[07:19] <\sh> if someone has time...please do a sudo apt-get install eric and tell me if it's crashing or not?
[09:04] <pef> hello
[09:17] <pef> Riddell: ping
[12:02] <Riddell> pef: hi
[12:04] <viviersf> Riddell, you dont by any chance know
[12:04] <viviersf> why grub fails to install on phoenix bios's ?
[12:10] <Riddell> viviersf: no idea, from a breezy install?
[12:10] <viviersf> no
[12:10] <viviersf> it works through the ubuntu installer
[12:10] <viviersf> im trying to find out why i cant do it manually
[12:10] <pef> Riddell: hello Jonathan
[12:11] <pef> Riddell: just a question: why do you make "sponsored upload" instead of leaving the changelog as is it ?
[12:11] <freeflying> Riddell: hi
[12:11] <Riddell> viviersf: does it work from a breezy install?
[12:11] <Riddell> hi freeflying 
[12:12] <viviersf> yes Riddell 
[12:12] <freeflying> Riddell: the skim also have the lintian warings like executable-not-elf-or-script
[12:12] <Riddell> pef: mostly so I get the e-mail.  otherwise the e-mail could go to someone else and I may not know what's happened to it or it could just disappear altogether and I won't know what's happened to it
[12:13] <freeflying> Riddell: and other problem are solved 
[12:13] <Riddell> freeflying: you needs to do chmod 644 on those files
[12:13] <freeflying> Riddell: do it in rules ?
[12:13] <pef> Riddell: ok, so it's just because of the confirmation email
[12:14] <Riddell> pef: yes
[12:14] <Riddell> freeflying: yes, in the install rule
[12:14] <Riddell> viviersf: sounds like it's the command you're running then not anything to do with the bios
[12:14] <freeflying> Riddell: and let scim depend on im-switch , it will make input method works well
[12:15] <viviersf> Riddell, using it like you should just doesnt work
[12:15] <viviersf> on these stupid machines
[12:15] <viviersf> and grub-install just sais : could not find device for /boot .....
[12:17] <Riddell> viviersf: sounds like you need to tell grub something more than what you are, but doesn't sound like an issue with the bios.  I've never got the hang of grub, always been a lilo person myself
[12:17] <viviersf> ya
[12:17] <viviersf> but you have to run lilo everytime 
[12:17] <viviersf> the kernel changes
[12:18] <Riddell> freeflying: skim should depend on scim presumably
[12:18] <freeflying> Riddell: skim must depend on scim
[12:18] <freeflying> it's just a front for scim in kde
[12:20] <Riddell> freeflying: I don't think your package does yet is all
[12:21] <Riddell> freeflying: ok, I have skim, scim and im-switch installed, how do I get this to do anything?
[12:21] <freeflying> Riddell: have you any IMengine
[12:23] <Riddell> freeflying: don't think so, what should I install?
[12:23] <freeflying> scim-chinese ,if you want to input chinese
[12:24] <freeflying> and scim-anthy is for japanese ,etc
[12:26] <freeflying> Riddell: the skim i package it now is very different to the one in debian-mentors now
[12:30] <Riddell> freeflying: hmm, when I set the config module to kconfig scim doesn't launch
[12:31] <Riddell> freeflying: make sure ours doesn't miss any features of the ones in debian-montors then
[12:31] <freeflying> Riddell: it need qt-immodule support maybe
[12:31] <freeflying> Riddell: the package in debian-mentors dosen't works well
[12:32] <Riddell> E: Couldn't find package qt-immodule
[12:32] <freeflying> Riddell: some file dosen't place to the right place accord to the spec in the source 
[12:33] <freeflying> Riddell: qt-immodule is a patch for qt
[12:33] <freeflying> Riddell: it's not in debian now
[12:34] <freeflying> Riddell: And qt4 have it as default
[12:34] <freeflying> Riddell: plz read this article http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25412&highlight=scim
[12:35] <freeflying> Riddell: Shall the package i'm working on be theeeeee inital 
[12:38] <Riddell> freeflying: yep
[12:39] <freeflying> acord to debian policy ,shall i upload this to debian-mentors
[12:40] <Riddell> freeflying: no, just make sure the person who has uploaded to debian-mentors knows about it
[12:42] <pef> Riddell: I've just wrote a procmail rule to send you a copy of katty mail too (accepted, refused)
[12:43] <Riddell> pef: :) ok  
[01:20] <marseillai> hi
[01:21] <marseillai> raphink: tu me files un coup de main? je vais avoir trop de mal a traduire ca en anglais! :s
[01:21] <raphink> haha ok
[01:22] <marseillai> so i've try to get some informations on a track with amarok
[01:22] <raphink> would it be possible to package musicbrainz with mp3 support for multiverse and have it as a replacement for the main musicbrainz so people can use amarok with musicbrainz without having to recompile the library?
[01:22] <marseillai> and it seems i need to recompile something to enable this!
[01:23] <marseillai> would it be possible to enable this with a package in multiverse?
[01:23] <Riddell> raphink: yes, some MOTU was going to do that, can't remember who now
[01:23] <raphink> oh nice :)
[01:23] <raphink> Riddell: as you're here, did you have a look at my packages ? :)
[01:24] <Riddell> raphink: might be worth asking around to see if whoever it was is still going to
[01:24] <raphink> I've got 6 of them waiting to be reviewed :)
[01:24] <Riddell> raphink: sure, what's the URLs
[01:24] <marseillai> oki thanks Riddell 
[01:24] <raphink> Riddell: konq-kim, konq-utf8, kio-sword and kenigma should be ready
[01:25] <raphink> for knmap I didn't get what you meant about the files left after running dpkg-buildpackage
[01:25] <raphink> and for kalcul I've emailed the upstream author about splitting it into a library package + a binary package
[01:26] <marseillai> Riddell: i've got a problem with hibernate on my laptop with Kubuntu! but it seems it works with ubuntu! where can i find the things to do in order to send info about this problem?
[01:26] <\sh> damn...I need to do the whole pythonqt stuff again grmpf
[01:30] <Riddell> \sh: why?
[01:30] <Riddell> marseillai: are you using klaptopdaemon?
[01:30] <Riddell> raphink: that'll give me something to do while I wait for KDE 3.5 to compile
[01:31] <raphink> hehe :D
[01:31] <marseillai> Riddell: yes
[01:31] <Riddell> "The newest version of KTorrent 1.1 has been out for quite awhile, but still isnt in the Dapper repo, could someone please put it in there"
[01:31] <raphink> Riddell: you're packaging 3.5 stable ? :D
[01:31] <\sh> Riddell: because keybuk uploaded a new sip or pyqt package...and something is wrong, cause eric3 is crashing 
[01:31] <Riddell> raphink: yes
[01:31] <marseillai> i've try with and without klaptopdaemon and with and without hibernate package
[01:31] <Riddell> \sh: might be worth waiting until 3.5 is in
[01:31] <raphink> Riddell: you need someone to package ktorrent?
[01:31] <Riddell> raphink: yes please :)
[01:31] <raphink> I'll do that this afternoon :)
[01:32] <Riddell> marseillai: klaptopdameon just calls pmi action hibernate
[01:32] <raphink> from scratch or is there a package already existing?
[01:32] <Riddell> marseillai: you may find pmi action suspend works better
[01:32] <Riddell> raphink: use existing package
[01:32] <raphink> ok
[01:32] <raphink> so I just uupdate as NMU ?
[01:32] <raphink> and check if it's fine
[01:32] <marseillai> Riddell: so why it works on gnome and not on kde ????
[01:33] <Riddell> marseillai: possibly gnome is calling pmi suspend
[01:33] <marseillai> oki
[01:33] <marseillai> i'll take a look with that
[01:33] <Riddell> marseillai: give it a shot "pmi action suspend" and if that's the case then I'll ponder how to fix klaptopdaemon
[01:33] <marseillai> thanks a lot Riddell and sorry for my poor english
[01:35] <Riddell> marseillai: c'est bon
[01:37] <raphink> Riddell: you want a breezy version of ktorrent? or dapper?
[01:37] <Riddell> raphink: dapper
[01:38] <raphink> so I chang ethe distro in changelog
[01:38] <Riddell> raphink: but the packaging should be just the same
[01:38] <Riddell> raphink: yes
[01:38] <raphink> ktorrent (1.1-0ubuntu1) dapper; urgency=low
[01:38] <raphink> right?
[01:38] <Riddell> yep
[01:38] <raphink> ok :)
[01:39] <raphink> shall I change the standards versio ntoo ?
[01:39] <raphink> since it's now 3.6.2
[01:39] <marseillai> Riddell: pmi action suspend make a suspend to ram wich works finely! but it's suspend to disk that i look for!
[01:40] <Riddell> marseillai: and pmi action hibernate?
[01:40] <Riddell> raphink: yes please
[01:40] <marseillai> when i use hibernate option with klaptopdaemon at wake the startup is normal
[01:40] <marseillai> i try
[01:40] <raphink> I coudl aswell switch it to cdbs 
[01:40] <raphink> if you want ;)
[01:41] <Riddell> raphink: only if there isn't a ktorrent package in debian
[01:42] <raphink> what do you mean Riddell ?
[01:42] <raphink> there's one in sid : http://packages.debian.org/unstable/kde/ktorrent
[01:42] <marseillai> no  pmi action hibernate does as habitually! but don't take care of this i think you have something else to do! i'll continue to look after this problem
[01:43] <Riddell> raphink: if debian has a korrent package we don't want to needlessly divert from debian, but I seem to remember that ktorrent is only in ubuntu so we can do what we want and cdbs is nice
[01:43] <Riddell> raphink: make sure we are in sync with debian then
[01:43] <raphink> Riddell: then what do I do ? do I use the debian package or do I uupdate the ubuntu one?
[01:43] <raphink> :s
[01:44] <Diablo-D3> Riddell: guess what!
[01:44] <Riddell> raphink: use the debian package, but check the debdiff between that and the current ubuntu one to see if there are ubuntu changes
[01:44] <Riddell> Diablo-D3: hmm?
[01:44] <Diablo-D3> that thing happened!
[01:44] <Diablo-D3> that thing with the c++ and stuff!
[01:44] <Riddell> raphink: actually debian already has 1.1 so we can just request a sync from them
[01:44] <Diablo-D3> Riddell: you can go fix arts now!
[01:45] <raphink> so that should be merged Riddell ?
[01:45] <Riddell> raphink: make sure the debian package works and we'll just request a sync
[01:45] <raphink> hmm ok
[01:45] <Riddell> Diablo-D3: where did you hear this?
[01:47] <Diablo-D3> Riddell: go apt-get update and stuff
[01:47] <Diablo-D3> theres new versions of gcc and shit
[01:48] <raphink> Riddell: the debian ktorrent won't install on either dapper or breezy
[01:48] <Riddell> Diablo-D3: I have gcc 4:4.0.2-1
[01:48] <raphink> there conflicts with libxrender
[01:48] <Riddell> raphink: have you tried compiling it?
[01:48] <raphink> nope Riddell 
[01:48] <Riddell> raphink: grab the source and compile
[01:48] <raphink> I'll try
[01:49] <Diablo-D3> 4.0.2-4ubuntu1 =(
[01:49] <raphink> hmm
[01:49] <raphink> I don't know where to get the source though
[01:50] <\sh> raphink: it's written in the copyright file
[01:50] <Riddell> raphink: see the bottom of http://packages.debian.org/unstable/kde/ktorrent
[01:50] <Riddell> raphink: three links for dsc, .diff and .orig
[01:50] <raphink> oh yes thanks :)
[01:51] <Riddell> raphink: do you have a dapper chroot or install?
[01:51] <Diablo-D3> Riddell: is 4.0.2-4ubuntu1 not the version we were waiting for?
[01:51] <raphink> Riddell: both, on a distant machine
[01:51] <Riddell> Diablo-D3: dist-upgrading now...
[01:51] <raphink> so it's fine
[01:52] <Diablo-D3> btw, Riddell, why does kubuntu-desktop depend on hp printer stuff?
[01:52] <Diablo-D3> most people dont use hp printers
[01:52] <raphink> Riddell: builing in dapper pbuilder now
[01:53] <\sh> Diablo-D3: which cheap printers are they using then?
[01:54] <Diablo-D3> \sh: older canons, of course.
[01:54] <\sh> Diablo-D3: where? in which country?
[01:54] <raphink> many use epson printers here
[01:54] <Diablo-D3> yeah, epsons are popular too
[01:54] <Diablo-D3> and then I have my big ass canon i9900
[01:54] <Diablo-D3> that can print on 13x19 human fle--I mean paper.
[01:57] <raphink> Riddell: sid package for ktorrent builds fine in dapper pbuilder and installs fine in dapper kubuntu. There's no lintian output. :)
[01:58] <\sh> raphink: a sync candidate :)
[01:58] <raphink> yep :)
[01:58] <raphink> now how do I specify it for sync?
[01:59] <raphink> I'll do that later ;)
[01:59] <raphink> going to eat now
[01:59] <raphink> ++
[02:03] <\sh> raphink: motu or main dev can request syncs...
[02:09] <Tm_T> Riddell: what you think, is it safe to upgrade dapper during next few days?
[02:11] <raphink> \sh: I'm no MOTU nor main dev so I'll leave that to Riddell ;)
[02:15] <pef> Riddell: http://dev.erodia.net/ubuntu/konversation/konversation_0.18-3ubuntu1.debdiff for konversation againt debian's version
[02:16] <pef> Riddell: I've checked newer version of ktorrent, and asked elmo  a sync
[02:18] <raphink> :)
[02:19] <Tm_T> pef: yu, I think we really need uptodate Ktorrent
[02:19] <Tm_T> pef: I'm using svn version of it, and improvenments are huge
[02:19] <pef> Tm_T: it's a sync, very simple :] 
[02:19] <pef> Tm_T: many improvements in svn version ?
[02:19] <pef> or in 1.1 ?
[02:20] <Tm_T> in svn
[02:20] <Tm_T> all the time
[02:20] <raphink> :)
[02:20] <Tm_T> and 1.1
[02:20] <Tm_T> too ofcourse :)
[02:20] <Tm_T> there's some apps I won't use stable version
[02:21] <pef> go to work !
[02:22] <Tm_T> amarok, kopete (because of dev I'm doing), koffice (hey, someone have to check if it compiles ;p), kdepim (actually 3.5 branch now) and ktorrent
[02:37] <viviersf> Riddell, ping
[02:45] <Riddell> viviersf: yo
[02:46] <viviersf> i was wondering 
[02:46] <viviersf> does kaffeine-gstreamer work fine by you
[02:46] <viviersf> cos it doesnt work here
[02:46] <Riddell> viviersf: it works, it's not as reliable as kaffeine-xine though
[02:46] <viviersf> k i use xine one then
[02:48] <marseillai> Riddell: i've try to look at my hibernate problem with your new information : pmi action hibernate but it always done the same things! the laptop seems to hibernate well( isay seems because i don't have screen during this time) then at reboot nothing!
[02:48] <Riddell> viviersf: yep, don't blame you.  kubuntu defaults to gstreamer because xine has legal worries and gstreamer is technially a nicer framework which we want to promote
[02:48] <Riddell> marseillai: hmm, so we need to find out what it is that ubuntu does
[02:49] <marseillai> oki
[02:49] <marseillai> i'll try ton find what command use ubuntu applet for hibernate
[02:50] <viviersf> Riddell, thing is 
[02:50] <viviersf> we have to give our clients something thats works all or most of the time
[02:50] <Riddell> viviersf: of course.  use xine
[02:51] <Riddell> viviersf: did you get that screensaver packaged?
[02:54] <raphink> Riddell: did you have the time to have a look at my packages ?
[02:54] <pef> Riddell: did you got my message about konversation ? I was disconnected before quiting
[02:55] <viviersf> viviersf, chmj packaged it anyways
[02:55] <Riddell> pef: don't think so
[02:55] <viviersf> * Riddell 
[02:55] <Riddell> raphink: not yet, keep reminding me though
[02:55] <raphink> ok
[02:55] <raphink> :)
[02:55] <Riddell> viviersf: got a URL to them?
[02:55] <freeflying> Riddell: do your scim work now ?
[02:56] <viviersf> nope ill ask chmj
[02:56] <Riddell> freeflying: nope.  do you know where the this qt patch is?
[02:56] <pef> Riddell: http://dev.erodia.net/ubuntu/konversation/konversation_0.18-3ubuntu1.debdiff
[02:56] <pef> against debian's version
[02:57] <Riddell> pef: great, thanks
[02:58] <freeflying> Riddell: http://freedesktop.org/~daisuke/
[02:59] <Riddell> freeflying: thanks
[03:00] <freeflying> Riddell: we have a release for chinese now , use a meta package to solve problems about chinese
[03:04] <viviersf> Riddell, so if gstreamer doesnt work, how will i play stuff with amarok ?
[03:04] <viviersf> like mp3
[03:04] <Riddell> viviersf: gstreamer works as good as anything with amarok
[03:05] <Riddell> viviersf: you just need the gstreamer mad plugin
[03:05] <Riddell> viviersf: bunch of other plugins in universe and multiverse too
[03:05] <viviersf> kk
[03:05] <apokryphos> viviersf: /msg ubotu mp3
[03:06] <viviersf> its kewl
[03:07] <freeflying> Riddell: will you patch the qt-immodule for qt
[03:09] <Riddell> freeflying: doing that just now
[03:09] <Riddell> patching qt for qt-immodule
[03:10] <freeflying> Riddell: great
[03:11] <viviersf> chmj, give Riddell link
[03:11] <freeflying> Riddell: package of skim still has warning message like this binary-without-manpage
[03:11] <Riddell> freeflying: I'm not too bothered about that but you can write a manpage if you want to do it properly
[03:12] <freeflying> Riddell:  I think no one will need man for skim ,
[03:13] <Riddell> don't bother then
[03:18] <freeflying> Riddell: I'm tired of uploadig to revu ,may I give directly
[03:23] <chmj> p.u.o/~charles/pkg-src/ 
[03:30] <\sh> freeflying: every app needs a man page...even if it's not a nice work...but it has to be done...imho 
[03:31] <freeflying> \sh: it have doc .and it is a grphical program 
[03:32] <Diablo-D3> hrm
[03:33] <Diablo-D3> hey guys
[03:33] <Diablo-D3> why isnt there a generic foss channel on this network?
[03:33] <\sh> freeflying: that doesn't matter...all kde apps have cli options 
[03:33] <\sh> freeflying: please read the new maintainers guide of debian...we want to have clean packages at least
[03:34] <freeflying> \sh: then I'll work on the man 
[04:35] <Diablo-D3> lol
[04:35] <Diablo-D3> that was hillarious
[04:35] <Diablo-D3> I insert a flash card
[04:36] <Diablo-D3> "A new medium has been detected, what do you want to do?" pops up
[04:36] <Diablo-D3> right after that, before Im even finished reading the dialog, konq pops up with the media loaded
[04:37] <jjesse> Diablo-D3: I sent an email in regards to that this weekend to the kubuntu-devel list
[04:37] <jjesse> looking it up in archive
[04:37] <Diablo-D3> hah
[04:38] <Diablo-D3> Im just mentioning it because I think its funny
[04:38] <jjesse> Diablo-D3: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2005-November/000566.html
[04:39] <Diablo-D3> btw
[04:39] <Diablo-D3> is there any way to get konq to read cr2 files?
[04:39] <Diablo-D3> (they're raw files from my camera)
[04:41] <Diablo-D3> yay
[04:41] <Diablo-D3> gimp's ufraw plugin can read it
[04:50] <_pef> Riddell: are you here ?
[05:49] <Riddell> raphink: I gave you ops on #kubuntu-it
[05:50] <Riddell> pef: yes
[06:47] <pef> Riddell: thanks for uploads !
[06:47] <Riddell> pef: thanks for packaging
[06:48] <pef> :)
[07:52] <\sh> who uploaded ktorrent?
[07:52] <\sh> or who was working on ktorrent?
[07:53] <pef> \sh: I asked elmo for a sync
[07:53] <\sh> pef: can u create a bug report on malone for the merge status and close it...please follow the rules on MOTUToMerge
[07:53] <\sh> pef: if not...we will have a chaos...thx
[07:55] <pef> \sh: done, sorry, was sure to done it
[07:55] <Riddell> \sh: there's a bug report on bugzilla
[07:55] <\sh> pef: I wanted to take it right now..when I saw the upload ... that's why we have this little lpbugs scripts
[07:56] <\sh> Riddell: well...it was on the universe list...which is now on http://revu.tauware.de/~sistpoty/MoM/index.py?state=new
[07:56] <\sh> -ECHAOS
[07:56] <\sh> bah
[07:56] <Riddell> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19885
[07:56] <\sh> Riddell: which is not a merge bug by mom :)
[07:57] <Riddell> so really the bugzilla one should be closed as UNIVERSE and a malone one opened
[07:57] <\sh> http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/ktorrent
[07:57] <pef> Riddell: I don't have enough permissions to close it on bugzilla
[07:57] <\sh> i'll do it now
[07:58] <\sh> pef: please open a report on malone...and if ktorrent is build please close it with fixed
[07:58] <\sh> pef: bzr branch http://tiber.tauware.de/~shermann/motu-tools
[07:58] <\sh> pef: there is a script...named lpbugs.py
[07:58] <\sh> please read the lpbugs.conf and set it up for your system it creates bugs on malone ... for the merges
[07:58] <pef> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ktorrent/+bug/4703
[07:59] <\sh> thx
[07:59] <\sh> bugzillas report is closed with universe and a link to the mom dir
[08:04] <jjesse> Riddell: just wanted to let you know that we probably be having another person join writing kubuntu docs :)
[08:05] <jjesse> Riddell: Ryan Walklin will be joining us :)
[08:05] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: might need to make changes to kde menu to use %F instead of  for non KDE apps that don't understand system:/ and media:/ urls.
[08:05] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: instead of  that is.
[08:06] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: argh apparently there's some replacement going on in konversation here :) lemme try \
[08:06] <LeeJunFan> percent U ?:)
[08:15] <Riddell> jjesse: woo, where did you findhim?
[08:18] <Riddell> LeeJunFan: how did you find this out?
[08:18] <jjesse> Riddell: from the kubuntu-devel list
[08:19] <jjesse> Riddell: no clue what his name on this channel is 
[08:19] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: well, when use the system menu->home folder then right click a picture and try to have gimp load it, gimp complains because of the system:/ thing in the url.
[08:20] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: changing the arg from %U to %F fixed that.
[08:31] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: also - any news on the sound preview in konqueror on rc1? When I enable it I still get konq to crash when I mouse over an icon.
[09:41] <\sh> Riddell: any clue what is ment by this:
[09:41] <\sh> /bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --mode=link --tag=CXX i486-linux-gnu-g++  -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -O2 -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -fvisibility=hidden -fvisibility-inlines-hidden -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRAN
[09:41] <\sh> SLATION    -o syndock  -no-undefined -L/usr/share/qt3/lib -L/usr/lib    syndock.la.o libkdeinit_syndock.la
[09:41] <\sh> syndock.la.o: In function `main':syndock.la.cpp:(.text+0xe): undefined reference to `kdemain'
[09:43] <\sh> meant even :)
[10:06] <Tm_T> hmm
[10:06] <Tm_T> new g++ and gcc
[10:06] <Tm_T> that will mean lots of lots of trouble?
[10:09] <\sh> yes
[10:10] <\sh> Tm_T: debtags is sefaulting when u dist-upgrade now
[10:10] <\sh> Riddell or someone else...did u ever see this construct? echo 'extern "C" int kdemain(int argc, char* argv[] );' > syndock.la.cpp; \
[10:31] <Tm_T> :p
[10:31] <Tm_T> well, I'm not going to do dist-upgrade with dapper :p
[10:32] <Tm_T> let's see what happens...
[10:39] <seth_k|lappy> yeah, debtags segfaulted for me too
[10:49] <Riddell> sebas: has the usability report for guidance happened?
[10:52] <Sime> Riddell: it has happened, but isn't on openusability yet. We've got copies though.
[10:53] <Tm_T> hmm, doing upgrade
[10:53] <Tm_T> nothing special happens
[10:57] <Tm_T> hmm
[10:57] <Tm_T> yes, debtags
[10:58] <Tm_T> :p
[11:06] <sebas> Riddell: Jep, we've walked through it already and will be doing the fixes over the next weeks.
[11:06] <sebas> Most of it will be finished before dapper for sure.
[11:06] <sebas> It's a lot of easy stuff, if you want to read the report, I can send it to you.
[11:08] <Riddell> sebas: that would be good
[11:09] <sebas> Ok. Preference for an emailaddress?
[11:11] <Sime> Riddell: BTW, do you know if the system settings prog will be fixed to that it can scroll on low-res screens? (640x480)
[11:12] <Sime> I install breezy on my other machine, but it can't detect the monitor, so X assumes a monitor that can only do 640x480. It runs but it is hard to use system settings.
[11:13] <Sime> sebas: displayconf needs to be usable at low-res too. (Just enough so that you can kick it into a higher resolution.)
[11:18] <Riddell> Sime: KDE policy is that is assumes 800x600
[11:18] <Riddell> but it would be better to just ensure the modules work at 640
[11:18] <Riddell> or the display one since that's the one that would matter in that case
[11:19] <Sime> System settings should use scrollbars if the window contents are too big. I think kcontrol does this already.
[11:20] <Sime> to get to displayconfig you have to go through system settings.... :-/
[11:22] <Riddell> yeah, I'll look into that
[11:26] <Sime> thanks
[11:26] <Sime> i'm doing some testing now, and making my own test .debs.
[11:40] <sebas> Sime: Jup, especially the layout on the preview page is pretty borked, although the new preview widget is really neat