[12:02] looking good [12:03] :) [12:03] I can still work on it I guess ;) [12:05] hop [12:05] :) === rtcm_ [n=jman@81.84.150.197] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:21] Riddell: how do you like my page now? [12:22] raphink: wonderful [12:22] haha [12:22] raphink: make sure your launchpad account links to it [12:22] oh yeah [12:22] https://launchpad.net/people/raphink [12:22] this is my launchpad account [12:23] no hackergotchi :( [12:25] yop https://launchpad.net/people/raphink :) [12:25] yeah I had not seen that ;) hehe [12:25] ** http://wiki.kubuntu.org/ ta da! [12:26] arghhhhhhhhhh [12:26] the wiki won't keep my preferences [12:26] I asked it to use the kubuntu theme, UTC+1, and the french date format [12:27] but it'll get back to the default [12:27] :( [12:27] does it do it with you too Riddell ? [12:27] dunno, I don't set any preferences [12:28] well how do you use the kubuntu theme ? [12:28] http://wiki.kubuntu.org/ should pick it up automatically [12:28] yes [12:28] for the mai npage [12:28] but then as soon as I get to another page [12:28] i get the ubuntu theme again :( [12:29] unless I don't identify [12:29] http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Raphink [12:29] :) [12:29] doesn't work with the kubuntu theme [12:30] brb [12:39] <\sh> raphink: use your real name :) === hunger [n=hunger@p54A622B5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:59] \sh_away: how do I do that? [01:00] I do use my real name in the description [01:00] and i'm the only raphink on the internet [01:02] \sh_away: is there a way to redirect pages like in wikipedia ? === jubei [n=jubei@ppp231-113.lns2.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [i=user@69-87-143-251.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === spstarr_home [n=sh0n@CPEdeadbeef0000-CM000039d4cc6a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.187.64] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@65.99.187.64] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A62923.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@24-119-209-132.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A63371.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === author-psi [n=marcel@p50905C6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@rrba-146-96-186.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@rrba-146-96-186.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@rrba-146-96-186.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A61BC4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:45] Riddell: are you around? === Tm_T [i=tm_travo@ip212-226-140-97.adsl.kpnqwest.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:24] <\sh> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19908 [12:24] <\sh> can someone with a amd64 reproduce it` [12:25] <\sh> and it looks like it's also reported upstream: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115339 [12:28] \sh: do you know that it's possible to advocate your own packages on REVU ? [12:28] <\sh> raphink: that shouldn't be possible [12:28] yes [12:28] <\sh> please file a bug report in revu trac [12:28] I just did it to see if it worked and it does [12:28] where do I file the bug ? [12:28] <\sh> http://revu.tauware.de/cgi-bin/trac.cgi [12:29] ok [12:29] <\sh> thx [12:32] \sh: http://revu.tauware.de/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/9 === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rtcm [n=jman@81.84.150.197] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=freeflyi@61.190.65.38] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:56] Riddell:ping [02:57] freeflying: yo [02:59] Riddell: I've upload it [03:00] Riddell: dose it need anymore work? [03:01] freeflying: I'll take a look at it [03:01] freeflying: sometime today, keep reminding me if I don't get back to you [03:25] Riddell: btw i love the google suggest in konq [03:25] thank tvo [03:28] found this for xincludes http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/ModularDoc.html === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D411D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rtcm_ [n=jman@81.84.150.197] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL_ [n=KaiL@p548F49A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jansen [n=jan@ip219-169-58-81.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jansen [n=jan@ip219-169-58-81.adsl.versatel.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === author-psi [n=marcel@p50905C6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rtcm_ is now known as rtcm === hunger_ [n=hunger@p54A614FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_ is now known as hunger === jpatrick [n=patrick@62.Red-81-38-206.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:46] Riddell: ping [06:46] jpatrick: yo [06:47] Riddell: how does one add a new line to debian/control? [06:47] using '\n' ? [06:47] jpatrick: with the return key :) [06:47] fill blank lines with a . [06:48] Riddell: dpkg-packge complains [06:48] Ah okay [06:48] look at kdelibs or any package [06:48] okay === \sh [n=nnsh@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === insanekane [n=kane@202.83.32.207] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:29] Riddell: reuploaded [07:30] jpatrick: URL? [07:31] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=987 [07:35] ok, poke me if I don't get back to you [07:35] Now it's http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1013 [07:36] okay [07:45] Is RC1 in Dapper? === unstableabel [n=kane@202.83.32.207] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:49] jpatrick: no, (and it's not going to be) [07:49] Riddell: right [07:50] Riddell: that's KDE 3.5 RC I was talking about... [07:50] yes === jjesse [i=user@69-87-143-135.async.iserv.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:03] Riddell: ping [08:05] OculusAquilae: hi [08:06] Riddell: you have admin-rights in the kubuntu.de forum right? [08:06] Please look at this: http://www.kubuntu.de/forum/forum.php?req=thread&id=748 [08:06] jjesse: yes I got it, I'm subscribed to ubuntu-doc now [08:07] OculusAquilae: "The requested thread does not exist or access was denied." [08:07] don't know if I do have admin rights on kubuntu.de [08:07] Riddell: you have to login [08:08] yes you have the rights to see it, you are admin [08:16] OculusAquilae: hah, he found the 3.5 archive :) [08:16] OculusAquilae: well the packages there have problems so I guess I should hide it === raphink [n=raphink@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:20] Riddell: so it should be in quarantine ? [08:21] or do you think its ok to write that this is not ready ? === infowolfe [n=infowolf@unaffiliated/infowolfe] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:25] anybody capable of responding to bug 20000? [08:27] \sh, maybe you'd like to? ;-) [08:27] <\sh> bugzilla? [08:28] eh? [08:29] \sh: I think he wants http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20000 [08:29] <\sh> well...i'm jumping between malone and bugzilla.. [08:29] yah, it'd be nice to be able to actually grab the stuff i need to compile stuff on my own ;-) [08:30] <\sh> oh unmet deps [08:30] i'm not sure what malone is [08:30] yah, unmet deps [08:30] <\sh> infowolfe: yes...thats easy [08:30] <\sh> infowolfe: u just hit the new allocator libstdc++ transition [08:30] <\sh> infowolfe: wait a few hours or days and everything is fine in dapper again [08:31] \sh, um, i hit what? [08:31] i didn't even have breezy-backports in my sources.list when i ran into that particular little gem [08:31] <\sh> a glitch in the matrix :) we're changing from old libstdc++ to new libstdc++ [08:31] <\sh> infowolfe: u are using dapper, right? [08:32] nope [08:32] <\sh> aha [08:32] breezy, which is supposed to be stable... [08:32] <\sh> well... [08:32] yet... i keep running into things that aren't. [08:32] <\sh> jpatrick: do u have a running breezy install? [08:32] <\sh> grmpf...setting up breezy chroot [08:33] and i understand QA's a pain in the ass, and not everything can be fixed immediately, but yah.... [08:33] \sh: that's his bug [08:33] i'll just not bring up the sore subject of breezy svn being at 1.2.0 [08:33] I'm on Dapper [08:33] <\sh> infowolfe: well...help us then :) [08:34] \sh, i'm not going through your new dev process ;-) [08:35] and revu is a pita due to me using gmail primarily (and i'm in the middle of a server move, so i can't use regular email either) [08:35] <\sh> infowolfe: but u should go through our process :) [08:35] \sh, again, too much of a pain in the rear ;-) [08:36] if it wasn't, i'd maybe be interested [08:36] but i don't even have my little test-build stuff setup yet [08:36] <\sh> infowolfe: i'm checking your bug in pbuilder login [08:36] sweet [08:37] <\sh> but it takes time..my nc6000 is under full load [08:38] <\sh> but [08:38] <\sh> well [08:38] <\sh> apt-get install kdebase-dev works [08:38] yikes. [08:38] <\sh> 0 upgraded, 162 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [08:38] <\sh> Need to get 7532kB/69.4MB of archives. [08:38] <\sh> After unpacking 221MB of additional disk space will be used. [08:39] do you have kubuntu-desktop installed on that one? [08:39] <\sh> it's a clean pbuilder === raphink [n=raphink@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:39] would you mind attempting kubuntu-desktop and then kdebase-dev? [08:39] <\sh> so nothing else then -base and build-essential [08:39] <\sh> sure [08:39] kde-devel breaks too :-S [08:40] <\sh> 332 mb to download [08:40] <\sh> takes 12min [08:40] i've got time ;-) [08:40] it's really no rush [08:40] i'm really just hoping that this isn't something that only applies to me. [08:40] btw, us.archive.ubuntu.com is up to date, right? [08:42] <\sh> dunno...i use always the master one [08:42] which is archive? [08:43] <\sh> archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [08:43] same one i just updated to. [08:43] same issue [08:43] <\sh> which is the same === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D411D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D411D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D411D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:47] archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu as source has the same issue... thats same package blocks [08:55] <\sh> ok..it's installing now the kubuntu-desktop... === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:01] Is dapper's amarok stable? [09:01] <\sh> jdong: not now [09:01] <\sh> jdong: i need to rebuild it [09:01] \sh: rebuild, as in the sources are good? [09:02] <\sh> jdong: yes [09:02] <\sh> jdong: i hope so...wait after my rebuild [09:02] ack, looks like b-d problems anyway :-/ [09:02] <\sh> e.g.? [09:02] Build-Depends dependency for amarok cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package libtunepimp2-dev can satisfy version requirements [09:04] yeah, libtunepimp2 is the only issue [09:04] <\sh> Riddell: do u think it would a good idea to send amarok-1.3.6 to the buildds via breezy updates? 1.3.1 was buggy anyways :) [09:04] <\sh> jdong: well..I think about -update [09:04] \sh: can't do that unless something's changed with libtunepimp2.... [09:04] or that's sent there too [09:05] <\sh> jdong: which is a better possibilty and most likely can be discussed with mdz or kamion [09:05] why is that version constraint there? [09:05] <\sh> jdong: need to check 1.3.1 [09:05] <\sh> dunno in the moment... [09:05] <\sh> but 1.3.1 had issues with ipod transfers [09:06] yeah, got a report of that [09:06] then I'll leave it to you guys :) [09:07] <\sh> jdong: amarok is sometimes a bitch :) [09:07] lol [09:07] don't really use it much.... [09:07] iTunes clone, right? [09:08] <\sh> na...the super duper multimedia music player for kde [09:08] <\sh> i actually never saw itunes [09:08] looked kinda similar at first glance [09:09] jdong: does look like it has an iTunes interface... [09:12] <\sh> infowolfe: ok.......kubuntu-desktop installed... [09:13] <\sh> and now for kdebase-dev? [09:13] kde*-dev* [09:13] kde-devel kdesdk, all of those do the same thing [09:14] <\sh> infowolfe: apt-get install kdebase-dev [09:14] <\sh> 0 upgraded, 72 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [09:14] <\sh> Need to get 4222kB/18.4MB of archives. [09:14] <\sh> After unpacking 67.5MB of additional disk space will be used. [09:14] :s [09:14] erk. [09:15] so what do i need to remove in order to have apt figure out why it's breaking? [09:15] or are there any other steps i can use to give more debug info? [09:15] <\sh> infowolfe: apt-get install kdesdk [09:15] <\sh> 0 upgraded, 90 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [09:15] <\sh> Need to get 12.6MB/27.1MB of archives. [09:15] <\sh> After unpacking 93.2MB of additional disk space will be used. [09:16] <\sh> infowolfe: put the stuff on nopaste and show me your whole output [09:16] http://rafb.net/paste/results/xtTRjT45.html [09:16] infowolfe: do you have KDE 3.5 RC? [09:17] kubuntu-desktop is showing 0.55 [09:17] dpkg --status kdebase Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu6 [09:18] hmmm [09:18] should i be using the -rc? [09:18] <\sh> ah [09:19] ah? [09:19] <\sh> infowolfe: which repositories did u enable? [09:19] <\sh> main restricted universe multiverse? [09:19] <\sh> well..should be...kdesdk is in universe [09:19] main, restricted, multiverse, univers in breezy + backports [09:21] <\sh> should work [09:21] i agree, it should. [09:21] but it's not working... [09:22] i _attempted_ to do kde 3.5rc with the repo in the wiki, and then apt-get remove --purge `cat Packages` when i decided it was too unstable for me to mess with. [09:22] <\sh> this can be a cause [09:23] but that shouldn't be making libartsc0-dev require a version that is older than i have currently, afaik. [09:24] should i manually rm local Packages + cache? [09:24] <\sh> can u paste your sources.list first on rafb? [09:24] sure [09:25] ooh. === infowolfe notices an issue with updates. [09:25] 1 sec [09:26] http://rafb.net/paste/results/YVPv2J99.html === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:28] <\sh> what was the issue with the update? [09:28] didn't have universe multiverse [09:28] now _all_ lines have all 4 repos (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) and issue still exists. [09:29] http://rafb.net/paste/results/ExEdi988.html [09:29] new one with all lines fixed [09:29] <\sh> then delete all packages.gz and caches [09:29] <\sh> try update again [09:31] btw, got a path for me? [09:31] i'm new to deb/ubuntu ;-) [09:32] nvm [09:32] <\sh> /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin [09:33] <\sh> and /var/lib/apt/lists/ [09:34] killed 'em already [09:34] still broken [09:35] <\sh> still kspy? [09:37] it's not kspy broken [09:37] libartsc0-dev [09:37] and it won't tell me what version of that file it's talking about :-S [09:38] ah! apt-cache showpkg ;-) [09:38] <\sh> apt-cache show libartsc0-dev [09:39] http://rafb.net/paste/results/OYunPP63.html [09:39] do our versions match? [09:40] \sh, will you be here in ~1.5hrs? [09:41] gtg, bbl (1.5 hrs or so) [09:41] OculusAquilae: I've moved the broken kde35 packages [09:42] \sh: amarok in backports sounds like a great idea [09:42] Riddell: ok, nice [09:42] <\sh> Riddell: not possible because of libtuneimp2-dev...I want to have it via updates [09:42] \sh: seb said he was packaging libgpod [09:43] \sh: why isn't it possible? [09:43] <\sh> Riddell: libtuneimp2-dev is not in breezy? [09:44] <\sh> we could try to make a nice update package for breezy [09:44] bye [09:45] <\sh> Riddell: because 1.3.1 has issues anyways :) [09:46] tuneimp2 is replated to tunepimp? [09:47] <\sh> i think so [09:47] well backport that too [09:47] but updates only takes small patches, it don't take new upstream versions === moustachu [n=dav@ACBADCDE.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:51] woo, c++ transition is go === ubuntulog [n=ubuntulo@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: debian merges needing done http://tinyurl.com/9cmuw | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperGoals || Make packages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KDE35Packages || http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu || Kubuntu DVD http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/breezy/release/ === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Wed Nov 9 23:32:51 2005 [10:11] <\sh> i'm missing libqt on the list somehow [10:19] \sh: it doesn't transition apparantly === raphink [n=raphink@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:19] <\sh> Riddell: are u doing the kde packages? [11:21] \sh: yes [11:21] \sh: arts and kdelibs are uploaded so once they're in you can start rebuilding kde universe [11:21] <\sh> hehe [11:22] kdelibs_3.5-rc2-0ubuntu1 is the version if you want to start now [11:22] <\sh> the nc6000 is burning like hell...4 pbuilder 4 diff. packages [11:24] hehe [11:24] :) [11:25] <\sh> ah and new xterm [11:25] <\sh> grmpf [11:25] <\sh> ok...lets package new xterm [11:25] <\sh> as 5th package === raphink [n=raphink@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:48] hmm, is there reason why topics in Ubuntu Forums -> Ubuntu Development -> Development Archives -> Breezy Badger Development Release are locked ? [11:49] isn't that ubuntu-devel mailing list? [11:50] dunno [11:50] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66179 [11:50] my friend (teprrr, Akregator dev) was complaining about it [12:03] dunno, you'd have to ask an ubuntuforums person