
[08:20] <ThomasM> Delvien: Or others cut from the same cloth, yes. VMware is the best I've seen for full Windows virtualization.
[08:20] <harris> sweet... thanks rebeldable. just what i needed
[08:20] <harris> just checking out the turtorial now
[08:21] <Delvien> ThomasM i dual boot windows, so VMware would be a waste of harddrive space. and time, i want to run Adobe in linux, im running 7, was just wondering if i can run 9 (the one i own)
[08:21] <oNe^somewhere> hello ..i'm new to ubuntu and to linux ...could some1 plz help me install nvclock ?
[08:22] <intelikey> Delvien if it's not open source you don't "own" it.
[08:22] <trappist> oNe^somewhere: sudo apt-get install nvclock
[08:22] <DaBass> hello i am geting this error: hroot: cannot
[08:22] <DaBass> execute /bin/sh: No such file or directory
[08:22] <trappist> intelikey: you don't own it if it is open source.
[08:22] <Delvien> intelikey umm, i own a copy of Adobe Photoshop cs2
[08:22] <DaBass> can somebody help me
[08:22] <ThomasM> Delvien: What are you using for 7? Wine?
[08:23] <Amaranth> Delvien: Technically you own a license to use it, but yeah. :)
[08:23] <ThomasM> DaBass: The directory you're chrooting into doesn't have a program at bin/sh
[08:23] <intelikey> Delvien did you read the "eula" ?
[08:23] <Delvien> ThomasM Crossover office
[08:23] <trappist> DaBass: sounds like you're trying to chroot to a directory without a /bin/sh in it
[08:23] <mlalkaka> trappist, running the installer from the home directory didn't work. i guess i'll just copy all the files temporarily
[08:23] <DaBass> oh ok
[08:23] <ThomasM> DaBass: You have to duplicate some of the important bits in the target chroot directory.
[08:23] <trappist> mlalkaka: good luck with that :)
[08:23] <ThomasM> DaBass: tldp.org has a good HOWTO covering chrooting.
[08:24] <trappist> !tell DaBass abount chroot
[08:24] <freakman> how do you pronounce "ubuntu"?
[08:24] <harris> hahahhah that quote is great
[08:24] <trappist> !tell DaBass about chroot
[08:25] <mlalkaka> btw, what's the name of the bot in this channel (the equivalent of dpkg in #debian)?
[08:25] <trappist> mlalkaka: ubotu
[08:25] <mlalkaka> trappist, thanks
[08:25] <trappist> ubotu: tell mlalkaka about yourself
[08:26] <mlalkaka> trappist, i've found these bots to invaluable
[08:26] <DaBass> thanks all
[08:26] <trappist> yeah ubotu's probably the best bot I've seen
[08:26] <freakman> does anyone know how to pronounce it? :-(
[08:26] <oNe^somewhere> trappist,  i done that ...now how do i run it lol (told ya i was a newbie)
[08:26] <trappist> well-armed and all that
[08:26] <x0rrrz> Anybody use Proftpd?
[08:26] <Amaranth> oo-bot-oo?
[08:26] <trappist> freakman: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/pronunciation  <-- first google hit.  try harder.
[08:27] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: yes
[08:27] <mlalkaka> freakman, i think it's pronounced oo-BOT-oo
[08:27] <x0rrrz> rabeldable: could you help me setup an account with it?
[08:27] <andra> gmn kbr
[08:27] <freakman> trappist: thanks :-)
[08:27] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: are you using local system account or did you setup a passwd file just for proftpd?
[08:27] <freakman> ubuntu is hard to pronounce :-(
[08:28] <x0rrrz> uhh local system
[08:28] <pegasus> dude version 5.10 has some issues it keeps on freezing up on me per say(the hard drive is still spinning but I cant use the mouse or keybord) I have a ok system 1ghz 256mb 7200rpm drives
[08:28] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: are you using ubuntu linux?
[08:28] <x0rrrz> but i want others outside my network to be able to use it
[08:28] <x0rrrz> yes
[08:28] <x0rrrz> i am
[08:28] <x0rrrz> breezy
[08:28] <x0rrrz> 5.10
[08:28] <intelikey> !return
[08:28] <ubotu> intelikey: Are you smoking crack?
[08:28] <x0rrrz> just installed
[08:28] <dylan_> where do i get the w32codecs
[08:28] <intelikey> !enter
[08:28] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[08:28] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: run this:  netstat -na | grep LIST
[08:28] <andra> hai
[08:29] <pegasus> anyone else having issues
[08:29] <x0rrrrrrrrrz> k
[08:29] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: did you install Proftpd and is it running?
[08:29] <DaBass> ThomasM: can you tell me the "important bits"
[08:29] <Amaranth> !w32codecs
[08:29] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil. You can get them by going to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, and looking for "The Codecs". Another possible download location is http://seveas.ubuntu.nl/
[08:29] <x0rrrrrrrrrz> what am i looking for rabeldable?
[08:29] <ThomasM> DaBass: It's in that TLDP article. Let me grab you the link.
[08:29] <DaBass> ok
[08:30] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: your looking for somethng listening to port 21
[08:30] <x0rrrrrrrrrz> yes
[08:30] <x0rrrrrrrrrz> rabeldable: tcp        0        0,0,0,0:21               0.0.0.0.0*          LISTEN
[08:31] <mlalkaka> trappist, wouldn't the installation executable file have to be copied into the ram? so what if i forced the cd to unmount and then mounted the second cd (i feel stupid and ignorant, i know)?
[08:31] <x0rrrrrrrrrz> tcp only, no steam
[08:31] <x0rrrrrrrrrz> stream(
[08:32] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: is it running as stand alone or inetd
[08:32] <trappist> mlalkaka: if it copies itself to ram, you should be able to umount the cd fine.  if it runs from the cd, that won't work and forcing the issue will kill the installer.  it's pretty much a sucky problem, and you may actually have to patch your kernel (supermount) to get around it.
[08:32] <nomad111> wat software can i use to sync my ipod nano
[08:32] <mlalkaka> trappist, oh.
[08:32] <x0rrrrrrrrrz> how do i tell rabeldable?
[08:32] <trappist> nomad111: gtkpod
[08:32] <nomad111> k thx
[08:33] <x0rrrrrrrrrz> i am sorry, i am new
[08:33] <nomad111> but does it convert ogg to the required format
[08:33] <intelikey> mlalkaka or cp the cds to hd and install from there.
[08:33] <Delvien> Well almost got Photoshop CS2 working... sigh
[08:33] <ThomasM> DaBass: Looks like what you mostly need is /bin/sh and /bin/ls.  You'll need more files and libraries depending on what you're trying to do with your chroot. What is it you're doing?
[08:33] <nomad111> coz ubuntu rps cd's in ogg format
[08:33] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: ps -ef | grep proftp
[08:33] <mlalkaka> trappist, i just found another solution (well it's actually a variant of the copy-cd solution): i can copy both cd's to different directories and use wine's dosdevices folder to create symlinks to these directories. so i would have a d: point to cd1 and e: point to cd2
[08:33] <trappist> !nickometer x0rrrrrrrrrz
[08:33] <ubotu> 'x0rrrrrrrrrz' is 99.77% lame, trappist
[08:33] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: should see: nobody   23260     1  0 23:32 ?        00:00:00 proftpd: (accepting connections)
[08:33] <mlalkaka> intelikey, that's what i'm doing now
[08:33] <rabeldable> something like that
[08:34] <x0rrrrrrrrrz> how do i copy paste in terminal
[08:34] <x0rrrrrrrrrz> nm
[08:34] <rabeldable> !paste
[08:34] <ubotu> well, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[08:34] <trappist> mlalkaka: you know, I never thought of that.  that could work.
[08:34] <bob2> select, middle click
[08:34] <Amaranth> x0rrrrrrrrrz: Ctrl-Shift-V
[08:34] <bob2> just like all other traditional X apps
[08:34] <x0rrrrrrrrrz> nobody    7802     1  0 Nov17 ?        00:00:00 proftpd: (accepting connections)mike     14176 14019  0 00:33 pts/0    00:00:00 grep proftp
[08:34] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: thats the stand alone configuration
[08:35] <DShepherd> where do I go to set the default app to lauch when my a music cd is inserted?
[08:35] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: you have a /etc/proftpd.conf file
[08:35] <mlalkaka> trappist, i was browsing the diablo II application DB on winehq.org (because diablo 2 also has a 2-3 cd installation) and a person in the forum used this method so i'll try it
[08:35] <nomad111> ok i need some srs help i got a problem with my ubuntu a serious one i think
[08:35] <x0rrrrrrrrrz> k
[08:35] <x0rrrrrrrrrz> open it?
[08:35] <nomad111> and i need to dump sumthing in here
[08:35] <rabeldable> wait
[08:35] <trappist> mlalkaka: awesome.  let me know how it goes.
[08:35] <intelikey> x0rrrrrrrrrz doesn't the mouse work ?      highlight  point where you want it and middle click(both click for only two button)
[08:35] <trappist> nomad111: no, not in here.  see /topic
[08:36] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: when you say you want users to connect over the network... do you want them to have unique usernames or do you want them to login anonymously
[08:36] <blanky> hey guys, do you know of any 'command line only' live distros that have G++ and emacs instlaled?
[08:36] <x0rrrrrrrrrz> unique usernames
[08:36] <x0rrrrrrrrrz> rabeldable and i want to be able to add people outside of the network aswell
[08:36] <x0rrrrrrrrrz> with unique usernames...
[08:36] <nomad111> trappist, how can i show the problem
[08:36] <nomad111> trappist, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl?
[08:36] <bob2> bah
[08:36] <trappist> nomad111: yes, like that
[08:36] <bob2> ftp daemons should require you to answer a short quiz before they let you install them
[08:37] <mbs> so, we're stupid ... we're trying to set up ubuntu on an adaptec raid card ... any ideas on how the drives should be configured?
[08:37] <trappist> bob2: operating systems too
[08:37] <mbs> should it be done before or after the os install?
[08:37] <DShepherd> where do I go to set the default app to lauch when my a music cd is inserted?
[08:37] <DShepherd> launch*
[08:37] <mbs> (it shows all 3 drives at the section about formatting, just pick the first or should we have the clustered together already?)
[08:37] <bob2> mbs: if it's a real raid card, ubuntu doesn't know or care about the arry
[08:37] <trappist> DShepherd: you don't.  linux doesn't poll for that.  but there are daemons out there that will do it for you.
[08:37] <Amaranth> DShepherd: It's in System->Preferences
[08:37] <Terminus> blanky, i'm not sure but i really love SLAX. best part is, if you don't like the defaults, you can always remaster it. :)
[08:37] <trappist> oh, was I wrong?
[08:37] <intelikey> distros should start the install with 'man man '   and only go on if you read it.......  :)
[08:38] <bob2> mbs: if it's new, you need to set it up in advance, yes
[08:38] <mbs> bob2, so it should show just one logical device by the time ubuntu gets to it?
[08:38] <kelbizzle> Any one know how to add ad cd burner?
[08:38] <Amaranth> trappist: hal + gnome-volume-manager
[08:38] <bob2> mbs: yes
[08:38] <DShepherd> trappist: ok thanks
[08:38] <trappist> Amaranth: sweet.
[08:38] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: you can do it two ways... add the users to your system and when they login they will go to their home directory - or - you can create proftpd style directory tree with a custom password file just for proftpd, then the users can't access the system they can only access ftp
[08:38] <dducko> kelbizzle, Like how?  The software, or an actuall cd burner?
[08:38] <trappist> DShepherd: don't listen to me.  I was apparently misinformed.
[08:38] <bob2> mbs: assuming you're producing a single raid-5 or whatever volume out of the bunch of disks (which is the most common option I'd think)
[08:38] <mbs> bob2, gotcha, we're in the scsi select utility ... is that what we need to use normally or is there an aditional util people (adaptec) normally provide to do setup?
[08:38] <kelbizzle> the actual burner
[08:38] <DShepherd> trappist: ok...who am I supposed to listen to
[08:38] <mbs> bob2, yes
[08:38] <trappist> DShepherd: Amaranth
[08:38] <bob2> mbs: dunno, never used one :)
[08:39] <nomad111> trappist, i pasted it can u plz hav a look i would really appreciate it
[08:39] <x0rrrz> 2nd option plz rabeldable
[08:39] <trappist> DShepherd: 01:37 <Amaranth> DShepherd: It's in System->Preferences
[08:39] <dducko> Into the system,.  or is it already installed into the computer kelbizzle
[08:39] <mbs> bob2, thanks :) gonna go grep the adaptec site ... at least we now know what to do
[08:39] <DShepherd> Amaranth, trappist: checking now
[08:39] <trappist> nomad111: before I do can you summarize the problem for all of us?
[08:39] <kelbizzle> I Want to install it
[08:39] <ThomasM> DaBass: Get it all figured out?
[08:39] <Amaranth> DShepherd: prefered apps or something
[08:39] <trappist> nomad111: and while you're at it, provide a link to it? :)
[08:39] <nomad111> well i think im missing some vital files like for cups and all that
[08:39] <DaBass> nope
[08:40] <dducko> You have a Space for it already or replacing a drive? kelbizzle
[08:40] <DaBass> u said youll give me a link
[08:40] <nomad111> something must hav happend when i was installing ubuntu
[08:40] <kelbizzle> i have space
[08:40] <nomad111> trappist, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4774
[08:40] <ThomasM> DaBass: And I explained what you needed and asked you for more information. If you don't respond for 5 minutes, I assume you have nothing more to add. :)
[08:40] <DShepherd> Amaranth: it only covers 3 sections.. web browser, gnome-terminal and mail reader.. no music cd there
[08:40] <DaBass> THomasM ?
[08:40] <trappist> nomad111: if you're missing system files, sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update.  then if you're missing a file, apt-file search <file> to see what package needs to be (re)installed
[08:40] <dducko> kelbizzle,  /join #dzdsytems
[08:41] <ThomasM> DaBass: Read your scroll or something. I'm not here to parrot at you and repeat myself until you notice.
[08:41] <DShepherd> Amaranth: ah...checking removable drives..
[08:41] <DaBass> ThomasM I did not get anything
[08:41] <nomad111> trappist, thats thing i dunno wat files need to be installed
[08:41] <ThomasM> DaBass: I'll be helpful, but I won't hold your hand.
[08:41] <GTroy> guys is there a installed ftp app?
[08:41] <trappist> nomad111: oh, I see, it never got completely installed.  unfortunately the output you pasted isn't enough for me to know why.  it basically just says it failed.
[08:41] <DaBass> ThomasM where did you explain?
[08:42] <x0rrrz> gFTP i think comes installed
[08:42] <ThomasM> GTroy: 'ftp' should work on any system. I prefer 'lftp' to just about anything.
[08:42] <nomad111> trappist, so basically i need a new copy of ubuntu
[08:42] <nomad111> trappist, coz im pretty sure the copy i ahd was corrupt
[08:42] <GTroy> thanks
[08:42] <DaBass> ThomasM could this be a probel: "Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems,"
[08:42] <nomad111> i need to get yum
[08:43] <nomad111> i dunno how to use sudo or watever
[08:43] <ThomasM> DaBass: I don't send private messages without asking, as I consider it rude. You asked a question in the channel. I respond in the channel.
[08:43] <x0rrrz> rabeldable can you help me set it up so they can only get to the directory tree without getting on the system?
[08:43] <x0rrrz> access to the system*
[08:43] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: I can give you the informatio you need to do it yourself will that work?
[08:43] <trappist> DaBass: keep relevant discussions on the channel so everyone can benefit.
[08:44] <x0rrrz> yes
[08:44] <x0rrrz> thank you rabeldable
[08:44] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: k give me another minute
[08:44] <BigKahuna> join #opensuse
[08:44] <x0rrrz> ok
[08:44] <oNe^somewhere> trappist .. i have the nvclock installed but dont know how to run it
[08:44] <x0rrrz> I appreciate this
[08:44] <trappist> oNe^somewhere: neither do I
[08:44] <Amaranth> BigKahuna: That looks like spam...
[08:44] <DaBass> trappist that's what i intendet
[08:44] <trappist> oNe^somewhere: I assume you'd run 'nvclock'
[08:44] <BigKahuna> looks like a typo to me.
[08:44] <oNe^somewhere> in a terminal ?
[08:45] <trappist> oNe^somewhere: yes... just a guess
[08:45] <DaBass> ThomasM u said u'd give me a link and i was waiting
[08:45] <Amaranth> BigKahuna: Ah, I thought you were telling people to join. :)
[08:45] <ThomasM> DaBass: Please just read through your scrollback, or search it (which any useful client should support). When you answer the questions I asked you in response, we'll continue.
[08:45] <toblerp> i run ubuntu breezy on my laptop and i'm trying to play dvds (libdvdcss2 is installed) but totem, mplayer and xine need the power of the whole cpu and there is a lot of framedrop. what can i do that i can watch movies?
[08:46] <matsavhalev> can anyone help? I get the error smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts. What do i do?
[08:46] <ThomasM> toblerp: Are you using a video driver specific to your device or a generic one?
[08:46] <trappist> matsavhalev: sudo smbmount <args>
[08:46] <toblerp> i'm using the ati generic one, not fglrx
[08:47] <matsavhalev> trappist: can i change it to not be only for root?
[08:47] <toblerp> i got the same results with fglrx, though
[08:47] <trappist> toblerp: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdX where hdX is your dvd
[08:47] <toblerp> dma was deactivated??
[08:47] <trappist> toblerp: most likely
[08:48] <toblerp> lol
[08:48] <toblerp> works perfectly
[08:48] <trappist> :)
[08:48] <toblerp> thanks
[08:48] <DaBass> ThomasM sorry my bad
[08:49] <toblerp> i didn't even check if dma was activated because i thought it was on
[08:49] <DaBass> ThomasM i am trying to install edubuntu over network
[08:49] <DShepherd> Amaranth: trappist, System - Prefs - Removable media works for setting the default program launch for audio cds.. I seemingly...many other kool stuff
[08:49] <rabeldable> !paste
[08:49] <ubotu> well, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[08:49] <ThomasM> DaBass: And why do you need chroot?
[08:50] <ThomasM> DaBass: To install it in a certain portion of your drive?
[08:51] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4776
[08:51] <x0rrrz> thank you rabeldable
[08:51] <x0rrrz> now do i put that in my .conf file
[08:51] <x0rrrz> or go to links/
[08:52] <DaBass> ThomasM nope i was installing acording to this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WithFloppies?highlight=%28install%29
[08:52] <toblerp> IDENTIFY
[08:52] <rabeldable> go to the links.... read up on this its important to understand.
[08:52] <x0rrrz> ok
[08:52] <x0rrrz> thanks
[08:52] <Swedish_Chef> how do i disable the grouping of similar tasks in the taskbar?
[08:52] <trappist> DShepherd: awesome, maybe I'm missing out on some cool stuff by using kde
[08:52] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: the easier way is to create individual users on your system and remove the shell from their /etc/passwd entry
[08:53] <DShepherd> trappist: maybe you are
[08:53] <x0rrrz> ....huh? lol
[08:53] <rabeldable> that way they can not login to your system but they can use ftp...
[08:53] <trappist> rabeldable: I use pure-ftpd but if you set the shell to (say) /bin/false ftp doesn't work
[08:54] <x0rrrz> im not going to be able to figrue this out rofl
[08:56] <trappist> x0rrrz: it might be a good idea to get a better handle on linux before trying to run a public ftp server
[08:56] <x0rrrz> i dont want it to be public
[08:56] <x0rrrz> just few users on
[08:56] <x0rrrz> friends pretty uch
[08:56] <rabeldable> x0rrrz:  is it on the net?
[08:56] <trappist> x0rrrz: it'll still be public, unless these friends are on your private network
[08:56] <BigKahuna> It's a little of topic - but what app will allow me to reverse encode and avi file back into 'DVD' format?
[08:56] <x0rrrz> yes its on the net
[08:57] <trappist> x0rrrz: on the net == public
[08:57] <x0rrrz> k
[08:57] <DaBass> ThomasM i've put ls and sh there and nothing has changed
[08:57] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: what are you confused about?
[08:57] <trappist> x0rrrz: who you want to get on and who can get on aren't the same thing
[08:57] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: do you use ssh?
[08:58] <x0rrrz> uhhh
[08:58] <x0rrrz> idk
[08:58] <x0rrrz> probably not if its not default
[08:59] <x0rrrz> i have vnc installed
[08:59] <x0rrrz> so people can get on
[08:59] <x0rrrz> i know that
[08:59] <x0rrrz> like people can get on and use my computer
[08:59] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: read this.... http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/usc20_essentials.html
[08:59] <ghostpsalm> how do you switch between kernel images?
[08:59] <trappist> x0rrrz: please, please turn that off and spend a little time learning linux before you start running servers
[08:59] <keeb> !apache
[08:59] <ubotu> [apache]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[09:00] <x0rrrz> i try
[09:00] <keeb> !php
[09:00] <ubotu> somebody said lamp was Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:00] <x0rrrz> im not good at selt teach
[09:00] <trappist> rabeldable: that's an awesome link
[09:01] <rabeldable> http://www.cert.org is a good site
[09:01] <Fritz> hi
[09:02] <DaBass> THomasM r u still there?
[09:02] <rabeldable> x0rrrz:  here is the complete checklist:  http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/usc20_full.html
[09:02] <matsavhalev> rabeldable: thanks for the link...
[09:03] <x0rrrz> usc = ?
[09:03] <x0rrrz> oh
[09:03] <x0rrrz> unix security checklist
[09:03] <x0rrrz> rabeldable thats a lot of reading rofl
[09:03] <Fritz> can anybody answer what I hope should be a quick question about ubuntu server?
[09:03] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: one suggestion, don't allow people with vnc to connect to your linux box... require ssh
[09:03] <dducko> Lots of good information
[09:04] <matsavhalev> securitywise if i have guarddog configured correctly is there much to worry about running an apache server?
[09:04] <matsavhalev> to the internet
[09:04] <x0rrrz> how do i do that?
[09:04] <x0rrrz> is it easy?
[09:04] <rabeldable> !ssh
[09:04] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[09:04] <matsavhalev> ssh is great!
[09:04] <Karat3> hi
[09:04] <echo> Hello
[09:05] <Fritz> is there a command for ubuntu that basically reruns through the main configuration, including rescanning hardware?
[09:05] <x0rrrz> so rabeldable once i do all of that ssh is installed and will automatically work?
[09:05] <x0rrrz> i wont have to worry about running a program or something
[09:05] <matsavhalev> X0rrrz: just sudo apt-get install openssh-server should have it up and running
[09:05] <Karat3> Question: is debootstrap on a ubuntu cd different to the version on a debian cd (meaning is it a good idea to install debian with an ubuntu cd as i have bo debian cd?)
[09:05] <Fritz> I know there is a command like that in debian, it is something like "dpkg-reconfigure system" but I can't remember the exact syntax and I haven't had luck googling it
[09:05] <tekeo> I need to update my kernel, but I don't know how to...
[09:06] <bob2> Karat3: for that it is fine
[09:06] <bob2> Karat3: (aside fro mthe fact ubuntu's debootstrap might be out of date)
[09:06] <bob2> Fritz: er, there's nothing to rescan
[09:06] <bob2> Fritz: hotplug does a full usb/pci/firewire scan on each boot
[09:06] <Fritz> bob2> so my network card died and I needed to put in a new one, but it's not coming up
[09:06] <bob2> Fritz: then find out why
[09:07] <Fritz> I know the new card is compatible because it shows up witha new install
[09:07] <Karat3> bob2: last time i tried this i finally found xorg installed on my debian sarge, how can this be?
[09:07] <bob2> Fritz: pci devices should be detected on boot (hints: dmesg and lspci output)
[09:07] <Fritz> bob, any idea where to start?
[09:07] <x0rrrrrrrrrz> ok thanks
[09:07] <Fritz> ok
[09:07] <rabeldable> x0rrrz:  yes it will, but to restrict access to the system you need to look at the sshd_config file to limit the users that can ssh in
[09:07] <bob2> Karat3: sounds like you invoked debootstrap wrong
[09:07] <x0rrrz> limit it to 1?
[09:07] <tekeo> the kernel updateing
[09:07] <Fritz> I'll take a look through them, I tried manually running modprobe but no output
[09:07] <DaBass> anybody knows about an easy way to do ubuntu netinstall
[09:08] <rabeldable> x0rrrz:  sure, you only allow your user to connect using ssh
[09:08] <echo> Is there a default ftp server packaged with ubuntu?
[09:08] <bob2> echo: nope
[09:08] <bob2> Fritz: modprobe never prints anything unless it went wrong
[09:08] <bob2> DaBass: get a free cd from shipit.ubuntu.com
[09:08] <x0rrrz> m..
[09:08] <vbgunz> anybody here use devilspie? I just started using it and love it! I have a question though... As I am testing the script I enter "killall devilspie" then to restart it and test a new config "devilspie &"... The only problem is, when I close out the terminal, I seem to also shutdown devilspie... How to make it persistant?
[09:08] <bob2> echo: there are dozens available, of course; I don't know of any reason to use anything aside from proftpd or vsftpd.
[09:09] <DaBass> bob2 i have the cd i don't have cdrom
[09:09] <echo> Any recommendations for an ftpd for ubuntu?
[09:09] <yi> vbgunz: nohup devilspie
[09:09] <DaBass> bob2 no way to boot only floppies
[09:09] <bob2> DaBass: no
[09:09] <vbgunz> yi, thanks for the hint!
[09:09] <x0rrrrrrrrrz> ok installed
[09:09] <rabeldable> x0rrrz:  now if you do:  netstat -na | grep LIST
[09:09] <x0rrrz> is their an easy ftp server than proftpd?
[09:10] <Karat3> bob2: in example?
[09:10] <rabeldable> x0rrrz: you should see port 22 listening, thats ssh
[09:10] <x0rrrrrrrrrz> shows same thing
[09:10] <bob2> x0rrrz: you'd need to define "easy"; proftpd is trivial to get going
[09:10] <x0rrrrrrrrrz> tcp6
[09:10] <bob2> (ie it works when you install it)
[09:10] <x0rrrrrrrrrz> whatever tcp6 is
[09:10] <vbgunz> yi: it works, "no hangups" major thanks!
[09:10] <DaBass> bob2 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WithFloppies?highlight=%28install%29
[09:10] <Fritz> bob> ok, according to dmesg it's detected and activated successfully using 8139too but it doesn't show up in ifconfig
[09:11] <bob2> Fritz: "ifconfig -a"
[09:11] <tekeo> x0rrrz: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installftpserver it's proftpd but a guide how to use etc
[09:11] <ghostpsalm> I have two kernels in my /boot; when I chroot it uses the wrong one - how do I change this?
[09:11] <DaBass> bob2 but i got stuck on chroot
[09:12] <Karat3> bob2: i mean, how can this be done wrong? i just specified the mirror server of debian.
[09:12] <bob2> ghostpsalm: kernels have nothing to do with the chroot command
[09:12] <bob2> Karat3: I don't know what command line you used
[09:12] <Fritz> bob> thanks, it was there the whole time, so I just need to configure it
[09:12] <bob2> DaBass: stuck = ?
[09:12] <tekeo> can any1 help me with my kernel updating...
[09:12] <bob2> DaBass: also, network boot is probably simpler
[09:13] <bob2> tekeo: not unless you ask a question...
[09:13] <ghostpsalm> bob2: I chroot into my system, and the type 'uname -a' and it says the wrong image..?
[09:13] <DaBass> bob2 i have pcmcia ethernet, does that work with it?
[09:13] <Karat3> bob2: debootstrap woody /mnt http://source.rfc822.org/debian
[09:13] <bob2> ghostpsalm: it shows different values depending on whether you're in the chroot or not?
[09:13] <Karat3> err
[09:13] <Karat3> bob2: debootstrap sarge /mnt http://server/debian
[09:13] <tekeo> bob2: how to update the kernel
[09:14] <Fritz> bob, is there a dpk-reconfigure for networking?
[09:14] <bob2> tekeo: what do you mean "update"?
[09:14] <tekeo> ?
[09:14] <bob2> Fritz: no. also, etherconf.
[09:14] <DaBass> bob2 stuck: it gives me error cannot exxecute
[09:14] <bob2> DaBass: that's not a literal error message
[09:14] <tekeo> bob2:I need a newer version of the kernel
[09:14] <bob2> tekeo: why?
[09:14] <bob2> tekeo: you need to provide a ton more detail before I can give you a useful answer
[09:15] <tekeo> bob2: installing the new broadcom drivers for linux
[09:15] <bob2> Karat3: ok, I do not know how that could install x.org in /mnt/
[09:15] <bob2> tekeo: um
[09:15] <DaBass> bob2 chroot: cannot execute /bin/sh: No such file or directory
[09:15] <bob2> tekeo: if you don't know how to change your kernel version, I don't htink playing with alpha drivers is a very hot idea
[09:15] <bob2> DaBass: that means you haven't installed your chroot correctly (ie /bin/sh does not exist within it)
[09:15] <nomad111> how can i make the font in ubuntu brighter and more readable
[09:15] <nomad111> i dun like anti-aliased fonts
[09:16] <nomad111> i like sharp edged fonts
[09:16] <bob2> nomad111: so disable it
[09:16] <nomad111> how
[09:16] <ghostpsalm> bob2: Oke, thanks for that - same both ways.  I want to see my software raid in my chroot env. so I can install GRUB to it's MBR, the 'dmsetup status' tells me I need to enable the 'device-mapper' drvier to do so?
[09:16] <bob2> nomad111: system -> [preferences -> font
[09:16] <tekeo> bob2: not?
[09:16] <nomad111> i got vision disability
[09:16] <bob2> tekeo: ?
[09:16] <johnnybezak> hey guys
[09:16] <bob2> ghostpsalm: do you have /proc and /sys mounted in the chroot?
[09:16] <tekeo> bob2: is it better to wait for stable drivers?
[09:16] <ghostpsalm> bob2: Yes.
[09:16] <DaBass> bob2 u mean within the target dir?
[09:17] <bob2> tekeo: yes
[09:17] <bob2> DaBass: yes
[09:17] <nomad111> bob2, im looking at this pdf and the font is so thin, good size but thin wat can i do for that
[09:17] <bob2> nomad111: that's a problem with the pdf, you'll need to tweak your pdf reader (or just zoom in)
[09:17] <johnnybezak> i've got a question, when I try and eject my ipod it wount eject it. to get rid of the "do not disconnect" message on the ipod i have to do a "sudo eject /dev/sda*" and I find that this corrupts my iPod library and makes the ipod read only. Anyone got any ideas to fix this?
[09:18] <tekeo> bob2: what can possibly go so wrong that it's not worth a try?
[09:18] <bob2> tekeo: making your system unbootable?
[09:18] <DaBass> bob2 ThomasM told me that all I should need would be /bin/sh /bin/ls and i copied those two is there anything else i have to do?
[09:18] <NoUse> johnnybezak, what are you using to eject the ipod?
[09:18] <bob2> tekeo: also, it would take a very long time for someone to teach you to compile your own kernel, which is a bit silly for so little gain
[09:18] <bob2> DaBass: uh
[09:18] <ThomasM> DaBass: I told you how to create a basic chroot. Please don't put words in my mouth.
[09:18] <ghostpsalm> bob2: '/proc/devices: fopen failed: No such file or directory'; when I run the dmsetup status...
[09:19] <bob2> DaBass: debootstrap puts all you need in there
[09:19] <DaBass> ThomasM sorry did not want to
[09:19] <bob2> ghostpsalm: does it exist in|out of the chroot?
[09:19] <ghostpsalm> bob2: It works perfectly outside of the chroot.
[09:19] <ThomasM> I did not want to type it! Somebody made me! Meh.
[09:19] <tekeo>  bob2: I can compile my own kernel, but mayB I don't know exactly which things to enable/disable
[09:20] <bob2> tekeo: which is the problem
[09:20] <tekeo>  bob2: huh?
[09:20] <johnnybezak> NoUse: I have used a few different things Nautilus, Banshee
[09:20] <bob2> tekeo: yes, that is the only source of difficulty in building a kernel
[09:20] <tekeo>  bob2: the problem is that I want to update my kernel and get my wireless card to work...
[09:20] <DaBass> THomasM i meant to interpret it the best way i know, i am a newbie i did not want to mess up your words
[09:20] <NoUse> johnnybezak, I usually just right click on the icon on the desktop or in Computer and click unmount and it works like a charm, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:20] <bob2> tekeo: actually compiling it is trivial, the hard part is configuring it correctly
[09:21] <bob2> tekeo: I'm not sure what that has to do with anything; can't you use ndiswrapper?
[09:21] <tekeo> bob2: no
[09:21] <ThomasM> DaBass: Stop worrying about my poor self and go read up on deboostrap. :)
[09:21] <echo> Whats the difference in Apache and Apache2?
[09:21] <bob2> echo: one is maintained and supported in ubuntu, one is not
[09:21] <Xenguy> echo: the former is a previous version
[09:22] <tekeo> bob2: how long do you think it will take before a stable driver is released?
[09:22] <rabeldable> tekeo: you can always go to ##kernelnewbies or #kernel
[09:22] <echo> Which one does ubuntu support?
[09:22] <ThomasM> apache2
[09:22] <bob2> tekeo: it has been several years now
[09:22] <bob2> echo: apache2
[09:22] <echo> thx
[09:23] <johnnybezak> NoUse: breezy
[09:23] <tekeo> bob2: well thanks anyway ;)
[09:23] <bob2> tekeo: why can't you use ndiswrapper?
[09:23] <keeb> heya guys
[09:23] <keeb> small problem it seems
[09:23] <tekeo> bob2: never used it
[09:23] <tekeo> bob2: I can possibly use it
[09:23] <keeb> i got mysql installed correctly and it's configured correctly with php5
[09:23] <keeb> but i can't seem to login
[09:23] <keeb> using my name/pass
[09:23] <NoUse> johnnybezak, what error do you get when you click the "unmount" open in nautilus?
[09:24] <bob2> tekeo: um
[09:24] <rabeldable> keeb: is mysql running?
[09:24] <keeb> rabeldable, yes
[09:24] <keeb> phpinfo shows that everything is set up correctly
[09:24] <johnnybezak> NoUse: im just gonna check
[09:24] <bob2> tekeo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[09:24] <rabeldable> keeb: what version of mysql?
[09:24] <ThomasM> keeb: Can you login from the console?
[09:24] <keeb> ah, guys
[09:24] <keeb> i know why.
[09:25] <keeb> i was trying to login as keeb, my bash login
[09:25] <keeb> as soon as i logged in as root/nopass
[09:25] <keeb> it went through fine
[09:25] <keeb> thanks for brainstorming with me ;)
[09:25] <rabeldable> keeb: nopass is a bad thing
[09:25] <bob2> tekeo: btw, asking, I guess, functional questions can lead to quicker help; if you'd come in and said "How can I make my broadcom wireless card work?", you could have had it working by now ;)
[09:26] <keeb> of course, it just got installed, rabeldable
[09:26] <tekeo> bob2: probably
[09:26] <keeb> like 3 mins ago. d;] 
[09:26] <kelbizzle> Does anyone know why xmms will freeze up after trying to play a shoutcast stream from streamtuner
[09:26] <rabeldable> keeb: i'm glad you know :)
[09:26] <rabeldable> kelbizzle: network problems
[09:27] <tekeo> bob2: this was the one I was thinking of, http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
[09:27] <mlalkaka> trappist, the dosdevices solution worked. i created a symlink called e: that pointed to /tmp/swat3-1. when it asked for cd2, i deleted the symlink and created e: again, except i made it point to /tmp/swat3-2 (i guess i could have made it point to /media/cdrom0 for one of the cd's and it still would have worked. that way, i would only have to copy one cd instead of two). i ran the installation program as `wine e:\INSTALL.EXE`
[09:27] <kelbizzle> it downloads and allbut just doesnt play.
[09:27] <johnnybezak> kelbizzle: try running xmms from the cli, and see what it outputs when it hangs
[09:28] <kelbizzle> how do I do the feed from the cli
[09:28] <rabeldable> kelbizzle: just run xmms, it will load the gui app
[09:28] <tekeo> bob2: thanks and have a nice time
[09:28] <rabeldable> kelbizzle: from CLI : xmms
[09:28] <johnnybezak> kelbizzle: type xmms in gnome-terminal
[09:28] <Fritz> thanks bob2, I got myself so stuck on thinking it wasn't working, I didn't even try applying a config to it
[09:29] <rabeldable> kelbizzle: if it fails or hangs messages will be in the gnome-terminal
[09:30] <kelbizzle> wheres the gnome terminal
[09:31] <rob_p> kelbizzle:  /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
[09:31] <Madpilot> kelbizzle: Applications menu - Accessories - Terminal
[09:31] <HappyFool> in front of the gnome in canonical hq
[09:32] <johnnybezak> NoUse: from nautilus, unable to eject media. eject: unable to eject, last error: invalid argument
[09:32] <bob2> hm, someone should buy a garden gnome for the canonical hq
[09:32] <bob2> now it's not just mark's lounge room
[09:32] <Xenguy> johnnybezak: dunno - tried 'eject' from the commandline?
[09:33] <johnnybezak> Xenguy: yeah, it corrupts the iPod library and makes it read only
[09:33] <Xenguy> lovely
[09:34] <NoUse> johnnybezak, yeah you should report that, in the mean time you can use the umount /media/ipod or whatever to unmount it first
[09:34] <DaBass> bob2 i did /usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch i386 breezy /target ftp://10.0.0.2 it has exited with usage: /usr/lib/debootstrap/pkgdetails pkg mirror packages_file
[09:34] <kelbizzle> nothing happend when i typed xmms
[09:34] <NoUse> johnnybezak, then you should be able to eject no prob
[09:35] <rabeldable> kelbizzle: try xmms -m
[09:35] <ThomasM> NoUse: Unless something has a file open from the iPod.
[09:35] <NoUse> ThomasM, well yeah
[09:35] <kelbizzle> nothing
[09:35] <ThomasM> NoUse: Might want to include an 'lsof' caveat.
[09:36] <johnnybezak> NoUse: hmm yeah this is preetty wierd though, it shouldn't be happening
[09:36] <DaBass> THomasM i did /usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch i386 breezy /target ftp://10.0.0.2 it has exited with usage: /usr/lib/debootstrap/pkgdetails pkg mirror packages_file
[09:37] <johnnybezak> kelbizzle: do you get the same problems with Beep? If not, might be worth just using Beep they're identical anyway
[09:37] <kelbizzle> i dont have beep installed
[09:37] <ThomasM> DaBass: Yes. I saw it the first time. No need to parrot. BTW, when you address messages to a specific person, people assume you're talking just to them. Just because somebody specific helped you 10-30 minutes ago doesn't mean somebody else can't/won't help.
[09:38] <echo> I'm trying to create an account for pftpd and I recieve File Creation Faile "No such file or directory".
[09:38] <johnnybezak> kelbizzle: sudo apt-get install beep-media-player :) it's basically xmms, built on gtk2
[09:38] <bob2> echo: ...when using adduser?
[09:38] <echo> no, through gui.
[09:38] <NoUse> johnnybezak, there seem to be some decent threads on ubuntuforums pertaining to this but yeah file a bug
[09:39] <dylan_> how do i speed up page printing time in ubuntu?
[09:39] <kelbizzle> will the streams open automatically from streamtuner
[09:39] <kelbizzle> or will I have to change something
[09:40] <DaBass> THomasM see nobody wants/will
[09:40] <johnnybezak> NoUse: ok, to this in particular?
[09:40] <NoUse> johnnybezak, yeah
[09:40] <kelbizzle> beep doesnt open for me.
[09:40] <johnnybezak> NoUse: I'll have a look
[09:41] <kelbizzle> I suck :-/
[09:41] <ThomasM> DaBass: A lot of that is because this stuff is fairly well documented. Nobody really feels like explaining to you something that's been explained over and over.
[09:41] <ThomasM> !debootstrap
[09:42] <organgrinder> alright, I have been having some issues -- a lot of things say 'as root user' for installs (cedega) however, there is no root user as far as I can tell. How do I go about doing these installs ='(
[09:42] <kelbizzle> I'm giving up for thenight
[09:42] <johnnybezak> NoUse: it's wierd, maybe there is something wrong with my iPod, I just reformatted it and it's still being wierd
[09:42] <Madpilot> organgrinder: with sudo
[09:42] <kelbizzle> night guys
[09:42] <Madpilot> !tell organgrinder about sudo
[09:42] <rob_p> kelbizzle:  Try, "killall xmms; xmms" and it will (hopefully) close any non-responsive xmms instances before trying to start a new one.
[09:42] <NoUse> johnnybezak, which generation ipod is it?
[09:42] <johnnybezak> its a 2g iPod mini
[09:42] <kelbizzle> ok
[09:42] <organgrinder> thanks
[09:42] <johnnybezak> NoUse: works fine on the gf's mac
[09:43] <NoUse> johnnybezak, of course it works on a mac :-)
[09:43] <echo> Is there a default user name and passwd for pftpd?
[09:43] <NoUse> johnnybezak, it could be that it's a very new ipod and that support is still iffy on Linux
[09:43] <NoUse> johnnybezak, mine is only a 15 GB gen 2 or 3
[09:43] <kelbizzle> ok it opens.
[09:43] <kelbizzle> Does the prebuffer thing
[09:43] <keeb> does anyone have an idea on a tool i should use with ubuntu/mysql for creating tables and stuff in a GUI?
[09:44] <kelbizzle> but doesnt play
[09:44] <johnnybezak> NoUse: yeah i'm sort of thinking out loud as to what the prob could be
[09:44] <kelbizzle> Now If I click play
[09:44] <kelbizzle> it will freeze up\
[09:44] <johnnybezak> NoUse: it's not *that* new though
[09:44] <rabeldable> kelbizzle: any messages in the terminal window?
[09:44] <kelbizzle> nope
[09:45] <ThomasM> keeb: Look into a package called 'mysql-admin'.
[09:45] <NoUse> johnnybezak, the nano came out only a few weeks before Breezy was released
[09:45] <rabeldable> kelbizzle: try to stream this http://64.202.98.51:6390
[09:45] <rabeldable> kelbizzle: I'm currently listening to that stream with no problems
[09:46] <rob_p> kelbizzle:  It's probably a configuration error or missing codec.  Anyway, you'll probably have to manually kill the process any time it does that, before trying to open a new one, until you get it figured out.
[09:46] <johnnybezak> NoUse: i've got a mini not a nano, did i say nano?
[09:47] <NoUse> johnnybezak, oh I'm sorry, not thinking
[09:47] <ThomasM> keeb: I also see something called 'mysql-navigator'.
[09:47] <NoUse> johnnybezak, yeah I'd file a report with as much info as you can
[09:48] <kelbizzle> yea it's probably a codec thing
[09:48] <DaBass> THoomaM neither the bot knows about it ;-)
[09:48] <kelbizzle> I still cant even play mp3's
[09:48] <kelbizzle> Thanks guys for all your help
[09:48] <kelbizzle> I'm going to bed.
[09:49] <ThomasM> DaBass: And if the bot doesn't know, it must be rare knowledge indeed, requiring arcane information not found on google.
[09:49] <dEbUn2> I don't believe it's a codec issue -- I had the same issue several months ago but can't for the life of me remember what I did to correct the problem
[09:50] <rabeldable> xmms installed for me without any extra steps...
[09:50] <rabeldable> now watching a dvd was more complicated
[09:50] <dEbUn2> indeed -- however, on one my installs, there was a bit of tweaking involved
[09:51] <rob_p> dEbUn2:  Probably wrong audio output plugin selected!  I was going to mention it to him but he left!
[09:51] <dEbUn2> I believe that's correct...
[09:51] <rob_p> dEbUn2:  I've seen that cause apparent lock-ups with xmms.
[09:52] <Stevman> okeeeh.
[09:52] <Stevman> help meeees
[09:52] <ghostpsalm> I am trying to install grub into the MBR from a chroot onto a SATA RAID, however I get this error message:
[09:52] <ghostpsalm> "/proc/devices: fopen failed: No such file or directory.
[09:52] <ghostpsalm>  Is device-mapper driver missing from kernel?".  Can anyone help me?
[09:52] <ghostpsalm> (oops)
[09:53] <ThomasM> ghostpsalm: You'll have to mount a /proc inside of the chroot.
[09:53] <agtnz> hi - whats a good image viewer for linux. has to show animated .gifs, too
[09:53] <ghostpsalm> ThomasM: It is mounted, 'mount' says so.
[09:53] <ThomasM> ghostpsalm: Inside the chroot?
[09:53] <echo> I cant creat a password file for pftpd, also i have anonymous enabled in the pftpd.conf but still cant connect
[09:53] <ghostpsalm> ThomasM: Yes.
[09:53] <Lathiat> ghostpsalm: from outside the chroot, mount -t proc proc /path/to/chroot/proc
[09:53] <Fritz> agtnz, are you running kde or gnome?
[09:53] <Stevman> can anyone help me dual booting Ubuntu and XP on a SATA Raid (or point me in a direction of a guide or two)...
[09:53] <keeb> thanks thomas
[09:53] <thoreauputic> gthumb , or commandline imagemagick ( animate)
[09:54] <Lathiat> ghostpsalm: also, it might be easier just to install from outside the chroot
[09:54] <[linner] > thoreauputic:  hi sweetie :)
[09:54] <Lathiat> ghostpsalm: look at -R to grub
[09:54] <agtnz> Fritz: xfce, but mostly gnome apps
[09:54] <thoreauputic> [linner] : hey - where have you been? :))
[09:54] <[linner] > working... got a new job. ;)
[09:54] <thoreauputic> ah
[09:55] <[linner] > i've been looking for you
[09:55] <[linner] > haven't seen you either in quite a while
[09:56] <Fritz> agtnz, most of the image viewers on my system are kde based, the only full featured non-kde one I have is thumber
[09:56] <agtnz> Fritz: thx :) i might google a bit
[09:57] <Fritz> there is a program called "eye of gnome" which is supposed to be very good, but I haven't used it personally
[09:57] <Xenguy> also gqview is worth a look
[09:59] <Stevman> anyone successfully dual booted XP and Ubuntu on a Sata Raid?
[09:59] <ghostpsalm> Lathiat/ThomasM:  Mounting proc outside chroot worked, now I get this error: 'ERROR: opening "/dev/mapper/via_cfdehjfb"' When I attempt to run dmraid.
[09:59] <ghostpsalm> Stevman: I am trying!
[10:00] <Lathiat> Stevman: youll find your sata raid is fakeraid which may be causign some issues
[10:00] <Stevman> ghostpsalm: cool. We'll trade progress when I get into it :p
[10:00] <Stevman> ^_^
[10:01] <holy_cow> hey guys, what drivers do i need to know about to recompile for usb support?
[10:01] <ghostpsalm> Lathiat:  I mounted /proc, and /sys from outside the chrooot, and now I am in it - the /proc/devices has gone, now DMRAID just does not make the RAID avaliable from /dev/mapper/ ?
[10:02] <holy_cow> every distro including sarge can see my usb port on a particular machine, and i don't think i have a choice but to consider doing something along those lines
[10:02] <ThomasM> holy_cow: The stock kernel should have USB support. What has you compiling your own?
[10:02] <holy_cow> this is debian/ubuntu, drivers are NOT built into the kernel
[10:03] <holy_cow> what do you mean what has me compiling on my own? is my question in a foreign language?
[10:03] <dEbUn2> ...
[10:04] <nomad111> is any1 familiar with bearshare
[10:04] <nomad111> are there any p2p software for ubuntu
[10:04] <holy_cow> you mean for stealing copyrighted material?
[10:04] <holy_cow> lol :)
[10:04] <nomad111> nope
[10:05] <ThomasM> holy_cow: I'm sorry. I was asking a perfectly legitimate question. Your comment before came one second before mine--as in, not even time to notice before I pressed enter. But now that you've gotten rude, you can find a way to fix it without any of my help.
[10:05] <holy_cow> there are torrent clients
[10:05] <nomad111> but isnt there anything like shareaza
[10:05] <nomad111> or kazaa
[10:05] <ThomasM> "God, let's all be little asses to the people trying to help, that'll make them really want to keep it up."
[10:05] <holy_cow> ThomasM, the general rule is that when people ask someone to repeat their question it means no help is forthcoming anyway for a whole number of reasons
[10:06] <holy_cow> i've rarely been surprised
[10:06] <holy_cow> ThomasM, no all i ask is that you read, it's that simple
[10:06] <ThomasM> holy_cow: I was asking the "why" of your question, as your question didn't actually specify why you had a problem with standard support.
[10:06] <holy_cow> actually it did, see, now i'm having to explain the original post
[10:06] <NoUse> !p2p
[10:06] <ubotu> from memory, p2p is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo
[10:06] <ThomasM> holy_cow: Go find a quiet corner and fuck yourself, seriously.
[10:07] <Stevman> what are you talking about
[10:07] <Stevman> there is amule
[10:07] <Stevman> there is limewire
[10:07] <dEbUn2> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[10:07] <Stevman> there is a bunch of dc++ clients
[10:07] <Stevman> 8are
[10:07] <NoUse> !ubuntuguide
[10:07] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide is the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[10:07] <Stevman> *are
[10:08] <Seveas> dEbUn2, stay as far away from ubuntuguide as you can
[10:10] <dEbUn2> Seveas: thanks! heh -- I've got my own canabalized version that I still reference from time to time.. But yes, it probably should just go away
[10:10] <AlexGanache> I am going to...
[10:10] <Stevman> brb... gotta restart
[10:10] <locomorto> hmm, I find that using alien on the rpm files and installing the debs works really well
[10:10] <AlexGanache> How is everyone?
[10:10] <locomorto> And you get the menu enteries as well
[10:10] <locomorto> good AlexGanache
[10:10] <dEbUn2> alien is nice!~
[10:10] <johnnybezak> guys i've got a bunch of directories and in those directories is a sub directory of thumbnails and i want to get rid of them. i tried to use the gnome "find" and then remove them, but it won't let me because they're not empty. I don't know how to do this from the cli, without writing a script. anyone got any ideas?
[10:10] <Seveas> locomorto, depends completely on the quality of the .deb files
[10:11] <AlexGanache> Um, can anyone tell me why my computer will just stop during certain phases of installation?
[10:11] <locomorto> Seveas: I was referring to the example of limewire
[10:11] <Seveas> johnnybezak, rm -rf map/
[10:11] <Seveas> locomorto, ah ok :)
[10:11] <drcode> any one know how can I limit outgoing bandwith in postfix ?
[10:11] <johnnybezak> @Seveas: whats the map/ ?
[10:11] <drcode> it eat all my bandwith
[10:11] <Seveas> the folder you want to delete
[10:11] <dEbUn2> the almighty -rf argument! ;)
[10:11] <ghostpsalm> Is anyone familiar with DMRAID?
[10:12] <Seveas> (sorry, just awake and I'm in half-dutch-half-english mode =))
[10:12] <johnnybezak> dEbUn2: that's why i'm being careful before i just put it in their
[10:12] <johnnybezak> @Seveas: so is just type rm -rf thumbs/ ?
[10:12] <AlexGanache> Anyone?
[10:12] <Seveas> yeah
[10:12] <Seveas> AlexGanache, because it is lazy
[10:13] <johnnybezak> AlexGanache: when does it stop? what do you mean stop?
[10:13] <AlexGanache> lol
[10:13] <rabeldable> drcode: edit the master.cf file to limit outbound and inbound messages
[10:13] <Seveas> (not giving info means not getting answers since we cannot possiblt know anything about it)
[10:13] <AlexGanache> It just... freezes... longer than ten minutes at either Partitioning or installing base system
[10:13] <AlexGanache> The CPU thinking light is on but nothing is happening
[10:13] <drcode> thanx
[10:14] <drcode> I Will check it out
[10:14] <anavim> AlexGanache, and then what... does it continue?
[10:14] <trappist> AlexGanache: does it ever recover?
[10:14] <Seveas> AlexGanache, partitioning is a step with little visible activity if you repartition
[10:14] <Seveas> installing base ssytem might get slow on an old machine
[10:14] <johnnybezak> @Seveas: ten minutes is  a while though
[10:14] <Seveas> so some system specs may help :)
[10:14] <AlexGanache> I have gotten it through partitioning and it goes fast.
[10:14] <anavim> AlexGanache, so do you have a problem you need to solve, or are you just curious?
[10:15] <tenzin> hi
[10:15] <trappist> AlexGanache: I had a box once that did that.  or rather, I had a scanner once that generated so much bogus kernel message traffic that it caused it on any box it was connected to.
[10:15] <johnnybezak> hey
[10:15] <drcode> rabeldable: where what I line I Need to change?
[10:15] <AlexGanache> Well, I dont know!  It seems that something is amiss that would cause it to freeze or something.
[10:15] <AlexGanache> Should I just go to bed and let in run.
[10:16] <anavim> AlexGanache, so how long has it been sitting on a step, and what step is it on?  what's the processor speed?
[10:16] <trappist> AlexGanache: I would try booting to a livecd and partitioning from there and watching dmesg if it behaves similarly
[10:16] <johnnybezak> AlexGanache: proabably safest
[10:16] <DaBass> does ubuntu have basedebs.tar and where can i download it from
[10:17] <AlexGanache> ok, It is at 9% partitioning right now and isnt doing anything.
[10:17] <AlexGanache> 600MHZ lol old I know.
[10:17] <anavim> AlexGanache, for how long?
[10:17] <AlexGanache> hmm it has been about.. 3 minutes so far.
[10:18] <dEbUn2> how big is the drive?
[10:18] <anavim> AlexGanache, doesn't seem like a problem.. yet
[10:18] <rabeldable> drcode: http://www.postfix.org/rate.html
[10:18] <drcode> thanx
[10:18] <AlexGanache> the drive is 10 GB
[10:18] <anavim> AlexGanache, personally, I would give it another 15 minutes before I get worried
[10:19] <anavim> AlexGanache, with it indicating 9%, that is
[10:19] <AlexGanache> It goes from partitioning to installing on its own right?
[10:19] <Seveas> DaBass, what would be in basedebs.tar?
[10:19] <Seveas> AlexGanache, yes
[10:19] <AlexGanache> hmm then perhaps I will just go to bed.
[10:20] <Seveas> g'night :)
[10:20] <AlexGanache> ill be back tomorrow to complain some more :)
[10:20] <Seveas> :)
[10:21] <dEbUn2> we're here to help.... Errr, at least try!
[10:21] <AlexGanache> lol ill see you all soon
[10:21] <ghostpsalm> root@ubuntu:/# dmraid -ay -v
[10:21] <ghostpsalm>    RAID set "via_cfdehjfb" already active
[10:21] <ghostpsalm> INFO: Activating stripe RAID set "via_cfdehjfb   "
[10:21] <ghostpsalm> ERROR: opening "/dev/mapper/via_cfdehjfb"
[10:21] <ghostpsalm> Can anyone help with this?
[10:21] <Seveas> no
[10:22] <Seveas> you should NEVER paste in here
[10:22] <johnnybezak> @Seveas: rm -rf thumbs/ doesn't work there still there, I want it to be able to go through all the directories from the top directory and recursively go through hunt out the thumbs directories and delete them do you get me?
[10:22] <ghostpsalm> Oh... sorry.
[10:22] <DaBass> Seveas I am confused a little bit, debootstrap doest work for me and i dont know why
[10:23] <ghostpsalm> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4777   -   ?
[10:23] <HappyFool> johnnybezak: this might work, but leave off the -exec bit to test it first:   find -type d -name 'thumbs' -exec rm -rf '{}' ';'
[10:24] <johnnybezak> HappyFool: i knew there was a bash guru hiding here somewhere
[10:24] <DaBass> seveas as i was studying debootstrap howto for debian i found it needed that file at least as far as i undertod it
[10:24] <Seveas> DaBass, debootstrap get things of the internet
[10:24] <Seveas> off*
[10:25] <Seveas> base.tar.gz is something pbuilder creates using bootstrap, maybe you got confused with that?
[10:25] <DaBass> seveas yes but it is not getting them for for me and there was a way to give it a file
[10:26] <Seveas> dabaR, check your debootstrap config :)
[10:26] <ajeet> Hello, anyone know why the libgl-mesa-dri files aren't where they are supposed to be? I'm doing a software update and 3 files won't do, because they can't be found?!
[10:26] <ghostpsalm> debbotstrap --arch ARCH breezy /installdir file:/media/cdrom
[10:26] <johnnybezak> HappyFool: perfect man that's exactly what I was looking for :)
[10:27] <HappyFool> johnnybezak: np. 'find' is pretty cool
[10:27] <AlexGanache> Woo! It moved on!  Since "A watched pot never boils", I am going to bed before my pot freaks out.
[10:27] <Seveas> AlexGanache, yeah, pot that freaks out sucks ;)
[10:27] <AlexGanache> lol
[10:27] <johnnybezak> HappyFool: i agree :)
[10:27] <anavim> AlexGanache, please don't hold your breath!  ;)
[10:28] <AlexGanache> ooo 22%
[10:28] <DaBass> dhodtpsalm that's nice but i don't have cdrom i am connected to internet and every time i try to do debootstrap it exits with usage: pkg mirror packagefile ...
[10:28] <AlexGanache> Anyway I really am going now.  be back in a few hours.
[10:29] <ghostpsalm> It may seema silly question; have you run apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade?
[10:30] <DaBass> seveas where is that config
[10:30] <AlexGanache> Um I think it has died on "extracting python2-4minimal"
[10:30] <AlexGanache> Nvm
[10:32] <jrsims> I have a question about apt-get - does it leave behind artifacts when I uninstall software?
[10:33] <locomorto> jrsims: if you mean used packages, then yes
[10:33] <locomorto> jrsims: if you want to get around that, use aptitude
[10:33] <Colinmcd> hey everyone
[10:33] <locomorto> jrsims: same commands
[10:33] <locomorto> jrsims: but will remove unused packages
[10:34] <jrsims> locomorto: so apt doesn't remove unused packages - just installs them?
[10:34] <locomorto> Well you can unistall packages, but lets say
[10:34] <Colinmcd> I have a friend that has removed the key bindings to the down key he can't use the down key at all. Any help he is using gnome
[10:34] <locomorto> I install lighttpd (a server like apache)
[10:35] <locomorto> It depends on say liblighttpd
[10:35] <locomorto> if I do a sudo apt-get remove lighttpd
[10:35] <locomorto> then liblighttpd will stay
[10:35] <Seveas> yup
[10:35] <Seveas> but debfoster will clean that :)
[10:35] <munzir> hi gurus! I just upgraded my kernel in  my remote server but what's the best way to reboot that new kernel? remove the old and reboot?
[10:35] <Seveas> and in the future apt too
[10:35] <Seveas> munzir, no, reboot and *then* remove the old
[10:35] <jrsims> cool
[10:35] <locomorto> I I did that with aptitude, then it would say, REMOVING UNUSED PACKAGES :liblighttpd
[10:36] <ghostpsalm> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4777  -  Is anyone able to help?
[10:36] <locomorto> and prompt you
[10:36] <munzir> Seveas: but when I reboot would the new kernel be choosen by default?
[10:36] <jrsims> aptitude is not debian native like apt, right?
[10:36] <Seveas> munzir, yes
[10:36] <Seveas> jrsims, it is
[10:36] <jrsims> Seveas: ok. so it's part of debian's install/uninstall suite
[10:36] <jrsims> Seveas: er, programs
[10:36] <munzir> Seveas: ok thanks a lot
[10:38] <Colinmcd> anyone know about key bindings and how to rebind the down arrow on the keyboard
[10:39] <Seveas> Colinmcd, what on earth do you want to rebind it to?!?
[10:40] <anavim> Colinmcd, there are several ways to rebind key commands
[10:40] <Colinmcd> I want to bind it back to down arrow
[10:40] <Seveas> Colinmcd, hehe
[10:40] <Seveas> system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[10:40] <Colinmcd> yea
[10:41] <Colinmcd> and where to from there
[10:41] <g00r0n> my friends who have macs have a desktop background that changes colors constantly, is there a program/etc. available for ubuntu which does the same?
[10:41] <Seveas> find the keybinding with the downarrow (use only the mouse)
[10:41] <Seveas> and reset that one
[10:42] <atrolinux> anybody willing to help me get my wireless nic to work?
[10:42] <anavim> !anyone
[10:42] <Colinmcd> my mate is wondering where it is? is it in the desktop section or another section?
[10:42] <ubotu> anyone is probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[10:42] <Seveas> g00r0n, yes
[10:43] <g00r0n> Seveas: which program?
[10:43] <Seveas> !no anyone is <reply> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[10:43] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[10:43] <Seveas> g00r0n, can't remember the name, sorry...
[10:44] <Jinjon> seveas iv already checked & its not there
[10:44] <Jinjon> that is y im asking
[10:44] <munzir> Seveas: with dual-core xeon ( which I guess one chip) should I use kernel or kernel-smp?
[10:45] <Colinmcd> Jinjon is asking about the down arrow keybinding
[10:45] <Jinjon> can u help me
[10:45] <atrolinux> *rewording without the use of anyone*  I have a laptop with a built in wireless card.  I can't get the card to work with ubuntu.  Is there an easy way to get it to work?  How about a hard way?
[10:46] <Alex> atrolinux: Find out if it's supported by ndiswrapper, if it is, follow the ubar easy howto on the ndiswrapper wiki
[10:46] <Colinmcd> atrolinux> try http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29046.html
[10:47] <Colinmcd> or this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-5529.html try a ifconfig and tell us what happens. (BTW I don't really know but looking through forums is a good way to find out
[10:50] <ekceh> I've a resolution problem on macintosh powerbook. It seems like I don't use the right driver. I've checked xorg.0.log. It says: (II) RADEON(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range)
[10:50] <atrolinux> Thanks for the links guys.  I've tried ndiswrapper to no avail (probably because I'm probably not finding the right windows driver anyway).  I've made a post on the forums but thought some live help might be better.  I'll read through those links and see if I find anything I haven't tried yet.
[10:52] <retrix> atrolinux: if you can track down the right drivers, you might want to try ndisgtk (apt-get install ndisgtk) ... its a gui i wrote that may help you get set up
[10:53] <anavim> ekceh, hsync isn't the resolution, it's the sync rate
[10:53] <ulle> my firefox takes long times to load pages but opera works fine when I'm using windows on the same computer any ideas how to fix it?
[10:53] <anavim> ekceh, you should try changing the sync rate
[10:53] <ekceh> ok
[10:53] <atrolinux> I've also been using ndisgtk.  It tells me the hardware isn't present for the drivers I've found that are supposed to work.
[10:54] <Yannick_R> hello, I compiled a 2.6.14 vanilla kernel, and when I use it the automount (usbkeys, cdrom) doesn't work, any of you could help me ?
[10:55] <ekceh> can't find sync rate in xorg.conf. Is this the right place to look?
[10:56] <ulle> my firefox takes long times to load pages but opera works fine when I'm using windows on the same computer any ideas how to fix it?
[10:56] <anavim> ekceh, system-> preferences-> screen resolution -> refresh rate
[10:57] <noname> hello peeps
[10:57] <ekceh> the only option there is 60 Hz.
[10:57] <Madpilot> ulle: install Opera in Ubuntu?
[10:57] <Madpilot> !tell ulle about opera
[10:57] <HappyFool> ulle: in    about:config,  disable network.dns.disableIPv6
[10:58] <HappyFool> there are some other performance hints, but i haven't set those
[10:58] <retrix> atrolinux: dont take the hardware present info as gospel ... ndiswrapper may not find the hardware but it can still work in some instances
[10:59] <murray> hi ... does anyone know much about /etc/acpi/hibernate.pl ?
[10:59] <murray> when I run it, the computer shuts down (slowly)
[10:59] <murray> and then fails to restart properly : it hangs while booting requiring a power cycle
[11:00] <raphink> hibernation is quiet hard to get to work
[11:00] <Steil> heh does anyone know if theres a way to change around the xchat-gnome UI? (e.g. move the server and nick lists to the right of the screen)
[11:00] <murray> swsusp: FATAL:
[11:00] <murray> cannot find swap device, try swapon -a!
[11:00] <murray> but swap does exist
[11:00] <Corrupter> how do i make a boot disk?
[11:00] <murray> and I've got resume=/dev/hda2 (aka swap) in the grub menu.lst
[11:01] <murray> Corrupter : do you need it to install, or to fix a system?
[11:01] <murray> cause if the latter, any old live-cd will do
[11:01] <murray> you can boot with that, mount your disks and tinker
[11:01] <Corrupter> install
[11:01] <Corrupter> i have an ISO, just no CD burner :-(
[11:01] <murray> ahhh...
[11:02] <Corrupter> i is poor...
[11:03] <murray> my suggestion would be to get a cd in the post
[11:04] <murray> or ask your local lug if you have one near by
[11:04] <pppoe_dude> hi. when using pop3 e-mail without SSL or secure authentication, is my password sent as clear text?
[11:05] <Corrupter> any idea if ubuntu works good with comcast cable?
[11:05] <appleman> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4777  -  Is anyone able to help?
[11:05] <rob_p> pppoe_dude:  Yes.
[11:05] <Corrupter> <--- had mucho problems with other versions and the same ISP
[11:06] <murray> Corrupter: http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/?p=71
[11:06] <pppoe_dude> rob_p, and there's no way around it if the server doesnt support ssl/secure authentication?
[11:06] <rob_p> pppoe_dude:  Afraid not!
[11:06] <pppoe_dude> ok
[11:07] <smiley> hi all
[11:07] <murray> pppoe_dude: regularly changing your password :)
[11:07] <smiley> how to use bittorrrent
[11:07] <murray> smiley: google it
[11:07] <smiley> and what location do i have to open at the beggining
[11:08] <rob_p> pppoe_dude:  If you own the server, you could setup a ssh tunnel to it.  I've done that to keep things secure for otherwise clear-text stuff.
[11:09] <Corrupter> anyone know if Comcast cable works with ubuntu?
[11:09] <atrolinux> I know mediacom cable does.  I can't imagine why comcast wouldn't
[11:10] <Corrupter> comcast is kind of... retarded...
[11:10] <noname> hello everyone
[11:10] <anavim> Corrupter, what, you mean the installer?
[11:10] <noname> can anyone help me how to install yahoo messenger in ubuntu?
[11:10] <Corrupter> i mean i don't have a CD burner and i need to install ubuntu
[11:11] <anavim> noname, try gaim
[11:11] <Corrupter> i have the ISO
[11:11] <Corrupter> gaim... i love gaim, always use gaim! i use gaim on windows
[11:11] <noname> what gaim anavin?
[11:11] <anavim> noname, it's a free instant messenger client for ubuntu
[11:11] <Corrupter> without the ads or spam or... any of that other annoying AIM stuff
[11:12] <anavim> Corrupter, comcast is my dsp, it works fine
[11:12] <noname> oki guys ill try to check that now
[11:12] <Corrupter> sweet
[11:12] <noname> tnx fo helping
[11:12] <Corrupter> anyways, any idea for how to install ubuntu without a CD burner?
[11:13] <lillpelle> Corrupter: you can order CD for free from the home page, get it by mail and install from CD (if you have CD)
[11:13] <atrolinux> Corrupter, shipit will send you free cds.  Or you could have a friend burn it?  As far as installing it from the hard drive with an ISO, I don't know.
[11:13] <Corrupter> <-- no patience
[11:13] <anavim> Corrupter, linux from scratch and then convert it to ubuntu... it'll take you a few weeks/months to read through the docs  :(
[11:14] <Corrupter> alright
[11:14] <Corrupter> well, geuss i'll do it the cheater way...
[11:14] <lillpelle> is it not possible to install from floppy+net?
[11:14] <Corrupter> go buy a CD burner from wal-mart, burn it, then take it back and get a refund
[11:15] <atrolinux> yeah, I hate it when Walmart sells you cd burners that don't work...
[11:15] <atrolinux> I had a router that had a similar problem recently ;)
[11:15] <Corrupter> lol, i plan on it working only once
[11:15] <HappyFool> Corrupter: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[11:16] <Corrupter> sweet, thanks
[11:16] <Corrupter> ... "this page does not exist yet"
[11:16] <HappyFool> hmm
[11:16] <Madpilot> Corrupter: that URL works here...
[11:17] <appleman> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4777
[11:17] <atrolinux> okay, this is my forum post with more detail about my problem, for anybody who wants to help me further: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=505772
[11:17] <Corrupter> like i said, i'll buy a CD burner and take it back
[11:20] <anavim> oo, installation from usb drive looks cool  :)
[11:20] <deFrysk> !gpgerr
[11:20] <ubotu> methinks gpgerr is If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*
[11:21] <DrSpin> what do I do if I killed apt
[11:21] <DrSpin> sudo: apt-get: command not found
[11:21] <raphink> ?
[11:22] <DrSpin> I was trying to downgrade to GCC 3.4 (oops) and it started uninstalling things -- I cancelled out of it and now apt is broken
[11:22] <HappyFool> DrSpin: doh
[11:22] <DrSpin> indeed
[11:22] <DrSpin> LOL
[11:22] <HappyFool> DrSpin: how about aptitude ?
[11:22] <atrolinux> DrSpin, apt-get install apt-get
[11:22] <raphink> haha
[11:22] <raphink> DrSpin: you can find the deb online and install it
[11:22] <raphink> ;)
[11:22] <DrSpin> LOL --- tried that ;)
[11:22] <atrolinux> hehe
[11:22] <anavim> Corrupter, oh, my mistake. you can install directly from windows:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromWindows
[11:22] <Rubin> DrSpin: do you have dpkg?
[11:22] <DrSpin> yes thankfully :)
[11:23] <HappyFool> i have gcc-3.4 and normal 'gcc' (4.0) living together happily; the install was fairly simple
[11:23] <Rubin> yeah. wget the .deb and use dpkg -i to install it
[11:25] <DrSpin> HappyFool: I'm just trying to get vmware to compile the kernel module and never set the CC variable so it wasn't working -- :S
[11:25] <DrSpin> just wasn't paying attention
[11:26] <anavim> Rubin, yeah, but how about making a fat binary from gcc3 and gcc4?
[11:26] <ColD_7> how can i open an program cd in ubuntu?
[11:27] <klepas> moin moin
[11:27] <ColD_7> it can be opened in windows but not ubuntu
[11:27] <klepas> my cds have arrived. wohoo.
[11:27] <klepas> http://wombat.nuxified.com/files/pcdv0005.jpg
[11:28] <HappyFool> ColD_7: what CD is it? and what do you want to happen?
[11:29] <ColD_7> HappyFool, it is my education cd, and i want it to start
[11:29] <ColD_7> it is an autostart cd in windows
[11:29] <sazwerx> how to start gdesklets automatically when my computer started and without the "manage desklets" window open?
[11:29] <HappyFool> ColD_7: if it is written for windows, there's a strong possibility it won't work in linux
[11:30] <ColD_7> HappyFool, thanks
[11:30] <klepas> ColD_7: the autostart is a windows application
[11:30] <HappyFool> ColD_7: you should see a CD icon on your desktop -- you can double-click that to explore the contents of the CD
[11:30] <Madpilot> ColD_7: it should show up in the file manager, though
[11:30] <klepas> ColD_7: most likely an exe file
[11:30] <DrSpin> wget http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.6.40.1ubuntu9_i386.deb
[11:30] <HappyFool> ColD_7: if it has images/HTML or whatever, you can at least see those
[11:30] <Liwyn> hi
[11:30] <DrSpin> the two newer versions wouldn't work :S
[11:30] <DrSpin> dependency issues
[11:30] <DrSpin> but I got it working - thanks :)
[11:30] <Liwyn> can someone help me?
[11:31] <raphink> what's your pb Liwyn ?
[11:31] <ColD_7> thanks
[11:31] <Liwyn> raphink: I'm trying to install the ipw2200 wireless network drivers
[11:32] <crimsun> Liwyn: they already exist
[11:32] <Liwyn> Yes, but I was to upgrade them to 1.0.0
[11:32] <crimsun> Liwyn: 1.0.6 is in Breezy
[11:33] <Liwyn> Okey
[11:33] <Liwyn> but a question... umm...
[11:33] <Liwyn> why can't I use the command make ?
[11:33] <ghostpsalm> Device-Mapper utilities, package name in Ubuntu?
[11:34] <crimsun> !info dmraid
[11:35] <ubotu> dmraid: (tool to manage some hardware (S)ATA raid controllers), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.9.9+1.0.0.rc9-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 428 kB
[11:35] <Liwyn> guess I have to reinstall then :P
[11:35] <Hobbsee> Liwyn: apt-get install build-essential
[11:35] <reter> hello
[11:35] <reter> anyone here?
[11:35] <crimsun> Liwyn: why would you need to reinstall?
[11:35] <Hobbsee> reter: plenty of people, around 587 currently :P
[11:36] <johnnybezak> i'm here
[11:36] <johnnybezak> lurking in the dark
[11:36] <igge> hello hello
[11:37] <reter> i need some help setting up alsa in my thinkpad 390... here is the website http://www.linux-laptop.net/hosted/Thinkpad390.html
[11:37] <Goshawk> do gpg uses rsa keys by default
[11:37] <Goshawk> ?
[11:37] <crimsun> Goshawk: no, elgamal
[11:37] <Goshawk> ops.. does gpg use rsa keys by default?
[11:37] <reter> according to the website i need OPL3SA2 in order for the sound to work on this laptop
[11:37] <Goshawk> "elgamal"?
[11:37] <reter> can anyone help me to set this up?
[11:37] <Liwyn> crimsun: maybe not thanks to Hobbsee
[11:37] <igge> someone here who would be kind enough to help me troubleshoot a bit? my problem is the the sound doesn't work.. it's just dead silent...
[11:38] <Hobbsee> Liwyn: did it owrk?
[11:38] <Hobbsee> igge: what type of soundcard?
[11:38] <Liwyn> Hobbsee: It's not finished executing yet
[11:38] <crimsun> reter: do you know your hardware information for that sound chipset?
[11:39] <crimsun> Goshawk: read the gnupg documentation at the very least
[11:39] <igge> Hobbsee: heh.. good question actually... dont't know.. how do I find out?
[11:39] <reter> crimsun, do you know what to do?
[11:39] <Goshawk> crimsun, ok understood thanks
[11:39] <Hobbsee> um
[11:39] <igge> Hobbsee: it is an the motherboard
[11:39] <reter> crimsun, what info do i meed to know?
[11:39] <Liwyn> Hobbsee: Well, I read some things on the ubuntu site and so after several d/cs I decided to try to update :)
[11:39] <crimsun> reter: you need to know the port, dma1, dma2, and irq info
[11:39] <Liwyn> but might have been another reason
[11:39] <Hobbsee> igge: check in alsamixer that everything's turned up, and then try muting headphone jack sense, and line jack sense
[11:40] <crimsun> reter: install isapnptools from universe and give me the output from ''pnpdump'' via http://paste.ubuntulinux.l
[11:40] <crimsun> reter: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl rather
[11:42] <antti> Hi, do enyone have ATI Radeon X300 SE and how can I make it work
[11:42] <Liwyn> Hobbsee: Do you know why I can't issue the make command? ;/
[11:43] <antti> my ubuntu is 5.10 (breezy), 64-bit PC
[11:43] <reter> how do i open isapnptools?
[11:43] <reter> is it in the gnome panel?
[11:43] <Hobbsee> Liwyn: have you tried it again, after installing build-essential?
[11:43] <anavim> Liwyn, is the make tool there?
[11:43] <reter> crimsun, how do i open isapnptools?
[11:43] <reter> crimsun, is it in the gnome panel?
[11:44] <Liwyn> ahh ok thanks Hobbsee, it was for that, sorry I'm just a bit untechnical female (:
[11:44] <Hobbsee> Liwyn: no problem...and good to see another woman using linux :P
[11:44] <Hobbsee> the guys get that one wrong too :P
[11:44] <igge> Hobsee: everything looks turned up.. this is really strange... everything worked ok before when I ran debian
[11:45] <Liwyn> Hobbsee: But then I ran into an error :(
[11:45] <crimsun> reter: use it from the command line
[11:45] <Hobbsee> Liwyn: paste the error to pastebin, but i'm not sure if i'll be able to solve it
[11:45] <igge> Hobbsee: what do you mean by "muting headphone jack sense, and line jack sense" ?
[11:46] <hawknig> I live in the dormitory of my university and I applied for internet they've given me a static ip a network subnet mask, the addresses of dns-servers and wins server. I did the connection settings in windows and it worked but on ubuntu I did the same connection settings using network-admin but I can't connect to internet...what may be the problem?
[11:46] <liable> igge: in alsamixer
[11:46] <reter> crimsun: how? do i enter isapnptools in the command line?
[11:46] <crimsun> reter: Applications> Accessories> Terminal
[11:46] <Lathiat> hawknig: did you disable and re-enable the interface afterwards?
[11:47] <antti> Hellow! Is there a way to make  ATI Radeon X300 SE work in ubuntu  5.10 (breezy), 64-bit PC
[11:47] <igge> liable: the command line program "alsamixer"? (haven't used it before.. )
[11:47] <reter> crimsum, i am there. what do i enter at the command line
[11:47] <hawknig> Lathiat: yeah many times... may there be smth that is blocking the network maybe? cause I experienced a likely prob in xp with norton and zonealarm turned off I couldn't connect to internet
[11:47] <liable> jygge: wtf are you asking about lilo if you use it and are comfortable with it?
[11:47] <Lathiat> hawknig: nope shouldn tbe
[11:48] <Lathiat> hawknig: if you run ifconfig, does it show your interface?
[11:48] <Lathiat> hawknig: did you get some details wrong?
[11:48] <liable> igge: just type ' sudo alsamixer' :)
[11:49] <hawknig> Lathiat: yeah it even says eth0 is connected
[11:49] <crimsun> reter: pnpdump
[11:49] <Liwyn> Hobbsee: I think it has to do with kernel headers..
[11:49] <Lathiat> hawknig: weird
[11:49] <Lathiat> hawknig: so what 'doesnt work'
[11:49] <Lathiat> hawknig: have you tried pinging the default gateway?
[11:49] <crimsun> reter: please don't message me in private.
[11:49] <hawknig> lathiat: well I can't connect to any site
[11:49] <Lathiat> hawknig: also make sure your configuring the right device i guess
[11:49] <reter> crimsum, no boards found it saids
[11:49] <Lathiat> hawknig: ok, well try a ping
[11:50] <Lathiat> hawknig: e.g. 'ping 202.92.213.228
[11:50] <Lathiat> hawknig: or, even better, ping the default gateway settings ip
[11:50] <thoreauputic> hi apokryphos :)
[11:50] <hawknig> lathiat: okie I'll try that
[11:50] <andi5> hawknig: you might try to "cat /etc/resolv.conf", maybe it does not print your dns servers correctly - try to "ping www.google.com" too :)
[11:50] <Lathiat> hawknig: if both of those work, it might be a dns issue
[11:50] <crimsun> reter: reboot, go into bios, and turn on "easyboot"/"quickboot", then try ''pnpdump'' again
[11:50] <apokryphos> hiya thoreauputic; how've ya been?
[11:50] <igge> liable: yep ok... so in here... Master is turned up, and PCM is turned up.. but i don't see where to do "muting headphone jack sense, and line jack sense"
[11:51] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: variable ;) How about you? iwas worried the thought police had got to you ;-)
[11:51] <reter> ok
[11:51] <ulaas> hi all! iwant to update my i386 breezy installation to amd64 in a way like dist-upgrade
[11:51] <Lathiat> igge: move over the headphone and line jack bits and hit 'm'
[11:51] <Lathiat> ulaas: You can't do that
[11:51] <ulaas> is this possible?
[11:51] <Lathiat> ulaas: You must do a new install
[11:51] <liable> igge: the second headphone and the second line ones.
[11:51] <ulaas> Lathiat, gurp
[11:52] <ulaas> Lathiat, then i am gonna live with k7 kernel
[11:52] <liable> igge: mute them by pressing <>
[11:53] <igge> hm still don't get which one.. sorry.. these are the ones that I have:  < Master >Master M  Master S   PCM    Surround  Surround  Center     LFE      Line      CD       Mic    Mic Boos  Mic Sele  Phone   PC Speak    Aux    Mono Out  Channel  Downmix   Exchange Exchange External  Spread F<Stereo M>
[11:54] <liable> igge: hmm, what is that card? a sb or something?
[11:55] <igge> liable: from alsamixer...
[11:55] <igge> Card: Intel ICH6
[11:55] <igge> Chip: Analog Devices AD1986
[11:55] <atrolinux> Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :  SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not permitted. <--- what might cause this?
[11:55] <liable> igge: i jumped in late on the convo. (and prolly should have kept my mouth shut) just heard someone mention jack sense which was a sound problem i had on an older kernel once..
[11:56] <crimsun> igge: paste the output from ''amixer'' onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:57] <igge> liable: i see... well.. any help is much appreciated, the problem is that everything *sems* to work fine with the audio but it's just silent... like if the speakers where turned off (but they are not, i've checked 1000 times)
[11:57] <igge> crimsun: ok hang on
[11:58] <igge> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4781
[11:58] <liable> igge: sudo cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp
[11:59] <igge> liable: bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[12:00] <igge> (i'm running xmms that looks like it is playing things)
[12:00] <liable> igge: sudo lsof /dev/dsp
[12:00] <orzin> why cant I edit the mp3 tags in rythmbox
[12:00] <spudse> my ubuntu needs to be restarted every day... feels like I just installed win95
[12:00] <liable> hah
[12:00] <thoreauputic> igge: kill xmms and reset it to use the esd output plugin
[12:00] <igge> liable: xmms    9409 igge    9w   CHR   14,3      7739 /dev/dsp
[12:01] <igge> thoreauputic: hm ok... how do I do that?
[12:01] <apokryphos> orzin: your user doesn't have permission to edit the given files?
[12:01] <liable> igge: kill xmms
[12:01] <crimsun> igge: have you tried muting 'External Amplifier'?
[12:01] <reter> crimsun, i couldnt find easyboot or quickboot in the bios
[12:02] <orzin> apokryphos, yeah, i created them
[12:02] <thoreauputic> igge: killall xmms ;  then look in options- preferences in xmms and reset the output plugin
[12:02] <reter> crimsum, is there another way to look up the info
[12:02] <orzin> apokryphos, but i should really check this before i shout around....real sorry
[12:02] <crimsun> reter: perhaps the info you need is in the bios.
[12:02] <thoreauputic> igge: common issue - try other outputs if that doesn't work
[12:02] <crimsun> reter: otherwise you'll have to guess
[12:02] <apokryphos> orzin: if you right-click on the files, and then try editing the meta-data from there, is it possible?
[12:02] <orzin> apokryphos, but it was a problem for someone else as well...i really like rythmbox
[12:03] <orzin> apokryphos, thats my problem...
[12:03] <reter> crimsun, tell me or less where do i find port, dmal, dma2, and irq
[12:03] <orzin> apokryphos, it won tlet me change the text...i can select it
[12:03] <reter> crimsun, there are many kinds of ira irq
[12:03] <orzin> apokryphos, but i will get back to you in five...i must check the octals
[12:03] <apokryphos> orzin: if you right-click in Nautilus or whatever, I mean.
[12:03] <thoreauputic> orzin: install tagtool - it is nice for editing tags
[12:04] <orzin> apokryphos, ohhhh...that iwll check too...cheers back in five
[12:05] <igge> thoreauputic: you mean the plugin that says eSound Output Plugin... (libesdout.so) ?
[12:05] <thoreauputic> igge: yes
[12:05] <crimsun> reter: in the bios or where else?
[12:06] <appleman> Can anyone suggest why GRUB cannot find /boot/grub/stage1; though it does exist?
[12:06] <reter> which irq do i look for
[12:06] <thoreauputic> igge: from memory it's at the bottom
[12:06] <igge> thoreauputic: ok.. made on difference...
[12:06] <reter> crimsun, which port are you looking for
[12:06] <igge> :(
[12:06] <crimsun> reter: ...the one associated with your sound chipset
[12:06] <igge> and also... the sound doesn't work anywhere, not just in xmms
[12:07] <reter> ok
[12:07] <crimsun> igge: did you toggle the mixer element as I suggested?
[12:08] <igge> crimsun: yep tried that just now.. no luck... :(
[12:08] <crimsun> igge: is this a fresh Breezy install or a dist-upgrade from Hoary?
[12:09] <orzin> apokryphos, ok...ichaged the permission octals of whole lot. and the propeties dialog box has no edit fields
[12:09] <orzin> apokryphos, and when i mouse ove the mp3s i no longer get a preview
[12:10] <igge> crimsun: it is a fresh Breezy install.. however, my /home directory was on another partition and i kept it when installing (so maybe some config files was still there, i don't know)
[12:10] <crimsun> igge: cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:10] <appleman> Can anyone suggest why GRUB cannot find /boot/grub/stage1; though it does exist?
[12:10] <igge> btw, when I start xmms it says "Message: device: default" .. haven't seen it do that before...
[12:10] <igge> 0 [ICH6           ] : ICH4 - Intel ICH6
[12:10] <igge>                      Intel ICH6 with AD1986 at 0xdffffe00, irq 23
[12:11] <apokryphos> orzin: can you do an ls -lh in that directory, and show me one of the lines
[12:11] <crimsun> igge: "default..." what?
[12:11] <igge> heh.. just that... on a single line: Message: device: default
[12:12] <crimsun> ah, ok, that's normal.
[12:12] <igge> ok
[12:12] <crimsun> igge: aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[12:12] <gfish> whats the best program to put music on an ipod
[12:12] <apokryphos> gfish: amaroK :D
[12:13] <gfish> will i need to format my ipod before
[12:13] <igge> it says "Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/startup.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo" but doesn't play anything
[12:13] <gfish> because it was formatted within windows
[12:13] <crimsun> igge: does it hang, or does it return you to a prompt
[12:13] <apokryphos> gfish: no, I presume it's vfat
[12:14] <igge> crimsun i returns to the prompt (after about 10 sec)
[12:14] <crimsun> igge: ok, then something's muted that shouldn't be.
[12:14] <gfish> its what it was formatted in windows
[12:14] <gfish> but i dont know the system
[12:14] <orzin> apokryphos, i'll pastebin it for you
[12:14] <crimsun> igge: unmute the 'Exchange Front/Surround' element, then unmute the 'Surround' ones
[12:15] <igge> crimsun: ok... hang on...
[12:15] <reter> crimsun, i found dma1, dma2, and irq but not port
[12:16] <crimsun> reter: ok, and what are they?
[12:16] <igge> crimsun: ALRITE!!!! wohoo...
[12:16] <reter> crimsun, dma a: dma0 , dma b: dma1 , irq: irq5
[12:16] <igge> it worked..
[12:16] <crimsun> igge: excellent.
[12:17] <igge> crimsun: thanks alot
[12:17] <crimsun> np.
[12:18] <reter> crimsun, what do i do now?
[12:21] <gfish> how can i set up my gmail account
[12:21] <gfish> is there a notifier of some kind
[12:21] <igge> crimsun: hm this is wierd though... it doesn't react at all to "Master", instead it is "Master Surround".. do you know why that is?
[12:22] <reter> crimsun, did you get what i gave you?
[12:22] <crimsun> igge: of course. You switched Front and surround, remember?
[12:22] <crimsun> reter: yes, be patient.
[12:22] <Seveas> !themes
[12:23] <sazwerx> !help
[12:23] <igge> crimsun: hm ok... the "Exchange Front/Surround" thing?
[12:23] <crimsun> reter: in a Terminal, sudo modprobe snd-opl3sa2 irq=5 dma1=0 dma2=1 port=0x120 wss_port=0x530 fm_port=-1 midi_port=-1 isapnp=0
[12:23] <crimsun> igge: yes.
[12:23] <igge> crimsun: actually, even if i mute that thing it is Master Surround it reacts to
[12:24] <crimsun> igge: come again?
[12:24] <reter> uh oh problem crimsun
[12:25] <brownie17> i am having a few issues with the Gstreamer-Rhythmbox id3 tag editing feature. i understand it is use at your own risk, and experimental. when i run rhythmbox with the "--enable-tag-writing" flag, as dictated on "http://www.gnome.org/projects/rhythmbox/faq.html", it still just does not even try to allow me to edit tags. in the text box containing the tag if i press backspace, or another key, it just does nothing. anyone tried usi
[12:25] <brownie17> ng the tag editing feature?
[12:25] <reter> FATAL: Error inserting snd_opl3sa2 (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/isa/snd-opl3sa2.ko): No such device
[12:25] <reter> FATAL: Error running install command for snd_opl3sa2
[12:25] <reter> crimsun, FATAL: Error inserting snd_opl3sa2 (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/isa/snd-opl3sa2.ko): No such device
[12:25] <reter> FATAL: Error running install command for snd_opl3sa2
[12:25] <igge> if i in alsamixer turn off the "Exchange Front/Surround", it is still the "Master Surround" control that controls the volume...
[12:26] <igge> the "Master" doesn't affect it at all... and the control on the desktop does nothing either
[12:26] <crimsun> reter: you have to use the correct port parameter
[12:26] <crimsun> igge: set the Volume Control to use Master Surround, then
[12:27] <reter> crimsun, how do i find that out?
[12:27] <igge> crimsun: ah ok that worked
[12:27] <appleman> Where do i find grub.conf?
[12:27] <gfish> why do my mp3s only play in totem player
[12:28] <martinjh99> appleman /boot/menu
[12:28] <crimsun> reter: look in your bios
[12:28] <igge> crimsun: so thanks alot and so, everything works fine... but... still i'm a bit curious why it switched to start using surround all of a sudden
[12:28] <HappyFool> appleman: maybe /boot/grub/menu.lst is what you want
[12:28] <crimsun> igge: it's a chipset quirk
[12:28] <gfish> why cant i see anyone in my network
[12:29] <igge> crimsun: ok
[12:29] <brosioz> anyone known if exist anything to similar of dashboard of mac for kde on linux ?
[12:29] <lingoist> good morning! hm, I am wondering if I need/can use Nvidia drivers in order to set up dualmonitoring...my graphics adaper #1 is ATI Radeon 9800, #2 is Elsa Victory Erazor (quite old)
[12:30] <Astxist> brosioz, there is one floating around, but I'd be damned if I can remember it's name
[12:30] <brosioz> Astxist, :
[12:30] <appleman> martinjh99: /boot/grub/menu does not exist?  I am trying to 'make sure that the kernel line in your grub.conf file is referring to that partition'.
[12:30] <lingoist> I got already both screens working but they show the same
[12:30] <HappyFool> lingoist: at a guess you'll need ati drivers for the ati ;). not sure about the other card
[12:30] <HappyFool> appleman: it's /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:30] <HappyFool> !tell lingoist about ati
[12:31] <Astxist> ati is evil
[12:31] <Astxist> er I mean, nothing :)
[12:31] <lingoist> thanks HappyFool ... but do I really install these drivers...as I said: both screens are working but they just show the same
[12:32] <HappyFool> lingoist: i'm not sure about dual-screen
[12:32] <brownie17> Astxist, you are evil, boy! ATI is the only chink in Nvidia's dominating armour, the monopoly that it has over the grpahics card industry!
[12:32] <lingoist> hm, anyone else an idea what I have to do?
[12:32] <Astxist> brownie17, heh I was joking got an ati card myself ;p
[12:33] <gfish> how do u set up a shared printer
[12:33] <elwood> it's safe tu upgrade to breezy?
[12:33] <aeon17x> elwood: yeah... what are you worrying about?
[12:34] <lingoist> hm, xinerama is "on" but nothings happening...would really appreciate any hints to get this running
[12:34] <elwood> my uml will stop works? i will have problem with a lot  of crashing?
[12:34] <lingoist> just my desktop is mirrored to both screens
[12:35] <appleman> HappyFool:  I am still getting this error, 'Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no' - I read somewhere it is a kernel image problem...?
[12:35] <brownie17> Astxist, same
[12:35] <HappyFool> appleman: when do you see that error?
[12:35] <HappyFool> lingoist: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xineram&titlesearch=Titles
[12:36] <lingoist> HappyFool: thx, been there already :(
[12:36] <HappyFool> lingoist: ah, then i really am out of ideas, sorry.
[12:36] <appleman> HappyFool: In GRUB prompt, everything else (device, geometry, root) works fine, then when I try 'setup (hd0)' I get the error.
[12:36] <HappyFool> hmm
[12:36] <lingoist> HappyFool: I am too :( thx anyways
[12:37] <HappyFool> appleman: what 'root' command have you issued? and is there a /boot/grub/stage1 file ?
[12:38] <appleman> HappyFool: Yes, stage1 file exists.  Just 'root (hd0,1)'
[12:38] <brownie17> what is the command to untar a file?
[12:38] <brownie17> sorry, i mean to un GZ it
[12:38] <HappyFool> appleman: and where is / mounted?
[12:39] <zerokarmaleft> brownie17: tar zxvf foo.tar.gz
[12:39] <brownie17> someone HAS to know the command to unzip a file from terminal
[12:39] <brownie17> thankyou
[12:39] <zerokarmaleft> brownie17: or gunzip foo.gz if it's just a gzipped file
[12:39] <anavim> appleman, you are probably giving the wrong number for the partition when you are entering the root (0,0) command
[12:39] <appleman> HappyFool:  I have 'chroot /ubuntu' - where I am now.
[12:39] <anavim> root(0,x)...
[12:40] <HappyFool> appleman: um
[12:40] <HappyFool> appleman: this is a grub-recovery procedure?
[12:40] <HappyFool> appleman: from a live-cd?
[12:40] <appleman> HappyFool:  This is a, 'try to get fakeraid to work' procedure - to boot from it.
[12:41] <HappyFool> appleman: ok
[12:41] <ulle> I'm trying to set up java and it says I need superuser privilege but Im using the only user I have on this computer so what to do
[12:41] <HappyFool> appleman: you are irc'ing from the same machine?
[12:41] <anavim> !tell ulle about rootsudo
[12:42] <HappyFool> appleman: assuming so, can you paste the output of 'mount' and 'sudo fdisk -l' to paste.ubuntulinux.nl (don't paste here in #ubuntu, please)
[12:42] <appleman> HappyFool:  In the FakeRaidHowTo I was told to do a 'geometry' thing for my HDD, did that - root partition is on 'Partition num 1:'
[12:42] <hawknig> what will the name of ubuntu's next version be?
[12:42] <thoreauputic> Dapper Drake :)
[12:43] <brownie17> who feels like quickly running me through compiling a program?
[12:43] <HappyFool> appleman: hmm
[12:43] <HappyFool> appleman: i haven't worked with fakeraid before
[12:43] <deFrysk> brownie17, someone on #gentoo perhaps
[12:43] <thoreauputic> brownie17:  ./configure && make && make install
[12:43] <anavim> hawknig, 6.04
[12:43] <HappyFool> !tell brownie17 about compile
[12:43] <thoreauputic> brownie17: well, that was quick :P
[12:44] <brownie17> thoreauputic, sure was!
[12:44] <HappyFool> where in the world is .ma ?
[12:45] <deFrysk> maladives ?
[12:45] <brownie17>  thoreauputic i didn't even open the folder, i just guessed it needed compiling, but it doesn't. anyone know how to install "desklets" for rhythmbox
[12:46] <appleman> HappyFool:  I think the fake raid stuff is now kind of sorted; according to a gentoo howto - I need to rebuild/do something to the kernel image.
[12:46] <appleman> HappyFool: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4783
[12:46] <brownie17> HappyFool, there has a got to be a webstie that can tell you all those. check
[12:46] <HappyFool> brownie17: yeah, wikipedia
[12:46] <HappyFool> appleman: am looking now
[12:47] <brownie17> anyone ever  used "desktlets" for rhythmbox?
[12:47] <marcin> is dapper repository available somewhere?
[12:48] <peter__> hi
[12:48] <deFrysk> marcin, replace breezy with dapper and /topic
[12:48] <peter__> i have a problem with doom3, can anyone help me?
[12:48] <marcin> deFrysk: thanks
[12:48] <peter__> the problem is, doom 3 is starting, but i don't see the starting movie, and the menu don't appear
[12:49] <ke> Try a new gfx driver
[12:49] <peter__> just the "mars planet" is visible
[12:49] <peter__> Ati cart
[12:49] <lsuactiafner> what linux p2p app currently works through NAT and has the most content?
[12:49] <appleman> HappyFool: "This error is returned if the specified file name cannot be found, but everything else (like the disk/partition info) is OK.
[12:49] <appleman> Frequently, the error notes a missing kernel image file. Make sure that the file it is referring to exists on your boot partition."
[12:49] <ke> Try a new driver... Perhaps try the omega one
[12:49] <peter__> i'm running linux?
[12:49] <peter__> Ubuntu
[12:49] <HappyFool> appleman: is there a kernel image in /boot ?
[12:50] <peter__> can anyone help me out, i realy would like to play doom
[12:51] <HappyFool> appleman: i'm feeling distinctly out of my depth ;). I've setup software raid, but your setup is confusing to me. I see / is mounted on /dev/hda1, but you raid is on /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
[12:51] <peter__> and i don't wone run windows
[12:51] <appleman> HappyFool:  I recently copied bzImage from the /usr/src/linux/arch/x86_64/boot/ folder to try to fix this.
[12:51] <HappyFool> appleman: my kernel image is called /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-k7
[12:52] <HappyFool> appleman: hmm
[12:52] <HappyFool> appleman: doesn't the debootstrap install a kernel image?
[12:52] <HappyFool> appleman: ah, didn't you do and 'apt-get install linx-amd64' ?
[12:52] <appleman> HappyFool:  I guess the /dev/hda1 is the CHROOT version of /dev/mapper/via_cfdehjfb1
[12:52] <HappyFool> (that package name is a guess)
[12:54] <appleman> HappyFool: Debootstrap was not working, so I install a server version of ubuntu to a separate hdd and copied it all across.  But then I re-built a 'new' kernel to add-in all the software raid drivers as static... I may have forgot to copy the Image acrosss...
[12:55] <HappyFool> hmm
[12:55] <MrFreeBird> hi guys
[12:55] <mahangu> what stuff can I safely strip from my init.d to speed up by boot process?
[12:56] <appleman> HappyFool: Updated, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4785, with 'ls -la /boot'
[12:56] <MrFreeBird> How can I see AVI and MPEG files on ubuntu? Totem does not allow it
[12:56] <MrFreeBird> I use ubuntu 5.10
[12:56] <MrFreeBird> algum brasileiro?
[12:56] <thoreauputic> !tell MrFreeBird about restricted
[12:56] <mahangu> MrFreeBird, mplayer
[12:56] <mahangu> ah sorry
[12:57] <mahangu> see thoreauputic
[12:57] <HappyFool> appleman: i think root (hd0,0) is probably not right
[12:57] <da_shrewd> hello
[12:57] <da_shrewd> anyone can help me?
[12:57] <da_shrewd> i have problem with my mouse
[12:57] <HappyFool> appleman: can you put the output of    fdisk -l /dev/mapper/via_cfdehjfb
[12:57] <HappyFool> on the pastebin
[12:57] <da_shrewd> ubuntu doesn't detect my serial mouse
[12:58] <fec> hi, im using 5.04, how to update to 5.10 ?
[12:58] <deFrysk> !upgrade
[12:58] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:58] <mahangu> deFrysk, beat me to it ;-)
[12:58] <mahangu> i love doing that :p
[12:58] <deFrysk> ;p
[12:58] <fec> thx
[12:59] <HappyFool> appleman: i would guess that vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic or vmlinuz-2.6.12 will at least get you started
[01:00] <appleman> HappyFool:  Oke, vmlinuz-2.6.12 is the one I want - it's the one I compiled, it *ought* to be working now.
[01:00] <da_shrewd> anybody can help me?
[01:01] <appleman> HappyFool: updated, I am running 'root (hd0,1)' in Grub.
[01:02] <HappyFool> appleman: from http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4783 it looks like you have 4 partitions on your raid device
[01:02] <appleman> HappyFool:  Indeed, 1=/boot, 2=/, 3=/home, 4=swap
[01:02] <senectus> mmmm pocky :-)
[01:03] <HappyFool> appleman: hmm. then (hd0,0) *should* be right
[01:03] <julio> hola alguien me podria ayudar con programar en ubuntu en c++
[01:03] <appleman> HappyFool:  Oh, shoot - I thought root was for the '/' partition... it worked!
[01:04] <appleman> HappyFool: Cheers.
[01:04] <HappyFool> appleman: ok
[01:04] <HappyFool> appleman: good luck ;)
[01:04] <HappyFool> appleman: software raid was much easier to install ;)
[01:07] <live> Cmo est todo el mundo?
[01:07] <Seveas> !es
[01:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:09] <mahangu> Seveas, ping
[01:09] <Seveas> mahangu, ICMP ECHO RESPONSE
[01:09] <mahangu> Seveas, may I speak to you in offtopic for a sec?
[01:13] <BigKahuna> Can someone tell me how to reverse encode an avi file back to DVD (VOB) format using Breezy?
[01:14] <cloudr> VDR, can somebody help me getting a nexus-s card rev2.2 to work with VDR?
[01:15] <HappyFool> BigKahuna: at a guess use transcode, or mencoder (i haven't played with video stuff much myself)
[01:16] <HappyFool> eek
[01:17] <HappyFool> revenge of the spambots
[01:17] <BigKahuna> HappyFool, Thanks I'll google transcode.
[01:17] <patrick_> whats this?
[01:17] <cube> hello...i've a question...can I use Wine for using Corewin?
[01:18] <Seveas> grmbl
[01:18] <hawknig> breyk
[01:18] <Seveas> someone should kill either the spambot losers or the leaky-windows-running idiots
[01:19] <Juhaz> or preferably both
[01:19] <peter__> plz can anyone help me with doom3??
[01:20] <ompaul> Seveas, bot issues?
[01:20] <Seveas> ompaul, yeah
[01:20] <johndarkhorse> ompaul: spambots sUx0r
[01:20] <UdontKnow> heh
[01:20] <UdontKnow> klining
[01:21] <Seveas> ompaul, cat /dev/atomicbomb /mnt/redmond
[01:21] <johndarkhorse> UdontKnow: they're all in -unregged waitin on ya, heh heh
[01:21] <UdontKnow> johndarkhorse: did it already
[01:21] <Seveas> goo'boy ;)
[01:21] <Seveas> (read that as: thanks!)
[01:22] <ompaul> Seveas, na that would waste too much energy, cat /dev/null >  /mnt/redmond it will just a a shell of its former self
[01:23] <cube> bastards...
[01:24] <UdontKnow> ompaul: let me remind you that /dev/null never outputs anything
[01:24] <UdontKnow> ompaul: you might want /dev/zero ?
[01:24] <Seveas> /dev/urandom
[01:24] <ompaul> UdontKnow, note the single redirect
[01:24] <Seveas> people won't see the difference
[01:24] <ompaul> add it on the back and the the event horizon removes the content
[01:25] <GNAM> ubuntu 6.04 flight 1 is ready for production?
[01:25] <GNAM> .
[01:25] <Seveas> GNAM, not at all
[01:25] <Seveas> it is pre-alpha
[01:25] <GNAM> wow
[01:25] <GNAM> RECORD
[01:25] <ompaul> GNAM, read the topic - if you have to ask don't :-) I know I won't
[01:25] <Seveas> to quote kamion "It barely installs and does not do much more"
[01:25] <Seveas> but you can use apt to get up to speed
[01:26] <gnomefreak> didnt they just start development (active) like 2-3 weeks ago?
[01:26] <Seveas> yes
[01:26] <Seveas> by performing a massive merge with debian
[01:27] <gnomefreak> oh god no dont stray from ubuntu toward debian :(
[01:27] <johndarkhorse> Seveas: i ended up doing my own irssi scripts since nobody here or on #irssi has a clue why mine would stop working when i upgraded
[01:27] <ompaul> gnomefreak, if is how the other improvements were made, you have to start somewhere
[01:28] <ompaul> gnomefreak, s/if/it
[01:28] <johndarkhorse> Seveas: would moving from powerpc to ppc64 have anything to do with it?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> i have a badly broken etch on here they tell me after i spent 8hours upgradeing to etch that oh that doesnt work well :(
[01:29] <gnomefreak> debian is not on my good side this morning
[01:29] <johndarkhorse> gnomefreak: debian has NEVER been the user friendliest distro
[01:30] <gnomefreak> i didnt have too mant problems with sarge but just wanted (new cutting edge) distro so i figured hey etch is new :(
[01:30] <ompaul> gnomefreak, would you ever try to upgrade from SuSE to or from Rehat/Fedora or to or from Mandriva? ;-)
[01:31] <johndarkhorse> gnomefreak: dapper
[01:31] <gnomefreak> mandrake re writes the grub menu and takes ubuntu out of it :(
[01:31] <gnomefreak> suse is a pita
[01:31] <gnomefreak> no redhat distros see ubuntu and put it in grub
[01:31] <gnomefreak> dapper is too new
[01:31] <gnomefreak> <<not that crazy
[01:31] <ompaul> gnomefreak, LFS ?
[01:32] <gnomefreak> LFS?
[01:35] <johndarkhorse> www.linuxfromscratch.org
[01:36] <dabaR> well...if I had to, but this way...
[01:36] <gnomefreak> ompaul, i dont see me using that do to that fact that that is harder than well debian im sure
[01:37] <mintywalker> hi .. I need to recompile my kernel
[01:38] <mintywalker> but i want to ensure i get the same settings as the stock one supplied with ubuntu
[01:38] <mintywalker> any ideas how i ensure that?
[01:38] <eth42> mintywalker, I think it is: make oldconfig
[01:38] <eth42> not sure, though
[01:38] <mintywalker> k thanks
[01:38] <eth42> how do I find out which package contains X11/Xmu/WinUtil.h?
[01:39] <HappyFool> eth42: packages.ubuntu.com
[01:40] <eth42> HappyFool: ok, thank you! so there is no way to ask apt-get directly?
[01:41] <HappyFool> eth42: there is... um. apt-files, but you need to install it and it's big
[01:41] <HappyFool> eth42: 'apt-cache search' provides a limited search ability
[01:41] <eth42> HappyFool, thank you very much!
[01:43] <Toma-> hey.. ive got a problem with my network :( ive got a wireless router (Dlink g700ap) and a working wlan0 connection, but i cant ping outside of the local network, aka 192.168.0.X
[01:43] <Toma-> any tips?
[01:43] <eth42> Toma-: you don't have a firewall installed, do you?
[01:43] <johndarkhorse> eth42: if you install "apt-file" you can search in your console for files inside packages
[01:44] <Toma-> ill go see.
[01:44] <eth42> johndarkhorse: just did that :-) thanks!
[01:45] <Toma-> no firewall
[01:46] <eth42> Toma-: are the pings just ignored?
[01:46] <eth42> or is there an error message?
[01:46] <Toma-> ive tested the connection with the net from my router to the wireless point too
[01:46] <Toma-> error message...
[01:46] <Toma-> hang on
[01:47] <Toma-> network is unreachable
[01:47] <eth42> hmm, doesn't that mean that your network device is not configured?
[01:47] <Toma-> id say so.
[01:47] <Toma-> the card is working, just not configured right.
[01:47] <eth42> Toma-: does ifconfig list an ip address for the network device?
[01:47] <Taliesin-laptop> Hey guys, just reinstalling breezy on my main PC, gotten thru the first setup phase, im into the second setup phase where it boots into base-config
[01:48] <Toma-> its a static IP i have to assign it.
[01:48] <Taliesin-laptop> however it's not doing anything, i's been sitting at "preparing for installation" for 20mins
[01:48] <Taliesin-laptop> although top shows aptitude churning away, aswell as tail cranking at 60% cpu :/
[01:48] <Toma-> ill check
[01:49] <eth42> Toma-: I'm not really an expert on these issues but I would guess that the network mask and broadcast addresses are not set correctly; can't you just use DHCP?
[01:49] <Toma-> hmmm id say so.
[01:50] <Toma-> ill give it another crack with dhcp
[01:50] <Toma-> this static ip business is too much :)
[01:50] <Toma-> my DS can connect to my access point but not my linux box :(
[01:51] <eth42> DS = dose?
[01:51] <eth42> dose=windows
[01:51] <eth42> ?
[01:52] <ctd> DS would usually refer to nintendo DS (dual-screen)
[01:53] <rohan> hi all, anyone here used automatix
[01:54] <Toma-> yeh nintendo DS :D
[01:54] <rohan> ?
[01:54] <Taliesin-laptop> im taking a guess that every who could help me is sleeping :P
[01:54] <rohan> i wanna know if automatix is "unattened" ?
[01:54] <rohan> can i leave it to run and sleep ?
[01:54] <johndarkhorse> rohan: i advise agains automatix or easyubuntu or any other 'easy' script
[01:54] <rohan> or will it prompt ?
[01:54] <rohan> johndarkhorse: why ? b0rken boxen ?
[01:54] <Toma-> rohan, its automated
[01:54] <johndarkhorse> rohan: it will "auto-destruct" your box possibly
[01:54] <Toma-> and yeh, its not a good idea
[01:55] <rohan> Toma-: no prompts at all ?
[01:55] <Toma-> eth42, its all dhcp now and still no love. network still unreachable
[01:55] <Toma-> rohan not that i know of. iirc.
[01:55] <johndarkhorse> rohan: the wiki has plenty of articles on whatever you want to install
[01:55] <Toma-> perhaps for macromedia and java install
[01:55] <rohan> Toma-: reading the script off hand shows that there is one in openoffice2
[01:56] <rohan> johndarkhorse: ok, i will use apt-get :D
[01:56] <Toma-> rohan, well, i guess its not totally automated.
[01:56] <johndarkhorse> rohan: what pkgs were you looking for?
[01:56] <rohan> johndarkhorse: the mix that automatix provides is nice :)
[01:56] <Taliesin-laptop> rohan: from ubuntu forums - Please note: Options 29 to 34 require manual intervention and clicking and hence have been taken to the end. The first 28 options install without any user input.
[01:56] <Taliesin-laptop> hope that helps your question. :)
[01:56] <rohan> i want to install the full set, johndarkhorse
[01:56] <rohan> Taliesin-laptop: thanks, sorry for not reading XD
[01:56] <Taliesin-laptop> thats for automatix
[01:56] <Taliesin-laptop> no worries
[01:56] <johndarkhorse> rohan: i've not paid that much attention to those scripts except for when folks come in here with their boxen hosed
[01:57] <Taliesin-laptop> i only just googles it myself, been curious and all ;)
[01:57] <rohan> johndarkhorse: lol, how can it possibly hose a box ? its just apt-get
[01:57] <Taliesin-laptop> now if only my pc would finish install
[01:57] <Taliesin-laptop> it's been install for 50mins
[01:57] <Taliesin-laptop> and no sign of change except space and hard drive activity
[01:57] <Stormx2> !ie
[01:57] <ubotu> ie is probably Aye boyo! Head on over t' the #ubuntu-ie channel
[01:58] <johndarkhorse> rohan: the easy scripts have hosed several boxen, something to do with the --force-all options
[01:58] <Taliesin-laptop> and the fact aptitude is still cranking :/
[01:59] <Taliesin-laptop> oh god
[01:59] <headdown> hm, how can i find out what there is the best driver for my Elsa Victory Erazor PCI Graphicadapter?
[01:59] <Taliesin-laptop> the instllation has used 18gig of hard drive space so far... like.. WTF
[01:59] <headdown> btw: I finally managed to get dualscreen working, thx for your help
[01:59] <rohan> johndarkhorse: oh, ok.
[01:59] <rohan> Taliesin-laptop: install of ubuntu ?!
[01:59] <Taliesin-laptop> yeah
[02:00] <Taliesin-laptop> on my pc, it's installing onto a new drive, first phase went thru without an issue, this second bit has just been sitting there for 50mins
[02:00] <Taliesin-laptop> the two main processes that have been running are tail (im assuming it's tailing and making a huge log file)
[02:00] <Toma-> headdown, you'll want the nvidia drivers
[02:00] <Taliesin-laptop> and aptitude
[02:00] <rohan> Taliesin-laptop: lol, 18G ..
[02:00] <headdown> Toma-: ok, thx!
[02:01] <Taliesin-laptop> make that 19gig now
[02:01] <Taliesin-laptop> jeeesus
[02:01] <johndarkhorse> Taliesin-laptop: you got some newfangled 8core Pentium4 or something?
[02:01] <HappyFool> an 18GB log-file is unlikely
[02:01] <rohan> Taliesin-laptop: just cancel it. its insane.
[02:02] <Taliesin-laptop> haha
[02:02] <Taliesin-laptop> nah, looking at it now
[02:02] <rohan> the install is about 5G
[02:02] <Taliesin-laptop> base-config-pkgsel.log
[02:02] <Taliesin-laptop> 19.5gig
[02:02] <Taliesin-laptop> ;)
[02:02] <Taliesin-laptop> in /var/log
[02:02] <Taliesin-laptop> lol
[02:02] <Taliesin-laptop> log file is filled it
[02:02] <headdown> ubotu tell headdown about nvidia
[02:02] <da_shrewd> hello
[02:02] <da_shrewd> anyone can help me?
[02:02] <da_shrewd> plsss
[02:03] <johndarkhorse> Taliesin-laptop: i'd just kill it, before the log file eats your neighborhood
[02:03] <da_shrewd> i have problem with my mouse
[02:03] <headdown> hm, doesnt work...can anyone tell me about ncvidia
[02:03] <headdown> nvidia
[02:03] <Taliesin-laptop> To continue, enter "Yes"; to abort, enter "No": Unrecognized input. Enter either "Yes" or "No"
[02:03] <Taliesin-laptop> lmao
[02:03] <rohan> Taliesin-laptop: lol, rm the file
[02:03] <HappyFool> at 80 chars per line, that is 231 million lines
[02:03] <rohan> HappyFool: wow, fast calculation
[02:03] <Taliesin-laptop> hehe
[02:03] <Taliesin-laptop> wont help
[02:03] <Terminus> ubotu, tell headdown -about nvidia
[02:03] <da_shrewd> i have the website url,how to configure it
[02:03] <Taliesin-laptop> it's looking like it's stuffed the install
[02:03] <Taliesin-laptop> gah
[02:03] <HappyFool> rohan: yeah, computers are great ;)
[02:03] <Taliesin-laptop> WHY... WHY ME!!!
[02:04] <rohan> HappyFool: lol
[02:04] <headdown> Terminus: thx...how can I do that myself?
[02:04] <rohan> Taliesin-laptop: lol, use another distro :D ;)
[02:04] <Terminus> headdown, do what?
[02:04] <headdown> tell myself about nvidia...invoke ubotu
[02:04] <da_shrewd> but i think, i'm not expert with terminal.
[02:04] <devint> if i was Mark Shuttleworth I'd see more collaboration between GNOME + KDE, and even go so far as to see more collaboration between Linux and all the BSD's
[02:04] <da_shrewd> the url is http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/3-Button-Mouse.html
[02:04] <headdown> Terminus: tell myself about nvidia...invoke ubotu
[02:04] <da_shrewd> anybody can show me step by step
[02:05] <rohan> devint: whats the use /
[02:05] <Terminus> headdown, use the same syntax i did. instructions on how to use the bot is on the wiki.
[02:05] <Taliesin-laptop> rohan, but i like ubuntu :(
[02:05] <rohan> Taliesin-laptop: heh, ok.
[02:05] <headdown> Terminus: thank you
[02:05] <Terminus> headdown, np. :)
[02:05] <apokryphos> devint: that's a *very* key point he's stressing -- he did a whole talk on it not too long ago. Collaboration is going to be better, and there's gonna be a lot more love for kubuntu on dapper release
[02:05] <headdown> ubotu, tell headdown about nvidia
[02:05] <da_shrewd> hello,anybody can show me? :(
[02:05] <rohan> devint: and, define "c
[02:05] <rohan> devint: and, define "collabaration between linux and bsd"
[02:06] <Terminus> headdown, btw, playing with the bot is frowned upon in here. you could pm the bot though.
[02:06] <headdown> Terminus: thx, just found it out...sorry
[02:06] <Stormx2>  /msg ubotu <blacK>
[02:06] <Stormx2> *blah o.o
[02:07] <rohan> apokryphos: but devint 's point between collabaration between linux and bsd is absurd
[02:07] <Stormx2> Whats so absurd about it, fill me in?
[02:07] <krak`nix> anyone know how to setup color schemes with xboard?
[02:07] <apokryphos> rohan: collaboration occurs between all UNIX operating systems, even if you don't know it.
[02:07] <rohan> Stormx2: what does he mean by that, in the first place ?
[02:07] <rohan> apokryphos: define "collabaration"
[02:08] <devint> well
[02:08] <apokryphos> rohan: get a dictionary
[02:08] <Stormx2> XD
[02:08] <rohan> apokryphos: not funny.
[02:08] <apokryphos> I'm deadly serious
[02:08] <Terminus> well, UNIX operating systems mostly have the same apps. :)
[02:08] <devint> by collaboration between linux and bsd i mean what it says
[02:08] <devint> take for instance
[02:08] <devint> openssh
[02:08] <devint> that CAME from openbsd
[02:08] <Taliesin-laptop> mmm, installing over net @ 8MB/sec
[02:08] <Taliesin-laptop> yummy
[02:08] <Stormx2> >.> lucky sod
[02:09] <devint> the bsd's are doing some pretty revolutionary things with security
[02:09] <Terminus> Taliesin-laptop, you're making me very jealous. :p
[02:09] <devint> linux could even learn from dragonflybsd
[02:09] <Taliesin-laptop> i do run the File Mirror for the ISP ;)
[02:09] <devint> especially
[02:09] <Taliesin-laptop> and im, about 50 meters from it ;)
[02:09] <devint> haha
[02:09] <rohan> devint: so, you mean, taking good stuff from bsd and putting it into linux  ?
[02:09] <rohan> thats great, then :D
[02:09] <Terminus> hahaha
[02:10] <rohan> Casanova: the fun is over, sorry :D
[02:10] <Casanova> if rohan has been creating trouble here.. he is just a tiny little focker ;-)
[02:10] <Taliesin-laptop> 800 packages, 1min 10seconds :)
[02:10] <Stormx2> >.>
[02:10] <rohan> Casanova: thanks a lot, for speaking on my behalf.
[02:11] <Taliesin-laptop> not a bad efforrt ;)
[02:11] <rohan> but i dont really appreciate int.
[02:11] <rohan> and i request you to mind your own business.
[02:11] <bob2> probably plenty, folks.
[02:11] <rohan> Taliesin-laptop: wow, 8mbps is unheard-of here
[02:11] <Terminus> devint, i think you just want one ultimate distro. :p
[02:11] <rohan> Taliesin-laptop: the maximum affordable here is 26kbps
[02:12] <Terminus> rohan, you mean dialup?
[02:12] <rohan> Terminus: no. "cable"
[02:12] <rohan> Terminus: the cable net is very expensive.
[02:12] <Terminus> rohan, 26kbps?! isn't that slower than dialup?
[02:12] <Astxist> note to self: do not unmount usbdisk while nautilus is browsing it, it's bad ;)
[02:12] <rohan> Terminus: and speeds in mbps is rare, and expensive
[02:12] <rohan> Terminus: dial up here is 2kbps
[02:12] <Taliesin-laptop> haha, im not talking mbps thou, MB/sec :)
[02:12] <Astxist> 2kbps :/
[02:13] <Astxist> that's horrible
[02:13] <Terminus> rohan, oh... you mean Kbps. thought that was in bits. :p
[02:13] <Astxist> talking about modem speed
[02:13] <rohan> Terminus: yeah, my bad
[02:13] <Astxist> anyone know how to tell what speed you're connected at?
[02:13] <Terminus> rohan, i'll count myself lucky then. i'm getting 90 Kbps here. :)
[02:13] <rohan> Astxist: download speed over cable is 26kbps ,connection speed 256kbps
[02:14] <rohan> Terminus: here bieng ?
[02:14] <rohan> *being
[02:14] <Terminus> Astxist, make sure no other computers are using bandwidth and then you can check at http://www.internetfrog.com
[02:14] <Astxist> oh
[02:14] <rohan> apokryphos: hey... havent we met before ? you are the guy who swore by Qt
[02:14] <Astxist> you're talking about kBps
[02:14] <Terminus> rohan, you mean country?
[02:14] <Astxist> got it now :)
[02:14] <rohan> apokryphos: and even recomended me a lot of Qt apps
[02:14] <Astxist> Terminus, I meant modem speed
[02:14] <rohan> Terminus: yes. /me is india
[02:15] <Astxist> connection rate
[02:15] <Terminus> rohan, philippines here.
[02:15] <rohan> apokryphos: back then i was da_bon_bon :D
[02:15] <rohan> Terminus: ok.
[02:15] <Taliesin-laptop> Australia here :)
[02:15] <Astxist> not trasfer rate
[02:15] <bob2> ah
[02:15] <apokryphos> rohan: swore by Qt? Perhaps. I am a KDE-user
[02:15] <Astxist> Taliesin-laptop, same here :)
[02:15] <Taliesin-laptop> :>
[02:15] <Terminus> Astxist, check your modem manual? :)
[02:15] <Terminus> my bad.
[02:15] <rohan> apokryphos: yes, i remember. on #kubuntu. :)
[02:15] <bob2> internetfrog looks kinda useless
[02:15] <Taliesin-laptop> central? or east or west? :P
[02:15] <Astxist> Terminus, ;p
[02:16] <Terminus> bob2, i just use it for checking bandwidth. nothing else. there's always cnet. :)
[02:16] <bob2> how does it check bandwidth?
[02:16] <Terminus> bob2, actually, that's what the ISP here uses to check so i just go along with them.
[02:16] <bob2> why not wget an ubuntu iso?
[02:16] <rohan> lol
[02:16] <rohan> thats a nice way
[02:16] <Terminus> there's a java applet there for that.
[02:16] <rohan> msv.dk is nice too
[02:16] <Terminus> well, don't want to strain the ubuntu servers when all i'm doing is checking bandwidth. :)
[02:17] <bob2> it also says I'm in australia
[02:17] <bob2> and shows my location as somewhere off the west coast
[02:17] <sapo> hi fellows, quick question.. after installing breezy, my vlc, bittornado and other apps that when in hoary had a gtk look, now looks like some old apps without my gtk theme.. what am i missing?
[02:19] <Taliesin-laptop> but i work for an ISP :)
[02:19] <Astxist> ;p
[02:19] <Taliesin-laptop> no you dont, or you have to deal with Whingepoolers :)
[02:20] <Terminus> Taliesin-laptop, what's that?
[02:20] <vbgunz> does Ubuntu come with a VNC viewer by default for remote administration OR do I have to download one? I would like to control the computers in my room... Any help is appreciated!
[02:20] <Astxist> Taliesin-laptop, could I be hired for managing them >:)
[02:20] <Taliesin-laptop> ahh, www.whirlpool.net.au is a Broadband forum for Australia, we call it whingepool cause most customers on it whinge :)
[02:20] <Astxist> lol
[02:20] <vbgunz> oh sorry... I think I got it
[02:20] <vbgunz> will find out now
[02:21] <johndarkhorse> bob2: would moving from powerpc to ppc64 have anything to do with auto_bleh.pl misworking?
[02:21] <Taliesin-laptop> Astxist, not up to me ;)
[02:21] <Taliesin-laptop> we already have 3 staff who sit there with whips, we seem to manage them well ;)
[02:21] <Astxist> heh I'm going to stick with my current provider if I ever get to a location that I can have broadband at
[02:21] <Astxist> Taliesin-laptop, lol
[02:22] <bob2> johndarkhorse: very unlikely
[02:22] <Terminus> vbgunz, the Terminal Server client that was installed by default seems to support it. :)
[02:22] <bob2> especially since I'm pretty sure ubuntu does not have a ppc64 port yet ;p
[02:22] <Astxist> wow my friends site kills firefox good, 100% cpu usage just scrolling down the page :)
[02:23] <vbgunz> Terminus: thanks, am trying now :)
[02:24] <Taliesin-laptop> woot
[02:24] <Taliesin-laptop> pc is installed
[02:24] <Taliesin-laptop> now to get the second monitor working *goes to fiddle with xorg.conf*
[02:24] <Astxist> heh
[02:25] <johndarkhorse> bob2: my powermac reports linux-image-powerpc64-smp being the running kernel
[02:25] <Terminus> whoa... looks like i can use it to connect to windows too. didn't know that...
[02:25] <bob2> johndarkhorse: oh, sure, but you have the same user programs as you did with a 32-bit kernel.
[02:25] <bob2> I guess there could be a weird kernel bug that triggers something in perl, but I'd think it unlikely
[02:26] <johndarkhorse> bob2: they didnt know in #irssi, either
[02:26] <johndarkhorse> bob2: so i wrote my own horrible twisted scrit, lol
[02:30] <_native_> do we have any tor users here?
[02:30] <Eternalist> tor?
[02:30] <bob2> probably not
[02:30] <Astxist> _native_, not that I know of
[02:30] <bob2> I think they're banned
[02:30] <_native_> the onion router.
[02:31] <HappyFool> i believe tor users are banned from #ubuntu due to past abuse
[02:31] <vbgunz> hello everyone... does anyone know of a better and faster vncviewer than vncviewer :P? The repaint is pain stakingly slow on trying to remotely work with another computer on the lan... Is there a way to speed the repaint? I am reading the help file and think depth might do it... anyone?
[02:31] <_native_> thats dumb
[02:31] <Astxist> _native_, I don't use it myself but I've read their pages
[02:31] <johndarkhorse> nathan_: tor hostnames are not allowed in #ubuntu
[02:31] <Eternalist> vbgunz, no
[02:31] <bob2> vbgunz: why are you even using vnc at all?
[02:31] <mintywalker> tinyvnc ?
[02:31] <bob2> vbgunz: 'ssh -X user@remotehost', run whatecer X command you want
[02:31] <vbgunz> bob2: playing around with it... trying to see whats up with it
[02:32] <_native_> wow someone makes a great tool to protect us and the an irc channel ruins it. :)
[02:32] <bob2> oh, don't be stupid
[02:32] <vbgunz> bob2: connection refused... will a gui pop up? I sort of want the gui...
[02:32] <Astxist> _native_, all tools can be abused
[02:32] <bob2> if someone has an actual need to be anonymous in here, I'll ad an exception
[02:32] <tuxxxblade> hail
[02:32] <bob2> until then, it's only been fuckwits abusing it
[02:32] <_native_> Astinus; duh
[02:33] <bob2> vbgunz: did you install ssh?
[02:33] <tuxxxblade> im on another session how do i log on root in a term?
[02:33] <sapo> hi all, asking again.. after installing breezy, my vlc, bittornado and other apps that when in hoary had a gtk look, now looks like some old apps without my gtk theme.. what should i do for these apps to have gtk look?
[02:33] <bob2> tuxxxblade: what are you trying to do?
[02:33] <tuxxxblade> i wanna install a thingy that could allow me to read ntfs partitions
[02:33] <vbgunz> bob2: in the system monitor I think I have ssh-agent... I need the server huh?
[02:33] <Eternalist> bob2, how do you use ssh to display X windows?
[02:33] <bob2> Eternalist: ssh -X user@blah
[02:33] <bob2> vbgunz: yes, openssh-server on the desintation
[02:33] <Eternalist> i just tried it
[02:34] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell tuxxxblade about ntfs
[02:34] <Eternalist> it gives me a prompt
[02:34] <bob2> Eternalist: yes
[02:34] <vbgunz> bob2 ok
[02:34] <Eternalist> i typed xmms and it just gave me a new line
[02:34] <Eternalist> and nothing came up
[02:34] <_native_>  I think everyone has the right to be anon whether its a need or not is another question. :] 
[02:34] <bob2> Eternalist: then run whatever X application you want
[02:34] <mirak> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:34] <bob2> _native_: that's awesome
[02:34] <HappyFool> also 'ssh -Y' -- i can't remember which one is better
[02:34] <bob2> _native_: people can be anonymou in their private irc channel
[02:34] <tuxxxblade> johndarkhorse, how so
[02:34] <mirak> I have almost always this error when I try to build stuffs
[02:34] <tuxxxblade> oh sry nm thnks
[02:34] <bob2> mirak: what are you trying to compile?
[02:34] <HappyFool> _native_: maybe continue this discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[02:34] <johndarkhorse> tuxxxblade: check your private messages, ubotu is a info bot
[02:35] <tuxxxblade> yeah i saw that thnx
[02:35] <mirak> bob2: I try to build enlightenment, but I also got this error when building packages from sources with apt-build
[02:35] <ompaul> _native_, this is a support channel - that is not :-)
[02:35] <Eternalist> bob2, im tryign to run X programs and its not showing up
[02:35] <bob2> mirak: enlightenement i in ubuntu
[02:35] <bob2> mirak: apt-build is of no use at all
[02:35] <_native_> ok
[02:35] <mirak> bob2: I upgraded to daper and the problem is still there
[02:35] <johndarkhorse> mirak: do you WANT to build enlightenment or just run it? and are you on x86 hardware?
[02:35] <bob2> mirak: anyway, install build-essential
[02:35] <bob2> mirak: um, go reinstall hoary
[02:35] <_native_> joining off-topic ;p
[02:36] <bob2> mirak: if you have no idea how to install a compiler, dapper is going to be an enourmous problem for you
[02:36] <nomad111> is there a program that lets me format a partition as NTFS
[02:36] <mirak> bob2: that's breezy, what the hell are you talking about ?
[02:36] <nomad111> something i can use in linux
[02:36] <johndarkhorse> nomad111: windows
[02:36] <mirak> johndarkhorse: I am on amd64
[02:36] <nomad111> dun hav windows it got ruined
[02:36] <nomad111> and i cant access the cd either
[02:36] <bob2> mirak: find, use breezy then
[02:36] <mirak> johndarkhorse: I need to build it to run it
[02:36] <bob2> mirak: if you're using dapper, you have already lost
[02:36] <Astxist> nomad111, NTFS writing in nix last I checked was problemattic
[02:36] <mirak> bob2: the compiler is borken in breezy
[02:36] <Eternalist> bob2, wait it does work, i just opened mozilla, but i cant open xmms or anything
[02:36] <bob2> mirak: um, no, sorry
[02:37] <mirak> bob2: yes it is. So is apt-build in breezy
[02:37] <Stormx2> How do I give a command / launcher a shortcut key? I did it in hoary...
[02:37] <bob2> mirak: what does 'dpkg -l build-essential | tail -n1' print out?
[02:37] <nomad111> far out i need to rebuild my mbr and i dunno how
[02:37] <mirak> bob2: I get this error on breezy first
[02:37] <bob2> mirak: yes, apt-build is useless and broken
[02:37] <johndarkhorse> mirak: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155&highlight=enlightenment
[02:37] <bob2> mirak: it's not an error
[02:37] <mirak> bob2: it's useless for you
[02:37] <nomad111> the only thing keeping this comp together is ubuntu
[02:37] <bob2> mirak: it's the configure script bombing out because you didn't read the FAQ, or use google, or check that you had a compielr installed
[02:37] <Taliesin-laptop> frack
[02:37] <Taliesin-laptop> i hate this bit
[02:37] <bob2> mirak: it's useless because it does nothing useful, and it's broken
[02:37] <johndarkhorse> mirak: apt-build leaves much to be desired. however, using apt-get to build pkgs from the repos works well
[02:37] <Taliesin-laptop> setting up TwinView on nvidia for both of my monitors
[02:37] <mirak> bob2: ii  build-essential 11.1           informational list of build-essential packages
[02:38] <tuxxxblade> where could i find some codecs for my xmms or totem player - im a lil newb sry
[02:38] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell tuxxxblade about restricted
[02:38] <nomad111> im so stuck right now
[02:38] <bob2> Bogaurd: that's pretty unlikely, unless you installed netatalk yourself (or maybe one of the tasks did?)
[02:38] <bob2> bah
[02:38] <bob2> !+info build-essential dapper
[02:38] <bob2> !+info build-essential breezy
[02:38] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[02:38] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (dapper), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[02:38] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[02:38] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[02:39] <Eternalist> bob2, any idea why i cant run xmms?
[02:39] <bob2> mirak: and you get that error when running e's ./configure?
[02:39] <cheezy1> tuxx: try synaptic, you can find it in the menu system/administration menu
[02:39] <Astxist> tuxxxblade, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats <- might help you
[02:40] <Astxist> tuxxxblade, if you're after the codecs I think you're after
[02:40] <johndarkhorse> mirak: that forum link i posted will get you e17, i've used it and so have several other folks. and it wont botch your system
[02:40] <bob2> Eternalist: works for me
[02:40] <mirak> johndarkhorse: I used something like for x86
[02:40] <mirak> johndarkhorse: that
[02:41] <johndarkhorse> mirak: that forum article works well, otw i wouldn't recomend it
[02:42] <cheezy1> was harder to get on this ircserver than installing breeze :)
[02:42] <vbgunz> bob2: I "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" on the destination pc, then ran "nohup openssh-server" on it but it returns no file or directory... It looked like it created some keys and I had no errors...
[02:42] <bob2> vbgunz: no, don't run that
[02:42] <vbgunz> bob2: :(
[02:42] <bob2> vbgunz: every useful server package in ubuntu will start itself up on boot
[02:42] <bob2> vbgunz: now you can just ssh to the machine
[02:42] <mirak> johndarkhorse: where does it put the libs ?
[02:43] <vbgunz> bob2: so logout then log back in and try again?
[02:43] <Stormx2> How do I give a command / launcher a shortcut key? I did it in hoary..
[02:44] <Red-Sox> hey
[02:44] <Eternalist> anyone know how to change default programs for opening certain files?
[02:44] <Eternalist> i dont want xmms to open my audio files by default
[02:45] <sunka> what's the update proceedure like from hoary to breezy? will it wipe my files/configs?
[02:45] <Red-Sox> sunka, not if you use the repositories
[02:45] <Stormx2> sunka: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:45] <vbgunz> bob2: is there anyway I can use a GUI through SSH?
[02:45] <Stormx2> I beleive
[02:45] <tuxxxblade> guys how do i get to log root in a console ?
[02:45] <Stormx2> sudo
[02:46] <tuxxxblade> sry bout that
[02:46] <sunka> thnx, I was hoping there was an apt-get something I could do :-)
[02:46] <bob2> vbgunz: yes, you ssh in and run whatever X program you want
[02:46] <bob2> tuxxxblade: plese don't
[02:46] <bob2> vbgunz: if you want a desktop, I guess vnc is all you can do
[02:46] <bob2> (simply, anyway)
[02:46] <cheezy1> yes but if he just wants to run one program remote over ssh , it's golden
[02:46] <Stormx2> shortcut keys?
[02:46] <Stormx2> anyone?
[02:46] <vbgunz> bob2: I am sorry for misunderstanding... Yes, the desktop is what I would like to see...
[02:47] <bob2> sunka: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[02:47] <johndarkhorse> mirak: it is an enlightenmt dr17 repo for x86 ubuntu, it puts the libs in /usr/lib i would suppose
[02:47] <bob2> Stormx2: if someone knew, they would have answered
[02:47] <johndarkhorse> mirak: this article has no buildiing involved
[02:47] <bob2> Stormx2: try the mailing list, perhaps, or #gnome on irc.gnome.org
[02:47] <Stormx2> bob2: kay
[02:47] <cheezy1> Stormx2: specify problem please .
[02:47] <Stormx2> cheezy1: I want to add a shortcut key to a specific command/launcher
[02:47] <mirak> johndarkhorse: if it puts them in /usr/local/ it's ok
[02:47] <cheezy1> in metacity ?
[02:48] <Red-Sox> stormx2: I know how
[02:48] <Stormx2> Red-Sox: Fire away :)
[02:48] <cheezy1> if in metacity then you can use system/preferences/keyboard shortcuts
[02:48] <Red-Sox> stormx2: system--->prefs---->shortcut keys
[02:48] <Red-Sox> Stormx2, in gnome
[02:49] <Stormx2> No good
[02:49] <Stormx2> I want to to a specific command I made
[02:49] <Red-Sox> Stormx2, why not? not in gnome?
[02:49] <vbgunz> bob2: well, all is working well with SSH... I am running commands on the remote machine... nice...
[02:49] <vbgunz> bob2: thanks!
[02:49] <Stormx2> No, it needs to be a custom command that i made!
[02:49] <Stormx2> And I can't add it to keyboard shortcuts
[02:49] <Red-Sox> oh
[02:49] <Stormx2> so its no good ;-)
[02:50] <Red-Sox> Stormx2, did you look in the properties?
[02:50] <sunka> Storm: so you can run a command from the terminal...
[02:50] <sunka> ?
[02:50] <_native_> Stormx2; what are you wanting to do ??
[02:50] <cheezy1> if you want systemwide then you can put it in /etc/inittab
[02:50] <tuxxxblade> tho how do i log root on ?
[02:50] <tuxxxblade> it dosent even has a pass damit
[02:50] <johndarkhorse> mirak: these are ubuntu debs, so you can remove them with apt-get
[02:50] <_native_> you can use .bashrc
[02:50] <Stormx2> Red-Sox: yes I looked in properties
[02:50] <bob2> tuxxxblade: please stop it
[02:50] <Stormx2> _native_: oh? how?
[02:50] <bob2> tuxxxblade: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:50] <Terminus> tuxxxblade, sudo su -
[02:51] <Stormx2> !root
[02:51] <ubotu> root is, like, disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:51] <_native_> is this a command or script?
[02:51] <tuxxxblade> ok thanx
[02:51] <_native_> Stormx2; ?
[02:51] <Red-Sox> Stormx2, you knoe you can edit those key combos, if that is what you ment
[02:51] <Stormx2> _native_: Script
[02:51] <gfish> can i mount an ntfs drive so i can use it to listen to music
[02:51] <gfish> just reading
[02:51] <Stormx2> in /home/me/bin/scripthere
[02:51] <_native_> ahh mkdir bin in your home then make sure its in your path.
[02:51] <_native_> Stormx2;
[02:51] <Stormx2> gfish: Yes
[02:51] <tuxxxblade> thnx a lot
[02:52] <kevor> not relaly about ubuntu and dunno if it's legal, but anyone got handelmod.ttf somehwere?
[02:52] <gfish> stormx2> how
[02:52] <Stormx2> !ntfs
[02:52] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:52] <_native_> Stormx2; or is that what you have already done?>
[02:52] <Stormx2> _native_: yes, but that doesn't let me use a shortcut key!
[02:52] <candyban_> Hi guys
[02:52] <Stormx2> _native_: Been there done that ;-)
[02:52] <Red-Sox> stormx2 is in much demand ;)
[02:52] <_native_> ahh i see shortcuts. ;p
[02:53] <_native_> humm....
[02:53] <ptlo> hmm
[02:53] <Stormx2> _native_: I can run it fine, I'm just wondering if I can set a shortcut key ^.^
[02:53] <ptlo> where's that wiki page with package requests for universe? i can't seem to find it
[02:53] <mirak> johndarkhorse: debs from cvs ?
[02:53] <Terminus> johndarkhorse, sorry...
[02:53] <candyban_> Just booted my G4 for the first time ... (still running hoary)
[02:53] <_native_> Stormx2; that woul;d be cool i want to know as well. ;] 
[02:53] <Stormx2> _native_: lol
[02:53] <candyban_> Live CD is awesome ... good work guys
[02:54] <candyban_> is there a separate channel for ppc users?
[02:54] <johndarkhorse> mirak: read the forum page, i'm assuming they are cvs enlightenment pkgd for ubuntu. i use e all the time now (gotten using the forum) and have no problems
[02:54] <Stormx2> candyban_: maybe #ubuntu-ppc
[02:54] <Stormx2> ?
[02:55] <Eternalist> Is there a way to have gkrellm pop up on boot?
[02:55] <_native_> Stormx2; damn now i want to know bad there's a hundred commands id like to run with hotkey combos.
[02:55] <Eternalist> is there a start up script or something?
[02:55] <bob2> Eternalist:  you don't want it to pop up on boot
[02:55] <candyban_> Stormx2: it has an astounding 4 users ... huge userbase appearently :)
[02:55] <bob2> Eternalist: you want it to appear on your display at login
[02:55] <Stormx2> _native_: i asked in ##gnome - they said gconf-values
[02:55] <mirak> johndarkhorse: not for amd64
[02:55] <ptlo> Eternalist, go to System->Preferences->Sessions an add a new program to be run when entering session
[02:56] <_native_> Stormx2; thats what i would think. tell me if you get it figured out!.. ;] 
[02:56] <johndarkhorse> mirak: i asked at the beginning if you were on x86.. .. ..
[02:56] <struggler> how do i extract the contents of the initrd.img
[02:56] <mla> helloss, in which pachage I can find /usr/sbin/runscript in ubuntu ?
[02:57] <ptlo> mla, in terminal: dpkg -S /usr/sbin/runscript
[02:57] <_jason> !shortcuts
[02:57] <ubotu> _jason: Syntax error in line 1
[02:57] <_jason> !shortcut
[02:57] <ubotu> somebody said shortcut was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560
[02:57] <bob2> struggler: what're you trying to do?
[02:57] <Stormx2> I just found  http://gnome-hacks.jodrell.net/hacks.html?id=14
[02:57] <mirak> johndarkhorse: I said I wasn't
[02:57] <struggler> bob2: see what is in the initrd image, I think  it has remnants of an old md array
[02:58] <_jason> Stormx2, _native_, the link ubotu pasted is a howto to creating shortcuts (I think that's what you want?)
[02:58] <bob2> struggler: it's a gzip'd ext2 filesystem in hoary, and a cpio archive on breezy, iirc
[02:58] <_native_> _jason; thanx
[02:58] <bob2> (file will tell you for sure)
[02:58] <Stormx2> _jason: No good. I don't have an apps > metacity menu
[02:58] <_jason> Stormx2, in gconf?
[02:59] <Stormx2> wait lol
[03:00] <johndarkhorse> mirak: i just found this, it may interest you  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48616&highlight=enlightenment+cvs
[03:00] <struggler> bob2: i tried gzip, cpio just hangs, file says "inux Compressed ROM File System data"
[03:01] <struggler> bob2: i tried compress and bzip2 as well
[03:01] <Stormx2> Oh baby it works great :)
[03:02] <Stormx2> I press F12 and a box pops up asking me to enter an artist I want to play!
[03:02] <Stormx2> :D
[03:02] <Stormx2> <3 shell scripting
[03:03] <smo> struggler: I believe that's cramfs?  take a look at the cramfsprogs package, it's description appears to match your task
[03:03] <mirak> johndarkhorse: thanks
[03:05] <johndarkhorse> mirak: on the ubuntuforums is a link to 'get_e.sh' that is optimized that may also work. it is not the get_e.sh from rastermann
[03:05] <struggler> smo: cramfsprogs has mkcramfs and cramfsck, but no way I can see to extract
[03:05] <mirak> johndarkhorse: where is it ?
[03:07] <johndarkhorse> mirak: i've been looking myself (and kicking myself for not bookmarking it)
[03:07] <smo> struggler: rather deceptively, it's the -x option to cramfsck
[03:07] <Eternalist> How can i make it so that gkrellm doesnt appear on the taskbar
[03:07] <Eternalist> i dont want it there
[03:07] <Eternalist> i just want it running
[03:07] <struggler> smo: rather?  looks like a whole lot deceptive to me...Thanks for your time, I appreciate it.
[03:08] <hawknig> I and a friend of me want to make a connection between our computers via ethernet.do we just need a cable or some special packages for my and his computer?
[03:08] <hawknig> his box is xp mine is ubuntu
[03:09] <mjr> hawknig, if there's to be no switch in between, you need a crossover cable (unless either of your network card supports crossover with normal cables)
[03:09] <hawknig> we have already the cable
[03:09] <johndarkhorse> Eternalist: start it from a terminal and look at it's options (or try conky)
[03:09] <Eternalist> gkrellm -w?
[03:09] <mjr> you shouldn't need special packages, though I'm not sure what would be the overall easiest way to set appropriate IPs for the pair
[03:09] <hawknig> I just want to know if any problems will arise cause we are using different op systems
[03:11] <Eternalist> johndarkhorse, know anything else, i can run like gkrellm because i just created another panel so that it wouldnt overlap my windows
[03:11] <Eternalist> and theres a space so
[03:12] <johndarkhorse> Eternalist: try "conky"
[03:12] <johndarkhorse> !info conky
[03:12] <ubotu> conky: (highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1.3.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 84 kB, Installed size: 292 kB
[03:12] <ciga> hi
[03:13] <ciga> where do I find documentation for my mysql 4.0? in which package? in Debian it is mysql-doc, which does not seem to be in ubuntu...
[03:15] <cheezy1> ciga: on www.mysql.se ?
[03:15] <_native_> whats the best terminal based irc client i want to ditch xchat.
[03:15] <_native_> ?
[03:15] <mjr> irssi
[03:15] <mjr> (package irssi-text)
[03:16] <johndarkhorse> mirak: you might also join #e  and ask for assistance, i hear they are quite friendly
[03:16] <ciga> cheezy1: I am looking for a package to install.
[03:16] <johndarkhorse> nathan_: irssi
[03:16] <johndarkhorse> _native_: irssi
[03:16] <johndarkhorse> everybody: irssi
[03:16] <_native_> lol
[03:16] <ciga> :)
[03:19] <_jason> help
[03:20] <ompaul> _jason, you can find the definition of the word help in a dictionary
[03:20] <welp_ubuntu> hi ompaul
[03:20] <_jason> ompaul: lol sry I'm on irssi and was looking for some help in there
[03:20] <kevor> how can i remove TOTEM as a plugin for firefox, it does not play what i want it to play
[03:20] <kevor> mplayer plugin does
[03:21] <Eternalist> johndarkhorse, can you put your conkyrc on pastebin or something
[03:21] <_jason> ompaul: would you happen to know the help command for irssi?  so I can see shortcuts etc
[03:21] <Eternalist> johndarkhorse, i want to see how you put it
[03:21] <ompaul> welp_ubuntu, hello
[03:21] <Eternalist> _jason, isnt it just /help
[03:21] <_jason> \help
[03:22] <_jason> Eternalist: nothing happens
[03:22] <johndarkhorse> _jason: its /help
[03:22] <_jason> i'll go read on the interweb
[03:22] <_jason> exit
[03:22] <Eternalist> lol
[03:22] <Eternalist> nub
[03:23] <Eternalist> johndarkhorse, can you post your conkyrc?
[03:24] <johndarkhorse> Eternalist: i dont use conky, but at conky.sf.net there are conkyrcs-a-plenty
[03:24] <Eternalist> what do you use?
[03:24] <Eternalist> u dont monitor at all>
[03:24] <johndarkhorse> Eternalist: i have hte system monitor applets in my panel (i run powerpc and none of the sensor pkgs seem to work)
[03:25] <Eternalist> oh theres system monitor applets for gnome that just sit in the panel?
[03:25] <Eternalist> im gonna get those too then, whats the package name
[03:25] <johndarkhorse> Eternalist: right click on the panel, > add to panel > system monitor
[03:26] <Eternalist> hardware monitor?
[03:26] <Eternalist> oh
[03:26] <johndarkhorse> Eternalist: then you can right click on the system monitor applet and configure it to your happiness
[03:26] <Eternalist> thank you
[03:28] <guydebord> just registered my nickname can someone tell me if it worked?
[03:28] <johndarkhorse> guydebord: it worked
[03:30] <sunsun> guydebord, hah - how goes the SI
[03:32] <guydebord> ok just got my wireless connection configured correctly at a freinds house. Now at home I tried to reconfigure my network configuration to my own browser and nothing. Anyone know how my interface properties should look like?
[03:34] <popey> anyone here use liferea for downloading podcasts?
[03:34] <popey> i  don't seem to be able to get it to autosave enclosures (mp3 files)
[03:34] <popey> http://liferea.sourceforge.net/help/subscriptions_en.html last screenshot on that page has a tab called "enclosures" which I don't see.
[03:37] <Stormx2> Oh baby now my script works dandy
[03:37] <Eternalist> irssi is the shiznit :)
[03:38] <psychocat> I've changed my usplash to blue. After I log in through gdm, while it loads gnome the screen in brown.  Any way to change that?
[03:38] <Stormx2> I press F12, a dialog box pops up with an input in it, asking for an artist to play!
[03:38] <Stormx2> And then it resets my bmp playlist and adds all the albums :D
[03:38] <_jason> exit
[03:38] <_jason> lol did it again... sry
[03:39] <Eternalist> Stormx2: what did you code it in?
[03:40] <Eternalist> Is it possible to specify the -X flag in putty, so that my friend can connect and use the X applications?
[03:41] <Stormx2> Eternalist: Bash
[03:42] <Stormx2> Eternalist: (and zenity)
[03:42] <Stormx2> I'm just learning bash. Its full of quirks and commands and stuff
[03:42] <Eternalist> yea
[03:42] <Eternalist> i think a simple sed script could easily cycle through the artist names and organize
[03:42] <smo> Eternalist, it's burried in the menu at the side.  Connection->SSH->X11.  Assuming they're using windows (hence putty), they're gonna need a 3rd-party X11 server (putty just makes the connection available)
[03:43] <Eternalist> smo: Yea i just wined it and saw
[03:43] <Eternalist> smo: thanks :)
[03:44] <Eternalist> 3rd party x11 server?
[03:44] <Eternalist> so what do i tell him to download?
[03:44] <Eternalist> the reason why hes gonna be using my computer is because hes getting too much spyware and whatever else, even though i told him to use firefox
[03:45] <smo> Eternalist, there's one in cygwin .. there's also a few commercial products.  I don't use X on windows however, so I can't recommend any
[03:45] <Eternalist> how about eXceed?
[03:47] <Eternalist> i think that costs money, nvm
[03:49] <rob_p> Eternalist:  Exceed is good but very expensive... Xwin32 is very good and much less expensive.  They even have a student discounted version --> http://www.starnet.com/  It's the best I've found so far.
[03:49] <somerville32> Is the #ubuntu-unregged new?
[03:50] <smo> personally I'd rather fix the problem at it's source and hand your friend a LiveCD.  Kinda blurs the line between fix and evangelism however
[03:51] <Tweek888> hello, I was trying to install breezy and it kept freezing at 6% for installing base
[03:51] <Tweek888> what should I do? burn another disc?
[03:51] <Tweek888> :\
[03:52] <johndarkhorse> somerville32: -unregged is a spambot tagging and k-lining channel
[03:52] <smo> Tweek888, there's an option somewhere in the installer to verify the CD .. should be a quick & easy way of seeing if that's your problem
[03:52] <Tweek888> it was verified
[03:53] <somerville32> johndarkhorse: I know what it is, I'm wondering if it is new
[03:54] <can-o-worms> can anyone tell me what to do or read to get the synaptics driver to work on 5.10?
[03:55] <sewoyl> Tweek888, can you tell ur problem again?
[03:55] <Juhaz> can-o-worms, should work out of the box
[03:55] <Tweek888> sewoyl, the installer dosn't actualy hang
[03:55] <da_shrewd> sewoyl,can u help me
[03:55] <Tweek888> but it goes VERY slow
[03:55] <Skyline> Hey guys
[03:55] <Tweek888> taking about 5 minutes for package once it hits 6%
[03:55] <Skyline> Can anyone help me/
[03:56] <somerville32> Skyline: Ask your question
[03:56] <sewoyl> Tweek888, on my computer I had big problems when using the wifi card as the default one
[03:56] <da_shrewd> anyone can help me pleaseeeee
[03:56] <sewoyl> Tweek888, (when installing brezy)
[03:56] <Tweek888> sewoyl, on the install? :|
[03:56] <Tweek888> ah
[03:56] <da_shrewd> ubuntu doesn't detect my mouse
[03:56] <Skyline> I am the biggest linux n00b ever.
[03:56] <Tweek888> I don't have a wifi card
[03:56] <can-o-worms> Juhaz: well, all i know is that i set MaxTapTime to zero, restarted xorg and nothing has changed... so i am assuming it is not working
[03:56] <da_shrewd> i use serial mouse
[03:56] <Tweek888> oh.
[03:56] <Tweek888> :<
[03:56] <Skyline> All i want to do is install nvidia drivers, and instal limewire, and an mp3 player - and frankly i have NO idea.
[03:57] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Skyline about restricted
[03:57] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Skyline about nvidia
[03:57] <johndarkhorse> Skyline: check your private msgs, please
[03:57] <Skyline> ok john
[03:57] <Skyline> Thanks mate. im stressed to the max :@
[03:58] <somerville32> Skyline: If you need more help, feel free to ask :)
[03:58] <Astxist> Skyline, you'll get there :)
[03:58] <Skyline> thanks guys.
[03:58] <Earthpig> Anyone here ever built a custom Ubuntu kernel?
[03:58] <LjL> ubotu: tell skyline about limewire
[03:58] <Tweek888> Skyline, "xmms" www.limewire.com, www.java.com , http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/ (debian ubuntu same difference)
[03:58] <Skyline> Also how do i login to shell?
[03:58] <da_shrewd> somerville,can u help me?
[03:58] <sewoyl> Tweek888, learning fro mmy experience I would say the problem might come from some hardware (i still have no idea why the wifi card causes problemes when copying packages but it really seems it caused them)
[03:58] <Skyline> I dont no how to install anything though.
[03:58] <Eternalist> Skyline: apt-get
[03:58] <Skyline> WHen i open up the archives, it says.
[03:58] <Eternalist> Skyline: sudo apt-get install packagename
[03:59] <Skyline> archive type not supported.
[03:59] <sewoyl> Tweek888, you could try unplugging any hardware you dont need for install
[03:59] <Eternalist> read the starter guide
[03:59] <Astxist> Skyline, or use synatpic package manger
[03:59] <topias> HI!
[03:59] <Eternalist> http://ubuntuguide.org/
[03:59] <Tweek888> sewoyl, that pc has no extra :P
[03:59] <Tweek888> it is pos
[03:59] <Skyline> ok so how do i run the archives on my desktop?
[03:59] <Astxist> 'lo topias
[03:59] <LjL> Skyline: what archives are on your desktop?
[04:00] <topias> Could I ask a Question?
[04:00] <Astxist> topias, sure
[04:00] <sewoyl> Tweek888, or if you have broadband do the server install and then use apt-get to download the remaining
[04:00] <johndarkhorse> Eternalist: please dont advise that site blindly
[04:00] <Skyline> limewirelinux.rpm
[04:00] <Skyline> xmms.rpm
[04:00] <Skyline> rarlinux.tar.gz
[04:00] <topias> So, how can I use KDE in ubuntu?
[04:00] <LjL> Skyline: you do *not* install those
[04:00] <johndarkhorse> Skyline: xmms and rar are in the repos
[04:00] <LjL> Skyline: those are RPM archives, and are not meant to be used on ubuntu
[04:00] <bina> How do I make it so I can print without having to chmod 777 /dev/lp0 every time i send a document?
[04:00] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Skyline about repos
[04:00] <da_shrewd> anyone please help me
[04:00] <Tweek888> Skyline, apt-get install alien after getting fake root
[04:00] <johndarkhorse> Skyline: enable the universe and multiverse repos
[04:00] <akaGod> topias, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:01] <Tweek888> alien -i limewirelinux.rpm
[04:01] <johndarkhorse> Skyline: you'll then have access to over 16,000 programs
[04:01] <deFrysk> Skyline, ubuntu uses debs, not rpms
[04:01] <Tweek888> ALIEN
[04:01] <topias> and where must I write that?
[04:01] <Skyline> ok.
[04:01] <Tweek888> :|
[04:01] <sewoyl> is there a way to setup gmail for mailto: links in firefox ??
[04:01] <akaGod> topias, in a terminal
[04:01] <Eternalist> johndarkhorse: why not?
[04:01] <deFrysk> Tweek888, alien is highly overrated
[04:01] <Skyline> how do i enable these repo's?
[04:01] <da_shrewd> ubuntu doesn't detect my mouse
[04:01] <da_shrewd> ubuntu doesn't detect my mouse
[04:01] <topias> OK, trying...
[04:01] <Astxist> topias, in your terminal
[04:01] <LjL> Tweek888: why are you going to suggest using alien to somebody who cannot open a shell and doesn't know what repositories are? doesn't seem a good idea to me
[04:01] <Eternalist> johndarkhorse: he's not gonna learn linux if you keep spoon feeding him
[04:01] <Astxist> topias, accessories - terminal , if you're using 5.10
[04:01] <johndarkhorse> Skyline: read the priv msgs ubotu has sent you
[04:01] <Tweek888> alien is hawt
[04:02] <deFrysk> Tweek888, whatever
[04:02] <johndarkhorse> Eternalist: if one does the incorrect thing, one wont have an ubuntu to learn on
[04:02] <LjL> Tweek888: many things are, which i still wouldn't recommend to a newbie
[04:02] <_jason> sewoyl, https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=127
[04:02] <sewoyl> _jason, thanks
[04:02] <topias> Yes, it needs Kubuntu disc
[04:02] <da_shrewd> anybody can help me?
[04:02] <da_shrewd> :(
[04:03] <topias>  And I have it, 5.10
[04:03] <akaGod> does anyone know how to tell sylpheed-claws to only monitor certain folders (using IMAP) ?
[04:03] <_jason> sewoyl, https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=206 appears to be the latest supported version actually
[04:03] <nico8481> hi
[04:03] <sewoyl> _jason, yes thanks i downloaded the new one
[04:04] <bina> How do I make it so I can print without having to chmod 777 /dev/lp0 every time i send a document?
[04:04] <da_shrewd> sewoyl,can u help me?
[04:04] <topias> It started to install...
[04:04] <_jason> sewoyl, yw
[04:04] <topias> 75%
[04:04] <nico8481> any idea how to customize (add/edit site list) the "search tool" in the upper-right corner of firefox?
[04:04] <da_shrewd> johndarkhorse,can u help me?
[04:05] <topias> over 400mb, quite lot, I think
[04:05] <nico8481> i found the "add" but not the "modify"
[04:05] <LjL> da_shrewd: what kind of mouse do you have?
[04:05] <topias> BTW, I'm using Ubuntu 5.10, Finnish
[04:06] <da_shrewd> serial KeyMouse
[04:06] <Skyline> http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[04:06] <sewoyl> da_shrewd, didn't know somebody still used serial mice:)
[04:06] <Skyline> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://au.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/au.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[04:07] <da_shrewd> hehe..my pc is too old
[04:07] <da_shrewd> :)
[04:07] <LjL> da_shrewd: perhaps you should try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", answer all the questions with the default (i.e. press Enter) until the questions about the mouse come up. there, when it asks about the mouse port, you should chose /dev/ttyS0, or whatever port your mouse is connected to
[04:08] <fec> whats the software to limit eth's traffic? ex: limitted to 2kB/s
[04:08] <topias> 52% of the total process...
[04:08] <LjL> fec: wondershaper could be one
[04:08] <fec> thx !
[04:08] <LjL> fec: or, "apt-cache search traffic shap"
[04:09] <somerville32> pm me if you need help
[04:09] <_jason> nico8481, http://www.firefoxtutor.com/25/searchboxes/
[04:09] <da_shrewd> thanx ljl
[04:09] <Skyline> johndarkhorse mate do you have MSN or something im losing it.
[04:09] <sneaky> can someone help me?
[04:09] <topias> What's the best place to get safe Ubuntu programs from Internet?
[04:10] <LjL> topias: the repositories? ;)
[04:10] <sneaky> what is a good program to look dvd's?
[04:10] <johndarkhorse> sneaky: mplayer
[04:10] <joe__> how do i get audio to work correctly when running a game like frozenbubble?  audio works in xwindows but not command line stuff
[04:10] <sneaky> how i get mplayer?
[04:10] <topias> What are they? (I'm AM a kind of  n00b, only 3 days of Ubuntu)
[04:10] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell sneaky about mplayer
[04:11] <johndarkhorse> sneaky: look at your private messages, please
[04:11] <LjL> ubuntu: tell topias about repos
[04:11] <penguin42> are there any bugzilla admins or kernel-team mailing list moderators about?
[04:11] <LjL> ubuntu: tell topias about sources
[04:11] <Kratos> I have an error message in #flood, could someone look at it?
[04:11] <Kratos> Nvm...
[04:11] <LjL> topias: they're the official places where you install software from, using "aptitude" or "Synaptic" or similar programs
[04:12] <Kratos> Just tell me how I can find 'gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0'
[04:12] <Kratos> !gtk-2
[04:12] <ubotu> Kratos: I give up, what is it?
[04:12] <topias> Aha... so where are they?
[04:12] <Kratos> !gtk
[04:12] <ubotu> Kratos: Are you smoking crack?
[04:12] <LjL> topias: for starters, just try "apt-cache search <keyword>", where "<keyword>" is some topic you'd like to find programs for, and look at the results. but, using the links Ubotu gave you, you can add more repos with a lot of software
[04:12] <Kratos> frig....
[04:12] <johndarkhorse> Kratos: install libgtk2*-dev
[04:13] <Kratos> ahah
[04:13] <Kratos> johndarkhorse: ty
[04:13] <joe__> my audio works in xmms but it doesnt work in frozen bubble
[04:13] <LjL> topias: please look at Ubotu's messages for the answer to your question
[04:13] <wayne_> one usage question...i apt-get install beep-media-player,after that firefox's fonts failed, nothing could be showed in the page...
[04:13] <somerville32> When I try to mount something useing xffm, it says "no smbfs support detected in kernel"
[04:13] <jefletcher> Does anyone have a decent sources.list -- mine doesnt seem to have java, and the rest I try all give errors
[04:14] <joe__> and makes all the ubuntu sounds
[04:14] <LjL> ubotu: tell jefletcher about java
[04:14] <Eternalist> joe__: you using alsa?
[04:14] <somerville32> joe__ : Make sure that it is sending the sound to gstreamer
[04:14] <joe__> Eternalist:  i would reckon, how do i check?
[04:14] <topias> So did someone sent me private message or something?
[04:15] <sneaky> i cant install mplayer i get message: coultnt find package mplayer
[04:15] <LjL> topias: yes, the bot
[04:15] <Kratos> er... that isn't working
[04:15] <topias> Where can I check?
[04:15] <Eternalist> well first, check what output your using on xmms
[04:15] <Eternalist> i thikn it may be OSS by default
[04:15] <wayne_> (Gecko:12658): Pango-CRITICAL **: pango_cairo_show_glyph_string: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT (font)' failed
[04:15] <LjL> topias: it depends what program you're using
[04:15] <da_shrewd> ljl,after finish configure that file,should i restart to detect my mouse?
[04:15] <topias> X-chat?
[04:15] <Eternalist> joe__: you can type alsamixer, and if you get the mixer than you know you have it
[04:16] <sneaky> can someone help me to install m player? i get a message like, couldn't find package mplayer
[04:16] <Kratos> (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0)
[04:16] <LjL> topias: well with x-chat you should simply have a tab saying "Ubotu"
[04:16] <da_shrewd> ljl,after finish configure that file,should i restart my pc to detect my mouse?
[04:16] <Kratos> ugh
[04:16] <LjL> da_shrewd: yes, restart X
[04:16] <da_shrewd> ok
[04:16] <port7> is there such a thing as a ubuntu floppy install?
[04:16] <HappyFool> !tell sneaky about mplayer
[04:16] <LjL> sneaky: did you *read* the links?
[04:16] <sneaky> yes
[04:16] <Kratos> !help
[04:16] <topias> In down?
[04:17] <johndarkhorse> sneaky: enable universe and multiveverse repos
[04:17] <jefletcher> LjL: I used to "official" repositories the bot gave me, the package is still not found
[04:17] <akaGod> port7, yes, check the wiki
[04:17] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell sneaky about repos
[04:17] <LjL> sneaky: did you follow the "AddingRepositoriesHowTo" link for multiverse?
[04:17] <port7> ok will check again
[04:17] <HappyFool> port7: some install possibilities are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[04:17] <johndarkhorse> Kratos: what is the trouble?
[04:17] <topias> I don't have such a tab.
[04:17] <LjL> jefletcher: you're talking about java? there is no "java" package, you should follow the java-related links Ubotu has
[04:18] <HappyFool> sneaky: there is no mplayer package; you need to pick one of a few (e.g., mplayer-386)
[04:18] <penguin42> port7: Yeech - I hope you have the patience of a saint
[04:18] <HappyFool> !javadebs
[04:18] <ubotu> hmm... javadebs is at Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[04:18] <LjL> !repos
[04:18] <ubotu> from memory, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:18] <Valquis> Hi, I'm testing live-cd, but for my internet connection to work I need to change the mac address of my network card. I did this with ifconfig eth0 hw ether <address> but what do I have to do after that for the changes to take effect?
[04:18] <LjL> !sources
[04:18] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:18] <akaGod> port7, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WithFloppies
[04:18] <LjL> topias: look at the links above
[04:18] <jefletcher> LjL: I'm on about the package, sun-j2se1.5 -- I don't mean the language or somthing
[04:19] <topias> OK
[04:19] <LjL> jefletcher: yes, i don't think there is any such package
[04:19] <somerville32> How do I mount smbfs?
[04:19] <Eternalist> so
[04:19] <jefletcher> LjL: there is, but i can't find it now, my old sources.list didnt work
[04:19] <joe__> Eternalist: alsamixer came up but it isnt working for frozenbubble
[04:19] <port7> somerville32: mount -t smbfs
[04:19] <LjL> jefletcher: http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ apparently
[04:19] <Eternalist> joe__: you have to make sure your card isnt tied up with anything else.
[04:20] <somerville32> port7: I get the following error from dmesg | tail, "[4298715.200000]  smb_fill_super: missing data argument"
[04:20] <akaGod> does anyone know how to tell sylpheed-claws to only monitor certain folders (using IMAP) ?
[04:20] <joe__> Eternalist: there isnt a sound server that can handle more than one sound at once?
[04:20] <LjL> somerville32: port7 is right, but just don't use smbfs
[04:20] <port7> somerville32: have you installed smbfs?
[04:20] <Stevman> yo
[04:20] <LjL> somerville32: use cifs. "mount -t cifs"
[04:20] <topias> Thanks a lot about the help
[04:21] <jefletcher> LjL: thanks, i also couldnt find the w32codecs package ;)
[04:21] <PokerFacePenguin> Valquis: if you have a router that will clone address it might be easiest to do it that way
[04:21] <sneaky> yo yo yo:P
[04:21] <johndarkhorse> jefletcher: couldn't find or the server was down?
[04:21] <Valquis> PokerFacePenguin: I don't have.
[04:21] <somerville32> Ljl: I get the following error from dmesg | tail, "[4298813.101000]   CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -22
[04:21] <somerville32> "
[04:21] <Eternalist> joe__: there is, ESD
[04:21] <jefletcher> johndarkhorse: well, they all tested fine on apt-get update
[04:21] <Eternalist> joe__: alsa also does impretty sure, but i think frozenbubble defaults to OSS
[04:22] <Eternalist> joe__: besides, why do you want xmms songs playing and frozenbubble sounds playing?
[04:22] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell jefletcher about w32codecs
[04:22] <LjL> somerville32: well, do try installing the "smbfs" package anyway, before mounting
[04:22] <port7> somerville32: mount -t smbfs -o username=WINDOWSUSER,password=PASSWORD,workgroup=MYGROP ////<IP or name of server//<SHARENAME>
[04:22] <Eternalist> joe__: frozenbubble has its one music
[04:22] <johndarkhorse> jefletcher: w32codecs are illegal to distribute, read your PM
[04:22] <LjL> somerville32: that package's required for both smbfs and cifs
[04:22] <port7> there are lots more options but that works OK for me most times
[04:22] <Stevman> I'm trying to mount my sata raid using dmraid, to find a raid partition on a promise fast track 378. Whats happening is dmraid is picking up two of my sata hdds that aren't on the promise, and aren't raided... Any ideas?
[04:22] <jefletcher> johndarkhorse: ye, I see, but on the old ubuntuguide repos, it was there...
[04:23] <Stevman> its picking them up as pdc... that is... as being on the promise controller.
[04:23] <joe__> Eternalist: cause id want to listen to an ogg file while shooting
[04:23] <Stevman> and its not finding the actual raid (two other drives)
[04:23] <Eternalist> joe__: itll get too confusing, theres two songs playing at once.
[04:23] <penguin42> port7: I'd get two - I always find the first one has a bad sector....
[04:23] <PokerFacePenguin> Valquis: oh, u probably need to do an ifconfig eth0 up
[04:23] <PokerFacePenguin> Valquis: and a dhclient eth0
[04:23] <dylan_> as linux grows in size and popularity, does that mean that its security will be diminished?  are we linux users living in a false paradise?
[04:23] <load_return> hi !
[04:23] <joe__> Eternalist: i dont know it works in windows to play a song and play a game at once...
[04:24] <port7> penguin42: true, sods law strikes when you need things most
[04:24] <somerville32> Whats the difference between smbfs and citfs?
[04:24] <Eternalist> joe__: okay im going to say this one more time.
[04:24] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell jefletcher about ubuntuguide
[04:25] <Valquis> PokerFacePenguin: thanks, will try
[04:25] <Eternalist> joe__: it doesnt matter even if you got it to work, if you have 2 songs playing at once its stupid
[04:25] <port7> smbfs = old cifs=new(er)
[04:25] <johndarkhorse> jefletcher: ubuntuguide + breezy = broken box
[04:25] <Eternalist> joe__: in fact, why not just play your song in xmms, disable the sound in frozenbubble and just play
[04:25] <jefletcher> johndarkhorse: I have hoary I believe, but yeah, i've had some problems with ubuntuguide anyway
[04:25] <joe__> Eternalist:  not if the game is doing sound effects and the other one is doing music i dont think... but how to i change frozenbubble to alsa then
[04:26] <Eternalist> joe__: the game plays both by default, i dont know how to change that
[04:26] <Eternalist> joe__: you get the music and sound effects.
[04:26] <load_return> what is the command in terminal for  xorg.conf ?
[04:26] <Eternalist> for me alsa works, i made my own asound.conf
[04:26] <Eternalist> i hear the ubuntu jungle sounds when im clicking around and i have a song playing/
[04:26] <penguin42> load_return: 'for'? it is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:26] <jefletcher> johndarkhorse: is there a command for to update to breezy via terminal? like with gnome etc?
[04:27] <somerville32> How do I make something mout everytime I boot?
[04:27] <penguin42> somerville32: Add it to /etc/fstab
[04:27] <somerville32> No gui?
[04:27] <msg43> HI
[04:27] <msg43> I have abig problem
[04:27] <penguin42> somerville32: Erm there might be - I just dont know it
[04:27] <Stevman> anyone know anything about dmraid?
[04:27] <Eternalist> somerville32: why do you need it?
[04:27] <penguin42> msg43: Tell us about it
[04:27] <Eternalist> somerville32: just set the options to auto in /etc/fstab
[04:27] <msg43> when I load up xorg I get -bash: no job control in this shelll
[04:27] <msg43> I mean when I login into bash
[04:28] <msg43> and x won't start :(
[04:28] <joe__> Eternalist: it doesnt let me change sound in the game...
[04:28] <penguin42> msg43: So when you login, you mean a text console login? Is that the only error?
[04:28] <Eternalist> joe__: tap the spacebar when the sound option is highlighted, this turns off sound in the game
[04:28] <msg43> so when I log in to bash I get -bash no job control in this shell
[04:28] <worthawholebean> somerville32: try apt-cache search fstab
[04:28] <Eternalist> joe__: im sure you can live without those bouncy noises and shit
[04:28] <msg43> penguin42, yes when I login into tthe text console and I believe so just some disclaimers
[04:29] <msg43> about the software in ubuntu being free etc....
[04:29] <Eternalist> msg43: thats the motd.
[04:29] <penguin42> msg43: Hmm - ignore the job control bit for a minute, what happens if you try and start X with     startx
[04:29] <somerville32> worthawholesbean: Thank you :D
[04:29] <joe__> Eternalist:  but the developers had the bouncy noises in mind when they made it :(
[04:29] <msg43> Eternalist, ok but -bash: no job control is probably not a thing
[04:29] <msg43> penguin42, I tried that and I get a half white screen
[04:29] <Eternalist> msg43: xorgconfig
[04:29] <Eternalist> follow the steps and make sure you know your hardware
[04:30] <joe__> Eternalist: and it isnt letting me do fullscreen either
[04:30] <Eternalist> joe__: lol i dont know man, search google or something
[04:30] <msg43> Eternalist, I dunno the refresh rates
[04:30] <Eternalist> msg43: you dont have the manual for your monitor?
[04:30] <somerville32> Configuring my network interface at boot takes a really long time
[04:30] <Eternalist> msg43: you can also try searching online
[04:30] <somerville32> Is there any settings that I can tweak so that it is faster?
[04:30] <msg43> Eternalist, I don't think let me check it my cousins computer
[04:30] <msg43> and then when I try dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server it says the package aint installed
[04:30] <penguin42> msg43: What's the monitor and what res are you running it at before?
[04:31] <msg43> I think this happened after I installed devel tools
[04:31] <Eternalist> somerville32: why is that? write a script to execute this, ifconfig eth0 up yourip netmask 255.255.255.0
[04:31] <msg43> penguin42, not sure it a laptop not mine that why I don't have handful of information
[04:31] <msg43> let look in the manual I was given
[04:31] <Eternalist> then , route add default gw ipofgatewayorrouter
[04:31] <penguin42> msg43: They've split xserver-xorg up into bits - try a reconfig of xserver-xorg-core
[04:32] <LjL> msg43: the main package is called xserver-xorg, not xorg-server
[04:32] <Eternalist> LjL: dammit i was about to say that lol
[04:32] <sonsnix> hey guys, does someone have some experience getting the SPDIF-out working?
[04:32] <msg43> LjL, thanks I just relized that
[04:32] <LjL> :)
[04:32] <msg43> :blush:
[04:32] <Kratos> configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[04:32] <Kratos> Help
[04:32] <penguin42> LjL: On my machine that is marked as dummy
[04:33] <Eternalist> somerville32: does it slow down at the dhcp part?
[04:33] <sonsnix> I really need help get it going
[04:33] <LjL> Penguin42: perhaps, but a dpkg-reconfigure of it does do things
[04:33] <somerville32> Eternalist: Yes
[04:33] <sonsnix> it's an IEC958 on an ATI-IXP
[04:33] <Eternalist> yea broadcasting is the bottleneck then
[04:33] <Eternalist> are you on a wireless network or something?
[04:33] <msg43> dam I duno the video memory
[04:33] <msg43> fuck
[04:33] <LjL> penguin42: specifically, it gives you the whole debian-like parade of configuration dialogs
[04:33] <somerville32> Eternalist: Nope, wired
[04:33] <somerville32> Eternalist: I'm using XP's ICS
[04:34] <mintywalker> hiya, been following the kernel compile howto at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto
[04:34] <Eternalist> you connect to another PC as a gateway?
[04:34] <Kratos> msg43: Do you have onboard video?
[04:34] <LjL> msg43: i don't know what you're doing, but leaving it empty often works
[04:34] <mintywalker> it all worked fine, and installed
[04:34] <penguin42> LjL: Ah good - they normally do the trick :-)
[04:34] <mintywalker> but when I boot I get
[04:34] <somerville32> Eternalist: Correct
[04:34] <Eternalist> lol well i cant make it any faster, its better if your directly connected and the Xp computer connects through you
[04:34] <Kratos> msg43: Like LjL said, leave it empty
[04:34] <msg43> yeah it on board
[04:34] <mintywalker> kernel panic : not syncing : VFS : unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
[04:34] <mintywalker> any ideas?
[04:34] <somerville32> Eternalist: Well, why is it taking so long for the dhcp server to respond? Could it be my settings?
[04:34] <Eternalist> somerville32: if you have to connect thru a windows machine first, itll be slow no matter what you do on linux
[04:34] <mintywalker> I grabed the linux-source with apt-get
[04:35] <mintywalker> cp /boot/config... .config
[04:35] <Eternalist> somerville32: nothing to do with linux, its how fast windows xp can distrubute the ip to your computer
[04:35] <mintywalker> and ran make oldconfig
[04:35] <penguin42> mintywalker: That looks like you've not passed the root filesystem as a parameter on the boot line
[04:35] <Eternalist> somerville32: check the ICS settings
[04:35] <Eternalist> somerville32: im not familiar with that aspect though so
[04:35] <Stevman> dmraid is not picking up sda, or sdb (which are raided).... help!?
[04:35] <somerville32> Eternalsit: Why is it only slow with linux though?
[04:35] <Kratos> Anyway
[04:35] <Kratos> I'm still waiting for my answer
[04:35] <mintywalker> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12mjw-01 root=/dev/hda3 ro
[04:35] <Eternalist> somerville32: why does another xp computer go thru fine?
[04:35] <msg43> ok now what should I do?
[04:36] <msg43> startx or /etc/init.d/gdm start?
[04:36] <Eternalist> how long does it take for DHCP to finally say OK
[04:36] <mintywalker> which is the same as the original kernel entry, other than the exact name of vmlinuz differs
[04:36] <penguin42> mintywalker: Hmm that looks right
[04:36] <somerville32> Eternalist: Sometimes it doesn't respond and the dhcp server goes to sleep
[04:36] <kandoora> hi all, i'd like to know how many of you use a full-linux box
[04:36] <LjL> msg43: always /etc/init.d/gdm start
[04:36] <kandoora> with no windows
[04:36] <somerville32> Eternalist: Sometimes it picks it up right away
[04:36] <LjL> msg43: or restart -- never use startx, in any case
[04:36] <mintywalker> the only difference I can see is that the original kernel has a initrd entry
[04:36] <mintywalker> the new kernel does not
[04:36] <Eternalist> somerville32: well then its best to just leave it
[04:37] <jefletcher> does anyone know a good NewsGroups client for Linux?
[04:37] <Eternalist> somerville32: id still recommend having all other pcs connect to the linux machine first
[04:37] <penguin42> LjL: I'm curious why you recommend against startx?
[04:37] <Eternalist> and having the linux machine directly connected to the internet
[04:37] <LjL> kandoora: it's not the box i'm using right now (which does have windows currently installed), but my debian server is definitely 100% linux
[04:37] <Eternalist> itd make a good gateway, blocks all the viruses
[04:37] <msg43> oh geez gdm won't start
[04:37] <msg43> it says it failed
[04:37] <Eternalist> msg43: whats the exact error..
[04:37] <msg43> it happens when ever I install devel tools
[04:38] <msg43> Eternalist, nothin really it says starting Gnome display manager failed thats all
[04:38] <LjL> penguin42: nothing specifically bad with it (i.e. it shouldn't screw up your system in any way, AFAIK), it's just that it's legacy. /etc/init.d/[g|k] dm start is the way it's supposed to be done
[04:38] <Eternalist> msg43: check the log then
[04:38] <kandoora> is there an IM that supports voice
[04:38] <msg43> Eternalist, were that located? startx works :)
[04:38] <penguin42> LjL: Fair enough
[04:38] <Eternalist> msg43: and judging by your name, im guessing you cant wait for PS3 either
[04:38] <apokryphos> kandoora: skype is very good
[04:38] <mintywalker> is there some parameter i need to pass to make-kpkg ?
[04:38] <Eternalist> msg43: /var/log/gdm or something similar
[04:38] <Eternalist> msg43: all logs are kept in /var/log/
[04:39] <msg43> Eternalist, no my names stand for Matthew Steven G(last name)
[04:39] <Wibble-> hi - I've just installed ubuntu and I'm having some problems getting my modem driver (provided by intel - not in kernel) compiled.  It says it can't find /lib/modules/<kernel>/build when its looking for autoconf.h - this file is in the kernel headers directory.  What should I apt-get ?
[04:39] <Eternalist> msg43: lol nvm then
[04:39] <Eternalist> msg43: i thought you mispelled MGS4 or something and just logged in.
[04:39] <johndarkhorse> Wibble-: linux-source
[04:39] <Wibble-> eurgh :/ k...
[04:40] <Wibble-> thats not provided on the CD is it...
[04:40] <kandoora> apokryphos: yeah, but then you can't communicate (voice) with msn or yahoo or google users, can you?
[04:40] <penguin42> If a bug is marked as NEEDSINFO - am I just supposed to comment or am I supposed to change the state somehow?
[04:40] <msg43> dam there no log in /var/log/gdm
[04:41] <kandoora> apokryphos: i know that gaim is intending to produce voice and camera, but god knows when
[04:41] <msg43> I deleted them
[04:41] <apokryphos> kandoora: skype is a different protocol, yes
[04:41] <LjL> Wibble-: before you go and compile the kernel, are you *sure* there isn't a binary driver for your modem somewhere in ubuntu? what is your modem called precisely?
[04:41] <msg43> then tried /etc/init.d/gdm start
[04:41] <msg43> but no logs came back :(
[04:41] <apokryphos> penguin42: it means you need to provide more info; the person assigned the bug probably mentioned what info they need
[04:41] <Wibble-> LjL: no I'm not sure ... its an intel 536EP
[04:41] <msg43> ahh it says gdm is alreadying running when I do sudo gdm
[04:42] <can-o-worms> does anyone have the synapics touchpad thing working in 5.10
[04:42] <msg43> can-o-worms, I have a touch pad
[04:42] <msg43> I dunno if it synapic how can I find out?
[04:42] <LjL> Wibble-: well i don't think it's supported. and i don't think linux-source is on the CD
[04:42] <can-o-worms> msg43: do you have any issues with tapping?
[04:43] <penguin42> apokryphos: Yes but if I add the comment providing info do I have to do anything else to change the state so they notice I have provided that info?
[04:43] <msg43> can-o-worms, sometimes like it is very sensative when going though menus
[04:43] <Wibble-> *curses* I have to download it over a modem then!!! ... lol
[04:43] <apokryphos> penguin42: generally no -- they should pick up on it if you add a response; no harm in marking it as unresolved though
[04:44] <kandoora> i installed ubuntu several times and uninstalled it, there are things that make me go back to windows (yechhh!!!!). stuff like msn (for voice comm with other msn users)
[04:44] <LjL> Wibble-: it's 40MB
[04:44] <penguin42> apokryphos: OK, look at 8907 - how would I mark it unresolved - you see I added the comment about breezy before what looks like an auto comment was added?
[04:44] <kandoora> can someone give  a push so that i install ubuntu for the last time and never uninstall it
[04:45] <Wibble-> LjL: I prefer to measure it in days-to-download - then its only 7
[04:45] <msg43> ok
[04:45] <msg43> how can I have ubuntu autodetect my xorg settings
[04:45] <port7> kandoora: the voices say 'install ubuntu'
[04:45] <msg43> I have nvida card
[04:45] <can-o-worms> msg43: does cat /proc/bus/input/devices list anything about ALPS?
[04:45] <penguin42> kandoora: Yeh sure, we'll send the guys round with the guns and torture devices next time you decide to uninstall
[04:45] <LjL> Wibble-: heh... well why don't you just get a real hardware modem? *if* you can find one, it should be very cheap
[04:45] <msg43> can-o-worms, Idunno I'm kinda busy cause this is my cousin laptop and i need to get xorg working again
[04:46] <msg43> I'll check htough
[04:46] <penguin42> msg43: First law of computing: Never offer to fix a relatives computer
[04:46] <Astxist> penguin42, amen
[04:46] <msg43> can-o-worms, yes it does
[04:46] <msg43> penguin42, why?
[04:46] <dr_willis> Never even LET them know you can fix them
[04:46] <Wibble-> I have one of them on my main box - external - but I got a second box free with that modem in it
[04:46] <penguin42> msg43: Because you'll be fixing it for ever more and get calls at unearthly hours.....
[04:47] <Astxist> dr_willis, heh that oo
[04:47] <LjL> Wibble-: main box has linux too?
[04:47] <msg43> well anyways
[04:47] <Wibble-> yeah
[04:47] <Astxist> though I'm a little late on that one
[04:47] <kandoora> another thing woudl be, when for example inkscape (or any other software for that matter) comes up with a new version or build, it takes ages until it shows in synaptic, where as the latest version is already there for windows. is there any solution to that?
[04:47] <msg43> how can I have xorg configure automatically like when I installed the nvida drivers
[04:47] <dr_willis> or fix them and whipe out all their settings
[04:47] <Wibble-> this one was gonna be a mythbox (but I don't have a network cable atm!)
[04:47] <Stevman> yo.... dmraid is not picking up sda or sdb (which are raided on my promise 378), and its interpreteing a single raid of each of sdc and sdd.... any ideas?
[04:48] <jsubl2> msg43, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:48] <can-o-worms> msg43: what did you do to X to make it not work?
[04:48] <apokryphos> penguin42: that's fine -- if I were you I'd just add a note to reiterate that you did indeed test it. The dev might not have picked up on your message exactly
[04:48] <penguin42> kandoora: Someone has to package it and check it is ok; thats why it takes a while to show up - the advantage of a distro like ubuntu is that people have done the work to check that the packages work together; you are of course to go and get a source and build it
[04:48] <msg43> can-o-worms, well I installed devel tools to compile a few programs x stop working so I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:49] <msg43> now it works but supertux and those apps give me a segment fault
[04:49] <penguin42> apokryphos: Yeh OK will do - unfortunately there comment is to mail kernel-team - which I did, but its actually moderated so is presumably in a big pile of mail waiting to be moderated
[04:49] <eternalist> k does anyone know why if i change to anothe rworkspace BMP pauses?
[04:49] <Wibble-> Is there a way to download packages + their dependancies-that-aren't-on-the-CD from a non-ubuntu box which can then be installed on a non-net connected box? (second bit is easy I guess - first bit is just to work out dependencies not on the CD)
[04:49] <can-o-worms> msg43: so X works?
[04:49] <apokryphos> penguin42: nevermind; they should get 'round to it eventually
[04:49] <msg43> can-o-worms, yeah but I get segment faults
[04:50] <akaGod> does anyone know how to tell sylpheed-claws to only monitor certain folders (using IMAP) ?
[04:50] <LjL> Wibble-: it appears that sl-modem could in theory support your modem as well. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28027.html shows that you may have to scratch your head for some time. a tutorial can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com//IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto , though it's not for breezy
[04:50] <msg43> I need ubuntu to reconfigure my xorg file automatically cause I'm not knoweldge able on nvidia driver and the hardware specs of this laptop
[04:50] <tuxxxblade> ubotu,
[04:50] <can-o-worms> msg43: from other shit, your X is working
[04:50] <ubotu> tuxxxblade: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:50] <tuxxxblade> ubotu, tell me how to install wine
[04:50] <tuxxxblade> lol
[04:50] <netzmeister> hello
[04:50] <penguin42> apokryphos: Thanks
[04:50] <Wibble-> LjL: great - I'll have a look at that - thanks
[04:50] <johndarkhorse> can-o-worms: let's watch our language in here, please
[04:50] <netzmeister> i have a problem with my GF6800
[04:50] <msg43> can-o-worms, yeah it works
[04:50] <netzmeister> I cannot load the nvidia.ko Module
[04:51] <tuxxxblade> damit need hhelp
[04:51] <can-o-worms> so is no one using a laptop with a synaptics touchpad?
[04:51] <tuxxxblade> how do install wine?
[04:51] <netzmeister> Message: No device found
[04:51] <can-o-worms> johndarkhorse: i was watching
[04:51] <LjL> !tell tuxxxblade about wine
[04:51] <tuxxxblade> ty:)
[04:51] <msg43> does anyone know how to reconfgiure xorg config file automatically????
[04:52] <dell500> anyone here use yamipod?
[04:52] <LjL> tuxxxblade: i think there are repositories with the most recent wine compiled for ubuntu, somewhere
[04:52] <apokryphos> msg43: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:52] <msg43> can-o-worms, does you touchpad have scroll whell
[04:52] <msg43> apokryphos, that manual though
[04:53] <eternalist> Does anyone know the equivalent of gxmms but for BMP?
[04:53] <LjL> tuxxxblade: though !wine would have told you about them, but apparently it doesn't (any more?)
[04:53] <apokryphos> msg43: it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:53] <eternalist> gxmms doesnt support bmp fully..
[04:53] <msg43> apokryphos, I think I get it I did sudo nvidia-glx-config enable I forgot about it
[04:53] <msg43> I don't use ubuntu for myself
[04:53] <tuxxxblade> actually i tryed to install it and some win32 codecs but it dosent work
[04:53] <netzmeister> !tell netzmeister about nvidia
[04:54] <jullee> i whant to install ubuntu on my computer, i have .mp3 on one of my partitions, the partition filesystem is ntfs and i have heard that linux do not support ntfs
[04:54] <msg43> ahh it looks a lot more better now
[04:54] <LjL> tuxxxblade: what doesn't work?
[04:54] <apokryphos> msg43: that's something quite different, but part of reconfiguration, yes.
[04:54] <can-o-worms> msg43: you don't need to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg because you don't have a problem with X not working
[04:54] <LjL> jullee: it supports NTFS, but read-only
[04:54] <msg43> can-o-worms, I got it IT hink
[04:54] <penguin42> WHy doesn't bugzilla have a field for version anyway?
[04:54] <msg43> xorg wasn't setup correctly for nvidia
[04:54] <msg43> and I don't have a nvidia
[04:55] <jullee> LjL: Okey, someone know how i can convert it to fat32 and not lose any data?
[04:55] <apokryphos> msg43: do the first command I said
[04:55] <msg43> apokryphos, nah I got it now
[04:55] <tuxxxblade> i dunno lol
[04:55] <msg43> can-o-worms, you around?
[04:55] <LjL> jullee: i'm not sure you can do that, even though you can do the opposite.
[04:55] <can-o-worms> msg43: if you install the nvidia drivers then you have to change the driver from "nv" to "nvidia"
[04:55] <tuxxxblade> i did what them help files say but ..
[04:55] <msg43> can-o-worms, ahh that was the problem
[04:55] <tuxxxblade> i dunno if the patch is applied even as root
[04:55] <msg43> can-o-worms, anways to the touchpad
[04:56] <msg43> does your touch pad ahve a scroll wheel
[04:56] <LjL> tuxxxblade: i'm not following you. watch patch? what help files? what are you trying to do? why do you need wine?
[04:56] <can-o-worms> msg43: yeah, but it's cool man, i have to get some sleep, and i need to talk to someone who has it working
[04:57] <msg43> can-o-worms, please how did you get it working
[04:57] <msg43> what did your add to xorg.conf
[04:57] <ompaul> !tell msg43 about nvidia
[04:57] <msg43> ompaul, I don't need dam nvida
[04:57] <ompaul> msg43 read what the bot tells ya
[04:57] <msg43> and need a scroll wheel
[04:57] <msg43> I fixed nvidia
[04:58] <tuxxxblade> i wanna run some windows progs
[04:58] <Eternalist> ubotu: help
[04:58] <Eternalist> ubotu
[04:58] <tuxxxblade> n games
[04:58] <can-o-worms> msg43: i haven't gotten it working despite messing with a whole bunch of stuff, and now i am wondering if there is even support for it in the kernel
[04:58] <penguin42> tuxxxblade: Then you need wine - it sometimes lets you run windows progs
[04:58] <msg43> can-o-worms, I found I guide
[04:58] <msg43> it a ubuntu one a beleive want a link?
[04:58] <LjL> tuxxxblade: ok. what goes wrong when you "aptitude install wine"? or, what goes wrong when you launch a windows program?
[04:58] <LjL> Penguin42: he knows
[04:59] <can-o-worms> msg43: sure, i may have already read it though
[04:59] <somerville32> How do I make linux more secure then windows?
[04:59] <msg43> can-o-worms, join msg43 so I can just copy and past it
[04:59] <tuxxxblade> afk
[04:59] <Eternalist> penguin42: you can actually run CS Source now :)
[04:59] <tuxxxblade> actually i think i made it
[04:59] <msg43>  I mean /join #msg43
[04:59] <LjL> tuxxxblade: also, please type my nickname when you're talking to me, otherwise i might easily miss your messages
[04:59] <penguin42> Eternalist: ?
[04:59] <tuxxxblade> thanks to the repository
[04:59] <tuxxxblade> LjL sry
[04:59] <tuxxxblade> LjL, thnx a lot
[04:59] <tuxxxblade> im afk
[05:00] <LjL> np -- next time check the repositories *first*! ;) they have just about anything
[05:00] <GMachine_24> I have tried to install java on ubuntu hoary and followed the instructions to install and create a virtual link to the mozilla/plugins folder and also mozilla-firefox/plugins folder and made sure Java was enabled in the firefox browser but still java is not recognized.
[05:00] <penguin42> somerville32: Well you need to make sure you've got a good firewall, only run the services you need to and still be careful to make sure you keep things upto date
[05:00] <sambagirl> what means a cpu overload?
[05:00] <sabmann> lol
[05:00] <sabmann> it means something in winxp
[05:01] <sabmann> i dunno
[05:01] <sneaky> can someone help me each time i want to play a dvd my screen is getting fuckt up
[05:01] <sambagirl> what means a cpu overload?
[05:01] <Eternalist> somerville32: linux is already more secure than windows
[05:01] <sabmann> dload the right codecs
[05:01] <sambagirl> winxp?
[05:01] <sneaky> where?
[05:01] <Eternalist> somerville32: only root can access ports 1024 and below
[05:01] <sabmann> lol
[05:01] <netzmeister> Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile/nvidia.ko) No such device
[05:01] <netzmeister> Whats wrong?
[05:01] <Eternalist> somerville32: i dont run a firewall, i dont think a lot of peopele to, its fine how it is
[05:02] <deFrysk> sambagirl, thats a truck with a too heavy load of cpu's
[05:02] <sabmann> lol
[05:02] <sambagirl> jolly joker
[05:02] <sambagirl> is not funny
[05:02] <sneaky> can some help me each time i play a dvd my screen get fucked up,
[05:02] <sambagirl> not funny at all.
[05:03] <penguin42> Eternalist: Oooh that's a dangerous comment - there are lots of ports open often by default unless you are very very careful
[05:03] <sabmann> cpu overload: your processor unit gets to many requests by your runnig apps it gets f*cked up
[05:03] <netzmeister> Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile/nvidia.ko) No such device
[05:03] <netzmeister> :-(
[05:03] <sabmann> get ati....
[05:04] <sabmann> ... that doesn't support composite :(
[05:04] <n0dl> How would i change my main log in name in ubuntu? (i want to make a new account then delete the one i started out with)
[05:04] <jefletcher> rofl, how do i switch to window 11 in irssi?
[05:04] <mezig> #quit
[05:04] <johndarkhorse> jefletcher: alt-q
[05:05] <LjL> what is mplayer-custom?
[05:05] <johndarkhorse> jefletcher: or /window 11
[05:05] <jefletcher> johndarkhorse: thx
[05:06] <benoy> hi everyone.  Has anyone had any problems with starting Evolution after upgrading to breezy.  Right now I am having this problem.  I get the message "Details: Failed to execute child process "evolution-2.2" (No such file or directory)" whenever I try to run Evolution.  Any suggestions?
[05:06] <tetsueo> hi guys
[05:06] <benoy> Evolution used to work before i upgraded to breezy
[05:06] <tuxxxblade> dam gtg cya later guys thnx
[05:07] <tetsueo> i've only just installed ubuntu an hour ago...cant get these damn nvidia drivers to work though
[05:07] <penguin42> benoy: So the interesting is that breezy has 2.4 evolution - not 2.2
[05:07] <sabmann> there is a wiki page about nvidia cards i suppose
[05:07] <benoy> penguin42:  oh how do I fix that?
[05:07] <Eternalist> Okay, i added the voluem control applet and it doesnt show up
[05:07] <Eternalist> its just taking invisible space
[05:08] <penguin42> benoy: Don't know
[05:08] <somerville32> Wow!
[05:08] <somerville32> Wine is really powerful
[05:08] <LjL> guys, *what* graphics cards are just supported out of the box? seems people are having all sorts of trouble with *both* ati and nvidia cards... what is it that i'm missing? (not that i've never been very knowledgeable about graphics cards)
[05:08] <benoy> oh
[05:09] <deFrysk> LjL, are you a gamer ?
[05:09] <johndarkhorse> LjL: my nvidia and ati cards on my macs are supported just fine
[05:09] <Eternalist> Can anyoine help!?
[05:09] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell tetsueo about nvidea
[05:09] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell tetsueo about nvidia
[05:09] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell me how to spell
[05:10] <penguin42> LjL: Welcome to the hell of commercial drivers (not that the free ones are any better)
[05:10] <sabmann> my ati 9600 xt is also supported... but ati drivers doesnt support compiste:(
[05:10] <LjL> deFrysk: no, i'm not, but i've got a very unsupported -- and broken, too -- graphics card (Kyro II chipset) that i'm going to change with something cheap. but i'd like to get something that works *well* with linux (and ubuntu), 3D acceleration included, even though i rarely try games
[05:10] <kapputu> where do I ask questions about Cisco vpn clients? I get a message "Peer Platform type" not allowed when I connect to my office network
[05:10] <ClayG> anyone know how to change the default terminal size in gnome?
[05:10] <sabmann> nvidia has better linux support than ati
[05:10] <benoy> can anyone help me with an Evolution problem?
[05:11] <sabmann> nvidea has more "updated" drivers than ati
[05:11] <deFrysk> LjL, most cards work fine on linux when there is no accelaration used
[05:11] <sabmann> yep
[05:11] <somerville32> Can I install the latest version of wine from their website?
[05:11] <Eternalist> CAN ANYONE HLEP
[05:11] <jsubl2> LjL, depends on what you call cheap.. the nvidia gf5200 can be found under $50 usd.  mine works good
[05:11] <johndarkhorse> benoy: have you been to help.ubuntu.com or www.ubuntuforums.org?
[05:11] <LjL> sabmann, penguin42: so there's no chance to make a modern graphics card work well with only open-source drivers, possibly standard ubuntu ones?
[05:11] <Eternalist> volume control applet is taking up invisible space
[05:11] <Eternalist> its not showing up
[05:11] <somerville32> Or should I wait for a ubuntu package?
[05:11] <Eternalist> even after refreshing the gnome-panel
[05:12] <barongas> How do I get my diskette drive going? It checks for system disks on boot so it's working but I don't know where to find it in ubuntu.
[05:12] <johndarkhorse> Eternalist: please, dont Cap us into helping (i'll end up telling you how to bake an apple crumble)
[05:12] <penguin42> LjL: Not with 3D as far as I know; I have a Radeon 7200 that is an old ATI by todays standards and that uses the free drivers to do 3d, but it is a bit flaky for 3d
[05:12] <benoy> I have tried those and am waiting for a reply
[05:12] <LjL> jsubl2: i call 30 cheap, there is an ATI at that price at a store i know. i really don't care much about the *card's* performance, i just care about linux being *able* to reach the card's performance, if you know what i mean
[05:12] <Eternalist> well god forbid you guys stop talking about todays stance on video cards
[05:12] <Eternalist> who gives a shit
[05:12] <benoy> hoping to solve this as soon as possible
[05:12] <Eternalist> if you want to play games and you need 3d acceleration
[05:12] <Eternalist> go on windows
[05:12] <Eternalist> dont bitch on here about ati not releasing details so that open source devs can properly write the drivers
[05:12] <LjL> Eternalist: sounds like a constructive suggestion
[05:12] <Eternalist> because obviously they cant
[05:13] <ClayG> Lol Eternalist you expected help here?
[05:13] <jsubl2> LjL, alot of folks have trouble with the ati drivers i hear..
[05:13] <Eternalist> jsubl2: yes im one of them
[05:13] <Eternalist> radeon 9550
[05:13] <sabmann> me too
[05:13] <ClayG> There is a guy but I think he is away for the weeknd
[05:13] <Eternalist> im using the default radeon driver, who cares, i can see and theres a display
[05:13] <Eternalist> thats all i care about
[05:13] <LjL> jsubl2: yeah, i hear that too. that's why i thought i should probably get a similarly priced nVidia-based card... but then, people seem to be having trouble with nVidia as well?!
[05:13] <johndarkhorse> Eternalist: if nobody knows the answer to your question, do you want us to make something up?
[05:13] <LjL> Eternalist: I'm using VESA, so what
[05:13] <Eternalist> johndarkhorse: no i want you to tell me that you dont know
[05:14] <sabmann> radeon 9600xt... great card but I really would like compiste support
[05:14] <Eternalist> johndarkhorse: instead of ignoring my questions
[05:14] <ClayG> John it would be nice to tell him you dont know instead of him sitting here thinking no one is hearing him
[05:14] <jsubl2> LjL, maybe with older nvidia. dunno about nvidia troubles
[05:14] <dell500> sabmann, i have the same card :)
[05:14] <taalaintalleri> I cannot install drivers ATI Radeon X300 /ubuntu breezer
[05:14] <LjL> Eternalist: doesn't mean i should ask as to what i should buy to get the best graphics support
[05:14] <johndarkhorse> johns^: 600+ users telling you they dont know creates quite a flood
[05:14] <Eternalist> LjL: all im saying is, its not a big deal, get a nvidia chip, supposedly those are supported well
[05:14] <sabmann> dell500, great card... for games on winxp:(
[05:15] <Eternalist> great now all my windows on the taskbar are bunched to one side because volume control is somewhere there andi cant see it.
[05:15] <Eternalist> this is bullshit
[05:15] <dell500> sabmann, i got 3d accel to work though on ubuntu
[05:15] <_jason> Eternalist, go to a new workspace with no windows and edit your panel there
[05:15] <dell500> sabmann, after lots of turmoil and fustration
[05:16] <deFrysk> Eternalist, drag and drop them to a proper place on the panel (use rightklick the icons)
[05:16] <LjL> Penguin42: the 30 card i was talking about is an ATI Radeon 7000, so i suppose it's even older than the one you were talking about?
[05:16] <jsubl2> LjL, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814133127
[05:16] <kapputu> I use vpn client 4.0.3 from Windows to connect to work and I could only get 4.0.5 for Linux - I get a Peer Platform Type or Version not allowed error
[05:17] <Eternalist> deFrysk: thanks i think that did the trick
[05:17] <deFrysk> Eternalist, yw ;)
[05:17] <LjL> jsubl2: so whatever has an "FX5200" chipset should work decently?
[05:17] <jsubl2> LjL, it is exactly what i have.. and drivers install flawlessly using synaptic
[05:18] <deFrysk> LjL, most cheap nvidia videocards use that
[05:18] <penguin42> LjL: The 7000 should work out of the box - and 3D seems to work on breezy better than hoary; but the issue that is still an open bug about freezes on 3d sometimes - but I've not seen it so far in breezy
[05:18] <LjL> deFrysk, jsubl2: i see, so i think i'll hunt for a card with that chipset
[05:18] <jsubl2> DeFi, so would you recommend the card since you also have one
[05:19] <jsubl2> DeFrysk  so would you recommend the card since you also have one
[05:19] <gfxstyler> whatever you choose, my personal opinion is: never choose ati when you have linux
[05:19] <deFrysk> the old nvidiatnt2 cards no longer work with acceleration unfortunately
[05:19] <LjL> Penguin42, deFrysk, jsubl2: well, so, given a Radeon 7000 and an FX5200, what would you all advice, this time on grounds of *both* linux compatibility *and* raw card performance?
[05:19] <jsubl2> LjL, you should be able to find some good buys on it.. it uses the nvidia-glx driver
[05:20] <deFrysk> LjL, I dont advise, i share my good exeriences with nvidia
[05:20] <penguin42> LjL: Well I dunno - I've only had the 7200 - its certainly old, so it will hardly be fast by todays standards - 7200 seems fast enough for tux racer though :-)
[05:20] <gfxstyler> LjL: take the fx5200
[05:20] <ClayG> No one knows how to change the default terminal size in Gnome? I'd like it to be smaller without having to manually change it every time
[05:20] <LjL> the only thing i'm a bit worried about is the binary drivers... history teaches me that cards that only have binary drivers risk becoming unsupported in few years
[05:20] <tetsueo> ok i think i got the driver to install :)
[05:20] <barongas> Anyone have their 3.5" Floppies working under ubuntu?
[05:21] <jsubl2> ClayG, right click in the terminal and edit your profile
[05:21] <deFrysk> ClayG, system>settings>screenresolution
[05:21] <gfxstyler> LjL: the opensource ati drivers are bad
[05:21] <LjL> which is what happened with my Kyro II -- i have an ancient Matrox, on the other hand, that's perfectly supported (for the little it can do)
[05:21] <msg43> HI
[05:21] <Eternalist> deFrysk: wait that didnt work, voluem control is still invisible.
[05:21] <msg43> what is the best way to patch a ubuntu kernel?
[05:21] <LjL> gfxstyler: and there are *no* open-source drivers for *any* kind of nVidia?
[05:21] <tetsueo> if i see the nvidia splash screen at start up that means the driver has been installed correctly yes ?
[05:21] <ClayG> tried the edit profile dont see a size option in there
[05:21] <LjL> ... nvidia splash screen? oh my god
[05:21] <penguin42> LjL: If you luck at the ATI or Nvidia drivers you can see that there is quite a range of cards supported over a few years, so the chance of lack of support after say 3 or 4 years *should* be slim
[05:22] <deFrysk> Eternalist, insert the notification applet in the panel
[05:22] <gfxstyler> LjL: i dont know, but i dont care because a. opensource drivers would be way slower than the original ones, and b. why search for opensource drivers if the binary ones work like a charm and very fast?
[05:22] <n0dl> Will keybinds work if you lock the screen?
[05:22] <deFrysk> if not there that is
[05:22] <Eternalist> OH
[05:22] <Eternalist> thanks lol
[05:22] <ClayG> and screen resulotion seems to only deal with or at least there is only the option of changing the screen size
[05:22] <ClayG> no terminal options
[05:22] <deFrysk> Eternalist, ;p
[05:22] <Wibble-> there are open source drivers of non-accelerated kind for nvidia cards - but no accelerated
[05:22] <_jason> ClayG, you can try devilspie, it gives you a lot of options for making windows go where you want etc.
[05:22] <n0dl> anyone know?
[05:23] <LjL> gfxstyler: because of support, even though penguin says there is a good chance that support will continue. you see, for my current card, there *are* Linux binary drivers, but they're only for kernel 2.4, they don't intend to support 2.6 -- duh!
[05:23] <gfxstyler> LjL: you have to choose between if you are a opensource freak or you want usability, which means that you actually want to use the card
[05:23] <msg43> what is the best way to patch a ubuntu kernel?
[05:23] <Wibble-> "nv" seems to be a standard driver for X (or atleast included in all the distros)
[05:23] <LjL> this is exactly what i don't want to happend
[05:23] <dell500> anyone here ever use YamiPod?
[05:23] <ClayG> thanks _J I'll look into that
[05:23] <penguin42> gfxstyler: I agree in practice you have to go with the binary ones; but it does leave you open to questions of whether you'll be able to use the driver in n-years time on some new wacky kernel
[05:23] <n0dl> does anyone here use keybinds?
[05:24] <barongas> What file format would a windows-made floppy be in?
[05:24] <penguin42> vfat
[05:24] <deFrysk> vfat yes
[05:24] <_jason> ClayG, however documentation is severely lacking.  There is a howto on the forums for the version in the repos.  The more recent version, if you decide to build it from source, is a complete rewrite though and the config files are in a different format.
[05:24] <gfxstyler> penguin42: well thats true but in a few years you could buy a new budget card for 30$ or something like that that has support
[05:24] <LjL> Penguin, Wibble-: so, anyway, if support stopped for the binary drivers, there would still be the open-source (though less performant) "nv" drivers, is that correct?
[05:24] <Digis> !java\
[05:24] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Digis
[05:24] <Digis> !java
[05:24] <msg43> oh great xorg keeps on messing up
[05:24] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:24] <msg43> fuckin ubuntu
[05:24] <johndarkhorse> msg43: please watch your language
[05:24] <pierro_> hi
[05:24] <gfxstyler> LjL: but why should nvidia stop supporting the linux drivers?
[05:24] <penguin42> gfxstyler: Not necessarily that will support your current motherboard; I mean I was looking at this machine - it is 4 years old and I was looking at perhaps a new card - its AGP4x max on the board and I'm not sure what will be happy with it
[05:25] <msg43> johndarkhorse, well I'm pissed to hell!
[05:25] <barongas> thanks
[05:25] <msg43> xorg keeps fing up!
[05:25] <johndarkhorse> msg43: vulgar language helps nobodys attitude
[05:25] <LjL> gfxstyler: i have no idea, but things can change i suppose... why should PowerVR stop supporting their linux drivers? but they did
[05:25] <penguin42> gfxstyler: What happens if they were to stop supporting 32 bit say?
[05:25] <msg43> Ok who can help me
[05:25] <msg43> I runt eh nvida configure tool
[05:25] <msg43> when I reboot xorg just craps out again
[05:25] <deFrysk> msg43, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and run the defaults
[05:26] <LjL> anyway, can confirm that there are open-source drivers called "nv" that work with nVidia chipset, even though they're less performant than the propertary ones?
[05:26] <jenda> msg43: Watch - your - mouth!
[05:26] <johndarkhorse> msg43: when you run the reconfigure, choose VESA as the driver, until you can get the nvidia sorted
[05:26] <gfxstyler> LjL: but nvidia is a big company, i never heard of powervr ... i cant tell you im no wizard hehe :)
[05:26] <deFrysk> !tell msg43 about nvidia
[05:26] <penguin42> gfxstyler: Or not supporting that card on 32 bit machines?
[05:26] <msg43> johndarkhorse, it works well but as soon as a reboot hits it goes crazy again
[05:26] <LjL> gfxstyler: PowerVR made the driver for the Kyro chipset, i suppose, my card is actually a Hercules
[05:26] <deFrysk> msg43, do you happen to have an old tnt nvidia card ?
[05:26] <msg43> it happens after I installed devel tools
[05:26] <Eternalist> deFrysk: lol sorry to bother you man, but it still doesnt work.
[05:27] <msg43> deFrysk, I don't think so the laptop is pretty new
[05:27] <Eternalist> deFrysk: its really really thin, so i have to click up and down the bar to find the volume control and i went to preferences but theres nothing about icnreasing the size
[05:27] <LjL> gfxstyler: Hercules 3D Prophet Something using a Kyro II chipset. sorry if i'm vague, i just know little about graphics cards :)
[05:27] <gfxstyler> penguin42: when they stop supporting 32 bit support then 32bit system will be deprecated too ... i mean who is still gonna use 32bit in the next 10 years or so?
[05:27] <johndarkhorse> msg43: are you choosing the VESA driver?
[05:27] <deFrysk> then read ubotus message and check if your screentype is recongnized
[05:27] <msg43> johndarkhorse, no!
[05:27] <MachineScrew> bmrtin, hey
[05:28] <msg43> but it worked untill I installed devel tools to compile a program
[05:28] <penguin42> gfxstyler: Well the machine behind me is 10 years old and is running as my firewall still; this machine is 4 years old and is still good going
[05:28] <Eternalist> msg43: why are you compiling anything? use apt-get
[05:28] <deFrysk> Eternalist, try another theme perhaps its locked due to an upgrade
[05:28] <tcmjr> Anyone know a good source of information to install ubuntu with linux ? I would be installing to a 2nd hdd where i store my music.
[05:28] <msg43> Eternalist, cause app doesn't have what i want
[05:28] <TenPlus1> will Ubuntu 5.10 install on a SATA drive ???
[05:28] <johndarkhorse> msg43: use the VESA driver until you can get your nvidia sorted
[05:28] <penguin42> TenPlus1: Yes
[05:28] <jsubl2> TenPlus1, yes  did on mine
[05:28] <johndarkhorse> TenPlus1: it will install on SATA
[05:28] <gfxstyler> penguin32: a firewall does not need 3d so you could go with the opensource drivers then (which do not support 3d yet/ or badly)
[05:28] <rebo> trying to set up a XP x64 and kUbuntu triple boot,
[05:28] <rebo> x64 boots by grub loading ntldr and x64 works from that, but XP doesnt
[05:29] <rebo> 1 sata drive and 1 ide drive in machine
[05:29] <rebo> all 3 oses on the sata
[05:29] <rebo> any idea ?>
[05:29] <Eternalist> deFrysk: yeah i tried another theme and it worked..so whats the deal then? i cant have my other theme anymore!?
[05:29] <jenda> Anyone know the CLI command for user renaming in Linux?
[05:29] <penguin42> gfxstyler: if you are lucky - I mean what happens if the 2D drivers for the card were binary only?
[05:29] <msg43> wel lI need to get is orted now
[05:30] <LjL> gfxstyler: well, keep in mind that i'm not a "get that new computer right now" type, quite the opposite. i've just gotten a cheap AMD Sempron, but i was using a K6-300Mhz until few months ago. i'm used to go with old hardware --- it's just that *some* old hardware stays "future-proof" (i.e. supported), some doesn't
[05:30] <johndarkhorse> rebo: edit your grubs menu.lst
[05:30] <Eternalist> deFrysk: or should i reinstall the theme, its a default one its called amaranth
[05:30] <rebo> yeah i have been playing with that all morning
[05:30] <mdjake> hello, I'd like to connect 2 ubuntu machine with ralink chipped WLAN cards
[05:30] <rebo> no combination of map's and rootnoverifys seem to work ;/
[05:30] <deFrysk> Eternalist, amaranth seems to lack the icon then :(
[05:30] <Eternalist> LjL: are you my twin, i just ugraded to a sempron recently too i had a p2 300 mhz klamath
[05:30] <Eternalist> deFrysk: can i copy the icon from another theme?
[05:31] <nud> the support of universe for hoary has been dropped ?
[05:31] <deFrysk> Eternalist, try to reinstall gnome-themes-extras and see it amaranth takes then
[05:31] <TenPlus1> Is it possible to share an internet connection through a wireless card to a WinXP laptop and share files/printer also using Ubuntu on main System ???
[05:31] <Taliesin-laptop> hehe, i got two P2 300 Klamaths in my server (SMP)
[05:31] <Taliesin-laptop> good little cpu,s 512k L2 Cache each too :D
[05:31] <MachineScrew> is there a way to tell nautilus not to load a background
[05:31] <LjL> Eternalist: heh ;) well actually that K6 300Mhz wasn't even mine, it was given to me by a (3d-fanatic) friend of mine out of pity -- *my* computer was a K6 233MHz, downclocked to 200MHz because of overhearing :)
[05:31] <LjL> heating
[05:32] <rebo> ouch
[05:32] <gfxstyler> LjL: how about a new cpu fan then :)
[05:32] <Taliesin-laptop> ;)
[05:32] <joe__> what does this mean: Warning: can't initialize sound (reason: No available audio device).
[05:32] <gfxstyler> joe__: it means that your soundcard is not found
[05:32] <ClayG> it means you have no monitor
[05:32] <gfxstyler> LOL
[05:32] <Taliesin-laptop> :P
[05:32] <LjL> gfxstyler: nah, no way that would make things better... problem was, i had run the thing without a heat dissipator for like 6 months, without noticing =)  the dissipator had detached from the processor
[05:32] <joe__> gfxstyler: but  have audio fine in xwindows
[05:32] <mdjake> TenPlus1, I'm trying the same that you'd like to
[05:33] <deFrysk> joe__, do you have a build in soundcard but use a external soundcard ?
[05:33] <Eternalist> LjL: ever try playing cs with that thing lol, did you have 64 mb ram too?
[05:33] <gfxstyler> joe__: in windows?
[05:33] <Eternalist> LjL: or an nvidia riva 128
[05:33] <joe__> deFrysk: built in
[05:33] <deFrysk> joe__, and use it too ?
[05:33] <msg43> ok
[05:33] <gfxstyler> joe__: maybe you did not install a driver for your soundcard in linux? there are many things which work on windows and not in linux
[05:33] <mdjake> TenPlus1, what chipset your wlan card has?
[05:33] <jefletcher> yo, my alsa mixer says all my items are [off] 
[05:33] <jefletcher> how do i turn them on?
[05:33] <msg43> the Nvidia drivers are not working :(
[05:33] <LjL> Eternalist: i started with 16 megs of ram, but it has (i think) 192 megs when i stopped using it. graphics-cards-wide, i used Matrox cards (Mystique and Millennium) almost exclusively
[05:33] <gfxstyler> msg43: what gfx card do you have?
[05:34] <deFrysk> msg43, is your screen recognized ?
[05:34] <rohan> hi all
[05:34] <Eternalist> LjL: wow man, did you try surviving off 14 k ? haahah
[05:34] <rohan> just installed ubuntu
[05:34] <TenPlus1> mdjake: Asus WL-138g... I have to use ndiswrapper, but it screws ubuntu up when I use card
[05:34] <Eternalist> i tried
[05:34] <Eternalist> then i got 56k netzero free 10 hours a month, but if u keep reinstalling u keep getting the hours back :)
[05:34] <joe__> gfxstyler:  i have a craetive labs audigy pcmia card too but it just crashes when i plug it in
[05:34] <ClayG> btw - Changing default terminal size in gnome, looks like it takes changing , /usr/share/vte/termcap/xterm
[05:34] <msg43> gfxstyler, I dunno a laptop card :D
[05:34] <rohan> now, can someone please gimme an optimum list of packages to make my ubuntu "multimedia ready" ? no rtfm, please :)
[05:34] <jefletcher> yo, my alsa mixer says all my items are [off]  -- how do I turn them on? at the moment I have no sound so it must be this...
[05:34] <LjL> Eternalist: modem, you mean? no, i had a 33.6kbps until i switched to 10mbps fiber optics (quite a change ;)
[05:34] <msg43> I can tell you when my machine reboots
[05:35] <ClayG> in it are the specs for the size it will launch
[05:35] <gfxstyler> joe__: http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=%22creative+labs+audigy%22+%22linux+driver%22+pcmcia&spell=1
[05:35] <Marlun> Since Ubuntu is based on debian, whats the difference between a clean debian installation and a ubuntu installation?
[05:35] <msg43> gfxstyler, it worked before I installed devel tools
[05:35] <MachineScrew> is there a way to tell nautilus not to load a background
[05:35] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell rohan about multimedia
[05:35] <rohan> Marlun: lots. ubuntu is not even binary compatible with debian.
[05:35] <gfxstyler> msg43: just because you install the devel tools you cant crash your system
[05:35] <rohan> johndarkhorse: lol, that was rtfm :D
[05:35] <LjL> Marlun: ubuntu is *based* on debian, which specifically means that the sources are synched with debian's every 6 months, but then they get modified by the Ubuntu team as they feel like. also, there are packages in Ubuntu that aren't in Debianb
[05:36] <gfxstyler> rohan: its not?
[05:36] <msg43> gfxstyler, well it screws up nvidia
[05:36] <gfxstyler> msg43: whats happening then? x does not start up?
[05:36] <rohan> gfxstyler: iirc, yes. its not.
[05:36] <Eternalist> rohan: get xine-ui and beep-media-player
[05:36] <Eternalist> there you go
[05:36] <rohan> pardon if i am wrong :)
[05:36] <rohan> Eternalist: lol ... ty :)
[05:36] <mdjake> TenPlus1, mine is MSI cb54g2 and MSI pc54g2
[05:36] <gfxstyler> rohan: i always thought it did when using warty (now using breezy, i dont know)
[05:36] <johndarkhorse> rohan is correct, ubuntu is based on debian SOURCE, and is not binary compatible
[05:36] <mdjake> TenPlus1, both are rt2500 chipsetted
[05:36] <msg43> gfxstyler, it looks like xorg trys to start I see the nvidia screen for a few secs and then it says it can't start xorg and dumps me in to terminal
[05:36] <Marlun> rohan, LjL: okey, thanks :)
[05:37] <johndarkhorse> gfxstyler: warty was the closest ubuntu to debian there was
[05:37] <mdjake> TenPlus1, but unfortunately rt2x00 doesn't support Access Point mode
[05:37] <gfxstyler> msg43: so you changed the xorg.conf already? whats the error output?
[05:37] <msg43> I think I ahve a GeForce 4 4200 Go 32M
[05:37] <TenPlus1> mdjake: I'm trying to use ad-hoc only ???
[05:37] <msg43> gfxstyler, well I used the nvidia auto tool
[05:37] <rohan> gfxstyler: warty may have been, but breezy is not. :)
[05:37] <mdjake> TenPlus1, however I was said that connection sharing can be done (here on ubuntu irc)
[05:38] <gfxstyler> msg43: what error does X complain about then?
[05:38] <MachineScrew> is there a way to tell nautilus not to load a background
[05:38] <rohan> gfxstyler: atleast not with sarge ;)
[05:38] <msg43> oh great now dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is freezing
[05:38] <msg43> I hate ubuntu!!!!
[05:38] <mdjake> TenPlus1, how do you use ad-hoc?
[05:38] <rohan> lol, some people say that debian is not binary compatible with itself.
[05:38] <rebo> aha
[05:38] <LjL> Eternalist: oh, by the way, i would probably still be using my trusted (and very sharp!) Matrox, if AGP 1x or whatever was supported on this motherboard =) it was actually a bad surprise when i discovered that the AGP slot wasn't backwards compatible..
[05:38] <gfxstyler> MachineScrew: you can remove a background the same like you choose it
[05:38] <rohan> msg43: lol, try another distro. mepis.
[05:38] <TenPlus1> mdjake: on my WinXP system, both computers are setup as Ad-Hoc (pc to pc) only... the main computer is sharing the internet and files to the laptop...
[05:38] <TenPlus1> I want to be able to use ubuntu to do the same...
[05:39] <gfxstyler> msg43: well i use it on my two computers, one ati and one nvidia, works like a charm
[05:39] <msg43> rohan, mepis sucks drives me nutty
[05:39] <Eternalist> LjL: lol
[05:39] <msg43> gfxstyler, do you have any devel tools isntalled
[05:39] <rebo> all linux distros suffer from the fact that their windows managers suck:(
[05:39] <Eternalist> LjL: minewas onboard, like i said, riva 128
[05:39] <gfxstyler> msg43: im developing myself so yes i have a lot installed
[05:39] <rohan> msg43: lol, then try a non debian distro.
[05:39] <mdjake> TenPlus1, looks like your and my card will work only in ad-hoc for a while
[05:39] <msg43> then why doesn't it work
[05:39] <TenPlus1> mdjake: why does it only work fo a while ?
[05:39] <runge-> hi. I am new to ubuntu and especialy usb wlan. can anybody tell me where to start (want to install wlan with usb adapter from TOPCOM)
[05:39] <mdjake> I'm here to ask about ad-hoc connecting too
[05:39] <rohan> why is multiverse disabled in breezy by default ?
[05:40] <gfxstyler> msg43: as i said, could you copy&paste the error X complains about?
[05:40] <LjL> Eternalist: yeah, well, i never had a motherboard with an on-board gfx card... this one i've gotten now doesn't have one, either -- i could get one that did, but this one on the other hand had many (5) PCI slots, 3 (instead of 2) RAM slots, and things like that
[05:40] <mdjake> TenPlus1, needs further kernel development of some IEEE stack as I understand
[05:40] <TenPlus1> will this be on mandrake when it's released ?
[05:40] <mdjake> TenPlus1, but ad-hoc work for some guys here
[05:40] <gfxstyler> rohan: because it was disabled in warty and breezy too :) i think multi/universe are not entirely free software
[05:40] <raingrove> hello guys..
[05:40] <msg43> gfxstyler, ok can you help me one on one
[05:40] <jefletcher> yo, my alsa mixer says all my items are [off]  -- how do I turn them on? at the moment I have no sound so it must be this...
[05:40] <mdjake> The guy callled P...something I don't remember
[05:41] <msg43> I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:41] <msg43> gfxstyler, maybe you can be so kind an pm me?
[05:41] <raingrove> can anyone help me with setting up knotify to make sounds without Arts? (I am trying to get my kopete make notification sounds in Xfce4)
[05:41] <MachineScrew> gfxstyler, no I want to use E17s background
[05:41] <LjL> Eternalist: it does have a built-in soundcard, and i'm using that one, unfortunately, as my *very* loved SB AWE64 can't work off a PCI slot... ;)
[05:41] <mdjake> TenPlus1, he told me he shares his connection through wlan with Ubuntu
[05:41] <rohan> gfxstyler: no, atleast multiverse was mentioned it warty and hoary. in breezy, its not even mentiones.
[05:41] <gfxstyler> jefletcher: if you run alsamixer in the console and press M on each setting, the [off]  or [mute]  should go away
[05:41] <mdjake> TenPlus1, unfortunatley he is not here now :(
[05:42] <msg43> gfxstyler, can you go step by step with me?
[05:42] <TenPlus1> mdjake; I will wait until drake is developed more and maybe use that... but I do like Ubuntu a lot
[05:43] <penguin42> raingrove: In the end Arts is what KDE is designed to use - but I think you could run Arts without the rest of KDE
[05:43] <rohan> gfxstyler, msg43 : join #msg43-problem .. so you both can hear and see each other clearly XD
[05:43] <jenda> How do I enable root quickly in Ubuntu?
[05:43] <gfxstyler> msg43: i guess the ubuntu wiki has a pretty good documentation about how to setup nvidia 3d acceleration (thats how i did it)
[05:43] <Xenguy> jenda: sudo -i
[05:43] <mdjake> TenPlus1, problem is more general than distro specific - current Linux kernels doesn't give support for master mode - only Prism2/3 chipsetted cards can do that with an app called HostAP
[05:44] <gfxstyler> jenda: sure you want to do it?
[05:44] <gfxstyler> jenda: sudo passwd root
[05:44] <raingrove> penguin42, :'( i am not exactly running KDE, i am running XFCE4 and i dont want to setup arts
[05:44] <jenda> gfxstyler: quite
[05:44] <msg43> gfxstyler, I've been following it
[05:44] <msg43> so hopefully you can go stpe by step
[05:44] <TenPlus1> XFCE4 is pretty good, I liked the Popcorn Slax linus
[05:44] <zx80user> penguin42 got one already thanks
[05:44] <jenda> gfxstyler: thanx. I enter "sudo passwd root" to set the root password, right?
[05:44] <Xenguy> TenPlus1: what is popcorn slax linus ?
[05:45] <gfxstyler> jenda: yes
[05:45] <zx80user> penguin42 and my 8k ROM
[05:45] <Stormx2> jenda: Check the wiki
[05:45] <TenPlus1> will there ever be an Ubuntu lite that uses XFCE as the desktop managere ???
[05:45] <jenda> gfxstyler: And how do I disable it then?
[05:45] <penguin42> zx80user: The extravegance of it....
[05:45] <mipe> Where Can I change size icons on Desktop?
[05:45] <TenPlus1> Xenguy: Slax Linux (Popcorn Edition) is a tiny Live CD that boots into XFCE and gives u basic program for web and multimedia
[05:45] <gfxstyler> msg43: just do a "apt-get install nvidia-glx" or how the nvidia drivers are called, then do a "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and edit the line in "section device" -> column "driver" from "nv" to "nvidia", save it and then do a restart
[05:45] <Xenguy> TenPlus1: it's being worked on AFAIK
[05:45] <mdjake> anybody here can tell how to connect two ubuntu box with ad-hoc wlan connection?
[05:46] <zx80user> penguin42 what a day that was when my 16k RAM pack arrived. Course, tell the youth of today you used to write z80 machine code for 1k boxes and they laugh in your face
[05:46] <gfxstyler> jenda: if you do that you can use "su" which is what you wanted or did i misunderstand you?
[05:46] <Xenguy> TenPlus1: I have xfce4 installed on Ubu right now (on an older laptop)
[05:46] <Xenguy> TenPlus1: I like it
[05:46] <penguin42> zx80user: I'll have to admit to being brought up on a 6502
[05:46] <Eternalist> does xine support the kvcd format?
[05:46] <Stormx2> !wiki RootSudo
[05:46] <MachineScrew> I want to use E17s background. I don't want nautilus to control the background how can I achive this
[05:46] <LjL> zx80user: i've been writing a ZX Spectrum operating system, but that was in C ;-)
[05:46] <raingrove> i guess i should give up on kopete then
[05:46] <raingrove> :'(
[05:46] <jenda> gfxstyler: not really I want to log into gnome to be able to manipulate the main users. It's not really for me - it's for nodl
[05:46] <TenPlus1> :) I used to use bbLean on Windows but it was giving me troubles... Explorer kept screwing around with the system because it wasnt default explorer
[05:47] <msg43> gfxstyler, thanks I'll try
[05:47] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell TenPlus1 about xubuntu
[05:47] <zx80user> penguin42 get thee behind me satan. Rich kid with a PET eh?
[05:47] <penguin42> zx80user: Nah later, a model B
[05:47] <TenPlus1> xubuntu ?
[05:47] <jenda> Stormx2: that didn't work :)
[05:47] <Stormx2> jenda: It did, it just pmed me it.
[05:47] <zx80user> penguin42 still the enemy :)
[05:47] <penguin42> :-)
[05:47] <jenda> Stormx2: ah cool
[05:48] <Xenguy> TenPlus1: I didn't need xubuntu (a work in progress AFAICT) either; just install xfce4 main package
[05:48] <msg43> ubuntu should use a rolling upgrade system
[05:48] <LjL> msg43: like what?
[05:48] <raingrove> what i did was to install Ubuntu base system without X windows or GNOME or whatever
[05:48] <raingrove> then install xwindows and xfce4 manually
[05:49] <msg43> LjL, well I use archlinux as my main distro it when there a new package it will be update automatically
[05:49] <Stormx2> ...why?
[05:49] <Wibble-> Where can I download ubuntu packages from? (I'm using debian on the net-connected PC)
[05:49] <raingrove> oh it seems like there is something called xubuntu now
[05:49] <raingrove> lol
[05:49] <msg43> ok when I use nvidia instead of nv xorg starts but I get a blank screen
[05:49] <raingrove> din notice
[05:49] <zx80user> LjL still a rich kids computer - you had sound!!!
[05:49] <penguin42> msg43: Well you could always use debian/sid or sit on the dev branch of ubuntu - but you know it is nice to have some stability!
[05:49] <LjL> msg43: well the "automatically" part is there in Ubuntu, it's just that Ubuntu has this 6-months release cycle... but you still get bugfixes, security fixes and also backports if you want
[05:50] <penguin42> Wibble-: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[05:50] <LjL> zx80user: and *good* sound too! :-P but i must say i never really liked the C64 too much. what i *did* fall in love with was my Amiga, later
[05:50] <Wibble-> thanks penguin42
[05:50] <jenda> gfxstyler: will sudo -i do that?
[05:50] <raingrove> ??
[05:51] <raingrove> yes?
[05:51] <msg43> ok well nvidia aint working
[05:51] <gfxstyler> back
[05:51] <akaGod> does anybody know of an alternative for: http://www.jufsoft.com/badcopy/
[05:51] <gfxstyler> god i hate newbies
[05:51] <Stormx2> !nvidia
[05:51] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:51] <Stormx2> gfxstyler: Why?
[05:51] <Wibble-> gfxstyler: you were one once ;)
[05:51] <mahangu_> gfxstyler, thats a bad attitude for a channel like this then
[05:51] <msg43> I folled the guides
[05:51] <msg43> gfxstyler, I'm not anoob
[05:51] <msg43> it not fuckin working
[05:52] <msg43> I change nvd to nvidia
[05:52] <msg43> or what every that first thing ws
[05:52] <gfxstyler> Stormx2: when you dont help them they complain about that you dont help them. when you actually do help them, they try to flame you because they dont understand the stuff you tried to tell them
[05:52] <mahangu_> msg43, calm, down, nobody called you a noob
[05:52] <TenPlus1> raingrove: can I see a screenshot of your Ubuntu desktop pls ?
[05:52] <msg43> I get a blank screen when I use nvidia driver
[05:52] <Stormx2> gfxstyler: So don't sink to their level
[05:52] <raingrove> TenPlus1 : oh sure
[05:52] <gfxstyler> attention: this was not linux related (i was talking about some idiots in a programming forum)
[05:52] <TenPlus1> :)
[05:53] <msg43> sorry johndarkhorse
[05:53] <Wibble-> penguin42: are there any archives with a web interface similar to debians one which shows the package dependencies so I can check what I need to d/l ?
[05:53] <msg43> I'm just very angry cause I can't get xorg to work
[05:53] <gfxstyler> guess that was a misunderstanding :)
[05:53] <greenpenguin13> runs away from ***penguin42
[05:53] <jenda> gfxstyler: Any idea how to do that as simply as possible?
[05:53] <penguin42> Wibble-: Not sure
[05:53] <jenda> gfxstyler: I mean be able to manipulate with /home/ dirs from a third person (ie root)?
[05:53] <msg43> gfxstyler, I'm going into the recovery mode to edit xorg
[05:53] <msg43> cause I'm not sure whats wrong
[05:54] <msg43> I just get a blank screen
[05:54] <Stormx2> msg43: Did you check the wiki page?
[05:54] <gfxstyler> jenda: sure, do you want it to do in a console or GUI ?
[05:54] <Stormx2> msg43: on nvidia
[05:54] <LjL> msg43: can't you get to text mode?
[05:54] <gfxstyler> jenda: for gui, you have to enable root in GDM, because its not enabled by default
[05:54] <msg43> LjL, not when xorg start with the nvidia settings
[05:54] <greenpenguin13> i cant seem to get anything above a share ratin of 0.000 on bittorrent :-$
[05:54] <LjL> msg43: i see
[05:54] <msg43> Stormx2, yes I did I follwe dthat about 100 times
[05:55] <jenda> gfxstyler: GUI is preferable, because I'm helping a guy through IRC
[05:55] <jenda> gfxstyler: But I guess I figured out a way
[05:55] <Stormx2> gksudo nautilus?
[05:55] <msg43> I'm thinkg the Sync rates are wrong
[05:56] <jenda> gfxstyler: Make a third dummy sudoer account from which I'll do that.
[05:56] <gfxstyler> Stormx2: damn its that easy i didnt even thought about that
[05:56] <Stormx2> ;-)
[05:56] <greenpenguin13> i think my router may be stopping bittorrent working correctly...
[05:56] <Stormx2> greenpenguin13: Forward some ports then ;-)
[05:56] <mahangu_> greenpenguin13, port forwarding
[05:56] <mahangu_> heh
[05:56] <mahangu_> sorry lag
[05:57] <Stormx2> see portforward.com
[05:57] <greenpenguin13> thanks
[05:57] <Stormx2> no i just type faster ;-)
[05:57] <gfxstyler> msg43: i think you are better of reinstalling ubuntu (if its just a fresh install)
[05:57] <akaGod> I burnt some DVD's at a speed that was too high for the discs, as a result I can't get back some of the data on the dvd's.... I know I was stupid. The data on the DVD's is really improtant to me, is there a way to get it back ? I have heard good reports for badcopy ( http://www.jufsoft.com/badcopy/ ) but that is only windows only (it has been known to work with wine/cxoffice) but I would much prefer a native linux solution. You know any al
[05:57] <akaGod> ternatives?
[05:57] <jefletcher> yo, my alsa mixer says all my items are [off]  -- how do I turn them on? at the moment I have no sound so it must be this...
[05:57] <penguin42> akaGod: How much of it reads - is it just some files that die?
[05:58] <TenPlus1> I wonder if nero 7 will appear for Linux ?
[05:58] <Stormx2> akaGod: eek
[05:58] <msg43> gfxstyler, I'd say so but this is my second time reinstalling
[05:58] <msg43> b/c of the same issue
[05:58] <akaGod> penguin42, it is hit and miss.. some fiels read, some dont
[05:58] <gfxstyler> jefletcher: did you try to open up a console, then typing "alsamixer" or "alsa-mixer" and pressing M on each audio device?
[05:58] <Stormx2> msg43: Post on ubuntuforums.org with your system specs, video card, etc
[05:58] <jefletcher> gfxstyler: i'll try that
[05:59] <jenda> TenPlus1: Is nero better than the free stuff?
[05:59] <penguin42> akaGod: Well copy those files off and then try a few different readers to see if some are more forgiving
[05:59] <msg43> Stormx2, ok will do after I finish talking to hp chat support
[05:59] <gfxstyler> msg43: as i tried to install the ati drivers for the first time i had to reinstall linux for at least 30 times :) the advantage is you learn a lot (its quite a while ago, though)
[05:59] <Stormx2> jenda: not really...
[05:59] <rdancer> hi, where do i switch all system sound effects off?
[05:59] <akaGod> "different readers" ?
[05:59] <msg43> trying to find out the monitors vert and horiz syn rates
[05:59] <jenda> Stormx2: thought so
[05:59] <TenPlus1> jenda: yes, a lot better... I've used a lot of free burning / video tools and nero is a lot simpler to use, plus it has a few neat tric ks
[05:59] <raingrove> TenPlus1, Here's the screenshot of my desktop http://www.comp.nus.edu.sg/~kimjihoo/Screenshot.png
[05:59] <jefletcher> gfxstyler: still no sound =[
[05:59] <Stormx2> jenda: You can use Serpentine for audio or GNOMEBaker for anything else
[05:59] <raingrove> i just installed it today
[05:59] <msg43> gfxstyler, ok cause I'm not a noob I know what I'm doing I've never used debian based and nvidia before
[05:59] <msg43> so its a new advanter
[06:00] <slew> so did ubuntu-unregged get owned?
[06:00] <gfxstyler> jefletcher: that just unmutes the device, you have to get up the volume too :) (pressing the UP key)
[06:00] <jenda> Stormx2: that's exactly what I do. Sometimes Gbaker is better even for audio
[06:00] <Stormx2> jenda: Or there is the command-line tool called cdrecord
[06:00] <TenPlus1> raingrove: looks kewl... :) xfcd rocks...
[06:00] <melodramatic> what should i do if i want to use my logitech webcam?
[06:00] <gfxstyler> msg43: you could use the driver from the nvidia page too, i think its .run so not  distribution related
[06:00] <raingrove> it's super fast man
[06:01] <Stormx2> jenda: I find that.
[06:01] <jefletcher> gfxstyler: ye done that too, I get an error on windows, that says "DirectSound device not found" or somthing, but my microphone still works, it just doesnt play the recording
[06:01] <jefletcher> also, songs playing in LimeWire work
[06:01] <jenda> Stormx2: never tried that. I was just curious if Nero is worth breaking my no-non-free-soft rule...
[06:01] <akaGod> penguin42, I can't copy the files because I get Input/Output errors
[06:01] <Stormx2> raingrove: Let me see
[06:01] <gfxstyler> melodramatic: try to find out what cam it exactly is
[06:01] <penguin42> akaGod: Yeh but you can copy some of them?
[06:01] <akaGod> so there is just a file with 0 bytes
[06:01] <TenPlus1> I like using FairUse Wizard 2.0 for ripping DVD movies to .ogm... but I cant seem to find anything better on Linux at the moment
[06:01] <msg43> gfxstyler, I might cause I think I might have to patch the kernel for the laptop touch pad
[06:01] <raingrove> Stormx2, xfce4 just installed it today :P http://www.comp.nus.edu.sg/~kimjihoo/Screenshot.png
[06:01] <akaGod> penguin42,  yeah
[06:01] <Stormx2> jenda: Hell, if you have mp3 decoders, you are breaking the non-free software rule ;-)
[06:01] <akaGod> penguin42, the ones that copy are fine
[06:02] <jenda> Stormx2: I know... I try to use ogg whenever I can.
[06:02] <The_Isle_of_Mark> lo all
[06:02] <melodramatic> gfxstyler, its this one QuickCam Pro 3000
[06:02] <Stormx2> raingrove: Ah. I have xfce4, I'm a gnome fanboy though
[06:03] <greenpenguin13> hmm.  Iv now got a share rating of 0.022, but I haven't actually changed anything :-$
[06:03] <TenPlus1> that's why I use Ogg Vorbis a lot
[06:03] <raingrove> Stormx2, xfce4 is really fast:)
[06:03] <ClayG> anything similar to dvdshrink for nix?
[06:03] <gnomefreak> xfce is perfect not to light and not to heavy :)
[06:03] <penguin42> akaGod: OK, get those off first - I seem to remember there is a varient of dd somewhere that can ignore bad blocks - but I can't remember where
[06:03] <ClayG> or svcd2dvd+tmpgenc?
[06:04] <sambagirl> this is awful boring song spectral
[06:04] <raingrove> see ya guys
[06:04] <Stormx2> raingrove: GNOME is pretty nippy too ;-)
[06:04] <akaGod> penguin42, I would be very gratefull if you could rememeber
[06:05] <pztak> Ubuntu used to automatically mount my external usb drive to /media/usbdisk.. I added an entry in /etc/fstab for /dev/sda1 to mount to /media/Photos and it now wont mount automatically anymore (i have to mount /dev/sda1).. Any ideas? (when it mounts, it mounts to the right dir, but still shows "140GB Volume" rather than Photos in Places
[06:05] <ISOcrates> can someone help me get a slave drive working on my ubuntu box?
[06:05] <gfxstyler> damn im taking a whole buttload of flames right now :)
[06:05] <ClayG> or flashget, is there a nix D/L manager that will let you bring all links up on a page, then sort the ones that are actual files so you dont have to manually check box's?
[06:05] <msg43> well I got debug info
[06:06] <penguin42> ISOcrates: Whats the problem? IDE slave you mean?
[06:06] <ISOcrates> i have the jumper on properly and i booted in fine but i need to know how to mount the slave drive
[06:06] <gfxstyler> ClayG: downloader4x and firefox flashgot plugin
[06:06] <ISOcrates> penguin42, yeah
[06:06] <penguin42> akaGod: It is called ddrescue - install the ddrescue package
[06:06] <akaGod> cheers penguin42
[06:06] <penguin42> ISOcrates: So whats the problem?
[06:06] <melodramatic> gfxstyler,  but the webcam works nicefully using gnome meeting so the driver might be up and running correctly... i need an apps to take pictures :)
[06:07] <TenPlus1> my Intel CS-110 usb webcam crashes Ubuntu 5.10 when I try to use it
[06:07] <ISOcrates> penguin42: i don't know how to access it.  do i have to change something in the bios?  i also don't know where to look for it or how to mount it
[06:07] <gfxstyler> melodramatic: if the cam works nice with gnomemeeting, then everything is alright :) you could just take a screenshot for example
[06:07] <penguin42> ISOcrates: OK, you should find that if your primary drive is hda then that one should be /dev/hdb - if you do a    cat /proc/partitions   do you see any hdb lines?
[06:08] <xsimos> Which command line command shows in which package a specific file belongs?
[06:08] <penguin42> xsimos: dpkg -S
[06:08] <xsimos> penguin42: cheers :)
[06:08] <ISOcrates> penguin42: yeah i see hdb and hdb1
[06:08] <penguin42> ISOcrates: Good
[06:09] <melodramatic> gfxstyler,  thats what i though id do :) thx alot sir
[06:09] <gfxstyler> melodramatic: youre welcome
[06:10] <penguin42> ISOcrates: So you can go to the 'Disks' program on System->Administration menu and mount it, or if you prefer you can edit /etc/fstab to mount it somewhere
[06:10] <Frederick> folks wich is the package for umbrello?
[06:10] <Frederick> is it in the ordinary repositories?
[06:10] <penguin42> it is in universe
[06:10] <gfxstyler> Frederick: synaptic supports searching for packages, but maybe you have to activate universe/multiverse
[06:10] <ISOcrates> penguin42: awesome.  how do i get it to automount everytime?
[06:11] <Frederick> gfxstyler, can you give me the link for the how to?
[06:11] <Xenguy> Frederick: apt-cache search umbrello
[06:11] <msg43> HI
[06:11] <msg43> gfxstyler, what is the basic nivida driver that default one?
[06:11] <msg43> is it NV, ND?
[06:11] <penguin42> ISOcrates: An entry in /etc/fstab is done everytime you boot - I think that pretty disc tool will set that up for you, but I've never used the pretty tool
[06:11] <penguin42> nv
[06:11] <kandoora> does anyone have this problem with a wireless dsl:  it takes some time until a website starts loading
[06:11] <akaGod> penguin42, cheers... it seems to be doing something (although its super processor intensive)
[06:11] <gfxstyler> msg43: nv
[06:11] <kandoora> i.e. it is intermitent
[06:12] <msg43> gfxstyler, thanks and is there anything i have to know when I compile my own kernel for ubuntu?
[06:13] <gfxstyler> msg43: yes, make an initrd
[06:13] <msg43> gfxstyler, is there a guide on making your own kernel
[06:13] <ISOcrates> penguin42: something like this?  /dev/hdb1   /mnt/newdisk  ext3    defaults     0 0
[06:13] <msg43> cause I know how to do it for a regular old linux system
[06:13] <Frederick> how do I enable multirvese?
[06:13] <gfxstyler> msg43: yes but its german, i dont know about a english one
[06:13] <msg43> oh
[06:13] <vbgunz> Hello everyone... Rhythmbox locks up (freezes) when playing an Internet radio station and the wifi connection drops for too long. Rhythmbox cannot recover and I have to kill it. Worse is, if I use Force Quit from the panel, it might still linger in memory and prevent another instance from starting up again. I will have to "killall rhythmbox" and try again which usually solves the problem. Anyone else experience this?
[06:14] <Xenguy> Frederick: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the line; then run apt-get update
[06:14] <msg43> does anyone know of a guide on how to make a kernel for ubuntu
[06:14] <deFrysk> vbgunz, imho rhythmox is kinda buggy
[06:14] <ecobuntu> msg43: google for kernel and debian
[06:15] <vbgunz> deFrysk: The only bug I found about it is the one I mentioned... I don't listen to music much but like streaming shoutcast stations... Then when the above happens, it sort of kills the fun :(
[06:16] <deFrysk> vbgunz, it does indeed too bad
[06:16] <Xenguy> Frederick: hrm, just realized I don't have multiverse enabled myself (only universe)
[06:16] <vbgunz> :(
[06:16] <Xenguy> !tell Frederick about multiverse
[06:18] <Rawplayer> anyone in here using bsd secure levels? on linux
[06:21] <yak> anybody knows how to make non-gnome window managers execute scripts at startup? (I usually do this through .xsession, but I don't see one here)
[06:21] <Xenguy> hrm, anyone know what the difference between Universe and Multiverse is?
[06:21] <Grangin> multiverse = nonfree
[06:21] <gfxstyler> yak: .xinitrc but you have to kick out GDM for that
[06:21] <rdancer> whenever i click a button, a drum-like sound is played. how do i get rid of it?
[06:21] <Xenguy> Grangin: OK, tx
[06:21] <rdancer> it's extremely utterly painfully annoying
[06:22] <gfxstyler> rdancer: you can turn it off in settings/audio
[06:22] <Grangin> Xenguy, nonfree as in speech, but it's free as in beer :)
[06:22] <Xenguy> Grangin: gotcha
[06:22] <gfxstyler> rdancer: i dont have a english ubuntu so i have to translate a little
[06:22] <deFrysk> or bongo's
[06:22] <deFrysk> whatever
[06:22] <yak> gfxstyler: just make a new .xinitrc file?
[06:23] <deFrysk> Xenguy, got speakers ?
[06:23] <rdancer> gfxstyler: how do i get there?
[06:23] <Xenguy> deFrysk: headphones/muzik are an exception of course
[06:23] <gfxstyler> yak: you can use gdm to select other desktop environments too
[06:23] <deFrysk> Xenguy, hehe
[06:23] <rdancer> gfxstyler: i have the mac-like top-of-the screen menu, right?
[06:23] <psychocat> rdancer: preference->sound
[06:23] <msg43> how can I uninstall a package via command line?
[06:23] <yak> gfxstyler: yeah, but then where do I put startup scripts?
[06:23] <Xenguy> msg43: apt-get remove package
[06:23] <ecobuntu> msg43: apt-get remove packagename --purge
[06:23] <psychocat> rdancer: system-.preferences-.sound
[06:23] <gfxstyler> rdancer: yes, then select computer/settings -> audio
[06:24] <Xenguy> msg43: --purge removes configuration files too
[06:24] <Grangin> does ubuntu work well with nforce2 chipsets, I'm thinking about trying out ubuntu since it's completely free :)
[06:24] <gfxstyler> yak: you mean scripts that are executed when X is launched? in .xinitrc :)
[06:24] <rdancer> "Sounds for events" unticked; thx psychocat gfxstyler
[06:24] <slew> can gnome do transparent windows, if so, how?
[06:24] <Talisker> yak, what distro?
[06:24] <yak> ubuntu
[06:24] <gfxstyler> slew: with X composite effects, its not gnome related
[06:24] <Xenguy> slew: aterm can (if that's what you mean)
[06:24] <msg43> thanks
[06:25] <gfxstyler> slew: but they are not stable, dont use them
[06:25] <psychocat> Grangin: you could download and try the live CD first, I'm pretty sure it works with nforce2
[06:25] <msg43> gfxstyler, I found someone with a similar problem that i have on the forums so I'm trying the solution righ tnow
[06:25] <_hello_> hi! how can I install a telephone modem ?
[06:25] <mustard5> _hello_, what type of modem?
[06:25] <gfxstyler> powernowd sucks
[06:26] <rdancer> is there a terminal emulator in the default install?
[06:26] <gfxstyler> rdancer: gnome-terminal
[06:26] <_hello_> mustard5, it is a modem which comes with a Dell computer already assembled
[06:26] <cmatheson> i keep getting 'could not open sound device' errors w/ some old-school games (fceu, ultima4, etc).  normal sound works (i'm using alsa for gaim, gstreamer, mplayer, etc), but i think i have issues w/ oss... any ideas
[06:26] <psychocat> rdancer: applications->accessories->terminal
[06:26] <cmatheson> oh, btw, i did a 'lsof /dev/dsp' and nothing was using the sound device at the time
[06:27] <mustard5> _hello_, so its an internal pci modem?
[06:27] <rdancer> gfxstyler, psychocat: thx; the location in the menu tree is weird...
[06:27] <Grangin> psychocat, that's a good idea :)
[06:27] <Xenguy> _hello_: if this is for dial-up, the 'minicom' may be useful (see 'man minicom' for details)
[06:27] <aroman> hi
[06:27] <LjL> what was the recommended (?) repository for bleeding-edge Wine? was it simply the WineHQ repository? (I thought it was in Ubotu, but it's not)
[06:27] <gfxstyler> hi
[06:28] <aroman> what filesystem type does an initrd filesystem use?
[06:28] <slew> gfxstyler, thanks
[06:28] <_hello_> mustard5, yes thats it
[06:28] <dr_willis> aroman,  i was thinking it was  compressed ext2
[06:29] <rdancer> wow, the Gnome App Install tells me the menu tree position of the newly installed apps -- cool
[06:29] <_hello_> Xenguy,
[06:29] <_hello_> dave@davelinux:~$ man minicom
[06:29] <_hello_> Aucune entre de manuel pour minicom
[06:29] <aroman> dr_willis, shoot... :(
[06:29] <LjL> _hello_: sudo aptitude install minicom
[06:29] <mustard5> _hello_, I think you need to determine whether its a winmodem.
[06:29] <_hello_> (command doesnt existe, nor the command "minicom")
[06:29] <Xenguy> _hello_: are you trying to setup dial-up then?
[06:29] <LjL> !tell _hello_ about repos
[06:29] <psychocat> LjL: check this out, should work http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996&highlight=wine
[06:29] <dr_willis> aroman,  however I think it can depend. googling now.. and a guy is comparng the other fs's - minix, cramfs, and so forth.
[06:29] <ISOcrates> what does it mean when a drive is listed in the file browser as 'x-special/device-block'?
[06:30] <aroman> dr_willis, I need to mount it on either windows or openbsd (my only 2 other machines) so I can modify it :(
[06:30] <psychocat> LjL: you can build it from CVS if you want the latest
[06:30] <mustard5> _hello_, try this site for assistance http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[06:30] <dr_willis> aroman,  that may be an issue then.
[06:30] <dr_willis> aroman,  try 'file  initrd.file' ?
[06:30] <LjL> psychocat: yep i know, but i don't want to compile it, i was just positive that some sort of bleeding-edge (or recent, anyway) repository was mentioned a few times here
[06:30] <dr_willis> initrd.img-2.6.12-9-686: gzip compressed data, from Unix, max compression
[06:31] <mustard5> _hello_, if its a 'controller-less' modem, then its probably specifically designed to run on windows only.  You may get it working on linux.  It depends on the brand.
[06:31] <aroman> dr_willis, ok, the ubuntu netboot initrd is a gzipped image of an ext2 file system. I managed to mount it from openbsd (which surprisingly supports mounting ext2)
[06:32] <dr_willis> aroman,  there maybe a Maz size to those things.
[06:32] <ISOcrates> can you mount NTFS drives in ubuntu?
[06:32] <somerville32> Sure
[06:32] <LjL> ISOcrates: yes, read-only
[06:32] <dr_willis> !ntfs
[06:32] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:32] <ISOcrates> thanks
[06:32] <somerville32> mount -t ntfs /dev/hd<id> <directory_to_mount_to>
[06:33] <_hello_> _hello_: sudo aptitude install minicom >> good idea ;)
[06:34] <psychocat> LjL: maybe it's this one, I don't remember -> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[06:35] <LjL> psychocat: quite possibly!
[06:36] <_hello_> Xenguy, im trying to get the modem installed to send faxes with it
[06:36] <_hello_> no modem appears in the device manager
[06:36] <Xenguy> _hello_: I don't know anything about fax
[06:37] <gfish> how can i get the networked printer to work
[06:37] <Xenguy> _hello_: minicom can be used to trouble-shoot modems tho
[06:37] <Xenguy> gfish: 2 Ubu boxen?
[06:37] <haffe_> Hello, can I make lspci display the amount of memory on my graphics card?
[06:37] <ClayG> anyone here use squid or stunnel?
[06:40] <server_newbie> How do I delete a dir and all it's files from the command line ?
[06:40] <LjL> server_newbie: rm -r -f dir
[06:40] <LjL> server_newbie: be careful ;)
[06:40] <Xenguy> server_newbie: careful: rm -rf dir
[06:40] <server_newbie> thanks
[06:40] <Talisker> how do I completely remove ubuntu without formatting my drive?
[06:40] <gfish> Xenguy> the printer is on the network though a win xp computer
[06:40] <_hello_> Xenguy, its ok, but how do you install a modem driver
[06:40] <Stormx2> what do i need to uncompress a .rar file?
[06:40] <greenpenguin13> and dont type rm -rf /usr/bin like i did
[06:40] <_hello_> is there a "synaptic" for that ?
[06:40] <shadikka> :) at greenpenguin
[06:40] <Xenguy> gfish: OK, dunno for sure then; samba maybe?
[06:40] <LjL> Stormx2: unrar-free or unrar-nonfree, depending on the archive
[06:41] <Stormx2> LjL: kay
[06:41] <Xenguy> _hello_: I'm not really sure
[06:41] <shadikka> I have a problem with my WLAN :/ Device Manager shows the card (apparently) right yet it won't connect it anyhow. Do I need a package I don't have or something?
[06:41] <server_newbie> Thanks Xenguy
[06:41] <Xenguy> server_newbie: yw
[06:41] <gfish> does anyone know how i can print to a networked printer
[06:42] <rebo> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=506933#post506933
[06:43] <rebo> please can someone help with that, thankyou
[06:43] <Cole> gfish: you have to use samba to map it..i dont' have any windows pc's on my network so i cant' try
[06:44] <msg43> woot!
[06:44] <msg43> I think I got nvidia to work succesfully
[06:45] <greenpenguin13> fyre: error while loading shared libraries: libcairo.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:45] <shadikka> I have another problem, btw..
[06:45] <shadikka> (I'm typing it, I know the rules and so on ;)
[06:45] <gnomefreak> rebo,  xp ubuntu and 64 what? and are all three 64bit? and can you paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst either in ubuntuforums or pastebin
[06:45] <Iam8up> rebo - go jump in a fire please
[06:45] <witless> my wife and i use separate X desktops running concurrently on an ubuntu workstation (i reach mine with ctrl-alt-F8 and she reaches hers with ctrl-alt-7).  when i plug in a USB digital audio player, it mounts it on her desktop instead of mine.  is there any way to get the machine to correctly recognize whose desktop session the device belongs to?
[06:46] <greenpenguin13> Fyre crashes with the error "fyre: error while loading shared libraries: libcairo.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[06:46] <msg43> Hell yeah ubuntu is working
[06:46] <msg43> I mean nvidia
[06:46] <msg43> is
[06:46] <shadikka> When I boot, after GRUB has finished loading ("Ok, uncompressing the kernel..."), I get a line with lots of numbers and a loong pause, after which I get /drivers/video/x errors "-1 File exists" and it boots normally o.O
[06:46] <shadikka> That kinda freaks me out...
[06:47] <msg43> oh no I didn't :(
[06:47] <Nei> hi how can I make the 'network' in nautilus show NFS shares?
[06:48] <gfxstyler> msg43: so it does not work?
[06:48] <Cole> gnomefreak: isn't there something about windows can only deal with 4 active partitions per disk?
[06:48] <gnomefreak> i dont know off head
[06:49] <Cole> rebo: do you know what partitions on yoru drive are primary partitions and what are in a extended thingy
[06:49] <rebo> gnomefreak: XP is 32 bit, ubuntu is 64 and x64 is the 64bit windows
[06:49] <rebo> umm no:(
[06:50] <rebo> unbuntu was installed last
[06:50] <msg43> gfxstyler, I dunno
[06:50] <gnomefreak> xp wont boot for that reason if i had to guess
[06:50] <msg43> it worked when I was in recovery mode but when I loged in as a regular user it didn't work to well
[06:50] <gnomefreak> rebo you have an amd 64?
[06:50] <rebo> doh
[06:50] <msg43> it loaded
[06:50] <rebo> yeah
[06:50] <rebo> x64 is working fine
[06:50] <msg43> but supertux and that stuff wouldn't work
[06:50] <rebo> so is ubuntu
[06:51] <rebo> just not XP
[06:51] <gfxstyler> msg43: whats the error?
[06:51] <psychocat> cole: I think it can only handle 4 primary partitions, any other partitions must be extended partitions
[06:51] <gnomefreak> but 32 bit windows isnt working cause its 32 bit running on 64bit processer
[06:51] <msg43> gfxstyler, segment default
[06:51] <rebo> ah that doesnt matter
[06:51] <HappyFool> amd64's have a 32-bit emulation mode
[06:51] <gnomefreak> ohhhh ok
[06:51] <rebo> XP runs fine on amd64 chips
[06:51] <gfxstyler> msg43: does every 3d app segfault?
[06:52] <msg43> gfxstyler, yeah
[06:52] <shadikka> Hmm. I'm trying to find a WLAN package with Synaptic and have already selected 60 game packages :S
[06:52] <msg43> gfxstyler, I have to watch something brb
[06:52] <gnomefreak> rebo,  xp doesnt ever run fine
[06:52] <rebo> heheh
[06:52] <rebo> It was all working before i installed ubuntu:D
[06:52] <psychocat> rebo: post your menu.lst in the pastebin
[06:52] <rebo> sure 1 mo
[06:52] <shadikka> Well, it does run better than 98 ;D
[06:53] <shadikka> Well, I have muuuch less problems with Ubuntu now *wirn* XP only for playing Ragnarok Online and some other assorted games now ^^
[06:53] <Cole> rebo: are you using grub as yoru boot loader? or ntldr? since i thought you said ntldr
[06:54] <psychocat> cole: he has grub call up ntldr to boot his window os's
[06:54] <psychocat> why i don't know
[06:54] <c0n> could someone kindly help me change my screen res so that it doesnt look like the usable area of my screen is being tiled
[06:55] <rebo> Cole grub is the bootloader, but it has ntldr as an option
[06:55] <rebo> from which i can then choose XP or x64
[06:55] <Cole> rebo: ok
[06:55] <psychocat> rebo: so you installed grub in the mbr?
[06:55] <zenlunatic> are there clearlooks-cairo packages? or is it in dapper?
[06:56] <rebo> yeah psychocat
[06:57] <rebo> guh sorry using a KVM to switch between machines 1 mo :D
[06:57] <psychocat> zenlunatic: check this out -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89056&highlight=clearlooks+cairo
[06:57] <mdjake> TerminX,
[06:57] <mdjake> sorry
[06:57] <mdjake> mistyping
[06:58] <psychocat> rebo: probably easiest thing to do is not involve the ntldr at all
[06:58] <rebo> http://pastebin.ca/29670
[06:58] <rebo> Yeah
[06:58] <shadikka> But can anyone help with that video driver error when booting?
[06:58] <rebo> ideally i dont want to use NTLDR
[06:58] <rebo> i like grub when it works
[06:58] <gnomefreak> zenlunatic,  theres really much of nothing in dapper since theyve only been working on it for 2 weeks or so
[06:58] <rebo> ideally i would like to boot into x64 or XP straight from grub
[06:59] <rebo> those are various perumations i tried
[06:59] <rebo> but none of them work
[06:59] <rebo> permutations*
[06:59] <Red-Sox> can you run gnome in windows
[06:59] <Red-Sox> ?
[06:59] <rebo> http://pastebin.ca/29670
[06:59] <mdjake> can anybody help me with dhcp server configuration? I have a mini-Ubuntu-server with 3 network cards: 1 (eth0) internet connection and 2 (eth1, ra0) for NAT - how can I tell the server to serve 192.168.1.x addresses on eth0 and 192.168.2.x on ra0?
[07:00] <rebo> the first one is the one that loads the NTLDR, and that works but XP dont work from that, only x64
[07:00] <shadikka> Red-Sox, probably with cygwin, AFAIK not else..
[07:00] <msg43> Hi
[07:00] <msg43> gfxstyler, ok now it doens't work again :(
[07:01] <msg43> though I get an error in the logs
[07:01] <smo> mdjake .. I'm pretty convinced you want to read 'man route' .. I'm not sure I can be much more help than that tho
[07:01] <rebo> any ideas psychocat ?
[07:01] <msg43> it says
[07:01] <_hello_> mustard5, is an Intel modem considered as a Winmodem ?
[07:01] <psychocat> rebo: still looking at it, one sec
[07:02] <rebo> ok thankyou very much
[07:02] <msg43> Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o": No Symbols found
[07:02] <msg43> so can anyone help me figure out what is wrong
[07:02] <BooZee> can sombody explain to me privatly what is IPv6 ?
[07:02] <Cole> rebo:  (hd0,4) shoudl be your xp partitions as it is /dev/sda5 6375 12748 51199123+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
[07:02] <Cole> rebo: (i think)
[07:02] <msg43> i manually installed the nvidia driver following a guide using the installer
[07:02] <rebo> ah maybe thats it
[07:03] <barry5> I think I have broken my keyboard shortcuts, when I press the: ctl + alt + F1 : combo nothing happens (if I do it in an gnome-terminal window) then "P" is echoed to the screen, F1-F4 gives me: PQRS, and F5-F12 give me: ;7~
[07:03] <rebo> ill try Cole
[07:03] <mdjake> smo, NAT is configured properly - both client machines can use the net. However the dhcp server gives the same address on ra0 as on eth1 (192.168.1.x) so ra0 doesn't work - this can be solved by route?
[07:03] <Xenguy> er, up
[07:03] <mustard5> _hello_, I couldnt say for sure, but I would suspect if its an internal pci modem in a dell computer then its a winmodem (they are cheap and I would think most Dell's have cheap hardware inside)
[07:03] <zenlunatic> psychocat: i need ppc package unfortunately
[07:03] <psychocat> rebo: it should be (hd1,4) since the SATA drive is hd1
[07:04] <msg43> so can anoyne help me???
[07:04] <msg43> I have no clue what is wrong
[07:04] <psychocat> zenulunatic: ah sorry
[07:04] <rebo> do i need the map swap commands in there too?
[07:04] <mustard5> _hello_, winmodem are cheaper because they take shortcuts with the hardware by using parts of the operating system (ie windows) to make them work
[07:04] <msg43> Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o":  No symbols found
[07:04] <psychocat> rebo: let me post back to your forum post and try that
[07:04] <Cole> physocat: why/how is the SATA drive hd1? is it always? or did i miss something?
[07:04] <msg43> that what gdm spit out at me when I have my driver in xorg as nvidia
[07:05] <mustard5> _hello_, if you keep reading the guides at that link and others you might find a program of some kind that can determine what your modem chipset is
[07:05] <Cole> physocat: nm i'm a morong
[07:06] <rebo> with maps, i get invalid device requested error 12
[07:06] <rebo> and (hd1,4)
[07:06] <msg43> oh please I've been working on this for ever
[07:06] <msg43> gfxstyler, you around?
[07:06] <gfxstyler> yes
[07:06] <gfxstyler> im watching you muahahaha :) lol
[07:06] <_hello_> mustard5, yes I downloaded the scanModem and ran it and it told me I have a Intel modem
[07:06] <rebo> with hd0,4 i get error 22 no such partition
[07:06] <rebo> =[
[07:06] <msg43> gfxstyler, can you help I'm so last
[07:07] <msg43> lost
[07:07] <_hello_> wait a minute...
[07:07] <msg43> it was working now it doesn't work
[07:07] <gfxstyler> i try it, whats your problem?
[07:07] <Nei> why can't I browse nfs in ubuntu?
[07:07] <mustard5> _hello_, personally I would be buying an external modem that connects via your serial port (RS232 port), and getting rid of that one.
[07:07] <Cole> rebo: yeah i was a moron your sata drive is hd1
[07:07] <gfxstyler> it worked, then you rebooted and it does not work anymore?
[07:07] <gnomefreak> hda1
[07:07] <msg43> when I put nvidia in the driver secton gdm fails to start and this is what is in the log
[07:07] <msg43> yeah
[07:07] <rebo> thats no problem Cole, im even thicker :D
[07:08] <msg43> Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o":  No symbols found
[07:08] <mustard5> _hello_, you may get that one working.  What do the guides say?
[07:08] <msg43> and that what is in the log
[07:08] <gnomefreak> msg43, did you try reconfiguring the X setup?
[07:08] <rebo> hmm maybe ill try getting rid of the maps
[07:08] <psychocat> rebo: i replied to your post.  try that and see how it goes
[07:08] <rebo> thank you psychocat
[07:08] <_hello_> mustard5, have you ever run scanModem ?
[07:08] <rebo> btw KVM's are cool :D
[07:08] <msg43> gnomefreak, yep
[07:08] <psychocat> rebo: that's because it should be (hd1,4)
[07:08] <msg43> I'll try again
[07:09] <mustard5> _hello_, about 2 years ago (my memory of it is lost)
[07:09] <msg43> but i'll doubt it will wokr
[07:09] <msg43> well I'm in x righ tnow uisng the nv driver
[07:09] <rebo> (hd1,4)
[07:09] <msg43> which is the sucky driver
[07:09] <rebo> yeah thats what i tried
[07:09] <rebo> i get invalid device error 12
[07:09] <psychocat> k
[07:09] <rebo> however it did have the map swap thing in before
[07:09] <gfxstyler> msg43: what happends if you do a "sudo modprobe nvidia" ?
[07:09] <gnomefreak> msg43,  stupid question but are you sure its right driver?
[07:10] <msg43> gfxstyler, thing maybe I need the nvidia driver loaded
[07:10] <msg43> let me try now
[07:10] <msg43> brb
[07:10] <psychocat> rebo: is the SATA drive booting first?
[07:10] <gfxstyler> msg43: okay
[07:10] <rebo> not 100% sure on that will check after i tried your method :D
[07:11] <EddieDaMan> hello
[07:11] <c0n> could someone help me figure out how to use a higher resolution (i know my laptop can use it, but as soon as i go higher than 1024x768, the screen tiles....
[07:11] <psychocat> rebo: if it is then try with (hd0,0) and (hd0,4) respectively
[07:11] <_hello_> mustard5, whould it be useful if I send you the ModemData.txt ?
[07:11] <mustard5> _hello_, use the pastebin to do so
[07:11] <EddieDaMan> can anyone please help get amarok to get working?
[07:12] <mustard5> ubotu: tell _hello_ about pastebin
[07:12] <EddieDaMan> wow, so ungrammatical
[07:12] <EddieDaMan> lol
[07:12] <msg43> gfxstyler, samehting
[07:12] <sazwerx> how to connect to Window$ computer using "Terminal Server Client"? i'm always get "Connection Refused"..
[07:12] <msg43> it seem slike it attempts to load
[07:12] <msg43> but it fails
[07:12] <msg43> like i see the nvidia screen for a few secs
[07:12] <barry5> I think I have broken my keyboard shortcuts, when I press the: ctl + alt + F1 : combo nothing happens (if I do it in an gnome-terminal window) then "P" is echoed to the screen, F1-F4 gives me: PQRS, and F5-F12 give me: ;7~
[07:12] <trappist> sazwerx: make sure the terminal server is running and that you're connecting to the right box
[07:12] <gfxstyler> msg43: what does "dmesg | grep nvidia" say ?
[07:13] <c0n> sazwerx, ive had the same problem
[07:13] <sazwerx> trappist, terminal server? how to check it?
[07:13] <trappist> sazwerx: what version of windows
[07:13] <msg43> gfxstyler, [4294701.120000]  nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
[07:13] <witless> i have a /dev/md0 raid device that's not getting mounted on boot.  maybe /etc/mdadm-raid starts after the mount attempt?  how do i get it to mount automatically?  the entry is in fstab, and i'm able to mount it once the machine has booted
[07:14] <sazwerx> trappist, XP with SP2, and i'm already enabled the "Remote Desktop" connection
[07:14] <trappist> sazwerx: that's the terminal server.  next step, make sure you're hitting the right machine.
[07:14] <psychocat> barry5: check System -> Preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[07:14] <msg43> gfxstyler, let me reboot out of recovery mode ok?
[07:14] <Xenguy> trappist: is it possible to get TS for W2K (it's not installed right now AFAICT)
[07:14] <ColdWind> Hi
[07:14] <barry5> psychocat, checked them, but cannot find the relevant binding
[07:14] <_hello_> mustard5, ok I sent it with name: _hello_
[07:14] <trappist> Xenguy: yes, but it's not free
[07:14] <_hello_> (lack of imagination)
[07:15] <mustard5> _hello_, show me the URL now
[07:15] <ColdWind> do someone know how to make the gnome panel's menu transparent?
[07:15] <_hello_> ok..
[07:15] <Xenguy> trappist: ahh
[07:15] <_hello_> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4797
[07:15] <sazwerx> trappist, i'm 100% sure hitting the right machine.. but i'm still get connection refused.. any more clues?
[07:15] <gnomefreak_away> i/msg nickserv identify spanky
[07:15] <spongeboblamepan> hello i heard that you can install x windows and xfce from base
[07:15] <mustard5> _hello_, thanks..
[07:15] <gnomefreak_away> oops
[07:15] <spongeboblamepan> is that true?
[07:15] <barry5> psychocat, would it be a good idea to delete the binding file (don't know where that is) and let the shortcut applet to recreate it (don't know if it will)?
[07:15] <c0n> ive got the same problem as sazwerx, and im right next to the computer i want to remote into
[07:15] <trappist> sazwerx: if you're hitting the right machine and getting connection refused it's a windows issue.  check firewall, things like that.
[07:15] <spongeboblamepan> does anyone know if this is ture?
[07:16] <ColdWind> spongeboblamepan yes, it's true, you have to type "server" when you boot the installation CD and do the installation from sratch
[07:16] <EddieDaMan> why does my amarok keep rebuffering?
[07:16] <Pegasos989> I'm having a slight problem. Every time I try to open synaptic package mager, it closes automatically immediately. :/
[07:16] <EddieDaMan> when i used the cool streams feauture?
[07:16] <sazwerx> trappist, i've turned off the firewall..
[07:16] <spongeboblamepan> ColdWind: how would i install x windows from base?
[07:16] <ColdWind> do you mean without installing gnome?
[07:16] <trappist> sazwerx: I'm trying to politely tell you that it's a windows issue and therefore won't be supported here
[07:17] <gnomefreak_away> !windows
[07:17] <ubotu> I guess windows is unnecessary, everything runs in Linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office or find an !alternative, or what you remove to make room for kubuntu
[07:17] <sazwerx> trappist, ok.. sorry, bro.. thanks
[07:17] <gnomefreak_away> sorry had to
[07:17] <psychocat> barry5: if you let the shortcut applet recreate it, it should backup the binding file and use the new one so give it a shot
[07:17] <gnomefreak_away> bbl
[07:17] <spongeboblamepan> ColdWind: yes
[07:17] <barry5> any idea where it is located psychocat ?
[07:17] <greenpenguin13> what folder do fonts go in please?
[07:17] <spongeboblamepan> ColdWind: i want to install Xwindows from base without gnome and use xfce in its place
[07:18] <psychocat> barry5: i'm not sure, sorry :(
[07:18] <ColdWind> spongeboblamepan: boot the Ubuntu cd, type server, and when it finish of installing the base files, type sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop (it's the alternative package for XFCE desktop insted of gnome)
[07:18] <spongeboblamepan> ColdWind: and thats it?
[07:18] <trappist> !tell spongeboblamepan about xubuntu
[07:18] <londonboi2k3> sazwerx, have you got a password on the windows box, if not you wont be able to connect to with with terminal services
[07:18] <londonboi2k3> sazwerx, I use terminal services and am connected to my windows box now with no problems
[07:18] <Marlun> Hello again, how big does the swap space need to be? I've got a pretty big HD so I don't need to the minimum requirement but the best possible :)
[07:18] <spongeboblamepan> ColdWind: dont i have to configure my xorg.conf or something like that?
[07:18] <ColdWind> well, if you don't have any problem configuring your network in the "server" installation...
[07:19] <sazwerx> londonboi2k3, yes, i have
[07:19] <ColdWind> there shouldn't be problems
[07:19] <gfxstyler> Marlun: how much ram do you have?
[07:19] <ColdWind> no
[07:19] <msg43> Hi
[07:19] <msg43> Ok
[07:19] <sazwerx> londonboi2k3, tell me the steps please..
[07:19] <gfxstyler> msg43: hi
[07:19] <spongeboblamepan> By my network you mean internet right?
[07:19] <trappist> Marlun: bigger is not always better with swap
[07:19] <Marlun> gfxstyler: 1024
[07:19] <ColdWind> your xorg.conf is configured automatically
[07:19] <msg43> I'm back in regulare mode
[07:19] <londonboi2k3> sazwerx, have you enabled terminal services?
[07:19] <ColdWind> yeah
[07:19] <msg43> gfxstyler I have no clue whats wrong
[07:19] <msg43> it I see the nvidia logo screen
[07:19] <gfxstyler> Marlun: 512 should be enough, the swap is used when your ram gets full
[07:19] <Marlun> trappist: thats why I'm asking :)
[07:19] <mustard5> _hello_, lots to read :)  still reading....
[07:20] <sazwerx> londonboi2k3, terminal services where? ubuntu?
[07:20] <ColdWind> all you need is the server base installation and the xubuntu-desktop packet
[07:20] <greenpenguin13> fonts folder anyone?
[07:20] <Marlun> gfxstyler: ok, thanks :)
[07:20] <ColdWind> hey, anyone know how to make gnome panel's menu transparent?
[07:20] <psychocat> barry5: i would assume is somewhere in your home directory
[07:20] <gfxstyler> ColdWind: rightclick on it, then properties
[07:20] <londonboi2k3> sazwerx, have pvt you if thats ok
[07:20] <trappist> Marlun: if you have 512mb ram I would do 1024mb of swap
[07:20] <rebo> psychocat thanks very much for your help but none of them are working :(
[07:20] <gfxstyler> ColdWind: choose solid color and move the slider
[07:20] <rebo> i think i might just re install everything
[07:20] <barry5> psychocat, me too, looking around in ~/.gnome2 atm
[07:20] <tcmjr> Where should I go to update my ubuntu 5.04 to 5.10 ?
[07:21] <Marlun> trappist: I have 1024 in ram and gfxstyler told me to have 512, not the other way around ;P
[07:21] <_hello_> mustard5, thanks
[07:21] <gfxstyler> tcmjr: change every hoary to breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:21] <trappist> gfxstyler: sorry didn't know you had a gig.  are you running a himem kernel?
[07:21] <somerville32> Whats better?
[07:21] <somerville32> gdm or kdm?
[07:21] <psychocat> rebo: did you try commenting out all you had and just having those plus the entries for ubuntu?
[07:21] <trappist> somerville32: matter of preference
[07:21] <gfxstyler> trappist: i dont have a gig :D Marlun has a gig
[07:21] <trappist> dang it
[07:22] <barry5> somerville32, flame war alert ? (gdm imo)
[07:22] <rebo> no would it of made a difference :o ?
[07:22] <trappist> Marlun: sorry didn't know you had a gig.  are you running a himem kernel?
[07:22] <Cryptid> somerville32, gdm
[07:22] <gfxstyler> trappist: high mem is for > 4gb thoguh
[07:22] <trappist> gfxstyler: no.
[07:22] <somerville32> Which one looks the best? :)
[07:22] <tcmjr> gfxstyler, thanks
[07:22] <psychocat> rebo: worth a shot.  just comment the windows stuff except the stuff you just added.
[07:22] <ColdWind> gfxstyler: I'm going to try it, thanks
[07:22] <rebo> The IDE is currently booting first
[07:22] <rebo> SATA 2nd
[07:22] <Marlun> trappist: lol, stop confusing people :P
[07:22] <psychocat> rebo: ok so it all should be (hd1,something)
[07:23] <Marlun> trappist: I don't even know what a himem kernel is :)
[07:23] <trappist> gfxstyler: linux will only use something like 800mb unless you use a himem kernel
[07:23] <ColdWind> gfxstyler, I don't mean the gnome panel (the bar) I mean the Gnome menu
[07:23] <psychocat> rebo: can you reply with your whole menu.lst in the forum?
[07:23] <gfxstyler> trappist: when you configure the kernel the highmem option lowest value is 4gb i think, or we dont talk about the same thing
[07:23] <trappist> Marlun: you aren't taking full advantage of your gig of ram unless you're using a kernel that recognizes it all
[07:23] <msg43> why doesn't ubuntu have xorgconf
[07:23] <rebo> sure psychocat
[07:23] <gfxstyler> ColdWind: sorry i misunderstood you
[07:24] <trappist> gfxstyler: there's 16gb, 4gb, and no.  if no, you only get about 800mb
[07:24] <Marlun> trappist: I've used only windows up till resently :)
[07:24] <Pegasos989> I'm having a slight problem. Every time I try to open synaptic package mager, it closes automatically immediately. :/
[07:24] <Nei> why can't I add nfs mounts with nautilus?
[07:24] <mustard5> _hello_, well I find it pretty confusing to read, but I am thinking its telling you that it is a 537 chipset
[07:24] <barry5> msg43, /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:24] <gfxstyler> trappist: thanks, didnt know that
[07:24] <msg43> barry5 yeah there is an tool that can configure xorg
[07:24] <msg43> that included with xorg
[07:24] <mustard5> _hello_, there may be drivers on the Intel site...
[07:24] <gfxstyler> trappist: damn, just compiled a "perfect" kernel a few days ago
[07:24] <tcmjr> gfxstyler, after I do that how to update ?
[07:24] <barry5> Pegasos989, open it up via teminal and see what error it outputs
[07:24] <trappist> gfxstyler: the 4gb option lets you use UP TO 4gb, the 16gb up to 16.
[07:24] <gfxstyler> tcmjr: type "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[07:25] <tcmjr> gfxstyler, tks
[07:25] <ghostdog> I need a hand setting up ltsp server
[07:25] <drcode> hi all
[07:25] <barry5> msg43, try: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:25] <drcode> how I can update evoltion ver
[07:25] <rebo> what i cant figure out is, if NTLDR is there and grub is there where are they residing ?
[07:25] <rebo> both in the MBR ?
[07:25] <drcode> I try apt-get install evo. but it say its the last
[07:25] <ghostdog> the client computer does see the pxe server but I get error 1
[07:25] <trappist> ghostdog: might be worth seeing if #ltsp is still active
[07:25] <ghostdog> file not found
[07:25] <drcode> and in the web site it is not
[07:25] <cafuego> rebo: No, there can be only one (like in highlander) in the MBR
[07:26] <ghostdog> trappist, thanks
[07:26] <cafuego> rebo: Which one shows first at bootup?
[07:26] <headdown> hello...I am not able to configure my thunderbird to send mails...its always asking me for the password and then doing nothing...
[07:26] <Pegasos989> barry5, (synaptic:10222): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, (synaptic:10222): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[07:26] <rebo> grub, but then i can select ntldr from grub
[07:26] <rebo> does that mean ones on the other harddisk?
[07:26] <cafuego> rebo: Ok, that means GRUB is in the MBR and NTLDR is in the partition boot record.
[07:26] <rebo> ah
[07:26] <Pegasos989> it also says Vylvirhe but I have no idea how to say that in english
[07:26] <rebo> partition boot record
[07:26] <rebo> ok
[07:27] <rebo> i think this install is well borked up
[07:27] <rebo> i might just start again:D
[07:27] <cafuego> rebo: No, that's absolutely fine.
[07:27] <mustard5> _hello_, I'm just going over the 537EP drivers at the Intel website...trying to work out which ones might be best to download and try
[07:27] <_hello_> mustard5, I was confused too but I saw the line..
[07:27] <rebo> in theory yes cafuego, its just borked;D
[07:27] <cafuego> rebo: Do you want them to be the other way around?
[07:27] <_hello_> rom archives, the soft modem codec type of 1028:1000 is: INTEL537EP
[07:28] <psychocat> cafuego: he should be able to boot all of the os's without having to call up the NTLDR right?
[07:28] <rebo> Im happy with grub, just XP wont boot from it
[07:28] <rebo> yeah i dont even want to use that NTLDR thing
[07:28] <shadikka> oh, is that why my XP works no more -.- It worked previously!
[07:28] <cafuego> psychocat: No, the way to boot XP from grub is *via* that bootstrap-to-ntldr process.
[07:28] <_hello_> with google I found that link
[07:28] <_hello_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=713012d4af41105377ad466b8b1279f7&t=36762
[07:28] <rebo> oh
[07:28] <cafuego> rebo: Nono, that's the way it works :-)
[07:29] <rebo> hmm
[07:29] <cafuego> rebo: Now what you can do is snapshot the MBR (grub) in a 512 byte files and add *that* back into the ntldr menu, so you can flip from grub to ntldr to grub to ntldr to grub ...
[07:30] <rebo> heh thats a bit sneaky
[07:30] <cafuego> Not instantly useful, but there ya go.
[07:30] <shadikka> o.O
[07:30] <spongeboblamepan> can someone help me with installing xfce from base
[07:30] <mustard5> _hello_, looking at link now.. (keep putting my nick in front of your message in irc, plz.  Or I lose you in the chat :) )
[07:30] <psychocat> cafuego: thanks
[07:30] <spongeboblamepan> how woudl i go about doing this?
[07:30] <rebo> anyway
[07:30] <navarone> woot@getting nickserv to work
[07:30] <rebo> even if we do it this ntldr way that still doesnt fix the XP issue :/
[07:30] <spongeboblamepan> Coldwind showed me how but he didnt tell me how to configure my network in server
[07:30] <cafuego> rebo: XP itself won't boot?
[07:30] <mustard5> _hello_, hmmm looks like a good guide...just reading it further...
[07:30] <rebo> x64 boots from NTLDR but XP doesnt
[07:31] <rebo> both were working before i installed ubunutu
[07:31] <msg431> I"ve given up on ubuntu :(
[07:31] <cafuego> Did you move its partition at all?
[07:31] <navarone> rebo> is someone trying to use ntldr as bootmanager?
[07:31] <psychocat> rebo: paste the link to the pastebin entry so that cafuego can take a look
[07:31] <rebo> i had 38 gigs of free space after i installed x64 then XP
[07:31] <rebo> i installed ubuntu into that
[07:31] <rebo> http://pastebin.ca/29670
[07:32] <rebo> everything apart from the first one is my ham fisted attempt to get it to work
[07:32] <cafuego> ... or even speakling to the right channel...
[07:32] <navarone> or answers...lol
[07:32] <rebo> the first one loads NTLDR, but xp dont work from that x64 does though
[07:32] <witless> is there a way to save all the contents of a folder in a web browser to local disk?
[07:32] <rebo> heh no problem cafuego
[07:32] <psychocat> cafuego: he has all three os's in one sata drive that's booting second to an ide drive
[07:32] <witless> (through the gnome desktop_
[07:32] <rebo> lol
[07:32] <rebo> i know its well messed up
[07:33] <BooZee> Help on IPv6 ??
[07:33] <rebo> i think all the boot stuff needs to be on the sata
[07:33] <rebo> as the IDE was only ment to be some extra storage not contain the boot stuff
[07:33] <rebo> :D its a mess
[07:33] <cafuego> rebo: The sata drive is C: as far as Windiows is concerned? Was XP on the ide to begin with?
[07:33] <londonboi2k3> Anyone round here using Dapper?
[07:33] <drcode> btw:where konquest store his bookmark?
[07:33] <rebo> no the IDE appeard as C
[07:34] <rebo> the sata was E + F lol
[07:34] <cafuego> Still does?
[07:34] <cafuego> Ok, so they were swapped...
[07:34] <rebo> and nothing was on the IDE at all
[07:34] <navarone> rebo> have you or anyone helping looked at this site http://enterprise.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/02/16/191205   <--  I don't know if that is of interest
[07:34] <cafuego> So previously windows XP ran off E: and was happy?
[07:34] <spongeboblamepan> can someone help me
[07:35] <navarone> oops...wait that gives error
[07:35] <rebo> or F, cant remember 100%
[07:35] <rebo> but yeah
[07:35] <mustard5> _hello_, it looks like you are going to need some help with compiling the drivers..I can think of one step thats not included in the how to that would make life easier
[07:35] <cafuego> cool.
[07:35] <rebo> XP and x64 were happy as dandy
[07:35] <rebo> but all this points to the boot stuff being on the IDE doesnt it?
[07:35] <rebo> this is really bad i think
[07:35] <londonboi2k3> spongeboblamepan, dont ask for help just ask your qestion
[07:35] <cafuego> And Linux is on IDE now? (C:?)
[07:35] <rebo> no everything is on the sata
[07:36] <rebo> the ide just contains some backup files from my other machien
[07:36] <cafuego> Did you plonk Linux after Windows?
[07:36] <rebo> yeppers
[07:36] <spongeboblamepan> I want to install ubuntu base system without gnome
[07:36] <cafuego> Cool. So which aprtition contains what now?
[07:36] <rebo> x64 then XP then linux
[07:36] <spongeboblamepan> i want to use xfce instead
[07:36] <cafuego> sad1, sda2, sad3?
[07:36] <londonboi2k3> spongeboblamepan, at boot time use server
[07:36] <spongeboblamepan> i know how to do it simply stype sudo apt-get xubuntudesktop
[07:37] <spongeboblamepan> but then i heard you have to setup network
[07:37] <cafuego> spongeboblamepan: Install the 'server' install from the CD. Then add 'xubuntu-desktop'
[07:37] <spongeboblamepan> how do i setup my network
[07:37] <spongeboblamepan> ?
[07:37] <rebo> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=506933#post506933
[07:37] <cafuego> spongeboblamepan: The server install should have asked for the network stuff.
[07:37] <rebo> i got the fdsik stuff there
[07:37] <spongeboblamepan> cafuego: so that means i dont have to do any network setting up>?
[07:38] <rebo> maybe if i remove the IDE drive, system restore fix the MBR on the sata
[07:38] <cafuego> spongeboblamepan: As far as I'm aware, indeed.
[07:38] <rebo> with XP disk
[07:38] <rebo> then install grub with ubuntu disk
[07:38] <rebo> would that work ?
[07:38] <headdown> got this error msg on my mailserver: Nov 20 19:23:38 sbmp sendmail[21575] : jAKINZEX021575: chello062178150071.7.14.vie.surfer.at [62.178.150.71]  did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to stdin
[07:38] <cafuego> rebo: sda4 is yer extended partition?
[07:38] <spongeboblamepan> cafuego: alright imma try to install server now
[07:38] <spongeboblamepan> thanx
[07:38] <headdown> does this help?
[07:39] <HellDragon> http://el.c.la
[07:39] <headdown> i just cant send mails
[07:39] <rebo> hmmm i always get extended and primary partitions confused:(
[07:39] <rebo> i dont know sorry cafuego
[07:39] <cafuego> rebo: Um, logical I mean.
[07:39] <_hello_> mustard5, which step ??
[07:39] <cafuego> rebo: sda4 is the one that is the container for sda5 through 7? Or is there no sda4...
[07:39] <rebo> oh
[07:39] <headdown> no one an idea why SMTP via thunderbird doesnt work?
[07:39] <rebo> yes it might just be
[07:40] <cafuego> ok.
[07:40] <Pegasos989> What would be a good program for burning a cd from .ISO file?
[07:40] <gfxstyler> Pegasos989: k3b for example
[07:40] <gfxstyler> Pegasos989: or gnomebaker
[07:40] <cafuego> Have you tried the grub stuff without mapping? Just install an MBR (but nothing else) on IDE?
[07:41] <Pegasos989> thanks, gfxstyler
[07:41] <mustard5> _hello_, well when compiling I think you you can change the command 'make install' to checkinstall and it will create a deb package to install it, so that you can easily uninstall
[07:41] <rebo> cafuego thank you very much for your help but i think im going to re install everything
[07:41] <cafuego> Pegasos989: Right-click the ISO in Gnome, then select 'Burn to disc...'
[07:41] <rebo> as it shouldnt be on the IDE at all
[07:41] <rebo> you've helped alot but i dont want to waste your time anymore
[07:41] <rebo> ill remove the IDE
[07:41] <cafuego> rebo: Nono, ia32 is a bit crappy that way, it needs the MBR to be on the first disk.
[07:41] <_hello_> mustard5, maybe your right, the terminal tells me "Current running kernel is: 2.6.12-9-386
[07:41] <_hello_>      /lib/modules...   autoconf.h does not exist       please install kernel source"
[07:41] <rebo> then once everything is working
[07:41] <Pegasos989> cafuego, there is a feature like that? 1337
[07:41] <rebo> ill put the IDE back in
[07:41] <witless> wonder if i should have encoded all my music in ogg q=10 ...
[07:42] <mustard5> _hello_, thats one problem I see with it...secondly I don't like the way he gets a root terminal in the how to
[07:42] <rebo> that will ensure theMBR is all on the first disk yeah ?>
[07:42] <cafuego> rebo: *if* you remove that ide drive put it bac k later, windows is going to have a hissy-fit coz the drive letters will change.
[07:42] <mustard5> _hello_, and also he has included some other steps..so its an incomplete tutorial atm
[07:42] <rebo> why though cafuego ?
[07:42] <gfxstyler> why the hell im getting called by +3311 every 5 minutes? lol
[07:42] <rebo> wont it treat it as just "another drive"
[07:42] <cafuego> rebo: Becaude windows is a badly designed POS ;-)
[07:42] <rebo> haha
[07:42] <mustard5> _hello_, any chance you can join #kubuntu-offtopic ?  This channel is moving too fast for me to keep up
[07:43] <rebo> you might be right there
[07:43] <cafuego> rebo: *unless* you make sure that when the IDE drive is plugged on, the *bios* sees is as second drive.
[07:43] <rebo> yeah ill make sure of that
[07:43] <spongeboblamepan> cafuego: i forgot to ask
[07:43] <cafuego> rebo: *if* it all used to work fine, all you need to do is have grub in the MBR on ide, with the right file (no mapping/hiding) poiting at disk 2.
[07:44] <spongeboblamepan> cafuego: once i sudo apt-get xubuntudesktop what do i do after that?
[07:44] <spongeboblamepan> cafuego: reboot?
[07:44] <ClayG> can't you just logout?
[07:44] <rebo> yeah but i at some point intend to remove the IDE and give it to someone else
[07:44] <cafuego> spongeboblamepan: 'xubuntu-desktop'. When that's done, you can type 'startx'.
[07:44] <rebo> so i cant be having the system spread over 2 drives
[07:44] <rebo> or at least those 2 drives
[07:44] <spongeboblamepan> cafuego: ok so... so everytime i boot up from now on i have to type startx?
[07:44] <cafuego> rebo: Well, when you do that E: will become C: and it'll be all bad.
[07:45] <rebo> yeah thats why im gonna reinstall
[07:45] <cafuego> spongeboblamepan: Unless you also install 'gdm', in which case it will give you  anice login screen.
[07:45] <rebo> after i take the drive out
[07:45] <cafuego> rebo: *nod* Just make sure the way the bios lists 'em will allow for that without *another* reinstall later.
[07:45] <spongeboblamepan> cafuego: how do i get gdm?
[07:46] <rebo> ok will do, thank you
[07:46] <Marlun> I've just installed a server-installation of ubuntu, can I somehow get a description of what all the colors mean when I list files?
[07:46] <cafuego> spongeboblamepan: sudo apt-get install gdm (and you can get nice xfce themes for gdm too)
[07:46] <linuxboy> is gplflash in ubuntu?
[07:46] <spongeboblamepan> ok cool
[07:46] <cafuego> linuxboy: yes
[07:46] <spongeboblamepan> cafuego: so once i get gdm i dont have to boot into command line adn type startx?
[07:46] <linuxboy> cafuego: where?
[07:47] <cafuego> spongeboblamepan: Nope, though you may need to run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start' (just once)
[07:47] <cafuego> !info gplflash
[07:47] <Determinist> anyone here that has managed to make a notifications desklet run successfully with gdesklets? i manage to run the desklet, but it just wont display the notifications
[07:47] <cafuego> linuxboy: Ok, fine, so it's not :-P
[07:47] <linuxboy> cafuego: :P
[07:47] <cafuego> linuxboy: hold on
[07:47] <linuxboy> cafuego: I also thought it was. But I can't find it
[07:47] <cafuego> linuxboy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-7f415bb22e9ee34e1e0fbc9d2b56f17ec18475f4
[07:48] <spongeboblamepan> cafuego: so... when i run that what will happen?
[07:48] <cafuego> Except $MORON on the wiki seems to have trashed my checkinstall gplflash solution.
[07:48] <cafuego> spongeboblamepan: It will bring you rhe gdm login screen
[07:48] <linuxboy> cafuego: aaaah. so it isn't ;)
[07:48] <jcole> where's a good place to go on making my own .debs from source and/or binay packages?
[07:49] <spongeboblamepan> cafuego: so when i run that once i wont have to boot into command line constantly?
[07:49] <cafuego> linuxboy: So, with that wiki stuff, rather that running 'sudo make install', run 'sudo checkinstall' (that will generate a gplflash.deb)
[07:49] <navarone> linuxboy...i have thread you may be interested in..mentions gplflash   http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21427.html
[07:49] <cafuego> linuxboy: You will need to apt-get install checkinstall
[07:49] <ClayG> anyone here running squid or stunnel?
[07:49] <cafuego> spongeboblamepan: Indeed. After the nextr eboot, it will come up with the gdm login windows by default.
[07:49] <spongeboblamepan> ok cool
[07:50] <spongeboblamepan> imma try it now
[07:50] <beef_sprocket> is courier-webadmin not accessible through webmin?
[07:50] <spongeboblamepan> cafuego: any last words before i try it?
[07:51] <spongeboblamepan> ok im off to do it now
[07:51] <cafuego> beef_sprocket: Nope.
[07:51] <cafuego> beef_sprocket: That has its own interface through sqwebmail afaik.
[07:52] <beef_sprocket> how to access it then? specific url on localhost?
[07:52] <beef_sprocket> ah
[07:52] <freeemanen> How do see that changes that happens in dapper drake?
[07:52] <Excalibor> greetings
[07:53] <Excalibor> please, some help: I'm trying to setup a new printer (I didn't have one before), but I cannot find which cups program to use?
[07:53] <beef_sprocket> cafuego: how to access sqwebmail then?
[07:53] <cafuego> beef_sprocket: install it, configure it, log into it
[07:53] <_null> Anyone using NetworkManager in here?
[07:53] <beef_sprocket> I'm doing this through an ssh connection to another box..
[07:54] <_jason> Excalibor, you best bet is http://www.linuxprinting.org/
[07:55] <tcmjr> is it safe to upgrade 5.04 to 5.10 or should I do a fresh install of 5.10 ?
[07:56] <somerville32> It is save to upgrade
[07:56] <somerville32> I did it and had excellent results
[07:56] <Excalibor> _jason, thanks, I'll check there
[07:57] <tcmjr> somerville32, synaptic or apt-get ?
[07:57] <Marlun> When doing a server install, do I need to install things like soundcard/video drivers myself later when I want to install gnome?
[07:57] <somerville32> You must use apt-get
[07:57] <somerville32> Well, you might be able to use synaptic
[07:57] <somerville32> But the gnome update manager said it couldn't do it and I had to use apt-get
[07:57] <somerville32> so I just used apt-get
[07:58] <tcmjr> ok
[07:59] <_jason> ubotu, tell tcmjr about breezy
[08:01] <sudhir> hi I tried #alien -i file.rpm
[08:01] <sudhir> but cant see its deb file :(
[08:02] <sudhir> did I missed any setting
[08:02] <B_166-ER-X> haha
[08:02] <B_166-ER-X> xkill just freezed..
[08:02] <tcmjr> tks
[08:02] <B_166-ER-X> how funny
[08:03] <sudhir> any yahoo chantut client for ubu
[08:03] <B_166-ER-X> how do i kill a  a frozen xkill window ?
[08:03] <tehidiot> when making an ISO out of files w/ mkisofs is there a command to compress it? because 7.8gb is too big
[08:04] <beef_sprocket> does anyone have cedega setup on amd64 chroot that can give me a hand?
[08:05] <dell500> does anyone her eknow how to completely restore the ipod?
[08:06] <willert> Hi, I am using Dapper (I know, thats my fault *g*) and since a few days my emacs21 fails to start in X-mode. The error message is <Undefined color: "#000000 "> I've since tried to downgrade every dependency of emacs, move all config-files away, grepped in all elisp files after suspicious commands, but to no avail. Can anyone help me to restore the one treu editor?
[08:06] <B_166-ER-X> my call would say ; stick with breezy... but then, you know it ..
[08:07] <pixelmonkey> I just upgraded from hoary to breezy, and Nautilus has no icons for folders.  is this a common problem?
[08:07] <Nezzari> Would someone please help me enable 3D acceleration? I can't seem to get it working. I have an Nvidia 6600GT card on Ubuntu 5.10 (64 bit)
[08:07] <willert> pixelmonkey: Try to reset your desktop theme
[08:07] <Avikar> how do i set up a duale boot with a xp system... installing the linux on a third drive patition?
[08:07] <B_166-ER-X> Nezzari : jsut go get the new drivers..
[08:08] <B_166-ER-X> my nvidia driver update was like ,32 megs...worth it ..
[08:08] <Nezzari> B_166-ER-X: I got the new drivers, 3d acceleration sin't enabled
[08:08] <Nezzari> isn't*
[08:08] <B_166-ER-X> hm
[08:08] <Nezzari> B_166-ER-X: I followed the ubuntu tutorial (the apt-get install nvidia-gtx thing)
[08:08] <B_166-ER-X> ok then, i dont know... it worked for me  whitout problem, so :| cant help ya
[08:08] <B_166-ER-X> yeap, followed this too
[08:09] <ghb> Does anyone know how to install Java Development Kit 1.5?
[08:09] <Nezzari> I tried to compile the ones from Nvidia, but I got an error
[08:09] <JRlinux> How do I include myself as user of /dev/cdrom ?
[08:09] <blanky> guys does ubuntu have those scripts hwere it burns your whole system into an ISO so you can create a live cd from it?
[08:09] <B_166-ER-X> there is 2 way to install the nvidia drivers : follow the tutorial, or the nvidia site
[08:09] <pixelmonkey> willert, thanks, that fixed it
[08:09] <Nezzari> B_166-ER-X: I tried both ways
[08:09] <B_166-ER-X> urgh :\
[08:09] <willert> pixelmonkey: np
[08:10] <majyk> is there a package for lighttpd? I can't seem to find one.
[08:11] <Nezzari> I got a kernel-source / kernel-header error when I tried to compile my drivers
[08:11] <Nezzari> but I'm pretty sure I have them
[08:11] <pixelmonkey> wow, did GTK+ get snappier in breezy?  Stuff feels a lot faster.
[08:12] <stdoubt> yoohoo - is there a "DVD playback guru" in the house?
[08:14] <Iam8up> dvd r0x0r
[08:15] <khermans_> what files are the Application menu entries stored in?
[08:15] <stdoubt> Iam8up: yeah I like dvds too - wish i could play one
[08:15] <khermans_> you used to be able to say something like "applications:///"
[08:15] <khermans_> in nautilus
[08:15] <Iam8up> media player classic and videolan should be fine
[08:16] <Iam8up> videolan is my favorite
[08:16] <khermans_> vlc is great
[08:16] <selinium> stdoubt: what is the p;roblem?
[08:16] <Iam8up> winamp or videolan - everything else can die
[08:16] <khermans_> Anyone know where the .desktop entries are for things in the Applications -> Programming menu?
[08:16] <Avikar> can some one help me with ainstall problem?
[08:16] <stdoubt> khermans_: try applications:/// in konqueror
[08:16] <khermans_> stdoubt, i dont use knoqueror
[08:16] <stdoubt> oops nm ;] 
[08:16] <khermans_> lol
[08:17] <stdoubt> selinium: if you feel willing to help could you check my post here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=507037#post507037
[08:17] <selinium> stdoubt, looking...
[08:17] <stdoubt> warning: it's a mystery
[08:17] <sudhir> any yahoo chat client for ubu
[08:18] <blanky> ...gaim...
[08:18] <blanky> actually
[08:18] <blanky> I think they give yahoo for linux for download
[08:18] <blanky> if I'm not mistaken, so is AIM
[08:18] <sudhir> not yahoo messenger
[08:18] <Sedge> what was the link for restricted formats?
[08:18] <stdoubt> selinium: thx for looking, it almost seems like a SONY DRM infection.......
[08:18] <blanky> I guess they used to then
[08:18] <Elektrochelovek> !dsl
[08:18] <ubotu> somebody said dsl was see pppoe, or damn small linux ( http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ )
[08:18] <Sedge> !restricted
[08:18] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats. Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:18] <majyk> is there a planned backport of lighttpd?
[08:19] <sudhir> any yahoo chat client for ubu , not messenger
[08:19] <Elektrochelovek> !pppoe
[08:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[08:19] <mla> Hello
[08:19] <stdoubt> heyhey
[08:19] <khermans_> Nobody knows where the Applications menu files are?!?!?
[08:19] <selinium> stdoubt, Wow, I have no idea! You culd try in #linux if you cant get any help here  :)
[08:20] <sudhir> hi I tried #alien -i file.rpm
[08:20] <sudhir> but cant see its deb file :(
[08:20] <stdoubt> selinium: k -thx for looking
[08:20] <mla> Where I can find xorg config for an alps touchpad ?
[08:20] <selinium> khermans_, In what sense what do you want to do>
[08:20] <selinium> ?
[08:20] <khermans_> mla, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:20] <khermans_> selinium, I want to manually edit the entry rather than use the Menu Editor
[08:21] <selinium> khermans_, ome mo...
[08:21] <khermans_> ?
[08:21] <mla> khermans_, yes I know :D
[08:21] <selinium> khermans_, one moment
[08:21] <khermans_> thx
[08:21] <Sedge> !nvidia
[08:21] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:22] <mla> but where I can find the config to configure alps touchpad in my xorg.conf
[08:22] <mla> all alps touchpad have the same config ?
[08:23] <selinium> khermans_, THey are kept in /usr/share/applications/    open one up, and you can workout the rest... :)
[08:23] <khermans_> selinium, i just noticed it there
[08:23] <khermans_> thnks dude
[08:23] <selinium> khermans_, No problems
[08:23] <selinium> :)
[08:23] <pixelmonkey> I have another issue--I just upgraded to breezy and now CTRL+ALT+F{1,2,...6} don't work for switching between virtual terminals from Xorg
[08:23] <nalar> hi there i would like to know how firestarter can work well with samba since I've been trying to apply the policy with the inbound connection but none seems to be working..(I've been googling so far no solution)..any help would be great
[08:23] <khermans_> mla, what do you need to configure?
[08:23] <khermans_> is your touchpad not working?
[08:23] <mla> the vertical scroll
[08:24] <khermans_> mla, that is a common problem -- of which there is no simple soluton
[08:24] <mla> yes, I understand
[08:24] <khermans_> mla, many people complain that there is no auto-setup of touchpad "scroll areas"
[08:25] <khermans_> mla, anyways -- you need to define an area for your touchpad that is sensitive to scrolling
[08:25] <mla> but I'ld like to know where I can find the value ?
[08:25] <mla> or where I can get this value
[08:26] <khermans_> mla, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowto?highlight=%28touchpad%29
[08:26] <mla> thanks
[08:26] <khermans_> mla, i think they are VerticalScrollDelta and HorizontalScrollDelta
[08:26] <mla> yes
[08:28] <AlexGanache> Can someone assist me?
[08:28] <AlexGanache> I am sorry, that was stupid to ask.
[08:28] <AlexGanache> ill get on with my question.
[08:28] <selinium> AlexGanache, we wil try!
[08:28] <dell500> lol
[08:28] <AlexGanache> When I try and boot to the CD on my mac, it gives me a open firmware error of some sort.
[08:29] <stdoubt> AlexGanache: you sure the CD is for PPC and not x86?
[08:30] <AlexGanache> yep.  Well unless when they shipped it they were stupid.. .lol
[08:30] <bulio|Lap> how can I run a live cd without changing PC boot order?
[08:30] <n0dl> cafuego: eep! help! for somereason when i try to run sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop it says there is no package like that
[08:30] <stdoubt> AlexGanache 'stupid' does happen alot...
[08:30] <AlexGanache> lol
[08:30] <n0dl> does anyone know the package for openbox?
[08:31] <AlexGanache> I will go and restart, then I will come back with the error ok?
[08:31] <jareth_> n0dl: try openbox
[08:31] <n0dl> cafuego: are you there?
[08:31] <cycom> hey, I'm trying to mount a FAT32 partition so that my normal user can read and write to it.  I've got it set up to mount automatically through my /etc/fstab, but when I try to write to that folder, I get permission denied.  I then have to unmount it with sudo and remount it with my regular user for it to work.  How do I fix this
[08:31] <khermans_> mla, after talking with you -- i just realized mine works by default without these options!  Only the vertical scrolling works, but  dont even care about horizontal scrolling -- thanks for reminding me to check -- wow Ubuntu surprised me again!!!
[08:32] <n0dl> can anyone tell me how to install xfce from the base system?
[08:32] <n0dl> or better yet how to install openbox from base system?
[08:32] <Marlun> how come "help > less" is not working? Should I not get the output of help int o less?
[08:32] <khermans_> n0dl, you know there is a distribution of Ubuntu called Xubuntu with XFCE4 by default?
[08:33] <jareth_> n0dl: do apt-get install openbox
[08:33] <n0dl> jareth_: ok ill try
[08:33] <n0dl> brb
[08:33] <jareth_> n0dl: oki :)
[08:33] <johndarkhorse> Marlun: use a pipe "help|less
[08:33] <stdoubt> cycom: can you post the device's line from your fstab?
[08:34] <jareth_> n0dl: for themes openbox-themes
[08:34] <cycom> stdoubt: if you like.
[08:34] <Marlun> johndarkhorse: ah! thanks :)
[08:34] <cycom> stdoubt: /dev/sda5       /media/share    vfat    defaults,users  0       0
[08:36] <cycom> stdoubt: I think I got it
[08:36] <cycom> throw it a uid/gid and it should work
[08:36] <stdoubt> cycom: try adding     "exec,umask=000"   to the options section of that line and remove the word 'defaults'
[08:36] <stdoubt> ahh k
[08:36] <cycom> stdoubt: I'll try both
[08:37] <stdoubt> cycom: back up the file 1st ;] 
[08:40] <dino-> how do i install nvidia drivers the -proper- way? ive seen 4 different guides, some is easy to understand but still dont work for me... can anyone guide me through this in private?
[08:40] <somerville32> !nvidia
[08:40] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:40] <somerville32> lol
[08:40] <somerville32> Seen those yet?
[08:41] <Avikar> is some one here able to help with a install issue? . . . . please
[08:41] <somerville32> State your issue
[08:41] <stdoubt> dino: the thing about Linux is there's not neccesarily a "proper" way......it lets you do one thing many ways - whatever works for the distro
[08:41] <dino-> somerville32: actually yeah...
[08:42] <somerville32> It should work dino
[08:42] <somerville32> What issues do you run into?
[08:42] <stdoubt> dino, start with whatever looks simplest and go from there
[08:42] <dino-> im a noobie... just reinstalled my ubuntu, it crashed when i was trying to install nvidia drivers on my own... just need some one to guide me through this so i dont fuck up again... :p
[08:42] <somerville32> dino: I've never installed nvidia drivers before
[08:43] <stdoubt> dino: if by "crash" you mean X didn't start when you rebooted? that don't mean it's fucked ;] 
[08:43] <Avikar> i installed ubuntu or a 3rd partition of a sata drive.. attempting to set up a dual boot with my crrent Win XP.. it has installed as far as i can tell completely...now how ever when it reboots it Freezes or tells me portions are loading to fast and will be haulted for five minutes
[08:43] <stdoubt> dino: just probably means you need to change something in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:43] <somerville32> Avikar: Wow... Say that again
[08:45] <dino-> seriously, if this is so simple, please just msg me ;/ been stuck with this for a long time, getting pretty fucked in my head by all the errors and thinking.. i got a clean ubuntu installed, and its safest if i dont do anything on my own, whatever the guide says :p
[08:46] <stdoubt> dino: you know how to change sources.list?
[08:46] <Avikar> umm... yeah.. its realy odd. i asume i have not installed properly or missed a setting  required for it to work.. the problem is, i have no idea what it is
[08:46] <dino-> stdoubt: no, i dont know linux at all.... :)
[08:47] <stdoubt> dino: oh my --well, you need to learn to use "apt-get" or at least "adept"
[08:47] <stdoubt> dino: FWIW, my nvidia 3d started working after installing 2 things:     nvidia-glx    and        nvidia-kernel-common
[08:48] <sambagirl> i just do this apt-get install ardour
[08:48] <sambagirl> and it starts and then says cannot find it
[08:48] <sambagirl> i dont understand?
[08:49] <dino-> staaka: i got pci-e, any differnt from agp?
[08:49] <dino-> stdoubt i mean
[08:49] <stdoubt> dino: then you need to edit   /etc/X11/xorg.conf   so it refers to "nvidia" instead of "nv"
[08:50] <stdoubt> dino: then restart X (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace)
[08:51] <AlexGanache> So I found out the error message of the open firmware
[08:53] <kassah__> I just installed php and mysql in that order...
[08:53] <kassah__> however php diddn't have the mysql config option enabled
[08:53] <kassah__> is there a way to fix that?
[08:54] <Phuzion> php.ini
[08:54] <Phuzion> in /etc/php4
[08:54] <kassah__> that'll change the ./confugure optinos?
[08:54] <Phuzion> Yes
[08:54] <kassah__> neat
[08:54] <Phuzion> You'll have to edit some parts of the file.
[08:54] <Phuzion> Lemme see where you'll have to look.
[08:54] <sambagirl> is adour included in ubuntu?
[08:56] <bimberi> kassah__: There's some info here which might help - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:56] <Avikar> is there a online instruction manual for setting up and  instaling ubuntu
[08:57] <benplaut> !wiki
[08:57] <Phuzion> I was just going to suggest the wiki
[08:57] <benplaut> hold the chease, i'll brb
[08:57] <kassah__> nice!
[08:58] <AlexGanache> Am I the only one that is getting this weird memory error.
[08:58] <Phuzion> What one?
[08:58] <kassah__> so... does anyone have a IBM T40 Thinkpad by chance that knows how to get the modem working?
[08:59] <Elsan> Has anyone hero successfully installed VMWare on 5.10?
[08:59] <kassah__> that would make my prep complete for going into the middle of nowhere
[08:59] <bimberi> Avikar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[08:59] <Phuzion> AlexGanache, what is the error message you're getting?
[08:59] <vbgunz> hello all, doess anyone know how to GPG sign all files in a directory with one swoop? Seahorse and Nautilus crash when I do it through the GUI and trying to figure it out on the command line is frustrating... I cannot find the wildcard option ... Anyone know how to sign all files in a given directory?
[09:00] <Phuzion> vbgunz, try -r
[09:00] <Phuzion> recursive
[09:00] <vbgunz> Phuzion: yeah, good idea, thanks, will try that now!
[09:00] <Phuzion> Not sure that it will work, but it works with RM amd MV, so it might work on other programs too.
[09:01] <n0dl> how do install openbox from the base system
[09:01] <vbgunz> Phuzion: sorry, -are is reserved with GPG for "recipients" :(
[09:01] <AlexGanache> On my mac, it wont load because I get a memory error n open firmware
[09:01] <n0dl> how do i install openbox from the base system?
[09:02] <Phuzion> n0dl, don't repeat your question, wait for someone to answer it.
[09:02] <vbgunz> what the heck... I cannot do a dashletterR... it comes out dashARE... why?
[09:02] <MikeStyle> hey guys how do i install w32 codecs, its not showing up in synaptic..?
[09:02] <jareth_> n0dl: do apt-get install openbox
[09:02] <Phuzion> Did you do "-R" or "-r"?
[09:02] <jareth_> n0dl: what happens?
[09:02] <beef_sprocket> MikeStyle: do you have universe and multiverse repositories?
[09:02] <kassah__> biberi: when following hte Wiki... I get
[09:02] <n0dl> jareth: i did that and i get some error telling me the package doesnt work
[09:02] <vbgunz> Phuzion: I did -are
[09:02] <kassah__> E: Couldn't find package php4-mysql
[09:02] <vbgunz> :(
[09:02] <MikeStyle> beef_sprocket, i have no idea, how would i add them?
[09:02] <Phuzion> Try -r
[09:02] <jareth_> n0dl: what error?
[09:03] <Phuzion> or -R
[09:03] <Phuzion> n0dl:  sudo apt-get install openbox
[09:03] <beef_sprocket> you can either change them through synaptic or gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:03] <smo> vbgunz: most likely spelling correction in your client.  I believe xchat corrects 'r' and 'u' by default?
[09:03] <n0dl> Phuzion: i do and it tells me that the package doesnt exsist!
[09:03] <vbgunz> Phuzion: thanks but no go, both are reserved for recipient :(
[09:03] <Phuzion> Alright, I just did it, and it works.
[09:03] <vbgunz> smo... thats an educated guess and better than mine :)
[09:04] <jareth_> n0dl: sudo apt-cache openbox
[09:04] <jareth_> n0dl: sudo apt-cache search openbox
[09:04] <n0dl> ok
[09:04] <jareth_> n0dl: sorry
[09:04] <n0dl> ok
[09:04] <n0dl> let me try
[09:04] <n0dl> brb
[09:04] <vbgunz> -r
[09:04] <bimberi> kassah__: it should be in there - in the universe repository
[09:04] <beef_sprocket> MikeStyle: see how it works?
[09:04] <vbgunz> smo, thanks! hahaha
[09:05] <kassah__> bimberi, ahh... I don't have universe
[09:05] <selinium> kassah__, What is the problem/
[09:05] <selinium> ?
[09:05] <vbgunz> Phuzion: you just did it? You signed a directory filled with files recursively using GPG?
[09:05] <MikeStyle> beef_sprocket...not really
[09:05] <kassah__> selinium, there is no mysql.so on my machine
[09:05] <jareth_> n0dl: and?
[09:05] <n0dl> jareth_: it didnt work
[09:05] <n0dl> nothing came up
[09:05] <selinium> kassah, have you got any strange repos on your machine?
[09:06] <selinium> kassah_, have you got any strange repos on your machine?
[09:06] <Phuzion> vbgunz:  --multifile
[09:06] <jareth_> n0ndl: activate universe and multiverse in tour repos
[09:06] <kassah__> default without universe
[09:06] <kassah__> just added universe now
[09:06] <n0dl> how do i activate that
[09:06] <selinium> ok
[09:06] <n0dl> im in the base so i can exactly open synaptic
[09:06] <foampeace> hi
[09:06] <foampeace> how do i mount an iso?
[09:06] <Phuzion> To emulate a CD/DVD drive?
[09:07] <kassah__> yep... the module is in the universe repository
[09:07] <jareth_> n0ndl: System : Administration: Synaptic
[09:07] <cy_> hello
[09:07] <vbgunz> Phuzion: the return was: --sign does not yet work with --multifile :( I guess it isn't possible to recursively sign all files in a dir huh?
[09:07] <cy_> does ubuntu come with a default root password ? cant be ? .. you must set it at the installation ?
[09:07] <selinium> n0dl, sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup && sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 -O /etc/apt/sorces.list     in a term
[09:07] <Phuzion> foampeace:  mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso
[09:08] <n0dl> sleinium: i type taht whole thing out?
[09:08] <Phuzion> cy_  everything root on Ubuntu is done through Sudo
[09:08] <n0dl> in one command line?
[09:08] <selinium> n0dl, You using breezy ?
[09:08] <Avikar> i am useing ver 5.04 what partition format should i use to install on?
[09:08] <n0dl> yes
[09:08] <cy_> Phuzion; so every user has root rights ? .....
[09:08] <jareth_> n0ndl: cpoy it in terminal
[09:08] <selinium> Then yes
[09:08] <Phuzion> Avikar, it's up to you, but I'd suggest EXT2
[09:08] <foampeace> Phuzion: thanks
[09:08] <cy_> Phuzion; a buddy of mine does not know the root password.... dont you set that when you install ubuntu ?
[09:08] <Phuzion> No
[09:08] <Phuzion> You don't.
[09:08] <Avikar> ok i got that part rite then
[09:08] <mjr> Avikar, ext3 if you don't have a spesific reason not to
[09:08] <smo> cy_: only those listed in /etc/sudoers (by default, the only the user created during install)
[09:09] <Phuzion> You set the main user's part
[09:09] <Phuzion> password*
[09:09] <n0dl> selenium can you type that command again
[09:09] <n0dl> im using irssi
[09:09] <n0dl> and i cant scroll up
[09:09] <Phuzion> cy_: No, not every user has root rights.
[09:09] <cy_> smo; without password prompting within sudo ?
[09:09] <selinium> n0dl,  >     sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup && sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 -O /etc/apt/sorces.list   <  in a term
[09:09] <jareth_> n0dl: shift page up
[09:09] <selinium> n0dl, the bit inbetween  >  <
[09:10] <smo> cy_: they're prompted for their _own_ password (not a root password), but it's not every user .. just those listed there
[09:10] <n0dl> sleinium: ok imma try it now
[09:10] <Phuzion> It is possible to make root an actual user that you can log in with, but it isn't recommended.
[09:10] <selinium> n0dl, :)
[09:11] <selinium> damn...
[09:11] <selinium> typo in last sources.list
[09:12] <Phuzion> Fix it :-)
[09:12] <selinium> i cnat n0dl has left..
[09:12] <Phuzion> Oh.
[09:12] <tehidiot> I have a 7.8gb iso file that I want to burn to a 4.7gb dvd, is it possible?
[09:12] <selinium> will wiat and fix.. :)
[09:12] <tehidiot> the files that are in the iso are ripped from a dvd to begin with
[09:12] <selinium> tehidiot, nope
[09:13] <Phuzion> tehidiot:  Not without defying the laws of mathematics.
[09:13] <tehidiot> selinium why not?
[09:13] <Greensky> I'm trying to run amarok using alsa so I can duplex sounds, but sound skips when I do that, does anyone have any idea how I might be able to fix that?
[09:13] <n0dl> ok i did the command now what?
[09:13] <tehidiot> Everytime I rip a DVD it comes out to be 7.8gb, but in windows its only 4gbs
[09:13] <selinium> tehidiot, bacause the DVD manufacurers have access to larger DVD formats than us mere moprtals
[09:13] <smo> tehidiot: the hole needs to be atleast as big as the peg, else you're just gonna make a lot of noise. (note that not all DVD are 4.7Gb .. dual layer will give you 8.something however)
[09:13] <selinium> s/moprtals/mortals
[09:13] <Phuzion> selinium:  not true
[09:13] <n0dl> selinium: now what?
[09:14] <Phuzion> You can buy a dual-layer burner
[09:14] <tehidiot> smo, its not a duallayer dvd though
[09:14] <tehidiot> its a regular dvd
[09:14] <tehidiot> and i have a dual layer burner.
[09:14] <selinium> n0dl
[09:14] <n0dl> selinium: yeah?
[09:14] <tehidiot> Its a regular DVD when I rip in linux its 7.8gb, in windows its 4gb
[09:14] <Phuzion> Sure you're using the same ripping method?
[09:14] <selinium> n0dl, Right first the command you used had a typo at the end... Can we pm?
[09:14] <tehidiot> no I am not sure.
[09:14] <rockz> my amarok dont open... see the error when i run amarok in terminal: http://ubuntu.linuxval.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1804
[09:15] <tehidiot> In windows I'm using DVDShrink, in linux im using vobcopy
[09:15] <n0dl> seliniumL oh crap
[09:15] <n0dl> selinium: go ahead and pm
[09:15] <selinium> n0dl, no problem at all!
[09:15] <stpere> DVDShrink : that name imply some shrinking, no?
[09:15] <smo> tehidiot.  shrink and copy are verbs.  Take a guess at why one gives a larger result than the other?
[09:15] <tehidiot> I know that.
[09:16] <tehidiot> can I shrink in linux though.
[09:16] <Phuzion> tehidiot, I'm assuming that your Windows program is compressing it somehow.
[09:16] <tehidiot> i'd assume that also.
[09:16] <tehidiot> now what should I do -_-
[09:16] <stpere> tehidiot, it's probably removing the sound tracks it doesn't (other langages)
[09:16] <stpere> +need
[09:17] <smo> transcode and mencoder should both be capable.  the commands needed to do so are akin to black magic however.  Google is always a good start - find someone else that's already done the hard work
[09:17] <Phuzion> stpere:  not to mention subtitles, extra angles, and extra features.
[09:17] <tehidiot> Well
[09:17] <tehidiot> no way to identify them
[09:18] <Phuzion> tehidiot, when you burn a DVD with DVDShrink, does it go straight to the movie, or do you have a menu?
[09:18] <tehidiot> How about making an ISO is there anyway to shrink it
[09:18] <tehidiot> because I have the files on my comp, I need to mkisofs
[09:18] <tehidiot> and I wonder if I can shrink the ISO to 4.7
[09:18] <tehidiot> Phuzion, I have everything - its the same copy of the DVD
[09:18] <tehidiot> if I use DVDShrink
[09:18] <Phuzion> Have you tried checking other languages and such?
[09:19] <tehidiot> Yeah
[09:19] <Phuzion> Hmmm
[09:19] <Phuzion> Then it sounds like some type of compression, or a different method of ripping
[09:19] <tehidiot> I would use DVDShrink in Linux but they don't make wine for the amd64 binary
[09:19] <tehidiot> Well is there anyway to compress the files in LInux?
[09:19] <tehidiot> i have the files on a drive.
[09:19] <smo> Phuzion: Generally just transcoding to a lower bitrate
[09:20] <Avikar> could the fact i am running a 64 bit amd system cause a fault or error while loading ubuntu ver 5.04?
[09:21] <Phuzion> Doubt it.
[09:21] <kemik> !printing
[09:21] <ubotu> printing is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[09:21] <kemik> !cups
[09:21] <ubotu> No idea, kemik
[09:21] <jefletcher> tehidiot: isnt cedega 64bit?
[09:21] <tehidiot> no
[09:21] <jefletcher> =[
[09:22] <Red-Sox> open office eats up my cpu and takes for ever to load, is this normal?
[09:22] <purplefeltangel> i just installed kde-desktop...how do i get rid of some of the KDE programs that i don't want? it keeps saying "other applications depend on this one" or osmething....
[09:22] <Phuzion> Red-Sox, do you have a respectable processor, and a good amount of RAM?
[09:22] <Red-Sox> Phazeman, pentium 4....256
[09:22] <Phuzion> Hmm
[09:23] <Red-Sox> Phazeman, im waiting about 20 seconds for it to load
[09:23] <Phuzion> Are you running a million programs while opening open-office?
[09:23] <n0dl> selenium?
[09:23] <n0dl> *selinium?
[09:23] <sunka> hi, i just tried to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy and when my computer rebooted, the Xserver failed to load and i'm stuck in console mode...any help? please?
[09:24] <Pablo> startx
[09:24] <Pablo> ?
[09:24] <yatesy> find out why it failed and edit xorg.conf ?
[09:24] <foampeace> whats the recommended ubuntu firewall
[09:24] <ficusplanet> Hey everyone.  What package contains dhclient?
[09:24] <yatesy> foampeace: iptables
[09:24] <Phuzion> sunka, try X {enter}
[09:24] <Phuzion> foampeace:  Your router.
[09:25] <sunka> it's mainly telling me it's a font issue (can't find them) i apt-get'd to remove x-widow-system and ubuntu-desktop then reinstalled...
[09:25] <mikestyle> hey uhm i edited my xorg.config file to enable transparency/shadows and i restarted kde and now i have this msg coming up...again:Composite extension not found
[09:25] <mikestyle> You must use XOrg  6.8 for translucency and shadows to work.
[09:25] <mikestyle> Additionally, you need to add a new section to your X config file:
[09:25] <mikestyle> Section "Extensions"
[09:25] <mikestyle> Option "Composite" "Enable"
[09:25] <mikestyle> EndSection
[09:25] <Phuzion> ficusplanet:  dhcdbd looks like it has it.
[09:25] <sunka> i also get errros on startup about shpchp module not loading
[09:25] <yatesy> mikestyle: don't paste stuff
[09:25] <topyli> Red-Sox: 20 seconds is about what i get on my duron 900 with 256 RAM. yes, it sucks
[09:25] <tritium> sunka: which video card do you have?
[09:25] <mikestyle> sorry but do u noe wuts wrong?
[09:25] <smo> odd, I find it in dhcp3-client  (dpkg -S /sbin/dhclient)
[09:26] <tritium> smo: it's in either
[09:26] <sunka> it's a voodoo3, i believe, and all the 3dfx drivers seem to be fine in the log.  it looks like all the fatal errors are coming from fonts
[09:26] <ficusplanet> smo, You're right.  Phuzion, dhcdbd isn't even in main, so it can't contain dhclient.
[09:26] <mikestyle> ....
[09:26] <Phuzion> ficusplanet:  sorry.
[09:27] <tritium> sunka: you're looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[09:27] <topyli> foampeace: easiest may be if you install and run firestarter. why do you need a firewall?
[09:27] <foampeace> topyli: dont know if i need one yet
[09:27] <ficusplanet> Phuzion, No problem.  I was confused by it, too.  Thanks.
[09:28] <bolsh> hi
[09:28] <sunka> let me open that log, but i'm talking about when I run startx or gdm it pops up some errors...."could not open default font 'fixed'"
[09:28] <topyli> foampeace: by default, an ubuntu installation doesn't listen to any ports, and no service is open to the evil internet
[09:28] <bolsh> Stuck on a couple of small issues with Ubuntu PPC
[09:28] <tritium> sunka: that's not a critical error, thogh
[09:28] <tritium> though
[09:28] <mikestyle> can anyone help?
[09:28] <gfish> how do i print on a networked printer
[09:28] <bolsh> How can I get a pop=up menu with a one=button mouse?
[09:28] <topyli> foampeace: if you build a more complicated server setup, then you might waht to think about firewalls
[09:28] <bolsh> Opt=click doesn't work
[09:29] <bolsh> oh, and the keymap's not perfect :)
[09:29] <tritium> mikestyle: what you pasted looks like pretty easy to follow instructions
[09:29] <tritium> (and please don't paste)
[09:29] <purplefeltangel> bolsh: does holding down the mousebutton work?
[09:29] <bolsh> purplefeltangel, No
[09:29] <mikestyle> my xorg.conf is edited to contain that AND my xorg is 6.8.2
[09:29] <tritium> bolsh: are you on ppc?
[09:29] <bolsh> tritium, yup
[09:30] <tritium> bolsh: I believe F12-click should do it
[09:30] <bolsh> tritium, F12 on its own
[09:30] <bolsh> Harly obvious, though :)
[09:30] <mikestyle> tritium, my xorg.conf is edited to contain that AND my xorg is 6.8.2
[09:30] <tritium> bolsh: something like that ;)
[09:30] <purplefeltangel> i just installed kde-desktop...how do i get rid of some of the KDE programs that i don't want? it keeps saying "other applications depend on this one" or osmething....
[09:30] <somerville32> !gcc
[09:30] <ubotu> gcc is probably the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.
[09:30] <somerville32> !compile
[09:30] <ubotu> I heard compile is Go and read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall. tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand.  Also, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ConfigureMakeMakeInstall.  Ask me about <compiling>
[09:31] <tritium> mikestyle: beyond that, can't tell you much
[09:31] <somerville32> !compiler
[09:31] <ubotu> somerville32: I give up, what is it?
[09:31] <bolsh> Is there a PPC FAQ that I can consult to avoid annoying ye?
[09:31] <smo> purplefeltangel: kde-desktop is a metapackage .. it depends on a whole bunch of pkgs so that you can install kde-desktop and pull them all in as dependencies.  if you remove a package, and it wants to remove kde-desktop also, that's not a problem (it'll remove kde-desktop, but not all the deps it installed).  if it wants to remove other things, then you have to stop and think
[09:31] <bolsh> (things like: how can I get at my hfs partitions)
[09:31] <purplefeltangel> smo: uhhhhh.....you lost me at "metapackage"
[09:32] <topyli> hehe
[09:32] <purplefeltangel> smo, PM?
[09:32] <ClayG> what is a good c compiler to use?
[09:32] <tritium> bolsh: you can search the wiki, including the UserDocumentation page
[09:32] <ClayG> I am trying to compile something and i get:
[09:32] <ClayG> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[09:32] <ClayG> See `config.log' for more details.
[09:32] <vbgunz> how do I turn a text file with the .sh extension into an executable?
[09:32] <smo> purplefeltangel: a metapackage installs nothing particularly useful .. it simply depends on things that are useful .. it's a convenience thing
[09:32] <n0dl> how do i startx from base?
[09:32] <tritium> ClayG: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:32] <slide> How would i install quake3?
[09:33] <topyli> purplefeltangel: let' try it this way: uninstalling kde-desktop is ok because it contains no software at all. that's why it's called a metapackage, it contains only dependencies to other packages that kde users might like
[09:33] <tritium> vbgunz: chmod +x file.sh
[09:33] <Red-Sox> o
[09:33] <purplefeltangel> smo, okay, if i'm in "add applications," and i want to uninstall, say, Konqueror, it tells me "cannot uninstall because other applications depend on this one"... if i uninstall that, is it going to screw something up, and if not, how do i go about uninstalling that?
[09:33] <n0dl> i installed the base system and just finished installing openbox
[09:33] <n0dl> how would i start the openbox gui?
[09:33] <smo> purplefeltangel, in that case, they probably really do need konqueror .. just about any KDE app that wants to render html will use it
[09:34] <ClayG> tritium thanks, ALOT
[09:34] <ficusplanet> Hey everyone.  So, gthumb has the --import-photos to start up with the import dialog automatically.  Does f-spot have a similar option?
[09:34] <tritium> n0dl: no display manager installed?
[09:34] <pixelmonkey> I just upgraded from hoary to breezy and am working out some kinks.  Does anyone know why VT switching (CTRL+ALT+F*) doesn't work?
[09:34] <tritium> ClayG: :)
[09:34] <purplefeltangel> smo, i dont actually want to uninstall konqueror; it was just the only KDE application ic ould think of
[09:34] <D1> does anyone use envolution?
[09:34] <Xcerca_> n0dl what is openbox for ?
[09:34] <topyli> purplefeltangel: konqueror is a pretty central piece of kde, so it might just lead you to uninstalling most of kde
[09:34] <ClayG> gettingthis
[09:34] <n0dl> tritium: Cant you use openbox alone?
[09:34] <tritium> pixelmonkey: it works.  Something must be wrong on your machine
[09:34] <purplefeltangel> smo: what about something like the KDE bluetooth thing?
[09:34] <n0dl> tritium: as a display manager?
[09:34] <ClayG> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[09:34] <tritium> n0dl: I would suspect that you can
[09:35] <sunka> well, i'm going to try reinstalling hoary, cause the only issues the log shows me only the font errors
[09:35] <n0dl> tritium: how do i start X then?
[09:35] <n0dl> tritium: in the base system
[09:35] <tritium> ClayG: you need xlibs-dev
[09:35] <witless> what scripts control the detection and mounting of usb storage on the gnome desktop?
[09:35] <tritium> n0dl: most people use a display manager.  You can't startx?
[09:35] <n0dl> no
[09:35] <topyli> purplefeltangel: not much should depend on that, so you can easily remove it if you don't need it. anyway, apt always warns you when something is about to be removed, so you'll have no unpleasasnt surprises
[09:36] <n0dl> tritium: no i cat start x
[09:36] <Pegasos989> How can I set a screensaver that shows images from a certain folder as slideshow?
[09:36] <n0dl> tritium: should i just get xfce then try and start x?
[09:36] <bolsh> not found
[09:36] <dino-> what do i need to play BATTLEFIELD 2, Far Cry and other 3d games on ubuntu? :)
[09:36] <purplefeltangel> oh, sorry topyli, i thought i was still talking to smo. neway, but, will i have to go to package manager to do that? :/
[09:36] <tritium> n0dl: what errors do you get when trying "startx"?
[09:36] <topyli> purplefeltangel: you can use apt on a terminal too
[09:37] <holy_cow> gah!
[09:37] <holy_cow> the goddamned gnome panels STILL shuffle icons around
[09:37] <holy_cow> *grrrr*
[09:37] <topyli> purplefeltangel: or wajig like i do :)
[09:37] <purplefeltangel> topyli, i have no idea what that is. :D
[09:37] <tritium> holy_cow: please calm down
[09:38] <n0dl> tritium:it says the command does not exsist
[09:38] <topyli> purplefeltangel: apt? or wajig? everybody must learn apt. wajig is just an addon
[09:38] <bolsh> anyway, night all
[09:38] <n0dl> tritium: what exactly is the command to start X?
[09:38] <ClayG> anyone get k9copy installed?
[09:38] <Pegasos989> startx :D
[09:38] <ClayG> on ubuntu?
[09:38] <Xcerca_> "startx"
[09:38] <ClayG> getting stuck in the "make" part
[09:38] <tritium> ClayG: did you install xlibs-dev?
[09:39] <n0dl> Xcerca_: i tried taht
[09:39] <ClayG> noirequus, doing that now
[09:39] <ClayG> er4z0r, sorry i mena no im doing that now
[09:39] <purplefeltangel> topyli, i dont know how to use apt D:
[09:39] <n0dl> tritium: do you know the command?
[09:39] <tritium> n0dl: it's startx
[09:39] <ClayG> just installed it but make is still not producing any results
[09:40] <tritium> ClayG: what is it doing?
[09:40] <topyli> purplefeltangel: you need a good web link. hold on :)
[09:40] <ClayG> wait
[09:40] <n0dl> tritium: hmm... why doesnt it work... are there certain packages i must ahve to start x?
[09:40] <tritium> n0dl: sounds like you are missing the package that contains it
[09:40] <ClayG> hmm i closed the terminal then reopened it and did ./configure again
[09:40] <n0dl> tritium: hold on brb i have to eat lunch
[09:40] <ClayG> alot more output
[09:40] <ClayG> this may work
[09:40] <tritium> n0dl: yes, there are.  I don't know what you installed
[09:40] <ClayG> clay@oldman:~/Desktop/k9copy-1.0.0$ make
[09:40] <ClayG> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.clay@oldman:~/Desktop/k9copy-1.0.0$
[09:40] <n0dl> tritium: what packages do i need?
[09:41] <Pegasos989> Is there a tool in ubunto for turning all images in a folder to a screensaver, or do I need some third party software? :/
[09:41] <pixelmonkey> tritium, sorry, I know it works, because chvt works, but the actual hotkeys don't work
[09:41] <topyli> purplefeltangel: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html . don't get confused, it's very exhaustive and tells you _everything_. you just need the basics
[09:41] <tritium> n0dl: I'm not on a linux box right now, so I can't double-check for you.
[09:41] <n0dl> dang
[09:41] <tritium> pixelmonkey: what are you referring to?
[09:41] <purplefeltangel> topyli: it looks big and imposing. O.O;;
[09:42] <pixelmonkey> tritium, VT switching with CTRL+ALT+F* not working
[09:42] <ficusplanet> Pegasos989, Select GLSlideshow as your screensaver and choose the folder you want to use in the "Advanced" tab.
[09:42] <tritium> n0dl: I take it you don't want gnome installed on your machine?  installing ubuntu-desktop would work.  if you want xfce, you can install xubuntu-desktop
[09:42] <Pegasos989> okay, thanks, ficusplanet
[09:42] <tritium> pixelmonkey: that's bizarre
[09:42] <ficusplanet> Pegasos989, No problem.
[09:42] <ClayG> does putting ./ infront of a file name just mean "execute this"?
[09:42] <ClayG> like a temp a+x change?
[09:43] <pixelmonkey> tritium, maybe I'll head to #xorg, it might be better answered ther
[09:43] <tritium> ClayG: are you in the directory containing a Makefile??
[09:43] <jack-> dont confuse him..
[09:43] <tritium> pixelmonkey: I've never heard of that before
[09:43] <jack-> ClayG, its just because the current dir isnt in the default path
[09:44] <badders> ClayG: ./ just means current directory, your current directory isnt in PATH
[09:44] <jack-> so you need to specify the location
[09:44] <jack-> ..d'oh
[09:44] <topyli> purplefeltangel: note that the graphical package manager in ubuntu is basically the same thing. sometimes it's just quicker and easier to talk to unix-like systems on the command line
[09:44] <jack-> guess i shouldnt answer random questions here, way too much activity :p
[09:44] <ClayG> ahh so ./ ignores PATH and uses what is in your cwd?
[09:44] <ClayG> er pwd?
[09:44] <ClayG> lol
[09:45] <jack-> . IS the current dir
[09:45] <jack-> ./lalala = $currentdir/lalala
[09:45] <tritium> ClayG: but back to your original problem, is there a makefile in that directory?
[09:45] <ClayG> yes
[09:46] <ClayG> makefile.in/cvs/am
[09:46] <ClayG> three
[09:46] <ClayG> dont know which is considered "a makefile"
[09:46] <jack-> thats not a makefile
[09:46] <tehidiot> Anyone here use a 32 bit chroot?
[09:46] <jack-> those are autoconf prototypes
[09:46] <tritium> ClayG: no, you need to run ./configure first
[09:46] <jack-> you'll want to run automake
[09:46] <ClayG> i did
[09:46] <ClayG> got alot of output , one error
[09:46] <tritium> which was?
[09:47] <ClayG> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers  and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[09:47] <Red-Sox> how do you unzip files?
[09:47] <ClayG> lemme install that and see if it works
[09:47] <tritium> you need another dev library, ClayG
[09:48] <tritium> ClayG: I need to get going...
[09:48] <ClayG> qt3-dev-tools?
[09:48] <ClayG> well thanks for the help tritium take care
[09:48] <slide> Is there a package for quake3? or do i just download the bin and run that?
[09:48] <ClayG> Enjoy what's left of the weekend
[09:48] <tritium> You too, ClayG...
[09:51] <tehidiot> Anyone here use a 32 bit chroot?
[09:53] <ColD_7> i am having problem with the flash sound
[09:54] <tehidiot> Anyone here use an AMD64 with a 32 bit chroot
[09:54] <ColD_7> i can configure it to have sound but it always become no sound after somewhile
[09:56] <Slackwise> Is there any way I can get the ubuntu gnome theme as a proper theme package? :P
[09:56] <fetman> how do I make amarok play flac?
[09:59] <Red-Sox> when you unzip something, where does it go?
[09:59] <somerville32> Your cef
[09:59] <somerville32> *cwf
[10:00] <Loevborg> this "unregged" stuff ain't working right
[10:00] <Red-Sox> somerville32, cef?
[10:00] <Red-Sox> somerville32, cwf* lol
[10:00] <ltl> Red-Sox - into your current [pwd]  directory.
[10:01] <Red-Sox> ltl: still above my head
[10:01] <Loevborg> I have my nickserv password typed into x-chat, still it kicks me to #ubuntu-unregged
[10:01] <ompaul> Loevborg, server lag?
[10:01] <fetman> Red-Sox: Current working directory
[10:01] <Red-Sox> where is it?
[10:01] <Loevborg> ompaul, I guess
[10:01] <fetman> ....
[10:01] <Red-Sox> home folder?
[10:01] <dino-> am i at ubuntu unregged now? :p
[10:01] <ompaul> Loevborg, I have mine in there and in server and today it kicked me back
[10:01] <ompaul> dino-, no
[10:01] <dino-> good
[10:01] <navarone> me too Loev
[10:01] <Red-Sox> okay, maybe I did something wrong, how do  you unzip a file?
[10:02] <ltl> Red-Sox - unzip file
[10:02] <somerville32> unzip <file>
[10:02] <navarone> i do it cautiosly...but that just me...lol
[10:02] <ltl> Red-Sox - tar -zxvf file.tar.gz
[10:03] <benplaut> is there any way to make a non-maximised panel *NOT* snap to corner? there's about a 20 pixel barrier before each corner that it will snap, and no way to change it
[10:03] <fetman> how do I make amarok play flac?
[10:03] <Loevborg> fetman, the gstreamer backend probably can play it
[10:04] <Loevborg> fetman, it seems reasonable to me that it can, provided you install the plugin
[10:05] <fetman> Loevborg: plugin to gstreamer for flac, or plugin for amarok?
[10:05] <dino-> what prog do i need to play battlefield2?
[10:05] <Agrajag> Windows
[10:05] <sambagirl> http://rafb.net/paste/results/X2pVwa51.html
[10:05] <somerville32> wine ?
[10:05] <Loevborg> fetman, for gstreamer
[10:05] <sambagirl> i need help with this please
[10:06] <somerville32> sambagirl: State your issue
[10:06] <dino-> not wine, i've heard about something faster and smoother
[10:06] <fetman> Loevborg: hmm, it just stops playing when I select the gstreamer engine..
[10:06] <Loevborg> fetman, "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-flac amarok-gstreamer" should fix it
[10:06] <fetman> Loevborg: ok!
[10:07] <NCLife> if i have kubuntu and want to install ubuntu-desktop, does it includes all the main progamms as if it is a complete install? with gaim, etc..
[10:07] <LjL> NCLife: yes
[10:07] <NCLife> and will i be able to switcht from kubuntu to ubuntu at start up? :o
[10:07] <LjL> NCLife: not at startup, but at the X login screen
[10:08] <somerville32> NClife, no at login
[10:08] <pao> hi all :-)
[10:08] <LjL> NCLife: and there's nothing really to "switch", as you'll have programs from both environments listed in your menu, and you'll be able to load Gnome and KDE programs from either
[10:08] <LjL> NCLife: you'll just decide whether to load Gnome or KDE
[10:09] <NCLife> oh, sounds good :)
[10:09] <NCLife> oh, thanks.. and to install the ubuntu-desktop what must i do? sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and nothing else? :o
[10:09] <pao> does anyone experienced a bug that just seems to run the desktopo SLOWLY eating 100% cpu?
[10:09] <LjL> sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop, i would suggest
[10:09] <sambagirl> ahh us mirror is broken or ran out of disk space
[10:09] <Stormx2> what is GDM?
[10:09] <LjL> NCLife: since, in case you ever want to remove it, you'll be able to, without hunting down every single package
[10:09] <pao> it is trigger sometime when I scroll gtk apps... such as openoffice...
[10:09] <somerville32> The gnome display manager
[10:10] <pao> it's really strange...
[10:10] <NCLife> okay, and after doing this sudo command i will have it automaticly all set up?
[10:10] <pao> I thought it was due to Xorg...
[10:10] <NCLife> the ubuntu-desktop
[10:10] <LjL> NCLife: yes, actually, it will ask one or two questions to you
[10:10] <pao> but I switched to NoAccell with no appreciable results :-(
[10:10] <LjL> NCLife: for instance, whether to load GDM or KDM as your login manager
[10:11] <sunsun> /window 1
[10:11] <NCLife> okay, sounds easy :D
[10:11] <LjL> NCLife: it is
[10:11] <NCLife> i have to open the universe repository first, right?
[10:12] <Stormx2> OK, How do I install a metacity theme?
[10:12] <NCLife> or multiverse..
[10:12] <LjL> NCLife: the only really "difficult" thing with having both installed is that you won't clearly distinguish which apps are Gnome and which apps are KDE from the menu
[10:12] <Archite> Is anyone able to spell check in OpenOffice using AMD64?
[10:12] <LjL> NCLife: no, you don't, as ubuntu-desktop only requires packages from main
[10:12] <LjL> NCLife: even though enabling universe is probably a good idea anyway
[10:13] <Archite> spell checking from the command line works fine, but OO does nothing.
[10:13] <NCLife> okayz, i tried to enable it yesterday, but i got confused because the instructions to enable are for synaptic which i dont have since im using kubuntu right now
[10:13] <LjL> NCLife: edit /etc/apt/sources.list directly
[10:14] <LjL> !tell NCLife about sources
[10:14] <LjL> you could use source-o-matic
[10:14] <NCLife> oh, so i only have to put this code into the box?
[10:15] <ompaul> Archite, sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-help-en << might help you
[10:15] <gnomefreak> kubuntu still has synaptic
[10:15] <Archite> ompaul: I know how to use OO
[10:15] <LjL> NCLife: i'm not sure what you mean, but what you have to do is, basically, add one or more lines to the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[10:15] <gnomefreak> synaptic is Debians package manager
[10:15] <LjL> NCLife: for example, my line for Universe is "deb http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe"
[10:15] <gfish> how do i print from a printer on the network
[10:15] <LjL> NCLife: that's from an Italian mirror though, it might not be very fast for you
[10:16] <LjL> NCLife: but simply adding "universe" to the list of things ("breezy main restricted", probably) in the main line of your sources.list should work
[10:16] <gnomefreak> gfish,  do you have the routers ip address?
[10:16] <n0dl> what packages do i need to start X
[10:17] <gfish> yep
[10:17] <NCLife> oh, um.. how can i find that sources.list :p
[10:17] <Archite> Fuck it, I'll just use Abiword for now and trash the Ubuntu install afterwards. Back to debian I guess.
[10:17] <ompaul> Archite, what I am suggesting is that there may be parts missing - like the one I mentioned and this one >>  openoffice.org-l10n-en  << assuming you are using the language englishy
[10:17] <gnomefreak> n0dl, ubuntu starts X automatically unless you do server install
[10:17] <gfish> gnomefreak>yeah
[10:17] <n0dl> gnomefreak: i did
[10:17] <ompaul> Archite, language is not really required
[10:17] <zell1983> hi
[10:17] <Archite> ompaul: I got just about everything installed. Kinda weird though
[10:17] <zell1983> I want to add a new user
[10:17] <n0dl> gnomefreak: which packages do i need to run X do you know?
[10:17] <zell1983> with sudo privilege
[10:17] <Archite> ompaul: I guess just one more issue with a 32-bit prog and a 64-bit system
[10:18] <ompaul> Archite, there is a tab that you use for adding in that
[10:18] <zell1983> how can I do this?
[10:18] <LjL> NCLife: it's in /etc/apt
[10:18] <LjL> NCLife: do "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:18] <Slackwise> Honestly, where can I get the official ubuntu theme as a standard theme package?
[10:18] <gnomefreak> gfish,  use cups and when it asks local or network printer use network for the pc that does not have printer hooked up and use the ipaddress where it asks you for host make sure the printer pc is set to local printing
[10:18] <NCLife> oh, okay okay :) thaks
[10:18] <zell1983> I want to add a new user with sudo privilege, how can I do this?
[10:18] <LjL> NCLife: no, actually, you don't have gedit i suppose since you don't have gnome, so make it "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:18] <ompaul> Archite, if you give me a min I will find you something that you may not be aware of
[10:18] <gnomefreak> n0dl, what kind of install for ubuntu did you do?
[10:19] <n0dl> gnomefreak: server
[10:19] <NCLife> and what should do that?
[10:19] <mustard5> zell1983, on gnome?
[10:19] <zell1983> mustard5, yes
[10:19] <gnomefreak> n0dl, you see a command line?
[10:19] <n0dl> gnomefreak: i wanted ubuntu clean install with openbox
[10:19] <LjL> NCLife: make you edit the file of course
[10:19] <jabbahut> Can someone please direct me to a "working" set of repositories for Breezy.
[10:19] <n0dl> gnomfreak: yeah
[10:19] <Archite> ompaul: thanks
[10:19] <LjL> NCLife: or "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list", for a textmode editor
[10:19] <mustard5> zell1983, System>>Administration>>Users  add the user and check his privileges
[10:19] <NCLife> okayz, ill do that
[10:20] <zell1983> mustard5, you mean same group of the other user?
[10:20] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install openbox i think thats the right command i dont use openbox but that looks right
[10:20] <zell1983> I'll check
[10:20] <n0dl> gnomefreak: i did that but when i run startx it tells me
[10:20] <gnomefreak> im not sure if there is an openbox-desktop
[10:20] <n0dl> the command is not fount
[10:20] <n0dl> *found
[10:20] <ompaul> Archite, tools -> options -> language -> settings languages  << that used to catch me out
[10:21] <mustard5> zell1983, well it depends how you have admin setup...you can look in your /etc/sudoers file to see that...whether you have an %admin group or sudoers are listed by username
[10:21] <gnomefreak> ompaul, is openbox gdm or odm?
[10:21] <zell1983> oh ok thanks mustard5
[10:21] <Archite> ompaul: That's all set up correctly, unfortunitely.
[10:21] <mustard5> zell1983, in my etc/sudoers I am listed as a user...but some people have %admin which means that you need to add that person to the admin group
[10:21] <ompaul> gnomefreak, no idea
[10:22] <gfish> gnomefreak> can u explain in more detail private
[10:22] <ompaul> Archite, well then I have no idea
[10:22] <zell1983> mustard5, ok It works ;)
[10:22] <zell1983> thanks a lot
[10:22] <mustard5> zell1983, k
[10:22] <n0dl> ompaul: do you know if blackbox or fluxbox is odm or gdm
[10:22] <Dceptic0n> How do I manage the firewall? I get messages that certain ports are blocked...
[10:22] <n0dl> gnomefreak: have no idea of why it doesnt work?
[10:22] <Archite> ompaul: thanks though. This one of the few reasons I hate Ubuntu, you know?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> gfish,  i dont do private messages but try  "start gdm
[10:23] <gnomefreak> "
[10:23] <ompaul> Archite, you do have to add the spell data as I showed in that last thing but you reckon you  have your stuff installed .. so no idea where to go from there
[10:23] <n0dl> gnomefreak: so i try start gdm
[10:23] <n0dl> >
[10:23] <n0dl> *?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> yes try that
[10:23] <n0dl> ok
[10:23] <Archite> ompaul: I already installed it all, thinking that was the issue
[10:23] <gfish> gnomefreak> im a noob i only installed linux yesterday whats gdm?
[10:23] <n0dl> the command is not found
[10:24] <Archite> I don't know. I will play with it some more when I have time. For now, Abiword will work.
[10:24] <jabbahut> Can someone who is using Breezy send me your sources.list or tell me where to get one that works please.
[10:24] <gnomefreak> gdm=gnome desktop manager
[10:24] <ompaul> Archite, so i noted but I once I do those things it works so there is no additional info I can give you
[10:24] <gnomefreak> kdm is kde desktop manager
[10:24] <gfish> gnomefreak>how do i do that
[10:24] <Archite> ompaul: Thanks again ;)
[10:24] <gnomefreak> gfish as user not sudo type start gdm
[10:25] <ompaul> n0dl, why did you assume I would know, it is better to ask the channel cos I might not answer as I don't know, so ifyou have a question ask the channel not a person at random gives a higher chance of success
[10:25] <gnomefreak> i think :(
[10:25] <gfish> gnomefreak>where do i do this
[10:25] <gnomefreak> ompaul,  i asked you sir
[10:25] <gnomefreak> gfish command line
[10:26] <gfish> ok
[10:26] <ompaul> gnomefreak, after saying no to you I got a longer version of a very similar question from n0dl
[10:26] <gnomefreak> oh sorry i missed that
[10:26] <ompaul> gnomefreak, :-)
[10:26] <gnomefreak> :)
[10:26] <gfish> gnomefreak> i opened terminal and typed start gdm n it said command not recognised
[10:27] <tsume> hey, the little gansta kid isn't on the mainscreen anymore
[10:27] <gnomefreak> gfish are you sure its installed?
[10:27] <gfish> gnomefreak>no im not
[10:27] <fmasi> hi i like to know a program equivalent to Microsoft Vision for ubuntu
[10:27] <gnomefreak> gfish at command line as user type "start openbox" without the quotes see if that works
[10:28] <gnomefreak> gfish: run sudo apt-get install openbox
[10:28] <slide> How do i mount a floppy? Do i have to use the command line?
[10:28] <ompaul> fmasi, what function does that program provide?
[10:28] <n0dl> slide: try mount dev
[10:28] <slide> n0dl, huh?
[10:29] <fmasi> ompaul it creates ditagrams of computer networks you know when the shouw the structure of a network etc...
[10:29] <gfish> gnomefreak>done that
[10:29] <gfish> and installed
[10:29] <n0dl> slide: try mount /dev in term
[10:29] <slide> you mean, mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy ?
[10:29] <ompaul> fmasi, have a look at a program called 'dia'
[10:30] <fmasi> i took a fast look but dident find the predone icones etc... that vision have
[10:30] <fmasi> i ead the images of switches etc...
[10:30] <gnomefreak> im wondering gfish is there areason why you want only openbox?
[10:31] <gnomefreak> openbox isnt all the noob freindly :(
[10:31] <ompaul> fmasi, so click on assorted
[10:31] <Stormx2> openbox?
[10:31] <Stormx2> !openbox
[10:31] <ubotu> Stormx2: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:31] <Stormx2> :(
[10:31] <gfish> gnomefreak>im only wanting ro be able to print off a printer on the network
[10:31] <gnomefreak> lol Stormx2
[10:32] <gnomefreak> gfish,  without a grafical desktop what do you plan on printing?
[10:32] <gnomefreak> i dont think a server install will even give you a text browser without you choosing one
[10:32] <fmasi> ompaul in asourted the is not the thing i nead
[10:32] <gfish> gnomefreak> i only want to print documents
[10:33] <Stormx2> gnomefreak: You can print text without a desktop
[10:33] <gnomefreak> gfish,  a server install isnt gonna help you print server install is more for like running a webserver
[10:33] <gfish> ok
[10:33] <gnomefreak> Stormx2,  yes i know that but my point is that if he doesnt have anything on screen to print its usless
[10:34] <gnomefreak> gfish: run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:34] <gfish> gnomefreak> i want to be able to print a text document i create in open ofice on a printer on my network
[10:35] <gnomefreak> gfish,  a desktop isnt gonna stop you from printing a text doc or for open office
[10:36] <ompaul> fmasi, maybe you can draw a something and stick in there http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2001/02/15/LinuxAdmin.html << this may also be useful
[10:36] <gnomefreak> i have 4 different desktops and i print just fine
[10:36] <gnomefreak> text or grafical
[10:36] <fmasi> ompaul thx
[10:36] <gfish> gnomefreak>text
[10:37] <gnomefreak> gfish,  i can print text just fine with 4 desktops installed
[10:37] <fmasi> ompaul gona see that i come backlater hx for the help bybby
[10:38] <gfish> gnomefreak> i dont understand what u want me to do
[10:38] <Dceptic0n> How do I manage the firewall? I get messages that certain ports are blocked...
[10:38] <witless> es the gnome shell properly escape/quote arguments when copying from an sftp:// folder to a local folder?  i'm getting errors when the filename contains a colon...
[10:39] <witless> does the gnome shell properly escape/quote arguments when copying from an sftp:// folder to a local folder?  i'm getting errors when the filename contains a colon...
[10:39] <gnomefreak> gfish,  you neeed to tell me what you want on your pc and what you dont want
[10:39] <n0dl> is groverain in yet?
[10:40] <gfish> gnomefreak> the only thing i want to do is to print my documents i create on open office on the printer which is in the next room
[10:40] <gnomefreak> gfish: why did you do a server install?
[10:40] <misfit_toy> what's the best package to use for joining .avi files together?
[10:40] <gfish> gnomefreak> i didnt
[10:41] <misfit_toy> cat file1 file2 > file3 takes FOREVER
[10:41] <misfit_toy> so there has to be a good package for this, avidemux maybe?
[10:41] <misfit_toy> just looking for opinions
[10:42] <gnomefreak> ok confused sorry gfish  ok do you have cups installed?
[10:42] <gfish> gnomefreak> how can i tell
[10:43] <gnomefreak> gfish, system than printing
[10:43] <knubbe> anyone who can tell my why my firefox always use utf-8? even though i have iso 8859-1 as default in my settings
[10:44] <gfish> gnomefreak>ok im that far
[10:44] <gnomefreak> gfish after clicking system tna clicking printing do you see a brownish color screen?
[10:45] <Stormx2> How do I reload the fonts list
[10:45] <Stormx2> I just added a new font
[10:45] <EspTho> i have a new 5.10 install but i can't get on the internet.. i have configured it to static ip and i have specified the DNS server.. but it isn't workning
[10:45] <muep> how do I add a new ethernet card to the system?
[10:45] <EspTho> any takers ? :p
[10:45] <gfish> gnomefreak> i see a printer which says add printer
[10:45] <gnomefreak> gfish, click on printer than new peinter
[10:45] <muep> I have it physically in place but ubuntu refuses to notice
[10:45] <Stormx2> EspTho: You've configured the gateway, etc?
[10:46] <gfish> gnomefreak>ok
[10:46] <Stormx2> muep: System > Administration > Networking
[10:46] <gnomefreak> gfish, where it says printer type click network printer
[10:46] <muep> it is a card that I think should function with via-rhine module
[10:46] <gfish> done that
[10:46] <muep> Stormx2, it isn't there
[10:46] <EspTho> Stormx2, yeah.. it looks like it finds the router..
[10:46] <gfish> gnomefreak>done that
[10:46] <Stormx2> Reload fonts?
[10:46] <EspTho> Stormx2, but it just times out when i use firefox
[10:46] <gnomefreak> gfish,  where it says URI type the ip address of router
[10:46] <n0dl> how would i set up X in the base system?
[10:47] <muep> all I have there is eth0
[10:47] <Stormx2> I'm sure i did it like, yesterday >.>
[10:47] <cornflake> will there ever be a permanent ubuntu-unstable repository?
[10:47] <gfish> but its on an windows pc
[10:47] <Stormx2> EspTho: Try pinging the router. Open terminal, ping it
[10:47] <muep> eth1 isn't in ifconfig either
[10:47] <Stormx2> EspTho: If that works, try pinging google
[10:47] <gfish> gnomefreak>its on a windows pc
[10:47] <n0dl> Does anyone know how to install X on the base system?
[10:47] <gnomefreak> gfish i dont think it matters
[10:47] <gfish> ok
[10:47] <gfish> i need to get the ip
[10:48] <gnomefreak> gfish, yes for the router
[10:48] <muep> lspci doesn't list the card though
[10:48] <EspTho> Stormx2, uhm.. it says destination host unreachable
[10:48] <gfish> gnomefreak i know it
[10:48] <Stormx2> EspTho: When you pinged the router?
[10:48] <n0dl> can someone help me with X?
[10:48] <EspTho> Stormx2, yeah :p
[10:48] <gnomefreak> gfish, after you put the ip address in click next than pick your printer out of the list
[10:49] <Stormx2> EspTho: Reset the router. Wait for it to boot back up, then go into networking and disable & enable the device
[10:49] <gfish> ok
[10:49] <Stormx2> Ack, how do I reload the font cache?!
[10:49] <freakcode> hi guys
[10:49] <EspTho> Stormx2, okey.. i'll try
[10:49] <n0dl> i get this error when i try to start X etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc: line 2:/usr/bin/X11/x: No usch file or directory
[10:49] <gnomefreak> hi freakcode
[10:49] <freakcode> anyone with nvidia module problems?
[10:49] <Stormx2> n0dl: uh oh >.>
[10:50] <Stormx2> !nivida
[10:50] <ubotu> Stormx2: What?
[10:50] <Stormx2> !nvidia
[10:50] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:50] <Stormx2> >.> damn my spelling
[10:50] <freakcode> i got the following "issue"... cant get AGP 8x to work
[10:50] <n0dl> i get this error when i try to start X etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc: line 2:/usr/bin/X11/x: exec: cannot exec no such file etc
[10:50] <dino-> anyone tested cedega here? need some help...
[10:50] <gfish> gnomefreak> then i click apply
[10:50] <Stormx2> n0dl: We saw. Don't repeat
[10:50] <freakcode> agpgart returns on dmesg that its on 4x... and no NVReg helps
[10:50] <gnomefreak> gfish, doe sit have the printer and give you a driver?
[10:50] <n0dl> Stormx2: have any ideas?
[10:50] <Stormx2> n0dl: How have you managed to delete that?!
[10:51] <n0dl> Stormx2: im trying to install x from a clean BASE install
[10:51] <gnomefreak> gfish, if so click the install driver button
[10:51] <n0dl> Stormx2: I never had it ni the first place
[10:51] <EspTho> Stormx2, just like take out the power or use some kind of reset button?
[10:51] <freakcode> who got a nvidia card working on ubuntu here?
[10:51] <gnomefreak> n0dl,  im pretty sure you need the X-base package
[10:51] <Stormx2> EspTho: If there is a switch, flick it. otherwise taking the power out usually does the trick
[10:52] <n0dl> gnomefreak: do you know how to get that? sudo apt-get X-base?
[10:52] <EspTho> Stormx2, okey
[10:52] <gfish> gnomefreak>where do i install
[10:52] <Stormx2> n0dl: Why are you installing X from a clean base install?
[10:52] <gnomefreak> gfish,  does it ask you where to install it?
[10:52] <n0dl> does anyone know what the X-base package is called?
[10:53] <gfish> gnomefreak, it says select a ppd
[10:53] <n0dl> Stormx2: because i wanted to clean install with Openbox as my GUI
[10:53] <Xenguy> n0dl: xserver-xorg
[10:53] <gnomefreak> gfish, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
[10:54] <Stormx2> n0dl: "sudo apt-get install openbox openbox-themes" <-- this not good enough for ya?
[10:54] <gnomefreak> gfish go to that site and look it will tell you
[10:54] <n0dl> Stormx2: its apt-get openbox obconf but i already did taht i need to get X
[10:54] <Stormx2> n0dl: >.>
[10:55] <gnomefreak> do they have a openbox-desktop package?
[10:55] <Stormx2> n0dl: Why not do a standard install then run that?
[10:55] <Stormx2> gnomefreak: let me see.
[10:55] <Stormx2> gnomefreak: no, but theres only 3 packages you need for openbox anyway
[10:55] <Stormx2> How do I reload font cache?
[10:56] <gfish> gnomefreak, my printer isnt on the list
[10:56] <gnomefreak> not a clue sorry Stormx2
[10:56] <n0dl> Xenguy: thanx ill be back if i need help
[10:56] <Stormx2> !fonts
[10:56] <ubotu> [fonts]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[10:56] <DShepherd> hey
[10:56] <Stormx2> handy
[10:56] <gnomefreak> gfish,  what printer is it and was it in the first list in cups?
[10:57] <gnomefreak> !network printing
[10:57] <ubotu> network printing is probably http://occy.net/printing
[10:58] <pixelmonkey> is anyone here using usplash for their bootup process?  Is it just enabled after you install the usplash package?
[10:59] <freakcode> pixelmonkey:  i think it needs some grub loading parameter for it
[10:59] <Marlun> Anyone who knows if theres a tutorial which goes through the steps of getting gnome installed on a server-installation? (I made a server-installation because I wanted to see and learn how you installed everything yourself instead of having it all after installation)
[10:59] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell gfish  about network printing
[11:00] <freakcode> but by default it adds the usplash
[11:00] <gfish> gnomefreak, i figured it
[11:00] <gnomefreak> ok good
[11:01] <gfish> gnomefreak, but the printer is attatched to the network through a windows pc
[11:01] <gnomefreak> gfish,  it shouldnt matter
[11:01] <Stormx2> Aaack!!!
[11:02] <Stormx2> dragging and dropping fonts onto fonts:/// does *not* work!
[11:02] <gfish> hmm ok
[11:02] <gnomefreak> although it would be easier if you dumped winblows :) j/k
[11:02] <tcmjr> Can I install kde apps on gnome ?
[11:02] <gnomefreak> tcmjr, yes but you will need kde base and some libs
[11:03] <Atmasaro> I have an S3 ProSavage DDR video card and I just recently downloaded the driver that supposedly supports DRI. Now, when I load Ubuntu, it goes blank at the login screen...
[11:03] <n0dl> whats the package for Xterm called?
[11:03] <gnomefreak> if you sudo apt-get install <packagename> it will ask you if you want the dependencies and the answer is YES
[11:03] <knubbe> hmm
[11:04] <gnomefreak> brb
[11:05] <MetalMan82> Stormx2, didn't work.. ping just replies Destination host unreachable.. i've also tried switching to DHCP but that didn't work at all..
[11:05] <Stormx2> MetalMan82: Can't ping router?
[11:05] <n0dl> Anyone know what the Xterm package is?
[11:05] <n0dl> called
[11:05] <Stormx2> !xterm
[11:05] <ubotu> Stormx2: I haven't a clue
[11:05] <Stormx2> >.>
[11:05] <Stormx2> no
[11:06] <esptho_> Stormx2, nah..
[11:06] <server_newbie> anyone know about lightsquid? I am getting the following message and I am at a loss on how to corest it
[11:06] <server_newbie> WARNING !!!!, parsed 0 lines from total : 0
[11:06] <server_newbie> please check confiuration !!!!
[11:06] <server_newbie> may be wrong log format selected ?
[11:07] <Marlun> What do I need to get gnome up after a server-install? I want as little as possible to be installed so I can choose what applications to install later. I know theres a "ubuntu-desktop" but does that one not install alot of other apps too?
[11:07] <esptho_> Stormx2, i've noticed one thing.. the DNS is 192.168.0.1.. this is windows xp
[11:07] <LjL> Marlun: why don't you just install the programs you need?
[11:08] <esptho_> Stormx2, and clearly this computer works..
[11:08] <gfish> ok
[11:08] <Marlun> LjL: I want to know how to install gnome first :)
[11:08] <gfish> can someone else help
[11:08] <gnomefreak> is there an easier way to change nicks without typing /msg nickserv identify?
[11:08] <gfish> i get not certified
[11:08] <gfish> to print
[11:08] <LjL> Marlun: but installing a program that uses Gnome will install (the relevant parts of) Gnome
[11:08] <n0dl> Is anyone here experienced with openbox?
[11:08] <gnomefreak> not certified?
[11:09] <Marlun> LjL: oh! So if I install xchat, which I know I want, gnome will be installed too?
[11:09] <gfish> gnomefreak> (client-error-not-authorized)!
[11:09] <LjL> Marlun: x-chat is only a GTK app, not a gnome app, i think. anyway, not *
[11:10] <gnomefreak> gfish,  is your windows pc on?
[11:10] <LjL> Marlun: x-chat is only a GTK app, not a gnome app, i think. anyway, not *gnome* will be installed, but just the relevant libraries
[11:10] <LjL> Marlun: anyway, i think the package you're looking for is gnome-core
[11:10] <Paradoxx> if i burn an mpeg2 file to a dvd, will it automatically be able to play in a dvd player?
[11:10] <Marlun> LjL: Ok, I'll take a look at it :) thanks
[11:10] <gfish> gnomefreak>yes
[11:10] <LjL> Marlun: what you need, basically, to have Gnome running is a display manager (like GDM) and the gnome-panel, the rest will be installed by itself when it's needed
[11:11] <LjL> Marlun: but gnome-core should do the trick of having a ready-to-run Gnome desktop when you login, anyway
[11:11] <esptho_> can anyone help me? seems Stormx2 has taken a brake :p
[11:11] <gnomefreak> gfish,  i dont know im sorry i never got that message when trying to print
[11:11] <gfish> hmm
[11:11] <gfish> i typed the router pass in
[11:11] <Paradoxx> if i burn an mpeg2 file to a dvd, will it automatically be able to play in a dvd player?
[11:11] <gfish> yes#
[11:11] <Marlun> LjL: hmmm can't seem to find gnome-core with "apt-cache search gnome-core"?
[11:12] <LjL> Marlun: that's because it's in Universe i suppose, and you only have main
[11:12] <n0dl> does anyone know anyhting about openbox?
[11:12] <gnomefreak> Marlun, have you tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[11:13] <Marlun> gnomefreak: No since I think it installs alot of other apps, I just want gnome so I can install the apps I want and nothing more :)
[11:13] <n0dl> does anyone know anything about openbox or the channel for it?
[11:14] <Paradoxx> !dvd
[11:14] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:14] <Marlun> LjL: ah, ok, then I'll add universe and try again :) How come Gnome is in Universe?
[11:14] <LjL> Marlun: look, i'd just install "gnome-panel" and see if GDM (if you have it installed, that is, otherwise install it) gives me Gnome as an option
[11:14] <LjL> if it were for me
[11:14] <gnomefreak> n0dl,  try #openbox since this is ubuntu we focus on gnome
[11:14] <LjL> Marlun: because that package isn't maintained by the Ubuntu team, i suppose. that's another reason why i'd personally avoid installing it
[11:15] <LjL> Marlun: it's just a metapackage anyway, look at the dependencies
[11:15] <gnomefreak> !gnome-core
[11:15] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:15] <gnomefreak> yes darnit
[11:15] <gnomefreak> :(
[11:15] <gnomefreak> that bot hates me :)
[11:15] <LjL> !find gnome-core
[11:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'gnome-core' (2 shown): gnome-core ;; gnome-core-devel.
[11:15] <gfish> gnomefreak> Ready: Unable to get printer status (client-error-not-authorized)! <thats the status
[11:15] <LjL> !info gnome-core
[11:15] <ubotu> gnome-core: (The GNOME Desktop Environment -- essential components), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1:2.10.1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 40 kB
[11:15] <esptho_> i have a newly installed 5.10 ubuntu.. and i have set up the network to stattic ip.. the DNS specified on this xp computer is 192.168.0.1 that's also the gateway/dhcp server.. when i 'ping 192.168.0.1' i get replied destination host unreachable..
[11:16] <Paradoxx> if i burn an mpeg2 file to a dvd, will it automatically be able to play in a dvd player?
[11:16] <gnomefreak> gfish, im not sure im sorry
[11:16] <gnomefreak> LjL,  do you have universe enabled?
[11:16] <gfish> gnomefreak> do u think i can get help in the forums
[11:16] <LjL> gnomefreak: yes
[11:16] <Marlun> LjL: I don't think I have GDM installed, I have not installed anything after the server isntallation.
[11:17] <nishiroyato> Hello.  I have many questions as a first time linux user.
[11:17] <gnomefreak> gfish, yes try ubuntuforums.org or com or what ever the end is
[11:17] <LjL> Marlun: then "sudo aptitude install gdm", you'll need it anyway. or "sudo aptitude install xdm" if you want something *really* lightweight (and ugly)
[11:17] <LjL> Marlun: GDM (or XDM, or KDM) are just your "display managers", i.e. your login screen, anyway
[11:17] <sethk> nishiroyato, just jump in and ask
[11:18] <Marlun> LjL: No I don't want it very lightweight, I just don't want more then I want :P
[11:18] <Paradoxx> if i burn an mpeg2 file to a dvd, will it automatically be able to play in a dvd player?
[11:18] <gfish> it says cant get status
[11:18] <Marlun> LjL: okey, will install, brb :)
[11:18] <nishiroyato> i've put a second hard disk in my computer.  the original one with the OSX installation was put in as the second disk and the new disk is the first disk, which ive installed ubuntu
[11:18] <mawe> hi all. having trouble with the nvidia driver under hoary. according to the xorg.log everything load fine, no errors. but running glxgears has no effect. no crash or anythin, glxgears just doesn't do anything... any ideas?
[11:18] <esptho_> anyone? sorry for the nagging :P
[11:18] <nishiroyato> now, I'd like to mount my OSX drive in ubuntu
[11:18] <gfish> Paradoxx> no it will need to be authoured before
[11:19] <gnomefreak> !nvidia
[11:19] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:19] <LjL> Marlun: you won't get more than you want, i assure you... at most, *less*, but that can be fixed by installing more stuff ;)
[11:19] <gimmulF> Intel 3ghz or Amd 64 3200+    ?
[11:19] <sethk> nishiroyato, you need kernel support for the osx file system
[11:19] <Paradoxx> gfish: how i go about doing that?
[11:19] <Marlun> LjL: good :)
[11:19] <nishiroyato> how do i do that?
[11:19] <LjL> Marlun: do you have an X server anyway?
[11:20] <Paradoxx> gimmulF: AMD 64 3200+ all the way
[11:20] <sethk> nishiroyato, I have to check whether that is available with the install kernel.  If it isn't, you rebuild the kernel with that option turned on.
[11:20] <gimmulF> oki :)
[11:20] <LjL> Marlun: (i'm not sure what comes with a "server installation", that's why i ask)
[11:20] <gnomefreak> !dinner
[11:20] <ubotu> gnomefreak: I give up, what is it?
[11:20] <Marlun> LjL: I'm not sure (sorry)
[11:20] <gnomefreak> brb
[11:20] <Marlun> LjL: how can I check?
[11:20] <n0dl> No server does not have X
[11:20] <sethk> nishiroyato, that might sound intimidating but it isn't really difficult
[11:20] <n0dl> Server does not come with X when you install it
[11:20] <n0dl> you have to install a series of X like did
[11:21] <n0dl> X packages i mean
[11:21] <LjL> Marlun: well, just install GDM for now, maybe it depends on the xorg server
[11:21] <Paradoxx> gfish:  how do i go about doing that?
[11:21] <gfish> paradox> im not sure im new to ubuntu myself
[11:21] <Paradoxx> kk
[11:21] <LjL> Marlun: if it doesn't, then "sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg" should do
[11:21] <Paradoxx> how do i go about doing it in windows?
[11:21] <nishiroyato> it does, but it must be done.  other questions i might have may also relate to rebuilding the kernel.  such as, i want to install the linuxwacom drivers
[11:21] <gfish> nero
[11:21] <gfish> use nero
[11:21] <LjL> Marlun: to try starting GDM and see if it works (and if X is installed), do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[11:21] <gfish> im sure u will be able to do it in linux
[11:22] <n0dl> LjL: Do you know how to start Xterm in X windows?
[11:22] <Paradoxx> gfish: which nero?
[11:22] <n0dl> LjL: im using Openbox
[11:22] <Marlun> Now it wanted the Ubuntu CD, I thought it was going to download it, but ok :)
[11:22] <simonvallore> root@ubuntu:/home/simonvallore# dvdbackup -i hdc -I isnt hdc my cd drive if not how do i find it ?
[11:22] <Marlun> proberby installs all the apps on the cd ;P
[11:22] <LjL> n0dl: i have no idea with openbox, never used it... but GDM, KDM or whatever should have a "safe mode" (or somesuch) in their "Session" menu to have you start an xterm
[11:23] <sethk> nishiroyato, right.  once you've rebuilt the kernel, then doing it again is simple, you just run the configuration (make xconfig), change the options, and build.
[11:23] <LjL> Marlun: just remove the CD line from /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:23] <n0dl> LjL: do i need GDM? i thought thats just a log screen
[11:23] <LjL> Marlun: and do "sudo apt-get update"
[11:23] <simonvallore> root@ubuntu:/home/simonvallore# dvdbackup -i hdc -I isnt hdc my cd drive if not how do i find it ?
[11:23] <sethk> nishiroyato, first step is to use the install thing and install the kernel source
[11:23] <sethk> nishiroyato, have you  done that yet?
[11:24] <Marlun> LjL: Well, It's using the cd now, guess it doesn't matter where it gets the stuff?
[11:24] <LjL> n0dl: yeah, it's the login screen... how exactly are you going to start X without it? that is unless you're using startx, are you?
[11:24] <nishiroyato> i havent.  where do i go for it?
[11:24] <n0dl> LjL: yeah im using startx
[11:24] <LjL> Marlun: no it doesn't, unless there are some updates on the 'net, but you can always get them later
[11:24] <LjL> n0dl: then "man startx"
[11:25] <simonvallore> root@ubuntu:/home/simonvallore# dvdbackup -i hdc -I isnt hdc my cd drive if not how do i find it ?
[11:25] <n0dl> brb
[11:26] <sethk> nishiroyato, menu system, administration, install new applications.  Then file/advanced.  Then you can look through the packages, or use the search
[11:26] <gfish> pardoxx, any new version u need nero vision express its a plugin for nero btw there is nero for linux dunno if u can use vision express though
[11:27] <Marlun> LjL: I did the gdm start, it started up but then I got "Failed to start the X server...", so I guess I don't have it :P
[11:27] <simonvallore> root@ubuntu:/home/simonvallore# dvdbackup -i hdc -I isnt hdc my cd drive if not how do i find it ?
[11:27] <Marlun> LjL: Or maybe it's not configured correctly.
[11:28] <LjL> Marlun: try typing "X"
[11:28] <LjL> Marlun: if it's not there, it'll say command not found
[11:28] <nishiroyato> in 'add applicatons'  am i looking for the kernel source there?
[11:28] <Marlun> LjL: yeah, it's not here
[11:28] <LjL> nishiroyato: no, not really, i don't think
[11:28] <Marlun> or there
[11:28] <LjL> Marlun: "sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg" then
[11:29] <gfish> does anyone know how to create a dvd from an avi file
[11:29] <LjL> nishiroyato: use aptitude or synaptic. "aptitude install linux-source" will get it
[11:29] <LjL> nishiroyato: with a "sudo" in front of it
[11:29] <Ricapar> hello
[11:29] <LjL> hi
[11:29] <nishiroyato> okay, im trying that
[11:30] <LjL> nishiroyato: but, my two cents are, if you don't know how to install a package, you probably shouldn't try compiling a custom kernel
[11:30] <n0dl> does anyone know what Xterm needs tor run?
[11:30] <LjL> n0dl: nothing more than an X server, i think
[11:31] <sethk> nishiroyato, it's probably easier from the command line, but if you do file/advanced, and then search, you will find the kernel source in the GUI
[11:31] <LjL> sethk: "linux-source" is the package name
[11:31] <nishiroyato> in that case, i need a good lesson on installing packages.  are packages the form in which programs come?
[11:31] <nishiroyato> or are packages part of the kernel compiling?
[11:31] <n0dl> LjL: hmm thats awkward i wonder why it doesnt pop up
[11:31] <sethk> LjL, thanks
[11:31] <sethk> nishiroyato, in this case, both
[11:32] <LjL> n0dl: what are you typing?
[11:32] <gfish> can i use my gmai account in evolution mail
[11:32] <sethk> nishiroyato, the kernel source is a package, just like anything else you might install
[11:32] <sethk> nishiroyato, although, unlike a program, you install the kernel source so that you can build it, rather than run it.
[11:32] <LjL> nishiroyato: yeah packages are the *preferred* form for getting programs in Ubuntu
[11:32] <n0dl> LjL: i type startx
[11:32] <LjL> n0dl: try "startx xterm"
[11:32] <n0dl> LjL: then i left click and try clicking on terminal emulator
[11:32] <n0dl> ij
[11:32] <n0dl> ok
[11:32] <n0dl> brb
[11:32] <Marlun> LjL: Installed it, and typed "X" it stopped giving error "Couldn not init font path element..." ... "Could not open default font 'fixed';" and also: People inexperienced with the X Window System (that me) should have the "x-window-system" or "x-window-system-core" packages installed."
[11:33] <nishiroyato> are packages te tbz or tar or bz2 files ive downloaded?
[11:33] <sethk> nishiroyato, no
[11:33] <sethk> nishiroyato, those are usually source code archives.  The package manager doesn't know about them.
[11:33] <fatejudger> is there  a way to play Quicktime 7 movies using either xine or gstreamer?
[11:33] <jefletcher> Hi, i'm trying to play a DVD with mplayer but it gived the error "Can't read VGM info!"
[11:33] <jefletcher> anyone know why?
[11:33] <sethk> nishiroyato, I frequently use those to build, but when you do, remember that the package manager doesn't know about what you've built and installed that way.
[11:33] <LjL> Marlun: do that ;-) although i think in this case you should probably install "x-window-system", not the "-core" one... yes it will install a little bit more things, i assume, but i have a feeling it will save you from a lot of trouble
[11:33] <nishiroyato> is the package manager unique to ubuntu or a general linux thing?
[11:34] <LjL> nishiroyato: most linux distributions have some form of packaging
[11:34] <jcape> nishiroyato: ...though they tend to be different programs and file formats
[11:34] <LjL> nishiroyato: the two main systems used nowadays are RPM (from RedHat, now used by Fedora and Mandriva for example) and APT (from Debian, now used in Ubuntu, Mepis and others)
[11:34] <jefletcher> anyone know why Mplayer says "Can't read VGM info!" when I try to play a DVD?
[11:34] <nishiroyato> hmm, so if there isnt an ubuntu package for the linuxwacom driver, im shit out?
[11:35] <n0dl> LjL: a terminal showed up but it froze X
[11:35] <LjL> nishiroyato: note that, even though the packaging system is the same as Debian's, you *should not* install Debian packages or use Debian repositories in Ubuntu
[11:35] <fatejudger> LjL: you can install some deb packages
[11:35] <jcape> nishiroyato: Naw, you can compile one if you need it, it just tends to leave the system kinda messy
[11:35] <esptho_> i have a newly installed 5.10 ubuntu distro.. but i can't get the internet working.. i have specified the DNS and i have set it up for static ip.. it's a wlan btw.. but when i try to ping the router it replies destination host unreachable.. any one here that can help me?
[11:35] <n0dl> LjL: do you think i have to install all the X11 files?
[11:36] <nishiroyato> what about preparing source code into an ubuntu friendly package?
[11:36] <Marlun> LjL: hmm does not seem to work. "No candidate version found for x-window-system"
[11:36] <LjL> n0dl: X didn't freeze, i think, it just didn't start your OpenBox. "startx xterm" just start X with an xterm, and nothing else. for running it inside OpenBox, i think you should find a "run program" or "execute command" (or something) menu, and type "xterm" there, if the default "Terminal emulator" button doesn't work
[11:36] <LjL> n0dl: the "Terminal emulator" button is probably looking for some *different* terminal that is not xterm, i think
[11:36] <jcape> nishiroyato: You can do that, though doing kernel stuff in debian packages is a pain (I've done it before)
[11:36] <sethk> nishiroyato, the programs to create the ubuntu (debian) packages are all available to install on your ubuntu system, and they are quite good
[11:36] <n0dl> LjL: so what exactly do you want me to do?
[11:36] <LjL> n0dl: what X11 files don't you have installed?
[11:36] <benplaut> anyone here make metacity themes? i'm modding one, and one thing won't work :/
[11:37] <n0dl> LjL: just the base and xterm thats it
[11:37] <nishiroyato> linux is confusing to the point where i dont even know where to start
[11:37] <jcape> nishiroyato: It's usually easier to just build the module and put it in the directory, then delete/re-build it when you upgrade to a newer kernel
[11:37] <LjL> n0dl: and openbox, i suppose?
[11:37] <sethk> nishiroyato, then for now use the packages that ubuntu provides
[11:37] <n0dl> LjL: yes
[11:37] <vbgunz> anybody here use devilspie?
[11:37] <n0dl> should install the other X11 files?
[11:37] <sethk> nishiroyato, one big advantage of ubuntu here is that the package manager takes care of a lot of these details for you, which makes it easier to learn.  Then you can go back later and figure out the rest.
[11:38] <jefletcher> anyone know why Mplayer says "Can't read VGM info!" when I try to play a DVD? I have the libdvdcss2 installed, but for some reason it wont play?
[11:38] <LjL> Marlun: hmm that's true. but "-core" is there. but, before trying "-core", i think you should give "sudo aptitude install xorg-common" a try
[11:38] <nishiroyato> okay.  then, mounting my OSX drive aside, my first goal Id like to accomplish is turning this linuxwacom driver source code into a ubuntu package
[11:38] <Marlun> LjL: hehe ok :P
[11:38] <vbgunz> sethk: may I ask you a question? I might have overlooked it *but* does Synaptioc provide a history? A history of applications I manually installed?
[11:38] <n0dl> LjL: should i install the other X11 files?
[11:39] <sethk> vbgunz, it maintains the database through which you can find out what has been installed.  I'm not sure about whether it can tell you exactly when you installed it.
[11:39] <gfish> whats the best torrent client for linix
[11:39] <gfish> *linux
[11:39] <LjL> n0dl: i'm really not sure what "other X11" files you're thinking about. what i think, anyway, is that you should simply look up on OpenBox's manual how to start arbitrary programs, or how to add them to the programs menu (assuming OpenBox has one)
[11:39] <sethk> nishiroyato, you have to do a kernel build for that also, as we said earlier.  So install the kernel source package.
[11:40] <sethk> nishiroyato, LjL told you the package name
[11:40] <somerville32> How do I mount USB?
[11:40] <Marlun> LjL: Nothing about "no candidate" but the same packages was "kept back" as when i tried the x-window-system. (4 not upgraded)
[11:40] <vbgunz> sethk: not when I installed *but* everything I manually installed? I installed a few things... some stuff I probably don't even use... Would like to track them down and do away with them... I currently use debfoster *but* am curious if maybe Synaptic provides a sort of history view...
[11:40] <Marlun> LjL: and nothing was installed
[11:40] <LjL> Marlun: note that i'm always saying "aptitude", and i advise you to actually use it, as with "aptitude" you'll be able to easily remove anything that's not really needed -- if you use apt-get, that will be harder
[11:40] <nishiroyato> sudo aptitude install linux-source right?
[11:41] <somerville32> How do I mount my usb jumpdrive?
[11:41] <LjL> Marlun: hmm? what's being kept back?
[11:41] <sethk> vbgunz, by manually, you mean with apt-get at the command line?
[11:41] <LjL> nishiroyato: yes
[11:41] <LjL> Marlun: do a "sudo apt-get update"
[11:41] <Marlun> LjL: yeah I was actually going to ask about that :P but I've been using aptitude.
[11:42] <vbgunz> sethk: either way... I instinctively look for it *but* maybe over look it... It's unusual such a nice application doesn't at least keep track of the things *I installed*... Do you understand?
[11:42] <LjL> Marlun: with aptitude, if you install package A and that in turns installs package B, package B will be automatically removed when you remove package A (unless, of course, there is some other package C that also wants B)
[11:42] <Marlun> LjL: kept back: libgnutls11, libssl0.9.7, sudo, wget
[11:42] <nishiroyato> error 'could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:42] <Khaaaaan> Darn I just accidentally installed X-Chat when I meant to install X Chat 2 :(
[11:42] <somerville32> How do I mount my usb jumpdrive?
[11:42] <gfish> can i get help with a torrent client
[11:42] <Marlun> LjL: ah okey, thanks :)
[11:42] <watnu> somerville32: plug it in and it should be recognized
[11:42] <gfish> i need one
[11:42] <LjL> Marlun: "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade". i think you just need some updated packages from the Net
[11:42] <somerville32> watnu: Where would it be mounted to?
[11:43] <Madpilot> gfish: GnomeTorrent is included by default, for downloading
[11:43] <LjL> nishiroyato: close Synaptic or whatever installer you have open
[11:43] <nishiroyato> yep, that did it
[11:43] <watnu> somerville32: in /media/usb
[11:43] <somerville32> I think it might be becuase I'm using xfce4
[11:43] <nishiroyato> i love how willing linux is to connect to some server and grab files
[11:43] <Marlun> LjL: not it seemed to update all of those that was kept back before.
[11:43] <somerville32> How I manually mount it?
[11:44] <LjL> Marlun: not=now?
[11:44] <nishiroyato> does every distrobution maintain such a server?
[11:44] <jefletcher> anyone know why Mplayer says "Can't read VGM info!" when I try to play a DVD? I have the libdvdcss2 installed, but for some reason it wont play?
[11:44] <watnu> somerville32: just plug it in
[11:44] <Marlun> LjL: yeah
[11:44] <LjL> Marlun: try again installing xorg-common, and if that doesn't give you a working X, then go and install x-window-system-core
[11:44] <somerville32> watnu: It is now plugged in and not mounted
[11:45] <LjL> Marlun: if xorg-common installs, try running /etc/init.d/gdm start again
[11:45] <Marlun> LjL: the common thing didn't install anything, tried to open X and got the same font error.
[11:45] <watnu> somerville32: weird.. up till now many cameraas and usb-sticks have been recognized automatically
[11:45] <somerville32> watnu: I'm not using Gnome
[11:45] <Marlun> LjL: can try that anyway :)
[11:45] <gfish> Madpilot, i know but i need to change the ports
[11:45] <somerville32> watnu: I'm using xfce4
[11:45] <LjL> Marlun: hold on
[11:45] <Marlun> LjL: nah, just get [fail] .
[11:46] <jefletcher> anyone know why Mplayer says "Can't read VGM info!" when I try to play a DVD? I have the libdvdcss2 installed, but for some reason it wont play?
[11:46] <watnu> somerville32: i use gnome or kde... i dont know xfce4 good enough
[11:46] <LjL> Marlun: install xserver-common (which is not the same as xorg-common ;)
[11:46] <Marlun> LjL: whops, sorry :)
[11:46] <LjL> Marlun: no no, i told you that
[11:46] <LjL> Marlun: my fault
[11:47] <LjL> Marlun: (anyway don't bother removing xorg-common, it's needed anyway)
[11:47] <Marlun> LjL: well, still 0 on everything. :P
[11:47] <LjL> Marlun: (and it was probably already installed when you installed xserver-xorg)
[11:47] <LjL> Marlun: nothing? well install x-window-system-core
[11:47] <Madpilot> gfish: BT uses standard ports, doesn't it? If you need to make sure the BT ports are open, install Firestarter and open the ports there
[11:47] <Marlun> LjL: ok :)
[11:48] <LjL> Marlun: it will not install things that are not really needed anyway
[11:49] <Marlun> LjL: 5 packages, and it's about fonts, sound promesing :P
[11:49] <LjL> Marlun: yeah, i think it will work now
[11:49] <Marlun> LjL: a gray screen! :)
[11:49] <LjL> Marlun: using "X"?
[11:49] <Marlun> LjL: yeah, and even a mouse pointer
[11:50] <LjL> Marlun: then gdm start should work this time
[11:50] <gfish> Madpilot> i need to change the ports because the default are rejected by tracker
[11:50] <Marlun> LjL: just trying to figure out how to get out of this :)
[11:50] <LjL> Marlun: ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:51] <Marlun> LjL: nice, but gdm still just gives me [fail] , it's like it doesn't even try, before it started up but then told me it failed, now it instantly gives me "Starting GNOME Display Manager [fail] "
[11:51] <nishiroyato> ive completed the aptitude install linux-source
[11:52] <LjL> Marlun: hmm are you running it with sudo?
[11:52] <LjL> Marlun: aso try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart", in case it thinks it's already started
[11:52] <sethk> nishiroyato, ok, you should now have a /usr/src/linux-2.6.xxx
[11:53] <Marlun> LjL: also when comming out of X Window, theres alot of warnings: "Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" already registered at priority 0" and like 10 of those with different "pcf.Z, etc."
[11:53] <sethk> nishiroyato, the xxxxx being the rest of the version
[11:53] <Marlun> LjL: ok
[11:53] <LjL> Marlun: there's always a lot of that stuff when starting X
[11:53] <Marlun> LjL: worked =) Ubuntu login screen
[11:54] <simonvallore> #ubuntu
[11:54] <sethk> nishiroyato, first thing I always do is back up that directory before I start to play around in it
[11:54] <sethk> nishiroyato, of course, you could reinstall the package, but backing up is always a good idea.
[11:54] <natex> could some one post or email thier evince.desktop and icons?
[11:54] <Marlun> LjL: Could we organize this a little, if I do this again :) What should I install (first)? :)
[11:54] <simonvallore> root@ubuntu:/home/simonvallore/Desktop# chmod 777 Storage
[11:54] <simonvallore> chmod: changing permissions of `Storage': Read-only file system
[11:54] <nishiroyato> okay.  copy and rename it somewhere?
[11:54] <LjL> Marlun: i think x-window-system-core and gdm would be enough
[11:54] <simonvallore> how do i make the drive viewable by regular users
[11:54] <sethk> nishiroyato, I just tar it
[11:55] <LjL> Marlun: if not, also xserver-xorg
[11:55] <dino-> how do i install VLC?
[11:55] <sethk> nishiroyato, I cd to the directory, and I do this:
[11:55] <LjL> Marlun: but now try and see if you actually *can* login
[11:55] <sethk> nishiroyato, tar cvjf ~/linux.source.backup.tar.bz2 .
[11:55] <eternalist> FliesLikeABrick: X isnt working
[11:55] <sethk> nishiroyato, note the dot at the end, which means "here"
[11:55] <LjL> Marlun: (and get to something nicer than an xterm, i.e. gnome)
[11:55] <eternalist> FliesLikeABrick: i had to press ctrl+alt f2 to get here
[11:55] <sethk> nishiroyato, the ~ means your home directory
[11:55] <LjL> Marlun: (though i'm not really sure gnome is nicer than an xterm)
[11:55] <FliesLikeABrick> eternalist do you understand X config enough to go in and try to fix it?
[11:56] <sethk> nishiroyato, the cvjf means create, verbose, compress with bzip2, put the stuff into a file
[11:56] <Marlun> LjL: what is xterm? =P
[11:56] <eternalist> yes
[11:56] <eternalist> ive seen it all before
[11:56] <sethk> nishiroyato, the f might seem odd, but that's because tar stands for "tape archiver", and the default thing to do used to be to back up to a tape
[11:56] <sethk> nishiroyato, and the syntax has persisted over the last 40 years or so.
[11:56] <FliesLikeABrick> sorry eternalist, it worked fine for me without extra meddling
[11:56] <FliesLikeABrick> :-/
[11:56] <FliesLikeABrick> i guess i just got lucky
[11:56] <LjL> Marlun: the oldest graphical terminal client for X -- the console in other words
[11:56] <nishiroyato> currently it looks like its already a tar.bz2 file
[11:56] <Marlun> LjL: I could login, I'm inside gnome now, however :P The dialog that comes up when you login which shows you whats is loading, has kinda freezed on nautilus, but I can move in the menus...
[11:56] <nishiroyato> ha, thats an interesting history
[11:57] <eternalist> FliesLikeABrick: what do i do?
[11:57] <nishiroyato> so i have to untar it?
[11:57] <FliesLikeABrick> undo what you did just now
[11:57] <Marlun> LjL: now it disapeared =)
[11:57] <FliesLikeABrick> restore your backup x config
[11:57] <LjL> Marlun: well i suppose that's 'cause you don't have Nautilus installed, you can install it if you feel it's a "basic" component of gnome
[11:57] <eternalist> whats the point in that!?
[11:57] <LjL> Marlun: it's the file manager, so personally, i'd find it quite "basic", but otoh it's not really *needed* i suppose
[11:57] <FliesLikeABrick> eternalist well are you asking me how to give up or how to get it working?
[11:57] <Marlun> LjL: woho, looks like its working :P and nautilus is installed.
[11:58] <eternalist> FliesLikeABrick: how to get it working.
[11:58] <FliesLikeABrick> because i don't know enough about the problem to help you get it working, sorry
[11:58] <eternalist> FliesLikeABrick: exact..
[11:58] <FliesLikeABrick> i told you that mine worked as it should have
[11:58] <Stanislav> Hey all
[11:58] <Marlun> LjL: don't know why the dialog hanged, disapeared when I opened nautilus.
[11:58] <LjL> Marlun: ok, then now you can just install the apps you want. you might miss a couple of things in the Gnome panel or menus or stuff, but that's precisely the point of doing a "barebones" install ;)
[11:58] <FliesLikeABrick> eternalist does the X error output say anything helpful?
[11:59] <LjL> Marlun: perhaps it won't even do it next time, i'm not sure why it did
[11:59] <Marlun> LjL: So the steps are. 1. x-window-system-core. 2. gdm. 3. xserver-xorg? =)
[11:59] <gfish> i installed bit tornado
[11:59] <natex> could some one post or email thier evince.desktop and icons?
[11:59] <gfish> but i dont know where it is
[11:59] <Marlun> LjL: xserver-xorg being a "maybe" :)
[11:59] <nishiroyato> being that it came in a tar.bz2 file, i should aim to unpack it and then make it?
[11:59] <LjL> Marlun: step 3 only if the other two don't result in "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" working... but anyway, step 3 will not hurt
[11:59] <sethk> nishiroyato, by the way, it is 2.6.12-9.