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MagicFabI have a question about the CC tonight04:26
MagicFabIs it OK to invite people from local orgs related to OSS, Linux ?04:26
ograMagicFab, its a public meeting ...04:32
ograinvite whoever you want04:32
MagicFabtks., just checking04:32
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\shgood evening10:01
sivangevening \sh , early a bit no?10:01
sivang(+1hr before meeting)10:01
\shreally?10:02
sivanglet's see 10UTC = midnight israel time, meaning one more hour to go10:02
\shsomeone banged my wlan10:02
sivang\sh: you mean, broke into it?10:02
\shno..same signalstrength, same channel, and my laptop here switched between the networks...the other one is closed...and mine is only secured by macaddresses10:03
\shoh yeah 22utc10:03
\shdamn10:03
ajmitchhm?10:06
ajmitchwhich meeting?10:06
ajmitchah, CC, nothing for me to worry about today :)10:06
SeveasT minus 52 minutes10:08
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TreenaksSeveas: *BOOM*  ?10:08
=== ajmitch definitely can't make it to the dapper development status meeting
ajmitch3am NZDT is painful10:08
ogra_dinnernot in germany10:09
Seveasajmitch, just go to bed early and wake up at 2:4510:09
ajmitchhah10:09
Seveasno one will notice you're not dressed :)10:09
TreenaksSeveas: he's not jdub10:09
SeveasbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerbadgerMUSHROOM10:09
Treenakscloud?10:09
ajmitchI've got work a few hours after that10:09
ogra_dinnershhhnaike10:09
Seveas:)10:09
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JuHi everybody10:25
MagicFabHello - I figured I'd better be early10:26
Seveas33 minutes to go :)10:27
MagicFabYeah. I have to leave in 2hrs. though :( seing the last CC log is over 6 hrs. ;)10:27
Seveasno way10:28
Seveaslittle over 3 hours iirc10:28
Seveasbut this onw ill be *much* shorter10:28
Jujust to know is there an irc contact for ubotu ? cool be nice to have an instance for locateam chans10:29
TreenaksJu: I think it's Seveas ;)10:29
Seveasyou can easily set one up - apt-get install blootbot10:29
SeveasTreenaks, *for ubotu*10:29
Treenaksblootbot? :)10:29
Juok, thanks10:29
Treenaksdid a Dutch guy write it?10:30
Seveasno :p10:30
ograTreenaks, developing nationalism ? 10:30
ogra:)10:30
Treenaksogra: no, but "bloot" is Dutch for naked :)10:30
Seveasogra, bloot is dutch for naked ;)10:30
ograhehehe10:30
mdkeSeveas, did you consider removing the "extra extra" type comments from ubotu?10:31
Seveasmdke, I don't run that bot10:32
mdkeoh, who does?10:32
Seveascafuego10:32
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SeveasI just run the bugzilla bot10:33
Juit's a very nice bot, btw10:33
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juliuxhi10:37
Seveashi10:38
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mitsuhikohi all10:49
GnuKemisthello10:49
juliuxhi mitsuhiko 10:49
mdkehi mitsuhiko 10:50
mitsuhikohi mdke :)10:51
mdkeyou're up to membership? jeez that is a bit overdue10:51
mitsuhikojep :)10:52
SeveasGnuKemist, you're Og Maciel, right?10:52
GnuKemistSeveas: yup10:52
GnuKemisthow are ya?10:52
SeveasGnuKemist, just poke jdub to add a link to the brazilian planet on planet.ubuntu.com10:53
Seveasno need for CC intervention there10:53
GnuKemistSeveas: will do... actually, I had emailed him quite some time ago10:53
GnuKemistbut this is not what I meant10:53
SeveasI don't think they'll simply let you put your planet on their servers...10:54
GnuKemistI mean to have the domain point to a pc under Ubuntu.org10:54
GnuKemistgotcha10:54
Seveasneither will they do that10:54
GnuKemistSeveas: I see10:54
Seveasfor locoteams there are the ubuntu-CC.org domains10:54
Seveasin your case ubuntu-br.org10:54
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GnuKemistSeveas: will talk to segfault then10:55
Seveasso poke smurfix to point planet.ubuntu-br.org and/or planeta.ubuntu-br.org there if you want that10:55
GnuKemistSeveas: been trying to get a hold of smurf for some time as well10:55
mitsuhikoSeveas: or zed :)10:55
GnuKemistmaybe tonight10:55
mitsuhikoGnuKemist: smurf is ill10:55
Seveasmitsuhiko, aww :/10:55
GnuKemistmitsuhiko: oh... sorry to hear10:55
Seveasthat's not good10:55
SeveasGnuKemist, are you ok with removing that item from the agenda now you know what to do?10:56
smurfI'm still alive though10:56
GnuKemistSeveas: sure thing  ;)10:56
mitsuhikosmurf: oh. good to hear :)10:56
GnuKemistsmurf: hi...10:56
Seveassmurf, good to see you :)10:56
smurfGnuKemist: just send me mail with the server IP10:56
GnuKemistsmurf: what is your email?10:56
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\shsmurf: good to see you...hope you are feeling better then yesterday10:57
smurfand don't forget to actually configure it to serve that domain *before* you tell me to turn it on, because I will check that it does ;-)10:57
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smurf\sh: somewhat :-/10:57
GnuKemistsmurf: no prob10:57
smurfGnuKemist: smurf@ubuntu.com10:57
GnuKemistsmurf: thanx10:57
\shsmurf: but it's only a cold? or something more serious?10:58
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smurf\sh: It is, but forget the "only". I'm not really here, other than to say +1 to juliux and mitsuhiko ...10:59
mitsuhikosmurf: nice :)11:00
juliuxsmurf, thanks11:00
smurf... and to kill ime until I get tired enough to actually fall asleep. :-/11:00
smurftime11:00
makogreetings11:00
Seveaskonnichiwa11:01
makolet me switch to my laptop.. give me 1 minute11:01
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\shwow mako11:01
Simiramako :) Long time and all that. Missed you in Montreal11:01
kjcoleSaluton!11:01
makoi missed me in montreal11:01
ogramako, we too11:02
Seveas23:02 - any sign of elmo Kamion and/or sabdfl yet?11:02
elmoI'm around11:02
ograah11:03
sivangmako !11:03
Seveaswelcome elmo :)11:03
makogreetings everyone11:03
mdkehiya11:03
mitsuhikohi all11:03
=== \sh is serving some snaks, beer, water, coffee
GnuKemistmako: hello11:03
makoi turn into a pumpkin in a little under an hour11:03
kjcoleWoopsie.  23:03?  UTC? I was hoping for 22:00 UTC.11:03
mdkeit's 2211:04
MagicFabHello11:04
Seveasit's 22:00 UTC now11:04
ogramako, could we get a pic of this ? 11:04
makoogra: absolutely not11:04
ograor better a shortcut :)11:04
smurfawwww...11:04
elmosending SMS pings11:04
Seveascool, ICMP over SMS :)11:04
makoelmo: thanks dude.. i was about do it :)11:04
=== Kamion is here
Seveasmako, David Larlet got accepted last time but had not joined ubuntu-members on launchpad back then. He has joined that team now, but needs to be approved. Would you be so kind? :)11:05
Kamionmy mobile's out of charge, so good luck trying to SMS me ;)11:05
ograheh11:06
Simira:-)11:06
makoalrighte11:06
kjcoleSeveas: I'm just an Ugly American.  I don't "cotton" to all this international brotherhood B.S.  (Re: UTC) ;-)11:06
makoKamion: i turn into a pumpkin in an hour so we should ge through the voting stuff quickly11:06
Seveass/last time/25 oct (http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20051026.124102.e648e759.en.html)/11:06
=== \sh is StephanHermann
=== Seveas is Dennis Kaarsemaker
=== smurf == Matthias Urlichs
Kamionok11:06
=== mitsuhiko is Armin Ronacher
=== juliux is Julius Bloch
elmoI'll ring sabdfl in a couple of minutes, but given his laptop is in the office and he isn't, I think we should assume he can';t make it11:06
=== ogra is Oliver Grawert
=== GnuKemist is Og Maciel
=== Simira is Karianne Grnningster
mdkematthew east11:06
=== kjcole is Kevin Cole
=== Kamion is Colin Watson
=== sivang is Sivan Greenberg
=== MarioMeyer is Mario Meyer
=== mako is Benjamin Mako Hill
=== dholbach is Daniel Holbach
SimiraSeveas : ey, I didn't even know you were you...11:07
=== david`bgk is David Larlet
SeveasSimira, neither did I ;)11:07
=== Ju is Julien Rottenberg
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Kamionmpathy is again not here, so let's skip that item11:07
makoalright.. it's gonna be rush rush for me since i turn into a pumpkin in one hour :)11:07
bhuvanbhuvan: Bhuvaneswaran11:07
mhzMauricioHernandez is here11:07
=== MagicFab is Fabian ROdriguez
SimiraSeveas : you didn't know who you were?11:07
juliuxKamion, he said that you can kick this itme11:08
SeveasRolandoBlanco isn't here either11:08
ogramhz, hey ! :)11:08
makoalright then, loco team introductions11:08
mhzSeveas: said it is 'not possible to be here'11:08
SeveasSo mhz is the first on the agenda (Chilean team)11:08
mhzogra: thx for inviting me11:08
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ograSeveas, what about Latin american Team ?11:09
Seveasmhz, can you tell us a bit more about your team?11:09
mhzyup11:09
Seveasogra, see the notes at RolandoBlanco in the proposed members11:09
ograSeveas, yes, sorry, missed it11:09
Seveasmhz, then please do :)11:09
mhzChileanLoCoTeam was meant to spread Edubuntu and Ubuntu. However, in Chile, there's someone (i still can't find his email) who is using ubuntu.cl11:10
makomhz: that's an issue we can handle11:10
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makosmurf and jane know all about that :)11:10
Amaranthi made it to one, finally!11:10
mhzSo, personally, I do feel 100% cmmited to Edubuntu. Mainly because, there are plenty of LUGs in LA11:10
mhzand Spain11:10
ograjane == silbs, not JaneW :)11:10
makoogra: yes, sorry :)11:11
sivangAmaranth: lol11:11
MagicFabubuntu-es is pretty active11:11
mhzSeveas: our plans are simple, yet agressive11:11
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makomhz: overlapping LUGS and loco teams are perfectly alright11:11
mhzSeveas: we can work together with any LUG that wants to work hard, no problem.11:11
makopeople need/want local community and supporst on a number of different locality issues11:12
ogramhz is one of the most active promoters for edubuntu in whole latin america i guess11:12
mhzmako: oh, i didnt know it11:12
makomhz: sure, they exist :)11:12
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makoSeveas: it's fine11:12
mdkemhz, who is in the team?11:12
makoright, what sort of membership and interest that you have11:12
mhzmako: Seveas however, I am very honest and I believe LA needs much more help on educational areas than linux related. So yes, I can spread Ubuntu. Nevertheless, my passion is Edubuntu :)11:13
mhzmdke: so far, Sergio Vergara (student of Chemestry), Rodrigo Morales (tecnocimiento guy who is the Biz plans guy), Victor Moral (tecnocimiento guy who is the IT expert and web developer), Me.11:14
mhzthe 4 of us are well commited to ICT on education 11:14
MagicFabmhz: I could be liaison with Colombia11:14
mdkecool11:14
kjcolemhz: ICT?11:15
makomhz: well, that sounds great11:15
mdkemhz, there is an Ubuntu forum on ubuntu.cl, is that anything to do with your team?11:15
ograbtw, this is mostly the work of the chilenian team: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuCdLabelAndSlip11:15
mhzHowever, I do participate a lot in CDSL (www.cdsl.cl) and they would help us on this. For EdubuntuChilean Tour, we have already contacted ColegioInteractivo, and institution that works with over 1000 teachers in Chile11:15
makomhz: but you should welcome to working with other people from chile who want to tackle other issues11:15
mhzmdke: nop11:15
makomhz: so that we don't *have* to have competing locos :)11:16
mdkemhz, it looks quite well developed11:16
makomhz: if you have a primary intersting one area or two, that's great11:16
mhzmdke: so far, I only know them via forum. I have never klnown of any InstallFest organized by them11:16
mhzmako: absolutely11:16
makobut it's good to be willing to work with people have have other ubuntu interests11:16
mdkemhz, perhaps you can join forces with the organisers of it11:16
makocool11:16
mhzmako: the diff. is how commited people are in the end, on daily basis.11:16
mhzmako: sure, I am trying to get his leader email (they were off line for long period)11:17
mdkegreat stuff11:17
mhzCDSL and us, are organizing install fest for next saturday11:17
makogreat stuff11:17
Seveascool, install fests rock11:18
mhzmako: and so far, we have not heard from them. I guess it's mainly because they live in diff areas (we are divided by regions)11:18
mdkemhz, did you try posting to the forum?11:18
mhzyup, last week11:18
makowell, in interests of time, we shoudl move on11:18
mdkegood11:19
mhzno answer yet11:19
mhzbut i know i will11:19
mdkemako is going orange11:19
ograwhhops11:19
mhzSeveas: we are planing also HowTo Fests11:19
mitsuhikohehe11:19
mdkemako, you wanna move on?11:20
kjcolemhz: Nice. Keep good records of those.  Might come in handy for others.11:20
Seveasmhz, sounds great, good luck with all that and when you have other interesting stuff to report, don't hesitate11:20
makoyes, lets do it :)11:20
Seveasnext would be rolando blanco11:20
makonew member candidates11:20
Seveasbut he can't make tuesdays, can we schedule a meeting on wednesday for once?11:20
mhzkjcole: sure. At least on IRC I am reporting as much as we can :)11:20
makoSeveas: we can :)11:21
MagicFabmhz: pictures, pictures, pictures :)11:21
Seveasmako, great, shall I do that for next meeting and coordinate it a bit with him?11:21
makoSeveas: we need to run it by other people11:21
mhzMagicFab: sure. form next saturdays11:22
makoSeveas: we also need tdo shift the times back and forth11:22
makoSeveas: we've been having too many late meeting times11:22
makoSeveas: but we can do that at the end of hte meeting11:22
makolets move on11:22
Seveasjuliux, you're up11:22
mdkeJuliusBloch11:22
juliuxyes i am here11:22
makojuliux: alright, do you know the drill?11:22
ograjuliux, youre no member yet ? o_O11:22
juliuxogra, no11:22
kjcoleMako: Late is a relative term. ;-) (5:22 PM here)11:22
Seveasplease give a 3-line intro about what you did, what your plans are and your vision on Ubuntu11:22
juliuxat the moment many people in Germany heard something about ubuntu, but don't know what  exactly it is. my dream is that everybody knows what ubuntu is. so i have  decided to present ubuntu on fairs in Germany and tell the people what ubuntu is and to make my dream a little bit more real.11:23
=== ogra wonders if 3 lines are enough ...
mdkenice wiki page11:23
mhz:)11:23
Seveasmitsuhiko, bhuvan, mhz please prepare such a 3-liner so you can paste it when you're up11:23
mhzokidoki11:23
\shoh...juliux and mitsuhiko are great workers in things like ubuntu and promoting it11:23
bhuvanSeveas, ok11:23
juliuxin the past i have do many support for ubuntu in Germany11:23
mitsuhikoSeveas: i've prepared one :)11:23
ograjuliux is organizing a lot in the german community ... preparing booths and presence at fairs11:23
Seveasawesome11:24
ograhe's busy in #edubuntu as well11:24
mdkegreat work juliux 11:24
juliuxthanks mdke 11:24
KamionI'm impressed by the pile of stuff there11:24
=== Seveas too
\shhe is one of the founding members of ubuntu Deutschland e.V. and works on wiki.ubuntuusers.de...he is awesome11:25
juliuxhm i think i can do more, but i have to study11:25
GnuKemistjuliux: if you don't mind me ask, how do you pay for your travelling?11:25
\sh(same applies to mitsuhiko)11:25
juliuxGnuKemist, i paid it my self11:25
GnuKemistjuliux: wow11:25
mdkewiki.ubuntusers.de is exceptional11:25
GnuKemistjuliux: I have done the same as far as buying and burning CDs to give out...  awsome!11:26
ograhe organized my talk at linuxtag.de at dec 3rd 11:26
mdkeoh dear11:26
juliuxogra, no linuxtag.de is the one in march next year11:26
makojuliux: have you been involved in the gnome community fo much longer?11:26
mdkeunleashing ogra on the public11:26
mdke-111:26
mhzSeveas: my 3 lines are ready11:26
mitsuhikomine too :)11:26
juliuxmako, yes11:26
\shhe convienced me to do a "Photo With A MOTU" at the Essener Linuxtage fair ,)11:26
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juliuxmako, the last few years11:26
mdke\sh, LOL11:27
dholbach\sh: hehe :)11:27
juliux\sh, psst11:27
mitsuhikohehe11:27
dholbach\sh: he did the "interview with a motu" too :)11:27
juliuxogra, the right url for december is http://essen.linux-tage.linec.de/11:27
ogramdke, come on, i'm not *this* ugly :)11:27
mdkeogra, :D11:27
makojuliux: great, i'm glad that you've moved over to this community :)11:27
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Seveashttp://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Spiele_Ubuntu <-- you don't mention xmoto, kobo deluxe and xgala ;)11:28
Seveasbut that wiki is indeed exceptional11:28
SeveasVERY informative11:28
Kamionok, happy to approve juliux if elmo and mako are11:28
makoright11:28
mitsuhikoSeveas: Spiele is outdated, we move it into the german holarse wiki11:28
ograeven if i develop a bread of wisdom now (according to makos definition)11:28
mdkeSeveas, that wiki is flair11:28
mitsuhikoAFIAK11:28
makojuliux: i appreciate you contributions11:28
juliuxthanks a lot11:28
elmoack11:28
ogra*beard11:28
makoyou've got a thumbs up from me11:28
GnuKemistjuliux: congrats!11:28
makosounds good11:28
mdkewelcome juliux 11:28
dholbachexcellent, juliux :)11:29
ogracongratds juliux 11:29
makoArmin Ronacher11:29
mitsuhikojuhuu :)11:29
Seveasjuliux, welcome aboard, don't forget to do the launchpad/signing ritual11:29
juliuxSeveas, i have done this11:29
mitsuhikoSince the beginning of november11:29
mitsuhiko2004 i'm ubuntu user. One month after my first contact with ubuntu and linux11:29
mitsuhikoSince Dezember the Admin of ubuntuusers.de beside Sascha Morr.11:29
mitsuhikoI work on the Portal Software and try to answer user questions. My account11:29
mitsuhikothere is named "blackbird" and with about 3000 posts i'm one of the most11:29
\shjuliux: finally u made it, dude :) congratulations :) welcome aboard :)11:29
mitsuhikoactive authors.11:29
mdkemitsuhiko is a god11:29
mitsuhikolol11:29
mdkehe has written loads of cool wiki things for the german wiki11:29
\shyeah...he is young, he is fresh, he works for ubuntu even during his schooltime...11:29
mdkeand is very helpful in the locoteam area in sharing ideas and such11:30
mitsuhiko\sh: *psst* don't tell ^^11:30
makomitsuhiko: that's impressive :)11:31
makonot the schooltime thing11:31
\shand he is friendly, community orientated..and the best what you can get for ubuntu...smurf, juliux, mitsuhiko, and sascha are the base of the most of the ubuntu work in germany...11:31
makoi'm actually in a research group meeting RIGHT NOW :)11:31
mitsuhiko:)11:31
mako(but my group all uses ubuntu so it's tolerated)11:31
juliux\sh, there are much more in germany11:31
\shjuliux: i know...but you are one of the big guns11:32
makomitsuhiko: so ubuntuusers.de has been around for a while, right?11:32
makohow long have you been at it?11:32
mitsuhikomako: since Dec. 200411:32
mitsuhikouser founded it 2 days after the warty release11:32
mitsuhikoso. somewhere in october 200411:32
SeveasAnmeldungsdatum  19.11.200411:32
Seveas(according to the forum profile :)11:33
mitsuhikoSeveas: jep. that's true :)11:33
smurfmitsuhiko has been very active for quite some time, I'd be happy to sponsor hi for membership just on his consistency ;-)11:33
makowow,11:33
mdkeyeah the guy is good11:33
makosmurf: that's good to hear :)11:33
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SeveasI think it says enough :)11:33
mdkelong overdue for membership11:33
SeveasBeitrge insgesamt   3182 [2.85% aller Beitrge / 8.62 Beitrge pro Tag] 11:33
Kamionok, sure, I'm happy, plenty of material and recommendations11:33
elmoack too11:33
makolooks like sustained and sustained contributions to me11:34
makolooks great11:34
Seveasmitsuhiko, welcome aboard11:34
GnuKemistmitsuhiko: congrats!11:34
makolooks great :)11:34
mitsuhikothx11:34
makobhuvan: hey there11:34
makoi think you're up11:34
\shmitsuhiko: congratulations :) 11:34
bhuvanyes11:34
juliuxmitsuhiko, congratds11:34
bhuvanwiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bhuvan. I belong to docteam. I've submitted many patches to docteam svn repository. I've also contributed couple of wiki pages. I've also made changes/corrections to many wiki pages.11:34
bhuvani'm one of the maintainer for ServerGuide for Dapper. I've already prepared the  spec and got the appropral from team members.  w.u.c/ServerGuide11:34
bhuvanCurrently, I'm preparing the server guide for Dapper with the help of my team mates.11:35
makobhuvan: where are you from?11:35
bhuvanindia11:35
makobhuvan: where about?11:35
bhuvanindia, chennai (chennai is a metro in south india)11:35
mdkei would like to support bhuvan too. He has been helping around the docteam for a while now, and has submitted several helpful patches. He is enthusiastic and has excellent team-working. he learns fast and is patient, and is contributing steadily in the docteam11:35
makobhuvan: sure, i know :)11:35
bhuvanmako, cool11:35
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makomdke: thanks, that's helpful11:36
Seveasbhuvan, any other interests beside documentation?11:37
Kamionbhuvan: how much of the server guide do you think can be sourced (modified or otherwise) from existing documentation?11:37
makobhuvan: how long have you been involved? where do you want to take ubuntu?11:37
bhuvani'm interested in MOTU. but, as i wish to learn new stuff, i prefer documentation for some time before moving to MOTU11:37
Kamion(er that sounds like a bit of a leading question, that's not the intent, just a simple question)11:37
mdkeKamion, we will be relying heavily on the debian guide i imagine11:38
bhuvanKamion, so far i've referred redhat. sure, we may make use of debian document11:38
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Kamionyeah, that or the HOWTOs (minus all the "if you're running <this> system from 1997, do this, otherwise ..." stuff)11:39
\shbhuvan: why the redhat documentation?11:39
makoi would be surprised if the debian document didn't offer us good things we could use11:39
mdkeoh btw, if you want an idea of the quality of his work, check out the SubVersion and Mailman wiki pages that he has done11:39
mdkemako, from what I've seen, it definitely does11:39
bhuvanmako, for the past 3 months. i've been using ubuntu for the past 2 months11:39
makonice11:39
Seveasit's good that people who are new to ubuntu immediately contribute11:40
Seveasshows dedication :)11:40
makowait.. you've been writing documents for longer than youv'e been using it11:40
Kamionhmm, I could proofread that, but it's basically clear and simple documentation, and my command of Indian languages is hardly excellent so ... :)11:41
bhuvanSeveas, i'm used to debian though11:41
mdkeKamion, for a first and immediate contribution, it is so much better than a lot of wiki pages that spring up :)11:41
\shKamion: come on learn hindi :)11:42
Kamionmdke: yeah, certainly11:42
Kamion(BTW Subversion is spelt thus, no capital V)11:42
mdkeyeah that looks like some fake camelcase ;)11:42
bhuvanKamion, no!11:42
bhuvanseems, it must be spelled SubVersion11:42
bhuvanone of the SVN developer suggested that change11:42
Seveasit should be spelled bazaar-ng ;)11:42
\sh.oO(correct spelling should be subVersion, and bzr is now called DomVersion)11:43
makobhuvan: well, i'm thrilled with your contributions11:43
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bhuvanmako, ok11:43
makoand, as Seveas said, i'm happy to see you contributing already11:43
Kamionbhuvan: odd, that's not the way it was spelled when I used to be on subversion-devel, and it's not how http://subversion.tigris.org/ spells it11:43
Kamionbut anyway11:43
bhuvanKamion, ok11:43
mdkebhuvan, do you have commit access for the docteam svn repo yet?11:44
Kamiondetailed quibbles aside :-), I'm fine with bhuvan for membership11:44
bhuvanas i work for CollabNet, i referred my developer over here .. he suggested couple of changes to that document, its one of them ..11:44
elmome too11:44
Seveasbhuvan, welcome on the Ubuntu ship11:44
Kamionmaybe there's been a policy change11:44
GnuKemistbhuvan: congrats!11:44
Seveascongratulations!11:44
bhuvanmdke, not yet11:44
mhzbhuvan: congrats11:45
ogracongrats bhuvan 11:45
SeveasMagicFab, you're next11:45
bhuvanoh, thankx11:45
makobhuvan: personally, i'd prefer to see a little more sustained contribution11:45
mdkebhuvan, right let's sort that out. elmo is that to be rt'ed?11:45
\shcongrats bhuvan 11:45
Seveas(for the people who are puzzled, look 6cm down on the agenda)11:45
juliuxcongrats bhuvan 11:45
makobut yeah, that's great :)11:45
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elmomdke: yeah11:45
makobhuvan: so stay involved dude :)11:45
MagicFabI am here11:45
bhuvansure, thankx11:45
mdkemako, you will, I have the feeling that this guy is here to stay11:45
makobhuvan: keep up the good work :)11:45
SeveasMagicFab, the 3-line introduction please11:45
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mdkebhuvan, nice work11:46
makoSeveas: how else is on the stack?11:46
SeveasFabianRodriguez (Wasn't there 8/11) - Confirming I'll be there as MagicFab - -- FabinRodrguez 2005-11-22 15:48:1311:46
MagicFabMhh... I have a bit more than 3 lines11:46
makoi gotta run in like 5 minutes11:46
MagicFabWikiPage:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FabianRodriguez - stuff I find significant in bold. I am originally from Colombia, have been living in Quebec Canada since I was 16 while visiting family there yearly - so I've known about the horrors of remote support of proprietary software, webcams etc. :) You may remember me from UBZ when I told the true story of having converted my parents' PC to Ubuntu only.11:46
mdkebhuvan, can you come into -doc for a while?11:46
bhuvanmdke, ok11:46
ograSeveas, doesnt that depend on the DPI setting ? 11:46
Seveasmako, only this and a few non-voting things11:46
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Seveasogra, sort-of11:46
makoSeveas: perfect11:46
MagicFabI currently work full-time as an Open Source software solutions consultant, focusing on security and migration issues in Montreal. Curiously, I am the first link in U. Marketplace - NorthAmerica :) I have strong links to the local community and I am mostly interested in advocacy/marketing (events, etc.), local support & training and new users introduction / migration to Gnu/Linux. 11:46
makoMagicFab: have you been doing much ubuntu business?11:47
MagicFabI'd say Debian so far. My first Ubuntu server proposal is out this week :)11:47
makothat's nice11:47
=== Kamion would be interested to hear how the marketing team's work is progressing; haven't heard much from that side
MagicFabAh, wait, several custom training sessions, yes.11:48
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SeveasMagicFab was at UBZ, any UBZ-ists you talked to there MagicFab ?11:48
mitsuhikoKamion: i'm waiting for some work of the art team11:48
MagicFabSivang, at a BOF11:48
mdkeelmo, what do you need, email address, gpg # and preferred nick?11:48
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MagicFabany UBZers here ? I personally know hub (not here) - also go to meet Corey Burger11:49
elmomdke: s/nick/username/ but yes, that'll work11:49
SimiraMagicFab : a lot of us were there11:49
kjcoleMagicFab: I was there, but more of a lurker...11:49
makoMagicFab: many of your contributions have been in the last month or so11:49
ograMagicFab, i was there11:49
\shMagicFab: many of us ... ogra, \sh, kamion, elmo ....11:50
makowhich is great, but i like to look for slightly more long term contributions11:50
makoMagicFab: do you have any testimonials from existing developers?11:50
MagicFabmako: I've been on since 4.1011:50
makoMagicFab: right, i understand you've been using ubuntu until 4.1011:50
makobut our job is to recogized a series of sustained and significant contributions11:51
Amaranthwhoops, gotta go11:51
=== Simira too
Simirag'night11:51
makoSimira: good night11:51
ogranight Simira 11:51
GnuKemistnight11:51
MagicFabmako: well, I do this full time and some of the stuff has not been online - like advocacy in Colombia11:51
makoMagicFab: you do what full time?11:51
MagicFabmako: OSS consulting, training and migration from Win to Linux11:52
mdke:))11:52
makoyes, i understand that, and i understand your committment to ubuntu11:52
SeveasMagicFab, what we are looking for are contributions to Ubuntu - not to OSS in general11:52
makobut i'm trying to gague contributions to the ubuntu community11:52
MagicFabI'd say 1/2 of what I do is Mozilla related, 1/2 is now Ubuntu11:52
makoMagicFab: ok.. but the nature and extent of those is not known to me or obvious from my wiki page11:52
makosorry, from your wikipage11:53
makoMagicFab: do you have any other members who can give you testimonials11:53
MagicFabsivang could, he's here11:53
MagicFabSome of you may see me on IRC11:53
MagicFabCorey Burger too11:54
SeveasI never really saw you in #ubuntu actually 11:54
MagicFabONe of my main projects is a doc to accompany Ubuntu CDs, a work in progress for more than a year11:54
makoSeveas: that's fine though, you rarely see me there either :)11:54
makousing irc is by no means a requirement11:54
makoMagicFab: cool :)11:54
makothat sounds great11:54
MagicFabhttps://secure.fabianrodriguez.com/files/ubuntu-fr.pdf11:54
Seveasmako, no but he said that some would, and I'm in there 'sometimes' :)11:55
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makoMagicFab: in any case, i'd suggest we postpone this until you can collect a few testimontials11:55
makoSeveas: sorry, missed that11:55
Ubuntuser_BAHello Folks/111:55
makoMagicFab: and keep working on the directly commmunity engaged projects you've started in the last month or so11:55
david`bgkMagicFab, why don't you get yann and me in touch for french documentation ?11:56
MagicFab? last month ? 11:56
david`bgkyes for your CDs accompany11:57
makoMagicFab: the stuff that is down with "oct 2005"11:57
makoin any case11:57
ograhmm, is there a reason we skipped mhz's membership Seveas ? he's above MagicFab on the agenda11:57
david`bgkwe're interested in this11:57
mhzSeveas: Can I paste my lines once last candidate is introduced? when you asked me to introduce myself I thought that to be invited here is because work was already recognized :)11:57
MagicFabWell, I can't see how it's considered recent or last month11:57
KamionMagicFab: mako's referring to the marketing team work I think?11:58
makoyes11:58
makoMagicFab: i'm not suggesting that ALL of your contributiosn started last month11:58
Seveasogra, he didn't put himself on the list and the 'covered in recent meetings' is usually not treated, but he made a note there11:58
Kamionif the public speaking work goes back some time, I'm happy to consider that a contribution; we've taken members on the basis of advocacy before11:58
MagicFabdavid`bgk: if you're in ubuntu-fr I think we're already in touch11:58
ogramhz, wait until mako/Seveas call you11:58
makoi'm suggesting that some of the most directly community-engaged projects, like marketing team stuff, is relatively recent11:58
mhzogra: ok, thx.11:58
makoMagicFab: i'm more comfortable postponing this11:59
ograSeveas, i dont see MagicFab either in the above list11:59
sivangSeveas: MagicFab also participated in a BOF and spec I was in charge of and gave some good ideas11:59
makoMagicFab: it may just be that you need to do a better job documenting this 11:59
Seveassivang, nice, put that in a wikipage11:59
makoyes11:59
makoand we need to do this before the meeting11:59
david`bgkMagicFab, yes of course we are, you have been added to the planet a week ago11:59
MagicFabmako: I'd love to - I spent quite some time on the my wiki page. How can I improve that ?11:59
makoMagicFab: work with me in the next two weeks11:59
sivangSeveas: I should add it?11:59
makoMagicFab: and lets see how we can improve it11:59
makoi'm happy to do it offline12:00
makoright now, i'm going to turn into a pumpkin12:00
Seveasmako, wait12:00
makoSeveas: ?12:00
Seveasone more candidate (I missed it on the agenda)12:00
mdkemhz12:00
makoright12:00
mhzmdke: wait until Seveas calls me?12:01
makoplease, go ahead, i'll reconnect ASAP and comment on the log.. take votes from the other two :)12:01
Seveasmhz, your wikipage mentions very little Ubuntu contributions12:01
makoif i'm lucky, it will be in ~10 minutes12:01
KamionI've seen mhz around on the Edubuntu project for quite some months12:01
makootherwise, 2.5h12:01
mdkemhz, go ahead now12:01
makoif you get kamion and elmo to agree, i doubt you will get a fight from me :)12:01
mhzSeveas: Debian user for 3 years and Ubuntu since warty. My first commitment is to freedom of access because knowledge is key for sustainable development. Education is one of the most important areas to achieve such development. Ergo, Ed/Ubuntu is the key actor in my plans:12:01
mhzEdubuntu Chilean Tour + Fairs of free Technology.12:01
mhzSo far I edit some wiki stuff in edubuntu.org, I keep www.tecnocimiento.cl/EdubuntuChile and I am coordinating the EdubuntuCdLabelAndCdCover and EdubuntuStudyContents.12:01
mhzAlso, I have installed Ubuntu in 2 medium sized-companies servers and over 25 desktops, and edubuntu in over 16 machines now, 3 of them at a university.12:01
Kamionalthough I'm not sure the wiki page reflects that as much as it might do12:01
mhzOn december one article I wrote on Ubuntu for Education, for a Education Magazine, will be handed to over 1000 schools. Also, I'll present Ubuntu and Edubuntu on a local TV show for teens.12:01
makoalright guys.. ttys12:01
mhzI am sure ogra and JaneW can give good testimonials of my contributions, so far.12:01
ograSeveas, he did nearly all of the wiki stuff for edubuntu, is very active in the edubuntu community12:01
makoalright guys, see you soon12:01
KamionFWIW I tend to skip over the "life story" bits of people's wiki pages :)12:01
mdkebye mako 12:02
Seveasogra, that's a nice + for him12:02
ograhe does a great job promoting edubuntu in latin america12:02
mhzKamion: thx for that12:02

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