[12:12] strusberg: please visit http://www.tecnocimiento.cl/ItLa/talk [12:13] strusberg: could you? [12:13] strusberg_: coudl you? [12:14] could [12:14] mhz: Checking... [12:14] hehe [12:14] 2 strusbergs around [12:14] strusberg: password freedom [12:14] small detail :D [12:14] it was either a stupid typo [12:14] or cache [12:15] my guess is typo === mhz needs to help his daughter in the shower [12:16] ;-) [12:16] :-) wrong password [12:17] :-( [12:17] freedom? [12:18] yep [12:18] hmmm === mhz login in back [12:19] hmm, weired [12:19] I am gonna change it [12:20] user: RicardoStrusberg [12:20] password: uno [12:20] please copy/paste [12:20] in case is typo === mhz crosses fingers so strusberg can log in [12:21] and please do change password once you login :) [12:22] strusberg: could you? [12:23] mhz: Not working yet. Maybe some strusberg for this irc is going first :-) [12:23] heheh [12:23] but I can do it successfully [12:24] 4 times, actually [12:24] strusberg: I guess you copied pasted [12:24] right? [12:24] mhz: Nop [12:24] could you c/p? [12:25] sure [12:25] thx [12:25] idem [12:25] hmmm [12:26] how about RicardoStrusberg and 'email me my account' ? [12:26] strusberg: you gotta provide your latinux email thou [12:26] try that [12:27] I tried and I have received this: [12:27] Somebody has requested to submit your account data to this email address. [12:27] If you lost your password, please use the data below and just enter the [12:27] password AS SHOWN into the wiki's password form field (use copy and paste [12:27] for that). [12:27] After successfully logging in, it is of course a good idea to set a new and known password. [12:27] You see? No password. [12:28] I just did it and I got Mail sent ok [12:28] (I only provided RicardoStrusberg and strusberg@latinux.org, then pressed email me button) [12:29] I got the e-mail but with no password inside. [12:29] impossible [12:29] there should be an url to visit [12:29] and login automatically so you can change your password [12:30] once loged in [12:30] Ok. I forward the e-mail to mhz@tec... [12:30] perfect [12:30] I am sorry to be causing you these troubles [12:30] 1st time i see this [12:30] Me too [12:31] you received it gmail? [12:31] not in latinux? [12:32] the email with the password was sent to latinux? [12:32] Uhmm [12:32] Let me check. === mhz doesnt have access to postfix logs so he cant check [12:34] checking... [12:35] mhz: Bingo!! [12:35] cool [12:35] maybe it was a typo or cahce [12:35] cache [12:35] but I doubt cache because I deleted it on the server side [12:36] that's why I suggested copy paste for UserName and password [12:36] col [12:36] cool [12:36] strusberg: so you have access to ACL pages for ItLaGroup [12:36] ? [12:36] FYI: Ok. I can view ../talk but no ItLaGroup [12:36] ofcourse [12:37] *Group pages are All: [12:37] so only Admins can view them [12:37] mhz: Ok. [12:37] the important thing is now you have full access to ItLa pages [12:38] and from monday on, you'll have access to revert as well [12:38] strusberg: i gotta take care of my daughter for a while and be back [12:38] mhz: What do you think about ItLA+Ebuntu EngineerCertification [12:39] what do you think my opinion is? [12:39] however, I'd say Ubuntu. (Edubuntu is just a flavour + very socially oriented) [12:41] Edubuntu is LTSP flavoured + some admin basic knowledge [12:41] hence, it is indeed a good idea to get training [12:41] but I doubt it is 'engeneer' qualified :) === b3ar [n=b3ar@adsl-ull-120-23.44-151.net24.it] has joined #edubuntu [12:42] unless, of course there are more issues that provide that extra that the word engeneer gives. === mhz is now known as mhz_family === mhz_family BBL === Orandic [n=asd@stjhnf0122w-142162057238.nl.aliant.net] has left #edubuntu [] [01:01] strusberg: if possible, wiki a personal page :) === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:05] arkan0x: ping [02:11] mhz_family, pong === mhz_family is now known as mhz_phone === mhz_phone is now known as mhz [02:18] re [02:32] arkan0x: quien va manana? [02:33] no sep mhz [02:33] hmm [02:34] y como sera coordinado quienes iran? [02:35] se supone ke los ke puedan van , osea por horario de oficina todos podrian ir despues de la 7 === arkan0x is away: wueando con ghemical 1.91.. xD! [02:36] XD === arkan0x is back (gone 00:00:13) === arkan0x is away: ghemical 1.91.. xD! [02:36] ya, y desde que hora deberia haber gente? === gxr [n=reis@242.99.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu [04:16] Burgundavia: ping [04:17] mhz, pong [04:17] hi there [04:17] I got a small prob. [04:17] ok [04:18] I have no clue how to edit the SVG files regarding the clarifying notes you stated [04:18] you don't know how to word it? [04:18] I mean, I can't seem to find the way to edit texts in the 'circle' [04:19] all horizontal texts, no prob. [04:19] ah [04:19] jsut a sec, let me try [04:19] okidoki [04:19] but [04:20] you should try the files in EdubuntuCd... redirecting [04:20] the new page does not have any svg [04:20] and yes, I decided to give a more universal name to it [04:21] esp. because juliux pointed that label was more suitable. === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:26] it is not text [04:26] it is has traced to shapes [04:26] no clue how to deal with it [04:27] did you create that svg? [04:27] nope [04:27] We usually work: I propose the design and Pablo does it [04:27] and re-propose [04:28] you need to get the original svgs from him [04:28] those are not original? [04:28] I think they have been prepared for printing [04:28] or something [04:28] ok, [04:29] I'll ask him [04:29] the good thing it that it was made 100% in Inkscape [04:29] (free as in freedom) :D [04:29] thx for checking [04:30] I think that is what it is === spacey [n=spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@210.5.88.142] has joined #edubuntu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === Orandic [n=asd@stjhnf0122w-142162057238.nl.aliant.net] has joined #edubuntu === DaBass [n=DaBass@24-176-113-235.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.38.43] has joined #edubuntu [05:25] is there a edubuntu distro on internet? [05:25] i don't mean iso [05:26] what do you mean? [05:26] "on the internet"> [05:26] ? [05:26] i maen mirror where i could poit to to do netinstall [05:27] does anybody know how to do netinstall [05:27] ? [05:29] burgundavia? [05:29] yep? [05:30] can you help with pcmcia? [05:30] might [05:30] doring boot i get pcmcia not pressent [05:30] i have ethernet card in pcmcia [05:31] it has worked untill i did apt-get dist-upgrade [05:32] it worked untill i did apt-get dist-upgrade [05:35] do you know what could be wrong? [05:35] sorry, nope [05:35] file a bug [05:41] do you know something about the netinstall [05:41] i have done it [05:41] how? [05:41] DaBass: how are you doing it? [05:42] well throug debian bootdisks [05:42] hmm [05:42] and debootstrap that did not work [05:42] have you tried netbooting but via HD? [05:43] then i did basic install of debian and did the apt-get dist-update [05:43] but now my pcmcia dont work [05:43] no [05:43] how [05:43] I mean: Editing grub to give options to boot from net (other box that contains CD or iso)? [05:43] no i am listenning [05:44] PCMCIA will not work for boot time, afaik [05:44] ok, let me get you the url i used [05:44] what OS do you have in current machine you wanna install? [05:44] cripled edubuntu [05:44] ;-) [05:44] hehehe [05:45] and what do you want there? [05:45] well i would like to make this notebook so kids could pay with it [05:45] it might not even work [05:45] *play [05:46] DaBass: so you have edubuntu on it already? [05:46] well kind of [05:46] only PCMCIA not working? [05:46] i did the install of debian and then did the distribution update [05:46] yep [05:46] uhhh [05:47] does that laptop boot from Cd/ [05:47] ? [05:47] and while booting it stops 4 times and sais something about dma timeout [05:47] no [05:47] it has no cdrom [05:47] ok, mine neither [05:47] while it was debian it worked ok [05:48] so from Debian you moved to edubuntu? [05:48] yep [05:48] oh, i see [05:49] and what procedure you followed to do the 'migration'? any wiki doc? [05:49] it was the process : i instaled simple debian and wanted to instal edubuntu over it by apt-get distr-update [05:49] wait [05:50] not exactly folowed but: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86962 [05:53] check this out while I read your url :) [05:53] http://wiki.edubuntu.org/Installation/FromAnotherDistro [05:54] i didnot read the one i gave you through, i got to the midle of second page where it sais it could be posible ;-) [05:55] but my friend told me, he did it, to look it up [05:57] I have not installed ubuntu or edubuntu from debian, but I did install editing Grub and making it boot from a server (TFTP) [05:59] but you said it won't take pcmcia right? [06:00] http://wiki.edubuntu.org/Installation/Netboot [06:00] i have tried the debootstrab from debian installation as it sais here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/WithFloppies?highlight=%28install%29 [06:01] right [06:01] I have never made it via PCMCIA because it is loades after soem steps [06:01] but it did not work [06:01] steps which I cant get to === \sh_away is now known as \sh [06:01] besides is there a mirror for edubuntu? [06:02] yup but edubunt does not provide netboot [06:02] only ubuntu does [06:02] neither kubuntu [06:02] what cant u get to? [06:02] to previous loading so PCMCIA boots ok [06:02] so I ended up using [06:03] TFTP booting [06:03] ok i missed the first sentence [06:04] why is there no mirror for edubuntu/kbuntu? [06:08] there is [06:08] but not for netboot [06:09] edubuntu and kubunt are just desktop settings flavors [06:09] so the mirror is ubuntu [06:10] well i am going try the debootstrap again [06:10] ok [06:11] well 2 days ago i knew almost nothing about linux install now i am getting better [06:11] ;-) [06:11] hehhe [06:11] congrats [06:11] keep up the good work [06:12] however, AFAIK, debootstrap is longer way than netbooting using th elast url [06:13] but you said it doesnt work with pcmcia [06:13] yup [06:13] ohhh [06:13] tight [06:14] right === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu [06:14] no other eth0 but PCMCIA? [06:14] is your HD partitioned? [06:15] IIRC, you could also install from within the HD if it is already partitioned [06:15] it has 1.5 giga [06:15] so, you simply edit your bootloader (grub) and... [06:15] oh [06:15] :D [06:15] ;-) [06:15] you can't install edubuntu on it [06:15] it maight not even work [06:16] it just good experience [06:16] you may try DamnSmallLinux [06:16] not whole but part at least [06:16] it is only 50 MB [06:16] and it's quite excellent [06:16] it has X? [06:16] yup! [06:17] it is excellent! [06:17] esp. for cases like yours [06:17] what about all those educational programs and games? [06:17] i am newbe to linux remeber [06:17] ;-) [06:18] plus, it also installs its Hardware database. So if you install it to a HD on a different pc, then you change the HD to pc #2 and it will automatically recognize new hardware [06:18] all those applications (depending on how much space you have left) can be manually installed [06:18] they are in debian and so is D.S.L [06:19] edubuntu is= Ubuntu + LTSP + set of edu applications [06:19] sounds more realistic [06:19] indeed [06:19] I promise yo wont regret it [06:19] ok [06:19] i am gonna try [06:20] and is rthere any chance you can take the HD out? [06:21] well might be [06:21] and coulkd you place it onto a diff laptop that boots from CD? [06:21] why i can't install dsl over net either? [06:21] too much hasle ;-) [06:21] you could [06:21] but remember [06:22] that in order to make PCMCIA work [06:22] some modules need to get loaded first [06:23] and that is not possible AFAIK, unless we're talking about an already installed OS [06:23] not a "about to install" one [06:23] ;-) [06:24] well the debian bootdisks load everithing to make pcmcia work so did slackware [06:24] yup [06:25] because they install from scratch [06:25] so will gentoo [06:25] ubuntu is not made for such purposes [06:25] not from scratch [06:26] so lets say i am in middle of debian instalation which is loaded in memory right? [06:26] depends [06:26] i can switch to console [06:26] yup [06:26] what can i doo from there? [06:26] hmmm very little [06:26] ;-) [06:26] it only a busy box [06:27] maybe from Gentoo [06:27] you'll be able to do much more [06:27] in that phase [06:27] Gentoo is a installable OS and a powerfull command line LiveCD [06:28] i need something that works out of floppy [06:29] debian from scratch [06:29] maybe even D.S.L [06:29] why not trying booting and installing from HD? [06:30] but how? [06:30] hmm, let me get ya an url [06:31] meantime: theory says, edit grub and tell it to boot from an iso in your HD partition (different from the one grub is) [06:33] well I had this http://wiki.edubuntu.org/Installation/HardDriveAndPcmcia [06:36] now, let me get the one from HD [06:38] ok [06:49] DaBass: I am falling asleep :) [06:49] sorry [06:50] I do remember in Debian.org there is a doc to install from HD [06:50] DaBass: I hope you get it working [06:50] good night === spacey [n=spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === b3ar [n=b3ar@adsl-ull-120-23.44-151.net24.it] has joined #edubuntu === mwest [n=mwest@tsl.uct.ac.za] has joined #edubuntu === apokryphos [n=apokryph@70.85.216.98] has joined #edubuntu === trondm_gone [i=trondm@developer.skolelinux.no] has joined #edubuntu === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port161-157.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu === crimsun [i=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #edubuntu === silvester [i=kappa@tauware.de] has joined #edubuntu === Grant_ [i=grant@85-210-9-136.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #edubuntu === \sh [n=nsh@ubuntu/member/backslash-sh] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@141.30.211.85] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.251.151] has joined #edubuntu === \sh is now known as \sh_away === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.251.151] has joined #edubuntu === konfuzed [n=KonfuzeD@H129.C72.B0.tor.eicat.ca] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === zakame_ [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === zakame_ is now known as zakame === \sh_away is now known as \sh === b3ar is now known as b3ar1n0 === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === redbass [n=root@ip-178-147.sn1.eutelia.it] has joined #edubuntu [11:05] hi [11:05] aninoe can help me? [11:05] i have problem vith ltsp [11:05] i install the last ver of edubuntu [11:05] and i start my terminals.... [11:06] but i try to write the login end pwd ... but the keyboard don't work... [11:06] what i can do? === Seveaz [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === weasl [n=weasl@bigstick.force9.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === Katsumoto [n=teraflop@bbned225-210-100.dsl.hccnet.nl] has joined #edubuntu === jark [n=irc@a80-126-110-57.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #edubuntu === jark [n=irc@a80-126-110-57.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@210.1.90.204] has joined #edubuntu === minholi [n=minholi@200.193.131.1] has joined #edubuntu === konfuzed [n=KonfuzeD@H129.C72.B0.tor.eicat.ca] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === ealden [n=ealden@219.90.94.138] has joined #edubuntu === b3ar1n0 [n=b3ar@151.56.10.163] has joined #edubuntu === magnon [n=co@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #edubuntu === dade [n=dade@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #edubuntu === \sh is now known as \sh_away === juliux [n=juliux@141.30.211.85] has joined #edubuntu [02:22] hello [02:22] can i ask a question here? [02:23] i got a problem with my edubuntu installation, it won't login after the ltsp-boot is there any way to troubleshoot this? === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-77-39-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === jark2 [n=irc@a80-126-110-57.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #edubuntu === dade [n=dade@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === juliux [n=juliux@141.30.211.85] has joined #edubuntu === jark2 [n=irc@a80-126-110-57.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #edubuntu === \sh_away is now known as \sh === jark2 [n=irc@a80-126-110-57.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #edubuntu [] === jark [n=irc@a80-126-110-57.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #edubuntu [02:50] hello, anyone here? [02:51] G'day jark, what's up ? [02:52] well i have a problem with the ltsp login in edubuntu [02:52] and i can't seem to find the problem [02:53] jark - can you log in from a client ? [02:54] no thats the problem :S i can login perfectly on the server itself, and the client boots via pxe and gets the graphic screen and all. but when i try to login it just goes back to the login screen [02:54] i tried booting it again a couple of times too [02:54] on the server run "sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys" then reboot the client and try again [02:55] ok i'll try === weasl [n=weasl@bigstick.force9.co.uk] has left #edubuntu [] [02:57] lol it works!!! thank you very much [03:01] your welcome jark === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:03] hi [03:03] Yagisan: lol, I read that as 'your(sic) welcome jerk' [03:03] I was going to remind you of our CoC ;) [03:04] hi mhz [03:04] Yagisan: hey, I forgot to ask...was the delivery process ok for your wife? [03:04] lol thats my first name [03:04] mhz: has marilize got back to you yet? [03:04] hi JaneW [03:04] nope [03:04] but Jane Silber did [03:04] mhz: yes I saw that [03:04] mhz: I spoke to marilize today and asked her to get on it, and she said she would... [03:05] I am crossing my fingers so I can get that ASAP :) [03:05] JaneW: thx for that support [03:05] JaneW: I have interesting news [03:05] hi mhz [03:05] I have been asked to talk about Ubuntu/Edubuntu and Free access to knowledge on a TV show (for teens) [03:06] juliux: hi Mr. almos community :D [03:06] juliux: hi Mr. almost community :D [03:06] mhz: wow, awesome! [03:06] mhz, do you mean me? [03:06] mhz: you must get the footage for us - if you can... [03:06] G'day mhz, wife came home today [03:06] JaneW: indeed. I am preparing material for that now [03:06] Yagisan: did she have another baby? [03:07] JaneW: YES!!! [03:07] JaneW: footage? [03:07] Yagisan: wow, congrats! [03:07] juliux: yup. Aren't we both waiting for tomorrow's meeting? [03:07] mhz, yes we do [03:07] Yagisan: to both of you. That makes 2 now right? [03:07] Yagisan: i am very happy for yu 2 [03:08] Yagisan: i am very happy for you 4, actually [03:08] Yagisan: boy or girl? [03:08] JaneW: Yep, baby number two, thanks === JaneW grins [03:08] JaneW: Boy [03:08] Yagisan: another freedom warrior [03:08] I love babies [03:08] cool! [03:08] JaneW: Didn't you see the topic ? [03:09] I love my babies over someone else's :D === Yagisan looks for the dancing Yagisan smilie :) [03:09] JaneW: what you mean by footage for us? [03:09] mhz: the TV covereage [03:10] Yagisan: oops no sorry ;) === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [03:10] ooh, I'll do my best [03:10] mhz: see photo of my boy from the friday 'garduation' http://www.flickr.com/photos/13916877@N00/65454879/ [03:10] ack 'Graduation' I meant [03:10] JaneW: in some cultures he'll be in process of becoming a wiser man :) [03:11] hello all [03:11] mhz, Yagisan JaneW what do you think lightscribe edubuntu cds or print on them? [03:11] JaneW: he looks happy. Now, you wont even notice when he asks to have his own flat :) [03:11] jsgotangco: hi there [03:12] how's things? [03:12] juliux: lightscribe? [03:12] juliux: IMHO, the quality is important but freedom is much more important :) [03:12] JaneW: it's a laser etching on the cd [03:12] mhz: hehe, yes it is a nice photo [03:12] laser etching [03:12] Yagisan: oic, I think they are usually silkscreened... [03:12] hehe [03:13] JaneW, http://www.lightscribe.com/use/winterholidays.aspx?id=226 there a exampls [03:13] ain't that too much [03:13] juliux: what's cheaper ? [03:13] hi jsgotangco, how's you new job? [03:13] JaneW: awesome, i'm allowed to play games at work tee hee [03:13]