[03:44] <jsgotangco> hiya
[03:51] <mdke> lo
[03:56] <jsgotangco> hey mdke how's things?
[03:56] <mdke> jsgotangco, busy, but fine. Yourself?
[03:58] <jsgotangco> cramming a bit
[03:59] <jjesse> did my last message go through?
[03:59] <jjesse> mdke: were you looking for me yesterdya/
[03:59] <jjesse> ?
[04:00] <mdke> jjesse, yes: can you remove the serverguide in the kubuntu folder? it is present in the generic folder
[04:00] <jjesse> sure
[04:00] <mdke> i couldn't figure out how to remove it, you seem to have added it in a strange way that I am not familiar with
[04:01] <jjesse> i just did a svn copy /generic/serverguide to /kubuntu/serverguide
[04:01] <jjesse> is that the right way?
[04:03] <mdke> it should be, but it has done something weird
[04:03] <mdke> see if svn rm works
[04:04] <mdke> for me, it removed it, but then did something screwy with the version control and I couldnt' commit it
[04:05] <jjesse> Deleting       serverguide
[04:05] <jjesse> svn: Commit succeeded, but other errors follow:
[04:05] <jjesse> svn: Error bumping revisions post-commit (details follow):
[04:05] <jjesse> svn: Working copy '/home/jjesse/ubuntu-docs/repos/trunk/kubuntu' is missing or not locked
[04:05] <jjesse> svn: Your commit message was left in a temporary file:
[04:05] <jjesse> svn:    '/home/jjesse/ubuntu-docs/repos/trunk/kubuntu/serverguide/svn-commit.tmp'
[04:05] <jjesse> is that what you were getting?
[04:05] <mdke> no, that looks even worse
[04:05] <mdke> :)
[04:06] <mdke> i get this: http://pastebin.com/436175
[04:07] <mdke> the last line appears to be the problem
[04:07] <mdke> then this if I do "svn status"
[04:07] <mdke> matt@kalliope:~/ubuntu/ubuntu-docs/trunk/kubuntu$ svn status
[04:07] <mdke> X      serverguide
[04:07] <mdke> Performing status on external item at 'serverguide'
[04:07] <mdke> D      serverguide
[04:07] <mdke> etc
[04:08] <mdke> jjesse, you just removed generic/serverguide
[04:08] <mdke> that is bad
[04:08] <jjesse> doh i didn't mean to 
[04:09] <mdke> let's revert that
[04:09] <jjesse> ok
[04:09] <jsgotangco> horay
[04:10] <mdke> who is going to revert it?
[04:13] <mdke> ok i'm doing it
[04:13] <mdke> no one else do it at the same time :D
[04:13] <jjesse> sorry had several work calls :(
[04:16] <mdke> ok i think i've fixed the serverguide thing
[04:16] <mdke> seems you added an external property
[04:17] <mdke> no idea what that is
[04:17] <mdke> like a symlink for svn I guess
[04:18] <jjesse> mdke: i have no clue how i did it
[04:18] <jjesse> mdke: i thought i just did a svn copy
[04:19] <mdke> oh well
[04:22] <mdke> jjesse, that switching guide doesn't validate.
[04:22] <mdke> sounds like a cool idea
[04:23] <jjesse> mdke: i know its not done yet and i didn't have the right tools installed as i recently redid my installation
[04:23] <jjesse> so i'm working on validating/finishing it
[04:23] <mdke> cool
[04:23] <mdke> i just wanted to check it out :p
[04:23] <mdke> lemme check the online version
[04:24] <jjesse> grin the online version needs some changes
[04:24] <jjesse> like removing our favorite repository :)
[04:24] <mdke> yeah
[04:24] <mdke> careful about that marillat stuff :)
[04:25] <jjesse> the only thing that is not in multiverse these days is w32codecs
[04:25] <mdke> so does kde use gstreamer too?
[04:26] <jsgotangco> yes
[04:27] <jsgotangco> it'll completely ditch arts by dapper i believe
[04:27] <mdke> ah
[04:27] <mdke> that is cool that they use the same thing
[04:27] <mdke> although i think arts is unrelated
[04:28] <mdke> that's the sound server isn't it?
[04:28] <jjesse> anyone here install the recent flight test?
[04:28] <mdke> no, i downloaded it yesterday, i guess i'll install it tonight
[04:29] <jjesse> i did over the weekend and had some problems on the kubuntu side
[04:29] <jsgotangco> i just installed it a few hours ago
[04:29] <jsgotangco> nothing much chnaged
[04:29] <jsgotangco> really
[04:29] <jsgotangco> except some pretty obvious gnome changes
[04:30] <mdke> my partitioning is a total mess
[04:30] <mdke> i may need to do a total reinstall :/
[04:30] <jsgotangco> same here
[04:30] <jsgotangco> i just removed everything
[04:30] <jjesse> heck that's why i reinstalled, i was running dapper and kde 3.5 rc1 and was having issues
[04:30] <jjesse> i still have to have windows for work :(
[04:31] <jsgotangco> good thing 85% of workstations at my work run on linux
[04:31] <jjesse> i'm a windows network administrator
[04:31] <mdke> http://mdke.org/images/thinkpad.png
[04:31] <mdke> that is my hard disk
[04:31] <mdke> :/
[04:31] <jsgotangco> jjesse: i used to be one myself
[04:32] <jjesse> sounds like something someone would say when they got over a disease
[04:32] <mdke> rob1 is one now too :)
[04:32] <jsgotangco> mdke: mine is just clean dapper now
[04:32] <mdke> jsgotangco, hard core!
[04:32] <mdke> i need a breezy for mine
[04:33] <mdke> ah cool
[04:33] <jsgotangco> mdke: do you know any wiki page where we hvae definite dapper roadmap/changes?
[04:33] <jsgotangco> or even in lp?
[04:35] <mdke> there are a couple of wiki pages
[04:35] <mdke> and of course, you can check the approved specs
[04:35] <mdke> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperGoals
[04:36] <mdke> that page has a list of the specs
[04:38] <jsgotangco> even if its approved, it doesn't mean its going to get into dapper
[04:38] <jsgotangco> the LSB thing isn't even going to happen really
[04:40] <mdke> well the specs on that page should go in
[04:41] <jsgotangco> now always, but hopefully
[04:42] <mdke> yeah
[05:07] <jsgotangco> what the hell i tried translating the website in korea that mentioned my name and it said i'm into alcohol and debauchery from the google translation
[05:08] <jsgotangco> Philippines  	58,500
[05:08] <mdke> lol
[05:08] <mdke> sounds fair enough
[05:08] <jsgotangco> wow
[05:08] <mdke> you need a lawyer
[05:08] <jsgotangco> mdke: http://www.softexpo.or.kr/kr/conference/announcer.jsp
[05:11] <mdke> jsgotangco, where is the translation?
[05:11] <jsgotangco> wait let me do it again
[05:12] <jjesse> that's intereseting
[05:16] <jsgotangco> "also the knife queue is distant, it  participated to the alcoholic beverage development which sprouts."
[05:16] <mdke> lol
[05:16] <mdke> you have to ask em what it really means
[05:17] <jsgotangco> great so we're actually brewing moonshine over here
[07:56] <mdke> was bhuvan's commit access discussed at the last meeting?
[07:59] <mdke> jjesse, ping?
[08:25] <jjesse> mdke: ping
[08:26] <jjesse> i though commit access was talked about
[08:26] <mdke> pong
[08:26] <mdke> jjesse, wanted to ask you about the removing of the k-
[08:26] <jjesse> we talked about making people who wanted commit needed to either be a part of ubuntu-members or at least sign th CoC
[08:26] <jjesse> mdke: sure what's up?
[08:26] <mdke> ah cool
[08:27] <mdke> jjesse, you've updated some of the Makefile, but there is lots more to change. Also, the kubuntu directory still has the k- folders!
[08:27] <jjesse> did i screw svn up again ? <ducks>
[08:27] <mdke> no, i think it is ok
[08:27] <mdke> you probably just did an "svn copy" instead of "svn mv" right?
[08:27] <jjesse> mdke yes i did, cna i then do a svn delete?
[08:28] <mdke> yep
[08:28] <jjesse> ok will do
[08:28] <jjesse> i didn't know what to do for the web stuff, just follow the changes i made for xml?
[08:28] <mdke> I'll do the Makefile, then you can look at the commit email and see what I've changed
[08:28] <jjesse> cool
[08:28] <jjesse> i'm slowly learning
[08:29] <mdke> :)
[08:29] <mdke> there is a good guide, although tbh I haven't read it either
[08:30] <mdke> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/svn-book.html
[08:33] <jjesse> interseting
[11:47] <bhuvan> mdke: ping
[11:47] <mdke> thanks
[11:48] <mdke> now, how about commit access
[11:48] <bhuvan> as per jsgotangco, after becoming a member, getting commit access wont be an issue
[11:49] <mdke> we need to request you to be added
[11:49] <mdke> do you have a gpg key?
[11:49] <bhuvan> yeah, i do have already in launchpad
[11:49] <mdke> good
[11:49] <mdke> what username do you want?
[11:49] <bhuvan> i've also signed the coc, fwiw
[11:49] <bhuvan> username: bhuvan
[11:50] <mdke> good thanks
[11:51] <mdke> i'll sort it out then
[11:51] <bhuvan> ok, thankx
[11:51] <mdke> elmo will mail you when he has arranged your access
[11:51] <bhuvan> ok
[11:51] <mdke> he will mail you the password, encrypted with your key
[11:51] <bhuvan> ok
[11:52] <mdke> thanks