[12:13] congrats mhz [12:13] congrats to both of you [12:14] crimsun, thanks [12:14] yay [12:15] thx. === mhz is very happy!! [12:17] :-D === juliux too [12:18] :.D + [12:26] juliux: so what now? we are more responsible for failures ?? :D [12:26] hehehe [12:27] mhz, i think so [12:27] *g* [12:27] ogra: was i off line? [12:27] juliux: ping [12:27] duh! [12:27] this ISP!! [12:27] i never knew [12:27] mhz, not to my knowledge [12:28] mhz, what do you want to know? [12:29] juliux: I meant.. I never noticed I was off line. But it felt wired IRC so static for soo long :) === mhz was abducted! === mhz suffered ubuntu-ufo === Diosan [n=diosan@65.182.7.9] has joined #edubuntu [12:34] hello room [12:35] Diosan: hi [12:35] hows it going [12:35] hi Diosan [12:35] hi folks [12:35] this project is very very exciting [12:36] Diosan: we think so [12:36] gn8 everybody [12:37] sleepp well and happy [12:37] Diosan, yes, isnt it :) [12:38] yup [12:38] ogra: I really appreciate your vote. For a moment I thought I didn't know what 'contributing' meant ;) [12:39] well actually I can't speak from experience now downloading it [12:39] Lot's of energy, and I expect more from the young'un's. ;-) [12:39] Diosan, make sure to read http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes before installing :) [12:39] ogra: next time I know i have to intriduce myself telling what I have done/wanna do. Not who i am :) [12:40] kjcole: thx. I will "show some code" [12:40] .oO(though I am not a coder) [12:41] Also, if you experiment with LVM during install, don't choose the wipe disk and use LVM, and then expect to cancel out. ;-) [12:41] Diosan: no worries. This channel is always open to help [12:41] and to receive help as well [12:41] :D [12:41] heheheheheh [12:41] kjcole: indeed [12:41] but I wanted to know if the tux4kids and other application are installed with the OS or have to be added afterward [12:42] wow [12:42] this is the first linux community i have been in that feels like a community and not eliteist [12:42] Diosan: there is EdubuntuSoftwareList on the wiki [12:42] those are the apps. chosen for this release [12:42] With a lot of the options in the partitioning options, you have a final step that says 'write the changes'. Not so with that LVM option. It just does it. [12:43] and with a whole bunch of people in the channel that are actually willing to helo [12:43] ogra: BTW, schooltool is not listed. Because it is not considered app? [12:43] mhz, its already in [12:43] Diosan: how eliteist? [12:44] mhz, rtfm etc ... === mhz checking the list [12:45] ogra: hmmmmmmm, not in http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuSoftwareList [12:46] mhz, i meant rtfm with eliteist ... [12:46] its a common answer in other linux communities [12:47] ogra: I know shcooltool is included because I used it, I just wanted to know if the list you made was based on a criteria or it was missed only [12:47] ogra: ahhhh RTFM [12:47] that's eliteist!! [12:47] duh! === mhz has never used that, so far. [12:47] so I was ignorant [12:47] :) [12:48] mhz, i would ban you from the channel if you used it more than once :) [12:48] Diosan: sure, RTFM stupid phrases are against our Manifesto, so please feel yourself at home [12:48] good [12:48] Well, with a group that's largely focused on education, one hopes we'd be a community of teachers and learners as well as techies and evangelists. "RTFM" is no way to teach or preach. ;-) [12:48] ogra: ooooops, I already used it 3 times in a row :D [12:49] hehe === fersfeir [n=fernando@200-70-120-242.mrse.com.ar] has joined #edubuntu [12:49] im not exactly a newbie to linux [12:49] kjcole: indeed [12:49] but i never quite liked the elitism i have seen elsewhere [12:49] Diosan: can you tell us about yourself? === fersfeir [n=fernando@200-70-120-242.mrse.com.ar] has left #edubuntu [] [12:49] sure [12:49] oooops, Diosan. [12:49] my wife calls me for dinner [12:50] I work for the cable company in trinidad and tobago [12:50] np [12:50] if i dont follow, she'll kick me butt :) === mhz will read log === mhz is now known as mhz_dinner [12:50] mhz: bon appitite [12:51] yes, mhz_dinner enjoy [12:51] my main interest in the software is as a solution for the schools in this country [12:51] which in my opinion are pretty backward [12:51] bye mhz [12:52] Diosan: Are you keeping an eye on Negroponte's $100 computer? === \sh is now known as \sh_away [12:53] from MIT ? [12:53] yes i have [12:53] very much so [12:54] but i have to admit that the country is affluent enough not to neccesitate that in most cases [12:54] Don't know that there'll be much use in the US... (beggars here are choosers), but elsewhere, lots of possibility, and maybe eventually here too. [12:55] but as with all none first world countries the wealth doesn't seem to get to the people who need it most [12:55] which means poor children suffer [12:56] but in general there is alot of scope for it here [12:56] even if it only begins with the private schools [12:56] My own interest is less in the general use of computers in education, but more about "nostalgia" in a way: [12:57] takes you back to your old apple II E ? [12:58] I was part of a pilot program to introduce programming to high school students in 1973. Until then, I had never fit in anywhere. I wasn't an athlete, I wasn't a scholar, and I wasn't one of the popular kids either. [12:59] "nerd", "geek" and "dork" weren't part of the common vocabulary either, but if they had been, they'd all have been insults. [12:59] I hear you [01:00] I was responsible along with two other students for setting up the computer labs in my school [01:00] But then, out of 60 kids in the pilot program, 5 of us took to it like fish to water. It was as if we'd been starving our whole lives and finally had food in front of us. We gorged on computers. [01:00] we got boxes of old junk from norway that they "donated" [01:00] and put together the machines and made something workable [01:00] had a profound effect on me if you will [01:01] Apple IIe was about the 5th computer I encountered. We started with the Xerox Data Systems (XDS) Sigma 7, running the CP-5 OS. [01:01] I know what you mean, i had been selected after that to do free training and an adult technical facility [01:01] it was wonderful [01:02] And we ended up teaching those students who were either terrified or confused. It was a great feeling. When I went off to college, I majored in computers. When it came time for an internship, I told my advisor [01:03] hmmm [01:03] i thought in highshool as well [01:03] "Put me in a school. I want to work with computers in education." [01:03] i hated school though [01:03] I've been at Gallaudet University ever since then (December 1977). [01:04] i found it so annoying to be in a college tutorial where my pertinent questions and observations were regarded as disruptive [01:04] so i quit [01:04] never been back [01:04] hasn't hurt me too badly though [01:05] I never finished my computer science degree. [01:06] But after several years at gallaudet, and my boss pestering me, I finally went back and got a degree. (He was expecting computer science, but I ended up with an audio technology degree which I've never used.) [01:06] but i always wanted to contribute in a technological way to the progress of this little country [01:06] and i think you also maybe facilaitating me [01:07] facilitating rather [01:08] Well, like you said: Nice community. I'm finding myself sucked into projects and ambitious goals by Edubuntu and kin. So, we facilitate each other, I guess. [01:12] i hear you [01:12] and i am willing to contribute abit [01:12] as soon as I can gain a better understanding [01:12] like actually installing it === Astro [n=Astro@cpe-70-122-99-21.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [01:18] Heh. I installed Hoary Hedgehog (4.10) and lots of stuff broke. But the philosophy and spirit still interested me. I switched to Fedora (being MUCH more comfy in a RedHat world), but maintained interest. I went to the Montreal meeting, but didn't have Ubuntu installed. I just installed Edubuntu yesterday. [01:18] (And stayed up very late adding packages to it.) === Astro [n=Astro@cpe-70-122-99-21.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === Astro is now known as AstroKing [01:20] lol === AstroKing [n=AstroKin@cpe-70-122-99-21.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [01:21] I'm actually home at the moment, sitting at my old, reliable RH9 box. (It's one old dog that I don't want to teach a new trick.) [01:21] Hello, I am at the install screen where it asks for IP address. I want to use DHCP, but it seems to demand an IP address. Can I go on by just leaving it blank? [01:22] I ran into that as well. I don't think you can. I ended up temporarily booting into Windoze, getting the IP that DHCP assigned, and then restarting the install using that IP. [01:22] Ok, will try that. [01:23] Not pretty, but it worked. === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@210.213.221.221] has joined #edubuntu [01:27] Thanks, letting it boot up now. I'm a 2nd grade teacher and our computer lab is full of (mostly) dysfuntional 7-year old iMacs. Trying to figure out something that would be a cheap solution and not pay so much money on windows licenses. [01:27] The wiki doc https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/I386 says otherwise (claiming to detect DHCP) but that wasn't my experience. [01:28] cool. [01:29] ist really small [01:29] So, where do you teach, and are what lead you to Edubuntu? Already a Linux person or new to it? [01:29] 1 CD [01:29] beautiful [01:30] now all i need is to get a monitor for that spare machine I have home [01:33] I am in Texas, USA. I went to university for computer science and was into Linux back then, but never was able to find a job after college so I became a teacher. [01:33] As far as edubuntu, Distrowatch led me to it. [01:34] i went to the site because my supervisor whom i interested inlinux was installing it on a mchine in the office [01:36] I lucked out: I switched to Linux in '93, and at a Linux conference in NC in '99 I attended the first EduBOF. It didn't go well, but I met a guy there who as it turns out lives very close to me. [01:36] And he's the Education leader for Edubuntu: Jeff Elkner. [01:38] Nice. I'm just trying to evaluate it to see if it would be workable at our school. We need things like gradebook software, programs that can serve up math and reading tutorials/lessons, and so on. [01:39] Look into SchoolTool which comes with Edubuntu, and Moodle which doesn't yet but is rumored to be in the next release. [01:40] (I'm not an educator -- at least not paid for it -- so I don't know much about either, but they're "all the rage" with the teachers I've talked with.) [01:41] Moodle is in the Universe repository, and so is easy to add on. It's just not on the CD. [01:41] Thanks a lot...I need to be "armed with information" if and when I make a proposal to switch. [01:42] Although it isn't Ubuntu, Jeff wrote a good article for Red Hat magazine about his experience as a high school teacher using Linux in the classroom. That may provide you with some ammo. It's on-line. [01:45] (I'm looking for the URL, but I made a PDF of it if I can't find the source.) [01:45] http://www.redhat.com/magazine/003jan05/features/arlington/ [01:45] that must be it [01:47] be back in 5 minutes === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@210.5.108.207] has joined #edubuntu [01:49] Yep. That's it. [01:52] back [01:54] on the phone with jeff now. ;-) [01:55] cool, well tell him a teacher in Texas is installing it now to check it out. === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@210.5.108.207] has joined #edubuntu [01:59] re === mhz_dinner is now known as mhz [02:00] mhz is now known as mhz_fed. [02:00] hehehehe [02:00] indeed [02:00] And just hung up with Jeff. [02:00] kjcole: I have good news for edubuntu [02:01] We're we're planning to attend PyCon 2006 in TX, and push the Edubuntu / Python link. [02:01] mhz, do tell. === kjcole waits with antici... pation. [02:02] I have just hung up with the principal of a kinder garden school (?) and we are inviting Parents and othere teachers form local community to an event where will demo edubuntu. (about 60 people) [02:02] Very nice! [02:02] He liked edubuntu so much that he even volunteered to desing nice non-expensive invitations (he's designer) [02:03] In the mid of 2006, he'll start a language school (for kids with language problems) [02:04] coincidentally, tomorrow, Henrik and others have the meeting about "SpecialNeeds" (people who use IT but have difficulties with hearing, viewing, etc) [02:04] here's a question..how good is edubuntu at wireless? there's a chance our school may go wireless soon, so i'm just wondering. [02:04] AstroKing: edubuntu is ubuntu [02:05] AstroKing: hence, if Ubuntu Wi fi is good, then edubuntu will too === mhz prefers KDE thoug [02:05] ok guys [02:05] i have to go [02:05] but thank you [02:05] again [02:06] and i'll be in touch [02:06] AstroKing: i hope you enjoy edubuntu as much as other teacher have in Chile. We do think we urgently need more testers and teachers to help on cross-curricular crossing with edubuntu tools [02:06] Diosan: thx, bye === mhz is now known as mhz_family === mhz_family BBsoon [02:07] Yes..sorry, I have been "out" of linux for about a year or so. I've stayed in touch with linux news and have heard of the distros, but haven't actually had the time to test any out (including ubuntu) until now. [02:12] Sorry, out fo a bit. === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@210.213.222.18] has joined #edubuntu [02:12] Wireless... Check the card. [02:14] When I was at the UBZ conference, I was working with a laptop that had Edubuntu on it and built-in wireless. Edubuntu wouldn't talk to it but I remembered to bring a PCMCIA card that I knew worked with Red Hat. Edubuntu liked that just fine. [02:19] Thanks === flora [n=ryans@156-132-165-209.gci.net] has left #edubuntu [] [02:20] For laptops at the conference, everyone was raving about the HP's. I had a Dell. === ajmitch_ had a dell also [02:20] Yeah - chances are our school district will continue with dell [02:22] I forget what the built-in wireless in that Dell was (and I don't have it now. I borrowed it from work.) But folks at UBZ bitched about it and said we needed to lobby for more open specs from whoever made the built-in. [02:26] it's installed now, sound works [02:28] I had problems yesterday with audio/video trying to get all formats to work. gxine finally seemed to be the only thing that worked with everything. [02:29] (I installed all the stuff from the RestrictedFormats wiki page, and I'm sure some of that helped.) === arkan0x [n=arkanox@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkanox@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkanox@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:36] I've noticed that gcompris uses Euros for counting money. Any idea of how or if it's possible to switch it to US Dollars? === arkan0x [n=arkanox@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:38] Not a clear idea, but I thought it was part of a series of apps that all used the same language info... [02:39] So, there may be a place outside of gcompris but "in the neighborhood" from which it gets it's settings. === arkan0x [n=arkanox@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkanox@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkanox@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkanox@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:47] yeah, because for the local setting in gcompris, it has the US flag [02:47] also can't find that schooltools program in edubuntu [02:48] SchoolTool (singular, and capitalized). It should start up when you boot Edubuntu. [02:48] Ok, let me look === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@210.213.222.18] has joined #edubuntu [02:50] I'm just saying, I can't find it in the menu system. I am assuming it is a program that you can run, like tux math? [02:51] No, both it, and moodle are web-based school/course admin tools. So, they start up as deamons and you connect to them via the web. [02:52] ok, I just saw that in the screenshot on the SchoolTool site now. [02:53] I guess the assumption is that you'll have many people entering content, and thus want it accessable to all at any time. [02:54] Theoretically, you would want SchoolTool hosted on one central server, right? Because if people are just entering it on their own localhost, nobody else can see it (like for calendars). [02:55] Right. That's the idea. (But I run a lot of "mini servers" [02:56] re [02:56] Nothing particularly special about them, if I don't expect them to be under heavy load.) === mhz_family is now known as mhz [02:57] mhz glad you're back: I've got to run in a minute but wanted to know when the Accessibilty/Special Needs meeting is/ [02:57] kjcole: tomorrow.. let me get the schedule [02:58] IIRC it will take place after edubuntu meeting which is 12 UTC [02:58] kjcole: I think one hour will be too short for a first brainstorming meeting, [02:58] which could easily overflow. I've now set the time to 14.30, which [02:58] should give the Edubuntu team enough time to wrap up and even take a [02:58] short break before joining us ;) [02:58] As I mentioned, I've written up some ideas here: [02:58] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AccessibilityTeamGoals and I beleive Daniel [02:58] intends to add his thoughts today as well. Feel free to chip in. I've [02:58] started this page: AccessibilityTeamGoals/Talk for those who might just [02:58] want to comment on the existing points. [02:58] See you all Wednesday :) [02:59] Thanks KJ..will be playing around with edubuntu for a few days and learn it. I need to run myself here, later man. === AstroKing [n=AstroKin@cpe-70-122-99-21.houston.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu [] [02:59] kjcole: sorry that paste was long but as you are leaving I thought that was faster [02:59] :) [03:01] kjcole: about laptops/ I found once, that a potential good biz alternative to MIt's is getting pieces from China or India. If all goes well, I guess they could be sold at U$270 [03:02] U$270 = 1 GHz, 256 MB ram, 10 inches, 20 - 30 GB [03:04] kjcole: I have a Fujitsu LifeBook B 2175 === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:08] Burgundavia: hi there [03:09] I will meet with Pablo (the SVG man tomorrow) === arkan0x [n=arkanox@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:12] hey mhz [03:12] arkan0x: hi [03:12] mhz: hi ! [03:12] Burgundavia: Pablo will include the very originals [03:13] excellent [03:13] he said he did it because not everybody has same fonts, so he 'traced' the texts [03:13] to avoid font confilcts [03:14] arkan0x: me aceptaron como miembro del Conclio de la Comunidad ubuntu !!!! [03:14] concilio [03:15] rlz ! [03:15] heheh [03:15] gracias [03:15] congratulations mhz ! [03:15] que bien ! [03:17] arkan0x: manana intetnare ir a la reunion del CDSL para el Install Fest [03:17] no es seguro [03:17] pero intentare [03:17] mhz: okis , por ultimo en la reunion me conecto a irc y ahi vas tirando ideas [03:17] arkan0x: will you go there [03:17] se [03:17] ah!!! rulz! [03:18] mhz: ! [03:18] arkan0x: habra espacio (aunque sea poco) para una mini charla de Ubuntu y Edubuntu? [03:18] mhz: usas algo Voip ? [03:18] Been in and out for the last several minutes, but am really leaving now. ;-) See you tomorrow... twice I think. ;-) [03:19] kjcole: i guess you have backlogs :) [03:19] mhz: osea por mi bakan , pero hay ke verlo ,pq la gente de argentina tiene "preferencia" y el asunto dura asta las 4 nu mas [03:19] or everything gets logged and pasted in url? [03:19] arkan0x: will the argentinan guys be in that meeting, too? [03:19] Konversation logs it all, and I think fabbio does too. [03:20] kjcole: okis, bye [03:21] http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-ca/2005-November/000323.html [03:21] arkan0x: en esa URL, MagicFab esta disenando un materila sobre edubuntu en espanol [03:22] material [03:23] arkan0x: http://www.flickr.com/photos/magicfab/60378589/in/photostream/ [03:23] mhz: rlz [03:24] te parece si usamos algo asi para el InstallFest? [03:24] I take care of it! [03:25] mhz: yo imprimo ! [03:25] educool! [03:29] arkan0x: I like this laptop http://www.flickr.com/photos/magicfab/57561357/ [03:29] but i prefer the Libretto :) [03:30] jejee [03:30] mhz: ke laptop es el de la foto ? [03:31] ni idea hehehe [03:31] pero rlz! [03:31] mhz: es un dell [03:32] tan chico? [03:32] http://www.tecnocimiento.cl/EdubuntuChile [03:32] como se ve? [03:33] arkan0x: aahhh, olvide contarte: Contacte a la gente de ConferencePack. Me aceptaron, pero no me han confirmado cuando llegaria a Chile. Creo que manana sabre, pero dudo que sea para esta semana :( [03:33] arkan0x: and also, I requested 200 x86 + 15 64bits + 15 PPC [03:35] para ser repartidos "al merito" en Edubuntu Chilean Tour y en Ubuntu Fest (Install Fest + HowTo Fest) === Grant__ [i=grant@85-210-168-189.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #edubuntu === Grant__ [i=grant@85-210-168-189.dsl.pipex.com] has left #edubuntu [] [03:35] mhz: y donde se piensa hacer ubuntufest-cl ? [03:36] arkan0x: Tecnocimiento lo organizara puh [03:36] :) [03:36] y ojala con tu ayuda [03:36] sipo [03:36] y la del CDLS [03:36] cdsl [03:36] mhz: pero en ke parte fisica ? [03:36] ahhhh [03:36] aun no se [03:37] si se, que la idea es que el CDSL se note mas participativo a ver si en una de esas se animan a organizarse mejor [03:38] De hecho, CDSL deberia ser un Centro de Difusion Nacional [03:38] donde otras regiones participen localmente [03:38] sep , esa era la idea inicial [03:38] pero bueno, primero debe suceder en santiago. Si en casa no funca... menos afuera [03:40] well, we'll see. === Orbman [i=grant@85-210-15-53.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #edubuntu === mhz yaaawns === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:13] mhz: !!!! [04:13] mhz: ping xD! [04:13] yup [04:13] arkan0x: vas manana al MAC? [04:13] mhz: por extranna razon , en edubuntu/con kde , me funka la vga del laptop , no la del dock [04:13] mhz: ! sep [04:14] apenas salgo de clases me voy paya [04:14] ??? [04:14] salgo alas 4 [04:14] mhz: osea el laptop funka al 100% [04:14] y antes no? [04:14] no al 98% como te dije antes [04:14] ahhh [04:14] te acuerdas ke probamos la salida vga del laptop y no funko [04:14] o sera problema de config entonces? [04:15] mmm puede ser [04:15] sip === mhz es mas feliz entonces [04:15] como ubuntu tiene buenas config [04:15] demas [04:15] te lo CAMBIO!!! === arkan0x es mas feliz aun xD! [04:15] mhz: ejjejeje [04:15] hehehe [04:15] nika! [04:15] o sika? [04:15] nIKA! [04:15] hehehe [04:15] jejeje [04:15] @#$%^&**%^#@ [04:16] lol [04:16] ta bien h [04:16] ta bien oh [04:16] pero si lo tuviera que vender , te aviso a ti primero [04:16] nha! y a cuanto? [04:16] asike no te preocupes [04:16] mhz: no sep :P [04:16] hehe [04:16] ya, demosle [04:17] arkan0x: i suggest you move that to #kubuntu [04:17] and #ubuntu [04:17] and #gnome [04:17] and #ubuntu-laptop [04:17] es muy extrano [04:17] mhz: , si ya aplike el ubuntu-database [04:17] pero , aver , deja ir pa gnome , por si las moskas [04:18] eske toy en kde pq , me funka suspender [04:20] ahhh, si. a mi tambien [04:20] pero no en Wmaker :( === mhz has no idea on ACPI stuff === arkan0x [n=arkanox@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:33] mhz, ! [04:33] mhz, pa suspender en wmaker [04:34] si? [04:34] klaptop_acpi_helper --suspend [04:34] recien probe xd === arkan0x esta feliz pq suspende en el wm ke kiera xD [04:35] mhz, y ?? [04:35] cooool [04:36] te suspendio ? [04:36] lo pruebo al tiro === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@210.213.222.18] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:56] oops [04:56] ISP failure [04:56] (i guess) [05:20] visit http://wiki.edubuntu.org/UbuntuRequestDay === arkan0x [n=arkanox@pc-133-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:28] mhz, y >? [05:28] work suspend >? [05:28] arkan0x: sip [05:28] pero eth0 guateo! [05:28] y no hubo caso que funcara [05:28] no la vuelve a levantar ? [05:29] y para no perder mas tiempo, simplemente le agreque el docking [05:29] nope, no lo hizo, ni manulamente [05:29] asi que manan lo veo de nuevo [05:29] y si le sakai el mapping hotplug del interfaces ? [05:29] yo lo tengo comentao eso [05:29] por ahora estoy terminando un laaaaargo dia sentado (desde las 09:15 AM hasta ahora) [05:30] aaa okis [05:30] arkan0x: buena idea [05:30] yapos, suerte igual con la suspendia xD [05:30] arkan0x: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/UbuntuRequestDay [05:30] byez === mhz goes to sleep too [05:32] and be back for meeting === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.240.251.151] has joined #edubuntu [06:44] I'll just stay awake for the meeting :-) === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@141.30.211.85] has joined #edubuntu === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@210.5.115.165] has joined #edubuntu === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@210.5.115.165] has joined #edubuntu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #edubuntu === \sh_away is now known as \sh === Katsumoto [n=teraflop@bbned225-210-100.dsl.hccnet.nl] has joined #edubuntu === tekNico [n=tekNico@pdpc/supporter/active/tekNico] has joined #edubuntu === weasl [n=weasl@bigstick.force9.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [11:13] Hi everybody, I'm having difficulties setting up a thin client network with Edubuntu. [11:15] After the short Edubuntu howtos, I've been following the LTSP 4.1 docs at http://www.ltsp.org/documentation/ltsp-4.1/ltsp-4.1.3-en.html . [11:16] I'm able to connect to the server launching an X session with "X -query SERVER_IP". [11:18] From within a Kubuntu installation on a laptop. [11:19] However, I have problems when booting from network, on both the laptop and another desktop. === weasl [n=weasl@bigstick.force9.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [11:21] On the laptop I get a "-vttty: unknown option" error at X server startup. [11:21] On the desktop, the remote loading of the vmlinuz and intrd.img files progresses very slowly, and eventually times out. [11:23] The https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto doc says: "the Xserver settings are autodetected". Maybe there's a problem with that, on the laptop? [11:24] Regarding the desktop, I get different behavior with two different NICs, so maybe there's some kind of hardware or Etherboot problem. === b3ar1n0 [n=b3ar@adsl-ull-50-27.44-151.net24.it] has joined #edubuntu [11:25] tekNico, if you used ltspadmin together with the breezy ltsp, your system is broken now ... [11:25] Oh, nice. :-/ [11:25] the two implementations (ltsp 4.1 and breezy ltsp) are incompatible [11:26] ltspadmin actually installed about 130MB of packages, that looked strange. [11:26] breezy ltsp does everything automatically, ltsp 4.1 needs decent setup [11:27] yes, it installs the chroot environment from tarballs from the net, instead of usins already available distribution packages like breezy ltsp does [11:27] I see. Shall I uninstall ltsp, erase /opt/ltsp contents, and reinstall ltsp? [11:27] you can try it, but i didnt see someone getting it working yet ... [11:28] Do I really have to reinstall Edubuntu on the server from scratch? :-s [11:28] you can also go on with 4.1 but nobody in here can be a big help for that ... [11:29] i'd suggest #ltsp for 4.1 questions .... [11:29]