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Riddelllooking good12:02
raphink:)12:03
raphinkI can still work on it I guess ;)12:03
raphinkhop 12:05
raphink:)12:05
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raphinkRiddell: how do you like my page now?12:21
Riddellraphink: wonderful12:22
raphinkhaha12:22
Riddellraphink: make sure your launchpad account links to it12:22
raphinkoh yeah12:22
raphinkhttps://launchpad.net/people/raphink12:22
raphinkthis is my launchpad account12:22
Riddellno hackergotchi :(12:23
raphinkyop https://launchpad.net/people/raphink :)12:25
raphinkyeah I had not seen that ;) hehe12:25
Riddell**  http://wiki.kubuntu.org/  ta da!12:25
raphinkarghhhhhhhhhh12:26
raphinkthe wiki won't keep my preferences12:26
raphinkI asked it to use the kubuntu theme, UTC+1, and the french date format12:26
raphinkbut it'll get back to the default12:27
raphink:(12:27
raphinkdoes it do it with you too Riddell ?12:27
Riddelldunno, I don't set any preferences12:27
raphinkwell how do you use the kubuntu theme ?12:28
Riddellhttp://wiki.kubuntu.org/ should pick it up automatically12:28
raphinkyes12:28
raphinkfor the mai npage12:28
raphinkbut then as soon as I get to another page12:28
raphinki get the ubuntu theme again :(12:28
raphinkunless I don't identify12:29
raphinkhttp://wiki.kubuntu.org/Raphink12:29
raphink:)12:29
raphink<raphink AT SPAMFREE raphink DOT net> doesn't work with the kubuntu theme12:29
raphinkbrb12:30
\shraphink: use your real name :)12:39
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raphink\sh_away: how do I do that?12:59
raphinkI do use my real name in the description01:00
raphinkand i'm the only raphink on the internet01:00
raphink\sh_away: is there a way to redirect pages like in wikipedia ?01:02
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raphinkRiddell: are you around?11:45
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\shhttp://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1990812:24
\shcan someone with a amd64 reproduce it`12:24
\shand it looks like it's also reported upstream: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11533912:25
raphink\sh: do you know that it's possible to advocate your own packages on REVU ?12:28
\shraphink: that shouldn't be possible12:28
raphinkyes12:28
\shplease file a bug report in revu trac12:28
raphinkI just did it to see if it worked and it does12:28
raphinkwhere do I file the bug ?12:28
\shhttp://revu.tauware.de/cgi-bin/trac.cgi12:28
raphinkok12:29
\shthx12:29
raphink\sh: http://revu.tauware.de/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/912:32
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freeflyingRiddell:ping02:56
Riddellfreeflying: yo02:57
freeflyingRiddell: I've upload it 02:59
freeflyingRiddell: dose it need anymore work?03:00
Riddellfreeflying: I'll take a look at it03:01
Riddellfreeflying: sometime today, keep reminding me if I don't get back to you03:01
jjesseRiddell: btw i love the google suggest in konq03:25
Riddellthank tvo03:25
jjessefound this for xincludes  http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/ModularDoc.html03:28
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jpatrickRiddell: ping06:46
Riddelljpatrick: yo06:46
jpatrickRiddell: how does one add a new line to debian/control?06:47
jpatrickusing '\n' ?06:47
Riddelljpatrick: with the return key :)06:47
Riddellfill blank lines with a .06:47
jpatrickRiddell: dpkg-packge complains06:48
jpatrickAh okay06:48
Riddelllook at kdelibs or any package06:48
jpat|awayokay06:48
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jpatrickRiddell: reuploaded07:29
Riddelljpatrick: URL?07:30
jpatrickhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=98707:31
Riddellok, poke me if I don't get back to you07:35
jpatrickNow it's http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=101307:35
jpatrickokay07:36
jpatrickIs RC1 in Dapper?07:45
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Riddelljpatrick: no, (and it's not going to be)07:49
jpatrickRiddell: right07:49
jpatrickRiddell: that's KDE 3.5 RC I was talking about...07:50
Riddellyes07:50
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OculusAquilaeRiddell: ping08:03
RiddellOculusAquilae: hi08:05
OculusAquilaeRiddell: you have admin-rights in the kubuntu.de forum right?08:06
OculusAquilaePlease look at this: http://www.kubuntu.de/forum/forum.php?req=thread&id=74808:06
Riddelljjesse: yes I got it, I'm subscribed to ubuntu-doc now08:06
RiddellOculusAquilae: "The requested thread does not exist or access was denied."08:07
Riddelldon't know if I do have admin rights on kubuntu.de08:07
OculusAquilaeRiddell: you have to login08:07
OculusAquilaeyes you have the rights to see it, you are admin08:08
RiddellOculusAquilae: hah, he found the 3.5 archive :)08:16
RiddellOculusAquilae: well the packages there have problems so I guess I should hide it08:16
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OculusAquilaeRiddell: so it should be in quarantine ?08:20
OculusAquilaeor do you think its ok to write that this is not ready ?08:21
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infowolfeanybody capable of responding to bug 20000?08:25
infowolfe\sh, maybe you'd like to? ;-)08:27
\shbugzilla?08:27
infowolfeeh?08:28
jpatrick\sh: I think he wants http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2000008:29
\shwell...i'm jumping between malone and bugzilla..08:29
infowolfeyah, it'd be nice to be able to actually grab the stuff i need to compile stuff on my own ;-)08:29
\shoh unmet deps08:30
infowolfei'm not sure what malone is08:30
infowolfeyah, unmet deps08:30
\shinfowolfe: yes...thats easy08:30
\shinfowolfe: u just hit the new allocator libstdc++ transition08:30
\shinfowolfe: wait a few hours or days and everything is fine in dapper again08:30
infowolfe\sh, um, i hit what?08:31
infowolfei didn't even have breezy-backports in my sources.list when i ran into that particular little gem08:31
\sha glitch in the matrix :) we're changing from old libstdc++ to new libstdc++ 08:31
\shinfowolfe: u are using dapper, right?08:31
infowolfenope08:32
\shaha08:32
infowolfebreezy, which is supposed to be stable...08:32
\shwell...08:32
infowolfeyet... i keep running into things that aren't.08:32
\shjpatrick: do u have a running breezy install? 08:32
\shgrmpf...setting up breezy chroot08:32
infowolfeand i understand QA's a pain in the ass, and not everything can be fixed immediately, but yah....08:33
jpatrick\sh: that's his bug08:33
infowolfei'll just not bring up the sore subject of breezy svn being at 1.2.008:33
jpatrickI'm on Dapper08:33
\shinfowolfe: well...help us then :)08:33
infowolfe\sh, i'm not going through your new dev process ;-)08:34
infowolfeand revu is a pita due to me using gmail primarily (and i'm in the middle of a server move, so i can't use regular email either)08:35
\shinfowolfe: but u should go through our process :)08:35
infowolfe\sh, again, too much of a pain in the rear ;-)08:35
infowolfeif it wasn't, i'd maybe be interested08:36
infowolfebut i don't even have my little test-build stuff setup yet08:36
\shinfowolfe: i'm checking your bug in pbuilder login08:36
infowolfesweet08:36
\shbut it takes time..my nc6000 is under full load08:37
\shbut08:38
\shwell08:38
\shapt-get install kdebase-dev works08:38
infowolfeyikes.08:38
\sh0 upgraded, 162 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.08:38
\shNeed to get 7532kB/69.4MB of archives.08:38
\shAfter unpacking 221MB of additional disk space will be used.08:38
infowolfedo you have kubuntu-desktop installed on that one?08:39
\shit's a clean pbuilder08:39
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infowolfewould you mind attempting kubuntu-desktop and then kdebase-dev?08:39
\shso nothing else then -base and build-essential08:39
\shsure08:39
infowolfekde-devel breaks too :-S08:39
\sh332 mb to download08:40
\shtakes 12min08:40
infowolfei've got time ;-)08:40
infowolfeit's really no rush08:40
infowolfei'm really just hoping that this isn't something that only applies to me.08:40
infowolfebtw, us.archive.ubuntu.com is up to date, right?08:40
\shdunno...i use always the master one08:42
infowolfewhich is archive?08:42
\sharchive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu08:43
infowolfesame one i just updated to.08:43
infowolfesame issue08:43
\shwhich is the same08:43
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infowolfearchive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu as source has the same issue... thats same package blocks08:47
\shok..it's installing now the kubuntu-desktop...08:55
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jdongIs dapper's amarok stable?09:01
\shjdong: not now09:01
\shjdong: i need to rebuild it09:01
jdong\sh: rebuild, as in the sources are good?09:01
\shjdong: yes09:02
\shjdong: i hope so...wait after my rebuild09:02
jdongack, looks like b-d problems anyway :-/09:02
\she.g.?09:02
jdongBuild-Depends dependency for amarok cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package libtunepimp2-dev can satisfy version requirements09:02
jdongyeah, libtunepimp2 is the only issue09:04
\shRiddell: do u think it would a good idea to send amarok-1.3.6 to the buildds via breezy updates? 1.3.1 was buggy anyways :)09:04
\shjdong: well..I think about -update09:04
jdong\sh: can't do that unless something's changed with libtunepimp2....09:04
jdongor that's sent there too09:04
\shjdong: which is a better possibilty and most likely can be discussed with mdz or kamion09:05
jdongwhy is that version constraint there?09:05
\shjdong: need to check 1.3.1 09:05
\shdunno in the moment...09:05
\shbut 1.3.1 had issues with ipod transfers09:05
jdongyeah, got a report of that09:06
jdongthen I'll leave it to you guys :)09:06
\shjdong: amarok is sometimes a bitch :)09:07
jdonglol09:07
jdongdon't really use it much....09:07
jdongiTunes clone, right?09:07
\shna...the super duper multimedia music player for kde09:08
\shi actually never saw itunes09:08
jdonglooked kinda similar at first glance09:08
jpatrickjdong: does look like it has an iTunes interface...09:09
\shinfowolfe: ok.......kubuntu-desktop installed...09:12
\shand now for kdebase-dev?09:13
infowolfekde*-dev*09:13
infowolfekde-devel kdesdk, all of those do the same thing09:13
\shinfowolfe: apt-get install kdebase-dev 09:14
\sh0 upgraded, 72 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.09:14
\shNeed to get 4222kB/18.4MB of archives.09:14
\shAfter unpacking 67.5MB of additional disk space will be used.09:14
jpatrick:s09:14
infowolfeerk.09:14
infowolfeso what do i need to remove in order to have apt figure out why it's breaking?09:15
infowolfeor are there any other steps i can use to give more debug info?09:15
\shinfowolfe: apt-get install kdesdk09:15
\sh0 upgraded, 90 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.09:15
\shNeed to get 12.6MB/27.1MB of archives.09:15
\shAfter unpacking 93.2MB of additional disk space will be used.09:15
\shinfowolfe: put the stuff on nopaste and show me your whole output09:16
infowolfehttp://rafb.net/paste/results/xtTRjT45.html09:16
jpatrickinfowolfe: do you have KDE 3.5 RC?09:16
infowolfekubuntu-desktop is showing 0.5509:17
infowolfedpkg --status kdebase Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu609:17
jpatrickhmmm09:18
infowolfeshould i be using the -rc?09:18
\shah09:18
infowolfeah?09:19
\shinfowolfe: which repositories did u enable?09:19
\shmain restricted universe multiverse?09:19
\shwell..should be...kdesdk is in universe09:19
infowolfemain, restricted, multiverse, univers in breezy + backports09:19
\shshould work09:21
infowolfei agree, it should.09:21
infowolfebut it's not working...09:21
infowolfei _attempted_ to do kde 3.5rc with the repo in the wiki, and then apt-get remove --purge `cat Packages` when i decided it was too unstable for me to mess with.09:22
\shthis can be a cause09:22
infowolfebut that shouldn't be making libartsc0-dev require a version that is older than i have currently, afaik.09:23
infowolfeshould i manually rm local Packages + cache?09:24
\shcan u paste your sources.list first on rafb?09:24
infowolfesure09:24
infowolfeooh.09:25
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infowolfe1 sec09:25
infowolfehttp://rafb.net/paste/results/YVPv2J99.html09:26
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\shwhat was the issue with the update?09:28
infowolfedidn't have universe multiverse09:28
infowolfenow _all_ lines have all 4 repos (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) and issue still exists.09:28
infowolfehttp://rafb.net/paste/results/ExEdi988.html09:29
infowolfenew one with all lines fixed09:29
\shthen delete all packages.gz and caches 09:29
\shtry update again09:29
infowolfebtw, got a path for me?09:31
infowolfei'm new to deb/ubuntu ;-)09:31
infowolfenvm09:32
\sh /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin09:32
\shand /var/lib/apt/lists/09:33
infowolfekilled 'em already09:34
infowolfestill broken09:34
\shstill kspy?09:35
infowolfeit's not kspy broken09:37
infowolfelibartsc0-dev09:37
infowolfeand it won't tell me what version of that file it's talking about :-S09:37
infowolfeah! apt-cache showpkg ;-)09:38
\shapt-cache show libartsc0-dev09:38
infowolfehttp://rafb.net/paste/results/OYunPP63.html09:39
infowolfedo our versions match?09:39
infowolfe\sh, will you be here in ~1.5hrs?09:40
infowolfegtg, bbl (1.5 hrs or so)09:41
RiddellOculusAquilae: I've moved the broken kde35 packages09:41
Riddell\sh: amarok in backports sounds like a great idea09:42
OculusAquilaeRiddell: ok, nice09:42
\shRiddell: not possible because of libtuneimp2-dev...I want to have it via updates09:42
Riddell\sh: seb said he was packaging libgpod09:42
Riddell\sh: why isn't it possible?09:43
\shRiddell: libtuneimp2-dev is not in breezy?09:43
\shwe could try to make a nice update package for breezy 09:44
OculusAquilaebye09:44
\shRiddell: because 1.3.1 has issues anyways :)09:45
Riddelltuneimp2 is replated to tunepimp?09:46
\shi think so09:47
Riddellwell backport that too09:47
Riddellbut updates only takes small patches, it don't take new upstream versions09:47
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Riddellwoo, c++ transition is go09:51
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=== Topic for #kubuntu-devel: debian merges needing done http://tinyurl.com/9cmuw | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperGoals || Make packages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KDE35Packages || http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu || Kubuntu DVD http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/breezy/release/
=== Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Wed Nov 9 23:32:51 2005
\shi'm missing libqt on the list somehow10:11
Riddell\sh: it doesn't transition apparantly10:19
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\shRiddell: are u doing the kde packages?11:19
Riddell\sh: yes11:21
Riddell\sh: arts and kdelibs are uploaded so once they're in you can start rebuilding kde universe11:21
\shhehe 11:21
Riddellkdelibs_3.5-rc2-0ubuntu1 is the version if you want to start now11:22
\shthe nc6000 is burning like hell...4 pbuilder 4 diff. packages11:22
raphinkhehe11:24
raphink:)11:24
\shah and new xterm11:25
\shgrmpf11:25
\shok...lets package new xterm11:25
\shas 5th package11:25
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Tm_Thmm, is there reason why topics in Ubuntu Forums -> Ubuntu Development -> Development Archives ->  Breezy Badger Development Release are locked ?11:48
Riddellisn't that ubuntu-devel mailing list?11:49
Tm_Tdunno11:50
Tm_Thttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6617911:50
Tm_Tmy friend (teprrr, Akregator dev) was complaining about it11:50
Riddelldunno, you'd have to ask an ubuntuforums person12:03

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