=== zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-31-31.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rraphink [n=raphink@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-243-186.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GNULinuxer [n=ghoseb@unaffiliated/gnulinuxer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GNULinuxer [n=ghoseb@unaffiliated/gnulinuxer] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ciao.] === Kyral [n=Chris@hamlin-166-6433.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=Chris@hamlin-166-6433.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hunger [n=hunger@p54A60A7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:28] gbgh [01:36] I'll be happy to work on my packages tomorrow if anyone is willing to review them :D Good night ! === Tifa [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tifa [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asbin [n=asbin@aristote.asbin.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tifa [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Toots [n=Romain@APuteaux-152-1-55-69.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:25] hi all! [02:25] I have made several packages that are now in official debian [02:25] among them are some that would benefit from being in ubuntu too [02:26] Ask them to be sync'd :P [02:26] I am thinking of peercast the P2P broadcast servent [02:26] Kyral: who shall I ask for? [02:26] dunno [02:26] I'm just an Trainee [02:26] they need to be NEWed just as they once were in Debian [02:27] crimsun: ok [02:27] is there an ML to ask for that or else? [02:27] not really. [02:28] We just need to ask dholbach or sh to have them NEWed, which kamion/mdz/elmo can handle [02:28] did not understan sorry.. [02:28] are they people from ubuntu? [02:29] dholbach and sh are, yes. kamion, mdz, and elmo should be familiar from Debian. [02:29] well looks like it allready synced... [02:29] http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/sound/peercast [02:29] did not knew that :) [02:29] then the point is moot, move along. :) [02:30] all my packages are allready in debian... :) [02:30] in ubuntu i meant sorry.. [02:30] cool :) [02:30] yes, if they are in Sid at the beginning of the cycle, then they will be synced in automagically [02:31] great thing! [02:32] well thx for that! [02:32] see ya! [02:32] ++ [02:32] thank you :) === Toots [n=Romain@APuteaux-152-1-55-69.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Kopete] === cribeiro [n=cribeiro@201.19.158.119] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Tifa [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jimbob_ [n=jcape@c-67-175-222-235.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:16] hi === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:45] Unfrgiven, do you have that beginners packaging guide for the doc team? === hunger [n=hunger@p54A62F47.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:54] weren't LaserJock and I supposed to work ont hat? [03:56] Kyral: this is one that Unfrgiven has worked on & started after UDU in sydney [03:56] ah [03:58] hmmm, gnubiff fails to build, according to lamont's logs, waah! === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === spacey [n=spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@210.5.88.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:48] hmmm, just to make sure, but do I still have to make a debdiff for packages that can be synced? [04:50] what would there be to debdiff? [04:50] since a debdiff is just to show changes you made [04:53] ah, ok, like I said, just to make sure ;) [04:54] someone asked me the other day about it :) [04:57] bbl === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === magnon [n=co@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === magnon waves === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.38.43] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:20] hi magnon === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:21] hey :) [05:21] how's the laptop deal? [05:22] hey ajmitch long time no see [05:22] I don't have one at the moment [05:22] hey jsgotangco [05:23] mine broke down [05:23] I opened it one morning and the keyboard didn [05:23] 't work [05:23] fun fun [05:24] ouch [05:24] and since all the non-mac external keyboards I can find are ps/2 (the mac ones wont work), and apple almost guarantees that they WILL remove anything on my disk [05:24] I can't hand it in yet [05:24] a bunch of merges on it :( [05:24] woudln't be a problem if it had an sshd :P [05:25] no usb keyboards lying around? [05:25] just mac ones [05:25] I've been to 4-5 offices of people I know nearby, nothing :P [05:26] the mac ones weirdly enough send a control character before... anything [05:26] oh what the heck [05:26] snow" [05:26] :D === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:06] <\sh> moins [06:08] hi [06:11] how are you this morning, \sh === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:14] <\sh> fine..thx :) [06:15] <\sh> I'm trying to get up now...but right now, I'm reading something about dbus and python :) [06:15] heh === ajmitch just finished work for the day [06:18] <\sh> and how are u feeling being back at work after a long trip far away from your home? :) [06:19] I'd rather still be on that trip away from home ;) [06:19] spent today configuring a server [06:19] running sarge, but I put a dapper chroot on, for test purposes ;) [06:20] <\sh> hehe...btw did u hear anything about the stolen laptop? will there be a replacement or something? [06:20] I'll be replacing it [06:21] the server for work seems to be a bit faster for compiling than my home box [06:21] fairly basic, just a 3GHz P4, 2GB RAM, 2x80GB SATA in RAID-1 [06:22] looking at a laptop that has 1GB RAM, 100GB disk [06:23] <\sh> ajmitch: I thought it was the canonical laptop which was stolen...and there would be something like an insurance just for the case the laptop breaks or is stolen? [06:23] it was a canonical laptop, and their insurance didn't cover that, afaik [06:23] so my travel insurance (mostly) covers it [06:24] <\sh> oh ok :) [06:25] so I have the fun of trying to pay for a nice replacement ;) [06:25] which isn't so bad - I didn't pay for the canonical laptop in the first place [06:30] wow so you lost your laptop [06:33] stolen, along with a few other things [06:34] argghh what a cruel fate ubz has given [06:37] ajmitch: when i watch movies like star wars and movies where all the bad things happen to the good guys, it helps me realise who i am. [06:37] ajmitch: don't let the dark side get you down ;) [06:41] you're a tatoinne native? [06:41] heh === pietrus [n=pietro@dsl027-180-124.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch isn't down, I got over the stuff getting stolen after a day or two [06:44] had too much stuff to do at UBZ to worry about little things like that ;) [06:47] eek [06:47] what did you get stolen? [06:47] was jeffs stuff nicked at ubz too? 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[07:16] <\sh> hmmm [07:16] <\sh> can someone install eric and tell me if it's crashing? [07:17] <\sh> aehm it's kde stuff but i need to be sure [07:23] <\sh> rushing for office now....bbl === zerokarmaleft [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bigcx2 [n=ccole@oh-69-69-162-218.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:33] hey all [07:33] is it ok to file bugs for kubuntu in malone [07:33] universe bugs [07:36] sure [07:38] alright cool [07:38] ajmitch: have you built any packages under kubuntu [07:41] it seems that seahorse just wants to poop out under kde and not start [07:43] no, but kubuntu is just ubuntu with a different set of packages [07:43] yea i realize === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:44] hmm [07:44] ajmitch, seahorse dies under ubuntu as well [07:45] ok, why tell me? :) [07:45] just mentioning it [07:46] make sure it gets mentioned in malone [07:46] I will figure out what causes it and file the bug [07:55] morning folks === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:56] hey siretart, dholbach [07:56] how are you? [07:56] i'm fine, thanks how are you? [07:56] hi everybody [07:56] huhu dholbach [07:56] hi siretart [07:56] alive :) [07:56] I'm still a bit tired, its still 8am over here ;) [07:57] bah [07:57] have you slept yet ? === ajmitch was up just after 7am ;) === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:57] bah [07:57] afternoon lifeless [07:58] hola [07:59] hi freeflying! [07:59] freeflying: did you notice: you uploaded a binary package again, which got again ignored [07:59] siretart: hi [07:59] siretart: yeah [08:00] but I build it with -sa === viviersf [n=cain@rrba-146-96-186.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:00] freeflying: '-S -sa' is the key [08:00] you need to use -S for source-only magic [08:00] sure I've done this [08:00] and look for *_source.changes, the *_i386.changes is useless for us [08:01] & make sure you upload the source_changes ;) === ajmitch will stop now [08:01] seems that I'm always a few seconds slower than siretart [08:01] ajmitch: but you are completly right ;) [08:01] I upload them all [08:01] ajmitch: naah, thats the lag from nz to europe. You are still closer to freeflying ;) === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:02] hehe [08:03] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=887 how to get ride of the warning messages === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zkl|laptop [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:21] hi all [08:21] hi zakame [08:21] hey you two [08:23] hmmm, wouldn't it be a good idea to generalize what we have in motu-tools now so as to enable some like Debian's reportbug, for malone? [08:24] zakame: \sh is working on a gtk reportbug frontend, but If you want to spend some time on reportbug, go ahead! :) [08:25] siretart: that's great to hear! :) well, I'm just a Perl novice looking for a project, and motu-tools just seemed to be a nice opportunity to flex those llama muscles ;) [08:25] w00ho, first successfull build of aspectc++ :) === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:26] zakame: IIRC reportbug was written in perl [08:28] siretart: yes it is, but that doesn't work for malone though :( [08:28] zakame: that depends how do you want to interact with malone [08:29] zakame: Currently, there seems just to be an Emailinterface for that, the xmlrpc interface is AFAIK not public yet === maradong [n=bhentges@213.47.179.227] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:31] siretart: yes, that's what I've read so far :( === zakame_ [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@84.5.52.92] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:59] hi all [09:01] hi Gloubiboulga [09:02] hello zakame, how are you? [09:03] Gloubiboulga: just got a ping from a DD about my debian package, am now just rebuilding my chroot from scratch ;) how about you? === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:04] hello [09:05] hi pef [09:06] zakame, my chroot is ok, and so am I :) [09:06] hello pef [09:06] :) [09:06] why some motus uploads under their name (sponsored upload) and another upload under the packager name ? [09:07] hmm good question [09:07] when sponsoring, people should just sign the upload, but not change the changelog [09:08] but an explanation might be that they wanted to get a notification mail, when the guy they sponsored was not whitelisted yet [09:09] oh [09:11] and hello pef :) [09:12] could any MOTU have a look at malone #4644 & #4639 ? [09:12] dholbach: hello Daniel :) for me as example, I'm a motu but I don't have upload rights now because of my unsigned gpg key (will make sign it during december), why some motu upload my changes as sponsored and another under my name ? [09:13] pef: if you made a changelog entry, you should get it uploaded just like that [09:18] what's up with libglade2-dev and libgnome2-dev? gnubiff doesn't build at all :( [09:19] zakame: buildlog? [09:19] that's according to lamont's buildlog, but I can build gnubiff here in my dapper chroot with no prob. [09:22] then ask lamont/infinity to give it back, seems the buildd had a hiccup [09:24] morning \sh [09:24] hi \sh [09:24] ok, will do [09:25] <\sh> moins [09:30] <\sh> dholbach: could it be that there is something wrong with dh_fixperms or cdbs? because every gnome-games binary has this problem..and normally dh_fixperms should change the permissions... [09:31] i don't think it's cdbs/debhelper [09:31] but i didn't get this fixed yet :( === Gloubiboulga is now known as Gloubi_work === raphink [n=raphink@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=Josh@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:14] sri === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubi_work is now known as Gloubiboulga === lucas [n=lucas@alabama.imag.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:53] siretart: how can download the package from revu ftp [10:55] freeflying: it's http, you can just download it, no? [10:55] dholbach: I need the one in ftp [10:56] i don't quite follow [10:56] dholbach: it seems have no permission from ftp [10:56] <\sh> freeflying: no way to do it...ftp is only for upload [10:56] hi everybody [10:57] \sh: I need what in ftp's binaries [10:57] I have a little question about REVU ... [10:57] and as keybuk said: revu is a motu matter, no need to ask on both channels [10:57] asbin: fire away [10:57] :) [10:57] <\sh> freeflying: ftps binaries? [10:58] \sh: ftp://revu.tauware.de/incoming/binaries/ [10:58] I maintain the ushare package, last week I've sent the 0.9.2 version on REVU. Now I have the 0.9.3 version ... should I upload this new version ? What to do with the old ? [10:58] <\sh> freeflying: ftp is the only method to upload...if it's uploaded you can see it on the revu webpage...login into revu with your account and click on the package..there are the orig.tar.gz, diff.gz and .dsc files for your package [10:59] asbin: just upload it [10:59] ok [10:59] asbin: it will appear in the "asbin history" [10:59] asbin: you will be able to see the diffs between them [10:59] great [10:59] cool [10:59] brb [11:00] \sh: I uploaded them yestoday ,but they are not found from webpage [11:01] freeflying: again: revu ignores binaries, please upload a source package [11:01] siretart: actually, I uploaded them with source files [11:02] freeflying: you still did not upload a *_source.changes file, but a *_i386.changes file [11:02] done ;) [11:02] freeflying: this used to work a few weeks ago, but I disabled it, because it confused users [11:03] siretart: I can foind them in ftp now [11:03] sorry? [11:03] siretart: I can find them in ftp now [11:03] freeflying: oh, you are using a real ftp client to upload? ;) [11:04] siretart: no ,upload with dput [11:04] btw, my diff file is empty, as the debian directory is included in the tar ... is this a problem ? [11:04] freeflying: this is a temporary directory for internal use [11:04] <\sh> freeflying: did u upload a binary file? [11:04] freeflying: may I delete your binaries or do you need them? === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:04] siretart: for my mis-opertion ,I del all my work dir [11:05] so I need download them [11:05] I see. just a sek [11:05] freeflying: http://tiber.tauware.de/~siretart/skim/ [11:05] I moved them ouy [11:05] out [11:06] siretart: thanks [11:08] siretart: did you work on motu-tools during the week-end ? [11:08] lucas: uff, not much, no [11:08] ok === BockBilbo [n=Bock@eu85-84-43-70.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:11] hello === herzi [n=herzi@c151144.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:12] can someone tell me if https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates is the best place to suggest future packages? [11:15] I think so, from what is written there [11:19] how to get ride of this warning : executable-not-elf-or-script [11:22] freeflying, if the file is a script, use the #! sequence at the top of it [11:22] Gloubiboulga: it's just some .desktop files [11:24] the .desktop file are not executable [11:24] I think you have to change the file rights [11:26] Gloubiboulga:how to disable it in rules === Seveaz [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:27] What do you want to disable ? === zkl|laptop [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:27] Gloubiboulga: plz have a look on this http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=887 === hunger [n=hunger@p54A64387.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:33] BockBilbo: you don't need a .deb package there. you can simply suggest it, but if you want to package it on your own, you could read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU, that's where we upload (source) package for review === zakame [n=Josh@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [11:34] i see [11:34] thank dholbach [11:34] de rien === dredg [n=nsherida@80.169.137.162] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:34] hey dredg [11:35] morning dholbach [11:36] freeflying: may I delete http://tiber.tauware.de/~siretart/skim/ now? [11:37] siretart: ok [11:37] thanks [11:38] freeflying: do you need your eva biniaries as well or may I delete them, too? [11:38] siretart: plz del them all [11:39] done [11:39] siretart: may you have a look of the lintian warning of skim [11:39] not now, I'm currently in class [11:40] lecture, whatever [11:40] whenerer you have time === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zerokarmaleft [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:54] what is universe-bugs@tiber.tauware.de? [11:54] MOTUMerge [11:54] we're assigning all merge bugs to it [11:55] i see, why not use universe-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com? [11:56] that's only MOTU last I checked [11:56] ah right, some people might only want to get the mergers bugs [11:57] morning, btw :) [11:58] morning daniel :) === Madpilot [n=bburger@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:10] hi all === JanC_ [n=janc@dD5E086DA.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:11] do bugs in Universe apps get reported to buzilla.u.c or launchpad/malone? [12:11] malone [12:11] thanks - gLabels in 5.10 is still buggy - at least it's less buggy than in Hoary... [12:12] <\sh> Madpilot: we're working on dapper now :) did you check if glabels was merged or synced for dapper? [12:13] hm, i thought glabels made it into hoary-backports === zerokarmaleft [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:16] I haven't checked packages.u.c yet - doing so now [12:17] OK - Dapper has 2.1.1 - latest release, according to the glabels homepage [12:18] someone running dapper could have a look at this: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/glabels/+bug/1929/ === ryu [n=chris@p5487C6B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@210.1.90.204] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:38] hmm, I take it that we should probably kill off the b-ds on libreadline4-dev, then, too === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga is now known as Gloubi_busy === boston [n=bostonro@CPE-138-217-65-65.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [01:20] dholbach: because launchpad didn't allow that [01:20] i see [01:20] dholbach: universe-bugs@tiber.tauware.de just forwards to universe-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com [01:21] dholbach: and I'd rather not use that ugly hack, but I didn't see any other option that time [01:22] it's ok [01:22] and it adds the benefit i mentioned [01:24] dholbach: any news about the malone transistion? I heard that the staging is going to go live today [01:25] no, sorry [01:25] and if we switch, it will be BIG news :) [01:25] i mean B I G :) [01:26] :) [01:26] I can imagine [01:27] <\sh> a bigger new it would be, if someone tells us "You can use soyuz now!" [01:27] <\sh> news even === Gloubi_busy is now known as Gloubiboulga [01:40] could any MOTU have a look at a merge I've made whan he got time ? [01:41] malone #4639 === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487F64D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu === magnon [n=co@photogeeks/magnon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@121.69.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Laverne [n=Laverne@vmd.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chuck_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamessan|work [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:38] Uploading via ftp skim_1.4.3-0ubuntu2.dsc: Error '553 Could not create file.' during ftp transfer of skim_1.4.3-0ubuntu2.dsc [02:38] can somebody give me packaging advice: upstream release a 1.0pre1 version, which leads towards version 1.0. How can I handle that version 1.0pre gets lower than 1.0? [02:38] and I'd like to avoid epoch if possible === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-77-39-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:39] call it 0.99.x? [02:39] siretart: what was the previous version? [02:39] siretart: I can not upload the source now [02:39] jamessan|work: 0.9.2 [02:39] freeflying: why? [02:40] Amaranth: hmm. then it would become quite unobvious which version I'm actually packaging [02:40] siretart: I'd package it as 0.9.2+1.0pre1 but you could also take Amaranth's approach [02:40] I don't know . it give that there are already source here [02:40] freeflying: I delete the .dsc [02:40] freeflying: try again [02:41] siretart: thanks [02:41] iirc, the xorg stuff has done that (the .99) when packaging pre-releases [02:42] jamessan|work: but there are upstream as well [02:42] I'm not upstream === ompaul [n=ompaul@A-102-27.cust.iol.ie] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:42] ah, well then I'd take the +1.0pre1 approach [02:43] it's ugly, but it works [02:43] yeah [02:43] I use the +1.0pre1 approach, it works rather well [02:47] well, this way, I would need to rename the orig.tar.gz. [02:47] not that bad, but not nice either [02:49] well, you always have to rename it unless the upstream is nice and already names it package_version.orig.tar.gz [02:49] the version is just slightly different now [02:50] jepp. This I find quite ugly. but considering the other options, this seems to be best [02:54] hey reinhardt [02:54] huhu magnon! [02:55] did you get my message the other day? [02:56] oh, I fear not, what was it? [02:57] I did a bunch of merging stuff [02:57] and then my laptop broke down. :( [02:57] fuck :( [02:57] magnon: if you have a merge done, dont forget to attach the debdiff to the malone bug [02:57] and since apple guarantees that I won't have the same data on the disk when I get it back, or something like that, I have to find a clever way to back it up === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:02] wow, that's a kind of loosy guarantee :-P [03:02] they're not saying those words exactly, but that's what they mean :P === Nafallo is phrozen. [03:02] well, they will reimage it with a diagnosis system for testing [03:02] !tv sg1 [03:02] err [03:03] siretart: you think that, yeah? I doubt it :) [03:03] -EWIN [03:03] and then do a clean install of macos back, sure thing [03:03] oh [03:03] as in reimage. yes [03:03] magnon - you need a Philips head screwdriver, a 2.5" to 3.5" ide adapter, and a desktop pc to backup [03:03] Yagisan: warranty breaks if I open it that way, I believe === Nafallo hits the shower === zerokarmaleft [n=zerokarm@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] so you cannot replace your harddrive without loosing warranty? [03:04] weird [03:04] I'm not sure. I will check [03:04] magnon: Do you have a pc repair cert ? under my local law, I don't lose warranty if a qualified person opens the pc [03:04] at ibm, they told me to remove the hdd before sending it it, because they do respect my privacy :) [03:04] Yagisan: I'm pretty certain it says "Certified Apple Professional" ;) [03:05] magnon: "Certified Apple Professional" only is a breach of consumer law in Aus [03:06] it's like saying you lose your new car warranty if it isn't serviced by the dealer [03:07] Yagisan: you could probably say that you'd prefer it to be serviced by an authorised service-person [03:07] siretart: once dak supports it, you could use 1.0~pre1 [03:08] jamessan|work: ubuntu dak does support it, but not debian dak [03:08] jamessan|work: anyway, we will move to soyuz soon === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:12] Treenaks: I could, but I just like to point out it's a breach of the trade practices act, and if they want to be stubborn, I'll take my refund then === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bipolar [n=bipolar@146.145.26.90] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === penanshin [n=penanshi@bb219-74-229-27.singnet.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sedak [n=fred@c27fc601.adsl.oleane.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bipolar [n=bipolar@146.145.26.90] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-77-39-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:04] slomo_: around? === StrikeForce [n=marc@203-59-116-76.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@c138049.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _pef [n=loic@81.56.205.224] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eruin [n=eruin@proxy-gw.uib.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eruin_ [n=eruin@unaffiliated/eruin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StrikeForce [n=marc@203-59-116-76.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fut21 [n=chatzill@0x55510128.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:06] does ubuntu-plf have a irc-channel [05:06] not that I know of [05:07] How can i get in contact with these folks [05:07] what is ubuntu-plf ? [05:07] http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf#useful_links [05:08] sorry http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf [05:09] I can not find the e-mail add to "MirSPCM" [05:24] does anyone have up to date mysql packages? I need to use v5 for my new project. === StrikeForce [n=marc@203-59-116-76.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trappist [i=trappist@linuxkungfu.org] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=kyral@hamlin-166-9431.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:47] ow [05:48] anyone else get X taken down by the latest updates to Dapper? === Kyral sighs [05:53] On the upshot, I'm getting a crash course in Irssi [05:54] that's a pretty good upshot ;) [05:55] yah, but X is dead in the water [05:55] as is atd === ryu [n=chris@p5487F2F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral shrugs [05:59] At least I get to learn how to do things without X [06:06] how do I get it (irssi) to show a channel bar thing === oris_wolfbane [n=oris@82-38-121-195.cable.ubr01.hali.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:13] nm [06:16] Fut21: yes, they have an irc channel [06:17] Fut21: ask Mirno or Keyes, both are online from time to time === spayne [n=spayne@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spayne [n=spayne@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089F1CD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:22] <\sh> hey siretart [06:23] huhu \sh! [06:23] <\sh> moins ogra :) hab ihr schon schnee? [06:23] hey ogra, everyone [06:23] \sh: gestern hats bei uns geschneit ;) [06:23] [transl. we had snow yesterday] === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:28] hi [06:28] hey [06:29] <\sh> siretart: lucky you are :) here it's raining and windy and cold [06:30] <\sh> ogra: do you want to take part for the keysigning event on the 3rd, in Essen? === bur[n] er [n=burner@c-67-173-243-73.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:30] \sh, yup === siretart wants, too! :) [06:30] but no time for a trip to essen :( [06:31] <\sh> ogra: send me your details to sh@linux-server.org (long keyid, realname and fingerprint and list of UIDs :)) === thierry [n=thierry@modemcable058.142-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:36] dholbach: around? any progress on ubuntu-motu@lists.u.c? [06:37] siretart: i saw jdub for like 5 minutes today [06:37] where he didnt respond [06:37] \sh, will do [06:38] <\sh> ogra: nice :) [06:38] the easiest would be to get mailing lists for each launchpad team [06:38] (ie integrate this with launchpad) [06:39] ogra, mind if I upload your signed key to the Servers (Remember we exchanged keys at Ubuntu Love) [06:39] dholbach: okay. Just wanted to note that my mailman setup on tauware.de is operational (I created 2 lists only today) ;) [06:39] :) [06:39] i'll mail jeff === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:51] oh I love packages that are uploaded with.. [06:51] * This package is probably broken (it will for example probably not [06:51] build on dapper and it doesn't install cleanly on breezy). [06:52] ajmitch: and it FTBFS of course on dapper :) [06:52] ajmitch: seems to be a new trend: same for xserver-xorg :/ === maradong [n=bhentges@213.47.179.227] has joined #ubuntu-motu === moyogo [n=moyogo@117pc104.ucu-vb.uu.nl] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [06:56] a package that I have on review has just had a new upstream release. I only need 1 more vote to get the old one in. Should I add the new version now or wait until I get the other vote? [06:57] either way you'll need 2 more votes [06:59] ajmitch: good point === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === keyes [n=keyes@lns-bzn-25-82-251-214-127.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:03] ajmitch: wait, if I upload a new version to REVU does that reset the vote count? [07:04] yes [07:04] so you upload the new upstream, get 2 votes on that [07:04] ajmitch: ok, got it [07:08] does anyone knows if we should send a patch to malone (and open a bug) when we want to fix a issue there https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniversePackageWithoutDesktopFile [07:08] thierry: it would be good [07:08] k === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-245-251.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@d83-177-197-188.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-86-124.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:17] at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniversePackageWithoutDesktopFile , could someone tell me how to make sure the binary* target installs the .desktop file into /usr/share/applications/ and its corresponding icon file (xpm/png/etc.) into /usr/share/pixmaps/ . Additionally if cdbs's gnome.mk is not used, you need to call dh_desktop. [07:18] where do I call dh_desktop first of all [07:18] and how do I make sure bla bla bla === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-65-26-222-190.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === at1as [n=at1as@24-247-15-243.static.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch waits very patiently for the upload.. [07:21] 128Kbps up is painful [07:24] ajmitch: have you had time to make your motu scripts publicly available ? [07:24] have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUTools ? [07:25]