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Red-Sox_homeworkhi12:04
Red-Sox_homeworkvarsendagger ?12:04
varsendaggerhey i want to install something that depends on QT 3 what do i need to install?12:05
varsendaggerRed-Sox_homework, yeah, hopefully someone will know12:05
Red-Sox_homeworklets hope, varsendagger 12:05
Red-Sox_homeworkvarsendagger, i appreciate your help!12:05
varsendaggeri'll go ask in ubuntu too12:05
Red-Sox_homeworkokay12:05
LjLvarsendagger: qt3-dev-tools12:06
LjLvarsendagger: or just kdelibs4-devb12:06
naliothRed-Sox_homework: help him out12:06
Red-Sox_homeworknalioth, with what? he is helping me?12:06
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Red-Sox_homeworknalioth, what are you suggesting?12:06
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naliothvarsendagger: asked about qt3 dev libs, aren't you working with qt3 dev libs?12:07
varsendaggernalioth, thnks12:08
Red-Sox_homeworknalioth, yes...he is helping me12:08
Red-Sox_homeworknalioth, i couldnt figure it out12:08
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naliothRed-Sox_homework: you installed all those libs the error msg told you about?12:09
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Red-Sox_homeworknalioth, still more error messages12:09
Red-Sox_homeworknalioth, but iv got it now ;)12:09
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naliothRed-Sox_homework: how many channels are you in? i thought i was in #kubuntu-offtopic talking to you12:10
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_johnomg can someone tell me why i cant use adept to update tk?12:25
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nalioth_john: you are using the latest tk version available?12:27
LjLheh12:27
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_johnuhm well i need tk devel 12:27
WXcan someone tell me how to install a ktx serial port external modem please?12:28
_johnit just says error commiting12:28
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kkathmanhi hussam :)12:31
kkathmanhey regeya :)12:31
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_johnso wtf @ tk devel packages?12:32
nalioth_john: libtk*-dev12:33
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Carstenpi cant install kubuntu from live dvd, he cant "bind" the cdrom? any idead?12:35
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chaoticgeekthe dvd that you can d/l?12:37
chaoticgeekif so you can install it from that, at the boot up screen for kubntu type 'install'12:37
FreckledPi'm having troubles with the multiverse dvdrip package.  I have transcode installed, but when dvdrip starts, it complaines that it can't find transcode (or imagemagick).  I looked through the preferences and I don't see a place to specify path to transcode.  Someone give me a hand??12:37
arthurbHey, do you know where (if) I can find xorg 6.9/7 RC2 packages  ?12:38
Carstenpcorrect, i downloaded the dvd via bittorrent from the offical site, and i tried it on my laptop (this one) in live version, it worked. now i wanted to install from it on a different system12:38
Carstenpi typed install, chaoticgeek12:38
chaoticgeekthen it should take you into the install process12:38
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chaoticgeekwhen you first boot up nad you get the screen that says Kubuntu and is right after you restarted the system12:39
Carstenpchaoticgeek, yeah it did, i could select a language, and a keyboard, but then he couldnt find/mount/sth. the cd-rom12:39
chaoticgeekoh12:39
Carstenpi have perhaps a problematic mainboard? asus p4gd1 (1 SATA HD, and 1 PATA Pioneer DVD-ROM)12:40
chaoticgeekwell then I cant help you there, sounds like something is worng w/ kununtu and your cd/dvd drive12:41
Carstenpperhaps there is some secret boot param to get the ite raid controller activated?12:41
Carstenplike install -magic_raid_awesomeness ?12:42
Carstenpi try to live cd the dvd12:42
kkathmanCarstenp: do you have an AMD chip?12:43
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kkathmanCarstenp:  If so, you might want to check this thread for info:  http://www.planetamd64.com/lofiversion/index.php/t10990.html12:44
Carstenpno, intel p4 2,5 Ghz (socket 478 on an asus p4gd1 with intel sth. chipset 915 i think)12:44
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Carstenphmm in live modus... Try again to mount the cdrom? i will take a look in the log console12:47
Carstenphmmm cdrom-detect: CDROM-mount failed again (error=1): device=/dev/cdroms/cdrom012:48
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guptaHI!(again) , well i installed an app to see a graphical rrepresentation of disk usage.12:49
guptaBut now i have forgotten the name of the app.12:49
naliothgupta: xdiskusage?12:50
kkathmangupta:  would be nice to know :)12:50
naliothgupta: discus?12:50
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guptaDon't remember exactly. But thanks i'll try both :)12:50
guptaAny way to list apps i installed?12:51
LjLgupta: dpkg -l | grep ii12:51
guptaThanks LjL12:52
chaoticgeekso... hows it going ppl?12:52
LjLgupta: or dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall12:52
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guptaLjL, that lists many packages. I just want something like gnome's run command. It had a list of apps installed. But i am pretty sure its xdiskusaage12:54
LjLgupta: i'm not sure, i don't think there is a way to list "apps installed" in the sense I think you mean, as there's not way to distinguish between what you call "apps" and what you'd call "libraries" or "accessory packages"12:55
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CarstenpHA ! HEUREKA !01:00
Carstenpif anyone else has this problem01:01
Carstenpmy advice : go to your bios , select your ide controler and change the value from "i forgot" enhanced to compatibly01:01
Carstenperr compatible.01:01
Carstenpin compatible mode, installation works. it seems more.... errr compatible.01:02
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Carstenpcrap, forget what i said. the live cd only works when i change my mainboard ide controller from sata to pata. but when i do that, i dont have a hd anymore :(01:07
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Carstenpbut new error message now. "no common cd-rom drive was detected", so the deal is the following, i could install kubuntu if i disable my harddisc. there must be some magic parameter for install01:09
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guptakkathman: its xdiskusage- prretty cool. Thanks nalioth 01:11
naliothgupta: try 'discus', it's a quick and dirty graphical console app for disk usage01:12
guptaInnstalling now01:13
guptaSry, its crappy keyborad01:13
crashproneAnyone know how to setup MPlayer or other media player I guess to run movies as a plugin in Konqueror browser?01:14
crashproneThe Kaffeine complains about 'alsasink' and then segfaults or whatever.01:15
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Hobbseehey nio01:22
Hobbseehey Niomi 01:22
naliothNiomi: howzit goin?01:23
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Hobbseecrashprone: i know how to in firefox, but not konq, unfortunately01:23
crashproneYeah, gotcha.  Working on the idea of trying VLC instead, haven't finished yet.01:23
crashproneHm.. sites describing how to install it just say it'll work straight-up, but it never finds the plugins when I tell it to check.01:26
chaoticgeekhello all01:28
crashpronehello you01:29
chaoticgeekubotu: hello01:29
ubotuhola01:29
chaoticgeekhello me01:29
Hobbseehey chaoticgeek 01:30
chaoticgeekhows it going?01:31
chaoticgeekI should read01:32
chaoticgeekok, well I'm off to read 01:33
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Tm_Tfiu01:42
Tm_Thussam: hullo01:42
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dark_suichi01:46
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JValdezjranyone having problems with amarok- the packaged version?01:51
HobbseeJValdezjr: what problems?01:51
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JValdezjripod support, crashing when tryign to play mp3s...01:53
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_dougHi, sorry if im really new but can anyone tell me how to use the apt-get command?  like gentoo's emerge command01:54
Hobbsee!apt-get01:55
ubotufrom memory, apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/01:55
_dougthanks a lot guys ^_^01:55
_dougjust trying to convert from gentoo01:55
Hobbseeno problems01:55
Hobbsee:)01:55
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_dougMmm another stupid question >.< how do i use super user?  i dont know what the password is, i dont remember entering one....01:57
Hobbsee!sudo01:57
ubotuwell, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:57
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Hobbseecheck that page01:57
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_dougHmm but its not accepting my user password...02:00
naliothubotu: tell _doug about root02:00
bimberi_doug: are you trying to use "su"?02:00
_dougyes...02:00
bimberi_doug: if so, use "sudo -i" instead02:01
nalioth_doug: please dont do that02:01
nalioth_doug: read what ubotu sent you, please02:01
bimberi_doug: ... with your own password02:01
neoncodeI'm wondering is there any way to play WMV files on linux? This has been buging me for a while now...02:01
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_dougOK.  thanks.02:01
naliothneoncode: w32codecs supports some wmv formats in general02:02
neoncodenalioth: Where can I get the codecs from, and what programs will they work with? like Kaffine?02:02
Hobbsee!w32codecs02:02
ubotuit has been said that w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/02:02
neoncodeWhy are they called "evil"?02:03
naliothubotu: tell neoncode about w32codecs02:03
neoncodenalioth: Ok so I download  w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i286.deb?02:05
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Hobbseeneoncode: yes02:06
naliothneoncode: yes and then use "sudo dpkg -i w32<tab>" from a konsole open to where you d/l them too02:06
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neoncodenalioth and Hobbsee: Thanks, I asked ubotu about .deb files.02:06
_dougThanks guys i got the sudo working great ;) apt-get too ^_^ 02:07
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neoncodenalioth: Once it's installed how do use it?02:07
naliothneoncode: open your favorite media player and put something evil in it02:07
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neoncodenalioth: Oh I get it! Evil because it's a microsoft format, right?02:08
naliothneoncode: you got it!02:09
neoncodenalioth: ^-^02:09
Hobbseewell, not an open one that everyone can use :P02:09
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neoncodeAhh it finished downloading, wait while i switch virtual desktops to install this. I have a konsole on the other one...02:09
naliothneoncode: no no. use any terminal02:10
_dougSome other question ive got: does anyone know a website comprable to gentoo's www.gentoo-portage.com which lists all the stuff you can get from apt-get?02:10
Hobbseepackages.ubuntu.com02:10
naliothneoncode: this is #kubuntu so i default to saying "konsole", but any terminal will work02:10
Hobbseeor adept, which is already on yoru computer02:10
Hobbseeor synaptic02:10
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_dougfantastic... what is this 'breezy' 'warty' 'hoary' and whatnot mean.. .>.<02:11
neoncodenalioth: I just use Konsole, nothing wrong with it?02:11
naliothneoncode: it's fine. any terminal emulator is fine02:11
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neoncodeUhh... I got "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process"02:13
bimberi_doug: they are releases of ubuntu, check what you have with "lsb_release -a" in a terminal02:13
naliothneoncode: close adept/kynaptic/synaptic, etc02:13
naliothneoncode: only one apt process can run at a time02:14
_dougVery cool.  ^_^ breezy badger release :D i think i like ubuntu :D02:14
neoncodenalioth: Oh yes, I forgot I have synaptic open somewhare02:14
neoncodenalioth: Ahh, lovley02:14
neoncodenalioth: Nope, kaffine still won't play it properly. But doesn't kaffine use Gstreamer?02:15
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naliothneoncode: you can choose in it's prefs what you want it to use02:16
neoncodenalioth: ...Where?02:17
naliothneoncode: the kaffeine prefs02:18
naliothor is it amarok i'm thinking of02:18
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neoncodenalioth: I dunno, hold on02:18
guptaAnybody using docker with success? For me it just opens a 'console like' window with minimize and close buttons02:19
neoncodenalioth: Nope... Under the "engine" settings in amaorK there is only gstreamer...02:20
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richardDapper Drake a bit disappointment still. .. . 02:21
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Hobbseerichard: what makes you say that?  02:22
Hobbseelol ok then02:22
naliothneoncode: i suspect if you open a wmv, it will work (if it's a supported wmv)02:23
neoncodeHow do I know if it's supported? The ones I want to play will not play.02:24
_dougHi, im trying to get an application from apt-get.. i found it on the website: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/xcompmgr.  However, i cant figure out how to apt-get it.. i tried apt-get intstall xcompmgr and it didnt work...02:25
bimberi_doug: you probably need to add the universe repository ...02:27
bimberiubotu tell _doug about repos02:27
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neoncodeWhat about this "MPlayer" is that nay good?02:28
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_dougi think VLC is a good open source video player...02:28
neoncode_doug: I don't evan know what that is02:28
_doughttp://www.videolan.org/vlc/02:29
nalioth_doug: it's in the repos02:29
_dougi dont know what repos is :(02:29
guptaTry this _doug http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#toc02:30
neoncodeWill a red hat RPM work with kubuntu?02:30
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guptaneoncode: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#swmgmt02:31
naliothubotu: tell _doug about repos02:33
naliothgupta: what is that?02:33
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naliothneoncode: most everything you need is in the repositories02:33
naliothubotu: tell neoncode bout repos02:33
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naliothubotu: tell neoncode about repos02:34
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neoncodeShould I enable the multiverse ones? I have universe ones.02:34
Hobbseeyeah, them too02:34
naliothneoncode: yes multiverse02:35
neoncodehow do I turn them on?02:35
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neoncodeAnd what's with the words with a "!" in front of them?02:36
naliothubotu: tell neoncode about yourself02:37
neoncodeHmm, How can I get "MPlayer" it's not on any of the reposotorys02:41
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bimberineoncode: it's in the multiverse repository02:42
neoncodebimberi: I enabled the multiverse useing adept but a search for "mplayer" turned up nothing it boath adept and synaptic02:43
bimberineoncode: put the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:44
naliothubotu: tell neoncode about mplayer02:45
naliothbimberi: nobody ever gets it, mplayer is NOT in the repos. mplayer-586 IS in the repos02:45
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neoncodebimberi: Ohhh, for gods... I forgot to apply the changes. hold on lemme try.02:46
naliothbimberi: neoncode's sources is ok02:46
bimberinalioth: yeah i know, i know :P, although a search in a package manager should still find them02:46
naliothneoncode: have a pebkac error?02:46
bimberi... unless the repos haen't been updated :P02:47
bimberi*haven't02:47
naliothbimberi: everyone has this problem02:48
neoncodenalioth:  pabkac?02:48
neoncodepebkac rather.02:48
neoncodeOhh, I asked ubotu.02:48
bimberinalioth: indeed02:48
nalioththat bot has entirely too much information02:49
bimberi!hug02:49
ubotuubotu gives bimberi a hug.  There, there, is that better?02:49
bimberi:P02:49
neoncode!hug02:49
neoncodeCool...ish...02:50
bimberiubotu can't hug very frequently - in the channel anyway :)02:50
ubotubimberi: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:50
neoncode!hug02:50
ubotuubotu gives neoncode a hug.  There, there, is that better?02:50
neoncodeAhh lovley02:50
neoncodeNice and warm, witch is a change...02:51
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neoncodeW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems02:53
neoncodeuh-oh, apt-get gave a tone of errors and said that02:53
neoncodeSo I ran "sudo apt-get update", naturaly.02:54
neoncodeapt-get carn't find "mplayer-586"02:56
naliothneoncode: now can you paste your sources.list to a pastebin?02:57
nalioth!paste02:57
ubotuit has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text02:57
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naliothrobotgeek: howdy02:57
robotgeeknalioth: doing good. been in front of the computer for about 13 hours02:58
naliothrobotgeek: you can get a safer sun tan outside02:58
robotgeeknalioth: heh, was trying to finish my univ work02:59
neoncodenalioth: Where is my soruces list?02:59
naliothneoncode: /etc/apt/sources.list03:00
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neoncodenalioth: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/484603:01
bimberineoncode: add " multiverse" to the end of lines 19, 20, 35, 3603:06
neoncodeok done03:07
bimberineoncode: update and try again03:08
neoncodebimberi: I ran "sudo apt-get update" right?03:08
naliothcorrect03:08
neoncodeand then "sudo apt-get install mplayer-586" and YAY! It works!03:08
bimberienjoy! :)03:09
neoncodewho came up with this whole "universe" and "multiverse" thing anyway?03:09
naliothneoncode: same people that came up with 'colony' and 'flight' as code names for pre-release test builds03:10
neoncodenalioth: I did not know they were called that... Oh well, universe and multiverse are cool names03:11
neoncodebimberi & nalioth: yay! they work! it will play the wmv files! w00t!03:12
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neoncodeaway going to get a sandwich03:13
neoncodewiat03:13
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beef_sprocketso the keyboard on my laptop is totally frozen when in X03:35
beef_sprocketI've checked this thread but to no avail: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19432&highlight=keyboard+lock03:36
jsubl2bummer must make it hard to type.03:36
jsubl2what kink of laptop03:36
beef_sprocketasus m6bne03:36
beef_sprocketjust happened today for the first time coming out of hibernate03:36
jsubl2some of the laptops have a bios setting where you can disable legacy usb stuff03:36
beef_sprocketthought rebooting would help, didn't03:36
beef_sprocketI haven't touched the bios for a few months03:37
beef_sprocketthinking it could be an upgraded package03:37
jsubl2it is the onlything i can think of03:37
jsubl2breezy right.03:37
beef_sprocketbut last time I upgraded was a few days ago to 3.503:37
beef_sprocketindeed03:37
jsubl2oh and it worked before the update03:37
beef_sprocketand after03:38
beef_sprocketthat was a few days and reboots ago03:38
jsubl2so hib.. crashed you heh.03:38
beef_sprocketnope, I hibernated earlier today without a problem03:38
jsubl2sorry goto go.  no idea how to help you03:39
beef_sprocketno worrie03:39
beef_sprocketthanks though03:39
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joserafaelhello from caracas - venezuela03:45
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neoncodeHey I have firefox 1.5 RC3 installed in /opt/firefox and i'm trying to creat symbolic links in the folder "/opt/firefox/plugins" to all the files in "/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins". But the command "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/*" Won't work....03:45
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neoncodeOh wait... it works now03:46
neoncode"sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/* ."03:46
arthurbHum, after I booted all my device icons disappeared from the deskop... I tried setting them back but they won't show up03:48
naliothneoncode: you should ask first.03:48
neoncodenalioth: What?03:49
naliothneoncode: all gecko browsers parse /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins (so all plugins for mozilla, galeon, kazehakase, firefox, and epiphany should go into that directory)03:49
naliothneoncode: keeps you from symlinking 5 times, or having 5 sets of plugins03:50
kkathmankaze-whatski?03:50
nalioth!info kazehakase03:50
ubotukazehakase: (gecko based web browser using GTK), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 0.2.8-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 614 kB, Installed size: 1656 kB03:50
kkathmanjk03:50
neoncodenalioth: Oooo... well that's me. a newbie..03:50
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neoncodeOh does libflash-mozplugin.so have a ".xpt" file?03:52
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takmadeusgreetings03:52
takmadeussorry for being so direct, but I have a question03:52
takmadeusare the repositories down?.... no matter what I do I cannot get anything from aptitude or synaptic03:53
neoncodetakmadeus: sudo apt-get update works fine for me...03:54
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takmadeusneoncode: hmmmmm mine is stuck at "waiting for headers (30%)"03:55
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neoncodetakmadeus: I take it your IRC chat is on the linux computer?03:57
takmadeusneoncode: yes03:58
neoncodeHmmm sources.list problem prehaps? anyone have any ideas?03:58
fatejudgercan anyone use the Bank of America website with Konq?03:58
fatejudgerit says I don't have 128 bit encryption03:58
kkathmanfatejudger: no I cannot either03:59
naliothfatejudger: i'm not sure what to tell you. mozilla-psm covers all the gecko browsers in the security dept03:59
kkathmanfatejudger: firefox and opera both work however04:00
takmadeusneoncode: hmmm nope, no sources.list problem04:00
takmadeusI could actually get some files today afternoon04:00
neoncodetakmadeus: Uhhh, I have no idea, i'm pretty much a newb ya see. Oh well i'm yawing. I need to be up in 5 hours. and my feet are numb from the cold. i'm going to bed...04:01
takmadeusneoncode: okay, thanks man04:02
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chaoticgeekarg04:03
chaoticgeekI screwed up kubuntu04:03
neoncodetakmadeus: I dunno what for but ok, ask some of the others around here. They might know. If all else fails sit down and poke it with a stick...04:03
chaoticgeekso I reinstalled04:03
chaoticgeekbut it was my fault, at least under linux I have to screw it up unlike windows04:06
takmadeusdoes anyone here has any idea on what's hapenning to me?04:07
takmadeusgot an update: "W: failed to retrieve http://co.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/......, temporary failure when resolving "co.archive.ubuntu.com""04:08
naliothtakmadeus: are you familiar with the 'hosts' file?04:09
takmadeusnalioth: nope04:10
naliothtakmadeus: open a konsole, please04:11
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takmadeusnalioth: done04:12
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naliothtakmadeus: now type "sudo nano /etc/hosts" <enter>04:12
takmadeusnalioth: done04:13
naliothtakmadeus: now use your arrow keys to go to the bottom of the document04:14
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takmadeusnalioth: done04:14
realjimshadyhi, i'm running kubuntu breezy and running ifconfig as well as gui net-tools always shows my eth0 interface's zeroconf address (169...) instead of the 192.168... LAN address also bound to that interface.  ifconfig -a doesn't work either.  short of disabling zeroconf altogether, any way to display all addresses?  thanks04:14
naliothtakmadeus: type    #my local ubuntu archive  <enter>04:15
takmadeusnalioth: done04:15
naliothtakmadeus: then next line put "co.archive.ubuntu.com    82.211.81.151     82.211.81.182"    <<<< all on one line04:16
takmadeusnalioth: done04:16
naliothtakmadeus: now ctrl-o <enter>, and ctrl-x to quit04:17
takmadeusnalioth: done04:18
naliothtakmadeus: try your adept stuff now04:18
fatejudgerkkathman: I just used Firefox04:19
takmadeusnalioth: same thing hapenning.... which is weird, since I could get some files in the afternoon04:19
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fatejudgerkkathman: is it just that Konq doesn't support 128 bit encryption or is it that it doesn't detect it?04:19
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naliothtakmadeus: hit alt-f2, and enter "kdesu kate /etc/hosts"04:20
takmadeusnothing happened when I pressed alt + F2, I disabled the other terminals04:21
naliothgah...04:21
naliothok. k > run command > kdesu kate /etc/hosts04:21
takmadeusnailoth: done04:22
naliothtakmadeus: if you type na<tab> you'll get me everytime04:22
takmadeusnalioth: thanks for the advice ;)04:23
naliothtakmadeus: in the kate, remove the 82.211.81.151  from the line at the bottom04:23
takmadeusnalioth: done04:23
naliothtakmadeus: save it and try your adept again04:23
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takmadeusnalioth: I think I need to reboot my pc... wait a moemtn please04:26
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jrobinsonIs anyone successully using KLaptop with a Toshiba laptop?04:26
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arthurbHi, I have a trouble with my deskop, the device icons of umounted devices are not showin up04:37
realjimshadyarthur: you mean the icons don't show up when the devices aren't mounted?  what devices?04:39
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arthurball of them04:43
arthurbhard drive, usb key, cdrom drive04:43
arthurbthey used to04:43
arthurbnow they don't04:43
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[Relic] is there a url that details how to upgrade to breezy, since this would be the first time I tried it?04:56
arthurbapt-get dist-upgrade04:57
Hobbsee!upgrade2breezy04:57
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade04:58
naliothubotu: tell [Relic]  about breezy04:58
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arthurbhey, when I select Gtk in look n feel to configure it, it waits waits and finally does nothing05:01
arthurbnothing is launched,05:01
Hobbseedoes the same thing happen in kcontrol?05:02
arthurbwait05:03
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arthurbno05:03
arthurbit works fine there05:03
arthurbwell it works and doesn't cause it says gtk should use my kde fonts, and it sure ain't05:03
arthurbgimp still looks awful with huge fonts05:04
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arthurboh interestingly enough, if I set to use the style qt it works... but not if I ask to use my kde style05:05
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jasuttonhey arthurb05:08
jasuttonI've found those controls in kcontrol don't do a whole lot05:08
jasuttonyou might try the package 'gtk-chtheme'05:08
jasuttonit works very nicely for configuring gtk apps05:08
[Relic] so if I am reading that correctly I simply replace hoary with breezy in the sources.list file?05:10
jasuttonthat's the general idea05:10
arthurbno but now it works great05:12
arthurbI just can't launch it from the kubuntu made system setting05:13
[Relic] do I have to shut everything down?05:13
arthurband also I still have those devices that won't show up on the destop05:13
nalioth[Relic] : nope, you can stay here all the while05:15
nalioth[Relic] : it is recommended you restart when it's totally done, tho05:15
[Relic] not a problem there :)05:16
[Relic] now just to wait  :)05:16
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DelvienAre servers down ??05:17
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garuxhello all...05:39
garuxim have a question about wireless nic cards and kubuntu05:40
garuxi was wondering if anyone could help me sort out if i can run it or not05:40
robotgeekgarux: did you check the wiki?05:41
naliothubotu: tell garux about wireless05:41
garuxyes, i did.05:41
naliothgarux: hopefully you found your wifi thing on it05:42
garuxim rather new to linux, and the NDSWrapper stuff kinda went over my head05:42
garuxi understand the concept, but i dont think i could actually pull it off.05:42
garuxmy only way to connect with that machine is with a wireless card05:42
jasuttonwhat kind of wireless card is it?05:43
garuxi have a belkin 54g and a microsoft MN-52005:43
garuxthe MN-520 works straight away in fedora 405:43
naliothgarux: what is in the machine now?05:44
garuxthe MN-52005:44
naliothdid you find it on the wiki page?05:44
garuxnothing referencing that card itself05:45
garuxother than generic NDIS wrapping.05:45
naliothgarux: do you have the driver disk for it?05:45
robotgeekgarux: sudo modprobe prism5405:45
naliothah there ya go, robotgeek to the rescue05:46
robotgeekgarux: no, scratch that05:46
robotgeekgarux: sudo modprobe prism205:46
garuxthe prism2 drivers are in the install05:47
garuxbut they didnt pick it up05:47
garuxwould i have to install it blank and the do it after?05:47
garuxand agian im new to linux, so a lot of the command line stuff really goes over my head05:47
robotgeekgarux: hmm, sorry..i'll go a bit slower :)05:47
garuxand as far as i know05:47
garuxthe win drivers i would have would be for xp05:47
naliothgarux: please open a terminal (k > run command > konsole)05:48
garuxahh.. and theres the next kicker05:48
garuxi didnt finsih the install, because without the card i didnt want to run it05:48
naliothuh oh05:48
garuxmy house is entirely wireless 05:48
garuxso i cant really do much with it after the install05:49
garuxi originally installed ubuntu05:49
robotgeekgarux: it should work, the drivers are in the kernel. i've got a usb version of the same thing working, so 05:49
robotgeekgarux: i'll definetly be able to help you get your wireless working :)05:49
garuxi could always just run the install again and check back in05:49
naliothgarux: you can get with us from another machine, right?05:50
DelvienI want to change the Icons that are in the System tray (klaptop, SuperKaramaba, Kmixer etc.) WHERE are those icons stored???? so i may change them05:50
garuxyes on this machine im on now05:50
garuxits a ---windoze--- but dont hold that against me05:50
garuxim learning...05:50
robotgeekDelvien: maybe /usr/share/pixmaps/05:50
naliothDelvien: /usr/share/icons/05:50
garuxi appreciate your help robot05:50
naliothDelvien: either place may hold them05:50
robotgeekgarux: sure05:51
Delviennalioth  hmm ok.05:51
nalioth<sniff>05:51
garuxif it it matters at all.. i was born on the Isle of Man05:51
garuxwhich is home to canonical05:51
robotgeekheh05:51
garuxhence my want to use kubuntu05:51
naliothgarux: it's all personal preference05:51
robotgeeki was wondering why it sounded familiar!05:51
garuxfedora 4 is fine, but ive had problems05:51
Delviennalioth if im using a custom icon theme, does the systray go off of default.kde??05:51
garuxim not a militant user of anything05:52
naliothDelvien: if your icon theme is well thought out, it should replace all of them05:52
garuxi just want to expand into being able to use linux 05:52
Delviennalioth well its not mine, its Umicons 2.0.. So didnt change the sysicons.. which i want to now.05:52
garuxrobot.. before i start this install05:52
garuxdo i just install and not worry about the wireless card till afterwards?05:53
naliothDelvien: in general, a "good" icon theme will take care of all the icons05:53
Delviennalioth aye.. lol thats why i want to fix it05:53
robotgeekgarux: if you have any other machine to get to the net other than this one, that would be fine05:53
naliothDelvien: either directory may have them05:53
Delviennalioth ugh05:54
Delviennalioth lots of searching to do .. :) yay05:54
garuxthis isnt the one ill be installing05:54
garuxim using an older sony laptop05:54
garuxfor linux05:54
robotgeekgarux: hmm, it shud be cool05:55
garuxit runs fedora 4 fine05:55
garuxi had a nice time learning on that05:55
garuxgot the basics of installing apps and dependcies down05:55
garuxenough to know that i prefer KDE to Gnome05:55
robotgeekonce u use a debian based system, you ain't gonna go redhat's way!05:55
garuxi just picked at random from the top 5 of the ones people had told me to use05:56
robotgeekgarux: trust me on that one :)05:57
garuxis kubuntu debian based?05:57
robotgeekgarux: yes, kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde05:58
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garuxrobot,, would it make sense tht if the redhat cd had the drives for the card05:59
robotgeekgarux: so has ubuntu05:59
garuxI could use the Load-Iso to make it work?05:59
garuxim doing the install going through the steps, i chose Expert just to see the different areas06:00
robotgeekgarux: load iso? install cd, u mean?06:00
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naliothgarux: *buntu is all the same under the hood, just like the car makers put a different front end on the same model and call it different brands06:00
garuxyes..06:00
naliothgarux: matter of fact, i have x/k/ubuntu on my box right now06:00
garuxthe option in the buntu menu, is Load-Iso: load installer components from an installer disk06:01
robotgeekgarux: yeah, the install cd is fine. plus, if it worked in fedora out of the box, hopfully it should work in ubuntu too06:01
robotgeekout of the box, i meant06:01
garuxin fedora i didnt have to do anything with it. the card showed up as eth0  - it didnt for the install of ubuntu06:01
garuxi may be just thinking too much06:02
naliothgarux: does centrino mean anything to you re the ubuntu box?06:02
robotgeekgarux: hmm, interesting. 06:02
garuxits not a centrino processor06:03
robotgeeknalioth: my friend has a centrino running ubuntu. he claims it works much better on ubuntu than on windows06:03
naliothman i'm gonna be quiet now, i am gettin way too tired06:03
garuxim at the Find Network devices 06:03
naliothrobotgeek: my hp dv1000 is centrino and it all works ootb06:03
garuxit didnt find the card, but its telling me it found a firewire card, and i dont have a firewire card06:03
naliothi'm'a gon' be quiet now06:03
naliothgarux: open a konsole and we'll see06:04
garuxim not done the install yet06:04
naliothn/m you're installing06:04
naliothblah06:04
naliothlspci06:04
robotgeekgarux: just go ahead with the install, we'll take care of the wireless later06:04
garuxok 06:04
garuxshould i setup the disks using a boot, root, tmp and swap setup?06:05
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garuxthats what i was advised for running fedora06:06
robotgeekgarux: definetly keep a /home06:06
robotgeekand /boot is of 100mb is good too06:06
robotgeekswap and root are needed, normally06:06
garuxwell by root i mean the "/" name06:06
naliothgarux: i think you are thinking too deeply into this process06:07
robotgeekgarux: hmm, yes06:07
garuxyeah06:07
garuxi am06:07
robotgeekgarux: just choose the guided partioning :)06:07
garuxaight06:07
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DelvienAnyone here able to change their System Tray Icons ? if so i need some help06:19
kkathmanDelvien: what are you looking to do?06:20
Delvienkkathman change the icons for klaptop, superkaramba, klipper, kbluetoothD etc..06:21
Delvienthat lie in the system tray 06:21
naliothkkathman: Delvien got a half-a$$ theme that didnt replace all the icons06:22
kkathmanahh06:22
Delviennalioth its the only one that has GANT icons for KDE ..06:22
kkathmanwell, you can go to the application and change the icon in its properties, then it should start that in the system tray06:23
robotgeekDelvien: just copy that icon from that theme to your default theme?06:23
Delvientried that robot.. some of the icons are hidden deep06:23
robotgeekDelvien: ls -alR | grep gant,  i guess06:24
Delvien? what does that too06:24
Delviendo ?06:24
robotgeekDelvien: navigate to the place where you suspect the file is, then it will do a recursive listing of files, and grep it to show you the path to gant icon :)06:25
Delvienreplace gant with name of the app?06:26
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robotgeekDelvien: yup06:28
Delvienshows nothing when i do that..06:30
Delvienls -alR | grep kbluetoothd06:30
robotgeekDelvien: it may be named as something else, maybe06:30
[Relic] wheee!  update 738   :)06:31
[Relic] of about 1240 I think  :)06:31
Delvienhehe its complicated...06:33
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Delvienthe sys tray doesnt bother me... but i figure will give me something to do..06:33
Delvienok , good night all thanks for your help06:34
gazihanwhere is the necessary list of repositories for kubuntu listed? It is so hard to find them in the website(why?)06:34
nalioth!sources06:35
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:35
gazihanbut why06:35
gazihanwhy doesnt tho official kubuntu page have these?06:35
kkathmangazihan: they are thers, but neatly placed in their correct place06:35
gazihani can't find them06:36
kkathmannalioth: gave you the link06:36
gazihanplus, I got the repository for KDE 3.4.1 from some webpage I don't remember. it is http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/ blah blah06:37
gazihanI think I read it in anouncements or something in kubuntu website. but i see no mention of it in the site elsewhere06:38
kkathmangazihan: if you went to the website and the wiki for ubuntu (on the web site) there are all kinds of pages for repositories06:38
naliothgazihan: kubuntu.org has many advanced repositories06:38
gazihanok i will do my best to find a neat list of these in the wiki. if not I'll bug you again.06:39
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kkathmangazihan: try this:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes06:40
kkathmanthat will give you a full list of repos, plus very good instructions06:41
garuxsmall quesiton on the kernel06:41
garuxi should use the 2.6.12-9 version yeah?06:42
robotgeekwe are all ears06:42
robotgeekyup06:42
garuxok thanks.06:42
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kkathmanyes06:44
gazihankkathman: still, that's for breezy, and not all the reps are listed (like the one I mentioned before)06:44
gazihananyway I guess I need to live with checking the news occasionally ond when new kde releases come out add them to my repository.06:46
kkathmangazihan: those listed are the only official repos06:46
naliothgazihan: visit kubuntu.org (there are may repos for highly advanced and experimental repos06:46
kkathmangazihan: I would suggest that you simply use Kontact or a similar app to manage your KDE news as I do, or even better, stay tuned here for the quickest off the press news :)06:47
gazihankkathman: so if I had waited in the official hoary instead of adding the rep for kde 3.4.2, I would have gotten that someday you say?06:48
gazihannalioth: that's my point. may repositories around and its so hard to keep track since thay are scattered like that06:48
gazihannalioth: may=many06:49
kkathmangazihan: yes, as in breezy you would have been upgraded to 3.4.3 as I was06:49
kkathmanand of course you can "try" any of the RCs for 3.5 as mentioned in the channel topic.06:49
gazihankkathman: ok so these special new ones are kind of "experimental"06:50
gazihanoh RC06:50
gazihanok06:50
kkathmanyah...hence RCX06:50
kkathmanoops06:50
kkathmanRC = Release Candidate06:50
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gazihankkathman: do you have occasional problems on breezy? I used to have package dependancy errors in debian unstable since they wouldn't always update the tree consistantly and I would wait for a couple of days for an absent new package to be synchronized with the rep tree06:52
gazihankkathman: that's why i'm on hoary. is breezy less stable?06:53
garuxis grub or lilo preferred?06:53
gazihankkathman: i mean it should, but as a user do you complain?06:53
robotgeekgarux: get grub06:54
kkathmangazihan: I have an extremely stable install...I upgraded from hoary, which was also very stable06:54
kkathmangazihan: however, I only have a couple of "non-standard" programs that I compile and use outside the repos.06:54
gazihankkathman: that's good to hear. amarok 1.3 is too tempting maybe I should switch06:54
robotgeekgazihan: it's pretty neat :)06:55
gazihankkathman: but you would have to compile them the same way in hoary too?06:55
gazihanrobotgeek: ok I guess I'll switch:)06:55
kkathmangazihan: yes you would...and I will caveat my statement in saying that I dont do any sound/video, cuz I have WIndows workstations for all that06:55
robotgeekgazihan: i started using kde apps cause of amarok :)06:55
garuxis having grub06:55
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gazihanrobotgeek: yeah it's really amazing06:57
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robotgeekgazihan: it's awesome :)06:58
garuxso while im waiting for this to finish.06:58
garuxim not sure about recompile.06:58
robotgeekrecompile?06:58
garuxis that essentially a parallel to windows re-install06:58
garuxi understand the kernel aspect.06:58
robotgeekgarux: you don't need to recompile anything06:58
garuxbut not towards applications themselves06:59
garuxi got a few messages in fedora to that regard.06:59
gazihangarux: you get them as binaries in ubuntu06:59
garuxim dont really want to do it. just want to understand what it means on the basic level.06:59
robotgeekgarux: you mostly never need to recompile your kernel in ubuntu. apps, maybe if your needs are specific06:59
garuxok...06:59
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robotgeekgarux: hmm, say in the default kernel you don't have a kernel module. say wireless support is turned off.06:59
robotgeekgarux: you would need to download sources, enable wireless support and recompile07:00
garuxyou have to go back and add that definition07:00
robotgeekgarux: exactly07:00
garuxi get that for the kernel07:00
gazihanactually I like to have my own kernel all the time07:00
garuxits the same thing in windows when you add a service or branch07:00
garuxjust not as involved07:00
gazihangarux: not really07:00
robotgeekgarux: no, in windows you don't have choice over what to put in. in linux, you have07:01
garuxi need to do more reading about how linux works07:01
robotgeekgarux: one step at a time :)07:01
garuxyou do in a sense via the registry.07:01
garuxbut not into the lower levels.07:01
robotgeekgarux: oh, registry is a totally different ball game07:01
gazihangarux: source --compilation--> binary executable07:01
gazihangarux: you never have the sources in windows07:02
garuxyah because they dumbed it down07:02
gazihangarux: source is what programmers actually write07:02
robotgeekgarux: ah, no. 07:02
garuxcould you imagine the hell of explaining configure, make, make install to the majority of windows users?07:02
garuxthey compile it to an executable07:02
gazihanconfigure, make, make install = compilation07:03
gazihanyou never have that in windows07:03
garuxits the same oranges but with different apples07:03
robotgeekgarux: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm makes good reading07:03
[Relic] I am guess that if Idon't know what NFS is I am probably not running it?07:03
garuxim just thinking out loud07:03
garuxsorry about that..07:03
robotgeek[Relic] : yup07:03
gazihanyes you probably don't have it07:03
garuxLOL07:04
gazihangarux: by compiling your kernel you decide what your operating system will ever support 07:04
garuxi havent figured out nfs - but i got samba running07:04
gazihangarux: you can cut some off to make it more efficient07:05
garuxahh ok.. tuning the engine07:05
robotgeekgazihan: tho, with modules..that advantage is minimal07:05
gazihanthat's right07:05
garuxin theory you are supposed to be able to do that in windoze07:05
garuxbut god knows why you would want to07:05
robotgeekgarux: *theory*07:05
garuxmuch of windoze is theory07:06
[Relic] I thought it was bugs07:06
garuxi learned windoze on NT3.507:06
garuxvery much a theory in running that.07:06
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garuxi couldnt go totally off windows07:06
[Relic] sure you could  :)07:07
garuxim a graphic designer, and i live in photoshop and illustrator07:07
robotgeeki don't need windows to chat, browse or check email :)07:07
garuxi wont bash gimp07:07
garuxbut it just wont do the job07:07
garuxand i dont use macs, because my father is in MSDN07:07
gazihangimp actually in not bad, but yeah photoshop is superior07:07
garuxso all the win stuff is free (in a sense)07:07
garuxhe writes it off, and i get lots of useless disks of stuff id never install07:08
robotgeeki used to use OS X, but i just use linux now07:08
garuxbut just about everything MS releases and pre-leases goes through his particular channel07:08
garuxOS X is fine 07:08
garuxi like it07:08
garuxbut windows is more flexible overall 07:08
garuxfor me at least.07:09
robotgeekgarux: depends on your viewpoint :)07:09
garuxyeah i know...07:09
garuxand its also cost.07:09
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robotgeekgarux: i find it inflexible, tho i won't talk abt it here. it's offtopic :)07:09
garuxbut.. when and maybe when. adobe ports to linux.. ill be there07:09
robotgeekgarux: it's inevitable. All your base is belong to us. lol07:10
garuxhonestly... 07:11
garux2 thigns i have noticed about linux, that will prevent in going mass use07:11
garuxis the SU issue.07:11
garuxand the tracking and installing of applications07:11
robotgeekgarux: apt-get install works just fine :)07:11
garuxthe average user would never put up with that.07:12
garuxoh not for me...07:12
robotgeekgarux: there are efforts to "improve" on that front07:12
garuxbut in some cases having to use a tarball. or an rpm or... or...07:12
garuxits definitely not difficult to figure out07:12
arthurbHi, if I point konq to media:/ I see nothing07:13
robotgeekgarux: you would know how i feel if you read the link which i gave you :)07:13
garuxbut theres a reason that "standard" transmissions" dont come STANDARD anymore07:13
arthurbI used to see the hardrives and the like ..07:13
garuxunfortunately - i dont use irc that much07:14
garuxso im actually using Azureus as my chat client07:14
garuxi have no easy way of copying text07:14
robotgeekgarux: selecting the text will copy it, i think. middle click to paste07:15
garuxactually Ctrl - X did it07:16
garuxim kinda tired 07:16
garuxwas it this link?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards07:16
garuxor another one... that i missed07:16
robotgeekgarux: hmm, nope. http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm it's titled, linux is not windows :)07:16
garuxfound it07:17
garuxdid u write this?07:18
robotgeekgarux: nope07:18
garuxi agree with the novice computer user..07:18
garuxi was totally linux's bitch for a day07:19
garuxim still under its thumb07:19
robotgeekheh07:19
garuxbut im getting the grasp of the basics07:19
naliothgarux: there is plenty to learn here07:19
robotgeekgarux: after a while, it gets you :)07:19
garuxi dont think anyone should be called an expert in windows07:19
naliothwe can show you things07:19
naliothi am an expert in windows, and get more expert every year07:19
robotgeeki totally would be uncomfortable using windows!07:20
garuxive met more useless MCSE in my time than i have good ones07:20
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[Relic] :)07:20
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robotgeeknalioth: same here, i join you in your salvation :)07:20
garuxmy first job in networking, i was hired into a unix/linux dev group.07:20
garuxi was in school for mcse at the time, and he told me not to bother with the certs because he was going to hire me anyway07:21
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garuxso i never bothered wasting my money07:21
noirequusbbl07:21
garuxthe irony was i never got anytime to work on linux, because i was always fixing the windoze boxes the unix guys had broken07:22
robotgeekdell500: one sec. paste.ubuntulinux.nl/485007:22
robotgeekah, wrong window07:22
dell500:)07:22
garuxone thing i have noticed, why doesnt linux use Helvetica instead of Arial?07:23
garuxi find that strange.07:23
garuxArial being the MS bastard of Helvetica07:23
robotgeekgarux: nah, you got me. fonts were never my strong point07:25
=== [Relic] wonder how long this will take
[Relic] think I could have installed from a CD faster  :)07:26
garuxits doesnt matter so much on screen07:26
garuxbut helvetica is just cleaner... and it would be a nice thumb in the air07:26
garuxjust like linux users are proud in some cases to never use windows07:26
robotgeekgarux: you can choose to use helevetica. OS X uses that07:27
garuxdesigners are very proud to point out they dont use arial and make fun of those that do.07:27
garuxmac designers especially07:27
robotgeeklol07:27
garuxi only noticed in fedora.07:27
garuxbecause when i went to change the fonts it was defaulted to Arial but you couldnt adjust it, and then arial would disappear07:28
robotgeekcrap. 07:28
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robotgeeki think fonts are easy to change in kubuntu07:30
[Relic] I have veranda  :)07:31
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robotgeekit's a term, you see :)07:31
garuxyah KDE has some great applets for that.07:31
[Relic] I think that is the one I have07:32
garuxfar better than gnome at least07:32
garuxverdana is a derivative of helvetica as well07:32
garuxok... robot  im on the desktop07:32
garuxinstall is done07:32
robotgeekgarux: depends, point of view. i am using gnome :)07:32
[Relic] also haven't run into many if any apps that can't be read due to an inverted color set, like was a big problem on windows07:32
garuxi think KDE makes more sense to a person used to using windowz07:33
[Relic] makes for an easy switch07:33
robotgeekit's nicely integrated, very easy to use. gnome, not so well integrated i feel07:33
[Relic] if only I could find a really good text editor like crimson editor or the old dos aurora07:33
robotgeekgarux: can you open up a terminal and type 'lspci | less' and see if your wireless card has been detected07:34
robotgeek[Relic] : vim :)07:34
[Relic] PIA when your last open documents don't come back up the same way you left them07:35
[Relic] hard to make a game w/o mutliple files openand easily accessible too :)07:35
robotgeek[Relic] : vi -O file1 file2 :)07:36
[Relic] if they had only released the aurora source  :)07:36
robotgeek[Relic] : plus, i use screen. so it's very convienient :)07:36
garuxno doesnt look ike it robot..07:36
garuxthe only entry i dont understand totaly is BRIDGE, but i think thats for usb?07:37
robotgeekgarux: as in it doesn't show anything about wireless? crazy07:37
robotgeekgarux: okay, type this 'dmesg | grep wireless'07:37
garuxit found both cardbus slots, but nothing in them07:37
robotgeekgarux: ah okay, is the microsoft card in there?07:38
garuxeither im typing it wrong or nothing is there07:39
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garuxjust sends me to another prompt07:39
robotgeekgarux: if so, type 'sudo modprobe prism2'07:39
robotgeekgarux: it's fine, don't worry. just type the thing above07:40
garuxnothing for modprobe either07:40
garuxfatal - module not found07:40
robotgeekgarux: hmm, one sec07:41
robotgeekgarux: can you tell me the output of uname -r07:41
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robotgeekgarux: 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)'07:42
garux2.6.12-9-38607:42
garuxkernel version07:42
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garuxno such file robot07:46
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garuxsorry made a typo07:47
garuxtis going now07:47
robotgeekgarux: cool07:47
garuxim kinda tall and have big hands07:48
garuxthe sony is a lot smaller than my production box keyboardwise07:48
robotgeekgarux: same here. you tend to type faster :)07:48
garuxive gotten to typing without looking, but my fingers hit all kinds of buttons at once07:49
garuxok back to the original commands?07:49
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robotgeekgarux: hmm, just hold on. i'm trying to find the exact module name. brb07:50
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garuxno problem07:50
[Relic] wonder how many more hours this will take  :(07:53
robotgeekgarux: try 'sudo modprobe prism_pci' 07:54
robotgeekgarux: tho, that might not have worked. brb again07:56
aftertafboing :)07:56
chaoticgeekhello all07:56
chaoticgeekI go home tomorrow for Turkey day break07:56
chaoticgeek:)07:57
crimsunlucky you.07:57
chaoticgeekubotu:  hi07:57
ubotuque tal07:57
crimsunI still have to teach tomorrow.07:57
chaoticgeekhows it going all?07:57
garuxnot found - fatal07:57
robotgeekcrimsun: i just turned in my thesis documentation :)07:57
chaoticgeekthat sucks, although I do have a class at 5:45 where I have a quiz07:57
crimsunrobotgeek: congrats!07:58
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chaoticgeekor test07:58
robotgeekgarux: just as i suspected. 07:58
chaoticgeekMacroEcon07:58
chaoticgeekboy that class is boring07:58
crimsunoh? My Dad's an econ prof, heh.07:58
chaoticgeeklol07:58
robotgeekcrimsun: thanks, gotta take care of the formatting stuff. latex to the rescue :007:58
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crimsunyes, latex rocks07:59
robotgeekgarux: try 'sudo modprobe prism54'07:59
chaoticgeekI dont like that class, I usualy end up reading from my java book for class07:59
robotgeekdamn, i've spend about 16 hours in front of the comp today08:00
chaoticgeekwow08:00
garuxno fatal error,, but it just returned a prompt08:01
chaoticgeekrobotgeek: what are you in?08:01
robotgeekgarux: cool, lsmod | grep prism08:01
robotgeekchaoticgeek: as in? i'm a mechanical grad08:02
chaoticgeekwow08:02
garuxprism54 - filesize > firmware_class08:03
robotgeekgarux: try going to the network admin thingy in kde. i am not sure abt that. i use gnome. :(08:04
robotgeekgarux: did the card light up though?08:04
garuxdo you want me to switch to gnome?08:04
garuxor does kubuntu not install gnome?08:04
garuxi used default session so im not sure08:05
robotgeekgarux: kubuntu doesn't install gnome08:05
robotgeekgarux: anyways, i think that it was *not* successful. 08:05
robotgeekgarux: we might have to compile our own drivers, or you might have to use ndiswrapper. uggh08:06
garuxwell it displayed those drivers08:06
garuxit didnt do it for the other prism stuff08:07
robotgeekgarux: i know, but that was a different chipset. it shouldn't have worked :)08:08
robotgeeki dunno why the prism2_pci driver is not installed by default08:09
[Relic] time to reboot and see if my computer explodes  :)08:09
garuxi having a slight issue08:10
robotgeekgarux: i'm looking, but tell me about your issue08:10
garuxbecause the default doesnt seem to let me use SU on the control vcenter08:10
garuxand i cant just login as root, because i cant get into user manager08:10
robotgeekhmm, i dunno anything about kde. but i think this might be your issue08:12
aftertafgarux:  use sudo then08:12
robotgeek!tell garux about sudo08:12
chaoticgeekubotu: tell garux -about sudo08:12
garuxim new to linux - im using the gui08:13
garuxnot in a command line08:13
garuxthats one thing that im not sure how to do08:13
chaoticgeekthen you need to learn the command line08:13
garuxgoes to read08:13
robotgeekgarux: kdesu08:13
chaoticgeeklol08:13
garuxi cant learn it all at once08:13
robotgeekgarux: np08:14
chaoticgeekif you hit [alt] [f2]  then type in the box that pops open 'konsole' it will open up a  command line for ya08:14
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robotgeekgarux: i got bad news. the prism2_pci module is apparently not installed by default. so, we ill either have to compile it, or go the ndiswrapper way08:15
garuxthe thing with terminal is that i dont know the name of all the apps08:16
robotgeekgarux: tab completion is ur friend08:17
garuxnever mind.. i figged it out...08:17
garuxyou right click over the icon and add into command08:18
robotgeekgarux: will you be online about tommorow. i am tired, and i need to crash?08:23
garuxyes robot08:27
garuxits going to take me some time to figure out ths su thing08:27
garuxim appreciate your help.08:27
robotgeekgarux: well get it done tommorow. cya around. 18 hours in front of the comp definetly doesn't help :)08:28
chaoticgeekhey garux this may help you out http://www.linuxcommand.org/08:28
robotgeek!cli08:28
ubotuit has been said that cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/, or http://www.tuxfiles.org08:28
robotgeekgarux: night, cya tommorow08:29
chaoticgeekfine08:29
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chaoticgeekwell I'm off too08:29
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garuxit all helps08:30
garuxi keep reading and reading.08:30
garuxit just needs to be able to sink in08:30
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cryptomHi, i use a self-compiled kernel (with initrd) and i get lots of: modprobe: FATAL: could not load /lib/modules/new-kernel-version/modules.dep: No such file or directory08:47
cryptomnot during "normal" boot-up, but before the kubuntu-splash screen starts08:48
cryptomis this related to initrd?08:48
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_hwhat's your hdparm options?08:52
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JakubScryptom: depmod -a08:55
cryptomJakubS, i already tried that08:55
cryptomits not that the modules are not built, these warnings do not appear when the kernel is not built with initrd08:56
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cryptomhow can i mount the initrd image? i tried gunzipping it (that works) and mounting it as ext2, minix (does not work)08:57
kairu0hey all08:58
cryptomwhat skeleton is used when the initrd image is created with make-kpkg --initrd?08:58
Hobbseehey kairu0 08:58
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kairu0say i have a locale problem08:59
kairu0when i run kde apps from konsole i get:08:59
kairu0Qt: Locales not supported on X server08:59
kairu0and i've run dpkg-reconfigure to generate the right locale (es_US)09:00
kairu0any ideas?09:00
Hobbseehmmm09:00
_hHow do yo you tune your hard disk by hdparm? What options do you use?09:00
kairu0LANG, LC_ALL, etc. are all set to es_US.UTF-8 09:01
JakubScryptom: romfs or cramfs09:03
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darksoul!ati09:04
ubotuati is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1009:04
cryptomJakubS, its not cramfs, and unfortunately, i dont have romfs in the kernel, so i can try09:05
JakubSi wonder how this initrd got loaded then09:06
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darksoul!sources09:07
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic09:07
cryptomJakubS, might that be the problem? that romfs is not in the kernel?09:07
JakubSbah, even current phase of moon can be a problem :-)09:08
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cryptomi will try and recompile the kernel...09:11
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chaoticgeek_awayhave fun w/ the recompile09:15
chaoticgeek_awayI've heard its long and tedious, but I've never done it09:15
aftertafchaoticgeek_away:  boo. its fast and fun. with make kpkg :)09:16
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cryptomchakie_work, its quite nice with debian-based distros, you can build a deb-package automatically... just have a cup of coffee ;-)09:31
cryptomchakie_work, sorry, wrong name competion (i meant chaoticgeek_away)09:31
chakie_workgosh09:32
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chakie_workthe joys of alpabetical tab completion09:32
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ninuxbonjour09:33
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naliothallo09:35
aftertafninux:  hello.09:38
aftertafis la basse normandie as cold as haute normandie this morning?09:39
chaoticgeek_awayyes cryptom?09:47
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chaoticgeekhello h09:50
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crimsunplease don't abuse the bot...09:51
chaoticgeekmaybe I should sleep09:51
chaoticgeeksry crimsun 09:51
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ninuxoui il y fait froid 09:59
ninuxi'm french 09:59
ninuxend i config the news system unbuntu 09:59
ninuxubuntu09:59
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naliothninux: if you like, #ubuntu-fr est francophone10:02
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Arveduihello10:03
aftertafhi Arvedui :)10:04
Arveduihow are you?10:04
ArveduiCan anybody help me, I wanted to install Kubuntu in my pc10:05
aftertafored but happy :)10:05
aftertaf+b10:05
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Arveduibut I can't10:06
Arveduiaftertaf could you help me?10:06
aftertafask away.10:15
Arveduiaftertaf: I have the knowledges to install kubuntu (I installed another linux distributions) but when I install kubuntu10:15
Arveduiaftertaf: when Its installing the base systems, over a 30% computer seems to be blocked and after waiting a while I must reboot10:15
Arveduiaftertaf:  because I can't do anything10:15
ninuxoki thank you for the rom #ubuntu-fr nalioth 10:15
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ninuxoki thank you for the salon #ubuntu-fr nalioth 10:15
ninuxbye all 10:15
ninuxend good day 10:15
ninuxbye10:15
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hhow do I change the setting to not to play the DVD when I insert the DVD?10:15
naliothArvedui: have you verified the integrity of your iso image?10:15
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Arveduinalioth: my brother has put kubuntu into 3 computers before me, whith the same Dvd as I used10:15
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Arveduinalioth: he studies computers engineery but he has'nt be able to help me10:18
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aftertafArvedui:  maybe your dvd player then.10:19
naliothArvedui: is the optical drive in your computer functional?10:20
Arveduiaftertaf: I put it new 1 month ago and I haven't had any problems with all my discs10:20
aftertafweird. Arvedui this is with the breezy dvd? try booting on live cd part of it, see if it says anything...10:21
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aftertafArvedui:  and if that works, try to download the install CD and try that way. if that works you can add the dvd as an apt repository10:22
Arveduiaftertaf: the live part works ok10:22
bubblenutHey, my machine locked up during an upgrade from hoary to breezy, I did a hard reboot came back in and tried to re-run apt-get dist-upgrade and it asked be to run a configure command (dpkg --configure -a I think) which I did and then I tried to run the dist-upgrade again and it's giving me the following error http://pastebin.com/43602610:22
aftertafdownload the cd then see if that does the sam ething. if it does and you know your hardware is ok, file a bug report ;)10:22
aftertafbubblenut:  try "sudo apt-get -f install"10:22
bubblenutwhat does that do?10:23
Arveduiaftertaf:  my brother said that my chipset: an AMD-SiS could not work10:23
aftertafArvedui:  ok. not work as in not compatible?10:24
bubblenutOooh, resolves dependencies, that would be the monkey. Thanks aftertaf :)10:24
aftertafArvedui:  come to #ubuntu and say what you have said to us here...10:24
aftertafbubblenut:  :] 10:24
Arveduiaftertaf:  ok, he said that is not compatible... sorry english is not my native language10:24
aftertafwb Hobbsee 10:24
Hobbseety aftertaf 10:24
aftertafArvedui:  hey no problem :)10:25
aftertafother cultures should not have to aplogise for not speaking english as a mother tongue ;)10:25
hhow do I change the setting to not to play the DVD when I insert the DVD?10:25
Arveduiaftertaf:  I live in a small island in the mediterranean sea10:26
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aftertafArvedui:  which one???10:26
Arveduiaftertaf: Mallorca, a lots of british and germanian people come every year on holidays10:27
aftertafnice :)   yeah, they do!!!10:27
aftertafwarmer than in france right now?10:27
Arveduiaftertaf:  what means warmer?10:28
aftertafless cold10:28
aftertafhotter, if you prefer ;)10:28
Arveduiaftertaf: french people come here but in less percentage10:29
aftertafArvedui:  what is your motherboard and chipset?  join #ubuntu and ask if anybody can help you install 10:29
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Arveduiaftertaf: I have an "all-in-one" ASRock Micro ATX with an AMD-SiS chipset10:30
aftertafok. ask them in ubuntu.....10:31
Arveduiaftertaf: thank you very much10:31
aftertafno problem :)10:31
Arveduiaftertaf: one thing... where do you live?10:31
aftertafin the north of france.... but i'm from england10:32
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aftertafhi bimberi  :)10:32
aftertafwb viviersf :)10:32
bimberi'evening aftertaf :)10:33
aftertafmorning...10:33
aftertafahh you ozzies :] 10:33
Arveduiaftertaf: I want to go on travel to france... I think it's nice. But I dislike with their politic centralism10:33
bimberi:)10:33
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viviersfthx aftertaf 10:34
aftertafArvedui:  yeah they want to have a hold everywhere on the planet..... its a cultural survival instinct...10:34
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aftertafnot the clothing retailer10:35
bimberi... but it's the first hit :P10:35
Arveduiaftertaf:  I'm from a small culture, and spanish government tries to erase our identity like makes france10:35
aftertafyeah .... everywhere sucks ! ! !    :] 10:36
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aftertaflol10:39
Arveduiaftertaf: for example in the south france there are catalan people, they are culturally near to me. But french government tries to erradicate its identity and make all of them partiotic french10:39
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aftertafyeah i know.10:40
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Arveduiaftertaf: one last thing, what's happening on france with violence acts? I have read in newspaper, but I don't understand it10:42
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aftertafthe immigrant youth are lashing out and burning cars to protest against everything.10:43
aftertafjob discrimination, bad housing.... etc etc. but it is a lot more complex than that...10:43
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Arveduiaftertaf: ok... I hope in a future that everybody will be happy and free10:45
aftertafme 2, me 210:46
Arveduiaftertaf:  bye! I must work on my history manuals! See you soon10:46
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bubblenutWOOT! I got breezy :D10:59
bubblenutDoes anyone know the name of the program which speeds up booting by starting services concurrently?10:59
hI want to see if you have this problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=511061#post51106111:01
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aftertafbubblenut:  ask in ubuntu, i can't remember11:11
aftertafand let me know ;)11:11
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ilredshi11:17
ilredsmy amule crashed and bow is in state D...if i relaunch amule, the second process is in state R and does't work...answers?11:18
ilredsnow11:19
naliothilreds: kill all amule processes11:20
ilredsnalioth: not simple11:20
naliothilreds: sure it is. open konsole, type "ps aux|grep amule"11:21
naliothfind the PID and kill it11:21
ilredswith kill -s SIGKILL or kill -9 i con't kill the amule in state D11:21
naliothilreds: then that sounds like software that is pure crap11:21
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cheerhallo, ich wollte grade Kubuntu installieren, er bootet auch von CD, ich tippe "install" ein und kann deutsch - deutsch - deutsch auswhlen, jedoch kommt dann bei der suche nach dem CD-Rom die Fehlermeldung: Kann cd-rom laufwerk nicht einbinden, somit komme ich nicht weiter ;( weiss jemand rat?11:35
Tm_T#kubuntu-de or use english11:35
cheeroh sry11:35
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Tm_T;)11:35
cheeri'll join the german channel ;-)11:35
raphinkok :)11:35
aftertafsudo killall amule11:36
naliothTm_T: you're so nice....  ;)11:36
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Tm_Terr?11:37
raphinknalioth: are you ok with your pbuilder now?11:37
Tm_Tnalioth: well, I can't help if he uses deutch11:37
naliothraphink: did we go over it?11:37
cheerehm i'll try to describe my problem to you the german chan is so empty ..11:37
bubblenutaftertaf: initNG11:38
raphinknot nalioth 11:38
aftertafhehe11:38
raphinks/not/no/11:38
Tm_Tcheer: I'm not surprised, in just invented that name :p11:38
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cheerthis is the nickname of the last irc user on this pc^^11:39
Tm_Tok11:39
raphinkTm_T: no #kubuntu-de exists ;)11:39
Tm_Traphink: it does? whoa11:39
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naliothcheer es mehr luete im #ubuntu-de11:39
raphinkmore and more #kubuntu-xx are created lately11:39
cheerbuy nobody can help me there ;<11:40
raphinkcheer: you could try with no-apci maybe11:40
Tm_Traphink: and !kubuntu.fi @ IRCnet11:40
raphinknope je pense pas11:40
naliothcheer: nicht ""K""ubuntu-de, aber #ubuntu-de11:40
cheerhm..11:40
cheerok11:40
naliothes tu mir leid, meine deutsch ist schlect11:41
robin_2I'm using kubuntu on my laptop, so I need to save as much power as possible :). I'm using hdparm -S 1 /dev/hdc to put my hardisk to zZz when there is no activity. But, every N secs, the hdd light flashes (1s < n < 5s). How can I see, what program or proces is accessing the hdd ?11:41
cheerdas macht nichts, mein englisch auch ;)11:41
raphinknalioth: nicht ... sondern ... ;)11:41
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cheeri can't install kubuntu on my computer, i can boot from cd/dvd and select my language, after this it tries to detect my hardware it says hey dude i can't bin your dvd-rom this is the end ;(11:41
naliothcheer did you verify the validity of the install cd?11:42
raphinkcheer: did you check the md5 sum?11:42
naliothubotu: tell cheer about verify11:42
cheerhm.. i tried the cd and dvd and i instanlled it on another pc11:42
cheerso i think the cd should be okay11:42
pussfellerkaffeine isnt playing my DVD's... its like hanging or something11:43
naliothcheer: is the current machine you are trying on with an old cd drive?11:43
raphinknalioth: that wouldnt' boot on DVD 11:43
cheerno it's a new one ( i bought it yesterday ) the old one in this computer did the same thing11:43
robin_2I'm using kubuntu on my laptop, so I need to save as much power as possible :). I'm using hdparm -S 1 /dev/hdc to put my hardisk to zZz when there is no activity. But, every N secs, the hdd light flashes (1s < n < 5s). How can I see, what program or proces is accessing the hdd ?11:43
naliothcheer: is the machine very new?11:44
cheerno p4 2,4 ghz11:44
cheerasus P4p800 is the mainbord11:45
cheeris it possible, that the ide bus is not supportet?11:46
naliothcheer: when was the machine made?11:47
cheerabout 1-2 years11:47
cheerwindows 2000 was running on it until yesterday ;)11:47
naliothcheer the kubuntu should install with out a problem at all11:47
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cheerso my hardware is destoryed? 11:48
pussfeller!dvd11:48
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl11:48
robin_2I'm using kubuntu on my laptop, so I need to save as much power as possible :). I'm using hdparm -S 1 /dev/hdc to put my hardisk to zZz when there is no activity. But, every N secs, the hdd light flashes (1s < n < 5s). How can I see, what program or proces is accessing the hdd ?11:49
bubblenutWhat source do I have to add to install initNG?11:49
naliothcheer: of course not. fragen sie in #ubuntu , bitte11:49
cheerok thank you nalioth 11:49
naliothcheer:  ich bin ein dummkopf 11:49
cheernalioth: no you aren't11:50
naliothwell, cheer there are more people in #ubuntu that might be able to help you11:51
cheerok u11:51
cheerehm, i'll check it out^^11:51
naliothcheer: the only difference in ubuntu and kubuntu is gnome and kde11:52
cheerthat's why i use kubuntu =)11:52
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Rayman_is there a way to flush the swap to ram?12:16
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bubblenutDoes ubuntu use a different name for grub.conf?12:27
raphinknope bubblenut 12:29
raphinksoryr12:29
raphinkhehe12:29
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raphinkit's menu.lst12:29
raphinkthat's the grub conf file12:29
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raphinkbubblenut: /boot/grub/menu.lst12:30
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bubblenutthanks :)12:39
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viviersfbubblenut, why ? 12:44
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bubblenutviviersf: so that I can edit it12:51
viviersfheh12:51
viviersfsince you know something bout grub12:51
viviersfwhy would it sumtimes refuse to load ?12:51
viviersfthe cursor just blinks when the computer boots 12:51
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bubblenutI didn't say I know anything about grub, I just like breaking my computer :)12:52
viviersfhaha ok12:52
dipnlikviviersf: define "when the computer boots"12:52
bubblenutIs there anything in syslog?12:52
viviersfso you are noobie12:52
viviersfdipnlik, when the grub screen is supposed to come up, the cursor just blinks12:52
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bubblenut4 years with linux and still as ignorant as the day I started :)12:53
raphinklol12:53
viviersf8 years using linux12:53
viviersfand the only thing ive learned 12:53
viviersfis how to break my pc in new ways12:53
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dipnlikviviersf: hm... never seen that here. Sometimes my PC refuses to boot but I think it is RAM-related12:54
viviersfdipnlik, well it happens12:54
viviersfand i dont know12:55
viviersfdipnlik, your bios is phoenix ?12:55
puckmanalmost 4 months of linux and kicking himself for not switching earlier.12:55
dipnlikviviersf: I get the same blinking cursor, but it is even before even the BIOS. Don't know exactly about the BIOS, sorry12:55
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dipnlikviviersf: what about Phoenix BIOS?12:55
viviersfthe pc's in this office 12:57
viviersfget this 12:57
viviersfbut they have phoenix bios12:57
viviersfi got hp bios and i dont get it12:57
dipnlikhm12:58
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DjDarkmanhy i have installed a linux driver for my nvidia geforce video card ,where can i access the x configuration to enalbe 3d acceleration?01:07
viviersfok if i lost grub on the mbr and i wanted to reinstall it01:08
viviersfwhat would be the correct way of doing this ?01:09
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DjDarkmanso noone knows how can I enable 3d accelerationn?01:11
jpowersI think it used to be dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or something like that01:12
jpowersI know it's a dpkg-reconfigure script01:12
jpowersI'm just not sure which package you have to reconfigure01:12
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DjDarkmantheres gotto be a way...01:13
YudiWhow to shutdown the kubuntu from linux console? i try shutdown -h  (using root) but it seem no correct01:14
Hobbsee!tell viviersf about reinstallgrub01:14
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HobbseeCyberMad:  sudo shutdown now -h01:14
CyberMadHobbsee thanks01:14
Hobbseeno problems01:15
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DjDarkmanhow can I enable 3d accelaration?01:15
Hobbsee!nvidia01:15
ubotu[nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736801:15
Hobbseeyou did the stuff there, i take it?01:15
JuerdCyberMad: Please disable colors.01:16
Hobbseeah, i was wondering why my name was suddenly green...01:16
CyberMadok, i will use normal IRC Client01:17
CyberMadthis is my own script01:18
bubblenutIs there an equivalent of redhat's rc.local in ubuntu?01:18
Hobbseei wonder why this channel doesnt have a "no colours" restriction on it...01:19
Hobbseebubblenut: um...what's a redhat's rc.local?01:19
bubblenutIn redhat, in /etc/ there's a file called rc.local which is an init file for user entries01:19
JuerdHobbsee: Colour might occasionally be useful.01:19
JuerdLike for whispering01:19
bubblenutIn my kubuntu install all I see is rcS.d, rc0.d etc01:19
JuerdOr indicating a mistaka in syntax01:20
HobbseeJuerd: for what?  most clients already have highlighting by default, same for whispering01:20
bubblenutIf I have something I want run at boot time, where do I put it?01:20
Hobbseebubblenut: /home/user/.kde/Autostart01:20
Hobbseeor...i think there's a place in /usr/ too01:20
JuerdHobbsee: I said whispering, not private shouting :)01:20
Hobbseeaftertaf: you around?01:20
Hobbseetrue01:20
JuerdThis can be great for added drama.01:21
bubblenutHobbsee: But there's not user directory in /home ! OMG WTF?!?! ;) J/K, thanks :)01:21
Hobbseehehe01:21
JuerdHey, hey you. Yes, you there. Hello :)01:21
Hobbseethere's /usr/share/autostart too01:21
JuerdSee? The same thing without the dark gray wouldn't have been so obviously inconspicuous.01:22
Hobbseeno dark grey background here01:24
dipnlikwhat's all this coloring about? o.O (reading history to see what's happening here...)01:26
Hobbseepeople deciding to use colour in what they say01:26
dipnlikno no, please don't!01:27
Hobbseeexactly01:27
dipnliklife is good in black and white :)01:27
Hobbseelol...and red01:28
Hobbseeand blue01:28
Hobbseeand purple01:28
dipnlikcolors are for syntax highlighting :)01:28
Hobbseeand all the other colours that the irc clients automatically change lines to be01:28
Hobbseeexactly01:28
Hobbseethat's the phrase i was looking for01:28
dipnliktime to go www.creativecommons.org :P01:29
Hobbseedipnlik: how'd you get irssi 0.8.10?01:31
Hobbseeanything in it worth upgrading to?01:31
dipnlikHobbsee: sudo apt-get install irssi-text, IIRC01:32
Hobbseeso it is...01:32
Hobbseei thought i was only using 0.8.901:32
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erwinBonjour tout le monde !01:40
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erwinA qui doit-on reporter un bug sous ubuntu ?01:41
dipnlikmsg ubotu bugs01:41
dipnlikerwin: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/01:42
dipnlikerwin: but this channel is english only01:42
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Hobbseeso tired...01:46
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Hobbseeerwin: /topic01:48
erwinsry01:56
erwintanks01:56
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raphaelfnobreboa tarde!02:49
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raphaelfnobrecomo trocar a tela de inicializaao?03:03
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gigcshi03:09
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dipnlikraphaelfnobre: english only, and pvt03:10
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[square] hello. i have this problem: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/43614703:24
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atidemhello03:25
atidemI have a problem with console's linux font03:26
atidemwhen I launch it, I receive this message: Font `-misc-console-medium-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-80-iso10646-1' not found.03:26
atidemI tried to read /usr/share/doc/konsole/README.Linux-font for help03:27
atidembut not works03:27
atidemanyone can give me an advice?03:27
atidem?03:30
gigcsi have question03:30
sambagirlyou may have to ask in #ubuntu atidem03:30
gigcshow i can say ubuntu develop .03:30
atidemok, thank you sambagirl 03:31
sambagirlyour welcome03:31
sambagirlhow you can say? you just do this.03:31
gigcssambagirl:do you know add package on cd .03:32
sambagirlwhat country is TH?03:32
kkathmanlol sambagirl :)03:32
kkathmanthailand?03:32
sambagirlahh 03:32
kkathmanjust guessing :)03:33
sambagirlyour meaning synaptic or kanaptic gigcs?03:33
kkathmanIm not sure what he means, I may need my secret decoder ring03:34
sambagirl:D03:34
gigcsno , add package on cd .remastering install cd .03:35
sambagirli thinking what ahh03:35
sambagirlahh03:35
sambagirlno03:35
sambagirlwhy you want to make copies, no?03:36
sambagirlis this what your meaning? make copies of ubuntu cd?03:36
kkathmangigcs: what package?03:36
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kkathmansambagirl: I think maybe he wants to possibly modify the ubuntu live image possibly?03:36
kkathmanand you cant do that to my knowledge03:37
sambagirlthat is not a good idea03:37
sambagirloh i understand now03:37
sambagirlhe wants to join developemtn group and have his mods added to the cd03:37
kkathmansambagirl: Hey Im takin a shot in the dark here :)03:37
kkathmanyah maybe that too03:37
kkathmanbetween the 2 of us we'll start an international crisis03:38
sambagirlheh03:38
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gigcskkathman:xine package .i wish add xine package on  install cd .03:39
sambagirl                                             gigs03:39
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kkathmangigcs:  you mean the live CD ?03:39
sambagirlgigs your wanting to join development, no?03:39
gigcsno , install cd . not live cd.03:41
sambagirlyou needing to talk with devs03:41
kkathmangigcs: no need, you just install the cd, then update your install with that package03:41
kkathmansambagirl: dont think he wants that...he just wants to add xine to his install03:41
kkathmangigcs:  are you familiar with apt-get ?03:42
kkathmanno need to burn another cd..just add the package and install it with apt-get install03:42
gigcskkathman: no . i want add package on  install cd . 03:42
sambagirloh03:43
kkathmangigcs: there's no need to do that.03:43
sambagirlwhat package?03:43
kkathmansambagirl: xine03:43
sambagirland redistribute to world ?03:43
sambagirlok well i not knowing what xine is03:43
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kkathmanxine is a music engine like gstreamer03:43
kkathmanused in amarok and kaffeine03:43
gigcssambagirl: i want redistribution install cd .03:44
_mariushow are people doing here?03:44
_mariushow are you people doing here?03:44
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sambagirlis ok 03:44
raingrovexine can't play mp3 in kubuntu03:44
raingrovei had to install mad somehow03:45
kkathmangigcs: you cannot do that Im afraid, I think that would violate the GNU Public License03:45
kkathmanraingrove: sure it can03:45
sambagirlyou needing talk to ubuntu people first, no?03:45
sambagirlis like installing your own thing on macos 03:45
sambagirlfore redistribution is leagal?03:45
raingrovekkathman, but i needed to install libmad or something like that before i could play mp3 with xine03:45
kkathmanraingrove: hmm...maybe I already had that installed then :)03:45
raingrovehmm03:46
raingrovesomething's wrong with the kde repositories now03:46
raingrovemy synaptic is failing to get files03:46
gigcskkathman: i want add package . and i use .03:46
bl3ssinghei ... my nick is right over here. how can I log in for using it? :-((03:46
kkathmangigcs: just install, then use apt-get03:46
bl3ssinglol03:46
bl3ssingsorry ... misunderstanding between me and my nickname. :-)03:47
bl3ssing=))03:47
gigcssambagirl: Please advise . Who  can redistribution .03:47
kkathmanraingrove: hmmm disturbing, did you change anything in your sources.list?03:47
sambagirli would visit www.ubuntu.org03:47
raingrovekkathman,  no03:47
kkathmanraingrove: when did this start?03:48
raingrovejust a while ago03:48
raingrovemaybe it's my connection03:48
raingrovetry getting packages like kscreensave03:48
raingrovesaver03:48
sambagirli not sure gigcs i just thinking is good starting place 03:48
kkathmanraingrove: you mean with, say, apt-get ?03:48
raingroveyea03:48
kkathmanraingrove: no problem here03:49
kkathmanjust tried03:49
raingrovemaybe it's my connection then03:49
gigcskkathman: you have advise .03:49
kkathmanmaybe your connection or those specific archives are temporarily unavailable03:49
raingroveyea03:50
gigcssambagirl: How i can say develop ubntu.03:50
sambagirlkkathman is developer of Ubuntu! He will help everyone with their problems :)03:50
kkathmangigcs: you cannot take a (k)ubuntu image, and change it, then redistribute it - That violates the GNU Public License. 03:50
kkathmansambagirl:  Im not a developer :)03:51
sambagirlthese things i hearing 03:51
kkathmangigcs: its not a big thing you are asking. There is no need to repackage just to put xine in the distribution03:51
sambagirlyour developer03:51
sambagirlis remarkable, no?03:51
kkathmansambagirl: nope, Im not a developer03:52
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kkathmangigcs: not everyone needs xine, and so its not put in the install. But if you DO need it, you can just apt-get install it from the repositories.03:53
sambagirlwhat is xine 03:53
raingroveW: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdeartwork/kdeartwork-theme-icon_3.4.3-0ubuntu1_all.deb03:54
raingrove  Bad header line [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 03:54
raingroveW: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdeartwork/kdeartwork-theme-window_3.4.3-0ubuntu1_i386.deb03:54
raingrove  Bad header line [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 03:54
kkathmansambagirl: xine is a sound engine03:54
raingrovethis is what i gt03:54
gigcssambagirl:xine is multimedia program.03:54
kkathmanraingrove: bad source looks like..or its someone's private source and their computer isnt up maybe03:54
sambagirlliek vlc?03:54
kkathmansambagirl: like gstreamer and maybe mplayer, etc03:55
sambagirlyou say do apt-get xine03:55
kkathman!info xine03:55
raingrovekkathman/ but it's archive.ubuntu.com03:55
kkathmanraingrove: oh wait03:55
kkathmanhmm03:55
kkathmanraingrove: looks like the header is bad ... I dunno03:56
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kkathman!info xine-ui03:57
ubotuxine-ui: (the xine video player, user interface), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.99.3-1ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 1680 kB, Installed size: 3416 kB03:57
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kkathmansambagirl: xine has a limited ui, but is basically a music playing engine, like gstreamer. it can be used in amarok and kaffeine03:58
sambagirldo apt-get  xine?03:58
kkathmansambagirl:  do an apt-cache search xine and you'll see what I mean03:58
kkathman!info kaffeine-xine03:59
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ubotukaffeine-xine: (xine engine for kaffeine media player), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.7-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 174 kB, Installed size: 548 kB03:59
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sambagirlwhta i type apt-get xine04:00
sambagirlapt-get xine ?04:00
sambagirlapt-get xine install ?04:01
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kkathmansambagirl: no, 04:03
kkathmansambagirl: xine is not a package04:03
sambagirlok what is then?04:03
sambagirlohh 04:03
kkathmansambagirl: xine-ui is, which is a very primitive player04:03
sambagirlok04:03
sambagirlok04:04
kkathmansambagirl: what do you use for playing music now?04:04
gigcssambagirl:no i want add package xine on  install cd .04:04
kkathmangigcs: you cannot do that04:04
sambagirlyou should ask Seveas or bob204:04
sambagirlin #ubuntu channel04:04
kkathmangigcs: and why do you want to ?04:04
sambagirl;D04:05
kkathmangigcs: you understand that you cannot change the ubuntu install cd, and then redistribute.   You CANNOT do that.04:05
raingroveoh man04:06
raingrovewhat's wrong with the repositories today04:06
kkathmangigcs:  I dont know why you would want to do that anyway.04:06
gigcskkathman: why 04:06
sambagirlis not good thing to do. i not konwing any software that wants original modified and redistributed by outside group 04:06
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kkathmangigcs: Because its against the GNU Public License to do so.04:06
sambagirlbecause if you think about it gigcs everyone would be adding their own thing ot the software cd and it would have no controls to it. each cd version would be different and no one would be able to supprot it04:07
kkathmangigcs:  and theres absolutely no reason to put xine on an install disk :)04:07
gigcskkathman: i understand GNU public license . i use only one.04:07
ice9can anyone help me with k3b 04:08
kkathmansambagirl: and that distrubution would be a "custom" version of Ubuntu, which would then be impossible to control, as you say04:08
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sambagirlsi04:08
gigcskkathman: is  my project .04:09
kkathmangigcs:  then all you need to do, is install ubuntu, then run sudo apt-get xine-ui install04:09
raingroveanyone using KDE 3.5 rc1?04:09
sambagirlwhat you could do gigcs is to crate your own linux version and then distribute it :)04:09
kkathmangigcs:  its not a good project04:09
raingrovegigcs/ xine is not included due to possible patent problems04:09
sambagirlmaybe kkatman can help you since he is finished with his ubuntu product ;)04:09
raingrovegigcs / in other words it's not included because it may not be legal, at least in the US04:10
kkathmansambagirl: lol.. right04:10
kkathmanraingrove: the engine is kewl tho I think04:10
kkathmanraingrove: just the player has some probs,  but even then, its in the standard repos04:10
raingroveby default ubuntu can't play mp3.04:11
kkathmankaffeine can04:11
raingrovewith "right" packages intalled:)04:11
raingrovekkathman/ are you really 52 years old04:12
kkathmanraingrove: what I did when I was in hoary, was install kaffeine-xine, changed the engine in kaffeine and I could play them as much as I wanted.04:12
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ICE9can anyone help me with k3b ? 04:12
kkathmanraingrove: yes why?04:12
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kkathmanraingrove: not sure where you got that, but thats ok :)04:12
raingrovewow you are kidding arent ya04:12
kkathmanuhm... well, no :)04:13
raingroveand you use linux04:13
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gigcskkathman: can i help you .04:13
kkathmanraingrove: I have three linux boxes here at home along with 5 win boxes04:13
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kkathmangigcs: I doubt it04:13
raingrovekkathman, yeah athlon 64 2gb ram04:14
sherdogHey all04:14
raingrovekkathman, my god. u are cool04:14
raingrovekkathman, you listen to metal?!04:14
kkathmanraingrove: well, thanx :) appreciate that :)04:14
kkathmanraingrove: at times :)04:14
sherdogIs the only difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu KDE and gnome? :)04:14
raingrovesherdog/ yeah. 04:15
kkathmansherdog: kubuntu is classically KDE + ubuntu without gnome04:15
sherdograingrove Just as stabile and such04:15
kkathmansherdog: but you can have both04:15
sherdogThx both!04:15
sherdogReally preciate it04:15
kkathmansherdog: I have both04:15
raingrovei installed ubuntu, then installed kubuntu with apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:15
sherdogNice..04:16
kkathmanraingrove: ditto..the best way actually04:16
sherdogI just want it for my laptop04:16
kkathmanthat way you always have a backup GUI04:16
raingrovei removed GNOME today though04:16
kkathmanbut you can install kubuntu then apt get install ubuntu-desktop, too04:16
raingroveinstead, i installed xfce404:16
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raingrovewhich is04:17
raingroveapt-get install xubuntu-desktop04:17
kkathmanraingrove:  yah theres actuall (x)ubuntu now04:17
kkathmanright04:17
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sherdogWell, I am to busy with school to get into Linux, and Ubuntu was easier to install than WinXP, so.. ;)04:17
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kkathmansherdog: true :)04:18
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sherdogkkathman :)04:18
exxeciao chi ni da un sources.list fatto bene per aggiornare la kubuntu?04:19
sherdogAnd never again will Billy G get any of my money! Damn pirate..04:19
kkathmanexxe: English only, please04:19
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kkathmanhehe04:19
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garuxhello all.. is this the proper channel to ask a few questions?04:20
sherdoggarux :)04:21
garuxi was talking last night to robotgeek04:21
garuxi have issues with my wireless card04:21
kkathmangarux: sure ask away04:21
kkathmanrobotgeek is the man to help you on that for sure04:21
garuxits an MN-520 card04:22
garuxit works with Fedora from the getgo, but doesnt in the buntu04:22
garuxim new to linux, so im basically trying to avoid the hassle of using the wrapper04:22
bl3ssinghow can I install plugins for flash?04:23
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bl3ssingI can't see flash files on the net?04:23
bl3ssing;(04:23
garuxblessing.. macromedia.com04:23
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bl3ssingnot the right answer, garux.04:23
bl3ssingI'd love another one ... 04:24
bl3ssing:-)04:24
garuxits the best place to get the plugins for flash04:24
kkathmangarux: this might help..look toward the bottom http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=118804:24
garuxflash is macromedias product04:24
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bl3ssingreally?04:24
garuxunless you are asking HOW to install it, which someone else migth ahve to help you with.04:24
kkathmangarux theres no problem installing the flash plugin04:24
paul__hi... i just stumbled upon the fact that there are different servers for apt-get, adept or synaptic - how do i choose which ones to use, are there priorities, security issues...? where can i get some info on that?04:24
sambagirlI thgought KKathman was the developer of Flash too?04:25
kkathmanvery funny sambagirl :)04:25
bl3ssinglol sambagirl04:25
garuxtaking a look now kkathman - thnks04:25
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sambagirllol04:25
garuxblessing is asking a question bout it.04:25
garuxi was just trying to help someone else in return04:25
dipnlikpaul__: all available servers are equally reliable, at least in theory04:26
dipnlikpaul__: choose servers physically closer to you04:26
kkathmanbl3ssing: I would suggest you Google HowTo Flash Plugin for Ubuntu and see that there are many entries to help you04:27
garuxyah kathman... theres literally a thousand articles like that04:27
paul__dipnlik: it'S just that the professor i'm administrating the machine of wants a certain app (supercollider), which he says his home installation of kubuntu could find via synaptic, whereas i can't find it04:27
kkathmanits not obscure04:27
garuxthey all never get the problem fixed, but its all older versions04:27
garuxnoting on the new kubuntu04:27
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raingroveis anyone using kde 3.5 rc104:28
kkathmanraingrove: I think a few people are04:28
raingrovedo u think i should give it a spin04:28
kkathmanraingrove: I wouldnt, its still really buggy04:28
dipnlikpaul__: compare your /etc/apt/sources.list with his, tell him to sudo apt-get update04:28
kkathmanraingrove:  but if you are into beta testing and all that, feel free04:29
paul__dipnlik: ok... that'S what i thought about, too04:29
raingrovekkathman/ i guess i will try:04:29
bl3ssinghow to unpack a file fromt he shell? I've this file marius.tgz in the tmp folder and I can't unpack it ... how can I do it ...?04:29
kkathmandipnlik: I suspect there may be 2 versions of ubuntu, and this package might have been in something other than a standard repo :)04:29
dipnlikbl3ssing: tar xvfz file.tgz04:30
kkathmanbl3ssing: man tar04:30
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dipnlikkkathman: hm, will look into mu sources.list04:30
bl3ssingkkathman: about google anyone knows ... if you know about flash plugin, why wouldn't you say anything? I'm not speaking personally to you, but to anyone who does know ... I really appreciate if they will say something ...04:30
bl3ssing:-)04:30
kkathmanbl3ssing: because you learn by reading and discovering04:30
kkathmanbl3ssing: not by having someone get you the answer to everything04:31
garuxok this might be a rather silly question,  doe linux keep driver files organized in the same manner as windows does?04:31
bl3ssingnot right kkathman; i used to teach students and ... they were pretty smart after I said to them things I had to ... not after letting them loosing time by searching ...04:31
garuxblessing.04:31
kkathmangarux: to an extent yes04:31
kkathmanbl3ssing: you have no idea04:31
garuxthere are 2 ways to install the plugin, through the browser, and by downloading and installing the application04:31
bl3ssingthanks garux04:32
bl3ssingthis was very simple04:32
bl3ssinghow about the next commands?04:32
bl3ssingI'm a newbie ... in linux,not in windows.04:32
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dipnlikbl3ssing: DIY :)04:32
kkathmanbl3ssing: which you could have gotten had you simply looked at the wiki04:32
bl3ssingin windows i'm an expert.04:32
garuxblessing, i myself am a newbie.04:32
bl3ssingLOL04:32
raingroveble3ssing: what broser do u use04:32
bl3ssingmozilla04:32
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garuxbut im would say that macromedia will have the info on their site04:32
bl3ssingraingrove: 04:32
raingrovebl3ssing, just go to any website that uses flash , then firefox will ask u whether u want flash installed04:33
raingroveclick yes. and u are done04:33
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kkathmanraingrove: again correct, and thats in the wiki04:33
bl3ssingok ... but macromedia doesn't have info only about the plugisn ... but about more things too ... how about the flash, swf, dreamweaver ... and so on.04:33
bl3ssing;)04:33
bl3ssingreally?04:33
kkathmanbl3ssing: try the wiki next time and you might get the answer to your question without asking :)04:33
bl3ssingwow ... cool raingrove 04:33
bl3ssingthanks ... man/girl.04:33
raingrovebl3ssing, wiki's helpful, really04:33
garuxflash comes as a plugin and as the actual application to create flash04:34
bl3ssingyeap, kkathman ... thanks for advicing. I know wiki... [ME]  just a little bit lazy04:34
bl3ssing:-)04:34
garuxthe plugin lets you view flash files inside and outside your browser.04:34
bl3ssingI'm trying the easiest way of finding anythin.04:34
garuxand take it from another linux newbie.04:34
kkathmanbl3ssing: yes I suspected that...please try researching first04:34
garuxyou cant be lazy, you HAVE to read04:34
kkathmanbl3ssing: you will learn more that way04:34
bl3ssinglol garux.04:34
garuxor you will do a lot of reading...04:34
garuxeither way its all good.04:35
garuxim not sure what iver learnt04:35
bl3ssinghey guys ... I know what you mean. I am a lazy boy! Nobody can take me off of my chair! :-)04:35
bl3ssingLOL04:35
bl3ssinggreat people ... thanks for advicing. Anything's welcome ... to me.04:35
garuxso kathman, i have an idea on how to get the drivers into kubuntu04:35
garuxwould it work if i took the working drivers from fedora?04:35
kkathmangarux: which drivers?04:35
garuxfor the wireless card.04:35
garuxit works under fedora with no problems at all04:36
kkathmangarux: uhm...maybe04:36
bl3ssingGod bless [look at my nickname ... bl3ssing]  everyone! Love you guys.04:36
kkathmangarux: I have heard that alien can read RPMs but I dont know that much about it04:36
garuxwell thats why i asked the question about driver folers04:36
kkathmangarux: can you find out what driver you need and see if there is a deb?04:37
garuxive looked for 2 days04:37
kkathmangarux: hmm04:37
garuxbut i know in windows. i can pull all the files out ofthe folder dump them in anotehr machine and it will install04:37
garuxi just dont know how linux attaches itself to hardware, whether it uses the .inf and other files04:38
garuxim really just thinking out loud.04:38
raingroveweird04:38
kkathmangarux: try this?? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&postid=1310716#post131071604:38
raingrovemy wifi didnt wokr in fedora04:38
garuxbecause i really want to give kubuntu a go, but its useless without that card working04:38
raingrovebut it worked in ubuntu04:38
raingrovewhat card are u using04:38
garuxwanna trade cards rain?04:39
kkathmanraingrove: hes using a MN-52004:39
raingrovedo sudo iwconfig and tell me if ur card is recognized04:39
garuxim using an mn-52004:39
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garuxits not recognized at all04:39
garuxi dont even have that installation anymore04:39
kkathmangarux: try that link I just gave you04:39
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garuxim installing fedora 4 again to see if my theory is just a theory LOL04:39
garuxthats the one i read before.04:40
garuxit doesnt solve his problem04:40
garuxmine is identical04:40
garuxthe computer SEES the card physically and gives it power04:40
kkathmanI think there's definitely a prob if its not being detected04:40
garuxand it even receives hits from the other wireless cards04:40
garuxits just not seeing linux and making friends04:40
garuxbut rain, that card works perfectly in fedora 404:41
kkathmanis it on the main board or a PCMCIA ?04:41
garuxit pulls almost 200k faster than my windoze laptop sitting right next to it04:41
garuxpcmcia04:41
garuxit runs the prism chipset04:42
kkathmandunno then04:42
garuxi could throw it against the wall04:42
arthurbHi, should something show up when I point konq to media:/04:42
garuxbut thats my windoze side coming out04:42
garuxi told robotgeek last night04:42
garuxi really would like to run buntu04:42
garuxbecause i was born on the Isle of Man04:43
garuxwhere canonical is based04:43
garuxand id like to learn linux in a solid distro04:43
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garuxfedora 4 is fine, but a bit wicked on the eyes04:43
raingrovegarux/ hmm04:44
raingroveis it a prism2 card04:44
garuxin theory yes04:45
garuxthats the chipset04:45
raingrovethen it's supported04:45
garuxbut not during the install04:45
garuxi did find one thing last night04:45
garuxbut.. i did a typical newbie ting04:45
garuxi add myself to sudoer manually04:46
garuxwithout making sure that root could login04:46
garuxand closed myself out of the system04:46
raingrovewhy  do u do that04:46
garuxand by that time it was 6 in the morning so i just gave up04:46
garuxi did it because im new to linux, and am used to just having control of the machine04:46
garuxfedora doesnt lock out the root by default04:47
garuxi had read the sudo wiki for buntu but just wasnt thinking04:47
raingroveso u are on fc4?04:47
garuxim on a windows machine now04:48
garuxim installing another laptop next to me for linux04:48
garuxthe machine doesnt have anythign on it as of now.04:48
garuxrobotgeek asked me to come back today and ask a few more questions04:49
garuxhe hung in there with me for awhile last night...04:49
kkathmangarux: ubuntu locks out the root for good reason actually04:50
garuxi do understand that...04:51
kkathmangarux: you can always deactivate it, but its not a good idea for the most part04:51
garuxif this was a production or live machine i would avoid04:51
garuxbut i just want to get comfortable with the desktop before i start getting further in04:51
kkathmangarux: theres an inherent safety in not having it,  too many problems are caused because someone forgot they were in root and did something very bad04:52
garuxyah... but my staying out of the command line unless im doing someting specific makes me more concoious of what im doing.04:52
kkathmanhaving to type "sudo" in front of something, makes you consciously aware of what you are doing04:52
garuxit actually distracts me to a degree.04:52
garuxwhen you are totally learning every command as you do it, its just another step you have to remember04:53
kkathmangarux understand, but if you log on in root, doesnt matter if you are on the desktop or in CLI04:53
garuxbut this time around im going to stick with it04:53
garuxwhat is confusing to me is using the sudo while im using gui applications.04:54
kkathmanmost people will say they are "experienced" enough, but I reserve that only to a very small minority of people, and all except for the ops here are NOT in that minority (including me)04:54
garuxoh im experienced at breakin things04:54
garuxand trying to put them back together04:54
kkathmangarux: you shouldnt use sudo for gui apps, use kdesu04:55
garuxyah, i caught on to that after i read the wiki04:55
kkathmanah ok04:55
garuxbut i still dont understand the process very well.. i was real tired last nigth when i was doing it04:56
garuxdoes it hold your sudo in some sort of file so you can open other apps?04:56
garuxor does it just point at each time you open a protected file?04:56
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garuxkathman, i thank you for your help.. .ill be back in a little later to talk to robot04:59
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_simon__hi all05:08
_simon__i tried to get my laptop connected via wlan and WPA, i did everything like it is in the how to but it isn't working, can someone help me?05:08
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bl3ssinghow to install my flash plugin file05:19
bl3ssing?05:19
bl3ssing:-(05:19
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raingrovedoes anyone have latency problems for sounds in Kubuntu?05:22
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bl3ssingno, I had problems ... but not anymore raingrove 05:22
bl3ssing:)05:22
bl3ssinghave you installed the gstream from the Adept?05:23
raingroveit doesnt happen in any other desktop environments05:23
raingroveit has nothing to do with gstream. 05:23
bl3ssingok, what kind of pb do you have raingrove ?05:23
bl3ssingexactly ...?05:23
raingroveevery system sounds play like 0.5 seconds after it's triggered05:23
bl3ssinghow do I install flash ...? 05:24
bl3ssingwow ... I don't know what is happening ... raingrove05:24
bl3ssingthat's a huge bug ...05:24
bl3ssingyou should complain about it to the master of Kubuntu.... 05:24
bl3ssing:-)05:24
bl3ssingthey will probably fix that problem ...05:24
raingrovebut i dont think others have the same problem05:24
bl3ssingI've never heard about i t...05:24
bl3ssingmaybe you've some pbs with the sound card drivers?05:25
bl3ssingwhat kind of sound card do you have raingrove ?05:25
sambagirlyou no can install flash 05:25
sambagirl?05:25
bl3ssingyou no can install flash ... LOL05:25
bl3ssingwhat do you mean ... be more exactly. 05:25
bl3ssingdo you believe that I can't install the flash file or ... that I don't have to ... 05:25
bl3ssing:-)05:25
bl3ssing?05:25
raingroveit only happens with kubuntu, and only with kde on ubuntu.05:25
sambagirli just reading what your saying for this. so i just asking 05:26
raingroveoth er distros are fine05:26
sambagirlhere is a big questoin05:26
sambagirli can do my own distro thing if i so desire, no?05:27
sambagirlwhere i can get source code so i can make my own linux version?05:27
sambagirlnot all answer me at the same time please05:28
raingrovehttp://www.linuxfromscratch.org/05:28
bl3ssinglol ...05:29
sambagirlok 05:29
bl3ssingsambagirl ... you should fine info about the source code on the google.05:29
bl3ssingthere's a planty of sites which offers you a lots of sources codes05:29
bl3ssinglook into the linux.org ...05:29
bl3ssingand linux.com05:29
bl3ssingyou'll find a lots of them.05:29
sambagirli not using others mistakes, i make my own.05:30
bl3ssingstrange raingrove ... 05:30
bl3ssinghave you tried to the gnome?05:30
bl3ssingis it the same acting?05:30
bl3ssingor ...?05:30
raingroveit only happens in kubuntu i said05:30
raingrovehmm05:30
bl3ssingyeap, but kubuntu can have gnome / kde ... desktop environment ... right?05:30
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bl3ssingso ... 05:30
bl3ssingI've asked you if you'll have the gnome one, will you have the same pb?05:31
bl3ssingcause ... it is differnet kde with gnome .. 05:31
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bl3ssinghow can use rar from windows in kubuntu?05:32
raingroveit only happens in kde05:32
raingrovei believe ark can unrar05:33
raingroveor u can use unrar05:33
bl3ssingit might be a bad configuration (a hardware one ...) fail ...05:33
bl3ssingunrar?05:33
bl3ssingwhere can I get this from?05:33
bl3ssingadept does it knows about it?05:33
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stichbonjour a tous05:34
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v-dogg_hmph.05:42
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v-dogg_I still haven't found a good terminal for KDE05:42
IcemanV9what's wrong with kconsole?05:45
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Tm_Tit's Konsole05:46
Tm_T;)05:46
IcemanV9well, pardon my spelling :P05:46
v-dogg_I'm so used to Putty/Nutty that I want to copy and paste easily with mouse05:46
v-dogg_and I don't like copying links, I want to click them05:47
Tm_Thah05:47
Tm_Tnutty hyi05:48
v-dogg_woot?05:48
v-dogg_I like it :)05:48
Tm_Tja Konsole tukee ihan maalaa/keskinappi cpy/pastea05:48
Tm_Toch samma p svenska05:48
v-dogg_how do I enable it?05:49
Tm_Twhat?05:49
v-dogg_copying is not enabled by default05:49
Tm_Tit is05:49
v-dogg_nope, not to clipboard05:49
v-dogg_have to right click -> copy05:50
v-dogg_and secondly, laptop doesn't have middle button05:50
Tm_Tbtw finnish help: #ubuntu-fi or in ircnet: #ubuntu.fi && !kubuntu.fi05:50
v-dogg_oh, splendid05:50
Tm_Tv-dogg_: well, primary selection AND clpboard are two different things05:50
Tm_T+i05:50
v-dogg_don't want them to be :)05:51
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frank23antbody install todays new kernel? any problems?06:03
Tm_Thaven't booted yet06:03
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LeeJunFanv-dogg_: use klipper06:05
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ganymedhallo06:08
kkathmanhowdy LeeJunFan :)06:08
LeeJunFanheya kkathman.06:08
Tm_Thi kkathman and LeeJunFan 06:08
kkathmanhi there Tm_T :)06:08
LeeJunFanhi johnboy.06:09
LeeJunFanerr, hi Tm_T :)06:09
Tm_T:p06:09
Tm_Tshould I rest or should I do html stuff06:09
LeeJunFanOnly old guys like me would get that. :)06:09
LeeJunFanrest is for wusies.06:09
Tm_Tmaybe I take a long break ;)06:10
Tm_TLeeJunFan: and old people like me06:10
kkathmanYou arent old LeeJunFan :)06:10
kkathmanand Tm_T you certainly arent06:10
LeeJunFanI have to fight for the computer here at the nursing home to get on IRC.06:10
LeeJunFan:D06:11
Tm_Tkkathman: what?! how dare you!06:11
Tm_T;--P06:11
kkathmanugh ok..so your ancient then whatever makes you happy06:11
LeeJunFanI'm past 1/3 of the way to a century.06:11
Tm_Tkkathman: thanks, son ;)06:11
kkathmanLeeJunFan:  Im over half :)06:11
bl3ssinghow can use rar from windows in kubuntu?06:11
Tm_Tand I'm older than you two together ;p06:12
Tm_T(I feel)06:12
kkathmanbl3ssing: make sure you have a tool to unrar06:12
Tm_Tanyway, sauna, coffee and rest rest rest ->06:12
naliothbl3ssing: you cant. use unrar.nonfree from the repos06:13
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naliothbl3ssing: most windows zip clients can unzip tar, bz2, gz, rz, and other linux compression formats06:14
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DelvienHmm,, after i update Xorg is using 45 % of my CPU, anyone else experience this ?06:15
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ganymedis there anything "strange" in the apache2 config about the usage of symlinks? 06:18
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kkathmanDelvien: it should be the predominant process yes06:18
Delvienwhat does that mean :P06:19
Delvienthis is after a reboot...06:19
kkathmanDelvien: but mine uses only about 6-16% most of the time06:19
Delvienmines now using 40% all the time..06:20
Delvienright after a update and a reboot06:20
kkathmanDelvien: well right after boot it should be active more..but should settle down if you have enough memory and CPU power06:20
Delvienaye thats what im saying 10 mins in , and CPU usage is still at 79-90%06:20
kkathmanDelvien: hmm thats abnormal I'd say06:21
Delvienyeah god d4mn updates lol06:22
Delvien:P06:22
Delvienteaches me not to do an update :(06:22
kkathmancould still be updating in the background I guess06:22
kkathmanDelvien: did you do the kernel upgrade in today's Adept?06:22
Delvienthis is after a reboot hehe06:22
Delvienaye06:22
kkathmanouch...glad I didnt do that then :)06:22
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Delviennow everything is slow...06:23
Delvientypeing is unresponsicve, this is a problem06:24
kkathmanDelvien: did you do a soft or hard boot ?06:24
Delvienumm log off>restart06:25
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Delvieni never just kick the power off06:25
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Delvienthis is disturbing.. why would they release a broken kernal06:27
kkathmanI doubt that it is a broken kernal06:27
Delvienthen why is it breaking my system06:27
kkathmanperhaps there are other things going on?06:27
DelvienThats the only thing i did . update and reboot, now everything is slow, my CPU is running at full throttle all the time, and CPU % is way up06:28
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skypaDelvien, maybe updatedb munching your cpu? :)06:28
Delvienhow do i check06:29
kkathmanDelvien: are you in kubuntu?06:29
Delvienyes06:29
skypaps fax | grep -c updatedb06:29
bhsxhi, I'm running the original kubuntu build.  When I try to login it starts to go to the WM, then kicks back out to XDM...  any thoughts?06:29
Delviencomes back "1"06:29
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kkathmanDelvien: then run ksysguard and look at your processes and see whats running06:29
skypaalright Delvien, then that's whats going on06:29
Delvienkkathman ksys doesnt show it, but top does show Xorg is taking 40%06:30
skypaa cronjob starts updatedb every day to index your hardrive06:30
Delvienskypa what do i do?06:30
kkathmanskypa has the right answer06:30
skypatry a "sudo killall updatedb"06:30
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kkathmanI was going to have you do a TOP in konsole06:30
Delvienskypa will that hurt anything?06:30
skypait should free up your cpu immediatly06:30
skypano, it just stops the indexing for the time beeing06:30
Delvienah06:30
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Delvienno proc killed06:31
kkathmanDelvien: you can go and reschedule that cron job to run like overnight when you are sleeping too06:31
naliothskypa: IF it's updatecb.06:31
naliothupdatedb is usually run between 2 and 4 am local time06:31
skypayeah, but I just remembered that ps fax | grep updatedb will also give back the grep :/06:31
Delvienkkathman im on a laptop, i dont leave it on overnight06:31
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naliothDelvien: then you may have updatedb run when you first start up06:32
kkathmanDelvien: I leave my laptop on overnight06:32
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Delviennalioth how do i kill it then if killall updatedb doesnt work?06:32
skypawell, do a "top" first as kkathman suggested06:33
skypalet's see if it's really updatedb what uses most cpu time06:33
Delvieni did, Xorg is taking most of my cpu06:33
skypahow much is most?06:33
Delvien40%06:33
naliothDelvien: updatedb is NOT your problem06:33
skypalooks that way, yes06:34
Delvienthis only happend after i did a update06:34
Delvienand rebooted06:34
kkathmanprobably not06:34
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Delvienanyone have an idea?06:35
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kkathmanDelvien: can you look at your box and see if the disk is being accessed alot.. i.e like an LED etc ?06:35
Delvienaye about every second06:35
Delviennever done this before06:36
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Delvienwould it do that after a reboot?06:36
kkathmanwhat does "top" report in a konsole?06:37
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naliothDelvien: give us a top 5 processes06:37
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Delvienk sec06:37
DelvienXorg, kded kicker superkaramba06:38
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Delvienin order 40.5% 2.6% 2% and 0%06:38
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=== kkathman cant think of a reason that Xorg would take up that much resource...mine is only 4% and Ive got 12 desktops and 7 apps running
Delviendoing a virus scan for chits and giggles06:40
skypaoO06:40
Delvienyeah i know.... dont even say it06:41
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skypamaybe it's an ActiveX control going wild :p06:41
Delvienhmm06:41
Delvienshrug*06:41
skypathat's a joke *g*06:41
Delvien:(06:41
DelvienXorg 68%06:41
DelvienCPU at 54 celc.. eww06:42
Delvienoh.. could be that its laying on my bed with the fan covered hehe 06:42
Delvienis there any form of malware for linux?06:43
kkathmannot that I know of06:43
kkathmanskypa:  lol06:43
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slow-motionhallo06:44
Delvienhey06:44
slow-motionhi Delvien 06:45
Delviennalioth any idears?06:45
kkathman54C is only around 129F thats not out of spec at all...esp for an AMD chip06:45
Delvienintel. and i like my CPU 30 celc, 06:45
kkathmanthats prolly not contributing to the prob tho06:45
Delvien65 + gets dangerous06:46
Delvieno i know... i was just saying..06:46
kkathmanmost AMD's are rated ok to around 80-85C06:46
Delvienafter this is done scanning ill try a reboot again06:46
Delvienthats crazy !06:46
kkathmancourse you dont wanna tempt that :)06:46
Delvienyeah06:46
Delvienyou could have a very expensive heater on your hands :P06:47
kkathmanbut its not abnormal to see chips at 46-50C easy06:47
kkathmanwell within spec06:48
Delvienin windows mine barely reaches 30celc, surfing web, playing music06:48
Delvienfan on low low low06:48
Delvienbarely hear it06:48
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kkathmanthose are pretty low resources really...try compiling :) hehe06:48
Delvienbut i dont like windows.. so i do all that kinda stuff here. :)) 06:48
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Delvienmy CPU in kubuntu stays at around 37 C06:49
kkathmanI need a better fan...mine stays at around 46-50 never above06:49
Delvienwhat thermal glue do you have?06:50
kkathmanwhatever came with the CPU06:50
Delvienah06:50
kkathmanbut its a stock fan06:50
kkathmanI need to change out06:50
Delvienon a laptop correct?06:50
kkathmannono06:50
kkathmanmy desktop06:50
Delvienoh06:50
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Delvienwell while you are switching your fan, might as well apply some Arctic Silver 5 to your CPU/heatsink06:51
kkathmanhehe nal06:51
Delvienbrb gonna s=do a shut down , see if that helps06:52
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Delvienits still doing it.. 06:59
DelvienGRRR06:59
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Delvienany way of seeing what Xorg is doing?07:03
naliothDelvien: use 'top' or ksysguard07:04
kkathmannalioth: but I dont think that tells him what Xorg is specifically doing07:05
kkathmanjust tells him what processes are running07:05
kkathmanDelvien: what other applications are you running right now?07:06
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Delviennothing07:06
Delvienafk 10 mins07:06
kkathmanyou have no other things listed in ksysguard except Xorg?07:07
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ganymedhi. is there a pentium m adapted precompiled ubuntu kernel inlcuding some precompiled modules like fglrx and so on?07:07
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kkathmanganymed: probably not, you need to use the i386 I'd guess07:08
ganymedso everything by hand, i guess...07:09
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kkathmanganymed: wont work with the 386 core?07:09
ganymedit does... but i tried a self-compiled trial kernel... runs better, at least subjectively07:10
zynganymed: tried apt-cache search fglrx yet? linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-686 matches...07:11
kkathmanI dont know of any distributions that are for Pentium M only07:11
pussfellergentoo might have optimization flags for that07:12
pussfellerits hard to tell what makes gentoo faster, the gcc optimizations or not having a zillion deamons running in the background07:12
ganymedcould have been, that there is an adapted kernel... and i am using fglrx, it's fine... i just wanted to get around its nasty compilation process....07:12
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ganymedabout speed: has anybody ever compared win* with kubuntu, for example... i have both here, and though i like kubuntu more, my win* is considerably faster...07:13
skypadefine "faster"07:14
ganymedwell, starting and shutting down, of course. and also during normal work. somehow, my linux system is "lacking" a bit. i mean, it looks ways better than win*, but it reacts very slowly, even with 1800 MHz...07:15
ganymedlagging, sorry07:15
naliothganymed: linux is not a 'user" OS, it is designed to start once and stay going for months and years at a time07:16
skypaI pushed my boot time from bios to login screen to around 20 seconds07:16
pussfelleri think windows gets more bang for the buck 07:17
ganymedwith initng? or with a "linux-bios"?07:17
skypathere is no such thing as a "linux bios" :p07:17
ganymedi know that. i can deal with that. but kde is designed to be a user frontend...07:17
pussfellerat least initially, it seems like after a bit of actual use and installation of programs, windows starts slowing down07:17
skypaI just used bootchart to examine what exactly happens during boot and turned a few things off07:17
ganymedyou know what i mean...07:17
ganymedbootchart... i have to keep that in mind.07:18
pussfellerwhat is the services editor called07:19
pussfelleror the init editor07:19
ganymedand also... when i start some admin progs... nothing happens sometimes. i click again, and it works...07:19
skypaI personally think the default (k)ubuntu installation is far from perfect07:20
skypait needed a sh*tload of tweaking to fully fit my preferences07:20
ganymedbut do also have this "double starting". just a moment ago i started adept-updater... and nothing happened, just loading. i start it again, and it works.07:21
skypabut oh well, that might just be my personal perception :)07:21
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pussfellerwhat is bootchart07:22
pussfelleror where07:22
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skypabootchart is a tool, that is started through an appendix to the kernel boot parameters07:23
ganymedi have asked myself the same question07:23
skypait starts init07:23
skypaand then examines what processes do and how long they do it at boot time07:23
skypapretty nifty tool, but as far as I can see "only" available in the debian repository07:23
ganymedhas anybody tried initng on a debian machine?07:24
skypabut it should install fine in ubuntu :)07:24
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ganymedok, got to go. ciao. thx a lot07:25
slicslakanyone know of a gui frontend for pppoe (adsl)?07:26
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Delvienback07:48
Delvienkkathman does it matter that my machine is running i686? instead of 386? 07:49
Delviennot on anymore okie...07:50
Delviennalioth does that matter?07:50
naliothDelvien: it shouldnt matter at all07:50
Delvienkk07:50
Delvienthis is frustrating...07:50
Delvieni cant figure it out07:50
kkathmanDelvien: no it shouldnt matter07:51
Delvienomg07:52
Delvienit was super karamba07:52
Delvienthe intevals were too low i guess07:52
kkathmanwhat kinds of things are you running in SK?07:53
Delvieni made my own theme, its a system monitor, 07:53
Delvienguess its just too much info on one thing..07:53
Delvienshut down SK and it goes down to 1.7% for Xorg CPU 07:54
kkathmanHmm Failed to mention that before Delvien?? Hmm07:55
kkathmanDelvien: However Im running 2 SK applets and im still only using a total of about 4% CPU07:55
Delvienwell SK was only taking 3% before.. all the code inside the .theme must be run by Xorg.07:55
Delvienkkathman my theme has a crapload of stuff on it ,07:55
naliothDelvien: you have to pay for your eye candy07:56
Delvienaye07:56
Delvienhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3103807:56
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Delvienguess i have to make a "lite" version07:57
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_divanHey everyone! Does anyone know if there is a frontend to control an pppoe/adsl connection? I'm using pppoeconf to dial but its not great because not very user friendly for my mom.Any ideas?08:05
skypa_what about KPPP ?08:06
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FastElbowon gnome no but kppp works fine on the kde[17:36]  <EngiBenchi> online08:06
skypa_well, this is #kubuntu, I assume he uses kde :p08:06
FastElbowoops08:07
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_divanskype:I've tried KPPP but it only does dialup modems not pppoe connections(i think)... :(08:09
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_divanhehe08:09
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skypa_oh, sorry then _divan :/08:12
_divanAnyone? Its seems wierd they have good dialup support for modems but not pppoe connections? Darn :/08:12
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Delvienhmm seems icons and background screens is what takes su much CPU power... wierd08:16
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sampandivan, once the dsl connection is configured, isn't it just pon dsl-provider at CLI? 08:17
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Delviennalioth it was the background of the theme that took so much CPU .. i dont know why, you would think that would be a simple enough task to do.. display a .png08:24
naliothmighta been a non standard png 08:26
Delvienyeah had a border and stuff, was transarency 50%08:27
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jochoamigos de kubuntu, alghuien sabe como instalar flah para konqueror?08:32
kkathmanjocho: Ingles solomente por favor08:33
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apokryphosSpanish?08:34
kkathmanyes08:34
Tm_Tmuy bien08:35
kkathmanjocho: por Espanol, #kubuntu-es08:35
jochook08:35
jochothanks08:35
kkathman:)08:35
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jochoi can't connect kubuntu-es08:42
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jochocan you help a newbie?08:42
cvardaris there a list of repositiories? or anybody know a repository in ukraine?08:43
kkathmanplease ask your question and we'll try08:43
jochook, i have a trouble in konkeror with flash plug in .... sorry for may english...08:43
kkathmanjocho, your english is better than my spanish08:44
FastElbow /join #kubuntu-se08:45
cvardaranybody can tell be abou repository addresses?08:45
kkathmancvardar: I dont know if there are ukranian repos08:45
jpatrickFastElbow: it's #kubuntu-es08:45
jpatrickhi kkathman08:46
kkathmanhi jpatrick :)08:46
FastElbowthnx08:46
naliothubotu: tell cvardar about easysource08:46
kkathmanjocho what kind of problem do you have with flash in Konqueror?08:46
jochoi istalled the flash whith adept and in konqueror put found for new plugins, but it dosen't read any new08:46
jochokubuntu-es is down08:47
jpatrickjocho: no it isn't08:48
cvardari am looking for a debian package to download to connect to vpn. i need it before i will install kubuntu, because i wil not be able to access internet without vpn. any advises?08:49
jochoit says connection failed, trying to reconect08:49
kkathmanjocho you can see the flash player under "plugins" in your Konqueror setup?08:49
jochono08:50
jochoonly netscape plgin08:51
kkathmanjocho what happens when you scan for plugins?08:52
jochoit take only few seconds but any new things found08:52
naliothtodo el comienzo de los canales del IRC con #08:52
kkathmanthat netscape plugin should show something like a path + libflashplayer.so08:52
kkathmanif Konqueror doesnt see that, then you didnt get it installed08:53
jochook, i dont knew that... thanks, kubuntu-es show up08:53
kkathmanmuy bueno nalioth :)08:53
jochoas i said i'am really new in this stuff08:54
jochothanks08:54
gerardocbit's me, or Yahoo! messenger isn't working in Kopete?08:55
jpatrickgerardocb: blame it on the server08:55
gerardocbUh?08:55
jpatrickthe yahoo server08:56
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gerardocbsure08:56
gerardocbI just want to know if it's a problem of me, or it's a protocol issue08:57
naliothsomos todos nuevos en algo08:57
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gerardocbOk... let me ask again:08:58
whoiam55hello08:58
jpatrickwhoiam55: hello there08:58
gerardocbDoes somebody has (since today) problems with Yahoo Messenger on Kopete?08:58
kkathmannalioth: verdad :)08:59
jpatricktu lo puedes!!!08:59
whoiam55hi patrick, I just finished patching my kernel, seems faster. is there any kind of banchmark available for testing kernel performance ?08:59
jpatrick:/09:00
whoiam55I mean to say testing system performance :p09:00
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mariej #kubuntu-fr09:08
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stupid_computermy mplayer plugin wont play half the vids i try to stream, i have to open mplayer and load the vid from my tmp dir to get it to play,any clue on how to fix it?09:10
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claudiuhello guys09:42
Aapzaklo09:42
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claudiuis there a bug in latest debtags package in dapper ?09:42
naliothclaudiu: yes, there is09:42
claudiuhm nalioth is there really ? 09:43
naliothclaudiu: you are not the first to notice09:43
claudiunalioth: okay so what do we have to do ?09:43
naliothclaudiu: but you have no room to complain, dapper is very early in the release cycle and is going to get more broken b4 it smooths out09:44
claudiunalioth: more broken ????09:44
claudiuwhy is that ?09:44
naliothclaudiu: friend, dapper development just started about 4 weeks ago09:45
naliothclaudiu: it is very beta stuff09:45
naliothclaudiu: you use it, you find bugs, you search bugzilla.ubuntu.com for the bug, and if it's not there , you add it09:45
claudiunalioth: i hope it gets better not worst09:46
claudiunalioth: i think its a packaging problem not a software thing09:46
claudiunalioth: i mean the debtags09:46
naliothclaudiu: search for and/or file a bug09:46
claudiunalioth: if i stick to breezy i cant get latest software, can i ?09:47
jjessewhat do you mean by latest software claudiu 09:47
claudiujjesse: i mean most fresh xine and stuff09:48
naliothclaudiu: ubuntu releases a stable distro every 6 months, how new do you need your stuff?09:48
jjesseagree nalioth 09:48
jjessebreezy already has packages for kde 3.5 rc109:48
jjesseyou want newwer then that?09:48
claudiunalioth: well i would like something like gentoo ~x8609:49
naliothclaudiu: backports will be filling in shortly09:49
claudiuhey jjesse how come i dont get those kde35 even if i update daily to dapper ?09:50
claudiunalioth: teach me pls how to revert to breezy - I WANT KDE3509:51
naliothclaudiu: i'm afraid there is no way to revert. you can resize a partition and install breezy and move your personal data over from the dapper partition,tho09:52
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BlankC!pastebin09:53
ubotuI heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:53
claudiunalioth: i eliminated all dapper lines in sources.lst and did update, waiting now to see what happens09:54
naliothclaudiu: i expect you to have a mucked system09:55
claudiunalioth: hope not :(09:57
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claudiunalioth: are there any updates for breezy anymore, until dapper gets official ?09:58
naliothclaudiu: officially, there are security updates. backports will be available soon09:59
jjessebreezy should be updated as bugs/issues are solved as far as i know09:59
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claudiujjesse: i mean if mplayer or koffice has a new release will i see it in breezy or i must wait for dapper ?10:00
Chousukewait, or install backports.10:00
naliothclaudiu: you may see lots of things in backports10:00
enriqueHI all10:00
enriqueI need some help10:01
claudiunalioth: ok i got it now10:01
enriquesomebody know how to uninstall kde 3.5 and retorn to kde stable10:01
enrique?10:01
claudiunalioth: in case of reinstalling kubuntu , i want to avoid downloading again most packages. What should I save from root partition ?10:02
naliothclaudiu: there is not much to save, except your home directory data10:05
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ilredshi10:11
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ilredsi have problems with amule10:12
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ilredswhen i start amule, after phew minutes it crash with this log: can't write to file descriptor 15 (error 5: Input/output error)   info: Could not create backup of '/media/archivio/temp/004.part.met' (error 5: Input/output error)10:13
KnowerrorsHi all, when you're at a tty console and do ps -aux or ls, and the list is too long to view on one page, how do you make the output one page at a time?10:14
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skypapipe it to less10:14
skypaps fax | less10:14
kkathmanKnowerrors: pip with less10:14
skypals | less10:14
kkathmanhehe10:14
skypafast, faster, skypa10:15
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skypa:p10:15
kkathmanlol10:15
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skypaheh10:15
kkathmanjust washed my hands tho and couldnt do anything with em10:15
skypawas nice to see that less has been included in ubuntu btw.. debian still sticks with "more" by default10:16
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Knowerrorsskypa: thx, just tried | less , someone in ubuntu suggested | more , which seems nicer10:18
skypamore seems nicer?10:18
Knowerrorsthe display is easier to read10:18
Knowerrorsformat10:18
skypa*mumble.mumble*10:19
Knowerrorsactually, they both seem bout the same... can anybody tell me why more or less is better than each other10:20
skypaLess is a program similar to more (1), but which allows  backward  movement10:21
skypa       in  the file as well as forward movement.  Also, less does not have to read10:21
skypa       the entire input file before starting, so with large input files it  starts10:21
skypa       up faster than text editors like vi (1)10:21
skypa(c) man less10:21
skypa;)10:21
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Phantom^^Hi can someone help me I have a few problems i would like to fix :D10:22
Knowerrorsnice, like that backward moving ability :)10:22
skypashoot Phantom :>10:22
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skypabloody root :p10:23
Phantom^^ok10:25
Phantom^^first off the easy one10:25
Phantom^^I think i have forgotten my password for kdewallet10:25
Phantom^^is there anyway i can reset kdewallet to start from scratch ?10:25
arthurbHi, can konq recursively download a website ?10:25
Phantom^^me = dumb with linux lol10:26
tobyDoes anyone know a way to monitor the throughput on the USB bus whilst I copy a file to SD Card?10:27
toby(via cardreader)10:27
Phantom^^I think I have solved it10:28
chaoticgeekarg10:29
chaoticgeek45 min till I leave10:29
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Phantom^^Ok heres my second problem I'm in university halls and I have an http proxy and i think some others that I have to use but i'm sick of entering them into various programs and doing export http_proxy everytime I want to do apt-get etc... Is there anyway I can kind of globally set kde or linux as a hole to use the same proxies so I don't have to keep doing the above?10:30
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robotgeekPhantom^^: you can put it in your .bashrc10:33
Knowerrorsskypa: any ideas why KsCD autoplay would stop working?10:33
skypakde 3.5?10:33
Knowerrors3.410:34
skypamh, I don't know what handled the autplay in 3.4, sorry10:34
skypa+o10:35
Knowerrorsall I did was edit "/etc/ivman/IvmConfigActions.xml" to remove konq auto-open feature10:35
Knowerrorsper this thread: http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php?topic=1187.010:35
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Knowerrorsdisabled the konq part in that file, but left the kscd part unchanged10:36
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Phantom^^one question can people actually see what i'm typing cos i'm not even sure I have irc working correctly?10:39
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_pierresalut!10:44
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skypaanyone got a nvidia twindisplay setup here?10:46
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skypaI was wondering how to change gamma for each monitor10:46
tikynvidia driver?10:46
skypasi senor10:46
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tiky( i am french :) ) : you go to www.nvidia.com for dl nvidia driver for linux10:47
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skypaer, I'm using the binary drivers already and it works fine10:48
raphinktiky: if you're french, you can join #kubuntu-fr :)10:48
papohello everyone.  I have tried to update my kubuntu and this is what happened:10:48
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skypajust my shabby left monitor is way too dark, and I didn't find a way to adjust the gamma seperatly yet :/10:48
tikyelse you install deb nvidia in synaptic10:48
papopapo> /var/cache/apt/archives/xrgb_0.99.0-5_i386.deb10:48
papo[22:46]  <papo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)10:48
tikyoh oki10:49
tikyconfig with nvidia-settings10:49
papoany idea to solve this?10:49
skypatried.. just lets me change the gamma for both monitory the same amount10:50
tikypapo what is command?10:50
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tikywhat is your command?10:50
tikydpkg....10:50
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papono apt-get10:51
l3mpapo: paste the whole error into kubuntu.pastebin.com10:51
papodist-upgrade10:51
benkong2I have a home server with a dyndns ip do I really want a DNS server? I need help understanding why or why not?10:51
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tikyfrskypa??10:52
tikyfrit's ok?10:52
skypaI wish ;)10:52
skypanope, nvidia-settings does not let me change the gamma for _each_ monitor10:52
tikyfreuh wish??? lol :)10:52
tikyfroki10:53
skypasee what my problem is? :)10:53
tikyfri am very bad in english lol very sorru10:53
tikyfrsorry10:53
tikyfrbye10:54
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skypaI don't mind.. my french isn't to good either :p10:54
Blissexbenkong2: you don't really need a home DNS server, your ISP's usually is good enough.10:57
benkong2Blissex, ok thanks I was trying to decide got kubuntu installed and using the ispconfig docs10:58
benkong2Blissex, I think I can leave it out and do just fine10:58
Blissexbenkong2: yes, most people do leave it out.10:59
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benkong2Blissex, alright now if I can get the rest of it up and running i'll be happy10:59
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Phantom^^hey can someone help me set up kubuntu to work with a university http proxy ?11:07
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jochohelp with flash versus konqueror11:12
jochostill can't tune up11:12
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LightcyclerIf you ask konqueror to "edit a file in kate" for example (where that file is on an FTP connection), and by the time kate gets around to opening it, the temporary local file has already been deleted by something, what might be the problem?11:28
JuerdLightcycler: I have no idea, but I experience the same thing. Highly annoying.11:35
BlissexPhantom^^: usually you set up individual browsers for that, usually there is a menu for that.11:37
BlissexPhantom^^: like in Konqueror11:37
Phantom^^yeah11:38
Phantom^^I was thinking of trying to do it in like some linux user config file so It does it blanket for everything, it saves complications and muddles etc11:39
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red-sox_awayhi11:41
Red-Soxksmoothdock isnt exactly working for me11:41
Red-Soxwhen I magnify, it er....well....it shows.....its hard to explain11:42
naliothRed-Sox: it is beta software. you are on your own11:43
Red-Soxnalioth, hmph11:43
naliothRed-Sox: you can tweak the prefs and get rid of that "'it's hard to explain" effect11:43
naliothRed-Sox: right click on it11:43
Red-Soxnalioth, no, iv got that11:43
Red-Soxnalioth, ill give u a screenshot11:44
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naliothRed-Sox: if it doesnt refresh properly when you roll over it, i know what it looks like11:45
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Red-Soxnalioth, oh, that is the problem11:45
naliothRed-Sox: right clck on the prefs and change the config11:45
Red-Soxk11:46
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Red-Soxnalioth, what setting is it?11:47
kkathmanRed-Sox: mine is fine...dont choose parabolic11:47
Red-Soxkkathman, it quote from nalioth: doesnt refresh properly11:47
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Knowerrorsanybody know of a kde window decoration thats super small or hideable?11:49
Knowerrorswant to get rid of that title bar and buttons, or at least make em tiny thin11:50
Flixor-you could always hide the window decoration 11:51
Red-Soxnalioth, how do you change it?11:51
Flixor-click with right on the window decoration 11:51
Flixor-and there is an option hide 11:51
naliothRed-Sox: right click on the bar and uncheck parabolic, like kkathman said11:52
Red-Soxoohhh11:52
kkathmanRed-Sox: mine works fine, exept occasionally the graphics get smeared with other windows..just keep all your other windows above it11:52
Red-SoxI GIVE UP!11:53
Red-Soxits no good11:53
Red-Soxon my computer11:53
kkathmanRed-Sox: do you have a 686 computer?11:53
KnowerrorsFlixer, I cant find that where to hide them11:54
naliothRed-Sox: it's no good on any computer, cuz it's very very rough software11:54
kkathmannalioth: it works fine on my box :)11:54
Knowerrorswhat do you mean right click on window decoration, you mean on the titlebar?11:54
kkathmanIm using it exclusively now11:54
Flixor-yes Knowerrors 11:56
Flixor-and then go to advance Knowerrors and there is the option 11:56
neoncodeHey... 3D and any kind of 2D accelaration on my linux machene only works on one monitor (I have a dual-head setup) and is slow and crappy.11:56
neoncodeAny advice?11:56
KnowerrorsFlixor-: you mean "no border"?11:56
Flixor-yes Knowerrors, or was that not what you meant11:57
Knowerrorsyeah, thats great... is there a way to enable that permanently/universally on all new programs/windows?11:57
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Red-Soxkkathman, 686? what is that?11:58
Flixor-ehm 11:58
kkathmanRed-Sox: when you did your checkinstall, if you have a 686, powerpc or 64-bit, and you dont tell the checkinstall, that could be problems.11:59
Flixor-ehm that i dont know Knowerrors, but if you set it for an application it will stay even if you reboot, but only for that application11:59
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Knowerrorsnice, so just set it once for each app and it will stay that way til I change it back, thx12:00
Red-Soxkkathman, er...right12:00
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